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Everett wrote:
""The ROMs only had room for one language, so we had to do separate builds
for each language.  French was the toughest to shoe-horn in, as it's the
most "verbose" (in terms of characters to say the same thing) of the
languages we did.

Anyone know the number of units made in languages other than US-English. It
may aid Sotheby`s in pricing auctions for rare items (one day)
Dr.Nat ;)
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Dzon wrote:
> does there exist some tool for SMS sending

Try very hard to get into Everett Kaser's good books. There is a very
nice implementation to do just that inside the ROM of my 700 LX. Inside
that 700 used exactly the same Nokia card I have bought for my laptop, a
standard PCMCIA card that can be used as a GSM modem in the 200's slot.
So if somehow we were to get a RAM version of that 700 ROM program all
those who (not without reason) cosider my 700 too ungainly and bulky
should be served very nicely. And Everett, while you are working on
that, the fax software too might be nice to have, especially as you can
use it over GSM but are by no means forced to do so.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> When I once tried to take apart my 700LX, I had problems getting to the
> screen, so I left it untouched. ;-) I won't try it once more.

As far as I can remember, that screen assembly was easier to get at and
out in my 700 than the 200. But I too won't take one apart just to
satisfy curiosity. If the LCD assembly is identical, would you be
prepared to be sent just that to work on, as that is the part of the
operation I am most scared about?

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Hal,

Fair enough. This is a very reasonable approach.



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393
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>
>
> <<I will upgrade two or three LXs when the upgrade is available. I would
> be happiest if I could do this through Thaddeus to avoid the shipping
> expense and shipping time.
>
> Hal, are you listening?>>
>
> Yes, I am always listening<g>. I have to convince my conservative
> colleagues in our repair center (who have to take the heat from me if
> there is a screw up) to go for it. Likely, if we offer it, we will wait
> and see how the initial brave souls who do it themselves or have Thomas
> do it in Germany like it. Also, since parts (especially screens) are
> hard to come by, we want to make sure we can honor warranty.
>
> In other words it will be at least several months and probably longer.
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Hal wrote...
HG> The irony as you will recall, Everett, is that HP already had had a
HG> great lead in producing laptops. Our company produced magazine and
HG> catalog for the HP 110 and Portable Plus for 8 years, starting in 1985,
HG> even though they were only manufactured from 1983-6. The parallel with
HG> the HP LX series is amazing. HP was WAY ahead of the curve with their
HG> DOS laptops. Corvallis  emphasized (IMHO) the right things -- long
HG> battery life, instant on. Like the LX they didn't know how to market it,
HG> and eventually killed it despite the immense popularity among its
HG> dedicated user base. Then as you say, years later, HP rediscovered the
HG> laptop and had to play catch-up.

Yes, Hal, unfortunately that seems to have been HP's modus operandi
most of the time I worked there: create great products, then kill
them because the world didn't fall immediately at your feet.  Of
course, by the mid-80's Bill & Dave had pretty well stepped down
from running the company, and the changes were coming fast and furious
in terms of "vision".

I remember when I was first working at HP (as a production worker!)
in 1976-77.  The annual "Division Review" was happening, and at the
time the calculator division (newly built and opened in Corvallis,
having moved there from the SF-bay area in mid 76) was not faring
well, losing money.  There was a LOT of concern amongst the folks
at Corvallis that if things didn't turn around soon, that the plug
would be pulled and we'd be making oscilloscopes or something.

One of the production "leads" (first level supervisor) ended up
sitting next to Bill Hewlett at lunch (you'd never seen upper
management eating lunch with the rank & file TODAY!), and she
asked him about that.  He turned to her and said, "Shirley, we
went to all of the trouble and expense to build this facitily
here in Corvallis to make calculators.  We're not going to turn
our backs on you just because you don't make a profit for a few
months!"  (Well, it was going on a year at that point that we'd
not been making a profit!)

But that shows you the difference between someone with the vision
and ability to BUILD a company like HP used to be, and someone
out of business school who moves in to make multi-billion dollar
merger deals and slice-and-dice entire groups of the company.

Sigh.  It just depresses me to think of what was and what is...
Sort of like Camelot.  But I consider myself fortunate to have
worked there in the last of the "good years", to have experienced
some of the great projects and people that I did, and have gotten
out when I did. :-)))

Everett

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Hal wrote...
HG> According to my sources, much of the internal 200LX documentation was
HG> lost in the transfer!  Also, as I recall hearing, the Lotus EXM System
HG> Manager stuff was never well documented and the code difficult to
HG> follow.

I'd never heard about the lost documentation, but it wouldn't have
surprised me.  As for the EXM stuff not being well documented and
difficult to follow in the code, I guess that's true (thinking back
on it).  You have to remember that you two different companies with
totally different cultures and methods of development, clear across
the country from each other, trying to write code that worked
together.  And do it in 9 months.  It's amazing it ever worked at
all.  Actually, EXM programming is quite simple.  You just include
the headers, link the proper start-up code, run the EXE through a
filter tool, and voila, EXM.  But documented?  Who had time???? :-)

I haven't looked at the SUPER archive (wherever and whatever that
is), but I assume it has the package of publicly released tools and
documentation that we did way back when, which included some docs
and tools for making EXMs.

Everett

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Hi Matthias

1 day 01h15m ago Matthias Paul wrote:

> Daniel, do you know what hardware criteria make it require the
> ACECARD driver? Since it is apparently not the size of the disk

No, I don't know. But maybe Back Baggette knows? Mack, are you
listening?

daniel


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Hi Barry

16h24m ago Barry wrote:

> I meant with the light on there doesn't seem to be enough contrast.
> I realize pictures can mislead in a case like this and that's
> really what I'm asking about.  It seems, from the picture, that
> it's bright enough but there isn't enough contrast to be
> comfortable with the light on.  Is this really the way it looks?

The picture shows my prototype machine. This one has a very bright
backlight. As I mentioned earlier, we have optimized everything, the
backlight is now darker, much more power-economic and thus a lot better
than this one whiwn on the picture, also the contrast with enabled
backlight is much better, because of the darker backlight.

Maybe I should take a new picture with the new backlight, but I don't
have a machine upgraded with that one yet, which can be used as a model
for a nice photo. ;-) As soon as I have such a machine, I will take a
new picture, which hopefully will represent the real contrast
conditions more precisely.

daniel

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Daniel,

I have two other hand held machines with backlights.  One is an iPAQ 3850
and the other a Handspring Visor Pro.  I find I prefer the Handspring for
reading in bed, since it's a truly "back" lit machine and much less harsh
for bedtime reading.  The iPAQ, since it's "edge" lit throws a bright light
sideways and the light disturbs my wife's sleep.  It appears from the
picture that your upgrade back lights the screen.  Is that accurate?

Also, I've noticed that the Visor's screen is not viewable in bright light
when the backlight is activated.  If yours is similar, it would be difficult
to photograph it without using a timed exposure with the machine in a dark
or very dim environment.

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Hi Bill

07m ago Bill Sprague wrote:

> I have two other hand held machines with backlights.  One is an iPAQ 3850
> and the other a Handspring Visor Pro.  I find I prefer the Handspring for
> reading in bed, since it's a truly "back" lit machine and much less harsh
> for bedtime reading.  The iPAQ, since it's "edge" lit throws a bright light
> sideways and the light disturbs my wife's sleep.  It appears from the
> picture that your upgrade back lights the screen.  Is that accurate?

Yes, this is a true backlight. There is an Electroluminescent foil
behind the screen.
I use it for some months now, but my wife still complains each
evening in bed, because it disturbs her, although it's not an
"edge light". ;-)

> Also, I've noticed that the Visor's screen is not viewable in bright light
> when the backlight is activated.  If yours is similar, it would be difficult
> to photograph it without using a timed exposure with the machine in a dark
> or very dim environment.

True. It is difficult. I have taken about 20 photos in a series with
different shutter speeds from about 10 sec to about 1/30 sec and then
I have chosen the two best ones for that animated GIF on the homepage.

daniel


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I have been too busy to contribute of late and just did some sporadic
lurking. I caught Daniel's updates (many, many thanks Daniel for all your
work on our behalf) recently and downloaded the recent palmtop additions.

I have just had a look at Nathalie's databases and most of them are now in
my C:_DAT  directory (I have the 32mb DS). The rest are on my A: drive.

Words fail me, but all I can say is that if any of you are even remotely
interested in the many areas covered, you must try them. I found them all
fascinating and most of them indispensable. I really loved the Astronomy db.

Fantastic work, Nathalie, congratulations and many thanks.

Happy New Year to all,

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Daniel,

Thanks, I'm looking forward to the release.

Bill

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Subject: Re: Backlight news


Hi Bill

07m ago Bill Sprague wrote:

> I have two other hand held machines with backlights.  One is an iPAQ 3850
> and the other a Handspring Visor Pro.  I find I prefer the Handspring for
> reading in bed, since it's a truly "back" lit machine and much less harsh
> for bedtime reading.  The iPAQ, since it's "edge" lit throws a bright
light
> sideways and the light disturbs my wife's sleep.  It appears from the
> picture that your upgrade back lights the screen.  Is that accurate?

Yes, this is a true backlight. There is an Electroluminescent foil
behind the screen.
I use it for some months now, but my wife still complains each
evening in bed, because it disturbs her, although it's not an
"edge light". ;-)

> Also, I've noticed that the Visor's screen is not viewable in bright light
> when the backlight is activated.  If yours is similar, it would be
difficult
> to photograph it without using a timed exposure with the machine in a dark
> or very dim environment.

True. It is difficult. I have taken about 20 photos in a series with
different shutter speeds from about 10 sec to about 1/30 sec and then
I have chosen the two best ones for that animated GIF on the homepage.

daniel


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Is there any secret to getting the 200LX Connectivity Pack to work under
Windows ME?

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Nathalie wrote...
NB> Anyone know the number of units made in languages other than US-English. It
NB> may aid Sotheby`s in pricing auctions for rare items (one day)
NB> Dr.Nat ;)

:-) Sorry, I never followed the sales figures closely enough to
remember them.  I can tell you that there were 4 localized versions
(I *THINK* :-).  French, Spanish, Italian, and German.  I think.
Maybe it was six.  But I don't know what the other two would be,
and I think it was four.

Everett

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Hi beta-testers,

help me to test plugin for Total (formely Windows) Commander. TotCmd
with this plugin is similar as popular TransFile, but with power and
possibilities of TotCmd. Latest version (5.50) of TotCmd is needed
(http://www.ghisler.com).

You can download plugin from:

http://www.volny.cz/zampach/wfx_hplx.zip


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Can anyone give me a yes/no answer to the question
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I can print to my HP laserjet printer using IR and under
the systems manager.

But I can't get the latex package to print to the same printer.
What are the required settings?  And where do I enter them.

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Hi, pavel ! Excellent, tks !

As frequent user of this TotCmd, you did me a big favour.=20

The only limitation seems to be the speed of 19200 bps

Thanks for your work.
Regards,=20
Carlos (B Tester)
BsAs, Argentina

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Hi beta-testers,

help me to test plugin for Total (formely Windows) Commander. TotCmd
with this plugin is similar as popular TransFile, but with power and
possibilities of TotCmd. Latest version (5.50) of TotCmd is needed
(http://www.ghisler.com).

You can download plugin from:

http://www.volny.cz/zampach/wfx_hplx.zip
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hi,

On 1 Jan 2003 at 18:40, Daniel wrote:

> I use it for some months now, but my wife still complains each
> evening in bed, because it disturbs her, although it's not an
> "edge light". ;-)

I think it would also disturb her if it was completely dark, because
you pay attention to the palmtop and not to her. (talking from my own
experience with my wife)

cheers,
Werner

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Everett wrote:
""The ROMs only had room for one language, so we had to do separate builds
for each language.  French was the toughest to shoe-horn in, as it's the
most "verbose" (in terms of characters to say the same thing) of the
languages we did.

Anyone know the number of units made in languages other than US-English. It
may aid Sotheby`s in pricing auctions for rare items (one day)
Dr.Nat ;)
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Hi Barry

16h24m ago Barry wrote:

> I meant with the light on there doesn't seem to be enough contrast.
> I realize pictures can mislead in a case like this and that's
> really what I'm asking about.  It seems, from the picture, that
> it's bright enough but there isn't enough contrast to be
> comfortable with the light on.  Is this really the way it looks?

The picture shows my prototype machine. This one has a very bright
backlight. As I mentioned earlier, we have optimized everything, the
backlight is now darker, much more power-economic and thus a lot better
than this one whiwn on the picture, also the contrast with enabled
backlight is much better, because of the darker backlight.

Maybe I should take a new picture with the new backlight, but I don't
have a machine upgraded with that one yet, which can be used as a model
for a nice photo. ;-) As soon as I have such a machine, I will take a
new picture, which hopefully will represent the real contrast
conditions more precisely.

daniel

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| Is there any secret to getting the 200LX Connectivity Pack to
work under
| Windows ME?
|
| ...Gary


Never done this myself, but if all else fails, try a dual boot
setup with the DOS files of Win98.It's explained in detail at
http://mvps.org/dts/WinME_DOS/Win-ME.htm


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On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Tim wrote:

> How can LXCIC "see" the proper MAC address; then Post/LX
> report something different (only the second number of 6 is
> different)?
>
> Could this be the trouble, OR is it "beneath" either program
> to really notice this as long as I've got the environment
> variables, etc., "set" properly?

I think the IP numbers for host, gateway, network and DNS are the
important pieces.


> I don't really want to turn the router's DHCP services off. If
> I leave it on;  then set the LX for some arbitrary IP address,
> w/in the acceptable range, would that help?

I think you can assign and use a static IP without turning off
DHCP.

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<<Carlos,

I'm from Argentina.

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Is there any other member of this community from Argentina ? >>

My wife is from Uruguay, and we visit often and just returned. We just
met many Argentineans at Punte del Este and Atlantida on the coast. Next
time, we were thinking of spending time in Argentina.  (For those who
don't know, Uruguay is across the river from Argentina).

We are in the process of buying a number of HP 200LX's from bottling
companies in Brazil!

Hal from Thaddeus.=20

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<<I will upgrade two or three LXs when the upgrade is available. I would
be happiest if I could do this through Thaddeus to avoid the shipping
expense and shipping time.

Hal, are you listening?>>

Yes, I am always listening<g>. I have to convince my conservative
colleagues in our repair center (who have to take the heat from me if
there is a screw up) to go for it. Likely, if we offer it, we will wait
and see how the initial brave souls who do it themselves or have Thomas
do it in Germany like it. Also, since parts (especially screens) are
hard to come by, we want to make sure we can honor warranty.

In other words it will be at least several months and probably longer.

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Hello :-)

02h56m ago Dana de Jong wrote:

> Can anyone give me a yes/no answer to the question
> of whether transfile works with IR.

In general, yes. It is only dependent on the hardware of your computer.
Learn all about it on http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ir_dev

In short: If your Windows computer has an IR interface, which is usable
as a COM port in Windows, and which can be configured (usually in the
BIOS) to use the "HPSIR" or "SIR" protocol, then it will work. If it
only supports IrDA, it probably doesn't work. But I have seen laptops
which only have an IrDA setting in the BIOS and no HPSIR/SIR, which
worked, too.

daniel

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Hello

03h ago Dana de Jong wrote:

> I can print to my HP laserjet printer using IR and under
> the systems manager.
>
> But I can't get the latex package to print to the same printer.
> What are the required settings?  And where do I enter them.

Do you use my "LXTeX2e" package?

Well, it can have various reasons.

1. Did you set the COM port to "IR" and the appropriate baud rate for
your printer?
Stefan Peichl's "setcom1" is the ideal tool for that, because it can be
used in a batch file (the latex print batch for example) to set the
port. If you use my package, you have an example of it in the print
batch (was it p.bat?) in the bin directory.

2. Does the printer also have a wired serial port? So you can try if it
works that way, to exclude other reasons.

3. I also have often problems printing from LaTeX, but I always thought
it is due to the serial-parallel converter I use. However, I sometimes
had success when playing with the options of the DVI driver ofr the
printer. Especially you may try to replace "COM1" by "PRN" or vice
versa. Or even try "LPT1", since I have the impression that "LPT1" is
hard-routed to COM1 or PRN on the palmtop.

4. Handshaking may be a problem. The DVI drivers print in Graphics
mode, so they produce lots of output, and serial data transfer works
most reliable with handshaking enabled (hardware handshaking is the
best, of course, bu doesn't  work over IR. When using IR, you should
use software handshaking (XON/XOFF)).

5. BTW, this is a major difference between printing from the System
Manager and from LXTEX: From System Manager, I believe you always print
in Text mode, which is much easier to handle at all.

Please let me know about any success, since I am also interested in
printing under LXTeX. Here it sometimes works without any problem, but
someimtes I cannot get it to work at all. :-( So I basically gave it up
and transver the DVI files to the desktop and print from there.

daniel


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From Everett
<<Sigh.  It just depresses me to think of what was and what is... Sort
of like Camelot.  But I consider myself fortunate to have worked there
in the last of the "good years", to have experienced some of the great
projects and people that I did, and have gotten out when I did. :-)))>>

Amen. Actually, our company probably has benefited the most from
Corvallis' "strategy". We've supported great, fun, useful products from
HP Corvallis for 18 years. In the process, we've made friends all over
the world, who we've partnered with, who have written for us, or who
have purchased from us.=20

A related perk -- our customers and partners are the kind of people who
are interested in these superb products. These are special people. Our
customer service people, who have worked elsewhere, always tell me how
lucky we are in terms of our customer base. =20

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At 1/2/03-12:10 AM, Everett Kaser <everett@kaser.com> wrote:
>Nathalie wrote...
>NB> Anyone know the number of units made in languages other than
>US-English. It
>NB> may aid Sotheby`s in pricing auctions for rare items (one day)
>NB> Dr.Nat ;)
>
>:-) Sorry, I never followed the sales figures closely enough to
>remember them.  I can tell you that there were 4 localized versions
>(I *THINK* :-).  French, Spanish, Italian, and German.  I think.
>Maybe it was six.  But I don't know what the other two would be,
>and I think it was four.

US English, UK English, French, Spanish, and German, Also there was a
Korean and I am thinking there was a Nordic version. I personally do not
know of Italian but that does not mean there wasn't one. Also, my memory is
rather hazy on the Nordic version (there would have to be several or
somehow they managed to meld them into one...) Also, wasn't there a
Portuguese version for (mostly) the Brazilian market?

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<<US English, UK English, French, Spanish, and German, Also there was a
Korean and I am thinking there was a Nordic version. I personally do not
know of Italian but that does not mean there wasn't one. Also, my memory
is rather hazy on the Nordic version (there would have to be several or
somehow they managed to meld them into one...) Also, wasn't there a
Portuguese version for (mostly) the Brazilian market?>>

There was Portuguese and pretty sure Swedish.

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I Have a computer with Windows ME on it and the connectivity pack runs just
fine.  Maybe try reinstalling it.

    Damian
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Is there any secret to getting the 200LX Connectivity Pack to work under
Windows ME?

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Hello list,
is there some howto for using WWW/LX via GPRS?
Thanks

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Hi

A couple of hours ago I decided to go to Pattaya International Racing
Circuit for a driving/racing course in february. Will be a lot of fun.
It is freezing outside here and I have not ridden a motorcycle since
september or something.

I will be in Thailand from 23.february until 06.march. I have no idea
where I will stay, but probably somewhere nice.:-)

I will attend a drivingcourse which is organized by the best Roadracers
in Norway. Will be a lot of fun.

I will ofcourse take my Hplx with me there and my Canon Powershot
digital camera my leathersuit and helmet, gloves and boots..

I would like to know how the electrical sockets are there. I think maybe
I will just use ordinary AA and leave the adapter at home. Suggestions?
But I need to charge the batteries for my camera.

If somebody has any info about the area about what to do and(!) what
_not_ to do and things like that please mail me off list (or onlist if
Hplx related)

I need suggestions on where to go to buy gadget thingies as memorycards
and things to see and do there.

TIA

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Hi

Found this on usenet.

How was it with the Tomerider files. Could they be read in any way on
the Hplx?

I would not mind having the IMDB on my flashcard.

Regards

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From: "ProPorta Ltd" <nospam_software@proporta.com>
Subject: Brand New Handheld IMDB Movie Database
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 12:26:24 +0000 (UTC)

Hi Movie fans,



Just a quick note before the year is out to say that we have just uploaded
the brand new set of the Internet Movie Database files to www.memoware.com
in TomeRaider format (www.tomeraider.com). These files are available for
Palm OS, Pocket PC, Psion, Symbian, Smart-Phone and Windows versions of
TomeRaider.



This movie guide is taken from the Internet Movie Database found at
www.imdb.com, the world's premier Movie information service, with up-to-date
information on tens of thousands of films.

Due to the enormity of the IMDB it is not possible to have every film listed
in the TomeRaider version, so we have made a number of different cuts of the
database to suit all needs. These range from a small 800k file which is
ideal for quick checks on whether a film is worth watching to a 17 megabyte
file with very detailed information on about 30,000 movies.



The fastest way to get the files is to simply visit http://www.memoware.com
and do a search for "IMDB"



Happy New Year,



Proporta


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On Thu,  2 Jan 2003 22:37:23 +0100, Dzon wrote:

> Hello list,
> is there some howto for using WWW/LX via GPRS?
> Thanks

Yes I use it with Gprs with my Ericsson T39m. (Well my T39 is bad and I
have not used gprs since summer 2002)

You need a special Www.exe since Ericsson (and Nokia) does not do what
they are supposed to do during the negotiatien while trying to
connect.....

Well I do not know if this special version of Www.exe is the public one
which you can find at D&A so please jump in here Avi?

Well this is what I got in my Www.cfg (check Daniel' website I am sure
he has something about Gprs there):

[Setup]
ISP_Gprs=Gprs
[Script]
CHAP_Script=PPP dial up using Chap or Pap
[CHAP_Script]
e=Initializing modem
m=
s=\r
w=5 OK
d=
s=\r
w=75 CONNECT
[ISP_Gprs]
;Magic=0  (maybe you have to remove the ; to make gprs to work
;askDNS1=0
;askDNS2=0
;mask1=0
;nocompress=1
;LCPwait=2
Port=-1
OmniGo=1
PPP=1
Modem=1
Baud=38400
My_IP=0.0.0.0
DNS_IP=212.17.131.3  (this is my networks dns
DNS2_IP=212.17.113.194
Script=CHAP_Script
Login=T39 (something)
ModemInit=AT+cgdcont=1,"IP","internet"
;,IP,internet (or this one)
Dial=*99*0*1*1# (to tell the phone yu want to use gprs)
Password=>333  ;something
;Dial=*99***1# :or the one above

I think other people on the list have done more gprs'ing than me, but I
am sure they will post here too..

Good luck

Regards

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Yes, I am using the latex2e package.  Everything works fine
on the hp 200lx except for the printing.

BTW thanks for making it available on the hp 200lx.  It is really
useful.  I can now latex on the fly!

Inside the pr.bat  (This is the batch file that I modified as per the
instructions)  file there are various things relating to the Ir
port to be set.   This uses SETCOM1, as I understand, the actual setting.
However I don't know the correct baud, data bits, parity setting.   Inside
the sys manager IrDa printing works with 9600 baud setting so I have used
"5ni"  (9600 baud, no parity, power up the ir port)  But no luck (not even
printing blinking suggesting communication)   Consulted the printer manual
(It is a HP laserjet 6MP) but there is no real mention of appropriate
communications settings under DOS.

I'll try the wired port suggestion if I can locate the appropriate cables.

Have tried replacing COM1 by PRN and vice versa, but no luck.  Will try
LPT!.  (BTW do I need ":" after each of these or is the ":" superfluous?)

Will keep posting relating to any progress.

Thanks for all the hints.!!

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> On 1 Jan 2003 at 18:40, Daniel wrote:
>
> > I use it for some months now, but my wife still complains each
> > evening in bed, because it disturbs her, although it's not an
> > "edge light". ;-)
>
> I think it would also disturb her if it was completely dark, because
> you pay attention to the palmtop and not to her. (talking from my own
> experience with my wife)

Same here.  Must be a disease or something.  ;-p

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Hi!

I've really enjoyed lurking on this group, and have
learned quite a few very useful hints on use of
these fine products.

I have a 200LX that I've gotten excellent use from
for many years. Recently it has gotten sick, viz

- there are two vertical lines of dead pixels near
the silkscreening for the f9 key.  Massage in the
area of the f5-f7 silkscreening fixes the problem
but as soon as I let go, it returns.  I understand that
this is probably a loose connection.
- the keys asdfgh have become intermittent.
sometimes they work and sometimes they don't.
Sometimes turning the unit off for a few minutes
will fix that temporarily, sometimes it won't.

My machine is DS, 8meg, with 110MB flash
card.

I'm trying to decide if I want to send the unit in
for repair, or buy a new machine.  I use the LX
for notetaking, and run about a half-dozen crucial
DOS applications that we have developed
over the years (I currently run them in SC
sessions).  I don't use the appointment
book because it is too awkward for me
in that there isn't enough space on the montly
views to adequately see my schedule.  I
actually find a paper calendar more useful.

I've heard of a DOS emulator that is supposed
to run on the PocketPC platform, and I've also
heard that PocketPCs have a calendar that
can be synchronized with a desktop PC.

Does anyone here have any opinion as to
whether I should go ahead and have the LX
repaired or spring for a PocketPC?  Functionality
is more important than money here (company
will pay either way).

- backlight is nice on PocketPC
- I need to run my DOS apps
   (can this PocketPC DOS emulator
   run more than one at once?)
- I'd like a calendar that works and can
   be synchronized with desktop PC.
- love the battery life on LX
- file interchangability with PC via plug-in
  card is essential

Help?

Thanks!

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Hi,

I wish all of you a happy new year.

Today, I was at CompUSA looking for the new HPs. There were new iPAQs but I
couldn't see any Jornadas. When I asked about the Jornadas, they told me
that they have been discontinued. According to CompUSA guys, HP will
only continue with the iPAQs. Is this true? After they killed the 200LX, did
they kill Jornadas too?

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I lean toward keeping the LX and having it repaired. You know what it can
do, whereas a PocketPC device has some unknowns for you. I doubt that you'll
be running any DOS apps in a satisfactory manner using an emulator.

Thanks,

Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992
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Everett Kaser writes:
> Hearts & Bones.  Built into some of the HP 100/200LX's.  I still like
> that game. :-)  None were built into the Portable Plus, although I
> did write a game specifically for it (and which you sold for me, Hal
> :-), called TigerFox.  A cat chases the fox through a maze game.
> And yes, I wrote Memo (ugh!).

"Ugh" you might say, but it still works well enough for me to use it for
sending all my emails....(including this). Many thanks...



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Avi wrote...
AM> US English, UK English, French, Spanish, and German, Also there was a
AM> Korean and I am thinking there was a Nordic version. I personally do not
AM> know of Italian but that does not mean there wasn't one. Also, my memory is
AM> rather hazy on the Nordic version (there would have to be several or
AM> somehow they managed to meld them into one...) Also, wasn't there a
AM> Portuguese version for (mostly) the Brazilian market?

Ah.  I don't remember anything about Nordic, but Portuguese does
sound sort of familiar (as well as US and UK).

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A. wrote...
AGO> Today, I was at CompUSA looking for the new HPs. There were new iPAQs but I
AGO> couldn't see any Jornadas. When I asked about the Jornadas, they told me
AGO> that they have been discontinued. According to CompUSA guys, HP will
AGO> only continue with the iPAQs. Is this true? After they killed the 200LX, did
AGO> they kill Jornadas too?

I don't know for sure, but I can WELL believe that to be true.  After
all, they killed off HP's line of notebooks in favor of Compaq's, so
I'd be surprised if they wouldn't do the same with the handhelds.
They kept a mix of the desktops, though.

Everett

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> > Hello list,
> > is there some howto for using WWW/LX via GPRS?
> > Thanks
>
> You need a special Www.exe since Ericsson (and Nokia) does not do what
> they are supposed to do during the negotiatien while trying to
> connect.....

I own Siemens. Do I still need special www.exe?

> Well this is what I got in my Www.cfg (check Daniel' website I am sure
> he has something about Gprs there):

I did not find anything useful to make WWW/LX work with GPRS. I checked
out http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx

> ModemInit=AT+cgdcont=1,"IP","internet"
> ;,IP,internet (or this one)
> Dial=*99*0*1*1# (to tell the phone yu want to use gprs)

this is usable on any phone? if not, how to check out what 'dial' do I
have to use?

Thanks for help, I thought there's some checkbox in WWW/LX setup like 'Use
GPRS', heh hopeless searching ;-)

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> I don't know for sure, but I can WELL believe that to be true.  After
> all, they killed off HP's line of notebooks in favor of Compaq's, so
> I'd be surprised if they wouldn't do the same with the handhelds.
> They kept a mix of the desktops, though.

I don't understand.  Compaq was the struggling company, not HP, right?  So
what is going on?   I bought an HP notebook this summer, because I did not
trust Compaq (after my Compaq desktop died two months out of warranty).

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On Thu,  2 Jan 2003 14:10:43 -0600, Hal Goldstein wrote:

> <<US English, UK English, French, Spanish, and German, Also there was a
> Korean and I am thinking there was a Nordic version. I personally do not
> know of Italian but that does not mean there wasn't one. Also, my memory
> is rather hazy on the Nordic version (there would have to be several or
> somehow they managed to meld them into one...) Also, wasn't there a
> Portuguese version for (mostly) the Brazilian market?>>
>
> There was Portuguese and pretty sure Swedish.

By norwegian/swedish you mean the keyboard overlay or a different rom?

I have both a norwegian bought machine and a Us version and the only
thing I can find that is different is the keyboard overlay which lacks
the norwegian characters on the US one.

What am I missing?

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First of all, a happy new year to all members of the list. I do not
want to send "happy new year spam", so there is also a question
attached.;-)
Maybe some expert is comfortable with the utility wget.
I want to use it for a batchfile to fetch the latest f-prot virus
signature files. The utility works fine, it compares file size and date
and loads down only newer files.
My problem is, that I want to download or check three files and I could
not find a command which allows this in one login procedure.

It is possible if the files are in one directory and match a file
pattern so I can work with wildcards. But is it possible to do it with
a list of files without connecting the fileserver for each file again?
My command now is:
wget -N -i getfprot.txt

and the input file contains:
ftp://ftp.f-prot.com/pub/*def*.zip
ftp://ftp.f-prot.com/pub/dos/f-prot.zip

Wget has to login once for each command line, and it takes much time to
login, more than to compare the files.
Maybe it is possible to do it more efficiently?

best regards,
Werner

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Hi,

I believe one of the selection criteria that was used was/is market share
and profitability to decide which product to adopt and which to drop.

With laptops and PDAs, it was very clear which was the winner.  For PDA, the
only Jornada that is going to be kept for the moment is the 728, clamshell
with a keyboard which CPQ doesn't have.  The 928s were only for telecom
providers and large customers that had projects that relied on it.

With desktops, there wasn't a clear winner.  In certain markets CPQ won, in
other markets HWP won.  It was also to do with store space (I forget correct
the term) allocation.

I can't remember the URL references now but it was found in news.com and
cnn.com while the merger was being debated upon.  Business sections.

Rgds,
weemeng

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Everett Kaser" <everett@KASER.COM>
> > I don't know for sure, but I can WELL believe that to be true.  After
> > all, they killed off HP's line of notebooks in favor of Compaq's, so
> > I'd be surprised if they wouldn't do the same with the handhelds.
> > They kept a mix of the desktops, though.
>
> I don't understand.  Compaq was the struggling company, not HP, right?  So
> what is going on?   I bought an HP notebook this summer, because I did not
> trust Compaq (after my Compaq desktop died two months out of warranty).
>
> Domingo
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<<
I own Siemens. Do I still need special www.exe?
>>

I had to read that twice before I realised what you mean.  For a moment I
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Hello

05h26m ago A. S. Tepper wrote:

> - there are two vertical lines of dead pixels near
> the silkscreening for the f9 key.  Massage in the
> area of the f5-f7 silkscreening fixes the problem
> but as soon as I let go, it returns.  I understand that
> this is probably a loose connection.

wuite hard to fix, but possible.
Please see http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair
exactly your problem is mentioned there, since it is one of the most
common problems of the 200LX

> - the keys asdfgh have become intermittent.
> sometimes they work and sometimes they don't.
> Sometimes turning the unit off for a few minutes
> will fix that temporarily, sometimes it won't.

Also that is covered by my repair page, I believe.
Try to press the keyboard case together on the edge below the
right shift key and the 0.= keys. This should fix the problem at least
temporarily. A permanent fix can be done in most cases by opening the
palmtop and cleaning the keyboard contacts which are in that area which
I just described.

> I'm trying to decide if I want to send the unit in
> for repair, or buy a new machine.  I use the LX

The keyboard can be repaired, even the screen repair is successful in
most cases (abt. 60% success rate), but then you have decide if you
want to spend the Thaddeus' repair flat (125$ I believe?), ot if you
rather spend the money on a new (i.e. used / refurbished) machine.
But you definitely won't get an adequate machine for 125$.

> Does anyone here have any opinion as to
> whether I should go ahead and have the LX
> repaired or spring for a PocketPC?  Functionality

Ah, so you mean you maybe want to buy another machine. Well, some
people become happy with other machines, some not. <g>
I don't know which type of person you are.

> - backlight is nice on PocketPC

can be upgraded on the 200LX soon.
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/backlight

> - I need to run my DOS apps
>    (can this PocketPC DOS emulator
>    run more than one at once?)

Depending on the hardware requirements of these apps, it can be a pain
to use them on an emulator. Especially if they make use of graphics
modes, or have to access the hardware of the palmtop (modem, ethernet
etc) directly. However, I don't have any experiences with emulators, so
others can comment much more accurate.

> - I'd like a calendar that works and can
>    be synchronized with desktop PC.

LX: You can synch the built-in calendar with Outlook, I think, using
Curtis Cameron's Outlook <-> LX converter.
Or, if you the built-in one is not sufficient for you, try PIM/PE,
which is much more powerful and flexible (but also relatively hard to
learn, if you are used to System Manager programs). PIM/PE can then be
used on a desktop PC in a Palmtop emulation, such as PALRUN.

HTH
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Hi Piet

10h32m ago Dana de Jong wrote:

> BTW thanks for making it available on the hp 200lx.  It is really
> useful.  I can now latex on the fly!

I remember that one list member set it up for printing via a fax
machine using the dvidot settings for fax output. Also a nice idea for
printing on the road. ;-)

> Inside the pr.bat  (This is the batch file that I modified as per the
> instructions)  file there are various things relating to the Ir
> port to be set.   This uses SETCOM1, as I understand, the actual setting.

Yes, SETCOM1 is the essential thing to be set. Everything else
shouldn't be related to the IR port, actually.

> However I don't know the correct baud, data bits, parity setting.   Inside
> the sys manager IrDa printing works with 9600 baud setting so I have used
> "5ni"  (9600 baud, no parity, power up the ir port)  But no luck (not even
> printing blinking suggesting communication)   Consulted the printer manual
> (It is a HP laserjet 6MP) but there is no real mention of appropriate
> communications settings under DOS.

Do you have a digital camera? If so, you can use that one to "look"
into the IR port and see if it is active if you let LaTeX print
something. The CCD chip of a digital camera is sensitive for infrared
light and you will see red light on the screen of the camera.

And also consider that printing can take a _very_ long time if 9600 baud
is used and graphic is printed (as is always the case if LatEX prints).
This time can be even longer if handshaking problems appear.

> Have tried replacing COM1 by PRN and vice versa, but no luck.  Will try
> LPT!.  (BTW do I need ":" after each of these or is the ":" superfluous?)


I have used /po=prn here for the dvidrv, I don't know if it also
accepts the :, but simply try it.

> Will keep posting relating to any progress.

Yes, please do so.

Maybe I'll do a few more test either, if I find the time.

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Hi Dzon

02h45m ago Dzon wrote:

> I own Siemens. Do I still need special www.exe?

You need the latest WWW package from www.dasoft.com. This includes the
www.exe version with the bugfix for Ericsson phones and all latest
improvements regarding GPRS.

With Siemens phones, you don't need the Ericsson workaround probably.
But in case it doesn't work, try
Magic=0
in the GPRS section of your www.cfg, this turns on that workaround and
may also help for Siemens phones.

> I did not find anything useful to make WWW/LX work with GPRS. I checked
> out http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx

> > ModemInit=AT+cgdcont=1,"IP","internet"
> > ;,IP,internet (or this one)
> > Dial=*99*0*1*1# (to tell the phone yu want to use gprs)
>
> this is usable on any phone? if not, how to check out what 'dial' do I
> have to use?

Look on the Internet for an AT command sheet for your phone. Maybe this
will help.
I have found several possible Dial strings. Here are the ones which
work for me (Ericsson T39m). Well, I copy my whole GPRS section:

[GPRS]
Magic=0
Port=-1
OmniGo=0
PPP=1
Modem=1
Baud=38400
My_IP=0.0.0.0
DNS_IP=212.023.097.002
DNS2_IP=212.023.097.003
Script=CHAP_Script
Login=gprs
Password=ty&)
;ModemInit=AT+cgdcont=3,"IP","internet.eplus.de"
ModemInit=ATZ
Dial=ATD*99***1#
;Dial=*99***3#
;Dial=*98*2#
;Dial=*99*0*1*1#
;Dial=+cgdcont=3*99#


The commented out dialstrings are some variations which I found on the
web, but I have tried all of them, and only the active one works for
me.
*99 usually tells the phone to start its PPP server and go into GPRS
mode, I don't know the exact meaning of the following charactes, but at
least one digit must be there which describes the number of the GPRS
setup in your phone to use. This will usually be "1", but maybe you
have to modify that number.
And for me, the simple ModemInit=ATZ works. I think this is because I
have set up all the other values properly in my phone, so I don't need
to give the access node address etc. in the init string.

But to be honest, I don't know why my setup works, I am only glad it
does. ;-)

Ah, and "login" and "password" does NOT depend on your ISP, but on your
PHONE! This is because WWW/LX connects via PPP to your phone (which
acts like an ISP in GPRS mode), so WWW/LX has to authenticate at the
phone. Usually login/password are some very simple words, or maybe they
are even irrelevant, this should be mentioned in the At command sheet
of your phone, or maybe even in the manual.
Here I have to use login=gprs and password=gprs.

daniel

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Le Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:01:45 -0600
"A. G. OZISIK" <agozisik@TTNET.NET.TR> a =E9crit:

> Today, I was at CompUSA looking for the new HPs. There were new iPAQs b=
ut I
> couldn't see any Jornadas. When I asked about the Jornadas, they told m=
e
> that they have been discontinued. According to CompUSA guys, HP will
> only continue with the iPAQs. Is this true? After they killed the 200LX=
, did
> they kill Jornadas too?

I am not very sure, but I think to remember that it was only the 5xx
serie of Jornada which would be discontinuated (to not interfere with
iPAQs). The 7xx serie continuing to be sold (until when ? that in
another question...).


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Hello,

FWIW, the Jornada 728 is still listed on HP's
website as current.  It's been upgraded to
64mb and the color scheme has been
updated.  I'd think they'd continue the
clamshell line as "Jornada."  I wish they'd
update the processor to a 400mHz and give it
128mb or 256mb.  With its battery setup it's a
real long distance rinner for the Win CE world.

I owned a 720 for a while and really liked it.  I
found that it's more compact than my iPAQ
3850 by the time I add a keyboard and
modem to the package.

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<<Today, I was at CompUSA looking for the new HPs. There were new iPAQs
but I couldn't see any Jornadas. When I asked about the Jornadas, they
told me that they have been discontinued. According to CompUSA guys, HP
will only continue with the iPAQs. Is this true? After they killed the
200LX, did they kill Jornadas too?>>

My sources tell me, yes, HP is going to kill BOTH the 560 series and the
728!!! That leaves no consumer pocketable clamshell Windows CE devices.
My favorite CE devices (and we see them all) are the 560 and 728 and the
small half VGA screen, touch-typable NEC 790 clamshell.  Just like the
HP 200LX, there are HP customers screaming loud about the imminent death
of the 728.

My understanding is that we will see more keyboard solutions for the
iPAQ Pocket PC series.


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Just a few comments, living in both the HP 200LX and Pocket PC world.

1. www.PocketDOS.com emulator is pretty good -- can only invoke one
instance.

2. If you can live without the keyboard, 200LX DB, Hpsolve, AA
replaceable batteries, simplicity (that is, just copy files) and speed
of installing applications, then Pocket PC has lots to offer.  Lots of
software and expandability options. Great syncing. Pretty decent set of
built-in apps (although the individual apps such as 1-2-3, HP
calculator, and DB 200LX are stronger).  For me I miss all of the above
especially the keyboard, but I do enjoy my Pocket PC, especially the
Sync capability and games.

Hal Goldstein
Exec Editor/Publisher
Pocket PC magazine
http://www.PocketPCmag.com
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At 1/3/03-01:27 AM, Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM> wrote:
>On Thu,  2 Jan 2003 14:10:43 -0600, Hal Goldstein wrote:
>
> > <<US English, UK English, French, Spanish, and German, Also there was a
> > Korean and I am thinking there was a Nordic version. I personally do not
> > know of Italian but that does not mean there wasn't one. Also, my memory
> > is rather hazy on the Nordic version (there would have to be several or
> > somehow they managed to meld them into one...) Also, wasn't there a
> > Portuguese version for (mostly) the Brazilian market?>>
> >
> > There was Portuguese and pretty sure Swedish.
>
>By norwegian/swedish you mean the keyboard overlay or a different rom?

I think the different versions had AT LEAST a different keyboard and its
overlay, but it also means differences in the ROM.

>I have both a norwegian bought machine and a Us version and the only
>thing I can find that is different is the keyboard overlay which lacks
>the norwegian characters on the US one.
>
>What am I missing?

Hmmm... Just a guess: Maybe your Norwegian machine had its guts replaced by
a US-ROM guts? I vaguely recall that when I discussed development projects
with HP/Singapore (i.e. include our software in the ROM) there was a
discussion also of a Scandinavian version and it meant translating the
program's interfaces to national languages such as Swedish (or Danish?
Norwegian?), Portuguese and so on. I regret that I do not have clearer
memories from that time. It was at once VERY exciting, but very frustrating
to work with Singapore then. This goes back to 1997 or so.

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Hal Goldstein wrote:
> Great syncing.

Possibly. But don't all those only sync with those applications I'd not
touch with a bargepole? Aren't all permutations of outlook the biggest
barndoor ever for virus entry?

So I'll stick with one-way syncing, i.e. the databese is maintained on
my emulated Atari only and copies carried around, while the appopintment
book and passwords database go the other way. Not the same as full
bidrectional syncing by any means, but great and unsurpassed programs
all round.

To refer back to the subject: I'm not going to replace my 700 any time
soon.

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> Sigh.  It just depresses me to think of what was and what is...
> Sort of like Camelot.  But I consider myself fortunate to have
> worked there in the last of the "good years", to have experienced
> some of the great projects and people that I did, and have gotten
> out when I did. :-)))

I can identify with that feeling.   I went to work for a small (not
to me, but they thought they were small) mutual fund holding
company nearly 2 decades ago.  Upper management knew nothing about
technology except that they needed it.  So we got a pretty free
hand.

It was a company that worked pretty hard to encourage loyalty and
teamwork and that's what we got.  It was fun.  It was certainly the
most creative time of my life.  And that was probably true for the
others as well.

But we ran into the same problem you did at HP.  What we did
worked.  It made them big.  When I retired they had over 200
billion under management and were doing transactions counted in
billions daily.  They had to stop giving us casual dress Fridays
every time our money under management went up another billion
because there weren't enough Fridays. We grew from 65 people when I
started to several thousand employees.

When the phones went down in New York a lot of years ago we had 1
hour to complete a transaction involving 800 million dollars and
the modem had to be used to get it in time or we had to decline.
So they called me and I did a lot of stuff not even knowing what I
did half the time, but I got through and we made the transaction.
The next morning the company's chairman and president were at my
desk thanking me.

Then they got paranoid.  Someone in auditing made a procedural
error and it wasn't caught for 2 years and by then it had cost the
company several million dollars.  This wasn't computer error but
the procedures she set up had been automated.  They started looking
for ways we could screw up and cost money.  And for ways to be sure
we don't.  It could have been billions instead of millions.

The month before I left, things had changed so much that someone
saw a problem that was just about to cost the company a few hundred
thousand dollars and he had just a few minutes to fix it so he
jumped in and did.  And it worked.  And he got fired for altering
the system without the maintenance committee's approval.  That's
how much it changed.

But it changed because we got big.  Because the old way of
everybody being encouraged to think for themselves was just too
dangerous.  The system had gotten too big and too complex and there
were too many billions of dollars of other people's money at stake.

I wonder if something parallel to that happened at HP.  I wonder if
the problem was that things just got too big to be handled
rationally.

Anyway I have the same Camelot feeling you have, I think.  I worked
with amazingly creative people with very high standards and the
courage to back those standards up.  And the smarts to know when to
modify them.  It was a good place to be.  We did good stuff.

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> Maybe I should take a new picture with the new backlight, but I
don't
> have a machine upgraded with that one yet, which can be used as a
model
> for a nice photo. ;-) As soon as I have such a machine, I will
take a
> new picture, which hopefully will represent the real contrast
> conditions more precisely.

Thanks.  When you do could you let us know?

This is an upgrade I'm pretty excited about.

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at first i wish to say: CONGRATULATIONS!!! finally a backlight upgrade!!!
good work Daniel (and the others!!)... Hooray :D What a good way to start
the new year :)

2nd: Happy New Year to all of you!

3rd: Yes I'm back from vacation and I enjoyed them very well, thank you ;)

4th: (read on)

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Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: Backlight news


> Hi Oliver
>
> 14h54m ago Oliver W. Leibenguth wrote:
>
> > is there a way to put a backlight in a (my) 700LX?
> > Why not?
>
> Not at the moment.
> Does anyone know if the 700LX screen module is identical to the
> 100/200LX screen?
> If it is, you can buy the backlight kit and install it by yourself, if
> the screen is identical, this should work. Although I don't have any idea

I don't know but i surely want to try *once I get that ^#%$ screen
disassembled*
If anyone can give me hints on that for it's lying here for a few weeks now
and still i did not succeed :(
Whenever I get it apart i'm willing to take as much pictures of it as the
backlite guru's want if that may help
I also want to try to install it if there is someone who can (when needed)
provide me with a replacement screen for not too much (this being the case
if it's a different screen that the 200lx's screen, if it's the same all
risk is for me of course)
But as I know, the display is the same as the 200lx's.


> if the software control would work on the 700LX.
> Maybe the GPIO26 line (CPU pin 48 on the 100/200LX) is used for another
> purpose on the 700LX, this is likely, because the 700LX has some
> additional I/O functions. But I don't know.
>

maybe it's used for switching on the 2nd pcmcia slot but I honestly don't
know
if it is it might be a very interesting thing to explore but i'm not so good
at electronics...
I however won't care for a software switch, a hardware-switch will suit me
just fine.

> Upgrading service will probably never be available for the 700LX, since
> the technicians would have to learn how to upgrade a 700LX. Well, if
> anyone is willing to spend his 700LX for testing, I can ask the
> technicians if they want to try it. But I cannot guarantee that the
> 700LX will survive that.
>

if you have another one (or a 200lx) spare for me, it's okay to me :P
I certainly don't want to live without one hehe


> When I once tried to take apart my 700LX, I had problems getting to the
> screen, so I left it untouched. ;-) I won't try it once more.

that's bad news for I am - trying to - take it apart to FIX display
problems... :/


Greetz,

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Gijs how are you going with this?
I'd really love to know for I have the same problem and have not (yet) fi=
xed
it, nor do I have any clue...

Probbably I missed a message, if so I'm sorry...I got about 300 new messa=
ges
when I returned

Greetz,


Niels



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gijs Leegwater" <g_leegwater@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: Brown LCD cable


Hi,

I've already tried to ours to repair my lx... and then i suddenly thought=
:
hey gijs, what are you doing, you have a multimeter, go measure some thin=
gs!

So i measured the ohm values between the contacts on sides of the orange
ribbon cable, and i discovered that the contact, that is the contact left=
 to
the most right contact on the motherboard side wasn't connected to the
contact under the highest contact of the display contacts. I think it sho=
uld
be connected because there is an orange line between those contacts. So,
maybe i can put a wire between those contacts...

But... when i look at the screen, am I right when i see that only six
contacts are used (including the one that doesnt work)?? That would mean =
i
can use another orange line on the cable, that would be an easy solution =
(i
think). So could someone please answer this question:

---=BFDoes the screen only uses 6 of the 15 contacts that are on the oran=
ge
ribbon cable?---

I would be very happy if someone can answer this...

Bye,

Gijs


> Hi,
>
> My display has a problem and i think the problem is the brown LCD cable.
> Does someone has one of these lying around? I live in Amsterdam (maybe
there
> is someone Dutch having one?). I hope someone can help me...
>
> Bye,
>
> Gijs
>

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Hal,

To your knowledge, is anyone upgrading the
memory on the 720?

Thanks,

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>From: Everett Kaser <everett@KASER.COM>
>AGO> Today, I was at CompUSA looking for the new HPs. There were new iPAQs
>but I
>AGO> couldn't see any Jornadas. When I asked about the Jornadas, they told
>me
>AGO> that they have been discontinued. According to CompUSA guys, HP will
>AGO> only continue with the iPAQs. Is this true? After they killed the
>200LX, did
>AGO> they kill Jornadas too?
Yes. The Jornada line is dead.   HPaq will continue with
the Ipaq line.    Good decision though, the Ipaq is the
better device.

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>From: Hal Goldstein <Hal@THADDEUS.COM>
>My sources tell me, yes, HP is going to kill BOTH the 560 series and the
>728!!! That leaves no consumer pocketable clamshell Windows CE devices.
>My favorite CE devices (and we see them all) are the 560 and 728 and the
>small half VGA screen, touch-typable NEC 790 clamshell.  Just like the
>HP 200LX, there are HP customers screaming loud about the imminent death
>of the 728.
>
>My understanding is that we will see more keyboard solutions for the
>iPAQ Pocket PC series.
IMHO the handheld platform was killed by Microsoft rather than
HP.

I wanted to get a new hp728, havaen't because Money 2003 will not
run on it.   I have money on an old HP680 but can't upgade the
device.

Also I can't run Microsoft Reader or Adobe Acrobat.

If the handhed platfor were viable Microsoft would still be
supporting it.

Another reason why I still stick with my trusty old hp200lx.

I can still use my trusty Pocket Quicken which is built into
the unit (the 200lx).   (Won't download fromn the desktop but then
the downloads from Desktop Quicken died out many years ago.)



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On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:

> It is possible if the files are in one directory and match a file
> pattern so I can work with wildcards. But is it possible to do it with
> a list of files without connecting the fileserver for each file again?
> My command now is:
> wget -N -i getfprot.txt
>
> and the input file contains:
> ftp://ftp.f-prot.com/pub/*def*.zip
> ftp://ftp.f-prot.com/pub/dos/f-prot.zip
>
> Wget has to login once for each command line, and it takes much time to
> login, more than to compare the files.
> Maybe it is possible to do it more efficiently?

I was afraid of that. Ok, how about this:

wget -N -r -nd -A "*def*.zip,fp-3*.zip" ftp://ftp.f-prot.com/pub/

where
-N is newer files only
-r is recursive
-nd is don't create directory structure, save to current dir
-A is only accept files that match the following patterns

*def*.zip and fp-3*.zip

Note: f-prot.zip is a symlink (currently to fp-312c.zip) and
wget doesn't seem to like that. If you use the pattern fp-3*.zip
it will work until they change major version numbers.

And that is all one line in case it wrapped.

I tried it and it worked for me.

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<<To your knowledge, is anyone upgrading the=20
memory on the 720?>>

Don't know. I am checking with PPCTECHS (Mack and Leonard)

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Hal Goldstein wrote:
> Great syncing.

<<Possibly. But don't all those only sync with those applications I'd
not touch with a bargepole? Aren't all permutations of outlook the
biggest barndoor ever for virus entry?>>

Yes, great syncing with Outlook and Office Pocket apps and a number of
third party apps designed for Syncing. Also Puma has other Sync
solutions for commercial products such as Lotus.

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Hello friends,

I have created an empty NDB file (calling it Health) as per page 8-6 of the
User's guide. This is to take all of Dr. Nat's notes from her Health D'base
and keep her GDB's separate. I cannot get it to load the notes which I have
parked in a directory called Nathlth on A. First I tried putting them in
C:\_dat\health. When this didn't work, I tried the merge option, highlighted
the directory in A where they all were and clicked OK, but this elicited
"File not found"

Richard

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Date:         Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:14:19 -0700
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On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> Found this on usenet.
>
> How was it with the Tomerider files. Could they be read in any way on
> the Hplx?
>
> I would not mind having the IMDB on my flashcard.

If I recall, some Tomeraider files can be converted to text, or
csv files, but probably not these.

I too would like IMDB on my LX and I've been working on it. I'm
running a local copy of the IMDB on one of my systems so I can
experiment with exporting to the LX. I'm trying to decide what
would be the best format. LX database format would be nice, but
then it's limited to about 4k records. A large text file would
be easiest to create, but more difficult to view and search.
I've also thought about creating a Norton Guide file. Searching
wouldn't be practical, but with it's linking it might not be too
bad finding information.

I had thought about this only for personal use. To distribute
anthing I would have to get permission from IMDB.

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<<IMHO the handheld platform was killed by Microsoft rather than HP.>>

I pretty much agree -- although HP could continue to sell the 728 -- and
would have if they hadn't merged with Compaq. (After all they just
updated it from the 720 right before the merger).

I have had a number of long and fruitless conversations with Microsoft
folks. According to "their research" folks in masse won't buy clamshell
devices. To me the NEC 790 (1/2 VGA, smallest possible form factor with
touch-typable keyboard--but not pocketable) is an ideal machine for
mobile professionals and for novices. Instant on, long battery life,
light-weight, small form factor make it great for those who just need
basic email, web surfing, Word, Excel, and PIM capabilities. You can
actually use it on a cramped coach seat on a plane. Make it pocketable
(but bulky) and you have the HP 728. Microsoft just tells me it is too
difficult to educate the marketplace on the difference between a CE and
XP machine. They have pretty much killed development on handheld
(keyboard) devices except for rugged zed solutions.

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A. S. Tepper wrote:
> I'm trying to decide if I want to send the unit in
> for repair, or buy a new machine.

Do both.

Seriously, if the LX is as useful for you as mine is to me then
you should have a working unit AND a backup.

I have 2 backups, I'm extra paranoid.  :-)

Cheers... Russ

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Same here, I have two backup lx's just sitting in a box waiting to be used
(Bought from Thaddeus).  My current one is starting to get the screen lines
missing problem and I will probably change out this weekend.  Then into
Thaddeus for repairs....

I too look forward to the backlight option :)

Kevin

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A. S. Tepper wrote:
> I'm trying to decide if I want to send the unit in
> for repair, or buy a new machine.

Do both.

Seriously, if the LX is as useful for you as mine is to me then
you should have a working unit AND a backup.

I have 2 backups, I'm extra paranoid.  :-)

Cheers... Russ

DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/

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On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Hal Goldstein wrote:

> To me the NEC 790 (1/2 VGA, smallest possible form factor with
> touch-typable keyboard--but not pocketable)

I find it quite easy to touch-type on the 200LX and the Jornada
680/720/728... but perhaps you mean that the NEC 790 has the smallest
possible keyboard people can touch-type on without having to go through
any learning or adjustment, as is required with the 200LX/680/720/728.

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On Fri,  3 Jan 2003 16:15:28 -0600, Hal Goldstein wrote:

> I have had a number of long and fruitless conversations with Microsoft
> folks. According to "their research" folks in masse won't buy clamshell
> devices.

Well I live in a town where I have once or twice seen anybody use a
pda.. I have a "youngster" at work that keep telling me that I use the
Hplx just to show off.. How wrong he is..e. No point in telling them
this though.. :-)

Well I have a couple of friends and also my brother that uses Palm's.
But none of them are "powerusers" as we are.:-)

They use it to sync with their desktop for appointments then phonebook
and reading news on it. That's about it.

There are a lot of things with my Hp200Lx I like, but one of them is
that I can use it to write this while sitting in my best chair having a
beer instead of infront of my desktop computer.. In my opinion a pda
_has_ to have a keyboard.

The Psion 5Mx was interesting.. I bought my dad one and he is now
hooked and can not be without it. If I ran out of Hplx's I could have
gone to the Psion I think, but then it went away..

Then I had a look at a friend of mine's Hp720. Big and clumsy and
"fancy", but maybe just maybe and now that one is also gone..

Well I have to just hunt for some more backup Hplx's I think.. They are
"good" until 2099 when the appointmentbook "dies" :-) (but I do not
think that I have some many appointments then anyway :-)

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway

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On Fri,  3 Jan 2003 23:29:23 +0000 (GMT), Russel Brooks wrote:

> A. S. Tepper wrote:
> > I'm trying to decide if I want to send the unit in
> > for repair, or buy a new machine.
>
> Do both.
>
> Seriously, if the LX is as useful for you as mine is to me then
> you should have a working unit AND a backup.
>
> I have 2 backups, I'm extra paranoid.  :-)

The guys (and girls) that hang out in this old bar(Hplx-l) has at least
one backup and those as paranoid as Russ and I have two.. (I know we
are not alone :-)

Regards

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Richard commented..
 >Words fail me, but all I can say is that if any of you are
 >even remotely interested in the many areas covered, you must try ..

thanks for the words of encouragement.

for 'power' users there is off course the range of Encarta etc Encyclopedias
(which won't fit on any handhelds i know of), though my main aim was (apart
from adding to the collective knowledge of our species) to have information
handy which is not readily available (ie politically incorrect) and be able
to add to it (not possible with Encarta)

 >I really loved the Astronomy db.

with only 64 items i can't call it 'comprehensive'  :) .. a good source is
Benny Peiser`s CCnet group (to subscribe please contact Benny
<b.j.peiser@livjm.ac.uk>)

i am in the process of updating most DBs and adding new ones. FRANCE.ZIP
will be one of them, including a 2-way dictionary and travel tips you won't
find in any guidebook (not even www.lonelyplanet.com.au).

 >Fantastic work, Nathalie, congratulations and many thanks.

some play games, some write games, and i collect games  :) .. as the Chinese
say "+% the game of life is to know it's purpose %+"

 >Happy New Year to all,

and stay healthy
Dr.Nat ;)

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On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Michael Kopplin wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Martin Bergvill wrote:
> >
> > I would not mind having the IMDB on my flashcard.
>
> I too would like IMDB on my LX and I've been working on it. I'm

Forgot to mention, there is an html version of IMDB at
http://www.magma.ca/~sheppard/IMDb/HTML.html

It's a limited version. It doesn't have all the information
available for each film, and it only covers the last 24 months,
but it does work with HV and only takes about 4MB.

Mike

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Date:         Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:33:26 +0100
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> [GPRS]
> Magic=0
> Port=-1
> OmniGo=0
> PPP=1
> Modem=1
> Baud=38400
> My_IP=0.0.0.0
> DNS_IP=212.023.097.002
> DNS2_IP=212.023.097.003
> Script=CHAP_Script
> Login=gprs
> Password=ty&)
> ;ModemInit=AT+cgdcont=3,"IP","internet.eplus.de"
> ModemInit=ATZ
> Dial=ATD*99***1#
> ;Dial=*99***3#
> ;Dial=*98*2#
> ;Dial=*99*0*1*1#
> ;Dial=+cgdcont=3*99#
>
> The commented out dialstrings are some variations which I found on the
> web, but I have tried all of them, and only the active one works for
> me.
> *99 usually tells the phone to start its PPP server and go into GPRS
> mode, I don't know the exact meaning of the following charactes, but at
> least one digit must be there which describes the number of the GPRS
> setup in your phone to use. This will usually be "1", but maybe you
> have to modify that number.

*99***1# is in most cases o.k.

> And for me, the simple ModemInit=ATZ works. I think this is because I
> have set up all the other values properly in my phone, so I don't need
> to give the access node address etc. in the init string.

I agree. I think it is best to have defined all GPRS related items in
the phone. By far the most important item is the APN name (something
like a hostname). This is given by the network operator. Then you can
also forget all this at+cgdcont=... strings.

> Ah, and "login" and "password" does NOT depend on your ISP, but on your
> PHONE!

No! "login" and "password" are required by the network operator's
infrastructure (could be the APN server, I believe). In many cases they
can be left empty.

> This is because WWW/LX connects via PPP to your phone (which
> acts like an ISP in GPRS mode)

In my opinion the APN server is the ISP, the phone is the modem. HPLX
and phone talk PPP to each other, therefore WWW/LX says "connected" as
soon as the connection between th HPLX and the phone is estalished.
Later on the authentification between the HPLX (or the phone) and the
APN Serer is taking place.

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Date:         Sun, 5 Jan 2003 00:44:03 +1300
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3 days 20h47m ago Dzon wrote:

> Thanks for reply. I have tried this software, but I couldn't make it work
> :-( The problem was not the connection, because normal internet connection
> works [it dials]. But when I try to exchange SMSs, it stops with
> Connecting to phone. Hanging up. The sequence:
> send AT\r
> wait 5 OK
> in pdu.scr [about line 100] timeouts and I cannot figure out why :(
>
> Btw I own DS LX, Siemens MT50 and cable :)
> I have www3, postlx, robot, postpdu installed.

I don't think you have the latest postpdu from August or so
last year. Please get it from the site below. From the history
in postpsu.doc:

----
28-JUNE-2002
initial wait for OK extended to 10 - needed for cable use with
6210 for example. Thanks to Hans Jacob!
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-Tony
 http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/th/ for:
 POSTPDU ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB GOPRICES CLOCKS POSTH PTHREAD

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Date:         Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:54:29 -0000
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I have a problem....

Lotus 123 Reports "Range already exists" on my HP200LX.
This is after it has been opened and saved in Excel as *.wk1.

I have not seen this problem before, has any one had it and resolved it?
I believe it worked before (but can't be sure of that).

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I get occasional humor mailings from a friend online. Never before
have I seen one more appropriate for this list, or for current
threads of conversation:

>WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HP CEO GOES TO HEAVEN?
>
>HP CEO Carly Fiorina dies, and she goes through the usual process of
>defending her case in front of the Divine Jury. It is not clear what
>happens exactly and where things go wrong, but when the jury comes
>back and the sentence is read it turns out she is admitted into
>Heaven.
>
>So Carly is filling in the usual paperwork at the HAO's desk (Heaven
>Admission Officer): non-disclosure agreement, legal disclaimers,
>non-competition clause etc.. [in the French version there's no
>paperwork but she has to wait for the people to come back from their
>2-hour lunch].
>
>"Congratulations and welcome to Heaven.", finally says the angel.
>
>"Go down the corridor, first door on your right."
>
>Carly walks to the door, pushes it open ... and staggers back.
>
>Through the flames and behind the door, all you can see are
>countless devils inflicting the most horrible tortures to screaming
>souls. She rushes back to the Officer and waves her admission pass,
>breathless.
>
>"Must be an error, this thing here says Heaven!"
>
>"Oh yeah, says the angel, barely looking up from his/her screen.
>Forgot to tell you ... we merged."

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This is fun. First Everett emails me out of the blue and now Christopher
Koh. Apparently, some HP Singapore member forwarded my comments about
Christopher to him. (Gotta be careful what you say<g>). Chris is the
link between Corvallis and Singapore and knows as much as anyone about
the history of the 200LX once it moved and about the origin of the
700LX. I encouraged Chris to join this list as did Everett. Hopefully,
he will join and will be willing to fill us in on some more oral
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              one .. and later
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excellent write up of real world situation .. how heroes become
normal humans .. and excellent becomes unmanageable and so
un-sustainable too .. definitely non-replicateable !

there is a very important lesson here .. if this can be
understood and managed properly .. what we will have is a key ..
to something that we aren't able to EXACTLY put our finger on !
.. knowing fully well that something is BADLY wrong !

do we need a very high level psychologist ?

..pk

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Everett Kaser" <everett@KASER.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 9:55 AM

<snipped>

> But it changed because we got big.  Because the old way of
> everybody being encouraged to think for themselves was just too
> dangerous.  The system had gotten too big and too complex and
there
> were too many billions of dollars of other people's money at
stake.

<snipped>

> ......  It was a good place to be.  We did good stuff.
>
> Barry

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Martin wrote...
>> <<US English, UK English, French, Spanish, and German, Also there was a
>> Korean and I am thinking there was a Nordic version. I personally do not
>> know of Italian but that does not mean there wasn't one. Also, my memory

MB> By norwegian/swedish you mean the keyboard overlay or a different rom?

MB> I have both a norwegian bought machine and a Us version and the only
MB> thing I can find that is different is the keyboard overlay which lacks
MB> the norwegian characters on the US one.

The number FOUR sticks in my mind, in terms of ROMs.  Probably
English, French, Spanish, and German.  However, I believe that
you and Hal are correct that there were also a number of different
keyboard overlays, creating "sort of" different localizations.
Also, I don't know what Singapore might have done, once they took
over things, in terms of localizations, so that might be the source
of some of the confusion.

Everett

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Everett Kaser wrote:
>
> Martin wrote...
> >> <<US English, UK English, French, Spanish, and German, Also there was a
> >> Korean and I am thinking there was a Nordic version. I personally do not
> >> know of Italian but that does not mean there wasn't one. Also, my memory
>
> MB> By norwegian/swedish you mean the keyboard overlay or a different rom?
>
> MB> I have both a norwegian bought machine and a Us version and the only
> MB> thing I can find that is different is the keyboard overlay which lacks
> MB> the norwegian characters on the US one.
>
> The number FOUR sticks in my mind, in terms of ROMs.  Probably
> English, French, Spanish, and German.  However, I believe that
> you and Hal are correct that there were also a number of different
> keyboard overlays, creating "sort of" different localizations.
> Also, I don't know what Singapore might have done, once they took
> over things, in terms of localizations, so that might be the source
> of some of the confusion.
>
> Everett
>
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I have an HP200LX from Korea, marked Samsung on the cover and with
Korean characters on the overlay. I don't know how to switch it to
display the Korean characters, though. This was originally a 1+1 meg
that was upgraded to DS 8meg.

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|
| I have an HP200LX from Korea, marked Samsung on the cover and
with
| Korean characters on the overlay. I don't know how to switch
it to
| display the Korean characters, though. This was originally a
1+1 meg
| that was upgraded to DS 8meg.

I have a one meg like that, and was told by the original owner
the korean characters were obtained with a software addition...

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Domingo wrote...
D> Compaq was the struggling company, not HP, right?
I've been out of HP for 5-6 years now, but for what it's worth:

HP used to be a power-house in the instrumentation business (that's
where the company started, and before the 1970's was it's almost
sole focus).  Starting in the late 1960's or early 1970's, HP started
producing computation devices. That segment of their business grew
until it was greater than the instrumentation business, and the
instrumentation business, while still making a perfectly respectable
profit (making oscilloscopes, multimeters, stethescopes,
spectrum analyzers, etc) wasn't GROWING fast enough, wasn't making
ENOUGH profit for the "powers that be", and was "spun off" (ie, HP
divided itself) and the instrumentation business became it's own
business (can't remember the name right now... Advent?  something
like that), so that HP could concentrate on their (now) "core"
business of computers and printers and ink.  ....back up a bit...
In the mid-80's, after the IBM PC became a hit, and HP was still
building "proprietary" computers, they decided they'd best get
into the PC-compatible business....except they could never make
them compatible.  They always had to make them "better" (ie,
different) in some way.  So, they were never too successful (for
some reason, they couldn't figure out that if they REALLY wanted
to be a BIG success in the PC-compatible business, they had to BE
compatible... not 95%, but 100.0000000% compatible.  So, they
always struggled.  This applies to the Portable and Portable-Plus,
too, that were created at Corvallis.  Close, but no cigar.  GREAT
little machines, but if they'd been 100% compatible instead of
just 95%, they would have had a much better chance in the market.
(I still remember vividly the day in the mid-80's when this group
manager, some fellow of Indian nationality, whom I can thankfully
no-longer remember his name, came to Corvallis from the Bay-area
to have meetings and gave a "public" talk to the local engineers
and other professionals, talking about the then-new HP-150 desktop
PC computer (that was 95% compatible, but MUCH better!), and how
HP was currently something like #5 in the PC market, but how he
thought that we had a chance, through hard work and smart marketing,
to grow our market-share to make us #2.... and then in a voice of
sharing a BIG secret.... said that he even would wake up at night
sometimes, dreaming that we were #1!!!! Gag.)

Anyway, come the early/mid 90's, and it's time for HP to figure that
they need to become BIG in the notebook business.  Exit Corvallis
calculators and palmtops, enter notebooks.  I didn't work on the
first "standard, PC-compatible" notebook done at Corvallis, as it
was done by a VERY small group who really were just "managers" who
dealt with the company in Taiwan who actually designed and built
the thing, and that was while we were still working on the 200LX.
But I did work on the second model (along with everyone else who
used to be working on calculators and palmtops), and on the third
model.  I left HP just as work was starting on the next models.
The quality of those notebooks were improving steadily (they had
nowhere to go but up, the early models were pretty terrible, we
always referred to them internally as the "Soviet designs"... big,
square, black, ugly).  Well, in the past 5-6 years, HP changed
OEM company (the company that helps design and builds the units
for them), and has steadily improved the quality of the machines,
but they still just weren't capturing the market the way they
felt they COULD, in either the notebook OR the desktop markets.

So, Carly (the CEO of HP) got this brilliant idea (the same thing
HP has done in some other markets for years, like medical equipment,
disk storage, etc)... if you can't design/market your way into a
market-leadership role, then buy the competition.  Except in this
case, Compaq was too big to outright buy, so it had to be configured
as a "merger."  Fortunately for HP, Compaq was "on the ropes", even
though they had a leading position in the market.

Well... I'm not quite sure where I was going with this.  But, yes,
Compaq was struggling, but so was HP.  HP has, for quite some years,
been supported almost solely by the printer business, and to a VERY
large degree by the inkjet printhead business (another Corvallis
invention, by the way!)  They make an OBSCENE profit on the inkjet
print cartridges, and it's that that has kept the company profitable
for quite a few years.  So, in a sense, HP was (and still is)
struggling too.  Any time your profitability depends on a single
product to THAT degree (and especially when you're a LARGE, lumbering
company), that company is dancing on the hairy edge of a precipice.
Sometimes they pull back and become a strong company again (like
happened with IBM a few years back), but often they just drift right
on off over the edge.

Needless to say, all of the above is MY opinion, and is my view of
things, and doesn't necessarily reflect reality in any way.  What is
reality?  Truth is a very slippery thing, and is different for
everyone.  If you find a product you like and admire, great.  Watch
other similar products from the same company, they may be great, too.
BUT...no company bats a thousand, and always remember: they're in
BUSINESS, they're trying to make as much money as they can.  They're
not your friend, or your partner, or anything else exept a salesman.
They're out to make a buck, and can't be trusted 100% at any time.
"Buyer beware!" Now, that's a very pessimistic outlook on things,
but I'm trying to balance your understanding (since so many great
things have been said over the years about HP). I worked with a LOT
of VERY talented and dedicated people at HP, and there are still a
lot of those kinds of people there.  BUT... they tend to be "in the
trenches", doing their best to create great products, but when the
general says, "OK, troops, here's what we're going to do: all of you
guys over there are going to march over here, and all of you guys
over here are going to trot on down there, and no, never mind about
those machine gun nests, we've got ya covered....", there's not much
the troops in the trenches can do ...except run for cover.  A large
corporation is nothing more than a large aggolomeration of individuals,
all striving to achieve a self-contradictory set of goals (quality,
innovation, inexpensive, profitable (short-term and long-term), etc).
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. I've totally lost direction
on this one, so I'd best cut and run before I start babbling... worse.

Everett

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At 1/4/03-11:09 AM, Everett Kaser <everett@kaser.com> wrote:

>spectrum analyzers, etc) wasn't GROWING fast enough, wasn't making
>ENOUGH profit for the "powers that be", and was "spun off" (ie, HP
>divided itself) and the instrumentation business became it's own
>business (can't remember the name right now... Advent?  something
>like that),

Agilent Technologies

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There's an old version of that joke about Microsoft.
Bill Gates encounters the fire and brimstone, so he
goes back to the desk, and asks "What about all the
clouds and angels and harps I was promised?"  The
receptionist says, "Oh, that was just the beta."

--- Jim Saklad <jimdoc@INAME.COM> wrote:
> I get occasional humor mailings from a friend
> online. Never before
> have I seen one more appropriate for this list, or
> for current
> threads of conversation:
>
> >WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HP CEO GOES TO HEAVEN?
> >
> >HP CEO Carly Fiorina dies, and she goes through the
> usual process of
> >defending her case in front of the Divine Jury. It
> is not clear what
> >happens exactly and where things go wrong, but when
> the jury comes
> >back and the sentence is read it turns out she is
> admitted into
> >Heaven.
> >
> >So Carly is filling in the usual paperwork at the
> HAO's desk (Heaven
> >Admission Officer): non-disclosure agreement, legal
> disclaimers,
> >non-competition clause etc.. [in the French version
> there's no
> >paperwork but she has to wait for the people to
> come back from their
> >2-hour lunch].
> >
> >"Congratulations and welcome to Heaven.", finally
> says the angel.
> >
> >"Go down the corridor, first door on your right."
> >
> >Carly walks to the door, pushes it open ... and
> staggers back.
> >
> >Through the flames and behind the door, all you can
> see are
> >countless devils inflicting the most horrible
> tortures to screaming
> >souls. She rushes back to the Officer and waves her
> admission pass,
> >breathless.
> >
> >"Must be an error, this thing here says Heaven!"
> >
> >"Oh yeah, says the angel, barely looking up from
> his/her screen.
> >Forgot to tell you ... we merged."
>
> --
>
>
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Hi,

My first internet provider was DDS, it was a 28k8 dial-up provider, and I
could only go to .nl sites and a few .com sites like geocities and
angelfire. My POP e-mail was glp@dds.nl (I believe it was a 2 MB mailbox)

My second one was HCCNet, it was a 48K dial-up provider, it gave me complete
acces to the web. My POP e-mail was g.leegwater@hccnet.nl (10 MB mailbox)

Then i got cable: Chello. The e-mail adress assigned was
a.h.verheus@chello.nl (my mother's name, so not a perfect address for me).
Also somehow the login didn't work, and it still doesn't... So i used the
chello SMTP for sending(didn't require login) and the hccnet mail for
receiving(it didn't allow sending without dialing up).

Suddenly HCCnet stopped working.. I couldn't login anymore... It seemed I
had to choose for... Hotmail. That time I was a real Microsoft-hater(because
i hated slow windows, but i DID love MS-DOS), so I didn't really like it.
2MB, web-based, slow.... Hotmail-offline seemed to be the solution. But
still, many MSN announcements, some errors, still a bit slow, still only
2MB...

But today, everything has become different. I tried logging in to HCCNet
again, and it worked!!! The only problem was i had 515 new e-mails, most of
them were spam. And for some strange reason, Outlook Express couldn't
download the 512th mail. And when you press send+receive again after a
error, dumb Outlook starts downloading ALL mail again... and again it
stopped at that 512th..
So, I looked on the internet for a solution. I looked for some telnet
commands, because i thought with telnet there is maybe some way to delete
everything wihtout downloading, or something. So i looked, and i saw quite
fast that is was possible to delete messsages with the DELE command. I
deleted some messages, including the critical one, and Outlook Express
downloaded all without problems, so i could delete them all, and start with
a fresh new mailbox!

(i know this is maybe a bit strange too-enthousiast uninteresting story but
today i'm feeling abit strange, so...)

So i think I'm gonna use HCCNet again. At the beginning of this mail i
thought I'm just gonna write: New e-mail: g.leegwater@hccnet.nl . Now I've
told you some weird history of my email use, and while writing this mail i
suddenly thought: why don't use my dot.tk e-mail address?? It's only
forwarding but it's quite cool. So... My new e-mail address is:

cheiz@cheiz.tk

(btw there is not really a site yet on cheiz.tk, only some files)

Bye,

Gijs Leegwater
a.k.a.Cheiz :)

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Hi

Could anybody help this guy?

I have no experience with Stacker on a pcmciacard and how to get it to
work on a Win Me machine.

I will forward any answers to Hal.

TIA

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway

> Want to get rid of my 200LX, but wanna get
> the data first.
>
> Lost my conn. cable.
>
> My flash card doesn't work as expected on
> Windows ME (only PC card slot I have available).
>
> This is an OLD Verbatim FlashDisk (uses name
> "Sundisk" on back, 1994, before changed to
> Sandisk). It's a 5 meg card stacked to 10 meg.
>
> I tried running the SINSTALL or whatever it's
> called. I think it just hangs, can't recall.
> Doesn't work, though.
>
> Someone said I should just stick it in and
> reboot and it would work. No go.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Hal
>

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You can be sure, you are really not alone:-) In fact
I will soon get the third one. (Not really, display of one
unit is unusable due to my backlight experiments some time ago
so lets say 2,5 backups-:))

Radek




> A. S. Tepper wrote:
> > I'm trying to decide if I want to send the unit in
> > for repair, or buy a new machine.
>
> Do both.
>
> Seriously, if the LX is as useful for you as mine is to me then
> you should have a working unit AND a backup.
>
> I have 2 backups, I'm extra paranoid.  :-)

> The guys (and girls) that hang out in this old bar(Hplx-l) has at least
> one backup and those as paranoid as Russ and I have two.. (I know we
> are not alone :-)
>
> Regards
>
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Congratulations Daniel, you are a brave man.

In my opinion solution for lower contrast is missing
transreflective polarization foil which should replace
the original polarization foil.

This foil reflect ambient light and also lets the light
from EL panel to get through. So the contrast will
be as before plus you have a backlight.

As I know original backlight project has contained this
foil, so may be there should be a chance to get it.

Personally I spent many hours in efforts to get it in a limited
quntity and never succeded. At least in the US it can be ordered
if the price of order is something about 400$, don't remember exactly
(RDF-C foil produced by 3M)
Czech suppliers are not able or not willing even to supply Sipex
chips for converter in reasonable quntity:-(

BTW I am really curious to see your new backlight page, but
9600Bps dialup through GSM is really terrible and expensive:-(

Radek


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> Hi Barry
>
> 16h47m ago Barry wrote:
>
> > I'm not that excited about the picture.  It's bright but there
> > doesn't seem to be much contrast.  Daniel, is that just the
picture
> > or is that how it is?
>
> Thanks that you mention that, Barry,
> Of course, the contrast is indeed reduced. This is simply because
the
> original reflective layer of the screen is removed and replaced
by the
> electroluminescence foil, which is not as reflective as the
original
> foil.
>
> This will lower the light threshold under which the palmtop is
> usable without backlight.
> But you will have backlight, so you can simply switch it on when
> surrounding light is not sufficient, and then you can read the
screen
> again.

I meant with the light on there doesn't seem to be enough contrast.
I realize pictures can mislead in a case like this and that's
really what I'm asking about.  It seems, from the picture, that
it's bright enough but there isn't enough contrast to be
comfortable with the light on.  Is this really the way it looks?

This is the first upgrade I've been interested in.  I'll have to
save for it so I won't be one of the first, which has other
benefits, as well.  But I'd like to be sure it's something I can
really use with my old eyes.  I have no problem with a laptop
screen at all and the same is true with the Palm 3C screen.  It
doesn't have to be that good to be ok.  But it has to have good
contrast.

I'm less worried about when the light is off.  Using rechargables
and always having some ready to go, now that I'm home when I'm
using it that isn't a problem for me.

Barry

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I am on digest and usually few days or weeks late in reading
 so if I repeat someone else then sorry...

The display uses all contacts. The PC board of display
has more than two layers so normally you see only 6 connections,
the rest is inside (look against ligt you will see them)

The brown cable can be fixed, depends how serious the damage is.

You can: replace missing connection by extra wire soldered to
mainboard and display board.

or

locate exactly the place where the brown cable is damaged, with
a sharp knife remove insulating material above damaged copper
line (carrefuly - you should remove only insulation not copper itself)
solder a thin wire to both disconnected parts of copper line.
Fix everything by a good glue, because this problem usually
occurs when this brown cable is cracked.

All abowe is doable. I did it few times on olivetti quaderno
 notebooks and they work again. (knock knock)


 Radek

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gijs Leegwater" <g_leegwater@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: Brown LCD cable


Hi,

I've already tried to ours to repair my lx... and then i suddenly thought=
:
hey gijs, what are you doing, you have a multimeter, go measure some thin=
gs!

So i measured the ohm values between the contacts on sides of the orange
ribbon cable, and i discovered that the contact, that is the contact left=
 to
the most right contact on the motherboard side wasn't connected to the
contact under the highest contact of the display contacts. I think it sho=
uld
be connected because there is an orange line between those contacts. So,
maybe i can put a wire between those contacts...

But... when i look at the screen, am I right when i see that only six
contacts are used (including the one that doesnt work)?? That would mean =
i
can use another orange line on the cable, that would be an easy solution =
(i
think). So could someone please answer this question:

---=BFDoes the screen only uses 6 of the 15 contacts that are on the oran=
ge
ribbon cable?---

I would be very happy if someone can answer this...

Bye,

Gijs

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I'm already getting a new cable soon. I think that is a better solution than
a wire/glueing (i already tried the wire but the contacts are so close to
eachother so it is very difficult to do).

Bye,

Cheiz
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From: "radek svagr" <radek.svagr@EMAIL.CZ>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: Brown LCD cable

The brown cable can be fixed, depends how serious the damage is.

You can: replace missing connection by extra wire soldered to
mainboard and display board.

or

locate exactly the place where the brown cable is damaged, with
a sharp knife remove insulating material above damaged copper
line (carrefuly - you should remove only insulation not copper itself)
solder a thin wire to both disconnected parts of copper line.
Fix everything by a good glue, because this problem usually
occurs when this brown cable is cracked.

All abowe is doable. I did it few times on olivetti quaderno
 notebooks and they work again. (knock knock)


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> Ah.  I don't remember anything about Nordic, but Portuguese does
> sound sort of familiar (as well as US and UK).

Everett, stick around.  You'll learn a lot about LX palmtops here.
:)

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 5:06 PM
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> > My flash card doesn't work as expected on
> > Windows ME (only PC card slot I have available).
> >
> > This is an OLD Verbatim FlashDisk (uses name
> > "Sundisk" on back, 1994, before changed to
> > Sandisk). It's a 5 meg card stacked to 10 meg.
> >
> > I tried running the SINSTALL or whatever it's
> > called. I think it just hangs, can't recall.
> > Doesn't work, though.
> >
> > Someone said I should just stick it in and
> > reboot and it would work. No go.
> >
> > Any ideas?

Put it on a dos computer that has a PCMCIA slot.  An old dos or
win31 laptop, for example.  Then it should install ok.

In the worse case an old dos 486 or 386 laptop can be bought on
Ebay for under $40.  I use a Compaq Aero (not the handheld, the
laptop) and I decided about a year ago to get a backup just in
case.  They were so cheap I ended up getting 3 backups. :)

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Hi all, I'll keep this short as it's a non-LX issue ("FLUFF" for those who
filter!).

I'm out of smart people to talk to and this list is the FIRST place I think
of, when I think of knowledgeable folks! That's not "fluff" this is a smart
group...

Anyway, my neighbor bought a new 30GB HDD for his rather old NEC computer. I
wasn't around for all the installation, partitioning, etc. Anyway, he got
the new drive to work as a data drive and copied all of his old (6.2 GB)
"C:" drive to it. THEN tried to make the new data drive his C: drive (I
think) and he tried re-installing Windows several times. His computer will
only see 8.2 GB of this new drive as C: or D: and I'm unsure of all he's
tried to "help" himself out of his jam.

I came into the picture after all the damage had been done and helped get
his OLD, now wiped. 6.2 GB HDD, working again as his boot drive.  I can't
make the old NEC (a Pentium MMX) see the larger portions of the big HDD and
there are no BIOS updates avail. (that we can find). I finally took his 30GB
HDD home and made it a data drive on my "experimental" system (a
solid-running AMD Athelon w/ a decently modern motherboard that I use for
experiments that might "break everything"). My system "sees" the HDD w/o any
BIOS updates. Partition Magic (v 7.0) tells me that the drive is indeed
formatted as an 8.2 GB HDD and  there are about 21 GBs of "unallocated"
space.... My neighbor swears his computer allowed him to partition the 30GB
drive into three partitions and he put his data on the second partition
(which should now be in "unallocated" territory).

Is there any way to "get" any remaining data out of the "unallocated"
territory? Or, access the unallocated sectors w/o needing to format them for
use first? I don't know how he accessed the area before and can only hope he
wasn't able to wipe the data, when he was trying to change boot drives.

Most "normal" functions like FDISK or asking Partition Magic to reclaim the
unallocated territory will wipe it clean. I used to own lots of utilities
that let me peek at HDDs a sector at a time (Norton's Utilities and PC
Tools, I think, but the disks are long missing AND I have no desire to
"stitch together" data like a patchwork quilt). Are there any "easy" and
cheap/free data recovery utilities than can "peek" into the "unallocated"
areas and let me choose what to save?

I should rephrase my question: Is there a simple way to see if his data is
indeed still there AND then restore (at least temporarily, on my machine)
access to this data; so I can burn it to a CD?

His computer may never be able to access the full 30GB again (I suspect he
used the "overlay" program for older computers, that came w/ the Maxtor
drive, but I'll never know), and he's accepted that, he just wants access to
his data before he uses this 30GB drive as an 8.2 GB data drive....

TIA for any help and/or suggestions.

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              these too !
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----- Original Message -----
From: Everett Kaser <everett@KASER.COM>
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Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: HP and Compaq


<snipped>

> Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. I've totally lost
direction
> on this one, so I'd best cut and run before I start babbling...
worse.
> Everett

NOT AT ALL ! .. this kind of 'babbling' is very much smack bang
on the point .. a very different perspective .. an absolutely
'different' way of looking at the 'facts' and 'event' set of
happenings .. and in my humble, tiny, modest opinion, actually
addresses what ails good products (designing, marketing,
obsolecence) ..

ONE very very valid observation : "contradicting objectives" ..
in your write up .. very very valid .. its sooo tough to actually
have a set of unidirectional objectives .. real time .. while
doing it .. no one appears to know .. and more 'blind' men lead
other 'blind' men .. and all land into the ditch ..

i also like that 'edge of the cliff' , 'hairy edge' comment ..
and would surely like to add .. 'blindfolded' .. no one really
knows what's going on or what's gonna happen .. all cross their
fingers and all hope that they are right .. only time tells who
was 'more' right than others

this is exactly the subject that i've been stressing on .. for
study, analysis, understanding ..and if possible .. replicating !

the unexpected success, survival of lx200 is 'DATA' which needs
study,  research, understanding

till now all things point out to these :

1. the lx95, lx100 were much more tough to design than the lx200
or lx700 .. strangely lx700 is a 'complete' stand alone device
even now .. yet it was just a follow on .. some minor
modifications on the much more difficult-ly designed lx95, lx100
..and so .. a more 'complete' machine was easier to design

2. the lx200 is the more long lasting machine .. more followers
.. the lx700 is tooo bulky .. so there is that need to match the
'need' born out of 'convenience' with a scaling down .. the lx200
is a 'scaled down' model .. as compared to the lx700

3. balance .. btwn convenient portability .. and more power ..
something that one can carry in a pocket is surely preferable to
something one can only carry in hand/briefcase

4. hard look at one's needs .. the obsession to own very powerful
concords versus the sense to own only a simple car, even a
bicycle .. the obsession is just that .. an obsession .. not a
need .. so to take a very hard look at one's needs .. may result
in a severe scaling down .. of needs .. and therefore the s/w ..
and therefore the h/w

parameters change .. i often think ..

if wireless radio had been pursued .. we might have had bluetooth
in the 70s .. not 90s .. copper wires would NEVER have even
happened ..

if 2 way transmission based on tv had been pursued .. we might
have been on video phones in 60s .. not now

if optic fibre had been pursued (remember prisms and lens were
here long long before electricity) .. optic based fibres and
cables would have been there before microchips

if this .. or this .. or that .. or that ..

and

lastly,

this skewed obsession of 'making money, wealth' .. share holder
focus .. market share .. fortune 500 .. errr.. ain't we all
looking under the lampost for that dime which was lost in the
dark .. just because its so much easier to search in the lighted
area ?

think !

..pk

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Martin

This is just a guess, but does your Windows ME installation include
the Microsoft disk compression feature?  (DriveSpace)

I know that older Win9x versions used to cheerfully offer to convert
your stacked card to use DriveSpace.  A one-way trip, since your
200LX could no longer access the data.

Since you are planning a one-way trip, this is not a concern.

By the way, what are you doing with the LX?  (I need a spare)

...Gary

Martin Bergvill wrote:

> Hi
>
> Could anybody help this guy?
>
> I have no experience with Stacker on a pcmciacard and how to get it to
> work on a Win Me machine.
>
> I will forward any answers to Hal.
>
> TIA
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway
>
> > Want to get rid of my 200LX, but wanna get
> > the data first.
> >
> > Lost my conn. cable.
> >
> > My flash card doesn't work as expected on
> > Windows ME (only PC card slot I have available).
> >
> > This is an OLD Verbatim FlashDisk (uses name
> > "Sundisk" on back, 1994, before changed to
> > Sandisk). It's a 5 meg card stacked to 10 meg.
> >
> > I tried running the SINSTALL or whatever it's
> > called. I think it just hangs, can't recall.
> > Doesn't work, though.
> >
> > Someone said I should just stick it in and
> > reboot and it would work. No go.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Hal
> >
>
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Date:         Sat, 4 Jan 2003 23:19:55 -0800
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It seems that the jornadas are dead, yes.and it looks like the final death
knell for the last rpn calculator, too.

I use a mix of my 200lx (which I very much want to upgrade) and a 720....
and I admitl, I carry a 42S with 32k ram along everywhere and a 41cx about
half the time. I'm a freak.

 I'd probably use the 720 for more if I could get a rela OS on it. I have
heard of a linux rom image that existed, but it seems impossible to get
the rom image from anyone, and at least one hp engineer has struck out
trying to track down the image.


-Christof
Oi!Oi!Oi!



> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Everett Kaser" <everett@KASER.COM>
>> I don't know for sure, but I can WELL believe that to be true.  After
>> all, they killed off HP's line of notebooks in favor of Compaq's, so
>> I'd be surprised if they wouldn't do the same with the handhelds. They
>> kept a mix of the desktops, though.

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Date:         Sat, 4 Jan 2003 23:34:49 -0800
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Thing is, the clamshell devices would be *fine* if they just ran XP. The
problem with CE is and always was that it just doesn't RUN the software
you have on your desktop- even in a minimal form. (Add to that that CE was
castrated by design so that you found it nearly impossible to code for it
or compile on it.)

for those who do have 720/728 machines (and many older ones) yall should
have a look at

http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/

I'm trying to build a package system that will sort of streamline the mess
there, but his work is fantastic. All I need is a real ansi term, bash (or
ksh) and gzip and I could make a fairly well automated cygwinlike setup.

-Christof
Oi!Oi!Oi!



> <<IMHO the handheld platform was killed by Microsoft rather than HP.>>
>
> I pretty much agree -- although HP could continue to sell the 728 -- and
> would have if they hadn't merged with Compaq. (After all they just
> updated it from the 720 right before the merger).
>
> I have had a number of long and fruitless conversations with Microsoft
> folks. According to "their research" folks in masse won't buy clamshell
> devices. To me the NEC 790 (1/2 VGA, smallest possible form factor with
> touch-typable keyboard--but not pocketable) is an ideal machine for
> mobile professionals and for novices. Instant on, long battery life,
> light-weight, small form factor make it great for those who just need
> basic email, web surfing, Word, Excel, and PIM capabilities. You can
> actually use it on a cramped coach seat on a plane. Make it pocketable
> (but bulky) and you have the HP 728. Microsoft just tells me it is too
> difficult to educate the marketplace on the difference between a CE and
> XP machine. They have pretty much killed development on handheld
> (keyboard) devices except for rugged zed solutions.
>
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> Well I live in a town where I have once or twice seen anybody use a
> pda.. I have a "youngster" at work that keep telling me that I use the
> Hplx just to show off.. How wrong he is..e. No point in telling them
> this though.. :-)

I have never been able to sit down in a local cafe or restaurant, etc
without having someone exclaim and drool over my 720. No one has heard of
it, and it's quite adequate for the majority of the premed/prevet and cs
students I run into. (Of course, the $900 price tag for a brand new 728
puts them off)


> There are a lot of things with my Hp200Lx I like, but one of them is
> that I can use it to write this while sitting in my best chair having a
> beer instead of infront of my desktop computer.. In my opinion a pda
> _has_ to have a keyboard.

absolutely :)

> Then I had a look at a friend of mine's Hp720. Big and clumsy and
> "fancy", but maybe just maybe and now that one is also gone..

Not really. Granted, the chrome is a bit much, but it's really *well*
packed in there. I'd trade the smartcard for a second CF slot in a
heartbeat, though. It does have everything- modem, pcmcia (which I use for
wireless) and cf (my 256meg disk), stylus, headphone jack, serial.IR and
the voice recorder stuff, too. The battery life is amazing- I get 3.5 to 4
hours with the wireless, triple that with nothing in pcmcia....


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Date:         Sun, 5 Jan 2003 09:57:10 +0200
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Hi Mike

1 day 09h11m ago Michael Kopplin wrote:

> then it's limited to about 4k records. A large text file would
> be easiest to create, but more difficult to view and search.

What about a PE compatible database? That would be simple text (easy to
create), but nice to search and view in PE.

daniel

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Hi Radek

10h54m ago radek svagr wrote:

> In my opinion solution for lower contrast is missing
> transreflective polarization foil which should replace
> the original polarization foil.
>
> This foil reflect ambient light and also lets the light
> from EL panel to get through. So the contrast will
> be as before plus you have a backlight.
>
> As I know original backlight project has contained this
> foil, so may be there should be a chance to get it.

We decided to NOT use transflective foil to make the whole thing
feasible.

If transflective film should be used, it would mean the original
polarizing film had to be removed, which is a very tricky and risky
job, getting suitable transflective film is also not easy (as you know ;-),
we tried to use transflective film WITHOUT removing the original pol layer
(i.e. instead of the transparent foil we use now) and found out that this
doesn't improve the quality at all.

I agree that probably the quality would be better if the polarizing
layer would be replaced by transflective polarizer. But then the
backlight upgrade would cost 250$ and would be available not before
2005. :-)

In addition my time is very limited, and all this backlight research
does of course not bring me that much money as if I would do a "real"
job, in fact, it does not bring me any money. It brought me some valuabe
donations, which I very much appreciate, but this doesn't cover the
costs for a living. ;-)

daniel

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Date:         Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:56:58 +0100
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i am looking for a PCMCIA memory card for my HP95LX.
has someone such an item for sale ?
--=20
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My last post should have read "Range name already exists" sorry to post
again, I though I should correct it:-

I have a problem....

Lotus 123 Reports "Range name already exists" on my HP200LX.
This is after it has been opened and saved in Excel as *.wk1.

I have not seen this problem before, has any one had it and resolved it?
I believe it worked before (but can't be sure of that).

Dave S

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sorry for posting last private (and dutch) message to the list...


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Date:         Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:21:34 +0100
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okay it was not posted for it exeeded the line limit :) (lotsa
quotations...)

[n]
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> sorry for posting last private (and dutch) message to the list...
>
>
> Niels
>
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hooray!


after some strugling i _finally_ got the 700lx display apart! It is hold
together very tight by several plastic pins (as the 200lx, i think).. I
broke one that was to tight but I think it will still hold. Things were to
tight for a creditcard (I used an old one and it's very bended now... lucky
me to use an old card :) ) so I used a tiny screwdriver instead. It left
some ugly scratches but thats far better than a bad display...

The display I have in my 700lx seems the same is in Daniels
backlight-install sheet. The type-number (i think) is: LMG6786XNFR
F1020-80055 and it's a HITACHI display.

Daniel: If more information (or pictures?) is wanted (for the backlight or
sth else), contact me and I will see what I can do. I will keep my 700lx
opened up the next few days (I haven't been able to use it for some time
thus those few days extra don't matter that much :) )

Hoping this was of any help,



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Date:         Sun, 5 Jan 2003 10:16:36 -0500
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Thanks to you all for the great responses!  I knew
I could count on this group for good advice.

Based on your information, I've decided to send
in my 200LX for repair.  I have an old single speed
1MB 100LX that I can try and use in the meantime
with my flash card (sure will miss SC though, but
if Thaddeus has fast turnaround, the wait will be worth it).

One question:  with regard to the 200LX, can I just
copy the C: drive to a flash card and then copy it
back when Thaddeus returns the 200LX?

Also, from your experience, on average,
how long does Thaddeus take to turnaround
repairs?  Could anyone tell me their experience
with them?

Thanks again for your help!

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Date:         Sun, 5 Jan 2003 07:50:55 -0800
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Barry wrote...
>> Ah.  I don't remember anything about Nordic, but Portuguese does
>> sound sort of familiar (as well as US and UK).

B> Everett, stick around.  You'll learn a lot about LX palmtops here.
B> :)

:-) Thanks, Barry! :-)

Actually, my memoris of the localized versions are so weak because
we at Corvallis (in general) had very little to do with them compared
to the US version.  ie, we developed the product as the US version,
with the localized versions "in mind", and leaving room in the ROMs
for slight expansion of text, but the actual translations were done
by another company, who would send the files back to us, we'd do
the builds, then send them off for testing.  But other than the
necessary "keyboard layout" and ROM building efforts, we software
engineers saw very little of the localized machines.

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Date:         Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:20:21 -0500
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November & December 2002 logs are now available! Sorry for the delay.

Happyt New Year!

Cheers...Al Kind
Microchemistry Lab & Proteomics Ctr, University of CT
3113 Horsebarn Rd, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
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Date:         Sun, 5 Jan 2003 15:16:46 -0600
Reply-To:     Tim <palmtop@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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Hi there,

Glad to see you're repairing your LX(!).

re:
>I have an old single speed 1MB 100LX that I can try
>and use in the meantime with my flash card
(sure will miss SC though, ..... <snip>)

I've actually run SC (SC7) FROM a flash card (the "swap" area was on the
flash card) on a single speed 100LX. It was pretty slow (if you're used to
DS AND running it on internal memory). Some folks here (a long time ago)
have expressed that it's TOO slow for their patience ... I found it was OK,
if you REALLY like multiple sessions.

re:
>One question:  with regard to the 200LX, can I just
>copy the C: drive to a flash card and then copy it
>back when Thaddeus returns the 200LX?

Sure, if there are no drive-letter dependant functions or batch files
(things once on "C:" will now be on "A:"). I used to use my 100LX as a
back-up, whenever my 200LX was down for repairs. It was a little frustrating
(especially, when I had SC setup) because there were drive letter changes
that put a hitch in things, but it was quite "do-able." You may need to
"point" your built-in applications default for "C:\_dat" to "A:\_dat" (I
think this is in "filer.ini" on your "C:\_dat" ... someone here will be able
to better tell you *exactly* what all to change). You may be able to do
something cool w/ the "set" command, on start-up. Someone "chime in here"
and I'll learn something too!!

re:
Thaddeus' "turn around time" on repairs... The last time I sent something in
it was back so fast my head spun(!). You might not finish setting up SC,
adjusting the drive changes and "tweaking" the 100LX to your liking, before
the 200LX is back.

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Date:         Mon, 6 Jan 2003 00:07:30 +0100
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Date:         Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:02:39 -0600
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I had many experiences (repairs, buys, etc..) with Thaddeus. They were all
satisfactory. They also have great support.

Turnaround times were reasonable (usually between 1-2 weeks). It also
depends on the type of shipment.

A. G. OZISIK



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From: "A. S. Tepper" <tepperas@ASTCOLTD.COM>

...
Also, from your experience, on average,
how long does Thaddeus take to turnaround
repairs?  Could anyone tell me their experience
with them?

Thanks again for your help!

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*&%@^^%$$! Case sensitive UNIX :-(


- all set now...sorry

Cheers...Al Kind
Microchemistry Lab & Proteomics Ctr, University of CT
3113 Horsebarn Rd, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
ph:(860)486-6126 eFAX:(413)826-8780

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But URL's are empty...

AJKind wrote:
>
> November & December 2002 logs are now available! Sorry for the delay.
>
> Happyt New Year!
>
> Cheers...Al Kind
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> 3113 Horsebarn Rd, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
> ph:(860)486-6126 eFAX:(413)826-8780
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Date:         Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:28:16 -0600
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On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 22:07:11 -0000 Richard McEvoy wrote:
>I have created an empty NDB file (calling it Health) as per page 8-6 of the
>User's guide. This is to take all of Dr. Nat's notes from her Health D'base
>and keep her GDB's separate. I cannot get it to load the notes which I have
>parked in a directory called Nathlth on A. First I tried putting them in
>C:\_dat\health. When this didn't work, I tried the merge option, highlighted
>the directory in A where they all were and clicked OK, but this elicited
>"File not found"

What format are the notes in? Are they already in their own .NDB file
or files? This is what the "merge" feature is for, but I get the
impression that isn't what you have. It sounds like your notes are in
various files in the c:\_dat\health directory. What format are they
in?

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Date:         Mon, 6 Jan 2003 11:03:49 +0100
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Hi,

You can use any compact flash card from Sandisk up to 32Mb. To use
the card you'll have to install the driver for a Sundisk SDPL series card=
=20
(former name of Sandisk). This is on SUPER. There's also a modified drive=
r=20
on SUPER that allows you to use most other branded
CF cards too.

One problem with using CF on the 95LX is the current drain even when
the 95LX is turned off. You can solve this with a small hardware hack.
Look on the net for the pin outs of a PCMCIA slot. Then after opening up=20
your 95LX you have to cut the Vcc voltage pin. I've done this and
now my CF doesn't draw current anymore when the LX is turned off.

In my earlier postings (TECH: In search for memory cards that work on the=
=20
95LX) you can read more details.

Good Luck!

Christian.






>From: Marc BERLIOUX <xmarc@FREE.FR>
>Reply-To: xmarc@free.fr
>To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: memory card for HP95LX
>Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:56:58 +0100
>
>i am looking for a PCMCIA memory card for my HP95LX.
>has someone such an item for sale ?
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Date:         Mon, 6 Jan 2003 11:22:41 +0100
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Hello all,

Micro$oft plans something called OneNote or Scribbler, a note tool intended
mostly for tablet PCs (called Mira) and handheld devices.

I still have no clue if this will be something intelligent, like Lotus Agenda
or just a Memo/Note equivalent.

Anyhow, one knowledgeable should look into OneNote and Lotus Agenda / Memo
relation in advance and investigate sync methods, so that HPLX does not become
handicapped in connectivity when OneNote arrives.
<www.microsoft.com/office/onenote/overview.asp>

"Microsoft OneNoteT is a new program in the Microsoft Office family. It
enables you to capture, organize, and reuse your notes electronically on any
laptop computer, desktop computer, or Tablet PC. OneNote gives you one place
for all your notes, and the freedom to organize them the way you want. It also
helps you capture information in multiple ways and organize and reuse that
information according to your needs. Using OneNote, you can work with your
notes and information more productively."

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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> You can use any compact flash card from Sandisk up to 32Mb. To use
> the card you'll have to install the driver for a Sundisk SDPL series ca=
rd
> (former name of Sandisk). This is on SUPER. There's also a modified dri=
ver
> on SUPER that allows you to use most other branded
> CF cards too.

are you sure you're talking about the 95LX ?
because 95LX has a very thin PCMCIA slot (must be type 1 ?)
i don't think you can use compact flash cards in 95LX

> In my earlier postings (TECH: In search for memory cards that work on t=
he
> 95LX) you can read more details.

where can i get those postings ?

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Date:         Mon, 6 Jan 2003 13:21:57 +0100
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Marc,

I am really talking about the 95LX. It has a PCMCIA 1.0 slot, but
also takes type II cards. Note that 1.0 is the PCMCIA revision and not th=
e=20
type of PCMCIA. PCMCIA 1.0 only supports memory cards (common memory mode=
)=20
and no other PCMCIA hardware (device mode). Sundisk, former name of Sandi=
sk=20
used to market a PCMCIA 2.0 card with a special memory mode driver that=20
allowed the use of the card on a 95LX.
The same driver works with Sandisk branded CF in a suitable adapter.
Go to www.technoir.nu, click HPLX archives and search for my name.
You'll find two articles describing the full details about the 95LX
and memory cards. (Title: "TECH: In search for memory cards that
work on the 95LX"). My 95LX is currently running a (C) 2001
Sandisk SDCFB-32 compact flash card ! It works like a charm !

Christian.








>From: Marc BERLIOUX <xmarc@FREE.FR>
>Reply-To: xmarc@free.fr
>To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: memory card for HP95LX
>Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 12:33:25 +0100
>
> > You can use any compact flash card from Sandisk up to 32Mb. To use
> > the card you'll have to install the driver for a Sundisk SDPL series=20
>card
> > (former name of Sandisk). This is on SUPER. There's also a modified=20
>driver
> > on SUPER that allows you to use most other branded
> > CF cards too.
>
>are you sure you're talking about the 95LX ?
>because 95LX has a very thin PCMCIA slot (must be type 1 ?)
>i don't think you can use compact flash cards in 95LX
>
> > In my earlier postings (TECH: In search for memory cards that work on=
=20
>the
> > 95LX) you can read more details.
>
>where can i get those postings ?
>
>--
>Marc BERLIOUX
>Khrouchtchev : "Les politiciens sont les m=EAmes partout :
>ils promettent de construire des ponts l=E0 o=F9 il n'y a pas de rivi=E8=
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>
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Date:         Mon, 6 Jan 2003 13:22:16 +0100
Reply-To:     Christian Felique <cfelique@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Marc,

I am really talking about the 95LX. It has a PCMCIA 1.0 slot, but
also takes type II cards. Note that 1.0 is the PCMCIA revision and not th=
e=20
type of PCMCIA. PCMCIA 1.0 only supports memory cards (common memory mode=
)=20
and no other PCMCIA hardware (device mode). Sundisk, former name of Sandi=
sk=20
used to market a PCMCIA 2.0 card with a special memory mode driver that=20
allowed the use of the card on a 95LX.
The same driver works with Sandisk branded CF in a suitable adapter.
Go to www.technoir.nu, click HPLX archives and search for my name.
You'll find two articles describing the full details about the 95LX
and memory cards. (Title: "TECH: In search for memory cards that
work on the 95LX"). My 95LX is currently running a (C) 2001
Sandisk SDCFB-32 compact flash card ! It works like a charm !

Christian.








>From: Marc BERLIOUX <xmarc@FREE.FR>
>Reply-To: xmarc@free.fr
>To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: memory card for HP95LX
>Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 12:33:25 +0100
>
> > You can use any compact flash card from Sandisk up to 32Mb. To use
> > the card you'll have to install the driver for a Sundisk SDPL series=20
>card
> > (former name of Sandisk). This is on SUPER. There's also a modified=20
>driver
> > on SUPER that allows you to use most other branded
> > CF cards too.
>
>are you sure you're talking about the 95LX ?
>because 95LX has a very thin PCMCIA slot (must be type 1 ?)
>i don't think you can use compact flash cards in 95LX
>
> > In my earlier postings (TECH: In search for memory cards that work on=
=20
>the
> > 95LX) you can read more details.
>
>where can i get those postings ?
>
>--
>Marc BERLIOUX
>Khrouchtchev : "Les politiciens sont les m=EAmes partout :
>ils promettent de construire des ponts l=E0 o=F9 il n'y a pas de rivi=E8=
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>
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              error).
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Tim wrote:

> Is there any way to "get" any remaining data out of the "unallocated"
> territory? Or, access the unallocated sectors w/o needing to format them for
> use first? I don't know how he accessed the area before and can only hope he
> wasn't able to wipe the data, when he was trying to change boot drives.

   You want a "sector level" disk editor.  I would suggest
Norton Utilities DISKEDIT, except that I haven't used any
version new enough to support large IDE drives.  Partition
Magic might have something.

   But DFSee at http://www.dfsee.com/ or
http://www.dfsee.com/dfsee.htm is what you want.  It's a
current shareware product for getting you out of hard disk
problems.  A review of it is at

http://www.dfsee.com/dfsee/doc/dfsvoice.htm

> His computer may never be able to access the full 30GB again (I suspect he
> used the "overlay" program for older computers, that came w/ the Maxtor
> drive, but I'll never know),

   Sounds like.  And that was probably written to the boot
sector of his old drive, so that when he swapped drives
things stopped working.  The data is probably still there,
but, with the partition stuctures gone, you will be lucky to
recover things without a lot of effort.  If he cares about
the whole drive he/you should reinstall the "overlay" (BIOS
extentions).

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> i am looking for a PCMCIA memory card for my HP95LX.
> has someone such an item for sale ?

I don't have any for sale but SRAM cards are still for sale on the
web.  Up to 4 meg and I think they even had 8 meg but I don't know
if that'll work on the 95lx.  I have a 2 meg card in mine so I know
that works.

I don't have a url but I found it by following a link posted on
this list, last year, I think, but I'm not sure.  You might try
searching the archive for SRAM or just doing a Google search for
SRAM.

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Does Hal still have any of the Dutch Railcard 1.5MB SRAM cards for =
sale?
They will work in the 95LX (I'm using one in a Poqet).

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i am looking for a PCMCIA memory card for my HP95LX.
has someone such an item for sale ?
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>
> I don't have a url but I found it by following a link posted on
> this list, last year, I think, but I'm not sure.  You might try
> searching the archive for SRAM or just doing a Google search for
> SRAM.

I've got a 512K SRAM card from HP :)
I think that's not enough for you...

Bye,

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<<Does Hal still have any of the Dutch Railcard 1.5MB SRAM cards for
sale? They will work in the 95LX (I'm using one in a Poqet).>>

I think we still have LOTs in our basement. Should work in 95LX. Assume
still good even though rechargeable batteries haven't been charged in
several years. Unfortunately, on a one or two unit basis, not worth
trying to sell.  I'd sell 100 for $50 if anyone is interested under
conditions:

1. We'll check a few of batch to make sure OK.
2. Buyer accepts batch even if some don't work.
3. We have no idea how long they will last or how long data will last
when removed from LX. (They come with internal, virtually impossible to
get to, rechargeable, lithium watch batteries. The LX charges the
battery.)
4. They look very used.

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<<Also, from your experience, on average,
how long does Thaddeus take to turnaround
repairs?  Could anyone tell me their experience
with them?>>

Our internal standard is that they are in and out within 48 hours (work
days). Shipping time determines rest.

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Mon, 06.01.03 5:46 PM +0200

Hi friends,

ok, now we know that the 700LX screen is identical to the 200LX screen
(THANKS!).
The tech who will upgrade the palmtops will have to try to open a 700LX
himself to be able to upgrade 700LXs, so if anyone here has a 700LX
(can be defective, only the case must be OK) which he can lend to the
tech (Well, we can not give a guarantee that the case will survive the
adventure!), please let me know.

The other thing we must know in order to be able to upgrade 700LXs is
if the CPU pin which we use on the 200LX is also available for this
purpose in the 700LX. I could imagine that it is used in the 700LX to
perform another action, maybe switching one of the status LEDs
something like that.

So I encourage all 700LX users here who want to support the backlight
project to download Stefan's backlite driver v2.0 from SUPER (search
for "backlite" and load it on their 700LXs. Then play around with the
hotkey Fn-X and observe if it affects functionality in any way,
especially the communications functions, which are not available on the
200LX.

And for those who want to be even more active:
Would be good to measure signal level on the pin! It is pin 48 of the
CPU, see also the close-up pictures of the CPU on
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/backlight/install
1. Measure if the driver switches the signal between 0V and +5V
2. Measure if anything else (communication settings in datacomm, phone
dock, whatever...) also switches the pin high/low.

Or is anything exact known about that?

Thanks
daniel

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Hi,

I wonder if nobody ever tried to find out who the manufacturer was of the
LCD screens for the HP palmtops. Maybe the same manufacturer also
used to produce backlight versions of their LCD screens with (almost)the
same form factor and interface connectors.

Now another one: is there a chance that there will also be a backlight
solution for the 95LX? When I compare my 95LX and 700LX I still prefer the
readability of the large characters even if there are only 40 columns
instead of 80.

And what about front light solutions ? I remember having seen someday
on E-Bay a transparant plasma that could be put on top of the 200LX
screen to light it up in dark conditions. Are there any Japanse
newsgroup members out here who know what I am talking of ? This would
be an easy solution, since no parts would have to be disassembled.

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On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi Mike
>
> 1 day 09h11m ago Michael Kopplin wrote:
>
> > then it's limited to about 4k records. A large text file would
> > be easiest to create, but more difficult to view and search.
>
> What about a PE compatible database? That would be simple text (easy to
> create), but nice to search and view in PE.
>


Hi Daniel,

I hadn't thought of that. You wouldn't by any chance have any
example databases, or more detailed description of setting up
databases in PE?

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Hi,

Maybe this is interesting to us too: the Afterburner is a front
light solution for the Gameboy Advance. It is marketed by Tritonlabs
(www.tritonlabs.com) Maybe we should find out more about it, and what if
there would exist a similar solution for larger LCD screens ?

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Date:         Mon, 6 Jan 2003 21:16:15 +0200
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Hi Christian

10m ....>> in the future <<.... ago Christian Felique wrote:

> I wonder if nobody ever tried to find out who the manufacturer was of the
> LCD screens for the HP palmtops. Maybe the same manufacturer also
> used to produce backlight versions of their LCD screens with (almost)the
> same form factor and interface connectors.

The screen is made by Hitachi.
I believe that screen was almost solely made for the HP palmtops, and
they probably don't manufacture that screen anymore foe a long time, so
I doubt that there is a backlit version available.

Does anyone here have any connections to Hitachi so that (s)he could
ask somebody?

> Now another one: is there a chance that there will also be a backlight
> solution for the 95LX? When I compare my 95LX and 700LX I still prefer the
> readability of the large characters even if there are only 40 columns
> instead of 80.

Not from us.
If someone wants to modify the backlight kit for the 95LX, please do
it! It would probably involve modifying the EL foil slightly in size,
finding a 5V power supply which can be used for the backlight driver
(maybe the PCMCIA 5V supply can also be used there, I don't know), and
finding a new source for the software switching signal. Of course a
hardware switch could be used alternatively.
And I don't know if the 95LX screen is similar to the 200LX screen in
its properties, so I don't know if it can be treated similarly to the
200LX screen and also I don'T know if the light intensity which passed
the screen will be the same. Many unknown factors, so if someone has
the time for that, it would be good. But I definitely won't.

> And what about front light solutions ? I remember having seen someday
> on E-Bay a transparant plasma that could be put on top of the 200LX
> screen to light it up in dark conditions. Are there any Japanse
> newsgroup members out here who know what I am talking of ? This would
> be an easy solution, since no parts would have to be disassembled.

I have never heard of the solution you talk about. Sounds interesting.
:-)

Do you know http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight ?

But since backlight is available very soon now, I'm not in business
anymore with the LED lights. They are all sold.


daniel


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Hi,

the DOCRTF porgram sometimes issues error messages about

        - invalid GLED elements

Does somebody know what "GLED" stands for?

Thanks
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Date:         Tue, 7 Jan 2003 09:41:47 +0100
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Some time ago I've seen the assembly instructions of the afterburner. They
were on the web so a search might help.
The afterburner however is an 'edge-light', it basically is a long and thin
light which emits it light to the edge of the gamboy screen, a little like
this (phear my ascii skills :P)

  side-view                         front view
  ___
___________________________________________
 | O |  the afterburner            |
========================================= |
 |/|\|
|/|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||\|
 _____
___________________________________________
|     |                            |
|
|     | the gameboy display        |
|
|     |                            |
|
|     |                            |
|
|     |                            |
|
      |
|
      |
|

(it might proove helpfull to use a font with an equal width for each
character. If it shows up messy copy and paste into notepad which usually
use a font like that)

the afterburner is not exactly like i've 'drawn' here but its that
principle. If I remeber well it uses leds, and some 'higly precise
laser-cutted' plexi 'thing' (sorry don't know the word :/) to equally spread
the light over the side (so you don't get led 'spots' like you see usually
in mobile phone or other displays but an equally lit side). Using this
technique the upper part of the display is likely to be lit more than the
underside for the afterburner is put on top.. In the gameboy, there is room
enough to put the afterburner. In the 200lx (or at least my 700lx) however,
there is not. Due to the screens construction, you have at least to remove
some of the metal holding of the display to be able to place the afterburner
(given there is enough room to place it). The gameboy does not have this
holding so it's easier to put the afterburner in the gameboy then in the LX.
Because you have to remove the metal holding on the upper side of the
display changes are that the connection between the print and the display
itself may loosen a bit and thus you can lose vertical lines on your
display, which will be an unwanted side-effect...

In my opinion the backlight developped by Daniel and others is a better
solution.


This is how far I know or can think of. Hopefully it is of any help.


Niels

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> Hi,
>
> Maybe this is interesting to us too: the Afterburner is a front
> light solution for the Gameboy Advance. It is marketed by Tritonlabs
> (www.tritonlabs.com) Maybe we should find out more about it, and what if
> there would exist a similar solution for larger LCD screens ?
>
> Christian.

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ok the line width criples my highly-skilled ascii artwork so I reduced it
little in size so I hope it fits now

  side-view                   front view
  ___                         _____________________________________
 | O |  the afterburner      | =================================== |
 |/|\|                       |/|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||\|
 _____                        _____________________________________
|     |                      |                                     |
|     | the gameboy display  |                                     |
|     |                      |                                     |
|     |                      |                                     |
|     |                      |                                     |
|     |                      |                                     |
|     |                      |                                     |
|                            |

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Tue, 07.01.03 1:38 PM +0200

Hi friends,

I have updated my palmtop pages, especially the 95LX page and the 1000CX
and 700LX page.
Also some added datapoints to the storage card table on the 200LX page.

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/index_pt.shtml
(under "technical Information about the palmtops")

Backlight upgrade info is now embedded and the pages are
much more complete.

Please report broken links, missing pictures and other errors!

daniel


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Hi friends,

finally, we know at least one of the people displayed by the "Lair of
Squid" game's gallery easter-egg. :-)

See http://www.palmtop.net/creators.html

daniel

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Hello,

On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> finally, we know at least one of the people displayed by the "Lair of
> Squid" game's gallery easter-egg. :-)
>
> See http://www.palmtop.net/creators.html

The 'magic word' should be translated. For example, on a french HP200, you
have to type 'galerie' instead of 'gallery' to activate this easter-egg.

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Le Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:08:47 +0200
Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> a =E9crit:

> See http://www.palmtop.net/creators.html

Everett can also been seen in a videotape made by HP's Raan Young for
the HPCC conference in 1992. Video showing, among them, interviews of
some members of the Corvallis team and the complete manufacturing
process of the HP95...

Unfortunately, It seems that I have lost my own copy of this videotape
(and anyway, it was in a very poor quality then I don't think I could
made copies from it), but I think you can get one from Jake Schwartz
<jake-s@water.waterw.com> / http://www.magpage.com/~jakes/ ,=20
who keeps a collection of videotapes filmed during some HP users groups
conferences..


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I recently got an 85MB SanDisk SDP3B flash card for my 200LX and sold my
95LX, so I now have two 10MB Epson-branded SunDisk SDP5's  that I don't
need. Before going to eBay, I'm offering them to the list at $5.00 each
(postpaid in the US or Canada; actual postage additional elsewhere). They
are good cards for the 95LX, as they work with the SunDisk driver. Reply to
me off-list if you are interested.

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Norbert wrote...
NG> the DOCRTF porgram sometimes issues error messages about
NG>         - invalid GLED elements
NG> Does somebody know what "GLED" stands for?

I've never heard of DOCRTF before, but I assume it has to do with
DOC and/or RTF (text editing) document files.  Given that, I'd say
they're talking about the GLobal EDitor (GLED) module within the
100LX and 200LX, which serves as the "core" for the note editing
in all of the built-in applications, including Appointments, Database,
Notes, and (of course) Memo.  It's implemented as a "library" of
sorts, which has an API (Application Programming Interface) that can
be called by a program to provide "note editing" within that
application.  (I wrote GLED, and Memo, when I worked for HP back
when...)

So, based on all of the above, I'd say that DOCRTF is probably
trying to translate a Memo file from the 100LX/200LX to either
.DOC or .RTF format (or vice versa) and is encountering something
that it doesn't know how to handle in the formatting.

Everett

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Hi Erwann, Everett and others,

02h27m ago Erwann ABALEA wrote:

> The 'magic word' should be translated. For example, on a french HP200, you
> have to type 'galerie' instead of 'gallery' to activate this easter-egg.

Have added that to http://www.palmtop.net/creators.html

But does anyone (Everett?) know the magic word for the German version? I
have tried it on my German palmtop with "galerie", "Galerie", and even
some misspelled versions of the German word for gallery, but to no
avail.

Also, what are the magic words on a Spanish / Portuguese palmtop (and
whatever localized palmtop versions are around)?

daniel

--
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http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale
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Date:         Tue, 7 Jan 2003 11:41:33 -0600
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<<I wonder if nobody ever tried to find out who the manufacturer was of
the LCD screens for the HP palmtops. Maybe the same manufacturer also
used to produce backlight versions of their LCD screens with (almost)the
same form factor and interface connectors.>>

I believe it was Hitachi and that Mack when he was working on the
project, investigated.  BTW my understanding is that one of the reasons
HP stopped manufacturing the 200LX when they did was the cost of the
screen. It was an older technology and had to be produced in smaller and
smaller quantities, which meant the price was going up significantly.

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Subject:      Virus Detected -- Not a hoax!
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This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.

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A virus has been passed on to me by a contact. My address book has in turn
been infected. Since you are in my address book there is a chance that you
will find it in your computer too.

I followed the instructions below and eradicated the virus easily.

The virus (called jdbgmgr.exe) is not detected by Norton or MacAfee
anti-virus-system. This virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the
system. It is sent automatically be messenger and by the address book,
whether or not you send emails to your contacts.

Here's how to check the virus and get rid of it:

1. Go to start, then go up to the find or search -option
2. In the file/folders option, type the name: jdbgmgr.exe
3. Be sure you search your C-drive and all the sub-folders and any other
drives you may have.(Click on the box to include sub folders.)
4. Click: "Find now"
5. The virus has a grey teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe. DO NOT
OPEN IT.
6. Go to Edit (on the menu bar) and choose "select all" to highlight the
file without opening it.
7. Now go to File (on the menu bar) and select DELETE. It will then go to
the Recycle Bin.
8. Go to the recycle Bin and delete it there as well.

IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS, you must contact all the people in your address book,
so they can eradicate it in their own address books.

To do this:

1. Open a new email message
2. Click the icon of the address book next to the "to"
3. Highlight every name and add to "BCC"
4. Copy this message, enter subject and paste to email, and send

Remember you have to do this very quickly!


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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">


<META content="MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=GENERATOR></HEAD>
<BODY>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>A virus has been passed on to&nbsp;<SPAN
class=313093717-07012003>me </SPAN>by a contact.&nbsp;<SPAN
class=313093717-07012003>My</SPAN> address book has in turn been infected. Since
you are in my address book there is a chance that you will find it in your
computer too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I followed the instructions below and eradicated the virus
easily.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The virus (called jdbgmgr.exe) is not detected by Norton
or MacAfee anti-virus-system. This virus sits quietly for 14 days before
damaging the system. It is sent automatically be messenger and by the address
book, whether or not you send emails to your contacts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Here's how to check the virus and get rid of
it:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=313093717-07012003>1. </SPAN>Go to start, then
go up to the find or search -option<BR><SPAN class=313093717-07012003>2.
</SPAN>In the file/folders option, type the name: jdbgmgr.exe<BR><SPAN
class=313093717-07012003>3. </SPAN>Be sure you search your C-drive and all the
sub-folders and any other drives you may have.(Click on the box to include sub
folders.)<BR><SPAN class=313093717-07012003>4. </SPAN>Click: "Find now"<BR><SPAN
class=313093717-07012003>5. </SPAN>The virus has a grey teddy bear icon with the
name jdbgmgr.exe. DO NOT OPEN IT.<BR><SPAN class=313093717-07012003>6. </SPAN>Go
to Edit (on the menu bar) and choose "select all" to highlight the file without
opening it.<BR><SPAN class=313093717-07012003>7. </SPAN>Now go to File (on the
menu bar) and select DELETE. It will then go to the Recycle Bin.<BR><SPAN
class=313093717-07012003>8. </SPAN>Go to the recycle Bin and delete it there as
well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS, you must contact all the people in
your address book, so they can eradicate it in their own address
books.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>To do this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>1. Open a new email message<BR>2. Click the icon of the
address book next to the "to"<BR>3. Highlight every name and add to "BCC"<BR>4.
Copy this message, enter subject and paste to email, and send</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Remember you have to do this very
quickly!<BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Date:         Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:15:10 -0500
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Comments: To: "Batson, Dale N" <dale.n.batson@LMCO.COM>
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Dale,

Before you spread virus information:


You may want to check out  http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/HoaxBustersHome.html

It is a great source of verification of hard to believe or shocking things
that get spread around.


Thanks,

Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393
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Date:         Tue, 7 Jan 2003 19:18:03 +0100
Reply-To:     Michel Bel <michel.bel@ZONNET.NL>
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From:         Michel Bel <michel.bel@ZONNET.NL>
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When I do a 'debug maze.exe' on the palmtop, and hit d for dump
forever, I find the word GALLERY at location 155b:3220..
So debug should solve the problem...
Michel
----- Origineel Bericht -----
Van: Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Datum: Dinsdag, Januari 7, 2003 5:09 pm
Onderwerp: Re: Picture of Everett Kaser

> Hi Erwann, Everett and others,
>
> 02h27m ago Erwann ABALEA wrote:
>
> > The 'magic word' should be translated. For example, on a french
> HP200, you
> > have to type 'galerie' instead of 'gallery' to activate this
> easter-egg.
>
> Have added that to http://www.palmtop.net/creators.html
>
> But does anyone (Everett?) know the magic word for the German
> version? I
> have tried it on my German palmtop with "galerie", "Galerie", and even
> some misspelled versions of the German word for gallery, but to no
> avail.
>
> Also, what are the magic words on a Spanish / Portuguese palmtop (and
> whatever localized palmtop versions are around)?
>
> daniel
>
> --
> http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact
> http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale
> "...and nothing was ever heard from him again,
> except for the sound of Tubular Bells"
>
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On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Batson, Dale N wrote:

> A virus has been passed on to me by a contact. My address book has in
> turn been infected. Since you are in my address book there is a chance
> that you will find it in your computer too.

I trust that by now you have found out that, despite the subject of your
message, this is indeed a hoax.  jdbgmgr.exe is the Java Debug Manager and
is a standard Windows file.

> I followed the instructions below and eradicated the virus easily.

Deleting it probably won't matter much to the normal operation of your
computer, unless you do Java programming, but even so, it's obviously not
a good idea to be deleting system files.

Snopes, over at www.snopes.com, is a great source of information on this
kind of thing.  Their page on the jdbgmgr.exe hoax is at
http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/jdbgmgr.htm.  Always a good idea to
check e-mails out with them, or with some other reliable source, before
forwarding anything.

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Date:         Tue, 7 Jan 2003 11:53:18 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Lair of the Squid Easter Egg  (was RE: Picture of Everett Kas
              er)
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Content-Type: text/plain

Anyone know what the word "Secret" (which occurs shortly after the Borland
C++ Copyright 1991 notice and before "GALLERY", at 21F1:2DF0 in my Bebug
dump) is there for?

-----Original Message-----
From: Michel Bel [mailto:michel.bel@ZONNET.NL]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:18 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: Picture of Everett Kaser


When I do a 'debug maze.exe' on the palmtop, and hit d for dump
forever, I find the word GALLERY at location 155b:3220..
So debug should solve the problem...
Michel

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Date:         Tue, 7 Jan 2003 20:44:28 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Michel

09m ago Michel  Bel wrote:

> When I do a 'debug maze.exe' on the palmtop, and hit d for dump
> forever, I find the word GALLERY at location 155b:3220..
> So debug should solve the problem...

THANKS!
The word on German maze.exes is "siegergalerie".

I will add that to the palmtop.net/creators.html page soon.

Any other languages available?

daniel

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AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
:-O

We're Doomed!!!!

RUN!


actually... this is the internet equivalent of a 'kick me' sign.

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:40 PM
Subject: Virus Detected -- Not a hoax!


A virus has been passed on to me by a contact. My address book has in turn
been infected. Since you are in my address book there is a chance that you
will find it in your computer too.

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Date:         Tue, 7 Jan 2003 22:50:22 +0100
Reply-To:     Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG>
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From:         Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG>
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Le Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:15:10 -0500
"Paul Anderson@Systems-Consulting" <Sales@SYSTEMS-CONSULTING.COM> a =E9cr=
it:

> You may want to check out  http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/HoaxBustersHome.=
html

This time, it is a real virus.

It as been mentionned in the last Trendmicro newsletter, a few days ago.

You can find more info at :
  http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=3DWORM_=
RECORY.A
  and
  http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.recory@mm.h=
tml=20

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Date:         Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:15:20 +0100
Reply-To:     Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG>
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Two French HP200lx have been placed on e-bay at the same time :

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1949663772
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1949583403


When I think I waited several months before to find another HP200lx
after mine was stolen, it is a strange coincidence...

Anyway, I must pass my turn for these, then if anybody is interrested...

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Date:         Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:32:07 +0000
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I know there are Freecell players here, thanks to Curtis
Cameron's game for the LX.  I just found a web based game at;

  http://www.freecell.com

It keeps stats and there are tournaments too.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Tue, 7 Jan 2003 20:38:06 -0500
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Folks:

You already know -- or have by now found out -- that this is a hoax and
jdbgmgr.exe is a standard part of Windows.

What I haven't seen mentioned here yet is that there IS a virus associated
with all this.  There are emails circulating that perpetuate the hoax, and
instruct you to execute the attached .exe to eradicate the virus.

Said .exe is, of course, a trojan horse virus in its own right.

It goes without saying that this doesn't have a lot of impact on our LXes,
but many of us have desktop machines, too.  The bottom line is: As always,
be EXTREMELY cautious about opening ANY attachment you are not expecting,
especially if it's from someone you don't know or if the email urges you to
"pass this along to as many people as you can."

Rick

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On 1/7/2003 at 10:40 AM Batson, Dale N wrote:

>A virus has been passed on to me by a contact. My address book has in turn
>been infected. Since you are in my address book there is a chance that you
>will find it in your computer too.
>
>I followed the instructions below and eradicated the virus easily.
>
>The virus (called jdbgmgr.exe) is not detected by Norton or MacAfee
>anti-virus-system. This virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the
>system. It is sent automatically be messenger and by the address book,
>whether or not you send emails to your contacts...

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Date:         Tue, 7 Jan 2003 20:33:46 -0500
Reply-To:     Tim <palmtop@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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On Tuesday 07 January 2003 06:15 pm, Jacques Belin wrote:
> Two French HP200lx have been placed on e-bay at the same time :
>
> http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1949663772
> http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1949583403

Jacques,=20

You helped me solve a mystery from my past(!). I'd never seen a French LX=
 or a=20
keyboard before; so I followed your link...=20

OK, it was only a small mystery. I was in Bosnia, working w/ a multinatio=
nal=20
group. I wondered why all the French officers typed by looking at the=20
keyboard (and often swore while doing so ... I learned several new French=
=20
words <grin>). It was a NATO posting and all the computers were=20
American/English.=20

I didn't know our keyboards were differently laid out! (there were no Fre=
nch=20
computers over there and I wasn't one to pester French colonels, when the=
y=20
were mad ... I was only a captain).

My only "handicap" was that NATO requires British spelling conventions (C=
heers=20
to any Brits. on the list) and I had to spell-check things to get rid of =
my=20
"American versions" of certain words like "organized" ("organised," I thi=
nk)=20
etc.

BUT, it was a French colonel who "turned me on" to Thaddeus computing(!).=
 His=20
200LX was a "standard" American one. I had a 100LX (still do, for back-up=
)=20
and he shared his Palmtop paper, etc. At about mid-point in my tour there=
, I=20
went home for a short vacation, and had Hal's guys hook me up w/ a DS 200=
LX.=20
Been hooked ever since.

Thanks!

--tim
PS. I THINK I submitted a few "MUPs" from Sarajevo, but I suppose those a=
ren't=20
maintained anywhere (as a complete/searchable collection) are they? I don=
't=20
even remember where I emailed them back in '97.

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Date:         Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:32:13 +0800
Reply-To:     wee-meng lee <leewm@anakin.sgp.hp.com>
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Hi,

Does any know if anyone knows if this Sipix printer would work with the
serial port of the 200LX?

http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1807
http://www.sipixdigital.com/printers/pocketA6/

What about with the IRDA driver?

thx
weemeng

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Date:         Wed, 8 Jan 2003 07:29:06 -0800
Reply-To:     Everett Kaser <everett@kaser.com>
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From:         Everett Kaser <everett@KASER.COM>
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Andrew wrote...
A> Did you have any contact with the early Omnibooks (300, 425, 430)?
A> I've always notice that they look like oversized LXs.
A> I've got a couple of OB 425s which I like for many of the same reasons I
A> like the palmtop, OS and applications in ROM, light weight, good (for a
A> computer) battery life.

I don't recall exactly when the 300 project was started, as it was
already under way when I joined the 95LX project, and since I wasn't
involved in the 300, my memories of it are more along the lines of
"that other project going on in the lab."  The Corvallis R&D group
had earlier (in the late 70's and early 80's) developed and produced
several other projects, the HP 85 series of computers, and their
"sister product" the HP 75 "handheld" computer (the 75 was basically
an 85 in a (for the time) very small handheld package, but closer
to the size of a 300 than a 95, with a single 40-character LCD line).
In the mid-80's there was also a "daughter product" to the 75, called
the HP 71 (code name "Titan", the 75 was "Kangaroo", and the 85 was
"Capricorn").  The 71 was a smaller, closer to calculator size
product.  All of them had a flavor of "Corvallis Basic" in ROM.  Then,
of course, in the mid-80's there was also the Portable (HP 110) and
The Portable Plus (HP 111?) MS-DOS computers, closer to what we think
of as notebook computers today.  (Their was also a Unix "portable
sewing machine" computer, but I think that's best ignored... :-)

So, the Corvallis division had quite a bit of history with small and
portable computers, and the 300 project grew out of that continuing
interest.  It was the 300 project team, of course, which formed the
core of the new "laptop computer division" that was created when
the calculators and palmtops were exported to Singapore.

I'm afraid I don't have much else in the way of stories to tell about
the 300.  You're pretty tightly focussed on your own project in an
environment like that.

Everett

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Daniel wrote...
DH> finally, we know at least one of the people displayed by the "Lair of
DH> Squid" game's gallery easter-egg. :-)

:-) That was a lot of fun doing that.  The early digital cameras had
just come out, and someone had bought one (gray-scale, REALLY low
resolution), and we got the idea to include our pictures.  Of course,
we couldn't put them in the product in anything close to an official
way, and we couldn't have put them in (probably) if anyone had even
known about it.  So, Andy came up with the idea of putting them in
his Squid game, so we ran around the project "bay" taking pictures
of everyone.  Our poor project manager (Eric Evett) didn't have a
clue why we snuck up, said, "Hey, Eric" and snapped his pic when
he looked up.  Of course, storage (ROM) was at a premium, so the
pictures had to be "downgraded" to the almost unrecognizable point
so that they wouldn't take up much space.  Fun, none-the-less.

A side story: I had originally included a couple of screens hidden
in Hearts & Bones that had the names of just about everyone that
worked on the 95LX projects at Corvallis.  Everything was
fine until, close to the end of the project, someone stumbled on
a secret screen that the Lotus team had included in the System
Manager code that listed the Lotus team members, and basically was
written in such a way that claimed the entire product was invented
by the head guy at Lotus.  Needless to say, this didn't sit well
with the HP management (not to mention all of the engineers), and
Lotus was told in no uncertain terms that the screen WOULD be
removed.  Unfortunately, I then had to admit to Eric that I had
an "HP credits" in H&B, and after consideration with his managers
was told it too had to go.  We didn't say anything about the
Squid "gallery" until after the 200LX was released, as Squid
wasn't an official part of the product, and it was only going to
be included as long as there was space in the ROM anyway, which
there wasn't in one or two of the localizations.

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I just read on the HP48 newsgroup that both the HP48 and HP49 have
been discontinued.  So, even though it's been over for a while, I
guess it's finally over now.

The fat lady has sung.  And a fine performance it was.

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> "Batson, Dale N" wrote:
> 3. Highlight every name and add to "BCC"
> 4. Copy this message, enter subject and paste to email, and send

Which is a nice proof that there are comuter viruses around not limited
to silicon or even even GaAs substrates but able to utilizes carbon
based CPUs running totally incompatible operating systems. Who said
versatility among programmers was dead?

There is one point though:
Just in case this was true:
Jacques Belin wrote:
> This time, it is a real virus.

Is there any way to tell it apart from the correct file. A have to admit
that using the DOS window I have moved the file to a secure place
temporily.
Note: Windows tracks moving and renaming and resets references
appropriately. One place where this is apparent was my replacing notepad
with an improved sunbstitute. Renaming the original and copying in the
replacement has to be done in DOS to work.

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Then I'm glad I already got one :)

but even the hp49? it wasn't even that old... the hp48 has served a quite
long time but the 49 is still in it's early years...

too bad...these are fine products.... :(


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> I just read on the HP48 newsgroup that both the HP48 and HP49 have
> been discontinued.  So, even though it's been over for a while, I
> guess it's finally over now.
>
> The fat lady has sung.  And a fine performance it was.
>
> Barry
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On Wed,  8 Jan 2003 00:15:20 +0100, Jacques Belin wrote:

> Two French HP200lx have been placed on e-bay at the same time :
>
> http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1949663772
> http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1949583403
>
> When I think I waited several months before to find another HP200lx
> after mine was stolen, it is a strange coincidence...
>
> Anyway, I must pass my turn for these, then if anybody is interrested...

Do you have the serial no. on the one that was stolen?

Would have been fun to get it back..

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On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Barry wrote:

> I just read on the HP48 newsgroup that both the HP48 and HP49 have
> been discontinued.  So, even though it's been over for a while, I
> guess it's finally over now.

Same for the best products of HP: HP42S, 32S, 15C, 16C, 28S, ... They
basically stopped all their RPN calculator lines, except the HP12C (great
machine, I should buy one some day).

Hopefully, I already have some of them (15C, 16C, 42S, 48SX, 48GX, 49G).

What remains are the poor algebraic 10BII, 17B, 30S, and some new models,
9S, 9B, and probably other ones, all algebraic. It's sad for all RPN
lovers... :(

Those of you who would like to buy an HP49G or an HP48GX should do it
fast, as the prices of the HP calcs can get very high on ebay. For
example, a few months ago, I finally got an HP16C for about $25 offline,
and during the same week, someone bought one for $842 on ebay.

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> For
> example, a few months ago, I finally got an HP16C for about $25 offline,
> and during the same week, someone bought one for $842 on ebay.
>

I don't really think he got yours but if so you would have made a good deal
<g>

jup, it's sad all the good stuff is being discontinued :(


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On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Feldman, Robert wrote:

> Anyone know what the word "Secret" (which occurs shortly after the Borland
> C++ Copyright 1991 notice and before "GALLERY", at 21F1:2DF0 in my Bebug
> dump) is there for?

First, I made an error in the magic word of the french version. It's not
'GALERIE', but 'GALLERIE', beside the fact that 'GALERIE' is the correct
translation.

Second, the french version of the MAZE.EXE file is compressed by Diet
(that what UNP told me), so you can't find the word using DEBUG. I don't
know if that's the case with other 'verbose' languages, such as German.

Third, the word 'Secret' that you found is the phrase that is displayed
when you want to open the door to go to the next level. In the french
version, it is 'Secret Code?'.

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>THANKS!
>The word on German maze.exes is "siegergalerie".

>I will add that to the palmtop.net/creators.html page
>soon.

>Any other languages available?

>daniel

Hi Daniel,

Spanish Palmtops will show the pictures if you type:

"galeria" which of course means gallery in spanish.

Cheers,

Inigo



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Hi everybody,

My palmtop started to complain about a low backup
battery. When I replaced the battery with a brand new
one it continued to complain! Using Lxpro will show
three "???" on the current voltage of the backup
battery. I am using a Panasonic CR 2032 3V battery. Is
this the correct battery? Has this happened to
somebody else? I have already tried rebooting and
draining all power from the palmtop with no avail.
Any ideas?

Thanks,

Inigo

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http://www.hoboes.com/html/FireBlade/Wilde/dorian/

Not off topic if you like html Ebooks on a PDA...  ;^>

I was forced to read this once ... It's one of my least favorite classics
but I'm a pretty dull, left-brained person so YMMV. I just can't understand
artists and their strange little ways :-/

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02m ....>> in the future <<.... ago Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota wrote:

> Spanish Palmtops will show the pictures if you type:
>
> "galeria" which of course means gallery in spanish.

Thanks, Inigo, I have added that to
http://www.palmtop.net/creators.html

daniel

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 I'm afraid I was having a "Senior moment". There
was no need for a new .NDB; the files are all .NDB files, but because I only
have one .NDB file with lots of notes, I think I was looking at Nathalie's
.NDBs as individual notes! My excuse is that I was tired and in a hurry - I
haven't quite lost my marbles :))

Anyway, the next time I looked at it I sorted it out. Initially, I  put the
Diseases d'base in my C:_dat directory with all the other stuff I have in
there. Then, as I realized how big Dr Nat's .NDBs are, I decided to leave
most
of them on my A drive which is a 160mb Sandisk CF. I left them in
A:\3health.dbs and just gave the directory path in the "File to Open" box of
Notetaker. For all practical purposes, it works just as fast as if it were
in C:\_dat.

There is a wealth of valuable information in Nathalie's Health d'bases. It's
like having a medical encyclopedia in your pocket. I wonder did they grow
out of her work in the hospital's A&E (E.R. in the USA) and does she often
use it there, or are there desktops with other online DBs for diagnosis etc.

The travel DBs are even bigger. I look forward to exploring them.

BTW, Curtis, I filed some valuable database tips you gave in May last. Many
thanks.

Richard



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> On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 22:07:11 -0000 Richard McEvoy wrote:
> >I have created an empty NDB file (calling it Health) as per page 8-6 of
the
> >User's guide. This is to take all of Dr. Nat's notes from her Health
D'base
> >and keep her GDB's separate. I cannot get it to load the notes which I
have
> >parked in a directory called Nathlth on A. First I tried putting them in
> >C:\_dat\health. When this didn't work, I tried the merge option,
highlighted
> >the directory in A where they all were and clicked OK, but this elicited
> >"File not found"
>
> What format are the notes in? Are they already in their own .NDB file
> or files? This is what the "merge" feature is for, but I get the
> impression that isn't what you have. It sounds like your notes are in
> various files in the c:\_dat\health directory. What format are they
> in?

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Hi Inigo:

The "printed" side (+) looks downwards I hope. You could try a self
test (ESC-ON) - but remove flash card or it will die.

Juan Pedro

>         Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota schrieb/=E9crivait/wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> My palmtop started to complain about a low backup
> battery. When I replaced the battery with a brand new
> one it continued to complain! Using Lxpro will show
> three "???" on the current voltage of the backup
> battery. I am using a Panasonic CR 2032 3V battery. Is
> this the correct battery? Has this happened to
> somebody else? I have already tried rebooting and
> draining all power from the palmtop with no avail.
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Inigo
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Jacques,

When you say "this time", does that mean you are aware that this was a ho=
ax
going the rounds last year?

At that time I had great difficulty persuading acquaintances to stop
deleting the Windows jdbgmrg.exe file unnecessarily. The W32.recory that =
you
refer to is not the one that Dale is worried about; he is talking about l=
ast
year's hoax. Or do you know something about this that I don't? :))

Richard




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Le Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:15:10 -0500
"Paul Anderson@Systems-Consulting" <Sales@SYSTEMS-CONSULTING.COM> a =E9cr=
it:

> You may want to check out
http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/HoaxBustersHome.html

This time, it is a real virus.

It as been mentionned in the last Trendmicro newsletter, a few days ago.

You can find more info at :

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=3DWORM_RE=
CORY.
A
  and
  http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.recory@mm.h=
tml

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Can HP Connectivity Pack be installed and will it work under Windows XP?
If you know, will you post your experiences, please.
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<<and it was only going to be included as long as there was space in the
ROM anyway, which there wasn't in one or two of the localizations.
Everett>>

One thing I REALLY thought was great from the Corvallis team -- and a
total surprise:  Our 800 phone number (Thaddeus Computing, The HP
Palmtop Paper) is in ROM in the default phone book.  We had a company
celebration when that was discovered.

I feel good that almost 10 years later, that the confidence was
justified and the phone number is still valid.=20

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I have Connectivity Pack running on my HP Omnibook XE3 under Windows XP. It
will only work in full screen. No special installation, as I recall. No
compatibility adjustment either. I don't think a cable connection with the
200LX will work however. But I never bothered to find out. Swapping files
with my memory card works fine.

Lillebjorn Nilsen, Oslo Norway
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> Can HP Connectivity Pack be installed and will it work under Windows XP?
> If you know, will you post your experiences, please.
> Bill
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Le Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:28:42 -0800
Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM> a =E9crit:

> Do you have the serial no. on the one that was stolen?

Unfortunately, I always omited to note the full serial number. But I
allways remembered the date of manufacturing, which would made
sufficient, given the fact that there are some other distinctive signs...
=20
> Would have been fun to get it back..

Unfortunately, I can say that my HP is not one of theses units, as I had
a 1MB and they are both 2MB... :-(

Anyway, I don't have really hope about to re-see it, as I think it is
probably in a trash can since a long time... i.e. as soon as the vendor
(or the new owner) would have cleaned uninteresting files, among them an
"spd31.sys" file (the doublespeed driver), and rebooted the machine....


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Le Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:34:08 -0000
Richard McEvoy <remce@GOFREE.INDIGO.IE> a =E9crit:

> Jacques,
>=20
> When you say "this time", does that mean you are aware that this was a =
hoax
> going the rounds last year?

In fact, I not thought about this particular hoax, but about all of this
kind of hoaxes, that come last years...

It was only after that I realized that there is one interesting thing
with this new virus : an Hoax become true.

> At that time I had great difficulty persuading acquaintances to stop
> deleting the Windows jdbgmrg.exe file unnecessarily.=20

Beware : you have typed "jdbgmrg.exe" in place of "jdbgmgr.exe", which
is the real name of the virus and the regular file.
And for your information "jdbgmrg.exe" is another virus ("Poldo")
released in october.
(Damned... <g>)

> The W32.recory that you
> refer to is not the one that Dale is worried about; he is talking about=
 last
> year's hoax. Or do you know something about this that I don't? :))

Dale is talking about an hoax, I talk about a new (real) virus (remember
what I said, the virus is dated last week by anti-virus companies, not
last year).
Then, we are both correct...

But :

- Imagine somebody infected by the virus. He will not search about
  the truth of the message, and delete the file. OK, problem resolved.
  He will resend the message to all his friends, good point. But some of
  them will delete a virus, others will delete a regular file...
 =20
- Imagine somebody not infected by the virus. He will not search about
  the truth of the message, and delete the file. Well, not very a big
  problem... But he will resent the message to all his friends....

- Imagine somebody infected by the virus, receiving the message and
  trying to verify if it is an hoax, searching in google about
  "jdbgmrg.exe virus" (see I don't even search about "jdbgmrg.exe hoax".
  He will find only informations about a hoax (I just tried that, will
  see what google will say in a few days...) : "Bah, it is an hoax, my
  machine is clean". And after that, he will send the virus to all his
  friends...

- Imagine somebody not infected by the virus, receiving the message and
  trying to verify if it is an hoax, searching in google. With the same
  results. "Bah, it is an hoax, my machine is clean". OK.
 =20
Four situations, three being a winner for the virus coder (even if he
has not spread his virus, he has propagated a destructive information).
(Subsidiary question : continue the analysis, dealing about the fact
that google will, step by step, change from an hoax result to a virus
one...)

Now, imagine how we will have to deal about all messages we will receive
next days (somebody has already tried to send one on a mailing list I
manage..), and explain that it is an hoax _and_ a virus. That the user
has perhaps been affected by the virus (how could we know, as he had
deleted the file, and he is too dumb to go to the registery to find
infection traces) and perhaps not (he has been affected by the hoax),
and that he must not resent this alert (i.e. this poorly written message,
which is based around a file name, but not mentions any other
discriminating information : size, file date, i don't know what would be
relevant), because in any case he risks to make more damages to others....

Damned...


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Le Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:40:21 +0100
Erwann ABALEA <erwann@ABALEA.COM> a =E9crit:

> They
> basically stopped all their RPN calculator lines, except the HP12C

This one is an unknown legend. Withont any doubt the longest
manufacturing period for a calculator, and even perhaps for 99.9999% of
any others manufactured electronic systems...

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Le Wed, 8 Jan 2003 16:48:08 -0600
Hal Goldstein <Hal@THADDEUS.COM> a =E9crit:

> Our 800 phone number (Thaddeus Computing, The HP
> Palmtop Paper) is in ROM in the default phone book.=20

Everett, now the bag is open, I think you should now make some others
confessions to newcomers...

About some strange locations in the WorldTime database, for example....

Or about some poetry in the test routines....

;-)

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> Then I'm glad I already got one :)
>
> but even the hp49? it wasn't even that old... the hp48 has served
a quite
> long time but the 49 is still in it's early years...
>
> too bad...these are fine products.... :(

I think the HP49 was actually discontinued a few months ago.  I'm a
little confused about that but I think they were still making the
48 and just discontinued that.

I know the 49 development team was broken up about a year ago so
there would be no more development of the firmware.  Although the
developers are mostly on comp.sys.hp48 and are still doing "beta"
upgrades.  They claim that HP has agreed to make the firmware open
source starting in 2003 so who knows where that'll go.

Just think!  If the 200lx used flash BIOS!

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> Second, the french version of the MAZE.EXE file is compressed by
Diet
> (that what UNP told me), so you can't find the word using DEBUG.
I don't
> know if that's the case with other 'verbose' languages, such as
German.

Isn't Diet that program that compresses and de-compresses
automatically on the fly, probably hooking int 21h?   If so, and if
Debug won't do it because it does it's own file I/O (does it? I
don't think so) there are a lot of other debuggers that use
dos/bios I/O and won't have that problem.

But I don't think Debug should have that problem either.

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>I have Connectivity Pack running on my HP Omnibook XE3 under Windows XP. It
>will only work in full screen. No special installation, as I recall. No
>compatibility adjustment either. I don't think a cable connection with the
>200LX will work however. But I never bothered to find out. Swapping files
>with my memory card works fine.

My 200LX will link using transfile on XP I know, but I havent tried the
connectivity pack.

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CHECK WEB PAGE AGAIN BEFORE SENDINF!!!

On 2003-01-07, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Also some added datapoints to the storage card table on
> the 200LX page.
>
> http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/index_pt.shtml
> (under "technical Information about the palmtops")

Thanks for the update. I just noticed that you missed two memory
cards, Avi had mentioned in the past few months:

One was a Sundisk 440 Mb CF card (manufactured around 1996 - 1997),
which required the ACECARD driver to work in the HP 200LX (which
BIOS version? DS?), another was a MemoryTechnologies (Denmark)
512 Mb ATA card, which, according to him, astonishingly worked
without the driver. Avi, is this correct?

Greetings,

 Matthias

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On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Barry wrote:

> From: "Erwann ABALEA" <erwann@ABALEA.COM>
> > Second, the french version of the MAZE.EXE file is compressed by
> Diet
> > (that what UNP told me), so you can't find the word using DEBUG.
> I don't
> > know if that's the case with other 'verbose' languages, such as
> German.
>
> Isn't Diet that program that compresses and de-compresses
> automatically on the fly, probably hooking int 21h?   If so, and if

You can either load the Diet software in memory, and yes, it will hook the
int 21h to decompress and recompress files on the fly, or you can use Diet
to compress executable files and place a stub to uncompress it when it is
executed, just like PkLite and LZExe do.

I don't have Diet resident in memory (as I don't really trust it, having
some bad experience with it), so executable files are only uncompressed
when executed (and when the stub in included).

> Debug won't do it because it does it's own file I/O (does it? I
> don't think so) there are a lot of other debuggers that use
> dos/bios I/O and won't have that problem.
>
> But I don't think Debug should have that problem either.

No, Debug didn't uncompress it because there's no Diet in memory, and
because Debug doesn't execute the file, it only reads it.

Maybe I should try loading the file into Debug while Diet is resident in
memory. Maybe Diet will uncompress the file on the fly so that Debug sees
the uncompressed version, without the stub. I'll try...

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Hi,

on http://www.volny.cz/zampach/wfx_hplx.zip is new beta 4 version of
Total Commander FS plugin (probably the last beta)

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On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Erwann ABALEA wrote:

> Maybe I should try loading the file into Debug while Diet is resident in
> memory. Maybe Diet will uncompress the file on the fly so that Debug sees
> the uncompressed version, without the stub. I'll try...

I tried it, and yes, it works as expected. When Diet is loaded as a TSR,
you can either read the MAZE.EXE with Debug or any other utility (Debug is
not particular in that way, it doesn't use special I/O functions), and
you'll have the uncompressed version. After all, that is exactly the
purpose of loading Diet as a TSR.

I mentioned the fact that MAZE.EXE was compressed in ROM because some
people might want to search the 'magic word' by themself using Debug as
described, and would fail. Another reason explaining this mention is that
I haven't noticed it before. Maybe other programs are compressed too...

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On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Jacques Belin wrote:

> Le Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:40:21 +0100
> Erwann ABALEA <erwann@ABALEA.COM> a =E9crit:
>
> > They
> > basically stopped all their RPN calculator lines, except the HP12C
>
> This one is an unknown legend. Withont any doubt the longest
> manufacturing period for a calculator, and even perhaps for 99.9999% of
> any others manufactured electronic systems...

The Pionner series (all the HP 1x fall into this category) calculators ar=
e
the less power hungry machines I know... Some of them have had the same
batteries lasting for more than 15 *years*... Add to this the robust
design of these machines and their precision, and you have the best
calculators...

Unfortunately, HP didn't follow the same design rules, and their last
products (including the HP49) don't have the same quality... :(

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On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Niels wrote:

> > For
> > example, a few months ago, I finally got an HP16C for about $25 offline,
> > and during the same week, someone bought one for $842 on ebay.
> >
>
> I don't really think he got yours but if so you would have made a good deal
> <g>

I didn't sell it, I bought it to have one. The HP16C is the only
calculator of its kind I know of.

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On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Erwann ABALEA wrote:

> The Pionner series (all the HP 1x fall into this category) calculators are

Correction. The Pioneer series include the following: HP10C, 11C, 12C, 15C
and 16C only.

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Speaking of RPN calculators..... If anyone
wants one, I have a 48GX which is about 3
months old.  I'd like to swap for a 42S, if
someone's willling to part with one.

Best

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Hello,

Will MS DOS 6.0 for DOS run on my HP200LX or
was 5.0 the last one that would work?

Thanks,

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On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Bill Sprague wrote:

> Will MS DOS 6.0 for DOS run on my HP200LX or
> was 5.0 the last one that would work?

I'm sure the 5.5 one will work on your HP200, and I'll bet the 6.0 one
will work too.

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Hi all!

I've sent my 200LX off for repairs and am limping
along on my old 100LX in the meantime.  Thanks
again for all your suggestions.

I saw mention of the Lair of Squid  game.  Does
anyone know how many levels the game has?
I managed once to get up to level 60 before
getting bored with it.

Thanks again!

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Bill,

Word 6.0/DOS works fine on the 200LX.  I have it on my LX and use it
regularly.

Martin G. Ramirez


At 08:06 am 1/9/2003 -0800, you wrote:



Hello,

Will MS DOS 6.0 for DOS run on my HP200LX or
was 5.0 the last one that would work?

Thanks,

Bill

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Bill, <br><br>
Word 6.0/DOS works fine on the 200LX.&nbsp; I have it on my LX and use it
regularly.<br><br>
Martin G. Ramirez <br><br>
<br>
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<font size=2>Will MS DOS 6.0 for DOS run on my HP200LX or</font> <br>
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Jacques wrote...
JB> Everett, now the bag is open, I think you should now make some others
JB> confessions to newcomers...

JB> About some strange locations in the WorldTime database, for example....
JB> Or about some poetry in the test routines....

:-) Andy Gryc, the programmer responsible for that app, included
cities from most of the countries around the world in the various
time zones, but he also went around to each of the other team members
and asked them for ONE city that they'd like to have included.  Mine
was Silverton, Oregon (my home town).

As for the poems, I was in charge of the self-test code for all three
of the machines (95/100/200), and needed a screen of text for
"readability testing."  I've always been one to have fun whenever
possible, so I made up the limerick in the 95LX self-test.  I was
actually surprised when the managers never said a word about changing
it to something less....frivolous. :-)

There once was this thing from HP
That fit in your pocket, you see.
  A caveman would stare
  And pull out his hair
And wonder, "What could this thing be?"

Everett

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Barry wrote...
B> Isn't Diet that program that compresses and de-compresses
B> automatically on the fly, probably hooking int 21h?

It may have done that also, but the way it was used here is to
compress the EXE and add a chunk of "self-extraction" code onto
the front (similar to modern self-extracting ZIP files).  So, no
INT 21h hook in this case.  You'd have to use the DIET utility to
UNcompress the file (if that's possible) in order to look at it.

Everett

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At 1/9/03-10:06 AM, eugarps@ATTGLOBAL.NET wrote:
>Will MS DOS 6.0 for DOS run on my HP200LX or was 5.0 the last one that
>would work?

Bill:

I have MS Word 5.5 for DOS on the Palmtop and it is fine. I believe 6 may
work too, but I never tried it, because I do not own a copy to try.

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I just checked the Symantec site
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file.hoa
x.html It gives:-

"This is a hoax that, like the SULFNBK.EXE Warning hoax, tries to persuade
you to delete a legitimate Windows file from your computer. The file that
the hoax refers to, Jdbgmgr.exe, is the Microsoft Debugger Registrar for
Java. It may be installed when you install Windows.

NOTE: Recent version of this hoax take advantage of the recent outbreak of
the W32.bugbear@mm worm, and the fact that the Jdbgmgr.exe file that is
mentioned in the hoax has a bear icon. The actual W32.bugbear@mm worm file
is an .exe file and does not have a bear icon.

The Windows Jdbgmgr.exe file has a teddy bear icon as described in the hoax:



CAUTION: Jdbgmgr.exe, like any file, can become infected by a virus. One
virus in particular, W32.Efortune.31384@mm, targets this file. Norton
AntiVirus has provided protection against W32.Efortune.31384@mm since May
11, 2001.

NOTE: If you have already deleted the Jdbgmgr.exe file, in most cases, you
do not have to reinstall it. The following is quoted from the Microsoft
Knowledge Base article Virus Hoax: Microsoft Debugger Registrar for Java
(Jdbgmgr.exe) Is Not a Virus (Q322993):"


  "The Microsoft Debugger Registrar for Java (Jdbgmgr.exe) is only used by
Microsoft Visual J++ 1.1 developers.
  AND
  http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/HoaxBustersHome.html has the following:-


  "The jdbgmgr hoax is almost the same as the sulfnbk hoax in that it tells
you to delete a program that was installed with Windows. jdbmgr.exe is the
Java Debugger Manager and does have an icon that looks like a Teddy Bear. It
is not, normally, a virus. As with all executables, it is not impossible to
have a copy of jdbmgr.exe that is infected by a virus but that virus will be
detected by your antivirus software.Microsoft has posted the article Q322993
with information on how to replace jdbgmgr.exe if you have deleted it. "

  Richard

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It was only after that I realized that there is one interesting thing
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> The Pionner series (all the HP 1x fall into this category) calculators
> are the less power hungry machines I know... Some of them have had the
> same batteries lasting for more than 15 *years*... Add to this the
> robust design of these machines and their precision, and you have the
> best calculators...
>
> Unfortunately, HP didn't follow the same design rules, and their last
> products (including the HP49) don't have the same quality... :(

I think you mean the Voyager. The Pioneers are the 32S 32Sii, 42S, 17Bii,
20S, 27S and a couple et ceteras. which have similar battery lifetimes,
but a more vertical format keyboard- some also have Infrared output (alas,
no working input yet, though someone is working on an upgrade).

the 42S is the absolute pinnacle of the Pioneers- fully programmable
(compatible codewise with the 41c/cv/cx kalkulatoj) though it only has 8k
of ram.... of course, mine have 32k(!!!!) now thanks to the upgrade
efforts of some very good hackers over at the museum of hp computing.

the 15c or 16c would be the top machines of the Voyager series, depending
on use, but the 12c is nothing to sneeze at. still a fantastic
programmable for lighter programming (unlike the text editor I'm working
on for the 42S, for example). The 12C has the advantage of being available
still.

the 20s, by the way, is recently discontinued and in many cases cna be
found in the older high quality version (box instead of blisterpack
packaging) really cheaply. it's algebraic instead of rpn, but it's really
the best programmable you will ever buy for under $35 US.

okay, it is the ONLY true programmable you will ever buy for that price new.

I should stop infodumping now and go finish my program.....

-Christof


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11h49m ago Avi Meshar wrote:

> I have MS Word 5.5 for DOS on the Palmtop and it is fine. I believe 6 may
> work too, but I never tried it, because I do not own a copy to try.

The good thing about Word 6.0 is that it supports the Windows True Type
fonts. I have tried it once on the palmtop, and it worked fine.

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Hi all,

Have a look here...

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/103340_vulcan09.shtml

Look at the large picture and the keyboard is reminescent of the 200LC, sans
the numeric keypad. :-)

Oh, only 4 hours battery time though... :-( Now, if only one could remove the
HDD and plug inn a bootable flash memory card and there were MS-DOS
drivers...:-)

br

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Nice!

still, 4 hours will be quite sufficient for a day or 2. Just have to
remember to recharge it (which I tend to forget using the lx and thus run
out of batterys every 2 or 3 weeks ... :) since my batterycover is broke I
glued it in place which is quite impratical for changing batteries <grin>)
At least, it's waaaaay better than a CE machine for it is ibm-compatible
like the greatest palmtop ever made :)
Still... a lot of money then... $1200-1500.. but if you want an upgraded
like-new 200lx from taddeus you'll be spending a lot of money as wel.

Hmmm. I like it :)


Niels


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Subject: 200LX replacement candidate?


> Hi all,
>
> Have a look here...
>
> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/103340_vulcan09.shtml
>
> Look at the large picture and the keyboard is reminescent of the 200LC,
sans
> the numeric keypad. :-)
>
> Oh, only 4 hours battery time though... :-( Now, if only one could remove
the
> HDD and plug inn a bootable flash memory card and there were MS-DOS
> drivers...:-)
>
> br
>
> Franklin
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I bought several Hitachi LMG6780XNFR
640x200 LCD
displays from a swapmeet near Corvallis Or.
They look just like the pictures I found on the super site
for the HP200-LX.
Would be nice to use them in PIC projects.
They have 18 i/o pins and I don't have the foggiest how to
hook them up and command them.
Best I've been able to do is stuff a clock in one of the pins
and scroll light and dark horizontal lines up the screen.

Is there any available information on the pinout or command set
for these modules?  Hitachi is mum on the subject.

These displays have the controller chips on the lcd side, and  they're
chip on board covered with goop.  If I knew the controller chip type,
I might be able to make some headway.  The pictures on the super site
show packaged chips on the outside with numbers. but they're not
readable.
Anybody got a loose
display hanging around they could read the numbers?

Ideas?
Thanks,
mike

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Le Fri, 10 Jan 2003 01:06:42 -0000
Richard McEvoy <remce@GOFREE.INDIGO.IE> a =E9crit:

> I just checked the Symantec site
> http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.fil=
e.hoa
> x.html It gives:-
>=20
> "This is a hoax=20

I assume you have searched about the name of the file, and seen only the
message about the hoax. But you have not seen the page about the new viru=
s.
Then you claim "it is an hoax", without realize that it is an hoax=20
_and now_ a real virus.
It is a perfect example about what I said in my last message...

Then, I invite you to retur to the page you pointed, and see the date of
the page :
"Last Updated on: November 21, 2002 10:24:24 AM"

Now, in the same site, go to the see the page :
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.recory@mm.htm=
l
"Discovered on: December 31, 2002=20
 Last Updated on: January 04, 2003 02:33:39 PM"

You will see that it concerns a virus transmitting itself using a
message containg the text of the hoax....
And that the Jdbgmgr.exe file is one of the files which could be
overwritten by the virus code...

Do you understand the situation now ?

I think symantec should definitely make some update on the first page to
tell to users that the situation about this hoax has slightly changed...


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Hi Michael

03m ago Michael R Goodwin wrote:

> I bought several Hitachi LMG6780XNFR
> 640x200 LCD
> displays from a swapmeet near Corvallis Or.
> They look just like the pictures I found on the super site
> for the HP200-LX.

Do you have a source for more of them?

> Would be nice to use them in PIC projects.

If they are really the same as those in the LX, couldn't you use other
screens for your projects and let the LX community have the screens as
replacements? The screen is not that easy to get as a replacement part.

> They have 18 i/o pins and I don't have the foggiest how to
> hook them up and command them.
> Best I've been able to do is stuff a clock in one of the pins
> and scroll light and dark horizontal lines up the screen.
>
> Is there any available information on the pinout or command set
> for these modules?  Hitachi is mum on the subject.

Not that I know of.

> These displays have the controller chips on the lcd side, and  they're
> chip on board covered with goop.  If I knew the controller chip type,

Some LXs have indeed displays with chip-on-board on the LCD side...

> I might be able to make some headway.  The pictures on the super site
> show packaged chips on the outside with numbers. but they're not
> readable.
> Anybody got a loose
> display hanging around they could read the numbers?

Not at the moment, when I get home I can look (in 12 hours maybe...),
but have a look at http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair and
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/backlight/install
maybe you can read chip numbers there, don't know.

daniel

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And did you also write the other two poems?

This one appears in the 100LX and 200LX:

     Felis Concolor

=A0=A0=A0=A0 A funny thing happened on the way to the forum
=A0=A0=A0=A0 When I encountered a group in search of a quorum.
=A0=A0=A0=A0 They came from a city. The Burg On The Wire,
=A0=A0=A0=A0 If I tried To describe it you'd call me a liar.
=A0=A0=A0=A0 They wanted to charge me a really quite large fee
=A0=A0=A0=A0 For the dubious pleasure of sharing their treasure.
=A0=A0=A0=A0 "I'm a very Good man (Mark my words if you can),"
=A0=A0=A0=A0 "But, the Dickens, I say, I simply won't pay!"
=A0=A0=A0=A0 And with poetry, then, I proceeded to bore 'em
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Then preceded myself on my way to the Forum.

This one appears in the 200LX only:

     Nine lives has a Cat, and each Cat a name.
=A0=A0=A0=A0 All of them different, none are the same.
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Jaguar was the first, it made quite a roar.
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Cougar was next, oh, how it did soar.
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Felix is third, my heart it does quicken,
=A0=A0=A0=A0 knows what comes next, the clock is a tickin'.

> As for the poems, I was in charge of the self-test code for all three=

> of the machines (95/100/200), and needed a screen of text for
> "readability testing."  I've always been one to have fun whenever
> possible, so I made up the limerick in the 95LX self-test.  I was
> actually surprised when the managers never said a word about changing=

> it to something less....frivolous. :-)
>
> There once was this thing from HP
> That fit in your pocket, you see.
  > A caveman would stare
  > And pull out his hair
> And wonder, "What could this thing be?"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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afaik there are 2 types of lcd's in use for the 200lx's
one with the chips on the display side (like yours) and one with the chips
on the other side.
As Daniel made out this is a display used in the 200lx I espect it to behave
the same way as the other display.
I have the other one here, ( a LMG6786XNFR, its 86 and not 80) and I see the
following chips:
    8 times a HD 66284BTF, in the upper right (what is the upper right in a
square?) it says 5C4
    2 times a BD 66285BTF, which reads 5D4 in the upper right.
these are about 1.4 by 1.4 cm
    1  M53AD LP324M in the center, it is really small.
I am an absolute electonic-n00b so this really does not tell me anything but
maybe it is of any use for you.

I am planning to take hi-res images of the inner guts of the 700lx this
weekend including the display so hold on :)


As Daniel said, I would suggest you to keep those displays in case anyone on
the list might need one and use other displays for your projects since these
displays are a little rare nowadays (unless you have some _big_ source :D).
Probably you can sell the displays among the list and with the money buy
other displays which would serve you well.


Niels



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To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 12:31 PM
Subject: TECH HP100/200/95-lx display pinout and commands?


> I bought several Hitachi LMG6780XNFR
> 640x200 LCD
> displays from a swapmeet near Corvallis Or.
> They look just like the pictures I found on the super site
> for the HP200-LX.
> Would be nice to use them in PIC projects.
> They have 18 i/o pins and I don't have the foggiest how to
> hook them up and command them.
> Best I've been able to do is stuff a clock in one of the pins
> and scroll light and dark horizontal lines up the screen.
>
> Is there any available information on the pinout or command set
> for these modules?  Hitachi is mum on the subject.
>
> These displays have the controller chips on the lcd side, and  they're
> chip on board covered with goop.  If I knew the controller chip type,
> I might be able to make some headway.  The pictures on the super site
> show packaged chips on the outside with numbers. but they're not
> readable.
> Anybody got a loose
> display hanging around they could read the numbers?
>
> Ideas?
> Thanks,
> mike
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On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:50:32 +0200 Daniel Hertrich
<daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> writes:
> Hi Michael
>
> 03m ago Michael R Goodwin wrote:
>
> > I bought several Hitachi LMG6780XNFR
> > 640x200 LCD
> > displays from a swapmeet near Corvallis Or.
> > They look just like the pictures I found on the super site
> > for the HP200-LX.
>
> Do you have a source for more of them?

Nope,  I have five new ones and one that I've taken apart, put
back together. and soldered on the interface connector.

>
> > Would be nice to use them in PIC projects.
>
> If they are really the same as those in the LX, couldn't you use
> other
> screens for your projects and let the LX community have the screens
> as
> replacements? The screen is not that easy to get as a replacement
> part.

Part number is  LMG6780XNFR.
Perhaps you can tell which machine they go with.

I don't have any problem at all letting the LX community have them.
How would I tell the difference between someone who really needs
one and someone who wanted to buy them cheap and resell the scarce
commodity on ebay?  If anybody's gonna make a buck,
it might as well be me. ;-)

These are still in their original plastic sack, but I have no way to test
them.

So, if someone were to make an offer...

>
> > They have 18 i/o pins and I don't have the foggiest how to
> > hook them up and command them.
> > Best I've been able to do is stuff a clock in one of the pins
> > and scroll light and dark horizontal lines up the screen.
> >
> > Is there any available information on the pinout or command set
> > for these modules?  Hitachi is mum on the subject.
>
> Not that I know of.
>
> > These displays have the controller chips on the lcd side, and
> they're
> > chip on board covered with goop.  If I knew the controller chip
> type,
>
> Some LXs have indeed displays with chip-on-board on the LCD side...
>
> > I might be able to make some headway.  The pictures on the super
> site
> > show packaged chips on the outside with numbers. but they're not
> > readable.
> > Anybody got a loose
> > display hanging around they could read the numbers?
>
> Not at the moment, when I get home I can look (in 12 hours maybe...),
> but have a look at http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair and
> http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/backlight/install
> maybe you can read chip numbers there, don't know.

Thanks for the pointer.  Chip number is blurry, looks like 66204. These
look like
line drivers.  Is the main controller different?   I'll search
for that number and see what comes up.

mike
>
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>
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Hi Niels

20m ....>> in the future <<.... ago Niels wrote:

> I have the other one here, ( a LMG6786XNFR, its 86 and not 80) and I see the
> following chips:

Well, on my page http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair I can see the
number of _my_ screen which has the chips on the LCD side seems to be
...82...
So this part of the number doesn't seem to tell anything which is very
important for usage in an LX. :-)

Really, if these displays Michael got are screens we can use as
replacements for the LX, he should keep them! Or sell them, as you
suggested!

daniel


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Subject:      Re: 200LX replacement candidate?
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I've always found the stated battery life to be almost exactly double what
the real life is. So I would expect this to have a two hour or so battery
life. not quite in the 200LX league!

At 10:50 AM 1/10/03 +0100, Niels wrote:
>Nice!
>
>still, 4 hours will be quite sufficient for a day or 2. Just have to
>remember to recharge it (which I tend to forget using the lx and thus run
>out of batterys every 2 or 3 weeks ... :) since my batterycover is broke I
>glued it in place which is quite impratical for changing batteries <grin>)
>At least, it's waaaaay better than a CE machine for it is ibm-compatible
>like the greatest palmtop ever made :)
>Still... a lot of money then... $1200-1500.. but if you want an upgraded
>like-new 200lx from taddeus you'll be spending a lot of money as wel.
>
>Hmmm. I like it :)
>
>
>Niels
>
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Franklin Eekhout" <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
>To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 9:01 AM
>Subject: 200LX replacement candidate?
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Have a look here...
> >
> > http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/103340_vulcan09.shtml
> >
> > Look at the large picture and the keyboard is reminescent of the 200LC,
>sans
> > the numeric keypad. :-)
> >
> > Oh, only 4 hours battery time though... :-( Now, if only one could remove
>the
> > HDD and plug inn a bootable flash memory card and there were MS-DOS
> > drivers...:-)
> >
> > br
> >
> > Franklin
> >
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Le Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:15:20 +0100
Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG> a =E9crit:

> Two French HP200lx have been placed on e-bay at the same time :

Well, the first of them is gone at 451 euros !!!=20

The second sale will finish in less than two hours,=20
Interresting things to note :=20
- the main bidder of this second sale is the looser of the first sale....=
=20
- the third bidder of the first sale abandonned at 230 euros..

Then, if you want to see some live sport (<g>), go to=20
   http://cgi6.ebay.fr/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=3D1949663772 ...

( In any case it is definitely not today that I will get my backup HP200.=
..
:-( )

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after rebate, that is...

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10302882

I think the viking cards work in the LX but you need a CF adapter.

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Looking through old messages, both 5.5 and 6.0 will work on an
HP200LX.

I have installed Word 5.5 on a cf card. It runs but I haven't
done much with it.


Thomas G. Hess
tghess@Compuserve.com
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>
> On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Bill Sprague wrote:
>
> > Will MS DOS 6.0 for DOS run on my HP200LX or
> > was 5.0 the last one that would work?
>
> I'm sure the 5.5 one will work on your HP200, and I'll bet the
6.0 one
> will work too.
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Hi all,

I saw a computer graphic today that tickled the very EDGE of a memory....

Wasn't there a program for the LX (or maybe it was for PCs), that just dr=
ew=20
trees on the screen?

I remember something that generated random trees; then let you save the r=
esult=20
as a PCX file, if you thought the random art was "pretty" enough. I *thin=
k*=20
it was an LX program. I searched SUPER, but may not have used the proper=20
search terms....

So, am I losing my mind, or was there such a program ... OK, I could HAVE=
 the=20
program and still lose my mind <grin>, but am I remembering an LX program=
 and=20
does anyone know where it is?

The "graphic" that reminded me was at:

http://www.wideopenwest.com/~lipetz/TinyLogo/TinyLogo.htm

I was searching for a color version of "Mastermind" for the PalmOS and tr=
ipped=20
over that site... BTW, is "TinyLogo" worth anything to learn/play with an=
d=20
does it work on the LX?

TIA,

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On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Tim wrote:

> Wasn't there a program for the LX (or maybe it was for PCs), that just drew
> trees on the screen?
>
> I remember something that generated random trees; then let you save the result
> as a PCX file, if you thought the random art was "pretty" enough. I *think*
> it was an LX program. I searched SUPER, but may not have used the proper
> search terms....

I don't know where you can find the program, but maybe this is
what you were thinking of

http://www.palmtoppaper.com/ptphtml/22/pt220006.htm

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 10:31 PM
Subject: Don't laugh at me: "Tree drawings" on the LX?


> I was searching for a color version of "Mastermind" for the
PalmOS
> and tripped over that site... BTW, is "TinyLogo" worth anything
to
> learn/play with and does it work on the LX?

Logo is a programming language designed to be taught to kids.
Really little kids.  It includes something called a turtle that
leaves a trail and kids can learn to program the turtle's movements
and make patterns.

It also has some things for playing with words but I'm not very
familiar with them.  The turtle graphics are fun.  The language
basics can be learned in about 15 minutes and then they're fun.
Making a program to create a pattern can become a fascinating
puzzle.  And you get instant feedback.  You try something.  See the
results.  Make a change.  See the results, and so on.

Also, like Forth (a grown up language which is also fun) you write
programs by adding to the language.  You never really create
another program.  You just add to Logo until it does what you want
it to do.

The answer about Logo is a resounding yes, if you like thoughtful
play.

Tiny Logo is a Palm program.  There are some Logos that do work on
the LX at Super.  Although, I think Logo just might be more fun on
a Palm if you have one.

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I received spam today about some weight loss program. I was
about to hit the delete key when I noticed a lot of familiar
addresses. There were others, but about half were people on this
list. I was curious how they would come up with such a list, and
with a little searching I found the web page which was obviously
harvested for the addresses. The order of the addresses in the
headers is the same as they appear on the page.

http://www.palmtoppaper.com/ptphtml/52/hplxcnct.htm

I would be offended that the spammer would target this list as a
bunch of fat lazy people, but then it's hard to be offended by
low-life spammers.

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Date:         Sat, 11 Jan 2003 11:35:26 +0100
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Well, inspired by a newsgroup posting, I think I have a Wifi candidate for the
200LX... :-)

Take a Linksys WET11, make a 5V battery pack, and use your existing NIC. The
WET11 is a wireless bridge allowing you to connect to any AP. Its about the
size and weight of a 200LX, and say a similar sized rechargable battery pack,
maybe prismatic cells, velcroed or taped to the underneath. Problem is that it
is just web based, it seems, so it might not be configurable from the 200lx,
there is no mention of telneting to it. :-(

ftp://ftp.linksys.com/datasheet/wet11_ds.pdf

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Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 05:31 AM
Subject: Don't laugh at me: "Tree drawings" on the LX?

Hello,

There is xtree.zip, an ultrafast demo of something. It should be
on Super. If not, I probablyhave it somewhere, drop me a line.

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My HP200LX  DataComm application is stuck in double space mode.
I experiemented with all possible sequences of cr and lf.  I cannot get
less than
a double space out of it, so I lose half the area of the screen.

I'm using it as an interface to debug PIC projects. and can't get enough
stuff
on the screen at once in double space.

What's the magic incantation to fix this?

Thanks, mike

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Tim et.al.:

You are probably referring to:
TREE for HP 100LX Version 1.21E

                English  Manual Copyright (C) 1995/96    Shozo Ito
       Original Japanese Manual Copyright (C) 1991/92/93 Rey Kinoshita
                                Copyright (C) 1994/95/96 Shozo Ito


If you are looking for a copy, ask Tim ;-)

Cheers...Al Kind
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Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:32 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Don't laugh at me: "Tree drawings" on the LX?


Hi all,

I saw a computer graphic today that tickled the very EDGE of a memory....

Wasn't there a program for the LX (or maybe it was for PCs), that just drew
trees on the screen?

I remember something that generated random trees; then let you save the
result
as a PCX file, if you thought the random art was "pretty" enough. I *think*
it was an LX program. I searched SUPER, but may not have used the proper
search terms....

So, am I losing my mind, or was there such a program ... OK, I could HAVE
the
program and still lose my mind <grin>, but am I remembering an LX program
and
does anyone know where it is?

The "graphic" that reminded me was at:

http://www.wideopenwest.com/~lipetz/TinyLogo/TinyLogo.htm

I was searching for a color version of "Mastermind" for the PalmOS and
tripped
over that site... BTW, is "TinyLogo" worth anything to learn/play with and
does it work on the LX?

TIA,

--tim

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Hello Folks,


I am taking pictures of the internals of the hp700lx, just because there are
not really a lot of them. I'm using a fine 4.1mpix digicam, a Sony Cybershot
DSC-S85. I'm getting really nice pictures of it, but... since i'm taking the
pictures really close (10-30cm) to the print (because I want them as highly
detailed as possible) the flash is really good visible as a large white spot
on the print, which I don't really like. I set the flash level to a minimum
but it still is too much. Turning it off produces worse pictures which are
not as clear and sharp. Does anyone have any tips? (thinking of Daniel here
since he already made us some really nice pictures and it seems like he has
quite some experience with this).



Thank you in advance,


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Bruce wrote...
BM> And did you also write the other two poems?

Yes.

BM> This one appears in the 100LX and 200LX:
BM>      Felis Concolor
BM> =A0=A0=A0=A0 A funny thing happened on the way to the forum
BM> =A0=A0=A0=A0 When I encountered a group in search of a quorum.
BM> =A0=A0=A0=A0 They came from a city. The Burg On The Wire,
BM> =A0=A0=A0=A0 If I tried To describe it you'd call me a liar.
BM> =A0=A0=A0=A0 They wanted to charge me a really quite large fee
BM> =A0=A0=A0=A0 For the dubious pleasure of sharing their treasure.
BM> =A0=A0=A0=A0 "I'm a very Good man (Mark my words if you can),"
BM> =A0=A0=A0=A0 "But, the Dickens, I say, I simply won't pay!"
BM> =A0=A0=A0=A0 And with poetry, then, I proceeded to bore 'em
BM> =A0=A0=A0=A0 Then preceded myself on my way to the Forum.

That one was originally done for the 100LX.  "Felis Concolor"
is the latin name (for a Cougar, I believe, although I don't
remember for sure now).  The poem was a veiled tribute to
the HANDHELD forum on Compuserve (this was before the days
of the web, believe it or not, and even before the days when
AOL was shipped in cereal boxes, when Compuserve was King of
the online world...), which was managed by Ted Dickens and
Mark Goodman was one of the head experts who frequently posted
on the forum.  Hence, the references to "the forum",
"...a very Good man (Mark....", and "...the Dickens, I say".
I also was in the habit of creating limericks and answering
people's questions on the forum in the form of limericks.

BM> This one appears in the 200LX only:
BM>      Nine lives has a Cat, and each Cat a name.
BM> =A0=A0=A0=A0 All of them different, none are the same.
BM> =A0=A0=A0=A0 Jaguar was the first, it made quite a roar.
BM> =A0=A0=A0=A0 Cougar was next, oh, how it did soar.
BM> =A0=A0=A0=A0 Felix is third, my heart it does quicken,
BM> =A0=A0=A0=A0 Who knows what comes next, the clock is a tickin'.

A reference, of course, to the 95LX (Jaguar), the 100LX (Cougar),
and the 200LX (Felix).  Alas, it was all too prophetic....
"...the clock is a tickin'" indeed! :-(

Everett

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Niels,
Don't know anything about your camera or flash, but an old trick to soften =
the flash when you are close to the subject is to cover the flash with a =
white handkerchief (sp?).  That diffuses the flash so that it is not so "=
harsh" as well as decreasing the light level.  Of course another thin whi=
te cloth should work just as well.
FWIW,
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I take the pictures of my computers without flash, just a 200W lamp =
above the computer. Since a few weeks I use a polarizing filter to =
reduce reflections. You can have a look at my 700lx-pictures at =
http://www.compuseum.de/e/g/computer/hp700lx.html
They're still not perfect (to much glare on the display), but I'm =
getting better ;-)

regards,
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On, Friday, January 10, 2003 11:59 PM
Michael Kopplin wrote:

>I don't know where you can find the program, but maybe this is
>what you were thinking of

> http://www.palmtoppaper.com/ptphtml/22/pt220006.htm

It was indeed and thanks to all who sent me a copy of the program!

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I would really like to get a copy of this "tree.exm" also

Thanks,

Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393
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Hi Jacques and all,

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacques Belin"
Now, in the same site, go to the see the page :
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.recory@mm.html
"Discovered on: December 31, 2002
 Last Updated on: January 04, 2003 02:33:39 PM"

You will see that it concerns a virus transmitting itself using a
message containg the text of the hoax....
And that the Jdbgmgr.exe file is one of the files which could be
overwritten by the virus code..

To be precise: it is one of the files they mention that "it does_ or
attempts to _do...."

Do you understand the situation now ?

All the better for our discussion : )) But it seems that the genuine
Jdbmgr.exe (the one with the TeddyBear) survives intact. The virus _is
_detectable. Anyone who has Norton antivirus (like myself) gets the updates
every week automatically when online without even seeking them.

I think symantec should definitely make some update on the first page to
tell to users that the situation about this hoax has slightly changed...

I fully agree: the original reassurance about jdbgmgr.exe.should be
modified, otherwise it is very misleading. When reading the later (Dec 31st)
warning which is about the W32.recory it is not immediately apparent that it
can affect the jdbgmgr.exe. One has to read a long list of files to see what
can be affected.

Best regards,

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I too would like to get a copy of TREE.EXM.  Should this item go up on
SUPER?

Thanks,
Martin G. Ramirez

At 01:41 pm 1/11/2003 -0800, you wrote:



I would really like to get a copy of this "tree.exm" also

Thanks,

Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992
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I too would like to get a copy of TREE.EXM.&nbsp; Should this item go up
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Thanks,<br>
Martin G. Ramirez<br><br>
At 01:41 pm 1/11/2003 -0800, you wrote:<br><br>
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<font size=2>Thanks,</font> <br><br>
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Niels,

I am a photographer. Although photographing computers is not my
specialty, I think I can make some suggestions.

If you shoot with an on camera flash, you will have hot spots
no matter how you soften it. What you need is an off camera
light source. If you do not have access to studio flashes and
equipment, probably the best way is to use 2 bright lights
(high power desk lamps will probably do for close ups),
position them so that they are shining at about 45 deg one on
each side of the LX. You can try diffusing the lights with
translucent paper (the kind they use in the kitchen, but watch
out the paper does not get overheated and catch fire) to soften
the shadows. Since you are doing close ups, you can move the
lights all the way in to get a good exposure. Watch out you
camera does not cast a shadow on the LX.

You have to adjust the white balance in the camera to get true
color. Set it to "tungsten" if there is such a setting, or
there may be a lightbulb symbol.

Hope this helps.

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Hi Niels

17h45m ago Niels wrote:

> DSC-S85. I'm getting really nice pictures of it, but... since i'm taking the
> pictures really close (10-30cm) to the print (because I want them as highly
> detailed as possible) the flash is really good visible as a large white spot
> on the print, which I don't really like. I set the flash level to a minimum

The flash intensity is not that important, you can reduce the intensity
and get a more diffuse flash by flashing through a hadkerchief, but
that could reduce the intensity even too much.

The important thing is to NOT take the photo from an angle of 90 degree
to the surface. Every surface reflects the flash more or less, so let
the flash be reflected to somewhere else than into your lens by using
an angle which prevents reflection into the lens.

Attention, ASCII art <g>:

     O   Lens      O
     ^              \        /
     |               \      /
     |                \    /
     |                 \  /
     V                  \/
==============     =================     surface

wrong               correct


Wrong: Flash is reflected back directly into the lens
Correct: Flash is reflected to somewhere else

Good luck!

daniel

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Hi Mike

1 day 16h44m ago Michael R Goodwin wrote:

> These are still in their original plastic sack, but I have no way to test
> them.
>
> So, if someone were to make an offer...

I give you 110$ for the five screens.
I have a Paypal account.

One condition, though: If I find out that these are not working with
the palmtop (but I don't htink so, they really seem to be exactly the
screens we need), I would like to return them to you.

I would use them as spare screens for the backlight project, to let the
tech who installs the upgrade have them if he accidentally breaks an
original screen.

daniel

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Hi Franklin

22h15m ago Franklin Eekhout wrote:

> Take a Linksys WET11, make a 5V battery pack, and use your existing NIC. The
> WET11 is a wireless bridge allowing you to connect to any AP. Its about the
> size and weight of a 200LX, and say a similar sized rechargable battery pack,
> maybe prismatic cells, velcroed or taped to the underneath. Problem is that it
> is just web based, it seems, so it might not be configurable from the 200lx,
> there is no mention of telneting to it. :-(

Very interesting idea! Well, configuration via web interface MAY work
using HV, but probably won't because many of these configuration web
frontends use JavaScript.

Does the device keep its configuration when it's not powered? If so,
you could configure it at home and then take it with you. If it is
configured to use "any" accesspoint, it can at least be used in all
situations when no WEP key is needed and a normal accesspoint
infrastructure is used.

Network configuration like IP address etc. is done on the palmtop
(WWW/LX, LXTCP... whatever), so this is not the problem.

Problem might only be when moving from an unprotected network to a WEP
protected one, or if you always have to move between different WEP
protected networks with different WEP keys.

I would love to try that device, since I always work in an area where
various wireless LANs are installed. Does anyone know how much this
device costs in USA?

I once bought a Linksys WUSB11 (the USB wLAN adapter) in USA, and that
was way cheaper than here in Germany.

Thanks
daniel

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Sun, 12.01.03 12:48 PM +0200

Sorry folks, I have too much trouble at the moment to search the list
archives...

What is exactly needed to make an SRAM card work under Windows 98?
I know there are some "truefs" drivers needed or something like that,
but where to get them and how to install them properly?

Thanks a lot
daniel

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Hi Neils,

Try taking the pictures outside in bright sunlight.

Niels wrote:

> Hello Folks,
>
>
> I am taking pictures of the internals of the hp700lx, just because there are
> not really a lot of them. I'm using a fine 4.1mpix digicam, a Sony Cybershot
> DSC-S85. I'm getting really nice pictures of it, but... since i'm taking the
> pictures really close (10-30cm) to the print (because I want them as highly
> detailed as possible) the flash is really good visible as a large white spot
> on the print, which I don't really like. I set the flash level to a minimum
> but it still is too much. Turning it off produces worse pictures which are
> not as clear and sharp. Does anyone have any tips? (thinking of Daniel here
> since he already made us some really nice pictures and it seems like he has
> quite some experience with this).
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
>
> Niels
>
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Hi Martin

11h44m ago Ramirez, Dr. Martin G. wrote:

> I too would like to get a copy of TREE.EXM.  Should this item go up on
> SUPER?

Yes, of course it should, if it isn't yet. :-)

Please send a copy to super@palmtop.net, and please make it easier for
me and create a short description and write down version number and
author name and email.

Thanks
daniel

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> What is exactly needed to make an SRAM card work under Windows 98?

Try this in your "config.sys":
device=c:\windows\system\csmapper.sys
device=c:\windows\system\carddrv.exe /slot=n

Where "n" is the number of available card-slots (usually 2)

> I know there are some "truefs" drivers needed or something like that,
> but where to get them and how to install them properly?

The drivers should already be installed on your system or at least
available on the Win98-CD...

regards,
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Daniel asked about the cost of the LinkSys WET11 device.
It's listed on Buy.com for US $105.91 -- here's a URL:

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10321908&loc=14451


Here's a URL to the LinkSys page:

http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=432&grid=33


Disclaimer: I've used the LinkSys 4-port DSL switch/router and
their KVM switch, and been quite satisfied with both.  I bought
the KVM switch by way of Buy.com and was pleased with the job they
did.  No other affiliations to disclose.

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On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:47:45 +0200 Daniel Hertrich
<daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> writes:
> Hi Mike
>
> 1 day 16h44m ago Michael R Goodwin wrote:
>
> > These are still in their original plastic sack, but I have no way
> to test
> > them.
> >
> > So, if someone were to make an offer...
>
> I give you 110$ for the five screens.
> I have a Paypal account.

This look familiar???
If you want to install the upgrade yourself, please consider that a quite
high skill level is needed: You have to take the palmtop entirely apart,
even
opening the screen module. Before you decide to do the upgrade yourself,
read the installation instructions (see next paragraph) carefully to see
if you
will be able to do it yourself! And please consider that replacement
screens are extremely hard to get, and if you get one, it will be
expensive (probably
not less than 100$!)

Maybe you could send people to me if they need screens.  I like the $100
each a LOT better ;-)

Would be nice to figure out for sure if they're compatible.
mike
>
> One condition, though: If I find out that these are not working with
> the palmtop (but I don't htink so, they really seem to be exactly the
> screens we need), I would like to return them to you.

From Germany, that would be a duty nightmare.

>
> I would use them as spare screens for the backlight project, to let
> the
> tech who installs the upgrade have them if he accidentally breaks an
> original screen.
>
> daniel
>
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Date:         Sun, 12 Jan 2003 23:13:16 +0100
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Michael R Goodwin wrote:
> Maybe you could send people to me if they need screens.

Cool it man! Up to now Daniel did not have any screens, did not know of
any source, and did not offer to deliver any to anyone. What he gave
there was an estimate of what someone in need would probably have to
spend on top of all the time and hassle of searching for them. While not
offering his labour intensive gadgets for the price of the parts, I see
no indication that Daniel is out to make a profit on parts dealing. I
for one would be far more relaxed sending in a machine to be upgraded if
I knew that in case of a piece of bad luck I'd not be left with a
totally screenless one. And I have decided that I am far too clumsy to
do it myself.

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I get these everytime I log on. At 147lbs. weight and just under
5ft-11inches, I don't need to lose 22lbs., but I refrained from answering
back or clicking the "remove" in case it only verified my address. I have
blocked sender on so many of these (and others) but the same ones  keep
coming under different names. Now that I know the source they use, maybe I
should click remove?

Richard



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> I received spam today about some weight loss program. I was
> about to hit the delete key when I noticed a lot of familiar
> addresses. There were others, but about half were people on this
> list. I was curious how they would come up with such a list, and
> with a little searching I found the web page which was obviously
> harvested for the addresses. The order of the addresses in the
> headers is the same as they appear on the page.
>
> http://www.palmtoppaper.com/ptphtml/52/hplxcnct.htm

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Clicking a remove-link won't work i guess for it just assures that your
address is in use and just makes it more valuable to spammers. Best you
could even refrain from using a html-enabled mail-reader, because a lot of
spam contains images that are loaded from the web. If they put a special
mark in the url of the image (like, <img
scr="www.spamcorp.com/image.php?id=12345">), they can track if you've read
the email even without the need to click a link, because they know the image
has been downloaded from the server and thus the email has been read.
This works for sure, I use it myself to keep track of important emails...in
combination with a read-recipe (which not everybody sends) this is quite a
good way to know if the mail has been seen by the adressee.


Niels

[n]
----- Original Message -----
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> I get these everytime I log on. At 147lbs. weight and just under
> 5ft-11inches, I don't need to lose 22lbs., but I refrained from answering
> back or clicking the "remove" in case it only verified my address. I have
> blocked sender on so many of these (and others) but the same ones  keep
> coming under different names. Now that I know the source they use, maybe I
> should click remove?
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mike"Subject: Weight loss SPAM
>
>
> > I received spam today about some weight loss program. I was
> > about to hit the delete key when I noticed a lot of familiar
> > addresses. There were others, but about half were people on this
> > list. I was curious how they would come up with such a list, and
> > with a little searching I found the web page which was obviously
> > harvested for the addresses. The order of the addresses in the
> > headers is the same as they appear on the page.
> >
> > http://www.palmtoppaper.com/ptphtml/52/hplxcnct.htm
>
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Axel,
I agree with you. I would not feel comfortable trying the upgrade
myself. I have already emailed the person in Europe that will be
installing the upgrades and I am on the list. Can't wait.

Daniel. I would be willing to chip in a couple of bucks toward your
purchase of the spare screens. Cheap insurance for those of us
planning to upgrade. Have I thanked you lately for all of the work you
have done on making the backlighting project work? It will make my LX
pretty much perfect!

Dennis

BTW, anyone have an idea how much trouble it is going to be sending an
LX to Europe from the USA for the upgrade and then get it back?

<<<I for one would be far more relaxed sending in a machine to be
upgraded if
I knew that in case of a piece of bad luck I'd not be left with a
totally screenless one. And I have decided that I am far too clumsy to
do it myself.>>>

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Well folks, it looks like another trip to Thaddeus will soon be on the
agenda for my beloved LX.

A few days ago the sound quit working.  No beep when charging
started/stopped and no alarms.

Today, I pulled my memory card out and heard something rattling around
inside.
Peeking in the PCMCIA card door, I saw that the enunciator disk had come
completely loose.
It eventually flopped out of the PCMCIA card door.

Any idea if this is a repairable problem?

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On Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:47:50 EST Bill Krauss wrote:
>Can HP Connectivity Pack be installed and will it work under Windows XP?
>If you know, will you post your experiences, please.

I have it running under XP, mostly to use the apps to open LX files on
the PC. I haven't tried using it to transfer the files.

For transferring to XP, the W32FILER program (DOS) from SUPER works
great!

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Have you already seen this ?

Check http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/103340_vulcan09.shtml

Ok, only 4-hr battery life, but... interesting, isn't it ?


regards,
Carlos=20
(proud and recent 200LX owner)
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Hi Mike

actually I intended to send you my offer in private, I just hit the
wrong reply key, as I said to you in private already.
But if you want to continue on list, we can do that.

09h37m ago Michael R Goodwin wrote:

> This look familiar???
> If you want to install the upgrade yourself, please consider that a quite
> high skill level is needed: You have to take the palmtop entirely apart,
> even
> opening the screen module. Before you decide to do the upgrade yourself,
> read the installation instructions (see next paragraph) carefully to see
> if you
> will be able to do it yourself! And please consider that replacement
> screens are extremely hard to get, and if you get one, it will be
> expensive (probably
> not less than 100$!)

Yes, it does.
For those who don't know: Mike has quoted that from my backlight homepage.

Of course it is entirely up to you if you want to support the backlight
project.

The whole project would not have been possible without those many
donations from various people, most of them (including me) have donated
much, much time and also some money. And two kind souls on this list
even donated screens. Exactly as many screens as I need to repair
my own LXs, which I took screens from for research.

I didn't dare to ask you to donate your screens. But I think if you got the
screens on a swap meet and got them even without knowing if they would be
useful, you certainly have not paid very much for them, so my offer
would be already a good deal for you.
If I am wrong, fine. It was just an offer. I won't offer more.

As I said, I would have used the screens as replacement parts in case
the backlight upgrade technician accidentally breaks a screen, which
can happen quite easily (as I say on my backlight homepage - should
sound familiar to you <g>). At the moment we don't have any replacement
screens, so if something breaks, the technician can only refund the
money needed to buy another machine, he will not be able to repair the
unit.

> Maybe you could send people to me if they need screens.  I like the $100
> each a LOT better ;-)

Certainly I won't.

daniel

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Date:         Mon, 13 Jan 2003 10:09:19 +0200
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Hi Gary

02h52m ago Gary Jacek wrote:

> Today, I pulled my memory card out and heard something rattling around
> inside.
> Peeking in the PCMCIA card door, I saw that the enunciator disk had come
> completely loose.
> It eventually flopped out of the PCMCIA card door.
>
> Any idea if this is a repairable problem?

If everything is still somewhere inside the LX, it should be
repairable. If something flopped out of the PCMCIA slot, and you cannot
find it anymore, spare parts are needed <g>.

Please see the pictures on
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/stuff/#phonejack
to see how the speaker and its surroundings should look like. Probably
this black ring which fixes the speaker in its position broke and now
the speaker is loose. Maybe the contacts (which are connected to the
two springs, which press against the motherboard contacts) are also not
in place anymore.
Repairing would probably involve soldering the contacts back in place
on the speaker again, fixing the screen in its position either using
the black ring and glueing it or using only some strong glue.
Or simply replacing the bottom case shell.

daniel

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Hi Dennis

07h16m ago Dennis Vest wrote:

> Daniel. I would be willing to chip in a couple of bucks toward your
> purchase of the spare screens. Cheap insurance for those of us
> planning to upgrade. Have I thanked you lately for all of the work you

Thanks a lot for your offer, but this time no deal will take place.
But if I ever find another source for replacement screens, I will let
you know.

> have done on making the backlighting project work? It will make my LX
> pretty much perfect!

;-) The only excuse for me to have spent so much time and money on the
project is the fun I had doing that. It was a great project and I have
learned a lot. And it is even greater now that I know it makes a so
usefule machine more useful.

> BTW, anyone have an idea how much trouble it is going to be sending an
> LX to Europe from the USA for the upgrade and then get it back?

Not exactly, but I have been sent some LXs from USA already, even not
very well packaged, and they all arrived in very good condition.
Of course if it's your valuable main machine which you want to have
upgraded, it's better to spend some more money on packaging and
shipping.

And regarding the shipping back from Germany to USA (or wherever),
Stefan K=E4chele will say you how much it will cost and how it is done.
He has some experience with shipping sensitive devices, so he knows
better than I do.

daniel

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Date:         Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:09:21 +0100
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I _do_ have several repairable screens (missing lines versions). I
saved them up to repair them once I had bought a good reflow soldering
gear. But I can make them available to Daniel _ I lack the time anyway
in my new job. (We'll negotiate what it's worth in LETs off line..)

--------------------------------------------------------------------

And a 'tech'hint for those soldering on the loose pins on the hornet
chip:

Once you loosened the pin, fold a small piece of paper in V form, and
shove it underneath the pin, separating it from the bordering pins.
This effectively isolates it from the other pins and makes soldering a
_whole_ lot easier. No chance on short-circuiting.

Michel

----- Origineel Bericht -----
Van: Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
> Thanks a lot for your offer, but this time no deal will take place.
> But if I ever find another source for replacement screens, I will let
> you know.
>
> ;-) The only excuse for me to have spent so much time and money on the
> project is the fun I had doing that. It was a great project and I have
> learned a lot. And it is even greater now that I know it makes a so
> usefule machine more useful.
>

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Date:         Mon, 13 Jan 2003 15:25:49 +0200
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Hi Oliver

1 day 30m ago Oliver W. Leibenguth wrote:

> > What is exactly needed to make an SRAM card work under Windows 98?
>
> Try this in your "config.sys":
> device=c:\windows\system\csmapper.sys
> device=c:\windows\system\carddrv.exe /slot=n
>
> Where "n" is the number of available card-slots (usually 2)

Thanks a lot, now the card is recognized by Windows, but Windows still
wants a driver for "Memory Card Device (MTD-000)"

Does anyone know where to get that driver?

Background: The technician, who will install the backlight upgrades,
needs to write the backlite driver and a test boot system onto an SRAM
card to test each installed backlight, but he only has a Windows
noteboot to access the SRAM card.

Thanks
daniel

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Both suggestions are good.

Another device I have seen is a diffuser bag or pillow made from thin
ethafoam plastic (white, slippery, slightly compressible, very flexable foam
plastic). The pillow is attached in front of the flash, so the first surface
difuses the flash, which spreads out and illuminates the second surface,
which emits the light from a much larger area than the original flash.

Flash
 |
 v   /\
--  /  \
  ||    |
  ||bag |
  ||    |
--  \  /
     \/


If you are using separate lights, use two, one on either side, at a 45
degree angle to the object. That way, the fall-off in intensity from one
light is matched by the opposite fall-off of the other, so that the the
light is even from side-to-side.

Bob


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Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:48 AM
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Subject: Re: taking pictures of hp700lx... - problems with flash

<snip>
The flash intensity is not that important, you can reduce the intensity
and get a more diffuse flash by flashing through a hadkerchief, but
that could reduce the intensity even too much.

The important thing is to NOT take the photo from an angle of 90 degree
to the surface. Every surface reflects the flash more or less, so let
the flash be reflected to somewhere else than into your lens by using
an angle which prevents reflection into the lens.
<snip>

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W98 loads the driver from the Windows 98 distribution AFAIK.
Michel

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Van: Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Datum: Maandag, Januari 13, 2003 2:25 pm
Onderwerp: Re: SRAM card under Win98

> Hi Oliver
>
> 1 day 30m ago Oliver W. Leibenguth wrote:
>
> > > What is exactly needed to make an SRAM card work under Windows 98?
> >
> > Try this in your "config.sys":
> > device=c:\windows\system\csmapper.sys
> > device=c:\windows\system\carddrv.exe /slot=n
> >
> > Where "n" is the number of available card-slots (usually 2)
>
> Thanks a lot, now the card is recognized by Windows, but Windows still
> wants a driver for "Memory Card Device (MTD-000)"
>
> Does anyone know where to get that driver?
>
> Background: The technician, who will install the backlight upgrades,
> needs to write the backlite driver and a test boot system onto an SRAM
> card to test each installed backlight, but he only has a Windows
> noteboot to access the SRAM card.
>
> Thanks
> daniel
>
> --
> http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact
> http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/forsale
> "...and nothing was ever heard from him again,
> except for the sound of Tubular Bells"
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Everyone thanks for the hints.

I think I've made quite good pictures (tonight i'll upload them) but the
flash is still there in some images. I wanted to photograph the prints and a
few parts at 90 degrees, with underneath a paper with 5mm squares so sizes
can be measured easily (in case someone wants to know...). The trick with
the handkerchief didn't go very well for i had a finger on the flashlight or
you see the fabric dangling in the pictures and so, it was not really
practical. I did not want to tape it to the camera for it is not mine. I
only have one deplaceable light which is quite bright but I used in in some
of the pictures (most lights, including desktop-lights, are mounted in the
ceiling here so that's not really practical in this case). Anyway they will
be up tonight, it totals abt. 15mb I think, so I will create an index page
with thumbnails of the images.
There is a date on all pictures, I figured out how to turn it off when I was
done <g>.


Niels


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman@JDEDWARDS.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: taking pictures of hp700lx... - problems with flash


> Both suggestions are good.
>
> Another device I have seen is a diffuser bag or pillow made from thin
> ethafoam plastic (white, slippery, slightly compressible, very flexable
foam
> plastic). The pillow is attached in front of the flash, so the first
surface
> difuses the flash, which spreads out and illuminates the second surface,
> which emits the light from a much larger area than the original flash.
>
> Flash
>  |
>  v   /\
> --  /  \
>   ||    |
>   ||bag |
>   ||    |
> --  \  /
>      \/
>
>
> If you are using separate lights, use two, one on either side, at a 45
> degree angle to the object. That way, the fall-off in intensity from one
> light is matched by the opposite fall-off of the other, so that the the
> light is even from side-to-side.
>
> Bob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Hertrich [mailto:daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE]
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:48 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: taking pictures of hp700lx... - problems with flash
>
> <snip>
> The flash intensity is not that important, you can reduce the intensity
> and get a more diffuse flash by flashing through a hadkerchief, but
> that could reduce the intensity even too much.
>
> The important thing is to NOT take the photo from an angle of 90 degree
> to the surface. Every surface reflects the flash more or less, so let
> the flash be reflected to somewhere else than into your lens by using
> an angle which prevents reflection into the lens.
> <snip>
>
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Date:         Mon, 13 Jan 2003 04:47:22 -0800
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Nothing uncool here.  I merely observed  that the offer was one fifth the
estimated going rate  and stated that I'd rather be near the high end
rather
than at the bottom end with an agreement to take 'em back if they "didn't
work out".
There was a smiley emoticon ;-)
lighten up.

I have an HP200LX.  My attachment to it is totally irrational, so I know
how
emotional people can get over a $10 computer that won't run a useful
(to me) program.

I'll quit experimenting on the five displays I have left virgin.
No use messing up a scarce commodity.
They're not going anywhere.
If anyone needs one, they know where to find me.

mike


On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 23:13:16 +0100 Axel Berger <Axel-Berger@NEXGO.DE>
writes:
> Michael R Goodwin wrote:
> > Maybe you could send people to me if they need screens.
>
> Cool it man! Up to now Daniel did not have any screens, did not know
> of
> any source, and did not offer to deliver any to anyone. What he gave
> there was an estimate of what someone in need would probably have to
> spend on top of all the time and hassle of searching for them. While
> not
> offering his labour intensive gadgets for the price of the parts, I
> see
> no indication that Daniel is out to make a profit on parts dealing.
> I
> for one would be far more relaxed sending in a machine to be
> upgraded if
> I knew that in case of a piece of bad luck I'd not be left with a
> totally screenless one. And I have decided that I am far too clumsy
> to
> do it myself.
>
> Axel
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This look great except for the battery life. 4 Hours usually means 2-3 ho=
urs
in the real world. The Japanese would probably eat this thing up but
Americans won't pony up the dollars for something like this when you can =
get
a "real" computer for the same price.

What this industry needs is a more lightweight and powerful battery. I ca=
n't
wait until fuel cells become a cost effective and prolific technology. It
seems to be the battery technology with the most potential to lead to a
truly portable computing world. It'll be cool to have to fill my laptop u=
p
from a little tin container like an old zippo lighter.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Lacroze" <lacro37@YAHOO.COM.AR>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:19 AM
Subject: Next Palmtop Try ?


> Have you already seen this ?
>
> Check http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/103340_vulcan09.shtml
>
> Ok, only 4-hr battery life, but... interesting, isn't it ?
>
>
> regards,
> Carlos
> (proud and recent 200LX owner)
> Ahora pod=E9s usar Yahoo! Messenger desde tu celular. Aprend=E9 c=F3mo =
hacerlo
en Yahoo! M=F3vil: http://ar.mobile.yahoo.com/sms.html
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Gary wrote...
GJ> A few days ago the sound quit working.  No beep when charging
GJ> started/stopped and no alarms. Today, I pulled my memory card
GJ> out and heard something rattling around inside. Peeking in the
GJ> PCMCIA card door, I saw that the enunciator disk had come
GJ> completely loose. It eventually flopped out of the PCMCIA card door.
GJ> Any idea if this is a repairable problem?

Highly likely.  The "enunciator disk" is called a "piezo-electric",
which is a ceramic/metal combination that, when a voltage is applied
across it, deforms.  By applying/removing voltages at different
frequencies, it can be made to vibrate like a speaker cone.  What
most likely occurred is that the disk came loose from it's housing
in the plastic, and then the constant sliding around and vibrating
caused the wires that are soldered to it to break off, allowing the
disk to completely slide out the PCMCIA slot.  In all likelihood,
the disk can be resoldered to the wires, and mounted back into it's
housing place in the plastic case, and you'll be back in business.

Or not. :-)

Everett

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even cheeper at Dell for simpletech...

Drop! Simpletech 256MB Compactflash $85.50 - 10% = $81 - $20 rebate = $56.
Rebate Exp 1/15. Search for Simpletech at www.dell.com

The 512 is <$200!!

Now that's a lot of storage! Has anybody done more than a gig on the LX yet?





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Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 5:46 PM
Subject: $65 256MB compact flash card


> after rebate, that is...
>
> http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10302882
>
> I think the viking cards work in the LX but you need a CF adapter.
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Hi friends,

thanks to all who had ideas, the problem seems to be solved now.

daniel

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All,

Was it Viking that was a bad match with
HP200LX according to an old HPHAND thread?
Could have been PCMCIA and not CF though.

Best,

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Niels" <hp700lx@softhome.net>

> If they put a special
> mark in the url of the image (like, <img
> scr="www.spamcorp.com/image.php?id=12345">), they can track if you've read
> the email even without the need to click a link, because they know the
image
> has been downloaded from the server and thus the email has been read.
> This works for sure, I use it myself to keep track of important
emails...in
> combination with a read-recipe (which not everybody sends) this is quite a
> good way to know if the mail has been seen by the adressee.

Thanks for the above details. I'll continue to refrain from clicking
"remove"

Regards,

Richard

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At 1/13/03-01:20 PM, eugarps@ATTGLOBAL.NET wrote:
>Was it Viking that was a bad match with HP200LX according to an old HPHAND
>thread? Could have been PCMCIA and not CF though.

I think maybe you refer to reports that people experienced troubles with
SimpleTech, but I did not.

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> not as clear and sharp. Does anyone have any tips? (thinking of Daniel =
here
> since he already made us some really nice pictures and it seems like he =
has
> quite some experience with this).

If you have access to a flat-bed scanner, this may be the best solution. =
Lay
the 700lx on it and scan it.

 \/
 /ves

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eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3 wrote:
> What this industry needs is a more lightweight and powerful battery. I can't
> wait until fuel cells become a cost effective and prolific technology.

Looking in my crystal ball...

While boarding an airplane or entering a court house, etc.:
"I'm sorry, you may not enter with your LX999 as its power
source has been declared combustable and a possible terrorist
weapon."

Cheers... Russ

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 >A reference, of course, to the 95LX (Jaguar), the 100LX (Cougar),
 >and the 200LX (Felix).  Alas, it was all too prophetic.... "...the
 >clock is a tickin'" indeed! :-(

well, the next one should be a fast 'tickin' 201LX (Phoenix)

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I've seen in digest that a TREE.EXM was dicussed here, but I had not seen
any link.
So If I remeber well I downloaded it from japanese Vector site
http://www.vector.co.jp/vpack/filearea/dos/util/machine/hp/index.html

don't know exactly in which filearea is this program, but it is good
to look in every area - there are some interesting programs...

Radek

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On 2003-01-13, Richard McEvoy wrote:

> From: "Niels" hp700lx@softhome.net

I haven't seen this post, so I have to cite Richard's reply.

>> If they put a special
>> mark in the url of the image (like, <img
>> scr="www.spamcorp.com/image.php?id=12345">), they can track if
>> you've read the email even without the need to click a link, because
>> they know the image has been downloaded from the server and thus the
>> email has been read. This works for sure, I use it myself to keep
>> track of important emails...

FWIW. This is (fortunately) not reliable and you shouldn't do this
anyway for a number of good reasons:

- The usage of so called web-bugs is a method to break into ones
  sacre privacy. Very impolite the least. People who still do,
  often go directly into the kill file.

- It only works when you send your mail as HTML, which is impolite
  as well and *non*-standard anyway. You shouldn't do this, as it
  increases redundancy, costs, and the time to handle etc. for all
  involved parties without delivering any benefit over plain
  ASCII mail.
  Many e-mail clients don't know how to handle it, reading HTML with
  a non-capable client or reading HTML posts in digests form only
  (for example mailing lists) is distractous at best. And almost
  impossible to cope with for blind people.

- On the receiver's side, it only works when all the following
  conditions are met:
  a) the e-mail client is able to interpret and display HTML e-mails
  b) the e-mail client has not been disabled to interpret HTML e-mails
  c) you are online, while you read the mail

Unfortunately, for users of Microsoft Outlook and Outlook Express
it is difficult to not match any of a) b) and c) - at least at work.
Most other e-mail clients can be configured to not met this criteria.
At least the newer OE 6.0 now also has a option under
Extras->Options->Read->Only display as TXT. If you check this option
(highly recommended), web-bugs will stop working, even when you
remain online. For older clients, you will have to disable the
Preview function and log out before you start reading any of your
mails (or even better, open each post as source code first).

Sorry, this was completely OT...

Greetings,

 Matthias

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[n]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthias Paul" <Matthias.Paul@POST.RWTH-AACHEN.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: OT Weight loss SPAM


> On 2003-01-13, Richard McEvoy wrote:
>
> > From: "Niels" hp700lx@softhome.net
>
> I haven't seen this post, so I have to cite Richard's reply.
>
> >> If they put a special
> >> mark in the url of the image (like, <img
> >> scr="www.spamcorp.com/image.php?id=12345">), they can track if
> >> you've read the email even without the need to click a link, because
> >> they know the image has been downloaded from the server and thus the
> >> email has been read. This works for sure, I use it myself to keep
> >> track of important emails...
>
> FWIW. This is (fortunately) not reliable and you shouldn't do this
> anyway for a number of good reasons:
>
> - The usage of so called web-bugs is a method to break into ones
>   sacre privacy. Very impolite the least. People who still do,
>   often go directly into the kill file.

might be impolite but I think it's even more impolite to pay me eur750
instead of the promised eur4000 and then I still don't have it, already
waiting a few months for it! (okay...that was none of your business, but
that's what I was talking about)

>
> - It only works when you send your mail as HTML, which is impolite
>   as well and *non*-standard anyway. You shouldn't do this, as it
>   increases redundancy, costs, and the time to handle etc. for all
>   involved parties without delivering any benefit over plain
>   ASCII mail.
>   Many e-mail clients don't know how to handle it, reading HTML with
>   a non-capable client or reading HTML posts in digests form only
>   (for example mailing lists) is distractous at best. And almost
>   impossible to cope with for blind people.
>
I can come into this, but nowadays HTML mail is quite standard (tough it
might not be an official 'standard' it is commonly used). I sent text email
to people who cannot read HTML email, in outlook you can save that in the
address book.

> - On the receiver's side, it only works when all the following
>   conditions are met:
>   a) the e-mail client is able to interpret and display HTML e-mails
>   b) the e-mail client has not been disabled to interpret HTML e-mails
>   c) you are online, while you read the mail
>
Indeed. For me it works. I'm happy it does. It bugs me that those people
used to send a 'read' reply but now refrain from doing so. However, I want
to be sure they've had my mails. Talking about _at least_ eur3250 here,
quite a lot of money. Might be impolite. They are too.

> Unfortunately, for users of Microsoft Outlook and Outlook Express
> it is difficult to not match any of a) b) and c) - at least at work.

true.

> Most other e-mail clients can be configured to not met this criteria.
> At least the newer OE 6.0 now also has a option under
> Extras->Options->Read->Only display as TXT. If you check this option
> (highly recommended), web-bugs will stop working, even when you
> remain online. For older clients, you will have to disable the
> Preview function and log out before you start reading any of your
> mails (or even better, open each post as source code first).
>
> Sorry, this was completely OT...
>
> Greetings,
>
>  Matthias
>
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>
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Date:         Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:15:05 +0100
Reply-To:     Dzon <dzon@SOFTHOME.NET>
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> > Thanks for reply. I have tried this software, but I couldn't make it work
> > :-( The problem was not the connection, because normal internet connection
> > works [it dials]. But when I try to exchange SMSs, it stops with
> > Connecting to phone. Hanging up. The sequence:
> > send AT\r
> > wait 5 OK
> > in pdu.scr [about line 100] timeouts and I cannot figure out why :(
> > Btw I own DS LX, Siemens MT50 and cable :)
> > I have www3, postlx, robot, postpdu installed.
>
> I don't think you have the latest postpdu from August or so
> last year. Please get it from the site below. From the history
> in postpsu.doc:

You are right, but now I am trying the latest version taken from URL you
mentioned. Still the same problem, except now it waits bit longer. Is
there some helpline for WWW/LX shareware users? :) [well I cannot name me
WWW user as it doesn't work for me, so I cannot use it :)]

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Date:         Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:08:22 +0100
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Le Tue, 14 Jan 2003 04:43:12 +0100
Nathalie Bugeaud <planetary@FREE.FR> a =E9crit:

> well, the next one should be a fast 'tickin' 201LX (Phoenix)

=2E..and it will be released in 2010, next year of the _Tiger_....

;-)


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Date:         Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:31:04 +0100
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Matthias Paul wrote:
> - It only works when you send your mail as HTML, which is impolite
>   as well and *non*-standard anyway.
> - On the receiver's side, it only works when all the following
>   conditions are met:
>   a) the e-mail client is able to interpret and display HTML e-mails
>   b) the e-mail client has not been disabled to interpret HTML e-mails
>   c) you are online, while you read the mail

As far as I am aware it ought not to work even then. Could someone send
something like that to me, please? The unknown originator (Niels?)
perhaps?
> >> I use it myself to keep track of important emails...

I do hope that my Netscape, while displaying everything inside the
actual HTML sent will *not* go and get something else without asking and
would like to make sure. BTW: With the phone as dirt cheap as it is now,
I am currently online, makes answering on the spot easier and also
following all those links you kind folks tend to suggest.

Danke
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Hmm I tought I mailed it to the list as well but I don't see it. It was from
me indeed.
Axel I sent you a 'bugged' mail as you requested.


> As far as I am aware it ought not to work even then. Could someone send
> something like that to me, please? The unknown originator (Niels?)
> perhaps?
> > >> I use it myself to keep track of important emails...
>
> I do hope that my Netscape, while displaying everything inside the
> actual HTML sent will *not* go and get something else without asking and
> would like to make sure. BTW: With the phone as dirt cheap as it is now,
> I am currently online, makes answering on the spot easier and also
> following all those links you kind folks tend to suggest.
>


we'll see :)


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Another one:

http://palmtops.about.com/library/weekly/aa122702a2.htm

Didn't see ANYTHING about battery life or *which* 300 MHz processor it's
using, but it could be a candidate.... I like the original one (that started
this posting) due to its USB*2* ability.

There is a company page at:

http://www.tiqit.com/eightythree.html

I wasn't able to make the "specs" tab/link work, it might be my computer
acting up.

An Old CBS story talks about the prototype:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/CuttingEdge/cuttingedge000623.html

I'm guessing that, when they say "computer the size of a matchbox" they're
talking about those BIG boxes of kitchen matches that are bigger than the
average mouse....

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Date:         Tue, 14 Jan 2003 09:36:38 -0700
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The "press release" at the first link says it's a National Semiconductor
Geode SC2200 system-on-a-chip (SoC) at 300 MHz.

As to the "matchbox" computer, there was one made last year, and its the
size of a small matchbox (about 1.5x1x0.5 inches). I don't have the link
handy, but it might have been through UCLA.

-----Original Message-----
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: Next Palmtop Try ?


Another one:

http://palmtops.about.com/library/weekly/aa122702a2.htm

Didn't see ANYTHING about battery life or *which* 300 MHz processor it's
using, but it could be a candidate.... I like the original one (that started
this posting) due to its USB*2* ability.

There is a company page at:

http://www.tiqit.com/eightythree.html

I wasn't able to make the "specs" tab/link work, it might be my computer
acting up.

An Old CBS story talks about the prototype:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/CuttingEdge/cuttingedge000623.html

I'm guessing that, when they say "computer the size of a matchbox" they're
talking about those BIG boxes of kitchen matches that are bigger than the
average mouse....

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It was Stanford:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/276762.stm

:)

-----Original Message-----
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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<snip>
As to the "matchbox" computer, there was one made last year, and its the
size of a small matchbox (about 1.5x1x0.5 inches). I don't have the link
handy, but it might have been through UCLA.
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Date:         Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:51:29 +0000
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Everett wrote...
>The number FOUR sticks in my mind, in terms of ROMs.  Probably
>English, French, Spanish, and German.  However, I believe that
>you and Hal are correct that there were also a number of different
>keyboard overlays, creating "sort of" different localizations.
>Also, I don't know what Singapore might have done, once they took
>over things, in terms of localizations, so that might be the source
>of some of the confusion.

I have a 200LX produced in Singapore with RUSSIAN characters on keyboard
overlay...

Gregory

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I have been using FSB v2.02 (evaluation copy) for some years and have just
noticed a problem when importing a GEDCOM from an outside source. Notes
don,t seem to be importing from the GEDCOM to FSB.

Has anyone run ito this problem? Without being able to locate the author of
the program (Chris Long-I have tried to locate him). it may end up being
unusable for me going forward.

I was able to locate some info on Chris, but have not been able to contact
him.

I tried a copy of Family Origins but it locks up my 200lx requiring a
hard-3 finger salute.

I am presently searching the archives for any bits of info that might help.

I located FSB v.3.10 at http://www.pcug.org.au/~chowell/ftpfiles/
thanks to the archive and Maynard Riley

Is anyone using it, and has anyone seen the same thing concerning notes
from gedcoms and FSB v.2.02?

Thanks
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Norman Wolfe" <norman.wolfe@VERIZON.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 2:42 PM
Subject: HPLX2PALM


> Holiday greetings to all.
>
> I am also interested in conversion between the HPLX and Palm (mine is an
> Handera 330, which has two expansion slots). Right now, I and use
> Microsoft Outlook as a go-between.

Well, I put together a little web page on the subject, detailing what
information I currently have.  Check it out at
 http://www.geocities.com/ddvteach/hp-palm/hp-palm.htm

I still need to find information about using Excell, Linux and Mac, plus a
lot of cleaning up.

Let me know what you think  .  .  .

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Date:         Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:31:20 -0800
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Hi

I have had trouble getting Tremm to work as a swapfile for SC.

Could somebody send me the following files and I will try to get it
working again:

Spd3x (the latest speed driver).
Tremm.exe (the latest version)
Instemm (the latest)

The problem is that I get a Error #1 when I boot and SC does not see
the tremm.swp file. Using Tremm was faster I remember.

I have tried every combination that I can think of in my config.sys and
this is the one I am trying out now:

buffers=20
files=40
Lastdrive=j
device=c:\rdt2t.exe
device=c:\spd31.exe
device=c:\rdswap.exe
device=c:\tremm\tremm.exe c:\tremm.swp

It is on the orginal little C drive and I have tried to move the tremm
line before rdswap and have tremm point to the f:\tremm.swp file, but
nothing works. I either get the BEEP and Error #1 or the Hplx freezes
up. (I have tried everything)

I will make a new test with the latest drivers, if anyone would be so
kind to send me them.

I have several versions of the spd31 driver and different versions of
tremm now so I do not know which one is the latest.

The strange thing is that I had this working a year ago with tremm and
all, but not now.. I must have a "bad" file somewhere.

I do this:

in the root of C: (32mb)

Instemm 200

The file is created ok

Then the config.sys above or "whatever". Everything should be
okey, but not :-(

TIA

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Date:         Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:32:21 +0200
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Wed, 15.01.03 09:29 AM +0200

Hi friends,

I'm sorry, the last mail with the announcement contained a private
message to Stefan, which was not intended to be sent to the list.
Next comes the announcement once more (contents identical) without that
mesage. Just to do it correctly _once_. <g>

daniel

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Date:         Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:32:22 +0200
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Dear palmtoppers,

as of Wednesday, January 15th 2003 the backlight upgrade kit for the=20
HP Palmtops 100LX, 200LX and 1000CX is available and can be ordered.
It is sold by Stefan K=E4chele, http://www.backlight4you.com -=20
Not by me! Please don't send your orders to me!

Please note that this includes ONLY THE DO-IT-YOURSELF KIT at the moment,=
=20
installation service will be available LATER, probably in February.=20

Regarding prices, shipping costs and an installation guide=20
please see the official HP Palmtop backlight homepage
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/backlight

PLEASE DO NOT ORDER YET if you need installation service! This will be
available later and no pre-orders are accepted at the moment.
I will let you know via the HPLX mailing list, comp.sys.palmtops and
via the Backlight Homepage (s.a.) as soon as the installation=20
service can be ordered.

Daniel Hertrich


------

The announcement written by Stefan K=E4chele:

(For the English version scroll down, please)=20

Vielen Dank f=FCr Ihr Interesse an unseren Backlight-Kits.=20

Die Backlight-Kits f=FCr HP100LX/HP200LX und den HP1000CX werden ab 15.Ja=
nuar=20
2003 in einer ersten Serie von 100 St=FCck erh=E4ltlich sein.=20

Preis: 68.50 Euro incl. MwSt.=20
Versandkosten innerhalb -D- per Nachnahme: 4.60 Euro zzgl. postalischer=20
geld=FCbermittlungsgeb=FChr 2.- Euro bei empfang=20

------------=20

Das Austausch-Kit f=FCr den NEWTON 2000/2100 (Preis 87.-Euro) wird=20
voraussichtlich ab Mitte Februar 2003 verf=FCgbar sein.=20

Einbauservice f=FCr den N2000/2100 durch uns (www.backlight.ch bzw.=20
www.backlight4you.com)=20

------------=20

Wir nehmen Bestellungen formlos per e-mail und FAX an. Unsere Adresse s.u=
.=20

Die Bestellungen werden in der Reihe des zeitlichen Eingangs ber=FCcksich=
tigt.=20

Bei den Bestellungen bitte die Lieferanschrift angeben, wir k=F6nnen die =
Kits=20
leider nicht per e-mail verschicken.=20

------------------------ ------------------------=20

English: Thank you for your interest in our backlight-kits=20

The backlight-kits for the HP100LX, 200LX and 1000CX will be available at=
=20
15.January 2003=20

Price: 68.50 Euro incl. German VAT=20
(Price von non-EU-residents: 59.05 Euro German VAT excluded)=20
Shipping Europe (as registered letter): 5.55 Euro=20
Shipping World (as registered letter): 8.05 Euro=20

Payment in advance to my PAYPAL-account: info@palmzip.de or by C.O.D. wit=
h=20
additional costs of 9.10 Euro=20

Please await our order-confirmation, before paying to PAYPAL.=20

-----------=20

The exchange-kit for the backlight-panel of the NEWTON 2000/2100 (price=20
87.-Euro) will be available around midst of February 2003.=20

The exchange service for N2000/2100 is done by us (Germany) (www.backligh=
t.ch=20
or www.backlight4you.com).=20

------------=20

Orders will be processed according to the time of arrival.=20

We accept orders from anywhere/worldwide by e-mail or FAX.=20

When ordering, please mention your shipping address. Unfortunately we can=
`t=20
send the backlight-kit by e-mail.=20

------------=20

www.backlight4you.com=20
Stefan Kaechele=20
Hauptstr. 25=20
D-79725 Laufenburg=20
Germany=20
phone   +41/62/8750-034=20
FAX     +41/62/8750-634=20
e-mail  info@palmzip.de=20

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Date:         Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:28:10 +0200
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Hi Martin

51m ago Martin Bergvill wrote:

> Could somebody send me the following files and I will try to get it
> working again:

get the latest versions on SUPER:
http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/search.pl?Query=t2tdrv

daniel

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Date:         Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:32:12 +0200
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06m ago Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> I'm sorry, the last mail with the announcement contained a private
> message to Stefan, which was not intended to be sent to the list.
> Next comes the announcement once more (contents identical) without that
> mesage. Just to do it correctly _once_. <g>

HA! The posting with the private message has been rejected anyway,
because it was too long. :-)

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Date:         Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:23:23 -0800
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Hi

I had to get a bigger memorycard for my Hplx.

Twinmos Mediastore (TM)
Compact Flash 256Mb
Ultra High Speed
Serialno: 251M52069330136
P/N:FCF256S
Made in Taiwan

Www.twinmos.com
Email:support@twinmos.com.tw
Two year limited warranty
Universal compatibility

It works okey in the Hp200Lx. Do not think it is any faster than my
100mb Sandisk pcmcia card. But maybe faster in my Canon Powershot S40
digital camera. I have not used it yet in the Canon, but I guess it
will work okey there too.

Daniel can you add this to your website?

TIA

Regards

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Date:         Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:27:02 EST
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This and the OQO computers while attractive, may be vaporware.  They were
originally to be out in mid-to-late 2002.  I have not seen anything new about
them for several months.

                                        Dan

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Date:         Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:42:03 -0700
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Might just be the particular laptop or flash card, but an 85MB SanDisk SDP3B
card I have occassionally causes my IBM T20 laptop with Win2000 to Blue
Screen when hot inserted. This card works fine in my 200LX. Anyone else
having any problems?

It would be a pity if the problem is with the type of card, as there are a
number of large capacity SDP3B's showing up on eBay for good prices.

Bob

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Hmm... Interesting. Will this kit work on the HP OmniGo 700LX?

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Date:         Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:47:32 +0200
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Wed, 15.01.03 5:53 PM +0200

Hi friends,

are Brandon Davis and Don Chow still subscribed to this list?
Or does anyone have their most recent email addresses?

brdavis at home.com is expired and micro at smartt.com is, too.

Thanks
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:53:18 +0200
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09m ....>> in the future <<.... ago Philip Pemberton wrote:

> Hmm... Interesting. Will this kit work on the HP OmniGo 700LX?

maybe.
please read http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/backlight

daniel

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Date:         Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:53:22 +0200
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Hi Martin

28m ago Martin Bergvill wrote:

> Daniel can you add this to your website?

will do that. Thanks.
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:20:56 -0000
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Martin,

I don't think it's your files that are the problem; I had similar problems
setting up SC7 on my 32mb. Are you actually using INSTEMM in the 32mb drive?
You say it is on the "the original little C:drive" . Your 200x16kb swap file
needs 3.2mb to work, and will not work in the 1.4mb F (or C )drive.

Start from scratch, but this time use a config.sys that loads only the
SPD31,RDT2T, RDSWAP files, but NOT the TREMM. Then once you get the 32mb
loaded, install the TREMM.

BTW, I think you should have the RDSWAP file on the last line of your
config.sys.

It is also a good idea to have  a copy of spd31.exe on the A drive and put
device=a:\spd31.exe in the A:drive copy of config.sys


Richard.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Bergvill" <hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:31 AM
Subject: Another go with Tremm and System Carousel


> Hi
>
> I have had trouble getting Tremm to work as a swapfile for SC.
>
> Could somebody send me the following files and I will try to get it
> working again:
>
> Spd3x (the latest speed driver).
> Tremm.exe (the latest version)
> Instemm (the latest)
>
> The problem is that I get a Error #1 when I boot and SC does not see
> the tremm.swp file. Using Tremm was faster I remember.
>
> I have tried every combination that I can think of in my config.sys and
> this is the one I am trying out now:
>
> buffers=20
> files=40
> Lastdrive=j
> device=c:\rdt2t.exe
> device=c:\spd31.exe
> device=c:\rdswap.exe
> device=c:\tremm\tremm.exe c:\tremm.swp
>
> It is on the orginal little C drive and I have tried to move the tremm
> line before rdswap and have tremm point to the f:\tremm.swp file, but
> nothing works. I either get the BEEP and Error #1 or the Hplx freezes
> up. (I have tried everything)
>
> I will make a new test with the latest drivers, if anyone would be so
> kind to send me them.
>
> I have several versions of the spd31 driver and different versions of
> tremm now so I do not know which one is the latest.
>
> The strange thing is that I had this working a year ago with tremm and
> all, but not now.. I must have a "bad" file somewhere.
>
> I do this:
>
> in the root of C: (32mb)
>
> Instemm 200
>
> The file is created ok
>
> Then the config.sys above or "whatever". Everything should be
> okey, but not :-(
>
> TIA
>
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>
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Date:         Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:05:18 -0500
Reply-To:     Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
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I already mentioned this, just wanted to make it official:  I created a web
page for sharing the known information about hplx to Palm synchronization.
You can find it at:

http://www.geocities.com/ddvteach/hp-palm/hp-palm.htm

The bulk of the information I put there is on IrDA information.

Comments, suggestions and contributions will be much welcomed.

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Date:         Thu, 16 Jan 2003 03:00:18 +0000
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I thought some of you might find this interesting.
I use this PKZIP command to backup my T2T 32M C: drive.

   pkzip -e0 -bc: -rP  a:\backup.zip  c:\*.*

I've been using "-e0" for no compression and fast speed and
started wondering how the other compression values measured.

Here's the resulting size and my non-accurate time estimate.

  PkZip  -e0  16,833,224   as fast it gets
  PkZip  -es  10,615,799   noticably slower but not bad
  PkZip  -ex  10,058,913   as slow as it gets ...Very VERY slow

The Pkzip v2.04g compression options are:

-e[x,n,f,s,0] [eXtra|Normal (default)|Fast|Super fast|NO compression]

I didn't try N or F once I saw how well S compressed.

There's a huge size difference between E0 and ES. Going all the
way to the other extreme (EX) doesn't compression much better
than Super Fast (ES) and you pay a huge time penalty; I guess it
would be ok if you're backing up over night.

So for backup purposes the issue (to me) is whether to back up
as fast as possible with E0 and accept the space penalty or take
a bit more time and save a lot of space.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:28:07 -0700
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Anyone have to sell or know where get the 1MB memory ram
card HP 82216A or the 128K HP 82215A for the HP48GX?

Any good web sites or lists dealing with the 40 series
machines besides the museum links?

Bob
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At 1/15/03-03:20 PM, Richard McEvoy <remce@GOFREE.INDIGO.IE> wrote:

Sorry, I did not see Martin's original message with the CONFIG.SYS until
Richard's reply.

>You say it is on the "the original little C:drive" . Your 200x16kb swap file
>needs 3.2mb to work, and will not work in the 1.4mb F (or C )drive.

Well, I do not think that INSTEMM will even try to install an EMM on the
built-in drive, it will always go to the add-on memory board. I think
Martin meant the programs are on the HP-built C drive.

>BTW, I think you should have the RDSWAP file on the last line of your
>config.sys.

Indeed! MUST be the last line in CONFIG.SYS if you use an add-on memory
board! RDSWAP changes an internal table so what was known as the (HP-built)
"C drive" will be known as "F drive". The memory board will now be known as
"C drive". After RDSWAP action, the operating system continues reading
initialization files from C drive - which now is the add-on memory, and it
looks for AUTOEXEC.BAT. That is why you must put the AUTOEXEC.BAT on the
add-on memory. You can put it on the HP-supplied memory but after the
action of RDSWAP, that file will NOT be read because it is on the "F drive"
now, and there is (hopefully) an AUTOEXEC.BAT in the C drive (now the
add-on memory). If there is not one on the add-on memory board, the
operating system will find one on the next drive, the D drive! (This is the
most difficult point for palmtopppers to grasp.. Don't know why...)

Having said all this it is important to add the following: You DO want to
prepare the add-on memory board that contains the SWAP file. This is what
TREMM does. So use this CONFIG.SYS order: (almost identical to my own setup!)

buffers=20
files=40
Lastdrive=j
device=c:\spd31.exe
device=c:\rdt2t.exe
device=c:\tremm\tremm.exe
device=c:\rdswap.exe

Note 1: I usually run SPD31 first - allows me to see the progress.
Note 2: DROP the specification of the swap file name. RDT2T makes the board
known. TREMM always looks for a SWAP FILE there.

>It is also a good idea to have  a copy of spd31.exe on the A drive and put
>device=a:\spd31.exe in the A:drive copy of config.sys

Only if you know for a fact that your card will be in the slot when you boot.

Good luck, Martin - sorry I did not see your initial post.

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Date:         Thu, 16 Jan 2003 03:40:07 -0300
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Hi, Robert,

Try the best site for the 40 series http://www.hpcalc.org/ from Eric
Rechlin. Even though I'll have many more links, you can find there the be=
st
compilation archive of applications written for the 48 and 49 (even other
models). Together with the museum links, those two are the best sites.
"(...) the premier source of software for and information about the HP49,
HP48, and HP28 RPN programmable graphic calculators and the HP38G, HP39G,
and HP40G programmable graphic calculators, with 5377 files by 1626 autho=
rs
and 1259 screenshots totaling 343.43MB. (...)"

See my other private post regarding the cards you asked for.

regards,

Carlos Lacroze
BsAs, Argentina

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Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:28 AM
Subject: OT: WANTED HP48GX Memory (Was End of an era)


> Anyone have to sell or know where get the 1MB memory ram
> card HP 82216A or the 128K HP 82215A for the HP48GX?
>
> Any good web sites or lists dealing with the 40 series
> machines besides the museum links?
>
> Bob
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Date:         Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:13:01 +0100
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http://www.sandisk.com/about/press.asp

SanDisk Introduces World's First CompactFlash Card Combining Flash Memory and
Wireless Communications

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Date:         Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:33:32 +0100
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>> The dual-function CF cards with 128MB of capacity will be priced at
$129.95 while the dual-function 256MB SD cards will be priced at $149.95. <<

compared to the eur80 for a standard WiFi-card and prices of eur55 for a
128mb cf card or eur110 for 256 I would say this is dirt cheap. (The
cf-prices are for Dane-Elec cf-cards, Sandisk 128mb is eur84!!!! at
Conrad...).


no word on powerconsumption though, and nothing about drivers as wel... I
wonder if a WiFi card is NE2000 compatible but actually I'm afraid it is
not.

Niels



[n]
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> http://www.sandisk.com/about/press.asp
>
> SanDisk Introduces World's First CompactFlash Card Combining Flash Memory
and
> Wireless Communications
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Date:         Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:41:17 +0100
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http://www.sandisk.com/consumer/connect.asp gives a little more information,
but the manual which should be available for download redirects to the same
site.
Same on SanDisk, not only for the download which is not working, it is also
a large 10MB!!! I wonder why a manual for a network card has to be that
size...

this is about the cf wifi connect only, not the dual function wifi/cf card.

I cannot find the dual function card on the site, probably they did not put
in online for it is not yet available, or just because i'm too stupid <vbg>


Niels

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:33 AM
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> >> The dual-function CF cards with 128MB of capacity will be priced at
> $129.95 while the dual-function 256MB SD cards will be priced at $149.95.
<<
>
> compared to the eur80 for a standard WiFi-card and prices of eur55 for a
> 128mb cf card or eur110 for 256 I would say this is dirt cheap. (The
> cf-prices are for Dane-Elec cf-cards, Sandisk 128mb is eur84!!!! at
> Conrad...).
>
>
> no word on powerconsumption though, and nothing about drivers as wel... I
> wonder if a WiFi card is NE2000 compatible but actually I'm afraid it is
> not.
>
> Niels
>
>
>
> [n]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Feher Tamas" <feher.tamas@2FKFT.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:13 AM
> Subject: Sandisk Flash + 802.11b combo CF card
>
>
> > http://www.sandisk.com/about/press.asp
> >
> > SanDisk Introduces World's First CompactFlash Card Combining Flash
Memory
> and
> > Wireless Communications
> >
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Date:         Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:18:27 +0200
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Hi Bob

14h19m ago Feldman, Robert wrote:

> Might just be the particular laptop or flash card, but an 85MB SanDisk SDP3B
> card I have occassionally causes my IBM T20 laptop with Win2000 to Blue
> Screen when hot inserted. This card works fine in my 200LX. Anyone else
> having any problems?

What does the Bluescreen say?
I know there are sometimes problems with corrupted dll or other files,
if you install Windows anew, the problem may be gone.

daniel

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Date:         Thu, 16 Jan 2003 02:29:50 -0800
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:44:48 -0600, Avi Meshar wrote:

Hi Richard and Avi and all

I am going crazy..:-(

> At 1/15/03-03:20 PM, Richard McEvoy <remce@GOFREE.INDIGO.IE> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I did not see Martin's original message with the CONFIG.SYS until
> Richard's reply.
>
> >You say it is on the "the original little C:drive" . Your 200x16kb swap file
> >needs 3.2mb to work, and will not work in the 1.4mb F (or C )drive.
>
> Well, I do not think that INSTEMM will even try to install an EMM on the
> built-in drive, it will always go to the add-on memory board. I think
> Martin meant the programs are on the HP-built C drive.

Yes I have this on my orginal small C drive
config.sys
spd31.exe
rdt2t.exe
tremm.exe
rdswap.exe

instemm.exe(does not matter where I run this from it is created on the
32mb drive anyway as you noted) (I run this only once to create the
swapfile)

> Having said all this it is important to add the following: You DO want to
> prepare the add-on memory board that contains the SWAP file. This is what
> TREMM does. So use this CONFIG.SYS order: (almost identical to my own setup!)
>
> buffers=20
> files=40
> Lastdrive=j
> device=c:\spd31.exe
> device=c:\rdt2t.exe
> device=c:\tremm\tremm.exe
> device=c:\rdswap.exe

I use exactly this config.sys file.

First I use :

instemm.exe 200

which creates a swap file on the 32mb drive. It is created okey with
the correct attributes.

Then when I boot, the palmtop goes through the config.sys file and
hangs when it executes tremm.exe in the config.sys. I need to do a
ctrl+alt+del.

> Good luck, Martin - sorry I did not see your initial post.

That's alright. I can not understand why I can not get tremm to work.
When I tried this on my 8mb DS machine with the exact same config.sys
and all it worked as it should do.

I have used trcheck and everything checks out okey. I have used chkdsk
on the 32mb drive and on the orginal c drive and everything is okey. I
have downloaded the new t2tdrv.zip file from Super too..

I am lost.. I will try to initialize the Hplx and start from scratch,
but I tried that some time ago with the same bad result as above.

Strange that a year ago I used tremm on this same machine without
problems.

I will try to run without the autoexec.bat file and then try to create
the tremm.swp file. Maybe some of my tsr's in the autoexec.bat corrupts
the creating of the file. But I doubt that.

Regards

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Date:         Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:00:53 +0100
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Sorry folks, I am a little late with the pictures of the 700lx that I
promised you. This because I still find my girlfriend a whole lot more
interesting than my hplx, tough I'm afraid this feeling will fade if I
understood you well... <VBG>

I also have pictures which require a little more explanation, these are
about taking apart the screen hinge. These will be put online, but I do not
know when... see the reason given above ;) If you are interested in these
pictures you can request them, and I will send them to you.
I need to make some comments in the pictures to show were the tricky things
are, that's why I did not put them online.

The pictures can be found at http://hp700.punksmurf.nl. If it's not yet
available (something with IP-pointers or so) you can visit
http://www.punksmurf.nl/hp700. The images are quite large, abt. 1.2 - 1.7 mb
in size. There is no index.htm so it's point-and-click to download. Please
do not hotlink them or download them 5 times each for my transfer is limited
(1gb tough, so it won't be a problem directly...but just in case)

I hope these proove usefull, especially to the backlight project :) because
that's the main reason I made them.




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Date:         Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:58:47 +0100
Reply-To:     Dzon <dzon@SOFTHOME.NET>
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Hello LXers,
I am looking for somebody who successfully uses [or was using]
unregistered version of WWW/LX for SMS sending via GSM [mobile phone
connected to LX via wire or IR] and will be so kind to help me make it
working :)
The WWW/LX is not a must of course, if there's another program able to
send SMS, by the way.

If it works for you, what client program are you using? I know POST/LX can
do the job, I don't know another progs.

I am trying to make SMS sending working with WWW/LX, POST/LX, robot,
postpdu and setcom. The main [and only] problem is that when robot is
communicating with GSM thru pdu.scr, no data exchange is made: the script
timeouts at the first AT command, then hangs up and exits.

What I have done:
Unzipped www3.zip, post3.zip, robot.zip, postpdu.zip, setcom.zip from
DASOFT homepage, all into a:\www. Recent versions.
I tried the latest postpdu with timeout extended to 10 sec, same result.
I setup www/lx and post, mainly the serial part [baud etc].
I have done changes in post.cfg, pdu.tpl and pdu.bat described in
postpdu.doc, step-by-step to use COM1 on 19200.

www -d
[telnet local works, so port is set OK]
post
here I call pdu.bat via ^X. It starts executing pdu.scr. When it reaches
line:
send AT\r
wait 10 OK
it timeouts with no response and SMS D/L fails.
The 16k limit of WWW/LX is NOT overflown, because THEN I can connect to
GSM via telnet local and the same instance of WWW/LX.

My hardware is Siemens MT50, cable and DS LX. It is possible to send SMS
thru this HW, I tried it via terminal and AT command.

If there would be some command line 'AT sender', but these I have found
were unstable or not usable for sending SMS.

Thanks for help OR for link to another SMS sender.

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Date:         Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:21:55 +0100
Reply-To:     Denis BLANCHON <denis.blanchon@WANADOO.FR>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 5:09 PM
> 02h27m ago Erwann ABALEA wrote:
> > The 'magic word' should be translated. For example, on a
french HP200, you
> > have to type 'galerie' instead of 'gallery' to activate this
easter-egg.
> But does anyone (Everett?) know the magic word for the German
version? I
> have tried it on my German palmtop with "galerie", "Galerie",
and even
> some misspelled versions of the German word for gallery, but
to no
> avail.

On a french HP200, you have to type 'gallerie' with two 'l'. The
french 'galerie' (one l)comes from Italian 'galleria' (two l) :
difficult to do no typo in translation !
May be you have the same in other languages ?...

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Date:         Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:10:25 +0000
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Hello LXers,

Guess what? There is a 200LX on E-bay... :-)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3001124467&category=3734#DESC

Best regards,
Grigory

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"Feldman, Robert" wrote:

> Might just be the particular laptop or flash card, but an 85MB SanDisk SDP3B
> card I have occassionally causes my IBM T20 laptop with Win2000 to Blue
> Screen when hot inserted. This card works fine in my 200LX. Anyone else
> having any problems?

Hi Bob,

   I don't have that type of card, but I do have
problems with a 64MB SanDisk Compact Flash in a
SanDisk adapter with my HP Omnibook.  Where I don't
have those problems with a Simple Technology 32MB
PCMICA card.

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If you want to build your own perhaps you could start off with an Elf2...  http://www.inhandelectronics.com/html/elf2.html The Elf2 with 32MB Flash/32MB SDRAM and Linux is $595 in singles, the Fingertip is $445 in singles...
Suresh

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Date:         Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:45:50 +0200
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Hi Inigo

1 week 20h42m ago Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota wrote:

> My palmtop started to complain about a low backup
> battery. When I replaced the battery with a brand new
> one it continued to complain! Using Lxpro will show
> three "???" on the current voltage of the backup
> battery. I am using a Panasonic CR 2032 3V battery. Is
> this the correct battery? Has this happened to
> somebody else? I have already tried rebooting and
> draining all power from the palmtop with no avail.

Sounds like a bad contact. The power from the battery simply does not
come to where it is inteneded to go.
Clean all contacts, check if the little spring contact which connects
to the top of the battery is still touching the battery if it's
inserted, if not, bend it down a little. If this all doesn't help, you
probably need to open the palmtop and solder.

daniel

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Hi Niels

06h20m ago Niels wrote:

> Sorry folks, I am a little late with the pictures of the 700lx that I
> promised you. This because I still find my girlfriend a whole lot more
> interesting than my hplx, tough I'm afraid this feeling will fade if I
> understood you well... <VBG>

It CAN happen, if you don't care. <g> But it shouldn't. If it does, you
have made something wrong, either the wrong girlfriend, or the wrong
way of life!

> I also have pictures which require a little more explanation, these are
> about taking apart the screen hinge. These will be put online, but I do not
> know when... see the reason given above ;) If you are interested in these
> pictures you can request them, and I will send them to you.

Take all the time you need. I don't have time right now to dive into
that anyway. And the technician who will install backlight upgrades
also doesn't have the time before February (he is a student AND has a
girlfriend <g>)

> The pictures can be found at http://hp700.punksmurf.nl. If it's not yet
> available (something with IP-pointers or so) you can visit
> http://www.punksmurf.nl/hp700. The images are quite large, abt. 1.2 - 1.7 mb

ah, so they ARE online. I'll have a look over the weekend.

> I hope these proove usefull, especially to the backlight project :) because
> that's the main reason I made them.

I think it will be possible in the future to upgrade the 700, too. But
we first have to make sure if the software switch will work or not,
i.e. if the process of upgrading is the same as on the 200LX or not.

daniel

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All,

I am facing reality and starting to clean out a lot of history from my
stash.    This is only a start.  Most of the electronics (HP200LX,
Psion, Jornada 548 & 720) are gone.

I do have some older DOS programs for disposal.  I ask nothing for the
programs themselves.  I am only asking for shipping costs to get it to
the first respondent, be it via email or telephone (some of you already
have my phone number). If there is no response or request for any item,
it's relegated to the circular file at the end of January.

Tim

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CD:  CD Certify Pro Plus Bonus Pack CD from Quaterdeck.  The CD-ROM
trouble shooter toolbox

CD:  Microsoft Word designed for Windows 95

CD set with manuals (heavy):  Microsoft Office Bookshelf
  Professional.  for Windows 95.
Word, Excel Powerpoint Schedule Access

2 floppy set + manuals:  Norton Utilities v5.0.   Actually I think I
have v4.0, v5.0 & v6.0 floppies.  I have purchased every Norton
Utilities version since Peter Norton started.  I have 3 copies of NSW
v2.0, but 2 of those are in use.

  5-1/4 & 3-1/2 floppy set + manuals from Compaq:  MSDOS v5.0 .

3 floppy set:  MACE Utilities.

CD + Manual:  Drive Image for Windows 95.

2 floppies + manuals:  Lotus Works  v1.0. Runs on the HP200LX, I think..

Book:  Upgrading to MS-DOS v5.0

3 floppy set + Manual:  Mathcad v4.0 (with disks for Mathcad v6.0).

4 floppy set + manuals:  CheckitPro    Vol 1: Sysinfo and Vol 2: Tests &
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Date:         Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:03:55 +0100
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Palmtop (if you want to roll your own...)thanks for the link, but next time
please use ascii to post to this list :)
and its using a strongarm cpu, so it's not that cool, but nice nonetheless.

Niels

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Subject: Palmtop (if you want to roll your own...)


If you want to build your own perhaps you could start off with an Elf2...
http://www.inhandelectronics.com/html/elf2.html The Elf2 with 32MB
Flash/32MB SDRAM and Linux is $595 in singles, the Fingertip is $445 in
singles...
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>
> It CAN happen, if you don't care. <g> But it shouldn't. If it does, you
> have made something wrong, either the wrong girlfriend, or the wrong
> way of life!
>

lol :)

>
> Take all the time you need. I don't have time right now to dive into
> that anyway. And the technician who will install backlight upgrades
> also doesn't have the time before February (he is a student AND has a
> girlfriend <g>)
>

Sounds familair heyhey. So I can come into that ;)


> > The pictures can be found at http://hp700.punksmurf.nl. If it's not yet
> > available (something with IP-pointers or so) you can visit
> > http://www.punksmurf.nl/hp700. The images are quite large, abt. 1.2 -
1.7 mb
>
> ah, so they ARE online. I'll have a look over the weekend.

yes, the first few. To make it clear, the pictures a made on taking the unit
apart are NOT online the others are.

>
> I think it will be possible in the future to upgrade the 700, too. But
> we first have to make sure if the software switch will work or not,
> i.e. if the process of upgrading is the same as on the 200LX or not.
>

as soon as I have anything back together (it's still gathering dust here...)
I will see what the driver does. I'll let you know. Since I discovered there
are some electronics at the nokia connector, I will also try to disconnect
this and see how the second pcmcia slot acts :) still an interesting topic.


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Date:         Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:10:48 +0100
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On 2003-01-15, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> Twinmos Mediastore (TM)
> Compact Flash 256Mb
> Ultra High Speed
> Serialno: 251M52069330136
> P/N:FCF256S
> Made in Taiwan
> [...]
> It works okey in the Hp200Lx.

Thanks for the info. Which HP 200LX firmware version ("1.0x y z")
do you have? Is it a Double-Speed machine?

Greetings,

 Matthias

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On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:21:05 -0600, Tim wrote:

> All,
>
> I am facing reality and starting to clean out a lot of history from my
> stash.

Tim

How can I make sure that this does not happend to me? :-)

>    This is only a start.  Most of the electronics (HP200LX,
> Psion, Jornada 548 & 720) are gone.

I see that your emailer is something "PalmOs"...again how can I make
sure that this does not happend to me :-))

Regards

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At 1/16/03-04:29 AM, Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM> wrote:
>On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:44:48 -0600, Avi Meshar wrote:
> > Having said all this it is important to add the following: You DO want to
> > prepare the add-on memory board that contains the SWAP file. This is what
> > TREMM does. So use this CONFIG.SYS order: (almost identical to my own
> setup!)
> >
> > buffers=20
> > files=40
> > Lastdrive=j
> > device=c:\spd31.exe
> > device=c:\rdt2t.exe
> > device=c:\tremm\tremm.exe
> > device=c:\rdswap.exe
>
>I use exactly this config.sys file.

But you posted a config.sys DIFFERENT ORDER!

>First I use :
>
>instemm.exe 200
>
>which creates a swap file on the 32mb drive. It is created okey with
>the correct attributes.

Worthwhile checking this with the check program after you create it.

>Then when I boot, the palmtop goes through the config.sys file and
>hangs when it executes tremm.exe in the config.sys. I need to do a
>ctrl+alt+del.

But are you sure you use the CONFIG.SYS I posted or the one you posted?

> > Good luck, Martin - sorry I did not see your initial post.
>
>That's alright. I can not understand why I can not get tremm to work.

It is possible that the add-on memory has a fault? or the software? I
cannot imagine another reason. I have the same setup for several machines.

>When I tried this on my 8mb DS machine with the exact same config.sys
>and all it worked as it should do.

Maybe you are using a version of the TREMM that is old and works for
specific memory add-on sizes?

>I have used trcheck and everything checks out okey. I have used chkdsk
>on the 32mb drive and on the orginal c drive and everything is okey. I
>have downloaded the new t2tdrv.zip file from Super too..

Hmmm.... all my suggestions are checking out ok.

>I am lost.. I will try to initialize the Hplx and start from scratch,
>but I tried that some time ago with the same bad result as above.

I am lost too. Sorry.

>Strange that a year ago I used tremm on this same machine without
>problems.

That leads me back to the possibility that the memory add-on is somehow
faulty.

>I will try to run without the autoexec.bat file

Where? If you remove AUTOEXEC.BAT from the 32MB then the autoexec.bat from
D: will come to play! If you remove AUTOEXEC.BAT from the 1.3 MB drive it
makes no difference!


>and then try to create the tremm.swp file. Maybe some of my tsr's in the
>autoexec.bat corrupts the creating of the file. But I doubt that.

I doubt it too! BUT: worth trying when you are up against the wall! <G>

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I recived the 2100mAh NiMH AA batteries that I bought on Ebay from
OnlyBatteries.com in Quebec, canada today and am starting a new set of
battery tests to see how much the runtime is effected.

The main unit that I use daily is a 200lx (in a 100lx case) 6MB, DS with a
Sandisk 220MC PC card. the runtime frrom full charge to ~2.2v has been
consistantly 12-13hrs (buddy time) usein Quest 1800mAh NiMH AA's. Any time
out of System Manger (minimal) is , of course, not counted.

The following 2 units are tested using Buddy to turn off the Lite stllep
funstion. The units then will not automaticaly turn off. Budd monitors the
time.

My 1st backup is a 200lx, 6MB DS with a 128MB Simpletech PC card this unit
has been giving 10-11 hrs of contant runtime using 1600mAh Radio Shack NiMH
AA's

My 2nd backup is a 200lx, 2MB SS with a 128MB Simpletech PC card this unit
has been giving 17-18 hrs of contant runtime using 1600mAh Radio Shack NiMH
AA's

BTW- Both the SS 2MB and the DS 6MB give 55-58 hrs of runtime without using
a PC card. The DS upgrade seems to have very little effect on the runtime
(certainly <10% difference).

Here is a link to the batteries I purchased:

http://www.ipowerus.com/Menu.htm

Joe

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Reply-To:     Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
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On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:10:48 +0100, Matthias Paul wrote:

> On 2003-01-15, Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> > Twinmos Mediastore (TM)
> > Compact Flash 256Mb
> > Ultra High Speed
> > Serialno: 251M52069330136
> > P/N:FCF256S
> > Made in Taiwan
> > [...]
> > It works okey in the Hp200Lx.
>
> Thanks for the info. Which HP 200LX firmware version ("1.0x y z")
> do you have? Is it a Double-Speed machine?

Ah sorry

1.02a Doublespeed 32Mb orginal a 2mb.

(Could be 1.02(a or b)..bad lighting here so I could not see but
probably 1.02a

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Date:         Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:12:08 -0800
Reply-To:     Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:06:09 -0600, Avi Meshar wrote:

> >I use exactly this config.sys file.
>
> But you posted a config.sys DIFFERENT ORDER!

Yes, but I changed it to the one you used. Same problem. I have tried
every trick "in the book"

> >which creates a swap file on the 32mb drive. It is created okey with
> >the correct attributes.
>
> Worthwhile checking this with the check program after you create it.

Yes I will try to run instemm from the add on drive or the orginal
cdrive and see if I can see anything different with attributes or
something.

> But are you sure you use the CONFIG.SYS I posted or the one you posted?

Yours..

> > > Good luck, Martin - sorry I did not see your initial post.
> >
> >That's alright. I can not understand why I can not get tremm to work.
>
> It is possible that the add-on memory has a fault? or the software? I
> cannot imagine another reason. I have the same setup for several machines.

Must be something with the memory yes. Tony suggested that too. I will
do a ESC+On when I have taken a backup and see if everything is ok.

> >When I tried this on my 8mb DS machine with the exact same config.sys
> >and all it worked as it should do.
>
> Maybe you are using a version of the TREMM that is old and works for
> specific memory add-on sizes?

Latest one from Super.

> >I have used trcheck and everything checks out okey. I have used chkdsk
> >on the 32mb drive and on the orginal c drive and everything is okey. I
> >have downloaded the new t2tdrv.zip file from Super too..
>
> Hmmm.... all my suggestions are checking out ok.

Yep mine too..already checked out a year ago, but I am at it again so I
will come to the bottom of this now..

> >Strange that a year ago I used tremm on this same machine without
> >problems.
>
> That leads me back to the possibility that the memory add-on is somehow
> faulty.

Yep. I can live without Tremm so if there are something bad with the
memory I just hope it does not go even bad'er..

> >I will try to run without the autoexec.bat file
>
> Where? If you remove AUTOEXEC.BAT from the 32MB then the autoexec.bat from
> D: will come to play! If you remove AUTOEXEC.BAT from the 1.3 MB drive it
> makes no difference!

What I ment was without the TSR and then create the swapfile..one
thought was that a TSR corrupts the swapfile under construction...

>
> >and then try to create the tremm.swp file. Maybe some of my tsr's in the
> >autoexec.bat corrupts the creating of the file. But I doubt that.
>
> I doubt it too! BUT: worth trying when you are up against the wall! <G>

Yep..I will post to the list when I know how the memory checks out with
ESC+ON.

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Date:         Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:26:58 +0100
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> > BTW, anyone have an idea how much trouble it is going to be sending =
an
> > LX to Europe from the USA for the upgrade and then get it back?

As a European LX user and eBay customer, I regularly face the problem =
from
the other side of the pond i.e. how much trouble it is to convince a US =
eBay
seller to ship to Europe ? Many eBay seller do not even consider
international shipping as an option. Yet it is not so complicated.

Package the item properly as you would for a shipment in the USA and fill =
in
the Green CN22 sticker for Customs with a meaningfull description e.g. =
for a
LX to be fitted with a backlit screen:

 Description: "Defective calculator for repair",
 Value: "20 USD".

The above description is fair as the backlit screen does not work when =
you
ship it from the USA (there is none). The value for a used item is =
defined by
you so 20 USD is correct. This will avoid that the LX gets stuck in =
customs
for weeks to be taxed 14% to 21% VAT (there is no VAT on items below 50 =
USD =3D
50 EUR if I am right). The issue is not so much the cost of the VAT on =
used
items but the SLOW speed of Customs processing =3D> low value, no customs,=
 no
delay.

Regards,

 \/
 /ves

p.s. if a US list member is willing to volunteer as a relay between USA =
and
Europe for those eBay seller that I do not manage to convince to ship
internationally, I am interested.

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Date:         Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:19:02 +0200
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Hi Martin and Avi

02h06m ago Avi Meshar wrote:

> It is possible that the add-on memory has a fault? or the software? I
> cannot imagine another reason. I have the same setup for several machines.

Well, did anyone here use the latest driver versions from SUPER to set
up a new configuration? If not, maybe there is some bug in this
version? I got it from Mack as the latest he could find to put it on
SUPER. I'm not sure if it has been tested before.

> Maybe you are using a version of the TREMM that is old and works for
> specific memory add-on sizes?

Oh yes, weren't there specific versions of TREMM for different memory
configurations?

> Where? If you remove AUTOEXEC.BAT from the 32MB then the autoexec.bat from
> D: will come to play! If you remove AUTOEXEC.BAT from the 1.3 MB drive it
> makes no difference!

Sure? Isn't autoexec.bat always executed from where a config.sys was
found? I.e. if on C: is a config.sys and no autoexec.bat, NO
autoexec.bat is executed?

I can be wrong, but this is what I remember...

daniel


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Date:         Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:32:53 -0600
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At 1/17/03-10:19 AM, Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:
>Hi Martin and Avi
>
>02h06m ago Avi Meshar wrote:
>
> > It is possible that the add-on memory has a fault? or the software? I
> > cannot imagine another reason. I have the same setup for several machines.
>
>Well, did anyone here use the latest driver versions from SUPER to set
>up a new configuration? If not, maybe there is some bug in this
>version? I got it from Mack as the latest he could find to put it on
>SUPER. I'm not sure if it has been tested before.

That could be an issue too! Good thinking...

> > Where? If you remove AUTOEXEC.BAT from the 32MB then the autoexec.bat from
> > D: will come to play! If you remove AUTOEXEC.BAT from the 1.3 MB drive it
> > makes no difference!
>
>Sure? Isn't autoexec.bat always executed from where a config.sys was
>found? I.e. if on C: is a config.sys and no autoexec.bat, NO
>autoexec.bat is executed?
>
>I can be wrong, but this is what I remember...

I don't think wrong, but in the case of RDSWAP present in the CONFIG.SYS,
once RDSWAP runs, the names of the devices change. So indeed AUTOEXEC.BAT
will be read and executed from "C: drive", however this name is referring
to a different device, namely the 32MB add-on memory, even though the
initial device was the 1.3MB HP-built C: drive. I know this is confusing,
but you must keep track of what is called what and when to prevent getting
totally confused <g>...

So in the case of a config.sys with an RDSWAP, the machine starts reading
and executing from the 1.3MB device, and after RDSWAP runs it continues
reading and executing from the 32MB device. At first the 1.3MB device is
called "C: Drive" and after RDSWAP it is called "F drive". What was "F
drive" at first is now called "C drive" because RDSWAP changed the name of
the device.

So the result of all this: AUTOEXEC.BAT is executed from a drive where the
config.sys is NOT residing - see that?

The second part of your question: The machine at initialization will go
looking for AUTOEXEC.BAT. If it is found on a device it will execute it. If
it is not on the 32mb device it will look for it on D drive (the ROM) and
find it. This is how you are ALWAYS assured that SOME AUTOEXEC.BAT will
execute - either one you supply or the default which is hard-wired on the D
drive.

Avi

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Date:         Fri, 17 Jan 2003 22:34:09 +0100
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Yves Leurquin wrote:
> p.s. if a US list member is willing to volunteer

Strictly limited to this list only and to reasonably small amounts (but
aren't those the biggest problem? Bank charges get much more reasonable
for Bentleys):
I have an account with a US bank in NYC. I offer to post a cheque to an
address given and accept repayment to my German or my English account. I
expect all my postages etc. to be covered of course.
In the days of paypal this may already be superfluous, but still, it's
there.

Axel

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Date:         Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:22:56 +0000
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Well, did anyone here use the latest driver versions from SUPER to set
> up a new configuration? If not, maybe there is some bug in this
> version? I got it from Mack as the latest he could find to put it on
> SUPER. I'm not sure if it has been tested before.

I've been using the T2T drivers that are the same as the ones on
SUPER without any problems.

200LX
32M
DS
SC swapping to TREMM

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sat, 18 Jan 2003 12:55:30 +0100
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From:         Uli Allen <Ulrich.Allen@GMX.DE>
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I payed for the kit yesterday afternoon and it was delivered
this morning. That is quite fast.
Now I only have to wait for an auspicious day to apply it.
I need some courage to tear my beloved hplx appart.
Who hast done it already?
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Date:         Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:27:09 -0400
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Hi folks,=20

I had assigned last year a 200LX 1mb to the guy who works with me and he =
now wishes to replace it with a pocket pc so its up for sale. The system =
is in perfect condition overall and has no known screen, hinge, keyboard =
or other issues plus the case is in excellent shape.=20

This package includes the following items (all tested and working =
perfectly):=20

- HP F1060A 200LX 1Mb Palmtop PC
- HP F1015A DOS-compatible cable
- HP F1011A AC/DC Adapter 110~240v
- E&B Leather carry case (slightly worn)
- EXP1414LXM ThinFax 14.4 modem w/8 Mb memory
- Original 200LX owners manual and quick-start guide
- Bonus CD (with tons of additional s/ware) + 2 new Energizer 1700 mAh =
rechargeable batteries... =20

Asking $399 USD or closest offer (add approx $30 for 2-day door-door =
shipping by fedex). Items will not be sold separately.=20

Please email me directly for more details and not on this list. =20

Best Regards,


Ian C. Melville

FRONTLINE MARKETING AGENCIES=20
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Date:         Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:28:06 -0300
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              Backlight service when available and other Inquiries
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Perhaps, I should have addressed this message only to Daniel and/or Hal, =
but
I thought it would be interesting for the group to know this case.

Note: Questions (inquiries) between asteriks (***)

I can't believe my bad luck. I dropped my recently bought used 200LX (1 M=
b)
HP F1060A (spanish version) from my attache -4 feet height- a couple of
weeks ago, while I was heading to the local (argentinean) HP Service Cent=
er
to change the door clip. What an irony! The display went dark blue (when
powered on). If I pushed the display borders, I could even see the
applications screen. They studied it for a week in order to get a budget.
Despite that, they couldn't fix it, because they didn't have any spare pa=
rts
left (even regionally, meaning down here in South America, so they told m=
e).
It seems that I should get a new screen display. Until then, the unit was
working properly (I believe it still does, though I couldn't test it as I
can't see the screen).

Anyway, I read "replacement screens are extremely hard to get" at
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/backlight/#howto. ***I wonder if I get this
backlight service, does it mean a whole new screen is needed (and added)?
and in that case, would it be fixing my screen display as well ?***

Before this situation, I was planning in the near future on getting it an
upgrade from 1 to 8MB + DoubleSpeed at =BAUS 159.00.- which seems the bes=
t
value for my money and device (1 Mb). Bigger RAM size upgrades, would be =
too
expensive for my budget, as well as a backlight service when it be availa=
ble
(Eur 133.50? still to know as soon as it is available + shipping). Still
don't know if Thaddeus would be doing this service also... In the other
hand, I know there is a repair flat rate of US 125 at Thaddeus. ***Does i=
t
apply to this case?*** Perhaps I would even think of selling it w/ the
broken display (poor condition state), depending the money I'll get back.=
..
or maybe (and if their policy allows it), I would pay part of the DS+upgr=
ade
service=BA of a second palmtop I should get, with the sale of the first o=
ne.

Instead or at the same time, I was considering a SanDisk 128 Mb CF Card K=
it.
Perhaps even the new SanDisk dual-function (Wi-Fi connectivity and flash
memory) CF cards with 128MB of capacity -which includes a PC card adapter=
-,
priced at $129.95 (available in March) would be a future option (although
its power consumption is still not known). ***Are these combined
devices -along with the next future 256 Mb dual-function card, compatible
with the 200LX ?***

At the same time, I'd rather like to get an english version of 4 Mb (for =
a
later upgrade), but they are rare down here and too expensive everywhere
else. Changing the whole ROM board in order to get an english release of =
the
device, seems sensless to me. ***What do you think ?***


regards,
Carlos
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Date:         Sat, 18 Jan 2003 17:56:33 +0100
Reply-To:     Michel Bel <michel.bel@ZONNET.NL>
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I remember installing the newest TREMM driver ( goy it direct from Mack) and
getting severe errors.
So I reverted to a previous version which works fine.

Met vriendelijke groet, kind regards,
Michel Bel
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From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: Another go with Tremm and System Carousel


> Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> > Well, did anyone here use the latest driver versions from SUPER to set
> > up a new configuration? If not, maybe there is some bug in this
> > version? I got it from Mack as the latest he could find to put it on
> > SUPER. I'm not sure if it has been tested before.
>
> I've been using the T2T drivers that are the same as the ones on
> SUPER without any problems.
>
> 200LX
> 32M
> DS
> SC swapping to TREMM
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
> DIGITAL FREEDOM! --> http://www.eff.org/
>
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Date:         Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:09:49 -0300
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Looking for Dario Draiman from Argentina -in this group-

(as I couldn't get your email to reach you).=20

Please, do write me back (regarding your posts here).=20



Saludos,=20
Carlos=20

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Date:         Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:13:51 -0600
Reply-To:     Hal Goldstein <Hal@THADDEUS.COM>
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From: Carlos Lacroze [mailto:lacro37@YAHOO.COM.AR]=20


<<In the other hand, I know there is a repair flat rate of US 125 at
Thaddeus. ***Does it apply to this case?***>>

Yes. By the way, we get screens and other difficult to find parts such
as screens and keyboards by buying used units and cannibalizing them.
(Fortunately, we were able to obtain case tops, battery covers, and
connectivity cables in big buys with the help of HP).=20

We received several backlight kits and are looking into whether we will
offer it. Our lead tech has been playing around with it the last few
days, between repairs. He's only had an hour or two to look into it. My
guess is BEST price we would offer the upgrade is $199. The concerns
remain the same:

1. Is it a good, useful product is it?=20

2. Would we get many returns?

3. Is it reliable -- can we honor warranties.=20

4. What is failure rate?

5. How labor intensive is it?  40 minutes of a tech's time is likely
just too much. 20 minutes should be max to keep price down and avoid
hiring and training others.=20

We have just purchased a supply of English 200LX's from Brazil. There is
a chance we may offer backlight for those who want to purchase backlit
units, but not offer upgrade. None of this has been decided, and I'd
give it a 50-50 chance that we will be offering backlighting.

IN ANY CASE, THANK YOU FOR NOT CALLING. You will hear the most up to
date information here. Also, keep in mind that it will take 5-6 weeks
after we order a quantity of backlight kits to receive them, so even if
we decided today, it would be a while before we could offer them.

Hal at Thaddeus

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Hi, Pavel !

I'm afraid I couldn't get this last release to work with another =
200LX... but with the same TotCom 5.50...=20

Do you know which might be the reason ? I'm sure I might be lacking some =
file or something in the setup of this other 200LX...=20

I followed the Readme.txt instructions. Any suggestion is welcome.=20

I hadn't any problem with the previous release (on another 200LX), =
although I couldn't break the 19200 frontier (as well as in the =
TransFile Win 200).=20


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Hi,

on http://www.volny.cz/zampach/wfx_hplx.zip is new beta 4 version of
Total Commander FS plugin (probably the last beta)

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Does a different language ROM release (eg. spanish) of the 200LX, has a =
different value from the english one ?=20

I think that it should depend on the market, although I have the idea =
that most users are from the states, aren't they ? Probably because =
there is a Thaddeus there... ;-) Lucky you are ! Are there any historic =
sales figures of the 200LX, regarding language versions or in a per =
country basis ? How many members are here in this newsgroup ? by the =
way.=20

Reading the palm news, I realised there are many medicine doctors who =
uses the 200LX. It seems they are an important community, regarding this =
device. It's pretty interesting. Is there any other information =
statistics about it ?=20


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Date:         Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:12:34 +0100
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"Ian C. Melville" wrote:
> Asking $399 USD

I'm not saying it's not worth it, but boy am I glad I've already got
mine.

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Carlos Lacroze wrote:
> I could even see the applications screen.

In that case it is probably not mechanically broken. What I would try is
take apart the lid, carefully get out the screen assembly, check it
visually, clean the contacts and reassemble it. If you are lucky that
might do the trick.
The contacts of the cable and the screen only lie flat on top of each
other and are pressed together and held in place by the plastic casing.
A hard jolt may well shift them slightly.

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On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Carlos Lacroze wrote:

> I can't believe my bad luck. I dropped my recently bought used 200LX
> (1 Mb) HP F1060A (spanish version) from my attache -4 feet height- a
> couple of weeks ago, while I was heading to the local (argentinean) HP
> Service Center to change the door clip. What an irony! The display
> went dark blue (when powered on). If I pushed the display borders, I
> could even see the applications screen.

I had the exact same thing happen to my 200LX after a fall.  It's not a
screen problem (on mine, anyway) but a problem with the ribbon cable
running from the motherboard to the display.  Replacing it fixed my
problem, and that will probably fix yours, too.  Maybe somebody has a
spare ribbon cable from a broken LX they could send you.  Or, of course,
Thaddeus could repair it for the standard fee.  Good luck...

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Axel,

Thank you very much for your feedback. Hoping that's the situation (and I
explained properly before)... 'cause if not, it's sure the diagnostic mig=
ht
be another ;-)... Although, I'm already afraid just reading your lines on
what I should do. ;-) I'm not the tech-type, you know.

Then again, what should I lose ? Am I right ?

Best regards,

Carlos
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> Carlos Lacroze wrote:
> > I could even see the applications screen.
>
> In that case it is probably not mechanically broken. What I would try i=
s
> take apart the lid, carefully get out the screen assembly, check it
> visually, clean the contacts and reassemble it. If you are lucky that
> might do the trick.
> The contacts of the cable and the screen only lie flat on top of each
> other and are pressed together and held in place by the plastic casing.
> A hard jolt may well shift them slightly.
>
> Axel
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Thank you very much, Ian, for your feedback

Any mercy soul with a spare ribbon cable from a broken LX that could send=
 me
?


Carlos

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> On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Carlos Lacroze wrote:
>
> > I can't believe my bad luck. I dropped my recently bought used 200LX
> > (1 Mb) HP F1060A (spanish version) from my attache -4 feet height- a
> > couple of weeks ago, while I was heading to the local (argentinean) H=
P
> > Service Center to change the door clip. What an irony! The display
> > went dark blue (when powered on). If I pushed the display borders, I
> > could even see the applications screen.
>
> I had the exact same thing happen to my 200LX after a fall.  It's not a
> screen problem (on mine, anyway) but a problem with the ribbon cable
> running from the motherboard to the display.  Replacing it fixed my
> problem, and that will probably fix yours, too.  Maybe somebody has a
> spare ribbon cable from a broken LX they could send you.  Or, of course=
,
> Thaddeus could repair it for the standard fee.  Good luck...
>
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Ian Butler wrote:
> It's not a screen problem (on mine, anyway) but a problem
> with the ribbon cable running from the motherboard to the
> display.  Replacing it fixed my problem,

Are you quite sure? It sounds very surprising that just the very
lightest of all components should be affected by a fall, the opposite is
normally the case. Are you really sure it needed replacing and reseating
would not have doen the trick?

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On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Axel Berger wrote:

> > It's not a screen problem (on mine, anyway) but a problem > with the
> ribbon cable running from the motherboard to the > display.
> Replacing it fixed my problem,
>
> Are you quite sure? It sounds very surprising that just the very
> lightest of all components should be affected by a fall, the opposite
> is normally the case. Are you really sure it needed replacing and
> reseating would not have doen the trick?

Yes, it definitely damaged the cable somehow (although there was no
*visible* damage; I assumed one of the traces had broken or separated
inside somehow, or maybe some of them shorted out in some manner).  I
first tried cleaning and reseating the cable, and a new LCD, and the only
thing that worked was replacing the cable outright.  I tried the old cable
in another LX too, hoping that it might work in another machine for some
reason, but it did the same dark flickery thing.  Very strange ... I never
bothered to check the cable's contacts with a multimeter, but that might
give some indication of broken or shorted traces.  I'll have to see if I
still have the bad cable.

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Axel,

> Yves Leurquin wrote:
> > p.s. if a US list member is willing to volunteer
>
> Strictly limited to this list only and to reasonably small amounts (but
(...)
> I offer to post a cheque to an address given and accept repayment (...)

Many thanks for offering your help. Indeed my issue is not so much
international payment (I have a PayPal account) but physical shipping =
from
the USA.

Some US sellers refuse to take the trouble of filling the customs sticker
(CN22). They are only willing to ship to a USA address which obliges me =
to
buy only from sellers offering international shipping or to wait until my
next USA travel and organize shipment to my hotel.

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> There's a huge size difference between E0 and ES. Going all the
> way to the other extreme (EX) doesn't compression much better
> than Super Fast (ES) and you pay a huge time penalty; I guess it
> would be ok if you're backing up over night.
>
> So for backup purposes the issue (to me) is whether to back up
> as fast as possible with E0 and accept the space penalty or take
> a bit more time and save a lot of space.

I think you should probably try this on a lot of files of different
sizes and types (if  you haven't already) to really decide what
does what.  Pkzip uses different compression methods and some are
better for text and others for binary.  Also a lot of program files
have already been compressed by the compiler and maybe further
compressed with Pklite or Lzexe.

Another factor is the number and size of the files.  Compressing a
lot of small files can save huge amounts of space, even more than
the compression figures reflect, since there is the cluster size
overhead to take into account.  You probably could use the don't
compress option on 100 tiny text files and have it show no
compression but then delete the files and find you've saved a lot
of space.

Barry


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> Anyone have to sell or know where get the 1MB memory ram
> card HP 82216A or the 128K HP 82215A for the HP48GX?
>
> Any good web sites or lists dealing with the 40 series
> machines besides the museum links?

Check the super site at (http://www.hpcalc.org/)  Aside from their
downloads they have a list of vendors and it's usually not too far
out of date.  There are a some German card makers that make cards
for a lot less than the HP cards, too.

I bought 2 Cynox 2 meg cards and one went bad.  They replaced it
and another went bad and after that I didn't bother.  Shipping back
and forth to Germany was just too slow to worry with it and they
only cost about $50.  The first one I got is still going strong
several years later.

A number of others have used Cynox cards with no problems so maybe
my luck was just bad with them.  In any case there are other German
card makers at about the same price.

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After reading the "backup" posts the other day, I was
able to locate my "memory impaired" 200LX (user-installed,
but not by me, 2MB upgrade which scrambles itself) and
my "sometimes crazy screen" 100LX. Although neither of them
had a clue about what had been in them before, they both
fired up with a fresh set of AA's and a dead backup battery
and read my memory card fine. The 200LX also indicated that
it was ready and willing to transfer files for me with
CPACK. So I'll wait until one of them actually breaks
(the in-use machine has a few columns missing at the left
edge of the screen) before I ship one off to Thaddeus.
The regular machine also has a missing memory card door--it
split in half and I had a merry time pulling out the
pieces, especially the spring, but now the only problem is
that it might ingest dust if I didn't have a card in there
(but I always do). And among the three I have one whole
battery door, one with one prong, and one with none. But
life goes on!

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At 1/19/03-07:46 PM, you wrote:
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>From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
>I think you should probably try this on a lot of files of different
>sizes and types (if  you haven't already) to really decide what
>does what.  Pkzip uses different compression methods and some are
>better for text and others for binary.  Also a lot of program files
>have already been compressed by the compiler and maybe further
>compressed with Pklite or Lzexe.

AFAIK it uses one method which is based on the Huffman technique. This
assigns a shorter bit configuration to the most prevalent character in the
file, and longer bit configurations to less frequent characters in the file.

With the FAST mode it uses a premade table and therefore it is not optimal,
and can result in larger files than the compact mode which creates the
table from the data at hand. The overhead is to scan and create the table,
but you get VERY well compressed files.

>Another factor is the number and size of the files.  Compressing a
>lot of small files can save huge amounts of space, even more than
>the compression figures reflect, since there is the cluster size
>overhead to take into account.  You probably could use the don't
>compress option on 100 tiny text files and have it show no
>compression

Not so. It reads the actual file and compresses it. It does NOT compress
the cluster. I.e. the cluster overhead will not play in the size of the
zipped file.

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Date:         Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:19:36 +0200
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Hi Lx List members,

Somehow I have lost the black db9 db9 (male-male) adaptor that came with the
connectivity pack. I bought another one but it doesnt work, probably because
the internal wiring is not suitable for what I need. I need the adaptor to
connect my HPLX to my modem.

Can anyone send me the pin connections of the adaptor so that I can build one?

Thanks

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Date:         Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:59:20 +0100
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where can i find a description of the ABK files=20
used in 95LX appointment book ?
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 l'imb=E9cile regarde le doigt"

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Date:         Mon, 20 Jan 2003 04:25:22 -0800
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:22:56 +0000 (GMT), Russel Brooks wrote:

> Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> > Well, did anyone here use the latest driver versions from SUPER to set
> > up a new configuration? If not, maybe there is some bug in this
> > version? I got it from Mack as the latest he could find to put it on
> > SUPER. I'm not sure if it has been tested before.
>
> I've been using the T2T drivers that are the same as the ones on
> SUPER without any problems.
>
> 200LX
> 32M
> DS
> SC swapping to TREMM

Well..I set up my Hplx from scratch and still could not get it to work
with Tremm. I also did a Esc+On test and found no errors.

Then I rebooted for the xx time. The only difference was that I went to
to the kitchen to get a beer instead of watching the Hplx boot and
lock.

When I got back from the kitchen the Hplx worked like a charm with
Tremm...silly mistake. I had forgotten that we are using a machine with
a 80c186 processor and it takes time to init a 3.5mb Tremm.swp file.
:-)

I had assumed that the Hplx chrashed and rebooted again before Tremm
was finished.

Now I can switch between SC sessions very fast.

Thanks to all that helped.

Regards

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Date:         Mon, 20 Jan 2003 07:32:08 -0500
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I've received my 200LX back from repair at
Thaddeus, and it is nice to have the screen
and asddfghj keys working again!  I didn't
realize how fast the DS unit is until I've had
to use my old SS 100LX for two weeks.

One problem though - the Fn key does
not appear to work.  Before sending the
unit back, I remember someone here mentioning
a keyboard test that is built into the 200LX.
Could you please let me know how to
run this test?  Thanks!

Sincerely,

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who uses the 200LX. It seems they are an important community, regarding
this device. It's pretty interesting. Is there any other information
statistics about it ? >>
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We always had a relatively high percentage of subscribers in the health
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To activate the 200LX's internal test;

- Turn off the 200LX.
- Press ESC
- Then; press ON (while holding ESC key pressed)
- Then; leave ON (while holding ESC key pressed)
- Then; leave ESC

You should see a bunch of tests including a keyboard test.

Sincerely,

A. G. OZISIK



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From: "A. S. Tepper" <tepperas@ASTCOLTD.COM>
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Sent: 20 January, 2003 06:32
Subject: Keyboard test?


One problem though - the Fn key does
not appear to work.  Before sending the
unit back, I remember someone here mentioning
a keyboard test that is built into the 200LX.
Could you please let me know how to
run this test?  Thanks!

Sincerely,

A.S. Tepper

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Date:         Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:41:38 +0200
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Hi David

05h52m ago David Becher wrote:

> Somehow I have lost the black db9 db9 (male-male) adaptor that came with the
> connectivity pack. I bought another one but it doesnt work, probably because
> the internal wiring is not suitable for what I need. I need the adaptor to
> connect my HPLX to my modem.
>
> Can anyone send me the pin connections of the adaptor so that I can build one?

The CPACK-adapter is a full-featured null modem adapter.
The one you bought probably misses some handshaking lines.

Please see http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/rs232 for wirings

daniel

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Date:         Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:23:16 -0500
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Thank you for the info.  However, when I try it,
the screen contains characters, but they are
all jiggly, probably because the double-speed
driver isn't running yet.  Hitting ESC again
restarts the machine as normal.
Help?


A.S. Tepper


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Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:04
Subject: Keyboard test


> To activate the 200LX's internal test;
>
> - Turn off the 200LX.
> - Press ESC
> - Then; press ON (while holding ESC key pressed)
> - Then; leave ON (while holding ESC key pressed)
> - Then; leave ESC
>
> You should see a bunch of tests including a keyboard test.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> A. G. OZISIK
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "A. S. Tepper" <tepperas@ASTCOLTD.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: 20 January, 2003 06:32
> Subject: Keyboard test?
>
>
> One problem though - the Fn key does
> not appear to work.  Before sending the
> unit back, I remember someone here mentioning
> a keyboard test that is built into the 200LX.
> Could you please let me know how to
> run this test?  Thanks!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> A.S. Tepper
>
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http://www.storcard.com/products/prod_tech.html

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Date:         Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:52:16 +0100
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David Becher wrote:
> Can anyone send me the pin connections of the adaptor so
> that I can build one?

It is in the handbook. The cable is null-modem with crossed lines, so
you need another null-modem to re-cross them.
You connect pins 1, 5, and 9 one to one and
you cross (both ways) 2 with 3, 4 with 6, and 7 with 8.

By the way I have made adaptors of that kind. They are very fragile at
first. Filling the space between them around the wires with melted
glue-stick you get a nice sturdy unit. Remelting the surface with a hot
air gun you also get a nice, shiny, good-looking see-through surface.

Axel

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www.storcard.com

Specifications subject to change without notice, planned GA: end 2003.

Card CAPACITY: 100MB to 5GB
Dimensions: 3.37" x 2.13" x 0.03"
CONFORMANCE: Smart Card ISO7816-1
Card OS: JavaCard, Multos
Temperature Operating: 5 - 55=B0C Non-operating -20 to 60=B0C
Physical deformation: ISO7816

SECURITY
AES block encryption, key length up to 1024 bit, On-card PKI

StorReader
INTERFACE: PC Card or USB 2.0
FILE SYSTEM COMPATIBILITY: FAT16, FAT32, NTFS
SYSTEM PERFORMANCE: Data Rate 5 Mbytes/sec
Rotational Speed: 3600 rpm
Access Time (average): 15 msec

RELIABILITY
Non-recoverable error: 1 in 10**12 bits read, 1 in 10**6 seeks

POWER
Voltage 3.3V / 5.0V DC
Power Consumption: Standby <5 mw, Operating <600 mw

PHYSICAL (INCHES)
Dimension (PC Card version) 3.37" x 2.13" x 0.2"
Shock: Operating 150G, Non-operating: 1000G

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At 1/20/03-06:25 AM, Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM> wrote:
>When I got back from the kitchen the Hplx worked like a charm with
>Tremm...silly mistake. I had forgotten that we are using a machine with
>a 80c186 processor and it takes time to init a 3.5mb Tremm.swp file.
>:-)
>
>I had assumed that the Hplx chrashed and rebooted again before Tremm
>was finished.
>
>Now I can switch between SC sessions very fast.
>
>Thanks to all that helped.

Martin Bergvill:

Consider yourself FLOGGED THREE TIMES WITH A WET NOODLE!!! <vbg>

You had us worried here for a long time!!! I am personally VERY delighted
that this works now. It again points to the power of BEER. "Things go
better with beer!" This should be the slogan you should put on your
machine. <g>

Congratulations...

Avi

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Date:         Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:00:51 +0100
Reply-To:     Dzon <dzon@SOFTHOME.NET>
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Hello LXers,
I am finally gonna say Eureka! I think I'd be soon able to confirm that
WWW/LX and POST/LX, even unregistered, can be used to send SMS via
Siemens MT50 and wired connection.
The problem seems to me like ROBOT expects exactly OK as a response for
send command, but if echo is set on [ATE1], the response is, for example,
AT\rOK, not exactly OK. Maybe I am wrong and the problem is just some
garbage to rid of with some initial ATs.

Now I am finally! able to dump my phonebook from GSM and to exchange SMSs
between phone and LX, so I believe I am able to send SMSs, too. I had to
made changes on script files like this:

BEFORE the first 'send AT\r wait 10 OK' insert:
send AT\r
@ 2
send AT\r
@ 2             ; to be sure no garbage is in GSM recv queue
send ATE0\r
@ 2

and here we go! I believe I can get rid of @ 2s and maybe of some AT.

Many thanks go to [in alphabetical order ;-)))))]:

Avi Meshar      for the first help offer :)
Tony Hutchins   for really cool and useful tips
Wee-meng Lee    for sending me his [her?] working configuration to try

Thanks a lot, gonna explore POST/LX! :-)

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Date:         Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:06:33 +0100
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On 2003-01-20, Avi Meshar wrote:

>> Another factor is the number and size of the files.  Compressing a
>> lot of small files can save huge amounts of space, even more than
>> the compression figures reflect, since there is the cluster size
>> overhead to take into account.  You probably could use the don't
>> compress option on 100 tiny text files and have it show no
>> compression
>
> Not so. It reads the actual file and compresses it. It does NOT
> compress the cluster. I.e. the cluster overhead will not play in the
> size of the zipped file.

Not for the compressed file itself, but still for the disk space
"wasted" on the corresponding volume due to the cluster overhang.

To give an extreme example, say, you have hundred files each with
a file size of one byte. Let's assume a sectors/clusters ratio of
1:1 on that particular volume. Since the minimum allocation unit
in the FAT file system is one cluster, with a 1:1 ratio and a usual
sector size of 512 bytes, these hundred files will sum up to
hundred bytes in the filesystem, but in 100*512 bytes, or 50 Kb,
space allocated on the disk.
Using PKZIP's zero-compression method -e0, you will get one file
with 100 bytes content plus a few dozend bytes header info. Let's
assume the resulting file will still be below 512 bytes, so it will
occupy only 512 bytes on the disk, that is *one* allocation unit,
not hundred.
So, even when only using -e0, you will free up 49,5 Kb of disk space
now available to other files. Or in other words, zero compression
will actually compress the hundred files with an extremely good
compression ratio of 1:100 from the view-point of the disk.

Now, assume you were trying the same not on a small FAT12 volume
(where a sectors/clusters ratio of 1:1 is common), but on a FAT16B
volume larger than 1 Gb. Such a volume will (have to) use 32 Kb
clusters or 64 sectors/cluster.
Hundred files =E1 one byte each will actually occupy 100*32 Kb disk
space, that is 3,125 Mb! Combining them into one file, the resulting
file will be, again, hundred bytes plus header, that is only occupy
one cluster, or 32 Kb. So, you could save more than 3 Mb disk space
by combining them into a single file!

Of course, the bottom line remains the same, even when you try less
extreme examples, the results are just not that drastic. ;-)

Anyway, there is another purpose for the zero compression option -e0,
which is named "solid compression":

With PKZIP for DOS, try the following sequence: First use zero
compression to combine all the files you want to compress (*.TXT
here, but anything will work) into one file *without* actually
compressing it, then use maximum compression to compress the
resulting file into the final archive:

 PKZIP solid.zip *.txt -e0
 PKZIP archive1.zip solid.zip -eX

and compare the result with a simple straight-forward:

 PKZIP archive2.zip *.txt -eX

The second archive will in virtually all cases (except for pre-
compressed files) be much larger than the first one (how much
depends on size and redundancy between the files), even though
you used maximum compression in both cases.
The reason for this effect is that the compression algorithm
creates its lookup table on a file-by-file base (to make
decompressing a single file easier). Since there usually is
more redundancy over a large group of files, the use of solid
compression will result in smaller archives.

Of course, this is not limited in any way to PKZIP, but works
with all archivers unless they already use solid compression
(for example, RAR does).

Greetings,

 Matthias

BTW. PKZIP 2.50 for DOS has a new switch named -eXX for "extreme"
     maximum compression. It will give even better results.

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:53:20 -0600, Avi Meshar wrote:

> Martin Bergvill:
>
> Consider yourself FLOGGED THREE TIMES WITH A WET NOODLE!!! <vbg>

Avi

The flogging is accepted and well deserved :-)

> You had us worried here for a long time!!! I am personally VERY delighted
> that this works now.

A year ago I also had trouble. Then I got "Error #1" and could not get
anything to work. This time I tried with the latest files and the error
was me.

> It again points to the power of BEER. "Things go
> better with beer!" This should be the slogan you should put on your
> machine. <g>

I am not sure if it is importent, but I had Carlsberg..("probably the
best beer in the world").. :-)

> Congratulations...

Thanks..

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Date:         Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:52:20 +0100
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hplxmail@alwaysafe.com wrote:
> - I don't care who said what as long as what was said was correct.

Accepted. But what you wrote was:

> >Avi Meshar wrote:
> > > Not so.

when in fact the post you replied to was entirely correct. Though I
might as well point that out, and I have, so that's that. Done.

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Hi Deniel,

I wish to congratulations you on a project well executed.  Good job.

Best Regards,
Alfred

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hi Axel,

On 20 Jan 2003 at 17:52, Axel Berger wrote:

>
> By the way I have made adaptors of that kind. They are very fragile at
> first. Filling the space between them around the wires with melted
> glue-stick you get a nice sturdy unit. Remelting the surface with a hot
> air gun you also get a nice, shiny, good-looking see-through surface.
>

nice idea.
I made nulmodem adapters with a commercial available house, which has
room for two DB9 plugs on each side and about 3cm room in between for
the cables. There a models with snap in construction and other with
screws. If you have the choice, always take the housing with screws,
the snap in type is difficult to open. You need three hands for this.

Werner

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Thanks to all the list members for the prompt replies and offers.

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Axel Berger wrote:

something that did not belong here. Sorry folks, often i forget the
reply munging needed here and then I go and inadvertantly do it where I
ought not to.

Envisage me eating humble pie.

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Tue, 21.01.03 2:09 PM +0200

Hi friends,

I just found a quite convenient way to make PDF files readable on the
palmtop.
"ImageMagick" contains a command-line tool "convert", which can read
PDF and write PCX, so a simple command
convert file.pdf file.pcx
converts a PDF to PCX, so it is readable using LXPIC on the palmtop.

ImageMagick is available for Linux and Windows, it is OpenSource, so
maybe it (or at least the convert utility) can even be ported
to DOS/186? :-)

http://www.imagemagick.org

daniel



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I've stumbled across a F1023A connector/adapter kit for the HPLX or
HP48.
It contains three DB9-DB25 adapters for printer/modem/moniter, one
DB9-DB9 adapter and the adapter to connect a HP48 to the LX connectivity
cable.
It could be yours for $10 plus shipping.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Avi Meshar" <hplxmail@ALWAYSAFE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: Pkzip speed vs. space


> At 1/19/03-07:46 PM, you wrote:
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
> >I think you should probably try this on a lot of files of
different
> >sizes and types (if  you haven't already) to really decide what
> >does what.  Pkzip uses different compression methods and some
are
> >better for text and others for binary.  Also a lot of program
files
> >have already been compressed by the compiler and maybe further
> >compressed with Pklite or Lzexe.
>
> AFAIK it uses one method which is based on the Huffman technique.
This
> assigns a shorter bit configuration to the most prevalent
character in the
> file, and longer bit configurations to less frequent characters
in the file.
>
> With the FAST mode it uses a premade table and therefore it is
not optimal,
> and can result in larger files than the compact mode which
creates the
> table from the data at hand. The overhead is to scan and create
the table,
> but you get VERY well compressed files.

I read an article by Phil Katz when one of the earlier versions of
PKzip was released that explained that there are several variations
that might be used, depending on the type of file.  I think there
was even, at that time, an option to let the program determine and
use the most space efficient method for that particular data group.

That was a few years ago and I don't remember any details or how
significant this was.  I think the article came with one of the old
Pkzip versions, so if you have some of the older ones in your
archives you might be able to find it.

> >Another factor is the number and size of the files.  Compressing
a
> >lot of small files can save huge amounts of space, even more
than
> >the compression figures reflect, since there is the cluster size
> >overhead to take into account.  You probably could use the don't
> >compress option on 100 tiny text files and have it show no
> >compression
>
> Not so. It reads the actual file and compresses it. It does NOT
compress
> the cluster. I.e. the cluster overhead will not play in the size
of the
> zipped file.

I'm assuming that you then delete the uncompressed files.  Then
cluster overhead affects the space saving.  I guess this isn't
significant in a backup if you don't delete the files, but it is
very significant if you're just zipping things to save space.
Which I do.

Barry

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: Pkzip speed vs. space


> Anyway, there is another purpose for the zero compression
option -e0,
> which is named "solid compression":
>
> With PKZIP for DOS, try the following sequence: First use zero
> compression to combine all the files you want to compress (*.TXT
> here, but anything will work) into one file *without* actually
> compressing it, then use maximum compression to compress the
> resulting file into the final archive:
>
>  PKZIP solid.zip *.txt -e0
>  PKZIP archive1.zip solid.zip -eX
>
> and compare the result with a simple straight-forward:
>
>  PKZIP archive2.zip *.txt -eX
>
> The second archive will in virtually all cases (except for pre-
> compressed files) be much larger than the first one (how much
> depends on size and redundancy between the files), even though
> you used maximum compression in both cases.
> The reason for this effect is that the compression algorithm
> creates its lookup table on a file-by-file base (to make
> decompressing a single file easier). Since there usually is
> more redundancy over a large group of files, the use of solid
> compression will result in smaller archives.

Good idea!  Thanks for thinking of that.

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Date:         Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:27:33 +0100
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After Werner had answered (and disagreed for that matter) I noticed that
this comment too should have gone to the group and not only to him:

"Dr. Werner Furlan" wrote:
> a commercial available house, which has
> room for two DB9 plugs on each side and about 3cm room
> in between for the cables.

Yes I have one of those. It came with some used stuff and originally
contained something with 15 pin VGA plugs. But I would not dream of
buying them. Pure gold handmade by Rolex is not exactly necessary and
according to the prices there is no other kind around.

Axel

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I am interested in ordering a Backlight kit from Stefan Kaechele. However,
when I go to get am International MO from the US Post Office, I found that
they do not issue International MO's for Germany. They suggested a bank?

Any Idea how I can get payment to Stefan for a 200lx Backlight kit?
BTW- I don't have a Paypal acct.:-(

Thanks for any help!

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Date:         Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:45:47 -0800
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Daniel,

Thanks for pointing out this free and useful program suite!  Being able to
easily make PDF's into PCX files for use on the LX would be quite
handy.  However, at least on my office Dell running Win2000Pro, setting up
the conversion as you described [[convert file.pdf file.pcx]] did not work
(this was done in Command Prompt window).

Specifically, I wanted to convert the HP200LX PDF User's Guide into PCX
format.  Hence, the command line was:

convert HP200LX.PDF HP200LX.PCX

What I got was the following error message:    "convert: Postscript
delegate failed (hp200lx.pdf)"

I also tried this with few other PDF files and got the same message (only
the file names were different).  On the other hand, as detailed on the
ImageMagick website, there are loads of command line options to use with
CONVERT, so with the right choices, this will presumably work.  So if
someone can figure this out and post the results, that would be great.

Martin :)


At 03:01 PM 1/21/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>Tue, 21.01.03 2:09 PM +0200
>
>Hi friends,
>
>I just found a quite convenient way to make PDF files readable on the
>palmtop.
>"ImageMagick" contains a command-line tool "convert", which can read
>PDF and write PCX, so a simple command
>convert file.pdf file.pcx
>converts a PDF to PCX, so it is readable using LXPIC on the palmtop.
>
>ImageMagick is available for Linux and Windows, it is OpenSource, so
>maybe it (or at least the convert utility) can even be ported
>to DOS/186? :-)
>
>http://www.imagemagick.org
>
>daniel
>
>
>
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:00:48 -0800
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LX people,

I use a 2mb 200LX with a large PC card where most of the programs I use are
installed, so my C: drive has a lot of free space.  Being able to use that
space as simulated EMS 4.0 memory would be quite nice, hence my interest in
EMM200 which can be found on SUPER.  On the other hand, the documentation
makes it quite clear more than once that there are "risks" involved with
it's use.  It seems like if one follows the set up process described and
leaves the EMS paging file (EMM200.DAT) alone, things would be fine.  But
before I got ahead and give this a try, does anyone here care to comment on
their experiences actually using EMM200 on their LX's?  Over time, has it
been stable on your systems?  Or is this something that seems like a nice
idea but actually proved to be problematic in use?

Thanks,
Martin :)

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Date:         Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:08:30 -0800
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LX people,

For those who have experience with both programs, what are the
advantages/disadvantages of SC vs DV?  I have copies of both and have been
contemplating trying them on my single-speed 2mb 200LX.  Yes, I know this
sort of things would be much simpler after a DS & memory upgrade (something
to take card of someday), but in the meantime, if I can make this work, it
would be great.

Thanks,
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:37:00 -0700
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It might be necessary to have GhostScript also on your computer. There was
something to that effect on the ImageMagic web site, but I don't have time
today to check it out.

Daniel, do you have Ghostscript on your computer?

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin G. Ramirez [mailto:mramirez@LMU.EDU]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:46 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: PDF to PCX conversion


Daniel,

Thanks for pointing out this free and useful program suite!  Being able to
easily make PDF's into PCX files for use on the LX would be quite
handy.  However, at least on my office Dell running Win2000Pro, setting up
the conversion as you described [[convert file.pdf file.pcx]] did not work
(this was done in Command Prompt window).

Specifically, I wanted to convert the HP200LX PDF User's Guide into PCX
format.  Hence, the command line was:

convert HP200LX.PDF HP200LX.PCX

What I got was the following error message:    "convert: Postscript
delegate failed (hp200lx.pdf)"

I also tried this with few other PDF files and got the same message (only
the file names were different).  On the other hand, as detailed on the
ImageMagick website, there are loads of command line options to use with
CONVERT, so with the right choices, this will presumably work.  So if
someone can figure this out and post the results, that would be great.

Martin :)
<snip>

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On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Feldman, Robert wrote:

> It might be necessary to have GhostScript also on your computer. There was
> something to that effect on the ImageMagic web site, but I don't have time
> today to check it out.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin G. Ramirez [mailto:mramirez@LMU.EDU]

<snip>

> convert HP200LX.PDF HP200LX.PCX
>
> What I got was the following error message:    "convert: Postscript
> delegate failed (hp200lx.pdf)"

Yes, it requires ghostscript (the postscript delegate) to do the
conversion. However even with ghostscript the conversion still
fails for me. Perhaps it is the size of the document. I
extracted about 10 pages as a test and was able to convert that,
but when I try the whole document it works for a while, then
simply says "Killed" and there is no output. Might have to be
done in small chunks but it looks like it would work.

Maybe in the case of the LX manual it would make more sense to
convert to html though instead of 460 pcx files.

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Date:         Tue, 21 Jan 2003 23:07:17 -0600
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From:         Tim <palmtop@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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Hi all,

This is a weird request; AND, if anyone thinks this is "cracking" (bad
hacking), let me know, I've no interest in doing something wrong(!). I'm
just trying to remember how to access a doc. on a website, when the creator
has mistyped the url.

I was hunting for a .PDF regarding some equipment. Found it(!), then when
typing the link and/or "save as" I get a document not found error. I
remember some Internet guru say you could "flip" a website (get ALL the
content of their PUBLICLY accessible directories by using certain programs
or techniques. This way, if you had a lazy person who left old .html pages
on a site, but just unlinked them, you could retrieve them. You could also
get all the graphics or documents that had a broken URL (as in this case). I
have no idea if "flipping" was her term or not. I found several references
to it, but no one saying HOW. BTW, this could be useful for offline reading
too; but, in this case, I'm after the target of a broken link (if it's
there).

Since their office is closed, and in a dif. state, I can't just call up the
webmaster and say, "Hey, your link is broken" (email is an alternative, but
I wanted to be doing some work, for the office, now and not wait for another
person's "work cycle" to affect mine).

Anyway, anyone know how to do this? [[and, is it still considered ethical?
All the references I found regarding flipping were on business recruitment
and job hunting service sites....]]

Since I was looking for a .pdf, I *might* have converted it for the LX
<grin> to read later (getting a little on-topic in my fluff!), to see the
resolution possible on the LX

I was also trying to take a PDF and convert it in PhotoShop, to something I
can read on the LX. Working on the same project, I found a less suitable
.PDF, "rasterizing it" in Photoshop CAN make a HUGE file (depending on the
settings) It only takes one page at a time; in this case of a 248K, 6 page
.PDF. I picked page 2 and made one 128 MB file! Then, after converting to
RGB and PCX, it was only about 15MB and I couldn't seem to get LXPIC to show
it... OR, it may have been so huge that I was seeing the top left-hand
corner and it was all gray (possible).

What sort of settings have people had luck with? I can't imagine it's good
to increase the size of your PDF by a good thousand-fold; then expect to use
it on your LX....

TIA for input on both topics!

--tim

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More PDF <-> PCX....

I just had a "BFO" (Blinding Flash of the Obvious), that might actually be
"dumb" <grin> but could be helpful.

Is there an easy program that will let you print to muti-page (and prob.
multi-named) PCX files?

I was just thinking, since it's easy to open PDFs on computers, and half of
my PDF *creation* is printing to the PDF application, is there a program
that would let you print to a file and specify some output parameters (like
resolution, file-names of the pages, etc.)?

I haven't touched "GhostScript" can it do this? I have an "experimental"
computer loaded w/ Linux (Mandrake 9.0), etc.... It's got a program called
KGhostView in it's KDE file viewing tools that can view PDFs quite well.
That system can write to PostScript files (which took a 254KB PDF and made a
1.1 MB PS file.... Can anything on the LX read big PostScript files easily,
or is it just easier to use Daniel's utility? <<I'll try compiling that on a
free weekend!>>

The sudden flurry of PDF <-> PCX messages made me experiment a bit; so far
I've succeeded in making smooth, pretty PDF files into ugly, larger, blocky
documents. Thank goodness I'm not in gene therapy or pharmaceuticals!

I'll watch this topic (and my other one) for more info.

TIA for anything!

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On Wednesday 22 January 2003 12:37 am, I wrote:
> Is there an easy program that will let you print to muti-page (and prob=
=2E
> multi-named) PCX files?

Looking at this, I can tell I'm not clear....I don't think PCX files can =
be=20
"multi-layered" like rollover graphics, etc.

I mean, if you have a multi-page PDF, is there a program that would let y=
ou=20
print straight to multiple PCX files?=20

You could have "Manual.PDF" and specify printing to "Manp~n.pcx" and the =
"~n"=20
would be incremented for the number of pages; so=20

Page 1 =3D manp1.pcx
Page 2 =3D manp2.pcx
etc.

And, if the program were REALLY friendly, you could specify some of the=20
parameters of the output quality.

Anyway, I'll expect email from Daniel saying, THAT'S what the program I f=
ound=20
will do <grin>.

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On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 23:07:17 -0600 Tim wrote:
>Anyway, anyone know how to do this? [[and, is it still considered ethical?

I'm not sure whether you're talking about something more complex, but
often a web site is set up so that you can read the directory of its
contents by just leaving off the file name. For example, at
www.palmtop.net, there's a link called "Top 20 Downloads", which
points to http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/topfiles.pl. If you just
enter "http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/" as the address in your
browser, you'll see a listing of all the files in that directory.

Often, this doesn't work because the administrator has specifically
disallowed it. Especially in the cgi-bin directory - I'm surprised
that they haven't done so.

It also won't work in the root directory of a site, because if you
just ask for the domain name, the server interprets that as a request
for the default file, usually index.html. And sometimes subdirectories
have their own default files to return instead of a listing.

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On Wednesday 22 January 2003 12:46 am, Curtis Cameron wrote:
> I'm not sure whether you're talking about something more complex, but
> often a web site is set up so that you can read the directory of its
> contents by just leaving off the file name.
<snip>
I *thought* I could do that once!

> Often, this doesn't work because the administrator has specifically
> disallowed it. Especially in the cgi-bin directory - I'm surprised
> that they haven't done so.

They have. I tried the "type partial path - trick" and, when it didn't wo=
rk, I=20
thought I'd remembered it wrong. Aside from just the administrator=20
disallowing it, I got some message about "virtual paths" not allowing=20
directory listings; so the documents may not even be where the link says =
they=20
are....=20

I guess the net is more advanced, as are safeguards, in these days of peo=
ple=20
wanting to deface websites.... I'd tried FTP, then realized that ANY smar=
t=20
amin. would block that to keep vandals out. I only want to READ the file =
I'm=20
after, not upload anything new, but I'll bet they have to bolt that door =
down=20
tightly and even lock out read-access....

Thanks...

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GhostView is a front end viewer for Ghostscript.to learn about
Ghostscript type "man ghostscript" in a terminal window of your Linux
system. To get a (long) list of output devices supported by your version
of ghostscript type ghostscript -h. My copy offers the following pcx
versions: pcxmono, pcxgray, pcx16, pcx256, pcx24b and pcxcmyk.Sample use
is as follows:

gs -sDevice=pcxmono -sOutputFile=foo%d.pcx foo.pdf

where foo.pdf is the input file and foo%d.pcx causes each page in
foo.pcx to have its own pcx file named foo1.pcx, foo2.pcx etc.

GaryS

On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 21:37, Tim wrote:
> More PDF <-> PCX....
>
> I just had a "BFO" (Blinding Flash of the Obvious), that might actually be
> "dumb" <grin> but could be helpful.
>
> Is there an easy program that will let you print to muti-page (and prob.
> multi-named) PCX files?
>
> I was just thinking, since it's easy to open PDFs on computers, and half of
> my PDF *creation* is printing to the PDF application, is there a program
> that would let you print to a file and specify some output parameters (like
> resolution, file-names of the pages, etc.)?
>
> I haven't touched "GhostScript" can it do this? I have an "experimental"
> computer loaded w/ Linux (Mandrake 9.0), etc.... It's got a program called
> KGhostView in it's KDE file viewing tools that can view PDFs quite well.
> That system can write to PostScript files (which took a 254KB PDF and made a
> 1.1 MB PS file.... Can anything on the LX read big PostScript files easily,
> or is it just easier to use Daniel's utility? <<I'll try compiling that on a
> free weekend!>>
>
> The sudden flurry of PDF <-> PCX messages made me experiment a bit; so far
> I've succeeded in making smooth, pretty PDF files into ugly, larger, blocky
> documents. Thank goodness I'm not in gene therapy or pharmaceuticals!
>
> I'll watch this topic (and my other one) for more info.
>
> TIA for anything!
>
> --tim
>
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Hi!

ACE used to market BattMan: a battery management tool that
allows the use of NiCd/NiMH batteries on the 95LX. Some time ago
I ordered this tool from Thaddeus, but they sent me the 100/200LX
version. They don't carry the 95LX version on stock anymore.
Does anybody still has this tool around somewhere ? Maybe this
has become abandonware in the mean time ?

Thanks
Christian



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PC Magazine had a utility that does this. Came out several years ago, and I
don't remember the name, but you should be able to find it. There probably
are other such programs on Simtel, too.

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Hi all,

<snip> I
remember some Internet guru say you could "flip" a website (get ALL the
content of their PUBLICLY accessible directories by using certain programs
or techniques. <snip>

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Hi Daniel,

I want to thank you and all those involved again for doing a great job.

I too have a little concern about the contrast of the display.  I don't know
how difficult would it be but I was wondering if you or some one else
could take a high resolution picture (no flash) of two LXs under normal
room light condition (no direct light source, just diffused), one with  the
backlight installed but turned off and one unmodified.  Such a picture
probably will very well show the change in contrast since both units
are in the same picture so will have the same exposure.  And perhaps
another picture in darker condition with the backlight turned on.  I
really appreciate your work.

Best Regards,
Alfred Lee


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Date: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: Backlight news


>Hi Barry
>
>16h24m ago Barry wrote:
>
>> I meant with the light on there doesn't seem to be enough contrast.
>> I realize pictures can mislead in a case like this and that's
>> really what I'm asking about.  It seems, from the picture, that
>> it's bright enough but there isn't enough contrast to be
>> comfortable with the light on.  Is this really the way it looks?
>
>The picture shows my prototype machine. This one has a very bright
>backlight. As I mentioned earlier, we have optimized everything, the
>backlight is now darker, much more power-economic and thus a lot better
>than this one whiwn on the picture, also the contrast with enabled
>backlight is much better, because of the darker backlight.
>
>Maybe I should take a new picture with the new backlight, but I don't
>have a machine upgraded with that one yet, which can be used as a model
>for a nice photo. ;-) As soon as I have such a machine, I will take a
>new picture, which hopefully will represent the real contrast
>conditions more precisely.
>
>daniel
>
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There is a whole page of such programs at:

http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/active/html/type.html

I have used Templeton with good success under OS/2.
There also used to be a couple of web based sites into which
you could put your URL and it would do 'diagnostics'
to tell you how quickly pages loaded and/or missing
links.

>
> From: "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman@JDEDWARDS.COM>

>
> PC Magazine had a utility that does this. Came out several years ago, and I
> don't remember the name, but you should be able to find it. There probably
> are other such programs on Simtel, too.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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Hi Tim

01h03m ago Tim wrote:

> I was also trying to take a PDF and convert it in PhotoShop, to something I
> can read on the LX. Working on the same project, I found a less suitable
> .PDF, "rasterizing it" in Photoshop CAN make a HUGE file (depending on the
> settings) It only takes one page at a time; in this case of a 248K, 6 page
> .PDF. I picked page 2 and made one 128 MB file! Then, after converting to
> RGB and PCX, it was only about 15MB and I couldn't seem to get LXPIC to show
> it... OR, it may have been so huge that I was seeing the top left-hand
> corner and it was all gray (possible).

Proably. The PCX only needs a resolution of about 200dpi (fax
resolution) or - if no small fonts are used in the PDF, even 150 or 100
dpi may be enough. This should result in a  PCX file not larger than a
few kB.

Daniel

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Hello all,

If you have Ghostscript installed, you can use it's optional GUI, the GSView
4.3 to "File Menu / Convert" a PDF to PCX or BMP or TIFF or JPG or PNG. You do
not have to have imagemagick.

http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/

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Hi all,

Seeing a few German residents here, and everybody being nerdy about hardware
devices and possible CeBIT-veterans, I thought I would ask a few questions
here.

Cebit is now from Wednesday to Wednesday in March. My idea was to go with
1-2-3 friends, max 4 people, either by ferry or train from Oslo, Norway to
Kiel and then to Hannover. The 'official' tour price is a little too much, if
I could half it by driving down and finding a nearby hotel I'd be happy, so I
was wondering about a few things:

How many days should one set aside? 2-3 days? Say Thursday to Sunday?

There seems to be a train station right near the exhibition, any nearby towns
or hotels that would be nice to stay at? Or is it a better idea to drive the
car to the exhibition area?

Are all the hotels fully booked, is there any way of finding which hotels have
rooms available, on the net? I expect everything is booked in Hannover and the
suburbs?

What about renting an apartment for a few days?

Any good tips?


tia+br Franklin

ps

Taking the package tour, with plane ride and a hotel is a bit too much, and
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Hi Alfred

02h42m ago Willnotreply GMX wrote:

> I too have a little concern about the contrast of the display.  I don't know
> how difficult would it be but I was wondering if you or some one else
> could take a high resolution picture (no flash) of two LXs under normal
> room light condition (no direct light source, just diffused), one with  the

I will take such pictures soon, at the moment I don't have an LX
upgraded with the backlight kit as it is sold, my own one is upgraded
with another foil, so it has slightly different contrast.

But I have several of the actual backlight kits lying on my desk,
waiting to be built into palmtops.
I hope that I will have the time to do all these remaining things
(upgrading one LX with the actual kit, taking some pictures, installing
the backligt upgrade for Konstantin v. Witzleben, who kindly gave me one of
his backup LXs for research and so on) next week.


My personal opinion is (have I said that already?) that one gets used
to the decreased contrast quite soon, in very bright light the
backlight-upgraded palmtop is even better readable than the normal one,
because the EL foil sort of softens the pixels a bit. It appears
smoother. This is a disadvantage in not-so-good light conditions,
though.

The definition of "normal light conditions" is difficult. Sitting in
the Underground train at the moment, I can perfectly read the display
without backlight, but when I sit in the laboratory in University,
where the light is not that bright, I have to turn on the backlight.
Outside (winter and grey sky but no snow here at the moment) it is often
not necessary to use the backlight, since the light is diffused, but
bright.

At home on the desk I could adjust the desk lamp so that I don't need
backlight, but since I have AC power there anyway, I most often use the
backlight.

BTW: Another thing to consider is the lifetime of the EL foil used to
backlight the screen. The foil gets darker with time.
But we have optimized also in that respect: Stefan Kaechele uses an EL
foil which is actually _very_ bright if used as specified, but he
drives it with a lower voltage and with lower AC frequency, so the
lifetime is drastically increased.
In addition, using the upgrading technique I developed, the EL foil can
relatively easily be replaced if necessary, because it is not glued
to the LCD.
I am not sure about the actual lifetime of the EL foil, but I seem to
remember it is something like 5000-10000 hours of operation when used
as specified, so here it should be a lot more.

daniel


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Hi Martin

1 day 01h59m ago Martin G. Ramirez wrote:

> Specifically, I wanted to convert the HP200LX PDF User's Guide into PCX
> format.  Hence, the command line was:
>
> convert HP200LX.PDF HP200LX.PCX
>
> What I got was the following error message:    "convert: Postscript
> delegate failed (hp200lx.pdf)"

I also get that error sometimes. Seems to have something to do with the
file size, or maybe with the contents. I haven't used ImageMagick a
lot, I just found that method to convert PDF and thought I should point
that out.
Here it cannot be caused by missing Ghostscript, because I have
installed that.

> the file names were different).  On the other hand, as detailed on the
> ImageMagick website, there are loads of command line options to use with
> CONVERT, so with the right choices, this will presumably work.  So if
> someone can figure this out and post the results, that would be great.

How about you? ;-)


daniel

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1 day 16m ago Michael Kopplin wrote:

> Maybe in the case of the LX manual it would make more sense to
> convert to html though instead of 460 pcx files.

Probably.
It always depends on if you only need the text or also the graphics.
For presentation slides, for example, it will be more useful to convert
th PCX. Or for data sheets of electronic components, for example

daniel


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Hi Tamas,

re:
>If you have Ghostscript installed, you can use it's optional GUI, the
GSView
>4.3 to "File Menu / Convert" a PDF to PCX or BMP or TIFF or JPG or PNG. You
do
>not have to have imagemagick.

I installed Ghostscript and its GUI on my WinXP machine and tried to convert
a pdf and got a pretty strange error:

-----
AFPL Ghostscript 8.00 (2002-11-21)
Copyright (C) 2002 artofcode LLC, Benicia, CA.  All rights reserved.
This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details.
Unrecoverable error: invalidfileaccess in file
Operand stack:
    C:\4transfer\My Documents\ADVO\Conroe-ac\escan.pdf  r
gsapi_execute_cont returns -9
gsapi_exit returns 0
------

I'll "admit" I just did a "google" search for Ghost Script and downloaded
the latest versions I could find. Could I have gotten a Beta-test that
hasn't gotten all the bugs shaken out?

TIA,

--tim

PS. I actually liked the GSViewer's interpretation of the PDF better than
the Adobe PDF reader's version; so we're headed in a direction that my eyes
like a lot <grin>.

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Hi Martin,

>For those who have experience with both programs, what are the
>advantages/disadvantages of SC vs DV?  I have copies of both and have
been
>contemplating trying them on my single-speed 2mb 200LX.  Yes, I know
this
>sort of things would be much simpler after a DS & memory upgrade
(something
>to take card of someday), but in the meantime, if I can make this work,
it
>would be great.

I have never used Software Carousel, but years ago, I used to use
DesqView on a DOS computer to run a BBS.  It worked very well.

The version of DesqView that I currently have doesn't work on the HPLX.
Maybe I'm wrong, but my understanding was that no version of DesqView
will work on the 186 based HPLX.  My copy of  DesqView is packed up in a
box somewhere here while we are waiting to make our move to a new home,
so I can't check to see if it requires a 286 or 386.  If you actually
have a version that will run on a HPLX, I would be very interested to
know where you found it.  I would love to be able to use a version of
DesqView on my HPLX. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Hello all,

On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, John J Vander Stel wrote:

> I have never used Software Carousel, but years ago, I used to use
> DesqView on a DOS computer to run a BBS.  It worked very well.

You're a lucky guy ;)

> The version of DesqView that I currently have doesn't work on the HPLX.
> Maybe I'm wrong, but my understanding was that no version of DesqView
> will work on the 186 based HPLX.  My copy of  DesqView is packed up in a
> box somewhere here while we are waiting to make our move to a new home,
> so I can't check to see if it requires a 286 or 386.  If you actually

I'm pretty sure it needs a MMU for easy multitasking and efficient memory
protection, so at least a 80286. I really don't think they developped for
the protected mode of the 80286, since the protected mode benefits
appeared with the 386, and it is way easier and faster to use the 386
protected mode than the 286 one.

> have a version that will run on a HPLX, I would be very interested to
> know where you found it.  I would love to be able to use a version of
> DesqView on my HPLX. :-)

I would love to have a version of DesqView on my old 486 laptop ;)

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Hi there

> I have never used Software Carousel, but years ago, I used to
use
> DesqView on a DOS computer to run a BBS.  It worked very well.

I never used softwrare Carousel too, but I also used DesqView on
a DOS computer to run a BBS on Fidonet as you too... Remote
Access, IMail, FrontDoor... :)

Beside, I used Desqview to multi-task my computer.... So I could
you a task to run Telix to connect to other BBS, and use another
task for running Turbo Pascal for programming....

> The version of DesqView that I currently have doesn't work on
the
> HPLX. Maybe I'm wrong, but my understanding was that no version
of
> DesqView will work on the 186 based HPLX.  My copy of  DesqView
> is packed up in a box somewhere here while we are waiting to
make
> our move to a new home, so I can't check to see if it requires
a 286 or
> 386.  If you actually
>

I don't remember what version of my Desqview is too... Properly
is 2.4 or 2.5.... But what I want to say is:  The computer that I
used to run Desqview for a BBS was an 8Mhz V20 (8088 compatible)
XT computer(!!) 640K RAM w/ 4M EMS card & a 20M Seagate ST-506
HDD & also an 8087 FPU!!

And another computer which I used to run Telix / Turbo Pascal was
an 4.77Mhz 8088 w/ 256K Base RAM + 384K RAM Card and & 10M Full
High ST-506 HDD....

Both run Desqview well!! But the limitation is that you can only
make TURE multi-tasking within the 640K... ie: you can divide two
256K box to run different program at the same time.... If the
total RAM which need by those program that run under Desqview is
exceed 512K (Since Desqview also need base RAM to handle),
desqview is simply swap another task to EMS RAM page (some like
task swapper of dosshell under DOS5 or use 8088 to run Windows
3.0 / 2.03).

If you got a VGA on your XT, you can "SPLIT" it to two "Windows"
and see 2 programs run at the same time... :)

Also, TurboEMS worked well w/ desqview on my XT in the old ages
as I remember....

> > have a version that will run on a HPLX, I would be very
interested to
> > know where you found it.  I would love to be able to use a
version of
> > DesqView on my HPLX. :-)

I haven't tried before.... Maybe I will try someday later... But
there is a problem w/ my 100LX.... So can't try now...

BTW, for 286 machine.... If you got suitable EMS manager (Such as
QRAM) and EMS card which support EMS 4.0, it can run Desqview to
make ture multi-tasking as 386 (But the limitation is all memory
need of those multi-tasked programs can't exceed EMS totaly
memory, simply speak: for 286 need ture multi-tasking, it need
hardware to support, otherwise just like running Desqview under
8088)..

Finally, sorry for my bad english... Hope the infos help.

Best regards,
Ken Yaksa - Derrick Limited I.T. Dept.
ken@apple2.com

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Date:         Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:04:10 +0800
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Dear All:

Does anyone would like to help me to find the molex plug for
100LX's COM port?

Since there is no way to buy the serial connect-cable for my
palmtop in my location.... So I would like to build one by
myself....

But sadness that I also can't locate where sould buy the molex
plug, too...

PS: I am in Hong Kong.

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> They have. I tried the "type partial path - trick" and, when it didn't wo
=
> rk, I=20
> thought I'd remembered it wrong. Aside from just the administrator=20
> disallowing it, I got some message about "virtual paths" not allowing=20
> directory listings; so the documents may not even be where the link says
=
> they=20
> are....=20

Another trick that sometimes works: Search for the document in Google, and
when it shows you the link, instead of clicking on it click on the "Cached"
link underneath it.

(This may get you to the document if the link has been mistyped or renamed
since Google last recorded it.)

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Here's a useful site in my opinion.  It stores and makes available old
site contents.  For example, the fantastic Daniel's site:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/

Alfred


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Date: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: FLUFF: "Flipping" a website... also some PDF<-> PCX.


>> They have. I tried the "type partial path - trick" and, when it didn't wo
>=
>> rk, I=20
>> thought I'd remembered it wrong. Aside from just the administrator=20
>> disallowing it, I got some message about "virtual paths" not allowing=20
>> directory listings; so the documents may not even be where the link says
>=
>> they=20
>> are....=20
>
>Another trick that sometimes works: Search for the document in Google, and
>when it shows you the link, instead of clicking on it click on the "Cached"
>link underneath it.
>
>(This may get you to the document if the link has been mistyped or renamed
>since Google last recorded it.)
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Bruce in Toronto
>
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I just started using Windows NT.   Any way to
get NT to work on My 200lx?

They keep saying how it works accross
platforms and procssors, from Pentiums
to 8086s.    So if it runs on 8086s it
should run on the 200lx, shouldnt't it?





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On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, N Knight wrote:

> I just started using Windows NT.   Any way to
> get NT to work on My 200lx?

It definitely won't work on your HP200LX.

> They keep saying how it works accross
> platforms and procssors, from Pentiums
> to 8086s.

Who is 'they'? Where did you see such statements?

> So if it runs on 8086s it
> should run on the 200lx, shouldnt't it?

If the first assumption is true, then it may work on your HP200LX (other
limiting factors might occur).

Unfortunately, Windows NT really needs a 386 or later.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:07 PM
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> Anyway, anyone know how to do this? [[and, is it still considered
ethical?
> All the references I found regarding flipping were on business
recruitment
> and job hunting service sites....]]

Go!Zilla has a leech option that will download everything in a
directory on a website.  That might do it.  It does mean installing
Go!Zilla, which is spyware unless you buy it.  But it can be
uninstalled or bought.

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No way! NT Needs a mininum of a 386 class processor.
Regards,

Jack Skelley
skelley@newjerseydevils.com


N Knight wrote:

> I just started using Windows NT.   Any way to
> get NT to work on My 200lx?
>
> They keep saying how it works accross
> platforms and procssors, from Pentiums
> to 8086s.    So if it runs on 8086s it
> should run on the 200lx, shouldnt't it?
>
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> From: Erwann ABALEA <erwann@ABALEA.COM>
> On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, N Knight wrote:

> > They keep saying how it works accross
> > platforms and procssors, from Pentiums
> > to 8086s.
>
> Who is 'they'? Where did you see such statements?

WinNT *was* multi-platform (x86, Alpha, MIPS), but all RISC platforms were dropped to put "all their wood behind one arrow", the X86 platform.

For palmtop WinNT (NT 4.0), it can run on the IBM PC110, a 486-based palmtop computer...

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On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Ken Hansen wrote:

> > From: Erwann ABALEA <erwann@ABALEA.COM>
> > On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, N Knight wrote:
>
> > > They keep saying how it works accross
> > > platforms and procssors, from Pentiums
> > > to 8086s.
> >
> > Who is 'they'? Where did you see such statements?
>
> WinNT *was* multi-platform (x86, Alpha, MIPS), but all RISC platforms
> were dropped to put "all their wood behind one arrow", the X86 platform.

You're right, but I didn't know about the MIPS version, only the
Intel+Alpha ones. But it's clear that Windows NT doesn't run on less than
a 80386 processor ;)

> For palmtop WinNT (NT 4.0), it can run on the IBM PC110, a 486-based palmtop computer...

Is it really a palmtop computer? Can you really carry it with you and play
with it on your way to work? I haven't seen any of these machines...

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Daniel & everyone,

After installing Ghostscript, I was able to do several conversions using
the ImageMagick CONVERT program.  I used the -MONOCHROME option, which
produced PCX files that were easily readable using LXPIC on my 200LX.  For
example, an 8-page PDF product flyer from the SanDisk website (315,730kb)
was turned into 8 PCX files which were all between 12 - 30kb in size.  The
command line in this case was:

CONVERT -MONOCHROME SANDISK.PDF SANDISK.PCX

Of course, having multiple PCX files in place of what used to be a single
PDF file could get cumbersome.  What would be nice is PDF conversion to a
single file that could be viewed with LXPIC (or something else?) on the LX
(would HTML format fill the bill in this regard?).  Any thoughts?

Martin :)


At 11:05 PM 1/22/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi Martin
>
>1 day 01h59m ago Martin G. Ramirez wrote:
>
> > Specifically, I wanted to convert the HP200LX PDF User's Guide into PCX
> > format.  Hence, the command line was:
> >
> > convert HP200LX.PDF HP200LX.PCX
> >
> > What I got was the following error message:    "convert: Postscript
> > delegate failed (hp200lx.pdf)"
>
>I also get that error sometimes. Seems to have something to do with the
>file size, or maybe with the contents. I haven't used ImageMagick a
>lot, I just found that method to convert PDF and thought I should point
>that out.
>Here it cannot be caused by missing Ghostscript, because I have
>installed that.
>
> > the file names were different).  On the other hand, as detailed on the
> > ImageMagick website, there are loads of command line options to use with
> > CONVERT, so with the right choices, this will presumably work.  So if
> > someone can figure this out and post the results, that would be great.
>
>How about you? ;-)
>
>
>daniel
>
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 > From: Erwann ABALEA <erwann@ABALEA.COM>

> On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Ken Hansen wrote:

> > For palmtop WinNT (NT 4.0), it can run on the IBM PC110, a 486-based palmtop computer...
>
> Is it really a palmtop computer? Can you really carry it
> with you and play with it on your way to work? I haven't
> seen any of these machines...

See http://pc110.ro.nu/ (incl. links to other sites)

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Tim:

Sorry I missed your original post. Has anyone mentioned using the
full version of Adobe Acrobat. It allows you to download material
from a web site with lots of options and puts it into a pdf file
which you can name anything you want, modify it, and it works just
like the web site with all links - on your system or someone
else's if you transfer it to a CDR. You do need to be careful
about how much you tell it to acquire as you can end up with some
really big files. I have used it to acquire several gigabytes of
material from different sites into one pdf file.
As Ever,
Orin Keplinger
near Chicago
orink@ix.netcom.com

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> ----- Original Message -----
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>Of course, having multiple PCX files in place of what used to be a single
>PDF file could get cumbersome.  What would be nice is PDF conversion to a
>single file that could be viewed with LXPIC (or something else?) on the LX
>(would HTML format fill the bill in this regard?).  Any thoughts?
>
>Martin :)
>> > Specifically, I wanted to convert the HP200LX PDF User's Guide into PCX
>> > format.  Hence, the command line was:
>> >
>> > convert HP200LX.PDF HP200LX.PCX

Hi all

This is in 2 parts.

Firstly, Daniel and all I have the HPLX Manual in TXT format for anyone
that wants it please send an email with HPLXMAN as the subject and I'll
gladly send it. No diagrams but all the info is there. The txt file is 603K
and is zipped to 180K as against the PDF at 4MB from memory. I keep a
zipped copy on my LX for reference. I originally converted the PDF to txt
via the disability section of the adobe website. I believe its used in the
text to speech machines therefore PDF>>TXT>>Verbal for sight impared people.

Secondly, Why not Zip the multiple PCX files and view with something like
Shez? (pkzip frontend) I found this program to be very fast and easy to use
in the past. LXPic could be specified as the viewer to use and therefore it
would be highlight and hit enter to view whatever file in the Zip whilst
managing related files easily.

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Hi Erwann,

You can have mine: DESQview 2.2 on a 5.25 in. floppy,  Also a 206 page
Manual referring to v.2.0 and a 19 page upgrade manual to bring it up to
date for v.2.2.

Tell me if you need it on a 3.5 in floppy. My old 5.25 in. drive is, I hope,
still working

The lot weighs just 19oz. (539 gr.). You just need to pay the postage at
Irish postage rates, Eur 15 for priority ($16) and Eur 6.9 ($7.38)  for
economy over 500gr but under 1Kg. If you don't need the manuals, postage
would be just $1.00 priority.

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>>
> I would love to have a version of DesqView on my old 486 laptop ;)
>

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Hi there,

Where are you??? Is the postage cost for international?


> You can have mine: DESQview 2.2 on a 5.25 in. floppy,  Also a
206
> page Manual referring to v.2.0 and a 19 page upgrade manual to
> bring it up to date for v.2.2.
>
> Tell me if you need it on a 3.5 in floppy. My old 5.25 in.
drive is, I
> hope, still working
>
> The lot weighs just 19oz. (539 gr.). You just need to pay the
postage
> at Irish postage rates, Eur 15 for priority ($16) and Eur 6.9
($7.38)  for
> economy over 500gr but under 1Kg. If you don't need the
manuals,
> postage would be just $1.00 priority.

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Ken Yaksa - Derrick Limited I.T. Dept.
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On Thursday 23 January 2003 04:47 pm, Orin Keplinger wrote:
> Tim:
>
> Sorry I missed your original post. Has anyone mentioned using the
> full version of Adobe Acrobat. It allows you to download material
> from a web site with lots of options and puts it into a pdf file
> which you can name anything you want, modify it, and it works just
> like the web site with all links - ...

Wow. Hi Orin,

I've never used Acrobat that way .... I'd appreciate more info about how =
to do=20
it (I've got the full ver. of 4.something). Since I'm a typical guy who h=
as=20
no earthly use for a manual <grin>, is this use easily found and used?

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Tim wrote:

> I installed Ghostscript and its GUI on my WinXP machine and
> tried to convert
> a pdf and got a pretty strange error:

> Unrecoverable error: invalidfileaccess in file

   Check the documentation for the SAFER option.  It is
on by default, and prevents access to the disk by a PDF
(or PostScript) document to save you from malicious
programs.  If you have further problems along this line,
check Google Groups comp.lang postscript.  The SAFER
option was off by default in earlier versions, and is on
in current versions.  It rates as a "Frequently Asked
Question" on that group.

> I'll "admit" I just did a "google" search for Ghost Script
> and downloaded
> the latest versions I could find. Could I have gotten a
> Beta-test that
> hasn't gotten all the bugs shaken out?

   Don't think that is likely, but you didn't say where
you got it.

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On 16 Jan 2003 at 10:33, Niels wrote:

> >> The dual-function CF cards with 128MB of capacity will be priced at
> $129.95 while the dual-function 256MB SD cards will be priced at $149.95. <<
>
> compared to the eur80 for a standard WiFi-card and prices of eur55 for a
> 128mb cf card or eur110 for 256 I would say this is dirt cheap. (The
> cf-prices are for Dane-Elec cf-cards, Sandisk 128mb is eur84!!!! at
> Conrad...).
>
>
> no word on powerconsumption though, and nothing about drivers as wel... I
> wonder if a WiFi card is NE2000 compatible but actually I'm afraid it is
> not.

The User and Installation Guide is available at www.sandisk.com. It says that
the card can be used only with:

Pocket PC, Pocket PC 2002, HPC 2000 or Handheld PC Pro with Windows
CE v2.11 or greater, or with Windows XP/2000/NT/98/ME. The card also
needs PCMCIA card and socket services compliant with revision 2.10 of the
PCMCIA specification (or higher). They do not provide data on power
consumption.

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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">On 16 Jan 2003 at 10:33, Niels wrote:</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; &gt;&gt; The
dual-function CF cards with 128MB of capacity will be priced at</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; $129.95 while
the dual-function 256MB SD cards will be priced at $149.95. &lt;&lt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; compared to the
eur80 for a standard WiFi-card and prices of eur55 for a</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; 128mb cf card
or eur110 for 256 I would say this is dirt cheap. (The</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; cf-prices are
for Dane-Elec cf-cards, Sandisk 128mb is eur84!!!! at</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Conrad...).</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; no word on powerconsumption
though, and nothing about drivers as wel... I</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; wonder if a WiFi
card is NE2000 compatible but actually I'm afraid it is</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; not.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">The User and Installation Guide is
available at www.sandisk.com. It says that
the card can be used only with:</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Pocket PC, Pocket PC 2002, HPC 2000
or Handheld PC Pro with Windows
CE v2.11 or greater, or with Windows XP/2000/NT/98/ME. The card also
needs PCMCIA card and socket services compliant with revision 2.10 of the
PCMCIA specification (or higher). They do not provide data on power
consumption.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Vic Roberts</span></font></div>
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3109936715&category=32717

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At 1/24/03-03:00 PM, "eD\\/ARd0 F/\\KEn^M3" <cojonesdetoro@EXCITE.COM> wrote:

>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3109936715&category=32717

Heheheh! Check out that battery! Probably only once in a life charging
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On 24 Jan 2003 at 11:01, Victor Roberts wrote:

> The User and Installation Guide is available at www.sandisk.com. It says that the card can be
> used only with:
>
> Pocket PC, Pocket PC 2002, HPC 2000 or Handheld PC Pro with Windows CE v2.11 or greater,
> or with Windows XP/2000/NT/98/ME. The card also needs PCMCIA card and socket services
> compliant with revision 2.10 of the PCMCIA specification (or higher). They do not provide data on
> power consumption.


I contacted SanDisk tech support. They said that the maximum current drawn
by the card is 100ma, so at least that part is compatible with the
100/200/700LX.  Is the PCMCIA slot on the LX compatible with PCMCIA spec
2.10?

I also asked about DOS and Linux drivers. The person replying was not
laughing so hard that he/she could not type that I should continue watching
the SanDisk Web site.

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Date:         Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:46:48 -0300
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Hi, I'm looking for help with a MOTOROLA SkyCard (a SkyTel PCMCIA Card fo=
r
receiving ONE WAY messages). It seems it is as old as the LX (at least fr=
om
1994), but with far less subscribers... even in South America.

Looking for DOS Software (Drivers*) for the LX to connect to the device. =
I
couldn't find it in Motorola's website, neither in SkyTel. As an owner of
the mentioned device (I bought it used), I should have it, but the seller
previously erased it with out any backup from the 200LX he sold me. He al=
so
told me he used it without any trouble.

My first inquiry would be, if somebody knows their compatiblity? (this ca=
rd
with the 200LX)
- Is there anyone here who knows something about it and/ or how it works?
- Has someone its manual/ brochure?

On the other hand, I've already got three (3) small and very old Windows
applications,
+ SkyCard System Checker
+ SkyCard Software (SkyCard Messenger, Appointement Book and Phone Book)
+ SkyTel Access (SkyWord Access and SkyWord Address Book Converter)
... but I'm sure there should be some DOS *file (maybe a driver), I shoul=
d
install in the 200LX in order to make it work.

As the company in Argentina doesn't support that service anymore and they
don't have any technical backup, they don't know anything about it.
Although, they offered me that they would give me two (2) days to try it =
out
(with the actual service for the regular pagers) and only if I can make i=
t
work, they would let me hire their services for one year in advance (and =
as
they don't have any technical support at all, if I have any problem I sho=
uld
still have to pay the service as if it is still given for the whole perio=
d).
These are the old days policy rules from a foreign company in a perplexin=
g
country like my beloved Argentina.
Its local PIN # 1.228.090 (for what is worth), was once provided by the
local branch of SkyTel (Message Services) which used to offer those servi=
ces
to that kind of devices. Actually, they only offer the messaging services=
 to
regular pagers. My friends from the local office of Motorola aldo didn't
know anything about it (because of its age).

In its back there are many numbers, which I still don't know their meanin=
g.
MOTOROLA NewsCard (TM)
A05ZTC4173AA =3D> ?
489BVL226M =3D> ?
931.9375 MHz =3D> own frequency (differente from common pagers)
ID: 2010250 =3D> device Identifier #
FCC ID: E9693BR2428 =3D> ?
Canada 109 011 279 =3D> ?

Any help is appreciated.

Tks in advance, regards, Carlos
BsAs, AR
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I've been doing some tests with GSView and it work very well converting PDF pages into PCX images. You can download Ghostscript and GSView here: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/

Using "pcxmono" as device and selecting 75 for resolution (dpi) (with 8.5 inches width PDFs) and "Variable Page Size" output 637 pixels width monochrome PCX ready to be diplayed with LXPIC in the LX. (Don't forget to add %d before the .pcx in the file
name to obtain numerate pages, e.g.: foo%d.pcx). The only drawback I noticed is that GSView uses dithering for color PDF files, and this is specially bad for displaying text. The best thing would be a "nearest color" feature when converting to black and
white, but I don't know if GSView or Ghostscript support this option. Using "pcxgray" as device and then using a program like Paint Shop Pro to convert the files to 2 colors (1-bit depth) selecting "nearest color" result in a much clear image when working
with color PDFs.

Also, it would be nice to have a PDF converted to a single file rather than having multiple PCX files, and be able to jump between pages. Looking for a solution, I tried to convert the PDF into TIFF and that worked OK too (device=tiffpack, tifflzw). In
some cases the multipages TIFFs were smaller than the PCX together, but I couldn't find a good TIFF viewer that work well in the LX. I can't get VIEW.EXE (from BGFAX) to work with these files (I also tried converting the files to other TIFF variants using
Paint Shop Pro 7). It seems that VIEW.EXE only support TIFF Class-F but I don't know how to generate such type of file.
Graphic Workshop and Compushow worked in the LX but are slow and I couldn't find a way to jump between pages, they work in a slideshow like mode. VUIMAGE (available from Simtel.net, file vuimg340.zip) work but it is slow and the panning is not good and
neither adjustable. (It seem nothing compares to LXPIC).

Another option would be DCX files, which are multipage PCX files, and we could use a program to convert several PCX files into a single DCX file. I know Stefan Peichl does not want to add support for TIFF files to LXPIC (too many TIFF formats), perhaps he
is willing to support DCX files instead.

Greetings.
Dario

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45m ago Dario Draiman wrote:
[...]
> foo%d.pcx). The only drawback I noticed is that GSView uses
> dithering for color PDF files, and this is specially bad for
> displaying text. The best thing would be a "nearest color"
> feature when converting to black an d white,

lxpic foo*.pcx /d

will turn dithering off
[...]
> Also, it would be nice to have a PDF converted to a
> single file rather than having multiple PCX files, and
> be able to jump between pages.

lxpic can do a slideshow.

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I was able to use VIEW.EXE. Apparently TIFF Class-F require Group 3 compression. Also resolution must be X=204, Y=98 or 196. You have to select "tiffg3" as device in GSView. Nevertheless the TIFF produced are still too big and too slow for VIEW.EXE
(Comparing to PCX files and LXPIC)

Dario


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Date:         Sat, 25 Jan 2003 01:08:37 -0500
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Subject:      PDF->PCX & TIFF Conversions

> I've been doing some tests with GSView and it work very well converting PDF pages into PCX images. You can download Ghostscript and GSView here: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/
>
> Using "pcxmono" as device and selecting 75 for resolution (dpi) (with 8.5 inches width PDFs) and "Variable Page Size" output 637 pixels width monochrome PCX ready to be diplayed with LXPIC in the LX. (Don't forget to add %d before the .pcx in the file
name to obtain numerate pages, e.g.: foo%d.pcx). The only drawback I noticed is that GSView uses dithering for color PDF files, and this is specially bad for displaying text. The best thing would be a "nearest color" feature when converting to black and
white, but I don't know if GSView or Ghostscript support this option. Using "pcxgray" as device and then using a program like Paint Shop Pro to convert the files to 2 colors (1-bit depth) selecting "nearest color" result in a much clear image when working
with color PDFs.
>
> Also, it would be nice to have a PDF converted to a single file rather than having multiple PCX files, and be able to jump between pages. Looking for a solution, I tried to convert the PDF into TIFF and that worked OK too (device=tiffpack, tifflzw). In
some cases the multipages TIFFs were smaller than the PCX together, but I couldn't find a good TIFF viewer that work well in the LX. I can't get VIEW.EXE (from BGFAX) to work with these files (I also tried converting the files to other TIFF variants using
Paint Shop Pro 7). It seems that VIEW.EXE only support TIFF Class-F but I don't know how to generate such type of file.
> Graphic Workshop and Compushow worked in the LX but are slow and I couldn't find a way to jump between pages, they work in a slideshow like mode. VUIMAGE (available from Simtel.net, file vuimg340.zip) work but it is slow and the panning is not good and
neither adjustable. (It seem nothing compares to LXPIC).
>
> Another option would be DCX files, which are multipage PCX files, and we could use a program to convert several PCX files into a single DCX file. I know Stefan Peichl does not want to add support for TIFF files to LXPIC (too many TIFF formats), perhaps
he is willing to support DCX files instead.
>
> Greetings.
> Dario
>
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From: Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ>
Date:         Sat, 25 Jan 2003 20:02:43 +1300
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Subject:      Re: PDF->PCX & TIFF Conversions

> 45m ago Dario Draiman wrote:
> [...]
> > foo%d.pcx). The only drawback I noticed is that GSView uses
> > dithering for color PDF files, and this is specially bad for
> > displaying text. The best thing would be a "nearest color"
> > feature when converting to black an d white,
>
> lxpic foo*.pcx /d
>
> will turn dithering off

The dithering is done by GSView when converting the PDF to 2 color PCX or TIFF image, it's not possible to turn it off with LXPIC.


> [...]
> > Also, it would be nice to have a PDF converted to a
> > single file rather than having multiple PCX files, and
> > be able to jump between pages.
>
> lxpic can do a slideshow.

That's nice, but is not the same as having just one single file for all the images (pages of the document).

Greetings.
Dario

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01h50m ago Dario Draiman wrote:

> The dithering is done by GSView when converting the PDF
> to 2 color PCX or TIFF image, it's not possible to turn it
> off with LXPIC.

Whoops sorry - yep I guess built-in dithering cannot be
un-dithered. LXPIC can only un-dither its own work. Maybe
make GSView use enough colour so it does no dithering on
conversion - say to JPG, then let LXPIC do the conversions
(undithered) to b/w PCX. This could probably be automated in
one command line.

> > lxpic can do a slideshow.
>
> That's nice, but is not the same as having just one single
> file for all the images (pages of the document).

Well, even pressing ENTER, with a simple:

lxpic foo*.*

would take you to the next page. 'P' goes back a page. So
usage is fine? Is it just the file storage aspect that you
refer to as not being the same?

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>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3109936715&category=32717

It slices, it dices, it makes tons of Julian fries  !!!

Did I mention it does floors?

When it comes to palmtops, the 200lx will wipe the floor with the
competition !!

Actually, I think that item was Microsoft first entry into the palmtop
market.



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Steve, on Friday, January 24, 2003 8:34 AM, wrote:

>Check the documentation for the SAFER option.  It is
>on by default, and prevents access to the disk by a PDF
>(or PostScript) document to save you from malicious
>programs.

Fixed it instantly!

Thanks!!

re:
>>Could I have gotten a
>> Beta-test that
>>  hasn't gotten all the bugs shaken out?

>   Don't think that is likely, but you didn't say where
>you got it.

Oops. Got it at: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/ and, I guess it's the
latest/greatest.

Thanks again!

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Date:         Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:23:40 -0500
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Subject: Accesories: PCMCIA SkyCard (Pager) - MOTOROLA NewsCard (TM)


Hi, I'm looking for help with a MOTOROLA SkyCard (a SkyTel PCMCIA Card for
receiving ONE WAY messages).
<CLIP>
Looking for DOS Software (Drivers*) for the LX to connect to the device. I
couldn't find it in Motorola's website, neither in SkyTel.
<CLIP>
********************************************
Carlos,
I was cleaning out my desk today and ran across a diskette that might help
you.
It is labeled SkyTel Messenger - Install Disk for MS-DOS/Windows, but in
small print it mentions OmniGo Messenger Application Software 1996 and
Palmtop Messenger 1996.  I read the disk and it has two folders.  One is
labeled Omnigo and appears to have files for Geos.  The other is labeled
Palmtop and has several files INCLUDING AN EXM!!!
Can I zip that folder and email it to you?
(Interesting that the diskette label mentions DOS and Windows, but it
doesn't appear to actually have DOS or Windows software on it.)

I believe I got this diskette when I bought a used LX on eBay.  I have no
documentation to go with it and I also do not have a SkyTel card so I can't
provide any assistance otherwise.
If anyone else out there needs a copy, they can let me know as well.
bob

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Along with the SkyTel software I found today, I also found a "lost" PC card
and matching software that I am not sure what it is for.
The card is labled:
"Reflection-To-Go"
HP 700/92 Terminal Emulation
PALMTOP
The diskette is labled similarly and both items have matching serial
numbers.  The card does not have a connector to attach a dongle or cable
that would lead to another device.
So, anybody outhere have an idea what this is for?
I seem to remember a software program named "Reflection" that would transfer
mainframe output to PC applications.  Could this be related?
Thanks in advance,
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:12:51 +1300
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This new EMU41.EXE runs great on the palmtop - just download
EMU41.ZIP and ROM41.ZIP from here:

http://membres.lycos.fr/jeffcalc

Here is J-F Garnier's announcement from Usenet:

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From: j-f garnier <jfgarnier@wanadoo.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: [HP41] Emu41 update with HPIL support
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:18:29 +0100
Xref: uni-berlin.de comp.sys.hp48:174279

Dear all,

FYI, if there are still HP-41C fans here, I upadate my Emu41
emulator (for DOS ...) with full HP-IL support including 5
internal ("virtual") devices: one display, two mass storage
units (DOS image file, floppy), a printer interface (parallel
port) and a DOS interface.

All this is available as freeware, like previous versions.
Please look at my new home page at:
http://membres.lycos.fr/jeffcalc

As an option, I propose an extended version for a small fee
with external HP-IL interface support by using the HPIL/PC
board (HP82973A or compatible).

I know that many of you have an old 286/386/486 sleeping around,
now you can turn it into a powerfull HP-IL controller (41
compatible) or into a multidevice HP-IL unit!

Kind regards from France.

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Hi Bob,

Reflection's HP700/92 is a HP intelligent terminal emulation software that allows you to dial into mainly HP3000/HP9000 systems and supports form filling / error checking. This was before the days of the web and applications back then made use of special
codes to paint on the screen, input fields.  These input fields does some format error checking, eg: restrict to numeric, alpha, date.  As the user fills up the input fields, no transmission is sent to the HP systems.  All logic is done locally on the PC.
 When the user has finished, there's a send button that transmits only the contents of the input fields.  Very efficiently designed communications protocol to get good applications performance out of small 1200 bps remote links.

Reflection's HP terminal emulation software also supports file transfers between a PC and the minis.

I would think the PC card contains software for the Palmtop and the disks are for PCs.

Rgds
weemeng


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>To:         =09HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject:     =09Another Odd card for the LX - "Reflection-To-Go"
>Reply-To:     =09Bob Penick <bnj@MYREALBOX.COM>
>Date:    =09Sunday, January 26, 2003 5:34 AM
>
>Along with the SkyTel software I found today, I also found a "lost" PC card
>and matching software that I am not sure what it is for.
>The card is labled:
>"Reflection-To-Go"
>HP 700/92 Terminal Emulation
>PALMTOP
>The diskette is labled similarly and both items have matching serial
>numbers.  The card does not have a connector to attach a dongle or cable
>that would lead to another device.
>So, anybody outhere have an idea what this is for?
>I seem to remember a software program named "Reflection" that would transfer
>mainframe output to PC applications.  Could this be related?
>Thanks in advance,
>bob
>
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Sorry friends.  I'm changing jobs and finding strange things I had tucked
away long ago as I clean out the office.

I just turned up a diskette with the Compuserve Information Manager for DOS
(DOSCIM Version 2.2.2) dated April 1994.
I don't use Compuserve anymore (and haven't in years and years).  Do these
files have any use to anyone now?
I'd think that Compuserve has turned off all DOS access by now.

Later,
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Subject: Re: Another Odd card for the LX - "Reflection-To-Go"
<CLIP>
I would think the PC card contains software for the Palmtop and the disks
are for PCs.

Rgds
weemeng

*******************************


weemeng,
Thanks for the info!  Doesn't sound like it's anything I'll need soon -
thank goodness!
I'll have to add that the disk (just one) also says "PALMTOP" on it as well,
so the software must have some use with the LX.
Later,
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01h35m ago Bob Penick wrote:

> Sorry friends.  I'm changing jobs and finding strange things
> I had tucked away long ago as I clean out the office.

No need to be sorry Bob - these finds are very interesting!
That SkyTel EXM software is probably just the ticket for
Carlos in Argentine.

> I just turned up a diskette with the Compuserve Information
> Manager for DOS (DOSCIM Version 2.2.2) dated April 1994.
> I don't use Compuserve anymore (and haven't in years
> and years).  Do these files have any use to anyone now?
> I'd think that Compuserve has turned off all DOS access
> by now.

DOS access is still possible with the old Compuserve Classic.
I use DOSCIM 2.2.3, although the first version I had was
probably 2.2.2. So someone may like this diskette you found.
I've been cleaning out here too - the first Palmtop paper I
have is from 1994 featuring HP's Starlink (which did access
SkyTel).

Hope you find some more strange things to tell us about, and
all the best for the shift/new job!

-Tony

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Tony,
Thanks for your good wishes with the new job.  I'm going to work as an epid=
emiologist again.=20

To make this relevant to the list, while I have had a 200LX since early 199=
4 most of the people I will work with use Palm PDAs.  One was showing me =
how he could create a database and add records to it with Handbase (sp ?)=
 on his palm.  I showed him the database app on the 200 and he was impres=
sed.  Then I went to the DOS prompt and fired up Epi Info for DOS.  He wa=
s blown away.
Some of the list members may have an interest in Epi Info.  It runs well on=
 the LX.  While directed toward epidemiologist, it can be useful to many =
in others.  It includes a limited word processor, a statistical analysis =
program, a graphing application and a very good database program that imp=
orts and exports data in standard file types. All the apps work together =
and the minimum requirements are DOS 2.01 and 512K ram.  It is very power=
ful and best of all, it is completely FREE!

Here is a link to download for those interested.
http://www.cdc.gov/epiinfo/ei6.htm

And here is a blurb about the program that I've copied from the CDC webpage=
 that may give a better description than I have.
*******
Epi Info 6 is a series of microcomputer programs for handling epidemiologic=
 data in questionnaire format and for organizing study designs and result=
s into text that may form part of written reports. A questionnaire can be=
 set up and processed in a few minutes, but Epi Info also can form the ba=
sis for a powerful disease surveillance system database with many files a=
nd record types. It includes features used by epidemiologists in statisti=
cal programs, such as SAS or SPSS, and database programs like dBASE. Unli=
ke commercial programs, however, Epi Info may be freely copied and given =
to friends and colleagues.=20

Epi Info 6 allows rapid setup of new entry forms and data files, easily cus=
tomized data entry, and many data management and analysis techniques.=20

Epi Map 2 displays counts or rates on geographic maps supplied or drawn on =
the screen. Colors, shading, dots, or noncontiguous cartograms can be use=
d to show any type of numeric data related to map boundaries.

Do Epi is a series of educational studies and computer exercises designed t=
o teach both epidemiology and the use of Epi Info. An instructor's module=
 is included.

Epi Info Around the World
A 2001 analysis documented 280,000 downloads of Epi Info from over 125 coun=
tries. The DOS manual and/or programs have been translated from English i=
nto 13 additional languages.
***********
If you search a little, there is also a Windows version for free.
For what it is worth,
bob

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On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 06:28:38PM -0500, Bob Penick wrote:
> > <CLIP>
> > I would think the PC card contains software for the Palmtop and the disks
> > are for PCs.
>
> weemeng,
> Thanks for the info!  Doesn't sound like it's anything I'll need soon -
> thank goodness!
> I'll have to add that the disk (just one) also says "PALMTOP" on it as well,
> so the software must have some use with the LX.

a quick google search turns up this link:

http://www.phoaks.com/phoaks2/newsgroups/alt/comp/sys/palmtops/hp/resources0.html

with the following:

Subject: FA: Reflection-To-Go Software for HP200LX HP700/92 Terminal Emulation
From: Scott Chapman <scott@lund.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:10:12 -0700
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp


    Reflection-To-Go HP 700/92 Terminal Emulation Software on PCMCIA Card:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=377160965



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Hi,

I am currently participating in the ongoing beta test for
JP Software's DOS command processor replacement 4DOS, which,
I am sure, many of the advanced DOS command line users in
this group will know, if not have learned to depend on. ;-)

There even is an outdated version of 4DOS somewhere on SUPER,
but since some older versions of 4DOS only ran on 286 CPUs
upwards (I not sure which versions have been affected), it
might be good news, that the forthcoming 4DOS 7.50 will still
run fine on the HP LX series, including the HP 100LX, HP 200LX,
HP 200FX, HP 1000CX, and HP OmniGo 700LX. (I'm not sure about
the HP 95LX, and the HP OmniGo 100 and 120 models.)

Right now, I am running 4DOS 7.50 (Beta build 92) on a HP 200LX
(BIOS 1.02A D). If you are interested, you can try the release
version 4DOS 7.01A or the current beta of 4DOS 7.50 yourself by
downloading it from JP Software's site at http://www.jpsoft.com.
(Don't worry, even the Beta version is extremely stable.)

JP Software is one of the few remaining companies still developing
and supporting DOS software, but according to them, sales of 4DOS
have significantly dropped over the past months, while sales of
4NT have drastically increased, so they are openly admitting that
they are strongly considering to stop further development of 4DOS
after this release unless they see some significant amount of
4DOS sales again.

In my opinion, 4DOS is one of the true pearls in the shell of DOS,
so it would be a pity, if it had to die before many more smaller
usabilility enhancements could be incorporated.

4DOS.COM plays circles around COMMAND.COM in virtually all aspects
while still being compatible with the traditional command processor
syntax and commands. For those who don't know it already, it adds
uncountable extra features and usability enhancements, ranging from
106 built-in commands (many of which are not even available as
external commands under plain DOS), each of them with a multitude
of options (sometimes using up the whole alphabet for option letters),
16 special environment variables, 60 internal variables, 106 pre-
defined variable functions, and 169 configuration directives to
customize 4DOS to each one's individual needs.
It also has freely user-definable functions, aliases, executable
extensions, automatic command line completion and history recall,
pop-up windows, powerful scripting facilities, and last but not
least a very convenient help system (with more than one Megabyte
of fully cross-linked ASCII text worth, describing all features
and giving reference and background info on other DOS features),
easily available on a single key press (F1).

You can run 4DOS as a complete replacement for COMMAND.COM
(CONFIG.SYS SHELL=, but this does not make much sense on the
LX) or as a temporary shell loaded on top of COMMAND.COM by
just typing "4DOS" at the COMMAND.COM prompt (assuming 4DOS.COM
or 4DOS.BAT is in your %PATH% somewhere).
It needs about 245 Kb of swap space either through EMS or on
disk (preferable on C:), and while swapped out, only a ca.
3 Kb large resident stub remains in memory. It also runs from
inside of System Manager when you add it (F3) to the list of
applications as follows:

Name:   &4DOS
Path:   a:\bat\4dos.bat|
           or
        a:\sys\shell\4dos.750\4dos.com|
           or whereever it resides on your system.
           The pending '|' will give it all available memory --
           4DOS will need at least 275 Kb to start.
Notes:  <place an inverse question mark here>
Symbol: "C:>"

Some 4DOS.INI directives, I found useful on the LX:

[4DOS]
HelpPath = c:\sys\shell\4dos.750
HelpOptions = /M /F /X   (so the help comes up in monochrom color set)
Swapping = EMS,c:\tmp,a:\tmp,None
EditMode = Insert
Printer = AUX
UpperCase = Yes
OutputBIOS = Yes
SDFlush = Yes
FullInt2E = Yes
MessageServer = Yes
UniqueSwapName = Yes
SwapReOpen = Yes

When exiting 4DOS from inside of System Manager, you should not
use F6, since this will not erase 4DOS swap file, and you would
soon run out of swap space unless you delete the swap file from
inside of 4START.BTM.

Greetings,

 Matthias

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hello all,

I tried to download my mobile phone contacts with the robot script
phone.scr. I got a file with truncated names, the phone number and name
separated with a pipe character. I had to remove the codepage command
in phone.scr because my phone did not understand it.

I also tried to download the SIM Card phonebook and it worked also.
Upload of this file to the Sim card stopped with an error after a short
time, but I could not find out why.

Is there anyone who has experience with this kind of mobile phone?
I'd like to download the phonebook completely for backup reasons and be
able to upload it again.
Has the Sim card to be empty for upload?

thanks for all hints and links,

Werner

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From: "Erwann ABALEA" <erwann@ABALEA.COM>
> I would love to have a version of DesqView on my old 486 laptop ;)

These should help:
http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/dv/
http://uml-pub.ists.dartmouth.edu/mirrors/desqviewx/

HTH,

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Date:         Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:07:39 +0100
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Hi Werner,

I don't know about the T39m, but I tried this with my T68 and=
 couldn't get it to work at alk. The T68 has a rather=
 sophisticated phone book which holds several phone numbers and=
 other data for each name, and I assumed that phone.scr can't=
 cope with that. If I try to transfer data, I get the names, but=
 only strange numbers instead of the real phone numbers.

Does the phone book of your T39 look similar? If yes, that may be=
 the reason why it doesn't work.

Also, I noticed that it is quite difficult to find the right=
 position for the phone, so that it is near enough for the IR=
 link to still work, but not too near to avoid EMI problems.=
 Perhaps your IR link breaks and that's why the upload stops?

Thomas


On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 00:02:52 +0100, Dr. Werner Furlan=
 <furlan@gmx.net>=A0wrote:
>hello all,
>
>I tried to download my mobile phone contacts with the robot=
 script
>phone.scr. I got a file with truncated names, the phone number=
 and
>name
>separated with a pipe character. I had to remove the codepage=
 command
>in phone.scr because my phone did not understand it.
>
>I also tried to download the SIM Card phonebook and it worked=
 also.
>Upload of this file to the Sim card stopped with an error after=
 a
>short
>time, but I could not find out why.
>
>Is there anyone who has experience with this kind of mobile=
 phone?
>I'd like to download the phonebook completely for backup reasons=
 and
>be
>able to upload it again.
>Has the Sim card to be empty for upload?
>
>thanks for all hints and links,
>
>Werner
>
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On 2003-01-26, I wrote:

> Some 4DOS.INI directives, I found useful on the LX:
>
> [4DOS]
> HelpPath = c:\sys\shell\4dos.750

Remove this -- a left-over from an earlier file version.
This directive is no longer supported, anyway.

> SwapReOpen = Yes

This should have been: SwapReOpen = No

I would be interested in other people's experiences running
4DOS (or NDOS) on one of the HP LX machines...

Greetings,

 Matthias

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Date:         Mon, 27 Jan 2003 08:42:41 -0500
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Hi Bob,

   We are actually still using an HP 700/92 for a
specific purpose where using a PC would be inconvenient.
We used to use Reflection on PC's when we replaced the
other HP terminals as well.  And there may still be some
documentation left around here if that means anything.

   The HP terminals were quite good, supplying line
editing and the like.

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I've been trying to make this work to no avail. Before throwing in the towel,
I'll ask for help as this is by far the most likely forum I can get help from.

Here is my setup:

Font:
C:\KDISP200\ELISA.FNT (extracted from elisa100.lzh)

Driver (in autoexec.bat):
A:\KDISP\KDSPN072.COM

Problem:
At reboot, the driver will load and try to read the font file but fail with an
error message:

>>>
kdisp200.com---KANJI display driver for HP 200LX
Copyright 1994 (C) by Kazuhisa.Terasaki all rights reserved.
        NIFTY-Serve : JAA00754  KADUHI

        Version 0.72   August-21-1994

....
Rom version is different.
<<<

At this point, it won't go further.

I know the driver did look at the font file since it would complain if I changed
the font directory name to something different.

Anyone has a pointer?

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              or EMM200: EMS-file contains non-contiguous blocks...
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Hi HP LX folks,

Since I could not find any "out-of-the-box" solutions for
this problem, I am currently investigating possibilities
how to provide UMB memory on the HP 200LX, so that you
can load device drivers and TSRs into Upper Memory using
DEVICEHIGH, INSTALLHIGH, and LOAHHIGH/LH. If someone is
running such a setup already, I'd be very interested in
any tips you can provide.

Since the Hornet chip can map RAM into the address space above
the video adapter's address space, providing UMB memory on
the LX is possible at least in theory (I'm not sure about
compatibility with System Manager, though). While it would
be possible to write a stand-alone driver to map RAM into
the UMB address space (see below), I am currently trying to
get it working by "re-using" one of the EMS drivers available
for the HP LX.

The idea is as follows: Set up an EMS driver to provide a
page frame somewhere in Upper Memory, then load the DR-DOS
HIMEM.SYS driver on top of that EMS driver and convert parts
or all of the available EMS memory into UMBs recognized by DOS.

While MS-DOS/PC DOS HIMEM.SYS requires at least a 286 to run,
the DR-DOS HIMEM.SYS also runs on 8086 and therefore also
186 CPUs in order to convert Permanent Upper Memory into
XMSUMB memory. Of course, HIMEM.SYS cannot provide XMS Extended
Memory or HMA memory on a 8086 or 80186 CPU, but XMSUMB memory
is possible, though not supported by MS-DOS/PC DOS HIMEM.SYS.
In general, something like this should work:

 DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS /CHIPSET=RAM /USE=xxxx-xxxx[,yyyy-yyyy,...]

In our case, we do not have Permanent Upper Memory (unless someone
would write a driver to set up the LX memory mapper to provide
it, see above), but besides the above mentioned "RAM" pseudo
chipset and lots of actual hardware chipsets, HIMEM.SYS supports
two other virtual chipsets:

 DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS /CHIPSET=EMSUMB

and

 DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS /CHIPSET=EMSALL

In case "EMSUMB" is specified, HIMEM.SYS will try to utilize an already
loaded EMS 4.0 or EEMS driver to map in as many 16 Kb EMS pages
(*outside* the 64 Kb page frame), lock them down, and make them
available through the XMSUMB interface, so DOS can occupy the
memory just as if it would be normal Upper Memory and provide
it through its own UMB API, which is then used by LH and friends.
If more EMS memory exists than locked down as UMB memory, the
remaining EMS memory will still be available through the EMS page
frame, so there's no backdraw for applications using EMS.

The "EMSALL" option also works with EMS 3.0, 3.2, 4.0 EMS, as
well as EEMS drivers, as it will take over "whatever is there",
including the 64 Kb page frame. This will make up to 64 Kb
more UMB memory available than "EMSUMB" would do, but it will
keep any applications from using EMS, even if there would be
more EMS memory available than occupied as UMS memory.
(EMS 3.0 and 3.2 do not support EMS pages outside the page frame,
so using the page frame is the only way to convert EMS into
UMB if you only have an EMS 3.x hardware or driver).

Now, if I set up TREMM.EXE everything seems to be fine (using
EMS memory in applications works), but for currently unknown
reasons, the DR-DOS HIMEM.SYS refuses to talk to the driver
and just displays something like

 "Specified chipset not found or Shadow RAM not available"

In order to track down the reason for this failure, I tried to
cross-check this with EMM200.EXE, which seems to have more
configuration options and the source code is available as well.

However, I cannot get EMM200.EXE to work on my machine
(HP 200LX, BIOS 1.02A D, German 1998 model with 2 Mb RAM).
It always displays:

 "EMS-file contains non-contiguous blocks"

although I ran MAKEEMS on a completely blank drive C: and
CHKDSK also lists the C:\EMM200.DAT file as being contiguous.

So, I'm currently stuck. Is there anything I should need to
know beyond the docs in order to properly set up EMM200.EXE?
Any experiences, and ideas?

Thanks alot for your time,

 Matthias

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Hello,

I found an interesting device on the net. It's the Audiovox: a
compact flash card that sports a full functional GSM with GPRS.
It is designed for PocketPCs. Maybe this might also work on the 200LX,
if someone can find out more/write an appropriate DOS driver.
This would be a nice compact alternative for the 700LX and docked Nokia.
Even nicer than 200LX and IrDa hazzle.

Details are on: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=RTM8000

Maybe the group could investigate further...

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Domingo,

Thanks for the useful info!  I had been looking for the final versions
of DesqView, QEMM, etc., and gee, here they are easily accessible from
the links you sent!  Now to see about getting DV 2.8 running on an LX...

Martin :)


At 09:41 PM 1/26/2003 -0800, you wrote:



----- Original Message -----
From: "Erwann ABALEA" <erwann@ABALEA.COM>
> I would love to have a version of DesqView on my old 486 laptop ;)

These should help:
http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/dv/
<http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/dv/>
http://uml-pub.ists.dartmouth.edu/mirrors/desqviewx/
<http://uml-pub.ists.dartmouth.edu/mirrors/desqviewx/>

HTH,

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Domingo,<br><br>
Thanks for the useful info!&nbsp; I had been looking for the final
versions of DesqView, QEMM, etc., and gee, here they are easily
accessible from the links you sent!&nbsp; Now to see about getting DV 2.8
running on an LX...<br><br>
Martin :)<br><br>
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<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font size=2>----- Original Message
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<font size=2>From: &quot;Erwann ABALEA&quot;
&lt;erwann@ABALEA.COM&gt;</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; I would love to have a version of DesqView on my old
486 laptop ;)</font> <br><br>
<font size=2>These should help:</font> <br>
<font size=2><a href="http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/dv/">http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/dv/</a></font>
<br>
<font size=2><a href="http://uml-pub.ists.dartmouth.edu/mirrors/desqviewx/" eudora="autourl">http://uml-pub.ists.dartmouth.edu/mirrors/desqviewx/</a></font> <br><br>
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Hi Christian

07h56m ago Christian Felique wrote:

> I found an interesting device on the net. It's the Audiovox: a
> compact flash card that sports a full functional GSM with GPRS.
> It is designed for PocketPCs. Maybe this might also work on the 200LX,
> if someone can find out more/write an appropriate DOS driver.
> This would be a nice compact alternative for the 700LX and docked Nokia.
> Even nicer than 200LX and IrDa hazzle.
>
> Details are on: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=RTM8000

I have not yet checked out the web site, but if it is a GSM/GPRS data
card, there is a chance that it is accessable just as a normal PCMCIA
modem, i.e. as a COM port and usable with AT commands.
If that's the case, no driver is needed.
If the web site doesn't talk about this,, someone had to test that.

Very interesting! Thanks for the pointer!!

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Hi,

FWIW, nothing really new, but just a quick confirmation for those,
who might still be unsure, which CF cards actually work in the
HP LX *without* requiring the ACECARD or other extra drivers...

At least a brand-new (2002-12) SanDisk 256 Mb type I CF card ("SDCFB",
that is, non-"ultra" type) is recognized and works without additional
drivers in the HP 200LX (BIOS 1.02A D, German 1998 model with 2 Mb,
single-speed) using a passive (SanDisk) Compact Flash PC Card Adapter.

Greetings,

 Matthias

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On 2003-01-26, I wrote:

> Name:   &4DOS
> Path:   a:\bat\4dos.bat|
> Notes:  <place an inverse question mark here>

Adding an inverse exclamation mark and question mark in the
comments field will also avoid the following problem - at the
backdraw that you cannot switch to other running System Manager
task while inside of the 4DOS session:

> When exiting 4DOS from inside of System Manager, you should not
> use F6, since this will not erase 4DOS swap file, and you would
> soon run out of swap space unless you delete the swap file from
> inside of 4START.BTM.

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hallo Thomas,

Thomas Rundel schrieb am 27 Jan 2003 um 11:07:

>
> I don't know about the T39m, but I tried this with my T68 and couldn't get it to work at
> alk. The T68 has a rather sophisticated phone book which holds several phone numbers
> and
> other data for each name, and I assumed that phone.scr can't cope with that. If I try to
> transfer data, I get the names, but only strange numbers instead of the real phone
> numbers.
> Does the phone book of your T39 look similar? If yes, that may be the reason why it
> doesn't work.

yes it looks similar. But download works in my case, only the +
(international 00) before the numbers are stripped (instead of being
translated to 00) and the names are taken from the first name + last
name field.
After the name there is a / slash and the character H for home number
and /M for mobile phone number.
I had to cross out the codepage command in phone.scr though.
Michael sent me a different phone3.scr, which did not work for me.

>
> Also, I noticed that it is quite difficult to find the right position for the phone, so
> that it is near enough for the IR link to still work, but not too near to avoid EMI
> problems. Perhaps your IR link breaks and that's why the upload stops?
>

that was no problem for me, I put the phone in a distance of 10cm
next to the palmtop, Baud rate is set to 38400, no EMI because there
is no transmission from the phone. (I hear it immediately in my
intercom loudspeaker even without ring from Stefan Peichl)

cheers,
Werner

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Tony Hutchins wrote:
> DOS access is still possible with the old Compuserve Classic.

Depends on what you mean by "DOS" in that context. As far as I am aware
of and using Compuserve Classic needs TCP/IP and lets you access
standard pop3 and smtp services, which is how I use it on my 700 LX. Of
course there is HTTP too, but you don't find sites junkless enaugh to
allow use of the available DOS browsers. But for none of that do you
need any propriteary CIS software, so to the best of my knowledge those
disks are useless except perhaps of historic interest. As far as I know
the old CIS fora (forums for Americans, forumses for Yorkshiremen) are
no longer there and superceded by some sort of website junk, but I may
have that wrong.

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If you have a classic account, and a numeric account with CIS, then you can
access CIS using the DOS programs that Tony is talking about. They do NOT
use TCP/IP, nor HTTP, and they cannot access any webpages or websites.

There are two versions of this program, with the earlier one being smaller
and a bit faster. It is also limited in that it cannot access more than 13
sections within a forum. The newer version is heftier, but can access all
sections in a forum. This is not really useful or important for
palmtopppers because so many (if not all?) of CIS forums went to the newer
style, requiring newer _forum_ access programs. But in terms of email, you
can still get it if you have the classic, numeric account.

Also, AFAIK, even if you did open a POP3 mailbox with the account, i.e. got
a lettered name, such as my old one (now defunct) a_meshar@cis.com, and
even if you shunt all the email from the old email to the POP3 mailbox, you
could still access all the email from the classic side using the DOS
programs Tony writes about or even DATACOM on the palmtop if you knew all
the commands in the old, raw form of Compuserve. I believe I used it that
way for some time.

As I said, forums is a different animal, since most converted to a new
style requiring newer programs to access.

Avi

At 1/28/03-08:55 AM, Axel Berger <Axel-Berger@NEXGO.DE> wrote:
>Tony Hutchins wrote:
> > DOS access is still possible with the old Compuserve Classic.
>
>Depends on what you mean by "DOS" in that context. As far as I am aware
>of and using Compuserve Classic needs TCP/IP and lets you access
>standard pop3 and smtp services, which is how I use it on my 700 LX. Of
>course there is HTTP too, but you don't find sites junkless enaugh to
>allow use of the available DOS browsers. But for none of that do you
>need any propriteary CIS software, so to the best of my knowledge those
>disks are useless except perhaps of historic interest. As far as I know
>the old CIS fora (forums for Americans, forumses for Yorkshiremen) are
>no longer there and superceded by some sort of website junk, but I may
>have that wrong.
>
>Axel
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Hi Werner

05h30m ago Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:

> After the name there is a / slash and the character H for home number
> and /M for mobile phone number.

Yep, that's what I get using phone3.scr and my T39. I also
managed to "put" a new number to the T39, but I think the
number got changed!! Hmm, must have a closer look at that. Not
a good sign :( I get the impression that Nokia and Ericcson
don't care too much any more about the "AT" phonebook
commands. I know on a recent Nokia that one command does not
work as documented. Instead they provide proprietary "desktop"
software for phonebook upload/download.

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Hi Axel Berger

04h13m ago Axel Berger wrote:

> Tony Hutchins wrote:
> > DOS access is still possible with the old Compuserve Classic.
>
> Depends on what you mean by "DOS" in that context.

It was in the context of the email I responded to where DOS
CIM software was mentioned. That can still be used. I used it
last week to "GO PALMTOPS" and find/download a file. Not all
forums have a web-only interface (yet).

When I fired it up I even saw "F Kaufman is has entered the
forum" and then a second later "F Kaufman has left the forum".
Clearly Fred was using acCIS :)

> As far as I am aware of and using Compuserve Classic needs
> TCP/IP and lets you access standard pop3 and smtp services,
> which is how I use it on my 700 LX.

Yep that is great for mail. I can also quickly browse mine
using the DOS CIM - it uses the proprietary HMI protocol.

> Of course there is HTTP too, but you don't find sites
> junkless enaugh to allow use of the available DOS browsers.

I haven't tried that, but yes the browser would probably need
to be able to do fairly strong encryption to even log in - so
for web access you'd need a "desktop" browser.

Actually I did try it once, but quickly gave up. I am not sure
whether you get access to the files that way - DOS CIM is a
great way to browse the file repository at GO PALMTOPS.

> But for none of that do you need any propriteary CIS
> software,

Yep - probably true .. you don't even need to dial up through
a compuserve node. But, with DOS CIM you can only dial
compuserve.

> so to the best of my knowledge those disks are useless
> except perhaps of historic interest.

Certainly historic!<G>. But usable - about a year ago I had
to add a new script to mine so I could log in. But there is
not a lot left to see/do via the HMI protocol. There is the
"PALMTOPS" forun - and TAPCIS, and q big Word Perfect place
too I think, for example - all accessible via web and desktop
browser as well, but not web-only.

> As far as I know the old CIS fora (forums for Americans,
> forumses for Yorkshiremen) are no longer there and superceded
> by some sort of website junk, but I may have that wrong.

Pretty much correct. Some are still accessible via the HMI
interface. The usual palmtop program for this is of course
acCIS, the online robot/offline reader, which a lot of folk
still use! The DOS CIM is just an online way to look around
what's left of the old compuserve <g>

Actually there is still an ascii interface to the really
really old Compuserve. But, very little can be done there.
You can access it by telnet to gateway.compuserve.com.
We had ROBOT scripts for this - one by one Compuserve took
away the services - but I think even I can still send mail
this way - but I am on "NEW" mail so cannot get my mail via
ascii - only via HMI (and also from the pop3).

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Hi friends,

07h19m ago Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> > Details are on: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=RTM8000
>
> I have not yet checked out the web site, but if it is a GSM/GPRS data
> card, there is a chance that it is accessable just as a normal PCMCIA
> modem, i.e. as a COM port and usable with AT commands.
> If that's the case, no driver is needed.
> If the web site doesn't talk about this,, someone had to test that.

I guess someone should test this card!!
http://www.solution.at/home.asp?page=AudiovoxRTM8000
says: "...in fact the system is recognizing it directly and modem
support will be made available then". This sound really as if that card
is usable just like a normal PCMCIA modem as COM2 on the palmtop!

There is also a manual available at www.audiovox.com:
http://www.audiovox.com/Downloads/RTM-8000_User_Manual-Version_C.pdf

And
http://www.ppcw.net/stories.php?story=02/10/18/3570253
also says:
"The card itself doesn't need any drivers, it's recognized from the
Pocket PC 2002 right after you plug it in". So if Poecket PC 2002
doesn't need drivers, maybe DOS also doesn't need drivers..

And
http://www.worldofi.de/HWTests/audiovox.htm (german)
mentions a price of 250 EUR for ths card (at fawis.de).

http://palmare.cz/PocketPC_WinCE/WinCE_Hardware/rtm8000020621.html
mentions a price of 214 EUR in the last paragraph, but I don't
understand anything, since it's in Czech language. :-)

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Avi Meshar wrote:
> If you have a classic account, and a numeric account with CIS,
> then you can access CIS using the DOS programs that Tony is
> talking about. They do NOT use TCP/IP, nor HTTP, and they
> cannot access any webpages or websites.

Yes I tried that with pure datacomm and came as far as the welcome
message and then error notes telling me to update.

> But in terms of email, you
> can still get it if you have the classic, numeric account.

I thought that was totally defunct now, but I might be wrong.

> Also, AFAIK, even if you did open a POP3 mailbox [...]
> you could still access all the email from the classic side

That, I believe is wrong. I remember detailed instructions in one of the
old fora to people who had inadvertantly "updated" how to get their old
mail back. It was not easy and it was ten years ago.

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02h ago Axel Berger wrote:

> Avi Meshar wrote:
> > If you have a classic account, and a numeric account with CIS,
> > then you can access CIS using the DOS programs that Tony is
> > talking about. They do NOT use TCP/IP, nor HTTP, and they
> > cannot access any webpages or websites.
>
> Yes I tried that with pure datacomm and came as far as the welcome
> message and then error notes telling me to update.

With pure Datacom you are using the ASCII interface. DOS CIM
uses the HMI interface.

> > But in terms of email, you
> > can still get it if you have the classic, numeric account.
>
> I thought that was totally defunct now, but I might be wrong.

It's alive still.

> > Also, AFAIK, even if you did open a POP3 mailbox [...]
> > you could still access all the email from the classic side
>
> That, I believe is wrong.

Avi is right. I, a fossil, am living proof <G>.
You could fire up a DOS CIM and log in and if you have mail
you'll see a dialogue box announcing that when you connect.

> I remember detailed instructions in one of the old fora
> to people who had inadvertantly "updated" how to get their
> old mail back.

Oh that revives some old memories. We need Barry to help out
here ;-)

AFAIR the problem was those guys were using the ASCII
interface - and "NEWMAIL" is not accessable that way - only
via HMI.

AFAIK you can *still* be on ASCII email - yep I know at least
one person who never changed!! And, this can be accessed via
HMI (using acCIS or DOS CIM) or by the ASCII interface.

One thing I like is that the "csi.com" email domain still
works. I always thought they were going to give that the chop.

Even I, who am on "newmail" can send email using the ASCII
interface. But, that's all I can do - no quotes,weather,news,
faxes,etc etc. All gone.

It seems they have maintined a "lowest common denominator"
ASCII service for email only. There must be one old DEC machine
still working<G>.

> It was not easy and it was ten years ago.

Axel you rounded that to the nearest "10" <VBG>

I'd say the "NEWMAIL" didn't become available till late 1994
early 1995, so it's 8 years ago <VBG>. Time flies - it seems
like yesterday - maybe because I've just been unpacking old
boxes and found Compuserve magazines from 1994/95.

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i guess i slipped and did not send this to the list

making up for that now .. sorry if its being repeated
but with the kind of person daniel is, repeating is ok !

..pk

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> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 9:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Backlight news
>
>
> <snipped>
>
> > I don't know how you did all this while ....
>
> I DO know !
>
> he's a genius .. the like of which are born every 25 years only
> can ypu be cloned daniel ?
>
> ..pk
>
> (and he's nice, and humble, and helpful, and honest, and frank,
> and caring, and all that one could hope to ind in a model
person
> .. AND he doesn't let all this flattery go to his head .. and
> doesn't lose temper, and isn't greedy, and lets all earn off
his
> ideas too .. and and and .. oh i could sing all night .. that's
> what daniel is to me .. and i am shy .. yet i admit all this ..
> with a sense of pride too !)
>

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Hi,

Came across this interesting device that would allow a 200LX to connect to
the LAN via its serial port.

http://www.patton.com/cgi-patton/catalog-bin/display.cgi?model=2120

The device can present a telnet interface and one can use the terminal
application to telnet to hosts or a PPP interface where one needs dosppp.

Rgds
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> http://palmare.cz/PocketPC_WinCE/WinCE_Hardware/rtm8000020621.html
> mentions a price of 214 EUR in the last paragraph, but I don't
> understand anything, since it's in Czech language. :-)
>
> daniel

Nothing special in this article. These 214 Eur is price which should be, so
it may not
be true. It is not available on czech market yet.

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Is somebody out there who knows a friendly dealer selling PocketPC
accessories ? Maybe one could bring his 200LX to the shop and
ask to try out the Audiovox RTM8000 + 200LX setup. What about
Thaddeus ? I believe they also sell PocketPC accesories, so maybe
they could test it.

Christian






>From: "Svagr, Radek" <radek.svagr@INVENSYS.COM>
>Reply-To: "Svagr, Radek" <radek.svagr@INVENSYS.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: 200LX + AudioVox CompactFlash GSM Card = mini 700LX         +
>             ,Nokia,alternative ?
>Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:51:19 -0000
>
> > http://palmare.cz/PocketPC_WinCE/WinCE_Hardware/rtm8000020621.html
> > mentions a price of 214 EUR in the last paragraph, but I don't
> > understand anything, since it's in Czech language. :-)
> >
> > daniel
>
>Nothing special in this article. These 214 Eur is price which should be, so
>it may not
>be true. It is not available on czech market yet.
>
>Radek
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hello Daniel,

Daniel Hertrich schrieb am 28 Jan 2003 um 22:19:

> > I have not yet checked out the web site, but if it is a GSM/GPRS data
> > card, there is a chance that it is accessable just as a normal PCMCIA
> > modem, i.e. as a COM port and usable with AT commands.
> > If that's the case, no driver is needed.
> > If the web site doesn't talk about this,, someone had to test that.
>
> I guess someone should test this card!!

If you test it, be aware that the power consumption of the device
probably exceeds the capability of your HP/LX. It is not only the
modem that has to be powered but also the phone. And I am sure that a
mobile phone eats more than 150mA.
But I admit I did not try it myself.

Werner

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On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:55:42 +0800, you wrote:

This is just a dumb terminal eliminator...=20

At work we use a similar product that allows remote access of our
large servers.  An administrator can access a LARGE server via this
TCP/IP RS232 signal convertor/security gateway, from the comfort of
his/her office, instead of inside the usually cold and noisey server
room.

>Hi,
>
>Came across this interesting device that would allow a 200LX to connect =
to
>the LAN via its serial port.
>
>http://www.patton.com/cgi-patton/catalog-bin/display.cgi?model=3D2120
>
>The device can present a telnet interface and one can use the terminal
>application to telnet to hosts or a PPP interface where one needs =
dosppp.
>
>Rgds
>weemeng
>
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I seem to remember there was a 1.4mb floppy drive for use
with the 100/200LX palmtops. Anyone know where I might
obtain  one?

Bob
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Daniel did really a great job.
Only his high quality description made it possible to install the
backlight-kit
myself.
He is right: it is a nerve-racking job and it took me certainly 3 hours.
There are many chances to crash the hplx for good.
I like the result although my lx200 is missing now a few lines on the lower
part  of the screen. So I have to take my lx apart again to re-adjust the
screen.
As Daniel mentioned already the screen is a little bit darker now but that
doesn't matter to me. The greenish screen is just right in the dark.
Thank you very much Daniel for your enthusiasm.
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I seem to remember there was a 1.4mb floppy drive for use
with the 100/200LX palmtops. Anyone know where I might
obtain  one?
*******************************************
Bob,
I have one that works very well.  It is made by Accurite (the same people
that make the Doubleslot device).  You can buy it directly from them or
search eBay etc.
They were/are also marketed for use with a ruggedized laptop named something
like Itronix.  It is the same drive if you find one of those.
If you find a used one, make sure you get the power supply.  A laptop will
supply enough current to run the drive but our LX's will not.
Caveat - Some people have reported problems using these drives with
doublespeed LX's.  I have two doublespeed 200's and both work well with my
Accurite floppy and another I tested them with.
Later,
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:47:29 +0200
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Hallo Werner,

1 day 01h49m ago Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:

> yes it looks similar. But download works in my case, only the +
> (international 00) before the numbers are stripped (instead of being
> translated to 00) and the names are taken from the first name + last
> name field.
> After the name there is a / slash and the character H for home number
> and /M for mobile phone number.
> I had to cross out the codepage command in phone.scr though.
> Michael sent me a different phone3.scr, which did not work for me.

I have not really tried to DOWNload the phonebook from my T39m to the
LX, but I regularily UPload it. I also use the /H /M etc. feature with
that, creating a complete multi-number-per-name phonebook from my HPLX
phone book. This works well. The numbers are transfered correctly with
the + and with the names in the correct order.

If anyone needs my files (phone.scr, the converter program for the HPLX
phone book etc), please let me know.

What I have observed: Each entry which is uploaded seems to be appended
to the phone book, no matter if it's already in the phone book or not.
At least, I get some error messages from phone.scr, if I don't delete
the entire phone book in the phone before uploading the new phonebook.
Or maybe the phone returns an error if it already knows the entry which
is uploaded - I don't know exactly, because I don't care anymore. It
works for me, so I let it untouched. ;-)

> > Also, I noticed that it is quite difficult to find the right position for the phone, so
> > that it is near enough for the IR link to still work, but not too near to avoid EMI
> > problems. Perhaps your IR link breaks and that's why the upload stops?

I never had a problem with that, and actually it shouldn't be
problematic, since the phone is not connected to the network at phone
book maintenance time, so there is nothing which could cause EMI.

> that was no problem for me, I put the phone in a distance of 10cm
> next to the palmtop, Baud rate is set to 38400, no EMI because there
> is no transmission from the phone. (I hear it immediately in my
> intercom loudspeaker even without ring from Stefan Peichl)

ah yes. :-) That's what I wanted to say.

Good luck
daniel

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Hi Uli

39m ago Uli Allen wrote:

> He is right: it is a nerve-racking job and it took me certainly 3 hours.

:-]
What a coincidence: I also spent about 4 hours just today to install one of
the kits in my main machine (before that I had a prototype backlight which
sucked 6 times the power than the kit does!)

Congratulations!

> I like the result although my lx200 is missing now a few lines on the lower
> part  of the screen. So I have to take my lx apart again to re-adjust the
> screen.

:-( Do you mean HORIZONTAL lines? This is bad, since it could be that
you will not be able to fix that. I damaged two screens this way, only
one or two horizontal lines are missing on each (also in the lower part
of the screen - in fact, the 1st and 3rd line from the bottom on one
and the 3rd line on the other). I was NOT able to fix this.
I SUSPECT that the reason was that I was not careful enough with the
yellow ribbon cable which connects the LCD to the screen circuit.
The first screen I damaged that way was the one I used for months now
in my prototype backlit unit. It was a bit annoying, but didn't really
decreae usefulness of the LX. The second one was today, so I decided to
try the upgrade on a third screen <g>, and now take much care of the
ribbon cable.
And now I have a perfectly working backlit screen using the new
backlight kit!

I have placed the LCD (while removing the reflective layer and while
applying the transparent foil) on a CD Jewel case, so the curcuit could
simply "hang" on the ribbon cable, and when applying pressure to the
LCD part, the ribbon cable was not affected at all.

   LCD
=============================\
+-------------------------+   |             circuit board
|       CD-BOX            |   \____________________________
+-------------------------+


You know what I mean?

This indeed avoided the missing horizontal lines.

I will add that tip to the bakclight installation instructions soon,
but please be aware that it will probably not be included in the next
backlight kits on the instructions diskette, since the kits are ready
for shipping, and I don't think Stefan Kaechele will modify them just
for one tip. ;-)

daniel

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FYI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Pigford" <rpigford3@comcast.net>
To: "Bob Christopher" <bob@PALMTOP.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: LX Floppy Drive


> The Travel Floppy 144 was (and still is) made by Accurite.  They also
became
> the standard floppy for the Itronix brand of laptop computer.  A search on
> eBay ("Accurite" or "Itronix") will often find them for sale.  For
example:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2304208249&category=169
>
> I bought one on http://www.computersurplusoutlet.com/, but I don't know if
> they have any now.
>
> For the Itronix, some additional software was provided on a floppy.  The
> good part is that the driver software for the HP100/200LX is already in
ROM
> on the PCMCIA "Passport" card portion of the kit.   For access to the
driver
> software, insert only the card in the HPLX (without the cord and floppy
> drive connected).  Under FILER, the card shows up as another drive so the
> needed driver can be copied to your config file.  With the driver copied
to
> your HPLX, a reboot, and the cord & floppy drive connected, the drive will
> show up under FILER as a lettered drive.  You will also need a 120VAC to
DC
> transformer to power the drive itself.  These are still available from
> Accurite.
> http://www.accurite.com/Travel.html
>
> Good hunting.
>     Bob Pigford
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Christopher" <bob@PALMTOP.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:52 AM
> Subject: LX Floppy Drive
>
>
> I seem to remember there was a 1.4mb floppy drive for use
> with the 100/200LX palmtops. Anyone know where I might
> obtain  one?
>
> Bob
>  Bob Christopher . Littleton, Colorado USA . bob@palmtop.com
>    Palmtop Computers . Minox Cameras . All The Small Stuff
>
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Hi Werner

2 days 20h38m ago Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:

> I tried to download my mobile phone contacts with the robot script
> phone.scr. I got a file with truncated names, the phone number and name
> separated with a pipe character. I had to remove the codepage command
> in phone.scr because my phone did not understand it.

One more idea (replying _later_ to a _previous_ message of you - I'm
going through my inbox from bottom to top today ;-)

On my homepage you can find the T39m AT command sheet
(http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx scroll down to the bottom,
I think I have it listed under "Ericsson").
Simply start WWW/LX with telnet local via IR to have a dumb terminal,
and then you can manually try the phone book AT commands and see what
the phone gives back. Then you can dive into the robot language and
debug the phone.scr script yourself. :-)

This is how I made iploading of my multi-number phonebook work.

daniel


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"Carlos Lacroze" <lacro37@yahoo.com.ar> asked about the MOTOROLA NewsCard
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:46 PM
>
> Hi, I'm looking for help with a MOTOROLA SkyCard (a SkyTel PCMCIA Card for
> receiving ONE WAY messages). It seems it is as old as the LX (at least
from
> 1994), but with far less subscribers... even in South America.
>

This is the same device as the HP-Starlink card.   I was involved in
development of a medical paging product using this technology in 1994 and
'95.  You are correct that there probably were few subscribers.  The card
was very vulnerable to physical damage since the battery case extended
outside the LX and the frame was very weak.

> Looking for DOS Software (Drivers*) for the LX to connect to the device. I
> couldn't find it in Motorola's website, neither in SkyTel. As an owner of
> the mentioned device (I bought it used), I should have it, but the seller
> previously erased it with out any backup from the 200LX he sold me. He
also
> told me he used it without any trouble.
>

I am sending Carlos the "Starlink" software from my backup.

> My first inquiry would be, if somebody knows their compatiblity? (this
card
> with the 200LX)
> - Is there anyone here who knows something about it and/ or how it works?
> - Has someone its manual/ brochure?
>

The manual I have only talks about calling the paging company to send pages.
Very little about operating the card in the 100LX or 200LX, although I
recall the help file being excellent.


  <snip>

> As the company in Argentina doesn't support that service anymore and they
> don't have any technical backup, they don't know anything about it.
> Although, they offered me that they would give me two (2) days to try it
out
> (with the actual service for the regular pagers) and only if I can make it
> work, they would let me hire their services for one year in advance (and
as
> they don't have any technical support at all, if I have any problem I
should
> still have to pay the service as if it is still given for the whole
period).

I forgot what the paging technology was called, but I think it used the
POCSAG protocol.  If the paging company supports the Motorola "Advisor"
pager, it is the same protocol.  There used to be a website (SkyTel?) that
allowed sending pages to this device, but it is probably long gone.  You
could also buy a local transmitter, allowing you to send your own pages over
a short range.

<snip>

> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Tks in advance, regards, Carlos

Good luck,

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Hi everyone

My friend bought a HP200 a year ago and the HP has also some horizontal =
missing lines. So he dismantled the unit and the display and after some =
time of searching for bad contacts on the chips (on the lower side) - he =
found some. You can try this (take magnyfying lens :-).
Good luck=20

Martin


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it)


Hi Uli

39m ago Uli Allen wrote:

> He is right: it is a nerve-racking job and it took me certainly 3 =
hours.

:-]
What a coincidence: I also spent about 4 hours just today to install one =
of
the kits in my main machine (before that I had a prototype backlight =
which
sucked 6 times the power than the kit does!)

Congratulations!

> I like the result although my lx200 is missing now a few lines on the =
lower
> part  of the screen. So I have to take my lx apart again to re-adjust =
the
> screen.

:-( Do you mean HORIZONTAL lines? This is bad, since it could be that
you will not be able to fix that. I damaged two screens this way, only
one or two horizontal lines are missing on each (also in the lower part
of the screen - in fact, the 1st and 3rd line from the bottom on one
and the 3rd line on the other). I was NOT able to fix this.
I SUSPECT that the reason was that I was not careful enough with the
yellow ribbon cable which connects the LCD to the screen circuit.
The first screen I damaged that way was the one I used for months now
in my prototype backlit unit. It was a bit annoying, but didn't really
decreae usefulness of the LX. The second one was today, so I decided to
try the upgrade on a third screen <g>, and now take much care of the
ribbon cable.
And now I have a perfectly working backlit screen using the new
backlight kit!

I have placed the LCD (while removing the reflective layer and while
applying the transparent foil) on a CD Jewel case, so the curcuit could
simply "hang" on the ribbon cable, and when applying pressure to the
LCD part, the ribbon cable was not affected at all.

   LCD
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D\
+-------------------------+   |             circuit board
|       CD-BOX            |   \____________________________
+-------------------------+


You know what I mean?

This indeed avoided the missing horizontal lines.

I will add that tip to the bakclight installation instructions soon,
but please be aware that it will probably not be included in the next
backlight kits on the instructions diskette, since the kits are ready
for shipping, and I don't think Stefan Kaechele will modify them just
for one tip. ;-)

daniel

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Hi Ken

6 days 19h33m ago Ken Yaksa - Derrick Limited wrote:

> Does anyone would like to help me to find the molex plug for
> 100LX's COM port?
>
> Since there is no way to buy the serial connect-cable for my
> palmtop in my location.... So I would like to build one by
> myself....

The plug itself is not available, except from Thaddeus maybe, with an
"open end" cable attached.
But you can make your own plug, I have descriped two methods on
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ser_plug

AFAIK, Mike Kopplin also has instructions for building a plug on his
pages at http://www.technoir.nu

daniel

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Hi Carlos

1 week 4 days 15h20m ago Carlos Lacroze wrote:

> Anyway, I read "replacement screens are extremely hard to get" at
> http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/backlight/#howto. ***I wonder if I get this
> backlight service, does it mean a whole new screen is needed (and added)?
> and in that case, would it be fixing my screen display as well ?***

No. At least not if you get installation service from the people in
Germany.
IF Thaddeus will also offer backlight upgrade, you may let them replace
the display while upgrading, this would cost a bunch of money of course
(probably their usual repair flat rate).

daniel

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Hi A.S.

1 week 2 days 13h23m ago A. S. Tepper wrote:

> Thank you for the info.  However, when I try it,
> the screen contains characters, but they are
> all jiggly, probably because the double-speed
> driver isn't running yet.  Hitting ESC again
> restarts the machine as normal.
> Help?

This is a missing DS driver.
Yo ucannot load a DS driver before the self-test routines come up, so
you have to do the test blindly.

Do the following:
1. Hit Esc-On to turn on the machine in selftest mode.
2. Hit the down arrow twice, this brings you to the keyboard test menu
item.
3. Hit enter to activate keyboard test
4. Hit all keys of the keyboard, from leftt to right and top to bottom,
i.e. Esc \ F1 F2 ...... UpArrow On Tab Filer ApptBool .......
RightArrow Q W E R and so on.
You should hear one beep per key. If one key doesn't cause any beep,
the key is not working.
If you hit 5 "wrong" keys, i.e. not in the right order, you will hear
low beeps for each new keypress. You cannot skip one key and continue
after that key, it will give you a "keyboard bad".

daniel




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Hi Martin

02h38m ago Vagner Martin wrote:

> My friend bought a HP200 a year ago and the HP has also some horizontal missing lines. So he dismantled the unit and the display and after some
> time of searching for bad contacts on the chips (on the lower side) - he found some. You can try this (take magnyfying lens :-).
> Good luck

You are right, also horizontal lines can be caused by bad IC contacts,
but in this case (if you just installed the backlight upgrade) it is
very likely that not bad IC contacts, but bad ribbon cable contacts are
the problem..

Stefan Kaechele just gave me a hint: He reported that a friend of him
fixed such problems (not on the 200LX display, though) using a flat
iron. Simly heat that ribbon cable shortly and press it down to the
LCD. Maybe even some rubber can be applied to press the ribbon cable
permanently down, this may also help.

Uli, please report! I hope not too many lines are affected!

daniel


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Does anybody have a bottom half to an HP200LX case they don't need?  The=20
plastic around the screw head by the IR window broke on mine.=20

TNX,
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If you still have the piece that broke off, you can reattach it with a
solvent cement such as Tenax-7R (best) or Testors. Both should be available
at a hobby shop. They work by disolving (welding) the plastic, so they do
not add any material to the gap, (such as epoxy, super glue or plastic
cement do).

Bob

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Does anybody have a bottom half to an HP200LX case they don't need?  The
plastic around the screw head by the IR window broke on mine.

TNX,
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Hi:

I know this is quite off-topic for our group, but I also know that many of
us search for something with a keyboard that can do more 'modern' PC
interaction than our beloved LX.

I have a Sony NR70V PalmOS PDA - the one with the camera - that I am
looking to sell. It
has barely been used, only to test out an email sync program for our
company. I've been back to using my HP Jornada 728 ... and my 200LX of
course.

- Screen is flawless
- Case has a few very small and light scuffs.
- Thumb-type keyboard, twist screen.
- Everything from the original box - except for the box - is included.
16MB
Memory stick, cradle, CD, manuals, etc.

For a review of the NR70v, check out the Gadgeteer site -
http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/sony-nr70v-review.html

Asking $350 including priority shipping in the US.

Thanks,

Mike
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hi:</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I know this is quite off-topic for our
group, but I also know that many of us search for something with a keyboard
that can do more 'modern' PC interaction than our beloved LX.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>I have a Sony NR70V PalmOS PDA - the one with the
camera - that I am looking to sell. It<br>
has barely been used, only to test out an email sync program for our<br>
company. I've been back to using my HP Jornada 728 ... and my 200LX of<br>
course.<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>- Screen is flawless<br>
- Case has a few very small and light scuffs.</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>- Thumb-type keyboard, twist screen.<br>
- Everything from the original box - except for the box - is included.
16MB<br>
Memory stick, cradle, CD, manuals, etc.<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>For a review of the NR70v, check out the Gadgeteer
site -<br>
http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/sony-nr70v-review.html<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>Asking $350 including priority shipping in the US.<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>Thanks,<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>Mike</tt></font>
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Greetings all.  Apologies if I missed any threads on this topic.

I recall sometime ago there was a mention of putting a 8G hard disk into an
OB 800.  I couldn't find this though.

If anyone has managed to retrofit a larger HD, would appreciate your passing
on the model and any mods/updates required.

Also, does anyone know the largest size supported in BIOS?  HP site makes
no mention.  No reply to my query too.

(background:  just inherited a functioning model, 80MB, but with a dead drive,
known to be last running NT4.0 SP6a.  I intend to try out Win2K on it.
Main use
is for remote access and light office use)

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Daniel,
you certainly are right - you have a lot of experience meanwhile.
I remember that vertical lines where caused by lack of contact to the
ic-board of the screen.
The missing lines in the lower part of the screen are a bit inconvenient
because that is the part one writes most of the time.
One learns a lot if one does it the first time. To avoid these problems it
is certainly better to let someone do it who has done it already several
times.
My lx is missing now 3 lines. Do you mean that the ribbon cable is broken?
And that can't be replaced? I can't remember that part at present time.
Next week I might give it another try (when my nerves have recovered a bit).
The backlight is bright enough and if power consumtion is reasonable it is
a good solution. I didn't believe that I would get one anymore.
Thanks again.
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Daniel wrote: heat that ribbon cable shortly

That sounds very good and gives new hope to me.
Next week I will take apart my hplx and try your hint.
But the missing lines don't worry me that much and I do use
the hplx a lot during the day.
I'll let you know.
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Is there any reason you can't just replace the ribbon cable with 18
wires?
They'll solder fine on the display end.  Never looked at the other end.
Use #30 wire-wrap wire.  Bend it into shape and sandwich it between two
pieces of shipping tape.

I still have a Hitachi LMG6780XNFR display for sale.
mike

Bunch of stuff For Sale and Wanted at the link below.
Police Scanner, LCD overhead projector
Tek 2465, ham radio, 30pS pulser
Tektronix Concept Books, spot welding head...
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Monitor/4710/

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:11:35 +0100 Uli Allen <Ulrich.Allen@GMX.DE>
writes:
> Daniel wrote: heat that ribbon cable shortly
>
> That sounds very good and gives new hope to me.
> Next week I will take apart my hplx and try your hint.
> But the missing lines don't worry me that much and I do use
> the hplx a lot during the day.
> I'll let you know.
> Uli
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Hi Uli

26m ago Uli Allen wrote:

> you certainly are right - you have a lot of experience meanwhile.
> I remember that vertical lines where caused by lack of contact to the
> ic-board of the screen.

As I said, it CAN be a bad ribbon cable contact, but doesn't have to.
But since I have seen this problem on two of my sceens now, and always
in the lower part (last DOS text line, as you say), I believe it is the
same problem here.

> One learns a lot if one does it the first time. To avoid these problems it
> is certainly better to let someone do it who has done it already several
> times.

Only problem is that nobody exists who has done it several times yet.
;-) So the first ones always take a little more risk.

> My lx is missing now 3 lines. Do you mean that the ribbon cable is broken?

The cable itself is not broken, but there are probably some of the
contacts not tight nought anymore to drive the lines properly.
As I mentioned in my earlier mail, maybe the trick with the flat iron
will help (but be careful! I don't know how much heat the plastic can
stand...), or maybe it's enough to put a piece of rubber above the
loose contacts and let the metal frame press it against the ribbon
cable.
I have not yet tested one of these ideas, ub since two of my own screes
are affected by that problem, I will do so some day, and report of
course.

> And that can't be replaced?

No. Absolutely not.

> I can't remember that part at present time.

The yellow flat short cable, which is on the right side of the LCD and
connects it to the screen's circuit board.

> Next week I might give it another try (when my nerves have recovered a bit).

:-]
I needed several weeks to do another upgrade. ;-)

> The backlight is bright enough and if power consumtion is reasonable it is
> a good solution. I didn't believe that I would get one anymore.

It would be interesting, how the backlight affects battery life on your
machine. The one I tested it with (a single speed unit with 2MB RAM)
needed twice the current from the batteries than it did without
backlight.
I will measure soon on my current DS 32MB unit, which I have upgraded
yesterday. And what a machine do you have?

daniel


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My xfinder server running on Windows-XP
doesn't cooperate with my hp200lx.
I can evoke it but there is no contact between them.
Is it only my problem?
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Daniel asked: And what a machine do you have?

I've got a double speed 64mb lx200 and didn't have the chance
to find out about the batterie life.
The difference on the 12V line is just 25mA (without) to 42mA (with
backlight) which looks impressive good (the pcmcia slot not in use).
With my modem in idle mode it is 35mA to 52mA which shows the increase
is 17mA on the 12V dc line.
I'll measure that on the batterie line tomorrow and will tell you.
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Hi!
I did. I put a 10Gig Hard drive in a 800ct 166. I used EZ-Drive to get passt
the stupit BIOS. I wish HP or some one
would update that thing.

Helmut in Colorado

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To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:36 PM
Subject: OT: max internal hdd size & model for OB 800ct


>Greetings all.  Apologies if I missed any threads on this topic.
>
>I recall sometime ago there was a mention of putting a 8G hard disk into an
>OB 800.  I couldn't find this though.
>
>If anyone has managed to retrofit a larger HD, would appreciate your
passing
>on the model and any mods/updates required.
>
>Also, does anyone know the largest size supported in BIOS?  HP site makes
>no mention.  No reply to my query too.
>
>(background:  just inherited a functioning model, 80MB, but with a dead
drive,
>known to be last running NT4.0 SP6a.  I intend to try out Win2K on it.
>Main use
>is for remote access and light office use)
>
>Thanks
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On 2003-01-27, I wrote:

> However, I cannot get EMM200.EXE to work on my machine
> (HP 200LX, BIOS 1.02A D, German 1998 model with 2 Mb RAM).
> It always displays:
>
>  "EMS-file contains non-contiguous blocks"
>
> although I ran MAKEEMS on a completely blank drive C: and
> CHKDSK also lists the C:\EMM200.DAT file as being contiguous.
>
> So, I'm currently stuck. Is there anything I should need to
> know beyond the docs in order to properly set up EMM200.EXE?
> Any experiences, any ideas?

Hm, should I take the silence as a sign that noone is actually
using EMM200.EXE, or as if noone has ever seen this error message,
or just as if noone has any ideas, what I might be doing wrong?

Or to put it another way: Does someone have /success/ loading
EMM200.EXE and then load DR-DOS HIMEM.SYS /CHIPSET=EMMUMB in
order to provide UMB memory?

Or has someone already developed another solution to provide
UMBs on the LX (so far, I haven't found any, but then, it will
take much more time before I will have finished reading all
the backlogs of this list since 1996)?

Well, since I do have the sources of all components involved,
I should be able to track down what's going wrong and make
it work, eventually, but I would hate to waste time searching
elsewhere, when it would be just a simple and common
configuration error on my side... ;-)

Greetings,

 Matthias

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Hi,

> If anyone needs my files (phone.scr, the converter program for the HPLX
> phone book etc), please let me know.

I have been using Daniel's script for several times and it works great
between the 200LX and my T39m for multiples phone numbers per individual.

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Thanks Helmut.

Helmut in Colorado wrote:

>I did. I put a 10Gig Hard drive in a 800ct 166. I used EZ-Drive to get passt
>the stupit BIOS. I wish HP or some one
>would update that thing.

Which OS did you use?  I've installed Win2K on a 64MB 133 pentium desktop, but
since this is a laptop (albeit 166MHz), it may be a bit slower (slower
hard disk & sub-systems) etc.  Hopefully the 80MB ram will help to equalise
things a bit.

The reason HP does not update it, is the cost vs returns.  They see no
returns
(the OB800 is officially dead) so they don't want to maintain any support
engineering.
This BTW, is HP-invent, not the HP we once knew.  Also, I'm not surprised
HP did
not respond to my mail - if you check their support pages, the OB800 is no
longer
even listed as "other omnibook laptops" - email support is dropped a few years
after the product is obsoleted.  To be fair, this is not unique to HP but
seems to be
an industry practice.

sigh.......

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Well, I had the same problem when I got my Win XP system, and I just gave
up.  Maybe there is still a solution  .  .  .
Transfile works fine, though.
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Subject: xfs on Windows-XP


> My xfinder server running on Windows-XP
> doesn't cooperate with my hp200lx.
> I can evoke it but there is no contact between them.
> Is it only my problem?
> Uli
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Matthias Paul wrote:

> On 2003-01-27, I wrote:
>
> > However, I cannot get EMM200.EXE to work on my machine
> > (HP 200LX, BIOS 1.02A D, German 1998 model with 2 Mb RAM).
> > It always displays:
> >
> >  "EMS-file contains non-contiguous blocks"
> >
Do not forget there are _TWO_ versions of EMM200.exe.
EMM200.exe is for those LX's with 1 MB onboard and 1 MB on the
daughterboard (or more..). If you have 2MB onboard ( run the ESC_ON
memory test, and see if the thing counts first to 127 instead of 4
times to 31), you must use EMM240.EXE!

Michel



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Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 7:25 AM
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: OT: max internal hdd size & model for OB 800ct


Thanks Helmut.

Helmut in Colorado wrote:

>I did. I put a 10Gig Hard drive in a 800ct 166. I used EZ-Drive to get
passt
>the stupit BIOS. I wish HP or some one
>would update that thing.

Which OS did you use?  I've installed Win2K on a 64MB 133 pentium desktop,
but
since this is a laptop (albeit 166MHz), it may be a bit slower (slower
hard disk & sub-systems) etc.  Hopefully the 80MB ram will help to equalise
things a bit.

I use Win 98 secon ed. also I do have 80 MB RAM. H-P is no longer H-P since
the founder passed away. I worked for them almost 20 years and then I had no
longer permission to come back. I also bought a two port USB 2 PCMCIA card
from CompUSA and it works great. not bad for $55.00.

The reason HP does not update it, is the cost vs returns.  They see no
returns
(the OB800 is officially dead) so they don't want to maintain any support
engineering.
This BTW, is HP-invent, not the HP we once knew.  Also, I'm not surprised
HP did
not respond to my mail - if you check their support pages, the OB800 is no
longer
even listed as "other omnibook laptops" - email support is dropped a few
years
after the product is obsoleted.  To be fair, this is not unique to HP but
seems to be
an industry practice.

sigh.......

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On 2003-01-31, Michel Bel wrote:

> Do not forget there are _TWO_ versions of EMM200.exe.
> EMM200.exe is for those LX's with 1 MB onboard and 1 MB
> on the daughterboard (or more..). If you have 2MB onboard
> [...]
> you must use EMM240.EXE!

Thanks, Michal. That was the trick! Sounds obvious now that
you mentioned it, but I didn't tried EMM240 until now because
the docs explicitly warned that it would be only for 4 Mb
200LX's and that EMM200 should be used for 1 Mb and 2 Mb
100LX/200LX's.

Suggestion to the LX FAQ and S.U.P.E.R maintainers:

Add a note on the site and in the EMM200/EMM240 documentation
inside the archives that EMM240 should be used for late model
200LX units with 2 Mb *onboard* memory.

BTW. DR-DOS HIMEM.SYS still refuses to take over the EMS memory
provided by EMM240 and TREMM, but I will now be able to track
this down as soon as I find some time to investigate this in
better details. I will report back here.

Greetings,

 Matthias

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Date:         Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:59:37 -0600
Reply-To:     Hal Goldstein <Hal@THADDEUS.COM>
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From:         Hal Goldstein <Hal@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      Re: 200LX + AudioVox CompactFlash GSM Card = mini 700LX +
              ,Nokia,alternative ?
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<<What about Thaddeus ? I believe they also sell PocketPC accesories, so
maybe they could test it.>>

Nope, at this time we just sell the magazine and related products.

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Date:         Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:48:00 -0700
Reply-To:     jeremiah.burton@shipleygroup.com
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From:         "Jeremiah J. Burton" <jeremiah.burton@SHIPLEYGROUP.COM>
Organization: The Shipley Group
Subject:      Just got an HP 95LX
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I just got an HP 95 LX.  I don;t really know anything about it.  Is
there anywhere that I can download a manual from?  Also, I was wondering
if it were possible to use a Compact Flash card with it, in a PCMCIA
adapter?  If it is possible, is there any limit to the amount of memory
that the unit can use/see?

thanks


Jeremiah J. Burton
The Shipley Group
1584 S 500 W, Suite 201
Woods Cross, UT 84010

(801) 298-7800
(801) 298-7820 fax

jeremiah.burton@shipleygroup.com



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Date:         Fri, 31 Jan 2003 17:12:15 -0600
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<I seem to remember there was a 1.4mb floppy drive for use
with the 100/200LX palmtops. Anyone know where I might
obtain  one?>


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