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Date:         Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:40:00 -0800
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From:         "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Backlight
Comments: To: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>

Hi All,

I've had the 95, 100 and now a 200Lx.
The backlight for me is a necessity.

Been  a nightman now for over 20yrs. (:-)


----Original Message-----
   >From:       Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
   >To:         HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
   >Subject:            Re: Backlight
    >Date:      Tuesday, November 30, 1999 4:18 PM
   >
   >I don't think the "need for backlight" issue will be resolved until many
   >of you actually have them and use them for a while.  While some will say
   >they're great (if only to justify the cost they spent), I expect to hear
   >some others say it's nice but they don't use it as much as they
   >expected.
   >
   >cheers... Russ  (who is NOT getting backlight for this 1X 32M unit)

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 07:11:05 +0100
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              MARK <mpmark@TISCALINET.IT>
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See my Email from today

Morgan
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 5:05 PM
Subject: PCMCIA Disks & 16 Meg Memory Available


> I  have (9) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are
> in excellent condition. They have only been used a  very few times on
> testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg
> PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for
> $65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! I also have (10)
>
> 16 Meg 72Pin EDO Simms for sale. I sell (1) 16 Meg Simms for $15.00 and
> I sell (2) or more for $13.00 a piece plus $3.00 shipping . You can send
>
> payment to my
>  address at:
>
> Scott Moore
> 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
> Beaverton, Or 97006
>
> I will email you back  the day I receive your payment and let you know
> that your disks our on the way. I always send out next day unless I
> receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on
> Monday. Please email me and let me if you are interested and when you
> are sending payment so I can hold your disks for you. The response has
> been tremendous and the people I have worked with on this group have
> been great.  Thanks alot!   Scott
>
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Date:         Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:28:12 -0800
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:23:14 -0500, Buzz - <buzz_liteyr@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> I'm still trying to locate the website for the DOS version of ICQ.
> (MICQ?)
>
> I came across something called TrueICQ when doing a search for "MICQ".
> Details are sketchy on the site as to the requirements for the
> software.  Is this what I'm looking for?  Thus far the webpage author
> has not returned my email.


Hi All,

ICQ On The HP 200lx (MICQ for DOS) can be found at:
http://members.tripod.com/~ladsoft/


The above information was stored and retrieved from FFDB. Get your copy
from the SUPER Site. (:-)


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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 01:45:06 -0500
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              nospam@UNDECIMUS.FREESERVE.CO.UK
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Wed,  1 Dec 1999 06:37:10 +0000 (GMT)

04h48m46s ago ...
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:48:24 -0800 (PST), Joe Murphy wrote:

> Can anyone suggest a reliable ISP that has pretty much world-wide local
> phone number coverage that will work with WWW/LX?

All I can think of is Compuserve. But I hope the ATTGLOBAL thing is
fixed. They have another problem in the USA where folks are getting
"connection reset by peer" problems - still not resolved either. Since
the buyout of IBM.NET by ATT they have changed something but we don't
know what!!

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 00:01:02 -0800
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "Egbert" <stayhome@midsouth.net>
Subject: HP200LX 2meg for SALE $175.00 LIKE NEW 5weeks old
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 21:28:06 -0800

HP200LX 2meg for SALE $175.00 Like new 5weeks old. I paid $395.00
but I'm willing to sell fast and the best way I know how is to lower the
price...
Check www.hp.com and find out that this product sells for $499.00 I used =
it
for about two weeks and then I decided to buy the HP620LX. so I put the
HP200LX back up. I just hope someone else can get better use of it than =
for
it to be sitting in the closet....


Physical specifications
Dimensions: 16 x 8.64 x 2.54cm (6.3 x 3.4 x 1in)
Weight: 312g (11oz) with batteries
Part No.: 200LX (2-MB) F1061A
200LX (4-MB) F1216A

Built-in Application MS DOS 5.0
Pocket Quicken
Lotus 1-2-3 release 2.4
cc:mail Remote
Data communicatons
Appointment Book
Phone Book
HP Financial Calculator
Memo Editor with Outliner
Notetaker
Database
Filer
World Time and Stopwatch
Application Manager
System Macros
Setup Utility

Memory 3 MB ROM
2 MB RAM (HP F1061A)
PCMCIA version 2.0 card slot
Read and write to flash disk cards

Standard PC Architecture and Central Processing Unit (CPU) IBM PC
architecture
Intel 80 C186 CPU running at 7.91 Mhz

Display CGA-compatible FTN liquid crystal
80 columns by 25 rows, 640 x 200 pixels
Zoom options

Keyboard layout Familiar QWERTY layout
Separate numeric keypad
10 function keys
8 software application access key

Input/output Built-in 9 wire serial interface for connection to RS-232
devices
Built-in infrared transmitter/receiver up to 115K bps for HP 200 LX to HP
200 LX and other wireless communications.
Built-in printer driver supporting these serial printer types:HP Laserjet,
Epson FX-80, IBM ProPrinter
PCMCIA version 2.0 plug in card slot for running PC software and expanding
I/O memory: optional disk card available
Optional HP F1021 B Connectivity Pack for file transfers between an HP =
200
LX and a DOS compatible PC

Power Two 1.5V AA main batteries
One 3V CR2032 coin cell backup battery
Optional 1.5V AA rechargeable batteries
Optional adapter: HP F1011 A available in worldwide configurations for
powering unit and recharging Ni Cd batteries

Operating Requirements Operating temperature 0=BA to 40=BAC (32=BA to 104=BA=
F)
Storage temperature 0=BA to 60=BAC (32=BA to 140=BAF)
Humidity :90% relative humidity 40=BAC (104=BAF ) maximum







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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 00:33:06 -0800
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              loic.sautour@WANADOO.FR
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From:         Loic Sautour <loic.sautour@WANADOO.FR>
Subject:      200LX and Digital Camera
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I found a pretty nice freeware called photopc
(http://www.average.org/digicam/) and I successfully control my camera (Agfa
E Photo 1280) with the 200 LX. Apparently, photopc works with:

Agfa (ePhoto line), Epson PhotoPC, Olympus, Sanyo, Nikon, Sierra Imaging,
Toshiba (list on http://www.average.org/digicam/cameras.html).

I started to write a user interface with LXBatch.

Since I looked in the archive of this list to see if there was any mention
of this software and did not find anything, I thought I would write this
post.

I am new on this list and found it great. I've been using LX for more than 6
years now and it is my 4th one. Thanks to the people maintaining and
contributing to this list, I enjoy it a lot.

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 00:39:38 -0700
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              Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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I have just installed Hackgame on my 200lx.

What experience have people had playing this?  How does it compare to Rogue
(it looks like it is more complex) or ZZT (it is more visible)?  Is it
worth keeping around (I like those Rogue-like games).

It requires ANSI.SYS to run.  Where can I get this.  It seems to work if I
run ANSI.COM from my AUTOEXEC.BAT file.

Thanks!

-- Terry

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 09:21:00 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      ANN: New version of LXTeX 2e available!
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Hi friends,

on my Palmtop Page
daniel.hplx.net/palmtop.html

there is the new version 1.3 of LXTeX 2e available!

There is only an update, not a whole package v1.3, because there are
only 2 files modified / added compared to the previous version 1.2.
So if you already have version 1.2, you can simply download the
update-ZIP and install it.
If you either use an older version of LXTeX than 1.2 or no LXTeX at all
and you want to install version 1.3, you have to install v1.2 first and
then update it to 1.3.
But that's very easy.

Take a look at my web page to see what improvements I made.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 10:23:24 +0100
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Martin Bergvill wrote:
> I do not want to put words in Andreas`s mouth, but I think that he said
> that wap uses not ppp and therefor you can not log on to a wap server
> as you do with your "normal" isp. Therefore the www could not be used
> and therefor needed some work with a new communicationmodul to work.

WAP is a protocol that *does* run over PPP.  A few days ago, we had
a simple trial where someone with a Nokia WAP prototype cell phone
dialed up over our access server just as anybody else.  However, to
do anything useful, this cellphone relied on a so-called WAP server
which is more or less a proxy server which translates "normal" web
content into WAP-form.

This meas, a WAP device typically implments a PPP stack upon which
WAP is layered.

> There are some wapservices here in Norway, and there will be much
> more soon.. I guess this is true for many countries..

WAP seems to take-off quite extremely.  Right now, every cellphone
operator is busily implementing something although none of them seems
quite sure what they are doing ;)

Check out http://www.wapforum.org/ for more information.

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 07:02:44 -0500
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              S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM
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From:         Steve Carder <S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: F4 in memo and notes
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>
> as you all know, the F4 in memo for find erases the whole masterpiece =
in the
> apps notes

Buddy disables this key function.  Actually, Buddy makes you press the F4 =
key
twice before it will clear the note.

Steve Carder

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 07:15:14 -0500
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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From:         Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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AVI wrote:

"So instead of hammering on making the screen larger leave
the screen alone and use the margins to add the elecronics
required to provide lighting from behind, so when you are
in darkened areas you can still use the palmtop."


OK,I get the message,no idea to continue hammering on this issue.

But you could perhaps give a physical explanation to why the contrast=
 is so good?Or perhaps a chemical as it is liquid crystals in the LCD=
 display after all.

Lars Hedstroem/Sweden



  Avi

The above is my own private opinion.
For official D&A Software response,
please write to:  support@dasoft.com
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Martin wrote:


> This is something I have never understood.. Why is it that
the US is so
> far "behind" when it comes to digital cellular phonenetwork?
I am not
> writing this to make fun of anyone. I am just curios why..


An other part-explanation could be that(as we discussed offlist earlier)bot=
h the Norwegian and the Swedish state owned telephone companies have=
 been very aggressive concerning building a modern IT infrastructure.This=
 has been a political goal a la BIG GOVERNMENT.

And as BIG GOVERNMENT is a very ugly word in US-I have understood that=
 after looking at american TV programs,the
 politicians  there obviosly use this expression as a weapon in the=
 political debate-I guess there has not been a similar goal targeted=
 IT development in US.


BTW,talking about GSM coverage,Norway as the most montyiest country=
 in Europe(Switzerland perhaps excepted,Hallo Goldie)haven't you problems=
 because of this?


Best Regards

Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 05:31:02 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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I've finally decided to switch my palmtop journal from the Database
application to the Appointment Book's Todo app.  Is there any way of
moving my existing data over directly to Todo format, or is there at least
a way to set up a macro to copy and paste all the information from one to
the other?  Each database record is keyed on the Date field, so perhaps it
could copy that, go into Todo, go to that date, and then copy the note
field over to an entry on that date.  Can this be set up to cycle through
all the database records by itself, or would I have to press the Fn-F10
key (assuming I assign the macro to that key, of course) a full 830 times
to get all 830 records?

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 13:52:52 +0100
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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I am using telnet to my Unix account and there we have patched Lynx to =
use SSL
so that I can retrive secure web pages (https://).

> > Is there a HPLX based web browser that supports secure HTTP? This is
> > the same encrypted web surfing that you use when sending in credit
> > card or banking infromation. It typically 'talks' on TCP port 443. =
You
> > use URLS like https://somesever.somewhere.com
>
> According to Andreas, as I recall, doing https would require at least a
> 386.  We'll have to wait for the Morphy One or the equivalent.
>

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 14:27:54 +0100
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
Subject:      WAP / Metcalfe's Law
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Metcalfe's Law says, that the bigger network wins.
So it is contraproductive, when the market pushes WAP
browsers for devices, which can use normal HTML
browsers (as PDA's, HPLX etc.).

http://www.useit.com/alertbox/990725.html

There will be a smaller WAP-network
which will loose. Think of the VRML browsers. Where
are they today? There is a better solution:

When a Webmaster has to present his data to WAP devices,
there are 3 ways to do it:

***    present a WAP-only page

***    present a WAP version beside the HTML site

***    Let the webserver/gateway do the job

The first solution excludes the internet users, which can't
process WAP sites (e.g. HV users).
Metcalfe's Law says, that these sites will loose after some
time (e.g. like Compuserve).

The second solution doubles the work of the Webmaster.
It is nearly impossible to do something like this, if a lot of
deep, reliable and up-do-date data should be available.

The third solution is the right one IMHO. The apache server
can do the job. It is possible to check out, which type of
browser the client uses. This is practical, if you want to
check, if the browser does e.g. frames or JavaScript etc.
You can then redirect it to a frameless or JavaScriptless
page. This is already done by a lot of websites.

Now instead of redirect, the server could be able to
translate a site into a WAP-version. If the server cannot
do it, a Perl script should be able to do that. There already
exist some WAP-Gateways which should be available
soon.

Some on the list mentioned, that it would be nice, to have a
WAP browser on the LX. This suggested, that it needs a
special browser, to get WAP content. Perhaps HV doesn't
do WAP, but this is not a question of the client, but of the
server. Think of Metcalfe's Law. And Goeldi's Law (g) is:

"When the content is really important,
there will be a way to open it to ALL of your visitors.
Your visitors don't have to buy a special ticket,
to get your content. When this is NOT possible,
your content is not really important"

The solutions should look like this:

WAP site  --> WAP code --> Gateway --> HTML code

or

HTML site --> HTML code --> Gateway --> WAP code

VRML is dead. It was called the ultimate webdesign kick.
WAP will need a functionality to translate for non-WAP
browsers. Otherwise it will be dead too in a few years.

-goe-

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 14:30:59 +0100
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>>have't anyone seen atleast one handheld-contrast
>>  as good as the LX?
>
>Yes, I have. A friend of mine had a Psion 3a. I remember
>thinking at the time that the contrast was better than the LX.

Has the Psion 3a backlight?
Is it a color screen?

-goe-

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 14:34:31 +0100
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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When you really LX the right way,
you will be finished, before it's dark.
Of course, ALL the WinCE users are not finished,
before it's dark. That's why they NEED a backlight.
But if you are LXing like a real LXer,
your work is done waaaaay fast.

So the backlight is not a need, it's a 'nice to have'.

-goe-



>If you have not missed meals because you were busy on your 200LX
>You have not yet began to FULLY use it <G>


>>> > But anyway. The LX screen is perfect. When it is dark, I don't LX.


>>> I even LX in the dark ;-)


>>Anybody who doesn't LX in the dark is clearly not obeying the first law of
>>palmtop computing: "Use your palmtop at all times and in all situations,
>>because that's what it's for."  <g>

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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> When you really LX the right way, you will be finished, before it's
> dark. Of course, ALL the WinCE users are not finished, before it's
> dark. That's why they NEED a backlight. But if you are LXing like a
> real LXer, your work is done waaaaay fast. So the backlight is not a
> need, it's a 'nice to have'.

Heh heh.. For you, perhaps.  For others, it's a big need, and the lack of
a backlight, for them, is a serious flaw in the basic 200LX design.  And
for others, it's neither nice to have nor a need.  In the same way that,
for me, conversion to Outlook is not a need or a nice to have at all,
because I don't use it.  For all those who do, though, Outloook <-> 200LX
conversion is a desperate need.

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> This is something I have never understood.. Why is it that
>the US is so far "behind" when it comes to digital cellular
>phonenetwork?

It is not only the cellular network. In the US ISDN is 56kbps.
In Europe it is 64kbps.

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"I am using telnet to my Unix account and there we have patched Lynx to use
SSL
so that I can retrive secure web pages (https://)."


Do you use this telnet on the LX?
This will be only really secure, if you have to login twice:

1.    Login with Telnet (your password is transferred as plain text)

2.    Start patched Lynx

3.    Login again (now secure)

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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> It is not only the cellular network. In the US ISDN is 56kbps. In
> Europe it is 64kbps.

Not true.  ISDN is 64kbps or 56kbps per channel depending on how far you
are from the telephone company's switching office, and other factors like
line quality. Mine does 64kbps per channel with no problem.

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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> Do you use this telnet on the LX? This will be only really secure, if
> you have to login twice:
>
> 1.    Login with Telnet (your password is transferred as plain text)
> 2.    Start patched Lynx
> 3.    Login again (now secure)

You still wouldn't be secure.  There's no way to be secure via telnet from
the 200LX; the data is always transmitted back to the palmtop in plain
text.  If only we had an ssh client, things would be better, but it seems
that would take too much processing power.

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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> Has the Psion 3a backlight? Is it a color screen?

I believe it does have a backlight, but not a color screen.  The new Psion
7 does have a color screen, but it seems rather large for a "palmtop."

Personally, having seen several Psion 3A screens, I think the 200LX has
better contrast, or at least my specific unit.  But that's just my
opinion.

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I've got my palmtop successfully spewing out infrared - but I don't have an
IR-enabled printer to listen to it.  (I suppose the analogy should be 'look
at it'?)

And I've got my laptop (at work) connected to the LAN with an IR port
looking for something to see and do.
And it's connected to a Laserjet printer.

So it seems I ought to make them talk so they don't feel so lonely.

On SUPER there is a DOS utility called OMNIPRN that will read data in from
the palmtop via a serial port (eg COM1) and output it to the PC-connected
parallel printer port (eg LPT1).  It works as intended - but it couldn't
listen to COM3 (default IR port) and it's hard-coded to LPT1.

I like the idea of replacing the serial cable to COM1 by infrared and also
replacing LPT1 by the lan-connected laser-jet printer.  And then running
the utility in the background in Windoze95.
Any programmers looking for a nice little project?

(And while I'm looking for something to point my IR beam at (having given
up on the TV which is too far away) I'm wondering if I can control my
daughter's Furby????)

Thanks for indulging my daydreams!
Jez

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On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Ed Padin wrote:
> It all makes sense if you think about it. At the very least, if we had an
> FPU, we could do 'fast math' on the LX. Encryption requires many
> floating-point-operations/second (FLOPS?). I thought that at least the low
> bandwidth requirements would overcome the obvious delays imposed by the lack
> of fast math abilities in the LX. I know that the CE platforms have an SSH
> client available but they also have a much better CPU. It's the OS that
> sucks.

Actually, encryption takes a lot of integer/boolean math.
Not floating point math.  The instruction set in the Intel
chip is probably richer than any in a CE device, but the
80186 is 16 bit and clocked at a much lower rate.  A client
for the LX would probably be big (a memory hog) and slow.

Steve
FWB FL, USA

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you wrote:
> If it had been a bigger screen I would have understood it.There is a
>  frame around the present screen of the HP which is about 1cm thick
and
>So instead of hammering on making the screen larger leave
>the screen alone and use the margins to add the elecronics

my preference would be leaving the screen as it is, but downsizing the whole
unit to screen size plus add a fold up keybord starting below the F and apps
keys - and make room for it to take 2 mini flash cards. That size (less
weight) would comfortably fit into my shirt pocket without pulling down the
shirt over my bra too much :)

there are many powerful notepads etc out there, but none of shirt pocket
size; i think it is first the size (and battery consumption) which sold the
LX, then the software.

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>Not true.  ISDN is 64kbps or 56kbps per channel depending on how far you
>are from the telephone company's switching office, and other factors like
>line quality. Mine does 64kbps per channel with no problem.

How far can you be with 64kbps?

-goe-

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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> How far can you be with 64kbps?

I'm not sure.  I believe when I had it installed in March 1998 they told
me the limit for ISDN at all is something like 5 kilometers, and also
there's sometimes problems with equipment in the line between the
telephone company and the end user's location.

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>I've finally decided to switch my palmtop journal
>from the Database application to the Appointment Book's
>Todo app.  Is there any way of moving my existing data
>over directly to Todo format, or is there at least
>a way to set up a macro to copy and paste all the
>information from one to the other?

Not simple, tho you can try experimenting with gdbdump/adbload combinations.
Problem is that the formats may differ slightly and require added programatic
tweaking, resulting in more time than a manual effort (tho that's no excuse if
you're a programmer).

If you go this route, I'd suggest working out the (related) details for going
the other way in case you change your mind later about using Todo.

>Each database record is keyed on the Date field, so perhaps
>it could copy that, go into Todo, go to that date, and then
>copy the note field over to an entry on that date.  Can this
>be set up to cycle through all the database records by itself,
>or would I have to press the Fn-F10 key (assuming I assign
>the macro to that key, of course) a full 830 times
>to get all 830 records?

I haven't tried a lot of macro-chaining, tho I know it's possible.  Maybe one
macro can end by referring to another macro, which when done, refers back to the
first ... and loop that way?

Another thing to try would be keystroke emulation programs, and just build a
script with 830 iterations of the same sequence.

I haven't tried any of the above, so can't recommend anything more specific
other than BACKUP your files first (tho I know I'm preaching to the choir here
<g> )

- Longden

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I have tried to install two WWW/LX 1.1 in the application manager so=
 I can have two emailadresses,but get the message that it is already=
 installed when doing the second,even if I don't use neither the same=
 Icon nor the same drive.

Or perhaps there is another way to have multi-emailadresses?

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Wed,  1 Dec 1999 11:10:21 -0500 (EST)

You should look at CAMEDOS

http://www.butaman.ne.jp:8000/~tsuruzoh

Not LXBatch, but it's menu driven


07h37m15s ago ...
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Loic Sautour wrote:

> I found a pretty nice freeware called photopc...
*
* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
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> > This is something I have never understood.. Why is it that
> >the US is so far "behind" when it comes to digital cellular
> >phonenetwork?
>
> It is not only the cellular network. In the US ISDN is 56kbps.
> In Europe it is 64kbps.

Most ISDN I see sold in the US is 64K. I have no idea when
you got the 56K number, but it is wrong.

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion.
For official D&A Software response,
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Hi all.

I've had to part with my Konica Q-Mini recently and am looking for a replacement
digital camera that works well with the 200LX.

I know Avi has recently gone with the Canon A5, but only the A50 zoom seems to
be showing up on the market ($320 low).

Would appreciate any leads on a nice digital camera in the $300 price range
(less is always better) which has your personal recommendations (otherwise I can
read spec sheets like anyone else).  Some cameras are plain lousy image-wise,
and other cameras may take good pictures but are a pain to transfer or display
on the LX.

BTW, those of you with digital cameras ... how are you making the prints?  My
previous cameras came with image manipulation software that left a lot to be
desired when it came to making a simple set of prints.  Problem is that ink and
paper are expensive, so I didn't want to print a single 4x6" shot on a 8.5x11"
sheet, nor did I want to spend a lot of time merging, cropping and rotating
images manually to print each sheet.

I found Win 95 software called "Qimage" on the web ($30 shareware) that
basically is supposed to let you 1) designate the files to print, 2) desginate
the layout to use 3) hit the print button, leave and come back when the stack of
prints are done.  Anyone else use this for printing?  Thanks.

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:50:48 -0500
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Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:

"my preference would be leaving the screen as it is, but
downsizing the wholeunit to screen size plus add a fold up keybord starting=
 belowthe F and appskeys - and make room for it to take 2 mini flash=
 cards..."

That would need a far more complicated surgery than my proposal about=
 a bigger screen within the present size.


"That size (less weight) would comfortably fit into my shirt pocket=
 withoutpulling down theshirt over my bra too much :)"


Excuse me,but my english is not so good,do you mean that that thing=
 which is in the bra,is not of the size  to hold up the weight of the=
 LX if you have it in the shirt pocket?

I look forward to your answer with interest.

Yours Sincerely

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Subject:      "Code page mismatch" error in xtce

can anyone tell me what the above error message means?  I get it when i'm
trying to copy a file from one location to another (even on the same disk)
in xtce.  i'm using msdos6.2 on a jornada680.

also, while we're on the topic, i think that ian has been able to get
flight sim 4.0 running.  i've only been able to get 3.0 to work.  any
advice for 4.0?

any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,

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>The research is done in many countries US$ buys more labor hours than in
US - hackers get to work, crackers get caught and go to prison, the
companies make the system "secure" and since the real Moollah / Flooz /
Money may be made in the US mass market
>Ipso Facto: the US$ is still (WILL REMAIN) the world currency
>Bye bye Euro <g> ?
>INTERNATIONAL FINANCE - shameless plug <g>

I don't fully understand the grammatic of the first sentence.
There is one more point, why in the US the technical standards are not
always the same:
In England they used not km but miles. Not kg but lbs. Not celsius but
fahrenheit.
Not meter but feed. Why? They didn't care about the others, because they
were the
world leader. Now the US leads the world and the effect to 'standards' could
be the same.
It's ok to smile about.

(Hey, we need no Euro in Switzerland, and Norway, I think, doesn't too).

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>Most ISDN I see sold in the US is 64K. I have no idea when
>you got the 56K number, but it is wrong.

I asked:

> How far can you be with 64kbps?

David Sargeant answered:

"they told me the limit for ISDN at all is something like 5 kilometers, and
also
there's sometimes problems with equipment in the line between the
telephone company and the end user's location."

It was written in a technical magazine about the question,
why the 56Kflex and V90 standard are 56kbps and not
64kbps. They wrote that the secure ISDN standard in USA
is 56kbps and that this seems to be a standard there. Of
course, V90 makes not more than about 42kbps in real life.

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:40:22 +1000
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: MICQ webpage?

Buzz - writes:
> I'm still trying to locate the website for the DOS version of ICQ.
> (MICQ?)
>
> I came across something called TrueICQ when doing a search for "MICQ".
> Details are sketchy on the site as to the requirements for the
> software.  Is this what I'm looking for?  Thus far the webpage author
> has not returned my email.

I dont know what TrueICQ is. I found MICQ by searching for it on YAHOO.
I dont have all the docs on me at the moment so Icant give you the URL,
but if you still have hassles I can find it for you.

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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: forward:Trading HP100LX for Palm III

J.A. Vart writes:
> Good thing I REchecked the time zone in the "Date" field
> I thought it was Area 51 in "Dallas, Texas, USA"
> ----Original Message-----
> >From: Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
> >Date: Friday, November 26, 1999 00:41
> >> Subject:Trading HP100LX for Palm III
> >> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 23:49:18 +0200
> >> From: "Amit Dunsky" <adunsky@yahoo.com>
> >> Would like to trade a barnd new 100LX (just been replaced by HP's warranty)
> >> 1MB.
> >> email: adunsky@tehnologist.com
> >> Cellular: +972 (51) 364027
> >> Amit.

It's a cellular number in Israel.
And Amit:

Ata ose ta'ut gdola ....
(You are making a big mistake!)


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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:16:47 +0100
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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>also, while we're on the topic, i think that ian has been able to get
>flight sim 4.0 running.  i've only been able to get 3.0 to work.  any
>advice for 4.0?

It ran on my LX. You can see a foto of it on www.goeldi.com/lx

-goe-

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Wed,  1 Dec 1999 14:13:24 -0500 (EST)

REMINDER

Please use the FLUFF: prefix when posting non LX related material, or
when an OnTopic thread turns OffTopic ;-)

FLUFF is OK, just label it as such as a courtesy to those who wish to
filter it out.

THANKS...

*
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I would like to buy

Rolf E. Hartleb
7421 N. Moon Spirit Lane
Tucson, AZ 85718

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Stephan Goeldi wrote:
>Does anybody on the list know what kind of software Lotus Metro is?

I have never used it but do have a short summary of its functions to hand
which is:

Lotus Metro - The memory-resident desktop manager combining 12 accessories
and a powerful macros program. The 12 accessories are:
Appointment Book
Calculator
Clipboard
Editor
Filer
Kaleidoscope?
List Manager
Macros
Notepad
Phone Book
Special Characters
Watch

Sounds like a familiar set of facilities :)

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:35:06 -0500
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              Jim Sanders <jsanders@ERIE.NET>
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Is there a way to load the jeteye IR driver without putting it
in config.sys?  Memory is precious.
Thanks
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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:20:33 -0800
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Just a question for everyone who uses the 200LX with a Digital Camera:

What do you do with the LX exactly?

Philippe

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From: Loic Sautour <loic.sautour@WANADOO.FR>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 12:33 AM
Subject: 200LX and Digital Camera


> I found a pretty nice freeware called photopc
> (http://www.average.org/digicam/) and I successfully control my camera (Agfa
> E Photo 1280) with the 200 LX. Apparently, photopc works with:
>
> Agfa (ePhoto line), Epson PhotoPC, Olympus, Sanyo, Nikon, Sierra Imaging,
> Toshiba (list on http://www.average.org/digicam/cameras.html).
>
> I started to write a user interface with LXBatch.
>
> Since I looked in the archive of this list to see if there was any mention
> of this software and did not find anything, I thought I would write this
> post.
>
> I am new on this list and found it great. I've been using LX for more than 6
> years now and it is my 4th one. Thanks to the people maintaining and
> contributing to this list, I enjoy it a lot.
>
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>

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:24:20 -0500
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Gsm coverage in US+more was:Nokia 7110 and WWW/LX: Success

Hi Martin,

>This is something I have never understood.. Why is it that the US is so
>far "behind" when it comes to digital cellular phonenetwork? I am not
>writing this to make fun of anyone. I am just curios why..

Another reason, from my own personal point of view, is because the US
residential market is very different than the Norwegian residential
market. Residential wired local phone calls have always been nearly
unlimited for a simple flat monthly charge i the US. US residents didn't
even consider paying by the minute for local phone calls until cellular
and digital phones were introduced into the market.

Because of this, it took longer for the US residential market to accept
"per minute" cellular and digital phone charges for local calls.

Huge, long term marketing campaigns preaching the benefits of cellular
and digital phone service were required to break into the US residential
market.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:03:37 -0500
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: acCIS v4.0 access to Compuserve

Hi Avi,

>Compuserve Customer service is NOTORIOUS for giving bad
>information. In the days when I used their alleged
>"services" often, I adopted the policy to do the OPPOSITE
>of what they said to do. Things always workd out fine then.
>Following their lead was 90% disastrous, and 9.9% just
>plain wrong, and 0.1% more or less correct. I don't think I
>exaggerate the percentages much :-)
>
>The worst part is that they give the bum steer with an air
>of confidence, and sometimes even argue with you strongly
>about something they haven't got a clue.
>
>acCIS 4.0 was SPECIFICALLY written for HMI. HMI is the
>current protocol supported by CIS products.

Thanks for your understanding.  Not only did the reps I talked to
proclaim to be experts in those issues, but the welcome recording
Compuserve plays while a customer is on hold actually states that they
routinely record those conversations with tech support reps for training
purposes!

My conclusion from this is that their tech support training program is
then also highly questionable, at best.  It's no wonder that public
sentiment indicates that bad information is routinely given by
Compuserve's tech support reps.

Thanks for the warning.  I'll take what tech support says with a grain of
salt from now on.

For future reference, could you or anyone else recommend a more reliable
point of contact for technical support?

>If you established a Compuserve 2000 account, this will not
>work. This type of account uses yet another protocol which
>is Web-based. It looks much like AOL, and it seems to be
>the AOLising "agent" of Compuserve.

Not a problem.  I ordered and now have Classic Compuserve software
version 2.6 (written specifically for Windows 3.1) that I'll be
installing on my Windows 95 machine to establish my new Compuserve
account.

Thanks again, Avi!

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

BTW, there is actually a good reason why I won't be installing the newest
version of Compuserve access software to establish my new account.  I run
an extremely flexible, but non-standard network that Windows doesn't even
know exists. Due to that, Windows 95 wrongfully reports that my network
card is not functioning, when in fact it's working great. ;-)

Loading internet access software written for Windows 95 or higher causes
Windows 95 to insist upon automatically installing it's own network card
drivers, thus killing my network.

Due to Windows 95's infinite wisdom and insistence about what drivers
should be loaded when, I've been using old AOL access software that was
originally written for Windows 3.1 for quite a few years now. :-)

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 13:46:42 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Fryday wrote:

> Just a question for everyone who uses the 200LX with a Digital Camera:
> What do you do with the LX exactly?

With my old Kodak DC-20 and LXDC, I was able to control the camera, use
the 200LX as a timer to take group photos, view the pictures (not very
well, but you could get a rough estimate of how it turned out), download
pictures to the 200LX for additional storage on the road, etc.  Now I have
a SoundVision MiniCam 3209, which takes CompactFlash cards, so I can view
the JPEG files with LXPIC and copy them to the palmtop to free up space on
the CF card.  If a program was written specifically to control this camera
over its serial connection, like LXDC did with the DC-20, I could do neat
things like change the shutter speed from the palmtop, or even possibly
display live video from the camera (though that would be pretty slow on
the palmtop, of course).

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From:         Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT>
Subject:      FLUFF: Re: 200LX and Digital Cameras ... other questions
Comments: To: Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
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<italic><color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>'m trying Qimage. It seems to be a good solution to save paper.
You can print 4 4x6 in a A4 sheet.


I'm not using my digital camera with the 200 LX (yet) but I bought
the PCMCIA adapter for the Smart Cards my Olympus uses and it
works ok with the 200LX and LXPIC.


Antonio</italic>


On 1 Dec 99, at 9:03, Longden Loo wrote:



<italic><color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param>> I found Win 95 software called "Qimage" on the web ($30 shareware)

> that basically is supposed to let you 1) designate the files to print,

> 2) desginate the layout to use 3) hit the print button, leave and come

> back when the stack of prints are done.  Anyone else use this for

> printing?  Thanks.

>

>

>



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Work + 351 22 9981532 (direct, from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m., local time)
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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 13:46:42 -0800, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> Now I have
> a SoundVision MiniCam 3209, which takes CompactFlash cards, so I can =
view
> the JPEG files with LXPIC and copy them to the palmtop to free up space =
on
> the CF card.

Ditto.

Jeff

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>Lotus Metro - The memory-resident desktop manager combining 12 accessories
>and a powerful macros program. The 12 accessories are:
>Appointment Book
>Calculator
>Clipboard
>Editor
>Filer
>Kaleidoscope?
>List Manager
>Macros
>Notepad
>Phone Book
>Special Characters
>Watch


Wow! And why doesn't it appear anymore anywhere?

-goe-

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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>Just a question for everyone who uses the 200LX with
>a Digital Camera:

>What do you do with the LX exactly?

1) Bore relatives with pictures of the kids
2) Bore strangers with "real graphics" on my palmtop computer
3) Bore my kids with my trip photos emailed to them via the LX while on the
road.

All of the above are actually better done using my Omnibook 800CT, but I'm more
inclined to leave it (and my camera) behind compared to the ever-present LX,
which becomes something like my pocket photo album ... a bit underpowered but
still capable of inflicting pain and suffering on the unsuspecting.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:19:06 +0600
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              David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
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   >I use Zip Chunker 3.0 which splits any file type. I think a browser
   >search will bring it up.
   >Bob

Thanks!  I'll add it to the list of ones to search for!

Regards,

David Ball
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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:19:11 +0600
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              David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
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   >If you have not missed meals because you were busy on your 200LX
   >You have not yet began to FULLY use it <G>

Chortle!  I've missed meals, with my wife yelling "put away that
little computer and come sit down" quite a few times!  And I haven't even
begun to FULLY use my 200LX yet, either.  <grin>

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MIME-version: 1.0

On 1999-12-01 David Sargeant said said:

   >Personally, having seen several Psion 3A screens, I think the 200LX
   >has better contrast, or at least my specific unit.  But that's just
   >my opinion.

Just as a matter of interest, have you or anyone else had a chance to to see
the Psion Revo and how it compares to the 200LX?  That would be an
interesting analysis, methinks.

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   >I recommend you an old unix file utils called "split".
   >there are many 16bit dos port version including gnuish_dos.

I will look into this as well.  Thanks!

Regards,

David Ball
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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> Date:    Wed, 1 Dec 1999 14:34:31 +0100
> From:    Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
> Subject: Re: Backlight in Europe
>
> When you really LX the right way,
> you will be finished, before it's dark.
> Of course, ALL the WinCE users are not finished,
> before it's dark. That's why they NEED a backlight.
> But if you are LXing like a real LXer,
> your work is done waaaaay fast.
>
> So the backlight is not a need, it's a 'nice to have'.
>
Wrong! Real programmers sleep til noon and work 'til dawn. Backlight is
a mandatory. Which is why the 200LX isn't a *real* hacker's machine
:{)#

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

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<<This may be a tricky question to answer for a product that
doesn't exist yet, but...

Are there any plans to allow European companies (e.g. Rundel
Datentechnik) to offer the backlighting option?>>

Nothing is final, but the plan is to have Tom Rundel authorized to do the
backlighting.

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On 1999-11-29 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said:
   >I'm not 100% sure, but I think you can get hjsplit at freebyte.com.
   >Steve

Thanks!  I'll try and look for it there.


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<<And also, any word as to how the beta test of the
backlighting is going would be most welcome. Any serious
problems or shortcomings? Any idea about when beta testing
will be finished?>>

David answered -- REAL SOON NOW.  I am as frustrated as anyone with how slow
the process has taken.  However, the delay has allowed important
improvements of the product.

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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, David Ball wrote:

> Just as a matter of interest, have you or anyone else had a chance to
> to see the Psion Revo and how it compares to the 200LX?  That would be
> an interesting analysis, methinks.

I saw it at Comdex; Hal got a free one.  It's smaller than a 200LX, but
the keyboard has almost no travel at all, and there's no expandability or
serial port (that I could see).  It might have infrared, in which case it
would be a handy little e-mail and maybe web terminal, but it seems it
would be much harder to type on than a 200LX because the keys have almost
no travel -- very tricky to tell if you've hit a key or not.

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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, David Ball wrote:

> Just as a matter of interest, have you or anyone else had a chance to
> to see the Psion Revo and how it compares to the 200LX?  That would be
> an interesting analysis, methinks.

Oh, and I thought the screen was a little less contrasty than the 200LX,
but it wasn't too bad, really.

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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Jon Barrett wrote:

> Wrong! Real programmers sleep til noon and work 'til dawn. Backlight
> is a mandatory. Which is why the 200LX isn't a *real* hacker's machine
> :{)#

Soon, grasshopper... Soon.  <g>

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I recently subscribed to this serviice and am now getting evry single Email
back and forth.
I realize I should have opted for the "digest" (I believe) service.

How do I switch?
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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:55:47 -0800, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> =
wrote:

> PS -  I even have a few HPLX member photos at hand.

Of Nathalie?

Jeff

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<<I don't think the "need for backlight" issue will be resolved until many
of you actually have them and use them for a while.  While some will say
they're great (if only to justify the cost they spent), I expect to hear
some others say it's nice but they don't use it as much as they
expected.>>

I believe I am the only every day user (about a month) of a backlight unit.
(Admittedly as our company will make a profit from the backlight solution, I
am not exactly objective. However, if the backlight product ends up not
being good or useful, our company's reputation will suffer.)

Anyway -- I like my backlit palmtop ... a lot more than I thought I would.
I can't imagine not having it. It's not that I use backlighting that often
-- maybe 15% of the time.  However, when I need it, I need it. It is great.
I find from time to time I am in dim light (and occasionally) no light
situations.  It is great to be able to pull out my palmtop and use it.  As
someone else said, it completes the palmtop's "mission" -- pocket PC
available any time, any place.

I can't wait until we are able to offer it.  In the Palmtop Paper that we
are mailing out this week we say we hope, "First Quarter, 2000".
Realistically, for those who have ordered backlighting on a new palmtop (by
sending us a $500 deposit), at best we will be able to ship by end of
January.  However, beta testing STILL has not started and probably won't for
another 2 weeks. Late January means everything will go OK during beta, we
will be able to get parts, and our techs will be up to speed.
Unfortunately, as we have already seen with the delays, seldom do things all
go right in high tech.

That's the latest scoop.

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http://palmtops.about.com/compute/palmtops/library/weekly/aa112899.htm

Psion and CE only... Perhaps we should send him some notes about the LX
"en-masse"...

What say you people?

Philippe

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Got one, hi hi!!

Philippe

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Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 1:44 PM
Subject: FLUFF: Re: 200LX and Digital Camera


On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:55:47 -0800, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:

> PS -  I even have a few HPLX member photos at hand.

Of Nathalie?

Jeff

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> I like the idea of replacing the serial cable to COM1 by infrared and also
> replacing LPT1 by the lan-connected laser-jet printer.  And then running
> the utility in the background in Windoze95.
> Any programmers looking for a nice little project?
>
> (And while I'm looking for something to point my IR beam at (having given
> up on the TV which is too far away) I'm wondering if I can control my
> daughter's Furby????)
>
I found this:

http://www.veg.nildram.co.uk/furby.exe

...but I don't have a Furby to try it out on. It is a DOS app, with on-screen
instructions and command line parameters that you can list by entering "furby
?".

There seems to be a *lot* of interest on the Web in IR-hacking Furbys. Just
enter "Furby hack infra red" in any search engine, and you'll turn up lots of
other possibilities.

Keep us posted on the results of your investigations!

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I'm puzzled.  We've had numerous women LX users on the list for a long
time, and nobody has said much about it one way or another.  Then Nathalie
joined and suddenly it's like we're in a junior-high locker room again.
How come?  Nathalie, what's your secret?  <g>

(I mean no offense to anybody.  Just curious.)

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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 13:46:07 -0800, "Fryday" <fryday@california.com> =
wrote:

> Got one, hi hi!!

Mail it to me or I'll come arrest you <g>.

Jeff

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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:57:54 -0500, Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM=
> wrote:

> http://www.veg.nildram.co.uk/furby.exe

Mack... download it and get Victoria's Furby!!!

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 21:30:58 +0100
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Comments: To: loic.sautour@WANADOO.FR
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At 00:33 01/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>I found a pretty nice freeware called photopc
>(http://www.average.org/digicam/) and I successfully control my camera (Agfa
>E Photo 1280) with the 200 LX. Apparently, photopc works with:
>
>Agfa (ePhoto line), Epson PhotoPC, Olympus, Sanyo, Nikon, Sierra Imaging,
>Toshiba (list on http://www.average.org/digicam/cameras.html).
>
>I started to write a user interface with LXBatch.

Hello
I think I mentioned this a couple of times on this list: I have written a
Web page
about my experiences connecting my Olympus camera to the HP200.

http://huizen.dds.nl/~kropveld/olympus.html

The short story is that I use PHOTOPC to operate my camera. It works
excellent.
I have published some example codes (4DOS batch) on that page.
The timer batch file I use very often on the field to take long series of
pictures
every somany minutes.

Last summer my Olympus hung up (read my previous technical problems on my
page), and bought a NIKON 700. The other program CAMEDOS refuses to
communicate with Nikon camera's, but PHOTOPC runs OK.

BTW On my Windows98 machine I use photopc also without problems.
I have a download script, a picture erase script, and a timer script
running under 4DOS.



One disadvantage: my HP does display the Nikon 1600x1200 pix JPEGs on my HP
screen,
but it is very slow! ;)

Daniel Kropveld

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Talking about backlight, I'm looking into modifying Daniel's led light by using
a telescopic wireless phone antenna instead of a wire.

Philippe

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From: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Backlight


> I don't think the "need for backlight" issue will be resolved until many
> of you actually have them and use them for a while.  While some will say
> they're great (if only to justify the cost they spent), I expect to hear
> some others say it's nice but they don't use it as much as they
> expected.
>
> cheers... Russ  (who is NOT getting backlight for this 1X 32M unit)
>
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>

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   >> PS -  I even have a few HPLX member photos at hand.
Message-Id: <19991201221816.FETN2272@12.72.155.126>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:18:16 +0000

   >Of Nathalie?

C'mon Jeff!  As if grey pixels would do justice (I know you're familiar
with that word) to a "good looking" French medical student.

- Longden

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              Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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> Last summer my Olympus hung up (read my previous technical problems on my
> page), and bought a NIKON 700. The other program CAMEDOS refuses to
> communicate with Nikon camera's, but PHOTOPC runs OK.

CameDos works ok with my 950. Came for windows no longer works with
Nikons.

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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote:

> I believe I am the only every day user (about a month) of a backlight
> unit. (Admittedly as our company will make a profit from the backlight
> solution, I am not exactly objective. However, if the backlight
> product ends up not being good or useful, our company's reputation
> will suffer.)

You're not the only one... Don't forget the five or six Japanese backlit
palmtop users.  <g> And there's me, too... Finally I can use the palmtop
in my bedroom late at night for some word processing, or in the living
room while watching television in extremely dim light.  I can AT LAST take
notes in a darkened lecture hall.  The other day I did some budget work
while at the movie theater watching "Double Jeopardy."  Without my
backlight I would have been forced to sit through that whole movie, which
I found dreadfully boring, with nothing to do.  For me, the backlight is
definitely a must-have.

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I was just curious to know if HP ever offered those plastic overlay
templates for our palmtop's keyboard. I know they exist for the HP48;
I've got a couple. Can they be had anywhere? Thanks in advance for
everyone's time.

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> I've had the 95, 100 and now a 200Lx.
> The backlight for me is a necessity.
>
> Been  a nightman now for over 20yrs. (:-)

Yes, but all this time you've survived without backlight so do you
really need it or just want it?  :-)

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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Russel Brooks wrote:

> Yes, but all this time you've survived without backlight so do you
> really need it or just want it?  :-)

Believe me, he needs it.  Unless he wants to keep dropping his flashlight
from his mouth onto the palmtop... one of these times the screen is going
to get smashed.

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:54:43 -0500
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> I saw it at Comdex; Hal got a free one.  It's smaller than a 200LX, but
> the keyboard has almost no travel at all, and there's no expandability or
> serial port (that I could see).  It might have infrared, in which case it
> would be a handy little e-mail and maybe web terminal, but it seems it
> would be much harder to type on than a 200LX because the keys have almost
> no travel -- very tricky to tell if you've hit a key or not.

From what I've heard, the Revo has a screen resolution of 480 x 160 pixels
and no backlight. Psion users like its contrast better (the higher-end Psion
models have horrid contrast IMO).

If you're still interested, see http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/revo.htm

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You can get another review, as well as some pix of the unit at
http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/revo-review.html

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> Yes, but all this time you've survived without backlight so do you
> really need it or just want it?  :-)

If you've never used a backlit PDA, I don't think you can really know how
useful they are. I used to own an HP CE unit (it was stolen :( and it was
simply wonderful being able to use my palmtop in all situations and lighting
conditions.

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> Just as a matter of interest, have you or anyone else had a chance to =
to see
> the Psion Revo and how it compares to the 200LX?  That would be an
> interesting analysis, methinks.

Two words: forget it! As far as I can remember from the
cursory glances I gave to the reviews, it's little more than
a cut down Series 5, with the major downer being a smaller
screen (which means that many apps written for the Psion
machines won't work properly on it). It's probably an
excellent PDA, but nothing like a potential 200LX
replacement.

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> >also, while we're on the topic, i think that ian has been able to get
> >flight sim 4.0 running.  i've only been able to get 3.0 to work.  any
> >advice for 4.0?
>
> It ran on my LX. You can see a foto of it on www.goeldi.com/lx

And it ran on my LX as well! And you can read a review of it
at http://games.hplx.net.

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Lars wrote:
> Excuse me,but my english is not so good,do you mean that that thing =
which is in the bra,is not of the size  to hold up the weight of the LX =
if you have it in the shirt pocket?

OK Lars, how old are you? 12? 13?!? Talk about global
stereotypes! Stop setting a bad example for the others!!!
<g>

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Agree, 100% Agree !
He should be fair knowing that the LX technology and community are here
and never vanish !!

Irfan

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http://palmtops.about.com/compute/palmtops/library/weekly/aa112899.htm

        Psion and CE only... Perhaps we should send him some notes about
the LX
        "en-masse"...

        What say you people?

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Hmm, I've been looking at your site, and I've been having a really hard time
finding any reference to the venerable but still very technologically apt
HP200LX (or its little brother the HP100LX). As full DOS-compatible XT machine
loaded with extremely well designed applications as well as Lotus 1-2-3, the
200LX deserves a second look even today in the world of Windows CE and
Palmpilot. Join us on the HPLX (http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml)
mailing list and let us throw some good discussion around regarding the world of
computers in the palm of your hand.

Thanks,

Philippe Lewis
Software Engineer
Siebel Systems Inc.
Proud owner of the HP200LX, which he often refers to as "the other half of my
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That was sent to the guy in About.Com...

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> Hmm, I've been looking at your site, and I've been having a really hard time
> finding any reference to the venerable but still very technologically apt
> HP200LX (or its little brother the HP100LX). As full DOS-compatible XT machine
...

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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:51:24 -0600 Hal Goldstein
<hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> writes:
> Realistically, for those who have ordered backlighting on a new
palmtop (by
> sending us a $500 deposit), at best we will be able to ship by end  of

I am confused.  I understood the deposit was $200, and the final cost
would not be much above that.
 Am I way off?

On another vein, how discreet is the backlight?  I have heard the reports
about the brightness, and
I am reminded of the Sharp Zaurus I have seen in dark halls.   The light
seemed discreet (it looked
 like indiglo).  I don't know how sharp was the screen, all I know is
that the fellow was having fun, and
I had to listen to the whole event, palmtop in pocket.  8=(

Domingo

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Rolf wrote:

> I would like to buy
>
> Rolf E. Hartleb
> 7421 N. Moon Spirit Lane
> Tucson, AZ 85718

I think he is not available for sale, the law of the
land... :) ...

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Lars wrote:

> I have tried to install two WWW/LX 1.1 in the application manager so
>  I can have two emailadresses,but get the message that it is already
>  installed when doing the second,even if I don't use neither the same
>  Icon nor the same drive.
>
> Or perhaps there is another way to have multi-emailadresses?

I really do not recall. We have not supported this version
since April 1998. Sorry. It seems there would be another
way to do it, by adding a mail folder in Reader, but I
really do not recall if it was possible, or how. Sorry.

  Avi M. D&A
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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:22:50 -0500
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> Just a question for everyone who uses the 200LX with a Digital Camera:
> What do you do with the LX exactly?
> Philippe

The only use I've found is to automatically take pictures, hands off.
While my Olympus can take 1 picture with its built in delay, I can
program the LX to make the camera keep taking them one after the other
as fast as the camera can recover.  Any pc could do this but the LX's
small size makes it convient and portable.

The only problem is that I have no need for this feature!  :-)

cheers... Russ

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> Lars wrote:
> > Excuse me,but my english is not so good,do you mean that that thing
> which is in the bra,is not of the size  to hold up the weight of the LX
> if you have it in the shirt pocket?
>
> OK Lars, how old are you? 12? 13?!?

Optimist! :-) ...

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> Actually, encryption takes a lot of integer/boolean math.
> Not floating point math.  The instruction set in the Intel
> chip is probably richer than any in a CE device, but the
> 80186 is 16 bit and clocked at a much lower rate.  A client
> for the LX would probably be big (a memory hog) and slow.

How does 16-bit enter into this at all?

Puzzled in SoCal :)

  Avi

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 21:47:29 -0600
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Hello HPLX compatriots

  Just thought I'd let everyone know, I bought one of Scott Moore's 20
  Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II and it arrived yesterday. It is
  marked *IGT International Game Technology 20MB* and is about half
  again as thick as the Simple Technology 16MB card I was using. It
  slid in my 200LX effortlessly and I didn't realize it was as thick
  as it was until I took it out and looked at it again. It was
  packaged in a single layer of bubble-wrap which went completely
  around the card and was taped closed. This was wrapped in a sheet of
  regular bond paper and was stuffed into a small manila envelop along
  with a thank-you from Scott. It appears to have suffered no damage
  in transit and immediately existed when FILER was started. I have
  done a back-up to it and erased same with no apparent ill effects.

  Bottom line - no complaints.


Jack LaRosa          mailto:jlarosa@bellsouth.net
Using DS/DM HP200LX
Alabama, USA

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hi Avi, your right, but the machine is ;-)

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Subject:      Windows LX Printer Server

Somebody once wrote:
> I like the idea of replacing the serial cable to COM1 by infrared and also
> replacing LPT1 by the lan-connected laser-jet printer.  And then running
> the utility in the background in Windoze95.
> Any programmers looking for a nice little project?

This sounds like something that I have "thought" about for quite a while, and
might possibly start work on (once I get some other porjects out of the way).

Anybody else see a use for this type of Windoze app?


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davidb@cimatron.co.il
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A Meshar writes:
> > Actually, encryption takes a lot of integer/boolean math.
> > Not floating point math.
>
> How does 16-bit enter into this at all?

Say you want to add 2 32 bit numbers together. On a 32 bit machine you just
ADD.

On a 16 bit machine you
ADD Lower words
Save Carry
ADD Higher words with carry.

This procedure takes more than twice as long. So for number crunching, a 10Mhz
32 byte machine could work faster than a 20Mhz 16 byte machine if the code
was compiled efficiently.

(This is of course a VERY general description)


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Rolf,

> hi Avi, your right, but the machine is ;-)

Good luck on the sale.

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hi all,
I found someone who is salink a 2000 Newton Keyboard.
Is this model is compatible with the 200LX ?
regards
alain
Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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Stephan Goeldi asked, about Metro: "Wow! And why doesn't it
appear anymore anywhere?"

Probably because of lack of Y2K compliance. Yet, you're
using HP's hack of Metro whenever you use System Manager on
the Palmtop.
.ed.PTP

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I was hiking last week end and I've seen a beautifull sunset but the memory
of my digital camera was full (4 meg). I had to erase pictures of my hike
which did not make me feel happy (it took me more than 4 hours to climb that
hill). I felt stupid with an empty 20 Meg flash disk from Scott in my LX (in
my pocket), and a full 4 meg digital camera card. I then decided to look at
some software to be able to at least backup some picture in the LX... and I
can take a longer hike now...... (Well, this might require backlight then
;-)

BTW, the 20 Meg flash disk I got from Scott is working very well since I
bought it (couple months ago). It was correctly packed and the e-mail
exchange with Scott was quick and enjoyable. Bottom line : no complaints,
happy customer.



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> Fryday
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 12:21
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: 200LX and Digital Camera
>
>
> Just a question for everyone who uses the 200LX with a Digital Camera:
>
> What do you do with the LX exactly?
>
> Philippe
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Loic Sautour <loic.sautour@WANADOO.FR>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 12:33 AM
> Subject: 200LX and Digital Camera
>
>
> > I found a pretty nice freeware called photopc
> > (http://www.average.org/digicam/) and I successfully control my
> camera (Agfa
> > E Photo 1280) with the 200 LX. Apparently, photopc works with:
> >
> > Agfa (ePhoto line), Epson PhotoPC, Olympus, Sanyo, Nikon,
> Sierra Imaging,
> > Toshiba (list on http://www.average.org/digicam/cameras.html).
> >
> > I started to write a user interface with LXBatch.
> >
> > Since I looked in the archive of this list to see if there was
> any mention
> > of this software and did not find anything, I thought I would write this
> > post.
> >
> > I am new on this list and found it great. I've been using LX
> for more than 6
> > years now and it is my 4th one. Thanks to the people maintaining and
> > contributing to this list, I enjoy it a lot.
> >
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In the past I've used Kermit to do this.  You just tell it to save the file to the printer, not a file.  Runs on anything Kermit runs on, prints to any printer that your host o/s supports.   I've only done it with plain ASCII.  I'd be a bit wary of trying to print remotely except using a protocol, you need bidirectional communication to at least XOFF level.   How one might provide a print redirector on the LX that intercepted printing from built-in apps is another matter....  Once I did it from a VAX and just defined 'print' to be 'kermit send'.

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I take it that the PC card interface could not support a co-processor, and no-one makes such a gadget where you could offload processing...

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Hi!

Is there somewhere the sourcecode of utilities like palrun or cgagraph=2E I would
like to know, how they work=2E How can CGA-Int-Calls be converted to VGA - for
example?!?

If they re-do the graphics, would it be possible to write some kind of "Graphics
emulator", which runs as a Win32 Gui app? Can such processes communicate?

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Mike wrote:

"OK Lars, how old are you? 12? 13?!? Talk about global
stereotypes!Stop setting a bad example for the others!!<g>"


Belive me!My interest was only to try to improve the bra-ergonomics=
 of the LX:-)

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Does anyone out there have a Newton Keyboard they want to sell?  I =
believe Shier used to sell one with the proper cable and driver, and =
that is what I'm interested in.  Thanks.

Tony Tenorio

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Hi!

Is there a "dcgames" or "kyle's quest" like interpreter for such tile oriented
adventure games for the HPLX? I would like to play these kind of game while my
wife is looking tv   ;-)=2E=20=


I'm searching for a more story orientated, but even graphicle adventure game=2E I
had a look at these interactive fiction (text only) games, but found it too much
to write on the small keyboard=2E

Games like Rogue or Zangband I found too hack and slay oriented=2E

Any suggestions?

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              "Eng. & Industrial Projects" <danaan@OPERA.IINET.NET.AU>
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>> the Psion Revo and how it compares to the 200LX?
>> That would be an interesting analysis, methinks.

>Two words: forget it! As far as I can remember from the
>cursory glances I gave to the reviews, it's little more than
>a cut down Series 5, with the major downer being a smaller

Another major downer is a re-chargeable battery pack
that has to go back to the factory to be replaced!!

Regards.....Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia

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> Just a question for everyone who uses the 200LX with a Digital Camera:
> What do you do with the LX exactly?
> Philippe

I have a Canon Powershot 350 takes 640x320 VGA type shots,
use it for work extensively.  The software that came with it to
download onto a computer is 5Mb!

The compact flash in the camera can also be inserted into
my HP200 via a CF/PCMIA adaptor.  The HP200 reads the
files as JPGs, with my HP serial lead and the skinny tranfile
program that fits on a floppy disk I can download the pictures
easily to any PC.

I certainly do not use the HP to display the pictures 8-) the
camera does that well enough.

Regards......Liam
Western Australia

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A Meshar wrote:


"I really do not recall. We have not supported this version
since April 1998. Sorry. It seems there would be another
way to do it, by adding a mail folder in Reader, but I
really do not recall if it was possible, or how. Sorry."

I forgot to mention that it was multi emailadresses with the same ISP,that=
 is the same password,phonenumber etc

Anyhow,I guess with the Plus version it is,like you americans say:a=
 piece of cake?

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Date:         Wed, 1 Dec 1999 21:02:39 -0500
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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How about a miners cap!?

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, November 29, 1999 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: Backlight


>BTW, I currently carry a mini flashlight as well. To use it in the dark,
>I have to hold it in my teeth. Yuck!

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ANy info on the "dongle"? I have an Ericsson SH788 (AT&T)..

Thanks,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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Date: Monday, November 29, 1999 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Palm V and HP200LX


>So therefore if you want to use irda:
>
>Siemens S25
>Nokia 7110, 8210, 8850 (8810)
>Ericsson Sh888, T28 with irda dongle, R320 +some more Ericcsons with the
>dongle

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Why not same resolution, but bigger pixels in a bigger
size display?

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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Date: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 5:25 AM
Subject: Re: Backlight in Europe


>Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE> wrote:
>
>> If it had been a bigger screen I would have understood it.There is a
>>  frame around the present screen of the HP which is about 1cm thick,this
>>  could be replaced with a much thinner one and the screen with a bigger
>>  LCD display,that is a bigger screen within  the present the size of
>>  the HP.I guess this would be possible to carry out quite easily?
>
>Let's think this out _all the way_... :)


>There are no manufacturers
>that will make a 800 x 260 - at the pixel size used on the
>Palmtop. This is an odd size in two ways: Extra fine pixle
>size (I think something like 0.18 inch or whatever it
>is...) and adding the odd size will mean no one will touch
>the manufacturing of these  screens.

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Yes pleeeease, I have been this for a long time.......


>From: David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
>Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Windows LX Printer Server
>Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 06:20:36 +1000
>
>Somebody once wrote:
> > I like the idea of replacing the serial cable to COM1 by infrared and
>also
> > replacing LPT1 by the lan-connected laser-jet printer.  And then running
> > the utility in the background in Windoze95.
> > Any programmers looking for a nice little project?
>
>This sounds like something that I have "thought" about for quite a while,
>and
>might possibly start work on (once I get some other porjects out of the
>way).
>
>Anybody else see a use for this type of Windoze app?
>
>
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>you're
>using HP's hack of Metro whenever you use System Manager on
>the Palmtop.
>.ed.PTP


Some time ago list members discussed about rewriting the
HPLX software. The discussion ended, because it was not possible
to get the source code and because of spaghetti code etc.

So why not have a look at Lotus Metro?

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>If you've never used a backlit PDA, I don't think you can really know how
>useful they are. I used to own an HP CE unit (it was stolen :( and it was
>simply wonderful being able to use my palmtop in all situations and
lighting
>conditions.

Before the Siemens S25 I had a Nokia 2110 which had backlight.
Because of the poor batteries I disabled the backlight. The last year
it was about 1 or 2 times necessary to turn on the backlight. 1 or 2 times
in a year is too less for this amount of money. When you are in the
situation
that you really NEED a backlight, it is your special situation but not a
general
need. I can compare this with other things too: I don't have a watch on my
arm,
because it never happens, that I have to check the time without any watch
in the near. This is perhaps, because in Switzerland you never find an area
where more than 500 meters plain land without any buildings, lamps and
watches exist anymore. Except in the mountains. And there I don't want to
LX.

--- As an LXer I suck all the lightsources around me and my LX ---

(saves batteries)

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Hi, PAL developers!


I can read the following in pal/docs/guidlins=2Etxt:


Include files
-------------

Never put anything that generates code into an include file=2E
Why: you will get a multiple definition error (or other weird
behavior) when trying to link together two OBJs compiled from
two =2EC sources that used this same include file=2E System include
files are by convention put into angular brackets (e=2Eg=2E #include
<stdio=2Eh>), while the others are put into quotes (e=2Eg=2E #include
"pal=2Eh")=2E Please also see the section on PAL=2EH, PALPRIV=2EH and
the include directory in the STRUCTUR=2ETXT file=2E


But in paldlg=2Eh I can read the following:

/* --------------------------------------------------------------------
Dialog and Item structures
-------------------------------------------------------------------- */
/* Define the item descriptor */
typedef struct SDLGITEM {
int  PosX;        /* relative horz position of item in dialog        */
int  PosY;        /* relative vert position of item in dialog        */
int  Width;       /* width of item=2E Interpretation varies            */
int  Depth;       /* depth of item=2E Interpretation varies            */
long Flags;       /* various item style and status bits              */
char *Text;       /* associated label or text string                 */
void *Init;       /* pointer to initialization data if any           */
ITEMPROC ItmProc; /* pointer to function that handles item           */
int  Size;        /* size of private data - required for subclassing */
void *Data;       /* pointer to private data managed by item         */
} DLGITEM;


In my opinion this means the declaration of struct SDLGITEM and then the=20=
definition of DLGITEM=2E Am I right? You could write the same thing as follows:

typedef struct SDLGITEM {
int  PosX;        /* relative horz position of item in dialog        */
int  PosY;        /* relative vert position of item in dialog        */
int  Width;       /* width of item=2E Interpretation varies            */
int  Depth;       /* depth of item=2E Interpretation varies            */
long Flags;       /* various item style and status bits              */
char *Text;       /* associated label or text string                 */
void *Init;       /* pointer to initialization data if any           */
ITEMPROC ItmProc; /* pointer to function that handles item           */
int  Size;        /* size of private data - required for subclassing */
void *Data;       /* pointer to private data managed by item         */
};
struct SDLGITEM DLGITEM;

So this __IS__ a declaration, which should produce code=2E Or am I wrong?


This is, what my compiler (HP-UX 10=2E20, gcc) says:

gcc -O2 -DUSE_UNIX -DUSE_X11  -c -opm=2Eo -I=2E=2E/=2E=2E/src/inc pm=2Ec
In file included from =2E=2E/=2E=2E/src/inc/pal=2Eh:578,
from pm=2Ec:61:
=2E=2E/=2E=2E/src/inc/paldlg=2Eh:78: warning: `struct SDLGITEM' declared inside p=
arameter
list
=2E=2E/=2E=2E/src/inc/paldlg=2Eh:74: warning: its scope is only this definition o=
r
declaration,
=2E=2E/=2E=2E/src/inc/paldlg=2Eh:74: warning: which is probably not what you want=2E



I have to say, that I'm relativly new to C programming=2E As an exercise I try=20=
to port PAL to UNIX/LINUX/X11 for eventual later use in the ELKS project=2E

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It has a serial port but it's only accessible via the docking device. Also,
modems can be used via the IR port.

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>From: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject: Re: Comparison of 200LX to Psion Revo
>Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 14:19:18 -0800
>

> On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, David Ball wrote:
>
>> Just as a matter of interest, have you or anyone else had a chance to
>> to see the Psion Revo and how it compares to the 200LX?  That would be
>> an interesting analysis, methinks.
>
> I saw it at Comdex; Hal got a free one.  It's smaller than a 200LX, but
> the keyboard has almost no travel at all, and there's no expandability or
> serial port (that I could see).  It might have infrared, in which case it
> would be a handy little e-mail and maybe web terminal, but it seems it
> would be much harder to type on than a 200LX because the keys have almost
> no travel -- very tricky to tell if you've hit a key or not.
>
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To convert .GDB to .ADB, I'd suggest looking at LXBatch. It has loop
counters and a keystuffer built in. The big question is: do you do a
field-by-field transfer or do you try copying a whole GDB record to the Note
field in Appt. and then cutting and pasting into the field from there.
Either way it's bound to be messy.

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> You can get another review, as well as some pix of the unit at
> http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/revo-review.html
>
Never mind the Revo, it's just a high-end organizer that's less capable than a
Psion 5.

What *I* want to know more about is their Infrared 56K Travel Modem and Infrared
Printer Pod. Anybody have any idea whether these can be made to work with the
200LX? See:

< http://www.psion.com/revo/peripherals/index.html >

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Stephan Goeldi asked why not look at Metro for a rewrite of the System
Manager apps.

Where, pray tell, will you find a copy of the source code for Metro. It's
hard enough to find the program itself. If you ask the people at IBM/Lotus,
they'd probably be hard put to find anything let alone be willing to give it
away. I haven't seen any source code for the early programs, e.g., you can
get a copy of Visicalc 1.1 but not the source code.
.ed.

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Martin Doering asked about the struct definition and declaration in the PAL
library.

The use of typedef struct does not generate code in the same way that a
definition of a function does.  I like to think of this in the following
way: a struct definition just tells the computer "here is what I mean by the
word 'SDLGITEM'.It's a set of smaller blocks of switches."

The declaration tells the computer "set aside this particular block of
switches using the format as given by the SDLGITEM definition but call the
block "LGITEM".

A function definition does pretty much the same thing, but it tells the
computer "this block of switches is code, i.e., it can perform some
operations and pass a result.

.ed.

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It should be noted that Buddy only runs on US-English palmtops.

Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:

>>I believe this is a feature addressed by a shareware utility called Buddy (on
>>the SUPER site).  Buddy remaps the function keys and requires you to press the
>>key twice to clear the note.  Buddy may be overkill for your purposes, since
it
>>remaps and alters MANY LX features, usually for the better, but a drastic
change
>>nonetheless, especially to the novice (and technoyado-wannabees).

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> Just a question for everyone who uses the 200LX with a Digital Camera:
> What do you do with the LX exactly?
> Philippe

Since CF Cards can be a little expensive, I've had to do field-expedient
file moves to free up space on the card, so I have more "digital film".

Basically our (office) Nikon uses CF cards as film, sometimes I run out of
space and can move about 40 MB of files to my LX and take more photos!

The JPEGS I shoot are at 1600x1200 and take up 350-500 KB each(!). The
camera has a color LCD screen for browsing the photos; so I don't have to
try using the LX to preview the files the camera does a terrible job w/
spreadsheets; so I don't ask it to work outside its realm <G>.

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> Did you read my email about loose IR modems?

Yes, I read it.

But - I cannot imagine why it should be a solution. If this is no
phone, just a modem with IrDA port and GSM antenna, it would interfere,
too. It's as a phone, but without microphone and speaker.

Or did I miss something?

GTX
daniel

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Hi Martin

> Both the S25 and the 7110 are dualband gsm phones. They work on the 900
> and 1800 net. Daniel have you tried the interference problem when you
> are certain that you are logged on to a 1800 link?

Yes. I only get 1800MHz links.

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

which color has the backlight?

GTX
daniel

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Hi Philippe,

> Talking about backlight, I'm looking into modifying Daniel's led light by using
> a telescopic wireless phone antenna instead of a wire.

Oh, do you still want to try that?
When will you do it? 8-)

GTX
daniel

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Hi Martin,

I'm no PAL developer and no expert, so please read my post
skeptically.

> typedef struct SDLGITEM {
> int  PosX;        /* relative horz position of item in dialog        */
> int  PosY;        /* relative vert position of item in dialog        */
> /* (snip) */
> } DLGITEM;    <<----------------------------------------- (1)
>
> In my opinion this means the declaration of struct SDLGITEM

correct.

> and then the definition of DLGITEM. Am I right? You could

Nota bene. DLGITEM is now a type, not a variable. No allocation
of memory yet. I.e. The above defined a tructure SDLGITEM and
a type DLGITEM. A legal use of them will now be:

        struct SDLGITEM a;  <<------------------------------ (2)
and
        DLGITEM b;  <<-------------------------------------- (3)

Both declarations now allocate memory. (i.e. 5 integers, one long, ...)
You can then do things like:

        a.PosX = 5;
        b.PosX = a.PosX;
        printf("%d\n", b.PosX);

and so on in your *.c files that include this header file.
"a" and "b" can now be used in the equivalent fashion.

> write the same thing as follows:
>
> typedef struct SDLGITEM {
> int  PosX;        /* relative horz position of item in dialog        */
> int  PosY;        /* relative vert position of item in dialog        */
> /* (snip) */
> };

This is ok. You've just defined a structure with the name SDLGITEM
without defining a type in the same time.

> struct SDLGITEM DLGITEM;
> So this __IS__ a declaration, which should produce code. Or am I wrong?

Yes. You're right. It declares a *variable* with the name DLGITEM to
be a struture SDLGITEM and allocates 5 integers, ... for the variable
DLGITEM.  You can now do e.g. DLGITEM.PosX = 5; *But* only if the first
typedef (1) is commented out, so that the name "DLGITEM" is not reused.

But this may not be the intention of the original header file.
Because it is *unusual* to declare a variable (DLGITEM) in a header
file. A header file is intended to be included to many files. A header
file usually defines structures or types, but seldom declares a variable
(with memory allocation). And your __IS__ may be the main reason for the
warnings that this may be not what you want.

In other words, the purpose of defining a type DLGITEM and a structure
SDLGITEM of the first typedef (1) in the original header file is to
facilitate free choises of (2) and (3) in your C codes in *.c files
that include this header file.

> This is, what my compiler (HP-UX 10.20, gcc) says:
>
> gcc -O2 -DUSE_UNIX -DUSE_X11  -c -opm.o -I../../src/inc pm.c

I suggest additional options -ansi -pedantic -fbounds-checking
if the bounds-checking package is included in your gcc.
Bounds-checking has saved me a tremendous amount of time and
-ansi -pedantic is useful if one is not sure if non-standard things
were used in the codes but would like to make the codes portable.

hope this help
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o. Each Macro has a 256 character limit;
o. Creating Macros That Execute Other Macros: Page 23-3
Your only limit is the amount of RAM disk
(Make sure there is enough disk space for your newly created file)
PS: do not forget your "stop" bit (do not overrun a Macro)
which in this case *.gdb to *.adb is easy you look up the nmber of records
o. Make sure you are running with AC Adapter,
since the "auto power off" might corrupt the data <wink>
----Original Message-----
>From: Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
>Date: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 06:58
>>I've finally decided to switch my palmtop journal
>>from the Database application to the Appointment Book's
>>Todo app.  Is there any way of moving my existing data
>>over directly to Todo format, or is there at least
>>a way to set up a macro to copy and paste all the
>>information from one to the other?
>
>Not simple, tho you can try experimenting with gdbdump/adbload combinations.
>Problem is that the formats may differ slightly and require added programatic
>tweaking, resulting in more time than a manual effort (tho that's no excuse if
>you're a programmer).
>
>If you go this route, I'd suggest working out the (related) details for going
>the other way in case you change your mind later about using Todo.
>
>>Each database record is keyed on the Date field, so perhaps
>>it could copy that, go into Todo, go to that date, and then
>>copy the note field over to an entry on that date.  Can this
>>be set up to cycle through all the database records by itself,
>>or would I have to press the Fn-F10 key (assuming I assign
>>the macro to that key, of course) a full 830 times
>>to get all 830 records?
>
>I haven't tried a lot of macro-chaining, tho I know it's possible.  Maybe one
>macro can end by referring to another macro, which when done, refers back to the
>first ... and loop that way?
>
>Another thing to try would be keystroke emulation programs, and just build a
>script with 830 iterations of the same sequence.
>
>I haven't tried any of the above, so can't recommend anything more specific
>other than BACKUP your files first (tho I know I'm preaching to the choir here
>- Longden

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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, D Dv wrote:

> I am confused.  I understood the deposit was $200, and the final cost
> would not be much above that.
>  Am I way off?

He's talking about a deposit for a backlight AND a new palmtop.  So your
backlit device would be a brand new machine.

> On another vein, how discreet is the backlight?  I have heard the
> reports about the brightness, and I am reminded of the Sharp Zaurus I
> have seen in dark halls.  The light seemed discreet (it looked like
> indiglo).  I don't know how sharp was the screen, all I know is that
> the fellow was having fun, and I had to listen to the whole event,
> palmtop in pocket.  8=(

It's indiglo-like.  Similar to the other blue-green backlit devices.

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On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> which color has the backlight?

The current model is blue, almost blue-green, but we're considering going
blue-green.  Other colors, like amber and white, may also be used, but
they use more power.

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Hi Laurence,

> which is:
>
> Lotus Metro - The memory-resident desktop manager combining 12 accessories
> and a powerful macros program. The 12 accessories are:
> Appointment Book
> Calculator
> Clipboard
> Editor
> Filer
> Kaleidoscope?
> List Manager
> Macros
> Notepad
> Phone Book
> Special Characters
> Watch

Well, I know Lotus Metro only from what is on the Agenda disks.
The only accessory available there (so it seems to me) is
Clipboard, Kaleidoscope, and the item editor for entering Agenda
items.

cheers,
Reinhard


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As soon as I get a chance to get the antenna and fiddle with it a bit. The idea
is to get an antenna that has a rotating elbow, remove a few of the thinnest
pieces to make space for a wire in the middle (the other "wire" being the
antenna itself) and connect/glue the whole thing.

I'll keep you posted,

Philippe

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> Hi Philippe,
>
> > Talking about backlight, I'm looking into modifying Daniel's led light by
using
> > a telescopic wireless phone antenna instead of a wire.
>
> Oh, do you still want to try that?
> When will you do it? 8-)
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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>
>
>

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Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@pobox.com> wrote:

> I've had the 95, 100 and now a 200Lx.
> The backlight for me is a necessity.
>
> Been  a nightman now for over 20yrs. (:-)

Yes, but all this time you've survived without backlight so do you
really need it or just want it?  :-)

cheers... Russ


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Let me see!

"All this time I've survived without backlight so do I really need it or just
want it?"


YES! Plus it not so much of my survival that I'm worried about.


Like David said, its only a matter of time before the palmtop will suffer
damage by the hands of her buddy "Mini Flashlight".

BTW: They've really never gotten along any how and things have gotten worse
since the hint/talk of backlighting.  (:-)

My first Mini Flashlight (StreamLight) of almost 20yrs ran away, we all went
to work one night and Mini failed to come home. I haven't seen her since.
As a matter of fact I posted a $20.00 reward.

After about a month or so I bought a new one (Radio Shack brand). Now thats
when the problems started. For no reason the flashlight would jump out of
my mouth onto the palmtop. HEY!

BTW: This is a true story, no joke!


Its like this, you can wreck the car and thats fine. But harm that palmtop and
there be hell to pay.

One other thing the palmtop and wife don't get along either.
Just the other day...


Later



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On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:00:11 -0800, "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NE=
T> wrote:

> Yes, but all this time you've survived without backlight so do you
> really need it or just want it?  :-)

I don't NEED it but I WANT it... ever try to play Freecell in a cop car =
in
the dark.... <g>?

Jeff

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Thanks for everyone who has answered my question!

As always, this list is wonderful for the clueless person like me ;-)

Philippe

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> > Just a question for everyone who uses the 200LX with a Digital Camera:
> > What do you do with the LX exactly?
> > Philippe
>
> The only use I've found is to automatically take pictures, hands off.
> While my Olympus can take 1 picture with its built in delay, I can
> program the LX to make the camera keep taking them one after the other
> as fast as the camera can recover.  Any pc could do this but the LX's
> small size makes it convient and portable.
>
> The only problem is that I have no need for this feature!  :-)
>
> cheers... Russ
>
>

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Have you seen the size of the batteries these people are carrying?

Ulrich Boche

Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> wrote:

>>How about a miners cap!?

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On 12-02 05:13pm, you wrote

> It should be noted that Buddy only runs on US-English palmtops.

It runs on my german lx, too. Not all features work, but the in my
opinion most valuable feature does: smartcaps. I could not live
without it.

Cheers,
Reinhard


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Please is some one can tell me if
the keyboard from the Newton 2000 is the one
we can used for the LX?
Thanx
regards
alain

Al
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On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Reinhard Mueller wrote:

> It runs on my german lx, too. Not all features work, but the in my
> opinion most valuable feature does: smartcaps. I could not live
> without it.

I agree.  In fact, what I'd like to see is a standalone SmartCaps TSR.
Buddy is nicw, but we could save lots of memory with only SmartCaps.

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It is my understanding that WAP is a filtered/reduced function
form of HTML, designed for devices with non-standard screens.
Further, Doesn't WAP have to be accessed through a gateway
machine? All of this is unneccessary IF you can run full HTML
on your device...

The win for such a solution *might* be if secure transactions can
be conducted through a WAP gateway.

WAP is very reduced functionally...

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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Date: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 5:34 AM
Subject: 200LX WAP?


>Hi all,
>
>Anybody working on a WAP browser for the 200LX? Or is it not possible for
>some or other reason? It would be a nice idea with an 'old' generation cell
>phone.

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WinCE can run on a Pentium (as of most recent release, IIRC).

I think all the other, RISC CPUs usually used with WinCE are
more robust (instruction wise) and quicker (8 - 10x clock speed).

But what they have all those cycles doing... well, thats a different
topic...

Ken
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Date: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Secure HTTP anyone?


>On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Ed Padin wrote:
>> It all makes sense if you think about it. At the very least, if we had an
>> FPU, we could do 'fast math' on the LX. Encryption requires many
>> floating-point-operations/second (FLOPS?). I thought that at least the
low
>> bandwidth requirements would overcome the obvious delays imposed by the
lack
>> of fast math abilities in the LX. I know that the CE platforms have an
SSH
>> client available but they also have a much better CPU. It's the OS that
>> sucks.
>
>Actually, encryption takes a lot of integer/boolean math.
>Not floating point math.  The instruction set in the Intel
>chip is probably richer than any in a CE device, but the
>80186 is 16 bit and clocked at a much lower rate.  A client
>for the LX would probably be big (a memory hog) and slow.
>
>Steve
>FWB FL, USA
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It's easy...

a) She's French (exotic, at least to all us non-French LXers)

b) She made a point of poinitng out that she is female

c) Sne's French (see a) ) ;)

HTH,

Ken
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>I'm puzzled.  We've had numerous women LX users on the list for a long
>time, and nobody has said much about it one way or another.  Then Nathalie
>joined and suddenly it's like we're in a junior-high locker room again.
>How come?  Nathalie, what's your secret?  <g>
>
>(I mean no offense to anybody.  Just curious.)
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Al, Steve, and Longden

thank you for pointing me to Buddy
what is the latest version? i have ver 2.1 (unregistered)

> Buddy may be overkill for your purposes

you are quite right there, reading the "readme.1st" file of Buddy reminds me
of the brick of a book HP supplies with the LX

> - Longden (who has probably lost his share of masterpieces)

ohh poor boy, i can't believe it; was that back in 1981? :)

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>I'm puzzled.  We've had numerous women LX users on the list for a long
>time, and nobody has said much about it one way or another.  Then Nathalie
>joined and suddenly it's like we're in a junior-high locker room again.
>How come?  Nathalie, what's your secret?  <g>

i have to live up to my French reputation ;))

and besides, computers are very life-less by themselves

tell me, what is the <g> all about? (as in "OK Lars, how old are you? 12?
13?!? Talk about global stereotypes! Stop setting a bad example for the
others!!! <g>")

my list didn't have it:

 <E2EG>           - Ear to Ear Grin
 <GIWIST>         - Gee I Wish I'd Said That
 <ROFL>           - Rolling On Floor Laughing!
 <ROFFNAR>        - Rolling On Floor For No Apparent Reason
 <ROFLMAO>        - Rolling On Floor Laughing My Ascii Off

Lars is doing just fine; but Longden is doing better with his intelligent
humor, ie:
"still capable of inflicting pain and suffering on the unsuspecting"

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>From:    Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
>
>Please is some one can tell me if
>the keyboard from the Newton 2000 is the one
>we can used for the LX?

I believe there was only one Newton keyboard.  It was used with a special
serial adapter for the Newton 2000.  So, yes, it's the one.

I'm sure any Newtoneers on the list will correct me if I'm wrong-- it has
been a while since I did my Newton keyboard research.  (The keyboards are
great, by the way.)

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Hello,

I was wondering if any one else has had problems with timeouts on
CCLXPOP, version 1.05. Every time I try to download email it starts to
download the first message, then gives me a POP server timeout.  I have
tried three different POP servers and have gotten the same results.  Do I
have something setup wrong?  Or is there something wrong with my ISP?

I have gotten it to send a message OK a couple different times.  I seem to
have the same problem with LXPOP and LXNNTP but I have not tried
them quite as much.  I think my connection is OK because LXTELNET, LXFTP
and LXPING all seem to work great.

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Irfan stated that:
   >I wonder if the newest version of Palmlink has available in S.U.P.E.
   >R sites ?
   >The author has promising in the next version Palmlink will be able
   >to send/receive mail without using eudora.
   >I thought that will be very interesting, increasing 200lx ability in
   >mailing function.

Howdy.  I tried using Palmlink for awhile.  While I'm unaware of a newer
version, I did discover that Palmlink comes with an excellent utility to
convert Eudora mailbox (mbx) mail files into a format easily readable using
the Notetaker program on the 200LX.

On the whole, I think Nettamer is the best solution to reading email
"offline" on the palmtop--that is, not using the palmtop to connect directly
to the Internet, but using it as a platform to read/reply to one's email and
upload the replies at the end of the day through your desktop.
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Curtis Cameron wrote:

   >It's not what you're asking, but I advise to just write the HTML in
   >text, for which Memo would work fine. I write lots of HTML on a PC,
   >and I do it all on a regular text editor. Well, maybe not regular -
   >it's the best text editor I've ever seen by far, highly recommended
   >and available at www.notetab.com

and what's the name of this text editor, pray tell?

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   >Has anyone had any problems using LXDR0.99b?  It crashes my 6meg DS
   >200lx when I start it.
   >I download my mail to my desktop, where I usually respond to all of
   >my messages (eventually).  When I am going to be away for awhile,
   >I'd like to be able to download the messages to the 200lx where I
   >could type out my replies using PE or VDE or Memo or something in
   >my moments of "down-time". Then, I'd like to transfer them back to
   >my desktop to be uploaded to my popserver (and thus keep a copy of

Although I have no experience with LXDR, this is exactly what I do with
Nettamer on the palmtop.  I use Nettamer on my desktop to download my email.
 Nettamer downloads the email into a mail file, which I then transfer to the
LX.  I have just enough files of Nettamer on the LX to allow me to
reas/reply to my email offline during the day.  In the evening when I come
home, I then upload my replies back to my desktop and send them off using my
complete copy of Nettamer on the desktop.  I can thus take advantage of
those small batches of "down-time" dring the day to keep up with my email.
This is the most productive solution for me.

Regards,

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Hal Goldstein stated that...

   >I can't wait until we are able to offer it.  In the Palmtop Paper
   >that we are mailing out this week we say we hope, "First Quarter,
   >2000". Realistically, for those who have ordered backlighting on a
   >new palmtop (by sending us a $500 deposit), at best we will be able
   >to ship by end of January.

I'm hoping that this will be an upgrade option as well.  Indeed, I am
eagerly looking forward to when this is going to be available.  How much
(tentatively) will the backlight upgrade (assuming it's being offered) cost?

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David Sargeant stated that...

   >I can AT LAST take notes in a darkened
   >lecture hall.  The other day I did some budget work while at the
   >movie theater watching "Double Jeopardy."  Without my backlight I
   >would have been forced to sit through that whole movie, which I
   >found dreadfully boring, with nothing to do.  For me, the backlight
   >is definitely a must-have.

Yes, this will definitely make the movie-going experience much less
painless.  Sitting through the "best" Hollywood has to offer knowing that I
could be using my palmtop to accomplish something useful is,as you say,
"dreadfully" boring.

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Hal Goldstein stated that...

   >David answered -- REAL SOON NOW.  I am as frustrated as anyone with
   >how slow the process has taken.  However, the delay has allowed
   >important improvements of the product.
This is a fundamental point.  As anxious as I am for a new backlighting
option, it should be well-designed and implemented.  I am reassured that
you are taking the time to do it right.

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David Sargeant stated that...

   >I saw it at Comdex; Hal got a free one.  It's smaller than a 200LX,
   >but the keyboard has almost no travel at all, and there's no
   >expandability or serial port (that I could see).  It might have
   >infrared, in which case it would be a handy little e-mail and maybe
   >web terminal, but it seems it would be much harder to type on than
   >a 200LX because the keys have almost no travel -- very tricky to
   >tell if you've hit a key or not.

I'm not sure what you mean by "travel" here.  I am surprised at the size of
the unit.  From my reading on the unit, I understand that it does use
infrared to allow one to use the unit with either a portable phone or an
infrared modem.

Of greater concern to me is the lack of established software for the unit.
It seems you're limited to the built-in applications for now.  Still, it
does seem to be a nice email and web terminal, as you say.

Thanks for the information.

Regards,

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Date:         Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:38:01 +0600
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              David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
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Mike stated that:
   >Two words: forget it! As far as I can remember from the
   >cursory glances I gave to the reviews, it's little more than
   >a cut down Series 5, with the major downer being a smaller
   >screen (which means that many apps written for the Psion
   >machines won't work properly on it). It's probably an
   >excellent PDA, but nothing like a potential 200LX
   >replacement.

Well, that was my focus.  Whenever I see a new PDA with a keyboard, I
automatically want to compare it with the 200LX.  I'm reassured by your
statements that this unit is no real sense a replacement for the 200LX.

Regards,

David Ball
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Date:         Thu, 2 Dec 1999 18:37:55 -0500
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> I agree.  In fact, what I'd like to see is a standalone SmartCaps TSR.
> Buddy is nicw, but we could save lots of memory with only SmartCaps.

Registered versions of Buddy allow you to run a smaller footprint Buddy
(Jeffery calls it DOS-lite).

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Date:         Thu, 2 Dec 1999 18:42:49 -0500
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> which color has the backlight?

I can see it now: seasonal backlight colors! Hot pink in the spring, forest
green in the summer, beige in the fall and white in the winter.

And to think all this time we thought having a mono PDA was less fashionable
:)

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Date:         Thu, 2 Dec 1999 18:47:45 -0500
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> tell me, what is the <g> all about? (as in "OK Lars, how old are you? 12?
> 13?!? Talk about global stereotypes! Stop setting a bad example for the
> others!!! <g>")

<g> is an abbreviation for "grin"

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Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:04:55 -0000
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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I did have this problem with GP going through one route to our corporate servers.  I then switched to going via Compuserve (we have a route through there) and it went away.  I'm told that we haev now changed the dial-in servers so it may be OK now.

Basically it was a problem 'with the ISP' - in my case my own company.   The software/hardware in use was not set up to work with anything other than Microsoft stuff.   A common problem is an absolute refusal to negotiate an MTU size below 1500, but I was also having trouble trying to find an acceptable set of quoted characters - it only seemed to work if all characters were quoted.

The symptom I had was that it was chronically slow and always timed out after a few messages.  As I never got to the QUIT command I never cleared messages from the server, so it got quite unusable.  One thing that pointed the finger was that it did not happen when I accessed my own Compuserve account with the same settings.  I'd recommend that you try (perhaps one of the free POP services) another mail server/ISP and see if that is OK.

Don't expect any sympathy from your ISP if you are not using Windows 9x or NT.  Remember that if you have one of the above you don't need a mailer, you can type POP commands in from a terminal - Telnet to port 110.   There are places to get the list of commands - I found a good precis on Compuserve's pages about their POP service.   Not a way to to business, but you can check it is working.  Normally you wil be railroaded into accessing their POP server through their dial-in.  You cannot AFAIK access e.g. Compuserve's POP or SMTP servers from the wider internet.

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Date:         Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:10:06 -0800
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Something is setup wrong. I had that problem and then
realized I hadn't set the password correctly. Since less
problems than I have with a Windows machine.

"Eric C. Thompson" wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I was wondering if any one else has had problems with timeouts on
> CCLXPOP, version 1.05. Every time I try to download email it starts to
> download the first message, then gives me a POP server timeout.  I have
> tried three different POP servers and have gotten the same results.  Do I
> have something setup wrong?  Or is there something wrong with my ISP?
>
> I have gotten it to send a message OK a couple different times.  I seem to
> have the same problem with LXPOP and LXNNTP but I have not tried
> them quite as much.  I think my connection is OK because LXTELNET, LXFTP
> and LXPING all seem to work great.
>
> Thanks,
>  Eric
>
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On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, David Ball wrote:

> I'm not sure what you mean by "travel" here.  I am surprised at the
> size of the unit.  From my reading on the unit, I understand that it
> does use infrared to allow one to use the unit with either a portable
> phone or an infrared modem.

Travel refers to the up-and-down motion of the keys.  On the Revo, the
keys barely depress at all, and there's no real tactile feedback to tell
you if you've actually hit a key.

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Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:20:28 +0000
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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> Has the Psion 3a backlight?
> Is it a color screen?
>
> -goe-

Nope, the the 3a did not have a backlight - the 3c did. It was
(4?) gray-scale mono with 480 x 160 pixels. IIRC the backlight
was introduced in the 3c. Perhaps that's why the 3a's contrast
was better than the 3c's? I had a series 5, but the screen's
contrast was dreadful. Too many layers with backlight and
touch screen. I'm told the 5MX is better. I did look at one,
but it still looked only OK to me.

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If time travel were possible, and I could meet a beta-tester
of the new backlight screen, (which BTW is very near the top
of my "must have" list (the backlighting, not the time travel,
although that could be neat too if it fitted on a PCMCIA (and
<=150mA))), I would ask them:

"Does the backlight buzz when on? Is it VERY noticeable or do
you have to put your ear near the screen to hear it?"

I used to find my PalmPilot's buzzing to be faint and rather
pleasant(!), whereas the Psion Series 5 was more intrusive, and
likely to attract a "<tut> - not again" from the missus.

Another marital question, one for the girls this time: My wife
claims that although she can't see the light from the pocket
torch, she "knows" that I'm reading my HP and not sleeping and
this stops her sleeping. C'mon, this can't be true, can it?

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Date:         Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:11:33 -0800
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On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Matthew Sheffield wrote:

> Registered versions of Buddy allow you to run a smaller footprint
> Buddy (Jeffery calls it DOS-lite).

Yeah, it's BuddyDOS, but that doesn't work for SysMan.  I need the memory
in SysMan more than in DOS apps, ironically.

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Date:         Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:13:54 -0800
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On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Chris Randle wrote:

> "Does the backlight buzz when on? Is it VERY noticeable or do you have
> to put your ear near the screen to hear it?"

The prototypes buzz, but Mack is building a new board that will not buzz
any more than the 200LX normally does (some users have power supplies that
do buzz when charging or when a high-drain PCMCIA card is put in).

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Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:26:55 +1030
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              "Collins, Barry (FORENSIC)" <collins.barry@SAUGOV.SA.GOV.AU>
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Subject:      Backlight and Batteries
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Hi All,

For those of you with long memories, there was a discussion two years ago on
possible ways of increasing the battery life for the HPLX Palmtops.  At that
time I wondered about using the thick, hollow hinge of the palmtop as an
additional battery cradle but was told by someone (I can't find the
reference) that the hinge tube was used to take the web of wires from on
side of the body to the opposite side of the lid.  The implication was that
it would be impractical to re-route the wiring merely to accommodate extra
batteries.

However, with the almost certain advent of backlighting, there will be extra
power demands to sustain it; so the need is greater.  Also, since the
installation of backlighting will mean opening the lid and altering the
wiring configuration anyway, it could reduce the cost of additionally
re-routing the web of wires supplying the lid to make room for extra
batteries.

Unfortunately the diameter of the hinge tube is not large enough to take the
usual A4 cells but it does seem, from an external perspective at least, that
up to three of the thinner A3 cells could be fitted in.  That would probably
have to be a separate power supply, reserved for backlighting, with separate
access by unscrewing(?) one of the end caps.  Just think, for a little extra
cost (presumably a fraction of the cost of supplying the backlighting) the
extra power problem could well be solved!

Barry Collins
<collib@calypso.view.net.au>

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Unfortunately, the inside of the hinge tube is flat along the bottom, and
so AAA batteries won't fit either, that I've seen.  Additionally, there's
no practical way to reroute the ribbon cable running from the screen to
the motherboard.  Finally, the driver circuit for the backlight fits
inside the hinge, so it would be impossible to add batteries in there
anyway because the room is already used by the driver circuit board.

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Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:40:55 +0800
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              "R.S." <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM>
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I had the same problem before (July this yr.). Thanks for the help of this list I got it working
for months (till early Nov.). But unfortunately, It is happening again lately.

I had tried setting the timeout = 300 but still hv timeout error. I believe this time is either the
ISP or the traffic of the internet. Because I can get all the mails early in the morning
(6:30a.m.) in one connection almost all the time.

If you want I can send those cfg and bat files to you for reference.

Roger
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Date:         Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:46:46 -0800
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              "Alfred Lee, Mail List Account" <pc@MDS.COM>
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I found out that the camedos comes with source code.  This prompted me to
think about adding more function to it.  I am thinking about adding time lapse
control that is similar to the one that already exist.  My version would reprogram
the camera to power down a few seconds after a picture is taken and then
power down the HP itself.  It would program the power up alarm to wake itself
up at the next appointed time to that new picture and repeat the cycle. The
idea is to conserve battery power so that the set up may be left alone to take
pictures every hour for days on ends.  Please send me an email at
alfred1520@geocities.com if you are interested.  Please tell me any other idea
you may have.  Thanks.

Sincerely,
Alfred Lee


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From:   FrydaySMTP:fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM
Reply To:       HPLX Mailing List; Fryday
Sent:   Wednesday, December 01, 1999 12:20 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: 200LX and Digital Camera

Just a question for everyone who uses the 200LX with a Digital Camera:

What do you do with the LX exactly?

Philippe

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From: Loic Sautour <loic.sautour@WANADOO.FR>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 12:33 AM
Subject: 200LX and Digital Camera


> I found a pretty nice freeware called photopc
> (http://www.average.org/digicam/) and I successfully control my camera (Agfa
> E Photo 1280) with the 200 LX. Apparently, photopc works with:
>
> Agfa (ePhoto line), Epson PhotoPC, Olympus, Sanyo, Nikon, Sierra Imaging,
> Toshiba (list on http://www.average.org/digicam/cameras.html).
>
> I started to write a user interface with LXBatch.
>
> Since I looked in the archive of this list to see if there was any mention
> of this software and did not find anything, I thought I would write this
> post.
>
> I am new on this list and found it great. I've been using LX for more than 6
> years now and it is my 4th one. Thanks to the people maintaining and
> contributing to this list, I enjoy it a lot.
>
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Date:         Thu, 2 Dec 1999 21:07:32 EST
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Ditto Jacks comments, my 20 MB card works great too.

A. J.


In a message dated 12/1/99 10:49:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jlarosa@BELLSOUTH.NET writes:

> Hello HPLX compatriots
>
>    Just thought I'd let everyone know, I bought one of Scott Moore's 20
>    Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II and it arrived yesterday. It is
>    marked *IGT International Game Technology 20MB* and is about half
>    again as thick as the Simple Technology 16MB card I was using.

<SNIP>

>    Bottom line - no complaints.
>
>
>  Jack LaRosa          mailto:jlarosa@bellsouth.net
>  Using DS/DM HP200LX
>  Alabama, USA
>

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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> > Yes, but all this time you've survived without backlight so do you
> > really need it or just want it?  :-)
>
> I don't NEED it but I WANT it... ever try to play Freecell in a cop car
> in the dark.... <g>?

Most of us, if we found ourself in a cop car, won't be thinking of
playing FreeCell!

cheers... Russ  :-)

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> > Registered versions of Buddy allow you to run a smaller footprint
> > Buddy (Jeffery calls it DOS-lite).
>
> Yeah, it's BuddyDOS, but that doesn't work for SysMan.  I need the memory
> in SysMan more than in DOS apps, ironically.

Are you sure?

Okay, here's the message I wrote when I read the original messages but
suppressed it initially but as the thread has continued:

> On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Reinhard Mueller wrote:
>
> > It runs on my german lx, too. Not all features work, but the in my
> > opinion most valuable feature does: smartcaps. I could not live
> > without it.
>
> I agree.  In fact, what I'd like to see is a standalone SmartCaps TSR.
> Buddy is nicw, but we could save lots of memory with only SmartCaps.

Well, his original question reposted by you prompted me to wonder if
just loading the buddydos tsr in front of sysmgr would work.  Then you
replied so .....

Now, before you scoff, I have had buddydos working on a laptop computer
using a hacked up buddy.env file.  So give it a shot or shall I???  Not
only did smartcaps work but d-click.  Clearly, some features don't
understand a non-hp keyboard and computer.  I did have trouble figuring
out some of the puncuation/case stuff.  I got the basic buddy.env file
setup on the HP.  Then moved it checked results.  Played some more on
the hp, checked it again, back to hp and into and out of a patcher
program.

So maybe it would work IN FRONT of sysmgr?????  If it works, I want a
screen light discount! (G)

May the Master (Jeff) forgive me (G)

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Date:         Thu, 2 Dec 1999 21:39:03 -0600
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 22:09:07 -0500, Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> =
wrote:

> Most of us, if we found ourself in a cop car, won't be thinking of
> playing FreeCell!

Okay.... I admit that I also will use the backlight to read and write =
email
and maybe a little amateur radio AX.25 packet. The possibilities that a
backlight brings to those of us who use our LX'es in the dark are simply
amazing. As it is now, if I want to park somewhere and use it, I have to
turn on the dome light in my car, thereby making myself a better target =
and
removing any stealth ability to watch certain things which I may want to
observe, but by having a backlight I minimize that liability and can
increase my personal game playing productivity <g>.

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 2 Dec 1999 21:39:56 -0800
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              Steve Staloff <rodin@TELEPORT.COM>
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On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Chris Randle wrote:

> pleasant(!), whereas the Psion Series 5 was more intrusive, and
> likely to attract a "<tut> - not again" from the missus.
>
> Another marital question, one for the girls this time: My wife
> claims that although she can't see the light from the pocket
> torch, she "knows" that I'm reading my HP and not sleeping and
> this stops her sleeping. C'mon, this can't be true, can it?
>
This question can be answered from my past--before I started palmtopping.
I was in bed with a friend and had awakened thinking about my then current
research.  The work was deductive and deeply analytical.  To avoid
awakening my friend I lay perfectly still, my friend's back turned to me.
She was still.  After a few minutes of working on the aspect of the
problem which had awakened me, she suddenly turned to me and said sharply:
"Would you please stop thinking so hard, and go back to sleep? You're
keeping me up."  You don't need a palmtop or even finger motion, just a
sufficiently tuned-in friend combined with otherwise-tuned sufficiently
careful thoughts.


Steve Staloff
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Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:00:26 -0600
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: html editor for the hplx
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David Ball wrote:
>   >Well, maybe not regular -
>   >it's the best text editor I've ever seen by far, highly recommended
>   >and available at www.notetab.com
>
>and what's the name of this text editor, pray tell?

NoteTab! There are a couple of flavors - I use "NoteTab Std".

-Curtis

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Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 1999 01:24:17 -0500
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              John Chesbrough <JChesbrough@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Hi all,
I have just acquired a Nokia 7110.  I don't see anything on the CD which =
is
appropriate to IR coms with my 200LX.
I have WWW/LX, but have not used it as yet.  Any suggestions please?
John

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Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:19:56 -0800
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On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, F. Kaufman wrote:

> Now, before you scoff, I have had buddydos working on a laptop
> computer using a hacked up buddy.env file.  So give it a shot or shall
> I???  Not only did smartcaps work but d-click.  Clearly, some features
> don't understand a non-hp keyboard and computer.  I did have trouble
> figuring out some of the puncuation/case stuff.  I got the basic
> buddy.env file setup on the HP.  Then moved it checked results.
> Played some more on the hp, checked it again, back to hp and into and
> out of a patcher program.

Give it a shot -- I don't know how to "hack up" the buddy.env file.  <g>

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Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:20:42 -0800
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On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> ... As it is now, if I want to park somewhere and use it, I have to
> turn on the dome light in my car, thereby making myself a better
> target and removing any stealth ability ...

You see, folks?  The backlight may save lives!  <g>

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Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 1999 02:33:08 -0500
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      FLUFF: Nathalie - was   200LX and Digital Camera

   >i have to live up to my French reputation ;))
Message-Id: <19991203073305.XVAW21197@12.72.155.225>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 07:33:05 +0000

There's no question that she has this down to an art.

   >Lars is doing just fine; but Longden is doing better with his
   >intelligent humor,

Hmmm, where'd I put my list of bra jokes? .....

- Longden

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Subject:      Fluff: Backlight

   >> I don't NEED it but I WANT it... ever try to play Freecell in a
   >>cop car  in the dark.... <g>?
Message-Id: <19991203073312.XVBN21197@12.72.155.225>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 07:33:12 +0000

   >Most of us, if we found ourself in a cop car, won't be thinking of
   >playing FreeCell!

If you ever found yourself in Jeff's cop car, and he asks you to play
FreeCell in the dark, I don't think it'd be wise to argue the point <g>.

- Longden

PS - There's a huge grey area between "want" and "need", and I certainly
don't wear enough armour to volunteer to paint the dividing line.

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Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 1999 05:38:06 -0500
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              chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
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Hello Chris,you wrote:


"Yes, I have. A friend of mine had a Psion 3a. I remember
thinking at the time that the contrast was better than the
LX."

Oh,really!Psion is an english brand,isn't it?


"The 3c that came later wasn't as good. I ought to add that
I've had three 200LXs, and my latest one has noticeably
better contrast than the previous, so perhaps the later 200's were equal=
 to the 3a's"


I have had two LXs but I couldn't notice any different in contrast between=
 them.



"Finally, I have a Garmin GPS III. The screen on that is
fantastic. The best mono screen I've ever seen. The build
quality is great too. It feels indestructible - almost
military."


This Garmin what is it?A mobilphone,a pocketcomputer or just a light=
 organizer as the Palms?


Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 1999 03:39:23 -0800
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On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> This Garmin what is it?A mobilphone,a pocketcomputer or just a light
> organizer as the Palms?

It's a GPS unit -- global positioning system receiver.  It receives
signals from satellites and tells you your position on the screen.
Not a phone, PDA, or anything high-end like that.  Just a device to help
you find out where on earth you are.

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Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 1999 05:25:44 -0600
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@FLASH.NET>
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> > Yes, but all this time you've survived without backlight so do you
> > really need it or just want it?  :-)
>
> I don't NEED it but I WANT it... ever try to play Freecell in a cop car =
in
> the dark.... <g>?
>
> Jeff

Hopefully, that is while not in pursuit, right?  :-)


Best Regards, Robert Hocking
In Sterling Heights, Michigan
Email Address: hocking@flash.net

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Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:20:24 +0100
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Hi!

Thanks for all your explicite answers=2E Now I know, what this means=2E I had a l=
ook
in my books, but this specifc typedef I found nowhere=2E Without you, I would hav=
e
needed much more time to get it=2E

Martin

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Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 1999 07:41:03 -0500
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              S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM
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> For future reference, could you or anyone else recommend a more reliable
> point of contact for technical support?

I would suggest visiting the palmtop forum on Compuserve for support.  =
The
HPHand forum was just merged with this one on Dec. 1.  Many people here =
could
also help.

> Not a problem.  I ordered and now have Classic Compuserve software
> version 2.6 (written specifically for Windows 3.1) that I'll be
> installing on my Windows 95 machine to establish my new Compuserve
> account.

The last version of Compuserve's software that runs reliable on my =
desktop is
version 2.6 for Win 3.1.  I have a Pentium running Win98 and any flavor =
of
version 3.x and 4.x crash often for me.

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Date:         Thu, 2 Dec 1999 23:33:19 -0500
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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Well yes, I have, but my problem wasn't the lack of light, it
was the handcuffs! ;)

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, December 02, 1999 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: Backlight


On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:00:11 -0800, "Quinton Jones, Jr." <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
wrote:

> Yes, but all this time you've survived without backlight so do you
> really need it or just want it?  :-)

I don't NEED it but I WANT it... ever try to play Freecell in a cop car in
the dark.... <g>?

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Date:         Thu, 2 Dec 1999 23:34:38 -0500
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It's not the size of the batteries, it is how long they last!

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Ulrich Boche <BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, December 02, 1999 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: Backlight


>Have you seen the size of the batteries these people are carrying?
>
>Ulrich Boche
>
>Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> wrote:
>
>>>How about a miners cap!?
>
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Date:         Thu, 2 Dec 1999 23:54:26 -0500
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By then you'll have nothing but time on your hands...

;)

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, December 02, 1999 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: Backlight


>Most of us, if we found ourself in a cop car, won't be thinking of
>playing FreeCell!

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Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:44:44 +0100
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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> > this stops her sleeping. C'mon, this can't be true, can it?
> sufficiently tuned-in friend combined with otherwise-tuned sufficiently
> careful thoughts.

Also, many parents wake when their kids are dreaming happily, nightmare,
waking, freezing, etc, at least when they sleep together. Mothers more so,
maybe. I am like this with my son if we sleep together, although I sleep
heavily normally. But it does not work over distance for me. Some other
mothers I have talked say it works over distance too, but I always put that
down to wishful thinking. :-)

The alternative crowd will consider this energy thing normal, I am not
'educated' enough though. My wishful thinking collides a little with common
sense and technical education. One wonders when triangular printed circuit
boards are sold to balance your energy and people start babling about E.T.
abducting them for their sperm/eggs to advance their race or that there are
10.000 alien ships from the gamma quadrant protecting the earth... Although
my father could find water with a forked twig and I practice martial arts
now and again where energy flow is important. Too many contradictions for me
at this point in time. Maybe in another life... :-))))

br

Franklin

(Any young Cleopatras around?)

:-)

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Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:59:26 -0500
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>
> Date:    Wed, 1 Dec 1999 21:02:39 -0500
> From:    Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
> Subject: Re: Backlight
>
> How about a miners cap!?
>

Good Idea - that way while you compute as you walk around in the dark,
your head's also protected from bumps!

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)

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Thanks for the Furby link.  When I get access to my daughter's Furby (when
she comes home from university for the Christmas break!!!) I'll have a go
at controlling it!
br
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David Sargeant wrote:


"It's a GPS unit -- global positioning system receiver.  It
receives signals from satellites and tells you your position on the=
 screen.Not a phone, PDA, or anything high-end like that.  Just a device=
 to help you find out where on earth you are."

Oh,so it was a boring GPS receiver.Well I usually know where on earth=
 I am:-)


Thanks for your answer anyway.


Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:43:37 -0600
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              Doug Mc Vey <DougMcVey@PRODIGY.NET>
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I clip a Flash Bright flashlight with clip on the inside of my van door over
my left shoulder.  Light can be adjusted toward steering wheel where 200LX
screen can be read very well.  The light is very discreet.  Haven't run
anyone off the road yet.
Bought the Flash Bright at Lowes - about $6.95.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: Backlight


> On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> > ... As it is now, if I want to park somewhere and use it, I have to
> > turn on the dome light in my car, thereby making myself a better
> > target and removing any stealth ability ...
>
> You see, folks?  The backlight may save lives!  <g>
>
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From:         Nan-shan Chen <chen@GET.UNI-PADERBORN.DE>
Subject:      Re: C programmer PAL library question
In-Reply-To:  <TFSAMWAB@mn.man.de> from "Martin Doering" at Dec 3,
              99 01:20:24 pm
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Martin,

I'm happen to have been of help! :)

rudi

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In-Reply-To:  <TFSAMWAB@mn.man.de> from "Martin Doering" at Dec 3,
              99 01:20:24 pm
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PS. I forgot something which I have not sent since it might
be too long.

I made a simple one to exhause and test all 4
possibilities before posting, in order not to
give a misleading answer. I would need it too myself
as a memo. Because I forget these too. The syntax is not
quite easy to memorize if you do not use it too often.

------------------------------------------------
#include <stdio.h>

typedef struct pst { double x, y; } POINT_T;
struct POINT_S { double x, y; } q;      /* q declared as global */

int main(void)
{
  POINT_T p;                            /* p declared */
  struct POINT_S r;                     /* r declared */
  struct pst s;                         /* s declared */

  p.x = 1.0;
  p.y = 2.0;

  q.x = p.x;
  q.y = p.y;

  r.x = q.x;
  r.y = q.y;

  s.x = r.x;
  s.y = r.y;

  printf("p = %f %f\n", p.x, p.y);
  printf("q = %f %f\n", q.x, q.y);
  printf("r = %f %f\n", r.x, r.y);
  printf("s = %f %f\n", s.x, s.y);

  return 0;
}
------------------------------------------------

Rudi

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Hi Hal & co

> The current model is blue, almost blue-green, but we're considering going
> blue-green.  Other colors, like amber and white, may also be used, but
> they use more power.

....and will you sell do-it-yourself backlight upgrade kits? 8-)

GTX
daniel

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The site posted earlier for the Dos Fubry program is down - so could
someone email me the program?  I want to see if it will run
on the 95LX - maybe it'll help me get a couple of bucks more when I
sell it on eBay if it does. :-)

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> #include <stdio.h>

My apologies!! I wanted to send this off-the-list. But used the
wrong version again! Anyone using "elm"? I need the option for
showing the "reply-to:" field for editing ...

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Hi!

I'm done with porting pm (PAL make) to Unix (HP-UX - maybe Linux runs it even
better)=2E I also did some modifications to make it run as a native win32 console
mode app, but I stopped it, because I have too less experience and documentation
for to be a Win32 programmer, as I recognized=2E So I now concentrate on Unix
systems=2E My goal is to make it possible to run PAL applications as/in a (at
first) fixed size Window under X11=2E This is even good for testing=2E

This basic pm program and much of the PAL Code will run on Unix with just minor
modfications=2E But even more work is to be done at the graphics code and on the
kind events are handled=2E Imagine your favorite app running on X11 and exchangin=
g
data via the X11-clipboard?!?

The next step could be to let PAL be running (in-)directly on the hardware on
top of the framebuffer-driver of the nanogui library (possibly with mouse?)=2E
This also would work under Dos and you then could use other graphics resolutions
than CGA (maybe you can do so now? I don't know=2E I have very bad experience in
DOS-programming=2E

I'm now going home (for the weekend)=2E There my mail address is:
mailto:mdoering@mucl=2Ede



PS: My favorite Editor is FTE / XFTE / KFTE - it works great and is easy to
learn!

Whish you a nice weekend, Martin

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In the Palmtop Newsletter #19 it is told:

"To view whatever text is hidden, press MENU plus one of the arrow keys."

That's a very good tip. I never knew of this!

Now: how can I speed up the scrolling speed?

-goe-

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I had the exactly same problems with an OmniGo 700 LX via plugged-in
Nokia 2110 and the 200 LX via serial cable on an ISDN ZyXEL Elite 2864i.

-goe-

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From: Eric C. Thompson <ect@TELEPORT.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Freitag, 3. Dezember 1999 00:15
Subject: Time outs with CCLXPOP?


>Hello,
>
>I was wondering if any one else has had problems with timeouts on
>CCLXPOP, version 1.05. Every time I try to download email it starts to
>download the first message, then gives me a POP server timeout.  I have
>tried three different POP servers and have gotten the same results.  Do I
>have something setup wrong?  Or is there something wrong with my ISP?
>
>I have gotten it to send a message OK a couple different times.  I seem to
>have the same problem with LXPOP and LXNNTP but I have not tried
>them quite as much.  I think my connection is OK because LXTELNET, LXFTP
>and LXPING all seem to work great.
>
>Thanks,
> Eric
>
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>Something is setup wrong. I had that problem and then
>realized I hadn't set the password correctly. Since less
>problems than I have with a Windows machine.

If you get one message and then have a timeout it cannot
be the password!

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>All of this is unneccessary IF you can run full HTML
>on your device...
>
>The win for such a solution *might* be if secure transactions can
>be conducted through a WAP gateway.
>
>WAP is very reduced functionally...


Another win would be, that, if you could access websites through
a WAP-gateway, that much more sites are accessible for the LX.
e.g. frames, tables etc. Too many "Webdesigners" don't care
a lot about the bandwidth of "less-is-more"-communities as we
are.

So this thread started, because we want to benefit of the 'new'
less-is-more WAPology.

-goe-

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     The message is the message"
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>Another marital question, one for the girls this time: My wife
>claims that although she can't see the light from the pocket
>torch, she "knows" that I'm reading my HP and not sleeping and
>this stops her sleeping. C'mon, this can't be true, can it?


It's the rhythm of your breath and the heartbeat.

-goe-

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Does this mean, that we can perhaps compile some Linux
source-code in PAL to let it run under DOS and LX?

This would be great!

-goe-

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From: Martin Doering <Martin_Doering@MN.MAN.DE>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Freitag, 3. Dezember 1999 18:07
Subject: PAL for UNIX


I'm done with porting pm (PAL make) to Unix (HP-UX - maybe Linux runs it
even
better).

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> thank you for pointing me to Buddy
> what is the latest version? i have ver 2.1 (unregistered)

I have version 3.0b, but I think 2.1 is still very useful

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> Al, Steve, and Longden
>
> thank you for pointing me to Buddy
> what is the latest version? i have ver 2.1 (unregistered)

I'm using Buddy ver 3.0b, but haven't made it work with PalEdit in WWW/LX
yet. Anyway I agree that it's an invaluable application. My 200LX keeps
me and much of my medical practice organized, and Buddy is a large
help.

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John,

> I have just acquired a Nokia 7110.  I don't see anyth
> ing on the CD which is
> appropriate to IR coms with my 200LX.
> I have WWW/LX, but have not used it as yet.  Any su
> ggestions please?

Check the WWW/LX doc's and do a search on the string "IrDA". This will produce
a section which explains setting up WWW/LX with IrDA phone.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Eric-

I assume the Pop3 server responds to something other than ccLXPOP? You may want
to see if LXPOP doesn't cause a timeout and ccLXPOP does... I also have found
that sometimes one particular email will cause it to lock up - and deleting
that email (without downloading, which is regrettable).  I am planning an
update to ccLXPOP to cause it to basically act like PNRTI, and use LXMTA as a
basis for downloading.

Good luck!

Brian

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On 1999-11-30 Winfried said:
   >David,
   >try upper case or lower case. I had the same problem.
   >Winfried

Thanks, I'll try that!

Regards,

David Ball
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I had similar problems when I first started using LXTCP. I
eventually traced it down to an MTU/MRU problem. Adding the line

mru 1500

to my pppd.cfg fixed things for me.

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On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Brian McIlvaine wrote:

>         ...I also have found that sometimes one particular email
> will cause it to lock up - and deleting that email (without
> downloading, which is regrettable).

Brian,

This is a good point.  I've had similar experiences with LXPOP,
but not recently.  I *do* have stashed away a couple of e-mails=20
that managed to choke LXPOP.  In both cases there was something=20
odd with a header.  I'm including the offending headers below.

Ted

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I apologise if people already knew this, and I suppose it's a
bit obvious, but, being a bear of very little brain, I only
just thought of it, and it does work.

I was using Harry Konstas's HDM application launcher under
Software Carousel, with two pages of jumbled icons. I wanted
to have nested "groups" in much the same way as the old System
Manager under Win 3.1.

Of course, you can have an icon on one page which launches
another HDM session with a different .DAT file. It works fine.
I now have an icon for Card Games, which takes you to another
screen of card games - entirely Curtis's, naturally ;-)
Pressing Esc on the Card Games screen brings you back to the
main menu screen.

I ran a DOS Mem from a command.com "program" from a 1st and 2nd
level HDM session, and also a MEM without HDM. Results are
below, so you can see it's not entirely overhead free.

DOS Only:  539k
HDM lvl 1: 532k
HDM lvl 2: 529k

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Have you looked at ZZT? The level of "hack and slay" varies
between game files depending on the style of the author. Some
are pure puzzle based, but it's graphical like Rogue. There are
literally hundreds of files for it, and it has an editor so you
can make your own.

http://www.epicgames.com/zzt.htm
http://zzt.org/zzt.shtml


On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:44:47 +0100, Martin Doering wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Is there a "dcgames" or "kyle's quest" like interpreter for such tile oriented
> adventure games for the HPLX? I would like to play these kind of game while my
> wife is looking tv   ;-).
>
> I'm searching for a more story orientated, but even graphicle adventure game. I
> had a look at these interactive fiction (text only) games, but found it too much
> to write on the small keyboard.
>
> Games like Rogue or Zangband I found too hack and slay oriented.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Martin
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<<I'm hoping that this will be an upgrade option as well.  Indeed, I am
eagerly looking forward to when this is going to be available.  How much
(tentatively) will the backlight upgrade (assuming it's being offered)
cost?>>

$199

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On Fri Dec 03, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> Hello Chris,you wrote:
>
> "Yes, I have. A friend of mine had a Psion 3a. I remember
> thinking at the time that the contrast was better than the
> LX."
>
> Oh,really!Psion is an english brand,isn't it?

Yes, on paper. I believe the guy who founded the company is
South African, but we're pretty good at glossing over
nationalities when someone's doing well. To be fair though, it
is a British Company.

> "Finally, I have a Garmin GPS III. The screen on that is
> fantastic. The best mono screen I've ever seen. The build
> quality is great too. It feels indestructible - almost
> military."
>
> This Garmin what is it?A mobilphone,a pocketcomputer or just a light
>  organizer as the Palms?

Its a Global Positioning System. An amazing device that tells
you where you are on the surface of the earth to within 10
meters when you're in a city centre car park, but is often
unsure as to the planet when you're lost in a wood somewhere.
Well, my experience of it anyway, (read operator error).

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>  As it is now, if I want to park somewhere and use it, I have to
> turn on the dome light in my car, thereby making myself a better target and
> removing any stealth ability to watch certain things which I may want to
> observe, but by having a backlight I minimize that liability and can

Jeff,
I can see that in your job low visability could be very important at
times.  I would have someone check you at night too see how much of the
backlight is reflected off your face.  In a very dark location this
might be enough for you to be much more visable than desired.

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Fri,  3 Dec 1999 19:04:38 -0500 (EST)

Hi folks -

For David and anyone else interested in the VDE editor, version 1.9
came out a few days ago.  Just found it, and haven't tried it out yet,
but according to the docs it can now handle large (~600K) files.  It's
at:

http://www.punky.com/vde/


Later

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On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> ....and will you sell do-it-yourself backlight upgrade kits? 8-)

Hmmm.... I don't think so.  Waaaaay too dangerous.

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Hi all,

For all those interested, the offical Morphy One site at
http://www.morphyone.org/ now appears to be up and running.
Sadly, it is virtually all in Japanese, and the English press
release remained unchanged when I checked. Any and all
updates from our Japanese friends (or anyone else with any
information to offer) are most welcome!

Needless to say, I've updated my Morphy One page at
http://games.hplx.net/morphyone.htm to reflect the new link
(and I've also put in a link to a page full of renderings).

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This is an interesting article on HP's 200LX, and how Japanese fans don't

want to let it die.

http://www.nikkeibp.asiabiztech.com/wcs/leaf?CID=onair/asabt/cover/85697

Needless to add, it's a shame that the Omnibook couldn't be kept alive in

this way. I guess you could argue that many of the Japanese subnotebooks
are keeping the tradition alive.

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Subject:      Re: Fluff: (total fluff) backlight AND Thanks (to the list)

re: the FLUFF threads on backlights

> > this stops her sleeping. C'mon, this can't be true, can it?
> sufficiently tuned-in friend combined with otherwise-tuned sufficiently
> careful thoughts.
<snip>
Summarizing lots of cool energy stuff:
>energy shared between people, etc.

Damn! ANOTHER energy leak from the LX, can we ever keep it from interfering
w/ cell phones, sleeping significant others, etc.

I'll bet some engineer on the list could figure out a way to keep all this
energy INSIDE the palmtop and TRIPLE the battery life!

**AND**

re: The thread about NOT being able to use the LX with handcuffs...

THANK you all for a heartfelt chuckle!!!

*THAT* bit of "energy" negated some very negative energy from work and
brought the natural smile back to my face!!

Umm, one question though for Franklin:

Is the "(Any young Cleopatras around?)" question meant to stir up any who
think they're Cleopatra reincarnated, folks channeling her spirit, or are
you just asking if there are any cute girls on the list?  <grin -- *NOT*
making fun of you ... disclaimer.... disclaimer.... disclaimer.... Heck, I
may've met her exponentially squared granddaughter, but I think she's
taken....>

Take Care y'all,

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> Of course, you can have an icon on one page which launches
> another HDM session with a different .DAT file. It works fine.

> below, so you can see it's not entirely overhead free.
>
> DOS Only:  539k
> HDM lvl 1: 532k
> HDM lvl 2: 529k

Not free but too expensive either for the flexibility it gives you with
the nested menus.

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Eric C. Thompson writes:
> I was wondering if any one else has had problems with timeouts on
> CCLXPOP, version 1.05.

I use LXTCP and at certain times of day I had lots of timeout problems. In
my WATTCP.CFG file I set SOCKDELAY=240 and I have had fewer problems.

The funny thing is that a lot of times when it did happen I would log off,
log on again and would then get all my email with no hassles.


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Hi David,

In reference to Buddy:

>> It runs on my german lx, too. Not all features work, but the in my
>> opinion most valuable feature does: smartcaps. I could not live
>> without it.
>
>I agree.  In fact, what I'd like to see is a standalone SmartCaps TSR.
>Buddy is nicw, but we could save lots of memory with only SmartCaps.

Ditto!

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
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WarpCast News Service wrote:
(Source: Tom Nadeau (os2headquarters@mindspring.com))
> The December 1999 edition of "The Warped Perspective" at  OS/2
> Headquarters is now at:  http://www.os2hq.com/
> This month's edition discusses the Microsoft plan to eliminate DOS
> (and perhaps Windows 3.X) support from Windows2000, cutting off the
> market for thousands of small ISVs.

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Russ,
Are you discriminatin' against those of us who do.

Dennis
(The Other Cop)

> Most of us, if we found ourself in a cop car, won't be thinking of
>  playing FreeCell!

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On 03-Dec-99, Chris Randle wrote:
> Have you looked at ZZT? The level of "hack and slay" varies
> between game files depending on the style of the author. Some
> are pure puzzle based, but it's graphical like Rogue. There are
> literally hundreds of files for it, and it has an editor so you
> can make your own.

It seems pretty cool, with more of an emphasis on puzzle solving (it
actually reminds me of a cross between Rogue and Ultima).

Is there a way to make ZZT more legible on the LX screen?

How much memory is required to run ZZT?  I have to exit the System Manager
in order to free enough memory to run it (this loses some of the
spontaneity factor of "playing a quick game" that Rogue has).

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On 03-Dec-99, Russel Brooks wrote:
>> DOS Only:  539k
>> HDM lvl 1: 532k
>> HDM lvl 2: 529k
>
> Not free but too expensive either for the flexibility it gives you with
> the nested menus.

How does this compare with using nested directories in SMMx?

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Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>

wrote:

"The second solution doubles the work of the Webmaster.(i.e.    present=
 a WAP version beside the HTML site)
It is nearly impossible to do something like this, if a lotofdeep, reliable=
 and up-do-date data should be available./.../The third solution is=
 the right one IMHO. The apache servercan do the job. It is possible=
 to check out, which type ofbrowser the client uses. You can then redirect=
 it to a frameless or JavaScriptlesspage."

But in the third solution someone must have to write the frameless or=
 Javascriptlesspages also,would this not also add a lot of  work,the=
 same prhaps,for the webmaster?


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   >I was using Harry Konstas's HDM application launcher under
   >Software Carousel, with two pages of jumbled icons. I wanted
   >to have nested "groups" in much the same way as the old System
   >Manager under Win 3.1.
Message-Id: <19991204093237.WFHU26074@12.72.155.144>
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 09:32:37 +0000

   >Of course, you can have an icon on one page which launches
   >another HDM session with a different .DAT file. It works fine.
   >I now have an icon for Card Games, which takes you to another
   >screen of card games - entirely Curtis's, naturally ;-)
   >Pressing Esc on the Card Games screen brings you back to the
   >main menu screen.

   >I ran a DOS Mem from a command.com "program" from a 1st and 2nd
   >level HDM session, and also a MEM without HDM. Results are
   >below, so you can see it's not entirely overhead free.

I have the same kind of setup.  Some of my lower level HDM screens that
have only a small amount of memory remaining will still allow a MaxDOS icon
to run. I find it useful to organize some of the big apps on a single HDM
screen, where many of them start using MaxDOS.

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"But in the third solution someone must have to write the frameless or
Javascriptlesspages also,would this not also add a lot of  work,the same
prhaps,for the webmaster?"


No. Think of something like the HTML2TXT tool on Super. It converts a HTML
page in ASCII text. Even tables are converted correctly. And now think of a
program on the server that does this on the fly. You get only a converted
HTML page. I think it should be possible, although not too easy.

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> I'm using Buddy ver 3.0b, but haven't made it work with
>  PalEdit in WWW/LX

I use BuddyDOS with PE and WWW/LX.  In fact I am using them all to type =
this
note.  I am not running under System Manager, but in a DOS SC session.

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On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Terrence Chun wrote:

> Is there a way to make ZZT more legible on the LX screen?

Has anybody tried running ZZT with CGAHELP from SUPER?

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>OK Lars, how old are you? 12? 13?!? Talk about global
>stereotypes!Stop setting a bad example for the others!!

As I remember, it wasn't Lars who started this part of the thread !

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On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Terrence Chun wrote:

> How does this compare with using nested directories in SMMx?

As far as I can tell, SMMx, being designed with this feature in mind,
doesn't use any extra memory when opening a sub-menu.  It just closes the
old one (I presume) and re-opens it when you go back, whereas HDM just
loads itself again.  Perhaps this can be fixed, so HDM behaves more like
SMMX in this regard, (which would be a good idea because sometimes HDM
makes the screen go blank when escaping back to a previous menu, and only
a ctrl-lshift-on will make it come back on), if anybody has the skill and
time to modify and recompile it.

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Hey, thanks for link. It is an interesting site. They referred to a new
book "Seven Lean Years". It describes exactly what I've been telling many
people for years and have experienced first hand concerning the direction
of our high tech industry in this country.

Patrick West wrote:

> > The December 1999 edition of "The Warped Perspective" at  OS/2
> > Headquarters is now at:  http://www.os2hq.com/
> > This month's edition discusses the Microsoft plan to eliminate DOS

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I tried running ZZt with HDM, you can choose Black & White display. And the
screen is much better. This way you don't hv to write batch file to run it with
CGAHELP.
I noticed the memory problem when switching the HDM menus. HDM is a great, I
use it to launch my DOS programs during DOS session.

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I  have (12) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are
in excellent condition. They have only been used a  very few times on
testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg
PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for
$65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! I also have (10)

16 Meg 72Pin EDO Simms for sale. I sell (1) 16 Meg Simms for $15.00 and
I sell (2) or more for $13.00 a piece plus $3.00 shipping . I accept
Money Orders Only and you can send payment to my payment to my address
at:


Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back  the day I receive your payment and let you know
that your disks our on the way. I always send out next day unless I
receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on
Monday. Please email me and let me if you are interested and when you
are sending payment so I can hold your disks for you. The response has
been tremendous and the people I have worked with on this group have
been really  great.  Thanks alot!   Scott

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Hi,

I found a new in the box PPI Pocket Modem 14.4 v 90 on eBay.  It's a
Mac model but it works fine with the SS&S cable.  Just passing along
my happiness at finding one of these little gems and a heads up to
watch eBay for more of them.

My EXP 1414LXM/8 is now my back-up modem for my Palmtop.

Best,

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> Give it a shot -- I don't know how to "hack up" the buddy.env file.  <g>

Well, neither did I!  I looked for common symbols, patched etc.  _YOU_
of the screen backlight hack can't tweak a 2,000 byte little, tinie
file.... Ah, comeon.... (G)

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>    >i have to live up to my French reputation ;))
> Message-Id: <19991203073305.XVAW21197@12.72.155.225>
> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 07:33:05 +0000
>
> There's no question that she has this down to an art.
>
>    >Lars is doing just fine; but Longden is doing better with his
>    >intelligent humor,
>
> Hmmm, where'd I put my list of bra jokes? .....


Don't want to seem to sophisticaed, huh??? (G)

She, the doc, will probably have an excellent bedside manner! (g)

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Hi HP patriots!
I'm new in this list so shortly.
Today received 20Meg disk from known Scott, plugged it in - nothing
happened. I have old HP100LX, normal speed, bios v.1.02A.
Opened Filer - only disk C:. Change disk - "the drive A; is not
ready". HMmm ;-((
Volkov Commander: Alt+F1, A -"the drive is not ready". Then Setup -
RAM cards battery - OK. Cardin.com from SUPER - Smart Modular ATA card
inserted.
Then scanned HPLX folder for Cards, ATA, only some messages left. :-<
Then Hardware test - "unknown4". Then fdisk100 - "fdisk is not needed
for drive A:" ;-( Then - format A: - "can't read drive A:", or "format
can't be performed on drive A:, action terminated". "can't perform on
assigned drive" when tried on drive E:.

So I don't know who is in fault: card or machine?

Scanned Inet for drivers - as I think here is lack of it - no
success.:-(

Can anybody help HP loner in Lithuania?

Any kind of help or advice will be appreciated.

TIA



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Date:         Sat, 4 Dec 1999 12:52:46 -0500
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Stephan Goeldi wrote:

">OK Lars, how old are you? 12? 13?!? Talk about global
>stereotypes!Stop setting a bad example for the others!!
"
As I remember, it wasn't Lars who started this part of the
thread !-goe-"


Thanks Goeldie.

My main concern was if Nathalie could take that bra joke, cause if she=
 did,that would be the norm.

(and the feminists say that women have no power...)

Concerning my age,I try to follow the very famous  Swiss psychoanalyst=
 C.G.Jung's advice and try to be young at heart.

Joking in multi-cultural environments really is a minefield,so I guess=
 it's best in the future to also keep a low joking-profile, not only=
 a low FLUFF-profile consequently.
(Hey,this list gets more and more boring :-)) .

From one thing to another,Goldie,this law of Metcalf,is it something=
 like Murphy's law?which is:If something can go wrong,it will.

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   >be a good idea because sometimes HDM makes the screen go blank when
   >escaping back to a previous menu, and only a ctrl-lshift-on will
   >make it come back on), if anybody has the skill and time to modify
   >and recompile it.
Message-Id: <19991204183042.FDUR2272@12.72.154.11>
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 18:30:42 +0000

I've never seen this behavior in my HDM.  Could it be an incompatibility
with your Software Carousel (or maybe another TSR)?

- Longden

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> Joking in multi-cultural environments really is a minefield,so I guess =
it's best in the future to also keep a low joking-profile, not only a low =
FLUFF-profile consequently.
> (Hey,this list gets more and more boring :-)) .

From my limited experience (spending a year in a foreign
country), I think that the huge cultural differences that
are supposed to exist between countries are often vastly
exaggerated.

It's all too easy to forget that deep down we're all human
beings (strange but true!), and we have a lot in common (eg.
the LX!). Usually, what's funny in one country is funny in
another, so carry on joking, everybody - even Lars! :-) And
if anyone is offended, well... blame me! <g>

> >From one thing to another,Goldie,this law of Metcalf,is it something =
like Murphy's law?which is:If something can go wrong,it will.

Otherwise known as Murphy's Law, or probably something else,
depending on your country of origin. You see? We're all
exactly the same... We're a mono-culture! <g>

 -Mike http://games.hplx.net

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Date:         Sat, 4 Dec 1999 20:47:18 +0100
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Subject:      Double GSM modem bandwith on LX with 2 phones?

Hello all,

I've been following the GSM-IRDA interference thread and all
related wireless networking things. Here is an idea:

I guess an LX user (who has an OGO700LX or a 64/96MB 200LX
with Nokia Datacard in the PCMCIA slot) could almost double
his/her data bandwith by using TWO mobile-phones simultane-
ously and achieve 2x9,6 or 9,6+14,4=24kbps speed.

One phone is a Nokia 2110 (for OGO700LX) or compatible, which
goes into Datacard. Other is a 8110 or so, hanging on IRDA.
You dial up the same ISP with both phones.

All you need is driver to handle the traffic-splitting for
the two phonelines/modems; which service is implemented in
the OS by Linux, WinNT, OS/2 for desktops using land-lines.
Probably this may also be done under DOS.

I guess the problem is, there are 2 major TCP packages in use
by LXers; thus coding must be done twice for WWW/LX and LXTCP.
This reduces the chance, that anyone would undertake the task.
Some questions arise:

How many of you carry two GSM phones simultaneously?
(Plus a GPS, beeper, ham radio, Iridium, INMARSAT, etc.)

What happens if two phones work, less than an armlenght apart
from each other? Do they get jammed?

Thanks for attention, regards: Tamas


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Alchemija wrote:

"Hi HP patriots!
I'm new in this list"

Labas!

Welcome to the list.

My name is Lars and I live in Southsweden,one of my best friends is=
 married with a woman from Lithuania so I
know a whole gang lithuanians,most of them come from Vilnius.
That's why I know the word Labas.


I am soory but I don't think I can help you with your problem,I have=
 a 200LX and I have actually never seen a 100LX,but I think here is=
 people on the list who can.

If you ever consider to buy a 200LX and can't find anyone in Lithuania,I=
 think I can help you to find one second-hand in Sweden.

You are always welcome to email me off-list.

Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

> I've never seen this behavior in my HDM.  Could it be an
> incompatibility with your Software Carousel (or maybe another TSR)?

I'm sure it is, but I haven't been able to figure it out yet.  In the
meantime, it would be handy to fix HDM so it does menus automatically
anyway, so might as well.  <g>

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On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Alchemija wrote:

> Can anybody help HP loner in Lithuania?

The problem is that the 100LX doesn't recognize a great number of ATA
flash cards.  There are two options: load the ACECARD3 driver, or wait for
an improved version which should be coming out sometime soon.

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>Joking in multi-cultural environments really is a minefield

Well, it depends on how many frustrated people read your
jokes. If I feel offended I would answer you off-list or shut
up. It has to be a really bad thing to flame you for a joke.
By the way: there were some smileys on the answer to
your joke. I think, smileys and (g)'s are overused.

-goe-

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>From one thing to another,Goldie,this law of Metcalf,is
>it something like Murphy's law?which is:If something
>can go wrong,it will.

No. It is a real law that is comparable with things on
the Internet. You can read more about this Metcalfe
on the website of Jakob Nielsen (www.useit.com).
He (Nielsen) is called the Internet Guru No. 6.
My work depends a lot on his work (Information
Architecture and Usability).

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Hello David,

Thanks for reply :-)
on Saturday, December 04, 1999, you wrote:

DS> flash cards.  There are two options: load the ACECARD3 driver,
OK, good and where I can get it?
Any link or reasonable advice how execute search for it?
DS>  or wait for
DS> an improved version which should be coming out sometime soon.
Waiting for me was and is always is very painful. Maybe there is
another way?

PS. Pardon for my poor English  :-((


Best regards,
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Yes, I suppose it is a bit of a memory hog. I'm afraid that
since I've started using software carousel on an 8MB upgraded
unit, I've stopped worrying about memory requirements. If
anybody is pondering the upgrade - don't! It moves the 200LX
forward a decade in terms of usability. I'm sometimes wish I'd
gone for 32MB instead of 8MB, but that's WANT rather than
NEED.

As for screen settings, try adjusting the grayscale with Fn-/
together with the inversion setting Fn-* and contrast Fn-- &
Fn-+. I usually find a happy compromise in there somewhere.


On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU> wrote:

> It seems pretty cool, with more of an emphasis on puzzle solving (it
> actually reminds me of a cross between Rogue and Ultima).
>
> Is there a way to make ZZT more legible on the LX screen?
>
> How much memory is required to run ZZT?  I have to exit the System Manager
> in order to free enough memory to run it (this loses some of the
> spontaneity factor of "playing a quick game" that Rogue has).
>
> -- Terry
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At my son's school they are using Microworlds Logo programming software.

Has anyone used a logo programming tool on the LX?

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I've been thinking about adding battery capacity - The 15-year-old
"NiCad" brand, SAFT-made, NICads I use in my LX - my ancient pets
that've lasted through a lot of use - are on their last legs, they drop
from Full to double beep on startup, in a day :(  Drat!  Someone had the
gall to suggest I just buy replacement batteries <G>  Probably will.

Some alternate power methods for the 200Lx;  Anyone have additional
ideas?

Source             weight   mAh eqv.  charge batteries?
Lead-Acid            1Lb+    6000+      Yes
Spare batteries      1Lb-    1500+      na
External Batt. Pack  1Lb-    1500+      probably a bad idea <G>
Car power cable      1Lb-    6000++     Definitely
Solar power          1-2Lb    250+      Not quickly <G>

When at a desk etc., AC power's also do-able, just disable Battery
Charging when appropriate.

Small lead-acid batteries are not horribly heavy, can be charged
quickly, but that cord can be inconvenient.  We don't need a golf cart
battery on a 2-wheel carrier for the 200Lx, unlike SOME laptops <G>
Could charge your NiCad/NiMH internals off this for a larger Lead-Acid,
or just extend life when at a desk.  Lots of small 12V batteries for
under $10 out there (but those're HEAVY, one's $7, 4AH 12V with a carry
case, new, would run a 200LX for a month maybe, but weighs 3 pounds
probably <G>)

Most of us just carry a couple extra batteries, this works <G>  They can
drain down though, if not handled right (or if older NiMH's.)

An external battery back could be made that would sort of "snap" onto
the right side of the 200Lx, using either a couple NiMH batteries, a
very small lead-acid, or even a Camcorder Li-Ion battery, you'd need a
DC-DC converter for this (unless a 12V lead-acid);  securing it there's
rough though - Wish there was a good way to lock such a battery in
place, will think <G>  A battery pack with a cable can be done, same as
a Lead-Acid, it's as inconvenient (if lighter!), though.  Could put
batteries under the 200LX, that might be bothersome to some people
though.  Maybe behind the display, snapped onto the display, but then
the machine would be top-heavy...  Hmmm, there are those new "paper"
thin type batteries I've heard of, have never seen them for purchase
though.

Won't more than mention fuel cells or microturbines today <G>

Car power is pretty do-able, so long as you filter that power so it
won't destroy the 200Lx, easy enough to do with existing equipment
(Radio Shack probably sells this already <G>)

Yeah, Solar power isn't perfect for backlighting, think charging a spare
pair of batteries at a convenient location though.  Solar's lots cheaper
than it once was, but huge area's still needed (say 10-12 of the 6"
square, $5 panels Jameco sells, to give you 9VDC at 600mA in bright
sunlight, so you can charge your batteries quicker;  3 square feet is
not simple to carry...)  You can use mirrors to raise the power output
of solar cells, to some extent, don't melt the cells though <G>

  Mark

David Sargeant wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, the inside of the hinge tube is flat along the bottom, and
> so AAA batteries won't fit either, that I've seen.  Additionally, there's
> no practical way to reroute the ribbon cable running from the screen to
> the motherboard.  Finally, the driver circuit for the backlight fits
> inside the hinge, so it would be impossible to add batteries in there
> anyway because the room is already used by the driver circuit board.
>
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The driver's available on the Web;  The cables aren't available quite
yet, I don't know if Shier makes them any more, I'm really close to
making adapters that the Newton keyboard would plug into, though.  Need
to borrow a newton keyboard to make sure I have it right, or get a
volunteer who knows a little electronics <G>  Should be able to test
next week, be selling them the week after that, both serial
(Interlink/laplink cables), and the Newton adapters, if all will go well
for a while here!

  Mark

> Tony Tenorio wrote:
>
> Does anyone out there have a Newton Keyboard they want to sell?  I
> believe Shier used to sell one with the proper cable and driver, and
> that is what I'm interested in.  Thanks.
>
> Tony Tenorio

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Date:         Sat, 4 Dec 1999 14:01:11 -0800
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Steve Staloff wrote:
>
> On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Chris Randle wrote:
>
> > pleasant(!), whereas the Psion Series 5 was more intrusive, and
> > likely to attract a "<tut> - not again" from the missus.
> >
> > Another marital question, one for the girls this time: My wife
> > claims that although she can't see the light from the pocket
> > torch, she "knows" that I'm reading my HP and not sleeping and
> > this stops her sleeping. C'mon, this can't be true, can it?
> >
> This question can be answered from my past--before I started palmtopping.
> I was in bed with a friend and had awakened thinking about my then current
> research.  The work was deductive and deeply analytical.  To avoid
> awakening my friend I lay perfectly still, my friend's back turned to me.
> She was still.  After a few minutes of working on the aspect of the
> problem which had awakened me, she suddenly turned to me and said sharply:
> "Would you please stop thinking so hard, and go back to sleep? You're
> keeping me up."  You don't need a palmtop or even finger motion, just a
> sufficiently tuned-in friend combined with otherwise-tuned sufficiently
> careful thoughts.
>
> Steve Staloff
> Portland, Oregon

Used to be able to drag the disabled ex-girlfriend into pretty deep
sleep by really relaxing and "transmitting" that to her;  I was matching
her breathing, and sort of doing a meditation / relaxation, in really
deep rapport with her;  Her disability (Spastic Cerebral Palsy) made it
hard for her to get sleep sometimes (due to pain and muscle cramping),
otherwise.  I could then think, sleep, whatever, at will;  Sometimes
investing a little time can get you more time in return <G>

  Mark

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 00:00:49 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Questions regarding LXTCP

Hi all,

I'm just now getting around to upgrading from LXTCP 1.0 to version
1.1 and have several questions.  I know there is a version 1.2 in
the works, but I don't want a combined LXMTA as I don't use LXNNTP.

1) Version 1.1 of LXPOP scrolled progress messages down the screen
as e-mail messages were received and deleted.  In version 1.2, each
progress message overwrites the previous one as if there is no line
feed.  Is this a new feature?  I liked being able to scan the list
as messages were downloaded.  Is there a way I can set the new
version to act as the previous version did?

2) The new LXPOP parameters in LXTCP.CFG are not very well documented.
What's the difference between the savesent and the nodelete=smtp
parameters?  And what does the minimum free space mean?

  lxpop.savesent=1
  lxpop.nodelete=smtp           ; Don't delete sent mail.
  lxpop.minfree=-1              ; Set to minimum free space.

3) Up until now I'd been using a version of LXTELNET (a beta maybe?)
that would let me ftp from a telnet session on my shell account back
to my palmtop without entering any login or password.  With LXTELNET
v 1.1 I haven't been able to get this going.  I have the parameters
below in my LXTCP.CFG, and a file named passwd.cfg in the working
directory with nothing but a password in it, but it doesn't seem to
work.  I get a message to check password.  Do I need to use the v 1.2
LXPASSWD.EXE somehow?

  ftpd.enable=1
  ftp.passfile=passwd.cfg

4) Okay, last question.  If you've read this far, thanks!  I have a
number of e-mail boxes on many different servers, and at least 3 ways
of dialing up.  I really like Goin' Postals approach to this, but am
sticking with LXTCP because I like the PNR interface better.  The way
I've been handling this is to have 3 CHATSCR files, 2 PPPD.CFG files,
and at least 3 LXTCP.CFG files (with the various smtp and pop3 options
I have, I actually have 8 possible combinations).

At any rate, I've been copying these files back and forth as needed,
and I *still* have to do frequent editing when I'm dealing with hotel
room dial-out prefixes.  I'm thinking of trying to use LXBatch to put
together a batch file that will let me enter the info to be patched
into the various confic files as needed.  Does this sound like a viable
approach?  Does anyone have any other suggestions?

Thanks for any input form the list.  Rod, if you're listening, thanks
for a SUPER package!

Ted

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Date:         Sat, 4 Dec 1999 23:48:17 -0600
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The DOS 5.0 that comes with the LX has the xcopy command, but it
doesn't have the ability to copy only changed files as with newer
versions of DOS. With newer versions, you can use the /d switch to
have it copy only files that have changed, so that it doesn't waste
time or power copying unchanged files.

The LX's DOS has the /d switch, but it requires a date parameter to
specify what is meant by "new".

I've been searching for a suitable substitute, but haven't found one.
Has anyone else?

thanks,

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 01:25:07 -0500
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Subject:      Re: xcopy with "/d" switch for LX?

   >The LX's DOS has the /d switch, but it requires a date parameter to
   >specify what is meant by "new".
   >I've been searching for a suitable substitute, but haven't found
   >one. Has anyone else?
Message-Id: <19991205062505.UFVE27447@12.72.154.196>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 06:25:05 +0000

For a while, I was using the old PC Magazine utility, BAC.COM which does a
brute force copy only after comparing the dates.

Lacks the memory utilization features (as well as everything else) in
xcopy, but it did do the job of file synch by dates nicely, and was tiny.

I don't synch files so much anymore and my copy of bac has dropped out of
sight, but I'm sure it's easy to locate, as are a host of other xcopy clones
I've heard of but never used.

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Date:         Sat, 4 Dec 1999 23:28:01 -0800
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On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Curtis Cameron wrote:

> I've been searching for a suitable substitute, but haven't found one.
> Has anyone else?

You could use the Archive attribute and then use xcopy /a or /m.  When you
copy files the first time, do an "attrib -a /s" command in the root of the
drive.  Then, next time, use xcopy /a/s to copy all files that have been
changed.  The /m slash does this also, but then removes the Archive
attribute for each file after copying, so you won't have to do it
manually.

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Date:         Sat, 4 Dec 1999 23:07:49 -0800
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              Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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Stephan Goeldi wrote:
>
> >Joking in multi-cultural environments really is a minefield
>
> Well, it depends on how many frustrated people read your
> jokes. If I feel offended I would answer you off-list or shut
> up. It has to be a really bad thing to flame you for a joke.
> By the way: there were some smileys on the answer to
> your joke. I think, smileys and (g)'s are overused.
>
> -goe-

I find people probably misunderstand each other oftener than they think,
so I tend to use <G> to explicitly set the "tone" of my post as light
teasing instead of the other things it could be taken as, such as
sarcasm, etc.  Text can be so easily taken however the viewer feels like
taking it, without adding clues...

  Mark

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 02:19:11 -0600
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              Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
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Curtis Cameron stated incorrectly: "The DOS 5.0 that comes
with the LX has the xcopy command, but it doesn't have the
ability to copy only changed files."

I've used the command xcopy  /M /S  to copy files with the
archive bit set (This means that the file has been changed.)
The /M turns the bit off so you won't copy the file unless
it's changed. (/S does subdirs.)

My pet peeve is that the database files have the bit set
merely by opening and closing them even if you don't make
any changes. None of the   xcopy clones that I tried could
deal with this. The database files are always included.
(OTOH: it doesn't hurt to make backups of the databases
unless they've become corrupted: that's where dbCheck works
its magic. "Did somebody say 'McThank You?'")

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 02:19:31 -0600
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Microworld's Logo is pretty good.

There are at least three different LOGO interpreters that
run on the LX. Check the SUPER site at www.palmtop.net.
Search for LOGO. One of the past issues of PTP has an
extensive how-to article on using Ladybug Logo.

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 15:41:31 +0700
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Let me know when the Newton adapter is ready.  I'll be one of your first
customers.  Thanks

Mark Willis wrote:


>The driver's available on the Web;  The cables aren't available quite
>yet, I don't know if Shier makes them any more, I'm really close to
>making adapters that the Newton keyboard would plug into, though.  Need
>to borrow a newton keyboard to make sure I have it right, or get a
>volunteer who knows a little electronics <G>  Should be able to test
>next week, be selling them the week after that, both serial
>(Interlink/laplink cables), and the Newton adapters, if all will go well
>for a while here!
>
>  Mark
>
>> Tony Tenorio wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone out there have a Newton Keyboard they want to sell?  I
>> believe Shier used to sell one with the proper cable and driver, and
>> that is what I'm interested in.  Thanks.
>>
>> Tony Tenorio
>
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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 04:49:35 -0500
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You wrote:



"Yes, I was thinking about it before buying 100Lx and here in Lt I could=
 not find any 200LX and so I bought 100. Considering about next machine=
 everything depends on price.:-)"


Is 100 dollars too much?


You can ask David Sargeant off list where you can find the drivers to=
 your 100LX,or just ask again,sometime you have to be little pushy on=
 the list to get answers.


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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 11:23:39 -0000
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              David Eggins <david.eggins@USA.NET>
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Hello there.

I was wondering if anyone has heard of this roumor that Compact flash cards
have to be USB enabled in order to be read by a USB CF reader.

I know on the Lexar Media web page they mention this, but I think it is due
to their card reader being incredibly simple, and all the smarts are in the
cards.

I would believe that if I where to buy a normal USB CF reader, then I would
be able to read my "non USB enabled" Simpletech 48mb card.

Is this the case?

I am thinking about getting a CF and Smartmedia in one reader. Anyone got
anything good/bad to say about this brand?  It is 60 Australian dollars
cheaper than the Smartmedia CF only reader.  Not quite as nice looking
though.



Thank You.
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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 13:20:14 +0100
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 4 Dec 1999 12:37:17 -0800, Feher Tamas <etomcat@EGON.GYALOGLO.HU> wrote:

<Snipped some here and there>

> could almost double
> his/her data bandwith by using TWO mobile-phones simultane-
> ously and achieve 2x9,6 or 9,6+14,4=24kbps speed.

Interesting..but the development in this line of equipment is so high
that when(if) you get a solution that works there is a better solution
out there with even higher speeds..

> One phone is a Nokia 2110 (for OGO700LX) or compatible, which
> goes into Datacard. Other is a 8110 or so, hanging on IRDA.
> You dial up the same ISP with both phones.

Probably a typo..the 8110 does not have irda..I think you mean the
8810..

> How many of you carry two GSM phones simultaneously?
> (Plus a GPS, beeper, ham radio, Iridium, INMARSAT, etc.)

Well you need two phones with subscription+ datasubscription. I think
this will be too expencive and troublesom setup. I think the best way
is to be satisfied with 9600 now on gsm and see what the future
brings. The new Nokia Datacard supports higher speeds but draws too
much power to be used in the hplx..

As for new technology we here in Norway will probably have GPRS by the
end of year 2000(approx). This is a packet technology which will
provide 115kbps.

And then there is "EDGE" which will provide approx. 384kbps. (Mainly
for US). We will instead go for UMTS with 2mbps in approx year 2002..

UMTS will be a international standard which will also be used in the US
(still some frequency problems to solve over there (As Avi wrote was the
case regarding Gsm too..)

And the list goes on with 3G and WCDMA which will come in the
future..there will be more and more bandwidth availible for handheld
equipment in the future..

I can settle for 9600 for a while and then for my next phone go for a
GPRS phone.. But I then have to have a more powerfull handheld to
process all that data..Morphy here I come :-))

> What happens if two phones work, less than an armlenght apart
> from each other? Do they get jammed?

Not a problem. They get one timeslot each so they do not interfere with
each other in any way.

Btw has anybody tried to use their gsm phones while driving above 200
km/h? You should then drive faster then your timeslot and therefor not
be able to use your gsm phone..could anybody down in Germany on their
"Autobahn" try this just for fun :-))

(Not a big problem for me..yet. I have never felt a need to call
anyone when traveling at max speed on my motorbike (260km/h :-)) Hmm
I guess I deserve to be in Jeff the Cop`s backseat playing Freecell
:-))

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Subject:      Re: Disks. disks...

   >or just ask again,sometime you have to be little
   >pushy on the list to get answers.
Message-Id: <19991205130211.KZRF1865@12.72.155.138>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 13:02:11 +0000

And then again, a bit of patience helps sometimes too.

I agree with the suggestion to occasionally repeat your questions, or to
direct an email to specific individuals from time to time.

But even the regulars on the list have a hard time keeping up with
legitimate questions when the noise level and fluff rises, and if we then
don't hear the questions it's not necessarily because we don't want to
answer, but because maybe we didn't hear the question (or don't know the
answer).

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 08:35:19 -0500
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Stephan Goeldi wrote:


"No. It is a real law that is comparable with things on
the Internet. You can read more about this Metcalfe
on the website of Jakob Nielsen (www.useit.com)."

OK,I will have a look at that site.I take it with real law you must=
 mean a law formulated in mathematics?


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Martin Bergvill wrote:


"As for new technology we here in Norway will probably have GPRS by=
 the end of year 2000(approx). This is a packet technology which willprovid=
e 115kbps."


Have you had any discussions in Norway about bluetooth?

According to Ericsson bluetooth will first work  well together with=
 GPRS and ofcourse WAP.

And also that before the year 2002,100 millions mobilephones will have=
 bluetooth.

(Have you seen the stockrace Ericsson has made this year?More than 100%=
 )

Bluetooth PC cards  exists already,atleast as prototypes.
Don't have any hardwarefacts,though.But it would be great if
it could work with the LX.


Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 09:29:57 -0700
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> 3) Up until now I'd been using a version of LXTELNET (a beta maybe?)
> that would let me ftp from a telnet session on my shell account back
> to my palmtop without entering any login or password.  With LXTELNET
> v 1.1 I haven't been able to get this going.  I have the parameters
> below in my LXTCP.CFG, and a file named passwd.cfg in the working
> directory with nothing but a password in it, but it doesn't seem to
> work.  I get a message to check password.  Do I need to use the v 1.2
> LXPASSWD.EXE somehow?
>
>   ftpd.enable=1
>   ftp.passfile=passwd.cfg

This one had me stumped for a while too. If you change the line to read

    ftpd.passfile...

it should work, assuming everything else is set right.


> 4) Okay, last question.  If you've read this far, thanks!  I have a
> number of e-mail boxes on many different servers, and at least 3 ways
<snip>
> room dial-out prefixes.  I'm thinking of trying to use LXBatch to put
> together a batch file that will let me enter the info to be patched
> into the various confic files as needed.  Does this sound like a viable
> approach?  Does anyone have any other suggestions?

You could do something like the following.

Have one batch file, say pppon.bat which you run like

   pppon config1


In the batch, it branches depending on %1 and would then call pppd like

   pppd file config1.cfg

where config1.cfg is a pppd.cfg file. Note: if you have a file
named pppd.cfg it will still read it also.


In config1.cfg, chat uses the file option for the chat script

   connect chat -fconfig1.scr


Finally, the batch file sets the lxtcp.cfg variable as

   set lxtcp.cfg=lxtcpcf1.cfg


This is from memory, so verify the syntax from the docs.

HTH
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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 18:23:59 +0200
Reply-To:     Alchemija <alchoma@is.lt>
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Hello all patriots,

With the help of the group (especially David) now I have those PCMCIA
disks running!
So not Scott and his disks were at fault. Only the lack of proper
drivers and knowledge :-(

Thanks again!


Best regards,
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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:36:44 +0100
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@01019FREENET.DE>
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Hi Peniel,

> For David and anyone else interested in the VDE editor, version
1.9
> came out a few days ago.  Just found it, and haven't tried it out yet,
> but according to the docs it can now handle large (~600K) files.  It's
> at:

By coincidence I too found it a view days ago and already
installed it. I did not try the split file (vde still makes some
compromises with large files) feature, but what I yet like most is
that the cursor left/right jumps to the prev/next line again.

cheers,
Reinhard


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At 05:36 PM 12/2/99 +0600, you wrote:
>David Sargeant stated that...
>
>    >I can AT LAST take notes in a darkened
>    >lecture hall.  The other day I did some budget work while at the
>    >movie theater watching "Double Jeopardy."

>I can see it now...HP-LX owners will become pariahs like cell phone
>abusers in theaters, restaurants, etc. Those of us with non-backlighted
>(or is it backlit?) units will have to bear the underserved burden of bad
>reputations developed by others. Local governmnets will pass ordinances
>banning HP-LX use. Restaurants will ahve discrete signs saying ..."Don't
>backlight here please."

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 08:51:47 +1000
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Subject:      Re: Microsoft plan to eliminate DOS support from Windows2000

Patrick West writes:
> WarpCast News Service wrote:
> (Source: Tom Nadeau (os2headquarters@mindspring.com))
> > The December 1999 edition of "The Warped Perspective" at  OS/2
> > Headquarters is now at:  http://www.os2hq.com/
> > This month's edition discusses the Microsoft plan to eliminate DOS
> > (and perhaps Windows 3.X) support from Windows2000, cutting off the
> > market for thousands of small ISVs.

The most pertinent question here for us is whether all our backup methods
will work under WIN2000 when we are forced to change over to using it.
Has anyone on the list used WIN2000 and checked whether Transfile will work
under it or CPACK?


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davidb@cimatron.co.il
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I am running win2000 on one of my computers, and transfile works without a
hitch.  I have not tried cpack yet, though.

  -Agrajag
>
>Patrick West writes:
>> WarpCast News Service wrote:
>> (Source: Tom Nadeau (os2headquarters@mindspring.com))
>> > The December 1999 edition of "The Warped Perspective" at  OS/2
>> > Headquarters is now at:  http://www.os2hq.com/
>> > This month's edition discusses the Microsoft plan to eliminate DOS
>> > (and perhaps Windows 3.X) support from Windows2000, cutting off the
>> > market for thousands of small ISVs.
>
>The most pertinent question here for us is whether all our backup methods
>will work under WIN2000 when we are forced to change over to using it.
>Has anyone on the list used WIN2000 and checked whether Transfile will work
>under it or CPACK?
>
>
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>davidb@netmedia.net.il
>davidb@cimatron.co.il
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Subject:      Re: Questions regarding LXTCP

Theodore Heise writes:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm just now getting around to upgrading from LXTCP 1.0 to version
> 1.1 and have several questions.  I know there is a version 1.2 in
> the works, but I don't want a combined LXMTA as I don't use LXNNTP.
>

I dont use nntp either but I prefer to keep up to date with Lxtcp
so I am using 1.2 beta 7. (I will be installing1.2b8 tonight)

> 1) Version 1.1 of LXPOP scrolled progress messages down the screen
> as e-mail messages were received and deleted.  In version 1.2, each
> progress message overwrites the previous one as if there is no line
> feed.  Is this a new feature?  I liked being able to scan the list
> as messages were downloaded.  Is there a way I can set the new
> version to act as the previous version did?

I dont remember it scrolling down the screen. I do remember that it would
overwrite the message received with message deleted without wiping the previous
messaage, so sometimes the display appeared incorrect. What Rod did, if I
remember corrctly wsas to clear to the end of line on each displayed line.

>
> 2) The new LXPOP parameters in LXTCP.CFG are not very well documented.
> What's the difference between the savesent and the nodelete=smtp
> parameters?  And what does the minimum free space mean?

Minimum free space on your mailbox drive to keep on downloading mail.
If you go below this ... Stop.

nodelete = having sent the mail KEEP the file and dont delete it.
savesent = the files named outgoing.s* appear in the "sent replies" folder.

> 4) ...I have a
> number of e-mail boxes on many different servers, and at least 3 ways
> of dialing up.  ...
> ... 3 CHATSCR files, 2 PPPD.CFG files, and at least 3 LXTCP.CFG files
> (with the various smtp and pop3 options
> I have, I actually have 8 possible combinations).
>

Here is most of my dial.bat which can take up to 2 command line parameters.
The first parameter is the cfg for the ISP and the second is the chat script
which dials. This lets me call multiple ISPS with multiple phone numbers
depending on how it's called.
It shouldnt be a problem to set it up for multiple WATTCTP.CFG files and
get it to swap between them without hanging up.
@echo off
if '%1'=='-h' goto HANGUP
if '%1'=='-H' goto HANGUP
if '%1'=='' goto DIALER
goto DIALER

:HANGUP
echo Closing Connection...
termin 0x60
echo.
rem if exist ip-up.bat del ip-up.bat
serctl /o
set lxtcp.cfg=
set wattcp.cfg=
set myip=
set remip=
set netmask=
set peermru=
goto END

:DIALER
set lxtcp.cfg=a:\lxtcp\wattcp.cfg
set wattcp.cfg=a:\lxtcp
serctl /w
if '%2' == '' goto DIRECT
echo Dialing ISP %1 ON POP %2 . . .
epppd file %1.cfg connect "chat -f %2.cmd"
if errorlevel 1 goto CONNERR
echo Connection succesful
call ip-up.bat
echo my_ip=%myip% >curr.cfg
echo netmask=%netmask% >>curr.cfg

goto END

:DIRECT
echo Connecting using %1 . . .
epppd file %1.cfg
if errorlevel 1 goto CONNERR
echo Connection succesful
goto END

:CONNERR
echo Connection failed...
pause
goto END

:SYNERR
echo SYNTAX ERROR...
echo Dialing syntax is DIAL cfgfile cmdfile
echo %0 %1 %2
pause

:END

Give it a try!


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Subject:      Re: xcopy with "/d" switch for LX?

Ed Keefe writes:
> My pet peeve is that the database files have the bit set
> merely by opening and closing them even if you don't make
> any changes.

It changes the date & time stamp of the file as well so there is no way of
knowing that the file has been changed aside from comparing it..
So you might as well back it up anyway.


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Hello Fellow LXer's et.al.

Since my 8M 200 is too small to hold my copy of the Collins Electronic
English Dictionary, I had kept it on my Simple 16M A: drive. It always
worked perfectly from that location.

Upon receipt of Scott's 20M disk I did a few simple tests of the disk
and reported to this group that I had experienced no problems. Now it
came time to copy the dictionary over to Scott's disk which I did by
first copying from the Simple disk (not the Collins CD) to my desktop
PC. From there I swapped the Simple disk for Scott's and reverse
copied those files from the PC to the LX.

I can't believe I wouldn't have tested it when I completed the copy
but I just don't remember testing it. Anyway, a couple of days later I
had occasion to use the dictionary and when I called it by pressing
ENTER on the icon as I always did, it came up flashing between a
normal dictionary screen and a black screen about twice a second.
Pressing <ESC> to exit and then re-starting it made no difference.
Re-booting (<CTRL><ALT><DELETE>) made no difference either.

Since I could see the screen about every half second, I decided to
enter a word to see if the dictionary itself functioned. Entering a
word (any word) and pressing enter presented me with a dialog box
which said *The speed data does not correspond to this version*. I
have no idea what that message means.

At this point I'm starting to think that maybe the copy operation went
south and even though the file byte counts matched, I knew you could
corrupt a file and have the byte count remain the same. So I erased
the contents of the DICT directory on Scott's disk, inserted
the Collins CD in my PC, hooked up my HP power supply and using the
Connectivity Pack once again, marked and copied all the necessary
files, AGAIN.

This time when pressing ENTER on the icon, the LX screen blanks except
for a blinking cursor in the upper left corner and will not respond to
any keypresses except <CTRL><SHIFT><ON>.

Sorry for the excessive bandwidth but anybody have any ideas?

TIA,
Jack LARosa
Alabama, USA

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 16:25:50 +0100
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Subject:      Re: Fluff: (total fluff) backlight AND Thanks (to the list)

Hiya Tim,

> Umm, one question though for Franklin:
> Is the "(Any young Cleopatras around?)" question meant to stir up any who
> think they're Cleopatra reincarnated, folks channeling her spirit, or are
> you just asking if there are any cute girls on the list?  <grin -- *NOT*
> making fun of you ... disclaimer.... disclaimer.... disclaimer.... Heck, I
> may've met her exponentially squared granddaughter, but I think she's
> taken....>

It was a bit tongue in cheek. I was hoping to flush out the believers, stir
up some mud and of course checking out the chicks. :-)

Nathalie is a good Cleo, but I doubt she believes in reincarnation...

But of course, this is totally fluffy!

br

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 15:19:38 -0500
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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> Date:    Fri, 3 Dec 1999 22:20:32 -0800
> From:    Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
> Subject: Microsoft plan to eliminate DOS support from Windows2000
>
> WarpCast News Service wrote:
> (Source: Tom Nadeau (os2headquarters@mindspring.com))
> > The December 1999 edition of "The Warped Perspective" at  OS/2
> > Headquarters is now at:  http://www.os2hq.com/
> > This month's edition discusses the Microsoft plan to eliminate DOS
> > (and perhaps Windows 3.X) support from Windows2000, cutting off the
> > market for thousands of small ISVs.
>
They're running out of time to do it. Release Candidate 3 supports
*important* DOS apps (i.e., I was able to run the tools in CPACK and
transfer files between my 200 and my Omnibook 800 also *not
supported* via serial, open appointment, phonebook, and database
files) Notice: all the article *really* says is that MS is removing the
*prompt*, and that's not, as of RC3, true. Under
"Programs|Accessories|Command Prompt", I got a Windows 2000 command
prompt for Microsoft Windows 2000 Version 5.00.2183. The Omnibook was
upgraded from W95 to W98 to W2K betas 2, 3, RC1, RC2, Build2176, and
RC3. User Suspend works, but I auto-hibernate. I also ran the HP-PIM
apps which came with my OB600 on the W2K OB800; again-no problems.

Next question - how many *serious*  developers *for the desktop* are
still developing for DOS or Windows 3.x? They've had 5 years to
transition for pete's sake! People on the W2K beta newsgroups are
running Quake & Doom on their machines! Consider the source of this
nonsense. MSDN's latest newsletter discusses *what* MS has done -
eliminated the ability for a 32-bit app. to "flat-thunk" into a 16 bit
app. If you don't understand thunking, you've probably got more serious
problems with your app already.

Conclusion - the article was written by someone who a) is uninformed
about W2K, b) didn't check their facts, and c) as we read further down
has an agenda themselves every bit as pernicious as they accuse MS of -
just no real native vendor support.

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 14:45:27 -0600
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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, David Becher wrote:

> > 1) Version 1.1 of LXPOP scrolled progress messages down the screen
> > as e-mail messages were received and deleted.  In version 1.2, each
> > progress message overwrites the previous one as if there is no line
> > feed.
>
> I dont remember it scrolling down the screen. I do remember that it would
> overwrite the message received with message deleted without wiping the previous
> messaage, so sometimes the display appeared incorrect. What Rod did, if I
> remember corrctly wsas to clear to the end of line on each displayed line.


DOH!  I got the version numbers wrong.  That should be v 1.0 and
1.1.


> nodelete = having sent the mail KEEP the file and dont delete it.
> savesent = the files named outgoing.s* appear in the "sent replies" folder.

So savesent puts it in "Sent replies" and nodelete leaves it
in the "Mail replies" folder?  If you set both you'll have 2
copies of sent mail--do I have that right?

Thanks for the answers and the batch file.  I'll give it some
thought.

Ted

--
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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 22:00:06 +0100
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Hi, infrared orinters,

I print a worksheet via IR to a HP6MP printer. Examining the
sheet I see that the printer starts printing from the
beginning up to about the 3rd Lotus column of the seventh
line. Then it starts all over from the beginning (A1) up to
the seventh line again, then changes page and prints with
standard font (Courier 10) instead of the fonts established in
the setup command, always printing only seven lines
and starting all over again.

When I print to my Pentax pocket jet with exactly the same
settings apart from the port (which I set to No.2 IR in Lotus),
it prints OK.

The printer works completely normally with IR and Memo,
obeying to all the setup commands.

I have set the speed to 9600 as usual within Lotus (port to
No. 4=IR of course). What I do not understand is why the
printer starts several times from the beginning, there is
no command for several copies, AFAIK.

Does anybody have any idea how to print the entire print area
just once ?

Thank you very much
Winfried

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 15:23:20 -0600
Reply-To:     Maynard Riley <maynard@interaccess.com>
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I have to disagree with you, Jon.

Most basic data processing/manipulating applications, including
text, derive little if any benefit from the GUI environment.
And there is a long history of a great many small specialized
data processing apps for which there is no return benefit in
porting or rewriting them to run in Windows, which is no small
task BTW. Even the standard apps of word processing, database,
and spreadsheet are much more productive in DOS; the only thing
GUI and time has added to them is in a fancier, easier,
reporting presentation, and device drivers.

By way of example, how many mainstream Win text processors can
block a column of tabulated text? How do you print a sorted
directory listing from Win?

In short, there are a great many, very valuable, things which
can most easily be done from the command line, and with simply
coded batch, rexx, perl, or dos programs. And they aren't just
power user utilities. If you use VDE on your palmtop, why not
use it on your WinBox? Do any of the MS Office apps provide
script recording as easily or usefully?

I'm sticking with OS/2!

        `~Maynard


On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 15:19:38 -0500, Jon Barrett wrote:

>Next question - how many *serious*  developers *for the desktop* are
>still developing for DOS or Windows 3.x? They've had 5 years to
>transition for pete's sake! People on the W2K beta newsgroups are
>running Quake & Doom on their machines! Consider the source of this
>nonsense. MSDN's latest newsletter discusses *what* MS has done -
>eliminated the ability for a 32-bit app. to "flat-thunk" into a 16 bit
>app. If you don't understand thunking, you've probably got more serious
>problems with your app already.

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If anyone interested in a 95LX, I just listed this on eBay:
Item #214568760

Link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=214568760

Thanks,

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Date:         Sat, 4 Dec 1999 20:15:06 -0500
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On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 00:33:00 -0500 John J Vanderstel
<j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM> writes:
> Hi David,
>
> In reference to Buddy:
>
> >> It runs on my german lx, too. Not all features work, but the in  my
> >> opinion most valuable feature does: smartcaps. I could not live
> >> without it.
> >
> >I agree.  In fact, what I'd like to see is a standalone SmartCaps
TSR.
> >Buddy is nicw, but we could save lots of memory with only
> SmartCaps.
>
> Ditto!

Quicklx by Andreas Garzoto is such an aplication.   It is not quite as
smart as Word for Windows, but it can be configured to catch any and all
common spelling mistakes that you like.   You just need to be careful no
to put too many similar words on the init file, and not to let it get too
large, so as not to slow it down.   Hint: erase all the supplied
suggestions in the file which you know you don't commonly use.   That
will give you more space to add what you like.   One of the best features
is that it can complete not just words, but phrases too!

By the way, it is not free.

Domingo

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 16:04:09 -0600
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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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Some time ago, the PTP had an article on LOGO.  I don't have access to my
PTP's right now, so I can't give you an exact issue, but maybe there is a
list of back issues on Thaddeus's web site.  I also seem to recall that
there were free versions of LOGO available.

Good luck.
J. P. Grenert
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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:53:16 +1100
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Subject:      Re: Backlight in Europe
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I thoughit a GPS told you your position on the globe, not on the screen
(unless you're standing on it)...

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Subject: Re: Backlight in Europe



On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> This Garmin what is it?A mobilphone,a pocketcomputer or just a light
> organizer as the Palms?

It's a GPS unit -- global positioning system receiver.  It receives
signals from satellites and tells you your position on the screen.
Not a phone, PDA, or anything high-end like that.  Just a device to help
you find out where on earth you are.

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 23:26:54 +0100
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>you must mean a law formulated in mathematics?

Exactly. And with money.

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 16:02:30 -0800
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On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Rick Thompson wrote:

> I thoughit a GPS told you your position on the globe, not on the
> screen (unless you're standing on it)...

<smack>

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 16:24:50 -0800
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On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Ed Keefe wrote:

> My pet peeve is that the database files have the bit set merely by
> opening and closing them even if you don't make any changes. None of
> the xcopy clones that I tried could deal with this. The database files
> are always included. (OTOH: it doesn't hurt to make backups of the
> databases unless they've become corrupted: that's where dbCheck works
> its magic. "Did somebody say 'McThank You?'")

What if you view them with an external application like the one on SUPER
... DBVIEW or whatever?  That might be a good idea if it doesn't update
the archive bit...

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Roger,

You could, but it will take some "kludging". Build two wattcp files. In the
first one, don't put any of your smtp info in there and cclxpop will not be
able to send any messages, but still should download your pop3 mail. After you
run ccLXPOP the first time, run it again, but with the smtp data there.

Let me know if this works:

Here is a sample bat:

epppd
copy nosmtp.cfg wattcp.cfg
cclxpop
copy smtpdata.cfg wattcp.cfg
cclxpop
termin 0x60


Don't know if this will work, but don't know why it wouldn't either.

Brian




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Hi Brian,
Is there a way to reverse the "send then recieve" process to "recieve then
send"? Cause I need to log into Yahoo's pop server before I can send mail thru
it's SMTP server.
Thanks and looking forward to try the new version.

Roger

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:50:36 -0800
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On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, D Dv wrote:

> Quicklx by Andreas Garzoto is such an aplication.  It is not quite as
> smart as Word for Windows, but it can be configured to catch any and
> all common spelling mistakes that you like.  You just need to be
> careful no to put too many similar words on the init file, and not to
> let it get too large, so as not to slow it down.  Hint: erase all the
> supplied suggestions in the file which you know you don't commonly
> use.  That will give you more space to add what you like.  One of the
> best features is that it can complete not just words, but phrases too!

Um.. I don't understand.  I know exactly what Quick/LX is and what it
does, but what does it have to do with SmartCaps?  And what does catching
spelling mistakes have to do with it?  SmartCaps is the feature of Buddy
that automatically capitalizes letters at the beginning of a new sentence,
or the word I, and the like.

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> The DOS 5.0 that comes with the LX has the xcopy command, but it
> I've been searching for a suitable substitute, but haven't found one.
> Has anyone else?

I have used pcopy which is shareware and probably hard to track down
registration.  It actually allows syncing by deleting files on the
"backup" machine which are no longer on the Primary machine.  I use to
use it with dc/dcs95 from the HP95 cpack.  But it became flaky under
Win95.

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Sun,  5 Dec 1999 23:22:40 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

   The Monthly HPLX-L logs for Nov are available on the HPLX-L Command
   Center Site list.hplx.net

   Reindexing of the archives will occur sometime after midnight EST
   (GMT-5) tonight (so the INDEX of messages for DEC & NOV will not
   function correctly till then)

   If there are any other problems drop me a note

   Cheers,

*
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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:14:15 +1000
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Subject:      Re: Microsoft plan to eliminate DOS support from Windows2000

Jon Barrett writes:
) Notice: all the article *really* says is that MS is removing the
> *prompt*, and that's not, as of RC3, true. Under
> "Programs|Accessories|Command Prompt", I got a Windows 2000 command
> prompt for Microsoft Windows 2000 Version 5.00.2183.

I might add to this that there are MANY win32 "console" applications
which have been written both by Microsoft and other software houses.
If win2000 is provided without a console I can imagine that it would take
10 minutes for someone else to provide one. Today there are also Unix type
shells which run under Win32.




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   >> My pet peeve is that the database files have the bit set
   >> merely by opening and closing them even if you don't make
   >> any changes.
Message-Id: <19991206054911.TDIS959@12.72.154.181>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 05:49:11 +0000

   >It changes the date & time stamp of the file as well so there is no
   >way of knowing that the file has been changed aside from comparing
   >it.. So you might as well back it up anyway.

OTOH, people running Dbcheck on a regular basis might have an added
incentive not to backup if there's no need, provided Dbcheck would be able
to note if there's been a change or not.

I'm not sure if Curtis' analysis goes to the byte level (probably just
does record level checking), but if it did, a possibility would be for
Dbcheck to do some kind of checksum on the database and log that checksum
for comparison the next time around.  If the checksum matches, the db is
unchanged regardless of the archive bit or date flag.

This is conjecture since I don't do databases nor checksums... and given
the added work, it may be wiser (as already suggested) to just do the
backup.

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Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 23:03:16 -0800
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It's pretty much common knowledge that the palmtop's database engine has a
limitation of about 5000 records for a database.  How does this affect the
Appointment Book?  Will it go south at about 5000 appointments, or will it
continue indefinitely?

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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 11:32:15 +0100
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I've started using DBCHECK on my database files (currently I'm
using DBCHECK 1.61). All files check out OK except one, the bad
one is an ADB file I have created with the appointment book on the
HP 200 LX. At the beginning of each month, I use File -> Remove
to extract the appointments of the previous month into an ADB
archive I call MONAT.ADB (Monat is the German word for month).
This is the DBCHECK report for November's MONAT.ADB:

MONAT.ADB:
File type: Appointment
...
Data error: record number 34 doesn't exist
.
1 db header, 0 card def
0 categories, 27 fields defined
0 view point defs, 1 view point tables
2 smart clips, 1 lookup tables
58 data records, 37 with notes
Found records:     131     Garbage records:   0
Expected records:  282     Deleted records: 152
Error: a data record contained an invalid value.
MONAT.ADB had errors.

The appointment book application can open the file without any
problem. I'm using the HP Connectivity Pack to translate the file
into comma-delimited format. This also works alright. However,
if I use the HP 200 LX appointment book to create a new file, say
MONAT11.ADB and try to merge MONAT.ADB into the new file,
this fails with message "Memory requirement exceeds application's
internal limit".

BTW: Exactly the same happened with October's MONAT.ADB,
only there were two non-existing records instead of one.

Any idea, anyone?

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> I am planning an
> update to ccLXPOP to cause it to basically act like PNRTI, and use LXMTA as a
> basis for downloading.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Brian
>

I am using ccLXPOP and the latest beta of LXMTA together and they work fine
for me. My email server is IMAP-only, but I like the ccmail interface, so at
present I use ccLXPOP to send my mail via my SMTP server, then use LXMTA to
grab my IMAP mail, then call ccLXPOP with the -offline switch to index the
downloaded IMAP mail into a ccmail-readable file. As long as I don't have a
pop.server= entry in my wattcp.cfg then ccLXPOP won't try to receive mail,
and you can tell LXMTA to receive only, without connecting to an SMTP
server. You have to remember to delete the incoming.mai file after ccLXPOP
has indexed it, otherwise it gets re-indexed next time. I was impressed at
how well these two programs work together. Both authors have done a terrific
job.

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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 06:42:08 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Questions regarding LXTCP

Mike Kopplin writes:
> > v 1.1 I haven't been able to get this going.  I have the parameters
> > below in my LXTCP.CFG, and a file named passwd.cfg in the working
> > directory with nothing but a password in it, but it doesn't seem to
> > work.  I get a message to check password.
> >
> >   ftpd.enable=1
> >   ftp.passfile=passwd.cfg
>
> This one had me stumped for a while too. If you change the line to read
>
>     ftpd.passfile...
>
> it should work, assuming everything else is set right.

That makes sense and I tried it--unfortunately, it still didn't
work.  I tried the password in passwd.cfg with and without quotes
and with and without a line feed at the end.  Still got the message

  530 Login failed, check password.


> You could do something like the following.
>
> Have one batch file, say pppon.bat which you run like
>
>    pppon config1

Thanks for the suggestions here.  I'll see what I can come up with.

Ted

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I may be speaking heresy here, but I do not find the built in DB program
intuitive or easy to use. I have been playing with an old copy of Works to
keep a simple database and it does everything I need. Still, I long for
something small, simple, and that can print simple reports. Any advice?

Thanks,
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On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Dennis Vest wrote:

> I may be speaking heresy here, but I do not find the built in DB program
> intuitive or easy to use. I have been playing with an old copy of Works to
> keep a simple database and it does everything I need. Still, I long for
> something small, simple, and that can print simple reports. Any advice?

I've always liked PC-File very much.  It goes way back and should
be available on most DOS repositories.  One search found version
6.5 at a Simtel echo: http://www.qdnet.pl  It appears that version
7.0 is the current offering at $130 US.  I've used version 5.01 for
many years--there are some things it does better than the latest
and greatest (?!) Paradox.  Version 5.01 runs fine on my double
speed 32M 200LX.

Ted

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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 13:58:43 MEST
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PC-File. Freeware database app with standard dBase/Foxpro format databases. Makes
reports, has good scripting language. I used it a lot in the past. Forgot the
details.

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Reply-To:     Alchemija <alchoma@is.lt>
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From:         Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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Alchemija wrote:


"With the help of the group (especially David) now I have those
PCMCIA disks running! So not Scott and his disks were at fault.Best=
 regards,
 Alchemija"

On the behalf of Alchemija I thank you too,David.

Let's hope that Scott encloses instructions where to find and how to=
 install drivers next time.


Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> PC-File. Freeware database app...

PC-File was originally shareware.  Some of the early versions may
have been released as freeware, but I think more recent versions
are still shareware or even commercial.

Ted

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>PC-File. Freeware database app with standard dBase/Foxpro format databases.
Makes
>reports, has good scripting language. I used it a lot in the past. Forgot the

>details.

Oh I forgot: it is on super.

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Date: Sunday, December 05, 1999 4:23 PM
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>I have to disagree with you, Jon.
>
>Most basic data processing/manipulating applications, including
>text, derive little if any benefit from the GUI environment.

That's irrelevant to the issue at hand. The false claim was made that
W2K
was abandoning DOS and W3.1 apps. Consumers, who after all buy most
machines, prefer a GUI/WYSIWYG environment regardless of whether it
could
be done more efficiently in a character-based environment. The market
has
shown this. Any efficiency losses have been counterbalanced by faster
processors,
cheap RAM, and cheap storage. In any event, the real question isn't
whether
the *application* benefits from a GUI, it's whether the *user* benefits
from it.

>And there is a long history of a great many small specialized
>data processing apps for which there is no return benefit in
>porting or rewriting them to run in Windows, which is no small
>task BTW.

I don't dispute  that converting an app to take full advantage of *any*
GUI
is non-trivial; I never claimed that it was. I did contend that anyone
selling a *mainstream* application has had 5 years to port to another
environment, be it Win32, OS/2, xNIX, whatever. If it's a horizontal
application, they have every reason to port, using available tools
which
have been steadily improving, but some of which have been around from
the
days of Windows 3.x. Vertical, limited-market applications can usually
justify retention of a legacy platform until the next release, assuming
the
vendor isn't blown away by someone else who made the jump first.

>Even the standard apps of word processing, database,
>and spreadsheet are much more productive in DOS; the only thing
>GUI and time has added to them is in a fancier, easier,
>reporting presentation, and device drivers.
>
Which are major gains for both the end-users who don't have to worry
about
inconsistent operation, and the developers, who only have to write to
one
interface. Further, to quote, I believe, Jerry Pournelle, "All
computers
wait at the same speed". How many people can keep up with WordStar 3.x,
Word Perfect 5.x, or Word  for DOS on a PII/366?

>By way of example, how many mainstream Win text processors can
>block a column of tabulated text?

I only have access to WinWord 6, 8 (Word97), and 9 (Word 2000) at
home -
*ALL* of them do, either with the mouse or from the keyboard (Alt-drag
or
Ctrl-Shift-F8, then mark with arrows). If WordPerfect or Word Pro
don't, I
suggest you ask Corel or IBM why they don't consider that an important
feature. It took me less than a minute to find using on-line help.

>How do you print a sorted
>directory listing from Win?
>
I don't. I don't need to, since I can sort in Explorer on-screen, and
scroll around as needed. I did need to with DOS since I didn't have an
adequate
screen buffer.

>In short, there are a great many, very valuable, things which
>can most easily be done from the command line, and with simply
>coded batch, rexx, perl, or dos programs. And they aren't just
>power user utilities. If you use VDE on your palmtop, why not

Scripting tools, including perl, Javascript, VBA, and, I believe, Rexx,
are
available in GUI versions for Windows too.

>use it on your WinBox? Do any of the MS Office apps provide
>script recording as easily or usefully?

Unfortunately, I work in customer support - I don't have the luxury of
repeating tasks. That said, VBA has a recording mode which works like
the
200LX macro tool.

>
>I'm sticking with OS/2!
>

Good luck when Merced ships! Who's going to port it? You haven't
answered
the basic issue - the inaccuracy of the claim that MS was eliminating
DOS
and Win3.1 support. It's there today, and working.

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

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Hi!

Does anybody know an example C-source code of a game, which works with tiles,
like sokoban or such, programmed with the PAL library? It should be freeware or
GPLed for my learning purposes=2E Possibly I would like to copy some code?!?

I want to write an adventure game (in a time)=2E

Martin=20=

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On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> On the behalf of Alchemija I thank you too,David. Let's hope that
> Scott encloses instructions where to find and how to install drivers
> next time.

To be fair, the same problem applies when using most any flash card in a
100LX, not just one of Scott's cards.  Thank goodness it can be fixed with
a single driver.

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On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:50:36 -0800 David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> writes:
>
  SmartCaps is the feature of  Buddy
> that automatically capitalizes letters at the beginning of a new
> sentence, or the word I, and the like.

I was thinking of inverted caps, like cOLUMBUS, for example.   The word
"I" can be caught by Quicklx, with a simple notation on the ini file,
though.   I was also thinking of frequent words which must be capitalized
(Christmas, not chritsmas, etc).  All those types can be caught by
Quicklx.   But I must admit I did not think of the beginning of
sentences.   Quicklx is a commercial program, so since there is a
commercial interest, maybe Andreas might consider adding that feature?

Domingo

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PE has an "Only" function where you press Ctl-C and it will display all
the lines in your document with a specified string. Over the weekend I
was searching on the net for a windows-based text editor that has the
same feature, but was unable to find one.

Does anyone know of a windows-based text editor that has the same kind
of "Only" function that PE has?

TIA,
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> > > v 1.1 I haven't been able to get this going.  I have the parameters
> > > below in my LXTCP.CFG, and a file named passwd.cfg in the working
> > > directory with nothing but a password in it, but it doesn't seem to
> > > work.  I get a message to check password.
> > >
> > >   ftpd.enable=1
> > >   ftp.passfile=passwd.cfg
> >
> > This one had me stumped for a while too. If you change the line to read
> >
> >     ftpd.passfile...
> >
> > it should work, assuming everything else is set right.
>
> That makes sense and I tried it--unfortunately, it still didn't
> work.  I tried the password in passwd.cfg with and without quotes
> and with and without a line feed at the end.  Still got the message

Oh, I missed the "password only" in your original message. You have to
generate passwd.cfg with lxpasswd.exe included with lxtcp. This creates a
file with username:encrypted password pairs.

To use it type in

     lxpasswd passwd.cfg

and it will let you add and delete users to the passwd.cfg file.

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Jon Barrett wrote:
> Next question - how many *serious*  developers *for the desktop* are
> still developing for DOS or Windows 3.x? They've had 5 years to
> transition for pete's sake! People on the W2K beta newsgroups are

Some of us still use DOS BATCH for a lot of our file manipulation
grunt work. Some of it, I admit, has to do with resistance to change,
and to learn something vastly better like add-on unix shells, perl,
etc.

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>Scripting tools, including perl, Javascript, ...
>are available in GUI versions for Windows too.

Nice. Windows tries to simulate Unix servers.
Do you want to tell, that it does the same job?

>VBA has a recording mode which works like
>the 200LX macro tool.

Wrong: I had about 5 minutes, to figure out,
how to use the 200LX macro tool. And it worked.
VBA doesn't work, it tells me a lot of error
messages that I don't want to care about.

-goe-

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Curtis Brown wrote:
>
> Jon Barrett wrote:
> > Next question - how many *serious*  developers *for the desktop* are
> > still developing for DOS or Windows 3.x? They've had 5 years to
> > transition for pete's sake! People on the W2K beta newsgroups are
>
> Some of us still use DOS BATCH for a lot of our file manipulation
> grunt work. Some of it, I admit, has to do with resistance to change,
> and to learn something vastly better like add-on unix shells, perl,
> etc.
>
I agree, there is nothing like opening a DOS window and actually using
the keyboard ("how quaint", as Scotty would say) to copy files. I find
it much faster than the massive click drag fest needed to get way down
in a directory tree, get the windows non-overlapping on the screen,
select the files you want with the mouse, etc. Bryan

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Vi and Emacs may have their tricks also, tho I'm not sure how aside from writing
to a temp file and using grep (an external string search utility).

The IBM mainframe editor SPF had that feature, and that editor was ported to
DOS/Windows by Command Technology  Corporation (and hence a commercial produc).
Essentially you hide all the lines (using the "exclude" command), and then
search for (and re-display) only those lines containing your specified string.
Unlike my vi kluge described above, this SPF feature works with the current edit
model (ie vs a saved file).  Re-displayed lines are available to edit also.

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PE has an "Only" function where you press Ctl-C and it will display all
the lines in your document with a specified string. Over the weekend I
was searching on the net for a windows-based text editor that has the
same feature, but was unable to find one.

Does anyone know of a windows-based text editor that has the same kind
of "Only" function that PE has?

TIA,
Steve


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   >Travel refers to the up-and-down motion of the keys.  On the Revo,
   >the keys barely depress at all, and there's no real tactile
   >feedback to tell you if you've actually hit a key.

So by that you mean it's hard to tell when you've typed a letter because the
keys are slippery?

This makes typing more difficult, I understand?

Thanks for this reply.


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On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 21:45:09 -0500, Jon Barrett wrote:

>You haven't answered
>the basic issue - the inaccuracy of the claim that MS was eliminating DOS
>and Win3.1 support. It's there today, and working.

Oh! on that point I have absolutely no idea; and leave it to
those who know or care.

        `~Maynard

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Not really slippery.  Think of drawing a keyboard on a flat surface and trying
to type on it.

The lack of key "travel" means you don't really know if you hit a key (or even
the right one) or not, without watching the keyboard or screen ... an added
inconvenience for speed typers who keep their eyes on the text being read/copied
(yes, some people like David Sargeant can do this).  For slow typers like
myself, the lack of "travel" is a minor inconvenience, but I'd still rather have
the feedback than not ... hard to explain unless you've done lots of typing
(like 20 years worth).

- Longden





David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET> on 12/05/99 07:42:29 PM

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   >Travel refers to the up-and-down motion of the keys.  On the Revo,
   >the keys barely depress at all, and there's no real tactile
   >feedback to tell you if you've actually hit a key.

So by that you mean it's hard to tell when you've typed a letter because the
keys are slippery?

This makes typing more difficult, I understand?

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On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, David Ball wrote:

> So by that you mean it's hard to tell when you've typed a letter
> because the keys are slippery? This makes typing more difficult, I
> understand?

As Longden has pointed out, it's not so much a problem of slippery as that
you can't tell when you've hit a key without checking the screen to see if
it showed up. It's also easy to hit the same key several times in a row
and not be aware.

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http://www.atlantic-coast.com/pcfile/

Hope it helps the curious 8-), Jim Knophf (Sp?)
site appears to have disappeared.

His story is relayed here:

http://www.freewarehof.org/sstory.html

Regards......Liam
Western Australia

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Hi fellow palmtoppers!
I'd like to share my problems with post/lx. hoping that
we can find a solution together. I have a registered
copy of www/lx 2.1e and I use it twice every day to
down/up-load my emails. I've encountered some problems
with the way post/lx formats the email messages: it
usually looses all the formatting, and when I receive
my currency update they are almost un-readable.
I have a similar problem with LXDR: I can't use it
to read the hplx digest and the genetic alg. digest I
usually receive in my mailbox; this is due to the fact
that the subject is usually put with the field 'from'
on the same line.
Besides of that when I compose a message and see the
'preview' of it before sending it, it completely lacks
of the formatting I've just done in PE.

Any idea to solve this problems?

TIA
Raffaele

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Using Curtis Cameron's graphics functions, I ported BSD Cribbage to the
LX.  As with Curtis's games, it's freeware.  I'd like to convince Curtis
to add it to his games page, but for now you can download it here:
http://sdl.continet.com/~support/crib.zip

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I tuned in to this thread late, but, it seems like an old problem we had
with "non-travel" membrane keyboards.  The tactile feedback problem was
solved with the addition of a tiny solenoid that provided an audible click
that could be felt as well on each keystroke.  ...hope this idea is of help.
If, not, store it for later use...


regards...

Tony
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On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, David Ball wrote:

> So by that you mean it's hard to tell when you've typed a letter
> because the keys are slippery? This makes typing more difficult, I
> understand?

As Longden has pointed out, it's not so much a problem of slippery as that
you can't tell when you've hit a key without checking the screen to see if
it showed up. It's also easy to hit the same key several times in a row
and not be aware.

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On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 ddvteach@juno.com wrote:

> I was thinking of inverted caps, like cOLUMBUS, for example.  The word
> "I" can be caught by Quicklx, with a simple notation on the ini file,
> though.  I was also thinking of frequent words which must be
> capitalized (Christmas, not chritsmas, etc).  All those types can be
> caught by Quicklx.  But I must admit I did not think of the beginning
> of sentences.  Quicklx is a commercial program, so since there is a
> commercial interest, maybe Andreas might consider adding that feature?

Ah, I see what you mean.  Quick/LX has wonderful uses, but Buddy has
equally useful and different uses.  Maybe Andreas could combine Buddy's
SmartCaps feature with Quick/LX and make it an invincible palmtop tool.

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For sale - HP200LX 6 meg doublespeed, 8 meg & 3 meg flash ram, 2 512k sram
cards, connectivity pack, 14.4 modem, software.  $500.00.
Contact :       William Scott England
                (913) 631-2169
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>a possibility would be for
>Dbcheck to do some kind of checksum on the database and log that checksum
>for comparison the next time around.  If the checksum matches, the db is
>unchanged regardless of the archive bit or date flag.

The checksum would include perhaps the time-stamp and therefore never
matches.

-goe-

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Mon,  6 Dec 1999 20:45:03 +0000 (GMT)

02h31m52s ago ...
On Mon,  6 Dec 1999 10:13:11 -0800 (PST), Raffaele Gaioni wrote:

> it usually looses all the formatting, and when I receive my currency
> update they are almost un-readable.

Raffaele,

Have you tried Menu/View/Reformat or Alt-F ?

You'll find Alt-F toggles between formatted/unformatted and should fix
you messages when you view them in POST/LX

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>  How does this affect the
>  Appointment Book?  Will it go south at about 5000 appointments, or will it
>  continue indefinitely?
I don't know but I plan for the worst. I use the extract feature and create a
file with the older apppointments etc.
Thia way I have the older records but no worry about limits. Plus it seems to
speed up the apt book slightly.

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On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:23:07 +0100, Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT> =
wrote:

> I've encountered some problems
> with the way post/lx formats the email messages: it
> usually looses all the formatting, and when I receive
> my currency update they are almost un-readable.

> Besides of that when I compose a message and see the
> 'preview' of it before sending it, it completely lacks
> of the formatting I've just done in PE.
>
> Any idea to solve this problems?


In POST/LX look under View, Reformat.

Regards,

Qman...
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I finally found my pcmcia card modem under all the clutter on my desk
and am going to start playing with it so I'll be prepared to actually
use it when traveling.  I think I have to run CIC100 before trying to
use the modem, right?  Can I run this only in the Software Carousel
session where I run WWW/LX or should I run it from the Autoexec.Bat
before SC is started?

I think I've seen some alternatives to CIC100 mentioned on the list.
What are their pros and cons?  I'm pretty sure storage used is (one of)
the main bebefits; are there others?

Any else I should consider?

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Hi Lars,

> Perhaps I missed something,I just saw that Ericsson advertised about
>  loose IR modems,I believed it to be like an ordinary modem, connectable
>  to the Ericsson's phones whitout IR port,so the phone did the sending,and
>  if you then could have a long  cable between the loose IR modem and
>  the phone then the antenna of the phone wouldn't interfere.

Well, most of the people who want to connect to the phone via irda are
already able to simply connect phone and LX with a serial cable,
because a modem is already inside the phone.
And the wired serial port is in no way affexted by the field around the
phone's antenna.
So the solution with the cable is already there and there's no need of
an external modem.
But we want more! 8-)

> Well,I just tried to help.

Thanks Lars! We really appreciate any help!

GTX
daniel

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Russel,  I think the only other real contender is LXCIC on the SUPER site,
written by Stefan Peichl (of LXPIC fame).

The main benefit is TSR RAM use.  6k for CIC100 vs 816 bytes for LXCIC (at least
on my version).  Stefan is also around to make any tweaks needed, whereas CIC100
works for you or it don't.

Another contender (short-lived) was altcic which turned out to be an illegal
hacked version of some Japanese software.

I don't have SC so I can't volunteer configuration information relative to modem
use, but I believe LXCIC will run in a separate SC session whereas CIC100 had
problems in that regard (this is from the dark recesses of my memory).

- Longden  (forever in the dark without a backlight .... but I'm a mushroom, so
who cares?)





Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> on 12/06/99 02:27:01 PM

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Subject:  PCMCIA modem + CIC100




I finally found my pcmcia card modem under all the clutter on my desk
and am going to start playing with it so I'll be prepared to actually
use it when traveling.  I think I have to run CIC100 before trying to
use the modem, right?  Can I run this only in the Software Carousel
session where I run WWW/LX or should I run it from the Autoexec.Bat
before SC is started?

I think I've seen some alternatives to CIC100 mentioned on the list.
What are their pros and cons?  I'm pretty sure storage used is (one of)
the main bebefits; are there others?

Any else I should consider?

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        KEDIT for Windows is Mansfield Software Group's text editor for
Windows 3.1, and for Windows 95, 98, and NT. Text mode versions of KEDIT are
available for DOS and for OS/2.

        http://www.kedit.com

        From the online help:

          The ALL command causes KEDIT to search through your file for all
lines
          containing the specified target, using KEDIT's selective line
editing
          facilities to select these lines for display.  All other lines of
your
          file are temporarily excluded from the display.

          When you once again want to work with all lines of your file, you
can
          issue the ALL command with no operands, and all lines of your file
will
          again be selected.

        KEDIT for Windows 1.5 is priced at $159 plus shipping.
        KEDIT 5.0 for DOS is also $159 plus shipping.
        KEDIT 5.0 for OS/2, which also includes a copy of the DOS module, is
$189 plus shipping.

   - Dale

-------------

> Vi and Emacs may have their tricks also, tho I'm not sure how aside from
> writing to a temp file and using grep (an external string search utility).
>
> The IBM mainframe editor SPF had that feature, and that editor was ported
> to DOS/Windows by Command Technology  Corporation (and hence a commercial
> product).
> Essentially you hide all the lines (using the "exclude" command), and then
> search for (and re-display) only those lines containing your specified
> string.
> Unlike my vi kluge described above, this SPF feature works with the
> current edit model (ie vs a saved file).  Re-displayed lines are available
> to edit also.
>
> - Longden
>
-------------

> PE has an "Only" function where you press Ctl-C and it will display all
> the lines in your document with a specified string. Over the weekend I
> was searching on the net for a windows-based text editor that has the
> same feature, but was unable to find one.
>
> Does anyone know of a windows-based text editor that has the same kind
> of "Only" function that PE has?
>
> TIA,
> Steve
>
>

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Yes... Someone wrote me off list and mentioned Kedit. I downloaded the
demo, and it definitely does the trick. Seems like a very nice editor,
but I was hoping to find something for a bit less than $159.

PE runs OK on the desktop, but it wants to go to full screen mode all
the time, and it doesn't let me cut'n paste from windows apps into it.
So I was just looking for an inexpensive windows editor that would do
the Ctl-C thing.  Kedit is fine, just a bit too expensive for me.

Steve

        -----Original Message-----
        KEDIT for Windows is Mansfield Software Group's text editor for
        Windows 3.1, and for Windows 95, 98, and NT. Text mode versions
of KEDIT are
        available for DOS and for OS/2.

                http://www.kedit.com <http://www.kedit.com>

                From the online help:

         The ALL command causes KEDIT to search through your file for
all
        Lines containing the specified target, using KEDIT's selective
line
        editing facilities to select these lines for display.

        KEDIT for Windows 1.5 is priced at $159 plus shipping.

        - Dale


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<P><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Yes... Someone wrote me off list and mentioned =
Kedit. I downloaded the demo, and it definitely does the trick. Seems =
like a very nice editor, but I was hoping to find something for a bit =
less than $159.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">PE runs OK on the desktop, but it wants to go =
to full screen mode all the time, and it doesn't let me cut'n paste =
from windows apps into it.&nbsp; So I was just looking for an =
inexpensive windows editor that would do the Ctl-C thing.&nbsp; Kedit =
is fine, just a bit too expensive for me.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Steve</FONT>
</P>
<UL>
<P><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">KEDIT for Windows is Mansfield =
Software Group's text editor for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Windows 3.1, and for Windows 95, 98, =
and NT. Text mode versions of KEDIT are</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">available for DOS and for =
OS/2.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT> <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.kedit.com"><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" =
FACE=3D"Arial">http://www.kedit.com</FONT></U></A>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; From the =
online help:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;The ALL command causes KEDIT to =
search through your file for all</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Lines containing the specified =
target, using KEDIT's selective line</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">editing facilities to select these =
lines for display. </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">KEDIT for Windows 1.5 is priced at =
$159 plus shipping.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">- Dale</FONT>
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              Donald Collins <dcollins@MCSWEB1.COM>
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I had the same problem at first.  It was my modem settings.  Using the default
settings allowed me to logon to any BBS but I had to use extra settings for my
ISP.  Why? I don't know.

Don.

>I was wondering if any one else has had problems with timeouts on
>CCLXPOP, version 1.05. Every time I try to download email it starts to
>download the first message, then gives me a POP server timeout.  I have

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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 19:42:23 -0500
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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Hi Steven,

I'd like to put it on the games.hplx.net site if it's OK by
you.

 -Mike http://games.hplx.net

> Using Curtis Cameron's graphics functions, I ported BSD Cribbage to the
> LX.  As with Curtis's games, it's freeware.  I'd like to convince =
Curtis
> to add it to his games page, but for now you can download it here:
> http://sdl.continet.com/~support/crib.zip

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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:22:14 -0800
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On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, bravhart mail wrote:

> I tuned in to this thread late, but, it seems like an old problem we
> had with "non-travel" membrane keyboards.  The tactile feedback
> problem was solved with the addition of a tiny solenoid that provided
> an audible click that could be felt as well on each keystroke.
> ...hope this idea is of help. If, not, store it for later use...

The Revo keyboard is kinda similar to a membrane keyboard, actually.  I
hope there's at least an option to turn on a beep when a key is hit, but I
don't remember it having one.

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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:23:13 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Appointment book record limit?
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On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Patrick West wrote:

> I don't know but I plan for the worst. I use the extract feature and
> create a file with the older apppointments etc. Thia way I have the
> older records but no worry about limits. Plus it seems to speed up the
> apt book slightly.

How often do you do this?

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Date:         Tue, 7 Dec 1999 01:35:37 +0000
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Peniel,

Thanks.  I have always liked VDE, but the 64K limit on file
size was a problem for me.  I'll check out the new version.
  =Bob=

> For David and anyone else interested in the VDE editor, version 1.9
> came out a few days ago.  Just found it, and haven't tried it out yet,
> but according to the docs it can now handle large (~600K) files.  It's
> at:
>
> http://www.punky.com/vde/

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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:47:59 -0500
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Mon,  6 Dec 1999 20:34:10 -0500 (EST)

Hi Russ:

   I use Stefan Peichl's LXCIC. Here is an excerpt from the DOCs:

> LxCic is a I/O card enabler and thus a CIC100 alternative on
> the Palmtop. LxCic may be used nonresident or resident. If
> loaded resident, it only takes about 1200 bytes of memory and
> may be unloaded at any time.

I load it "Resident" in autoexec.bat so I have access to all my FLASH,
MODEM, Network cards in every session. You could load & unload as
needed within a workarea. This is a far superior replacement to CIC100
in both memory allocation & functionality..."KUDOS" to Stefan!

Oh, did I forget to mention it only works on a double-speeded unit?
<VBG>

03h07m09s ago ...
On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Russel Brooks wrote:

> I finally found my pcmcia card modem under all the clutter on my desk
> and am going to start playing with it so I'll be prepared to actually
> use it when traveling.  I think I have to run CIC100 before trying to
> use the modem, right?  Can I run this only in the Software Carousel
> session where I run WWW/LX or should I run it from the Autoexec.Bat
> before SC is started?
>
> I think I've seen some alternatives to CIC100 mentioned on the list.
> What are their pros and cons?  I'm pretty sure storage used is (one of)
> the main bebefits; are there others?
>
> Any else I should consider?
>
> cheers... Russ
>
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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 13:18:02 -0700
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Text Editors...
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I use an application called "string search" that searches files,
directories or subdirectories for a specified string. Can redirect
results to a file. It is about 4K. Would be glad to send it.

Bob

Steve Dowell wrote:

> Does anyone know of a windows-based text editor that has the same kind
> of "Only" function that PE has?
>
> TIA,
> Steve

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+--------------------+-----------------+
|Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
|bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
|Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
+--------------------+-----------------+
|   http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   |
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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 13:49:27 -0700
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Laplink can also be used for backing up. Version 4 is available for free
download somewhere on ZD but don't recall the URL.

Bob

Curtis Cameron wrote:

> I've been searching for a suitable substitute, but haven't found one.
> Has anyone else?

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+--------------------+-----------------+
|Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
|bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
|Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 19:17:51 -0800
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Problems with Post/LX: Format of Header/Body of msg
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> Hi fellow palmtoppers!
> I'd like to share my problems with post/lx. hoping that
> we can find a solution together. I have a registered
> copy of www/lx 2.1e and I use it twice every day to
> down/up-load my emails. I've encountered some problems
> with the way post/lx formats the email messages: it
> usually looses all the formatting, and when I receive
> my currency update they are almost un-readable.

Someone already replied - Menu View Reformat. It is a
toggle switch, please  try it, and let us know if your
problem is or is not... :-)

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion.
For official D&A Software response,
please write to:  support@dasoft.com
and check FAQs at http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 21:07:58 +0000
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From:         Terry Owen <sandstar@TECHNOLOGIST.COM>
Subject:      Re: Text Editors...
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PFE is FreeWare
http://www.lancs.ac.uk/people/cpaap/pfe/

PEDIT 3.30 also freeware
 http://www.spark.net.hk/~pedit

Both have simple macro functions that might allow you to do what you
want.


> Date:          Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:23:30 -0600
> Reply-to:      HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
>                Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
> From:          Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
> Subject:       Re: Text Editors...
> To:            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> Yes... Someone wrote me off list and mentioned Kedit. I downloaded the
> demo, and it definitely does the trick. Seems like a very nice editor,
> but I was hoping to find something for a bit less than $159.
>
> PE runs OK on the desktop, but it wants to go to full screen mode all
> the time, and it doesn't let me cut'n paste from windows apps into it.
> So I was just looking for an inexpensive windows editor that would do
> the Ctl-C thing.  Kedit is fine, just a bit too expensive for me.
>
> Steve
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         KEDIT for Windows is Mansfield Software Group's text editor for
>         Windows 3.1, and for Windows 95, 98, and NT. Text mode versions
> of KEDIT are
>         available for DOS and for OS/2.
>
>                 http://www.kedit.com <http://www.kedit.com>
>
>                 From the online help:
>
>          The ALL command causes KEDIT to search through your file for
> all
>         Lines containing the specified target, using KEDIT's selective
> line
>         editing facilities to select these lines for display.
>
>         KEDIT for Windows 1.5 is priced at $159 plus shipping.
>
>         - Dale
>
>
>

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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 23:19:39 -0500
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              S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM
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> I thoughit a GPS told you your position on the globe, not on the screen
> (unless you're standing on it)...

I can't stand on my globe any better than I couls stand on a screen.  A =
globe
is too small and round, and I would slip off the side.  I suppose a GPS =
would
tell me my position on our planet, however.... <g>

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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 23:19:41 -0500
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              S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM
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> use it when traveling.  I think I have to run CIC100 before trying to
> use the modem, right?  Can I run this only in the Software Carousel
> session where I run WWW/LX or should I run it from the Autoexec.Bat
> before SC is started?

Cic100 has to be run before SC in your autoexec.bat file.  I currently =
use
lxcic since it uses less memory and can be run in just one SC session.  I
actually run lxcic in my autoexec.bat since I have been too lazy to set =
it up
to run just before I go online each time <g>

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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:15:11 -0600
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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From:         Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: xcopy with "/d" switch for LX?
Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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David Sargeant wrote:
>You could use the Archive attribute and then use xcopy /a or /m.  When you
>copy files the first time, do an "attrib -a /s" command in the root of the
>drive.  Then, next time, use xcopy /a/s to copy all files that have been
>changed.  The /m slash does this also, but then removes the Archive
>attribute for each file after copying, so you won't have to do it
>manually.

Thanks, David. This is exactly what I needed. I'm ashamed to admit
that I hadn't noticed that xcopy can work with the archive bit. This
from someone who backs up his PC using the archive bit (along with
pkzip).

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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:38:39 -0800
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              al chin <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
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Hello
Help...
Is ther anyone on the list living in Thailand
specifically BKK or CNX ??????????????
But anywhere will doooo



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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:31:38 -0600
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Appointment book record limit?
Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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David Sargeant wrote:
>It's pretty much common knowledge that the palmtop's database engine has a
>limitation of about 5000 records for a database.  How does this affect the
>Appointment Book?  Will it go south at about 5000 appointments, or will it
>continue indefinitely?

The appointment book's files seem to be handled by some common code in
the LX which handles the other kinds of files, so I'm pretty sure that
the same limits would apply (but I'm not finding out!).

I'm not sure what causes the 5000 limit, but my guess is that it's a
limitation of the size of the lookup table. There are eight bytes in
the lookup table for each palmtop record. Each data item (todo, appt,
or event in ApptBk) takes one record, each note takes one, plus about
30 for the field definitions etc. The header of the lookup table has a
two-byte field indicating its length, which would make for a maximum
size of 64K bytes. With 5000 data items, if 3000 of them had notes,
there would be around 8030 total records, so the lookup table would be
64246 bytes, very close to the largest 16-bit number, 65535.

This is my theory, anyway, but I'm not going to test it with my own
files. Especially since the file would become cumbersome for the LX to
handle long before it gets to this point.

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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:44:14 -0600
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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From:         Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: DBCHECK Errors with ADB Extract File
Comments: To: BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM
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Ulrich Boche wrote:
>All files check out OK except one, the bad
>one is an ADB file I have created with the appointment book on the
>HP 200 LX.
>This is the DBCHECK report for November's MONAT.ADB:
>
>MONAT.ADB:
>Data error: record number 34 doesn't exist
>Error: a data record contained an invalid value.

You can see exactly what record has the error with the "/d" switch,
like this:
  dbcheck /d monat.adb > monat.txt
This will generate a large amount of text to the file monat.txt, which
you can then open with any text editor that can handle large files.
Notepad in 95 and 98 can't, but Notepad in NT can. Then search for the
word "error", and you'll see the data item where the error occurs.

You could then try to delete the offending item, but it might not be
accessible from the Appointment app. You could use the connectivity
pack to export everything to a CDF file, and then load that CDF file
back into a clean ADB file, but this will cause all your repeating
items to be expanded into separate ones, which is a pain.

You could e-mail me the file to see if I could fix it. However, I will
be vacationing (in Cancun) Wednesday through Sunday.

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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 21:25:16 -0500
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              Donald Collins <dcollins@MCSWEB1.COM>
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What is LXMTA?

Don.


>that email (without downloading, which is regrettable).  I am planning an
>update to ccLXPOP to cause it to basically act like PNRTI, and use LXMTA as a
>basis for downloading.

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Date:         Tue, 7 Dec 1999 19:58:38 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Eng. & Industrial Projects" <danaan@OPERA.IINET.NET.AU>
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I'm a little bit agravated with my HP200, in 3 months I
have had corrupted phone and appointment pdb's and it
is getting a little bit bit disconcerting.

And It would appear i can do nothing about it, back ups
and re-installing the corrupted files.  Maybe I'm getting
old and grumpy but I expect infalability out of PDA 8-)

regards.......Liam
Western Australia

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Date:         Tue, 7 Dec 1999 08:14:23 -0500
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              FRiC <frac@POBOX.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Native Thai
Comments: To: hobchi@YAHOO.COM
In-Reply-To:  <19991207043839.4499.qmail@web108.yahoomail.com> from al chin at
              "Dec 6, 99 08:38:39 pm"
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I live in Bangkok, Thailand.

Why?

> Is ther anyone on the list living in Thailand
> specifically BKK or CNX ??????????????

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This looks like a bug in the "Remove" function of the Appointment book.=

I ran DBCHECK with the debug option and this is the relevant part of th=
e output:

location: 8189  length: 88  record number: 112
ToDo
Desc&ription: PC Cash Sammel?berweisung abschicken
Start &Date : 10/30/1999
D&ue Date   : 0
Completion Date: See record number 27
Data error: record number 27 doesn't exist
&Priority   : P1
&Carry Forward =3D X
&Note: none
Cate&gory:
Custom  =3D X
repeat every 0, months: Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec=
, on day
30
Beginning 10/01/1999 until 10/31/1999
Number of exception dates: 1: 10/30/1999;
Previous link: 110
Next link: 113
Found in recurring list

What this means is: we have a recurring ToDo here. The completion date =
(in
August of
2000) is way outside the time span of the removal (October 1 to Oct. 31=
) and it
looks as
if the removal process keeps a pointer to the completion date but forge=
ts to
copy the
record which contains the completion date (number 27 in this case, the =
missing
one).

I tried to "heal" the database by opening it with the appointment book =
and
deleting the
recurring ToDo. This worked but the error remains. It is not a big deal=
 for me
because
I'm archiving the appointment book the following way without any proble=
m:

1. Use the HP Connectivity Pack XLATE function to convert the MONAT.ADB=
 file to
CDS.
2. Use an editor to merge the CDS file with an archival CDS file of the=
 previous
months
    of the year.
3. Use the HP Connectivity Pack XLATE function to convert the archival =
CDS file
back to
    ADB format. I'm ending up with one ADB database for each year.

Ulrich Boche

Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET> wrote:

>>You can see exactly what record has the error with the "/d" switch,
>>like this:
>>  dbcheck /d monat.adb > monat.txt
>>...
>>You could then try to delete the offending item, but it might not be
>>accessible from the Appointment app. You could use the connectivity
>>pack to export everything to a CDF file, and then load that CDF file
>>back into a clean ADB file, but this will cause all your repeating
>>items to be expanded into separate ones, which is a pain.
=

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Dittos to that.  I just lost all years appts which I had backed up on my
1414LXM(2MG).
When I tried to reload from the 1414LXM my 200LX corrupted that device.
I have both competely re-worked and functional but all my critical data is
gone.
Hope someone has some ideas to prevent this from happening in the future.

----- Original Message -----
From: Eng. & Industrial Projects <danaan@OPERA.IINET.NET.AU>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 5:58 AM
Subject: File corruption


> I'm a little bit agravated with my HP200, in 3 months I
> have had corrupted phone and appointment pdb's and it
> is getting a little bit bit disconcerting.
>
> And It would appear i can do nothing about it, back ups
> and re-installing the corrupted files.  Maybe I'm getting
> old and grumpy but I expect infalability out of PDA 8-)
>
> regards.......Liam
> Western Australia
>
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On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 11:39:50 -0800 David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> writes:
> On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 ddvteach@juno.com wrote:
>
> > I was thinking of inverted caps, like cOLUMBUS, for example.  The
word
> > "I" can be caught by Quicklx, with a simple notation on the ini
file,
> > though.  I was also thinking of frequent words which must be
> > capitalized (Christmas, not chritsmas, etc).  All those types can  be
> > caught by Quicklx.  But I must admit I did not think of the
beginning
> > of sentences.  Quicklx is a commercial program, so since there is  a
> > commercial interest, maybe Andreas might consider adding that
> feature?
>
> Ah, I see what you mean.  Quick/LX has wonderful uses, but Buddy has
> equally useful and different uses.  Maybe Andreas could combine
Buddy's
> SmartCaps feature with Quick/LX and make it an invincible palmtop
> tool.
I was answering to the idea someone expressed of having smartcaps with
less
of a memory overhead than buddy, rather than comparing the two programs'
functionality.
Buddy takes about 46k of memory, while Quicklx takes about 5.8k,
depending on
the size of the ini file.   Also, I use a few TSR programs which contain
some of the
essential functions I need from buddy, without the memory penalty
(besides quicklx,
I also use lxshift & numlock).  If someone would make a standalone
smartcaps, that
would round my collection nicely (I know buddy has a huge array of
functions, but for
what I actually need, buddy is overkill and a memory hog to boot, on our
palmtop, that is).

Domingo

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Liam,  have you tried running Curtis Cameron's DBCHECK program on your db's?

It may not prevent whatever is causing the problem, but it may tell you if the
restored file is already corrupted and hence needs to be fixed.

Starting from a clean slate (ie, know that all db's are uncorrupted) may lessen
the aggravation (remember that the HP200 is old and grumpy too).

- Longden





"Eng. & Industrial Projects" <danaan@OPERA.IINET.NET.AU> on 12/07/99 03:58:38 AM

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Subject:  File corruption




I'm a little bit agravated with my HP200, in 3 months I
have had corrupted phone and appointment pdb's and it
is getting a little bit bit disconcerting.

And It would appear i can do nothing about it, back ups
and re-installing the corrupted files.  Maybe I'm getting
old and grumpy but I expect infalability out of PDA 8-)

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Some clarification: LXCIC works on single and double speed
palmtops. It was designed for use in only one SC work area, but
turned out to be so small, that it doesn't hurt to be loaded
resident in autoexec.bat. Thanks to Mack and Rod, it also
supports network cards and allows to switch the palmtop off and
on without loosing the network connection. This is a real plus!

I don't want to start a new SC discussion, but everybody with
enough RAM or a (fast) flash card should consider getting this
'cannot live without it' piece of software. It's value in terms
of $ is just the price of a palmtop multiplied with the numer
of SC sessions you want to run. I have 10 sessions running,
hence my value of SC is $2000, assuming I had to buy 10 used
palmtops for $200 each. It's really that simple: SC just offers
you up to 12 virtual palmtops in one physical.

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              David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
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   >As Longden has pointed out, it's not so much a problem of slippery
   >as that you can't tell when you've hit a key without checking the
   >screen to see if it showed up. It's also easy to hit the same key
   >several times in a row and not be aware.

Ahh, I see.  That would definitely be a troublesome feature.  Is that common
to all the Psion units, or just to the Revo?

Thanks again for this information.


Net-Tamer V 1.11.2 - Test Drive

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I have an interest in tracing my family history, and now thai I have this
great palmtop, I'd like some recommendations on software that runs on the
200LX.  Some obvious requirements come to mind:

1. Shareware.  Not everyone has the same taste in programs, and I'd like to
be able to try the program out before I buy it.

2.  Y2K compliant, as far as it matters.  I'd like to be able to keep using
the program beyong Jan 1st.

3.  I'd like the program to be able to create detailed family trees.  Any
experiences/recommendations anyone has willl be greatly appreciated.

Palmtop Power!--This email composed on a rugged HP200LX that fits in
your pocket!

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Date:         Tue, 7 Dec 1999 16:43:05 +0100
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Hi!

Is there a Windows tool, with which I can work on these "*=2ENDB" Files?
With the HPPIM tools I cannot do so=2E

Martin

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Date:         Tue, 7 Dec 1999 00:17:47 -0500
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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Very simply, Metcalfs law states that the value of a network
increases exponentially as the number of nodes on the
network increases.

Of couse, this comes from the man that invented ethernet,
so the value of his 3Com stock increases as the number of
hosts on ethernet networks increases... ;)

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Saturday, December 04, 1999 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Metcalfe's Law


>>From one thing to another,Goldie,this law of Metcalf,is
>>it something like Murphy's law?which is:If something
>>can go wrong,it will.
>
>No. It is a real law that is comparable with things on
>the Internet. You can read more about this Metcalfe
>on the website of Jakob Nielsen (www.useit.com).
>He (Nielsen) is called the Internet Guru No. 6.
>My work depends a lot on his work (Information
>Architecture and Usability).
>
>-goe-
>
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I was doing a little surfing and found this site.   Unless you read Japanese
the content is a little weak but it has some great pictures of the inside of
a 200lx getting the clock upgrade and...... getting a EL panel installed.
If this is an old link I apologize but I hadn't seen it before.  Also, there
is a picture of a Toshiba PHS telephone with an unusual name.  "Peas and
Carrots".  Can one of our Japanese friends give me a hint what peas and
carrots have to do with telephones?
bob
http://www.portnet.ne.jp/~amaki/hp200lx/
For the picture of the Toshiba phone click in the left frame on the link
starting with PHS

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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I think the the only desktop application that reads NDBs and GDBs would be the
Connectivity Package ... a DOS based program.

- Longden





Martin Doering <Martin_Doering@MN.MAN.DE> on 12/07/99 07:43:05 AM

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Hi!

Is there a Windows tool, with which I can work on these "*.NDB" Files?
With the HPPIM tools I cannot do so.

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              "England, Scott" <sengland@HRBLOCK.COM>
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> For sale - HP200LX 6 meg doublespeed, 8 meg & 3 meg flash ram, 2 512k sram
> cards, connectivity pack, 14.4 modem, software.  $500.00.
> Contact :     William Scott England
>               (913) 631-2169
>               wengland@iname.com
>               sengland@hrblock.com
>
>

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Is AceCard3 available any where for download

Need for 100lx and 20meg flashcard

Thanks

Jim

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Date:         Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:28:35 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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hi,

> with the way post/lx formats the email messages: it
> usually looses all the formatting, and when I receive
> my currency update they are almost un-readable.
> I have a similar problem with LXDR: I can't use it

When You're in the email reading screen of post/lx, press alt-f to
switch off the built-in formatting of post/lx. then you should see the
original formatting of the email.

GTX
daniel

--

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Date:         Tue, 7 Dec 1999 19:53:01 +1000
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: Appointment book record limit?

Patrick West writes:
> >  How does this affect the
> >  Appointment Book?  Will it go south at about 5000 appointments, or will it
> >  continue indefinitely?
> I don't know but I plan for the worst. I use the extract feature and create a
> file with the older apppointments etc.
> Thia way I have the older records but no worry about limits. Plus it seems to
> speed up the apt book slightly.

I have a repeating appointment every six months to remind me to clean up old
appointments. I delete appointments older than 6 months to another file
whose name is yy-dd-mm.adb which is backed up to my desktop and then wiped out.
This way I dont have hassles with too many appointments.

And I use the HP200 for ALL my appointments, kids special activities,
birthdays etc etc.


======================
David Becher
davidb@netmedia.net.il
davidb@cimatron.co.il
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i'm using a cheap unregulated 9V ac-dc transformer, also commonly kown as
adapter, which puts out 16!V unregulated

i am told that the unregulated ones use diodes which don't give true DC,
sort of with gaps in between the AC peaks in the waves

sa far so good - but yesterday i plugged in and my lx screen went gassy blue
buzzing like the end was near. Removing the plug fixed it. Q: was it the
adapter or my ageing lx?

just when i thought of joining the Furby list i read that it does not take
CFs - no way to back up on the go ... and backup is a philosophy of a joyous
life:

the most common form of depression i encounter in ER is caused by loss
(stock market crash, husband runs off with film star, HPLX-L is usurped by
FURBY-L)

take my advice: don't live without backups (money in real estate, 2nd
lovers, SETI-L)

so, i'm still waiting for something furby-like to replace my LX - maybe i
will have to wait for new technology:

>*World's smallest transistor. Scientists have produced the world's smallest
>transistor. This new design may allow silicon chips to continue to get
>smaller. It could also double the processing speeds of some chips. The
>50-nanometer transistor - roughly 2,000 times smaller than the width of a
>human hair - is known as a "vertical" transistor because all of its
>components are built on top of a silicon wafer.
>http://www.bell-labs.com/news/1999/november/15/1.html

    o__       regards from
   _.>/)_     Nathalie
  (_) \(_)    in France

on a trip into the beautiful countyside with LX in pocket ready to put down
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> I'm a little bit agravated with my HP200, in 3 months I
> have had corrupted phone and appointment pdb's and it
> is getting a little bit bit disconcerting.


Tell is more about your setup.  Perhaps we can come up with some things =
to try.
Do you have a speed or memory upgrade on your palmtop?
Do you run Software Carousel (if so, what version) or Maxdos?
What TSRs do you load in your autoexec.bat file?
How large are the files that tend to corrupt?

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Subject:      Re: el cheapo adapter, furby and fluff

I wouldn't use strange power supplies with the LX. I had the same problem
with a power supply and it wound up destroying my LX. It was a 12V 1 AMP
Radio Shack power supply that I had been using for over a year. I used to
charge the batteries in the LX. I think the generated heat finally took its
toll. I had to pay thaddeus $125USD to fix it.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nathalie Bugeaud mailto:tps-seti@WANADOO.FR
>Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 11:36 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: HPLX-L el cheapo adapter, furby and fluff
>
>
>i'm using a cheap unregulated 9V ac-dc transformer, also
>commonly kown as
>adapter, which puts out 16!V unregulated
>
>i am told that the unregulated ones use diodes which don't
>give true DC,
>sort of with gaps in between the AC peaks in the waves
>
>sa far so good - but yesterday i plugged in and my lx screen
>went gassy blue
>buzzing like the end was near. Removing the plug fixed it. Q:
>was it the
>adapter or my ageing lx?
>
>just when i thought of joining the Furby list i read that it
>does not take
>CFs - no way to back up on the go ... and backup is a
>philosophy of a joyous
>life:
>
>the most common form of depression i encounter in ER is caused by loss
>(stock market crash, husband runs off with film star, HPLX-L
>is usurped by
>FURBY-L)
>
>take my advice: don't live without backups (money in real estate, 2nd
>lovers, SETI-L)
>
>so, i'm still waiting for something furby-like to replace my
>LX - maybe i
>will have to wait for new technology:
>
>>*World's smallest transistor. Scientists have produced the
>world's smallest
>>transistor. This new design may allow silicon chips to continue to get
>>smaller. It could also double the processing speeds of some chips. The
>>50-nanometer transistor - roughly 2,000 times smaller than
>the width of a
>>human hair - is known as a "vertical" transistor because all of its
>>components are built on top of a silicon wafer.
>>http://www.bell-labs.com/news/1999/november/15/1.html
>
>    o__       regards from
>   _.>/)_     Nathalie
>  (_) \(_)    in France
>
>on a trip into the beautiful countyside with LX in pocket
>ready to put down
>my thoughts
>-----------
>
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Date:         Tue, 7 Dec 1999 09:46:51 -0500
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              Donald Collins <dcollins@MCSWEB1.COM>
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SPF/SE is a very powerful programmmer's text editor (Win) with that feature.

See a screen shot at www.command-technology.com/ctcspfse.htm
plus a demo is available on-line.

It cost $199.00, and that's why I still use the discontinued DOS version.

Don


>Does anyone know of a windows-based text editor that has the same kind
>of "Only" function that PE has?

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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 03:04:28 -0600
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Hello
Is anyone using the Parallex Litelink serial IR adaptor to connect the
200LX to a WIN 95/98 desktop.
I have problems getting the port released (I have to try the patch
recently  posted here). When I try to install the paralex software it
works but forces my computer into some DOS compatable mode that is SLOW.
If I can't figure out how to make the unit work I'm inclined to sell/trade
them off (I have 2 unit)
Any hints?
Any offers?

Thanks

Andrew King
IIT Physics Chicago
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I am considering purchasing Supersoftware Carousel and looking for a
little advice.

I have a 1 meg 100LX with a 8 meg EXP memory/modem card.   I  use
Quickverse for DOS which takes about 2.5 megs.  I would like  to load
all the application but none of the games.

Questions:
Do I have enough memory?
Will it run slow without the speed upgrade?
Any other advice/opinions about Supersoftware Carousel?

Thanks,
Gary

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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:27:14 +0930
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Subject:      Re: ccLXPOP & LXMTA (was Re: ccLXPOP timeout)

Jeremy Martinson writes:
> I am using ccLXPOP and the latest beta of LXMTA together and they work fine
> for me.
...
> I was impressed at
> how well these two programs work together. Both authors have done a terrific
> job.

This benefit is mainly due to the fact that ccLXPOP and LXMTA
are both Open Source.  Brian and I were able to look at each
other's code and *ensure* that the programs worked together.

Just another benefit of releasing the source code ...



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Comments: To: garyc@tir.com

   >I have a 1 meg 100LX with a 8 meg EXP memory/modem card.   I  use
   >Quickverse for DOS which takes about 2.5 megs.  I would like  to
   >load all the application but none of the games.
Message-Id: <19991208003906.LXTX10418@12.72.155.11>
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 00:39:06 +0000

I'm a former SC user (not SSC) so take my answers with a bit of awareness
that my info may be dated ... this should suffice till the real SSC jocks
chime in.

   >Do I have enough memory?

Probably not.  You need more memory (RAM) for EMS for SSC to use as a swap
area.  Your flash card may be used, but it'd run REALLY slow during swaps.

How much actual RAM needed depends on how many DOS sessions you want to run
simultaneously (at around 1mb RAM per each, give or take a couple of K).

   >Will it run slow without the speed upgrade?

You'd probably be able to watch the grass grow.

   >Any other advice/opinions about Supersoftware Carousel?

Having slandered a fine product, I'll leave it to the experts to correct my
damage.

It really is a good piece of software ... if you have the resources to
support it.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:41:17 +0930
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> Is there a way to reverse the "send then recieve" process to "recieve then
> send"? Cause I need to log into Yahoo's pop server before I can send mail thru
> it's SMTP server.

LXMTA (currently in beta testing on my web page) allows you to
specify the order on the command line.  When Brian modifies
ccLXPOP to use LXMTA, then you will get that functionality for
free.

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Date:         Tue, 7 Dec 1999 19:54:32 -0800
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              al chin <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
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Girls?
Where?  Are they surpose to have girls here?
Haven't seen all that many....

I'm here studing wat (religious shrines)
meditation, and ayuvedic massage.



=====
> >     o__       regards from
> >    _.>/)_     Thailand. Tooling
> >   (_) \(_)    around lookie, lookie

Better to BE, than to have.  Woman, that's warm...
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Thousands of Stores.  Millions of Products.  All in one place.
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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 04:32:15 +0000
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> It's pretty much common knowledge that the palmtop's database engine has a
> limitation of about 5000 records for a database.  How does this affect the
> Appointment Book?  Will it go south at about 5000 appointments, or will it
> continue indefinitely?

More to the point - will YOU continue indefinitely? (G)

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Date:         Tue, 7 Dec 1999 21:40:18 -0700
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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LCD displays use an AC voltage to prevent permanent polarization, i.e., like
screen burn on a CRT. Perhaps using an unfiltered supply may throw in an offset
DC voltage producing strange results and eventually permanent damage. This is
just a guess off the top of my head without examining the situation.

If you don't have any spare throw away LX's, considering the current market
situation, I'd treat it like it was the last LX in existence.

Bob

Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:

> i'm using a cheap unregulated 9V ac-dc transformer, also commonly kown as
> adapter, which puts out 16!V unregulated
>
> i am told that the unregulated ones use diodes which don't give true DC,
> sort of with gaps in between the AC peaks in the waves
>
> sa far so good - but yesterday i plugged in and my lx screen went gassy blue
> buzzing like the end was near. Removing the plug fixed it. Q: was it the
> adapter or my ageing lx?
>
> just when i thought of joining the Furby list i read that it does not take
> CFs - no way to back up on the go ... and backup is a philosophy of a joyous
> life:
>
> the most common form of depression i encounter in ER is caused by loss
> (stock market crash, husband runs off with film star, HPLX-L is usurped by
> FURBY-L)
>
> take my advice: don't live without backups (money in real estate, 2nd
> lovers, SETI-L)
>
> so, i'm still waiting for something furby-like to replace my LX - maybe i
> will have to wait for new technology:
>
> >*World's smallest transistor. Scientists have produced the world's smallest
> >transistor. This new design may allow silicon chips to continue to get
> >smaller. It could also double the processing speeds of some chips. The
> >50-nanometer transistor - roughly 2,000 times smaller than the width of a
> >human hair - is known as a "vertical" transistor because all of its
> >components are built on top of a silicon wafer.
> >http://www.bell-labs.com/news/1999/november/15/1.html
>
>     o__       regards from
>    _.>/)_     Nathalie
>   (_) \(_)    in France
>
> on a trip into the beautiful countyside with LX in pocket ready to put down
> my thoughts
> -----------
>
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|bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
|Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 07:29:40 +0100
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 06 Dec 1999 17:39:00 +0100, gthoele@GMX.de (Gunnar Thoele) wrote:

> Hallo Martin!
>
> >Btw has anybody tried to use their gsm phones while driving above 200

> Not when driving cars and such, i consider doing that suicide.

It's not the speed that kills you it's when you are coming to a halt
that will kill you :-))

> But i called somebody from an ICE train at 250 km/h without big
> problems. I have heard about the "200km/h problem" before, too, and i
> was wondering how this could work. Maybe the on-train repeaters do
> something to the GSM signal.

Franklin in Norway told me that there are no problems on the new
Gardemoen Express train. There are repeaters on the train which will
deal with this problem (If there is such a problem..)

> Or i was just not moving towards / away from a base station so that my
> relative speed to it was below 200 km/h, but including a sideways
> motion.

As I understanded the problem it was a fixed antenne in which you were
moving away from.. and not when you are bringing the antenna with you
in 250 km/h (on a train)

(And Franklin I will not test this theory with my bike, cellular phone
and a portable handsfreekit :-))

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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 09:22:29 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Stefan

> palmtops for $200 each. It's really that simple: SC just offers
> you up to 12 virtual palmtops in one physical.

...with one difference: It doesn't muliply the internal memory ;-)

But O agree with you: On a fast flash card SC runs very satisfying - I
have 10 sessions swapped onto a 64MB CF card by Sandisk.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:57:09 +0100
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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> Franklin in Norway told me that there are no problems on the new
> Gardemoen Express train. There are repeaters on the train which will
> deal with this problem (If there is such a problem..)

:-) We had the head of Telenor GSM coverage department over at the computer
club in Oslo one evening. He knew where the antennae where in the local
supermarket... He also had a car with a lot of 'goodies' inside. 5 cell
phones: NMT 450 MHz (old system), GSM 900, GSM 1800, Netcom GSM
(competitor); last I forgot. Also a GPS and a CRT screen that showed
instrument readings and moving map.

> As I understanded the problem it was a fixed antenne in which you were
> moving away from.. and not when you are bringing the antenna with you
> in 250 km/h (on a train)

According to the  Telenor guy signals got hairy at about 210 km/h. I suppose
they had a high speed link out of the GSM central. He showed us pictures of
these centrals, they are often camoflaged inside signs. One near a marina
looked like a lunch box bolted to a light mast. :-)

> (And Franklin I will not test this theory with my bike, cellular phone
> and a portable handsfreekit :-))

Pingle!

:-)

br

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Someone had asked what LXMTA is - it is Rod Whitby's TCP/IP driver software -
excellent stuff. I chopped its predecessor (LXPOP) to make ccLXPOP, which loads
email from and to ccMail for POP3 servers. I am currently rewriting ccLXPOP to
be just a threader into and out of ccMail so that as Rod continues to improve
LXMTA, I won't have to reinvent ccLXPOP.I have included Newsgroup support and
have completed the "take email feom ccMail and get it read for LXMTA" portion
of the program... I hope to finish the "receive" end this week and will be
looking for beta testers. If any current users are interested, let me know and
when I feel comfortable sending it out, I'll get it to you.

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The only time Ihave had difficulties with ADB corruption is when I push the
limits with the low battery warning.

Brian

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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:08:25 +0800
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              "Eng. & Industrial Projects" <danaan@OPERA.IINET.NET.AU>
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>>Tell is more about your setup.  Perhaps we can come up
>>with some things to try.Do you have a speed or memory
>> upgrade on your palmtop?

Yes

>>Do you run Software Carousel (if so, what version) or Maxdos?

No S.C, yes MaxDOS

>>What TSRs do you load in your autoexec.bat file?

Buddy would be the only one

>>How large are the files that tend to corrupt?

The phone list file was 16k, not that big huh?

>Steve Carder

Thanks for your interest and input

Regards.....Liam

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Hello.   There was a thread a while back about running ccmail faster than
9600.   Something
about file or transmission corruptions.   The palmtop.com site mentions a
modified modem
driver which allows you to run ccmail faster than 9600.   Would anyone be
able to spare me
a copy of that driver?  I don't recall seeing it on SUPER.

TIA

Domingo

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Tue,  7 Dec 1999 19:02:50 -0500 (EST)

08h19m21s ago ...
On Tue, 7 Dec 1999, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> Some clarification: LXCIC works on single and double speed
> palmtops...

Sorry, I just couldn't resist the oppertunity to tease Russ <VBG>

*
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Mitch,
thanks for the thaddeus info...It's downloaded to my C:drive...and I =
want to understand how to use it...is there help or info somewhere?
thank you,
johncarlo@mindspring.com

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downloaded to=20
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It's been a while since I've looked at SC.

If it runs that well off a flash card, maybe I should revisit it now that I have
a 48mb CF Sandisk myself (much faster and less power hungry than my old 20mb
Kingston).  I have a 6mb 200LX, with only 3mb to spare for downloads and fast
scratch space, and didn't expect to run SC with less than 5-10mb of free space
(of which I have easily on my flash card).  Now if only my credit card has as
much resource .....

- Longden





Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> on 12/08/99 01:22:29 AM

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Hi Stefan

> palmtops for $200 each. It's really that simple: SC just offers
> you up to 12 virtual palmtops in one physical.

...with one difference: It doesn't muliply the internal memory ;-)

But O agree with you: On a fast flash card SC runs very satisfying - I
have 10 sessions swapped onto a 64MB CF card by Sandisk.

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David,
I recently started using Personal Ancestral File (V3) on my 200.  With the
exception of getting the screen colors tweaked just right it works great for
me.  I believe it does all the things you asked for.  It is not shareware
though, but it comes close.  I ordered it from the LDS organization and it
was $15 delivered in the US.  That includes two heavy duty manuals and
assorted other papers that they throw in software boxes.  The LDS also has a
Windows version (V4) that is freeware (?) that you can download that uses
the same files as the DOS version.  The package and website say that it
requires a 286 but it seems fine on my double speed unit.  Can be ordered
online or 800 number.   www.familysearch.net
Later,
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On 30 Nov 1999, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE> wrote:
>
> > If it had been a bigger screen I would have understood it.There is a
> >  frame around the present screen of the HP which is about 1cm thick,this
> >  could be replaced with a much thinner one and the screen with a bigger
> >  LCD display,that is a bigger screen within  the present the size of
> >  the HP.I guess this would be possible to carry out quite easily?
>
> Let's think this out _all the way_... :)
>
> Increasing the screen makes little sense. Horizontally you
> can add 10-20% so maybe reach 800 pixels. Vertically you
> can add maybe 30% or 260 pixels in height. The result: 800
> x 260 screen - What screen is that? It is neither fish, nor
> fowl, some weird hybrid probably requiring drivers to
> display anything.

Let's think out of the box a bit <g>. Since, as you point out,
keeping the same pixel size and increasing the number of pixels
makes a non-standard screen, there is another option.

The screen _could_ be made a bit larger with the same number
of slightly larger pixels. This would have the result of
increasing the font size for those of us who are growing older
(that is, everyone except Fred <g>)  Yes, I know this is
academic, because we have been told by those who KNOW that no
one is interested in making monochrome LCD screens in this
size.

Vic Roberts

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> It's been a while since I've looked at SC.
>
> If it runs that well off a flash card, maybe I should revisit it now that I
> have
> a 48mb CF Sandisk myself (much faster and less power hungry than my old 20mb
> Kingston).  I have a 6mb 200LX, with only 3mb to spare for downloads and fas
> t
> scratch space, and didn't expect to run SC with less than 5-10mb of free spa
> ce
> (of which I have easily on my flash card).  Now if only my credit card has a
> s
> much resource .....

Hi,

I have a 1MB lx (just what I could afford when I bought my lx 5
years ago) and I run all my applications from (uncompressed)
cf-disk. The cf-disk is indeed much faster than my previous
original HP-(Su(a)n)-disk). I remember a statistic which was
posted here some time ago showing that the cf-card is even faster
than the internal c:-drive (was it read access only? Don't
remember). Another advantage is that I can easily plug the cf-disk
into my notebook and use the same applications and data without
any redundancy there (what is synchronisation?). Unless you need
the PCMCIA for something else, in my opinion cf is a great (and
less expensive) alternative to a RAM-upgrade.

Cheers,
Reinhard




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That statistic was read-and-write, and on my 6mb double-speed 200LX with a 48mb
Sandisk CF card, the card is close, but not faster, than the internal C drive
(others may have cards that performa a bit better).

The test was done using a simple batch file I posted about a year ago (works
only on the 200LX, not the 100LX) to time the copying of a megabyte's worth of
data (read/write).

I agree with you on the ease of data synchronization using the CF card ... but
the occasional need to unload the card in favor of a modem stresses any
configuration that ties system functions (like SC's swapping) to the card.  This
would be my reason for the RAM upgrade ... to keep the card solely for storage
and let the LX (sans card) be self-reliant in terms of its system resources.

I agree also that the RAM-upgrade is much more expensive ... I guess convenience
has its price <g>.

- Longden





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I have a 1MB lx (just what I could afford when I bought my lx 5
years ago) and I run all my applications from (uncompressed)
cf-disk. The cf-disk is indeed much faster than my previous
original HP-(Su(a)n)-disk). I remember a statistic which was
posted here some time ago showing that the cf-card is even faster
than the internal c:-drive (was it read access only? Don't
remember). Another advantage is that I can easily plug the cf-disk
into my notebook and use the same applications and data without
any redundancy there (what is synchronisation?). Unless you need
the PCMCIA for something else, in my opinion cf is a great (and
less expensive) alternative to a RAM-upgrade.

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From: Longden Loo mailto:Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Subject: Re: Software Carousel from flash


That statistic was read-and-write, and on my 6mb double-speed 200LX with a
48mb
Sandisk CF card, the card is close, but not faster, than the internal C
drive
(others may have cards that performa a bit better).

The test was done using a simple batch file I posted about a year ago (works
only on the 200LX, not the 100LX) to time the copying of a megabyte's worth
of
data (read/write).

I agree with you on the ease of data synchronization using the CF card ...
but
the occasional need to unload the card in favor of a modem stresses any
configuration that ties system functions (like SC's swapping) to the card.
This
would be my reason for the RAM upgrade ... to keep the card solely for
storage
and let the LX (sans card) be self-reliant in terms of its system resources.

I agree also that the RAM-upgrade is much more expensive ... I guess
convenience
has its price <g>.

- Longden





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I have a 1MB lx (just what I could afford when I bought my lx 5
years ago) and I run all my applications from (uncompressed)
cf-disk. The cf-disk is indeed much faster than my previous
original HP-(Su(a)n)-disk). I remember a statistic which was
posted here some time ago showing that the cf-card is even faster
than the internal c:-drive (was it read access only? Don't
remember). Another advantage is that I can easily plug the cf-disk
into my notebook and use the same applications and data without
any redundancy there (what is synchronisation?). Unless you need
the PCMCIA for something else, in my opinion cf is a great (and
less expensive) alternative to a RAM-upgrade.

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On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote:

> More to the point - will YOU continue indefinitely? (G)

I sure hope I continue longer than 5000 records!

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On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Bob Penick wrote:

> I recently started using Personal Ancestral File (V3) on my 200.
> With the exception of getting the screen colors tweaked just right it
> works great for me.

Do you mean you have gotten the screen colors tweaked just right?  If so,
could you tell us how you did it?  Mine still looks pretty bad.

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> PE has an "Only" function where you press Ctl-C and it will display all
> the lines in your document with a specified string.

Flexpad also has a ONLY search. It is not windows based but works fine in =
a DOS window. You can copy and paste using the windows clipboard.

/Joerg

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Eric C. Thompson writes:
> I was wondering if any one else has had problems with timeouts on
> CCLXPOP, version 1.05. Every time I try to download email it starts to
> download the first message, then gives me a POP server timeout.  I have
> tried three different POP servers and have gotten the same results.

If you have a low bandwidth, high latency link (perhaps a low
speed modem, or a poor connection from your ISP to the
backbone) then you might try putting the following line in
your tcp.cfg file:

        mss=512

This causes small packets to be sent, which seem to do better
when you're getting timeouts.  Note that this is information
from another LXTCP user, which I haven't been able to verify
myself (I must have a good ISP or something).


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Theodore Heise writes:
> I'm just now getting around to upgrading from LXTCP 1.0 to version
> 1.1 and have several questions.  I know there is a version 1.2 in
> the works, but I don't want a combined LXMTA as I don't use LXNNTP.

Ted (& others), note that as of version 1.2 (currently in late
beta testing) I won't be distributing the individual LXPOP &
LXNNTP executables, as LXMTA will replace them.  Have you
compared the size difference between LXMTA and LXPOP (I
haven't, but I wouldn't think it was too much as the TCP/IP
stack and the C library functions are the major part of the
program size).  All new features (like IMAP support, and
anything I add in response to your suggestions below) will be
in LXMTA only.  You don't get support for old versions with
free software :-)

> 1) Version 1.1 of LXPOP scrolled progress messages...  In
> version 1.2, each progress message overwrites...

This is a new feature, as I personally preferred to overwrite
successful messages so that error messages wouldn't scroll off
the screen.  I'm considering adding a lxmta.scrollmessages
config option to switch, and also maybe to print out the From
and Subject lines as messages are downloaded.  Whaddyathink ?

> 2) The new LXPOP parameters in LXTCP.CFG are not very well documented.
>   lxpop.savesent=1
>   lxpop.nodelete=smtp           ; Don't delete sent mail.
>   lxpop.minfree=-1              ; Set to minimum free space.

For those who didn't know, Ted is the reason why PNR is
better documented than LXTCP - he did major updates to the
PNR doco before the last release.  Ted, do you want to help
out with the LXTCP doco too ? :-)

Set savesent=1 if you want to keep a copy of your sent mail in
another folder (they're stored in "Sent Replies", and you can
save them into a normal folder).  nodelete=smtp (renamed to
smtp.delete=0 in LXMTA) means that you're testing out a new
SMTP server and you don't want to delete the messages until
you're sure that they're getting through.  Note that the
messages will continue to be resent every time until you
delete them in PNR or turn off nodelete.  minfree=65536 means
that LXMTA will not download a message if it's going to cause
your free space to go below 64K. minfree=-1 means keep
downloading until you run out of space.

> 3) LXTELNET
>   ftpd.enable=1
>   ftp.passfile=passwd.cfg

Typo in old doco - ftpd.passfile

> 4) Okay, last question.  If you've read this far, thanks!  I have a
> number of e-mail boxes on many different servers, and at least 3 ways
> of dialing up.  I really like Goin' Postals approach to this, but am
> sticking with LXTCP because I like the PNR interface better.

Maybe you can use the GP dialler for the PPP settings, and
then take advantage of the new LXMTA command line options for
the TCP/IP settings.  Remember that the PPP and TCP/IP stacks
are virtually identical between GP and LXTCP.

> I'm thinking of trying to use LXBatch to put
> together a batch file that will let me enter the info to be patched
> into the various confic files as needed.

Search for PPPMAN in the list archives - someone (sorry, I've
forgotten who) has already done what you want.

> Rod, if you're listening, thanks for a SUPER package!

I'm listening (just not able to reply quickly at the moment).
Ted, thanks for your help with the PNR doco - I really hope
you can work your magic with the LXTCP doco - any other doco
volunteers are also very welcome.


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Theodore Heise writes:
> > nodelete = having sent the mail KEEP the file and dont delete it.
> > savesent = the files named outgoing.s* appear in the "sent replies" folder.
>
> So savesent puts it in "Sent replies" and nodelete leaves it
> in the "Mail replies" folder?  If you set both you'll have 2
> copies of sent mail--do I have that right?

You get two copies, and one of them keeps getting sent (and
you get an extra copy each time it's sent).  You almost never
want nodelete on outgoing messages (you almost always want
savesent instead).  nodelete is most useful for POP downloads
so you can download one copy to the palmtop and other copy to
the desktop - I now use the IMAP support in LXMTA to get the
same effect in a better way.


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Jim Sanders writes:
> Is there a way to load the jeteye IR driver without putting it
> in config.sys?  Memory is precious.

Use DRVLOAD, available on SUPER.


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Theodore Heise writes:
> > This one had me stumped for a while too. If you change the line to read
> >
> >     ftpd.passfile...
> >
> > it should work, assuming everything else is set right.
>
> That makes sense and I tried it--unfortunately, it still didn't
> work.  I tried the password in passwd.cfg with and without quotes
> and with and without a line feed at the end.  Still got the message
>
>   530 Login failed, check password.

That's strange, cause I use the passfile feature every single
day - please contact me off-list so we can debug this.

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I'm reading the docs to EXKEY and see there is an advantage (with EXKEY) to
starting System Manager with 100 rather than 200.  Is there any disadvantage?

Nothing in the FAQ I could find.

Don.

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Subject:      Re: Software Carousel from flash
Comments: To: "Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM" <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>

Longden,

re:
>If it runs that well off a flash card, maybe I should revisit it....

I'm running SC on an unmodified 100LX and a big CF card.  It takes a LONG
time to switch between sessions IMHO ... comparing it to a DS 200LX w/ lots
of internal mem. that I'm prepping to send in for service.

All in all I *do* like the setup AND my external modem is twice as fast as
my internal.

Don't know what config. I'll settle on, when I get the 200LX back, may go
with the external modem the whole time and use the CF card for back-up, file
download and transfer to and from my PC.

I may move the swap file back to my LX, for speed, but It's working Ok.

I've been switching all my "C:\...." refs to "A:\...." BUT today was my
first day leaving the CF card (in its PC-Card adapter) in my home computer;
so I have NO real data w/ me in my 100LX today :-(   Sad feeling, when
you're hunting for a key phone # and discover you haven't copied the
A:\_dat\phone.pdf to the c: drive!

BTW, for some reason Buddy refuses to load in my current config.

I'm trying to load it in the MOREEXM.ini (may've spelled that w/ one too
many "e's") and I get an error message saying it's not an EXM(!). I know I'm
pointing to the .EXM file and the right drive. The only way I can get things
to work is load buddy.com, in one of the SC sessions.

Any help in advance is appreciated!

TIA,

--tim

CPT Tim Raymond
13th Corps Support Command Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:30:10 +0000
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              Norman Wolfe <norman.wolfe@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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From:         Norman Wolfe <norman.wolfe@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      PE with POST/LX on desktop
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I use Post/LX as my email program on both my palmtop (upgraded 200LX) and
on my "mainframe", an Omnibook 600. For an editor for the email program,
I use Pal Editor (PE) with PostLX on my upgraded 200LX. Unfortunately,
on the Omnibook 600, I am unable to use PE as I get a "not enough memory"
message under both DOS and under Win 3.11. when I initiate "compose (F2)"
So, presently for an editor on the Omnibook, I use Q edit, an old standby.
PE works fine under dos alone or under a dos box in win 3.11. (I use =
PalRun for screen compatability). I would prefer to use the
same configuration on both the Palmtop and the Omnibook. Any suggestions?
TIA. Norm Wolfe

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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 18:54:24 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: el cheapo adapter, furby and fluff
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> i'm using a cheap unregulated 9V ac-dc transformer, also commonly kown as
> adapter, which puts out 16!V unregulated

16V is too high; I think the max recommended is 14V.

You could probably just insert a resister in the power cord to drop the
LX's voltage but under higher current drain you could end up too low V
as the voltage drop across the resister would increase.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 18:54:28 -0500
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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> Liam,  have you tried running Curtis Cameron's DBCHECK program on your db's?
> It may not prevent whatever is causing the problem, but it may tell you if the
> restored file is already corrupted and hence needs to be fixed.

Unfortunately DBCHECK cannot detect all forms of corruption.
My old APPT.ADB checked clean and still destroyed itself.  :-(
In spite of this I still recommend using DBCHECK as part of a backup
procedure; it's the best tool we have.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 18:54:31 -0500
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: game source code as example
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> Does anybody know an example C-source code of a game, which works with tiles,
> like sokoban or such, programmed with the PAL library? It should be freeware or
> GPLed for my learning purposes. Possibly I would like to copy some code?!?

I don't know if it is C code but Curtis Cameron has a demo file on
his web site.  It is at the bottom of the LX games page.
cheers... Russ

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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 18:54:36 -0500
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: LX Cribbage
Comments: To: Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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> Using Curtis Cameron's graphics functions, I ported BSD Cribbage to the
> LX.  As with Curtis's games, it's freeware.  I'd like to convince Curtis
> to add it to his games page, but for now you can download it here:
> http://sdl.continet.com/~support/crib.zip

Thanks, I've been looking for a good LX Cribbage game.
Why not put it on SUPER?

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 18:54:41 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Text Editors...
Comments: To: Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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> PE has an "Only" function where you press Ctl-C and it will display all
> the lines in your document with a specified string. Over the weekend I
> was searching on the net for a windows-based text editor that has the
> same feature, but was unable to find one.
>
> Does anyone know of a windows-based text editor that has the same kind
> of "Only" function that PE has?

There is a windows version of Kedit and what you described sounds like
its ALL command.

  http://www.kedit.com

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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 19:04:36 -0500
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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From:         Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Wed,  8 Dec 1999 17:00:52 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

   HELP Please ;-) I'm on the road, and need the URLs for CIS SMTP &
   POP servers so I can set up POST/LX to send out mail from CIS (my
   regular ISP no longer reroutes from their SMTP)

   Reply off-LIST please.

   THANKS!!!



*
* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**

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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 19:36:58 -0800
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              johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM
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From:         John Carlo <johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject:      Re: Interesting Japanese HP200lx site
Comments: To: Bob Penick <bnj@INAME.COM>
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Bob,
interesting site with a nice pictorial on hooking a Full-Size Newton
Keyboard through the connectivity cables...jwc
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Penick <bnj@INAME.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 8:18 AM
Subject: Interesting Japanese HP200lx site


> I was doing a little surfing and found this site.   Unless you read
Japanese
> the content is a little weak but it has some great pictures of the inside
of
> a 200lx getting the clock upgrade and...... getting a EL panel installed.
> If this is an old link I apologize but I hadn't seen it before.  Also,
there
> is a picture of a Toshiba PHS telephone with an unusual name.  "Peas and
> Carrots".  Can one of our Japanese friends give me a hint what peas and
> carrots have to do with telephones?
> bob
> http://www.portnet.ne.jp/~amaki/hp200lx/
> For the picture of the Toshiba phone click in the left frame on the link
> starting with PHS
>
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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:36:19 -0800
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Hi All,

For anybody looking for an extra/backup 200LX. Just found this post on
the NG.


Good Luck!


--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "shadow_red" <shadow_red@email.msn.com>
Subject: FS: HP 200LX 2MEG--$200
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 23:19:12 -0800

I have an HP 200LX that is in great condition. I have used it on a =
limited
basis. I bought it for $270, but I am willing to sell it for $200+S&H. =
There
are no cables or accessories, though. I haven't used it enough to consider
buying anything else for it. Please e-mail me if interested.

Erik
shadow_red@msn.com





--- end of forwarded message ---




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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 19:58:29 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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From:         Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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> Thanks, I've been looking for a good LX Cribbage game.
> Why not put it on SUPER?

Steven kindly gave me permission to put it on the
games.hplx.net site, but putting it on SUPER as well would be
a good idea.

I've often wondered whether there might be any way of
allowing people to automatically upload submissions to
SUPER. If such a system was implemented, it would probably
save a lot of time and effort on the part of the good folks
who have to maintain the site. Of course, the occasional
inappropriate program might have to be removed, but I reckon
it would encourage the submission of a lot of programs which
might otherwise be lost to the palmtop community. Just a
thought!

 -Mike http://games.hplx.net

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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:59:04 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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I could probably set that up on hplx.net as an intermediate to SUPER, and
then if the file was verified to be of "SUPER quality" <g> we could post
it there.

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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 19:24:36 -0600
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 19:58:29 -0500, Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM> =
wrote:

> otherwise be lost to the palmtop community. Just a
> thought!

I have been trying to do the updates as often as I get enough new 'stuff' =
to
make it worthwhile. I have about three or four new programs to put on =
SUPER
right now and will be putting these up this week. The SUPER pages are =
built
using the super.gdb file via a cool cgi script so I don't know if it =
would
be possible to have a way for it to be done in an 'automatic' fashion. I =
am
proud to be associated with palmtop.net and didn't have a clue as to what
all is involved in keeping it up and going. We all owe Mitch a debt of
gratitude for having the started palmtop.net

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 03:39:10 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Donald Collins wrote:

> I'm reading the docs to EXKEY and see there is an advantage (with EXKEY) to
> starting System Manager with 100 rather than 200.  Is there any disadvantage?

Not that I know off, I use 100 all the time because I find it faster to
type than 200 (as I don't have to move my finger diagonally*). The 100
option in the 200LX is only there for compatibility, I don't think it
alters any functionality.

Real old timers might want to start the System Manager with "$sysmgr" (w/o
quotes), which was the command on the 95LX :-)


* okay, so it seems a bit silly, considering I only have to press two
different buttons, but nevertheless...


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 04:44:33 +0000
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              chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
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From:         Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>
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On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

> I don't have SC so I can't volunteer configuration information relative to modem
> use, but I believe LXCIC will run in a separate SC session whereas CIC100 had
> problems in that regard (this is from the dark recesses of my memory).

One more snippet of functionality in addition to those already
mentioned. I keep a permanent SC area just for use as a DOS
prompt. If I flip from my WWW/LX session (already loaded and
ready to go on line) to that DOS prompt session, type LXCIC to
enable the PCMCIA modem, then back to WWW/LX, the modem will
work fine.

IOW, LXCIC seems to work globally across all SC sessions
without having to load it in the autoexec, AND you don't have
to quit the app that needs it before firing it up.
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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:03:23 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Martin_Doering@MN.MAN.DE
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From:         Martin Doering <Martin_Doering@MN.MAN.DE>
Subject:      Re: PAL for UNIX
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Rod Whitby - rwhitby@hplx=2Enet - http://rwhitby=2Ehplx=2Enet:
>Can you send me details on this ?  I'm interested in testing
>my PAL applications on Unix (as I spend most of my day in
>front of a Unix box)=2E

It's just a first step=2E After writing Makefiles for all the PAl stuff and PM I
started to port PM=2E PM is just a character application, so I thought it would b=
e
easy to port=2E I was wrong=2E There were some things to do especially with file
handling and there a still some bugs=2E It's not as easy to come behind how a cod=
e
works, if you do not have written it by yourself ;-)

In the moment I just comment out everything, which seems to make problems in
compiling=2E So I will get a PAL-Lib with half of the functionality and without
graphics at first=2E=20=


Then I will write a test program for the lowlevel graphics and bring it up on
X11 (maybe, you could support me in this - I'm totally unexpierienced ;-)=2E I
found, that many routines of the lib are very useful, even if you are not doing
graphics (cfg files etc=2E)

I just started, so don't believe it will run in two weeks=2E I could send you the
code, but in the moment it is not in a good looking condition=2E

Martin  mailto:doeringm@gmx=2Ede

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:27:54 +0100
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              Martin_Doering@MN.MAN.DE
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Subject:      Antwort:Re: game source code as example
Comments: To: rlbrooks@pobox.com
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Hi!

If I try to get the http://games=2Ehplx=2Enet page, I alway come to the same page=
 as
http://www=2Ehplx=2Enet/ !!! The same page for http://cameron=2Ehplx=2Enet/ =2E

Is there something wrong (with my cache or the webserver)?

Martin

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:48:13 +0100
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              Martin_Doering@MN.MAN.DE
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Thanx!

Now it works fine! I got some demo-stuff (cdemo=2Ezip), and will have a look at
it=2E

Martin

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:38:05 MEST
Reply-To:     stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch
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From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
Subject:      WordPerfect Works
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Today I went to a second-hand bookstore and found the following great stuff:


1 package of WordPerfect Works for DOS
1 book 'the Lotus 1-2-3 compendium'

-goe-

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:54:51 -0500
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              Steve Soper <ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID>
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From:         Steve Soper <ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID>
Subject:      Re: Native Thai
Comments: cc: hobchi@yahoo.com
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Al,

I don't know if it really will help you, but we have a house in Phuket.
 I'm presently living/working in Eastern Java, Indonesia, and we only
get back very seldom.  My wife's sisters take care of our house when
we're not there.

Steve Soper


> Date:    Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:38:39 -0800
> From:    al chin <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
> Subject: Native Thai
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hello
> Help...
> Is ther anyone on the list living in Thailand
> specifically BKK or CNX ??????????????
> But anywhere will doooo
>
> =====
> > >     o__       regards from
> > >    _.>/)_     HKG.  Tooling
> > >   (_) \(_)    around da Peak
>
> I LOVE ME VOL I,  better to BE, than to have.
> __________________________________________________
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> Thousands of Stores.  Millions of Products.  All in one place.
> Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com
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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 07:56:11 -0600
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              "England, Scott" <sengland@HRBLOCK.COM>
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For sale - HP200LX 6 meg doublespeed, 8 meg & 3 meg flash ram, 2 512k sram
cards, connectivity pack, 14.4 modem, software.  $400.00.
Contact :     William Scott England
              (913) 631-2169
              wengland@iname.com
              sengland@hrblock.com

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Chris Randle wrote:

> If I flip from my WWW/LX session (already loaded and
> ready to go on line) to that DOS prompt session, type LXCIC to
> enable the PCMCIA modem, then back to WWW/LX, the modem will
> work fine.
>
> IOW, LXCIC seems to work globally across all SC sessions
> without having to load it in the autoexec, AND you don't have
> to quit the app that needs it before firing it up.

That is true, because all you do is enabling the card for I/O.
This information is nowhere stored in the palmtop's memory,
hence it works in every SC session, but has to be done again
after changing cards and/or an OFF->ON transition.

If you load LXCIC resident, it just enables cards after every
power ON or media change event, and you don't have to care
about. It is not necessary to load it resident, it is just
convenient.

In your case you could also use the PreOnline=3DLXCIC setting of
POST/LX which would do exactly the same what you do manually
by switching to a DOS prompt session, call LXCIC and switch
back again. Should save you many keystrokes, and you still
don't use LXCIC resident, that is, no memory at all is taken
away from WWW/LX.

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:22:37 +0000
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The time needed for a SC work area switch depends on the size
of the area to be saved, and the size of the area to be loaded.

In my measurements I switched between two full (640KB) SC work
areas on a double speed 200LX.

SC swap file in EMM on 64MB RAM disk C:  1 sec
SC swap file on 96MB Sandisk CF (1999):  3 sec
SC swap file on 10MB Sundisk PC (1993): 20 sec

For single speed I guess you could almost double the values.

I agree, that the new Sandisk CF cards are very fast and a true
alternative to run SC from CF instead of RAM.

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 06:31:17 -0800
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Boy, how times have changed:

>SC swap file on 96MB Sandisk CF (1999):  3 sec
>SC swap file on 10MB Sundisk PC (1993): 20 sec

A 7 fold increase in performance in about as many years, at 1/3 the size and
probably 1/3 the cost (and with better power management).

I forgot to note in earlier posts that the memory chips used in the 32/64mb
upgrades are different than the original RAM.  I believe David Sargeant or Mack
mentioned that they were faster or more power efficient (or both), and have
incredible persistence (retaining data during hard-boot and low battery
conditions) ... another incentive to upgrade even in the face of good CF card
alternatives.

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:18:50 -0500
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              Bob Penick <bnj@INAME.COM>
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Sorry David.  I guess I didn't say it clearly.  Except for the default
screen display options, I think it is a great program.  I have only invested
a little time in trying custom "colors" and really not improved much over
the B/W option.  ( I will freely admit that I don't have the patience to
play with these types of settings for very long.  I'd rather "tough it out"
and grumble.)  A couple of weeks ago I posted the problem to the list and
got no responses.  I think that there is realy only one screen that is hard
to read when the choice is set to B/W and that is not really the most
important screen.  (at least to me)  I'll ask again if anyone has got a good
set of custom "colors".
Thanks,
bob
**********************
Bob said:
> With the exception of getting the screen colors tweaked just right it
> works great for me.

David Sargeant said:
Do you mean you have gotten the screen colors tweaked just right?  If so,
could you tell us how you did it?  Mine still looks pretty bad.

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Goeldi wrote:


"Today I went to a second-hand bookstore and found the following
great stuff:
1 package of WordPerfect Works for DOS
1 book 'the Lotus 1-2-3 compendium'"

I advertised for almost a year until finally one guy phoned with Loutus123=
 manuals.It was Lotus123 2.2 not 2.4,but you can't get everything in=
 life.....

Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Norm,

>  Unfortunately,
> on the Omnibook 600, I am unable to use PE as I get
>  a "not enough memory"
> message under both DOS and under Win 3.11. when I initi
> ate "compose (F2)"

Same problem here - I have not persued to solve it. You should

- investigate the use of MaxDos availlable on SUPER
- check the availlable memory on your OB 600. If you have POST/LX loaded and
there is not enough memory left to load PE inside POST/LX then you get what you
describe.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 00:24:00 -0800
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Comments: To: Norman Wolfe <norman.wolfe@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>

Try running it under Maxdos on your Omnibook 600.

----Original Message-----

   >So, presently for an editor on the Omnibook, I use Q edit, an old standby.
   >PE works fine under dos alone or under a dos box in win 3.11. (I use PalRun for screen compatability). I would prefer to use the
   >same configuration on both the Palmtop and the Omnibook. Any suggestions?
   >TIA. Norm Wolfe

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>> IOW, LXCIC seems to work globally across all SC sessions
>> without having to load it in the autoexec, AND you don't have
>> to quit the app that needs it before firing it up.

>That is true, because all you do is enabling the card for I/O.
>This information is nowhere stored in the palmtop's memory,
>hence it works in every SC session, but has to be done again
>after changing cards and/or an OFF->ON transition.

>If you load LXCIC resident, it just enables cards after every
>power ON or media change event, and you don't have to care
>about. It is not necessary to load it resident, it is just
>convenient.

I have a problem when loading lxcic resident in one SC session.
And it's quite reproducible to a certain point.

Say I load lxcic/l in session 3, no cards in the slot. Then I switch to
session 2, turn off the lx, insert ram card, turn on lx. At this point it
is usually locked up, only ctrl-shift-on brings it back. Once there was
some text about llraserv on the screen, and once it went directly into
diagnostic mode. A couple times my C: and F: drives were corrupted.

It doesn't matter wheter SC loads lxcic during session init, or if I do it
at the prompt. I've also tried a couple different ram cards.

I've trimmed down the system to just the basics trying to find the
problem. In config.sys I load rdt2t and spd31 and run rdswap. In
autoexec.bat, I only run helv.com (replacement system font). None of the
SC sessions load any tsr's.

I've started loading lxcic/l in my autoexec.bat, and so far no problems,
but it would be great to use it in just one session. Does anyone else have
problems like this, or any suggestions?

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 17:33:06 +0100
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Hi!

Have a look at this site:

http://abandonware=2Euniversal=2Eav7=2Enet/abandonware=2Ehtml

There may be a lot of games, which run on the HPLXses! Great!

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Oh dear=2E=2E=2E

Where have I've been fallen into=2E=2E=2E

http://gangsters=2Eorg/

Lots of abandoned games=2E=2E=2E

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:05:48 -0500
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              Darren Frick <dfrick@SNIP.NET>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn Behalf Of
> Steve Soper
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 8:55 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Native Thai
>
>
> Al,
>
> I don't know if it really will help you, but we have a house in
Phuket.

Where?  Does that rhyme with Nankucket?

Darren.

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 17:13:19 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Friends,

> 16V is too high; I think the max recommended is 14V.
>
> You could probably just insert a resister in the power cord to drop the
> LX's voltage but under higher current drain you could end up too low V
> as the voltage drop across the resister would increase.

I think the easiest and securest way would be to buy a regulated
adapter for approx. 15 US$ in the next store..... ?

And it's maybe even the cheapest way! ;-)

GTX
daniel

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> I'm running SC on an unmodified 100LX and a big CF card.  It takes a LONG
> time to switch between sessions IMHO ... comparing it to a DS 200LX w/ lots
> of internal mem. that I'm prepping to send in for service.

Just FYI:

The swapping from one 543k-session to another 543k-session takes
exactly 4 seconds for me. I have the swap file with 10 sessions on my SanDisk
64 MB CF  card.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 17:13:26 GMT
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Hi friends,

does anyone know if there is a converter that converts HPGL-files into
any other graphic format, preferrably into PostScript?

Doesn't have to run on the palmtop, but if it does, it would be fine!
I have to convert HPGL files, made by Palmtop Circuit, into a format
that I can insert into LaTeX documents.

TNX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:02:17 -0800
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              johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM
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Martin,

I downloaded the hppim.exe file that Mitch recommended and I think I've run
out of 'knowHOW'....I want to revise,and update  .adb  .pdb and then reload
them to palmtop
What do you do with the hppim program?

JohnCarlo
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 7:43 AM
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Hi!

Is there a Windows tool, with which I can work on these "*.NDB" Files?
With the HPPIM tools I cannot do so.

Martin

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:26:59 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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>The swapping from one 543k-session to another 543k-session
>takes exactly 4 seconds for me. I have the swap file with
>10 sessions on my SanDisk 64 MB CF  card.

That jibes nicely with Stefan's 3 sec swap on his 96mb Sandisk CF, tho I still
prefer the 1 sec swap he was getting directly to EMM on his internal 64mb RAM.

Think of all the things you can do in the 2-3 seconds you save <g>.

BTW, do you have a "vanilla" (non-SC) autoexec/config setup on the internal
drive in case the CF goes bad?

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    Hi everybody on the list,

since a couple of days I'm not able anymore to adjust the date and time
within the setuo on my LX.
I can't recall what happened or what I did, but as soon as I adjusted the
date and pressing esc-button or on/off again it shows then always 02 jan 80
and time : 12:01 am.

Please help , thanks in advance.

Michael@aol

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Date:         Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:45:29 +0100
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              MARK <mpmark@TISCALINET.IT>
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No I don't live in Thailand but I have bveen there every year the last ten
years on my holidays
guess I like it
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Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Native Thai


> I live in Bangkok, Thailand.
>
> Why?
>
> > Is ther anyone on the list living in Thailand
> > specifically BKK or CNX ??????????????
>
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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:24:57 -0600
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              Roleigh Martin <rol@UHC.COM>
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Does a weak battery show lost of date/time as first symptom?  Can you check both your main and backup batteries?

On a desktop PC that has been the case with me in the past.

Roleigh

At 02:07 PM 12/09/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>     Hi everybody on the list,
>
>since a couple of days I'm not able anymore to adjust the date and time
>within the setuo on my LX.
>I can't recall what happened or what I did, but as soon as I adjusted the
>date and pressing esc-button or on/off again it shows then always 02 jan 80
>and time : 12:01 am.
>
>Michael@aol

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Any chance you accept best offers? Who knows where that would lead us!

Thanks,

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 5:56 AM
Subject: FS - 200lx


> For sale - HP200LX 6 meg doublespeed, 8 meg & 3 meg flash ram, 2 512k sram
> cards, connectivity pack, 14.4 modem, software.  $400.00.
> Contact :     William Scott England
>               (913) 631-2169
>               wengland@iname.com
>               sengland@hrblock.com
>
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After you adjust the date/time (in Setup/F2), you're supposed to press Enter,
not esc.

- Longden





Michael Berrier <Mberri01@AOL.COM> on 12/09/99 11:07:36 AM

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    Hi everybody on the list,

since a couple of days I'm not able anymore to adjust the date and time
within the setuo on my LX.
I can't recall what happened or what I did, but as soon as I adjusted the
date and pressing esc-button or on/off again it shows then always 02 jan 80
and time : 12:01 am.

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:55:11 -0600
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> I have a problem when loading lxcic resident in one SC session.
> And it's quite reproducible to a certain point.

You can't run it resident in another session than what you are in when you
turn the machine back on because there is no cardservice entry point for
that driver to call upon when you are in another session as the driver is
not loaded there.

LXCIC or any card driver that hooks into cardservices should not be loaded
resident in an SC session.

Cheers,
 Mack                            mailto:mack@times2tech.com

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As long as it doesn't offend anyone on the newsgroup.  It might be best if
people replied directly to me.  I also have 2 laptops I am selling if anyone
is interested.

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Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 1:09 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: FS - 200lx


Any chance you accept best offers? Who knows where that would lead us!

Thanks,

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: England, Scott <sengland@HRBLOCK.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 5:56 AM
Subject: FS - 200lx


> For sale - HP200LX 6 meg doublespeed, 8 meg & 3 meg flash ram, 2 512k sram
> cards, connectivity pack, 14.4 modem, software.  $400.00.
> Contact :     William Scott England
>               (913) 631-2169
>               wengland@iname.com
>               sengland@hrblock.com
>
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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:20:22 +0200
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              Leo Theron <leot@ISDIAL.COM>
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi friends,
>
> does anyone know if there is a converter that converts HPGL-files into
> any other graphic format, preferrably into PostScript?

Install a PS printer driver, and print to a file...

Leo

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1. Gateway Handbook486 -
        DX2/50, 800mb (1.6gb compressed), 24 meg ram, 1 pcmcia type II slot,
external mouse, 28.8 modem, monochrome, ext.
        floppy, parallel cable, pcmcia cd-rom, ac adapter, new battery. $300

2. Sharp PC9000 -
        P100, 2 hard drives (swappable),1.0gb (2.0gb compressed) Win95,
800mb Linux, 48meg ram, 2x CD-rom, 56K winmodem,
        floppy, glidepoint, vga color, infrared port, tv out, stereo sound,
scanner(handheld,motorized,color), software. $575

William Scott England
wengland@iname.com
sengland@hrblock.com
(913) 631-2169

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:00:17 -0500
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              Donald Collins <dcollins@MCSWEB1.COM>
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I don't see any reference to LXMTA at his website.  Can anyone provide a
URL that does?

Don

>Someone had asked what LXMTA is - it is Rod Whitby's TCP/IP driver software -
>excellent stuff. I chopped its predecessor (LXPOP) to make ccLXPOP, which load
>email from and to ccMail for POP3 servers. I am currently rewriting ccLXPOP to

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:01:08 -0500
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I'd like to see a message.log that could be reviewed at the end of my
batch file.  (i.e. type message.log | more )

>I'm considering adding a lxmta.scrollmessages
>config option to switch, and also maybe to print out the From
>and Subject lines as messages are downloaded.  Whaddyathink ?

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I've found a solution to this problem.  I'm using Clipvue & Exkey.  Anyone else
using this or another solution?  I'd like to compare methods.

Don.

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:39:47 -0500
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              Donald Collins <dcollins@MCSWEB1.COM>
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Does anyone know of a program, like Norton Guides, that will run under System
Manager?

Don.

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> > Some clarification: LXCIC works on single and double speed
> > palmtops...
>
> Sorry, I just couldn't resist the oppertunity to tease Russ <VBG>

I was hoping you were pulling my leg but I'm glad Stefan made that
statement.  :-)

On a similar matter; LXCIC says it can power up/down modems that have
that feature.  How can I determine if my modem has that feature?
I bought it used without a manual.

cheers... Russ

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> I use Post/LX as my email program on both my palmtop (upgraded 200LX) and
> on my "mainframe", an Omnibook 600. For an editor for the email program,
> I use Pal Editor (PE) with PostLX on my upgraded 200LX. Unfortunately,

I use the Tiny editor with WWWLX.  Its small size (10k) leaves more room
for data.  I also use Tiny as my default DOS editor.

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:48:28 -0600
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:39:52 -0500, Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> =
wrote:

> On a similar matter; LXCIC says it can power up/down modems that have
> that feature.  How can I determine if my modem has that feature?
> I bought it used without a manual.

Just type lxcic /o and if it powers down, it will tell you in the displaye=
d
message. Type lxcic /w to repower the card.

Jeff

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On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Donald Collins wrote:

> I don't see any reference to LXMTA at his website.  Can anyone provide a
> URL that does?

LXMTA is not released yet, you have to go to the section with the
beta versions.  I just looked for the URL and it looks like there
is something odd going on with the redirection at SUPER.

Ted

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 00:02:32 +0100
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Jeff,

> > On a similar matter; LXCIC says it can power up/down modems that have
> > that feature.  How can I determine if my modem has that feature?
> > I bought it used without a manual.
>
> Just type lxcic /o and if it powers down, it will tell you in the =
displaye
> d
> message. Type lxcic /w to repower the card.

This is only half of the truth. It will tell you that it powered down
and the modem is not available. Unfortunately some modems still drain
the same amount of power as they did during an online session. I
monitored this with abc/lx. The voltage decreased permanently. Only OFF
an ON stopped the modem from draining power.

I am glad that in the latest version Stefan Peichl implemented a
complete reset of the modem, it is switch /de, which is the same as OFF
and ON.

LXCIC is a great piece of software, small powerful, very efficient.

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:23:26 -0700
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On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Mack Baggette wrote:

> > I have a problem when loading lxcic resident in one SC session.
> > And it's quite reproducible to a certain point.
>
> You can't run it resident in another session than what you are in when you
> turn the machine back on because there is no cardservice entry point for
> that driver to call upon when you are in another session as the driver is
> not loaded there.
>
> LXCIC or any card driver that hooks into cardservices should not be loaded
> resident in an SC session.

But Stefan has said that it was designed to work in one SC session, and I
had assumed that meant resident as well. Maybe I wasn't clear though. I'm
not trying to use a modem, or ethernet card. I'm just putting in a Sandisk
CF memory card, so LXCIC or anyCIC should not be involved at all.

Mike

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:15:06 -0800
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              "Alfred Lee, Mail List Account" <pc@MDS.COM>
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Have any one encountered problem with too many repeating appointments?
In my experience if I have ten or more daily repeating appointments and
am approaching the 100 repeating events limit, sooner or later the database
will become corrupted.  I have since limit the number of repeating events and
have seen less problem.  Backups help.

Regards,
Alfred


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Subject:        Appointment book record limit?

It's pretty much common knowledge that the palmtop's database engine has a
limitation of about 5000 records for a database.  How does this affect the
Appointment Book?  Will it go south at about 5000 appointments, or will it
continue indefinitely?

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:40:53 -0500
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I got a catalog in the mail from "IGo.Com".  Basically lots of over
priced gadgets aimed at people on the go.  One item caught my eye
though, it's a keyboard that looks full size but only about an 1/8th of
an inch thick.  It's flexible and can roll up.  The ad says...

"Get flexible convenience in a regular sized keyboard

This totally flexible, rubber keyboard can be rolled to the size of a
60mm tube, then laid flat for comfortable typing and works like a
traditional keyboard.  Fully water resistant, the SMART office keyboard
is rugged yet features a smooth state-of-the art material design that
permits easy typing without a sound.

o Plugs directly into your laptop's PS/2 port
o Features 10-key number pad and control keys
o Easily fits into notebook carrying case, 10 oz.

Item #: 45183, $99 (Qty 1), $95 (Qty 5+)"

The order phone number is 1-800-228-8374

Sounds interesting...
cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 14:55:33 +0930
Reply-To:     rwhitby@asc.corp.mot.com
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Mike Kopplin writes:
> On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Mack Baggette wrote:
> > You can't run it resident in another session than what you are in when you
> > turn the machine back on because there is no cardservice entry point for
> > that driver to call upon when you are in another session as the driver is
> > not loaded there.
> >
> > LXCIC or any card driver that hooks into cardservices should not be loaded
> > resident in an SC session.
>
> But Stefan has said that it was designed to work in one SC session, and I
> had assumed that meant resident as well. Maybe I wasn't clear though. I'm
> not trying to use a modem, or ethernet card. I'm just putting in a Sandisk
> CF memory card, so LXCIC or anyCIC should not be involved at all.

It goes like this:

1/ You load LXCIC resident in one SC session - it tells
CardServices (which is outside of SC and always resident) to
call a certain routine whenever a card is changed.

2/ Card services stores the address of that routine.

3/ You switch to another session.  SC moves the code for that
certain routine is now on disk or in EMS instead of being in
real memory, and some other random code is at the address
where the routine used to be (and still would be if you
switched back to the original SC session).

4/ You change cards (doesn't matter what card, LXCIC still has
to interrogate it to see if it's a modem or network card).
Card services retrieves the address of the routine that LXCIC
told it about, and duly calls the routine.

5/ Unfortunately, some other random code is now at that
address (cause you have switched SC sessions), so something
random (and usually bad) happens.  Note that in a worst case
this could wipe all the data in your C drive.

Now you can see why when you load LXCIC resident in one
session, and then swap a card (or even turn the palmtop off or
on) in a different session can cause the machine to lock up.

If you load LXCIC resident before starting SC, then the
special routine is always at the correct address, and only
good things happen.


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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:55:02 -0800
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              al chin <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
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ware do yu hang out?????
I in CNX right now

Do yu know of a local electrical adapter for the LX
If so, specks pls
TIA

Dis singha for yu :)



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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:32:14 -0700
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              Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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Ah ha, now I have a much better understanding of what lxcic is doing.
Thanks for the detailed explanation. I'm moving it permanently to
autoexec.bat.

Mike Kopplin

> If you load LXCIC resident before starting SC, then the
> special routine is always at the correct address, and only
> good things happen.

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Date:         Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:57:05 -0800
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Sounds goo
wat'll it kost????



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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Longden,

> If it runs that well off a flash card, maybe I should revisit it now that I have
> a 48mb CF Sandisk myself (much faster and less power hungry than my old 20mb
> Kingston).  I have a 6mb 200LX, with only 3mb to spare for downloads and fast
> scratch space, and didn't expect to run SC with less than 5-10mb of free space
> (of which I have easily on my flash card).  Now if only my credit card has as
> much resource .....

Exactly my setup... except that I now have a 64MB CF Sandisk. Before
this, I also used a 48 MB CD Sandisk, and it was exactly as fast as my
new 64 MB.

My 200LX is also a 6MB one, with about 2.5MB free for downloads etc.

:-)

The only disadvantage of running SC on a flash card is, that you have
to care about that you don't remove the card and then switch the WAs.
That happens often when I'm in the WWW/LX Work Area, have the CF
replaced by the modem card and hit accidentally a blue key that causes
SC to switch to WA1 (SysMgr).

Not very bad, you don't have to restart or chkdsk your card, but you
have to remove the modem, reinsert the CF, hit R for Retry (an error
message appeared that drive A: was not ready), then switch back to the
WWW/LX WA. Then the screen is scrambled, so you have to do something
that changes the contents of the screen, for example Fn-Space to zoom.
Then everything is okay again.

I recently asked if there is a possibility to disable the blue keys in
any way (for example use exkey to map the blue keys to Shift-Bluekeys
and vice-versa), but when I tried this it didn't work. :-(

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:16:39 +0100
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              Martin_Doering@MN.MAN.DE
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JohnCarlo:
>I downloaded the hppim=2Eexe file that Mitch recommended and I think I've run
>out of 'knowHOW'=2E=2E=2E=2EI want to revise,and update  =2Eadb  =2Epdb and then=
 reload
>them to palmtop
>What do you do with the hppim program?

I ever used my palmtop as some kind of knowledge base=2E I have all
my importend dokuments with me (passwords, Howtos, etc=2E)=2E Before
I used a PalmPilot=2E But the HPLX is not as limited, as the Pilot=2E
Now I look for a tool for Windows to work with this "Text-Database"

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 02:09:36 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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For those of you who wrote asking me about virtual web site problems, I
recently installed a cable modem and it seems that the machine is refusing
to redirect to the proper web sites for the time being.  I'm working on
it, but no, it's not your fault, it's on my end.

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:12:15 +0100
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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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> 16V is too high; I think the max recommended is 14V.

i decided to buy a new regulated one

> You could probably just insert a resister in the power cord to drop the
> LX's voltage but under higher current drain you could end up too low V
> as the voltage drop across the resister would increase.

so, what is the current drain for the LX on and off? 1A sounds a bit much =
12W

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:32:58 +0100
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              Steffen Wagner <swagner@SMA.DE>
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>>> Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> 09.12.1999  18.13 Uhr >>>
Hi friends,

does anyone know if there is a converter that converts HPGL-files into
any other graphic format, preferrably into PostScript?

Doesn't have to run on the palmtop, but if it does, it would be fine!
I have to convert HPGL files, made by Palmtop Circuit, into a format
that I can insert into LaTeX documents.


Hey,

if you have Linux oder Unix there are a lot of tools to convert
everything in everythinbg else. The tools are known as pm
or something else. I can look at home, if this fits to you.


Steffen



SMA Regelsysteme GmbH
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D 34266 Niestetal / Germany
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Hello HP Patriots "smile"

Leaving the discussion about a bigger screen behind,it's time to head=
 for another reconstuction of the LX.

The to me quite unnecesary IR interface,should be able to be removed=
 and be replaced by a CF memory slot.If you meausere it is on the edge,but=
 I guess the serial port could be moved to the right a couple of millimeter=
s.

To my relative limited knowledge of computerscience,an interface is=
 an interface is an interface.

If that is not true,then perhaps it is not possible.


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Hello HP Patriots:-)

I am sitting here waiting for WWW/LX Plus from Rundel in Germany.

And in the mean time I am trying to transfer my folderemails  from WWW/LX=
 1.1 to the demo of PLUS.The ordinary emails are doing fine but the=
 folders seem to be a tricky story.

No matter how I do I repeatedly get Indexerrors.

Do I have to transfer all the folder-emails (a huge mass)to the ordinary=
 Electronic Mail Folder to be able to reindex the emails?

I really hope not.


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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 12:54:01 +0100
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Subject:      Re: el cheapo adapter, furby and fluff
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For people who are travelling a lot the HP adapter has value: not only is its
form
factor quite favorable (especially the US version with its folding plug), you
also
don't have to be worried about line voltage. Like many power supplies for
notebook
computers, it is self-adjusting from 100 to 240 V.

Ulrich Boche
IBM S/390 Technical Support (OS/390 + e-Business Security)

Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

>>I think the easiest and securest way would be to buy a regulated
>>adapter for approx. 15 US$ in the next store..... ?

>>And it's maybe even the cheapest way! ;-)

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I truly hate to take up bandwidth, but I am desperate. I was working a deal
on a broken IBM PC110 that was posted for sale (along with some other items)
on this list. I have not heard from the seller (in Hong Kong) since asking
for total cost (with shipping) and I have lost his email. If anyone can help
me contact him, I would sincerely appreciate it .
Thanks
Dennis

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I'm just now starting to play around with connecting to a Windows
network, as described in the excellent Networking article in the
PTP (and re-posted on hplx.net).  I'm having a few problems, and
would like to correspond with anyone who has successfully done
this.  I'm trying to connect both my palmtop and a plain DOS computer
to a Windows 95 network.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:25:18 -0700
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              Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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Subject:      Re: Networking and Windows
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> I'm just now starting to play around with connecting to a Windows
> network, as described in the excellent Networking article in the
> PTP (and re-posted on hplx.net).  I'm having a few problems, and
> would like to correspond with anyone who has successfully done
> this.  I'm trying to connect both my palmtop and a plain DOS computer
> to a Windows 95 network.

I think Rod Whitby has worked out the problems on this for the palmtop.
See lxmnc.hplx.net for more details. At the moment you can't get there, so
try later.

Now only if he could work out how to do this on a tcp/ip only network.

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 08:51:27 -0800
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              al chin <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
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Hey nat
dis is heavy
y not just get da regulation HP
one?



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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 18:18:32 +0100
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              paulo.custodio@SNAFU.DE
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> I'm reading the docs to EXKEY and see there is an advantage (with
EXKEY) to
> starting System Manager with 100 rather than 200.  Is there any
disadvantage?

I don't know of any disadvantage, and I know that it does not work right
with 200. I use it with 100.

The only problem I have found with ExKey was with PalEdit - it does not
allow to select text with shift-cursor.
But since I have bought Software Carousel (a highly recommended
upgrade), I just use PalEdit in one session
and 200 on another.

Paulo

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 12:19:40 -0500
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              Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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From:         Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Networking and Windows
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> I'm just now starting to play around with connecting to a Windows
> network, as described in the excellent Networking article in the
> PTP (and re-posted on hplx.net).  I'm having a few problems, and
> would like to correspond with anyone who has successfully done
> this.  I'm trying to connect both my palmtop and a plain DOS computer
> to a Windows 95 network.


I use a DOS based network written by a guy in Texas. The software is call=
ed
LBL (Little Big Lan). It works on all flavors of DOS and Windows. It's mo=
st
unique feature is mixed-mode routing. The network can consist of any
combination of ethernet, arcnet, serial, parallel, what have you. My
desktop is cabled via ethernet to the same network my hplx attaches to vi=
a
the serial cable. Works great!

Check it out at http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/imodes

Regards,
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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 12:49:26 -0500
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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>Check it out at http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/imodes

Now this looks damned interesting! How is it that your LX does it via
serial? Is it to the back of your PC with  NULL cable? It looks like this
thing will work with ethernet and a packet driver as well. It even supports
routing through nodes. Not bad for $70 bux, however, there's no demo.

>> I'm just now starting to play around with connecting to a Windows
>> network, as described in the excellent Networking article in the
>> PTP (and re-posted on hplx.net).  I'm having a few problems, and
>> would like to correspond with anyone who has successfully done
>> this.  I'm trying to connect both my palmtop and a plain DOS computer
>> to a Windows 95 network.
>
>
>I use a DOS based network written by a guy in Texas. The
>software is called
>LBL (Little Big Lan). It works on all flavors of DOS and
>Windows. It's most
>unique feature is mixed-mode routing. The network can consist of any
>combination of ethernet, arcnet, serial, parallel, what have you. My
>desktop is cabled via ethernet to the same network my hplx
>attaches to via
>the serial cable. Works great!
>

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 12:49:07 -0500
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              Cliff Crittenden <d040957c@DC.SEFLIN.ORG>
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Cyber Exchange in Miami, managed by Ted Hubbart has a number of software
titles that I have seen requested by members on this list.

He told me he will mail via UPS at his cost.

This is a sample of the titles: Lotus 123, WP 51, Quicken, Clipper, Fox
Pro, Q&A, and Quarto Pro.

There are one or two each of most of these titles. There were a number of
copies of Quicken.

He also has a large collection of games and flight simulators.

Be sure to specify the 3.5 floppy format and DOS if applicable.

Ted Hubbart
cyber_exchange@hotmail.com
(305)259-5200

14471 S. Dixie Hwy
Miami, FL 33176

Good hunting

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>> Now this looks damned interesting! How is it that your LX does it via
>> serial? Is it to the back of your PC with  NULL cable? It looks like
this
>> thing will work with ethernet and a packet driver as well. It even
supports
>> routing through nodes. Not bad for $70 bux, however, there's no demo.

Yes, the LX attaches to the serial port via the null cable to any network=

node. The LX is then just another network node. Network drives (and
printers) can then be mapped to the LX and show up as another drive lette=
r
or printer port. I haven't actually tried the printing part on the LX. I'=
ve
used LBL for years and got it working on the LX with no problems.
 =

Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 13:28:12 -0500
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              Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
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How does this work?  I have not found a solution to this vexing problem.

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald Collins <dcollins@MCSWEB1.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 12:52 PM
Subject: Cut & Paste between SC sessions


> I've found a solution to this problem.  I'm using Clipvue & Exkey.  Anyone
else
> using this or another solution?  I'd like to compare methods.
>
> Don.
>
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 13:28:12 -0500, Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM> =
wrote:

> How does this work?  I have not found a solution to this vexing problem.

Nor have I :(

Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:22:50 -0800
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Fri, 10 Dec 1999, Paulo Custodio <paulo.custodio@SNAFU.DE> wrote:


> The only problem I have found with ExKey was with PalEdit - it does not
> allow to select text with shift-cursor.
> But since I have bought Software Carousel (a highly recommended
> upgrade), I just use PalEdit in one session
> and 200 on another.


Hi All,

For a link for the ExKey - PalEdit fix, visit my site and look under
X-Finder & TaskBar, Tips & Tricks.


HTH


Regards,

Qman...
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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 12:29:01 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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To anybody having problems with the hplx.net redirections: use hplx.org
instead of hplx.net and it seems to work fine.  For example, gp.hplx.org
gives you the Goin' Postal page, lxmnc.hplx.org gives you the 200LX
Microsoft Networking page, archive.hplx.org gives you Bill Childers's
200LX archive, etc.  Until I figure out why hplx.net is broken, please use
the .org suffix.

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              Donald Collins <dcollins@MCSWEB1.COM>
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From:         Donald Collins <dcollins@MCSWEB1.COM>
Subject:      Re: Cut & Paste between SC sessions
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First, the normal disclamers.  Backup your data.  Use at your own risk.

My method is somewhat limited in scope.  For the most part, the only
program I need to use the system clipboard (outside of System Manager) is
PalEdit.  Generaly I have the SM running in one SC session & PE in another.

Here is how I've done it.

1) I installed Clipvue.exm (which will load/save the clipboard
   to c:\_dat\clipvue.txt) to hotkeys Ctrl+F3

2) create 2 macros in exkey.ini

--- exkey.ini ---
   200
   ; load c:\_dat\clipvue.txt to SM clipboard
   {Ctrl+c}={Ctrl+F3}{F2}{Escape}{Escape}
   ; save SM clipboard to c:\_dat\clipvue.txt
   {Ctrl+v}={Ctrl+F3}{F3}{Escape}
-----------------

3) Run Exkey from autoexec.bat before starting SM
   (exkey -fc:\_dat\exkey.ini)

4) Create 2 PalEdit Macros

; Ctrl+c Save selection to c:\_dat\clipvue.txt
#2e03=#5d00#2e63#273a#2b5c#0c5f#2064#1e61#1474#2b5c#2e63#266c#1769#1970#2f76#
1675#1265#342e#1474#2d78#1474#1c0d#1c0d#011b#011b
; Ctrl+v Insert file c:\_dat\clipvue.txt
#2f16=#5c00#2e63#273a#2b5c#0c5f#2064#1e61#1474#2b5c#2e63#266c#1769#1970#2f76#
1675#1265#342e#1474#2d78#1474#1c0d


The keys used are Ctrl+c to copy & Ctrl+v to paste.  In System manager, it
is necessary to get the data into the clipboard first (via Ctrl+Copy or
smart clip) then execute Ctrl+c.  The reverse is true for Paste.  It is
necessary to press Ctrl+v to get the clipvue file into the clipboard prior
to hitting Ctrl+Paste.

In PalEdit, I just use Ctrl+c/v for SM clipboard & Ctrl+Copy/Paste for
PE's internal clipboard.

If anyone can think of a better method, I'd love to hear it.

Don.

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 14:07:17 -0600
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 12:29:01 -0800, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> =
wrote:

> Until I figure out why hplx.net is broken, please use
> the .org suffix.

You'L figure it out, don't stress out dude :) FWIW, I just checked out
scout.hplx.org and that doesn't work, but www.hplx.org/jeff does work. =
This
is really weird, I can't imagine why it is happening.... I'll cross my
fingers for you as I can't really do much else.

Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 13:12:53 -0800
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              Ed Falk <Ed.Falk@ENG.SUN.COM>
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Found the URL:

  http://www.igo.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=1&prrfnbr=719669

Doesn't look like it can be connected to a palmtop.  Since you can only
connect it to machines that already have keyboards, I don't see the point,
other than novelty value.

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 16:35:14 -0500
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Subject:      Re: OT: Help locating seller
Comments: cc: Class3Dep@AOL.COM

   >I truly hate to take up bandwidth, but I am desperate. I was
   >working a deal on a broken IBM PC110 that was posted for sale
   >(along with some other items) on this list. I have not heard from
   >the seller (in Hong Kong) since asking for total cost (with
   >shipping) and I have lost his email. If anyone can help me contact
   >him, I would sincerely appreciate it . Thanks
Message-Id: <19991210213511.PYAS727@12.72.155.200>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:35:11 +0000

If it was posted on this list, you should check the archives at the website
on the sig line.

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:41:39 -0700
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              tims <tims@SYNOPSYS.COM>
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From:         tims <tims@SYNOPSYS.COM>
Subject:      FS  200LX  2Mb
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Would be interested in selling the following:

1)   HP 200LX 2Mb Palmtop   S/N SG71901120
1)   Megahertz   XJ1144   14.4 PCMCIA Modem (x-jack)
1)   SMART 14.4 Modem (lower power than XJ, but has a dongle)
1)   HPF1011A  AC Wall Adapter
1)   HPF1015A  DOS Compatible Cable

Original boxes for the 200lx, and documentation is intact,
manual is a bit used (edges)  Also have a case logic nylon
padded case that holds the palmtop, ac power adapter and
card modem nicely.

Thought about going the Ebay route, but wanted to give the
mailing list first grabs.  Also, from what I could tell, it looked
like similar items were going for close to $285

So subtracting the listing fees and such, I'd like to get $250
for the bundle with your pick of the modems. Dont really want to
sell in parts (other than the modems)   I can ship DHL from work
so I'll pick up the shipping as long as its a US street address.

The 200lx is in good shape, the infamous "hinge crack"
developed on month 9 of its first 12 months, so it was sent
back to HP and  fixed for no charge.. hasn't been used much
since.  One of the  alkaline batteries that was in it leaked just
slightly, so there is a small bit of white residue in *one* of
the battery compartments (not a big deal to clean off probably
using some sort of plastic friendly solvent?)   I just haven't
done it because I've not been using the beast for over a year now.

Checked it this morning, and it fired up just fine

Reason for selling.. our corporate scheduling/contact server software
only supports PalmOS and M$loth Win CE (yuk) devices, and
for my needs the Palm IIIx is working (for the most part)

Aside:
------
It was interesting to hear our corp. IS people's disbelief when I
explained to  them that I was able to use the lowly 200lx as a
'dumb terminal' when one of our Sun Microsystems servers was
stuck at the boot prompt :-)

Unfortunately, I cannot do that with a Palm Pilot, but haven't had to
since then and when they pulled the local direct-dial in modem, hacking
around on the unix network with the 200LX became less feasible
(as well as necessary)

thanks in advance, pls email if you have any questions or are
interested

 -tim


Tim Schneider,  Synopsys Inc.
Sr. Applications Consultant - Verification Products
Mesa, AZ (480) 733-2130
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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 22:53:43 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: .HPGL --> .PS or .XXX
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Hi Leo,

> > does anyone know if there is a converter that converts HPGL-files into
> > any other graphic format, preferrably into PostScript?
>
> Install a PS printer driver, and print to a file...

Thanks for your idea, it's a good one. But it assumes that I have a
program that can print HPGL files.
Du you know such a program?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 22:53:46 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Re: Antw: .HPGL --> .PS or .XXX
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Hi Steffen,

> if you have Linux oder Unix there are a lot of tools to convert
> everything in everythinbg else. The tools are known as pm
> or something else. I can look at home, if this fits to you.

I also run Linux (SuSE 6.1) at home. Would be fine if there was such a
tool!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 22:53:48 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Re: Software Carousel from flash
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Hi Longden,

> Think of all the things you can do in the 2-3 seconds you save <g>.

;-)

>
> BTW, do you have a "vanilla" (non-SC) autoexec/config setup on the internal
> drive in case the CF goes bad?

Yes. I have on C: an autoexec that brings me to plain DOS only with the
most important drivers (Double Speed etc.).
On the CF I have a autoexec. that first checks if C: is still okay (in
the case the DS driver isn't there the autoexec brings me into a
'restore mode' in which I can reunzip the last backup uf my C: drive
(because if the DS driver is gone, probably the whole drive is gone!)).
After checking that, and if C: is okay, the autoexec brings me to a
menu:

1. check drives with chkdsk
2. plain DOS prompt
3. Run Software Carousel
4. Make backup of C:

Very handy!

I restart the whole system every two days, then check the drives, make
a backup and then reenter SC.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 22:53:51 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: Y80-Bug - not Y2K !!
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Hi Michael,

> since a couple of days I'm not able anymore to adjust the date and time
> within the setuo on my LX.
> I can't recall what happened or what I did, but as soon as I adjusted the
> date and pressing esc-button or on/off again it shows then always 02 jan 80
> and time : 12:01 am.

Try to go to DOS and adjust the date with the DOS command DATE.
Time setting is possible with TIME.

Does that help?

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 22:53:58 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: el cheapo adapter, furby and fluff
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Hi Nathalie,

> i decided to buy a new regulated one

Very good! :-)

> so, what is the current drain for the LX on and off? 1A sounds a bit much =
> 12W

The adapter should provide at least 750mA. But if it has more, no
problem. Only if it gives too less current, it will become hot and
maybe will be destroyed.

If the palmtop needs less current than the adapter _can_ give, it
simply won't drain this remaining current.

GTX
daniel :-)

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 22:54:00 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Re: Reconstructing the LX-A New CF Slot
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 Hi Lars,

> The to me quite unnecesary IR interface,should be able to be removed
>  and be replaced by a CF memory slot.If you meausere it is on the edge,but
>  I guess the serial port could be moved to the right a couple of millimeter
> s.
>
> To my relative limited knowledge of computerscience,an interface is
>  an interface is an interface.

;-)

Nice idea, but that's not possible, I think.
The motherboard of the LX is not large, It reaches approximately from
the 'i','j','m' keys to the right edge of the case.

On the left side there is the PCMCIA slot taking all the space inside
(between the keyboard layer and the piezo speaker).

So everything on the Motherboard is very small and tight packed.
Even if you removed the whole IR sending and receiving circuit there
wouldn't be enough space for a CF card. And you would need a lot of
wires to the CF card and a connector and.....

There's simply not enough room for that.

But what I was thinking of - isn't it possible to replace the data card
in the OG700LX by a ATA flash card? Isn't the data card connected to a
second full-functional PCMCIA-Slot?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 19:43:45 -0500
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Fri, 10 Dec 1999 08:43:46 -0500 (EST)

Yep! That's what I do.

my EXKey entry uses "Alt Paste":

{Alt++}=3D{Menu}fic:\_dat\clipvue.txt{Enter}

(there,just used it ;-)

Cheers...AJKind


19h50m51s ago ...
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Donald Collins wrote:

> I've found a solution to this problem.  I'm using Clipvue & Exkey.  =
Anyone else
> using this or another solution?  I'd like to compare methods.
>
> Don.
>
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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 22:46:43 -0600
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              Steve Dowell <swdowell@BELLSOUTH.NET>
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Hi List,
Just wanted to mention that I DID find a windows text editor that
has a feature similiar to PE's Ctl-C. It's called UltraEdit, and it can
be downloaded at:  http://www.idmcomp.com/downloads/index.html

I loaded some of my PE files into it, and it works quite nicely.

It is shareware and requires a $30 registration after 30 days.

Steve

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Date:         Sat, 11 Dec 1999 02:25:34 -0500
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Networking and Windows

Hi Tom Salwasser,

I too have been using the LBL network software for quite a while to
network my office computers via ethernet.  My HP200LX is also an actual
serially connected node on my network.

My system does automatic backups of all nodes to a Magneto Optical drive
every early morning and I routinely use my desktop keyboard and monitor
to handle file management on my HP200LX.

I too highly recommend LBL for an incredibly flexible network.

The only problem I've had with it is that Windows has no knowledge that a
network is even installed and therefore sees my network cards as not
functioning at all. Due to this, upon attempts to install internet access
software written for Windows 95, Windows will insist upon loading it's
own network drivers and kill my LBL network.

My solution to this problem was to simply install internet software
written specifically for Windows 3.x.  That has allowed me to surf the
web on my networked computers without any problems.

If you've found a better solution to that problem, please let me know.

I'd be interested in hearing more about your experience with LBL via
private email. A partner and I spent quite a lot of time thoroughly
documenting the gray areas while setting up and installing our LBL
networks. Just let me know if that documentation would interest you. We
would definitely be interested in adding your unique experience with LBL
to our documentation, as well.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

BTW, have you experimented with TCP/IP on your LBL network yet?

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Date:         Sat, 11 Dec 1999 00:56:16 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Redirected web sites like http://games.hplx.net seem to be up and running
again.  Let me know if anybody has problems.

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Date:         Fri, 10 Dec 1999 14:42:41 +1000
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: .HPGL --> .PS or .XXX

Daniel Hertrich writes:
> Hi friends,
>
> does anyone know if there is a converter that converts HPGL-files into
> any other graphic format, preferrably into PostScript?
>
> Doesn't have to run on the palmtop, but if it does, it would be fine!
> I have to convert HPGL files, made by Palmtop Circuit, into a format
> that I can insert into LaTeX documents.
I have somewhere lying around at home a program called "Printgl" which converts
HPGL files into as many formats as there are printers as well as to a variety
of other formats. If you do a web search on "printgl" you should find it. If
you cant find it, I might be able to find it when I get home.

If I remember correctly it is shareware.

======================
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davidb@cimatron.co.il
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Ooops So sorry didn't mean to spam the list. I was clicking much too
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Tims,

I'll give $250 for your unit and accessories even without either modem. I
can send check (corporate) on Monday.

Thanks,
Stan Gall
619 E. Mason Street
Springfield, IL 62701


tims wrote:

> Would be interested in selling the following:
>
> 1)   HP 200LX 2Mb Palmtop   S/N SG71901120
> 1)   Megahertz   XJ1144   14.4 PCMCIA Modem (x-jack)
> 1)   SMART 14.4 Modem (lower power than XJ, but has a dongle)
> 1)   HPF1011A  AC Wall Adapter
> 1)   HPF1015A  DOS Compatible Cable
>
> Original boxes for the 200lx, and documentation is intact,
> manual is a bit used (edges)  Also have a case logic nylon
> padded case that holds the palmtop, ac power adapter and
> card modem nicely.
>
> Thought about going the Ebay route, but wanted to give the
> mailing list first grabs.  Also, from what I could tell, it looked
> like similar items were going for close to $285
>
> So subtracting the listing fees and such, I'd like to get $250
> for the bundle with your pick of the modems. Dont really want to
> sell in parts (other than the modems)   I can ship DHL from work
> so I'll pick up the shipping as long as its a US street address.
>
> The 200lx is in good shape, the infamous "hinge crack"
> developed on month 9 of its first 12 months, so it was sent
> back to HP and  fixed for no charge.. hasn't been used much
> since.  One of the  alkaline batteries that was in it leaked just
> slightly, so there is a small bit of white residue in *one* of
> the battery compartments (not a big deal to clean off probably
> using some sort of plastic friendly solvent?)   I just haven't
> done it because I've not been using the beast for over a year now.
>
> Checked it this morning, and it fired up just fine
>
> Reason for selling.. our corporate scheduling/contact server software
> only supports PalmOS and M$loth Win CE (yuk) devices, and
> for my needs the Palm IIIx is working (for the most part)
>
> Aside:
> ------
> It was interesting to hear our corp. IS people's disbelief when I
> explained to  them that I was able to use the lowly 200lx as a
> 'dumb terminal' when one of our Sun Microsystems servers was
> stuck at the boot prompt :-)
>
> Unfortunately, I cannot do that with a Palm Pilot, but haven't had to
> since then and when they pulled the local direct-dial in modem, hacking
> around on the unix network with the 200LX became less feasible
> (as well as necessary)
>
> thanks in advance, pls email if you have any questions or are
> interested
>
>  -tim
>
> Tim Schneider,  Synopsys Inc.
> Sr. Applications Consultant - Verification Products
> Mesa, AZ (480) 733-2130
> Digital Pager: (800) 325-8924
> http://www.synopsys.com
>
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Date:         Sat, 11 Dec 1999 09:25:28 -0800
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I  have (11) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are
in excellent condition. They have only been used a  very few times on
testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg
PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for
$65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! I also have (12)

16 Meg 72Pin EDO Simms for sale. I sell (1) 16 Meg Simms for $15.00 and
I sell (2) or more for $13.00 a piece plus $3.00 shipping . You can send
payment  to my address at:


Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back  the day I receive your payment and let you know
that your disks our on the way. I always send out next day unless I
receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on
Monday. Please email me and let me if you are interested and when you
are sending payment so I can hold your disks for you. The response has
been tremendous and the people I have worked with on this group have
been really  great.  Thanks alot!   Scott

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Longden,
You are so right. I should have checked there first. I was not thinking
straight.

Thanks
Dennis

lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes:

> If it was posted on this list, you should check the archives at the website
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Date:         Sat, 11 Dec 1999 12:53:37 -0500
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Scott wrote:

"I have (11) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. "

When will you get 48Mb cards?



Lars/Sweden

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Date:         Sat, 11 Dec 1999 13:04:33 -0800
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Scott,
I have an ACE stacker card, dble compress 10mb....is there a difference in
using the 20mb you have? ....yours is not a compressed memory?

I use a PC with a mainboard with four 72-pin SIMM sockets & two 168-pin DIMM
...the manual sez...."The SIMM sockett support 4mb,8mb,16mb,and 32mb 5V
single- or double-side fast page or EDO DRAM modules, and DIMM"..."Both
SIMM's in a bank must be of the same memory size and type."
Original specs said:  2 each 16Mb 72-pin SIMM chip EDO

Do your 72-pin SIMM's seem compatible?

Thank you for your reply,
JohnCarlo
(son reports for BeavertonValleyTimes)
RedLion,PA

----- Original Message -----
From: smoore <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 9:25 AM
Subject: PCMCIA Disks & 16 Meg Memroy Available


> I  have (11) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are
> in excellent condition. They have only been used a  very few times on
> testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg
> PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for
> $65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! I also have (12)
>
> 16 Meg 72Pin EDO Simms for sale. I sell (1) 16 Meg Simms for $15.00 and
> I sell (2) or more for $13.00 a piece plus $3.00 shipping . You can send
> payment  to my address at:
>
>
> Scott Moore
> 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
> Beaverton, Or 97006
>
> I will email you back  the day I receive your payment and let you know
> that your disks our on the way. I always send out next day unless I
> receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on
> Monday. Please email me and let me if you are interested and when you
> are sending payment so I can hold your disks for you. The response has
> been tremendous and the people I have worked with on this group have
> been really  great.  Thanks alot!   Scott
>
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              Dave Dix <davedix@PENN.COM>
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Hello All,
        I am new on this list and would like some help on a problem I have.  I =
have a HP 200LX 2 mb (no double speed) and recently purchased a 20 meg =
pcmcia flash. I don't think the problem is with the card since I experenc=
ed a similar problem with a 512K sram card I have. The following is what =
happens.

1. the HP is off
2. I insert the 20 meg pcmcia card
3. The file manager seems to work fine.
4. I hit the "more" (other appl) button and the screen goes blank.
5. The only way I can get up and running is hit "ctrl shift on" I don't =
have to reinitalize the disk (fortunately!) cntl alt del doesn't do anyth=
ing.

6. After removing the card (with HP off) and restarting everything is ok.

I think it might have something to do the fact that I have a :Thinfax 14.=
4 pcmcia w 2 mg flash. Everything works fine when using that card. Perhap=
s my problem is that the computer is getting some conflicting info since =
it was set up for the thinfax which has an F: drive in addition to the =
A:,  and locks up. At any rate, it has got me baffled (which isn't hard =
to do). As I said, this also happened on a sram card. Since I am not very=
 HP literate, or any PC for that matter. I hope I gave you enough info =
to venture a guess what my problem is.  Whatever imput you can provide =
would be appreciated. Thanks

Dave Dix

----------
> Scott
> Please reserve (2) 20 Meg PCMCIA II card.  I am mailing $70.00 money =
order
> tomorrow 11/29/99.  Please confirm you are holding these for me.
> Thanks
> Doug Mc Vey
> DougMcVey@Prodigy.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: smoore <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 10:05 AM
> Subject: PCMCIA Disks & 16 Meg Memory Available
>
>
> > I  have (9) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are
> > in excellent condition. They have only been used a  very few times =
on
> > testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg
> > PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for
> > $65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! I also have =
(10)
> >
> > 16 Meg 72Pin EDO Simms for sale. I sell (1) 16 Meg Simms for $15.00 =
and
> > I sell (2) or more for $13.00 a piece plus $3.00 shipping . You can =
send
> >
> > payment to my
> >  address at:
> >
> > Scott Moore
> > 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
> > Beaverton, Or 97006
> >
> > I will email you back  the day I receive your payment and let you kno=
w
> > that your disks our on the way. I always send out next day unless I
> > receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on
> > Monday. Please email me and let me if you are interested and when you
> > are sending payment so I can hold your disks for you. The response =
has
> > been tremendous and the people I have worked with on this group have
> > been great.  Thanks alot!   Scott
> >
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> >
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Date:         Sat, 11 Dec 1999 13:25:27 -0800
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Dave,
Using my 100LX and installing my ACE flash card, I...
1.closed all applications and turned the machine off
2.insert the card,turn back on
3.press CTRL-ALT-DEL(holding all keys down)
4.type the number 100 and press ENTER
this installs the card ....

maybe this will help you
JohnCarlo
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Dix <davedix@PENN.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: PCMCIA Disk Proble,


Hello All,
        I am new on this list and would like some help on a problem I have.
I have a HP 200LX 2 mb (no double speed) and recently purchased a 20 meg
pcmcia flash. I don't think the problem is with the card since I experenced
a similar problem with a 512K sram card I have. The following is what
happens.

1. the HP is off
2. I insert the 20 meg pcmcia card
3. The file manager seems to work fine.
4. I hit the "more" (other appl) button and the screen goes blank.
5. The only way I can get up and running is hit "ctrl shift on" I don't have
to reinitalize the disk (fortunately!) cntl alt del doesn't do anything.

6. After removing the card (with HP off) and restarting everything is ok.

I think it might have something to do the fact that I have a :Thinfax 14.4
pcmcia w 2 mg flash. Everything works fine when using that card. Perhaps my
problem is that the computer is getting some conflicting info since it was
set up for the thinfax which has an F: drive in addition to the A:,  and
locks up. At any rate, it has got me baffled (which isn't hard to do). As I
said, this also happened on a sram card. Since I am not very HP literate, or
any PC for that matter. I hope I gave you enough info to venture a guess
what my problem is.  Whatever imput you can provide would be appreciated.
Thanks

Dave Dix

----------
> Scott
> Please reserve (2) 20 Meg PCMCIA II card.  I am mailing $70.00 money order
> tomorrow 11/29/99.  Please confirm you are holding these for me.
> Thanks
> Doug Mc Vey
> DougMcVey@Prodigy.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: smoore <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 10:05 AM
> Subject: PCMCIA Disks & 16 Meg Memory Available
>
>
> > I  have (9) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are
> > in excellent condition. They have only been used a  very few times on
> > testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg
> > PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for
> > $65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! I also have (10)
> >
> > 16 Meg 72Pin EDO Simms for sale. I sell (1) 16 Meg Simms for $15.00 and
> > I sell (2) or more for $13.00 a piece plus $3.00 shipping . You can send
> >
> > payment to my
> >  address at:
> >
> > Scott Moore
> > 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
> > Beaverton, Or 97006
> >
> > I will email you back  the day I receive your payment and let you know
> > that your disks our on the way. I always send out next day unless I
> > receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on
> > Monday. Please email me and let me if you are interested and when you
> > are sending payment so I can hold your disks for you. The response has
> > been tremendous and the people I have worked with on this group have
> > been great.  Thanks alot!   Scott
> >
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> >
>
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>

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Date:         Sat, 11 Dec 1999 11:28:52 -0700
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The unit has been sold.. thanks!

 -tim


Tim Schneider,  Synopsys Inc.
Sr. Applications Consultant - Verification Products
Mesa, AZ (480) 733-2130
Digital Pager: (800) 325-8924
http://www.synopsys.com

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Date:         Sat, 11 Dec 1999 20:03:31 +0100
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              Nan-shan Chen <chen@GET.UNI-PADERBORN.DE>
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              "tims" at Dec 11, 99 11:28:52 am
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> The unit has been sold.. thanks!
I knew it! :) Thanks.

Rudi

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Date:         Sat, 11 Dec 1999 20:41:03 +0100
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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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Subject:      Re: el cheapo adapter, furby and fluff
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Bob, this is interesting for the list too

> > the LX takes 9-13V DC, but the LCD has AC?
> > what is offset DC?

> Circuitry in the LX generates AC, sort of like a power inverter that
changes
> 12VDC into 110VAC for operating appliances, etc., in your car. Offset DC
is
> like putting a 12VDC car battery in series with 110VAC power line voltage.
Two
> flashlight batteries in a flashlight are in series. Mathematically, an
example
> would be
>
>   V1 = 12 + 6sin377t = DC offset + AC.
>
> It is the DC offset in the LCD that can cause problems *IF* it is present.

q: what creates a DC offset?

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Date:         Sat, 11 Dec 1999 13:11:57 -0500
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Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:51:46 -0500 (EST)
Hi Dave-

I think your guess is right about the conflict with the Thinfax
drivers.  Try putting in the 20M card, hitting ctrl-alt-del and hitting
Alt for boot options when the screen offers this.  Select the option
to boot from drive D: - this will use the default config.sys &
autoexec.bat files.  If everything works, make copies of those files on
drive A: and add your own customization.  Should work.  If you swap
cards, reboot, and the Thinfax should boot from C: - and the flash card
from its own startup files (A:).

HTH

Peniel
------------


01h53m34s ago ...
On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, Dave Dix wrote:

> 1. the HP is off
> 2. I insert the 20 meg pcmcia card
> 3. The file manager seems to work fine.
> 4. I hit the "more" (other appl) button and the screen goes blank.
> 5. The only way I can get up and running is hit "ctrl shift on" I don't
>  have to reinitalize the disk (fortunately!) cntl alt del doesn't do
>  anything.
> 6. After removing the card (with HP off) and restarting everything is =
ok.
>
> I think it might have something to do the fact that I have a :Thinfax
> 14.4 pcmcia w 2 mg flash. Everything works fine when using that card.
> Perhaps my problem is that the computer is getting some conflicting =
info
> since it was set up for the thinfax which has an F: drive in addition =
to
> the A:,  and locks up.

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A friend of mine told me that two of his double-speed LXs have
expired within one year of the upgrade. He blames the
increased running temp. of the CPU. I'm not panicking, but I'm
curious about other people's experiences. Has any one else had
an early failure? Are there any long-lived units out there
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Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk)



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Date:         Sat, 11 Dec 1999 19:01:12 -0600
Reply-To:     Mack Baggette <mack@times2tech.com>
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> A friend of mine told me that two of his double-speed LXs have
> expired within one year of the upgrade. He blames the
> increased running temp. of the CPU. I'm not panicking, but I'm
> curious about other people's experiences. Has any one else had
> an early failure? Are there any long-lived units out there
> yet?

I am afraid that is totally unfounded as I have never had a palmtop die
that I have put an upgrade in and it be related to the speed upgrade. I
have literally done 1000's of them. There are known problems with the
palmtops dying that have nothing to do with any upgrade as they occur in
the same frequency of upgraded and nonupgraded palmtops. There also is no
temperature increase in the CPU with a double speed upgrade.

I would not have been able to warranty new or used palmtops nor could
Thaddeus if this was the case.

Cheers,
 Mack                            mailto:mack@times2tech.com

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Date:         Sat, 11 Dec 1999 19:14:32 -0600
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On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 00:30:58 +0000, Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>=
 wrote:

> A friend of mine told me that two of his double-speed LXs have
> expired within one year of the upgrade. He blames the
> increased running temp. of the CPU. I'm not panicking, but I'm
> curious about other people's experiences. Has any one else had
> an early failure? Are there any long-lived units out there
> yet?

Mine is a couple of years old now.... I doubt that the 2X upgrade is =
going
to harm the LX in any way, right Mack?

Jeff

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>A friend of mine told me that two of his double-speed LXs have
>expired within one year of the upgrade. He blames the
>increased running temp. of the CPU. I'm not panicking, but I'm
>curious about other people's experiences. Has any one else had
>an early failure? Are there any long-lived units out there
>yet?

My double-speed 64MB unit died at 10 months and was repaired by
Thaddeus under warranty (I paid extra for the 2-year warranty).

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Date:         Sat, 11 Dec 1999 22:49:54 -0500
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June 1998 - my double speed is used every day - memory 32MB within 3MB of
full - running heavy database apps and calendar
No trouble to date.



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://Systems-Consulting.com
Maximizing the results of Information Systems

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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 15:23:43 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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I don't care about a windows editor

> Hi List,
> Just wanted to mention that I DID find a windows text editor that
> has a feature similiar to PE's Ctl-C. It's called UltraEdit, and it can
> be downloaded at:  http://www.idmcomp.com/downloads/index.html
>
> I loaded some of my PE files into it, and it works quite nicely.
>
> It is shareware and requires a $30 registration after 30 days.
>
> Steve
>
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>


Al
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Date:         Sat, 11 Dec 1999 19:53:41 -0500
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Anyone have working examples of exkey using the conditional jump and/or the
<program> (e.g. <Memo> )  usage.

Don.

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Comments: cc: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK

   >A friend of mine told me that two of his double-speed LXs have
   >expired within one year of the upgrade. He blames the
   >increased running temp. of the CPU. I'm not panicking, but I'm
   >curious about other people's experiences. Has any one else had
   >an early failure? Are there any long-lived units out there
   >yet?

Message-Id: <19991212042555.BPLT10418@12.72.162.238>
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 04:25:55 +0000

Mine was upgraded by Mack to 6mb/2x in Dec, 1996 so it's been 3 years.

No problems in all that time.

- Longden

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>Date:    Sat, 11 Dec 1999 13:00:53 PST
>From:    Dave Dix <davedix@PENN.COM>
>Subject: Re: PCMCIA Disk Proble,
>
>Hello All,
>        I am new on this list and would like some help on a problem I
have.  I =
>have a HP 200LX 2 mb (no double speed) and recently purchased a 20 meg =
>pcmcia flash. I don't think the problem is with the card since I experenc=
>ed a similar problem with a 512K sram card I have. The following is what =
>happens.
>
>1. the HP is off
>2. I insert the 20 meg pcmcia card
>3. The file manager seems to work fine.
>4. I hit the "more" (other appl) button and the screen goes blank.
>5. The only way I can get up and running is hit "ctrl shift on" I don't =
>have to reinitalize the disk (fortunately!) cntl alt del doesn't do anyth=
>ing.
>
<snip>

Dave,

I had exactly the same problem a few months ago; list member Stan Dobrowski
posted an excellent response which explained what was happening.  I
archived the response just in case someone else had the same problem, and
no one responded right away.  His response follows:

>Sender: stanleyd@carroll.com
>Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:59:12 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@carroll.com>
>To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
>        Al Creswell <al.creswell@worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: Tech: Help Getting SanDisk 20 Mb Card to Work in 200lx
>
>The EXP driver is cranky and does not like other flashcards in
>the slot while it is loaded. There is nothing you can do about
>that.
>
>You can set up a system where you reboot when changing
>flashcards and the EXP driver will load if booting with that
>card in the slot and won't load when the Sandisk card is in the
>slot.
>
>During boot, the palmtop looks for CONFIG.SYS in A drive first.
>If it finds one there, it loads it and then looks for
>AUTOEXEC.BAT in the same spot. If the palmtop does not find a
>CONFIG.SYS on A:, it looks on C: next. Etc.
>
>So, if you have a CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT on the C: and A:
>(Sandisk) drives that are the same, except that the one on the
>Sandisk card does not have the EXP driver, the you have two
>slightly different boot configurations.
>
>When you boot with the Sandisk in there, the A:\CONFIG.SYS will
>be used and no EXP driver will load. If you boot with the EXP
>card in the slot, there will not be any A:\CONFIG.SYS so it
>will use the one on C: and the EXP driver will load.
>
>
>Stan
>

Hope this is helpful to you!

Al

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Date:         Sat, 11 Dec 1999 22:09:06 -0800
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Hello Folks,

I am announcing here with some measure of pride and
pleasure, that we have received the full marketing rights
for Quick/LX.

David Shier, of Shier Systems and Software, a long time
supported of our platform and community, has announced some
time ago that he is redirecting his company to concentrate
on project management for mobile computers, and will leave
the retail market.

Quick/LX is a program written by Andreas Garzotto a loooong
time ago, and the only one that was not marketed by D&A
Software, since it preceded the creation of D&A Software as
a business.

David has provided generously all the rights to us, and
will direct all sales inquiries to us. We are grateful to
him for his generosity and kindness. He has also been a
steady supporter and continuing adviser to me, giving
generously of his time and advise, and of his vast
experience with this platform, community and other matters.

So, this means we are going to sell this software. In the
next few days I will obtain from David whatever inventory
he has of the program, put up on the Webpage information
about this product and will gladly take orders!

Thank you all for your time and support. Thank you David
Shier (and if you have any project management work in the
mobile computing arena, please do see David Shier,
http://www.shier.com ...)

  Avi Meshar
  D&A Software
  http://www.dasoft.com

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On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 00:30:58 +0000, chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
wrote:

> A friend of mine told me that two of his double-speed LXs have
> expired within one year of the upgrade. He blames the
> increased running temp. of the CPU. I'm not panicking, but I'm
> curious about other people's experiences. Has any one else had
> an early failure? Are there any long-lived units out there
> yet?

This is exactly what HP said years ago when they refused to
endorse the speed upgrade. They said that the increased
speed, being outside the design limits of the CPU, may
cause additional temp build up.

Anecdotal evidence we have all accumulated over the years
here indicates that the cpu does not seem to fail.

It seems that wear and tear does the trick much faster. For
example, we hear more often of a "hinge crack", the break
of the keyboard space bar to function right (a break in the
tabs holding hthe key), and the latch failure. Also, the
"drooping" or "sagging" top is another failure much more
frequently encountered. In addition I hear about an
occasional strange failure where the circuitry seems to
drain batteries like they were going out of style. I heard
of one today which drains even when turned OFF - it will
exhaust two new batteries and a backup battery in two
weeks. I heard similar stories before. I also hear
occasionally of a screen failure.

But a cpu failure due to heat? Nah!!!

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion.
For official D&A Software response,
please write to:  support@dasoft.com
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Jeff,

> > A friend of mine told me that two of his double-speed LXs have
> > expired within one year of the upgrade. He blames the
> > increased running temp. of the CPU. I'm not panicking, but I'm
> > curious about other people's experiences. Has any one else had
> > an early failure? Are there any long-lived units out there
> > yet?
>
> Mine is a couple of years old now.... I doubt that the 2X upgrade is
> going
> to harm the LX in any way, right Mack?

Same here, they are running since years now.

Regards

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My parts are finally all in, I've been loaned a Newton Keyboard too
(Thanks, Bob!) - I just need to get the finish figured out here (I want
to finish these nicely.)

I'm making 15 for the first batch, a few Newton Keyboard adapters, a few
Modem cables (25 & even a couple 9 pin), and a few Interlink/Laplink
cables (3 types; 9 pin, 25 pin, and some with both 25 pin and 9 pin
connectors on the cables.)  Depending on demand, I can make 100+ for the
next batch.

Soon as I get the potting perfected, I'll have everything but the Newton
adapters ready to be made to your specs.  I'll make most of these in 1
foot to 3 foot lengths, if you want an extra long cable, it may take a
little longer and cost a dollar extra or so.  I should be there about
Friday?

I had a part come out wrong on the Newton adapters, I want to re-make
those for the prototypes (about a day extra), and get some feedback from
the Beta testers on those, before going to production.  Current design
has the keyboard connector facing the front of the 200LX, with the cable
at the height of the top of the keyboard;  I want to not block the
Charger input or the IR port;  by the time I finish the prototypes, I
may lower it a little, I'm thinking.  That Newton keyboard connector's
thick enough that I don't want to lower it too much.  And those using
Newton Keyboards will HAVE to pull the adapter out of the 200LX before
inserting/removing the Newton keyboard connector, or they'll break their
200LX's motherboard, most likely;  Don't do that!  <G>  So those will be
about an extra week or so?

  Mark

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I think I had narrowed down the problem to the connection between my palmtop
and my external modem. I can retrieve all (30) mails if I run the it on my c:
with my Megahertz XJ1144. But everytime I tried it with my external modem, I
always get time out error. Any suggestion?

TIA

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              chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
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Chris wrote:

"A friend of mine told me that two of his double-speed LXs have
expired within one year of the upgrade."


Could you explain more thoroughly what your friend means with "expire"?

Has your friend used his LXs in some hevy manner?

Didn't he had warranty?

Did he upgrade his LXs himself?

Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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> A friend of mine told me that two of his double-speed LXs have
> expired within one year of the upgrade. He blames the
> increased running temp. of the CPU. I'm not panicking, but I'm
> curious about other people's experiences. Has any one else had
> an early failure? Are there any long-lived units out there
> yet?

I have a total of 3 double speed 200LXs (I want enough to last a long =
time
<g>).  I have had one for 3-4 years.  The only trouble I have had has =
been with
the screens.

Steve Carder

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On 10.12.99 at 16:35 gthoele@GMX.de wrote:

Sending this to the list also hope it is okey..

>Hallo Martin!
>
>
>>moving away from.. and not when you are bringing the antenna with you
>>in 250 km/h (on a train)

>But how does the train bring my calls outside then?

I am not sure how this is being done. I think there are antennas along
the
rails of the train or something like that.. (Jump in any time
Franklin..:-)
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I have a map that I would like to send to the LXMAP archive.
But Mitch does not seem to be available.
I emailed him but there is no response.

Should I send my map to another adress?

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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I found a game that was a long time lost.
I looked very hard for it and recently found it
on a abandonware site. Well, the documentation
says it is shareware. It is an Air Traffic Control
game in full text mode. So it is perfect for the LX.
Even the zoom works.

Think of it as a radar screen with some flight
corridors and 2 airports. The planes come in
for landing, flight-through or start. You have to
delegate them and to take care.

Do you know Microsoft Tower? This is the
fast LX version!

I can send it offlist and to Super. Shall I send it
to Jeff Johns?

-goe-

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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:13:33 +0100
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>Quick/LX is a program written by Andreas Garzotto ...
>David has provided generously all the rights to us ...

Do I understand right: David made a gift to you of a
program Andreas wrote, and you are going to sell it?

-goe-

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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 10:41:33 -0700
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              Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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> >Quick/LX is a program written by Andreas Garzotto ...
> >David has provided generously all the rights to us ...
>
> Do I understand right: David made a gift to you of a
> program Andreas wrote, and you are going to sell it?

I think what he's saying is

Andreas wrote Quick/LX.

David Shier obtained the copyright and sold it commercially.

David no longer wants to sell it/support it, and has graciously
transferred the copyright to Andreas and/or Avi and/or DASoft.

The result: DASoft can now sell it and another fine program doesn't bite
the dust.

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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:01:20 -0500
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On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 22:09:06 -0800 A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> writes:
> Hello Folks,
>
> I am announcing here with some measure of pride and
> pleasure, that we have received the full marketing rights
> for Quick/LX.

Avi, some of us were wondering whether Andreas might consider updating
Quicklx to include smart caps.   If a full implementation would seem
against the nature & size of the program, at least the ability to
capitalize the first letter encountered after a period.

All the best,

Domingo

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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 12:21:30 -0600
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smoore wrote:
>

> 16 Meg 72Pin EDO Simms for sale. I sell (1) 16 Meg Simms for $15.00 and
> I sell (2) or more for $13.00 a piece plus $3.00 shipping . You can send
> payment  to my address at:

Are these SIMMs available as matched pairs?

David

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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 11:00:42 -0800
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Domingo,

> Avi, some of us were wondering whether Andreas might consider updating
> Quicklx to include smart caps.   If a full implementation would seem
> against the nature & size of the program, at least the ability to
> capitalize the first letter encountered after a period.

Oh, you want an automatic capitaliser? Hmmm.. I understand
Buddy has a capitaliser when you double click on a letter.
But that is another thing. I bet you want both :-)

Well, I don't know, but it is an interesting idea for
Andreas to mull over.

  Avi M. D&A
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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 11:00:40 -0800
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> I think what he's saying is
>
> Andreas wrote Quick/LX.
>
> David Shier obtained the copyright and sold it commercially.

He never had copyrights. He only had marketing rights.

> David no longer wants to sell it/support it, and has graciously
> transferred the copyright to Andreas and/or Avi and/or DASoft.

The marketing rights wee given to D&A.

> The result: DASoft can now sell it and another fine program doesn't bite
> the dust.

Right.

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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:39:49 -0500
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>A friend of mine told me that two of his double-speed LXs have expired
>within one year of the upgrade. He blames the increased running temp. of

See Al, my paranoia has saved me from worrying about situations like
this.  :-)

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:44:45 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

although this is slightly off topic, I hope someone can help me:

I'm looking for a Linux driver for my Compact Flash card reader/writer.
It's the model 'Datafab MDCFE-SR' (made in Taiwan). I took it apart to
see what chipset's inside:
There is one single chip inside that's labeled 'SHUTTLE Technology
EP1284-01 9823D'.

The whole device is attached to tthe PARALLEL PORT of my Linux/Win95
PC.

Thanks in advance
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 17:07:50 -0500
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== From the keyboard of Al: ==
> Sounds goo
> wat'll it kost????
>
> =====
> > >     o__       regards from
> > >    _.>/)_     Thailand. Tooling
> > >   (_) \(_)    around lookie, lookie


Oops Al,

Sorry, I guess I didn't understand the original question.  I thought
you were wondering who lived in Thailand - which we do, we just aren't
there right now.  We don't want to rent our house out - we've got
in-laws, from Switzerland, South Africa, and Thailand living there
while we aren't - another six months, or so.  (My wife has seven
sisters - I know, there was a movie about that).

While you're tooling, if you want to tool down to Indonesia, we could
probably put you up.  We live about three hours from the ferry to Bali;
about six/seven hours to Denpasar.  Going to Indonesia from Thailand
would be an interesting religeous experience - Budhism vs Islam.

What's worse than Fluff?

Have fun,
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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:31:38 -0800
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On 12 Dec 1999 14:39:49 -0500, Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
wrote:

> >A friend of mine told me that two of his double-speed LXs have expired
> >within one year of the upgrade. He blames the increased running temp. of
>
> See Al, my paranoia has saved me from worrying about situations like
> this.  :-)

Hmmm... Sounds to me like your paranoia "saved" you from a
more efficient tool. But I suppose everyone hears what they
want to hear - you hear about the tiny number of problems
(which are not substantiated by more than "believe"), and
others hear the other side, no problems, again
unsubstantiated by more than "believe"... I believe the
potential damage is so minute that it is not worth qubbling
about, especially when compared to the efficiency and speed
gain.

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion.
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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:31:45 -0800
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I have an answer from Andreas on the Smartcaps in Quick/LX.

I'll post it here and also post here my own reply to him :)

> 1) I personally find Smartcaps pretty useless because
>
>    1a) It only can work for English (very simply capit. rules)
>    1b) it is very specific for the palmtop and if you ever type on
>        a different machine it is different (that's why I don't use the
>        Dvorak keyboard layout)
>    So my motivation is not that high

I assume Smartcaps is the doublepunch of the letter which
capitalizes it. I think based on this it works for any
language just fine, Unless I am missing something in the
definition of SmartCaps.

> 2) Jeff has a pending patent on Smartcaps

This is Jeff who is the author of Buddy?

> 3) There is already a DOS version of Buddy that basically does little
> more than Smartcaps, so people can use that if they like

True, but that means putting one more program, with _its_
overhead in memory. I do not use Buddy, and do not want to
use Buddy.

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion.
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please write to:  support@dasoft.com
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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:55:11 -0800
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On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 19:56:37 +0800, Roger Shea <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM> =
wrote:

> I think I had narrowed down the problem to the connection between my =
palmtop
> and my external modem. I can retrieve all (30) mails if I run the it on =
my c:
> with my Megahertz XJ1144. But everytime I tried it with my external =
modem, I
> always get time out error. Any suggestion?


Hi Roger Shea & All,

Try this modem int.:

AT&F2&C1&D2


HTH


Regards,

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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 17:19:41 -0600
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              Rundel Datentechnik <palmtop@RUNDEL-D.COM>
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Gerhard,

I modified Andreas' scripts for use with my Sagem RD 750. I assume
that they should work with the 850 just as well. If you want to try
them out I'd be happy to send them to you by email.

Tom

 > Would anybody on this list know how to send SMS-messages on
 > the HP 200Lx to the mobile phone Sagem 850? I have tried
 > Andreas Garzotto's SMS.SCR with ROBOT and Stefan Peichl's
 > PDU.Com (also with ROBOT) with no success. Andreas only
 > refers to Nokia and Stefan to Siemens S25, so it aapears I
 > am caught in the middle with my French mobile (Daniel, do
 > you know something?).
 >
 > TIA for any help.
 >
 > Gerhard
 >

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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:35:59 -0800
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Hi Lars, you sent email to support@dasoft.com.
Unfortunately, each time you do so, you use a strange
return address and the email bounces. This is now the
second time.

I give up. If you send us an email, please make sure the
return address you use is YOUR EMAIL address. So far I got
a list address, and some other unknown email address. Both
messages bounced. I have no way to reply to you.

I apologise to the list for taking the bandwidth for such a
message.

Best regards,

  Avi M. D&A
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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 19:42:34 -0500
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On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:31:45 -0800 A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> writes:
> I have an answer from Andreas on the Smartcaps in Quick/LX.
>
> I'll post it here and also post here my own reply to him :)

I like and agree with all your answers to Andreas.   I would add only one
thought:  Is the patent on the code or on the idea?  I don't think you
can patent the idea (or Jeff would be rich suing a lot of companies).
Did Jeff originate smart caps in the pc world?

Domingo

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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:32:32 +1300
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Russel Brooks wrote:
>I use the Tiny editor with WWWLX.  Its small size (10k) leaves more room
>for data.  I also use Tiny as my default DOS editor.

Me too. T (as it was called when it was 'internal use only') is great.

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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 02:39:03 +0100
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Hi everybody,

I am currently refurbishing my unix knowledge and found a great
bourne shell for ms-dos.
It's called sh200 (version 2.0 - has nothing to do with the 200lx)
and can be found on simtel (freeware, should definetly be put on
super). Look under system utilities.  I also run gnu awk version
3.0.4 on the lx. It's more powerful than the awk which can be
found on super.

Might be interesting for all running other unix stuff like tex or
perl on the lx and all who want to learn basic unix skills without
installing minix.

cheers,
Reinhard



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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 17:44:00 -0800
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Reinhard Mueller wrote:

> I am currently refurbishing my unix knowledge and found a great
> bourne shell for ms-dos. It's called sh200

What is a bourne shell? What does it do?

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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 22:19:46 -0500
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> I am announcing here with some measure of pride and
> pleasure, that we have received the full marketing rights
> for Quick/LX.

As an unsolicited plug for Quick/LX, I have used it daily for years and =
find it
very helpful.  For those unfamilar with it, Quick/LX finishes words for =
you.
This saves keystrokes and speeds typing on the small palmtop key board.  =
For
example, if I want to type the word "palmtop", all I actually do is type =
"pa"
and then press the right arrow key.  After I type the first few letters =
of a
word Quick/LX recognizes, it offers to finish the word.  If I don't want =
the
offered word, I can ignore Quick/LX and keep typing.  If I do want the =
offered
word, I press the right arrow and Quick/LX fills in the rest of the word. =
 You
can create and edit your own custom list of words for Quick/LX, or have =
it
observe and learn from your typing.

Steve Carder
(Not asscociated with D&A, just a happy Quick/LX user)

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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 04:32:21 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Patrick West wrote:

> > I am currently refurbishing my unix knowledge and found a great
> > bourne shell for ms-dos. It's called sh200
>
> What is a bourne shell? What does it do?

I feel tempted to say "if you don't know what it is, you don't need it"
;-), however, that might sound rude (*not* my intention!) and it might not
be true either.

The bourne shell is one of many UNIX shells. A UNIX shell is roughly the
equivalent of COMMAND.COM, used for doing stuff on the command line or
making scripts (DOS Speak: batch files). Generally, UNIX shells are many
times more powerful than COMMAND.COM. If you're not used to UNIX you may
find the bourne shell a bit unfriendly. I found it a bit difficuly to set
up properly, and I did have some UNIX knowledge at the time. Another nice
shell is 4DOS, available from www.jpsoft.com. This is more DOS like, and
more user friendly, and it works nicely on the LX too.

The problem with using a UNIX shell on the LX is that no commands are
built-in (the UNIX mentality I guess) that means that you need an external
dir (ls) command, an exernal copy command, move command, etc. to be able
to do anything. This means more space needed on the LX, whereas
command.com (and 4DOS, BTW) has these functions/commands built-in.

As for the shell in question, I tried once and it is really nice, once you
get it installed. However, I'm more of a tcsh (another shell) man myself,
and free space on my LX was getting low, so I deleted it again...


Cheers,

Laust

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              al chin <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         al chin <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Native Thai
Comments: To: Steve Soper <ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID>
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Hi Steve Soper
> While you're tooling, if you want to tool down to Indonesia,
> we could probably put you up.  We live about three hours from
the ferry  to Bali;  about six/seven hours to Denpasar.  Going
to Indonesia from Thailand
> would be an interesting religeous experience - Budhism vs
> Islam.
>  What's worse than Fluff?  Brillo

Thank for your invite..   Din't plan on going so far south.
Will be Malaysia to see muslim.
Tanks again  have a happy holiday
happy millenium and all the best>
> Have fun,


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> >     o__       regards from
> >    _.>/)_     Thailand. Tooling
> >   (_) \(_)    around lookie, lookie

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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 20:04:46 -0800
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> I like and agree with all your answers to Andreas.   I would add only one
> thought:  Is the patent on the code or on the idea?  I don't think you
> can patent the idea (or Jeff would be rich suing a lot of companies).
> Did Jeff originate smart caps in the pc world?

I leave this exercise up to you. I am no lawyer. I have no
intention to infringe on his ideas or claims. I am sure if
we did something he would be in the picture. You are
welcome to write to him and ask him if he can patent this
and you can also ask him if he originated the idea.

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion.
For official D&A Software response,
please write to:  support@dasoft.com
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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 20:04:48 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Steve Carder wrote,

> As an unsolicited plug for Quick/LX, I have used it daily
> for years and find it very helpful.

Me too :-) It is a fine program. I had to buy it from Shier
years ago! So I do not mind plugging it :)

<< ... Quick/LX finishes words for you. >>

Two other features:

1. It can replace a string you type. Say I type ASAP. It
will offer to replace it with "as soon as possible".
Harvard Medical School uses this program for students so
they can type some medical abbreviations and the program
offers to enter the full long name...

2. It also has a way to execute "macros". When you type
something, it offers to replace it with sequences that it
actually sticks into the keyboard buffer thus the machine
executes whatever is plugged in as if you typed these
commands on the keyboard. So Open Phone book, search for
something, copy, paste it into a field, etc...

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion.
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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 23:37:28 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, ddvteach@JUNO.COM
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From:         D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Xfinder questions
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Hello, Xfinder fans!  I have started to realize the usefulness of
xfinder, and I have even stumbled into
configuring the viewer and the editor, but I have a few questions that I
need help with (some of
them are bound to be dumb and/or read the manual questions):

1-Is there a simpler and/or more direct way to transfer filer.ini and
pns.ini settings to xfiler than
doing it all over from scratch?  Does it end up having all the same
usefulness as filer + pns + zipray + unzipto?
(I have not been able to find a way to treat lzh files like that).

2-Application manager reports Xfinder uses 44k of memory, but judging by
the reported left over
memory, it is actually using 82k.  Filer is reported as using more memory
than xfinder, but it actually
leaves more memory left, according to appl manager.   Which is true?

3-Why does running exm programs work sometimes, and not other times?

4-How does Xfinder plus xfs compare in transfer speed to say zip.com, or
the irda transfer device from
palmtop.net plus Transfile?   It seems very speedy, comparable to zip.
com, though I suspect zip is
faster, even though I have not done direct comparisons yet.

5-Is there a way to move the /palmtop directory to flash?  I admit I have
not finished reading all the documentation.

6-I have not found le and me on the net.   Are they any better/faster
than using paledit and quickview?

7-How do I configure a default directory view?  I want to see c: and a:
with double rows every time I start the program.

TIA

Domingo

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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 22:23:39 -0500
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Subject:      Re: SC and CF-cards
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On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:22:37 +0000 Stefan Peichl
<Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> writes:
>
> I agree, that the new Sandisk CF cards are very fast and a true
> alternative to run SC from CF instead of RAM.
>

I agree on the speed part, but since I started using my 96 meg sandisk cf
card, I have observed
a noticeable battery hit when downloading numerous files to the card as
opposed to the built-in
c: drive, and that's with lithium batteries.   So I would asume a similar
battery hit if frecuently
swapping to flash.   But I did notice that my programs start much faster
with my new card.

Domingo

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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 20:41:55 -0800
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              Chris Yeager <cyeager@CALWEB.COM>
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From:         Chris Yeager <cyeager@CALWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: bourne shell for hplx
Comments: To: patrickwest@uswest.net

Though it does use UNIX commands... Useless.. Try 4Dos on the HP! It can use
aliases in a external file for identical function to UNIX.. But it far
exceeds the average interpreter... It can produce batch processing in memory
that reduces file opening and closeing time.. Many MANY features. Well worth
useage. I have for 10 years or more..

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----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: bourne shell for hplx


> Reinhard Mueller wrote:
>
> > I am currently refurbishing my unix knowledge and found a great
> > bourne shell for ms-dos. It's called sh200
>
> What is a bourne shell? What does it do?
>
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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:53:17 +0100
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@01019FREENET.DE>
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Subject:      Re: bourne shell for hplx
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On 12-13 05:41am, you wrote

> Though it does use UNIX commands... Useless.. Try 4Dos on the HP! It can use
> aliases in a external file for identical function to UNIX.. But it far
> exceeds the average interpreter... It can produce batch processing in memory
> that reduces file opening and closeing time.. Many MANY features. Well worth
> useage. I have for 10 years or more..

Hi Chris+Laust,

I didn't say that the bourne shell is beautiful, I am running 4DOS
all the time. I wanted to express it is great that there is the
possibility to learn and practice shell programming on the hplx.
You can do alot of powerful things with the combination of bourne
shell + (g)awk + sed + perl + tex (i don't use it) on the lx, but
it is surely not easy.


Cheers,
Reinhard

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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 23:05:52 -0800
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              Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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Hi - I've been trying to get onto the news.hplx.org / news.hplx.net news
server since 11-30-99, and have NEVER managed to get onboard there.

Anyone know what's going on there?  I would like to be on there
occasionally <G>

  Mark

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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:20:44 +0100
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@01019FREENET.DE>
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Subject:      Re: bourne shell for hplx
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Hi Patrick,
> > > I am currently refurbishing my unix knowledge and found a
great
> > bourne shell for ms-dos. It's called sh200
>
> What is a bourne shell? What does it do?
>

it's one of unix' command interpreters (which are called shells).
It's true, if you don't know it, you don't need it. I would even
say that even if you knew it you might not need it.
I don't recommend it as a replacement for 4dos or command.com
(well, for command.com perhaps ;) ) but for practicing shell
programming on the lx, if you need to practice shell programming
like I do at the moment.
Wether it's beautiful or not, it's a standard, and for people
using perl or awk or tex or any other "unix-like" software on the
lx it is nice to have a unix-like shell with it's powerful
scripting facility on the palmtop. There are probably also people
who use linux on there desktops and like to port shell scripts
from/to the lx. Of course it does not turn the lx into a unix
machine.

Cheers,
Reinhard



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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:54:31 +0100
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              Steffen Wagner <swagner@SMA.DE>
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From:         Steffen Wagner <swagner@SMA.DE>
Subject:      Converting phone book and apointsments
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Hai,

is there any program to convert the phone book and the=20
appointments to CSV (or something easy/common readable)=20
and vice versa?
I want to im/export some data to other programs.

Thanks

Steffen



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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:00:21 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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From:         Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
Subject:      Fluff: Double GSM modem bandwith on LX with 2 phones?

> I am not sure how this is being done. I think there are antennas along
> the
> rails of the train or something like that.. (Jump in any time
> Franklin..:-)


Just use any old datalink? Formula 1 cars use them all the time... :-) I
don't know, but I expect thats what they do.

br

Franklin

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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 13:25:54 +0100
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              Martin_Doering@MN.MAN.DE
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Subject:      E-Mail field in Phonebook
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Hi!

Is there a possibility to create additional fields in the Phonebook database to
store (for example) an e-mail address as I could do in the database app?

If yes, are there advantages/disadvantages, like incompatibility for some apps
(hppim etc)?

Martin

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Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:44:30 -0500
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              Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      Re: Quick/LX
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I am a registered owner of Quick-LX which I love and use all the time.

I have heard that someone has put together a bunch of Quick macros to help
write HTM files.  Do you know about them and where they might be found?

Thanks.

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 1:09 AM
Subject: Quick/LX


> Hello Folks,
>
> I am announcing here with some measure of pride and
> pleasure, that we have received the full marketing rights
> for Quick/LX.
>
> David Shier, of Shier Systems and Software, a long time
> supported of our platform and community, has announced some
> time ago that he is redirecting his company to concentrate
> on project management for mobile computers, and will leave
> the retail market.
>
> Quick/LX is a program written by Andreas Garzotto a loooong
> time ago, and the only one that was not marketed by D&A
> Software, since it preceded the creation of D&A Software as
> a business.
>
> David has provided generously all the rights to us, and
> will direct all sales inquiries to us. We are grateful to
> him for his generosity and kindness. He has also been a
> steady supporter and continuing adviser to me, giving
> generously of his time and advise, and of his vast
> experience with this platform, community and other matters.
>
> So, this means we are going to sell this software. In the
> next few days I will obtain from David whatever inventory
> he has of the program, put up on the Webpage information
> about this product and will gladly take orders!
>
> Thank you all for your time and support. Thank you David
> Shier (and if you have any project management work in the
> mobile computing arena, please do see David Shier,
> http://www.shier.com ...)
>
>   Avi Meshar
>   D&A Software
>   http://www.dasoft.com
>
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>

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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 13:52:10 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
Subject:      Re: bourne shell for hplx
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On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Reinhard Mueller wrote:


> You can do alot of powerful things with the combination of bourne
> shell + (g)awk + sed + perl + tex (i don't use it) on the lx, but
> it is surely not easy.

Yeah, but with Perl you don't need any of those other tools ;-)

(well TeX, maybe...)


Cheers,

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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:09:23 -0500
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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From:         Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
Subject:      Re: Message For Lars
Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Avi wrote:

"Hi Lars, you sent email to support@dasoft.com.
Unfortunately, each time you do so, you use a strange
return address and the email bounces. This is now the
second time.I give up. If you send us an email, please make sure thereturn=
 address you use is YOUR EMAIL address. So far I gota list address,=
 and some other unknown email address. Both
messages bounced. I have no way to reply to you."

I am ofcourse using the right returnadress:nxw988e@tninet.se

But I have had this problem for quite some time,did you use the replyfuncti=
on on my emails?The last time my stockbroker did that,their email ended=
 up by Mike Wagstaff!His adress popped up as replyadress!(BTW,hello=
 Mike,yes it was so,NordNet investigated the matter)

I hope this will disappear now when I bought the Plus,I only have two=
 short questions

1:Reindexing my different folder emails so I just can use them in the=
 same folders in Plus.

2:When I try to pick an attachment file the screen goes blank for half=
 a second and then returns to the same page again.
No pick options appear.

I also apologize for occupying bandwidth here.

Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:14:23 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Martin_Doering@MN.MAN.DE
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From:         Martin Doering <Martin_Doering@MN.MAN.DE>
Subject:      ccLXPOP
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Hi!

I also use ccLXPop with the offline feature=2E I just polled my mail from my
provider to my linux box with fetchmail, and then copied the mailbox file to my
HPLX as a mail source=2E

But how can I send return mails? I have have no direct connection via a modem
from my HPLX to the web? Can I produce reply packets?

Martin

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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:54:32 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Jeff's Palmtop Paper article

Hi Jeff,

I really enjoyed your article in the Palmtop Paper. Thanks for submitting
your story.

BTW, I understand that Bananacom is out of production. I think that I
might still have an old copy of Bananacom somewhere from my BBS sysop
days, but where might I find the HP200LX optimized version of Bananacom
that you mentioned in your article?  Dare I ask if you still have a copy?


I remember talk from long ago that Bananacom was a terrific small
terminal program. Many users of my old BBS used to use Bananacom because
it configured itself and also because it was a no brainer to use.

I'd like to experiment with an HP200LX optimized version of Bananacom on
my HP200LX to see how well it works with a standard (although, rather
uncommon now) Unix shell account for internet access and for access to a
few local old style BBSs.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:25:02 -0600
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 23:05:52 -0800, Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET> =
wrote:

> Hi - I've been trying to get onto the news.hplx.org / news.hplx.net =
news
> server since 11-30-99, and have NEVER managed to get onboard there.
>
> Anyone know what's going on there?  I would like to be on there
> occasionally <G>

Email david (david@hplx.net) and get a username and password.

Jeff

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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:54:32 -0500, John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.C=
OM> wrote:

> I'd like to experiment with an HP200LX optimized version of Bananacom =
on
> my HP200LX to see how well it works with a standard (although, rather
> uncommon now) Unix shell account for internet access and for access to =
a
> few local old style BBSs.

Bananacom 'Lean' is on S.U.P.E.R. and is a LX optimized version. The =
author
trimmed it after I contacted him some time ago.

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:42:37 +0100
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Subject:      CIS upgrade for Accton etherPCMCIA card, woth it?

Hello all,

A question to those using Accton ethernet with their HPLX:

There are CIS upgrades available for download at Accton's
website (Card Information Structure descriptor files) This
file is similar to what a BIOS upgrade is for motherboard.
They only mention better WinNT support as upgrade reason on
the webpage and maybe some Win95 functionality.

Is it necessary or recommended to do these patches, before
the EN2212/2216 cards are being used in DOS palmtop? Or it
makes no difference, and thus better avoided on an "Ain't
broke, then don't fix it" basis?

Also: If one knows the pinout for EN2212-1/2 dongle cable
(flat15pin --> UTP/BNC and LEDs), then please write me.
If you have a damaged/bad EN2212 card, I would buy it.

Thanks in advance, Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.


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Martin_Doering asked about modifying the Phonebook.

Yes, you can add fields to the Phonebook app. Open the phonebook file in the
Database app. (type in the complete name and .PDB extension for the file.)

You'll lose compatibility with the Phonebook apps in Cpack (but you can use
the database app) and within the Windows version of the apps. (It doesn't do
general databases).
.ed.

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Thanks for the info on rebooting on the D drive. It worked fine. I am cer=
tainly glad I found this mailing list!

Dave Dix


Date:    Sat, 11 Dec 1999 13:11:57 -0500
From:    Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
Subject: Re: PCMCIA Disk Proble,

Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:51:46 -0500 (EST)
Hi Dave-

I think your guess is right about the conflict with the Thinfax
drivers.  Try putting in the 20M card, hitting ctrl-alt-del and hitting
Alt for boot options when the screen offers this.  Select the option
to boot from drive D: - this will use the default config.sys &
autoexec.bat files.  If everything works, make copies of those files on
drive A: and add your own customization.  Should work.  If you swap
cards, reboot, and the Thinfax should boot from C: - and the flash card
from its own startup files (A:).

HTH

Peniel
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01h53m34s ago ...
On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, Dave Dix wrote:

> 1. the HP is off
> 2. I insert the 20 meg pcmcia card
> 3. The file manager seems to work fine.
> 4. I hit the "more" (other appl) button and the screen goes blank.
> 5. The only way I can get up and running is hit "ctrl shift on" I don't
>  have to reinitalize the disk (fortunately!) cntl alt del doesn't do
>  anything.
> 6. After removing the card (with HP off) and restarting everything is =
=3D
ok.
>
> I think it might have something to do the fact that I have a :Thinfax
> 14.4 pcmcia w 2 mg flash. Everything works fine when using that card.
> Perhaps my problem is that the computer is getting some conflicting =3D
info
> since it was set up for the thinfax which has an F: drive in addition =
=3D
to
> the A:,  and locks up.

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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:01:34 +0100
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On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> > I'd like to experiment with an HP200LX optimized version of Bananacom on
> > my HP200LX to see how well it works with a standard (although, rather
> > uncommon now) Unix shell account for internet access and for access to a
> > few local old style BBSs.
>
> Bananacom 'Lean' is on S.U.P.E.R. and is a LX optimized version. The author
> trimmed it after I contacted him some time ago.

Speaking of small terminal programs, I've used a terminal program written
by Ralf Brown, the same guy who made the rather enourmous listing of
interrupt calls on the PC. It's very small, apparently runs in ~64kb of
memory and has fairly advanced scripting features for its small size as
well as good emulation of various terminals. It doesn't have any built-in
transfer protocols, though, but supports executing an external program
when it receives the Zmodem header (for example).

The program is available from his home page, but I don't the URL handy.


Cheers,

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> Speaking of small terminal programs, I've used a terminal program written
> by Ralf Brown, the same guy who made the rather enourmous listing of
> interrupt calls on the PC. It's very small, apparently runs in ~64kb of
> memory and has fairly advanced scripting features for its small size as
> well as good emulation of various terminals. It doesn't have any built-in
> transfer protocols, though, but supports executing an external program
> when it receives the Zmodem header (for example).

RBComm?

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/ralf/pub/WWW/files.html

Regards......Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia

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On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Eng. & Industrial Projects wrote:

>
> RBComm?
>
> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/ralf/pub/WWW/files.html

Yes, that's it!


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Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:12:56 -0500 (EST)

11h36m40s ago ...
On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, D Dv wrote:

> 1-Is there a simpler and/or more direct way to transfer filer.ini and
> pns.ini settings to xfiler than doing it all over from scratch?

Not that I know of.  The syntax is a lot different.

> Does it end up having all the same
> usefulness as filer + pns + zipray + unzipto?
> (I have not been able to find a way to treat lzh files like that).

Yes!  Probably more...  It should work fine with LZH - that's the
preferred archive format for XF.  To use the supplied finder.ini
without too much editing, you need to have LHA in your path.

> 2-Application manager reports Xfinder uses 44k of memory, but judging =
by
> the reported left over
> memory, it is actually using 82k.  Filer is reported as using more =
memory
> than xfinder, but it actually
> leaves more memory left, according to appl manager.   Which is true?

Are you closing Filer when you start XF?  If you do that, and don't
open AppMgr, you'll use about 7K more with XF than AppMgr+Filer.  The
82K figure is about right.  At least for me, the 7K loss is a good
trade for the power of XF.

> 3-Why does running exm programs work sometimes, and not other times?

Are the EXMs registered in AppMgr or MoreEXM?  Those should always
work.  Also unregistered EXMs will work if you supply the full path.

> 4-How does Xfinder plus xfs compare in transfer speed to say zip.com, =
or
> the irda transfer device from palmtop.net plus Transfile?

Not sure about comparative speed.  I get ~5KB/Sec transfer rate between
palmtops.  Just installed XFS on my new laptop, but haven't run it yet.

> 5-Is there a way to move the /palmtop directory to flash?  I admit I =
have
> not finished reading all the documentation.

Don't see why not.  Just change the "palmtop registration" entry in
finder.ini to your preferred path.  (It's almost at the end).

> 6-I have not found le and me on the net.   Are they any better/faster
> than using paledit and quickview?

Nope.  Without Japanese fonts, they're useless.  If you read Japanese,
then give 'em a try.  They're on the Vector site.

> 7-How do I configure a default directory view?  I want to see c: and a:
> with double rows every time I start the program.

You mean like the Filer split screen view?  I don't think you can start
it there, but if you use the supplied ramflash.xfd file it'll do just
that, when you select it from the /palmtop screen.

HTH

Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:33:15 +0100
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              Reinhard Mueller <molitor@01019FREENET.DE>
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I was wrong, I did not find the bourne shell on simtel, but here:

www.kiarchive.ru/pub/msdos/shell/sh200.zoo

Cheers,
Reinhard


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Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:58:58 -0500 (EST)

Hi Domingo & gang ---

Just realized that I goofed in my reply to Domingo's XF questions.
There was a  reference to "finder.ini".  Sorry about that.  The
name should be "finder.env"

Apologies for any confusion.


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In the Connectivity Pack, the Xlate/Merge function allows you to do just
that
Do ask if you need more info

Etienne
Belgium


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From: Steffen Wagner <swagner@SMA.DE>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Converting phone book and apointsments
Date: lundi 13 dicembre 1999 10:54

Hai,

is there any program to convert the phone book and the
appointments to CSV (or something easy/common readable)
and vice versa?
I want to im/export some data to other programs.

Thanks

Steffen



SMA Regelsysteme GmbH
i. A. Steffen Wagner
Software-Abteilung
Hannoversche Stra_e 1-5
D 34266 Niestetal / Germany
Tel: (0561) 9522 - 270
Fax: (0561)  9522 - 100
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Hi Gary,

<<I am considering purchasing Supersoftware Carousel and looking for a
little advice. I have a 1 meg 100LX with a 8 meg EXP memory/modem card.   I
use
Quickverse for DOS which takes about 2.5 megs.  I would like  to load
all the application but none of the games.

Questions:
Do I have enough memory?
Will it run slow without the speed upgrade?
Any other advice/opinions about Supersoftware Carousel?>>

Actually, Super Software Carousel (SSC) would have run fine in your
configuration -- but with ONE fatal exception.  SSC was designed for instant
automatic use on the A drive or C drive.  At this time (and probably never)
it is not supported on the EXP F drive. (I know it sounds trivial, but
actually, everything is interweaven, and due to limitations of some of the
software, it would take two or three days to set it up for F.  There was
never a demand, so we didn't do it).

As mentioned, Software Carousel will run perfectly well on your setup.

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I'm going to show my ignorance here...
When I go into Filer I see 7 drives (A - G).  I know what 4 of them are.

A = My Flashcard
C & F = Due to my ram upgrade
D=  ROM

But I also have B, E and G.   When I try to delete any of them I get an
error that says "Directory does not exist".

Having those extra drive letters doesn't seem to hurt anything, but why
have them?  Does the fact that I have a G mean I automatically must have
A-F??

Does anyone know how I can get rid of those extra drive letters?

TIA,
Steve




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<P><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">I'm going to show my ignorance here...</FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">When I go into Filer I see 7 drives (A - =
G).&nbsp; I know what 4 of them are.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">A =3D My Flashcard</FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">C &amp; F =3D Due to my ram upgrade</FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">D=3D&nbsp; ROM</FONT>
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<P><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">But I also have B, E and G.&nbsp;&nbsp; When I =
try to delete any of them I get an error that says "Directory does not =
exist".</FONT>
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<P><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Having those extra drive letters doesn't seem =
to hurt anything, but why have them?&nbsp; Does the fact that I have a =
G mean I automatically must have A-F?? </FONT></P>

<P><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Does anyone know how I can get rid of those =
extra drive letters?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">TIA,</FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Steve</FONT>
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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:25:49 +0100
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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What he wants to tell you Lars:

Use smorenbrod, not sm=F8renbr=F8d ...

-goe- (not -g=F6-)

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From: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Montag, 13. Dezember 1999 01:40
Subject: Message For Lars


>Hi Lars, you sent email to support@dasoft.com.
>Unfortunately, each time you do so, you use a strange
>return address and the email bounces. This is now the
>second time.
>
>I give up. If you send us an email, please make sure the
>return address you use is YOUR EMAIL address. So far I got
>a list address, and some other unknown email address. Both
>messages bounced. I have no way to reply to you.

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Lars,

> I am ofcourse using the right returnadress:nxw988e@tninet.se

No you do not. For example, the message you post here the
return addresses are the list, and my own address, not your
own address.

> But I have had this problem for quite some time,did you use the replyfuncti
> on on my emails?The last time my stockbroker did that,their email ended
>  up by Mike Wagstaff!His adress popped up as replyadress!(BTW,hello
>  Mike,yes it was so,NordNet investigated the matter)

Correct, I used the reply function. That was one of the
return addresses I got, the other was something different,
and it was about a month ago.

I have a hard time chasing this, and it seems to me you
need to fix it on your own email.

> I hope this will disappear now when I bought the Plus,I only have two
>  short questions

I have several customers who use Version 1 without this
problem, I think it is your setup, not the fault of the
program.

I won't take more bandwidth to reply to individual
questions - it is not fair to everyone. Send me an email -
make sure it has the right reply address, so I can respond.

  Avi M. D&A
  http://www.dasoft.com

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I have had my 200LX double speeded since I installed the 2x
crystal in my palmtop myself at a NJ/NY Area HP Palmtop User
Group meeting in New York City on January 14th, 1995!  Next
month will be 5 years of continous service with no ill effects
whatsoever.

I got the crystal as a gift from a member of the Japanese User
Group that pioneered this technique when he visited NYC some
months earlier.  I decided to make a spectacle of the
"operation" at the user group meeting with about 12 other
people watching me sweat. <grin>  We had to work from an
article in a magazine with Japanese instructions.  But it had
great color photos and I had some other notes in English.

Ahhhh ... the good old days ...


Stan

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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:05:12 -0600
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Subject:      Buddy not loading in SSC on 100LX

Hi all,

Any reason Buddy shouldn't load, if you do the proper line in the
MOREEXM.INI?

I'm running SSC7 from a CF card on an unmodified, 1 Meg 100LX.

I've seen other advice, in the past, for folks to ENSURE they didn't try to
load buddy before SSC, and things like, "Hey, ensure it's in the
MOREEXM.INI" but I get an error message that says it's not an .EXM file and
I'm pointing to buddy.exm (right path, etc.).

I'm booting from C: *AND* the computer insists on having both an A:\_dat and
a C:\_dat, where is the place I should have the MOREEXM.INI?  I run my phone
book, appt., etc. from the A: drive and would like to keep as much off the
C: drive as possible.

Anything else I should do differently?

TIA,

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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:45:52 -0500
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Avi,

Do you have any more info on the battery draining?  My 5 yr old 2mb
200lx seems to have developed an appetite for batteries.  I started with
~12 hours of run time on fresh alkalines and I'm down to ~4 hours of run
time.  Any info on the cause & possible solution would be greatly
appreciated.

TIA,
Tom

P.S. Mack what's the chance of getting a schematic to the 200?


A Meshar wrote:
>
> On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 00:30:58 +0000, chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
> wrote:
>
> > A friend of mine told me that two of his double-speed LXs have
> > expired within one year of the upgrade. He blames the
> > increased running temp. of the CPU. I'm not panicking, but I'm
> > curious about other people's experiences. Has any one else had
> > an early failure? Are there any long-lived units out there
> > yet?
>
> This is exactly what HP said years ago when they refused to
> endorse the speed upgrade. They said that the increased
> speed, being outside the design limits of the CPU, may
> cause additional temp build up.
>
> Anecdotal evidence we have all accumulated over the years
> here indicates that the cpu does not seem to fail.
>
> It seems that wear and tear does the trick much faster. For
> example, we hear more often of a "hinge crack", the break
> of the keyboard space bar to function right (a break in the
> tabs holding hthe key), and the latch failure. Also, the
> "drooping" or "sagging" top is another failure much more
> frequently encountered. In addition I hear about an
> occasional strange failure where the circuitry seems to
> drain batteries like they were going out of style. I heard
> of one today which drains even when turned OFF - it will
> exhaust two new batteries and a backup battery in two
> weeks. I heard similar stories before. I also hear
> occasionally of a screen failure.
>
> But a cpu failure due to heat? Nah!!!
>
>   Avi
>
> The above is my own private opinion.
> For official D&A Software response,
> please write to:  support@dasoft.com
> and check FAQs at http://www.dasoft.com
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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:12:18 -0600
Reply-To:     Mack Baggette <mack@times2tech.com>
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> Do you have any more info on the battery draining?  My 5 yr old 2mb
> 200lx seems to have developed an appetite for batteries.  I started with
> ~12 hours of run time on fresh alkalines and I'm down to ~4 hours of run
> time.  Any info on the cause & possible solution would be greatly
> appreciated.

Sometimes pulling out all the batteries including the backup battery for at
least 24hrs and replacing them with fresh batteries can clear up that
problem.  Make sure you backup everything first of course.

> P.S. Mack what's the chance of getting a schematic to the 200?

I wish I had one myself.

Cheers,
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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 22:03:02 -0600
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With all this talk about Quick/LX, it reminded me that I have an extra copy
that I'd like to sell.  $20 plus shipping.

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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:12:17 -0700
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Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:

> >   V1 = 12 + 6sin377t = DC offset + AC.
> >
> > It is the DC offset in the LCD that can cause problems *IF* it is present.
>
> q: what creates a DC offset?

I'm not going to attempt to draw a waveform with lower ascii characters, but, an
unfiltered power supply produces a crude waveform described above. More exactly,
the unfiltered power supply waveform (half or full wave) can be represented by
an infinite mathematical series called a Fourier (***note the Frenchman!!!***,
you can be proud of him I think) series. As a crude approximation of this
series, take only the two most significant terms, the DC offset and the
fundamental (1st harmonic) frequency. In the case of the unfiltered supply,
because it has a nonzero DC average, it could be thought of as a DC offset.

Going beyond with only guessing again, unfiltered supplies give me an uneasy gut
feeling that the LCD would be receiving a DC offset (interacting with it's own
DC to AC drive) to permanently polarize the display.

I'm sure glad the word fluff appears in the Subject!

Bob
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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 00:31:26 -0500
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I did my own a year and a half ago and have had no proplems.

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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 00:18:25 -0600
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>does anyone know if there is a converter that converts HPGL-files into
>any other graphic format, preferrably into PostScript?
>
>Doesn't have to run on the palmtop, but if it does, it would be fine!
>I have to convert HPGL files, made by Palmtop Circuit, into a format
>that I can insert into LaTeX documents.

I believe that a graphics program called Hijaak or something similar
will convert HPGL files.

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Date:         Mon, 13 Dec 1999 23:59:07 -0800
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> Do you have any more info on the battery draining?  My 5 yr old 2mb

AFAIK this started showing up waaaaaay before anyone made
crystal upgrades etc, and has nothing to do with double
speed. I noted that as a failure that is heard about more
than anything that _has_ to do with DS updates.

I do not have any solution, but I recall Fred at one point
posted someting that seemed to have worked - which has to
do with backup, pulling all batts for several days and then
resetting. I dunno if it works, or if it is the solution
even...

Sorry about the appetite - it is dismaying, I know!

  Avi M. D&A
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:01:43 GMT
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Hi friends,

Because of the discussions about Quick/LX I became interested in the
program... ;-)

I read Tom Rundel's catalog and there is written "Quick/LX works in
programs under the System Manager and in text-mode DOS applications".

Does is also work in DOS-PAL-applications like PE? AFAIK this is not
real "text mode", but it's also not under system manager.

Tom, maybe I'd like to buy your copy, but I have to get an answer here
first! So I'd be glad if the above question is answered with a YES and
if your copy is still availabe. But If another person wants to buy it
before my question is answered, you have to sell it to this person, of
course. :-)

TIA
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 05:23:34 -0500
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Hello

Concerning the double speed reliability,it seems as  the proof of any=
 eventual overheating of the processor is anecdotal.

But nevertheless,there are some guys out there who have the sense that=
 their LXs have expired due to processorupgrade.

But if yuo guys still have your LXs,wouldn't it be a piece of cake to=
 proof/falsify your own beliefs?As I understand it,this could be done=
 with either solder back your old singlespeed crystal,if you have it=
 left,or buy another doublespeed crystal,
and then try if the LX work again?



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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:49:14 +0100
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Hi!

If I let my connectivity pack run under NT in Fullscreen, everything is fine
(but the "full screen")=2E If I let it run in a window, the application is
stopped=2E This is just true for graphicle applications, not for real character
mode apps=2E This seems to be independent from the different graphics modes (cga,
vga =2E=2E=2E)=2E

Is there a way around? A registry key, for example? On Windows 95/98 this is not
a problem - everything runs fine=2E But at work we just use NT=2E

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On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Martin Doering wrote:

> If I let my connectivity pack run under NT in Fullscreen, everything is fine
> (but the "full screen"). If I let it run in a window, the application is
> stopped. This is just true for graphicle applications, not for real character
> mode apps. This seems to be independent from the different graphics modes (cga,
> vga ...).

Well, from what I know NT cannot "virtualize" the display (I think that is
what Desqview originally called it, but it fits very nicely) and thusly,
it cannot emulate (or catch) direct screen writes done by the app. to the
screen memory (and usually to the display as well, but not when you're
running it in a window) and display them in the window. Try a program
such as MS-DOS Edit, it will fail in a window too.

> Is there a way around? A registry key, for example? On Windows 95/98 this is not
> a problem - everything runs fine. But at work we just use NT.

Not that I know of. It's one of the great annoyances of Windows NT, IMO,
but I guess it was done to make the OS more stable(?).

If the connectivity software has an option for using BIOS calls instead of
direct screen writes, then that might work.


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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:32:32 +0100
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Hai,

is there any site for programming the 200LX/OmniGo700.
I'm searching for libaries (C or something else), code pieces,
demo sources, .... especially for the HPs.=20
I know, that this is in prinziple a MS-DOS
computer, but there are some differences. For
example the build in IR diode.
And are the any informations about the interface to
the Nokia 2110 in the OmniGo 700LX?

Thanks a lot...

Steffen



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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:39:43 -0500
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Sorry,just testing Plus/Lars

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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:48:56 -0500
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Dave Dix <davedix@PENN.COM> wrote about problems with swapping between
a 512K SRAM card, 20MB flash card and a ThinFax card.

The EXP driver is cranky and does not like other flashcards or SRAM
cards in the slot while it is loaded.  There is nothing you can do
about it that I am aware of.  But there are ways to work around it.

You can set up a procedure where you reboot after changing cards so
that the EXP driver is only loaded when you are using the ThinFax
card.  When the ThinFax driver is loaded, you can only use the ThinFax
card.  When that driver is not loaded, then you can freely swap
between the flashcard and the SRAM cards.  So, you will just need to
reboot after inserting the ThinkFax card and then again after you
remove it and put either of the other two cards in.

This procedure takes advantage of a feature of DOS during boot time.
During boot, DOS in the palmtop looks for CONFIG.SYS in the root of
the A drive first. If it finds one there, it loads it and then looks
for AUTOEXEC.BAT in the same spot. If the palmtop does not find a
CONFIG.SYS at A:\, it looks at the root of C: next.  If CONFIG.SYS is
found there, then that one is used and so is the C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT.  If
nothing is found at A:\ or C:\, then the palmtop looks at D:\ and
since this is ROM, it will always find the default files there.

The memory on the ThinFax card is accessed through a driver, so it
appears as drive F:.  In other words, there is no A: drive when the
ThinFax is in the slot and therefore the palmtop will not be able to
find any CONFIG.SYS or AUTOEXEC.BAT files at A:\ while booting with
the ThinFax card.  DOS will have to use what it finds on the C: drive
for configuration.

But, when the SRAM or flashcard is in the slot at boot time, there
will be an A: drive and therefore, you can have a different CONFIG.SYS
and AUTOEXEC.BAT there to allow for a different configuration.

So, make your C:\CONFIG.SYS & A:\CONFIG.SYS files to be the same and
your C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT & A:\AUTOEXEC.BAT files to be the same except
that the ones on the A: drive cards do not have the EXP drivers.  When
you boot with the flashcard in there, the A:\CONFIG.SYS will be used
and no EXP driver will load. If you boot with the EXP card in the
slot, there will not be any A:\CONFIG.SYS so it will use the one on C:
and the EXP driver will load.  Since the ThinFax card is also a modem,
I would assume you would alsos want to use the modem, so put the
CIC100 driver only in the C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT file so that it doesn't
bother to load when you are using the flash and SRAM cards.

This, along with the procedure described above will make a simple and
effective way to have a dual boot configuration that will only load
the ThinFax memory (and modem) drivers when it is needed and therefore
prevent interference with the other storage cards you want to use.


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:48:13 +0100
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> Is there a way around? A registry key, for example? On Windows 95/98 this is not
> a problem - everything runs fine. But at work we just use NT.
>
Have you found a solution to run the HP COnnectivity Pack in a window
(in stead of full screen) under windows 98? Then please post it to the
list ! I'm very interested in that - on my computer the conetivity pack
refuses to run in a windows (there is a stupid errormesage, that the
application can only run in full screen mode) under windows98 and I
realy hat fullscreened DOS-applications!


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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:03:25 +0100
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Isn't HiJaak a bit outdated? I had a few versions of it years ago in the office
and was never really impressed.

I have Paintshop Pro 6 installed (this will of course not run on the Palmtop)
and
it supports HPGL. If Daniel sends me a sample HPGL file I can try to convert
the file into his format of choice so he can see if the result satisfies his
needs.

OTOH, an early version of HiJaak might even run on the palmtop. They came
on one or two diskettes.

Ulrich Boche

Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET> wrote:

>>I believe that a graphics program called Hijaak or something similar
>>will convert HPGL files.

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> But if yuo guys still have your LXs,wouldn't it be a piece of cake to proof/falsify your own beliefs?As I understand it,this could be done with either solder back your old singlespeed crystal,if
> you have it left,or buy another doublespeed crystal,
> and then try if the LX work again?

The problem has nothing to do with the crystal itself as I have never seen
one go bad.  The problem is usually in some component failure of the power
supply on the motherboard.

Cheers,
 Mack                            mailto:mack@times2tech.com

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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:36:40 -0600
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              Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
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Steffen Wagner <swagner@SMA.DE> asked about source code,
etc. for Palmtop programming.

There's the PAL library on the SUPER site (www.palmtop.net)
and the System Developer's Kit from Thaddeus Computing
(avail in print or electronically on the CD Infobase.)
Curtis Cameron also maintains a site with some source code
for Pascal programming.
.ed.

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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:49:15 -0500 (EST)

01h16m25s ago ...
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Steffen Wagner wrote:

> is there any site for programming the 200LX/OmniGo700.
> I'm searching for libaries (C or something else), code pieces,
> demo sources, .... especially for the HPs.

Hi Steffen & group -

Ed already mentioned the sources for C and Pascal material.  For those
interested in Forth, the SUPER site has HP-Pygmy Forth (which includes
a lot of palmtop-specific extensions) and an additional source file
that should make it much easier to implement the HP extensions.  Just
do a search on SUPER for Forth or Pygmy, and you should find the files.

Regards,

Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:57:08 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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I wrote a smart caps TSR. It does not (yet?) support the double
click feature. I never used BUDDY and don't know, if this is
what you were looking for. It's quite useful for me. Download:

http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/smartcap.zip

or

http://peichl.hplx.net/smartcap.zip

Stefan

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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:36:55 +0100
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>I guess it was done to make the OS more stable(?).

Stable? Ha!

-goe-

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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:54:34 -0500
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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Might as well add my comments:

snip
>> Does it end up having all the same
>> usefulness as filer + pns + zipray + unzipto?
>> (I have not been able to find a way to treat lzh files like that).
>>
> Yes!  Probably more...  It should work fine with LZH - that's the
> preferred archive format for XF.  To use the supplied finder.ini
> without too much editing, you need to have LHA in your path.
>
XFinder is far more useful. Because XFinder treats .zip, .lzh and .arc archives
as directories, you can browse through them just as you would a directory, view
or run individual files and extract/add files simply by copying them from/to
another directory.

snip
>> 4-How does Xfinder plus xfs compare in transfer speed to say zip.com, =
or
>> the irda transfer device from palmtop.net plus Transfile?
>>
> Not sure about comparative speed.  I get ~5KB/Sec transfer rate between
> palmtops.  Just installed XFS on my new laptop, but haven't run it yet.
>
I used to use zip.com, but no longer since I found XFinder. My experience has
been that XFinder can be marginally slower than zip.com when transferring files
from/to my ramdisk (c:) but marginally faster when transferring files from/to my
30 Mb Sandisk CF disk (a:). The real value here is that the ability to transfer
files is built in to your file browser/program launcher/archive manager/GUI. As
with archives, XFinder treats remote drives, directories and files as if they
were local, so you can transfer files between machines simply by copying them
from one drive/directory to another. If your desktop or laptop is on a network,
you can see the network drives on your palmtop too. And xfs apparently runs in
DOS or in the DOS windows of *all* versions of Windows. (Hmm! I wonder if it
will run on a Mac, in FreeDOS under MacBochs Pentium emulation?)

snip
>> 7-How do I configure a default directory view?  I want to see c: and a:
>> with double rows every time I start the program.
>>
> You mean like the Filer split screen view?  I don't think you can start
> it there, but if you use the supplied ramflash.xfd file it'll do just
> that, when you select it from the /palmtop screen.
>
Open your finder.env in Memo and look for the section named "Icon/List/Detail
mode and Full/Split screen". It should look something like this:

%w     01020

The first digit chooses whether the palmtop screen starts split or not (0=full,
1=split).
The second digit makes the same choice for all other screens.
The third digit chooses the display mode for the palmtop screen (0=icons,
1=list, 2=detailed).
The forth digit chooses the display mode for the right window, if a split
screen.
The fifth digit chooses the display mode for the left window, if a split screen.

So in the example above, the palmtop screen starts full screen in icon mode, and
all other screens start split screen with detailed display on the right and
icons on the left.

Bruce in Toronto

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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:46:34 -0500
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              "Edward J. Morgan" <Lungs@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:24:33 -1000 (HST)


Hi Daniel:

I can partially answer the question.

Quick/LX works fine with PE.

I wanted it to use the @p function to search <Phone> and paste
a clip into PE.  Don't think it works.

However, PE is fine as a strict editor.

I start PE under Maxdos.

I am "in the country" watching the Geminids meteor
shower (Quick/LX just prompted me with spelling of Geminids)

I thus did not have the documentation handy to see that it may
need SysMgr.

IF you use it correctly, it is great.  I woold not use it a a
spell checker or to fill in most words.

I use it for Capitalized unusual names and abbreviations like
GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) (Quick/LX did that).

I want to be able to use macros better.

Hope this helps.

Aloha, Ed Morgan  Honolulu, Hawaii Lungs@ATTGlobal.Net


07h22m50s ago ...
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:01:43 +0000 (GMT), Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi friends,
>
> Because of the discussions about Quick/LX I became interested in the
> program... ;-)
>
> I read Tom Rundel's catalog and there is written "Quick/LX works in
> programs under the System Manager and in text-mode DOS applications".
>
> Does is also work in DOS-PAL-applications like PE? AFAIK this is not
> real "text mode", but it's also not under system manager.
>
> Tom, maybe I'd like to buy your copy, but I have to get an answer here
> first! So I'd be glad if the above question is answered with a YES and
> if your copy is still availabe. But If another person wants to buy it
> before my question is answered, you have to sell it to this person, of
> course. :-)
>
> TIA
> daniel
>
> --
>
> Daniel Hertrich                 d.hertrich@gmx.de
> homepage:                  http://daniel.hplx.net
> telephone:                   +49 (0)177 795 55 49
>
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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 18:48:50 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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I removed SMARTCAP from my homepage. I really don't want to get
into trouble with Jeffery Mattox, who did a great job in
writing BUDDY. I also don't want to copy BUDDY.

Besides, as Longden pointed out, there is a problem in MEMO and
NOTETAKER concerning upper case after :!?

I'll try to fix that and name the new version AUTOCAPS. Please
be patient.

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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:59:27 -0600
Reply-To:     Joseph Chen <chenj@nortelnetworks.com>
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From:         Joseph Chen <chenj@NORTELNETWORKS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Anyone use a HP + WWW/LX + TELNET/LX on SprintPCS's new
              wireless data services.
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Hi, this is a reply to a message from Dan about a month ago asking
if anyone has hooked up the HP200LX using WWW/LX to SprintPCS's new
wireless web.

I just tried it at a local Sprint PCS store on the Qualcomm 2760 (dual
band) phone, and it worked fine.  I used the HP connectivity cable, a=20
null modem adapter, gender changer and the Qualcomm 1960/2760 data=20
connection kit.

The WWW/LX was setup to use 'ISP using PPP with PAP or CHAP' with
the following parameters:
   - Modem type: External
   - Modem: checked
   - Baud: 9600 (the 19200 setting worked, but it was flaky)
   - Communication: PPP

After typing in 'WWW', it took about 20 seconds for the dialing,=20
connection, handshaking to take place, then HV was brought up and
I could browse around.  I had a Demo version of WWW/LX, so I couldn't=20
do much from there, but the connection worked fine.

Plus I was able to dial into my work's modem port using HP200's DataComm
program.

All in all, I was quite surprised that everything came together and=20
worked, and I was happy about the transfer rate.  I'll be registering
for the WWW/LX program and SprintPCS's service and trying more later.

           Regards,
             Joseph Chen
               joechen@cheninfo.com


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>Date:         Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:40:45 -0600
>Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
>              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
>Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>From:         Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>=20
>Subject:      Anyone use a HP + WWW/LX + TELNET/LX on SprintPCS's new wire=
less
>              data services.
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit=20
>
>All,
>
>Im looking at the new wireless web services offered by SprintPCS and it
>seems that a number of their phones (including the Qualcomm 1960/2760 whic=
h
>are $99/$129) are full 14.4 data/fax modems that use an AT command set, et=
c.
>So im curious if anyone has experimented with using one of this service wi=
th
>a data cable connected to an HP 100/200lx via serial cable for net access.
>
>Im looking for a wireless telnet solution for accessing routers. :)  and
>this seems pretty slick as it gives wireless 14.4 access for $9.99 a month
>(in addition to your normal SprintPCS phone service).=20
>
>Thanks,=20
>
>Dan
>driden@stlnet.com
>
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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:19:44 -0500
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: Anyone use a HP + WWW/LX + TELNET/LX on SprintPCS's new
              wireless data services.
Comments: To: Joseph Chen <chenj@nortelnetworks.com>

Hi,

(I think I may have sent a blank message.. sorry.)

A few questions:

Was the speed actually usuable for browsing?
Any idea what Sprint is charging for this service and the phone?
Did the phone accept AT commands (I assume yes)?
How were the commands different for wireless web and regular modem to modem
with datacomm?


Please keep us informed of your progress with this as I am very interested.
Thanks for the info posted thus far.



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joseph Chen mailto:chenj@NORTELNETWORKS.COM
>Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 1:59 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: HPLX-L Anyone use a HP + WWW/LX + TELNET/LX on
>SprintPCS's new wireless data services.
>
>
>Hi, this is a reply to a message from Dan about a month ago asking
>if anyone has hooked up the HP200LX using WWW/LX to SprintPCS's new
>wireless web.
>
>I just tried it at a local Sprint PCS store on the Qualcomm 2760 (dual
>band) phone, and it worked fine.  I used the HP connectivity cable, a
>null modem adapter, gender changer and the Qualcomm 1960/2760 data
>connection kit.
>
>The WWW/LX was setup to use 'ISP using PPP with PAP or CHAP' with
>the following parameters:
>   - Modem type: External
>   - Modem: checked
>   - Baud: 9600 (the 19200 setting worked, but it was flaky)
>   - Communication: PPP
>
>After typing in 'WWW', it took about 20 seconds for the dialing,
>connection, handshaking to take place, then HV was brought up and
>I could browse around.  I had a Demo version of WWW/LX, so I couldn't
>do much from there, but the connection worked fine.
>
>Plus I was able to dial into my work's modem port using
>HP200's DataComm
>program.
>
>All in all, I was quite surprised that everything came together and
>worked, and I was happy about the transfer rate.  I'll be registering
>for the WWW/LX program and SprintPCS's service and trying more later.
>
>           Regards,
>             Joseph Chen
>               joechen@cheninfo.com
>
>
>===============================================================
>==========
>>Date:         Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:40:45 -0600
>>Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
>>              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
>>Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>>From:         Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
>>Subject:      Anyone use a HP + WWW/LX + TELNET/LX on
>SprintPCS's new wireless
>>              data services.
>>MIME-Version: 1.0
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>
>>All,
>>
>>Im looking at the new wireless web services offered by
>SprintPCS and it
>>seems that a number of their phones (including the Qualcomm
>1960/2760 which
>>are $99/$129) are full 14.4 data/fax modems that use an AT
>command set, etc.
>>So im curious if anyone has experimented with using one of
>this service with
>>a data cable connected to an HP 100/200lx via serial cable
>for net access.
>>
>>Im looking for a wireless telnet solution for accessing
>routers. :)  and
>>this seems pretty slick as it gives wireless 14.4 access for
>$9.99 a month
>>(in addition to your normal SprintPCS phone service).
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Dan
>>driden@stlnet.com
>>
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>
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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:37:11 -0600
Reply-To:     Joseph Chen <chenj@nortelnetworks.com>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Joseph Chen <chenj@NORTELNETWORKS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Anyone use a HP + WWW/LX + TELNET/LX on SprintPCS's new
              wireless data services.
Comments: To: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ed,

  The speed was reasonable to me.  I have not registered WWW/LX, so I could=
 only
access 1 page, then it would hang on me, so I checked out the speed by dial=
ing into
my work modem.  I was able to check mail and read usenet, and the speed was=
 about=20
14kbps.

  One thing I noticed was that the information came in bursts.  So, reading=
 email
and usenet was okay, but typing in an editor (say VI) was a bit slow, since=
 each
key press was echoed back in a burst.  It was still usable, though.

  Sprint is charging $60 for 300 minutes per month.  It's got more expensiv=
e plans
like $90 for 500 mins, etc.  The # of minutes can be used for voice or data=
, and
it's under the "Free & Clear" plan, which means no roaming and long distanc=
e calls
are free.

  Yes, the phone accepted AT commands.  It basically emulated an external m=
odem,
and the HP thinks it's talking to an modem on a serial port (including hear=
ing a
dial tone and all).

              Regards,
                Joseph Chen
                  joechen@cheninfo.com


In message "Re: Anyone use a HP + WWW/LX + TELNET/LX on SprintPCS's new wir=
eless          data services.",=20
"Ed Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> writes:

>Hi,
>
>(I think I may have sent a blank message.. sorry.)
>
>A few questions:
>
>Was the speed actually usuable for browsing?
>Any idea what Sprint is charging for this service and the phone?
>Did the phone accept AT commands (I assume yes)?
>How were the commands different for wireless web and regular modem to mode=
m
>with datacomm?
>
>
>Please keep us informed of your progress with this as I am very interested=
.
>Thanks for the info posted thus far.
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Joseph Chen mailto:chenj@NORTELNETWORKS.COM
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 1:59 PM
>>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>>Subject: Re: HPLX-L Anyone use a HP + WWW/LX + TELNET/LX on
>>SprintPCS's new wireless data services.
>>
>>
>>Hi, this is a reply to a message from Dan about a month ago asking
>>if anyone has hooked up the HP200LX using WWW/LX to SprintPCS's new
>>wireless web.
>>
>>I just tried it at a local Sprint PCS store on the Qualcomm 2760 (dual
>>band) phone, and it worked fine.  I used the HP connectivity cable, a
>>null modem adapter, gender changer and the Qualcomm 1960/2760 data
>>connection kit.
>>
>>The WWW/LX was setup to use 'ISP using PPP with PAP or CHAP' with
>>the following parameters:
>>   - Modem type: External
>>   - Modem: checked
>>   - Baud: 9600 (the 19200 setting worked, but it was flaky)
>>   - Communication: PPP
>>
>>After typing in 'WWW', it took about 20 seconds for the dialing,
>>connection, handshaking to take place, then HV was brought up and
>>I could browse around.  I had a Demo version of WWW/LX, so I couldn't
>>do much from there, but the connection worked fine.
>>
>>Plus I was able to dial into my work's modem port using
>>HP200's DataComm
>>program.
>>
>>All in all, I was quite surprised that everything came together and
>>worked, and I was happy about the transfer rate.  I'll be registering
>>for the WWW/LX program and SprintPCS's service and trying more later.
>>
>>           Regards,
>>             Joseph Chen
>>               joechen@cheninfo.com
>>

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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:43:54 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: Anyone use a HP + WWW/LX + TELNET/LX on SprintPCS's new
              wireless data services.
Comments: To: Joseph Chen <chenj@nortelnetworks.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

For that price, you're still probably better off with Ricochet -- as long as you
stick to the service area.

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Chen <chenj@NORTELNETWORKS.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: Anyone use a HP + WWW/LX + TELNET/LX on SprintPCS's new wireless
data services.


Ed,

  The speed was reasonable to me.  I have not registered WWW/LX, so I could only
access 1 page, then it would hang on me, so I checked out the speed by dialing
into
my work modem.  I was able to check mail and read usenet, and the speed was
about
14kbps.

  One thing I noticed was that the information came in bursts.  So, reading
email
and usenet was okay, but typing in an editor (say VI) was a bit slow, since each
key press was echoed back in a burst.  It was still usable, though.

  Sprint is charging $60 for 300 minutes per month.  It's got more expensive
plans
like $90 for 500 mins, etc.  The # of minutes can be used for voice or data, and
it's under the "Free & Clear" plan, which means no roaming and long distance
calls
are free.

  Yes, the phone accepted AT commands.  It basically emulated an external modem,
and the HP thinks it's talking to an modem on a serial port (including hearing a
dial tone and all).

              Regards,
                Joseph Chen
                  joechen@cheninfo.com


In message "Re: Anyone use a HP + WWW/LX + TELNET/LX on SprintPCS's new wireless
data services.",
"Ed Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> writes:

>Hi,
>
>(I think I may have sent a blank message.. sorry.)
>
>A few questions:
>
>Was the speed actually usuable for browsing?
>Any idea what Sprint is charging for this service and the phone?
>Did the phone accept AT commands (I assume yes)?
>How were the commands different for wireless web and regular modem to modem
>with datacomm?
>
>
>Please keep us informed of your progress with this as I am very interested.
>Thanks for the info posted thus far.
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Joseph Chen mailto:chenj@NORTELNETWORKS.COM
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 1:59 PM
>>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>>Subject: Re: HPLX-L Anyone use a HP + WWW/LX + TELNET/LX on
>>SprintPCS's new wireless data services.
>>
>>
>>Hi, this is a reply to a message from Dan about a month ago asking
>>if anyone has hooked up the HP200LX using WWW/LX to SprintPCS's new
>>wireless web.
>>
>>I just tried it at a local Sprint PCS store on the Qualcomm 2760 (dual
>>band) phone, and it worked fine.  I used the HP connectivity cable, a
>>null modem adapter, gender changer and the Qualcomm 1960/2760 data
>>connection kit.
>>
>>The WWW/LX was setup to use 'ISP using PPP with PAP or CHAP' with
>>the following parameters:
>>   - Modem type: External
>>   - Modem: checked
>>   - Baud: 9600 (the 19200 setting worked, but it was flaky)
>>   - Communication: PPP
>>
>>After typing in 'WWW', it took about 20 seconds for the dialing,
>>connection, handshaking to take place, then HV was brought up and
>>I could browse around.  I had a Demo version of WWW/LX, so I couldn't
>>do much from there, but the connection worked fine.
>>
>>Plus I was able to dial into my work's modem port using
>>HP200's DataComm
>>program.
>>
>>All in all, I was quite surprised that everything came together and
>>worked, and I was happy about the transfer rate.  I'll be registering
>>for the WWW/LX program and SprintPCS's service and trying more later.
>>
>>           Regards,
>>             Joseph Chen
>>               joechen@cheninfo.com
>>

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> Does is also work in DOS-PAL-applications like PE? AFAIK this is not
> real "text mode", but it's also not under system manager.

Yes.

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On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:59:27 -0600, Joseph Chen <chenj@nortelnetworks.com>
wrote:

> The WWW/LX was setup to use 'ISP using PPP with PAP or CHAP' with
> the following parameters:
>    - Modem type: External
>    - Modem: checked
>    - Baud: 9600 (the 19200 setting worked, but it was flaky)

The network itself is limited to 9600, so there is no sense
in making it higher speed, it simply adds errors, and
retransmissions, and possible "flakiness" (a technical term
no doubt! :-) )

> After typing in 'WWW', it took about 20 seconds for the dialing,
> connection, handshaking to take place, then HV was brought up and
> I could browse around.  I had a Demo version of WWW/LX, so I couldn't
> do much from there, but the connection worked fine.

Yep, that's the exchange time more or less at that speed.

> All in all, I was quite surprised that everything came together and
> worked, and I was happy about the transfer rate.  I'll be registering
> for the WWW/LX program and SprintPCS's service and trying more later.

Glad you like it. I am sure you are surprised that
something that is not Windows actually works! :) Just
teasing... I see the surprised looks a lot. People simply
have this amazed look. Pleases me to no end.

I also got your registration and it'll take a few days,
things are very busy here!

  Avi M. D&A
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-----Original Message-----
From: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone use a HP + WWW/LX + TELNET/LX on SprintPCS's new
wireless data services.


>For that price, you're still probably better off with Ricochet -- as long
as you
>stick to the service area.
>


That price inst entirely accurate...  all of the sprint literature is
pushing their web connectivity with their plans like the 59 for 300 minutes.
I did a bit of research talking to folks at SprintPCS both in shops and on
the phone and came up with the following info... I havent put it to the test
yet but this is what ive learned.

The web plans and pricing are for time using their builtin mini-browser on
the phone to access their service which includes mapquest, yahoo, etc. via
your phone.  Using the SprintPCS phone as a modem with a computer is treated
as a standard phone call using your normal airtime minutes.  Sor their basic
plan they have now for $29.95 with 150 peak minutes, and 500 free offpeak
minutes would allow you to use the net for up to 650 minutes a month.  They
also have a christmas special free & clear plan (free long distance) that is
$30 for 300 minutes any time.

Im going to be picking up a connection kit for mine shortly so i will report
what i findout then.

Dan
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I now have a 200LX and want to install the AceFlash from my old 100...with
the machine off I install the card, repower, and 'Press' CTRL-ALT-DEL
...QUESTION: on the 100LX I then type 100 ENTER
does anyone know if this is  200 ENTER on the 200?
Ace of course is NO LONGER...TIA, John
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Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 5:48 AM
Subject: PCMCIA Disk Problem


Dave Dix <davedix@PENN.COM> wrote about problems with swapping between
a 512K SRAM card, 20MB flash card and a ThinFax card.

The EXP driver is cranky and does not like other flashcards or SRAM
cards in the slot while it is loaded.  There is nothing you can do
about it that I am aware of.  But there are ways to work around it.

You can set up a procedure where you reboot after changing cards so
that the EXP driver is only loaded when you are using the ThinFax
card.  When the ThinFax driver is loaded, you can only use the ThinFax
card.  When that driver is not loaded, then you can freely swap
between the flashcard and the SRAM cards.  So, you will just need to
reboot after inserting the ThinkFax card and then again after you
remove it and put either of the other two cards in.

This procedure takes advantage of a feature of DOS during boot time.
During boot, DOS in the palmtop looks for CONFIG.SYS in the root of
the A drive first. If it finds one there, it loads it and then looks
for AUTOEXEC.BAT in the same spot. If the palmtop does not find a
CONFIG.SYS at A:\, it looks at the root of C: next.  If CONFIG.SYS is
found there, then that one is used and so is the C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT.  If
nothing is found at A:\ or C:\, then the palmtop looks at D:\ and
since this is ROM, it will always find the default files there.

The memory on the ThinFax card is accessed through a driver, so it
appears as drive F:.  In other words, there is no A: drive when the
ThinFax is in the slot and therefore the palmtop will not be able to
find any CONFIG.SYS or AUTOEXEC.BAT files at A:\ while booting with
the ThinFax card.  DOS will have to use what it finds on the C: drive
for configuration.

But, when the SRAM or flashcard is in the slot at boot time, there
will be an A: drive and therefore, you can have a different CONFIG.SYS
and AUTOEXEC.BAT there to allow for a different configuration.

So, make your C:\CONFIG.SYS & A:\CONFIG.SYS files to be the same and
your C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT & A:\AUTOEXEC.BAT files to be the same except
that the ones on the A: drive cards do not have the EXP drivers.  When
you boot with the flashcard in there, the A:\CONFIG.SYS will be used
and no EXP driver will load. If you boot with the EXP card in the
slot, there will not be any A:\CONFIG.SYS so it will use the one on C:
and the EXP driver will load.  Since the ThinFax card is also a modem,
I would assume you would alsos want to use the modem, so put the
CIC100 driver only in the C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT file so that it doesn't
bother to load when you are using the flash and SRAM cards.

This, along with the procedure described above will make a simple and
effective way to have a dual boot configuration that will only load
the ThinFax memory (and modem) drivers when it is needed and therefore
prevent interference with the other storage cards you want to use.


Stan

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I fixed the SysMgr bug and added more intelligence. Now you can
write filenames as usual, because the letter after a '.' is
only changed to upper case, if a blanc is in between.

The new version is called AUTOCAPS. Download from:

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Hi everybody!

For some reason X-Finder refuses to run on my 200lx.
An error pops up saying something like "That file does
not exist". I have checked and rechecked, the path in
SysManager is right.

Also, how can I run X-Finder in Dos since it is an
EXM.

Thanks in Advance,
Yoda

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Subject:      Re: Double Speed reliabilty
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After writing a whole blurb on how/why circuits that are overclocked
generate more heat (and how much more heat from 2x) I found the following
blurb:

"The speed upgrade is not new...and is based on running the HP Palmtop at
a speed that the CPU was designed for."

This from the website:   http://www.times2tech.com/speed.html

Well, I didn't know whether or not to believe this (after all, it's a
commercial enterprise in the business of speed-doubling LX's) so I checked
my 1983 version of Intel's Microprocessor Data Handbook, and found that
the 'absolute maximum' frequency rating for the 80186 clock input is 16
Mhz.

At least that says that the LX's CPU chip is built to handle that speed,
(or was in 1983). I have assumed the LX was built AFTER 1983 because there
*could* have been other (earlier) versions of the 80186 chip (I don't
know) that had a lower maximum. I think it's a safe assumption that the
support chips (chipset) would probably have the same maximum rating (at
least any produced after this date) as the 80186.

There is another issue.  Since clocking at 2x will cause power consumption
on those clocked circuits connected to the clock to approx quadruple (4x)
and likewise heat dissipation in those components to quadruple, one must
also ask about the thermal design of the 200LX itself.  Why did the
designers of the LX decide to clock it at less than it's maximum?

The real culprit in semiconductor failure is almost always heat. Has
anyone stuck a thermocouple inside a double-speeded HP200LX and measured
the temperature as compared to a single-speed LX?  This would say
something about the thermal design of the LX case and how hot the chip set
actually gets when it's double-clocked.  There is probably some additional
theory (or maybe even some hard data) about mean-time-before-failure VS
operational temperature that one could use to estimate how much shorter
the life of the chipset would be if overclocked.

Don't take this to mean 2x clocking is a bad thing.  The actual shortening
of life from this may be quite small.  It all depends on how much that
temperature rise inside the LX case is.

Rob

p.s. if anyone still wants to hear the blurb about why 2x clock translates
into 4x heat I'd be happy to post it.


On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Mack Baggette wrote:

>
> The problem has nothing to do with the crystal itself as I have never seen
> one go bad.  The problem is usually in some component failure of the power
> supply on the motherboard.
>
> Cheers,
>  Mack                            mailto:mack@times2tech.com
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HP actually built some speed upgraded palmtops for a customer at one point,
so I would say that says it can officially be done without any real
repercussions. The Hornet CPU is basically an 801C86 CMOS processor with
the screen, serial, PCMCIA and other features built in. It was designed and
built for HP starting around 93 or 94 and the CMOS technology at that time
was much more advanced than in 83 when the 80186 was first produced.

As for believing a commercial entity, I took that information directly from
the HP Developers Guide as 16Mhz is a setting in the Hornet CPU and is a
documented one.

Cheers,
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Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:18:21 -0500 (EST)

01h34m53s ago ...
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Michael Minnick wrote:

> For some reason X-Finder refuses to run on my 200lx.
> An error pops up saying something like "That file does
> not exist". I have checked and rechecked, the path in
> SysManager is right.

Hmmm - if you're installing XF in the AppMgr, how many EXM programs are
already installed?  AppMgr can only handle 8.  More than that, and
you'll need MoreEXM.  (You should have it anyway to get the most from
XF).  If that's not the problem, make sure that you've created /palmtop
and /trash subdirectories in C:  -  and that the icon archives and
finder.env are in c:\_dat.

> Also, how can I run X-Finder in Dos since it is an
> EXM.

You can't.  But you can run DOS programs of just about any size from XF
if you have MaxDOS.


HTH

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This device is for CE devices but looks very interesting.

http://www.thinkoutside.com/product.html

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              Tom Hoover <lists+hplx@HISWORD.NET>
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              SuperHighway
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SOLD

On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 10:03:02PM -0600, Tom Hoover wrote:
> With all this talk about Quick/LX, it reminded me that I have an extra copy
> that I'd like to sell.  $20 plus shipping.

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:13:15 +0100, Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
wrote:

(I know it is old, but I just got to it...)

> >>"Gi blaffen i reglene Lars, bruk fornuften! :-)"
> >Hey,I liked that comment!One pluspoint to Franklin:-)
> >I understand why you didn't translate it though:-)
>
> In case anybody misunderstands:
>
> "Don't bother about the rules Lars, use common sense!"

Thanks for the translation.

> It was meant to be a little something for the Scandinavian readers on the
> list. The Swedish industrial minister said straight out that " ...Norway was
> the last Soviet state...". Lars implies that what I wrote is a little out of
> line, so I have to make it clear. :-) I was going to use a more vernecular
> saying which contains a 4 letter word, one that is used in daily
> conversation amongst the under 40s, but thought better of it. I just got
> flamed for using a mild 4 letter word in a sentence (balls) on a Norwegian
> computer mailing list...
>
> This is Fluff!

You are right - it is fluff. I was not going to flame you
for the words, but for the assumption that after 40 people
are dead and do not use any four letter words! Hey, look:
"Open the door, please. The wind outside is cool. A fork
in the road. Cell phone." There are many words with four
letter, but "balls" is 5 letters :-)

Yes, I also use other four letter words, even the word Lars
:)

And BTW, I am over 40. I started using 4 letter words as a
kid, and just got better at it over time. I have less of a
need to use the 4 letter words now, and simply do it more
judiciously, when the impact is really significant :)

Thanks for the fun post!

  Avi

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:41:06 -0500, Steve Soper <ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID>
wrote:

(old stuff... but I have some input...)

> I receive the List by the Digest form.  It is much better for me to
> receive it that way, instead of by a bunch of separate messages. The
> only problem is that I don't know how to respond to individual
> messages.  I use my Palmtop, with Post/LX exclusively for all my

Jeff Johns replied about LXDR and indeed there is LXDRP
which is paid item, not a freebie. I bought it from the
author and used it a bit. LXDRP works with Post/LX.

I like the program. What it does is open a file which
contains the digest and then displays a screen with three
parts. At the top it has an index of messages, each message
is numbered and its subject is shown. The bottom of the
screen shows the message which is marked in the index by an
asterisk. You move the asterisk with arrow keys and it
opens other messages.

Other keys navigate the screen display.

In the middle there is a command bar which shows the
current message number, the total number of messages, a
field for for typing the message number you wish to
directly display, and the name of the message file which
will receive the individual message if you press the "/"
command. The message is simply appended to the end of the
message file as specified in the command line.

It works just fine. It seems fast, and this impresses me. I
had a bit of a problem setting it up because the
instructions were a bit too brief :), but Rick set me
straight in an email or two.

Once the message is added to the message file, you can
reply to it as a regular message.

LXDRP allows you to sift through messages and only add the
ones you want (and God knows there is a lot of stuff on our
list that is not worth the electrons used! :) )

I suppose that it can be set up as an external program.
Post/LX would then feed the digest item to LXDRP and it can
then do its magic. You will experience a reindexing issue
if used as an external. I have not tried it.

  Avi

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Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 20:28:19 -0500
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> is there any program to convert the phone book and the
> appointments to CSV (or something easy/common readable)
> and vice versa?
> I want to im/export some data to other programs.

AdbDump and GdbDump (on SUPER) will do this.

Also, you could define a smart clip that formats the data
any way you want and then print to a file using the smart
clip.  This works in Appt, Phone and Database.

-George
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With 150 ma available for the modem, 1 Amp is not too
excessive, and since it is regulated it should hold the
voltage just fine.

Remember, the electricity is available if the LX needs it,
its not like the power supply forces 1000 ma down the
"throat" of your LX...

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: el cheapo adapter, furby and fluff


>so, what is the current drain for the LX on and off? 1A sounds a bit much =
>12W

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On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:01:34 +0000 Stefan Peichl
<Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> writes:
> I fixed the SysMgr bug and added more intelligence. Now you can
> write filenames as usual, because the letter after a '.' is
> only changed to upper case, if a blanc is in between.
>  The new version is called AUTOCAPS. Download from:
> Http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/autocaps.zip

Way cool!!!  With lxshift and numlock, that's 3 great reasons I don't use
buddy (quicklx being the 4th, of course).   I don't know if this program
is what the others were looking for, but this does it for me!

Thanks Stefan!

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On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:54:34 -0500 Bruce Martin
<Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM> writes:
> >> 4-How does Xfinder plus xfs compare in transfer speed to say
zip.com, =
> or the irda transfer device from palmtop.net plus Transfile?
> >>
> I used to use zip.com, but no longer since I found XFinder. My
> experience has been that XFinder can be marginally slower than zip.com
when
> transferring files from/to my ramdisk (c:) but marginally faster when
transferring
> files from/to my 30 Mb Sandisk CF disk (a:). The real value here is
that the ability
> to transfer files is built in to your file browser/program
launcher/archive
> manager/GUI.

I get the feeling that zip.com is a hair faster, but xfinder is way more
convenient and
pleasant to use.  Personally, I would prefer for the palmtop to be the
server.

> >> 7-How do I configure a default directory view?  I want to see c:
> and a: with double rows every time I start the program.

Great answer which demostrates the power of carefully reading the manual.
 8-)

Thanks!

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On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:45:47 -0500 Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
writes:
> Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:12:56 -0500 (EST)
>
> 11h36m40s ago ...
> On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, D Dv wrote:
>
> > 1-Is there a simpler and/or more direct way to transfer filer.ini
> and pns.ini settings to xfiler than doing it all over from scratch?
> Not that I know of.  The syntax is a lot different.

I saw some files on SUPER which I think might help with that, but the
server was down.

> > Does it end up having all the same
> > usefulness as filer + pns + zipray + unzipto?
> > (I have not been able to find a way to treat lzh files like that).
>
> Yes!  Probably more...  It should work fine with LZH - that's the
> preferred archive format for XF.  To use the supplied finder.ini
> without too much editing, you need to have LHA in your path.

I am finding that it is much more!  But I had to make some drastic
changes:
1-Rather than figure out the settings, I downloaded unzip, since changing
the settings to
pkunzip did not work for me.

2-I was having trouble with the viewer settings, and trying to put things
back together did not work,
and things just started to act weird, so I decided to hunt for the
lattest japanese version on vector.
After I did that, I practically did not have to change anything.
Unpacking the file on the root of a: ,and
running setup.bat does things automatically.  Even the finder.env is
easier to setup (the viewer and
editor, at least).

I just have three more questions (for now):

1-How do I get the palmtop icon screen to show up as it did on the old
version (settings for that are way
different)?

2-Anyone knows what pawmicn is?

3-When will the english version come out? 8-)

> At least for me, the 7K loss is a good
> trade for the power of XF.

Plus moreexm (I was not using it before).

>  Also unregistered EXMs will work if you supply the full path.

Unregistered exms work sometimes by simply pressing enter on the
highlighted filename,
but sometimes not.

> > 5-Is there a way to move the /palmtop directory to flash?  I admit
> I have not finished reading all the documentation.
>
> Don't see why not.  Just change the "palmtop registration" entry in
> finder.ini to your preferred path.  (It's almost at the end).

It worked perfect on the old version (the one on SUPER), but not on the
new version.

Thanks.

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Changing the xtal back wouldn't prove that the processor was over heated.
It would only tell if the xtal was defective.  Unless the xtal was damaged
during installation, I would not expect a 'rock' to wear out.  Some trouble
shooting would be necessary to tell what the failure was..
Cheers!
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              S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM
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> Does is also work in DOS-PAL-applications like PE? AFAIK this is not
> real "text mode", but it's also not under system manager.

I am using Quick/LX and PE to type this message.  Quick/LX just finished =
the
word "message" for me, so it works fine.  I am running this in a DOS SC =
session
BTW.

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On 14 Dec 1999 05:50:10 -0800, Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
posted:

> You can set up a procedure where you reboot after changing cards so
> that the EXP driver is only loaded when you are using the ThinFax
> card.  When the ThinFax driver is loaded, you can only use the ThinFax
> card.  When that driver is not loaded, then you can freely swap
> between the flashcard and the SRAM cards.  So, you will just need to
> reboot after inserting the ThinkFax card and then again after you
> remove it and put either of the other two cards in.
>
> This procedure takes advantage of a feature of DOS during boot time.
> During boot, DOS in the palmtop looks for CONFIG.SYS in the root of
> the A drive first. If it finds one there, it loads it and then looks
> for AUTOEXEC.BAT in the same spot. If the palmtop does not find a
> CONFIG.SYS at A:\, it looks at the root of C: next.  If CONFIG.SYS is
> found there, then that one is used and so is the C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT.  If
> nothing is found at A:\ or C:\, then the palmtop looks at D:\ and
> since this is ROM, it will always find the default files there.

This is nice, but overkill. You can take advantage of DOS
in another way: If it finds something to load on the A:
drive it does. If it is not there, it will tell you so and
continue booting.

So: In the CNFIG.SYS load the device for the EXP card like
so:

device=a:\lxmdrv.sys

I am assuming you put your CONFIG.SYS on C:.

Now let's take both cases:

1. You are booting and the EXP card is in the slot.

During the boot process, CONFIG.SYS looks for the
lxmdrv.sys on A:. Well, guess what? it is there! So the EXP
driver will be loaded, and all is well in the world :)

2. You are rebooting, and there is ANOTHER card in the
slot, not an EXP card.

During the boot process, CONFIG.SYS looks for the
lxmdrv.sys on A:. Well, guess what? It is NOT there. So the
EXP driver will NOT be loaded, and that is good news, since
you do not want it loaded when you use other cards than the
EXP card. Again, all is in the world.

> But, when the SRAM or flashcard is in the slot at boot time, there
> will be an A: drive and therefore, you can have a different CONFIG.SYS
> and AUTOEXEC.BAT there to allow for a different configuration.

If you check my procedure, it means ONE CONFIG.SYS, and ONE
AUTOEXEC.BAT, both on C: drive, and NO CONFIG.SYS elsewhere
nor an AUTOEXEC.BAT elsewhere - less confusion, less mess.
Just put the card in and reboot.

Oh, yeah, config will complain. It will say that there is
an error when it cannot find the lxmdrv.sys on the NON-EXP
cards. Great, let CONFIG.SYS complain - that is EXACTLY
what we want, that it will NOT find the lxmdrv.sys and not
load it, since that lxmdrv.sys is the driver for EXP.

> So, make your C:\CONFIG.SYS & A:\CONFIG.SYS files to be the same and
> your C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT & A:\AUTOEXEC.BAT files to be the same except

Nah... Too much work. :)

  Avi

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robert c lewis <rc-lewis@STUDENTS.UIUC.EDU> wrote at length
about the heat build up due to double speeding the Palmtop.

In reply, I recall seeing somewhere in the Palmtop's SDK
book an allusion to the clock speed. My impression at the
time was that the Palmtop was actually built to handle
double speed.

On the question of overall heat build up. If you're
concerned about this, then I'd suggest that you don't
recharge batteries in the Palmtop. That produces more heat
than the double speed does. Granted this is not the same as
the heat generated by electron flow in the CPU but heat is
heat.

One of the things that HP Corvallis did right was to design
rugged machines based on their years of building
calculators. They also printed very conservative specs: well
within the bounds of their testing.

So why did HP not offer a double speed option? Probably
because the marketing weenies decided that longer battery
life was better for sales than a faster machine.

.ed.

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Hi Tomas

> Just to be sure after al the discussion about the RF interference with
> cellular phones.
> I borrowed a SH888 and am now using it to send this message.
>
> But I did experience some problem when it got closer than 2 decimeters
> to the hp200lx.

welcome in the club! :-)
If you have skills in electronics, please look at
daniel.hplx.net/hplxir/index.html

or, if this doesn't work:

www.user.tu-berlin.de/dherbgba/hplxir/index.html

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:06:27 +0100
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Anybody look at the Ericsson snapon keyboard for writing SMS messages? Is it
just a phone-powered serial device? Any try it with their Ericsson phone?

br

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Subject:      Re: Fluff: was 9110, now fluff!
Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>

> > This is Fluff!
>
> You are right - it is fluff. I was not going to flame you
> for the words, but for the assumption that after 40 people
> are dead and do not use any four letter words! Hey, look:
> "Open the door, please. The wind outside is cool. A fork
> in the road. Cell phone." There are many words with four
> letter, but "balls" is 5 letters :-)

:-) Mental short circuit here on my part. I tried to write a little more
interestedly. The original word was 'balletak' = 'grabbed by the balls'
which I used in a computer security discussion. I was very surprised when I
got corrected. I mean, this is a word that could well occur in daily use, at
least by men well into their 50s. And those older, although they don't use
it, it is very descriptive and easily understood. :-) And most people on the
other list are men around 30-40. I asked for a private explanation about why
it was found insulting, but never received one... I expect some are avid
Christians... Start yer flamethrowers, folks!

> And BTW, I am over 40. I started using 4 letter words as a
> kid, and just got better at it over time. I have less of a
> need to use the 4 letter words now, and simply do it more
> judiciously, when the impact is really significant :)

:-) I expect that this is the norm. Any other way and I wonder if it's
better to keep one's distance, one runs the risk of being 'recruited' to
some or other organization.

> Thanks for the fun post!

Glad to be part of it, Avi!

br

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Subject:      Re: Reconstructing the LX-A New CF Slot
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I think the 200LX form factor is fine, *if* I can get a good TCP/IP
connection
over the IR port (at 115 Kbs :( ) to an HP NetBeamIR device (IR "eye" on
the front, ethernet jack on the back)...

In other words, with a painless network connection that does not need the
PCMCIA slot or the serial jack is all the 200LX needs...

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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From: Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 4:56 AM
Subject: Reconstructing the LX-A New CF Slot


Hello HP Patriots "smile"

Leaving the discussion about a bigger screen behind,it's time to head for
another reconstuction of the LX.

The to me quite unnecesary IR interface,should be able to be removed and be
replaced by a CF memory slot.If you meausere it is on the edge,but I guess
the serial port could be moved to the right a couple of millimeters.

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Probably old news for many of you.

From the back page of the November issue of Photonics:

  Kids used to cheat on exams by passing notes.
  Now teenagers transmit data via the infrared
  ports of their calculators.  "During the test,
  I can be giving answers across the room," said
  one student in a _New York Times_ article.

  Bearing little resemblance to the simple calcu-
  lators of our youth 1, these new graphing
  calculators draw, display text and run programs.
  In some countries they are used to teach program-
  ming basics, said technical sales manager Whit
  Hickman of Hewlett-Packard Co.  After IR acces-
  sories are plugged in, the calculators can be
  reconfigured into universal remote controls,
  sending commands to televisions, VCRs and games.

  It didn't take long before someone figured out
  how to pass notes on this invisible wavelength.
  Hickman said the ability to cheat is overrated
  because the calculators have to be within a few
  inches of each other to work effectively; none-
  theless, Hewlett-Packard pulled the infrared
  feature from one of its latest models of
  graphing calculators.

  Of course, considering the time it takes for a
  kid to modify these devices, it might have been
  easier to simply learn the answers.

The article seemed interesting enough that I thought others
might appreciate reading it.  My apologies to anyone offended.

1 I don't know about you, but the simple calculators
    of *my* youth were slide rules!

Ted

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On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:28:01 +0600, David Ball wrote:

>Does Kermit allow for multiple file transfers at the same time?

send filespec
uses standard wildcards * and ?

control over file collisions whether to discard, overwrite, or
update; also append and backup and rename.


        `~Maynard

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Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:30:40 -0500 (EST)

11h10m47s ago ...
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, D Dv wrote:

> I am finding that it is much more!  But I had to make some drastic
> changes:
> 1-Rather than figure out the settings, I downloaded unzip, since =
changing
> the settings to
> pkunzip did not work for me.

Unzip works fine.  To use PKUnzip, there's a little more to change than
the program name.  Here's the changed line from my finder.env

.zip    ,k  ,pkunzip -v %c


> 2-I was having trouble with the viewer settings, and trying to put =
things
> back together did not work,
> and things just started to act weird, so I decided to hunt for the
> lattest japanese version on vector.
> After I did that, I practically did not have to change anything.
> Unpacking the file on the root of a: ,and
> running setup.bat does things automatically.  Even the finder.env is
> easier to setup (the viewer and
> editor, at least).

The new version is VERY cool.  You can move the icons on the /palmtop
screen around easily, and there are a lot of improvements.  I've been
using it for about 2 months.

> I just have three more questions (for now):
>
> 1-How do I get the palmtop icon screen to show up as it did on the old
> version (settings for that are way different)?

The icon sort order defaults to "none".  That's needed for the
re-ordering to work.  It can still be changed to alphabetical or date.
As you noticed, the palmtop directory is now a subdirectory of
a:/finder.

> 2-Anyone knows what pawmicn is?

Looks like a doc about Paw's icons that come with XF R.10

> 3-When will the english version come out? 8-)

Beats me.  I'd like to see it, too so I can find out what I missed.

> >  Also unregistered EXMs will work if you supply the full path.

> Unregistered exms work sometimes by simply pressing enter on the
> highlighted filename, but sometimes not.

XF R.10 lets you set up a directory for unregistered EXMs.  You should
still be able to run 'em by pressing enter.  (This works for me even
for EXMs inside archives...   The EXM directory (%b parameter) will let
you start your unregistered EXMs from icons using .xfl zero byte files.

> > > 5-Is there a way to move the /palmtop directory to flash?  I admit
> > I have not finished reading all the documentation.
> >
> > Don't see why not.  Just change the "palmtop registration" entry in
> > finder.ini to your preferred path.  (It's almost at the end).
>
> It worked perfect on the old version (the one on SUPER), but not on the
> new version.

Didn't try it on R.10, but the new version did pick up the setup in
c:/palmtop.


Regards

Peniel
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Date:         Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:33:45 -0500
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For detailed instructions on how to export a CSV file in some custom format
from your databases, see my web page on the subject:
http://web.raex.com/~striegel/HPLX/HPdbexport.txt

Alan

>From: Steffen Wagner
>Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 4:55 AM
>...
>is there any program to convert the phone book and the
>appointments to CSV (or something easy/common readable)
>and vice versa?

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On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:01:34 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.=
DE> wrote:

> The new version is called AUTOCAPS. Download from:
>
> Http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/autocaps.zip

Any chance that it might could be made to capitalize an 'i' after a '.' =
and
a space? This is really cool software Stefan, thanks for allowing us all =
to
use it!

Jeff

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My copy already does that. But it would be nice if it could recognize a
"blank, i, blank" sequence in the middle of a sentence and capitalize
the i in that situation.

Steve

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On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:57:22 -0600, Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM> =
wrote:

> My copy already does that. But it would be nice if it could recognize a
> "blank, i, blank" sequence in the middle of a sentence and capitalize
> the i in that situation.

Yup, that's what I meant.... argh, sorry for the confusion :(

Jeff

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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> I just have three more questions (for now):
>
> 1-How do I get the palmtop icon screen to show up as it did on the old
> version (settings for that are way
> different)?
>
I don't have X-Finder Ver.10 yet, so I'm not sure what differences you are
asking about. Can you be more specific?

> 2-Anyone knows what pawmicn is?
>
I believe this is a set of icons made for X-Finder. They are rather fun, if you
like a cat "theme" (they all have a cat in them).

You can of course substitute your own icons for the standard set that comes with
XFinder (file.icn, folder.icn, viewup.icn etc.). I have made icon sets for
XFinder in Win95, Mac, BeOS and IRIX themes. If you are interested, look for
these on SUPER or on NiftyServe FHPPC. I am also working on sets for OS/2, Geos,
Amiga, NeXT and others, which I'll release real soon.

> 3-When will the english version come out? 8-)
>
Gaku Nakagawa, the author, has said that Toshiki on the SUPER team is working on
a translation of XF 10 docs right now. Does anybody have an update?

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              wireless data services.
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Dan,

  When the datalink connector is used, it's counted as part of the "data mi=
nutes",
which means if you don't subscribe to a "wireless web" plan, you'll be char=
ged
at a premium 39 cents a minute.  I've checked this out with my SprintPCS bi=
ll...
the time I was connected with the HP200LX was charged as data, not voice mi=
nutes.

           Regards,
             Joseph Chen
             joechen@cheninfo.com


In message "Re: Anyone use a HP + WWW/LX + TELNET/LX on SprintPCS's new wir=
eless          data services.",=20
"Dan Ridenhour" <driden@STLNET.COM> writes:

>That price inst entirely accurate...  all of the sprint literature is
>pushing their web connectivity with their plans like the 59 for 300 minute=
s.
>I did a bit of research talking to folks at SprintPCS both in shops and on
>the phone and came up with the following info... I havent put it to the te=
st
>yet but this is what ive learned.
>
>The web plans and pricing are for time using their builtin mini-browser on
>the phone to access their service which includes mapquest, yahoo, etc. via
>your phone.  Using the SprintPCS phone as a modem with a computer is treat=
ed
>as a standard phone call using your normal airtime minutes.  Sor their bas=
ic
>plan they have now for $29.95 with 150 peak minutes, and 500 free offpeak
>minutes would allow you to use the net for up to 650 minutes a month.  The=
y
>also have a christmas special free & clear plan (free long distance) that =
is
>$30 for 300 minutes any time.
>
>Im going to be picking up a connection kit for mine shortly so i will repo=
rt
>what i findout then.
>
>Dan
>driden@stlnet.com
>
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On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 19:43:45 -0500, Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> =
wrote:

> Fri, 10 Dec 1999 08:43:46 -0500 (EST)
>
> Yep! That's what I do.
>
> my EXKey entry uses "Alt Paste":
>
> {Alt++}=3D{Menu}fic:\_dat\clipvue.txt{Enter}
>
> (there,just used it ;-)
>
> Cheers...AJKind


Hi All,

Thinks for the Exkey tip AL, work great!

{Alt++}=3D{Menu}fic:\_dat\clipvue.txt{Enter}

Just used it.



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Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:56:33 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

   I would like to play around a bit with custom fonts on the LX. I
   like the size and attributes of ANDREW6 font, but I would like a
   "check" character.

   Do I assume correctly that compiled fonts are the most memory
   efficient? Is it still possible to get Gilles Kohl's FCL?

   aTdHvAaNnKcSe


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Does running Filer cause any extra drain on the batteries?  I thought I read
that somewhere.  or could that be some other comm program?

Don.

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When you start Filer, it automatically activates the Com (or IR) port. If
you have Buddy, you can turn this off by pushing the minus (-) key twice.

__ms__

> Does running Filer cause any extra drain on the batteries?  I thought I
read
> that somewhere.  or could that be some other comm program?
>
> Don.

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<<  'balletak' >>

<< it, it is very descriptive and easily understood. :-) >>

Certainly would cause one to pay attention :)

My former father in law used to say "Grab them by the ...,
and their hearts and minds will follow!" :)

> other list are men around 30-40. I asked for a private explanation about why
> it was found insulting, but never received one... I expect some are avid
> Christians... Start yer flamethrowers, folks!

I think most people in most cultures would consider
references to genitals, or any parts of genitals to be
somewhat rude, or disrespectful. It is probably better to
make the error on the conservative side.

Best rgds, Franklin.

  Avi

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Subject:      Re: FA: Puma Intellisync for HP 200LX-No reserve, currently $1.26!

Subject: FA: Puma Intellisync for HP 200LX-No reserve, currently $1.26!
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:18 -0800

Hi All,

For anybody looking for a copy of
Puma's Intellisync for the HP 200LX,
just found this one up for auction on
Ebay.

Good Luck!

In message <38569C06.DAB5406A@cornell.edu>, Andrew Wallenstein <ajw4@cornell.edu> wrote:
> I have an auction running on Ebay for Puma's Intellisync for the HP
> 200LX. I am selling it without reserve, and the auction ends tomorrow.
> Currently the price is only $1.26! The URL is below, if you'd like to
> check it out.
>                               Andy
>
> URL to Puma Intellisync for 200LX auction:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=216913013


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Subject:      Re: FS: HP 95LX 1MB Palmtop computer

Subject: FS: HP 95LX 1MB Palmtop computer
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:05 -0800

Hi All,

For anybody looking for a 1mb 95lx,
just found this great deal on one posted on the NG.

Good Luck!


In message <s5e0goi6qrs154@corp.supernews.com>, "Jim Oxenreider" <jimnphil@icdc.com> wrote:
> Hewlett Packard HP 95LX 1MB handheld computer. This is a DOS based machine
> which includes PIM functions such as a Calendar, Calculator, Phonebook, and
> others. It also includes the Lotus 123 spreadsheet application. As this is
> an MS DOS computer, there are other applications that can be loaded and run
> on it as well. I am including two sets of applications, utilities and misc.
> software (one set by Richard Harvey) for it. These have the manual and
> original media in both 5 1/4 and 3 1/2 disk sizes.
>
> Also included is the HP AC adapter, and the HP Connectivity Pack software
> and serial port cable for connection to a PC. Please note the connectivity
> software is only on 5 1/4 disk media. I do not have the manuals for this or
> the original box. It is in good condition, with only normal wear. There are
> no significant marks on the case or screen. The hinges are still in good
> shape (not loose), as is the latch.
>
> Asking $70 plus shipping. Email with questions.
>
>


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Al,

I used FCL to build my own custom font.  You can use FCL to
build any of the 3 sizes of font displayed on the palmtop.
There is already a font with a check mark.  On the old HPhand
compuserve forum it was called Jinifont.  If you just build
a custom middle size font the compiled file will be fairly
small. The file size for 3 fonts I use is only 6,697 bytes.

>    I would like to play around a bit with custom fonts on the LX. I
>    like the size and attributes of ANDREW6 font, but I would like a
>    "check" character.

>    Do I assume correctly that compiled fonts are the most memory
>    efficient? Is it still possible to get Gilles Kohl's FCL?

Contact Gilles,  I'm pretty sure it still available.  I
believe it was about $15 shareware, but not sure.  BTW, you
could just take ANDREW6 and just change one character like `
front quote and change it to a "check mark".  It's a neat
program to play with. (G)   =Bob=

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> I recently asked if there is a possibility to disable the blue keys in
> any way (for example use exkey to map the blue keys to Shift-Bluekeys
> and vice-versa), but when I tried this it didn't work. :-(

My BLUE keys only create the shifted values when I'm in a second/third
SC session.  I thought that I used exkey to accomplish this but have not
looked at my setup in a long time.  So if I'm typing in tse (editor) I
just press the "hpcalc key" and get (  while if I press &..., I get the
other parenthesis.

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> I now have a 200LX and want to install the AceFlash from my old 100...with
> the machine off I install the card, repower, and 'Press' CTRL-ALT-DEL
> ...QUESTION: on the 100LX I then type 100 ENTER
> does anyone know if this is  200 ENTER on the 200?

On the 200, you can type either 100, 200 or $sysmgr (95 compatible).

Altho, if you use one of the Japanese tsr's (exkey/moreexm????), it
prefers 100 for some aspect of its loading even on the 200.

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If this makes it to the HPLX list server, then it means that ccLXPOP 2.0 is
soon on the way to the people who have volunteerd to be beta testers for it.
CcLXPOP 2.0 includes the following features:

1. It is a threader only, relying on either LXMTA or LXPOP/LXNNTP for actual
transfer.
2. It support newsgroups. Received newsgroup messages are automatically
forwarded to their appropriate folder if a folder with the newsgroup name
exists.
3. Newsgroup messages can be sent as well.


Standby for an announcement as soon as the beta testers give their thumbs up.
The cost of ccLXPOP 2.0 is double the price of 1.0 (that is, free!!!).

Brian

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Date:         Thu, 16 Dec 1999 02:57:23 -0600
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I recently bought a used 200LX and 10meg (stacked to 20) RAM card. In
attempting to load some rather large DOS apps I have I have discovered
that the '200' TSR takes up a lot of space!  I only tonight discovered
what it is doing there!  There are others too, to name a few, in order of
maximum size:

TSR             Memory
200             214.4K
STACKER          39.0K
MSDOS            20.4K  (probably can't do much about this one!)
ACECARD          12.3K
BATTMAN          11.1K
LXFONT            7.4K
CIC100            6.7K
..as well as a few other minor 2K things..

I seem to recall from the DOS desktop days that there were such things
as expanded and extended memory, and that sometimes things could be
loaded high. Are any of these drivers available for the 200LX that give
something approaching the 640K available to DOS and still allow the
Palmtop System to run?

Thanks!
Rob

p.s. one other quickie:  I found I can load the system by hand from the
DOS rather than at boot-time.  Is there any way to EXIT the system once
loaded (exit back to the bare DOS) ?

http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~rc-lewis

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Date:         Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:13:35 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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Subject:      Re: '200' card driver(?) and DOS memory low
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On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, robert c lewis wrote:

...
> I seem to recall from the DOS desktop days that there were such things
> as expanded and extended memory, and that sometimes things could be
> loaded high. Are any of these drivers available for the 200LX that give
> something approaching the 640K available to DOS and still allow the
> Palmtop System to run?

You can get an EMS driver for the LX that will convert part of the
ramdrive into EMS memory. There are two drivers available AFAIK, one
Japanese that is freeware and will require some fiddling to get working
and one from Times2tech that is only available to T2T customers.

However, while these drivers will give you EMS memory, which some programs
can use, they will not allow you to load drivers high. I think this is an
architectural constraint made by the 80186 processor, but others can
probably tell you more.

As for 200, it can hardly be called a TSR. It is the System Manager, where
all the built-in apps are running. The more apps running the less memory
will be available for the DOS prompt.

A solution is to download a program called Maxdos from SUPER
(www.palmtop.net). It is a TSR that can swap the running program out of
memory and running a new one - that is it will swap the System Manager out
of memory leaving you as much memory as possible for running DOS programs.
Of course, while the SysMgr is swapped out you cannot switch back to it,
the way you can with the regular DOS prompt from the SysMgr.

In effect, using Maxdos gives the same amount of memory as quitting the
System Manager all together (save 5-10kb of memory or so), but with the
added advantage that you can have built-in programs open and still run
large DOS programs.

Make sure you have some room free on either A or C (preferred) for Maxdos'
swap file, though.

> p.s. one other quickie:  I found I can load the system by hand from the
> DOS rather than at boot-time.  Is there any way to EXIT the system once
> loaded (exit back to the bare DOS) ?

Erm, you mean exit from the System Manager to DOS? if so, then yes there
is. Press the '&...' button, open the menu and choose the item "Terminate
{something}" I think (I use it daily yet cannot remember its name...). It
is right next to close all apps. That will unload SysMgr/200 and put you
back into DOS.

From there you can use '200' to start the SysMgr again.


Cheers,

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Date:         Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:21:31 +0800
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On the App Manager, press "Alt" + "A" + "T", that will get you back to bare DOS.

Roger S.

On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 02:57:23 -0600, HPLX Mailing List , wrote:
>I recently bought a used 200LX and 10meg (stacked to 20) RAM card. In
>attempting to load some rather large DOS apps I have I have discovered
>that the '200' TSR takes up a lot of space!  I only tonight discovered
>what it is doing there!  There are others too, to name a few, in order of
>maximum size:
>
>TSR             Memory
>200             214.4K
>STACKER          39.0K
>MSDOS            20.4K  (probably can't do much about this one!)
>ACECARD          12.3K
>BATTMAN          11.1K
>LXFONT            7.4K
>CIC100            6.7K
>...as well as a few other minor 2K things..
>
>I seem to recall from the DOS desktop days that there were such things
>as expanded and extended memory, and that sometimes things could be
>loaded high. Are any of these drivers available for the 200LX that give
>something approaching the 640K available to DOS and still allow the
>Palmtop System to run?
>
>Thanks!
>Rob
>
>p.s. one other quickie:  I found I can load the system by hand from the
>DOS rather than at boot-time.  Is there any way to EXIT the system once
>loaded (exit back to the bare DOS) ?
>
>http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~rc-lewis
>
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>   Kids used to cheat on exams by passing notes.
>   Now teenagers transmit data via the infrared
>   ports of their calculators.  "During the test,
...

I thought I heard somewhere that this was also why the LX IR strength
was reduced for the 200LX.  Any truth?

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:12:03 -0500
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Al,

I'm interested also. If you make contact or have success with this, could
you let me know?



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
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Maximizing the results of Information Systems

-----Original Message-----
   I would like to play around a bit with custom fonts on the LX. I
   like the size and attributes of ANDREW6 font, but I would like a
   "check" character.

   Do I assume correctly that compiled fonts are the most memory
   efficient? Is it still possible to get Gilles Kohl's FCL?

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Date:         Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:41:51 -0600
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Does anyone know if there is any active developement of IRC/LX?

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:27:06 -0500
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              Donald Collins <dcollins@MCSWEB1.COM>
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Anyone know where I might find examples of SED script files?

Not the command line scripts (-e) but scripts used as (-f mysed.scr) external
files.

Don.

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Date:         Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:19:34 -0500
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              Donald Collins <dcollins@MCSWEB1.COM>
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I don't have Buddy.  I there an alternative solution to prevent this? or should
I just close filer each time I'm done with it. (which is a pain)

Don


>When you start Filer, it automatically activates the Com (or IR) port. If
>you have Buddy, you can turn this off by pushing the minus (-) key twice.

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Date:         Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:34:12 -0800
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> Does anyone know if there is any active developement of IRC/LX?

Strange that you ask in public forum about development. But
I can answer this: if there is any specific needs, we will
take it under consideration and develop if it is feasible.

Do you have anything specific in mind?

Right now the product is not in active development, it has
just been released, and there was not a whole lot of
requests (none that I recall) for anything new in it.

Are you using it? AFAIK, no - unless you got a bootleg copy
:-) ...

  Avi M. D&A
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Date:         Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:31:12 -0800
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I might be able to dig one or two out, but it could take a little while. These
are tricky files to get working...

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: Donald Collins <dcollins@MCSWEB1.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 6:27 AM
Subject: SED scripts


> Anyone know where I might find examples of SED script files?
>
> Not the command line scripts (-e) but scripts used as (-f mysed.scr) external
> files.
>
> Don.
>
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>

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Date:         Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:09:37 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Donald Collins wrote:

> Anyone know where I might find examples of SED script files?
>
> Not the command line scripts (-e) but scripts used as (-f mysed.scr) external
> files.

Well, there is no difference between the scripts you specify on the
command line or the ones you place in a file (not under UNIX at least), it
is only a matter of convenience and a script typed on the command line
can always be placed in a file and run from there with -f instead.

If what you're looking for are more complex scripts (which you would
normally not write on the command line) then the Seder's Grab-bag at
http://seders.icheme.org/ might be able to help you. There is also a book
on sed, entitled "sed & awk" from O'Reilly that is pretty good (and not
surprisingly, it also covers Awk).


Cheers,

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Date:         Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:52:17 -0600
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On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:34:12 -0800, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Strange that you ask in public forum about development. But
> I can answer this: if there is any specific needs, we will
> take it under consideration and develop if it is feasible.

Well, I figured since it was announced in this public forum and since a =
plea
for beta testers was posted in this forum, that this was the proper place =
to
ask.

> Do you have anything specific in mind?

Scripting ability.

> Right now the product is not in active development, it has
> just been released, and there was not a whole lot of
> requests (none that I recall) for anything new in it.

So... am I the only who has used it?

> Are you using it? AFAIK, no - unless you got a bootleg copy
> :-) ...

I have used it up until the point that it quits (which isn't very long). =
No
I do NOT have a bootleg copy. The reason I asked about developement is =
that
I don't want to purchase anything that there will not be upgrades or
updates.

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:24:13 -0800
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Does anybody know where I could find a memory upgrade for an Omnibook 425?
And, what memory upgrades are availble for it?

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Date:         Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:32:36 -0800
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:19:34 -0500, Donald Collins <dcollins@MCSWEB1.COM> =
wrote:

> I don't have Buddy.  I there an alternative solution to prevent this? =
or should
> I just close filer each time I'm done with it. (which is a pain)
>
> Don
>
> >When you start Filer, it automatically activates the Com (or IR) port. =
If
> >you have Buddy, you can turn this off by pushing the minus (-) key =
twice.


Since you don't have or use Buddy, get LXPro. It has the same option
for turning off the port.


HTH


Regards,

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Date:         Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:30:41 -0800
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try www.mcglen.com

philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 1:24 PM
Subject: OFF-TOPIC: Omnibook 425 memory upgrade


> Does anybody know where I could find a memory upgrade for an Omnibook 425?
> And, what memory upgrades are availble for it?
>
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>

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Jeff,

> > Do you have anything specific in mind?
>
> Scripting ability.

Interesting, can you tell more?

> > Right now the product is not in active development, it has
> > just been released, and there was not a whole lot of
> > requests (none that I recall) for anything new in it.
>
> So... am I the only who has used it?

Not that I know of :-) ...

> > Are you using it? AFAIK, no - unless you got a bootleg copy
> > :-) ...
>
> I have used it up until the point that it quits (which
> isn't very long). No I do NOT have a bootleg copy. The
> reason I asked about developement is that I don't want to
> purchase anything that there will not be upgrades or
> updates.

I had NO REASON to think you use a bootleg copy, and I did
not mean the comment in any other way but the funny
comment. Please forgive me if this comment did not come
across as funny. I am very very confident that you would
not use a program inappropriately.

I understand the point you make about the support and
development. I think it is a bit like the chicken and the
egg: What comes first - the customer base who demand
features and development, or the development which
generates the interest in the potential customers to
become a buying customer... In my humble opinion, and I
know Andreas is reading it - at least I hope he does -
the customers have to drive the product, i.e. they have to
say loudly and clearly what they want, and how, and in
detail. This is what makes the author's heart buble over
with joy :-) --- someone paying attention (and hopefully
$$$) for his/her work.

That is why I am asking that you describe more what you
meant by scripting.

  Avi Meshar
  D&A Software
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Thu, 16 Dec 1999 18:39:23 -0600
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I was doing some housekeeping on my palmtop and ran into a problem I
couldn't resolve.

I had eliminated several icons on the applications screen. I currently have
about 4 rows of icons.

After deleting one or two, I would scroll down and find that some of the
icons on the bottom row did not fully display, and then the HP would
freeze. I couldn't move around the screen at all,and none of the buttons
worked.

I would reboot, and everything worked normally. I then would delete another
icon or two and the problem reoccurred.

Any ideas what may be happening?

TIA

Alan

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From:         al chin <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
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Hi gang;
A funny thing happened while I was merging (lg) DBs.
In merging 4 large DBs (aver 300k) I lost a couple
dozen records at random or the info in them.
Essentially some of the records copied but the note
part in them did not.  Anyone ever notice this or its kause????



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On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:13:15 -0800, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Interesting, can you tell more?

IRC/LX appears to be somewhat of a DOS port of ircII. ircII and BitchX (a
variant of ircII) along with most of the major irc clients allow for the =
use
of scripts. Scripts allow for certain actions to occur based on certain
other events happening. Some scripts act as bots and can maintain a =
channel
while one is away.

> I had NO REASON to think you use a bootleg copy, and I did
> not mean the comment in any other way but the funny
> comment. Please forgive me if this comment did not come
> across as funny. I am very very confident that you would
> not use a program inappropriately.

I know... I just wanted everyone else to also know. There was no offense
taken by your statement :)

Jeff

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Now's your chance to grab a copy of Windows that runs on the 200LX!

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D221583267


Jeff

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Comments: To: robert c lewis <rc-lewis@STUDENTS.UIUC.EDU>
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robert c lewis wrote:

>There is another issue.  Since clocking at 2x will cause power consumption
>on those clocked circuits connected to the clock to approx quadruple (4x)
>and likewise heat dissipation in those components to quadruple...

>p.s. if anyone still wants to hear the blurb about why 2x clock translates
>into 4x heat I'd be happy to post it.

Please, I'd like to hear it. My own assumptions about CMOS logic gates
would have led me to believe that it would be simply 2x (the only
significant current drain in CMOS gates is when they are switching
states, and this happens twice as often at a 2x clock, also the
voltage is the same, so the power is double).

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Sounds as if you c:\_dat\appmgr.dat file is corrupt.  You might want to rename and/or delete the entire thing and let the hp recreate.  You will lose entries, so manually copy them.

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>>There is another issue.  Since clocking at 2x will cause power consumption
>>on those clocked circuits connected to the clock to approx quadruple (4x)
>>and likewise heat dissipation in those components to quadruple...

>>p.s. if anyone still wants to hear the blurb about why 2x clock translates
>>into 4x heat I'd be happy to post it.

> Please, I'd like to hear it. My own assumptions about CMOS logic gates
> would have led me to believe that it would be simply 2x (the only
> significant current drain in CMOS gates is when they are switching
> states, and this happens twice as often at a 2x clock, also the
> voltage is the same, so the power is double).

There is still a 50% duty cycle no matter how fast you switch so it is
basically off half the time, but you are switching more often so there is a
loss there as well.  I can tell you from measuring the palmtop current that
it only goes up about 15-25% when on.

Cheers,
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Jeff,

> > Interesting, can you tell more?
>
> IRC/LX appears to be somewhat of a DOS port of ircII. ircII and BitchX (a
> variant of ircII) along with most of the major irc clients allow for the
> use
> of scripts. Scripts allow for certain actions to occur based on certain
> other events happening. Some scripts act as bots and can maintain a
> channel
> while one is away.

I am not sure if Andreas ported anything or not, I never
asked, he never told me :-)

(Somehow, in the back of my mind I rather doubt he ported
anything, because it would take him longer to do that than
code his own. And you don't know, but the first cut at the
program was so incredibly fast. I say that it would be
longer to port because he'd have to adapt and plug in the
PAL stuff in each spot, and that would make it very
long... But as I said, I never asked, and I really do not
know!)

Anyway, I am sure Andreas is reading this too and will
notice. So the scripts jump into action when there is some
event for example, and execute something - such as a new
person joining, will spark a "Welcome Joe" message from you
or some such, right?

Thanks for the input.

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Fri, 17 Dec 1999 08:23:13 +0000 (GMT)

04h14m47s ago ...
On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 20:08:26 -0800 (PST), Jeff Johns wrote:

> Scripts allow for certain actions to occur based on certain
> other events happening. Some scripts act as bots and can maintain a =
channel
> while one is away.

IRC/LX supports /? which will run a DOS command - including for example
ROBOT BOT where BOT.SCR is a robot script. See ROBOT/LX. I'd be
interested to see a simple bot script and write one for IRC/LX using
the ROBOT/LX scripting language.

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If anyone is intrested i have a complete copy of Windows 2.1


Stephen Souza
System Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
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*DSN:  836-3204
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>
> Now's your chance to grab a copy of Windows that runs on the 200LX!
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221583267
>
>
> Jeff
>
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Keep in mind that the CPU in the 200LX spends a great deal of
it's time NOT running - even while the palmtop is on.  The
power management hardware and software in the palmtop will
shut the processor down when there is no work for it to do.
This happens in between keystrokes and while the user is just
reading the screen.

And I suppose an argument can be made that the double speed
units will actually accomplish their short computing tasks
faster and therefore shut down the processor sooner resulting
in less heat and less power being used - overall.


Stan

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Subject:      Re: Drives...
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Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM> wrote:

> I'm going to show my ignorance here...
> When I go into Filer I see 7 drives (A - G).  I know what 4 of them are

Drive B: is traditionally the second floppy drive.  Not
applicable on the palmtop, but the drive letter is kind of
reserved for that.

I am not sure what your drive E: is.  What happens when you
try to go there with Filer?  HP's default AUTOEXEC.BAT file
loads the ASSIGN command which maps drive E: to be a synonym
for A:.  They do this because some old DOS programs assume A:
is a floppy disk even though on the palmtop it is more like
the main hard disk.  So, you can tell those programs to use E:
and they will be happier.  But this is virtually a non-issue
and I recommend that you remove any ASSIGN commands.  ASSIGN
takes up 6K or so of RAM and can cause other problems too.

I am not sure what you G: drive is.  What happens when you try
to go there with Filer?

Look in your CONFIG.SYS file for a LASTDRIVE=3D statement.  This
will give an indication of the highest drive letter DOS can
use.  Drive letters so not need to fill in just because a
higher letter is used.  For example I have A-E and then S & W
as drive letters.  I use the SUBST command to create the S & W
drives to act as synonyms for a specific directories.

You are right that it really doesn't hurt anything to have
those drive letters.  But you certainly cannot delete a drive
letter with Filer.  Drive letters are a much deeper element in
DOS than the simple DELETE command can affect.


Stan

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> TSR             Memory

Here are some suggestions for freeing up memory:

> 200             214.4K

Someone has already mentioned MaxDOS.  Look for it at www.palmtop.net

> STACKER          39.0K
> ACECARD          12.3K

A 20Meg flash card should be fairly cheap.  If you can get one, or just =
do
without Stacker, you will be able to drop both of these

> BATTMAN          11.1K

Is battery monitoring worth this much RAM to you?

> LXFONT            7.4K

How often do you use the largest font size? I have a font TSR that only =
alters
the small and medium size fonts.  This leaves the largest font unchanged =
from
the built-in style.  It is only around 2.5K.  I can send you a copy if =
you like

> CIC100            6.7K

Look for lxcic.zip at www.palmtop.net for a smaller replacement for =
cic100.
Lxcic can also be run right before using the modem only and not take up =
any
space as a TSR.

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Jaff wrote:


> Now's your chance to grab a copy of Windows that runs on the 200LX!
>
>

But how useful is it?


Lars

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Folks,

I recently purchased a Sandisk 96MB Compact Flash card, together
with a Viking PCMCIA adapter, but I have what appears to be a
compatibibity problem.

1) The 96MB card (with the adapter) is not recognized in either
my 200LX, nor my desktop Win98 machine (with Swapbox Lite PCMCIA
reader), nor a co-worker's laptop.
2) The 96MB card functions perfectly (without the adapter) in a
digital camera.
3) An 8MB CF card (branded Nikon, but I believe manufactured by
Sandisk) operates just fine (with the same adapter) in the
palmtop and desktop, as well as in the camera (minus the adapter).
4) The tech support folks both at Sandisk and Viking are mystified.

Is anyone here able to assist?   Thanks very much,
--
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>> Now's your chance to grab a copy of Windows that runs on
>> the 200LX!

>But how useful is it?

I remember reading several threads about a year ago about some members running
old Win apps such as Word and Excel and several of the built-in applets
(Notepad/Calendar/Calculator maybe), and seemed to be making productive use out
of the WYSIWYG formatting and integration capabilities, despite the limited
features available on pre-Win3.1 software.

I believe usefulness was related to the amount of resources available.  Double
speed obviously, and lots of internal RAM/EMS for Windows to use for virtual
memory.

Aside from that, others just run it to impress their friends and co-workers, and
the rest just do it because they have repressed GUI-envy.


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On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

...

> Aside from that, others just run it to impress their friends and
> co-workers, and the rest just do it because they have repressed
> GUI-envy.

Hey, that was why I installed X-finder/TBLX! :-)

(to impress friends, not "repressed GUI-envy"...)


Cheers,

Laust

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On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:31:57 -0800, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> =
wrote:

> I remember reading several threads about a year ago about some members =
running
> old Win apps such as Word and Excel and several of the built-in applets
> (Notepad/Calendar/Calculator maybe), and seemed to be making productive =
use out
> of the WYSIWYG formatting and integration capabilities, despite the =
limited
> features available on pre-Win3.1 software.

Yes, those apps do run on the LX under Windows and it is kind of nifty to
hit the Windows icon in App Manager and see the Windows 'splash screen' =
then
have it load up Windows. With Stefan's Sleepon utility it's quite nifty.

Jeff

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On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 08:52:37 +0000, Tony Hutchins <nospam@UNDECIMUS.FREESE=
RVE.CO.UK> wrote:

> IRC/LX supports /? which will run a DOS command - including for example
> ROBOT BOT where BOT.SCR is a robot script. See ROBOT/LX. I'd be
> interested to see a simple bot script and write one for IRC/LX using
> the ROBOT/LX scripting language.

Interesting, but to test it someone would have to have a registered copy, =
so
I'll leave that to you guys. It would be neat to have bots running via =
the
LX and why not... We already have LX web servers.

Jeff

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On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 22:14:09 -0800, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> I am not sure if Andreas ported anything or not, I never
> asked, he never told me :-)

Source for ircII is widely available for various platforms as is BitchX. =
I
didn't mean to say that it was a direct port because it has a splash of =
PAL
thrown in, but it looks and behaves like ircII.

> Anyway, I am sure Andreas is reading this too and will
> notice. So the scripts jump into action when there is some
> event for example, and execute something - such as a new
> person joining, will spark a "Welcome Joe" message from you
> or some such, right?

Exactly.


> Thanks for the input.

That's what I'm here for :)

Jeff

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Snail Mail!

Really.

I kept seeing comments on the forum, thanking Jeff for his article in the
Palmtop Paper and I thought, gosh, I've misplaced my DEC issue..... *THEN*
it arrives yesterday 16 DEC, letting me know that I hadn't misplaced
it....

I think mail enters a time warp, before it gets to Ft. Hood, Texas (USA, for
those who haven't heard of the "Great State of...." <grin>).

When do "non-time-warped folks" get their PTPs?

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What languages can I use to program the HP200? Python, Perl, C++, Java?? =
Does
anyone have much experience with these languages on the HP200? I'm lookin=
g for
a new H/PC and want one I can program. I enjoy this more than playing sol=
itare
and do it for the same reason, to pass time while waiting around.

Please respond by e-mail.

ajevans@usa.net
Thanks,
Jim



Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Patrick West wrote:

> > I am currently refurbishing my unix knowledge and found a great
> > bourne shell for ms-dos. It's called sh200
>
> What is a bourne shell? What does it do?

I feel tempted to say "if you don't know what it is, you don't need it"
;-), however, that might sound rude (*not* my intention!) and it might no=
t
be true either.

The bourne shell is one of many UNIX shells. A UNIX shell is roughly the
equivalent of COMMAND.COM, used for doing stuff on the command line or
making scripts (DOS Speak: batch files). Generally, UNIX shells are many
times more powerful than COMMAND.COM. If you're not used to UNIX you may
find the bourne shell a bit unfriendly. I found it a bit difficuly to set=

up properly, and I did have some UNIX knowledge at the time. Another nice=

shell is 4DOS, available from www.jpsoft.com. This is more DOS like, and
more user friendly, and it works nicely on the LX too.

The problem with using a UNIX shell on the LX is that no commands are
built-in (the UNIX mentality I guess) that means that you need an externa=
l
dir (ls) command, an exernal copy command, move command, etc. to be able
to do anything. This means more space needed on the LX, whereas
command.com (and 4DOS, BTW) has these functions/commands built-in.

As for the shell in question, I tried once and it is really nice, once yo=
u
get it installed. However, I'm more of a tcsh (another shell) man myself,=

and free space on my LX was getting low, so I deleted it again...


Cheers,

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>> Aside from that, others just run it to impress their
>> friends and co-workers, and the rest just do it because
>> they have repressed GUI-envy.

>Hey, that was why I installed X-finder/TBLX! :-)

>(to impress friends, not "repressed GUI-envy"...)

With the advent of Palm Pilots and WinCE, I find that a GUI, by itself, rarely
impresses anyone anymore.

I'm usually mindful of what apps to show what group of people when they ask to
look at my LX.

For my math class, I demo Derive, but in another two years, the TI-89 which has
Derive built-in, will make that demo flat.

For most people, I have a set of pcx snapshots to whip thru using LXPIC, with
each photo already adjusted for best effect, but now days, someone almost always
chimes in "that's like so-and-so pocket computer, only he/she has color!".

For my relatives, I look-up Chinese astrology signs on my Lotus spreadsheet...
except for the grandmothers who already know or can calculate them in their
heads.
For the kids, I have a handful of games (mostly Curtis')

I can't impress any of my more literate friends with the cheapo dictionary I
have because they know most of the words already ... I think I'd need Collins
for that.

I tell you ... it's getting harder to impress every passing year as Geek-dom
slowly moves to mainstream <g>.

We may have to resign ourselves to the notion that the LX is more useful than
impressive.

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<<I think mail enters a time warp, before it gets to Ft. Hood, Texas (USA,
for
those who haven't heard of the "Great State of...." <grin>).

When do "non-time-warped folks" get their PTPs?>>

Not much sooner.  We are reasonable for the time warp more than the post
office.

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V4 Perl's seem to work well on a 200. So do some of the early APLs
and APL variants (like the original public version of `J').

Although Perl runs a bit slow on the 200, I do find that it is quite
practical to use it.

JIM EVANS wrote:
>
> What languages can I use to program the HP200? Python, Perl, C++, Java?? Does
> anyone have much experience with these languages on the HP200? I'm looking for
> a new H/PC and want one I can program. I enjoy this more than playing solitare
> and do it for the same reason, to pass time while waiting around.
>
> Please respond by e-mail.
>
> ajevans@usa.net
> Thanks,
> Jim
>

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I'm afraid I can't help much except to report that I have a similar
sort of `different behavior' with my 40Mb Simple Tech card. I use it
on four of my larger systems as well as on my 200. On the 200 it seems
to lock the machine up if I power up with the card installed, but it
has no problem if I insert the card after the 200 has booted. On my
other systems, the card seems to behave quite properly.

Mike Coln wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I recently purchased a Sandisk 96MB Compact Flash card, together
> with a Viking PCMCIA adapter, but I have what appears to be a
> compatibibity problem.
>
...

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              Roberto Frankie Correia <rfcorre@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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For Korn Shell and UNIX commands see www.mks.com. They have a MKS Tools
System a UNIX emulator in MS-DOS/Windows environment.

JIM EVANS wrote:
>
> What languages can I use to program the HP200? Python, Perl, C++, Java?? Does
> anyone have much experience with these languages on the HP200? I'm looking for
> a new H/PC and want one I can program. I enjoy this more than playing solitare
> and do it for the same reason, to pass time while waiting around.
>
> Please respond by e-mail.
>
> ajevans@usa.net
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK> wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Patrick West wrote:
>
> > > I am currently refurbishing my unix knowledge and found a great
> > > bourne shell for ms-dos. It's called sh200
> >
> > What is a bourne shell? What does it do?
>
> I feel tempted to say "if you don't know what it is, you don't need it"
> ;-), however, that might sound rude (*not* my intention!) and it might not
> be true either.
>
> The bourne shell is one of many UNIX shells. A UNIX shell is roughly the
> equivalent of COMMAND.COM, used for doing stuff on the command line or
> making scripts (DOS Speak: batch files). Generally, UNIX shells are many
> times more powerful than COMMAND.COM. If you're not used to UNIX you may
> find the bourne shell a bit unfriendly. I found it a bit difficuly to set
> up properly, and I did have some UNIX knowledge at the time. Another nice
> shell is 4DOS, available from www.jpsoft.com. This is more DOS like, and
> more user friendly, and it works nicely on the LX too.
>
> The problem with using a UNIX shell on the LX is that no commands are
> built-in (the UNIX mentality I guess) that means that you need an external
> dir (ls) command, an exernal copy command, move command, etc. to be able
> to do anything. This means more space needed on the LX, whereas
> command.com (and 4DOS, BTW) has these functions/commands built-in.
>
> As for the shell in question, I tried once and it is really nice, once you
> get it installed. However, I'm more of a tcsh (another shell) man myself,
> and free space on my LX was getting low, so I deleted it again...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laust
>
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              hplx)
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On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, JIM EVANS wrote:

> What languages can I use to program the HP200? Python, Perl, C++, Java?? Does
> anyone have much experience with these languages on the HP200? I'm looking for
> a new H/PC and want one I can program. I enjoy this more than playing solitare
> and do it for the same reason, to pass time while waiting around.

Well, Java is probably out, but the others should work, with a few notable
exceptions.

1. Python: I haven't tried this myself, but I have heard of at least one
person having success running a 16bit port of Python on the LX.

2. Perl: Perl4 runs well on the LX. While not as advanced as Perl5 (and
memory can be a bit tight at times), it is okay for small scripts or just
trying out ideas. There is a version of Perl available from
www.palmtop.net (in the SUPER section)

3. C++: As with Perl, the versions of C++ that run on the LX do not have
the latest enhancements that the language offers. The newest version of
Borland C++ to work on the LX is BC++ 2.0. There might be an equivalent
Microsoft product that also works, I dunno.

4. Java: no ports that I know of. Probably won't be either.

People have other popular scripting languages running on the LX too -
Rexx, and of course the bourne shell.

> Please respond by e-mail.

I thought you received the list messages via e-mail? anyway, I used both.
Others might find it interesting too.


Cheers,

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On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:24:13 -0800, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> =
wrote:

da> Does anybody know where I could find a memory upgrade for an Omnibook =
425?
da> And, what memory upgrades are availble for it?
da>

I got a 6Mb expansion board from Kingston Memory IIRC.

P

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Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:59:28 -0500 (EST)

56m29s ago ...
On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, JIM EVANS wrote:

> What languages can I use to program the HP200? Python, Perl, C++, =
Java??
> Does anyone have much experience with these languages on the HP200? I'm
> looking for a new H/PC and want one I can program. I enjoy this more =
than
> playing solitare and do it for the same reason, to pass time while =
waiting
> around.

There are several versions of C that work on the 200LX, plus Pascal,
Basic (several varieties), Perl, assembly, and Forth.  AFAIK, Java
isn't possible.  Not sure about C++.  I'm partial to Forth or assembly.
Other folks will probably come up with more languages that can be used.


HTH

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              Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>> What languages can I use to program the HP200? <<

I've had good luck with Microfocus COBOL on my hp200 (No snickering
please!)

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Date:         Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:20:48 -0500
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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In one Pocken Quicken file I keep 14 cash accounts, most of which are only
to keep track of current balances, not to really record transactions.  About
three days ago, when I wanted to modify one line of one of these accounts, I
got the following pop-up window on the screen over the Pocket Quicken
display:

Problem
Error code -30
occurred during function

Abort   Retry

Choosing Retry just repeats the message, and selecting Abort gives the
following:

Warning
Aborting now will cause Quicken to
terminate.  Your last file operation
will not be saved.

Abort  Retry

At which point, there is no choice except to let it abort and exit from
Pocket Quicken.

Is there any way to fix this file or do I have to re-create it?

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Recently there was a posting on one of the newsgroups about running a PDP-11
emulator on the HP palmtops, so I gave it a try.  It works, at least as far
as I could test it.  It's not an operating system, but a system simulator
that would allow you to load an operating system and software intended for a
PDP-11.

Since I haven't had a PDP-11 lying around here for years, I don't have a
copy of any of the numerous DEC PDP-11 operating systems (RT-11, UNIX,
RSX11M-Plus, RSTS, MUMPS, etc.) around to test on it, and I'm at a dead end
for now.

Want to try it?  It's called Ersatz-11 and you can find it at
http://www.dbit.com where they offer it for unlimited personal/hobby use or
sell it to commercial users.

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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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Who administrate the LXMAP map database?
I have tried to email Mitch, but he does not respond.
Where do I send my map?

      /tomas moberg
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Date:         Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:12:22 -0500
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Wow! Did the PDP-11 ever have a VMS version running on it? Maybe PDP Unix is
more feature-rich than minix? I know that it's a much older OS but, let me
check this site out....

Check this out!!!

Network devices:
Any Ethernet interface with a packet driver
NE2000 clones, ISA or PCI (built-in driver)




>
>Recently there was a posting on one of the newsgroups about
>running a PDP-11
>emulator on the HP palmtops, so I gave it a try.  It works, at
>least as far
>as I could test it.  It's not an operating system, but a
>system simulator
>that would allow you to load an operating system and software
>intended for a
>PDP-11.
>
>Since I haven't had a PDP-11 lying around here for years, I
>don't have a
>copy of any of the numerous DEC PDP-11 operating systems (RT-11, UNIX,
>RSX11M-Plus, RSTS, MUMPS, etc.) around to test on it, and I'm
>at a dead end
>for now.
>
>Want to try it?  It's called Ersatz-11 and you can find it at
>http://www.dbit.com where they offer it for unlimited
>personal/hobby use or
>sell it to commercial users.
>
>Alan
>
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No, but VMS does have RSX-11 for VMS.

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On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Striegel, Alan wrote:

> Since I haven't had a PDP-11 lying around here for years, I don't have a
> copy of any of the numerous DEC PDP-11 operating systems (RT-11, UNIX,
> RSX11M-Plus, RSTS, MUMPS, etc.) around to test on it, and I'm at a dead end
> for now.

A PDP-11 "lying around"? I thought it was too big to be applicable to that
term :-)

Anyway, I thought SCO (or whoever owns the rights to the old UNIX releases
now?) were allowing free binary distribution of the early UNIXes, while
you could buy a license (and get the source) for $100 or something. I
could be wrong, though..

> Want to try it?  It's called Ersatz-11 and you can find it at
> http://www.dbit.com where they offer it for unlimited personal/hobby use or
> sell it to commercial users.

How fast does it run on the LX?


Cheers,

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>> What languages can I use to program the HP200? <<

>I've had good luck with Microfocus COBOL on my hp200



And I've had MS Fortran (5.0?), Visual Basic, Quick Basic and Rexx running.



- Longden (snickering)

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On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 08:59:49 -0800, Paul Yarnell <pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM> =
wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:24:13 -0800, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> =
wrote:
>
> da> Does anybody know where I could find a memory upgrade for an
> Omnibook 425?
> da> And, what memory upgrades are availble for it?
> da>
>
> I got a 6Mb expansion board from Kingston Memory IIRC.


Hi Paul,

The max for the OB 300-430 is 8MB.
So if your 425 had 2MB and you added the 6MB for a total of 8MB,
then thats the max.


HTH


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Donald Collins <dcollins@MCSWEB1.COM> wrote:

>Does running Filer cause any extra drain on the batteries?  I thought I
read
>that somewhere.  or could that be some other comm program?

I have done quite a few tests in the past with Filer, and its effects on
battery current drain, the results of which are a little suprising as
follows:

1) When entering System Manager from boot, to Topcard, current = 35mA
2) Open Filer & current drops to 25mA (or 30mA if serial port is on)
3) While Filer is open, even if in background, current remains at 25mA
4) Close Filer & current increases to 70mA and remains there with any
application open
5) Close Filer and all applications, sitting at Topcard, current increases
to 80mA
6) Return to DOS, current drops to 35mA (serial port power off) or 40mA
(serial port power on)
7) Reload System Manager current remains 35mA - cycle repeats. Alternatively
power off & on and cycle repeats.

To summarise, the serial port, when on, consumes an extra 5mA, to reduce
current consumption, keep Filer loaded at all times.

Hope this makes sense, they are old notes.

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Date:         Fri, 17 Dec 1999 18:46:04 -0500
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> What languages can I use to program the HP200? Python, Perl, C++, Java??

Personal Rexx runs on the LX although a bit slow because it is
interpreted.

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I've got the following drives in my 200LX...

A: pcmcia
B: DOS's 2nd floppy letter (unused in LX)
C: 32M T2T
D: LX ROM drive
E: ??? "Not ready reading drive E" when I try to Dir it.
F: LX's original 2M C: drive
G: SecureDevice encrypted drive

I don't know where that E: comes from.  I don't have any ASSIGN or SUBST
commands in use.  It exist's early in the boot because the RDSWAP.EXE
command in CONFIG.SYS creates the F: drive because E: was already in use
at that point.

Here's my CONFIG.SYS...

     buffers=20
     files=30
     lastdrive=g
     device=c:\rdt2t.exe
     device=c:\rdswap.exe
     device=f:\tremm.exe
     device=c:\bin\secdev\secdev.sys c:\secdev.!@# /t13

I would guess the reason must be buried in the rom somewhere.  Did HP
ever make the source available?  ...or has anyone tried to disasssemble
it?

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Date:         Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:37:21 -0800
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On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 22:06:46 -0600, Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
wrote:

> IRC/LX appears to be somewhat of a DOS port of ircII. ircII
> and BitchX (a variant of ircII) along with most of the
> major irc clients allow for the use of scripts. Scripts
> allow for certain actions to occur based on certain other
> events happening. Some scripts act as bots and can maintain
> a channel while one is away.

Let me reply to the points you made...

1. Andreas tells me that he never ported anything, IRC/LX
is original code. I wonder if the similarity of commands
structure and function across all the IRC programs you cite
is what confuses you? He has never seen other source code
but he is aware that there is some IRCLL source laying
about somewhere on the Internet.

There was no sense to reinvent the commands, since there is
already a well accepted set of commands. It's that "wheel
reinvention" thing... :)

2. The introductory texts and tutorial to IRC that I have
seen all say: Avoid scripts. This is a fairly consistent
message across all the tutorial.

3. The IRC servers I have seen all declare: "No BOTS
HERE!". Again, this is a consistent message.

4. Aside from the one example of greeting new logins, what
other functionality owuld you obtain from scripting? Is
there some useful application? You mentioned maintaining
connection when away. How about command AWAY? Already does
exactly that. It is server side command.

5. BTW, it is possible to use ROBOT/LX for some of the
scripting needs you may have.

Hope this helps some. Let me know about any useful
functionality for scripts, it is interesting if you have
any good idea in that area.

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> >> What languages can I use to program the HP200? <<
>
> I've had good luck with Microfocus COBOL on my hp200 (No snickering
> please!)

Just for the hell of it I tried a long time ago, and it
worked! Cumbersome beast, though...

  Avi

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Date:         Fri, 17 Dec 1999 18:22:47 -0800
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> I've got the following drives in my 200LX...
>
> A: pcmcia
> B: DOS's 2nd floppy letter (unused in LX)

Exactly.

> C: 32M T2T

Was originally the F: drive, until the SWAP function of
RDT2T swapped the names.

> D: LX ROM drive
> E: ??? "Not ready reading drive E" when I try to Dir it.

It is not assigned. We sometimes use SUBST with EXP storage
cards to make the palmtop filer think that the EXP EPROM
(where the driver is and the minifax etc) is drive E, and
that the F: drive is really A:. Makes it nicer in Filer to
see the EXP storage as drive A: ...

> F: LX's original 2M C: drive

That is because RDT2T swapped the C: and F: names.

> G: SecureDevice encrypted drive

Yes...
> I don't know where that E: comes from.  I don't have any ASSIGN or SUBST

Not quite... You specified Lasdrive=g in your CONFIG.SYS.
But E: is generally used as a "mirror" of A:. There are
software packages stupid enough to assume that if you
install on A or B then you must be installing on a floppy,
and will not allow this (There is a Fax package that does
it, cannot recall its name...) So you install it on E:, and
all is well.

After the girations during the booting of palmtops, this
affinity is lost, and E: remains unassigned. Hence you
cannot access it.

Don't fret it, don't obsess it - it is meaningless... (my
famous last words: Next time someone accesses it there will
be smoke coming from his/her plamtop  :-) ...)

  Avi

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Date:         Fri, 17 Dec 1999 18:38:32 -0700
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Anyone know where I can download Real Encoder 5.0 or Real Producer 5.0
or whatever it is called. I just downloaded v6 and beta 7, but I want
5.0! As far as I know, it is no longer on Real Networks' site.

Thanks for your response.

Bob

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On 19 Nov 1999 05:14:12 -0800, Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
wrote,

Sorry, I just got this message...

> There are some stories of little cities in the states, where telephone
> costs are as cheap that they can start their connection early in the
> morning and shut it down before they go to bed. On the screen run

I think in many small towns the opposite is true, because
local phone companies have a higher fixed cost per
customer.

In most places in the US you do not pay for local calls,
except one monthly fixed fee. Long distance is defined
variably...

> invoice is about CHF 300 (swiss francs), i.e. about US$ 450.
> And it is NORMAL! This includes only local calls.

Maybe someone already told you, but if not, then I think
you should go look for another money changer! What you
describe means they sell you 1 Swiss Franc for $1.50. When
I was in Zurich in October, banks charged me $ 0.66 for
the same pleasure. I think you are being short-changed.

> This is perhaps not the whole truth for the US, because it seems, that it
> differs much over the country.

Yes, it differs a lot even within one city. In West Los
Angeles you have Pacific Bell and GTE as the two phone
companies and their offerings are very different.

> Here in middle Europe we say:
> "If you have to download something really large (e.g. a MS Service
> Pack), do it, before the americans awake (i.e. before 11.00 a.m.)."
> After this time, some 'Internet'-server become veeeryyyy slooow.

We have the same saying about Europeans :-) ...

  Avi

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> robert c lewis wrote:
>
> >There is another issue.  Since clocking at 2x will cause power consumpt=
ion > >on those clocked circuits connected to the clock to approx quadrupl=
e (4x)> >and likewise heat dissipation in those components to quadruple...
>
> >p.s. if anyone still wants to hear the blurb about why 2x clock =
translates
> >into 4x heat I'd be happy to post it.
>


Please excuse me if I am wrong,but I am curious,aren't you just refering =
to the law P=3DRI2?

According to this a doubled current gives quadrupled effect in the =
resistor/resistance?

Or perhaps the current isn't doubled with 2x?

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> >> What languages can I use to program the HP200? <<
> =

> I've had good luck with Microfocus COBOL on my hp200 (No snickering
> please!)

>Just for the hell of it I tried a long time ago, and it >worked!
Cumbersome beast, though...

>  Avi

I use it because it makes nice tight executables. That and I've been
programming in COBOL so long I seldom need to refer to the manual. :) =


COBOL means business!

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> Snail Mail!
I must have gotten my PTP about the 8th--know I had it by the 9th. In
Michigan.

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If some one need a cheap Auto adapter

Just received and order from B.G. Micro and enclosed was a flyer with this
power adapter

Plug in to cigarette lighter, fused and regulated
Was made to power a Fujitsu briefcase printer, 12v 3amps
$4.95

Not listed on their website
http://www.bgmicro.com
1-800-276-2206 (orders only)

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The term REGULATED has me worried ..
A 12 to 14 vdc supply from the auto system is not a very easy supply to
Regulate and keep at 12 volts..
To run a regulator you need about an 18 v bulk supply so you can Regulate=
=20
down to 12 volts.  =20
This you don't have..
Now they may have a Spike protection device on it that may keep the =
spikes
down to less than 20 volts or so.  But how fast do they react?

Your best bet using a cigarette lighter plug would be to unplug before =
you use the=20
starter EVERY TIME......

This may keep the inductive spike out of the HP 200 device.

Merry Christmas to all
73
Dean L  =20

On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 08:58:24 -0700, you wrote:

>If some one need a cheap Auto adapter
>
>Just received and order from B.G. Micro and enclosed was a flyer with =
this
>power adapter
>
>Plug in to cigarette lighter, fused and regulated
>Was made to power a Fujitsu briefcase printer, 12v 3amps
>$4.95
>
>Not listed on their website
>http://www.bgmicro.com
>1-800-276-2206 (orders only)
>
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Be sure to check the polarity, both my OB800 and 200LX use the same plug
(center negative) and voltage

jgetz wrote:

> If some one need a cheap Auto adapter
>
> Just received and order from B.G. Micro and enclosed was a flyer with this
> power adapter
>
> Plug in to cigarette lighter, fused and regulated
> Was made to power a Fujitsu briefcase printer, 12v 3amps
> $4.95
>
> Not listed on their website
> http://www.bgmicro.com
> 1-800-276-2206 (orders only)
>
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i = c dv/dt, or in non calculus terms, current is proportional to the rate of change of voltage over time. If the voltage differential is faster, current will increase (time differential not changing). Or, it just takes more
oomph to move electrons as things are speeded up because of this thing called capacitance.

Bob

Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> > robert c lewis wrote:
> >
> > >There is another issue.  Since clocking at 2x will cause power consumption > >on those clocked circuits connected to the clock to approx quadruple (4x)> >and likewise heat dissipation in those components to quadruple...
> >
> > >p.s. if anyone still wants to hear the blurb about why 2x clock translates
> > >into 4x heat I'd be happy to post it.
> >
>
> Please excuse me if I am wrong,but I am curious,aren't you just refering to the law P=RI2?
>
> According to this a doubled current gives quadrupled effect in the resistor/resistance?
>
> Or perhaps the current isn't doubled with 2x?
>
> Lars Hedstroem/Sweden
>
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I  have (12) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are
all
in excellent condition. They have only been used a  very few times on
testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg
PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for
$65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! I also have (10)

16 Meg 72Pin EDO Simms for sale. I sell (1) 16 Meg Simms for $15.00 and
I sell (2) or more for $13.00 a piece plus $3.00 shipping . You can send

payment  to my address at:


Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back  the day I receive your payment and let you know
that your disks our on the way. I always send out next day unless I
receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on
Monday. Please email me and let me if you are interested and when you
are sending payment so I can hold your disks for you. The response has
been tremendous and the people I have worked with on this group have
been really  great.  Thanks alot!   Scott

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Date:         Sat, 18 Dec 1999 11:46:10 -0600
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Curtis

Oops, you'r right about this!  I had been thinking of the simple model of
a resistor with 2x the current (for which the voltage would have to double
thus quadrupling the power). Since the gates are off most of the time
(current draw insignificant by end of clock cycle both at 1x and 2x)  and
they are pulsed 2x as often the current would double and P=IE tells you
that the power doubles.  My mistake!  Thanks for pointing it out!

Rob


On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Curtis Cameron wrote:

> robert c lewis wrote:
>
> >There is another issue.  Since clocking at 2x will cause power consumption
> >on those clocked circuits connected to the clock to approx quadruple (4x)
> >and likewise heat dissipation in those components to quadruple...
>
> >p.s. if anyone still wants to hear the blurb about why 2x clock translates
> >into 4x heat I'd be happy to post it.
>
> Please, I'd like to hear it. My own assumptions about CMOS logic gates
> would have led me to believe that it would be simply 2x (the only
> significant current drain in CMOS gates is when they are switching
> states, and this happens twice as often at a 2x clock, also the
> voltage is the same, so the power is double).
>
> --
> Curtis Cameron
> WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724
>
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> Want to try it?  It's called Ersatz-11 and you can find it at
> http://www.dbit.com where they offer it for unlimited personal/hobby use or
> sell it to commercial users.

Help! I'm trying "pip". It's the only one thing I still know. But
I don't know how to exit! Yes, I know how to use the UNIX /bin/ed.
But "pip" is tougher!

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Date:         Sat, 18 Dec 1999 12:25:37 -0600
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Subject:      Maxdos & '200 System' and DOS memory low
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Steve,

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Steve Carder wrote:

> > TSR             Memory
>
> Here are some suggestions for freeing up memory:
>
> > 200             214.4K
>
> Someone has already mentioned MaxDOS.  Look for it at www.palmtop.net

Ok, actually, someone has already put maxdos on the system.  Maybe it's
not being used correctly...

In the autoexec.bat file, the last thing he does is:
    :
    maxdos -l
    200
    maxdos -r

So far as I can tell these maxdos commands don't do a thing.  I have
optimized the DOS ram in the setup (by hand, going back and forth to see
how much RAM is available after each change) and if I don't do that, 200
grows even larger.

Is maxdos supposed to get rid of *most* of the 200K of 200 (stashing it on
the disk) or is there a minimum 'core' of 200K  that needs to stay loaded?

> > STACKER          39.0K
> > ACECARD          12.3K
>
> A 20Meg flash card should be fairly cheap.  If you can get one, or just do
> without Stacker, you will be able to drop both of these

Actually once I've got rid of '200' I think I've got enough RAM.  You'r
right though I do want to pick up an extra flash card or so.

One other unrelated related question about cards...I notice the Battman
program says:

   "Card Battery = OK"

Do these flash cards actually have batteries (I thought they were actually
electronically erasable requiring no voltage to hold their data).

>
> > BATTMAN          11.1K
>
> Is battery monitoring worth this much RAM to you?
>

Well, maybe...I don't really know.   I've read somewhere that using
batteries wrong can actually cause problems (hardware problems I assume).
I don't want to abuse anything and I figured until I know more I better
leave most of the stuff in place..


> > LXFONT            7.4K
>
> How often do you use the largest font size? I have a font TSR that only alters
> the small and medium size fonts.  This leaves the largest font unchanged from
> the built-in style.  It is only around 2.5K.  I can send you a copy if you like

Hmm...Is this the font you get by doing an "Fn ZOOM" in DOS mode?  If so,
quite often.

> > CIC100            6.7K
>
> Look for lxcic.zip at www.palmtop.net for a smaller replacement for cic100.
> Lxcic can also be run right before using the modem only and not take up any
> space as a TSR.

Aaah, is this a modem program? (!)   Since I just got the palmtop used
from someone only about a week and a half ago I haven't gotten around to
figuring out how to use the modem yet.  It came with 2 actually, an older
9600 baud one and a 14,4, newer.   6.7K is pretty small and so I'm not too
worried yet but thanks for the info!

The real problem I have is that I don't know what a lot of these things
do/are.  Once I learned that I can 'turn off' (unload) the system (200
program) that freed up enough DOS for me to do what I wanted to do
(basically, to run the Quick-C compiler/assembler).   It's pretty big and
it takes a while to compile but hey, to be able to carry the whole thing
in my shirt pocket I'm not complaining!

Thanks again for the info Steve, hopefully I'll be able to get to doing
these things soon.  If you can tell me any more about how to use
(correctly) maxdos, that would be great!

Rob

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Matthew Sheffield wrote:
>
> I recently purchased a pair of NiMH and a pair of NiCads from a RadioShack
> and they have performed absolutely horribly, especially the NiMH's. They
> don't charge above 2.8v and can't release their charge quite quickly.
> Anyone else had any problems w/RadioShack batteries?

I lost my brain, erm, stuff stored on the palmtop, directly due to some
Ratshack NiMH's.  I hadn't used the 200LX in about a week (busy, sick,
et al) and when I went to turn it on there was nothing..  I put in alks,
and the dreaded welcome screen came up..  So I replaced the backup
battery and put some alkalines in there.

Now, you're thinking the batteries just drained themselves..  Well, one
was 1.22 V (without load) one was 150mV.  It was working fine before,
why it commited suicide I don't know.  It's garbage now, of course.  The
palmtop is fine.  :)  And about two weeks earlier I ordered a Maha
charger and 4 NiMH batteries for my digital camera, I knew I should have
ordered 2 sets of batteries..

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Date:         Sat, 18 Dec 1999 12:37:26 -0500
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Sat, 18 Dec 1999 14:05:01 -0500 (EST)

39m23s ago ...
On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, robert c lewis wrote:

> Ok, actually, someone has already put maxdos on the system.  Maybe it's
> not being used correctly...
>
> In the autoexec.bat file, the last thing he does is:
>     :
>     maxdos -l
>     200
>     maxdos -r

Just right.

> So far as I can tell these maxdos commands don't do a thing.  I have
> optimized the DOS ram in the setup (by hand, going back and forth to =
see
> how much RAM is available after each change) and if I don't do that, =
200
> grows even larger.

The system manager (200) by default will take everything but the DOS
memory in Setup.

> Is maxdos supposed to get rid of *most* of the 200K of 200 (stashing it =
on
> the disk)...?

All of it actually.  Maxdos swaps the whole system manager setup to
disk (or EMS) but only when starting a DOS program that needs a lot of
space.  For those you can insert maxdos in the path box in the "add
application" screen. For example

         c:\bin\maxdos.com  a:\evp\evp.exe

Then when you start the app, maxdos does the swap to disk, and gives
DOS all the available space (less maxdos itself and any TSRs installed
before maxdos).  The rest of the time maxdos doesn't do anything.

> > > LXFONT            7.4K

LXFONT is one of a whole group of font loaders that produce more
legible fonts on the palmtop.  It'll run fine without it, but you may
have a harder time reading the text.


HTH

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From: "Geoffrey Ungar" <gungar@total.net>
Subject: F/S 200LX - 2 MEG
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 23:55:42 -0500

I have a very clean HP200LX 2meg complete with HP10mb flash card,
connectivity kit, all boxes, manuals, etc...
ALL IN MINT CONDITION
Please send reasonable offers only to "gungar(nospam)@total.net"





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Date:         Sat, 18 Dec 1999 12:38:58 -0800
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On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Dean L. wrote:

> The term REGULATED has me worried ..
> A 12 to 14 vdc supply from the auto system is not a very easy supply to
> Regulate and keep at 12 volts..
> To run a regulator you need about an 18 v bulk supply so you can Regulate
> down to 12 volts.
> This you don't have..
> Now they may have a Spike protection device on it that may keep the spikes
> down to less than 20 volts or so.  But how fast do they react?
>
> Your best bet using a cigarette lighter plug would be to unplug before you use the
> starter EVERY TIME......
>
> This may keep the inductive spike out of the HP 200 device.

In my experience, a regulated supply is good enough that it won't zap
anything as hardy as a 200LX.  I recall that Thaddeus is selling an
unregulated supply that nobody has complained about.  An unregulated 12VDC
car adapter isn't really an adapter except in the sense that it changes a
cigarette plug into a barrel plug - other than that, you might as well be
hooking the palmtop straight up to the battery posts.  Since an unfiltered
supply doesn't seem to affect the palmtop, and a regulated supply is better,
there should be no reason to worry.

And anyway, doesn't starting a car induce a huge voltage drop, not a spike,
when the starter kicks in and draws several hundred amps from the battery?

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Rob,

> In the autoexec.bat file, the last thing he does is:
>     :
>     maxdos -l
>     200
>     maxdos -r

MaxDOS is really worth your efforts. It will swap out the memory content =
to
disk to free DOS memory for a new application. The above lines in autoexe=
c.bat
prepare palmi for use with MaxDOS. You then have to call each program by
preceding=20

  C:\path\maxdos.com c:\path\program

otherwise palmi does not know that it has to swap contents of memory to t=
he
disk.

Some examples which I use with PWRMENU (also availlable at www.palmtop.ne=
t) :

{   D O S     P R O G R A M M S}
{}
{Palmtop Editor}c:\tools\maxdos.com c:\pim\pe.exe %1
{Text DRAW}c:\tools\maxdos.com c:\tools\textdraw.exe
{WINDI DOS W=F6rterbuch}c:\tools\maxdos.com c:\windi\windidos.exe
{}
{Lotus Magellan 2.0}c:\tools\maxdos.com c:\mag2\mg.com
{dBASE III+}c:\tools\maxdos.com c:\dbase\dbase.exe
=20

HP Staber/Salzburg

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On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 12:38:58 -0800, you wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Dean L. wrote:
>
>> The term REGULATED has me worried ..
>> A 12 to 14 vdc supply from the auto system is not a very easy supply =
to
>> Regulate and keep at 12 volts..
>> To run a regulator you need about an 18 v bulk supply so you can =
Regulate
>> down to 12 volts.
>> This you don't have..
>> Now they may have a Spike protection device on it that may keep the =
spikes
>> down to less than 20 volts or so.  But how fast do they react?
>>
>> Your best bet using a cigarette lighter plug would be to unplug before=
 you use the
>> starter EVERY TIME......
>>
>> This may keep the inductive spike out of the HP 200 device.
>
>In my experience, a regulated supply is good enough that it won't zap
>anything as hardy as a 200LX.  I recall that Thaddeus is selling an
>unregulated supply that nobody has complained about.  An unregulated =
12VDC
>car adapter isn't really an adapter except in the sense that it changes =
a
>cigarette plug into a barrel plug - other than that, you might as well =
be
>hooking the palmtop straight up to the battery posts.  Since an =
unfiltered
>supply doesn't seem to affect the palmtop, and a regulated supply is =
better,
>there should be no reason to worry.
>
Bob;
What I was referring to was the inductive kick that happens when you let =
go of the=20
starter key.    You have an inductive spike equal to or more than twice =
the supply=20
voltage.
This is also why many car manufactures have go to turning off the =
accessories and=20
cigarette lighter when you are starting your car.
Dean


>And anyway, doesn't starting a car induce a huge voltage drop, not a =
spike,
>when the starter kicks in and draws several hundred amps from the =
battery?
>
>ian Butler / ian@hplx.net
>http://peace.hplx.net/
>
>When man calls an animal "vicious", he usually means that it will =
attempt
>to defend itself when he tries to kill it.
>
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Greetings,

Is there a list of programs that run on the 200lx that can use EMM200 or TREMM.
I know of several,  PKZIP/UNZIP, SC and SSC, but am looking for others.

TIA

Joe

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Date:         Sat, 18 Dec 1999 19:50:21 -0500
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While that may be true, I don't believe it's applicable in this case.
Doubling the clock rate doesn't double (or even increase) the rate of
change of voltage over time.  That's controlled by the RLC constants of the
circuitry, which don't change.  What *does* change is the number of clock
*transitions* per time "t" -- that quantity doubles.

Rick

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On 12/18/99 at 10:25 AM Bob Meyer wrote:

>i = c dv/dt, or in non calculus terms, current is proportional to the rate
of change of voltage over time. If the voltage differential is faster,
current will increase (time differential not changing). Or, it just takes
more
>oomph to move electrons as things are speeded up because of this thing
called capacitance.
>
>Bob

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David,

Check with Kingston, I believe they make/or made one.  What
do you have now 4 megs ?  Is the max 8 megs?  I ungraded a
OB300 and a OB530 for friends.  There is a place just down
the street from Kingston (Epoic Sales??) that can get it
quickly from them if they still have them.  Let me know if
you have no luck and I will check further.   =Bob=

> Does anybody know where I could find a memory upgrade for
> an Omnibook 425?  And, what memory upgrades are availble
> for it?

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> I tell you ... it's getting harder to impress every passing year as Geek-dom
> slowly moves to mainstream <g>.

You need them all in the same room at the same time.  Show derive to
those TI folks, then show the pictures to whomever, etc.  Let them show
each device which does whatever - then ask, can any of them do ALL that
the HP does? (G)  Be respectful to those Chinese or other grandmothers!
(G)

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and or a final project I am looking to make a program which will =
communicate with my HP 200LX through a standard 9-pin serial port.  I =
have seen many programs out which will do this for me, but I haven't =
found any information about how to make a program that will do this.  I =
anyone has any experience or information that would help me, I would =
appreciate the help.

Thank you,

  -John

"Time is viewed in the information age as a commodity that can be =
bought, sold, traded and generally controlled at will."

"I'm really totally together, I even think I should be."


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On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 07:57:32 -0500 Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
writes:
> Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:30:40 -0500 (EST)
>
> 11h10m47s ago ...
> On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, D Dv wrote:
>
> Unzip works fine.  To use PKUnzip, there's a little more to change
than
> the program name.  Here's the changed line from my finder.env
> .zip    ,k  ,pkunzip -v %c

I tried the above, and it works well.  I don't know if it's just because
I rebooted,
but it almost seems that pkunzip is snappier  than unzip (we are  talking
about
miliseconds).

> > > > 5-Is there a way to move the /palmtop directory to flash?  I
> admit I have not finished reading all the documentation.
>
> Didn't try it on R.10, but the new version did pick up the setup in
> c:/palmtop.

I found  the program doing a few strange things, including creating a
trash directory in more
than one place.   I solved it  by getting rid of all the old settings,
including the old directories.

Thanks for all the tips!

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On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:50:37 -0500 Bruce Martin
<Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM> writes:
> > I just have three more questions (for now):
> >
> > 1-How do I get the palmtop icon screen to show up as it did on the
old
> > version (settings for that are way different)?
> >
> I don't have X-Finder Ver.10 yet, so I'm not sure what differences  you
are
> asking about. Can you be more specific?

Some stupid mistake of mine with  the %w setting, that's all.  It's fixed
now.

> > 3-When will the english version come out? 8-)
> >
> Gaku Nakagawa, the author, has said that Toshiki on the SUPER team
> is working on a translation of XF 10 docs right now. Does anybody have
an update?

Great news.

Domingo

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Subject:      Re: FA: Windows 3.0 Software With Box & Manuals

Longden Loo writes:
> We may have to resign ourselves to the notion that the LX is more useful than
> impressive.
>

I dunno. A while ago I was sitting with a  travel agent, calculating air fares
in a Lotus worksheet, looking up phone numbers in the phone book, converting
currencies in the calculator, and writing an email with PNR.

She was very impressed with the speed at which I switched between all the
different apps, and how useful it was. So USEFUL can also be IMPRESSIVE.


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Subject:      Re: Programs that use EMS
Comments: cc: Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM

   >Is there a list of programs that run on the 200lx that can use
   >EMM200 or TREMM. I know of several,  PKZIP/UNZIP, SC and SSC, but
   >am looking for others.
Message-Id: <19991219074716.QUZI1849@12.72.155.172>
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 07:47:16 +0000

Well, they may be difficult to find, but most big applications of the early
1990's probably used EMS.  Framework, Symphony, Enable to name a few ...
not to mention the desktop version of the same Lotus 2.4 that's on our LX
ROM.

On the "available now" front, there's MaxDOS to add to the list you already
had. I believe some of the compilers are also able to use EMS, but I'd have
to read my manuals to be sure (which of course is programming heresy <g>).

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Longden,


>    >Is there a list of programs that run on the 200lx that can use
>    >EMM200 or TREMM. I know of several,  PKZIP/UNZIP, SC and SSC, but
>    >am looking for others.
> Message-Id: <19991219074716.QUZI1849@12.72.155.172>
> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 07:47:16 +0000
>
> Well, they may be difficult to find, but most big applications of the =
early
> 1990's probably used EMS.  Framework, Symphony, Enable to name a few =
...
> not to mention the desktop version of the same Lotus 2.4 that's on our =
LX
> ROM.
>
> On the "available now" front, there's MaxDOS to add to the list you =
already
> had. I believe some of the compilers are also able to use EMS, but I'd =
have
> to read my manuals to be sure (which of course is programming heresy =
<g>).

I like to add

      - Office 3.01 and associated applications
      - WordPerfect
      - PlanPerfect
      - DrawPerfect.

I use these applications daily, especially WordPerfect 5.1+ on my
hp200lx DS, 96B; EMS is set to 7.4MB. The 7.4 MB are used also by 11 SC
sessions and MAXDOS.


Regards

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>2. Perl: Perl4 runs well on the LX. While not as advanced as Perl5 (and
>memory can be a bit tight at times), it is okay for small scripts or just
>trying out ideas. There is a version of Perl available from
>www.palmtop.net (in the SUPER section)

The Perl on SUPER has "PAL extension". What does this extension do?

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>   >Is there a list of programs that run on the 200lx that can use
>   >EMM200 or TREMM. I know of several,  PKZIP/UNZIP, SC and SSC, but
>   >am looking for others.


WordPerfect 5.1 (call wp.exe /r)
PlanPerfect 5.1 (call pl.exe /r)

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"      - Office 3.01 and associated applications
      - WordPerfect
      - PlanPerfect
      - DrawPerfect.


"

Is there a significant speed improvement in task-switching
under Office 3.01 when you use EMS on the LX?

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Subject:      Anyone using BOTH 200LX and Sharp PC3100?

Hello all,

I would like to know, if anyone uses BOTH Sharp PC-3100 and
HPLX DOS palmtops. I know few people had both and device
characteristics differ much, so Sharp was used mainly by
the less technically oriented crowd; but maybe one answers.

I'm especially interested in differences:
what you use them for and which is more likely to be carried
with you on different occasions. Do you synchronize the two?

Now that backlight is coming for LX, comments on low-light
readibility of the Sharp LCD are welcome; as well as mails
from users, who wear glasses. Does the slightly larger basic
font size mean a true advantage over 200LX? I guess the big
Sharp keyboard worth the size penalty, but does LCD too?

Did you consider it's Y2K condition? I mean MS-DOS 3.30
they have in ROM is not OK. Any solution needed / found?

European list members do you know of a place where the Sharp
PC3000 / PC3100 can be purchased, used or new? There is an
American website, offering new PC3000s for 159$, but I'm not
convinced if they're still alive as a company.

Thanks in advance, Sincerely: Tamas Feher

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Hello!

i have windows 1.0/2.0 which one run better on the 200lx?

Thanks Yehuda.

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Date:         Sun, 19 Dec 1999 15:57:17 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> >2. Perl: Perl4 runs well on the LX. While not as advanced as Perl5 (and
> >memory can be a bit tight at times), it is okay for small scripts or just
> >trying out ideas. There is a version of Perl available from
> >www.palmtop.net (in the SUPER section)
>
> The Perl on SUPER has "PAL extension". What does this extension do?

Adds PAL functions (menues, etc.) to Perl. I think it comes with a
demonstration program.

The version of Perl I was referring to was actually the regular version, I
didn't know PAL version was on SUPER...


Cheers,

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On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 13:24:17 +0100 Feher Tamas <etomcat@EGON.GYALOGLO.HU>
writes:
> I would like to know, if anyone uses BOTH Sharp PC-3100 and
> HPLX DOS palmtops.

If memory serves from my comp.sys.palmtop days (I almost never go there
anymore), I think you are
more likely to find a lot more hplx/Poqet users than any of the other
older palmtop combinations.
This due mainly to recent (3 years)deep discounts on a large quantity of
Poqets.   I am one of those.
Does that count?  There are a number of hplx/libretto users, plus a huge
number of hplx/laptop users,
notably among them hplx/omnibook users.

> what you use them for and which is more likely to be carried
> with you on different occasions. Do you synchronize the two?

I used my Poqet heavily in college for typing.  Not much anymore, though
I keep it, thinking of
going back for my Phd.  I use flash cards on my hplx, which none of the
older palmtops use,
so even though synchronization is not too difficult, it's  troublesome
enough not to do it often.
Obviously the smaller one would be carried more.

> Now that backlight is coming for LX, comments on low-light
> readibility of the Sharp LCD are welcome; as well as mails
> from users, who wear glasses. Does the slightly larger basic
> font size mean a true advantage over 200LX? I guess the big
> Sharp keyboard worth the size penalty, but does LCD too?

I don't know about the Sharp, but the Poqet is better than the hplx in
ideal lighting conditions.
In low light, I don't know of any non-backlit palmtops that are easier to
read than the HP200LX.
I do wear glasses, and the larger font is definitely worth the low prices
you can get these days for
an old palmtop.  And there is a backlit Poqet which accepts flash cards
(the Poqet plus), but with its
larger and heavier lithium battery which only lasts a few hours, it
really stretches the definition of
a palmtop.  Most of the older palmtops, including the first Poqet, use AA
batteries, which usually last
between days and weeks, not just hours.


> Did you consider it's Y2K condition? I mean MS-DOS 3.30
> they have in ROM is not OK. Any solution needed / found?

The Poqet web site tells us that the Poqet, with DOS 3.30 also, will be
ok for y2k  (i guess the
built-in programs seem so).   I think it might be possible to download
those from somewhere,
though some other Y2K ready DOS application would be better.

HTH

Domingo

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On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:

> I use these applications daily, especially WordPerfect 5.1+ on my
> hp200lx DS, 96B; EMS is set to 7.4MB. The 7.4 MB are used also by 11
> SC sessions and MAXDOS.

What advantage is there when using WP51 with EMS?

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Subject:      Re: Who is in charge of the LXMAP chart house?
Comments: To: Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
In-Reply-To:  <199912171741.SAA15473@d1o32.telia.com>; from Tomas Moberg on
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> Who administrate the LXMAP map database?
> I have tried to email Mitch, but he does not respond.
> Where do I send my map?

That is me. I emailed you back right after you told me you had a file
available and I never heard from you. Send it directly to me.
--
Mitch
SUPER Team

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:19:25 -0500
From: Mitchell Hamm <mitch@palmtop.net>
To: Tomas Moberg <natas@acc.umu.se>
Subject: Re: MAP for lxmap.
Message-ID: <19991209091925.F2814@palmtop.net>
References: <384B5F60.4E13824B@acc.umu.se>
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tomas,

Yes, please send it and I will post it. Thanks!
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Date:         Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:13:00 -0500
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Cheap Automobile Adapter

Hi jgetz,

>Plug in to cigarette lighter, fused and regulated
>Was made to power a Fujitsu briefcase printer, 12v 3amps
>$4.95
>
>Not listed on their website
>http://www.bgmicro.com
>1-800-276-2206 (orders only)

Are you absolutely certain that it's polarized the right way?  Your
HP200LX could be damaged if it's plugged into an adapter with the wrong
polarity. :-/

Please post this tip again after you've been able to ensure that the
polarity of the adapter is correct for the HP200LX.  It's my
understanding that the HP200LX requires a polarity that is opposite from
what most other devices require.

Just be careful.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET> wrote:

> You'll lose compatibility with the Phonebook apps in Cpack (but you can =
use
> the database app) and within the Windows version of the apps. (It =
doesn't do
> general databases)

Ed, I believe you are only 1/2 right.  It is my understanding
that the HP CPACK Phone app will work just fine with PDB files
that have been modified with the data base application.

I agree that the Windows versions of the apps do not work if
the Phone book file has had it's structure changed by the
database app.


Stan

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al chin <hobchi@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> In merging 4 large DBs (aver 300k) I lost a couple
> dozen records at random or the info in them.
> Essentially some of the records copied but the note
> part in them did not

About how many records do you think were in the combination
GDB file?  And about how many of them had something in the
notes field?  The sum of records + number of notes fields
with something in them is limited to 5000.  In other words, a
record with notes data counts as two towards the 5000 limit.

It could also be that there was a minor corruption in the
structure of the GDB file that caused the notes field record
to become disconnected from it's parent record.

Have you tried running DBCHECK on the individual GDB files and
on the combined file?


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Date:         Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:15:59 -0600
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Though the subject line may seem off topic, this post really isn't. I am
deeply disturbed that Palm users are able to manage their auctions on =
eBay,
including selling and bidding, whereas we are not able to do so via the =
LX.
It seems as if more and more software is being developed for the Palm,
including specialized UPS tracking software.

I would be more than willing to pay a fair market price for software that
would allow me to use eBay via my LX I wonder if eBay would be willing to
work with a software author to get software to do this?

Jeff

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Date:         Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:16:39 -0500
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Here, here!  Jeff I've been wondering the same thing.  I would think that
eBay would have to develop a "text" option for their browser first before it
came become practical though and I wonder if they'll see the point?

Best,

Bill

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 10:15 PM
Subject: eBay & Palm


>>snip<<

I would be more than willing to pay a fair market price for software that
would allow me to use eBay via my LX I wonder if eBay would be willing to
work with a software author to get software to do this?

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On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:16:39 -0500, Bill Sprague <eugarps@WORLDNET.ATT.NET=
> wrote:

> Here, here!  Jeff I've been wondering the same thing.  I would think =
that
> eBay would have to develop a "text" option for their browser first =
before it
> came become practical though and I wonder if they'll see the point?

A year or so ago I was able to use Lynx to do eBay bidding and selling, =
but
it no longer works :( We need an eBay/LX!

Jeff

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I used lynx running on a hpux server just last Week from my palmtop. I
was able to bid without any problem.

Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:16:39 -0500, Bill Sprague <eugarps@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:
>
> > Here, here!  Jeff I've been wondering the same thing.  I would think that
> > eBay would have to develop a "text" option for their browser first before it
> > came become practical though and I wonder if they'll see the point?
>
> A year or so ago I was able to use Lynx to do eBay bidding and selling, but
> it no longer works :( We need an eBay/LX!
>
> Jeff
>
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              S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM
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> Ok, actually, someone has already put maxdos on the system.  Maybe it's
> not being used correctly...

I see that others have described how to actually use MaxDOS.  It is =
intended to
be easier than terminating System Manager (200) but accomplish the same =
thing.

> Do these flash cards actually have batteries (I thought they were =
actually
> electronically erasable requiring no voltage to hold their data).

No, flash cards do not have a battery.  Older SRAM cards do use a battery.=

BattMan tells you the battery is OK so you won't worry about your card =
data.
The program dates from when most cards were SRAM and so most people =
expected a
battery program to tell them about the card battery.

> Well, maybe...I don't really know.   I've read somewhere that using
> batteries wrong can actually cause problems (hardware problems I =
assume).

If the batteries die, you lose your data.  The backup battery is only =
good for
a short time, so don't ever plan to rely on it.  Dead batteries don't =
destroy
the hardware.  Putting the batteries in backwards can damage the hardware.

> > > LXFONT            7.4K
>
> Hmm...Is this the font you get by doing an "Fn ZOOM" in DOS mode?  If =
so,
> quite often.

Try putting the word REM in from of the lxfont line.  This will make the
palmtop skip that line.  When you reboot, you will get the built-in fonts
rather than the ones in lxfont.  See if you notice much of a difference. =
 If
you don't, then don't use lxfont.  If you do like the extra font, then =
you
might consider one that uses less memory.  If you use the built-in =
largest font
and replace only the medium and small fonts, the TSR takes up less memory

> > > CIC100            6.7K
>
> Aaah, is this a modem program?

Yes, you need either cic100 or lxcic to use a PCMCIA modem (ie on that =
plugs
into the card slot).  You don't need either one if you use an external =
modem
that plugs into the serial port.

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Subject:      Re: Programs that use EMS

Longden Loo writes:
>    >Is there a list of programs that run on the 200lx that can use
>    >EMM200 or TREMM. I know of several,  PKZIP/UNZIP, SC and SSC, but
>    >am looking for others.

Turbo C++ Compilers


======================
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davidb@cimatron.co.il
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On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:50:58 -0800, Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net> =
wrote:

> I used lynx running on a hpux server just last Week from my palmtop. I
> was able to bid without any problem.

The version of Lynx that my ISP provides for shell accounts will not work
with eBay :( and WWW/LX also will not work. What version of Lynx are you
using Patrick?

Jeff

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On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> The version of Lynx that my ISP provides for shell accounts will not work
> with eBay :( and WWW/LX also will not work. What version of Lynx are you
> using Patrick?

I have also just verified that via the version of Lynx to which I have
access, I can not even log onto the My eBay page. It just keeps asking if
it's okay to proceed with POST redirection.

Jeff

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Date:         Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:10:20 -0800
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Stan
Thanks for the reply.   This is not the problem.
ttl records 800, even with notes is 1600, dbl that 3200
all in alll still under 5000 ttl file size under 1MB.

With 4 file I merge two and have the problem.
all the merged recs seem to work ok with out corrrupeted
records.
Must be somthing else.


> > In merging 4 large DBs (aver 300k) I lost a couple
> > dozen records at random or the info in them.
> > Essentially some of the records copied but the note
> > part in them did not
>
> About how many records do you think were in the combination
> GDB file?  And about how many of them had something in the
> notes field?  The sum of records + number of notes fields
> with something in them is limited to 5000.  In other words, a
> record with notes data counts as two towards the 5000 limit.
>
> It could also be that there was a minor corruption in the
> structure of the GDB file that caused the notes field record
> to become disconnected from it's parent record.
>
> Have you tried running DBCHECK on the individual GDB files and
> on the combined file?
>
>
> Stan
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Date:         Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:51:16 -0800
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> We need an eBay/LX!

ROFLPIMP...

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stanleyd@CARROLL.COM wrote that modified phonebook files will work in the
APP200 program on a PC.

Correct. I fired up version 1.02 of APP200, copied the Phone.pdb file to
Test.pdb, modified Tests.pdb in the database app and reopened it in the
Phone app. Works just fine. Thanks for the heads up, Stan. Hope your
upcoming holidays are HPpy.
.ed.

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Avi,

Depends will help that condition....

Best,

Bill

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Subject: Re: eBay & Palm


> > We need an eBay/LX!
>
> ROFLPIMP...
>
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On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:51:16 -0800, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> ROFLPIMP...

I was actually being extremely serious!

Jeff

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>>On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:51:16 -0800, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:
>> ROFLPIMP...
>>I was actually being extremely serious!
>>Jeff

OK, I'll step up and display my ignorance. What the %$#@ is ROFLPIMP?

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On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:39:39 -0500, Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE=
.COM> wrote:

> OK, I'll step up and display my ignorance. What the %$#@ is ROFLPIMP?

Rolling in the floor peeing in my pants.

Jeff

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The S25 only allows SMS in PDU mode. I wrote PDU.COM which may
be used as a stand alone program with a wired connection to the
phone, or with an (included) ROBOT script under POST/LX for
wired and IrDA connections. Download from

http://peichl.hplx.net/pdu.zip

I have also bug fixed versions of LXPIC and LXMAP on my site.

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Jeff Johns wrote:
> > OK, I'll step up and display my ignorance. What the %$#@ is ROFLPIMP?
>
> Rolling in the floor peeing in my pants.
>

I too, can't imagine why..... I'd love to access eBay via the palmtop.
It could be quite useful.


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> On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> > The version of Lynx that my ISP provides for shell accounts will not work
> > with eBay :( and WWW/LX also will not work. What version of Lynx are you
> > using Patrick?

I have no idea. I am on my laptop at this time. And I don't
have my palmtop's modem or plug with me so no way to check.
My ISP doesn't have a shell option so I d/l my mail using
ccclxpop. When I want to browse with my 200lx I use procomm
plus 2.01 to dial in to the local library

503-227-3962

Then pick the Multnomah County Web page option. It launchs
Lynx on HP-UX and it seems to work fine. I hit "G"  then
enter www.ebay.com.

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While we're on the subject, I've never been satisfied with the Windows
versions. If only there were a fully data-compatible Windows version of
CPACK (ie one that can read and write .?db files). I collect a lot of data
from the Internet and it would be so much easier to paste the stuff into a
Windows app than a DOS box. Is this perhaps the next big app for the LX
world?

Why didn't HP include the DB apps in its Windows CE handhelds????

__ms__


> You'll lose compatibility with the Phonebook apps in Cpack (but you can
use
> the database app) and within the Windows version of the apps. (It doesn't
do
> general databases)

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Hello
I just tried to open E: in filer amd got A:
The sad thing is that I never noticed I even had an E: drive.
I've really got to be more observant.....
This might be useful, I have an old copy of Quicken for DOS I was trying
to install on my Omnibook from the omnibook external floppy (F:)
The software would not install to C: i guess because it figured that any
drive letter before the floppy drive had to be another floppy drive.
I'll have to see if the Omnibook gets upset if I reassign the external
floppy to A: (just longenough to do the install)

Thanks for the food for thought

Andrew King

Chicago

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Mike
I have an 80 meg Sandisk CF card as the C: drive in my Omnobook 425.
I tried it in my HP200 and it came right up as A: drive.
I'm using a Sandisk brand CF-typeII adaptor but I can't imagine a Viking
brand adaptor wouldn't work as well.

Andrew King
Chicago

Date:    Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:29:51 -0500
From:    Mike Coln <michael.coln@ANALOG.COM>
Subject: Strange Compact Flash Problem

Folks,

I recently purchased a Sandisk 96MB Compact Flash card, together
with a Viking PCMCIA adapter, but I have what appears to be a
compatibibity problem.

1) The 96MB card (with the adapter) is not recognized in either
my 200LX, nor my desktop Win98 machine (with Swapbox Lite PCMCIA
reader), nor a co-worker's laptop.
Is anyone here able to assist?   Thanks very much,
--
..Mike   <michael.coln@analog.com>  phone/fax: 781-937-1280/1069
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Date:         Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:10:36 +0100
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David,

> > I use these applications daily, especially WordPerfect 5.1+ on my
> > hp200lx DS, 96B; EMS is set to 7.4MB. The 7.4 MB are used also by 11
> > SC sessions and MAXDOS.
>
> What advantage is there when using WP51 with EMS?

WP /r loads up to 300kB of menus, error messages and overlays of wp.exe
and wp.fil are stored in EMS memory. This does accelerate the
WordPerfect, which is also nice on a hp200lx.

Regards

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On 20 Dec 1999 03:44:13 -0800, "Bill Sprague" <eugarps@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

> Depends will help that condition....

I am afraid nothing will help. It was a sudden impulse :-)



To those who wonder what this is about:

I posted <ROFLPIMP> to the message mentioning eBay/LX.
<ROFLPIMP> means Rolling on the floor and unable to control
the urunary impulses in my pants :) ... To which my esteemed
friend Bill suggested that Depends will help. Depends is a
brand of absorbing tissue.

Well, wnough of all this! :)

I wish you all whoi celebrate Christmas a Merry Christmas.
To all who celebrate Ramadan, a successful fast. To those
who celebrate Kwanza, a Happy Kwanza. Hanuka has already
passed.

And to all a Happy New Year!

  Avi

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On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:47:10 -0500 Matthew Sheffield
<mws722s@MAIL.SMSU.EDU> writes:
> While we're on the subject, I've never been satisfied with the  Windows
> versions. If only there were a fully data-compatible Windows version
of
> CPACK (ie one that can read and write .?db files). I collect a lot  of
data
> from the Internet and it would be so much easier to paste the stuff
into a
> Windows app than a DOS box. Is this perhaps the next big app for the
> LX world?
>
> Why didn't HP include the DB apps in its Windows CE handhelds????
>

Give the following a try.  It's not much better than hppim, but it's an
alternative:

http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~fronttom/book/gdbwin/index.html

Domingo

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> Hmm...I don't know a thing about this yet.  I got a modem (Noteworthy
> Fax/Modem (14.4kbps) but I got no idea how to use it yet.  I got an old
> copy of procomm lying around..probably put that on the palmtop and see
> what it can do.  Do you think I hv to do much other than plug the modem =
in
> (with driver loaded of course) and boot up with the card in the slot?

You should be able to use the card without rebooting.  Always turn off =
the
palmtop when swapping cards.  Just take out the flash card and put in the
modem.  Then turn the palmtop back on and run whatever program to test =
the
modem.  The palmtop has a data-comm program built-in so you could start =
with
that (type CTRL-Quicken).  Try AT&F for a generic init string.  This =
resets the
modem to its factory settings.

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Date:         Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:28:43 PST
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Subject:      HP Connectivity Pack for 100LX/200LX

I have the HP Connectivity Pack for 100LX / 200LX, HP F1021B, for sale.
It includes the cable,adapters,software,and manuals in the origonal box.
Asking 25$ + shipping.  If interested, please email at

Fiesta_donald@email.com

Mark

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Has anyone ever ran out of variables in LXBatch?  I think I have run
into the 100-var wall, but I'm not sure.  (Don't really want to sit and
count all the variables in the source.. :)

I am adding multiple UID functionality to LXPGP (yes, I still tinker
with it occationally :) and have added five variables, a yes/no to use
the MUID functions, and four UID's.  However, it won't store all four
UID's, only two..  Be it one and two, or one and three, whatever..  (I
have it doing a message "@uida@ @uidb@....")  And even when I exit out
of the dialog for storing the MUID's and reenter, only one is actually
there.

It would be a big rewrite to read/write variables on the fly, and I
imagine it would slow things down a lot as well..  And I've browsed the
source and haven't used any variables that I don't either clear or what
not..  Scary thing is, most of the variables are assigned when doing
some PGP activity, unless LXB allocates all variables in a program on
startup (even those in subroutines) or something, I could have even more
trouble later on with PGPifying breaking.

I'm not the brightest programmer, anyone else have an idea to avoid the
variable limit if I have indeed reached it?  Maybe hack the binary like
I used to do for games, search for 0x64h and change it to something
larger.. :)  Perhaps I would be exercising my restore script again,
though.. :(

Thanks!

--
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Date:         Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:25:40 -0800
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What about buying a cheap CE machine on EBay (Casio Cassiopea goe for less than
100$ and using the Pocket Explorer. Would that work? Yeah, this would mean using
the evil CE from Bill Gates, but heck, if it does the job... might be easier
than actually developing a whole new piece of software that you have to maintain
later on.

Philippe

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Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: eBay & Palm


> Jeff Johns wrote:
> > > OK, I'll step up and display my ignorance. What the %$#@ is ROFLPIMP?
> >
> > Rolling in the floor peeing in my pants.
> >
>
> I too, can't imagine why..... I'd love to access eBay via the palmtop.
> It could be quite useful.
>
>
> Larry Feldman
> LFeldman@USA.net
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Date:         Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:39:15 -0500
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WordPerfect 5.1 will import HPGL files according to the manual.
It does, though my selection has been limited.  You could then
print to a PostScript printer driver.  You can do this all on
the 200LX as well.

I have used HiJakk in various incarnations.  It did not do well
with converting HPGL plots.

David asked what WP5.1 will do with EMS.  "Loads about 580k of
menus, error messages, and overlays from WP.EXE and WP.FIL into
expanded memory, in addition to the memory normally required by
the program." ... "This speeds up parts of the program."
/r option

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Connecting to the serial port of the LX from there connecting to another =
PC should not be any different than doing it from any DOS based PC. =
Check in used bookstores for books on C++/DOS/Serial communications. My =
guess is that if you do it from a regular XT PC (connecting with a null =
modem cable to another PC running a terminal program), you should be =
able to put the program on the LX and run it just as well with the comm =
cable, i think.

Anyone out there can confirm?

This was a typical "Real Time Systems" class project when I was in =
college. But I did it in VB.

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: Agrajag
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 5:50 PM
Subject: C++ Serial port --> 200 LX communications


hello everyone, I am currently in enrolled in a C++ course in school, and or a
final project I am looking to make a program which will communicate with my HP
200LX through a standard 9-pin serial port.  I have seen many programs out which
will do this for me, but I haven't found any information about how to make a
program that will do this.  I anyone has any experience or information that
would help me, I would appreciate the help.

Thank you,

  -John

"Time is viewed in the information age as a commodity that can be bought, sold,
traded and generally controlled at will."

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Date:         Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:59:45 -0500
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Subject:      FT: Looking for compact flash card

I'm looking for a 32 MB compact flash card that will work in a phillips
Nino. I thought that some of you may have an older smaller Cflash card lying
around and may want to trade. I have the following items that that I can
part with:

HP95 512KB w/ cnnct kit.+case
Kodak dc20 camera (low-end digi camera that connects to LX)
Simple tech 48MB ATA FLash PCMCIA card
Foxpro DOS 2.5 and 2.6 Original Disks(unopened) and package.
DACeasy on-the-go  original software w/ manuals unopened
(office type suite w/ WP, spreadsheet, contacts and checkbook accounting)
Motorolla Pocket Cellect modem (takes 9V battery and connects to older
motoralla microtac cell phones).
Automap (ver. 1? it works on the LX orig disks, not sure about manuals)

Obviously I'm not going to trade all these things for one CF card but I'd be
willing to mix-n-match. I'd be willing to do a one-for-one swap for the 48MB
flash card and I'm also willing to dicker so let me know.


BTW: No messages about how "Windoze CE sux". I got the thing for $81+ship so
if it sux I ain't out much. I'm gonna play around with it for a while and
see if it's worthwhile for anything. I'd like to try Ian's wince-xt and see
how it works on it. I'll probably sell it in a few months on ebay if it sux.
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Date:         Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:18:25 -0600
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--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "Steve K" <s.kujubu@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: 200LX For Sale
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:38:12 -0800

Anybody interested in buying a 200LX please email me.  I have original =
box
and serial cable.  Also 28.8 PC card modem for it too.
skujubu@onebox.com



--- end of forwarded message ---


Jeff

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Can anyone send me / tell me where to find a C routine that takes a date
(month, day, year) and returns the day of the week (Mon / Tue, etc)? Thanks.

Brian

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I think it's some calculation, but I don't know what it is. Should be fairly
easy...

Philippe

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Subject: Programming help


> Can anyone send me / tell me where to find a C routine that takes a date
> (month, day, year) and returns the day of the week (Mon / Tue, etc)? Thanks.
>
> Brian
>
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Date:         Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:40:57 -0800
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Does it have to be C?  I know how to do it in Lotus 123.

Brian McIlvaine wrote:
>
> Can anyone send me / tell me where to find a C routine that takes a date
> (month, day, year) and returns the day of the week (Mon / Tue, etc)? Thanks.
>
> Brian
>
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mktime is standard C and will do what you want. Initialize a time
structure with the year, month and day. Call mktime and it will calculate
the day-of-month, day-of-week, and day-of-year. The day of the week will
be a value of 0 to 6, 0 being Sunday. Use this as an index to an array of
strings.

Your library reference might even have an example of this. If not, I can
send it along.


> Can anyone send me / tell me where to find a C routine that takes a date
> (month, day, year) and returns the day of the week (Mon / Tue, etc)? Thanks.
>

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Date:         Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:19:03 -0600
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Matthew Sheffield <mws722s@MAIL.SMSU.EDU> asked, wrt a windoze version of
CPACK, "Is this perhaps the next big app for the LX world?"

It would be nice, but it would be a major undertaking. It took a staff of
hot-shot programmers at HP and Lotus several years to get it right... well,
almost right.  Before that, we need to have turnkey, synchronization
software for Outlook, Act, Lotus Notes, Organizer, and the LX.

On another note, in reply to the question, "Why didn't HP include the DB
apps in its Windows CE handhelds????"  I suppose it was because
"Access-Lite" wasn't in the specs. As I see it, MS built a machine that
would require little or no support. To do that, they left out all the things
that beget questions such as spreadsheet macros, commandline access to the
operating system, batch files, database apps, etc.  --all of the things that
I personally find fascinating. If I can't hack it, I don't want it.<g>

BTW: as Stan D. pointed out, modified .PDB files can be used in the APP200
phone book.
.ed.

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Date:         Tue, 21 Dec 1999 06:37:23 +0100
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Matthew Sheffield wrote:
>
> While we're on the subject, I've never been satisfied with the Windows
> versions. If only there were a fully data-compatible Windows version of
> CPACK (ie one that can read and write .?db files). I collect a lot of data
> from the Internet and it would be so much easier to paste the stuff into a
> Windows app than a DOS box.

Personally, I don't care much about Windows, but some nice people
ported Perl/Tk to Windows a while ago.  If freeware from the world
of Unix is an option for you, you might want to take a look at my
modules, you find them on a CPAN site near you, e.g:
  http://search.cpan.org/search?module=HP200LX::DB

> Is this perhaps the next big app for the LX world?
No, it's not, it's only about 3.7 KB ;)  However, I didn't
provide a save button yet and the script has a lot of bugs.  Currently
it should be good enough for browsing pbd, gdb, ndb, and wdb files.

P.S: The Perl stuff can be found on
  http://www.cpan.org/ports/index.html#win32

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Brian McIlvaine writes:
> Can anyone send me / tell me where to find a C routine that takes a date
> (month, day, year) and returns the day of the week (Mon / Tue, etc)? Thanks.

You can write one yourself! It's easy!
Dos Interrupt 21H function 2CH sets the system date
Dos Interrupt 21H function 2AH gets the system date and in register AL returns
the day of the week. Then you reset the date back to the current date!



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Excellent! (Well, mostly.) This program is precisely what I've been
searching for, i.e. one into which I can paste big gobs of text from the
Internet. Even though it's written to support Japanese characters, I fiddled
around with my fonts for a while and found that Arial Narrow works great in
the datacard.

How about putting on on SUPER, guys?

__ms__

> Give the following a try.  It's not much better than hppim, but it's an
> alternative:
>
> http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~fronttom/book/gdbwin/index.html
>
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Brian McIlvaine wrote:
>Can anyone send me / tell me where to find a C routine that takes a date
>(month, day, year) and returns the day of the week (Mon / Tue, etc)? Thanks.

This is my personal bar trick. Someone can ask me any date, and I can
tell you in a few seconds what day of the week it was, all in my head.
I'm fastest with dates between ~1920 and ~2010.

One day I heard it was possible, so I sat down with Lotus 1-2-3 and
came up with an algorithm, and practiced, practiced, practiced.

I figure this will give me something to fall back on if my current
line of work doesn't pan out.

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> Can anyone send me / tell me where to find a C routine that
> takes a date (month, day, year) and returns the day of the
> week (Mon / Tue, etc)? Thanks.

Here is an awk routine I wrote; it should give you the idea:

function dow(century,year,month,day  ,dow) {
  if ((month -=3D 2) <=3D 0) {
    month +=3D 12;
    if (--year < 0) { year =3D 99; --century; }
  }
  dow =3D ( day + int((13*month-1)/5) + int(year/4) + year
            + int(century/4) - 2*century ) % 7;
  if (dow < 0) dow +=3D 7;
  return dow+1;
  # or do this:
  # return substr("Sunday   Monday   Tuesday  WednesdayThursday Friday   =
Saturday ", 9*dow+1, 9);
}

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Is there anything similar to the AvantGo system for the 200lx?

I would like to be able to download the day's news in a nice portable
format without much fuss or reformatting.

Thanks!

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To Goeldi(or someone else)

I wonder if all XML pages is possible to read with HV?


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Steve wrote:


David asked what WP5.1 will do with EMS.  "Loads about 580k of > menus, =
error messages, and overlays from WP.EXE and WP.FIL into > expanded =
memory, in addition to the memory normally required by > the program." =
... "This speeds up parts of the program."> /r option
>
> Steve


Would you recommend WP instead of PE when using MaxDos?I take it WP is an =
editor,and with a more "heavy" GUI?



Lars





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If you don't need bells and whistles, try WP 1.
Still WP and don't needs ems, max overhead.


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> >    _.>/)_     Thailand. Tooling
> >   (_) \(_)    around lookie, lookie

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Message text written by Ed Padin
 >BTW: No messages about how "Windoze CE sux". I got the thing for $81+sh=
ip
so =

 >if it sux I ain't out much. I'm gonna play around with it for a while a=
nd

 >see if it's worthwhile for anything. I'd like to try Ian's wince-xt and=

see
 >how it works on it. I'll probably sell it in a few months on ebay if it=

sux.<

Hi Ed and List,

I have a small but growing collection of handhelds. I eagerly await a
review from you detailing your experiences with wince and xt-ce. Santa ma=
y
be giving me a new toy this Christmas. Please keep us posted!

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>I wonder if all XML pages is possible to read with HV?

XML can be considered as a simplified version of SGML.
XML is case sensitive. <p> is different from <P>.
though in HTML both would be considered the same.
XML is extensible - You can create your own elements
to meet your publishing demands.

Have a look to http://www.XML.com/pub/Guide/XML_Browsers
It seems, that only a few browsers can handle XML.
So HV would not too. There is no need for a unreadable
language ...

-goe-
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Andy
Where in CHI are you?????
How kom you don't kom to da user meetings?
do join us.....


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I am having some problems with X-Finder and ZIP files.

I have a ZIP file that contains several LZH files, and these contain
.ICN icons.

When I press Enter in the ZIP file, I get the correct list of LZH files.
But pressing Enter on
one of the LZH files, I only get an empty file list, unless I am working
in split view and
the other window has the Trash directory.

Is this a known behaviour? Does it have a solution?

I am using X-Finder R10, with all the documentation in Japanese, that I
cannot read. My setup
regarding ZIP is:

.zip    ,k      ,pkunzip -v %c
        ,200+lt ,pkunzip %c -d %t\\%x;%t\\%x|\\
        ,200+ml ,pkunzip %c -d %o

%r      ,200+l  ,pkunzip

%q      ,500+l  ,pkzip

Other than this small nuisance, a great program, and really worthwile a
try. It also made me get
to know other great programs, like 123g, iconedit, whereis.

I would like that X-Finder could open ZIP files with directories
(archived with pkzip -rp), though.

Thanks in advance,
Paulo

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Goeldie wrote:

>
> XML can be considered as a simplified version of SGML.
> XML is case sensitive. <p> is different from <P>.
> though in HTML both would be considered the same.
> XML is extensible - You can create your own elements
> to meet your publishing demands.
>
> Have a look to http://www.XML.com/pub/Guide/XML_Browsers
> It seems, that only a few browsers can handle XML.
> So HV would not too. There is no need for a unreadable
> language ...
>


The reason for asking is that I just red in an swedish magazine, named =
The Internet Guide,that,and I am quoting:"XHTML is almost te same thing =
as HTML,the difference is that XHTML works together with XML.XML-pages =
can be reached by all kinds of surfmachines,pc:s as mobiles.Therefore =
should all HTML-pages be rebuild to XHTML and HTML"


I will take a look at the webpage you refered to and see if I can get =
somewhise wiser.


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Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:39:05 -0500 (EST)

01h07m21s ago ...
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Paulo Custodio wrote:

> I have a ZIP file that contains several LZH files, and these contain
> .ICN icons.
>
> When I press Enter in the ZIP file, I get the correct list of LZH =
files.
> But pressing Enter on one of the LZH files, I only get an empty file =
list,
> unless I am working in split view and the other window has the Trash
> directory.
>
> Is this a known behaviour? Does it have a solution?

Hmmm - first I've heard of this.  Just tried to duplicate it by
creating a .zip file with several .lzh icon collections inside.  Worked
as it should, even opened the icons in iconedit when pressing ENTER on
the icon name.  Didn't try actually editing and saving any of the icons
in the test, though.

> I am using X-Finder R10, with all the documentation in Japanese, that I
> cannot read.

Same here.  It IS the best version so far  8-)

> My setup regarding ZIP is:
>
> .zip    ,k      ,pkunzip -v %c

Same as mine.  Works OK here.

>         ,200+lt ,pkunzip %c -d %t\\%x;%t\\%x|\\
>         ,200+ml ,pkunzip %c -d %o

These are a lot different from what I use, but shouldn't matter.  They
control behaviour with ShiftEnter or Enter on a marked file.

> %r      ,200+l  ,pkunzip

Same here.

> %q      ,500+l  ,pkzip

I have:

%q  ,240+l  ,pkzip              #160+l

The lower memory allotment works with EMS.  This shouldn't matter
either for your problem.

The problem seems to be listing the included .lzh files.  What are your
.env file settings for .lzh?


Later

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On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> Would you recommend WP instead of PE when using MaxDos?I take it WP is
> an editor,and with a more "heavy" GUI?

WP is a fully fledged word processor, not "just" a text editor like PE.
They serve different purposes - I wouldn't want to write my programs in WP
but OTOH I wouldn't want to write text in PE if I needed different font
styles, text centering, etc.

WP never struck me as a "heavy" program. It's text based, so there is no
GUI. It is certainly much larger than PE, though.


Cheers,

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For the sake of anyone else who might be tempted to try this Windows program
to open database files, use the following URL
http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/lzh/gdw090bs.lzh instead.  When
I went to the URL DDV pointed out, it got me a version that was not the
latest revision.

There are some other interesting items on the author's page, such as an
appointment synchronization tool for Outlook (!) - in beta form, check out
http://fronttom.freeservers.com/main.html.

Alan

>Give the following a try.  It's not much better than hppim, but it's an
>alternative:
>
>http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~fronttom/book/gdbwin/index.html

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Hi David,

> >    >Is there a list of programs that run on the 200lx that can use
> >    >EMM200 or TREMM. I know of several,  PKZIP/UNZIP, SC and SSC, but
> >    >am looking for others.
>
> Turbo C++ Compilers

REALLY?
I thought Turbo C 2.0 was the last version that runs on the palmtop.
Which compiler do you use? Do you also run the GUI for this compiler or
just the plain compiler?

GTX
daniel

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I had the follwing settings for .LZH
.lzh    ,192+lt ,lha x -cmrx %c %t\\%x;\\,%t\\%x
        ,250c   ,lt %c
        ,140ct  ,miel %c

These were the defaults from Finder R10. Then I have tried Al Kind's
suggestion:
.lzh    ,k      ,lha l %c
        ,192+lt ,lha x %c %t\\%x;$p %p\\%x
        ,192+ml ,lha x %c %o

Both without success.

If I use a single window, then opening the LZH file in the ZIP file
gives an empty file list.
If I use two windows, I only get the list of icons in the LZH if on the
second window I
have the Trash directory, where a copy of the LZH file is made.

It must be some other configuration...

Thanks anyway.
Paulo

> Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:39:05 -0500 (EST)
>
> 01h07m21s ago ...
> On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Paulo Custodio wrote:
>
> > I have a ZIP file that contains several LZH files, and these contain
> > .ICN icons.
> >
> > When I press Enter in the ZIP file, I get the correct list of LZH
files.
> > But pressing Enter on one of the LZH files, I only get an empty file
list,
> > unless I am working in split view and the other window has the Trash
> > directory.
> >
> > Is this a known behaviour? Does it have a solution?
>
> Hmmm - first I've heard of this.  Just tried to duplicate it by
> creating a .zip file with several .lzh icon collections inside.
Worked
> as it should, even opened the icons in iconedit when pressing ENTER on
> the icon name.  Didn't try actually editing and saving any of the
icons
> in the test, though.
>
> > I am using X-Finder R10, with all the documentation in Japanese,
that I
> > cannot read.
>
> Same here.  It IS the best version so far  8-)
>
> > My setup regarding ZIP is:
> >
> > .zip    ,k      ,pkunzip -v %c
>
> Same as mine.  Works OK here.
>
> >         ,200+lt ,pkunzip %c -d %t\\\\%x;%t\\\\%x|\\\\
> >         ,200+ml ,pkunzip %c -d %o
>
> These are a lot different from what I use, but shouldn't matter.  They
> control behaviour with ShiftEnter or Enter on a marked file.
>
> > %r      ,200+l  ,pkunzip
>
> Same here.
>
> > %q      ,500+l  ,pkzip
>
> I have:
>
> %q  ,240+l  ,pkzip              #160+l
>
> The lower memory allotment works with EMS.  This shouldn't matter
> either for your problem.
>
> The problem seems to be listing the included .lzh files.  What are
your
> .env file settings for .lzh?
>
>
> Later
>
> Peniel
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Well, so far I'm not all that impressed. The contact and appointment
applications have decent capabilities but they are somewhat harder to use
than the LX. The operating system is a bit of a hog but 8MB is enough to do
the basics. The channel browser is nice but you can do much the same things
with HV, although it's a lot more automated when used with IE4 and
activesynch. Activesynch is kinda weird. It seems to work sporadically,
although I've heard good things about it so it may be something on my end.

It's got some features that are nice and it was a great value at $90 total.
It's got a voice recorder and the most intelligent handwriting recognition
I've seen (Maybe Newton was better?). The virtual keyboard is still faster
but I think that, with practice, the handwriting may get quicker. People
complain about the OS being slow but I found it to be zippy enough. I
haven't gotten annoyed with it yet. It's  a little large for a palm device
but not exceedingly so. It fits the hand nicely and has space to rest the
heel of your hand. It has a burnished aluminum case that is a blue color.
The screen is not as good as the LX but is very readable in normal room
light. In any dim light you have to use the back light. It's got a feature
where you can make the back light come on whenever the pen taps. You can
also leave the light on indefinitely until the unit auto powers off. I
haven't had it long enough to comment on battery life. It comes with a
serial cable and power adapter.

All in all, I'd say that the $90 price can't be beat. I recently bought a
Casio PV-200 for my wife at the same price and this is a much better value
(My wife still likes the PV-200 better, tho 'cause it's simple.) If what you
want is a WinCE device then the Nino 210 on onsale auction is a good choice.
It can never be a replacement for an HP200LX unless all you use the LX for
is a PDA. If you're loking for something that can interface nicely with
Outlook and IE4 offline content then the Nino is a good choice.

I plan to try running the XT-CE emulator and see how bad it is. Once I have
a CF card for it I'll try. Even with 8MB space is at a premium because WinCE
takes about 3MB to run.





>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom Salwasser mailto:TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM
>Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 6:43 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: HPLX-L Windoze CE %$#
>
>
>Message text written by Ed Padin
> >BTW: No messages about how "Windoze CE sux". I got the thing
>for $81+ship
>so
> >if it sux I ain't out much. I'm gonna play around with it
>for a while and
>
> >see if it's worthwhile for anything. I'd like to try Ian's
>wince-xt and
>see
> >how it works on it. I'll probably sell it in a few months on
>ebay if it
>sux.<
>
>Hi Ed and List,
>
>I have a small but growing collection of handhelds. I eagerly await a
>review from you detailing your experiences with wince and
>xt-ce. Santa may
>be giving me a new toy this Christmas. Please keep us posted!
>
>Tom Salwasser
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On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 17:12:06 +0100 Paulo Custodio
<paulo.custodio@SNAFU.DE> writes:
> I had the follwing settings for .LZH
> .lzh    ,192+lt ,lha x -cmrx %c %t\\%x;\\,%t\\%x
>         ,250c   ,lt %c
>         ,140ct  ,miel %c
>
> These were the defaults from Finder R10. Then I have tried Al Kind's
> suggestion:
> .lzh    ,k      ,lha l %c
>         ,192+lt ,lha x %c %t\\%x;$p %p\\%x
>         ,192+ml ,lha x %c %o
>
> Both without success.

I asume that lha.exe is in your path?   Does clicking on a .lzh directly
open it?

Just some ideas.

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I'd like to try WinCE-XT too! Where is it?

Thanks!

Philippe

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Subject: Windoze CE %$#


Message text written by Ed Padin
 >BTW: No messages about how "Windoze CE sux". I got the thing for $81+ship
so
 >if it sux I ain't out much. I'm gonna play around with it for a while and

 >see if it's worthwhile for anything. I'd like to try Ian's wince-xt and
see
 >how it works on it. I'll probably sell it in a few months on ebay if it
sux.<

Hi Ed and List,

I have a small but growing collection of handhelds. I eagerly await a
review from you detailing your experiences with wince and xt-ce. Santa may
be giving me a new toy this Christmas. Please keep us posted!

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On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:25:40 -0800, Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

> What about buying a cheap CE machine on EBay (Casio Cassiopea goe for =
less
> than 100$ and using the Pocket Explorer. Would that work? Yeah, this =
would
> mean using the evil CE from Bill Gates, but heck, if it does the job... =
might
> be easier than actually developing a whole new piece of software that =
you
> have to maintain later on.
>
> Philippe


Bingo!

Thats exactly what I did, but I got an Jornada 420.
Hey! Its an HP and it can still fit in your pocket. (:-)

I'll be adding it and my setup to my web site as soon as I have time.



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On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:59:45 -0500, Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> wrote:

> I'm looking for a 32 MB compact flash card that will work in a phillips
> Nino. I thought that some of you may have an older smaller Cflash card =
lying
> around and may want to trade. I have the following items that that I =
can
> part with:


Hi Ed,

If nobody takes you up on your offer CompUSA has 32MB Lexar cards going =
for
$100.00 that will work in the Nino. But as you know SanDisk is the
best. (:-)

BTW: What model of the did you get?


HTH


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Does anyone know if a HP Model 110 computer in goodworking condition is
worth anything?

Jeff

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-----Original Message-----
From: Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: eBay & Palm


On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:25:40 -0800, Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

> What about buying a cheap CE machine on EBay (Casio Cassiopea goe for less
> than 100$ and using the Pocket Explorer. Would that work? Yeah, this would
> mean using the evil CE from Bill Gates, but heck, if it does the job...
might
> be easier than actually developing a whole new piece of software that you
> have to maintain later on.
>
> Philippe

Another route to go might actually be getting a Palm... The palm IIIe sells
for about $160
brand new, and IMO HP users will feel more kinship with the palm than the
HP... they have
more in common than ya might think at first. :)   both have long battery
life, HP is basically
a PC-XT and the Palm is 'basically' a Mac Classic with a similar OS.

I use a combination of a Palm and my HP for my handheld solution... there
are some things
that the HP can't be beat on but Palm is worthy of consideration as it does
a suprising
number of things well... while still getting HP 100/200lx like battery
life... which is something
which can't be said of the WinCE crowd. :)

Dan
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On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:19:51 -0600, Alchemist <driden@STLNET.COM> wrote:

> Another route to go might actually be getting a Palm... The palm IIIe =
sells
> for about $160

A bit of investigation using a newer version of Lynx proves that it is
possible to access eBay with Lynx which (I believe) means that eBay isn't
using Java. If this is the case, we need an eBay/LX.

Jeff

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Please refresh my memory about the 110--is that something about 18 years or older
that had a HP Basic language and looked like a PC but was mostly a programmable
calculator with a big LCD?

Thanks!

Roleigh

At 01:01 PM 12/21/1999 -0600, you wrote:
>Does anyone know if a HP Model 110 computer in goodworking condition is
>worth anything?
>
>Jeff

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On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:49:06 -0600, Roleigh Martin <rol@UHC.COM> wrote:

> Please refresh my memory about the 110--is that something about 18 =
years or older
> that had a HP Basic language and looked like a PC but was mostly a =
programmable
> calculator with a big LCD?

Yup, that's it and it has Lotus 1-2-3 built into it and has an external
3-1/2" floppy drive.

Jeff

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LX Cribbage 1.2 is ready for download here:

    http://sdl.continet.com/~support/crib.zip

This version contains the following changes:

    Cribbage board is larger and easier to follow

    "Show" (F7) now takes another F7, so you can pop it up and hide
    it again with F7-F7.  In addition, it fills in the score for you
    on your hand.  Thus, F7-F7 automatically scores your hand.

    A memory leak with "Show" was fixed, along with some other display
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Tue, 21 Dec 1999 16:46:58 -0500 (EST)

01h20m24s ago ...
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> A bit of investigation using a newer version of Lynx proves that it is
> possible to access eBay with Lynx...

Yep.  Tried it from my SEFLIN Freenet account using Lynx 2.8.2  -
worked OK.  If you use Lynx and don't know the version, try hitting "H"
for help, then selecting "Lynx Information".  Should tell the version
number.

Later

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I've purchased a 20 megabyte type II card, and have some questions about
using it.  Does one leave the card in the 200LX when one is not actively
using it, or is it better to always take the card out when one is done using
the card?  How much does use of a RAM card such as this decrease
battery-life, if at all?

TIA,

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On 1999-12-21 Qman said:

   >Bingo!
   >Thats exactly what I did, but I got an Jornada 420.
   >Hey! Its an HP and it can still fit in your pocket. (:-)
   >I'll be adding it and my setup to my web site as soon as I have
   >time.

And how much did you pay for the Jornada 420, pray tell?  Curious minds want
to know.  <grin>

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>
>I've purchased a 20 megabyte type II card, and have some
>questions about
>using it.  Does one leave the card in the 200LX when one is
>not actively
>using it, or is it better to always take the card out when one
>is done using
>the card?

Leave it in. I think the HP95 runs down the batteries but not the 200lx.

>  How much does use of a RAM card such as this decrease
>battery-life, if at all?

It uses a little power when it reads and more power when it writes but does
not decrease battery life all that much.


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On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> I thought Turbo C 2.0 was the last version that runs on the palmtop.
> Which compiler do you use? Do you also run the GUI for this compiler or
> just the plain compiler?

Turbo C 2.01 is the latest plain C-compiler to work on the LX. Turbo C++
v2.0 (or Borland C++ v2.0) is the latest (Borland) C++ compiler to work on
the LX, but it also handles plain ANSI C, better than TC2.0 I imagine.

I've had TC 2.0 with GUI on the LX and it worked nicely (once you alter
the colours to suit the LX). I've also had TC++ 2.0 on the palmtop, but
removed it due to space constraints...

I didn't use EMS for either, though.


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At 03:01 PM 12/21/1999 -0600, you wrote:
>On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:49:06 -0600, Roleigh Martin <rol@UHC.COM> wrote:
>
> > Please refresh my memory about the 110--is that something about 18 years or older
> > that had a HP Basic language and looked like a PC but was mostly a programmable
> > calculator with a big LCD?
>
>Yup, that's it and it has Lotus 1-2-3 built into it and has an external
>3-1/2" floppy drive.

I remember now.  It had something like 16 lines by 40 characters in the LCD.  This
was just before they released the HP 125, correct?  I was working at a steel foundry
as a DP Manager then and we bought the HP 125 (my brother also bought one too).  I
was looking at the HP 110 but never bought one.  I bought a Vector Graphic 3000 as
my first computer (CPM O/S).  My first HP computer was an HP 95.  First HP calculator
was an HP 12C.  Since the 95, I bought next a HP 100, and now the HP 200.

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On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:21:18 -0800, Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

> I'd like to try WinCE-XT too! Where is it?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Philippe


Hi All,

XT-CE can be found at:
http://www.xt-ce.com

and while your at it also checkout:

PocketDOS - MSDOS 6.22 compatible DOS for your Pocket WinCE Computer
http://www.pocketdos.com


HTH

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The new version of AUTOCAPS now also allows double clicks at
the beginning of a word to capitalize it's first letter. See
the DOC file for further information. Download from

http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/autocaps.zip

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So how do they compare?

Philippe

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Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: Windoze CE %$#


On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:21:18 -0800, Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

> I'd like to try WinCE-XT too! Where is it?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Philippe


Hi All,

XT-CE can be found at:
http://www.xt-ce.com

and while your at it also checkout:

PocketDOS - MSDOS 6.22 compatible DOS for your Pocket WinCE Computer
http://www.pocketdos.com


HTH

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On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 17:10:37 +0600, David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET> wrote:

> On 1999-12-21 Qman said:
>
>    >Bingo!
>    >Thats exactly what I did, but I got an Jornada 420.
>    >Hey! Its an HP and it can still fit in your pocket. (:-)
>    >I'll be adding it and my setup to my web site as soon as I have
>    >time.
>
> And how much did you pay for the Jornada 420, pray tell?  Curious minds =
want
> to know.  <grin>


Got it like new for $210.00 shipped.  (:-)



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On 1999-12-21 Dan said:
   >Another route to go might actually be getting a Palm... The palm
   >IIIe sells for about $160
   >brand new, and IMO HP users will feel more kinship with the palm
   >than the HP... they have
   >more in common than ya might think at first. :)   both have long
   >battery life, HP is basically
   >a PC-XT and the Palm is 'basically' a Mac Classic with a similar OS.

Unfortunately, the Palmpilots do not come with a keyboard...which is
absolutely essential, in my view.


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On 1999-12-21 Jeff Johns said:

   >A bit of investigation using a newer version of Lynx proves that it
   >is possible to access eBay with Lynx which (I believe) means that
   >eBay isn't using Java. If this is the case, we need an eBay/LX.

Doesn't Lynx run on the 200LX?  At any rate, I'd be interested in
experimenting with this version of Lynx.  I've heard its speed is
impressive.  Where can one download it, pray tell?

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Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 19:18:45 -0500
To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
From: kesselma@legato.com (Glenn Kesselman)
Subject: HPLX-L Form Response


Subscriber Comments: I am trying to find out how to export the
phonebook (x.adb)
from a 200LX into a tab delimited file, for import into
a Palm VII.
I have win98 and NT systems.
Thanks - G. Kesselman

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This unit might make a nice museum piece. I used one in HP field service
for a couple of years. Very rugged. Kinda reminds me of the 100/200lx
only bigger. We had speed upgrades for the 110+. We pulled the cpu chip
and soldered in a nec v-30, and rewired the multiplier on the clock. Hpil
was nice for adding peripherials. Worked kinda like usb. Even back then,
there were scsi adpaters and such. This was used to run diagnostics on HP
equipment with the beast. We had problems with the batteries. The
adapters were chargers. You could not run off the adapter with no
batteries. As far as the diskette drives go, the 9114 was a bit flakey.
The 9114b was nice dsdd.

David Peterson

On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:01:14 -0600 Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> writes:
> Does anyone know if a HP Model 110 computer in goodworking condition
> is
> worth anything?
>
> Jeff
>

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Date:         Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:20:17 -0600
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http://www.thinkoutside.com/  has a pretty cool looking keyboard for the
palmpilot.


> Unfortunately, the Palmpilots do not come with a keyboard...which is
> absolutely essential, in my view.

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Subject:      Re: HP Model 110
Comments: To: rol@UHC.COM
In-Reply-To:  "rol@UHC.COM"'s message of Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:49:06 -0600

   Date:    Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:49:06 -0600
   From:    Roleigh Martin <rol@UHC.COM>

   Please refresh my memory about the 110--is that something about 18 years or older
   that had a HP Basic language and looked like a PC but was mostly a programmable
   calculator with a big LCD?

   Thanks!

   Roleigh

   At 01:01 PM 12/21/1999 -0600, you wrote:
   >Does anyone know if a HP Model 110 computer in goodworking condition is
   >worth anything?
   >
   >Jeff

No!!  The 110 was a full-fledged laptop, bios compatible with the PC,
but had a 16x80 LCD screen.  It had HPIL for connecting many
peripherals, and a built-in 300 baud modem.  My service manual is
dated 1984.  BASIC was an option.

I was working at HPLABS at the time, and got one.  I still have a dead
Portable+, the follow-on model, and the Service manuals for both the
110 and the P+, as well as ALL the peripherals, including the external
video display, an HPIL to HPIB converter, and the diagnostic module
for the P+.

The 110's project name was NOMAD, so the followon was VGER.  I also
got to know the developers, who were in HP's Corvallis Division.

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Subject:      Re: HP Model 110

The HP110 was later than the HP125.  The 125 was a CPM machine.  The
125 looked exactly like an HP2621 or similar 12" screen terminal,
except for the HPIB connector on the back for the disk drives, and
could have a printer in the top.  I had one of these, built out of a
HP2621 with a little help from the division that produced them (Santa
Rosa Terminal Division?).

There was an HP120 which was a similar CPM machine, but was the size of a
2382 terminal with a 9" screen, like the later HP150.

The calculator-like machine with built-in BASIC came from Colorado,
IIRC, and grew out of instrument controllers.  I think that grew into
the 9826/36, but I can't recall the model number.

HP had their computer development spread all over the place, with not
a lot of consistency, although every now and then wierd things would
work together.  This got MUCH better after we got email by UUCP spread
through a lot of development parts of the company.

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-----Original Message-----
From: David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: eBay & Palm


>Unfortunately, the Palmpilots do not come with a keyboard...which is
>absolutely essential, in my view.

There are quite a few keyboard options... Silkyboard is one that comes to
mind,
its a QWERTY keyboard overlay that overlays the 'GRAFITTI' area of the palm
and
you can type on it without having an onscreen keyboard overlapping your
screen. Just
tap away with the pen.

A friend of mine uses this setup daily with his SprintPCS phone to telnet
into routers
and his network.  (hes a network admin)... Not a bad internet solution...
weighing under
a pound all said and done. :)

Basically picture a Palm with a tiny keyboard where the 'handwriting' area
is and
thats what im talking about... works pretty well.... there are 3-4 companies
doing it,
and there are a couple external keyboards for the palm as well... one even
folds
up when not in use.

Is it an HP? no!  can it run DOS?  no!   but it is suprisingly useful... its
no accident that
palm is so much more popular than WindowsCE.  They have a few of the GUI
perks
and HWR, but its roots have alot in common with the HP... long battery
life.... usefullness
over glitz... etc.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com




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Hi All,

For those interested in more info. On PocketDOS. Just pulled this post
from my saved file folder.

HIH


--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: pocketdos@my-deja.com
Subject: ANN: Demo version of PocketDOS is now available
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:01:15 GMT

Q: What is PocketDOS?
A: "PocketDOS is an MS-DOS 6.22 compatible DOS for your Microsoft
Windows CE or Psion/Symbian EPOC32 based Pocket Computer. In addition
to a full DOS, PocketDOS lets you install and run many DOS programs* on
your Pocket Computer. PocketDOS also lets you access devices such as
touchscreens, built-in and external modems, IR ports, flash disks,
network drives and more from within DOS and DOS programs."
(* Intel 8086/80186 compatible using CGA, HP-LX or text display modes)

Q: When will PocketDOS be available?
A: Windows CE v1.0 and higher on H/PC and H/PC Pro platforms - Now
   Windows CE v2.01 and higher on P/PC platforms - February 2000
   Psion/Symbian EPOC32 platforms - February 2000

Q: How much does it cost to register?
A: Full version of PocketDOS containing a complete set of DOS
utilities and a user manual - 40USD

Q: Where can I download a demo copy?
A: http://www.pocketdos.com


Any queries should be addressed to:

queries#pocketdos.com  (replace # with @)


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.


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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:04:09 MEST
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So this subject may be a little offending, but it
seems to be true for me. Yesterday I downloaded
GDBWIN and loaded some of my ?db apps. phone.pdb
and a xyz.gdb file. Now I can't load those files
with the built-in database and the phone app.

Has anybody made the same experience?

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Hi!

I would like to use my flashdisk from my HPLX also in my notebook (running NT),
I newly got=2E But NT does not accept it=2E It asks for a driver=2E=20=


Does anybody have experiences?

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> This might be useful, I have an old copy of Quicken for DOS I was trying
> to install on my Omnibook from the omnibook external floppy (F:)

This is why E: is useful, to allow software that
interprets A: as a floppy and refusing to install on
floppies.

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Roleigh Martin <rol@UHC.COM> asked about the HP 110.

It was one of, if not the first, laptop computers and made a big splash in
the press at the time. It was a full fledged, DOS 2.1 computer with 1-2-3
rel 1A built in. It also had an editor and several other programs in ROM.
It didn't have Basic in it. I added Pascal 3.02 and used the machine for a
couple of years until the Portable Plus came along.  It had an 80X14 screen
that was almost unreadable because of the reflective coating. (Hence the
title for my 17 year running column: "Through the Looking Glass.") The HP
Portable (110) was the machine that Hal Goldstein used to start his
business, and somewhere in there lies a tale of how he and I met.

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>I would like to use my flashdisk from my HPLX also in my notebook (running NT),

>I newly got. But NT does not accept it. It asks for a driver.

What type is it?

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Stefan,

> The new version of AUTOCAPS now also allows double clicks at
> the beginning of a word to capitalize it's first letter. See
> the DOC file for further information. Download from

Thank you for writing this software. It works fine here!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Regards

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<<Does anyone know if a HP Model 110 computer in goodworking condition is
worth anything?>>

It was discontinued in 1985!  Just before I left HP, I employee purchased a
new HP 110 and a 70 lb new LaserJet (the original). I started our business
writing about it in The HP Portable Paper.  I kept our data base of
subscribers on it. I created our marketing literature on it and printed to
the LaserJet.

Does your HP110 really work?  The problem is its battery which powers the
thing.  Hard to believe that is still working.

The HP110is like the HP 95LX (sort of DOS compatible, half screen, good
built-ins). The Portable Plus (like the 100LX/200LX) came out after that.

Unfortunately, I don't think it is worth anything. We still have a couple of
brand new Portable Pluses (they might be German language, I forget) in our
basement.  Unfortunately, they aren't worth anything, or we would have sold
them<g>.

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              Rob Morrison <robpm@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Is this thing in English or only in Japanese?  I cannot even figure out how
to download it.  Any thoughts or ideas.

Rob Morrison

>Give the following a try.  It's not much better than hppim, but it's an
>alternative:
>
>http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~fronttom/book/gdbwin/index.html

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Several of us in the Chicago chapter of PPC obtained these by a
special purchase offering, probably as HP discontinued them.
Those were the glory days of HP-IL. We had several of them
interconnected with 41's, 71's, external monitors, disk and
cassette drives, and an RS-232 interface to the rest of
whatever.

Very heavy device with a built in 300 baud modem which I used
extensively to connect with variously related BBS interests.

It's all boxed up around here somewhere.

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:28:41 -0800
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> >Unfortunately, the Palmpilots do not come with a keyboard...which is
> >absolutely essential, in my view.
>
> There are quite a few keyboard options... <snip>

In addition, that cool Newton keyboard that works with the LX also works
with the Palm Pilot, or so I'm told.

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Is this just another version of xt-ce or is it a completely different
product offering?

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Quinton Jones Jr mailto:qman@EARTHLINK.NET
>Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 11:55 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: HPLX-L Fwd: ANN: Demo version of PocketDOS is now available
>
>
>Hi All,
>
>For those interested in more info. On PocketDOS. Just pulled this post
>from my saved file folder.
>
>HIH
>
>
>--- begin of forwarded message ---
>
>From: pocketdos@my-deja.com
>Subject: ANN: Demo version of PocketDOS is now available
>Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:01:15 GMT
>
>Q: What is PocketDOS?
>A: "PocketDOS is an MS-DOS 6.22 compatible DOS for your Microsoft
>Windows CE or Psion/Symbian EPOC32 based Pocket Computer. In addition
>to a full DOS, PocketDOS lets you install and run many DOS programs* on
>your Pocket Computer. PocketDOS also lets you access devices such as
>touchscreens, built-in and external modems, IR ports, flash disks,
>network drives and more from within DOS and DOS programs."
>(* Intel 8086/80186 compatible using CGA, HP-LX or text display modes)
>
>Q: When will PocketDOS be available?
>A: Windows CE v1.0 and higher on H/PC and H/PC Pro platforms - Now
>   Windows CE v2.01 and higher on P/PC platforms - February 2000
>   Psion/Symbian EPOC32 platforms - February 2000
>
>Q: How much does it cost to register?
>A: Full version of PocketDOS containing a complete set of DOS
>utilities and a user manual - 40USD
>
>Q: Where can I download a demo copy?
>A: http://www.pocketdos.com
>
>
>Any queries should be addressed to:
>
>queries#pocketdos.com  (replace # with @)
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
>
>
>--- end of forwarded message ---
>
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 07:43:29 -0800
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Thanks Stefan.  I've tried it already and it looks just, well... SUPER, and
takes less than 1k of RAM.

Should go a long way towards eliminating my fumbling on the shift keys.

Maybe Santa Claus lives in Germany this year.

- Longden

PS - I used Norton Utilities to reset the toggle from Alt-C, which conflicted
with a Lotus macro, but  I'd appreciate it if anyone knows the debug cmds
necessary to change offset 0x0A from 2E (Alt-C) to 19 (Alt-P).  I'd like to
store that script.   (Stefan, would that be a useful addition to the doc?)






Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> on 12/21/99 05:32:02 PM

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Subject:  ANN: AUTOCAPS 2.0




The new version of AUTOCAPS now also allows double clicks at
the beginning of a word to capitalize it's first letter. See
the DOC file for further information. Download from

http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/autocaps.zip

or

http://peichl/hplx.net/autocaps.zip

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Is there any wireless options for the 200lx, besides a cellphone?
Any help would be apperciated
                                                Thanks,
                                                        Ashwin Balan
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I live in Italy and I bought a 100LX 2M in New York a few years ago.
Last September my fantastic little PC dropped from my hand; I "repaired" and it is still working.
Could anyone be so kind to tell me if it is possible to buy the plastic spare parts of the top of my HP100LX? (From Italy by AMEX).
Thanks
Giulio Girolami

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:05:51 -0500
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Would there be any interest in a box that would convert PS/2 keyboard
signals to serial data? It would allow you to grab any handy PS/2 keyboard
and use it for data entry and then put it back. Does that make sense to
anyone but me?

If it required a wall wart power adapter?
If it had a built-in rechargeable battery?
If it used a cell phone battery?
If it required power from a nearby computer's PS/2 port?
If it required you to supply your own 9 pin to <whatever> adapter for your
PDA?
If the unit cost US$40?

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:22:57 -0500
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Subject:      Re: .HPGL --> .PS or .XXX, EMS for WP5.1
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Hello Laust

First I want to say:"hello" to you as a scandinavian neighbour.
I have noticed your presence here but haven't yet had the opportunity to =
"converse" with you.

Laust wrote:



> WP is a fully fledged word processor, not "just" a text editor like =
PE.> They serve different purposes - I wouldn't want to write my programs =
in WP> but OTOH I wouldn't want to write text in PE if I needed different =
font
> styles, text centering, etc.> WP never struck me as a "heavy" program. =
It's text based, so there is no
> GUI. It is certainly much larger than PE, though.
>

OK,I thought perhaps the GUI was heavy in WP,and as it isn't and I only =
need a texteditor to Plus,I think PE is a better choice to me.

However why not memo?Isn't there a place on Internet where I can download =
memo and then have one outside systemmanager?Why learn a new program when =
you are already familiar with one?


BTW,I live just 20km from the new bridge between our countries,will you =
also attend to its inaugural ceremony next year?Seems to be a hell of a =
party:-)


Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:24:51 -0500 (EST)

Hey Rick!

   Yes, definately! but it would have to be small & self powered!

   AJKInd

18m60s ago ...
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Rick Kozak wrote:

> Would there be any interest in a box that would convert PS/2 keyboard
> signals to serial data? It would allow you to grab any handy PS/2 =
keyboard
> and use it for data entry and then put it back. Does that make sense to
> anyone but me?
>
> If it required a wall wart power adapter?
> If it had a built-in rechargeable battery?
> If it used a cell phone battery?
> If it required power from a nearby computer's PS/2 port?
> If it required you to supply your own 9 pin to <whatever> adapter for =
your
> PDA?
> If the unit cost US$40?
>
> rick
>
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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:28:05 +0100
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If I remember well, there have been 2 versions of the 110, with
slightly different screens, and then the
110+. The 110+ was more, though not entirely, DOS compatible, and it
had a bigger and brighter screen. I still have one working, and I would
like the LX had such a bright screen. Whether they are worthwhile to
have depends on what you plan to do with them. They are good, solid
machines. The 200LX is more capable, the 110s are easier to sit and
type, the 110+ is that, and it has a more comfortable screen. Much
software is available, and several DOS applications have been
especially adapted to the Portables, as they were called.

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:59:15 -0700
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> Would there be any interest in a box that would convert PS/2 keyboard
> signals to serial data? It would allow you to grab any handy PS/2 keyboard
>
> If it required a wall wart power adapter?
> If it had a built-in rechargeable battery?
> If it used a cell phone battery?
> If it required power from a nearby computer's PS/2 port?
> If it required you to supply your own 9 pin to <whatever> adapter for your
> PDA?

If all these are required then no, not at all.

If it was a small box with a PS/2 port in, serial port out, and a place to
pop in several rechargeable AA batteries, yes I would be very interested.

Mike Kopplin

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:02:34 -0600
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              Andrew King <kinga@IIT.EDU>
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I would suggest checking the museam of HP calculators web site..
http://www.hpmuseum.org/
More intersted in calculators but some computer links.
I found a cut-open view of my 12-C
(now I don't need to dismantle mine)

Andrew King
IIT Physics
Chicago 312-567-3021
technology is the answer,
what was the question?

Date:    Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:01:14 -0600
From:    Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject: HP Model 110

Does anyone know if a HP Model 110 computer in goodworking condition is
worth anything?

Jeff

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> > Would there be any interest in a box that would convert PS/2 keyboard
> > signals to serial data? It would allow you to grab any handy PS/2
keyboard
> >
> > If it required a wall wart power adapter?
> > If it had a built-in rechargeable battery?
> > If it used a cell phone battery?
> > If it required power from a nearby computer's PS/2 port?
> > If it required you to supply your own 9 pin to <whatever> adapter for
your
> > PDA?
>
> If all these are required then no, not at all.
>
> If it was a small box with a PS/2 port in, serial port out, and a place to
> pop in several rechargeable AA batteries, yes I would be very interested.
>

No. The list of battery types are simply choices. Pick you're favourite.

Here's my thinking on the choices. "Several" is the operative word on AA
batteries.. Keyboards are, relatively speaking, power hogs. Especially when
you turn all the LEDs on at once. If you need 6 AA's, then a built-in li-ion
(but, now you have to carry a recharger) pack will be smaller. That's why
maybe a cell phone battery would work. You have to carry a spare (and/or a
recharger) anyway, so why not double duty. Since you're taking the keyboard
from a computer, then maybe using it as the power source is not so bad. Or,
if you're near a computer with a keyboard, you'll be near a power outlet, so
just use the wall wart.

Feedback appreciated.....

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:30:21 -0800
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:40:38 -0500, Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> wrote:

> Is this just another version of xt-ce or is it a completely different
> product offering?


Hi All,

Its a different product, but no PPC version until February. (:-(


HTH



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On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:03:04 -0800, Ashwin Balan <husk469@NETZERO.COM> =
wrote:

> Is there any wireless options for the 200lx, besides a cellphone?
> Any help would be apperciated

Yea!

HP use to sell a unit called Starlink (F1028a) for around $200.00
It was a PCMCIA type II card that ran off of one AAA battery.

Also available was a unit called Zap-It by USRobotics ($300.00).
If I recall Zap-It required some type of coverage plan,
forgot what type if any was needed for the HP unit.

I'm not for sure if any of these unit are still available, but
a good place to check is MobilePlanet http://www.mplanet.com.

Ok! Just found an old number for the HP service 1-800-917-LINK.


HTH



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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:22:38 -0500
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              "Blah...Just Blah.." <matrix@SHOT.ORG>
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Subject:      Re: Wireless 200lx
Comments: To: Ashwin Balan <husk469@NETZERO.COM>
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i've used external cdpd modems (novatel sage and the sierra wireless pocket
plus) and ricochet modems without problems.. the cdpd is on the slow
side but in general has good coverage, the ricochet is speedy in comparison
but coverage is limited.

--francois


On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 10:03:04AM -0800, Ashwin Balan wrote:
> Is there any wireless options for the 200lx, besides a cellphone?
> Any help would be apperciated

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:50:58 +0200
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              Serge K <snk_by@YAHOO.COM>
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Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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Hi there!
Just wondering. The app look exactly the way I want it but:
Would it be possible to get the docs for the that app in English?
As I understood  from this guy's page he doesn't reply the e-mail in English.
Also would it be possible to make this prog use the English words in menu :-)
Serge K

At 10:44 21.12.99 -0500, you wrote:
>For the sake of anyone else who might be tempted to try this Windows program
>to open database files, use the following URL
>http://fronttom.freeservers.com/book/gdbwin/lzh/gdw090bs.lzh instead.  When
>I went to the URL DDV pointed out, it got me a version that was not the
>latest revision.



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    On a PalmPilot I run a keyboard which is called GoType! and uses no
batteries. When I am flying and I have a lot of copy to hammer in I use it
and it works very well. There is an adapter available that uses, I think,
two AA batteries and lets you use any keyboard.
    Hewlett-Packard used to produce a keyboard for the LX and it simply did
not sell. I have a vague recollection that it was a large clunky beast and
Frank Cloutier of Hewlett-Packard told me he had warehouses full of them.
    I spent a lot of time trying to get Hewlett-Packard to come to the party
on a keyboard like GoType! and they said there would be no demand. They were
very obstinate on the subject.

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:42:09 -0500
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----- Original Message -----
From: Gareth Powell <mail@gareth.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: keyboard


>     On a PalmPilot I run a keyboard which is called GoType! and uses no
> batteries. When I am flying and I have a lot of copy to hammer in I use it
> and it works very well.

Custom electronics inside the unit makes this possible, since the Palm Pilot
supplies 5V through its connector. A standard keyboard design is not going
to be so concerned about power, and the 200LX serial port does not provide
any appreciable power.

> There is an adapter available that uses, I think,
> two AA batteries and lets you use any keyboard.

I couldn't find this on the LandWare site. Do you have a pointer to this
unit?

>     Hewlett-Packard used to produce a keyboard for the LX and it simply
did
> not sell. I have a vague recollection that it was a large clunky beast and
> Frank Cloutier of Hewlett-Packard told me he had warehouses full of them.

Never saw this keyboard.

>     I spent a lot of time trying to get Hewlett-Packard to come to the
party
> on a keyboard like GoType! and they said there would be no demand. They
were
> very obstinate on the subject.
>

I don't think they ever expected that the 200LX would be someone's only
computer.

thanks for the info.
rick

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:48:26 -0500
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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              k
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I wish it was in English myself, but at least the function keys operate the
same and are labeled exactly as on the face of my 200LX.  There isn't any
documentation that I know how to read.  It must be time to get to work with
that Power Japanese software I got for last Christmas!

Alan

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:56:28 -0600
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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Rick Kozak wrote:

> I don't think they ever expected that the 200LX would be
> someone's only computer.

<grin>

"I'd like to see somebody try THAT with a windows CE machine."
                                -- Anonymous



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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:24:49 -0800
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              Glenn Kesselman <kesselma@LEGATO.COM>
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Can anyone help me move my phonebook on a 200LX to a tab delimited file for
import into a Palm?

Regards,

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:32:59 -0500
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Now that I've got 2 200LXs I need another power supply; or do I?  It
would be nice if I could run my primary LX and also my powered off LX
backup from the same power supply.  The current drain to run the backup
powered off is very low; something like 50ma or so.

What I would like is a Y splitter for my power supply.  I would plug my
power supply cable into the splitter and it would have 2 plugs so I
could connect 2 LXs.

                     +---->  >-200LX #1
                     |
12VDC ---//--->  >---+---->  >-200LX #2
                  splitter

Anyone see anything like this?  I suppose I could make one but I'm lazy
enough to want to buy one if it's well made and not too expensive.

Comments?

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:33:03 -0500
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> Does it have to be C?  I know how to do it in Lotus 123.
>
> > Can anyone send me / tell me where to find a C routine that takes a date
> > (month, day, year) and returns the day of the week (Mon / Tue, etc)? Thanks.

This is a good example why Personal Rexx is so easy:

 day_of_week = dateconv(mm'/'dd'/'yy,"USA","Weekday")

Sorry I can't help with the request for C equivalent.
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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:00:24 +0600
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On 1999-12-21 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said:
   >Leave it in. I think the HP95 runs down the batteries but not the
   >200lx.

All right.  This is good to know.

   >>  How much does use of a RAM card such as this decrease
   >>battery-life, if at all?
   >It uses a little power when it reads and more power when it writes
   >but does not decrease battery life all that much.

And how long does the average RAM card last?

   >>Net-Tamer V 1.11.2 - Registered
   >Way to go! Support shareware!

Yep.  If I use it, I try and support it!  <g>


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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:00:29 +0600
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              David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
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On 1999-12-21 Qman said:
   >> And how much did you pay for the Jornada 420, pray tell?  Curious
   >minds want
   >> to know.  <grin>
   >Got it like new for $210.00 shipped.  (:-)

Is that one of those "palmpilot" like CE models (sans keyboard)?


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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:13:06 -0500
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      CE:  HPLX-L eBay & Palm

I just tried ibrowser (thanks for the tip Qman) and it works well with Ebay.
It's a nice little careware browser and the have a version that supports
secure HTTP for $25. All this on a device that costs less than $100. (Nino
210 from onsale auction). I did use a zoom 14.4 pocket modem that cost me
$30 on ebay... oh, also about $10 for 2 9-pin serial adapters from radio
shak.

These CE machines are still not quite up there as far as utility is
concerned but they've come a long way. I'd still take an LX over the Nino
but I am impressed. The XT-CE does not work well, tho. The little Nino
screen can't fit it all in so it's very hard to see. It's like running 80
column DOS apps on the HP95LX... Why bother?

Still, all in all, it's worth the money to buy these things on closeouts.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Ball mailto:dmb10@SWBELL.NET
>Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 6:00 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: HPLX-L eBay & Palm
>
>
>On 1999-12-21 Qman said:
>   >> And how much did you pay for the Jornada 420, pray tell?  Curious
>   >minds want
>   >> to know.  <grin>
>   >Got it like new for $210.00 shipped.  (:-)
>
>Is that one of those "palmpilot" like CE models (sans keyboard)?

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:20:01 -0500
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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>
>On 1999-12-21 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said:
>   >Leave it in. I think the HP95 runs down the batteries but not the
>   >200lx.
>
>All right.  This is good to know.
>
>   >>  How much does use of a RAM card such as this decrease
>   >>battery-life, if at all?
>   >It uses a little power when it reads and more power when it writes
>   >but does not decrease battery life all that much.
>
>And how long does the average RAM card last?

There's supposed to be a limit but I have never heard of anyone that
actually wore one out. The general rules is 'Don't worry about it. By the
time it runs out it'll be obsolete'. I would say that as long as you use it
the normal way one would use it then you're okay. I wouldn't put flash card
in, say... a web server but a 200LX under normal use should last for years
and years. Also, try to buy a sandisk card. They are by far the best quality
card. Stay away from Pretec!!! I bought a 40MB one for $300 and got burned.
The thing was slow as hell and died completely after a year.


>
>   >>Net-Tamer V 1.11.2 - Registered
>   >Way to go! Support shareware!
>
>Yep.  If I use it, I try and support it!  <g>

Take it from a fellow Nettamer Registree, I'm sure Uncle Dave (Colston) is
pleased...I just wish he'd come out with a version 2 already...  Nettamer is
nice but it needs to be cleaned up a bit. Better browser and give us back
telnet capability in the palmtop version. Maybe modularise it.

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:25:03 +0600
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As I'm considering bidding on some 320LXs on Ebay, I thought about asking
the opinion of those on the list who might have owned one.  Yes, I realize
that the 320LX is a dreaded CE unit, but these units may have their uses.
Any general advice would be welcome.

Regards,

David Ball
mailto:dmb10@swbell.net


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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:59:38 +1030
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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Folks,

I'm happy to report that version 2.0 of LXTCP (LXTCP 2000 ?) has been
uploaded to my web site (http://rwhitby.hplx.net).  Both binary and
source distributions are freely available.

There are some major changes from versions 1.X, so please read the
lxtcp.doc file carefully when upgrading.  A summary of the changes
follows:

1/ LXTCP is now linked against the latest version of WatTCP.
2/ The default configuration file name has changed to "tcp.cfg".
3/ DHCP support is now compiled in (thanks to Steve Lawson), but it is
   not documented yet, so try it out at your own risk of frustration.
   I'll try to document it before the next release.
4/ The functionality of LXPOP and LXNNTP have been combined into a
   single executable called LXMTA (MTA = Mail Transport Agent).
5/ Support for IMAP has been included in LXMTA.
6/ Many configuration options have changed and new options have been
   added - read the documentation carefully so you can update your
   configuration file.
7/ LXDNS has been added to enable forward and reverse nameserver queries.

For the minor changes, please see the documentation.

For those who don't know what LXTCP is, here's an excerpt from
the documentation:

  LXTCP is a collection of freeware software programs for the
  HP200LX palmtop that provides clients (and sometimes servers)
  for various TCP/IP protocols (such as SMTP, POP, IMAP, NNTP,
  FTP, TELNET, etc). Connectivity to the corresponding TCP/IP
  protocol servers or from the corresponding TCP/IP protocol
  clients is via one of the following mechanisms:

    a) a PPP connection via a serial cable
    b) a PPP connection via a PCMCIA or external modem
    c) a direct Ethernet connection via a PCMCIA ethernet card

  At the present time, seven LXTCP programs are available.

  The LXTCPCFG program checks your configuration file, and (if
  you are using BOOTP) the response of your BOOTP server.

  The LXPING program checks your connectivity to other
  computers.

  The LXDNS program checks the response of your nameserver, and
  allows you to resolve a fully qualified domain name into an IP
  address.

  The LXMTA program allows you to transfer mail from your
  HP200LX to your SMTP server, transfer mail from your POP or
  IMAP server to your HP200LX (ready for an offline reader such
  as the Palmtop News Reader), and transfer news between your
  NNTP server and your HP200LX (ready for an offline reader
  such as the Palmtop News Reader).

  The LXFTP program is an FTP client for the HP200LX with quite
  versatile scripting capabilities.

  The LXTELNET program is a TELNET client for the HP200LX with
  multiple session capability, and also serves as an FTP server.

  The LXRSH program allows you to run commands on a remote host.


Note that the source distribution also includes a preliminary version
of an INETD implementation for the HP200LX, including support for the
"echo", "discard", "daytime", "chargen", "time" services, and a simple
virtual web server.  However, you need to compile it yourself :-)

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:43:27 -0800
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You should also consider the Casio Cassiopeia A-11 with WinCE2.0 (or WinCE1.0 if
at least 60$ less, then get the upgrade for about that much).

Philippe

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From: David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 3:25 AM
Subject: Fluff: Hp320lx


> As I'm considering bidding on some 320LXs on Ebay, I thought about asking
> the opinion of those on the list who might have owned one.  Yes, I realize
> that the 320LX is a dreaded CE unit, but these units may have their uses.
> Any general advice would be welcome.
>
> Regards,
>
> David Ball
> mailto:dmb10@swbell.net
>
>
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>
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              Cassiopeia A-11?
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Just got a reasonable deal on EBay, and I can get some extra at the same price,
please e-mail me privately if you need one.

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:15:30 -0800
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              johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM
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Subject:      Re: HP100LX broken case
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Giulio,
I have just retired my  100LX after buying a 200 on ebay
and I think Hal Goldstein and the Palmtop people are the best bet to get
advice on 'parts' and 'repair'.
Quanto costa quello?  I do not know
JohnCarlo
The 100LX  I have is fine except for a 'cracked right hinge' so it could be
good for parts...
johncarlo@mindspring.com
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From: Giulio Girolami <girolami@MCLINK.IT>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:58 AM
Subject: HP100LX broken case


> I live in Italy and I bought a 100LX 2M in New York a few years ago.
> Last September my fantastic little PC dropped from my hand; I "repaired"
and it is still working.
> Could anyone be so kind to tell me if it is possible to buy the plastic
spare parts of the top of my HP100LX? (From Italy by AMEX).
> Thanks
> Giulio Girolami
>
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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:23:26 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Wireless 200lx
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Francois,
I have just gotten a 200LX /1Mb to replace my 100 and am trying to get
wireless connection using a modem other than the hard wired Megahertz Pocket
modem...

Tell me how you are configuring the Ricochet to your LX and so on....
TIA
JohnCarlo
johncarlo@mindspring.com
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From: Blah...Just Blah.. <matrix@SHOT.ORG>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: Wireless 200lx


> i've used external cdpd modems (novatel sage and the sierra wireless
pocket
> plus) and ricochet modems without problems.. the cdpd is on the slow
> side but in general has good coverage, the ricochet is speedy in
comparison
> but coverage is limited.
>
> --francois
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 10:03:04AM -0800, Ashwin Balan wrote:
> > Is there any wireless options for the 200lx, besides a cellphone?
> > Any help would be apperciated
>
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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 02:53:38 +0000
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Longden_Loo@candle.com wrote:

> PS - I used Norton Utilities to reset the toggle from Alt-C, which =
conflicted
> with a Lotus macro, but  I'd appreciate it if anyone knows the debug =
cmds
> necessary to change offset 0x0A from 2E (Alt-C) to 19 (Alt-P).  I'd =
like to
> store that script.   (Stefan, would that be a useful addition to the =
doc?)

the simplest method is to use PE. Call "PE AUTOCAPS.COM".
Keep the TABS and select overwrite mode. Because PE starts
counting with cursor position 1 you have to move the cursor to
position 12 in the first line. There you will find the
character '.' which is the ascii code for 0x2E.

Overwrite this character with your preferred hotkey. In your
case you have to enter Alt-P as decimal value by keeping
pressed Alt-Menu and entering 25 on the NumPad. A down arrow
should appear instead of the point. Save the file and exit.

Now Alt-P should act as the AUTOCAPS hotkey.

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:12:58 +0700
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              Rachmat Irfan <irfan@KSEI.CO.ID>
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We should give Stefan big Applause for his excellent work !
AUTOCAPS 2.0 has all function I needed.

Irfan

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 21:36:40 -0500
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              "Blah...Just Blah.." <matrix@SHOT.ORG>
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Subject:      Re: Wireless 200lx
Comments: To: johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM
In-Reply-To:  <005701bf4cfd$7a9cda80$01c8cdcf@jcarlo>; from John Carlo on Wed,
              Dec 22, 1999 at 08:23:26PM -0800
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the setup of all three modems is really painless (although it helps to
have a windows machine to configure initially the cdpd ones).  To the
hplx, it looks exactly like a modem, accepting at commands et al.

for the ricochet, all you need to do is configure you're dial-up script
to use the phone number "777" instead of what you would normally dial.
the ricochet doesn't use a login/password as the modem itself
authenticates you on their network.

i've only used these with pppd/lxtcp/misc. packet driver dos software,
but i remember someone else on the list uses it with www/lx

for the cdpd modems, the dial-up scripts just use different commands

i have yet to try using a pcmcia cdpd modem, so am not sure if it will
work, however, my friends have a few different vender models i should
try out.

--francois

On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 08:23:26PM -0800, John Carlo wrote:
> Francois,
> I have just gotten a 200LX /1Mb to replace my 100 and am trying to get
> wireless connection using a modem other than the hard wired Megahertz Pocket
> modem...
>
> Tell me how you are configuring the Ricochet to your LX and so on....
> TIA
> JohnCarlo
> johncarlo@mindspring.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Blah...Just Blah.. <matrix@SHOT.ORG>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Wireless 200lx
>
>
> > i've used external cdpd modems (novatel sage and the sierra wireless
> pocket
> > plus) and ricochet modems without problems.. the cdpd is on the slow
> > side but in general has good coverage, the ricochet is speedy in
> comparison
> > but coverage is limited.
> >
> > --francois
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 10:03:04AM -0800, Ashwin Balan wrote:
> > > Is there any wireless options for the 200lx, besides a cellphone?
> > > Any help would be apperciated
> >
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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:44:31 -0800
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              "Steven (Casey) Karp" <skarp@RICOCHET.NET>
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Maybe I'm just dense, but I can't figure out how to do this one...

I've got a small database of Ebay auctions I've won which includes a date
field for the day I received the item.  I'd like to set up a subset that
would just show items that I haven't received yet.  How the heck do I set
up the subset definition to only show items for which the date field "Recd"
is blank?

I figure it's gotta take some kind of SSL statement, but everything I try
gives me an error message when I hit "OK".

        C.

--
"I think tradition is what endures.  I'm partial to the erotic like having
a rattlesnake come at us, but what endures is the flow of the river.  The
river will continue to flow as always.  That's what these dishes are."
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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:55:15 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Database help needed

Casey writes:
>
> I've got a small database of Ebay auctions I've won which includes a date
> field for the day I received the item.  I'd like to set up a subset that
> would just show items that I haven't received yet.  How the heck do I set
> up the subset definition to only show items for which the date field "Recd"
> is blank?

This isn't exactly what you are asking for, but it should do
what you want.  Put "-Recd" in the field.  The hyphen is a
logical NOT, according to the manual.

Ted

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:22:47 -0800
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              "Steven (Casey) Karp" <skarp@RICOCHET.NET>
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Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, Theodore Heise wrote at 10:55 PM
12/22/99 -0500
>Casey writes:
>>
>> I've got a small database of Ebay auctions I've won which includes a date
>> field for the day I received the item.  I'd like to set up a subset that
>> would just show items that I haven't received yet.  How the heck do I set
>> up the subset definition to only show items for which the date field "Recd"
>> is blank?
>
>This isn't exactly what you are asking for, but it should do
>what you want.  Put "-Recd" in the field.  The hyphen is a
>logical NOT, according to the manual.

Nope.  Same "Invalid Subset Definition" message.  But that got me playing
around with values in the field, and what finally worked was setting the
field to > 01/01/10.  I guess I'll have to change that date if I'm still
using the database in 2010...

For what it's worth, when I now go to edit the subset, this is translated
into the following SSL: (Recd>{01/01/10} )

Thanks!

        S.

--
"I think tradition is what endures.  I'm partial to the erotic like having
a rattlesnake come at us, but what endures is the flow of the river.  The
river will continue to flow as always.  That's what these dishes are."
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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:33:14 +1000
Reply-To:     davidb@netmedia.net.il
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: Programs that use EMS

Daniel Hertrich writes:
> I thought Turbo C 2.0 was the last version that runs on the palmtop.
> Which compiler do you use? Do you also run the GUI for this compiler or
> just the plain compiler?

I use Turbo C++ v1.0. I use the IDE (or GUI if you prefer to call it that).
I have had some cases wher I have needed EMS and it works fine. The only
problem that I have found witht the Turbo c++ IDE on the palmtop is that I
cannot use it while charging. Apparently it grabs some inerrupt by the throat
and doesnt return it properly so that the palmtop immediately hangs up.
Desipte this disadvantage I still use it a lot.


======================
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davidb@netmedia.net.il
davidb@cimatron.co.il
======================

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 23:05:05 -0600
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:44:31 -0800, "Steven (Casey) Karp" <skarp@RICOCHET.=
NET> wrote:

> I've got a small database of Ebay auctions I've won which includes a =
date
> field for the day I received the item.

I want to once again state the we need a eBay client for the LX!

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 21:07:26 -0800
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Does anyone know if eBay will be WAP compliant in the near future?

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: Database help needed


On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:44:31 -0800, "Steven (Casey) Karp" <skarp@RICOCHET.NET>
wrote:

> I've got a small database of Ebay auctions I've won which includes a date
> field for the day I received the item.

I want to once again state the we need a eBay client for the LX!

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 01:04:00 -0500
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Programming help

Hi Brian,

>Can anyone send me / tell me where to find a C routine that takes a date
>(month, day, year) and returns the day of the week (Mon / Tue, etc)?
Thanks.

Does it have to be in C?  I'm sure that I whip up a simple batch file
that could do that.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:21:57 -0800
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              neill <neill@KEYWAY.NET>
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I had a 320LX and a 360LX. Apart from memory capacity, the only real
difference was the screen-------the 360 had a far more legible screen when
backlit, under normal light I saw no difference. Both machines were pretty
slow when compared with, say, a DS 200LX.
Neill

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:30:25 -0800
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From:         Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
Subject:      Velo1 for 100lx or 200lx?
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Folks,

I have a Velo1 (WinCE 1, database, software modem, IE, etc).
That is gathering dust. Anyone have a spare 100lx or 200lx
they would trade for it?

Patrick west

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:44:45 -0800
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From:         Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
Subject:      Re: HP100LX broken case
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John Carlo wrote:
>
>
> The 100LX  I have is fine except for a 'cracked right hinge' so it could be


What type of price are you looking to get?  Ihave a 100lx
with a perfect case and a broken screen.

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 21:02:00 +1300
Reply-To:     palmtop@ihug.co.nz
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From:         John <palmtop@IHUG.CO.NZ>
Subject:      Re: Database help needed
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Hi Steven
I had the same problem with my Minox eBay database
so I added three check boxes: For "Bid", "Buy" & "Rec"
Its easy to have subsets of each now! including BUY where
REC is not ticked

Cheers
John
(nzjss)

Steven (Casey) Karp wrote:
> I've got a small database of Ebay auctions I've won which includes
> a date field for the day I received the item.  I'd like to set up a
> subset that would just show items that I haven't received yet.

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 03:29:24 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Database help needed
Comments: cc: skarp@RICOCHET.NET

   >playing around with values in the field, and what finally worked
   >was setting the field to > 01/01/10.  I guess I'll have to change
   >that date if I'm still using the database in 2010...
   >For what it's worth, when I now go to edit the subset, this is
   >translated into the following SSL: (Recd>{01/01/10} )
Message-Id: <19991223082923.SHEH1914@12.72.154.20>
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:29:23 +0000

Try this:

Recd>{1/1/2100}

I think that should sufficiently outlast Ebay, if not the LX.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 03:29:30 -0500
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: AUTOCAPS 2.0

   >We should give Stefan big Applause for his excellent work !
Message-Id: <19991223082930.SHEM1914@12.72.154.20>
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:29:30 +0000

I thought we're supposed to leave cookies and milk for Santa.

   >AUTOCAPS 2.0 has all function I needed.

I agree, it's good stuff.

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 03:29:38 -0500
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: ANN: AUTOCAPS 2.0
Comments: cc: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE

   >> necessary to change offset 0x0A from 2E (Alt-C) to 19 (Alt-P).
Message-Id: <19991223082938.SHEO1914@12.72.154.20>
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:29:38 +0000

   >the simplest method is to use PE. Call "PE AUTOCAPS.COM".

Thanks Stefan.  Unfortunately I must be the only person remaining that
doesn't use PE (no offense, Andreas).

Laust was kind enough to provide a sample debug script which I modified
slightly:

e 10b
19
w
q

The above 4 lines were entered in a text file called autocaps.dat and then
I ran debug:

        debug autocaps.com < autocaps.dat

which effected the changes to autocaps.com, replacing the x2E with x19.

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:47:00 +0100
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              Martin_Doering@MN.MAN.DE
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goe:
>What type is it?

My card is a noname one (Okano I think)=2E It was selled for photo purposes in
camaras=2E It has 8 MB and works quite well in my HPLX=2E=20=


I needed an additional adapter to the PC-Card Slot=2E

Martin

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:28:34 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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From:         Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
Subject:      Ultimate keyboard?

Read www.slashdot.org today for the ultimate keyboard...

Basically glue chips on your nails, and with the tracking electronics inside
the LX, Viola! Standard LX survival equipment will now include a bottle of
nail polish... :-)

br

Franklin

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:42:21 -0400
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              Brian.McIlvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM
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From:         Brian McIlvaine <Brian.McIlvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM>
Subject:      ccLXPOP 2.0 out in beta
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For those of you who use ccLXPOP 1.0, version 2.0 is out in beta. The major
differences between 1.0 and 2.0 are:

1. Version 2.0 is ONLY a threader, very similar to PNRTI for PNR, except that
it threads the email into ccMail compatible files. I recommend heartily Rod
Whitby's LXMTA as the transfer mechanism to get emails to / from your HPLX.

2. Version 2.0 (in conjunction with LXMTA) will receive newsgroups, and
automatically put the data in a folder named for the newsgroup, if such a
folder exists in ccMail. I built it to send Newsgroup info as well, but right
now I have not gotten that working yet.

My next "to do" is to build a method for smart routing of incoming email wrt
folders. I am interested  in what users of ccLXPOP would like to see in this
area. My initial idea is a file that contains the field to look for, the value
to search for, and the name of the folder to put it in: Sample:


From:
mygirlfriend@giggles.org
Love Letters
Subj:
Fluff
Light Reading


Etc. The test would be a simple "is the string in that field" test, and each
received email would be tested against the rules in the order in which they are
stated in the rule file - most important first.

I would appreciate any ideas you have in this area. Also, if you are interested
in testing version 2.0 Beta 1 of ccLXPOP, drop me a note and I'll send it to
you right away.

Brian

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:33:55 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Database help needed

Casey writes:
>
> Nope.  Same "Invalid Subset Definition" message.  But that got me playing
> around with values in the field, and what finally worked was setting the
> field to > 01/01/10.  I guess I'll have to change that date if I'm still
> using the database in 2010...

Oops.  I didn't read your message carefully enough and somehow
thought your field contained the text Recd if you had received the
item.  My suggestion was meant for a text field and obviously
wouldn't work for a date field.  Glad you got it figured out.

Ted

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:54:50 -0500
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Subject:      Power Consumption Tests on several HP units with several types of
              PCMCIA Cards (Memory)
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I recently acquired another HP 200 LX that I intend to get the memory
upgrade performed on. This gave me the following HPLX's to do some
testing on:

1. A standard HP 100 LX (I will be selling soon, contact me if interested)
2. A double clocked 5MB HP 200 LX (original 2MB, upgraded to 5MB)
3. A standard HP 200 LX 1Mb

I tested the above units with the following PCMCIA Cards:
1. 10Mb HP brand flashdisk (no stacker software installed)
2. 32Mb Toshiba Compact Flash card with adapter
3. 48Mb Viking ATA Flash Card

I decided to do some power consumption tests on these. I will discuss my
conclusions, then present my data, in what may be a bass ackwards method,
but if you don't want to read a long email, you can just read the
conclusions.

1. There is almost no difference in power consumption between the IR LED on
the HP 100 LX and the HP 200 LX. The difference in range must be due to
something else - quality of LED, parasitic load to reduce range, something.
This does beg the idea of what modifications could be done to use the
current the HP is supplying to the LED more effectively. Current increase
from use
of the IR LED went from 20 ma (Standby) to 60 mA (IR energized, 115200 baud
rate)

2.  The CF flash disk is the most efficient in terms of power consumption,
followed by the ATA Flash Card, followed by the HP Flash Disk. The breakdown
is as follows (these values are all in the non- doublespeeded HP 200 LX)

Continuous           CF                      VIKING ATA             HP 10 Mb
FlashDisk
READ:                  85 mA                 102 mA                   110 mA
WRITE:                 83 mA                  107 mA                   150
mA

The source codes for the programs used to force the continuous read / write
tests are available on request. There is one caveat to this comparison - in
the
double-speeded 5Mb unit both the ATA and the CF card were equally bad at
200 mA during read/write cycles. See below.

3. My double speeded HP 200 LX suffers from the large (Factor of six (6))
increase in standby current draw when that I have hypothetically linked to
PCMCIA ATA Flash Disk. I say hypothetically, as I have been unable to reduce
the current consumption, even after 24 hours with the battery terminals
shorted together and backup battery removed. I intend to try and do some
further testing on this, but I use my HPLX too much to support any longer
without it. I believe that that difference is due to one of two things:
    a. There is some sort of interaction between the ATA disk and the HPLX
that causes it never to go into "light sleep." I was trying to eliminate
this as a possible cause through the 24 discharge test that I detail above.
   b. The 4Mb upgrade I bought uses more power. I bought the upgrade several
(three?) years ago, but not from either Mack or Thaddeus (that was probably
the biggest mistake!).

Mack has previously noted that the double speed itself causes about a 15%
increase in consumption, so I have eliminated that as a possible cause. I
plan to do some further testing in this regard (maybe pulling off the 4MB
upgrade long enough to do the tests) but I have to admit that is not a top
priority right now!

This factor of six increase in power consumption is not a huge deal to me,
right now because of my usage patterns - most of the time I use my HPLX at
my desk at home (where I have an adapter) or at my desk at work (where I
also have an adapter). I did note that this was an issue a while back - I
had used a set of lithium batteries in the unit (don't remember if it was
before or after 4Mb upgrade) and they had lasted over a month. I recently
used a set up in under 6 days, but I use my HP a great deal (see comment
above about not wanting to be without it for more than a day - maybe two on
the weekends!).


Hope this is of use to you.

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:25:34 -0500
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              Victor Roberts <robertsv@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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On 17 Dec 1999, Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> wrote:

> I've got the following drives in my 200LX...
>
> A: pcmcia
> B: DOS's 2nd floppy letter (unused in LX)
> C: 32M T2T
> D: LX ROM drive
> E: ??? "Not ready reading drive E" when I try to Dir it.
> F: LX's original 2M C: drive
> G: SecureDevice encrypted drive
>
> I don't know where that E: comes from.  I don't have any ASSIGN or SUBST
> commands in use.  It exist's early in the boot because the RDSWAP.EXE
> command in CONFIG.SYS creates the F: drive because E: was already in use
> at that point.

You have a listing for E: because you have F:. I do not think
that DOS can skip a logical drive letter. But, you get an
error when you try to access E: because it does not exist.

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:06:14 -0000
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Rick

    I checked for the gizmo that lets you attach any keyboard to a PalmPilot
and it is on http://www.pfuca.com/products/hhkb/hhcindex.html.
    I have ordered one.
    The blurb runs:
    Happy Hacking Cradle $49.00. Gives you the power to type directly to
your Palmconnected organizer with any PS/2 keyboard. Realize the full
potential of your Palm organizer. Respond to your e-mail, create documents,
and use more Palm Computing platform applications.
    The standard PS/2 connector on the side of Happy Hacking Cradle unit
accepts any PS/2 keyboard, and the driver software supports both 101-key and
104-key keyboards.
     The serial port at the back of the cradle enables you to connect your
modem or other Palm Computing peripheral.   Selector switch on the side of
Happy hacking Cradle unit changes active port (keyboard or serial port).
     Compact size
    The cradle collapses to 1" x 3.5" x 4.6", (slightly larger than a deck
of playing cards) making it convenient for people on the move.
    Battery Powered
    Batteries inside the cradle allow you to type without draining power
from the batteries in your Palm connected organizer. Type as long as 500
hours on two AA batteries (depending on the power consumption of your
keyboard).

        Seems to me an ace idea. It was something like this I kept pushing
at Hewlett-Packard and they kept ducking.
        My logic is that many business people are travellers like me. We
need something to write up our notes. With a proper keyboard the 200LX
would have done that for me marvellously. As it was I had to carry my
Hewlett-Packard Omnibook 430 and mess around doing transfers using memory
cards. I never expected it to be my *only* computer. But I wanted it to be
my *only* computer when I travelled which I do extensively.
   What I now do is use a Sinclair Z80 -- probably before your time, almost
no one else has ever heard of it -- which has rubber keys and runs of four
AA batteries but has a full sized keyboard.

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Steven (Casey) Karp <skarp@RICOCHET.NET pleaded "How the heck do I set up
the subset definition to only show items for which the date field "Recd" is
blank?

Here is the relevant part (and a little bit more) of my article on SSL
tricks and traps from a past issue of PTP.

"To find items with empty date fields use the SSL code !*Date Field.

For empty number fields use the code !*Number field (i.e., NOT wildcard
field name). Note you can also use NumberField=0 but this will give you
fields that contain a 0 as well as empty fields. For empty time fields use
TimeField=":"

The use of the wildcard operator with a field name is not supposed to work,
but it does, at least for the date and number types of fields. The same
trick fails to work for time fields so we resort to looking for time fields
that do not contain a colon as in 12:34am. If you're using a time format
such as HH,MM,SS you'll have to substitute a comma in place of the colon. "

.ed.PTP

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David Becher <davidb@netmedia.net.il> said "The only problem that I have
found with the Turbo c++ IDE on the palmtop is that I cannot use it while
charging. Apparently it grabs some interrupt by the throat and doesn't
return it properly so that the palmtop immediately hangs up."

I've used the TUI for BC 2.0 on the Ptop when using batteries and when using
the adaptor. The compile and link times are a little better using the
adaptor. I never had any crashes (other than those caused by setting a
pointer to point at something I shouldn't).

Do you mean that TC 1.0 hangs when you run something like ABC/LX and tell
the computer to charge the rechargeable batteries?  I haven't tried this
lately but I don't recall hanging the computer while using BC 2.0. I never
did use EMS with the compiler. Wonder if that might be where the problem
lies.

Do you have BC 2.0. It's now free at http://community.borland.com/museum/
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>     I checked for the gizmo that lets you attach any keyboard to a
PalmPilot
> and it is on http://www.pfuca.com/products/hhkb/hhcindex.html.
>     I have ordered one.

Thanks. That's very similar to my vision of things. I'll have a look and see
if it can be "adapted".

>    What I now do is use a Sinclair Z80 -- probably before your time,
almost
> no one else has ever heard of it -- which has rubber keys and runs of four
> AA batteries but has a full sized keyboard.

I had a Sinclair just before I purchase my Acorn. My memory of the thing is
having to shut off the video to run calculation intensive code at any
reasonable speed :-)

rick

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About a year ago, I heard of development of a similar device for the
200lx.  I thought I heard about it here.  Apparently that project died???

Larry Zimmerman

On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:06:14 -0000 Gareth Powell <mail@GARETH.NET>
writes:
>Rick
>
> I checked for the gizmo that lets you attach any keyboard to a
>PalmPilot and it is on http://www.pfuca.com/products/hhkb/hhcindex.html.

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:44:23 -0700
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Greetings and Merry Holidays !!!

  What we need is for someone to write a driver so we can use those WebTV
keyboards with our 200LX - they are everywhere and would make a nice IR
connected device for our palmtops.

Happy Christmas All !!

john

Larry N Zimmerman wrote:

> About a year ago, I heard of development of a similar device for the
> 200lx.  I thought I heard about it here.  Apparently that project died???
>
> Larry Zimmerman

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I don't remember that, but what got me thinking about this was the roll up
keyboard that only has a PS/2 output.

rick

> About a year ago, I heard of development of a similar device for the
> 200lx.  I thought I heard about it here.  Apparently that project died???
>
> Larry Zimmerman
>
> On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:06:14 -0000 Gareth Powell <mail@GARETH.NET>
> writes:
> >Rick
> >
> > I checked for the gizmo that lets you attach any keyboard to a
> >PalmPilot and it is on http://www.pfuca.com/products/hhkb/hhcindex.html.
>

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I've tried to use the HP to read the IR keyboard that I have with no
success. I think there have been others who've made the attempt and failed
as well. Even if it worked, you'd still have the awkward problem of having
your keyboard pointing at the side of the 200lx. Makes the screen kinda hard
to read :-)

rick

> Greetings and Merry Holidays !!!
>
>   What we need is for someone to write a driver so we can use those WebTV
> keyboards with our 200LX - they are everywhere and would make a nice IR
> connected device for our palmtops.
>
> Happy Christmas All !!
>
> john

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:59:31 -0600
Reply-To:     Mack Baggette <mack@times2tech.com>
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> About a year ago, I heard of development of a similar device for the
> 200lx.  I thought I heard about it here.  Apparently that project died???

I was actually looking for an already built device that we could use, but
nothing reasonable existed at the time and none of them were battery
powered.

Cheers,
 Mack                            mailto:mack@times2tech.com

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:00:36 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Velo1 for 100lx or 200lx?

Yeah, If anybody wants to trade a barely used 8MB Nino 210 for a 32MB
DS200LX I'll bite. ;->

>
>Folks,
>
>I have a Velo1 (WinCE 1, database, software modem, IE, etc).
>That is gathering dust. Anyone have a spare 100lx or 200lx
>they would trade for it?
>
>Patrick west
>
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>   What we need is for someone to write a driver so we can use those WebTV
> keyboards with our 200LX - they are everywhere and would make a nice IR
> connected device for our palmtops.

I also looking into this a while back with the help of Andreas and neither
of us could get the darn things to communicate properly with the LX.  I
assumed they used some odd frequency or encoding scheme.

Cheers,
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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:02:53 -0600
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> I've tried to use the HP to read the IR keyboard that I have with no
> success. I think there have been others who've made the attempt and failed
> as well. Even if it worked, you'd still have the awkward problem of having
> your keyboard pointing at the side of the 200lx. Makes the screen kinda hard
> to read :-)

I actually found a keyboard that had 2 IR outputs at 45 degree angles and
it allowed you to have the LX above and to the left of the keyboard, but I
still couldn't get the communication stuff to give me individual codes for
every key.  You didn't have to angle the palmtop away from the keyboard in
other words.

Cheers,
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The 90 degree IR problem is minor, in my opinion.  A tiny mirror could be
glued to a small plastic sheet at 45 degrees and the sheet could sit under the
200lx, requring no mods to either the keyboard or palmtop. The character
encoding is another matter.  Perhaps it is time to research whether the WebTV
keyboard has been autopsied yet !!!

john

Mack Baggette wrote:

> > I've tried to use the HP to read the IR keyboard that I have with no
> > success. I think there have been others who've made the attempt and failed
> > as well. Even if it worked, you'd still have the awkward problem of having
> > your keyboard pointing at the side of the 200lx. Makes the screen kinda hard
> > to read :-)

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:40:45 +0000
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>     Hewlett-Packard used to produce a keyboard for the LX and it simply did
> not sell. I have a vague recollection that it was a large clunky beast and

It was made by Keytronics and I believe was a fairly normal, large
keyboard.  I called them since they are located just across the state
but there were no keyboards available.  I'm sure they wound up in a dump
somewhere.  They did not sell.

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:18:21 -0600
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On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Ed Keefe wrote:

> Here is the relevant part (and a little bit more) of my article on SSL
> tricks and traps from a past issue of PTP.
>
> "To find items with empty date fields use the SSL code !*Date Field.
>
> For empty number fields use the code !*Number field (i.e., NOT wildcard
> field name). Note you can also use NumberField=0 but this will give you
> fields that contain a 0 as well as empty fields. For empty time fields use
> TimeField=":"

I can't get this !*DateField syntax to work in a test database
I just put together.  The  !*NumberField works fine.

My time field is named Time and I get an "Invalid Subset
Definition" error when I try:

 Time=":"

The syntax:

 Time#":"

gives me the subset of all records *with* time entries, and
the syntax:

 !Time#":"

Gives me the subset of records with no time entries.

Ted

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Hi.    I have heard that many ISP's are getting incompatible with the
palmtop as far as email.
Is that correct?   Did Rod Whisby's new program fix that problem at all?

If not, could some recommend a good ISP in the USA which allows you to
dowload email directly
to the palmtop?   I have been thinking of Mind Spring, although it is one
of the pricier ones.   Any others?
I know I could try locally, but aside from national coverage, I was told
that MindSpring has no bottleneck
problems with Internet trafic, even during peak times.   Is that correct?

I have been trying to setup ccmail with palmtop.com and freeway, but with
only 9600bps speed, and only
2 free hours per month, it seems less than an ideal solution.

TIA

Domingo

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Did anyone ask the manufacturer for this information?  Just wondering.

Domingo

On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:00:44 -0600 Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
writes:
> >   What we need is for someone to write a driver so we can use those
WebTV
> > keyboards with our 200LX - they are everywhere and would make a  nice
IR
> > connected device for our palmtops.
>
> I also looking into this a while back with the help of Andreas and
neither
> of us could get the darn things to communicate properly with the LX.
I
> assumed they used some odd frequency or encoding scheme.

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:21:56 -0500
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The problem is/was that the data coming out was not encoded in any way that
would read consistently via the HP's IR serial port, regardless of the baud
rate selected.

rick

> Did anyone ask the manufacturer for this information?  Just wondering.
>
> Domingo
>

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:54:24 -0500
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              Mark Jordan <mjordan@BAAN.COM>
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I am selling some things and thought I would give the mail list first crack
at them. For each, I'll accept the best offer above the mentioned price.

- HP200LX 2M, $250 -- Used as a backup unit; only used once when my main
unit's screen pixels started to disappear. Not sure if my price is high, but
Ebay is selling them for this, and I can come down later if demand is not
present. Comes with Radio Shack AC adapter, ribbon serial cable for
connection to PC. Unit shipped without batteries.

- Practical Peripherals pocket data/fax modem, $40 -- main part of modem is
literally smaller than a pack of cigarettes. Battery pack of AA's or AC
adapter plugs into it. Modem has cable that plugs into back of PC. I will
also provide a homemade serial converter (not pretty, but it works) so modem
can be connected directly to ribbon serial cable from HP 200LX. Modem never
used except when I played with it when I first received it. Model of modem:
Practical Modem 14400FX Pocket Modem, V.32bis. Manuals and leather
case/pouch included. Sorry... unable to find a picture on the Net.

- HP Palmtop Paper, Highest Bid or the Recycling Man gets them -- Vol. 4,
Num. 6, 1995 through Vol. 7, Num. 1, 1998, inclusive... including bonus
issues in 1996 and 1997.

Please email me off the list with bids and flames. Shipping will be included
in all of the above... only in U.S.

And last but not least, Merry Christmas everyone.


> BaaN   Product Engineering Group
Mark Jordan
Sr. Software Engineer, Technical Lead
Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:27:56 -0800
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I'll take the palmtop paper, whats your asking price?

----------
> From: Mark Jordan <mjordan@BAAN.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: FS: HP 200LX 2M, Modem, and Old Issues of HP Palmtop Paper
> Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 10:54 AM
>
> I am selling some things and thought I would give the mail list first
crack
> at them. For each, I'll accept the best offer above the mentioned price.
>
> - HP200LX 2M, $250 -- Used as a backup unit; only used once when my main
> unit's screen pixels started to disappear. Not sure if my price is high,
but
> Ebay is selling them for this, and I can come down later if demand is not
> present. Comes with Radio Shack AC adapter, ribbon serial cable for
> connection to PC. Unit shipped without batteries.
>
> - Practical Peripherals pocket data/fax modem, $40 -- main part of modem
is
> literally smaller than a pack of cigarettes. Battery pack of AA's or AC
> adapter plugs into it. Modem has cable that plugs into back of PC. I will
> also provide a homemade serial converter (not pretty, but it works) so
modem
> can be connected directly to ribbon serial cable from HP 200LX. Modem
never
> used except when I played with it when I first received it. Model of
modem:
> Practical Modem 14400FX Pocket Modem, V.32bis. Manuals and leather
> case/pouch included. Sorry... unable to find a picture on the Net.
>
> - HP Palmtop Paper, Highest Bid or the Recycling Man gets them -- Vol. 4,
> Num. 6, 1995 through Vol. 7, Num. 1, 1998, inclusive... including bonus
> issues in 1996 and 1997.
>
> Please email me off the list with bids and flames. Shipping will be
included
> in all of the above... only in U.S.
>
> And last but not least, Merry Christmas everyone.
>
>
> > BaaN   Product Engineering Group
> Mark Jordan
> Sr. Software Engineer, Technical Lead
> Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA
>
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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:39:41 +0000
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I, too, found that Japanese database application quite impressive.  The
non-decipheral menus are pretty distracting.  Frankly, it probably
serves many of us right since we expect everything to be in English.

It would be nice if someone could at least post a form showing what the
drop-down menus actually say, altho, guessing probably would work.

It would be appreciated if one of our Japanese members here could
contact the programmer to help with an English menu structure.  Or maybe
get permission to patch the menu code if possible.

It appears to work just like the HP version - if you open the file, it
gets re-written with current date/time even if you don't edit anything!
(G)

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:31:18 -0800
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              Dale Gillilan <positivechanges.hypnosis@GTE.NET>
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I'm trying to use my HP 200LX for digital ham communications and need
some help.  I'm connecting it to an MFJ 1278 tnc.

I can get it to work fine with the HP's native DataComm program.
However, when I try to use other software (Baycomm 1.5 and 1.7, MFJCom,
MFJ's Multicom) the computer hangs whenever I try to send a command to
the tnc.

I need to use one of these programs, or something similar, so I can
receive Weather fax, etc.  I am on a sailboat and need this for
cruising.

I would appreciate ANY suggestions.  I am at a loss.  I know others have
gotten this combination working, so it can be done.

Thanks,
Dale

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:56:39 +0100
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 A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:
>
> I wish you all whoi celebrate Christmas a Merry Christmas.
> To all who celebrate Ramadan, a successful fast. To those
> who celebrate Kwanza, a Happy Kwanza. Hanuka has already
> passed.

Thanks for the kind wishes, Avi, and a Happy New Year for
you too. May the beginning be uneventful! :-)

>
> And to all a Happy New Year!

But what about the Chinese? Their new year is a while away :-)

Ulrich

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:26:16 -0500
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              Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM>
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 Hello,
       I have found a source for HP NetbeamIR IR <-> Ethernet
 bridges at a pretty good price, I was wondering if it might be
 possible to use such a device witn an LX?

       What the question comes down to (it seems to me) is:

       a) Can LX TCP/IP software be pointed at the IRDa port?

       b) Is the IRDa an industry standard port, or is it an
          HP proprietary design?

       c) Has anyone done any work with these inthe past?

 These units will work with most modern laptops and Linux, and
 they come with Win95 drivers (you need to configure them with
 a WIn95 PC I imagine).

 Anyone familiar with these units? I'd love to be able to do
 115K ethernet over my IRDa on my 200LX, allowing me to keep
 my CF card in my LX (and delay expensive RAM upgrades)...

 Thanks,

 Ken
 khansen@njcc.com

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 16:55:25 -0600
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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              99 11:31:18 am
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> I'm trying to use my HP 200LX for digital ham communications and need
> some help.  I'm connecting it to an MFJ 1278 tnc.
>
> I can get it to work fine with the HP's native DataComm program.
> However, when I try to use other software (Baycomm 1.5 and 1.7, MFJCom,
> MFJ's Multicom) the computer hangs whenever I try to send a command to
> the tnc.

Dale:

I'll double-check my copy of the 1278 software - I have it around here
somewhere.  It never occurred to me that it would run on the 200LX - my
experience has been limited to using the 200LX as a terminal emulator.
I *have* run the software with the miniature TNC (the one that liiks like
a gender changer).  The company escapes me right now - is that the
Baycom TNC?  So at least *one* package works with the 200LX - the one
I remember is more advacned than just a terminal emualtor, although I
think it's pretty specific to that particular TNC.  I wouldn't expect
to be able to run it with my MFJ 1278, for example.  Maybe Jeff can
pipe in and help here...  I'll reply again when I get my hands on my
MFJ software.

-Chris

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:58:48 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Exporting phonebook to tab delimited file
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> Can anyone help me move my phonebook on a 200LX to a tab
> delimited file for import into a Palm?

In phonebook, hit F5 to go to Smartclip and Define a new clip.
Hit F2 to select the first field, then hit TAB, then F2 again
and select the next field, then TAB, ....  Do not put a new-
line or TAB at the end of the clip definition.  Hit F10 to
save it, and give it a name like Tab Delimited.

Then you can do Menu-File-Print, and print to a file using
the new Smart Clip. This will be the file you want.

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:14:27 -0800
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              "Steven (Casey) Karp" <skarp@RICOCHET.NET>
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Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, Theodore Heise wrote at 12:18 PM
12/23/99 -0600
>I can't get this !*DateField syntax to work in a test database

Ditto here.

> !Time#":"
>
>Gives me the subset of records with no time entries.

But this gave me an idea.  !Recd#"/" works like a charm for my date fields.
 I've now got subsets for "Shipped, but not received", "Not shipped yet",
and "Waiting to know where to send the money"!

Thanks to all who had suggestions on this.

        C.

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Date:         Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:14:08 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Palmtop compatible USA ISP

D Dv writes:
> Hi.    I have heard that many ISP's are getting incompatible with the
> palmtop as far as email.

Can you explain this statement in more detail ?  Are you
talking about transport or content ?

> Did Rod Whisby's new program fix that problem at all?

Whitby, not Whisby - at least you didn't call me Rob

I added IMAP support, but every ISP I've seen that offers IMAP
also offers POP, so I don't think that's a differentiator.


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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:29:38 -0500
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On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:14:08 +0930 Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
writes:
> D Dv writes:
> > Hi.    I have heard that many ISP's are getting incompatible with
the
> > palmtop as far as email.
>
> Can you explain this statement in more detail ?  Are you
> talking about transport or content ?

Transport.  Maybe what I have seen has more to do with PostLx than with
Dos email in general.  If I am still unclear, I could try hunting down
old messages
from the list, though the search engine seems flaky of late.

> > Did Rod Whisby's new program fix that problem at all?
>
> Whitby, not Whisby - at least you didn't call me Rob

I had to do some last minute  Christmas shopping, so I did not
take the time to double check the name.  Sorry.  8-\

> I added IMAP support, but every ISP I've seen that offers IMAP
> also offers POP, so I don't think that's a differentiator.
>
Since I don't use Postlx, and I just recently got an external modem for
my palmtop,
I may not know the true nature of previous discussions on this matter.
Something to do with either the connection or the download from certain
ISP's which
previously worked.   Andreas and Avi had discussed this issue at some
leght
months ago, and they indicated that it was not a software problem, but an
ISP problem which
seemed to be getting more prevalent as the internet providers added more
and more support
to windows applications.   Sorry if I sound ignorant on this matter.

Domingo

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Date:         Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:01:29 +1030
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ddvteach@juno.com writes:
> Transport.  Maybe what I have seen has more to do with PostLx than
> with Dos email in general.  If I am still unclear, I could try
> hunting down old messages from the list, though the search engine
> seems flaky of late.

I've seen messages about basic connectivity to ISP (i.e. can't connect
to ISP), but none that are email-specific (i.e. none where someone
could connect, but couldn't download email for a HP-specific reason).

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:07:02 -0800
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Ulrich Boche wrote:

> > And to all a Happy New Year!
>
> But what about the Chinese? Their new year is a while away :-)

I think the Chinese New Year is sometime in February. Time
to prepare... Gong-hei fat-sai just in case! :-)

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:39:11 -0600
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              Steve Dowell <swdowell@BELLSOUTH.NET>
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Was that the MS-CHAP issue?
I think that's the reason I'm unable to connect with my work network.
(could be wrong tho)

Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>

> previously worked.   Andreas and Avi had discussed this issue at some
> length months ago, and they indicated that it was not a software problem,
but an
> ISP problem which seemed to be getting more prevalent as the internet
providers added more
> and more support to windows applications.   Sorry if I sound ignorant on
this matter.

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Subject:      Re: Fluff: New Year was:eBay & Palm

   >> > And to all a Happy New Year!
Message-Id: <19991224014637.PVD1914@12.72.227.203>
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 01:46:37 +0000

   >> But what about the Chinese? Their new year is a while away :-)

   >I think the Chinese New Year is sometime in February. Time

Correct.  Then it's the Year of the Dragon.

BTW, they're well past Y2K by now on their calendar <g>.

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> > D: LX ROM drive
> > E: ??? "Not ready reading drive E" when I try to Dir it.
> > F: LX's original 2M C: drive
>
> You have a listing for E: because you have F:. I do not think
> that DOS can skip a logical drive letter. But, you get an
> error when you try to access E: because it does not exist.
> Vic Roberts

Vic,
You have that backwards; I get the F: drive because E: already exists.
The question is WHY does E: exist at all?  I can only assume HP created
the E: drive as part of the DOS kernal because it gets created BEFORE
the config.sys is run.

The Alternate Boot options allow for NOT using any config.sys (and
autoexec.bat) while booting.  If you try this you'll find that the E:
drive has been defined (although it can't be read).  This means it is
part of the core LX rom and not something the user caused to be created.

cheers... Russ

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Hi Domingo,

> On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:14:08 +0930 Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
> writes:
> > D Dv writes:
> > > Hi.    I have heard that many ISP's are getting incompatible with
> the
> > > palmtop as far as email.
> >
> > Can you explain this statement in more detail ?  Are you
> > talking about transport or content ?
>
> Transport.  Maybe what I have seen has more to do with PostLx than with
> Dos email in general.  If I am still unclear, I could try hunting down
> old messages
> from the list, though the search engine seems flaky of late.

Not sure either what you refer to. Maybe you confuse
Post/LX which is an email clinet program with HV which is
a Web-browsing client? In the case of HV, I made statements
before that more and more of the internet is filling with
"gadgety" things like Java, Javascript, imagemaps, and so
on. These constructs are not well supported by HV - at
least by comparison to the 17Megabyte Netscape I have
installed on my Omnibook 800CT, for example :) ...

More and more Websites have documents that HV is less and
less able to "paint" on the Palmtop screen. I also made a
statement that we are not likely to change HV, for various
reasons. (HV has always been freeware, and always remain
so.)

This HV issue has nothing to do with email processing via
Post/LX. Perhaps that is the confusion?

> > I added IMAP support, but every ISP I've seen that offers IMAP
> > also offers POP, so I don't think that's a differentiator.
> >
> Since I don't use Postlx, and I just recently got an external modem for
> my palmtop,
> I may not know the true nature of previous discussions on this matter.
> Something to do with either the connection or the download from certain
> ISP's which
> previously worked.   Andreas and Avi had discussed this issue at some
> leght
> months ago, and they indicated that it was not a software problem, but an
> ISP problem which
> seemed to be getting more prevalent as the internet providers added more
> and more support
> to windows applications.   Sorry if I sound ignorant on this matter.

Ah, I think I know what you may be talking about... Let me
reconstruct three possibilities for you:

1. Fairly recently with AT&T Global - they were sending
empty pages to HV. It seems to be related to their method
of caching after all. This has nothing to do with email.

2. Much further in the past, there were 2 major threads:

  a. The usage of CHAP in the login process. Most ISPs have
now moved to using this protocol during the login. It also
happens to be a protocol that Microsoft "invented" (years
after it had been in usage on the Internet :-) ...) and
called MSCHAP. In fact, they modified MSCHAP ever so
slightly from CHAP then "invented" it! So much from Redmond
innovation :(

MSCHAP is the built-in default protocol built into Windows
DUN (Dial Up Networking) facility. There were a few cases
of ISPs who utilised some of the more obscure features of
MSCHAP in their server software, rendering their servers
relatively incompatible with the world, except when the
customer ran a full installation of Microsoft Internet
connection. This is not as prevalent a case as you may
assume.

  b. There was a discussion about how ISPs combat SPAMMERS.
Many of them have now changed their operation so their SMTP
server is not publically available, i.e. SPAMMERS cannot
use their SMTP server to send millions of junk emails.

ISPs have taken various steps:

  - they require that you login into their netwrok, i.e.
use their phone numbers. AT&T Worldnet is a prime exampe.

  - they require that email you send out carries your own
email address. There was one ISP in Hong Kong that used
that dim-witted method, causing their customers lots of
grief! BTW, Metricom (of the Ricochet fame) is another
idiot-ISP requiring such an address...) The problem is that
customers cannot reply to messages from other email
addresses they have.

  - they require that you authenticate yourself before you
can use their SMTP. That means they know who you are
because you gave them an id and password. The way they do
it is by requiring you access your POP3 first, then the
SMTP, i.e. get your email first (requiring an id and a
password). My ISP requores that, and they then let me send
over their SMTP anything I want for about 10 minutes before
the "window" closes again...

Post/LX is not in the way for the first type, or the second
type, and for the third type we offer a smple solution: Add
in POST.CFG, in the email section for the ISP requiring
POP3 access first, the following line:

POPFirst=1

which will force Post/LX to get the email first from the
POP3 server, providing id and password, then send email
through the SMTP server.

Hopefully this summarises the three topics for you. If
there was another thread on it I cannot right now recall...

We wish you all Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year!

  Avi M. D&A
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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:25:40 -0800
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I have a mint-looking, though I have never plugged it in I don't know if
it's working fine, Silicom ethernet card. Both dongles included, as is a
floppy with the 200LX drivers. Asking $25 + $5 shipping, or exchange for
something interesting !?!?
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Not HPLX related, but enough tech experts on here that I hope can point me in
the right direction.

I have a larger hard drive that I can put in my laptop, but once I do, I can't
get the laptop to recognize the CDROM so I can reload Windows 95. Does domeone
have some detalied instructions about how to go about doing this? thanks!

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:39:47 -0800
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              Dale Gillilan <positivechanges.hypnosis@GTE.NET>
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Thanks, Chris.

It may be the Baycomm tnc your thinking of.  Tigertronics makes a very
small one, as well.  I believe there are a couple of others, too.

I do have an update on the problem.  I just got a trial copy of XPCOM
downloaded and transferred to my LX.  It SEEMS to work ok.  By that, I
mean that it does communicate with the tnc, I am able to change modes,
etc.  I do receive data, but I have not been able to guess the correct
mode/speed combination yet to get anything intelligible.  At any rate,
my LX does not hang up!!!

So, it seems to be something about Baycomm and MFJCom and MultiCom.  I
would stop at this point and be happy with XPCom, but I also need the
Weather Fax and the MFJ programs provide that capability.

Let me know what you find out.

Dale
WA7PXH/MM7

Date:    Thu, 23 Dec 1999 16:55:25 -0600
From:    Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject: Re: HELP: Digital radio

> I'm trying to use my HP 200LX for digital ham communications and need
> some help.  I'm connecting it to an MFJ 1278 tnc.
>
> I can get it to work fine with the HP's native DataComm program.
> However, when I try to use other software (Baycomm 1.5 and 1.7,
MFJCom,
> MFJ's Multicom) the computer hangs whenever I try to send a command to

> the tnc.

Dale:

I'll double-check my copy of the 1278 software - I have it around here
somewhere.  It never occurred to me that it would run on the 200LX - my
experience has been limited to using the 200LX as a terminal emulator.
I *have* run the software with the miniature TNC (the one that liiks
like
a gender changer).  The company escapes me right now - is that the
Baycom TNC?  So at least *one* package works with the 200LX - the one
I remember is more advacned than just a terminal emualtor, although I
think it's pretty specific to that particular TNC.  I wouldn't expect
to be able to run it with my MFJ 1278, for example.  Maybe Jeff can
pipe in and help here...  I'll reply again when I get my hands on my
MFJ software.

-Chris

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Date:         Thu, 23 Dec 1999 21:32:10 -0700
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What brand laptop? What brand CDROM?

One suggestion is to find a Windows 98 boot disk. It tries finding a CDROM with
several drivers. If it detects yours, load the W95 CDROM "WIN95" directory on your
hard drive and run setup from your hard drive.

Bob

> I have a larger hard drive that I can put in my laptop, but once I do, I can't
> get the laptop to recognize the CDROM so I can reload Windows 95. Does domeone
> have some detalied instructions about how to go about doing this? thanks!

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|bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
|Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
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On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:01:29 +1030 Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
writes:
> ddvteach@juno.com writes:
> > Transport.  Maybe what I have seen has more to do with PostLx than
> > with Dos email in general.  If I am still unclear, I could try
> > hunting down old messages from the list, though the search engine
> > seems flaky of late.
>
> I've seen messages about basic connectivity to ISP (i.e. can't
> connect to ISP), but none that are email-specific (i.e. none where
someone
> could connect, but couldn't download email for a HP-specific  reason).

It might have been just connecting, but it had to do with the fact that
no matter
how correct the settings are, one still could not connect because of some

software isssue.  Windows programs did not seem to have a problem with
this.
Does that ring a bell? (no, is not the Compuserve issue).

Domingo

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On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:39:11 -0600 Steve Dowell <swdowell@BELLSOUTH.NET>
writes:
> Was that the MS-CHAP issue?
> I think that's the reason I'm unable to connect with my work
> network.
> (could be wrong tho)

I think that's the one.   Did you find a solution?

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On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:32:23 -0800 A Meshar <sponsor@ftel.net> writes:
>   a. The usage of CHAP in the login process. Most ISPs have
> now moved to using this protocol during the login. It also
> happens to be a protocol that Microsoft "invented" (years
> after it had been in usage on the Internet :-) ...) and
> called MSCHAP. In fact, they modified MSCHAP ever so
> slightly from CHAP then "invented" it! So much from Redmond
> innovation :(
>
> MSCHAP is the built-in default protocol built into Windows
> DUN (Dial Up Networking) facility. There were a few cases
> of ISPs who utilised some of the more obscure features of
> MSCHAP in their server software, rendering their servers
> relatively incompatible with the world, except when the
> customer ran a full installation of Microsoft Internet
> connection. This is not as prevalent a case as you may
> assume.

That sounds like the thread I recall.

> Post/LX is not in the way for the first type, or the second
> type,

No?   How about the other DOS software?

Thanks for your reply and merry Christmas.

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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:39:47 -0800, Dale Gillilan <positivechanges.hypnosi=
s@GTE.NET> wrote:

> So, it seems to be something about Baycomm and MFJCom and MultiCom.  I
> would stop at this point and be happy with XPCom, but I also need the
> Weather Fax and the MFJ programs provide that capability.

I have copied WEFAX on my LX, but that was a few years ago.  We removed =
all
the tsr's so that shouldn't be a problem. Are you using the factory =
serial
cable to connect to the TNC? If so, you have to use a null modem adapter.
Let me know if you are using a null modem adapter, if so I'll think about =
it
some more and see if we can't get it working.

Jeff

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              David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
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Subject:      Fluff: HPLX-L eBay & Palm
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At 06:13 PM 12/22/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I just tried ibrowser (thanks for the tip Qman) and it works well with Ebay.
>It's a nice little careware browser and the have a version that supports
>secure HTTP for $25. All this on a device that costs less than $100. (Nino
>210 from onsale auction). I did use a zoom 14.4 pocket modem that cost me
>$30 on ebay... oh, also about $10 for 2 9-pin serial adapters from radio
>shak.
in>

Interesting.  Is this a browser for a Windows CE unit?  How does it differ
in functionality from "Pocket IE"?  And more importantly, where do you
download it?

Thanks again,

David Ball
Regards,

David Ball
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              David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
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At 11:25 AM 12/20/99 -0800, you wrote:
>What about buying a cheap CE machine on EBay (Casio Cassiopea goe for less
than
>100$ and using the Pocket Explorer. Would that work? Yeah, this would mean
using
>the evil CE from Bill Gates, but heck, if it does the job... might be easier
>than actually developing a whole new piece of software that you have to
maintain
>later on.

This is what I've done, but I won an auction on a 320LX instead.  Now, to
see how functional Pocket Explorer actually is...


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Subject:      Re: FS: HP 200LX 2M, Modem, and Old Issues of HP Palmtop Paper
Comments: To: Mark Jordan <mjordan@BAAN.COM>
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At 01:54 PM 12/23/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>- HP Palmtop Paper, Highest Bid or the Recycling Man gets them -- Vol. 4,
>Num. 6, 1995 through Vol. 7, Num. 1, 1998, inclusive... including bonus
>issues in 1996 and 1997.

What about $20 for the lot?

Regards,

David Ball
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At 05:29 PM 12/21/99 -0800, you wrote:
>
>> And how much did you pay for the Jornada 420, pray tell?  Curious minds
want
>> to know.  <grin>
>
>
>Got it like new for $210.00 shipped.  (:-)

That sounds like a good price, but a bit more than I wanted to spend.  I
found a 320LX in my price range, which has a keyboard and will allow me to
play around with Windows CE.



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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> > Post/LX is not in the way for the first type, or the second
> > type,
>
> No?   How about the other DOS software?

I am not sure what you are asking me. What other DOS
software, and what about it? I think the implied question
which I answered was can you login if my ISP requires that
I use their number or if thy require that I use an email
address they know.

Your question is not following and I am not sure what you
mean.

  Avi

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Thanks, Jeff.

I'm using the factory cable with a null modem connector/adapter.

I've thought about removing Stacker and the ACE flash programs, but I don't know how I'd reboot
to get access to my flash again....

Dale

Jeff Johns wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:39:47 -0800, Dale Gillilan <positivechanges.hypnosis@GTE.NET> wrote:
>
> > So, it seems to be something about Baycomm and MFJCom and MultiCom.  I
> > would stop at this point and be happy with XPCom, but I also need the
> > Weather Fax and the MFJ programs provide that capability.
>
> I have copied WEFAX on my LX, but that was a few years ago.  We removed all
> the tsr's so that shouldn't be a problem. Are you using the factory serial
> cable to connect to the TNC? If so, you have to use a null modem adapter.
> Let me know if you are using a null modem adapter, if so I'll think about it
> some more and see if we can't get it working.
>
> Jeff
>
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              Etienne Lemaire <elemai2@IBM.NET>
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OK, I got an Accton card,(thanks to Mark Willis), a crossover cable, a
win95desktop.
I more or less followed R.Whitby's quick setup instructions:
-my desktop's ethernet card (normally used for my internet cable
connection ) is bound to the tcp/ip, ipx/spx and netbeui protocols.
-I extracted the lxmnc files on my desktop, moved them via the connectivity
pack to c:\net on the lx
-rebooted desktop
-ran net-up.bat script
I tried various commands(on lx and desktop)
 but no chance to see the other side's drives .

What am I missing? (Possibly the obvious:e.g.
 I first ran net-up.bat, net share
etc... from the c: prompt i.o. c:\net)
My only config.sys file is the one on d:
The"link" led on the Accton cable is on when the palmtop is on
The"tx/rx" blinks when the desktop boots up, and at intervals otherwise
Every now and then, I have a card battery low message
What should I do next?

TIA

Etienne Lemaire

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Date:         Fri, 24 Dec 1999 02:38:18 -0500
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Thanks for developing and sharing such an incredibly useful TSR that is
so tiny! :-)  I've even placed it permanently in the autoexec.bat files
on my Windoze 95 desktops for when I'm working in DOS windows.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Hi, HP Listers

I just joined this list a few days ago and, as this is my first post, I'll
quickly introduce myself. I live in Switzerland, work in architecture/
engineering/planning and am often between USA and Far East. I read the
November archives to get up to speed. I didn't want to download the
individual Dec. digests so please forgive any inadvertent repetitiveness (or
lack of knowledge).

I'm a Mac power user but also work with PCs (which is what most of my
colleagues work with). Some years back I ditched my Psion 3 for a 3a until I
dropped it. Although I had a very heavy investment in proprietary Psion
peripherals, I opted to replace it with a HP200lx 2mb and soon bought a
backup 1mb unit, flash cards etc. and never regretted it. It always annoyed
me that the Psion never accepted standard PCMCIA cards and a modem still is
a clumsy external device, even with the latest 5mx. Recently my 2mb unit LCD
screen has a problem so I started looking over everything again. Even though
the new Psion 5mx Pro has 24mb ram and uses CF, and there were all these
Palm type and CE devices, I wasn't really convinced by any of them. All the
reasons ever voiced on this list qualify as mine too!

Personally the great thing about the HPLX is its power, versatility and form
factor. The instant on databases, note-taking and agenda are superb for my
needs. The sheer peace of mind in carrying a lot of files/docs that I might
need is also very reassuring when travelling. of Anything bigger than my
jacket pocket and I go straight to at least a subnotebook. The Win to WinCE
conversion inconvenience and form factor are not for me. Probably the
"geekiness" of DOS has most prevented mainstream users from adopting the
HPLX.

However, after several years of comfortable complacency I was shocked to
learn that the HP200LX had been discontinued. Further considering that I'm
trying to get my 15 year old daughter into serious computing (it seems the
tough Swiss gymnasiums (=U.S. high school) don't offer much computing), I've
lately taken a renewed interest in the HP as I also want to give her one.
She needs a scientific calculator, note taking, agenda so I'm bribing her
with some games in one package. Now, not meaning to (re)start several
threads, my various questions are:

--Are MaxDOS and HDM suitable/sufficient to be a substitute for Super
Carousel or just for pure DOS environment apps?
--Is Super Carousel more useful for keeping a lot of built-in apps open?

--What is the consensus preferred/recommended email read/write/send app?
(web surfing is not too important, and if by wireless, far too costly here)
--is Accis 4.0 worth the upgrade? I never used my 3.0 and bought it just
before Educalc went out of biz.
--or should I be using WWW-LX?

--Does a double speed upgrade cause any screen legibility problems?
(this seemed to be occasionally the case in a November thread)
--since I'm not USA based and inter-border transactions in Europe are still
a major hassle, is a double speed upgrade a DIY operation or better to send
it to Thaddeus when I'm stateside (but I need my PB/DB)?
--are there any compatibility/timing problems with a DS upgrade on any apps?
--any cons to the known pros of DS/ram upgrades?

--on my main HP200LX the screen has a vertical line about 3mm from the left
edge. If I massage or bend the screen slightly, it goes away. But sometimes
the whole screen gets erratic and shows a heavy pattern of randomly moving
black lines (almost as if it was an electrical disturbance). It's enough of
a problem that I don't use it any more. I'm fairly handy and was wondering
if HP listers would think this is more of a screen problem or a screen cable
problem? I read a suggestion on cleaning the cable and that apparently
corrected his screen problem? Anyway, before I dive in, a little guidance
would be most appreciated.

--finally who's a good source for rear battery covers?

Best wishes to everyone for the holidays! I'm sure you all have much better
things to do than answer these basic "passive hibernating LX user"
questions. Thanks for any enlightenment.

--
Sidney Ho
skyho@compuserve.com

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Date:         Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:22:07 +0100
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On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Andrew King <kinga@IIT.EDU> wrote:

> I have an 80 meg Sandisk CF card as the C: drive in my Omnobook 425.
> I tried it in my HP200 and it came right up as A: drive.
> I'm using a Sandisk brand CF-typeII adaptor but I can't imagine a Viking
> brand adaptor wouldn't work as well.

I just signed on to the list so, despite first reviewing all of November's
posts (556 Word letter sized pages :-), just to get reasonably up to speed),
please excuse any repetitive questions and ignorance.

Do CF w/Type II adapters definitively work in a HP200lx? Are there any
special installations or drivers required? Which are HP "preferred" CF card
suppliers, apart from Sandisk (just so I have more options)? Are there any
CF cards/adapters that do not work or lack reliability?

Thanks for any information.

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Date:         Fri, 24 Dec 1999 08:01:13 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Fri, 24 Dec 1999 09:27:09 -0500 (EST)

04h07m05s ago ...
On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, Sidney Ho wrote:

> I just joined this list a few days ago and, as this is my first post,

Welcome to the list!

> --Are MaxDOS and HDM suitable/sufficient to be a substitute for Super
> Carousel or just for pure DOS environment apps?
> --Is Super Carousel more useful for keeping a lot of built-in apps =
open?

MaxDOS and HDM are both for DOS apps only.  I use X-Finder and MaxDOS
on my 200LX.  Don't have SSC, so can't answer from experience - but
from what I understand it can make it much easier to switch between DOS
sessions and System Manager sessions.

> --What is the consensus preferred/recommended email read/write/send =
app?
> (web surfing is not too important, and if by wireless, far too costly =
here)
> --is Accis 4.0 worth the upgrade? I never used my 3.0 and bought it =
just
> before Educalc went out of biz.
> --or should I be using WWW-LX?

Hmmm - there are way too many good options available for there to be a
consensus  8-)   I use WWW/LX with Post/LX, and have for years.  It's a
great program.  I've also tried Goin' Postal and found it to work very
well, but saw no particular reason to switch from Post/LX.

> --Does a double speed upgrade cause any screen legibility problems?

Only before the double-speed drivers load, and only on some machines.
Mine is readable, but shifted to the right slightly before the drivers
load.

> --are there any compatibility/timing problems with a DS upgrade on any =
apps?
> --any cons to the known pros of DS/ram upgrades?

Works for everything I've tried.  The only "con" - and it's a VERY
small one is slightly reduced battery life (about 10-15% less).


HTH

Happy Holidays.

Peniel
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Date:         Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:53:15 -0500
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Subject:      Re: AUTOCAPS 2.0
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Irfan wrote:

> We should give Stefan big Applause for his excellent work !
> AUTOCAPS 2.0 has all function I needed.
>
> Irfan
>

For us who haven't tried this program,what is it?

Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Do LX owners have to worry about any 2000failure?

No upgrade of the BIOS is needed?


Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Date:         Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:44:40 -0500
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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>
> Hi, HP Listers
>
> I just joined this list a few days ago and, as this is my first post, I'll
> quickly introduce myself. I live in Switzerland, work in architecture/
> engineering/planning and am often between USA and Far East. I read the
> November archives to get up to speed. I didn't want to download the
> individual Dec. digests so please forgive any inadvertent repetitiveness (or
> lack of knowledge).
>
> I'm a Mac power user but also work with PCs (which is what most of my
> colleagues work with). Some years back I ditched my Psion 3 for a 3a until I
> dropped it. Although I had a very heavy investment in proprietary Psion
> peripherals, I opted to replace it with a HP200lx 2mb and soon bought a
> backup 1mb unit, flash cards etc. and never regretted it. It always annoyed
> me that the Psion never accepted standard PCMCIA cards and a modem still is
> a clumsy external device, even with the latest 5mx. Recently my 2mb unit LCD
> screen has a problem so I started looking over everything again. Even though
> the new Psion 5mx Pro has 24mb ram and uses CF, and there were all these
> Palm type and CE devices, I wasn't really convinced by any of them. All the
> reasons ever voiced on this list qualify as mine too!
>
> Personally the great thing about the HPLX is its power, versatility and form
> factor. The instant on databases, note-taking and agenda are superb for my
> needs. The sheer peace of mind in carrying a lot of files/docs that I might
> need is also very reassuring when travelling. of Anything bigger than my
> jacket pocket and I go straight to at least a subnotebook. The Win to WinCE
> conversion inconvenience and form factor are not for me. Probably the
> "geekiness" of DOS has most prevented mainstream users from adopting the
> HPLX.
>
> However, after several years of comfortable complacency I was shocked to
> learn that the HP200LX had been discontinued. Further considering that I'm
> trying to get my 15 year old daughter into serious computing (it seems the
> tough Swiss gymnasiums (=U.S. high school) don't offer much computing), I've
> lately taken a renewed interest in the HP as I also want to give her one.
> She needs a scientific calculator, note taking, agenda so I'm bribing her
> with some games in one package. Now, not meaning to (re)start several
> threads, my various questions are:
>
> --Are MaxDOS and HDM suitable/sufficient to be a substitute for Super
> Carousel or just for pure DOS environment apps?
> --Is Super Carousel more useful for keeping a lot of built-in apps open?
>
> --What is the consensus preferred/recommended email read/write/send app?
> (web surfing is not too important, and if by wireless, far too costly here)
> --is Accis 4.0 worth the upgrade? I never used my 3.0 and bought it just
> before Educalc went out of biz.
> --or should I be using WWW-LX?
>
> --Does a double speed upgrade cause any screen legibility problems?
> (this seemed to be occasionally the case in a November thread)
> --since I'm not USA based and inter-border transactions in Europe are still
> a major hassle, is a double speed upgrade a DIY operation or better to send
> it to Thaddeus when I'm stateside (but I need my PB/DB)?
> --are there any compatibility/timing problems with a DS upgrade on any apps?
> --any cons to the known pros of DS/ram upgrades?
>
> --on my main HP200LX the screen has a vertical line about 3mm from the left
> edge. If I massage or bend the screen slightly, it goes away. But sometimes
> the whole screen gets erratic and shows a heavy pattern of randomly moving
> black lines (almost as if it was an electrical disturbance). It's enough of
> a problem that I don't use it any more. I'm fairly handy and was wondering
> if HP listers would think this is more of a screen problem or a screen cable
> problem? I read a suggestion on cleaning the cable and that apparently
> corrected his screen problem? Anyway, before I dive in, a little guidance
> would be most appreciated.
>
> --finally who's a good source for rear battery covers?
>
> Best wishes to everyone for the holidays! I'm sure you all have much better
> things to do than answer these basic "passive hibernating LX user"
> questions. Thanks for any enlightenment.
>
> --
> Sidney Ho
> skyho@compuserve.com
>
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>

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Sidney,

> I just joined this list a few days ago and, as this is my first post, I'll
> quickly introduce myself.

Welcome to the list.

> --Are MaxDOS and HDM suitable/sufficient to be a substitute for Super
> Carousel or just for pure DOS environment apps?
> --Is Super Carousel more useful for keeping a lot of built-in apps open?

If you are a power user I strongly recommend speed & memory upgrade and
Software Carousel. It's worth every $$.

> --What is the consensus preferred/recommended email read/write/send app?
> (web surfing is not too important, and if by wireless, far too costly here)

I use WWW/LX which supports connection to the web via IrdA - which is very
convenient for downloading mail and newsgroups when travelling. Don't use it
for browsing either.

> --is Accis 4.0 worth the upgrade? I never used my 3.0 and bought it just
> before Educalc went out of biz.

If you use CSi to connect to the web and your mailbox only than I'd suggest to
use WWW/LX. If you are heavily involved in CSi forums than you might need
acCIS. BTW : the HPHAND forum (our former homebase) has been moved to PALMTOP
forum.

> --or should I be using WWW-LX?

It's what I would recommend.

> --Does a double speed upgrade cause any screen legibility problems?
> (this seemed to be occasionally the case in a November thread)

not at all - only when the DS drivers are missing or not loaded.

> --since I'm not USA based and inter-border transactions in Europe are still
> a major hassle, is a double speed upgrade a DIY operation or better to send
> it to Thaddeus when I'm stateside (but I need my PB/DB)?

Tom Rundel at www.rundel-d.com does all service and sells the software. He is
located in Stuttgart area.

> --finally who's a good source for rear battery covers?

Tom Rundel again.



HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:10:54 -0500
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Oh well.   I quoted what you said about CHAP, said that was it, then
reacted surprised to your saying that
> > > Post/LX is not in the way for the first type, or the second type,

The second type being CHAP, right?

> > No?   How about the other DOS software?
> I am not sure what you are asking me. What other DOS software,

This means the other Internet DOS software normally discussed in this
palmtop list (LXPOP, CCLXPOP,  ccmail, pine, Steve Lawson's program,
etc.)
This being a list, anyone can answer this part of the question.

> and what about it?

What you said about CHAP.

> I think the implied question
> which I answered was can you login if my ISP requires that
> I use their number or if thy require that I use an email
> address they know.

That was not the part of your message I quoted.

> Your question is not following and I am not sure what you mean.

You offered three options, I selected the second one and quoted it fully
If I am that confusing, don't worry about it.

Merry Chrismas.

Domingo

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Date:         Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:25:05 -0600
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<
--Are MaxDOS and HDM suitable/sufficient to be a substitute for Super
Carousel or just for pure DOS environment apps?>>

First, Super Software Carousel is Software Carousel pre-configured with lots
of freeware and shareware set up and ready to go using HDM as a menu
program.

It is hard to answer your question in the abstract. However, if you have a
number of DOS apps that you use fairly often, I recommend Software Carousel.
(Since my company exclusively distributes SC and SSC, I am not exactly
unbiased<g>.  But I think others will concur.)


<--Is Super Carousel more useful for keeping a lot of built-in apps open?>

Yes, if you open more than one System Manager session -- so you could say
have a large 1-2-3 spreadsheet open in one session, and your Phone and Appt
in another.

Unfortunately, others will have to answer follow-up questions as it is
likely I'll be offline until Jan 10.

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Date:         Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:32:04 -0500
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: AUTOCAPS 2.0
Comments: cc: nxw988e@TNINET.SE

   >> AUTOCAPS 2.0 has all function I needed.
Message-Id: <19991224173204.GBNR1914@12.72.155.216>
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 17:32:04 +0000

   >For us who haven't tried this program,what is it?

A 912 byte TSR that enhances typing on the LX by automatically capitalizing
the first words of sentences and on any character key that's depressed
twice in rapid succession.

The TSR can be toggled off if it gets in the way, and the time between
keystrokes on a double-clicked shift is adjustable.

Basically lessens your dependency on the shift key, which has always been a
nuisance to me with one-handed typing (ie, while standing).

If you search the archives for AUTOCAPS, you should be able to find the
download site (which I don't recall myself).

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:24:59 -0800
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              Michael McCann <michael@SPORTSFUNDS.COM>
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Neill,

I will by your ethernet card. Tell me where to send the check. Thanks.

Michael McCann

-----Original Message-----
From: neill <neill@KEYWAY.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 8:23 PM
Subject: Silicom ethernet card


>I have a mint-looking, though I have never plugged it in I don't know if
>it's working fine, Silicom ethernet card. Both dongles included, as is a
>floppy with the 200LX drivers. Asking $25 + $5 shipping, or exchange for
>something interesting !?!?
>Please reply off-list, to neill@keyway.net
>
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>

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Date:         Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:56:41 -0800
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Folks,

I fried a motherboard and picked up a replacement last week.
After transfering drives, cards and ram etc I noticed the
mother board has IR pins on it. In the CMOS setup there are
several options for the IR including HPSIR. So I assume I
can hook it up. So what type of connector do I need to buy
use the on board IR?

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Date:         Fri, 24 Dec 1999 13:02:37 -0600
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Sidney Ho wrote:
>--on my main HP200LX the screen has a vertical line about 3mm from the left
>edge. If I massage or bend the screen slightly, it goes away. But sometimes
>the whole screen gets erratic and shows a heavy pattern of randomly moving
>black lines (almost as if it was an electrical disturbance). It's enough of
>a problem that I don't use it any more. I'm fairly handy and was wondering
>if HP listers would think this is more of a screen problem or a screen cable
>problem? I read a suggestion on cleaning the cable and that apparently
>corrected his screen problem? Anyway, before I dive in, a little guidance
>would be most appreciated.

This is the classic symptom of the hinge-crack problem. As I
understand it, the friction to keep the screen from flopping freely is
near the right side of the hinge. Repeated opening and closing of the
display fatigues the plastic on that side, and a crack will develop
there, visible on top of the unit when the display is closed. When
this happens, it stresses the solder connections which connect the
display to the board, and some vertical columns of pixels on the left
side of the display start to go out.

Thaddeus in the US fixes this. Mine started missing four or five pixel
columns, then one day a small drop onto carpet caused the display to
go completely out. After I sent it to Thaddeus, it came back with the
display fixed, and with a new top cover with no crack, plus the latch
to keep the cover closed had been fixed.

>Best wishes to everyone for the holidays! I'm sure you all have much better
>things to do than answer these basic "passive hibernating LX user"
>questions.

Not really.

--
Curtis Cameron
WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724

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Date:         Fri, 24 Dec 1999 14:15:30 -0600
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Could one our the resident icon artists on the list design and make me a
eBay icon. I'm good at doing a lot of things, but designing icons isn't
something I have been able to master. Thanks in advance!

Jeff

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IF all you want is email access, why not pay for the palmtop fee
($60), then look into getting a low-cost calling card, as low as
7 - 10 cents/minute, with minor fees for payphone use (30 to
50 cents/call).

Once you make the initial purchase of access to the dial-in
cc:Mail server, you can download a lot of mail for $20/month
(est. 200 minutes at 10 cents/minute), and if you find another
ISP you like better, you can always simply stop calling the
cc:Mail server!

HTH,

Ken
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On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:53:15 -0500, Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE> =
wrote:

> Irfan wrote:
>
> > We should give Stefan big Applause for his excellent work !
> > AUTOCAPS 2.0 has all function I needed.
>
> For us who haven't tried this program,what is it?


Hi Lars & All,

First of all, Happy Holidays!

<snip>

AUTOCAPS is a TSR to speed up typing of capital letters on a
keyboard. It automatically capitalizes the first letter of a
sentence. In addition, double click of a character at the
beginning of any word also capitalizes the beginning of this
word. It works with national characters and also runs on
desktops. It uses about 900 bytes of memory.


HTH

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On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:25:44 -0600, David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET> wrote:

> At 06:13 PM 12/22/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >I just tried ibrowser (thanks for the tip Qman) and it works well with =
Ebay.
> >It's a nice little careware browser and the have a version that =
supports
> >secure HTTP for $25. All this on a device that costs less than $100. =
(Nino
> >210 from onsale auction). I did use a zoom 14.4 pocket modem that cost =
me
> >$30 on ebay... oh, also about $10 for 2 9-pin serial adapters from =
radio
> >shak.
> in>
>
> Interesting.  Is this a browser for a Windows CE unit?  How does it =
differ
> in functionality from "Pocket IE"?  And more importantly, where do you
> download it?


Hi David Ball,

To answer you question,
MS choose not to include Pocket IE and other standard HPC apps on the
Palm-Sized PCs.

So iBrowser an others where developed to fulfill this need.

Palm-Sized PCs Browsers

iBrowser (freeware)
http://www.foliage.com/ce/ibrowser/

ccBrowse (freeware)
http://www.csq.cc/

PalmBrowser ($24.95)
http://www.conduits.com/ce



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On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:32:48 -0600, David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET> wrote:

> At 05:29 PM 12/21/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> >> And how much did you pay for the Jornada 420, pray tell?
> >> Curious minds want
> >> to know.  <grin>
> >
> >
> >Got it like new for $210.00 shipped.  (:-)
>
> That sounds like a good price, but a bit more than I wanted to spend.  =
I
> found a 320LX in my price range, which has a keyboard and will allow me =
to
> play around with Windows CE.


Hi David B,

Actually I sold my 360LX and bought the Jornada 420.

What sold me on the 420 was the size of the unit in total, its about
1-2 inches shorter than 200LX. Ok, maybe the color had a little to do
with.

Anyway the 320LX is a great choice for a WinCE newbie, have fun. (:-)

Note: a 360lx is basically a 320lx but with WinCE 2.0, more ram,
and white backlighting.

BTW: For me its works like this, 200LX by day and Jornada by night. (:-)
Why? Hint: Backlighting!

Now if I could get David S. to trade me his 32MB, backlit 200LX. for
my 200lX and Jornada 420. That would fix it all.

How about it, buddy...old pal..... (:-)


Happy Holidays everybody!


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Is there a way to use a database file and have some of the information =
from
one of the database records automatically entered into a form letter =
using
Memo?

Jeff

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> Sidney Ho wrote:
> >--on my main HP200LX the screen has a vertical line about 3mm from the =
left
> >edge. If I massage or bend the screen slightly, it goes away.


I got away with doing his for about 3months on my spare unit.
Then one day crunch, you know the rest of the store. (:-(



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On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Is there a way to use a database file and have some of the information
> from one of the database records automatically entered into a form
> letter using Memo?

I don't think the built-in apps have a "Merge letter" function like that.
The closest you'll get, probably, is to use something like WordPerfect and
import the data in comma-delimited format and then merge from within WP.

Of course, it would be great if I'm wrong...

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              "Edward J. Morgan" <Lungs@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Fri, 24 Dec 1999 07:48:24 -1000 (HST)

 >  > --Are MaxDOS and
HDM suitable/sufficient to be a substitute for Super >
Carousel or just for pure DOS environment apps? > --Is Super
Carousel more useful for keeping a lot of built-in apps open?

Hi:

I originally owned a Sharp Wizzard years ago I got in Hong Kong
and loved it.  It wore out and I "lucked out" and got a
HP200LX from Educalc years ago.

I now have two units, both HP200/LX double speed with 64 MB
Memory.

I also have a nice desktop with lots of bells and whistles and
just ordered a new IBM 600x notebook.

However I use the HP200/LX now and will continue to use it 90%
for email and data keeping etc.

I do not have Super Carousel but do use HDM and MaxDOS.

I thus cannot comment on the one, but the other works 100% fine
for me.

I have **lots** of applications loaded and HDM works fine.  No
problems.  I only keep one app open at a time and cannot comment
on keeping several apps open at the same time as I have no need
to.



>  > --What is the consensus preferred/recommended email
read/write/send app? > (web surfing is not too important, and
if by wireless, far too costly here) > --is Accis 4.0 worth
the upgrade? I never used my 3.0 and bought it just > before
Educalc went out of biz. > --or should I be using WWW-LX? >


I have both acCIS4 and WWWLX/POST/LX.

AcCIS4 is most useful if you access the forums on Compuserve.
If you want power and email capabilities, WWW/LX is the better.
 Easier address books, better functionality with the HP200/LX.

Both work 100% fine, but I use acCIS4 for Compuserve forums.
If I only want email I use WWW/LX.

I have never used acCIS 3.0


> --Does a double speed upgrade cause any screen legibility
problems? > (this seemed to be occasionally the case in a
November thread) > --since I'm not USA based and inter-border
transactions in Europe are still > a major hassle, is a double
speed upgrade a DIY operation or better to send > it to
Thaddeus when I'm stateside (but I need my PB/DB)? > --are
there any compatibility/timing problems with a DS upgrade on
any apps? > --any cons to the known pros of DS/ram upgrades?



No problems at all.  Only benefits!!!


>  > --on my main HP200LX the screen has a vertical line about
3mm from the left > edge. If I massage or bend the screen
slightly, it goes away. But sometimes > the whole screen gets
erratic and shows a heavy pattern of randomly moving > black
lines (almost as if it was an electrical disturbance). It's
enough of > a problem that I don't use it any more. I'm fairly
handy and was wondering > if HP listers would think this is
more of a screen problem or a screen cable > problem? I read a
suggestion on cleaning the cable and that apparently >
corrected his screen problem? Anyway, before I dive in, a
little guidance > would be most appreciated. >  >

Sorry, no experience on this.

 --finally
who's a good source for rear battery covers? >

Good question.  It used to be HP.  Now who knows.  Likely
someone else will comment.

I am sending this on WWW/LX..POST/LX and sitting on the beach
at  8:02:49 am on an absolutely beautiful morning on a beach
with noone to be seen.  Only with the HP200/LX could I do this
easily.

Hope this helps.  You will not go wrong with the memory
upgrades or the double speed, and also not go wrong with using
only HDM/MaxDOS.

Aloha, Ed Morgan  Honolulu, Hawaii Lungs@ATTGlobal.Net

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> Thanks, Jeff.
>
> I'm using the factory cable with a null modem connector/adapter.
>
> I've thought about removing Stacker and the ACE flash programs, but I don't know how I'd reboot
> to get access to my flash again....

I have not really followed the thread in detail but there is the issue
of sysmgr interfering with serial port activities when in dos.  There
is a "polling" or some other action that occurs on a very regular
interval where the sysmgr checks for data on the serial port.  It can
interfere with dos communications programs.  There are ways of locking
the port or terminating sysmgr before running such software in dos.

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Quinton Jones Jr wrote:
>
> Note: a 360lx is basically a 320lx but with WinCE 2.0, more ram,
> and white backlighting.

The 360LX has 16 shade greyscale, the 320lX only has 4 shade greyscale
-- a big difference in readability.

David, WA7ZYQ

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This list has been a daily part of my life for the past year, and I just
want to wish everyone here the best for the holiday season and for the
coming new year.

Thanks to everyone for making this list a lively, interesting, informative,
and entertaining place to visit each day.

Steve

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At 02:38 AM 12/24/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Thanks for developing and sharing such an incredibly useful TSR that is
>so tiny! :-)  I've even placed it permanently in the autoexec.bat files
>on my Windoze 95 desktops for when I'm working in DOS windows.

Indeed!  Now, is there any way for this utility to work in Windows95?  It
is an incredibly useful utility for working in DOS.

Regards,

David Ball
Regards,

David Ball
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Hello Quinton,

The 420 sounds like a great unit...but if I'm not mistaken, it's
keyboardless.  For me, a keyboard is a necessity.

Good luck on getting someone to trade away a backlight 200LX--that is the
best of both worlds!

Regards,

David Ball



At 01:01 PM 12/24/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi David B,
>
>Actually I sold my 360LX and bought the Jornada 420.
>
>What sold me on the 420 was the size of the unit in total, its about
>1-2 inches shorter than 200LX. Ok, maybe the color had a little to do
>with.
>
>Anyway the 320LX is a great choice for a WinCE newbie, have fun. (:-)
>
>Note: a 360lx is basically a 320lx but with WinCE 2.0, more ram,
>and white backlighting.
>
>BTW: For me its works like this, 200LX by day and Jornada by night. (:-)
>Why? Hint: Backlighting!
>
>Now if I could get David S. to trade me his 32MB, backlit 200LX. for
>my 200lX and Jornada 420. That would fix it all.
>
>How about it, buddy...old pal..... (:-)

Regards,

David Ball
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I see...so Pocket IE is included on the 320LX, which is an HPC versus a
Palm-sized unit...which is most likely keyboardless.  Is that correct?

Thanks for your explanation.




At 01:01 PM 12/24/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi David Ball,
>
>To answer you question,
>MS choose not to include Pocket IE and other standard HPC apps on the
>Palm-Sized PCs.
>
>So iBrowser an others where developed to fulfill this need.
>
>Palm-Sized PCs Browsers
>
>iBrowser (freeware)
>http://www.foliage.com/ce/ibrowser/
>
>ccBrowse (freeware)
>http://www.csq.cc/
>
>PalmBrowser ($24.95)
>http://www.conduits.com/ce

Regards,

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Ho Ho Ho

so does 96 MB sandisk and simple.....



> > I have an 80 meg Sandisk CF card as the C: drive in my
> Omnobook 425.
> > I tried it in my HP200 and it came right up as A: drive.
> > I'm using a Sandisk brand CF-typeII adaptor but I can't
> imagine a Viking
> > brand adaptor wouldn't work as well.
>
> I just signed on to the list so, despite first reviewing all
> of November's
> posts (556 Word letter sized pages :-), just to get reasonably
> up to speed),
> please excuse any repetitive questions and ignorance.
>
> Do CF w/Type II adapters definitively work in a HP200lx? Are
> there any
> special installations or drivers required? Which are HP
> "preferred" CF card
> suppliers, apart from Sandisk (just so I have more options)?
> Are there any
> CF cards/adapters that do not work or lack reliability?
>
> Thanks for any information.
>



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Steve,

> ...I just want to wish everyone here the best for the holiday season and
for > the coming new year.

And to you as well,

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Subject:      Re: Icon Needed/Wanted
Comments: cc: jeffj@SCOTT.NET

   >Could one our the resident icon artists on the list design and make
   >me a eBay icon. I'm good at doing a lot of things, but designing
   >icons isn't something I have been able to master. Thanks in advance!
Message-Id: <19991225050627.KOHR1914@12.72.154.209>
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 05:06:27 +0000

I like that. Chasing down icon artists, instead of just con artists.

Happy holidays, Jeff and everyone.

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Subject:      Re: Database and Form Letter
Comments: cc: jeffj@SCOTT.NET

   >Is there a way to use a database file and have some of the
   >information from one of the database records automatically entered into
   >a form letter using Memo?
Message-Id: <19991225050642.KOIK1914@12.72.154.209>
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 05:06:42 +0000

Not that I know of.  This was a widely used feature of database packages
called mail-merge, but I've never seen its application on an LX DB.

Might be that you'll have to export the DB to a desktop package, or to
Wordperfect (as already suggested), and use the mail-merge feature there.

- Longden

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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Rick,

> I've tried to use the HP to read the IR keyboard that I have with no
> success. I think there have been others who've made the attempt and failed

Did you receive _nothing_ or just garbage? What app did you use to make
the received characters visible?

> as well. Even if it worked, you'd still have the awkward problem of having
> your keyboard pointing at the side of the 200lx. Makes the screen kinda hard
> to read :-)

a little mirror would solve this problem.

GTX
daniel

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ian Butler wrote:
>
> On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Dean L. wrote:
> > <snipped>
> And anyway, doesn't starting a car induce a huge voltage drop, not a spike,
> when the starter kicks in and draws several hundred amps from the battery?
>
> ian Butler / ian@hplx.net
> http://peace.hplx.net/

Car electronics are "interesting".  You get spikes of up to several
hundred volts, both positive AND negative, quite often.  When you turn
the headlights on you get a dropout;  If you then turn them off while
the alternator's charging the battery, all that sudden excess of
generated power pushes the car system's voltage way up temporarily.

Not too hard to fix this problem (an inductor, resistor, capacitor
filter with a Zener-type "TVS" protection device will handle this,
fairly readily.)  A resistor like 100 ohms is too large, you want
something with say 1 to 3 volts drop, under the maximum current draw the
LX will take (about 3/4 Amp or so?) - i.e. 2 to 4 ohms, 5 watts, should
do.  (My LX charges well off an RS 10V power supply that I happen to
have spare from my PC110's.)  An RF Choke in series with that resistor
will reduce noise spikes somewhat, the resistor and capacitor (at the LX
end, of those in series, connected to ground - with the TVS, like a
1.5KE18AMSCT, across the cap;  Use a 25+ volt cap, maybe 50V;  Maybe put
1/3 the resistance between the + side of the cap and your LX, and
another TVS at the LX, if "paranoid".

Another way to do this is to have the "charger" circuit turn off the
HP's power connection when the battery voltage is low (engine not
running or not yet started and spun fully up), though that puts you
right back on the high initial charge current part of the curve.

Or, "cheat", get a small "Gel" cell, top it off every so often when low,
plug your LX into that nice clean source of 12V when you want to charge
it.  An LM317 "float" charger is easy to make, if you want to charge 'em
at home off 117VAC.  BG Micro has a 4.5AH gel cell for $6.95, not bad.
Also could charge the gel cell through just a small (high wattage)
resistor to "float" charge it off the car's power.  Little heavy to
carry around, not too bad though.

"ideal" is probably to float charge the gel cell when car's running, and
run the LX off the gel cell, just a nice resistor or even a dropping
diode has proved pretty effective in the past on other systems, but
those were designed for car use, I don't think the LX is.  A gel cell
with a resistor & the inductance of the wire going to it, tends to be
pretty stable, voltage wise (the resistor takes all the peaks, changing
the charging current the battery sees, pretty clean.)

Fuse it, whatever you do <G>

  Mark

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Merry Christmas, all!

I cannot seem to access "HPLX Unplugged", http://comports.com/hplx,
where LXRef's said to reside.

Is there an alternate place to find LXRef?  Will go buy the SDK later,
most likely, want to start learning before then.  Is NetForward's
hardware just sick?  I can TraceRoute to there, just no http or ftp
access.

BTW, SUPER refers to PAL at
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/gilles/pal.htm, which 404's, so
I cannot even grab that.

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Date:         Sat, 25 Dec 1999 13:05:33 +0100
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>   >Is there a way to use a database file and have some of the
>   >information from one of the database records automatically entered into
>   >a form letter using Memo?
>Not that I know of.  This was a widely used feature of database packages
>called mail-merge, but I've never seen its application on an LX DB.


If you have the CPack, there is a merge function available.

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Date:         Sat, 25 Dec 1999 13:10:46 +0100
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Have a look at
http://www.user.tu-berlin.de/~dherbgba/palmtop.html#hardware

-goe-

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From: Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Freitag, 24. Dezember 1999 20:01
Subject: IR question


>Folks,
>
>I fried a motherboard and picked up a replacement last week.
>After transfering drives, cards and ram etc I noticed the
>mother board has IR pins on it. In the CMOS setup there are
>several options for the IR including HPSIR. So I assume I
>can hook it up. So what type of connector do I need to buy
>use the on board IR?
>
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I downloaded a program to check the 2000 reliability on the LX.

The program was compatible with DOS machines.

I ran it on the C drive and got the following message:

"Real Time Clock Malfunctioning.Cannot Perform Year 2000 Test"


I suppose this means,that the LX hasn't any real time clock?

I take it this is good concerning the threat of the year 2000?


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On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> I suppose this means,that the LX hasn't any real time clock?

Yes, that's correct.

> I take it this is good concerning the threat of the year 2000?

The 200LX has no problem whatsoever with the year 2000.  The system and
all of the built-in applications will operate perfectly.

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> On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

>> I suppose this means,that the LX hasn't any real time clock?

> Yes, that's correct.

Actually it does have a Real Time Clock.  It just isn't accessed in the
same way as in a normal PC where it is read from the CMOS.  The palmtop has
some special registers that contain the RTC value.  I had to deal with this
in Minix so that it could pick up the current Date and Time from the
HP200LX.

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On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, David Sargeant wrote:

> > I take it this is good concerning the threat of the year 2000?
>
> The 200LX has no problem whatsoever with the year 2000.  The system and
> all of the built-in applications will operate perfectly.

All built-in apps? does that mean that contrary to earlier reports,
CC-Mail does not have sorting problems (or something like that) with
messages from beyond Y2K?



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> Do LX owners have to worry about any 2000failure?

There aren't any significant problems that I've heard of.

> No upgrade of the BIOS is needed?

Nope and it's a good thing too as none is possible.

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Matthew Sheffield <mws722s@MAIL.SMSU.EDU> wrote:

> I've never been satisfied with the Windows
> versions. If only there were a fully data-compatible Windows version of
> CPACK

The Windows versions of the 100/200LX applications here a
quickly banged out hack.  I am not even sure that HP wrote
that stuff.  I think they just bought it and threw it in with
the Omnibooks.

> Why didn't HP include the DB apps in its Windows CE handhelds????

HP did not write WinCE or the applications included with it.
Microsoft is responsible for that.  HP (and the other hardware
makers) just make the hardware to fit MS's specs.  You should
complain to MS that there is no DB app.

And I agree with Ed K. that MS did what they did on purpose to
make things simple for the users and simple to support.


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Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> wrote:

> would be nice if I could run my primary LX and also my powered off LX
> backup from the same power supply

RadioShack sells the exact "Y" shaped power cable you seek.
The plugs are the correct size for the 200LX.  I don't know
the catalog number, but it should not be too hard to find in
the catalog or on the rack in the store.  I bought one there
and use it for the exact same purpose you want.  Works great!


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Just leave the flashcard in the palmtop at all times.  It does
not need or use any power when the palmtop is turned off.
Flash is non-volatile, so it will always retain the data even
without power.  I recommend you store all of your data files
on it.  So that even if your batteries fail and the palmtop's
C: drive disappears, your data is safe.  That is what I do.

The life cycle of the card is something in the millions of
writes these days.  In other words, the card will outlast you.
 I don't spend a single second worrying about my flashcard
wearing out - and I am a very heavy user.

I also recommend Sandisk as the #1 brand of flashcard.
Personally, I will not buy any other brand.  I am currently in
the market for something larger than my 40MB and don't care
about what other off-brand cards there are or the so-called
savings I might see.  Peace of mind is very valuable to me.

There is no way to quantify any battery life reduction when
using a flashcard.  It all depends on the type of batteries,
the battery life you got before the flash card, how often you
write to it vs read from it or use it at all.  The point is
that it is not noticable considering the tremendous benefit of
having that much extra storage.


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> Do CF w/Type II adapters definitively work in a HP200lx? Are there any
> special installations or drivers required? Which are HP "preferred" CF =
card
> suppliers, apart from Sandisk (just so I have more options)?

I have an 8 Meg and a 48 Meg CF card.  I use the same adaptor for both.  =
They
both work fine without any additional installation or drivers in my =
200LX.  I
have only had experience with Sandisk brand CF cards.

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> --is Accis 4.0 worth the upgrade? I never used my 3.0 and bought it =
just
> before Educalc went out of biz.

acCIS is only useful if you have Compuserve as your main internet provider=
.  It
doesn't work with any other ISP.  I use it daily, so it is very helpful =
for me.

> --Does a double speed upgrade cause any screen legibility problems?

Some DS units have an unreadable screen if you don't load a special =
driver in
your config.sys file.  Normally, you would never notice a problem.  If =
your
batteries die and you have to reinstall everything, it will be harder to =
do
with this sort of screen.  The easiest solution is to keep the DS driver =
and
you config.sys and autoexec.bat files on a flash card.  This way you can =
reboot
to a normal screen even if your internal RAM drive is gone.

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David Sargeant wrote:

> all of the built-in applications will operate perfectly.

Except in Lotus we need to use @date(100,1,1) for 1/1/2000
not @date(00,1,1) or @date(2000,1,1)

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Hello everybody,

I wanted to do a little programing project for the 200 LX in using the PAL
librairies for the 1st time. I downloaded Borland C, installed it, and I
tried to compile the example menu.c contained in the PAL examples. But, I
did not succeed and I got a bunch of linking errors:

 Linking C:\TC\MENU.EXE:
 Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_PalDeInit' in module MENU.C
 Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_HandleMenu' in module MENU.C
 Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_FatalExit' in module MENU.C
 Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_LoadImg' in module MENU.C
 Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_PalInit' in module MENU.C
 Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_CloseWin' in module MENU.C
 Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_GetKey' in module MENU.C
 Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_Line' in module MENU.C
 Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_SetRule' in module MENU.C
 Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_OpenWin' in module MENU.C
 Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_WinText' in module MENU.C
 Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_SelectFont' in module MENU.C

I am probably missing something obvious but it's been a long time since I've
touched a C compiler (unfortunately). Anyway, can somebody help or point me
to somewhere where I could find help ?

I also wish everybody nice holidays.

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I would be very interested in knowing how to do that.  It might be the
answer to my problems...

Dale


Date:    Fri, 24 Dec 1999 21:43:27 +0000
From:    "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject: Re: HELP: Digital Radio

> Thanks, Jeff.
>
> I'm using the factory cable with a null modem connector/adapter.
>
> I've thought about removing Stacker and the ACE flash programs, but I
don't know how I'd
reboot
> to get access to my flash again....

I have not really followed the thread in detail but there is the issue
of sysmgr interfering with serial port activities when in dos.  There
is a "polling" or some other action that occurs on a very regular
interval where the sysmgr checks for data on the serial port.  It can
interfere with dos communications programs.  There are ways of locking
the port or terminating sysmgr before running such software in dos.

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On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 15:02:04 -0500 Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> writes:
> IF all you want is email access, why not pay for the palmtop fee
> ($60), then look into getting a low-cost calling card, as low as
> 7 - 10 cents/minute, with minor fees for payphone use (30 to
> 50 cents/call).

Sounds like you have not heard of Freeway.   Free long distance plus
ccmail sounded like
a good deal to me, but there are a few downsides:

1-Freeway gives only 2 free hours per month.
2-ccmail seems a little slow in dialing.
3-The 9600bps limit seems slow for the limit imposed on the time.
4-Without trying the service with some regularity, I am not yet ready to
register.

There was a thread on this a while back, and it seems to me that none of
the
people which jumped at the the chance at the time are currently doing it.
There were complaints about the speed issue then as well.

Domingo

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On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 15:27:03 -0600 Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> writes:
> Is there a way to use a database file and have some of the  information
from
> one of the database records automatically entered into a form letter
using
> Memo?

For Memo and the built in database there is nothing (until we can learn
to read
the vector site in japanese, I suppose).  For DOS, the best  program to
do that
which I know of is MsWorks for DOS.   I used to use it for just that
purpose.
The database program is built in with the wordprocessor, spreadsheet,
communications and calendar, and yes, what you want  can be done
*automatically*.
The macro language is also great.   The only down side is, of course,
that it doesn't
do anything as well as dedicated programs that do things separately.

Currently I use InfoSelect and the built-in database program, plus
dosclip from SUPER,
for pasting into a word processor.  This is not automatic, but it suits
my current needs.

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On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> All built-in apps? does that mean that contrary to earlier reports,
> CC-Mail does not have sorting problems (or something like that) with
> messages from beyond Y2K?

Yes.  If I recall, Ed Keefe researched this and found that the rumors of
cc:Mail's Y2K problems were incorrect.

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> I wanted to do a little programing project for the 200 LX in using the PAL
> librairies for the 1st time. I downloaded Borland C, installed it, and I
> tried to compile the example menu.c contained in the PAL examples. But, I
> did not succeed and I got a bunch of linking errors:
>
>  Linking C:\TC\MENU.EXE:
>  Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_PalDeInit' in module MENU.C


Are you linking in the correct library for TC?

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Hi.   I have an observation and a possible bug report.

I have been trying to find a way to load the program which leaves no gaps
in memory, but no matter what I do, the program leaves a small gap above
the program (about 140 bytes).  i know this is nip-picking, but I have
been
trying to fix some memory fragmentation issues, and that has been one of
my
approaches.  Your other TSR's don't show this behavior.

Now for the bug.   I have noticed that double-clicking will not
capitalize a word
after a dash (-).   That's how I write my name, hence the need for this.

Domingo Diaz-Vazquez
                            


 P.S.  I played some more, and found that the double click wil not work
after *any* character.
I see the logic in this, but could that be changed for the double click
part only?

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> > Do CF w/Type II adapters definitively work in a HP200lx? Are
> there any
> > special installations or drivers required? Which are HP
> "preferred" CF card
> > suppliers, apart from Sandisk (just so I have more options)?
>
 I have an 48 Meg and a 96 Meg CF card.
 I use the same adaptor  for both.  I also have
the same in Simple. They all work fine without any additional
installation or drivers
 in my LX.


=====
> >     o__       regards from
> >    _.>/)_     Thailand. Tooling
> >   (_) \(_)    around lookie, lookie

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I have heard of Freeway, but I feel that once the cost hit about
10 cents a minute, I really started to lose interest in the exchange
of a minute or two of my time for a free call.

The two hours of free long distance equals 120 minutes, at a
rate of 10 cents a minute that comes to $12 a month saved,
at a cost of about 30 to 40 minutes of my time - not a winning
combination, IMHO.

I usually take a "full function" laptop when I travel, and use the
AltaVista free internet connection (which requires Win95 or
NT, IIRC).

HTH,

Ken
khansen@njcc.com

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Date: Saturday, December 25, 1999 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: Palmtop compatible USA ISP


>On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 15:02:04 -0500 Ken Hansen <khansen@NJCC.COM> writes:
>> IF all you want is email access, why not pay for the palmtop fee
>> ($60), then look into getting a low-cost calling card, as low as
>> 7 - 10 cents/minute, with minor fees for payphone use (30 to
>> 50 cents/call).
>
>Sounds like you have not heard of Freeway.   Free long distance plus
>ccmail sounded like
>a good deal to me, but there are a few downsides:
>
>1-Freeway gives only 2 free hours per month.
>2-ccmail seems a little slow in dialing.
>3-The 9600bps limit seems slow for the limit imposed on the time.
>4-Without trying the service with some regularity, I am not yet ready to
>register.
>
>There was a thread on this a while back, and it seems to me that none of
>the
>people which jumped at the the chance at the time are currently doing it.
>There were complaints about the speed issue then as well.
>
>Domingo
>

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On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Mack Baggette wrote:

> Actually it does have a Real Time Clock.  It just isn't accessed in
> the same way as in a normal PC where it is read from the CMOS.  The
> palmtop has some special registers that contain the RTC value.  I had
> to deal with this in Minix so that it could pick up the current Date
> and Time from the HP200LX.

Does this mean that regular DOS applications will just think there is no
RTC, and they'd have to be written specifically for the 200LX to take
advantage of it?

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List and non-English readers,

I'm a reg Buddy user and used to make a call of BuddyDOS in my different
Software Carousel sessions (in order to be able to use the SmartCaps function
of Buddy). Buddy understands English only (as of the doc's) and I could type
umlauts and the like only after disabling Buddy.

AutoCaps occupies significantly less space, gives you the same features as
Buddy-Smartcaps and allows me to type non-English characters :-)

Great job, Stefan.

2431 to all.


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David Sargeant wrote:

>
> The 200LX has no problem whatsoever with the year 2000.  The system and
> all of the built-in applications will operate perfectly.


I really,really hope you are right,cause I have noticed that I have =
become some form of LX-addict.As soon as I get some trouble with the LX,I =
feel how the panic come creeping:Oh,no!How many hours or days,or even =
more horrible,weeks will I perhaps now be without my LX!!!:-))



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Domingo,

>  P.S.  I played some more, and found that the double click wil not work
> after *any* character.
> I see the logic in this, but could that be changed for the double click
> part only?

Autocaps instantly will raise a couple of questions of various origin.
I would rather recommend to allow an exception list, which of course
will take some memory.

This will allow every user to take care language problems and every
user is doing his own balance regarding the amount of memory he will
spend for his exception list and the comfort on writing using
Autocaps.

Regards

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Mack Bagette wrote:


"It just isn't accessed in the > same way as in a normal PC where it is =
read from the CMOS."


In school I learned that the verb read is inflected:read,red,red

But I have noticed that people here on the list use "read" instead of =
"red" in  past tense??



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    Let not English grammar ever be mentioned in the same breath as Internet
mailing lists. I think we are now moving into a new style of English which
we will call Netspeak which is a genuine sub-set of English. Already it is
bringing new words to the English language -- FAQ is one example.
    Punctuation may not exist as we know it in Netspeak.
    The use of paragraphing, commas, semi-colons is not as in formal
English.
    There are, however, other rules.
    For example, the convention is that if I write WHY DOES THE HARD DISK
NOT RESPOND I am shouting which is offensive. (This has a practical side. It
is very difficult to read messages which are all in capital letters. This
has been shown by extensive practical testing.)
    These seems to be a shorthand, fire-from-the-hip feel about Netspeak and
my theory is that this is nearly always what starts flame wars.
    Messaging on the Internet is a more instant form of communication than
letters or even postcards. Emotions come across and are not masked by
English grammar.
    Even more interesting is that instant messaging creates a sub-form of
Netspeak which we might call ICQspeak. That is even less grammatical, more
abbreviated, quicker to type.
    None of which I think is a bad thing.
    My son, who works on an Internet site and would not know a gerund if it
bit him on the bum. The acitive and passive tenses are to him a strange
country. But he can write for the Internet. A slightly different skill to
writing for books, magazines or newspapers.
    I write for all of the above and have to put my mind into a different
mode for each of them.
    Where it will become seriously interesting is with voice recognition. I
make extensive use of Dragon Dictate and the articles that result are as if
written by another person. This may lead to a new form of written English
called Englishspoke.
          As to the matter of "read" in the past tense.
            Fowler, the sage of the English language who, like you, had an
elegant sense of irony, wrote that inflection was a general name "for
changes made in the form of words to show their grammatical relations to
their context or to modify their meaning in certain ways."
    With Netspeak we do not need to do that. It can be "read" in the past,
present and future tenses without any ambiguity.
    So let us take the words of Francis Bacon,  First Baron Verulam and
Viscount St Albans, who wrote: "Read not to contradict and confute, nor to
believe and take for granted, nor to find talk and discourse, but to weigh
and consider."
    Meanwhile, on another and totally disassociated subject.
    I use a 200 LX and a Hewlett-Packard Omnibook 430. I have Windows 95
installed on the latter and use a memory card for swapping data.
    In poncing around with my Omnibook 430 I seem to have disenabled the
mouse thingy that pops out which may look little and weak but is normally
perfect for what I need. I have made a work-around by fitting another mouse
to the serial port but I would like my built-in mouse back in operation.
    Does anyone on this forum have an Omnibook of that age -- that was the
mono job and for my money the best laptop for journalists -- and the needed
mouse drivers? And, if possible, advice on where to install it?
    Hewlett-Packard, but of course, think I am talking of some device of the
devil. It is over five years old and therefore. in H-P's opinion, past
history which should not be exhumed.
    One last point -- it is Boxing day and I am being prolix so forgive me.
    I have followed with interest the discussions on the infrared port.
    On the 200 LX I am fairly sure it is non-standard. The infrared port of
the 200LX will not, under normal circumstances, communicate with the
infrared port on the  Omnibook 430. Years ago when this was important to me
I found that it is just possible to use some sort of workaround. But a
Ramdisk is a quicker and more elegant solution.

    A Merry Christmas -- Nadolig Llawen -- to you, Lars, and  anyone who
reds this.


Gareth Powell

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From: Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 26 December 1999 10:54
Subject: FLUFF:English Grammar


>Mack Bagette wrote:
>
>
>"It just isn't accessed in the > same way as in a normal PC where it is
read from the CMOS."
>
>
>In school I learned that the verb read is inflected:read,red,red
>
>But I have noticed that people here on the list use "read" instead of "red"
in  past tense??
>
>
>
>Lars/Sweden
>
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loic.sautour@WANADOO.FR wrote that he tried installing Borland C and got a
bunch of link errors when trying to use the PAL libraries.

It sounds like the paths to point to the PAL code, as well as the Borland
code, need to be set. (Options, directories in TC's TUI ) ...Not sure what
the command is in the commandline version.

I believe both versions 1.0 and 2.0 on the Borland site can handle the PAL
libraries.

The problem with downloading the Borland compilers is that there is no
documentation other than the built-in help files and for that you either
need to install the TUI or use the TSR help program. The help files are
helpless for most of the C++ code.

.ed.

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On 12/26/99 at 5:31 AM Lars Hedstroem wrote:

>In school I learned that the verb read is inflected:read,red,red
>
>But I have noticed that people here on the list use "read" instead of
"red" in  past tense??

Lars,

Your "read" versus "red" comment is accurate in terms of pronunciation
(though "reed" and "red" would be less ambiguous).  However, "read" is one
of those annoying words which has two pronunciations and one spelling.
"Read" is pronounced "reed" for present tense, but as "red" for past tense.
 The actual word "red," in most of its definitions, refers to a color.  It
has nothing to do with reading.

Little things like this are pretty much unavoidable with a language as
perverse as English.  Kudos for communicating in it; I'm ignorant of
anything beyond my native tongue.  My hat's off to you and everyone else
who is multi-lingual.

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On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 10:15:56 +0100 "Guenther Helmuth E."
<h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET> writes:
> Domingo,
>
> >  P.S.  I played some more, and found that the double click wil not
work
> > after *any* character.
> > I see the logic in this, but could that be changed for the double
click
> > part only?
>
> I would rather recommend to allow an exception list, which of course
> will take some memory.

While I understand the concern, I fail to see how my recommendation would
alter the basic functionality of the program.  The author can of course
comment
on this point.

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> >  P.S.  I played some more, and found that the double click wil not work
> > after *any* character.
> > I see the logic in this, but could that be changed for the double click
> > part only?
>
> Autocaps instantly will raise a couple of questions of various origin.
> I would rather recommend to allow an exception list, which of course
> will take some memory.

The problem would be an Uppercase followed by a double letter, like:

 UPercase.  Or even uPercase.  Unless the typer accounts (aCounts) for
this behavior, and slows down, a double letter will be shifted.

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> Mack Bagette wrote:
>
> "It just isn't accessed in the > same way as in a normal PC where it is
> read from the CMOS."
>
> In school I learned that the verb read is inflected:read,red,red
>
> But I have noticed that people here on the list use "read" instead of
> "red" in  past tense??

It is inflected and is PRONOUCED RED but both read (reed) and read (red)
are spelled the same.  So either you mis"heard" or your teacher was
wrong. (or do the British spell it differently than we Americans?)

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I am trying to get TCP/IP to work on my palmtop.  I have a ACCTON 2216
ethernet card and LXTCP.  I was wondering if anyone would send me there
AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS files to show what drivers and when to load them
to get LXTCP to work.

Thank You,

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              Rick Kozak <rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA>
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> Hi Rick,
>
> > I've tried to use the HP to read the IR keyboard that I have with no
> > success. I think there have been others who've made the attempt and
failed
>
> Did you receive _nothing_ or just garbage? What app did you use to make
> the received characters visible?

garbage. A key typed would generate different output sometimes. There was no
consistent pattern to it. Its been a while, but I think I set the IR port up
and a serial and read the characters from the uart... something like that
anyway.

>
> > as well. Even if it worked, you'd still have the awkward problem of
having
> > your keyboard pointing at the side of the 200lx. Makes the screen kinda
hard
> > to read :-)
>
> a little mirror would solve this problem.
>

another hinge to crack :-)

rick

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I  have (9) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are
in excellent condition. They have only been used a  very few times on
testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg
PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for
$65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! I also have (8)

16 Meg 72Pin EDO Simms for sale. I sell (1) 16 Meg Simms for $15.00 and
I sell (2) or more for $13.00 a piece plus $3.00 shipping . You can send

payment  to my address at:


Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back  the day I receive your payment and let you know
that your disks our on the way. I always send out next day unless I
receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on
Monday. Please email me and let me if you are interested and when you
are sending payment so I can hold your disks for you. The response has
been tremendous and the people I have worked with on this group have
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I often open text files in PE where the lines are too long, and don't wrap.
PE has an option on the Format menu to reformat a paragraph, which works
fine but is tedious to do for the whole text file. Is there a way to
reformat an entire text document in PE all at once?

TIA,
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF:English Grammar

Rick Rae writes:
>
> Your "read" versus "red" comment is accurate in terms of pronunciation
> (though "reed" and "red" would be less ambiguous).  However, "read" is one
> of those annoying words which has two pronunciations and one spelling.
> "Read" is pronounced "reed" for present tense, but as "red" for past tense.

Also note that some verbs (e.g., lead/led) *do* follow the form
Lars recalls.

Ted

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> On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Mack Baggette wrote:

>> Actually it does have a Real Time Clock.  It just isn't accessed in
>> the same way as in a normal PC where it is read from the CMOS.  The
>> palmtop has some special registers that contain the RTC value.  I had
>> to deal with this in Minix so that it could pick up the current Date
>> and Time from the HP200LX.

> Does this mean that regular DOS applications will just think there is no
> RTC, and they'd have to be written specifically for the 200LX to take
> advantage of it?

There is an interrupt that does some standard RTC stuff.  Program won't
work that try to read the RTC directly from the CMOS.

Cheers,
 Mack                            mailto:mack@times2tech.com

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I have fixed the problem: grabbed a copy of unzip.exe from the Thaddeus
Info base CD, got the original ZIP configuration from Finder R10, and it
works without a problem.
Must be something with my pkunzip, but no point in investigating
further.

My config for ZIP files is now:
.zip    ,200+lt ,unzip -o %c -d %t\%x;\,%t\%x
%r      ,200+l  ,unzip
%q      ,240+l  ,pkzip

Thanks for the suggestions.
Paulo
> When I press Enter in the ZIP file, I get the correct list of LZH files.
> But pressing Enter on
> one of the LZH files, I only get an empty file list, unless I am working
> in split view and
> the other window has the Trash directory.

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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: C programing with PAL Librairies question

Loic Sautour writes:
> Hello everybody,
>
> I wanted to do a little programing project for the 200 LX in using the PAL
> librairies for the 1st time. I downloaded Borland C, installed it, and I
> tried to compile the example menu.c contained in the PAL examples. But, I
> did not succeed and I got a bunch of linking errors:
big snip

I dont know how you are linking (using the command line or the IDE but you
should add the PAL library to your link list or Project.


======================
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davidb@cimatron.co.il
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: Programs that use EMS

Ed Keefe writes:
> Do you mean that TC 1.0 hangs when you run something like ABC/LX and tell
> the computer to charge the rechargeable batteries?  I haven't tried this
> lately but I don't recall hanging the computer while using BC 2.0. I never
> did use EMS with the compiler. Wonder if that might be where the problem
> lies.
>
> Do you have BC 2.0. It's now free at http://community.borland.com/museum/
> .ed.
This what Imean. I wish to emphasise that the problem is NOT with ABC/LX as
I have reproduced the problem by just enabling charging. It appears that the
problem is with the TC++ 1.0 IDE.

Does BC2.0 run on the palmtop, and is it C++. I never rememeber the version
numbers of the Borland Compilers. I use TC++ 1.0 on my palmtop and BC++ 3.1
on mydesktop for DOS programming.


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On 12/26/99 at 12:14 PM Theodore Heise wrote:

>Also note that some verbs (e.g., lead/led) *do* follow the form
>Lars recalls.

Simply further evidence of how perverse the English language is.  ;)

Rick

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Hello LX users.


It was appearantly interesting to discuss English grammar,I got many =
answers off list.
.
I answer you all here.

I dug up my old english grammar book from high school,so now I know how =
it is,atleast as for the British English.

I was wrong "smile"

The spelling is read,read,read

While the pronunciation is ri:d,red,red

I mixed them up,sorry...


Another lesson,except looking in the grammar first before talking,is:don't=
 burn your old schoolbooks even if it is tempting:-)

Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Date:         Sun, 26 Dec 1999 15:36:17 -0600
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David Becher <davidb@netmedia.net.il> asked if BC2.0 runs on the LX.

I have BC 2.0 (Borland C/C++) on my LX. It runs acceptably well with a
double speed machine. The compile times are fast for plain C (faster than TC
1.0, if I remember correctly)  but slow for compiling and linking C++ code.
I tried using precompiled headers which is fine for experimenting but adds a
lot of code.

I haven't tried Turbo C 2.0--the one available for free. I suspect that it
will work on the LX. I think it is straight C. The download file is too
small for all the extra C++ code.

I just noticed a change in the download site, maybe it was there and I just
missed it, but the site states that the files may not be re-distributed in
any way.

But, you can login to http://community.borland.com/museum/ and click on
Anonymous to get the file and try it out. If you click New User, you give
out a lot of info.

.ed.

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Mike,

> Happy Holidays,

Happy Holidays to you too!

> Below is an updated feature list. To enable some of the features you =
will
> have to manually edit lxgftp.dat. The next version will have a setup
> dialog to handle this.

It was very nice Christmas surprise, thank you very much. I tried a
couple of features instantly when I connected to my NT server.

Each of the new features did work flawless.

I do enjoy your ftp client whenever I use it.

Looking forward for the next release. I will be every interested in
recursive PUT and GET.

I never thought that one day this kind of powerful tool will be
available on a hp200lx.

Thank you very much!

Regards

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Date:         Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:46:44 -0800
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For anybody looking for a 200LX just found this post on the NG.

Good Luck and Happy Holidays!


--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "mirskymk" <mirskymk@gateway.net>
Subject: HP200lx for sale
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:16:13 -0600

HP200lx, ACE 10meg double flash card, serial cable and HP connectivity =
Pack.

No longer needed.  Please e-mail any offer to mirskymk@gateway.net




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Date:         Sun, 26 Dec 1999 23:38:46 +0000
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On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 15:36:17 -0600, Ed Keefe wrote:

>But, you can login to http://community.borland.com/museum/ and click on
>Anonymous to get the file and try it out. If you click New User, you =
give
>out a lot of info.

I couldn't find the file when I looked. Got any pointers?

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.org.uk>
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Date:         Sun, 26 Dec 1999 19:09:09 -0500
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              S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM
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> In school I learned that the verb read is inflected:read,
> red,red
>
> But I have noticed that people here on the list use "
> read" instead of "red" in  past tense??

I use "read" for both present and past tense.  For present tense it is =
pronounced
like "reed" and for past tense it is pronounced like the color "red".  =
This
usage is supported by my palmtop Collins dictionary (notice the deft =
tie-in to
the HP palmtop <g>)

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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 03:39:35 -0500, Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE=
.COM> wrote:

> AutoCaps occupies significantly less space, gives you the same features =
as
> Buddy-Smartcaps and allows me to type non-English characters :-)

Yes AutoCaps is cool software, but unless it automatically changes the
number keys to the corresponding punctuation it's not a SmartCaps
replacement. Will it change I6ll to I'll? I haven't tried the newest
release so I may be speaking out of turn and would love for someone to =
tell
me that it does offer this feature.

Jeff

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Comments: cc: jeffj@SCOTT.NET

   >Yes AutoCaps is cool software, but unless it automatically changes
   >the number keys to the corresponding punctuation it's not a
   >SmartCaps replacement. Will it change I6ll to I'll? I haven't tried
   >the newest release so I may be speaking out of turn and would love
   >for someone to tell me that it does offer this feature.
Message-Id: <19991227040243.EINW28505@12.72.155.139>
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 04:02:43 +0000

Good point Jeff, and one that I was mulling over myself.  Since I've never
used Buddy, I don't have any experience with SmartCaps to compare against,
but I agree that the shifted numeric keys also often pose a problem in
digital (finger-wise) gymnastics.

Do you have to disable SmartCaps everytime you enter an alphanumeric
sequence (such as a auto license number or vehicle ID number ... these are
a mixture of letters and numbers)?  Or are you talking about
double-clicking the "6" key?  AutoCaps at the moment, doesn't appear to
support the numeric keys, but I'm sure Stefan is open to suggestions

Does SmartCaps support the shifted blue keys as well? (ie, via
double-clicking).

- Longden

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On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

> Do you have to disable SmartCaps everytime you enter an alphanumeric
> sequence (such as a auto license number or vehicle ID number ... these are
> a mixture of letters and numbers)?  Or are you talking about
> double-clicking the "6" key?  AutoCaps at the moment, doesn't appear to
> support the numeric keys, but I'm sure Stefan is open to suggestions
>
> Does SmartCaps support the shifted blue keys as well? (ie, via
> double-clicking).

SmartCaps allows you to have it use the shifted value via a pre/post
method and actually works quite well. I can enter a tag number such as
58AD1243 and it would be entered just as I typed it since the 1 after the
'D' is followed by a number and not a letter. I haven't fooled around
with setting-up the blue keys, so I can't really comment on them.

Please bear in mind that I am extremely please that Stefan created this
software and am not 'dissing it'. I just wonder if the only thing keeping
him from going further with it is the possible infringement of Patents
held by the author of Buddy? It sure would be awesome to have a SmartCaps
only TSR!

Jeff

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David Becher wrote:
> you should add the PAL library to your link list or Project.

That was it, I created a project and put the PAL library and my C source in
it and it compiled/linked great.

Thanks for the help of all of you who anwsered me.

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              Dale Gillilan <positivechanges.hypnosis@GTE.NET>
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Hi, Mark,

>An LM317 "float" charger is easy to make, if you want to charge 'em
>at home off 117VAC.

Can you provide info on how to make one?  I have two Group 27 Gel-cells
connected in parallel for the "house" batteries on my sailboat and would
like a better way to keep them charged.  Would this approach be
sufficient to handle the amphours of this arrangement?

>I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide.
>(For private individuals at cost; ask.)

I will be crusing with my family soon and am interested in your
service.  Please email me with more info.

Thanks,
Dale

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 06:21:02 GMT
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              GARRON GARRON <garron@HOTMAIL.COM>
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THATS RIGHT,
I WANT TO BUY A HP95LX THAT OLD DOS PALM TOP.
CONTACT
ANDREW
GARRON@HOTMAIL.COM
OR FAX 323-724-0989
OR TEL 323-722-7116
______________________________________________________
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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:17:19 -0800
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Hello all

I would like to find a software which read all 200lx data
( *.ndb + * gdb + *.pdb + *.adb + ... ) under Windows NT 4 ?

Thanks for your help

Best regards

Cathy

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:09:25 +0000
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              nospam@UNDECIMUS.FREESERVE.CO.UK
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Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:06:07 +0000 (GMT)

17h05m15s ago ...
On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 11:00:52 -0600 (CMT), Steve Dowell wrote:

> Is there a way to reformat an entire text document in PE all at once?

ESC-Q on each long line or Ctrl-X H to select whole buffer then ESC-Q.

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 07:37:51 -0500
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              Brian McIlvaine <Brian.McIlvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM>
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Beg pardon, but will post here - HP 100LX for sale. On Ebay:
HP 100LX with 10Mb, Connectivity Pack, Modem
Item #225174280

Brian

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 09:12:04 -0500
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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Hi everyone,

Just a quick note to say that plenty of stuff has been
updated at http://games.hplx.net. I've added a new Asteroids
game (Blasten Game) to download, as well as a slowdown
utility for those games and other programs that run too fast
even on an LX!

There's also plenty of new games information, new useful
links and a completely new site format (this one's readable!).

Hope you all had a great Xmas, and have an excellent New
Millenium...

 -Mike http://games.hplx.net

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 15:32:55 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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During the decades a programmer should develop a feeling for
the complexity of a given task. Usually a well describable task
can be implemented within a reasonable amount of time.

But sometimes it's just the opposite: Something which cannot be
described in words turns out to be very easy to program, like
the FIRE animation, and something, where it is obvious for
everybody, what the program should achive, turns out to be
extremly complicated, like with AUTOCAPS. I myself went into
the AUTOCAPS trap by thinking it is a relatively simple TSR.

But I'm almost at the limit of what my brain can achieve and
for the first time in years I had to use a paper and a pencil
to draw a Nassi-Schneidermann flow-chart to keep trak of all
the possible exceptions.

Most new wishes overturn my current design and I have to restart
almost from scratch, which I'm getting tired of.

My initial approach was, to design a TSR which could be
activated all the time, not only while writing text. That is,
typing at the system level should work almost as before and
typing text should ease the capitalization of letters. This
cannot be done at a 100% errorfree level without an incredible
overhead of code.

Please also note, that what you suggest might look simple at
the logical level and could be relatively simple implemented
in the code of one program like a word processor for example.
But a TSR does not know which program it serves and it has to
be as modest as possible to not interfere with other programs.

For example, the blue keys cannot be double clicked, because SC
already took them before AUTOCAPS comes into place.

The same is true for the + and * keys from the NumPad under
SysMgr. This has to do with the way I intercept the keyboard.
If BUDDY uses another method, it might take over these keys as
well. If you need what BUDDY offers, stay with it.

Once AUTOCAPS finished a character, which is identical to it's
appearance on the screen, it cannot get it back for further
manipulation. Hence it can only work with the past, not the
future.

Please also note, that there is only a rudimentary history in
the system of what has been typed so far, called keyboard
buffer. But this buffer holds every key, you pressed, not only
what is visible on the screen. Checking it for words, you typed
in the past, must fail, if you used for example the cursorkeys
in the meantime, which is not unlikely.

And please don't forget, AUTOCAPS is freeware, and my
principles have not changed:

-I implement what I want and need.
-I fix bugs
-I implement other whishes, if it can be done easily.

The next version of AUTOCAPS will support a user defined patch
list of 16 characters. You decide, which character should
appear after you double clicked the original key. If you map
the NumPad key 6 to ', then ' appears after you double clicked
the 6. These keys will work at any position in the word, not
only at the beginning. To type for example "I'll" you then have
to double click i, double click 6 and double click l.

Stefan

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 09:57:03 -0500
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              Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Hello,

Is anyone aware of an lx program that will help keep score in 500 (card
game).

Thanks,
Tom Salwasser

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 15:03:48 +0000
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> Please also note, that what you suggest might look simple at
> the logical level and could be relatively simple implemented
> in the code of one program like a word processor for example.
> But a TSR does not know which program it serves and it has to
> be as modest as possible to not interfere with other programs.

I've cut a lot of what you wrote which was also important.  Buddy is
very complex which explains why the code size is large.  Jeff first
determined which application he was in and sometimes which field so that
typing a phone number would not change a 6 to '   etc, etc.

He also "watched" the screen for hints using the graphic image of a font
character which is why it is an English dependent program.

And like you (g), he first added features that HE wanted and needed and
then, if it seemed logical might add other features.  But as the feature
list rose, so it the complexity and program size.

And finally, but certainly not least, THANKS for all of your many very
useful programs and in most cases the THANKS is in reverse proportion to
code size.  (g)  What you cram into tiny code is amazing.

Fred

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:07:07 -0500
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Rick Kozak <rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA> wrote:

> I had a Sinclair just before I purchase my Acorn. My memory of the =
thing is
> having to shut off the video to run calculation intensive code at any
> reasonable speed

Yup.  I remember that computer.  There was no video chips in
there, the processor pumped the raster out one of it's I/O
ports.  So, it could either do processing or make the video,
but not both at the same time.  The display even blinked off
for a split second for each keystroke as it was processed.
That was truely an example of minimalist hardware.


Stan

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 09:07:00 -0600
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Stefan,
I've been using AUTOCAPS constantly since you first release it, and find
it VERY useful. Thank you very much for this wonderful contribution to
the LX community!

Steve


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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 07:17:35 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Just saw some news reports about an intense and widespread system of storms that
appears to have affected several countries of our fellow list members in Europe,
including Britain, Italy, Belgium, France, Germany and Switzerland.  Wind gusts
upwards of 108 mph (174 km/hr) were reported, and it appears to be far from over
as a new storm with expected 90mph winds are expect to hit France Monday
evening.  Damages are being reported across several countries.

I hope that all members and their families and friends are bearing up OK and
that the storms have not caused any major problems for you.  I'm sure it was
(and continues to be) a damper on your holiday, and certainly not the best
prelude to Y2K.

BTW, has anyone heard from Nathalie in the last few days?   I had attributed her
absence to holiday activities, but  France seems to have been hit especially
hard.

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 09:55:31 -0600
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 15:03:48 +0000, "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.N=
ET> wrote:

> And finally, but certainly not least, THANKS for all of your many very
> useful programs and in most cases the THANKS is in reverse proportion =
to
> code size.  (g)  What you cram into tiny code is amazing.

Amen, I really appreciate all of Stefan's programs!

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:12:40 -0500
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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>At 06:13 PM 12/22/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>I just tried ibrowser (thanks for the tip Qman) and it works
>well with Ebay.
>>It's a nice little careware browser and the have a version
>that supports
>>secure HTTP for $25. All this on a device that costs less
>than $100. (Nino
>>210 from onsale auction). I did use a zoom 14.4 pocket modem
>that cost me
>>$30 on ebay... oh, also about $10 for 2 9-pin serial adapters
>from radio
>>shak.
>in>
>
>Interesting.  Is this a browser for a Windows CE unit?  How
>does it differ
>in functionality from "Pocket IE"?  And more importantly, where do you
>download it?

I'm not sure how it differs from pocket IE as I've never used it. I think it
works similar to HV in that it does not directly support frames,
java(script) or https:. I'm still in the process of messing with the CE
stuff so I'm not sure where the other limitations are. I'm sure I'll find
more. So far, I have to say that I'm impressed with what I've seen. The
200LX is more powerful but a hell of a lot more expensive. I'm thinking of
putting up a mail message with my pros and cons comparing a Nino 210 and
DS200LX32MB. Maybe after I fool around with Nino some more....


>
>Thanks again,
>>David Ball
>Regards,

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:18:10 -0500
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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> Date:    Fri, 24 Dec 1999 15:27:03 -0600
> From:    Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
> Subject: Database and Form Letter
>
> Is there a way to use a database file and have some of the
information =
> from
> one of the database records automatically entered into a form letter
=
> using
> Memo?
>
> Jeff
>

You tried it from the other direction? Create the letter in Memo, and
use it as a Smart Clip in the database. Then set up your printer
definition to use Custom style for your SmartClip definition. Works
same as printing any other record(s) from a database.

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:20:51 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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I was moving all of my journal entries over from the database application
to the Appointment Book application, and when it was all done, I had an
.ADB file that was about 500K.  Well, unfortunately, the machine froze up
while I was exiting the appointment book application, and I had to
ctrl-lshift-on it.  Now it tells me it can't open the journal.adb file.
Andreas's ADBIO gives me a "Memory allocation problems.  Aborted!"
message, and Curtis's DBCheck gives lots of errors.  Is there any way I
can salvage this file?

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 21:21:30 +0100
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Fred,

> And finally, but certainly not least, THANKS for all of your many very
> useful programs and in most cases the THANKS is in reverse proportion =
to
> code size.  (g)  What you cram into tiny code is amazing.

Thank you for writing these lines! I think and feel the same way.

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 14:22:25 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Mon, 27 Dec 1999 15:52:36 -0500 (EST)

Hi Gang --

Just found another great reason to to be glad I use the 200LX for
reading my mail.  Received a message allegedly from a cousin, but with
a different From: address, and containing a virus attachment
(something called Pretty Parks or pretty.exe).

Checking the mail with Post/LX, I saved it without opening, so no
problem.  With M$ Outlook Express, I would probably be up that infamous
creek without a paddle.

Be careful out there...

Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 16:39:04 -0500
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Mon, 27 Dec 1999 16:28:45 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

   I have just noticed an odd behavior with AUTOCAPS. Occasionally,
   when typing ' a ' I get '  a'. It seems to have something to do with
   my typing speed, but the command line switches /0 -> /9 don't seem
   to make a difference. Anyone else able to duplicate this behavior?

   Thanks,

   And HAPPY HOLIDAYS !

*
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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 15:42:08 -0600
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              Roleigh Martin <rol@UHC.COM>
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HP states the HP200 is Y2K Compliant for what's its worth, can't provide
the URL but I did read it once.

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 16:48:36 -0500
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Mon, 27 Dec 1999 16:40:26 -0500 (EST)

Yep! Same here, I haven't yet gotten any of the alleged MSOutlook
bombs, but I feel much safer with EMail on my LX...not to mention I
have instant access to any message/response I've received/written by
just reaching in my pocket!

Cheers...AJKind


02h18m01s ago ...
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> ...
> Checking the mail with Post/LX, I saved it without opening, so no
> problem.  With M$ Outlook Express, I would probably be up that infamous
> creek without a paddle.
>
> Be careful out there...

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 22:52:25 +0100
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              Geert van Wirdum <v.wirdum@HCCNET.NL>
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> Is there a way to use a database file and have some of the information =
from
> one of the database records automatically entered into a form letter =
using
> Memo?

I would think few software suites let you perform this task easier than
the LX's native PIM applications. If the form is not too complex, and
does not require enhancements, skip Memo and work right from the
database's clip editor.

First select or mark the records you want to fill out the form for.
Open a new Smart Clip definition. Type the form text, or switch to
Memo and paste the form text from an existing file into the new clip
definition. Select the fields you want to use in the right places, and
close and name your Smart Clip. Then use the database's print
function and select Custom Style, your clip, 1 record per page, and
print to file, name the file, and... Done!

Things become slightly more complicated when you require the software
to find and select 56 records in a 3486 records database, the 56 having
nothing in common but your decision to fill out the same form for them
today. My suggestion is to type a unique search string for each record,
one per line in a separate file (a 'names list'), and use a key macro
from the database to fetch the next search string from the names list
in Memo, return, paste the search string in the Find function, and
change each found record to reflect it belongs to your new selection,
e.g. by attributing it to a special category. This could all be done
with one key macro. You can now define a new subset for this group, and
use the earlier clip-print procedure. The additional benefit: your
database now 'knows' whom the form was already filled out for.

There may be cases where you want to use enhancements you can not
easily have in a smart clip. In that case you should use a more
powerful editor. Still, as long as you can switch between that and the
database, I do not easily see cases where a key macro would not be able
to solve the problem. Costs you an hour perhaps, if the case is
complex, but you will save your macro and have it forever, as long as
the LX will last.

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 17:14:30 -0500
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              Steve Soper <ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID>
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We have an HP OmniGo 100 that my wife has really never used.  We would
like to give it a good home - hopefully in exchange for a 100 or 200LX.

Anybody have a desire to adopt a good PDA?  The first device to come
out of the Singapore design office - has touch screen, with graffitti
built in.

Thanks,
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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 16:35:33 -0600
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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Jon Barrett wrote:

> You tried it from the other direction? Create the letter in Memo, and
> use it as a Smart Clip in the database. Then set up your printer
> definition to use Custom style for your SmartClip definition. Works
> same as printing any other record(s) from a database.

This is brilliant--and one example of why I stay on this list.
Lots of people here that think outside the box.

I couldn't see how to get info from Memo to the SmartClip until
I saw the suggestion to paste it in.  Is there any other way?

Also, after playing around with several experimental SmartClips
(in my PhoneBook), I find that my 200LX will not let me delete
any of them!  It gives me the "Cannot delete built-in smart
clip" message.  I tried rebooting and restarting the app, same
result.  Any ideas?

Ted

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 19:33:01 -0500
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I recently acquired a SanDisk 96 MB compact flash card.  It seems to
function fine in my HP100LX (standard 1MB model) except when I try to
use MaxDos.  If I run MaxDos and go to the "a:" prompt and do a "dir"
the computer locks up to the point where I have to do a ctrl-shift-on.
Anyone else experience this?

Thanks
Gary
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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 19:50:58 EST
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Stefan,
Sounds just like us. Give people something nice and they automatically want
more.
=:-o

Thanks very much for your hard work.

Dennis Vest

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Date:         Mon, 27 Dec 1999 21:24:40 -0800
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              al chin <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
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> a new storm with expected 90mph winds are expect to hit
> France Monday evening.  Damages are being reported across >
several countries.
>
> I hope that all members and their families and friends are
> bearing up OK and
> that the storms have not caused any major problems for you.
> I'm sure it was
> (and continues to be) a damper on your holiday, and certainly
> not the best
> prelude to Y2K.
>
> BTW, has anyone heard from Nathalie in the last few days?
> I had attributed her absence to holiday activities,
> but  France seems to have been hit especially hard.

If so, she is probably woiking verry hard.
Bless her young heart.  Happy holidays, Nat.

Repent for the end is neer...


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> >     o__       regards from
> >    _.>/)_     Thailand. Tooling
> >   (_) \(_)    around lookie, lookie

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Date:         Tue, 28 Dec 1999 01:33:36 -0500
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: AUTOCAPS

Hi Stefan,

>The next version of AUTOCAPS will support a user defined patch
>list of 16 characters. You decide, which character should
>appear after you double clicked the original key. If you map
>the NumPad key 6 to ', then ' appears after you double clicked
>the 6. These keys will work at any position in the word, not
>only at the beginning. To type for example "I'll" you then have
>to double click i, double click 6 and double click l.

The above sounds like the best way to keep the ingenious Autocaps TSR
small and simple, while offering maximum flexibility to accommodate
almost anyone's special wishes and needs.

Again, thanks for providing such a terrific TSR!  What a Christmas
present! :-)

This again brings to mind the seasonal saying, "The best things come in
small packages."

Happy Holidays!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Tue, 28 Dec 1999 02:48:20 -0500
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Stefan,

> I myself went into
> the AUTOCAPS trap by thinking it is a relatively simple=20
> TSR.
> And please don't forget, AUTOCAPS is freeware, and my
> principles have not changed:
>=20
> -I implement what I want and need.
> -I fix bugs
> -I implement other whishes, if it can be done easily.

I go with Fred saying it's amazing how much functionality you put into on=
e byte
of code. I take with gratitude whatever you add to AutoCaps.

I am a registered Buddy user although Jeff warned that Buddy does not
understand languages (=3Dkeyboards) other than English. In fact I had pro=
blems
with umlauts and the "=DF" letter. Now this works with AutoCaps which is
excellent.

If AutoCaps does not support doubbleclick on blue keys or numpad - so be =
it.
It's still excellent software. I have substituted Buddy with AutoCaps in =
all SC
sessions except SysMgr and I don't see any disadvantages. I'm greatfull f=
or the
98% features and will not complain about the 2% that are "missing".

> The next version of AUTOCAPS will support a user defined=20
> patch list of 16 characters.

Great - that brings you to 99% features :-)
=20

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Tue, 28 Dec 1999 09:37:09 MEST
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>Just saw some news reports about an intense and widespread system of storms
that
>appears to have affected several countries of our fellow list members in Europe,


>I hope that all members and their families and friends are bearing up OK

I live on the boarder of Switzerland/France and we had no power on Sunday.
The LX worked on. 13 deads in Switzerland.
The storm in Switzerland especially hit the mountain region of Berne, where

they expect dangerous blizzards now, because a lot of trees are destroyed.

-goe-

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Date:         Tue, 28 Dec 1999 10:05:37 +0100
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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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> rainstorm with expected 90mph winds are expect to hit France Monday
> BTW, has anyone heard from Nathalie in the last few days?
> - Longden

i'm wet :))))

i'm fine; just got back from x-mas with my mum, sis (27) and bro(25) - and
now it's off to nightshift :(

.....and a WARNING to you all - don't send your palmtop unregistered in the
mail

i sent my 200lx on Nov.18 priority mail to Thaddeus for 2x speed upgrade,
and Jon wrote that it has not arrived and that i should get worried it may
be lost (to some greedy postal worker)

now i am using Scott's flash on my backup 100lx - who sent them ordinary
mail, and so did i - resulting in the loss of my 200lx

thank you Longden for the CF and bag of tricks ;)
Al, your postcards from BKK did not arrive

     __o      regards from Nathalie in France
  _(\<._      with LX in pocket waiting for the rain to stop
 (_)/ (_)     and backlit 2 speed to make my day one day in 2000

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Date:         Sat, 25 Dec 1999 15:26:53 +0100
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Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:
>
> I want to once again state the we need a eBay client for the LX!
>
Jeff, have mercy with Avi's pants! :-)

Ulrich

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Date:         Tue, 28 Dec 1999 01:18:40 -0800
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              Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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Dale Gillilan wrote:
>
> Hi, Mark,
>
> >An LM317 "float" charger is easy to make, if you want to charge 'em
> >at home off 117VAC.
>
> Can you provide info on how to make one?  I have two Group 27 Gel-cells
> connected in parallel for the "house" batteries on my sailboat and would
> like a better way to keep them charged.  Would this approach be
> sufficient to handle the amphours of this arrangement?

Sure;  Grab http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM117.pdf (The LM317 is in the
LM117 family), and as well grab http://www.national.com/ms/LB/LB-35.pdf,
either the schematic at the top of page 17 in LM117.pdf, or the
schematic in Figure 3 in LB-35 is probably like what you want for the
sailboat.  It's a pretty simple circuit, a few solder joints and you're
done <G>

An LM317 can do 1.5A output current (with the TO-3 or TO-220 packaging,
don't try that with the surface mount or TO-92 or TO-39 packages <G>), I
don't know what you want on the sailboat, is 1.5A enough to handle your
batteries?  Can parallel these, too.  If you want more info, let's talk
off list.  (I just plain don't know what the AH capacity of a type 27
deep cycle battery is anymore, been using 12V 2AH and 4.5AH batteries
for wearable computers and palmtops, lately.)  If you need more current,
something like the schematic on the bottom of page 17 of LM117.pdf can
do the job.  I can help design you something better for your situation.
The LM317 is pretty easy to control via digital controls, which is nice.

> >I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide.
> >(For private individuals at cost; ask.)
>
> I will be crusing with my family soon and am interested in your
> service.  Please email me with more info.

On my shipping, more in e-mail off-list, basically if someone needs
things received or bought from in the US and shipped overseas, I do it
at cost for regular folks, as I'm already doing it for money for a few
companies. Lets people buy from eBayers who won't ship overseas, etc.
(I usually save the companies money as they slow ship to here & then I
can express things from here to US destinations, everyone wins there, I
split the savings with them.)  I'm forwarding electronics parts,
magazine subscriptions, anything legal and convenient for people (An
Ethernet PCMCIA card, recently.)  Some companies charge WAY too much for
overseas shipping, IMO.  If you're cruising & know a schedule /
whatever, I can help.  Keeps me from getting bored <G>

Ob. "Fluff":  Posted my upgraded 5Mb 2x 200Lx and 5Mb 2x 1000Cx to eBay
today, finally, will ship those internationally if won by overseas
bidders <G>  Still moving in here, getting organized, took me long
enough to do those & get them listed, still haven't found some tools.
Now I'm getting unhappy with my personal, 2Mb, 1x machine, want to speed
it up soon <G>

> Thanks,
> Dale

  Mark

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Date:         Tue, 28 Dec 1999 06:53:05 -0500
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

> I fried a motherboard and picked up a replacement last week.
> After transfering drives, cards and ram etc I noticed the
> mother board has IR pins on it. In the CMOS setup there are
> several options for the IR including HPSIR. So I assume I
> can hook it up. So what type of connector do I need to buy
> use the on board IR?

You can find a do-it-yourself-guide for such an IR device on my
homepage:

http://daniel.hplx.net/palmtop.html

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 28 Dec 1999 04:13:02 -0800
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              al chin <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
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>
> i'm wet :))))
>
> i'm fine; just got back from x-mas with my mum, sis (27) and
> bro(25) - and
> now it's off to nightshift :(
>
> .....and a WARNING to you all - don't send your palmtop
> unregistered in the
> mail
>
> i sent my 200lx on Nov.18 priority mail to Thaddeus for 2x
> speed upgrade,
> and Jon wrote that it has not arrived and that i should get
> worried it may
> be lost (to some greedy postal worker)
>
> now i am using Scott's flash on my backup 100lx - who sent
> them ordinary
> mail, and so did i - resulting in the loss of my 200lx
>
Now yu have a great excuse to get a 96MB 2X for a treet.
kause yu NEED it for da new milleninum....

> thank you Longden for the CF and bag of tricks ;)
> Al, your postcards from BKK did not arrive
 I'll write some more.... or is that the way to get
extra ones?  :)
>
Glad yor safe......


=====
> >     o__       regards from
> >    _.>/)_     Thailand. Tooling
> >   (_) \(_)    around lookie, lookie

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Date:         Tue, 28 Dec 1999 07:44:44 -0600
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Subject:      Re: C programing with PAL Librairies question
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> David Becher wrote:
> > you should add the PAL library to your link list or Project.
>
> That was it, I created a project and put the PAL library and my C source in
> it and it compiled/linked great.

You also might want to look at the PM utility tht's provided with
the PAL package.  It's in the UTIL subdirectory, I think.  I compiled
and linked as you are doing, until I found this nifty utility.  Check
it out!

-Chris

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Date:         Tue, 28 Dec 1999 08:19:24 -0600
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I'm working on a small PAL application, and I have only one simple dialog
box.  I want to use the SetDlgItem call, to pre-load a value for an
edit field in the dialog box.  It isn't clear to me when to call the
function.  Could someone who has successfully used it give me some
help?

Thanks,

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 28 Dec 1999 08:41:45 -0600
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              Barry Marks <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> > I had a Sinclair just before I purchase my Acorn. My memory of the =
> stuff deleted
> That was truely an example of minimalist hardware.

About a year or two ago on alt.folklore.computers there was a discussion of
programming games on the 1k Sinclairs.  One of the programs often mentioned
was a chess game that provided a computer opponent.  A lot of people were
skeptical.  But then the author of that game popped in and what followed was
a really interesting discussion of how he wrote (and how to write) such a
game in what is actually about 820 bytes, since the OS used the rest.

Personally, I think he was probably too inexperienced to know that it
couldn't be done.
I know I would never have attempted it.  :)

I'm sure this is in the archives at DejaNews if anyone is interested.  It's
well worth reading.

Barry

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> I'm working on a small PAL application, and I have only one simple dialog
> box.  I want to use the SetDlgItem call, to pre-load a value for an
> edit field in the dialog box.  It isn't clear to me when to call the
> function.  Could someone who has successfully used it give me some
> help?

This is the basic sequence I use.

InitDialog(...)
SetDlgItem(...)
ShowDialog(...)
HandleDialog(...)
GetDlgItem(...)
CloseDialog(...)


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Select the text you want to format (all of it in your case)
then format paragraph.

I discovered this by accident. (OK Avi, I'm sure it's on the
first page of the help file ;-) )

Chris R.


On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, <swdowell@BELLSOUTH.NET> wrote:

> I often open text files in PE where the lines are too long, and don't wrap.
> PE has an option on the Format menu to reformat a paragraph, which works
> fine but is tedious to do for the whole text file. Is there a way to
> reformat an entire text document in PE all at once?
>
> TIA,
> Steve
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Folks,

I noticed palmtop.net is for sale on ebay. Anybody know if
this is for real? And what will happen to super when palmtop
is sold?


> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=224378804


> Description
> The palmtop computer is the hottest thing to hit computing since the original IBM PC.
> Millions of people have thrown out their paper planners and stepped up to the ultimate
> in handheld electronic organization. Millions more are converting every month. Don't
> miss this opportunity to grab PALMTOP.NET (The Palmtop Network) and capitalize
> on computing's future as the next millenium approaches. Arrangements for transfer of
> the domain will be made within ten days of the end of the auction. Serious bidders
> only please.

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You noticed! :)

It was actually more of an experiment based on the proddings of a few
friends. I did not expect any bids. I was worried that none of you sharp
people would notice, but I feel better now.

SUPER is safe.
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> This is the basic sequence I use.
>
> InitDialog(...)
> SetDlgItem(...)
> ShowDialog(...)
> HandleDialog(...)
> GetDlgItem(...)
> CloseDialog(...)

Mike:

Thanks.  I am  in fact calling them in the same sequence as you do.
Perhaps my problem is with the arguments themselves.  I'm using a
string for the edit field.  Maybe you can tell me where to look for the
"item specific documentation" that the manual refers to under the
GetDlgItem and SetDlgItem entries?  I think that maybe that's my
problem.

For example, to get the string, I call it like this:

  char *wstr;
  GetDlgItem( DlgArrayn, INWPM, EDGI_PTR, &wstr );

But to *set* the default dialog item, would the call be slightly
different?

  double value;
  char woldstr128;
  sprintf(woldstr, "%lf", value);
  SetDlgItem( DlgArrayn, INWPM, EDGI_PTR, woldstr );

I have tried this and it doesn't seem to work.  Do I need to pass
a pointer to the pointer for the SetDlgItem, just like I do for
the GetDlgItem?  I think I tried this, as well, to no avail.
Do I need to use a different integer for the EDGI_PTR argument?

Any help would be appreciated.

-Chris


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> If you need what BUDDY offers, stay with it.

Wise advice.

> -I implement other whishes, if it can be done easily.


And personally, this is all that I ask.

I'm in complete agreement with Stefan's design philosophy, which I think jibes
with minimalist in most of us, to get the most "bang for the buck" (or mark, or
franc) in terms of the resources needed, be it program size or Stefan's time.

I think we're all aware that the final 10 percent of any "user-friendly or
idiot-proof" code often takes 90 percent of the effort, and results in code
bloat.

If I make any suggestions for enhancements, let me be clear that it's only to
"bounce ideas" around.  As a programmer, I find this occasionally helps to get
the maximum benefit by uncovering ideas that may be useful and "done easily" but
maybe outside the original design concept.  Many such suggestions should be, and
are, tossed on the floor .... but better to have made (and rejected) them than
to lose the one or two gems.

I applaud Stefan, and all other programmers on this list (paid or unpaid, active
or lurking), for doing the "sword of Solomon" on enhancment requests, and
recognize that it's often a difficult line to walk.

Stefan has done another fantastic job with AUTOCAPS, to which I (and my former
shift-key thumbs) are grateful. Thanks Stefan.

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Nathalie:

>i'm wet :))))
Try not to drip on your keyboard <g>.

>i'm fine
What counts. Glad to hear that.

Stefan (Goeldi):

>I live on the boarder of Switzerland/France and we had no power on Sunday.
Y2K prelude?  Keep your spare AA's handy.

>The storm in Switzerland especially hit the mountain region of Berne, where
>they expect dangerous blizzards now, because a lot of trees are destroyed.
Very grim.  Thanks for the update and I hope you're not in harm's way.  If it's
any comfort, we once had a poster (on Mitch's list) that reported good LX
operation even in the cold of Siberia <g>.

I live in Southern California where we just had a fire about 20 miles (32km)
from my house that burned 4,400 acres (about 18 sq km) of brush/trees and some
houses.

Fire, flood and storms ... what a holiday season and what a way to ring in 2000.

Stay safe,  all.

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Mitch,

If anyone does meet your starting bid amount, You can always
get a new domain named www.hplx.net and move super to it.


Mitchell Hamm wrote:
>
> You noticed! :)
>
> It was actually more of an experiment based on the proddings of a few
> friends. I did not expect any bids. I was worried that none of you sharp
> people would notice, but I feel better now.
>
> SUPER is safe.
> --
> Mitch
> SUPER Team
>
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> Thanks.  I am  in fact calling them in the same sequence as you do.
> Perhaps my problem is with the arguments themselves.  I'm using a
> string for the edit field.  Maybe you can tell me where to look for the
> "item specific documentation" that the manual refers to under the
> GetDlgItem and SetDlgItem entries?  I think that maybe that's my

If you look under the section for IhEdit there are details about Set and
GetDlgItem that are specific to the text box.


>   char *wstr;
>   GetDlgItem( DlgArrayn, INWPM, EDGI_PTR, &wstr );

If you have one dialog, why do you have an array? Otherwise it looks ok.
Remember though that wstr will be invalid after a CloseDialog. You'll have
to copy the string elsewhere to keep it. You could just use a char array,
and call Get with EDGI_TXT.


> But to *set* the default dialog item, would the call be slightly
> different?
>
>   double value;
>   char woldstr128;
>   sprintf(woldstr, "%lf", value);
>   SetDlgItem( DlgArrayn, INWPM, EDGI_PTR, woldstr );

This should work if you change to EDSI_TXT indicating you are
passing a ptr to a string (Notice S for set I assume, not
G). This is the only variant supported. The IhEdit section has more
details.

HTH,
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Has anyone run across this problem before? My wife's 200LX recently made
a strange consistent screeching, with an alarm activated.
Esc didn't work to stop it. Ctr Alt Del didn't reboot.
I did a system restart, saying "no" to initialize disk.
The screeching started immediately. All the same as above.
After another restart, I did an alt boot, bypassing "200" and stopping
at a dos prompt.
Backed the date up one day, deleted the offending alarm, rebootted, all
ok.
Checked alarm options, changed to a different one, tried again, same
problem.
I guess the next thing to try would be to re-initialize the disk
(assuming some correupted file) and re-load data.
Is there an easier way?
TIA
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At the time I came across BSD Cribbage and started to port it, I also
noticed an interesting program called "quiz".  It takes text files with
questions and answers and tests you.  The text files look easy to create.

This sounds ideal for the LX.  Is there something better already out there
with an open format? (especially something with source code?)  I'm tempted
to port it to a PAL app (an EXM would be even better, but I don't have the
book)

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My first PC was a Sinclair ZX81, 1k, flat keyboard along with 16k expansion
board I had to cool down with a taped fan otherwise the machine would crash
after about 10 minutes. I copied (and lost) a lot of games off magazines, had
the ZX Flight Simulator that could only really do final approach and Marine
Rescue (sort of a marine donkey kong). Then I got a Timex Sinclair 1000, copied
more games, bought the Flight Simulator cartridge, had much fun with it and
finally got enough money to buy a bigger machine. The question was: Atari 520ST
or Sinclair QL? Well, the QL was half the price, so I bought that one. It had 4
colors in high-res, came with a sort of "office package": charting, spreadsheet,
wordprocessing and drawing, had the "microdrives" -- an infinite tape loop that
could store 100k, coded a 3d drafting program for a science project, and finally
got a PC.

Amazing how the world evolves...

Philippe

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> > > I had a Sinclair just before I purchase my Acorn. My memory of the =
> > stuff deleted
> > That was truely an example of minimalist hardware.
>
> About a year or two ago on alt.folklore.computers there was a discussion of
> programming games on the 1k Sinclairs.  One of the programs often mentioned
> was a chess game that provided a computer opponent.  A lot of people were
> skeptical.  But then the author of that game popped in and what followed was
> a really interesting discussion of how he wrote (and how to write) such a
> game in what is actually about 820 bytes, since the OS used the rest.
>
> Personally, I think he was probably too inexperienced to know that it
> couldn't be done.
> I know I would never have attempted it.  :)
>
> I'm sure this is in the archives at DejaNews if anyone is interested.  It's
> well worth reading.
>
> Barry
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I once used the built-in database for something like a flash card app.

For example, questions would be one field (displayed in column format), and the
answer could be a note field which you could view via Ctrl-D (toggle datacard
display), or F3 (view note).  GDBLOAD could be used to build the database from a
text file (modified to CSV format).

The main problem would seem to be questions limited to a single line, and the
lack of randomness to the questions.

What significant advantage do you see in the quiz software, over the generic
database?

- Longden





Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM> on 12/28/99 11:03:42 AM

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At the time I came across BSD Cribbage and started to port it, I also
noticed an interesting program called "quiz".  It takes text files with
questions and answers and tests you.  The text files look easy to create.

This sounds ideal for the LX.  Is there something better already out there
with an open format? (especially something with source code?)  I'm tempted
to port it to a PAL app (an EXM would be even better, but I don't have the
book)

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On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Patrick West wrote:

> If anyone does meet your starting bid amount, You can always get a new
> domain named www.hplx.net and move super to it.

I'll sell for only $100,000, leaving Mitch a tidy $150,000 profit.  <g>

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Then you can pool your funds and develop a new palmtop.

David Sargeant wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Patrick West wrote:
>
> > If anyone does meet your starting bid amount, You can always get a new
> > domain named www.hplx.net and move super to it.
>
> I'll sell for only $100,000, leaving Mitch a tidy $150,000 profit.  <g>
>
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On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 nxw988e@tninet.se wrote:

> I really,really hope you are right,cause I have noticed that I have
> become some form of LX-addict.As soon as I get some trouble with the
> LX,I feel how the panic come creeping:Oh,no!How many hours or days,or
> even more horrible,weeks will I perhaps now be without my LX!!!:-))

Don't worry, all of the palmtop's built-in programs are Y2K compliant, as
is the palmtop itself.  One user reported that the palmtop does suffer
from the 2038 bug, which is a well-known problem with regular C programs,
but we still have 38 years to deal with that one.  <g>

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On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:

> Just saw some news reports about an intense and widespread system of storms
> that appears to have affected several countries of our fellow list members in
> Europe, including Britain, Italy, Belgium, France, Germany and Switzerland.
> Wind gusts upwards of 108 mph (174 km/hr) were reported, and it appears to be
> far from over

I had a panoramic view of the storm blowing over the Lake of Lucerne (took
pics). It whipped spray up 100-200 m into the air, knocked a tree down which
grazed my house. On the other side of the mountain, apparently whole swaths
of several thousand trees were knocked down. Same for the German Black
Forest. One newsclip showed a whole leeward ridge and valley of trees
being knocked down in seconds, falling like matchsticks! According to German
TV, the highest gust was recorded at 171.5 mph/276 kmh.

Global warming will make unusual storms more regular and a lot worse!

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Having joined the list a few days back, and awoken to the bad news that no
more HP 200lxs will be made, I riffed through my old boxes to find a
venerable copy of Palm Connect to do a database/phonebook backup to my
laptop (since my 2nd 200lx is down). The great thing about Palm Connect is
the fully functioning database app on Windows.

Unfortunately the original install disk has a couple of corrupted files. I
searched the web and the Palm/3com site but couldn't find it anywhere. It
also wasn't available at Thaddeus, One-Stop and other sites. Many web links
appear old (that was to be expected) and a lot broken (that was
disappointing). Does anyone have any leads on how/where I can get a
replacement? I suppose it's been long out of production but still hope to
solve this problem.

Thanks for any help.
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Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:05:45 -0500 (EST)

03h31m44s ago ...
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, bobv wrote:

> Has anyone run across this problem before? My wife's 200LX recently =
made
> a strange consistent screeching, with an alarm activated.
<big snip...>

Sounds like your c:\_dat\alarm.q file may be corrupt.  This is a hidden
read-only file, so unless you have X-Finder or StereoShell, you'll need
to go to c:\_dat and do:
        attrib -h -r alarm.q
then delete the file.  When you reboot, a new file should be created.

I've never had this problem, but I seem to recall some discussion on
the list, and that this is the solution.


HTH

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Date:         Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:43:22 -0500
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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> Sounds just like us. Give people something nice and they automatically want
> more.

As a programmer, I found out long ago that people don't know what they
want until they see what they get.

cheers... Russ

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Funny you should mention Palm Connect, as I just bought one at a garage sale.
Let me know what you need!

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: Palm Connect for 100lx & 200lx


> Having joined the list a few days back, and awoken to the bad news that no
> more HP 200lxs will be made, I riffed through my old boxes to find a
> venerable copy of Palm Connect to do a database/phonebook backup to my
> laptop (since my 2nd 200lx is down). The great thing about Palm Connect is
> the fully functioning database app on Windows.
>
> Unfortunately the original install disk has a couple of corrupted files. I
> searched the web and the Palm/3com site but couldn't find it anywhere. It
> also wasn't available at Thaddeus, One-Stop and other sites. Many web links
> appear old (that was to be expected) and a lot broken (that was
> disappointing). Does anyone have any leads on how/where I can get a
> replacement? I suppose it's been long out of production but still hope to
> solve this problem.
>
> Thanks for any help.
> ---
> Sidney Ho
> SKYHO@csi.com
>
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Date:         Tue, 28 Dec 1999 15:38:10 -0800
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>One newsclip showed a whole leeward ridge and valley of trees
>being knocked down in seconds, falling like matchsticks!
>According to German TV, the highest gust was recorded at
>171.5 mph/276 kmh.

Amazing, and scary.

Glad for once to be in Southern California, where the buildings only shake a bit
now and then from the earthquakes (only the out-of-towners run for cover).  Good
luck to you!

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Date:         Wed, 29 Dec 1999 00:52:26 +0100
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              Alphonse POUPLIER <alphonse.pouplier@SKYNET.BE>
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Hello everybody!

I'm on your list since a few days...

From Bob:

>Has anyone run across this problem before? My wife's 200LX recently made
>a strange consistent screeching, with an alarm activated.
>Esc didn't work to stop it. Ctr Alt Del didn't reboot.
>I did a system restart, saying "no" to initialize disk.
>The screeching started immediately. All the same as above.
>After another restart, I did an alt boot, bypassing "200" and stopping
>at a dos prompt.
>Backed the date up one day, deleted the offending alarm, rebootted, all
>ok.
>Checked alarm options, changed to a different one, tried again, same
>problem.

I had the same problem. I phoned to HP and very kindly they
explained me what to do but everything of my disk c: was lost
including my agenda!

Fortunately, I could recover all because I save very often
all the data of my HP200LX into my PC.

How do I? It's very simple. I never use any of the softwares
nore the wires delivered with the HP200LX.

I have a 16 Mega PCMCIA card in my HP200LX called A:

Using Norton, I save the data of the disk C: into a directory
of the disk A: called \DISKC

Then I pull the card out of the HP200LX and I push it into
a PCMCIA slot of my PC. Then I save the data of the card into
a directory of my PC.

Note:
I find that "PC-Pocket" marvellous.
No comparison with the several "PSION".
I use a lot of stufs I have put in it, namely
the famous "MICA" (Almanach of the US Nanal Observatory),
"NORTON", "CALENDER DAY", "SOLAR SYSTEM", "LOGIS-CIEL", etc., etc...
One can find demos of "SOLAR SYSTEM" and of "LOGIS-CIEL"
in my home page. Unfortunately in french but there are english versions.

My pleasure, avec plaisir, Alphonse   URL: http://users.skynet.be/alphonse/
Wepion 50d25m NORD 4d52m EST. Pour s'inscrire a une liste ASTRO, envoyer
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Date:         Tue, 28 Dec 1999 16:04:58 -0800
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http://www.bytecom.be

Anyone seen this before?

Philippe

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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>>Give people something nice and they automatically want

>As a programmer, I found out long ago that people don't know
>what they want until they see what they get.

And some people know what they want till they see the bill!

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www.halfkeyboard.com

Now what a cool idea! Anyone could build something similar and plug it to the
serial port?

And make sure to check www.the-gadgeteer.com and www.gadgetguru.com for more
cool stuff and drooling...

Philippe

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Date:         Wed, 29 Dec 1999 03:35:14 +0100
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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I can not get Volkon Commander to work when I try to select a new drive
to show on the left side of the screen. I push Alt+F1 put it only
updates the right side of the screen..

I have already used the patch to make it work on a ds machine..has
anybody else the same problem?

Btw..good to have the Hp200 back from upgrade... :-))

--
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Date:         Tue, 28 Dec 1999 20:24:01 -0800
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              al chin <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
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Hi guys and gals

Two small problems popped up as I was tooling
around Thailand.

1. Why wood a NDB (68k) be unable to open with
a INSUFFICIENT MEMORY err msg???  Nothing else
is open and there's about 400K of mem.  Hmmmm.

2. Da second problem is G2N and N2G utils to
konvert databases do not work with large DBs
like 300KB and above.

Happy New Years, happy millenium and all da best


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Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway

Wrote:

> Btw..good to have the Hp200 back from upgrade... :-))


Welcome back Martin,always nice when a fellowscandinavian returns or =
shows up on the list.

May I,as a singlespeeder,interview you with a couple of questions?


1.What's annoying  is the timeconsuming handshakingprocedure,
does this go double as fast also?

2.Do you cope a baudrate of 19200 now?

3.Is there also an increase in the downloadspeed?If yes,how much is it?

Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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>>One newsclip showed a whole leeward ridge and valley of trees
>>being knocked down in seconds, falling like matchsticks!
>>According to German TV, the highest gust was recorded at
>>171.5 mph/276 kmh.
>
> Amazing, and scary.

In Switzerland they say it will take 20 years just to clean up the forests
(tree regrowth excepted).
>
> Glad for once to be in Southern California, where the buildings only shake a
> bit now and then from the earthquakes (only the out-of-towners run for cover).

Staying off topic (just for the Millennium), there's that "big one" still
expected. I like to explain to my European friends about (Southern)
California: Everything is epic--bigger fires, rains, floods, earthquakes,
murders, scandals, traffic jams, shopping malls...:-)

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Hello

On the behalf of Alchemija in Lithuania,who has unsubscribed due to =
problems with his Internetconnection,I ask if someone knows where to =
download a desktopcopy of Lotus123 version 2.4 or about this version?

I know Martin in Norway asked this question a couple of weeks ago,and I =
asked him off list about this matter,but all he had to say was that there =
was one guy who said he knew and would return but he never did.


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Date:         Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:58:56 +0100
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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>On the behalf of Alchemija in Lithuania,who has unsubscribed due to
problems with his >Internetconnection,I ask if someone knows where to
download a desktopcopy of Lotus123 version >2.4 or about this version?

We might get flak about this... :-) But I can tell you to search the list
for abandonware during the last month and you will find a reference to two
sites. Have a look there, I saw reference to Lotus apps on some of these
sites. Also QB, QC, Lantastic, Carbon Copy, Works?, games galore etc.
Doesn't seem to have the same attraction any more. A little like going along
a red light district and not buying anything... Either stupid, or not so
interested anymore. :-)

br

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I tried to get GDspell to work with memo, and had difficulty with it when line
lengths got to be more that 120 some characters... Is there something I am
doning wrong in this regard? If the answer is yes - you are using hard returns
often enough then I am afraid this tool is of limited use to me. I would
appreciate any input from people who are using this successfully.

As an alternate, I installed LetterPerfect, and it seems to work fine, though I
would prefer to use a free spell checker that would work within Memo.

Thanks for the assistance.

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Date:         Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:06:12 -0600
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Subject:      Re: PAL and SetDlgItem
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.3.96.991228091136.2196A-100000@dewey.technoir.nu> from
              "Mike Kopplin" at Dec 28, 99 09:30:18 am
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Mike:

> If you look under the section for IhEdit there are details about Set and
> GetDlgItem that are specific to the text box.

Thanks.  This was right there under my nose all the time!  I'm blind
as a bat - just like my wife says!

> If you have one dialog, why do you have an array? Otherwise it looks ok.

In my defense, it's this way because I used the PDE (PAL Dialog Editor)
to create my skeleton code.  I was wondering after this confusion about
SetDlgItem why the PDE doesn't have a provision for specifying an initial
variable (I think there is a feature for specifying an initial CONSTANT
value for the default).

Anyway, thanks for the help.

-Chris


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Date:         Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:06:17 -0800
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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On 28 Dec 1999 15:29:37 +0000, Chris Randle
<chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK> wrote oh so eloquently :)  :

> Select the text you want to format (all of it in your case)
> then format paragraph.
>
> I discovered this by accident. (OK Avi, I'm sure it's on the
> first page of the help file ;-) )

:-) ..  I don't recall how I discovered it, but I recall
that waaaay back when I used to reformat like Steve does,
tediously, each paragraph on its own. Maybe I asked
somewhere if there is a way to do a macro that would
automate this process and the response was that Esc-Q
works on a selected area too.

I don't think there is any mention of that in the docs for
PE. There are other commands that will work on a selected
area as well. I suspect that all the EMACS users may have
had an easier time with PE's features because it is the
package that inspired PE, so possibly much of its style was
carried over into the code of PE.

I still discover an occasional feature in the PE docs when
rereading the docs. Thankfully, it is rather short.
Clearly, some would disagree with the thankful
characterization, wanting _more extensive_ docs, not less
:)

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion.
For official D&A Software response,
please write to:  support@dasoft.com
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Date:         Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:36:56 -0800
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So what does Palm Connect have?  Compared to Intellilink or
Intellisynch or the Connectivity pack?

Fryday wrote:
> Funny you should mention Palm Connect, as I just bought one at a garage sale.
> Let me know what you need!

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Date:         Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:03:23 -0800
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Well Palm Connect is Windows based (granted, it's Win3.1 based, but hey). For
the rest, I'm not sure, haven't installed it yet...

Anyone else knows about it?

If the Company is defunct with no more support, does that make their software up
for grabs? Could we put it on Super?

Philippe

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From: Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Palm Connect for 100lx & 200lx


> So what does Palm Connect have?  Compared to Intellilink or
> Intellisynch or the Connectivity pack?
>
> Fryday wrote:
> > Funny you should mention Palm Connect, as I just bought one at a garage
sale.
> > Let me know what you need!
>
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Date:         Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:21:16 -0800
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>If the Company is defunct with no more support, does that
>make their software up for grabs? Could we put it on Super?


I think Mitch'd be very wary about tacking this on SUPER without someone doing
      the legal legwork.

Palm is defunct only in the sense that it no longer exists as a single entity,
but is now owned (I think) by 3Com, which likely owns the rights to their
software, even if they no longer offer either the product nor support.

Someone who's interested in this app (I am not), should make the necessary
contacts and get some sort of written release before putting it up for grabs on
a legally vulnerable website.

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> If the Company is defunct with no more support, does that make their
> software up for grabs?

Not necessarily.  Just because a company is no longer doing business,
doesn't mean that the software isn't still owned by someone.  I believe
the copyrights and patents are all owned by someone, not usually a
company (although a patent can be assigned to a company).  So if the
company goes belly up, someone still owns the copyrights and patents
in most cases.  That's not to say that the legal owner couldn't decide
to donate the software to the public domain, which I think has indeed
happened in a few cases.  But it doesn't automatically follow when  a
company closes its doors (web pages).

-Chris


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Date:         Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:11:18 -0800
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I think the guy was me ;-)

I eventually got back to Martin, but what I have is a couple of copies of Lotus
1-2-3 version 3.1...

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 5:34 AM
Subject: Lotus


Hello

On the behalf of Alchemija in Lithuania,who has unsubscribed due to problems
with his Internetconnection,I ask if someone knows where to download a
desktopcopy of Lotus123 version 2.4 or about this version?

I know Martin in Norway asked this question a couple of weeks ago,and I asked
him off list about this matter,but all he had to say was that there was one guy
who said he knew and would return but he never did.


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Good point. I was mainly curious...

Too bad that it's such a catch 22: you can't buy the software anymore -- or
there's no one to give the money to, and you can't copy it (the law) to make it
available to more people.

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: Palm Connect for 100lx & 200lx


> >If the Company is defunct with no more support, does that
> >make their software up for grabs? Could we put it on Super?
>
>
> I think Mitch'd be very wary about tacking this on SUPER without someone doing
>       the legal legwork.
>
> Palm is defunct only in the sense that it no longer exists as a single entity,
> but is now owned (I think) by 3Com, which likely owns the rights to their
> software, even if they no longer offer either the product nor support.
>
> Someone who's interested in this app (I am not), should make the necessary
> contacts and get some sort of written release before putting it up for grabs
on
> a legally vulnerable website.
>
> - Longden
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I am currently using LXTCP & some other utilities (free) to download news
articles (Associated Press) off the web for off-line reading.  I'd like to
post the setup to SUPER but would prefer that it go through a beta testing
and modifications first.

Any LXTCP users care to test it out?  It's much like getting the NY Times
delivered to your palmtop for free. :)

The system requires the following:
LXTCP by Rod Whitby (lxtcp.hplx.net)
  (I assume some other PPP can be used as well)
HTGET by Ken Yap (included with LXTCP)
SED by Howard Helman (sed15x.zip on S.U.P.E.R.)
HV by Andreas Garzotto (hv20e.zip on S.U.P.E.R.)
PE by Andreas Garzotto (hv20e.zip on S.U.P.E.R.)



The following services are available: (marked items are currently used)
>Top News
 Sports
 Lotteries (winning numbers)
>International
 National (USA)
>Washington
 Business
 Wall Street (Stock prices, DOW, Big movers...)
 Entertainment
 Health/Science
 Regional (New York & New Jersey)

You can find them at www.newsday.com/ap/topnewsx.htm.


I'm really looking for a few good hackers out there that can help make this
more of a "turn key" system for everyone to use.  It could use better
documentation and maybe an installation process.


Don.
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> Could one our the resident icon artists on the list design and make me a
> eBay icon. I'm good at doing a lot of things, but designing icons isn't
> something I have been able to master. Thanks in advance!
>
Jeff,

I've just uploaded two eBay icons to the SUPER Icon Server <
www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons >. They're both slightly different
representations of the eBay logo.

Hope you like 'em.

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> Good point. I was mainly curious...
>
> Too bad that it's such a catch 22: you can't buy the software anymore -- or
> there's no one to give the money to, and you can't copy it (the law)
> to make it available to more people.

Philippe:

Yeah, it's a bummer.  But there's no law that anyone *has* to sell
their invention/products.  You can invent something and just keep it
to yourself.   I believe there are even some cases where companies
procure technologies just to keep them off the market - I think I've
heard of such business practices recently in the news, if I'm not
mistaken.

-Chris


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Date:         Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:54:06 -0800
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>Too bad that it's such a catch 22:

I agree.

>you can't buy the software anymore -- or there's no one to
>give the money to, and you can't copy it (the law) to make it
>available to more people.

Probably to 3Com like loose change at Fort Knox ... they probably don't care,
but does anyone feel up to robbing Fort Knox?

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:17:23 -0600
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On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:42:47 -0500, Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.CO=
M> wrote:

> I've just uploaded two eBay icons to the SUPER Icon Server <
> www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons >. They're both slightly different
> representations of the eBay logo.

Hey Bruce, these are cool. Thanks! My eBay database now has a icon/logo =
<g>.

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:57:45 -0800
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How hard would it be to create a program that would be able to send something
that is in the clipboard of the LX via IR, and able to receive something via IR
and put it in the clipboard? The program could easily be something similar to
Zoom: it only starts working when the right hotkey is pressed.

I've always been wondering how people could easily exchange information between
their LXes...

Have you seen the add where a woman gives her phone number to this guy on
another train via IR?

Just a thought...

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Date:         Thu, 30 Dec 1999 01:46:50 +0100
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On 29 Dec 1999 01:40:02 -0800, Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE> wrote:

> Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
>
> Wrote:
>
> > Btw..good to have the Hp200 back from upgrade... :-))
>

> Welcome back Martin,always nice when a fellowscandinavian returns or
> shows up on the list.

Well I had set up my desktop pc with the wrong emailaddress so the few
messages I have replied to did not go through to the list..but now I am
back on the hp and everything is okey again.

> May I,as a singlespeeder,interview you with a couple of questions?

Yes that is okey..

> 1.What's annoying  is the timeconsuming handshakingprocedure,
> does this go double as fast also?

Well I have a special setup for email/news. I run www/lx from my
memorycard. I insert the memorycard into my girlfriends laptop and
connect to isdn/internett with 64kbps. So I can not answer you on this
question.

> 2.Do you cope a baudrate of 19200 now?

I should. I will test this with a pcmciamodem soon..

> 3.Is there also an increase in the downloadspeed?If yes,how much is it?

Can not answer this one either..

(Please mail replies to the list only..)

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Date:         Wed, 29 Dec 1999 20:35:29 -0500
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      FLUFF: 1st Computers

Hi Philippe and all,

When I was in the military in '81 I was using a top secret computer and,
by accident, discovered how to break out of it's program to find a BASIC
prompt.  I went to the local library, found a book on BASIC and learned
how to write a simple BASIC program.  I had so much fun writing simple
programs on it that I started keeping my eyes open for an affordable
computer.

My first computer was a Timex/Sinclair 1000 that I purchased for $100.  I
wrote a simple budget and cash flow management program in BASIC on that
computer, played with the Flight Simulator, etc... and had a great time.
:-)

That simple budget/cash flow management program was rewritten and
improved for many subsequent computers over the years (the next one was a
Timex/Sinclair 2080 Color computer) until my simple program ended up in
the form it is in today.  I'm now running a 16K version (including it's
data, as well) that also databases 100 transactions back, reconciles my
checkbook and includes full search functions.  It is currently being run
on  a checkbook sized Radio Shack PC-6 computer.

I've always been a minimalist too, but my only experience in programming
has been in various primitive and proprietary forms of BASIC.  It's just
a great feeling to know that if I want a simple program badly enough, I
have the option of writing it myself.

I've had no experience with BASIC compilers, but some day when I have
ample time, I'll like to re-write my program in ASIC and compile it so I
can run it on my HP200LX.  It looks like I'd have to make a lot of
changes to it, though, since it seems that ASIC cannot handle
multi-dimensional arrays. :-(

I raise my glass to all of the members of this elist and look forward to
hearing about other's humble beginnings with computers. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, John J Vanderstel wrote:

> I raise my glass to all of the members of this elist and look forward to
> hearing about other's humble beginnings with computers. :-)

My first computer was a TRS-80 Model I Level I that I evetually upgraded
to Level II all by myself. I also increased the RAM in it with the help
of a kind gentleman here in the Birmingham area that was the head of the
local users group. I was only about 16 at the time. I *never* thought
that I would have a computer with a hard drive <g> and remember rushing
home from school to write thousands of lines of BASIC and then spend
hours of debugging it and trying to make the darn thing work right. I
also remember my trusty old tape drive. I evetually hacked a external
disk drive to it as well as a 300 baud modem.... those were the days!

Jeff

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Wed, 29 Dec 1999 21:35:58 -0500 (EST)

20m36s ago ...
On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, Jeff wrote:

Mine was a TIMEX/Sinclair 1000, followed by a Comadore VIC20. Both were
given up by my Mother many years ago to the neighborhood kids. I did
manage to rescue a TIMEX/Sinclair1000 & a 1016 module from a bag
destined for the junk. Gotta fire it up one of these days to see if it
still boots.

Cheers...AJKInd

> On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, John J Vanderstel wrote:
>
> > I raise my glass to all of the members of this elist and look forward =
to
> > hearing about other's humble beginnings with computers. :-)
>
> My first computer was a TRS-80 Model I Level I that I evetually upgraded
> to Level II all by myself...
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Date:         Wed, 29 Dec 1999 18:47:50 -0800
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Remember how long it took to POKE and PEEK? And the resolution? 45x70 Whoa!!!

Philippe

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Wed, 29 Dec 1999 21:35:58 -0500 (EST)

20m36s ago ...
On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, Jeff wrote:

Mine was a TIMEX/Sinclair 1000, followed by a Comadore VIC20. Both were
given up by my Mother many years ago to the neighborhood kids. I did
manage to rescue a TIMEX/Sinclair1000 & a 1016 module from a bag
destined for the junk. Gotta fire it up one of these days to see if it
still boots.

Cheers...AJKInd

> On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, John J Vanderstel wrote:
>
> > I raise my glass to all of the members of this elist and look forward to
> > hearing about other's humble beginnings with computers. :-)
>
> My first computer was a TRS-80 Model I Level I that I evetually upgraded
> to Level II all by myself...
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> > Good point. I was mainly curious...
> >
> > Too bad that it's such a catch 22: you can't buy the software anymore -- or
> > there's no one to give the money to, and you can't copy it (the law)
> > to make it available to more people.
>
> Philippe:
>
> Yeah, it's a bummer.  But there's no law that anyone *has* to sell
> their invention/products.  You can invent something and just keep it
> to yourself.   I believe there are even some cases where companies
> procure technologies just to keep them off the market - I think I've
> heard of such business practices recently in the news, if I'm not
> mistaken.

Well, here's the provision from The Constitution:

"To promote the Progress of Science and useful
Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and
Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings
and Discoveries;"

So the question is, is withholding such tools a violation of the spirit
if not the letter of "to promote the progress of science and useful
arts?"  How does keeping things off the market promote?  By forcing
folks to invent even newer and better widgets?  Perhaps?  Perhaps not.

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Folks,

 My first PC was a Northstar Horizon S100 based computer, built as a kit.  It
had 32Meg of Ram and I splurged and bought dual 5 1/4" drives with it.  My
wife
then bought be a memory card a few months later - 16Meg for around $350 as
a kit !!!!

 I modified and enhanced this computer for several years, adding 8 inch floppy

drives and putting CP/M on it until giving it away because it was a boatanchor
to
keep shipping it at each military move - the garbage man wanted to play with
it
so it was his.

john - n0hj

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My 1st computer wasn't a computer, it was an HP-25 programmable
calculator.  I didn't know what I had bought when that $130 burned a
hole in my pocket in about 1976.  Eventually I mastered the calculator
and learned some basic programming skills in the process.

My next computer was a KIM1; anyone remember them?  It was a demo board
sold by MOS to demonstrate their new 6502 cpu chip.  I bought it in 1977
at a computer show while I was in CE training as a new IBM employee.  At
that time we were learning the system 360/370; I brought the KIM1 in to
sort of show and tell the class and I remember how amazed the
instructors were as I demo'd the KIM1 and compared it's (very small)
features with the mainframes they were teaching us.

Later machines were several Apple2s, IBM XTs, clones, and finally my
HP200LXs.

Ah, the good old days.  I think computers were more fun back then; today
they merely usable.  (But I do like my LX games!)

cheers... Russ

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I have a Data Book Thin Card Drive, mint condition, with all cables,a/c
adaptor and drivers for sale for $25 + $5 shipping. Works with PCMCIA cards,
or with Compact flash cards via a PCMCIA adaptor. Please reply off-list, to
neill@keyway.net

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Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>mentioned that some companies buy technology just
to keep it off the market...

And some programmers pull their software just so they won't have to support
it any longer.

On the other hand, I just read that Sun bought StarOffice and is giving it
away free: a blatant attempt to do onto MS what MS did unto Netscape. Wish
more companies would do that for older DOS software.

.ed.

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Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> On the behalf of Alchemija in Lithuania,who has unsubscribe
> d due to problems with his Internetconnection,I ask if so
> meone knows where to download a desktopcopy of Lotus123 v
> ersion 2.4 or about this version?
>
> I know Martin in Norway asked this question a couple of
>  weeks ago,and I asked him off list about this matter,b
> ut all he had to say was that there was one guy who
>  said he knew and would return but he never did.

The story goes like this : Contact your local IBM/Lotus dealer/rep and show
them proof that you own a HP200LX. Swear by god that you will never use Lotus 1-2-3
on your palmtop and on your PC at the same time and they will probably send you
a set of Lotus 1-2-3 disks. That's how it worked for me.



HP Staber/Salzburg

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http://www.lotus.com/home.nsf/framesets/home

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Does anyone know if Riziko is still being supported?  I am trying v1.2 and
it seems to be a very good version designed for a palmtop.  Sometimes it
seems to lock up, however (particularly when the computer is thinking).
Perhaps it is just deep in thought and can't be disturbed, even by
pressing the "On/Off" key.  Is there some way to know whether the computer
is frozen or just plotting the next move, or to disable the fact that you
can't turn the computer off mid-move?

Thanks!

-- Terry

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> Have you seen the add where a woman gives her phone number to this guy on
> another train via IR?

No, but do the chances of Philippe meeting a LX-toting phone number-beaming
young lady on the train one day warrant such a program? :-)

It's a good idea though, pity the LX isn't more widespread... Palmpilots and
Magic Desks can do this can't they?

Does the LXTCP package allow networking two LXs via IR? One can at least use
ftp then. How about an IR two-player game?

It's almost easier/faster to just swap CF-cards when meeting people, I find.
Just dump what I want to exchange or get in a \temp directory.

br

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Terry wrote:


> Does anyone know if Riziko is still being supported?  I am trying v1.2 =
and


I tried it a couple of years ago,and then this hungarian guy answered my =
questions.

Doesn't he answer any longer?


Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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On 29 Dec 1999 11:39:11 -0800, Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

> I think the guy was me ;-)
>
> I eventually got back to Martin, but what I have is a couple of copies of Lotus
> 1-2-3 version 3.1...
>
> Philippe

Yep the guy was you:-).. I think Lars misunderstood me offlist. I had
no longer need to get a hold of Lotus and therefore we did not go
through with anything..

--
Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway
-Palmtop friendly sig...

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:-)

Nobody has mentioned the Pet yet... I was 14-15 and my school had bought a
computer, God knows why, the Commodore Pet with built in tape drive that
used audio tapes. Progressed to a C64 (but used a friends VIC-20 in the
meantime). I remember slaving away at typing in hex for a chess game from
Compute! magazine, I played chess often then... Didn't do any computing then
for 5-6-7 years but then lost my non-computer job and used my last money in
the bank to buy a XT with mono screen at a sale many years ago. Sort of lead
to my present day job. Only thing is is that I never have gotten the hang of
programming. I have always picked up languages at sales and so forth, but
never really done anything, just pecked away. I am partial to the idea of
Forth though.

Found my first internet invoice the other day, was it 1993? I was among the
first private people to get internet access when Oslonett started up, before
that one had to be enrolled at a university or something. I had been BBSing
since 1990, but that was very late, bbs-wise.

Other computers through the years bought at different sales for
next-to-nothing...:

Vic 20 + 16MB RAM Expansion
Model 1 TRS-80 (laptop with nice keyboard, input a BASIC spreadsheet and
planned a kitchen on it)
COSMAC development system, 1802 cpu with 16 kB RAM and 2x 8" FDD, + 35 kg
terminal!
CBM 8032, business model with 96 kB RAM and 80x25 mono screen.
Assorted XT/AT/386/486
HP Omnigo 100

Computers I have always wanted, but never got:
A Casio calculator computer, there was one with C
A Casio computer watch, the one that could be popped in a keyboard
attachment.
Commodore SX-64, luggable with 6" colour screen
Apple Lisa...

Want now computers:
Not really. A Ruputer might be nice. A wearable would be cool. Something
totally in a jacket with a red colour HUD on my right eye glass to give me
the Terminator look...

:-)

br

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On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, John A. Evans - N0HJ wrote:

>  My first PC was a Northstar Horizon S100 based computer, built as a
> kit.  It had 32Meg of Ram and I splurged and bought dual 5 1/4" drives
> with it.  My wife then bought be a memory card a few months later -
> 16Meg for around $350 as a kit !!!!

Erm, 32Meg (as in Megabytes)? are you sure you don't mean 32Kb?

32Mb was a lot (I mean a *lot*) back then and unheard of in a home
computer. Besides, I doubt there were really any applications around to
make full use of it...


Cheers,

Laust

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On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 13:45:00 +0100, Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO> =
wrote:

> Model 1 TRS-80 (laptop with nice keyboard, input a BASIC spreadsheet =
and
> planned a kitchen on it)

This was actually a Model 100.

Jeff

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You are exactly right - 32K and 16K respectively - gee, the brain cells do
go
with age !!!

john - n0hj

Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, John A. Evans - N0HJ wrote:
>
> >  My first PC was a Northstar Horizon S100 based computer, built as a
> > kit.  It had 32Meg of Ram and I splurged and bought dual 5 1/4" drives
> > with it.  My wife then bought be a memory card a few months later -
> > 16Meg for around $350 as a kit !!!!
>
> Erm, 32Meg (as in Megabytes)? are you sure you don't mean 32Kb?

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Bob,

Welcome aboard! I'm not in charge of the SUPER Icon page, but as far as I can
tell, you can only download the icons individually. You might not want to keep
800 spare icons in your palmtop anyway, because even if zipped they can take up
almost a megabyte, depending on your disk cluster size!

If you just want a reference to the available icons, go to the page and hit
"Show All", then save the single 160K GIF image which shows all the icons. By
the way, LXPic on the SUPER file site is a great program for displaying GIF,
JPG, PCX, BMP and palmtop ICN files.

Hope this helps!

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Bruce Martin              bruce_martin@manulife.com              (416) 218-5819
Creative Resources / Affinity Markets / Canadian Division / Manulife Financial




Bob Christopher <bc@chisp.net> on 99-12-30 07:52:17 am

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Hello,

I am new to the list. Is there a way to download the entire Super Icon Library
for the HPLX200? Since there are 800+ icons, it would be nice to have a zip
file of all of them. Thanks.

  Bob

Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
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I got started with computers in school and have
benn using them (more or less) ever since.

My first was a single board computer based on the
Fairchild F8 chip.  The first one to have a recog-
nizable brand name was the Heath H-89/Zenith Z-90.
Pity the last time I tried it smoke came out.  Also
had experience with Apple  (and got one later),
and the various Radio Shacks.

Writing for the F8 got me started with assembly
language programming.  Yeesh, been a while.  Z-80
(and a little 8080) on the Z-90, and 8086 on Z-100
to now.  A fun geek hobby.  Maybe time to look into
the 32 bit extensions.

Steve

> On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, John J Vanderstel wrote:
>
> > I raise my glass to all of the members of this elist and look forward to
> > hearing about other's humble beginnings with computers. :-)
>

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John J Vanderstel wrote " in '81 I was using a top secret computer and, by
accident, discovered how to break out of it's program to find a BASIC
prompt.  "
------
Reminds me of my experience with a govt.  computer in '69. Taught myself
Basic on the DIA's dime and programmed lots of phyics problems--on a par
with what can be done in HP Calc's Solver. No one seemed to mind:  no one
could tell what I was doing. My physics profs didn't approve. They didn't
know enough about computers and couldn't tell if the numerical solutions
were right. Dumped physics in favor of a degree in computing. First
microcomputer(s) were Apples, Commodore's,TRSs, CP/M's, HP85/6's, Atari's
and TI 99/4As (working for an agency that developed courseware for local
schools.) Great fun while it lasted. My first "personal computer" was an
Osborne 1. My only acquaintance with Sinclair/Timex was in the electronic
labs at school. We'd take them apart and use the CPU and limited memory in
bread-board devices. One of the instructors had a KIM 1 hooked to his short
wave rig. Trained it to send and receive Morse code. Today's computers are
"prettier" to look at but less fun to play with. However, my Win98 machine
does sign off with the Looney Tune theme and splash screens: not sure what
that has to do with Windows. I'll leave that for the psychologists to
ponder.

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My first was a VIC-20, which I promptly burned out trying to connect a
tape recorder.  The man at the store exchanged it and my wife bought the
tape recorder drive to keep me from trying again.  We had a grand time
playing the few ROM cartridge games that were available.  When the C-64
hit my price point, I bought one.  This was what I consider my first
"real" computer.  The C-64 took me all the way through Seminary.  I wrote
bunches of papers, sermons and even my Masters Thesis on it all in the
tiny word processing program that came with the computer.  I also kept my
sanity by getting all of the magazines and books on basic programs and
typing them in.  I wrote a tic-tac-toe game just to see if I could.  When
a friend figured out how a way to beat it, I went in and wrote the code
to stop him.  He was so surprised that he went out and learned BASIC.

I remember my first printer, it was an Epson.  I don't think it even had
a model number.  It was so loud that I wouldn't print anything out except
during daylight hours because I didn't want to wake up the neighborhood.
We bought a "daisy wheel" typewriter that had a parallel port.  The
combination of the C-64 and typewriter could make masters for the
mimeograph machine and so we went for the first three years of my
ministry.  I up graded to a C-128.

My first experience with an IBM was an 8086 at my second church.  It had
a 5 MEG hard drive and Word Star.  The secretary loved it, but I stuck to
my 128 because I thought it had a much better word processor.  The
thieves who broke in stole my 128 and left the 8086 sitting on the desk.
I had a big laugh over that one.  The insurance company replaced the 128
with an Amiga 500 upgraded to 1MEG.  I eventually put a hard drive on
etc.  It retired years ago in favor of a series of IBM clones, living in
the Silicon Valley, people upgrade often and I get their hand-me-downs.

I bought my 200LX something like six years ago.  For about the first four
years (the windows 3.1 and 95 years) because I considered the LX simpler
and faster, I used it for everything.  I would amaze people by writing
sermons and putting together spread sheets, printing them out on my
Deskjet 500 using the serial cable.  With the advent of W98 and the
Pentium chip in a lap top, the LX stays with me essentially for the PDA
functions.

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On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 00:13:54 -0800 Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
writes:
> http://www.lotus.com/home.nsf/framesets/home
>
>
Is this what you found or is there another mention?

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>When I was in the military in '81 I was using a top secret computer and,
>by accident, discovered how to break out of it's program to find a BASIC
>prompt.

I was in the Air Force in the mid 70's and we had a BIG teletype terminal to
the base's mainframe.  I learned that there was a instructional program on
it that tought BASIC.  Interesting when the only output or display device
you had was a 40 column printer.

>My first computer was a Timex/Sinclair 1000

I think this was my first commercial one too, with the 16K upgrade (or was
it just 8K).  About the same time I also had a small computer made by Mattel
(the toy company).  I can't remember its name though.  I really thought it
was better than the Sinclair but it sure didn't sell as well.  But, I guess
my first computer of all was the one I built in high school in the mid 60's
for a science fair.  It was made of spdt and dpdt switches with output to
light bulbs for a binary display.  Even built a card reader for it - a
grounded tin can wrapped in punched paper.  Brushes shorted across the holes
to get the input.  Ahhhh, the glory days!  I could add 3 plus 4 and it would
only take several minutes to get the answer "7".

Later,
bob

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>> Model 1 TRS-80 (laptop with nice keyboard, input a BASIC spreadsheet and
>> planned a kitchen on it)
>This was actually a Model 100.

I knew something was wrong, but I just couldn't remember... Our's here in
Norway were badged as Televerket/TRS-80. Imagine my surprise when searching
for my TRS-80 on the 'net 3-4 years ago and found a desk computer. Took some
digging to find the M100 as pictures were few between and the letters M100
were not found on the computer or in the docs, there is a page alive and
well catering for it though. I should have kept it to hook it up to my 200LX
because of the keyboard, but auctioned it off a month before... :-(

Saw someone mention printers... I got a printer for my C64 eventually. Now
there was a magazine (Practical Electronics?) that had a general scanner
project... One fed a picture in to a printer (dot matrix) and fixed a photo
transistor to the print head. The idea was to run a prog to step across the
page first reading reflected light values, then return and down one line. Do
it again for the whole page. One got basically an 80x70 (?) pixel bitmap.
Had to try that! :-) I seem to remember soldering it and reading values in
through the joystick port.

br

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Hi Bob,

>was better than the Sinclair but it sure didn't sell as well.  But, I guess
> my first computer of all was the one I built in high school in the mid
60's
> for a science fair.  It was made of spdt and dpdt switches with output to
> light bulbs for a binary display.  Even built a card reader for it - a
> grounded tin can wrapped in punched paper.  Brushes shorted across the
holes
> to get the input.  Ahhhh, the glory days!  I could add 3 plus 4 and it
would
> only take several minutes to get the answer "7".

Mmm, this is interesting. What logic did you use? Before the days of
RTL/DTL? I am asking because I have a telephone central with lots! of small
relays... I was wondering about chaining them together and building
something interesting, an adding machine would be fun. Something for my son,
maybe the relays clicking would hold his attention (mouse clicking does!).
It's 15+ years since I did Boolean algebra, Karnaugh maps and reductions
though... :-) Any websites floating around with relay fun?

br

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Date:         Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:25:38 +0100
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From John Vander Stel:

>I've had no experience with BASIC compilers, but some day when I have
>ample time, I'll like to re-write my program in ASIC and compile it so I
>can run it on my HP200LX.  It looks like I'd have to make a lot of
>changes to it, though, since it seems that ASIC cannot handle
>multi-dimensional arrays. :-(
>
>I raise my glass to all of the members of this elist and look forward to
>hearing about other's humble beginnings with computers. :-)

I developped thousands of very complicated programs.
My opinion is that the best compiler for the HP200LX
is QuickBasic *in its version 3* (QB3).
The versions 4 and 4.5 are *very* different.
The "scientific" functions (sin, cos, etc.) of version 4 and up
are slower and less reliable. Their editor is less comfortable.
*All* the programs, compiled with QB3, even with graphics
(provided they are in CGA) run on HP200LX.
The .EXE files are not big at all provided
you have BRUN30.EXE in your path (given by AUTOEXEC.BAT).

My pleasure, avec plaisir, Alphonse   URL: http://users.skynet.be/alphonse/
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Martin wrote:


>
> Yep the guy was you:-).. I think Lars misunderstood me offlist. I had
> no longer need to get a hold of Lotus and therefore we did not go
> through with anything..

I appearantly did.I thought you meant he never was heard of.

Not always so easy to understand norwegian,even for a swede:-)

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>I raise my glass to all of the members of this elist and
>look forward to hearing about other's humble beginnings with
>computers. :-)

I took a programming class in college while working on my physics degree and
swore afterwards that computers were for the birds.

- Longden (still flying with the flock after 20 years)

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I'm looking for some older Macintosh game software to that I can give my Mac
IIsi (2MB RAM, 40MB hard drive) to my toddler.  He really wants to use "his"
computer while I use mine.

Any recommendations on places to shop?  I've tried eBay and found some
software, but nothing in the toddler age range (2-3).

Thanks in advance,

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I had a commodore vic-20. It was cute but sooooo limited. I was actually
impressed with myself when I wrote a BASIC program that was too big for it
(probably more due to my crappy programming skills than the program's
complexity). I graduated to a C64 and was actually published in 'Compute!'s
Gazzette' magazine. The gazette was the C64 specific version of the
magazine. I wrote a simple program that copied the BASIC OS to RAM from ROM,
ran the OS from RAM and did some pokes to change the 'READY.' prompt to
'EDDIE.'. They titled it 'The Eddie Operating System'.

Ah, memories.

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On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:03:42 -0800 Steven Lawson
<stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM> writes:
> At the time I came across BSD Cribbage and started to port it, I also
> noticed an interesting program called "quiz".  It takes text files
with
> questions and answers and tests you.  The text files look easy to
create.
>
> This sounds ideal for the LX.  Is there something better already out
there
> with an open format? (especially something with source code?)

Check out Super Memo on Simtel.  It's freeware (at least up to version 4
or 5).   Maybe the authors
would be willing to release the code.

Domingo

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>I've had no experience with BASIC compilers, but some day when I have
>ample time, I'll like to re-write my program in ASIC and
>compile it so I
>can run it on my HP200LX.  It looks like I'd have to make a lot of
>changes to it, though, since it seems that ASIC cannot handle
>multi-dimensional arrays. :-(

Yeah it sure is limited but it creates really tiny executables. There are
libaries that make it better but I don't think that cures the MD array
issue. I'm sure that there are programming tricks to get around that
limitation.

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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu, 30 Dec 1999 12:52:23 -0500 (EST)

04h47m30s ago ...
On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Steve Novosad wrote:

> I got started with computers in school and have
> benn using them (more or less) ever since.

Sounds familiar...  Being an old (or middle aged) fogey, my first
experience with computers was using an IBM 1620 (go ahead - figure how
long ago THAT was...)  It was a room-full of desk-size (and larger)
consoles, with 10K - or amybe it was 20K of 4-bit magnetic core
memory. Loaded programs from punch-cards or punched paper tape.  The
big excitement was the addition of another 10K of memory (yep -
another desk-size console) and a disk drive (you guessed it!!)

> My first was a single board computer based on the
> Fairchild F8 chip.

Mine was a Timex-Sinclair with the 16K module.

> Writing for the F8 got me started with assembly
> language programming.

Learned Z80 assembly on the little beast, and eventually used the
Sinclair Basic interpreter as the basis for a home-brew machine with a
real monitor, 32K of RAM, 2 3.5" disk drives, and a 256K RAM disk.  The
whole thing (5" monitor, disk drives, and a switching power supply)
fit in an aluminum card cage, and used a surplus serial keyboard.  It
was "portable" - smaller and lighter than the Osbornes.  Lasted until
my first 100LX...  Still have it -- have to fire it up some day and
see if it still runs.


Later

Peniel
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Date:         Thu, 30 Dec 1999 19:58:09 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Franklin Eekhout wrote:

> Saw someone mention printers... I got a printer for my C64 eventually. Now
> there was a magazine (Practical Electronics?) that had a general scanner
> project... One fed a picture in to a printer (dot matrix) and fixed a photo
> transistor to the print head. The idea was to run a prog to step across the
> page first reading reflected light values, then return and down one line. Do
> it again for the whole page. One got basically an 80x70 (?) pixel bitmap.
> Had to try that! :-) I seem to remember soldering it and reading values in
> through the joystick port.

The Commodore 64 was a nice machine to hook up your own electronic
projects to. Lots of ports you could (ab)use - I've had LED displays, a
simple thermometor (via an NTC-resisitor hooked up to the paddle
controller in the joystick port) and a few other things hooked up to mine.

The German magazine '64er' at one time also had schematics for a scanner
that could be hooked up the a printer and the joystick port, but I think
this was later, 1990 or so. It had a somewhat higher resolution, at least
judging by the pictures in the magazine.

I never got around to actually building it and I probably wouldn't have
had the patience to type in the obligatory two pages of hex codes (which
were not hex codes at all, but something more efficient utilizing the
whole alphabet) either :-)

The first computer I used was probably an NCR Decision Mate V, running
CP/M, but I usually only used it for playing Ladder (which was an
excellent Donkey Kong-type game!) and dabbling with MS Basic :-)

The first computer that was my own was a ZX81 (Timex) clone called Lambda
3000 (I think). It was a ZX81 in every respect (down to the point where I
think they just copied the ZX81's ROMs and modified them as needed) except
it added "sound" via a tiny beeper and had rubber keys like the bigger
Sinclair Spectrum...

I must dig it up one of these days and see if it still works...


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Thu, 30 Dec 1999 11:32:35 -0800
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My comments below:

----- Original Message -----
From: Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 4:06 AM
Subject: Re: Beam me up, Scotty!


> > Have you seen the add where a woman gives her phone number to this guy on
> > another train via IR?
>
> No, but do the chances of Philippe meeting a LX-toting phone number-beaming
> young lady on the train one day warrant such a program? :-)

Hmm, perhaps something to actually receive the beam of a pilot? But my situation
is that I know many people who have an LX, so sharing information quickly would
be useful. But it doesn't need to be fancy, just beaming/receiving a string of
characters and put it in the clipboard would do just fine. This way it would be
really easy for me to give the record of any database to anyone, even to a palm
pilot person.

BTW, I saw this site that has "low-budget" add-ons for the Visor. Check it out
http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/handspring-modules-fun-review.html

I especially like the "notes-share" module...

> It's a good idea though, pity the LX isn't more widespread... Palmpilots and
> Magic Desks can do this can't they?

I believe so.

> Does the LXTCP package allow networking two LXs via IR? One can at least use
> ftp then. How about an IR two-player game?

Actually, it's easy to connect to another LX via IR through Filer and then
transfer files.

> It's almost easier/faster to just swap CF-cards when meeting people, I find.
> Just dump what I want to exchange or get in a \temp directory.

Philippe

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I still remember my friends and their TRS-80 Color Computer. They wanted to add
memory, and to do this, they actually *soldered* another memory ship on top of
the first one, following a magazine article. Don't ask me how it worked...

Philippe

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Date:         Thu, 30 Dec 1999 12:54:17 -0800
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Hi All,

For anybody looking for a 200LX, just found this post on the NG.

Good Luck!


--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: David Bainbridge <dkbnet@netnitco.net>
Subject: FS: HP200LX
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 19:49:25 -0600

For sale: HP200LX with books and belt case    $250



--- end of forwarded message ---




Regards,

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One of the superstitions about New Year's day claims that, if you carry
around something for the day, it will influence your life for the rest of
the year.  Some people carry a wad of cash. I plan to carry my Palmtop. I'm
not superstitious, but it never hurts to play it safe..

Anyway, have a safe and happy New Year, New Century, and New Millennium
(depending on your counting system.)
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Since the list is so tolerant on this topic, I'll pitch in my $0.02
worth.  My first programming experience was in high school, when I
was given an HP-25 calculator for Christmas.  The next year my folks
bought a TRS-80 Model II.  We had a friend who was a math professor,
and he was writing a textbook.  He paid me an hourly wage to program
up some incredibly complex formulas into the computer, and compute
their answers and tabulate them.  Some times this would run overnight!

In college we freshmen were forced to program the main campus computer
(some kind of huge CDC mainframe) on punched cards in FORTRAN.  Also,
at the ham radio club I rescued an old Commodore PET computer from the
trash and utilized it as a satellite antenna tracking controller for
talking to amateur satellites and the (then new) space shuttle.  We
later upgraded to the C64, and this effort became my senior project.

Since graduating, I purchased a Radio Shack PC-2 pocket computer, which
ran BASIC and had (amazingly) a 4-color pen printer/plotter.  I wrote
programs that plotted antenna radiation patterns on the plotter.  I
still have this little wonder and dig it out ocassionaly.  I think that
Sharp sold a nearly identical version of this computer - I even have the
detailed technical manuals for the computer and processor.

I flirted with the HP-48 series, until I decided that a calculator
should fit in my shirt pocket - if I wanted a computer, I would use
a computer.  Then I got my HP95LX, which I upgraded to a 200LX when
they came out.  My latest acquisition to my collection is an old
"pocket" computer called the Curta.  This mechanical wonder does
4-function arithmetic, plus with some ingenious algorithms you can
extract roots and such.  Then there's the slide rule colection, but
that's even too far off topic for this thread.

I also have the obligatory desktop and laptop computers
running MS operating systems, but they aren't nearly as fun.

Happy New Year!

-Chris Lott

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Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc.
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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 01:37:32 +0100
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On 30 Dec 1999 07:50:07 -0800, Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE> wrote:

> Martin wrote:
>
> >
> > Yep the guy was you:-).. I think Lars misunderstood me offlist. I had
> > no longer need to get a hold of Lotus and therefore we did not go
> > through with anything..
>
> I appearantly did.I thought you meant he never was heard of.
>
> Not always so easy to understand norwegian,even for a swede:-)

You are not the only one having problems understanding norwegian over
there in Sweden :-)) (Remember RosenKark/Telianor?:-))

(For others on list: We have had a big merger going on between two
telecommunicationcompanies: Telenor (Norway) and Telia (Sweden). It did
not go through and the politicians of both countries are to blame)

--
Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway
-Palmtop friendly sig...

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I have just gotten my hplx back from upgrade. I am now back on the list
with "full power"..

I have some questions concerning my ds 8 meg and mainly connecting it
to the internet:

1. Is there any point in "tuning"(reducing size) of the Hv.cfg file? I
start first www and then Post/lx. I can start hv from the External menu
in Post/lx. I have reduced the post.cfg file to get Hv to work.
(Post.cfg=6589 (was 7500), www.cfg=1188, hv.cfg=2703)

2. How can I start www.exe and keep it running and then run whatever
(hv, post, telnet, ftp (micq?) without the connection being terminated
when I end let's say a hv session? What have I missed? Do I have to
"install" them all in External in Post/lx?

3. Is there a "dummies" setup guide to use Whitby's internettools and
do what I want to do in 2.? I will get me a ethernetcard soon.

More questions to come (I have been away for too long :-)

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..here is more..

4. I have a Psion Dacom V34 Gold Card V34+Fax. When I insert it I get
"Card battery low" This is normal? I can kill this message with killmsg
without getting into problems?

5. Does anyone know how much power this card draws? I have not been
able to find any info on this on web.

6. I can get a 38.4kbps connection without problems with my isp. But
will it be any faster than a 19.2kbps? I suspect it to be slower when
running "fast" than slow.. I know the limit is 19.2 kbps for a ds
machine will this result in it "feeling" slower"

7. Because this is fax modem I of course wants to use it's fax
cababilities. What software is the best?
..and the last one..

8. Is there anybody that use Volkon with a ds machine? I can not get
the Alt+F1 to work. If I want to choose another drive for the left
window I have to use the menues. I have used the patch. Maybe the patch
screws something up in the vc.com code?

9. I will buy some Ni-Mh batteries soon. How should I charge them?

Well thats about it.

Thanks in advance

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Date:         Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:02:55 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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> Does anyone know if Riziko is still being supported?

The link to the Riziko homepage is:
http://www.evt.bme.hu/~gergo/100lx/

Hopefully, you can find some answers here...

 -Mike http://games.hplx.net

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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 03:59:44 +0100
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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I use Smmlx ver. 1.00b and I have problems sometimes that it chrashes.
Therefor I have to boot the hplx sometime with Ctrl-Alt-Del and
sometime with Ctrl-Shift-On.

I want to run a macro or something when entering Applicationmanager
after a boot. I want to close Filer. I also want to open the System
Macro utility and close it again to get the macros visible on the line.

This is something that I always need to do manually when I have booted.

Can this be done? I would also appriciate any tips on getting Smmlx
more stable. It often chrashes when I edit or add new programs. I use
Smmlx 1.00b and Mml 1.5. Is there newer versions out there?

Can anything be done with my config.sys to make it more stable? Here it
is:

files=50
buffers=10
stacks=9,256
device=a:\progs\jam\jam.sys /M=2
device=a:\usr\spd31.exe
device=a:\progs\jam\jmount.com a:\pack2
device=a:\progs\jam\jmount.com c:\pack1
shell=d:\dos\command.com /p d:\dos
Lastdrive=G

Thanks in advance

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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 04:36:06 +0100
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Sorry for bombarding the list with so many questions.

When I am online with www/lx and Post/Lx it can freeze for a few
seconds and then I can move the "cursor" between the folders again. Why
is this happening? Is the cpu busy with the modem connection or what?

I get this problem when I run www/lx both on the hplx with a V34 pcmcia
modem and using palrun on a Pentium 133 laptop. But only when I am
online.

TIA

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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 00:36:39 -0800
Reply-To:     camba1@pacbell.net
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From:         BOB1 <camba1@PACBELL.NET>
Subject:      Selling One of my HP200LX'S
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Hello all LX'S:



I have (3) HP200LX'S I have to sell one (keep my wife happy,smile) the

one I am selling:



5MB,double speed (upgraded by Thaddeus Computing,they did an excellent

job)connectivity



pack,ABC/LX Software per installed,manuals and disk. ALSO hp200lx

manuals (good

condition)a/c adapter, (4) Pack NiMH Batteries the ones Thaddeus

Computing sells



Asking $200.00 (Oh! I forgot I will pay for shipping)



                               Hope to here from you that are interested



                                      Bob

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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 09:55:18 +0100
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Ed,

> One of the superstitions about New Year's day claims that, if you carry
> around something for the day, it will influence your life for the rest =
of
> the year.  Some people carry a wad of cash. I plan to carry my Palmtop. =
I'm
> not superstitious, but it never hurts to play it safe..
>
> Anyway, have a safe and happy New Year, New Century, and New Millennium
> (depending on your counting system.)

I like this story.

Safe and Happy New Year to you and thank you very much for all your
efforts and hints.


Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 01:01:21 -0800
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              Chris <cyeager@CALWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Selling One of my HP200LX'S
Comments: To: BOB1 <camba1@pacbell.net>
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Bob you sure have popped the price war and quality level of these darn old
but functional tech boxes.... I have one and like it... But it must be
time to move on..

On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, BOB1 wrote
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 00:36:39 -0800
> From: BOB1 <camba1@pacbell.net>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Selling One of my HP200LX'S
>
> Hello all LX'S:
>
>
>
> I have (3) HP200LX'S I have to sell one (keep my wife happy,smile) the
>
> one I am selling:
>
>
>
> 5MB,double speed (upgraded by Thaddeus Computing,they did an excellent
>
> job)connectivity
>
>
>
> pack,ABC/LX Software per installed,manuals and disk. ALSO hp200lx
>
> manuals (good
>
> condition)a/c adapter, (4) Pack NiMH Batteries the ones Thaddeus
>
> Computing sells
>
>
>
> Asking $200.00 (Oh! I forgot I will pay for shipping)
>
>
>
>                                Hope to here from you that are interested
>
>
>
>                                       Bob
>
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>

____________________
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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 11:24:55 +0100
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              Feher Tamas <etomcat@EGON.GYALOGLO.HU>
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From:         Feher Tamas <etomcat@EGON.GYALOGLO.HU>
Subject:      My first computer: we all must be sick!

Hello LXers,

The first computer I used was a Sinclair ZX81. This high-
tech device was smuggled into Hungary by the staff of
Orion, the TV manufacturing company, where my mother used
to work. In the early 80's Hungary, as a WARPAC country
was fully COCOM listed and almost no electronics could
be exported to us legally (IBM was somewhat of exception)

This ZX81 had external 16KB memory expansion, but the
contacts were so bad, that it freeze every now and then.
As you could only save to/load from audio tape, noone
dared to use the expansion and the machine was limited
to 1KB. It also had a small thermal printer, nice one.

Problem was, if you used both add-ons, printer must have
been attached IN BETWEEN the computer and the 16K add-on,
so you could not solder in the ram expansion box solving
contact error crashes.

Zero-travel foil keys went wrong gradually and this rende-
red the machine useless because of the unique basic langu-
age shortcut system it used. I couldn't find a replacement
keyboard so far. I still have the machine in my collection.

I tend to think that IBM PC rulez, probably the best thing
20th century brought. Also, it is likely that we, HPLX-L
members, are all sick to speak about "my first computer"
at the dawn of 2000.

If we think Y2K problem will end the computer age, we
should speak about ball&wires "calculator" used in Russia.
If we think Y2K hysteria is unfounded, we may speak about
iPIII-700 and WinCE, but ROM-BASIC and DOS, blah...

Have a happy new Year2000!      Regards: Tamas Feher

____________________________________________________________
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Date:         Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:16:12 +1100
Reply-To:     "leon.phillips@netspeed.com.au" <leon.phillips@netspeed.com.au>
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From:         Leon Phillips <leon.phillips@NETSPEED.COM.AU>
Subject:      Happy New Year this New Millenium

Happy New Year to the HPLX List server.    Down here in Australia we have just heralded in the new year.

Leon Phillips

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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 08:23:28 -0800
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              Bill Sprague <eugarps@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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Leon,

Happy New Year to you too.  Any Y2K bugs show up for the party?

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: "Leon Phillips" <leon.phillips@NETSPEED.COM.AU>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 5:16 AM
Subject: Happy New Year this New Millenium


> Happy New Year to the HPLX List server.    Down here in Australia we have
just heralded in the new year.
>
> Leon Phillips
>
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Date:         Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:29:55 +1100
Reply-To:     "leon.phillips@netspeed.com.au" <leon.phillips@netspeed.com.au>
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From:         Leon Phillips <leon.phillips@NETSPEED.COM.AU>
Subject:      Re: Happy New Year this New Millenium
Comments: To: Bill Sprague <eugarps@worldnet.att.net>

No, at this stage nothing in Aus and nothing in NZ (which is a few hours
ahead of us).   I think the whole thing was a bit of a beatup but time will
tell.   There are still a few more timezones to go, especially GMT.

Leon

-----Original Message-----
From:   Bill Sprague SMTP:eugarps@worldnet.att.net
Sent:   Saturday, 1 January 2000 3:23
To:     leon.phillips@netspeed.com.au; HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re:      Happy New Year this New Millenium

Leon,

Happy New Year to you too.  Any Y2K bugs show up for the party?

Bill

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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 14:41:04 +0100
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              Alphonse POUPLIER <alphonse.pouplier@SKYNET.BE>
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Subject:      DOUBLE SPEED
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Hello to all!

Sorry for that question but I'm very new on your list.

Could you explain me what "double speed" means?

I use on a HP200LX with a PCMCIA card 16 Meg many
DOS-Programs (compiled with QBasic) with a lot of
"scientific" functions and it's indead very slow...

My pleasure, avec plaisir, Alphonse   URL: http://users.skynet.be/alphonse/
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Fri, 31 Dec 1999 08:23:36 -0500 (EST)

Greetings:

   Happy Y2K to All!

   The Computer Facilities here at the the University will be shut down
   from 11:30pm(12/31/99) to 4:00am(1/1/00) so HPLX-L will be off-line
   then.

   Best Regards,

*
* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 08:34:07 -0600
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From:         Evan Griffing <e-griffing@NWU.EDU>
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Hi,

I wanted to test a modem card which I put into
the lx200.

When I put it in, there was no notification
that the card was put in.  the command
cic100 /gen 1 was in the autoexec.bat file.
I reentered it just in case and then put
the card in, and still nothing.

I started datacomm, with the intention of
sending the command 'at' to the modem.
The problem is, I can't type in anything
at the prompt in datacom!  I can change
the settings, and attempt a connect, but
no typing at the prompt.  Am I supposed
to do anything special to do this?

Thanks,

Evan

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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 10:04:07 -0500
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From:         Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
Subject:      Re: DOUBLE SPEED
Comments: To: Alphonse POUPLIER <alphonse.pouplier@SKYNET.BE>
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>
> Sorry for that question but I'm very new on your list.
>
> Could you explain me what "double speed" means?
>


It means that you upgrade your LX from 8Mhz to 16Mhz.

It is quite cheap too.

I take it you live in Europe,go to the site:www.rundel-d.com

and read more about it.

Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 10:14:43 -0500
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: DOUBLE SPEED
Comments: cc: alphonse.pouplier@SKYNET.BE

   >Could you explain me what "double speed" means?
Message-Id: <19991231151444.ILH1914@12.72.155.183>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:14:44 +0000

Double speed refers to a hardware upgrade to the clock speed crystal for
the system.  Normal speed is about 7mhz and upgrade takes it to about
15mhz.  The most dramatic effect is on screen refreshes, but just about
everything runs faster.

The downside is a slight degradation in battery life (about 15 percent),
tho it's debatable that this could be compensated by things finishing
faster than before.

   >I use on a HP200LX with a PCMCIA card 16 Meg many
   >DOS-Programs (compiled with QBasic) with a lot of
   >"scientific" functions and it's indead very slow...

I'd look into a speed and memory upgrade then, if I were in your shoes.

Hal Goldstein (of Thaddeus) or one of the European members can maybe
refresh my memory on who does the upgrades over in your area.

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 10:14:50 -0500
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: datacomm
Comments: To: e-griffing@nwu.edu

   >I wanted to test a modem card which I put into the lx200.  When I put
   >it in, there was no notification that the card was put in.  the command
   >cic100 /gen 1 was in the autoexec.bat file.  I reentered it just in
   >case and then put the card in, and still nothing.  I started datacomm,
   >with the intention of sending the command 'at' to the modem.  The
   >problem is, I can't type in anything at the prompt in datacom!  I can
   >change the settings, and attempt a connect, but no typing at the
   >prompt.  Am I supposed to do anything special to do this?
Message-Id: <19991231151451.ILW1914@12.72.155.183>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:14:51 +0000

It's been a while since I've tried, but I think the behavior is normal.

I believe the default settings may be "no echo", and you may have to enter
(blind) the command

     AT E1

Then press Enter.  This enables echo so you can see what you're typing from
this point on.  I don't have a PCMCIA modem on me at the moment, but I'm
sure another member will correct me if I'm wrong.

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 08:40:07 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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I tend to hold off until I can get the features I want for the right price.

First "computer" was the HP25. In the 49 steps, I programmed all my Fortran
exercises done 10 years previously in college. They gave the right results.
Amazing!

Then when I saw the Macintosh was going to have Fortran and I could do
drafting without having to spend $8K for an IBM with Autocad, I bought a 512K
Mac. Helped another guy upgrade his 128K Mac to 512K by unsoldering the 64K
chips on the 4 layer board and replacing them with 256K chips, at a cost of
$25 each or total cost of $800 per meg. At 512K, I could run Fortran in a
ramdisk faster than the guys who eventually got hard drives. I still have
that machine with another 512K boarded added on.

My first IBM compatible was a Toshiba 1200F laptop (still here in the
basement) purchased to do a commercial  real estate program for the TRS100.
Never panned out. The Toshiba was sort of like a big LX, had 2MB configured
like the LX and retains memory when turned off. The Toshiba was basically the
end of my Mac days as it was much easier to program and being a minimalist
(still am) could care less about the graphics. ASCII is enough! But then I
won't talk about my desktop and OB800CT.

Bob

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Date:         Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:42:30 +0100
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Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:
>
> <clip>
> Have you seen the add where a woman gives her phone number to
> this guy on
> another train via IR?
>

Dream on... <g>

Ulrich Boche

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Date:         Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:13:09 +0100
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Sidney Ho <SKYHO@CSI.COM> wrote:
> ...
> According to German
> TV, the highest gust was recorded at 171.5 mph/276 kmh.
>
That seems a bit exaggerated. According to radio and TV reports
here, the highest gust was recorded by the weather station on
the "Feldberg", the highest mountain in the Black Forest at
215 km/h (133.6 mph). That's bad enough and the damage is
extensive; more trees are damaged than from the big storm we
had in 1990.

At our place, the wind velocity was around 155 km/h which
uprooted quite a few trees and sent lots of shindles down,
especially from old buildings. Fortunately, we've had no
damage apart from a few flower pots that fell down and broke
and a lot of dirt in the garden.

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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 11:33:26 -0500
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              Ian Gifford <gifford@IBM.NET>
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Santa dropped off another HP 200LX DS/8MB unit (thanks Thaddeus) and I
have a question on usage.  Now that I have two (2) LX's are there any
list members using two (2) LX's on a daily basis?  Why?  What are the
applications primarily driving the need for two (2) units?

I use Communication apps e.g., Post/LX, Datacom+PINE, WyndMail (Packet
Radio), etc. but do not use a task swapper.  This app. is the only
reason I can see for carrying two (2) LX's.  That is one for PIMs, etc.
the other for Comms.  I am constantly changing the following hardware:

HW PC Card II
-SanDisk 40MB (PIMs)
-MHz Model XJ1144 (RJ11C MODEM)
-MHz Model NJ18000R (MOBITEX MODEM)

On a side note I am a frustrated Programmer and I suspect I could
finally have the room to load my copies of MS C, Assembler, CodeView,
Borland C, C+, Pascal, etc.

The converse usage question is what is the best storage method for a
backup LX?  Remove both batteries as well as the backup and put on a
shelf?

Any inputs will be appreciated.

BTW this list is one of the best!  Thanks for an informative 1999 and I
look forward to 2000.

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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 09:23:06 -0500
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Franklin Eekhout writes:
>
> Found my first internet invoice the other day, was it 1993? I was among the
> first private people to get internet access when Oslonett started up, before
> that one had to be enrolled at a university or something.

I was on Delphi in 1993 and switched to my current ISP the following
year.


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Evan Griffing writes:
>
>                               the command
> cic100 /gen 1 was in the autoexec.bat file.
> I reentered it just in case and then put
> the card in, and still nothing.

Is d:\bin in your path, and if not did you add it
to the command line?


> I started datacomm, with the intention of
> sending the command 'at' to the modem.
> The problem is, I can't type in anything
> at the prompt in datacom!

This is the behavior I get if the modem is not in the
PCMCIA slot--probably the same if the driver is not
loaded.  As near as I can tell, the local commands
echo by default, contrary to Longden's guess.  I think
perhaps the local echo is off by default *when online*.

Sounds like the card driver is not really loading.  You
should get a message when it loads describing the driver.

Ted

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Subject:      Re: Usage Models for two HP 200LX?
Comments: cc: gifford@IBM.NET

   >there any list members using two (2) LX's on a daily basis?  Why?
Message-Id: <19991231170431.HQMC10418@12.72.155.216>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 17:04:31 +0000

Not I.  This would have to be a person who LX's for a living.

   >the only reason I can see for carrying two (2) LX's.  That is one
   >for PIMs, etc. the other for Comms.  I am constantly changing the
   >following hardware:
   >HW PC Card II
   >-SanDisk 40MB (PIMs)
   >-MHz Model XJ1144 (RJ11C MODEM)
   >-MHz Model NJ18000R (MOBITEX MODEM)

If you're using the modems at the same locations (ie, work and home), I'd
suggest looking into some cheap pocket modems to replace the PCMCIA's so
you could just plug into the LX serial and leave your 40MB card alone.

   >On a side note I am a frustrated Programmer

I haven't reached any levels of illumination as a programmer either <g>.

   >The converse usage question is what is the best storage method for a
   >backup LX?  Remove both batteries as well as the backup and put on a
   >shelf?

My backup is in the drawer.  I take it out every month or so to charge it,
but there's no reason not to do as you suggest and just let it sit dead.

If both are identical, it may help to occasionally alternate the units to
even the wear and tear... this may also help to uncover problems in the
backup unit before you have an urgent need for it.

- Longden

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Martin wrote:

>
> 9. I will buy some Ni-Mh batteries soon. How should I charge them?
>

I charge my Mi-Mh batteries in a charger I bought for 15 dollars.It works =
great.

The biggest batteries I have found in Sweden is on 1500mAh.


Your Vikingfellow:-)

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And you still exist. There's hope yet!

Larry Mittell

At 05:16 AM 12/31/1999 , Leon Phillips wrote:
>Happy New Year to the HPLX List server.    Down here in Australia we have just heralded in the new year.

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Hello LX users!

Today I will brake the fluffrules,I think it is OK a day like this.

If you give it a second thought,how amazing isn't this Internettechnology!

Here we are on different places on the earth,still communicating with =
each other like we sat in the same place.

And only ten years ago no one had heard of Internet.

No use trying to predict what will happen in another ten years,consequentl=
y!

I will soon be off  to a party,the time is 7:10 pm in the evening,and =
wish you all a Happy New Year and, ofcourse:Millennium!


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Al Kind wrote:

Greetings:

   Happy Y2K to All!

Happy New Year, Uncle Al and thanks for your great work over the past year.

Bill

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>I had a panoramic view of the storm blowing over the Lake of Lucerne

Do you live in Switzerland? So Andreas and me are not the last helvetic
LX users?

>Global warming will make unusual storms more regular and a lot worse!

It was the worst storm for 250 years in Switzerland

-goe-

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Howdy, ya'll;
Although my computer history doesn't go back as far as a lot of the
geeks (I use that term in a positive way) on this list, you might find
it interesting:

In high school the only computers that students had available were some
"maim"frame-type beasts in the Computer Science Career Development
Center.  I was into Architecture then, so I ignored them.  After
graduation I spent a year-and-a-half in the San Jose, California area
and had a friend there whose dad worked for IBM and he had recently
brought home a new thing called a "PC".  I played Adventure on it and
was immediatly hooked!  Although I STILL haven't figured out that
stinkin' game!

I went back home to Texas and worked at whatever I could find for a
while and then moved to Utah.  My roommate had a Mac Plus that I played
with and soon learned it and got bored with it.  Another roommate had an
Apple e (the "portable" one?) that I played with for awhile and found
it more interesting because I could program it and tell it what to do.
(Even though I don't really enjoy programming.)

Well, shortly after that I got married and our first major purchase was
a 286 with 640K of RAM, a 60 MB hard drive (that we though we'd never
fill up!), an EGA display and both 5.25' and 3.5" floppy drives.
Perfect for two college students. I sure glad I learned WordPerfect 5.0
then! We sold that computer and got a Toshiba T1000 laptop with 3.5"
floppy drive, 2 MB RAM and CGA display.  BIG MISTAKE!  The hard disk
drive is a wonderful invention!

Anyway, I kept that for a while after we got our 386 - 25MHz, with 640K,
VGA and an 80 MB hard drive and 14.4 modem.  I have gradually upgraded
that machine until the present Pentuim 166 MMX with SVGA (4 MB Video
RAM), 10 GB hard drive (we'll NEVER fill that up, will we!), 24x CDROM,
33.6 modem, etc.  We are saving our pennies for a new machine soon. Kids
cost more that computers do...  I sold the Toshiba a couple of years ago
in a garage sale for $20!  Have two desktop machines (one for the
parents, one for the kids), a 486 laptop (For Sale?), and the 200lx!

In 1995 I discovered the 200lx and HAD to have one, it was SO COOL!  An
actual computer a could carry around, without getting bursitis!  I was
sending phone lists and memos to my pager as text messages so I could
use it as a PDA, too. (Sort of like the Franklin Rex) Once I got my
200lx the pager was replaced with a cell phone!  Someone called my 200lx
"your Rolodex" once and I got defensive and showed him the all things it
could really do; he was genuinely impressed!  I have rarely been bored
with the 200lx since, when I do start to get bored with it, somebody
comes up with something new!  My employer has "issued" me a 3Com Palm
III, but I was bored with it in about a day!  Now it's just another
tool.  But the 200lx is my baby!  Maybe someday I'll do some programming
- maybe.

Regards,
Richard

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Hello all

New Zealand had no reported Y2k problems reported so far except
severe overloading of the phone system after midnight (I couldnt send
via cellphone & 200lx) and supermarkets being sold out of batteries,
candles, water etc on the afternoon of the 24th.

If your Govt/Businesses are at the same preparedness as here there
shoud be no Y2K problems

Enjoy your New Year celebrations

Regards
John Shaw
Wellington New Zealand



Leon Phillips wrote:
> No, at this stage nothing in Aus and nothing in NZ (which is a few hours
> ahead of us).   I think the whole thing was a bit of a beatup but time will
> tell.   There are still a few more timezones to go, especially GMT.
>
> Leon

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Sure you are OK?
 The date on your msg was Feb 23, 1999, ha!
Bryan

John wrote:
>
> Hello all
>
> New Zealand had no reported Y2k problems reported so far except
> severe overloading of the phone system after midnight (I couldnt send
> via cellphone & 200lx) and supermarkets being sold out of batteries,
> candles, water etc on the afternoon of the 24th.
>
> If your Govt/Businesses are at the same preparedness as here there
> shoud be no Y2K problems
>
> Enjoy your New Year celebrations
>
> Regards
> John Shaw
> Wellington New Zealand
>
> Leon Phillips wrote:
> > No, at this stage nothing in Aus and nothing in NZ (which is a few hours
> > ahead of us).   I think the whole thing was a bit of a beatup but time will
> > tell.   There are still a few more timezones to go, especially GMT.
> >
> > Leon
>
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On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 04:36:06 +0100, Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
wrote:

> When I am online with www/lx and Post/Lx it can freeze for a few
> seconds and then I can move the "cursor" between the folders again. Why
> is this happening? Is the cpu busy with the modem connection or what?
>
> I get this problem when I run www/lx both on the hplx with a V34 pcmcia
> modem and using palrun on a Pentium 133 laptop. But only when I am
> online.

I am not sure what you are asking. Where is the problem? Is
this a problem?

Happy New Year,

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Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM> wrote on 31 Dec 1999 01:37:34
+0100:

> 1. Is there any point in "tuning"(reducing size) of the Hv.cfg file? I
> start first www and then Post/lx. I can start hv from the External menu
> in Post/lx. I have reduced the post.cfg file to get Hv to work.
> (Post.cfg=6589 (was 7500), www.cfg=1188, hv.cfg=2703)

Probably. I suspect that when the HV.CFG file comes into
memory it stays there, but I am not 100% sure.

> 2. How can I start www.exe and keep it running and then run whatever
> (hv, post, telnet, ftp (micq?) without the connection being terminated
> when I end let's say a hv session? What have I missed? Do I have to
> "install" them all in External in Post/lx?

In WWWSETUP.EXE, in SETUP there is a question what program
to launch. The default is HV.EXE. You probably override it
by using the command

www "!post"

You can also override it to

www "!d:\dos\command.com"

Which will give you another instance of DOS under WWW.EXE.
Then you can type POST at the command line or FTP or
whatever. When you quit FTP remember - you are still
connected with WWW.EXE! When you type EXIT on the command
line you will exit WWW.EXE.

> 3. Is there a "dummies" setup guide to use Whitby's internettools and
> do what I want to do in 2.? I will get me a ethernetcard soon.

Wrong subject - it is not WWW/LX related :-) ...

Happy New Year!

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Ted,

Thanks for the help.

Is there a faq or something to get a better
understanding of what is supposed to happen?
The book isn't that helpful.

 > Sounds like the card driver is not really loading.  You
 > should get a message when it loads describing the driver.

Do I need to put a specific driver in for
a modem, or does a generic driver load for
standard modems?

 > Is d:\bin in your path, and if not did you add it
 > to the command line?
yes, it is.  the command is issued, and i get
a response, that it is already running, and
the options have been changed.

 > > I started datacomm, with the intention of
 > > sending the command 'at' to the modem.
 > > The problem is, I can't type in anything
 > > at the prompt in datacom!
 >
 > This is the behavior I get if the modem is not in the
 > PCMCIA slot--probably the same if the driver is not
 > loaded.  As near as I can tell, the local commands
 > echo by default, contrary to Longden's guess.  I think
 > perhaps the local echo is off by default *when online*.

evan

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It seems to me that there has been some wisdom on our list regarding a BIG
problem that's just raised it's ugly head in my HP200LX.
I've looked in the archives to no avail.

My hplx is suddenly giving me the "MAIN BATTERY VERY LOW" message and show
the "gas gauge" as empty on a continual basis even though the batteries are
definitely good.  This even happens when its on the external adapter!
"Setup" even indicates that it is aware that the adapter is in use, but,
still insists that it reports "MAIN BATTERY VERY LOW", "gas gauge" empty,
and shuts down upon "ESC" pressed!

Can any of the "HPLX Gurus" on the list let me know what's going on and how
to get back to reality?

                                TIA and regards...
                                                                   Tony   :
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On 23 Dec 1999, Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> wrote:

> Vic,
> You have that backwards; I get the F: drive because E: already exists.
> The question is WHY does E: exist at all?  I can only assume HP created
> the E: drive as part of the DOS kernal because it gets created BEFORE
> the config.sys is run.
>
> The Alternate Boot options allow for NOT using any config.sys (and
> autoexec.bat) while booting.  If you try this you'll find that the E:
> drive has been defined (although it can't be read).  This means it is
> part of the core LX rom and not something the user caused to be created.

I stand corrected. You are absolutely correct. Perhaps HP built
E: into the ROM version of DOS to make it easier for us to
redirect A: to E: using SUBST or ASSIGN.

Vic

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Date:         Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:46:41 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Lars Hedstroem wrote:


> I will soon be off to a party,the time is 7:10 pm in the evening,and
> wish you all a Happy New Year and, ofcourse:Millennium!

Well, no millennium until next year if you ask me, but at least you could
spell it right...


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:57:58 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> Well, no millennium until next year if you ask me, but at least you
> could spell it right...

If you ask me, that's a good thing.  We get to celebrate the new
millennium two years in a row and fight about it the whole time.  <g>

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Date:         Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:46:51 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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With the modem in the slot and cic loaded try ATDT999-9999 and see if you hear dialing or something happens.

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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:52:49 -0500
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!...   sudden and hard failure on 200LX
Comments: cc: bravhart@CGOCABLE.NET

   >regarding a BIG problem that's just raised it's ugly head in my
   >HP200LX. I've looked in the archives to no avail.
   >My hplx is suddenly giving me the "MAIN BATTERY VERY LOW" message
   >and show the "gas gauge" as empty on a continual basis even though
   >the batteries are definitely good.  This even happens when its on
   >the external adapter! "Setup" even indicates that it is aware that
   >the adapter is in use, but, still insists that it reports "MAIN
   >BATTERY VERY LOW", "gas gauge" empty, and shuts down upon "ESC"
   >pressed!
Message-Id: <20000101005250.LZQT10418@12.72.154.188>
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:52:50 +0000

Maybe something in memory is corrupted.  I think some postings indicated
misleading battery level problems that were fixed only by draining the
system (remove AA's and backup lithium, press the On key for 30-60 sec to
drain) and then powering back up again.

Of course, backup your data before this, since all of C drive gets hosed.

There's apparently some data maintained in parts of memory that persists
even thru reboots, and this is the only way to clear it out, if it goes
bad. Worth a try if all else fails.  Good luck.

- Longden

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Date:         Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:58:11 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!...   sudden and hard failure on 200LX
Comments: To: bravhart mail <bravhart@CGOCABLE.NET>
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> It seems to me that there has been some wisdom on our list regarding a BIG
> problem that's just raised it's ugly head in my HP200LX.
> I've looked in the archives to no avail.
>
> My hplx is suddenly giving me the "MAIN BATTERY VERY LOW" message and show

Try the hard reset:

Ctrl_LEFTSHIFT_on, all pressed at the same time.

Other option - take out all batteries and press the ON key, dissipating
any capacitor.  Some say leave all batteries out for 24 hours.

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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 20:17:08 -0600
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject:      Fwd: Re: Client for eBay  (KMM7567211C0KM)
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Here what I received back from eBay when asking them if they could =
provide
technical info if someone wanted to design a 200LX client that would work
with their services in case anyone wants to write a LX based eBay client.

Jeff

--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 09:23:50 -0800
To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@scott.net>
Subject: Re: Client for eBay  (KMM7567211C0KM)
From: eBay Customer Support <Support@eBay.com>

Hello Jeff!

Thanks for writing!

This is the email address for the people who wrote it for the Palm VII.

jobs@workspot.com

I don't have any easy access to the specifications, especially since
most of the people are off on holiday.

If you can't get the information from them email us back and we'll
contact our engineering team to see what we can do.

If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Happy New Year's Eve!

Regards,

James P. S.
eBay Customer Support
______________________________
eBay
Your Personal Trading Community (tm)

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Date:         Sat, 1 Jan 2000 03:23:36 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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Posted here in case anyone's interested in a 95LX.

-Laust

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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:44:18 -0500
From: Eric Gonzalez <gonzo77@bellsouth.net>
To: 95lx@palmtop.net
Cc: ergo77@bell.south.net
Subject: sale 95 lx

if you want my unsused 95 lx make offer will sell to higest bidder is in
working order has printer cable . bought new .sold as is .how much is it
worth?

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Date:         Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:27:53 +1100
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              Paul Johnson <paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU>
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From:         Paul Johnson <paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU>
Subject:      Re: Fluff: My first Computer
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> >When I was in the military in '81 I was using a top secret computer and,
> >by accident, discovered how to break out of it's program to find a BASIC
> >prompt.
>
> I was in the Air Force in the mid 70's and we had a BIG teletype terminal to
> the base's mainframe.  I learned that there was a instructional program on
> it that tought BASIC.  Interesting when the only output or display device
> you had was a 40 column printer.
>
> >My first computer was a Timex/Sinclair 1000
>
> I think this was my first commercial one too, with the 16K upgrade (or was
> it just 8K).  About the same time I also had a small computer made by Mattel
> (the toy company).  I can't remember its name though.  I really thought it
> was better than the Sinclair but it sure didn't sell as well.  But, I guess

Would that be an Aquarius ? I had one of them.

> my first computer of all was the one I built in high school in the mid 60's
> for a science fair.  It was made of spdt and dpdt switches with output to
> light bulbs for a binary display.  Even built a card reader for it - a
> grounded tin can wrapped in punched paper.  Brushes shorted across the holes
> to get the input.  Ahhhh, the glory days!  I could add 3 plus 4 and it would
> only take several minutes to get the answer "7".
>
> Later,
> bob
>

I'm impressed !

Happy New Year, Paul.

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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 18:40:56 -0800
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              Chris <cyeager@CALWEB.COM>
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From:         Chris <cyeager@CALWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fluff: My first Computer
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Good old Timex Sinclare,, I started there also.. Then Atari 400 ect...

On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Paul Johnson wrote:


> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:27:53 +1100
> From: Paul Johnson <paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU>
> Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
     Paul Johnson <paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Fluff: My first Computer
>
> > >When I was in the military in '81 I was using a top secret computer and,
> > >by accident, discovered how to break out of it's program to find a BASIC
> > >prompt.
> >
> > I was in the Air Force in the mid 70's and we had a BIG teletype terminal to
> > the base's mainframe.  I learned that there was a instructional program on
> > it that tought BASIC.  Interesting when the only output or display device
> > you had was a 40 column printer.
> >
> > >My first computer was a Timex/Sinclair 1000
> >
> > I think this was my first commercial one too, with the 16K upgrade (or was
> > it just 8K).  About the same time I also had a small computer made by Mattel
> > (the toy company).  I can't remember its name though.  I really thought it
> > was better than the Sinclair but it sure didn't sell as well.  But, I guess
>
> Would that be an Aquarius ? I had one of them.
>
> > my first computer of all was the one I built in high school in the mid 60's
> > for a science fair.  It was made of spdt and dpdt switches with output to
> > light bulbs for a binary display.  Even built a card reader for it - a
> > grounded tin can wrapped in punched paper.  Brushes shorted across the holes
> > to get the input.  Ahhhh, the glory days!  I could add 3 plus 4 and it would
> > only take several minutes to get the answer "7".
> >
> > Later,
> > bob
> >
>
> I'm impressed !
>
> Happy New Year, Paul.
>
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Date:         Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:42:10 -0700
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              Bob Christopher <bc@CHISP.NET>
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Subject:      Pre-purchase questions
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I will be ordering a new HP 200LX in the next few days. Before I do I have
posed a few questions off list to some of you asking for clarification on
specs and advise in general. Thank you one and all for your support.

One thing I am wondering about is the Iomega Click PCMCIA II card disk
with interchangeable 40mb disks. This would seem to be the ideal companion
for mass storage on the 200LX. I went and looked at it today and noted that
the requirements on the box stated Windows 95/98 OS and that the drivers
for the unit were on a CD-ROM in the package. Has anyone inquired of Iomega
if they have or will have a DOS 5.0 driver setup so that the Click can be used
on older laptops and palmtops? Has anyone tried to get one of these units
and running on the 200LX? Any reports? Thanks and Happy New Year one and all.

  Bob

Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
email mailto:bc@chisp.net          website http://chisp.net/~bc

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