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Hi russ

07h42m ago Russel Brooks wrote:

> I was hoping I'd find a way to start up that 'other Quicken'
> with a single keystroke like I can with the original one. Having
> to go thru menus to select which account files to use could be a
> real bother if I expect to make several updates a day in both of
> them.

What about a system macro? Fn-F1 starts Quicken1, Fn-F2 starts
Quicken2. Or use Fn-F4 and Fn-F5 (F4 is directly above the Quicken
key).

They would start the same Quicken, then do something like
"menu/file/open/filename1" and "medu/file/open/filename2". That's all.
Oh maybe they should begin with "menu/exit" so you can call one quicken
from the other. Well, then menu items above are only guessed, I don't
know Quicken's menu structure.

GTX
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Russel Brooks wrote:
> I was hoping I'd find a way to start up that 'other Quicken'
> with a single keystroke like I can with the original one.

Done that, found no T-shirt. The path to your data is always stored in
C:\Quicken\QHP.CFG, wherever they themselves may be kept. So the
solution is two batches

delete qhp.cfg
copy second.cfg qhp cfg

and vice versa to be run before starting quicken. This should be easy
with two makros.

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Wee-Meng Lee wrote:
> What about recording a macro to do that?

Oh the shame...  You mean I have to finally admit I've never set
up a macro and don't know how?  Now where did I leave my 200LX
manual...

Cheers... Russ

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On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Barry wrote:

> I think int 9 is mapped to IRQ 1.

I just checked from a DOSREF34 found on the net, and my memory served me
right. IRQ0 is the timer interrupt, IRQ1 is the keyboard one, and IRQ2 is
redirected to the second 8259 chip on AT machines. On that case, an IRQ9
is generated whenever an IRQ2 is requested.

IRQ0 (as seen coming to the CPU) is translated to int 8h, and IRQ1 to int
9h.

You think well. ;)

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This has probably been on here before but I would like to know if there is a
telephone on the market current with which I could use IR connection to send
my e-mails from an HPLX200?

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Daniel Turner wrote:

> When pressing CTRL + ALT + ESC on either a 100lx ROM 1.06a OR a 200lx ROM
> 1.01a I get the following message in the upper left corner:
>
> ATS Install error: No Ports
>
> Does anyone know what this means?

   A guess is a factory "Automatic Testing System" that uses
a special hardware setup.

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Gijs Leegwater wrote:

> Last days i'm trying to make some ASM programs on the 200lx. I read the
> 200lx is XT-compatible. Now I want to make my own interrupt 9 handling
> routine. But I don't know well how to do that. I read on the net that XT
> keyboards are incompatible with AT ones. But why do all cga games work on
> both AT desktop and 200lx? Does the IHR support both standards? And where on
> the net can i find an exact specification of the XT standard(port 60/64 info
> etc). If I'll make some IHR on the 200lx which uses XT standards won't it
> work on my desktop then? Is there some way to determine keybaord type? Has
> theLX got a 101-key-like-keyboard?

   As Barry wrote; the 200LX keyboard is pretty much an AT
keyboard if you are using the BIOS interface.  The INT 9
and INT 16 are software interrupts, not the hardware IRQ's.
Look on S.U.P.E.R. for a developer's guide for the 200LX
specific differences from the standard XT/AT keyboard
handling.  There is also a 200LX list of scan codes.

   I wrote a keyboard interrupt handler for a 200LX
specific game that I was writing at one time.  I used the
code from a mix of assembler books.  All of which were
quite similar.  But, this was to access the keystokes in a
timely manner, not to access the hardware directly.  If
that was what you want, about half of the MS-DOS assembly
language books will discuss the subject.  Look for pop-up
TSR programming.  You should find code on Simtel, S.U.P.E.R.,
or the like.

   For no real reason, the drawing program that I am Alpha/
Beta testing with some list members uses the AT keyboard
BIOS functions.  So if you are not looking at the hardware
level, you can treat the 200LX mostly as an AT.

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From: "Nathalie Bugeaud" <planetary@FREE.FR>
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Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 9:10 PM
Subject: clanky space-bar


> hi (i'm 'still' here - sigh from some, smile from others)

I always smile to a woman ;)
(si elle m'emb=EAte pas...)

>
> tell me, is it my fault if i didn't hit the spacebar on center and now
have
> both sides making a cranky/clanky sound as if it was broken. i can only
get
> it responding in the middle. can it be fixed?

if you can find a new spacebar, I think you can. But this is a more commo=
n
problem so I think new (actually, used) spacebars are rare, for they have=
 to
come from another lx.. and I think there is no one here who want's so
sacrifice a working lx for a spacebar (quite useless, too, because then t=
he
other lx has a broke spacebar...) so you have to look out for a dead lx.
Probbably thadeus can help you out
(do I hear someone calling for Hal? ;))

>
> now, wasn't this OT ?!?

Actually, I do not think this is an OT message...

>
> Dr.Nat
>
> (written on LX200 and serial-cabled to PC for upload to free.fr server)

must have been quite hard with that spacebar you've got :(

>
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Hi Malcolm

01h24m ago Malcolm Shewan wrote:

> This has probably been on here before but I would like to know if there is a
> telephone on the market current with which I could use IR connection to send
> my e-mails from an HPLX200?
>

There are many.
But what you need in order to send email using IR (IrDA) is WWW/LX and
Post/LX.
Please read http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx
This explains a lot of details about that topic.

GTX
daniel

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On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Niels wrote:

> if you can find a new spacebar, I think you can. But this is a more
> common problem so I think new (actually, used) spacebars are rare, for
> they have to come from another lx.. and I think there is no one here
> who want's so sacrifice a working lx for a spacebar (quite useless,
> too, because then the other lx has a broke spacebar...)

A new spacebar won't help -- as Theodore pointed out, even superglue won't
hold the space bar in very well.  What is actually needed is an entire
keyboard assembly, which, of course, involves finding a dead LX to use, or
sending your 200LX to Thaddeus and paying the $125 fee.

I'd still probably try superglue first, though, just in case it happens to
work well enough to be usable.

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http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx/

and

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ir_dev/

and

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/emi/

maybe even more but can't think of it now
also try the list archives, I remember a recent discussion about this
nokias tend to work if I'm correct, check at Daniels' pages mentioned above


Niels

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Subject: IR Telephone


> This has probably been on here before but I would like to know if there is
a
> telephone on the market current with which I could use IR connection to
send
> my e-mails from an HPLX200?
>
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I would use a plastic solvent rather than superglue. In the US, several
types are Tenax 7R, Plastruct Bondene, and Testor's solvent cement -- ask at
a good hobby/model shop for some (whatever brand is sold in your country).
You use a minimal drop of these solvents to melt the plastic, allowing it to
flow together and "weld" together. Superglue forms a layer of a different
material between the plastic surfaces, and is more likely to come apart than
a good solvent weld.

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On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Niels wrote:

> if you can find a new spacebar, I think you can. But this is a more
> common problem so I think new (actually, used) spacebars are rare, for
> they have to come from another lx.. and I think there is no one here
> who want's so sacrifice a working lx for a spacebar (quite useless,
> too, because then the other lx has a broke spacebar...)

A new spacebar won't help -- as Theodore pointed out, even superglue won't
hold the space bar in very well.  What is actually needed is an entire
keyboard assembly, which, of course, involves finding a dead LX to use, or
sending your 200LX to Thaddeus and paying the $125 fee.

I'd still probably try superglue first, though, just in case it happens to
work well enough to be usable.

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On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Axel Berger wrote:
> Russel Brooks wrote:
> > I was hoping I'd find a way to start up that 'other Quicken'
> > with a single keystroke like I can with the original one.
>
> Done that, found no T-shirt. The path to your data is always stored in
> C:\Quicken\QHP.CFG, wherever they themselves may be kept. So the
> solution is two batches
>
> delete qhp.cfg
> copy second.cfg qhp cfg
>
> and vice versa to be run before starting quicken. This should be easy
> with two makros.

You could save the macros and start quicken with one keypress by
the following.

Create your first quicken file, then exit and rename the above
qhp.cfg file (e.g. qone.cfg). Create the second quicken file and
rename the new qhp.cfg file (qtwo.cfg).

Then in program manager, add an icon for qone which runs a batch
file like:

copy c:\quicken\qone.cfg c:\quicken\qhp.cfg
ks \^

Add another icon for qtwo which runs a batch for qtwo.cfg. ks is
the 200lx version of keystuff. Make sure you have an upside-down
question mark in the comment field to suppress the returning
from dos prompt and you will have one keypress access to the two
files.

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700lx ROM 1.06b
same thing

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Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: ATS Install error: No Ports


> Daniel Turner wrote:
>
> > When pressing CTRL + ALT + ESC on either a 100lx ROM 1.06a OR a 200lx
ROM
> > 1.01a I get the following message in the upper left corner:
> >
> > ATS Install error: No Ports
> >
> > Does anyone know what this means?
>
>    A guess is a factory "Automatic Testing System" that uses
> a special hardware setup.
>
> Steve
>
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On Friday, 27.09.2002 at 20:28 AST, Victor Roberts <Robertsv@EARTHLINK.NET>
wrote:
> I have traveled by air about 20 times since 9/11/2001 and
> hundreds of times before
> that. The only post 9/11 change in the US is that all laptops
> have to be taken out of your
> computer bag and sent through the x-ray by themselves. Most
> airports have plastic
> trays for your laptop so they don't ride directly on the
> rubber belt, however, the quality of
> these bins varies greatly from airport to airport. The only
> "problem" is that some over
> eager security personnel try to have you remove the laptop
> well before you reach the x-
> ray machine, which increases the chance that you may drop and
> damage it. As long as
> you do not hold up the line, you can usually indicate that
> you know about the rule and
> then wait until you are at the table near the x-ray machine
> before removing your laptop.
>
> I just leave my LX in my computer bag and no one has ever
> asked that it be removed.
>
> I have no experience with non-US airports since 9./11.
>
> I have traveled by air with portable computers since they
> were first introduced and have
> always sent all my electronics through the x-ray machine. I
> have _never_ lost even one
> bit of data. I don't know how people can claim that x-ray
> machines damage computers.
>
I'm currently in the US and the flight from Stuttgart to Atlanta
was a new experience. I was flying Delta, my favorite airline :^)
Even before 9/11, they were infamous for their lengthy and
troublesome check-in procedures. Now, they've added another
dimension: all laptop computers had to be taken out of the
computer bags and were taken to a station where they were
examined with one of these large bomb sniffer devices.

Also, all hand luggage was not only X-rayed but also searched
and we had to remove our shoes which were also X-rayed.
I had to explain that my HP 200 LX was a handheld computer
and had to switch it on. I had a little APS camera in my hand
luggage (cameras use to get stolen from checked luggage)
which I also had to turn on.

On flights within the US, my experience is the same as yours:
laptops are X-rayed separately and nobody cares about the LX.

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On Friday, 27.09.2002 at 20:31 AST, Victor Roberts <Robertsv@EARTHLINK.NET>
wrote:
> On 27 Sep 2002 at 19:12, Larry Tachna wrote:
>
> > the LX gets ignored, laptops have to go through the xray
> machine alone
> > sometimes they make you turn it on too but not often,
> mostly in canada they
> > seemed to want to xray it and turn it on
>
> Turn it on and wait for Windows to boot????  Do they have
> that much patience?  If you
> don't finish the boot then Windows will run Scandisk at the
> next startup.
>
On airport security checks, noone has ever required me to boot Windows
on my laptop. It has always been sufficient to see the ThinkPad splash
screen
come up. I can switch it off again before Windows actually boots and forces
a Scandisk run when interrupted.

In the HP 200 LX case, having the Application Manager's Startup Screen
displayed was sufficient.

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Date:         Tue, 1 Oct 2002 22:29:47 +0800
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Hi There!

I am looking for a very small mouse to use with my 200LX. I saw one
small USB mouse, which comes with an USB- PS/2 adapter. So if I add a
PS/2- 9-pin Serial adapter- would it work?? Anyone tried?

I just want an ordinary conventional "roll-on-the-table" mouse- but
small. And there are plenty of those, but with USB connector. So can
use or not?

THANKS,

Jorgen

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On marktplaats.nl someone is selling a Hp Omnigo 700lx communicator plus for
?75. What the 'plus' means, I don't know. Also he claims it's new.

here is the link:

http://www.marktplaats.nl/printbody.php3?g=foto&u=diversen&gz=alle&uz=alle&I
D=4576&tr=omnigo~&tk=alle&pr=alle&bo=e&wp=

the site is in Dutch, but you can click a link to send him an email, it's
quite straigt forward.


Niels

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On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> I am looking for a very small mouse to use with my 200LX. I saw one
> small USB mouse, which comes with an USB- PS/2 adapter. So if I add a
> PS/2- 9-pin Serial adapter- would it work?? Anyone tried?

You'll have an USB mouse with a USB<->PS/2<->serial adapter? ;)

It might work if your mouse does also know the serial mouse protocol. Your
second adapter (the PS/2 to serial one) is only a cabling adapter, but the
PS/2 protocol is different from the serial one. Some mice can work with,
some can't.

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> On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Barry wrote:
>
> > I think int 9 is mapped to IRQ 1.
>
> I just checked from a DOSREF34 found on the net, and my memory
served me
> right. IRQ0 is the timer interrupt, IRQ1 is the keyboard one, and
IRQ2 is
> redirected to the second 8259 chip on AT machines. On that case,
an IRQ9
> is generated whenever an IRQ2 is requested.
>
> IRQ0 (as seen coming to the CPU) is translated to int 8h, and
IRQ1 to int
> 9h.

Thanks.m  That's a bunch more than I remembered.  What is DOSREF34?

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On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Barry wrote:

> Thanks.m  That's a bunch more than I remembered.  What is DOSREF34?

DOS Technical Reference Manual. A source of informations like the Ralf
Brown Interrupt List, maybe a little less complete on the interrupt list,
but with other things. It's distributed as shareware. Since I paid for it,
I use it <g>.

I don't think it is sold anymore, it seems the update of this source has
stopped. I bought the 3.4 version more than 8 years ago, and it seems it
is still the latest version.

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> On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Barry wrote:
>
> > Thanks.m  That's a bunch more than I remembered.  What is
DOSREF34?
>
> DOS Technical Reference Manual. A source of informations like the
Ralf
> Brown Interrupt List, maybe a little less complete on the
interrupt list,
> but with other things. It's distributed as shareware. Since I
paid for it,
> I use it <g>.
>
> I don't think it is sold anymore, it seems the update of this
source has
> stopped. I bought the 3.4 version more than 8 years ago, and it
seems it
> is still the latest version.

Thanks for the info.  I just found it in a google search.  The
shareware version is unfortunately incomplete.  Still, it has a lot
of good information.

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Hello all,

"FT8U232AM is a cost-effective single chip USB UART ( U-UART ) solution for
transferring serial data
over USB. With data transfer rates of up to 920k baud ( RS232 ) and 2,000 k baud
( RS422 / RS485 ) , the
FT8U232AM significantly raises the performance level above that above that of
traditional ISA and PCI based
UART solutions whilst offering true plug and play and easy interfacing through
it's USB interface.

Its flexible architecture allows this IC to be used in many different
application areas - USB modems,
Legacy RS232 UU USB Converter cables, USB interface cables for PDA's , Bar Code
Scanners , RS422 data links
and instrumentation - in fact almost any equipment that previously used a slow
RS232 link for communication.

Virtual COM port drivers are available for the FT8U232AM for Windows '98,
Windows 98 SE and Windows
2000. Drivers for other operating systems are currently under development."
<http://www.ftdichip.com>

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Michael Kopplin wrote:
> copy c:\quicken\qone.cfg c:\quicken\qhp.cfg
> ks \^

Yes, that was my first thought, but I did (and do) not know how to start
internal prgrams from a batch. As you do:
Could you elucidate a little?

Danke
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On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Axel Berger wrote:

> Michael Kopplin wrote:
> > copy c:\quicken\qone.cfg c:\quicken\qhp.cfg
> > ks \^
>
> Yes, that was my first thought, but I did (and do) not know how to start
> internal prgrams from a batch. As you do:
> Could you elucidate a little?

That's the part that keystuff (ks) takes care of. In the above
batch file, the appropriate cfg is copied, then ks is called
with the argument '\^' which is keystuffs code for the quicken
key, and this keypress is placed in the keyboard buffer.
When the batch file finishes, that buffered keypress starts
quicken. The docs for keystuff list the codes for all the
application keys.

This only works with the Rod Whitbys 200lx version of keystuff,
on super.

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Hi Russel,

The 200LX is a really nifty machine.  One time I too spent
US$60 to find out that it also has the HP12C functionality
built in.  I did read the manual but I didn't understand
it then :)

There are more than one way to do macro recording as
others on the list have already mentioned.  I mainly use
the built-in system manager macro recorder as I can
activate them from appointment to do repetitive stuff like
weekly backup of files and monthly update of Quicken.  I'm
no expert at Quicken and I too am trying to figure out all
those terms in there.

Create your seperate quicken data files and save the
configuration files to different filenames as mentioned
before.

To record a macro:
& M
use the arrow keys to select a free function key. eg: Fn
F4
Note the key combination to press to stop recording, Shift
Fn F4
Now put in all the keystrokes that you would use to
rename/copy the quicken config file.

eg:
Filer
F5(Goto) Quicken ENTER   - go into the directory
F5(goto) Quicken config file one   } copy config file of
set one to
F2(copy) c:\quicken\qhp.cfg ENTER  } active config file.
Quicken        - press quicken key to start quicken
program
Shift Fn F4    - stop macro recording

Pls remember to make backups as it is easy to overwrite
data files unintentionally as one is testing out the
macros.

Rgds
weemeng

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> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Multiple LX Quickens??
>
>
> Wee-Meng Lee wrote:
> > What about recording a macro to do that?
>
> Oh the shame...  You mean I have to finally
> admit I've never set
> up a macro and don't know how?  Now where did I
> leave my 200LX
> manual...
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
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Not exactly on target, but I am trying to install it on my 200lx.
About two months ago I sent out a help call to the list trying to get copies
of FrameWork IV disks.  I have a set of 5 1/4 with a couple bad disks.
Martin Ramirez offered to help by sending me a complete FW IV set copied
onto 3 1/2 disks (20 disks).  Martin's setup disk reads fine and the
installation program starts.  I select several options and when it seems
ready to start writing files to the hard drive, it stops and asks for the
setup disk to be placed in the drive.  I took my working setup 360K disk and
copied all the files to a new 720K 3 1/2 floppy. I've made sure that the
disks were named the same.  So that can't be the problem.  I got the same
results with the disk I made as I did with the one Martin made.
I now suspect that there may be some copy protection scheme in place on the
original 5 1/4 disks to keep me from installing from the copies.
I have a late copy of CopyIIPC (V 6.0 dated 1990).  I tried to use it on the
PC (Pentium Pro 200 MHz) that I have the 5 1/4 drive installed in, but it
complains that it cannot compensate for the processor speed and drops me
back at the prompt.
Any hints or tips from the collected wisdom of the list on how I can get
this program installed?
Anyone have an original set of 3 1/2 diskettes for FrameWork IV?
One step forward and one slip back.....
Later,
bob

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among recent suggestions: >..Superglue seems to work reasonably
> well for resealing the tabs to the plastic frame, but I don't know if
> anybody has tested this long-term.
>>I tried it on my original unit, it didn't last very long.

anyone tried re-assigning the "." key under wich it says "cut" as the space
bar? i am already using numlock.com to assign down keys to the numeric keys
to prevent wear and tear. The enter key seems fine because i always hit it
dead center.

another option for list members helping each other is to open a virtual
spare parts shop of unused LXs aka Swap-Shop or Spare-Parts LETS Warehouse.
A broken LX's kb may have underneath it a good mb heart etc. Best man to do
it is Daniel: reliable, resouceful, never says "no", trustworthy, and ...
domesticated :)

amities .. from Nathalie
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I was wondering if there was a way to use Goin' Postal
on my PC (with a cable modem).

My idea is to run Goin' Postal on my PC and have it
retrieve/send my email and store everything in a file
that I can move over to my 200LX (to read later).

That way, I can read/write emails on my 200lx and use
my PC to just send/receive them directly to/from my
compact flash card...and then all I need to do is grab
the card and plug it into my palmtop to again
read/respond to my mail.

Is anyone doing anything like this ? (with Goin Postal
or any other program)

It seems Goin' Postal wants to use a dial-up
connection but I have cable modem so there is no
number to dial.

Any insights (or web links) on how to use my PC to
get/send email that I can later read/respond offline
would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Questor

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On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Questor Jones wrote:

> It seems Goin' Postal wants to use a dial-up
> connection but I have cable modem so there is no
> number to dial.

I don't think you'll be able to do that, unless you find a DOS packet
driver for your cablemodem.

> Any insights (or web links) on how to use my PC to
> get/send email that I can later read/respond offline
> would be appreciated.

Have you considered using MochaPPP? If you have a free serial port, use
your HP200 cable between your PC and your HP200, install and configure
MochaPPP on your Windows machine, and reduce the dial script to nearly
nothing on the HP200 side. You'll have an IP link just like the one you
get with a modem, and your HP will be able to send/retrieve your mail, via
your PC.

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There is provision in GP to use it over ethernet with the LXEN2216 driver
using the instructions that come with it.  That might allow you to work it
through any router that does ethernet-cable, ethernet-adsl, ethernet-isdn
etc.

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On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Brown, William D wrote:

> There is provision in GP to use it over ethernet with the LXEN2216 driver
> using the instructions that come with it.  That might allow you to work it
> through any router that does ethernet-cable, ethernet-adsl, ethernet-isdn
> etc.

I haven't downloaded this LXEN2216 driver, but isn't it specific to a
PCMCIA ethernet card?

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Hi Nathalie

02h42m ago Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:

> another option for list members helping each other is to open a virtual
> spare parts shop of unused LXs aka Swap-Shop or Spare-Parts LETS Warehouse.
> A broken LX's kb may have underneath it a good mb heart etc. Best man to do

Very good idea! Someone should set up something like that!

> it is Daniel: reliable, resouceful, never says "no", trustworthy, and ...

no.
;-)

I won't start any new projects anymore, at least not in the near
future. Too busy with my diploma thesis, last few exams and the
backlight project. No chance.

> domesticated.

Grrr!

GTX
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Hi Questor

01h27m ago Questor Jones wrote:

> My idea is to run Goin' Postal on my PC and have it
> retrieve/send my email and store everything in a file
> that I can move over to my 200LX (to read later).

AFAIK, there is some packet driver for DOS boxes under Windows...
But I have no idea about how that works or where you find it.

> That way, I can read/write emails on my 200lx and use
> my PC to just send/receive them directly to/from my
> compact flash card...and then all I need to do is grab
> the card and plug it into my palmtop to again
> read/respond to my mail.

Another option could be to connect the palmtop via serial cable to the
PC, run a PPP server on the PC and thus share its internet connection
with the palmtop. I do this many times daily, you can set that up under
Windows and Linux:
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/internet_sharing

GTX
daniel

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>Very good idea! Someone should set up something like that!

If nobody started working on that right away, I could setup something...
(Any suggestions about the layout would be appreciated)
>
>> it is Daniel: reliable, resouceful, never says "no", trustworthy, and ...
>no.

Yes you are, you proved it more than once ;-)

>Too busy with my diploma thesis, last few exams and the
>backlight project. No chance.

I could start it and transfer the swap-list to you whenever you want to take over, so you all don't have to memorize another URL...

>> domesticated.

Maybe I should interview your wife ;-))

regards,
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<<I haven't downloaded this LXEN2216 driver, but isn't it specific to a
PCMCIA ethernet card?
>>

Hmm, yes I guess it is designed for a card in the LX.  I'm sure that you
could find a packet driver, but clearly GP expects certain things, I think a
packet driver vector by default at 0x62 - these are beginning to be very DOS
type things, I suspect.

I do recall other ethernet cards having packet driver 'shims' available -
years ago I tried one to use Kermit over ethernet on a desktop.  I guess it
may depend on your actual card.  I get the impression SimTel is the place to
look, or possibly this place:

http://www.danlan.com/

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I repaired a broken space key with superglue over two years ago.  It served
well for 19 months of daily use - and it still works fine - but I retired
the system to the spare parts drawer when I acquired a like-new 200LX and
transplanted the motherboard into that one.  (Well, actually, it first went
into a 100LX with a better screen, then later into this 200LX.)

So, the superglue repair can indeed be long lasting (and very inexpensive).

Alan

>From: Ian Butler [mailto:ianb@HPLX.NET]
>Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 2:58 PM
>...
>The space bar problem, also
>seen with the Enter key, is usually caused by months and years of not
>hitting the key in the center, which causes uneven wear on the two tabs
>that hold the Space and Enter keys to the plastic frame.  Eventually one
>of them breaks and the key becomes wiggly and clicks a lot.  It usually
>doesn't last very long in this condition before the second tab breaks and
>the key is at risk of falling out.  Superglue seems to work reasonably
>well for resealing the tabs to the plastic frame, but I don't know if
>anybody has tested this long-term.

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Subject:      Re: PC Connection instead of modem./ Goin Postal Question

On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Questor Jones wrote:

> Any insights (or web links) on how to use my PC to
> get/send email that I can later read/respond offline
> would be appreciated.

You don't say what OS your PC runs, but I feel compelled to point out
that the Palmtop News Reader (PNR) will read UNIX mail files.  It is
simple to transfer a copy of an inbox to a location where PNR can grab
it.  Sending e-mail would be a different matter, but should be doable
with scripting.

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Feldman, Robert writes:
> I would use a plastic solvent rather than superglue. In the US, several
> types are Tenax 7R, Plastruct Bondene, and Testor's solvent cement -- ask at
> a good hobby/model shop for some (whatever brand is sold in your country).
> You use a minimal drop of these solvents to melt the plastic, allowing it to
> flow together and "weld" together. Superglue forms a layer of a different
> material between the plastic surfaces, and is more likely to come apart than
> a good solvent weld.

This is a good idea.  I had been considering trying to weld the break
with a soldering iron, but this sounds more promising.  Does anybody
know what polymer is used for the keys?  This information would help
in selecting the most appropriate solvent.

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[n]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Theodore Heise" <theise@NETINS.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: clanky space-bar

[snip]

>
> This is a good idea.  I had been considering trying to weld the break
> with a soldering iron, but this sounds more promising.  Does anybody
> know what polymer is used for the keys?  This information would help
> in selecting the most appropriate solvent.

usually it's printed on an invisible part (I mean, invisible to the user, so
on the downside of alike), so likely there's a small logo somewhere to be
found on your keyboard.

Niels

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I received the below message from "Joe H. Smith"

I don't know what it was but our firewall caught it.

Joe-are you out there?

Joe
---------------------- Forwarded by Joseph E Buford/ES/HSC/HUGHES on
10/02/2002 10:28 AM ---------------------------


"Joe H. Smith" <hplxmail@NETINS.NET> on 10/02/2002 09:37:59 AM

To:
cc:

Subject:  Re: FTP Server:


[Filename: NEC cdrom software installation for os7.5.3_files.exe,
Content-Type: audio/x-midi]
The content of this attachment has been stripped. Attachments of this file
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Date:         Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:03:18 -0700
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Subject:      Omnibook 800 problems
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi Daniel,

I don't own an Omnibook but I had the same problem
with a Toshiba laptop. There was an option in the Bios
where you could choose the amount of energy left in
the Battery. Everytime I took out the battery the
computer would "forget" how much energy was left and
you had to manually select it in the bios.

Cheers,

Inigo

PD: You should be really careful when upgrading the
Bios in a computer!!! I wouldn't reccommend doing it
(and neither will the manufacturer) unless your
computer is working really poorly and you are almost
forced to.

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Date:         Wed, 2 Oct 2002 21:42:50 -0700
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From:         Questor Jones <questor_jones@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      200lx double-speed - How to tell?
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Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop
up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit?

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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 07:03:31 +0200
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Yes, it should has some kind of clkup driver in its config.sys.

-----Original Message-----
From: Questor Jones [mailto:questor_jones@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 6:43 AM
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: 200lx double-speed - How to tell?


Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop
up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit?

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Date:         Wed, 2 Oct 2002 22:12:06 -0700
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Subject:      Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell?
Comments: To: Vagner Martin <MVagner@ANECT.COM>
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But what if it doesn't?

Like if it is completely wiped out becuase of no
batteries.   It would still boot up I imagine, maybe
have some slight problems (display?).

But is there a diagnostic or simple way to tell on an
empty LX?


Questor



--- Vagner Martin <MVagner@ANECT.COM> wrote:
> Yes, it should has some kind of clkup driver in its
> config.sys.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Questor Jones [mailto:questor_jones@YAHOO.COM]
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 6:43 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: 200lx double-speed - How to tell?
>
>
> Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop
> up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit?
>
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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 01:09:55 -0500
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> But what if it doesn't?
>
> Like if it is completely wiped out becuase of no
> batteries.   It would still boot up I imagine, maybe
> have some slight problems (display?).
>
> But is there a diagnostic or simple way to tell on an
> empty LX?
Do the doublespeed drivers show any status messages? What happens if you try
to install the driver on a LX that ISNT a doublespeed? i.e. load the
drivers..if they load ok, great! if not..then its not a doublespeed. Or do
the drivers just let you slow some things down?

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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:10:07 +0200
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if you have a 'normal' 200lx around, try running several programs and see if
it is faster...
I know I've just kicked in an open door, but it seems no one thought of it
;)
Or I missed the fact that Questor doesn't have more than 1 lx


niels

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Questor Jones" <questor_jones@YAHOO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 6:42 AM
Subject: 200lx double-speed - How to tell?


> Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop
> up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit?
>
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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 08:37:42 +0100
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Subject:      Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell?
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Run self test (ESC-ON) and select timers.
If the timer test fails and value will be 2x higher than
shown limit you are doublespeeded:-))


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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:14:03 +0200
Reply-To:     Michel Bel <michel.bel@ZONNET.NL>
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Got it too, but I circumvented it by looking via 'webmail',
must be a virus. Anyway, I deleted it without further scrutiny. It was
a 57KB enclosure.
Michel

----- Origineel Bericht -----
Van: Joe Buford <joseph.e.buford@BOEING.COM>
Datum: Woensdag, Oktober 2, 2002 7:31 pm
Onderwerp: Re: FTP Server:

> I received the below message from "Joe H. Smith"
>
> I don't know what it was but our firewall caught it.
>
> Joe-are you out there?
>
> Joe
> ---------------------- Forwarded by Joseph E Buford/ES/HSC/HUGHES on
> 10/02/2002 10:28 AM ---------------------------
>
>
> "Joe H. Smith" <hplxmail@NETINS.NET> on 10/02/2002 09:37:59 AM
>
> To:
> cc:
>
> Subject:  Re: FTP Server:
>
>
> [Filename: NEC cdrom software installation for os7.5.3_files.exe,
> Content-Type: audio/x-midi]
> The content of this attachment has been stripped. Attachments of
> this file
> type are not allowed to enter the Boeing email system.
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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:25:57 +0100
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If you boot up a doublespeed without any drivers the screen looks a little
funny,
the left hand side shows some corruption and the whole screen might be
shifted to the right a little,
if you go into most programs they will show the same problem,
hope this helps,

regards,

Kerwin Robertson

CAD Manager

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----- Original Message -----
From: Questor Jones <questor_jones@YAHOO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: 03 October 2002 5:42 AM
Subject: 200lx double-speed - How to tell?


Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop
up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit?

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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:52:26 +0200
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[French subscribers, read that !!!]

Le Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:14:03 +0200
Michel Bel <michel.bel@ZONNET.NL> a =E9crit:

> must be a virus.=20

Yes, it is "Bubgear", a new virus which is spreading very fast since
monday.

I received the same "FTP Server" message yesterday.

Like Klez, Bubgear creates a fake "From:" field by reading the adress
book of the infected machine. But this one is a little more "funny", as
it creates a fake address by combining parts of two real ones.

Then difficult to detremine the origin of the mail.

But when you receive a message apparently originating from :
        hplxmail@NETINS.NET
(ie. the Avi's login followed by a capitalized domain name) you can be
almost sure that it originates from an hplx-l subscriber.

This is confirmed by the fact that you have received the same virus.

Now, the good part:
Even if the From address is fake, you can perhaps determine the owner of
the machine, by reading the lowest "Received" field.
For this message, I received :
    Received: from omnibook (nas-cbv-9-62-147-214-246.dial.proxad.net [62=
.147.214.246])

It means that it is originating from a machine named "omnibook"
[remember it is only an user-defined name] connected from the Free.fr
french ISP, using the Courbevoie (Paris suburbs) node.=20
I made some research in my archives, but not found the originator.
In any case, it is not Nathalie nor Erwann.

French lurkers, check your machine !

Last info, the message was sent at :
   Date: Wed,  2 Oct 2002 18:37:59 +0200 (CEST)



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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:12:31 +0100
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From:         "Svagr, Radek" <radek.svagr@INVENSYS.COM>
Subject:      virus in 200lx :-))
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2"

Yesterday had my antivirus software in 200LX Christmas;-))
I received strange e-mail with attachment so I saved it and Scan for Dos
found a
w32 Klez clone - very powefull virus in 200lx ;-)))


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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:35:02 +0200
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Questor Jones wrote:
> Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop
> up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit?

I have a 82 kB SYSINFO.EXE for that purpose amongst others. I have no
idea as to its status or age - the highest power reference in the
benchmarks is a 386/33. I see no problem in sharing it with anyone from
the list, but I suppose the status is not clear enaugh for SUPER.

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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:16:34 +0800
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Hi,

I downloaded Curtis Cameron's Outlook <=3D> HPLX Version 3.03, and that's
a great program!!! I have tested it with Outlook 2002, and over all
looks like it works great. But I have one problem:

In the appointments, the Location is never transfered over. And since
it's good to know where the meeting is. I would like to check if anyone
here experienced this problem and have some advice.

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And how about all those users with Outlook Express? I don't want to buy
Office only to use such a converter. Is there a way?

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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:45:38 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Questor

07h58m ago Questor Jones wrote:

> Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop
> up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit?

Pull out the backup battery. Behind it there is the crystal. Try if you
can read something on it. If there is a 15.xxx it is single speed, if
you can read 31.xxx, it is doublespeed.

GTX
daniel

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On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Axel Berger wrote:

> I have a 82 kB SYSINFO.EXE for that purpose amongst others. I have no
> idea as to its status or age - the highest power reference in the
> benchmarks is a 386/33. I see no problem in sharing it with anyone
> from the list, but I suppose the status is not clear enaugh for SUPER.

You could use LXSTAT, which was specifically designed for the palmtop and
has an incredible number of features.  It will report the precise clock
frequency of your LX.  Single-speed palmtops will report at around 16MHz
and double-speed palmtops at around 31MHz, although the actual speed is
half that.

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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:11:50 +0200
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On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Jacques Belin wrote:

> [French subscribers, read that !!!]

[description of the 'bugbear' effect :)]

> In any case, it is not Nathalie nor Erwann.

Yep! Since I don't use Windows to read my mail, I think I'm protected
enough ;)

To stay off-topic, I'm the victim of a new kind of spam (new for me). The
spammer is sending a lot of emails with my email address in the 'From',
'To', 'Reply-To' and 'Errors-To' fields. Of course, I receive a lot of
emails from mail servers telling me 'this mailbox doesn't exist', and a
few emails from real people asking me to remove them from my mailing
lists...

I can't do anything against it, and it's really anoying... :(

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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 08:06:53 -0500
Reply-To:     hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Avi Meshar <hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM>
Subject:      Re: FTP Server:
Comments: To: Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG>
In-Reply-To:  <20021003112520.6655.JBELIN@altern.org>
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At 10/3/02-04:52 AM, you wrote:
>[French subscribers, read that !!!]
>
>Le Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:14:03 +0200
>Michel Bel <michel.bel@ZONNET.NL> a =E9crit:
>
> > must be a virus.
>
>Yes, it is "Bubgear", a new virus which is spreading very fast since
>monday.
>
>I received the same "FTP Server" message yesterday.
>
>Like Klez, Bubgear creates a fake "From:" field by reading the adress
>book of the infected machine. But this one is a little more "funny", as
>it creates a fake address by combining parts of two real ones.
>
>Then difficult to detremine the origin of the mail.
>
>But when you receive a message apparently originating from :
>         hplxmail@NETINS.NET
>(ie. the Avi's login followed by a capitalized domain name) you can be
>almost sure that it originates from an hplx-l subscriber.

EXCEPT that my domain name is alwaysafe.com, not NETINS.NET - don't pin=20
this virus on me please! <BG>

>This is confirmed by the fact that you have received the same virus.
>
>Now, the good part:
>Even if the From address is fake, you can perhaps determine the owner of
>the machine, by reading the lowest "Received" field.
>For this message, I received :
>     Received: from omnibook (nas-cbv-9-62-147-214-246.dial.proxad.net=20
> [62.147.214.246])
>
>It means that it is originating from a machine named "omnibook"
>[remember it is only an user-defined name] connected from the Free.fr
>french ISP, using the Courbevoie (Paris suburbs) node.
>I made some research in my archives, but not found the originator.
>In any case, it is not Nathalie nor Erwann.

And it is NOT ME either, I live in Eagan, Minnesota!

I wonder if this related to some strange emails I have been receiving on my=
=20
Yahoo email address. They are all empty! I do not recall the sender's email=
=20
addresses, but it always has one of two forms:

1.  avislogin@xxxxxxx.com

where avislogin is the Yahoo mail login and xxxxx is a variety of domain=
 names.

or

2.  avislogin@xxxxx.avislogin.com or avislogin@xxxxavislogin.xxxxxx.com

very strange stuff.

I am not getting any of these in my usual mailboxes, only on Yahoo mail.

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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 08:12:14 -0500
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From:         Avi Meshar <hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM>
Subject:      Annoying Spam-Virus? [was: Re: FTP Server:]
Comments: To: Erwann ABALEA <erwann@ABALEA.COM>
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At 10/3/02-08:11 AM, Erwann ABALEA <erwann@ABALEA.COM> wrote:
>To stay off-topic, I'm the victim of a new kind of spam (new for me). The
>spammer is sending a lot of emails with my email address in the 'From',
>'To', 'Reply-To' and 'Errors-To' fields. Of course, I receive a lot of
>emails from mail servers telling me 'this mailbox doesn't exist', and a
>few emails from real people asking me to remove them from my mailing
>lists...
>
>I can't do anything against it, and it's really anoying... :(

That is very nasty. Isn't there anything in the original email these people
get - allegedly from you - that can be used to track down the source?
Wouldn't there be info in the headers of the original message that shows
who really sent it?

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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:37:32 +0200
Reply-To:     Erwann ABALEA <erwann@ABALEA.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Erwann ABALEA <erwann@ABALEA.COM>
Organization: Halfling Soft
Subject:      Re: Annoying Spam-Virus? [was: Re: FTP Server:]
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.2.20021003080905.024d19b0@mail.alwaysafe.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Avi Meshar wrote:

> At 10/3/02-08:11 AM, Erwann ABALEA <erwann@ABALEA.COM> wrote:

> >I can't do anything against it, and it's really anoying... :(
>
> That is very nasty. Isn't there anything in the original email these people
> get - allegedly from you - that can be used to track down the source?
> Wouldn't there be info in the headers of the original message that shows
> who really sent it?

Unfortunately no. They seem to have been sent from several sources. I only
have an IP address, but it keeps changing. The resolution shows several
countries involved (Italy, Taiwan, and others).

Hopefully I'm no more in vacation, and I have my ADSL line. Maybe
someone's angry against me (I've had some words with a pseudo-journalist
in France, a really mad guy).

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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:37:23 -0500
Reply-To:     Bryan Biggers <bbiggers@CHARTER.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Bryan Biggers <bbiggers@CHARTER.NET>
Subject:      Re: Annoying Spam-Virus? [was: Re: FTP Server:]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
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Isn't this sort of what the Kletz virus does? Someone you know
gets the virus, then the virus goes through their address book
and gets your name from it and forges the e-mails that it sends
out to people in the boook to appear to be from you. What you get
is a lot of mail from servers and people complaining that you
sent them a virus, but you didn't. Bryan

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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:44:46 +0200
Reply-To:     Erwann ABALEA <erwann@ABALEA.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Erwann ABALEA <erwann@ABALEA.COM>
Organization: Halfling Soft
Subject:      Re: Annoying Spam-Virus? [was: Re: FTP Server:]
In-Reply-To:  <3D9C6433.9040908@charter.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Bryan Biggers wrote:

> Isn't this sort of what the Kletz virus does? Someone you know
> gets the virus, then the virus goes through their address book
> and gets your name from it and forges the e-mails that it sends
> out to people in the boook to appear to be from you. What you get
> is a lot of mail from servers and people complaining that you
> sent them a virus, but you didn't. Bryan

It doesn't seem to be the Kletz virus, because I didn't receive any
complaint from an antivirus-equipped mailserver because a virus was found
in a mail.

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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:48:36 +0000
Reply-To:     Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm forwarding ALL my spam email to uce@ftc.gov as part of their
program to fight spam.  Since I get 50-75 spams a day doing 1 at
a time is a pain.  Is there a way to tag all the spam email and
then forward them with a single command somehow?

I'm using WWWLX v2 if it matters.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:48:34 +0000
Reply-To:     Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell?
Comments: To: Questor Jones <questor_jones@YAHOO.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Questor Jones wrote:
> Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop
> up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit?

Well it should be faster.  I just did a:  DIR D:\*.* /S
and it took about 6 seconds to scroll the ROM disk files past
on my double speed 200LX.

I assume a single speed would take longer.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:20:39 -0500
Reply-To:     Bryan Biggers <bbiggers@CHARTER.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Bryan Biggers <bbiggers@CHARTER.NET>
Subject:      Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

What does the government do with all the spam? Are they going to
save it up and send it all to Iraq or something? Does this
actually do any good? If it did, I'd like to send them some of
mine. Bryan


Russel Brooks wrote:

> I'm forwarding ALL my spam email to uce@ftc.gov as part of their
> program to fight spam.  Since I get 50-75 spams a day doing 1 at
> a time is a pain.  Is there a way to tag all the spam email and
> then forward them with a single command somehow?
>
> I'm using WWWLX v2 if it matters.
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
> DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/
>
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>
>
>

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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:12:58 -0500
Reply-To:     hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM
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From:         Avi Meshar <hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM>
Subject:      Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX?
Comments: To: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <200210032148.g93LmaT15262@mail1.uits.uconn.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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At 10/3/02-04:48 PM, you wrote:
>Is there a way to tag all the spam email and then forward them with a
>single command somehow?
>
>I'm using WWWLX v2 if it matters.

Not that I remember. Sorry.
Avi

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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:50:07 -0700
Reply-To:     Questor Jones <questor_jones@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Questor Jones <questor_jones@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      ESC-ON Diagnostics
In-Reply-To:  <200210032148.g93LmZT15257@mail1.uits.uconn.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Does anyone know of a URL/web site that describes the
ESC-ON diagnostics and what each one means?

I tried to run TEST-ALL and it seems to just wait at
the keyboard test for me to hits keys....after about 3
keys, it fails...very odd.

I just looking for something saying which tests to
run, what to expect and any special instructions.

I imagine there was probably an article in the palmtop
paper, but that would take days to weed through them
all.   I can't find anything in the index of the
manual under "Diagnostics"...

Questor.

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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:32:00 -0500
Reply-To:     hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Avi Meshar <hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM>
Subject:      Re: ESC-ON Diagnostics
Comments: To: Questor Jones <questor_jones@YAHOO.COM>
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At 10/3/02-10:50 PM, Questor Jones wrote:
>Does anyone know of a URL/web site that describes the
>ESC-ON diagnostics and what each one means?
>
>I tried to run TEST-ALL and it seems to just wait at
>the keyboard test for me to hits keys....after about 3
>keys, it fails...very odd.

If you test the keyboard, you MUST hit the keys one at a time, from top to
bottom, left to right. It EXPECTS the keys to be hit that way. If you
change the order, it gets the "wrong key" and will flag an error.

Other tests you move the highlight to and press enter repeatedly if there
is more than one test in the group.

Good luck.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 00:18:32 -0500
Reply-To:     Andrew <andrewaa@EARTHLINK.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Andrew <andrewaa@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      OT: recomendations for domain regestration?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hello
I've got a domain name coming up for renewal and I'm thinking there
might be a better choice than my current one (NSI/Verisign).
I only use it as a permanent E-mail address, I haven't even got a web
site yet.
Any recommendations?
--
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Ann Arbor Michigan
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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 08:07:58 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: FTP Server:
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi Erwann and other wvirus-annoyed people,

16h03m ago Erwann ABALEA wrote:

> To stay off-topic, I'm the victim of a new kind of spam (new for me). The
> spammer is sending a lot of emails with my email address in the 'From',
> 'To', 'Reply-To' and 'Errors-To' fields. Of course, I receive a lot of
> emails from mail servers telling me 'this mailbox doesn't exist', and a
> few emails from real people asking me to remove them from my mailing
> lists...

I think the simplest and most effective anti-virus-mechanism for
Outlook users is to not use the Outlook address book, but a plain text
file instead. a bit more copy'n'paste is needed then, but it shouldn't
be too inconvenient. Use a text editor with sorting capability and a
good search function built-in. Still more convenient than handling all
the viruses.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 08:22:37 +0200
Reply-To:     Erwann ABALEA <erwann@ABALEA.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Erwann ABALEA <erwann@ABALEA.COM>
Organization: Halfling Soft
Subject:      Re: OT: recomendations for domain regestration?
In-Reply-To:  <3D9D24A8.DAEFCF2F@earthlink.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Andrew wrote:

> I've got a domain name coming up for renewal and I'm thinking there
> might be a better choice than my current one (NSI/Verisign).
> I only use it as a permanent E-mail address, I haven't even got a web
> site yet.
> Any recommendations?

I tested Gandi, it's much cheaper, and the administration of your domain
name is done with your browser.

The point is that if something goes wrong while transferring your domain
name from NSI to Gandi, you will be email-less.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:23:39 +1200
Reply-To:     Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ>
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From:         Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX?
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--
04h57m ago Bryan Biggers wrote:

> > Is there a way to tag all the spam email and
> > then forward them with a single command somehow?
> >
> > I'm using WWWLX v2 if it matters.
> >
> > Cheers... Russ

Russ, you could tag them and do a block move to a special
folder box called say spam.i, then just attach spam.i to one
e-mail.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:00:01 +0200
Reply-To:     Niels <hp700lx@SOFTHOME.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Niels <hp700lx@SOFTHOME.NET>
Subject:      Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

11 seconds, on my (afaik) unmodified 700lx

[n]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell?


> Questor Jones wrote:
> > Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop
> > up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit?
>
> Well it should be faster.  I just did a:  DIR D:\*.* /S
> and it took about 6 seconds to scroll the ROM disk files past
> on my double speed 200LX.
>
> I assume a single speed would take longer.
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
> DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/
>
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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:09:25 +0200
Reply-To:     Niels <hp700lx@SOFTHOME.NET>
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From:         Niels <hp700lx@SOFTHOME.NET>
Subject:      Re: FTP Server:
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

or one can use a virusscanner ;)
I know mcaffee does a good job, norton probably too.

Personally I do not use a virusscanner, only if I'm not sure about some
program I downloaded somewhere... If an email contains a virus, it's usually
very easy to see... it always comes with a message the sending person would
never send you, it might even be someone you don't know... Also the email is
an executable file (.exe, .com, .bat, .pif, .cpl, .vbs, .js, .chm, .scr and
probably others). Most of the time someone sends you an executable it's an
.exe so if it's one of the others I certainly do not thrust it. Anyway I
verify with the sender first, if it's a safe file. And I scan it ;)
    If I do not thrust an email I throw it. If it was no virus and
important, the sender will resend it anyway. Just be cautious with you email
and you can use your adressbook savely in outlook.

for an instant scan go to http://housecall.antivirus.com...

Niels

[n]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Hertrich" <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: FTP Server:


> Hi Erwann and other wvirus-annoyed people,
>
> 16h03m ago Erwann ABALEA wrote:
>
> > To stay off-topic, I'm the victim of a new kind of spam (new for me).
The
> > spammer is sending a lot of emails with my email address in the 'From',
> > 'To', 'Reply-To' and 'Errors-To' fields. Of course, I receive a lot of
> > emails from mail servers telling me 'this mailbox doesn't exist', and a
> > few emails from real people asking me to remove them from my mailing
> > lists...
>
> I think the simplest and most effective anti-virus-mechanism for
> Outlook users is to not use the Outlook address book, but a plain text
> file instead. a bit more copy'n'paste is needed then, but it shouldn't
> be too inconvenient. Use a text editor with sorting capability and a
> good search function built-in. Still more convenient than handling all
> the viruses.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
> --
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>
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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:20:09 +0200
Reply-To:     Michel Bel <michel.bel@ZONNET.NL>
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From:         Michel Bel <michel.bel@ZONNET.NL>
Subject:      OT: Re: recomendations for domain regestration?
Comments: To: Andrew <andrewaa@EARTHLINK.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I use 'Godaddy' - http://www.godaddy.com , they ask USD 9 going down to USD
7  ( 10 year ) per year, and have lots of cheap mailer etc option.
_recommended_ !

Met vriendelijke groet, kind regards,
Michel Bel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew" <andrewaa@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:18 AM
Subject: OT: recomendations for domain regestration?


> Hello
> I've got a domain name coming up for renewal and I'm thinking there
> might be a better choice than my current one (NSI/Verisign).
> I only use it as a permanent E-mail address, I haven't even got a web
> site yet.
> Any recommendations?
> --
> Andrew King
> Ann Arbor Michigan
> technology is the answer, what was the question?
>
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Niels wrote:
> Just be cautious with you email
> and you can use your adressbook savely in outlook.

Agreed. I use netscape, which if not intrinsically safer is less abused
by viruses. There may be one thing though: From what I have read OE
starts and runs some things on its own and it seems to be rather
involved and difficult to disable that. On top of that it does not send
RIDs.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:52:14 +0200
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Subject:      Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell?
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On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Niels wrote:

> 11 seconds, on my (afaik) unmodified 700lx

9 seconds on my Single Speed HP200LX, with 4DOS.

> From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
> >
> > Well it should be faster.  I just did a:  DIR D:\*.* /S
> > and it took about 6 seconds to scroll the ROM disk files past
> > on my double speed 200LX.
> >
> > I assume a single speed would take longer.

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I use it too.  That is odd, I'm sure an earlier version had that problem and
Curtis fixed it.  I use Outlook 97 though.  It works very well, but you do
have to make sure if you work Outlook offline and online that you eliminate
any internal conflicts in outlook (crossed sword icons) or you get 'cannot
find form' messages and some things don't transfer.

I now use it like this:

1.      Copy .ADB file to PC card on LX.
2.      Put card in laptop, synch LX->Outlook.
3.      Clean up data in Outlook - purge old appointments, eliminate any
duplicates etc.
4.      Create new .ADB file on PC card using Outlook ->LX
5.      Put card back in LX, copy .ADB file to c:\_DAT replacing the 'live'
.ADB file.

Occasionally I use CPACK to view the .ADB file on the laptop, to be sure
what is going on.

The location fields to get truncated on the LX - and this can lead to
duplicates as when it synchs back to Outlook it sees a different
appointment.  Some folk write TC contact details in the location for
Outlook, which is way long.  But it certainly works.  My OL2LX.EXE is
internal version 3.00.0004.



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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:10:10 +0200
Reply-To:     Niels <hp700lx@SOFTHOME.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Axel Berger" <Axel-Berger@NEXGO.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: FTP Server:


> Niels wrote:
> > Just be cautious with you email
> > and you can use your adressbook savely in outlook.
>
> Agreed. I use netscape, which if not intrinsically safer is less abused
> by viruses. There may be one thing though: From what I have read OE
> starts and runs some things on its own and it seems to be rather
> involved and difficult to disable that. On top of that it does not send
> RIDs.
>

Hi Axel,

You say, that OE 'starts and runs some things on its own'.. what things do
you mean that can help virusses spread? You probably mean the
automatic-mime-type execution (or something like that?)...thus that it
automatically executes the attachment when it's mimetype is set to
audio/wav? An update fixes that, but it's been a big issue indeed.
And, what do you mean by RID's?

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 08:20:03 -0400
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From:         "Paul Anderson@Systems-Consulting" <Sales@SYSTEMS-CONSULTING.COM>
Subject:      Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell?
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5 seconds on my 200LX Double Speed



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393
web: http://Systems-Consulting.com

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:48 PM
> Subject: Re: 200lx double-speed - How to tell?
>
>
> > Questor Jones wrote:
> > > Is there anyway to tell (without opening the palmtop
> > > up) if a 200LX is a double-speed unit?
> >
> > Well it should be faster.  I just did a:  DIR D:\*.* /S
> > and it took about 6 seconds to scroll the ROM disk files past
> > on my double speed 200LX.
> >
> > I assume a single speed would take longer.
> >
> > Cheers... Russ
> >
> > DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/
> >
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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:18:18 +0200
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Hi Questor

07h43m ago Questor Jones wrote:

> I tried to run TEST-ALL and it seems to just wait at
> the keyboard test for me to hits keys....after about 3
> keys, it fails...very odd.

The number in front of the keyboard test menu item tells you which key
to press next:
101 means 1st row, 1st key (esc)., 205 means 2nd row, fifth key (MEMO)
and so on. The keyboard test wants you to press the keys from left to
right and top to bottom. It will respond to each keypress with a beep
and if you are done pressing ALL keys, it confirms "test OK" or so.

> I just looking for something saying which tests to
> run, what to expect and any special instructions.

The usual word of warinign: NEVER try the RAM card test while a Flash
card is inserted, it can make the card useless, at least corrupt the
data on it. The test is designed for SRAM cards.


GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:32:47 +0200
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Hertrich" <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: ESC-ON Diagnostics


[snip]

> The usual word of warinign: NEVER try the RAM card test while a Flash
> card is inserted, it can make the card useless, at least corrupt the
> data on it. The test is designed for SRAM cards.
>

aha! so that's the reason my card got corrupted...at first there was no
problem but later on (a few days), there was. The test told me 'card bad' or
something. Fdisk100 made it work again but everything got trashed...
(including my backup project I was working on earlier :( )
and lately I was playing again with the tests, but with another card...
filled with over 50megz..uhoh...I go backup it before it won't work anymore
like the previous one

*uhoh*

thanks for the warning! I won't do it again...
I promise!


Niels

>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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Thanks Jacques,

I actually rx 2 messages. Both are forwarded below. and both were stoped by
the firewall here at Boeing.

Avi,

I didn't think it came from you, but it gave a clue as to where the "virus"
got my email.

Joe

>Yes, it is "Bubgear", a new virus which is spreading very fast since
>monday.

>I received the same "FTP Server" message yesterday.

>book of the infected machine. But this one is a little more "funny", as
>it creates a fake address by combining parts of two real ones.


>But when you receive a message apparently originating from :
>        hplxmail@NETINS.NET
>(ie. the Avi's login followed by a capitalized domain name) you can be
>almost sure that it originates from an hplx-l subscriber.

>This is confirmed by the fact that you have received the same virus.

>Now, the good part:
>Even if the From address is fake, you can perhaps determine the owner of
>the machine, by reading the lowest "Received" field.
>For this message, I received :
>    Received: from omnibook (nas-cbv-9-62-147-214-246.dial.proxad.net [62=
>.147.214.246])

>It means that it is originating from a machine named "omnibook"
>[remember it is only an user-defined name] connected from the Free.fr
>french ISP, using the Courbevoie (Paris suburbs) node.=20
>I made some research in my archives, but not found the originator.
>In any case, it is not Nathalie nor Erwann.

>French lurkers, check your machine !

>Last info, the message was sent at :
>   Date: Wed,  2 Oct 2002 18:37:59 +0200 (CEST)



>Jacques.

---------------------- Forwarded by Joseph E Buford/ES/HSC/HUGHES on
10/04/2002 06:34 AM ---------------------------


"Joe H. Smith" <hplxmail@NETINS.NET> on 10/02/2002 09:37:59 AM

To:
cc:

Subject:  Re: FTP Server:


[Filename: NEC cdrom software installation for os7.5.3_files.exe,
Content-Type: audio/x-midi]
The content of this attachment has been stripped. Attachments of this file
type are not allowed to enter the Boeing email system.

---------------------- Forwarded by Joseph E Buford/ES/HSC/HUGHES on
10/04/2002 06:34 AM ---------------------------


"Barbara Rudie" <msoe@microsoft.com> on 10/02/2002 12:34:03 PM

To:
cc:

Subject:  Hello!


[Filename: Cornerstone Questions.txt.scr, Content-Type: audio/x-midi]
The content of this attachment has been stripped. Attachments of this file
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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:00:32 -0500
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:48 PM
Subject: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX?


> I'm forwarding ALL my spam email to uce@ftc.gov as part of their
> program to fight spam.  Since I get 50-75 spams a day doing 1 at
> a time is a pain.  Is there a way to tag all the spam email and
> then forward them with a single command somehow?

I heard on Tech TV this morning that a study has determined that
the amount of spam on the internet has increased fourfold since
this time last year.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:55:08 +0200
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download a bugbear removal tool here:
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.bugbear@mm.remov
al.tool.html

just came across it, it might be handy for some of you ;)

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:10 PM
Subject: OT: Re: Re: FTP Server:


> [n]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Axel Berger" <Axel-Berger@NEXGO.DE>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:28 AM
> Subject: Re: FTP Server:
>
>
> > Niels wrote:
> > > Just be cautious with you email
> > > and you can use your adressbook savely in outlook.
> >
> > Agreed. I use netscape, which if not intrinsically safer is less abused
> > by viruses. There may be one thing though: From what I have read OE
> > starts and runs some things on its own and it seems to be rather
> > involved and difficult to disable that. On top of that it does not send
> > RIDs.
> >
>
> Hi Axel,
>
> You say, that OE 'starts and runs some things on its own'.. what things do
> you mean that can help virusses spread? You probably mean the
> automatic-mime-type execution (or something like that?)...thus that it
> automatically executes the attachment when it's mimetype is set to
> audio/wav? An update fixes that, but it's been a big issue indeed.
> And, what do you mean by RID's?
>
> Niels
>
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>

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Off topic, but may be of interest for anyone thinking of getting a Nokia communicator. In its  Calendar application there is no place for location, so when you synch it with Outlook you NEVER get this. I'm not sure why anyone would think this was OK ;(
Suresh

-----Original Message-----
From: Jorgen Wallgren [mailto:wallgren@SINGNET.COM.SG]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:17 AM
Subject: Outlook <=> HPLX Converter


Hi,

I downloaded Curtis Cameron's Outlook <=> HPLX Version 3.03, and that's
a great program!!! I have tested it with Outlook 2002, and over all
looks like it works great. But I have one problem:
<SNIP>

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NEVER get this. I'm not sure why anyone would think this was OK =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Suresh</FONT>
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HREF=3D"mailto:wallgren@SINGNET.COM.SG">mailto:wallgren@SINGNET.COM.SG</=
A>]</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hi,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I downloaded Curtis Cameron's Outlook &lt;=3D&gt; =
HPLX Version 3.03, and that's</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>a great program!!! I have tested it with Outlook =
2002, and over all</FONT>
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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:25:36 +0200
Reply-To:     Feher Tamas <feher.tamas@2fkft.com>
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From:         Feher Tamas <feher.tamas@2FKFT.COM>
Subject:      Non-pcmcia ethernet for the 200LX.
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Hello,

I have been thinking about ethernet for the 200LX masses, e.g. the people
without 32+ MB internal RAM, who cannot sacrifice the PCMCIA slot. It means the
LX serial port could be used. I realize 115kbps is not much speed in a LAN, but
better than nothing.

Recently found two things, that may be of interest for the above purpose:

- One is called the AVR ethernet controller, designed by a japanese electronics
enthusiast. It consists of one only three active elements: the Realtek 8019AS
ethernet chip, one ATMEGA163-8PC (a 8-bit/16k risc microcontroller) and a MAX238
serial port ic. On one end it has 10megabit TX ethernet, the other end is plain
9-pin serial. And a complete design layout is provided for free. Could it be
used by the palmtop?

- The other thingie is called the DECServer 90TL. This is a book-sized box, that
accepts up to 7 serial devices (at 57.6kbps max) and provides them with access
to ethernet tcp/ip networks over PPP. Sorrowfully it has only a BNC (coax)
ethernet output, so you need some converter to plug it into todays twisted pair
networks. (Some cheaper HUBs still have one BNC connector, however).
The interesting issue is, this box would theoretically allow you to use the same
connection method (PPP) to internet when you are at home/office or on the road.
I just got one DEC 90TL, so I could test or lend it to someone to test.

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 13:55:12 -0400
Reply-To:     Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
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Okay, I give up.   I have studied the sample reg exp at the end of this
post, together with TexPad's information on how to use regular expressions,
plus some Google searches to try to educate myself, but somehow I just
cannot get it to work yet correctly yet.  Could someone help me with the
appropiate regular expression?  Here is an example of the type of outline I
need to convert, from the source format below to simple Tab delimited
output, such as Pal Edit produces (In this example, between the first period
and the first character there is supposed to be a single ascii tab, but it
doesn't come out in Outlook Express) :

Goals
1. Teaching
1.1 Expanded teaching search
1.2 Drop cards at Spring Valley and other schools
2. Home
2.1 Schedule of things to do around house
3. Other working
3.1 Apply for subbing at different schools
3.2 Investigate school music teaching
3.3 Investigate other working options
4. Gig Music
4.1 Pursue more Gig music
4.2 Search for more sheet music and tracks
4.3 Find a partner
5. Personal
6. Master's
6.1 What schools can I take the classes at?
6.1.1 Bibliography & Research
6.1.2 20th Cent Music
6.2 Strings Literature
6.2.1 Find libraries to continue the work at

The desired output should be something like this (again, with tabs, not
spaces):
Goals
    Teaching
        Expanded teaching search
        Drop cards at Spring Valley and other schools
    Home
(etc.)

Any and all help appreciated.

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Yves Leurquin" <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM>
> You mean manual replace?  That's what I am trying to avoid.   I want
> automatic replace.
> I have the 2002 version (and the personal version), which produces
outlines
> in the format you mention, but without the TABS.

No, I mean automatic replace through regular expression using TextPad or
similar application i.e. replace all digit followed by a dot by 3 spaces
([0-9][.] -> " " )

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:19:02 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Niels

10h01m ago Niels wrote:

> or one can use a virusscanner ;)
> I know mcaffee does a good job, norton probably too.

Yes, one can. But I think preventing a virus to work is always better
than wiping it out after it has done its work.
And since most viruses of today are targeted to the Outlook address
book, the ultimate solution to stop spreading of viruses - at least for
a certain amount of time until the virus creators have new ideas - is
obviously to deplete the address book. Or to use another mail client
than Outlook.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:19:01 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Russ,

20h17m ago Russel Brooks wrote:

> I'm forwarding ALL my spam email to uce@ftc.gov as part of their
> program to fight spam.  Since I get 50-75 spams a day doing 1 at
> a time is a pain.  Is there a way to tag all the spam email and
> then forward them with a single command somehow?

Not built into Post/LX I think, but you could use something like that:

1. Filter the spam into another Post/LX mailbox (not a folder).

If you want to send all the span, use a batch file and some sort of
filter program, maybe sed is sufficient, to do the following:

2. Rename the mailbox.i file to mailbox.o
3. Set the send flag at the beginning of every email,
sed could do that maybe
4. Change all To: addresses to uce@..., which can probably also dome by
sed
5. return to Post/LX and go online to send the spam mails.

I don't know if that would work. But I would try it that way.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:35:49 +0200
Reply-To:     Niels <hp700lx@SOFTHOME.NET>
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mcaffee does delete the virus _before_ it has done it's malicious job...
that's why I mentioned it...

[n]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Hertrich" <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: FTP Server:


> Hi Niels
>
> 10h01m ago Niels wrote:
>
> > or one can use a virusscanner ;)
> > I know mcaffee does a good job, norton probably too.
>
> Yes, one can. But I think preventing a virus to work is always better
> than wiping it out after it has done its work.
> And since most viruses of today are targeted to the Outlook address
> book, the ultimate solution to stop spreading of viruses - at least for
> a certain amount of time until the virus creators have new ideas - is
> obviously to deplete the address book. Or to use another mail client
> than Outlook.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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Russ,

I had to do it very seldom in the past; I can count this using one
hand.

In mode message view I press shft-F10 and store the message in a temp
directory (c:\tmp\multi.txt). The next message I like to forward is
appended the same way; and so on.

Finally multi.txt will be attached to the composed message.

The distributed messages then will look like as I did read them, no
extra header lines etc.

After I did send it I delete the file multi.txt.

Most of it could be done by a macro.

Kind regards

Helmuth

> I'm forwarding ALL my spam email to uce@ftc.gov as part of their
> program to fight spam.  Since I get 50-75 spams a day doing 1 at
> a time is a pain.  Is there a way to tag all the spam email and
> then forward them with a single command somehow?
>
> I'm using WWWLX v2 if it matters.
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
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Date:         Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:48:36 +0000
From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX?
To:           HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu

I'm forwarding ALL my spam email to uce@ftc.gov as part of their
program to fight spam.  Since I get 50-75 spams a day doing 1 at
a time is a pain.  Is there a way to tag all the spam email and
then forward them with a single command somehow?

I'm using WWWLX v2 if it matters.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:23:39 +1200
From:         Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX?
To:           HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu

--
04h57m ago Bryan Biggers wrote:

> > Is there a way to tag all the spam email and
> > then forward them with a single command somehow?
> >
> > I'm using WWWLX v2 if it matters.
> >
> > Cheers... Russ

Russ, you could tag them and do a block move to a special
folder box called say spam.i, then just attach spam.i to one
e-mail.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:15:27 -0500
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I'm not a regex expert, but it seems to me that you could just filter or translate each line like this (crude pseudocode):

^[0-9].[0-9].[0-9]/b -> <tab><tab><tab>
^[0-9].[0-9]/b -> <tab><tab>
^[0-9]./b -> <tab>

etc. (^ = start of line, /b - end of word/whitespace, -> = translate to)

Multiple digits are left as an exercise for the reader ;^)

I think there are many tools that can accomplish this, you could even use a streaming editor (sed), the translate tool (tr) or other unix tool... (if available)

The same might be possible by manually doing each translation (starting with deepest nesting first) in nearly any editor.

Hope this helps...

Ken

>
> From: Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
> Date: 2002/10/04 Fri PM 12:55:12 CDT
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Text convertion question
>
> Okay, I give up.   I have studied the sample reg exp at the end of this
> post, together with TexPad's information on how to use regular expressions,
> plus some Google searches to try to educate myself, but somehow I just
> cannot get it to work yet correctly yet.  Could someone help me with the
> appropiate regular expression?  Here is an example of the type of outline I
> need to convert, from the source format below to simple Tab delimited
> output, such as Pal Edit produces (In this example, between the first period
> and the first character there is supposed to be a single ascii tab, but it
> doesn't come out in Outlook Express) :
>
> Goals
> 1. Teaching
> 1.1 Expanded teaching search
> 1.2 Drop cards at Spring Valley and other schools
> 2. Home
> 2.1 Schedule of things to do around house

<snip>

> The desired output should be something like this (again, with tabs, not
> spaces):
> Goals
>     Teaching
>         Expanded teaching search
>         Drop cards at Spring Valley and other schools
>     Home
> (etc.)
>
> Any and all help appreciated.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:25:28 +0200
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Niels wrote:
> perhaps I missed an email, but are you still in?

Please bear with me - my mother complained about my being slow when I
was but a little boy. But thwere a a few other things I want to order
and it will be done soon. (My daughter is here for a fortnight, perhaps
zthat may help as a partial excuse.)

Danke
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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:44:40 +0200
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Niels wrote:
> You probably mean the
> automatic-mime-type execution (or something like that?)
> ...thus that it automatically executes the attachment
> when it's mimetype is set to audio/wav?

Very probably. I have never bothered too much about the details and only
remember some things very approximately.

> And, what do you mean by RID's?

If you look at my full headers, you will find a line "references" or
some such. Netscape shows a clickable number in the mail head and one
click on that takes me to the message the current one is in answer to.
Real newsreaders can take me backwards, forwards, sideways (several
replies to one post) all across the tree, netscape only does backward,
but even that is more than nothing.

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> "Nirody, Suresh" wrote:
> Nokia communicator. In its  Calendar application there is no place for
> location, so when you synch it with Outlook you NEVER get this. I'm
> not sure why anyone would think this was OK ;(

Well that is about the main reason why I hate those ready made pointee
clickee things so badly. The old 9000 had a tool to and from a rather
complicated but well documented ASCII file. This allows me, and me
alone, to control what goes goes where and how to map not quite similar
structures. I still use my old database in the emulated Atari because I
know of no other that allows me that much control over imports and
exports. Unfortunately the "output to key buffer" that allows me to
control other programs as long as they are not mouse-only works only
inside the emulator and not to other (Windows) programs outside it.
Filling in bank giro transfer forms was one single click before with BTX
and is a load of misery with T-Online.
I'm pretty sure the newer Nokias must offer something similar too.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:27:55 +0000
Reply-To:     Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Comments: To: Bryan Biggers <bbiggers@CHARTER.NET>
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Bryan Biggers wrote:
> What does the government do with all the spam? Are they going to
> save it up and send it all to Iraq or something? Does this
> actually do any good? If it did, I'd like to send them some of
> mine. Bryan

The article I read said they had used it as a basis for a couple
of legal actions against spamers already.

If it does ANY good I'm willing to send them all I've got.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:27:57 +0000
Reply-To:     Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Tony Hutchins wrote:
> Russ, you could tag them and do a block move to a special
> folder box called say spam.i, then just attach spam.i to one
> e-mail.

I think they are expecting them as single emails. They get about
15K emails per day so are using automated scanning for patterns
and probably wouldn't expect mutiple emails in 1 file.

If I can find a way to ask them a question I'll see if I can use
your idea.  Thanks!

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:14:42 -0400
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Does anyone have any good Roboweb scripts (or know of a site that has does)
to download news off of the web ?

If so, please email directly to me, thanks.

(Please make sure to remove any username/passwords you may have stored in
them)

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Does anyone have any good Roboweb scripts (or know of a site that has does)
to download news off of the web ?

 If so, please email directly to me, thanks.

 (Please make sure to remove any username/passwords you may have stored in
them)

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Date:         Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:02:56 +1200
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26m ago Russel Brooks wrote:

> Tony Hutchins wrote:
> > Russ, you could tag them and do a block move to a special
> > folder box called say spam.i, then just attach spam.i to one
> > e-mail.
>
> I think they are expecting them as single emails. They get about
> 15K emails per day so are using automated scanning for patterns
> and probably wouldn't expect mutiple emails in 1 file.

Sounds like they get enough spam already ;-)

Russ, I think Helmuth's method is best. If you turn on all the
headers with alt+H then Shift+F10 will append a nice copy of
the message to a file, including all headers, without any
attachments (which you probably don't want to send on anyway -
they are probably interested in the headers?).

Oh, if they just expect a single spam in each e-mail you will
have to forward each one individually - to ease the pain you
could dedicate a special e-mail box to this, with the To: line
in the template already filled in. The just Shift+F4 - choose
the special spam box, then F10. Yup! This works! After the
spam box is selected it stays selected so you can then just do
Shift+F4 ENTER (see the message template already nicely filled
in) F10, Shift+F4 ENTER F10, etc. This could be a nice macro.

Whoops, this method does not forward the full headers though,
even if they are turned on.

Do you need to on-send the full headers? Do the spam people
need the full attachments too? Forwarding attachments is not
automatic in POST/LX - to do that you need to have saved the
attachments first, and they need to be explicitly on-sent.

Helmuth's method is the way to go I think. What you could do
is again have a special spam e-mail box with a template like
this:


From: Russ <nospam@compuserve.com>
To: spamexaminers@spam.com
Subject: more spam from me
References:
Signature: spam.txt

Just make this in the usual way using F2, add the
From/To/Subject and F2 to add a signature file.

Now, all you need to do is
1. use alt+H to show all headers
2. for each spam item shift+F10 ENTER (this will add it to
spam.txt - or whatever named file you choose)
.....

now just go to you special spam e-mail box and press F2 F10
The outgoing e-mail is all ready! You don't even need to look
at it. Here POST/LX mentions a warning error because there is
no text, but the message is still formulated. You could type
in "Hi" in the text field before pressing F10.

You could even add a second signature file with a message in
("Hi, here is some more spam")

Of course you'll want to delete spam.txt after each
transmission.

The advantage of this is that spam.txt does not actually get
*stored* in your outbox. It is sent, on the fly, as a text
attachment.

Another way is to use the other type of signature -
in the setup for the spam box type in spam.txt as the
signature. This puts spam.txt in the outgoing message.

Or, of course you can just insert spam.txt manually.

Or, just delete it when it arrives ;-)

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:09:28 +0000
Reply-To:     Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: How Fwd multiple files with WWW/LX?
Comments: To: Barry <barry@fbtc.net>
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Barry wrote:
> I heard on Tech TV this morning that a study has determined that
> the amount of spam on the internet has increased fourfold since
> this time last year.

I can believe it, it's doubled in just the couple of months.
Since the economy headed south and folks stopped buying the
spammers have to try harder and the result is 4X spam.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:09:30 +0000
Reply-To:     Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Not built into Post/LX I think, but you could use something like that:
> 1. Filter the spam into another Post/LX mailbox (not a folder).
> ...

Daniel, great minds think alike. I've been thinking of
something similar.

1. move all my spam to a holding folder.
2. when I've got enough to send run a program from DOS that will
3. go thru the moved spam postlx folder file 1 at a time and
4. generate an unsent email to uce@ftc.gov with a single spam
   appended to it with full headers.
5. the next time I go online all the generated emails, each
   carrying 1 spam, will be sent.

If I go ahead with this I'll make it available if anyone is
interested.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:37:24 +1200
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From:         Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Re: RoboWeb scripts
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50m ago E M wrote:

> Does anyone have any good Roboweb scripts (or know of a
> site that has does) to download news off of the web ?

Have you already tried Roboweb itself (see below) and it is
not good enough?<VBG>. It has quite a few news digs included.
Or, do you mean you want to get NNTP news?

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From:         Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ>
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1 day 01h37m ago Russel Brooks wrote:

> I'm forwarding ALL my spam email to uce@ftc.gov as part
> of their program to fight spam.  Since I get 50-75 spams
> a day doing 1 at a time is a pain.  Is there a way to tag
> all the spam email and then forward them with a single
> command somehow?

Russ, I forgot to say that attglobal.net do the spam fighting
for me. They identify spam and put it in a special folder that
I never access. It's a free, but optional servcice. Very nice.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:49:30 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: OT: recomendations for domain regestration?

Andrew writes:
> Hello
> I've got a domain name coming up for renewal and I'm thinking there
> might be a better choice than my current one (NSI/Verisign).
> I only use it as a permanent E-mail address, I haven't even got a web
> site yet.
> Any recommendations?

This was recently discussed on the SpamAssassin list.  Seemed like
the best choice was Dotster.  I can send a summary from epinions.com
that was posted, if you would like more details.

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On 4 Oct 2002 at 10:20, Michel Bel wrote:

> I use 'Godaddy' - http://www.godaddy.com , they ask USD 9 going down to USD
> 7  ( 10 year ) per year, and have lots of cheap mailer etc option.
> _recommended_ !

I second the recommendation for GoDaddy as a Registrar. I have 4 or 5
domain names registered with them. I will never go back to Verisign after all
the trouble I had transferring a domain name I registered for someone else.

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I just looked at this site.  Looks like a nice deal.

Anyone know if the President, Bob Parsons, is the same one that ran Parsons=
 Software in the 80's and early 90's?  I think he sold out to Intuit/Quic=
ken because he made a competitive product.
bob

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> I use 'Godaddy' - http://www.godaddy.com , they ask

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And they got IMHO good customer suppport - 1 day turnaround on an email
question ( from Europe, so time difference permitting). And they _solve_ the
problems for you.

Met vriendelijke groet, kind regards,
Michel Bel
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I just looked at this site.  Looks like a nice deal.

Anyone know if the President, Bob Parsons, is the same one that ran Parsons
Software in the 80's and early 90's?  I think he sold out to Intuit/Quicken
because he made a competitive product.
bob

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> I use 'Godaddy' - http://www.godaddy.com , they ask

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On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Stephen Irons wrote:

> The Gnuish project has ports of Gnu utilities to MSDOS. They are generally older,
> smaller versions, but run on pre-386 machines. I have used them on an old 8086 with
> 512K RAM and CGA. I have never run them on the HP[12]00, though I do not see why
> they would not work.
>
> You can find a description and the files at http://www.simtel.net/pub/gnuish/

[...]

> Has anyone ever tried these on the palmtop?

I do. Those are somewhat old versions of GNU utilities, but even old
versions of good utilities is better than no version at all. ;)

I can confirm they work well on the HP200LS.

Some of the executable files you can find from the URL given here are
DOS+OS/2 executables. They contain some stub to detect if you're running
under OS/2 or DOS, and act accordingly. One might recompile these programs
with a pure DOS C compiler, to get smaller files.

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I third that recommendation for godaddy.

Very minimalist (but getting better everyday), and very cheap.

Just remember to take care of everything right away (especailly transfers)
as they don't give refunds if you mess things up.

For example...when doing transfers, there are a number of steps and each
step must happen within a couple of days of being notified (via email)....if
you forget to do something then the transfer fails and you lose your money.
I am not trying to scare you  (and it is very simple), just make sure you
pay close attention and understand the process when transferring from
another domain registrar.  (They will email you about what needs to be done
and how to do it....you would only mess up if you didn't pay attention)

The above warning only applies to transfers....As for brand new
registrations, I would imagine they would be VERY simple.

I recommend godaddy very highly.

I have also used networksolutions.com....

They say that "if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say
anything at all".

So I will let my silence regarding networksolutions speak for itself.

Regards,
Eric

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> On 4 Oct 2002 at 10:20, Michel Bel wrote:
>
> > I use 'Godaddy' - http://www.godaddy.com , they ask USD 9 going down to
USD
> > 7  ( 10 year ) per year, and have lots of cheap mailer etc option.
> > _recommended_ !
>
> I second the recommendation for GoDaddy as a Registrar. I have 4 or 5
> domain names registered with them. I will never go back to Verisign after
all
> the trouble I had transferring a domain name I registered for someone
else.
>
> ------
> Victor Roberts
>
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>

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Network wizards,

I'm still having difficulty configuring DOSPPP & WATTCP with my
Accton ethernet card for SSHDOS. Can anyone e-mail me the
commands they're using with any configuration files that are
necessary for this setup? My school recently restricted telnet
access in favor of the more-secure SSH, and now I don't have
access anymore..

Here are all the programs I've have downloaded: SSHDOS v0.2,
DOSPPP v0.6, WATTCP, LXETH, LSPPP. I think all I need to get
SSHDOS running is DOSPPP, WATTCP, and SSHDOS - is that correct?
The first step seems to be setting up DOSPPP, but I haven't
gotten anywhere with even that part. Most of the documentation
provided is for connecting via modem, but since I'm connecting
via an ethernet card, I'm lost. Using EPPPD instead of PPPD is
as far as I've gotten. :)  Can anyone help me out?

TIA!
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Solved it! Turned out I didn't need to run DOSPPP at all! I've
been using DHCP for WWWLX & POSTLX, but never thought to test
it directly with SSHDOS. But I just did, and it works!

Sorry about the wasted bandwidth - probably not news to anyone
on this list.. :)

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For Sale: FrameWork IV in original box, name your price + shipping (heavy!)

I haven't touched it in a long time and it's a big chunk of space.  Will drop
off anywhere in NYC for an iced tea :)

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Hi,

I want to purchase a used PDA. Could be a Palm IIIc or Casio BE-300. I fe=
ar, that these small 160x160 displays of a Palm are too small, and that t=
he Li-ion-batteries of older Palms have only low capacities. Can you give=
 me an advice?

Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton
Michael Lennartz
www.lennartz-online.net
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Date:         Sun, 6 Oct 2002 08:27:57 -0400
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Domingo - Here is a quick sed regular expression which does
what you want - it should at least give a hint
--Bill

> Goals
> 1. Teaching
> 1.1 Expanded teaching search
> 1.2 Drop cards at Spring Valley and other schools
> 2. Home
> 2.1 Schedule of things to do around house
>
is in the file 't'.

This command works for me:
   sed 's/[0-9][\.\ \   ]/      /g' t > t2
   (that's sed 's/[0-9][\.\<space>\<tab>]/<tab>/g' t >t2)
which means:
   substitute any case of 0-9 followed by a '.', space, or tab
   with a tab"
   and put the result in file 't2'

 >more t2
Goals
          Teaching
                 Expanded teaching search
                 Drop cards at Spring Valley and other schools
          Home
                 Schedule of things to do around house
          Other working
                 Apply for subbing at different schools
                 Investigate school music teaching
                 Investigate other working options
          Gig Music
                 Pursue more Gig music
                 Search for more sheet music and tracks
                 Find a partner
          Personal
          Master's
                 What schools can I take the classes at?
                         Bibliography & Research
                         20th Cent Music
                 Strings Literature
                         Find libraries to continue the work at

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> I want to purchase a used PDA.

That's your own fault ;-)

> Could be a Palm IIIc or Casio BE-300.

How do you got down to these two machines?

Palms divide the computing people into two groups: The ones who are
comfortable with the small things a palm offers, and the ones who
would never seriously use them. I'm a member of the second group, so
forget Palm ;-)

The BE-300 is a strange PDA. Its operating system ist made by casio
and (even based on WinCE 3.0) is NOT compatible to any other computer.
You can run some programs written for WinCE 2.11(!) but the whole
bunch of PocketPC-Software WILL NOT run on this thing.

regards,
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Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 7:17 AM
Subject: OT: PDA


Hi,

I want to purchase a used PDA. Could be a Palm IIIc or Casio
BE-300. I fear, that these small 160x160 displays of a Palm are too
small, and that the Li-ion-batteries of older Palms have only low
capacities. Can you give me an advice?

I've used Palms.  I have a Palm 3c and a Palm 3x.  The 3x is a mono
palm that uses twe AAA batteries and they typically last a month.
It's the first Palm that had a screen with good contrast.  It's
also backlit but the backlight is seldom useful, it's so dim.

It was my first Palm and I found it useful and I liked it's small
size and light weight.  I also have (and had) a 200lx and the
Palm's built in apps weren't nearly as powerful as those on the
200lx but I didn't need much beyond a phone book and a calander and
appointment keeper so I was perfectly happy with it.  Now that I'm
retired my main use of them is as an ebook reader.

The screen is small but, in the case of the mono Palm, it's
extremely sharp and the size was fine.  I even did a little reading
of ebooks on it.  If the light was good I was perfectly comfortable
with it.

I bought the 3c because it didn't need good external light.  It's
color but that was really secondary to me.  It was well lit.  It's
screen is as bright as laptop screen.  I can read it at night with
the lights turned off.  Even though the screen seems more pixelated
and less sharp than the mono Palm, ebook readers use font smoothing
on the color model and it's easier to read ebooks on it than on the
mono one.

Battery life depends not only on how much you use it but on what
you do with it.  For ebook reading I typically get six hours from
it's built-in battery.  Six hours is enough to get through a normal
couple of days using it as a PDA for work.  It recharges by
dropping it into the cradle.  I forget how long the recharge
actually takes but it seems like it's less than an hour even if the
battery is pretty low.

My eyes are poor and when I'm reading with it I sometimes find
myself wishing the screen was larger.  But I have no problem
reading it for an hour or two.  I haven't tried longer stretches.
Most of my reading from it is in bed after the lights are out.

The 3x was bought when they first became available and I've had no
problem whatever with it.  Just guessing I'd say it was 4 or 5
years old.  Maybe not that old.  I bought the 3c when it came out,
also.  I'd guess 3 or 4 years ago.  Again, it's never had a
problem.  However, compared to the 200lx they feel flimsy and I'm
very careful not to drop them.  I've also never had a scratch on
the screen in that time.  I don't use screen protectors.  I did for
a short time and I didn't like them so I decided to just take my
chances.

There is a huge amount of software available for all the Palms.
There is a lot of depth and breadth in the selection.  If you want
it, it's probably available, easy to find and not too expensive.
There are a few expensive apps but not many.  The quality of the
Palm software tends to be very good and is often excellent.  It's
the big market so it draws skilled programmers.

Contrary to what Oliver says, you don't have to forget Palm. :)

I don't have any experience at all with the WinCE or PocketPC
computers.  I've never had one in my hand.  Most of what I've read
about them is from Palm sites and is, of course, very biased.

The one negative I'm pretty sure of is that the software selection
isn't as good.  Whether it's "good enough" or not, I don't know.
My guess would be that it is.

The positive about the PocketPC/WinCE that I'm pretty sure about is
that the hardware is a lot more powerful.  Based on ads and
comments from users I'd guess that there is enough software to take
advantage of that if you want to use it for multimedia.  The newer
Palms can also be used for multimedia but only in limited ways.

If I were choosing I think multimedia capabilities would be the
number one consideration.  If I wanted them, I'd buy a PocketPC
PDA.  If I didn't, I'd buy a Palm.  When I was working the Palm was
the best choice for me for sure.  But now that I'm retired I'm not
sure which I'd pick if I had to start over.

But keep this in mind if you're used to the 200lx now:  whichever
way you go, you're going to lose a LOT of capability when you leave
the 200lx behind.  In exchange you get light weight, small size and
backlit screen, which ain't chopped liver.

While I've tried to write this with an open mind, I have been
infected by the "we're the good guys and they're evil" attitude,
over the years, of the user of any platform.  That's learned by
reading newsgroups and forums.  I can't help it.  It's totally out
of my control.  Therefore,  I do believe the Palm to be good and
the PocketPC to be evil and that Palm users are bright and smile a
lot and that PocketPC users go around saying "Duh!" all the time,
and don't know it's a joke.  Forget PocketPC.  :)

Funny thing is that when I'm using the 200lx, I continuously
disparage myself as a Palm user, and vice-versa when I'm using the
Palm.

Barry

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From my point of view, the only thing I can share is this:

I purchased a 95LX since the first day I saw one, upgraded to a 100LX as
soon as they came out, and switched again to a 200LX as soon as the larger
memory was available from HP (a rep told me to hold off a few weeks --
bless you, kind sir).  After all these years the LX family still does what
I need, when I need, how I need.

Over a year ago I was given a Palm at work, because it is the vehicle used
to load firmware into our new terminals.  I tried to like it, I really did.
 But it sits in my desk drawer, never used except when I have to download
firmware.  And then, the batteries are more often than not dead, and I have
to reload the application and data files before I can do anything useful
with it.

I'm sure the Palm is a good machine for some people.  I'm not one of them.

Still waiting for something better than the LX,
Rick

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On 10/6/2002 at 2:17 PM Michael L. wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I want to purchase a used PDA. Could be a Palm IIIc or Casio BE-300. I
>fear, that these small 160x160 displays of a Palm are too small, and that
>the Li-ion-batteries of older Palms have only low capacities. Can you give
>me an advice?
>
>Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton
>Michael Lennartz
>www.lennartz-online.net
>Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57
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Date:         Sun, 6 Oct 2002 19:03:03 +0200
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Rick,

> I'm sure the Palm is a good machine for some people.  I'm not one of them.

An excellent one!

> Still waiting for something better than the LX,

Me too, still waiting, waiting ..... <g>

Kind regards

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>From: "Michael L." <news@MIGARO.DE>
>I want to purchase a used PDA. Could be a Palm IIIc or Casio
>BE-300.
So which one is it?  It is is a BE300 it's a good choice.
It it is a Palm I would pass.

If you are looking for a device as good as the 200lx,
don't bother.   IMHO you would be better off getting
an upgraded device from Thaddeus.

After using a 200lx you will be  very dissapointed
with any alternative.



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Date:         Sun, 6 Oct 2002 21:49:57 +0200
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> So which one is it?  It is is a BE300 it's a good choice.

What's good on the BE-300? You get all the disadvantages a PocketPC
hast to offer without getting any of the benefits PocketPC2000/2002
could offer.

> After using a 200lx you will be  very dissapointed
> with any alternative.

That's right, as long as you want to do serious stuff and need a
reliable computer.

regards,
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Hi Oli,

you daily use a Jornada 430se, I know...

I daily use a SE-500. This is a fine machine, long battery life, good rea=
dable display with backlight on. (See: http://www.fortunecity.com/melting=
pot/bread/689/se500a.htm)

But I want to take some ebooks with me and write long texts. The display =
and the keyboard of the the 700LX and the 360LX are not so good, that I c=
an type really long texts. I thought: Now it is time to use a device with=
 a backligthed color display for reading ebooks in MobiPocket-format. I u=
se the MobiPocket Reader on the laptop and the 360LX, but especially the =
360LX teached me, how nice a color display would be.=20

And I like good keyboards in PC-quality. I write very much and long texts=
, and these Mickey-Mouse-keyboards are finally terrible. So I would buy a=
 foldable keyboard at ebay.=20

I would miss the CF-slots and the standard batteries of the HP-devices. I=
 am not sure, that I will be happy with a Palm, so I don't want to pay to=
o much. It's a test and a risc.=20

The BE-300 has a big display, that's why I asked about it.=20

There is not best device for all purposes. We have to carry with us sever=
al devices and select the best for the moment.

regards,
Michael

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+0200)
> I want to purchase a used PDA.
That's your own fault ;-)
> Could be a Palm IIIc or Casio BE-300.
How do you got down to these two machines?
Palms divide the computing people into two groups: The ones who are
comfortable with the small things a palm offers, and the ones who
would never seriously use them. I'm a member of the second group, so
forget Palm ;-)
The BE-300 is a strange PDA. Its operating system ist made by casio
and (even based on WinCE 3.0) is NOT compatible to any other computer.
You can run some programs written for WinCE 2.11(!) but the whole
bunch of PocketPC-Software WILL NOT run on this thing.
regards,
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> Russ, I forgot to say that attglobal.net do the spam fighting
> for me. They identify spam and put it in a special folder that
> I never access. It's a free, but optional servcice. Very nice.

If you never access it, how can you be sure they are only filtering out =
actual
spam?  I have a "spam filter" that comes with my E-mail provider.  I had =
to
disable it because it was pulling out mailings I had subscribed to.  =
Sometimes,
I want the E-mail even if it was sent to several thousand people at once.

This may not apply in your case, but it does point out the difficulty in
automating spam identification.

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Here's an excellent manual solution.
http://www.mailwasher.net/

Tom

Steve wrote:
If you never access it, how can you be sure they are only
filtering out actual
spam?  I have a "spam filter" that comes with my E-mail
provider.  I had to
disable it because it was pulling out mailings I had subscribed
to.  Sometimes,
I want the E-mail even if it was sent to several thousand people
at once.

This may not apply in your case, but it does point out the
difficulty in
automating spam identification.

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Just a quick note:  it's true that the Casio is very limited in the
software dept but if you just want to sync with Outlook, play some
mp3s or audiobooks and do a little e-reading - it isn't that bad.
The machine is cheap plastic but the color is good enough, sound
through headphones is okay and it has a CF card.  And an AC
adaptor, although it has decent battery life for a color machine.
For light usage, I think it would be fine.  The problem is that
when you want to do anything else, you're boxed in.

I don't know about the Palm IIIc (I have a mono TRG Pro w/CF slot
that I would recommend to anyone) but as much as I like some Palm
software, I'll never buy another PDA without a memory slot.

I will keep a Palm around as long as I have an investment in
Palmreader ebooks but I'm still looking for that perfect PDA
myself.  If the LX were just a little smaller...

YMMV and all that,

Terry in Iowa



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Hi,

I=92ve got a problem with vertical reader and was wondering if anyone =
has
also experienced this one:

When I was reading LoTR (All books in one big file) I noticed the page
limit of 1500 was not sufficient. I changed the value in the config
file, but nothing happened. I set it to 2000, 800 and several other
values without any effect. Do I have to register to use this feature?
The version I use was downloaded from SUPER pages.

Of course I could split the file in two and workaround the problem, but
maybe there=92s a better solution?

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:48 AM
Subject: Vertical Reader MaxPages problem


Hi,

> I've got a problem with vertical reader and was wondering if
anyone has
> also experienced this one:
>
> When I was reading LoTR (All books in one big file) I noticed the
page
> limit of 1500 was not sufficient. I changed the value in the
config
> file, but nothing happened. I set it to 2000, 800 and several
other
> values without any effect. Do I have to register to use this
feature?
> The version I use was downloaded from SUPER pages.
>
> Of course I could split the file in two and workaround the
problem, but
> maybe there's a better solution?

I'd split it in at least 2 or 3 parts whether there is a better
solution or not.  Smaller files are just less trouble and text is
trivial to split into smaller parts.

Barry

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Thanks,

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Dos keeps a second fat on most drives.  You can use Norton
Utilities or even debug (Norton is MUCH better) to copy it over to
the first fat.  That doesn't always help but it often does.  I
think Norton's Disk Doctor can do that, too.

You'll need to have some understanding of the layout of the disk
and some good documentation for the details.

If this is critical data for you and you're not experienced at this
I'd find someone who is.

If you just want to repair the drive, you can format it in any
laptop.  I think you can do it with the 200lx but I'm not sure.

Barry

----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:59 PM
Subject: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive?


> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey W. Asher"
Subject: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive?
**************************************
Jeff, If you are speaking of one of the large ram drives (32M, 64M or 96M)
that Thaddeus or Times2 Tech sells, I'm not sure what you can do.  You might
try running Chkdsk /f against it.  But sometimes this will cause problems
unto itself if the drive already has a corrupt FAT.
I've heard, but have not tried, that the scandisk from original Win 95 will
run on the 200lx.
(I do use edit.exe from Win 95 on my 200.)
Barry's suggestion doesn't seem likely to work for a ram drive.  (I just
can't figure out how you'd get that chip fitted into the laptop.  <G>)
If you are having problems with a memory card on the other hand, I will
concur with his suggestions.

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> Does anyone know of a URL/web site that describes the
> ESC-ON diagnostics and what each one means?
>
> I tried to run TEST-ALL and it seems to just wait at
> the keyboard test for me to hits keys....after about 3
> keys, it fails...very odd.

WARNING! Do *NOT* run "Test all" or "Plug-in RAM card" tests if you have a
flash card in the slot! You will lose your data and ruin your card! This
type of test is meant only for older SRAM cards!!!

To test "Display", select it then press any key repeatedly to see various
test patterns (and a poem!), and examine them visually for missing pixels
etc.

To test "Keyboard", select it then press every key on the keyboard in
order. Start with the top row, going from left to right, and finish with
the bottom row.

The "Wire serial port" test requires a loop-back resistor attached to the
port.

The other tests run without interaction.

I hope this helps!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Bad how?  What error msgs?  While doing what?

1st try:  CHKDSK F: /F
..and answer YES if it finds anything to fix.

Cheers... Russ

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive?


> Barry's suggestion doesn't seem likely to work for a ram drive.
(I just
> can't figure out how you'd get that chip fitted into the laptop.
<G>)

Oops!  :)

Barry

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              Casio
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Speaking of Casio,  you should read this:

http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/10/07/021007opgripe.xml

Makes me glad I own an HP.


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:08 AM
Subject: IIIc vs Casio


> Just a quick note:  it's true that the Casio is very limited in the
> software dept but if you just want to sync with Outlook, play some
> mp3s or audiobooks and do a little e-reading - it isn't that bad.
> The machine is cheap plastic but the color is good enough, sound
> through headphones is okay and it has a CF card.  And an AC
> adaptor, although it has decent battery life for a color machine.
> For light usage, I think it would be fine.  The problem is that
> when you want to do anything else, you're boxed in.
>
> I don't know about the Palm IIIc (I have a mono TRG Pro w/CF slot
> that I would recommend to anyone) but as much as I like some Palm
> software, I'll never buy another PDA without a memory slot.
>
> I will keep a Palm around as long as I have an investment in
> Palmreader ebooks but I'm still looking for that perfect PDA
> myself.  If the LX were just a little smaller...
>
> YMMV and all that,
>
> Terry in Iowa
>
>
>
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I already posted this on a separate thread, but since it is specifically
about upgrading the BE-300, I thought I should post it here as well,  jus=
t
in case this is the only thread the originator is following.

http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/10/07/021007opgripe.xml

My apologies to the group for the duplication.


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: PDA


Hi Oli,
...
The BE-300 has a big display, that's why I asked about it.
...
regards,
Michael

----- Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht -----
 ("Oliver W. Leibenguth" <Oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE>; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 15:28:05
+0200)
....
The BE-300 is a strange PDA. Its operating system ist made by casio
and (even based on WinCE 3.0) is NOT compatible to any other computer.
You can run some programs written for WinCE 2.11(!) but the whole
bunch of PocketPC-Software WILL NOT run on this thing.
.....
regards,
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Bob Penick wrote:
>  You might
> try running Chkdsk /f against it.  But sometimes this will cause problems
> unto itself if the drive already has a corrupt FAT.

I've never heard of Chkdsk causing problems.  However it is
possible it won't be able to reverse all the problems your drive
may have.  Example cross linked files.  Chkdsk will fix the
cross linked problem but one or both of the files will be lost
and/or damaged.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Russel Brooks
I've never heard of Chkdsk causing problems.  However it is possible it won=
't be able to reverse all the problems your drive may have.  Example cros=
s linked files.  Chkdsk will fix the cross linked problem but one or both=
 of the files will be lost and/or damaged.
***************************************
Russ,
I believe you are just more clearly stating what I was trying to say.  If y=
ou run chkdsk with the autorepair option with a FAT that is corrupt, it w=
ill make it's repairs based on the bad data in the FAT and you end up wit=
h JUNK.  Of course, if you are already at this point you probably have ju=
nk anyway and should be looking for those backups.
bob  (One who speaks from recent experience!)

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Hello,

 Do doublespeed upgrades make the displays more readable?

(I am not talking about the display issues associated to the necessity of a
driver.)

Thanks,
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: How do I fix a bad FAT on f:, the ram drive?


> Bob Penick wrote:
> >  You might
> > try running Chkdsk /f against it.  But sometimes this will
cause problems
> > unto itself if the drive already has a corrupt FAT.
>
> I've never heard of Chkdsk causing problems.  However it is
> possible it won't be able to reverse all the problems your drive
> may have.  Example cross linked files.  Chkdsk will fix the
> cross linked problem but one or both of the files will be lost
> and/or damaged.

If chkdsk encounters a problem and tries to fix it but the problem
is more extensive than chkdsk knows to look for, it can easily make
it worse.  It might do enough additional damage that nothing else
can fix it when it might have been easily repairable by another
program.

I use it all the time.  It's not a dangerous program.  But I'd
never use it on really critical data.  I'd try something else.

Programs like Norton's Disk Doctor are a lot more reliable than
chkdsk and have advantage that if they can't fix it they can
usually leave it unchanged.  That's not perfect either but it's
fairly reliable.

The most reliable method is doing it manually.  But it's rarely
worth the effort.  And there's still no guarantee.

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What's worse:

A weak hinge (one that doesn't exactly "fall" open, but offers little
resistance).

Or a firm hinge that may someday develop the dreaded hinge crack ?

Obviously an opinion-type question, but I am curious since I have come
accross LX's a different times that have one of these two conditions.  I am
wondering if there is any consensus among the long-time users ?

(Or if people have ever gone through several hinge cracks and happily found
a weak hinge model (or vice versa)).

Regards,
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Subject: Opinions ... Weak hinge or hinge crack risk ?


> What's worse:
>
> A weak hinge (one that doesn't exactly "fall" open, but offers
little
> resistance).
>
> Or a firm hinge that may someday develop the dreaded hinge crack
?

I have 5 various LXs and two of them had very tight hinges when I
bought them.  I worried about that for a long time but now I can't
tell which they were.  They're all about the same now.  It didn't
hurt them.

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What do you mean doing it manually?

Thanks,

Jeff

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> Bob Penick wrote:
> >  You might
> > try running Chkdsk /f against it.  But sometimes this will
cause problems
> > unto itself if the drive already has a corrupt FAT.
>
> I've never heard of Chkdsk causing problems.  However it is
> possible it won't be able to reverse all the problems your drive
> may have.  Example cross linked files.  Chkdsk will fix the
> cross linked problem but one or both of the files will be lost
> and/or damaged.

If chkdsk encounters a problem and tries to fix it but the problem
is more extensive than chkdsk knows to look for, it can easily make
it worse.  It might do enough additional damage that nothing else
can fix it when it might have been easily repairable by another
program.

I use it all the time.  It's not a dangerous program.  But I'd
never use it on really critical data.  I'd try something else.

Programs like Norton's Disk Doctor are a lot more reliable than
chkdsk and have advantage that if they can't fix it they can
usually leave it unchanged.  That's not perfect either but it's
fairly reliable.

The most reliable method is doing it manually.  But it's rarely
worth the effort.  And there's still no guarantee.

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> What do you mean doing it manually?

With a disk editor that can read the disk directly and pretty good
understanding of how the disk is organized below the file level,
it's sometimes possible to dig around and find parts of files and
re-assemble the data.  It's not always possible but with a lot of
detective work it can sometimes be done in whole or part.  It
depends on the extent of the damage.

The fat table is what ties the various parts of a file together.
The data might be scattered all over the disk (fragmented) and the
fat table is the only indication of what goes together.  If it's
partly destroyed, the data might very well be there.  There might
be no way of knowing where except to examine all the data on the
disk and figure out what goes together.  Usually there are some
clues left in the fat table.  Not always.

Parts of the data can also be missing, making it more difficult.
Again it just depends on what is damaged on the disk and how badly
it's damaged.

There's no formula for it.

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The weak hinge can be tightened slightly gradually until it is comfortable.

The too-tight hinge can be gradually loosened until it is comfortable.

The tightness is simply a function of how much torque was applied and how
much friction there is in the hinge.

Avi


At 10/7/02-08:42 PM, you wrote:
>What's worse:
>
>A weak hinge (one that doesn't exactly "fall" open, but offers little
>resistance).
>
>Or a firm hinge that may someday develop the dreaded hinge crack ?
>
>Obviously an opinion-type question, but I am curious since I have come
>accross LX's a different times that have one of these two conditions.  I am
>wondering if there is any consensus among the long-time users ?
>
>(Or if people have ever gone through several hinge cracks and happily found
>a weak hinge model (or vice versa)).
>
>Regards,
>Eric
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Not at all. No change at all. However: If you have a double speed machine
and run it WITHOUT the spd31 software, your screen is likely to be anything
from readable to unusably fuzzy. If you add the speed software and reboot,
magically you can now read the screen.

Hope this did not confuse you more...

Avi


At 10/7/02-08:33 PM, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>  Do doublespeed upgrades make the displays more readable?
>
>(I am not talking about the display issues associated to the necessity of a
>driver.)
>
>Thanks,
>Eric
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Barry wrote:
> With a disk editor that can read the disk directly and pretty good
> understanding of how the disk is organized below the file level,

Can you recommend an easy to use DOS disk editor and documentation on
how DOS stores partitioning information. On my Atari I was able to read
the (SCSI) HD by sector and had a very good documnetation of the root
sector, the patitions's boot sectors and everything else. It has more
than once allowed me to reclaim totally lost partitions (which just
proves I was dumb enaugh to more than once make the same mistake
resulting in the ruin of the root sector in the first place).

Danke
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> Can you recommend an easy to use DOS disk editor and
documentation on
> how DOS stores partitioning information. On my Atari I was able
to read
> the (SCSI) HD by sector and had a very good documnetation of the
root
> sector, the patitions's boot sectors and everything else. It has
more
> than once allowed me to reclaim totally lost partitions (which
just
> proves I was dumb enaugh to more than once make the same mistake
> resulting in the ruin of the root sector in the first place).

For dos there's Norton editor.  If you have dos Norton utilities
it's called NU.  I've used others with more features but this is
the one I've used most and I don't remember the names of the
others.  NU is fine for me.

If you can find a copy of the old "MS-DOS Programmer's Reference"
from Microsoft press, it's a pretty complete reference on the disk
and a lot of other things.

"Undocumented DOS" by Andrew Schulman is one of the best
information sources.  Also out of print, I'm sure, but I think I
remember seeing it online somewhere.

"Undocumented PC" is another good one.  I don't have it handy and I
don't remember the author's name.  Someone in the group can
probably provide it.

Also "The MS-DOS Encyclopedia"  by Ray Duncan and others has a lot
of information.  Out of print and since it was so huge and so
expensive it'll probably be hard to find.

Online there's (www.cybertrails.com/~fys/diskinfo.htm) and
(home.no.net/tkos/info/fat.html) and
(www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/index.htm) and
(www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodte
chnol/winxppro/reskit/prkc_fil_yksz.asp)

A couple of week ago someone gave the url of Dosref 3.4.  I no
longer have the url.  Hopefully somoene can profide that.  Chapter
8 in the downloadble reference has lots of information on the disk
system.

Get helppc at (ftp://x2ftp.oulu.fi/pub/msdos/programming/docs/).
It has a lot of easily found reference material.  It's also good
for just about anything else technical that you do with a computer.
Every programmer should have this.  Most probably do.

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E M wrote:
> What's worse:
>
> A weak hinge (one that doesn't exactly "fall" open, but offers little
> resistance).
>
> Or a firm hinge that may someday develop the dreaded hinge crack ?

The weak hinge is more of a nuisance day to day because you're
always having to adjust it.  The firm hinge is only a bother
when the hinge cracks and you have to fix it which could result
in a multi-day outage if you have to send your only LX to be
repaired.

If I had to pick I guess I'd go for the loose hinge but I'd MUCH
rather get one that somewhere in the middle between too loose
and too hight.

I've got one of each.

Cheers... Russ

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Is this a good deal? (eBay)

DIGICAM 1800mA AA NIMH BATTERIES $1.25 each
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1386181149

Can the LX charge these fully?

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> Is this a good deal? (eBay)
>
> DIGICAM 1800mA AA NIMH BATTERIES $1.25 each
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1386181149

I'm not familiar with DIGICAM but if that's a decent brand it's a
great price.  Thomas Distributing sells Maha 1800 mAH batteries for
$14.87 for a four pack which is $4.62 each.

> Can the LX charge these fully?

I prefer not to use the charger in the LX so I can't help with
that.  I use an external charger and swap batteries.   I think Avi
has some software to deal with that.

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I was following a thread on www.techbargains.com and found the Accurite Tra=
vel Floppy for sale for $39.00 plus shipping. They were originally sold f=
or use as a floppy drive for the Itronix brand tough laptops.  The bigges=
t downside I can find is that they don't include the 5V AC adapter which =
you would need with the LX.  On the otherhand, they do have a 90 day warr=
anty.
I've never done business with Computer Surplus Outlet, but the price seems =
fair.

Hope this is useful to someone.
bob

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Bob,
This would be great for HP200LX users, but I am not sure it is the Accurite
Floppy as seen on the Accurite web page:
http://www.accurite.com/Travel.html

What makes you think it is the Accurite product?

    Bob Pigford
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I was following a thread on www.techbargains.com and found the Accurite
Travel Floppy for sale for $39.00 plus shipping. They were originally sold
for use as a floppy drive for the Itronix brand tough laptops.  The biggest
downside I can find is that they don't include the 5V AC adapter which you
would need with the LX.  On the otherhand, they do have a 90 day warranty.
I've never done business with Computer Surplus Outlet, but the price seems
fair.

Hope this is useful to someone.
bob

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Hi Donald and Barry

05h36m ago Barry wrote:

> > Can the LX charge these fully?
>
> I prefer not to use the charger in the LX so I can't help with
> that.  I use an external charger and swap batteries.   I think Avi
> has some software to deal with that.

I use 1800s for abt, a year now, and I have totally deactivated
trickle charging, so as long as the LX is on AC power, is recharges
batteries with the full 100mA. The spd31.exe Doublespeed driver offers
a switch for that, and I think there is also other software available
which can aviod trickle charge.

So the LX can fully charge 1800s in about 18 hours, if they are empty.

I let it charge the batteries every night for about 7-8 hours, and in
the morning I have a voltage of about 2.7-2.8V. In the evening, usually
after a few hours of usage, some of them with backlight switched on, I
have voltages from 2.5V down to 2.3V. So this is a good usage pattern
for me.

GTX
daniel

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1 day 03h42m ago Avi Meshar wrote:

> Not at all. No change at all. However: If you have a double speed machine

Well, not necessarily.
But Mack's Double speed driver, and I think also Stefans, offer a way
to change the display refresh rate, which has effect on the contrast,
too.

GTX
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Hi Eric and Russel

09h58m ago Russel Brooks wrote:

> If I had to pick I guess I'd go for the loose hinge but I'd MUCH
> rather get one that somewhere in the middle between too loose
> and too hight.

Why pick? Adjust!
See http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair

Another idea for tightening a weak hinge could be to stuff some layers
of paper or whatever into the gaps under the hinge caps. This could add
a bit of friction and thus make the hinge tighter.

GTX
daniel

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Sorry if this comes late, I'm having some trouble with my ADSL line since
the last week-end. They managed to provide me with a 99% *downtime*. My
ADSL modem catches the line maybe 5 minutes a day, and I don't control
when.

On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Axel Berger wrote:

> Barry wrote:
> > With a disk editor that can read the disk directly and pretty good
> > understanding of how the disk is organized below the file level,
>
> Can you recommend an easy to use DOS disk editor

I personnaly use an old version of Norton Disk Editor, one of the
utilities contained in the Norton Utilities package. I tested some weeks
ago a rather new version of these tools, and the DiskEdit is no more a
disk editor (or I haven't found the way to make it act like that).

> and documentation on
> how DOS stores partitioning information.

You can find some information on this subject in the DOS Technical
Reference Manual (the DOSREF shareware I already wrote about), or a book
well known in the past in France, written by a german guy, "La Bible PC".
I'm sure there's some other online places where you can find that kind of
information.

> On my Atari I was able to read
> the (SCSI) HD by sector and had a very good documnetation of the root
> sector, the patitions's boot sectors and everything else. It has more
> than once allowed me to reclaim totally lost partitions (which just
> proves I was dumb enaugh to more than once make the same mistake
> resulting in the ruin of the root sector in the first place).

I did that kind of exercise some times, for friends and for me. The DOS
FAT filesystem and the PC partition scheme is easy to understand. If
you're used to do it on your Atari, I'm sure you'll have no difficulty
with a simple FAT filesystem.

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At least from the logo it seems to be the same. I don't remember now -
does it work in DS machine also?

Now question for Czech HPLXers: is here anybody else except me who wants to
order it
to save shipping costs? About 30$...

Radek

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>
> Bob,
> This would be great for HP200LX users, but I am not sure it is the
Accurite
> Floppy as seen on the Accurite web page:
> http://www.accurite.com/Travel.html
>
> What makes you think it is the Accurite product?
>
> Bob Pigford
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> Subject: Used Accurite Travel Floppy Drives for sale
>
>
> I was following a thread on www.techbargains.com and found the Accurite
> Travel Floppy for sale for $39.00 plus shipping. They were originally sold
> for use as a floppy drive for the Itronix brand tough laptops.  The
biggest
> downside I can find is that they don't include the 5V AC adapter which you
> would need with the LX.  On the otherhand, they do have a 90 day warranty.
> I've never done business with Computer Surplus Outlet, but the price seems
> fair.
>
> Hope this is useful to someone.
> bob
>
> http://www.computersurplusoutlet.com/viewproduct.asp?ProductID=STO-144PCM
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Barry wrote:

> For dos there's Norton editor.  If you have dos Norton utilities
> it's called NU.  I've used others with more features but this is
> the one I've used most and I don't remember the names of the
> others.  NU is fine for me.

   Norton Diskedit, NU is the shell on my system.

> "Undocumented PC" is another good one.  I don't have it handy and I
> don't remember the author's name.  Someone in the group can
> probably provide it.

   Frank van Gilluwe.  Both Undocumented books are quite good
references.  Both Peter Norton and Paul Mace put out disaster
recovery how to books as well.

   It should be noted that most RAM disks have only one FAT.
I don't know about the Thaddeus one's though.  Disk information
tools should tell you the layouts of these anyhow.  Such as;

Format information for drive F:
BPB: Formatted by:         OS2VDISK
BPB: Media descriptor:     F8 (fixed 8.5M media )
Cal: Total cylinders:      17000
BPB: Heads:                1
BPB: Sectors per cylinder: 1
BPB: Bytes per sector:     512
BPB: Hidden sectors:       0
BPB: Total disk sectors:   17000
Cal: Total disk bytes:     8704000
BPB: Reserved sectors:     1
BPB: FAT sectors (1 FAT):  7
BPB: FAT copies:           1
Cal: Total FAT sectors:    7
BPB: Root dir. entries:    64
Cal: Directory sectors:    4
Cal: Total data sectors:   16988
BPB: Sectors per cluster:  8
Cal: Bytes per cluster:    4096
Cal: Total clusters:       2123
Cal: FAT entry size:       12 bits (1.5 bytes)
Cal: Total data bytes:     8697856

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>    Norton Diskedit, NU is the shell on my system.

Isn't that NI?  Norton Intigrator, I think.

In the early Norton utilities the disk editor was called Norton.exe
and the other tools had their own names.  Later they changed the
disk editor to NU when they gave them all 2 letter names.  I think
that was around version 5 but I maybe off by a version.

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Radek,
The Travelfloppy works great with my two DS machines.  Some users have expe=
rienced intermitant problems though.  I tried helping Richard Smith a few=
 months ago and we never completely solved all his problems with his DS a=
nd the drive.  I seem to remember that the company did not warranty it to=
 work with DS palmtops, but I can't find that info on their web site now.=
  If so, it is probably a blanket statement to cover themselves from havi=
ng to solve problems that are out of their control.
bob

-----Original Message-----
From: "Svagr, Radek" <At least from the logo it seems to be the same. I don=
't remember now -
does it work in DS machine also?

Now question for Czech HPLXers: is here anybody else except me who wants to
order it
to save shipping costs? About 30$...

Radek

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Bob et al,
I just ordered one from Surplus Computer Outlet.  When it arrives, I'll try
it with my DS HP200LX and let the list know how it goes.
    Regards,
    Bob
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Subject: Re: Used Accurite Travel Floppy Drives for sale


Radek,
The Travelfloppy works great with my two DS machines.  Some users have
experienced intermitant problems though.  I tried helping Richard Smith a
few months ago and we never completely solved all his problems with his DS
and the drive.  I seem to remember that the company did not warranty it to
work with DS palmtops, but I can't find that info on their web site now.  If
so, it is probably a blanket statement to cover themselves from having to
solve problems that are out of their control.
bob

-----Original Message-----
From: "Svagr, Radek" <At least from the logo it seems to be the same. I
don't remember now -
does it work in DS machine also?

Now question for Czech HPLXers: is here anybody else except me who wants to
order it
to save shipping costs? About 30$...

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Is there a way to adjust the refresh rate on a non-doublespeed model ?

I would gladly give up a little speed on a regular model for a crisper
display.


----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays.


> 1 day 03h42m ago Avi Meshar wrote:
>
> > Not at all. No change at all. However: If you have a double speed
machine
>
> Well, not necessarily.
> But Mack's Double speed driver, and I think also Stefans, offer a way
> to change the display refresh rate, which has effect on the contrast,
> too.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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Good Afternoon All:
I did a very dumb thing yesterday...I dumped a glass of water on my
200LX
I took the batteries out and took the unit apart. I dried the boards
(no ESD events I hope...) and re-assembled the unit.
This AM I put the batteries back in and turned it on. The re-init
screens appeared but there is no keyboard input. I took it back apart
and checked the kbd connector and all appears ok with the ribbon cable
and connector.
What have I overlooked? How do you take the keyboard apart?
Thanks for any insight.

Jack Skelley
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At 09:00 AM 10/9/02 -0500, Barry wrote:
>>    Norton Diskedit, NU is the shell on my system.
>
>Isn't that NI?  Norton Intigrator, I think.
>
   Norton Utiliies => NU, don't know if that was
version dependent.  Yeah, Norton Integrator rings
a bell.  In version 8 it's NORTON.EXE for the shell.
And it says "Norton Utilities".

>In the early Norton utilities the disk editor was called Norton.exe
>and the other tools had their own names.  Later they changed the
>disk editor to NU when they gave them all 2 letter names.  I think
>that was around version 5 but I maybe off by a version.
>
>Barry

   Well, I used 5.0, 6.0, 8.0, and some earlier versions,
which I don't really remember too well.  From 5 (6?) on it
was DISKEDIT or DE.EXE.  In (some?) earlier versions it
was part of the general utility program, so it would have
been NORTON.EXE.

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If there is a way to change the refresh speed I do not know it. Perhaps
there is some utility that can do it?

If your display is not crisp then you have another problem altogether. I
have never heard before of a 100 or 200 screen not being crisp. Some people
complained about contrast levels, but I never heard of the crisp issue.

I am speculating that perhaps you have a double speeded machine which falls
on the almost readable side, hence you can use it fine, but the screen
seems a bit fuzzy.

Perhaps you can try the SPD31.SYS driver which adjusts the palmtop to the
speedier crystal in the CONFIG.SYS? If your screen is better, it is time to
explore what hardware (motherboard) you REALLY have. It may be an upgraded
machine and you do not know it.

All this is speculation, since you provided no information on what you
actually DO see, or what tests you HAVE done, or what storage is available.
There was a hint early on something about all drivers having been wiped out
from the machine. The 200Lx needs no drivers when it comes out of the box,
AFAIK, and so perhaps your reference means a little more than just "I use a
vanilla machine". I do not know and can't guess.

In any case, I never heard of a fuzzy screen except in cases of upgraded
machines (faster crystal). In that case, use the speed driver.

All the best, and good luck.

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Sorry to hear about the dunking. I did a similar thing once to a HP
Omnibook 800, but with wine, and I call that machine the "Cabernet Machine"
since then. (That incident destroyed a 64MB memory chip :-( ...)

The keyboard on the 200LX is rather complicated little construction and it
is possible for water to have gone where it should not causing problems.

The fact that the machine initializes is good as far as it goes, because
there is a lot of self-checking going on before it comes to life.

Suggestion: Leave the machine without batteries, in a place that gets a
good airflow for two-three days! This will give everything a chance to dry
out. Hopefully there was nothing corrosive in the water (unlike wine, for
example)...

We heard once of someone actually putting the machine in the oven which was
NOT TURNED ON, just the pilot provided a bit of heat to help dry the
palmtop. But I DO NOT recommend it, someone may hit the oven to pre-heat it
for something without even opening it and seeing there is something
"unbakeable" in there.

Good luck.

Avi

At 10/9/02-12:01 PM, you wrote:
>Good Afternoon All:
>I did a very dumb thing yesterday...I dumped a glass of water on my
>200LX
>I took the batteries out and took the unit apart. I dried the boards
>(no ESD events I hope...) and re-assembled the unit.
>This AM I put the batteries back in and turned it on. The re-init
>screens appeared but there is no keyboard input. I took it back apart
>and checked the kbd connector and all appears ok with the ribbon cable
>and connector.
>What have I overlooked? How do you take the keyboard apart?
>Thanks for any insight.
>
>Jack Skelley
>skelley@newjerseydevils.com
>
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I am sorry...I guess I was being vague.

I have a double speed that is very crisp....No drivers yet, but even with
the drivers I can adjust the refresh rate that in turn will affect the
crispness (contrast level) of the display....I beleive that is what Daniel
stated in his reply.

I have a few other units that are not doublespeed and compared them to the
double speed and thier contrast isn't nearly as sharp.  Don't get me wrong,
the displays are very nice, so the units are not defective.....and I would
have never noticed the difference unless I put them side by side with the
doublespeed unit.

But the doublespeed unit display is noticably sharper.  I have gotten
several opinions on this, so it is not just me.

Since the double doesn't have the driver yet, my guess is that it is
refreshing at doublespeed, hence the improvement.

With that said, and considering the fact that the doublespeed driver allows
the tweaking of the refresh rate, I was wondering if I could use the driver
(or some similar driver) on a non-doublespeed unit to increase the refresh
rate.  (In other words, I would like ALL my units to use higher refresh
rates, even if it slightly affects performance).

Can I do this with the driver, or is there another driver that will let me
do this on a non-doublespeed unit?

Thanks,
Eric

----- Original Message -----
From: <hplxmail@alwaysafe.com>
To: "E M" <HPLX@BATTLEQUEST.COM>; <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays.


> If there is a way to change the refresh speed I do not know it. Perhaps
> there is some utility that can do it?
>
> If your display is not crisp then you have another problem altogether. I
> have never heard before of a 100 or 200 screen not being crisp. Some
people
> complained about contrast levels, but I never heard of the crisp issue.
>
> I am speculating that perhaps you have a double speeded machine which
falls
> on the almost readable side, hence you can use it fine, but the screen
> seems a bit fuzzy.
>
> Perhaps you can try the SPD31.SYS driver which adjusts the palmtop to the
> speedier crystal in the CONFIG.SYS? If your screen is better, it is time
to
> explore what hardware (motherboard) you REALLY have. It may be an upgraded
> machine and you do not know it.
>
> All this is speculation, since you provided no information on what you
> actually DO see, or what tests you HAVE done, or what storage is
available.
> There was a hint early on something about all drivers having been wiped
out
> from the machine. The 200Lx needs no drivers when it comes out of the box,
> AFAIK, and so perhaps your reference means a little more than just "I use
a
> vanilla machine". I do not know and can't guess.
>
> In any case, I never heard of a fuzzy screen except in cases of upgraded
> machines (faster crystal). In that case, use the speed driver.
>
> All the best, and good luck.
>
> Avi
>
>

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Did you peel the keyboard overlay off and dry the keys ?....if not, I
recommend NOT turning on the unit again until you have done so, else you may
short out something important and un-fixable.

Follow Daniel "The Hardware Guru" Hertrich [ 8-) ] instructions here (note,
you do not need to disassemble the entire unit to remove the
keyboard)...just jump to the keyboard section:

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair/dismantle.shtml

However, If you do take it apart again (which is probably a good idea), I
would leave it apart for a few days under a warm light or other heat source
to let evaporation handle any remaining moisture...you definately don't want
to seal in any moisture.

Eric

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Skelley" <Skelley@NEWJERSEYDEVILS.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:01 PM
Subject: Water Logged 200LX keyboard


> Good Afternoon All:
> I did a very dumb thing yesterday...I dumped a glass of water on my
> 200LX
> I took the batteries out and took the unit apart. I dried the boards
> (no ESD events I hope...) and re-assembled the unit.
> This AM I put the batteries back in and turned it on. The re-init
> screens appeared but there is no keyboard input. I took it back apart
> and checked the kbd connector and all appears ok with the ribbon cable
> and connector.
> What have I overlooked? How do you take the keyboard apart?
> Thanks for any insight.
>
> Jack Skelley
> skelley@newjerseydevils.com
>
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I should also mention...I have tested all the units with the ESC-ON Timer
and they are definately not doublespeed units....except for the one I know
about.


----- Original Message -----
From: "E M" <HPLX@BATTLEQUEST.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays.


> I am sorry...I guess I was being vague.
>
> I have a double speed that is very crisp....No drivers yet, but even with
> the drivers I can adjust the refresh rate that in turn will affect the
> crispness (contrast level) of the display....I beleive that is what Daniel
> stated in his reply.
>
> I have a few other units that are not doublespeed and compared them to the
> double speed and thier contrast isn't nearly as sharp.  Don't get me
wrong,
> the displays are very nice, so the units are not defective.....and I would
> have never noticed the difference unless I put them side by side with the
> doublespeed unit.
>
> But the doublespeed unit display is noticably sharper.  I have gotten
> several opinions on this, so it is not just me.
>
> Since the double doesn't have the driver yet, my guess is that it is
> refreshing at doublespeed, hence the improvement.
>
> With that said, and considering the fact that the doublespeed driver
allows
> the tweaking of the refresh rate, I was wondering if I could use the
driver
> (or some similar driver) on a non-doublespeed unit to increase the refresh
> rate.  (In other words, I would like ALL my units to use higher refresh
> rates, even if it slightly affects performance).
>
> Can I do this with the driver, or is there another driver that will let me
> do this on a non-doublespeed unit?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <hplxmail@alwaysafe.com>
> To: "E M" <HPLX@BATTLEQUEST.COM>; <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:18 PM
> Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays.
>
>
> > If there is a way to change the refresh speed I do not know it. Perhaps
> > there is some utility that can do it?
> >
> > If your display is not crisp then you have another problem altogether. I
> > have never heard before of a 100 or 200 screen not being crisp. Some
> people
> > complained about contrast levels, but I never heard of the crisp issue.
> >
> > I am speculating that perhaps you have a double speeded machine which
> falls
> > on the almost readable side, hence you can use it fine, but the screen
> > seems a bit fuzzy.
> >
> > Perhaps you can try the SPD31.SYS driver which adjusts the palmtop to
the
> > speedier crystal in the CONFIG.SYS? If your screen is better, it is time
> to
> > explore what hardware (motherboard) you REALLY have. It may be an
upgraded
> > machine and you do not know it.
> >
> > All this is speculation, since you provided no information on what you
> > actually DO see, or what tests you HAVE done, or what storage is
> available.
> > There was a hint early on something about all drivers having been wiped
> out
> > from the machine. The 200Lx needs no drivers when it comes out of the
box,
> > AFAIK, and so perhaps your reference means a little more than just "I
use
> a
> > vanilla machine". I do not know and can't guess.
> >
> > In any case, I never heard of a fuzzy screen except in cases of upgraded
> > machines (faster crystal). In that case, use the speed driver.
> >
> > All the best, and good luck.
> >
> > Avi
> >
> >
>
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Aha!

I see what you mean by crisp. I interpreted "not crisp" to mean "fuzziness"
- the outlines of characters were not well delineated.

You mean the difference between dark and light. Chekc in the 200LX User
Manual: in mine it is on page 21-4: To adjust the display contrast from any
application and it says, press ON and while it is depressed press + to
darken and - to lighten, and / to invert the colors.



At 10/9/02-01:12 PM, you wrote:
>I am sorry...I guess I was being vague.
>
>I have a double speed that is very crisp....No drivers yet, but even with
>the drivers I can adjust the refresh rate that in turn will affect the
>crispness (contrast level) of the display....I beleive that is what Daniel
>stated in his reply.

When you say adjust the refresh rate, you mean the adjustment I described
above? Or something else?

>I have a few other units that are not doublespeed and compared them to the
>double speed and thier contrast isn't nearly as sharp.  Don't get me wrong,
>the displays are very nice, so the units are not defective.....and I would
>have never noticed the difference unless I put them side by side with the
>doublespeed unit.
>
>But the doublespeed unit display is noticably sharper.  I have gotten
>several opinions on this, so it is not just me.
>
>Since the double doesn't have the driver yet, my guess is that it is
>refreshing at doublespeed, hence the improvement.

I have really not ever seen ANY difference in CONTRAST between double speed
units and single speed units.

>With that said, and considering the fact that the doublespeed driver allows
>the tweaking of the refresh rate,

It does? How? If it is what I described above, then no, all units
double-speeded or not have that ability.

>I was wondering if I could use the driver (or some similar driver) on a
>non-doublespeed unit to increase the refresh rate.  (In other words, I
>would like ALL my units to use higher refresh rates, even if it slightly
>affects performance).

I am not sure the terms are correct, but I really do not know for sure, so
I won't comment with any authority. I do not think that refresh rate has
anything to do with the contrast of the LCD screen, but again, this is not
my expertise and I would love to learn.

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Thanks for the help,  but I know about the -/+ keys.

I am really refering to when both palmtops are at thier optimal settings
(using -/+) the doublespeed is still significantly sharper. (for lack of a
better word).  Basically easier to read in limited light.

I really am quite sure it is due to the higher refresh rate of the
doublespeed.  I will have to mess with the drivers to see if i can boost the
refresh on a normal unit.

Regards,
Eric


----- Original Message -----
From: <hplxmail@alwaysafe.com>
To: "E M" <HPLX@BATTLEQUEST.COM>; <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays.


> Aha!
>
> I see what you mean by crisp. I interpreted "not crisp" to mean
"fuzziness"
> - the outlines of characters were not well delineated.
>
> You mean the difference between dark and light. Chekc in the 200LX User
> Manual: in mine it is on page 21-4: To adjust the display contrast from
any
> application and it says, press ON and while it is depressed press + to
> darken and - to lighten, and / to invert the colors.
>
>
>
> At 10/9/02-01:12 PM, you wrote:
> >I am sorry...I guess I was being vague.
> >
> >I have a double speed that is very crisp....No drivers yet, but even with
> >the drivers I can adjust the refresh rate that in turn will affect the
> >crispness (contrast level) of the display....I beleive that is what
Daniel
> >stated in his reply.
>
> When you say adjust the refresh rate, you mean the adjustment I described
> above? Or something else?
>
> >I have a few other units that are not doublespeed and compared them to
the
> >double speed and thier contrast isn't nearly as sharp.  Don't get me
wrong,
> >the displays are very nice, so the units are not defective.....and I
would
> >have never noticed the difference unless I put them side by side with the
> >doublespeed unit.
> >
> >But the doublespeed unit display is noticably sharper.  I have gotten
> >several opinions on this, so it is not just me.
> >
> >Since the double doesn't have the driver yet, my guess is that it is
> >refreshing at doublespeed, hence the improvement.
>
> I have really not ever seen ANY difference in CONTRAST between double
speed
> units and single speed units.
>
> >With that said, and considering the fact that the doublespeed driver
allows
> >the tweaking of the refresh rate,
>
> It does? How? If it is what I described above, then no, all units
> double-speeded or not have that ability.
>
> >I was wondering if I could use the driver (or some similar driver) on a
> >non-doublespeed unit to increase the refresh rate.  (In other words, I
> >would like ALL my units to use higher refresh rates, even if it slightly
> >affects performance).
>
> I am not sure the terms are correct, but I really do not know for sure, so
> I won't comment with any authority. I do not think that refresh rate has
> anything to do with the contrast of the LCD screen, but again, this is not
> my expertise and I would love to learn.
>
>

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I use NiMh 1900 mAh for 3,6$ each, and i am fully satisfied with them.

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To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: eBay battery auction


Is this a good deal? (eBay)

DIGICAM 1800mA AA NIMH BATTERIES $1.25 each
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1386181149

Can the LX charge these fully?

Don

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Avi,

I just thought I should let you know that I keep getting duplicate messages
from you....

I am forwarding them both back to you.....

This one goes to me and the group.....(see "To:" section below):

----- Original Message -----
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To: "E M" <HPLX@BATTLEQUEST.COM>; <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays.


> Aha!
>
> I see what you mean by crisp. I interpreted "not crisp" to mean
"fuzziness"
> - the outlines of characters were not well delineated.
>
> You mean the difference between dark and light. Chekc in the 200LX User
> Manual: in mine it is on page 21-4: To adjust the display contrast from
any
> application and it says, press ON and while it is depressed press + to
> darken and - to lighten, and / to invert the colors.
>
>
>
> At 10/9/02-01:12 PM, you wrote:
> >I am sorry...I guess I was being vague.
> >
> >I have a double speed that is very crisp....No drivers yet, but even with
> >the drivers I can adjust the refresh rate that in turn will affect the
> >crispness (contrast level) of the display....I beleive that is what
Daniel
> >stated in his reply.
>
> When you say adjust the refresh rate, you mean the adjustment I described
> above? Or something else?
>
> >I have a few other units that are not doublespeed and compared them to
the
> >double speed and thier contrast isn't nearly as sharp.  Don't get me
wrong,
> >the displays are very nice, so the units are not defective.....and I
would
> >have never noticed the difference unless I put them side by side with the
> >doublespeed unit.
> >
> >But the doublespeed unit display is noticably sharper.  I have gotten
> >several opinions on this, so it is not just me.
> >
> >Since the double doesn't have the driver yet, my guess is that it is
> >refreshing at doublespeed, hence the improvement.
>
> I have really not ever seen ANY difference in CONTRAST between double
speed
> units and single speed units.
>
> >With that said, and considering the fact that the doublespeed driver
allows
> >the tweaking of the refresh rate,
>
> It does? How? If it is what I described above, then no, all units
> double-speeded or not have that ability.
>
> >I was wondering if I could use the driver (or some similar driver) on a
> >non-doublespeed unit to increase the refresh rate.  (In other words, I
> >would like ALL my units to use higher refresh rates, even if it slightly
> >affects performance).
>
> I am not sure the terms are correct, but I really do not know for sure, so
> I won't comment with any authority. I do not think that refresh rate has
> anything to do with the contrast of the LCD screen, but again, this is not
> my expertise and I would love to learn.
>
>

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At 10/9/02-02:46 PM, you wrote:
>Thanks for the help,  but I know about the -/+ keys.

Ok, I was not sure.

>I am really refering to when both palmtops are at thier optimal settings
>(using -/+) the doublespeed is still significantly sharper. (for lack of a
>better word).  Basically easier to read in limited light.

I believe what you see is the differences among the screens. THAT i have
seen. HP used more than one source for the screens and some are nicer to
read than others, all else being equal. I have 5 palmtops and two of them
seem "greener" than the rest, and the 1000CX screen seems more "golden".

This is not adjustable AFAIK by software, more by luck - get enough
palmtops until you find the "best looking" screen and then replace the innards.

>I really am quite sure it is due to the higher refresh rate of the
>doublespeed.  I will have to mess with the drivers to see if i can boost the
>refresh on a normal unit.

Let us know. I really was not aware that the LCD contrast is affected by
the speedup. It is always good to learn something new.

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Hi,=20
I have a DS(and backlighted) unit and i think that it is possible to =
change the refresh rate by the DOTCLK.COM + parameter 0-255.
It also have influence to speed of the HP.

Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: Avi Meshar [mailto:hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:13 PM
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: DoubleSpeed Upgrades and LX Displays.


At 10/9/02-02:46 PM, you wrote:
>Thanks for the help,  but I know about the -/+ keys.

Ok, I was not sure.

>I am really refering to when both palmtops are at thier optimal =
settings
>(using -/+) the doublespeed is still significantly sharper. (for lack =
of a
>better word).  Basically easier to read in limited light.

I believe what you see is the differences among the screens. THAT i have
seen. HP used more than one source for the screens and some are nicer to
read than others, all else being equal. I have 5 palmtops and two of =
them
seem "greener" than the rest, and the 1000CX screen seems more "golden".

This is not adjustable AFAIK by software, more by luck - get enough
palmtops until you find the "best looking" screen and then replace the =
innards.

>I really am quite sure it is due to the higher refresh rate of the
>doublespeed.  I will have to mess with the drivers to see if i can =
boost the
>refresh on a normal unit.

Let us know. I really was not aware that the LCD contrast is affected by
the speedup. It is always good to learn something new.

avi

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Wed, 09.10.02 11:15 PM +0200

Hi friends,

since I noticed that some people get impatient about the backlight
upgrade, please stand by and don't do anything you might regret later!
I mean, don't do a backlight upgrade by yourself as long as you are not
totally sure you CAN really do it. There are so many sensitive parts in
the palmtop, which could be damaged.

I'm just working on a detailed instruction sheet on how to do the
upgrade based on the parts coming with the backlight upgrade kit, which
will be available soon. This sheet will describe each single step in
detail, so that it should not be too hard to do the upgrade. And - I
repeat: There will probably be even upgrading service available, so wait
some more time, please. It is not only me controlling the progress, and
I have so many other things to do currently. So it can take some more
weeks or even months until the kit and service is available.

But it will.

GTX
daniel

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Hi everyone,

Could someone recommend a good text editor preferrably system manager
compliant (exm program).  I need it to be able to open multiple files
simultaneously (most of the time 3 files will be open).  The text files
will not be longer than 100K each and will average usually 50k long.  I
will be cutting and pasting between text files and the built-in database
and/or phonebook (hence the need of the program to be sms compliant).

Any recommendations?  Many thanks in advance.

Oliver

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PE or PalEdit, is not EXM but will cust and paste just fine (it is NOT
necessary to be an EXM to cut and paste!). You can have as many files open
as your memory will allow (some small pieces are used to track the files)
and as to size - whatever can fit on your disk. I had several files EACH
several MEGABYTES open. Cutting and pasting worked fine, too.

Best place to download: D&A Website http;//www.dasoft.com - second line
click on file index, search or scroll to PE.ZIP. 2 locations:
ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/PE/pe.zip   and the nirror:

http://alwaysafe.com/dasoft/public_ftp/PE/pe.zip

May as well pick up PICK.ZIP while at it. Enjoy.

Avi



At 10/9/02-05:50 PM, you wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>
>Could someone recommend a good text editor preferrably system manager
>compliant (exm program).  I need it to be able to open multiple files
>simultaneously (most of the time 3 files will be open).  The text files
>will not be longer than 100K each and will average usually 50k long.  I
>will be cutting and pasting between text files and the built-in database
>and/or phonebook (hence the need of the program to be sms compliant).
>
>Any recommendations?  Many thanks in advance.
>
>Oliver
>
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Hi,

Does anyone know how to change the color settings of Family Scrap Book? It's
hard to make out anything on the LX's mono screen. Any help would be great.


Thanks in advance.

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Avi Meshar wrote:
> I have really not ever seen ANY difference in CONTRAST between double speed
> units and single speed units.

My 2X LX's display is poorer than both my 1X units.
Judging by past comments on a similar thread mine is an
exception, but it does exist.

Cheers... Russ

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Sorry to hear about your mishap......don't do anything
rash.....leave the device to dry thoroughly for
several weeks and then try it.....I've heard of
people who have dropped devices like this into
water/toilets/etc. and have let them dry for
about a month and they worked.

The key is to let it dry completely inside and
out.    Don't try using it until it is
completely dry.......just put the device away
and try it again around November 10th.


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>>Could someone recommend a good text editor preferrably system manager
>>compliant (exm program).  I need it to be able to open multiple files

the only .exm editor that comes to my mind is freyja i believe it comes in
both flavors .exm or .exe, if it can handle multiple open files i dont
remember

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>>I did a very dumb thing yesterday...I dumped a glass of water on my
>>200LX

it happens to the best of us, when it happened to me i waited days for the
unit to dry out when it still didnt work i sent it to hp they sent it back
saying the machine was unrepairable just for the heck of it i plugged it in
and to my surprise the machine worked and gave me a year or two more of
service. my suggestion is to let it dry longer before giving up on it

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02h15m ago Russel Brooks wrote:

> My 2X LX's display is poorer than both my 1X units.
> Judging by past comments on a similar thread mine is an
> exception, but it does exist.

Russ, I don't suppose a shit-ctrl-r makes any improvement?

SHIFT-CTRL-R     - Shift through 40,50,60,90,119Hz screen
                   refresh rates

SHIFT-CTRL-N     - Returns refresh, screen off, and slow mode
                   to normal

I tried this here, and found the normal mode to be clearest.

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31m ago Larry Tachna wrote:

> the only .exm editor that comes to my mind is freyja i
> believe it comes in both flavors .exm or .exe, if it can
> handle multiple open files i dont remember

Freyja! Brings back memories. It will do up to 11
files at once. The .exm needs over 300K under sysman I think.
One program I never used, but wanted to. Then, along came
PalEdit :) I wonder if anyone here uses Freyja?

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There are differences in the quality of screens - in the sense that there
are several sources for them, but I really doubt that the DSing of Palmtops
makes ANY difference in screen quality (aside of course from the case where
you run a DS without the DS software...) This is what I meant. I may have
expressed myself in a way that confused, sorry.

Avi

At 10/9/02-07:03 PM, you wrote:
>Avi Meshar wrote:
> > I have really not ever seen ANY difference in CONTRAST between double speed
> > units and single speed units.
>
>My 2X LX's display is poorer than both my 1X units.
>Judging by past comments on a similar thread mine is an
>exception, but it does exist.
>
>Cheers... Russ
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Tony, Which version of SPD31 do you use for these commands? (I changed a
word in your message, my Editor complained it was too loose language to
post in public <G>)

At 10/9/02-09:24 PM, you wrote:
>--
>02h15m ago Russel Brooks wrote:
>
> > My 2X LX's display is poorer than both my 1X units.
> > Judging by past comments on a similar thread mine is an
> > exception, but it does exist.
>
>Russ, I don't suppose a shiFt-ctrl-r makes any improvement?
>
>SHIFT-CTRL-R     - Shift through 40,50,60,90,119Hz screen
>                    refresh rates
>
>SHIFT-CTRL-N     - Returns refresh, screen off, and slow mode
>                    to normal
>
>I tried this here, and found the normal mode to be clearest.
>
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On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Tony Hutchins wrote:
> 02h15m ago Russel Brooks wrote:
> > My 2X LX's display is poorer than both my 1X units.
> > Judging by past comments on a similar thread mine is an
> > exception, but it does exist.
>
> Russ, I don't suppose a shit-ctrl-r makes any improvement?
>
> SHIFT-CTRL-R     - Shift through 40,50,60,90,119Hz screen
>                    refresh rates
>
> SHIFT-CTRL-N     - Returns refresh, screen off, and slow mode
>                    to normal
>
> I tried this here, and found the normal mode to be clearest.

Which speed is normal? In my case I found 1 or 2 ctrl-shift-r's
after a Ctrl-shift-n made the blacks a little blacker, and
therefore clearer. A third gave it a noticeable flicker and
faded black areas, so I'm assuming this would be 40, making
normal 60, and the clearer ones 90 and 119. Oddly, at the 119,
in one of my software carousel sessions, the screen has a
horizontal line near the base of every character row. This only
happens in the one session. I think I will try it at 90 for a
while. Is there any downside to running at the faster refresh?

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Hi Avi

01h11m ago Avi Meshar wrote:

> There are differences in the quality of screens - in the sense that there
> are several sources for them, but I really doubt that the DSing of Palmtops

I believe that Hitachi was the only source for screens. I have seen
many screens and so far all were made by Hitachi (these with good
contrast and these with bad contrast, these with a greenish background
and these with dreyish background...).
I rather think that Hitachi simply improved the quality of their
displays over time.

GTX
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Hi Tamas

5 days 13h03m ago Feher Tamas wrote:

> - One is called the AVR ethernet controller, designed by a japanese electronics
> enthusiast. It consists of one only three active elements: the Realtek 8019AS
> ethernet chip, one ATMEGA163-8PC (a 8-bit/16k risc microcontroller) and a MAX238
> serial port ic. On one end it has 10megabit TX ethernet, the other end is plain
> 9-pin serial. And a complete design layout is provided for free. Could it be
> used by the palmtop?

This sounds like it would need a special driver. If the developer
offers a DOS driver or at least describes the protocol used on the
serial port, it could be done.

> - The other thingie is called the DECServer 90TL. This is a book-sized box, that
> accepts up to 7 serial devices (at 57.6kbps max) and provides them with access
> to ethernet tcp/ip networks over PPP. Sorrowfully it has only a BNC (coax)
> ethernet output, so you need some converter to plug it into todays twisted pair
> networks. (Some cheaper HUBs still have one BNC connector, however).
> The interesting issue is, this box would theoretically allow you to use the same
> connection method (PPP) to internet when you are at home/office or on the road.
> I just got one DEC 90TL, so I could test or lend it to someone to test.

Since this thing incorporates a PPP server, it can probably be used
out-of-the-box with all programs providing a TCP/IP stack over PPP,
that is almost all comm programs: WWW/LX, DOSPPP, LXTCP etc.

GTX
daniel

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04h04m ago Larry Tachna wrote:

> it happens to the best of us, when it happened to me i waited days for the
> unit to dry out when it still didnt work i sent it to hp they sent it back
> saying the machine was unrepairable just for the heck of it i plugged it in
> and to my surprise the machine worked and gave me a year or two more of
> service. my suggestion is to let it dry longer before giving up on it

Either dry longer, or, better, take the keyboard apart. I think that if
keypresses are not recognized, there might be water between the screen
foils, and it may be hard and may take a very somg time to let it dry
there without taking it apart.

On http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair/dismantle.shtml there is a
description how to take the keyboard entirely apart. It's not too
difficult, but it is time consuming. Especially reassembling is time
consuming, every single one of the plastic pins between the keys (about
100-150 pins I guess) must be pressed back into its hole again. And
that without breaking the sensitive key grid.

GTX
daniel

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Could be! We were told there were several vendors. The point is still
valid: There are screen that are of exquisite quality and those that are of
lesser quality. Indepndent of any software.

I am amazed to find out that the screen can be refreshed at different rates
- that floors me! I wish I had that software. Is it on SUPER among the
latest you got from Mack?

Avi

At 10/10/02-01:51 AM, you wrote:
>Hi Avi
>
>01h11m ago Avi Meshar wrote:
>
> > There are differences in the quality of screens - in the sense that there
> > are several sources for them, but I really doubt that the DSing of Palmtops
>
>I believe that Hitachi was the only source for screens. I have seen
>many screens and so far all were made by Hitachi (these with good
>contrast and these with bad contrast, these with a greenish background
>and these with dreyish background...).
>I rather think that Hitachi simply improved the quality of their
>displays over time.
>
>GTX
>daniel
>
>
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02h08m ago Avi Meshar wrote:

> Tony, Which version of SPD31 do you use for these
> commands?

2.0b

Dated January 2001.

(I changed a word in your message, my Editor
> complained it was too loose language to post in public <G>)

Thanks Avi! Ahha, yes, the "F".

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01h02m ago Michael Kopplin wrote:

> Which speed is normal?

I don't know, but noticed similar effects to you - and agree
that normal speed is likely to be 60.
[...]

>Is there any downside to running at the faster refresh?

I don't know. Maybe it uses slightly more power?

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>>Freyja! Brings back memories. It will do up to 11
>>files at once. The .exm needs over 300K under sysman I think.
>>One program I never used, but wanted to. Then, along came
>>PalEdit :) I wonder if anyone here uses Freyja?

I dont remember many details about freyja other than i used it for a while
and for a reason i cant remember switched to qedit and than tse which i
still use even on my windows machine today

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Hi Larry,

I know Freyja is on super and i just downloaded it but did you personally
use it?  I also want peoples' personal opinion/preference?

Oliver

Larry Tachna blah, blah, blahed ...
>the only .exm editor that comes to my mind is freyja i believe it comes in
>both flavors .exm or .exe, if it can handle multiple open files i dont
>remember
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Hi Mike

07h43m ago Michael Kopplin wrote:

> > SHIFT-CTRL-R     - Shift through 40,50,60,90,119Hz screen
> >                    refresh rates
> >
> > SHIFT-CTRL-N     - Returns refresh, screen off, and slow mode
> >                    to normal
>
> Which speed is normal? In my case I found 1 or 2 ctrl-shift-r's
> after a Ctrl-shift-n made the blacks a little blacker, and
> therefore clearer. A third gave it a noticeable flicker and
> faded black areas, so I'm assuming this would be 40, making
> normal 60, and the clearer ones 90 and 119. Oddly, at the 119,

Here I get the flicker after the second Sh-Ctrl-R, so normal seems to
be 90 Hz. I assume choosing a higher rate reduces CPU processing speed.
Can the 119Uz be chosen by default in some way, with a command line
parameter for example?

GTX
daniel

> in one of my software carousel sessions, the screen has a
> horizontal line near the base of every character row. This only
> happens in the one session. I think I will try it at 90 for a
> while. Is there any downside to running at the faster refresh?
>
> Mike
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Hello,

I don't know if the swap-shop parts idea has gone anywhere, but I have been
thinking about it and I have a couple of suggestions, should it be something
the group decides to do.

These are just concepts to work with.  Sorry if I seem a bit cynical, but I
think some precautions are advisable since this is a public forum and not
all passerbys would share the groups honest and generous nature.

1) Make each part have a given number of points....Like a hinge cap would be
2 or battery door would be 8 (these are abitrary, actual values would have
to be decided on based upon how rare a part is...for example a screen would
be alot of points).  This way as people donate parts to the swap shop, they
would get a point credit (for simplicity, I don't think this would be
"refundable" should they move onto a different PDA).  That way, people who
participate will benefit.  (avoids the case where someone just asks for
parts with no donations....not that anyone in this group would ever do that,
but perhaps some unscruptulous liquidator/collector would try to take
advatage of the generous "comunity" atmosphere of the group).
2) Total points for a Palmtop parts would add up to (somewhat more) than the
average asking price for a palmtop on ebay.  By making points almost a
one-to-one relationship with a dollar, a person who is low on points could
make up the difference in cash.  Once the swap shop gets enough cash, it
could search for a good deal on a complete unit (to use as parts) on Ebay.
(The reason the points should add up to more than the price of a palmtop is
becuase some parts will almost never be used and others (such as screen,
motherboard, etc) would be in very high demand (causing a constant
shortage).
3) A complete list of all parts (and points) would ALWAYS be available to
the group....basically an "Open Book" policy.  This gives donators secure
knowledge that what they give is accounted for and shows all users what is
in need.
4) Users might need to be limited  to those registered in the user database
(yeah, okay, I know I am not in the database).  This gives swappers real
identities and again, limits ability for outsiders to scam the swap-shop.
5) Points may need to be adjusted yearly to account for replacement costs of
complete units (for parts) on Ebay....Prices change, so points would have to
as well.
6) Once a swap-shop is started all donators on record would be able to vote
on changes to swap-shop policy.  Ensuring that the people that make the
swap-shop possible (the donators) have a say in how the parts are handled.
7) Multiple swap shops could be setup in different parts of the world to
reduce overseas shipping costs.  The swap shops would swap between each
other to maintain inventory and ship munltiple parts in a single shipment.

First of all,  I think a poll of interest (and who could donate what) should
be done to see if enough interest exists.

Regards,
Eric


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Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 6:44 AM
Subject: Swap-Shop (was: Re: clanky space-bar)


> >Very good idea! Someone should set up something like that!
>
> If nobody started working on that right away, I could setup something...
> (Any suggestions about the layout would be appreciated)
> >
> >> it is Daniel: reliable, resouceful, never says "no", trustworthy, and
...
> >no.
>
> Yes you are, you proved it more than once ;-)
>
> >Too busy with my diploma thesis, last few exams and the
> >backlight project. No chance.
>
> I could start it and transfer the swap-list to you whenever you want to
take over, so you all don't have to memorize another URL...
>
> >> domesticated.
>
> Maybe I should interview your wife ;-))
>
> regards,
> Oliver
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> I believe that Hitachi was the only source for screens. I have
seen
> many screens and so far all were made by Hitachi (these with good
> contrast and these with bad contrast, these with a greenish
background
> and these with dreyish background...).
> I rather think that Hitachi simply improved the quality of their
> displays over time.

The unit I have with the best screen is my 100lx, bought long
before there were 200lxs.

The worst screen is my first 200lx.  The next one, bought about 2
years later, is excellent.  The best is the one I bought used so I
don't know how old it is.

I really suspect it was just a difference in production runs.

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> Hi Larry,
>
> I know Freyja is on super and i just downloaded it but did you
personally
> use it?  I also want peoples' personal opinion/preference?

I used Freyja on the 95 for a while but I found it confusing.  I
guess I was just too used to qedit.

qedit can be windowed to fit the screen exactly and macros can be
used to change it when you change screen resolutions.  There are
occasional glitches in this but for the most part it works very
smoothly.  And the glitches never take more than a couple of
seconds to correct.

Barry

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Thanks Daniel,
I am looking forward to your information.
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Sorry for the duplicate.  But I posted this under the wrong Subject
previously.

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> Hello,
>
> I don't know if the swap-shop parts idea has gone anywhere, but I have
been
> thinking about it and I have a couple of suggestions, should it be
something
> the group decides to do.
>
> These are just concepts to work with.  Sorry if I seem a bit cynical, but
I
> think some precautions are advisable since this is a public forum and not
> all passerbys would share the groups honest and generous nature.
>
> 1) Make each part have a given number of points....Like a hinge cap would
be
> 2 or battery door would be 8 (these are abitrary, actual values would have
> to be decided on based upon how rare a part is...for example a screen
would
> be alot of points).  This way as people donate parts to the swap shop,
they
> would get a point credit (for simplicity, I don't think this would be
> "refundable" should they move onto a different PDA).  That way, people who
> participate will benefit.  (avoids the case where someone just asks for
> parts with no donations....not that anyone in this group would ever do
that,
> but perhaps some unscruptulous liquidator/collector would try to take
> advatage of the generous "comunity" atmosphere of the group).
> 2) Total points for a Palmtop parts would add up to (somewhat more) than
the
> average asking price for a palmtop on ebay.  By making points almost a
> one-to-one relationship with a dollar, a person who is low on points could
> make up the difference in cash.  Once the swap shop gets enough cash, it
> could search for a good deal on a complete unit (to use as parts) on Ebay.
> (The reason the points should add up to more than the price of a palmtop
is
> becuase some parts will almost never be used and others (such as screen,
> motherboard, etc) would be in very high demand (causing a constant
> shortage).
> 3) A complete list of all parts (and points) would ALWAYS be available to
> the group....basically an "Open Book" policy.  This gives donators secure
> knowledge that what they give is accounted for and shows all users what is
> in need.
> 4) Users might need to be limited  to those registered in the user
database
> (yeah, okay, I know I am not in the database).  This gives swappers real
> identities and again, limits ability for outsiders to scam the swap-shop.
> 5) Points may need to be adjusted yearly to account for replacement costs
of
> complete units (for parts) on Ebay....Prices change, so points would have
to
> as well.
> 6) Once a swap-shop is started all donators on record would be able to
vote
> on changes to swap-shop policy.  Ensuring that the people that make the
> swap-shop possible (the donators) have a say in how the parts are handled.
> 7) Multiple swap shops could be setup in different parts of the world to
> reduce overseas shipping costs.  The swap shops would swap between each
> other to maintain inventory and ship munltiple parts in a single shipment.
>
> First of all,  I think a poll of interest (and who could donate what)
should
> be done to see if enough interest exists.
>
> Regards,
> Eric
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Oliver Leibenguth" <oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 6:44 AM
> Subject: Swap-Shop (was: Re: clanky space-bar)
>
>
> > >Very good idea! Someone should set up something like that!
> >
> > If nobody started working on that right away, I could setup something...
> > (Any suggestions about the layout would be appreciated)
> > >
> > >> it is Daniel: reliable, resouceful, never says "no", trustworthy, and
> ...
> > >no.
> >
> > Yes you are, you proved it more than once ;-)
> >
> > >Too busy with my diploma thesis, last few exams and the
> > >backlight project. No chance.
> >
> > I could start it and transfer the swap-list to you whenever you want to
> take over, so you all don't have to memorize another URL...
> >
> > >> domesticated.
> >
> > Maybe I should interview your wife ;-))
> >
> > regards,
> > Oliver
> >

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Aren't we all !

8-)

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> Thanks Daniel,
> I am looking forward to your information.
> Uli
>
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Sorry again for the duplicate !!  (I cleaned up the formatting on the
message.)

Hello,

I don't know if the swap-shop parts idea has gone anywhere, but I have been
thinking about it and I have a couple of suggestions, should it be something
the group decides to do.

These are just concepts to work with.  Sorry if I seem a bit cynical, but I
think some precautions are advisable since this is a public forum and not
all passerbys would share the groups honest and generous nature.

1) Make each part have a given number of points....Like a hinge cap would be
2 or battery door would be 8 (these are abitrary, actual values would have
to be decided on based upon how rare a part is...for example a screen would
be alot of points).  This way as people donate parts to the swap shop, they
would get a point credit (for simplicity, I don't think this would be
"refundable" should they move onto a different PDA).  That way, people who
participate will benefit.  (avoids the case where someone just asks for
parts with no donations....not that anyone in this group would ever do that,
but perhaps some unscruptulous liquidator/collector would try to take
advatage of the generous "comunity" atmosphere of the group).
2) Total points for a Palmtop parts would add up to (somewhat more) than the
average asking price for a palmtop on ebay.  By making points almost a
one-to-one relationship with a dollar, a person who is low on points could
make up the difference in cash.  Once the swap shop gets enough cash, it
could search for a good deal on a complete unit (to use as parts) on Ebay.
(The reason the points should add up to more than the price of a palmtop is
becuase some parts will almost never be used and others (such as screen,
motherboard, etc) would be in very high demand (causing a constant
shortage).
3) A complete list of all parts (and points) would ALWAYS be available to
the group....basically an "Open Book" policy.  This gives donators secure
knowledge that what they give is accounted for and shows all users what is
in need.
4) Users might need to be limited  to those registered in the user database
(yeah, okay, I know I am not in the database).  This gives swappers real
identities and again, limits ability for outsiders to scam the swap-shop.
5) Points may need to be adjusted yearly to account for replacement costs of
complete units (for parts) on Ebay....Prices change, so points would have to
as well.
6) Once a swap-shop is started all donators on record would be able to vote
on changes to swap-shop policy.  Ensuring that the people that make the
swap-shop possible (the donators) have a say in how the parts are handled.
7) Multiple swap shops could be setup in different parts of the world to
reduce overseas shipping costs.  The swap shops would swap between each
other to maintain inventory and ship munltiple parts in a single shipment.

First of all,  I think a poll of interest (and who could donate what) should
be done to see if enough interest exists.

Regards,
Eric


----- Original Message -----
From: "Oliver Leibenguth" <oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 6:44 AM
Subject: Swap-Shop (was: Re: clanky space-bar)


> >Very good idea! Someone should set up something like that!
>
> If nobody started working on that right away, I could setup something...
> (Any suggestions about the layout would be appreciated)
> >
> >> it is Daniel: reliable, resouceful, never says "no", trustworthy, and
...
> >no.
>
> Yes you are, you proved it more than once ;-)
>
> >Too busy with my diploma thesis, last few exams and the
> >backlight project. No chance.
>
> I could start it and transfer the swap-list to you whenever you want to
take over, so you all don't have to memorize another URL...
>
> >> domesticated.
>
> Maybe I should interview your wife ;-))
>
> regards,
> Oliver
>
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>

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Hello,

Rudi is having problems posting to the forum, so Ii thought I would pass
along this info he provided on setting the refresh rate on a non-doublespeed
unit.

Thanks again Rudi !

Regards,
Eric

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nan-shan Chen" <chen@get.uni-paderborn.de>
>
>    lxstat D[isplay] F[rame]
>
> The the letter [F] was a mnemonic for "frame rate"
> instead of "fresh". But I think it is self-documented
> in lxstat which can be triggered by e.g.
>
>    lxstat help
>
> Regards
> Rudi

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02h35m ago Barry wrote:

> I used Freyja on the 95 for a while but I found it confusing.
> I guess I was just too used to qedit.

I just tried Freyja (3.0) again and here could not get it out
of 40 column mode, even with zooming. But I'm sure it must
have users as it is mentioned quite a lot. VDE is also quite
popular. FWIW I mainly use TSE on the desktop and PalEdit on
the palmtop.

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Avi Meshar wrote:
> There are differences in the quality of screens - in the sense that there
> are several sources for them, but I really doubt that the DSing of Palmtops
> makes ANY difference in screen quality (aside of course from the case where
> you run a DS without the DS software...) This is what I meant. I may have
> expressed myself in a way that confused, sorry.

Avi, I'm trying remember what the screen looked like before I
the LX upgraded and I don't think it was great but the 2X
upgrade made it worse.

It is also one of those displays that is totally unreadable
without the speed driver.  All you can are grey smeared lines of
txt at the beginning of the boot process.

Cheers... Russ

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Tony Hutchins wrote:
> Russ, I don't suppose a shit-ctrl-r makes any improvement?
>
> SHIFT-CTRL-R     - Shift through 40,50,60,90,119Hz screen
>                    refresh rates
>
> SHIFT-CTRL-N     - Returns refresh, screen off, and slow mode
>                    to normal
>
> I tried this here, and found the normal mode to be clearest.

Tony,
I can't see much difference between them.  Which one is the
default after boot?

I went back and read the T2T doc (SPD31.TXT 3-14-01) to learn
more about the features I've never played with.

It also mentions Shift-Ctrl-W toggles New Low Power Mode.  What
is this?  I couldn't find anymore reference to Low Power
anything in the rest of the doc.

Cheers... Russ

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01h20m ago Russel Brooks wrote:

> Tony,
> I can't see much difference between them.  Which one is the
> default after boot?

I'm not sure - 60 or 90

> I went back and read the T2T doc (SPD31.TXT 3-14-01) to learn
> more about the features I've never played with.
>
> It also mentions Shift-Ctrl-W toggles New Low Power Mode.
> What is this?  I couldn't find anymore reference to Low
> Power anything in the rest of the doc.

I never found out what that was. We need Mack to tell, or
maybe one of the beta testers. It sounds useful though.

All I know is I use

device=c:\spd31.exe /M /C /K /B /N

and it works great. I must be tempting fate but I've often had
the 2.0 volts hit and needed to zoom around & find my charger,
but never lost a byte!
--
-Tony
Backups?  We don' *NEED* no steenking baX%^~,VbKx.
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Wow!

You put a lot of thought into this(!).

I like the idea. ... As for the "open book" policy, I'm for that, as long as
it's not out there on a web page that can be scanned/cataloged by search
engines, or viewed by the general public [to keep Spam down and privacy up].

I'm just taking a quick look at this and may've missed something in another
post or two, but who's volunteering to be "swap shop central storage and
tracking points"? Could be a bit of work and need some space (enough to
store things in organized bins, above the basement flood lines, etc.).... [I
can see there were LOTS of snipped-in pieces of conversation; so much of
that may've been answered].

Interesting project!

re:
> First of all,  I think a poll of interest (and who could donate what)
should
> be done to see if enough interest exists.
>
> Regards,
> Eric

Well, HIGH interest, unsure what I'd have for the "bin" ...

I don't "need" much right now and I can see that tempering how much I'm
willing to part with(!). Human nature, I suppose. I mean, If I broke my
screen, hinge and btty. door, I might be able to "donate" (swap) a whole
100LX to get my 200LX back on line (the repairs would be above me though,
and I'd need someone to do the repairs then ... That would be beyond the
scope of the swap shop, wouldn't it?). On the same line of thinking: If I
needed a btty door, I might only want to trade an IR cover....

Does that sound like "normal" human behavior [please, no "psychology flames"
I'm not asking if anyone thinks *I'M* normal <grin>]. And, would that sort
of "offer based on need" behavior limit the effectiveness of the swap shop?

--tim

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Tim,

I believe Oliver (oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE) volanteered to run the swap-shop.  So
I guess he would be the person to ask about how he wants to handle it (or if
he indeed is still interested in handling it at all).  My suggestions were
just that....suggestions.  I was just considering the issues involved since
his original post.

Like I said in my earlier post, I think it would useful to see how much
total interest (and tentative donations) we would have to start the
swap-shop....I mean if no one wants to donate anything then the whole idea
is pretty much unlikely to get off the ground. And you bring up a good point
about human nature....there is a pretty good chance that display,
motherboard, keyboard, or other hand-to-find items may not get donated.  We
could end up with 125 IR doors and nothing else 8-)

Also, it seems that alot people have backup units and take care of thier own
spare-parts needs, so there really may not be much interest.

Then again, perhaps instead of donating parts, people might want to instead
donate a small amount of cash that would go toward immediately purchasing
units for spare-parts inventory (and give them a backup spare-parts
credit)....but again, that is just a suggestion.

Sorry, I don't have any answers, just posing questions....(which is of
course the easy part 8-)

Regards,
Eric





----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:53 PM
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> Wow!
>
> You put a lot of thought into this(!).
>
> I like the idea. ... As for the "open book" policy, I'm for that, as long
as
> it's not out there on a web page that can be scanned/cataloged by search
> engines, or viewed by the general public [to keep Spam down and privacy
up].
>
> I'm just taking a quick look at this and may've missed something in
another
> post or two, but who's volunteering to be "swap shop central storage and
> tracking points"? Could be a bit of work and need some space (enough to
> store things in organized bins, above the basement flood lines, etc.)....
[I
> can see there were LOTS of snipped-in pieces of conversation; so much of
> that may've been answered].
>
> Interesting project!
>
> re:
> > First of all,  I think a poll of interest (and who could donate what)
> should
> > be done to see if enough interest exists.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Eric
>
> Well, HIGH interest, unsure what I'd have for the "bin" ...
>
> I don't "need" much right now and I can see that tempering how much I'm
> willing to part with(!). Human nature, I suppose. I mean, If I broke my
> screen, hinge and btty. door, I might be able to "donate" (swap) a whole
> 100LX to get my 200LX back on line (the repairs would be above me though,
> and I'd need someone to do the repairs then ... That would be beyond the
> scope of the swap shop, wouldn't it?). On the same line of thinking: If I
> needed a btty door, I might only want to trade an IR cover....
>
> Does that sound like "normal" human behavior [please, no "psychology
flames"
> I'm not asking if anyone thinks *I'M* normal <grin>]. And, would that sort
> of "offer based on need" behavior limit the effectiveness of the swap
shop?
>
> --tim
>
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>

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>I believe Oliver (oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE) volanteered to run the swap-shop.  So
>I guess he would be the person to ask about how he wants to handle it (or if
>he indeed is still interested in handling it at all).

I'm still interested in doing it ;-)

I had a different thing in mind:
Why not putting up a simple list where anyone can offer the parts he doesn't need and the price he wants for it?
Much like:
"I (foo@bar.com) offer part X and want X$ or part Y for it. Contact me for details."

That's just another idea, I'm willing to put up that swapshop the way the majority of readers want it, as long as I can program it (plain html preferred). I can provide the necessary webspace and a domain-name that's unknown to spammers. I can even
password-protect the pages as soon as I learned to fiddle with htaccess.

regards,
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I think so yes ;)

[n]
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> Aren't we all !
>
> 8-)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Uli Allen" <Ulrich.Allen@GMX.DE>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:10 PM
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>
>
> > Thanks Daniel,
> > I am looking forward to your information.
> > Uli
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Hi Avi,

I just scanned the documents of PE.  Although a DOS program, it seems
capable of sharing clipboard information with Notetaker and Database.  I
will play around with it tonite.  Thank you for your recommendation.

Oliver

>Date:    Wed, 9 Oct 2002 17:10:31 -0500
>From:    Avi Meshar <hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM>
>Subject: Re: text editor
>
>PE or PalEdit, is not EXM but will cust and paste just fine (it is NOT
>necessary to be an EXM to cut and paste!). You can have as many files open
>as your memory will allow (some small pieces are used to track the files)
>and as to size - whatever can fit on your disk. I had several files EACH
>several MEGABYTES open. Cutting and pasting worked fine, too.

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Oliver,

I think you have the better idea.

Very straightforward and easy to maintain.

I didn't get a chance to check that link, but perhaps we could just add a
part where other users can show what they need and (possibly) what they
could trade/pay for it.

I like your idea much better.

Regards,
Eric
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oliver Leibenguth" <oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE>
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Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:53 AM
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> >I believe Oliver (oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE) volanteered to run the swap-shop.
So
> >I guess he would be the person to ask about how he wants to handle it (or
if
> >he indeed is still interested in handling it at all).
>
> I'm still interested in doing it ;-)
>
> I had a different thing in mind:
> Why not putting up a simple list where anyone can offer the parts he
doesn't need and the price he wants for it?
> Much like:
> "I (foo@bar.com) offer part X and want X$ or part Y for it. Contact me for
details."
>
> That's just another idea, I'm willing to put up that swapshop the way the
majority of readers want it, as long as I can program it (plain html
preferred). I can provide the necessary webspace and a domain-name that's
unknown to spammers. I can even password-protect the pages as soon as I
learned to fiddle with htaccess.
>
> regards,
> Oliver
>
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Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 2:26 PM
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> FWIW I mainly use TSE on the desktop and PalEdit on
> the palmtop.

I used Qedit for years before TSE became available.  As a
programmer I used it a lot and became really good with it.

I bought TSE about 2 years ago because some of the features looked
so good.  But I've never been able to get used to it.  It's too
much like Qedit and too different and I just can't seem to get used
to it.

If someone asked me about this my advice would be simply "stick to
it".  But when I try to I can't get anything done.

Has anyone else had this problem and gotten past it?

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Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:56 AM
Subject: Swap shop - PLEASE READ (formatted better)


> I don't know if the swap-shop parts idea has gone anywhere, but I
have been
> thinking about it and I have a couple of suggestions, should it
be something
> the group decides to do.

> 1) Make each part have a given number of points....Like a hinge
cap would be
> 2 or battery door would be 8 (these are abitrary, actual values
would have
> to be decided on based upon how rare a part is...for example a
screen would
> be alot of points).  This way as people donate parts to the swap
shop, they
> would get a point credit (for simplicity, I don't think this
would be
> "refundable" should they move onto a different PDA).  That way,
people who
> participate will benefit.  (avoids the case where someone just
asks for
> parts with no donations....not that anyone in this group would
ever do that,
> but perhaps some unscruptulous liquidator/collector would try to
take
> advatage of the generous "comunity" atmosphere of the group).

Ok, here's a for-instance:

I have a 200lx 1 meg that works just fine except that fully charged
NiMH batteries last a little more than a day even if the unit isn't
used.  Let's say I decided to put this in the bin.

How could points possibly be determined for it?  I doubt that
anyone knows what's wrong or how easily it might be repaired.  It's
usable as it is but not useful.  Would this be a palmtop sans
motherboard?  etc.

I'm not asking for a deal on this.  I've been thinking of sending
it to Thaddeus for repair when my finances improve a little.  But
there'll be other situations like this and others even less
clear-cut.

What to do?  I think before any plan like this actually goes into
effect there has to be a solid plan to deal with problematic
situations like this.

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>>Has anyone else had this problem and gotten past it?

not me i had no problem switching and even use tse on my windows machine
from sendto menu

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Barry,

I think Oliver had the better idea in that the swap shop would be much
simpler if you could post what you need and what you are willing to swap
and/or pay for it.

This does incur other problems if you are not sure what is wrong the unit,
or if you are uncomfortable disassembling the unit.  (although Daniel has
some great pages on hardware issues).

The swap-shop is NOT intended to replace the excellent service done by
Thaddeus, just more to handle minor (user-fixable) needs of the group.  For
issues such as yours, you would need to either get more comfortable with
hardware (and diagnostics as well, considering your problem), or go with you
original idea of sending it to Thaddeus.

Since any modification to the palmtop risks it's destruction, a serious
problem is best handled (for most users) by the experts at Thaddeus as (I
believe) they warranty thier work for an additional 90 days as well....not
to mention they have a flat rate for repairs.

I think the swap-shop and Thaddues would together serve useful (but very
different) purposes, depending on the severity of the problem and the
technical skills of the palmtop owner.

Regards,
Eric


----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
<snip>

> Ok, here's a for-instance:
>
> I have a 200lx 1 meg that works just fine except that fully charged
> NiMH batteries last a little more than a day even if the unit isn't
> used.  Let's say I decided to put this in the bin.
>
> How could points possibly be determined for it?  I doubt that
> anyone knows what's wrong or how easily it might be repaired.  It's
> usable as it is but not useful.  Would this be a palmtop sans
> motherboard?  etc.
>
> I'm not asking for a deal on this.  I've been thinking of sending
> it to Thaddeus for repair when my finances improve a little.  But
> there'll be other situations like this and others even less
> clear-cut.
>
> What to do?  I think before any plan like this actually goes into
> effect there has to be a solid plan to deal with problematic
> situations like this.
>
> Barry
>

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Good Afternoon All:
On the advise of many on this list I took the keyboard apart and
amazingly found no liquid after 3 days. But there was a *residue* on
the keyboard grid. So I carefully cleaned the grid and put the LX back
together. The disassembly of the keyboard was easier then I originally
thought.
But, still no keyboard input at this point! So I let it sit on the
date/time/owner info init screen. BTW, the clock is counting to that
seems encouraging.
I let it sit and leaned over and touched a number key and it appeared
on the screen. I continued filling out the screen and went to the
program manager were the keyboard locked up. Now no keys worked. So I
removed the batteries (main and BU) and tried restarting.
It is currently sitting on the time question and no kbd entry is
possible.
So now the question is.......what is making the 200LX intermittent???
I checked the keyboard connection area again and all appears ok.
BTW, I have enjoyed some of the posts. Especially the possibility of a
display backlight. I have thought many times that it was possible to
place 4 T-1 high brightness white (or green) LEDs to light the display
which could be controlled by a micro slide switch in the case.
Regards,

Jack Skelley
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New Jersey Devils Hockey Club
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Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Swap shop


> Barry,
>
> I think Oliver had the better idea in that the swap shop would be
much
> simpler if you could post what you need and what you are willing
to swap
> and/or pay for it.

I agree.

> This does incur other problems if you are not sure what is wrong
the unit,
> or if you are uncomfortable disassembling the unit.  (although
Daniel has
> some great pages on hardware issues).

Never hoppen!!!  :)

> The swap-shop is NOT intended to replace the excellent service
done by
> Thaddeus, just more to handle minor (user-fixable) needs of the
group.  For
> issues such as yours, you would need to either get more
comfortable with
> hardware (and diagnostics as well, considering your problem), or
go with you
> original idea of sending it to Thaddeus.

I understand that.  I wasn't looking for information, really.  I
was pointing out a potential problem with the plan that was being
discussed.  Something I thought would have to be dealt with.

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Subject: RE: text editor


> >>Has anyone else had this problem and gotten past it?
>
> not me i had no problem switching and even use tse on my windows
machine
> from sendto menu

I have that set up, too.  I bought the 16 bit and the 32 bit
version.  Oh well. :)

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> I am amazed to find out that the screen can be refreshed at different
rates
> - that floors me! I wish I had that software. Is it on SUPER among the
> latest you got from Mack?
>
> Avi

LXSTAT can do this for you:

lxstat d f [value]

...where "value" is in Hz. But I never saw a real advantage to this in my
display quality. Maybe I have one of th better Hitachi LCDs.

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At 10/11/02-06:18 AM, Oliver wrote:
>Hi Avi,
>
>I just scanned the documents of PE.  Although a DOS program, it seems

More than "seems" - it was designed to do it. If you run it OUTSIDE system
manager (as I always use it) then you cannot share with notebook or
databases because there are no notebook or database app alive at that
point. But inside sysmgr no problems.

>capable of sharing clipboard information with Notetaker and Database.  I
>will play around with it tonite.  Thank you for your recommendation.

You are welcome. Enjoy the play.

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>>I have that set up, too.  I bought the 16 bit and the 32 bit
>>version.  Oh well. :)

thats a thought get the 32 bit version for the windows machine lol are they
still around?

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--
04h10m ago Bruce Martin wrote:

> LXSTAT can do this for you:
>
> lxstat d f [value]

Thanks Bruce - made me get the latest lxstat from Super. I
didn't realise this was a new feature. And it tells me that
the normal refresh rate is 90 hz for both single/double speed
units. The shift+ctrl+r with spd31 jumps first to 119 and then
cycles 40,50,60,90.

One unit I have really likes the 119 - another develops lines,
with the rate above 100.

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> One unit I have really likes the 119 - another develops lines,
> with the rate above 100.

Okay,  I am curious....what do you that it really likes 119?

Is the text "sharper"?

(Or Is it smiling now? 8-)


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I am on vacation until monday 21-oct-2002.  Your letter has not been
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Listers-
Rob Lewis wrote to ask if there had been a follow-up to my experience
with Prolink's (aka Alex Domingues) offering of HP 200LX's on eBay.
Since I originally wrote the list about this in  July-- here is more.
-Don Evans
---------------------------------10/8/02--------------------------------
Hi Rob,
With regard to Alex Domingues (Prolink)--NO SATISFACTION at all.
Neither has there been  any resolution to the problem. In summary:
1- We exchanged several emails during the months of July and August.
I have inserted some copies in the trailer to this email below.
2- He sent me a second unit to replace the first, that was even worse
(missing pixels, peeling display frame, generally bad condition...).
I complained, detailing a few of the problems, and told him I was returning
the unit, and that I expected to receive a refund.
3- He responded by asking me to tell him what was wrong with the unit--
this was really strange, because I had already told him...
4- The last retutned unit reached him on August 2. Since then he has
refused to answer or acknowledge my emails.
5- Ebay has been NO HELP at all. They respond with kind words, but
insist on putting you through legal gymnastics that only serve to protect
their own butt. Much better help would be to press for some resolution.
Bottom line:
1- Use great care in deciding on where and with whom you want to do
business.
2- Do not rely on guarantees or promises from eBay-- they are worthless.
3- Seek out good people-- they are there, sometimes even in far places...
Regards,  -Don.

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 8:21 PM
To: Don Evans
Hi Don,
Did you ever receive satisfaction from Alex?  ....
Rob Lewis
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Alex-
The US Post Office informs me that you received on Friday,
August 2, your last HP 200LX unit that I returned to you.
It is now August 21.
I have heard nothing from you-- I have received no refund
from you. What gives?
So far I have posted no feedback, and taken no other actions
to remedy this. But time is running out...
I must have a response from you, Alex.
-Don Evans
----------------------------------------------------------
  No, Alex. The term MINT means something very different from
  the way you have taken it. I am also a collector of old/ancient
  objects of various sorts, and I am very aware of how others,
  both on eBay and off, interpret these terms. Date of manufacture
  has very little to do with it. If you wish to pursue the use of terms
  as they might describe the HP200LX, let me recommend to you
  Thaddeus Corp. For the last 9-10 years they have focused on
  service, repair and refurbishing of the LX machines...
  Meanwhile, you should have received your last shipped HP200LX
  back from me. Let me know when I may expect my refund.
  -Don Evans.
 -------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Prolink
To: Don Evans
Sent: 8/1/02
Don ,
For a unit that has been descontinued for over 4 years by the manufacture
they look in very good condition and I can say MINT because they have no
Flaws . Again ,before you sent it back ,  please tell me in specific details
what are the problems with the unit operationally speaking .
Thank you !
Alex.
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Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002
To: 'Prolink_attn_Alex'
Alex,
I have explained in my last email-- see below-- four such defects,
that I would expect your people to catch. But that is really not the
main point. The main point is that you are advertising on EBay that you
have MINT condition units to offer to bidders in your auction. THAT is
what I bid on, and THAT is what I expected you to deliver to me.
You have sent me on two occasions an HP200LX in the hopes that might
complete it. However, NEITHER of the units would qualify to be called
"in GOOD condition", let alone called "MINT". And I assumed this time,
that if you had a mint or near-mint machine, you would have sent it...
So, please, just send me my money and lets call it quits.
-Don Evans.
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At 10:34 AM 7/31/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Warning .
>If the unit is return with out any defects not only you will not be
>refunded but also the same unit only goes back to you with payment of
>shipping. Now , if the units is really defective you'll have your refund,
>so explain in details if you're sure about any flaws .
>Thank you !
>Alex.
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>Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:21 PM
>To: Prolink_attn_Alex
>Alex,
>This unit (#SG 81100770) has the following serious defects:
>1- Some of the keys of the keyboard don't make contact without
>pressing hard (try pressing Q as in Quit).
>2- The display has a 1/8 inch pixel gap at the top of the screen. This
>is seen in any of the standard built-in applications. This most likely is
>from some pixel rows that are inoperative.
>3- The plastic mask that frames the display is peeled away from the
>lid and is not fixed in place.
>4- The outside bottom lid of the case is badly scarred up-- once again,
>more evidence of hard and careless usage.
>There are probably more flaws to comment on in this machine, but I
>can't afford to give it the time. It's already far too much.... and
>unacceptable by any standards.
>You advertised in your original offering HP 200LX machines that
>were MINT, meaning machines that are the same as from the factory
>and essentially unused. Apparently you do not have such machines.
>I must now insist that you RETURN MY PAYMENT to me.
>Regards,
>-Don Evans

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01h29m ago Eric wrote:

> > One unit I have really likes the 119 - another develops lines,
> > with the rate above 100.
>
> Okay,  I am curious....what do you that it really likes 119?
>
> Is the text "sharper"?

Yes, slightly "sharper" :) Hard to describe - the text seems
blacker and the background stays the same. It's as if the
letters suddenly jump towards me. Opps maybe I need an eye
check-up :)

> (Or Is it smiling now? 8-)

That too - ;-D

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>
> >>I have that set up, too.  I bought the 16 bit and the 32 bit
> >>version.  Oh well. :)
>
> thats a thought get the 32 bit version for the windows machine
lol are they
> still around?

I was on their site a few weeks ago looking at the lastest uploads
of qedit macros.  They're still there.  No upgrades for a while but
what do they need to add?

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i am not sure about Freja and memory, but i have worked with six open texts
at the same time .. using Memo for the main text, the notes in the four
applications (Appt,Phone,Db,Note), and TODO.EXM's note field. all accessed
via hotkeys and copy/paste via internal clipboard.

todo.exm is on SUPER (anyone has the doc's English translation?)

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Barry blah, blah, blahed ...
>
>I used Freyja on the 95 for a while but I found it confusing.  I
>guess I was just too used to qedit.

Yes, the emacs commands takes a while to get used to and the large
footprint is a big disadvantage.  But it does do the job.  I'm in the
process of trying others but worse comes to worst freyja is my fall back.

Thanks Barry and to Larry too who originally recommended this software to me.

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Hi Avi

15h11m ago Avi Meshar wrote:

> More than "seems" - it was designed to do it. If you run it OUTSIDE system
> manager (as I always use it) then you cannot share with notebook or
> databases because there are no notebook or database app alive at that
> point. But inside sysmgr no problems.

Actually you can do that using Clipvue.
Even if no software carousel task swapping is active, clipvue keeps the
clipboard contents, until they are overwritten, in its data file, so
you can use them time-shifted.

Two system macros make using clipvue under System Manager as easy as
pressing Fn-F1 for copy and Fn-F2 for paste, for example (that's how I
have set it up).
And PE uses the same clipboard file as clipvue, so data can easily be
exchanged between PE running outside SysMgr and any SysMgr app.

GTX
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At 10/12/02-05:36 Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> > If you run it OUTSIDE system manager (as I always use it) then you cannot
> > share with notebook or databases because there are no notebook or
> database             > app alive at that
> > point. But inside sysmgr no problems.
>
>Actually you can do that using Clipvue. Even if no software carousel task
>swapping is active, clipvue keeps the clipboard contents, until they are
>overwritten, in its data file, so you can use them time-shifted.

Actually, that is exactly what I was using and forgot. I would clip an
email in POST/LX which ran in a SW carousel workarea that had no Sysmgr in
it, then jumped over to a Sysmgr workarea where there was an open database
and pasted the email in a note field of a database. As you observed, PE and
Clipvue use the same clipboard.

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I wrote to Mack and asked about the Shift-Ctrl-W Low Power mode
mentioned in the SPD31.TXT file and got this response...

> From: "Mack Baggette" <mack@times2tech.com>
> I see now that it is some sort of Card slot
> low power mode. I have no other details than that. Using the normal mode
> key combo should reset all selects to the defaults.

Since I use "LXCIC O" to completely power off my flash card I
don't see a need for a low power mode but others might.

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Hi Oliver

2 days 01h21m ago Oliver Leibenguth wrote:

> I had a different thing in mind:
> Why not putting up a simple list where anyone can offer the parts he doesn't need and the price he wants for it?
> Much like:
> "I (foo@bar.com) offer part X and want X$ or part Y for it. Contact me for details."

I think this is the best way to do it. So things are shipped only when
shipping is needed.

However, I don't know if it would really work out well, because the
parts needed most often are always the same ones. But why not try it?
If it isn't convenient enough, we can cancel it again. Easy if it's
"only" a list. I would surely have something for that list, and I would
also need some parts.


> That's just another idea, I'm willing to put up that swapshop the way the majority of readers want it, as long as I can program it (plain html preferred). I can provide the necessary webspace and a domain-name that's unknown to spammers. I can even pa
s
> sword-protect the pages as soon as I learned to fiddle with htaccess.

Mail me privately - I'll gladly support you with htaccess if you want.

GTX
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Hi Jack

1 day 14h43m ago Jack Skelley wrote:

> So now the question is.......what is making the 200LX intermittent???
> I checked the keyboard connection area again and all appears ok.

Make sure the two keyboard case halves are pressing the contacts
together strong enough. There are two plastic pins on the left and on
the right of the keyboard contacts in one shell half, and two fitting
holes in the other half. This mechanism establishes the pressure needed
for te keyboard contacts to work reliably.

If this seems to be okay, clean all keyboard contacts on the
motherboard and on the white keyboard contact foil, but be sure not
to clean away the black contact layer!! (Maybe this is what you
thought was a residue? If you wipe it out too much, the contacts
cannot work anymore. It is some sort of thin graphite layer. It's the
same stuff as inside the bubbles of the transparent keyboard bubble
foil.)


> BTW, I have enjoyed some of the posts. Especially the possibility of a
> display backlight. I have thought many times that it was possible to
> place 4 T-1 high brightness white (or green) LEDs to light the display
> which could be controlled by a micro slide switch in the case.

I also thought about LEDs. But my investigations showed that for an LED
backlight to work well, you need something which guides the light
coming form the sides as evenly as possible up through the LCD.
Normally, a layer of laser-treated glass or plexiglass is used for
that, but it is thick, and would not fit inside the LX LCD. I don't
think it's enough to simply mount some LEDs on the sides of the display
glass. The middle of the screen would stay relatively dark, while the
edges would be very bright.

And may backglight is even easier to install than such tiny LEDs.

BTW: The backlight kit will also contain a small SMD slide switch,
which can be used instead of the CPU signal, so if someone prefers
either to switch the backlight manually instead of using the software
driver, or if someone doesn't dare to lift that CPU pin, which is
necessary for software control, he can use the switch instead.

GTX
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Avi Meshar wrote:

>
> Actually, that is exactly what I was using and forgot. I would clip an
> email in POST/LX which ran in a SW carousel workarea that had no Sysmgr =
in
> it, then jumped over to a Sysmgr workarea where there was an open =
database
> and pasted the email in a note field of a database. As you observed, PE =
and
> Clipvue use the same clipboard.

I use Clipvue because I work mostly in pure DOS. But I
remember Andreas once said that PE copies to memory and not
to file.

I just did a test. I opened clipvue.txt in PE and noted its
content, jumped to another file and copied some selected text,
jumped back to clipvue.txt. There was no change to clipvue.txt.

Do you have to set up pe.cfg in a special way to get PE to work
with Clipvue?

I am using PE 2.1.

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Hi Leong

01h21m ago LEONG Ka Tai wrote:

> I just did a test. I opened clipvue.txt in PE and noted its
> content, jumped to another file and copied some selected text,
> jumped back to clipvue.txt. There was no change to clipvue.txt.
>
> Do you have to set up pe.cfg in a special way to get PE to work
> with Clipvue?
>
> I am using PE 2.1.

..and that's the problem.
PE is clipvue compatible only from version 2.3 (or even 2.2? Don't
know, I use 2.3 and that one works).

PE 2.3 clips to c:\_dat\clipvue.txt, as does Clipvue itself and
Post/LX, too, if you put the line

ClipFile=c:\_dat\clipvue.txt

into the [System] section of post.cfg.
That way exchanging data between all the often-used programs is easy,
and even copying data fomr the above into other programs is not too
difficult: Simply "open file" in other programs and open
"c:\_dat\clipvue.txt".

GTX
daniel

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And LATEST PE is available on D&A website. I believe SUPER refers to our
site. If not, I cannot guarantee what version you get. Daniel, does SUPER
use links to the D&A programs?

At 10/13/02-12:14 PM, you wrote:
>Hi Leong
>
>01h21m ago LEONG Ka Tai wrote:
>
> > I just did a test. I opened clipvue.txt in PE and noted its
> > content, jumped to another file and copied some selected text,
> > jumped back to clipvue.txt. There was no change to clipvue.txt.
> >
> > Do you have to set up pe.cfg in a special way to get PE to work
> > with Clipvue?
> >
> > I am using PE 2.1.
>
>..and that's the problem.
>PE is clipvue compatible only from version 2.3 (or even 2.2? Don't
>know, I use 2.3 and that one works).
>
>PE 2.3 clips to c:\_dat\clipvue.txt, as does Clipvue itself and
>Post/LX, too, if you put the line
>
>ClipFile=c:\_dat\clipvue.txt
>
>into the [System] section of post.cfg.
>That way exchanging data between all the often-used programs is easy,
>and even copying data fomr the above into other programs is not too
>difficult: Simply "open file" in other programs and open
>"c:\_dat\clipvue.txt".
>
>GTX
>daniel
>
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Hello,

> I think this is the best way to do it.

I just put something together:
www.nygmytech.de/swapshop.html

> However, I don't know if it would really work out well, because the
> parts needed most often are always the same ones. But why
> not try it?

You know that there already is something similar at Thomas Rundel's
homepage (www.rundel.net/palmtop/usedstuf.htm)?

> Mail me privately - I'll gladly support you with htaccess
> if you want.

I found out that it's not my fault. My "ISP" has some kind of a
"dummy-mode" put up for every account. So nobody goofs up his
.htaccess. As soon as I made them believe that I know what I'm doing,
there'll be a password...

regards,
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Hi Avi

01h40m ago Avi Meshar wrote:

> And LATEST PE is available on D&A website. I believe SUPER refers to our
> site. If not, I cannot guarantee what version you get. Daniel, does SUPER
> use links to the D&A programs?
.
Yes, all SUPER links to D&A software refer to the download list at
www.dasoft.com, so you get always the latest versions of D&A software
if using SUPER.

GTX
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with fixed phone dial-up connection, but without GPRS?
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At 10/13/02-03:01 PM, Daniel Hertrich, Exalted Maintainer of SUPER, wrote:
> > Daniel, does SUPER use links to the D&A programs?
>
>Yes, all SUPER links to D&A software refer to the download list at
>www.dasoft.com, so you get always the latest versions of D&A software
>if using SUPER.
>
>GTX
>daniel

Excellent. (I think I knew the answer will be that, just wanted to make
sure other people saw that too! <VBG> Thank you, Daniel!

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Date:         Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:13:20 +0200
Reply-To:     Nathalie Bugeaud <planetary@FREE.FR>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Nathalie Bugeaud <planetary@FREE.FR>
Subject:      Re: Swap shop
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 >Since any modification to the palmtop risks it's destruction,
 >a serious problem is best handled (for most users) by the
 >experts at Thaddeus..

discounting "for most users" this sounds like ol Thad has exclusive
skills/rights to operating on the insides of LXs.

my main unit is presently being repaired in the Nederlands/Holland. If i had
sent it to Thad i would have been hit not only by his bill, but by
French/European import tax. The alternative would have been Rundell in
Germany. ... but i know of >6! list members who can operate on LX insides,
and who will charge far less than Hal&co.
 Dr Nat :)

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Date:         Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:12:50 +0200
Reply-To:     Nathalie Bugeaud <planetary@FREE.FR>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Nathalie Bugeaud <planetary@FREE.FR>
Subject:      Numlock tip
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

i am using Nulock.com loaded to prevent wear of direction keys and to make
pg+dn only 1 keystroke. i had to turn it off and on when wanting to type
numbers, but just found a way around it.. typing shift+number key inserts
the number without unloading numlock.com from memory
... anyone knows a work-around for the apostrophe and q-mark ?!?
(btw. the "?!?" was created by quick-lx)
cheers, (amities -  Dr Nat :)

ps. btw. i am getting rejections from the HPLX-List server for messages
containing a virus with my former 'wanadoo' address on it.
someone on this list has tps-seti@wanadoo.fr in their address book and is
infected with the klez or bugbear

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Date:         Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:48:34 -0500
Reply-To:     hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Avi Meshar <hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Numlock tip
In-Reply-To:  <004601c27330$277b1f40$da5b933e@oemcomputer>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Interesting! Yesterday someone spoofed my old email address (no longer
active!) and while apparently no virus was in the attachment, it really was
disturbing to see such an ugly spoof.

BTW, I use Eudora, and the address book in it DOES not have tps-seti. Must
be another admirer <g>, Doc ...

Someone is playing with the list and viruses. I'd like it that if found,
the person will be THROWN OUT of the list permanently, no questions asked,
no second chances given.

Avi

At 10/13/02-10:12 PM, you wrote:
>ps. btw. i am getting rejections from the HPLX-List server for messages
>containing a virus with my former 'wanadoo' address on it.
>someone on this list has tps-seti@wanadoo.fr in their address book and is
>infected with the klez or bugbear
>
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Date:         Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:37:55 -0700
Reply-To:     Ian Butler <ianb@HPLX.NET>
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From:         Ian Butler <ianb@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Numlock tip
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.2.20021013224439.024f0ec0@mail.alwaysafe.com>
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Avi Meshar wrote:

> Someone is playing with the list and viruses. I'd like it that if
> found, the person will be THROWN OUT of the list permanently, no
> questions asked, no second chances given.

For whatever it's worth, I have gotten several "Rejected posting to
HPLX-L" messages from listserv@uconnvm.uconn.edu, and those forged
postings (which were infected with the Klez virus) were coming from
davidlee34@attbi.com.  Each time I was notified, I sent a message to
davidlee34@attbi.com informing him that his system is apparently infected
with the Klez virus, but he has not yet responded.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:59:11 +0200
Reply-To:     "Oliver W. Leibenguth" <Oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE>
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From:         "Oliver W. Leibenguth" <Oliver@COMPUSEUM.DE>
Subject:      Re: Swap shop - PLEASE READ
In-Reply-To:  <200210131023.g9DAN7426493@mail2.uits.uconn.edu>
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Hi,

just a small correction:
It's www.nygmatech.de/swapshop.html
Sorry for the typo and thanks to Daniel for finding it - so there is
at least one interested listmember ;-)

regards,
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Date:         Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:50:39 +0200
Reply-To:     Niels <hp700lx@SOFTHOME.NET>
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From:         Niels <hp700lx@SOFTHOME.NET>
Subject:      Re: Numlock tip
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AFAIK, klez spoofs the origin of the mail. It takes a random adress from the
adressbook and uses that as the originating adress. So, it could be anyone
with davidlee34@attbi.com AND the hplx list adress in his / hers adress
book. AND he or she must be using outlook...

Niels

[n]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Butler" <ianb@HPLX.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: Numlock tip


> On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Avi Meshar wrote:
>
> > Someone is playing with the list and viruses. I'd like it that if
> > found, the person will be THROWN OUT of the list permanently, no
> > questions asked, no second chances given.
>
> For whatever it's worth, I have gotten several "Rejected posting to
> HPLX-L" messages from listserv@uconnvm.uconn.edu, and those forged
> postings (which were infected with the Klez virus) were coming from
> davidlee34@attbi.com.  Each time I was notified, I sent a message to
> davidlee34@attbi.com informing him that his system is apparently infected
> with the Klez virus, but he has not yet responded.
>
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Date:         Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:51:05 +0800
Reply-To:     Jorgen Wallgren <wallgren@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jorgen Wallgren <wallgren@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Subject:      Outlook <=> HP 200LX
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi there,

I have installed Curtis Cameron's MS Outlook to HP LX Converter 3.03
and looks like it works great- except for converting an appointment to
my 200LX, since the Location of the meeting is left out. I just get an
empty field in my 200LX appointment book. But when I open the file,
using PE, I can see that the Location is in there- but must then be
mapped wrongly...?

If I convert an appointment from 200LX to MS Outlook- everything works =
fine.

Anyone seen this problem? If it works fine for you- which OS and which
version of Outlook are you using?

I have tried to get in contact with Curtis for some time now, but
without success. How can he be reached?

Without knowing the Location for the meeting, this setup is kind of
useless to me. And since it's a great program, I would like to get it
going... :-)

Thanks and Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:58:05 +1300
Reply-To:     Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Re: Numlock tip
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.4.33.0210132128480.27770-100000@hplx.net>
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--
05h05m ago Ian Butler wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Avi Meshar wrote:
>
> > Someone is playing with the list and viruses. I'd like it that if
> > found, the person will be THROWN OUT of the list permanently, no
> > questions asked, no second chances given.
>
> For whatever it's worth, I have gotten several "Rejected posting to
> HPLX-L" messages from listserv@uconnvm.uconn.edu, and those forged
> postings (which were infected with the Klez virus) were coming from
> davidlee34@attbi.com.  Each time I was notified, I sent a message to
> davidlee34@attbi.com informing him that his system is apparently infected
> with the Klez virus, but he has not yet responded.

I think it may indeed have something to do with attbi.com as
the one spoofing sponsor@ftel had this in the first received
header:

Received: from Eblz ([12.232.168.47]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com

(I don't know whether that was the original smtp server  or not
though)

Looking thru a couple of messages I saw three folk here using
rwcrmhc51.attbi.com - Bob N,Patrick W and Barry, but I doubt
those guys have klez.

The smtp server used should narrow it down?

Wouldn't you know it you had it ? Does it leave a copy of the
message in an outbox?

--
-Tony
 http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for:
 POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD

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Date:         Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:05:16 -0400
Reply-To:     Larry Tachna <ltachna@ATT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Larry Tachna <ltachna@ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Numlock tip
Comments: To: hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.2.20021013224439.024f0ec0@mail.alwaysafe.com>
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>>Someone is playing with the list and viruses. I'd like it that if found,
>>the person will be THROWN OUT of the list permanently, no questions asked,
>>no second chances given.

your too kind Avi how about we draw and quarter the guilty party instead?

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Date:         Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:48:57 -0700
Reply-To:     joseph.e.buford@BOEING.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Joe Buford <joseph.e.buford@BOEING.COM>
Subject:      EVLN(diesel HEVs will go on sale within about a year)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Looks like we have a virus circulating thru the HPLX listserv.

Got this with Bruce's name and an obviously bogus IP.

First Avi then Bruce-Have the no shame!!!!! :-)

Any chance of tracing this?

Joe
---------------------- Forwarded by Joseph E Buford/ES/HSC/HUGHES on
10/14/2002 06:45 AM ---------------------------


Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter <BruceDP@jps.net> on 10/13/2002 02:47:41 PM

To:
cc:

Subject:  EVLN(diesel HEVs will go on sale within about a year)


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From:         Ian Butler <ianb@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Numlock tip
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nOn Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Niels wrote:

> AFAIK, klez spoofs the origin of the mail. It takes a random adress
> from the adressbook and uses that as the originating adress. So, it
> could be anyone with davidlee34@attbi.com AND the hplx list adress in
> his / hers adress book. AND he or she must be using outlook...

Sorry, I was not clear enough.  The forged From: field was not
davidlee34@attbi.com, the From: field had *MY* e-mail address in it.
This is why the "Rejected posting" messages came "back" to me.  I
determined that the real infected sender was davidlee34@attbi.com by
examining the Return-Path and Received header lines.
davidlee34@attbi.com is the actual infected user's e-mail address.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:58:28 -0400
Reply-To:     Jack Skelley <Skelley@NEWJERSEYDEVILS.COM>
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From:         Jack Skelley <Skelley@NEWJERSEYDEVILS.COM>
Organization: New Jersey Devils Hockey Club
Subject:      Re: Water Logged 200LX...more info...
Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Daniel:
That was the first thing I checked after it *was working* for a time. I know
from being around electronics for the past 30 years that *things* don't
break, fix themselves then break again. So I am looking for that
intermittent contact with the kbd white connector and the motherboard. It
has to be it.
No, the residue was not the graphite layer. It was the residue from the
seltzer water (I'm sure). Cleaned the boards with a dry cloth. No solvent
was used because I have seen the graphite layer dissolve. What is odd is
that when power is supplied to the LX it is automatically turns on without
pressing the ON button. Also...If I hold down ON and plug in the power the
LX does not initialize. But then the ON button will not turn the LX on.
Unplug the power and re-plug it in and the unit inits. So my assumption is
the keyboard is working...
Ok on the backlight. Lifting a pin on the CPU could be tricky. A soldering
iron with no voltage potential on the tip would be required (this is why I
use an adjustable butane powered iron for these things) and low enough temp
as to not disturb the multiple layers below the surface. I usually leave
these things alone. When I have to lift a pin I have been successful with
cutting with a micro tip xacto knife.
I have had some success with installing LEDs to light up liquid crystal
panels. I paint the LEDs black except for the tip then position them so they
are mounted on the edge of the glass. The display doesn't have to be 100%
backlit. Only enough to see what is on the display in dim light. Of course,
anything would be better than what is there now <g>.
If you have any other ideas about my LX issues I would love to hear them.
Thanks.

Jack Skelley
skelley@newjerseydevils.com


Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi Jack
>
> 1 day 14h43m ago Jack Skelley wrote:
>
> > So now the question is.......what is making the 200LX intermittent???
> > I checked the keyboard connection area again and all appears ok.
>
> Make sure the two keyboard case halves are pressing the contacts
> together strong enough. There are two plastic pins on the left and on
> the right of the keyboard contacts in one shell half, and two fitting
> holes in the other half. This mechanism establishes the pressure needed
> for te keyboard contacts to work reliably.
>
> If this seems to be okay, clean all keyboard contacts on the
> motherboard and on the white keyboard contact foil, but be sure not
> to clean away the black contact layer!! (Maybe this is what you
> thought was a residue? If you wipe it out too much, the contacts
> cannot work anymore. It is some sort of thin graphite layer. It's the
> same stuff as inside the bubbles of the transparent keyboard bubble
> foil.)
>
> > BTW, I have enjoyed some of the posts. Especially the possibility of a
> > display backlight. I have thought many times that it was possible to
> > place 4 T-1 high brightness white (or green) LEDs to light the display
> > which could be controlled by a micro slide switch in the case.
>
> I also thought about LEDs. But my investigations showed that for an LED
> backlight to work well, you need something which guides the light
> coming form the sides as evenly as possible up through the LCD.
> Normally, a layer of laser-treated glass or plexiglass is used for
> that, but it is thick, and would not fit inside the LX LCD. I don't
> think it's enough to simply mount some LEDs on the sides of the display
> glass. The middle of the screen would stay relatively dark, while the
> edges would be very bright.
>
> And may backglight is even easier to install than such tiny LEDs.
>
> BTW: The backlight kit will also contain a small SMD slide switch,
> which can be used instead of the CPU signal, so if someone prefers
> either to switch the backlight manually instead of using the software
> driver, or if someone doesn't dare to lift that CPU pin, which is
> necessary for software control, he can use the switch instead.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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Date:         Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:29:41 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      SUPER update
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Mon, 14.10.02 8:26 PM +0200

Hi friends,

a new update of the SUPER archive at http://www.palmtop.net.
Now the latest version of all the T2T drivers are available (thanks to
Mack!). Check the "New additions" page.

Changelog:

14-OKT-02
T2TDRV added (Times2Tech drivers)
SCRUBERS added
ACADLXR2 added, ACAD-LX removed
GDBLOAD updated
BGFAX homepage URL updated
CCLXPOP sourcecode URL (Sourceforge) added
VOLKOV commander items modified (homepage and path links)
VOLKOV commander 5 added
123G     updated to v1.77b
123GGG   removed
123G177B added (English)
123GF19  added (French)
123GFF19 added (French)
123GG18  added (German)
123GGG18 added (German)
123GSS19 added (Spanish)
123G175  added (japanese)
123G175J added (Japanese)



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Date:         Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:26:12 -0500
Reply-To:     hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Avi Meshar <hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Numlock tip
In-Reply-To:  <NDBBLIDKDLGALLIIMCONCEIMCOAA.ltachna@att.net>
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Hi Larry:  I'll hold the sharpening tools for you! <VBG>

At 10/14/02-08:05 AM, "Larry Tachna" <ltachna@att.net> wrote:

> >>Someone is playing with the list and viruses. I'd like it that if found,
> >>the person will be THROWN OUT of the list permanently, no questions asked,
> >>no second chances given.
>
>your too kind Avi how about we draw and quarter the guilty party instead?

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Date:         Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:30:10 -0500
Reply-To:     hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Avi Meshar <hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM>
Subject:      Re: EVLN(diesel HEVs will go on sale within about a year)
In-Reply-To:  <OFF988185B.7F8A0889-ON88256C52.004B9214@hughes.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Joe,

In a way the two other messages detailing an apparent bug that roams here
is a relief for me. I really did not want to be the one to cause anyone
damages. Of course, it is only a minor relief until Larry finishes
quartering and drawing that jerk!

The worst part is that the email they used for me has not been in service
in months! The account has been closed for a long time!

Avi

At 10/14/02-08:48 AM, joseph.e.buford@BOEING.COM wrote:
>Looks like we have a virus circulating thru the HPLX listserv.
>
>Got this with Bruce's name and an obviously bogus IP.

    [...snip...]

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Date:         Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:05:58 -0500
Reply-To:     hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM
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From:         Avi Meshar <hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM>
Subject:      Virtual Keyboards?
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This is what we have waited for, I think.

Canesta Inc has a device that "sees" around the computer it is attached to
and interprets whatever motions objects around it make and act on them.

The company's blablabla says:

"Electronic Perception Technology

Electronic perception technology permits machines, consumer and electronic
devices, or virtually any other class of modern product to perceive and
react to objects and individuals in the nearby environment in real time,
particularly through the medium of "sight," utilizing low- cost,
high-performance, embedded sensors and software.

What sets electronic perception technology apart from classical "computer
vision" applications, is that for the first time, actionable information
can be developed in real time by observation of the nearby environment
utilizing an ultra-low-cost sensor technology that is a size comparable to
that found in nature. And as portable...

The goal of electronic perception technology is to make it possible for
devices or applications of any complexity, from "lightweight" appliances,
PDAs, cell phones, or games, to heavyweight vehicle control, airport
security, or national security-class applications, to be able to perceive
objects and features in the nearby environment such that identification and
action are practical and possible.

Canesta has taken a leadership role in defining and implementing practical
electronic perception technology with the development of low-cost,
semiconductor-based image sensor chip technology and powerful embedded
image processing software. Canesta's technology provides actionable
perceptions or identifications to third-party applications that permit
these applications embedding Canesta's technology to react in a manner
appropriate to their function."

This is not today available at CDW or the like, but the technology is
beginning to take shape.

http://www.canesta.com/index.htm

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Date:         Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:26:09 -0500
Reply-To:     Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      OT: Spam Outlook solution
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Following the SPAM thread -- for those of you on Outlook in an Exchange
environment, I really recommend www.cloudmark.com, SPAMNET. Been using it
for 3 months. It's free and keeps getting better.  It puts what it thinks is
SPAM into a folder that you can check out at your leisure.  If you get spam
in your inbox, you can click the block icon. It sends the spam to your spam
folder and alerts cloudmark.  Similarly you can unblock. Cloudmark uses user
feedback to update their engine.

Hal at Thaddeus

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Hi Daniel & Avi,

Thanks for the info, I shall upgrade my PE.

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Hi Jack

14h54m ago Jack Skelley wrote:

> seltzer water (I'm sure). Cleaned the boards with a dry cloth. No solvent
> was used because I have seen the graphite layer dissolve. What is odd is
> that when power is supplied to the LX it is automatically turns on without
> pressing the ON button. Also...If I hold down ON and plug in the power the
> LX does not initialize. But then the ON button will not turn the LX on.
> Unplug the power and re-plug it in and the unit inits. So my assumption is
> the keyboard is working...

Have you tried the keyboard test? Well, this can only be done of course
if you are able to switch the unit off and on again somehow. If it's
off, keep Esc pressed, then press On, this will enter the hardware
test mode. There is a keyboard test. It wants you to press all keys
from left to right and top to bottom and beeps for every key it
detects. After you hit three times a wrong key, it complains and quits
the test. If all went well, it says "keyboard OK".

> Ok on the backlight. Lifting a pin on the CPU could be tricky. A soldering
> iron with no voltage potential on the tip would be required (this is why I
> use an adjustable butane powered iron for these things) and low enough temp
> as to not disturb the multiple layers below the surface. I usually leave
> these things alone. When I have to lift a pin I have been successful with
> cutting with a micro tip xacto knife.

Well, I didn't do it with so much care, used no potential "killer"
(although my soldering equipment allows that), and the CPU still works
well. :-) But you are right, it's better to take care. I will mention
that in the installation sheet I'm working on currently.

And for those who don't want to lift pins, there is still the SMD
switch included in the kit. ;-)

> I have had some success with installing LEDs to light up liquid crystal
> panels.

Such large LCDs like the one of the LX? I really suspect light
diffusion is too bad here, so the middle of the screen is not bright
enough and the borders are annoying bright.

> I paint the LEDs black except for the tip then position them so they
> are mounted on the edge of the glass. The display doesn't have to be 100%
> backlit. Only enough to see what is on the display in dim light. Of course,
> anything would be better than what is there now <g>.

LEDs would have another advantage: There are bright white ones, which
make a light which is more convenient for the eyes than the greenish
light of the EL foil. But I'm lucky I found a way to install the EL
foil relatively well, and I surely won't investigate in other solutions
anymore. MY time doesn't allow this. Unfortunately.

Thanks
daniel

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Hi Daniel

Abvout lifting CPU pin:
 It is NOT necessary to lift ANY pin on the CPU. I have a backlighted =
unit and i just solder the wire on the pin without removing/lifting it =
from the PCB=20
and it works correctly :-]=20

Martin

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Hi Jack

14h54m ago Jack Skelley wrote:

> seltzer water (I'm sure). Cleaned the boards with a dry cloth. No =
solvent
> was used because I have seen the graphite layer dissolve. What is odd =
is
> that when power is supplied to the LX it is automatically turns on =
without
> pressing the ON button. Also...If I hold down ON and plug in the power =
the
> LX does not initialize. But then the ON button will not turn the LX =
on.
> Unplug the power and re-plug it in and the unit inits. So my =
assumption is
> the keyboard is working...

Have you tried the keyboard test? Well, this can only be done of course
if you are able to switch the unit off and on again somehow. If it's
off, keep Esc pressed, then press On, this will enter the hardware
test mode. There is a keyboard test. It wants you to press all keys
from left to right and top to bottom and beeps for every key it
detects. After you hit three times a wrong key, it complains and quits
the test. If all went well, it says "keyboard OK".

> Ok on the backlight. Lifting a pin on the CPU could be tricky. A =
soldering
> iron with no voltage potential on the tip would be required (this is =
why I
> use an adjustable butane powered iron for these things) and low enough =
temp
> as to not disturb the multiple layers below the surface. I usually =
leave
> these things alone. When I have to lift a pin I have been successful =
with
> cutting with a micro tip xacto knife.

Well, I didn't do it with so much care, used no potential "killer"
(although my soldering equipment allows that), and the CPU still works
well. :-) But you are right, it's better to take care. I will mention
that in the installation sheet I'm working on currently.

And for those who don't want to lift pins, there is still the SMD
switch included in the kit. ;-)

> I have had some success with installing LEDs to light up liquid =
crystal
> panels.

Such large LCDs like the one of the LX? I really suspect light
diffusion is too bad here, so the middle of the screen is not bright
enough and the borders are annoying bright.

> I paint the LEDs black except for the tip then position them so they
> are mounted on the edge of the glass. The display doesn't have to be =
100%
> backlit. Only enough to see what is on the display in dim light. Of =
course,
> anything would be better than what is there now <g>.

LEDs would have another advantage: There are bright white ones, which
make a light which is more convenient for the eyes than the greenish
light of the EL foil. But I'm lucky I found a way to install the EL
foil relatively well, and I surely won't investigate in other solutions
anymore. MY time doesn't allow this. Unfortunately.

Thanks
daniel

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On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Vagner Martin wrote:

> Abvout lifting CPU pin:
>  It is NOT necessary to lift ANY pin on the CPU. I have a backlighted
> unit and i just solder the wire on the pin without removing/lifting it
> from the PCB and it works correctly :-]

Seconded -- my unit never had a CPU pin lifted, and neither did any of the
other units that John Musielewicz and David Sargeant did, AFAIK.  The
wires are just soldered on to the pins as-is.

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> Canesta Inc has a device that "sees" around the computer it is
attached to
> and interprets whatever motions objects around it make and act on
them.

I ain't going for it.  i will not have my computer gossiping to
other computers around the internet.  I will not tolerate the
entire internet laughing at me when I pick my nose.

Consider the privacy implications.  You'll have to turn the
computer off when you and your spouse make love.  I'll bet this is
sponsored by the Viagra people.

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[n]
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Avi Meshar" <hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:05 PM
> Subject: Virtual Keyboards?
>
>
> > Canesta Inc has a device that "sees" around the computer it is
> attached to
> > and interprets whatever motions objects around it make and act on
> them.
>
> I ain't going for it.  i will not have my computer gossiping to
> other computers around the internet.  I will not tolerate the
> entire internet laughing at me when I pick my nose.
>
> Consider the privacy implications.  You'll have to turn the
> computer off when you and your spouse make love.  I'll bet this is
> sponsored by the Viagra people.
>
> Barry
>


maybe check the site and read about the keyboard. the keyboard won't bother
you picking your nose or making love ;) (well, I think it won't bother...)
the keyboard think is quite handy, it projects a full-size keyboard on your
desk and you can type on it. The movie they show seems to be pretty fake,
imho. But it might be true, if my memory is with me, siemens also has
developed such a virual keyboard.


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Barry,

At 10/15/02-07:55 AM, Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:
> > Canesta Inc has a device that "sees" around the computer it is
>attached to
> > and interprets whatever motions objects around it make and act on
>them.
>
>I ain't going for it.  i will not have my computer gossiping to
>other computers around the internet.  I will not tolerate the
>entire internet laughing at me when I pick my nose.

If it fosters more judicious behaviour on your part, then it is goodness,
no? <G>

>Consider the privacy implications.  You'll have to turn the
>computer off when you and your spouse make love.  I'll bet this is
>sponsored by the Viagra people.

I have nothing to do with this company, but, the point you raise makes me
think - a combination of webcam, viagra, internet - what a formula for a
pornography site!

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Date:         Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:38:53 +0200
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Tue, 15.10.02 10:21 AM +0200

Playing with numlock, I just made an interesting observation:

The "command"

/*

at the DOS prompt triggers an MS-DOS version information. Is this a bug
or a feature? ;-) And are there other such "commands" which do
something interesting?

GTX
daniel

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Hi Ian and Martin

01h55m ago Ian Butler wrote:

> Seconded -- my unit never had a CPU pin lifted, and neither did any of the
> other units that John Musielewicz and David Sargeant did, AFAIK.  The
> wires are just soldered on to the pins as-is.

I haven't tried to do that yet, because the risk of connecting two legs
irreversably is high, I think. But I will add that option to the
instruction sheet. Thanks!

GTX
daniel

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Hi Nathalie

1 day 05h02m ago Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:

> numbers, but just found a way around it.. typing shift+number key inserts
> the number without unloading numlock.com from memory
> ... anyone knows a work-around for the apostrophe and q-mark ?!?

No, but I found a strange think when playing with the keys under
numlock:

When numlock is LOADED, but DEACTIVATED, it is not possible to enter
the double-questionmarks, underscore and percent sign, i.e. shift
doesnt have any effect on *, - and +. The other keys seem to work OK.

eh - just tried it once more, and now it works. I hvae numlock in
autoexec.bat, so it is loaded for every SC session and activated /
deactivated for each session seperately.

Stefan?

Another interesting thing I came across accidentally is described in
my next mail.

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dnaiel

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On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> I haven't tried to do that yet, because the risk of connecting two
> legs irreversably is high, I think. But I will add that option to the
> instruction sheet. Thanks!

The risk is there -- the pins are very small and close together, after
all.  But with a decently sharp soldering iron tip, it's actually quite
simple -- you coat the tip of the wire with a thin layer of solder, set
the wire down on the pin and touch the top of the wire briefly, and it
bonds to the pin nicely.  Of course, if you leave too much solder on the
wire tip, you risk shorting out nearby pins.

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Daniel:
Test mode doesn't work.
Every once in a while when the unit is running its init and I press on/off the
unit shuts off. But then it will not turn on again. This is every once in a long
while. There is no consistency or pattern I can see or detect.
What makes me nuts is the fact that I got through the init form once complete
with owner data and brought up the program manager.
I checked the pressure on the keyboard contacts and all appears ok.
When I hold down on and plug in the ac adapter the unit does not init.
I'm afraid it's time to place the box in the sock drawer and see if I can find
another that is not too pricey...
Thanks for your help.
Regards,

Jack Skelley
skelley@newjerseydevils.com


Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi Jack
>
> 14h54m ago Jack Skelley wrote:
>
> > seltzer water (I'm sure). Cleaned the boards with a dry cloth. No solvent
> > was used because I have seen the graphite layer dissolve. What is odd is
> > that when power is supplied to the LX it is automatically turns on without
> > pressing the ON button. Also...If I hold down ON and plug in the power the
> > LX does not initialize. But then the ON button will not turn the LX on.
> > Unplug the power and re-plug it in and the unit inits. So my assumption is
> > the keyboard is working...
>
> Have you tried the keyboard test? Well, this can only be done of course
> if you are able to switch the unit off and on again somehow. If it's
> off, keep Esc pressed, then press On, this will enter the hardware
> test mode. There is a keyboard test. It wants you to press all keys
> from left to right and top to bottom and beeps for every key it
> detects. After you hit three times a wrong key, it complains and quits
> the test. If all went well, it says "keyboard OK".
>
> > Ok on the backlight. Lifting a pin on the CPU could be tricky. A soldering
> > iron with no voltage potential on the tip would be required (this is why I
> > use an adjustable butane powered iron for these things) and low enough temp
> > as to not disturb the multiple layers below the surface. I usually leave
> > these things alone. When I have to lift a pin I have been successful with
> > cutting with a micro tip xacto knife.
>
> Well, I didn't do it with so much care, used no potential "killer"
> (although my soldering equipment allows that), and the CPU still works
> well. :-) But you are right, it's better to take care. I will mention
> that in the installation sheet I'm working on currently.
>
> And for those who don't want to lift pins, there is still the SMD
> switch included in the kit. ;-)
>
> > I have had some success with installing LEDs to light up liquid crystal
> > panels.
>
> Such large LCDs like the one of the LX? I really suspect light
> diffusion is too bad here, so the middle of the screen is not bright
> enough and the borders are annoying bright.
>
> > I paint the LEDs black except for the tip then position them so they
> > are mounted on the edge of the glass. The display doesn't have to be 100%
> > backlit. Only enough to see what is on the display in dim light. Of course,
> > anything would be better than what is there now <g>.
>
> LEDs would have another advantage: There are bright white ones, which
> make a light which is more convenient for the eyes than the greenish
> light of the EL foil. But I'm lucky I found a way to install the EL
> foil relatively well, and I surely won't investigate in other solutions
> anymore. MY time doesn't allow this. Unfortunately.
>
> Thanks
> daniel
>
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I have a theory, and it's not a theory that I like.
The thing that caught my eye was the text:
"Subject: EVLN(diesel HEVs will go on sale within about a year)".
This is a posting from the electric vehicles list which I subscribe to.
I had not saved this item as text but it might have been sitting in my
in box.
Then when Avi and Dr. Nat said that old addresses had been spoofed I
remembered that I have been saving useful posts from this list in a text
file.
I found  tps-seti@wanadoo in that file but not davidlee34@attbi.com.
So I went through the text file and replaced @ with (a*t) which should
prevent anything from finding those addresses.
I believe that some viruses will scan text files for addresses but I
don't know if they would pull text out of a Netscape mail folder.
Next I updated Norton AntiVirus 2001 and scanned the computer. Nothing
came up.
I'm beginning to have my doubts about NAV since just this morning I got
an attachment from leeahart@cws.net.au (another EV lister!) with an
attachment "trustemp.dc.exe".
So I scanned my Netscape Users folder and it reported nothing.
Is this normal, would I have to execute the attachment before the AV
scan would pick it up?
Anyway unless someone else here also subscribes to the EV list I would
seem to be the most likely source....
Any tips on files I can check for to see if I am infected?
I am running Win98 Lite with Windows Scripting Host turned off and I
don't have outlook installed.

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> Barry,
>
> At 10/15/02-07:55 AM, Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:
> > > Canesta Inc has a device that "sees" around the computer it
is
> >attached to
> > > and interprets whatever motions objects around it make and
act on
> >them.
> >
> >I ain't going for it.  i will not have my computer gossiping to
> >other computers around the internet.  I will not tolerate the
> >entire internet laughing at me when I pick my nose.
>
> If it fosters more judicious behaviour on your part, then it is
goodness,
> no? <G>
>
> >Consider the privacy implications.  You'll have to turn the
> >computer off when you and your spouse make love.  I'll bet this
is
> >sponsored by the Viagra people.
>
> I have nothing to do with this company, but, the point you raise
makes me
> think - a combination of webcam, viagra, internet - what a
formula for a
> pornography site!

Funny how you say it makes me more judicious and it makes you think
of a porn site.  :)

Barry

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From: "Andrew" <andrewaa@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: virus, could it be me?


> I'm beginning to have my doubts about NAV since just this morning
I got
> an attachment from leeahart@cws.net.au (another EV lister!) with
an
> attachment "trustemp.dc.exe".
> So I scanned my Netscape Users folder and it reported nothing.
> Is this normal, would I have to execute the attachment before the
AV
> scan would pick it up?
> Anyway unless someone else here also subscribes to the EV list I
would
> seem to be the most likely source....
> Any tips on files I can check for to see if I am infected?
> I am running Win98 Lite with Windows Scripting Host turned off
and I
> don't have outlook installed.

A possibitity that occurs to me is that someone put the virus
executable into a self extracting and executing zip, or rar or some
other compressor that creates self extracting archives.  That would
leave it as an exe but it might not be recognizable by NAV.

A way to test this is to try to open the file with Winzip.  Don't
execute it.  Just see if Winzip can open it.

Better yet, use Power Archiver, since it can recognize nearly all
the formats of all the archivers.  You can download the trial
version of this to test it.

I'm not sure if any of these can open an executable compressed by
pklite or lzexe.  So you might try de-compressing it with those.
I'm not sure if there are any other executable compressors around.

Barry

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At 10/15/02-10:10 AM, Andrew <andrewaa@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
>I have a theory, and it's not a theory that I like.
>The thing that caught my eye was the text:
>"Subject: EVLN(diesel HEVs will go on sale within about a year)".
>This is a posting from the electric vehicles list which I subscribe to.
>I had not saved this item as text but it might have been sitting in my
>in box.
>Then when Avi and Dr. Nat said that old addresses had been spoofed I
>remembered that I have been saving useful posts from this list in a text
>file.
>I found  tps-seti@wanadoo in that file but not davidlee34@attbi.com.

What about "sponsor  a*t  ftel.net"? This is the OLD email address I used
to post on the list.

>I believe that some viruses will scan text files for addresses but I
>don't know if they would pull text out of a Netscape mail folder.

Good question.

>Next I updated Norton AntiVirus 2001 and scanned the computer. Nothing
>came up.

Is the update dated after October or so? I think this is when they got
serious about cleaning that virus out.

>Anyway unless someone else here also subscribes to the EV list I would
>seem to be the most likely source....

Maybe.

>I am running Win98 Lite with Windows Scripting Host turned off and I
>don't have outlook installed.

What is Win98 lite?

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Hertrich"
> Tue, 15.10.02 10:21 AM +0200
>
> Playing with numlock, I just made an interesting observation:
> The "command"
> /*
> at the DOS prompt triggers an MS-DOS version information. Is this a bug
> or a feature? ;-) And are there other such "commands" which do
> something interesting?
>
> GTX
> daniel
**************************************
Daniel et al,
I just shelled out to DOS with the CTRL-123 combination.  After running the
/*<enter> combination I was unable return to System Manager either from
typing "exit" or trying to run "200" again.  No error messages, just a
failure to respond to my command.  I am able to switch to a different
Software Carousel session though.  I had to reboot to get System Manager to
run again.
If I completely exit System Manager by "more", "apps", "terminate all", I
can run the "/*" combination and then type 200 to successfully return to
System Manager.
Can someone give me an explanation of this behavior.  It's got me puzzled.
Thanks,
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Date:         Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:55:46 +0200
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Hi Jack,

04h ago Jack Skelley wrote:

> Test mode doesn't work.
> Every once in a while when the unit is running its init and I press on/off the
> unit shuts off. But then it will not turn on again. This is every once in a long
> while. There is no consistency or pattern I can see or detect.
> What makes me nuts is the fact that I got through the init form once complete
> with owner data and brought up the program manager.
> I checked the pressure on the keyboard contacts and all appears ok.
> When I hold down on and plug in the ac adapter the unit does not init.
> I'm afraid it's time to place the box in the sock drawer and see if I can find
> another that is not too pricey...

Strange.
What I would try before I gave up on this machine, is to put it into an
oven at about 40 degree Celsus, not more, for some hours.
Then put it into a tight box with lots of silica gel, which should suck
every single molecule of water which _can_ be sucked form outside, and
then try again.
The above would even work more efficient if you disasseble the machine
and treat the single parts as above, maybe leaving out the screen, only
dry the keyboard and the mainboard...

If it is still water causing such problems, it should be eliminated
then.

Good luck
daniel

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Ian Butler wrote:
> you coat the tip of the wire with a thin layer of solder, set
> the wire down on the pin and touch the top of the wire briefly,
> and it bonds to the pin nicely.  Of course, if you leave too
> much solder on the wire tip, you risk shorting out nearby pins.

What I always do in spite of it being anathema to electronicians is use
a smear of soldering grease. It raises the surface tensionf of the clean
unoxidized solder and draws it back from between the pads and pins. Of
course with sensitive units like these I use plenty of spray can wash
afterwords.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> The "command" /*  at the DOS prompt triggers an MS-DOS
> version information. Is this a bug

No it doesn't - it's far weirder than that. I just tried it out and what
it does do seems to be to load a second overlay of DOS. To get back ti
the start screen I had to enter "exit" twice. Anything sensible one
might use that for?

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Hi Axel,

06m ago Axel Berger wrote:

> No it doesn't - it's far weirder than that. I just tried it out and what
> it does do seems to be to load a second overlay of DOS. To get back ti

YES! Really!

> the start screen I had to enter "exit" twice. Anything sensible one
> might use that for?

Mysterious! After executing /*, mem /c shows


Conventional Memory :

  Name                Size in Decimal       Size in Hex
-------------      ---------------------   -------------
  MSDOS             111696      (109.1K)      1B450
  *                   2816      (  2.8K)        B00
  DOSED               3392      (  3.3K)        D40
  FREE                  96      (  0.1K)         60
  FREE              533168      (520.7K)      822B0

Total  FREE :       533264      (520.8K)

Total bytes available to programs :                           533264   (520.8K)
Largest executable program size :                             532992   (520.5K)

   7340032 bytes total EMS memory
    442368 bytes free EMS memory


What's this 2816 bytes "*" program??? doesn't seem to be a complete
command.com...

GTX
daniel


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bob,

it seems like it starts a new shell
type exit and you will return to the shell you were in before
then type exit again to return to the system manager

anyway, when I'm into a dos session, and I did /*, I still can return to the
sysmgr by pressing any of the blue keys (or other hotkeys).

this is how it goes on my 700lx

Niels

[n]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Penick" <bnj@MYREALBOX.COM>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: /*


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Hertrich"
> > Tue, 15.10.02 10:21 AM +0200
> >
> > Playing with numlock, I just made an interesting observation:
> > The "command"
> > /*
> > at the DOS prompt triggers an MS-DOS version information. Is this a bug
> > or a feature? ;-) And are there other such "commands" which do
> > something interesting?
> >
> > GTX
> > daniel
> **************************************
> Daniel et al,
> I just shelled out to DOS with the CTRL-123 combination.  After running
the
> /*<enter> combination I was unable return to System Manager either from
> typing "exit" or trying to run "200" again.  No error messages, just a
> failure to respond to my command.  I am able to switch to a different
> Software Carousel session though.  I had to reboot to get System Manager
to
> run again.
> If I completely exit System Manager by "more", "apps", "terminate all", I
> can run the "/*" combination and then type 200 to successfully return to
> System Manager.
> Can someone give me an explanation of this behavior.  It's got me puzzled.
> Thanks,
> bob
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oh my previous post is not really right I see now...

this is really wEiRd ;)


I start finding an ordinary dos box now.... :)

on my win98 box (boot to dos) it didn't work

i however remember an old dos bootdisk somewhere...
too bad... it had rested too long and is corrupted
I DO have images of older dosversions but i first got to find me an image
writer ;)

you'll hear from me...

ow btw there is also that /con/con exploit (you could put that in an url and
if someone clicked it, the computer crashed (provided it runs dos somehow,
so win9x was affected)..this was a bug, where /* seems to be a feature ;)
more info on the con/con thing here:
http://www.virushelp.org/html/con_con_test_page.html
i was not able to repoduce it, probably because my win98 box is running the
second edtion which may contain the fix privided on the page. It also won't
work on your dear palmtop.

Niels

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Hertrich" <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: /*


> Hi Axel,
>
> 06m ago Axel Berger wrote:
>
> > No it doesn't - it's far weirder than that. I just tried it out and what
> > it does do seems to be to load a second overlay of DOS. To get back ti
>
> YES! Really!
>
> > the start screen I had to enter "exit" twice. Anything sensible one
> > might use that for?
>
> Mysterious! After executing /*, mem /c shows
>
>
> Conventional Memory :
>
>   Name                Size in Decimal       Size in Hex
> -------------      ---------------------   -------------
>   MSDOS             111696      (109.1K)      1B450
>   *                   2816      (  2.8K)        B00
>   DOSED               3392      (  3.3K)        D40
>   FREE                  96      (  0.1K)         60
>   FREE              533168      (520.7K)      822B0
>
> Total  FREE :       533264      (520.8K)
>
> Total bytes available to programs :                           533264
(520.8K)
> Largest executable program size :                             532992
(520.5K)
>
>    7340032 bytes total EMS memory
>     442368 bytes free EMS memory
>
>
> What's this 2816 bytes "*" program??? doesn't seem to be a complete
> command.com...
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Niels" Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: /*


> bob,
>
> it seems like it starts a new shell
> type exit and you will return to the shell you were in before
> then type exit again to return to the system manager
>
> anyway, when I'm into a dos session, and I did /*, I still can return to
the
> sysmgr by pressing any of the blue keys (or other hotkeys).
>
> this is how it goes on my 700lx
>
> Niels
**************************************************
Thanks Niels,
I figured this out after Axel posted what he had to do to return to system
manager.
I believe that when I first tried this I executed the /* several times
before I tried getting back to system manager.  I didn't type "exit" enough
times to finally clear things up.
To test, I just shelled out to DOS and executed the /* 5 times and then had
to type "exit" 6 times to get system manager to come up again.
Thanks and sorry for posting before I had tried enough options.
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Daniel:
The box is bone dry...
I've had it apart and there is no liquid remaining. I even though there could be some
water under some of the chips causing a short of some kind but there doesn't appear to
be any.
But I did hold a hair dyer on the board on very low heat for some time and still no
luck.
Thanks for the suggestion...
Regards,

Jack Skelley
skelley@newjerseydevils.com



Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi Jack,
>
> 04h ago Jack Skelley wrote:
>
> > Test mode doesn't work.
> > Every once in a while when the unit is running its init and I press on/off the
> > unit shuts off. But then it will not turn on again. This is every once in a long
> > while. There is no consistency or pattern I can see or detect.
> > What makes me nuts is the fact that I got through the init form once complete
> > with owner data and brought up the program manager.
> > I checked the pressure on the keyboard contacts and all appears ok.
> > When I hold down on and plug in the ac adapter the unit does not init.
> > I'm afraid it's time to place the box in the sock drawer and see if I can find
> > another that is not too pricey...
>
> Strange.
> What I would try before I gave up on this machine, is to put it into an
> oven at about 40 degree Celsus, not more, for some hours.
> Then put it into a tight box with lots of silica gel, which should suck
> every single molecule of water which _can_ be sucked form outside, and
> then try again.
> The above would even work more efficient if you disasseble the machine
> and treat the single parts as above, maybe leaving out the screen, only
> dry the keyboard and the mainboard...
>
> If it is still water causing such problems, it should be eliminated
> then.
>
> Good luck
> daniel
>
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I just got another "Rejected posting to HPLX-L" message.  Here is the
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can help track down the infected user.

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hello oliver

i'm all for it too !

a few comments :

1. its impractical to have the parts move to
a physical location at one place. so this
virtual shop is the right solution

2. i feel that reality is not 'swapping' only.
i need a place where i can buy/sell/exchange/
donate/loan/borrow .. a place which is more
of a focal point like the metal/commodities/oil/
stock/money exchanges .. maybe an LxX(change)

3. i have a lot of items which i can offer/swap..
and would be very happy if i can do it online
at the website .. place the details there without
going thru the circuitous route of emailing to
webmaster

4. a small commission for the webmaster is
right .. keeps him happy .. as all things 'free'
are
never appreciated by people .. like church, air,
water, sunshine, moonlight, love, faith, intellect
..
we recognize only when it gets a nobel prize !

..pk

(daniel and oliver's efforts are 'free' and
i hereby salute their good efforts and intentions
!
anyone else 'CARE' to record their concurrence ?)

----- Original Message -----
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> Hi,
>
> just a small correction:
> It's www.nygmatech.de/swapshop.html
> Sorry for the typo and thanks to Daniel for
finding it - so there is
> at least one interested listmember ;-)
>
> regards,
> Oliver
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> Subject: Re: virus, could it be me?
> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 09:09:49 -0500
> From: Avi Meshar <hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM>
>
> What about "sponsor  a*t  ftel.net"? This is the OLD email address I used
> to post on the list.

Yes that address is in the text file.

> >Next I updated Norton AntiVirus 2001 and scanned the computer. Nothing
> >came up.
>
> Is the update dated after October or so? I think this is when they got
> serious about cleaning that virus out.
>
I didn't check the update date, just downloaded it from the Symatec site
and installed it.
I'm going to be traveling 10/16 to 10/20 so whatever it is will have to
make do with a sporadic modem connection till then.
When I get back I'll repeat the update/scan and report back.

>
> >I am running Win98 Lite with Windows Scripting Host turned off and I
> >don't have outlook installed.
>
> What is Win98 lite?
>
Win98 Lite is a custom installer that gives you much more control over
what parts of Windows you install. For instance you can have the OS
without the browser (in spite of what MS claims).
Check out <www.litepc.com> for details.
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Hi Niels

11h30m ago Niels wrote:

> i however remember an old dos bootdisk somewhere...
> too bad... it had rested too long and is corrupted
> I DO have images of older dosversions but i first got to find me an image
> writer ;)

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/bootdisks
there is also an image writer.


GTX
daniel


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Hi Zoran

2 days 06h39m ago Zoran Vignjevic wrote:

> Can I use 200LX with Siemens ME45 to connect to my linux mail server
> with fixed phone dial-up connection, but without GPRS?

Yes, of course. If the ME45 has an IR port (don't know right now), you
can use WWW/LX to use the IrDA port, otherwise you need a data cable
and can use any software.

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx
provides details.

GTX
daniel

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> eh - just tried it once more, and now it works. I hvae numlock in
> autoexec.bat, so it is loaded for every SC session and activated /
> deactivated for each session seperately.

if you load NUMLOCK before SC, you only have the program
running once, and deactivating it in any SC session means
deactivation for every SC session.

> When numlock is LOADED...
> ... shift doesnt have any effect on *, - and +.

that's true, because NUMLOCK not only replaces the number keys
with cursor keys but emulates the grey AT keypad. I did it that
way to enable programs for the palmtop written with an
AT keyboard in mind.

Which mapping NUMLOCK does is written in the technical part of
NUMLOCK.DOC, but I know, its always hard to read the docs ;-)

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> Mysterious! After executing /*, mem /c shows
>
>
> Conventional Memory :
>
>   Name                Size in Decimal       Size in Hex
> -------------      ---------------------   -------------
>   MSDOS             111696      (109.1K)      1B450
>   *                   2816      (  2.8K)        B00
>   DOSED               3392      (  3.3K)        D40
>   FREE                  96      (  0.1K)         60
>   FREE              533168      (520.7K)      822B0
>
> Total  FREE :       533264      (520.8K)
>
> Total bytes available to programs :                           533264
(520.8K)
> Largest executable program size :                             532992
(520.5K)
>
>    7340032 bytes total EMS memory
>     442368 bytes free EMS memory
>
>
> What's this 2816 bytes "*" program??? doesn't seem to be a complete
> command.com...
>

It seems that "/*" is an alias for "command".

Execute one after the other, then run "mem /c". You'll see that both "*"
and "command" weigh 2816 bytes.

Does this alias exist in other versions of DOS? What other DOS command
aliases exist?

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The Compaq MS-DOS 5.0 in my LTE/Lite 25 laptop does not have it. Gives a
"Bad command or file name" error.

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<snip>

It seems that "/*" is an alias for "command".

Execute one after the other, then run "mem /c". You'll see that both "*"
and "command" weigh 2816 bytes.

Does this alias exist in other versions of DOS? What other DOS command
aliases exist?

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My 95LX (Dos 3.22) does have /* as an alias. Maybe it's just an HPLX thing.

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The Compaq MS-DOS 5.0 in my LTE/Lite 25 laptop does not have it. Gives a
"Bad command or file name" error.

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<snip>

It seems that "/*" is an alias for "command".

Execute one after the other, then run "mem /c". You'll see that both "*"
and "command" weigh 2816 bytes.

Does this alias exist in other versions of DOS? What other DOS command
aliases exist?

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Niels <hp700lx\100SOFTHOME.NET> wrote:
> i however remember an old dos bootdisk somewhere...

/* results in "Bad command or file name" for IBM DOS 5.0 and MS-DOS
6.22.

-Frank McConnell

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Thanks for all the suggestions and help.   A very kind person (Tom
Salwasser) volunteered to write a small program to take care of the original
problem (which I have).   He is currently working on ascii outlines
conversions between MindManager (MindMap) for Windows, Bonsai for Palm,
Grandview for DOS, and MinMapLX.  This will eventually include conversion of
notes as well!   It is a work in progress, stay tuned.

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On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Bruce Martin wrote:

> It seems that "/*" is an alias for "command".
>
> Execute one after the other, then run "mem /c". You'll see that both "*"
> and "command" weigh 2816 bytes.


Also, both "/* /?" and "command /?" give the same output.

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People, you are killing me me with this /* !!!
Sorry. I really cannot not resist, but this
is the true feeling in me.  :)

You are playing all the time some 7-accord
on the list and never resolve it. I'm begging
the very last one in this thread to put a "*/"
in the subject line!!!

You know, I program from time to time in the
language called C.  For one day or two many
years ago, I almost got crazy because my program
did not compile and I did not understand at all
what the compiler was telling me what's wrong ....

The whole day, or more, ... until I put my C
codes into a syntax-highlighted editor and found
out that my comment was not closed. The line
looked like this:

/************************************ /

and the following big fragment of my codes
all became comments!

So, please forgive me for my /*-fobia. :)
Ok, I'll look into the thread to see what's
going on. This made me curious ...

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> 1. its impractical to have the parts move to
> a physical location at one place. so this
> virtual shop is the right solution

That's what I thought...

> 2. [...] maybe an LxX(change)

Hey, that sounds much better than "swap shop" ;-)

> 3. i have a lot of items which i can offer/swap..
> and would be very happy if i can do it online
> at the website .. place the details there without
> going thru the circuitous route of emailing to
> webmaster

There's no input form yet and there is (and will be) no database
behind it; it's just plain html. I can, howewer can set up a form that
sends the inputs as eMail to me. Convenient to use for you, not much
work for me.

> (daniel and oliver's efforts are 'free' and
> i hereby salute their good efforts and intentions

I doubt that I will ever be able to contribute that much time,
efforts, ideas and whatever else than Daniel so stop saluting me ;-))

regards,
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Hi all,

Please forgive a repeat question (I promise to put the answer on a
sticky-note on my monitor, since I ask this about once every two years ...
at least we know the shelf-life of my "wet-ware" RAM <grin>).

When I take a spreadsheet from the LX and open it in Excel, all the cell
borders dissappear. I'd like them to reappear.

I've done "format" "borders" (tab) and added borders to them all, but those
print. How do I just get them back on the screen in their (default for
Excel) non-printable form?

TIA for any help!

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Date:         Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:39:22 +1300
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Just a thought for those of you looking to upgrade your LX:
I've noticed that 1MB models go for almost nothing on ebay lately.
One in very nice order went for $62 a couple of days ago, and there
is one for sale now that has only reached $63 with a day to go.
Sure, they aren't much good as they stand, but if you are thinking of
getting your LX upgraded by Thaddeus, but can't live without it for the
time they take, buying a cheap 1MB and sending that to them might
be a nice option. I'd do it myself but most of the sellers aren't able to
cope with sending anything outside the US.

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In Excel 97, here's what you do. It may or may not be the same in later
versions of Excel.

To get non-printing grid lines, click on "Options" in the "Tools" menu,
click the "View" tab, then check "Gridlines" under "Window options."

Incidentally, you can force printing of these grid lines by checking the
appropriate option in the "Page Setup" dialog box.

HTH,
Larry Mittell


At 01:34 PM 10/16/2002, Tim wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Please forgive a repeat question (I promise to put the answer on a
>sticky-note on my monitor, since I ask this about once every two years ...
>at least we know the shelf-life of my "wet-ware" RAM <grin>).
>
>When I take a spreadsheet from the LX and open it in Excel, all the cell
>borders dissappear. I'd like them to reappear.
>
>I've done "format" "borders" (tab) and added borders to them all, but those
>print. How do I just get them back on the screen in their (default for
>Excel) non-printable form?
>
>TIA for any help!
>
>--tim
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I never found that much difference in the usefulness of my 1 meg
and my 2 meg units.  I guess if you don't have a flash card there'd
be a pretty big difference. And I guess a lot depends on what you
do with them.

Barry

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> Just a thought for those of you looking to upgrade your LX:
> I've noticed that 1MB models go for almost nothing on ebay
lately.
> One in very nice order went for $62 a couple of days ago, and
there
> is one for sale now that has only reached $63 with a day to go.
> Sure, they aren't much good as they stand, but if you are
thinking of
> getting your LX upgraded by Thaddeus, but can't live without it
for the
> time they take, buying a cheap 1MB and sending that to them might
> be a nice option. I'd do it myself but most of the sellers aren't
able to
> cope with sending anything outside the US.
>
> Cheers...Roger
>
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Barry wrote:
>I never found that much difference in the usefulness of my 1 meg
>and my 2 meg units.  I guess if you don't have a flash card there'd
>be a pretty big difference. And I guess a lot depends on what you
>do with them.
True, the only time I found my original 2MB wanting was when I wanted
to use Goin' Postal. GP had to be on the C disk so I could use my
PCMCIA modem. That meant removing most of what I had on C.
I guess GP might not even fit on the C disk of a 1MB.
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Hi Rudi

10h44m ago Nan-shan Chen wrote:

> People, you are killing me me with this /* !!!

I'm very sorry, I surely didn't intend to kill someone with this
thread. ;-)

GTX
daniel

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Hi Stefan

17h48m ago stefan.peichl@GENION.DE wrote:

> if you load NUMLOCK before SC, you only have the program
> running once, and deactivating it in any SC session means
> deactivation for every SC session.

Yes, you are right of course. And that was probably the reason why I
thought it doesn't behave consistentially. I switched it off in another
session and thought it shoud be on in the original one. :-)

> that's true, because NUMLOCK not only replaces the number keys
> with cursor keys but emulates the grey AT keypad. I did it that
> way to enable programs for the palmtop written with an
> AT keyboard in mind.

Ah, okay.

Thanks
daniel

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Hi Pradeep

1 day 03h30m ago pksharma wrote:

> right .. keeps him happy .. as all things 'free'
> are
> never appreciated by people .. like church, air,
> water, sunshine, moonlight, love, faith, intellect
> ..
> we recognize only when it gets a nobel prize !

...or when it vanishes. So many free services simply vanish some day
and then you have to move either to a commercial service or have to
look for another (worse) free one. :-(

Thanks for your thoughts.

daniel

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> Hi Pradeep

now ... how in the world did you get my real name ? ;-D


> > .. as all things 'free' are never appreciated ...
<snipped>
> > we recognize only when it gets a nobel prize !
>
> ...or when it vanishes.

YEP ! that's when we miss them and appreciate them !
like mother teresa and her love for all and every.


> So many free services simply vanish some day

linux snowballing amazes me .. gotta study it to get THAT magic
reason for its survival.


> and then you have to move either to a commercial service

commerce is just a lot of figures and juggling of figures ..
currency/money was supposed to be only a measure to
replace barter system .. a rather poor measure .. and
doesn't work either .. my god ! .. look at how everything
falls apart with the slightest of disturbance..

9/11 spiralled us economy deep into trouble ..
bali tragedy has destroyed bali economy !
the only economies which still stand are those which are not
economies in the first place ..


> or have to  look for another (worse) free one. :-(

yeah .. that too is true ! :-((

>
> Thanks for your thoughts.

thanks for your kind comments .. acidic ones are the rule ..
normally !

..pk

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Bruce Martin wrote:
> It seems that "/*" is an alias for "command".
...
> Does this alias exist in other versions of DOS? What other DOS command
> aliases exist?

It doesn't exist in IBM PC DOS 5.0 running on my desktop.

Cheers... Russ

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Larry said:
...

>To get non-printing grid lines, click on "Options" in the "Tools" menu,
>click the "View" tab, then check "Gridlines" under "Window options."

Works in Office 2000's version of Excel too.

Thanks!

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Friends,

I just obtained an Accurite Travel Floppy 144 drive with is's associated PassportCard PCMCIA card from Surplus Computer Sales (as found earlier by Bob Penick on this list).  They were good to business with, but (as they clearly indicated on their ad) the
drive did not come with a 120VAC power supply or driver disk.  I can get a power supply, but I have not been able to find a driver file to download, even from Accurite's site.
Does anyone know where I might obtain the DOS driver for the Accurite Travel Floppy that will work with my HP200LX?

Thanks for your help,
    Bob Pigford

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I just obtained an Accurite Travel Floppy 144 drive
with is's associated PassportCard PCMCIA card from Surplus Computer&nbsp;Sales
(as found earlier by Bob Penick on this list).&nbsp; They were good to business
with, but (as they clearly indicated on their ad) the drive did not come with a
120VAC power supply or driver disk.&nbsp; I can get a power supply, but I have
not been able to find a driver file to download, even from Accurite's
site.</FONT></DIV>
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driver for the Accurite Travel Floppy that will work with my
HP200LX?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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I lost my HP200LX (32M DS) after 5 years of intensive use.
It started consuming batteries very fast (a pair of alcalines in  one day)
and now a group of keys do not respond (Enter is one of them).

I went into PalmOS world, but now I have a problem: I cannot read my
SECDEV.VOL volume created with SecureDevice 1.4!
I have an up-to-date copy from the last backup, that I was using in the HPLX
before it died.

I tried to install the device driver secdev.sys in config.sys of my
Windows98 box, but it says that the secdev.vol file is of an invalid format
and cannot be read.

I tried to create a bootable floppy with secdev.sys in it, but the result is
the same.

Do I need to get an old copy of DOS 5 into a floppy to run it?
Are there any special attributes that the secdev.vol file has to have?

Any help is appreciated!

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None out there using 200LX with MS Outlook? So far not a single reply,
and it can't be that none is using curtis program..Or?

Jorgen
--------------------------
> Hi there,
>
> I have installed Curtis Cameron's MS Outlook to HP LX Converter 3.03
> and looks like it works great- except for converting an appointment to
> my 200LX, since the Location of the meeting is left out. I just get an
> empty field in my 200LX appointment book. But when I open the file,
> using PE, I can see that the Location is in there- but must then be
> mapped wrongly...?
>
> If I convert an appointment from 200LX to MS Outlook- everything works =
fine.
>
> Anyone seen this problem? If it works fine for you- which OS and which
> version of Outlook are you using?
>
> I have tried to get in contact with Curtis for some time now, but
> without success. How can he be reached?
>
> Without knowing the Location for the meeting, this setup is kind of
> useless to me. And since it's a great program, I would like to get it
> going... :-)
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> Jorgen
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Bob,
Disconnect the drive from the passport card.  Reboot the LX and the passpor=
t card will show up as A:.
On it you will find an install batch file.  (Not quite sure what it is call=
ed right now because I'm home and my drive is at work.)  I think it looks=
 similar to hp?????.bat.
After you run the install, power off and connect the drive.  Reboot and you=
 should see it (if you have power for it, it should show up as F: or G:).=
  If you have a 32, 64 or 96 MB drive you will need to copy the lines add=
ed to your config.sys to the one on the other drive.
If this doesn't make sense, let me know and I'll restate the process in the=
 morning when I've a fresh and clear mind.
Later,
bob

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From: Bob Pigford <rpigford3@COMCAST.NET>
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:22:47 -0400
Subject: Accurite travel floppy driver for HP200LX

Friends,

I just obtained an Accurite Travel Floppy 144 drive with is's associated Pa=
ssportCard PCMCIA card from Surplus Computer Sales (as found earlier by B=
ob Penick on this list).  They were good to business with, but (as they c=
learly indicated on their ad) the drive did not come with a 120VAC power =
supply or driver disk.  I can get a power supply, but I have not been abl=
e to find a driver file to download, even from Accurite's site.
Does anyone know where I might obtain the DOS driver for the Accurite Trave=
l Floppy that will work with my HP200LX?

Thanks for your help,
    Bob Pigford

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Hi Paulo

08h46m ago Paulo Cust=F3dio wrote:

> I tried to create a bootable floppy with secdev.sys in it, but the resu=
lt is
> the same.
>=20
> Do I need to get an old copy of DOS 5 into a floppy to run it?
> Are there any special attributes that the secdev.vol file has to have?

My Secdev file has all the attributes - SHR.

GTX
daniel

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no one has any idea nor can report the same problem...? this IS quite
scary...

[n]
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Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:27 PM
Subject: Screen flicker on 700lx


> Hello y'all
>
> I was fiddling a bit with datacom on my 700lx and a desktop acting as a
> remote server. On the server there is some program installed (winphone)
> which handles voice, fax and data calls. As far as I tried the voice and
fax
> things work nice. But I did not yet figure out how the data system works,
so
> I dug up my nokia, plugged it into my lx and fired up datacom.
>     Once datacom started, i did a simple atdt<my phone number here> and
> called into my desktop. It picked up nicely and told my I was calling an
> automated system and that I could send a file (nice! now THAT is handy!).
It
> asked me to pick a protocol, so I said zmodem. Some weird looking stuff
came
> back, looked like some config strings. I did file/protocol/zmodem on the
LX,
> and file/transfer. I picked a random ascii text file from my drive and hit
> enter. A dialog came up telling me the LX was trying to send the file.
While
> it was trying to do so, my screen flickered.... it went darker (altough
not
> completely dark) and returned to normal quickly. This keeps happening
until
> i press cancel. Sometimes it's just a little, sometimes the screen becomes
> pretty dark.
>     I don't think it's EMI, for 1) the 700lx is made for datacom with gsm
> and 2) i've never seen this before, even during longer sessions.
>     This is pretty scary, I mean, I don't like it if my precious hp starts
> going weird.... Does anyone of you know how this can happen, or what the
> problem is? has anyone had the same problem?
>
> thanks in advance for your comments!
>
>
> Niels
>
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> Behalf Of Paulo Cust=F3dio
> Sent: 17 October 2002 23:16
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: How to open SecDev volume in Windows 98?
>=20
> I went into PalmOS world, but now I have a problem: I cannot=20
> read my SECDEV.VOL volume created with SecureDevice 1.4! I=20
> have an up-to-date copy from the last backup, that I was=20
> using in the HPLX before it died.
>=20
> I tried to install the device driver secdev.sys in config.sys=20
> of my Windows98 box, but it says that the secdev.vol file is=20
> of an invalid format and cannot be read.

My hazy recollection from when I tried the same is that SECDEV requires
the volume to be on a FAT drive - not FAT32. I think I created a
separate FAT partition. You may need to boot to proper DOS mode rather
than just opening a DOS window - can't remember. I only tried it to see
if it worked, but I'm pretty certain I was successful.

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It does not need special attributes. I removed them because of backups =
and
it works.
I would try to copy secdev.vol to floppy if it fits. May be it doesn't =
like
FAT32?

Radek



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Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 9:05 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: How to open SecDev volume in Windows 98?
>=20
> Hi Paulo
>=20
> 08h46m ago Paulo Cust=F3dio wrote:
>=20
> > I tried to create a bootable floppy with secdev.sys in it, but the
result is
> > the same.
> >
> > Do I need to get an old copy of DOS 5 into a floppy to run it?
> > Are there any special attributes that the secdev.vol file has to =
have?
>=20
> My Secdev file has all the attributes - SHR.
>=20
> GTX
> daniel
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Date:         Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:19:26 +0200
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Oh, sorry. I cannot even quote ... ;( :(
(NB! I seem to be sending to the list AS WELL AS privately to you.)

First of all, I have not done the same experiment.

     Pure speculation and nonsenses follow:

Was it a successful file transfer after zmodem? Have you compared
the result?  You may like to Try a binary file and compare the
transfer result. If all is ok.

1. Try to load a TSR which can be used under SysMgr.
   I suggest Stefan's LxPro [1].

2. Activate LxPro *during* the file-transfer.
3. See whether the result is broken.

I'm suggesting the test for checking if the communication
is using polling or is driven by interrupts.  Or does anyone
knows it?  If it should uses polling, the time could be
critical, and the file transfer could be disturbed by
activating LxPro.

Did the programmer of this communication engine reduce
the screen refresh rate for frequenting the polling loop ???
I do not even know if the screen-refreshing occupies
CPU-time or it is done by hardware? :(  Sorry, I don't
have the Developer's Guide with me for the time being.

In case, somebody confirms that screen-refreshing does
occupy the time, the polling loop of the communication
needs, and the above experiment (or some others) tells
us that the transfer be disturbed by LxPro, then we
could come to that, ... my be .... the programer had
done a bad job???  Sory, I'm not sure at all.  I only
try to not leave Niels alone with his problem ...

Rudi


[1] Ok, seems to me that few people like to load this
    TSR to memory, perhaps because it is a LITTLE bit
    larger. But, I've always had it in my memory. Ok,
    I'm not doing especially memory-intensive jobs on
    my 200lx. I only compile mit TCC and MASM under
    DOS.  Although I seldom activate LxPro, I just like
    to have it there with me because the state of art
    programming of LxPro. NB! LxPro will pop-up in ALL
    display modes! And this is very programming-intensive.
    Only those bizzar perfectionists will do this. One
    is for sure, the very-well-known software vendor
    will not be willing to do such jobs for their customers.
    Oh, ...... sorry off topic ...

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In-Reply-To:  <200210181119.NAA29122@getsparc202.uni-paderborn.de> from
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> Oh, sorry. I cannot even quote ... ;( :(
> (NB! I seem to be sending to the list AS WELL AS privately to you.)

Oh, why I can quote this time ?
(NB! I'm replying to the list and the person, myself this time.)

> Was it a successful file transfer after zmodem? Have you compared
> the result?  You may like to Try a binary file and compare the
> transfer result. If all is ok.
>
> 1. Try to load a TSR which can be used under SysMgr.
>    I suggest Stefan's LxPro [1].
>
> 2. Activate LxPro *during* the file-transfer.
> 3. See whether the result is broken.

AND: use LxPro to check the Hornet register to see
if the Frame Rate is changed intentionally. I'm
appending some codes to show which register it is:

void SetFrameRate(char *float_cp)       /* float_cp 1009717040 */
{
  if ( !f_hp || f_95 ) return;

  HzInt = afto2l(float_cp, 3, &HzFrac); /* afto2i() -> afto2l() 1010583337 */
  if ( HzInt >= 5965L || HzInt < 0L ) HzInt = 5965L;    /* 1010583337 */
  HzLong = HzInt * 1000L + HzFrac;
  if ( HzLong < 23300L ) HzLong = 23300L;
  ilong = 5966000L / HzLong;    /* 5966000 = 1193182 / 200 * 1000 */
  if ( ilong > 256L ) ilong = 256L;
  b = (unsigned char) (ilong - 1L);
  SetHornet(0x22, b);
  if ( !f_quiet ) PrnFrameRate();
}


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Date:         Fri, 18 Oct 2002 07:18:35 -0600
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Might the screen flicker be related to an excessive power consumption? I
have a 95LX that gets screen flicker when accessing some (12 volt, IIRC)
Flash RAM cards.

Bob

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From: Niels [mailto:hp700lx@SOFTHOME.NET]
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 3:21 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: Screen flicker on 700lx


no one has any idea nor can report the same problem...? this IS quite
scary...

[n]
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To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:27 PM
Subject: Screen flicker on 700lx

<snip>
> and file/transfer. I picked a random ascii text file from my drive and hit
> enter. A dialog came up telling me the LX was trying to send the file.
While
> it was trying to do so, my screen flickered.... it went darker (altough
not
> completely dark) and returned to normal quickly. This keeps happening
until
> i press cancel. Sometimes it's just a little, sometimes the screen becomes
> pretty dark.
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1 day 06h20m ago pksharma wrote:

> > Hi Pradeep
>
> now ... how in the world did you get my real name ? ;-D

ESP? ;-)

> linux snowballing amazes me .. gotta study it to get THAT magic
> reason for its survival.

I think, where a religion is there is always an anti-religion.
There is Microsoft, so there must be something "anti-Microsoft". And
Linux is the best candidate for that.

In addition, Linux simply is very good for some purposes, as a server
OS in every case, and if you do scientific work, much programming, or
lots of networking, it is also very good as a workstation OS.

GTX
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> I think, where a religion is there is always an anti-religion.
> There is Microsoft, so there must be something "anti-Microsoft".
And
> Linux is the best candidate for that.

I think you're exactly right to use the word "religion".  Not to
say that linux is a religion.  Computing is a religion. Linux is a
demonination.

When I first started in the late 60's, computing, at least as I was
exposed to it, involved a huge beast.  There were no terminals.  If
someone wanted something, they came to us.  We were the priests
that dealt with the beast and the "laymen" had no access except
through us.  We took their "prayers", put them into a form that
would hopefully please the beast, presented them to the beast and
hoped that they would be answered.

Nobody took all this very seriously.  It was a kind of joke we
laughed about.  But it kept coming up.  I think we might have been
a little more serious than we knew.

The only real difference today is that now everyone has their own
"icons" and their own "access" and the importance of the priests is
less obvious.

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FYI & FWIW
Both the Travel Floppy and the Doubleslot cards that Accurite makes (made?)
for the LX have the LX and DOS drivers on the PC Card.  If you plug them
into the LX and then power up, the drivers and install files are available
at any time.  I believe that there were some small variations in the files
included on these cards, with later produced cards having updated files.
Additionally, if you have a Doubleslot and its AC adapter, you do not need
one for the Travel Floppy.  The Doubleslot will power the Travel Floppy
through the PCMCIA card.  Or, the same adapter can be used for either device
when they are used independently.
In the same vein, the Trans-Digital parallel port card (that Thaddeus sells)
also has the DOS drivers for a ZIP 100 parallel drive and some backup
software burned in the ROM.
Later,
bob

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> Bob,
>
> Great info (and a great memory)!  I found the files on the PassPort card
and
> ran the PALMINST.BAT file from DOS.
> I also copied the C:\config.sys "added on text" to my config.sys on my F:
> drive as I do have a 32meg-DS machine.  I do not yet have a powersupply (I
> ordered one tonight from Accurite), but accessing the G: drive from Filer
> starts some drive activity, then crashes my machine, so I think it will
work
> when the power supply arrives.  I'll report back next week after I have a
> power supply.
> Many thanks for your great help.
> Best regards,
>     Bob
>
> ===
>
> Bob,
> Disconnect the drive from the passport card.  Reboot the LX and the
passport
> card will show up as A:.
> On it you will find an install batch file.  (Not quite sure what it is
> called right now because I'm home and my drive is at work.)  I think it
> looks similar to hp?????.bat.
> After you run the install, power off and connect the drive.  Reboot and
you
> should see it (if you have power for it, it should show up as F: or G:).
If
> you have a 32, 64 or 96 MB drive you will need to copy the lines added to
> your config.sys to the one on the other drive.
> Later,
> bob

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Le Thu, 17 Oct 2002 23:15:38 +0100
Paulo Cust=F3dio <paulo.custodio@CLIX.PT> a =E9crit:

> I tried to install the device driver secdev.sys in config.sys of my
> Windows98 box, but it says that the secdev.vol file is of an invalid form=
at
> and cannot be read.

Beside, of the FAT32 problem, one other point is that your volume must
be in an un-fragmented file.=20

If your volume can be kept in a floppy, store it in a new one (in order
to be sur to have only one fragment), and try to access from it.

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On 17 Oct 2002 at 17:14, Roger Whitmarsh wrote:

> Barry wrote:
> >I never found that much difference in the usefulness of my 1 meg
> >and my 2 meg units.  I guess if you don't have a flash card there'd
> >be a pretty big difference. And I guess a lot depends on what you
> >do with them.
> True, the only time I found my original 2MB wanting was when I wanted
> to use Goin' Postal. GP had to be on the C disk so I could use my
> PCMCIA modem. That meant removing most of what I had on C.
> I guess GP might not even fit on the C disk of a 1MB.
> Cheers, Roger

I used a 1MB 100LX for many years with an external modem. It certainly
worked OK, but my 32MB 200LX is more convenient with a PCMCIA modem.
And, it would not be practical to use an Ethernet card with the 1MB LX.

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> I used a 1MB 100LX for many years with an external modem. It
certainly
> worked OK, but my 32MB 200LX is more convenient with a PCMCIA
modem.
> And, it would not be practical to use an Ethernet card with the
1MB LX.

I wasn't saying that 1 meg is enough.  We know already that no-one
will ever need more than 640k. :)

Someone said that a 1 meg LX is useless.  For some people it
probably is.  But there are a lot of people that will get a lot of
use from a 1 meg unit.

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Jacques Belin wrote:
> Beside, of the FAT32 problem, one other point is that your volume must
> be in an un-fragmented file.
>
> If your volume can be kept in a floppy, store it in a new one (in order
> to be sur to have only one fragment), and try to access from it.

It doesn't have to be unfragmented but there is a limit to the
number of pieces (50?).  Your suggestion to use a freshly
formatted diskette is a good one.

Cheers... Russ

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Barry wrote:
> Someone said that a 1 meg LX is useless.  For some people it
> probably is.  But there are a lot of people that will get a lot of
> use from a 1 meg unit.

I just looked. My 2MB 700 with 32 MB flashdisk currently has 900 kB free
on C:. There are about 40 kB in the mandatory C:\_DAT, 200 kB in \DOS
with a lot of utilities most of which could just as well (and do) reside
on A: and 220 kB in \GOINPOST. So I could easily free enaugh room in the
C: of a 1 MB unit to do a run of going postal and read and write
messages with the A: drive reinstalled. The extra MB does save some
hassle, but we here seem to be agreed that substituting computing power
overkill for sensible and intelligent use is not always best.
So yes, in my case 1 MB would do just as well as my 2 MB and I'd hardly
notice the difference.

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Roger Whitmarsh wrote:
> I'd do it myself but most of the sellers aren't able to
> cope with sending anything outside the US.

Just an addendum:
Although most US sellers routinely put the "only inside US" into their
offer, most of them are quite willing to send to Europe if asked nicely
before bidding. I have had several things come to me that way, but the
extra postage was quite substantial, so this route is only sensible for
stuff not to be found this side.
The usual problems of trust also become bigger, though I have only been
stung once by a Canadian who either did not send anything in the first
place or at least was no help at all when his parcel really did get lost
in the post and even refused to answer registered letters.
One reason why I so much prefer doing business with trusted people from
respectable groups like you all.

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> The usual problems of trust also become bigger, though I have
only been
> stung once by a Canadian who either did not send anything in the
first
> place or at least was no help at all when his parcel really did
get lost
> in the post and even refused to answer registered letters.
> One reason why I so much prefer doing business with trusted
people from
> respectable groups like you all.

I had a different set of problems buying a couple of memory cards
for my calculator from a German company.  I had problems with one
and they sent a replacement, which I also had problems with.  They
paid the postage coming to me but I paid the postage sending to
them.  When I had a problem with the third card I decided to blow
it off.  The postage was already more than the card and I decided
not to throw any more money into it.

The company making the cards can be said to be at fault for sending
so many defective cards, but others have bought from them with no
problems.  So I suspect it was just a run of bad luck.  I initially
bought 2 cards and only had problems with one of them and it's
replacements.  I'm still using the other one years later.

So, as I see it, there was really no-one at fault.  But it makes me
very hesitant to buy anything from "over there".

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Hi Barry

03h06m ago Barry wrote:

> I had a different set of problems buying a couple of memory cards
> for my calculator from a German company.  I had problems with one
> and they sent a replacement, which I also had problems with.  They
> paid the postage coming to me but I paid the postage sending to
> them.  When I had a problem with the third card I decided to blow
> it off.  The postage was already more than the card and I decided
> not to throw any more money into it.

Wasn't there a problem with United States Postal Service (USPS) using
some detector machines for Anthrax, which destroyed memory cards?

GTX
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[...] I have only been
> stung once by a Canadian who either did not send anything in the first
> place or at least was no help at all when his parcel really did get lost
> in the post and even refused to answer registered letters.

that is quite nasty... :(
poor you
why would people act like that? Well okay I can figure it out, he now has
your money and you have his nothing so he's happy with that. I won't be
happy stealing s.o.'s money but maybe I'm just to nice a guy...

> One reason why I so much prefer doing business with trusted people from
> respectable groups like you all.

I feel the same on this, as you (axel) may have guessed... (please reply to
your private mail so I can transfer the money)


Hungry now, gotta eat...

bye,


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> > I had a different set of problems buying a couple of memory
cards
> > for my calculator from a German company.  I had problems with
one
> > and they sent a replacement, which I also had problems with.
They
> > paid the postage coming to me but I paid the postage sending to
> > them.  When I had a problem with the third card I decided to
blow
> > it off.  The postage was already more than the card and I
decided
> > not to throw any more money into it.
>
> Wasn't there a problem with United States Postal Service (USPS)
using
> some detector machines for Anthrax, which destroyed memory cards?

That's more recent.  I had this problem 4 or 5 years ago.

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Barry wrote:
> So, as I see it, there was really no-one at fault.  But it makes me
> very hesitant to buy anything from "over there".

Quite, the premium on postage must be worth it. So things like LXs may
well be better bought here even if more expensive. In my case it was
1900 MHz Nokia phones for transatlantic GSM networks, which were only
available there and not at all here and some other stuff like that.

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At 10/19/02-05:18 AM, Axel Berger <Axel-Berger@NEXGO.DE> wrote:
>I just looked. My 2MB 700 with 32 MB flashdisk currently has 900 kB free
>on C:. There are about 40 kB in the mandatory C:\_DAT, 200 kB in \DOS
>with a lot of utilities most of which could just as well (and do) reside
>on A: and 220 kB in \GOINPOST. So I could easily free enaugh room in the
>C: of a 1 MB unit to do a run of going postal and read and write
>messages with the A: drive reinstalled. The extra MB does save some
>hassle, but we here seem to be agreed that substituting computing power
>overkill for sensible and intelligent use is not always best.
>So yes, in my case 1 MB would do just as well as my 2 MB and I'd hardly
>notice the difference.

Not sure about the conclusion. A 1MB machine has a TOTAL of 1MB memory, of
which 640K (a bit less) is allocated to running programs, and 352K or so is
allocated to the C: drive. (You can change the boundary, but that will make
the memory to run programs in smaller, and constrict programs, possibly
creating problems.)

You say 40K in C:1_dat, and 220K in Going Postaland some unspecified amount
may remain from \DOS. That totals to about 260K plus. And that leaves about
90K or less for messages. So unless you are really good about cleaning up
messages and your message-load is not that high, you haven't much room for
anything useful. Is that how you see it?

All the best,

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Avi Meshar wrote:
> And that leaves about 90K or less for messages. So unless
> you are really good about cleaning up messages and your
> message-load is not that high, you haven't much room for
> anything useful. Is that how you see it?

Yes, quite. Those 90 kB need only hold all messages to be sent in the
next run and all those retrieved at the same time. Instantly after
hangup you can reinsert your flash and work there. Due to lack of need I
have not worked out the niceties, but it ought to be very possible.

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> You say 40K in C:1_dat, and 220K in Going Postaland some unspecified amount
> may remain from \DOS. That totals to about 260K plus. And that leaves about
> 90K or less for messages. So unless you are really good about cleaning up
> messages and your message-load is not that high, you haven't much room for
> anything useful. Is that how you see it?

lxeth + sshdos < 100k, nic in the pcmcia slot, unlimited messages :p
also, serial cable to cellphone, datacomm to a machine, ssh from there

i know, not exactly how people expect to use there LX.  but it works and
it leaves space for some light ebook reading.

i have a 1mb 200lx with a broken screen i used for over a year as a light
dns server with one of the ka9q/jnos apps.

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>
> lxeth + sshdos < 100k, nic in the pcmcia slot, unlimited messages :p
> also, serial cable to cellphone, datacomm to a machine, ssh from there

a bit off-topic, but do you know a program which I can use to call in to
with my hp/cellphone using the datacom program, and then use that program to
establish a ssh link to another computer anywhere on the internet? I was
planning on building such an app for I couldn't find one but I seriously
lack some time here.

thanks,


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On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 08:27:19PM +0200, Niels wrote:
> > lxeth + sshdos < 100k, nic in the pcmcia slot, unlimited messages :p
> > also, serial cable to cellphone, datacomm to a machine, ssh from there
>
> a bit off-topic, but do you know a program which I can use to call in to
> with my hp/cellphone using the datacom program, and then use that program to
> establish a ssh link to another computer anywhere on the internet? I was
> planning on building such an app for I couldn't find one but I seriously
> lack some time here.

the way I have it setup, i dail into a unix machine directly via the cell
with datacomm, then ssh from there.  I could alternately run ppp over the
cell and runsshdos from the LX, but that's overkill for my needs.

you may want to look into getting an isp with dailups and shell access.

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At 10/19/02-01:14 PM, Axel Berger <Axel-Berger@NEXGO.DE> wrote:
>Avi Meshar wrote:
> > And that leaves about 90K or less for messages. So unless
> > you are really good about cleaning up messages and your
> > message-load is not that high, you haven't much room for
> > anything useful. Is that how you see it?
>
>Yes, quite. Those 90 kB need only hold all messages to be sent in the
>next run and all those retrieved at the same time.

Not so fast! <G> If you send 90K of messages, you cannot receive any
because I assume PG does not delete them after sending them out. I know I
am nitpicking. My point is to make sure that people see that it is REALLY
hard to make the 1MB useful with email. You really need more room to make
it practical.

>  Instantly after
>hangup you can reinsert your flash and work there. Due to lack of need I
>have not worked out the niceties, but it ought to be very possible.

Possible but not really practical. It really should be noted that to make
these devices practical you need more space. However, if you use an
external modem (not PCMCIA) then you can put in a PCMCIA for storage and
presumably a decent program that can use the PCMCIA storage for the messages.

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Avi Meshar wrote:
> Not so fast! <G> If you send 90K of messages,

Have you ever written and sent anything near 90 kB in one go? At 73
letters per line and our limit of 140 lines, this is at least 9
messages, with our normal actual length many more. And looking more
closely at least 35 kB more can be trimmed off the GOINPOST directory. I
never said the 1 MB was ample, but workable, yes.
In the case of the 700 this is especially so. If you use the docked
phone the flash can stay put.

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At 10/19/02-02:59 PM, Axel Berger <Axel-Berger@NEXGO.DE> wrote:
>Avi Meshar wrote:
> > Not so fast! <G> If you send 90K of messages,
>
>Have you ever written and sent anything near 90 kB in one go? At 73
>letters per line and our limit of 140 lines, this is at least 9
>messages, with our normal actual length many more. And looking more
>closely at least 35 kB more can be trimmed off the GOINPOST directory. I
>never said the 1 MB was ample, but workable, yes.
>In the case of the 700 this is especially so. If you use the docked
>phone the flash can stay put.

yeah, sure I give you this - you are RIGHT! Happier? <VBG>

But now let's talk about real life and about the real world! All this
byte-shaving here and there is pure horse manure, really. The main point,
the important point to make to someone who is looking for the experience
you may have, is that yeah, you can do it, but don't bother, it is not that
practical.  If it is already so important that you carry the smallest
package to do email, than put a few more EUs or $$$ or whatever currency
you want to use and make your life easy and practical.

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> On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 08:27:19PM +0200, Niels wrote:
> > > lxeth + sshdos < 100k, nic in the pcmcia slot, unlimited messages :p
> > > also, serial cable to cellphone, datacomm to a machine, ssh from there
> >
> > a bit off-topic, but do you know a program which I can use to call in to
> > with my hp/cellphone using the datacom program, and then use that
program to
> > establish a ssh link to another computer anywhere on the internet? I was
> > planning on building such an app for I couldn't find one but I seriously
> > lack some time here.
>
> the way I have it setup, i dail into a unix machine directly via the cell
> with datacomm, then ssh from there.

uh-oh
linux
it scares me ;)
but... I still have an ancient p100 doing nothing so how about making it
usefull? yeah!

> I could alternately run ppp over the
> cell and runsshdos from the LX, but that's overkill for my needs.

indeed, that's the only solution for me at the moment and too much hassle, I
think.

>
> you may want to look into getting an isp with dailups and shell access.

Something I allready started to do. Cannot find one. Long ago, there was. I
used that service, before I got real internet at home. The good thing was,
it was free! Can you imagine...totally free, such a cool service! Another
good thing is, at the moment, they offer their services for less then E2 a
month. But the bad thing is, they only do PPP now... They still offer their
shell access, over SSH, and that's what I wanted to build that program
for...


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Hello listmembers,

Due to several non-reactions ( and very little time for  refurbishing
anymore - new job)
I still have the following available for sale ( or barter - seen bottom):

3 each of: 200LX with good screen and keyboard, 1 or 2MB ( first come first
serve) ,
unused manuals, 448MB Silicontech SLATFL448 PCMCIA flash ( yes, about half a
gig, half filled with LX sw.). Well glued hingecrack, decent battery cover,
but guaranteed complete.
 280 Euro / 290 USD including worldwide insured shipping. Paypal or direct
bank transfer or cash.
Collected at my home (South of the Netherlands) they come (a lot) cheaper,
and with extra's <G>

3 each: Original 200LX Connectivity kit: 3 diskettes plus manual - no cable
or adapters.
USD 35 including shipping. With connectivity cable USD 60.
Shipping by padded envelope. Insurance extra.

1 each: Intellilink for Windows 3.41 - 3 diskettes plus manual, Euro/USD 35
including shipping

1 each: Original 100LX connectivity kit - 1 diskette plus manual - make me
an offer or convince me of your urgent need <VBG>. Original 95LX ditto.

For you 95LX addicts: 512KB Epson Sram card, 1MB Boeder Sram card, 3 times
2MB Mitsubishi SRAM card, 2MB Mitsubishi EEprom card  ( tested to work in
95LX). Decent offer.

Adapter from 200LX to 95LX ( black thingy) - 1 picture postcard each (
stamped and sent separately, not three in an envelope <G>). Worldwide
postage paid - they are nowhere cheaper.

Definitely last 2: The Elusive Pentax Printer cables ( PocketJet) , known to
be working. EUR/USD 25 including shipping in padded envelope worldwide.
Requires null-modem and connectivity cable - not included.

Lots of loose parts ( loose screws, IR covers, hinge springs,  octagonal
screen connectors, whatever, . but no complete screens or battery covers.)
Inquire.

One IR parallel printer interface. One serial to parallel interface. Offer.

Note that a Yamaha MU10 or MU15 or QY70 are very definitely acceptable as
barter objects. I'd love to convert my DS LX to a portable synthesizer to
use during train rides.

200LX prices are firm (relative to a Yamaha trade-in of course) - rest
negotiable.

(In answer to a question asked recently: I am _not_  giving out names of
satisfied buyers, but you can always ask around on the list and get the
buyers to volunteer comments).

Michel

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Thanks to all answers I got - they put me in the right track, and I was able
to get to my information.

I was able to access the drive after booting from a DOS 6 floppy with secdev
installed.

BTW: broken keyboard: Is there any common fault that causes some of the keys
to not respond?


Paulo

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Hi all-

I'm trying to use a sandisk 32meg flash ata card in my 95LX with the
sundrv drivers and I'm having some trouble.

Possibly unrelated, after leaving the flash card in the 95 overnight, my 2
week old backup battery is reported as low. (the AA batteries are
fine)-This could be totally unrelated but seems odd.

I've installed the drivers as best I can tell they should be installed.
(copied via xmodem, run the install.bat) and when I try and use either the
sformat or sdisk commands, I seem to not get anywhere. I've tried various
drive letters (not c, of course) and I've done a search for
documentation,without finding anything recognizable as a usage or install
guide.

I'm sure I'm missing something basic.....

-Christof

(yep, new to this list. I'm an hp progammable nut and a general
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My trouble seems to be the 95LX!

I got the flashdisk working, sort of. When copying files from c: I ended
up with a drive fail on C:
And now the 2 hour old backup battery is being reported as low. (both
batteries measure 2.89 to 2.91 V on my meter)

So, something appears ot be going wrong internally.....

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Has anyone used SiPix's Pocket printer A6 with the HP200LX?  I have not been
able to find a DOS driver for it yet.

                                                          Dan

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> I remeber hearing that the 95LX will continue to supply power to the
> flash disk even when turned off. You have to remember to remove the
> flash card every time you power off the unit.

Ahso-- well, in that case, does anyone know if there's any hack to fix
this, or how much power is drawn by the flash card (obviously enough to
kill a backup battery in 20 minutes!)

thx,
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When I try to load it I get error messages saying insufficient RAM.

Thanks,

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Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 11:01 PM
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> > I remeber hearing that the 95LX will continue to supply power
to the
> > flash disk even when turned off. You have to remember to remove
the
> > flash card every time you power off the unit.
>
> Ahso-- well, in that case, does anyone know if there's any hack
to fix
> this, or how much power is drawn by the flash card (obviously
enough to
> kill a backup battery in 20 minutes!)

I remember back in the heyday of the 95lx a lot of people used
flash cards.  I don't recall this problem being mentioned but I
didn't get a flash card till I got a 100lx so I might not have
noticed.

I can't believe it was that big a problem or no-one would have used
them.

Barry

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There is a report in the list archives that early CF cards would draw
current even when the 95LX was turned "off". My 95LX goes through regular
batteries quite fast, again even when turned off, but that condition exists
even when I take out my 10MB or 20MB SunDisk card, and is with the main
batteries rather than the backup battery.

There have been threads about getting low 95LX backup battery warnings that
cannot be turned off. I don't think there was a good resolution of those
threads, other than to say that someting was wrong internally and the units
in question had to be sent for repairs.

Just a thought, but you might want to check to make sure that the backup
battery contacts are clean. Poor contact with the battery could give you
false low readings.

Bob

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My trouble seems to be the 95LX!

I got the flashdisk working, sort of. When copying files from c: I ended
up with a drive fail on C:
And now the 2 hour old backup battery is being reported as low. (both
batteries measure 2.89 to 2.91 V on my meter)

So, something appears ot be going wrong internally.....

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> There have been threads about getting low 95LX backup battery
warnings that
> cannot be turned off. I don't think there was a good resolution
of those
> threads, other than to say that someting was wrong internally and
the units
> in question had to be sent for repairs.

My original 95lx had that problem.  It began about 2 years after
the warranty was up.  I called HP and said I'd heard (on
Compuserve) that they still repaired that for free.  They wouldn't
discuss it.  I sent it in.  They replaced the motherboard for free.

I guess they just didn't want to commit themselves to that.  It
left me with a nice warm feeling about HP.

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>> There have been threads about getting low 95LX backup battery
> warnings that
>> cannot be turned off.

> My original 95lx had that problem.

So, I guess the questions remaining are whether or not it really affects
functionality and whther or not the flash card really is drawing power
from the backup battery. I suppose I can measure the latter by leaving
everything off for a day or two and metering the batteries.



-Christof
Koyote
Oi!Oi!Oi!

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"Feldman, Robert" wrote:
> but you might want to check to make sure that the backup
> battery contacts are clean. Poor contact with the battery
> could give you false low readings.

Possibly, but I'd say something else must definitely be wrong with the
unit:

> From: Christof Harper [mailto:koyote@NOVYLEN.NET]
> And now the 2 hour old backup battery is being reported as low.
> (both batteries measure 2.89 to 2.91 V on my meter)

Below three volts is dfinitely low for a Li cell. As far as I know, an
LX should never draw draw current from the backup cell as long as any is
to be had from the main batteries, so this 95 must be somehow defective.

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Jimmy,
I use maxdos to run FSB from an aplication Icon

Path looks like:

C:\maxdos.com -s -v3u a:\fsb\fsb.exe/mono|

This loads maxdos in silent mode, and English text mode. and the
mono on the end of the fsb.exe loads in mono mode making it easier to see on the 200lx.

Joe




>Date:Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:46:33 +0800
   >From: "JIMMY TAN" <jimmytan@YEOS.COM.MY>
   >Subject: Genealogy Program

>Hi,

 >Does anyone know how to change the color settings of Family Scrap Book?
 >It'shard to make out anything on the LX's mono screen. Any help would be great.


>Thanks in advance.

>Jimmy.

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 From:    Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
 Subject: /*
>
> Tue, 15.10.02 10:21 AM +0200
>
> Playing with numlock, I just made an interesting observation:
>
> The "command"
>
> /*
>
> at the DOS prompt triggers an MS-DOS version information. Is this a bug
> or a feature? ;-) And are there other such "commands" which do
> something interesting?
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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> http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale
>

The reason it's running is that Command.com's the first entry in the root
directory, which the wildcard expansion's taking care of. The machines
which aren't accepting it are ones with something else, maybe
non-executable, in the current root. Try creating a directory with some
other application as the first file in it, CD to it, and run * from there.

Jon

Jon Barrett
jonzann@altavista.net
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(And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!)
OB900b/W2KP, OB4150b/W2KP, OB800/W98, OB800/W95-Mandrake8
 - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - -

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Date:         Mon, 21 Oct 2002 22:47:31 +0200
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Just cd to my root and do *[enter] gives bad command or filename
I already tried this :)

[n]
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: /* I think */


> ----- Original Message -----
>  Date:    Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:38:53 +0200
>  From:    Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
>  Subject: /*
> >
> > Tue, 15.10.02 10:21 AM +0200
> >
> > Playing with numlock, I just made an interesting observation:
> >
> > The "command"
> >
> > /*
> >
> > at the DOS prompt triggers an MS-DOS version information. Is this a bug
> > or a feature? ;-) And are there other such "commands" which do
> > something interesting?
> >
> > GTX
> > daniel
> >
> > --
> > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact
> > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale
> >
>
> The reason it's running is that Command.com's the first entry in the root
> directory, which the wildcard expansion's taking care of. The machines
> which aren't accepting it are ones with something else, maybe
> non-executable, in the current root. Try creating a directory with some
> other application as the first file in it, CD to it, and run * from there.
>
> Jon
>
> Jon Barrett
> jonzann@altavista.net
> Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw!
> (And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!)
> OB900b/W2KP, OB4150b/W2KP, OB800/W98, OB800/W95-Mandrake8
>  - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - -
>
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Date:         Tue, 22 Oct 2002 04:48:40 +0200
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 >Someone said that a 1 meg LX is useless.  For some people it probably is..

*i am writing this on a 1mb SS 100LX using LE editor with super-large font
under XTGOLD in pure DOS.
*my C shows 360k free because i deleted _dat (just for fun).
everything runs from the 86mb flash in A
*advantages are long battery life and no loss of data
*the 100LX has been running since May 1993 without a single crash, and i
scheduled a birthday party for the event next year  :) ... anyone wanna come
?!? (bring a cake)

Dr.Nat

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Date:         Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:05:48 +0800
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Hi,

I have 2 Appointment Books files. Both with only one appointment (the
same one). The files have the same size, but one of the files doesn't
show the 'Location' for the meeting (but it's in the file).

Anyone familiar with the file format and willing to take a look and
figure out what went wrong in Curtis Cameron's Outlook to HPLX
conversion?

Since I have not got any reply from Curtis for many weeks, I assume we
have to create a fix for the resulting file- so the 'Location' shows up
in 200LX....

Thanks,

Jorgen

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Date:         Tue, 22 Oct 2002 04:55:25 -0400
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Hello list,

It would be really useful if I could get a version of word for my 200lx. I know microsoft published a version but I'm after the latest one. I need the best compatibility and features (tables etc.) I have some interesting stuff to return the favour-
mathcad 2.3, harvard graphics 2.3.

Thanks,
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Date:         Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:00:31 +0200
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There is also a program called cgahlp.com that can be downloaded here:

http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/cgahl130.zip

It is configurable with a *.dat file. I am using mono.dat for an applicati=
on
with very good results. The mono.dat changes the colors to make them pure
b/w but you can also make own *.dat files.

To load cgahlp I use a *.bat file like this:

cgahlp -dmono.dat (no space between d and mono!)
your application to load
cgahlp -r

Hope you have enough memory.

Regards, Jean-Pierre


>>> original message from Joe Buford <<<
> Jimmy,
> I use maxdos to run FSB from an aplication Icon
>
> Path looks like:
>
> C:\maxdos.com -s -v3u a:\fsb\fsb.exe/mono|
>
> This loads maxdos in silent mode, and English text mode. and the
> mono on the end of the fsb.exe loads in mono mode making it easier to =
see on the 200lx.
>
> Joe
>
> >Date:Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:46:33 +0800
>    >From: "JIMMY TAN" <jimmytan@YEOS.COM.MY>
>    >Subject: Genealogy Program
>
> >Hi,
>
>  >Does anyone know how to change the color settings of Family Scrap =
Book?
>  >It'shard to make out anything on the LX's mono screen. Any help would =
be great.
>
> >Thanks in advance.
>
> >Jimmy.
>
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Date:         Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:46:44 +0200
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On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Mike Edwards wrote:

> Hello list,

Hi Mike,

> It would be really useful if I could get a version of word for my 200lx.
> I know microsoft published a version but I'm after the latest one. I
> need the best compatibility and features (tables etc.) I have some
> interesting stuff to return the favour- mathcad 2.3, harvard graphics
> 2.3.

The latest version of Microsoft Word for DOS is the 5.5. Check on Super.

I don't know if you can run the Windows version on a 8086. I don't think
so.

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Date:         Tue, 22 Oct 2002 07:46:42 -0400
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Hey there. I've been happily banging away on my 1mb 95lx for some years
now, and I'd like to "upgrade" to a 100 or 200lx. However, all of them that
I see on ebay seem to go for outrageous prices (ie: $150.00 and up - that
seems outrageous to me when I bought 2 95lx's recently for $40).

Is there some place that sells these poor things for more reasonable prices?

Alternatively, would anybody like to trade? I have a number of PDA's
(EO440, DataRover, PIC1000 and PIC2000, Newton MP100, OMP, etc.) that I
might be willing to part with. I even have a spare 95lx (512k) that I keep
around "just in case."

Thanks for your help,

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Date:         Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:09:25 +0200
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Re erwann's reply to

WinWord 1.1a runs under Windows 3.0.
Lemme see: Real mode, 237K free after starting Winword on the LX.

Michel

>
> > It would be really useful if I could get a version of word for
> my 200lx.
> > I know microsoft published a version but I'm after the latest
> one. I
> The latest version of Microsoft Word for DOS is the 5.5. Check on
> Super.
> I don't know if you can run the Windows version on a 8086. I don't
> think so.

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Date:         Tue, 22 Oct 2002 15:44:26 +0200
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hi,

Christof Harper schrieb am 21 Oct 2002 um 9:13:

>
> So, I guess the questions remaining are whether or not it really affects
> functionality and whther or not the flash card really is drawing power
> from the backup battery. I suppose I can measure the latter by leaving
> everything off for a day or two and metering the batteries.
>
you can measure it direct if you connect a power supply with Ampere
meter direct to the HP.
Take out the main battery and watch the power meter.
Be careful to choose the right voltage and polarity.

cheers,
Werner

>


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Date:         Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:59:07 -0400
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Hello,

In light of 5.5 being the most recent dos version of msword, I have managed to find it here:

http://www.unm.edu/~docs/Y2000/lastminute.html

I laso remembered this site:

http://members.cox.net/dos/txted01.htm

which is a brilliant dos resource.

best,
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Date:         Sun, 20 Oct 2002 14:07:45 +0200
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Barry writes:

> A possibitity that occurs to me is that someone put the virus
> executable into a self extracting and executing zip, or rar or some
> other compressor that creates self extracting archives.  That would
> leave it as an exe but it might not be recognizable by NAV.

NAV knows to scan zip files and remove viruses from them. I had a virus sent to
me on my palmtop and opened the file with PNR, saved the email with its
attachment. Then when I zipped the file and copied it to my desktop as part
of my regular backup, a virus scan caughtr the file and quarantined it.

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Avi Meshar writes:
> Not so fast! <G> If you send 90K of messages, you cannot receive any
> because I assume PG does not delete them after sending them out. I know I
> am nitpicking. My point is to make sure that people see that it is REALLY
> hard to make the 1MB useful with email. You really need more room to make
> it practical.

I agree with Avi. I have a 4mb unit with a broken hinge and a 2mb unit which
is healthy. I use PNR & LXTCP for all my email. On the 4mb unit my mailbox for
PNR was on drive C:. When is witched to the 2mb unit, I moved it to drive a:
as there was not enough room for my EMM200 swap file and all my email, and
the basic binaries which I wanted on drive c:. Even more so on a 1Mb unit.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Christof Harper" <koyote@NOVYLEN.NET>
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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: sundrive on 95LX


> >> There have been threads about getting low 95LX backup battery
> > warnings that
> >> cannot be turned off.
>
> > My original 95lx had that problem.
>
> So, I guess the questions remaining are whether or not it really
affects
> functionality and whther or not the flash card really is drawing
power
> from the backup battery. I suppose I can measure the latter by
leaving
> everything off for a day or two and metering the batteries.

I was using an SRAM card in my 95 when this happened.  I didn't buy
a flash card till the 100lx.  I don't think the problem I had was
related to cards.  It happened when I let the batteries go totally
dead.  I had done that before with no problem so I'm not sure
that's related either.

Other people had that same problem and I don't think anyone ever
figured out a pattern.

It might be that you have 2 unrelated problems.  Or maybe your
problem and mine aren't related.  Hard to say.

Barry

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Date:         Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:55:10 -0700
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Desidoreplicator

                                The following text was found carved into the back of a
                           Commodore CBM Business machine, dated 1-Sep-1970

                                   Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
                     and remember what peace there may be in pressing the UPS SHUTDOWN
                                               button.

                      As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons
                                          - Even the helpdesk
                                    Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
                     and when that fails, use the ZX81 method of punching information into people
                                             repeatedly.

                                Listen to others, even to the dull and ignorant;
                                  for you too may be a Manager some day.
                                    Avoid loud and aggressive persons;
                         especially if they have business cards but no entertainment budget.

                       If you compare your processor with others, you'll get bitter and twisted
                              as there's always a faster processor on the market.
                            (for you to steal from the Boss's machine when he buys it)

                               Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans -
                               Doubly so for the those that no-one knows about.

                             Keep interested in your own career, however humble,
                                       but always lie on your C.V.

                                Exercise caution in your Equipment Purchases,
                                     For Vendors are full of trickery.
                                But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
                                    Many persons strive for high ideals -
                                        Right up until they sell out.

                                             Be yourself.
                           Especially, do not feign respect for technical incompetance.

                                  Neither be cynical about Benchmarking;
                               for in the face of all aridity and disenchantement,
                                     they don't mean anything anyway.

                                    Take kindly the counsel of the years,
                           but limit your intake of "When I worked with PDPs" stories.

                    Nurture strength of spirit to shield you when the excrement and cooling device
                                               meet.
                               But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
                                         That's the Boss's job.

                               Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance -
                           Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation.

                            Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself,
                                   but not too gentle when browsing porn.
                                        You know what I mean.

                           You are a child of the Internet, no less an ICQer than others
                                   You have a RIGHT to your opinion,
                                           Even if it is crap.

                      And whether or not it is clear to you, someone's broken into your machine
                               and replacing your porn with Mandelbrot images.

                                   Therefore be at peace with Computing,
                            Whichever platform you run or operating system you use.
                                         Even if it is Microsoft.
                                Even if you forked out for Software Assurance
                                   Even if you thought Open meant Open.

                                  And whatever your trials and tribulations,
                           in the noisy confusion of life, remember to get enough sleep.
                                 A talk by Richard Stallman is good for this.

                      With all its limited download speeds, inflated specs and broken promises,
                                   it is still a reasonable experience mainly.

                                      Be cheerful. Strive to be happy

                                  Oh, and we just set fire to your desktop.
               Amen

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Umm... they knew about Microsoft and the Internet in 1970? But I nitpick--
it was worth more than a few belly-laughs, anachronisms and all. I
especially enjoyed the bit about Richard Stallman, having just seen him
interviewed on The Screensavers.

Larry Mittell


At 12:55 PM 10/22/2002, Joe Buford wrote:
>Desidoreplicator
>
>                                 The following text was found carved into
> the back of a
>                            Commodore CBM Business machine, dated 1-Sep-1970
>
>                                    Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
>                      and remember what peace there may be in pressing the
> UPS SHUTDOWN
>                                                button.

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Larry Wrote:
>Umm... they knew about Microsoft and the Internet in 1970? But I
>Nitpick--it was worth more than a few belly-laughs, anachronisms and
all....

Same true for ICQ, I think, but cute.

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Date:         Wed, 23 Oct 2002 04:41:30 +0200
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              and  other sundries etc
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Michel wrote:
(In answer to a question asked recently: I am _not_  giving out names of
satisfied buyers, but you can always ask around on the list and get the
buyers to volunteer comments).
----
ok, it was me, and i have to say that this Dutch gentleman is for real and
does what he promises.
Dr.Nat

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 Hi, I'm getting rid of my backup unit. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=1392153495 These are $600 at thaddeus. You can 'buy this now' and get it refurbished for a whole lot less.

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 <table cellpadding=10 cellspacing=0 border=0 width=100% bgcolor=white><tr height=200><td width=100%><font size=2 color=black>Hi,<br> <br>I'm getting rid of my backup unit.<br> <br><A
href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=1392153495">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=1392153495</A><br> <br>These are $600 at thaddeus. You can 'buy this now' and get it refurbished for a whole lot
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It works! Thanks Joe.

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Jimmy,
I use maxdos to run FSB from an aplication Icon

Path looks like:

C:\maxdos.com -s -v3u a:\fsb\fsb.exe/mono|

This loads maxdos in silent mode, and English text mode. and the
mono on the end of the fsb.exe loads in mono mode making it easier to see on the
200lx.

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Hello all
On my recent trip I left my palmtop home and used my Thinkpad running
the connectivity pack to get to my calendar, phone book and such.
I would like to know if there is a way to cut and paste to/from the
connectivity pack PIM applications to WIN98 applications.
It's just ASCII, how hard could it be????

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I am not sure about win 98 but in WIN NT (if you are runninga DOS window),
you can right-click on the title bar of the dos window and select EDIT->Mark
and then highlight the data in the window and select edit-> copy(enter)

That should put it in the clipboard.


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> Hello all
> On my recent trip I left my palmtop home and used my Thinkpad running
> the connectivity pack to get to my calendar, phone book and such.
> I would like to know if there is a way to cut and paste to/from the
> connectivity pack PIM applications to WIN98 applications.
> It's just ASCII, how hard could it be????
>
> --
> Andrew King
> Ann Arbor Michigan
> technology is the answer, what was the question?
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 Well, it's gone already... I do also have a pair of Philips Ninos + accessories for sale. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=1392131661&amp;rd=1 It makes a good book reader because of the backlight.... but that's about it.Considering
that glowing review, the price is high but I based it onrecently sold units. --- On Tue 10/22, ed toro &lt; cojonesdetoro@excite.com &gt; wrote:From: ed toro [mailto: cojonesdetoro@excite.com]To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUDate: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:55:18
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Hi,I'm getting rid of my backup unit.http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=1392153495These are $600 at thaddeus. You can 'buy this now' and get it refurbished for a whole lot less.


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 <table cellpadding=10 cellspacing=0 border=0 width=100% bgcolor=white><tr height=200><td width=100%><font size=2 color=black><BR>Well, it's gone already...<br> <br>I do also have a pair of Philips Ninos + accessories for sale.<br> <br><A
href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=1392131661&amp;rd=1">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=1392131661&amp;rd=1</A><br> <br>It makes a good book reader because of the backlight.... but that's about
it.<br>Considering that glowing review, the price is high but I based it on<br>recently sold units.<br> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--- On Tue 10/22, ed toro &lt; cojonesdetoro@excite.com &gt; wrote:<BR><br><BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 7px; MARGIN-LEFT: 7px;
BORDER-LEFT: orange 2px solid"><B>From: </B>ed toro [mailto: cojonesdetoro@excite.com]<BR><B>To: </B>HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU<BR><B>Date: </B>Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:55:18 -0400<BR><B>Subject: </B>FA: 32MB 200LX plus Extras<BR><BR><br />
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<TD width="100%"><FONT color=black size=2>Hi,<BR><BR>I'm getting rid of my backup unit.<BR><BR><A href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=1392153495">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=1392153495</A><BR><BR>These
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Hi Jon

1 day 56m ago Jon Barrett wrote:

> The reason it's running is that Command.com's the first entry in the root
> directory, which the wildcard expansion's taking care of. The machines
> which aren't accepting it are ones with something else, maybe
> non-executable, in the current root. Try creating a directory with some
> other application as the first file in it, CD to it, and run * from there.

I thought that, too, but
1. if I do a cd \ and then tun *, it says bad command or filename.
2. if I run \* instead of /*, it also says bad command or filename, so
the slash in front of the asterisk does not seem to mean "root dir",
and the asterisk itself does also not seem to refer to the first file
in the dir. Strange.

GTX
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Hi Erwann and Mike

09h45m ago Erwann ABALEA wrote:

> The latest version of Microsoft Word for DOS is the 5.5. Check on Super.
>
> I don't know if you can run the Windows version on a 8086. I don't think
> so.

There is also a version 6, which runs fine on the palmtop, and even
supports TrueType fonts. Doesn't need Windows.
Harvard Graphics would be nice to have... ;-)

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On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi Erwann and Mike
>
> 09h45m ago Erwann ABALEA wrote:
>
> > The latest version of Microsoft Word for DOS is the 5.5. Check on Super.
> >
> > I don't know if you can run the Windows version on a 8086. I don't think
> > so.
>
> There is also a version 6, which runs fine on the palmtop, and even
> supports TrueType fonts. Doesn't need Windows.

I heard of this version 6 before, but I never found it anywhere, so I
thought it was a joke... Do you have it?

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Andrew wrote:
> I would like to know if there is a way to cut and paste to/from the
> connectivity pack PIM applications to WIN98 applications.
> It's just ASCII, how hard could it be????

I do what you could have done - played around a little and tried it out.
Cut and paste does not work from the HP software in the DOSbox to
windows, but as it does of course work inside HP you can paste to memo
and save the file. Another question is whether braindead windows
software can use the data sensibly. My Atari program can import
absolutely anything once I have spelled out the format to it, which is
why I still endure the hassle of the emulator.

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> In light of 5.5 being the most recent dos version of msword,

Actually- that would be MS Word 6.0 for DOS. And yes, this version
works great on 200LX.

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Hi There,

Many of today's MS programs has old DOS versions which works great on
200LX- such as MS Word 6.0, MS Excel 2.1, MS Project... But is there
any old MS PowerPoint version for DOS?

Thanks and Regards,

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Your very welcome!




"JIMMY TAN" <jimmytan@yeos.com.my>@yeos.com.my> on 10/22/2002 09:13:08 PM

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It works! Thanks Joe.

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Date:       2002-10-22 3:00 AM

Jimmy,
I use maxdos to run FSB from an aplication Icon

Path looks like:

C:\maxdos.com -s -v3u a:\fsb\fsb.exe/mono|

This loads maxdos in silent mode, and English text mode. and the
mono on the end of the fsb.exe loads in mono mode making it easier to see
on the
200lx.

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> I am not sure about win 98 but in WIN NT (if you are runninga DOS
window),
> you can right-click on the title bar of the dos window and select
EDIT->Mark
> and then highlight the data in the window and select edit->
copy(enter)
>
> That should put it in the clipboard.

I cut and paste too and from dos windows on win98 all the time.
It's slightly different than you describe.  Below the title bar of
the dos window the icons are there all the time.  Right clicking
isn't necessary.

The square made from a dashed line is called mark.  Click it and
define  a rectangle on the dos window.  That makes the copy icon
ungreyed.  Click that, put the cursor where you want to paste and
use Ctrl-V.  The other icon is the paste icon that you can use to
copy text from windows apps to the dos window.

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There is no PowerPoint for DOS. The first version, originally called
"Presenter" by a company called Forethought, was either for the Mac or
Windows 2.0.

My info comes from http://www.bitbetter.com/powertips.htm and
http://officetutor.com/column/ppt/ppt_01.htm

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Hi There,

Many of today's MS programs has old DOS versions which works great on
200LX- such as MS Word 6.0, MS Excel 2.1, MS Project... But is there
any old MS PowerPoint version for DOS?

Thanks and Regards,

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CPACK200\APP200.BAT cannot be run in a window in Windows 98.



Thanks,

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I have got a Philips PM97 Scope Meter with an IR-Output to
print the screen to a Think Jet Printer.
I can receive this data with the IR-port of my HP200LX.
Is there a chance to get that converted back to a picture on
the HP-screen?
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"Paul Anderson@Systems-Consulting" wrote:
> CPACK200\APP200.BAT cannot be run in a window in Windows 98.

Don't tell that to any of my computers, please! What happens when I type
"HP" into "run" or into the "address" toolbar is my

HP.BAT
echo on
subst b: c:\driver\hp-con
c:
cd\driver\hp-con
app200
REM subst b: /D

The substitute is only there to let me have reasonably short paths
inside the HP emulator. Have you forgotten to start app200 from withion
its own path so it is able to find all its files?

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Barry wrote:
> I cut and paste too and from dos windows on win98 all the time.
> It's slightly different than you describe.  Below the title bar of
> the dos window the icons are there all the time.  Right clicking
> isn't necessary.

Although app200 is started withina DOS window, it takes over the whole
screen. No icons there.

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Mr Alex Green and all others whom it might concern:

Please do not take this personally, but i really could not care less
whether you are in your office or not and neither I presume can most of
the other contributors here.

Danke
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> I have got a Philips PM97 Scope Meter with an IR-Output to
> print the screen to a Think Jet Printer.
> I can receive this data with the IR-port of my HP200LX.
> Is there a chance to get that converted back to a picture on
> the HP-screen?

I'm not sure how much this will help but that's almost surely in
HPGCL, the graphics control lanuage used in most HP printers.
While looking for something else a couple of weeks ago I found a
lot of free downloadable HPGCL viewers.  I don't know how many, if
any will work in dos and on a 80186 cpu and without VGA (I suspect
that'll be the biggest problem).  But it's worth looking into.

I think I did a google search on PCL, not HPGCL, when I found this.
But searching on HPGCL will probably be more direct.

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----- Original Message -----
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To: Feldman, Robert <Robert_Feldman@JDEDWARDS.COM>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: Re: MS PowerPoint for DOS?


> i sent one power point for dos to daniel .. i guess he's
uploaded
> it too
>
> ..pk
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Feldman, Robert <Robert_Feldman@JDEDWARDS.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:10 PM
> Subject: Re: MS PowerPoint for DOS?
>
>
> > There is no PowerPoint for DOS. The first version, originally
> called
> > "Presenter" by a company called Forethought, was either for
the
> Mac or
> > Windows 2.0.
> >
> > My info comes from http://www.bitbetter.com/powertips.htm and
> > http://officetutor.com/column/ppt/ppt_01.htm
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jorgen Wallgren [mailto:wallgren@SINGNET.COM.SG]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:26 AM
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject: MS PowerPoint for DOS?
> >
> >
> > Hi There,
> >
> > Many of today's MS programs has old DOS versions which works
> great on
> > 200LX- such as MS Word 6.0, MS Excel 2.1, MS Project... But
is
> there
> > any old MS PowerPoint version for DOS?
> >
> > Thanks and Regards,
> >
> > Jorgen
> >
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> Subject: Re: Q: cut and paste from CPACK200 to WIN98?
> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:28:17 +0200
> From: Axel Berger <Axel-Berger@NEXGO.DE>
>
> Barry wrote:
> > I cut and paste too and from dos windows on win98 all the time.
> > It's slightly different than you describe.  Below the title bar of
> > the dos window the icons are there all the time.  Right clicking
> > isn't necessary.
>
> Although app200 is started withina DOS window, it takes over the whole
> screen. No icons there.
>
> Axel

So perhaps the question should be:
Is there any way to run CPACK200 under Windows 98 without having it take
over the whole screen? At least if I could make the window smaller I
could read the CPACK data while typing in Windows.
This may be difficult for me, I tried "MSDOS prompt" under the program
menu and it took over the whole screen. It seems to me it used to give
me a nice small window.....
I could use the Omnibook PIM programs, they should work fine under
WIN98. But although they use the same data files as the palmtop they
don't work the same which is more of an aggravation than not being able
to cut and paste.
 Thanks for the ideas


--
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Ann Arbor Michigan
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Barry wrote:

> > I have got a Philips PM97 Scope Meter with an IR-Output to
> > print the screen to a Think Jet Printer.
> > I can receive this data with the IR-port of my HP200LX.
> > Is there a chance to get that converted back to a picture on
> > the HP-screen?
>
> I'm not sure how much this will help but that's almost surely in
> HPGCL, the graphics control lanuage used in most HP printers.
<Snippage>
> I think I did a google search on PCL, not HPGCL, when I found this.
> But searching on HPGCL will probably be more direct.

   The ThinkJets were older units that did HP graphics,
or emulated Epson 80 pin printers (MX-80).  I'm not sure
the HP stuff was called PCL or HPGCL at that time.  If
you have problems with the default output from the PM97,
see if it can output the other supported print stream.
There are/were Epson viewers around at one point in time.

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Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: cut and paste from CPACK200 (now cpack in dos window)


> So perhaps the question should be:
> Is there any way to run CPACK200 under Windows 98 without having
it take
> over the whole screen? At least if I could make the window
smaller I
> could read the CPACK data while typing in Windows.
> This may be difficult for me, I tried "MSDOS prompt" under the
program
> menu and it took over the whole screen. It seems to me it used to
give
> me a nice small window.....

If it's a 16 bit program the shortcut to it (if there isn't one,
make one) will have a screen tab.  Right click on the icon, select
properties and click the screen tab.  There you'll see an option to
run in a window or to run in full screen.

I'm not familiar with cpack200.  I bought cpack for the 95lx but
after installing it I decided not to use it and I haven't seen
cpack since.

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX?


> Barry wrote:
>
> > > I have got a Philips PM97 Scope Meter with an IR-Output to
> > > print the screen to a Think Jet Printer.
> > > I can receive this data with the IR-port of my HP200LX.
> > > Is there a chance to get that converted back to a picture on
> > > the HP-screen?
> >
> > I'm not sure how much this will help but that's almost surely
in
> > HPGCL, the graphics control lanuage used in most HP printers.
> <Snippage>
> > I think I did a google search on PCL, not HPGCL, when I found
this.
> > But searching on HPGCL will probably be more direct.
>
>    The ThinkJets were older units that did HP graphics,
> or emulated Epson 80 pin printers (MX-80).  I'm not sure
> the HP stuff was called PCL or HPGCL at that time.  If
> you have problems with the default output from the PM97,
> see if it can output the other supported print stream.
> There are/were Epson viewers around at one point in time.

I was replying to Uli Allen.  I'm not having the problem.

I wrote some printer control files and drivers for various HP
printers way back when.  In the dos days.  I know they were used on
a couple of Thinkjets. I can't remember if the laser printer files
worked on them.  But I think they did.

If the Epson emulation was FX-80 instead of MX-80 (most but not all
emulations were FX-80) then it has it's own graphics control
method.  Not as simple as writing a printer control file.  It'll
take a driver.  But not too sophisticated a driver.  I had to write
a driver like that for a Panasonic with FX-80 emulation to be used
on our DG minicomputer.  There wasn't that much to it.  But that
was converting from a mono graphic in plain binary format, only
lead by length x width.  Doing it for a JPG will be tricky.  I have
no idea what's involved in decoding a JPG.  There's probably
downloable code for this.   PCX wouldn't be difficult.

Converting from color to mono will probably be difficult to do
well.  Or from 16 bit color to 4 bit color.

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Pocket PC awards

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/021024/lath070_1.html


I heard that Madonna attended and she puked in the toilet back stage.

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> From: "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" <cojonesdetoro@EXCITE.COM>
>
> Pocket PC awards
>
> http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/021024/lath070_1.html
>
> I heard that Madonna attended and she puked in the toilet back
> stage.

What, you've never heard of a dog marking their territory? ;^)

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eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3 wrote:
> I heard that Madonna attended and she puked in the toilet back stage.

Thank you so much for sharing that with us.
A new low in off topic posts has just been reached.

Cheers... Russ

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> eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3 wrote:
> > I heard that Madonna attended and she puked in the toilet back stage.
>
> Thank you so much for sharing that with us.
> A new low in off topic posts has just been reached.

As much as I'd like to take credit for a 'new low', I'm sure that worse
stuff has passed through UConnVM.UConn.Edu. Besides,  I didn't think it was
all that low, just... funny. Y'know? funny-ha-ha not funny-strange.. :^D

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Hello, everybody. i hope what i am about to say does not sound very silly to
you all. i thave no idea as to what i am subscribing to hear but i choose
not to be ignorant and to learn. So if one of you would be so kind as to
fill me in on exactly what HPLX-L is or to what a mailing list is or its
functions, i would gratly appreciate that. THANK YOU.
CLIFF




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I thought it was funny, too.
    Bob
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:39 PM
> Subject: Re: FLUFF: A gala Event
>
>
> > eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3 wrote:
> > > I heard that Madonna attended and she puked in the toilet back stage.
> >
> > Thank you so much for sharing that with us.
> > A new low in off topic posts has just been reached.
>
> As much as I'd like to take credit for a 'new low', I'm sure that worse
> stuff has passed through UConnVM.UConn.Edu. Besides,  I didn't think it
was
> all that low, just... funny. Y'know? funny-ha-ha not funny-strange.. :^D
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What do I do wrong? For some time now my postings to the list are
rejected.
Uli

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ok, Axel,
it sounds promissing but I would be totally overtasked with
such a solution and could be no help.
In the printer setup of the scopemeter is an alternative
called FX/LX graph.
But I don't know if that could help to solve the problem.
May be that is only a different printer (EPSON?)?
So far the only chance to add it to an email  is to print it and scan it.
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> Hello, everybody. i hope what i am about to say does not sound
very silly to
> you all. i thave no idea as to what i am subscribing to hear but
i choose
> not to be ignorant and to learn. So if one of you would be so
kind as to
> fill me in on exactly what HPLX-L is or to what a mailing list is
or its
> functions, i would gratly appreciate that. THANK YOU.

Yep!  Pretty silly.  :)

HP made some palmtop computers beginning in the early 90s and
discontinued them a year or so ago.  The first one was the 95LX.
It weighed 11 ounces (including 2 AA batteries) and fit (not
comfortably) in a pocket.  This was in the days before Palm and
WinCE.

The unique thing about this is that it was a reasonably compatible
MS-Dos computer that you could carry in your pocket or glovebox or
wherever was handy.  It would run most dos programs and there were,
at that time, a lot more dos programs available than windows
programs.  It's main limitations were it's lack of a 386 (it uses
an 80186) and it's proprietary graphics, meaning it wouldn't run
any programs that weren't text mode.  In those days most programs
were text mode so that wasn't as big a limitation as it might have
been.

One of it's nice advantages was that dos was in rom and didn't have
to reload from a disk.  That meant you could reboot (restart) it in
about 15 seconds.  But you could also turn it off and back on and
not have to reboot.  It was truly instant on and everything was as
you left it when you turned it off.  Like today's Palm or PocketPC,
but in those days that was a rare feature.

It also had infra red and a PCMCIA slot.  The infra red was such a
new idea that the IRDA standard was later modelled after HP's
implimentation.  Unfortunately with a couple of changes. :)

In addition to dos in rom there was a windows-like interface that
could be used or not, depending on the configuration.  Built into
that were several applications such as a phone directory, calender,
world time thingy,  Lotus 123 spreadsheet program (complete),
terminal program (the internet wasn't popular yet. Compuserve was
king), a full HP calculator and some other stuff I can't think of.

Also the keyboard had a seperate numeric keypad.  That was because
the original intention of this machine was to be a portable Lotus
machine.  At this time, Lotus 123 was far and away the best selling
program on earth and it's often said that nearly half the people
who bought computers bought only 123 to use with it.  So that was a
big deal.

Later (1994? 95?) they made an improved model called the 100lx that
added CGA graphics, already a little out of date but still on a
screen that size was practically a miracle.  HP said that screen
was the most dense LCD ever made. It also doubled the speed of the
CPU and at the same time doubled the battery life.  It still ran on
2 AA batteries but now it could run for about 6 weeks on a set of
batteries.  Some people got more.

Also they greatly updated the built-in applications, adding a
general purpose database, Lotus' ccMail and a few other things.
Even today these are far more powerful than the apps that come with
any other PDA.  Including the tiny Excel and Word subsets that come
with PocketPC.  It's possible to buy third party word stuff that
can outdo the built-in stuff on the LX, but it's possible to get
even more powerful programs for the LX as well.  And most of those
are now free.  Also, no PDA spreadsheet made today is anywhere near
as powerful as Lotus 123.

Then, 2 or 3 years later, they made the 200lx, which still looks
like the 95lx except it changed from black to very dark green.  The
200lx improved the built-in apps some more, added Quicken and some
other built-in apps.  They also added a 2 meg and 4 meg model.
They previously had had 1 meg.

Then hackers got to work and a double speed upgrade and memory
upgrade (to 96 meg).

So, what is the HPLX users group?  We're a bunch of outdated people
who use an outdated computer.  Outdated because looking at the
numbers it seems so trivial.  But some of us outdated people began
using computers in the days before 99.9% of the power of the
computer was used to help the user stay ignorant of computers.  We
don't really need a 90 meg OS to help us load a program.  We don't
have to have the same boring interface on every program.  We are
willing to put up with the fact that each program, having different
needs, has a different interface.

We're anachronisms.

Should you desire to learn more, stick around.  Also check out
www.palmtop.net and www.palmtoppaper.net.  And, should you decide
to become an anachronism, too, you can even find palmtops there (or
much cheaper but far riskier on Ebay).  There's also a sample
collection of software available at www.palmtop.net/super.

Since a lot of anachronisms don't like being reminded that they're
anacrhonisms, I'll likely be soundly flamed for what I've said
here.  If you do stick around you'll see that this is a very
friendly group, even while flaming.  :)

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Date:         Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:03:31 +0200
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Hi Jinifont users or anyone who can perhaps help me add a missing french=20
character '=E9' (char 130) in the middle size screen font. I like the fon=
t=20
but - since I am living in Switzerland - I need all the french and german=
=20
characters as well. It seems that only the one I mentioned is missing in =
the=20
Jinifont (in fact a square appears). Does anyone have a complete version?

I found jinifont in helvjs.zip which resides within fontstuff.zip at this=
=20
location:
http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/fontstuf.zip

Otherwise I will probably need to purchase books (!) in order to add an '=
=E9'=20
and re-compile the fcl so it will work for more than just a few times.

Thanks for your help.

Jean-Pierre Beekhuis

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Date:         Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:01:55 +0200
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Barry wrote:....searching on HPGCL
I found a lot about HPGL but not about HPGCL.
You said there might be programs which could convert
back to PCX? Output of the PM97 is certainly very simple -
only black and white charts.
Uli

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I could not put it more eloquently!
bob

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:01 PM
Subject: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX?


> Barry wrote:....searching on HPGCL
> I found a lot about HPGL but not about HPGCL.

Probably faulty memory on my part.  It happens a lot.  :)

> You said there might be programs which could convert
> back to PCX? Output of the PM97 is certainly very simple -
> only black and white charts.

I mentioned PCX in reference to writing a program.  I did see some
conversion programs from PCL and HPGL but I don't recall what they
convert to.  I don't remember where I saw them but it was probably
searching on PCL or maybe on HPGL.

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Date:         Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:21:36 -0300
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Hello all:

Bravo to you, barry ...
Well said.

Regards,

CIV

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Hello all:

Bravo to you, Barry ...
Well said.

Regards,

CIV

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ok, On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Uli Allen wrote:

> What do I do wrong? For some time now my postings to the list are
> rejected.

Maybe the problem is that your message starts with "ok" -- I think that is
how listserv "confirms" subscription to a list, with a message that says
"ok" in the body.  Try removing the ok and see ...

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I think I am more or less the youngest in this Hewlett Packard HPxxxLX
Palmtop User Forum and I will leave the answer to the oldest...

Best regards (to you and to everybody),

Jean-Pierre

>>> original message from         cliff omwoyo <<<
> Hello, everybody. i hope what i am about to say does not sound very silly to
> you all. i thave no idea as to what i am subscribing to hear but i choose
> not to be ignorant and to learn. So if one of you would be so kind as to
> fill me in on exactly what HPLX-L is or to what a mailing list is or its
> functions, i would gratly appreciate that. THANK YOU.
> CLIFF
>
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Sorry folks, this was meant to to the group in the first place.

Uli Allen wrote:
> print the screen to a Think Jet Printer.
> Is there a chance to get that converted back to a picture

That is something i have been thinking about for a long time for all
those programs that can print but not save. What I was planning but
never got around to is using the output to a 180 dpi Epson compatible
printer. The format is well documented and easy. Each line is begun by a
format descriptor and its length followed by three bytes for each column
of 24 pixels. It ought not to be too difficult to convert that to any of
the uncompressed formats defining graphics one pixel line after the
other using a 24 line buffer. The one thing is: for all the formats I
know you have to know the length of the longest line at the start while
the printer output may well begin with short lines if there is white
space in the upper right. So you will have to go through the whole file
once before beginning the conversion at the top.

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Date:         Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:51:22 +0200
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Barry wrote:
> Doing it for a JPG will be tricky.  I have
> no idea what's involved in decoding a JPG.  There's probably
> downloable code for this.   PCX wouldn't be difficult.

What I was thinking of is far simpler to program but more involved for
the user:
- Print to file
- Write a (BASIC) program to convert that to a very simple well
documented uncompressed grapics format.
- Use any graphics program to convert to the more involved formats.

Parsing Epson-style graphics is rather easy.

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Date:         Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:44:36 +0200
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Andrew wrote:
> Is there any way to run CPACK200 under Windows 98 without
> having it take over the whole screen?

As far as I am aware: no. You can only go back and forth with <Alt><Tab>

> This may be difficult for me, I tried "MSDOS prompt" under the program
> menu and it took over the whole screen. It seems to me it used to give
> me a nice small window.....

That one is settable, do a right-click on it, go tp properties and
screen. There is also a way to get back to a window while in fullscreen
mode, but I always forget it.

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Barry wrote:
> Since a lot of anachronisms don't like being reminded that they're
> anacrhonisms, I'll likely be soundly flamed for what I've said
> here.  If you do stick around you'll see that this is a very
> friendly group, even while flaming.  :)

Why on earth should anyone? Using an LX I am an anachronism in the same
way I am cooking a meal from fresh basic ingredients instead of far more
sensibly popping a frozen pizza into the microwave.

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Date:         Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:35:24 -0500
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:05 PM
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> Why on earth should anyone? Using an LX I am an anachronism in
the same
> way I am cooking a meal from fresh basic ingredients instead of
far more
> sensibly popping a frozen pizza into the microwave.

Do they freeze pizzas now?  What will they think of next?

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Date:         Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:07:29 -0400
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Alex,

To switch from full screen to a window press Alt-Enter. Same to go back.
APP200 will not do this.


Thanks,

Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992
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Date:         Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:02:54 -0400
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Anacrhonisms ?

So were all anacrhonisms?

Is this a good thing?

Should we all see a doctor?

Perhaps take a shower?  (not together and certainly not with our palmtops!)

Does this anacrhonisms thing wash off ?

Is that the smell I keep smelling?

Or were anacrhonisms that lame Lucas-thing they came up with in
StarWars...."he has  the highest concentration of anacrhonisms I've ever
seen !"

Just a little humor .... operative word being "little". (Small enough to fit
in your pocket with a set of AA batteries....okay, I'll stop now.)

8-)

Eric

PS(Well, it may be bad humor, but at least I FLUFFed it ! 8-D




----- Original Message -----
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> Barry wrote:
> > Since a lot of anachronisms don't like being reminded that they're
> > anacrhonisms, I'll likely be soundly flamed for what I've said
> > here.  If you do stick around you'll see that this is a very
> > friendly group, even while flaming.  :)
>
> Why on earth should anyone? Using an LX I am an anachronism in the same
> way I am cooking a meal from fresh basic ingredients instead of far more
> sensibly popping a frozen pizza into the microwave.
>
> Axel
>
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>

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>From: Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
>Then hackers got to work and a double speed upgrade and memory
>upgrade (to 96 meg).
Please don't refer to them has hackers.....I would call them
miracle workers.....

>So, what is the HPLX users group?  We're a bunch of outdated people
>who use an outdated computer.
I would not call it an outdated computer.    Sure there is newer
stuff like the pocket pc.   But newer is not always better.
If you have a choice between getting a palm, getting a pocket pc
or upgrading your 200lx.....go for the upgrade.   As I always say
newer is not always better.

The main reason I got a pocket pc was becaue of E-books. But TPTB
are doing their best to kill e-books.   If the people who
make e-books had their way they would figure out a way
to put you in jail if you lend your paper backed book to a friend.

Now I have a pokcet pc that won't read e-books because it
doesn't have DRM5.

So my advice to any new user, stick with your 200lx and
get it upgraded......dont' bother with the pocket pc.


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Date:         Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:52:09 -0400
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A small laptop that complements the 200LX. It occupies the middle range
between a full blown laptop and a powerful PDA. I have another one I use
with a wireless card to wander around the house and do Internet stuff..
like draft this Email.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2064495560&rd=1

Thanks for looking.

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Date:         Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:55:06 -0500
Reply-To:     Tim <palmtop@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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>So, what is the HPLX users group?
etc.....

Welcome!

I'll add another "Well said Barry" to the message chain and add:

This LISTSERV group is a GREAT source for ideas, troubleshooting problems w/
various LX (and sometimes other) models, DOS programs, text (re)formatting,
Lotus secrets, programming, making your LX talk to everything (prob.
including the toaster in some cases) and even a good source for discoveries
about new uses and undisclosed features still being explored years after the
machines went out of production(!)... Run-on sentence, I know!

Oh, and this place is a repository of other wisdom regarding rechargeable
batteries, peripheral device power consumption, LX-compatible equipment,
reliable sources of supply (and those to be avoided), etc.

There are surges of interest and participation of those who use their LX w/
GPS devices, LANs, short-wave messaging (called packet-radio? ... not my
forte), PIM and database management, email solutions, games, etc. Soon there
may be (more?) talk of wireless networking and even backlight possibilities
for the LX.

And, some folks even talk about the built-in programs.... ;-)

There are a few members who lurk here and/or participate who don't even have
LXs but love DOS programs, etc. You never know what you'll find. And, the
"few" off-topic threads can range from interesting to "well I can sort by
subject and delete those" <grin>!

This group is quite multinational and you'll find members from all over the
world [in that vein: Daniel, any thought to a way to plot the locations
(even if it's just by closest major city) of all the members in the LX Users
Database? That would be interesting to see... I know we did a few "roll
calls," sounding off about name and location, etc. too, maybe that
compilation (or the LX Users Database) could be easily exported to something
we could see on our built-in world maps ... Just a thought].

HTH,

--tim

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Date:         Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:40:19 -0600
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I nominate Barry to be the worldwide spokesman for HPLX users.

Well said, sir.

And it doesn't bother me to be an anachronism, in fact, I kind
of enjoy it; especially considering that such anachronisms as we
are must be more intelligent and more intellectually active that
the average human in order to succeed in our realm speciality.
There are no lazy brains here - for the most part, at least! ;-)

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> From: Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
> But some of us outdated people began
> using computers in the days before 99.9% of the power of the
> computer was used to help the user stay ignorant of computers.  We
> don't really need a 90 meg OS to help us load a program.

Remember it's just DOS in a clown suit.
Pay no attention to the OS behind the GUI.

Don't get me wrong, I am a Windows user
(but all my phone numbers and appointments are on the palmtop).

--
Andrew King
Ann Arbor Michigan
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Date:         Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:12:29 +0200
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Fri, 25.10.02 4:09 PM +0200

Hi friends,

Bob has just finished the new version of the HPLX users database, and I
sent it out to the members.

Since I have gotten over 50 (!) mailer deamon failure notices instantly,
I think I should ask here:
All who are HPLXUSB members and have NOT gotten the
update notification by email, please contact Bob Christopher
(bob(at)palmtop.com) and let him update your email address in the
database.

Thank you!

daniel

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> I nominate Barry to be the worldwide spokesman for HPLX users.
>
> Well said, sir.

I knew I'd get flamed.  Sure glad this is a polite group. ;)

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Barry writes:
> Yep!  Pretty silly.  :)

......

This has to be the most brilliant history or the HPLX world ever written.
I strongly suggest putting this letter directly on the SUPER site. It really
is a gem!

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Barry writes:
> I mentioned PCX in reference to writing a program.  I did see some
> conversion programs from PCL and HPGL but I don't recall what they
> convert to.  I don't remember where I saw them but it was probably
> searching on PCL or maybe on HPGL.

I remember a DOS program which would convert from HPGL to all sorts of formats
One of them was PCX. I dont remember the name but a search of a Dos repository
for "HPGL" should turn it up. I even think at one stage I suggested adding it
to SUPER...

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Date:         Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:27:17 -0400
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On 11 Oct 2002 at 12:16, Carlos Izzo Videla wrote:

> Now I need to find myself some good and free web hosting till my site is geared up enough to transfer to something of a more complex nature.
>
> Any good experiences to comment on or suggestions to follow ?

I don't know if any free Web hosting services, but www.omnis.com offers Web
hosting with one e-mail address for $3.75/month. I use On=mnis for my business
Web site.

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From: "Victor Roberts" <Robertsv@earthlink.net>

>I don't know if any free Web hosting services,
>but www.omnis.com offers Web hosting with one e->mail address for $3.75/mo=
nth ...

Thanks for the input, Victor.    ;-)

I've found a very nice deal at

www.portland.co.uk

It's a really neat free domain hosting offer (with NO banners or ads!) with=
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actual needs.

The web site forwarding is not working for some reason or other, but even t=
hough I need it, I can manage without it for the time being.

If anyone knows of a better deal than this one, please do let me know.


Best regards,


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Date:         Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:14:24 -0500
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At 05:34 p.m. 07/10/2002 -0400, Bruce_Martin wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a URL/web site that describes the
> > ESC-ON diagnostics and what each one means?
> >
> > I tried to run TEST-ALL and it seems to just wait at
> > the keyboard test for me to hits keys....after about 3
> > keys, it fails...very odd.
>
>WARNING! Do *NOT* run "Test all" or "Plug-in RAM card" tests if you have a
>flash card in the slot! You will lose your data and ruin your card! This
>type of test is meant only for older SRAM cards!!!

That is exactly what happend to me.
My HP 200LX is unable to read my FlashDisk HP 20 Mb (40 with Stacker); but
I can read it it in other notebooks computers (PCMCII slot).
I tried to format it but I cann't, the HP is unable to read it.

Is there anything I can do???

Jaime Zea


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<font size=3>At 05:34 p.m. 07/10/2002 -0400, Bruce_Martin wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>&gt; Does anyone know of a URL/web
site that describes the<br>
&gt; ESC-ON diagnostics and what each one means?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I tried to run TEST-ALL and it seems to just wait at<br>
&gt; the keyboard test for me to hits keys....after about 3<br>
&gt; keys, it fails...very odd.<br>
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WARNING! Do *NOT* run &quot;Test all&quot; or &quot;Plug-in RAM
card&quot; tests if you have a<br>
flash card in the slot! You will lose your data and ruin your card!
This<br>
type of test is meant only for older SRAM cards!!!</blockquote><br>
</font>That is exactly what happend to me.<br>
My HP 200LX is unable to read my FlashDisk HP 20 Mb (40 with Stacker);
but I can read it it in other notebooks computers (PCMCII slot).<br>
I tried to format it but I cann't, the HP is unable to read it.<br>
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Date:         Sat, 26 Oct 2002 02:35:25 +0200
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Hi Barry

1 day 02h42m ago Barry wrote:

> Do they freeze pizzas now?  What will they think of next?

Don't you know frozen Pizzas? Are they not popular in US?

The worst hting I have seen is a boxed and cooled "Currywurst" (not
sure if there is something like that in your country - a sausage with
ketchup-curry-sauce).

But Some of these frozen pizzas taste really good.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sat, 26 Oct 2002 02:35:26 +0200
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Hi Tim

20h27m ago Tim wrote:

> world [in that vein: Daniel, any thought to a way to plot the locations
> (even if it's just by closest major city) of all the members in the LX Users
> Database? That would be interesting to see... I know we did a few "roll
> calls," sounding off about name and location, etc. too, maybe that
> compilation (or the LX Users Database) could be easily exported to something
> we could see on our built-in world maps ... Just a thought].

If there is a way to convert the location data in the database to
latitude/longitude coordinates (using a kind of list), Gnuplot can
plot them easily.
The Gnuplot/DOS package on SUPER even has a world map example included,
so this could be used as a basis maybe...

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:51:29 +0800
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Hello,

The unit has a broken screen (darken surface) but the board and most =
components are still functioning well.=20
Hope that someone will be able to resurrect its parts for a new life. =
Serial ABB3150A05723 (USA)

Any reasonable quote will get it.

Sold AS-IS and shipping is $10.

Thanks
wor

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<META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
<META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hello,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The unit&nbsp;has a broken screen (darken =
surface) but the=20
board&nbsp;and most&nbsp;components are still functioning=20
well.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hope that someone&nbsp;will be able&nbsp;to =
resurrect its=20
parts for a new life. Serial ABB3150A05723 (USA)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Any reasonable quote will&nbsp;get =
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Sold AS-IS and shipping is $10.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>wor</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Date:         Sat, 26 Oct 2002 03:07:25 -0300
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Hello!!!

I'm release Alpha 2 version of j200lx utilities!!!

This new version include:
- Add the rename function to the Filer library.
- FTP server add the function to rename files.
- Database support has improved.
- Database editor (DbEdit) is released with read/write, sort, columns
managment and much more.
- New Filer protocol and database format documentation.

Please see http://j200lx.sourceforge.net/

I'm pleasure to help to everybody in install or other questions about
the library or utility.

:)

Bye

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Date:         Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:08:03 +0800
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On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 12:51:29PM +0800, Wor Yuan Long wrote:
> The unit has a broken screen (darken surface)

Is the screen surface also bubbling up?  My LX has those
symptoms, and I'm wondering if it's related to high humidity
(I'm also in Singapore).

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Date:         Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:37:54 +0200
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David Becher wrote:
> I remember a DOS program which would convert from HPGL to all
> sorts of formats One of them was PCX.

I'm reluctant to contradict Barry, but I doubt, we're really talking
HPGL here. HPGL is HP's plotter language and this is all about printers.
I know that some exotic top of the range printers do have HPGL
translation added into them, but in this case what we need to consider
is IMHO either HPPCL or EscP. Personally I find the latter easier to use
and understand, but tastes vary.

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Date:         Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:42:56 +0200
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Don't you know frozen Pizzas?

Although Barry very much like to put on airs of a very elderly
grandfathorial gentleman, just this once I'm absolutely certain the
remark was ironic.
Barry: Please remember there are Germans here. Kurt Tucholski, when
working as editor, reminded journalists: "Gentleman, in Germany irony is
always to be set in italics!"

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Date:         Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:44:56 +0200
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Seconded
Suggest Daniel as deputy

(Delayed, due to forgetting to reset the To. again.)

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Date:         Sat, 26 Oct 2002 06:26:21 -0400
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>Ian wrote: the problem is that your message starts with "ok"

Thanks a lot, Ian,

that's really funny and I wasn't aware of that.
I try to avoid OK at the beginning.
Thanks again.
Uli

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> Don't you know frozen Pizzas? Are they not popular in US?

Sorry.  I was being silly.  We have frozen Pizza.  After all, most
peoplein this country think Pizza is a basic American food.  :)

> But Some of these frozen pizzas taste really good.

They don't make that kind of Pizza in the US.  :)

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> I'm reluctant to contradict Barry, but I doubt, we're really
talking
> HPGL here. HPGL is HP's plotter language and this is all about
printers.
> I know that some exotic top of the range printers do have HPGL
> translation added into them, but in this case what we need to
consider
> is IMHO either HPPCL or EscP. Personally I find the latter easier
to use
> and understand, but tastes vary.

I'm fully capable of being contradicted. :)

You may be right.  I wrote definition files and drivers for a lot
of HP printers and we also had 1 small HP plotter that I also had
to find ways to make work with programs that didn't know about it.
Maybe that's where I remember HPGL.  But I see you said HPPCL.  I
wonder if that's what I was thinking of.  This was all a lot of
years ago and my memory of it is vague.  I wrote all the hardware
related stuff for my company so even though printers were my
responsibility they were a "peripheral" part of my job.  :)

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Subject: Re: FLUFF: fastfood (was: Re: assistance needed)


>Although Barry very much like to put on airs of a very elderly
>grandfathorial gentleman, just this once I'm absolutely certain
the
>remark was ironic.

I am a grandfather three times.  I'll be 62 in about a week.  What
airs?  Oh, you mean the "gentleman" part.  Yeah, I do fake that.
:)

> Barry: Please remember there are Germans here. Kurt Tucholski,
when
> working as editor, reminded journalists: "Gentleman, in Germany
irony is
> always to be set in italics!"

In order to use italics for irony I'll have to use HTML.  That's a
no-no.  And I love irony.  So I guess Germany will just have to
adapt. :)

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Barry wrote:
> After all, most
> peoplein this country think Pizza is a basic American food.  :)

It is actually. Apart from the very village and its surrounds, where the
founder of the first American (New York, I believe, but am not sure)
pizza bakery came from Italiens did not know pizza before it came over
the Atlantic. And even those people will not at first have recognized
the Americanized version - it was extremely basic poor man's food to
begin with.
 
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>>They don't make that kind of Pizza in the US.  :)
 
oh yes they do check this

http://www.loumalnatis.com/carsons/

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The Commodore machines are from later than 1970 - around 1976/77, IIRC.

Ken

>
> From: Larry Mittell <lmittel@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
> Date: 2002/10/22 Tue PM 05:21:58 CDT
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Words to live by
>
> Umm... they knew about Microsoft and the Internet in 1970? But I nitpick--
> it was worth more than a few belly-laughs, anachronisms and all. I
> especially enjoyed the bit about Richard Stallman, having just seen him
> interviewed on The Screensavers.
>
> Larry Mittell
>
>
> At 12:55 PM 10/22/2002, Joe Buford wrote:
> >Desidoreplicator
> >
> >                                 The following text was found carved into
> > the back of a
> >                            Commodore CBM Business machine, dated 1-Sep-1970
> >
> >                                    Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
> >                      and remember what peace there may be in pressing the
> > UPS SHUTDOWN
> >                                                button.
>
> --snip--
>
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That is my idea to, Axel.
See my mail to David.
There is some plain text at the begining of a HPGL file.
But there is no text in the stream which come out of my
scopemeter.
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David wrote: I remember a DOS program...
Thank you David for caring.
But I am not sure it is HPGL which comes out of the
Scopemeter PM97. It says print to ThinkJet. But has that to
be HPGL? In the graphic mode of Word2000 one can insert HPGL-files.
The extension has to be .gra - but my print out file isn't
recognized by word if I change it to .gra.
Anyway - Super doesn't show a result with looking for HPGL.
Where else could I search?
Uli
p.s. the alternative print out is called FX/LQ graph.
which certainly has to do something with Epson?

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Hi friends

Can be NO HP GL/2 but HP PCL
FX/LQ are most popular raster printer codes (also epson dot matrix printers
;-)

Regards

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Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX?


David wrote: I remember a DOS program...
Thank you David for caring.
But I am not sure it is HPGL which comes out of the
Scopemeter PM97. It says print to ThinkJet. But has that to
be HPGL? In the graphic mode of Word2000 one can insert HPGL-files.
The extension has to be .gra - but my print out file isn't
recognized by word if I change it to .gra.
Anyway - Super doesn't show a result with looking for HPGL.
Where else could I search?
Uli
p.s. the alternative print out is called FX/LQ graph.
which certainly has to do something with Epson?

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> >>They don't make that kind of Pizza in the US.  :)
>
> oh yes they do check this
>
> http://www.loumalnatis.com/carsons/

Delivering hot pizza by air may seem kind of outrageous but I've
helped do it. :)

My dad had a flying school and I grew up on the airport and during
the summer I spent a lot of time washing airplanes for spending
money.  I was washing a Vickers Viscount owned by Tennessee Gas
when the flight crew showed up and made me stop.  They needed the
plane.  They said it was a round trip to New York and invited me
along and off I went.  First time I'd been in an airliner type
plane.

At New York a pizza truck was waiting and we got 16 pizza's wrapped
in very thick something or other, and came on back.  Turns out one
of Tennessee Gas's vice presidents was having a party that night.
:)

I asked the pilot what that trip cost the company and he guessed
between $10,000 and $12,000.  And that was in 1960 dollars.  Pretty
expensive pizza.

An interesting side note:  this particular plane had originally
been built for Batista but when it was ready to be delivered he
wasn't in a position to take it and Castro wasn't interested.  So
it was sold to Tennessee Gas instead. :)

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Because of provider change my homepage moved:

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Sorry about the semi off-topic post but I could think of no better place
of getting a well-informed answer. I'm trying to open a laptop in order to
install a new drive (HP Omnibook 800ct) and am having trouble finding a
torx screw driver that works. I have a set where the smallest drivers is a
T-10. The larger ones go on up to T-20, T-30,etc. The T-10 is still too
large for the screws on the laptop. Is there a T-0 or T-5 screw drivers
size? Does anyone know where to get one? I tried Sadio Shack and Home
Depot to no avail.


Thanks.

OBTW: Here's where it becomes semi-OT. Does the LX use torx screws? What
size?

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Ed,
The LX uses a T-6 and I believe the OB800 does as well.  You can get the sm=
all sizes lots of places.  Do they have a Sears near you in NYC?  They've=
 got them in most Sears stores.
bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Eduardo
Subject: FLUFF: Question about torx screws/drivers

Sorry about the semi off-topic post but I could think of no better place
of getting a well-informed answer. I'm trying to open a laptop in order to
install a new drive (HP Omnibook 800ct) and am having trouble finding a
torx screw driver that works. I have a set where the smallest drivers is a
T-10. The larger ones go on up to T-20, T-30,etc. The T-10 is still too
large for the screws on the laptop. Is there a T-0 or T-5 screw drivers
size? Does anyone know where to get one? I tried Sadio Shack and Home
Depot to no avail.


Thanks.

OBTW: Here's where it becomes semi-OT. Does the LX use torx screws? What
size?

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>>Delivering hot pizza by air may seem kind of outrageous but I've
>>helped do it. :)

not hot, premade uncooked frozen and packed in dry ice than delivered to
your door proving there is a good frozen pizza in the usa

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Hello All
I'm just back from the east on Sunday (10/20) and was wondering if
anyone had got any more mystery messages. I was only able to dial in a
couple of times for messages between 10/16 and 10/20 so I figure if the
messages kept coming during that time then it likely wasn't me.
I did update and run Norton anti Virus on the 21st but it didn't find
anything.

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Hi all,

I've been playing with Secure Device, and seem to be running into a
problem with it on the HP200LX.

If set to time out, the computer turns off before the program times out,
then it stops "counting" time while the computer "sleeps" thereby not
disabling.

Have others found this to be true?

Does anyone know if it is looking for ANY activity (keystroke) or ONLY
access to the secure device?

Thanks,

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Date:         Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:30:18 +0200
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Hi Ed

06h11m ago Eduardo Pseudonomen wrote:

> Sorry about the semi off-topic post but I could think of no better place
> of getting a well-informed answer. I'm trying to open a laptop in order to
> install a new drive (HP Omnibook 800ct) and am having trouble finding a

>
> OBTW: Here's where it becomes semi-OT. Does the LX use torx screws? What
> size?

Same size as OB800: Torx-6.
You'll get them in electronic stores, I think.
Maybe a small philips screwdriver also fits, but I would not recommend
it.

GTX
daniel

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Sears definately carries them individually for about 2 bucks.  Radio Shack
(around here) only had them down to Torx-8.


----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: FLUFF: Question about torx screws/drivers


> Hi Ed
>
> 06h11m ago Eduardo Pseudonomen wrote:
>
> > Sorry about the semi off-topic post but I could think of no better place
> > of getting a well-informed answer. I'm trying to open a laptop in order
to
> > install a new drive (HP Omnibook 800ct) and am having trouble finding a
>
> >
> > OBTW: Here's where it becomes semi-OT. Does the LX use torx screws? What
> > size?
>
> Same size as OB800: Torx-6.
> You'll get them in electronic stores, I think.
> Maybe a small philips screwdriver also fits, but I would not recommend
> it.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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Sun, 27.10.02 11:36 AM +0200

Hi friends,

I'm looking for a Sandisk 32MB Compactflash card. If anyone has one for
sale, please contact me privately. European sellers preferred, because
of shipping costs and hassles with Anthrax detectors.

Thanks
daniel

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I have found the best source of small (T1 on up) is Willi Hahn tools
www.wihatools.com They have bits(1/4 hex) down to T3. Priced reasonable, and
excellent quality.

not affiliated...just a happy customer

Cheers...Al Kind
Microchemistry Lab & Proteomics Ctr, University of CT
3113 Horsebarn Rd, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
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Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 9:49 PM
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Subject: FLUFF: Question about torx screws/drivers


Sorry about the semi off-topic post but I could think of no better place
of getting a well-informed answer. I'm trying to open a laptop in order to
install a new drive (HP Omnibook 800ct) and am having trouble finding a
torx screw driver that works. I have a set where the smallest drivers is a
T-10. The larger ones go on up to T-20, T-30,etc. The T-10 is still too
large for the screws on the laptop. Is there a T-0 or T-5 screw drivers
size? Does anyone know where to get one? I tried Sadio Shack and Home
Depot to no avail.


Thanks.

OBTW: Here's where it becomes semi-OT. Does the LX use torx screws? What
size?

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Date:         Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:20:38 +0800
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David,

Any chance you remember the program or have a copy of it?  I did a google
search and was not successful.  I think that program may just be the proper
incentive for me to upgrade a simple Basic program I wrote 7 years ago.

Oliver

>I remember a DOS program which would convert from HPGL to all sorts of
formats
>One of them was PCX. I dont remember the name but a search of a Dos
repository
>for "HPGL" should turn it up. I even think at one stage I suggested adding it
>to SUPER...

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Thanks for all the replies. I found a guy selling them on Ebay fpr
$6 shipped... Seems like an okay price. After asking the question I
realized that I remember reading about needing a T6 driver to open
the LX.

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX?


> Any chance you remember the program or have a copy of it?  I did
a google
> search and was not successful.  I think that program may just be
the proper
> incentive for me to upgrade a simple Basic program I wrote 7
years ago.
>
> Oliver
>
> >I remember a DOS program which would convert from HPGL to all
sorts of
> formats
> >One of them was PCX. I dont remember the name but a search of a
Dos
> repository
> >for "HPGL" should turn it up. I even think at one stage I
suggested adding it
> >to SUPER...

Take a look at www.simtel.net.  Go to the dos section and do a
search on HPGL.  It found 131 files.  Some won't be useful to you
but a number of them are converters of various kinds

I also did a google search on HPGL again and found LOTs of
converters on the first and second page of the results.  Most were
for windows or linux and I don't know if that's useful to you.  But
it's worth more looking.

Barry

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----- Original Message -----
From: "bob" <bobv@SOS.NET>
> If set to time out, the computer turns off before the program
times out,
> then it stops "counting" time while the computer "sleeps"
thereby not
> disabling.
>
> Have others found this to be true?

Sorry, Bob, no answer, just another question..

Bob's mail made me try secdev, and after playing and getting the
hang of it, I decided to use it for real.

To start I created:

mkvolume c:\filename

 and I played with it, login, logout, etc fine.

Now, how do I delete my first test secure drive? I suppose
unhiding and deleting it, but doing
attrib -r <filename>

gets me:

Not resetting hidden file c:\<filename>

How do I get rid of this ?

TIA

Etienne

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snip
> Now, how do I delete my first test secure drive? I suppose
> unhiding and deleting it, but doing
> attrib -r <filename>
>
> gets me:
>
> Not resetting hidden file c:\<filename>
>
> How do I get rid of this ?

how about attrib -h first? or attrib -h -r ?

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(I removed "FLUFF" in the header because this certainly does pertain to
LXes.)

On 10/27/2002 at 10:30 AM Daniel Hertrich wrote, with much snippage:

>06h11m ago Eduardo Pseudonomen wrote, with yet more snippage:
>
>> OBTW: Here's where it becomes semi-OT. Does the LX use torx screws? What
>> size?
>
>...Torx-6.
>You'll get them in electronic stores, I think.
>Maybe a small philips screwdriver also fits, but I would not recommend
>it.

I think a Phillips would be tricky.  However, a small regular (flat-bladed)
jeweler's screwdriver works fine (sorry, I don't remember the size
designation -- might have been a #2).  The edges of the blade catch two
opposite points of the torx "star" almost perfectly, though the blade
doesn't go all the way in.  It probably wouldn't fly if you had to exert a
lot of torque, but LX screws aren't in that tightly in my experience.  In
the one instance years ago where I needed a little more "oomph" for a
friend's LX, I ground the edges of a screwdriver slightly to make it a bit
narrower, so it would drop more deeply into the Torx head.  It worked fine
after that.

While I would recommend the correct tool for the job, I got along fine with
a jeweler's screwdriver from a standard Radio Shack set for years until I
stumbled across a local place that sold the smaller Torx screwdrivers.  And
the whole set cost me less than the one Torx driver.  :o)

Hope this is of some use to someone in a bind,
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Ulrich Allen wrote:
> But there is no text in the stream which come out of my
> scopemeter.

Could you let us have the first 64 bytes or thereabouts? That should
suffice to determine the format - my printers come from the area when
handbooks were not yet unheard of.

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Sorry, I have no translation program for you, but I can tell you the codes a
ThinkJet understands.

The HP ThinkJet printer is an early 1980s device. This would not normally
have IR. I wonder whether your device would expect an IR module connected to
the printer via HP-IL, as one model of the ThinkJet had the HP-IL interface.
In HP mode (it does have Epson or "alternate" mode as well) the ThinkJet
uses a printer language which is in fact an early version of PCL, although
it was just called HP mode in the early docs I have. The graphics of this is
entirely row-wise raster based. This is different from HPGL, which is a
vector graphics language. I actually did write some drivers and conversion
programmes for the ThinkJet, as most programs using a ThinkJet driver would
produce much better graphics in this HP mode. I don't say the alternate mode
was not as good, but the way the proprietary ThinkJet drivers coming with
these programs handled it, was just inferior (LQ - low quality?). However, I
did not program this for the LX screen (the LX did not yet exist), and I
have no time to do this now. It should not be too difficult though. I'll
list the main escape sequences below, so you can possibly decode the output
of your device. If you need more, contact me privately.

Esc *r#S Sets dot density: #<=640 print region is 640 dots wide, density 96
dots per inch, both horizontally and vertically, #>640 print region 1280
dots wide, density 192 dpi horizontally, 96 vertically;
Esc*rA Switch from text to graphics
Esc*rB Terminates raster graphics
Esc*b#W Next # bytes belong to one dot row and must be interpreted as
graphics bytes: if # greater than width of print region, then excess data
for this row are not printed, if # smaller, then rightmost dots on line are
left blank;
Graphic bytes: 8 bit each, each bit controls one dot; 0 means blank, 1 dot
printed; most significant (first) bit is leftmost dot, etc.
Note that in the above coding, # is a number in character format, so 640
would take 3 bytes (but 0, in one byte, would have the same effect!); that
is why the terminator bytes (S and W in this case) are there.

That is basically it. Printing text is done with what would now be regarded
as a subset of PCL as going to laser printers as well. There may also be
some Esc sequences used for page formatting etc., and these are again quite
similar to what is being used in modern PCL. The strings send to the printer
may also include certain HP-IL commands, if it was supposed to find the IR
on HP-IL. I don't remember them, but I probably still have the HP-IL code
table somewhere as well. However, you might want to start finding out
whether you get Esc*b#W and then # graphics bytes before the next
Esc*b#W, so you'll know you are hearing this language.

The ThinkJet can also be addressed in "Alternate mode", which takes graphics
bytes as column graphics, as opposed to the above row graphics. In this
mode you should expect EscK## or EscL##, with each # standing for one byte
instead of Esc*b#W:

EscK#1#2 single density column graphics with #1 and #2 defining the binary
number of graphics bytes that will be sent to the printer. For numbers above
256, #2 is most significant byte, for lower numbers #2 is 0.
Esc L#1#2 double density as above.
In column graphics mode, the most significant bit of a graphics data byte is
the top dot of the column.
In this mode, explicit line feeds must be used between rows in order to
advance the paper.

Hope this helps!

Geert.

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Hi,

I used a program called pmi, which is an interface to another program called
printgl, some years ago; can convert hpgl and hpgl/2 to pcx, various printer
formats (including Epson FX) and view it on CGA/VGA/SVGA. It was shareware
and by Ravitz Software, USA.

P.J.

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Etienne Lemaire wrote:
> Now, how do I delete my first test secure drive?

You need to turn off the System, Hidden and ReadOnly bits.
A quick (undocumented) way is:  ATTRIB , fn.ext

That's a Comma after Attrib, it causes all 4 attribute bits to
be turned off.

On my SecDev volume I leave them off so it gets backed up.

Cheers... Russ

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bob wrote:
> I've been playing with Secure Device, and seem to be running into a
> problem with it on the HP200LX.
>
> If set to time out, the computer turns off before the program times out,
> then it stops "counting" time while the computer "sleeps" thereby not
> disabling.
>
> Have others found this to be true?

I have not encountered that problem.  In fact I think it isn't
counting anything but comparing a saved timestamp against a
current timestamp.  I don't know this for a fact though.

> Does anyone know if it is looking for ANY activity (keystroke) or ONLY
> access to the secure device?

Only Access I believe.

Cheers... Russ

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Hi Barry,

Yes, I found lots of converters but nothing like what David mentioned.  A
DOS converter to black and white PCX so I can use LXPIC to view my HPGL
*.plt files.

Cheers,

Oliver

>Take a look at www.simtel.net.  Go to the dos section and do a
>search on HPGL.  It found 131 files.  Some won't be useful to you
>but a number of them are converters of various kinds
>
>I also did a google search on HPGL again and found LOTs of
>converters on the first and second page of the results.  Most were
>for windows or linux and I don't know if that's useful to you.  But
>it's worth more looking.
>
>Barry
>
>

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I am told that no one knows about Post/LX 3.1d. Well, the website may be
one reason - it does not tell about this version. Sorry. The download
post3.zip is correct as described below.

If you have the license for WWW/LX version 3 than you can download Post/LX
version 3.1d. It was finalized in June and released in August 2002. The
entry in http://www.dasoft.com/filelist.htm#post3.zip is incorrect and
should state: Post3.zip 155,424, 16 August 2002. There is no POST3.EXE.

Thanks.

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FYI - there is now a post3.exe on both sites. This is a self-extracting
archive of post3.zip.

Thanks,

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Thanks for the reply, Russ,

logout all, of course works fine.

However, I have tried a number of different combinations for automatic
logout, and still have nothing that makes me happy.

If I make it time out after a minute, it times out before I am done
using it.

If I make it 5 or 10 minutes, it never seems to time out.

hmmmm.

Bob
---------
bob wrote:

 > I've been playing with Secure Device, and seem to be running into a
 > problem with it on the HP200LX.
 >
 > If set to time out, the computer turns off before the program times out,
 > then it stops "counting" time while the computer "sleeps" thereby not
 > disabling.
 >
 > Have others found this to be true?


I have not encountered that problem.  In fact I think it isn't
counting anything but comparing a saved timestamp against a
current timestamp.  I don't know this for a fact though.


 > Does anyone know if it is looking for ANY activity (keystroke) or ONLY
 > access to the secure device?


Only Access I believe.

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Hi All:

I finally put my custom 32MB 100LX on ebay. it is item # 1393547519, and you
can see it here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1393547519

I have some other spare bits as well, if you need something to "close the
deal", ask and I may be able to provide it ;-)

Cheers...Al Kind
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List [mailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu] On
> Behalf Of bob
> Sent: 27 October 2002 05:18

> If set to time out, the computer turns off before the program
> times out, then it stops "counting" time while the computer
> "sleeps" thereby not disabling.
>
> Have others found this to be true?

From hazy memory, yes, I remember this being the case. In the end, I
disable the timeout feature because it would lull me in to a false sense
of security. I made sure I always dismounted the volume when I'd
finished with it.

> Does anyone know if it is looking for ANY activity
> (keystroke) or ONLY access to the secure device?

Again, I did a few tests a long time ago and my memory may be faulty. I
think it is only access to the secure volume. I still think it's a great
program for the LX despite these problems.

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Thanks Eduardo and Russ; "attrib , " did the trick, or else -s
has to be included.
Problem solved, but I was (and still am)puzzled by:
 In software carousel,
a)  work area 1 (System Manager -548K)
I terminate all programs to get to DOS, c:\  and issue:

attrib -h -r filename.ext

and get :

Bad command or file name.

b) work area 3 (MSDOS, 548K), from c:\ and:

attrib -h -r filename.ext

and get:

Not resetting hidden file c:\filename

Why isn't the file found in situation "a"??

Etienne


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> Etienne Lemaire wrote:
> > Now, how do I delete my first test secure drive?
>
> You need to turn off the System, Hidden and ReadOnly bits.
> A quick (undocumented) way is:  ATTRIB , fn.ext
>
> That's a Comma after Attrib, it causes all 4 attribute bits to
> be turned off.
>
> On my SecDev volume I leave them off so it gets backed up.
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
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>
>

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Hi friends

09m ....>> in the future <<.... ago Chris Randle wrote:

> From hazy memory, yes, I remember this being the case. In the end, I
> disable the timeout feature because it would lull me in to a false sense
> of security. I made sure I always dismounted the volume when I'd
> finished with it.

I didn't try around with time-out at all.
I only use SecDev to protect a few personal files (pins, passwords in
one file and my signature for faxes in another file), and I exclusively
use batch files to access them.

This is the batch file I use to access the pin/password file:

@echo off
c:\bin\syslog "Logging into SecDev G:"
f:\drivers\secdev\login g
pe g:\file.txt
f:\drivers\secdev\logout g
c:\bin\syslog "Logging out of SecDev G:"

(syslog writes messages into the system-wide "syslog" file so I am
always able to see when I logged on, or when another person _tried_ to
log on. ;-) file.txt is the secret file. So I am always sure to be
logged out after closing the file.

Maybe this helps
daniel

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Mon, 28.10.02 12:32 PM +0200

Hi friends,

how can I define a subset of a database or phonebook, using an SSL
command for

"field xy is NOT empty"

Thanks
daniel

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Hi Rick

12h42m ago Rick Rae wrote:

> I think a Phillips would be tricky.  However, a small regular (flat-bladed)
> jeweler's screwdriver works fine (sorry, I don't remember the size

oops - sorry - I thought a Philips screwdriver _is_ a blade
screwdriver. So if it isnn't, what is it then?

GTX
daniel

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Hi Russ and others,

you don't have to remove the attributes to be able to back up the file.
I use pkzip for my backups, and the following command line backs up all
files, no matter if they are hidden, system or read-only, and when
unzipping the backup, they are restored with their original flags:

pkzip -rp -whs -Jhrs a:\backup_c\c.zip c:\*.*

GTX
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At 10/28/02-06:24 AM, Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:
>Mon, 28.10.02 12:32 PM +0200
>
>how can I define a subset of a database or phonebook, using an SSL
>command for
>
>"field xy is NOT empty"

use the NOT operator. NOT(if field = "")

Another way: if field <> ""

I used one of these IIRC successfully in a macro long ago.

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At 10/28/02-06:24 AM, Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>oops - sorry - I thought a Philips screwdriver _is_ a blade
>screwdriver. So if it isnn't, what is it then?

It is like a cross or + ... Hmmm... depending on the font <G>:

- straight, or blade

+ Philips

* Torx (but the splat character can be depicted on the screen as 5-way, so not
   always true torx

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You don't see these too often:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1773804263

I've heard that many LX users like these because you can boot it
from a flash card and the battery life is reasonable when used that
way. I think it also has instant on/off.

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>Paul wrote: I used a program called pmi

That sounds really promissing, Paul.
I have found the program already and will give it a try.
There is a documentation added which I have to read first.
A lot to read. I let the list know.
Uli

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ohnoo I'm not going to buy it no no

next year I said, next year I buy myself a 110, not now, I'm out of money

but it's dirt cheap!

About the same price as what I paid for my 700lx :)


This time it's for someone else
next time, probably not :)


Greetz,


Niels


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Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 3:46 PM
Subject: IBM PC110


> You don't see these too often:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1773804263
>
> I've heard that many LX users like these because you can boot it
> from a flash card and the battery life is reasonable when used that
> way. I think it also has instant on/off.
>
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Good Morning All:
Several weeks ago I dumped a glass of seltzer water on my 200LX.
I took the box apart, dried the unit and re-assembled it.
When power was applied to the box it immediately went into the init routine
for date/time/owner info. But no keyboard entry shows on the screen.
So now the unit has sat without power for another week. I put batteries in
the unit and it goes to its init screen immediately and it starts beeping
like crazy as if the kbd buffer is full. The beeping stops and allows me to
enter date/time/owner info and then allows me to go the the program
manager. Great! All keys appear to be working except for the Esc and On/off
buttons. Both these keys are in the upper corners of the keyboard.
Anyway as soon as I press the on/off key no other keyboard entry is allowed
but the display is still on.
Anybody have any ideas as to what the issues could be at this point?
Obviously the unit works but what causes the kbd to become locked out when
the on/off key is pressed.
Thanks for any help.
Regards,

Jack Skelley
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Date:         Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:13:36 +0100
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On Monday, 28.10.2002 at 14:24 ZE2, Daniel Hertrich
<daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:
> oops - sorry - I thought a Philips screwdriver _is_ a blade
> screwdriver. So if it isnn't, what is it then?
>
It is actually called "Phillips Recess", it is one of two designs for
"Kreuzschlitz"
in screws. The other one is called "Pozidriv". If you buy bits for power
tools, it
is a good idea to not mix them up because they don't work well
interchangeably.

Most of the "Spax" screws you buy in Germany have a Pozidriv recess,
although
those for Rigips and Fermacell are usually Phillips.

Screwdrivers come almost exclusively with Phillips Recess, although
I recently found and bought a Pozidriv screwdriver (but it was from the
German brand Belzer and most people wouldn't want to spend the
money they ask for it). The differences between PH and PZD are less
critical with a manually operated screwdriver than with a power tool.

Ulrich Boche

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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">On Monday, 28.10.2002 at 14:24 ZE2, Daniel Hertrich &lt;daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; oops - sorry - I thought a Philips screwdriver _is_ a blade<br>
&gt; screwdriver. So if it isnn't, what is it then?<br>
&gt; <br>
It is actually called &quot;Phillips Recess&quot;, it is one of two designs for &quot;Kreuzschlitz&quot; &nbsp;</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">in screws. The other one is called &quot;Pozidriv&quot;. If you buy bits for power tools, it </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">is a good idea to not mix them up because they don't work well interchangeably.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Most of the &quot;Spax&quot; screws you buy in Germany have a Pozidriv recess, although </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">those for Rigips and Fermacell are usually Phillips.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Screwdrivers come almost exclusively with Phillips Recess, although</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I recently found and bought a Pozidriv screwdriver (but it was from the </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">German brand Belzer and most people wouldn't want to spend the </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">money they ask for it). The differences between PH and PZD are less</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">critical with a manually operated screwdriver than with a power tool.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Ulrich Boche<br>
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Mon, 28.10.02 10:12 PM +0200

Hi friends,

just finished PDB2PHNE, an extended version of PDB2PHN from my PDB2X
converter package.

It allows to transfer the LX phone book to a cell phone using GDBIO,
WWW/LX, Robot/LX and the robot script Phone.SCR.

This new program version finally allows multiple phone numbers per
entry to be transferred.

I have it working here for an Ericsson T39m phone, I don't know if this
will work with other phone brands, or even other Ericsson phones,
See below for technical details.

Anyone willing to test this program, please email me, I'll send out a
copy for testing. I'd like to make sure it works before I publish it
with the new PDB2X 2.1 package and I would like to know with which
kinds of phones this works.

Testing this program would probably mean deleting the entire current
phone book of the phone, because phone.scr expects to find an empty
phone book. Please consider this.


The technical details:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Basically, the phone must allow to enter a new phone book entry in the
phone memory (select that with AT+CPBS="ME") using

AT+CPBW=1,"+123456789",,"Lastname, Firstname/H"

where the first 1 is the phone book location number,
"+123456789" is the phone number
and the /H behind the names is the category of the phone number, i.e.
/H for home, /W for work, /O for other, /M for mobile and /F for fax.

So, giving the following commands to the phone:

AT+CPBW=1,"+123456789",,"Lastname, Firstname/H"
AT+CPBW=2,"+987654321",,"Lastname, Firstname/W"
AT+CPBW=3,"+555555555",,"Lastname, Firstname/M"

would create one phone book entry in the phone's memory, which are
actually three entries. Managed by the phone to appear as one entry
"Lastname, Firstname" with three kinds of phone numbers:
+123456789 Home
+987654321 Work
+555555555 Mobile

For more details about the AT commands please see
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx
on the bottom you will find links to the AT command sheets for various
phones, the commands described above are from the T39m AT command
sheet.

So far for now
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:52:57 +0100
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> I thought a Philips screwdriver _is_ a blade
> screwdriver. So if it isnn't, what is it then?

To you it is a "Kreuzschlitzschraubendreher". I'm not sure about an
alternative English term.

Axel

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Date:         Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:55:13 +0100
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> how can I define a subset of a database or phonebook, using an SSL
> command for

Have to admit I did not try it with the HP, but what i normally use is:
<field> > " ". I hope the HP too does ASCII sort, if not ignore my
unqualified remark.

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Etienne Lemaire wrote:
> I terminate all programs to get to DOS, c:\  and issue:
>
> attrib -h -r filename.ext
>
> and get :
>
> Bad command or file name.

It looks like D:\DOS isn't in your PATH at this time.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:05:24 +0100
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Ulrich Boche wrote:
> The differences between PH and PZD are less
> critical with a manually operated screwdriver than with a power tool.

Well if you really want to go that far into detail:
Philips are very slightly wedge shaped, the much newer Pozidrivs have
exactly parallel sides. Until recently it was not possible to make
screws with parallel walled recesses. They are superior as of course
they tend less to drive the tool out under torque. They are standardized
such that pozi screws can be used with standard PH tools, though of
course not as well, but not the other way round. So take care (as
always).
And of course always use the biggest tool size that fits, don't rely on
your eyesight, always first try one size bigger than you think is the
right one. Too big will simply not fit, too small will ruin both tool
and screw in surprisingly short time. The last sentence applies to torx
too.

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Paul,

Thank you for the recommendation.  Will do a google search for pmi.

Oliver


>Date:    Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:53:34 +0100
>From:    Paul Wagner <ganwer402@GMX.NET>
>Subject: Re: AW: IR Think Jet Print to HP200LX?
>
>Hi,
>
>I used a program called pmi, which is an interface to another program called
>printgl, some years ago; can convert hpgl and hpgl/2 to pcx, various printer
>formats (including Epson FX) and view it on CGA/VGA/SVGA. It was shareware
>and by Ravitz Software, USA.
>
>P.J.
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> To you it is a "Kreuzschlitzschraubendreher". I'm not sure about an
> alternative English term.

Would that be "Cross blade screwdriver"?
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More like a Cross Slot Screwdriver.

At 10/28/02-05:01 PM, Bob Penick <bnj@MYREALBOX.COM> wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Axel Berger"
>Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers
>
>
> > To you it is a "Kreuzschlitzschraubendreher". I'm not sure about an
> > alternative English term.
>
>Would that be "Cross blade screwdriver"?
>bob
>
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> you don't have to remove the attributes to be able to back up the file.
> I use pkzip for my backups, and the following command line backs up all
> files, no matter if they are hidden, system or read-only, and when
> unzipping the backup, they are restored with their original flags:
>
> pkzip -rp -whs -Jhrs a:\backup_c\c.zip c:\*.*

For speed I backup with Xcopy and it can't see files that are
Hidden or System.

Cheers... Russ

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> I only use SecDev to protect a few personal files (pins, passwords in
> one file and my signature for faxes in another file), and I exclusively
> use batch files to access them.
>
> This is the batch file I use to access the pin/password file:
>
> @echo off
> c:\bin\syslog "Logging into SecDev G:"
> f:\drivers\secdev\login g
> pe g:\file.txt
> f:\drivers\secdev\logout g
> c:\bin\syslog "Logging out of SecDev G:"

Daniel, I do something very similar but I still use the timeout
feature.  Using your BAT file as an example, suppose you start
it and then while still in PE you go do something else?  That
whole time the contents of your SecDrv are available should
someone get to your LX.  With a timeout they would have access
to the file being edited by PE but no other file on that logical
drive after the timeout period expires.

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Date:         Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:35:24 -0500
Reply-To:     Eric <HPLX@BATTLEQUEST.COM>
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As descibed at super:
http://www.palmtop.net/hardcase.html

The cases are just $4.99 at sears.com with some "free shipping" mail-in
rebate

Search for items:
965283  (small case)
965284  (large case).

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Hello All,

Just thought I would point out that with Christmas/Hanukah coming up, please
try to support the SUPER site by making your Amazon purchases through thier
site (Just click on thier Amazon link on the SUPER site).

Note: No one at SUPER asked me to email this, I just thought that it would
be a nice gesture for all of us to try to help them out considering all they
have given us over the years...

SUPER Site (link is on the left hand side):
http://www.palmtop.net/

Better yet, bookmark it in your browser as your permanent Amazon link...
Thier Amazon link is:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/subst/home/home.html/002-7849100-8856061

Regards,
Eric
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Hi Russ

05h32m ago Russel Brooks wrote:

> Daniel, I do something very similar but I still use the timeout
> feature.  Using your BAT file as an example, suppose you start
> it and then while still in PE you go do something else?  That
> whole time the contents of your SecDrv are available should
> someone get to your LX.  With a timeout they would have access
> to the file being edited by PE but no other file on that logical
> drive after the timeout period expires.

Well, during the file is opened in PE, you shouldnt do anything else
anyway. At least nothing which swaps RAM contents to disk, because then
the secret contents would be sritten on an unencrypted part of the disk
and would be easily recoverable with a disk editor.

But in your case the combination of timeout and batch logout is the
safest, of course.

Thanks!
daniel

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Hi Russ

05h29m ago Russel Brooks wrote:

> For speed I backup with Xcopy and it can't see files that are
> Hidden or System.

If you want speed, maybe try

pkzip -e0 -rp -whs -Jhrs a:\backup_c\c.zip c:\*.*

This simply copies, without compression (-e0) into the zip file.
I donT know if this is as fast as xcopy, but it should almost be.
Another advantage is that the backup takes less disk space than just
copied contents, because only one bog file is created, not many small
ones which waste cluster space and number of available allocation
units.

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:58:32 +0100
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Okay, now it's my turn

According to my dictionary it can be...

- A crosshead screwdriver
- A Cross tip screwdriver
- A Phillips screwdriver

:) hope this helps :D

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> More like a Cross Slot Screwdriver.
>
> At 10/28/02-05:01 PM, Bob Penick <bnj@MYREALBOX.COM> wrote:
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Axel Berger"
> >Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers
> >
> >
> > > To you it is a "Kreuzschlitzschraubendreher". I'm not sure about an
> > > alternative English term.
> >
> >Would that be "Cross blade screwdriver"?
> >bob

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Hello Everybody,

I'm trying to configure acad r10 into my lx.

I have downloaded the last ACADLX file from S.U.P.E.R.

I read somewhere that the best video graphics adapter
is IBM Color/Graphics,but this choice shows the
autocad command prompt in the midle of the screen.

Can anybody give me any advice...

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Date:         Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:52:38 +0100
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Russel Brooks wrote:
> For speed I backup with Xcopy and it can't see files that are
> Hidden or System.

By using /? (haven't actually tried yet) I see that Win98's xcopy does
transfer hidden files too. Might be worth a try, no idea if it runs
under 5.0.
In the same vain: Using xcopy I could make backing up all five
partitions of my notebook to the games console automatic. As far as know
Win98's DOS and its xcopy can preserve the long file names. Is that
correct?

Axel

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Date:         Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:04:17 +0100
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Niels wrote:
> did you recieve the belt clip and the money? I'd like to know for sure..!

Your letter arrived yesterday and the money today. BTW, absolutely no
need for those extra 2 question marks, but thanks anyway.

Axel

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Axel Berger wrote:

Sorry all, this changing the "To:" fiel really is a nuisance - often I
forget and then I go and do with private mail where I shouldn't.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Secure Device/Software Carousel


> For speed I backup with Xcopy and it can't see files that are
> Hidden or System.

I'm not sure this will help but there is a switch on pkzip ( -b)
that tells it where to put it's temporary files.  If you're backing
up the LX to a fast PC and you make sure it's temporary files are
on the PC, and pkzip is running on the PC, it seems like that would
make it extremely fast.

I haven't tried it since I don't back up that way, but it's worth
trying if you do.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:55:28 -0500
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Sorry to spam the list with a personal email, but I have no recourse.

Eric ("Eric" <HPLX@BattleQuest.com>), mail I send to you is bouncing:

        ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
        <HPLX@BattleQuest.com>

        ----- Transcript of session follows -----
        ... while talking to battlequest.com.:
        >>> RCPT To:<HPLX@BattleQuest.com>
        <<< 550 5.7.1 <HPLX@BattleQuest.com>... Relaying denied
        550 <HPLX@BattleQuest.com>... User unknown

Could you provide me with an alternate address to contact you with?

Thanks!

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Date:         Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:38:20 -0500
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FWIW, my local Sears had them for $3.99 last Friday.
bob

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From: "Eric" Subject: 100/200LX Hardcase sale at sears.com

> As descibed at super:
> http://www.palmtop.net/hardcase.html
>
> The cases are just $4.99 at sears.com with some "free shipping" mail-in
> rebate
>
> Search for items:
> 965283  (small case)
> 965284  (large case).

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Date:         Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:51:11 -0600
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I'm "preaching to the choir;" so I'll keep this short.

Just had some minor repair work done at Thaddeus and my LX was back so fast
it made my head spin!

Great job guys! I figure, public accolade is the least I could do ;-)

--tim
PS. Trad. disclaimer: Not affil., just a happy customer.

Tim Raymond
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Hi all,

Just bought a pair of 1800 mAh bttys. at Fry's Electronics (Rayovac brand,
$7.49 a pair!). I'm charging them in an external charger for their first
go-round, but wondered if anyone would care to share their ABC/LX settings,
etc. w/ me.

I haven't used the program in a long time and wondered if it was a good idea
for these new "powerhouse" batteries or if it wasn't really designed for
NiMH batteries and I should just charge them externally ....

Any thoughts, advice, etc. are appreciated!

Thanks,

--tim

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Date:         Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:30:13 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Question about torx screws/drivers
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I was translating "Kreuzschlitzschraubendreher", not giving a dictionary
meaning.

I hope this helps :D

<vbg>


At 10/29/02-02:58 AM, Niels <hp700lx@SOFTHOME.NET> wrote:
>Okay, now it's my turn
>
>According to my dictionary it can be...
>
>- A crosshead screwdriver
>- A Cross tip screwdriver
>- A Phillips screwdriver
>
>:) hope this helps :D

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Date:         Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:42:19 -0800
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From:         Longden Loo <LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: ABC/LX settings for 1800 mAh bttys?
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I use 1800mAh "Monster" Powercells in my LX and charge them
directly in the palmtop.  Like some others here, I have ready
access to a charger most of the day and night, and the LX sits on
my desk plugged in (charging or not) or likewise on my nightstand.

I get about 11-15hrs of runtime off a completed charge, which is
done via ABC/LX
- start charging at  2.35v
- stop charging at 2.84v
- stall set to 6hrs or after 16 hrs total
- trickle charge is disabled.

So you may get more runtime using more aggressive parameters
... I never saw the need.  My charging rarely completes in one
sitting, meaning I usually interrupt the charging which picks up
again when I plug it in again.  Usually it completes on the 2nd
round (max voltage reached).

- Longden


> Just bought a pair of 1800 mAh bttys. at Fry's Electronics
(Rayovac
> brand, $7.49 a pair!). I'm charging them in an external charger for
> their first go-round, but wondered if anyone would care to share their
> ABC/LX settings, etc. w/ me.
>
> I haven't used the program in a long time and wondered if it was a
> good idea for these new "powerhouse" batteries or if it wasn't really
> designed for NiMH batteries and I should just charge them externally
> ....
>
> Any thoughts, advice, etc. are appreciated!

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Date:         Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:37:59 +0100
Reply-To:     Jan Pieter Beekhuis <beekhuis@TISCALINET.CH>
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Hi Tim,

I am using the same capacity (but German brand Ansmann). I charge them =
with
following settings:

Start if below 2.44 v
Stop at 2.97 v
Stall time: 2:00 hrs
or after 16:00 hrs

The abc.con file looks like:

ABC Configuration
64
99
5400
57600
0

If you start at 2.44 the charging fits in the 16 hours maximum of abc. =
You
will probably be much faster with an external charger but removing them =
from
the palmtop is riskier than charging inside.

Give it a try!

Regards,

Jean-Pierre Beekhuis

> --- quoted text below was written by         Tim ---
> Hi all,
>
> Just bought a pair of 1800 mAh bttys. at Fry's Electronics (Rayovac =
brand,
> $7.49 a pair!). I'm charging them in an external charger for their =
first
> go-round, but wondered if anyone would care to share their ABC/LX =
settings,
> etc. w/ me.
>
> I haven't used the program in a long time and wondered if it was a good =
idea
> for these new "powerhouse" batteries or if it wasn't really designed =
for
> NiMH batteries and I should just charge them externally ....
>
> Any thoughts, advice, etc. are appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
>
> --tim
>
> Tim Raymond
> -------------------------------------------
> "There's always a way to do it better.... Find it!" T.A. Edison
>
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Date:         Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:39:33 -0500
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I bought 20 of those "digicam" branded 1800MAh batteries at $1.25/each from
that Ebay auction posted here a while ago. They seem pretty good. I got an
Olympus digicam and have used GP brand 1800's in it and these seem
comparable (GPs are supposed to be good). I can fill a 128MB card with
2MPixel pictures at highest jpg using the flash and LCD to preview pictures,
dload all the pics and still not run out of juice.







----- Original Message -----
From: "Longden Loo" <LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: ABC/LX settings for 1800 mAh bttys?


> I use 1800mAh "Monster" Powercells in my LX and charge them
> directly in the palmtop.  Like some others here, I have ready
> access to a charger most of the day and night, and the LX sits on
> my desk plugged in (charging or not) or likewise on my nightstand.
>
> I get about 11-15hrs of runtime off a completed charge, which is
> done via ABC/LX
> - start charging at  2.35v
> - stop charging at 2.84v
> - stall set to 6hrs or after 16 hrs total
> - trickle charge is disabled.
>
> So you may get more runtime using more aggressive parameters
> ... I never saw the need.  My charging rarely completes in one
> sitting, meaning I usually interrupt the charging which picks up
> again when I plug it in again.  Usually it completes on the 2nd
> round (max voltage reached).
>
> - Longden
>
>
> > Just bought a pair of 1800 mAh bttys. at Fry's Electronics
> (Rayovac
> > brand, $7.49 a pair!). I'm charging them in an external charger for
> > their first go-round, but wondered if anyone would care to share their
> > ABC/LX settings, etc. w/ me.
> >
> > I haven't used the program in a long time and wondered if it was a
> > good idea for these new "powerhouse" batteries or if it wasn't really
> > designed for NiMH batteries and I should just charge them externally
> > ....
> >
> > Any thoughts, advice, etc. are appreciated!
>
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Reply-To:     Niels <hp700lx@SOFTHOME.NET>
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That's why I tried my dictionary :D

[n]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Avi Meshar" <hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Question about torx screws/drivers


> I was translating "Kreuzschlitzschraubendreher", not giving a dictionary
> meaning.
>
> I hope this helps :D
>
> <vbg>
>
>
> At 10/29/02-02:58 AM, Niels <hp700lx@SOFTHOME.NET> wrote:
> >Okay, now it's my turn
> >
> >According to my dictionary it can be...
> >
> >- A crosshead screwdriver
> >- A Cross tip screwdriver
> >- A Phillips screwdriver
> >
> >:) hope this helps :D
>
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Date:         Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:58:07 -0500
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Yes, it will work.  But because it takes over 500 KBytes of conventional
memory to run Magellan, it's not the sort of thing you are likely to do
under the System Manager without MaxDOS.

Alan Striegel

>From: Jeffrey W. Asher [mailto:jasher@IX.NETCOM.COM]
>Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:06 AM
>
>When I try to load it I get error messages saying insufficient RAM.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:49:20 -0600
Reply-To:     Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Great job guys! I figure, public accolade is the least I could do ;-)>>

Thanks Tim. I'm glad we got it back to you fast. Our primary tech, Jamie, is
a farmer (here in S.E. Iowa) and is harvesting! We lose him in Spring and
Fall. Fortunately, we have two "backup" techs, who had the job previously,
and fill in as needed.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:48:26 -0500
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A few minutes ago I was looking at the Thaddeus site and noted
a memory card I'd like to have.

I casually ejected the memory card from my 200LX. It felt funny,
but the card came out. I was not pleased to note that there was
only about 2/5 of the door left. The card would not go all the
way back in. I extracted the remaining piece of door and the
spring on that side. The other 3/5 of the door is jammed between
the keyboard and the pins that go into the card. The other spring
is rattling around loose inside.

So I dare not even turn the unit on--on the eve of a trip where
I'd really like to be able to use it.

Just a story for your entertainment--I know more than I want to
about Torx bits (but I never bought the right size), rubber feet,
and the $125 flat-rate repairs at Thaddeus. Of course I won't
reject any suggestions!

Mark Shields


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Date:         Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:01:57 +0100
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TRICK

If you already use KS.COM (e.g. in connection with PNS200.EXE) but not
maxdos you could also create an icon in system manager with a path entry
like..

c:\yourpath\ks.com \)\m/t/c:\\yourpath\\magellan.bat/

(The comments field MUST be empty. If not there will be strange results =
and
beeps).

..and start the application from a bat file with at the end the line:

ks.com 200/\)

KS will automatically terminate ALL applications (if your Palmtop has the
English menu) and you have the full memory. The last entry in the bat =
file
tell KS to take you back to the system manager icon screen.

No need to read the above if you use maxdos :)

Jean-Pierre


> --- quoted text below was written by         Striegel, Alan ---
> Yes, it will work.  But because it takes over 500 KBytes of conventional
> memory to run Magellan, it's not the sort of thing you are likely to do
> under the System Manager without MaxDOS.
>
> Alan Striegel
>
> >From: Jeffrey W. Asher [mailto:jasher@IX.NETCOM.COM]
> >Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:06 AM
> >
> >When I try to load it I get error messages saying insufficient RAM.
>
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Date:         Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:06:11 -0600
Reply-To:     Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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> I heard that Madonna attended and she puked in the toilet back stage.

Well gang, that was me behind the awards. Rich Hall (former Palmtop Paper
editor) and I gave out the awards in Hollywood ceremony in a nightclub next
to the Kodak theatre, at the Pocket PC Summit, www.PocketPCSummit.com, for
the best software. Rich and I wore tuxes and all and handed out the awards.
Winners are announced in the Jan issue of our magazine and at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/jan03/winners.asp. Small world<g>.

And no, you heard a rumor, Madonna wasn't there<g>. However, Rich's brother
is the coroner in number 1 TV show, CSI (true story) and, though he couldn't
help with the awards, we all went out to dinner the next night.



Hal Goldstein
Exec Editor/Publisher/CEO
Pocket PC magazine, www.PocketPCmag.com
Palmtop Paper Online www.PalmtopPaper.com
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Date:         Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:50:56 +1300
Reply-To:     Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM>
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From:         Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM>
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Folks, I just tried to download some icons from...

http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons.pl/map

...but although another web page with the appropriate name is
displayed, no download takes place.
Is there something I have to do to download an icon?

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Date:         Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:04:28 -0800
Reply-To:     Questor Jones <questor_jones@YAHOO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Eric - mail bouncing!
Comments: To: Paul Bickford <bickford.paul@JIMMY.HARVARD.EDU>
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Paul,

My mail was temporarily down today.

Should be all set now.

(If it happens again, just give it a day and resend)

Thanks,
Eric


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wrote:
> Sorry to spam the list with a personal email, but I
> have no recourse.
>
> Could you provide me with an alternate address to
> contact you with?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Paul.
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Date:         Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:14:10 -0800
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Quick note:

The following email was from Eric.

I was relaying it for him to the group and
accidentally cut out the part of the message regarding
the relay request.

Sorry for any confusion.

Questor



--- Questor Jones <questor_jones@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> My mail was temporarily down today.
>
> Should be all set now.
>
> (If it happens again, just give it a day and resend)
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
>
> --- Paul Bickford <bickford.paul@JIMMY.HARVARD.EDU>
> wrote:
> > Sorry to spam the list with a personal email, but
> I
> > have no recourse.
> >
> > Could you provide me with an alternate address to
> > contact you with?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
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Date:         Wed, 30 Oct 2002 01:28:28 +0000
Reply-To:     Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Barry wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
> > For speed I backup with Xcopy and it can't see files that are
>
> I'm not sure this will help but there is a switch on pkzip ( -b)

Yes I know about "-b" and use it on my desktop.

A couple of folks have responded to my comment about using Xcopy
so maybe I should describe what I do and why it works "for me".

I have 3 main backup BAT files;

- one for running DBCHECK on my Appt & Phone dbs and archiving
  both the dbs and the txt output of DBCHECK into Zip file named
  like 'yyyymmdd'.  I try to run this every day.

- one does an incremental backup of C:

    XCOPY C:\*.* A:\BACKUP\ /S /M /V       ...note "/M"

  I try to run this every day or two. I keep a 64Meg CF card in
  A: which holds this backup data along with a few other files.

- the last is a full image backup done with

    XCOPY C:\*.* A:\%dates%\ /S /E /V      ...note "/E"

  This is done once a week or so.  The BAT file sets the DATES
  environment variable to today's date in form yyyymmdd.
  I use a 128Meg CF card for the target and usually have to
  delete my oldest backup directory tree to make room but it can
  still hold 5 or 6 full backups so I have fathers and
  grandfathers I can make use of.
  Also, once done I put the 64Meg CF back in the LX and delete
  the incremental backup data so the daily incremental will
  always build from the most recent full back.

So, I take weekly full backups and daily I do an incremental
backup to catch files updated since the last full one.

The purpose of these backups are to protect me in case of a
serious crash and also so I can easily check what a file use to
look like.  By using Xcopy all the files are in directories
similar to their originals.  Easy to find and easy to
view/copy/compare/etc.  I don't need to extract a file from a
Zip to get to it,

This works for me.  It IS wasteful of disk space but that isn't
a problem to me.  Xcopy is fast and this is important because I
usually do this at work between tasks and I don't want to wait
longer than necessary for it to complete; I may need access to
some piece of data like phone numbers or calendar.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:22:39 -0500
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Rodrigo,

This looks like quite an accomplishment.  I have also been working on a Java
version of the GDB parser (but at a slower pace).  I haven't gotten a chance
to try your program yet, but the screen shots look REALLY nice.

How does the filer system work?  Is it a replacement for the transfile 200
program?

Regards,
Eric



----- Original Message -----
From: "Rodrigo Serra" <rmserra@FIBERTEL.COM.AR>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 1:07 AM
Subject: New Release of j200lx (Alpha 2)


> Hello!!!
>
> I'm release Alpha 2 version of j200lx utilities!!!
>
> This new version include:
> - Add the rename function to the Filer library.
> - FTP server add the function to rename files.
> - Database support has improved.
> - Database editor (DbEdit) is released with read/write, sort, columns
> managment and much more.
> - New Filer protocol and database format documentation.
>
> Please see http://j200lx.sourceforge.net/
>
> I'm pleasure to help to everybody in install or other questions about
> the library or utility.
>
> :)
>
> Bye
>
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>

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Date:         Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:12:26 +1300
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--
Not strictly an HPLX question - I bought the bilingual
Windi7 to test and want to send it to my daughter, but find it
is somehow copy protected. There is a limitation on how many
times it can be installed - in fact it seems wedded to one
particular PC, so even I cannot install it on another machine!

I am hoping there is a Windi7 user on the list here who can
advise me on this. The documentation is not at all clear to
me.

The demo dos Windi7 at super runs fine on the palmtop - back
on topic<g>.

TIA
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Date:         Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:26:22 -0300
Reply-To:     Rodrigo Serra <rmserra@FIBERTEL.COM.AR>
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Eric,

You can use the java rmserra.j200lx.Db package of the proyect for
reading/writing GDB files.
Is very ease to use. See docs.
The filer system is a ftp server gateway, convert ftp request to palmtop
filer request. You can use ftp client to access your palmtop connected
to your pc, and you can connect from your network to your palmtop. The
screenshot show ftp client embedded in Windows OS.
Is a replacement for transfile 200 or other transfer program.

Best Regards,
Rodrigo

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Eric [mailto:HPLX@BattleQuest.com]=20
Enviado el: Mi=E9rcoles, 30 de Octubre de 2002 02:23 a.m.
Para: Rodrigo Serra; HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Asunto: Re: New Release of j200lx (Alpha 2)


Rodrigo,

This looks like quite an accomplishment.  I have also been working on a
Java version of the GDB parser (but at a slower pace).  I haven't gotten
a chance to try your program yet, but the screen shots look REALLY nice.

How does the filer system work?  Is it a replacement for the transfile
200 program?

Regards,
Eric



----- Original Message -----
From: "Rodrigo Serra" <rmserra@FIBERTEL.COM.AR>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 1:07 AM
Subject: New Release of j200lx (Alpha 2)


> Hello!!!
>
> I'm release Alpha 2 version of j200lx utilities!!!
>
> This new version include:
> - Add the rename function to the Filer library.
> - FTP server add the function to rename files.
> - Database support has improved.
> - Database editor (DbEdit) is released with read/write, sort, columns=20
> managment and much more.
> - New Filer protocol and database format documentation.
>
> Please see http://j200lx.sourceforge.net/
>
> I'm pleasure to help to everybody in install or other questions about=20
> the library or utility.
>
> :)
>
> Bye
>
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Date:         Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:37:02 +0200
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01h25m ago Tony Hutchins wrote:

> #38 Hey. Don't pick up that pho+>+Abe+++f  NO CARRIER.

Ha! How many times did that happen to me before we had DSL and my wife
wanted to do a phone call. :-)
Thanks Tony!

daniel


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Date:         Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:51:59 -0500
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So, if I understand you right, Axel,
it has nothing to do with HPGL and therefore there is
no chance to solve the problem with PrintGL?
That seams to be important just to lead me not into a
wrong direction.
Uli

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Date:         Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:49:32 +1300
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Roger Whitmarsh" <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM>
>To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:50 AM
>Subject: Icons
>> Folks, I just tried to download some icons from...
>>
>> http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons.pl/map
>>
>> ...but although another web page with the appropriate name is
>> displayed, no download takes place.
>> Is there something I have to do to download an icon?

>Did you click on one ot therm?
>Etienne

Yes I clicked on several of them. In each case another web page
was loaded, completely blank except for a tiny blank rectangle
in the top left corner. No download is initiated.
Here's an example, it's the URL of the page displayed when I
click on the icon 'archive1':

http://www.palmtop.net/iconserver/icn/archive1.icn

I'd appreciate it if someone else would try it and see if
they get the same result. Maybe it's just me.
Perhaps this collection is downloadable as a set? I couldn't
find it on SUPER though.
Cheers, Roger.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:01:23 -0800
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On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Roger Whitmarsh wrote:

> Yes I clicked on several of them. In each case another web page was
> loaded, completely blank except for a tiny blank rectangle in the top
> left corner. No download is initiated. Here's an example, it's the URL
> of the page displayed when I click on the icon 'archive1':

It sounds like your web browser has some plugin that is trying to display
.icn files rather than just letting you download them like it should.  If
you can't find and disable the program or plugin that is doing so, you
could try right-clicking on an icon and selecting "Save As..." or "Save
Target As..." or whatever the option is on your browser.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:03:27 +0100
Reply-To:     Axel Berger <Axel-Berger@NEXGO.DE>
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Ulrich Allen wrote:
> if I understand you right, Axel,
> it has nothing to do with HPGL and therefore there is
> no chance to solve the problem with PrintGL?

That's it. As I explained privately it is EscP, a low resolution grphic
80 by 60 dpi in a format understood by nine pin as well as 24 pin and
compatible inkjet printers.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:29:29 +0100
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I missed Axel's diagnosis, but I understand you are still trying to find out
what printer language your scope talks. I tried to send the following some
days ago, but it may not have found its way; excuse me for the duplicate if
it did do.

I have no translation program for you, but I can tell you the codes a
ThinkJet understands.

The HP ThinkJet printer is an early 1980s device. This would not normally
have IR. I wonder whether the scope would expect an IR module connected to
the printer via HP-IL. HP-IL was a then new interface specially designed for
the communication between low-power PCs (such as the HP-41 and the HP-110
and Portable Plus) and peripherals, including the connection between
measuring devices and printers and tape or disk drives. One model of the
ThinkJet had this interface. I still have one in working condition, although
I have not used it in two years.
In HP mode (it does have Epson or "alternate" mode as well) the ThinkJet
uses a printer language which is in fact an early version of PCL, although
it was just called HP mode in the early docs I have. The graphics of this is
entirely row-wise raster based. This is different from HPGL, which is a
vector graphics language. I actually did write some drivers and conversion
programmes for this ThinkJet mode, as some of my programs using a ThinkJet
driver would produce rather poor graphics (LQ - low quality?). It should not
be too difficult to write a program catching the Thinkjet input, translate
it, and dump it on a screen. I'll list the main escape sequences below, so
you can possibly decode the output of your scope. If you need more
information, contact me privately.

Esc *r#S Sets dot density: #<=640 print region is 640 dots wide, density 96
dots per inch, both horizontally and vertically, #>640 print region 1280
dots wide, density 192 dpi horizontally, 96 vertically;
Esc*rA Switch from text to graphics
Esc*rB Terminates raster graphics
Esc*b#W Next # bytes belong to one dot row and must be interpreted as
graphics bytes: if # greater than width of print region, then excess data
for this row are not printed, if # smaller, then rightmost dots on line are
left blank;
Graphics bytes: 8 bit each, each bit controls one dot; 0 means blank, 1 dot
printed; most significant (first) bit is leftmost dot, etc.
Note that in the above coding, # is a number in character format, so 640
would take 3 bytes (but 0, in one byte, would have the same effect!); that
is why the terminator bytes (S and W in this case) are there.

That is basically it. Printing text is done with what would now be regarded
as a subset of PCL as going to laser printers as well. There may also be
some Esc sequences used for page formatting etc., and these are again quite
similar to what is being used in modern PCL. The strings send to the printer
may also include certain HP-IL commands, if it was supposed to find the IR
on HP-IL. I could probably dig the HP-IL codes up for you as well, but I
don't remember them (HP-IL was discontinued after a few years -
frustrating!). However, you might first want to find out whether you
somewhere hear Esc*b#W and then # graphics bytes before the next Esc*b#W, so
you'll know you are listening to the above language.

The ThinkJet "Alternate mode" (Epson) takes graphics bytes as column
graphics, as opposed to the above row graphics. In this mode you should
expect EscK## or EscL##, with each # standing for one byte instead of
Esc*b#W:

EscK#1#2 single density column graphics with #1 and #2 defining the binary
number of graphics bytes that will be sent to the printer. For numbers above
256, #2 is most significant byte, for lower numbers #2 is 0.
Esc L#1#2 double density as above.
In column graphics mode, the most significant bit of a graphics data byte is
the top dot of the column. In this mode, explicit line feeds must be used
between rows in order to advance the paper.

I hope this helps!

Geert.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:34:10 +0100
Reply-To:     Axel Berger <Axel-Berger@NEXGO.DE>
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"g. van wirdum" wrote:
> In this mode you should
> expect EscK## or EscL##, with each # standing for one byte

The snippet I received was actually $1b $2a $04 (Esc * 004), but that is
the same and very probably understood by the thinkjet (which i do not
know) too.

Axel

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Date:         Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:41:21 +1300
Reply-To:     Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM>
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Ian wrote:
>It sounds like your web browser has some plugin that is trying to display
>.icn files rather than just letting you download them like it should.  If
>you can't find and disable the program or plugin that is doing so, you
>could try right-clicking on an icon and selecting "Save As..." or "Save
>Target As..." or whatever the option is on your browser.
Sorry to waste bandwidth folks. I tried again using Internet Exposure
instead of my usual browser Netscape. Worked fine, so obviously a
problem with Netscape or its setup on my PC.
Thanks for all your help (yet again)
Cheers, Roger

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Date:         Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:41:25 +0100
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> $1b $2a $04 (Esc * 004)

I get your point, but I don't believe my 1984 HP-ThinkJet would! The
sentence was perhaps directed to a different or newer printer, or to another
device, such as an interface or loop controller. Or would you incidentally
have caught a graphics 1b byte, which then would not have the Esc meaning? I
admit the 1b 2a chain very much looks like the beginning of a message.

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Date:         Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:14:34 +1300
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01h28m ago Roger Whitmarsh wrote:

> Sorry to waste bandwidth folks. I tried again using Internet
> Exposure

Nice one :)

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Date:         Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:45:02 -0600
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Joe Martinez Lopez wrote:
>
> Hello Everybody,
>
> I'm trying to configure acad r10 into my lx.
>
> I have downloaded the last ACADLX file from S.U.P.E.R.
>
> I read somewhere that the best video graphics adapter
> is IBM Color/Graphics,but this choice shows the
> autocad command prompt in the midle of the screen.
>
> Can anybody give me any advice...
>
> Thank you

I just rechecked my configuration, and I've got it set as IBM CGA, so
that's not your problem. Did you configure the CGA according to the
instructions I put in the files on S.U.P.E.R. regarding the
vertical/horizontal aspect? It's supposed to be 2 to 1, because the LX
screen is 640x200, rather than the 320x200 CGA standard.

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Date:         Thu, 31 Oct 2002 04:33:52 +0100
Reply-To:     Nathalie Bugeaud <planetary@FREE.FR>
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Subject:      Fluff - Request - websites for fair reporting and embargoed news
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The internet gives me 'choice' of news, an unbiased view of the world (which
i download to read on my LX in leasure time).

There are a few unbiased, 'politically incorrect' etc sites i know of
(fredoneverything, fair.org, manumit, quackwatch, urbanlegends, skeptics),
but i am sure there are others you dear list members may like to tell me
about.

Example - After they caught the 'sniper' all news here in France about the
motives died, whereas last year`s news about school shootings went on and on
about motives of the Colmbine <sp> boys.

I now received news of surprising motives of the sniper. Anyone wants it,
please ask privately.

Dr.Nat (fighing for Freedom and the American Way)  :) ... which i take as
the 1st Amendment of the American Constitution

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Date:         Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:45:39 +0200
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Oliver Chua writes:
> Any chance you remember the program or have a copy of it?  I did a google
> search and was not successful.  I think that program may just be the proper
> incentive for me to upgrade a simple Basic program I wrote 7 years ago.

The name of the program is "printgl". Back in the days when autocad and all
other cad cam programs could only output drawings to plotters (read that
as Hp poltters), it was a godsend. It would convert the plotter file to something
you could print on a printer. It is available on simtel if you search for HPGL.

--
** David Becher
** davidbATnetmedia.net.il   davidbATcimatron.co.il
** www.cimatron.co.il

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Date:         Thu, 31 Oct 2002 00:03:41 -0600
Reply-To:     Andrew <andrewaa@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Automatic digest processor wrote:

> Subject: Acad Questions
> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:27:52 +0100
> From: Joe Martinez Lopez <i_eseberri_hplx@YAHOO.ES>
>
> Hello Everybody,
>
> I'm trying to configure acad r10 into my lx.
>
> I have downloaded the last ACADLX file from S.U.P.E.R.
>
> I read somewhere that the best video graphics adapter
> is IBM Color/Graphics,but this choice shows the
> autocad command prompt in the midle of the screen.
>
> Can anybody give me any advice...
>
Joe
I'm also interested in running autoCAD on the palmtop.
What pointing device are you planning on.
I got a "Barbie" pen mouse with CAD in mind but haven't gotten any
farther.
Let us know how it works out.


--
Andrew King
Ann Arbor Michigan
technology is the answer, what was the question?

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Date:         Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:07:47 +0100
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"g. van wirdum" wrote:
> I admit the 1b 2a chain very much looks like the beginning of a message.

It is one. I had the complete beginning of the output and those bytes
begin the first line of graphics. I'd repost it here, but I do not know
an easy way to convert binary to hex - I view it as hex in VC, but how
can I save it in that format?

Axel

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Date:         Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:58:34 +0100
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From:         Gustavo Adolfo La Chica <galachica@TELEPOLIS.COM>
Subject:      Re: ABC/LX settings for 1800 mAh bttys?
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Hi
        A month ago I searched Technical docs about how use my
NiCd charger with NiMH batteries. I found a very good explanation
at Panasonic web page:

http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/battery/oem/images/pdf/Panasonic_NiMH_ChargeMethods.pdf

        It wasn't useful for me because I don't know the physical
parameters of my charger nor knowledge to deal with them. I hope
it be helpful for somebody.
Sincerely,
                Gustavo Adolfo

On 29 Oct 2002, at 11:55, Tim wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just bought a pair of 1800 mAh bttys. at Fry's Electronics (Rayovac brand,
> $7.49 a pair!). I'm charging them in an external charger for their first
> go-round, but wondered if anyone would care to share their ABC/LX settings,
> etc. w/ me.
>
> I haven't used the program in a long time and wondered if it was a good idea
> for these new "powerhouse" batteries or if it wasn't really designed for
> NiMH batteries and I should just charge them externally ....
>
> Any thoughts, advice, etc. are appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
>
> --tim
>
> Tim Raymond
> -------------------------------------------
> "There's always a way to do it better.... Find it!" T.A. Edison
>
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Date:         Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:29:15 +0000
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From:         Stefan Peichl <hplx@PGDN.DE>
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Hello Al and list,

after month of frustration about the non working reply function
for exploded digest messages from HPLX-L, Tony Hutchins and
myself started a new debug session and finally identified the
problem, thereby digging up the new POST/LX 3.1d version.

Many thanks to Tony, who summarized of what happens:

| Normally the HPLX-L messages, including unfinished digests are
| sent using the uconn BSMTP server.
|
| One exception is the transmission of the finished digest.
| We do not have a complete description of what happens, but
| when it is sent to subscribers with a .com or .net address (or
| a .nz) it is *still* sent using the uconn BSMTP server.
|
| However, when it is transmitted to subscribers with a .de
| address, the uconn BSMTP server is not used. Instead we have
| seen: mail.listserv.dfn.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a), and also
| listserv.tau.ac.il used.
|
| The digests appear to be created once at uconn. The digests
| transmitted via the uconn BSMTP are just fine, and can be
| properly interpreted as multipart/digest.
|
| However those transmitted via other SMTP all have no trully
| blank lines after the first MIME boundary. Instead each trully
| blank line (a CRLF pair) has a real space inserted (CRLF space
| CRLF). This causes the digest to be improperly separated by
| user agents - separation itself is still of course possible,
| but a trully blank line (a CRLF pair) after the abbreviated
| digest headers, is necessary to distinguish these headers from
| the content of each message, and this cannot be done if the
| separator is CR LF BLANK CR LF, instead of CR LF CR LF.

Al, is it possible for you to force all digests to be sent
using the uconn BSMTP? This would be a big relief for all
german digest subscribers.

Stefan

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Date:         Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:07:34 -0800
Reply-To:     Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Personal Food Analyst questions
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Has anyone ever looked at the DB4/QLK database used in PFA to determine its
type?

I'm running into some limits in PFA whereby I can enter new items, but
can't subsequently edit them due to limitations in the viewing module.
Therefore, I'd like to use an external database program (if possible) to
make any alterations.

Also, has anyone tried converting the USDA nutrient database into something
useable for PFA?  Or even converting it into something simply viewable on
the 200LX?  The database is at
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/SR15/dnload/sr15dnld.html

The USDA database is available as comma-delimited text, so translation to a
DB (but not .gdb due to its size) should be just a matter of some
programmatic elbow grease, but I don't want to re-invent the wheel if
someone out there has already done so ... but if I end up converting it to
say dBase-3 format is anyone interested in getting a copy?

PFA is good for monitoring your food intake, so considering how much food I
eat, it's now the most heavily used app on my LX <g>.  Thanks.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:35:29 -0800
Reply-To:     "COOPER,SALLY (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" <sally_cooper@HP.COM>
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From:         "COOPER,SALLY (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" <sally_cooper@HP.COM>
Subject:      Re: Personal Food Analyst questions
Comments: To: "Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM" <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
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Hi Longden,
This wheel has been partially invented.  You can find the zipped file
"usda.zip" at http://www.palmtop.net/hp_db.html .  The zipped file contains
a txt file with information about the database and 22 individual db files
that each contain a category of foods.  I don't know if it will work on PFA,
but it will be viewable on the 200LX.

Sally



-----Original Message-----
From: Longden Loo [mailto:Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 7:08 AM
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Personal Food Analyst questions

<snip>

Also, has anyone tried converting the USDA nutrient database into something
useable for PFA?  Or even converting it into something simply viewable on
the 200LX?  The database is at
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/SR15/dnload/sr15dnld.html

<snip>

- Longden
<snip>

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Date:         Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:24:25 +1300
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--
Did anybody figure out the best way to run VC.COM on the
palmtop? It seems to load fast if run from a:\, but needs
about 560K of lower ram to work.
-Tony

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Date:         Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:08:52 +0800
Reply-To:     Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET>
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Paul and David,

Found Printgl.  Nice program and very useful.  Thank you all for your help.

Oliver

>The name of the program is "printgl". Back in the days when autocad and all
>other cad cam programs could only output drawings to plotters (read that
>as Hp poltters), it was a godsend. It would convert the plotter file to
something
>you could print on a printer. It is available on simtel if you search for
HPGL.

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Date:         Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:04:29 -0600
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From:         "David R. Birch" <dbirch@WI.RR.COM>
Subject:      Re: also interested in ACAD R10 on palmtop
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Andrew wrote:
>

> Joe
> I'm also interested in running autoCAD on the palmtop.
> What pointing device are you planning on.
> I got a "Barbie" pen mouse with CAD in mind but haven't gotten any
> farther.
> Let us know how it works out.
>
> --
> Andrew King
> Ann Arbor Michigan
> technology is the answer, what was the question?

I've found a Cirque Easycat touchpad that works with a standard
Micro$oft Mouse driver very well.

David R. Birch

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