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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:17:49 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu,  1 Apr 1999 09:12:17 -0500 (EST)

Hi Group -

For all you other X-Finder users - I just found a bug in the sort menu.
Nothing serious - just a minor annoyance.  The default sort by name is
fine, but the next three menu choices are mislabeled.  Selecting TYPE
actually sorts by date, SIZE is really sort by type, and DATE is really
size.

I think this can be patched with Debug by just changing the menu text.
Let you know if it works.

-Peniel
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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:00:00 +0200
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> > I refer to Rocky's idea below, unfortunately I was not able
> > to make it work. When I open ClipVue I notice Load and Save
> > F-keys but when I press them they do not bring up any
> > file-browse menu to choose a file to either load from or
> > save to. Has anyone got some other ideas?
>
> Clipvue has a default filename (I don't recall if you can change it)
> clipvue.txt.  So the clipboard either gets saved to or loaded from that
> file.  Use it as an intermediary file to move data around.

Only problem is that when I press Fn-Memo to open Clipvue in
Pal Edit (operating under Dos in workgroup 5 of Software
Carousel), SC closes workgroup 5, opens workgroup 1 (system
manager) and then Clipvue opens up. I can't seem to get
Clipvue to open while in a workgroup running in Dos. So how
can I access the info in clipvue.txt if I don't run under
system manager?

Rian Maartens

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:59:56 +0200
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Avi,
No, I don't use EMM, unless I'm not aware of it. I am using my 2x/32Mb =
palmtop
with SC just as I received it from Thaddeus Publishing.
The only other things I could add to the story is;
1. that I was deleting about 100 records from one folder in POST/Lx
before I went on line by pressing delete 15-20 times
repeatedly at a time,
2. that my ISP somehow had a problem with the Newsgroup server and did =
not allow a
download. (This has happened a number of times though and it
has not caused a problem before or since but it does explain
the 'Error=3D ***ERROR News2/LX *** ' message),
3. that I loaded a large data file (6 Mb) to my c-drive and
that I deleted another datafile of about 7 Mb before I went
online. (Could it be that the reason for the problem is that I
did not run SC's Disk Optimization after making large changes
on the c-drive?) and
4. that my resource pool setting seems to have been too small
because I had vertical lines on switching 'palmtops' which I
no longer have since I have increased the resource pool size.

I hope some of this helps us understand the problem better
for future preventative measures.

Other WWW/LX general questions:
1. How do I go about updating my WWW/LX version?
2. How do I delete all marked records from a folder in
POST/Lx?
3. Is it possible to append the www link where my cursor is in a HTML =
document
to HOT or does it only append the address of the currently
displayed webpage?

Rian Maartens

> > Just after being online with 'post' in WWW/LX plus, it crashed!!!
> > In Dos the message read:
> > Fatal error: No mailbox named 'Mail' found
> > Exiting WWW/LX
> >
> > I viewed the post.cfg file in filer and the only contents
> > were:
> > SYSTEM
> > Error=3D*** News2/LX ***|Must configure default NNTP-Server!
> >
> > I seem to be up and running again since I copied post.cfg
> > from my PC backup.
>
> I had the exact same think happen to me, except post.cfg
> was totally destroyed. Since we are using two different
> versions of WWW/LX Plus I am sure it is not in the product.
> I use SC and I believe you do too.
>
> I am not pointing a finger at SC because I have used it for
> two years now with NO such problems, and this is the first
> time, so I am also confident this is not the cause.
>
> Until just two days ago I was using a DISK-based Resource
> pool, not EMM. Two days ago I converted and installed a
> 2.5MB EMM for SC to use. It is quite possible that is the
> source of the problems. I dunno...
>
> > Can anyone on the HPLX list offer some explanation for this
> > and offer some advice on how to prevent it in future.
> >
> > I run a 2x/32Mb 200LX with SSC. Post was the only program
> > running in 'palmtop' 5 when it crashed.
>
> Do you use EMM?
>
>   Avi M. D&A
>

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 05:32:11 PST
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              al chin <hobchi@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Paradox 3 is excellent and works.
Paradox 3 may work but it's more memory.

Semper mobilius
yor pal al.............................

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:07:01 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

> No, you know the ones - at each corner of the sitting-side of the LX series.
> One corner of my 200LX has declared independence of its footie AND its
> accompanying little screw. Miraculously, I found the footie, but I think the
> screw is history. Short of making HP honor my extended warranty, is there
> anywhere I can get that little piece of hardware?

I suppose to contact Thaddeus or Rundel (Germany).
They _must_ have such screws (at least from broken palmtops).

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:54:32 +0200
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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sponsor@ftel.net wrote:

> Martin,
>
> > I will buy the new Nokia 7110 when it is released (if I can find the
> > money)....
> >
> > I will test WWW/LX with it to see if I can get it to work when the time
> > comes...
>
> You may want to look at Jorgen's post. He says that only
> the 8x and 9x family of Nokias support AT commands via IR.
> So I think the 7x won't work.
>

The 7110 is brand new showd it on the Cebit in Hannover the other day....  for
info go to http://www.nokia.com/phones/7110/phone/data.html

It says there:

"Data usage

You can use Nokia 7110 as a wireless modem.
The Nokia 7110 has built-in data communication
capability, and a built-in infrared (IrDA) port. It
supports GSM data transfer speed up to 14.4 kbps.
Data cable DLR-3 connects your Nokia 7110 to
your PCs serial (RS-232C) port. "

There will be us versions of this phone too. The 7110 is a gsm 900/1800
phone..

> Not quite a good quote. I think all the 8810s that were
> tested work fine. SH888 also ok, except one beta tester
> that I know of.
>

Guess I misread something in a mail from you...saw at your website that there
had been problem with a Sh888 and not the 8810...sorry


>
> > There has been problems with Psion and Ce/8810. Those with not the
> > latest softwareversion has problems..(just a tip) I do not remember what
> > buttons to push to view the software version but you can find this info
> > on the web..
>
> Don't know anything about it, so I cannot comment.
>
>   Avi M. D&A

I have kept myself updated on the 8810/Ce/Psion world because a friend of mine
has a 8810/Psion...

But no need to worry : I will keep my  distance to "the dark side"!!!

--
Med vennlig hilsen/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:47:23 +0200
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I need a small COM file (under 1kb) that turns the palmtop
off. I used it when creating macros which started at the
certain time, because it was the only way to turn the
palmtop off after the macro had been finished. I must
emphasize that it is not the DISP.ZIP, that turns off the
display only. If you have what I need, send it by E-mail.

Thanks in advance.


Dejan Radic (writing from the bomb shelter)
Belgrade
Yugoslavia

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:34:02 +1000
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The horizontal lines appearing on the display with each disk access occured
on my 95lx with an original SunDisk card, so I don't think that it's related
to the newer cards.

>
>You can use the HP95 drivers given with the first Sundisk cards (I think
>you can find them somewere on the net, if not, I can send them to you).
>
>BUT, if the driver works there are two problemq :
>- some horizontal lines appears at each disk acess,
>- after a few minutes (even if your HP is off ! it is very strange) you
>  go to a "low BACKUP battery" (yes backup, the main goes after !)
>
>I think these two problems are caused bay the fact that the new CF
>drains more current than the old Sundisk cards for the HP95. A solution
>could be to use NiMH batteries. I have none of them currently, but you
>can try.
>
>Jacques.
>------------------------------
>The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites.
>"You have new mail" appeared on the screen...
>------------------------------ adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story
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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:24:00 +0000
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              Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM>
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Avi -

If you insist on abusing the people who pay money for your software,
please don't do it on the list. Abuse them in private. It does two
things:

1. It will help your profits as you won't turn off potential customers.
2. It will save bandwidth you so bitterly complain about if some quotes
too much of a previous message.

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 21:46:32 -0600
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              Victor Roberts <robertsv@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, Jez Cunningham <Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR> wrote:

> Only tech-heads should read on...
>
> Christopher and Vic agree that :
>
> (b) Percieved brightness is linearly proportional to average power
>
> Sorry, but I have to stop lurking to throw a little disagreement into =
the
> discussion.
>
> About 25 years ago I was working on an application where we wanted to =
get
> more brightness from LEDs.  There was an application note (I believe =
from
> HP) that due to the phenomenon of "persistence of vision", the eye
> perceives a pulsed light to be brighter than a continuous light of the =
same
> average power.  You have to pulse it faster than about 50Hz to avoid
> flicker.

This is quite interesting. I have worked in the lighting
business for 27 years. Our goal has always been to get the
most light out (lumens) per watt of power in for every source
we designed. This is called Efficacy. In 27 years of attending
technical conferences in lighting and related areas I have
never seen a source that used pulsing to increase efficacy.

The reason your experiment could have produced the results you
report could be that the LED has a non-linear output. That is,
if the current is doubled, its light output may more than
double. This is very different than proposing that the eye
behaves in a non-linear manner.

However, I do want to be open minded about this. I will post
the question over in sci.enrg.lighting and also ask the human
factors experts at the Lighting Research Center at RPI.
(www.lrc.rpi.edu)

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Date:         Wed, 31 Mar 1999 22:21:42 EST
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I remember someone looking for good Lotus disks. I was in a second hand store
today. I found two sealed packages of 123 ver 2.3 DOS for $12.95 and disks
only for ver2.2 for $5. If this will help anyone, let me know.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 00:16:05 -0600
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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>Great. It seems to me we all use different versions of
>WWW/LX Plus and I doubt it is a WWW/LX Plus issue. It also
>looks like a common thread is that we use EMM and SC.


The problem is most likely folks using old versions of TREMM with SC.  I
haven't had a problem for a very long time now and I haven't used an SC swap
file in years.  I fixed a few bugs in TREMM a year or so ago and haven't had
anything else creep up since then.  If folks are still getting a corruption
now with SC and the 1.4a or 1.4b version of TREMM.EXE then I would suspect SC
or their configuration at that point.

The latest version of INSTEMM.EXE v1.3 uses less memory to create the swapfile
so that it can be run from System Manager more successfully and TREMM.EXE has
several bug fixes, includes a faster page swapping mechanism, and has a more
robust swapfile checking routine that gets run each time TREMM.EXE is loaded
from CONFIG.SYS.  The checking routine replaces the CHKEMM program that used
to be included in the distribution and this makes sure that the swapfile has
not moved.

You cannot create an EMM swapfile with any other program than INSTEMM as it
contains information about the location of the swapfile that TREMM uses.

Cheers,
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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 00:15:10 -0800
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Uh? Didn't see it on your site...

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: StockChart


> Philipe,
>
> > Has anyone tried StockChart (http://www.leive.com/dps.htm)? What did you
> > think? Anyone wants to sell it?
>
> I think it is a fantastic product. D&A sells it now...
>
>   Avi M. D&A
>
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Christopher Lott:

I publicly apologize to you for being less than charitably
courteous, if not outright rude - I think the latter
characterises accurately the tone of my post to you
regarding updates and upgrades of WWW/LX Plus Version 2.

I apologize. I have been answering the same question over
and over again, mostly in public heere. I have tried any
number of things to mae it more clear, and I am totally,
completely at my wits end and absolutely frustrated with
the fact that I am unable to convey this. (I believe you
and I even had a very similar email in February this year
or December last year...)

Anyway, this frustration of mine notwithstanding, there was
no need for me to be as harsh in my reply as I was. I am
sorry, and I owuld like to know how I make amends to you, I
have obviuously hurt you completely unnecessarily.

Please accept my apology. I also would like to apologise to
the rest of the members of this list who have read my
response. I have shown exceptional lack of judgement and
respect to Chris Lott, and to you all.

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 01:27:32 -0500
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> > There has been problems with Psion and Ce/8810. Those with not the
> > latest softwareversion has problems..(just a tip) I do not remember what
> > buttons to push to view the software version but you can find this info
> > on the web..
>
> Don't know anything about it, so I cannot comment.

*#0000#

gives the verson of the 8810 software. Or AT+CGMR. Apparently 4.05 is a
fix for Psion and CE and Win98. Also works with WWW/LX.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 02:05:38 -0800
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Well, it looks like I am going to be somewhat out of full
commission for several weeks. The message I recently
posted to Chris really shook me up and into reflection
that I must go back to the things I did best for me on the
the people around me. I basically like people A LOT, and
especially Palmtoppers. I realize, too, that I strayed
from my basic premises to the extent that it is possible
for me to inflict hurt on people around me as I did to
Chris.

I am not going anywhere, but I'll be spending a lot more
time back in activities which I have left in the past few
months. These are activities that tend to heal me, tend to
focus me, tend to bring out in me the side that is
cheerful, funny, helpful, constructive, likes people, and
is happier.

NONE of the D&A operations will be impacted in any way.
Since I remain put all this will go on.

- SUPPORT OPERATIONS will continue amongst Stan, Helmuth,
Tony, Andreas, and myself, same as before.

- ORDER FULFILLMENT will remain at the same pace, perhaps
faster.

- PARTICIPATION ON LIST: I will be lurking more, and more
spradic about reading, and will probably will have a lot
less time to post, here and in other venues. But what is
absolutely necessary, I'll post, of course.

I am very sorry about this incident, but hopefully it
served to get me back to what I am best at. The hurt I
inflicted extends beyond Chris Lott's and the list here,
but also to my partner, our Beta Team, and so on. that is
not acceptable to me. I really have to pay attention to
what happened here, right now, and seriously.

Anyway, I will be intensively "at it" :) for about three
weeks. I hope this is sufficient time.

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 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:02:31 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Paradox for DOS
Comments: To: aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU

I have a copy of Paradox for DOS ver 3.5 complete with all documentation if you're interested let me know.
Rich

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:13:17 +0700
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              Steve Soper <ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID>
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Subject:      Re: The 200LX is Everywhere!
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>  Yesterday I saw (just by accident) that the dutch railroad
>  conductors using the 200LX to give timetable and fare
>  information! So it ain't just freaks using it... ;P
>
You also see the judges on the ATP tour (tennis) using them.

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Subject:      Re: better coords for world time database?
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>
> If there is interest, I could post it to super with my html
> stuff?

I bet there is a lot of interest.  I sure hope you do post the World
Time File to the Super Site.

Also, what is the CIA Fact Book?  It sounds a bit like an
encyclopedia?

Thanks,
Steve Soper - East Jave, Indonesia

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On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Steve Soper wrote:

> Also, what is the CIA Fact Book?  It sounds a bit like an
> encyclopedia?

It's a list of information on all the countries in the world.  Statistics
like population, GNP, etc.

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From:         Walter Francis <wally@POP.UKY.EDU>
Organization: Completely Disorganized
Subject:      Re: D&A Software
Comments: To: Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM>
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On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:24:00 +0000, you wrote:

>If you insist on abusing the people who pay money for your software,
>please don't do it on the list. Abuse them in private. It does two
>things:

Avi must have ran out of prozac again, he wigs out like this at least
monthly...

Whew...  Last time it was me sending him an *evil* 2K logfile..  :)

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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Try
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/index.html


Steve Soper wrote:
>
> >
> > If there is interest, I could post it to super with my html
> > stuff?
>
> I bet there is a lot of interest.  I sure hope you do post the World
> Time File to the Super Site.
>
> Also, what is the CIA Fact Book?  It sounds a bit like an
> encyclopedia?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Soper - East Jave, Indonesia

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:50:13 +0000
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> Clipvue to open while in a workgroup running in Dos. So how
> can I access the info in clipvue.txt if I don't run under
> system manager?


Just open the clipvue.txt file as you would any other file.  I don't use
PE but it can move between more than one file.  Open file X. Then if
you need the info in clipvue.txt, open it, copy and past between PE
windows or views or whatever PE calls different files.  And if you want
info from PE moved to sysmgr application, save the data to clipvue.txt.
Then go to sysmgr, call clipvue.exm, and load the TEXT file into the
clipboard.  Then paste into the sysmgr application of your choice.

But first, in sysmgr from memo or wherever you get the clipped data, you
need to call clipvue and save the "clipboard" into clipvue.txt.

It does take a few steps but it is far better than nothing.  We worked
hard on Gilles to create this application! (G)

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:05:46 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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From:         "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: HP200LX SSC-COPYING BETWEEN PALMTOPS & PE E-MAILS
Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
In-Reply-To:  <19990401175013.ISEA13701@worldnet.att.net>
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This subject came up a couple of months ago, and a program does the same
thing in Windows was mentioned (allows 'partial' use of the clipboard with
non-Windows applications) - does anyone recall what the name of that
program is?

tia,

Claud

At 05:50 PM 4/1/99 +0000, you wrote:
>> Clipvue to open while in a workgroup running in Dos. So how
>> can I access the info in clipvue.txt if I don't run under
>> system manager?
>
>
>Just open the clipvue.txt file as you would any other file.  I don't use
>PE but it can move between more than one file.  Open file X. Then if
>you need the info in clipvue.txt, open it, copy and past between PE
>windows or views or whatever PE calls different files.  And if you want
>info from PE moved to sysmgr application, save the data to clipvue.txt.
>Then go to sysmgr, call clipvue.exm, and load the TEXT file into the
>clipboard.  Then paste into the sysmgr application of your choice.
>
>But first, in sysmgr from memo or wherever you get the clipped data, you
>need to call clipvue and save the "clipboard" into clipvue.txt.
>
>It does take a few steps but it is far better than nothing.  We worked
>hard on Gilles to create this application! (G)
>
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>
>

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:18:08 -0500
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Thu,  1 Apr 1999 11:45:37 -0500 (EST)

02h45m37s ago ...
On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Rian Maartens wrote:

> ...
> Only problem is that when I press Fn-Memo to open Clipvue in
> Pal Edit (operating under Dos in workgroup 5 of Software
> Carousel), SC closes workgroup 5, opens workgroup 1 (system
> manager) and then Clipvue opens up. I can't seem to get
> Clipvue to open while in a workgroup running in Dos. So how
> can I access the info in clipvue.txt if I don't run under
> system manager?

     Here's what I did for PE, I set up an EXKey macro as follows:

PE
{Alt++}=3D{Menu}fic:\_dat\clipvue.txt{Enter}

(there, I just used it ;-) )

Now when in PalEdit, "AltPaste" inserts text from ClipVue

HTH...Cheers,


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Does anybody have any ideas on redefining the keyboard in WP51 to be more
palmtop-friendly?  Such as, the menu key selecting the menu... Shift+arrow
key combinations marking text... Fn+Copy and the other "clipboard" keys
working... And things like that?  How about for allowing combinations like
Alt+F to select the File menu?  (Currently I have to do "Alt" and then F,
as pressing them together produces a "macro not found" error.)

Any solutions would be appreciated.  Even a special TSR.  <g>

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 20:28:45 +0200
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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> I also would like to apologise to
> the rest of the members of this list who have read my
> response....

No problem, Avi ! Most of us carry an umbrella for the occasional
downpour. Keep the good work up !
Regards
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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:38:04 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu,  1 Apr 1999 13:27:06 -0500 (EST)

Hi again, group -

A follow-up on my post about X-Finder file sorting:  Tried patching the
menu text with Debug, and everything seems to work fine.  If you want
to try this, the part to patch starts at offset 8F6B (906B with Debug).
At this location, change "Type" to "Date", change "Size" to "Type", and
"Date" to "Size".  DO NOT change anything but the text!  BTW - do this
on a COPY of finder.exm - NOT your working file.

I thought of posting a Debug script to make the patch, but if I made a
typo, and your palmtop crashed, you just might get PO'd  8-)

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:45:21 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Avi's desperation
In-Reply-To:  <199904011828.UAA15457@prometeo.activanet.es> from "Winfried
              Zettelmeyer" at Apr 1, 99 08:28:45 pm
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> No problem, Avi ! Most of us carry an umbrella for the occasional
> downpour. Keep the good work up !

I guess I would like to second this notion.  I was a little surprised
about the reaction my question received from Avi, but I had come to
expect that this was just part of his way of expressing himself.  I
wasn't really bothered by the message, and have long ago learned to
filter through these kinds of replies from Avi to get to the real
meat of the matter.

Of course, I would prefer everyone be nice and polite all the time...

Anyway, I wouldn't want Avi to abandon his palmtop development efforts
on account of my stupid question.  I own two D&A products, and have
been pleased with them and would recommend them to friends.  Keep up
the good work guys...

-Chris

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:04:23 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: LED pulsing (again)
In-Reply-To:  <H000009708a52e64@MHS> from "Jez Cunningham" at Mar 29,
              99 09:38:54 am
Content-Type: text

> About 25 years ago I was working on an application where we wanted to get
> more brightness from LEDs.  There was an application note (I believe from
> HP) that due to the phenomenon of "persistence of vision", the eye
> perceives a pulsed light to be brighter than a continuous light of the same
> average power.  You have to pulse it faster than about 50Hz to avoid
> flicker.

Jez:

I've been trying to search the HP app notes for this, and haven't had any
luck.  Can you remember any more about this note than what you've told
us so far?  I would really like to learn more about this subject.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:13:30 +0200
Reply-To:     gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at
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From:         Gerhard Gonter <gonter@ZECHINE.WU-WIEN.AC.AT>
Subject:      Re: Another IRDA driver
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Paal Rasmussen wrote:
> Could you please elaborate?
> Which IR adapter? Is there a receiver/transmitter that can be driven from
> the serial port readily available?

The device I'm using is a transmitter which is attached by cable to the
serial port of my RS 6000.  The box is labled "Puma technologies -
Tranxit pro - Infrared Kit - including infrared adapter".  I only used
the adapter, of course, the software went right back into the box.

After setting the right line parameters (9600 baud, 8 bit, 1 stop bit)
and reconfiguring the RS 6000's getty settings I was able to log in
and also to use kermit.

> I am running Linux on a machine, and would like to connect to the LX.

Check out peter w.'s LXFileman package which works on top of lxtools.
lxbackup is also included there:

  http://www.clark.net/~peterw/LXFileman/info.htm

To backup just fire up the file manager and configure communication
once,
place the HP-LX somewhere in the IR transmitters range and enter

| $ lxbackup -v
| backup C:\QUICKEN\QHP.CFG, 233 bytes ... done
| backup C:\QUICKEN\QDATA.PDT, 332288 bytes ...

Your Linux box might allow higher transfer rates.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:50:33 -0500
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From:         Tony Hutchins <th@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX: 'Post' Crash report / advice
Comments: To: Rian Maartens <maartens@IAFRICA.COM>
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Fri,  2 Apr 1999 07:39:33 +1200 (NZT)

04h12m53s ago ...
On Thu,  1 Apr 1999 07:26:40 -0800 (PST), Rian Maartens wrote:

> 1. How do I go about updating my WWW/LX version?

Visit www.dasoft.com

> 2. How do I delete all marked records from a folder in
> POST/Lx?

Press the key with the big back-arrow on it and then press "M"

Or press MENU H(for Help) and then "Help for Keys" and see what all the
keys can do for you. Instead of using the backspace key you can use
Shift-DEL....

> 3. Is it possible to append the www link where my cursor is in a HTML document
> to HOT or does it only append the address of the currently
> displayed webpage?

F5 works for the currently displayed page. If the page contains links
you want to visit direcly from HV.HOT, then visit them and save their
links. Or if the page contains many links you might want to visit later
then just save the link of the page you are on and use it as a jumping
off point again later?

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:43:01 -0500
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: I've almost had it.
Comments: cc: Andreas Garzotto <garzotto@acm.org>

A:

Sonuvabitchin idiots are driving me f***ing insane!  What did I do to deserve this?  And then, just so we don't lose a few of the less sensible customers, I have to throw my but on the floor and beg for mercy like some kind of 90-pound jerk.  But at least business won't go down.

Still, I can not believe the incredible idiocy I am surrounded by.  First the "customers" complain about the high prices we charge, not understanding that this is a high-margin business because there are so few customers. Barflebits!  They find our products difficult to use and they do not understand our upgrade policies because they do not read the documentation.  If they would only take some time to carefully read the RTF*M or readme files for each product we would cut our support requests in half. But we can not even depend on palmtoppers to show faint signs of intelligence these days.  I am ready to give up the business as it is more trouble than it is worth.  I would advise that you stop work on the new products immediately as I will not sell them anymore.  The SSL version of WWW/LX we will release as freeware but the other products we will sell to a different vendor.  Let them deal with the headaches.

BTW, Andreas, that code "user: NOBODY s/n: 16418" does work for WWW/LX 1.x.  It a damngood thing no one can get 1.x anymore or we would have a sh*t load of pirates handing out our stuff.


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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:38:44 +0200
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Please post the update to SUPER

> I have a worldtime file with over 900 cities, all painstakingly research=
ed
> and
> with the most accurate lat/long figures I could find. I also
snip

> In my worldtime file I have also corrected the erroneous time-zone info =
for
> all
> entries and updated country name-changes and other data changed from =
when
> it was burned into rom by the grand HP guys.


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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:03:01 -0600
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Subject:      Printer Codes...?

Hi All,

I know someone posted a great set or link to printer codes we can use.
Does this sound familiar to anyone?

I've started using the IrDA adaptive software for the LX from SUPER I
think and want to enter codes that will change an HP LaserJet 5p to Times
New Roman, affect font size, etc.

Haven't tried it yet, but does anyone have any special warnings/advice
regarding making something *BOLD,* etc. in Memo, and making sure it prints
that way?

TIA,

--tim

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-----Original Message-----
From: Gerhard Gonter mailto:gonter@ZECHINE.WU-WIEN.AC.AT
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 1:14 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: Another IRDA driver


Paal Rasmussen wrote:
> Could you please elaborate?
> Which IR adapter? Is there a receiver/transmitter that can be driven from
> the serial port readily available?

The device I'm using is a transmitter which is attached by cable to the
serial port of my RS 6000.  The box is labled "Puma technologies -
Tranxit pro - Infrared Kit - including infrared adapter".  I only used
the adapter, of course, the software went right back into the box.

After setting the right line parameters (9600 baud, 8 bit, 1 stop bit)
and reconfiguring the RS 6000's getty settings I was able to log in
and also to use kermit.

> I am running Linux on a machine, and would like to connect to the LX.

Check out peter w.'s LXFileman package which works on top of lxtools.
lxbackup is also included there:

  http://www.clark.net/~peterw/LXFileman/info.htm

To backup just fire up the file manager and configure communication
once,
place the HP-LX somewhere in the IR transmitters range and enter

| $ lxbackup -v
| backup C:\QUICKEN\QHP.CFG, 233 bytes ... done
| backup C:\QUICKEN\QDATA.PDT, 332288 bytes ...

Your Linux box might allow higher transfer rates.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:13:55 -0600
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:43:01 -0500, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Sonuvabitchin idiots are driving me f***ing insane!  What did I do to deserve this?  And then, just so we don't lose a few of the less sensible customers, I have to throw my but on the floor and beg for mercy like some kind of 90-pound jerk.  But at l
e
> ast business won't go down.

Hmmm.... this is getting to be like a TV drama <G>!

73 Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:21:11 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Maybe this wasn't supposed to go to the list, ...

At 03:13 PM 4/1/99 -0600, you wrote:
>On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:43:01 -0500, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:
>
>> Sonuvabitchin idiots are driving me f***ing insane!  What did I do to
deserve this?  And then, just so we don't lose a few of the less sensible
customers, I have to throw my but on the floor and beg for mercy like some
kind of 90-pound jerk.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:29:20 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Yes. And on 1 April, too...

Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:43:01 -0500, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:
>
> <snip of earlier>
>
> Hmmm.... this is getting to be like a TV drama <G>!
>
> 73 Jeff
>
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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:30:27 -0500
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Whoofa! I knew that archiving older versions was good for something... hey,
comports abandon/pirate-ware guy, you readin' this?

>
> BTW, Andreas, that code "user: NOBODY s/n: 16418" does work
> for WWW/LX 1.x.  It a damngood thing no one can get 1.x
> anymore or we would have a sh*t load of pirates handing out our stuff.
>

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> Hmmm.... this is getting to be like a TV drama <G>!

April Fools!!!!  Or maybe just one fool!

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April fool, right?

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:50:45 +0000
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              Mikhail Epelbaum <mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET>
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Avi - at the risk of irritating you - I would like to note that I
already have a full time job. All I want is the program to work,
reliably. Actually, what I do does involve trials and research, but of a
different kind.

Mikhail

> Instead of losing your patience with it, you could set up
> some good trials and research with the rest of us so we can
> all find a solution. I just wrote to Rian than we should
> compare setups. Did you use EMM when you had you crashes
> with SC?
>
>   Avi M. D&A
>

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:23:59 -0500
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              Tamas Feher <e-tomcat@SC.BME.HU>
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Hello all,

Seems like there is a solution to a long sought LX addon: SCSIiii!
It is called the Olympus DIMO, about 3 matchboxes big, 200grams.

Developed for up to 10,000 pics storage on MO drive/disks for use
with the Olympus C-1400XL camera, it has RS-232C DB-9 on one end
(8-bit, no parity) and an Apple-style DB-25 SCSI on the other.
It sucks power from SCSI bus and is slow: 115,2kb/s serial side,
100KB/s on SCSI side. Pro: It has flash upgradeable firmware.
Supports the Olypmus PowerMO 230II and 640MB drives as is.

I wonder if it's suitable for the HPLX, say for ZIP use? One
thing I'm concerned about, that it may support only unidirec-
tional transfer or has hardwired SCSI subset only for bad.
(This little box has two buttons on top to d/l from camera).

IMO, someone should test this thingie ASAP; as RS-232 devices
may not be around for long, considering all the USB craze the
Win98 brought. It would be a pity to miss the opportunity.

BTW, the DIMO was announced in Sept 1998 (that is 6 month ago).
Noone noticed it? (I am not trying to flame, just curious)
I came across a photo of it in a weekly's test of C-1400 camera.

You can find specs, announcement, photos (english and german) at:
<www.olympus-europa.com/press/text/di/9809/> or
<www.olympus-europa.com/photogra/digimg/products/gfx/spec_n.html>

I am no way connected to Olympus, just found it by mistake.

 Sincerely:  Tamas Feher
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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:34:03 -0500
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              Darren Frick <dfrick@SNIP.NET>
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-----Original Message-----
From: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Thursday, April 01, 1999 10:47 AM
Subject: Out for awhile...


>Well, it looks like I am going to be somewhat out of full
>commission for several weeks. The message I recently


Avi, a little Vaca can really help a lot.

Recharge those batteries...

Darren.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:53:25 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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>Apparently many seem to think News/LX should drop the headers and resume
>at the error point when it next connects?

No, I don't object to the current method of operation; I only
questioned what was happening because I didn't understand why I
was getting headers when _I_ didn't rrquest them.  Now that I
understand what is happening recovery is pretty easy.  I select
all headers and go online again (and hope I don't get another
connection problem).

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:06:48 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      news.hplx.net

Anybody know if there's something wrong with the news
server? I keep getting a server not found with LXTCP today.
Is it down?

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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> Anybody know if there's something wrong with the news server? I keep
> getting a server not found with LXTCP today. Is it down?

Nope.  It's working fine, and hasn't changed IP addresses since Monday...

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:05:23 -0600
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              Carpman <ctg@GEOCITIES.COM>
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Well, I've changed my mind about trashing the 100lx. While I cannot
repair it in it's current state, I can rebuild it.

My plan:

 1) Remove the internals from the plastic case.
 2) Find a more suitable case, and mount the palmtop inside.
 3) Add features. For the first version I am planing a modem, tripple
battery arangement, internal 14400 modem, and a BIG(<Six foot tall
leters) linear amp on the IR port.

Hopefully by Monday or Tuseday I will be done. I'll update my page and
put the pictures and plans up then.

Carpman - ctg@geocities.com

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:23:59 -0500
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              Bill Sprague <eugarps@IBM.NET>
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Avi,

I've been there and done that to.  I think anyone who works in a technical
field comes to the point of frustration in answering the same question over
and over.  You spoke out of that frustration and we (at least I) understand.
Don't be away too long...... and don't beat yourself up...... we'll do that
d8)

Bill

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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Sprague mailto:eugarps@IBM.NET
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 5:24 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Out for awhile...
>
>
> Avi,
>
> I've been there and done that to.  I think anyone who works
> in a technical
> field comes to the point of frustration in answering the same
> question over
> and over.  You spoke out of that frustration and we (at least
> I) understand.
> Don't be away too long...... and don't beat yourself up......
> we'll do that
> d8)
>
> Bill
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AMEN to that !!!

Jon

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:47:17 +0200
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              Dejan Radic <dradic@EUNET.YU>
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I'm experiencing some problems with the latest version of
POST/LX. When downloading headers only, the previous
version hung up right after finishing up counting headers;
on the other hand, the current one (2.2) doesn't hang up
until it displays the subjects and the message senders. To
assure myself that this staying-on-line is completely
useless, I pulled the phone line out of the modem, while
the programmme was displaying the subjects and the senders,
and nothing happened: it did the same job as if it stayed
on the line.

Can you tell me where could I find the previous version?
Or, if someone has it (if /s/he didn't upgrade the
POST/LX), I would ask him/her to send me the POST.EXE file
by E-mail.

Thanks in advance.

Dejan Radic (writing from the bomb shelter)
Belgrade
Yugoslavia

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:02:23 -0600
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Mo'dem Woes

I've been having the oddest run of luck with modems lately.  I cannot get
any sound feedback from the modem.  You know all that screetching and
squawking that warms the heart to hear - I get none of it.  I can hear
the pick-up and the line drop but no connection noises.

I've tried the M options including M2 for speaker always on and that
doesn't have any effect.  I've also tried the L options but no volume
level works.  The problem went away once for two connects immediately
after a reformat of the hard drive.  After the two connections, it
returned to silence.

I know it must be me, however, because I've got the problem with three
different PCMCIA modems used in either the HP200lx or a laptop, two
internal modems on two separate desktops, and one external modem on a
third desktop.  The PCMCIA modems are a 14.4 MHz X-Jack, a Motorola 28.8
cellular, and a Compaq 14.4.  The desktop modems are all USR Sportsters
(a 28.8, 33.6, and 56K).

Anyone know how I might get the sound back?  I really like the
confirmation hearing the noise gives.

Thanks.

Larry Zimmerman

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              Frank McConnell <fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG>
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In-Reply-To:  "R. Christopher Lott"'s message of Wed, 31 Mar 1999 19:40:40 +6600

"R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:
> I'm aware of this, too.  But Thaddeus provided a program with the
> SSC package that claims to be able to load up Lotus 123 in a SC
> work area - I suspect that is must somehow invoke the system
> manager to do this.  I don't have access to my manuals at the

Uh, LOAD123.COM?  I have plain SC and see it there, but I'm at work
and the manual is at home and I don't use it so don't remember how to
use it.  My guess is that it's a key-stuffer of some sort that you run
from a work area batch file before starting System Manager in that
work area.

Even without LOAD123.COM, it's possible to run System Manager in
multiple work areas, and once you've done that you can open 1-2-3
manually in any one of the work areas and SC will (as with most System
Manager applications) remember which work area it's open in.  I keep
two System Manager work areas just so I can have my phone book, appt,
calculator, &c open in #1 and still have lots of memory in #2 for
1-2-3 with a largish spreadsheet.

-Frank McConnell

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Hey Patrick (and all else that care!),

You asked back on 3/22 whether a Jeteye infrared device you read about will
work with the palmtop. Well, I wanted to respond to your question sooner, but
for whatever reason, I can's seem to send any messages to the LX Forum email
server (yet, ironically, I have no problem receiving other people's mail off
the forum). Maybe as a favor in return for my reply to your question, you
could both post my answer to your question on the forum for others and also
send a message to the forum requesting assistance with my sending problem. I
don't know who runs the forum, but I want to be able to send messages to the
forum from my email account gmsmagic1@aol.com. Yet I want my forum mail to
continue going to garyflash@tritium.net.

Anyways, to answer your Jeteye question about whether this device will work
with the palmtop, the answer is most assuredly yes. I have been using the
jeteye device for around 8 years now. I have one hanging off the parallel port
on my laser printer at work and at home. I simply point the palmtop at the
jeteye device and press Fn 0 (Prt Sc) and out comes my report or screen shot
on my printer. It sure beats using
annoying serial cables.

A couple side notes though. I have been using the older Jeteye model 9510,
which is no longer sold. The 9510 uses what is called SIR (slow infrared
capability) technology, which is what is designed to work with the palmtop.
The newer model 9580 jeteye uses FIR (fast infrared capability) or IRDA
technology
instead. Fortunately, both the S.U.P.E.R. site on the web and the company that
sells this FIR device (Extended Systems), can provide you with the FIR driver
for free which enables the 9580 to work just fine on the palmtop according to
Extended Systems. Finally, if you pursue this further, you should note that
the Jeteye device does not work when the palmtop has Software Carousel loaded.
I therefore have a macro that quickly REM's out the SC on boot up from the
autoexec file whenever I need to print something. Also, you need to install
the jeteye software on the palmtop, load driver command jeteye.sys in the
config.sys file and set your print baude rate at 115.2 under setup on the
palmtop. It may sound complicated, but it's actually quite simple.

Extended Systems is reachable at 1-800-235-5756 (I do not work for them - just
a satisfied customer). The jeteye device should run about $150 or less through
dealers.

Hope this helps,

Gary Silverman


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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:58:34 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: news.hplx.net

Works now. Logged me right in. Guess I just had to complain
and the binary gods waved their hands:)#

David Sargeant writes:
> On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> > Anybody know if there's something wrong with the news server? I keep
> > getting a server not found with LXTCP today. Is it down?
>
> Nope.  It's working fine, and hasn't changed IP addresses since Monday...
>
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Subject:      hp 200 lx emulator
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Hi

i'am looking for a emullator of hp 200 lx for windows CE???
(i'm using a 200 lx and want to use a 360 lx with it)


thanks..

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 20:48:11 +0200
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Subject:      Re: hp 200 lx emulator

> i'am looking for a emullator of hp 200 lx for windows CE???
> (i'm using a 200 lx and want to use a 360 lx with it)
>
>
> thanks..

Whats windows CE? Is that the same as Crash CE? Or Clunk CE? <VBG>
There is an emulator. Its written by Ian Dean. You might check
www.thaddius.com. They'll probably have the info.

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wonder if you could use this for the HP200lx... <g>

http://www.compaq.com.au/dynamouse/productinfo.html

Hmm... it _is_ april 1st...

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Have you tried creating a new keyboard in WP? (Shift+F1, K)

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On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote:

> Have you tried creating a new keyboard in WP? (Shift+F1, K)

Yup.  Tried that.  But many keys can't be redefined, it seems...

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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Steve,

Thanks for the files. The 123.exe and 123.set seem like they might work. The dates
are 6/27/90 rather than 7/19/89. That might be the difference between a 3.5 and 5.25
disk. I think it is immaterial.

It looks like I need a one more file if I could trouble you. One may be hidden. It
is:

    init.exe

There is an init.ri, but Norton Utilities pulled that one up. If the disk has been
used, I think the init.exe get erased.

Thanks.


Steve Novosad wrote:

> At 07:52 AM 4/1/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >So far, they've all been corrupted. If you could send them, I would
> appreciate
> >it, just need 123.exe and 123.set v2.2. Thanks.
>
> Bob,
>
> I think this one is clean.  We have four copies
> here and two are clean.  If not, please destroy
> and I will hunt down the others.
>
> Steve
>
> P.S. I checked this against a second copy, so it
> should be good to go.
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>               Name: 123.ZIP
>    123.ZIP    Type: Download File (application/zip)
>           Encoding: base64
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:25:44 -0800
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Avi's desperation
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> No problem, Avi ! Most of us carry an umbrella for the occasional
> downpour. Keep the good work up !

:-)

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 00:13:13 -0800
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Comments: To: Agentrapid@aol.com
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The joke is not funny, and it was not posted by me, but by
someone who has highjacked my identity and spoofed the
email. I have no access to the server where this was
posted. Ugly, but effective in embarrassing me.

  Avi M. D&A

> April fool, right?

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Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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yes, and I hope you know it is not coming from me. Check
the date, and check the headers. I have no access to the
servers there, and in the past week I use Ricochet
exclusively!

Other stylistic problems: I never call Andreas "A.", and in
a message to him I never use "*"s to mask x-rated words! :)
--- I am also far and away from being a "90-pound jerk" -
much more heavy than that! :) ...

Anyway... I've been spoofed. Not the first time here.

Sorry I have been the source to wake up this bad boy.

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Subject:      Re: FLUFF HPLX-L I've almost had it.
Comments: To: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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He wrote it!!! Whddaya mean read it? Anyway, check the
headers carefully, it is a spoof. And the date fits too!

  Avi M. D&A

> Whoofa! I knew that archiving older versions was good for something... hey,
> comports abandon/pirate-ware guy, you readin' this?
>
> >
> > BTW, Andreas, that code "user: NOBODY s/n: 16418" does work
> > for WWW/LX 1.x.  It a damngood thing no one can get 1.x
> > anymore or we would have a sh*t load of pirates handing out our stuff.
> >
>
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Subject:      Re: I've almost had it.
Comments: To: "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Claud: Whoever spoofed my email DEFINITELY wanted it on the
list!!! What a great way to embarrass me! Check the date,
check the style, etc... It was not posted by me. Someone
uses my name and email address etc. He/she has done it
before to another list member (Peter Border, I believe!).

I use Rocochet exclusively lately and have no access to the
server where this was posted.

  Avi M. D&A

> Maybe this wasn't supposed to go to the list, ...
>
> At 03:13 PM 4/1/99 -0600, you wrote:
> >On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:43:01 -0500, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:
> >
> >> Sonuvabitchin idiots are driving me f***ing insane!  What did I do to
> deserve this?  And then, just so we don't lose a few of the less sensible
> customers, I have to throw my but on the floor and beg for mercy like some
> kind of 90-pound jerk.
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Subject:      Re: Version of POST/LX preceding 2.2 (16 Jan 1999)
Comments: To: Dejan Radic <dradic@EUNET.YU>
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Dejan,

> I'm experiencing some problems with the latest version of
> POST/LX. When downloading headers only, the previous
> version hung up right after finishing up counting headers;
> on the other hand, the current one (2.2) doesn't hang up
> until it displays the subjects and the message senders. To
> assure myself that this staying-on-line is completely
> useless, I pulled the phone line out of the modem, while
> the programmme was displaying the subjects and the senders,
> and nothing happened: it did the same job as if it stayed
> on the line.

Ok, if I understand it right: 2.1 hung up as soon as the
counter was done counting (I assume you watched the modem
lights...)

Version 2.2 does the counting, then paints the screen with
the messages, is this right?

As I experience Post/LX 2.2, it goes back to the same
screen I had. So if I start in the message list (each
message takes one line) and press F5 to go online, that is
where I come back to. If I am on the main screen, where
each folder has one line, then press F5 then that is where
I return.

What puzzles me is the reference to "was displaying the subjects and the
senders". Do you mean you see some list of senders or are
you refering to the message list view (each message takes
one line)?

If that is what you mean, maybe try to go online when in
the main screen.

Also, how much time do you experience? In my version it
takes a second, no more.

Actually, with the Ricochet modem, after the program is
done online, it takes almost 60 seconds before the modem
actually breaks the connection, even in Datacomm. So maybe
this is a modem issue? I am really not sure...

> Can you tell me where could I find the previous version?
> Or, if someone has it (if /s/he didn't upgrade the
> POST/LX), I would ask him/her to send me the POST.EXE file
> by E-mail.

I don't have the older versions unfortunately.

  Avi M. D&A

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Oops!

> He wrote it!!! Whddaya mean read it? Anyway, check the
> headers carefully, it is a spoof. And the date fits too!

I forgot to put the :) here! I don't know who spoofed my
email address. I _do_ know this happened here before
(Peter Borders?), and I know that the headers of the
spoofed message reveal that it came from a server I do not
have access to.

  Avi M. D&A

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-----Original Message-----
From: John Musielewicz <a123456@bitstream.net>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, April 01, 1999 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: hp 200 lx emulator


<snip wince emulator request>
>
>Whats windows CE? Is that the same as Crash CE? Or Clunk CE? <VBG>

Windows CE is the proper long winded name for WINCE which is a computer OS
for handhelds named for its tendancy to cause uncontrolable spasms in the
user. <G>

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

>There is an emulator. Its written by Ian Dean. You might check
>www.thaddius.com. They'll probably have the info.
>
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Hi WWW/LX users,

since I tend to forget a lot of things, I use my 200LX ;)

Especially I hardly remember how I've set up WWW/LX at the last
update.

To my knowlwdge, it's not recommended to use the old configuration
files - the installation of an update is like a new installation -
with the additional problem that there are files, msgs, and backups
already, which are to be taken over.

I started to make notes on paper, but I don't like that - what's the
LX for?

A printout of the configuration files doesn't help too much, since
it's hard to find where to enter which data in setup screens to
regain a valid configuration file.

So now my question:

Whats the best way to setup/update WWW/LX (or parts)?

Does someone have template files, which contain fields for the data
which have been entered in setup screens?

Using Copy&Paste would make the next setup easy

Thanks in advance..

Hermann

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Hi all, Hi Avi,

one of the biggest advantages of our LX is, that it can be used in so
many different ways by so many different people.

So we are all different in respect to handling our LX!

If someone doesn't spent the necessary time to be an expert in an
area where others are, then this doesn't mean anything!

Wouldn't it be helpful to the list members if we could mark our msgs
according to content *and* expected answers?

'Fluff', 'Tech',... aren't enough. (Is there a convention already
which I missed to follow?)

Why shouldn't list members discuss on different levels? Do we need
different lists instead? One for beginners, experts, experts in
subject A,B,C,... - I don't think so.

Lets mark msgs accordingly and let beginners help beginners, don't
jump in in a way which prevents beginners resp. non-experts from
asking at all.

Hermann

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:28:56 -0500
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              "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
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From:         "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: hp 200 lx emulator
Comments: To: mihlo <mihlo@CLUB-INTERNET.FR>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

This is the site for a 80186 emulator that you can run DOS.

http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html

Stephen Souza
System Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
*mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mihlo SMTP:mihlo@CLUB-INTERNET.FR
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 20:02
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      hp 200 lx emulator
>
>
> Hi
>
> i'am looking for a emullator of hp 200 lx for windows CE???
> (i'm using a 200 lx and want to use a 360 lx with it)
>
>
> thanks..

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:39:57 -0700
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Subject:      Re: 123 v2.2 Disk
Comments: To: Steve Novosad <Novosad@server030.fwb.saic.com>
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Steve,

Thank you very much. The Files worked.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Steve Novosad wrote:

> Bob;
>
> At 09:36 AM 4/2/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >Steve,
> >
> >Thanks for the files. The 123.exe and 123.set seem like they might work.
> The dates
> >are 6/27/90 rather than 7/19/89. That might be the difference between a
> 3.5 and 5.25
> >disk. I think it is immaterial.
> >
>
> Of the two sets I compared, one was 3.5" and one was 5.25".
> I didn't notice the dates however.  (If it matters I can
> dig out the 5.25" again.)
>
> >It looks like I need a one more file if I could trouble you. One may be
> hidden. It
> >is:
> >
> >    init.exe
> >
> >There is an init.ri, but Norton Utilities pulled that one up. If the disk
> has been
> >used, I think the init.exe get erased.
> >
> >Thanks.
>
> Coming at you.  (Off of the System, Help, and Printgraph
> disk.)
>
> Steve
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                Name: 123A.ZIP
>    123A.ZIP    Type: Download File (application/zip)
>            Encoding: base64
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:49:17 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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I use Procomm Plus on both my desktop and palmtop.  It is possible to place
modem specific commands into more than one place in this program.  I advise
you to try re-creating the event which resulted in a working speaker and
then closely monitor the series of events that lead to loss of normal modem
sounds.  I know you are probably not using Procomm, but I still use it as an
example.

Another method for arriving at a answer is to download and install one of
the port pass-through programs from S.U.P.E.R. and using your desktop
machine, run a connection using the palmtop.  Watch the pass-through info
for strings in command mode.  I bet something is resetting the speaker off
mode in all your comm programs.

At least one of my modems has a non-standard command related to the behavior
of the internal speaker.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry N Zimmerman SMTP:zimm4@JUNO.COM
>
        <snip>

> I cannot get any sound feedback from the modem.
>
        <snip>

> Thanks.
>
> Larry Zimmerman
>

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> From:    David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
>
> Does anybody have any ideas on redefining the keyboard in WP51 to be more
> palmtop-friendly?  Such as, the menu key selecting the menu... Shift+arrow
> key combinations marking text... Fn+Copy and the other "clipboard" keys
> working... And things like that?  How about for allowing combinations like
> Alt+F to select the File menu?  (Currently I have to do "Alt" and then F,
> as pressing them together produces a "macro not found" error.)

> Any solutions would be appreciated.  Even a special TSR.  <g>

Using the Menu key would seem to require a custom TSR.
It's not a standard key.  Ditto the function key
combinations.  The "Shift-arrow" is problematic, maybe
some of the "super key" DOS TSR's would do that?  At
least it doesn't use non-standard XT keys.

The Alt-F is easy, just make a macro.

Ctrl-F10  | Create macro
List Files| Enter description of macro
Alt-F     | Name of macro
F5        | List files
Enter     | Optional CR
Ctrl-F10  | end macro

or...

Ctrl-F10  | Create macro
File Menu | Enter description of macro
Alt-F     | Name of macro
Alt-=     | Menu bar
F         | File Menu
Ctrl-F10  | end macro

Steve

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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> and my Motorola SC725 cel phone.
>

Is this a analog phone or what...I am not familier with all the Motorola
models/us models, therefor I have to ask..

we have (soon) only digital gsm 900/1800 here in Norway and soon a new
Umts of somthing for dataspeed higher than 9600


> And the cel phone automatically goes into
> analog mode when it senses the modem.  Nice.
>

Is gsm or digital cellphone nets not that widespread in the US?

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Med vennlig hilsen/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
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              Jacques Belin <listes2@ALTERN.ORG>
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Le Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:34:02 +1000
"Tim Pitman" <tpitman@southcom.com.au> =e9crivait:

> The horizontal lines appearing on the display with each disk access occur=
ed
> on my 95lx with an original SunDisk card, so I don't think that it's rela=
ted
> to the newer cards.

It's possible, I don't remember of that. But if there were such lines,
they were certainly less apparent than with the new CF.

It was the same HP95 I use now, and the card was one of the first 10 Mb
Sundisk, that a friend just bought (in december 92, when the price of
this card was somewere $1800 ;-) )


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On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Steve Novosad wrote:

> Using the Menu key would seem to require a custom TSR. It's not a
> standard key.  Ditto the function key combinations.  The "Shift-arrow"
> is problematic, maybe some of the "super key" DOS TSR's would do that?
> At least it doesn't use non-standard XT keys.

Okay... anybody care to make a special TSR... Stefan?  <g>

> The Alt-F is easy, just make a macro.
> or...
> Ctrl-F10  | Create macro
> File Menu | Enter description of macro
> Alt-F     | Name of macro
> Alt-=     | Menu bar
> F         | File Menu
> Ctrl-F10  | end macro

I run WP with BuddyDOS... and it seems to kill the Alt-= key combination.
Is there a way to edit a macro directly?

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:04:00 -0500
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              Edward Moy <edwardmoy@EMAIL.COM>
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Hi folks:

For the musically inclined: discovered a neat freeware perfect pitch
trainer
that works on the 200lx.  It can be found here:
http://www.harmony-central.com/~ftp/software/dos/misc/pitch.zip

I found that on this page which has a bunch of neat DOS stuff for kids:
http://members.tripod.com/leedonley/dosgateway.htm

The kids page was linked here:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/1401/softlib1.htm
where you can find some more DOS goodies.

Not everything is lx-compatible but worth a look anyway I think.

later
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Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM> wrote:

> what connect
> speeds are you getting from your Cellular connection?  Anything approaching
> 14.4 or slower?

I am using a COM2 serial port speed of 38400 for landline and
cellular use.  I thought I put a W1 in the init string so that
I could see the true DCE connect speed, but it reported
CONNECT 38400, so I think I didn't do the W1 correctly.  I
will let you know when I find out the DCE speed over
cellular.


Stan

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Hermann,

> Why shouldn't list members discuss on different levels? Do we need
> different lists instead? One for beginners, experts, experts in
> subject A,B,C,... - I don't think so.

I think that all expertise levels should be mixed. It
really helps everyone to hear everyone. Surely the less
experts can get information, and the experts can learn
where the problems _really_ are. I think all levels have
something valuable to bring into the discussions.

> Lets mark msgs accordingly and let beginners help beginners, don't
> jump in in a way which prevents beginners resp. non-experts from
> asking at all.

Oh, I dunno. I will probably want to jump and help
everyone! :) Maybe the same goal can be achieved if we all
"listened" better to each other?

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Hermann,

This is a good example how I would want to jump and help
out.

> Whats the best way to setup/update WWW/LX (or parts)?

What we try to do with WWW/LX Plus is to not wipe out your
configuration, or force you to do it all over again. When
we transitioned from www v1 to the current version, the
.CFG files were not compatible. Since April last year the
POST.CFG and WWW.CFG were always compatible. However,
occasionally we provided specific recommendations of things
to add or change in the configuration files.

HV.CFG, the last configuration file in the set, is a
special case. Almost no changes are required to it. The way
it comes is basically fine to use. So if we overwrite it,
no problem.

So in the case of WWW.CFG the official way is to use
WWWSETUP. When you get an update like the new WWW21.EXE, it
leaves WWW.CFG alone, and the settings you had should work
just fine. Same is true for Post.CFG.

The official change tool for POST.CFG is SETUP.EXE.

On occasions it is necessary to make changes to the files
directly. We recommend MEMO or PE. Any Text Editor that
does not make changes on its own to the text, and
self-corrects thhings :), is probably fine.

> Does someone have template files, which contain fields for the data
> which have been entered in setup screens?

Each field on the screen has help associated with it in
SETUP.EXE and in WWWSETUP.EXE. So these should make it
easier to fill out.

I am sure there are other methods. Good idea to document
how people do things...

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:33:52 +0200
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Dejan Radic wrote:

> I need a small COM file (under 1kb) that turns the palmtop
> off. I used it when creating macros which started at the
> certain time, because it was the only way to turn the
> palmtop off after the macro had been finished. I must
> emphasize that it is not the DISP.ZIP, that turns off the
> display only. If you have what I need, send it by E-mail.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Dejan Radic (writing from the bomb shelter)
> Belgrade
> Yugoslavia
>
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I have sent you the program as mail....posting here so that everybody
can see....sorry of you already got it...

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Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 18:36:19 +0200
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Anyone know where I find add-in programs for Lotus 123
ver.2.4? I'm looking for statisical and maths add-in programs
to add more @functions and the @base add-in I read about in
the Palmtop paper. I have searched my Cd infobase 1997 and
the Lotus support webpage without success. I suspect these
programs were developed by third party companies, but who
are they and where can I contact them?  Can anyone tell me
if there is a way to program Lotus 123 to calculate a
factorial?
Palmtop greetings
Rian Maartens

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>      Here's what I did for PE, I set up an EXKey macro as follows:

Al, do you mind explaining exactly how and where you "set up
an EXKey macro"  Where must I type in this command line?

> PE
> {Alt++}=3D{Menu}fic:\_dat\clipvue.txt{Enter}
>
> (there, I just used it ;-) )
>
> Now when in PalEdit, "AltPaste" inserts text from ClipVue
>
> HTH...Cheers,
>
> *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
> *Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
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Where's a good place to buy leather cases these days?  For the palmtop
computer, that is?  My current case was purchased from Educalc years
ago, and is starting to show some signs of wear.  I would really like
to get a similar one, but have no idea who the original mfr is.  I
have seen and tried the ripoff cases, but don't like them.  The one I
have is simple black leather with zipper around the top 1/2.  It has
one pocket inside for PCMCIA card(s) and one on the outside for misc
stuff.  Here's a crude diagram:



                        / <--- Zipper Tab
                       /
     /----------------0****************
     |                       :         * <-- *'s indicate zipper
     |                       :         *     travel around case
     |                       :         *
     |                       :         *
     |                       :         *
     |                       :         *
     |                       : <-------*------- Outside Pocket
     |                       :         *       (Inside pocket is on
     \-----------------****************         the opposite side)



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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:46:26 -0700
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              "Marks, David B" <dbmarks@SANDIA.GOV>
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> Where's a good place to buy leather cases these days?  For the palmtop
> computer, that is?  My current case was purchased from Educalc years
> ago, and is starting to show some signs of wear.  I would really like

www.mrpalmtop.com has some that you might like.  I haven't tried them.  I'm
looking for one that has room for both the AC adapter and modem cable.  The
ones I saw at MrPalmtop were more like a wallet.

Dave

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Greetings:

20m53s ago ... <maartens@IAFRICA.COM> wrote:

> >      Here's what I did for PE, I set up an EXKey macro as follows:
>
> Al, do you mind explaining exactly how and where you "set up
> an EXKey macro"  Where must I type in this command line?
>
> > PE
> > {Alt++}=3D{Menu}fic:\_dat\clipvue.txt{Enter}
> ...

EXKey is an AddIn EXM program for exchanging keys on the LX.
Additionally, and more useful is that you can assign several keystrokes
to one key. The program & setup instructions are available on SUPER:

> Name: exkey024.zip
> Category: Keyboard
> Title: EXKey
> Version: 0.024
> Capture: None
> Size: 14
> Date: 12/31/96
>   Perm?
> Author: Yoshihiro Hanaoka (Maruha)
> Email: QGA01764@niftyserve.or.jp
> Note: EXKey is a TSR that allows you to move often-used keys to
> new locations and to assign a series of keystrokes to one
> key. Freeware.

(there, just used it again! ;-)  )

You also have the capability in PE of writing keyboard macros. I tried
this as well, and as I remember, it worked w/ PE run alone, but not
when spawned from POST/LX

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
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I've had good luck with simple 35mm camera cases.

I started off with a colorful single-compartmant nylon case.  It worked
well, with the LX inside, flash and modem card in a small zippered
compartment in the back, and PlugPower adapter stuffed in the nylon mesh
on the side.

When I purchased a cellular cable plus an Ethernet card, I upgraded to a
dual-compartment Samsonite leather case.  David Sargeant can attest to all
the crud I manage to fit in there!

> > Where's a good place to buy leather cases these days?  For the palmtop
> > computer, that is?  My current case was purchased from Educalc years
> > ago, and is starting to show some signs of wear.  I would really like

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Hello! Does anyone know if they still sell the 200LX holster (looks like a
gun holster, but with a 200LX case) anywhere?

Thanks!

Philippe :)

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People, I just saw the "Flexlite Pocket Reading Light" that Theddeus is
selling. Well, I have one just like that, and it came for free with a pack
of 4 VCR tapes about 5 years back. Well, let me tell you that 24.95$ is a
pure ripoff for something like that. The only redeeming value is the fact
that it seems to fit (or clip) just right on the side of the palmtop. But
otherwise it's just a piece of plastic, worth probably around 5-6$.

Philippe :)

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:12:31 -0700
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folks,

$9.00 - not the same light but similar in size and function.

http://www.couchpotato.net/showitem.html?item_id=570&site_id=28

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:18:57 +0100
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> I've been having the oddest run of luck with modems lately.  I cannot =
get
> any sound feedback from the modem.  You know all that screetching and
> squawking that warms the heart to hear - I get none of it.  I can hear
> the pick-up and the line drop but no connection noises.
>
> Anyone know how I might get the sound back?  I really like the
> confirmation hearing the noise gives.

Obvious question but do you have the speaker system settings in the =
palmtop
turned on ?  (Or all the way up).

The PC-Card modems use the internal speaker of the palmtop so if you
have turned this down maybe that will stop it from working.

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On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:23:59 -0500 ,
Tamas Feher (e-tomcat@SC.BME.HU) writes

> Seems like there is a solution to a long sought LX addon: SCSIiii!
> It is called the Olympus DIMO, about 3 matchboxes big, 200grams.
> Developed for up to 10,000 pics storage on MO drive/disks for
use
> with the Olympus C-1400XL camera, it has RS-232C DB-9 on one
end
> (8-bit, no parity) and an Apple-style DB-25 SCSI on the other.

> I wonder if it's suitable for the HPLX, say for ZIP use? One
> thing I'm concerned about, that it may support only unidirec-
> tional transfer or has hardwired SCSI subset only for bad.

        I was also looking for a SCSI solution a while ago,
        and came across a PCMCIA SCSI-2 card that claims
        only 120mA current draw, and comes with drivers
        for DOS.  I subsequently decided not to go SCSI on
        the LX, but if people are interested, here are the
        specs:

                120 mA
                10 MB/s fast scsi-2
                auto-termination
                card & socket services
                dos aspi drivers, cdrom drivers

        It is carried by Corporate Systems Center
        (www.corpsys.com, 408-330-5538), and is called the

                "CSC Fastcache PCMCIA SCSI-II" card.

        They used to show it on their web page, but not
        anymore. But the last time I was at their retail
        store in Santa Clara (California) a couple of
        months ago, I saw that they still carry it,
        and it was priced at less than US$100 (I
        think $79, I can't remember).

        And no, I did not actually test it on the LX.



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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:34:00 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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>                 120 mA
>                 10 MB/s fast scsi-2
>                 auto-termination
>                 card & socket services
>                 dos aspi drivers, cdrom drivers
>
>         It is carried by Corporate Systems Center
>         (www.corpsys.com, 408-330-5538), and is called the
>
>                 "CSC Fastcache PCMCIA SCSI-II" card.
>
>         They used to show it on their web page, but not
>         anymore. But the last time I was at their retail
>         store in Santa Clara (California) a couple of
>         months ago, I saw that they still carry it,
>         and it was priced at less than US$100 (I
>         think $79, I can't remember).

whay:

If you go there again, I would sure like you to buy one of these goodies
for me.  Do you live in Santa Clara, or otherwise near the store?  Just
in case not, I'm checking out the referenced web site.

-Chris Lott

p.s.  Is your name "Whay", with an initial capital letter, or "whay", as
in e. e. cummings, the poet, who didn't capitalize his names?

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:37:42 -0600
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              99 10:24:57 am
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>         It is carried by Corporate Systems Center
>         (www.corpsys.com, 408-330-5538), and is called the
>
>                 "CSC Fastcache PCMCIA SCSI-II" card.

Not only is it not listed on their web site, there is an admonition that
they only sell to dealers, and not to individuals.  Maybe we need to place
a single quantity order???  Any others interested?  I'm pretty tempted to
get a SCSI controller for my palmtop for ~$79...

-Chris

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:47:24 -0800
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Philippe:

> People, I just saw the "Flexlite Pocket Reading Light" that Theddeus is
> selling. Well, I have one just like that, and it came for free with a pack
> of 4 VCR tapes about 5 years back. Well, let me tell you that 24.95$ is a
> pure ripoff for something like that. The only redeeming value is the fact
> that it seems to fit (or clip) just right on the side of the palmtop. But
> otherwise it's just a piece of plastic, worth probably around 5-6$.

Check out www.galaxymall.com/computer/palmtop! The guy is
also selling our products (newest dealer) - oh an BTW, also
he sells the StockChart (and he _does_ have it on his
Webpage.

His price for flexlite is better...

Best regards,

  Avi M. D&A

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Chris,

I have hesitant to respond, because not only is the customer always
right, but you are a pretty darned knowledgeable customer.  Perhaps,
that knowledge gets in the way a little.

<<Thanks.  I think I have kept these differences in mind.  I must say
that
the material I got with SSC was amazingly confusing and un-clear.  In
some
respects, the turn-key approach of SSC is good, but the potential
problems
are mind-boggling.>>

SSC was designed to be off the shelf, install in 10 minutes, and allow
the user to start using tons of strong shareware and freeware right
away.  Since I was the one who put it all together, I cannot claim
objectivity. But we have sold many hundreds with a minimum of tech
support calls. If the several pages of SSC documentation (including
"Read this first") are read, I think it is pretty straight forward.

For various support, technical and logistical reasons Ed Keefe (who
wrote the new SC manual) and I worked on the projects in parallel.  What
can be confusing and has caused problems is when users combine the
information from the SC and SSC documentation.  (We try to warn about
this in the SSC documentation).  That is why I think SC should be
installed separately when the SC tutorial is used or when some of the
tools like LOAD123 that Ed created for SC are used. Once both are
functioning well.  SCCONFIG can be used to update the SSC setup and the
SC stuff can be removed.

<<In most cases, when I have had a question I've gone back to the
original
SC manual and been able to get an answer.  I hope you include the
original
manual for those who buy a real license, not just an upgrade.>>

We greatly simplified the style and approach of the new SC manual.  But
I thought Ed did a pretty good job leaving in the info needed by users.
(There are a few DOC files on the SC master disk refereed to in the SC
manual that cover a few more obscure items.)  What items did you find in
the original manual not in the new manual?

I really don't want to be defensive or make you wrong.  Obviously, you
had less than a stellar experience and nothing I say that can change
that.

I do appreciate Avi, Stan, Jorgen and others' comments about SC.  I have
been very busy and seems there are always 300-400 messages to read on
this list for me to catch up with so I greatly appreciate (even more
than normal) others' comments and tech support on SC and upgrades.

<<Lest you read me wrong, I'm still very impressed with the package, and
I would readily recommend it to a friend (but I would be prepared to
help them install it!).  I am very pleased with my purchase, it was
significantly more complicated than I expected.>>

Thanks, and I hope this hasn't been the experience of others (extra
complication). Ed and I worked VERY VERY hard to make the SC manual and
SSC as simple to use as possible. I personally found the original
documentation almost unintelligible for a new user.  It wasn't clear how
to get started or what was needed and what was peripheral.

Hal at Thaddeus

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:23:13 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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I have DesignEase for DOS that runs on the palmtop that does experimental
designs.  For fitting the equations to the data, you can use Mystat, a
personal version of Systat.  I have version 5 of Systat for DOS that runs
on the palmtop, but I don't think SPSS sells this version anymore.  You
might contact them to ask.  You should be able to find Mystat on Simtel.
Let me know if you have problems finding Mystat and I can send you a copy.
For Design Ease, you might contact the vendor at 612.378.9449.  The Company
name is StatEase.

HTH,

Claud

At 06:36 PM 4/2/99 +0200, you wrote:
>Anyone know where I find add-in programs for Lotus 123
>ver.2.4? I'm looking for statisical and maths add-in programs
>to add more @functions and the @base add-in I read about in
>the Palmtop paper. I have searched my Cd infobase 1997 and
>the Lotus support webpage without success. I suspect these
>programs were developed by third party companies, but who
>are they and where can I contact them?  Can anyone tell me
>if there is a way to program Lotus 123 to calculate a
>factorial?
>Palmtop greetings
>Rian Maartens
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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:30:01 -0600
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To: <<Dejan Radic (writing from the bomb shelter)
Belgrade
Yugoslavia>>

Dejan,

I have replied to you personally and on this list. If people don't want
this discussion on the list, I understand.  Hopefully "Fluff" makes it
OK.

First, I find it incredible that my country is bombing yours and we can
have an email conversation.

Secondly, although in truth I am not sure what to think about the war,
it is hard to imagine the human suffering caused by all parties
involved. I think it horrible that we are bombing your country.

I have to ask you a question.  If humanly possible, put aside your anger
and resentment for the NATO/U.S. attacks and answer it as honestly as
possible.

I understand that Serbia has an historical claim on Kosovo.  I also
believe that things are not black and white -- atrocities have happened
on both sides.  However, it does seem that the Serbs have been
incredibly inhumane both in Bosnia and Kosovo. The tales of mass murder,
rape, looting and now displacing Ethnic Albanians from their homes seems
terrible to put it mildly. You have propaganda and so do we which makes
it hard to determine the truth. It does seem that Serbia is the
aggressor and its actions and "ethnic cleansing" go way beyond any
attacks on Serbs.  How can you possibly justify taking women and
children from their home, terrorizing them, robbing them of all their
possessions, burning their villages, taking away their
passport/citizenship papers?

Personally, I don't thinking bombing is the answer (nor is it in Iraq).
But I don't have any answers either to what was happening and now
accelerating in Kosovo. As a Jew, I am particularly sensitive to the
idea of the world's indifference to the innocent slaughter of a people.

Comments?

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:39:02 -0500
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Do you mean a shoulder holster or a hip holster?  I have the Opus 63
shoulder holster, but the company that made them is long gone.  The ripoff
holsters look like a nice belt-mounted choice.

If you are serious about preferring a gun-style shoulder holster, maybe you
should troll the rec.guns newsgroup for recommendations.

Alan

>From:  Philippe Lewis SMTP:p.lewis@USA.NET
>Sent:  Friday, April 02, 1999 12:38 PM
>Subject:       Re: Holster Case
>
>Hello! Does anyone know if they still sell the 200LX holster (looks like a
>gun holster, but with a 200LX case) anywhere?

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Hi-

I have noticed that my 200LX is beginning to loosen up but
I cannot see where the screw is.  The lower left corner
of the keyboard is not well attached to the base unit.  Is
there a screw beneath the little rubber foot?  If not,
where should I look for this loose screw?

Thanks in advance.

Dennis Bell
Seattle


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> SSC was designed to be off the shelf, install in 10 minutes, and allow
> the user to start using tons of strong shareware and freeware right
> away.  Since I was the one who put it all together, I cannot claim
> objectivity. But we have sold many hundreds with a minimum of tech
> support calls. If the several pages of SSC documentation (including
> "Read this first") are read, I think it is pretty straight forward.

I did read all this material, in the order given.  I only "cross
pollination" I did was to copy over the new CAROUSEL.PRG file, as
instructed.

> For various support, technical and logistical reasons Ed Keefe (who
> wrote the new SC manual) and I worked on the projects in parallel.  What
> can be confusing and has caused problems is when users combine the
> information from the SC and SSC documentation.  (We try to warn about
> this in the SSC documentation).  That is why I think SC should be
> installed separately when the SC tutorial is used or when some of the
> tools like LOAD123 that Ed created for SC are used. Once both are
> functioning well.  SCCONFIG can be used to update the SSC setup and the
> SC stuff can be removed.

I was mostly insterested in bare-bones SC.  The only reason I ordered
the SSC was to get and have a look at the pre-configured HDM sessions
and applications you put together for SSC.  Other than these pre-defined
HDM sessions, I guess I don't see what is imcompatible between the
SC and SSC products.  (And maybe this has been my problem).  For example,
when I want to work through some of the examples in the tutorial, I
would just copy over the provided .bat file (say DOS2.BAT), and edit it
to be sure that the directories are all correct, and assign it to a
spare work area.  If there is really some fundamental difference between
SC and SSC, I would like to learn about it.

I had always thought, and still would think it best, if SSC was just a
superset of SC - i.e., it just included additional pre-configured
work areas.

> What items did you find in the original manual not in the new manual?

There was a section in the SC manual where they addressed the question
"what does a low-pitched beep mean?"  I was having this problem, and
didn't see any mention of it in your documentation (I just may have
overlooked it, however).  To address your comment about the original
SC manual, I have observed that to me, the book that Ed put together
is an EXCELLENT tutorial on SC, but have found the original book to
be a better REFERENCE manual.  And maybe there's some confusion about
this "original" manual.  Mine is a bright yellow, thin, paperback manual
by Sunshine.  I don't have the original version number, but it was
dated May 1996 and I have SN 72687025.

I appreciate the feedback, and as I've indicated, I intend to get this
working.  My original intention has been to make modifications to the
SSC package to better fit my working habits and needs.  I was hoping
to use the extras in SSC to learn how to implement HDM on my palmtop,
and also to provide me some new applications that I don't already have.
If I learn, of course, that SC and SSC are incompatible in some way,
I'll abandon this approach.

Right now, through the comments of some folks on this list, I'm wondering
if the problems are TSR related.  I'll have to wait until I do some
serious experimenting to find out...

-Chris

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Hi Chris,

<<Other than these pre-defined
HDM sessions, I guess I don't see what is imcompatible between the
SC and SSC products.  (And maybe this has been my problem). >>

There should be no incompatibility.  SSC is a superset of SC. The only
difference is in how we instruct users to set things up.

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Dennis Bell wrote:
> I have noticed that my 200LX is beginning to loosen up but
> I cannot see where the screw is.  The lower left corner
> of the keyboard is not well attached to the base unit.  Is
> there a screw beneath the little rubber foot?  If not,
> where should I look for this loose screw?

Yes, all four rubber feet cover screws.  And yes, the lower left one
seems to be the most comon one to go first.  You will need a relatively
hard to get but obtainable Torx T-6 to tighten it up again, if the hole
isn't stripped like mine.

On that note, is there someone on the list who bought the spare parts
kit that could give/sell me a screw or two?  I ordered the parts kit a
long time ago and there were no screws in it.  I'm in Boston, if a
physical handoff is feasible.

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Subject:      Help locate duplicate file utility
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Please help me re-find a disk utility I used to have.  When you look for
duplicate files on a drive, it's common to find files that have the same
name.  Finddupe and several others do this.

What I had was a program that looked at the size and contents to see if they
were identical.  Now, I can't remember if this was a DOS utility or maybe a
Windows program, but I cannot seem to locate it at all.

I think it generated a checksum or CRC for every file and only listed the
ones that actually had the same size and matched contents, regardless of
whether they were named the same.

Anybody remember it?  Anybody got it?

TIA,
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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:14:14 -0700
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              John Evans - N0HJ <jaevans@CODENET.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light
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A Meshar wrote:

> Check out www.galaxymall.com/computer/palmtop!

Can anyone verify this URL?  It doesn't work for me at
this end!!

tnx,
john

-- John A. Evans, N0HJ -- jaevans@codenet.net

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:27:38 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light
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His price, at $19.95, is somewhat better than $24.95.  However, Mitch sold
these for $6 to $8 (and I bought one).  What caused the price to go up so
much?

At 10:47 AM 4/2/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Philippe:
>
>> People, I just saw the "Flexlite Pocket Reading Light" that Theddeus is
>> selling. Well, I have one just like that, and it came for free with a pack
>> of 4 VCR tapes about 5 years back. Well, let me tell you that 24.95$ is a
>> pure ripoff for something like that. The only redeeming value is the fact
>> that it seems to fit (or clip) just right on the side of the palmtop. But
>> otherwise it's just a piece of plastic, worth probably around 5-6$.
>
>Check out www.galaxymall.com/computer/palmtop! The guy is
>also selling our products (newest dealer) - oh an BTW, also
>he sells the StockChart (and he _does_ have it on his
>Webpage.
>
>His price for flexlite is better...
>
>Best regards,
>
>  Avi M. D&A
>
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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:39:33 -0800
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:39:02 -0500, "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIONEER-STAN=
DARD.COM> wrote:

> Do you mean a shoulder holster or a hip holster?  I have the Opus 63
> shoulder holster, but the company that made them is long gone.  The =
ripoff
> holsters look like a nice belt-mounted choice.
>
> If you are serious about preferring a gun-style shoulder holster, maybe =
you
> should troll the rec.guns newsgroup for recommendations.
>
> Alan

What I did was modify a set of suspenders then connected it to my
Ripoff case works great once you get use to it. It also looks cool and
I never leave home without it!

One thing though, don't ever forget to secure the Ripoff flap after you =
put
the palmtop inside. Need I say more!

Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
hp 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:36:58 -0600
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Buddy in mult. Software Carousel sessions?
Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Hi Tim,

I see this was an old message, but I didn't see it answered.


<<Current Setup: Thad. upgrade (BIG Swapped C: drive) w/ doublespeed and
SuperSoftware Carousel.

1) Buddy works in only the base session CTL-1 of SC. How do I enable
it in
the other or selective other sessions?>>

Almost all Buddy features work only in System Manager (CTRL-1).  I doubt
if there are any Buddy features that will work with the CTRL 2, apps, or
CTRL-3, Games. To install Buddy in a session, include it in the batch
file that starts the session. (For example, \sc-hdm\apps.bat starts the
CTRL 2, apps session.

<<2) How do I add a 4th SC session to swap in and out of?>>

Start SCCONFIG (from CTRL 2, apps).  Add session for by updating  "Work
Area" and add more disk space in "Resource Pool".  See SC manual on
SCCONFIG for more details.

<<3) I see, by the Thaddeus documentation, that Zoom comes w/ the Super
Software Carousel, how do I enable it?>>

Alt MORE.  I STRONGLY recommend viewing the SSC help file (the same in
CTRL 2 and CTRL 3) or print it out from the CD.  At least look at the
starred sections.

<<4) <A "dumb" question> Will MaxDos and/or the EMM drivers avail for
the 200
help me much and when should I use them plus will they crash SC and how
do
I enable them in one or more or all sessions?>>

Not dumb.  Both will work although many people find them unnecessary.
EMM may speed up task switching just a bit.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:40:46 -0500
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM>
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I found it myself, just shortly after I posted the request.

It's called Twinfind.  There was originally a DOS version (from 1994) and
now there is also a Windows version (from 1997).  The Windows version is
available from the ZDnet library for free.  I have the DOS version from an
old CD-ROM.

The following description came with the DOS file:

What is ZDI's TwinFind Utility

Twinfind is a simple DOS command line utility that allows
you to search multiple paths and drives for duplicate files.
The search matches on CRC not on file name, date or time
which can often be different.  Output can be directed to
another program or to an ASCII text file.

The description below applies to the Windows version:

ZD Net's TwinFind for Windows allows you to identify duplicate files on your
hard disk. You can archive, rename, or delete the results of your searches.
It bases its matches not on filename or a time/date stamp, but on size and a
cyclical redundancy check (CRC). TwinFind provides a fast way to locate
unwanted duplicates that are needlessly using valuable hard disk space.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:36:18 EST
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From:         Cathy Schilm <CSchlim@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light
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The following is correct...you might have copied the ! mark..this worked for
me:


www.galaxymall.com/computer/palmtop

Cathy

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:10:15 EST
Reply-To:     tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: I've almost had it.

> Claud: Whoever spoofed my email DEFINITELY wanted it on the
> list!!! What a great way to embarrass me! Check the date,
> check the style, etc... It was not posted by me. Someone
> uses my name and email address etc. He/she has done it
> before to another list member (Peter Border, I believe!).
>
> I use Rocochet exclusively lately and have no access to the
> server where this was posted.
>

Yep, I got "hit" last time, I wish you better luck in tracking down
the jerk that did this to you than I had. Too bad the list couldn't
be set up to only allow ONE person per name to be subscribed, seems
logical to me at least.

Pete

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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: 120 mA PCMCIA SCSI-2 (LX SCSI addon)

> Not only is it not listed on their web site, there is an admonition that
> they only sell to dealers, and not to individuals.  Maybe we need to place
> a single quantity order???  Any others interested?  I'm pretty tempted to
> get a SCSI controller for my palmtop for ~$79...
>
> -Chris
>

I have bought lots of stuff from them and unless they have changed
their policy in the last few months they do sell to individuals. I
even have one of their nifty disk duplicators / testers for work.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:16:51 -0500
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Hello.

Saw your note about the Palmtop case. Sounds like the one I used for
quite some time. It was made by PalmTree Products. It was made of a
heavy "leatherette" - although I beleive they made a leather one also.
It had a webbed belt loop on the back. That's the good news. The bad
news is they no longer make the Leatherette version, instead they have
one in leather, in a "new larger size" - - in other words not 200lx
specific. I beleive it has a "clip" rather than a loop. They are on the
web at:

http://www.harb.net/PalmTreeProductsInc./index.htm

Regards,

Larry Feldman
LFeldman@USA.NET

Hmmm.... You got me looking again. That new one may not be so bad - and
at $29.95 not unreasonable. Maybe I'll order one.... I just never liked
belt "clips". Anybody have one?

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:38:48 -0800
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              Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Sure, I'd get one for $79.  Count me in.

Brian Sugita
kaervek@ix.netcom.com

At 12:37 PM 4/2/99 -0600, you wrote:
>>         It is carried by Corporate Systems Center
>>         (www.corpsys.com, 408-330-5538), and is called the
>>
>>                 "CSC Fastcache PCMCIA SCSI-II" card.
>
>Not only is it not listed on their web site, there is an admonition that
>they only sell to dealers, and not to individuals.  Maybe we need to place
>a single quantity order???  Any others interested?  I'm pretty tempted to
>get a SCSI controller for my palmtop for ~$79...

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:41:48 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Loose screws . . .
Comments: To: Dennis Bell <doppelbike@USA.NET>
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Hi Dennis,

Hey a fellow Seattlelite LX'er. Cool.  Yup the screws are under the
little feet and are torx #6 bits I think??  Sometimes the screw
is not loose but the screw anchor inside is broken loose.  If you
tighten the screw and it doesn't work you can fix the anchor inside
with a bit a super glue sometimes.  Good luck!

Brian Sugita
kaervek@ix.netcom.com


At 11:45 AM 4/2/99 PST, you wrote:
>Hi-
>
>I have noticed that my 200LX is beginning to loosen up but
>I cannot see where the screw is.  The lower left corner
>of the keyboard is not well attached to the base unit.  Is
>there a screw beneath the little rubber foot?  If not,
>where should I look for this loose screw?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Dennis Bell
>Seattle

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:44:39 -0800
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I almost bought one of these, but just before I did. I got one free
from my friends little girl.  She had gotten it free in her McDonalds
happy meal.  The only difference is it says "Harriet the Spy" on the
side of it.  I've been to lazy to paint over it. :)

Brian Sugita
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Subject:      Turn-off program
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Mitch,

Please find enclosed a 7 bytes switch-off program for inclusion on Super =
as
well as the source code to be assembled with A86 assembler.

>I need a small COM file (under 1kb) that turns the palmtop off.

begin 644 off.com
'N`!"S17-(```
`
end

Jorgen


; Switch hp200lx off.  (A86 assembler)
main:
        mov ax,4200h            ; al=3D0 use system profile
        ;mov ax,4201h            ; al=3D1 force suspend
        int 15h
        int 20h

  =

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:00:46 -0800
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Is it just me, or is everybody having trouble downloading from SUPER?  The
problem seems to be that www.thaddeus.com isn't working...

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:41:07 -0500
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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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> David Sargeant

> I run WP with BuddyDOS... and it seems to kill the Alt-= key combination.
> Is there a way to edit a macro directly?

Yes, there is a separate macro editor program,
and if a macro exists, and you try to create
one with the same name, one of the options it
to edit the old one.  There _should_ be a more
direct way to edit a macro, but I haven't found
it.

Steve

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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Mo'dem Woes

Checked speaker volume on palmtop.  Not the problem.

Another suggestion was that I duplicate the conditions in which the modem
worked and watch closely for when it stopped working.  So far, the only
condition that "works" is wiping everything clean and beginning anew.  On
the palmtop, all batteries out for several minutes works sometimes; on
the desktop, a complete reformat sometimes works.  Note though that I say
sometimes - it doesn't always work.

I use the built in DataComm program on the palmtop and ProComm or
Digital's Pathworks on the desktops/laptop.

I'll try the pass through test and see what happens.

This is really annoying to me as any machine I touch looses the modem
noise.  I'm not an experienced enough user to be purposefully resetting
anything.

Thanks for the replies.

Larry Zimmerman

PS - The 200lx is still for sale in case anyone is interested.

On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:18:57 +0100 Stu Foster <sfml1@IBM.NET> writes:
>Obvious question but do you have the speaker system settings in the =
>palmtop
>turned on ?  (Or all the way up).


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Hi James Gill,


<<I have an upgraded (32meg) palmtop. I am using Super Software
Carousel.
Beyond the applications that were installed by Thaddeus for SSC, I've
never been able to get other programs to run i.e. Dictionary, Spanish,
etc... I always get a message that there is not enough memory. I know
that this is just lack of knowledge on my part as it works for others.
Should I be using tremm? If so how is it used?>>

You can either add the Dictionaries (or other DOS sw) to existing menus
(CTRL 2 and CTRL 3) -- note there is room for 2 screens worth of stuff
in each menu.  Or you can create a new SC session.

The easiest thing to do is from, say Ctrl 2 APPS HDM screen, press F2
Add.  Then fill out form in same way you would fill out Appmanager form
(with name of application and Path).  Check "B/W Mono" on the
dictionaries under display. F10 saves it. You'll find an icon for your
new application on the second HDM page. (HDM is the name of the menu
program with the icons). You can move the ICON for your new app to first
page with the ORDER (F7) key, by deleting (F4) unused apps, or by
alphabetically sorting MENU Application Sort.

Alternatively you can go to SCCONFIG found in CTRL 2 APPS.  There you
would create a 4th SSC session by filling out session 4 screen in "Work
Areas" and by adding disk space in "Memory Pool".  See SC manual for
details or press help (F1) in SCCONFIG.  If you want a new HDM menu for
CTRL 4, the easiest thing is to mimic the \sc-apps\apps.bat batch file.

Good luck.

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Sears has this tool.  I think it has a green "spinner" cap on it.  Look out,
so does the #7 Torx driver.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Kramer SMTP:david@KRAMER.NE.MEDIAONE.NET
>
        <snip>

> You will need a relatively
> hard to get but obtainable Torx T-6 to tighten it up again, if the hole
> isn't stripped like mine.
>
        <snip>

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Don't paint it.  The fact it has something fun on it only makes it better.
:)
Imagine yourself sitting in the dark, waiting for a ride home from someplace
uh... dark.  You turn on your Harriet The Spy, palmtop light and in the
darkness and solitude you are possessed to write (on your palmtop) a
riveting novel.  Or perhaps you are possessed to find that missing link to
Outlook, or you happen upon the cure for computer cancer (windows)... you
never know.  :)

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Sugita SMTP:kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM
>
> I almost bought one of these, but just before I did. I got one free
> from my friends little girl.  She had gotten it free in her McDonalds
> happy meal.  The only difference is it says "Harriet the Spy" on the
> side of it.  I've been to lazy to paint over it. :)
>
> Brian Sugita
> kaervek@ix.netcom.com
>

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:18:42 -0800
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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@LIVECOMM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: 120 mA PCMCIA SCSI-2 (LX SCSI addon)
Comments: To: Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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I'd take one for $79 too.

Karl

At 01:38 PM 4/2/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Sure, I'd get one for $79.  Count me in.
>
>Brian Sugita
>kaervek@ix.netcom.com
>
>At 12:37 PM 4/2/99 -0600, you wrote:
>>>         It is carried by Corporate Systems Center
>>>         (www.corpsys.com, 408-330-5538), and is called the
>>>
>>>                 "CSC Fastcache PCMCIA SCSI-II" card.
>>
>>Not only is it not listed on their web site, there is an admonition that
>>they only sell to dealers, and not to individuals.  Maybe we need to place
>>a single quantity order???  Any others interested?  I'm pretty tempted to
>>get a SCSI controller for my palmtop for ~$79...
>
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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:19:51 -0600
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Oh, good god man, the nerve of it!  You posted a binary to the list!!!  Look
2 lines of UUencode is just pushing the limit!

Ok, now the serious reply.  Bravo!  Real programming, thanks!  I never get
tired of it when someone actually uses skill and not some bloated
development environment.

Thanks,

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jorgen Dybdahl SMTP:JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM
>
        <snip>

> Please find enclosed a 7 bytes switch-off program for inclusion on Super
> as
> well as the source code to be assembled with A86 assembler.
>
> begin 644 off.com
> 'N`!"S17-(```
> `
> end
>
> Jorgen
>
>
> ; Switch hp200lx off.  (A86 assembler)
> main:
>         mov ax,4200h            ; al=0 use system profile
>         ;mov ax,4201h            ; al=1 force suspend
>         int 15h
>         int 20h
>

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:43:30 -0800
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> Imagine yourself sitting in the dark, waiting for a ride home from someplace
> uh... dark.  You turn on your Harriet The Spy, palmtop light and in the
> darkness and solitude you are possessed to write (on your palmtop) a
> riveting novel.  Or perhaps you are possessed to find that missing link to
> Outlook, or you happen upon the cure for computer cancer (windows)... you
> never know.  :)

More like a couple of thugs see you sitting in the dark, typing on a
tiny computer illuminated by a kids "Harriet The Spy" flashlight and
decide to beat the daylights out of you just for kicks.. <grin>

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On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Steven Lawson wrote:

> More like a couple of thugs see you sitting in the dark, typing on a
> tiny computer illuminated by a kids "Harriet The Spy" flashlight and
> decide to beat the daylights out of you just for kicks.. <grin>

That's a real problem over here in Vegas, too.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:53:38 -0800
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              Ian Butler <ian@HPLX.NET>
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On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote:

> People, I just saw the "Flexlite Pocket Reading Light" that Theddeus is
> selling. Well, I have one just like that, and it came for free with a pack
> of 4 VCR tapes about 5 years back. Well, let me tell you that 24.95$ is a
> pure ripoff for something like that. The only redeeming value is the fact
> that it seems to fit (or clip) just right on the side of the palmtop. But
> otherwise it's just a piece of plastic, worth probably around 5-6$.
>
> Philippe :)

Personally, I like to use my 4 D-cell Mag-Lite to light the palmtop (or
anything else (or everything else :)) in the dark.  And, if I remember
right, it was also $25.  It comes in a sturdy (as in, tank-like) spun
aluminum painted black, and has advanced features such as a power switch and
twist-to-focus.

But what bugs me about Thaddeus is the $30 car adapter which is non-filtered
and frickin' USED.  Now, this adapter is manufactured from quality bargain
bins, I'm sure, because you need a grand total of three parts to make the
same adapter yourself:

1. A cigarette lighter plug.
2. A zip cord.
3. A barrel power connector.

You see, that's $10 per part, and I know for a fact that the second
ingredient in this little concoction costs $5 for 20-30 feet of it.  So
where do they come up with $30?  There's only one answer: a profit margin of
at least 300%.

Don't get me wrong: Thaddeus is a great company.  They're just a bit
overpriced.  Well, a lot overpriced.  Except for the NiMH batteries, which
are worth twice as much. <g>

Ian Butler <ian@hplx.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.,
Peace love sunshine Volkswagen

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 18:48:34 -0500
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      Re: Buddy in mult. Software Carousel sessions?
Comments: To: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <B0AB4DD57CD5D1118A230060975A10051D1B06@mailhost.thaddeus.com>

->Almost all Buddy features work only in System Manager (CTRL-1).  I
->doubt if there are any Buddy features that will work with the CTRL 2,
->apps, or CTRL-3, Games. To install Buddy in a session, include it in
->the batch file that starts the session. (For example, \sc-hdm\apps.bat
->starts the CTRL 2, apps session.

Actually I believe you can use buddy in pure DOS sessions by using the
(inlcuded) file BUDDYDOS.


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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:26:21 -0500
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              Bill Sprague <eugarps@IBM.NET>
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Owen,

If you're serious about a mouse for your HP200LX, please consider the
Thumbellina by Fellows.  Dave Shier installed an HP200LX plug on one for me
and it works great with Choice Computing's CADD program.

Best,

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: Owen Kalau <owenk@CANUCK.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 10:00 PM
Subject: compaq dynamouse


> wonder if you could use this for the HP200lx... <g>
>
> http://www.compaq.com.au/dynamouse/productinfo.html
>
> Hmm... it _is_ april 1st...
>
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43m54s ago ...
On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Phil Drummond wrote:

> Oh, good god man, the nerve of it!  You posted a binary to the list!!! =
 Look
> 2 lines of UUencode is just pushing the limit!

     OK, That's it! I'm tossing him off. Meanwhile, you get the Tar &
Feathers...

> > -----Original Message-----
> ...
>
> begin 644 off.com
> > 'N`!"S17-(```
> > `
> > end
> >
> > ; Switch hp200lx off.  (A86 assembler)
> > main:
> >         mov ax,4200h            ; al=3D0 use system profile
> >         ;mov ax,4201h            ; al=3D1 force suspend
> >         int 15h
> >         int 20h
>

     Oh, fine...now it's on twice! You know I have to pay $.30/MB for
disk space on this server! Please stop this rampent waste!

P.S. As always, Nice job Jorgen! Thanks.

Cheers,

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 01:11:05 GMT
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              Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
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At various times I have bought flashcards and SCSI drives from CSC
without problems. However if I remember correctly Mark Scardinia, the
sysop of HPHAND and former guru from Ace has indicated that the pcmcia
port in the LX series lacks something which prevents any SCSI card from
working (I know I tried an Adaptec card without success).

My memory is hazy these days - perhaps my recollection will jog someone
elses memory.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 20:25:17 -0500
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Fri,  2 Apr 1999 20:19:10 -0500 (EST)

52m47s ago ...
On Sat,  3 Apr 1999, Bill Sprague wrote:

> If you're serious about a mouse for your HP200LX, please consider the
> Thumbellina by Fellows.  Dave Shier installed an HP200LX plug on one =
for me

Another cool pointing device for the 200LX is the Cirque EasyCat
touchpad.  Costs more than Thumbelina, but works very well.  Guess it
depends on whether you prefer rodents, trackballs, or touchpads...

I'm thinking of either ordering the DigiKey parts for the plug or
having Shier do it.  Should be very nice to connect directly without an
adapter cable.

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 02:44:54 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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I think that is the Palmtree leather case.  I have it, too, and would like another.

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:02:14 +0100
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              Laurence Harvey <laurence@HARVEY-L.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
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> Gold Peak Industries, Singapore has recently released 1500 mAH NiMH
> batteries at around US$7 per pair.
>
> The charge time is indicated as 14 hours @ 150 mA. Has anyone tried these
> in the HP-LXs? These are the highest capacity NiMH batteries that I have
> seen. If the self-discharge rate is not significant and the palmtop is
able
> to charge them, these batteries could be very useful for our purpose.

I have been using these batteries for about a year now and thoroughly
recommend them. They certainly gave a significant increase in run time
between charges over the 950mAH NiCads I was using before, and after a year
there is no obvious degradation in capacity. Only issue is that you will
really need ABC/LX to control charging. I have found it takes a full 16
hours on high charge, followed bay around 5 hours of trickle charge to fully
charge them from flat.

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:01:37 +0100
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I have not been able to access my EMail for a couple of weeks so please
excuse any late replies. I have been experimenting with the front light LED
idea myself and hope the following input may be useful.

Having tried most colours of LED (high brightness variants) - red, green
yellow, orange & white it is clear that the only suitable colour is white.
This is much better than any coloured light.

The serial output port on the Palmtop has 3 outputs which can drive the LED,
of which I have made some current measurements and found that the output
with the highest current drive appears to be the DTR output - pin 4 on the
Palmtop, or pin 6 on the Connectivity cable. Connect the LED from this pin
to pin 5 (Ground), same pin used on Palmtop and connectivity cable for
ground.

As somebody has already suggested, it is almost certainly acceptable to not
use a series limiting resistor. RS232 drivers are designed for most
eventualities. I can't remember how many times I've connected RS232 cables
wrongly, output connected to inputs, outputs to ground etc and never have
destroyed one. As a test, I left my LED on for around 5 hours driven by the
Palmtop and nothing broke.

I have been using a 400mcd white LED (from Maplin Electronics here in the
UK) and connected to the DTR pin takes around 9mA, this results in a light
bright enough to work with and brighter (and whiter) than the light
generated by the clip on lights sold by Mitch/Palmtop Network. The LED is
actually rated at 25mA so could be brighter, but the Palmtop cannot supply
that much current

I have made up a simple assembly which seems to work fine - a 6" long stiff
wire with the LED and a diffuser over it  at one end and a thin tail wire at
the other end (2" long), and a much thinner wire to connect to the other leg
of the LED. The two thin wires then wired into a connector which plugs into
the serial port (connector available from RS in the UK). Heatshrink sleeving
over the whole assembly tidies it up. At the joint at the end of the thick
wire I have glued on a plastic clip which clips over the edge of the display
and therefore hold the lamp assembly - you can the bend the thick wire
around to provide the correct illumination with the weight being taken by
the clip. The thin wire to the serial port prevents any strain on the serial
port connector and circuit board inside. Hope this all makes sense.

Claud G. Cameron wrote:
>Would the LEDs get better battery life than the current bulb used in the
>clip-on lights (the ones that clip onto the screen of the LX's)?  I have
>one of these and it goes through a set of batteries fairly quickly.
>Doesn't seem like it would take much expertise to adapt these (even I could
>do it).  Alternatively, can the "gooseneck" and lens be purchased somewhere
>separately for use with the serial port (or cannabilized from one of the
>lights)?
I tried this option but it did not work. The LED I have used requires a
voltage of 2.5V to turn it on. The fully charged NiMH cells I use in my clip
on light only manage about 2.4V, so the LED never actually turns on. I do
not know if all white LEDs have this high an on voltage but mine certainly
did not work. It is worth noting that the current taken by the bulb on the
clip on light is around 270mA, yet the LED takes only 10mA - so there would
be a massive saving in battery consumption.

The high turn on voltage of the white LED would also probably prevent
driving it from either the main Palmtop batteries, or the backup battery.

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 06:48:32 -0500
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>>I searched the CD Infobase for @base

Searching for Merkle & base shows the article in the Sept/Oct, '96 issue.=

It's full of references to @base.  The search engine doesn't like "@" I
guess.

In the meantime, here are a couple of workarounds.
1. Simstat35e (711K) from Simtel (www.simtel.com and bounce to the new
site).
2. HP Calc has a factorial function in the Math app. It also has a STOCEL=
L
function that could be used in a solver equation to put the factorials in=

1-2-3. Not an elegant solution: just a workaround. Or simply press the
factorial key and then STO N Spacebar and drop the result in a
spreadsheet. The List app also has some simple stat capabilities. =

3. Here's a spreadsheet that will find factorials up to 69
    =

    \F           {Let ANS,1}{For cntr,start,stop,step,sub}
    ANS                             5040       <-factorial appears here
    CNTR                                8
    START                               1
    STOP                              7       <-your number here
    STEP                                 1
    SUB      {Let ans, ans*cntr}
       
    Menu Rng Name Label Right
    Put the number in the indicated cell, press ALT+F and Enter.
4.   For lots of factorials, and faster computations, create a table of
numbers and their factorials and use @HLOOKUP(  ) in your formulas.

.ed.PTP

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:12:43 +0200
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
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If I were Dejan, I would not answer to such a mail, because *everybody* can
read it .....

-goe-

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:09:24 +0200
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<>Okay... anybody care to make a special TSR... Stefan?  <g>


Before programming a TSR, tell me the key-scancodes of the desired keys.
Give me a table like this:

key  -- original scancode -- effect
Menukey -- =/&/%% -- opens menu

It *should* be possible!

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:56:19 +0200
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You need no special TSR for this. WP is the expert for such keyboard
layouts.
I have to find my old macro handbook with the special WP variables first, to
help you.

-goe-



-----Original Message-----
From: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Donnerstag, 1. April 1999 20:27
Subject: Keys in WP51


>Does anybody have any ideas on redefining the keyboard in WP51 to be more
>palmtop-friendly?  Such as, the menu key selecting the menu... Shift+arrow
>key combinations marking text... Fn+Copy and the other "clipboard" keys
>working... And things like that?  How about for allowing combinations like
>Alt+F to select the File menu?  (Currently I have to do "Alt" and then F,
>as pressing them together produces a "macro not found" error.)
>
>Any solutions would be appreciated.  Even a special TSR.  <g>
>
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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 02:39:57 -0500
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>How about a 524k Visual Basic version for those with big thumbs?

Ah, a Microsoft version. I thought about it (well, perhaps not before
you suggested it, but immediately afterwards). It would be possible if
one increases the automatic timeout to something like 25 mins to avoid
that the machine switches itself off automatically before the program
gets round to do it.

Jorgen
  =

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 23:24:51 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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I apologize for getting sucked into this - sorry for suspecting you really
had a temper <g>.  Actually, I'm serious about the apology.  I really leapt
before I looked.

At 03:43 PM 4/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
>A:
>
>Sonuvabitchin idiots are driving me f***ing insane!  What did I do to
deserve this?  And then, just so we don't lose a few of the less sensible
customers, I have to throw my but on the floor and beg for mercy like some
kind of 90-pound jerk.  But at least business won't go down.
>
>Still, I can not believe the incredible idiocy I am surrounded by.  First
the "customers" complain about the high prices we charge, not understanding
that this is a high-margin business because there are so few customers.
Barflebits!  They find our products difficult to use and they do not
understand our upgrade policies because they do not read the documentation.
 If they would only take some time to carefully read the RTF*M or readme
files for each product we would cut our support requests in half. But we
can not even depend on palmtoppers to show faint signs of intelligence
these days.  I am ready to give up the business as it is more trouble than
it is worth.  I would advise that you stop work on the new products
immediately as I will not sell them anymore.  The SSL version of WWW/LX we
will release as freeware but the other products we will sell to a different
vendor.  Let them deal with the headaches.
>
>BTW, Andreas, that code "user: NOBODY s/n: 16418" does work for WWW/LX
1.x.  It a damngood thing no one can get 1.x anymore or we would have a
sh*t load of pirates handing out our stuff.
>
>
>  Avi M.
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How about a 524k Visual Basic version for those with big thumbs?

Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:

> Mitch,
>
> Please find enclosed a 7 bytes switch-off program for inclusion on Super as
> well as the source code to be assembled with A86 assembler.
>
> >I need a small COM file (under 1kb) that turns the palmtop off.
>
> begin 644 off.com
> 'N`!"S17-(```
> `
> end
>
> Jorgen
>
> ; Switch hp200lx off.  (A86 assembler)
> main:
>         mov ax,4200h            ; al=0 use system profile
>         ;mov ax,4201h            ; al=1 force suspend
>         int 15h
>         int 20h
>
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A starting place... PC Magazine probably has such a utility in one of their old
utility disks. I am sending separately a list of utilities that I pulled off a
BBS a few years back with hundred of PC Mag utilities.

Check out "repeats". If that tickles your innards, I'll send it.

"Striegel, Alan" wrote:

> Please help me re-find a disk utility I used to have.  When you look for
> duplicate files on a drive, it's common to find files that have the same
> name.  Finddupe and several others do this.
>
> What I had was a program that looked at the size and contents to see if they
> were identical.  Now, I can't remember if this was a DOS utility or maybe a
> Windows program, but I cannot seem to locate it at all.
>
> I think it generated a checksum or CRC for every file and only listed the
> ones that actually had the same size and matched contents, regardless of
> whether they were named the same.
>
> Anybody remember it?  Anybody got it?
>
> TIA,
> Alan
>
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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:26:35 -0700
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Is there a way to connect a Motorola Microtac Lite II to any modem without
buying an expensive data cable? Or is there an interface that is necessary.
Special software. I would not like to be locked into a particular modem. Is
there something I can build or wire up?

I an naive when it comes to this application.

I have a US Robotics World Port 9600 modem that runs off a 9V battery that I
would like to hook up to my cell phone so I could check email. There must be a
way without buying Motorola's expensive data converter?

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:19:02 -0700
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I've had a Futura 30 from E&B cases. It has protected from a couple of "light"
drops. It is about as small as you can get and still provide some protection.
I am not associated with E&B, I just like their 200LX case. You may have to
call them because not all items are on their web sight. Think they also have a
holster affair.

 http://www.ebcases.com/store/scripts/store.exe/

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

"R. Christopher Lott" wrote:

> Where's a good place to buy leather cases these days?  For the palmtop
> computer, that is?  My current case was purchased from Educalc years
> ago, and is starting to show some signs of wear.  I would really like
> to get a similar one, but have no idea who the original mfr is.  I
> have seen and tried the ripoff cases, but don't like them.  The one I
> have is simple black leather with zipper around the top 1/2.  It has
> one pocket inside for PCMCIA card(s) and one on the outside for misc
> stuff.  Here's a crude diagram:
>
>                         / <--- Zipper Tab
>                        /
>      /----------------0****************
>      |                       :         * <-- *'s indicate zipper
>      |                       :         *     travel around case
>      |                       :         *
>      |                       :         *
>      |                       :         *
>      |                       :         *
>      |                       : <-------*------- Outside Pocket
>      |                       :         *       (Inside pocket is on
>      \-----------------****************         the opposite side)
>
> --
>
> ************************************************************************
> R. Christopher Lott, P.E.                                  rclott@ro.com
> Huntsville, Alabama
> ************************************************************************
>
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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:29:58 -0800
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On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 Cavendishl@aol.com wrote:

> Ian, when they go from $24 to $48 for 4, I'll remember where they got the
> idea.
>
>         8)  I agree.  They are great.
>
> Lynn M. Cavendish

The great part for me was getting them by winning an hplx.net contest
(before I became an ineligible member :) and Thaddeus gracefully sent them
to me even though it was $5 over my $20 credit.  Thaddeus is definitely
courteous, if terribly overpriced on most items.

Ian Butler <ian@hplx.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.,
Peace love sunshine Volkswagen

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:09:09 -0800
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Great idea! Can you put a picture somewhere and instructions about the
modification?

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Holster Case


On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:39:02 -0500, "Striegel, Alan"
<Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM> wrote:

> Do you mean a shoulder holster or a hip holster?  I have the Opus 63
> shoulder holster, but the company that made them is long gone.  The ripoff
> holsters look like a nice belt-mounted choice.
>
> If you are serious about preferring a gun-style shoulder holster, maybe
you
> should troll the rec.guns newsgroup for recommendations.
>
> Alan

What I did was modify a set of suspenders then connected it to my
Ripoff case works great once you get use to it. It also looks cool and
I never leave home without it!

One thing though, don't ever forget to secure the Ripoff flap after you put
the palmtop inside. Need I say more!

Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
hp 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:07:20 -0800
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From:         Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
Subject:      Re: Loose screws . . .
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I've got the kit with the extra screws. The Torx T-6 can be found at Sears
(that's where I got it anyway...)

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: David Kramer <david@KRAMER.NE.MEDIAONE.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: Loose screws . . .


> Dennis Bell wrote:
> > I have noticed that my 200LX is beginning to loosen up but
> > I cannot see where the screw is.  The lower left corner
> > of the keyboard is not well attached to the base unit.  Is
> > there a screw beneath the little rubber foot?  If not,
> > where should I look for this loose screw?
>
> Yes, all four rubber feet cover screws.  And yes, the lower left one
> seems to be the most comon one to go first.  You will need a relatively
> hard to get but obtainable Torx T-6 to tighten it up again, if the hole
> isn't stripped like mine.
>
> On that note, is there someone on the list who bought the spare parts
> kit that could give/sell me a screw or two?  I ordered the parts kit a
> long time ago and there were no screws in it.  I'm in Boston, if a
> physical handoff is feasible.
>
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Yes, it's the shoulder holster. The problem with the hip holster is that it
moves too much around and looks a *bit* too dorky for my taste -- especially
with the cellphone and pager on the same belt...

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Striegel, Alan <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Holster Case


> Do you mean a shoulder holster or a hip holster?  I have the Opus 63
> shoulder holster, but the company that made them is long gone.  The ripoff
> holsters look like a nice belt-mounted choice.
>
> If you are serious about preferring a gun-style shoulder holster, maybe
you
> should troll the rec.guns newsgroup for recommendations.
>
> Alan
>
> >From:  Philippe Lewis SMTP:p.lewis@USA.NET
> >Sent:  Friday, April 02, 1999 12:38 PM
> >Subject:       Re: Holster Case
> >
> >Hello! Does anyone know if they still sell the 200LX holster (looks like
a
> >gun holster, but with a 200LX case) anywhere?
>
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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:01:04 -0800
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Yep, but still too much for a piece of plastic (yeah, I know about the
margins...). Oh, and yes, I saw stockchart. Good thing they're using
WWW/LX!!!

Philippe :)

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<p.lewis@USA.NET>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light


>
> Check out www.galaxymall.com/computer/palmtop! The guy is
> also selling our products (newest dealer) - oh an BTW, also
> he sells the StockChart (and he _does_ have it on his
> Webpage.
>
> His price for flexlite is better...
>
> Best regards,
>
>   Avi M. D&A
>

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:58:17 +0800
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              ar <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Loose screws - T6 not hard to find . . .
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The T-6 screwdriver is not that hard to get. Most electronics  parts supply
shops should have various TORX sizes (based on my experience in Hong Kong).

More specifically, the T-6 is very commonly used for opening up various
brands of mobile phones. Any store dealing in mobile phone supplies or
repairs should be able to sell you one.

Hope this helps.

brgds

Anand Rao.

At 04:08 AM 03-04-99 Saturday , David Kramer wrote:
>
>Yes, all four rubber feet cover screws.  And yes, the lower left one
>seems to be the most comon one to go first.  You will need a relatively
>hard to get but obtainable Torx T-6 to tighten it up again, if the hole
>isn't stripped like mine.
>
>On that note, is there someone on the list who bought the spare parts
>kit that could give/sell me a screw or two?  I ordered the parts kit a
>long time ago and there were no screws in it.  I'm in Boston, if a
>physical handoff is feasible.
>
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On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:15:35 -0800, A Meshar wrote:

> I think that all expertise levels should be mixed. It
> really helps everyone to hear everyone. Surely the less
> experts can get information, and the experts can learn
> where the problems _really_ are. I think all levels have
> something valuable to bring into the discussions.

Indeed.  And speaking from a newcomer's perspective, I want to add that
you've been quite helpful in the three months I've been lurking on this
list.  The expertise on this elist is impressive, including yours.
Speaking from this newcomer's perspective, I just wanted to
say...Thanks!

Regards,

David Ball

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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>I have replied to you personally and on this list. If people don't want
>this discussion on the list, I understand.  Hopefully "Fluff" makes it
>OK.

Hal, I disagree, I don't think a pure-political post belongs on
this even if it is labeled FLUFF.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 2 Apr 1999 20:49:43 EST
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In a message dated 4/2/1999 06:56:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, ian@HPLX.NET
writes:

> Except for the NiMH batteries, which
>  are worth twice as much. <g>

Ian, when they go from $24 to $48 for 4, I'll remember where they got the
idea.

        8)  I agree.  They are great.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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My Palmtree case did not have a belt or other loop.  Merely was intended
to fit into my suit jacket pocket.  Mine is leather.  It is showing its
age.

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12h17m16s ago ...
On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Jeff Malka wrote:


> Actually I believe you can use buddy in pure DOS sessions by using the
> (inlcuded) file BUDDYDOS.

     BuddyDOS offers most of the typing shortcuts, SmartCaps, d-Keys,
etc, and it takes up about 1/3 the memory. I use in in two of my SCWA.
You do have to have a registered version of BUDDY to have it work.

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 14:36:31 +0200
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Hi All,


All this talk of leather and holster cases made me remember a message I
found while browsing Eddie (the 95LX archive). I don't know if this is
still valid (as it was written in 1992), but if it is it might be what
some of you are looking for:

Cheers,

Laust


---Included message...

A Real Case for the HP-95LX
---------------------------

OK, I'm a geek. I admit it. I never wore a slide rule on my belt, but in college
I _did_ wear my calculators on my belt.

When I started using a pocket computer- the Psion Organiser- I used a gray
nylon belt case sold by one of their distributors. I got used to it: it was
always right there when alarms went off or I needed to check a phone number or
something.

Now that the 95 has supplanted the Organiser for me, I needed a belt case for
it. I was using a really ratty old HP-65 hard leather case-- well, truth to
tell, it wasn't that hard any more-- and kept hoping some enterprising third
party would fill the gap.

Nobody did, so I went to a local holster maker to see what he could do. Most
pistol holsters are "molded", just like the old HP hard leather cases: wet
leather is pressed over a form and the result stitched to a backing.
The holster maker used cast aluminum forms for various pistols; we both
agreed that subjecting the 95 to the pressing operation wouldn't be a good idea.

The solution was simple: I had a friend with a milling machine (he's really
handy to have around) machine a chunk of aluminum to the size and shape of the
95. I took this back to the holster maker and he came up with a very rugged
hard leather case that's a perfect fit. Best of all, the price was surprisingly
low: $80 for a case that makes the old HP hard leather cases look kinda shabby,
and designed to my exact specifications.

My case is made from leather about twice as thick as the HP case leather, in a
simple design with a spring steel belt clip and a Velcro secured flap. It's
dyed a dark brown and has pigskin lining.

The holster maker is Brian Digardi, and his business is called Digardi Leather
Co. It's located in San Jose, CA and the phone number is (408) 371-6367. He
still has the aluminum form and is thus in a unique position to make custom
cases for the 95. Since each case is made to order, you decide what goes into
it: RAM card pockets, type of leather used, belt or other type of case design,
so on and such forth. If you're not local to the Bay Area, your best bet is to
call him and arrange to send him a sketch of what you want.

He's been in business here a number of years and the local gun nuts tell me he's
in high demand for custom gun holsters, knife sheaths, and so forth. I'm very
impressed with _my_ case (did I mention the matching belt? That was extra.), and
I think you'd be pleased with anything he did for you as well.

I have no connections with Digardi Leather.

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:08:50 -0300
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Well, i test the card with a HP95lx (a SanDisk 15 M CF) and get some results :

The card was tested with the sdpdrv.sys from SUNDisk version 1.5

Read Speed 316kb/s
Write Speed 207kb/s

I test the C: disk too, with the next results

Read Speed 80 kb/s
Write SPeed 76 kb/s

But, the most important thing here is the power comsumption :

(with the CF and turned-off)  22 mA  (very rare no?) *
in idle (turned on with the CF) 48mA  (is too much)
in read or write : peaks of 220 mA.

* this value is too high becuse there are a line (Card Detect 2) pulled down
(hardwired to ground) in the board (i think that of course, i see the line
grounded in the board, but i not fix this, i do that in the next hours ...,
remember these machines are earlier than the PCMCIA 2.0 (not Socket type II).

well, i can send you the test speed program or the driver commanted (by me of
course),

regards

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 09:41:50 -0500
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I have lost my HP200LX. Its S/N is sg44305026 and it has my name on the r=
ear plate and top card thus:
 colin cohen
I left it on UA977 from Frankfurt to Dulles arriving 3/31. If anyone has =
any contacts at UA that can help me find it, I would be mighty appreciati=
ve.

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:32:13 -0500
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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I agree that `Fluff' doesn't make it ok to post pure-political
stuff any more than it would make it ok for me to post my
(incredibly boring) life history or the American League Schedule for
1975. I wouldn't want to formalize rules for `Fluff' but it seems to me
that there should be _some_ reason that the audience of readers on the
list should be singled out to hear your words.

We are not short of places to talk about politics. For me, however,
this _isn't_ one of them.

Russel Brooks wrote:
>
> >I have replied to you personally and on this list. If people don't want
> >this discussion on the list, I understand.  Hopefully "Fluff" makes it
> >OK.
>
> Hal, I disagree, I don't think a pure-political post belongs on
> this even if it is labeled FLUFF.
>
> cheers... Russ
>
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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:22:05 GMT
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Hi Philippe and list,

> > People, I just saw the "Flexlite Pocket Reading Light" that Theddeus is
> > selling. Well, I have one just like that, and it came for free with a pack
> > of 4 VCR tapes about 5 years back. Well, let me tell you that 24.95$ is a
> > pure ripoff for something like that. The only redeeming value is the fact
> > that it seems to fit (or clip) just right on the side of the palmtop. But
> > otherwise it's just a piece of plastic, worth probably around 5-6$.
>
> Check out www.galaxymall.com/computer/palmtop! The guy is
> also selling our products (newest dealer) - oh an BTW, also
> he sells the StockChart (and he _does_ have it on his
> Webpage.
>
> His price for flexlite is better...

For all who are interested in having a light for the palmtop:
Maybe you've read the discussion 'LED light project' here.
I made the light, it works now fine, and I have sent the
instructions for making it to Mitch.
If he's got time (and enough space on paltmop.net...) he maybe
will place the instructions there. I'll let you know, when
and how it's available.

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:22:09 GMT
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Hi list,

> His price, at $19.95, is somewhat better than $24.95.  However, Mitch sold
> these for $6 to $8 (and I bought one).  What caused the price to go up so
> much?

Here in Germany I found _exactly_ this light at "Conrad Electronic".
They sell it for 3 DM (~=2 US$)!

See http://www.conrad.de

GTX
daniel

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Hi list,

for all who are interested in this project:

My LED light is ready!!! It works fine (except
one problem: it sometimes gets darker for a while -
then it gets bright again... No idea why.)
And the instructions I promised are ready, too!

Please wait until Mitch has set it up on palmtop.net
(if he will - I got no answer from him by now).
If he won't - OK, then I must send it to all of you
who want to have it.
Otherwise, as I said, please wait until it's available
on palmtop.net.

Thanks in advance to Mitch Hamm!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 09:53:52 -0700
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Yes, when you do Ctrl+F10 to create a macro, it says "Define  macro", which
is asking for a name.  If it already exists, then it gives you the option to
edit the macro.

David Sargeant wrote:

> Is there a way to edit a macro directly?

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:03:30 -0700
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Chris;

I got a similar case from Palmtree Products for $20-$40. ()Model #30105)
See them at http://www.harb.net/PalmTreeProductsInc./index.htm

Richard Smith


"R. Christopher Lott" wrote:

> Where's a good place to buy leather cases these days?  For the palmtop
> computer, that is?  My current case was purchased from Educalc years
> ago, and is starting to show some signs of wear.  I would really like
> to get a similar one, but have no idea who the original mfr is.  I
> have seen and tried the ripoff cases, but don't like them.  The one I
> have is simple black leather with zipper around the top 1/2.  It has
> one pocket inside for PCMCIA card(s) and one on the outside for misc
> stuff.  Here's a crude diagram:
>
>                         / <--- Zipper Tab
>                        /
>      /----------------0****************
>      |                       :         * <-- *'s indicate zipper
>      |                       :         *     travel around case
>      |                       :         *
>      |                       :         *
>      |                       :         *
>      |                       :         *
>      |                       : <-------*------- Outside Pocket
>      |                       :         *       (Inside pocket is on
>      \-----------------****************         the opposite side)
>
> --
>
> ************************************************************************
> R. Christopher Lott, P.E.                                  rclott@ro.com
> Huntsville, Alabama
> ************************************************************************
>
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Yep, I have had two of them.  It's pretty good, but doesn't seem to last as
long as you would expect a top-quality leather product to last.  The things
that really stinks is that I bought mine when they were $40!  Anyway, I
like the idea of a belt clip because I hate carrying something in my hands,
it gets in the way, and it's just too easy to set it down and forget about
it.  So, I carry it on my belt and even though it still gets in the way,
<g> it reminds me it's there.  I've been lokking for something better, but
haven't found anything.  It looks nerdy, but no worse than a cell phone.
Besides, I work in the computer industry, being referred to as a nerd or
geek is just part of the job! <g>

Richard Smith


Larry Feldman wrote:

> Hmmm.... You got me looking again. That new one may not be so bad - and
> at $29.95 not unreasonable. Maybe I'll order one.... I just never liked
> belt "clips". Anybody have one?

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:19:18 -0600
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Sears has a nice little #6Torx screwdriver with a swivel head that fits the
hand well and is pretty inexpensive.

ar wrote:

> The T-6 screwdriver is not that hard to get. Most electronics  parts supply
> shops should have various TORX sizes (based on my experience in Hong Kong).
>
> More specifically, the T-6 is very commonly used for opening up various
> brands of mobile phones. Any store dealing in mobile phone supplies or
> repairs should be able to sell you one.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> brgds
>
> Anand Rao.
>
> At 04:08 AM 03-04-99 Saturday , David Kramer wrote:
> >
> >Yes, all four rubber feet cover screws.  And yes, the lower left one
> >seems to be the most comon one to go first.  You will need a relatively
> >hard to get but obtainable Torx T-6 to tighten it up again, if the hole
> >isn't stripped like mine.
> >
> >On that note, is there someone on the list who bought the spare parts
> >kit that could give/sell me a screw or two?  I ordered the parts kit a
> >long time ago and there were no screws in it.  I'm in Boston, if a
> >physical handoff is feasible.
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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:24:42 -0500
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Well sonuva gun I can actually contribute for a change!  I have a case th=
at
sounds a lot like yours Chris (it was Chris, wasn't it?).  It's made by E=
B
and I don't have the website but they advertised in the HP Palmto/Thaddeu=
s
publications.  =

Currently I am using a Case Logic nylon/foam case (9 in x 4.5 in)  made f=
or
pda's which at about $12.95 from Best Buy was a good buy.  I modified it
with all sorts of velcro to hold the HP plus a small leather PC Card case=
. =

It's a simple but clean set up.  You can jam a few more things in there
depending on how you like your population density.  Now someone else
recently commented on carrying more stuff with them and I noticed my Case=

Logic CD holder (6.5 in x 11.5 in)  which is also black nylon foam with a=
 4
ring binder that hold CD sleeves which slide out of the inner pockets.  (=
My
wife says I have that look as I eye yet another case....)
Anyway, to make a long story longer, this would make a killer case and
looks like it'd carry just about everything one would need including a ni=
ce
assortment of plugs, adapters, cables (emergency snickers and/or marlboro=
s)
and still have room for more "essential stuff."  At about $20 it's pretty=

tempting.  =


Tom in Muscat where it's now begining to get hot at 95 degrees F

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Hi Folks,
As a further demonstration of my general ineptitude, I offer $50 American=

dollars (in small, unmarked bills) to anyone who can undo what is probabl=
y
a corrupted phone file.  It's passworded (I know the password) and its
driving me nuts not being able to recall a few addresses here and there. =

As insurance, I just bought a 32 meg CF card to do back ups on.  I tried
Garlic previously but it did not help.  =

Any takers? =


Cheers from Muscat!
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Stan,
I have a Motorola cd920 GSM cell phone and I was wondering if my cable
connection is the same as yours?   My phone has a sort of square shovel
spade connection.  I would love to implement the same setup you have.  I
placed an order for a simple 33.6 card but have no idea when CDW will shi=
p.
 I'd just as soon get the Apex/cable system you used.  I also emailed
Mobile Planet about my phone but haven't heard anything.  Anyone else hav=
e
a similar phone? =


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Lurk mode <on>
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> >How about a 524k Visual Basic version for those with big thumbs?
>
> Ah, a Microsoft version. I thought about it (well, perhaps not before
> that the machine switches itself off automatically before the program
> gets round to do it.

GGGGGGGGGGGGG - I needed that chuckle this morning - thanks!

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Oh, hey, sure enough!  It was so small I missed it!

Phil Drummond wrote:

> Oh, good god man, the nerve of it!  You posted a binary to the list!!!  Look
> 2 lines of UUencode is just pushing the limit!
>
> Ok, now the serious reply.  Bravo!  Real programming, thanks!  I never get
> tired of it when someone actually uses skill and not some bloated
> development environment.
>
> Thanks,
>
> > Please find enclosed a 7 bytes switch-off program for inclusion on Super
> > as
> > well as the source code to be assembled with A86 assembler.
> >
> > begin 644 off.com
> > 'N`!"S17-(```

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The light project page is up now:

http://www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html

Sorry for the delay; I have been away for the last week.
--
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See below:

Ian Butler wrote:

> Personally, I like to use my 4 D-cell Mag-Lite to light the palmtop...

You can also use it to smack the thugs when the try to beat you up.  It's very
effective for that.  Although, if you're going to carry soemthing that big and
heavy, it may as well be a WinCE gadget.  But smacking thugs with it would
probably render it inoperable and void the warranty <g>

> But what bugs me about Thaddeus is the $30 car adapter which is non-filtered
> <snip> overpriced.  Well, a lot overpriced.  Except for the NiMH batteries,
> which are worth twice as much. <g>

I agree, it seems that a lot of things from Thaddeus are a bit overpriced.  I
certainly don't begrudge them a living, but I just wish they could be more
considerate of those on limited gadget budgets!  (For some reason my wife and
children would rather eat and have a home than let me get more toys, dang it.)
<g>

Hal, if you're here, would you care to comment (maybe explain your pricing
strategy)?

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:58:52 +0200
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I have:
Hp 200lx and a Hp 700 lx.
WWW/Lx latest version
Soon a Nokia 7110 (I hope..)

What I want:
Use the 7110 as modem...(hope that this can be done because the 8810
should work with Www/lx)

Phonebookmanagment (transfer enteries between Hp and 7110)

Sms sending capability (sending and transfer incoming sms from phone to
Hp)

Hp 200 Lx/7110 irdamodem should work as the 8810 work with www/lx. Has
to test this before buying thoug..

But now to the main issue of this mail: does anyone know if there
are/will/can be made some software to manage phonenumbers/sms on a
8810/7110 in dos/Hp systemmanager?

I know that the 7110 phone is not yet released, but I have seen software
for Windows for the Nokia 8810 to manage phonebooks. These
phonebookmanagemensprograms was not Nokias and was Windows 9* only no
dosversions..(Ncds 3.0 is also Windows NT/9* only).

I was curious on how the 8810/7110 and the Windowsplatform transfer
phonenumbers and manages sms transfer/sending...

Does anyone know anything about this...can this be done? Does the
8810/7110 "speak" a language that can be programmed/used in a
dosapplication..

My "dream" was that I could have a application on the Hp 200 where I
could "drag and drop" phonenumbers between the Hp phonebook and the
Nokias phonebook (7110 has room for 1000 names and 500 smsmessages).

And also have a program to transfer sms messages from phone to hp for
storing. And have the ability to send sms via ir from the Hp via the
7110/8810..

Am I asking for too much?

Info on the new Nokia 7110 can be found on http:\\www.nokia.com
somewhere..

--
Med vennlig hilsen/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway
mailto:martin@mobilpost.com
Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462
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I can't be of much help, given that I am in the US and we don't have
any GSM capabilities yet. However, I do have a Nokia 616x, and have
done some `drag and drop' phonebook management, and it has caused
me to have a somewhat cautious view which may be of some use to you.

On our phones, connection as a modem is (1) expensive; and (2) slow.
I investigated it, and dropped the idea after I found that it would
cost me several hundred US$ and would have given me 4800 baud
connection. In Narvik, I suspect you will have somewhat better luck on
this score.

For the 616x, there is a product that allows `drag-and-drop'. Of course,
it is a windows product, and wouldn't work on a 200/700, but then
I now realize that I wouldn't want it to, anyway. I find I would
_much rather_ manage my phone by having a simple ASCII list that
I keep in good shape and then upload/download in this form rather
than in some more elaborate way.

For example, on my phone I was disappointed to learn that my lousy
piece of software _couldn't_ merge two lists of names and numbers.
It required that I drag, one-by-one, names from each list into a
combined list. The stupid piece of software did not even allow block
moves! I would have been much better off with a 200 and an ASCII
editor!

I guess what I'm saying is to `be careful what you wish for'.
You may be unlucky and get it!

Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> I have:
> Hp 200lx and a Hp 700 lx.
> WWW/Lx latest version
> Soon a Nokia 7110 (I hope..)
>
> What I want:
> Use the 7110 as modem...(hope that this can be done because the 8810
> should work with Www/lx)
>
> Phonebookmanagment (transfer enteries between Hp and 7110)
>
> Sms sending capability (sending and transfer incoming sms from phone to
> Hp)
>
> Hp 200 Lx/7110 irdamodem should work as the 8810 work with www/lx. Has
> to test this before buying thoug..
>
> But now to the main issue of this mail: does anyone know if there
> are/will/can be made some software to manage phonenumbers/sms on a
> 8810/7110 in dos/Hp systemmanager?
>
> I know that the 7110 phone is not yet released, but I have seen software
> for Windows for the Nokia 8810 to manage phonebooks. These
> phonebookmanagemensprograms was not Nokias and was Windows 9* only no
> dosversions..(Ncds 3.0 is also Windows NT/9* only).
>
> I was curious on how the 8810/7110 and the Windowsplatform transfer
> phonenumbers and manages sms transfer/sending...
>
> Does anyone know anything about this...can this be done? Does the
> 8810/7110 "speak" a language that can be programmed/used in a
> dosapplication..
>
> My "dream" was that I could have a application on the Hp 200 where I
> could "drag and drop" phonenumbers between the Hp phonebook and the
> Nokias phonebook (7110 has room for 1000 names and 500 smsmessages).
>
> And also have a program to transfer sms messages from phone to hp for
> storing. And have the ability to send sms via ir from the Hp via the
> 7110/8810..
>
> Am I asking for too much?
>
> Info on the new Nokia 7110 can be found on http:\\www.nokia.com
> somewhere..
>
> --
> Med vennlig hilsen/Regards
>
> Martin Bergvill

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:59:23 +0200
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On the FTP of Corel is a directory with some WordPerfect tools. There you
can find the 'program editor' of WordPerfect. It is an ASCII Editor which is
capable of reading WP Macrofiles. With this editor you can use many more
commands than in WordPerfect direct. The editor should be free downloadable
I think.

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:28:04 +0200
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              Jacques Belin <listes2@ALTERN.ORG>
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Le Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:08:50 -0300
Alejandro Paz <psys@COTELCO.COM.AR> =e9crivait:

> (with the CF and turned-off)  22 mA  (very rare no?) *
> in idle (turned on with the CF) 48mA  (is too much)

Don't remember the standard HP95 values, but seems also to me a little
high. BTW, had you problems whith the backup battery ?

> in read or write : peaks of 220 mA.

That's the point.  And we know that the HP95 is more power consumpting
that the HPx00lx... Imagine when you will have to restore your backup to
the CF, using the serial port :-(

> * this value is too high becuse there are a line (Card Detect 2) pulled d=
own
> (hardwired to ground) in the board (i think that of course, i see the lin=
e
> grounded in the board, but i not fix this, i do that in the next hours ..=
.,
> remember these machines are earlier than the PCMCIA 2.0.

If I remember, it was even the first product sold with a PCMCIA
adapter...

> well, i can send you the test speed program or the driver commanted (by m=
e of
> course),

Yes, I would be intersted.

Jacques.
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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:34:50 -0800
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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I've noticed that a selective (10-20 at a time) extracting (File/Extract...)
of records to another file will allow you to copy all the good stuff from
your phone file, and leave the wrong stuff there do die. Takes a while, but
it worked for me, losing about 30 records...

Philippe :)

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From: Tom Nemeth <tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 1999 9:24 AM
Subject: Cash Reward to fix my file


Hi Folks,
As a further demonstration of my general ineptitude, I offer $50 American
dollars (in small, unmarked bills) to anyone who can undo what is probably
a corrupted phone file.  It's passworded (I know the password) and its
driving me nuts not being able to recall a few addresses here and there.
As insurance, I just bought a 32 meg CF card to do back ups on.  I tried
Garlic previously but it did not help.
Any takers?

Cheers from Muscat!
tom
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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:35:31 -0800
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Send me the file, and I can try!

Philippe :)

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Sent: Saturday, April 03, 1999 9:24 AM
Subject: Cash Reward to fix my file


Hi Folks,
As a further demonstration of my general ineptitude, I offer $50 American
dollars (in small, unmarked bills) to anyone who can undo what is probably
a corrupted phone file.  It's passworded (I know the password) and its
driving me nuts not being able to recall a few addresses here and there.
As insurance, I just bought a 32 meg CF card to do back ups on.  I tried
Garlic previously but it did not help.
Any takers?

Cheers from Muscat!
tom
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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:36:57 -0800
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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The case I'm using right now is a PDA zippered Targus case. Looks like a
daytimer -- similar to the PalmTree cases (camouflage for your palmtop: no
one will know there's an organizer in there...) Extremely rugged, lifetime
warranty, need I say more? Price is steep (40-80$), so look for sales. Just
leave the zip open at the top for sliding in and out. They also have one
that has a cellphone pocket for those who want everything in one place. I've
got both, and leave them in my two larger targus and north face cases. This
way, I can just slide the palmtop in there and know it won't get scratched
or eat the dust. (www.targus.com)

Philippe :)

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From: Tom Nemeth <tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 1999 9:24 AM
Subject: HP cases


Well sonuva gun I can actually contribute for a change!  I have a case that
sounds a lot like yours Chris (it was Chris, wasn't it?).  It's made by EB
and I don't have the website but they advertised in the HP Palmto/Thaddeus
publications.
Currently I am using a Case Logic nylon/foam case (9 in x 4.5 in)  made for
pda's which at about $12.95 from Best Buy was a good buy.  I modified it
with all sorts of velcro to hold the HP plus a small leather PC Card case.
It's a simple but clean set up.  You can jam a few more things in there
depending on how you like your population density.  Now someone else
recently commented on carrying more stuff with them and I noticed my Case
Logic CD holder (6.5 in x 11.5 in)  which is also black nylon foam with a 4
ring binder that hold CD sleeves which slide out of the inner pockets.  (My
wife says I have that look as I eye yet another case....)
Anyway, to make a long story longer, this would make a killer case and
looks like it'd carry just about everything one would need including a nice
assortment of plugs, adapters, cables (emergency snickers and/or marlboros)
and still have room for more "essential stuff."  At about $20 it's pretty
tempting.

Tom in Muscat where it's now begining to get hot at 95 degrees F

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:45:29 -0800
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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> On the FTP of Corel is a directory with some WordPerfect tools. There
> you can find the 'program editor' of WordPerfect. It is an ASCII
> Editor which is capable of reading WP Macrofiles. With this editor you
> can use many more commands than in WordPerfect direct. The editor
> should be free downloadable I think.

I'm at ftp://ftp.corel.com/pub/WordPerfect/wpdos/5x/ but can't find
anything called "program editor."  Do you know what the file is called?

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              mihlo <mihlo@CLUB-INTERNET.FR>
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The 200 lx : 2mo
The 360 lx : 8 mo + 10 mo flash card + Modem Pcmcia 28800

I pay the same price for the two, which one have i to choose (i dont have
quicken in the 360 lx, i dont have the cd rom and i WANT quicken....and
financial programs: i'm student...)

Help me, i have the 2 at home and i have to keep just one..

Don't tell that the 360 is more expensive, i want the better one, more
usefull...
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Date : samedi 3 avril 1999 22:49
Objet : Re: Keys in WP51


>On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote:
>
>> On the FTP of Corel is a directory with some WordPerfect tools. There
>> you can find the 'program editor' of WordPerfect. It is an ASCII
>> Editor which is capable of reading WP Macrofiles. With this editor you
>> can use many more commands than in WordPerfect direct. The editor
>> should be free downloadable I think.
>
>I'm at ftp://ftp.corel.com/pub/WordPerfect/wpdos/5x/ but can't find
>anything called "program editor."  Do you know what the file is called?
>
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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, mihlo wrote:

> The 200 lx : 2mo
> The 360 lx : 8 mo + 10 mo flash card + Modem Pcmcia 28800
> I pay the same price for the two, which one have i to choose (i dont have
> quicken in the 360 lx, i dont have the cd rom and i WANT quicken....and
> financial programs: i'm student...)
> Help me, i have the 2 at home and i have to keep just one..
> Don't tell that the 360 is more expensive, i want the better one, more
> usefull...


If you're a student and you want the palmtop that's more useful, there's
no contest.  The 200LX.  The 360LX might make a good toy, but for serious
work, you need a 200LX.

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>Sonuvabitchin idiots ..... </snip>


1. Avi never did this much mistyping errors
2. Avi always has a wordwrap, this jerk didn't

I didn't have to look at the header to realize, that this mail wasn't from
Avi.

-goe-

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> "Harriet the Spy"

:-) ...

> side of it.  I've been to lazy to paint over it. :)

Does the paint scratch off?

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> > Check out www.galaxymall.com/computer/palmtop!
>
> Can anyone verify this URL?  It doesn't work for me at
> this end!!

John, don't put the exclamation mark - sorry just this...

  http://www.galaxymall.com/computer/palmtop

I'll check it out too before I send it.

Sorry for the trouble.

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My 8 m\double speed 200lx  locked up big time and I need some help.    I was
executing a pocket quicken connect when the 200lx returned a double check error
(I think).    At that point it locked and I could not get it to respond.
Tried ctrl+alt+del -nothing.     Then I tried the ctrl+on+shift and no to the
intialization question but it locked after several steps.    Then I tried it
again and apparently (because I was starting to panic) I answered yes to the
intialization.    Now the screens are all garbled including the top card.

Any suggestions on how to fix - hope I don't have to return to Thaddeus for
repair.

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My 8 m\double speed 200lx  locked up big time and I need some help.    I was
executing a pocket quicken connect when the 200lx returned a double check error
(I think).    At that point it locked and I could not get it to respond.
Tried ctrl+alt+del -nothing.     Then I tried the ctrl+on+shift and no to the
initialization question but it stopped after several steps.    Then I tried it
again and apparently (because I was starting to panic) I answered yes to the
initialization.    A similar incident happened last summer and now I back up to
SanDisk 40m.    But unlike last year, the screens are all garbled including the
top card.

Any suggestions on how to fix - hope I don't have to return to Thaddeus for
repair.

Joe

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:42:31 -0800
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Steve,

> More like a couple of thugs see you sitting in the dark, typing on a
> tiny computer illuminated by a kids "Harriet The Spy" flashlight and
> decide to beat the daylights out of you just for kicks.. <grin>

You mean beat the "flexlites" out of you? :) I just could
not resist...

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Claud,

> His price, at $19.95, is somewhat better than $24.95.  However, Mitch sold
> these for $6 to $8 (and I bought one).  What caused the price to go up so
> much?

I do not have any idea how he set the price and what it
cost him I assume that he is relating it somehow to his
cost and profit etc. He is an independent agent and not
related to D&A, other than selling our product.

I bought one at the higher price and I love it, even at
that cost!

  Avi M. D&A

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Claud,

> I apologize for getting sucked into this - sorry for suspecting you really
> had a temper <g>.  Actually, I'm serious about the apology.  I really leapt
> before I looked.

:-) --- Temper I have, like anyone else. That I sometimes
let it get the best of me is also true. But that post was
ridiculous and so ugly and malicious... It was easy to
believe. I almost went checking in my own email outbox :-)
... You do not need to apologise to _ME_. I, and you, and
several others (Lynn Cavendish was the last one I know),
were all victimized by a childish person. Sorry for him. If
any apologies are to go anywhere, it is from that person to
us.

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> Yep, but still too much for a piece of plastic (yeah, I know about the
> margins...). Oh, and yes, I saw stockchart. Good thing they're using
> WWW/LX!!!

I won't argue pricing of someone else. I did not fell that
Thaddeus overcharged me, and I think that Palmtop Palace's
price is even better, but to each his own. I am sure we can
always shave another penny here and there, and damn near
remove any profit from any price (and removing any
incentive for that vendor to be in the market for us
palmtoppers, too, in the process :( ...)

And since you have a license for one, you are in good
shape! :) You will also need to obtan GET.ZIP from
ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/WWW/get.zip (you can use HV for
that). This is the product which you can tell URLs and it
goes and gets the list of URLs, and saves them on the
Palmtop. There, unattended Web browsing :) ..

I am very impressed with what Gary Leive did with combining
elements that are available on the palmtop to create a
sophisticated system for stock tracking and analysis.

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:43:24 -0600
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              Smith" at Apr 3, 99 10:22:10 am
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> like the idea of a belt clip because I hate carrying something in my hands,
> it gets in the way, and it's just too easy to set it down and forget about
> it.  So, I carry it on my belt and even though it still gets in the way,

I took my plain case and have sewn a large D Ring into the top.  I use it
with a belt clip that came with my Post slide rule!  Talk about mixing
technologies!  But, I have often yearned for an ordinary belt clip... I'll
look into this.

-Chris

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David Sargeant wrote:
>
> On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, mihlo wrote:
>
> > The 200 lx : 2mo
> > The 360 lx : 8 mo + 10 mo flash card + Modem Pcmcia 28800
> > I pay the same price for the two, which one have i to choose (i dont have
> > quicken in the 360 lx, i dont have the cd rom and i WANT quicken....and
> > financial programs: i'm student...)
> > Help me, i have the 2 at home and i have to keep just one..
> > Don't tell that the 360 is more expensive, i want the better one, more
> > usefull...
>
> If you're a student and you want the palmtop that's more useful, there's
> no contest.  The 200LX.  The 360LX might make a good toy, but for serious
> work, you need a 200LX.
>
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I have a HP win ce machine I pick it up to play but turn to my 200LX FOR
SERIOUS
WORK. Need I say more.

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I figured out the culprit with my SC/SSC problem.  After tediously removing
various TSRs one at a time, I found it.  I had been experimenting with
selectable boot options recently, and had installed LXCIC in my autoexec
file to replace the CIC100 on the D: drive.  I don't know if I had to do
this, but I was experimenting with using LXCIC in the batch file to detect
exactly what card I had plugged into my PCMCIA slot.

Anyway... LXCIC was somehow the culprit.  By experimenting, it seems
that I can't load it either before or after SC starts.

Now.... can any of you experts speculate why there is this interference?

And I'm so happy to have all the SC work areas now available!  Now I'm
off to get the CLIPVUE program...

-Chris


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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:05:55 -0800
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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, David Ness wrote:

> I agree that `Fluff' doesn't make it ok to post pure-political
> stuff any more than it would make it ok for me to post my
> (incredibly boring) life history or the American League Schedule for
> 1975. I wouldn't want to formalize rules for `Fluff' but it seems to me
> that there should be _some_ reason that the audience of readers on the
> list should be singled out to hear your words.
>
> We are not short of places to talk about politics. For me, however,
> this _isn't_ one of them.

On the other hand, who will care when World War III breaks out?

Ian Butler <ian@hplx.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.,
Peace love sunshine Volkswagen

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> effective for that.  Although, if you're going to carry soemthing that big and
> heavy, it may as well be a WinCE gadget.  But smacking thugs with it would
> probably render it inoperable and void the warranty <g>

Is there any difference in functionality before and after
smacking thugs with a WinCE? ;-)

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> >Sonuvabitchin idiots ..... </snip>
>
> 1. Avi never did this much mistyping errors
> 2. Avi always has a wordwrap, this jerk didn't
>
> I didn't have to look at the header to realize, that this mail wasn't from
> Avi.

:-) ... Good man. I also don't use some of these
expressions. I do not use "pound" in writing, I use "lbs.".
I don't say "drive me insane", but instead "make me crazy".
Also, when I write to Andreas, I have no inhibitions about
x-rated words, I spell them out completely. In short, a
lousy and transparent immitation.

Someone told me that since spoofing is a form of imitation,
and imitation is a high form of flattery, I should feel ok
about it. But in this case, the imitation is lousy, and not
flattering at all. :-)

Thanks for the post.

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> I almost bought one of these, but just before I did. I got one free
> from my friends little girl.  She had gotten it free in her McDonalds
> happy meal.  The only difference is it says "Harriet the Spy" on the
> side of it.  I've been to lazy to paint over it. :)

Maybe you want to put an adhesive label over it (easier).
Anyone know a source to get plain blank labels? Black, in this
case, is it?  Or some such color.

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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote:

> I'm at ftp://ftp.corel.com/pub/WordPerfect/wpdos/5x/ but can't find
> anything called "program editor."  Do you know what the file is called?

I don't know if it is available from Corel's FTP site, but you can find
the editor on the same page that has DataPerfect available for download.

http://www.sanbachs.com/compusofl/download.html
(it's called EDITOR.ZIP).


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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:44:13 +0200
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Subject:      Re: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX

mihlo writes:
> The 200 lx : 2mo
> The 360 lx : 8 mo + 10 mo flash card + Modem Pcmcia 28800
>
> I pay the same price for the two, which one have i to choose (i dont have
> quicken in the 360 lx, i dont have the cd rom and i WANT quicken....and
> financial programs: i'm student...)
>
> Help me, i have the 2 at home and i have to keep just one..
>
> Don't tell that the 360 is more expensive, i want the better one, more
> usefull...

First sorry about the bad web address, it should have been
thaddeus not thaddius. Second, about the choice, I would go with
the 200LX. The reason for this is there is a better choice of
software for the 200LX than CE. As a student I don't see any need
to sync with Outlook and in my personal opinion that would be the
only reason to use CE. I would think you would need better word
processing, math tools, spreadsheet, business, etc than what is
offered by CE. Plus I think the OS is kind of iffy--I don't see it
as it becoming the workhorse in the the embedded market that some
people propound it is going to become. It is just too big and
slow. So unless you really need that Outlook sync really bad, go
with the 200LX--you'll get a better tool.

John

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Subject:      Stockchart

Hi

Does anyone know the correct URL for the FOREX in Stockchart? It
changed on me and I haven't time to go look it up. :(
Thanks.

John Musielewicz

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> Anyway... LXCIC was somehow the culprit.  By experimenting, it seems

Odd... I use SC and lxcic and don't have a problem. Are you sure
the swap file is the correct size? I use the sizer worksheet
to calculate it out and have never had a single problem with
it. I am using the latest version from Thaddeus, don't use
EMM, and have 9 sessions I run. I am running it on a 32 meg
DS 200LX.

John

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Subject:      Re: Help - a really locked 200lx
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Do you have a double-speed machine?  If so, the garbling is caused by the
lack of speed driver.  What I would do is load the driver onto the Sandisk
card, then boot from that card (just create a config.sys file that
includes device=spd31.sys or whatever the driver is called nowadays, and
put the card in).  If you don't have a speed-upgraded machine, then it
won't be quite as easy to fix.

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> Any suggestions on how to fix - hope I don't have to return to Thaddeus for
> repair.


You need to get the double speed driver back to the palmtop from either
an a: drive or by datacom or some such to the c: drive to get the screen
clear.

I don't have a double speed so don't know the name of the driver.  Good
luck.

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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Joe Lapp wrote:

> My 8 m\double speed 200lx  locked up big time and I need some help.

I guess I should have re-read the first sentence; obviously you DO have a
double-speed 200LX.  Okay, so you need the driver.

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I'd like some advise.

Which programming language would you experts recommend to a novice for
programming DOS applications for both the HP200LX and desktop?

The app I'm first considering is an outliner working with ASCII data files.
 I really like PC-Outline, but I'm tired of having data files corrupted and
I'm willimng to use something simple that's reliable.

I'm not naive enough to think this will be easy.  Many years ago I learned
Fortran I, II, and IV; wrote a small 500 line program.  So I realize how
complicated programming can be.

Although I have access to Hyperpad, I'd prefer to use whatever you experts
recommend.

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>What I had was a program that looked at the size and contents to see if they
>were identical.  Now, I can't remember if this was a DOS utility or maybe a

Hi Alan

Is this it?

I use DFL (Duplicate file locator)  It does what you want..  Fast CRC find
and also exact match to find where you may have changed a name with
duplicate contents etc.

It is a DOS prog and I have used vers 3.11 as well as now 3.40.  Should be
on download.com or shareware.com.


NB  To use it on the flash card you will need to assign e:=a: as it only
works on HD not floppy.  Other than that it works great on the LX.  :))

Let me know if you want it posted.

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:02:15 -0800
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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote:

> Do you have a double-speed machine?  If so, the garbling is caused by the
> lack of speed driver.  What I would do is load the driver onto the Sandisk
> card, then boot from that card (just create a config.sys file that
> includes device=spd31.sys or whatever the driver is called nowadays, and
> put the card in).  If you don't have a speed-upgraded machine, then it
> won't be quite as easy to fix.

Expanding a little more, you were supplied with a driver disk which contains
an EXE version of the driver.  Chances are, if your system is like mine
without the speed driver (as in, scrambled like the brains of a
smack-addicted goat) it won't be legible enough to do much, but I've found I
can type "a:\spd31" pretty reliably, even blind.  :)

Ian Butler <ian@hplx.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.,
Peace love sunshine Volkswagen

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re: win-ce

> offered by CE. Plus I think the OS is kind of iffy--I don't see it
> as it becoming the workhorse in the the embedded market that some
> people propound it is going to become. It is just too big and

Well, I would have to disagree to some extent.  By version 5.9 or
thereabouts, the OS will probably be mature.  But then, that operating
system will not run on any current win-ce device meaning folks will be
upgrading the entire physical unit.  It has already happened with the
"upgradeable" 300/320's and will probably occur again.

That does not mean that for some folks, win-ce would be a perfect
solution.  Folks need to assess their needs carefully.

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Mina Carson wrote:
>
> No, you know the ones - at each corner of the sitting-side of the LX series.
> One corner of my 200LX has declared independence of its footie AND its
> accompanying little screw. Miraculously, I found the footie, but I think the
> screw is history. Short of making HP honor my extended warranty, is there
> anywhere I can get that little piece of hardware?
>
>
Direct from HP:  Palmtop Maintenance Kit , Product number F1216-60998

This kit includes feet(8), screws (3), infrared cover (2), battery cover
(2),  backup battery tray (2) in case you happen to change this battery
frequenctly, id plate (2) , hingecap sets (2)

Al fro the low price of about $US20 direct from HP

I'm missig their phone # but snail mail:  support material organization,
                                          3382 Venture Drive
                                          Lincoln, CA   95648

you'll have it in 1-3 days

Stan Gall

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> Which programming language would you experts recommend to a novice for
> programming DOS applications for both the HP200LX and desktop?

Forth. You can get HP-Pygmy Forth from the SUPER site.
Forth is really nice because you can develop very fast and its
much easier to learn than other high level languages like pascal
or C, which I was teaching myself until I found forth . Plus the
source for the language is usually availible which
means you can custom tailor the library for the application
without an excessive amount of work--although it helps to know
assembly for the x86. But even if you don't know assembly, you'll
learn it very fast working with it using Forth--Forth kind of
cushions the mnemonic learning curve. All and all its a great fun
language to learn. Get HP-Pygmy if you want to learn more and
check out www.forth.org for more information.

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I found the phone for HP support materials supply--1-800-227-8164  they
give great service

also, the sears torx screw driver set, also available as part of a
larger set "micro-Tech expert (12 pc)" is excellent.

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Mina Carson wrote:
>
> No, you know the ones - at each corner of the sitting-side of the LX series.
> One corner of my 200LX has declared independence of its footie AND its
> accompanying little screw. Miraculously, I found the footie, but I think the
> screw is history. Short of making HP honor my extended warranty, is there
> anywhere I can get that little piece of hardware?
>
>
Direct from HP:  Palmtop Maintenance Kit , Product number F1216-60998

This kit includes feet(8), screws (3), infrared cover (2), battery cover
(2),  backup battery tray (2) in case you happen to change this battery
frequenctly, id plate (2) , hingecap sets (2)

Al fro the low price of about $US20 direct from HP

I'm missig their phone # but snail mail:  support material organization,
                                          3382 Venture Drive
                                          Lincoln, CA   95648

you'll have it in 1-3 days

Stan Gall




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F. Kaufman writes:
> re: win-ce
>
> > offered by CE. Plus I think the OS is kind of iffy--I don't see it
> > as it becoming the workhorse in the the embedded market that some
> > people propound it is going to become. It is just too big and
>
> Well, I would have to disagree to some extent.  By version 5.9 or
> thereabouts, the OS will probably be mature.  But then, that operating
> system will not run on any current win-ce device meaning folks will be
> upgrading the entire physical unit.  It has already happened with the
> "upgradeable" 300/320's and will probably occur again.
>
> That does not mean that for some folks, win-ce would be a perfect
> solution.  Folks need to assess their needs carefully.

Yes, I agree, people do need to be careful but from what I've
read on embedded technology and the handheld market, I am
finding that CE is just not as acceptable as was broadcast
by the M$ propaganda machine even as much as a year ago.
Even the flavor of the M$ CE web page has changed from
stressing the versatility of CE to more of a desktop
solution. I think that no doubt CE will be a future OS
but I just don't think it makes a good handheld OS anymore
than Win 3.1, 95 or NT would. I ran 3.1 on a PC110 and
it couldn't compare to DOS or DOS on my 200LX. It was
hard to work with, slow, hard to see, in general just a
pain in the rear. And this was on a 486!!! I would think 95 or NT
would be worse! I think a mouse based technology has its place
but...I feel they have pretty much reached the limits. Thats
why notebooks stay pretty large. I think the one avantage CE
handhelds do have (besides Outlook) is the hardware but with
CE on top of it it isn't a big one.

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:54:33 -0800
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Daniel,

> Try Volkov Commander (available on SUPER)!
> It's a Norton Commander clone and works great on the palmtop.
> But I don't know about the copy speed..

I tried it three times. It always froze my machine. I d/l
it three different times. The palmtop froze hard enough to
require cold boot.

Is there a secret I missed? :)...

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:22:04 -0600
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>I tried it three times. It always froze my machine. I d/l
>it three different times. The palmtop froze hard enough to
>require cold boot.
>
>Is there a secret I missed? :)...


Volkov doesn't run on a speed upgraded machine, but I have created a patch for
it that is on the Super site.  Just do a search from the main page for Volkov
and it will pull up "Volkov Commander" and "Volkov Commander DS Patch".

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 08:27:58 GMT
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Hi again,

the instructions for building the LED light
for the LX is now available in the MORE &...
section on www.palmtop.net

or directly on the URL
www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html

Thanks to Mitch Hamm!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 04:41:39 -0400
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Hello, all.

i have seen much going on about pda connections to the net via cel
phones..  I am looking for a new cell phone (digital) and was wondering
what people in the states use for this.  specifically,  i am using =
post/lx on an
8mb ds hp200.  I would like to use IrDa if this exists here.  I am in
southern california....

thought that is would be worth investigating before plucking a lot of
money down.  of course, it might be prohibitively expensive.

mucho

dave mar

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 11:41:43 +0200
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Hi WWW/LX users,

trying to use one or two EXMs in parallell to POST, I want to know
the minimum memory necessary to run POST.

Since setup.exe must be run as POST-external for some setups (Add
Mailbox f.ex.), I run POST with lots of memory offline for setup
etc., and currently with only 350KB when going online.

Are there experiences for minimum memory needed by POST for online
processing?

Thanks in advance.

 Hermann

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 11:49:52 +0200
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Hi WWW/LX users,

this may be mainly to European users.

Currently I can't login to my gmx.net mailbox using POST/LX. I'm
getting the error msg:
 'Bad Address - 451 - Need to authenticate via POP3 first'

Using OUTLOOK, I can login, so I think the user-id and password
should be correct.
I was able to send and receive mail using this mailbox early this
year after the gmx login change (without using a special login
script).

Was something changed again? I'll contact the gmx people also.

Thanks in advance.
  Hermann

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Hi all,

on CeBit Mobility Electronics offered a 'Docking-Station for all'
(Notebooks I think).

It uses a PC-Card to connect to the Notebook.

Anybody saw it, heard of it?

Can it be used with the LX?

Hermann

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I'm very surprised to hear that LXCIC is suspected to cause
trouble with SC because I wrote LXCIC just for use with SC!

As you may know, running CIC100 in just one SC session crashes
the palmtop at the next task switch and there is no way to
unload CIC100. That is, you cannot run CIC100 in only one SC
session. However starting CIC100 before SC constantly takes
away 7KB from every work session.

To overcome this limitiation of CIC100, I decided to write
LXCIC as a removable TSR, able to be started before SC for
use in every work session or after SC for just one work session
without disabling SC task switch.

At the beginning I used LXCIC only in one SC session, but now
I load it before SC to be more flexible in my sessions, and
because LXCIC only needs about 800 bytes resident.

The relevant part of my AUTOEXEC.BAT looks like:
(I added the ';' commments for your convenience)

...
rem load TSR's

DSPEED      ;double speed clock driver
LXCIC/L     ;load LXCIC resident
NUMLOCK     ;numlock simulater
STEF8B      ;my system font
LXPRO       ;battery voltage etc.
LIGHTON     ;Led light TSR

rem start SC

CAROUSEL    ;SC

well, I just realized that I only use my own TSR's, that
might explain why I have no problems ;-)

Stefan

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:22:05 GMT
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Hi Mitch (and list - just for info: there are errors
on www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html!)

I have to add something to my last message:

--- begin of forwarded message ---

P.S.: You forgot to set a link to the picture needed1.jpg.

--- end of forwarded message ---

...and the link to 'needed2.jpg'. It's possible that
I've used the same pictures as in my other instructions.
(don't know exactly... sorry!)
If so, you can delete the duplicate and use the picture
of the connector-howto.

And: the ASCII-'pictures' in sections 4 and 10 look terrible.
But that is my mistake: My editor I wrote the text with
probably replaced some spaces by tabs.
I'll send you the corrected 'pictures' in another mail
from my desktop computer (where I made the instruction).
It would be great if you replaced it by the corrected one!

Thanks again,
daniel

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Germany
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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Mack Baggette wrote:

> >I tried it three times. It always froze my machine. I d/l
> >it three different times. The palmtop froze hard enough to
> >require cold boot.
> >
> >Is there a secret I missed? :)...
>
> Volkov doesn't run on a speed upgraded machine, but I have created a patch for
> it that is on the Super site.  Just do a search from the main page for Volkov
> and it will pull up "Volkov Commander" and "Volkov Commander DS Patch".

VC doesn't like the zoom modes either, so make sure you're in 80x25 mode.

Cheers,

Laust

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I just spent a month with a 360LX, and yesterday decided to come
back to my 200LX that my wife had taken to keep her phone numbers.
I traded back with her. The 360 is fine for what she uses it for.

I restored my last backup onto the 200 yesterday morning, and was
absolutely delighted to be back on my old 200... then disaster struck.

My youngest son dumped a half a glass of water right over my 200LX!
(I refuse to beleive this is a sign to go back to CE! <g>)

I set the 200 up on edge in front of a fan for most of the day, and
amazingly it came back on! (although it wiped out everything. I'm going
to have to do another restore.)

My problem is that there are about 9 keys that still won't work. I'm
thinking that there might still be some moisture under there. I just
pryed off the keyboard cover, and set the 200 in front of the fan
again. I'm hoping that the keys will start working again sometime today.

If they don't start working... do any list members have any suggestions?
I would imagine that something like this has bound to have happened to
others here. Did you end up having to open up the case? Any suggestions?

Maybe I just need to be patient and keep it in front of the fan a little
longer?

TIA,
Steve







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Subject:      Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light
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Of course. The black labels you seek are available free. They're included
with each package of 5-1/4" floppy disks you buy - the write protect tabs



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
Maximizing the results of Information Systems

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> mailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of Andy
> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 1999 8:11 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light
>
>
> Date sent:              Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:44:39 -0800
> Send reply to:          HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
>         Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
> From:                   Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
> Subject:                Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light
> To:                     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>
> > I almost bought one of these, but just before I did. I got one free
> > from my friends little girl.  She had gotten it free in her McDonalds
> > happy meal.  The only difference is it says "Harriet the Spy" on the
> > side of it.  I've been to lazy to paint over it. :)
>
> Maybe you want to put an adhesive label over it (easier).
> Anyone know a source to get plain blank labels? Black, in this
> case, is it?  Or some such color.
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You should sacrifice any data and remove all of the batteries - ALL batteries.  Then thoroughly dry and replace batteries and then data.  And others have had similar occurances and it usually does work again if it was clear water???

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I investigated using my cel phone for data purposes and found that
(1) it would cost me several hundred dollars for the modem and the
cables involved; and (2) I could then expect a 4800 baud connection.

Since I normally connect with a cable modem, I knew I wouldn't be able
to tolerate such a slow connection, and I knew that I'd be aggravated
by the high price, so I gave up until some `true' all-digital service
(i.e. one that doesn't do digital->analogue->digital conversion)
comes along...

Dave - wrote:
>
> Hello, all.
>
> i have seen much going on about pda connections to the net via cel
> phones..  I am looking for a new cell phone (digital) and was wondering
> what people in the states use for this.  specifically,  i am using post/lx on an
> 8mb ds hp200.  I would like to use IrDa if this exists here.  I am in
> southern california....
>
> thought that is would be worth investigating before plucking a lot of
> money down.  of course, it might be prohibitively expensive.
>
> mucho
>
> dave mar

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> >I have replied to you personally and on this list. If people don't =
want
> >this discussion on the list, I understand.  Hopefully "Fluff" makes it
> >OK.
>
> Hal, I disagree, I don't think a pure-political post belongs on
> this even if it is labeled FLUFF.
>

And......for my two cents.  I very much appreciate hearing all sorts of
other thoughts.  (That's probably because I live so far out of the
mainstream of life - on Eastern Java Island).  I too find it just
amazing that it's possible to be having a 'conversation' about this
sort of thing on the internet.  It shows how free things are.  It also
shows that the power and need for governments is waining - but that's
another topic.  (Read Megatrends 2000).

Thanks for your thoughts,
Steve Soper

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> Is it just me, or is everybody having trouble downloading from SUPER?  =
The
> problem seems to be that www.thaddeus.com isn't working...
>
I've had some problems with the files that I downloaded.  When I tried
to unzip them (with pkunzip) they said the that the zip file had
errors.  I also tried unzipping them with winzip, and it didn't work.
This was with the driver for downloading pictures from a Kodak dc10,
and filer, and one other Japanese program.  I tried pkzipfix on them
and that didn't work.  I tried renaming them with lzh extension to see
if they might actually be compressed that way, and that didn't help.

Any ideas, or suggestions, for uncompressing these files?  Anybody else
have any problems with some of the J-files on SUPER?

Thanks,
Steve

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 12:08:21 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Seems to me that both of your problems are most likely explained
by a bad connection between you and the net.

Offhand, I'd assume that you were getting arguments from pkzip
because the file was corrupt, probably by transmission. I have a
reasonably stable cable modem connection, so if you want me to test,
mail me the names of the files and I'll download them and see if I
get errors.

The various Zips are all so reliable that I'd really be surprised if
something other than transmission was at fault. If one version of zip
reports trouble, there's rarely any profit in trying other zips.
They're generally _very_ consistent.

Steve Soper wrote:
>
> > Is it just me, or is everybody having trouble downloading from SUPER?  The
> > problem seems to be that www.thaddeus.com isn't working...
> >
> I've had some problems with the files that I downloaded.  When I tried
> to unzip them (with pkunzip) they said the that the zip file had
> errors.  I also tried unzipping them with winzip, and it didn't work.
> This was with the driver for downloading pictures from a Kodak dc10,
> and filer, and one other Japanese program.  I tried pkzipfix on them
> and that didn't work.  I tried renaming them with lzh extension to see
> if they might actually be compressed that way, and that didn't help.
>
> Any ideas, or suggestions, for uncompressing these files?  Anybody else
> have any problems with some of the J-files on SUPER?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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>VC doesn't like the zoom modes either, so make sure you're in 80x25 mode.


Strangely enough I think my patch fixes that problem as well as I don't have a
problem running it in any of the zoom modes.

Cheers,
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Folks

Does anyone have any idea who the programmers are
who worked on the free HP to Schedule+ Tool?
Or the Free sych tool for Lotus Organizer 2.1?  If
we knew who maybe one of them would be interested
in creating a custom addon to Harmony.  After all
who ever did those two tools already know the HP
end of things.

Ron Tatham wrote:
>
> As I had posted previously, those of us who aren't prrogrammers and who
> want to get others to help keep our calendars up-to-date have a different
> view of the problem.  This is my view which prompted me to post a $250
> prize with Mitch at Super for anyone who who do what i am incapable of
> doing.
> this clipped from a note to mitch:
--
===== URLs===========
Harmony Synchronization Tool
http://www.extendedsystems.com/prodinfo/specifications/enterprise.html
Translator SDK -
ftp://ftp.extendsys.com/harmony/developer/Translator.zip
HarmonySync SDK
-ftp://ftp.extendsys.com/harmony/developer/HarmonySync.zip
Developer edition of Harmony
ftp://ftp.extendsys.com/harmony/developer/hmnydev.zip
=====================
Lotus Organzier 2.1
ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/commercial_desktop/zq6t00a.exe
====================

Patrick West <patrickwest@uswest.net>, using OS/2
Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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Curtis,

Did you see the posting on Harmony I made?  The
problem with Outlook is it is a moving target. Do
you work with Outlook97, or Outlook98 (neither
have VBA just VBscript) or Outlook2000?

Harmony is setup to make it easy for folks to make
custom add ons.  Somebody has done that of of
course with IntelliSync, the HP thing for
Schedule+ and the Lotus freebie for Lotus
Organizer 2.1.

If any of those had been setup like Harmony we'd
still be able to use them.

So if anyone can make a custom addon for harmony
to link to the HP-dos-LX then Harmony would take
care of the moving target.

It can link to Lotus Notes, Outlook and a dozen
others.

Curtis Cameron wrote:
>
> Is anyone working on the Outlook/LX converter? I could loan some
> skills to the project. One thing I don't have is experience
> programming with VBA, but I think it's possible to automate tasks
> within Outlook using VBA. Is this correct?
>
> If so, I can envisage a tool which uses VBA to automatically prompt a
> user to export data (calendar and/or contacts), and then if possible
> launch an external program to use one of the GDBIO tools to convert
> data into the palmtop's format.
>
> It seems possible also to go the other direction. Synchronization
> would be much harder. Anyone have VBA skills?
>
> --
> Curtis Cameron
> WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724
>
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Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from
pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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What do you mean by `... know the HP end of things ...'?

There isn't much to `know' is there? Or maybe I should say
`What is it that you don't know?',  I don't see much with respect
to the HP that isn't pretty straightforward...

Patrick West wrote:
>
> Folks
>
> Does anyone have any idea who the programmers are
> who worked on the free HP to Schedule+ Tool?
> Or the Free sych tool for Lotus Organizer 2.1?  If
> we knew who maybe one of them would be interested
> in creating a custom addon to Harmony.  After all
> who ever did those two tools already know the HP
> end of things.
>

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=A0<< Does anybody=A0 know how to get the 200LX show the full screen =
when
using the COLINS=20
newest version of electronic dic.?=A0 >>
=A0
As far as I know, you only can get the half screen.

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:11:36 -0500
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<<Is it just me, or is everybody having trouble downloading from SUPER?
The
problem seems to be that www.thaddeus.com isn't working...>>


I just was able to search from www.PalmtopPaper.com and downloaded.
(www.thaddeus.com links to www.palmtoppaper.com).

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On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote:

> I just was able to search from www.PalmtopPaper.com and downloaded.
> (www.thaddeus.com links to www.palmtoppaper.com).

Yeah, it's working again.  Yesterday it must have been down-- even the
banner ads weren't showing up.

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Ed
Thanks so much for your quick and informative reply.
I found the Simtel site and the sims35e.zip file but after
about 15 minutes of downloading I got a message that "The
operation timed out" and "Internet Explorer cannot download
from the internet site sims35e.zip from oak.oakland.edu"
Perhaps I missed something in the meaning of "... and bounce
to the new site". Can you help?

Is the @base program on the Infobase CD or only the @base article?
Where else could I look for the @base program?

Rian Maartens


> >>I searched the CD Infobase for @base
>
> Searching for Merkle & base shows the article in the Sept/Oct, '96 =
issue.
>
> It's full of references to @base.  The search engine doesn't like "@" I
> guess.
>
> In the meantime, here are a couple of workarounds.
> 1. Simstat35e (711K) from Simtel (www.simtel.com and bounce to the new
> site).

> .ed.PTP
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Hi Claud.

<<His price, at $19.95, is somewhat better than $24.95.  However, Mitch
sold
these for $6 to $8 (and I bought one).  What caused the price to go up
so
much?>>

and Philippe,

<<Well, let me tell you that 24.95$ is a
pure ripoff for something like that.>>

I will give a truthful but perhaps an unpopular explanation. As
consumers (especially sophisticated ones like those of us on this
mailing list), we are all used to buying computer products from very
efficient warehouse companies who have lots of products with lots of
volume and low profit margins.

We have sadly seen the demise of ACE, EduCalc and a number of other
200LX-related businesses. My experience is that the way to stay
profitable with a low volume of sales is to find products of good value
to the customer that can be sold with high margin.

We had a good year last year and we are holding our own this year.  We
have a number of products in which our cost of the product (eg CD
InfoBase, SuperSoftware Carousel, even our rechargeable batteries) is
much less than what we charge. These are, in fact, the same Flexlites
that Mitch sold.  I purchased them through Mitch (saving him the hassle
of selling them individually).

It costs us a lot to create and mail out 50K catalogs, to process
orders, do support, take returns etc.

From the consumers point of view we feel there are a number of benefits
dealing with us to offset that we don't try to be the lowest price.  If
people buy from us, they know they will get what they order, it will be
worth the cost (eg the product has good value), and we will take returns
without hassling or a restocking fee.  Further, we are motivated to
continually find more products for the 200LX as long as we can make a
fair profit.



This business in paying my salary and the salary of a number of others
in our small town. No one is getting rich -- not that that would be a
bad thing, but, we are doing OK.

Hope that explains things.

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:57:52 -0500
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Ian,

Please see my  explanation on pricing on another email in this thread.

<<But what bugs me about Thaddeus is the $30 car adapter which is
non-filtered
and frickin' USED.  Now, this adapter is manufactured from quality
bargain
bins, I'm sure, because you need a grand total of three parts to make
the
same adapter yourself:

1. A cigarette lighter plug.
2. A zip cord.
3. A barrel power connector.

You see, that's $10 per part, and I know for a fact that the second
ingredient in this little concoction costs $5 for 20-30 feet of it.  So
where do they come up with $30?  There's only one answer: a profit
margin of
at least 300%.>>

I don't know the source of them as we bought them used and we are out of
them.

<<Don't get me wrong: Thaddeus is a great company.  They're just a bit
overpriced.  Well, a lot overpriced.  Except for the NiMH batteries,
which
are worth twice as much. <g>>>

Maybe we should have charged twice as much<g>.  Actually, the margin on
the batteries is quite high.  As I said in the other email, we try to
give value.  Low volume means we have to charge high margin.  It simply
is not worth is for us to inventory, market, and service products where
we make less than $15 gross profit. (And hardly worth it for $15
profit).  So in the case of batteries and adapters, would customers be
better off if we didn't offer them, because of a big margin?

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:16:23 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Hal, if you're here, would you care to comment (maybe explain your
pricing
strategy)?

Richard Smith>>


Richard, I did reply on this thread.  Hope your gadget budget
increases<g>.

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:20:25 -0500
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<<My 8 m\double speed 200lx  locked up big time and I need some help.
I was
executing a pocket quicken connect when the 200lx returned a double
check error
(I think).    At that point it locked and I could not get it to respond.
Tried ctrl+alt+del -nothing.     Then I tried the ctrl+on+shift and no
to the
initialization question but it stopped after several steps.    Then I
tried it
again and apparently (because I was starting to panic) I answered yes to
the
initialization.    A similar incident happened last summer and now I
back up to
SanDisk 40m.    But unlike last year, the screens are all garbled
including the
top card.>>

Joe, I have sent you privately a CONFIG.SYS and driver files which
should go on C.

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:33:13 -0500
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Subject:      Re: HP200LX SSC-COPYING BETWEEN PALMTOPS & PE E-MAILS
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Rian,

<<I would like to copy between the various 'Palmtops' of Super
Software Carousel on the HP200Lx. I would also like to copy
text from newsgroup e-mail to standard e-mail, but it appears
that Pal Edit only copies and pastes in the same letter.
Can anyone help?>>

Clipvue, mentioned by others in this thread, is "built in" Super
Software Carousel. Press HELP
icon in either Ctrl 2 or Ctrl 3.  It is point 6 under "Hidden Builtin
Goodies".

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 19:43:51 GMT
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              Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
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Dave,

To the best of my knowledge there is currently no IRDA phone that will
work with the 200LX in the US. I use a Sagem 755 1900MHz PCS/GSM phone
with builtin fax/modem that accepts standard AT commands through the
serial port. I get a 9600 baud connection that has proven to be very
reliable. I know a few other people on the list also have this phone
now. It is available from Dave Shier http:\\www.shier.com. Dave Shier
is in So. Cal. and uses Pac Bell as his provider IIRC.

This message will be sent through the Sagem phone.

GaryS

> i have seen much going on about pda connections to the net via cel
> phones..  I am looking for a new cell phone (digital) and was wondering
> what people in the states use for this.  specifically,  i am using
> post/lx on an
> 8mb ds hp200.  I would like to use IrDa if this exists here.  I am in
> southern california....

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 15:52:10 -0400
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Gary,

You meant: http://www.shier.com/
The URL you posted had backslants not forward slants...

Gary Spiers wrote:
>
> <snip of message with erroneous url>
>

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:55:45 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<And I'm so happy to have all the SC work areas now available!  Now I'm
off to get the CLIPVUE program...>>

Chris, Clipvue is in SSC - Alt Memo.  Check SSC Help, Hidden Goodies, 6.

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 15:38:28 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: COLINS
In-Reply-To:  <B0AB4DD57CD5D1118A230060975A10051D1B17@mailhost.thaddeus.com>
              from "Hal Goldstein" at Apr 4, 99 01:06:45 pm
Content-Type: text

>> Does anybody  know how to get the 200LX show the full screen when
>> using the COLINS newest version of electronic dict?
>
> As far as I know, you only can get the half screen.

Hal:

Could I bother you and/or your able associates to look into this
a little further?  There was a post on the list a few weeks back
from a user with the Collins dictionary about 1 version back from
the one I have from you, and he had certain start-up switches that
would run the program in full screen.

So, given that it used to have this capability, perhaps it still
does, and we just don't know the switch/keystroke?

Just a thought...

-Chris

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 15:43:00 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: SC and LXCIC
In-Reply-To:  <m10TjhX-0003VfC@fwd05.btx.dtag.de> from "Stefan Peichl" at Apr
              4, 99 12:00:16 pm
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> I'm very surprised to hear that LXCIC is suspected to cause
> trouble with SC because I wrote LXCIC just for use with SC!

Stefan:

I still wonder about my conclusion - maybe it isn't actually
LXCIC, but rather a combination of LXCIC with some other TSR
I run.  In the intereste of intellectual curiosity, I'll work
some more with it, and see if I can narrow it down to a single
combination of LXCIC and tsr-X...

-Chris


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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 15:00:06 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX

>
> My problem is that there are about 9 keys that still won't work. I'm
> thinking that there might still be some moisture under there. I just
> pryed off the keyboard cover, and set the 200 in front of the fan
> again. I'm hoping that the keys will start working again sometime today.
>
> If they don't start working... do any list members have any suggestions?
> I would imagine that something like this has bound to have happened to
> others here. Did you end up having to open up the case? Any suggestions?
>
> Maybe I just need to be patient and keep it in front of the fan a little
> longer?

Remove the batteries and pull it apart then check for moisture.
If there is none clean the keyboard contacts with a qtip and
denatured alcohol. If you have access to compressed air it would
be a good idea to blow it under and around the none working keys
to get out any remaining moisture. Put it together and it should
work.

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:47:05 +0100
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              Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT>
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Subject:      NKIT/Turbo  C Help
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I'm trying to learn to program in C for my palmtop and an anoying
error keeps happening when I try to compile a source file which
includes "math.h". Turbo C returns the error :

"Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_main' in module C0S".

It happens, for instance, when I try to compile "float.c" of NKIT or
"matherr.c" of the Turbo C distribution.

Can anyone help me? I must have made some error in the
instalation of my copy of Turbo C 2.0 or something like that.

TIA

Regards

Antonio
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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:02:09 GMT
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              Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
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Ah, too much chocolate today ;-)

> You meant: http://www.shier.com/
> The URL you posted had backslants not forward slants...

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 19:00:35 -0400
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Subject:      post/lx and PE
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hello, all.  a few questions for the hp gurus....


first, i use wwwwlx/post/lx and pe as my editor.  for ths list i know
that it is sinful and punishable to use overly long quotes.  for work,
though, it is necessary.  but, the software always asks me if i want to
do this.  is there any toggle or default?

second, when i installed the software originally, when editing the
message of an email, it would jump right into pe.  now i get the
welcoem to d&A screen witht the push any key to continue.....never had
that before.  I know it isa great piece that they provide, but the
screen is prtty annoying.  can we toggle this?

last, when replying to emails, pe always encounters tabs and asks me
what i want to do...is there a default that can be set?

i know these are fine points, but with 100% hp200 email, every
keystroke counts.....and every one is less time strapped to a
desktop....


thanks in advance...

dave
mar

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:05:20 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> >> Does anybody  know how to get the 200LX show the full screen when
> >> using the COLINS newest version of electronic dict?
> >
> > As far as I know, you only can get the half screen.
>
> So, given that it used to have this capability, perhaps it still
> does, and we just don't know the switch/keystroke?
>

I seem to have version 1.1 for Dos and it appears to run in a full
window but I'm not sure what you see.  Here is its syntax screen
accessed by:

E:\COLLINS>collins /?
Collins Electronic Series 100          (c) 1992, HarperCollins
Publishers Ltd

Usage: COLLINS.EXE <-r> <-m> <-help language> <-hotkey number>, where

Meaning of flags:
  -r : resident program
  -m : monochrome mode

Help language:
  Default english help file
  -f : French help
  -d : German help
  -i : Italian help
  -e : Spanish help

 Hotkey number                 HotKey-combination
     0                            ALT  +  SPACE (default)
     1                            CTRL +  V
     2                            ALT  +  V
     3                            ALT  +  CTRL  +  V
     4                            ALT  +  CTRL  +  SPACE

..... end syntax ........

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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:15:37 -0500
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I completely tore the unit and keyboard apart and made sure everything was
dry and clean... but to no avail. When I put the unit back together again,
it worked exactly the same way it did before...everything works except 9
keys. This is a HUGE bummer!! Until I can either replace or fix the 200LX
I'm going to be forced back to using CE on the 360LX. Damn!!  : (


>You should sacrifice any data and remove all of the batteries - ALL
batteries.  Then thoroughly dry and replace batteries and then data.  And
others have had similar occurances and it usually does work again if it was
clear water???
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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:45:06 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX

Try diagnostics (esc+on) and see if the keyboard works. It still
sounds like crud in the keyboard or the keyboard connector though.
You might try getting
some electrical solvent from an electronic parts store with a can
of compressed air. Remove the keyboard and spray it really good--
especially under the keys. Then use the compressed air to blow the
solvent out--it'll disolve any crud and take it with as you blow
it out. If you have access to another 200LX you could swap in
another keyboard to see if it works. You also miight try about 5 or 10 hard resets. This might fix it if you have a stuck node in
the controller. Which keys aren't working?

Steve D. writes:
> I completely tore the unit and keyboard apart and made sure everything was
> dry and clean... but to no avail. When I put the unit back together again,
> it worked exactly the same way it did before...everything works except 9
> keys. This is a HUGE bummer!! Until I can either replace or fix the 200LX
> I'm going to be forced back to using CE on the 360LX. Damn!!  : (
>
>
> >You should sacrifice any data and remove all of the batteries - ALL
> batteries.  Then thoroughly dry and replace batteries and then data.  And
> others have had similar occurances and it usually does work again if it was
> clear water???
> >
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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:52:32 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      1999 CD Infobase

I have the 1997 Infobase from Thaddeus and have been considering
the 99. The only problem is I'd like to be able to read it in
DOS. The 97 could only be read in Winblows. Does anyone know if
the 99 can be read in DOS?

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Date:         Thu, 7 Feb 1980 22:03:24 -0600
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Subject:      Looking For Battery Powered Ext. Modem for 95LX
MIME-Version: 1.0

Hi All

I am a newbie to the list.  I have been using my HP95 since '93.
I have not outgrown it.  It still does everything that I need.

I am looking for a modem which will fit in the cradle next to the
computer.  If not I wll use one of the older worlport modems
If I can find one.  Pref 9600 at least.

Thanks

Mark Weiss


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Date:         Thu, 7 Feb 1980 22:03:35 -0600
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Subject:      Re: PalmTree: Palmtop case
Comments: cc: rclott@RO.COM
MIME-Version: 1.0

I have been usding a rip-off belt clip case for many years now.  Very well
built cases.

Check them out at:

www.ripoffs.com

Mark Weiss

I don't work for them...just giving advice from my own humble existance.




On 1999-04-03 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
   >> like the idea of a belt clip because I hate carrying something in
   >>my hands,  it gets in the way, and it's just too easy to set it
   >>down and forget about  it.  So, I carry it on my belt and even
   >though it still gets in the way,
   >I took my plain case and have sewn a large D Ring into the top.  I
   >use it with a belt clip that came with my Post slide rule!  Talk
   >about mixing technologies!  But, I have often yearned for an
   >ordinary belt clip... I'll look into this.
   >-Chris
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Date:         Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:41:49 -0700
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Subject:      Re: post/lx and PE
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Dave Mar:

> first, i use wwwwlx/post/lx and pe as my editor.  for ths list i know
> that it is sinful and punishable to use overly long quotes.  for work,
> though, it is necessary.  but, the software always asks me if i want to
> do this.  is there any toggle or default?

Which software asks? What does the question look like,
please?

BTW, do you have in POST.CFG this line:

NoQuote=0

Or

NoQuote=1

The former quotes, the latter does not.

> second, when i installed the software originally, when editing the
> message of an email, it would jump right into pe.  now i get the
> welcoem to d&A screen witht the push any key to continue.....never had
> that before.  I know it isa great piece that they provide, but the
> screen is prtty annoying.  can we toggle this?

You press CTRL-E while in Post/LX. Then go to the global
settings and make sure the PE entry is this:

Editor=pe $f $h

and

TempMsgFile=post.tmp

This will pickup the original message and put it in
post.tmp. That file will be opened in $f. $h is for the
original message headers... It'll be a second file PE
opens. Move among open files in PE by using F7=Next.


> last, when replying to emails, pe always encounters tabs and asks me
> what i want to do...is there a default that can be set?

Do you also have in POST.CFG

Clog=0   or Clog=1   The latter clogs your process with
lots of questions, confirmations, bla, bla...

> i know these are fine points, but with 100% hp200 email, every
> keystroke counts.....and every one is less time strapped to a
> desktop....

If you can save 1 minute on as many emails as I write per
day, you get back a nice chunk of your life back - so I
empathize with what you are trying to achieve...:)

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 02:50:08 -0500
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A thru H on the white keys don't work, and 7 thru / on the black keys don't
work. There also seems to be some kind of short that drains my batterys
within about an hour even when the unit is turned off. I also just
discovered that I must have not put something back together correctly,
because now the AC jack apparently isn't working either.

I'll tear it apart again tomorrow and try to get the AC jack working. Then
I'll try the diagnostics and the hard resets.

BTW, the AC jack has a small flat silver piece of metal coming out the back
at an angle toward the back of the unit. It looks like it is a contact of
some sort, but I can't see what it's supposed to be contacting. Any thoughts
about that?

Thank you VERY much for all your suggestions John. I appreciate the help!

Steve

>another keyboard to see if it works. You also miight try about 5 or 10 hard
resets. This might fix it if you have a stuck node in
>the controller. Which keys aren't working?


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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:12:05 +0800
Reply-To:     J H Chin <jhchin@nihonsekkei.com.sg>
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From:         J H Chin <jhchin@NIHONSEKKEI.COM.SG>
Subject:      Email with HP200lx in Shanghai China
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Hi List,

Can you share your experience if you have success in send/retrieve email =
with HP200lx in Shanghai?

TIA
J H Chin

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 01:45:56 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 19:00:35 -0400, Dave - <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> =
wrote:


All of things that you listed can be changed by editing  your pe.cfg


Regards,

Qman...

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 05:31:52 -0400
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>> Does anyone know if   the 1999 CD-InfoBase  can be read in DOS?

The 1999 CD InfoBase is still a Windows - oriented product. =


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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 05:17:25 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX

Steve D. writes:
> A thru H on the white keys don't work, and 7 thru / on the black keys don't
> work.

When a key is pressed it just shorts a contact so if there are
contaminates in there the key won't make contact. These keys are
probably where all the contaminates settled on the keyboard.

> There also seems to be some kind of short that drains my batterys

Ah a path to ground--not good. Or a surge of current from all the
water may have overloaded the batteries. You may need to dischargw
them completely then recharge them for them to work right again
Or if alkyline just replace them.

> within about an hour even when the unit is turned off. I also just
> discovered that I must have not put something back together correctly,
> because now the AC jack apparently isn't working either.
>

When you take out the keyboard check the traces very closely
to make sure none have broken and also be as careful as possible
not to bend the board. Sounds like there may be some gunk on the
mainboard too. When you have that out examine the board very
closely under a strong light for corrosion from the water. Look
for white stuff on the board and contacts. You can use the same
solvent to clean the mainboard as the keyboard. Just make sure you
get a non-lubricating colvent with a high non-conductence along the lines of 10 to 20 kilovolts that
leaves no residue. (lubricating is for tuners and relays and
such). Work fast the stuff
will evaporate quickly. Also do it over a sink because the stuff
can stain. There's a couple of wires by the jack--you
may have pulled one off or compressed them with the case
The short could be caused by crimping those wires or gunk. Or
something (like a register or transistor) could be shorted from
the water and could very well fix itself if you leave the unit
with no power at all, including pulling all battery, for a few
hours

> I'll tear it apart again tomorrow and try to get the AC jack working. Then
> I'll try the diagnostics and the hard resets.

Luck to you.:)

>
> BTW, the AC jack has a small flat silver piece of metal coming out the back
> at an angle toward the back of the unit. It looks like it is a contact of
> some sort, but I can't see what it's supposed to be contacting. Any thoughts
> about that?

Umm I only remember the two on the bottom. There might be a third
but I don't think it does anything.

>
> Thank you VERY much for all your suggestions John. I appreciate the help!

Sure. I hope she ends up working. The nice thing about modern
circuitry is they are very resistant to things like this plus
these are so low current so even if the water did cause problems
(like short something temporarily) the chances are good she'll
recover and be as good as new. Just make sure everything is clean
and dry before you put her together, no wires are pulled off or
crimped and don't force anything back together--it should all
snap into place with a minimum of pressure. I wouldn't worry about
it too much--it was just water--good thing it wasn't something
sticky like pop, _that_ stuff is really nasty to get out:-)

>
> Steve
>
> >another keyboard to see if it works. You also miight try about 5 or 10 hard
> resets. This might fix it if you have a stuck node in
> >the controller. Which keys aren't working?
>
>
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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 05:45:42 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Micro Solution CD-ROMs

I was reading posts in comp.sys.handhelds and a guy posted
saying he had gotten a Micro Solutions backpack CD ROM to
work on the 200LX along with a parallel port pcmcia card.
It wasn't the transdigital card sold by Thaddeus but it
was an EPP card. Has anyone tried this with the Transdigital
card? I thought a backpack with a soundcard would be nice
to listen to music while using the 200LX. Maybe Thaddeus would
create a DOS version of their CD (hint, hint<g>) to use with
the 200LX.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:58:38 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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From:         Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Re: NKIT/Turbo  C Help
Comments: To: Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT>
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> I'm trying to learn to program in C for my palmtop and an anoying
> error keeps happening when I try to compile a source file which
> includes "math.h". Turbo C returns the error :
>
> "Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_main' in module C0S".
>
> It happens, for instance, when I try to compile "float.c" of NKIT or
> "matherr.c" of the Turbo C distribution.
>
> Can anyone help me? I must have made some error in the
> instalation of my copy of Turbo C 2.0 or something like that.

Make sure you have Turbo C & NKIT directory in your path and copy the
LXAPI.H to \TC\INCLUDE. Then edit TCCMAKE.BAT & TCCMAKEF.BAT so the
paths are correct. TCCMAKEF.BAT you use for code with floating point
calculations and TCCMAKE.BAT for compiling other code.

Can't say that this is the only or correct way to get it to work- but it
works fine for me.

Regards,


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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:01:30 +0800
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> I'm trying to learn to program in C for my palmtop and an anoying
> error keeps happening when I try to compile a source file which
> includes "math.h". Turbo C returns the error :
>
> "Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_main' in module C0S".
>
> It happens, for instance, when I try to compile "float.c" of NKIT or
> "matherr.c" of the Turbo C distribution.
>
> Can anyone help me? I must have made some error in the
> instalation of my copy of Turbo C 2.0 or something like that.

Make sure you have Turbo C & NKIT directory in your path and copy the
LXAPI.H to \TC\INCLUDE. Then edit TCCMAKE.BAT & TCCMAKEF.BAT so the
paths are correct. TCCMAKEF.BAT you use for code with floating point
calculations and TCCMAKE.BAT for compiling other code.

Make also sure that you installed TC with small memory model.

Can't say that this is the only or correct way to get it to work- but it
works fine for me.

Regards,


Jorgen

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:11:22 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: 1999 CD InfoBase

Ed Keefe writes:
> >> Does anyone know if   the 1999 CD-InfoBase  can be read in DOS?
>
> The 1999 CD InfoBase is still a Windows - oriented product.
>
> ..ed.PTP

Thanks Ed. Do you know why there is no dos version that would
run on the 200LX? It would be kind of cool to be able to read
about it on it!!!

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:04:23 +0100
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              garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH
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A while ago, I was participating in this list, but stopped because of
the flame wars and because members of the list started posting support
questions to the address I use here instead of the D&A support address,
which is equipped for support.

During the last few weeks, I was lurking here again. I noticed that
there are less flame wars and I also noticed that I frequently pressed
"reply" because I was able to contribute - but never actualy sent a
message.

Now I decided to try again. But I want to emphasize:

This is my PRIVATE email address and I am participating as a private
being and not as a D&A representative. I will answer support questions
on the list if I have time and feel like doing it, however, I will NOT
answer any support questions sent to my email address. Please use
support@dasoft.com for that. Thanks!

The other thing that really annoys me on that list is the attitude of
"commercial developers only want profit and try to steal our money".
Frankly, I don't think that any of the existing companies that support
the 200LX would still exist if it were for profit. Companies like
Thaddeus, SS&S, or D&A are driven by enthusiasm for a great platform.
So I will not participate in any discussions regarding prices. At best,
they will chase me away from that list again.

So please let me contribute!

Andreas

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> first, i use wwwwlx/post/lx and pe as my editor.  for ths list i know
> that it is sinful and punishable to use overly long quotes.  for work,
> though, it is necessary.  but, the software always asks me if i want to
> do this.  is there any toggle or default?

This cannot be turned off. However, you might want to consider if it
really is necessary to quote everything, even in company email.

> second, when i installed the software originally, when editing the
> message of an email, it would jump right into pe.  now i get the
> welcoem to d&A screen witht the push any key to continue.....

Put

NoBanner=1

into the File section of PE.CFG.

> last, when replying to emails, pe always encounters tabs and asks me
> what i want to do...is there a default that can be set?

Put

LeaveTabs=1

into the Display section of PE.CFG.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:50:31 -0400
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Each has their own idea of the perfect case. I have tried several cases. At
present I am using a mini portfolio case that I picked up at a computer show
for $7.00. It would figure that the latest show has them for $5.00
The case is 13x8.5x2 inches. It has a front flap and extra pockets to hide
things. It does not look like a computer case but allows me to carry all the
junk I need.

Stephen Souza
System Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
*mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philippe Lewis SMTP:p.lewis@USA.NET
> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 1999 15:37
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: HP cases
>
> The case I'm using right now is a PDA zippered Targus case. Looks like a
> daytimer -- similar to the PalmTree cases (camouflage for your palmtop: no
> one will know there's an organizer in there...) Extremely rugged, lifetime
> warranty, need I say more? Price is steep (40-80$), so look for sales.
> Just
> leave the zip open at the top for sliding in and out. They also have one
> that has a cellphone pocket for those who want everything in one place.
> I've
> got both, and leave them in my two larger targus and north face cases.
> This
> way, I can just slide the palmtop in there and know it won't get scratched
> or eat the dust. (www.targus.com)
>
>

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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Quoting John Musielewicz (a123456@bitstream.net):
> I was reading posts in comp.sys.handhelds and a guy posted
> saying he had gotten a Micro Solutions backpack CD ROM to
> work on the 200LX along with a parallel port pcmcia card.

I got an email from this guy announcing his success. I will attach it here for
everyone to see. I have been saving it thinking that it might make a good
addition to palmtop.net if the appeal is large enough.

For those that have sent SUPER additions recently, I have them saved up waiting
for some spare time to add them in. Thanks in advance!
--
Mitch
SUPER Team

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I successfully hooked up a Micro Solutions Backpack Bantam parallel port 24X
CD-ROM drive (Model No. 181100) to the HP200LX using Quatech's SPP-100 card
and Hiroyuki Sekiya's freeware SPP100.EXE enabler (thanks to Thaddeus and
Mitch Hamm for making this available).  Quatech's connecting cable supplanted
the one supplied with the drive.  Although I set the enabler to EPP mode and
it worked, it is unclear to me whether EPP is fully functional.  Regardless,
the installation is flawless.

Micro Solutions, in keeping with the cross-platform philosophy of its
products, supplies drivers for DOS 3.1 or higher (plus a copy of MSCDEX.EXE),
Windows 3.11, and Windows 95/98.  They include a utility program and batch
file for loading the necessary drivers after system bootup, so there's little
need to fuss with AUTOEXEC.BAT AND CONFIG.SYS files.  Besides being able to
run System Manager, I still had enough free RAM left to run large applications
in DOS outside of SysMgr.  (This was without any EMS emulation; overall system
performance may increase by loading the drivers high.)

By the way, I was unable to do this same trick with the Trans Digital card.
For some reason, the Micro Solutions driver would not load with Trans
Digital's supplied enabler installed.

As a test, I installed the program files for the Collins English Dictionary
and Thesaurus on the palmtop, leaving the data files on the drive, and
immediately set about looking up some of those hard words.  What I had feared
the most about this setup was a slow response from the CD-ROM drive, however,
the Backpack was very perky, and for the next several minutes I smiled like
The Joker.  I also installed a tiny command line CD audio controller and
played a few Beach Boys songs.  This time, I laughed like a hyena.  What I am
evaluating now are several more shareware and freeware CD audio player
utilities for DOS, however, it's tough finding a full-featured one that
doesn't require EGA or VGA.  Leaving aside the small but interesting stuff, by
cooking my own CD-ROMs, I can now carry vast databases and archives of
information in a compact package weighing less than three pounds!  (Micro
Solutions provides one of the smallest and lightest AC adapters I have yet
seen. I am going to be looking for their optional carrying case next time I go
shopping, and if it's as good as the neoprene "ergo gear" case that I recently
found for the LX, I'll buy it.)  I can also swap programs in the palmtop
without practical limitation.

Although I do not foresee the Palm Pilot or Windows CE platforms matching the
versatility of the palmtop in the handheld market, the shadows from a
different direction are beginning to lengthen -- witness Sony's new mini-
notebook, which has the first truly touch-typeable keyboard in its class.
Still, I believe that this CD-ROM capability, if exploited, will lengthen and
invigorate the life of the palmtop platform for several more years.  I never
imagined that I could still find new ways to enhance this little computer's
power and usefulness.  I'd let you upgrade it, but I'm afraid to let it out of
my hands just yet.

-roger-

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:33:15 -0400
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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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> From:    Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>

> On the FTP of Corel is a directory with some WordPerfect tools. There you
> can find the 'program editor' of WordPerfect. It is an ASCII Editor which is
> capable of reading WP Macrofiles. With this editor you can use many more
> commands than in WordPerfect direct. The editor should be free downloadable
> I think.

> -goe-

If this is the combined Program Editor/Macro Editor that
was part of the WordPerfect Office product, it is well
worth it.  I use the editor almost every day.  The keys
are mostly the same as WordPerfect 5.1 and you can edit
large files, binary files, and macros for WordPerfect
products and up to nine files at a time.  I guess I'll
have to go browse Corel and see if it has been updated.

Steve

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:35:49 -0500
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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I am having this problem also.

Jon
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sargeant mailto:david@HPLX.NET
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 4:01 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Downloading from SUPER
>
>
> Is it just me, or is everybody having trouble downloading
> from SUPER?  The
> problem seems to be that www.thaddeus.com isn't working...
>
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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:31:26 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Micro Solution CD-ROMs
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<< a Micro Solutions backpack CD ROM to
work on the 200LX along with a parallel port pcmcia card.
It wasn't the transdigital card sold by Thaddeus but it
was an EPP card. Has anyone tried this with the Transdigital
card? I thought a backpack with a soundcard would be nice
to listen to music while using the 200LX. Maybe Thaddeus would
create a DOS version of their CD (hint, hint<g>) to use with
the 200LX.>>

We contacted Trans Digital after the post and the author of the post and
Trans Digital engineer are talking. Haven't heard of any results.

The other common request for our CD InfoBase is an HTML version.
Unfortunately, given the amount of work involved, it isn't a good
business proposition.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:38:58 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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From:         Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 1999 CD InfoBase
Comments: cc: "Hal Goldstein (Binaries)" <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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>> Do you know why there is no dos version that would run on the 200LX?

Many things on the CD-Infobase are accessible with DOS. E.g. all the
share/free ware files, PC In Your Pocket, the Guttenburg collection. The
items that rely on the HyperReader software can be exported as text files=

which can then be moved to the LX. =


Why not all-dos?

Extensive searching and testing proved that there was no DOS software tha=
t
rivaled the capabilities of HyperReader. That was true six years ago and =
is
even more true today.  If there were such a hypothetical, hypertext, DOS
program, the conversion process would be time consuming and cost
prohibitive: best guesstimate-8 months. =


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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:36:56 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Could I bother you and/or your able associates to look into this
a little further?  There was a post on the list a few weeks back
from a user with the Collins dictionary about 1 version back from
the one I have from you, and he had certain start-up switches that
would run the program in full screen.>>

Unfortunately, there is not much more we can do to look into it as
Collins no longer supports it. (It took many months of negotiating to
get permission to reprint the manual and sell it again).  My hope is
that someone on this list will discover something it there is a way.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:46:50 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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Hi Andreas,

I'm glad you will participate here.  It is nice to have you back
personally and professionally.


<<Frankly, I don't think that any of the existing companies that support
the 200LX would still exist if it were for profit. Companies like
Thaddeus, SS&S, or D&A are driven by enthusiasm for a great platform.>>

Speaking for Thaddeus, yes and no.  It is the enthusiasm for the great
platform that causes us to be in this business. However, we are
profitable and we will stay in business only as long as we are
profitable.

I do think it is our responsibility to "educate" our customer base why
we price things as we do, since we are all "spoiled" by huge companies
with huge volumes keeping pricing low. Those of us supporting the 200LX
are in a small volume marketplace. Our goals are to give a good value
for what is paid, not to be as inexpensive as possible.

Feel free not to respond <g> as I know you didn't want to get into
pricing issues.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:00:11 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Content-Type: text/plain

Good luck getting Trans Digital to produce anything for the TransPC card.
Jersey<sp?> is the guy I have talked to, and while a nice guy and eager to
be helpful, I don't believe Trans Digital has the personnel to make
additions/changes to the software related to the TransPC card.  I think they
bought it from someone and are only a product provider, not the actual
developer(s) of the product.

The reason I called Trans Digital for support, and subsequently the reason
for my opinion, is as follows.

I use the Iomega Zip drive on both my palmtop and PC.  I wanted a driver to
load the LPT support in config.sys instead of having no LPT until after I
got a command prompt.  I think that with a config.sys level driver, I can
use the config.sys level support for the Zip drive.  After several weeks of
"I'll see what I can do, I'm quite busy." I gave up.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal Goldstein SMTP:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM
>
<snip>

> We contacted Trans Digital after the post and the author of the post and
> Trans Digital engineer are talking. Haven't heard of any results.
>
<snip>

> Hal at Thaddeus
>

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:01:18 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: 1999 CD InfoBase
In-Reply-To:  <199904051040_MC2-709C-C91C@compuserve.com> from "Ed Keefe" at
              Apr 5, 99 10:38:58 am
Content-Type: text

> Extensive searching and testing proved that there was no DOS software that
> rivaled the capabilities of HyperReader. That was true six years ago and is
> even more true today.  If there were such a hypothetical, hypertext, DOS
> program, the conversion process would be time consuming and cost
> prohibitive: best guesstimate-8 months.

My $.02 ... I don't really care for the hypertext program on the CD
anyway.  What's valuable to me is the information.  If you just provided
a CD with the bare material - i.e., files in whatever native format
they come in, I would be happy.  I would be even happier if that native
format were something simple, like ASCII.  HTML would be okay, yet I
understand the conversion is prohibitive....

-Chris

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:02:30 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: COLINS
In-Reply-To:  <B0AB4DD57CD5D1118A230060975A10051D1B25@mailhost.thaddeus.com>
              from "Hal Goldstein" at Apr 5, 99 09:36:56 am
Content-Type: text

> Unfortunately, there is not much more we can do to look into it as
> Collins no longer supports it. (It took many months of negotiating to
> get permission to reprint the manual and sell it again).  My hope is
> that someone on this list will discover something it there is a way.

Thanks for your reply.  I was hoping that you also had some access to
technical information on the program, perhaps access to the source
code, and had the capability to look into it further.  I see the
situation more clearly now...

-Chris

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:03:01 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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From:         Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
Subject:      Re: 1999 CD InfoBase
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

How about a HyperReader for the LX? <big encouraging smile>

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Keefe SMTP:EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM
>
<snip>

> Extensive searching and testing proved that there was no DOS software that
> rivaled the capabilities of HyperReader.
>
<snip>

> .ed.PTP
>

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:19:51 -0600
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              "Marks, David B" <dbmarks@SANDIA.GOV>
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From:         "Marks, David B" <dbmarks@SANDIA.GOV>
Subject:      Re: Leather Cases
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Try http://www.targus.com/products/handhelds.htm

I have one of their laptop cases and it's pretty sturdy.  I haven't tried
their handheld cases.  If anyone has the CH500, I'd like to know their
opinion, 'cause I'm thinking about getting that one.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:29:37 +0700
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              Steve Soper <ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID>
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From:         Steve Soper <ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID>
Subject:      WWW/LX: Multiple ISP's
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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I will probably get a RTFM - but:

I am going home to Phuket, Thailand - from Paiton, Indonesia - in a
couple weeks.  I will only stay for about a week, but I am really
excited because I can use our ultra-fast server over there.  It will be
a nice change from this excruciatingly slow server in Java.

I would like to set up WWW/LX - with Post and HV - to work with the
Phuket ISP before we go.  In other words, I would like the ability to
set up multiple ISP's.  Is that possible, and how do I do it?

Thank you,

Steve S.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:16:22 +0700
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              Steve Soper <ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID>
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From:         Steve Soper <ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID>
Subject:      Re: SC now Works!
Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net, John Musielewicz <a123456@bitstream.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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> > Anyway... LXCIC was somehow the culprit.  By experimenting, it seems
>

I also have a lot of crashes on my new 64 Mb Palmtop with SC - but the
ONLY time it happens is when I use modem cards.  This happens about
every third night when I put the modem in, the system freezes - I
don't know if it would help if I waited a while for the system to come
back to me, but don't usually have that much patience.  This has been
happening with either the new MegaHertz Modem, and the old standby EXP
Modem/memory card.  When I use a Memory Card I have no problems.

I haven't loaded LXCIC, but I think I will soon - I like the idea of
taking up less RAM.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:15:30 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, bbicioglu1@MMM.COM
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From:         Bulent Bicioglu <bbicioglu1@MMM.COM>
Subject:      Old CD Infobase
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I am looking for an old CD Infobase with a reasonable price?

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:55:05 -0400
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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From:         Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: 1999 CD InfoBase
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Chris Lott:

If all you want is the information in ASCII format, you've got it already=

on the CD.

The CD contains all the PTP ON DISKs. Each ON DISK has a PTPxx.TXT file
that contains the text (ASCII) version of the issue. Go for it! =


.ed.PTP

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:19:58 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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From:         "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Outlook Mailing List
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Several folks are actively working to make this Outlook synch thing a reality.
Since there is some money riding on the completion of an application, it is
important that the donors agree on what they want the app to do. I have set up
a mailing list just for the discussion of the Synch applicatoin and its
capabilities.

To subscribe, send an email to outlook-request@palmtop.net with the word
subscribe in the message body.
--
Mitch
SUPER Team

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:57:11 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM>
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Thanks for the other suggestions.  Russell Hemery pointed out DFL, which is
a much more complete tool than TWINFIND.  The size of the executable
reflects that difference too -- 244,784 bytes (98,666 after compressing with
DIET) versus roughly 80Kbytes (10,447 after DIET).

I like their approach and will likely register this shareware package.

        Alan

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:31:29 -0700
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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From:         Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
Subject:      Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light
Comments: To: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Actually, I agree with you Hal about the difficulties of offering a good
price and at the same time being able to stay in business. In the case of
the pocket lite, it just seemed a bit high. But my take is always this: good
useful equipment is priceless because it saves time and makes my life
easier. And in any case, if I don't know what the lowest (warehouse) price
is, I don't really care...

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 1999 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light


> Hi Claud.
>
> <<His price, at $19.95, is somewhat better than $24.95.  However, Mitch
> sold
> these for $6 to $8 (and I bought one).  What caused the price to go up
> so
> much?>>
>
> and Philippe,
>
> <<Well, let me tell you that 24.95$ is a
> pure ripoff for something like that.>>
>
> I will give a truthful but perhaps an unpopular explanation. As
> consumers (especially sophisticated ones like those of us on this
> mailing list), we are all used to buying computer products from very
> efficient warehouse companies who have lots of products with lots of
> volume and low profit margins.
>
> We have sadly seen the demise of ACE, EduCalc and a number of other
> 200LX-related businesses. My experience is that the way to stay
> profitable with a low volume of sales is to find products of good value
> to the customer that can be sold with high margin.
>
> We had a good year last year and we are holding our own this year.  We
> have a number of products in which our cost of the product (eg CD
> InfoBase, SuperSoftware Carousel, even our rechargeable batteries) is
> much less than what we charge. These are, in fact, the same Flexlites
> that Mitch sold.  I purchased them through Mitch (saving him the hassle
> of selling them individually).
>
> It costs us a lot to create and mail out 50K catalogs, to process
> orders, do support, take returns etc.
>
> From the consumers point of view we feel there are a number of benefits
> dealing with us to offset that we don't try to be the lowest price.  If
> people buy from us, they know they will get what they order, it will be
> worth the cost (eg the product has good value), and we will take returns
> without hassling or a restocking fee.  Further, we are motivated to
> continually find more products for the 200LX as long as we can make a
> fair profit.
>
>
>
> This business in paying my salary and the salary of a number of others
> in our small town. No one is getting rich -- not that that would be a
> bad thing, but, we are doing OK.
>
> Hope that explains things.
>
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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:53:22 -0700
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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From:         Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
Subject:      Re: Leather Cases
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MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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I have the CH500 and I'm very happy with it. Only problems: if you store the
cellphone in there, it can be a pain to retrieve if it rings. If you use the
little elastics to keep the batteries and want to easily slide the palmtop
in and out from one end, the palmtop will eventually push the batteries out
of the elastics.

I also have the CH300 (I got both and more Targus stuff when Egghead Sofware
closed...) and I use it when the CH500 is too big for my needs.

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Marks, David B <dbmarks@SANDIA.GOV>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: Leather Cases


> Try http://www.targus.com/products/handhelds.htm
>
> I have one of their laptop cases and it's pretty sturdy.  I haven't tried
> their handheld cases.  If anyone has the CH500, I'd like to know their
> opinion, 'cause I'm thinking about getting that one.
>
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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:19:51 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Receive but cannot post to HPLX

Hi

Does anyone have any thoughts on the below problem?

___________forwarded message_____________

Eng. & Industrial Projects writes:
> John,
>
> I just grabbed your post from HPLX list as
> it was the first one.
>
> I've posted a few emails over the three of four
> weeks, and have just realises that they are not
> getting through (I wondered why no-one was
> talking back!) The email address I am using and
> have always used is below, is this still current?
> is this what you are using? Plain text emails
> only being posted (not HTML)
>
> HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>
> Any help appreciated,
>
> Regards......Liam
> Bunbury, Western Australia
>

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:50:13 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX: Multiple ISP's

Steve Soper writes:
> I will probably get a RTFM - but:
>

What's an RTFM?<g>

> Phuket ISP before we go.  In other words, I would like the ability to
> set up multiple ISP's.  Is that possible, and how do I do it?

I donno if this is what you need but under setup in WWWSETUP you
can just select your ISP and set it up. Where you select
Compuserve, IBM, AT&T, etc.. Setup whichever ISPs you need then
select it useing the spacebar. Any ISPs you aren't using at the
moment will still be saved even if they are not selected. You can
just run wwwsetup and reselect whenever you need to change your
ISP. I use www/lx 1 but I think 2 is pretty much the same. HTH

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Subject:      Re: How to run Volkov
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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:22:04 -0600, Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM> =
wrote:

> Volkov doesn't run on a speed upgraded machine, but I have created a =
patch
> for it that is on the Super site.  Just do a search from the main page =
for
> Volkov and it will pull up "Volkov Commander" and "Volkov Commander DS
> Patch".

Thanks for the info. on the patch Mack, it worked great.

Now, I would like to know where to get some viewers for Volkov for
viewing: .wk1 ,.zip, arc, lzh, arj , etc.

Also has anybody got vcsetup to run?


Regards,

Qman...

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hp 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Andreas

you wrote;

> A while ago, I was participating in this list, but stopped because of
> the flame wars and because members of the list started posting support

I am new to the list and was curious what exactly 'flame
wars' are. Could you enlighten me?

Rian

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first, thanks for the response....
especially since  it is missing a few lines..




> > first, i use wwwwlx/post/lx and pe as my editor.  for ths list i know
> > that it is sinful and punishable to use overly long quotes.  for =
work,
> > though, it is necessary.  but, the software always asks me if i want =
to
> Which software asks? What does the question look like,
> please?

i want to quote...i have to for work.  but, there are tabs in the
messages and pe always asks if i should keep or replace them with
spaces.  is there a default that can be automatic or do we have to live
with this?


>
> Editor=3Dpe $f $h

i know what the $f means, but what does $h?  it does work, by the way.
great!!!!!! thanks

>
> TempMsgFile=3Dpost.tmp
>
> This will pickup the original message and put it in
> post.tmp. That file will be opened in $f. $h is for the
> original message headers... It'll be a second file PE
> opens. Move among open files in PE by using F7=3DNext.
>
> > last, when replying to emails, pe always encounters tabs and asks me
> > what i want to do...is there a default that can be set?
>
> Do you also have in POST.CFG

i think this is related to my first garbles question....

>
> Clog=3D0   or Clog=3D1   The latter clogs your process with
> lots of questions, confirmations, bla, bla...


what exactly is clog? i have to get the latest pe docs, but i just cant
remember...

thanks for your help, though.


dave

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Dave - <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> I have seen much going on about pda connections to the net via cel
> phones..  I am looking for a new cell phone (digital) and was wondering
> what people in the states use for this

I have a Motorola SC725 digital/analog cel phone and a
ApexData (Smart Modular) 33.6 PCMCIA cel-capable modem and use
both with WWW/LX Plus for Internet Email and web browsing and
acCIS for CompuServe Email and forum message work.  Works
great!

The Smart Modular PCMCIA modem will work with a variety of cel
phones, you just need the right cable.

I just have Bell Atlantic Mobil cellular service here in New
Jersey, but the phone goes into analog modem in order to make
a data call.


Stan

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> All of things that you listed can be changed by editing  your pe.cfg
>

i take it that this is in the pe docs?
i'll get the latest off the web...

thanks

dave>

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> I have the CH500 and I'm very happy with it. Only problems:
> if you store the
> cellphone in there, it can be a pain to retrieve if it rings.
> If you use the
> little elastics to keep the batteries and want to easily
> slide the palmtop
> in and out from one end, the palmtop will eventually push the
> batteries out
> of the elastics.

I was planning to use the cellphone pocket for the AC adapter.  In the
picture, it looks kind of narrow.  Will the adapter fit?

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Make proposition, 1 or 2 or 4 mo............

PLease!       :)

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Is it possible to use internet with 200 lx???

HOW ???

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:51:27 -0500
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Flame Wars are non-productive dissertations between two or more persons.
Usually a Flame War starts when someone states a non-truth, or a belief that
is unsubstantiated.  Sometimes a post is deliberately written to cause
strife.  Parties partaking in a Flame War are usually easy to provoke and as
such should be avoided.  If you believe a post is inflammatory,
unnecessarily reactionary, or you feel yourself angered and feel the urge to
reply hastily, then it is probably an attempt to start a Flame War.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rian Maartens SMTP:maartens@IAFRICA.COM
>
<snip>

> I am new to the list and was curious what exactly 'flame
> wars' are. Could you enlighten me?
>
> Rian
>

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Yes it is.  If you have a web browser, direct it to http://www.dasoft.com

Both the question of possibility and the question of method will be answered
by this web link.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mihlo SMTP:mihlo@CLUB-INTERNET.FR
>
<snip>

> Is it possible to use internet with 200 lx???
>
> HOW ???
>

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From:         Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT>
Subject:      Re: NKIT/Turbo  C Help
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Thanks, Alan
Regards

Antonio


> i think you picked the "wrong" sample programs to start with.
>
> the files you used are sources for libraries.
> any "normal" program has a function named "main()" to start the execution
> with. the startup code in c0s.obj tries to call this program entry point.
> look into the files you compiled - there is no function "main()".
>
> try this simple classic program:
>
> ---------------
>
> #include "stdio.h"
> main()
> {
>    printf("hello world!\n");
> }
>
> ----------------
>
> this one HAS a function named main(). if you still get error messages, they
> will most likely be different.
> every great programmer started out making small steps and big mistakes.
>
> alan
>
>

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Send mail to this address:

LISTSERV@UConnVM.UConn.Edu

Use no subject, and in the body of the message place this:

QUERY HPLX-L

When you get a reply from the List Server, you can look to see what is set
(on not set) effecting your HPLX-L mail.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Musielewicz SMTP:a123456@bitstream.net
>
(forwarded for: Liam - Bunbury, Western Australia)

<snip>

> > I've posted a few emails over the three of four
> > weeks, and have just realises that they are not
> > getting through (I wondered why no-one was
> > talking back!)
>
<snip>

> > Regards......Liam
> > Bunbury, Western Australia
>

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Hi!

     I have noticed alot of New LX users on the HPLX-L, so I thought I
would comment that there is an FAQ(Frequently Asked Questions)
available from:

http://www.hplx.net/faq.html

BTW(By The Way):

FlameWars: When two or more individules start an argument which
           degenerates quickly to exchange of insults.

RTFM: Read The F***'n Manual

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
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*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
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> Is it possible to use internet with 200 lx???

Of course.

>
> HOW ???

The complete WWW package WWW/LX by D&A Software.
Browser, mail .news, ftp, telnet
Or LXTCP (mail, news, telnet, ftp) by Rod Whitby coupled with
the Arachne web browser.
Or Goin' Postal (mail) by Steve Lawson coupled with LXNNTP from
LXTCP for news coupled with Arachne (browser)

LXTCP and Arachne are free but hard to set up.
WWW/LX and Goin' Postal are commercial but are easier
to set up. With Arachne you'll need megs for the program and
at least a couple megs for a swap file--not for the faint of
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Rich
I am very interested in you have that Paradox  3.5
Tony

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On Sun, 04 Apr 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote:

>>From the consumers point of view we feel there are a number of benefits
>dealing with us to offset that we don't try to be the lowest price.  If
>people buy from us, they know they will get what they order, it will be
>worth the cost (eg the product has good value), and we will take returns
>without hassling or a restocking fee.  Further, we are motivated to
>continually find more products for the 200LX as long as we can make a
>fair profit.

Indeed.  I have ordered items from your company, and I must add that I find it
satifying to deal with a company that satisfies its customers.  Having ordered
items from the internet  before and never received them, I can say with all
honesty that it is worth it to me to pay a little extra if I know I will
recieve the product.  Overall, I have been quite satisfied in my dealings with
your company, and I hope you continue in the 200LX business for quite a long
time to come.

Regards,

David Ball

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Andreas Garzotto wrote:
>
> A while ago, I was participating in this list, but stopped because of
> the flame wars and because members of the list started posting support
>

Welcome back, your help and/or advice is needed here.

                                         Terry Livingston

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I have recovered corrupted phone book files several times using a disk
editor.

Phone book files get corrupted when the @%$*(* HP locks up without
closing the phone book first.

Bob

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:44:57 -0600
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For a US Robotics 9600 Worldport, try George McCourt at 800-705-0100. He has
new ones at a very reasonable price.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Mark Weiss wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I am a newbie to the list.  I have been using my HP95 since '93.
> I have not outgrown it.  It still does everything that I need.
>
> I am looking for a modem which will fit in the cradle next to the
> computer.  If not I wll use one of the older worlport modems
> If I can find one.  Pref 9600 at least.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mark Weiss
>
> Mark Weiss  Ham Radio Call K7VQU  Packet:K7VQU@N6EEG.NCA.CA.USA.NOAM
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.11 - Test Drive
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aguze118 wrote:
>
> Rich
> I am very interested in you have that Paradox  3.5
> Tony
>
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If not I have a full copy of paradox 3.5

                    Bob1

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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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From:         "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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Hi Al,

For some reason my postings to HPLX list are not getting
through, any ideas?

Below is my query reply from the listserv:

> QUERY HPLX-L
Subscription options for "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>, list
HPLX-L:

MAIL           You are sent individual postings as they are received
MIME           You prefer to receive messages in MIME format
FULLHDR        Full (normal) mail headers (formerly "FULLBSMTP")
REPRO          You receive a copy of your own postings
NOACK          No acknowledgement of successfully processed postings

Subscription date: 26 Jul 1998

The topics you subscribe to are: All

Summary of resource utilization
-------------------------------
CPU time:        0.003 sec                Device I/O:        4
Overhead CPU:    0.003 sec                Paging I/O:        0
CPU model:        2003                    DASD model:     3380

It has got me puzzled, seemed to stop around the time the server went
down 2-3 weeks ago? I think you were sunning yourself in Chicago.

Best regards.......Liam

PS.  I have also sent a copy of this email to the listserv.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:12:02 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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> I am new to the list and was curious what exactly 'flame
> wars' are.

It is a (cyberspace) metaphor for offensive discussion; angry, excited
accusational verbal fight.

Andreas

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:21:54 +0800
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              ar <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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This "flat silver piece of metal" could be the foil that covers the inside
surface of the unit. It does not connect to anything as far as I know. I
just left it as it was and it was fine.

brgds

Anand Rao

At 11:17 AM 05-04-99 Monday , you wrote:
>Steve D. writes:

>> BTW, the AC jack has a small flat silver piece of metal coming out the back
>> at an angle toward the back of the unit. It looks like it is a contact of
>> some sort, but I can't see what it's supposed to be contacting. Any thoughts
>> about that?
>
>
>
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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:22:14 +0800
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              ar <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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I have had no problems dialing in from many cities in PRC - Beijing, Shanghai
and even remote locations like Shenyang and Changchun. I tried the normal IDD
and not any calling card.

The only locations where I had a problem was Australia, New Zealand and Fiji.
I'm told it was something to do with the phone line voltages being incompatible
with my PCMCIA modem but did not investigate further. But then that is another
story ...


brgds
Anand Rao

At 04:12 PM 05-04-99 Monday , you wrote:
>
> Hi List,
>
> Can you share your experience if you have success in send/retrieve email with
> HP200lx in Shanghai?
>
> TIA
> J H Chin



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<html>
I have had no problems dialing in from many cities in PRC - Beijing,
Shanghai and even remote locations like Shenyang and Changchun. I tried
the normal IDD and not any calling card. <br>
<br>
The only locations where I had a problem was Australia, New Zealand and
Fiji. I'm told it was something to do with the phone line voltages being
incompatible with my PCMCIA modem but did not investigate further. But
then that is another story ...<br>
<br>
<br>
brgds<br>
Anand Rao<br>
<br>
At 04:12 PM 05-04-99 Monday , you wrote: <br>
<font size=2 color="#000000"><blockquote type=cite cite>Hi
List,</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font size=2 color="#000000">Can you share your experience if you have
success in send/retrieve email with HP200lx in Shanghai?</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font size=2 color="#000000">TIA</font><br>
J H Chin</blockquote><br>
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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:50:38 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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The AC adapter fits very snugly in the cellphone pocket (the cord sticks
out, will perhaps fit in the elastic that normally holds a battery). Now if
they changed the size of the pocket even slightly... although you could have
a leatherworker make one for you to the exact dimensions if needed.

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Marks, David B <dbmarks@SANDIA.GOV>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: Leather Cases


> > I have the CH500 and I'm very happy with it. Only problems:
> > if you store the
> > cellphone in there, it can be a pain to retrieve if it rings.
> > If you use the
> > little elastics to keep the batteries and want to easily
> > slide the palmtop
> > in and out from one end, the palmtop will eventually push the
> > batteries out
> > of the elastics.
>
> I was planning to use the cellphone pocket for the AC adapter.  In the
> picture, it looks kind of narrow.  Will the adapter fit?
>
> Dave
>
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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:29:06 -0700
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX: Multiple ISP's
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Steve,

> I will probably get a RTFM - but:

Don't mention this word where I can read it! :-)

> I would like to set up WWW/LX - with Post and HV - to work with the
> Phuket ISP before we go.  In other words, I would like the ability to
> set up multiple ISP's.  Is that possible, and how do I do it?

Yes, I use about 8 ISPs now I think...

Run WWWSETUP select SETUP then press + the plus button to
add a SETUP (which is just an ISP setup)... Enter the info
required, and then press F10 to save it. Done.

In Post/LX press in the main screen F2 - ADD and follow the
prompts on the screen to add an email folder....

Enjoy the island and the speed. If I were you, I'd leave
the palmtop back home and just go to Phuket Island and just
enjoy life! Screw Email!!! :)

  Avi M. D&A

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Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH> wrote on Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:04:23
+0100:

> A while ago, I was participating in this list, but stopped because of
> the flame wars and because members of the list started posting support
> questions to the address I use here instead of the D&A support address,
> which is equipped for support.

Welcome back.

D&A Now has 4 people doing support and we can draw on a 5th
person if necessary.

It is very important to us that your time will be dedicated
to improvements, to thinking about new stuff, and if
needed, to essential issues in the product. I believe the
support organization at D&A is now capable of handling just
about anything that anyone can throw at us. I also bring
things up into the Beta occasionally, as do the support
staff. So plenty of support venues exist.

word about the beta Team: That team has been convened since
1996 and has proven absolutely invaluable to the quality
of the products and the depth of what we put out.

Thanks for coming back in-persona non-obscura.

Oh, profitable: Yes, we make profit. Not much but some.
The entusiasm we have helps to get past the tough spots.
But we have to remain profitable and keep up with
expenses, and retain D&a as a viable business. So far,
thanks to your help, it has worked. Thank you.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:55:39 +0200
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From:         Rian Maartens <maartens@IAFRICA.COM>
Subject:      Flame wars - Why, why why? <was Hello again>
Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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> > I am new to the list and was curious what exactly 'flame
> > wars' are.
>
> It is a (cyberspace) metaphor for offensive discussion; angry, excited
> accusational verbal fight.

hmmm .. I wonder why people do that on this list?

Could it be that they are not happily married?
Perhaps traumatic childhood or a lousy psychologist?
Perhaps utter frustration that their PC won't run as well
as their palmtop?
Or is the old thing of 'my point of view is the only point of
view'?

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:03:32 +0300
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Dragos Mos <dragos@LEGO.RDSOR.RO>
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From:         Dragos Mos <dragos@LEGO.RDSOR.RO>
Subject:      Re: Norton Commander
Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <199903242209.QAA06321@ro.com>
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        If you are looking for a good Norton Commander that could run
properly on a HPLX I can recommend you the NC-clone Dos Navigator 1.42,
that is a much better and faster version of NC.
I use both of them on a Olivetti Quaderno XT palmtop, but I always
prefere the DN for it's extra features.
Has also Terminal functions, Phone book, and others fancy features...
If you want to try it, check on Altavista for "dos navigator 1.42
download".
        Good luck!

     Regards,
Dragos Mos- Oradea  Romania
     '   '
dragos@lego.rdsor.ro

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:02:22 -0700
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SMTP the real meaning -

Send Mail To People ... There, that makes it easier to
remember than Simple Mail Transfer Protocol. :)

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:35:30 +1000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi all

This site is a bonanza for LX vintage stuff.

http://www.ncsc.dni.us/fun/user/tcc/cmuseum/helpline/helpline.htm

Regards

Russell

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:19:01 +0200
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              John Fowler <johnf@GIMS.COM>
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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:21:14 -0400
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
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Tom Nemeth <tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> I have a Motorola cd920 GSM cell phone and I was wondering if my cable
> connection is the same as yours?   My phone has a sort of square shovel
> spade connection

Those different cel phone cables look very similar and I
cannot tell from your description if your's is the same.  My
cable is for several Motorola cel phones such as the SC725 and
Elite and compatables.

You have already ordered the Simple 33.6 modem?  Then you will
have to check with Simple for the list of cables available for
it to see if they support your phone.  Also, the Mobil Planet
web site (www.mplanet.com) lists the cables with the modems.
I also found Mobile Planet Tech Support helpful in double
checking that my setup would all work together.

I don't know if GSM phones are somehow different from analog
cel phones in terms of working with data.  I think they are.
So, you may not even be able to use the Simple 33.6 modem.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:21:12 -0400
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
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Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM> wrote:

> Is there a way to connect a Motorola Microtac Lite II to any modem without
> buying an expensive data cable? Or is there an interface that is necessary

In order to use a cel phone with a modem, it has to be either
a cellular-capable modem or you need that expensive interface
box.  There is no short cut.

What kind of connector is on the bottom of that phone?  Is it
the standard large sized Motorola connector like on the flip
phones?  If yes, then I have (maybe for sale) a Motorola
Cellect Pocket modem that will work with that type of cel
phone.  The modem is a little smaller than then palmtop and
runs on a 9 volt battery.  I used it for more than a year
until I got a different cel phone that had a different kind of
connector.

There is no other pocket sized modems that I know of with
cellular capabilities.  I now use a PCMCIA modem with the
appropriate cable for my phone.  Works great in the palmtop
and cost me less than $170.  This modem will work with many
different phones, you just need the right cable.


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:49:15 -0400
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              Bill Sprague <eugarps@IBM.NET>
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Love it! d8)

Bill



> SMTP the real meaning -
>
> Send Mail To People ... There, that makes it easier to
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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:38:37 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      More on SC/LXCIC Problem
Content-Type: text

Whew!!!  That was a lot of work!  I finally narrowed my SC and LXCIC
conflict down to the following minimal set of configuration files.
For the record, I have configured four work areas in SC, one the regular
system manager, 2 and 3 the SSC pre-configured work areas, and a fourth
plain DOS work area.  Eack WA (Work Area) is allocated 570K of memory,
and my swap file on C drive is 6992K big.

I have consistently gotten my machine to lock up with the below config
files (I didn't include the two SSC batch files for WA2&3, as I never
invoke them to get this error).  What I do is start up hard reset... after
WA 1 boots up and gives me the topcard, I press ctrl-4 and go to the DOS
4 work area.  From here, the machine usually locks up within a matter
of a few seconds.  Usually just at the command prompt, though sometimes
not until I run a program (the Q editor I used a lot for my testing).
But... with the LXCIC command removed, I couldn't get it to lock.

A few oddities I've noticed about SC while doing all this testing...

(a) Always when the computer is going to lock up, and sometimes under
normal circumstances, the DOS WA#4 gets underway with an initial prompt
that includes four trailing spaces: e.g., "A:\>     " instead of "A:\> ".

(b) SC seems to invoke some sort of minimal command history, similar to a
dumb DOSKEY.  I noticed that the UP/DOWN arrows scroll through the command
history, even though I didn't load any such TSRs.... where is this function
coming from?  Built in to SC?

(c) I can't seem to kill a work area that is just running at the DOS prompt.
The SCMENU program reports that no programs are running in the Work Area!
And yet I know that COMMAND.COM is running...

(d) Where does the "DOS Work Area ##" prompt come from when you start a WA
without any batch file?  My normal batch files immediately reset the PROMPT,
but this appears to be another internal thing that SC does.  I haven't found
a way to turn this off or change the default prompt.

And.... I've finally gotten the LOAD123 program to work, once I comment out
the LXCIC TSR.  As someone commented, this is a short program that invokes
SYSMGR and automatically starts up Lotus 123.


Here are the configuration files.  Note the LXCIC entry in HP.BAT -
this is the one I comment out to make things work.  The only driver
I haven't tried taking out is rd32-stuff, because I would have had to
re-configure my SC in a fairly significant way, and it was late and I
was tired of re-booting!

Any expert opinions???


==== config.sys:
device=a:\spd31s.sys
shell=d:\dos\command.com /p /e:2048
files=40
buffers=40
lastdrive=j:
device=a:\rd32.sys

==== autoexec.bat:
@echo off
a:\rd32swap.exe
c:\sc7\carousel

==== hp.bat:  (Invoked by WA#1, the main work area)
@echo off
prompt $p$g
REM c:\bin\lxcic /L
200

==== dos4.bat: (Invoked by WA#4)
@echo off
prompt $p$g



-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:19:37 -0500
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Send your server requests to the list server. <LISTSERV@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
And I believe the correct method is UNSUBSCRIBE HPLX-L

And by the way, organization is misspelled in your footer.

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Phil Drummond wrote:

> And by the way, organization is misspelled in your footer.
>

Not if he is British !!!!

Gee, anal today, are we???

john

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> > the organisation the views in this message are therefore not necessarily

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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Sorry, M$ spell checker.  I guess I should install the omni-aware.dll in
here some day.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Evans - N0HJ SMTP:jaevans@CODENET.NET
>
> Phil Drummond wrote:
> > And by the way, organization is misspelled in your footer.
> >
>
> Not if he is British !!!!
> Gee, anal today, are we???
> john
        -- John A. Evans, N0HJ -- jaevans@codenet.net

> > > -----Original Message-----
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> > > the organisation the views in this message are therefore not
> necessarily
>

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:39:02 -0400
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> Not that I know of. The tabs are NOT coming from PE, but
> from the original message. If you can convince your
> correspondents to use decent mail programs .... :)

got it! now it works after changing pe.cfg
>
> > > Editor=3Dpe $f $h
> >
>
> > i know what the $f means, but what does $h?  it does work, by the =
way.
> > great!!!!!! thanks
>
> As I said, the HEADERS of the message being quoted. Just
> press F7 to see that part.

ahhhhh.  got this too!

>
> Andreas had originally a much worse name for the various
> confirmation messages and prompts that some software on
> desktops has all over? (Delete. Are you sure? Yes, ReallY?
> Yes, Really-really? Yes, You will not regret this and feel
> like a dork later? Yes. Ok - press OK to confirm this
> choice!) You know what I mean right. We convinced him that
> "clog" is a passable name for a commercial program. :)

and yes, changed this too.  now i feel so much more
efficient.

i think it was andreas that said it was not possible to
remove the message about your email having too much
quotation....i see this as a helpful thing but for work, not
quoting means more work for the email challenged.  oh well.
i can live with that.

thanks all for helping me with this.  i am now 75% computing
by hp200 and 100% email.  gosh, i love this machine!

dave

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:38:58 -0500
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After almost 6 months of trying to get permission from Microsoft to sell
Windows 3, Excel, and Word, we have made some progress -- sort of.

It seems that Excel and Word are what slowed things down.  I think we
will be able to sell Windows 3 for the Palmtop, but not Excel or Word.

My question is this. Should we?  Does anyone on the list regularly use
Windows 3 on their palmtop?  The reason why we wanted Win 3 was that
Excel and Word users could exchange data back and forth.  However, now
it seems we can't legally make Win 3 versions of Excel and Word
available.

Are there other Win 3 freeware/shareware apps and games that people use?
Should we make it available for the novelty of it? How stable is Win 3
on the Palmtop?

Another problem is that we likely will not be able distribute and Win 3
documentation other than our own.

Your feedback will help determine whether we should offer it as a
product. If we did, we would try to make installation and getting
started as easy as possible.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:45:50 +0200
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Hi Chris


R. Christopher Lott writes:
> Whew!!!  That was a lot of work!  I finally narrowed my SC and

Glad to hear you are still working on it. I'm no expert but
I'll chuck my suggestions in anyway<g> since I'm not having
a problem with lockups.

>
> ==== config.sys:
> device=a:\spd31s.sys

I'm not using a shell command and wondered if 2k wasn't
a little high for the enviroment since your not setting
any varibles? Maybe 512 or 256?

> shell=d:\dos\command.com /p /e:2048
> files=40

40 is an aweful lot of buffers. Do you need that many? I
use 5 and experience no slowdown. They use quite a bit of ram.

> buffers=40
> lastdrive=j:
> device=a:\rd32.sys
>
> ==== autoexec.bat:
> @echo off

I load the swap tsr in the config.sys file.

> a:\rd32swap.exe
> c:\sc7\carousel
>
> ==== hp.bat:  (Invoked by WA#1, the main work area)
> @echo off
> prompt $p$g

Maybe try loading lxcic in the autoexec.bat? Thats where I have
mine and I don't have any lockups. It only uses about 500 bytes
of low ram.

> REM c:\bin\lxcic /L
> 200
>
> ==== dos4.bat: (Invoked by WA#4)
> @echo off
> prompt $p$g

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:50:17 -0700
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Seems to me that somebody said that Windows 3.0 programming isn't terribly
difficult.  It might open up a whole new platform for palmtop
applications.

However, the main disadvantage I see with Windows 3 is that you really
need a decent pointing device to wo with it.  Currently we don't really
have much in this department.  Which is why I use Windows 2.03 and hardly
ever use my Easy Cat touchpad... It's just so much easier when everything
can be done with the keyboard.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:58:17 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:38:58 -0500, Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> wrote:

> Are there other Win 3 freeware/shareware apps and games that people use?
> Should we make it available for the novelty of it? How stable is Win 3
> on the Palmtop?

I have it loaded and it is stable and works A-OK, but it's really just a
novelty for me. although I sometimes use WinFax to send a fax, but that's
really just to impress myself. I would be willing to bet that you would sell
quite a few copies of it, so I say "go for it."

73 Jeff

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Subject:      Re: Windows 3 on palmtop

Hal Goldstein writes:
> After almost 6 months of trying to get permission from Microsoft to sell
> Windows 3, Excel, and Word, we have made some progress -- sort of.
>

Its this kind of effort that will keep this platform going!!!
Have you thought about trying to disstribute Wordperfect?

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On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:50:17 -0700, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> However, the main disadvantage I see with Windows 3 is that you really
> need a decent pointing device to wo with it.  Currently we don't really
> have much in this department.

Actually..... the older version of NoMouse works quite well and is still
available as a commercial product. It's what I use with my little setup.
Maybe Hal could sell it also?

73 Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:05:42 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Windows 3 on palmtop
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              "David Sargeant" at Apr 6, 99 07:50:17 am
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> However, the main disadvantage I see with Windows 3 is that you really
> need a decent pointing device to wo with it.

I disagree with this statement.  I've played with Win 3.0 some, and found
that the normal built-in keyboard support in 3.0 was plenty adequate for
me.  At that point, I think MS was still sincerely trying to support the
keyboard-only mode of use.

But, I agree that there is a problem if we can't legally get copies
of Excel and Word....

Hal:  I realize that these negotiations must be slow and difficult,
but here's an option to consider.  Could you get permission to distribute
copies of Word and Excel to people who buy a current version and send
you the license (or manual, actual media, or some proof that you and
MS can agree upon)??  Effectively, we would have to buy and throw away
a current version of the programs in order to get permission to use
the older copies.  I've heard of some companies that permit this
kind of version-swapping, maybe MS would consider it.

Just my $0.02 worth.

-Chris

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:06:42 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Windows 3 on palmtop
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Strikes me as a good idea _only_ for its WinCE appeal. In other
words, the idea of Windows 3 on a machine the size of a 200lx
(1) is cute; (2) has `gee-whiz' appeal; (3) is practically
speaking useless; and (4) is likely to distract from useful work.
This gives it almost all of the characteristics of the typical
WinCE device. Now if you can make it cost a lot, then it will have
_all_ of the characteristics of WinCE...

Hal Goldstein wrote:
>
> After almost 6 months of trying to get permission from Microsoft to sell
> Windows 3, Excel, and Word, we have made some progress -- sort of.
>
> It seems that Excel and Word are what slowed things down.  I think we
> will be able to sell Windows 3 for the Palmtop, but not Excel or Word.
>
> My question is this. Should we?  Does anyone on the list regularly use
> Windows 3 on their palmtop?  The reason why we wanted Win 3 was that
> Excel and Word users could exchange data back and forth.  However, now
> it seems we can't legally make Win 3 versions of Excel and Word
> available.
>
> Are there other Win 3 freeware/shareware apps and games that people use?
> Should we make it available for the novelty of it? How stable is Win 3
> on the Palmtop?
>
> Another problem is that we likely will not be able distribute and Win 3
> documentation other than our own.
>
> Your feedback will help determine whether we should offer it as a
> product. If we did, we would try to make installation and getting
> started as easy as possible.
>
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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:10:46 -0700
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On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> I disagree with this statement.  I've played with Win 3.0 some, and
> found that the normal built-in keyboard support in 3.0 was plenty
> adequate for me.  At that point, I think MS was still sincerely trying
> to support the keyboard-only mode of use.

Seems to me when I tried it that I wasn't able to draw anything in paint
using just the keyboard.  But I could be wrong...

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Subject:      Re: Windows 3 on palmtop

Win 3 has a novelty that might appeal to some people but what
I'd rather see are programs that have been discontinued made
availible again. Like Letterperfect, Computer Calculus
documentation, QFax, etc.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:55:26 -0400
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My .02.. I only use Word and Excel on Windows. I don't know of any other
useful programs that will run in windows real(? non-386) mode. I think that
if it's priced very low you'll sell copies but without Word and Excel it's
more of a curiosity than anything else.

OTOH, At least it comes with the "applets". Wordpad, terminal and paint may
be somewhat useful to some. Doesn't win3 wordpad allow you to save docuemnts
in word format? You can then use it to create WYSIWYG documents that you can
send to others.

In my doings, I find Excel to be the most useful. As a consultant, I fill
out timesheets on an Excel sheet and submit it via email.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal Goldstein mailto:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 10:39 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: HPLX-L Windows 3 on palmtop
>
>
> After almost 6 months of trying to get permission from
> Microsoft to sell
> Windows 3, Excel, and Word, we have made some progress -- sort of.
>
> It seems that Excel and Word are what slowed things down.  I think we
> will be able to sell Windows 3 for the Palmtop, but not Excel or Word.
>
> My question is this. Should we?  Does anyone on the list regularly use
> Windows 3 on their palmtop?  The reason why we wanted Win 3 was that
> Excel and Word users could exchange data back and forth.  However, now
> it seems we can't legally make Win 3 versions of Excel and Word
> available.
>
> Are there other Win 3 freeware/shareware apps and games that
> people use?
> Should we make it available for the novelty of it? How stable is Win 3
> on the Palmtop?
>
> Another problem is that we likely will not be able distribute
> and Win 3
> documentation other than our own.
>
> Your feedback will help determine whether we should offer it as a
> product. If we did, we would try to make installation and getting
> started as easy as possible.
>
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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:53:58 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Antonio Queiroz Menezes spotted this and I think it's good enough to announce
before we get permission to put it on the SUPER Site:

http://member.nifty.ne.jp/OGASA/download/db2csv02.lzh

It is a EXM applicatoin that will allow you to import and export from GDB and
PDB files with field selection and ordering.

The author also has an application called Fax Launcher that looks neat, but I
am not sure what it does just yet:

http://member.nifty.ne.jp/OGASA/hp200lx.htm

I have inquired with Toshiki to see if we can get some English translations and
permission to post these goodies.
--
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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:58:03 +0200
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Phil Drummond wrote:

> Flame Wars are non-productive dissertations between two or more persons.
> Usually a Flame War starts when someone states a non-truth, or a belief that
> is unsubstantiated.  Sometimes a post is deliberately written to cause
> strife.  Parties partaking in a Flame War are usually easy to provoke and as
> such should be avoided.  If you believe a post is inflammatory,
> unnecessarily reactionary, or you feel yourself angered and feel the urge to
> reply hastily, then it is probably an attempt to start a Flame War.
>
> Phil

No its not!!!!!





(Sorry could'nt resist...reminded me of a Monty Python "discussion"  :-)))

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:06:46 -0400
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From:         Bruce Francis <bfrancis@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Leather Cases
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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999 02:44:54 +0000, F. Kaufman wrote:

>I think that is the Palmtree leather case.  I have it, too, and would like another.

Is it #30105 on this page?

http://www.harb.net/cgi-bin/cgiblend?blender=po.blend&CompanyShortName=PalmTreeProductsInc.


This looks like a good case -- I gather you've really liked it?

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:14:49 +0200
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              Dejan Radic <dradic@EUNET.YU>
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>
> What puzzles me is the reference to "was displaying the subjects and the
> senders". Do you mean you see some list of senders or are
> you refering to the message list view (each message takes
> one line)?


> Also, how much time do you experience? In my version it
> takes a second, no more.
>
> Actually, with the Ricochet modem, after the program is
> done online, it takes almost 60 seconds before the modem
> actually breaks the connection, even in Datacomm. So maybe
> this is a modem issue? I am really not sure...


I ran a test. I wanted to download 500 message headers
and here are the results (using 14,400 modem):

When I pressed F5, and went online, NEWS/LX was activated
and the display showed:

action: quickscan in progress
status: ... packets

It counted about 380 packets (although I ordered -500),
which lasted 2'46". Afer that, there was another screen,
which didn't exist in the previous version (since it
disconnected the line right after finishing up counting
packets):

 action: attempting quickscan
 status: added header
subject: (changing)
   from: (changing)

This part is completely useless, since the programme
doesn't disconnect the line, and the staying online is not
necessary, because the whole process is the same as it did.
Even worse, the second part (attempting quickscan) lasts
even longer than the first one (quickscan in progress),
i.e. 3'24".

So, I'm asking again: if there's anyone who hasn't updated
his NEWS/LX V2.1, I would ask him to send it to me.

Thanks in advance.


P.S. I would like to hear your opinion about NATO
aggression, but address it on my private address, since the
list policy doesn't allow such contents.

Dejan Radic
Belgrade
Yugoslavia

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:32:25 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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Hello All,

I was finally able to get MINIX going on the palmtop a few weeks ago and am
currently working with David Sargeant on finding a home for the rather large
zip file.

There were several issues to overcome such as adding support for the palmtop
low power mode, being able to turn the machine on and off, as well as
reading the time from the palmtop since it has no CMOS.  After accomplishing
those things, there still is missing support for PCMCIA cards.

I still have some things I want to do with it, but I would like for folks to
start using it and checking it out for those of you interested in it.

I believe that an Accton Ethernet card can actually be used at some point by
using the Japanese point enabler, leaving the machine on, and use the NE2000
support built into MINIX, but there isn't enough memory to load the standard
INET support necessary to check it out. Someone may be able to figure out a
minimal INET configuration to try it, but I haven't spent enough time
looking at that aspect.

I am hoping that I can eventually allow the use of EMM to load processes so
that the memory limitation can be lifted, but that will take some time.  I
have changed the TREMM driver to allow for the use of up to 8 physical pages
at one time which would give 128k of available RAM per process, which is the
maximum for a MINIX process.  Now I need to add support in the kernel and
the memory manager to detect and utilize EMM to load and run processes from.

Someone should be able to make a smaller partition to have MINIX on without
the source code, etc. as I haven't done that.  It works fine from the C:
drive or from flash, so that should be a problem.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:39:02 -0400
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Hi All:

     The Archives have been just been updated.

Cheers,

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:40:22 -0500
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I instantly broke into laughter!  Thanks, I needed a high point to today.
:)

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Bergvill SMTP:martin@MOBILPOST.COM
<snip>
> Phil Drummond wrote:
>
> > Flame Wars ...
<snip>

> No its not!!!!!
>
> (Sorry could'nt resist...reminded me of a Monty Python "discussion"  :-)))
>
> --
> Med vennlig hilsen/Regards
>
> Martin Bergvill
>

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:45:49 +0200
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Avi wrote

> word about the beta Team: That team has been convened since
> 1996 and has proven absolutely invaluable to the quality
> of the products and the depth of what we put out.

Do you need more people for beta testing and what are the
requirements for being a beta team member?

Rian

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On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:32:25 -0500, Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM> wrote:

> I was finally able to get MINIX going on the palmtop a few weeks ago and am
> currently working with David Sargeant on finding a home for the rather large
> zip file.

I've seen it work and it's pretty cool <g>. Actually, the coolest thing was
seeing Mack run Minix on the LX during a ride along with me in the patrol
car :)

73 Jeff

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Does anyone use the HP's battery power when they connect with
Creative Labs' 14.4 PCMCIA Modem Blaster? How long can you
stay connected?   I immediately get a low battery message
when I try to connect to the www without the AC adaptor
plugged in. I note that Thaddeus sells these modems on the
basis of low power consumption and yet I have not been able
to use battery power to operate them. Am I doing something
wrong or could there be a problem with my hardware?  I also
get a 'card battery low' message when I switch the HP on
after plugging in the modem - even when AC adaptor is
plugged in.  Any advice or help welcome.
Rian.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:31:34 +0200
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Stan

Are you using the HP's battery power to connect? How many
minutes do you manage to stay online before getting low
battery messages?

Rian

> I am using a COM2 serial port speed of 38400 for landline and
> cellular use.  I thought I put a W1 in the init string so that
> I could see the true DCE connect speed, but it reported
> CONNECT 38400, so I think I didn't do the W1 correctly.  I
> will let you know when I find out the DCE speed over
> cellular.
>
> Stan

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:51:01 -0500
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<<Does anyone use the HP's battery power when they connect with
Creative Labs' 14.4 PCMCIA Modem Blaster? How long can you
stay connected?   I immediately get a low battery message
when I try to connect to the www without the AC adaptor
plugged in. >>

Which batteries to you use.  Non long-life Duracels and Rayovac's
typically don't do as well as Energizers.  Better are the lithium
energizers, or the new alkaline duracels and energizers designed for
electronic equipment.

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On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote:

> Which batteries to you use.  Non long-life Duracels and Rayovac's
> typically don't do as well as Energizers.  Better are the lithium
> energizers, or the new alkaline duracels and energizers designed for
> electronic equipment.

And best of all are rechargeable batteries, which don't last as long, but
which are better able to supply a constant voltage and avoid the "battery
low" messages.  I recommend the Times2 Tech / Thaddeus's "iBat" batteries.
Great rechargeables that are similar in color to an iMac.  <g>

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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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I am running a ICQ clone on my hp and that is aok.
But I would like to use WWW/LX instead of EPPPD.
Am I confused? Are they doing different things?
MICQ is shiped with EPPPD and works allright. But I cant spare the
disk space. I already have WWW/LX and then I would like to use it.

Running MICQ with WWW/LX connected gives me:
NO PACKET DRIVER FOUND

BTW the ICQ clone is found at: http://members.tripod.com/~ladsoft/

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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              Apr 6, 99 11:02:14 pm
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> I am running a ICQ clone on my hp and that is aok.
> But I would like to use WWW/LX instead of EPPPD.
> Am I confused?

I believe so.  Not being familiar with ICQ, I checked this web
site you gave and found it to be a chat client.  WWW/LX is a
stand-alone internet package that has its own low-level drivers.
I don't remember seeing a WWW/LX chat package....  But certainly
you won't be able to run any WWW/LX program with the EPPPD setup.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 04:58:08 +0700
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              Steve Soper <ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID>
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From:         Steve Soper <ssoper@PROBOLINGGO.WASANTARA.NET.ID>
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> Each has their own idea of the perfect case. I have tried several =
cases. At

I have also tried several.  My current favorite is a "Case Logic"
Walkman case.  It is made from black nylon and has two pockets; both
are nicely padded.  The rear pocket - the one that is next to the belt
loop - easily, and securely holds a Palmtop and an extra pair of
batteries.  The front pocket - designed to hold four cassettes - can
hold a charger and various cables; or, as in my case, papers, pens and
a small booklet.  It comes with a small nylon belt with quick
disconnecting buckle.  The price was about $5 in Bangkok.

Steve Soper

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:55:29 -0500
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I have a 2MB HP200LX.  My phonebook has 744 entries and is growing.  It
takes at least 45 seconds to save the file (even on AC - which is faster
than batteries.)
I use the Note field extensively.  I use the "Category" field.  I have
several subsets but dont use them.

Questions:
1.  Is there anything I can do to "speed up" the file saving (short of
purchasing a "double speed" unit?
2.  Will deleting the category field increase the speed of saving?
3.  Any _other_ suggestions?

Les

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:48:28 -0500
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              Leo Shepherd <Leo.Shepherd@FAA.GOV>
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     Many are using the 200lx itself and software to charge NiMh batteries.
     Is there also a separate charger unit that list members have found to
     be the best bang for the buck?  If so, I would appreciate the who,
     what, where, etc (not forgetting the about how much) as a response.

     Thx,

     Leo

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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Subject:      Re: BATTERY CHARGER
Comments: To: Leo Shepherd <Leo.Shepherd@FAA.GOV>
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>      Many are using the 200lx itself and software to charge NiMh batteries.
>      Is there also a separate charger unit that list members have found to
>      be the best bang for the buck?  If so, I would appreciate the who,
>      what, where, etc (not forgetting the about how much) as a response.

I have found the Radio Shack 23-405 1 hr charger to be excellent. Though
I don't use rechargables in my HP currently, the Hi-Cap Radio Shack
NiMH AAs and the 23-405 help curb the power appetite of my Kodak DC-210
digicam. The charger will do both NiCad and NiMH in AA, AAA and 9V. It
costs about $25 from what I remember.

--
Mitch
SUPER Team

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Make proposition, 1 or 2 or 4 mo............
=20
PLease!       :)
=20
a+
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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:28:05 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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I don't use NiMH cells in my palmtop, but I do use them.  The charger I like
is from Radio Shack and will charge NiCad and NiMH cells.  Yea, I know but,
I can't recall the part number, or the price.

The only warning I have when using this charger is that you should remove
the cover from the cell bay and provide fan-driven air flow over the NiMH
cells.  It is very important to keep NiMH cells below 100 deg. "F".  Ok, the
exact temperature and reason for why is just not in my brain.  I do this and
that's that. :)

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leo Shepherd SMTP:Leo.Shepherd@FAA.GOV
>
<snip>

>      Is there also a separate charger unit that list members have found to
>      be the best bang for the buck?
>
<snip>

>      Leo
>

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:35:28 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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One.   - Break the file up.
Two.   - Try holding the shift key when waiting for it to finish saving.
three. - Put the note fields into files and a filename in the note field.
         Then write a macro to open the file from the filename in the
         note field of the display record.
four.  - Sort out all the cute chick's records and archive them.
         Then send the archive file to me.  :)

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leslie Cohn SMTP:lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM
>
> I have a 2MB HP200LX.  My phonebook has 744 entries and is growing.  It
> takes at least 45 seconds to save the file (even on AC - which is faster
> than batteries.)
> I use the Note field extensively.  I use the "Category" field.  I have
> several subsets but dont use them.
>
> Questions:
> 1.  Is there anything I can do to "speed up" the file saving (short of
> purchasing a "double speed" unit?
> 2.  Will deleting the category field increase the speed of saving?
> 3.  Any _other_ suggestions?
>
> Les
>

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:45:29 +0000
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Micrograhx 2.x and Micrografx Designer 3.0 will work on Windows
3.0 in real mode, with CGA, with expanded memory, and I'm sure there
is other useful software available.  My copy of Windows 3.0 came
with a 146 page book called "Windows Shopping", listing all the Win
3.0 software available at the time.  I've found a few places on the
net that sells older software, and eBay is great also.  I recently
saw Pagemaker 3.0 being sold on eBay (which works with Win 3.0, but
not sure if in real mode).  I just bought Power Point 2.0 from a
site.  It works with Win 3.0 (I'm not sure if in real mode), but the
instructions say it needs at least an EGA screen.  I have yet to test
this however.  Does anybody know if Power Point 2.0 will work with
CGA and in real mode?

--Ted

On  6 Apr 99 11:55, Ed Padin wrote:
From: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>

> My .02.. I only use Word and Excel on Windows. I don't know of any
> other useful programs that will run in windows real(? non-386) mode.
> I think that if it's priced very low you'll sell copies but without
> Word and Excel it's more of a curiosity than anything else.
>
> OTOH, At least it comes with the "applets". Wordpad, terminal and
> paint may be somewhat useful to some. Doesn't win3 wordpad allow you
> to save docuemnts in word format? You can then use it to create
> WYSIWYG documents that you can send to others.
>
> In my doings, I find Excel to be the most useful. As a consultant, I
> fill out timesheets on an Excel sheet and submit it via email.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hal Goldstein mailto:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 10:39 AM
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject: HPLX-L Windows 3 on palmtop
> >
> >
> > After almost 6 months of trying to get permission from
> > Microsoft to sell
> > Windows 3, Excel, and Word, we have made some progress -- sort of.
> >
> > It seems that Excel and Word are what slowed things down.  I think we
> > will be able to sell Windows 3 for the Palmtop, but not Excel or Word.
> >
> > My question is this. Should we?  Does anyone on the list regularly use
> > Windows 3 on their palmtop?  The reason why we wanted Win 3 was that
> > Excel and Word users could exchange data back and forth.  However, now
> > it seems we can't legally make Win 3 versions of Excel and Word
> > available.
> >
> > Are there other Win 3 freeware/shareware apps and games that
> > people use?
> > Should we make it available for the novelty of it? How stable is Win 3
> > on the Palmtop?
> >
> > Another problem is that we likely will not be able distribute
> > and Win 3
> > documentation other than our own.
> >
> > Your feedback will help determine whether we should offer it as a
> > product. If we did, we would try to make installation and getting
> > started as easy as possible.
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setup card not operational.
Literally as new, with books $150
Please email direct ONLY.
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It is now available for download from minix.hplx.net as minix.zip

Cheers,
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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:11:47 -0700
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Dave,

> thanks all for helping me with this.  i am now 75% computing
> by hp200 and 100% email.  gosh, i love this machine!

Hey, it is an obsolete and dead machine! Did you notice? :)

  Avi M. D&A

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Rian,

> Do you need more people for beta testing and what are the
> requirements for being a beta team member?

Thank you for the offer. We will contact you if there is a
need for more testers.

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Phil,

> Good luck getting Trans Digital to produce anything for the TransPC card.
> Jersey<sp?> is the guy I have talked to, and while a nice guy and eager to
> be helpful, I don't believe Trans Digital has the personnel to make
> additions/changes to the software related to the TransPC card.  I think they
> bought it from someone and are only a product provider, not the actual
> developer(s) of the product.

I met Jerzy and I think he is the engineering behind the
card. As to whether they can and want to produce more and
other stuff, I have no idea.

> use the config.sys level support for the Zip drive.  After several weeks of
> "I'll see what I can do, I'm quite busy." I gave up.

I know they are a small vendor, and I know they have some
large stuff going on with large customers, so it is very
possible they are up to their ears in alligators! :)

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:44:04 -0400
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On 04-05 10:38am, you wrote

> >> Do you know why there is no dos version that would run on the 200LX?
>
> Many things on the CD-Infobase are accessible with DOS. E.g. all the
> share/free ware files, PC In Your Pocket, the Guttenburg collection. The
> items that rely on the HyperReader software can be exported as text files
> which can then be moved to the LX.
>

How can the exporting to text be done? Just wondering.

Domingo
Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.24) EVALUATION

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:34:06 -0400
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I must comment in support of D&A, Thaddeus, 1SPS and all other providers =
of
products and services for the HP200LX.  Now in my 50's, I have come
to fully appreciate value over price.  I learned the hard way.  I learned
that there were always better, cheaper, slicker, neater applications from
people more willing to sell "promise" over the hard work of value delivery=
.
When the technology underpinnings shifted, these were the first people to
abandon an "old" platform and leave their customers to fend for themselves=
.
These were the "flash & dash" people.

With the HP200/100/95 palmtop computers, we enjoy a fine machines which =
are
well suited to a wide range of important tasks.  But we all know that the
current darling of the palmtop world is WinCE, so the flash and dash
people have moved there .... thankfully.

We HP200/100/95 users hold a rare jewel in computing technology: a long
living and supported platform with good and smart minds still caring to =
make
it better.  This is a relationship to be CHERISHED and celebrated as long
as possible.

Much more valuable than the previous posts about price savings are the =
needs
for vibrance and enthusiasm in the community of HP200/100/95 customers =
and
suppliers.

To those who complain about the margins needed to sustain suppliers of
HP200/100/95 products and services, try to "walk a mile in their
shoes".  Write your own code, do your own product compatibility research,
open up your own customer support line.  See how much net profit YOU make
before you dare accuse one of our long serving suppliers of price gouging|

Just be thankful we have talented people who care to devote their
energy to us users.  Time is life's ultimate $luxury$.  We all start life
endowed with a "fortune of time".  Great wealth cannot buy more, and time =
can
only be spent.  Please be glad these people spend some of their "fortunes"=

on us.

        Bob Pigford

> The other thing that really annoys me on that list is the attitude of
> "commercial developers only want profit and try to steal our money".
> Frankly, I don't think that any of the existing companies that support
> the 200LX would still exist if it were for profit. Companies like
> Thaddeus, 1SPS, or D&A are driven by enthusiasm for a great platform.
> So I will not participate in any discussions regarding prices. At best,
> they will chase me away from that list again.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:50:39 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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>I have a 2MB HP200LX.

>Questions:
>1.  Is there anything I can do to "speed up" the file saving (short of
>purchasing a "double speed" unit?


Hi Les & List

Are you using Turbocpu?

It is a TSR that I use on my vanilla 2MB model to speed it up from 4.77 Mhz
to about 6.5 Mhz.  There is a faster option that takes it to about 8.5 but
the screen flickers.

I believe this is available on SUPER as Turbo.zip

There is also fast DB you might try.  45 secs seems AWFULLY long.  Are you
saving to Flash card or C:?

Regards

Russell

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:12:18 -0700
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Tomas,

> Running MICQ with WWW/LX connected gives me:
> NO PACKET DRIVER FOUND

They do not know how to talk to WWW.EXE.

  Avi M. D&A

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Chris,

> > I am running a ICQ clone on my hp and that is aok.
> > But I would like to use WWW/LX instead of EPPPD.
> > Am I confused?
>
> I believe so.  Not being familiar with ICQ, I checked this web
> site you gave and found it to be a chat client.  WWW/LX is a
> stand-alone internet package that has its own low-level drivers.
> I don't remember seeing a WWW/LX chat package....  But certainly
> you won't be able to run any WWW/LX program with the EPPPD setup.

Correct. We do not have a CHAT client. It was looked at and
we felt it was a lot of work, and that we could not
recapture the expense of it. So we did not develop it. We
use our own protocol to "talk" between WWW.EXE server and
WWW/LX clients.

  Avi M. D&A

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>From: phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM (Phil Drummond)
>And by the way, organization is misspelled in your footer.

I believe it is correct for UK English (vs. US English).

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-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook


>>I have a 2MB HP200LX.
>
<snip>
Are you using Turbocpu?
>
>It is a TSR that I use on my vanilla 2MB model to speed it up from 4.77 Mhz
>to about 6.5 Mhz.  There is a faster option that takes it to about 8.5 but
>the screen flickers.

Am i missing something here?  I thought the HP200lx CPU already ran at
7.14mhz and
the double speed upgrade takes them to something approaching 16mhz.  Would
this app
be of help on a 100/200lx system?

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:57:56 -0500
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I'm not using any Turbo software
>
>I believe this is available on SUPER as Turbo.zip
>
>Are you saving to Flash card or C:?
Saving to a Flash Card.

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Vempire wrote:

>
> PS: But it really was AMAZING seeing Windows 3.0 booting up with all the
> tiny icons, the program manager,... :)

I seem to install everything I can get my hands on just to see if I can get it
running on my Hp 200 lx...I got Windows 3.0 running too. Just for the hell of
it...can not use it for much..just for showing off I guess...

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On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> Correct. We do not have a CHAT client. It was looked at and
> we felt it was a lot of work, and that we could not
> recapture the expense of it. So we did not develop it. We

It sure would be nice (hint, hint, hint) to have a IRC client that was a
PAL application for use on the LX. I use ircII a lot but a PAL
application sure would be slick!

73 Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:30:02 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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>Am i missing something here?  I thought the HP200lx CPU already ran at
>7.14mhz and
>the double speed upgrade takes them to something approaching 16mhz.  Would
>this app
>be of help on a 100/200lx system?

Hi Dan & list

The turbo software will not run on a DS LX.

I made a small error reporting speed as the speed testing software I have
compares to an AT.

FYI The speed test software I am using is

Landmark CPU speed test version 0.99 Copyright 1986.

Speeds reported

Vanilla 2MB on AC  Running like an AT @4.3Mhz  =2.4x  Performance Relative
to a 4.77 XT

Turbocpu installed                    @6.5Mhz  =3.7x

Maxcpu takes it to around              7.5

My DS 200lx tests at                   8.7     =5.2x a normal XT @4.77

I trust this is of interest

Russell

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:14:12 -0400
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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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>>Are you saving to Flash card or C:?
>Saving to a Flash Card.


I have a PNY 8 MB Flash card, and storing my Phonebook database on it is
painfully slow.  I force myself to keep enough room on C: to store it there.

Sean

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I thought I'd contribute to the HP case discussion.

I wanted a case to help protect my HP200LX from crushing.

For several years I used a soft leather zippered case from EduCalc which I
placed inside a hard Rubbermade serving container, 1.5 pint size, #3865.

Recently I switched to a rigid steel clamshell-type CD case (made by
cdProjects, believe it's model SCR22, phone 800-676-8634).  I made minor
modifications (removed inside plastic and fasteners, siliconed foam
padding).  Now I could accidently step on it and it would be protected!

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at ftp://ftp.corel.com/pub/WordPerfect/old_wp_products/
lots of databases for DataPerfect, etc.  Pretty cool.

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Thanks, Hal, for your reply.  I appreciate the honest and
straightforward way in which you answered, and that you didn't take
anything personally or get defensive.

I understand and, as soon as my gadget budget improves, I'll be calling
you! <g>
Long live Thaddeus Computing!

Regards,
Richard Smith


Hal Goldstein wrote:

> <<Hal, if you're here, would you care to comment (maybe explain your
> pricing
> strategy)?
>
> Richard Smith>>
>
> Richard, I did reply on this thread.  Hope your gadget budget
> increases<g>.
>
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OK,
I'm not sure what a fair price would be. What sounds fair to you?
Where are you located? (I am in Ohio)
How do you want to handle shipping? (the whole package probably weighs 6 lbs.)

BTW, I also have a complete copy of Lotus Symphony if that might interest you as well.

Let me know how you want to proceed.

Rich

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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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> WA 1 boots up and gives me the topcard, I press ctrl-4 and go to the =
DOS
> 4 work area.  From here, the machine usually locks up within a matter
> of a few seconds.  Usually just at the command prompt, though sometimes
> not until I run a program (the Q editor I used a lot for my testing).
> But... with the LXCIC command removed, I couldn't get it to lock.

I could verify this. Same happens on my machine if I use your
setup. However it only happens, if you load LXCIC prior to
Sysmgr in the Sysmgr WA. It does not happen, if you load LXCIC
in any other WA and indeed it does not happen, if you load
LXCIC prior to SC in your autoexec.bat.

It also does not happen if you don't use SC and load LXCIC
before you start Sysmgr.

What puzzles me most, is that with your setup, the machine
locks after switching to the DOS WA, which has not LXCIC
loaded, but works ok in the Sysmgr WA. From my understanding,
the DOS WA should not be affected by any TSRs exclusively
loaded in other WAs.

Summary: There is a conflict if you load in this order:

CAROUSEL
LXCIC
200

I have no idea, what goes wrong, but as I pointed out before,
you can bypass this problem by putting LXCIC in your
autoexec.bat or in another WA.


> (b) SC seems to invoke some sort of minimal command history, similar to =
a
> dumb DOSKEY.  I noticed that the UP/DOWN arrows scroll through the =
command
> history, even though I didn't load any such TSRs.... where is this =
function
> coming from?  Built in to SC?

yes, it's built in, but not as powerful as DOSKEY

> (c) I can't seem to kill a work area that is just running at the DOS =
prompt.
> The SCMENU program reports that no programs are running in the Work =
Area!
> And yet I know that COMMAND.COM is running...

why do you want to kill a WA which has nothing running
except COMMAND.COM? Killing COMMAND.COM would leave the WA
completely unusable.

> (d) Where does the "DOS Work Area ##" prompt come from when you start a =
WA
> without any batch file?  My normal batch files immediately reset the =
PROMPT,
> but this appears to be another internal thing that SC does.  I haven't =
found
> a way to turn this off or change the default prompt.

It comes from your SC WA setup. I don't think you can remove
it. It is not the prompt, but one line ahead of the prompt.
I personally find it very useful, because I always know in
which WA I am.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:09:40 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

> Is it possible to use internet with 200 lx???

Sure. It is possible.
The best solution for that I think is D&A's
'WWW/LX'.
I don't know what exactly you want to do.
If you _only_ want to make your email you may
have a look on Steve Lawson's 'Goin' Postal'.
If you want to browse through the web, read
newsgroups _and_ do your email with the palmtop,
'WWW/LX' is the better choice.
(that's MY opinion! Others may have another!).
There are also other programs like 'Nettamer',
'LXtCP' end maybe more.. (Only to have mentioned them!).

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 02:33:26 -0500
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-----Original Message-----
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Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook


>Dan,
<snip previous comments>

>Your alergies are affecting someone else! :) ...

I hope not, I wouldnt wish this on anyone.  Im up now as I can't sleep.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com


>

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 00:15:35 -0700
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> > Correct. We do not have a CHAT client. It was looked at and
> > we felt it was a lot of work, and that we could not
> > recapture the expense of it. So we did not develop it. We
>
> It sure would be nice (hint, hint, hint) to have a IRC client that was a
> PAL application for use on the LX. I use ircII a lot but a PAL
> application sure would be slick!

I am sure this will look familiar - :) ...

It was looked at and we felt it was a lot of work, and
that we could not recapture the expense of it. So we did
not develop it.

Slick is good. But when I have to pay people to support
slick which I sold for $2.99 or less, I think I'll pass! :)
I am sure you see the point. I suspect I would be tarred
and feathered by our bargain hunters here if an IRC client
was offered at $35 or $50 a pop. But before you all jump
down my throat, you must first "walk a mile in my shoes" as
was wiasely suggested by someone here. I suggested before
that we can probably cooperate with someone who would step
up to the plate with a serious plan, but no one did.

  Avi M. D&A

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Dan,

> >It is a TSR that I use on my vanilla 2MB model to speed it up from 4.77 Mhz
> >to about 6.5 Mhz.  There is a faster option that takes it to about 8.5 but
> >the screen flickers.
>
> Am i missing something here?  I thought the HP200lx CPU already ran at
> 7.14mhz and
> the double speed upgrade takes them to something approaching 16mhz.  Would
> this app
> be of help on a 100/200lx system?

Your alergies are affecting someone else! :) ...

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:06:25 +0100
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> But certainly
> you won't be able to run any WWW/LX program with the EPPPD setup.

Actually, you can run any WWW/LX program with EPPD: just configure
WWW/LX to use Ethernet. It will then use the packed driver interface
that EPPPD provides. It just makes no sense because all that is in
EPPPD is already implemented in WWW/LX, so you would just "outsource"
the PPP code and the dialing stuff.

Andreas

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:06:26 +0100
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> It sure would be nice (hint, hint, hint) to have a IRC client that was a
> PAL application for use on the LX.

Apart from being nice, would it be useful? I highly doubt that anybody
would want to pay for a chat client, so somebody would have to write it
as freeware. I am not interested in a chat client at all (my opinion:
there are better ways to waste my time) so somebody else would have to
implement it. If there is anybody who wants to do it: I gladly provide
help and the API specs.

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> Running MICQ with WWW/LX connected gives me:
> NO PACKET DRIVER FOUND

That program seems to require a packed driver interface (the driver
used for Ethernet and other cards). WWW/LX implementes a complete
TCP/IP stack and provides an application interface at a higher level.
But that interface is not supported by your program. Unfortunately,
unlike on other platforms, there is no standard API (application
program interface) for TCP/IP on DOS. Therefore, applications are not
interchangable.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:06:27 +0100
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> There are NO ISP's in Shanghai that will work with the
> HP200/LX.
>
> There are, of course, ISP's, but only for full desktops

What is the difference of an ISP "for desktops" and an ISP "for
palmtops"? I fail to understand.

Andreas

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 02:48:39 -0400
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>> And by the way, organization is misspelled in your footer.
>>
>Not if he is British !!!!
>
>Gee, anal today, are we???
>
>john
>
>> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Fowler SMTP:johnfIMS.COM
>
>> > the organisation the views in this message are therefore not
necessarily

No, it is spelled wrong (but it would be correct in Danish): =

"organization" is right in both countries.

Jorgen
(Dane living in the UK)
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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:36:25 +0200
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Gee, the Jefferson County Sheriffs are pretty harsh - arresting Mack just for
running Minix on his LX.  Now if it had been WinCE we would understand...
br
Jez

>> I was finally able to get MINIX going on the palmtop a few weeks ago and am
>> currently working with David Sargeant on finding a home for the rather large
>> zip file.

> I've seen it work and it's pretty cool <g>. Actually, the coolest thing was
> seeing Mack run Minix on the LX during a ride along with me in the patrol
> car :)

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:54:39 -0400
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              Eben Rubin <erubin@POL.NET>
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I have an "extra" new/unused 4MB plug-in memory module. It'll make a 6MB
unit out of a 2MB 200LX, or 5 MB from a 1MB unit. It plugs in with no
soldering right on to the mainboard, if your mainboard has the socket.

(Many do, I think particularly the newer ones, and I believe you can
tell without opening the machine by checking the serial #. For those
with boards that don't have the socket, it's available from several
shops who do HPLX work, and can be soldered in.)

The price is $75.

By the way, the reason the module is extra and unused is that my machine
didn't have the socket. I sent it to Mack to have the socket installed
(he did a very neat job), and because of a mixup, I wound up buying one
of his memory modules.
Eben

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:46:52 -0600
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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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I agree.  While running Windoze on the palmtop does have a substantial gee-whiz
/ wow factor, I don't see how it could really be useful on the palmtop; given
issues of disk space, RAM, speed, pointing devices, functionality, etc.
Although I've done it, once, I don't think I'd bother with it again.
HP and many of the other developers that have since contributed to the palmtop
have done such a good job with it that running Win 3.1 would only be a *giant*
step down.  It's do-able on the desktop, but a pain in the palm. <g>

Richard


Vempire wrote:

> So, to come to the point, I think it is fun, amazing, interesting and pretty
> useless to have Windows 3.0 installed, since most Windows programs won't run
> anyway (no memory, no disk drive, no mouse, only CGA, no sound, ...).
>
> Best regards,
> Vitor
>
> PS: But it really was AMAZING seeing Windows 3.0 booting up with all the
> tiny icons, the program manager,... :)

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:35:01 +0930
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Subject:      Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx

> > I am running a ICQ clone on my hp and that is aok.
> > But I would like to use WWW/LX instead of EPPPD.
>
> I don't remember seeing a WWW/LX chat package....  But certainly
> you won't be able to run any WWW/LX program with the EPPPD setup.

Or vice-versa.

EPPPD (which is used by LXTCP, Goin' Postal, and other WatTCP
utilities, is a standard packet driver (conforming to the specification
at http://www.crynwr.com/packet_driver.html).  WWW/LX uses a
proprietary interface between the WWW.EXE driver and the applications
that use it.  Obviously D&A can't release that specification, as it is
part of their commercial intellectual property.

I don't know of any way to have EPPD and WWW/LX operating at the same
time.  If anyone knows differently, please enlighten us :-)

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:00:00 -0600
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In case anybody is curious:

WordPerfect 5.1 is Y2K compliant, with minor issues (See the Web site).
It seems to be able to handle dates up to about 2079.  I think that this
attests to the quality and value that WordPerfect is/was, unlike that
'other major software company' that even releases *major operating
system* in *1995* that isn't Y2K compliant!
<stepping down from soap box> <g>

Hal: It would be great if you could get Corel to let you sell
WordPerfect 4.2/5.x, LetterPerfect, Works, etc.  I fully support that
idea!

Dave Sargeant: I still know some WPCorp programmers, I'll see if I can
find out if there's a way to re-map the keyboard.

I am not associated with WordPerfect or Corel Corporation (anymore),
just a very happy and satisfied user/customer/former employee.

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mihlo wrote:
>
> Make proposition, 1 or 2 or 4 mo............
>
> PLease!       :)
>
> a+
>

I HAVE A 4-5MB HP200LX WILL SELL
GET BACK TO ME SOON AS YOU CAN.
                     Bob1

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:40:20 -0500
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On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:36:25 +0200, Jez Cunningham <Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR> wrote:

> Gee, the Jefferson County Sheriffs are pretty harsh

I thought everyone knew that Mack liked handcuffs <grin>?!? If had been
using CE, we would have had to taken out back and used our rubber hoses one
him.

73 Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:40:58 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> I could verify this. Same happens on my machine if I use your
> setup. However it only happens, if you load LXCIC prior to
> Sysmgr in the Sysmgr WA. It does not happen, if you load LXCIC
> in any other WA and indeed it does not happen, if you load
> LXCIC prior to SC in your autoexec.bat.

That's great!  I'm not going crazy!!!  Just my luck that the
one oddball configuration that causes a lock-up is the one I
happened to try out!  Anyway, now that you've confirmed this,
I'll accept it as a known bug and re-arrange my setup accordingly.

If you  come up with a possible solution, or just plain understanding
of the problem, please tell me.

> > (b) SC seems to invoke some sort of minimal command history, similar to a
> > dumb DOSKEY.  I noticed that the UP/DOWN arrows scroll through the command
> > history, even though I didn't load any such TSRs.... where is this function
> > coming from?  Built in to SC?
>
> yes, it's built in, but not as powerful as DOSKEY

Can this be disabled?  Or is there any harm in loading also DOSKEY
or a similar program?  I use CMDEDIT, and so far haven't seen any
conflicts.

> > (c) I can't seem to kill a work area that is just running at the DOS prompt.
> > The SCMENU program reports that no programs are running in the Work Area!
> > And yet I know that COMMAND.COM is running...
>
> why do you want to kill a WA which has nothing running
> except COMMAND.COM? Killing COMMAND.COM would leave the WA
> completely unusable.

That's the point of killing a WA.  For example, if I want to change
the startup batch file (DOS4.BAT in my previous example) and re-start
the work area, there has to be some way to kill it.  Right now, the
only way I could accomplish this is to re-boot the machine.  I
thought the purpose of the Kill WA function was just this.  But anyway,
I can't seem to get it to work, at least not with command.com.


Thanks for your assitance with my problem.  I was beginning to think
that something was wrong with my machine...

-Chris


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              Ian Melville <imelv@TSTT.NET.TT>
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Hal,

Your efforts in attempting to redistribute win3.0 have not gone unnoticed
and demonstrate your continued committment to the development of the lx
platform as a powerful, portable computing tool. Please allow me to share my
experiences with you...

About a year ago i did quite some searching for useful apps (shareware and
freeware) capable of running in real mode under win3.0 and came up empty i'm
afraid - even had a small but capable group from hplx-l involved in this
project. The apps we found all required standard or enhanced mode windows,
neither being capable on the 100/200lx.

Although win30 runs acceptably well on a speed-upgraded machine with a fast
disk (at least IMO) and a generous helping of EMS for good measure, the only
real reason i kept it was for excel 2.1. Even the early version of word that
runs in real mode (1.x) is slow and didn't prove of very much use to me
especially since i had suspected that printing would be a problem (and the
print preview was very sloooow and tedious to pan around in). Another
compelling reason for the o/s was the thought of using a full-blown fax
program like winfax but even the early version i found was nothing short of
frustrating since 'printing' to the winfax driver was *the* major stumbling
block.

Using win30 without excel or word would leave you practically with only the
bundled s/ware like 'write', 'terminal' (i did use this successfully) and
others like 'calculator' etc. all of which are perhaps better off relegated
by the lx's built in apps....

Regards,


Ian C. Melville
_______________________________________________________
FRONTLINE MARKETING AGENCIES
Trinidad, West Indies.
http://frontlines.hypermart.net  CORP@frontlines.hypermart.net


> Date:    Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:38:58 -0500
> From:    Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
> Subject: Windows 3 on palmtop
>
> After almost 6 months of trying to get permission from Microsoft to sell
> Windows 3, Excel, and Word, we have made some progress -- sort of.
>
> It seems that Excel and Word are what slowed things down.  I think we
> will be able to sell Windows 3 for the Palmtop, but not Excel or Word.
>
> My question is this. Should we?  Does anyone on the list regularly use
> Windows 3 on their palmtop?  The reason why we wanted Win 3 was that
> Excel and Word users could exchange data back and forth.  However, now
> it seems we can't legally make Win 3 versions of Excel and Word
> available.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:53:36 -0500
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A solution might be to use a web page, set up as a chat "client".  Then you
could open that URL with WWW/LX and chat via the page.  If I figure out how
to do this myself, I'll post something about it.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:11:36 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Hal: It would be great if you could get Corel to let you sell
WordPerfect 4.2/5.x, LetterPerfect, Works, etc.  I fully support that
idea!>>

I agree. However, the challenge would be to get anyone's attention.  The
volume of sales we could provide would not make it worth their time.
The only way would be to find someone sympathetic and enthusiastic about
keeping those products alive.  I've heard Corel is not doing well, so
that would add to the challenge.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:21:18 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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> A solution might be to use a web page, set up as a chat "client".  Then you
> could open that URL with WWW/LX and chat via the page.  If I figure out how
> to do this myself, I'll post something about it.

There once was a palmtop meeting in L.A. and at the same (real) time,
there was a meeting in Bern, Switzerland. Gilles Kohl set up a Web page
for chatting and we could chat with each other (wirelessly through GSM
on the Swiss side). Was very funny!

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:21:17 +0100
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> EPPPD (which is used by LXTCP, Goin' Postal, and other WatTCP
> utilities, is a standard packet driver (conforming to the specification
> at http://www.crynwr.com/packet_driver.html).  WWW/LX uses a
> proprietary interface between the WWW.EXE driver and the applications
> that use it.

This is not fully correct. WWW/LX also uses the specs at
http://www.crynwr.com/packet_driver.html if it wants to talk to a
packet driver, e.g. for an Ethernet card. But a packet driver does not
support IP nor TCP nor UDP nor ICMP nor... A packet driver just
supports the low level of talking to a packet oriented hardware. Thus,
when using a packet driver, all clients must have a TCP/IP
implementation *within* them. When using WWW/LX, the TCP/IP
implementation is within WWW.EXE and the clients talk with it using a
higher level view (they don't need to know about TCP/IP which is
underneath). This is similar to the socket interface in some UNIXes or
WinSock (as far as I know). But while sockets in UNIX have a defined
interface, there is no such thing under DOS and therefore there was no
standard that WWW/LX could use. We had to define our own API therefore.

>  Obviously D&A can't release that specification, as it is
> part of their commercial intellectual property.

Actually, we release it to people who tell us what they want to do with
it (so that they don't compete with our products and so that we are
informed about who uses it (support issues!)). If you want to develop
an IRC client for WWW/LX, we gladly provide you with the API specs.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:45:33 +0000
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Rian,

What kind of batteries are in the palmtop and at what voltage when to try =
to use the 14.4 card modem?  Alks need to be nearly new and aren't as =
good as hi capacity Ni Cads or Nimh.  Lithiums work good too.  All =
batteries need to be fresh or newly recharged to take the power hit.  =
=3DBob=3D

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> I must comment in support of D&A, Thaddeus, 1SPS and all other providers
> of
> products and services for the HP200LX.  Now in my 50's, I have come
> to fully appreciate value over price.  I learned the hard way.  I =
learned
> that there were always better, cheaper, slicker, neater applications =
from
> people more willing to sell "promise" over the hard work of value =
delivery
> .
> When the technology underpinnings shifted, these were the first people =
to
> abandon an "old" platform and leave their customers to fend for themselv=
es
> .
> These were the "flash & dash" people.
>
> With the HP200/100/95 palmtop computers, we enjoy a fine machines which
> are
> well suited to a wide range of important tasks.  But we all know that =
the
> current darling of the palmtop world is WinCE, so the flash and dash
> people have moved there .... thankfully.
>
> We HP200/100/95 users hold a rare jewel in computing technology: a long
> living and supported platform with good and smart minds still caring to
> make
> it better.  This is a relationship to be CHERISHED and celebrated as =
long
> as possible.
>
> Much more valuable than the previous posts about price savings are the
> needs
> for vibrance and enthusiasm in the community of HP200/100/95 customers
> and
> suppliers.
>
> To those who complain about the margins needed to sustain suppliers of
> HP200/100/95 products and services, try to "walk a mile in their
> shoes".  Write your own code, do your own product compatibility research=
,
> open up your own customer support line.  See how much net profit YOU =
make
> before you dare accuse one of our long serving suppliers of price =
gouging|
>
> Just be thankful we have talented people who care to devote their
> energy to us users.  Time is life's ultimate $luxury$.  We all start =
life
> endowed with a "fortune of time".  Great wealth cannot buy more, and =
time
> can
> only be spent.  Please be glad these people spend some of their "fortune=
s"
>
> on us.
>
>         Bob Pigford

Hear hear!!  You hit the nail on the head!  I usually try to keep quoting =
to a minimum, but in this case it all needs to be said again.  My feelings=
 exactly!  Thanks.    =3DBob=3D

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:06:51 -0700
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Last night I attended a focus group on palmtop/PDA/wireless connectivity.
At their request, I brought my devices with me.  There wound up being 10
people in our little group.  Unfortunately, I was the only one with a
200LX.  Fortunately, there was no one with a WinCE device (I would have
been required to "thrash" them otherwise... <grin>).  There was one fellow
with an old Zaurus, and everyone else used Palm IIIs or Palm Vs.

Interesting things: 1.  I was the last one to describe what I did with the
palmtop.  Most of the people said they managed contacts, appts, and got
email.  I said those things, but then added stuff like controlling servers
remotely, faxing, writing spreadsheets and graphing the results, solving
for variables in HPCALC, interfacing it with my LAN at home to get email
via ISDN... and more. All the Palm guys just sat there with their mouths
open.  I thought the Zaurus guy was gonna slide under the table.

2.  Each of us was asked to describe our "dream machine".  Surprising
enough to me, I wound up describing a 64MB 200LX.  The only addition I
can't obtain today is an IR link between the palmtop and my cellphone
(Andreas, I envy your cableless setup!).

3.  Even more surprising, all of the PalmPeople(tm) said that their
preferred method of entry would be a keyboard.  They wound up describing
devices similar to the 200LX, except they wanted a full GUI.

4.  WinCE was mentioned, and a majority of people had tried a WinCE
appliance.  All of them (including myself!) had said that no matter how
cool the device, if it ran WinCE, we wouldn't buy it.

5.  Last but definitely not least, there was a fellow there who was so
enamored with the 200LX he stopped me on the way out the door and grilled
me for over a half hour on the machine.  He wanted to know where he could
get one.  I gave him Thaddeus' name and URL... I said they were highly
recommended.  (No thanks necessary, Hal, just throw money.  <grin>).  I
even added him to my palmtop user group list... he'll get an invite to the
next meeting whenever I wind up holding it.

I was just glad to represent this particular segment of the market.  Maybe
whatever company who ordered the research into the market will wind up
making a box with as much versatility as the ol' 200LX.



Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN.  It's like riding a
rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway!

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Hello, all.

in a weeki am going tothe jungles of brazil on some
missionary work.  of course, this time i am more daring and
plan to take the hp200lx.  might even find a phone with
compuserve access.  my question is has anyone experience
withthe hp and warm humid environs for prolonged times (2
weeks).  i am worried about reliability....I at least have
lots of lithium cells to power it.  I also have a backup 200
at home just in case....

also, i have a pocketjet printer now and was wondering how it
fares in warmth and humidity.  i dont really have to take it
but it would be nice.  Iwas also wondering if anyone has the
power adapter or know of a source so that i can make a laerge
power pack as i wont have ac durring parts of thr trip.
and, if anyone has the quick refernce card, i could really
use a copy......

mucho

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:44:55 +0200
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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Dave,

> in a weeki am going tothe jungles of brazil...my question is has anyone experience
> withthe hp and warm humid environs for prolonged times (2
> weeks).

I spent 2 months in Brazil last year (Mata Atlantica) writing a long
report on my 200LX, printing all the draft with the pocketjet printer
on Fax paper, and exchanging files with my colleague via Travel Floppy
from Accurite.
All the equipment responded perfectly, it rather humid at the time.

> Iwas also wondering if anyone has the power adapter or know of a
> ource so that i can make a large power pack as i wont have ac ...

For the Pocketjet, you definitely need the adapter or a strong battery,
as the built-in battery lasts for only about 15-20 pages (it is marked
150mAh, 14,4 volts). A car battery might do, I have not tried it out,
though.

> and, if anyone has the quick reference card, i could really
> use a copy......

Where do you want me to send the copy ?

Regards
Winfried

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:53:28 -0500
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Im interested in the memory board. Is it still available?

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Eben Rubin <erubin@POL.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 7:19 AM
Subject: memory module


>I have an "extra" new/unused 4MB plug-in memory module. It'll make a 6MB
>unit out of a 2MB 200LX, or 5 MB from a 1MB unit. It plugs in with no
>soldering right on to the mainboard, if your mainboard has the socket.
>
>(Many do, I think particularly the newer ones, and I believe you can
>tell without opening the machine by checking the serial #. For those
>with boards that don't have the socket, it's available from several
>shops who do HPLX work, and can be soldered in.)
>
>The price is $75.
>
>By the way, the reason the module is extra and unused is that my machine
>didn't have the socket. I sent it to Mack to have the socket installed
>(he did a very neat job), and because of a mixup, I wound up buying one
>of his memory modules.
>Eben
>
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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:24:23 GMT
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Hi,

can anyone give me please the email address of the
person/company who/which sells Software Carousel?

Thanks
daniel

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Germany
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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:24:26 GMT
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Hi,

> Make proposition, 1 or 2 or 4 mo............

If you want to use a PCMCIA modem card to connect
to the internet with the HPLX, you should
take as much internal memory as possible, because
you cannot use the modem card and a memory card
at the same time.
If you will use no modem or an external one,
you will probably be pleased with a 2 MB 200LX,
because you can buy a flash card with capacities
of 1MB .. several 100 MB and store your works
on it.

GTX
daniel

P.S.: I have a 4MB 200LX and use a PCMCIA modem.
I wish I had more internal memory. But if I delete
_all_ not really needed stuff, 4MB is just enough

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Daniel Hertrich
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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:31:27 -0500
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http://www.thaddeus.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Hertrich SMTP:d.hertrich@GMX.DE
>
> can anyone give me please the email address of the
> person/company who/which sells Software Carousel?
>
> Thanks
> daniel
>

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Anyone in the group using Pegasus Mail on the 200LX?  I'm using
Pegasus (freeware) now on my desktop & laptop, and think it would be
marginally better to use it on the palmtop in order to ease the
transfer of mail between palmtop & desktop.  From preliminary rounds
on various web sites, it seems a bear to set up and run.

Also, can anyone compare the capabilities of Pegasus with the more
current programs for the HP such as Goin' Postal, WWW/LX, or
whatelse?

TIA


Stephen Ward
sward@flash.net

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On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:31:36 +0200, Rian Maartens <maartens@IAFRICA.COM> =
wrote:

ma> Does anyone use the HP's battery power when they connect with
ma> Creative Labs' 14.4 PCMCIA Modem Blaster? How long can you
ma> stay connected?

I have been using this modem on a DS 200lx for about nine months with
no problems. I got about an hour on standard alkalines when I was
playing....er...testing it. I now use NIMHs and adapter most of the
time, but do occasional battery mail runs with no problems. Your
experience sounds out of the ordinary. Do you have short battery life
without the modem?

P

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On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:34:06 -0400, Bob Pigford <profengr@DELANET.COM> =
wrote:

prOn Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:34:06 -0400, Bob Pigford <profengr@DELANET.COM> =
wrote:

pr> I must comment in support of D&A, Thaddeus, 1SPS and all other =
providers of
pr> products and services for the HP200LX.

Hear Hear.
I have been doing long range business with Thaddeus, D&A etc for over
two years and the level of expertise, support and WILLINGNESS to help
has been a source of pleasure. Go ahead and write Bill Gate$ about
a setup problem with IE and see if you get a reply, much less a
helpful reply. For myself, I love being able to talk directly with the
folks who wrote the programs I use and a very knowledgable community of
users when the need arises. Granted, I would love to save money, but
given the alternative.................

P
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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:11:28 -0400
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: HP to the jungle and pocketjet info

 > in a weeki am going tothe jungles of brazil...my question is has anyone experience
 > withthe hp and warm humid environs for prolonged times (2
 > weeks).
>
 > Iwas also wondering if anyone has the power adapter or know of a
 > ource so that i can make a large power pack as i wont have ac ...
>

If you are going to be away from AC power for months you could
recharge your batteries using a solar panel. It would cost about 200
dollars for a panel which would recharge the batteries of both the
printer and palmtop in a couple hours. The only thing is if you are
going to be under the canopy in
the rain forest I don't know how much sunlight you will have.
Normally in the Brazilian lattitude you average about 5-8 hours of
sunlight a day.  If you want to check out solar panels you can look
at www.jademountain.com. You could also make a battery pack for the
palmtop using d cell batteries. Using 8 d cells should give you at
least 160 hours of use.





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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:11:46 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<can anyone give me please the email address of the
person/company who/which sells Software Carousel?>>

We do. Check out www.palmtoppaper.com or email orders@thaddeus.com.  It
is $79.95 plus $12 to ship to Germany.

Hal Goldstein
President
Thaddeus Computing
Publisher
HANDHELD PC MAGAZINE FOR USERS OF WINDOWS CE, THE HP PALMTOP PAPER
110 North Court St.
Fairfield, IA 52556
800 373 6114 or 515 472 6330
fax: 515 472 1879
hal@thaddeus.com or CompuServe: 75300,2443
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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:29:52 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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Didn't I read here one time that there is a way to set a system
password on the 200LX? How do you do that?

TIA,
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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:21:18 -0700
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Subject:      Agenda and HP LX File transfer
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Has anyone used Perl and/or the Def files to transfer information between
Lotus Agenda and the HP ??LX?  Primarily, I would be interested in going
from Agenda to the LX, but going the other way could have it's advantages
also.


tia,

Claud

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:57:12 +0200
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From:         Rian Maartens <maartens@IAFRICA.COM>
Subject:      Re: Battery drain with Creative Labs 14.4 Modem
Comments: To: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Does anyone use the HP's battery power when they connect with
Creative Labs' 14.4 PCMCIA Modem Blaster? How long can you
stay connected?   I immediately get a low battery message
when I try to connect to the www without the AC adaptor
plugged in. >>

>>Which batteries to you use.  Non long-life Duracels and Rayovac's
typically don't do as well as Energizers.  Better are the lithium
energizers, or the new alkaline duracels and energizers designed for
electronic equipment.>>

I use the Duracell Alkaline MN1500 batteries.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:30:50 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fluff: WP 5.1 and Y2K

I probably don't know what I'm talking about here but that seldom stops
me.

I contacted Corel several months ago about getting a license for WP5.1.
I wanted to know their opinion on my purchasing a copy of the latest
version and then using that license to legitimize my use of a "bootleg"
copy of WP5.1.

They told me not to bother; they said WP5.1 is still in the sales pool.
It is at the full price as newer, Windows versions.  Both sales
representatives said they still recieve quite a few orders for it and
most are corporate so they're pretty large.  I confirmed this through a
hardware/software provider who services our office.

It seems to me getting the rights to sell WP5.1 (still on the market)
would be far more difficult than securing the rights to Windows 3.0 (long
dead).  Also, the same issues that prompted Microsoft to exclude Word and
Excel may prompt Corel to feel the same about their far superior product.

Just some pessimistic thoughts.

Larry Zimmerman

PS - If you really want a copy of WP5.1 but don't want to pay new $ for
it, hang out on Ebay.  I got the disks (which I then lost) for $15.  Our
local state surplus store also has older PCs for sale $50-100 that have
WP5.1 loaded on them as well.


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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:00:50 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Larry N Zimmerman wrote:

> They told me not to bother; they said WP5.1 is still in the sales
> pool. It is at the full price as newer, Windows versions.  Both sales
> representatives said they still recieve quite a few orders for it and
> most are corporate so they're pretty large.  I confirmed this through
> a hardware/software provider who services our office.

If I recall, they also recently came out with WordPerfect 5.1+, which
is... well, I'm not exactly sure what the + signifies, but it's being sold
even in local retail stores.  Does anybody know what new features (if any)
are included in WP51+, and if it will run on the 200LX?

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:08:01 -0700
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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From:         Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
Subject:      Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx
Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET
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So Avi, how about asking the people on the list if they would be willing to
pay for an IRC client (or any other client), and how much? This way you
would get the general idea and be able to make a more informed decision.

Philippe :)

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From: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx


> > > Correct. We do not have a CHAT client. It was looked at and
> > > we felt it was a lot of work, and that we could not
> > > recapture the expense of it. So we did not develop it. We
> >
> > It sure would be nice (hint, hint, hint) to have a IRC client that was a
> > PAL application for use on the LX. I use ircII a lot but a PAL
> > application sure would be slick!
>
> I am sure this will look familiar - :) ...
>
> It was looked at and we felt it was a lot of work, and
> that we could not recapture the expense of it. So we did
> not develop it.
>
> Slick is good. But when I have to pay people to support
> slick which I sold for $2.99 or less, I think I'll pass! :)
> I am sure you see the point. I suspect I would be tarred
> and feathered by our bargain hunters here if an IRC client
> was offered at $35 or $50 a pop. But before you all jump
> down my throat, you must first "walk a mile in my shoes" as
> was wiasely suggested by someone here. I suggested before
> that we can probably cooperate with someone who would step
> up to the plate with a serious plan, but no one did.
>
>   Avi M. D&A
>
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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:14:41 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<PS - If you really want a copy of WP5.1 but don't want to pay new $
for
it, hang out on Ebay.  I got the disks (which I then lost) for $15.  Our
local state surplus store also has older PCs for sale $50-100 that have
WP5.1 loaded on them as well.>>


That means the cheapest way to buy WordPerfect is buy a PC <g>.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:28:59 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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From:         David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Re: Agenda and HP LX File transfer
Comments: To: "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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I got a copy of Lotus Organizer on a recent freebie-CD and wrote
a simple Perl file so that I could download from my 200 into
it. It was simple and worked ok, but I didn't end up liking
Organizer much (It was free, and worth less than it cost) so I
pretty much abandoned the line.

The problem were principally in that I couldn't get Organizer to let
me manage the `events' (essentially by downloading them from the 200)
while it managed other things. So after screwing around for a couple
of days I gave up...

I can say that it's pretty straightforward, though. You won't have
much trouble...

Claud G. Cameron wrote:
>
> Has anyone used Perl and/or the Def files to transfer information between
> Lotus Agenda and the HP ??LX?  Primarily, I would be interested in going
> from Agenda to the LX, but going the other way could have it's advantages
> also.
>
> tia,
>
> Claud
>

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:26:43 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Loading databases from icons
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Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

I'm pretty certain this question has come up before, but since I can't
seem to find it...

Is there a way to set up an Appman-like menu, in SysMan (perhaps using
MoreEXM and SMMX) with icons for each of my particular databases so that I
can move to the one I want to open, press enter, and have it open up in
the database app?  I can do it with X-Finder, but I'd rather not have to
scroll through all the files-- I want to set up particular icons.

It would be even better if the menu itself was password protected.  That
way, I could set up icons for each of my protected atabases and have it
automatically enter the password for me when it opened them...

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:34:37 -0700
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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From:         "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Agenda and HP LX File transfer
Comments: To: David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>, pimlist@onelist.com
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Actually, I don't want to go back and forth between the 'LX and Lotus
Organizer.  I want to go back and forth between Lotus Agenda and the 'LX,
more or less to use the 'LX to notify me of meetings via the Appointment
Book (and to a lesser extent, input meetings into the Appointment Book on
the 'LX and transfer them into Agenda).

At 05:28 PM 4/7/99 -0400, you wrote:
>I got a copy of Lotus Organizer on a recent freebie-CD and wrote
>a simple Perl file so that I could download from my 200 into
>it. It was simple and worked ok, but I didn't end up liking
>Organizer much (It was free, and worth less than it cost) so I
>pretty much abandoned the line.
>
>The problem were principally in that I couldn't get Organizer to let
>me manage the `events' (essentially by downloading them from the 200)
>while it managed other things. So after screwing around for a couple
>of days I gave up...
>
>I can say that it's pretty straightforward, though. You won't have
>much trouble...
>
>Claud G. Cameron wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone used Perl and/or the Def files to transfer information between
>> Lotus Agenda and the HP ??LX?  Primarily, I would be interested in going
>> from Agenda to the LX, but going the other way could have it's advantages
>> also.
>>
>> tia,
>>
>> Claud
>>
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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:42:20 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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From:         Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
Subject:      Re: Fluff: WP 5.1 and Y2K
Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>

If I remember correctly there was an upgrade to existing WP users, later
sold as 5.1+, called Screen Extender. This was a WYSIWYG, edit mode,
graphics driver to overcome the limitations of the 80 col character screen.
I remember it costing about USD 100 here in Norway. We contemplated buying
it, but went the Windows Word way...

I'm not quite sure on this one, but was it VGA only?


Have a nice day!

Franklin

Libretto 50CT + Nokia 2110. SMS/voice: 917 51641.


>even in local retail stores.  Does anybody know what new features (if any)
>are included in WP51+, and if it will run on the 200LX?

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:09:57 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              systemsconsulting@CSI.COM
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From:         Systems Consulting <systemsconsulting@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fluff: WP 5.1 and Y2K
Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.4.05.9904071358540.29524-100000@home.hplx.net>
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WordPerfect 5.1+ adds:

(according to the box)
Additional power to:

- retrieve WP6.0 documents into WP5.1+
- save a WP5.1+ file in WP6.0 format
- send faxes directly from WP5.1+ (not receive)
(FAXBIOS, Class 1, Class 2, or CAS - Communications Application
Specification Driver required)
- send documents through email from WP5.1+

also includes special editions of:

- Stairway Software's ScreenExtender for WP5.1+ (WYSIWYG)
  (Works with SVGA, Gas Plasma, Hercules, EGA, VGA, CGA)
- Bitstream FaceLift (font support and creation)

The space requirements are large for the additional support and do not have
to be installed.

Recommended System Requirements -
286 pc or better
450K free conventional memory
DOS 3.1 or higher
Hard Disk with 5mb of free disk space


The WP5.1+ package can be installed to be virtually the same as WP5.1 All
additional features are optional

There are some minor enhancements that are an inherent part of the product -
it was a small upgrade to the basic WP5.1


Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
Maximizing the results of Information Systems

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> mailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of David Sargeant
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 5:01 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Fluff: WP 5.1 and Y2K
>
> If I recall, they also recently came out with WordPerfect 5.1+, which
> is... well, I'm not exactly sure what the + signifies, but it's being sold
> even in local retail stores.  Does anybody know what new features (if any)
> are included in WP51+, and if it will run on the 200LX?

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:10:08 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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From:         Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Win 3.0 on Palmtop
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I was looking for old copies of Word that would run on the Palmtop under
Win3.0 and found a site that has lots of old software : =

www.voicenet.com/~generic/  =


I also ran across a text document about Word 1 or 2 that claimed that it
was not Y2K compliant. The writer stated that trying to save a large file=

with a date >2000 corrupted his hard disk.  Can anyone confirm or deny
this? I know that's asking a lot but I don't have an early version of Wor=
d
or I'd do it myself. =


.ed.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:17:12 -0400
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              Patrick McGouirk <rivrwolf@HOM.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Fluff: WP 5.1 and Y2K
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There is another alternative to paying full price for WP5.1 that I
discovered last year - the academic version of WP5.1+. It does not include
Manuals, ScreenExtender, and MergeMaster, but otherwise is a full version of
the 5.1 we all know and love. I'm not sure of the cost, but the Authorized
Corel Reseller I got my copy from charged me $26.

As for eligibility to buy academic software, Corel's policy is pretty loose
and most everyone will find they can meet the requirements.

Here's the web link for those interested.

http://www.corel.com/cgi-bin/redir.exe?Target=%2Facademic%2Fproducts%2Fcwp51
dos.htm&x=13&y=8

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:35:00 -0400
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              systemsconsulting@CSI.COM
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From:         Systems Consulting <systemsconsulting@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook(CPU Speed)
Comments: To: Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
In-Reply-To:  <1288677494-46866042@talent.com.au>
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FYI

Using Landmark 2.00 (1990)
My DS 200LX shows a cpu of 80186/80188
with a clock of 11.913 MHz
like a 9 MHz AT (scales shows 9.12 MHz)
Video shows 2715 chr/ms




Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
Maximizing the results of Information Systems

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> mailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of Russell Hemery
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 8:30 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook
>
>
> >Am i missing something here?  I thought the HP200lx CPU already ran at
> >7.14mhz and
> >the double speed upgrade takes them to something approaching
> 16mhz.  Would
> >this app
> >be of help on a 100/200lx system?
>
> Hi Dan & list
>
> The turbo software will not run on a DS LX.
>
> I made a small error reporting speed as the speed testing software I have
> compares to an AT.
>
> FYI The speed test software I am using is
>
> Landmark CPU speed test version 0.99 Copyright 1986.
>
> Speeds reported
>
> Vanilla 2MB on AC  Running like an AT @4.3Mhz  =2.4x  Performance Relative
> to a 4.77 XT
>
> Turbocpu installed                    @6.5Mhz  =3.7x
>
> Maxcpu takes it to around              7.5
>
> My DS 200lx tests at                   8.7     =5.2x a normal XT @4.77
>
> I trust this is of interest
>
> Russell
>
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> Phil Drummond wrote:
> > And by the way, organization is misspelled in your footer.
> Not if he is British !!!!
> Gee, anal today, are we???

Example of flame war for the person who was asking about it.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:55:32 -0700
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Where's the Landmark benchmark program?

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Systems Consulting <systemsconsulting@CSI.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook(CPU Speed)


> FYI
>
> Using Landmark 2.00 (1990)
> My DS 200LX shows a cpu of 80186/80188
> with a clock of 11.913 MHz
> like a 9 MHz AT (scales shows 9.12 MHz)
> Video shows 2715 chr/ms
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
> 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
> tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
> web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
> Maximizing the results of Information Systems
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > mailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of Russell Hemery
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 8:30 PM
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook
> >
> >
> > >Am i missing something here?  I thought the HP200lx CPU already ran at
> > >7.14mhz and
> > >the double speed upgrade takes them to something approaching
> > 16mhz.  Would
> > >this app
> > >be of help on a 100/200lx system?
> >
> > Hi Dan & list
> >
> > The turbo software will not run on a DS LX.
> >
> > I made a small error reporting speed as the speed testing software I
have
> > compares to an AT.
> >
> > FYI The speed test software I am using is
> >
> > Landmark CPU speed test version 0.99 Copyright 1986.
> >
> > Speeds reported
> >
> > Vanilla 2MB on AC  Running like an AT @4.3Mhz  =2.4x  Performance
Relative
> > to a 4.77 XT
> >
> > Turbocpu installed                    @6.5Mhz  =3.7x
> >
> > Maxcpu takes it to around              7.5
> >
> > My DS 200lx tests at                   8.7     =5.2x a normal XT @4.77
> >
> > I trust this is of interest
> >
> > Russell
> >
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I imagine it would be pretty tough to compete with that - buy
WordPerfect, get a PC free.

On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:14:41 -0500 Hal Goldstein
<hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> writes:
>>>Our local state surplus store also has older PCs for sale $50-100 that

>>>have WP5.1 loaded on them as well.
>
>
>That means the cheapest way to buy WordPerfect is buy a PC <g>.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:28:01 -0400
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Wed,  7 Apr 1999 19:16:09 -0500 (EST)

02h49m26s ago ...
On Wed,  7 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote:

> Is there a way to set up an Appman-like menu, in SysMan (perhaps using
> MoreEXM and SMMX) with icons for each of my particular databases so =
that I
> can move to the one I want to open, press enter, and have it open up in
> the database app?  I can do it with X-Finder, but I'd rather not have =
to
> scroll through all the files-- I want to set up particular icons.

Interesting you ask about that.  I just re-worked my finder.env and
tried doing this (from the /Palmtop screen).  Works perfectly.  You
need to have open.exe (from SUPER) in your path.  The line in my .env
that handles this is:

%d=09,u=09,open c:\_dat\bromel.gdb=09#bromel2=09Bromel DB

(The items are separated by hard tabs in my .env)  The name after the #
sign is the icon name (without extension) - here bromel2.icn

> It would be even better if the menu itself was password protected.  =
That
> way, I could set up icons for each of my protected atabases and have it
> automatically enter the password for me when it opened them...

Not sure if this is possible with X-Finder...  It does have a key stuff
capability, but I don't think it will work along with open.exe
Interesting idea though.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:26:17 -0400
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I have an Excel file. It is about 11,000 lines long and 2 columns wide. I want
to use it as a database type dictionary. It is approximately 650K now. If I
convert it to dBase format the file jumps to about 5 megs. If I convert it to
LOtus 123 format the file stays about the same (650K) but Lotus has a line
limit of about 8,192 lines. Is there any datebase program that will allow me
to import the file as a CSV file because that format also keeps the file at
about 650K. I was told that Paradox imports CSV format but it does not. Does
anyone have any suggestions?
TIA
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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:32:21 -0400
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Hi Rich
I'm in New York and I just need to know if Paradox will convert CSV format
because I need a DB that will for what I'm doing. If it does I will buy the
disks. I just tried a version that I pulled off my network at work and it
didn't seem to convert CSV.
Thanks
Tony

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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Pegasus email on the 200LX

Someone posted about using Pegasus for dos on the 200LX.
Was is successful? If so since Pegasus can be used as a
list server it might be possible to use it on the 200LX
as one. That would be kind of neat!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 5:14 PM
Subject: Win 3.0 on Palmtop


I was looking for old copies of Word that would run on the Palmtop under
Win3.0 and found a site that has lots of old software :
www.voicenet.com/~generic/

<snip>

Does anyone know where I can find a copy of Windows 3.0 either
electronically
for download, or on 3.5" disks.  Ive had Windows 1.03, 2, 3.0, 3.1, 3.11,
WinOS2,
Windows95, Win98 on my systems at one time or another so i think I have the
license covered by now, its just that Ive moved a few times since 3.0 was
around
and dread looking through years of packed up stuff for a set of disks. <g>
Although
im going to experiment with it on a 1000cx, Im really wanting to put it on a
SLT/286
that im trying to squeeze a bit of life out of.

Anyone have any ideas?

BTW: In my searching so far, Ive found my mint condition Windows v1.03 HD
1.2mb
diskettes if anyone knows anything they are good for (besides multitasking
clocks)

Thanks,

dan
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Buddy will open the gdb application when you select a db file.

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> I also ran across a text document about Word 1 or 2 that claimed that it
> was not Y2K compliant. The writer stated that trying to save a large file
>
> with a date >2000 corrupted his hard disk.  Can anyone confirm or deny
> this? I know that's asking a lot but I don't have an early version of Wor


Ms has a site which identifies y2k problems with older versions of their
products.  MS Word 5.0 (which I use on the desktop and the HP200) for
DOS also has a real problem supposedly.  And it may be similar - not
just a messed up date but at least a messed up file.  I don't recall if
there were also disk problems, too.

What I don't understand is why the code for a word processor would be so
critically tied to a date that it could create havoc rather than just
creating date related issues.

And, yes, I do understand other y2k problems.  I am probably one of
those at fault.  I was a cobol programmer with AT&T Long Lines in the
early 70's.  I remember well, my date PIC 99 clauses!!!  I even remember
asking about the future.  Storage and memory was too dear!!!!

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-----Original Message-----
From: F. Kaufman <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: Win 3.0 on Palmtop


<snip>
>
>What I don't understand is why the code for a word processor would be so
>critically tied to a date that it could create havoc rather than just
>creating date related issues.

Sounds strange to me too.  I can understand it in a database, payroll, etc
application but in a word processor.  Thats as bad as Tandy making their
old TRS-DOS application not accept dates greater than 2-3years after
release so they could force upgrades every few years.
>
>And, yes, I do understand other y2k problems.  I am probably one of
>those at fault.  I was a cobol programmer with AT&T Long Lines in the
>early 70's.  I remember well, my date PIC 99 clauses!!!  I even remember
>asking about the future.  Storage and memory was too dear!!!!

Ah. so your the one!   Actually i remember that as well, If 4 digit dates
were
used when I was in college and they were not critical to the application
they
would be counted as a waste and inefficient.  No foresight at all.  Well my
last DOS apps I developed used a julian that I know whill die a horrible
death
in the year 2079.  I figure that even if im around then (doubt it) they have
worse
problems if they are still using DOS in 2079!

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On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote:

> Sounds strange to me too.  I can understand it in a database, payroll,
> etc application but in a word processor.  Thats as bad as Tandy making
> their old TRS-DOS application not accept dates greater than 2-3years
> after release so they could force upgrades every few years.

I remember in Perfect Filer on my Kaypro II I would try to enter in
"4-1-1990" and it would tell me "Can't accept dates greater than
12/31/87."  It used to irritate me terribly...

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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:00:21 +1200
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              Daivd Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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> I have an Excel file. It is about 11,000 lines long and 2 columns wide. I
want
> to use it as a database type dictionary. It is approximately 650K now. If
I
> convert it to dBase format the file jumps to about 5 megs. If I convert
it to
> LOtus 123 format the file stays about the same (650K) but Lotus has a
line
> limit of about 8,192 lines. Is there any datebase program that will allow
me
> to import the file as a CSV file because that format also keeps the file
at
> about 650K. I was told that Paradox imports CSV format but it does not.
Does
> anyone have any suggestions?
> TIA
> Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:31:16 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx
Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>

Andreas Garzotto writes:
> This is not fully correct. WWW/LX also uses the specs at
> http://www.crynwr.com/packet_driver.html if it wants to talk to a
> packet driver, e.g. for an Ethernet card.

Wow!  This is something that I didn't know, and I congratulate you
guys for using the "defacto standard" where one exists.  My public
apologies if my post misrepresented what WWW/LX could do (due to my
own ignorance), and thanks for correcting me.

This may open up new possibilities for interopertation between the
multiple TCP/IP solutions available for the HP!  Andreas, are you
aware of the PKTMUX program, and do you know if WWW/LX in ethernet
mode will run on top of PKTMUX ?

I'm thinking that maybe we can use PKTMUX to have WWW/LX and LXTCP or
Goin' Postal or other WatTCP utilities working together - thereby
allowing people to use the existing WatTCP based IRC client, as well
as WWW/LX (obviously not at the same time, but certainly over the one
phone connection without having to redial).

If this was the case, then you might get a WWW/LX sale to the LXTCP
author :-)  I'd love to be able to use WWW/LX for web browsing, while
still retaining the capabilities that I absolutely need on a daily
basis to use my company firewall, and that only LXTCP provides.

> Actually, we release it to people who tell us what they want to do with
> it (so that they don't compete with our products and so that we are
> informed about who uses it (support issues!)).

A laudable way to run your business. Bravo.

I've been thinking lately about dropping LXTCP development, and taking
you up on the offer above.  I guess the sticking point is how much
other people use the source code that I write (which I presume I would
no longer be able to make public if it used the WWW/LX API).  If I'm
the only one who needs the source code (to make programs that suit my
requirements), then I might as well base new programs (which could still
be provided as freeware executables by D&A) on WWW/LX instead of
WatTCP, and help make that suite of programs more complete (i.e.
porting the NCSA FTP server to the WWW/LX API).

Does anyone else actually use the source code to LXTCP that I make
public ?

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:39:14 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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It would be useful if you could say a little more about what
you mean by `database type dictionary'.

What is it you want to do? Do you want to search for exact matches
or for `all' matches according to some criteria? Do you want to search
for `ranges' of data or just specific values.

The problem sounds quite `small' by most standards, and there should
be lots of (more or less appropriate, depending on your answers to the
above questions) possibilities.

aguze118 wrote:
>
> I have an Excel file. It is about 11,000 lines long and 2 columns wide. I want
> to use it as a database type dictionary. It is approximately 650K now.
...
<snip>

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:52:20 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:31:16 +0930, Rod Whitby <rwhitby@hplx.net> wrote:

> I'm thinking that maybe we can use PKTMUX to have WWW/LX and LXTCP or
> Goin' Postal or other WatTCP utilities working together - thereby
> allowing people to use the existing WatTCP based IRC client, as well
> as WWW/LX (obviously not at the same time, but certainly over the one
> phone connection without having to redial).

Rod, please, write us a good IRC client that will do DCC file transfers :) I
would be willing to pay for a decent chat program. I use IRC to keep up with
friends and family across the country and world. I currently use ircII from
my UNIX shell account, but it would awesome to have a nice program developed
for the LX that would run on a PPP connection. I used Voice, a DOS irc
program, but it can't do file transfers.

> Does anyone else actually use the source code to LXTCP that I make
> public ?

I have looked at it and played around with it just a little, but can't say
that I use it.

73 Jeff W4JEF

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Hello:

        I have a couple of questions for users of the Kodak DC20 and LXDC.
First will a 2xHP200 work with the DC20 and LXDC. My unit would not
comunicate with the DC20 at any erial port setting.

Second when I tried to connect with a 4mb 1x palmtop,  I found that it did
connect, that upon pressing F1, LXDC would display the version # 1.00 and
the Taken/Rest # of pictures. The Taken/rest # did correspond the # of
pictures on the DC20. However when I pressed F2 to look at the thumbnails,
I got a message "Can't open file" and nothing else. The DC20 is working
properly since ith will connect with the Kodak software on my notebook
and display all 8 images. Am I doing something stupid? Help!


Dave




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05h01m48s ....>> in the future <<....
On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, aguze118 wrote:

> I have an Excel file. It is about 11,000 lines long and 2 columns
> wide. I want  to use it as a database type dictionary...

How about converting it to a text file, formatting with tabs, then
viewing with Vern Buerg's LIST(or similar program) which has built in
string look-up cabability? That is the method I use for a database I
have with drug names & molecular weights. Text file should be smaller
too.

Cheers,

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As many of you may or may not know I use both Goin' Postal and WWW/LX on my
LX. I know that Goin' Postal has a hidden Easter Egg in it (anyone find it
yet?) and I think I just discovered one in WWW/LX. If it is do I win a prize
Andreas :)? Here's what I discovered, it's new to me, maybe someone else has
seen it:

I left the main screen by using <ctrl><x> then hit <v> for HV with no
disconnect. This brought me to the HV screen that displays whatever data may
be in the post.tmp file. Here's the cool thing that I found. The
data/message that was displayed happened to be a post I had written to a
newsgroup on my ISP's local server. In this message I had used a smiley
towit :) Well.... the smiley was actually displayed as a little round
smiling face! At first I didn't realize what it was, then as I looked closer
it was a cute smiling face. Did I discover something or is this old news?

73 Jeff W4JEF

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In a message dated 4/7/1999 07:30:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU writes:

> If I convert it to
>  LOtus 123 format the file stays about the same (650K) but Lotus has a line
>  limit of about 8,192 lines.

By far the simplest solution is to move the last 3K lines (or more) of col's
1 & 2 to Col's 3 & 4.  Might make some searches a little slower, but with a
logical break point, it might be easier than using a 3rd program.

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I found yet another occurrence of the HP200lx in real life applications.

At the Neonatal Intensive Care Unit here at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in
Los Angeles, CA, we are testing a new device for monitoring patients.  The
device is handheld and has a serial port which is connected to an HP200lx
(2meg, 1x) for data collection.  Perhaps not incredibly exciting, but it
was a thrill for me (okay, I lead a very dull life).

Also at Cedars, all of the Medicine-Pediatrics (and perhaps Internal
Medicine, as well) residents are offered a 2meg HP200lx as a loaner during
their residency (being in Pediatrics, I had to buy my own).  We have IRDA
printers available on all of the floors for printing and will occasionally
beam patient info between computers ("cybersex") when we switch services.

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My phone list is 887 entries, and on my std 2meg 200lx it opens/closes
in 2seconds. I use the notes field extensively, and have several subsets.

I put this efficiency down to the macro I run regularly, that opens the
file, selects the first subset, the next subset, the next subset...
then closes the file.

I also use this macro with WorldTime and Database & NoteTaker
files.

{F6}{Home}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}
{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}
{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{ Down}{F10}{F6}{Home}{F10}

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Rich C. Johnson wrote:
>
> OK,
> I'm not sure what a fair price would be. What sounds fair to you?
> Where are you located? (I am in Ohio)
> How do you want to handle shipping? (the whole package probably weighs 6 lbs.)
>
> BTW, I also have a complete copy of Lotus Symphony if that might interest you as well.
>
> Let me know how you want to proceed.
>
> Rich
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Hi Rich I WILL LET it go for $30.00 with shipping $5.00
total $35.00
I live in San Francisco ca. Thanks for the offer of Symphony I have a
copy.(one of the best programs out in it's day but it's still can go up
against ms office 95 or 97)
                       Let me know
                            Bob1

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aguze118 wrote:
>
> Hi Rich
> I'm in New York and I just need to know if Paradox will convert CSV format
> because I need a DB that will for what I'm doing. If it does I will buy the
> disks. I just tried a version that I pulled off my network at work and it
> didn't seem to convert CSV.
> Thanks
> Tony
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I don't think it will. I will try it in a day or so.
                   Bob1

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David
 I have an old HP95LX AND HP200LX. I purchase the 4 pack 1350 mah nickel
metal
hydride from Thaddeus computing I put them in my HP95LX They work fine
(not a good idea?) when it comes to charging I am trouble where do I go
to charge.
                              BOB1

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I think we're all missing the real point... what the 200LX doesn't need is
more software, but a CPU upgrade...  I still quietly hold on to the idea
that a Libretto 50CT internals could be somehow shooved into a 200LX (when
you remove the Libretto's harddrive, and other large items, it should
fit...).

I've seen sites advertising credit card sized 200+ MMX Pentium
CPU/Memory/Motherboard units...  why can't anyone build a new 200LX around
that?  Who cares about the 200LX CGA screen not being VGA... I just want to
be able to run real software on it... even if it IS limited to the 32MB of
harddrive space I have on a flash card...

            Tony


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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop


>Win 3 has a novelty that might appeal to some people but what
>I'd rather see are programs that have been discontinued made
>availible again. Like Letterperfect, Computer Calculus
>documentation, QFax, etc.
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If you haven't sold it, I'll give you $200 for the set.

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 8:09 AM
Subject: 200lx for sale


>I have the following items to sell as a package for US$325.00 + Shipping:
>
>        200lx 2 Meg - one year old with manual,
>        SanDisk 10 Meg CF card with PCMCIA adapter,
>        HP Power Adapter (F1011A),
>        Connectivity Cable,
>        14.4 Modem (Compaq),
>        Misc. Adapters (null modem, parallel, etc.),
>        CaseLogic Case, and
>        WordPerfect 5.1(sorry, lost disks - loaded on CF card).
>
>I don't want to sell the individual pieces right now; please no offers on
>individual items at this time.
>
>I've also got an AEA PK-232MBX multimode/packet machine for an interested
>amateur.  I've got the manual, two cables, and a RadioShack power supply.
> I put it up once and ran it through the paces and it works but don't ask
>me much beyond that 'cause I just don't know squat about packet radio.
>I'd take US$100 + Shipping for it.
>
>Larry Zimmerman
>Topeka, KS, USA
>
>
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> This may open up new possibilities for interopertation between the
> multiple TCP/IP solutions available for the HP!

Frankly, I don't think this makes any difference. Everybody seems to
think that TCP/IP is *within* a packet driver. If it were, it would
make a difference because then indeed there would be a common interface
that TCP/IP based applications could use. But as it is, it does not
help that much more than running on the same OS helps.

> Andreas, are you
> aware of the PKTMUX program, and do you know if WWW/LX in ethernet
> mode will run on top of PKTMUX ?

I don't know PKTMUX. If it provides a standard packet driver interface,
WWW/LX should be able to run on top of it when set up for Ethernet.
What is PKTMUX?

> allowing people to use the existing WatTCP based IRC client, as well
> as WWW/LX (obviously not at the same time, but certainly over the one
> phone connection without having to redial).

Ah, now I see what you mean. You could use the same phone connection to
use the different packages one after the other. That should work, even
with EPPPD. But it takes more memory (namely the memory EPPPD needs,
because all that EPPPD is used for is built into WWW/LX and therefore
in memory twice).

> still retaining the capabilities that I absolutely need on a daily
> basis to use my company firewall, and that only LXTCP provides.

What are these utilities?

> you up on the offer above.  I guess the sticking point is how much
> other people use the source code that I write (which I presume I would
> no longer be able to make public if it used the WWW/LX API).

Yup. There just seem too many people (a few are enough) who seem to
have no other hobby than trying to abuse companies :-(

I love free software, but you just cannot provide too much support for
it...

> then I might as well base new programs (which could still
> be provided as freeware executables by D&A) on WWW/LX instead of
> WatTCP, and help make that suite of programs more complete

Personally, I would find that very interesting.

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> In this message I had used a smiley
> towit :) Well.... the smiley was actually displayed as a little round
> smiling face! At first I didn't realize what it was, then as I looked closer
> it was a cute smiling face. Did I discover something or is this old news?

Old news for me. :-)

When I implemented HV, I noticed that "<G>", which is very frequently used
on CompuServe, looks like a HTML tag, so I added support for it.

Congratulations! You have won the following smiley:

 <G>

;-)

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Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM> wrote:

>I imagine it would be pretty tough to compete with that - buy
WordPerfect, get a PC free.

Yes, but the sort of PC you'd get would be an XT-compatible, 80x25 mono
screen, 512k RAM, running plain DOS.  We all know that a PC like that is
completely obsolete and only good for a boat anchor - unless you can fit it
in your pocket!

br
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Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 1:24 AM
Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop


>I think we're all missing the real point... what the 200LX doesn't need is
>more software, but a CPU upgrade...  I still quietly hold on to the idea
>that a Libretto 50CT internals could be somehow shooved into a 200LX (when
>you remove the Libretto's harddrive, and other large items, it should
>fit...).

Its been done already in a way... and resulted in the IBM PC110. Which could
be
described as 2/3 the size of a libretto, or as the same height & width of a
200lx but
about 1.5" deeper than the 200lx.   The problem isnt size though! Its
battery life the
200lx gets its wonderful battery life from its low power components, if you
pop a
486 or pentium CPU in there, no matter how low power it is its still only a
shadow of
the miserly requirements of the 200lx.   So if you need more power and want
to
sacrifice battery life for it (you can always carry spares) then the PC110
is an excellent
choice, and the libretto is as well at the cost of extra size/weight.

Now what could work, but we would never see it is borrowing a bit from the
older omnibooks.
Take a 386/486 low power cpu, put it in a case the size of a HP 680 with its
Series 5 like keyboard with a backlit mono screen + optional backlit (ala
360lx) and fit it with a lithium/Ion
battery attached to the back (or front) with an optional High capacity slab
battery which would add about 1/4" to the thickness of the unit.   Will we
see anything remotely like this? No! but it would be interesting.

>
>I've seen sites advertising credit card sized 200+ MMX Pentium
>CPU/Memory/Motherboard units...  why can't anyone build a new 200LX around
>that?  Who cares about the 200LX CGA screen not being VGA... I just want to
>be able to run real software on it... even if it IS limited to the 32MB of
>harddrive space I have on a flash card...

Its not that it can't be done, its just that the market isnt going that way.
When HP was
an engineering shop and designed the 100/200/1000cx they actually used the
units, and
in some cases still do (i remember singapore shots of WinCE machines on a
bench
being tested by a 200lx <G>).  Now most of the machines out there are
designed with
sales driven goals, and IMO often have never been really field tested for
usefulness. Its
sad but its the way of things, and I doubt we will see anything as
innovative and useful
for some time to come.

Its wierd but history in handhelds is repeating that of desktop evolution.
For example:

HP Released DOS based handhelds (HP95/100/200/1000cx) (IBM released PC's)
Palm releases the Pilot with a simple GUI OS (Apple released the Macintosh)
Microsoft invents WinCE to enter the market against palm  (MS Windows vs
Apple Mac)

Now whats even stranger is that the 200lx is similar in architecture to a
early PC, and the
Palm is similar to a Macintosh (68000 series processor, etc.)

Well enough of my rambling.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com


>
>            Tony
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
>Date: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 8:24 AM
>Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop
>
>
>>Win 3 has a novelty that might appeal to some people but what
>>I'd rather see are programs that have been discontinued made
>>availible again. Like Letterperfect, Computer Calculus
>>documentation, QFax, etc.
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Subject:      Re: Windows 3 on palmtop
Comments: To: Anthony Olsen <Tony.Olsen@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>

It sounds pretty easy but even though the hardware is there the main
problem is trying to run a 386+ cpu on a pair of AA cells. The best
I've seen is a bare-bones 486 board that was running Linux that
claimed around 80mA using a 5 volt power supply. The cpu itself was
probably using at least 60 mA.
No video, pcmcia, serial. Add it and your looking at upwards of 100+
mA which will only give you 8-12 hours of battery life compared to
the 20+ you get now. Can you live with it? You'd be at the level of
CE or worse. The x86 is a high drain cpu. So that means additional
development costs. It really sucks the current
compared to the newer strong arm. The second problem is would a board
like that sell? I would buy one and you would buy one but thats only
two. Its expensive to manufacture niche market products. You gotta be
able to make a certain quantity otherwise you price yourself right
out of the market. Nobody would pay 2 or 3 grand for a upgrade. Even
at 1 its pushing it. Low power x86 are coming very late in the game,
they're not very good and the customer base is eroding.


> I think we're all missing the real point... what the 200LX doesn't need is
> more software, but a CPU upgrade...  I still quietly hold on to the idea
<snip>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Date: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 8:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop
>
>
> >Win 3 has a novelty that might appeal to some people but what
> >I'd rather see are programs that have been discontinued made
> >availible again. Like Letterperfect, Computer Calculus
> >documentation, QFax, etc.
> >
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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:54:18 -0600
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   >I have a couple of questions for users of the Kodak DC20 and LXDC.
   >First will a 2xHP200 work with the DC20 and LXDC. My unit would not
   >comunicate with the DC20 at any erial port setting.
   >Second when I tried to connect with a 4mb 1x palmtop,  I found that
   >it did connect, that upon pressing F1, LXDC would display the
   >version # 1.00 and the Taken/Rest # of pictures. The Taken/rest #
   >did correspond the # of pictures on the DC20. However when I
   >pressed F2 to look at the thumbnails, I got a message "Can't open
   >file" and nothing else. The DC20 is working properly since ith will
   >connect with the Kodak software on my notebook and display all 8
   >images. Am I doing something stupid? Help!
Message-Id: <19990408075422.FWLF6844@34.oxnard-01rs13-14rt.ca.dial-access.att.net>

Well, I just sold my DC20, but I can tell you it worked in my 2x/6mb 200LX
with LXDC. Could be something wrong with your connector. I built mine with
the help of some list members' instructions and the diagrams on the
different websites, but I think it's supposed to work (and I remember
trying it this way) with the provided cable, the LX cable and an adapter (I
forget which)....and I sold my connector too.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:54:33 -0600
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   >> I have an Excel file. It is about 11,000 lines long and 2 columns
   >> wide. I want  to use it as a database type dictionary...
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   >How about converting it to a text file, formatting with tabs, then
   >viewing with Vern Buerg's LIST(or similar program) which has built
   >in string look-up cabability? That is the method I use for a
   >database I have with drug names & molecular weights. Text file
   >should be smaller too.

OTOH, I took a 10,000 row, 2 column text file (200k bytes) and converted it
to DBF, and the size shrank to 190k. I guessed it was the omission of the
CR/LFs....but the original poster's explosion from 650k to 5mb sounds
extreme....hard to diagnose without knowing more about the makeup of the
file, but bloated DBF formats shouldn't be taken as a given, and his large
DBF sounds suspiciously like a conversion problem.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:54:40 -0600
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              Longden Loo <LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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   >I think we're all missing the real point... what the 200LX doesn't
   >need is more software, but a CPU upgrade...  I still quietly hold
   >on to the idea that a Libretto 50CT internals could be somehow
   >shooved into a 200LX (when you remove the Libretto's harddrive, and
   >other large items, it should fit...).
   >I've seen sites advertising credit card sized 200+ MMX Pentium
   >CPU/Memory/Motherboard units...  why can't anyone build a new 200LX
   >around that?  Who cares about the 200LX CGA screen not being VGA...
   >I just want to be able to run real software on it... even if it IS
   >limited to the 32MB of harddrive space I have on a flash card...
Message-Id: <19990408075443.FWMW6844@34.oxnard-01rs13-14rt.ca.dial-access.att.net>

Considering how we've been arguing the dollars and cents of even adding an
IRC client with a vendor these last few days, and that a simple memory
upgrade to 64mb (with no real change in the architecture) will set you back
$500 or so...building and marketing a new 200LX around a completely
different architecture is a pretty optimisitic proposition, given how most
of us are such tightwads (as Avi and Hal can attest to) <g>.

But I'm all in favor of optimists....I think the most hardware savy members
of this group would probably jump at a chance to do something truly awesome
with the LX (besides extending the chrome exhaust pipes) if a reasonable
opportunity presented itself.

This CPU on a card has been mentioned before, and that no one has pursued
it (or any CPU upgrade) is probably a testament to how tightly integrated
the LX's systems are (CPU, display, I/O). What's being proposed is perhaps
possible, but I think it may be an over-simplification to suppose that it
was feasible based solely on the component sizes. Just because we can make
little atom bombs doesn't make it feasible to have atom-powered cars.

So for the moment, I'll have to content myself with a two speed upgrade and
the fact that I am already running "real software" on it.

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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:00:38 -0500
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-----Original Message-----
From: Longden Loo <LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 2:56 AM
Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop


<snip>

>Just because we can make
>little atom bombs doesn't make it feasible to have atom-powered cars.

Now thats a scary thought.  It would definitely give new meaning to minor
accidents. Yes
i can see it now:

<Radio Announcer>
"today there was a pileup on the Los Angeles freeway, the glow could be seen
from Las
Vegas. <G>
</Radio Announcer>

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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 05:20:46 -0400
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pegasus Mail
Comments: To: Stephen Ward <sward@FLASH.NET>

Pegasus works fine on the 200LX. It was easy I just copied the files
from my desktop to the palmtop. Its large though. It used about a meg
of space.


> Anyone in the group using Pegasus Mail on the 200LX?  I'm using
> Pegasus (freeware) now on my desktop & laptop, and think it would be
> marginally better to use it on the palmtop in order to ease the
> transfer of mail between palmtop & desktop.  From preliminary rounds
> on various web sites, it seems a bear to set up and run.
>
> Also, can anyone compare the capabilities of Pegasus with the more
> current programs for the HP such as Goin' Postal, WWW/LX, or
> whatelse?
>
> TIA
>
>
> Stephen Ward
> sward@flash.net
>
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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:12:09 +1200
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              Daivd Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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May I respectfully suggest WordPerfect Office?

Freeware, dos-based, fast, cga compat, link to WPx.x, DataPerfect,
user-configurable menus, built-in Filer, Calculator, Notebook/database,
Editor & context sensitive help. You can even have your LX sysmanager
on a menu!

follow the yellow brick road from www.palmtop.net

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 04:25:35 PDT
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              al chin <hobchi@HOTMAIL.COM>
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All;
>
>GTX, >daniel
>
>P.S.: I have a 4MB 200LX and use a PCMCIA modem.
>I wish I had more internal memory. But if I delete
>_all_ not really needed stuff, 4MB is just enough
>
One can also get a memory modem card.  I've seen
them as high as 20MB  with a 14.4 modem.

Semper mobilius,
yor pal al...................


_______________________________________________________________
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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:51:47 +0200
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              Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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>May I respectfully suggest WordPerfect Office?
>follow the yellow brick road from www.palmtop.net


:-)

I am lost, where's the yellow brick road to WordPerfect Office?

br

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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:55:17 -0400
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              "Rich C. Johnson" <Rich.Johnson@EY.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Agenda and HP LX File transfer
Comments: To: cameronc@IX.Netcom.com

It's been a while since I used Agenda but I seem to remember that it shipped with a versatile utility program that could parse files from just about any format into Agenda files. I think it could translate both ways.
In fact there was a separate book included which described how to use the program. Next time I'm in my basement I'll rummage around and see if I can find it. I have all the docs... the question is where <g>.

Hope this helps,
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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:01:46 -0400
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              "Rich C. Johnson" <Rich.Johnson@EY.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Database trouble
Comments: To: aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU

There was a nice fast little database program called Reflex which will run on an XT, has a small footprint (approx 100k), and will import/export to csv format. Borland created it. It is from the mid-1980s so may be available as copyrighted freeware (a la Data Perfect).

Rich

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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:03:29 -0400
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              "Rich C. Johnson" <Rich.Johnson@EY.COM>
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I will check the documentation and let you know.

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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:05:01 +0200
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Hi

Is there any informatian available if it's feasable to connect with
the palmtop to a T-Online account from 'anywhere' ?

iPass is a US-company which seems to handle the international
connections.

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From:         Hermann Kellinghaus <Herm.Kellinghaus@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      DOS-Office SW on palmtops  (was:  Windoze on palmtops...)
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> Daivd Lawrence
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 1:12 PM
>
> May I respectfully suggest WordPerfect Office?
>

What's about the Lotus palette of such programs? They developed the
palmtop SW I think.

The Lotus Smart Suite is an office package (W95/98, NT, OS/2) which
has excellent Import/Export facilities, especially in the data base
area.

Hermann

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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:14:16 -0400
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              Bill Sprague <eugarps@IBM.NET>
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It's sold but thanks for your response.

----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Olsen <Tony.Olsen@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: 200lx for sale


> If you haven't sold it, I'll give you $200 for the set.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 8:09 AM
> Subject: 200lx for sale
>
>
> >I have the following items to sell as a package for US$325.00 + Shipping:
> >
> >        200lx 2 Meg - one year old with manual,
> >        SanDisk 10 Meg CF card with PCMCIA adapter,
> >        HP Power Adapter (F1011A),
> >        Connectivity Cable,
> >        14.4 Modem (Compaq),
> >        Misc. Adapters (null modem, parallel, etc.),
> >        CaseLogic Case, and
> >        WordPerfect 5.1(sorry, lost disks - loaded on CF card).
> >
> >I don't want to sell the individual pieces right now; please no offers on
> >individual items at this time.
> >
> >I've also got an AEA PK-232MBX multimode/packet machine for an interested
> >amateur.  I've got the manual, two cables, and a RadioShack power supply.
> > I put it up once and ran it through the paces and it works but don't ask
> >me much beyond that 'cause I just don't know squat about packet radio.
> >I'd take US$100 + Shipping for it.
> >
> >Larry Zimmerman
> >Topeka, KS, USA
> >
> >
> >
> >___________________________________________________________________
> >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:42:28 -0400
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              Bill Sprague <eugarps@IBM.NET>
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This message was miss routed to me.  I assume Larry Z. still has the package
for sale.

Sorry for stepping on someone else's post,

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Sprague <eugarps@IBM.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: 200lx for sale


> It's sold but thanks for your response.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Anthony Olsen <Tony.Olsen@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 2:29 AM
> Subject: Re: 200lx for sale
>
>
> > If you haven't sold it, I'll give you $200 for the set.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 8:09 AM
> > Subject: 200lx for sale
> >
> >
> > >I have the following items to sell as a package for US$325.00 +
Shipping:
> > >
> > >        200lx 2 Meg - one year old with manual,
> > >        SanDisk 10 Meg CF card with PCMCIA adapter,
> > >        HP Power Adapter (F1011A),
> > >        Connectivity Cable,
> > >        14.4 Modem (Compaq),
> > >        Misc. Adapters (null modem, parallel, etc.),
> > >        CaseLogic Case, and
> > >        WordPerfect 5.1(sorry, lost disks - loaded on CF card).
> > >
> > >I don't want to sell the individual pieces right now; please no offers
on
> > >individual items at this time.
> > >
> > >I've also got an AEA PK-232MBX multimode/packet machine for an
interested
> > >amateur.  I've got the manual, two cables, and a RadioShack power
supply.
> > > I put it up once and ran it through the paces and it works but don't
ask
> > >me much beyond that 'cause I just don't know squat about packet radio.
> > >I'd take US$100 + Shipping for it.
> > >
> > >Larry Zimmerman
> > >Topeka, KS, USA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >___________________________________________________________________
> > >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> > >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at
http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
> > >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO 654-5866
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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:45:00 +0100
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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It's also sold in Germany by Rundel Datentechnik

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1999-04-08-06:54:33 Longden Loo:
> OTOH, I took a 10,000 row, 2 column text file (200k bytes) and converted it
> to DBF, and the size shrank to 190k. I guessed it was the omission of the
> CR/LFs....but the original poster's explosion from 650k to 5mb sounds
> extreme....hard to diagnose without knowing more about the makeup of the
> file, but bloated DBF formats shouldn't be taken as a given, and his large
> DBF sounds suspiciously like a conversion problem.

Interesting --- I've been accustomed to variable bloat on converting CSV ->
DBF, and have seen worse than 650KB->5MB; it all depends on how many
variable-width fields you have in the table. I'm pretty sure DBF format is
fixed-field-width only, and that's the lethal killer for space bloat. For
instance, I just made a sample to play with; I started with:

"col0","col1","col2","col3","col4","col5","col6","col7","col8","col9"
"This very very wide field value is bloody annoying","","","","","","","","",""
"","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying","","","","","","","",""
"","","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying","","","","","","",""
"","","","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying","","","","","",""
"","","","","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying","","","","",""
"","","","","","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying","","","",""
"","","","","","","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying","","",""
"","","","","","","","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying","",""
"","","","","","","","","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying",""
"","","","","","","","","","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying"

Then I made copies of the last 10 lines, until I had 8,000 copies all up
(8,001 lines in the csv file); with newlines (on Unix, no CRs) it came to some
640KB. Converted it to dbf with a simple perl script and the resulting file
was about 4MB. Have more variable-width fields, or a wider range of variation,
and the bloat hurts harder.

When this bloat bugs me, I look for the extra-long values that are bloating
out the fields, and find a way to recode 'em to make the field widths more
uniform record-to-record.

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Last night my 200LX screen started dimming out for some reason.
During bootup or when running diagnostics the screen contrast is
fine, but when it goes to the topcard the screen is dim from then on.

I've tried <on - +> but that doesn't help. I've changed the batteries,
and tried running from AC, but it's still the same.

Any thoughts??

TIA,
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There is a small article in the Circuits section of the April 8 New York
Times that might be of interest.

The article describes a "matchbox" PC 5" square inches by 4/5" thick.
The matchbox "contains a 486 processor, 16 megabytes of RAM and a
340-megabyte hard drive. It also has ports to connect a keyboard, monitor
and modem."

Go to http://www.nytimes.com in the Circuits section for the complete
article.  Registration for NYTimes online is free.

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EdwardKeefe wrote:

 > I also ran across a text document about Word 1 or 2 that claimed that it
 > was not Y2K compliant. The writer stated that trying to save a large file
 > with a date >2000 corrupted his hard disk.  Can anyone confirm or deny
 > this? I know that's asking a lot but I don't have an early version of Word
 > or I'd do it myself.

I changed my system date to 2001, used word 1.0 w/ win 2.03 on a 25,000
word document.  Made a few minutes of changes and saved.  No problems,
AFAIK.  Date of the file had 04/08/01 in the Summary Info of word.

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Hallo
I am searching for a Dos Version of the Langenscheidt Dictionary German
French running on the LX200.
Does someone know where to get ?
Rudolf

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Not wishing to sign up for yet another source of email, were there any
websites listed in the article for the maker of this cool item?  I can
see my next Unix server just waiting for me... :-)

> The article describes a "matchbox" PC 5" square inches by 4/5" thick.
> The matchbox "contains a 486 processor, 16 megabytes of RAM and a
> 340-megabyte hard drive. It also has ports to connect a keyboard, monitor
> and modem."

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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Bennett Todd wrote:

> Interesting --- I've been accustomed to variable bloat on converting
> CSV -> DBF, and have seen worse than 650KB->5MB; it all depends on how
> many variable-width fields you have in the table. I'm pretty sure DBF
> format is fixed-field-width only, and that's the lethal killer for
> space bloat. For instance, I just made a sample to play with; I
> started with:

And that's why database files often compress quite well with software like
Jam and Stacker.  Personally, if I ever get my multimegabyte GNIS
placename DBF files onto the palmtop, I'll load Jam or Stacker first so
space won't be heavily wasted.  In fact, I'd have done this already, if I
could read a Jammed or Stacked flash card from Windows 98 on my desktop...

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I wanted to price a copy of Win95 on Ebay, but it turns
out that 98% of the listings for Win95 have had an invalid
link inserted. Microsoft lawyers are after some vendors of
counterfeit Win95 in Virginia and it smells like they talked to
Ebay. Some sellers may be disappointed when the high bid
is $1 for their CD. I know it is of questionable legality to buy
"preowned" software. My opinion is that if you are selling the
CD plus supporting material, it should be OK.

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I you have a two field dbf file and specify that each field allow 50 chars.,
then each record will be 10 chars., even though you may only enter 5 chars.
in each. DBF files are blank padded to the specified field sizes. If you can
stand the time/TSR space penalty, using a compressor such as Diet will regain
you that space and probably more.

Longden Loo wrote:

>    >> I have an Excel file. It is about 11,000 lines long and 2 columns
>    >> wide. I want  to use it as a database type dictionary...
> Message-Id: <19990408075436.FWMH6844@34.oxnard-01rs13-14rt.ca.dial-access.att.net>
>
>    >How about converting it to a text file, formatting with tabs, then
>    >viewing with Vern Buerg's LIST(or similar program) which has built
>
> OTOH, I took a 10,000 row, 2 column text file (200k bytes) and converted it
> to DBF, and the size shrank to 190k. I guessed it was the omission of the
> CR/LFs....but the original poster's explosion from 650k to 5mb sounds
> extreme....hard to diagnose without knowing more about the makeup of the
> file, but bloated DBF formats shouldn't be taken as a given, and his large
> DBF sounds suspiciously like a conversion problem.

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Pardon, a zero got left out of the second line in my earlier msg.


If you have a two field dbf file and specify that each field allow 50 chars.,
then each record will be 100 chars., even though you may only enter 5 chars.
in each. DBF files are blank padded to the specified field sizes. If you can
stand the time/TSR space penalty, using a compressor such as Diet will regain
you that space and probably more.

Longden Loo wrote:

>    >> I have an Excel file. It is about 11,000 lines long and 2 columns
>    >> wide. I want  to use it as a database type dictionary...
..but the original poster's explosion from 650k to 5mb sounds
> extreme....hard to diagnose without knowing more about the makeup of the
> file, but bloated DBF formats shouldn't be taken as a given, and his large
> DBF sounds suspiciously like a conversion problem.

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Hi-

First- really enjoy the collective knowledge of this list.  I am running
SmmX after some struggle on a 1 Meg LX200.  When I run a session it
makes the system clock reset.  Anyone else having similar problems?

Ben

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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Stan Peters wrote:

> I know it is of questionable legality to buy "preowned" software. My
> opinion is that if you are selling the CD plus supporting material, it
> should be OK.

I don't think it's of questionable legality.  In fact, I believe that
selling the software is specifically allowed in the licenses of most
software.  Of course, if you keep a copy, then you're illegal...

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Look at the Langenscheidt Web Page. I saw something there.
Winfried



> Hallo
> I am searching for a Dos Version of the Langenscheidt Dictionary German
> French running on the LX200.
> Does someone know where to get ?
> Rudolf
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Following article quoted from the NYTimes web site without permission...:

Section quoted is part of multi-subject article at:
http://search.nytimes.com/search/daily/bin/fastweb?getdoc+site+iib-site+74+0
+wAAA+matchbox

-------- start quote

--- A Tiny Personal Computer Is So Small It Can Be Worn ---

With his latest invention, Vaughan Pratt, a professor of computer science at
Stanford University, has taken one small step for a man and one really tiny
step for mankind.

Pratt has created one of the world's smallest personal computers. Not only
can it run Windows 95 and surf the Net, but it's also meant to be worn as a
fashion statement.

Pratt's compact computer is a mere five square inches and four-fifths of an
inch thick, but brain-wise, it dwarfs many bigger personal digital
assistants. It contains a 486 processor, 16 megabytes of RAM and a
340-megabyte hard drive. It also has ports to connect a keyboard, monitor
and modem.

Then there is its other unusual feature: the ability to be worn as an
accessory. Pratt said one impetus behind his creation of the puny PC was to
make it wearable; it can be attached to a belt or necklace.

The driving force behind the creation of the new computer, which Pratt is
temporarily calling the matchbox PC, involves advances in the world of
embedded computers.

These are computers that manufacturers put into all manner of things big and
small, like toaster ovens, cars and even watches. Increasingly, the creators
of these computers have found it difficult to find standard software to run
on them, so they have tried to make embedded computers compatible with PC
software, Pratt said.

-------- end quote

Additional references:
http://www.jumptec.de/product/data/components/dimmpc486.html
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Hi Steve,

> Last night my 200LX screen started dimming out for some reason.
> During bootup or when running diagnostics the screen contrast is
> fine, but when it goes to the topcard the screen is dim from then on.
>
> I've tried <on - +> but that doesn't help. I've changed the batteries,
> and tried running from AC, but it's still the same.

AFAIK the screen dims when the palmtop gets hot.
(While charging batteries for example)

So maybe there is something wrong in your machine that it
becomes warm while working with it?
Is it only the topcard or dims the screen also if you
run plain DOS for a while?

Or dims it only if there should be much black on the screen
(like a topcard or maybe a GUI of a graphical DOS program)

GTX
daniel


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Hi

> I put this efficiency down to the macro I run regularly, that opens the
> file, selects the first subset, the next subset, the next subset...
> then closes the file.

OK, now we know what it does.
But I don't know for what. Why does it increase the efficiency?

GTX
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Hi Al,

> >P.S.: I have a 4MB 200LX and use a PCMCIA modem.
> >I wish I had more internal memory. But if I delete
> >_all_ not really needed stuff, 4MB is just enough
> >
> One can also get a memory modem card.  I've seen
> them as high as 20MB  with a 14.4 modem.

Yes, I know, but they are way too expensive!!!

TNX+GTX
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Ed,

This is a good site.  I recently purchased Power Point 2.0 from Gene
Ehrich, and received it fairly promptly.

--Ted

On  7 Apr 99 18:10, Ed Keefe wrote:
From: Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>

> I was looking for old copies of Word that would run on the Palmtop
> under Win3.0 and found a site that has lots of old software :
> www.voicenet.com/~generic/
>
> I also ran across a text document about Word 1 or 2 that claimed
> that it was not Y2K compliant. The writer stated that trying to save
> a large file with a date >2000 corrupted his hard disk.  Can anyone
> confirm or deny this? I know that's asking a lot but I don't have an
> early version of Word or I'd do it myself.
>
> .ed.
>

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he's got the American hertiage Dictionary for $9.. damn! I just paid $25!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Peterson mailto:ted@NICAR.ORG
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 10:34 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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> Ed,
>
> This is a good site.  I recently purchased Power Point 2.0 from Gene
> Ehrich, and received it fairly promptly.
>
> --Ted
>
> On  7 Apr 99 18:10, Ed Keefe wrote:
> From: Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
>
> > I was looking for old copies of Word that would run on the Palmtop
> > under Win3.0 and found a site that has lots of old software :
> > www.voicenet.com/~generic/
> >
> > I also ran across a text document about Word 1 or 2 that claimed
> > that it was not Y2K compliant. The writer stated that trying to save
> > a large file with a date >2000 corrupted his hard disk.  Can anyone
> > confirm or deny this? I know that's asking a lot but I don't have an
> > early version of Word or I'd do it myself.
> >
> > .ed.
> >
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: A more powerful "200lx"

> With his latest invention, Vaughan Pratt, a professor of computer science at
> Stanford University, has taken one small step for a man and one really tiny
> step for mankind.


Pretty flashy

>
> Pratt has created one of the world's smallest personal computers. Not only

Apparently if the 200LX had a 486, it would be THE WORLD'S
SMALLEST complete computer syste. It has video, storage, keyboard
port to hook up a modem.

> can it run Windows 95 and surf the Net, but it's also meant to be worn as a
> fashion statement.
>
> Pratt's compact computer is a mere five square inches and four-fifths of an
> inch thick, but brain-wise, it dwarfs many bigger personal digital
> assistants. It contains a 486 processor, 16 megabytes of RAM and a
> 340-megabyte hard drive. It also has ports to connect a keyboard, monitor
> and modem.

I wonder how much room the hard drive uses. Do you think
he's using a type III pcmcia?

>
> Then there is its other unusual feature: the ability to be worn as an
> accessory. Pratt said one impetus behind his creation of the puny PC was to
> make it wearable; it can be attached to a belt or necklace.
>

Easier to just stick it on the pocket.

> The driving force behind the creation of the new computer, which Pratt is
> temporarily calling the matchbox PC, involves advances in the world of
> embedded computers.
>
> These are computers that manufacturers put into all manner of things big and
> small, like toaster ovens, cars and even watches. Increasingly,

Toaster oven? Really. What's it going to do, monitor the house?

the creators
> of these computers have found it difficult to find standard software to run
> on them, so they have tried to make embedded computers compatible with PC
> software, Pratt said.

Gee, I think I'll go play a game on my toaster oven<g>

> -------- end quote
>
> Additional references:
> http://www.jumptec.de/product/data/components/dimmpc486.html
> http://www.pctvmag.com/tiny.html
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> I wonder how much room the hard drive uses. Do you think he's using a
> type III pcmcia?

Could be one of IBM's CompactDrives.  A 340MB hard drive in CompactFlash
Type II (twice as thick as your average CF card) size... Hal and I saw
those at Comdex, although I haven't seen anything about them since...

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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote:

> Could be one of IBM's CompactDrives.  A 340MB hard drive in CompactFlash
> Type II (twice as thick as your average CF card) size... Hal and I saw
> those at Comdex, although I haven't seen anything about them since...

They're in production right now.  (According to the people I know at IBM.)

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I have used Diet under Win95. I can compress a file
from the command line. Read it with an editor (via TSR), but not
then rewrite it.
So you can massage on Win95, if you use command line both ways.

David Sargeant wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Bennett Todd wrote:
>
> > Interesting --- I've been accustomed to variable bloat on converting
> > CSV -> DBF, and have seen worse than 650KB->5MB; it all depends on how
> > many variable-width fields you have in the table. I'm pretty sure DBF
> > format is fixed-field-width only, and that's the lethal killer for
> > space bloat. For instance, I just made a sample to play with; I
> > started with:
>
> And that's why database files often compress quite well with software like
> Jam and Stacker.  Personally, if I ever get my multimegabyte GNIS
> placename DBF files onto the palmtop, I'll load Jam or Stacker first so
> space won't be heavily wasted.  In fact, I'd have done this already, if I
> could read a Jammed or Stacked flash card from Windows 98 on my desktop...
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Subject:      Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>

Jeff Johns writes:
> Rod, please, write us a good IRC client that will do DCC file transfers :)

Jeff,

I don't have the time or inclination to write an IRC client (I've never
used IRC myself), but I am looking at an existing ICQ client to work
with LXTCP.  Easier to modify than create.

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Subject:      Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx
Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>

Andreas Garzotto writes:
> Frankly, I don't think this makes any difference. Everybody seems to
> think that TCP/IP is *within* a packet driver. If it were, it would
> make a difference because then indeed there would be a common interface
> that TCP/IP based applications could use. But as it is, it does not
> help that much more than running on the same OS helps.

That's true.  BTW, when designing the WWW/LX API, did you look at the
Tumpet ABI for TCP/IP on DOS.  It seems to be the closest to a "common
interface" that there is.

> > Andreas, are you
> > aware of the PKTMUX program, and do you know if WWW/LX in ethernet
> > mode will run on top of PKTMUX ?
>
> I don't know PKTMUX. If it provides a standard packet driver interface,
> WWW/LX should be able to run on top of it when set up for Ethernet.
> What is PKTMUX?

It allows you to multiplex multiple packet drivers apps onto the same
packet driver.  It was mainly used when people had multiple windows dos
boxes open, and wanted to run a packet app in each window.  Initial
investigations show that it can do the same thing on the palmtop (i.e.
allow WWW/LX and LXTCP to run off the same packet driver, or to allow
LXFTP to run inside a shelled-out dos session in LXTELNET).

> > allowing people to use the existing WatTCP based IRC client, as well
> > as WWW/LX (obviously not at the same time, but certainly over the one
> > phone connection without having to redial).
>
> Ah, now I see what you mean. You could use the same phone connection to
> use the different packages one after the other. That should work, even
> with EPPPD. But it takes more memory (namely the memory EPPPD needs,
> because all that EPPPD is used for is built into WWW/LX and therefore
> in memory twice).

Except in the case where you are already using the packet driver anyway
(when you are connected via ethernet). Then you've already got the
memory overhead anyway.  I can also envisage a network TSR that runs in
the background doing FTP transfers while WWW/LX or a chat client is still
operating in the foreground.

Have you considered releasing an ethernet-only WWWLX.EXE ?

> > still retaining the capabilities that I absolutely need on a daily
> > basis to use my company firewall, and that only LXTCP provides.
>
> What are these utilities?

LXNNTP (to connect to new.hplx.net daily through a firewall that only
allows telnet connections to ports above 1024), an FTP server (to
allow machines to FTP _to_ the palmtop and transfer files - used daily
to mirror any changed files from the palmtop to the Unix desktop using
the standard perl FTP site mirroring software), a ping responder (so
the script on Unix can find out when the palmtop has come online and
can automatically start the backup).  In the future: an ICQ client to
find out when colleagues are online, a WWW server on the palmtop, etc.

> > you up on the offer above.  I guess the sticking point is how much
> > other people use the source code that I write (which I presume I would
> > no longer be able to make public if it used the WWW/LX API).
>
> Yup. There just seem too many people (a few are enough) who seem to
> have no other hobby than trying to abuse companies :-(
>
> I love free software, but you just cannot provide too much support for
> it...

Agreed on both points.  I really wish people on this list would stop
bashing the few palmtop companies that still exist.

> > then I might as well base new programs (which could still
> > be provided as freeware executables by D&A) on WWW/LX instead of
> > WatTCP, and help make that suite of programs more complete
>
> Personally, I would find that very interesting.

I dream of the day when TCP/IP connectivity is a TSR on the HP that I
load up before software carousel, and that is aware of when I plug a
modem or ethernet card in the socket, or when there is an IR or radio
link available, and connects automatically to the nearest Internet
connection (which will be absolutely everywhere in the future).

Then I run WWW/LX in the foreground (with a background LXFTP process
transferring files while I surf, and a background web server being
accessed by others) and can switch to another session to telnet to
another machine for a minute, and then go back to surfing where I left
off.

We have the technology and expertise to do all this - we just need to
gather the technology, knowledge and effort into one virtual place.

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On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Rod Whitby wrote:
> can automatically start the backup).  In the future: an ICQ client to

Rod, MICQ is already out there... it's WATTCP compliant.  Dave Sargeant
and I used it yesterday.

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On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Rod Whitby wrote:

> I dream of the day when TCP/IP connectivity is a TSR on the HP that I
> load up before software carousel, and that is aware of when I plug a
> modem or ethernet card in the socket, or when there is an IR or radio
> link available, and connects automatically to the nearest Internet
> connection (which will be absolutely everywhere in the future).

You might want to check out the new editorial that Ian Butler put up on
www.hplx.net last night.  It's very similar.

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Subject:      HP 48

Is there an emulation of the HP 48 that works on the 200 LX?

Thanks.


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Subject:      Science formulas for solver--number limits

Hello everyone

Does anyone know if there are databases of science equations
for solver floating around anywhere? Maybe something that
someone has used to calculate the momentum of photons, rocket
thrust--that sort of thing. Also does anyone know the maximum
number size that can be used in solver? Thanks

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David Sargeant writes:
> On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> > I wonder how much room the hard drive uses. Do you think he's using a
> > type III pcmcia?
>
> Could be one of IBM's CompactDrives.  A 340MB hard drive in CompactFlash
> Type II (twice as thick as your average CF card) size... Hal and I saw
> those at Comdex, although I haven't seen anything about them since...

Are these drives useable in a type II slot? How bad is the power
consumption compared to a flash card? I thought about using a
tpye III but the one I have uses .6 amp and I'd have to use a
powered extender. Maybe, if the price was reasonable, these
would be worth consideration. How is the speed compared to a
flash card?

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David
I downloaded Dataperfect but it doesn't seem like it's a complete version. The
only files I have are
data.msg
dp.exe
dp.sys
dp26c.exe
dpexp.com
dpimp.com
mcreate.com
ste-mgr.com
When I run the program it states that there are no files to import and there
isn't even a help file. I searched the entire Dataperfect site and downloaded
whatever was there.
Tony

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Comments: To: malkajef@orthohelp.com

I have been wondering about this too!! If there isn't does
anyone know what it would take to write one? I'd love
to have the capibilites of the 48 on the 200!!!


Jeff Malka writes:
> Is there an emulation of the HP 48 that works on the 200 LX?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Is this the one at http://wearables.stanford.edu??  Supposed to be world's
smallest web server - they have links to the manufacturer....
Suresh

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry N Zimmerman SMTP:zimm4@JUNO.COM
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 10:49 AM
> Subject:      A more powerful "200lx"
>
> There is a small article in the Circuits section of the April 8 New York
> Times that might be of interest.
>
> The article describes a "matchbox" PC 5" square inches by 4/5" thick.
> The matchbox "contains a 486 processor, 16 megabytes of RAM and a
> 340-megabyte hard drive. It also has ports to connect a keyboard, monitor
> and modem."
>
> Go to http://www.nytimes.com in the Circuits section for the complete
> article.  Registration for NYTimes online is free.
>
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Maybe these folks have to make a living, i.e., eat, etc. Maybe I am missing
something, but I thought that was the idea of a business.

Maybe these guys, Thaddeus, D&A, etc. could get some government funding for their
business -- either Federal, State or a large corporation that resembles
government. Then the folks as Thaddeus, D&A, etc. could go out and get a
government job and make a living, i.e., eat, and perhaps have an eight hour work
day, paid vacation, large bank accounts all funded by my tax dollars.

Aw, never mind, forget all this, just let them put their eight hours in for free.
There should be a local soup kitchen in their town.

>         Bob Pigford
>
> > The other thing that really annoys me on that list is the attitude of
> > "commercial developers only want profit and try to steal our money".
> > Frankly, I don't think that any of the existing companies that support
> > the 200LX would still exist if it were for profit. Companies like
> > Thaddeus, 1SPS, or D&A are driven by enthusiasm for a great platform.
> > So I will not participate in any discussions regarding prices. At best,
> > they will chase me away from that list again.
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Is there a place explaining where to get MICQ and WATTCP and setting them up
for chatting on the palmtop?

Thanks!

Philippe :)

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Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx


> On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Rod Whitby wrote:
> > can automatically start the backup).  In the future: an ICQ client to
>
> Rod, MICQ is already out there... it's WATTCP compliant.  Dave Sargeant
> and I used it yesterday.
>
> Bill Childers
> South Valley Consulting
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote:

> Is there a place explaining where to get MICQ and WATTCP and setting them up
> for chatting on the palmtop?

MICQ is available at http://members.tripod.com/~ladsoft/

The WATTCP stuff is similar to LxTCP, available from Rod Whitby's pageat
http://tcp.hplx.net



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Does anyone have a 100LX manual or a lotus 1-2-3 manual lying around
somewhere that they would be willing to sell? Or is the 1-2-3 manual
somewhere in softcopy?

Thanks!

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I'd be willing to bet it is<g>


Nirody, Suresh writes:
> Is this the one at http://wearables.stanford.edu??  Supposed to be world's
> smallest web server - they have links to the manufacturer....
> Suresh
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry N Zimmerman SMTP:zimm4@JUNO.COM
> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 10:49 AM
> > Subject:      A more powerful "200lx"
> >
> > There is a small article in the Circuits section of the April 8 New York
> > Times that might be of interest.
> >
> > The article describes a "matchbox" PC 5" square inches by 4/5" thick.
> > The matchbox "contains a 486 processor, 16 megabytes of RAM and a
> > 340-megabyte hard drive. It also has ports to connect a keyboard, monitor
> > and modem."
> >
> > Go to http://www.nytimes.com in the Circuits section for the complete
> > article.  Registration for NYTimes online is free.
> >
> > Larry Zimmerman
> >
> > __________________________________________________________________ _
> > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
> > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO 654-5866
>
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I doubt its anywhere near that.


> Aw, never mind, forget all this, just let them put their eight hours in for free.
> There should be a local soup kitchen in their town.
>
> >         Bob Pigford
> >
> > > The other thing that really annoys me on that list is the attitude of
> > > "commercial developers only want profit and try to steal our money".
> > > Frankly, I don't think that any of the existing companies that support
> > > the 200LX would still exist if it were for profit. Companies like
> > > Thaddeus, 1SPS, or D&A are driven by enthusiasm for a great platform.
> > > So I will not participate in any discussions regarding prices. At best,
> > > they will chase me away from that list again.
> >
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How about also, HP-41 and HP-42?

Jeff Malka wrote:

> Is there an emulation of the HP 48 that works on the 200 LX?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Subject:      Re: HP100LX manual

Thaddeus might have them. I think they sell manuals for about
15 dollars.


Philippe Lewis writes:
> Does anyone have a 100LX manual or a lotus 1-2-3 manual lying around
> somewhere that they would be willing to sell? Or is the 1-2-3 manual
> somewhere in softcopy?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Philippe :)
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> There was a nice fast little database program called Reflex which will run on an XT, has a small footprint (approx 100k), and will import/export to csv format. Borland created it. It is from the mid-1980s so may be available as copyrighted freeware (a
> la Data Perfect).
>


As long as all of this database discussion, I'm still looking at a shelf
that has Personal R:Base on it.  Anyone recall that one.  I think I
remember not liking its too refined interface - I was an old dbaseII
type of guy!!!!

I wonder if it runs on a 200???

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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:54:32 -0400
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There is a DOS emulator called EMU48.  You must legally own an HP48 to
use it.  It requires you to download the ROM from your HP48 in order to
operate.  I have used it in the past on a PC and it works well. I've
never tried to put it on my 200lx though.  I own two HP48's.

You can find EMU48 and ALL kinds of '48 software at www.hpcalc.org

Dave Zelkowski

Jeff Malka wrote:
>
> Is there an emulation of the HP 48 that works on the 200 LX?
>
> Thanks.
>
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I think this emu48 for DOS need at least a 386 to run. I'd tried it on my
desktop, and got a gerenal protection fault msg, don't know why.
Haven't tried it on my 200LX.

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In a message dated 4/8/99 3:56:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM writes:

<<  never mind, forget all this, just let them put their eight hours in for
free.
 There should be a local soup kitchen in their town. >>


I am sitting here thinking of them sitting in the soup kitchen with the
200LX's playing solitare..... somehow it doesn't fit together.

Cathy

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:39:53 +0930
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Bill Childers writes:
> Rod, MICQ is already out there... it's WATTCP compliant.  Dave Sargeant
> and I used it yesterday.

BTW, I just got the micq source code from the author.  So if there's
anything that doesn't work right on the HP, then we can probably fix
it and send him the changes.  Looks like he's sending in the dos
changes to the main micq author as well, so the dos support should
continue.

It also has some initial code for a WatTCP TSR, so maybe that dream of
a network TSR is a little closer.

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> David
> I downloaded Dataperfect but it doesn't seem like it's a complete
version. The
> only files I have are
> data.msg
> dp.exe
> dp.sys
> dp26c.exe
> dpexp.com
> dpimp.com
> mcreate.com
> ste-mgr.com
> When I run the program it states that there are no files to import and
there
> isn't even a help file. I searched the entire Dataperfect site and
downloaded
> whatever was there.
> Tony

DP.EXE is the DataPerfect program, you only need that and DP.SYS to run
Press F3 for help.

The other files are external utilities for import/export/upgrade/etc...

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:20:30 -0400
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              "Thomas A. Frank" <tfrank9@IDT.NET>
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Hello All;

Ah, a subject I can give good advice on.

Check out:

http://www.dxshop.com/_shop/home.mhtml?shop=casetech

They are a Canadian company that makes the nicest HARD leather case for the
LX I have ever seen.

The model I bought was the 207-HP200LX.  It is a perfect fit for the
computer, snug even.  The leather is very similar to holster leather, so it
should last virtually forever.  The case holds the computer tight enough
that if you drop it in the case (with the lid snapped closed), the impact
comes across as a shock load instead of cracking the plastic of the
computer.  Mine has protected my computer several times.

Very nice, and at $50 canadian, with the exchange rate to USD, it worked
out to about $40 with the shipping when I got it.

I have no connection to the company, other than as a happy customer.

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Hello all HPLX'S:
I know all of you think I Am out of my mind,but I am selling my HP200LX
5 MB Just
upgraded by Thaddeus Computing in FEB 9,1999 It's in excellent condition
with
four (4) 1350 Mah Nickel Metal Hydride batteries and ABC/LX bATTERY
Monitoring
Software for $375.00.

The reason I can see the text better at 40 col x 16 rows (240 x 128
dots) on my
HP95LX. The HP200LX is 80 col x 25 rows (640 x 200 dots) little to small
for me.

                               Let Me Know People

                                      Bob1

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:29:49 GMT
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Spelling poem.



Eye halve a spelling chequer

It came with my pea sea

It plainly Marx four my revue

Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.



Aye strike a key and type a word

And weight fore it to say

Weather eye am wrong oar write

It shows me strait a weigh.



As soon as a mist ache is maid

It nose bee fore two long

And eye can put the error rite

Its rarely ever wrong.



Eye have run this poem threw it

I am shore your pleased too no

Its letter perfect in it=92s weigh

My chequer tolled me sew.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:13:45 +0100
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Rod Whitby wrote:
> That's true.  BTW, when designing the WWW/LX API, did you look at the
> Tumpet ABI for TCP/IP on DOS.

Does that exist? Never heard about that.

> Have you considered releasing an ethernet-only WWWLX.EXE ?

We are discussing releasing special versions of WWW/LX with or w/o
support for Ethernet, IrDA, Debugging etc. Problem is that there are so
many combinations. Also I assume that Ethernet-only is the least
demanded version.

> > What are these utilities?
>
> LXNNTP (to connect to new.hplx.net daily through a firewall that only
> allows telnet connections to ports above 1024), an FTP server (to
> allow machines to FTP _to_ the palmtop and transfer files - used daily
> to mirror any changed files from the palmtop to the Unix desktop using
> the standard perl FTP site mirroring software), a ping responder (so
> the script on Unix can find out when the palmtop has come online and
> can automatically start the backup).  In the future: an ICQ client to
> find out when colleagues are online, a WWW server on the palmtop, etc.

NNTP: in NEWS/LX you can select the port it should connect to
PING: WWW/LX responds to PING requests since the very first release
Servers: funny applications for a palmtop, but interesting of course.
For backing up the palmtop: why not doing it the other way, i.e. using
the palmtop as client.
IRC: well...

> load up before software carousel, and that is aware of when I plug a
> modem or ethernet card in the socket,

I would really love if the driver I use with the Accton card did not
need to be reloaded when the card is changed :-(

> We have the technology and expertise to do all this

But I doubt we have the space for doing all this. The 186 can only
access 1 meg and Gates reduced that to 640k maximum. This is sufficient
for most stuff, but not at the same time.

Andreas

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 02:48:39 -0400
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              James Scheffler <srakkt@TIAC.NET>
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Subject:      Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx
Comments: To: Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Well, how about someone get in touch with the author of TinyFugue (a UNIX
MU* client which can be configured to negotiate IRC as well) and see about
a DOS port?  It may be too big, though.

At 02:08 PM 04/07/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>So Avi, how about asking the people on the list if they would be willing to
>pay for an IRC client (or any other client), and how much? This way you
>would get the general idea and be able to make a more informed decision.
>
>Philippe :)
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
>To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 12:15 AM
>Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx
>
>
>> > > Correct. We do not have a CHAT client. It was looked at and
>> > > we felt it was a lot of work, and that we could not
>> > > recapture the expense of it. So we did not develop it. We
>> >
>> > It sure would be nice (hint, hint, hint) to have a IRC client that was a
>> > PAL application for use on the LX. I use ircII a lot but a PAL
>> > application sure would be slick!
>>
>> I am sure this will look familiar - :) ...
>>
>> It was looked at and we felt it was a lot of work, and
>> that we could not recapture the expense of it. So we did
>> not develop it.
>>
>> Slick is good. But when I have to pay people to support
>> slick which I sold for $2.99 or less, I think I'll pass! :)
>> I am sure you see the point. I suspect I would be tarred
>> and feathered by our bargain hunters here if an IRC client
>> was offered at $35 or $50 a pop. But before you all jump
>> down my throat, you must first "walk a mile in my shoes" as
>> was wiasely suggested by someone here. I suggested before
>> that we can probably cooperate with someone who would step
>> up to the plate with a serious plan, but no one did.
>>
>>   Avi M. D&A
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Dan,

> >Just because we can make
> >little atom bombs doesn't make it feasible to have atom-powered cars.
>
> Now thats a scary thought.

I can almost live with that fear. Where I really go into
panic is the notion that these cars (and perhaps the atomic
piles in them) are WinCE controlled! :(

_That_ gives me the wheelies...

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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:37:49 -0700
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Bob,

> Maybe these folks have to make a living, i.e., eat, etc. Maybe I am missing
> something, but I thought that was the idea of a business.
>
> Maybe these guys, Thaddeus, D&A, etc. could get some government funding for their
> business -- either Federal, State or a large corporation that resembles
> government. Then the folks as Thaddeus, D&A, etc. could go out and get a
> government job and make a living, i.e., eat, and perhaps have an eight hour work
> day, paid vacation, large bank accounts all funded by my tax dollars.
>
> Aw, never mind, forget all this, just let them put their eight hours in for free.
> There should be a local soup kitchen in their town.

It is easier! We get out bbefore we go broke, if that point
comes. Then we buy an IBM PC110 (I just got one the other
day) and we run Microsoft stuff on it, and kiss off the HP
200LX and the community that could not get their wits to
support the platform :) ....

But when I get out of this I know a nice cool mountain to
go live on, with breathtkaing vistas, nice people around
me, uncomplicated lifestyle, less email, less Windows
Bloat... Life could be nice.

Then again a good government job would be nice too - I
looked at one recently in Oregon - I could not believe the
money they were paying, it was right up my alley, and it is
a job for the State of Oregon, I mean a government job... I
really had to control myself, take a shower and go answer
email... :)

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:37:43 -0700
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John,

> different architecture is a pretty optimisitic proposition, given how most
> of us are such tightwads (as Avi and Hal can attest to) <g>.

I think that each of us has to make the micro-economic
decision based on the individual need and means. This is
not necessarily being a tightwad in a negative sense, just
a personal decision.

When you take these many personal decisions as an
aggregate, you have a complete view of what is realistic to
do in the market. Thei is "the Voice of the Market".

The rest is simply coupling the message from the market
with the "beancounting" work of what it takes to bring this
to market, and the expected return, and all that and the
answer is very simple - do it or not do it.

In all honesty, I would be interested in an IRC because it
is fun (for about an hour), but I would not pay for it
enough to make me want to take such an app to the market :)

  Avi M. D&A

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On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> Servers: funny applications for a palmtop, but interesting of course.
> For backing up the palmtop: why not doing it the other way, i.e. using
> the palmtop as client.

I believe the advantage is that, when running an FTP server on the
palmtop, you can use the mirror package to make a complete backup easily.
No such client exists (yet? <g>) for the palmtop.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:11:02 +0200
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Subject:      Re: GOOD BY HP200LX HELLO HP95LX
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, bob1 wrote:

Bob1, before you do something rash ;-) you may consider this:

> The reason I can see the text better at 40 col x 16 rows (240 x 128
> dots) on my
> HP95LX. The HP200LX is 80 col x 25 rows (640 x 200 dots) little to small
> for me.

On the 200LX, you can alter the size of the text by using the zoom modes.
Just press Fn+SPACE. One of the modes is quite similar to the one on the
95LX and may be what you want.

There are also custom fonts for the 200LX that can make the screen much
more readable.

Cheers,

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:26:09 +0200
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              Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR
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>>never mind, forget all this, just let them put their eight hours in
>>for free. There should be a local soup kitchen in their town. >>

Cathy wrote:
>I am sitting here thinking of them sitting in the soup kitchen with the
>200LX's playing solitare..... somehow it doesn't fit together.

Wouldn't they be running DIET or GARLIC?

And I suppose after Jeff had locked up Mack he'd be running FREECELL?

 and this thread could run and run...

Sorry!
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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:45:06 GMT
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Hi,

is there anyone who wants to sell his license and copy
of (used) Software Carousel (latest version)?

GTX
daniel

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Germany
email: d.hertrich@gmx.de
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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:35:23 +0200
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              Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR
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There has been a lot of discussion about high-brightness/efficiency LEDs
for screen illumination - but have there been similar advances in infrared
LEDs recently?  If we could replace the IR transmitter LED so that we could
use the TV remote control software from more than 3 feet away, that might
be a useful upgrade...
TIA to all up-to-date component engineers,
Jez

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 02:51:34 -0500
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              Orin Keplinger <orink@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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John:

I'm not aware of anything with 200lx, but both HP and TI had  excellent
newsletters and program cards devised by users for The TI 52 and the HP
35/55 and maybe the HP 48 and later models. Also, Chemical Engineering News
had a calculator column that was very useful. My information is all circa
1974-1990. I haven't checked lately.
Orin

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> From: John Musielewicz <a123456@bitstream.net>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Science formulas for solver--number limits
> Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 10:20 AM
>
> Hello everyone
>
> Does anyone know if there are databases of science equations
> for solver floating around anywhere? Maybe something that
> someone has used to calculate the momentum of photons, rocket
> thrust--that sort of thing. Also does anyone know the maximum
> number size that can be used in solver? Thanks
>
> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
>

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:25:41 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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> I believe the advantage is that, when running an FTP server on the
> palmtop, you can use the mirror package to make a complete backup easily.
> No such client exists (yet? <g>) for the palmtop.

I see. An alternative using existing tools for WWW/LX could be a
ROBOT/LX script that collects a list of all files on the palmtop that
have changed (DOS call to DIR with corresponnding parameters) and then
run ftp put commands for each of those files. Should be fairly simple
to write.

Andreas

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:17:02 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Anyone wants to sell his SC?

Do I get to make a profit?<g> Sorry just couldn't resist, I can't
sell my palmtop
copy but I do have an old DOS copy. I got it to install on
my desktop but I switched to Dr-DOS which has built-in
task switching and multitasking so I don't need it.
Would you be interested in that?

Daniel Hertrich writes:
> Hi,
>
> is there anyone who wants to sell his license and copy
> of (used) Software Carousel (latest version)?
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
> -------------------------------------------------
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> Germany
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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:18:41 +0200
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Soup kitchen

Jez Cunningham writes:
> >>never mind, forget all this, just let them put their eight hours in
> >>for free. There should be a local soup kitchen in their town. >>
>
> Cathy wrote:
> >I am sitting here thinking of them sitting in the soup kitchen with the
> >200LX's playing solitare..... somehow it doesn't fit together.
>
> Wouldn't they be running DIET or GARLIC?

Maybe with a little JAM throwen in?<g> Couldn't resist<g>

>
> And I suppose after Jeff had locked up Mack he'd be running FREECELL?
>
>  and this thread could run and run...
>
> Sorry!
> Jez
>
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Hi-efficiency LEDs - for IR?

Jez Cunningham writes:
> There has been a lot of discussion about high-brightness/efficiency LEDs
> for screen illumination - but have there been similar advances in infrared
> LEDs recently?  If we could replace the IR transmitter LED so that we could
> use the TV remote control software from more than 3 feet away, that might
> be a useful upgrade...

The IR uses a differant type of LED.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:26:53 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Science formulas for solver--number limits
Comments: To: Orin Keplinger <orink@ix.netcom.com>

Thank you Orin!

Would you know how I could go about getting these newsletters?

John

Orin Keplinger writes:
> John:
>
> I'm not aware of anything with 200lx, but both HP and TI had  excellent
> newsletters and program cards devised by users for The TI 52 and the HP
> 35/55 and maybe the HP 48 and later models. Also, Chemical Engineering News
> had a calculator column that was very useful. My information is all circa
> 1974-1990. I haven't checked lately.
> Orin
>
> ----------
> > From: John Musielewicz <a123456@bitstream.net>
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject: Science formulas for solver--number limits
> > Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 10:20 AM
> >
> > Hello everyone
> >
> > Does anyone know if there are databases of science equations
> > for solver floating around anywhere? Maybe something that
> > someone has used to calculate the momentum of photons, rocket
> > thrust--that sort of thing. Also does anyone know the maximum
> > number size that can be used in solver? Thanks
> >
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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 02:20:57 -0700
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Recently we posted an updated version of WWW.EXE and one of
several benefits is that Ricochet modems work fine now.

I sent personal emails to some of you who have expressed
interest in the subject.

So first: Well? Did you all try it and did it a) work, b)
not work c) just sat there laughing and telling great jokes
so I don't care if it worked or not...

Second item: I want to let you know that I have a press
release that states that as of April 6 several parts of
Brooklyn and Manhattan are covered by Ricochet. This adds
to the coverage in the La Guardia airport, and someone said
Also down to New Jersey's Newark. See
http://www.ricochet.net/news/news990406.html.

Let's see: NYC coverage - NY City hall, Financial District,
Times Square, Theatre district, and parts of Brooklyn
Metrotech area. They have a specific area description:

Manhattan:

-- Midtown/Time Sq (from 39th st. north to Central Park
South, from FDR Drive on the East to Ninth Ave.)

-- Downtoawn/Financial Dist (the entire southern tip of
Manhattan, from Park Pl/Chambers St. to Battery Park.)

Brooklyn:

-- Metrotech/Downtown (parts of Cobble Hill, Boerum Hill,
Park Slope)

-- Canarsie/E. Flatbush

-- Greenpoint

So I wanna know this: If they dropped the price of the
modem will you email to me that you want one and I can get
you some other better deal? :)

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 02:20:54 -0700
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This came to me in email tonight... I _did_ send a special
copy to Andreas - an early Birthday present... :)

Reminds me of Jewish curse: "May a terrible disease be
named after you!" :)

  Avi M. D&A

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Subject: MS

RE:     "MS" not a software company?

API: Rio Despico, CA -- Residents of Silicon Valley are more
confused than usual after a billboard campaign by the National
Multiple Sclerosis Society of America.

One of the ads uses the slogan "MS: It's not a software
company," exploiting the fame of that certain company to
draw attention  to an altogether worthier cause. Requests
to comment on the  campaign have been met by a surly
silence by Microsoft, which doesn't relish the association
of ideas.

Painfully aware that it can't afford to appear insensitive
 over such an issue, a Microsoft spokesman finally
breached the company's  former "no comment" policy,
stating, "I see no relationship whatsoever  between the
two acronyms... The MS Society seems to have thrown all
common sense out of a window with this campaign."

Off the record, a disgruntled Microsoft engineer told API
reporters that

Seasoned IT professionals will have no trouble telling the
two MS's apart.

One is a debilitating and surprisingly widespread
affliction  that renders the sufferer barely able to
perform the simplest task.

The other is a disease.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:30:51 PDT
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              David Cripps <david_cripps@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Dear all,

I just want to report on my sucess running Minix on the HP and thank
Mack Baggette for doing all the hard work for getting it working.

I downloaded the zip file from minix.hplx.net unzipped it to a jam'ed
20MB flash card, which gave 50MB of compressed storage.

From DOS I typed "Boot Minix.mnx" and the propeller heads in Unix
support are now dribbling with excitment! (I've just heard one of
them cry "there's is a C compiller - and it works!!"), another has
just added a  new users and a user group as I type!

I've also managed to load it under a session in Software Carousel
with a minix.bat file, unfortuantely  even loading SCKEYFIX.COM does
not enable me to switch SC sessions.

The problem I have now is how to exit Minix without rebooting the
machine, and how to switch between SC sessions.

All the best, I m now out to buy "UNIX for dummies"!

Dave Cripps


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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:16:22 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Minix on the Palmtop

> I just want to report on my sucess running Minix on the HP and

Cool!

> >From DOS I typed "Boot Minix.mnx" and the propeller heads in Unix
> support are now dribbling with excitment! (I've just heard one

I'll bet they were!

of
> them cry "there's is a C compiller - and it works!!"), another has
> just added a  new users and a user group as I type!
>
> I've also managed to load it under a session in Software Carousel
> with a minix.bat file, unfortuantely  even loading SCKEYFIX.COM does
> not enable me to switch SC sessions.
>
> The problem I have now is how to exit Minix without rebooting the

Can you use SCMENU to "kill" the SC session?

> machine, and how to switch between SC sessions.
>
> All the best, I m now out to buy "UNIX for dummies"!
>
> Dave Cripps
>
>
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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:26:48 -0700
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> Wouldn't they be running DIET or GARLIC?

Or a DOS port of a shopping cart? :) (I _can_ use a diet,
though...)

> And I suppose after Jeff had locked up Mack he'd be running FREECELL?

Nice one!!

>  and this thread could run and run...

Yep can become a run time litany... :(

Sorry too!

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:45:33 -0400
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I too have been playing with Minix, and it IS fun. But a question. Can
someone tell me how to make a smaller partition? Can I "shrink" the
existing one? I really want to get it over to the palmtop - but don't
have the full 40 meg free.

Thanks!

Larry Feldman

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:23:37 -0400
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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> Date:    Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:00:21 -0700
> From:    David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
> Subject: Re: Microsoft strikes on Ebay ???
>
> On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Stan Peters wrote:
>
> > I know it is of questionable legality to buy "preowned"
software. My
> > opinion is that if you are selling the CD plus supporting
material, it
> > should be OK.
>
> I don't think it's of questionable legality.  In fact, I
believe that
> selling the software is specifically allowed in the licenses of
most
> software.  Of course, if you keep a copy, then you're
illegal...
>
That includes a copy of the later version you upgraded to. If you
do an _upgrade_, instead of an outright new buy, you're *NOT* OK
selling the older version. Upgrading transfers your license from
the old to the new version, so you don't have any license for the
old one to do *anything* with except skeet shooting :{)#
The only way you could *legally* sell a copy of an old package is
if you discontinued all use of it, and destroyed all other copies
in your possession.

Jon
Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)

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>
> Date:    Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:00:51 -0500
> From:    "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
> Subject: Re: A more powerful "200lx"
>
> Following article quoted from the NYTimes web site without
permission...:

Uh-Oh! Get out the cuffs, Jeff!!!

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:31:24 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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From:         "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      FS or Trade: 200LX 32MB Double Speed
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Hey folks,

It's time for me to have one of those new Garmin GPS III+. Sadly, my backup
200LX will have to go so my wife will allow it. If you have a III+ with the map
CD-ROM and would like to trade even, just email me and we'll get it done.

If you are interested in purchasing the 200LX, I want $475 for it. Both speed
and memory upgrades were done by Mack at Times2Tech. It is in excellent
condition. The motherboard is a 1MB even though the case says "2MB RAM".

Again, email me directly.
--
Mitch
SUPER Team

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:33:56 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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www.thaddeus.com seems to be either down or very slow. This will effect page
loading at palmtop.net (due to their banner ads loading from their server) and
will also effect direct-click file downloading as the files are on one of their
servers. Most, but not all, of the SUPER files still reside at ftp.palmtop.net
so if you MUST have something it is probably there.
--
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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:15:06 -0400
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Fri,  9 Apr 1999 09:58:07 -0500 (EST)

Greetings fellow X-Finder freaks  8-)

Just found a new version of X-Finder on the Vector site.  Bad news is
that it's incompatible with our finder.env and it's about 5K larger.
Tried it on my 200 and crashed (needed hard reboot).  Looked through
the files again, and noticed that the /Palmtop screen setup isn't in
the .env file -- there's a palmtop.lzh file.

Anyway, I tried installing it again (this time on the spare palmtop),
and found some cool new stuff.  It now has the ability to use a split
screen display, sort of like Filer (or STS).  GUI on the left, text on
the right.  (Maybe this can be changed).  Should be more convenient for
moving and copying files.  Not sure what other surprises it may have
(docs are Japanese, of course), but I'll play around and try to find
out.

Later

-Peniel
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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:39:10 -0400
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              systemsconsulting@CSI.COM
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Subject:      Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook(CPU Speed)
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Landmark 2.00 is a commercial, paid for, program. I just happen to own it.

This was sold by Landmark Software, now owned by ForeFront. I don't know if
you can still buy it, but I wouldn't expect that it's Abandonware.



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
Maximizing the results of Information Systems

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> mailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of Philippe Lewis
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 6:56 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook(CPU Speed)
>
>
> Where's the Landmark benchmark program?
>
> Philippe :)
>

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Jon Barrett wrote:
>
<snip of earlier>
>
> That includes a copy of the later version you upgraded to. If you
> do an _upgrade_, instead of an outright new buy, you're *NOT* OK
> selling the older version. Upgrading transfers your license from
> the old to the new version, so you don't have any license for the
> old one to do *anything* with except skeet shooting :{)#
> The only way you could *legally* sell a copy of an old package is
> if you discontinued all use of it, and destroyed all other copies
> in your possession.
>
> Jon
> Jon Barrett
>

Including, I think, _all_ copies on any backup medium that you happen
to possess.

Can you imagine _anyone_ re-writing all of thier ancient backups
to remove something?

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300 $ or trade a 360 LX +10 mo card + 28800 modem
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
=C0 : HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date : vendredi 9 avril 1999 15:36
Objet : FS or Trade: 200LX 32MB Double Speed


>Hey folks,
>
>It's time for me to have one of those new Garmin GPS III+. Sadly, my bac=
kup
>200LX will have to go so my wife will allow it. If you have a III+ with =
the
map
>CD-ROM and would like to trade even, just email me and we'll get it done.
>
>If you are interested in purchasing the 200LX, I want $475 for it. Both
speed
>and memory upgrades were done by Mack at Times2Tech. It is in excellent
>condition. The motherboard is a 1MB even though the case says "2MB RAM".
>
>Again, email me directly.
>--
>Mitch
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> But I doubt we have the space for doing all this. The 186 can only
> access 1 meg and Gates reduced that to 640k maximum. This is sufficient
> for most stuff, but not at the same time.

Actually, I think most folks forget about the fact that you can run TSR's
from EMS as well. All you need do is install some stub code in lower memory
that swaps in the pages that contain the TSR code, call that code using the
proper EMS function, and then once you return to the stub code then restore
the page map.

Of course the biggest program you could run would be 128k with the current
version that I am testing and 64k with the public version, but that should
be sufficient for a large number of TSR type apps such as what is being
discussed here.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:25:28 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> I too have been playing with Minix, and it IS fun. But a question. Can
> someone tell me how to make a smaller partition? Can I "shrink" the
> existing one? I really want to get it over to the palmtop - but don't
> have the full 40 meg free.

Below is a link that has a good bit more info about MINIX:

ftp://ftp.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/2.0.2/index.html

Cheers,
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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:32:41 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> Actually, I think most folks forget about the fact that you can run TSR's
> that swaps in the pages that contain the TSR code, call that code using
the
> proper EMS function, and then once you return to the stub code then
restore
> the page map.

I don't know what happened to the 2nd line of my message, but the paragraph
above should read:

Actually, I think most folks forget about the fact that you can run TSR's
from EMS as well. All you need do is install some stub code in lower memory
that swaps in the pages that contain the TSR code, call that code using the
proper EMS function, and then once you return to the stub code then restore
the page map.

Cheers,
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Subject:      Re: Minix on the palmtop!
Comments: To: Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:32:25 -0500, you wrote:

>I was finally able to get MINIX going on the palmtop a few weeks ago and am
>currently working with David Sargeant on finding a home for the rather large
>zip file.

Too cool, hope to see it somewhere soon...  About how large is the
installation?  I only have a 8M machine, but would like to at least
see it once.. :)

>Someone should be able to make a smaller partition to have MINIX on without
>the source code, etc. as I haven't done that.  It works fine from the C:
>drive or from flash, so that should be a problem.

I need to get myself a CF card some day, I'd love to upgrade to 32M
but with my hinge crack I don't think I will..  :(

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:27:59 +0200
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hi experts!

i have been using the emm200 driver for a long time, but it does not work
any more since i upgraded my unit to 5mb. i suspect that the driver is
written for a paging file on a 12 bit FAT system, but the FAT of the now
larger disk is 16 bit.

are any upgraded versions out there? is anyone successfully using EMS on
a 4 or 5 mb unit?

tell me what you kmow

alan

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:47:33 +0800
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Does anyone know if there is any software out there to fool other software
that the 200lx is capable of being in a VGA mode?

    Thanks,
    Louis Di Fazio

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> a job for the State of Oregon, I mean a government job... I
> really had to control myself, take a shower and go answer

Move to Oregon and the shower is right out the door!!!

Signed: One who knows from Seattle!!!!

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Bill Childers wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote:
>
> > Could be one of IBM's CompactDrives.  A 340MB hard drive in CompactFlash
> > Type II (twice as thick as your average CF card) size... Hal and I saw
> > those at Comdex, although I haven't seen anything about them since...
>
> They're in production right now.  (According to the people I know at IBM.)
>
> Bill Childers
> South Valley Consulting
>

No way of using these on the hp200 is it? Or am I mistaken?

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> > > Could be one of IBM's CompactDrives.  A 340MB hard drive in CompactF=
lash
> > > Type II (twice as thick as your average CF card) size... Hal and I =
saw
> > > those at Comdex, although I haven't seen anything about them =
since...
>
> No way of using these on the hp200 is it? Or am I mistaken?

Doubtful.  Current consumption is probably going to be a problem.  I
doubt that it will draw under the 150ma required by the PC Card slot.
Standard PCMCIA drives draw around 600ma... this will probably have
power consumption of around 300ma or so.  Spinning any kind of
platter/motor combination takes quite a bit of current!  Flash disks
are the way to go in a handheld, IMHO.

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting    Gilroy, CA
-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, Ethernet, WWW/LX, and ISDN.  A rocket-powered
skateboard on the Information Superhighway! --

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:55:37 +0200
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Bob1 wrote; >> The reason I can see the text better at 40
col x 16 rows (240 x 128 dots) on my HP95LX. The HP200LX is
80 col x 25 rows (640 x 200 dots) little to small for me.>>

Athough there are some great improvements in the 200lx, which
I now own, there are things which I preferred on my 95LX:

1. In phone you just pressed 'only' and typed in 'John', for
example,  and instantly all the records with John would
appear. On the 200lx I first have to define a subset and then it
still takes a while before they appear.

2. In solver the equation editor didn't add a space
when the line wrapped, now in the 200lx it does it rather
annoyingly.

3. Generally, all searches were much quicker in the 95lx.

Anyone want to add to the list?

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On Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:15:06 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> =
wrote:

> Greetings fellow X-Finder freaks  8-)
>
> Just found a new version of X-Finder on the Vector site.  Bad news is
> that it's incompatible with our finder.env and it's about 5K larger.
> Tried it on my 200 and crashed (needed hard reboot).  Looked through
> the files again, and noticed that the /Palmtop screen setup isn't in
> the .env file -- there's a palmtop.lzh file.

Great find! Whats the URL?
also confirming it now uses a .lzh file instead of a .env?


Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
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Subject:      Minix on the palmtop

Just tried it. 'wow!' is the first word that comes to mind. Now all we have
to do is get it working with the Accton card... If that happens, this will
really kick ass!

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<<Could you elaborate? Are you saying I can free up some conveentional
memory by loading my TSRs in EMS? WOW!!! This would be fantastic! How?>>

No, actually I am saying that TSRs can be written to utilize EMM for code
and data. I did see a product a long time ago that could load certain TSRs
that it knew about like Sidekick into EMM, but I don't remember what it was
called.  Unfortunately it wasn't generic.

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Fri,  9 Apr 1999 14:48:29 -0400 (EDT)

01h13m32s ago ...
On Fri,  9 Apr 1999, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> Great find! Whats the URL?
> also confirming it now uses a .lzh file instead of a .env?

Hi Qman -

The URL is:
http://www.vector.co.jp/pack/dos/util/machine/hp/
The file is finder.lzh  (dated 3/26/99)

No, it doesn't use a .lzh instead of .env   It uses a .env that's
different from the version we're using.  The .env doesn't have all the
%d lines to set up the /Palmtop screen.  There's a palmtop.lzh that
gets expanded into c:\palmtop - and this has the opening screen setup.
The command format is completely different from our current version.
I'm not sure I see the logic behind this change.  Each item for the
/Palmtop screen is a separate file in c:\palmtop.  At 512 bytes disk
space per item (typically 3 - 15 bytes each), the disk usage isn't
particularly efficient.  But with big c: drives I guess it doesn't
really matter.

The split screen feature is cool, though.  Does make it simpler to copy
or move stuff...

I'm just getting started playing around with this, so I'm sure there's
lots of good stuff I'm missing.

Let me know what you figure out.

Later

-Peniel
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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:37:18 -0700
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Well, whatever the led is being used right now, is there a more powerful
version out there?

Hey, doesn't that relate somehow to the thread about the serial LED-lite
we've been talking about all this time? What if instead of a bright led to
illuminate the screen, you had an infrared LED capable of acting like a
remote control LED? Hey, how about both in the same package? And wouldn't it
be possible to write a little program to pulse the commands out of the
serial port?

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-efficiency LEDs - for IR?


> Jez Cunningham writes:
> > There has been a lot of discussion about high-brightness/efficiency LEDs
> > for screen illumination - but have there been similar advances in
infrared
> > LEDs recently?  If we could replace the IR transmitter LED so that we
could
> > use the TV remote control software from more than 3 feet away, that
might
> > be a useful upgrade...
>
> The IR uses a differant type of LED.
>
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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:02:21 +0000
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              Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM>
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Hey Everybody -

I have written a new System Manager compliant program using the LXAPI
files and the SDK from Thaddeus. I have uploaded it to SUPER for your
perusal. I am pleased with the product. I liked InfoSelect, but thought
that I could make something with almost as much capability in the
System Manager interface. My goals were:

1. InfoSelect type of functionality, though Y2K compliant.
2. Small program size (Currently < 14K).
3. Familiar Interface.

I think I have succeeded in each of these areas. The program will
search for strings, doing on the fly searches of each note, and
display all the notes that match a particular string. It will
search for a particular date, or a date range, with the "date" of a
note being annotated with two astericks (**19-Mar-99). You can do
logical searches through successive application of the Search
Function: If you wanted all the notes that had Chevy & Porsche, but
not Corvair, you can do so. You can import files into a note, and
export a note to a file. Cut, Paste, Copy, Date, Time, and Zoom all
work within the editor. You can search for a given string within a
note while you are editing it. Notes can be up to 32K in size, though
I will admit that by using the built in multi line editor function,
this gets slow once the note gets above 5K or so. To mitigate this, I
provide a simple interface to Memo as well. You can have up to 250
entries per file, with 400 lines of text maximum in each note. You can
have as many different files as you like.

FFDB.ZIP (on SUPER) has the following:
FFDB.EXM - the program
FFDB.HLP - The help file for the program (goes in c:\_dat)
DEMO.FDB - a short demonstration database to further show how to
use the program.

I would like to thank Jorgen Walgren and James Grenert of the HPLX list
for providing me with excellent ideas and feedback. The program is much
more useful thanks to their input.

If you have tried InfoSelect, or Scraps, or something along those lines
and it didn't seem quite right for the HPLX, I recommend FFDB to you for =
your
review. I hope you find it useful.

When I originally posted it, I had asked for a $20 shareware fee. Mitch =
recommended $10, so I updated the file and reposted it. If you decide to =
register, the fee is $10 - I apologize for the "head fake" on the initial =
posting.

Brian McIlvaine

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:38:52 EST
Reply-To:     tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: IBM Compact HD

> >
> > > Could be one of IBM's CompactDrives.  A 340MB hard drive in CompactFlash
> > > Type II (twice as thick as your average CF card) size... Hal and I saw
> > > those at Comdex, although I haven't seen anything about them since...
> >
> > They're in production right now.  (According to the people I know at IBM.)
> >
> > Bill Childers
> > South Valley Consulting
> >
>
> No way of using these on the hp200 is it? Or am I mistaken?
>
> --
> Med vennlig hilsen/Regards

They should work just fine in a type II pcmcia adaptor, they look
just like a big flash card (ATA). The only problem with the HP might
be power, I don't know what the current draw for the CF HD is.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:21:09 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Wireless HPLX? Check this out.

http://www.onsale.com/category/inv/00000575/01700791.htm


It's a 900MHZ modem extender thingy for 9 bux. Probably more before the
auction is over.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:30:20 -0500
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              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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Subject:      Re: FFDB - A new EXM Program for HPLX
Comments: To: Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM>
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Brian

I wish you hadn't posted this!<g>

I am a long time IS (basic and not power) user, and the mention of an
almost equivalent, System Manager compliant, program got me excited. I had
set aside this afternoon to clean my home office of its piles of paper, but
I had to stop what I was doing, download the program, and install it on my HP.

I took a quick look and you will be getting my registration.

It is great to be able to cut and paste between built in apps, and use them
in a more integrated way than I can do currently with IS.

Two questions...I like using IS with lots of windows showing, rather than
lots of single lines as the demo.fdb file uses. I typically have many IS
windows with a little info in each. Is there any way to change the display
format? (I have to admit that I didn't check the help file as yet).

Secondly, I installed the program on my flashcard in a FFDB directory. I
tried accessing the help file and the program appears to require it to be
in the c:\_dat directory. Is that correct? Is the directory modifiable?

Thanks again for putting in the time to write the program. It is one more
reason to save some money to finally upgrade my HP100 1 meg to a more up to
date unit.

Alan



At 08:02 PM 4/9/99 +0000, you wrote:
>Hey Everybody -
>
>I have written a new System Manager compliant program using the LXAPI
>files and the SDK from Thaddeus. I have uploaded it to SUPER for your
>perusal. I am pleased with the product. I liked InfoSelect, but thought
>that I could make something with almost as much capability in the
>System Manager interface. My goals were:
>
>1. InfoSelect type of functionality, though Y2K compliant.
>2. Small program size (Currently < 14K).
>3. Familiar Interface.
>
>I think I have succeeded in each of these areas. The program will
>search for strings, doing on the fly searches of each note, and
>display all the notes that match a particular string. It will
>search for a particular date, or a date range, with the "date" of a
>note being annotated with two astericks (**19-Mar-99). You can do
>logical searches through successive application of the Search
>Function: If you wanted all the notes that had Chevy & Porsche, but
>not Corvair, you can do so. You can import files into a note, and
>export a note to a file. Cut, Paste, Copy, Date, Time, and Zoom all
>work within the editor. You can search for a given string within a
>note while you are editing it. Notes can be up to 32K in size, though
>I will admit that by using the built in multi line editor function,
>this gets slow once the note gets above 5K or so. To mitigate this, I
>provide a simple interface to Memo as well. You can have up to 250
>entries per file, with 400 lines of text maximum in each note. You can
>have as many different files as you like.
>
>FFDB.ZIP (on SUPER) has the following:
>FFDB.EXM - the program
>FFDB.HLP - The help file for the program (goes in c:\_dat)
>DEMO.FDB - a short demonstration database to further show how to
>use the program.
>
>I would like to thank Jorgen Walgren and James Grenert of the HPLX list
>for providing me with excellent ideas and feedback. The program is much
>more useful thanks to their input.
>
>If you have tried InfoSelect, or Scraps, or something along those lines
>and it didn't seem quite right for the HPLX, I recommend FFDB to you for your
>review. I hope you find it useful.
>
>When I originally posted it, I had asked for a $20 shareware fee. Mitch
>recommended $10, so I updated the file and reposted it. If you decide to
>register, the fee is $10 - I apologize for the "head fake" on the initial
>posting.
>
>Brian McIlvaine
>
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>

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 22:12:33 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> Recently we posted an updated version of WWW.EXE and one of
> several benefits is that Ricochet modems work fine now.
...
> So I wanna know this: If they dropped the price of the
> modem will you email to me that you want one and I can get
> you some other better deal? :)

Avi, I'm interested.  First tell me about Ricochet; is it a flat
rate per month? ...or per hour or minute?  Is there a max
connect time limit?  What is the connection speed.

I'm pretty sure they're available in the San Jose/SF South Bay
area.

Were you joking about getting a deal on a modem and connection?

Tell me more...
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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:48:00 -0500
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--
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(817) 797-4623 mobile/voicemail
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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:07:12 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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From:         "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: FS or Trade: 200LX 32MB Double Speed
Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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  BTW, you might want to check out these web pages for good prices on the
III+...

    http://www.thegpsstore.com/ga3p.htm
    http://www.cycoactive.com/gps/gpsiii.html
    http://www.skydiversdepot.com/gpsiiiplus.htm

    ... John L. Stanley

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) mailto:mitch@PALMTOP.NET
Sent: Friday, April 09, 1999 8:31 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: FS or Trade: 200LX 32MB Double Speed


Hey folks,

It's time for me to have one of those new Garmin GPS III+. Sadly, my backup
200LX will have to go so my wife will allow it. If you have a III+ with the
map
CD-ROM and would like to trade even, just email me and we'll get it done.

If you are interested in purchasing the 200LX, I want $475 for it. Both
speed
and memory upgrades were done by Mack at Times2Tech. It is in excellent
condition. The motherboard is a 1MB even though the case says "2MB RAM".

Again, email me directly.
--
Mitch
SUPER Team

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:09:22 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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  Opps...  Sorry folks.  That was suppost to go just to Mitch...

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:48:49 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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No problem here.  I like GPS and could use one with my HP too. :)

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stanley, John L. SMTP:JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM
>
>   Opps...  Sorry folks.  That was suppost to go just to Mitch...
>

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:35:50 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Calculator simulations

Hello

I went to www.hpcalc.org and found some emulators. The ones
for a HP 48 required a 486. There also was one for a
41 and a 25. They both at least will run on the LX. Don't know how
well the keyboaerd will work. Has anyone used either or the actual
calculator? Could you give a short description of them? The info
for the 41 is in what looks like Spanish. Thanks.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:41:06 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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Some problems I've noticed is that once I load DosMinix:
  1) The On button no longer turns off the palmtop.
  2) Ctrl-alt-del no longer reboots.
  3) The only way of exiting appears to be a hard reboot.
       (Ctrl-shift-On)

  Anyone have any suggestions?
  Anyone notice any other problems?

 --
John L. Stanley <JLStanley@addcoinc.com>
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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:12:09 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> Some problems I've noticed is that once I load DosMinix:
>   1) The On button no longer turns off the palmtop.
>   2) Ctrl-alt-del no longer reboots.
>   3) The only way of exiting appears to be a hard reboot.
>        (Ctrl-shift-On)
>
>   Anyone have any suggestions?
>   Anyone notice any other problems?

The version from http://minix.hplx.net handles all those things properly.  I
forgot to mention that the Minix for the LX only works on a 200LX so far, as
it makes a bios call that is moved around for different versions of the bios
and I have it working for only a couple of bios versions of the 200LX.

Cheers,
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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:42:16 +0930
Reply-To:     rwhitby@hplx.net
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx
Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>

Andreas Garzotto writes:
> Rod Whitby wrote:
> > That's true.  BTW, when designing the WWW/LX API, did you look at the
> > Tumpet ABI for TCP/IP on DOS.
>
> Does that exist? Never heard about that.

I'll try and dig up a URL for you.  I've got the hardcopy here in
front of me - it's a file named tcp201.txt titled "Preliminary
Specification for a TCP/IP Application Binary Inteface (ABI) to run
over MS-DOS.  It'll be under www.trumpet.com (or .org or something)
somewhere.  It's much like a packet driver (it even has a TCP_DRVR
interrupt validation marker) except at the TCP/IP level instead of the
Ethernet level.  The trumpet range of DOS internet apps all use the
same TSR for the TCP/IP stack - much the same idea as www.exe except
as a stand-alone TSR.

> NNTP: in NEWS/LX you can select the port it should connect to

The trouble is that the firewall requires a login-type authentication
in a telnet session before accepting another telnet command to get
outside.  I had to modify LXNNTP to do all this over the telnet
connection before piggy-backing the NNTP protocol over the existing
telnet connection.  It can't be done just by changing the destination
port, unfortunately.  A very weird and specific situation, but it could
luckily be solved because I could change the source code.

> Servers: funny applications for a palmtop, but interesting of course.
> For backing up the palmtop: why not doing it the other way, i.e. using
> the palmtop as client.

Mainly because the mirror perl script (which determines which files
should be mirrored) runs too slowly (if at all) on the palmtop.  This
is the standard mirror script that FTP sites like ftp.uu.net use to
keep ftp mirrors up to date.  I can also use it to preview web pages
stored on the palmtop but destined for my web site by accessing them
directly from the desktop web browser (ftp://hp200lx/c/www/index.htm).
The other reason is I can run Emacs on the Unix box, and edit files on
the palmtop directly through the Emacs ftp interface.  It's just like
connecting a keyboard and 17" monitor to the palmtop if all you're
doing is editing.  There are so many uses for FTP and HTTP connectivity
that we need to have servers for these protocols running on the palmtop.

> I would really love if the driver I use with the Accton card did not
> need to be reloaded when the card is changed :-(

Amen!  Does anyone know if we can get the source code to the japanese
Accton driver ?  I'm sure that Mack or Stefan would be able to modify
it to go into standby and reload when required (it sounds like a
combination of card.com from Stefan and the bios message killer from
Mack).

> > We have the technology and expertise to do all this
>
> But I doubt we have the space for doing all this. The 186 can only
> access 1 meg and Gates reduced that to 640k maximum. This is sufficient
> for most stuff, but not at the same time.

But with 640k in each carousel session, you can do a number of client
things by human multi-tasking.  Especially if you remove the GUIs ;-)

-- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation --
-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
-- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net <URL:http://rwhitby.hplx.net> --

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:55:06 +0930
Reply-To:     rwhitby@hplx.net
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx
Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>

Andreas Garzotto writes:
> I see. An alternative using existing tools for WWW/LX could be a
> ROBOT/LX script that collects a list of all files on the palmtop that
> have changed (DOS call to DIR with corresponnding parameters) and then
> run ftp put commands for each of those files. Should be fairly simple
> to write.

ROBOT/LX is a great program (I've often thought of a similar idea
applied to HTML forms so that you could interact with a stock market
query web page for instance).

The difference, however, is that it's difficult for ROBOT/LX running
on the palmtop to get the appropriate information about what files are
already on the desktop you are doing the incremental back up to today,
and then make the hard decisions about what files to transfer based on
all three of existence, date and attribute (read-only, hidden, system)
differences between the two sets of files.

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-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:49:19 +0930
Reply-To:     rwhitby@hplx.net
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx
Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@hplx.net>

David Sargeant writes:
> I believe the advantage is that, when running an FTP server on the
> palmtop, you can use the mirror package to make a complete backup easily.
> No such client exists (yet? <g>) for the palmtop.

Exactly!  And you can do separate incremental backups to both the work
network and home network, and each of the destinations identify which
files they need to keep up to date.  The idea is to just get the
palmtop FTP server to give up all the information (in the form of a
"ls -l" unix-style listing) and then do all the hard decisions on the
desktop machine.  In the future, a similar IMAP server on the palmtop
could allow you to synchronise the palmtop and desktop mailboxes by
doing all the difficult sync algorithms on the desktop.

The gee-whiz factor is also hard to beat - remember aceesing
ftp://buckcreek.palmtop.net/ from your Netscape browser :-)

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1999 22:47:51 -0400
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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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Subject:      USR Worldport Modem
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I have USRobotics World Port 14.4 Fax Modem for sale if anyone is
interested.  I used it with my 200lx before I got a PCMCIA modem.

$20.00 US + Shipping takes it.

Thanks

Sean

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Date:         Sat, 10 Apr 1999 01:11:53 +0000
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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Does DR-DOS permit cut & paste between programs loaded in sessions/windows?

At 03:17 AM 4/9/99 +0200, you wrote:
I switched to Dr-DOS which has built-in task switching and multitasking so
I don't need it.  Would you be interested in that?

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> Never heard of a cleaning cloth, at least, never used one !


does it not talk about pocketjet cleaning in the manual?

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It's a flat rate with no limit on connect time.  The avg speed is about
14.4.  See

http://www.ricochet.net/

Wayne

Russel Brooks wrote:

>
> Avi, I'm interested.  First tell me about Ricochet; is it a flat
> rate per month? ...or per hour or minute?  Is there a max
> connect time limit?  What is the connection speed.
> ...
>
> Tell me more...
> Russ
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i tried it out and found the program to be more magnificient than ever.

some goodies:

* sort order (%s) can be definded differently for every drive
* symbolic links (very much like win95). this is what you saw in the
palmtop.lzh archive. as archives are completely transparent to finder,
they can be kept in an archive without using up your scarce disk sectors
for 5 bytes.
you can define these links in the file menu.
* these symbolic links are a easy and convenient way to define menus.
just think of how this is done in win95. look at your \windows\startmenu
directory to understand.
* you can give long names, not only to files but also to directories.
imagine what this can do to menu design

give it a try


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Subject: new finder version


i tried it out and found the program to be more magnificient than ever.

some goodies:

* sort order (%s) can be definded differently for every drive
* symbolic links (very much like win95). this is what you saw in the
palmtop.lzh archive. as archives are completely transparent to finder,
they can be kept in an archive without using up your scarce disk sectors
for 5 bytes.
you can define these links in the file menu.
* these symbolic links are a easy and convenient way to define menus.
just think of how this is done in win95. look at your \windows\startmenu
directory to understand.
* you can give long names, not only to files but also to directories.
imagine what this can do to menu design

give it a try


ALAN KREMPLER alias alan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at

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David
Perhaps I'm missing something but I don't see any way to import a CSV file
into Dataperfect. I have just the dp.exe and dp.sys files and press F3 for
help but it's just not doing anything.
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Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:51:10 -0400 (EDT)

01h32m53s ago ...
On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, ALAN KREMPLER wrote:

> i tried it out and found the program to be more magnificient than ever.

Agreed!  8-)


> * sort order (%s) can be definded differently for every drive

Don't think so...   Tried lots of combinations of the %s parameter, and
found this:
(A) 0=3Dnormal sort order for /Palmtop  1=3Dreverse order
(B) Also for /Palmtop
        0=3DNo sort
        1=3Dname sort
        2=3Dtype
        3=3Dsize
        4=3Ddate
(C) and (D) do the same for drive screens


You can also control the split-screen display with the %w parameter.
(A) 0=3D/Palmtop screen not split  1=3Dsplit
(B) 0=3Dother screens not split    1=3Dsplit
(C) For /Palmtop screen:
        0=3Dicons
        1=3Dlist
        2=3Dlist (detail)
(D) and (E) For right and left screens.  Same specs as (C)

> * symbolic links (very much like win95). this is what you saw in the
> palmtop.lzh archive. as archives are completely transparent to finder,
> they can be kept in an archive without using up your scarce disk =
sectors
> for 5 bytes.

Yep, found this out last night.  Very cool.  Need to change %z
parameter from c:\palmtop to c:\palmtop.lzh

> you can define these links in the file menu.

How?  I've been trying to figure this out.  Could you explain please?

> * these symbolic links are a easy and convenient way to define menus.
> just think of how this is done in win95. look at your \windows\startmenu
> directory to understand.

Unfortunately, this doesn't help me much.  To quote the cleaning lady -
"I don't do windows"...

> * you can give long names, not only to files but also to directories.
> imagine what this can do to menu design

True, and very cool feature, but was also available on the previous
versions.

> give it a try

I'll drink to that!  8-)

Thanks.

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>
> > you can define these links in the file menu.
>
> How?  I've been trying to figure this out.  Could you explain please?

1. set your cusor on a file to define a link to and mark it (space key).
2. go to the directory where you wont to have the link placed to.
3. press CTRL- or select /File/Link... from the menu.

thats it. very much like copying.
this will do the following:
1. create a *.xff file which contains the
location of the link target as plain text and
2. modify (or create, if
necessary) the _.xfn file to give the link the name of the original file.

> > * you can give long names, not only to files but also to directories.
> > imagine what this can do to menu design
> True, and very cool feature, but was also available on the previous
> versions.

directories was new to me.

thank you for the split screen hints.

BTW, you can keep your old finder.env file
with your old palmtiop definitions, if you like.

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Quite awhile ago I posted the question "Does anyone have the documentation
for the underlying data structure for the HP200LX calendar file?"  The wise
response I got was, use CPACK.  It's developed, debugged, and reliable.
Well, there still seems to be some discussion re: OneButton conversion.

So, I just picked up VisualBasic 6.0 Pro and I'm looking for a good project
to sink my teeth into to learn the language.  I'm also interested in
developing my own PC Organizer software (similar to Outlook, but more suited
to my needs).

If there is any information on the data structures used for the .ADB, .PDB,
and .NDB files, I would much appreciate it.

Nothing may come of this effort and I will still rely on CPACK until a
solution is truly rock solid.

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Has anybody looked at BestCrypt or even tried to install it on the
LX?
BestCrypt for DOS and Win3.1/Win9x/NT can be found on

 http://www.jetico.com

It sets up encrypted 'containers' which can be used like drives.

For DOS nearly no requirements are stated although for Win3.1 a 386
is required. ??

Before starting to experiment, I would like to know if there's
knowledge already.

Thanks

Hermann


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>
>
> Here's a question that was probably answered before I
> subscribed to this
> list:
>
> How safe is the file-based password protection on the HP? I'm
> trying to .........
> If the password protection is lousy, is there any additional
file-based
> password protection I can get that would easily integrate with my
200?
> Preferably System Manager compliant...
>
> Thanks
>
> Philippe :)

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Hi,

are there users of Borland C++ 1.0 on the LX? If so, I would like to
know about your experiences.

I just installed it on my 200LX and start using it (at least I try).

Thanks
  Hermann

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Remember, you can always sign on to unknown sites that may spam you as:
no_one@provider.com  or even more fun and telling off names.

Dan



Steven Lawson wrote:
>
> Not wishing to sign up for yet another source of email, were there any
> websites listed in the article for the maker of this cool item?  I can
> see my next Unix server just waiting for me... :-)
>
> > The article describes a "matchbox" PC 5" square inches by 4/5" thick.
> > The matchbox "contains a 486 processor, 16 megabytes of RAM and a
> > 340-megabyte hard drive. It also has ports to connect a keyboard, monitor
> > and modem."
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Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:50:24 -0400 (EDT)

04h15m21s ago ...
On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, ALAN KREMPLER wrote:

> 1. set your cusor on a file to define a link to and mark it (space =
key).
> 2. go to the directory where you wont to have the link placed to.
> 3. press CTRL- or select /File/Link... from the menu.
>
> thats it. very much like copying.
> this will do the following:
> 1. create a *.xff file which contains the
> location of the link target as plain text and
> 2. modify (or create, if
> necessary) the _.xfn file to give the link the name of the original =
file.

Great!  Works exactly as described.  Next question (well... two,
actually):  Is there a function available in X-Finder that will create
a .xfe (executable) symbolic link, instead of the .xff?  And is there
any way of arranging the items on the /Palmtop GUI menu other than
using bogus file dates and sorting on that - or fake names and using
name sort?   Of course, the first can be accomplished by renaming the
*.xff to *.xfe - but that's an extra step.

An executable link can be created by hand with a text editor and
creating a file - e.g. whatever.xfe, saving it, then moving it to
palmtop.lzh   You can include multiple commands separated by
semicolons, and specify memory allotment by putting a "Pipe symbol"
after the command.  Something like:
        a:;cd\forth\hp-pygmy.com|200
to switch to drive a: change directory to forth and run hp-pygmy with
250K memory.   What I would like to do is to create the command file,
and move it to the .lzh file from a menu command.   I think maybe this
could be done by setting up a line in the "Special" menu...

This really is a cool program  8-)

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Mack,

> The version from http://minix.hplx.net handles all those things properly=
.  I
> forgot to mention that the Minix for the LX only works on a 200LX so =
far, as
> it makes a bios call that is moved around for different versions of the =
bios
> and I have it working for only a couple of bios versions of the 200LX.

I really does. Thanks a lot for the hard work you did.

login as bin I tried the following:

    man usage

It results in an error or at least it doesn't open the maunal.

What do I wrong? Do you have any advice?

Regards

Helmuth

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When I sent my original post, I hadn't really looked at the documentation
(am I very different than most ?).



>Two questions...I like using IS with lots of windows showing, rather than
>lots of single lines as the demo.fdb file uses. I typically have many IS
>windows with a little info in each. Is there any way to change the display
>format? (I have to admit that I didn't check the help file as yet).
>
>Secondly, I installed the program on my flashcard in a FFDB directory. I
>tried accessing the help file and the program appears to require it to be
>in the c:\_dat directory. Is that correct? Is the directory modifiable?

I saw in the docs that the .hlp file must be placed in the c:\_dat
directory for it to be usable, so I answered my own question. As for the
size of the windows, I assume that that is not possible, so I would like to
change my question to a request for future versions of the program.



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Rod Whitby wrote:
> I'll try and dig up a URL for you.  I've got the hardcopy here in
> front of me - it's a file named tcp201.txt titled "Preliminary
> Specification for a TCP/IP Application Binary Inteface (ABI) to run
> over MS-DOS.  It'll be under www.trumpet.com (or .org or something)
> somewhere.  It's much like a packet driver (it even has a TCP_DRVR
> interrupt validation marker) except at the TCP/IP level instead of the
> Ethernet level.  The trumpet range of DOS internet apps all use the
> same TSR for the TCP/IP stack - much the same idea as www.exe except
> as a stand-alone TSR.

Funny that I never heard about that. When I started implementing WWW/LX
in 1995, I don't think this already existed, did it?

> > NNTP: in NEWS/LX you can select the port it should connect to
>
> The trouble is that the firewall requires a login-type authentication
> in a telnet session before accepting another telnet command to get
> outside.

I am doing the same thing across the firewall in our company. I use a
ROBOT/LX script for that. Oh, I have to say I use a ROBOT/LX script for
all the NNTP stuff anyway.

> I had to modify LXNNTP to do all this over the telnet
> connection before piggy-backing the NNTP protocol over the existing
> telnet connection.

I asked the author of NEWS/LX to do that but he had no time, so I
started doing it with ROBOT/LX scripts - and I am pleased how well it
works.

> There are so many uses for FTP and HTTP connectivity
> that we need to have servers for these protocols running on the palmtop.

I see your points. For me, they would not really work out. My main
machine is the palmtop. All I develop, I do on it, mostly in trains or
while waiting for something/somebody. So I have different needs.

> But with 640k in each carousel session, you can do a number of client
> things by human multi-tasking.  Especially if you remove the GUIs ;-)

By removing GUIs it might probably work. With the GUIs, impossible IMO
because too many parts must run at the same time.

Hmmm... tear down the GUIs! :-)

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> David
> Perhaps I'm missing something but I don't see any way to import a CSV
file
> into Dataperfect. I have just the dp.exe and dp.sys files and press F3
for
> help but it's just not doing anything.
> Tony

Have you created a file?
Ctrl+F5 will bring up the import screen.

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David
Perhaps I'm still missing your point but can I import CSV files into
Dataperfect?
Thanks
Tony

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Alan,
What do see as the advantages of FFDB over the built-in
Notetaker program?

Steve

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Date:         Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:10:54 -0500
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<<It results in an error or at least it doesn't open the maunal.
What do I wrong? Do you have any advice?>>

It works fine for me as either bin or root.  Make sure you don't have any
TSRs loaded except for the necessary ones.  Also I suggest reducing your
buffers to 5 in your CONFIG.SYS.

I also loaded a newer version that should be bios version independent
(hopefully).

Cheers,
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Date:         Sat, 10 Apr 1999 16:21:00 -0600
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              Floyd Smithberg <flydnq7x@PRIMENET.COM>
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Tnx for the tip, I bought one of the R/S switching 3A power supplies...works
like a charm with my NC20...gonna be great for portable use here and UK.>
73 Floyd NQ7X  Phoenix ScQRPion

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Date:         Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:14:25 -0400
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Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:06:58 -0400 (EDT)

I mistakenly wrote:

> You can include multiple commands separated by
> semicolons, and specify memory allotment by putting a "Pipe symbol"
> after the command.  Something like:
>         a:;cd\forth\hp-pygmy.com|200
> to switch to drive a: change directory to forth and run hp-pygmy with
> 250K memory.

Oops (twice)  The line should have a semicolon, not backslash -- and =
read:
        a:;cd\forth;hp-pygmy.com|200
and obviously this gives 200K, not 250.

Sorry about that.

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Date:         Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:34:14 +0000
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Subject:      Re: Borland C++ 1.0
Comments: To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de

   >are there users of Borland C++ 1.0 on the LX? If so, I would like to
   >know about your experiences.
   >I just installed it on my 200LX and start using it (at least I try).

I have it on my LX.  Mostly used it for a C++ class last year but otherwise
hasn't seen much use.

I tossed the helps and the GUI to save space. My installed files are just
under 1mb.

Also have Mix Power C, Fortran and Rexx installed. Maybe one of these days
I'll write something useful <g>.

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Date:         Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:53:23 -0400
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Subject:      Rever4 in the SUPER files base/misc questions

Hi all,

  I've been trying to setup the freeware Othello game program called
rever4 from SUPER's file base, but I can't seem to get it to work if it's
launched from system manager under MaxDOS.

  If I close down system manager and run it under straight DOS, it works
fine. It's too large to run by itself from system manager, so I set it up
to run from system manager under MaxDOS. I got the following error after
answering rever4's text questions:

  "File not found in Line No Line Number in module Rev4_1 at address
OCOC:0994

  Hit any key to return to system"

  The following is how it have it setup in system manager:

  Name:  Othello
  Path:  c:\maxdos.com c:\rever4\rev4_1.exe
  Comments:  (first character is the upside down "?")
  Icon:  (the c: prompt)

  How are other's successfully running rever4 from the system manager?
It's no big deal. I'd just like to know what I might be doing wrong?

  Another DOS program that I'm running under MaxDOS can only find it's
data files if they are in the C: root directory, even though while
running under straight DOS, it only sees it's data files if they are in
it's own subdirectory...

 Am I making a really dumb mistake, somehow?

  Well, as a I mentioned a while back, I'm about to start working on
setting up my 32MB X2 HP200LX as a node on my tiny proprietary lan to
facilitate automated backups and to handle last minute hotsyncing of my
DOS applications before hitting the road.

Last month, I found a supplier for the shells of the old Station 100, but
the one base shell that they sent out for me recently ended up way out in
Chicago somehow, only to be shipped right back to the supplier again. :-(


They are now sending it out to me again, but this time, via express mail.
...So, hopefully I'll have it sometime next week. They tell me that they
have about 50 of those shells in stock yet. They sound like a nice solid
base to stabilize my HP200LX on my desktop while it's serially connected
to my network and while I use it under A/C power. If anyone would like
the supplier info on those shells, just let me know and I'll post it.
I'll let you all know how that base shell works.

Oh, one more thing:

I remember that someone posted to this list a while back about the
HP200LX serial port's ability to automatically turn on the HP200LX
whenever it receives a signal. I'd like to hear more about this to see if
I can use this feature to get my HP200LX to turn on in the middle of the
night for it's automatic backup. I'd also seem to remember that there is
now a command line util that will turn a HP200LX off, too. That would be
great to run from my one of my batch files after the automatic backups
are completed.

Does anyone remember where I can find this info now?

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:17:14 -0500
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John,
I have a 2meg 200LX and Reversi runs fine from System Manager.
I don't use MaxDOS.

My path looks like this:
C:\reversi\rev4_1.exe|

Once it starts you need to hit ON + / in order to reverse the video
on the 200LX so that if you play black your pieces will be black
instead of white. : )

Steve


> -----Original Message-----
> From: John J Vanderstel SMTP:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 1999 6:53 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Rever4 in the SUPER files base/misc questions
>
> Hi all,
>
>   I've been trying to setup the freeware Othello game program called
> rever4 from SUPER's file base, but I can't seem to get it to work if
> it's
> launched from system manager under MaxDOS.

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>From: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de (Hermann Kellinghaus)
>Has anybody looked at BestCrypt or even tried to install it on the LX?
>It sets up encrypted 'containers' which can be used like drives.

I don't know BestCrypt but I use SecureDevice which is on the
SUPER site.  It is based on IDEA which is a recognised strong
cipher.

cheers... Russ

Ps- I recommend ALL potential users of encryption products read
the "Snake Oil FAQ" which is posted to alt.answers periodically.
Basically it says it is IMPOSSIBLE for almost all of us to
evaluate the quality of encruption products due to the high
level of math and encryption background needed.  Because of
this we are at the mercy of products that may look ok but we
can't know of any problems until the securuty has been broken
and our secrets have been uncovered.  Instead of trying
interesting new (untried) products it is safer to use old well
evaluated products that have proved the test of time.

While I use and recommend SecureDevice I can't guarentee the
quality because I can't evaluate the code.  I only know that
sources that I 'think' are reliable have stated that the IDEA
cipher is good.  Even that may not matter because the
implementation in SecureDevice may be flawed.

So... choose what you think is a good product and hope it is.
Also, be wary of advertising claims (the Snake Oil) which
only confuse and aren't reliable.

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Date:         Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:31:07 -0700
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> Ps- I recommend ALL potential users of encryption products read
> the "Snake Oil FAQ" which is posted to alt.answers periodically.

URL: http://www.interhack.net/people/cmcurtin/snake-oil-faq.html

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Date:         Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:13:19 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:03:03 -0400 (EDT)

02h07m40s ago ...
On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, John J Vanderstel wrote:

> It's too large to run by itself from system manager, so I set it up
> to run from system manager under MaxDOS. I got the following error =
after
> answering rever4's text questions:
>
>   "File not found...<snip>
>
>   The following is how it have it setup in system manager:
>   Path:  c:\maxdos.com c:\rever4\rev4_1.exe

You need to change the line to:
        c:\maxdos.com -dc:\rever4 rever4_1.exe

The -dc:\rever4 will change the working directory to c:\rever4  Without
this, you will be running from the root c directory.  That's also why
the other program you mentioned can't find its files unless they're in
the root.  Same idea for any prog that needs to be run from a
particular directory.  Just add the -d parameter after maxdos.

HTH

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Date:         Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:49:37 -0500
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 1999 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: Problems with DosMinix


> <<It results in an error or at least it doesn't open the maunal.
> What do I wrong? Do you have any advice?>>
>
> It works fine for me as either bin or root.  Make sure you don't have any
> TSRs loaded except for the necessary ones.  Also I suggest reducing your
> buffers to 5 in your CONFIG.SYS.

One thing I failed to mention was that you need to be careful when logging
in as anything other than root as the sh shell is used for root and ash,
which is much larger, is loaded for bin.  This can limit your available
memory to where some things won't run.

Cheers,
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Date:         Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:02:15 -0500
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              Les Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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David,
Thanks for your (macro) tip.  But I dont understand how the macro (selecting
the subsets) contributes to the speed.
Les

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From: Daivd Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook(CPU Speed)


>My phone list is 887 entries, and on my std 2meg 200lx it opens/closes
>in 2seconds. I use the notes field extensively, and have several subsets.
>
>I put this efficiency down to the macro I run regularly, that opens the
>file, selects the first subset, the next subset, the next subset...
>then closes the file.
>
>I also use this macro with WorldTime and Database & NoteTaker
>files.
>
>{F6}{Home}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}
>{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}
>{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{ Down}{F10}{F6}{Home}{F10}
>
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Date:         Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:10:04 -0400
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>===== Original Message From HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM> =====
>Alan,
>What do see as the advantages of FFDB over the built-in
>Notetaker program?
>
>Steve

I don't think that notetaker lets you do boolean searches. What about the size
of individual records. FFDB is limited to 32K. Is notetaker limited similarly?
What are the overall database size limitations of each?

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Date:         Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:47:28 -0500
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I guess this is kind of related....
I downloaded the Kamas Outliner program from SUPER the
other night and was VERY impressed with it. (I like ordering
things in outlines)  I first ran it on my desktop to get a feel for
it, and REALLY liked it.
I loaded it on my LX, but unfortunately I had to Terminate All
to run it, (a bit of a hassle) and then I couldn't get the colors
adjusted so that it was readable. Bummer.
I tried the other Outline programs on SUPER and IMHO they
didn't come close to Kamas. Too bad it's unreadable on the LX. : (
Anyone know of an Outliner program for the LX that's anywhere
near the caliber of Kamas?
BTW, I really like InfoSelect for Windows because it lets you
outline your items. If I had a suggestion for FFDB, that would
be it.

Steve

> >Alan,
> >What do see as the advantages of FFDB over the built-in
> >Notetaker program?
> >
> >Steve
>
> I don't think that notetaker lets you do boolean searches. What about
> the size
> of individual records. FFDB is limited to 32K. Is notetaker limited
> similarly?
> What are the overall database size limitations of each?
>
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Date:         Sun, 11 Apr 1999 05:55:00 GMT
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              Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
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I would strongly suggest getting the developer documentation or the
Palmtop CDRom available from Thaddeus. The palmtop CDRom contains the
developers docs in html format (+ a lot more).

GaryS

> If there is any information on the data structures used for the .ADB, =
.PDB,
> and .NDB files, I would much appreciate it.

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Date:         Sun, 11 Apr 1999 08:48:43 +0000
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From:         Mike Melancon <melancon@MICROGEAR.NET>
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To import CSV into Dataperfect you can use CTRL-F5 to bring up the
import screen.  Each item on the screen is numbered - entering the
number will allow you to make entries to suit your needs.  Press 1
and enter the file name you wish to import. Press 3 to make DOS
delimited file your choice.  Then enter , (comma) as field delimiter
and space as record delimiter.

There is a little more to consider in designing the panel to recieve
the data, lots of help can be found on the Dataperfect mailing list.

> David
> Perhaps I'm still missing your point but can I import CSV files into
> Dataperfect?
> Thanks
> Tony
>
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>
Best Regards,
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Date:         Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:27:12 -0400
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Soup kitchen

On 04-09 07:26am, you wrote

> > Wouldn't they be running DIET or GARLIC?
>
> Or a DOS port of a shopping cart? :) (I _can_ use a diet,
> though...)

Try The Shopping Assistant, from SUPER.  It comes with a
nice pic of a shopping cart. :=)

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Date:         Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:41:16 -0400
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Subject:      Re: FFDB - A new EXM Program for HPLX

On 04-09 05:30pm, you wrote

> It is great to be able to cut and paste between built in apps, and use the
> in a more integrated way than I can do currently with IS.

Did you try the same with notetaker?  Just wondering.  I do like this
program a little better, and the integration is one of its major advantages
over IS.

> Two questions...I like using IS with lots of windows showing, rather than
> lots of single lines as the demo.fdb file uses. I typically have many IS
> windows with a little info in each. Is there any way to change the display
> format? (I have to admit that I didn't check the help file as yet).

I would be surprised if the author responded in the affirmative.  That's why
I recommended the datacard interface as being more usable.

> Thanks again for putting in the time to write the program. It is one more
> reason to save some money to finally upgrade my HP100 1 meg to a more up t
> date unit.

I have always felt that palmtops were meant to be used with just such
programs, for on-the-spot, random note taking.

Domingo
an InfoSelect power user

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Date:         Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:15:57 -0400
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On 04-11 12:10am, you wrote

> I don't think that notetaker lets you do boolean searches.

Nope, you can't.

> What about the size of individual records.  FFDB is limited to 32K.
> Is notetaker limited similarly?

Same limit (hplx manual page 8-6)

> What are the overall database size limitations of each?

Notetaker has a theoretical limit of 5000 notes per file.
I don't recall what the recent post said about FFDB.

My comments:
1-The jumbled together initial screen should be substituted by
the datacard interface of the notetaker and other Sysman applications.

2-There appears to be a bug: If you open another aplication after FFDB, and
you try to edit a record with Memo, the temporary file will be written to
the root of C: but Memo will look for it in the root of whichever drive is
open at the time, thus creating an error.

3-The greatest need of this program is speed.  It compares very unfavorably
to IS on this respect (but then, there is no DOS program I know of which
runs faster, except perhaps for Tinyedit, which hardly does anything).

InfoSelect is hard on the eyes, so I welcome this new program, and look
forward to its improvement.

Domingo
an InfoSelect 'power' user

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Hi, Steve Dowell:

If you like Kamas but don't like it's multi-colored appearance, check to
see if the program has a start up option such as /BW, /Mono, etc.  If not=
,
then use the CGAHLP.COM program with the -DMono.dat color/conversion file=
.
Usually that will help. Put both the CGAHLP and Mono.dat files in the sam=
e
directory with the program and include the following batch file =


@echo off
REM BW.BAT
cgahlp -dmono.dat
%1
cgahlp -r

and run BW kamas  from the dos prompt.

.ed.

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I have a data base with a group box containing option buttons. Does
anyone know how to create a view with all records sorted by which option
button is checked?

Perhaps there is a SSL solution.

Thanks.

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Howdy all,


I've been experimenting w/ GDBLOAD, read the manual, etc.  Shock! I know
;-)  and I don't see a way to automatically create a new database; then
load a Comma Separated Value (CSV) file into it.  It seems the database must
exist already...

I've been creating or using pre-created databases in Access at work.  It'd
be REAL handy to do a fast Access dump to CSV (the first line contains the
field titles); then load it into a non-existent .GDB database. Is there an
easy way to do this?  I put 123 in the header as Access will export to a
Lotus .WK1 file as a "flat file" with the DB field titles in the first line.
Would it be easier to go from WK1 to GDB?

I don't want to create the dBase twice .... first in Access and then make a
blank one in .GDB format, so I can import it. We do a LOT with media and VIP
contact lists, many of which are in Access.  It'd be nice to painlessly port
them to .GDB and keep them in my pocket.  My interim solution is to hit the
arrow key a million times in the spreadsheet (locking titles, etc. It's not
pretty; but it works.).

I imagine there will be difficulties in "telling" the GDB generator what
field types and lengths to put in the .GDB file ... I've kept all fields (in
this case) "Text entries" (except two "memo" entries, but can accept any
program truncating after two lines.  I've even kept the phone numbers in
"text" format, 'cause I didn't want to be forced into a MS-driven field
restriction, when some radio station gives me a number like, "555-KTEX".
From what I've seen of the CSV, Access doesn't automatically tell me the
longest line length I'll encounter in each field, when you look down ALL the
records....

I could try to write a program in BASIC that does some sort of line-length
count in each field of the CSV and could eventually get fancy and test for
field type, but would any output I could generate interface with anything
out there that would build a .GDB?  Or, how hard is it to write a "program"
that would do all that and make the blank .GDB that GDBLOAD could then fill?

I'm a "pretty smart DOS guy" and "advanced" end user BUT have had only BASIC
as a programming language and have never had to dust those skills off and
use them.... translation: I'm looking for a way to cobble together
something(s) that has (have) already been done :-)  .

TIA for any help/solutions!

--tim

PS. I used to use dBase III, anyone know a cheap source of the DOS
disks/program?  Folks often offer "upgrade" price anyone offer a
"side-grade" or "retro-grade" price?  I don't want to say "down-grade"
'cause ANYTHING you can do w/ a palmtop is NOT a step down ;-) !!

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Date:         Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:10:45 -0230
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How many keypresses does it take to run a program on the
200LX?  From pressing the power button, how fast are you to run
some particular program?  Can you do it in 1 or 2 keypresses?

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Has anyone ever tried to get the source code for the original HP EXM
applications in order to improve on them. There might obviously be copyright
issues, but who knows, maybe HP would be ready to let a limited number of
people make the "improvements" and rule their approval on them...

Am I dreaming here? I mean, a better filer, a better appointment app... that
would be nice, wouldn't it? Of course, if HP refuses to sell any rights to
the source code, there might be a problem, but if they are not selling it
anymore, what would be the harm?

What am I not seeing here?

Philippe :)

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Leslie Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM> wrote:

> I have a 2MB HP200LX.  My phonebook has 744 entries and is growing.  It
> takes at least 45 seconds to save the file (even on AC - which is faster
> than batteries.)

That is very slow.  You could have some kind of corruption in
the file and this is causing it to be so slow.  Try doing a
Menu File Copy right in the Phone app and save a copy of this
file to another name.  Then open up this copy and close it and
then open it again.  See if this copy works any faster.

Also, you should look into the utility called FASTDB.  It is a
special kind of TSR program for use with SysMgr that will
postpone garbage collection of the PDB, NDB, ADB & GDB files.
This will speed up the time it takes to open and close these
files.  Follow the directions completely to make it work.  And
modify your AUTOEXEC.BAT file to have it go to the C: drive
before running SysMgr.  So, it should end like this:

C:
200

If you are storing a *.?DB file on a stacked flashcard, then
it will be very slow.  Try getting rid of stacker or moving
the file to the C: drive.  Make sure you backup to the flash
card often.

The way the *.?DB files work, each record with a notes field
actually takes up two records in the file.  So, you actually
have over 1400 records and this may take some time to work
with.

A double speed upgrade would certainly help.  You may have a
flash card that is slow to write.  When you close a *.?DB
file, an index is re-written to the end of the file.  If the
flash card is slow to write, this process will be long.


Stan

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Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU> wrote:

> Are you using Turbocpu?
>
> It is a TSR that I use on my vanilla 2MB model to speed it up from 4.77 Mhz
> to about 6.5 Mhz.  There is a faster option that takes it to about 8.5 but
> the screen flickers

Gosh, I wish this utility would go away - it is not what it
seems to be.

TURBOCPU does NOT speed up the CPU in any way whatsoever.  All
it does is shorten some of the wait states that are built into
the system for accessing the internal RAM and ROM and some of
the I/O devices.

Those faster CPU speeds you are seeing reported by the
benchmarks are false, inflated readings because of the wait
state modifications.  It is just snake oil.

The CPU in the standard 100/200LX runs at something around 8
MHz because that is 1/2 of the speed of the main crystal of
the palmtop.  The double spped unit has a 32 MHz chrystal and
therefore clocks the CPU at about 16 MHz.  This speed upgrade
is a true increase in CPU speed, there is no doubt about that.
 But under normal situations, the CPU is only a part of the
subsystems involved in running a program.  The RAM and the
PCMCIA slot are not running any faster, so the actual
throughput you will see on a double speed unit is not
everything running twice as fast.

I have run a Lotus 123 calculation intensive speadsheet both
before and after the double speed upgrade and saw a 1.8x
improvement in running this real world benchmark.


Stan

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Rian <maartens@iafrica.com> wrote:

> Are you using the HP's battery power to connect? How many
> minutes do you manage to stay online before getting low
> battery messages?

Yes, I have been using the palmtop on battery power while
going online with the cel phone and the PCMCIA modem.  My
online runs with acCIS are no more than aout 1 or 2 minutes,
so I don't know how long the palmtop could stay online.


Stan

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On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Andy wrote:

> How many keypresses does it take to run a program on the
> 200LX?  From pressing the power button, how fast are you to run
> some particular program?  Can you do it in 1 or 2 keypresses?

Yes, if the palmtop was in the System Manager when it was turned off and
the application you want is one of the blue-key apps. then it will take
two keypresses, and that is including pressing the ON button.


Cheers,

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Date:         Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:48:33 -0500
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Comments: To: Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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I can only explain by describing how I use InfoSelect.

I have a number of small files set up, each dealing with a separate topic.
As I colect information on each topic, I add a note into one or more files
that that info may apply to.  For example, I might have a file dealing with
different work projects, books or articles I came across that I might want
to read, quotes, etc. Also, I had a file for each month, which I used as a
log or diary.

I could quickly search the notes in each file by topic or date to find the
information that I was looking for.

The builtin Notetaker never gave me the freefrom capabilites that I so like
about IS.

Alan


At 05:09 PM 4/10/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Alan,
>What do see as the advantages of FFDB over the built-in
>Notetaker program?
>
>Steve
>
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On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:10:45 -0230, Andy <avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET> wrote:

> How many keypresses does it take to run a program on the
> 200LX?  From pressing the power button, how fast are you to run
> some particular program?  Can you do it in 1 or 2 keypresses?

Yes.

73 Jeff

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I am looking at developing a POP3/SMTP transfer program for ccMail. I
like the ccMail interface, so the driver to go between them seems like
the smart way to go. I have already got the ccMail file structure
figured out, and have even successfully "faked" ccMail with a test
email message. I think that the textual portion of the email driver
will be pretty easy, thanks mostly to the work Rod Whitby has done with
LXPOP. Now for my question...

What is the standard for attachments? I have read the RFC 1225, 821,
1123, and 822, but did not see any mention of how attachments are
handled. I would rather not send a bunch of attachments to myself to
try and figure out the format, since I would likely end up getting some
part of it wrong. If someone would point me in the right direction, I
would appreciate it.

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   >> How many keypresses does it take to run a program on the
   >> 200LX?  From pressing the power button, how fast are you to run
   >> some particular program?  Can you do it in 1 or 2 keypresses?
Message-Id: <19990412023043.GMDL126@12.72.154.183>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:30:43 +0000

   >Yes, if the palmtop was in the System Manager when it was turned
   >off and the application you want is one of the blue-key apps. then
   >it will take two keypresses, and that is including pressing the ON
   >button.

A waste of a whole keypress <g>.

My 64k pocket Rolodex turned on when any of the programmed application
keys were pressed. Now that was quick.

It was my first real PDA...and you think the LX is a power champ, the
Rolodex runs 2-3 years on 2 button lithiums, and had IR transfer.

Too bad none of the functions beyond phone number lookup/entry were worth
beans. But then maybe that's why I'm here.

- Longden

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Hi All,

  I'd like to thank Steve and Peniel for explaining how they are running
some of their DOS programs from the system manager.

  I'll be running some of my DOS programs without the help of MaxDOS and
using the "|" that Steve had reminded me about, and I'll be running my
other DOS programs using MaxDOS correctly now, thanks to Peniel. :-)

  I'm now still trying to remember who had mentioned some things a while
back about the serial port's ability to detect a signal and automatically
waking up the HP200LX, and also who had mentioned something about a new
util that can put the HP200LX back to sleep from the command line.

  Any hints on where to find that info would help me to introduce even
more automation into my backup/hotsync project.

  I look forward to when I'll be able to contribute something significant
here, as well. :-)

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:40:42 +1200
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Subject:      Re: Access (or 123)  to GDB? via GDBLOAD or ?

How about using macros to generate your blank database files on
the palmtop? Surely the data you are getting from Access conforms
to a smallish family of types?

You could have a macro file, with up to 10 macros for 10
different database styles, or if you wanted to do a particularly
gnarly, complex one, you could chain macros together, and to tie
one in knots, chain to another macro file!

You could even break individual database structures down into
modules, and use a single macro for each module, so you could
then build up a database in steps...

I have dbase IV running on my std 200LX, but mostly prefer to use
the built-in apps for speed of access(!) and cut-n-pasteability.
I have a full install with all the help files, printer files and
even the tutorial, at under 5meg. (My father got a boxed set
complete with 5 kilos of manuals at a church fair for $1.00)

HTIY (Hope this inspires you)

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Longden Loo wrote:
>
>    >> How many keypresses does it take to run a program on the
>    >> 200LX?  From pressing the power button, how fast are you to run
>    >> some particular program?  Can you do it in 1 or 2 keypresses?
> Message-Id: <19990412023043.GMDL126@12.72.154.183>
> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:30:43 +0000
>
>    >Yes, if the palmtop was in the System Manager when it was turned
>    >off and the application you want is one of the blue-key apps. then
>    >it will take two keypresses, and that is including pressing the ON
>    >button.
>
> A waste of a whole keypress <g>.
>
> My 64k pocket Rolodex turned on when any of the programmed application
> keys were pressed. Now that was quick.
>
> It was my first real PDA...and you think the LX is a power champ, the
> Rolodex runs 2-3 years on 2 button lithiums, and had IR transfer.
>
> Too bad none of the functions beyond phone number lookup/entry were worth
> beans. But then maybe that's why I'm here.
>
> - Longden
>
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A computer (HP200LX) is in a different class than a pda!!

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Brian McIlvaine wrote:
> I am looking at developing a POP3/SMTP transfer program for ccMail.

Before I developped POST/LX, I was looking into that too. But it was
impossible (at least for me) to get an official file description for
the cc:mail file format and reverse ingineering is usually illegal and
I did not want to manoeuvre myself into problems. Therefore I gave up.
If you really want to do it, may I suggest to officially get the OK
from Lotus.

> What is the standard for attachments? I have read the RFC 1225, 821,
> 1123, and 822, but did not see any mention of how attachments are
> handled.

Have a look at RFC 1521 and 1522 (MIME).

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Date:         Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:58:41 +1200
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   >I am looking at developing a POP3/SMTP transfer program for ccMail.
   >I like the ccMail interface, so the driver to go between them seems

Cool! Kewl! Great! I'm right behind you, in spirit, not in body,
as I couldn't program my way out of a damp paper bag in a
thunderstorm!

But I like ccMail, it is built-in and works excellent with
palmtop.com, but down here in New Zealand, the telco charge rate
to the USA kills that service.

I tried talking one of the Auckland ISP's into fitting a Lotus
ccMail gateway, but absolutely no success, they wouldn't even do
it if I paid the several grand for the software!

Isn't there already a program that "tricks" ccMail around? (PNR?)
I seem to remember trying it out a few years ago, it had many
macros with flashing screens...

Wishing you all the best with this project.

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Does anybody know if the Canon BJ-10e has a serial port beside the parallel
port?

TIA
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Date:         Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:43:19 +0200
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>
> Great!  Works exactly as described.  Next question (well... two,
> actually):  Is there a function available in X-Finder that will create
> a .xfe (executable) symbolic link, instead of the .xff?  And is there
> any way of arranging the items on the /Palmtop GUI menu other than
> using bogus file dates and sorting on that - or fake names and using
> name sort?   Of course, the first can be accomplished by renaming the
> *.xff to *.xfe - but that's an extra step.

rename files if you want .xfe instad of .xff. i haven't found any
shortcut yet.

for your other question, however, there is a good answer: use .xpt files.
the file format is the same as for the palmtop section in finder.env.
functionality is also the same.

> 250K memory.   What I would like to do is to create the command file,
> and move it to the .lzh file from a menu command.   I think maybe this
> could be done by setting up a line in the "Special" menu...

try assigning the action to SHIFTCTRLENTER, for example. look into
the finder.env file to learn from the .icn section how to do that.


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Tony,
I checked the user manual over the weekend. Paradox 3.5 will import and export ascii comma delimited files. It also supports direct conversion between Paradox files and Dbase II thru IV, Lotus 123 V1 and 2.
Hope this proves helpful.

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Try this site: http://fly.to/hplx and look for the LXREF files. There's a wealth of knowledge concerning the HP200LX.

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Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:25:25 -0400 (EDT)

03h42m06s ago ...
On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, ALAN KREMPLER wrote:

> > And is there
> > any way of arranging the items on the /Palmtop GUI menu other than
> > using bogus file dates and sorting on that - or fake names and using
> > name sort?

> for your other question, however, there is a good answer: use .xpt =
files.
> the file format is the same as for the palmtop section in finder.env.
> functionality is also the same.

Thanks!  After testing the new Finder on my spare machine, I installed
it on the 200.  Works great.  Right now it's set up using the bogus
date trick to put the /Palmtop screen in the order I was using with the
older version.

Where did you find the info about .xpt files?  Do you read Japanese and
have the JKIT?   Do you set up a single .xpt using the list from the
palmtop section of the older .env file, and use this as the %z
parameter?

Thanks again, and sorry for all the questions.

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Andreas wrote:

> But I doubt we have the space for doing all this. The 186 can
only
> access 1 meg and Gates reduced that to 640k maximum. This is
sufficient
> for most stuff, but not at the same time.
>

The use of 640KB-1MB by the system was IBM's decision, not
Microsoft's. Remember - part of that space was _hardware_ mapped
to the mono and CGA video cards and ROM BIOS. It's possible to
stuff software into the interstices, but any OS running on the
basic PC architecture has to work around the limits of the
physical hardware design. Some OSes page out to pretend to be
able to use that space, but that's a performance trade-off.
Remember the hardware configuration settings for loading BIOS
into RAM?
If HP had chosen to not follow _IBM's_ mapping, we wouldn't be
able to run much of the DOS software the list is so fond of.
Credit (and blame) where credit's due!

Jon

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Alan
> or your other question, however, there is a good answer: use .xpt
> files.

How does this .xpt files work?

Regards

Antonio


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Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:50:26 -0400 (EDT)

> On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, ALAN KREMPLER wrote:
>
> > > any way of arranging the items on the /Palmtop GUI
>
> > ...there is a good answer: use .xpt files.
>
>  Do you set up a single .xpt using the list from the
> palmtop section of the older .env file, and use this as the %z
> parameter?

OK - This time I just answered my own question.  That IS how it works.
Need to close Finder and restart - init won't make the change.

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> Date:    Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:48:13 -0400
> From:    David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
> Subject: Re: Microsoft strikes on Ebay ???
>
 <snip>
>
> Including, I think, _all_ copies on any backup medium that you
happen
> to possess.
>
Correct. In fact many licenses restrict the number of backups of
their software you may keep. Presents an interesting problem, no?

> Can you imagine _anyone_ re-writing all of thier ancient
backups
> to remove something?
>
Can you imagine anyone who can still *read* their ancient
backups? If they still have a working drive, the medium's
probably deteriorated beyond usability!

Jon

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> Date:    Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:26:53 +0200
> From:    John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
> Subject: Re: Science formulas for solver--number limits
>
> Thank you Orin!
>
> Would you know how I could go about getting these newsletters?
>
Jake Schwartz (http://www.waterw.com/~jake-s/ppccdrom.htm) has
put PPC Journal and CHHU Notes (both HP calculator) on CD-ROM.
The Museum of HP Computing
(http://www.hpmuseum.org/cd/cddesc.htm) has a CD-ROM set with the
museum site (including a RPN tutorial) and over 100 HP calculator
manuals & application packs (which include the formulae & program
steps). I don't do TI!

Jon

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I got a new LXMap submission from Paul Stratton and if you have been on the
fence about loading up this application, this should push you right over. How
many times have you seen a US or Canadian phone number and wondered where it
was geographically located? This is a constant for me. This new LXMap takes an
area code as input and immediately shows you where it's from!

Paul has said that he would offer the original GIF up to anyone who thinks they
can get the image clean enough to see city names rather than just state names.

http://www.palmtop.net/lxmap.html

And as always, thanks to Stefan Peichl for LXMap. :)
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Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:40:03 -0400 (EDT)

Hi group -

Since Alan's post about using .xpt files to set up the /Palmtop screen
in Finder, I've done a little messing around with this.  There are
several ways to use these.

1>   Point the %z parameter (in finder.env) to the .xpt file

2>   Select a .xpt file while using Finder's file browser, and Enter

3>   Copy the .xpt file(s) to /Palmtop

The latter 2 options will let you use multiple /Palmtop screens.  VERY
cool!

Thanks again for the info, Alan    8-)

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Date:         Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:51:01 -0700
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Greetings,

What is the highest version of Borland's C++ that runs on the HPLX?

What other C++ compilers run on the HPLX (highest versions)?

Thanks very much for the responses.

George Goldsmith
Diamond Bar, CA (USA)

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I apologize for my ignorance on this subject, as I'm usually very 'up to
date' on cool LX stuff but I'm not 'up to speed' on X-Finder :(

1) What is it? Is it like Stereo Shell?

2) Can it do all the cool things Stereo Shell can do?

3) What kind of memory requirements and disk space does it need?

4) Does anyone have a working setup they could zip up and email to
   me so I can try it?

73 es tnx Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:21:17 -0700
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I think Borland Turbo C++ 1.0x is the highest (and only) version of C++ that
runs on the LX.

There's a couple of other C compilers, but I don't know of any other C++ for the
LX.

- Longden





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Greetings,

What is the highest version of Borland's C++ that runs on the HPLX?

What other C++ compilers run on the HPLX (highest versions)?

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Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, Steve Dowell wrote at 07:17 PM 4/10/99
-0500
>My path looks like this:
>C:\reversi\rev4_1.exe|

<grin>  I wrote a little menu in LXBatch for all of my games, so now they
only take up one slot in "&More..."  I launch the menu with |325, which
seems to be plenty for everything I play.

>Once it starts you need to hit ON + / in order to reverse the video
>on the 200LX so that if you play black your pieces will be black
>instead of white. : )

Now, does anyone have a way of doing this automatically before the game
loads and undoing it afterwards?  That seems to be the one keystroke I can
never remember!

        S.

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Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:16:33 -0400 (EDT)

01h08m55s ago ...
On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> 1) What is it? Is it like Stereo Shell?

Picture a combination of AppMgr and Filer, and an icon viewer with some
features of STS.  The new version now has the option for an STS/Filer
type split screen file browser.

> 2) Can it do all the cool things Stereo Shell can do?

Not sure about ALL - certainly most.  I use both X-Finder & STS

> 3) What kind of memory requirements and disk space does it need?

About 40K+ disk space for the .exm - plus about 8K for the .env - and
some space for icons (but your icons are better in uncompressed .lzh
files).  I have it set to close Filer on launch, and have 348000 free
memory left.

> 4) Does anyone have a working setup they could zip up and email to
>    me so I can try it?

Sure - if you want it.  I just got the newest version a few days ago,
and have it working pretty much the way I like.

-Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:27:59 -0300
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Subject:      Re: C++ on the HPLX

I guess the version 2.0 runs too, but I still didn't get to find it on the
web.
Isaque.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Longden Loo SMTP:Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 1:21 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: C++ on the HPLX
>
> I think Borland Turbo C++ 1.0x is the highest (and only) version of C++
> that
> runs on the LX.
>
> There's a couple of other C compilers, but I don't know of any other C++
> for the
> LX.
>
> - Longden
>
>
>
>
>
> "Goldsmith, George" <George.Goldsmith@WEST.BOEING.COM> on 04/12/99
> 08:51:01 AM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
> respond
>       to "Goldsmith, George" <George.Goldsmith@WEST.BOEING.COM>
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)
>
> Subject:  C++ on the HPLX
>
>
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> What is the highest version of Borland's C++ that runs on the HPLX?
>
> What other C++ compilers run on the HPLX (highest versions)?
>
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Date:         Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:40:19 -0700
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I just found this:
http://www.hplxdirect.com

Interesting... geared toward WinCE mostly, but the 200LX is displayed
prominently as the 2nd machine on the page.

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting    Gilroy, CA
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I think several people on the list are running Borland Turbo C  v2.0, but that's
C and not C++.

I haven't heard of anyone using anything higher than Turbo C++,  v1.0x on the
LX.

I believe I've heard some people say that TC++ v1.0 has all the features of TC
v2.0..... plus it adds the C++ extensions.

- Longden





"Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR> on 04/12/99 09:27:59 AM

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Subject:  Re: C++ on the HPLX




I guess the version 2.0 runs too, but I still didn't get to find it on the
web.
Isaque.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Longden Loo SMTP:Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 1:21 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: C++ on the HPLX
>
> I think Borland Turbo C++ 1.0x is the highest (and only) version of C++
> that
> runs on the LX.
>
> There's a couple of other C compilers, but I don't know of any other C++
> for the
> LX.

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Date:         Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:57:34 -0700
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Yes! Great! I'm all for it! I'll even pay for it! Keep up the great work!

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: email attachment prot/ccMail...


>    >I am looking at developing a POP3/SMTP transfer program for ccMail.
>    >I like the ccMail interface, so the driver to go between them seems
>
> Cool! Kewl! Great! I'm right behind you, in spirit, not in body,
> as I couldn't program my way out of a damp paper bag in a
> thunderstorm!
>
> But I like ccMail, it is built-in and works excellent with
> palmtop.com, but down here in New Zealand, the telco charge rate
> to the USA kills that service.
>
> I tried talking one of the Auckland ISP's into fitting a Lotus
> ccMail gateway, but absolutely no success, they wouldn't even do
> it if I paid the several grand for the software!
>
> Isn't there already a program that "tricks" ccMail around? (PNR?)
> I seem to remember trying it out a few years ago, it had many
> macros with flashing screens...
>
> Wishing you all the best with this project.
>
> David Lawrence
> katana@clear.net.nz
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: EMS driver for upgraded HP200

ALAN KREMPLER writes:
> are any upgraded versions out there? is anyone successfully using EMS on
> a 4 or 5 mb unit?
>
> tell me what you kmow

I have recently modified EMM200 and Makeems to work on my 4Mb palmtop. I
am waiting for permission from the author of EMM200 to release it to the
SUPER site.



======================
David Becher
davidb@netmedia.net.il
davidb@cimatron.co.il
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Date:         Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:03:55 -0700
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On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

> I think several people on the list are running Borland Turbo C v2.0,
> but that's C and not C++.
> I haven't heard of anyone using anything higher than Turbo C++, v1.0x
> on the LX.
> I believe I've heard some people say that TC++ v1.0 has all the
> features of TC v2.0..... plus it adds the C++ extensions.

Borland C++ 2.0 will work on the LX as well.  Rod Whitby uses it to do all
of his LXTCP (and other) stuff.  Turbo C++ is a beefed-down version of it.
<g>

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Date:         Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:47:29 +0200
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From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
Subject:      Re: LX200-Notes
Comments: To: Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
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<snip>
the url for the free version of "EasySync for Lotus Organizer & Lotus
Notes - Synchronization for the PalmPilot, Palm III and IBM WorkPad"
.....
the url for the free HP200LX to Lotus Organizer 2.1 exchange link utility.

.....
You might be able to get a workable hack running.
</snip>

Is a workable hack out there?

<snip>
With Version 3 of Lotus Notes I had the ability to save copies of messages
in the old CCMail Archive format
</snip>

Is this already possible with version >= 4?

<snip>
All I ever did was tell it to save in that format
</snip>

Had you to tell it for every single mail, or can you select a group of
mails?

This would be an acceptable workaround.

 TIA
-goe-

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Date:         Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:28:19 +0000
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              Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@GEOCITIES.COM>
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Does anybody know the format for built in help files?

The SDK gives the structures necessary to access the help sytem codes, =
but
does not give any insight into the format of the help file itself. I'd
appreciate any input anyone has

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Date:         Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:03:14 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Use LXSTAT.  You can find it on the S.U.P.E.R. web site.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven (Casey) Karp SMTP:skarp@RICOCHET.NET
>
> >Once it starts you need to hit ON + / in order to reverse the video
> >on the 200LX so that if you play black your pieces will be black
> >instead of white. : )
>
> Now, does anyone have a way of doing this automatically before the game
> loads and undoing it afterwards?  That seems to be the one keystroke I can
> never remember!
>
>         S.
>

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Subject:      Re: Access (or 123)  to GDB? via GDBLOAD or ?
Comments: To: "katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ" <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>

Howdy,

re:

>(My father got a boxed set << of dBase IV >>
>complete with 5 kilos of manuals at a church fair for $1.00)

OK, I'm green w/ envy now ;-)

I saw 3 boxes going to "official destruction" a few years ago .... was VERY
tempted to help "destroy" one of the sets, but it seemed a little too shady
:-(  Darn that conscience!

>How about using macros to generate your blank database files on
>the palmtop? Surely the data you are getting from Access conforms
>to a smallish family of types?

Um... I've had pretty bad thinking day (and its not going to get better); so
my brain isn't "inspired" by this one yet.

Can a macro "look" into a CSV and determine the content type (i.e. "Text,"
"Date," "Numeric," etc.) *AND* count for the longest line-length in each
field?

If there's a way, I'll go for it.

dBase would just "absorb" the CSV, "as-is," wouldn't it?  Maybe I oughtta
look for at least dBase III for DOS....

Thanks for the input.

<< for those getting to this "chain" late, I'm trying to go from Comma
Separated Value (CSV) exports, directly into creating and then filling a
.GDB database from scratch in the LX. Unless I'm wrong GDBLOAD needs to have
a .GDB database with the structure predefined >>

--tim

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Peniel
Can I possibly get a copy of your setup also to see what you did.
Thanks
Tony

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Longden Loo....

Borland C++ 2.0 is firmly ensconced on my C: drive. The C++ side is out o=
f
date but the C side of the program works fine. On a DS machine even the
Borland IDE is acceptably fast. I've used it with multiple SC sesssions.
One SC session holds the IDE; another session is used for the help screen=
s;
a third session contains Turbo debugger. I've also used a fourth SC sessi=
on
for testing programs I've written. Unless my program overwrites part of t=
he
OS, I can usually recover from a crash without having to reboot the whole=

machine.

.ed.

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:43:11 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx
Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>

Andreas Garzotto writes:
> Funny that I never heard about that. When I started implementing WWW/LX
> in 1995, I don't think this already existed, did it?

Don't know.  But it would be an ideal candidate for any future TCP/IP
TSR work.

> I am doing the same thing across the firewall in our company. I use a
> ROBOT/LX script for that. Oh, I have to say I use a ROBOT/LX script for
> all the NNTP stuff anyway.

That must be one powerful scripting language!

> I see your points. For me, they would not really work out. My main
> machine is the palmtop. All I develop, I do on it, mostly in trains or
> while waiting for something/somebody.

PNR version 3.0 and LXTCP 1.0 were written and debugged on the palmtop
in the Whitsunday Islands (Great Barrier Reef, Australia).  But when I
am at a desk, I like to use the "big" computer - then no-one can tell
that I'm actually editing a new palmtop application instead of what I
should be editing :-)

> > But with 640k in each carousel session, you can do a number of client
> > things by human multi-tasking.  Especially if you remove the GUIs ;-)
>
> By removing GUIs it might probably work. With the GUIs, impossible IMO
> because too many parts must run at the same time.
>
> Hmmm... tear down the GUIs! :-)

Amen!  But seriously, imagine if you could interface the existing
SysMgr and PAL "Open File" GUI front-ends with a FTP client back-end
which recognised file names of the type
ftp://host.com/path/to/file.txt and loaded that instead of a local
file.  This is basically what I do on the desktop already when editing
palmtop files.  Or imagine a drive X: which actually was a interface to
an FTP client which passed back the directory listings to Filer ...


-- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation --
-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:10:42 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Borland Turbo c++ 3.0 docs say 286+ processor.

Cheers

Russell

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Date:         Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:13:29 EDT
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Stephan,
My BJ-10ex does not have a serial port.

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--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:29:22 -0400
From: ab4yy@rma.edu (Mike Kelly)

> Subscriber Comments: I'm heavy into packet but don't have a decent
> portable setup and would like to go with a 200LX and KaGold.


--- end of forwarded message ---
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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You can find it at: http://www.powerleap.com/downloads/speed200.exe

I'm guessing anyone can get it.

Philippe :)

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On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote:

> You can find it at: http://www.powerleap.com/downloads/speed200.exe
>
> I'm guessing anyone can get it.
>
> Philippe :)

Using Speed600, a newer speed test, my doublespeed 200LX is pretty meaty,
the equivalent of a 12MHz AT (that's an 80286, for those of you that didn't
live in the Dark Ages.)

Ian Butler <ian@hplx.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.,
Peace love sunshine Volkswagen

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Date:         Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:37:49 -0500
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Subject:      Re: LXMap at its best
Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>

Thanks for the praise!  I really appreciate it.  No one can ever get
enough... :)

The source of the maps have been located.  The map is located at:
http://www.aegisbooks.com/ACMap.html

Even the large version of the map is difficult to read. Good Luck!

Paul_Stratton@email.msn.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 10:28 AM
Subject: LXMap at its best


I got a new LXMap submission from Paul Stratton and if you have been on the
fence about loading up this application, this should push you right over.
How
many times have you seen a US or Canadian phone number and wondered where it
was geographically located? This is a constant for me. This new LXMap takes
an
area code as input and immediately shows you where it's from!

Paul has said that he would offer the original GIF up to anyone who thinks
they
can get the image clean enough to see city names rather than just state
names.

http://www.palmtop.net/lxmap.html

And as always, thanks to Stefan Peichl for LXMap. :)
--
Mitch
SUPER Team

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Date:         Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:29:27 -0700
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Hi all,

I saw a copy of Agenda rel. 2.0 at my favorite used softeware shop Fri.
Includes the six manuals as well as the program.
Cyber Exchange #49
Phone (503) 257-7308
www.cyberexchange.com
They wanted $39.99 for the set.
You can import text files direct with the TXT2STF utility, if you want
to import a number of similar files you can build a deffination file to
put items (eg from, to, subj in e-mail messages) in your catagory of
choice. I don't use this feature, but have a full set of manuals and am
happy to look up answers for any questions.

regards,

Paul

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:22:29 -0500
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Subject:      C++ on the 200LX
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Zortech C++ 3.0 works perfectly well on the 200LX.

The problem with *any* C++ compiler that runs on the 200LX is that they're old. The C++ language
has evolved considerably since then. None of the old compilers handle templates or exceptions or
namespaces, or at least, not properly. If you go to the bookstore now and get a book on C++, much
of the stuff in the book won't work on any C++ compiler that runs on the 200LX. So you're stuck
with a C compiler with some of the old C++ extensions.
Still, that's better than straight C.

Kiyoshi Akima
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On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Kiyoshi Akima wrote:

> Zortech C++ 3.0 works perfectly well on the 200LX.

Do you have any further information on this product?  Is it commercial?
Is there a URL for it?

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Subject:      Re: Paradox for DOS
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Rich C. Johnson wrote:
>
> Tony,
> I checked the user manual over the weekend. Paradox 3.5 will import and export ascii comma delimited files. It also supports direct conversion between Paradox files and Dbase II thru IV, Lotus 123 V1 and 2.
> Hope this proves helpful.
>
> Rich
>
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I am the one that has paradox 3.5 (full set) I agree with Rich I read my
doc's and
it can do the convert as state above. I have convert CD1 FILES FOR MY
HP95LX.
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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:40:38 +0200
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From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
Subject:      Re: Access (or 123)  to GDB? via GDBLOAD or ?
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>Can a macro "look" into a CSV and determine the content type (i.e. "Text,"
>"Date," "Numeric," etc.) *AND* count for the longest line-length in each
>field?

You can do that with perl

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 03:05:38 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Cannot create file

Hello everyone

I had a strange thing happen. Something created a file called
gdb.sc which was causing my phonebook and world time to give
me the error "cannot create file" when I tried to use them.
Does anyone know where this file comes from?

John Musielewicz

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:28:14 +0200
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I tried to install 4dos 5.51 in a 4MB 200LX:
- added "shell=c:\4dos\4dos.com c:\4dos @c:\4dos.ini /p" to config.sys
- created "c:\4dos.ini" with "Inherit=Yes" (suggested by someone on this
list)
- added "set COMSPEC=c:\4dos\4dos.com" to autoexec.bat
- copied the following files from 4dos551.zip to c:\4dos
        4dos.com
        4dos.hlp
        4help.exe
        kstack.com

When I try to boot the 200LX, I get the messages:
"4DOS disk swapping initialized, ...
 4DOS 5.51    DOS 5.00
 Copyright ....

 Drive not ready--close door
 R(erty), I(gnore), F(ail), or A(bort)? "


Any ideas? Thanks in advance,
Paulo Custodio

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:19:49 +0100
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              Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>
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I had a brief flirtation with a Psion Series 5, and I'm now back to my
HP200LX. In nearly every area I'm much better of with the HP, but I'm
trying to achieve something that I could do with the Psion (and a couple
of bits of software for it).

1) I could send & receive e-mail from the Psion using a direct cable
connection setting (no modem) and its serial cable connection to a PC.
This would allow me connect to my ISP on the PC first (running Win95),
and the Psion could then send/receive e-mail & news using this
connection.

2) I could connect to my PC (again, direct cable), but no connection to
my ISP, and then receive (previously received) e-mail from my PC's
client software (Turnpike) which was acting as a POP3 server.

Has anybody achieved this with the HP and any available software? All
that I've looked at seems to require a PCMCIA modem in the HP.

If it's currently not possible, can anybody point me in the direction of
how to go about it. I'm a programmer by trade, and I have plenty of
tools (Visual C++, Delphi etc.), but no experience of internet stuff.
I'm working my way through a book on TCP/IP and suspect that a proxy
server may be required somewhere. I'm very keen to get this working, and
I would be grateful for some pointers on where to start.

Many thanks in advance.
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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:28:30 +0200
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How about the LASAT Credit 288? Does it work with the LX? In the specsheet
they tell, that it uses 1W in workmode and 0,1W in standby mode. There is
nothing about Ampere.

BTW: I don't have the URL of the HPLX compatibility database. Can anyone
tell me?

 TIA
-goe-

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:33:41 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <rBxUzAAVC2E3Iw4i@amlog.demon.co.uk> from "Chris Randle" at Apr
              13, 99 04:19:49 pm
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> If it's currently not possible, can anybody point me in the direction of
> how to go about it. I'm a programmer by trade, and I have plenty of
> tools (Visual C++, Delphi etc.), but no experience of internet stuff.
> I'm working my way through a book on TCP/IP and suspect that a proxy
> server may be required somewhere. I'm very keen to get this working, and
> I would be grateful for some pointers on where to start.

Chris:

A couple of options...  If you just want to use the PC because it has
a modem and you don't have a PCMCIA modem, then there are a couple of
programs available on S.U.P.E.R. that simply pass data through from one
COM port to another.  However, I haven't tried to get this running
under Win95, and I have NOT been able to get it running under Win98.

If you really want the PC to do routing for you, there's a formerly
shareware product called IPROUTE that has now become commercial
software.  Last time I checked, you could still get an unsupported
copy of the shareware version.  This software will turn your PC into
a gateway (kind-of like WinGate), and runs under DOS.  As for a
Windows solution, there is WinGate that might work for you.  Personally,
we've had *lots* of trouble running WinGate at my church, and have
replaced it with a hardware solution that has run trouble-free for
3 months now.  But I've heard other folks say great things about it...

Hope this helps.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:55:49 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
In-Reply-To:  <8DE7A813C6C1D211BD1B0090272A78C1225E88@N3CDOIMMAIL160M>; from
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1999-04-12-22:24:03 Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO:
> Can a macro "look" into a CSV and determine the content type (i.e. "Text,"
> "Date," "Numeric," etc.) *AND* count for the longest line-length in each
> field?

I wouldn't know about that, but I do all kinds o' CSV data file massaging in
perl, all the time. One tool, which I use _ALL_ the time, is csv-maxcols; it
simply the maximum widths found for each field in the input CSV. Works like a
champ.

Another, visibly based on the first one, does csv->dbf, and I use it whenever
I want to download a big database. Problem is, I've yet to find a tool that
can handle big gdb files in any way whatsoever. So when I've got a big table,
I use dbf format, and the dodbf1 viewer, recently discussed on this list.
Boy, is that ever fast. Had to wrap it with a batch file that did "mode bw80"
before and "mode co80" after running the executable, but other than that it
works like a champ. Yowza is it ever fast. Wish it had incremental search, and
subsets, like gdb, but whew is it _fast_.

The third tool is a csv2gdb converter in perl. It's supposed to build the
indices, so you don't get the "no records found" and need to cycle through the
different subsets in gdb, like you do with gdbload --- but it didn't work when
I flung a big table at it, so I never followed up to see if it worked better
than gdbload for smaller tables. Like gdbload this csv2gdb perl script
requires that the gdb file already exist; it can't build the gdb schema and
views from scratch.

I was gonna attach 'em to this note, but then I remembered that there are some
who turn red in the face, shriek, tear their hair out, and in general get way
too stressed if you send code to this list, so I decided not to.

Anyone wants csv-maxcols, csv2dbf, or csv2gdb perl scripts, just drop me a
note and I'll happily email 'em your way. Or you can snarf 'em via http from
my web site2.

-Bennett

1 <URL:http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/han_kleijn/dodbf102.zip>
2 <URL:http://newritz.mordor.net/~bet/csvtools.zip>

P.S. Did I mention that dodbf is _fast_?

:-)

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:02:32 -0400
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Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:00:38 -0400 (EDT)

34m20s ago ...
On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> How about the LASAT Credit 288? Does it work with the LX? In the =
specsheet
> they tell, that it uses 1W in workmode and 0,1W in standby mode. There =
is
> nothing about Ampere.

Well, assuming it uses 5V, then 1W would be 200mA - well above what the
palmtop can handle.

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:10:05 -0400
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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> I had a strange thing happen. Something created a file called
> gdb.sc which was causing my phonebook and world time to give
> me the error "cannot create file" when I tried to use them.
> Does anyone know where this file comes from?

The .sc extension sounds like it could be something to do
with Software Carousel. I seem to remember that SC won't
allow you to open phonebook/world time in two separate
sessions, in order to prevent file corruption - maybe this is
something to do with it.

 -Mike

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:16:36 -0400
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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>> With Version 3 of Lotus Notes I had the ability to save copies of messages
>> in the old CCMail Archive format
>>
> Is this already possible with version >= 4?
>
>> All I ever did was tell it to save in that format
>>
> Had you to tell it for every single mail, or can you select a group of mails?
>
> This would be an acceptable workaround.

I'm on Notes release 4.5.2 which shows me no Save options, but rather the
following Export options for a memo currently open on the screen:

ASCII Text
MS-Word RTF
CGM Image
TIFF 5.0 Image

...while my options for Import into an open memo are:

ASCII Text
MS-Word RTF
CGM Image
TIFF 5.0 Image
Binary with Text
Lotus 123 Worksheet
GIF Image
JPEG Image

If I select a group of files from the list in my Mail Inbox window, I can Export
only the listing (not the actual messages) and my Export options become:

Structured Text
Tabular Text
Lotus 123 Worksheet

...and apparently I can Import the same filetypes ?!

Note that there is a Save As New Version command, but it refers to revisions -
not file formats - and is only functional if the database is so designed.

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> Peniel
> Can I possibly get a copy of your setup also to see what you did.
> Thanks
> Tony

And, please, some cool screenshots placed on a Web page somewhere so the rest of
us can see what all the fuss is about?

Bruce in Toronto

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:17:39 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Rever4 in SUPER files base/misc questions

>Use LXSTAT.  You can find it on the S.U.P.E.R. web site.
>
>Phil

  Hmm... the LXSTAT utility is great, and I'll make use of it in other
ways, (Thanks for mentioning it, Phil) but the Othello program itself
seems to nullify the effects of "LXSTAT /".  That line in the batch file
does reverse the display, but the program itself seems to switch the
display back to where it was again after it loads.

  So, apparently the only way to reverse the screen for this game is to
do it manually with the "ON + /" key combination after it's loaded.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:25:27 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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A 123 macro can parse a CSV string into individual cells.
Try this...

Cell A1 contains: '"hello","world","what","is","on","TV",123
Select <MENU><Data><Parse><Format-Line><Create><Format-Line><Edit>
Move the cursor to the right and place an upper-case letter "L" above each
new field in the (was cell A1, now cell A2) cell below. example:

cell A1 - L>>>>>>>L>>>>>>>L>>>>>>L>>>>L>>>>L>>>>V>>
cell A2 - "hello","world","what","is","on","TV",123

Note the "V" above the "value" field.
Now press <enter>. You should be looking at a box marked "Parse Settings".

Select <Input-Column> (press right arrow) press <enter><.><down><enter>
(press down to reach the bottom of your data)
Select <Output-Range><enter> and move the cursor to cell F2 press <.> and
move the cursor to N2 (note, if you have more than one string in the "A"
column, move the cursor down to the bottom row of your data) press <enter>
Select <Go><enter>

Go look in cells F2 through N2.

This is only a demo of the Parse stuff, how you use it in a macro is up to
you.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bennett Todd SMTP:bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET
>
> 1999-04-12-22:24:03 Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO:
> > Can a macro "look" into a CSV and determine the content type (i.e.
> "Text,"
> > "Date," "Numeric," etc.) *AND* count for the longest line-length in each
> > field?
>

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Then I would suggest Keystuff?  It's also on the S.U.P.E.R. site.  Keystuff
will put keystrokes in the keyboard buffer that get "executed" after the end
of the next DOS command.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John J Vanderstel SMTP:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM
>
>   Hmm... the LXSTAT utility is great, and I'll make use of it in other
> ways, (Thanks for mentioning it, Phil) but the Othello program itself
> seems to nullify the effects of "LXSTAT /".  That line in the batch file
> does reverse the display, but the program itself seems to switch the
> display back to where it was again after it loads.
>
> John Vander Stel
>

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:05:30 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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If you retrieved David Lawrence's new file WTNOTE.ZIP, plese get it again from
teh SUPER Site. The first posting did not have the World Time Database in the
zip archive. Sorry about that!

http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/sup-srch.pl?case=i&method=words&boolean=or&sort=alpha&search_phrase=wtnote.zip
--
Mitch
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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:25:15 +0200
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Hi everyone,

        i am developing a telemedicine project. In order to test it, i am
using HP200Lx. But i need more units (about 4-5 more).

        Knows someone where can i buy them ? Price per unit ??
(including trip, custom, ...)
        Would be possible in spanish language ??

        As soon as possible

        Fran

____________________________________________

Francisco Ignacio Campoy Blasco
Grupo de Bioingenieria y Telemedicina
E.T.S.I. Telecomunicacion  -  UPM
Ciudad Universitaria  s/n
28040 Madrid, Spain

Tel  +34 91 5495700   Ext 332
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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:17:06 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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> Has anybody achieved this with the HP and any available software? All
> that I've looked at seems to require a PCMCIA modem in the HP.

I can just speak for WWW/LX, but I think other packages can do that
too. In WWW.CFG set Modem=0 to make it a direct connection and not a
modem connection and set Port=1 to use COM1 (Port=2 would be the PCMCIA
modem).

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:18:48 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Comments: To: Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>

>HP200LX. In nearly every area I'm much better of with the HP, but I'm
>trying to achieve something that I could do with the Psion (and a couple
>of bits of software for it).


Have you looked at the Pegasus email package? It has a DOS port, and you can
run the full Windows version on your pc. Mail files are the same.


Have a nice day!

Franklin

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:53:39 -0400
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I'm trying to install Jkit again on my palmtop and when it tries to install
ems I get the following error message: too many clusters. I tried Norton
Utilities, defrag and scandisk on both my flashcard and C drive. I also tried
and initialized my C drive but I still get the same error message. There are
no hidden files and all results are fine. When I look for lxemm.dat it states
that it's not installed. When I try to install ems manually I get the same
error message. Any ideas.
TIA
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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:10:41 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: LASAT PCMCIA Modem
Comments: To: Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>

It uses too much current.


Stephan Goeldi writes:
> How about the LASAT Credit 288? Does it work with the LX? In the specsheet
> they tell, that it uses 1W in workmode and 0,1W in standby mode. There is
> nothing about Ampere.
>
> BTW: I don't have the URL of the HPLX compatibility database. Can anyone
> tell me?
>
>  TIA
> -goe-
>
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Cannot create file
Comments: To: Mike Wagstaff <aj93@dial.pipex.com>

Mike Wagstaff writes:
> > I had a strange thing happen. Something created a file called
> > gdb.sc which was causing my phonebook and world time to give
> > me the error "cannot create file" when I tried to use them.
> > Does anyone know where this file comes from?
>
> The .sc extension sounds like it could be something to do
> with Software Carousel. I seem to remember that SC won't
> allow you to open phonebook/world time in two separate
> sessions, in order to prevent file corruption - maybe this is
> something to do with it.
>

Could be. I do have SC installed. Maybe it just became corrupted.

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:20:40 -0700
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              Ian Butler <ian@HPLX.NET>
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On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Paulo Custodio wrote:

> When I try to boot the 200LX, I get the messages:
> "4DOS disk swapping initialized, ...
>  4DOS 5.51    DOS 5.00
>  Copyright ....
>
>  Drive not ready--close door
>  R(erty), I(gnore), F(ail), or A(bort)? "
>
>
> Any ideas? Thanks in advance,
> Paulo Custodio

Mine does that as well, although I use a newer version of 4DOS.  There's no
problem if I have my flash in the drive, though.  I can't figure it out, so
I either just boot with the flash in, or hit Ignore to make the error go
away.  It boots normally for me if I ignore the error...

Ian Butler <ian@hplx.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.,
Peace love sunshine Volkswagen

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:31:14 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      150 mA pcmcia card limit

Does anyone know at what voltage the 150 mA limit applies.
Thanks

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:26:19 -0400
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              Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
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 Anyone know if anyplace/anyone sells shorter connection cables or custom
made?? i'll even take a place where i can pick up the connection head for
the DOS-LX palmtop

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:42:31 -0400
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Subject:      Re: 150 mA pcmcia card limit
Comments: To: John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
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On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

the 150mA limit is when the unit is running off batterys only, when i have
AC pluged in i can run almost any card

> Does anyone know at what voltage the 150 mA limit applies.
> Thanks
>
> John
>
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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:43:22 -0400
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i should add and build the cable myself if i can get the connection head!


On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Sputnik wrote:

>  Anyone know if anyplace/anyone sells shorter connection cables or custom
> made?? i'll even take a place where i can pick up the connection head for
> the DOS-LX palmtop
>
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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:43:33 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Cable?

Shier makes custom cables. There is a place in minnesota that
sells the end but I can't remember the name. Anyone?


Sputnik writes:
>  Anyone know if anyplace/anyone sells shorter connection cables or custom
> made?? i'll even take a place where i can pick up the connection head for
> the DOS-LX palmtop
>
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Subject:      Re: 150 mA pcmcia card limit
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On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Sputnik wrote:

> the 150mA limit is when the unit is running off batterys only, when i
> have AC pluged in i can run almost any card

This is a BAD idea, as detailed in the FAQ for the 200LX.  The power
supply for the 200LX's PCMCIA socket is not designed to supply more than
150ma regardless of whether the palmtop is being used with the adapter or
the batteries.  Running cards that use more than that can kill your 200LX.

> > Does anyone know at what voltage the 150 mA limit applies.
> > Thanks

As for John's original question, the SDK states:

The quoted maximum power available at the card port on the HP
palmtop is

150 mA @ 5v = 750 mW (this is on the Vcc pin)
60 mA @ 12v = 720 mW (this is on the Vpp pins)

where both can be active at the same time.

This value is limited by the output of the power supply and not by whether
it is running on battery versus AC, although battery life would certainly
be shortened by high current draws.

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:51:29 -0700
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              Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
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Subject:      HP Connectivity program on Windows NT 4.0
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Filer doesn't seem to work (as opposed to all the others). Anyone knows
what's wrong. When I try to start it, the screen blinks but nothing happens.
I yeah, and I know this was intended for DOS, although everything seems to
be working pretty well...

Or is there an alternative for NT?

Philippe :)

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:51:34 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: 150 mA pcmcia card limit
Comments: To: Sputnik <sputnik@voicenet.com>

The voltage/current is the same when running off batteries
or adapter. Its just the adapter will supply current longer
than the batteries will on a high drain card. What I was asking
was since the pcmcia port is a dual 12/5 volt port is the limit
at 12 or 5 volts. I'm pretty sure its at 5 but just wanted to
confirm it. Thanks for your response.

Sputnik writes:
> On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> the 150mA limit is when the unit is running off batterys only, when i have
> AC pluged in i can run almost any card
>
> > Does anyone know at what voltage the 150 mA limit applies.
> > Thanks
> >
> > John
> >
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> >
> >
>

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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: 150 mA pcmcia card limit

>
> The quoted maximum power available at the card port on the HP
> palmtop is
>
> 150 mA @ 5v = 750 mW (this is on the Vcc pin)
> 60 mA @ 12v = 720 mW (this is on the Vpp pins)
>
> where both can be active at the same time.

Thanks. Now, would it be possible to run a 3.3 volt card
using a 5 volt port. In other words would it be possible
to get the port to supply a dual 5/3.3 instead of 12/5?
The reason I ask is the port would supply about 250 mA
with a 3 volt card. Plus a lot of the newer cards are
3 volt. It would open up a bunch of possibilities.

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:47:17 -0500
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Subject:      Re: HP Connectivity program on Windows NT 4.0
In-Reply-To:  <007001be8608$a1a7c660$8b65140a@siebel.com> from "Philippe Lewis"
              at Apr 13, 99 04:51:29 pm
Content-Type: text

> Filer doesn't seem to work (as opposed to all the others). Anyone knows
> what's wrong. When I try to start it, the screen blinks but nothing happens.
> I yeah, and I know this was intended for DOS, although everything seems to
> be working pretty well...

Alas, this is a mysterious thing!  For a couple of years, I ran CPACK
and FILER just fine on my NT system at work,  then all of a sudden
FILER quits working just in the manner you describe.  About 4 months
later, (I know, because I check it periodically) it started working
again just as mysteriously as it quit!!  Others here on this list have
reported similar behaviour, so I knew to just keep trying....  Good
luck.

-Chris

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:00:38 -0400
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Subject:      Re: HP Connectivity program on Windows NT 4.0
Comments: cc: p.lewis@USA.NET

   >Filer doesn't seem to work (as opposed to all the others). Anyone
   >knows what's wrong. When I try to start it, the screen blinks but
   >nothing happens. I yeah, and I know this was intended for DOS,
   >although everything seems to be working pretty well...
   >Or is there an alternative for NT?
Message-Id: <19990414010035.ITNV2760@12.72.154.236>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:00:35 +0000

I use Transfile on NT 4.0.  Works fine enough for simple transfers.

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:58:13 -0500
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Sputnik,
Send me an email-I may have some parts.
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Microscan barcode laser scanner

Here is how to connect a 200LX as a terminal to a laser scanner
card and set it up for programming. Hope its clear!

Programming the Microscan scanner board:GBIpricer
Instructions to enable RPK to Read single and dual
fields. (Pako and CX)

1. Connect a terminal. If using the HP200LX with datacomm
and the nine pin serial cable with a 25 pin to 9 pin
adapter use a 25 pin male to 25 pin female cable to
hookup to the scanner port. Connect the pins on the cable
pin 1 to pin 1, pin 2 to pin 2, pin 3 to pin 3, and pin 7
to pin 7.

2. Set protocol to 9600 baud, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit,
and no parity.

3. Enter <D>. Enter all three characters. Use capitals.

4.Press the space bar to see the following response:
               Main-->Operations

5. Press the space bar again to see, response:
               Main-->Code Types

6. Press the Enter key.
               Code Types-->Scanner #1
7. Press the Enter Key.
               Scanner #1-->Narrow Margins:Disabled
8. Press the space bar twice to see:
               Scanner #1-->Codabar
9. Press the enter key.
10 Press the space bar 7 times until you see:
               Scanner #1-->Codabar-->Barcode
format=single
11. Press the enter key.
12. Continue to press the space bar until you see:
               Scanner #1-->Codabar-->Barcode
format=single&dual-->single & dual.
13. Press the enter key.
14. Press the esc key.
15. Select E for exit.
16. Select Y for save. Card should beep.
17. Reconnect the cable that comes from the RPK to P6
connector. Now the scanner should read both types of
bags.

NOTE 1

1. N key or space bar key scrolls forward.
2. B key scrolls backward.
3. Enter key enables or accesses various options.
4. M key returns to the previous menu.
5. ESC key gives the option to exit or return to the main
menu.
6. <D> entered exactly with all three keys starts editing
program
7. <C> starts scanner read rate test.

NOTE 2


COMMUNICATIONS
baud rate=9600
parity=none
stop bit=one
data bit=eight
RS422=enabled
LRC=disabled
Protocol (menu)
      point to point=enabled
Preamble=M
Preamble=disabled
Postamble=MJ
Postamble=Enabled

OPERATIONS
triggering mode=continous one output
end of read cycle=timeout
timeout=50
serial trigger character=
ext. trigger level=positive
no read message=U
no read message=enabled
barcode output=enabled
when to output=as soon as possible
package detect=disabled
# of reads before a good decode=
                           1 (on ultima 35)
                           3 (on manual login)
Match Code=enabled
Code Types (menu)
narrow margins=disabled
transition count=70
code 39
     status=disabled
codabar
     status=enabled
     start&stop match=disabled
     start&stop output=enabled
     large intercharacter gap=enabled
     partial dual field=disabled
     envelope start character=C
     envelope character must match=disabled
     barcode format=single and dual
     fixed code length=disabled
     code length 3-31=10
     12 of 5 status=enabled

USER OUTPUTS
beeper=disabled(manual login)
       enabled (ultima 35)
relay driver=mismatch or no read
new master pin=disabled
good/bad polarity=positive
good/bad pulse width=5


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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:23:56 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Subject:      X-Finder, Wow!!!

Well, I finally have X-Finder installed on my LX and it really is a 'Wow!'
application. Now I just have to figure out how to get the .env file
configured. I have been a 'power user' of Stereo Shell, but I think that
once I get X-Finder working properly, I will switch to it.

I'm curious if anyone is using the LE (LogExpress) and ME (MemoExpress)
software that the docs make mention of for their editor and viewer? If so,
how well do they function and where can I find 'em?

73 Jeff W4JEF

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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>> Zortech C++ 3.0 works perfectly well on the 200LX.
>
>Do you have any further information on this product?  Is it commercial?
>Is there a URL for it?

It's an old commercial compiler. My 3.1 disks are dated December 1992. 3.1 also works on the LX,
if my memory serves me correctly.
I don't have an URL handy, but Zortech was bought by Symantec sometime between 3.0 and 3.1. Since
then, Symantec has updated the compiler, I remember seeing a 6.0 sometime back, but it probably
only works on 286+ machines.
And no, before you ask, mine is not for sale. Sorry.

Kiyoshi Akima
kakima@ix.netcom.com

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Can someone that is using pkunzip with X-Finder tell me how to set it up in
the .env file so that it will work properly? I followed the instructions in
the docs that said to replace unzip with pkunzip but when I try to extract
the files I get an error and pkunzip give me a help message. Thanks in
advance!

73 Jeff

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Howdy,

On the NT side, you have to have administrator rights first of all. Go to
start-settings-control panel. Configure the serial ports as direct
connect and the baud rate of your choice and save. Do not try to connect
until you have rebooted. If you are below service pack 3, you might have
to upgrade. I ahve to go through this again at work and most likely will
do it within the next week. Reply if you want me to take notes.

David Peterson

On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:51:29 -0700 Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
writes:
>Filer doesn't seem to work (as opposed to all the others). Anyone
>knows
>what's wrong. When I try to start it, the screen blinks but nothing
>happens.
>I yeah, and I know this was intended for DOS, although everything
>seems to
>be working pretty well...
>
>Or is there an alternative for NT?
>
>Philippe :)
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Chris wrote:
>I had a brief flirtation with a Psion Series 5, and I'm now back
>to my HP200LX. In nearly every area I'm much better of with the HP...

Chris - While being very happy with my hp200lx (it goes everywhere with
me) I had in the back of my mind that the day it dies I'd have to
seriously consider the Psion5.  (But the way hp build 'em to last it
might be a Psion6/7/8...).  One of the points that attracts me to the
Psion5 is its size (the WinCE stuff is not only low on functionality but
BIG) and it seems to pretty ruggedly built.

Can you summarize for us (me at least) what were the things you missed
most from the hp when you went to the Psion?

TIA
Jez

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Sorry Chris - I've let the subject meander around the grey matter for a
few days and nothing more came back to me.  I made my own search of the
hp app notes but the web site only goes back a few years (certainly not
to the early '70s!) and I too found nothing - although there are good
notes on pulse operation vs. lifetime.

I can only suggest trying it yourself...
Sorry
Jez
___________________________________________________________________

I've been trying to search the HP app notes for this, and haven't had
any luck.  Can you remember any more about this note than what you've
told us so far?  I would really like to learn more about this subject.

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Subject:      derive

Hello

I am trying to multiply two vectors in derive. It isn't doing
it right because I am setting it up wrong. Can someone explain
how to do it? I'd look in the manual only I don't have one<g>.
Thanks.

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I looked at 4dos briefly about a month ago. I had the same problem before I
configured it. One I set all my paths explictly, the problem went away. Good
luck!

Mike

Ian Butler wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Paulo Custodio wrote:
>
> > When I try to boot the 200LX, I get the messages:
> > "4DOS disk swapping initialized, ...
> >  4DOS 5.51    DOS 5.00
> >  Copyright ....
> >
> >  Drive not ready--close door
> >  R(erty), I(gnore), F(ail), or A(bort)? "
> >
> >
> > Any ideas? Thanks in advance,
> > Paulo Custodio
>
> Mine does that as well, although I use a newer version of 4DOS.  There's no
> problem if I have my flash in the drive, though.  I can't figure it out, so
> I either just boot with the flash in, or hit Ignore to make the error go
> away.  It boots normally for me if I ignore the error...
>
> Ian Butler <ian@hplx.net>
> Advanced Software Systems, Inc.,
> Peace love sunshine Volkswagen
>
> Adapt.  Enjoy.  Survive.
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Does MS Quick C v2 work on the LX?

Mike...

Kiyoshi Akima wrote:

> >> Zortech C++ 3.0 works perfectly well on the 200LX.
> >
> >Do you have any further information on this product?  Is it commercial?
> >Is there a URL for it?
>
> It's an old commercial compiler. My 3.1 disks are dated December 1992. 3.1 also works on the LX,
> if my memory serves me correctly.
> I don't have an URL handy, but Zortech was bought by Symantec sometime between 3.0 and 3.1. Since
> then, Symantec has updated the compiler, I remember seeing a 6.0 sometime back, but it probably
> only works on 286+ machines.
> And no, before you ask, mine is not for sale. Sorry.
>
> Kiyoshi Akima
> kakima@ix.netcom.com
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The things I missed from the HP were:
warning this list might grow long :-)  p.s. It did!

1) Ruggedness. The Psion never felt as if it would survive a drop on the
floor. The screen finally cracked when it got squeezed between my
(palmtop friendly padded) stomach and the steering wheel of my car. I've
never broken any other PDA, and I've had about 10 in my time. Two things
particularly stand out. a) Go to a store selling the Series 5, and open
and close the CF-slot cover. See? b) Try opening the case with one hand
without it jumping to the floor; try shutting it with one hand without
it snapping shut like a glasses case. This (according to posts I've read
in NGs) can shatter the glass.

2) Database. And remember, phone books are databases too! It is nothing
more than an ordered list on the Psion. There are no subsets as on the
HP. The 'Find' function works on all fields, so you can't even reliably
find/filter based on the contents of a category field, e.g.,  if that
word is likely to appear elsewhere. I tried a 3rd party database (quite
a functional one) from Purple Software. It was OK, but it was trying to
emulate Access, complete with multiple windows. This just doesn't work
on a small screen. You feel swamped by the interface and lose sight of
the data. The little database on the HP is fantastic. If only you could
sort by check boxes and radio button groups, and if only there could be
a "parameter" subset, so you could say "Country = Which Country" and
it asked you for the value to filter on, and if only...

3) Lotus 1-2-3 and Solver. They're not used every day by me, but when
they are, there's no substitute.

4) The general crispness of response from the apps. The idea of the
"soft-prompt" function keys, so that you can remember a series of
keystrokes and queue them, but the prompts are always there if you
forget. The shortcuts on the Psion are ludicrous and inconsistent (see
6) and once you're in the menu system, you can't jump around without
loads of cursor key presses.

5) Keyboard. I seem to be in a minority here. For pecking and thumb use,
I prefer the HP. The Psion's keys didn't have the tactile feedback and
the case was a little wider, so that when cradled in two hands, I had to
swivel my hands to reach the middle (horizontally) keys.

6) Consistent interface. Most (all?) apps on the HP managed to keep the
same keystrokes. They seem to be made up as they went along on the
Psion. In one app Ctrl-D would delete a record, in another it would be
Ctrl-Shift-D. Stupid ideas, such as Ctrl-N being a new file and Ctrl-
Shift-N being a new record. Which do you do more often? No sticky keys,
so typing Shift-Ctrl-Fn-T is fun, and believe me those four finger
functions were quite common. Nearly all the software on the Psion felt
half-finished, as I believe it was. My understanding of the situation
was that the software was rushed out to meet the marketing of the
hardware. A ROM upgrade was promised but never (to date AFAIK)
materialised.

7) Screen. I found the Psion's screen to be out of focus. I guess it's
all those backlight and touch-screen layers. It was better with the
backlight on, but then battery life would drop to about 5 hours. Talking
of touch screens, I found I used it far less than I imagined I would.

8) Searching. This was a big annoyance for me. In the HP, you attach
notes to entries, and you can search on them. On the Psion there are no
notes fields. You embed (for example) a Psion Word document. A search
does not search the embedded text. For me this rendered the whole thing
next to useless.

9) Macros. The Psion came without a macro facility. But to be fair,
there was a freeware utility call Macro5, which was so good it's
character seemed to overshadow the entire machine.

10) DOS. But then I'm an old fart.


Things I miss from the Psion:

1) Backlight

2) Slightly more flexible (for me) e-mail abilities

3) Backlight

4) Voice recorder. Although looking back I hardly ever used it
seriously, mostly to entertain young children.

5) Backlight

6) Alarms. It was the one single area where they seemed to have got it
right. I like the multiple daily alarms that could be disabled. I liked
the ability to stop all sounds for a given time. I've since seen that
200Buddy can do the temporary sound disable.

7) Backlight. And if anybody technical and commercial is reading this, I
for one would pay proper money (not $1 - $50) to have a proper backlight
on the HP200. I used it in murky pubs, and to read in bed at night
without disturbing my wife.


Sorry for the length of this post, but you did ask, and I have a lot of
opinions, as you can see.


In article <37143B90.CCA662A2@alcatel.fr>, Jez
<Jez.Cunningham@alcatel.fr> writes
>Chris wrote:
>>I had a brief flirtation with a Psion Series 5, and I'm now back
>>to my HP200LX. In nearly every area I'm much better of with the HP...
>
>Chris - While being very happy with my hp200lx (it goes everywhere with
>me) I had in the back of my mind that the day it dies I'd have to
>seriously consider the Psion5.  (But the way hp build 'em to last it
>might be a Psion6/7/8...).  One of the points that attracts me to the
>Psion5 is its size (the WinCE stuff is not only low on functionality but
>BIG) and it seems to pretty ruggedly built.
>
>Can you summarize for us (me at least) what were the things you missed
>most from the hp when you went to the Psion?
>
>TIA
>Jez

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As the author of LXMAP I want to point you to a little utility
which can be used as a layer on top of LXMAP in order to select
one map out of a collection, which cannot be done by LXMAP
itself.

The advantage of this little power menu program is,
that you can give a map a very long name, explaining what the
map is really about.

For example, you may have forgotten what NSW.IDX stands for.
In my power menu ini file, I have a line like:

{New South Wales, Australia}c:\bin\lxmap.com c:\map\nsw.idx

and the power menu programm only shows:

New South Wales, Australia

If I move the cursor to this line and press enter, LXMAP
displays New South Wales.

The free power menu program is only 3KB in size. Download from:

http://bin.alkaid.ml.org/alkaid/dos/power-10.zip

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Just my luck - I replied to this post yesterday, and said that my NT
installation had just started working.  Well, this morning it was
busted again!  Argghhh...

> On the NT side, you have to have administrator rights first of all. Go to
> start-settings-control panel. Configure the serial ports as direct
> connect and the baud rate of your choice and save.

I decided to try your procedure, even though I have tried similar things
in the past.  Can you explain exactly where you get the option to set
the port as DIRECT CONNECT?  I went to the section on serial ports, but
this wasn't a choice that I could find.

-Chris

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Subject:      radio modems

Does anyone still use these with their 200LX? Has the form factor
gotten any smaller or do they still stick out of the side aways?
Whats the power drain like?

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You need to run the OPTION program to set the paths for autoexec, etc. to
look at the proper drives.

Cheers,
Mack

> On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Paulo Custodio wrote:
>
> > When I try to boot the 200LX, I get the messages:
> > "4DOS disk swapping initialized, ...
> >  4DOS 5.51    DOS 5.00
> >  Copyright ....
> >
> >  Drive not ready--close door
> >  R(erty), I(gnore), F(ail), or A(bort)? "

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Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:23:10 -0400 (EDT)

08h58m39s ago ...
On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> I'm curious if anyone is using the LE (LogExpress) and ME (MemoExpress)
> software that the docs make mention of for their editor and viewer? If =
so,
> how well do they function and where can I find 'em?

Hi Jeff and group -

AFAIK - LE & ME require the JKIT Japanese environment and fonts.  At
least that's what I read in PTP...   Just DLd both, and will maybe give
'em a try anyway.   If you want to give it a shot - they're at:
        http://www.vector.co.jp/pack/dos/util/machine/hp/
along with X-Finder and a lot of cool stuff.  (All with Japanese docs,
though).  I forgot to mention before - you should grab IconEdit from
the same site for use with X-Finder.  (I think it's in the ICON
subdirectory).

As for your other query about pkunzip, I don't know the answer.  Maybe
Alan or someone else does...

-Peniel
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Great Information, but I can't keep up with the reading.......


        Later...

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Saw the posting go by, and would like to know if you have  or know where I
could get the connector that fits the HP 200lx... I was told a shown that
with a little bit of work (and some glue) that two CD-ROM audio cables
could be adapted to do the job, but it would REALLY look HOMEMADE then..

 ANy help would be great!!!

                Thanks in Advance,.
                C.

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> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: cables
> Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 8:58 PM
>
> Sputnik,
> Send me an email-I may have some parts.
> Tom
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OK, I knew that the Times 2 Tech memory was pretty robust, and I found
out how robust it was yesterday.

I needed to totally reset my HP, so I backed it up, took the two AA
batteries out, took out the backup battery, and held down the on button
for 60 seconds.

I then put everything back, turned on, set up the drivers on the
original 2mb drive, and rebooted.


To my absolute amazement, there was all the data on my T2T 32mb drive
staring back at me!

A quick run of the format utility from T2T and the data was finally
gone.

That is bullet proof.

The down side to this is the security, but it is a little slim.  The
person who found the palmtop would have to know wat drivers to load,
and where to get them.  This is also going to be made dificult by the
fact that the screen is garbled until the speed drivers are loaded.


Dave E

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Would anyone be interested in getting into COMDEX free?
I have a free entry ticket.

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Cam wrote:
>
> Saw the posting go by, and would like to know if you have  or know where I
> could get the connector that fits the HP 200lx...

Cam,

  Usually, we only provide this info to active subscribers of the list
&)

john

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Hi,

I just bought Software Carousel from Rundel (Germany)
and it arrived today.

I installed it and it seems to work OK.
But there is one thing I don't understand:

I load some TSRs in my autoexec.bat like
DOSED
LXPRO
CICFAKE
and others.

But if I switch to the (predefined) WA3 (DOS3.BAT)
with CTRL-3 and do the command 'mem /c' no one of the
TSRs is listed. But LXPRO works. And DOSED doesn't.
(Now, if I'll send this mail, I'll see if CICFAKE works ;-) ).

I haven't moved any TSR to any of the .BAT files for the
WAs. I load all of them in my normal a:\autoexec.bat.

What's up there?
Where are my TSRs?

TIA+GTX
daniel

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Hi,

OK, as you can see, CICFAKE works, too.
But what about DOSED? It's like DOSKEY, but has additionally
filename completition.
And why aren't the TSRs listed by mem /c ?

GTX
daniel

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--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date- Wed, 14 Apr 1999 05:12:13 -0400
From- vincent.rikkink@xemics.ch (Vincent Rikkink)

Subscriber Comments: I would like to use my HP palmtop 200lx with the
Motorola Cellect1+ card which I recently bought. I tried to run the
program celectdr.exe but it returns every time with:

Not using Card Services.
Modem initialisation failed
Please re-run with /D option to diagnose

With the /D option it does not recognize that a modem card has been
inserted.

When I however run my communication program (Goin'Postal), it recognizes
the Motorola Celect 1+ card (with standard initialisation) and then....
my phone switches off which is a .... Motorola CD920.

I tried different initializations, etc. etc. but everytime my phone
switches off.

Ofcourse, I subscribed to the data facilities of my provider (Swisscom).

Could anyone help me how I can use a GSM PCMCIA card with my HP200LX
palmtop and my cellular Motorola phone

Thanks,
Vincent Rikkink


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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:24:40 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM>
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     The challenge has been answered.  There is now a cleaner version of the
map (temporarily located at http://web.raex.com/~striegel/HPLX/ac.pcx).  All
of the city names should be more readable.  Please check it over and give me
any feedback.

     Mitch, feel free to relocate a copy of this map to the LXMAP page.

Alan

>From:  Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) SMTP:mitch@PALMTOP.NET
>Sent:  Monday, April 12, 1999 11:23 AM
>...
>Paul has said that he would offer the original GIF up to anyone who thinks
they
>can get the image clean enough to see city names rather than just state
names.

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Subject:      Re: (NONE)

Don't know about v2, but v2.51 with assembler works fine on mine.
Mike


Mike Schneider writes:
> Does MS Quick C v2 work on the LX?
>
> Mike...
>

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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:31:33 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> wrote:

> AFAIK - LE & ME require the JKIT Japanese environment and fonts.

Peniel and/or others on the list, what editors are you using with X-Finder?
PE seems to work well as an editor, but it would be nice to a quick viewer.
Any and all comments/suggestions are welcomed.

73 Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:48:02 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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Hello All,

I was thinking that what the palmtop really needs is EXM
Phone/Appt/Notetaker/Database frontends for DBF format files.  We would need
a way to pull in our data into DBF files and then we would need similar
capabilities such as searching, subsets, different sorts, different views,
etc., but do them with external files to the database rather than
integrating them in unlike what they have done with the HP GDB format.

It seems to me that a DBF format would be the easiest for exchanging data as
well as creating Sync type apps, and having the viewing info and indices
outside of the database would offer much more flexibility.

I would like to hear more ideas on the subject if folks think it is a viable
idea and if there are folks out there with enough EXM experience to do it.

Cheers,
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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:26:52 -0400
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Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:22:22 -0400 (EDT)

54m50s ago ...
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Peniel and/or others on the list, what editors are you using with =
X-Finder?
> PE seems to work well as an editor, but it would be nice to a quick =
viewer.
> Any and all comments/suggestions are welcomed.

I have it set to use VDE for the editor, and Buerg's LIST for the
viewer, plus VIEW as an alternate viewer for Word, WP etc docs.  LIST
is fast, VIEW is slower, because it checks for document type before
displaying.

-Peniel
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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:52:20 -0500
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              Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM>
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Recently a friend from work gave me an old IBM PC Convertible - an old,
old laptop with 2 720k drives.  There were only 2 diskettes with it
(neither one originals) - the Dos 3.3 disk with some cute little custom
utilities designed just for the pc and an AlphaWorks disk with the
stripped down version (no help files, no dictionary, no thesarus).
After copying the 570k worth of files to my flash card, I tried out the
software - the AlpahWorks has a great little databse in it and the word
processor isn't too bad either.  (I'm not a spreadsheet user so I
couldn't judge that part.)  I'd really like to find a full version of
this software just to get the database.

The only info I have is the name (of course) and the copyright which is:

1988 - Electric Software
1986 - Microlytics, Inc (for the thesaurus)

A web search produced nothing - alphaworks is one of IBM's numerous
sites and dominated the results.

Any leads appreciated. Thanks,

Terry Owen
work: towen@quintrex.com
home: owen6511@earthlink.net

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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:27:32 -0500, Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:31:33 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET=
> wrote:
>
> > AFAIK - LE & ME require the JKIT Japanese environment and fonts.
>
> Peniel and/or others on the list, what editors are you using with =
X-Finder?
> PE seems to work well as an editor, but it would be nice to a quick =
viewer.
> Any and all comments/suggestions are welcomed.

Hi Jeff & Members,

I use MS-DOS Editor v0.9.019, Its small and fast.
also pkzip/unzip does not work with X-Finder per. The PTP November /
December 1998 issue, page 10.

BTW: Has anybody located TaskBar thats mentioned in the finder.env.
I'm wondering if its anything like like TaskList?


Regards,

Qman...

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              Tamas Feher <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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Subject:      Small scanner/fax, folding acoustic coupler.

        Hello all,

I came across this website by mistake: <www.bansai.com>
There's a small 1lbs, 200x200 dpi fax/scanner described, which
runs on batteries. It can be used for scanning via a modem
card, with the provided scanning/fax software.

Under the accessories section of this page, I've seen a nice
folding design acoustic coupler; if anyone uses these novadays.

The site seems to be pretty old (although I doubt that it's been
last updated 10/95, as stated!). Did someone use this device, or
seen it being used?

Not connected to the company, just noticed.

                            Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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If you retrieved Paul Stratton's areacode.zip file from palmtop.net,
please grab it again.  Alan Striegel reworked the PCX file to make the
city names more visible and it looks much better.

ftp://ftp.palmtop.net/pub/maps/areacode.zip

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>1988 - Electric Software
>1986 - Microlytics, Inc (for the thesaurus)
>
>A web search produced nothing - alphaworks is one of IBM's numerous
>sites and dominated the results.
>
>Any leads appreciated. Thanks,

Hi Terry

I searched using www.dogpile.com using info you tendered. Electric Software
Alphaworks.

Try http://www.glowcode.com/summary.htm

It seems they may be the people mentioned.

Cheers

Russell
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On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:58:16 -0700, Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> also pkzip/unzip does not work with X-Finder per. The PTP November /
> December 1998 issue, page 10.

Hmmm.... the docs that come with it say to replace unzip with pkunzip. Where
can I find unzip, is it on S.U.P.E.R.? Is there a corresponding ZIP program
that I should also obtain?

> BTW: Has anybody located TaskBar thats mentioned in the finder.env.
> I'm wondering if its anything like like TaskList?

Once again, hmmmm.... I hope to play around with this thing some more
tonight, it's quite intriguing :) I just need to round up all these
necessary little files.

73 Jeff

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Following this lead, I found that AlphaWorks became LotusWorks and is
now discontinued according to the Lotus website.  Anyone have a copy of
LotusWorks they want to unload?

Terry
towen@quintrex.com
owen6511@earthlink.net

p.s. I would have never thought of looking at dogpile.com

> ----------
> From:         Russell HemerySMTP:rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU
> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List; Russell Hemery
> Sent:         Wednesday, April 14, 1999 12:09 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      Re: Wanted: Alphaworks
>
> I searched using www.dogpile.com using info you tendered. Electric
> Software
> Alphaworks.
>
> Try http://www.glowcode.com/summary.htm
>
> It seems they may be the people mentioned.
>
> Cheers
>
> Russell
> Sleepless in Ozland (3am)
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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:41:59 -0400
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              Tamas Feher <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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Subject:      Urgent: Palmtop CIRCUIT update, long post.

    Hello all,

I again visited DesignSoft office here in Budapest, Hungary to
harass them about Pamtop Circuit - will call it PACI hereunder.

Appears like they do some action now. They found about 30 sets
of handbook/user's manual already printed, so that shouldn't be
of any problem to produce the new software packages.

I have to call them back tomorrow 1600 GMT, by which time they
promised to retrieve the actual software from tape archives.
Price is fixed at 80 (eighty) USD. There won't be support.

Bad news is, that he said there wasn't any demo/trial version.
Thus, how the hell will you know, if it worth the money?
The users's manual sections I sent to HPLX-L last year seems
promising, and the company has similar successful products
for Windows; but $80 is just a lot of money.

Seems like they are pursuing this as a one-time cash income,
rather then a long-term HPLX relationship. I was careless and
"explicitly hinted" that right now 12 copies could be sold.
So they could get app. $1000 this way. IMO, if someone offered
them say $5000, they may sell the rights to PACI; probably
even the source code for a few extra bucks. They dropped DOS.
(They are not fond of the distributor/reseller idea, as their
       USA link is not doing its best for some reason.)

This opinion of mine is based on what the founder/owner
SW architecturist told me:

"Of all the software projects I did during the back 15 years,
 only PACI failed to make market success. We are currently
 investigating the market opportunity of a similar application
 either for WinCE handhelds or the Win95/98/NT Libretto-likes.
 We are geared towards 486/Pentium ultraportables, but the
 chance of WinCE being used in real-time systems and indust-
 rial applications keeps the debate open. My opinion is, that
 PACI failed, because the HP DOS palmtop was way overpriced.
 When I first saw the 100LX in 1995, I thought that within
 three years every schoolboy will have one in his bag. But
 it was expensive. And today you can't defeat M$Win!"

(BTW, the recent success products of this company for WIN are:
 Edison and Tina, which sell OK, but these are for desktops
 and include some hardware, eg. prototyping boards, too.)

He mentioned that once they had talks with H-P to include
PACI with factory new HPLXes. He said the same time H-P
thought about buying a browser, too. IMO, that must refer
to DASoft's WWW/LX. But they couldn't reach an agreement,
because H-P was indecisive, he claimed. When was that, Avi?

vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

*He said that Palmtop Circuit was reviewed sometime in the
*Palmtop Paper (mentioned a "Palmtop Newspaper", but that
*must be Palmtop Paper, IMO). Could someone look it up, please!
*That may give you a clue, if it worth the trouble or not.



Non-standard disclaimer: I have no connection with DesignSoft,
other than being a hungarian myself, I feel it's a patriotic
act to help spreading locally made software among HPLX users.

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I too would drop serious money for a backlight.  Make it work without
external attachments, and I don't care if a 30 second use from time-to-time
effects the total life of a charge on batteries.  Most of the time I can get
to additional power easier than I can see in the dark.  If the price of a
backlight upgrade went as high as $200 I would still be interested.

Phil

BTW, M$ spell check wants to change the spelling of Psion5 to "Poison"...
wonder what that's all about.  :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Randle SMTP:chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
>
<snip>

> 7) Backlight. And if anybody technical and commercial is reading this, I
> for one would pay proper money (not $1 - $50) to have a proper backlight
> on the HP200. I used it in murky pubs, and to read in bed at night
> without disturbing my wife.
>

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:04:13 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:49:47 -0400 (EDT)

51m31s ago ...
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> also pkzip/unzip does not work with X-Finder per. The PTP November /
> December 1998 issue, page 10.

Hi Quinton, Jeff, and group -

It would seem that the PTP article was wrong about that...  I've been
using PKZIP for compression, and it works fine.  Just changed the line
for "extract from zip" from unzip to PKUNZIP, and that also worked.
Maybe the article was based on an early version of XF.

> BTW: Has anybody located TaskBar thats mentioned in the finder.env.
> I'm wondering if its anything like like TaskList?

Looked thru the vector site, and some other Japanese sites, and came up
empty...  Maybe it's only on Nifty-Serve   8-(   i'd sure be interested
to see what it is.

As I recall, UNZIP is on SUPER

-Peniel
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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:39:50 +0200
Reply-To:     davidb@netmedia.net.il
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: Advice sought on HP200 e-mail connections

Chris Randle writes:
> 1) I could send & receive e-mail from the Psion using a direct cable

> 2) I could connect to my PC (again, direct cable), but no connection to

I connect to my ISP using Win95, download all my email, copy it over to
my palmtop, write replies, and then send them off by connnecting to my
desktop when I get home. This is simpler than it sounds as most of the
work is done by batch files and shortcuts on my Win95 desktop.

I use Rod Whitby's PNR to read email on the palmtop which I have transferred
to it using Transfile Win200.

To send replies (like this one) I use LXTOOLS Dos port to copy the files
from the palmtop, and LXTCP on the desktop to send them off.

The "manual" part of the operation is exporting the mail from my desktop
mail client (Pronto Mail) and using Transfile to drag the files onto the
palmtop. I would like to "automate this further, but I would need to
improve Lxtools for DOS as it has hassles transferring large files TO
the palmtop.

What is turnpike?
Would it help me to package my email, for my palmtop?



======================
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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:12:28 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Urgent: Palmtop CIRCUIT update, long post.
In-Reply-To:  <2A512526A34@sc.bme.hu> from "Tamas Feher" at Apr 14,
              99 01:41:59 pm
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> I have to call them back tomorrow 1600 GMT, by which time they
> promised to retrieve the actual software from tape archives.
> Price is fixed at 80 (eighty) USD. There won't be support.

Count me in for one copy.  Where do I send the $$$$????

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:14:42 -0400
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              Tamas Feher <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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From:         Tamas Feher <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
Subject:      HPLX emulator for the eternity.

    Hello all,

I saw a thread here about "HP 200LX emulator for the WinCE".
OK, CE is not the best, a man can imagine; but some day the
only was to use a HPLX will be via emulation.

I mean, HP quits manufacturing it in after 2000 and plastic
degrades with time, so it'll be hard to pocket an LX in 2020.

  So an LX-emulator, that lasts forever is a necessity.
             Why not write one in Java?

Java will work OK on/in future computers and is platform
independent, if properly written. Thus that will run on
Win2068 and BeOS v.9.2.6, just like on  St.Linus ver 16.3.5.
No matter if quantum or optical or DNA technology CPU ticks
under the hood, you can have familiar DOS on your screen.

I don't say, rewrite 1-2-3 or Quicken in Java yourself, just
the realization of on-screen LCD and keyboard display, emu-
lating SysMan and Int5f, etc. Say, the 1000CX version.

I heard, there is a work to rewrite Bochs (the x86 CPU emulator
for Unix and WinNT, currently in C++) into Java code. Which
seems hard to justify, as it'll be terribly slow, but that's
another matter. It should be a good base for the work.

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              Leo Shepherd <Leo.Shepherd@FAA.GOV>
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     Tlai Enterprises has some discontinued Sony Magic Link (type I) one mb
     SRAM memory cards for about $25 ea.  I just ordered/received two.
     While the HP 200lx system noted that the battery was good when
     installed, I keep getting an I/O error.  I have a 512k ram card that
     works like a champ.

     Page 1-7 of the manual shows that such cards, up to 20 meg, should
     work.

     Any thoughts?

     Leo

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On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:25:03 -0500, Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:


> > also pkzip/unzip does not work with X-Finder per. The PTP November /
> > December 1998 issue, page 10.
>
> Hmmm.... the docs that come with it say to replace unzip with pkunzip. =
Where
> can I find unzip, is it on S.U.P.E.R.? Is there a corresponding ZIP =
program
> that I should also obtain?

I read the same thing, and replaced unzip/zip with pkunzip/pkzip. But
no go. (:-(

> Once again, hmmmm.... I hope to play around with this thing some more
> tonight, it's quite intriguing :) I just need to round up all these
> necessary little files.

If you are anybody finds TaskBar please let me know. (:->


Regards,

Qman...

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On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:04:13 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> wrote:

> It would seem that the PTP article was wrong about that...  I've been
> using PKZIP for compression, and it works fine.  Just changed the line
> for "extract from zip" from unzip to PKUNZIP, and that also worked.
> Maybe the article was based on an early version of XF.

On the line of the .env file for zip extractions, I replaced unzip with
pkunzip. Should I have any type of arguments behind it?

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:13:39 -0700
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Direct Connect? You got me stomped. The "Ports" control panel doesn't seem
to have anything like that...
As for Admin right, I'm in the list of Admins for that machine.

Philippe :)
----- Original Message -----
From: David M Peterson <dmp24@JUNO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: HP Connectivity program on Windows NT 4.0


> Howdy,
>
> On the NT side, you have to have administrator rights first of all. Go to
> start-settings-control panel. Configure the serial ports as direct
> connect and the baud rate of your choice and save. Do not try to connect
> until you have rebooted. If you are below service pack 3, you might have
> to upgrade. I ahve to go through this again at work and most likely will
> do it within the next week. Reply if you want me to take notes.
>
> David Peterson
>
> On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:51:29 -0700 Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
> writes:
> >Filer doesn't seem to work (as opposed to all the others). Anyone
> >knows
> >what's wrong. When I try to start it, the screen blinks but nothing
> >happens.
> >I yeah, and I know this was intended for DOS, although everything
> >seems to
> >be working pretty well...
> >
> >Or is there an alternative for NT?
> >
> >Philippe :)
> >
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Palmtop CIRCUIT? PACI? What are those?

Thanks,

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Tamas Feher <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 10:41 AM
Subject: Urgent: Palmtop CIRCUIT update, long post.


>     Hello all,
>
> I again visited DesignSoft office here in Budapest, Hungary to
> harass them about Pamtop Circuit - will call it PACI hereunder.
>
> Appears like they do some action now. They found about 30 sets
> of handbook/user's manual already printed, so that shouldn't be
> of any problem to produce the new software packages.
>
> I have to call them back tomorrow 1600 GMT, by which time they
> promised to retrieve the actual software from tape archives.
> Price is fixed at 80 (eighty) USD. There won't be support.
>
> Bad news is, that he said there wasn't any demo/trial version.
> Thus, how the hell will you know, if it worth the money?
> The users's manual sections I sent to HPLX-L last year seems
> promising, and the company has similar successful products
> for Windows; but $80 is just a lot of money.
>
> Seems like they are pursuing this as a one-time cash income,
> rather then a long-term HPLX relationship. I was careless and
> "explicitly hinted" that right now 12 copies could be sold.
> So they could get app. $1000 this way. IMO, if someone offered
> them say $5000, they may sell the rights to PACI; probably
> even the source code for a few extra bucks. They dropped DOS.
> (They are not fond of the distributor/reseller idea, as their
>        USA link is not doing its best for some reason.)
>
> This opinion of mine is based on what the founder/owner
> SW architecturist told me:
>
> "Of all the software projects I did during the back 15 years,
>  only PACI failed to make market success. We are currently
>  investigating the market opportunity of a similar application
>  either for WinCE handhelds or the Win95/98/NT Libretto-likes.
>  We are geared towards 486/Pentium ultraportables, but the
>  chance of WinCE being used in real-time systems and indust-
>  rial applications keeps the debate open. My opinion is, that
>  PACI failed, because the HP DOS palmtop was way overpriced.
>  When I first saw the 100LX in 1995, I thought that within
>  three years every schoolboy will have one in his bag. But
>  it was expensive. And today you can't defeat M$Win!"
>
> (BTW, the recent success products of this company for WIN are:
>  Edison and Tina, which sell OK, but these are for desktops
>  and include some hardware, eg. prototyping boards, too.)
>
> He mentioned that once they had talks with H-P to include
> PACI with factory new HPLXes. He said the same time H-P
> thought about buying a browser, too. IMO, that must refer
> to DASoft's WWW/LX. But they couldn't reach an agreement,
> because H-P was indecisive, he claimed. When was that, Avi?
>
> vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
>
> *He said that Palmtop Circuit was reviewed sometime in the
> *Palmtop Paper (mentioned a "Palmtop Newspaper", but that
> *must be Palmtop Paper, IMO). Could someone look it up, please!
> *That may give you a clue, if it worth the trouble or not.
>
> 
>
> Non-standard disclaimer: I have no connection with DesignSoft,
> other than being a hungarian myself, I feel it's a patriotic
> act to help spreading locally made software among HPLX users.
>
>             Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.
>
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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:24:12 -0500
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject:      Yet another X-Finder Query

After the initial 'splash' screen upon entering X-Finder, my Appointments
and Communications icons don't display. The Phone Book icon does display.
Are those of you that are playing with X-Finder having your your Appt and
Comm icons displayed?

73 Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:37:18 +0200
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From:         Gerhard Gonter <gonter@ZECHINE.WU-WIEN.AC.AT>
Subject:      Re: Access (or 123)  to GDB? <via GDBLOAD or ?>
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Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:
> ...
> I could try to write a program in BASIC that does some sort of line-length
> count in each field of the CSV and could eventually get fancy and test for
> field type, but would any output I could generate interface with anything
> out there that would build a .GDB?  Or, how hard is it to write a "program"
> that would do all that and make the blank .GDB that GDBLOAD could then fill?

It is certainly possible to create blank .gdb files from scratch by
analyzing the data to import.  If this is done, you could immediately
load the database too because this is ultimately the easier part.

The tricky part is guess the database definition, that includes
a definition of each field with
+ name (short cut key?)
+ type
+ size
+ x/y position on the screen
+ postitioning on the right card page
+ conversion from foreign field types

At a global level you need to consider
+ what to do if you have too many fields
+ arrangement of view points
+ sorting

It's much easier for GDBLOAD and other programs to let someone "design"
the
database and to load it's conents only.  Of course, as soon as the
guessed
design is modified by the user, the modified database should be used as
the template for newly imported data.

+gg

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:57:02 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> Does anyone still use these with their 200LX? Has the form factor
> gotten any smaller or do they still stick out of the side aways? Whats
> the power drain like?

There aren't really any radio modems that work with the 200LX anymore.  I
use the Megahertz (oh, excuse me, 3Com) Allpoints card, which sticks out
and has a 9V battery in the bulge.  The power drain is about 40ma.  I use
it in my <gag>  <retch>  320LX right now, at least until somebody
threatens GoAmerica (www.goamerica.net) enough that they buckle and
support the 200LX again.

I'd rather have a Ricochet, but it's not available in Las Vegas...

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From:         Gerhard Gonter <gonter@ZECHINE.WU-WIEN.AC.AT>
Subject:      Re: Access (or 123)  to GDB? via GDBLOAD or ?
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Bennett Todd wrote:
> ...
> The third tool is a csv2gdb converter in perl. It's supposed to build the
> indices, so you don't get the "no records found" and need to cycle through the
> different subsets in gdb, like you do with gdbload --- but it didn't work when
> I flung a big table at it, so I never followed up to see if it worked better
> than gdbload for smaller tables. Like gdbload this csv2gdb perl script

I'm not sure if you're refering to my perl module or not, anyway, it
still
does not have this overrun-check which is certainly necessary to load
large amounts of data but it certainly works quite relyable (at least
for me ;) on smaller datasets.

> than gdbload for smaller tables. Like gdbload this csv2gdb perl script
> requires that the gdb file already exist; it can't build the gdb schema and
> views from scratch.

That's still the case with my module.  No plans to add this feature
soon...

+gg

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:15:26 +0200
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Hi all,

i am new to this list and i have a question.

I own an old HP95LX for several years now and am very happy with it.

Today i am often using the netscape calendar server for managing my
time, so i have to put eache meeting twice in: one in the PC and one in
the hp95lx (for beeing mobile).

I ve discovered, that the netscape calendar server is able to export and
import .ADB-files for HP100LX and 200LX, so i am wondering, if there
maybe exists a converter-tool or a tricky method to make a conversion
between the old HP95LX .abk-files and the new .ABD-files.

I would appreciate any hint.

regards,
olivers

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:35:26 -0400
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              Tamas Feher <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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From:         Tamas Feher <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
Subject:      Re: What is Palmtop Circuit or PACI?

            Hello all,

I apologize for not providing the background info, when talking
about Palmtop Circuit. Here is some info for those not following
this old thread previously. What is this software:

-Short: It's an electric circuit simulator program with GUI,
        which runs on HP palmtops or any desktop PC. It is
        a commercial program made by DesignSoft of Hungary.

-Long: Read the first pages of the users' manual archived:
 <www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/hypermail/october.mail/0233.html>

PACI is the acronym for Palmtop Circuit, because I got tired
typing this long two-word name many times.

            Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

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On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:04:13 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> =
wrote:

> Hi Quinton, Jeff, and group -
>
> It would seem that the PTP article was wrong about that...  I've been
> using PKZIP for compression, and it works fine.  Just changed the line
> for "extract from zip" from unzip to PKUNZIP, and that also worked.
> Maybe the article was based on an early version of XF.

I did that and it still didn't work. What directory is your pkunzip
file in?

Maybe I'm not using the right command/key combo to zip a file.
So what is the right command/key combo to zip a file

> > BTW: Has anybody located TaskBar thats mentioned in the finder.env.
> > I'm wondering if its anything like like TaskList?
>
> Looked thru the vector site, and some other Japanese sites, and came up
> empty...  Maybe it's only on Nifty-Serve   8-(   i'd sure be interested
> to see what it is.

I did the same thing. (:-)


Regards,

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:42:10 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

>  Anyone know if anyplace/anyone sells shorter connection cables or custom
> made?? i'll even take a place where i can pick up the connection head for
> the DOS-LX palmtop

look at
www.palmtop.net/serial-howto.html
if you want to make your own plug!

GTX
daniel

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> After the initial 'splash' screen upon entering X-Finder, my Appointments
> and Communications icons don't display. The Phone Book icon does display.
> Are those of you that are playing with X-Finder having your your Appt and
> Comm icons displayed?
>

Yes. You have to have the icon correctly named (e.g. appt.icn for
Appointments) in the icon.lzh file in c:\_dat or in the icon directory
defined in your finder.env file. For the Comm program do de same
thing: xxxxx.icn, where xxxx is the name of your .xfe file.

Regards

Antonio


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Porto - Portugal
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On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:45:53 +0100, Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:

> Yes. You have to have the icon correctly named (e.g. appt.icn for
> Appointments) in the icon.lzh file in c:\_dat or in the icon directory
> defined in your finder.env file. For the Comm program do de same
> thing: xxxxx.icn, where xxxx is the name of your .xfe file.

Do you have to define the appt icon and comm icon.... doesn't is just use
the built-in icons like it does for the phone book?

73 es tnx Jeff

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On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:36:47 -0700, Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> I did that and it still didn't work. What directory is your pkunzip
> file in?

Mine is in c:\bin and I have that listed in the .env file. Maybe I should
put it in the path instead of trying to just use the .env file to point to
it?

73 Jeff

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Subject:      Re: Areacode LXMap Repost
Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>

I'd like to thank Mr. Striegel for the fine job.  Would it be possible to
share with me, and the HPLX group, how you converted the picture and how you
made it so much better?  I'd like to know, as I am sure most of us with a
palmtop, how to better convert color pictures to black and white.

Again, Thanks!

paul_stratton@email.msn.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 12:05 PM
Subject: Areacode LXMap Repost


If you retrieved Paul Stratton's areacode.zip file from palmtop.net,
please grab it again.  Alan Striegel reworked the PCX file to make the
city names more visible and it looks much better.

ftp://ftp.palmtop.net/pub/maps/areacode.zip

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Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:04:15 -0400 (EDT)

01h39m14s ago ...
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> After the initial 'splash' screen upon entering X-Finder, my Appointment=
s
> and Communications icons don't display. The Phone Book icon does =
display.
> Are those of you that are playing with X-Finder having your your Appt =
and
> Comm icons displayed?

Hi Jeff-

Antonio's answer is basically right.  Two questions:  Are you setting
up the icon screen using a series of .xfe .xfd etc files, or did you
change to using the .xpt list format.  If you're launching with a .xfe
file, you need to give it the same name as the icon.  In a .xpt list,
the entry next in the line following the command should be the same as
the icon.  When you add your own new icons, you may need to hit F1
(init).

HTH

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Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM>

I'd like to thank you Mr. Striegel for the fine job.  Would it be possible
to
share with me, and the HPLX group, how you converted the picture and how you
made it so much better?  I'd like to know, as I am sure most of us with a
palmtop, how to better convert color pictures to black and white.

Again, Thanks!

paul_stratton@email.msn.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Striegel, Alan <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: LXMap at its best


     The challenge has been answered.  There is now a cleaner version of the
map (temporarily located at http://web.raex.com/~striegel/HPLX/ac.pcx).  All
of the city names should be more readable.  Please check it over and give me
any feedback.

     Mitch, feel free to relocate a copy of this map to the LXMAP page.

Alan

>From:  Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) SMTP:mitch@PALMTOP.NET
>Sent:  Monday, April 12, 1999 11:23 AM
>...
>Paul has said that he would offer the original GIF up to anyone who thinks
they
>can get the image clean enough to see city names rather than just state
names.

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Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:16:41 -0400 (EDT)

39m54s ago ...
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> > It would seem that the PTP article was wrong about that...  I've been
> > using PKZIP for compression, and it works fine.  Just changed the =
line
> > for "extract from zip" from unzip to PKUNZIP, and that also worked.
> > Maybe the article was based on an early version of XF.
>
> I did that and it still didn't work. What directory is your pkunzip
> file in?

It's in a:\util  (and in the path)

> Maybe I'm not using the right command/key combo to zip a file.
> So what is the right command/key combo to zip a file

(This may also answer Jeff's question, too.)

There are probably a lot of ways to do it.  What I do is:

Mark all the items to go in the .zip
To add to an existing .zip - go there and hit copy.  OR
For a new .zip - after marking, hit copy, and type the path and filename
of the new .zip in the dialog box.

Also in the "Execution by matched extension, I tried changing unzip to
pkunzip - but there you need to change the -l parameter to -z   I only
tried changing the first .zip line here, though.  This works, too

No extra parameters in the "extract from zip" line.

HTH

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14m25s ago ...
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Do you have to define the appt icon and comm icon.... doesn't is just =
use
> the built-in icons like it does for the phone book?

It uses the icons in icon.lzh   I'm sure those two are in the file you
have, so they they should show up if the command and icon have the same
name.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:42:54 +0100
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In article <199903140839.PNR05021@netmedia.net.il>, David Becher
<davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL> writes
>I connect to my ISP using Win95, download all my email, copy it over to
>my palmtop, write replies, and then send them off by connnecting to my
>desktop when I get home. This is simpler than it sounds as most of the
>work is done by batch files and shortcuts on my Win95 desktop.

This is pretty much how I'd like to work too (and did with the Psion).
All my mail in one place at the office, for reference, and take with me
the few I'd like to reply to. Then send them from home using BCC to get
a reference copy back to my office. BUT using the PC's modem or internet
connection, not a PCMCIA jobbie.

>What is turnpike?
>Would it help me to package my email, for my palmtop?

Turnpike is an e-mail & news reader client which comes bundled if you
subscribe to a UK ISP called Demon Internet. It seems to work OK. It
was, I believe, written by the chap who wrote the LocoScript word
processor for the Amstrad PCW. It has the same "from a parallel universe
where nothing quite works the same" feel about it, but none the worse
for that.

Most importantly, it can also act as a POP3 server, which, with the
Psion, meant I could "copy" my e-mail to the palmtop simply by
collecting it from my desktop PC after it was downloaded from my ISP.

I don't know if it would help you though, cos you'll probably get stuck
as I did with the connection using the HP. I'm determined to get this
set up working one way or another. Every attempt using LX s/w without a
modem results in "no response from DNS server" and similar things. I'll
persevere and let you know if I get anywhere.

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On 14 Apr 99, at 16:17, Jeff Johns wrote:

>
> Do you have to define the appt icon and comm icon.... doesn't is just use
> the built-in icons like it does for the phone book?
>

I experienced the same problems as you did at first. By
experimenting I discovered that *all* the icons you want have to
display with X-Finder have to be stored in the icon.lhz or iconfld.lhz
or in the defined icons directory. Further the names of the *.icn files
have to follow the rules defined in the documentation: the name of
the icon file has to be xxx.icn, where xxx is the extension of the
file (e.g. if you want all the xfe to have the same icon you name the
icon file xfe.icn) or xxxxx.icn, where xxxxx is the name of the file
(e.g. appt.icn for appt.xfe or appt.adb).

X-Finder doesn't display the built in icons unless you extract them
from apmgr.dat and store them with the apropriate name in the
*.lhz or icons directory.

Regards

Antonio
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On 14 Apr 99, at 17:28, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Antonio's answer is basically right.  Two questions:  Are you setting up
> the icon screen using a series of .xfe .xfd etc files, or did you change
> to using the .xpt list format.  If you're launching with a .xfe file, you
> need to give it the same name as the icon.  In a .xpt list, the entry next
> in the line following the command should be the same as the icon.  When
> you add your own new icons, you may need to hit F1 (init).
>

Thanks Peniel. I forgott the *.xpt option.

Antonio
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On 14 Apr 99, at 16:17, Jeff Johns wrote:


>
> Do you have to define the appt icon and comm icon.... doesn't is just use
> the built-in icons like it does for the phone book?
>

Sorry, I forgott. If you look into the icon.lhz file you'll find the phone
icon already there.

Antonio
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Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: HPLX emulator for the eternity.

>     Hello all,
>
> I saw a thread here about "HP 200LX emulator for the WinCE".
> OK, CE is not the best, a man can imagine; but some day the
> only was to use a HPLX will be via emulation.
>
> I mean, HP quits manufacturing it in after 2000 and plastic
> degrades with time, so it'll be hard to pocket an LX in 2020.
>
>   So an LX-emulator, that lasts forever is a necessity.
>              Why not write one in Java?
>
> Java will work OK on/in future computers and is platform
> independent, if properly written. Thus that will run on
> Win2068 and BeOS v.9.2.6, just like on  St.Linus ver 16.3.5.
> No matter if quantum or optical or DNA technology CPU ticks
> under the hood, you can have familiar DOS on your screen.
>
> I don't say, rewrite 1-2-3 or Quicken in Java yourself, just
> the realization of on-screen LCD and keyboard display, emu-
> lating SysMan and Int5f, etc. Say, the 1000CX version.
>
> I heard, there is a work to rewrite Bochs (the x86 CPU emulator
> for Unix and WinNT, currently in C++) into Java code. Which
> seems hard to justify, as it'll be terribly slow, but that's
> another matter. It should be a good base for the work.
>
>         Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

You are making the rather large assumption that java will be around
in 20 years. Also, in 20 years don't you think that something better
might just have come along?

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Subject:      Sorry... another X-Finder Question

Sorry for another X-Finder question, but I'm slowly getting it going, thanks
to help from the list members.

Peniel or anyone else using list as a file viewer, can you please tell me
exactly what the line in the finder.env file looks like? I _think_ I have it
installed properly but X-Finder doesn't seem to be passing the file name
along to list so that it can view it.

73 es tnx Jeff W4JEF

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
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Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:52:31 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:28:50 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> =
wrote:

>(This may also answer Jeff's question, too.)
>
> There are probably a lot of ways to do it.  What I do is:
>
> Mark all the items to go in the .zip
> To add to an existing .zip - go there and hit copy.  OR
> For a new .zip - after marking, hit copy, and type the path and filename
> of the new .zip in the dialog box.
>
> Also in the "Execution by matched extension, I tried changing unzip to
> pkunzip - but there you need to change the -l parameter to -z   I only
> tried changing the first .zip line here, though.  This works, too

Thank You...Thank You -Peniel,

That -z did the trick, Stereo Shell is now shaking in its boots and
begging not to deleted. (:-)

BTW: I took the easy way out with the PIM's and installed KeyM, plus
KeyM is installed on my TaskBar under the F10 DOS key. (:-)

Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
hp 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:24:22 EDT
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From:         Cathy Schilm <CSchlim@AOL.COM>
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First time I have seen HP advertise in a LONG while!!


<A
HREF="http://www.shopping.hp.com/cgi-bin/shopping/hpvillage?BV_Operation=Dyn_A
uthenticationReceive&form%25bvcgi_path=www.shopping.hp.com/cgi-bin/shopping/hp
village&form%25login_type=guest&form%25authentication_mechanism=COOKIE&form%25
destination=/hpvillage/templates/banner_ad/frameset.html.tmpl&form%25destinati
on_type=template&form%25ref_url=shopping_village&form%25failure_destination=/h
pvillage/templates/banner_ad/frameset.html.tmpl&form%25failure_destination_typ
e=template&form%25adv=true&form%25product_code=F1061A-ABA">HP Shopping Village
</A>

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:49:05 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 a123456@bitstream.net wrote:

> What do they need to support? Is there a certain file format or
> something or is there no mail interface?

Wireless radio services have special software that allows you to access
them.  They all only support WinCE and PalmPilot now; no more System
Manager or DOS programs.

Ricochet needs transceivers mounted every quarter-mile on streetlights, so
expanding to a city is a big deal for Metricom...

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:59:09 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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I just downloaded a copy of flodraw from Simtel - I see that we have an
older copy (v2.2 vs. v2.25) on SUPER.  Anyone use this on their palmtop?

-Chris

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:01:34 -0400
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Urgent: Palmtop CIRCUIT update, long post.
Comments: To: Tamas Feher <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>

> I again visited DesignSoft office here in Budapest, Hungary to
> harass them about Pamtop Circuit - will call it PACI hereunder.
>
> Appears like they do some action now. They found about 30 sets
> of handbook/user's manual already printed, so that shouldn't be
> of any problem to produce the new software packages.
>
> I have to call them back tomorrow 1600 GMT, by which time they
> promised to retrieve the actual software from tape archives.
> Price is fixed at 80 (eighty) USD. There won't be support.
>

Count me in. Where do we send the check?

John John Musielewicz

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:01:38 -0400
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: HP DBF format databases
Comments: To: Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>

> Phone/Appt/Notetaker/Database frontends for DBF format files.  We would need
>

Sorry for the dumb question but what's a DBF format file? John Musielewicz

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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:53:00 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM>
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Sorry if this comes as a disappointment, but there was no magic here.  I
took the brute force approach and erased every city name then re-created
them pixel-by-pixel using Corel PhotoPaint.  Overall time required: ~2.5
hours.  In fact, I had to look up several of them on other maps to be sure.

I tried converting and enhancing the original color image with several
graphics utilities and came to the conclusion that nothing could pull the
city names out of the mud.  Then it was a matter of deciding how to
re-create the city names with the least amount of work.  While I considered
creating a custom tiny font and using that to type in the names, the time
involved in making the font would have exceeded what I put into the
pixel-at-a-time hand re-work I did.

Alan

>From:  Paul_Stratton SMTP:Paul_Stratton@EMAIL.MSN.COM
>Sent:  Wednesday, April 14, 1999 5:28 PM

>I'd like to thank you Mr. Striegel for the fine job.  Would it be possible
to
>share with me, and the HPLX group, how you converted the picture and how
you
>made it so much better?  I'd like to know, as I am sure most of us with a
>palmtop, how to better convert color pictures to black and white.

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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:43:46 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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From:         Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: HP DBF format databases
Comments: To: John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <199904150156.UAA16371@bitstream.net>; from John Musielewicz on
              Wed, Apr 14, 1999 at 10:01:38PM -0400
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1999-04-15-02:01:38 John Musielewicz:
> What's a DBF format file?

Normally found with a .dbf file extension, it's the file format introduced by
dBase II lo these many years ago; a simple fixed-record-length table format
with fixed-width columns, after a header; there are a couple of Perl modules
for manipulating it (Xbase and DBD::XBase), and the XBase(3) man page (from
the DBD::XBase release) includes a reference to file format documentation at
<URL:http://www.e-bachmann.dk/docs/xbase.htm>.

-Bennett

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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:39:22 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Subject:      Re: HP DBF format databases
In-Reply-To:  <00d101be868e$2ece42a0$0400a8c0@times2tech.com>; from Mack
              Baggette on Wed, Apr 14, 1999 at 10:48:02AM -0500
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1999-04-14-15:48:02 Mack Baggette:
> I was thinking that what the palmtop really needs is EXM
> Phone/Appt/Notetaker/Database frontends for DBF format files.

I've been harboring a vaguely similar thought, with a couple of differences.

EXM would certainly be nice, but I'm much more keenly interested in portable
open source, so I coud run the same PIMs on the same data files on my Unix
workstation, on my LX as-is, or on my LX under Minix.

And I'd be happier with a different file format. I've been thinking in terms
of starting with CSV; adding support for external indices, where the CSV file
can only be appended-to without having to rebuild the indices (i.e. no
in-place updates); an external index would simply be an n+1-column file, where
the first n columns are the key the index is providing, and the final column
would be the byte offset in the CSV file of the record. So a single "database"
would be multiple files, indices could be binary-searched, and all the on-disk
files would be amenable to a really fast, hugely effective huffman
compression.

-Bennett

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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:22:38 -0400
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:28:47 EST
> From:    "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
> Subject: Re: HPLX emulator for the eternity.
>
> > I saw a thread here about "HP 200LX emulator for the WinCE".
> > OK, CE is not the best, a man can imagine; but some day the
> > only was to use a HPLX will be via emulation.
> >
> > I mean, HP quits manufacturing it in after 2000 and plastic
> > degrades with time, so it'll be hard to pocket an LX in 2020.
> >
> >   So an LX-emulator, that lasts forever is a necessity.
> >              Why not write one in Java?

< snip >

> > I heard, there is a work to rewrite Bochs (the x86 CPU
emulator
> > for Unix and WinNT, currently in C++) into Java code. Which
> > seems hard to justify, as it'll be terribly slow, but that's
> > another matter. It should be a good base for the work.
> >
> >         Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.
>
> You are making the rather large assumption that java will be
around
> in 20 years. Also, in 20 years don't you think that something
better
> might just have come along?
>
> Pete
>
Also that even if it's still around it'll look anything like the
current version. Tried recompiling FORTRAN IV programs under
current compilers recently? Or even Fortran 77 (from the same
vendor, of course). Or check out the changes to ANSI C over time.

You *can* write portable code in *many* languages, it's still
write once, debug anywhere regardless of the language, including
Java.

The only good x86 emulator's another x86 chip. Failing that, a
good systems development language (and the corporate world is
learning that Java isn't one -
http://www.byte.com/features/1999/04/0405java.html).

Jon
Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)

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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:02:37 +0200
Reply-To:     Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de
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I'm trying to use the PAL library to present a list of strings to the
user and ask him to select one of them. There is a function in PAL
called PickList, but it allows the user to make multiple choices.

Does anybody know if there is a similar function for picking a single
choice from a list?

Regards,
Paulo Custodio

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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:55:26 +0300
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              Juha Husgafvel <hysky@TUUG.ORG>
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Subject:      ANN: Perl 4.0.36 Port with PAL extensions
Content-Type: text

Hello!

I have made available a port of Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions
at:
http://www.tuug.org/~hysky

If there are any problems please report them to me, not
Larry Wall!

Happy hacking,
--
/hysky   (hysky@tuug.org)   j.h.husgafvel
Have you tried McSquared, the pure-energy fast food?
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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:31:59 0
Reply-To:     abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt
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From:         Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT>
Subject:      Communications in X-Finder
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Has anyone ever tried to launch WWW/LX or AcCis from X-Finder?
If so can you share your configuration?

TIA

Antonio
---------------------------------------------------------
Antonio Queiroz e Menezes M.Sc. (Econo)
Porto - Portugal
abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt
AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/AntonioMenezes

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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:37:13 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Hi all,

Found several complete Excel 2.10 diskette packages in a dumpster, no docs
though. Think about it, 33 and still diving in dumpsters! About time to get
a life...

Anyway, thought I would try it on the palmtop, now I have to decide between
Minix and everything else on my 32 MB CF card... :-(

I also found a complete Works 2.0, but it is in Norwegian...

An old Excel add-in called Braincell, don't know if it works with Excel 2.1,
it is a neural net thing.

And some other old junk... :-)


br

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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:50:32 +0930
Reply-To:     rwhitby@hplx.net
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Advice sought on HP200 e-mail connections
Comments: To: Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>

Chris Randle writes:
> I'm determined to get this
> set up working one way or another. Every attempt using LX s/w without a
> modem results in "no response from DNS server" and similar things. I'll
> persevere and let you know if I get anywhere.

If you really are determined to get this to work, and you're not scared
by TCP/IP utilities that don't have a GUI, then send me an email off
the list with a summary of your win95 setup, and exactly what you want
to achieve, and I'll see if LXTCP/PNR in conjunction with a proxy
server on Win95 can be used to do what you want.

You can certainly do this with Linux by using PPP from the palmtop to
the Linux box via a serial link.  I don't know if there is a PPP server
available for Win95.

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-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:53:53 -0400
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              Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
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From:         Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
Subject:      Simple HTML editor
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 Is there a simple TEXT html editor for DOS (doesnt need color or gfx)
just something to cut and paste or edit HTML stuff but has to do so under
HTML format of course (otherwise id use any text editor)

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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 06:39:57 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Chris Randle wrote:
2) Slightly more flexible (for me) e-mail abilities

What exactly do you miss on the HP that you had on the Psion? (Fishing
for ideas to improve POST/LX).

Andreas

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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:08:34 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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Subject:      Re: HP DBF format databases
Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net
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>Sorry for the dumb question but what's a DBF format file? John
Musielewicz


At a guess 8-)         Data  Base  File

Regards......Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:13:50 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Okay gang, I'm now attempting to learn how to create an archive (.zip) file
using Finder. Following the supplied instructions, it says to mark the
file(s) that you wish to archive with the space bar then go to the directy
you wish to place the archive, press F5, enter the filename of the archive,
the press F2 then OK to create the archive.

In real life I can't seem to get these instructions to work. When I mark the
files I want archived then go to the directory I want to place the archive
and press F5 I get a window that says "Go to: c:\somedirectoryname". Any
ideas or suggestions from the Finder experts?

73 Jeff

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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:35:35 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@web2000.net> wrote:

> It uses the icons in icon.lzh   I'm sure those two are in the file you
> have, so they they should show up if the command and icon have the same
> name.

This may be a silly question, but what are the commands for the appointment
and communication applications?

73 Jeff

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On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:04:35 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@web2000.net> wrote:

> Here it is (list is in the path):
>
> #Viewer setting (lex, le, vvc, miel, etc)
> %v    ,200u     ,list

I am pleased to report that I now have LIST working properly along with
UNZIP <grin>. My next mission is to see if I can get it to zip up files and
create an archive. Will PKZIP work or will I need a generic zipping program?

X-Finder is an extremely powerful utility and I think that it will replace
Stereo Shell in the near future. I never thought I would replace STS, but I
truly believe that X-Finder is more powerful. I encourage everybody to give
it a try and to please bear with me as I ask all the questions I have been
posing to the list. The learning curve for Finder is a bit steep, at least
it is for me, but I'm beginning to understand how it works.

73 Jeff

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On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:41:59 -0400, Tamas Feher <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU> wrote:

> I have to call them back tomorrow 1600 GMT, by which time they
> promised to retrieve the actual software from tape archives.
> Price is fixed at 80 (eighty) USD. There won't be support.

Tamas, we are all grateful for the work you have done in trying to acquire
PACI for us. I mentioned that I was interested in a copy, but at $80, I
don't think I can shell that amount out without some type of demo version or
at least a report from another LX user. I would love for Chris Lott, whom is
an engineer, or Mack, who is the 'LX Master' to do a review of the software.
I would be a casual user of it, mainly designing and playing with various
radio circuits.

73 Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:15:11 -0400
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>Then I would suggest Keystuff?  It's also on the S.U.P.E.R. site.
Keystuff
>will put keystrokes in the keyboard buffer that get "executed" after the
end
>of the next DOS command.
>
>Phil

  Thanks, Phil! Why didn't I think to look for a util like that which was
written specifically for the HP200LX?! I've used shareware/freeware DOS
utils like that before, but since I believed that the HP200LX used
proprietary scan codes, I didn't just assume that anyone had written a
keyboard stuffing utility specifically for the HP200LX. :-)

  I'll go check it out soon. :-)

  Cheers!


John Vander Stel
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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:04:31 -0500
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> > Phone/Appt/Notetaker/Database frontends for DBF format files.  We would
need
> >
>
> Sorry for the dumb question but what's a DBF format file? John Musielewicz

DBF is the dBase format which is importable by a large number of database
programs.

Cheers,
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I was installing Jkit (Japanese environment)which uses EMS and the EMS install
file was corrupt. I have fixed that problem but for some reason I can't seem
to get my password back. I go to DOS and set and confirm it but when I shut
off my palmtop and turn it back on it is not password protected. I also did  a
dir/ah on my C drive and somehow lost the hidden alarm file. I ran Norton
Utilities, Defrag and Scandisk and also reinitialized my C drive twice.
Everything else is working fine. It's an original 4 mg drive. Does anyone know
how I can get my password back?
TIA
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Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:58:09 -0400 (EDT)

02h37m56s ago ...
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> can you please tell me
> exactly what the line in the finder.env file looks like?
> X-Finder doesn't seem to be passing the file name
> along to list so that it can view it.

Here it is (list is in the path):

#Viewer setting (lex, le, vvc, miel, etc)
%v=09,200u=09,list

Also these lines (in the "execution by matching extension" section):

.txt =09,f=09,a:\list\list.com %c
.doc =09,f=09,a:\list\list.com %c

The full path is probably unnecessary here.

This works for me.  Just hit Enter on a text file, or the View F-key on
anything, and it opens the file in List.

HTH

-Peniel
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Subject:      Re: radio modems
Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>

> threatens GoAmerica (www.goamerica.net) enough that they buckle and
> support the 200LX again.
>
> I'd rather have a Ricochet, but it's not available in Las Vegas...

What do they need to support? Is there a certain file format or
something or is there no mail interface?


John Musielewicz

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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Psion5 vs. hp200lx
Comments: To: Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>

I too would. On the same lines, I read on the Web that LCD
manufacturers are advancing on a new "thin-film" lcd material thats
supposed to use about 1/10th the power of the present materials.
Coupled with a low power lcd backlight it would be an excellant
replacement screen for the present one.

John

> I too would drop serious money for a backlight.  Make it work without
> external attachments, and I don't care if a 30 second use from time-to-time
> effects the total life of a charge on batteries.  Most of the time I can get
> to additional power easier than I can see in the dark.  If the price of a
> backlight upgrade went as high as $200 I would still be interested.
>
> Phil
>
> BTW, M$ spell check wants to change the spelling of Psion5 to "Poison"...
> wonder what that's all about.  :)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Randle SMTP:chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
> >
> <snip>
>
> > 7) Backlight. And if anybody technical and commercial is reading this, I
> > for one would pay proper money (not $1 - $50) to have a proper backlight
> > on the HP200. I used it in murky pubs, and to read in bed at night
> > without disturbing my wife.
> >
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See subject. I got it from a friend and have no manual...can not find
anything on the web regarding power"draw"...

Thanks in advance

--
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Hey, I'm 40 in a month or two and I still do that.  Dumpster diving is
entertaining, profitable, and good training for when I'm too old to work! :)

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Franklin SMTP:franklin@ONLINE.NO
>
<snip>

> Think about it, 33 and still diving in dumpsters! About time to get
> a life...
>

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On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:31:59 0, Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:

> Has anyone ever tried to launch WWW/LX or AcCis from X-Finder?
> If so can you share your configuration?

You can go to the WWW.bat (I love the bat icon) and hit enter then type -d
!post and it will launch, but there's not enough memory to run my external
editor.

73 Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:35:51 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <199904150328.WAA02066x@scott.net> from "Jeff Johns" at Apr 14,
              99 10:28:19 pm
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> PACI for us. I mentioned that I was interested in a copy, but at $80, I
> don't think I can shell that amount out without some type of demo version or
> at least a report from another LX user. I would love for Chris Lott, whom is
> an engineer, or Mack, who is the 'LX Master' to do a review of the software.
> I would be a casual user of it, mainly designing and playing with various
> radio circuits.

If I ever get a copy, I'll be glad to post a review.

-Chris

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On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:35:51 -0500, "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:

> If I ever get a copy, I'll be glad to post a review.

I6m glad you took the hint <grin>.

73 Jeff

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Subject:      Re: radio modems

WYNDNET/WYNDMAIL still supports the HP200LX. I have one of their 3COM radio
modems and get great results in large cities, not so great in secluded rural
areas. It is supposed to work in ~94% of US urban areas, and supossedly has
the coverage of the RIM network, which it uses. Cost: basically dependes on
whether you buy or "lease (pay for it over time)" the modem, and your usage.
I "lease" and have light usage and pay  ~$70.00/month. I can sedn-receive
faxes, emails, and send messages to alphanumeric pages. I can also get
conversion to voice of my written messages. The people at WYND have always
been very supportive and helpful AND knowledgeable about the HP.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: radio modems


>On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 a123456@bitstream.net wrote:
>
>> What do they need to support? Is there a certain file format or
>> something or is there no mail interface?
>
>Wireless radio services have special software that allows you to access
>them.  They all only support WinCE and PalmPilot now; no more System
>Manager or DOS programs.
>
>Ricochet needs transceivers mounted every quarter-mile on streetlights, so
>expanding to a city is a big deal for Metricom...
>
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Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM>

Again, Thanks for such a great job.  I, and many others, really appreciate
the effort you took to perform the enhancement.

Every so often things just have to be done using the brute force approach.
Especially when you are changing something to perform a task for which that
something was not originally intended. I'm sure the creator of the original
picture never had any intention of the picture being used on a black and
white system.


-----Original Message-----
From: Striegel, Alan <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: LXMap at its best


Sorry if this comes as a disappointment, but there was no magic here.  I
took the brute force approach and erased every city name then re-created
them pixel-by-pixel using Corel PhotoPaint.  Overall time required: ~2.5
hours.  In fact, I had to look up several of them on other maps to be sure.

I tried converting and enhancing the original color image with several
graphics utilities and came to the conclusion that nothing could pull the
city names out of the mud.  Then it was a matter of deciding how to
re-create the city names with the least amount of work.  While I considered
creating a custom tiny font and using that to type in the names, the time
involved in making the font would have exceeded what I put into the
pixel-at-a-time hand re-work I did.

Alan

>From:  Paul_Stratton SMTP:Paul_Stratton@EMAIL.MSN.COM
>Sent:  Wednesday, April 14, 1999 5:28 PM

>I'd like to thank you Mr. Striegel for the fine job.  Would it be possible
to
>share with me, and the HPLX group, how you converted the picture and how
you
>made it so much better?  I'd like to know, as I am sure most of us with a
>palmtop, how to better convert color pictures to black and white.

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Although I have figured out how to have Finder automaticlly create a .zip
archive, I have found that I can mark the items that I want archived then
press F10 then enter the command pkzip followed by the name that I want to
name the archive and the archive will be created in the directory where I
have the cursor. Now I just have to figure out how to get Finder to do that
automatically with having to manually type the pkzip command. Does anyone
have any suggestions?

73 Jeff

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              Vincent Rikkink <vincent.rikkink@XEMICS.CH>
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Subject:      Motorola Cellect1+ and HP200LX
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I would like to use my HP palmtop 200lx with the
Motorola Cellect1+ card which I recently bought. I tried to run the
driver program celectdr.exe but it returns every time with:

Not using Card Services.
Modem initialisation failed
Please re-run with /D option to diagnose

With the /D option it does not recognize that a modem card has been
inserted.

When I however run my communication program (Goin'Postal), it recognizes

the Motorola Celect 1+ card (with standard initialisation) and then....
my phone switches off which is a .... Motorola CD920.

I tried different initializations, etc. etc. but everytime my phone
switches off.

Ofcourse, I subscribed to the data/fax facilities of my provider
(Swisscom).

Could anyone help me how I can use a GSM PCMCIA card with my HP200LX
palmtop and my cellular Motorola phone

Thanks,
Vincent Rikkink

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On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Nestor A. Ramirez wrote:

> WYNDNET/WYNDMAIL still supports the HP200LX.

No, they don't.  They still support existing users, but they don't accept
new 200LX and Wyndmail customers at all.  They're pushing their Wyndtell
communications device...

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Subject:      Re: T2T Memory is indestructible.
Comments: To: "david.eggins@USA.NET" <david.eggins@USA.NET>

re:
>I then put everything back, turned on, set up the drivers on the
>original 2mb drive, and rebooted.

>To my absolute amazement, there was all the data on my T2T 32mb drive
>staring back at me!

I've been "blessed" by that factor!  In your case you were trying to get rid
of the data; in my case the palmtop tried to get rid of it for me and failed
;-)  !  <-- My bttys. died and, when I put fresh cells in, it did a hard
reset like CTL-ALT-ON and didn't give me the option to not format the RAM!
The great thing was, after Dave at Thaddeus emailed me the proper drivers (I
was several states away from my backup), all that I thought was lost was on
the restored C: drive.  I was tickled!

I don't count on the "indestructibility" to get me out of every jam, but it
was great that once!

--tim

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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:00:11 +0100
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Paulo Custodio wrote:
> I'm trying to use the PAL library to present a list of strings to the
> user and ask him to select one of them. There is a function in PAL
> called PickList, but it allows the user to make multiple choices.
>
> Does anybody know if there is a similar function for picking a single
> choice from a list?

You might want to try the menu functions.

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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:56:31 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<X-Finder is an extremely powerful utility and I think that it will
replace
Stereo Shell in the near future. I never thought I would replace STS,
but I
truly believe that X-Finder is more powerful. I encourage everybody to
give
it a try and to please bear with me as I ask all the questions I have
been
posing to the list. The learning curve for Finder is a bit steep, at
least
it is for me, but I'm beginning to understand how it works.>>

When the dust settles and all the kinks are worked out, would anybody
like to write an updated review for THE HP PALMTOP PAPER of X-Finder?
It would be a combo of what the program can do (maybe best expressed in
how someone uses it) and as sidebar, installation/setup info.

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From:         Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
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I think the 200LX supports socket services and that
card services is a device driver function that sits on top
of socket services. Thats the way it is on my Aero.

Vincent Rikkink wrote:

> I would like to use my HP palmtop 200lx with the
> Motorola Cellect1+ card which I recently bought. I tried to run the
> driver program celectdr.exe but it returns every time with:
>
> Not using Card Services.
> Modem initialisation failed
> Please re-run with /D option to diagnose
>
> With the /D option it does not recognize that a modem card has been
> inserted.
>
> When I however run my communication program (Goin'Postal), it recognizes
>
> the Motorola Celect 1+ card (with standard initialisation) and then....
> my phone switches off which is a .... Motorola CD920.
>
> I tried different initializations, etc. etc. but everytime my phone
> switches off.
>
> Ofcourse, I subscribed to the data/fax facilities of my provider
> (Swisscom).
>
> Could anyone help me how I can use a GSM PCMCIA card with my HP200LX
> palmtop and my cellular Motorola phone
>
> Thanks,
> Vincent Rikkink
>
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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:06:51 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:43:49 -0400 (EDT)

10h29m59s ago ...
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Following the supplied instructions, it says to mark the
> file(s) that you wish to archive with the space bar then go to the =
directy
> you wish to place the archive, press F5, enter the filename of the =
archive,
> the press F2 then OK to create the archive.
>
> In real life I can't seem to get these instructions to work. When I =
mark the
> files I want archived then go to the directory I want to place the =
archive
> and press F5 I get a window that says "Go to: c:\somedirectoryname".

You've almost got it.  8-)   When you see the GoTo "whatever". hit
backspace to delete "whatever" and type a name for your archive.  Then
hit F2 (Copy) and OK or Enter and that's it.  Actually, I don't think
you even need to do the backspace.  If you just start typing when the
GoTo window opens, it should erase "whatever" and put your file name
in.

Or you could do it the way I do -- described in the first "Zippin'
etc." post.  It's a little different, and maybe easier.

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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:06:57 -0400
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Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:34:53 -0400 (EDT)

11h06m32s ago ...
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> This may be a silly question, but what are the commands for the appointm=
ent
> and communication applications?

Not silly at all.  If you're using .xfe to set up program launches try
this:  Use your editor and write this line:
$m {xb000}
and save it as appt.xfe
do the same thing for datacomm but change the part in curly brackets to
xb200  and save as comm.xfe

That should do it.  Same idea works for any built-in app or .exm
registered in AppMgr or MoreEXM.  The part in curly brackets will be
the letter x and the hex code for the hotkey.  If you have KeyM from
SUPER, it makes it easy to look up the hotkey codes.

HTH

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Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:03:13 -0400 (EDT)

Hi again folks...

For those caught up in "Findermania", here's some more stuff on using
PKUNZIP.  I played around a little with this and made some changes in
the .env file.  In the .zip part of "Execution by matched extension",
try this:

.zip=09,k=09,pkunzip -v %c
=09,200+lt=09,pkunzip %c -d %t\%x;%t\%x|\
=09,200+lc=09,pkunzip %c -d %m

The first line changes unzip to pkunzip, and the -l parameter to -v.
The second line is the same as the original except for changing to
pkunzip.  It unzips to c:\trash\(a subdirectory with the same name as
the .zip).  (Do ShiftEnter)

The third line is a major change.  The old line seemed pretty useless
to me, so this one will do a quick unzip of the whole archive to the
opposite side of the screen. (Do CtrlEnter).

All these assume pkunzip is in your path.

HTH

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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:05:24 -0700
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Hi,

I wouldn't mind playing around with Braincell. How much for it?

Thanks,

Philippe ;)

----- Original Message -----
From: Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 1:37 AM
Subject: Dumpster diving...


> Hi all,
>
> Found several complete Excel 2.10 diskette packages in a dumpster, no docs
> though. Think about it, 33 and still diving in dumpsters! About time to
get
> a life...
>
> Anyway, thought I would try it on the palmtop, now I have to decide
between
> Minix and everything else on my 32 MB CF card... :-(
>
> I also found a complete Works 2.0, but it is in Norwegian...
>
> An old Excel add-in called Braincell, don't know if it works with Excel
2.1,
> it is a neural net thing.
>
> And some other old junk... :-)
>
>
> br
>
> Franklin
>
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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:00:08 +0200
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              Jasper de Jong <jsdejong@WXS.NL>
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Hi!

Is there a way to calculate hex-numbers from decimal entries in the HP
Calc? I tried several things but I didn't find it (now I'm not eactly a
math-miracle).
Did I overlook anything?

Thanks
jasper

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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:25:47 -0700
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In the 200lx there is included a program called hexcalc that does that and
more.

Look at d:\bin\hexcalc.exm

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper de Jong <jsdejong@WXS.NL>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 11:11 AM
Subject: Dec->Hex


>Hi!
>
>Is there a way to calculate hex-numbers from decimal entries in the HP
>Calc? I tried several things but I didn't find it (now I'm not eactly a
>math-miracle).
>Did I overlook anything?
>
>Thanks
>jasper
>
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>
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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:58:21 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Comments: To: Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>

hi Philippe,

Don't know really. Answered somebody else first, your second. Where do you
live? What is it worth to you/what could you trade? this is version 1.2,
requires excel+win3.0, looks complete.

I'm located in Oslo, Norway.

br

Franklin

-----Original Message-----
From: Philippe Lewis <p.lewis@USA.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 15. april 1999 20:05
Subject: Re: Dumpster diving...


>Hi,
>
>I wouldn't mind playing around with Braincell. How much for it?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Philippe ;)
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
>To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 1:37 AM
>Subject: Dumpster diving...
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Found several complete Excel 2.10 diskette packages in a dumpster, no
docs
>> though. Think about it, 33 and still diving in dumpsters! About time to
>get
>> a life...
>>
>> Anyway, thought I would try it on the palmtop, now I have to decide
>between
>> Minix and everything else on my 32 MB CF card... :-(
>>
>> I also found a complete Works 2.0, but it is in Norwegian...
>>
>> An old Excel add-in called Braincell, don't know if it works with Excel
>2.1,
>> it is a neural net thing.
>>
>> And some other old junk... :-)
>>
>>
>> br
>>
>> Franklin
>>
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From:         Mina Carson <MCarson@ORST.EDU>
Subject:      200LX vs. Psion Series 5

Yeah Chris! The readers of this list listened to ME go on and on when I made
a similar move to Psion Series 5 and then scuttled back again to the 200lx.
You cited some reasons I forgot that were equally potent to me, like the
"made-up" feel of the software, its internal inconsistency, the fragility of
the Psion case, the unreadability of the screen (so murky compared to the
HP), my homesickness for the LX database, the truly profligate and unwieldy
way the internal architecture stores data here and there, the comparatively
short battery life, etc., etc. You know, I've kept my hands on the Psion,
but if there's anyone out there who wants one (even after Chris's and my own
and others' negative advertising), please email me. I've even got the
blankity-blank modem, AND the Halliwell movie software (that is, a big ol'
program that lists hundreds and hundreds of movies, actors, etc.). I'm not
sure it's appropriate to advertise a non-HP product on this list (I can't
remember), so I won't quote a price...but email me if you're interested.

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:46:03 +1200
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   >Hey, I'm 40 in a month or two and I still do that.  Dumpster diving
   >is entertaining, profitable, and good training for when I'm too old
   >to work! :)
   >Phil

Hey, I'm 43, (birthday last monday!) and I firmly believe some
men's rubbish is another man's gold.

I picked up a 1989 Sanyo 8088 luggable from a roadside junk pile,
it has a 360k floppy, 20meg HD and was running Dos 3.0 and a
run-time Excel 2.01 and apart from weighing in at about 50 lbs,
it works a treat!

The original owner was a boatyard downtown Auckland, and when I
contacted them, they said they remembered it fondly, as it was
the "Bleeding-edge" of computational power back then, and they
paid $8,750.00 NZ for it.

If only there was a way to find out about all the unused,
unwanted stuff out there, I heard a depressing story about a guy
who bought a 200LX from somebody who didn't want it, for
$100.00!!! There are probably machines out there lying dis-used
in draws just pining for a loving owner...


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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:50:00 -0700
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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I have one called TransText-96, a "hypertext word processor"

At 12:53 AM 4/15/99 -0400, you wrote:
> Is there a simple TEXT html editor for DOS (doesnt need color or gfx)
>just something to cut and paste or edit HTML stuff but has to do so under
>HTML format of course (otherwise id use any text editor)
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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:19:29 -0400
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JM wrote:

 > I am trying to multiply two vectors in derive. It isn't doing
 > it right because I am setting it up wrong. Can someone explain
 > how to do it? I'd look in the manual only I don't have one<g>.


See the following links for general derive manual type info.

http://cedar.evansville.edu/~mg3/derive/program.html
http://www.etown.edu/home/math/labs.shtml
http://www.math.okstate.edu/archives/books.html
http://www.can.nl/SystemsOverview/General/Derive/grandtour/derive.html

And of course, http://www.derive.com

About vector multiplication, the manual (win hlp file) says:
Use the * (times) operator or implicit multiplication to multiply each
element of a vector by a scalar.  Use the / operator to divide each element
of a vector by a scalar.  For example,

3 2=B7x, -5, x2

simplifies to

6=B7x, -15, 3=B7x2

Use the  .  (period) infix operator to compute the dot product (also called
the inner product) of vectors and matrices.  To prevent a period used for
the dot product operator from being interpreted as a decimal point, use a
space to separate the period from numbers that immediately precede or
follow it.

The * operator or implicit multiplication can also be used to compute dot
products provided the operands are vectors or have variables that have been
declared nonscalar (see the Declare Variable Domain command).

The dot product of two vectors (also called the scalar product) is the sum
of the products of corresponding elements of the vectors.  The dimensions
of the vectors must be the same.  Note that the result is a scalar.  For
example,

2, a, 5 =B7 2=B7a, 3, -1

simplifies to

7=B7a - 5

The dot product of a matrix and a vector is the vector whose elements are
the dot product of the vector and the rows of the matrix.  The dimension of
the vector must be the same as the dimension of the rows of the matrix.
For example,

a, b, c, d =B7 2, 3

display as

 a  b 
|      | =B7 2, 3
 c  d         =A0

and simplifies to

2=B7a + 3=B7b, 2=B7c + 3=B7d

The dot product of a vector and a matrix is the vector whose elements are
the dot product of the vector and the columns of the matrix.  The dimension
of the vector must be the same as the dimension of the matrix.  For example,

2, 3 =B7 a, b, c, d

display as

           a  b 
2, 3 =B7  |      |
           c  d 

and simplifies to

2=B7a + 3=B7c, 2=B7b + 3=B7d

Use CROSS to compute the cross product of two vectors.  Both vectors must
have three elements or both must have two elements.  For example,

CROSS(1, 2, 3, a, b, c)

simplifies to

2=B7c - 3=B7b, 3=B7a - c, b - 2=B7a

and

CROSS(1, 2, a, b)

simplifies to

b - 2=B7a
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Juha Husgafvel wrote:

 > I have made available a port of Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions
 > at:
 > http://www.tuug.org/~hysky
 >

Wow.  Very nice.  Does this Perl compile or remain interpreted?  What is
the distribution rights of code I generate with it?

I also noticed the Win95 Filer on your web page.  Is this an older or newer
program?  Is it meant to compete/replace Transfile200?
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Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH> wrote:

> What exactly do you miss on the HP that you had on the Psion? (Fishing
> for ideas to improve POST/LX).

> Andreas

1. How about editing capability of the received e-mail, so that I can
change the Subject line easier for me to remember the content of the
e-mails? I am not a POST/LX user, so not sure whether this already
available in it... Outlook98 has this capability - very convenient.

2. The same capability for "sent mailbox". I am using pine and I found it
would be nicer if I can edit out the attachment for the "sent mail",
archiving only the message part only in sent mailbox.

3. I think POST/LX has "sorting" capability - Is it only for viewing or
does it really save the mails in that order? In pine, it is only for
viewing, so I have to change the viewing option every time I open the mail
folder.  This would be convenient if I saved mails in the mail folder in a
random order in received order but I want to see the folder in received
order. Or, each mail folder could have its associated viewing options...

Hope I qualify for a WWW/LX with these ideas :-)

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Hi

Does anyone know the latest version to run on the DOS LX and
where I could get a copy? Also is there a version of Matlab
or Mathamatica that works? Thanks.

John

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On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> Does anyone know the latest version to run on the DOS LX and where I
> could get a copy? Also is there a version of Matlab or Mathamatica
> that works? Thanks.

The latest version of Derive that works on the 200LX is whatever the
latest DOS version is-- 4.11 was the latest I've seen.  The information at
the end of my article in the latest Palmtop Paper says that it's $199 or
$69 for students and faculty.

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. You know, I've kept my hands on the Psion,
>but if there's anyone out there who wants one (even after Chris's and
my own
>and others' negative advertising), please email me. I've even got the
>blankity-blank modem, AND the Halliwell movie software (that is, a
big ol'
>program that lists hundreds and hundreds of movies, actors, etc.).
I'm not
>sure it's appropriate to advertise a non-HP product on this list (I
can't
>remember), so I won't quote a price...but email me if you're
interested.
>Mina Carson>mcarson@orst.edu


Hi Mina,

I'm interested in the Psion being an old Psion LX64 user before I
upgraded to the HP200 (a turbo LX with 6Mb Ram).

The main reason for my interest is that I wrote some engineering
OPL programs on the LX64 which I've been told with minor
re-work will run on the Series 5.

What sort of figure did you have in mind.

Best regards.....Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia

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>When the dust settles and all the kinks are worked out, would anybody
>like to write an updated review for THE HP PALMTOP PAPER of X-Finder?
>It would be a combo of what the program can do (maybe best expressed
in
>how someone uses it) and as sidebar, installation/setup info.
>Hal at Thaddeus


I second that, but as I don't subscribe to the Palmtop Paper (I know -
"shame
on you 8-)  ), I think if it was posted to Super as either a txt
reference file or
posted as a web page.

I must admit to being envious, about all these oohs and aahs about
x-finder,
time is the only thing stopping me downloading and playing with
it.....yet!

Best regards to all and have a good weekend......Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia (still enjoying 30C + days)

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There is also a 8086/8088 emulator for Psion5 thou not good for any type
of graphic stuff it does run standard TEXT and COMM apps ok

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Hello

Does anyone know if news/lx supports multiple news servers?
Also what is a good way of using the clipboard under SysMan
and with SC sessions? I would like to be able to cut andpaste
in whatever session I am in--is that possible? Also does anyone
know if the keys Fn+cut, etc will work under dos? Is there a
dos tsr that will keep the clipboard open in dos? Thks!

John

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Stefan wrote:

>> The free power menu program is only 3KB in size.
>> Download from:
>> http://bin.alkaid.ml.org/alkaid/dos/power-10.zip


I've tried a number of times to get to this URL but
always get Error 404 '...Host not responding'. Is it
correct?

TIA Roger Whitmarsh

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I don't know if answered this already, but I don't know if it does.
It creates a virtual independant machine for each session so I think
you would need a clipboard tsr to do it.


Don E. Weatherly writes:
> Does DR-DOS permit cut & paste between programs loaded in sessions/windows?
>
> At 03:17 AM 4/9/99 +0200, you wrote:
> I switched to Dr-DOS which has built-in task switching and multitasking so
> I don't need it.  Would you be interested in that?
>
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On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:56:31 -0500, Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> wrote:

> and as sidebar, installation/setup info.

That's gonna be one great big sidebar <g>.

73 Jeff

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Some questions to you Perl hotshots:

1. Can anyone provide some discussion about PERL versions? I have a PERL 4.1.9
and another (recently announced here) version 4.0.36 (with PAL ext.)

Books I see are usually for Perl 5.

2. Could someone knowledgeable please provide some info on differences and
relevance to Palmtop?

3. Also, if you can, some info on implementation of Perl in the WWW
environment. Specifically: Let's suppose I want to add some "brains" behind
the Webpages. I understand I can write PERL programs that will be activated
when one clicks on a link, or otherwise fetches a URL.

4. What is the extent of the work PERL can do?

I mean: Can it generate entire HTML docs and send them on the fly to the
requesting user?

5. Can I using Perl go to some URL on a Webpage that uses a form, enter the
data in the form, "press" Enter, then grab the output, manipulate that output
and include parts of it in a HTML doc created on the fly which then would be
displayed to the original requester? I want to keep the access to the form
and the results invisible from the original requester, i.e. just process the
stuff, and repackage it in ways that are more er... palatable?, readable?

Anyone can provide info on this I'd appreciate a great deal. I am sure many of
us here are hungry for this kind of info.

Thank you in advance!

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> 1. How about editing capability of the received e-mail, so that I can
> change the Subject line easier for me to remember the content of the
> e-mails? I am not a POST/LX user, so not sure whether this already
> available in it... Outlook98 has this capability - very convenient.

Just edit it! :) Post/LX will incredulously ask you if you really mean it, but
will simply fire up the editor and go for it.

> 2. The same capability for "sent mailbox". I am using pine and I found it
> would be nicer if I can edit out the attachment for the "sent mail",
> archiving only the message part only in sent mailbox.

Same. There is a direct command to remove attachments from an inbox message.
The out box messages do not contain the actual attachment, only the file name.

> 3. I think POST/LX has "sorting" capability - Is it only for viewing or
> does it really save the mails in that order? In pine, it is only for

The physical message file (.i) does not change. What is sorted is the index to
that file.

> viewing, so I have to change the viewing option every time I open the mail
> folder.  This would be convenient if I saved mails in the mail folder in a

No, if you sort that order remains until you resort. Each file has own index.

> Hope I qualify for a WWW/LX with these ideas :-)

I think the best idea is for you to download the package, install it, and play
with it. It is the real live full code. The only limitation is that in online
sessions it cuts off at 16K bytes transmitted (including all the bytes,
protocol, handshake, bla bla...) But asdie from it, you have it all there..

Your suggestions are going in the good direction, I am sure of it, because
they all already implemented. But maybe you'll come up with the "killer
features" _after_ you get to play with the actual programs, so I encourage you
to do it... Thanks for the thoughts!

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It's a pleasure to try to be of help to someone who so regularly
helps others.

While I hardly qualify as a `hotshot' I have done a fair amount of
PERL on NT/95 and Dos (incl HP200) environments.

Quick overview:
   I see two dimensions of differences:
     (1) Windows vs. DOS based
     (2) Pre-Object Perl vs Object-Perl

The first is particularly important v-a-v the `longfilename' question.
While all the Perls I have seen will run fine in NT or 95 DOS Windows,
you see an important behavioral difference in what you get when you
`readdir' for example. In the PERL on the NTResourceKit, for example,
readdir produces full (long) filenames. Most of the other Perls I have
tried produce (8.3) Filenames. This, of course, can cause some
difficulties for RE searches for files, etc.

The second dimension, Pre/Post Object, represents the step from the
V4 Perls into the V5 Perls. V4 Perls did not have `objects' or
pointer operations like `->'. I recall there are some other much
more subtle differences, but they have never seemed to bother my code
much (perhaps I was just lucky). I'm sure someone can point you to a
list of specifics, but I doubt if they would influence choice of
which to use much. V5 also introduced `packages' and much more
sophisticated `module' management.

I believe that all V4 Perls are `short filename', although I am not
positive of this. It is fair to say, I think, that some V4 Perls tend to
be quite a bit samller than the V5s, so that all of the implementations
that run on the 200Lx, for example, are V4.

I'll intersperse a few further comments below...

A Meshar wrote:
>
> Some questions to you Perl hotshots:
>
> 1. Can anyone provide some discussion about PERL versions? I have a PERL 4.1.9
> and another (recently announced here) version 4.0.36 (with PAL ext.)
>
> Books I see are usually for Perl 5.
>
> 2. Could someone knowledgeable please provide some info on differences and
> relevance to Palmtop?
>

I'd guess that you're pretty much restricted to a V4 implementation for
use on the 200Lx. I don't know enough about specific version differences
to say much more. I use a 4.0.1.6 (dated 92.03.01) which is 353,568
bytes. My 4.0.1.8 (dated 93.02.05) is 610,223 bytes, but I don't know
of anything it does that the smaller one doesn't (I'm sure there
are some things, but I haven't run into them). The V5 versions are
also in the 600K range.

>
> 3. Also, if you can, some info on implementation of Perl in the WWW
> environment. Specifically: Let's suppose I want to add some "brains" behind
> the Webpages. I understand I can write PERL programs that will be activated
> when one clicks on a link, or otherwise fetches a URL.
>

There are several Perl-CGI `packages' as well as some `Active Perl'
support that is quite relevant to running rather sophisticated
Web sites. There is also some discussion about how `dangerous' this
all is from a security standpoint.

>
> 4. What is the extent of the work PERL can do?
>
> I mean: Can it generate entire HTML docs and send them on the fly to the
> requesting user?
>

I'd say `sure', although I haven't done much of this myself. It strikes
me as a `natural' for PERL though.

>
> 5. Can I using Perl go to some URL on a Webpage that uses a form, enter the
> data in the form, "press" Enter, then grab the output, manipulate that output
> and include parts of it in a HTML doc created on the fly which then would be
> displayed to the original requester? I want to keep the access to the form
> and the results invisible from the original requester, i.e. just process the
> stuff, and repackage it in ways that are more er... palatable?, readable?
>

I surely think so, but I'd rather leave this to someone with more
knowledge than me.

>
> Anyone can provide info on this I'd appreciate a great deal. I am sure many of
> us here are hungry for this kind of info.
>
> Thank you in advance!
>
>   Avi M. D&A
>

I hope this at least starts to help. I look forward to further answers
as well.

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A Meshar wrote:
>
> Some questions to you Perl hotshots:
>
> 1. Can anyone provide some discussion about PERL versions? I have a PERL 4.1.9
> and another (recently announced here) version 4.0.36 (with PAL ext.)
>
> Books I see are usually for Perl 5.
>
> 2. Could someone knowledgeable please provide some info on differences and
> relevance to Palmtop?

Perl 5 is worlds more advanced than 4.0.36.  Lots of object-oriented and
variable scoping stuff was added.  As a business tool, it became much
more powerful.  I doubt you will mourn not having those features on your
palmtop.  Not sure of the differences between 4.0.16 and 4.19, because
I've never seen a 4.19 DOS version.  If you have one, and it works on
the palmtop, I'd certainly be willing to research the differences if you
could get me a copy.

> 3. Also, if you can, some info on implementation of Perl in the WWW
> environment. Specifically: Let's suppose I want to add some "brains" behind
> the Webpages. I understand I can write PERL programs that will be activated
> when one clicks on a link, or otherwise fetches a URL.

You are referring to CGI programs (Common Gateway Interface).  You tell
your web server that for certain types of files, instead of sending the
contents of the file to the web browser, they should be executed, being
fed certain data from the browser, and their output should be sent to
the web browser.  You can do that in any language, really, it's just
that some are more suited for it than others.  I have CGI scripts on my
server written in regular bourne shell, awk, compiled C, and perl.

> 4. What is the extent of the work PERL can do?

Perl can do almost any platform-independent thing you can think of.
It's main strengths are:
- Incredibly easy and powerful string handling
- Very powerful regular expression searching and replacing
- Automatic memory allocation/garbage collection
- It's compiles at runtime, so you can just edit and run
- Loose variable type checking and automatic casting to whatever you can
dream up
- Connectivity to most databases
- Cenvenient text file handling

Website programming usually involves string manipulation and searching
submitted text for characters, so it's a natural for websites.  On the
other hand, C is horrible at both.  Of course C is faster, though.

There is an extremely large library of categorized libraries (called
packages in Perl) and routines at http://www.cpan.org (Comprehensive
Perl Archive Network) to perform any kind of math, manipulate strings,
serve any IP protocol or connect to them as a client, process log files,
you name it.  May of these would be unusable in a 4.0 perl, but web
sites use lots of them.  In fact, almost all perl-based web sites use
CGI.pm, which handles the passing in and out of values in CGI scripts,
and automatically generates a lot of the HTML for handling forms.  Most
UNIX-based websites use perl, but not always exclusively.

> I mean: Can it generate entire HTML docs and send them on the fly to the
> requesting user?

Absolutely.  The last two companies I worked for used perl scripts to
run their entire web products, reading databases and processing input as
needed.  There were almost no HTML files; everything was generated live
by the perl scripts.

> 5. Can I using Perl go to some URL on a Webpage that uses a form, enter the
> data in the form, "press" Enter, then grab the output, manipulate that output
> and include parts of it in a HTML doc created on the fly which then would be
> displayed to the original requester? I want to keep the access to the form
> and the results invisible from the original requester, i.e. just process the
> stuff, and repackage it in ways that are more er... palatable?, readable?

That's what Tiggers do best!  Ask me offline for sample code if you
want.  I can show you how easy it is.  In fact, I wrote a  script called
"formproc" for my server where I can send the contents of any form (with
a couple of special added fields), and the one script can do any or all
of:
-Send it to me in an email
-Forward it to my alphanumeric pager
-Print out debugging information on the sender and the information sent
-Redirect to another page, possibly generated on the fly
-Write the form field values out to a text file

> Anyone can provide info on this I'd appreciate a great deal. I am sure many of
> us here are hungry for this kind of info.

You can go to http://www.perl.org or http://www.perl.com (two different
sites) for information on perl, and http://www.cpan.org for more perl
info.  Or just ask me if you have any questions.  Valen knows I've
gotten enough info from you guys.


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Avi:
Just an unsolicited compliment on Magnify.  It is an invaluable and useful
tool for this long-time HP200LX user with 51 year old eyes.  In particular,
in low-light situations, it's always there to help.   Thanks for such a
great program!

Les

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A Meshar wrote:

>1. Can anyone provide some discussion about PERL versions? I have a PERL=
 4.1.9
>and another (recently announced here) version 4.0.36 (with PAL ext.)
>Books I see are usually for Perl 5.
>2. Could someone knowledgeable please provide some info on differences =
and
>relevance to Palmtop?

Version 5 added some object-oriented stuff, and does better at
variable scoping I believe. Get the latest version - it's free!

>3. Also, if you can, some info on implementation of Perl in the WWW
>environment. Specifically: Let's suppose I want to add some "brains" =
behind
>the Webpages. I understand I can write PERL programs that will be =
activated
>when one clicks on a link, or otherwise fetches a URL.
>
>4. What is the extent of the work PERL can do?
>
>I mean: Can it generate entire HTML docs and send them on the fly to the
>requesting user?

Perl is a programming language which can do just about anything you
want. CGI is the term for running a program when a user requests a
URL. Most CGI is done with the Perl language, because what you're
doing is taking some text input from the user (fill-in forms, etc),
and generating text output (HTML text that is). But it's certainly
possible to do CGI in C or anything else. Perl is exceptionally good
at handling text, so it's popular for this. CGI gives the Perl program
its input through STDIN, and the Perl program's STDOUT (the print
statement) is sent back to the user (just like simple console programs
do). All you have to do is make what comes out be legal HTML.

>5. Can I using Perl go to some URL on a Webpage that uses a form, enter =
the
>data in the form, "press" Enter, then grab the output, manipulate that =
output
>and include parts of it in a HTML doc created on the fly which then =
would be
>displayed to the original requester? I want to keep the access to the =
form
>and the results invisible from the original requester, i.e. just process=
 the
>stuff, and repackage it in ways that are more er... palatable?, =
readable?

I believe it can, though I've never tried it. Lurk in the
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi newsgroup to learn more.

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Donglok Kim wrote:
> Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH> wrote:
>
> > What exactly do you miss on the HP that you had on the Psion? (Fishing
> > for ideas to improve POST/LX).
>
> > Andreas
>
> 1. How about editing capability of the received e-mail

What about (in POST/LX) pressing F6 labelled "Edit"?

> I am not a POST/LX user, so not sure whether this already
> available in it...

Ah, I see. :-)

> 2. The same capability for "sent mailbox".

F6 again.

> 3. I think POST/LX has "sorting" capability

Yes, it has.

> - Is it only for viewing or
> does it really save the mails in that order?

It does not physically sort (which would take longer than you would be
willing to wait), but it is permanent, i.e. when you exit the program
and start it again, the each folders sorting order is the same as when
you left it the last time.

> Hope I qualify for a WWW/LX with these ideas :-)

Well, nothing new I had to implement. ;-) Thanks anyway!

But you might want to have a look at POST/LX.

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How about these<g>?

I believe it can already send to a list of addresses
and can sort messages according to how its addressed.

How about rudimentry list serv capabilities such
as being able to check for a subscribe, unsubscribe
then adding/removing the email address to a list.
Checking and returning messages that don't come
from the right email address.
Then automatically being able to forward messages
addressed to the list to the list of addresses.
It'd be really cool to run
a list serv from a 200LX with software written for
the 200LX<g>.

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Andreas,

> > Hope I qualify for a WWW/LX with these ideas :-)
>
> Well, nothing new I had to implement. ;-) Thanks anyway!

that's what I call fast turnaround on customer's requests! :-)

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David Kramer <david@KRAMER.NE.MEDIAONE.NET> writes:

> palmtop.  Not sure of the differences between 4.0.16 and 4.19, because
> I've never seen a 4.19 DOS version.  If you have one, and it works on
> the palmtop, I'd certainly be willing to research the differences if you
> could get me a copy.

Actually I am more interested in the comparison between V 4.x and V 5. If V5
is able to run on the palmtop and is available somewhere, I'd love to know
what I am gaining/losing in going V5 vs. V4 (generic).

You say more advanced and more of a business tool. What specifics can you
point to?

> You are referring to CGI programs (Common Gateway Interface).  You tell
> your web server that for certain types of files, instead of sending the
> contents of the file to the web browser, they should be executed, being
> fed certain data from the browser, and their output should be sent to
> the web browser.  You can do that in any language, really, it's just
> that some are more suited for it than others.  I have CGI scripts on my
> server written in regular bourne shell, awk, compiled C, and perl.

Ok, so that's the mechanism. I read about it pages and pages, and you made it
clear in a few words! Thanks.

> It's main strengths are:
> - Incredibly easy and powerful string handling

I noticed so far!!! Really strong stuff..

> - It's compiles at runtime, so you can just edit and run

Can the .PLs be compiled and remain as .EXEs? Anything available on the
Palmtop? I admit I have not researched all the parameters yet...

> - Connectivity to most databases

Hooray!!!

> Website programming usually involves string manipulation and searching
> submitted text for characters, so it's a natural for websites.  On the
> other hand, C is horrible at both.  Of course C is faster, though.

Ah, the Allure of C! Some constructs in Perl are reminiscent of C, but it
ain't a duck.

> There is an extremely large library of categorized libraries (called
> packages in Perl) and routines at http://www.cpan.org (Comprehensive
> Perl Archive Network) to perform any kind of math, manipulate strings,

Thanks for the ref...

> sites use lots of them.  In fact, almost all perl-based web sites use
> CGI.pm, which handles the passing in and out of values in CGI scripts,
> and automatically generates a lot of the HTML for handling forms.  Most
> UNIX-based websites use perl, but not always exclusively.

Yummy! looks like some of the work is becoming easier! :)

> Absolutely.  The last two companies I worked for used perl scripts to
> run their entire web products, reading databases and processing input as
> needed.  There were almost no HTML files; everything was generated live
> by the perl scripts.

Ok, ok!!!

> That's what Tiggers do best!  Ask me offline for sample code if you
> want.  I can show you how easy it is.  In fact, I wrote a  script called
> "formproc" for my server where I can send the contents of any form (with

Woof!! That list is a handful of gems... My offline email is on the way!!!

> You can go to http://www.perl.org

Been there - rich!!! Excellent stuff...

> or http://www.perl.com

Been there - rich!!! Excellent materials and resources.

>  http://www.cpan.org for more perl

Did not know this one... Thank you.

This is terrific. Two responses and I feel so much easier and less worried
about all this!

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David Ness <DNess@Home.Com> writes:

> It's a pleasure to try to be of help to someone who so regularly
> helps others.

I knew one day my turn will come :) ... In truth, here, as in HPHAND, I have
learned much much more from others than I ever hope to give to others, and I
am not just being humble..

> While I hardly qualify as a `hotshot' I have done a fair amount of
> PERL on NT/95 and Dos (incl HP200) environments.

Anyone who knows 5 commands in Perl is a hotshot in my book! :)

> Quick overview:
>    I see two dimensions of differences:
>      (1) Windows vs. DOS based
>      (2) Pre-Object Perl vs Object-Perl
>
> The first is particularly important v-a-v the `longfilename' question.
> While all the Perls I have seen will run fine in NT or 95 DOS Windows,
> you see an important behavioral difference in what you get when you
> `readdir' for example. In the PERL on the NTResourceKit, for example,
> readdir produces full (long) filenames. Most of the other Perls I have
> tried produce (8.3) Filenames. This, of course, can cause some
> difficulties for RE searches for files, etc.

Ah, but if you confine yourself to naming all your resources where your Perl
program works to 8x3 than you should be just fine, I assume.

> The second dimension, Pre/Post Object, represents the step from the
> V4 Perls into the V5 Perls. V4 Perls did not have `objects' or
> pointer operations like `->'. I recall there are some other much
> more subtle differences, but they have never seemed to bother my code
> much (perhaps I was just lucky). I'm sure someone can point you to a
> list of specifics, but I doubt if they would influence choice of
> which to use much. V5 also introduced `packages' and much more
> sophisticated `module' management.

Ok, I suppose studying Perl 5 book while using Perl 4 would do much to hone
those differences and their impact.

> I believe that all V4 Perls are `short filename', although I am not
> positive of this. It is fair to say, I think, that some V4 Perls tend to
> be quite a bit samller than the V5s, so that all of the implementations
> that run on the 200Lx, for example, are V4.

Any Perl 5 run on the Palmtop?

> I'd guess that you're pretty much restricted to a V4 implementation for
> use on the 200Lx. I don't know enough about specific version differences

Ah, I see the answer here... Almost...

> are some things, but I haven't run into them). The V5 versions are
> also in the 600K range.

But none run on the 200LX? Or?

> There are several Perl-CGI `packages' as well as some `Active Perl'
> support that is quite relevant to running rather sophisticated
> Web sites. There is also some discussion about how `dangerous' this
> all is from a security standpoint.

Why security problems? I read a tiny bit in the CGI literature about holes
opened up by casual, careless, and dumb coding practices. Aside from that (of
which I am perfectly capable, I assure you <G>) is there something inherent in
Perl/CGI stuff? It seems one would have to hack his/her way into an
execute-only directory to fathom out what a Perl program is doing, really...
Of course this has been done before, but I can do little about it and have to
rely on some explosive payloads I'll be preparing for hackers <G>... And the
security of my ISP, and so on... (Hey, we could not even prevent someone from
assuming my identity...)

> > I mean: Can it generate entire HTML docs and send them on the fly to the
> > requesting user?
>
> I'd say `sure', although I haven't done much of this myself. It strikes
> me as a `natural' for PERL though.

Excellent.

> I hope this at least starts to help. I look forward to further answers
> as well.

It is excellent so far! Thank you kindly.

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Curtis Cameron <curtisc1@cyberramp.net> Writes:

> Version 5 added some object-oriented stuff, and does better at
> variable scoping I believe. Get the latest version - it's free!

Free is good, but will she run on the Palmtop?

> Perl is a programming language which can do just about anything you
> want. CGI is the term for running a program when a user requests a
  ...
> do). All you have to do is make what comes out be legal HTML.

Thanks. I understand the relationship now better. And so Perl's ability to
output good HTML is wholly depepndent on the programmer! GIGO principle in
action... Nothing new here... I learned it the hard way in 1966 writing COBOL
and Assembler code for "mainframes" (IBM 360/20 - with 32K main memory - yes,
K, not M or G, K! :) I have in my pocket a machine that is about 500 times
stronger, and smaller :) ...)

> I believe it can, though I've never tried it. Lurk in the
> comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi newsgroup to learn more.

Thanks for the reference!!! Boy, you ask a question, next thing you know you
have all these resources to look up, lurk, learn!!! Good going, y'all! Thank
you.

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I found my LX at a local 2nd hand computer store. I waltzed in and
offered him $175 for it because that's what I'd seen them going for on
Ebay. His eyes lit up and he said SURE!  I'll bet he gave the guy $40 or
$50 for it when he bought it, and thought I was a nut case when I came
in offering $175.
It's a 2meg 200LX, and it came with an EXP modem card with 2 mg storage,
a dictionary card, a game card, and a whole bunch of various manuals. I
think I got a pretty decent deal.
Maybe I should have offered him $75 instead!  : )

Steve

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        If only there was a way to find out about all the unused,
        unwanted stuff out there, I heard a depressing story about a guy
        who bought a 200LX from somebody who didn't want it, for
        $100.00!!! There are probably machines out there lying dis-used
        in draws just pining for a loving owner...


        David Lawrence
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I found a solution: use PDE (PAL Dialog Editor) to create a dialog box
with just a ListBox, and use the dialog handling functions.

Works great.

Regards,
Paulo

Andreas Garzotto wrote:
>
> Paulo Custodio wrote:
> > I'm trying to use the PAL library to present a list of strings to the
> > user and ask him to select one of them. There is a function in PAL
> > called PickList, but it allows the user to make multiple choices.
> >
> > Does anybody know if there is a similar function for picking a single
> > choice from a list?
>
> You might want to try the menu functions.

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On 16 Apr 99, at 12:12,  Roger Whitmarsh <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> wrote:

> Stefan wrote:
>
> >> The free power menu program is only 3KB in size.
> >> Download from:
> >> http://bin.alkaid.ml.org/alkaid/dos/power-10.zip
>
>
> I've tried a number of times to get to this URL but
> always get Error 404 '...Host not responding'. Is it
> correct?
>
> TIA Roger Whitmarsh
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Try this...
        http://alkaid.knotwork.com/freeware/dos/

All the ml.org stuff went down a few weeks (months?) ago.

Mike



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YES. You got a fairly good deal, you got a lot, but remember those
places will only
pay you at the most 50 cents on the dollar when they buy something.
What they like to pay is 25 cents. So if you see something selling for
500 they probably paid about 125 for it. I'd be willing to bet the guy
only paid 25 and was asking 100. You gotta bargin. It will only save
you money.


Steve Dowell writes:
> I found my LX at a local 2nd hand computer store. I waltzed in and
> offered him $175 for it because that's what I'd seen them going for on
> Ebay. His eyes lit up and he said SURE!  I'll bet he gave the guy $40 or
> $50 for it when he bought it, and thought I was a nut case when I came
> in offering $175.
> It's a 2meg 200LX, and it came with an EXP modem card with 2 mg storage,
> a dictionary card, a game card, and a whole bunch of various manuals. I
> think I got a pretty decent deal.
> Maybe I should have offered him $75 instead!  : )
>
> Steve
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From:   David Lawrence SMTP:katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ
>         Sent:   Thursday, April 15, 1999 4:46 PM
>         To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>         Subject:        Re: Dumpster diving...fluff
>
>
>         If only there was a way to find out about all the unused,
>         unwanted stuff out there, I heard a depressing story about a guy
>         who bought a 200LX from somebody who didn't want it, for
>         $100.00!!! There are probably machines out there lying dis-used
>         in draws just pining for a loving owner...
>
>
>         David Lawrence
>         katana@clear.net.nz
>
>         Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
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Was this meant for POST/LX?

John Musielewicz wrote:
> How about these<g>?
>
> I believe it can already send to a list of addresses
> and can sort messages according to how its addressed.

Yes.

> How about rudimentry list serv capabilities

POST/LX is a mail *client*, not a *server*.

A mail server for the 200LX would be fun of course (but useful?).

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The original site for the power menu program seems to be
removed, but there are many other links (found by archie),
where to find it, like

ftp://ftp.tpnet.pl/pub/msdos/ftp.simtel.net/menu/power-10.zip

To achive good B&W maps from color maps, I recommend:

-start with a designed (not scanned!) color map.

-use a paint program and edit the color palette of the picture:
 Convert bright colors to white, dark colors to black.

-do that incremental, check always, if the map still has all
 information on it, you want to keep.

-save the result as a B&W PCX file using something like
 'nearest color' reduction. Don't use 'dither', because it
 will destroy your work and result in a much larger PCX file

I made good experiences using this method. Look at the german
rail map for example.

Stefan

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Andreas Garzotto writes:
> Was this meant for POST/LX?

Sure.

>
> > How about rudimentry list serv capabilities
>
> POST/LX is a mail *client*, not a *server*.

I realize that it is but it could be used as the engine.

>
> A mail server for the 200LX would be fun of course (but useful?).

Umm, I wonder how useful, but the only spare machine I have is a
200LX and it would probably be well suited for something like that.
It definately wouldn't take up much room. I could transfer data real easy
using the IR so storage wouldn't be a problem. One nice thing about
using POST though is a dialup connection wouldn't be a problem--just use
Appointment to periodically start it. I donno if it would be
worth the work. You might end up with everybody with a spare 200LX
starting their own lists<g>.


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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:21:53 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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From:         Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
Subject:      MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer
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Hello all, below is part of an email I just received from MobilePlanet:-(

AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET:
TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS!

For a limited time, MobilePlanet and HP is offering an opportunity to
qualified owners of HP DOS Palmtop

computers, to
trade-up to the dynamic new Windows CE HP Jornada line of PC
Companions.

Provide your DOS palmtop serial number and get one of the
special Jornada Offers available from MobilePlanet
http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/

Buy the Jornada 820 @$799.95 and Get a *REX-3
Buy the Jornada 680 @$799.95 and Get a *REX-3
Buy the Jornada 420 @$449.95 and Get an extra standard Battery
(F1287A)

*What's a REX-3?  It's the world's smallest connected organizer
that uses your PC Companion's PC Card slot to quickly and easily
download all your organizer data.  Additional features like
calendar, to-do-lists, memos, alarm clock, with the ability
to pop it in your pocket and go, makes the REX-3 the perfect
compliment to your new Jornada 820 or 680.

This offer is for a limited time -- April 1, 1999 to October 31,
1999.  Limit one HP Jornada product per HP DOS Palmtop.  Valid
only in the USA. More Information can be found at
http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:29:00 -0500
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Mack Baggette wrote:

> Hello all, below is part of an email I just received from MobilePlanet:-(
>
> AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET:
> TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS!
>

Trade... UP? UP?     Try Trade DOWN.

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 06:21:24 GMT
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From:         David Hart <hart@CATHOLIC.ORG>
Subject:      My HP LX 200 latch has broken

My latch on my HP 200LX has broken. I pulled out my 200 from my briefcase and the latch was completely missing. Any ideas on where I could get a new one and is it easy to replace?

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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> > Hello all, below is part of an email I just received from
MobilePlanet:-(
> >
> > AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET:
> > TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS!
> >
>
> Trade... UP? UP?     Try Trade DOWN.

Crazy huh? Don't they think people know the difference, but of course some
folks will fall for it.

Cheers,
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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:59:17 -0400
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              systemsconsulting@CSI.COM
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Subject:      Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer
Comments: To: Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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Not me - thanks. I already have a HP 620LX that I can't figure what to do
with - it doesn't seem to have any practical use.



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
Maximizing the results of Information Systems

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> mailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of Mack Baggette
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 9:22 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer
>
>
> Hello all, below is part of an email I just received from MobilePlanet:-(
>
> AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET:
> TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS!

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:05:22 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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From:         Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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John Musielewicz wrote:
> > POST/LX is a mail *client*, not a *server*.
>
> I realize that it is but it could be used as the engine.

An email server and an email client is something very different, like a
library and a customer visiting the library is not the same and does
very different stuff. The only common between a mail server and an
email client (POST/LX) would be the interface to WWW/LX, and that's
maybe 1-2% of the code.

Andreas

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:54:43 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer

<snip>
> This offer is for a limited time -- April 1, 1999 to October 31,
> 1999.  Limit one HP Jornada product per HP DOS Palmtop.  Valid
> only in the USA. More Information can be found at
> http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/

You notice there's no place to send a message to let'em know
what a person thinks of the "offer". What is it--about a 100
dollars is what they're giving for the DOS LX? Its worth more than
that!!

John

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:05:40 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer

Revised edition <grin>


> Hello all, below is part of an email I wish I just received from MobilePlanet:-(
>
> AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET:
> TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP 400LX's
>
> For a limited time, MobilePlanet and HP is offering an opportunity to
> qualified owners of HP DOS Palmtop
>
> computers, to
> trade-up to the dynamic NEW DOS HP 400LX line of PC
> Companions.
>
> Provide your DOS palmtop serial number and get one of the
> special 400LX Offers available from MobilePlanet
> http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/
>
> Buy the 400LX Pentium 300 MHz @$799.95 and Get a *REX-3
> Buy the 400LX 486 100 MHz @$799.95 and Get a *REX-3
> Buy the 400LX 386 50 MHz @$449.95 and Get an extra standard Battery
> (F1287A)
>
> *What's a REX-3?  It's the world's smallest connected organizer
> that uses your PC Companion's PC Card slot to quickly and easily
> download all your organizer data.  Additional features like
> calendar, to-do-lists, memos, alarm clock, with the ability
> to pop it in your pocket and go, makes the REX-3 the perfect
> compliment to your new 400LX.
>
> This offer is for a limited time -- April 1, 1999 to October 31,
> 1999.  Limit one HP 400LX product per HP DOS Palmtop.  Valid
> only in the USA. More Information can be found at
> http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/
>
Someone should send it back to them.

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:59:26 +0200
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Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer

Mack Baggette writes:
> > > Hello all, below is part of an email I just received from
> MobilePlanet:-(
> > >
> > > AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET:
> > > TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS!
> > >
> >
> > Trade... UP? UP?     Try Trade DOWN.
>
> Crazy huh? Don't they think people know the difference, but of course some
> folks will fall for it.
>
> Cheers,
> Mack
>
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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From:         Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Bryan Biggers wrote:
> Mack Baggette wrote:
>
> > Hello all, below is part of an email I just received from MobilePlanet:-(
> >
> > AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET:
> > TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS!
> >
>
> Trade... UP? UP?     Try Trade DOWN.

I also fail to understand: present us with proof of purchase for your
Maseratti and we offer you a cheaper price for one of our broken 2CVs.
Why would anybody want to do that?

Andreas

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:48:51 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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From:         Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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Thought y'all might be "interested" :{)# in this offer from HP
and Mobile Planet, snipped from Mobile Planet's newsletter.


AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET:
TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS!

For a limited time, MobilePlanet and HP is offering an
opportunity to qualified owners of HP DOS Palmtop

computers, to
trade-up to the dynamic new Windows CE HP Jornada line of PC
Companions.

Provide your DOS palmtop serial number and get one of the
special Jornada Offers available from MobilePlanet
http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/

Buy the Jornada 820 @$799.95 and Get a *REX-3
Buy the Jornada 680 @$799.95 and Get a *REX-3
Buy the Jornada 420 @$449.95 and Get an extra standard Battery
(F1287A)

*What's a REX-3?  It's the world's smallest connected organizer
that uses your PC Companion's PC Card slot to quickly and easily
download all your organizer data.  Additional features like
calendar, to-do-lists, memos, alarm clock, with the ability
to pop it in your pocket and go, makes the REX-3 the perfect
compliment to your new Jornada 820 or 680.

This offer is for a limited time -- April 1, 1999 to October 31,
1999.  Limit one HP Jornada product per HP DOS Palmtop.  Valid
only in the USA. More Information can be found at
http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/



Notice - you don't have to give up the DOS palmtop (probably
realized they wouldn't get many takers) to collect.

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:51:41 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      SC problems
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Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Hi,

a few days ago I posted that I have problems with a few TSRs
in combination with SC.

The problem with DOSED is now solved. I just have to load it
_after_ SC, then it works.
But now I got the next prblem:
I use CICFAKE for recognition of Modem cards.
I have one WA set up for email with WWW/LX, so I need
CICFAKE only in this session.
But if I put it in the corresponding batch file and load
it only in this session, I cannot switch to another any more.
If I try to switch from this session to another, the palmtop
hangs up.
So I had to put CICFAKE back in the autoexec.bat again and
load it before SC. Now everything works.

Do anyone have an idea how I could solve this problem?

AND: Did anyone recognize this problem with 123:
I just switched to a WA where I loaded 123 some time
before. When I wanted to make the menu visible (pressing
the menu key), the menu wasn't readable. It appeared, but
looked like garbage.

GTX
daniel

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Germany
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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:52:34 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Motorola Cellect1+ and HP200LX
Comments: To: Vincent Rikkink <vincent.rikkink@XEMICS.CH>
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> I would like to use my HP palmtop 200lx with the
> Motorola Cellect1+ card which I recently bought. I tried to run the
> driver program celectdr.exe but it returns every time with:
>
> Not using Card Services.
> Modem initialisation failed
> Please re-run with /D option to diagnose
>
> With the /D option it does not recognize that a modem card has been
> inserted.
>
> When I however run my communication program (Goin'Postal), it recognizes
>
> the Motorola Celect 1+ card (with standard initialisation) and then....
> my phone switches off which is a .... Motorola CD920.


I don't know that card but you probably should not try to use any of the
software that comes with it for initialization.  Just use the cic100
command as found in a REM statement on the d: drive in the same
autoexec.bat file.  Or use the lxcic command from the supersite.

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--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date- Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:33:49 -0400
From: peter.wuensche@avl.com (Peter Wuensche)

Subscriber Comments: HELP! I own a 200 LX for some years now, and
always backed up my data using that connectivity kit to a 486 desktop.
Now with my Windows NT, this doesn't seem to work anymore, would you
know how to? I am getting nervous about loosing data without backup.
Your reply is much appreciated :-) Peter


--- end of forwarded message ---

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:19:38 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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From:         Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dumpster diving...fluff
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On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Steve Dowell wrote:

> I found my LX at a local 2nd hand computer store. I waltzed in and
> offered him $175 for it because that's what I'd seen them going for on
snip
> Maybe I should have offered him $75 instead!  : )

Believe it or not... I bought my 1st backup 200LX (a 2MB unit) for $50.
<grin> It'd been sitting in a fellow ham's "junk" drawer for two years,
he'd never used it.  Then, I won Dave Sargeant's contest last year, and
got it 2x/8mb'd... <big grin> The unit's now a part of my "test and
experiment" gear at home.  I use it all the time for datacomm/network
stuff (since there's no important data on it).  If the batts die on me, or
if I accidentally hose the memory, no great loss, as I stick my flash card
in and re-copy the speed driver over. Gotta love that 200LX... gotta love
it even more when you get it for a deal.

Of course, there's my other backup unit (a stock 4MB machine) that I paid
$650 for in Jan 1997... ouch.

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN.  It's like riding a
rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway!

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:27:32 +0200
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From:         Rian Maartens <maartens@IAFRICA.COM>
Subject:      Missing my 95LX <was GOOD BY HP200LX HELLO HP95LX>
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Bob1 wrote; >> The reason I can see the text better at 40
col x 16 rows (240 x 128 dots) on my HP95LX. The HP200LX is
80 col x 25 rows (640 x 200 dots) little to small for me.>>

Athough there are some great improvements in the 200lx, which
I now own, there are things which I preferred on my 95LX:

1. In phone you just pressed 'only' and typed in 'John', for
example,  and instantly all the records with John would
appear. On the 200lx I first have to define a subset and then it
still takes a while before they appear.

2. In solver the equation editor didn't add a space
when the line wrapped, now in the 200lx it does it rather
annoyingly.

3. Generally, all searches were much quicker in the 95lx.

Anyone want to add to the list?

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:27:34 +0200
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Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Rian Maartens <maartens@IAFRICA.COM>
Subject:      Re: Battery drain with Creative Labs 14.4 Modem
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Paul wrote;

>>Your experience sounds out of the ordinary. Do you have short battery =
life
without the modem? >>

With my previous 4bm 200 Lx I got about 1 month on Duracell
Alkaline 1500mp Batteries. Since I got my 2x 32Mb 200 Lx at
the end January I get between 1 and 2 weeks. The reason is
I'm using it a lot more, I was told the 2x and 32Mb
combination will reduce battery life by 25% and the few attempts
to connect via modem basically required a new set of
batteries to go in. The bottomline is that I cannot answer
conclusively whether my palmtop has an above average battery
drain beside the modem issue. The fact that you got 1 hour or
so with the modem running gives me hope. Do also have a 2x 32Mb
model?

BTW, I received two identical emails from you, one direct and
one via the HPLX list. I realise its when someone hits reply
and doesn't notice the email will be sent to two different
addresses. I've added '#nospam' to my address because I've seen
others do it and I suppose the reason is not to get double
email. Let me know if I'm on the right track here.

Rian Maartens

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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer
Comments: To: Bryan Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
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> Mack Baggette wrote:
>
> > Hello all, below is part of an email I just received from MobilePlanet:-(
> >
> > AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET:
> > TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS!
> >
>
> Trade... UP? UP?     Try Trade DOWN.
>

Well, as I wrote on CIS - HP does finally admit it takes TWO devices to
replace the "antiquated" HP200 line!!! (G)

But if you want a pen device and the syncing folks want ......

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A Meshar wrote:

> Andreas,
>
> > > Hope I qualify for a WWW/LX with these ideas :-)
> >
> > Well, nothing new I had to implement. ;-) Thanks anyway!
>
> that's what I call fast turnaround on customer's requests! :-)
>
>   Avi M. D&A
>
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Yes...I love the way I can communicate with the person (persons) that
have actually made the program...

Avi..I have been "talking" to Andreas about a phonebookmanagmentprogram
for Nokia 8810/7110 and the Hp 200 lx..

Is this something that are interesting for the Us market...I do not know
if gsm/digital/irda is that widespread "over" there..I know I have been
"nagging" about the Nokia 7110 for a while now, but I do not know if
there is any interest for this where you are. Or if it is a Europeen
"thing"..

Regarding Internet/mail I have seen your Richoet "solution", but nothing
like that here in Norway, so for the "road" its cellular that is the way
to go..

Andreas said that communication between the hp and the Nokia regarding
phonenumbers and sms can be done with not that much work via Robot/lx.

--
Med vennlig hilsen/Regards

Martin Bergvill
Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway
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On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

>
> <snip>
> > This offer is for a limited time -- April 1, 1999 to October 31,
> > 1999.  Limit one HP Jornada product per HP DOS Palmtop.  Valid
> > only in the USA. More Information can be found at
> > http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/

You don't suppose the date had anything to do with it?...

Ted

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1999-04-15-22:19:37 hplx:
> Does this Perl compile or remain interpreted?

All perls, since day one, every one of them ever, compile. They compile to an
intermediate data structure which is then interpreted, very fast. They are
"load-and-go" compilers.

Various hacks have been worked on over the years; old ones of this vintage
(Perl 4 was obsoleted some 7-8 years ago, it just remains the last one that
anyone has ported to 16-bit DOS) knew how to "undump" themselves, producing
essentially a core dump that a "reformatter" could turn into an executable;
this was typically no faster than the original program. That trick was always
terribly system-dependant, and I never heard of anyone trying it anywhere
except Unix.

Very recent perls have got various sorts of compilers available; they don't
apply to this question, and all of 'em need run-time support of one sort or
another that's as heavy-weight as a full perl interpreter anyway.

> What is the distribution rights of code I generate with it?

You write code in perl, it's your code, you can whatever you want with it;
sell it, give it away, whatever.

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Hi Daniel,


<<I use CICFAKE for recognition of Modem cards.
I have one WA set up for email with WWW/LX, so I need
CICFAKE only in this session.
But if I put it in the corresponding batch file and load
it only in this session, I cannot switch to another any more.
If I try to switch from this session to another, the palmtop
hangs up.
So I had to put CICFAKE back in the autoexec.bat again and
load it before SC. Now everything works.>>

Great. I don't think you lose much memory with CICFAKE, unless someone
has ideas, I wouldn't worry about it.

<<AND: Did anyone recognize this problem with 123:
I just switched to a WA where I loaded 123 some time
before. When I wanted to make the menu visible (pressing
the menu key), the menu wasn't readable. It appeared, but
looked like garbage.>>

Is 123 in a 2nd system manager session? My guess is that has to do with
an old bug, fixed for session one. If I am right, for the work-around
try pressing F1 help and ESC and move the cursor. Or go to MORE and then
back.

For those that don't know the history of Software Carousel and our
(Thaddeus Computing) involvement, here goes. About two years ago, the
authors of SC went out of business and no one could buy the product.
Especially with our memory upgrades, I thought SC was a great product.

I did a search on the web for the SC authors and contacted him and her.
To make a long story short, the authors made some bug fixes, and we
purchased the rights to distribute the product, but they don't support
it.  Thanks to HPHAND and this group there is excellent support
available from experienced users. I appreciate everyone's support on the
product, as it allows us to sell it and feel that our customers are
supported.

I believe you purchased it from Tom Rundel who buys SC from us.

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1999-04-16-02:30:54 A Meshar:
> 1. Can anyone provide some discussion about PERL versions? I have a PERL 4.1.9
> and another (recently announced here) version 4.0.36 (with PAL ext.)

4.1.9 was never a perl version proper, AFAIK; I suspect that was someone's
version number on a port they did, separate from the actual perl version. And
it was probably a 4.0.36 port to DOS, if I recall correctly.

Perl went through a series of major versions in the '80s, from 1.0 through
4.0, and after each major version lwall shipped patches with bugfixes or minor
feature enhancements; there were 36 patches for perl 4.0.

> Books I see are usually for Perl 5.

Yup, perl 5 has been current since the early '90s, and includes many, many
valuable additions that make it a nicer language. Problem is, nobody has ever
successfully ported it to 16-bit DOS as far as I know.

> 2. Could someone knowledgeable please provide some info on differences and
> relevance to Palmtop?

Perl5 has many many new features, the most dramatic and important would be
references. A reference is basically a typed pointer --- a pointer that knows
the type of thing it's pointing at. References are the way to properly support
complex data structures in perl. Plus scads of other cool stuff.

I'm pretty sure lexically scoped variables ("my()") were also introduced with
perl 5.

Likewise the object-oriented features (since they are based on references).

So the differences are big and important. For the most part, any perl4 code
you find or write will run fine under perl5, although it may generate some
warnings; very little perl5 code will run unchanged under perl4, the new
features are just too valuable and important.

> 3. Also, if you can, some info on implementation of Perl in the WWW
> environment. Specifically: Let's suppose I want to add some "brains" behind
> the Webpages. I understand I can write PERL programs that will be activated
> when one clicks on a link, or otherwise fetches a URL.

Yup, that's a CGI script for you. With typical web servers, you can put an
executable perl script in the .../cgi-bin/ subdirectory of the web server
heirarchy, or some other way notify the server that it's supposed to be
treated as a CGI, and write the perl (using perl5!) like

        #!/usr/bin/perl -w
        use strict;
        use CGI;
        use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser);
        my($q) = new CGI;
        $q->use_named_parameters(1);
        print   $q->header,
                $q->start_html(title=>'Hello, World!'),
                $q->start_form,
                "And your name is:",
                $q->textfield(name=>'who',default=>'nobody',size=>20),
                $q->submit,
                $q->end_form,
                $q->hr,
                "Hello there, ", $q->param('who'), "!",
                $q->end_html;

(from memory, untested).

> 4. What is the extent of the work PERL can do?

We're still trying to figure that out. So far, the answer has been "anything,
very very easily and well".

> I mean: Can it generate entire HTML docs and send them on the fly to the
> requesting user?

Yup. And it can do database work like a champ. And it can do numerical
modelling really smoothly. And it can do graphic programming well. And it can
do crypto. And it can do statistical analysis. As the ads say, "If you don't
know where you want to go, we'll make sure you get taken!". Wait, no, those
are different ads. Never mind.

> 5. Can I using Perl go to some URL on a Webpage that uses a form, enter the
> data in the form, "press" Enter, then grab the output, manipulate that output
> and include parts of it in a HTML doc created on the fly which then would be
> displayed to the original requester?

Yup. In some sense that's the complementary operation to the above example;
while the above is a CGI script, which publishes WWW content, you are now
asking about a robot script, which is a customer of WWW content. In short, a
web agent. The perl module for that is LWP, short for LibWebPerl. It's built
atop libnet, which provides the low-level protocol implementations for various
TCP/IP protocols in the client side.

> I want to keep the access to the form and the results invisible from the
> original requester, i.e. just process the stuff, and repackage it in ways
> that are more er... palatable?, readable?

Yup, that's another job that is easy to do well in perl.

> Anyone can provide info on this I'd appreciate a great deal. I am sure many of
> us here are hungry for this kind of info.

Note: none of this is at all related to this list, since all this wonderful
stuff is perl5 only, and so not available for the LX. But on your desktop
workstation you can run the latest perl, and teach it new tricks using the
Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN), available from many places
including <URL:http://perl.com/CPAN/>, <URL:http://perl.org/CPAN/>, and
<URL:http://www.cpan.org/>.

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:23:14 +0200
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Hi all,
I want to extract (save) part of a Lotus worksheet via a macro that
uses the contents of a cell as the file name (/FXFfilename).
Any idea how to accomplish this ?
Thank you
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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:31:44 -0700
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Yeah, that's one way Thaddeus is making a good buck: buying people's old
LX'es. (No blame here, more like envy! I wish people would sell me *their*
old stuff at the same price).

Second hand stores are a good place to look, and maybe even pawn shops if
you can find a place where the guy doesn't know how much the machines are
worth...

Philippe :)

> >         -----Original Message-----
> >         From:   David Lawrence SMTP:katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ
> >         Sent:   Thursday, April 15, 1999 4:46 PM
> >         To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> >         Subject:        Re: Dumpster diving...fluff
> >
> >
> >         If only there was a way to find out about all the unused,
> >         unwanted stuff out there, I heard a depressing story about a guy
> >         who bought a 200LX from somebody who didn't want it, for
> >         $100.00!!! There are probably machines out there lying dis-used
> >         in draws just pining for a loving owner...
> >
> >
> >         David Lawrence
> >         katana@clear.net.nz
> >
> >         Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive
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Good luck. Hp didn't have it when I called a couple years ago. Don't think
it's even *listed* as a separate part. Try getting a broken 95LX or 100LX on
the net and use that latch. In my case, I just left the LX like that and
just started being a bit more careful about throwing the machine it around.
In a bind, a lobster elastic will keep it closed pretty well.

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
From: David Hart <hart@CATHOLIC.ORG>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 11:21 PM
Subject: My HP LX 200 latch has broken


> My latch on my HP 200LX has broken. I pulled out my 200 from my briefcase
and the latch was completely missing. Any ideas on where I could get a new
one and is it easy to replace?
>
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Someone replied to me a little while ago when I asked the same question.
They mentioned that a program called Transfile can do basic file transfer...

Philippe :)

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From: Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 7:56 AM
Subject: Fwd: LX -> NT backup


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Date- Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:33:49 -0400
From: peter.wuensche@avl.com (Peter Wuensche)

Subscriber Comments: HELP! I own a 200 LX for some years now, and
always backed up my data using that connectivity kit to a 486 desktop.
Now with my Windows NT, this doesn't seem to work anymore, would you
know how to? I am getting nervous about loosing data without backup.
Your reply is much appreciated :-) Peter


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Off the cuff here (didn't try it as part of a full macro yet)...

<insert usual macro stuff here>
'/fxv{ESC}test.dat~{BS}{LEFT 4}{{DOWN 2}.{RIGHT 2}{DOWN 3}~

This line was created using the Learn feature.  The {LEFT x}{DOWN x} stuff
selected the range to save.  If you want your macro to change the name of
the file, put the name on another line like this:

'/txv{ESC}
test.dat
~{BS}{LEFT 4}{{DOWN 2}.{RIGHT 2}{DOWN 3}~

Then have another part of your macro modify that cell.  Be sure to have the
macro {CALC} the sheet before it reads the filename cell.  If you want to
specify the range as part of the macro, use the same technique and separate
out the stuff that defines the range and have your macro "create" the range
on the fly.

Good luck!

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Winfried Zettelmeyer SMTP:wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES
>
> Hi all,
> I want to extract (save) part of a Lotus worksheet via a macro that
> uses the contents of a cell as the file name (/FXFfilename).
> Any idea how to accomplish this ?
> Thank you
> Winfried
>

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Replacing the latch is actually easy... getting one is not.
Considering that your latch is completely missing, my suggestion as how to
repair and replace the latch won't be of any use to you, but here goes
anyway.

To remove a latch (broken or not):
 The display case is two parts (plus other parts, not involved in this deal
here).
 At the point where the latch "lives" you must pry the two case halves
apart, just enough to allow the latch to be removed.  There is no need to
remove the frame from around the display as there are no screws in the area
of the latch.  Enough space can be made this way to remove the latch.
 Inside the case there will be one or two little "golf clubs" of plastic.
These are the "springs" that once made the latch function.  Collect these
two parts.
 Carefully examine the two parts (one if you are lucky and your latch still
has a spring attached) and observe the orientation of attachment for
re-attaching the plastic parts.
 Difficult part... build a jig to hold the parts in the correct orientation.
I used a small piece of wood and my motor-tool to do this.
 Once you have this done go get some solvent-based glue for model building.
NO STUPID SUPER GLUE!!! and the glue must be a liquid, not a "paste", it
must run-like-water.
 Put your latch and it's parts into your jig and using a very fine paint
brush, place the tiniest amount of glue possible onto the cracked parts.
 Wait at least two days before trying to remove the parts from the jig.
This is a spring you are fixing here, give it all the chances you can to
work.
 To replace the repaired latch, use the case opening trick (above) and
carefully work the latch back into place.  Don't break anything.

Good luch!

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Hart <hart@CATHOLIC.ORG>
>
>  My latch on my HP 200LX has broken. I pulled out my 200 from my briefcase
> and the latch was completely missing. Any ideas on where I could get a new
> one and is it easy to replace?
>

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<<My latch on my HP 200LX has broken. I pulled out my 200 from my
briefcase and the latch was completely missing. Any ideas on where I
could get a new one and is it easy to replace?>>

I am almost embarrassed to mention this, but you can sent it to us. We
have a blanket repair fee for $125. Our problem is we still can't
directly buy parts at will (we have been able to buy some parts from HP
twice -- but don't know if that will reoccur.)  Therefore, we may have
to scrounge a latch from a broken unit (or from our HP parts) in the
same way we get a screen. Since we don't know if we can get more, we
have to be very conservative.

In the future we hope to be able to buy parts from HP.  At that time we
may change our policy and let people purchase them directly, we'll have
to see, if we can make it work for all concerned.

Hal Goldstein
President
Thaddeus Computing
Publisher
HANDHELD PC MAGAZINE FOR USERS OF WINDOWS CE, THE HP PALMTOP PAPER
110 North Court St.
Fairfield, IA 52556
800 373 6114 or 515 472 6330
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On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> A mail server for the 200LX would be fun of course (but useful?).

Isn't that what you said about Ethernet support in WWW/LX?  <g>

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:00:08 -0700
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> On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:
>
> > A mail server for the 200LX would be fun of course (but useful?).
>

For that matter, the 'Velcroed Web Server' is getting *very* close to
being real...  Stay tuned.. :-)

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On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Steven Lawson wrote:

> For that matter, the 'Velcroed Web Server' is getting *very* close to
> being real...  Stay tuned.. :-)

I'd better get the digital photos of the bottom of my palmtop up, then!

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>Can the .PLs be compiled and remain as .EXEs? Anything available on the
>Palmtop? I admit I have not researched all the parameters yet...


You can start it as a bat file. Don't name it .pl . Think of it like QBasic.

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>Any Perl 5 run on the Palmtop?


Searched a lot. Didn't find it anywhere.

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Have a look to http://www.cgi-resources.com/ . There are some tutorials and
documentation stuff too.

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Subject:      Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer

> You notice there's no place to send a message to let'em know
> what a person thinks of the "offer". What is it--about a 100
> dollars is what they're giving for the DOS LX? Its worth more than
> that!!
>
> John

You are all missing the point. Someone should contact mobileplanet
and find out where all those traded in hp's are going. This might be
a source for cheap replacement 200lx's.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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re:
>You are all missing the point. Someone should contact mobileplanet
>and find out where all those traded in hp's are going. This might be
>a source for cheap replacement 200lx's.

They're going to corner the market on replacement latches ;-)  !!

--tim

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  I don't see anywhere in the offer where they're asking for the old
palmtops, just for the serial numbers.  I don't think it's actually a
"trade-in" offer....  (Although, I could be wrong...)

  Take a look at the "terms and conditions" (that just happen to be on the
HP website...)  Looks like the offer is run by HP, not MobilePlanet...
    http://www.hp.com/jornada/promotions/dos/rules.html

   ... John Stanley

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Subject: Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer


> You notice there's no place to send a message to let'em know
> what a person thinks of the "offer". What is it--about a 100
> dollars is what they're giving for the DOS LX? Its worth more than
> that!!
>
> John

You are all missing the point. Someone should contact mobileplanet
and find out where all those traded in hp's are going. This might be
a source for cheap replacement 200lx's.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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Has anybody else tried the ESC-ON display diagnostic of other PDAs?


There once was this thing from Psion
My big mistake - to buy one
   It cost lots of cash
   And looked really flash
But just couldn't get the work done


There once was this thing from 3Com
In style wars it won with aplomb
   I tried a Palm Pro
   But it had to go
No keyboard and not enough ROM  (oops I meant RAM - bloody graffiti)


There once was this thing called CE
That lots of new palmto# s 2  ,0}}

DIAGS caused an invalid page fault in
module LIMERICK32.DLL at 0137:7f7af33a.
Registers:
EAX=016f04f8 CS=0137 EIP=7f7af33a EFLGS=00010202
EBX=815b273c SS=013f ESP=0065fae4 EBP=0065fcc0
ECX=00000010 DS=013f ESI=bff7ee11 FS=2a6f
EDX=815b0354 ES=013f EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 08 85 c9 8d 51 ff 89 10 74 1a e8 2f 97 ff ff
Stack dump:
0065fcc0 7f7a0000 815b0388 815b273c 00432ec8 bff7b9ce 7f7a0000 00000000
00000000 7f7a0000 815b0388 815b273c 00000000 0000034b 815b273c c64f4d18

This program has performed an illegal operation
and will be shut down.
If the problem persists, contact the program
vendor.

Warning! Main batteries low.
Replace main batteries to avoi




Isn't that supposed to rhyme or something?
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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:16:57 -0700
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Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET> writes:

> Very recent perls have got various sorts of compilers available; they don't
> apply to this question, and all of 'em need run-time support of one sort or
> another that's as heavy-weight as a full perl interpreter anyway.

Applies COMPLETELY!!! That is exactly one of the questions I asked in this
thread. Can Perl be compiled and turned into a .EXE?

  Avi M. D&A

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A Meshar wrote:
>
> Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET> writes:
>
> > Very recent perls have got various sorts of compilers available; they don't
> > apply to this question, and all of 'em need run-time support of one sort or
> > another that's as heavy-weight as a full perl interpreter anyway.
>
> Applies COMPLETELY!!! That is exactly one of the questions I asked in this
> thread. Can Perl be compiled and turned into a .EXE?
>
>   Avi M. D&A
>

No, Avi, it doesn't _really_ apply. The answer to your question may be
`Perhaps yes, but if so it requires a huge .DLL to run' My guess is for
your purposes it doesn't matter much to be `compiled to an .EXE' unless
that .EXE is `self-standing', but then what do I know...

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:39:35 +0200
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Hello everybody,
I've added an icon on the desktop on my 200LX to a program (DOS), but when
I try to launch it by pressing enter on the icon it fails. A screen that
flash by says "Failed to allocate image buffer".

If I execute from the 'filer' it works well.

The program I try to launch is a small game called Goldmine (looks a bit
like Boulderdash, just loved this game on my Atari 130 back in the 80's).
Maybe someone has tried this game an have a solution to my problem.

Any thoughts?

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:55:02 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: POST/LX ideas

Andreas Garzotto writes:
> John Musielewicz wrote:
> > > POST/LX is a mail *client*, not a *server*.
> >
> > I realize that it is but it could be used as the engine.
>
> An email server and an email client is something very different, like a
> library and a customer visiting the library is not the same and does
> very different stuff. The only common between a mail server and an
> email client (POST/LX) would be the interface to WWW/LX, and that's
> maybe 1-2% of the code.

They are diffwerant in the ways they handle mail. I am not
thinking along the lines of Mercury mail which is a full fledged
mail server but along the lines of
Pegasus which is a mail client with rudimentry list serv capabilites.
I was thinking of minor modifications to POST mainly in the
sorting and forwarding and using a front end so a person
that didn't want to use something like this wouldn't be afflicted
with the baggage. No doubt it would take some fancy programming.
Like I said donno if it would be worth the work and worthwhile
since a person can spend a couple hundred and have a full fledged
mail server. But in some situations such a program would be very
useful. The autoforwarding part, and the ability to add names to a
list would be very useful. Of course one of the advantage to Post
is the small size so naturally a person wouldn't want to add much
baggage but a pocket sized list server would be quite handy. A person
could stick it on the corner of the desk. It wouldn't take any room at all
which is the main advantage. And it would be a way to put a spare 200LX to
use.

John

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Subject:      HP and the handheld market

I read somewhere that HP has about 18% of the handheld
market. The DOS LX was lumped in with the CE units. Does
anyone know if this is an actual figure and what the
breakdown to individual units would be?

John

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:57:46 +0000
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              OlasH@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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I am having a problem with using HV to read htm files using HV part of
WWW/LX Plus. I have WWW/LX on an EXP modem/flash card (I refer to this
as my F Card) and it functions properly. I have the same program copied
over to another flashcard that I normally keep in the slot (I refer to
this as my A Card). I can also use my external modem with my A Card.

My problem is that I can not use use HV as an offline reader on my A
Card with the 200LX booted up with the A Card in it. I can use POST and
WWW on my A Card. When I try to go to HV via Filer highliting HV.exe,
&.., menu,a,t,F10, or from appl mgr, the results are the same. I only
get the bar at the top "starting up". I must do a soft reboot to get
out of DOS. My hv.cfg file is the same as my F Card except for my drive
designation. I have repeatly checked this. I copied my entire WWW/LX
dirctory and files from F to A to setup my A Card, with changes in my
*.cfg files. If I booted up the 200LX with the F Card in it and swap
cards without rebooting I do NOT have this problem.

I have my F Card autexec.bat and config.sys on C drive and my A Card
autoexec.bat and config.sys on the A Card. Renaming F Card auto
exec.bat and config.sys does not help. What am I not aware of ??.  I
triple checked my HV.CFG file for the A Card and all references are
for the A Drive, non refer to the F Drive. My A Card autoexec.bat and
config.sys follow.

Autoexec file:

  @echo off
  Rem Set prompt, path, and select C drive.
  prompt $p$g
  path c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;a:\HV2;a:\bin\pkware;a:\PE;c:\util;a:\bin;a:\=
wp51;
    (this is the above line continued) a:\powerc;a:\pctrace
  c:
  Rem assign e:=3Da:
  Rem Serctl /w
  Mode com1:9600,n,8,1,p
  Mode LPT1:=3Dcom1:
  set WP=3D/mono
  set PCO.cfg=3DA:\BIN\outline
  set pkzip.cfg=3Da:\bin\pkware
  c:\util\abclx\abctsr.com
  c:\util\quick\quick.com /3 /l6 /m3 /r2000
  a:\pe\nofiddle.com
  Rem d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1
  100

Config file:

  buffers=3D30
  files=3D50
  lastdrive=3DJ
  shell=3Dd:\dos\command.com /p d:\dos

This is my f Card Files
Autoexec:

  @echo off
  Rem Set prompt, path, and select C drive.
  prompt $p$g
  path c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;f:\HV2;f:\BIN;f:\bin\pkware;f:\PE;c:\util
  c:
  Rem assign e:=3Da:
  set pkzip.cfg=3Df:\bin\pkware
  c:\util\abclx\abctsr.com
  c:\util\quick\quick.com /3 /l6 /m3 /r2000
  f:\PE\nofiddle.com
  d:\bin\cic100.exe /gen 1
  100

Config flie:

  buffers=3D30
  files=3D50
  lastdrive=3DJ
  shell=3Dd:\dos\command.com /p d:\dos
  device=3Da:\lxmdrv.sys


Thanks,
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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:59:02 -0500
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Musielewicz <a123456@bitstream.net>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 7:58 PM
Subject: HP and the handheld market


>I read somewhere that HP has about 18% of the handheld
>market. The DOS LX was lumped in with the CE units. Does
>anyone know if this is an actual figure and what the
>breakdown to individual units would be?

John,

From what ive heard 3Com has approximately 75% of the market with its
PalmOS systems, leaving the other 25% for Psion, HP, and all the WinCE
manufacturers out there.  With this in mind I think 18% for HP itself is a
bit
high. Your mileage may vary. :)

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

>
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Are you talking units or $value?

Dan Ridenhour wrote:
>
> >From what ive heard 3Com has approximately 75% of the market with its
> PalmOS systems, leaving the other 25% for Psion, HP, and all the WinCE
> manufacturers out there.  With this in mind I think 18% for HP itself is a
> bit
> high. Your mileage may vary. :)
>
> Dan
> driden@stlnet.com

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:09:49 +0200
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Subject:      Re: LX servers (was Re: POST/LX ideas)

Steven Lawson writes:
> > On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:
> >
> > > A mail server for the 200LX would be fun of course (but useful?).
> >
>
> For that matter, the 'Velcroed Web Server' is getting *very* close to
> being real...  Stay tuned.. :-)

What is the "Velcroed Web Server"? I remember a few months agao you
said you were working on something for the 200LX. Is this it?

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:04:02 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Problem launching application

Try putting a | at end of the path.


Mattias Bjorklund writes:
> Hello everybody,
> I've added an icon on the desktop on my 200LX to a program (DOS), but when
> I try to launch it by pressing enter on the icon it fails. A screen that
> flash by says "Failed to allocate image buffer".
>
> If I execute from the 'filer' it works well.
>
> The program I try to launch is a small game called Goldmine (looks a bit
> like Boulderdash, just loved this game on my Atari 130 back in the 80's).
> Maybe someone has tried this game an have a solution to my problem.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
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Subject:      Re: HP and the handheld market

>
> >I read somewhere that HP has about 18% of the handheld
> >market. The DOS LX was lumped in with the CE units. Does
> >anyone know if this is an actual figure and what the
> >breakdown to individual units would be?
>
>
> >From what ive heard 3Com has approximately 75% of the market with its
> PalmOS systems, leaving the other 25% for Psion, HP, and all the WinCE
> manufacturers out there.  With this in mind I think 18% for HP itself is a
> bit
> high. Your mileage may vary. :)
>

Hmm, 25%.. then the Jordan thingy post isn't surprizing. I'd be
willing to bet the 200LX is still quite a big chunk in HP's
market share. Probably closely followed or following machines like the
620LX. If they can swing a lot of the 200LX users over they'd probably
up theri share quite a bit.

John

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:59:16 -0500
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I need a vanilla compact flash to pcmcia adapter.
Would some kind soul with an extra one be willing
to send me one for a check for $8?

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:47:41 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: HP and the handheld market

> Hmm, 25%.. then the Jordan thingy post isn't surprizing. I'd be
> willing to bet the 200LX is still quite a big chunk in HP's
> market share. Probably closely followed or following machines like the
> 620LX. If they can swing a lot of the 200LX users over they'd probably
> up theri share quite a bit.
>
> John

Lets see HP currently has 3 or 4 CE units being prominently displayed
in computer and electronic stores all over the country. They also
have 1 hp200lx that until recently wasn't even being displayed
anywhere on the web that I have ever seen. So given the above do you
really think that the 200lx is still a "quite big chunk" of their
sales? I certainly don't. They must still sell enough to make it
profitable to keep producing them but even that will probably stop
before too long.

Pete

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:03:05 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:44:09 -0400 (EDT)

Hello again fellow Findermaniacs-

Just found out another very cool feature of the new Finder.   Among the
various x-file (sorry, couldn't resist) types, (.xfe .xfd .xfm etc) you
can use .xfk to launch a built-in app or .exm that's registered in
AppMgr or MoreEXM by naming the file using the hex code of the hotkey.
For example Appt is b000 hex, so the file is named b000.xfk  -  The
cool part is the file needs NO CONTENTS!  You use a file of 0 bytes!

The other 0 byte file option is .xfl  You name this one with the file
name (without extension) of an EXM   For example you can launch lftree
from lftree.xfl

Later

-Peniel
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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:14:43 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: HP and the handheld market
Comments: To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

Peter W. Borders writes:
> > Hmm, 25%.. then the Jordan thingy post isn't surprizing. I'd be
> > willing to bet the 200LX is still quite a big chunk in HP's
> > market share. Probably closely followed or following machines like the
> > 620LX. If they can swing a lot of the 200LX users over they'd probably
> > up theri share quite a bit.
> >
> > John
>
> Lets see HP currently has 3 or 4 CE units being prominently displayed
> in computer and electronic stores all over the country. They also
> have 1 hp200lx that until recently wasn't even being displayed
> anywhere on the web that I have ever seen. So given the above do you
> really think that the 200lx is still a "quite big chunk" of their
> sales? I certainly don't. They must still sell enough to make it
> profitable to keep producing them but even that will probably stop
> before too long.

Umm, good question. HP has changed over to CE completely. But the
only HP CE units availible in the handheld form are the Journada 420
and the 360LX (do they still make the 360?). These are the direct
compeditor to the 200LX. In my narrow world view, what I see, since
I don't have access to marketing figures, I see 200LX's being bought.
People always look at the CE units and oh and awe, but usually
they don't buy them for some reason, usually because of the size
battery life and availibility of programs. For example, the last people
I knew of that made a choice bought 200. They also bought a rex.
Smart people and no influence from me!<g>
So while HP may be advertising the stuff out of their handhelds and its
what the stores are buying it doesn't make me think its what people
are buying. Do you think because the only computers which are advertised
and sold in stores are pentium II's and III's that's what everybody buys
when they go looking for a computer?

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:28:57 -0700
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Comments: To: "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us>
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On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> Lets see HP currently has 3 or 4 CE units being prominently displayed
> in computer and electronic stores all over the country.

My local OfficeMax, which is our only real brainless megastore in
Casper, carries no HP palmtops at all.  They have, if I recall correctly,
just a single-width display advertising a Psion 5, a Casseopeia, and I
believe a few non-CE Sharps.  Basically, you won't find HP units in stores
because the total palmtop market is still pretty small.  It's not profitable
to sell them any way but through mailorder or the Internet.

> They also
> have 1 hp200lx that until recently wasn't even being displayed
> anywhere on the web that I have ever seen. So given the above do you
> really think that the 200lx is still a "quite big chunk" of their
> sales? I certainly don't. They must still sell enough to make it
> profitable to keep producing them but even that will probably stop
> before too long.

In the sense that, from what I hear, 200LX sales have consistently
outstripped all of HP's CE units in sales (and usefulness :), even in 1998.
The 200LX survives because it doesn't need marketing to sell.  Only people
that need it will ever buy one; they're a specialty DOS machine, and the
general public is helplessly stuck on point-and-grunt anyway.  A 200LX is an
old dog for technology, but because of its specialty niche market it sells
in spite of the parent company's apparent lack of interest in the product.

> Pete
>
> Pete
>
> Peter W. Borders

Um..

Ian Butler <ian@hplx.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.,
Peace love sunshine Volkswagen

Adapt.  Enjoy.  Survive.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:12:54 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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I have found this program the most aesthetically pleasing and useful among
the various clock programs for the 200LX. Excellent software, Jorgen, and
many thanks.

In addition to the daily alarm I also use it to 'time out' meetings that
would otherwise drag on.

I have one query and one suggestion -

Query: Is it possible to change the default alarm sound? I tried renaming
some other file as ALARM.SND in c:\_dat but it did not help. I would like
to use this alarm as a morning wake up call and would like to start the day
with a more soothing sound!

Suggestion: Multiple alarms would help (like the Timex Datalink watch, for
instance), preferably with their own sounds!


brgds

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:29:47 -0400
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              "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: HP and the handheld market
MIME-Version: 666

hmm, now that i think about it i guess that the reason i feel compelled to
write such arrogant and srcastic messages like this is because im trying to
makeup for the tiny size of my cock, please forgive me and i will watch my
sarcasm in the future.  my girlfriend dumped me last week and said i am a
rude arrogant bastard and i still feel bad so i took it out on you, I know
im a piece of dog shit I'm very sorry please please please forgive me, i
relly dont know what comes over me sometimes!!!!!  I think the chicks will
like me more if i show how domiant i am becuase i can make fun of other
plamtop users even thow when they meet me in real life im a fat and ugly
geek with bo that smells like a piece of hambuger cooking.  Please forgive
me, People have told me im a fuckhead before, but i only decided it was
true when the voices told me.  im sorry.



Peter W. Borders wrote:
>
> > Hmm, 25%.. then the Jordan thingy post isn't surprizing. I'd be
> > willing to bet the 200LX is still quite a big chunk in HP's
> > market share. Probably closely followed or following machines like the
> > 620LX. If they can swing a lot of the 200LX users over they'd probably
> > up theri share quite a bit.
> >
> > John
>
> Lets see HP currently has 3 or 4 CE units being prominently displayed
> in computer and electronic stores all over the country. They also
> have 1 hp200lx that until recently wasn't even being displayed
> anywhere on the web that I have ever seen. So given the above do you
> really think that the 200lx is still a "quite big chunk" of their
> sales? I certainly don't. They must still sell enough to make it
> profitable to keep producing them but even that will probably stop
> before too long.
>
> Pete
>
> Pete
>
> Peter W. Borders
>
> Network Support Technician
> Tidewater Community College
> tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
>
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Pete

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:27:15 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: HP and the handheld market

> Umm, good question. HP has changed over to CE completely. But the
> only HP CE units availible in the handheld form are the Journada 420
> and the 360LX (do they still make the 360?). These are the direct
> compeditor to the 200LX. In my narrow world view, what I see, since
> I don't have access to marketing figures, I see 200LX's being bought.
> People always look at the CE units and oh and awe, but usually
> they don't buy them for some reason, usually because of the size
> battery life and availibility of programs. For example, the last people
> I knew of that made a choice bought 200. They also bought a rex.
> Smart people and no influence from me!<g>
> So while HP may be advertising the stuff out of their handhelds and its
> what the stores are buying it doesn't make me think its what people
> are buying. Do you think because the only computers which are advertised
> and sold in stores are pentium II's and III's that's what everybody buys
> when they go looking for a computer?
>
> John

They still have the 600 line don't they, at least I have seen them
for sale.

As far as what stores carry, if they don't carry things that people
buy alot then they soon go out of business, that is a basic fact of
business. So there must be some people out there buying CE machine
from HP since there are stores carrying them and I have yet to see
one of them be dropped from store shelves. Shelf space in a retail
outlet is very har to come buy, companies fight with each other to
get a spot on a big chain store shelf since that means more sales. So
either some of the biggest electronic and computer chains in the
country are being run by idiots or CE devices are selling well enough
to maintain their shelf space.

As far as pentium II and III yes that is pretty much what the
majority of people buy RETAIL, in major chain outlets. That is not
necessarily a good thing but it is true. go to any compusa and just
watch the systems going out the door, somebody sure is buying them. I
am not saying there is not a large market in cheaper systems, mostly
mail order or fomr smaller outfits, just that there is a big market
for these higher end systems as well.

Regarding those people that you know that chose the hp200lx over CE,
where did they get the information about the 200lx? you could
probably poll 1000 people going into any large chain and few if any
would have heard about the 200lx but many would have heard about CE
machines. Also, there is always the fact that people tend to
associate with others of like intelligence and interests so it is not
unusual for someone that you know to use a 200lx, you like it don't
you and you certainly wouldn't want to hang out with those CE
cretins. :-)

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:31:11 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: HP and the handheld market

> My local OfficeMax, which is our only real brainless megastore in
> Casper, carries no HP palmtops at all.  They have, if I recall correctly,
> just a single-width display advertising a Psion 5, a Casseopeia, and I
> believe a few non-CE Sharps.  Basically, you won't find HP units in stores
> because the total palmtop market is still pretty small.  It's not profitable
> to sell them any way but through mailorder or the Internet.

Did you say you live in podunk or what? :-) I have at least 5 various
chain stores from compusa to circuit city. Most of the, including
the 3 office max stores I visit once in a while, carry several
different CE machines. I can't say who has the HP except that I
remember seeing them in Compusa. Of course the only place that ever
sold the 200lx was service merchandise and they just went out of
business.

> In the sense that, from what I hear, 200LX sales have consistently
> outstripped all of HP's CE units in sales (and usefulness :), even in 1998.
> The 200LX survives because it doesn't need marketing to sell.  Only people
> that need it will ever buy one; they're a specialty DOS machine, and the
> general public is helplessly stuck on point-and-grunt anyway.  A 200LX is an
> old dog for technology, but because of its specialty niche market it sells
> in spite of the parent company's apparent lack of interest in the product.
>

People are always saying things like that but I have never seen any
sales figures from HP to justify that position. Do you have any
ACTUAL numbers from HP about the great sales of the 200lx versis CE?

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:38:04 +0200
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Subject:      Re: HP and the handheld market

> The 200LX survives because it doesn't need marketing to sell.  Only people
> that need it will ever buy one; they're a specialty DOS machine, and the
> general public is helplessly stuck on point-and-grunt anyway.  A 200LX is an
> old dog for technology, but because of its specialty niche market it sells
> in spite of the parent company's apparent lack of interest in the product.
>

People put more research into buying handhelds too, so it doesn't seem
to matter how well advertised they are. I remember I searched for months
looking at everything that was availible. Almost didn't buy the HP
because it only had a type II slot and a 186 almost bought the 386 prolinear
instead it had a type III and 386
but it was too big and used more AA cells. If the prolinear had been just a
couple inches smaller I'd be cussing at them instead since they are no longer
in business<g>. Could've bought into CE too, but lousy battery life. Tried
PC 110 but too big and lousy battery life.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:01:00 +0200
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Subject:      Re: HP and the handheld market
Comments: To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

>
> They still have the 600 line don't they, at least I have seen them
> for sale.

I don't really consider those handhelds though, they are too big.
The same people that would probably replace a 200 with a subnotebook
are the type of peopl that buy those. If you lump those in you should
lump in the libretto, viao, and tinynote too.

>
> As far as what stores carry, if they don't carry things that people
> buy alot then they soon go out of business, that is a basic fact of
> business. So there must be some people out there buying CE machine

Of course there is the HP name behind them too<g>. I'm not saying CE
does not sell, I just wonder how much compared to the 200.

> from HP since there are stores carrying them and I have yet to see
> one of them be dropped from store shelves. Shelf space in a retail

I bought my first 200LX mail order. There was only one store that carried
them and they were expensive. This was before CE after they had been out
since the early '90's.

> outlet is very har to come buy, companies fight with each other to
> get a spot on a big chain store shelf since that means more sales. So
> either some of the biggest electronic and computer chains in the
> country are being run by idiots or CE devices are selling well enough
> to maintain their shelf space.

They could still be in the "new toy" region though. People could simply
be buying them for that. The consumer market is very flakey, they could
sell great this year then next--no sales at all, worth talking about. They
are still very new.

>
> As far as pentium II and III yes that is pretty much what the
> majority of people buy RETAIL, in major chain outlets. That is not

Umm, I better go tell the computer reseller down the block who unloads
used 386, 486, pentiums by the pallet load<g>.


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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:12:46 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: HP and the handheld market

> Umm, I better go tell the computer reseller down the block who unloads
> used 386, 486, pentiums by the pallet load<g>.
>
>
> John

Make something cheap enough and someone will buy it but that hardly
matters to retail outlets. I don't think this "reseller down the
block" is a compusa or equally large chain store.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 05:21:28 GMT
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I've posted a preliminary version of the classic game "Snake". If
anyone's interested, let me know what you think. You can get it at
http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html

--=20
Curtis Cameron
WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:29:14 +0200
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Subject:      Re: HP and the handheld market
Comments: To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

Peter W. Borders writes:
> > Umm, I better go tell the computer reseller down the block who unloads
> > used 386, 486, pentiums by the pallet load<g>.
> >
> >
> > John
>
> Make something cheap enough and someone will buy it but that hardly
> matters to retail outlets. I don't think this "reseller down the
> block" is a compusa or equally large chain store.

Just had a Computer City close down. That's a pretty large chain.
Not saying they closed down because of used dealers but you never
know!

John

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:27:08 +0000
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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Subject:      Re: LotusWorks? (Was Wanted: Alphaworks)
Comments: To: Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM>,
          Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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I have LotusWorks, complete with original disks (two 720k) and docs.

LotusWorks was unlike other "works" integrated systems in that the
components' file systems were "standardized" on the prevailing file format
at that time.  For example:

- Spreadsheet used same files as Lotus 123.
- Database used same files as dBase III Plus, Alpha/3, and Alpha/4.
- Wordprocessor could save to ASCII.

According to the docs, you could use two Commumications and nine Words,
Spreadsheet, or Database services (windows or files) simultaneously.

I'd consider selling it.

Please send offers off list to weather@exis.net.

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At 12:27 PM 4/14/99 -0500, Terry Owen wrote:
>Following this lead, I found that AlphaWorks became LotusWorks and is
>now discontinued according to the Lotus website.  Anyone have a copy of
>LotusWorks they want to unload?
>
>Terry
>towen@quintrex.com
>owen6511@earthlink.net

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 01:33:28 +0200
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Subject:      Re: LotusWorks? (Was Wanted: Alphaworks)

What is the database like? Is it anything like the HP System Manager
database?

Don E. Weatherly writes:
> I have LotusWorks, complete with original disks (two 720k) and docs.
>
> LotusWorks was unlike other "works" integrated systems in that the
> components' file systems were "standardized" on the prevailing file format
> at that time.  For example:
>
> - Spreadsheet used same files as Lotus 123.
> - Database used same files as dBase III Plus, Alpha/3, and Alpha/4.
> - Wordprocessor could save to ASCII.
>
> According to the docs, you could use two Commumications and nine Words,
> Spreadsheet, or Database services (windows or files) simultaneously.
>
> I'd consider selling it.
>
> Please send offers off list to weather@exis.net.
>
> ==========================================================
> At 12:27 PM 4/14/99 -0500, Terry Owen wrote:
> >Following this lead, I found that AlphaWorks became LotusWorks and is
> >now discontinued according to the Lotus website.  Anyone have a copy of
> >LotusWorks they want to unload?
> >
> >Terry
> >towen@quintrex.com
> >owen6511@earthlink.net
>
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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:59:05 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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John Musielewicz wrote:
> I was thinking of minor modifications to POST mainly in the
> sorting and forwarding and using a front end so a person
> that didn't want to use something like this wouldn't be afflicted
> with the baggage.

If you want a "poor man's list server", just add an alias to
/etc/aliases on a UNIX server that is on the net and add all addresses.

The palmtop is usually offline, so the distribution of the messages
would only happen when you go online, and even then you would have to
go online twice before the messages are really forwarded.

Do you really believe that would be useful?

Adding addresses to a list can be done by pressing "a". If you set up
a section in POST.CFG like:

ADDRESSES
Normal=POST.ADR
My_List=LIST1.ADR

POST/LX will ask you when pressin "a" to which file the address should
be added. You can then easily edit that list by pressing Ctrl-L.
Posting to that list works by using "FILE:LIST1.ADR" as an address.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:03:19 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Subject:      Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions
Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@ftel.net>
In-Reply-To:  <199904170016.RAA20636@ftel.net>; from A Meshar on Fri, Apr 16,
              1999 at 05:16:57PM -0700
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1999-04-17-00:16:57 A Meshar:
> Bennett Todd:
> > Very recent perls have got various sorts of compilers available; they don't
> > apply to this question, and all of 'em need run-time support of one sort or
> > another that's as heavy-weight as a full perl interpreter anyway.
>
> Applies COMPLETELY!!! That is exactly one of the questions I asked in this
> thread. Can Perl be compiled and turned into a .EXE?

No, they don't apply; recent perls aren't available to run under DOS, so
whatever compiler support they may have is not available for trying to produce
DOS executables.

I suppose you could try and use the compile-to-C version as a cross-compiler,
but I bet that wouldn't get you far, since the run-time required to hold up a
perl executable is pretty much a whole perl.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:08:50 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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David,

> No, Avi, it doesn't _really_ apply. The answer to your question may be
> `Perhaps yes, but if so it requires a huge .DLL to run' My guess is for
> your purposes it doesn't matter much to be `compiled to an .EXE' unless
> that .EXE is `self-standing', but then what do I know...

Well, after all the encouragements I get, I also had another idea which would
be easily implemented using Perl. However! I want the distributed program to
be an executable file, not a .PL that can be changed - that would create havoc
in my plan. So I think it is a very relevant question: Is it possible to
create executables from Perl? Is it possible to do it on Palmtops with Perl4
or Perl5?

I am guess you guys think it is not relevant because it cannot be done on the
palmtop, but that is just an answer for now, perhaps in the future there will
be a Perl v5 compilable and convertible to an executable. I dunno...

Also, if Perl is so good (and it strikes me like a very flexible language!)
then we should be able to use it in multiple environments on a server site, as
well as a palmtop. For security purposes it would be nice to have it in an
executable form on the server side. For similar reasons it would be nice to
have it as an .exe on the palmtop too.

Anyway, this is how I am thinking. Am I missing something big that I just have
not seen?

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:08:54 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: POST/LX ideas
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John, I am missing something still, and you told me I do and then you repeated
the idea of turning Post/LX into a list server. That did not help me I am
afraid.

I don't know anything about Pegasus, so that is no help to me.

Let's assume I am a total novice and you are trying to explain this to me. I
want to know how you plan to implement a "server" on a client program.

Let me see: Do yuo mean that someone sends an email to me and I then forward
it to an whole list?

That exists today, now, in Post/LX. Simply forward the message you receive to
anyone you want, including a list.

Adding someone to the mailing list and removing a person from the list is
about as simple as opening a text file in Memo, finding the entry to remove
and deleting the line, or just adding the new email to the list - then save
the file.

You want to automate it? Not in Post/LX - just use a simple batch program for
that, c'mon!!!

You want to make the forwarding of the message automatic? That can also be
easily done with a macro in Post/LX. Not worth adding code _to_ the program to
do this...

Maybe Andreas thinks differently, but I think the usage of this feature is so
minor that it is just not worth adding the code, ESPECIALLY since all this can
be done with simple macros today with the existing product.

Did I get what you intended this time? I am curious because it sounds
intriguing until you look at it close up and then it stopped making sense to
me. But as I said, perhaps there is more to your ide than I see so far.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:32:57 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
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From:         Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
Subject:      Re: LOTUS 123 question
Comments: To: Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Phil,
thanks for the time you spent with my question. Unfortunately I cannot
try your formula until I get my 200LX back from repair at Thaddeus.
I think your proposal is interesting and should work, I had not thought
of this possibility.

However, what I was aiming at originally and still am is to substitute
the {?} prompt in
fxf{?}~a1..n60~
to input the file name by hand (a1..n60 being the range to extract)
by the *reference* to a cell, containing the file name, *outside* the =
string of
makro commands. Your formula constitutes a workaround that would require
a rearrangement of all makros (about 50 horizontal lines of them),
squeezed into the free spaces of a very complex worksheet, which I
would like to avoid. Also, in the data input stage, when the file name
is defined, I would have to jump to a cell very remote from the main
data area (a1..n60).

I hope to get my machine back in the next few days and would like, if
you agree, to follow up on this.
Thanks a lot !
Winfried


> Off the cuff here (didn't try it as part of a full macro yet)...
> <insert usual macro stuff here>
> '/fxv{ESC}test.dat~{BS}{LEFT 4}{{DOWN 2}.{RIGHT 2}{DOWN 3}~
>
> This line was created using the Learn feature.  The {LEFT x}{DOWN x} =
stuff
> selected the range to save.  If you want your macro to change the name =
of
> the file, put the name on another line like this:
>
> '/txv{ESC}
> test.dat
> ~{BS}{LEFT 4}{{DOWN 2}.{RIGHT 2}{DOWN 3}~
>
> Then have another part of your macro modify that cell.  Be sure to have =
the
> macro {CALC} the sheet before it reads the filename cell.  If you want =
to
> specify the range as part of the macro, use the same technique and =
separate
> out the stuff that defines the range and have your macro "create" the =
range
> on the fly.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Phil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Winfried Zettelmeyer SMTP:wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I want to extract (save) part of a Lotus worksheet via a macro that
> > uses the contents of a cell as the file name (/FXFfilename).
> > Any idea how to accomplish this ?
> > Thank you
> > Winfried
> >
>
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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:34:07 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:31:59 0, Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@mail.te=
lepac.pt> wrote:

> Has anyone ever tried to launch WWW/LX or AcCis from X-Finder?
> If so can you share your configuration?
>
> TIA
>
> Antonio

Just finished installing POST/LX under X-Finder on the TaskBar and it
runs just fine. 362KB of memory is available before I start POST/LX and
239KB was available after I start POST/LX. The big test was to be able
to open another file while composing this message with my editor
(PalEdit). (:-)

BTW: This message was composed and post under X-Finder.


Regards,

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:34:10 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:29:08 -0500, Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:31:59 0, Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@mail.=
telepac.pt> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone ever tried to launch WWW/LX or AcCis from X-Finder?
> > If so can you share your configuration?
>
> You can go to the WWW.bat (I love the bat icon) and hit enter then type =
-d
> !post and it will launch, but there's not enough memory to run my =
external
> editor.

It works just fine for me running POST/LX from the following batch
file.

c:\_dat\maxdos.com www -d "!POST"


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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:40:40 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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Subject:      Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions
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On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> David,
>
> > No, Avi, it doesn't _really_ apply. The answer to your question may be
> > `Perhaps yes, but if so it requires a huge .DLL to run' My guess is for
> > your purposes it doesn't matter much to be `compiled to an .EXE' unless
> > that .EXE is `self-standing', but then what do I know...
>
> Well, after all the encouragements I get, I also had another idea which would
> be easily implemented using Perl. However! I want the distributed program to
> be an executable file, not a .PL that can be changed - that would create havoc
> in my plan. So I think it is a very relevant question: Is it possible to
> create executables from Perl? Is it possible to do it on Palmtops with Perl4
> or Perl5?

To quote the Perl FAQ:

---
How can I hide the source for my Perl program?

   Delete it. :-) Seriously, there are a number of (mostly
   unsatisfactory) solutions with varying levels of ``security''.
---

The complete answer can be found in the perl faq here:
  http://language.perl.com/newdocs/pod/perlfaq3.html

AFAIK, only few (if any at all) of the methods they suggest work with
Perl4.


Why not just release the source? everyone else does that and it certainly
doesn't create havoc...


Cheers,

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 07:23:45 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: POST/LX ideas

A Meshar writes:
> John, I am missing something still, and you told me I do and then you repeated
> the idea of turning Post/LX into a list server. That did not help me I am
> afraid.

Nah, seems like you have it just fine. I'll look at it closer and
see if it won't do it. Thanks

John

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 07:25:26 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: POST/LX ideas

>
> Do you really believe that would be useful?

I guess it would depend on the persons needs. Some people would
some people wouldn't. Thanks for the info on the rest.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:05:04 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:55:21 -0400 (EDT)

Hello again-

Oops...

In my last post about using zero-byte program launch files with
X-Finder, I forgot something.  Those of you using a copy of my .env
file will need to add these lines to the "Execute by matched extension"
section.

.xfk=09,e/=09,%x
.xfl=09,/=09,$x %x

These are in the original .env file that comes with Finder R.8 - but
aren't in the file I sent.  (That was a modified version of the .env
from the older version).

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:12:34 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Tamas Feher <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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From:         Tamas Feher <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
Subject:      Palmtop Circuit news update.

    Hello all,

There are some more news about Palmtop Circuit.
They did find the program pack both on tapes and actual
distribution diskette sets, so everything goes fine, except:

They wish to have access to 100 or 200LX palmtop (for app. one
hour) to try if rediscovered diskette sets are OK and will ins-
tall correctly on the palmtop, before selling it to the general
public. The testing will be held on 22nd of April.

(Background info: This package was developed using a HP95LX,
owned by the program author; HP100LX specific adaptation was
done on loan unit, they borrowed from HP Hungary for 3 months.
So they no longer have access to a HP DOS palmtop. And they
have not sold the software during the last 16 months. So I
think it's a good idea to check if all is well.)

They need someone to go there with a palmtop and the connec-
tivity pack; they will install it and run a few pre-prepared
circuit simulations, to see if the program still works OK.

Why I write this here? I have no LX myself, although I will
ask local LX users to help. But none of them has 2x crystal
(DS) speed upgraded LX machines or 8/32/64MB ones!

I know that T2T DS upgrades work with 99% of all programs
and other brand or homemade speed upgrades work with >= 90%;
however they cannot guarantee, that Palmtop Circuit will run
with DS, unless someone with a doublespeed, memory upgraded LX
comes to the rescue to help test it. I'll try to locate a proud
speed-boosted LX owner in the vicinity to volunteer.

You'll be able to buy by faxing the credit card number to them,
seems like this would be the preferred method of most of those,
who gave me feedback. I see, some wish to have access to review
from reliable sources, on how good is it; before buying.

I will ask the Palmtop Circuit developer, if he has a copy of
the palmtop newspaper issue, which once reviewed the software.
Then I can scan/OCR/post it, I hope.

            Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:34:49 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Palmtop Circuit news update.

Does the program require libraires like pspice does?
Do you know if the manual will explain how to build them
if needed?

John

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:43:26 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Palmtop Circuit news update.

> They wish to have access to 100 or 200LX palmtop (for app. one
> hour) to try if rediscovered diskette sets are OK and will ins-
> tall correctly on the palmtop, before selling it to the general
> public. The testing will be held on 22nd of April.

Why not see if they won't email a copy to Thaddeus? They would be able
to run tests on both double speeds and single and could most likely
give a good review of the software.

John

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:57:12 -0400
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              aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU>
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Recently I was install Jkit (the Japanese environment) and I have a problem
when it tried to create EMS. That problem has been resolved however, now I
lost the ability to set passwords. I tried reinitializing my palmtop and also
took the batteries out over night. I can enter a password and confirm it but
when I shut off and turn on my palmtop there is no password protection. I also
seem to have lost the hidden alarm file on my C drive also. My C drive is an
original 4 meg HP drive. I'd appreciate any ideas.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:43:56 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Password Problem

You probably have something screwed in the ram. have you tried
going into diagnostics on+esc and doing the ram test?


aguze118 writes:
> Recently I was install Jkit (the Japanese environment) and I have a problem
> when it tried to create EMS. That problem has been resolved however, now I
> lost the ability to set passwords. I tried reinitializing my palmtop and also
> took the batteries out over night. I can enter a password and confirm it but
> when I shut off and turn on my palmtop there is no password protection. I also
> seem to have lost the hidden alarm file on my C drive also. My C drive is an
> original 4 meg HP drive. I'd appreciate any ideas.
> TIA
> Tony Guzewicz
>
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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:20:41 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Hi Andreas & All!

     Since there seem to be POST/LX ideas being suggested, I'd thought
I'd chime in with a suggested HV improvment...Tables

     Is it possible to render tables in a more readable format?

My $.02

Cheers,

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Is the list down, or is it just me?

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:39:12 -0700
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On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote:

> Is the list down, or is it just me?

Never mind... I just answered my own question.  Something's wrong with the
/var partition on the hplx.net machine.  It will be down for a few hours
while I reinstall Linux.  Sorry for the inconvenience, everybody...

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Something I feel that should be implimented is email syncing, something like the 3Com
Palm. Sync to the desktop email program, download unread mails, reply and send
selected or all replies via 3Com Palm modem, upload the replies to be archived in the
PC and any unsent replies to the desktop email program to upload.

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My machine is back up after a pretty harrowing reinstall of Linux.  And
with the same IP address I had before I shut it down... talk about luck!

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:12:25 -0500
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On Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:34:07 -0700, Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> Just finished installing POST/LX under X-Finder on the TaskBar and it

How? :)

73 Jeff

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:43:01 -0700
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Bennett:

> No, they don't apply; recent perls aren't available to run under DOS, so
> whatever compiler support they may have is not available for trying to produce
> DOS executables.

Ok, so the question was reasonable, but the answer is that there is no such
tools available. Yuck...

> I suppose you could try and use the compile-to-C version as a cross-compiler,
> but I bet that wouldn't get you far, since the run-time required to hold up a
> perl executable is pretty much a whole perl.

Too many cooks in the soup, too! Makes a great medium for bugs to fester in...

  Avi M. D&A

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Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Hi Al:

>      Since there seem to be POST/LX ideas being suggested, I'd thought
> I'd chime in with a suggested HV improvment...Tables
>
>      Is it possible to render tables in a more readable format?

I am not sure Andreas will post what I am going to say here himself... Here
goes:

There is no chance for any development in HV. Significant bugs will be fixed.
Aside from that there is not room for features, no room for improvements, no
room to make it behave differently.

It won't happen. Andreas can give much more technical details, but let me say
this: The program is about maxed out in terms of code. If we add one more
thing, and its memory requirements go right through the roof. That will make
it impossible to run inside System Manager, and perhaps not even on the
palmtop.

So anyway, I am echoing what Andreas has told us many many times, it just
won't happen. I am sorry.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:13:35 -0700
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Bennett:

> No, they don't apply; recent perls aren't available to run under DOS, so
> whatever compiler support they may have is not available for trying to produce
> DOS executables.
>
> I suppose you could try and use the compile-to-C version as a cross-compiler,
> but I bet that wouldn't get you far, since the run-time required to hold up a
> perl executable is pretty much a whole perl.

I went looking for a Perl5 port and of course, as you said, none out there...
How disappointing! :( Well, at least Perl4 is available, so much of the work
can be roughed out on palmtops then moved to the server and tested. Sure would
be nice to use some of the more advanced aspects of Perl5 - I did some reading
and the differences in "tools" (i.e. what can be done) are quite considerable.

Oh well, I guess you can't win them all!

I really appreciate the very knowledgeable assistance you provided, and that
of several others here. This thread has given me a shortcircuit in a way, sort
of like instant learning! :) It is amazing how fast learning here can be vs.
plodding theough manuals and lit. After reading what you wrote and others, the
bookreading is much more focused and more directed and a heck of a lof more
productive! Good job, guys!!! Thank you all...

(Not that I am done yet, I'll be back with more :) ...)

  Avi M. D&A



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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:13:39 -0700
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Laust,

Thanks for chiming in on the Perl stuff...

> > Well, after all the encouragements I get, I also had another idea which would
> > be easily implemented using Perl. However! I want the distributed program to
> > be an executable file, not a .PL that can be changed - that would create havoc
> > in my plan. So I think it is a very relevant question: Is it possible to
> > create executables from Perl? Is it possible to do it on Palmtops with Perl4
> > or Perl5?
>
> To quote the Perl FAQ:
>
> ---
> How can I hide the source for my Perl program?
>
>    Delete it. :-) Seriously, there are a number of (mostly
>    unsatisfactory) solutions with varying levels of ``security''.
> ---

I think I saw that. It seemed like an asnwer to a different question.

> The complete answer can be found in the perl faq here:
>   http://language.perl.com/newdocs/pod/perlfaq3.html

Yep! Been there, spent lots of time there...

> Why not just release the source? everyone else does that and it certainly
> doesn't create havoc...

Let's see: On the Webserver I have a database with all orders, including
credit cards, especially one from Laust :) ... I release the Perl script for
all to see exactly how to reach the database, passwords and all... Nah! I
think not a good idea, and I think it _will_ create havoc.

Another issue: The app I have in mind is to be distributed to people who can
easily hack their way into things if the know the doors. When I jeopardize
_other people's_ property by doing this, I think it creates havoc, and I won't
do it.

If it just an interesting app for the palmtop, sure, why not. Unless it has a
significant commercial value, and there is technology in it that I cannot
release. Example: WWW/LX has some technology in it which, if released, will
make our sales go to ZERO! I think that would be stupid for us to release.
Aside from that, the idea of open source is very good and very attractive to
me, but a blanket application makes no sense.

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Date:         Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:31:23 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Stan wrote:

>Gosh, I wish this utility would go away - it is not what it
>seems to be.
>
>TURBOCPU does NOT speed up the CPU in any way whatsoever.  All
>it does is shorten some of the wait states that are built into
>the system for accessing the internal RAM and ROM and some of
>the I/O devices.
>
>Those faster CPU speeds you are seeing reported by the
>benchmarks are false, inflated readings because of the wait
>state modifications.  It is just snake oil.

Hi Stan & list

I understand the wait states etc and agree that no CPU speed increase
happens.  It "appears" to increase the speed.  Although the snake oil is
very apparent after real world testing.(see below)  Thanks Stan.

I used Pkzip to zip D:\dos\*.* to c: using Turbocpu and also without.

Speeds timed with a stopwatch so may be a little off yet not the 3 seconds
averaged.

With turbocpu time was 38.4 secs  without was 35.6 averages.  This was on a
vanilla 2M 200LX on batteries.

Same test on a DS8M was 19.4 secs.

The only disadvantage I have found when using this tsr is that the comm port
wont connect unless I run normcpu or remove the prog.

Is there any other negatives I have missed?

Curiously I found another glitch using Turbo..  Stopwatch ran SLOWER when
turbo installed. 30Secs RT measured 22.1 on the turboed machine.

Any comments?

TIA

Russell

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 22:32:27 -0230
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Subject:                Re: My HP LX 200 latch has broken
To:                     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> Good luck. Hp didn't have it when I called a couple years ago. Don't think
> it's even *listed* as a separate part. Try getting a broken 95LX or 100LX
> on the net and use that latch. In my case, I just left the LX like that
> and just started being a bit more careful about throwing the machine it
> around. In a bind, a lobster elastic will keep it closed pretty well.
>

What is that?  Where do you get it?

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al chin writes:
> Semper mobilis,

Does HP still keep the military supplied with 360LXs?

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Subject:      System wide password

Hello

I run HPAlarm on my Times2Tech 200LX and notice it doesn't work
when I have the System password installed. It wakes it up and
shows the password screen, briefly shows the alarm screen beeps
once then shuts off. Is there a simple way to get it working with the
password without going through a big rigamarole of doing keystuffs
or something? Thanks

John

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Date:         Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:16:07 -0500
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As many of you may know, I have been known to occasianlly work the Russian
Space Station, Mir, while mobile from my patrol car using my LX and a BayPac
modem. While I am always amazed that I can do that, it's at 1200 baud and a
'good' pass of the Mir Space Station only lasts about 10 minutes and I have
to battle with many other earthbound stations for access to it. I thought
that this was the ultimate in cool until last night.......

Mack, our friend & hero, was on a civilian ride along with me while I was on
patrol. I like to call these ride alongs 'Jeff & Mack's Excellent
Adventures' in honor of a favorite movie of mine. Well, Mack decides to tell
me about his new cellular telephone. He promptly brings it into view and I
see it's one of the new Sagem (spelling?) phones that I have seen mentioned
here on the list. He then proceeds to tell me that he can check his email
totally wireless. By now, I am thinking that I have got to see this in
action, but darn it, my dispatcher gives me a burgular alarm call that is
some distance away :( Well, while enroute to the burgular alarm, Mack goes
ahead and hooks his LX up to the phone via a custom cable that I beileve
Shier made. Here's the cool part, I think that I can claim without a doubt
that Mack is the first person to check email and news while travelling in
excess of 100 miles an hour, down the interstate on a Code 3 call in a
police car. It was definately cool!

Later in the shift, while I'm doing the 'police thing' and going from one
call to another, Mack is sitting there connected to a Linux shell account
using Pine and he could have just as easily been using Lynx or WWW/LX to
surf the web. I have got to get one of the phones! We even found a place on
the interior of the car in which he could clip the phoe to get it up and out
of the way. What truly amazed me was the fact that he was getting such a
good connection out of the little phone. We were definately in some very
rural areas, far away from major population centers, yet he maintained a
fairly solid connection.

Anyways, I just thought that this was one of the ultimate cool things I have
seen done with the LX and I'm sure it's another first for the LX.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot!!! I think Mack has now been deputized by the local
Waffle House staff.... isn't that right Mack <grin>?

73 Jeff W4JEF

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Mack, our friend & hero, was on a civilian ride along with me while I
> was on patrol. I like to call these ride alongs 'Jeff & Mack's
> Excellent Adventures' in honor of a favorite movie of mine.

Okay, that does it, I'm moving to Alabama.  Just tell me which zip code...
<g>

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Subject:      Re: New game for 100/200LX - Snake
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John L. Stanley wrote:

>  I tried the URL you gave.  Found your game page and clicked the =
"Snakes"
>link.  The AOL server told me "The requested URL was not found on this
>server.".  Could you take a shot at fixing the link and let us know when=
 its
>available?

Sorry about that. The link is now working. It's at
http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html

--=20
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Date:         Sun, 18 Apr 1999 02:38:09 -0230
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It's been mentioned a few times that other WinCE machines are
dependent on a desktop.  And the HP200LX is more like
independent computer.

Could anyone characterize what it is there that suggests this view?
Do you agree with the above?  Or is this a arbitrary impression?

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Subject:      pushkeys

There's a program in the d:\bin directory called pushkeys.com
Anyone know what it does?

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Wasn't someone on the list archiving the eddie site since it's no longer
available? I am specifically looking for a database file that was used
for logging amateur radio contacts. I believe it was call ars.gdb or
something along those lines.

73 Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
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On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Jeff wrote:

> Wasn't someone on the list archiving the eddie site since it's no
> longer available? I am specifically looking for a database file that
> was used for logging amateur radio contacts. I believe it was call
> ars.gdb or something along those lines.

Check out http://archive.hplx.net (or http://www.hplx.net/archive/ using
WWW/LX), where Bill Childers has archived a lot of palmtop-related stuff,
eddie among it.

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Andy writes:
> It's been mentioned a few times that other WinCE machines are
> dependent on a desktop.  And the HP200LX is more like
> independent computer.

Yes

>
> Could anyone characterize what it is there that suggests this view?
> Do you agree with the above?  Or is this a arbitrary impression?

Its not us! They are advertised and sold as PC companions, a supplment
to the desktop--kind of a super PDA. The 200LX was always sold as a
palmtop computer. There's no doubt they could be fine computers but
the developer are assuming that if you use one you got a desktop
with WinXX on it and that you want to use it with the daxx thing.
CE programs need to be installed first on the desktop then the desktop
installs it on the CE unit. CE programs are cut down versions of the
real thing. They assume your going to do any real work on a desktop.
Some programs will actually only store data into the storage ram. You
can't tell it where to store it (this is just silly!!<g>)
200LX programs install just like any
computer program. You can install using desktop, internet, cd-rom
or floppy drive. You don't NEED a desktop with a 200LX. The 200LX is
really a computer in a small format. It is a 186 XT that uses a memory
ramdisk as the C drive. You can run any DOS program that'll run on a XT
so you can run uncut versions of the real think. You can do all the REAL
work right on the 200LX. You can store your data where ever you please
for *any* program.

John

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Date:         Sun, 18 Apr 1999 00:14:23 -0700
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Mina Carson wrote:
>
> Yeah Chris! The readers of this list listened to ME go on and on when I made
> a similar move to Psion Series 5 and then scuttled back again to the 200lx.
> You cited some reasons I forgot that were equally potent to me, like the
> "made-up" feel of the software, its internal inconsistency, the fragility of
> the Psion case, the unreadability of the screen (so murky compared to the
> HP), my homesickness for the LX database, the truly profligate and unwieldy
> way the internal architecture stores data here and there, the comparatively
> short battery life, etc., etc. You know, I've kept my hands on the Psion,
> but if there's anyone out there who wants one (even after Chris's and my own
> and others' negative advertising), please email me. I've even got the
> blankity-blank modem, AND the Halliwell movie software (that is, a big ol'
> program that lists hundreds and hundreds of movies, actors, etc.). I'm not
> sure it's appropriate to advertise a non-HP product on this list (I can't
> remember), so I won't quote a price...but email me if you're interested.
>
> Mina Carson
> mcarson@orst.edu
>
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Mina! I have a HP95LX AND HP200LX ALSO HP320LX. TO ADD ALSO PSION
3A.WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE INPROVIMENTS THAT PSION HAS MADE (Psion 5)  how
much would let it(psion 5) go for$$$

                             Bob Elliott Jr

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Nicholas Chan wrote:
> Something I feel that should be implimented is email syncing, something like the 3Com
> Palm. Sync to the desktop email program, download unread mails, reply and send
> selected or all replies via 3Com Palm modem, upload the replies to be archived in the
> PC and any unsent replies to the desktop email program to upload.

POST/LX is a self-contained email software package and not just a
desktop-add-on. For that reason, there is no desktop counterpart that
it could sync with.

However, if you use a desktop with an operating system (and not just a
desktop crippled with Windows), you can have the kind of syncing you
want for free and the messages don't even need to be moved around for
syncing: simply install a POP3 server on the desktop. You then can
either access it using POST/LX or using your favourite desktop email
client.

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Date:         Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:28:06 +0100
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Al Kind wrote:
> Hi Andreas & All!
>
> Since there seem to be POST/LX ideas being suggested, I'd thought
> I'd chime in with a suggested HV improvment...Tables
>
> Is it possible to render tables in a more readable format?

You can turn tables on and off from the Options menu (just in case you
don't know).

Tables are often "abused" to do graphical layouting of the pages. There
is simply no chance to satisfyingly support that on the palmtop due to lack
of memory and the small screen size.

And even if that would not be the case, HV is simply not extendable
anymore. It was pushed way beyond the limit of what is feasable on the
palmtop. If I add something to the code, I must remove something else.
Also because of all the trickery with memory, the code has reached a
complexity so that if I change something, something else breaks. The
conclusion is: there will be no improvement of HV at all. At least not
until there is a 386 palmtop, in which case the memory constraints
would be removed and I might rewrite most parts of the program to make
it clean and extendable again. Sorry about that: there WON'T be ANY
improvement of HV!

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Andy wrote:
> It's been mentioned a few times that other WinCE machines are
> dependent on a desktop.  And the HP200LX is more like
> independent computer.
>
> Could anyone characterize what it is there that suggests this view?
> Do you agree with the above?  Or is this a arbitrary impression?

Using an out-of-the-box WinCE gadget, you cannot even exchange a file
with a (non-Windows) computer. You cannot even install any software,
you cannot even enter an Umlaut, you cannot read a WinWord or Excel
document. All in all: with a WinCE gadget with out a desktop, you can
do less than you could do with a $50 Casio organiser 8 years ago.

The 200LX, on the other hand, is a full computer. You can do everything
you could do on a desktop (except running Windows, of course). The only
thing I use the laptop I own is for making backups of the data on the
palmtop. All other stuff I do on the palmtop. For example WWW/LX,
POST/LX, HV and PE were completely developed (written, compiled etc) on
the palmtop. This would be impossible with a WinCE gadget. Without its
"umbilical cord" to the desktop, it is virtually useless IMO.

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Date:         Sun, 18 Apr 1999 09:51:04 +0100
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Is there a DOS database out there with the same look and feel as the LX
built in one but not limited to 16 subsets?

Reason for asking - I use the built in to do list a lot in my job! I
have it customised with a daily to do and master to do with a macro for
changing priorities and moving items between the two, even from within
notes. It works well for me but what I'd really like is a "power to do
manager", something like you get in Schedule + where you can have
unlimited categories and it gives you the ability to just show to do's
from certain categories e.g. projects, administration, computer etc and
to filter on other things like people.

I found a couple of activity managers at the Simtel site I posted
earlier but they're not "list - based" like I want.

The LX's built - in database would be PERFECT for what I want to do but
I want access to more than the available subsets. I wonder if playing
with Lotus 1-2-3 could be an answer?

Micro Logic at http://www.miclog.com advertise a neat - looking power to
do manager but it's windows based. I'm going to ask them if they have a
DOS version hanging around for sale and will keep you posted.

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Sun, 18 Apr 1999 09:40:11 +0100
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Hi,

I came across a really comprehensive site of DOS software at:-

http://serviceftp.flashnet.it/simtel.net/msdos/index-msdos-pre.html

Mainly a mixture of freeware and shareware. I hope you find some good
things there!

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Sun, 18 Apr 1999 07:26:42 -0400
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Stefan Peichl has done a great job with his LXMAP and just
recently recommended to use it in conjunction with the DOS
menu shell PWRMENU.EXE.

I followed his recommendation and moved all my DOS software
startup into PWRMENU. I have problems of getting LXMAP to
work however. The dir which holds LXMAP and all the map-files
is included in my path statement. The PWRMENU.INI holds the
whole DOS command including the path of LXMAP. If I call
PWRMENU from within the directory where I save the maps -
then it works. If I call it from outside - then no action.

Is there anything obvious which I missed.

BTW : if you call any DOS programs from within PWRMENU which
need overlay files (such as dBASE) you have to include their
directory in your path statement of autoexec.bat

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Hi LX-programmers,

The NKIT-Introduction says:

"This development kit enables programers to make EXM programs using
LHAPI (Lotus Handheld Application Program Interface) embedded in the
ROM of the HP 100/200 LX.  The following two are the target compilers
supported by this kit:

  - Turbo C (Borland International)
  - LSI C-86, trial (freeware) version (LSI Japan)

By using LHAPI, a programer can fully utilize the embedded routines,
such as menus, function keys and task switches, in the same way as
the
internal ROM applications of the 100/200 LX."

NKIT (on S.U.P.E.R.) comes with excamples; I could build and install
INFTEST.EXM using the supplied batch file
 TCCMAKE INFTEST on the palmtop.

But using the IDE (Integrated Development Environment of Borland C++
Vers 1.0 from 1990) on the palmtop, I get two Linker Errors:

 '__REALVCTVECTOR defined in module C0.ASM is duplicated in module
TCCSTART.ASM'
'_ABORT defined in module C0.ASM is duplicated in module
TCCSTART.ASM'

I've tried to set the options in the IDE to what is used with the
BAT-File, especially to the small memory model (cs).

I would like to use the IDE - any advice?

Thanks in advance.
  Hermann

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Hi Peter,
>
> Is there a DOS database out there with the same look and feel as
the LX
> built in one but not limited to 16 subsets?
>
At least you could use several GDBs, open one with DB and one with
Phone and switch between GDBs fast by using KEY200 macros with a
single key press.

Another solution may be:
You should be able to pick a subset definition from a list and
cut/paste it with a macro into a GDB-subset definition. May take a
while until the subset is displayed.

Don't know if this helps in your case.

 Hermann

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Date:         Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:49:39 -0400
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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From:         Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>>what's pushkeys (available only on US Palmtops?)
Here's the "User's Digest" version of the Pushkeys article from a 1994
issue of PTP by yours truly. =


Hopefully this will get you started.

PUSHKEYS is a TSR program that reads the contents of a .MAC file created =
in
System Macros and runs each macro. =


1. You can add keystrokes to a macro that will let you run DOS commands -=
-
something you can't ordinarily do with standard System Macros.  =

2. You can have large macros, 2,550 characters, without having to use the=

"chain" command. =


Install : Terminate All... applications. At the DOS prompt type
d:\bin\pushkeys /i and press (ENTER) and type 100 and press (ENTER) to
restart System Manager.  =


Example: =

Create a simple macro file, TEST.MAC, that runs two slightly different
versions of the DOS DIR command. In System Macro, save your current set o=
f
macros.  Press (MENU) File New to clear all the macro fields.  Move the
cursor to the Fn+F1: macro.  In the Contents field key in
{Enter}{More}{Menu}AL{Filer}{Menu} OD#100#DIR D:\/S>C:\DIR_D.TXT{Enter}
#100#DIR D:\ /S /AH >>C:\- DIR_D.TXT
{Enter}#100#EXIT{Enter}{Memo}{Menu}FOC:\ DIR_D.TXT{Enter} =

Press (F10) (MENU)
 File Save As...  C:\TEST.MAC =

Create a batch file that contains one line:  @d:\bin\pushkeys c:\test.mac=
 .
Save the file as C:\TESTPK.BAT. =

The macro above starts with an {Enter} to return to System Manager after
the batch file has been run from FILER.  It then closes all applications
and goes to DOS to run two slightly different versions of the DIR command=
. =

The directory listings are redirected and saved in a file named D_DIR.TXT=
,
which is loaded into MEMO at the end of the macro.  =

The #100# command tells PUSHKEYS to pause for 100 time units (100 * 1/18.=
2
~=3D 5 secs).  =


There's more to the article than the List would tolerate. =


Do WinCE machines have a macro capability?? An enquiring mind wants to
know?

.ed. PTP

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Date:         Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:49:43 -0400
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RE: Pegasus email as a listserv

 John Musielewicz showed me how PMail could act as a listserv. It has
filtering rules that can look for "subscribe", "unsubscribe",
"undeliverable", etc. and have the program act accordingly.  =


I thought it would be way cool to use a Palmtop to manage the Palmtop Pap=
er
Newsletter.  That's when I discovered that PMail can only send to 64
addresses at a time. Also, if I read the help file correctly, I have to
have 64 copies of the same message. For 5000+ emails, that's a lot of dis=
k
space. (John, correct me if I'm wrong.)  It would have been a
"coup-de-Net", but someone with more time on their hands might be able to=

pull it off. =


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Date:         Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:49:40 -0400
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>>Is there a DOS database out there with the same look and feel as the LX=

built in one but not limited to 16 subsets?

Other databases refer to "subsets" as "queries". You can have as many of
them as you want in dBASE III or the freeware DataPerfect.

There is a workaround for the 16 subset limit, presented originally in Th=
e
HP Palmtop Paper, database issue. Basically, cut the SSL version of the
lesser used subsets and paste them in a memo file. Reserve one subset as
"unnamed" and when you want to use the subset, copy the SSL code from the=

memo file and paste it into the general definition screen of the unnamed
subset and activate it. (I did say this was a workaround, didn't I ?)

It almost sounds like you're ready to move beyond the built in database t=
o
Lotus Agenda. It will let you slice and dice things to your heart's
content.

.ed. PTP

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I'm am going to France the end of May and would like to use
my HP to keep in touch with my family while there. Does
anyone have a suggestion for a US based ISP with access numbers in
France. Also, what type of adaptor do I need to plug my modem
into a French phone jack?

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Date:         Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:55:38 +0000
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>
> Do WinCE machines have a macro capability?? An enquiring mind wants to
> know?
>

Can't you lean across the aisle and ask? (G)

Not built-in from what I know.  bUseful now has a script language that
supposedly helps with calling cis with win-ce devices.

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> I'm am going to France the end of May and would like to use
> my HP to keep in touch with my family while there. Does
> anyone have a suggestion for a US based ISP with access numbers in
> France. Also, what type of adaptor do I need to plug my modem
> into a French phone jack?


IBM.net from what I understand has international nodes as does
Compuserve.  A friend did have problems connecting there last month.
Dialtone problems and some other quirks, I understand.

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Date:         Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:17:56 -0500
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<<In the sense that, from what I hear, 200LX sales have consistently
outstripped all of HP's CE units in sales (and usefulness :), even in
1998.>>

I wish it were true, but I am afraid CE sales far out pace 200LX sales.
Not surprising since HP in its marketing approach only wants the
marketplace to think CE.  HP says they will keep selling the 200LX as
long as there is a reasonable demand. Let's hope word of mouth and DOS
solution sales keep things going for a good while.

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<<I will ask the Palmtop Circuit developer, if he has a copy of
the palmtop newspaper issue, which once reviewed the software.
Then I can scan/OCR/post it, I hope.

            Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.>>

Tamas, I assume you are talking about our HP PALMTOP PAPER magazine.
The material in that magazine is not in the public domain. You need to
ask us for permission to post any of our copywrited material.  We almost
always say, yes, assuming proper credit is given. All past issues are on
our HP Palmtop Paper CD Infobase, so there is no need to scan and OCR
it.

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Further to Andrew Zack's question regarding internet access in France, I am
wondering about internet access in ISRAEL.  If anyone knows, please comment.

Les

Andrew Zack wrote:
>I'm am going to France the end of May and would like to use my HP to keep
in >touch with my family while there. Does anyone have a suggestion for a US
>based ISP with access numbers in France. Also, what type of adaptor do I
need >to plug my modem into a French phone jack?
>

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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> My Palmtree case did not have a belt or other loop.  Merely was intended
> to fit into my suit jacket pocket.  Mine is leather.  It is showing its
> age.

I believe I have the same case. The leather on mine is fine,
but the case is lined with a plastic material that is starting
to crack on the inside seams.

Vic

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>>Can't you lean across the aisle and ask? (G)

That would really stretch me to the limits: 99 miles as the crow flies.

.ed.

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On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Ed Keefe wrote:

> That would really stretch me to the limits: 99 miles as the crow
> flies.

You'll have to lean pretty hard, but I say go for it.  <g>

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It tells me 'file not found', when I try to download it.

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> Further to Andrew Zack's question regarding internet access in France, I am
> wondering about internet access in ISRAEL.  If anyone knows, please comment.

Israel is one of the most "wired" countries in the world. You'll probably be
best off signing up with a local ISP there for a month, or you can try a
compuserve account for a month, just to get into the internet, not for any
other purpose...

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:03:39 -0700
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Ed,

> I thought it would be way cool to use a Palmtop to manage the Palmtop Pap
> er
> Newsletter.  That's when I discovered that PMail can only send to 64
> addresses at a time. Also, if I read the help file correctly, I have to
> have 64 copies of the same message. For 5000+ emails, that's a lot of dis

:-( ...

I had a need to send email to many customers at once. My XXXX.ADR was many
hundreds of lines strong then, probably above thousand(?) A single email copy
and the list was sent to the ISP then the whole thing just went out.

That already exists on the product with no modifications. I regualrly use
smaller lists, up to 100 names or so usually but had that one giant one...

It seems the limit is only the size of the XXXXX.ADR file and nothing else.
Although some ISPs will give you a hard time when you send email to thousands,
assuming you are spamming these people. Aside frm that I see no issue with
Post/LX sending messages to large number of people at once.

Why don't you try it next Newsletter? (I'll send you a complimentary
registration if you need one....)

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:24:17 -0400
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AFIK, Micro Logic still offers the DOS based Info Select for sale. I
contacted them in February and they still have a few copies, but you need to
find someone in Customer Service that knows what you are talking about. They
offered to sell me a copy with the provision that it was not supported, and
that the "tickler" function would stop working later this year. It is not
fully Y2K compliant in that area, but will continue to work. They have no
plans to update the software.

Jack

> Micro Logic at http://www.miclog.com advertise a neat - looking power to
> do manager but it's windows based. I'm going to ask them if they have a
> DOS version hanging around for sale and will keep you posted.

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Actually I was MOST interested in E-MAIL rather than the web.

>just to get into the internet, not for any
>other purpose...

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Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:43:57 -0400 (EDT)

Greetings Finder gang...

Paid a visit to SUPER earlier today and found an even newer version of
X-Finder (R.9).  This has English language docs, some new features, and
includes source code.

In this version, the .xpt file for defining the palmtop screen is out
(although there's a reference in the .env comments).  Also the .xff
symbolic links work like they should now.  There's a new way to create
GUI sub-menus, too.  Looks good.

Later

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Ok gang, I need to ask a question and please don't laugh <g>. I have never
really had a need to create my own database. I use the super.gdb to keep up
with the files on the S.U.P.E.R. site and it loads and works great. I now
want to create my own database so I promply used the 'Define New Databse'
function but it keeps pulling up the default Restaurant database :( How do I
go about making my own database? Can someone give me some simple steps to
follow?

73 es tnx Jeff

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On Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:53:00 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> wrote:

> Paid a visit to SUPER earlier today and found an even newer version of
> X-Finder (R.9).  This has English language docs, some new features, and
> includes source code.

Geesh.... I finally almost get the one I've got setup and there's a new one
to have to fool with <grin>. Can we use the same .env file and just rewrite
the finder.exm?

73 Jeff

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Date:         Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:15:14 +0200
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>Is there a DOS database out there with the same look and feel as the LX
>built in one but not limited to 16 subsets?


Not the same look and feel, but have a look at DataPerfect on Supersite.

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Subject:      Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions
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>credit cards, especially one from Laust :) ... I release the Perl script
for
>all to see exactly how to reach the database, passwords and all... Nah!

That's not correct: On a Unix machine only the server should have read
rights on the Perl script,
because the .pl or .cgi extention is associated with perl. You cannot open
such a perl script
with an editor from outside, unless you have access with telnet to this
directory. So you should
not give read rights for the directory.

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found a review of an led flashlight at an aviation website

this is the url for the ad (usual disclaimer that i have no
commercial relation)

 http://www.avweb.com/sponsors/photon/index.html

and url for the review, (you must registerwith avweb  no cost to
read)
 http://www.avweb.com/articles/flashlit.html

rigging up a stand for this, (nice "spreading lens" on flashlight )
might be easier



Regards
T


> Date:          Sun, 4 Apr 1999 08:27:58 GMT
> From:          Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
> Subject:       LED light ready!

> Hi again,
>
> the instructions for building the LED light
> for the LX is now available in the MORE &...
> section on www.palmtop.net
>
> or directly on the URL
> www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html
>
> Thanks to Mitch Hamm!
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> Daniel Hertrich
> Germany
> email: d.hertrich@gmx.de
> -------------------------------------------------
>
>

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Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:43:17 -0400 (EDT)

35m58s ago ...
On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Geesh.... I finally almost get the one I've got setup and there's a new =
one
> to have to fool with <grin>. Can we use the same .env file and just =
rewrite
> the finder.exm?

Yep.  Worked for me.  But don't use Finder itself to do the rewrite.
Close Finder and use Filer or STS.

The docs mention some changes to make in the .env - but it works anyway.
I made the changes by using F7 (Custom).

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> I've posted a preliminary version of the classic game "Snake". If
> anyone's interested, let me know what you think. You can get it at
> http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html

Hey Curtis has done it again!  Snake is a pretty good game.

I don't know if I'll play it much away from AC power though.
I try to avoid running action games where something is always
moving versus games where the pc waits for my input. My
(il)logic is that it takes much more battery to keep the action
game constantly running.  Is this a valid concern?

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> I'm am going to France the end of May and would like to use
> my HP to keep in touch with my family while there. Does
> anyone have a suggestion for a US based ISP with access numbers in
> France. Also, what type of adaptor do I need to plug my modem
> into a French phone jack?

I know that UUNet has a Paris number (a long-distance call).
Other than that, there's always the ever-present CompuServe
and AOL. You will need to get an adaptor for your modem to
work in France - it's comparatively bulky and old-fashioned
looking, but it works! If you want cheap(ish) Net access
while you're there (no POP3 email), try out France Explorer,
a free program from France Telecom.

 -Mike

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Subject:      Re: Perl versions
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A Meshar writes:
> Some questions to you Perl hotshots:

Having written a 27000 line EDA program in Perl, I'll take a shot :-)

> 1. Can anyone provide some discussion about PERL versions? I have a PERL 4.1.9
> and another (recently announced here) version 4.0.36 (with PAL ext.)

Perl 5.005 is the latest production version.  There is no 16 bit port
of perl 4 that I know of.  Perl 5 added object oriented features (which
I personally love and use every day at work) and lots of other
miscellaneous stuff.  The latest version I know of that runs ons the
palmtop is 4.0.36.

> Books I see are usually for Perl 5.

Nobody admits to using Perl 4 any more :-)

> 2. Could someone knowledgeable please provide some info on differences and
> relevance to Palmtop?

See above.

> 3. Also, if you can, some info on implementation of Perl in the WWW
> environment. Specifically: Let's suppose I want to add some "brains" behind
> the Webpages. I understand I can write PERL programs that will be activated
> when one clicks on a link, or otherwise fetches a URL.

Perl is arguably the leading scripting language for CGI scripts on the
web.  Everything you want to do above is done every second by millions
of web servers around the world.

> 4. What is the extent of the work PERL can do?
>
> I mean: Can it generate entire HTML docs and send them on the fly to the
> requesting user?

Perl can do anything :-)  There is an archive of perl modules called
CPAN (Comprehensive Perl Archive Network) which has a module for just
about everything (including one for working with HP200 GDB files).

> 5. Can I using Perl go to some URL on a Webpage that uses a form, enter the
> data in the form, "press" Enter, then grab the output, manipulate that output
> and include parts of it in a HTML doc created on the fly which then would be
> displayed to the original requester? I want to keep the access to the form
> and the results invisible from the original requester, i.e. just process the
> stuff, and repackage it in ways that are more er... palatable?, readable?

Yes.  I have a perl script which grabs the latest Dilbert cartoon for
me every day.

> Anyone can provide info on this I'd appreciate a great deal. I am sure many of
> us here are hungry for this kind of info.

Perl is the best thing since sliced bread.  Don't let anyone tell you
different.  Pity it's a bit to resource hungry to do major things on
the palmtop.

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Subject:      Another Database Question

Okay, thanks to some list members, I now have set up a database :) Now how
do I go about assigning an icon to it? Also, if I have a field setup as a
category where it provides a pull down menu of items to pick, how do I
insert the items to pick from in the pull down box?

73 Jeff

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Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:40:38 -0400 (EDT)

01h02m43s ago ...
On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Okay, thanks to some list members, I now have set up a database :) Now =
how
> do I go about assigning an icon to it? Also, if I have a field setup as =
a
> category where it provides a pull down menu of items to pick, how do I
> insert the items to pick from in the pull down box?

Hi Jeff-

To add a category choice, close the list box and type the item.
(200LX manual pg 4-22)  <g>

As for assigning an icon to your DB, now you're using XF it's simple.
In XF go to the directory with the new DB, hit Spacebar to mark it,
hit 0 to go back to the /Palmtop icon screen, and hit Ctrl-  (Control
minus) to create a symbolic link.  If the DB is called jeff.gdb then
the link will be jeff.xff  This works right in the new XF, but not in
R.8   For that version, you need to use your editor to create a file
called jeff.xfe - that reads (for example) open c:\_dat\jeff.gdb - and
put it in your c:\palmtop directory.

You can pick an icon from your collection, or create one.  Name it
jeff.icn and copy it to your icon.lzh file.

If you have open.exe installed, and are working with a .env based on
what I sent, this should work.

-Peniel
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Does HV print documents? I looked in the help but didn't see
anything. Will a print screen print the whole document?

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So.... are any of our resident icon artists going to make us a nifty icon
for Snake?

73 Jeff

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I was browsing around on the net and ran across this link
that shows a backlit 200LX!  Cool!  Wonder how they did
that!?
http://www.concentric.net/~Azusa/200lx.htm

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On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Steve Dowell wrote:

> I was browsing around on the net and ran across this link that shows a
> backlit 200LX!  Cool!  Wonder how they did that!?
> http://www.concentric.net/~Azusa/200lx.htm

Probably with an electroluminescent panel.  The only trouble with that is
that it requires an external power supply, really, and it has to be on all
the time to be able to see the screen.  But I'd still install it if I
could get it to work.  <g>

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> Is there a DOS database out there with the same look and feel as the LX
> built in one but not limited to 16 subsets?

Check out Lotus Agenda availlable at SUPER. It has no GUI but
is very powerfull in managing subsets and views.



HP Staber/Salzburg

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Can any of the icon artists on the list make me an icon that looks like a
telegraph key? I have tried to draw one, but I'm definately not an artist
and what I came up with was quite strange looking <g>.

73 Jeff

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Subject:      Re: Backlit LX...

Steve Dowell writes:
> I was browsing around on the net and ran across this link
> that shows a backlit 200LX!  Cool!  Wonder how they did
> that!?
> http://www.concentric.net/~Azusa/200lx.htm

I didn't see an external power supply in the picture!

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On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> I didn't see an external power supply in the picture!

It's probably behind the palmtop...

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I'm curious how many people are playing around with Minix on the palmtop? I
have been for a couple of days and it's actually quite amazing to have an
operating system like this running on my 200LX. Now I just need to figure
out something useful to do with it <g>.

73 Jeff

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On 04-18 11:55pm CDT, the following was written:

> It's probably behind the palmtop...

Or.... somebody developed a minature cold fusion reactor and stuffed it inot
the case of the LX!

73 Jeff

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Here's my crack at it ;-)

Yeah, I know.  I just happen to have nothing better to do right now ;-)

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 9:40 PM
Subject: Another Icon


>Can any of the icon artists on the list make me an icon that looks like a
>telegraph key? I have tried to draw one, but I'm definately not an artist
>and what I came up with was quite strange looking <g>.
>
>73 Jeff
>


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AQABACwAIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD/wAP/wADAwCMAwABhgBGBgAAzAAjDAAAeH/xmAAA
MAAg8AAAMABAYAAAMACAYAAAMAgAYAAAMBAAYAAAMCAAYAAAMH/wYAAAMCAAYAAAABAAAAAAAAgA
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Oops, didn't mean to send my icon to the list.

Sorry...

-Tim
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: Another Icon


>Here's my crack at it ;-)
>
>Yeah, I know.  I just happen to have nothing better to do right now ;-)
>
>-Tim
>tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
>tims.phone@bigfoot.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 9:40 PM
>Subject: Another Icon
>
>
>>Can any of the icon artists on the list make me an icon that looks like a
>>telegraph key? I have tried to draw one, but I'm definately not an artist
>>and what I came up with was quite strange looking <g>.
>>
>>73 Jeff
>>
>
>

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David Sargeant writes:
> On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Steve Dowell wrote:
>
> > I was browsing around on the net and ran across this link that shows a
> > backlit 200LX!  Cool!  Wonder how they did that!?
> > http://www.concentric.net/~Azusa/200lx.htm
>
> Probably with an electroluminescent panel.  The only trouble with that is

How do the electroluminescent panels work?

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I just sent a message to the web site owner to ask about the power and told
him where to find this list.  I'll let y'all know if I get a reply.

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Sent:   Sunday, April 18, 1999 11:56 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: Backlit LX...

On 04-18 11:55pm CDT, the following was written:

> It's probably behind the palmtop...

Or.... somebody developed a minature cold fusion reactor and stuffed it
inot
the case of the LX!

73 Jeff

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Jeff,

> I'm curious how many people are playing around with Minix on the =
palmtop? I
> have been for a couple of days and it's actually quite amazing to have =
an
> operating system like this running on my 200LX. Now I just need to =
figure
> out something useful to do with it <g>.

Same with me. Does the ACCTON network work? How do I have to initiate
it?

Regards

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On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:

> Same with me. Does the ACCTON network work? How do I have to initiate
> it?

Mack's working on that.  I've contacted the author of the Accton network
drivers and am awaiting his response, as obviously source code for that
would help the Minix networking effort tremendously.

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> > I'm curious how many people are playing around with Minix on the palmtop? I

I'm curious about that too. How is it working out? Can the LX
multitask?

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Hi Hal,

> Great. I don't think you lose much memory with CICFAKE, unless someone
> has ideas, I wouldn't worry about it.

OK, it isn't much memory, but although it would be nice if I could
load it in only one or two sessions... we'll see.

> Is 123 in a 2nd system manager session? My guess is that has to do with
> an old bug, fixed for session one. If I am right, for the work-around
> try pressing F1 help and ESC and move the cursor. Or go to MORE and then
> back.

Thanks, I'll try.

>
> For those that don't know the history of Software Carousel and our
> (Thaddeus Computing) involvement, here goes. About two years ago, the
...
> product, as it allows us to sell it and feel that our customers are
> supported.

Who has got the source code? Version 7 is new, AFAIK, so Sunshine
was probably out of business, when v7 was made.
Who made it instead?

>
> I believe you purchased it from Tom Rundel who buys SC from us.

Right. It was easier for all of us, I think. Less shipping costs,
less money order costs, less shipping time...
But I appreciate it to anyhow get _your_ support!

GTX
daniel

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> Mack's working on that.  I've contacted the author of the Accton =
network
> drivers and am awaiting his response, as obviously source code for that
> would help the Minix networking effort tremendously.

Looking forward to it.

Regards

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Hi,

if anyone sent a mail to me (or a mail to the list which
I should read) within the last few days, please send it
once more, because I didn't get any email
since about 3 days, I think because of a mail server
failure of my ISP.

Now all seems to be OK again.

Thanks
daniel

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John Musielewicz wrote:
> Does HV print documents? I looked in the help but didn't see
> anything. Will a print screen print the whole document?

Print screen will print the screen and not the whole documents. HV just
formats the document for the screen and not for a printer, so there is
no "print" command.

Andreas

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Subject:      freeze up problems

Good morning everyone

Have I said how much I love my DOS LX?<g> Anyway, occassionally (about
once a month) when the meesages pop up on the upper left corner of
the screen like low battery, or battery charging started my LX will
freeze solid and needs a hard reset. It only happens on my T2T upraded
LX. My stock LX is fine. Is it something to worry about? Thanks.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:33:12 +0100
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Subject:      Grandview & Windows 98
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Subject says it all - does this work ?

Jon Hind

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:40:55 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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> The PWRMENU.INI holds the whole DOS command including the path
> of LXMAP. If I call PWRMENU from within the directory where I
> save the maps - then it works. If I call it from outside -
> then no action.
>
> Is there anything obvious which I missed.

Yes, you also have to use the full path with the .IDX file, not
only with the LXMAP.COM file.

The reason is that LXMAP does not support paths. Until now I
didn't find a simple solution to implement path support into
my assembler programs. AFAIK there is no DOS function allowing
to only handle over a filename and let the function search the
path in order to find the file. On higher level languages, such
functions exist, but not on the DOS function level.

Any suggestions appreciated.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:57:03 +0100
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              Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>
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In article <199904190456.XAA30353x@scott.net>, Jeff Johns
<jeffj@SCOTT.NET> writes
>On 04-18 11:55pm CDT, the following was written:
>
>> It's probably behind the palmtop...
>
>Or.... somebody developed a minature cold fusion reactor and stuffed it inot
>the case of the LX!
>
No, come on you guys - think!
There's a solar panel on the keyboard, and it gets its power from the
display's output.
--
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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:31:15 -0400
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              Tamas Feher <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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From:         Tamas Feher <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
Subject:      A Turbo Pascal programming tool pack to donate.

        Hello all,

 Anyone still developing in Turbo Pascal?
 (BTW: fluff: the control software for the radar of the swedish
 light fighter plane JAS-39 Gripen was written in Turbo Pascal!
 I checked if that was a typo and no, not ADA, not ASM but good
 ol' Borland Turbo Pascal. I'm glad our govt. postponed the
 combat a/c buy for a few years!)

 Back on topic: I have a still shrinkwrapped copy of Nostradamus
 Turbo Plus for Turbo Pascal 5.0 and 5.5 (supports OOP features)
 It is a pack of programming tools for Turbo Pascal from 1988.
 I will donate it, if one can make use of it for XT betterment:

 Screen, kbd, cursor, dynamic menus, universal menus, system
 resources, integer/real/floating-point/sci.notation I/O fields,
 I/O field intervention, file handling, normal and critical error
 handling, diagnostics, sounds, mouse, strings, timer, special
 effects, printers, PCX and PCC graphic files, grouped file libs,
 general/elementary/standard/pre-allocated windows, windows modi-
 fication, directory windows, windows pushing/popping, graphics
 windows, user color installation, instant displays, curtain
 displays, venetian blind display, exploding displays, compress
 and uncompress, automatic mono/color change

 Includes:   set of unit libraries (see above)
             screen painter
             source code generator
             prototyper
             sample programs
             pop-up help system (installs into Borland IDE help)
             300 page manual with index

 Source code generator: Turbo Genie, organizes screens/windows
 and generates actual source code for entire Turbo Pascal unit.
 Prototyper: For viewing and design of an application, as the
 screens, windows, menus and I/O fields are created.
 Sample programs: Over 20 features and capabilities demo prgs.
 Screen Painter: Turbo Plus can display, push/pop and otherwise
 process all screens, menus, windows created with Screen Genie,
 in mono/color at CGA, EGA, VGA 25/43/50 lines text modes. Also
 bitmapped graphics can be processed in CGA/EGA/VGA modes, even
 though Screen Genie is a text based screen painter. -End-

             Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:53:17 +0200
Reply-To:     Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de
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From:         Paulo Custodio <Paulo.Custodio@ALCATEL.DE>
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Subject:      Re: pushkeys
Comments: To: Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@compuserve.com>
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Ed Keefe wrote:
>
> >>what's pushkeys (available only on US Palmtops?)
> Here's the "User's Digest" version of the Pushkeys article from a 1994
> issue of PTP by yours truly.

Now that I am interested, my palmtop does not contain pushkeys (I've
searched the D drive)

Could pushkeys be used on non-US palmtops? If yes, where can we get it?

Regards,
Paulo

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:59:49 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Backlit 200LX (Fluff)

Forget cold fusion and solar cells. Get an old pacemaker and
take out the nuclear battery. Should be good for a few years
of use.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:20:09 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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Seriously... If  Thaddeus or T2T could find out how they did that, and
assuming
that it's practical (no pacemakers attached to it <g>), that would be an
excellent upgrade option!

Steve

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:19:42 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Manhattan map

Morning Ed:
How do you do that?
Can you do it sideways?  It'll fit on the screen
better without wasting screen space.   If you
can get 96th street to the Battery in one shot,
it'd be great.  How about a block map?

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:17:55 -0400
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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Pushkeys is a hidden file in the D:\bin directory on US Palmtops only.
There is no documentation for the program and it is known to have some
glitches. Someone might be willing to send you the program file privately=
.
.ed.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:28:38 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      pushkeys

Hello Paulo

I'm sorry I deleted your mail by accident and lost your email address.
If you want me to send
you pushkeys.com send me you email address. I'm sure pushkeys will work
on non-english palmtops.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:34:03 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Backlit 200LX (Fluff)

John Musielewicz writes:
> Forget cold fusion and solar cells. Get an old pacemaker and
> take out the nuclear battery. Should be good for a few years
> of use.

In fact, get a bunch of old fire alarms and take out the (thorium?)
and MAKE a battery good for about 10 years.<g> A lead lined
200LX anyone?

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:17:35 +0200
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From:         Paulo Custodio <Paulo.Custodio@ALCATEL.DE>
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Subject:      Re: pushkeys
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Hello John,

Thanks for the offer, but as Ed Keefe just pointed out, pushkeys is a
hidden file in D:\bin - I've found it!

My LX was bought in Portugal, and I do not know if it is a US model or
not.


Regards,
Paulo

John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> Hello Paulo
>
> I'm sorry I deleted your mail by accident and lost your email address.
> If you want me to send
> you pushkeys.com send me you email address. I'm sure pushkeys will work
> on non-english palmtops.
>
> John
>
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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:58:49 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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No problem, just edit the "restaurant" DB by removing, renaming, and etc.
Then save it using the name of your choice.

Phil

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:23:55 -0500
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              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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From:         Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Internet Acess in Israel
Comments: To: Leslie Cohn <lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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At 10:48 AM 4/18/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Further to Andrew Zack's question regarding internet access in France, I am
>wondering about internet access in ISRAEL.  If anyone knows, please comment.
>

Les:

I was in Israel a couple of years ago. I used my HP100LX, WWW/lx , Post/LX
and Compuserve to retreive email from my Chicago area ISP mail account.

Compuserve has an affiliate called Israkav which actually handles the
traffic. You can get access numbers off of the Compuserve website. There
are several to handle parts of the country. If you use WWW/lx, there is a
script on the D&A site to handle Israkav, as it is a little diferent than
Compuserve in the US.

It worked like a dream, and made our trip a lot easier as we could stay in
touch with our housesitter, ad get instant travel tips from friends in the US.

I would suggest that whichever ISP you try, that you experiment by dialing
into that services' overseas nodes from the comfort of your home. That way,
you can work out any bugs before you leave. Also, if you are not flying
directly to Israel, but are transferring in places like Frankfort, Paris,
London, etc, get access numbers for those places as well. We were stuck on
Frankfurt for 12 hours because of a strike at Ben-Gurion ariport, and would
love to have been able to email people about that, but didn't have local
access numbers.

Many hotels can handle US phone jacks, but occasionaly you may have to get
an adaptor for the Israeli ones. I picked one up at a store in Jerusalem
for about $4. If there isn't a jack in the room, ask if there is a business
center that you can use. I did that in Tel Aviv. Our Jerusalem room had
extra phone jacks in the wall, and one marked Fax. With some
experimentation, and the adaptor, I discovered that was the one to use.

If you have any other questions, post or email me directly.



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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:23:16 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Who has got the source code? Version 7 is new, AFAIK, so Sunshine
was probably out of business, when v7 was made.
Who made it instead?>>

The authors of the Software Carousel program (formerly Sunshine) still
have code and made changes for version 7. We have the rights to sell it
for a couple of years. To make changes I would have to go back to the
authors, and their fee is VERY expensive.

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1 day 06h41m22s ago ...
On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:


> Tables are often "abused" to do graphical layouting of the pages. There
> is simply no chance to satisfyingly support that on the palmtop due to =
lack
> of memory and the small screen size.
>
> And even if that would not be the case, HV is simply not extendable
> anymore...

     Well, such is life! Still a fantastic package as it stands now.

Thanks!


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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:41:41 -0400
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              Davis Chapel <chapel@CLIFFHANGER.COM>
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Subject:      POST/LX and PGP
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Delurking here.  I am trying to set up POST/LX (version 2.2a) to use PGP
(version 2.6.3i).  I have PGP working fine with messages I transfer from my
desktop to the palmtop.  I use maxdos to give PGP plenty of memory in Post.
I have set up PGP according to the web page at D&A, using the calls to PGP
from Post/PE.

All works except that when Post downloads an encrypted message, it seems to
wrap the PGP messageID, so that the top looks like:

-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 MessageID:
xbWAExYjkihqEaevcH5gwS2kZy/gz6TB

hQBsAw4mi58lyGT5AQMAuZD9snCe5xWhQN9xLG8Jz9LeOWXHqQvQfF8b7Lwozy93
Zo6A33ODg+ps218hrctro4G42QCe4rKR/1sfcnMz3kHhujOFfEiFvdswHHWUkAMD
L94yZjzFroVhIFTnUS8DhQBsA6tfbPxzlAV3AQMA4AtZw8bR/xne6sGzTPvxallw
...

And the end looks like:

SA7Cy4Vij3a+beFuBesNY75h2xEYe0Rl2SsW7kMFQQ75EidqULrbs/V5jcsf4+VN
RnFyMb/6E7iyftlHCUdCJjo= =KfEU -----END PGP MESSAGE-----


Where there should be hard returns separating the various header/footer/armor
codes.  This stops PGP dead in its tracks with the message that the ASCII
armor is corrupted.

Can anyone tell me why Post/LX does this?  Is there some CFG setting that can
fix it?

Thanks and regards
davis

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:46:47 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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From:         Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
Subject:      Re: POST/LX and PGP
Comments: To: Davis Chapel <chapel@CLIFFHANGER.COM>
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On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Davis Chapel wrote:

> Delurking here.  I am trying to set up POST/LX (version 2.2a) to use PGP
> (version 2.6.3i).  I have PGP working fine with messages I transfer from my
> desktop to the palmtop.  I use maxdos to give PGP plenty of memory in Post.
> I have set up PGP according to the web page at D&A, using the calls to PGP
> from Post/PE.
>
> All works except that when Post downloads an encrypted message, it seems to
> wrap the PGP messageID, so that the top looks like:
>
> -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 MessageID:

snip

> Can anyone tell me why Post/LX does this?  Is there some CFG setting that can
> fix it?

You need to turn auto-formatting off.  Alt-F will take care of this...
then it'll work right.

PGP on the palmtop is SO cool.

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN.  It's like riding a
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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:55:13 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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From:         Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions
Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <199904170908.CAA01939@ftel.net>; from A Meshar on Sat, Apr 17,
              1999 at 02:08:50AM -0700
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1999-04-17-09:08:50 A Meshar:
> Well, after all the encouragements I get, I also had another idea which would
> be easily implemented using Perl. However! I want the distributed program to
> be an executable file, not a .PL that can be changed - that would create havoc
> in my plan.

That's a shame.

> So I think it is a very relevant question: Is it possible to create
> executables from Perl?

On certain platforms, with certain versions of perl, yes: on some versions of
Unix, with perl4, there was support for "undumping" a core (using hacks
borrowed from late-'80s-vintage TeX or Emacs); for recent releases of perl 5
there's a compiler that can generate C.

> Is it possible to do it on Palmtops with Perl4 or Perl5?

Nope. perl4 can't do the trick under DOS, and perl5 doesn't run on the
palmtop.

> Also, if Perl is so good (and it strikes me like a very flexible language!)
> then we should be able to use it in multiple environments on a server site, as
> well as a palmtop. For security purposes it would be nice to have it in an
> executable form on the server side.

I'd dispute that claim; I argue that an executable in one format (8086 machine
code wrapped in .com or .exe file clothes) offers no security over an
executable in another format (perl source code ready to be compiled-and-run by
a working perl interpreter). A few minor barriers, maybe; someone wanting to
get past the obstruction of the .exe format might need to score themselves a
good decompiler and familiarize themselves with a good debugger. But no more
real security.

-Bennett

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:57:42 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <199904172213.PAA08236@ftel.net>; from A Meshar on Sat, Apr 17,
              1999 at 03:13:39PM -0700
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1999-04-17-22:13:39 A Meshar:
> > Why not just release the source? everyone else does that and it certainly
> > doesn't create havoc...
>
> Let's see: On the Webserver I have a database with all orders, including
> credit cards, especially one from Laust :) ... I release the Perl script for
> all to see exactly how to reach the database, passwords and all... Nah! I
> think not a good idea, and I think it _will_ create havoc.

If you were planning on releasing a machine language executable that contained
the password and protocols for accessing your database with your credit card
info, I hope you will reconsider that plan. It is _Really_ not a good idea.

> Another issue: The app I have in mind is to be distributed to people who can
> easily hack their way into things if the know the doors. When I jeopardize
> _other people's_ property by doing this, I think it creates havoc, and I won't
> do it.

So don't do it. If you can't release your code in perl source, don't release
it in executable; there's no useful difference in security.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:16:12 -0400
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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>
> Date:    Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:29:14 +0200
> From:    John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
> Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market
>
> Peter W. Borders writes:
> > > Umm, I better go tell the computer reseller down the block
who unloads
> > > used 386, 486, pentiums by the pallet load<g>.
> > >
> > >
> > > John
> >
> > Make something cheap enough and someone will buy it but that
hardly
> > matters to retail outlets. I don't think this "reseller down
the
> > block" is a compusa or equally large chain store.
>
> Just had a Computer City close down. That's a pretty large
chain.
> Not saying they closed down because of used dealers but you
never
> know!
>

CompUSA bought them out - Tandy never *really* put an effort into
them. I always preferred them to CompUSA though for stock and
atmosphere (such as it was).

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw)

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Thanks, Bill.  That did.
Regards,
davis

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Date sent:              Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:57:03 +0100
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        Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>
From:                   Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:                Re: Backlit LX...
To:                     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> In article <199904190456.XAA30353x@scott.net>, Jeff Johns
> <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> writes
> >On 04-18 11:55pm CDT, the following was written:
> >
> >> It's probably behind the palmtop...
> >
> >Or.... somebody developed a minature cold fusion reactor and stuffed it
> >inot the case of the LX!
> >
> No, come on you guys - think!
> There's a solar panel on the keyboard, and it gets its power from the
> display's output. -- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk)
>

A HA HA HA HA HA HA.

A HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:31:57 -0700
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              Larry Mittell <lmittel@IBM.NET>
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I love it! The second law of thermodynamics bites the dust again!

BTW, one of my thermo professors stated the second law as follows: "You can't
shove dung up a cow's rear and get hay out its mouth."

At 11:57 AM 4/19/99 +0100, Chris Randle wrote:

>No, come on you guys - think!
>There's a solar panel on the keyboard, and it gets its power from the
>display's output.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:44:31 -0500
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On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Alan Peres wrote:

> I would suggest that whichever ISP you try, that you experiment by dialing
> into that services' overseas nodes from the comfort of your home. That way,
> you can work out any bugs before you leave.

This is an excellent precaution for *any* planned remote
access during travel.  I myself learned this the hard way.

Ted

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:16:30 -0700
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It's not the smallest Webserver in the world.
It's not the fastest by any means.
But it is I believe

    The World's First Palmtop Webserver!


Yes, a real webserver, running on the HP 200LX.

Give it a try, http://technoir.nu:8080/hplx/


Sorry M$ Internet Explorer users. It doesn't seem
to work with most versions of IE past 3.0.


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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:31:03 -0700
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Bummer, you've beat LXVWS out of the starting gate...  Curious
how the two will compare servicing multiple connections.  I'll
bet JNOS doesn't handle virtual domains!

> It's not the smallest Webserver in the world.
> It's not the fastest by any means.
> But it is I believe
>
>     The World's First Palmtop Webserver!
>
>
> Yes, a real webserver, running on the HP 200LX.
>
> Give it a try, http://technoir.nu:8080/hplx/
>
>
> Sorry M$ Internet Explorer users. It doesn't seem
> to work with most versions of IE past 3.0.
>
>
> Mike Kopplin
> kopplin@primenet.com
>
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>

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:39:50 -0500
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        I was able to access it with IE 5.0.
        The page came up very fast!  Neat!


        > Sorry M$ Internet Explorer users. It doesn't seem
        > to work with most versions of IE past 3.0.
        >
        >
        > Mike Kopplin
        > kopplin@primenet.com


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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:04:19 -0400
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              Joe_Lapp/RDL/RYDERSYSTEMINC/US%RYDERSYSTEMINC@RYDER.COM
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On 17 April Anand Rao wrote:

     I have found this program the most aesthetically pleasing and useful among
     the various clock programs for the 200LX. Excellent software, Jorgen, and
     many thanks.

     In addition to the daily alarm I also use it to 'time out' meetings that
     would otherwise drag on.


I have been looking for alarm sounds to use in place of the built in ones.     I
am especially looking for reveille.     I recall seeing it on a site some time
ago but can't seem to locate again.    Does anyone have know where I can locate?

Joe

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:09:42 -0400
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On 16 April Philippe Lewis wrote:

   Someone replied to me a little while ago when I asked the same question.
   They mentioned that a program called Transfile can do basic file transfer...

I downloaded Transfile recently (couple of months ago) from the HP web site.
It is very easy to use and I have not had any problem transferring data to the
200LX.

If you are unable to locate let me know and perhaps I can send it to you
directly.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:26:13 EST
Reply-To:     tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: HP and the handheld market

> Using an out-of-the-box WinCE gadget, you cannot even exchange a file
> with a (non-Windows) computer. You cannot even install any software,
> you cannot even enter an Umlaut, you cannot read a WinWord or Excel
> document. All in all: with a WinCE gadget with out a desktop, you can
> do less than you could do with a $50 Casio organiser 8 years ago.
>

A couple of corrections to the above since it is a little onesided.
First, for can exchange files with non-windows machines since there
are irda drivers for linux. Second, you can download and install
software without a windows host, this is determined by the software
author not the OS. Also, I would hardly say that you can do less than
you could with a casio from 8 years ago. Or are you saying that all
those things listed could be done on an 8 year old casio WITHOUT a
desktop machine?

I have never understood the need to run down another system to make
your favorite system look good. Don't people think that the hp200lx
can stand on its own, without having to go out of the way to run down
anything else that might compete with it? The same thing seems to go
on in all walks of life, my car is good so your car has to be a POS.
My school is better than yours because yours is garbage. I don't mean
to single out anyone in particular, I just find it curious.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:51:50 +0200
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              Jacques Belin <listes2@ALTERN.ORG>
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Le Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:21:28 +0000
Andrew Zarick <andymd@CWIX.COM> =e9crivait:

> I'm am going to France the end of May and would like to use
> my HP to keep in touch with my family while there. Does
> anyone have a suggestion for a US based ISP with access numbers in
> France.

No "regular" ISPs. Only Compuserve (sure) and AOL (if it is yet the same
architecture type than Compuserve, allowing worldwide account
checking...)

> Also, what type of adaptor do I need to plug my modem
> into a French phone jack?

You need a specific Adaptator. Availlable in France everywere
supermarkets... Some of them using RJ11 terminated cables.

A+ Jacques.
------------------------------
Le dernier administrateur du web "altern"atif se trouvait chez lui..
On frappa =e0 la porte...
------------ Une histoire de Fredric Brown revue par Estelle Hallyday.
---------------------------- La r=e9sistance est sur http://altern.org/defe=
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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:51:39 -0400
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          "INTERNET:Joe_Lapp/RDL/RYDERSYSTEMINC/US%RYDERSYSTEMINC@RYDER.COM"
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I think this plays Reveille

K1 T235 V1 O3 L4 CF L8 AF L4 CAF L8 AF L4 CAF L8 AF L4 CF L2 A L4 F L4 CF=

L8 AF L4 CAF L8 AF L4 CAF L8 AF L4 CC L2 F. L4 =

AAAAA O4 L2 C O3 L4 A FAFAF L2 A L4 F AAAAA O4 L2 C O3 L4 A L8 FA L4 O4 C=

O3 CCC L2 F

.ed.PTP

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I just looked, Earthlink has a number in France.  International billing
is $0.15/minute.  Don't know how this compares to the rest.  Might
check with Netcom, I believe my friend in England uses a U.K. Netcom
account and gets to use the U.S. dialups at no extra charge when he's
over here.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:13:07 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Comments: To: Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>

>I was browsing around on the net and ran across this link
>that shows a backlit 200LX!  Cool!  Wonder how they did
>that!?


Is he a member of the list? Maybe we should invite him? :-)
He is in Texas, any local palmtoppers near him? Good excuse for a visit!


Have a nice day!

Franklin

Libretto 50CT + Nokia 2110. SMS/voice: 917 51641.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:50:04 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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I've written to him and told him how to join the list. I imagine he's
gotten several invites from other people on the list as well <g>.

I asked him to jump right in and introduce himself after he gets
subscribed!

Steve

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Franklin Eekhout SMTP:franklin@online.no
        Sent:   Monday, April 19, 1999 4:13 PM
        To:     HPLX Mailing List; Steve Dowell
        Subject:        Re:      Backlit LX...

        Is he a member of the list? Maybe we should invite him? :-)
        He is in Texas, any local palmtoppers near him? Good excuse for
a visit!


        Have a nice day!

        Franklin

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Date:         Tue, 1 Jan 1980 04:17:34 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: LX servers (was Re: POST/LX ideas)
Comments: To: John Musielewicz <a123456@bitstream.net>

On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:
> A mail server for the 200LX would be fun of course (but useful?).

It already exists (smtpserv.zip for WatTCP).  Someone will find a good
use for it :-)

John Musielewicz writes:
> Steven Lawson writes:
> > For that matter, the 'Velcroed Web Server' is getting *very* close to
> > being real...  Stay tuned.. :-)
>
> What is the "Velcroed Web Server"? I remember a few months agao you
> said you were working on something for the 200LX. Is this it?

Yep.  Steven & I are just putting the final touches on it now (it will
be part of the LXTCP package).  It served it's first page from my
palmtop to my desktop last Thursday.

Anyone who has a spare palmtop and ethernet card connected to the
internet can apply now to be an alpha tester (just send me an email).
We'll post the server URLs for everyone to access once the servers are
running.

I've rewritten the concurrent TCP/IP access routines for the web
server, so it should be much more stable than the FTP server was when
confronted with an internet full of clients.

There is now a LXINETD base platform upon which other servers can be
built.  The web server and simple "discard" and "echo" service servers
are the first.

I hope to add a rewrite of the FTP server, and then finger, SMTP, etc.
You'll be able to recompile and select a subset of the available
servers to rebuild a smaller executable and leave more room more more
concurrent connections.  The API will be open, so others can contribute
servers.  Long term, we hope that it can be a TSR, so you can still
surf in the foreground while serving pages in the background.  We
encourage other TCP/IP developers to join the development team
(especially those with TSR and EMS experience).

-- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation --
-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
-- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net <URL:http://rwhitby.hplx.net> --

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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: LXTCP
Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net

John Musielewicz writes:
> > copy c:\nws\spool\hplx.jn c:\nws\spool\incoming.jn
> > lxnntp nntp.server=news.hplx.net nntp.username=rwhitby nntp.password=password
> > copy c:\nws\spool\incoming.jn c:\nws\spool\hplx.jn
> > copy c:\nws\spool\mot.jn c:\nws\spool\incoming.jn
> > lxnntp nntp.proxy= nntp.server=news.mot.com nntp.username=
> > copy c:\nws\spool\incoming.jn c:\nws\spool\mot.jn
>
> Thanks Rod,
>
> Got it.

Note that the next LXTCP beta (due any day now) will have a newsrc=
parameter to do all this without needing the copying.

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-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> I'm am going to France the end of May and would like to use
> my HP to keep in touch with my family while there. Does
> anyone have a suggestion for a US based ISP with access numbers in
> France.

Check out IBM.NET.  IBM really is an International company and
can be found in many countries.  I don't know for sure it does
offer ISP connections in France but I'd be surprised if it
didn't.

You can ask in the newsgroup ibmnet.general to be sure.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:18:39 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: The First Palmtop Webserver

Michael Kopplin writes:
> It's not the smallest Webserver in the world.

Actually it is. The board in the 200LX is smaller than
any out there.

> It's not the fastest by any means.
> But it is I believe
>
>     The World's First Palmtop Webserver!
>
>
> Yes, a real webserver, running on the HP 200LX.
>
> Give it a try, http://technoir.nu:8080/hplx/

Is the software availible? Its really cool, Thanks.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:28:30 -0400
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--- begin of forwarded message ---

From- CURRIE1234@aol.com
Date- Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:50:11 EDT
Subject- Hello


I would like to introduce myself as a new subscriber.My computers
(presently),are a hp 620 lx,Vadem Clio,Nec laptop,and a Gateway Handbook
Sub-Notebook.I may also be tempted into getting a HP xx(x) lx,where the =
x's
mean DOS.My computer background goes back some 25 yrs,with a 24 yr =
absence
from them.Needless to say,there have been a couple of small changes in =
the
field in the interim,and I am trying to catch up.    Neill(best reached =
at
neill@keyway.net)

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:12:45 +0000
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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Subject:      Cut and Paste (Was: SC problems)
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Has anyone found a program that would let you easily cut and paste (C&P)
between Software Carousel (SC) sessions like the earlier non-palmtop SC
versions?

If so,  what is its name and where can it be obtained?  URL?

If not, perhaps the SC authors could modify the earlier C&P code to give us
that capability?  The C&P program could either be included with SC or sold
as an optional add-on.

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At 09:23 AM 4/19/99 -0500, Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> wrote:
>The authors of the Software Carousel program (formerly Sunshine) still
>have code and made changes for version 7. We have the rights to sell it
>for a couple of years. To make changes I would have to go back to the
>authors, and their fee is VERY expensive.
>

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:01:12 -0500
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Let me first state that I am NOT a fan of NASCAR racing, but I am forced to
attend the Talladega races two times each year and have done so for the past
ten years in an official capacity as a Deputy Sheriff. If any of you are
planning on attending the race this weekend (there's usually around 200,000
that attend) let me know and I'll try to look you up before the race :)

73 Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:07:08 +0800
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              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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How about this - It's a Small World After All ....

k1to4l32e l32f l16g o5l16e l16c l32d l32c l16c o4l16b l16b l32d l32e l16f
o5l16d o4l16b o5l32c o4l32b l16a l16g l16g l32e l32f l16g o5l32c l32d l16e
l32d l32c o4l16a o5l32d l32e l16f l32e l32d o4l16g o5l16f l16e l16d l12c

Enjoy!



At 04:04 PM 19-04-1999 Monday -0400, you wrote:
>On 17 April Anand Rao wrote:
>
>     I have found this program the most aesthetically pleasing and useful
among
>     the various clock programs for the 200LX. Excellent software, Jorgen, and
>     many thanks.
>
>     In addition to the daily alarm I also use it to 'time out' meetings that
>     would otherwise drag on.
>
>
>I have been looking for alarm sounds to use in place of the built in ones.
>  I
>am especially looking for reveille.     I recall seeing it on a site some time
>ago but can't seem to locate again.    Does anyone have know where I can
>locate?
>
>Joe
>
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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:21:42 -0500
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On 04-19 11:07pm CDT, the following was written:

> How about this - It's a Small World After All ....

Hey Mitch..... how about a section on S.U.P.E.R. for alarm tunes? There
isn't already a section for that is there?

73 Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:43:31 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Leslie,

> Actually I was MOST interested in E-MAIL rather than the web.
>
> >just to get into the internet, not for any
> >other purpose...

I meant that. I meant use CIS' gateway to the internet so you can access your
email at whatever local ISP you have here...

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:52:49 -0500
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Sorry for the bandwidth, but Wally could you please send me the icon you
sent me this morning again. Thanks!

73 Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:43:33 -0700
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Subject:      Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions
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Stephan,

> That's not correct: On a Unix machine only the server should have read
> rights on the Perl script,
> because the .pl or .cgi extention is associated with perl. You cannot open
> such a perl script
> with an editor from outside, unless you have access with telnet to this
> directory. So you should
> not give read rights for the directory.

I think you mean exec rights only. Read rights mean that that I can read the
scripts into my machine...

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:43:38 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> Having written a 27000 line EDA program in Perl, I'll take a shot :-)

I'd say you know one or two things about Perl :) ...

> Perl 5.005 is the latest production version.  There is no 16 bit port
> of perl 4 that I know of.  Perl 5 added object oriented features (which

You mean a 16-bit perl 5 port?

> Nobody admits to using Perl 4 any more :-)

Oops! :)

> Perl can do anything :-)

Yes, I met her... :)

> There is an archive of perl modules called
> CPAN (Comprehensive Perl Archive Network) which has a module for just
> about everything (including one for working with HP200 GDB files).

Excellent.

> Perl is the best thing since sliced bread.  Don't let anyone tell you
> different.  Pity it's a bit to resource hungry to do major things on
> the palmtop.

I would like to know how you REALLY feel about Perl. You have been somewhat
indecisive sounding :) ...

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:43:41 -0700
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Bennett -

> 1999-04-17-22:13:39 A Meshar:
> > > Why not just release the source? everyone else does that and it certainly
> > > doesn't create havoc...
> >
> > Let's see: On the Webserver I have a database with all orders, including
> > credit cards, especially one from Laust :) ... I release the Perl script for
> > all to see exactly how to reach the database, passwords and all... Nah! I
> > think not a good idea, and I think it _will_ create havoc.
>
> If you were planning on releasing a machine language executable that contained
> the password and protocols for accessing your database with your credit card
> info, I hope you will reconsider that plan. It is _Really_ not a good idea.

I have no such plans, not to worry. I am only suggesting that releasing source
is really not a good idea. I would never include passwords in programs - that
is well, at least dumb... But various methodology would be tough to discern
from an executable vs. open source.

> > Another issue: The app I have in mind is to be distributed to people who can
> > easily hack their way into things if the know the doors. When I jeopardize
> > _other people's_ property by doing this, I think it creates havoc, and I won't
> > do it.
>
> So don't do it. If you can't release your code in perl source, don't release
> it in executable; there's no useful difference in security.

Really? You mean these programs can be retrofitted?

How do sites that have critical work do it in Perl? Or do they use Perl?

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:36:30 -0400
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Whatever happened to Al? I am missing his poetic posts.
-Geo.-

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:31:18 EDT
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Al,Thanks for forwarding it appropriately.As for the comment about Win CE,I
guess everyone has their own cross to bear in this life.I am looking forward
to the cut and thrust.   Neill.     P.S.  Do you know of anyone who would
sell me a HP 200 LX ? The acquisition of one of those might help to deflect
some of the comments !?!?

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:58:40 +0300
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              "Ernst, Yehuda" <yernst@NDSISRAEL.COM>
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will it work on all 200lx or I need to put Hebrew chip inside?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: A Meshar SMTP:sponsor@FTEL.NET
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 1999 8:39 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      Re: Hebrew on the HP
>
> Alan,
>
> On 100LX you should have same Keybez program as 200LX.
>
> Run Keybez He
>
> Then press CTRL and machine toggles to Hebrew. Also files
> are saved with cookie dates etc... :) ...
>
> I use Qtext2 in a SC WA. Works nicely... But I have to
> learn the kbd somehow...
>
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TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Peter W. Borders wrote:
> Also, I would hardly say that you can do less than
> you could with a casio from 8 years ago. Or are you saying that all
> those things listed could be done on an 8 year old casio WITHOUT a
> desktop machine?

Yes, but of course in a less flashy way. But frankly, I prefer being
able to enter umlauts to nice flashy icons. I seriously was able to use
the cheap Casio out of the box while I considered the WinCE gadget a
poor joke due to the lack of functionality. I also must admit that my
comparison was for WinCE 1.0. I have not seen 2.0, but also I have
hardly ever seen a MS product that was "improved" in an upgrade in many
more ways than increasing its size, making it slower and more buggy
(which might be a slight exaggeration :-)

> I have never understood the need to run down another system to make
> your favorite system look good.

Neither me. I was answering the question why people consider WinCE gadgets
desktop add-ons while the 200LX is considered a self-contained computer.
If that looks bad for the WinCE items, it must be your interpretation.

Thanks for your corrections BTW! At the time I had a look at the WinCE
stuff, there was no IrDA driver for Linux, so it was not possible to
exchange any data with any non-Windows system. Obviously, the *other side*
has found a way to "talk" to the WinCE gadgets then.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:20:17 +0100
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Davis Chapel wrote:
> Delurking here.  I am trying to set up POST/LX (version 2.2a) to use PGP
...
> All works except that when Post downloads an encrypted message, it seems to
> wrap the PGP messageID, so that the top looks like:
...
> Can anyone tell me why Post/LX does this?

Unless you mean the reformatting while *displaying* a message (which
can be toggled using ALT-F), POST/LX is *not* doing that. It leaves
messages as they are. So I would assume some server on the way of the
message reformats the message. What if you write text like

one
two
three

in a message? Does it get reformatted to one single line?

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Andrew Zarick <andymd@CWIX.COM> wrote:

> I'm am going to France the end of May and would like to use
> my HP to keep in touch with my family while there. Does
> anyone have a suggestion for a US based ISP with access numbers in
> France.

Check out http://www.ibm.net
See under registration and access numbers: they have access numbers in all
major cities.
Roaming charges will apply if you register in the U.S.; OTOH US fees are so
much lower.

Just a satisfied customer

Etienne
stelem@ibm.0net

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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
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Comments: To: CURRIE1234@aol.com

Neill Currie writes:
> Al,Thanks for forwarding it appropriately.As for the comment about Win CE,I
> guess everyone has their own cross to bear in this life.I am looking forward
<snip>

I've heard they make good paper weights. I've also heard you only get
about 1 1/2 to 2 hours of continueous battery life with the color CE,
is this true?

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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
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>
> Neither me. I was answering the question why people consider WinCE gadgets
> desktop add-ons while the 200LX is considered a self-contained computer.
> If that looks bad for the WinCE items, it must be your interpretation.

I've noticed that Pete gets a little edgey when people comment about
CE or Windows. He sees criticism as a personal attack on all that is
great and good, I guess<g>. The old M$ paranoia.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:41:06 +0200
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              Jacques Belin <listes2@ALTERN.ORG>
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From:         Jacques Belin <listes2@ALTERN.ORG>
Subject:      Re2: Internet Acess in France
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Le Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:06:44 -0700
Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM> =e9crivait:

> I just looked, Earthlink has a number in France.

I can verify, but I think this number is not a national "local-like"
number. Andrew don't tell us if he stays near Paris, or if he goes
elsewere. Long distance national calls are billed $0.19.

Remember that in France even local calls are charged
by time ($0.05) :-(

Jacques.
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Subject:      Re2: Internet Acess in France
Comments: To: Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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Le Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:14:59 GMT
Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM> =e9crivait:

> If you want cheap(ish) Net access
> while you're there (no POP3 email), try out France Explorer,
> a free program from France Telecom.

Not really free :-(  There is no subscription fee, but you have to pay a
very hight connection rate ($0.21/mn)


Jacques.
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"You have new mail" appeared on the screen...
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:40:43 +0200
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              "stephan.goeldi" <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
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I have some questions about the LX Infrared Port.

1 - How about IrdA compatibility? There is an IrdA driver on the super site, but it seems, that it is written especially for the redeye. Does it work with other IrdA-compatible stuff?

2 - If I have an IrdA-'receiver' like the redeye, can I use it to connect other parallel stuff like Zip drive etc.?

3 - Are there any experiences with the infrared port?

 TIA
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:25:26 +0200
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              Michael Hansen <handheld@POST.CYBERCITY.DK>
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> Davis Chapel wrote:
> > Delurking here.  I am trying to set up POST/LX (version 2.2a) to use =
PGP
> ...
> > All works except that when Post downloads an encrypted message, it =
seems to
> > wrap the PGP messageID, so that the top looks like:
> ...
> > Can anyone tell me why Post/LX does this?
>
> Unless you mean the reformatting while *displaying* a message (which
> can be toggled using ALT-F), POST/LX is *not* doing that. It leaves
> messages as they are. So I would assume some server on the way of the
> message reformats the message. What if you write text like
>
> one
> two
> three
>
> in a message? Does it get reformatted to one single line?
>
> Andreas

Hej Andreas

In my setup it's do.

When I veiw the message:

one
two
three

it's shown as one single line in Post/LX, but not in PE??


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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 05:28:58 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Smtpserv

I tested this on the 200LX and it works. All it does is recieve mail
though. Can it be expanded? An actual mail server on the 200LX.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:33:28 -0400
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From:         Bruce Francis <bfrancis@POBOX.COM>
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On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:21:42 -0500, Jeff Johns wrote:

>Hey Mitch..... how about a section on S.U.P.E.R. for alarm tunes? There
>isn't already a section for that is there?

Great idea!  .... seconded!



     ==> Bruce

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:46:51 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <199904201025.MAA20537@post.cybercity.dk> from "Michael Hansen"
              at Apr 20, 99 12:25:26 pm
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> > Unless you mean the reformatting while *displaying* a message (which
> > can be toggled using ALT-F), POST/LX is *not* doing that. It leaves
> > messages as they are. So I would assume some server on the way of the
> > message reformats the message. What if you write text like
> >
> > one
> > two
> > three
> >
> > in a message? Does it get reformatted to one single line?

> it's shown as one single line in Post/LX, but not in PE??

I thought I'd pipe up here with some experiences I've had in the past.
Large chunks, or even entire messages, would be blank when viewed in
Post, yet clearly visible in the external editor.  I sent one or two
examples to Avi at the time, but he didn't offer any explanation for
this behaviour.

-Chris

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:53:21 -0400
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              "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
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Not true in all cases. The newer units have very good battery life. the
software is limited in several areas but it is functional. I have done
reports and a lot of e-mail via Win CE. I will agree that there is a lot of
room for improvement but I can say that for the HP200LX also.

For various reasons I use both a HP200LX and a Jornada 820. Each has its
place and does a very good job. I have used the Jornada while on travel to
dial back to the office and via the Terminal Server (Citrix Meta Frame)
performed network functions and checked my Outlook 97 e-mail and calendar
functions. The long battery life (10 + hours) and lite weight (2.5 lbs.)
makes it a great travel unit.

I use the HP200LX for communicating via Cis and several other functions such
as packet communications via radio and off-line e-mail. I have even used it
to control a OptoCom scanner.

Each operating system has its pros and cons. No one has yet developed a
perfect system, but then again each person has their own idea on what is
perfect for them.

Stephen Souza
System Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
*mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Musielewicz SMTP:a123456@BITSTREAM.NET
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 21:11
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: My introductory email
>
> Neill Currie writes:
> > Al,Thanks for forwarding it appropriately.As for the comment about Win
> CE,I
> > guess everyone has their own cross to bear in this life.I am looking
> forward
> <snip>
>
> I've heard they make good paper weights. I've also heard you only get
> about 1 1/2 to 2 hours of continueous battery life with the color CE,
> is this true?
>
> John
>
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Subject:      Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions
Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@ftel.net>
In-Reply-To:  <199904200443.VAA29156@ftel.net>; from A Meshar on Mon, Apr 19,
              1999 at 09:43:41PM -0700
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1999-04-20-04:43:41 A Meshar:
> I am only suggesting that releasing source is really not a good idea.

Could be, for the kind of work you do. I don't do that kind of work. Perl is
not designed for that kind of work. If your work can't stand the light of day,
you probably better look for something other than perl to do it in.

> I would never include passwords in programs - that is well, at least dumb...

That was your example, not mine. I agree, it's terribly, terribly dumb.

> But various methodology would be tough to discern from an executable vs.
> open source.

I don't know quite what you mean by that.

> > So don't do it. If you can't release your code in perl source, don't release
> > it in executable; there's no useful difference in security.
>
> Really? You mean these programs can be retrofitted?

How do you mean "retrofitted"? Do you mean "reverse engineered", or perhaps
"decompiled"? If so, the answer is yup, programs for doing that were an old
hat when I was first starting with computers around 1980.

> How do sites that have critical work do it in Perl?

Sites do major critical work in perl all the time. They write the programs to
do what they need, in a suitable language; often that language is perl (with
modules added as needed to customize the language until it's a good fit for
the problem domain).

Then they release their programs, if that's what they want to do, or they
don't, if they don't. It's really quite simple.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:55:59 +0200
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              Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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I am currently engaged in a heated newsgroup argument in Norway (on a Linux
newsgroup)
about the meaning of the term Re: as seen in the subject line of this
message for example.
I have always thought that it followed the old legal jargon, (latin based)
and meant roughly Regarding, whereas it seems recent usage (RFC's etc)
would have it mean something  Reply.
I know you as a knowledgeable and vocal lot, so how about it? What does
those two letters mean to y'all??

Eagerly awaiting a re:
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:26:39 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 04-20 05:55am CDT, the following was written:

> I know you as a knowledgeable and vocal lot, so how about it? What does
> those two letters mean to y'all??

RE = Regarding?

73 Jeff

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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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John Musielewicz wrote:
...
> I've heard they make good paper weights. I've also heard you only get
> about 1 1/2 to 2 hours of continueous battery life with the color CE,
> is this true?

I got more than a year of continuous use with a pair of alkaline
batteries, but this is for the 300LX, which is not colour.
And yes, my 300LX serves me very well as a paper weight ;-)

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:29:38 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Michael Hansen wrote:
...
> When I veiw the message:
>
> one
> two
> three
>
> it's shown as one single line in Post/LX, but not in PE??

Press ALT-F and it will not be reformatted for *display*.  When you do
"Save As" from the message display, it will be stored as displayed,
i.e. reformatted if reformatting is enabled.  In the editor, the
messages does not get reformatted.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:35:41 -0700
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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reference?

At 08:26 AM 4/20/99 -0500, you wrote:
>On 04-20 05:55am CDT, the following was written:
>
>> I know you as a knowledgeable and vocal lot, so how about it? What does
>> those two letters mean to y'all??

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              systemsconsulting@CSI.COM
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Subject:      Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!)
Comments: To: Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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I think that regarding is still the most appropriate. The assumption that
anything with re: in the subject is a reply may not be valid. I might be
adding to the subject without replying to the message I was reading. My
information will be "regarding" the subject at hand.


Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> mailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of Paal Rasmussen
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 6:56 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!)
>
>
> I am currently engaged in a heated newsgroup argument in Norway
> (on a Linux
> newsgroup)
> about the meaning of the term Re: as seen in the subject line of this
> message for example.
> I have always thought that it followed the old legal jargon, (latin based)
> and meant roughly Regarding, whereas it seems recent usage (RFC's etc)
> would have it mean something  Reply.
> I know you as a knowledgeable and vocal lot, so how about it? What does
> those two letters mean to y'all??
>
> Eagerly awaiting a re:
> Paul Rasmussen
>
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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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> Stefan Peichl

> The reason is that LXMAP does not support paths. Until now I
> didn't find a simple solution to implement path support into
> my assembler programs. AFAIK there is no DOS function allowing
> to only handle over a filename and let the function search the
> path in order to find the file. On higher level languages, such
> functions exist, but not on the DOS function level.

> Any suggestions appreciated.

Hi,

     The DOS APPEND command is supposed to
address that concern.  If it is loaded, you
can search in a specified directory for data
files.  I have not had too much luck with it
though.  The following shows how it is supposed
to work.

append c:\      ; put c:\ in the search path
a:              ; go to the A: drive
type config.sys ; this types out c:\config.sys (if no a:config.sys?)

    Ralf Brown's interrupt list mentions when
APPEND affects DOS calls.  It also has discussion
of specific APPEND related calls for INT 2F.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:48:45 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Comments: To: Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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It "should" meaning "regarding."   That is how it is used in normal business correspondence.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:51:02 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <199904201316.PAA11943@d1o203.telia.com> from "Paal Rasmussen" at
              Apr 20, 99 12:55:59 pm
Content-Type: text

> I know you as a knowledgeable and vocal lot, so how about it? What does
> those two letters mean to y'all??

To me... they mean REGARDING


-Chris

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:52:56 +0200
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Hi,

> I have always thought that it followed the old legal jargon, (latin
based)
> and meant roughly Regarding, whereas it seems recent usage (RFC's etc)
> would have it mean something  Reply.

I am sure it it means reply. using a latin "re" in a subject line would
be redundant and hence not make sense.

Reinhard

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:50:09 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Dosamatic

Has anyone tried dosamatic from the SUPER site? I can't seem
to get the switching function (alt+f10) to work.

John

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:38:02 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: My introductory email

Souza, Mr Stephen writes:
> Not true in all cases. The newer units have very good battery life. the
> software is limited in several areas but it is functional. I have done

Are you sure thats continous--without the unit ever shutting off?
I was told by a user of the Jourda 420 he only gets 2 hours continous
use. I told him I get about 15+ hours continous and he was AMAZED! Do
they use AA or any other easily obtainable battery?

John

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:51:42 +0200
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<snip>

Reply

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:03:41 +0300
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              Juha Husgafvel <hysky@TUUG.ORG>
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Hello!

My first try at Outlook to HPLX export can be found at:
http://www.tuug.org/~hysky
ol2lx.0-1.zip, under 130K.

This is an early beta so please make backups!!!

It should export Outlook Calendar and Task information to
HP Appointment book format.

You will probably need IE4 installed to use it, I'm not
sure if this is mandatory for Outlook?

Bug reports etc. to: hysky@tuug.org

Bye,
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Have you tried McSquared, the pure-energy fast food?
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:08:41 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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From:         Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
Subject:      Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I've always considered RE: to mean Regarding.  Often you are not
_Replying_ to a question in the message. Sometimes you are adding
another question or comment _Regarding_ the subject.

In practice, I don't even think about RE meaning Reply or Regarding.
Whenever I see RE, I just know that it a continuation of a subject
thread.

Steve

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:12:30 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
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From:         "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: My introductory email
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I can not say 10 hours continuous. I have gone for over 6 hours in one
operation. Then next day without re-charge gone another 4 hours. normally I
use it for 1 - 3 hours per day and re-charge once a week. Yes there is a
replacement battery that is spec'ed to give 15 hours but have not yet seen a
need to get it. This includes use of a network card or internal modem.

Stephen Souza
System Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
*mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Musielewicz SMTP:a123456@BITSTREAM.NET
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 02:38
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: My introductory email
>
> Souza, Mr Stephen writes:
> > Not true in all cases. The newer units have very good battery life. the
> > software is limited in several areas but it is functional. I have done
>
> Are you sure thats continous--without the unit ever shutting off?
> I was told by a user of the Jourda 420 he only gets 2 hours continous
> use. I told him I get about 15+ hours continous and he was AMAZED! Do
> they use AA or any other easily obtainable battery?
>
> John
>
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:13:38 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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From:         "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Snake Icon
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Here's my try at a Snake icon...

begin 644 snake.icn
M`0`!`"P`(`#_______"(0A"$(1"<YSG.<Y"?_____Y"P`````-#P`````/"P
M`````-"0`````)"0`````)"P`````-#P`````/"P`````-"1TX```)"297__
M_Y"T*#G.<Y#T*!"$(1"R97____"1TX````"0``````"P``````#Q%Z7E0"Q
M!E*4%0"1!5*D%0"15'%0"P%-*D%0#P%-*4``"Q%*7E0"0``````"?____
4_P"YSG.<YX"0A"$(0H#______P``
`
end

Are those 8 lines considered bad list etiquette? Oh well, I have a small sig
line. :)
--
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SUPER Team

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:26:48 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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From:         Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fluff: Backlit LX...
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> BTW, one of my thermo professors stated the second law as follows:
> "You can't shove dung up a cow's rear and get hay out its mouth."

My professor described the three Laws of Thermodynamics as:
1. You can't win.
2. You can't break even.
3. You can't get out of the game.

Bruce in Toronto

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:27:23 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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From:         Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>
Subject:      International telephone and AC adapters
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

FYI, there are comprehensive databases of the different telephone and AC adapter
standards by country at:

http://kropla.com/

Also included are TV stanndards,  international dialing codes and a lot of other
 useful information.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:35:30 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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From:         David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Re: `Re:' (Fluff - but serious fluff!)
Comments: To: Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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This one suprises me. The dictionary says that `in re' means
`concerning'. I think it's used that way in the law, and I've always
assumed that `Re:' (in any context) is a simple abbreviation for
`In Re:'

In this context, I suppose, other alternatives could have been adopted,
but I assumed that early EMail/UseNet practice just adopted a common
business convention.

Paal Rasmussen wrote:
>
> I am currently engaged in a heated newsgroup argument in Norway (on a Linux
> newsgroup)
> about the meaning of the term Re: as seen in the subject line of this
> message for example.
> I have always thought that it followed the old legal jargon, (latin based)
> and meant roughly Regarding, whereas it seems recent usage (RFC's etc)
> would have it mean something  Reply.
> I know you as a knowledgeable and vocal lot, so how about it? What does
> those two letters mean to y'all??
>
> Eagerly awaiting a re:
> Paul Rasmussen
>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:46:43 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: My introductory email
In-Reply-To:  <1600371565F5D2119ADA00A0C91EA95C03B92B@cnslsvr4.exchg.cnsl.spear.navy.mil> from "Souza,
              Mr Stephen" at Apr 20, 99 10:12:30 am
Content-Type: text

> I can not say 10 hours continuous. I have gone for over 6 hours in one
> operation.

I noted an earlier post today where one fellow claimed *one year* of
use from a single pair of batteries - when functioning in it's best
capacity: as a paperweight!

-Chris

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Huntsville, Alabama
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:54:48 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Snake Icon
In-Reply-To:  <19990420101338.A1684@palmtop.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) wrote:

> Here's my try at a Snake icon...
> Are those 8 lines considered bad list etiquette? Oh well, I have a
> small sig line. :)

You know, I wonder how the constant 200-byte size of 200LX .icn files
compares to the size of Windows icons.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:57:31 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: My introductory email
In-Reply-To:  <199904201329.PAA24706@if0010.swisslife.ch>
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> I got more than a year of continuous use with a pair of alkaline
> batteries, but this is for the 300LX, which is not colour. And yes, my
> 300LX serves me very well as a paper weight ;-)

You now have the only paperweight that uses batteries at the rate of one
year per pair.  <g>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:12:57 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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From:         Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
Subject:      Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Paal Rasmussen wrote:
> I am currently engaged in a heated newsgroup argument in Norway (on a Linux
> newsgroup)
> about the meaning of the term Re: as seen in the subject line of this
> message for example.
> I have always thought that it followed the old legal jargon, (latin based)
> and meant roughly Regarding, whereas it seems recent usage (RFC's etc)
> would have it mean something  Reply.
> I know you as a knowledgeable and vocal lot, so how about it? What does
> those two letters mean to y'all??

I am not an authority in that matter, but here is what I think it is:
Re: means "Regarding" and is used in replies, i.e. if the original
message was "foo", the reply to it - the reply regarding "foo" - is
named "Re: foo". Most email clients automatically prepend "Re: " to a
message subject when you are replying. Similarly, many clients prepend
the subject with "Fwd: " when forwarding.

So I believe it *means* "regarding" and is *used* for "replying to".

Andreas

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:24:58 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Snake Icon
Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Nice job Mitch..

You've either got a talent for doing these or too much time on your hands <g>.

- Longden





"Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET> on 04/20/99 07:13:38 AM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
      to "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)

Subject:  Snake Icon




Here's my try at a Snake icon...

begin 644 snake.icn

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:37:22 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
Subject:      Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

It's a Microsoft-ism meaning Reply.  The proof is in this test.  Open an
original post select the Reply icon, button, or what have you.  Input, send,
and wait.  Identify your input and observe the addition to the topic, placed
there by M$ (ok, yes a lot of mail and news programs, not M$ do it also :).
It must mean "Reply".  I just think of it as "not the original post".

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paal Rasmussen SMTP:paal@AH.TELIA.NO
>
> about the meaning of the term Re: as seen in the subject line of this
> message for example.
>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:39:46 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Alarm Sound fluff
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

I have heard this Small World "music"(?)  It will make you barf. :)

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anand Rao SMTP:slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET
>
> How about this - It's a Small World After All ....
>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:44:25 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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From:         Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
Subject:      Re: My introductory email
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MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

> And yes, my 300LX serves me very well as a paper weight ;-)

I used to use my 320LX as an alarm clock, before I sold it.  <g>

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN.  It's like riding a
rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway!

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:51:55 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

Windows Icons are bigger and uglier. :)

An Icon related question...
Is it possible to write a program ( <knuckles dragging...> me not
programmer, me user) that creates _all_ possible Icons?  I imagine that
allowing for the width and height (44 x 32) of an HP Icon, the permutations
would come to something like 78,962,960,182,680.7 (find that with your CE
palmtop }:)  Allowing for most of them to be "junk" there would be a number
of them left as useful.  If the members of the list all had this program and
a method for "assigning" a range of result Icons to each member was
arranged, we could arrive at and compile a book, or database of every useful
Icon available.  Any one up to this? :)

We could use IPEX and the palmtop database application, and SUPER as a
repository. (that will probably get a snicker from someone... "you want to
use up my HD space for what?!? :)

I figure I'm good for about 100,000 or so this year. :)

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sargeant SMTP:david@HPLX.NET
>
> You know, I wonder how the constant 200-byte size of 200LX .icn files
> compares to the size of Windows icons.
>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:07:44 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff.
In-Reply-To:  <199904201551.KAA11150@sdds0.pagenet.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Phil Drummond wrote:

> Is it possible to write a program ( <knuckles dragging...> me not
> programmer, me user) that creates _all_ possible Icons?  I imagine
> that allowing for the width and height (44 x 32) of an HP Icon, the
> permutations would come to something like 78,962,960,182,680.7
>
> I figure I'm good for about 100,000 or so this year. :)

Hmmm... if we have a million palmtop users (a ridiculous overestimate)
doing 100,000 a year (which is nearly 2,000 a week, or maybe 275 a day),
it will only take us... 789 years to get through all 78.9 trillion icons.

Okay, I'm game!  <g>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:02:32 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
Subject:      Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff.
In-Reply-To:  <199904201551.KAA11150@sdds0.pagenet.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Phil Drummond wrote:

> Windows Icons are bigger and uglier. :)
>
> An Icon related question...
> Is it possible to write a program ( <knuckles dragging...> me not
> programmer, me user) that creates _all_ possible Icons?  I imagine that
> allowing for the width and height (44 x 32) of an HP Icon, the permutations
> would come to something like 78,962,960,182,680.7 (find that with your CE
> palmtop }:)  Allowing for most of them to be "junk" there would be a number
> of them left as useful.  If the members of the list all had this program and
> a method for "assigning" a range of result Icons to each member was
> arranged, we could arrive at and compile a book, or database of every useful
> Icon available.  Any one up to this? :)

How did you come up with that number and isn't "permutations" incorrect?
Given that the icons are 44x32 in 2 colours, the total number of
combinations would be:

2(32*44) = approx. 7,0832716*10423

A somewhat larger number than the one you suggested.


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:08:45 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

Ouch, this is starting to sound like one of those "1,000 monkeys, 1,000
typewriters..." jokes.  Perhaps a really good programmer could write a
program to evaluate the "likeliness" of an Icon and present only the likely
candidates for selection by a human judge.  (ok, I'm going to get some
coffee, I'll be ok in a minute. :)

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sargeant SMTP:david@HPLX.NET
>
> Hmmm... if we have a million palmtop users (a ridiculous overestimate)
> doing 100,000 a year (which is nearly 2,000 a week, or maybe 275 a day),
> it will only take us... 789 years to get through all 78.9 trillion icons.
>
> Okay, I'm game!  <g>
>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:18:59 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff.
In-Reply-To:  <199904201608.LAA25695@sdds0.pagenet.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Phil Drummond wrote:

> Ouch, this is starting to sound like one of those "1,000 monkeys,
> 1,000 typewriters..." jokes.  Perhaps a really good programmer could
> write a program to evaluate the "likeliness" of an Icon and present
> only the likely candidates for selection by a human judge.  (ok, I'm
> going to get some coffee, I'll be ok in a minute. :)

You sure you haven't already had too much coffee?  <g>

Well, one thing we can be sure of.  The 200LX will last for 789 years, no
problem.  <g>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:11:33 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: My introductory email

Souza, Mr Stephen writes:
> I can not say 10 hours continuous. I have gone for over 6 hours in one
> operation. Then next day without re-charge gone another 4 hours. normally I

Do you know the mAh and voltage rating of the battery you use in the 820?
Also do you know what type--li-ion or nimh?

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:13:53 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

Don't do that!  Now we need a lot more users!  You are right of course, I
did the simple math without actually thinking about the real solution.  When
I got 78.9 trillion, I knew it was a hopeless idea. :)

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laust Brock-Nannestad SMTP:di980769@DIKU.DK
>
> How did you come up with that number and isn't "permutations" incorrect?
> Given that the icons are 44x32 in 2 colours, the total number of
> combinations would be:
>
> 2(32*44) = approx. 7,0832716*10423
>
> A somewhat larger number than the one you suggested.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laust
>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:29:32 -0400
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              "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
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It is a Li-ion.  7.2 volt at 3.2AH.



Stephen Souza
System Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
*mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Musielewicz SMTP:a123456@BITSTREAM.NET
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 05:12
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: My introductory email
>
> Souza, Mr Stephen writes:
> > I can not say 10 hours continuous. I have gone for over 6 hours in one
> > operation. Then next day without re-charge gone another 4 hours.
> normally I
>
> Do you know the mAh and voltage rating of the battery you use in the 820?
> Also do you know what type--li-ion or nimh?
>
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:32:19 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Has anyone found a program that would let you easily cut and paste
(C&P)
between Software Carousel (SC) sessions like the earlier non-palmtop SC
versions?>>

The best (workable but clumsy) solution is CLIPVUE found on SUPER -
www.palmtop.net.

<<If not, perhaps the SC authors could modify the earlier C&P code to
give us
that capability?  The C&P program could either be included with SC or
sold
as an optional add-on.>>

I have talked to the authors about cut and paste. Unfortunately, this
would be a VERY expensive update.  I think Avi may know more of the
details, but the PC version does support cut and paste.  However, the
authors apparently had to remove this feature to gain other Palmtop
functionality when they ported the application to the palmtop.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:45:54 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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David Sargeant wrote:
> You now have the only paperweight that uses batteries at the rate of one
> year per pair.  <g>

I don't think this is a fair statement. It *still* serves as a battery
weight using the same pair of batteries and maybe it will still work in
a few months, so it is too earily to make a final statement about the
actual battery life :-)

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:54:32 -0700
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> I don't think this is a fair statement. It *still* serves as a battery
> weight using the same pair of batteries and maybe it will still work
> in a few months, so it is too earily to make a final statement about
> the actual battery life :-)

You're right.  I was hasty.  Please forgive me.  I will go reinstall the
backlight and touch-screen in my 320LX as penance.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:49:10 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff.

Were you able to use HP Calc? I kept getting an overflow.

Phil Drummond writes:
> Don't do that!  Now we need a lot more users!  You are right of course, I
> did the simple math without actually thinking about the real solution.  When
> I got 78.9 trillion, I knew it was a hopeless idea. :)
>
> Phil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Laust Brock-Nannestad SMTP:di980769@DIKU.DK
> >
> > How did you come up with that number and isn't "permutations" incorrect?
> > Given that the icons are 44x32 in 2 colours, the total number of
> > combinations would be:
> >
> > 2(32*44) = approx. 7,0832716*10423
> >
> > A somewhat larger number than the one you suggested.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Laust
> >
>
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:21:43 -0500
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              Larry N Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!)

This is really putting the cart before the horse.

Microsoft did not "invent" business correspondence (havn't mastered it
either if you are following the anit-trust litigation).  Microsoft didn't
even "invent" e-mail so RE could hardly be a microsoft-ism except under
the most imaginative of revisionist history.

Re is a shortened form of the Latin "In Re" meaning "In the affair; in
the matter of; concerning; regarding."  Such usage is still common in
virtually all legal correspondance of a formal nature and informally in
normal correspondance as Re.  Non-legal professions adopted it as well
with the same intended meaning.  The business usage, though perhaps not
understood (programmers are kind of socially backward right;-)), was
surely imported over to email correspondence just like Cc (carbon copy)
and Bcc (blind carbon copy).  Cc and Bcc, by the way, also pre-date
Microsoft.

So, when you see a letter with a subject line of "Re: the American
President", the intent of the sender is likely a discussion "In the
affair of the American President" rather than "A reply to the American
President" though the message may be that too.

Larry Zimmerman


On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:37:22 -0500 Phil Drummond
<phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM> writes:
>It's a Microsoft-ism meaning Reply.  The proof is in this test.  Open
>an
>original post select the Reply icon, button, or what have you.  Input,
>send,
>and wait.  Identify your input and observe the addition to the topic,
>placed
>there by M$ (ok, yes a lot of mail and news programs, not M$ do it
>also :).
>It must mean "Reply".  I just think of it as "not the original post".
>
>Phil

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:58:35 +0200
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Subject:      Re: My introductory email

Wow!! It uses approximately 320 mA per hour compared to the 200 which
uses about 60. The color really uses power. Does it have a type III slot
for a pcmcia harddrive?


Souza, Mr Stephen writes:
> It is a Li-ion.  7.2 volt at 3.2AH.
>
>
>
> Stephen Souza
> System Administrator
> COMNAVSURFLANT
> *TEL: (757) 836-3204
> *DSN:  836-3204
> *mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Musielewicz SMTP:a123456@BITSTREAM.NET
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 05:12
> > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject:      Re: My introductory email
> >
> > Souza, Mr Stephen writes:
> > > I can not say 10 hours continuous. I have gone for over 6 hours in one
> > > operation. Then next day without re-charge gone another 4 hours.
> > normally I
> >
> > Do you know the mAh and voltage rating of the battery you use in the 820?
> > Also do you know what type--li-ion or nimh?
> >
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:36:07 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      success with my personal project

Hi All,

Many have asked me to let everyone on this list know of my personal hot
sync project's progress and it's results. I'm now reporting success with
major part of my personal project.

My plan was to set my HP200LX up as a fully functioning serially
connected node on the unique proprietary network that I'm running in my
home office. After accomplishing that, my plan was to use freeware
util(s) in simple batch file to handle the hot syncing and make it
launchable with a shortcut on one of my Windows 95 desktops.

My goal was to hot sync the DOS directories of the DOS programs I'm using
on the HP200LX with those same program directories on my main desktop
computer. This method would sync whole data files, but would not sync all
individual records within those data files if data files were changed on
both the desktop computer and my HP200LX since the last hot sync. That
limitation did not pose a problem for my purposes.

I then planned to jury rig a Station 100 base shell and/or plugs so the
Station 100 base shell would snuggly hold the standard power plug and
serial plug for the HP200LX. Upon accomplishing that, I planned to use
that base as a quick slide-in connection for network operations, hot
syncing, palmtop backups and for using my HP200LX at home on A/C.

I'm reporting success in setting up my HP200LX as a fully functioning
node on my  network and I've used the freeware "Synchronize Disks"
(Update) DOS utility from SUPER for simple hot sync operations.

I'll next include my palmtop drives and directories into my automated
backup system so my HP200LX will be backed up to optical disk every early
morn.

Next I plan to start working on jury rigging the Station 100 base shell.
I'll let you know how that part of my project works out.

I hope this info will be helpful to some on this list.


Info on the Station 100 base shell:

I've purchased a Station 100 base shell for $14 including S/H and plan to
whittle down the HP200LX serial plug casing so it will fit snuggly into
the Station 100 base shell, as soon as I can get my hands on an extra
cable in case I accidentally cut a wire while whittling the plug down.
The standard power plug for the HP200LX already fits into that base shell
with no modification at all.

The Station 100 base shell (which is no longer in production) was
originally made to use a short cable a HP200LX serial plug on one end and
a standard serial plug receptacle on the other end, with a standard
serial plug receptacle offered on the back of the base for an easy
standard serial cable connection. I plan to whittle down the HP200LX
serial plug on a standard HP200LX serial connection cable so it will fit
into the base and run the other end of the cable directly out the back of
the base for direct connection to a Desktop.

The source for those old shells claims to have around 40 others in their
back room gathering dust.


Info on the unique network software that I'm using:

The unique proprietary network software that I'm using is called Little
Big Lan, which works at the DOS level and simply tricks Windows into
thinking that network drives are local. Regular DOS commands work across
the network and a site license costs $75. (Yep, you got that right... no
per node license needed.).

This network software works great with DOS, Win 3.X, Win 95 and Windows
98 nodes. it might even work in a DOS box on a Win NT machine, but I have
no way to verify that.

The only problem that I haven't been able to solve with this lan software
is that since Windows had no knowledge that a network was even is
running, upon installation of a network card, Windows 95 automatically
recognizes it and insists upon installing it's own network drivers. The
only solution I could think of was to unload those drivers so that the
Windows device manager would report the network card as not operating
correctly and leave it at that.

Windows device manager currently reports that my network cards have a
problem, but my network works just fine, thank you very much. ;-)

If I were to let Windows 95 load it's own internet networking drivers,
they would kill my network, so I'm using the Windows 3.11 version of my
internet access software as a work-around.

If anyone would like to know more about this network software that will
run on a HP200LX, just let me know and I'll post were to find the website
that offers LBL network software information.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:19:23 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff.
In-Reply-To:  <199904201551.KAA11150@sdds0.pagenet.com>; from Phil Drummond on
              Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 10:51:55AM -0500
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I see where you're going with this, but I do think it is the 1,000 monkeys
thing as stated already.

But, I have for a long time wondered how we could do a great icon repository
for the 200LX to reside on palmtop.net or other palmtop-friendly place.
Preliminary specifications would be:

1) icons can be uploaded by anyone using a web-based form
2) icons are categorized roughly along the same 24 SUPER categories
3) pages are built dynamically
4) dynamic pages consist of an icon array imagemap (sorry HV users)
5) array imagemap graphics can be downloaded for reference on the LX

I would use a resource like this a lot as I hate going back and looking for
icons to meet a certain purpose.

I have not been able to think of an HV friendly way to do this. The original
SUPER pages showed the icons of each app, but the image buffer of HV filled up
immediately and it was slow as molasses. Andit was a hassle to have an icon for
each app. :)

I think most of those specs can be met with clever perling, but I don't know if
ICN files can be translated over to a GIF or JPG to build the dynamic imagemap.

Any thoughts on this (public or private) would be welcome.
--
Mitch
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:14:02 -0400
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              riley <riley@IGLOU.COM>
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*FS* megahertz 14,400 pocket modem $23 or trade for flash card.
thanks
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:23:44 -0400
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I've been posting this to HPHAND without any reply so I try
it here now.

I had a crash recently on my 8meg DS HP200LX running with
SSC7 and buddy. I had to reinstall from scratch and from my
backups and everything is working well again except alarm in
AppMgr.

The try-out function in the AppMgr menu works. If I set an
alarm it does not work however. Silence in AppMgr as well as
Alt+Q in buddy are unchecked. SSC7 is supposed to turn the
machine back to AppMgr if an alarm occurs - it does not work.

Did I miss out on anything ?

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:37:02 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

> Pushkeys is a hidden file in the D:\bin directory on US Palmtops only.

Don't agree:
It's also a hidden file in d:\bin on my German 4MB 200LX!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:37:06 GMT
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Hi list,

A friend of mine has the following problem:

He has got a physics book in HTML format
(one chapter = one HTML)
and he wants to use HV as a reader for the book.
The problem is, that he wants to store the book
on a 48 MB CF card, but that doesn't fit, except
that the HTMLs are zipped.
He tried to use Jam and Stacker, but bothing of
these shrink the files enough.
He tried to use PKZIP and then it fitted!

My question:
Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must
unzip a html before loading it (if the html is
called by a link _or_ by input of a file name)?

I imagine the file could be unzipped, stored as tmporary file
and after loading a new file in HV it could be deleted
(replaced by the new unzipped file).

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:37:09 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi list and David,

Software Carousel:
> It will work with a swap file on the flash card, but much more slowly than
> with a swap file on the RAM drive.  If you set it up that way, and then
> try to switch sessions with the flash card out, you'll basically crash
> harder than an F-16 plowing into the side of Mount Everest.

Is there a possibility to "lock" the hotkeys of SC while
the flash card (where my SC swap file is stored) is removed
or replaced by the PCMCIA modem and unlock them after
reinserting it?
And if there's a possibility for the hotkeys, is there also one
for the blue app-keys which switch to WA1 (SysMgr)?

GtX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:47:19 -0400
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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> Date:    Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:40:01 -0500
> From:    Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
> Subject: Another Icon
>
> Can any of the icon artists on the list make me an icon that
looks like a
> telegraph key? I have tried to draw one, but I'm definately not
an artist
> and what I came up with was quite strange looking <g>.
>
Some of the telegraph keys out there are quite strange looking .
. . so what's the problem?

Jon

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:23:42 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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I think there is a driver for the alarm when using a double speed 200LX.
Check your paperwork from the upgrade supplier.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hans Peter Staber SMTP:hpstaber@CSI.COM
>
> I had a crash recently on my 8meg DS HP200LX running with
> SSC7 and buddy. I had to reinstall from scratch and from my
> backups and everything is working well again except alarm in
> AppMgr.
>
> HP Staber/Salzburg
>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:11:57 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Andreas Garzotto wrote:
> I don't think this is a fair statement. It *still* serves as a battery
> weight

"Paper weight" I meant, of course.

Andreas

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:12:01 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must
> unzip a html before loading it

It might be easier to start at a different place: The file could be
named something like xxx.HTZ and the HTZ extension could be linked
(using PNS200 or X-Finder or ...) to a BAT file that unzips the file,
opens it in HV, then deletes the file.

Untested, but it should work.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:11:59 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Hans Peter Staber wrote:
> I had a crash recently on my 8meg DS HP200LX running with
> SSC7 and buddy. I had to reinstall from scratch and from my
> backups and everything is working well again except alarm in
> AppMgr.

There is a hidden file named ALARM.Q (in _DAT). It may be corrupted. If
you delete it, the problem may go away.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:01:47 -0500
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              Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM>
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I don't know about pkzip but if you use the compression program RAR (dos
version) you can define a default program to read compressed files on
the fly.  I use List all the time for this.  RAR works with .zip files,
too.

Terry



> My question:
> Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must
> unzip a html before loading it (if the html is
> called by a link _or_ by input of a file name)?
>
> I imagine the file could be unzipped, stored as tmporary file
> and after loading a new file in HV it could be deleted
> (replaced by the new unzipped file).
>
>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:44:37 -0500
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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Gotta hurry and get this out--I suspect this flurry of
activity is pushing us near the list limit!  :)


On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Larry N Zimmerman wrote:

> Re is a shortened form of the Latin "In Re" meaning "In the affair; in
> the matter of; concerning; regarding."

My Merriam Webster's 10th Collegiate supports this etymology,
and gives the definition of "re" as "with regard to."

The MW Collegiate 10th is a good-sized abridgement of their
3rd International--generally regarded as the authority on
English language usage in the United States.

Ted

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:58:42 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: HV question

Why not use something like file mavern and select HV as your
editor. It will unzip the file so HV can read it.

Daniel Hertrich writes:
> Hi list,
>
> A friend of mine has the following problem:
>
> He has got a physics book in HTML format
> (one chapter = one HTML)
> and he wants to use HV as a reader for the book.
> The problem is, that he wants to store the book
> on a 48 MB CF card, but that doesn't fit, except
> that the HTMLs are zipped.
> He tried to use Jam and Stacker, but bothing of
> these shrink the files enough.
> He tried to use PKZIP and then it fitted!
>
> My question:
> Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must
> unzip a html before loading it (if the html is
> called by a link _or_ by input of a file name)?
>
> I imagine the file could be unzipped, stored as tmporary file
> and after loading a new file in HV it could be deleted
> (replaced by the new unzipped file).
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
> -------------------------------------------------
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> Germany
> email: d.hertrich@gmx.de
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>
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> My question: Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must unzip a
> html before loading it (if the html is called by a link _or_ by input
> of a file name)?

I know X-Finder can unzip files on-demand and then open them up in the
proper application.  I'll let one of the resident X-Finder experts say
whether or not this would work...

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:38:17 -0500
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On 04-20 12:47pm CDT, the following was written:

> Some of the telegraph keys out there are quite strange looking .
> . . so what's the problem?

I have yet to see any key or paddle that didn't look absolutely beautiful to
me <grin>. Long live CW!

72/73 Jeff W4JEF

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:28:51 +0200
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              Daniel McDonough <dmcdcb@BUNT.COM>
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I've been a lurker here for just a short while, but I feel we have =
bigger problems than WinCE.  I hope someone from HP follows this list.

First, WinCE is not that bad. I have a 360LX and I do use it for more =
than just a paperweight. Mainly because of the backlight. I don't use it =
more often because it is just a little too big to "thumb type" like I do =
with my 200LX. Battery life hasn't been an issue for me. However, I am =
disappointed in it because it doesn't have the old HP superiority.

When I first played with an HP-35 calculator, I was blown away. It was =
amazing. There wasn't anything like it for years. Then I got an HP-65. =
It was light years ahead of the competition. Same thing for my HP-41C. =
No one ever matched the number and variety of the hardware add-ons you =
could get. When I got my HP-95, I scoffed at the poor saps who had to =
make the 1000yd dash through the airport with a 15lb computer that =
wasn't any more powerful than what I carried in my pocket. I upgraded to =
the HP-200LX when the paint started to wear off the keys on my '95. (All =
my HP calculators had injection molded keys, the symbols would never =
wear off.)

Then I got the HP-360LX. The latest and greatest product in the palmtop =
computer line. It has a backlight! Wonderful! But wait...
Where is the Calculator?
Where is the Database?
Where are the tools so that I can write programs on this thing?

What happened to Hewlett-Packard? The 360 doesn't have any superior =
technology when compared to the WinCE competition. Better materials and =
construction, maybe, but no *new* technology.

So here I am, using two palmtop computers from the same company because =
each one has features that I use. Will HP ever produce a product that =
will be a true upgrade for the 200? Something that will let me put it on =
the shelf and never need to bring it back from retirement? I'm afraid =
not. HP has become a "me too" producer of computer products.

They have lost the vision. Today I mourn.

Daniel McDonough

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:57:37 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:23:44 -0400, Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@CSI.COM> =
wrote:

> I've been posting this to HPHAND without any reply so I try
> it here now.
>
> I had a crash recently on my 8meg DS HP200LX running with
> SSC7 and buddy. I had to reinstall from scratch and from my
> backups and everything is working well again except alarm in
> AppMgr.
>
> The try-out function in the AppMgr menu works. If I set an
> alarm it does not work however. Silence in AppMgr as well as
> Alt+Q in buddy are unchecked. SSC7 is supposed to turn the
> machine back to AppMgr if an alarm occurs - it does not work.
>
> Did I miss out on anything ?
>

Hi HP Staber/Salzburg & List Members

Try running Scconfig, Personal Preference Items, Return To Pre-alarm
Work Area and put: Yes

HTH


Regards,

Qman...

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:57:35 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:37:06 GMT, Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> =
wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> A friend of mine has the following problem:
>
> He has got a physics book in HTML format
> (one chapter =3D one HTML)
> and he wants to use HV as a reader for the book.
> The problem is, that he wants to store the book
> on a 48 MB CF card, but that doesn't fit, except
> that the HTMLs are zipped.
> He tried to use Jam and Stacker, but bothing of
> these shrink the files enough.
> He tried to use PKZIP and then it fitted!
>
> My question:
> Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must
> unzip a html before loading it (if the html is
> called by a link _or_ by input of a file name)?
>
> I imagine the file could be unzipped, stored as tmporary file
> and after loading a new file in HV it could be deleted
> (replaced by the new unzipped file).

Hi Daniel & List Members

X-Finder can handle this.
Just add the follow line to your finder.env under
"Execute by matched extension":

.htm ,f ,hv %c

Here is how it will work in X-Finder click on the .zip file and
X-Finder will open it, then click on the htm file that you want to
view. X-Finder will then pkunzip it and run HV to view the file.

HTH


Regards,

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:53:24 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<I think there is a driver for the alarm when using a double speed
200LX.
Check your paperwork from the upgrade supplier.>>

The file is spdalrm.tsr.  However, what that does is undoublespeed the
alarm so it plays at normal mode.

Hopefully, Andreas' suggestion of deleting hidden alarm.q will help
Hans.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:00:30 -0500
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              Alchemist <driden@STLNET.COM>
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Daniel,

HP in many ways is not the company it once was.  It used to be an
'enginnering' company where their talented engineers would develop
outstanding and real-world useable products.  In between the 200lx and the
Omnigo release HP was purchased / reorganized and its handheld group moved
to singapore.  This new group suffered from a bad case of
'not-designed-here' syndrome and decided the 200lx was done and that they
would reinvent success with the Omnigo 100, this device was close to the
mark in many ways but its battery life and tendancy to loose memory contents
when batteries were low sealed its fate.

After their 'first products' (omnigo's) failed they dealt with Micro$oft and
became a WinCE clone shop.  Sure their WinCE offerings are 'acceptable' but
HP is now a 'marketing' company where salesman dictate what features a
product will have.  It is no longer important for their product to be a
technical achievment, but instead that it just has a better feature list
than the competition, usability be damned.

Think about it, HP used to release landmark products such as the 100/200lx
series, the Early Omnibooks, and HP Laserjet and Inkjet printers.  Today
they recycle printers by coming out with new models VERY often that offer
little if any advantage over earlier models, Todays HP notebooks are
rebadged from other companies, etc.   Its all market driven, no longer
technology driven as HP was in it glory days.

Its quite sad actually, but I doubt we will see anything truely innovative
from HP for some time to come, if at all.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel McDonough <dmcdcb@BUNT.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 1:47 PM
Subject: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP


<snip>

Then I got the HP-360LX. The latest and greatest product in the palmtop
computer line. It has a backlight! Wonderful! But wait...
Where is the Calculator?
Where is the Database?
Where are the tools so that I can write programs on this thing?

What happened to Hewlett-Packard? The 360 doesn't have any superior
technology when compared to the WinCE competition. Better materials and
construction, maybe, but no *new* technology.

So here I am, using two palmtop computers from the same company because each
one has features that I use. Will HP ever produce a product that will be a
true upgrade for the 200? Something that will let me put it on the shelf and
never need to bring it back from retirement? I'm afraid not. HP has become a
"me too" producer of computer products.

They have lost the vision. Today I mourn.

Daniel McDonough

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:11:28 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Alchemist wrote:

> to singapore.  This new group suffered from a bad case of
> 'not-designed-here' syndrome and decided the 200lx was done and that
> they would reinvent success with the Omnigo 100, this device was close
> to the mark in many ways but its battery life and tendancy to loose
> memory contents when batteries were low sealed its fate.

Don't forget the tiny screen, the lack of an AC adapter jack, etc.
Terrific concept, horrible implementation...

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:09:33 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jasper de Jong <jsdejong@WXS.NL>
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Hi!

A few weeks ago I saw a little utility in the SUPER top 20 that lets you
type an 'underlying' character by double-typing it. So 2 times 6 gives
'. I can't find it anymore, not even throught the super search engine.
Anyone knows the name?

Thanks!
jasper

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:19:07 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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I mainly use my 200LX for word processing these days, either in WP51 or
Memo or NoteTaker.  I don't use many of the other features of Buddy except
the SmartCaps, which automatically capitalizes the first letter of each
sentence, the word "I," changes 6 into ' when it's hit after a letter,
etc.  It seems to me that loading the whole 50K Buddy TSR is a waste just
for these features.  Would it be possible for somebody (Stefan? <g>) to
write a TSR that would duplicate the functionality of SmartCaps in a
smaller TSR?  And that would work in DOS and SysMan too...

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:20:15 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
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Subject:      Re: My introductory email
MIME-Version: 1.0
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The system has 32 Meg of internal ram, a CF card and a PC Card (Type II). I
use a32M CF for storage and a NIC or second PC Card. I just downloaded the
SCSI drivers for a AH-1460 card. I intend to test and see if my Zip drive
will connect.

Stephen Souza
System Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
*mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Musielewicz SMTP:a123456@BITSTREAM.NET
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 05:59
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: My introductory email
>
> Wow!! It uses approximately 320 mA per hour compared to the 200 which
> uses about 60. The color really uses power. Does it have a type III slot
> for a pcmcia harddrive?
>
>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:25:29 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:17:54 -0400 (EDT)

01h20m39s ago ...
On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote:

> > My question: Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must unzip a
> > html before loading it ?
>
> I know X-Finder can unzip files on-demand and then open them up in the
> proper application.  I'll let one of the resident X-Finder experts say
> whether or not this would work...


Hi Gang-

Well, I won't claim the status of XF expert, but I am a major
"Findermaniac".  This WILL work in XF.  If you set .htm files to
associate with HV (in the "Execution by matching extension" section),
then choosing the .zip in the file browser will let you look inside
the archive (just like a directory).  Then select the .htm file you
want to view, and it opens in HV...

HTH

-Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:51:16 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Comments: To: Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>
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1999-04-20-14:26:48 Bruce Martin:
> My professor described the three Laws of Thermodynamics as:
> 1. You can't win.
> 2. You can't break even.
> 3. You can't get out of the game.

I wonder if he got that from Robert A. Heinlein; in the Notebooks of Lazarus
Long (interludes of aphorisms scattered through the novel Time Enough for
Love) he says something like (paraphrasing from memory):

        The Three Laws of Thermodynamics:

                1. You can't win.
                2. You can't break even.
                3. You can't get out of the game.

        Major philosophical foundations for life are based on negating one of
        these laws; capitalists believe you can win, socialists believe you
        can break even, mystics believe you can get out of the game.

-Bennett

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:47:23 -0700
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Has anyone considered the use of vCalendar or iCalendar to link the =
HP200LX
appointment book  with Outlook and other calendar programs?  vCalendar
is an open standard which has been endorsed by a number of companies
which have scheduling and PIM software products. See www.imc.org for
details on the standard. There are also three RFCs on the subject
numbered RFC 2445, RFC 2446 and RFC 2447.

Outlook is vCalendar aware and Outlook98 also has a simple macro utility
which could be used to update a corporate MS Exchange server.
I think you would configure the Outlook98 rules wizard to use logic
to always accept vCalendar appointments and acknowledge acceptance
to all other participants in the meeting to a vCalendar
sent from my POST/LX address, but forward all other scheduling requests =
as a
vCalendar file to my palmtop e-mail for me to review. When you got the
vCalendar file on the palmtop the step by step details
for handling the file would involve either an add on to Post/LX
which would handle the acknowlegement and scheduling and declining of
the the appointment or a series of macros and files to accept or
decline appointment and to write the vCalendar file to your appointment
book.

I think using vCalendar would require more work on the users part and
to create a program that would work with the palmtop, but I think it
would be the route to go because it is an open standard and is
supported by just about anyone these days (Netscape, Groupwise,
Outlook, etc.).

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:05:53 +0200
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Hi Andreas,

> So I believe it *means* "regarding" and is *used* for "replying to".

This sounds very reasonable. And I think the original poster should
never use a "Re:" in the subject line. I always like to identify the
original post.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:08:46 -0700
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Subject:      OK, Not the First Palmtop Webserver

OK, time for a correction. A couple individuals have pointed out other
servers that have been available for awhile. There is an http server
for the Newton (http://come.to/lightyear_media) and I have accessed a
couple sites that use it. A lot of great features, and seems to work
well. There is also a "minimal implementation" for the Pilot, but I
haven't found any servers using it, and have no idea what it's features
are (http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/rees/pilot/).

I thought that I had done a reasonably thorough search of the net prior
to posting, but I missed any references to these. My apologies to the
developers of these programs.


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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:20:37 -0700
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Mike Kopplin wrote:

> OK, time for a correction. A couple individuals have pointed out other
> servers that have been available for awhile. There is an http server
> for the Newton (http://come.to/lightyear_media) and I have accessed a
> couple sites that use it. A lot of great features, and seems to work
> well. There is also a "minimal implementation" for the Pilot, but I
> haven't found any servers using it, and have no idea what it's
> features are (http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/rees/pilot/).

But the Newton is a PDA and not a palmtop computer.  <open can of worms>

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Hi,

I am using a DOS-Version of AutoRoute Express (including europe
and germany) on my Palmtop. It`s Version 2.03, the maps seem to
be from 1992.

Does anybody know whether there is a later version of either the
program or the maps which still run on the HP200LX under DOS (I
do not intend to use Win 3.0).

Is anybody else using the program on his Palmtop?

thanks,
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:17:41 -0700
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote:

> I mainly use my 200LX for word processing these days, either in WP51 or
> Memo or NoteTaker.  I don't use many of the other features of Buddy except
> the SmartCaps, which automatically capitalizes the first letter of each
> sentence, the word "I," changes 6 into ' when it's hit after a letter,
> etc.  It seems to me that loading the whole 50K Buddy TSR is a waste just
> for these features.  Would it be possible for somebody (Stefan? <g>) to
> write a TSR that would duplicate the functionality of SmartCaps in a
> smaller TSR?  And that would work in DOS and SysMan too...

Dude, it's there.  It's called Buddydos.

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN.  It's like riding a
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Bill Childers wrote:

> Dude, it's there.  It's called Buddydos.

Buddydos does NOT work in SysMan.  And it has its own set of problems,
like the horrible things it does to WP51.

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Phil Drummond wrote:
>
> It's a Microsoft-ism meaning Reply.

While your info re: the meaning of RE: is correct, attributing it to
Microsoft isn't.  It is also used in Netscape Navigator's Mail tool bar.

David, WA7ZYQ

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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Bill Childers wrote:
>
> > Dude, it's there.  It's called Buddydos.
>
> Buddydos does NOT work in SysMan.  And it has its own set of problems,
> like the horrible things it does to WP51.

Doh!  Didn't know you wanted a SysMan util.

Boy, you sure are picky, huh?  <grin>

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:18:52 -0500
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP


>On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Alchemist wrote:
>
>> to singapore.  This new group suffered from a bad case of
>> 'not-designed-here' syndrome and decided the 200lx was done and that
>> they would reinvent success with the Omnigo 100, this device was close
>> to the mark in many ways but its battery life and tendancy to loose
>> memory contents when batteries were low sealed its fate.
>
>Don't forget the tiny screen, the lack of an AC adapter jack, etc.
>Terrific concept, horrible implementation...

The tiny screen would have been fine (look at the palmpilot) if it were more
readable,
or had a backlight, and the 200lx never suffered for lack of AC adapter, its
not until
you rob the unit of its battery life that AC power becomes an issue.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com


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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Bill Childers wrote:

> Doh!  Didn't know you wanted a SysMan util.

That's part of it-- to free up some of that massive 50K, since I only
really use the smartcaps.

> Boy, you sure are picky, huh?  <grin>

I sure am.  IDEALLY, I'd like a TSR that makes keystrokes in WP51 behave
more like a normal word processor.  i.e., shift+arrows highlights, Fn-Copy
copies, Fn-Date stamps the date, etc.  As it is, I can't even set up Alt-F
to select the file menu, because when BuddyDOS is loaded it kills the
{Menu Select} macro code.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:35:52 +0100
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Subject:      Open a built-in application with a file
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One of the most frequently asked questions in this list is: "How can I
add an icon to the application manager that opens my special database?"

There are several solutions available in SUPER
(http://www.palmtop.net/super.html), and I've tried some of them. The
one I liked the most is open (you may of course disagree).

Thank you Hiroyuki Sekiya, for developing it!

open is a DOS executable that, when called with the name of a HPLX
built-in database file, switches to the database program, and opens it.
For example, if you have a phone book file called "friends.pdb", you can
call at the DOS prompt "open friends", and you get the phone book
application with your database opened. This can also be used in the
Application Manager (More) to assign an icon to a database file, or in
"\_dat\filer.ini" (writing lines as "GDB=c:\bin\open.exe %") to open a
database file by pressing Enter in Filer on the file.

The original open had only one problem: if the database application was
running when you called "open", your request to open the file was
postponed to the next time you started the application.

I have corrected this misbehavior, and added support for the other
internal applications: Quicken, Lotus 123 and Memo (Memo is called when
the file type is unknown, so this can be used as a DOS editor for any
text file - just type "open autoexec.bat" and you get it in Memo).

I also included a nice feature from Smmx (also from SUPER). In Smmx you
can create an icon with a wild card specification (e.g. \_dat\*.adb),
and you get a selection list with all your ADB files to select from. The
only problem is that it suffers from the open bug that made me modify it
in the first place - it does not work if the application is running.

With open 1.20 you can now type "open \_dat\*.adb", and you get a
selection list of all the ADB files.

Thank you to the PAL group for creating the great PAL library! It has
simplified the task of modifying open a lot.

open 1.20 is of course available in SUPER.


Hope this information gets you somewhere.

Regards,
Paulo Custodio

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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote:

> The tiny screen would have been fine (look at the palmpilot) if it
> were more readable, or had a backlight, and the 200lx never suffered
> for lack of AC adapter, its not until you rob the unit of its battery
> life that AC power becomes an issue.

But the 200LX at least HAS an AC adapter.

I think the main problem was that HP said "Nobody wants an actual palmtop
COMPUTER.  They want ORGANIZERS."  So out came the Omnigo... and the
300LX... and so forth.

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> Let me first state that I am NOT a fan of NASCAR racing, but I am forced to
> attend the Talladega races two times each year and have done so for the past
> ten years in an official capacity as a Deputy Sheriff. If any of you are

Whaaat?! A Good Ol' Boy from down 'Bama way who *doesn't* love stock cars like
he loves his Momma?
:-)

Or maybe it's the thought of having to clean up after Joe Racefan who decides to
find out if the family car can do 195 on a public road, with predictable
results.
%-0

Seriously, for the past couple of years I've been a volunteer firefighter at the
annual CART racing weekend in Cleveland, and I can sympathize with you. Events
like this are *hard work* when you're not a paying customer. Just try it for
three days on airport tarmac under the July sun wearing 80 lbs. of gear with 120
decibels roaring in your ears while you try to keep your eye out for alcohol
flames which, by the way, are pretty much invisible... you get the idea.

ObOnTopic: On the other hand, it does provide the only legitimate reason I have
to use the Stopwatch function in my palmtop...

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:46:15 EST
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Subject:      Re: HP and the handheld market

> Yes, but of course in a less flashy way. But frankly, I prefer being
> able to enter umlauts to nice flashy icons. I seriously was able to use
> the cheap Casio out of the box while I considered the WinCE gadget a
> poor joke due to the lack of functionality. I also must admit that my
> comparison was for WinCE 1.0. I have not seen 2.0, but also I have
> hardly ever seen a MS product that was "improved" in an upgrade in many
> more ways than increasing its size, making it slower and more buggy
> (which might be a slight exaggeration :-)
>

So true about M$ "upgrades", look at win98. :-) The lack of an umlaut
has never been a problem for me, I can't remember the last umlaut I
used. :-)


> Thanks for your corrections BTW! At the time I had a look at the WinCE
> stuff, there was no IrDA driver for Linux, so it was not possible to
> exchange any data with any non-Windows system. Obviously, the *other side*
> has found a way to "talk" to the WinCE gadgets then.
>
> Andreas

I doubt that the CE machines drove the development of the Irda driver
for linux, more likely someone with a couple of laptops that wanted
them to communicate.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:47:53 -0700
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Bill Childers wrote:
>
> > Doh!  Didn't know you wanted a SysMan util.
>
> That's part of it-- to free up some of that massive 50K, since I only
> really use the smartcaps.

You can save a little by removing the WorldTime night/day module.  (I
think that's like 13-15K.)


Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN.  It's like riding a
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:56:16 -0700
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Bill Childers wrote:

> You can save a little by removing the WorldTime night/day module.  (I
> think that's like 13-15K.)

Yeah, that's how I shaved it down to 46.1K, from ~60K.  It's still
humongous.

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Subject:      Re: HP and the handheld market

> I've noticed that Pete gets a little edgey when people comment about
> CE or Windows. He sees criticism as a personal attack on all that is
> great and good, I guess<g>. The old M$ paranoia.
>
> John

Don't go bundling me in with the M$ lovers, I have used OS/2 for
years and only use win95 to play games. Seems about right as a giant
nintendo system. :-) You have to admit, though, that some of the
people on this list (not the original poster) are rather fanatic in
their hate for winCE and I just don't understand that. I collect
computers, have dozens of all sizes and shapes and colors and I have
never seen the need to claim that one is better than another. It is
almost like they have to strike out at winCE because they feel
abandoned by HP since there will never be another 200lx. I guess I am
just against prejudice in any form and aimed at anything.

Pete - Written on the DOS version of PMAIL



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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: OK, Not the First Palmtop Webserver

> OK, time for a correction. A couple individuals have pointed out other
> servers that have been available for awhile. There is an http server
> for the Newton (http://come.to/lightyear_media) and I have accessed a
> couple sites that use it. A lot of great features, and seems to work
> well. There is also a "minimal implementation" for the Pilot, but I
> haven't found any servers using it, and have no idea what it's features
> are (http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/rees/pilot/).
>
> I thought that I had done a reasonably thorough search of the net prior
> to posting, but I missed any references to these. My apologies to the
> developers of these programs.
>
>
> Mike Kopplin
>

Not wishing to risk the ire of the antiCE foundation <G> but there is
also a commercial web server for CE. I remember trying it a year or
so ago and it did actually work. don't have nay idea what features it
had or how robust it was, the web site that advertized it had a link
to a page running off of a CE machine.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Subject:      Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP

Daniel McDonough writes:
> I've been a lurker here for just a short while, but I feel we have bigger problems than WinCE.  I hope someone from HP follows this list.
>
> First, WinCE is not that bad. I have a 360LX and I do use it for more than just a paperweight. Mainly because of the backlight. I don't use it more often because it is just a little too big to "thumb type" like I do with my 200LX. Battery life hasn't been an issue for me. However, I am disappointed in it because it doesn't have the old HP superiority.
>
> When I first played with an HP-35 calculator, I was blown away. It was amazing. There wasn't anything like it for years. Then I got an HP-65. It was light years ahead of the competition.

I can just hear'em at HP. "You're not happy, but we gave you Windows!
Windows! Why everybody wants Windows. What, you want a calculator too?
What do we know about calculators!!" Indeed, what do they know. This
lack of a fully functional unit leaves a big hole in the niche not
filled by the palm.

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Subject:      Re: OK, Not the First Palmtop Webserver

> But the Newton is a PDA and not a palmtop computer.  <open can of worms>
>

But you can write programs on it and save files and print and load
programs and ...

So what makes it a PDA and not a computer? Or are you saying that the
HP200LX is also just a lowly PDA? Inquiring minds want to know. :-)

Pete

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP


>On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote:
>
>> The tiny screen would have been fine (look at the palmpilot) if it
>> were more readable, or had a backlight, and the 200lx never suffered
>> for lack of AC adapter, its not until you rob the unit of its battery
>> life that AC power becomes an issue.
>
>But the 200LX at least HAS an AC adapter.

Very True.  I forgot they didnt even offer one for the Omnigo.  Definitely a
drawback
with its 'ok one minute, dead the next' battery life.


>
>I think the main problem was that HP said "Nobody wants an actual palmtop
>COMPUTER.  They want ORGANIZERS."  So out came the Omnigo... and the
>300LX... and so forth.

I disagree here, if all folks wanted was an ORGANIZER, then Sharp Wizards
would
still dominate the market.   I think folks want 'some' functionality of a
computer without
the size and complicated nature of notebooks, etc.  Easy sync with a desktop
and
the ability to run 3rd party programs (that are readily available) are big
selling points
today, as everyone tries to compete with Palm.

The WinCe devices are real computers, actually having more processing power
than
any previous devices, but I think they miss the mark due to the expense of
development,
resulting in a lack of software, and their universally short battery life.
Not to mention the
clumsy nature of the WinCe UI <g>

I would love to see the following device, but I know HP will never produce
it as from their
point of view it would be a step backward.

Dream machine (Not end all be all, but something I would buy in a heartbeat)

200lx (or 360lx) case/keyboard.
16mhz 80186 CPU (basically a doublespeed 200lx)
DOS/200lx pims etc, in ROM (drive D:)
4mb Memory (drive C:)
640x200 16 greyscale screen with on demand backlighting (adjustable brightne
ss)
1 PCMCIA Type II slot (A:) and 1 CF slot (B:) (or possibly 2 CF slots as A:
and B:)
Sysmgr compliant TCPIP stack, web browser, and email client.
Builtin 14.4 (or 28.8 power permitting) fax modem. low power (via softmodem
or just lowpower integrated)

Battery life comparable to an upgraded 200lx (memory + speed, etc.) although
shortened by modem and backlight use.

Dan
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote:

> I disagree here, if all folks wanted was an ORGANIZER, then Sharp
> Wizards would still dominate the market.  I think folks want 'some'

The PalmPilot dominates the market now.  It's pretty much the same thing
as a Sharp Wizard in a smaller form facter (and no keyboard) and with
better connectivity.  HENCE... I stick with my original statement.  HP
figures people want organizers like the Pilot and not computers like the
200LX.  So they make them.  HP just doesn't care about their
engineer-customers anymore.  <sob>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:05:24 +0000
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Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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1999-04-20-17:19:23 Mitchell Hamm (N8XS):
> But, I have for a long time wondered how we could do a great icon repository
> for the 200LX to reside on palmtop.net or other palmtop-friendly place.
> Preliminary specifications would be:
>
> 1) icons can be uploaded by anyone using a web-based form

I've never done web-based form upload, I expect the trick would be either a
custom web client, or else a helper program to convert the (binary) icon file
into a text encoding of some kind that can be pasted into a form. Could even
be URI encoded in which case it might for all I know show up automagically
decoded when it gets pulled through the CGI lib parsers.

> 2) icons are categorized roughly along the same 24 SUPER categories

That's a 24-item popup menu, easy to code in CGI.

> 3) pages are built dynamically

Easy.

> 4) dynamic pages consist of an icon array imagemap (sorry HV users)

I've yet to write an imagemap, and I've never used HV for online browsing,
but my day-in-and-day out browser is Lynx, and just about all the imagemaps
I see these days are lynx-friendly --- the imagemap is a link, when selected
you get a list of links to choose from. I suspect there's a standard way to
do this using CGI, since everyone does it. And it's probably the easiest way
to do an imagemap. If HV is less capable than Lynx there's still a fix: the
CGI can switch on the browser type ($q->user_agent) in Perl CGI. I did this
recently; my first-ever CGI wanted to display a table, so first I wrote it
as a text table, in columns aligned with spaces for a fixed-pitch font, in a
<pre>...</pre> block, then I went back and wrote the (simpler:-) HTML table
code, gave the user a popup for picking which they preferred, and rigged it to
default by browser type --- /mozilla|msie/i default to HTML tables, everyone
else defaults to text tables. Turns out, that was a particularly nice design,
since once a table grows to tens of thousands of rows, HTML table handling
rolls over and dies fatally, while text tables still work fine.

> 5) array imagemap graphics can be downloaded for reference on the LX

Easy. If you want to offer a "download" and keep the browser from trying to
display it, just give it a Content-Type that the browser doesn't know about.
That's most of the possible browser types, page the infinite number of
monkeys:-).

> I have not been able to think of an HV friendly way to do this. The original
> SUPER pages showed the icons of each app, but the image buffer of HV filled up
> immediately and it was slow as molasses. Andit was a hassle to have an icon for
> each app. :)

If you can figure out anything that you'd like to offer to HV, you can rig it
via conditional logic so that other browser users won't trip over it.

> I think most of those specs can be met with clever perling, but I don't know if
> ICN files can be translated over to a GIF or JPG to build the dynamic imagemap.

Easy perling, if there's a library out there that knows ICN file I/O. There
are GIF and JPG I/O libraries available (I assume, I've not needed 'em, but
I'm pretty sure I've heard of 'em).

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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> But you can write programs on it and save files and print and load
> programs and ... So what makes it a PDA and not a computer? Or are you
> saying that the HP200LX is also just a lowly PDA? Inquiring minds want
> to know. :-)

The thing that makes it a PDA is that Apple and everybody who used it said
"This is a PDA."  The 200LX says right on it "Palmtop PC."  If you put the
words "computer" on a Newton, then I'll call it a computer.  <g>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:04:51 +0200
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Hi!

I've created quite a few text files in memo that contain ie bold and
underlined characters. I've transferred them to my desktop but when i
open these .txt/.doc(whatever you call 'm) in Word I don't get it
without all those strange characters. I've tried converting from RTF,
MS-DOS text, ACSI; nothing.

What format is it?

thanks
jasper
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Subject:      Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP

David Sargeant writes:
> On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote:
>
> > The tiny screen would have been fine (look at the palmpilot) if it
> > were more readable, or had a backlight, and the 200lx never suffered
> > for lack of AC adapter, its not until you rob the unit of its battery
> > life that AC power becomes an issue.
>
> But the 200LX at least HAS an AC adapter.
>
> I think the main problem was that HP said "Nobody wants an actual palmtop
> COMPUTER.  They want ORGANIZERS."  So out came the Omnigo... and the
> 300LX... and so forth.

HP just designed around MS specs. Its surprizing that todays organizers
have the computational power of yesterdays notebooks yet they don't sort
any faster than yesterdays organizers. Its like moving backwards in time<g>.

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> David Sargeant wrote:
> > You now have the only paperweight that uses batteries at the rate of one
> > year per pair.  <g>
>
> I don't think this is a fair statement. It *still* serves as a battery
> weight using the same pair of batteries and maybe it will still work in
> a few months, so it is too earily to make a final statement about the
> actual battery life :-)

I can almost remember the first time I saw YOUR unit at Muir Woods
sipping a beer!!!!!  That was definitely more than a year ago!!! (sigh)
And no, for the grammarians in the group, the unit was not sipping a
beer!!!  But it would not have affected its performance much anyway.

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>>files in memo that contain ie bold and
underlined characters. I've transferred them to my desktop but when i
open these .txt/.doc(whatever you call 'm) in Word I don't get it
without all those strange characters. I've tried converting from RTF,
MS-DOS text, ACSI; nothing.<<

Get DOCRTF from SUPER. It will convert Memo to RTF and that will be
imported into most word processors.  Save as RTF and you can use DOCRTF t=
o
put it back in Memo format.
.ed.

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John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET> wrote:

> would it be possible to run a 3.3 volt card
> using a 5 volt port. In other words would it be possible
> to get the port to supply a dual 5/3.3 instead of 12/5?
> The reason I ask is the port would supply about 250 mA
> with a 3 volt card

The 100/200LX does not supply 3.3 volts at all.  All 3.3 volt
cards are really dual 5 and 3.3 volt cards - they will work
with either voltage.  So, when a 3.3 volt card is plugged into
the 100/200LX, it runs at 5 volts and therefore there is the
150 ma current limit.


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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> HP just designed around MS specs. Its surprizing that todays
> organizers have the computational power of yesterdays notebooks yet
> they don't sort any faster than yesterdays organizers. Its like moving
> backwards in time<g>.

I agree.  Any time I'm on a 40MHz RISC machine and I can't type a sentence
because it lags many words behind, I consider that an organizer and not a
real computer.  <g>

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On 04-20 03:45pm CDT, the following was written:

> Whaaat?! A Good Ol' Boy from down 'Bama way who *doesn't* love stock cars like
> he loves his Momma?
> :-)

I would like it them better if I could be at home watching them on
television while playing with my LX.... of course I do take the LX with me
so I guess I'll sit there and play Snake and Tetris <g>.

> Or maybe it's the thought of having to clean up after Joe Racefan who decides to
> find out if the family car can do 195 on a public road, with predictable
> results.

No.... imagine about 200,000 drunks who love to walk up to and say "I shore
bet you hate being here, don't you oscifer?".

> ObOnTopic: On the other hand, it does provide the only legitimate reason I have
> to use the Stopwatch function in my palmtop...

Hmmm.... Maybe I should time Dale Earnhart to see how long it takes him to
go around the fastest NASCAR track on the circuit <g>.

73 Jeff

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Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP


>On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote:
>
>> I disagree here, if all folks wanted was an ORGANIZER, then Sharp
>> Wizards would still dominate the market.  I think folks want 'some'
>
>The PalmPilot dominates the market now.  It's pretty much the same thing
>as a Sharp Wizard in a smaller form facter (and no keyboard) and with
>better connectivity.  HENCE... I stick with my original statement.  HP
>figures people want organizers like the Pilot and not computers like the
>200LX.  So they make them.  HP just doesn't care about their
>engineer-customers anymore.  <sob>

Although it took me a long time to admit it, the PalmPilot is actually alot
more of a computer than its given credit for.  Just as the 200lx hardware
can be easily compared with early IBM-PC desktops,  the PalmPilot hardware
is basically the same as early Macintosh computers.  The PalmPilot's
have a 'unique' file system, 68000 series processor, etc. just as Mac's
did in the past.  Its just that PalmPilots shield the user from its computer
innards making it a no-brainer to use.   Of all the handhelds out there the
PalmPilot and the 200lx have ALOT in common.

They both have excellent battery life, have hardware similar to desktop
machines
from 10years ago <g>.  Have a simple user interface to access builtin PIM
functions,
etc.  The Palm has the advantage of Size, and a pen for input while the
200lx has
the advantage of a keyboard, more robust builtin applications (1-2-3 etc.)
and DOS
compatibility for those who need it.

With a little slight alteration of the 200lx package it could easily fit in
with todays
handhelds and beat them hands down on alot of fronts.

As far as HP goes, I think their focus is simply on money.  They know they
have a
large user base from the calculator & HP100/200 days and that at least a
good %
of them will upgrade when HP offers a new device.  Getting in bed with M$
and
producing WinCE machines is the path of least resistance as they don't have
to
design an OS, just follow M$'s hardware spec and throw in a few HP specific
details and they have a product to market.  And with WinCE's tendancy to
obsolete
itself with each new release they can be assured of reselling either new
hardware
or upgrades to their customers.

Well enough of my rambling.  I believe the majority of users want more
functionality
than a typical organizer can provide but they want it in an organizer 'like'
system where
they don't have to see any complexity unless then want to look for it. <g>

Dan
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Subject:      Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP

> I would love to see the following device, but I know HP will never produce
> it as from their
> point of view it would be a step backward.
>
> Dream machine (Not end all be all, but something I would buy in a heartbeat)
>
> 200lx (or 360lx) case/keyboard.
> 16mhz 80186 CPU (basically a doublespeed 200lx)
> DOS/200lx pims etc, in ROM (drive D:)
> 4mb Memory (drive C:)
> 640x200 16 greyscale screen with on demand backlighting (adjustable brightne
> ss)
> 1 PCMCIA Type II slot (A:) and 1 CF slot (B:) (or possibly 2 CF slots as A:
> and B:)
> Sysmgr compliant TCPIP stack, web browser, and email client.
> Builtin 14.4 (or 28.8 power permitting) fax modem. low power (via softmodem
> or just lowpower integrated)
>
> Battery life comparable to an upgraded 200lx (memory + speed, etc.) although
> shortened by modem and backlight use.
>
> Dan
> driden@stlnet.com

I would just opt for a little more memory (since the 32M and 64M
upgrades don't seem to impact battery life too much) and a little
better processor. A 386 based processor gives us the memory
management needed to run real multitasking and to experiment with
things like linux which would really be nice. I would think that by
now there would be low enough powered 386 chips, the proliner used a
386 but I don't know how battery life is.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP


>On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:
>
>> HP just designed around MS specs. Its surprizing that todays
>> organizers have the computational power of yesterdays notebooks yet
>> they don't sort any faster than yesterdays organizers. Its like moving
>> backwards in time<g>.
>
>I agree.  Any time I'm on a 40MHz RISC machine and I can't type a sentence
>because it lags many words behind, I consider that an organizer and not a
>real computer.  <g>

LOL.  Yep I would consider that an organizer (or a paperweight) too.  The
performance
should be much better on a processor that fast, until you throw an M$ GUI on
it at least <g>

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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Subject:      Re: OK, Not the First Palmtop Webserver

> The thing that makes it a PDA is that Apple and everybody who used it said
> "This is a PDA."  The 200LX says right on it "Palmtop PC."  If you put the
> words "computer" on a Newton, then I'll call it a computer.  <g>
>

Cool, you mean if I mold CRAY into the lid of my 200lx I can call it
a super computer? :-)

I am going to go home right now and put corvette on my honda and see
if it runs faster. Of course it is red and they say that red
corvettes get more tickets from the cops, oh well.

Pete



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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote:

> Although it took me a long time to admit it, the PalmPilot is actually alot
> more of a computer than its given credit for.  Just as the 200lx hardware
> can be easily compared with early IBM-PC desktops,  the PalmPilot hardware
> is basically the same as early Macintosh computers.  The PalmPilot's
> have a 'unique' file system, 68000 series processor, etc. just as Mac's
> did in the past.  Its just that PalmPilots shield the user from its computer
> innards making it a no-brainer to use.   Of all the handhelds out there the
> PalmPilot and the 200lx have ALOT in common.

Gotta comment --
It's thanks to my boss that the Pilot has the hardware architecture it
does.  The company where I work, Set Engineering
(http://www.setengineering.com) did the original hardware design for the
Pilot, before Palm Computing got bought by USRobotics.  Palm had the
original idea and made the PalmOS, but Set Engineering designed the
hardware.



Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

-- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN.  It's like riding a
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<< HP
figures people want organizers like the Pilot and not computers like the
200LX.  So they make them.  HP just doesn't care about their
engineer-customers anymore.  <sob> >>

I still maintain regular contact with Khaw Kheng Joo, the head of the HP
Singapore division that produces handhelds.

He knows the feelings of strong HP 200LX users, expressed quite
elegantly in this thread. And you are correct that HP doesn't care about
their engineer-customers any more (these are my words, not Khaw's).  HP
is aiming for the broad based consumer marketplace.

Khaw has a very clear mission to increase HP handheld sales to a level
eventually comparable to HP DeskJet's or at least HP desktops. He
believes the way to do that is to promote an industry standard (Windows
CE), and produce the best quality and the greatest variety of devices.
(Hence, they have a palm-size, a 200LX-size, and a mini-notebook sized
CE unit).

The problem as many people on the list so clearly expressed is that
Windows CE units fall short in many ways to what we are used to on the
200LX. On the other hand, backliting, voice recording, MS Office
synchronization, Windows-like user interface are all appealing,
consumer-based features. I personally like using a CE mini-notebook
sized unit when traveling since what I do most is email, write, and do
small spreadsheets.  I like to be able to touch type with instant on,
light weight, and long battery life.  However, I actually would rather
have an enlarged 200LX.

All in all I agree with everyone:  It is a shame.  As publisher of
Handheld PC Magazine for Users of Windows CE (www.hpcmag.com), I really
want to like Windows CE.  I do think for a lot of people, it is a
reasonable solution and the O.S. and built-in apps will get better.

But there is no way, I would let anyone take my 64 Meg double speed
palmtop away from me any time in the foreseeable future.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:38:31 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Bennett Todd wrote:

> 1999-04-20-17:19:23 Mitchell Hamm (N8XS):
> > 1) icons can be uploaded by anyone using a web-based form
>
> I've never done web-based form upload, I expect the trick would be either a
> custom web client, or else a helper program to convert the (binary) icon file
> into a text encoding of some kind that can be pasted into a form. Could even
> be URI encoded in which case it might for all I know show up automagically
> decoded when it gets pulled through the CGI lib parsers.

Most modern browsers support file uploading (something implemented in
Netscape around version 2.0). This feature is commonly used in web-based
e-mail programs, allowing you to attach files from your computer to the
e-mail you wish to send.

http://www.terminalp.com/scripts/file_upload.shtml


> > I think most of those specs can be met with clever perling, but I don't know if
> > ICN files can be translated over to a GIF or JPG to build the dynamic imagemap.
>
> Easy perling, if there's a library out there that knows ICN file I/O. There
> are GIF and JPG I/O libraries available (I assume, I've not needed 'em, but
> I'm pretty sure I've heard of 'em).

I don't think there is a decoder for ICN files, but writing one should be
a no brainer (famous last words... :-)

As for gif, "gifc" the GIF compiler should do the trick.

http://gallery.uunet.be/Peter.Verthez/gifctxt.html

I've never used either, though.

Both references quoted in this message can be found at CPAN
(www.perl.com), BTW, by searching for the respective keywords (file upload
and gif, respectively).


Cheers,

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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote:

> I personally like using a CE mini-notebook sized unit when traveling
> since what I do most is email, write, and do small spreadsheets.  I
> like to be able to touch type with instant on, light weight, and long
> battery life.  However, I actually would rather have an enlarged
> 200LX.

I'd LIKE to be able to touch-type on my 320LX.  But I can't.  The 320LX is
an excellent piece of hardware-- the screen is better than the 200LX's,
especially when you remove the touch panel <g>.  But the OS is so slow
that it's impossible to type on.  And one of the faster machines like a
620LX, which presumably has better response time, is too big to carry
around in my pocket.  You just can't win...

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Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:36:17 -0400 (EDT)

41m07s ago ...
On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote:

> 200lx (or 360lx) case/keyboard.
> 16mhz 80186 CPU (basically a doublespeed 200lx)
> DOS/200lx pims etc, in ROM (drive D:)
> 4mb Memory (drive C:)
> 640x200 16 greyscale screen with on demand backlighting (adjustable =
brightne
> ss)
> 1 PCMCIA Type II slot (A:) and 1 CF slot (B:) (or possibly 2 CF slots =
as A:
> and B:)
> Sysmgr compliant TCPIP stack, web browser, and email client.
> Builtin 14.4 (or 28.8 power permitting) fax modem. low power (via =
softmodem
> or just lowpower integrated)
>
> Battery life comparable to an upgraded 200lx (memory + speed, etc.) =
although
> shortened by modem and backlight use.

I'll drink to that  <g>

But, as long as we're dreamin' -

* A real parallel port (of course with 2 slots we could add one)

* 640 x 240 (1/2 VGA) 16 greyscale screen

* Maybe a low-power '386 so it can run even more DOS apps

* Al least 8 megs (what I have now) for drive c:

With this dream machine, we could run just about any DOS app written.
Dream on!   This is what the industry has forgotten how to do.



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Subject:      Re: 150 mA pcmcia card limit
Comments: To: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM

Stanley Dobrowski writes:
> John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET> wrote:
>
> > would it be possible to run a 3.3 volt card
> > using a 5 volt port. In other words would it be possible
> > to get the port to supply a dual 5/3.3 instead of 12/5?
> > The reason I ask is the port would supply about 250 mA
> > with a 3 volt card
>
> The 100/200LX does not supply 3.3 volts at all.  All 3.3 volt
> cards are really dual 5 and 3.3 volt cards - they will work
> with either voltage.  So, when a 3.3 volt card is plugged into
> the 100/200LX, it runs at 5 volts and therefore there is the
> 150 ma current limit.

Yes, the pcmcia is built into the hornet. But the voltage has to go
from the chip to the socket and I was wondering how the chip supplies
the dual 12/5 and if it would be possible to change it to 5/3. I was
wondering because I've seen I/O and memory cards which are not dual 5/3 just
3 and wondered if the LX could use these if it could supply the voltage.

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Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 4:49 PM
Subject: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...)


Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:36:17 -0400 (EDT)

41m07s ago ...
On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote:

<snip>

I'll drink to that  <g>

But, as long as we're dreamin' -

* A real parallel port (of course with 2 slots we could add one)
As long as we are heading that way, why not USB, then you could use alot of
devices.

* 640 x 240 (1/2 VGA) 16 greyscale screen
Although this would be nice, it might pose some DOS compatibility issues,
unless
the SysMgr app used the extra 40 pixels for a task switching menu bar, with
a clock etc.
and just treated the screen as 640x200 for DOS.

* Maybe a low-power '386 so it can run even more DOS apps
Low power is the key,  I would love a 386+ in the system, but If its a
choice between that
and a 200lx like battery life, the battery life will win hands down.  I like
carrying my machine
for weeks on end without changing or even thinking about batteries.

* Al least 8 megs (what I have now) for drive c:
Probably.  Although much more might detract from battery life.  And using
Flash disks for
additional drives means you don't have to worry about loosing things if
power fails.

>With this dream machine, we could run just about any DOS app written.
>Dream on!   This is what the industry has forgotten how to do.

Yep.  It won't happen.  But it would be nice <g>

dan
driden@stlnet.com





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Hi,

I've got a Zoom 14.4 kbps Pocket Modem for sale.  It comes with a serial =
cable and a manual.  It runs on a 9v battery (included)or A/C adapter =
(not included).  It looks like the HP F1011A Adapter would work with it =
but I haven't tried it.  It'll connect to the HP 200LX serial via a =
Connectivity Pack cable and a 9 to 9 gender changer.  It allows a 1 or 2 =
MB Palmtop to run WWWLX or acCIS4 off the A: drive elimninating the need =
for a fax/modem/memory card.  It works fine and reliably.  I just have =
too much stuff.  I'd like to get $36.00 plus $4.00 Priority Mail =
shipping.  Make me an offer.

Best,

Bill

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<DIV>I've got a Zoom 14.4 kbps Pocket Modem for sale.&nbsp; It comes =
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A/C=20
adapter (not included).&nbsp; It looks like the HP F1011A Adapter would =
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> Hi!
>
> A few weeks ago I saw a little utility in the SUPER top 20 that lets you
> type an 'underlying' character by double-typing it. So 2 times 6 gives
> '. I can't find it anymore, not even throught the super search engine.

It sounds as if you are describing Buddy.  Which has double-click.  It
also shifts characters to their uppercase characters, etc.

I'm not sure if is on supersite or not.

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BuddyDos works in Dos.

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> What format is it?


Memo is its OWN format.  On cis, I think there was a utility to convert
it to rtf and back.

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There is a program that will convert between Windows Icon format and HP
Palmtop Icon format on SUPER.

Also, the format for HP Palmtop Icons is very simple.  The first 8 HEX bytes
are the header

(01 00 01 00 2C 00 20 00)

and each 8 bit HEX value from there on is image data.  Like this:

00 00 00 00 00 0x

The line of zeros above is the HEX data for the first row of pixels in an
Icon.  The little "x" I put there holds the place of the four bits that go
to the next row of pixels in the icon.  So the second line of the Icon
starts 1/2 way through the last byte of the first row.  This pattern
continues until you run out of data and have built the entire 44 x 32 Icon
image.

The format for the data is real simple.  Convert the HEX value to binary.  A
binary one(1) is analogous to a dark pixel and a binary zero(0) is a light
pixel.  So a string like this:

10 02 03 04 05 06

Looks like this:

   1   0   0   2   0   3   0   4   0   5   0
10100000000000100000001100000100000001010000
. .           .       ..     .       . .
 ..

(remember, the last 4 bits go on the next line)

If you are interested, take a look at the APPMGR.DAT file with a HEX editor.
Search for the 8 byte header and when you find it, copy the header and the
next 192 bytes out to another file.  Name that file with a .ICN extension
and look at it with the Icon Editor.  You can retrieve Icons from your
APPMGR.DAT file this way.  (there is a program on SUPER to do this also)

A last note, or a request as it really is... Can someone write a program
that acts like a cross between Pkzip/unzip and Icon editor?  I want all my
Icons to be in one large file so I don't waste mamory, but I want to scroll
through them to select them for display.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laust Brock-Nannestad SMTP:di980769@DIKU.DK
>
> I don't think there is a decoder for ICN files, but writing one should be
> a no brainer (famous last words... :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laust
>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:43:12 -0500
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A question as long as we are dreaming here...
Are there any "smarts" to a doubleslot adapter?

I'm thinking here, a PC card is a bunch of case (to keep your fingers out of
the 'trons).

What would be the problem(s) with stripping the case from a PC card and
sacrificing the speaker for the space to permanently add a (lets say...)
modem?

I'm thinking there is enough room "under" an installed PC card to put
another (less case) in the space between the palmtop's housing and the case
of the removable PC card.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:04:36 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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I picked up my Dad's Palm 3 last weekend and went about entertaining myself
with it.  It reminded me of my Mac Plus.  That is to say, I found it capable
of the tasks it had available, but it offered no avenues for exploration.
It's a tool.  The HP200 on the other hand, as well as being a great tool,
also offers a richness that encourages exploration.  I asked my Dad about
adding software to the Palm and he replied "you can do that?"  (Now wait a
second, my Dad is no newbi to computing, he has been working in electronics
sense before printed circuit boards, and still builds a better PC than I
can, and I get paid to do it. :)
The Palm is intended to be used as a tool to further the activities of the
"masses" that is to say, it's a support device not a self-contained
solution.  HP once offered solutions to problems.  The test equipment,
calculators, computers, and yes the HPDOSLX machines were the best stuff you
could get, like Snap-on only cheaper. :)  I too am depressed about the junk
(sorry, I had to say it) HP is producing now days.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sargeant SMTP:david@HPLX.NET
>
> HP just doesn't care about their
> engineer-customers anymore.  <sob>
>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:06:55 -0500
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              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP


>I picked up my Dad's Palm 3 last weekend and went about entertaining myself
>with it.  It reminded me of my Mac Plus.  That is to say, I found it
capable
>of the tasks it had available, but it offered no avenues for exploration.
>It's a tool.  The HP200 on the other hand, as well as being a great tool,
>also offers a richness that encourages exploration.  I asked my Dad about
>adding software to the Palm and he replied "you can do that?"  (Now wait a
>second, my Dad is no newbi to computing, he has been working in electronics
>sense before printed circuit boards, and still builds a better PC than I
>can, and I get paid to do it. :)
>The Palm is intended to be used as a tool to further the activities of the
>"masses" that is to say, it's a support device not a self-contained
>solution.  HP once offered solutions to problems.  The test equipment,
>calculators, computers, and yes the HPDOSLX machines were the best stuff
you
>could get, like Snap-on only cheaper. :)  I too am depressed about the junk
>(sorry, I had to say it) HP is producing now days.

This confirms things I have read that 'speculate' that 50% of Palm users use
only
the built-in applications.  I personally find this hard to believe with the
literally 1000's
(over 2k apps on PalmPilotGear alone) of applications out there that less
than 50%
of the potential market even knows about them, but then again I viewed the
Palm
devices as mere 'Toys' until I looked into development for the WinCE
platform and
ended up side stepping into PalmOS development.  Now Ive saw the light so to
speak
and see the 'potential' of the device and understand its popularity.

Ive even switched to a PalmV (got it in a trade <g>) for my PIM functions
although I
still keep my 100lx handy as no matter what ive strayed to I always seem to
return to
it in time <g>

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

>
>Phil
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Sargeant SMTP:david@HPLX.NET
>>
>> HP just doesn't care about their
>> engineer-customers anymore.  <sob>
>>
>
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:24:00 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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Subject:      Successor to 200LX and Windows CE
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You know, if it wasn't for Windows CE, even the 320LX *would* be a good
successor for the 200LX.  Hardware-wise, it's a great machine.  The SH-3
CPU could prove trouble for running DOS, but let's put that aside for a
moment.  The keyboard is decent, and a lot closer to a desktop keyboard
than the 200LX.  The screen is absolutely gorgeous, and when you remove
the touch screen layer, the contrast is probably twice as good as the
200LX's.  The backlight is great and the double flash sockets are
extremely useful.  The 360LX and the later color machines would
probably be even better.  Granted, they're bigger and battery life
isn't as good, but I think many 200LX users would probably be able
to put up with that.  BUT...

All the great hardware is crippled by an operating system that has
virtually no application support (other than what Microsoft decides to put
on there... boy, talk about a monopoly!  Why isn't there a POCKET
WORDPERFECT IN ROM, HUH?) and can't even keep up with simple typing.  What
a waste.

Those ROMs pop right out, too.  One of you enterprising hardware types
should put all the necessary PC hardware that the 320LX is lacking on a
ROM boa and market that.  <g>

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:58:24 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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From:         Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
Subject:      Re: HV question
Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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>My question:
>Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must
>unzip a html before loading it (if the html is
>called by a link _or_ by input of a file name)?

Hi Daniel

I dont know if HV could be linked to SHEZ yet believe it could.

Try SHEZ (Pkzip front end) and specify HV as the external viewer I believe
it would do what you seek.

BTW Are you using TREMM or EMS?  Speeds Pkzip bigtime.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:59:49 -0400
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              aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU>
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Subject:      HV and japanese font
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Has anyone had success with the Japanese end of the browser. It seems that I
was only able to locate the Dsp1402 and not the DSP1204a file but I don't know
if that makes a difference. I haven't been able to read Japanese text with the
setup recommended in the documentation.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:08:34 EST
Reply-To:     tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...)

> A question as long as we are dreaming here...
> Are there any "smarts" to a doubleslot adapter?
>

Yes, the double slot adaptor has steering logic to switch the
function of one slot to two. That is why there are problems with
some combinations. I had a double slot and with 6 different flash
cards and 3 different modems I never found a combination that worked
so I sold it.

> I'm thinking here, a PC card is a bunch of case (to keep your fingers out of
> the 'trons).
>
> What would be the problem(s) with stripping the case from a PC card and
> sacrificing the speaker for the space to permanently add a (lets say...)
> modem?
>
> I'm thinking there is enough room "under" an installed PC card to put
> another (less case) in the space between the palmtop's housing and the case
> of the removable PC card.
>
> Phil

The problem would be that the case of a pcmcia card is probably not
more than 1/32" of material, both sides together. Depending on the
card they are pretty solid inside full of chips and circuit board so
you don't save much space by removing the case. It could probably be
done and since the hornet chip supports 2 pcmcia sockets it would
probably be easy electrically but still a major undertaking.

Just as a comparison, someone in japan did basically the same thing
with a pc110. They removed the internal 2400 baud modem and made
another pcmcia slot that sticks half out of the case, wired in
parallel to the top pcmcia slot. They did this so that a type III HD
and a modem could be used at the same time, the type III normally
blocks the top pcmcia slot. Of course another person in japan made
the top pcmcia slot handle a type III drive by adding about 1/4" all
the way around the middle of the machine. Very creative and patient
these fellows, more than I would want to undertake.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:51:20 -0400
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              Eben Rubin <erubin@POL.NET>
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I have an "extra" new/unused 4MB plug-in memory module. It'll make a 6MB
unit out of a 2MB 200LX, or 5 MB from a 1MB unit. It'll work fine with a
2X speed upgrade, and requires no software.

I've lowered the price to $50. Let me know.

Otherwise, it stays in stock till I get a second 200LX for myself.

Eben

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:53:17 EDT
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
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In a message dated 4/20/1999 11:43:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
childers@GARLIC.COM writes:

> > And yes, my 300LX serves me very well as a paper weight ;-)
>
>  I used to use my 320LX as an alarm clock, before I sold it.  <g>
>
But the batteries don't last NEARLY as long if you do that.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:24:54 -0500
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              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...)
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-----Original Message-----
From: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net <fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Dan Ridenhour
<driden@STLNET.COM>
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...)


>> But, as long as we're dreamin' -
>

The Palmax is basically a Libretto with a touch screen.  While the libretto
is a nice
unit (I use one myself) its not a replacement for the 200lx.  The battery
life is that of
a notebook not a handheld. :(

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

>
>Check out:
>
>http://www.palmax.com/index2_e.html
>
>A bit big and it does need a docking station apparently.
>

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:24:56 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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From:         Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
Subject:      For sale: PALMTOP HP 200 LX 2Mg
Comments: To: Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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For sale: PALMTOP HP 200 LX 2Mg,
+ 1 Mg upgrade (=3Mg)
+ rechargeable batteries,
+ power supply,
+computer link (cable+software DOS/Windows)
+ 10MG flash card (20 MB Compressed),
+ leather case,
+ All doc ...
asking AU$680 for this unit in perfect condition. see it @
http://www.hp.com/jornada/palmtops/palmtops.html
in Melbourne/Australia

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:24:02 -0700
Reply-To:     camba1@pacbell.net
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Subject:      Re: Successor to 200LX and Windows CE
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David Sargeant wrote:
>
> You know, if it wasn't for Windows CE, even the 320LX *would* be a good
> successor for the 200LX.  Hardware-wise, it's a great machine.  The SH-3
> CPU could prove trouble for running DOS, but let's put that aside for a
> moment.  The keyboard is decent, and a lot closer to a desktop keyboard
> than the 200LX.  The screen is absolutely gorgeous, and when you remove
> the touch screen layer, the contrast is probably twice as good as the
> 200LX's.  The backlight is great and the double flash sockets are
> extremely useful.  The 360LX and the later color machines would
> probably be even better.  Granted, they're bigger and battery life
> isn't as good, but I think many 200LX users would probably be able
> to put up with that.  BUT...
>
> All the great hardware is crippled by an operating system that has
> virtually no application support (other than what Microsoft decides to put
> on there... boy, talk about a monopoly!  Why isn't there a POCKET
> WORDPERFECT IN ROM, HUH?) and can't even keep up with simple typing.  What
> a waste.
>
> Those ROMs pop right out, too.  One of you enterprising hardware types
> should put all the necessary PC hardware that the 320LX is lacking on a
> ROM boa and market that.  <g>
>
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Right on Dav I agree with you all the way. I have a HP95LX,HP200LX and
HP320LX

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:53:20 EDT
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP
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In a message dated 4/20/1999 05:27:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
childers@GARLIC.COM writes:

> It's thanks to my boss that the Pilot has the hardware architecture it
>  does.

Geez -- couldn't you persuade him to draw up DOS compatible architecture?

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:22:28 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...)
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> But, as long as we're dreamin' -


Check out:

http://www.palmax.com/index2_e.html

A bit big and it does need a docking station apparently.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:01:53 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, zimm4@JUNO.COM
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From:         Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: WinCE . . . PalmPilot pretty nice

When I was debating a handheld "unit", my only consideration was between
a 200lx and a PalmPilot.  I really think the two are cut from the same
cloth as far as the fun and usefulness factor goes.

I spent a lot of time roaming the Internet for stuff on both and found
the PalmPilot to have thousands of useful software available.  It is
amazing what those who've been caught in its spell can do when given a
measly 10K to program in.  Someone has figured out how to do just about
everything with it.  It reminds me of the old Classic Victorinox - not a
lot of blades but enough to fix anything.

I did go with the 200lx instead though.  The keyboard is nicer than the
touch screen/grafiti interface.  Having WordPerfect 5.1 available was a
huge selling point as was Lotus and the database utility.  The games I
liked on PalmPilot were available for the 200lx as well.  AND, the people
on this list were far more helpful and nice than those I met wandering
Palm circles.

I like my 200lx but I wouldn't sell the Palms short.  Besides, any enemy
of WinCE is a friend of mine.

Larry Zimmerman

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:50:28 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, zimm4@JUNO.COM
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From:         Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Looking for a Utility

I've got a Win95 utility that I use to reformat data files and I really
like it.  I would, however, like it even more if it were something usable
on the 200lx with batch files.

The program can reformat any fixed length or comma delimitted file
according to the user's specifications in separate text configuration
files.

I played around with making a similar tool in Perl and it works fine but
still not suitable to the palmtop.  I've looked in my "Learn C in a
Nanosecond" books and they make my head spin.  It occurred to me that
maybe something already exists or someone here could point me in a
direction for figuring out how to "roll my own."

The program I'm using now is called ASCIIsort and I just found it on
www.shareware.com with a search of ASCII.  Can't give better directions
to it right now.

Thanks in advance.

Larry Zimmerman

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:08:53 EDT
Reply-To:     GSmoot1938@aol.com
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From:         Gary Smoot <GSmoot1938@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: FS: Zoom Pocket Modem
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I'vve been looking for a pocket modem, but kind of gave up on it.
But I will go $30 total.

Demon

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:53:16 EDT
Reply-To:     Cavendishl@aol.com
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!)
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If we were all using our Collins dictionaries, we would have learned that re
means, "With reference to," and comes from Latin.  Re is the ablative
(roughly, possessive) tense of the word "res" which means "thing."

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
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In a message dated 4/20/1999 12:02:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
david@HPLX.NET writes:

> > Is it possible to write a program ( <knuckles dragging...> me not
>  > programmer, me user) that creates _all_ possible Icons?  I imagine
>  > that allowing for the width and height (44 x 32) of an HP Icon, the
>  > permutations would come to something like 78,962,960,182,680.7
>  >
>  > I figure I'm good for about 100,000 or so this year. :)
>
Yes, and with an infinite number of monkeys with type writers, you  will
eventually write all the great books.  But who wants the job of sorting
through all the losers looking for the gems>

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:55:37 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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I found this URL in the news groups.
http://www.respublica.fr/sphinxdev/
Alain
Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:44:57 GMT
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              Ace Frehley <alaskan@V-WAVE.COM>
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Subject:      Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP
Comments: To: Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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The bottom line rules, HP is also shedding alot of the lower end
products, printers etc, expecting the dealers who sell them to also
fix them...=20

You get what you pay for?

What can you expect in the future?

If only the president of the company could get your emails...

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:33:02 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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>Yep.  It won't happen.  But it would be nice <g>

Hi List

I STRONGLY disagree with part of the above statement  (apologies Dan :)) I
STRONGLY AGREE with part of the above statement.  How do you feel?

Question::  What would it take to create this or similar dream machine?

Time?
Team?
Design?
Support?
Finance?
Software?
Marketing?

If in the near future this type of product existed do you know of any
company/team or individual that is more likely to have brought it into being
than right here?

I ask.... what if?

We were to form a development team?

Would you contribute?

How?

"We" being a group that contributes what you can and reaps rewards accordingly.

If you as a consumer were able to custom order a replacement to the beloved
200LX what would you want included?

For this you would have paid?

Recommended to friends?

Dreams are wonderful. What would it take to  get into action?

Respectfuly posed questions

Russell

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:24:52 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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hi david,
you are right.
why the 200LX is so good?
It's not only the hardware.
It's because so many people where adding new fonction year after year (day
after day).

The future is a dos only LX.
I mean running sysmanger on any PC (palmtop or desktop).

It's because you don't have to change the machine every 6 month after
upgrading your OS.
I like the fact I will be able to use my palmtop next year without thinking it's
obsolet.
If you still want to use windows 3.0 or 3.11, you are leaving in another age,
because there is no new program for this "OS".
yes windows 3.11 is dead, yes windows 95 is (near) dead, yes windows NT
4 is (near) dead, but I will not be able to run the next microsoft OS on my PC.
OH, yes DOS is not dead.
Alain
> All the great hardware is crippled by an operating system that has
> virtually no application support (other than what Microsoft decides to put
> on there... boy, talk about a monopoly!  Why isn't there a POCKET
> WORDPERFECT IN ROM, HUH?) and can't even keep up with simple typing.  What
> a waste


Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:20:09 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Hi All:

     Just wanted to let you all know that I just released the HPLX-L
for the second time today! That means over 150 messages were sent to
the LIST.

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
*Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124     |___/        Team 200LX

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:28:17 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 Cavendishl@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 4/20/1999 05:27:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> childers@GARLIC.COM writes:
>
> > It's thanks to my boss that the Pilot has the hardware architecture it
> >  does.
>
> Geez -- couldn't you persuade him to draw up DOS compatible architecture?

Unfortunately, I wasn't with the company at that point in time.
Otherwise, you can be sure that I would have spoke up!  <g>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:24:27 -0400
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              "Walter G. Horbert" <wgh@MAIL.CAPS.MAINE.EDU>
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From:         "Walter G. Horbert" <wgh@MAIL.CAPS.MAINE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!)
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Oh please, it's use in *email* predates microsoft!

'Regarding' is it's traditional meaning, at least to one who has been
reading
email since the mid-seventies...

W.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of
> Phil Drummond
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 11:37 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!)
>
>
> It's a Microsoft-ism meaning Reply.  The proof is in this test.  Open an
> original post select the Reply icon, button, or what have you.
> Input, send,
> and wait.  Identify your input and observe the addition to the
> topic, placed
> there by M$ (ok, yes a lot of mail and news programs, not M$ do
> it also :).
> It must mean "Reply".  I just think of it as "not the original post".
>
> Phil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paal Rasmussen SMTP:paal@AH.TELIA.NO
> >
> > about the meaning of the term Re: as seen in the subject line of this
> > message for example.
> >
>
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:28:29 -0500
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              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Eben Rubin <erubin@POL.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 10:11 PM
Subject: 4 MB Memory module-again


>I have an "extra" new/unused 4MB plug-in memory module. It'll make a 6MB
>unit out of a 2MB 200LX, or 5 MB from a 1MB unit. It'll work fine with a
>2X speed upgrade, and requires no software.
>
>I've lowered the price to $50. Let me know.
>
>Otherwise, it stays in stock till I get a second 200LX for myself.

Do you know if this board will work in a 1000cx?  2mb Version?

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com


>
>Eben
>
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:30:00 -0700
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              Jim Johnson <jim.johnson@PHXASE.ALLIED.COM>
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Eben Rubin wrote:
>
> I have an "extra" new/unused 4MB plug-in memory module. It'll make a 6MB
> unit out of a 2MB 200LX, or 5 MB from a 1MB unit. It'll work fine with a
> 2X speed upgrade, and requires no software.
>
> I've lowered the price to $50. Let me know.
>
> Otherwise, it stays in stock till I get a second 200LX for myself.
>
> Eben
>
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        How hard is it to install the 4MB plug-in memory module. If it is
not too difficult I would be interested.
 -
          Jim Johnson
AlliedSignal Engineering Laboratory
         Phoenix, Arizona
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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:28:53 -0500
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              mikeg <mikeg@WANS.NET>
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As promised, I wrote to Azusa Kanayama about his backlit 200LX - excerpts
of his reply are below.  I told him how to join this list, which he may do
in another week as he is going out of town.  Since we live in the same
town, he suggested we meet and discuss our machines over a beer some time.

Mike Goggin

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When I was in Japan, I was a member of HP200LX "maniac" user group.  They
designed the custom inverter and EL panel for 200LX.  We shared the
development cost and actual parts cost.  It was about..$50 (US$).

Unfortunately, these parts are not available now.

By using the above custom inverter and EL panel, no external battery are
needed, just two AAs are needed.

In my feeling, if I use back-lite all the time, the battery life will be
about half to third.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:14:21 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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>Microsoft did not "invent" business correspondence (havn't mastered
it
>either if you are following the anit-trust litigation).  Microsoft
didn't
>even "invent" e-mail so RE could hardly be a microsoft-ism except
under
>the most imaginative of revisionist history.
>
>Re is a shortened form of the Latin "In Re" meaning "In the affair;
in
>the matter of; concerning; regarding."  Such usage is still common in
>virtually all legal correspondance of a formal nature and informally
in


Thanks for that excellent clarification Larry, you beat me to it.

Isn't it sad that already the history of the written word is being
accredited to Microsoft.

I notice with my eldest son (19) that the spoken word has degenerated
to guttural grunts and blasphemies (no I'm not an evangelist 8-)  ).
I can only hope to save my youngest son from reverting to the spoken
and written word of the caveman.

Regards to all.......Liam

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:25:29 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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Ideas for POST/LX:

* Option to show message size (including attachment) in message list.

* Ability to sort in size order. From time to time I clean up my
  messages to save disk space. If they were size ordered then I could
  just judge the first ones for removal.


      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:25:31 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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> Nicholas Chan wrote:
> > Something I feel that should be implimented is email syncing, somethin=
g like the 3Com

...

> POST/LX is a self-contained email software package and not just a
> desktop-add-on. For that reason, there is no desktop counterpart that
> it could sync with.

...

> Andreas

Hear, hear!
I was once obsessed with the idea to sync with Lotus Notes.
But soon I realised that I didnt have to. I do ALL my email
and appointment on my hp200lx.
If You have Lotus Notes and whant the mail that is coming there to
go to Your HP, then You just write a Agent that forward Your mail
to the email adress that You use with WWW/LX
(Its quite easy to create a Agent in Lotus Notes, ask me if You run
into problem)

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:29:55 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Is anyone writing posts to news.hplx.net using PNR and LXNNTP? If so, how
are you going about doing it? With Rod Whitby's help, I am able to access my
local news server and the access news.hplx.net to download news for reading,
but I can't seem to figure out how to be able to post to news.hplx.net and
also to my ISP's local news server. Anyone want to offer some guidance?

73 Jeff
    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:28:22 GMT
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              Curtis Cameron <curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET>
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Subject:      Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP
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Alchemist wrote:

>HP in many ways is not the company it once was.  It used to be an
>'enginnering' company where their talented engineers would develop
>outstanding and real-world useable products.

I assume you've heard that HP is splitting into an as yet-unnamed
measurement company, and a computing/imaging company. I started with
HP in 1983, when we in the measurement part were about half the
company.

Here's my take on the split: HP's businesses have been diverging for
some time now. Our traditional company had a high vertical integration
(everything in the product was done at HP). There was lots of effort
spent on R&D. We didn't sell train loads of anything, but we had a
good profit on each product. Marketing was basically a direct sales
force.

But since HP got into printers and PC's (late 80's), there has been a
shift in these. Technology development? It's handled by Microsoft,
Canon, and Intel. Sales? CompUSA et al. What gets done by HP? Well,
they buy some parts (printer engines, microprocessors, operating
systems) and put them together with lots of marketing. They have lots
of revenue, but margins are very tight.

After the split, the new company will be more like the former, and
what's still called HP will be the latter. By the way, to get an idea
of how the new HP is less vertically integrated, compare these
numbers. HP's revenues will be split at about $40B vs. $8B. However,
the 120,000 employees will be split at about 75,000 vs. 45,000.

--=20
Curtis Cameron
WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 05:11:31 GMT
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              Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
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Subject:      Re: FS: Zoom Pocket Modem
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> Hi,
>
> I've got a Zoom 14.4 kbps Pocket Modem for sale.

<snip>

>  It looks like the HP F1011A Adapter would work with it
> but I haven't tried it.

i have one of these modems on my bedside table <G> and use it regularly
for my 200LX. I can confirm that the HP Adapter will work with the
modem.

GaryS

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Date:         Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:41:50 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: WinCE . . . PalmPilot pretty nice
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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Larry Zimmerman wrote:

> When I was debating a handheld "unit", my only consideration was
> between a 200lx and a PalmPilot.  I really think the two are cut from
> the same cloth as far as the fun and usefulness factor goes.

I agree... and the PalmPilot's tiny size is pretty slick.  I'm actually
tempted to get one of the Palm VII's with built-in wireless messaging...
but probably not.  Too expensive.

In any case, the thing that kills the PalmPilot for me is the lack of a
keyboard like the 200LX's.  I know there are add-on keyboards for the
Pilot, but since I do a whole bunch of word processing on the palmtop
(wrote a six-page geology report today at work after using HV to do the
research on the web, all while my desktop was being tied up via
pcANYWHERE by our accounting software people in Pennsylvania... I love
this little computer <g>) I absolutely have to have the keyboard.  Nice as
Graffiti is, it's not anywhere near as fast as the 200LX keyboard for me.

> I like my 200lx but I wouldn't sell the Palms short.  Besides, any
> enemy of WinCE is a friend of mine.

I'll drink to that!  <g>

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:22:02 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Source for old Station 100 base shells

Hi all,

  I got quite a few private email requests for my source of old Station
100 base shells, so I thought it best to simply post the info to the list
for all to see.

  First of all, these shells are just that... "shells". They don't have
any supporting hardware, plugs or even the clip that used to fit into it.
I was lucky since the rep that helped me did manage to find an old clip
laying round and included it with my shell. (He's since left the firm.)

  From what I can tell, the clip really didn't work that well anyway, and
it isn't actually necessary for the simple slide-in connection that the
base shell provides.

  My source who claims to have approximately 40-50 Station 100 base
shells gathering dust is Calculating Edge at 1-800-677-7001. The rep I
originally talked to offered one to me for $10 + $4 S/H.

  It appears that a whittled down HP200LX plug casing on the standard
HP200LX connectivity cable will fit into the Station 100 base shell well,
but for those of you who would rather attempt to restore that shell to
it's original state, here is some alleged info that you could check out
for accuracy:

  Word has it that the original internal cable that was used in that base
to provide a standard serial plug receptacle on the back of the base for
easy industry standard serial cable connection was supplied in quantity
by Enhanced Cable at 1-408-232-0200 with a part number of 104-09103. It
supposedly was a 10 pin to 9 pin 5 foot cable that was housed inside the
base.

  I'm not sure how accurate that original cable and plug info really is
and I don't believe that Enhanced Cable normally deals in anything but
large quantities. I abruptly stopped researching this once I realized
just how easy it would be to whittle down the HP200LX serial plug casing
on the original HP200LX serial connection cable to fit snuggly into the
base shell and then simply run the cable out of the back of the base for
a direct connect to a desktop's serial port.

  If anyone decides to research additional source info for the Shell's
other original components for whatever reason, please let me know what
you find out.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
President of DataVault Co.
A Division of AFCIS, Inc.
Member of the Michigan RBS Assoc

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:42:18 +0930
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Subject:      Re: Smtpserv
Comments: To: John Musielewicz <a123456@bitstream.net>

John Musielewicz writes:
> I tested this on the 200LX and it works. All it does is recieve mail
> though. Can it be expanded? An actual mail server on the 200LX.

It's open source, so it certainly can be expanded.  It just takes
someone to do it :-)
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:12:11 -0400
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From:         Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: alarm in AppMgr
Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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> There is a hidden file named ALARM.Q (in _DAT). It may be corrupted. If
> you delete it, the problem may go away.

I saw it but didn't dare delete it :)
I'll do so now. Thanks.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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> My question:
> Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must
> unzip a html before loading it (if the html is
> called by a link _or_ by input of a file name)?

Try DIET.EXE which can run as TSR and compresses files. If
it's TSR it will decompress files automatically (fast !)
and compress them again if you follow instructions in the
doc's. Backup your machine before since I don't know how it may
interfere with your other software.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:37:17 +0100
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Byron Cook wrote:
> Has anyone considered the use of vCalendar or iCalendar to link the HP200LX

You can expect to see some vCalendar (actually iCalendar) support in
future versions of D&A products as we are currently looking into it.
Don't expect it to be too soon though.

You may also expect that MS will "improve" the standard so that non-MS
products cannot handle vCalendar stuff sent by their products :-(

Andreas

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:37:18 +0100
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aguze118 wrote:
> Has anyone had success with the Japanese end of the browser. It seems that I
> was only able to locate the Dsp1402 and not the DSP1204a file but I don't know
> if that makes a difference.

I believe that makes the difference work/not work.

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Tomas Moberg wrote:
> Ideas for POST/LX:
>
> * Option to show message size (including attachment) in message list.

Would you go for a  v e r y  s l o w  message list to get that? POST/LX
would have to read through all of the text to provide that information.
Would it really be useful? What for? I have been tended to implement it
but then I found no real other reason apart from "others have it too".
Any suggestions?

> * Ability to sort in size order. From time to time I clean up my
> messages to save disk space. If they were size ordered then I could
> just judge the first ones for removal.

So you remove the big messages and not the unimportant ones?

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:57:56 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Snake Icon
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> Here's my try at a Snake icon...

Nice Icon...

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:57:43 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Chris,

> I thought I'd pipe up here with some experiences I've had in the past.
> Large chunks, or even entire messages, would be blank when viewed in
> Post, yet clearly visible in the external editor.  I sent one or two
> examples to Avi at the time, but he didn't offer any explanation for
> this behaviour.

When was that? I do not recall such a message. Sorry...

  Avi M. D&A

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> Microsoft did not "invent" business correspondence (havn't mastered it
> either if you are following the anit-trust litigation).  Microsoft didn't
> even "invent" e-mail so RE could hardly be a microsoft-ism except under
> the most imaginative of revisionist history.

I think that in the next elections, Microsoft will claim that Al Gore worked
for Microsoft when he invented the Internet, no? :)

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:57:53 -0700
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Apul,

> I have always thought that it followed the old legal jargon, (latin based)
> and meant roughly Regarding, whereas it seems recent usage (RFC's etc)
> would have it mean something  Reply.
> I know you as a knowledgeable and vocal lot, so how about it? What does
> those two letters mean to y'all??

I don't know the root of the term really, but I have always seen it used, and
use it myself, in the meaning of "regarding such and such..." or in the
meaning of "in reference to such and such...".

  Avi M. D&A

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Phil,

> Is it possible to write a program ( <knuckles dragging...> me not
> programmer, me user) that creates _all_ possible Icons?  I imagine that
> allowing for the width and height (44 x 32) of an HP Icon, the permutations
> would come to something like 78,962,960,182,680.7 (find that with your CE
> palmtop }:)  Allowing for most of them to be "junk" there would be a number
> of them left as useful.  If the members of the list all had this program and

There is a similar famous one: If you take an infinite number of monkeys and
give them each a typewriter to bang on (or a 200LX, will last longer...) and
allocate an infinite amount of time to them doing what they do, is it possible
that they will come up with Shakespeare's sonnets? :)

  Avi M. D&A

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Bennett,

> Could be, for the kind of work you do. I don't do that kind of work. Perl is
> not designed for that kind of work. If your work can't stand the light of day,
> you probably better look for something other than perl to do it in.
>
> > I would never include passwords in programs - that is well, at least dumb...
>
> That was your example, not mine. I agree, it's terribly, terribly dumb.

I think i am confused again.

I said that I want to do some Perl programs and wanted to turn them into an
executable code. I was told don't do it. (you did the same now too). I was
advised to keep my perl scripts in source form.

I explained that I really did not want to do it because I did some process
with the input that I did not wish to share. The methodology was very
important to keep away from public eye. Again I was told that it is safest to
keep it in source form.

That is strange to me. I answered with a complete hypothetical: Suppose part
of my process was to access some other site to get data, which among others
included someone's credit cards. If the source was available to the world to
read, then ANYONE with 25% of cranial capacity can follow the same route, get
at the info and cause damage.

Now, I am again being told that it is not safe to make Perl scripts an
executable. Fine. No one except you gives a hint why not. You alluded to
something like "wrapping Perl code in and executable." What exactly do you
mean? Do you mean the Perl stuff is somehow tokenized and then really executed
from tokens rather than source?

How do other webpages do their stuff? Many of them take faily confidential
information using SOMETHING. Many use SSL and other such things. But many do
not. How do they guard against people peering into their Perl scripts, or
other scripts for that matter?

Am I to conclude that if a cgi-bin directory has an execute only right to
groups and the world that ANYONE can break into the directory and look at it?

I thought Perl executes on the SERVER side, hence it will not be something
present on the CLIENT machine. So how would anyone get into the cgi-bin
directory protected as I described?

I am sorry I am so dense, but I hear the same admonition over and over again,
but there is not explanation going along with it, and I am curious.

> > But various methodology would be tough to discern from an executable vs.
> > open source.
>
> I don't know quite what you mean by that.

What I meant is that I process some information in ways that I do not wish to
share with the world. Contrived Example: Someone states as input that they use
Netscape Browser. I want to look in the variables and confirm, but I do not
want to tell the world I am doing this. If the Perl script was in source and
ANYONE in the world could read it then ANYONE could see the methodology, i.e.
that I was checking on this.

I thought, maybe incorrectly, but I don't understand _why_ it is incorrect,
that if the Perl program was in the for of an executable, that it was
substantially more difficult to see what the method is.

In fact, I thought that if NO ONE in the world could READ the directory whenre
that Perl program was (but could execute it), that it would provide another
safety net.

> > > So don't do it. If you can't release your code in perl source, don't release
> > > it in executable; there's no useful difference in security.
> >
> > Really? You mean these programs can be retrofitted?
>
> How do you mean "retrofitted"? Do you mean "reverse engineered", or perhaps
> "decompiled"? If so, the answer is yup, programs for doing that were an old
> hat when I was first starting with computers around 1980.

Sorry, yes. I meant reverse engineered not retrofitted. Decompiled was another
better term of course.

Yes, I am aware (and used, even last week) programs to decompile. Still, it
would take tons of work. And still, the method may not be apparent even then.

How about access to the directory where these programs reside?

> > How do sites that have critical work do it in Perl?
>
> Sites do major critical work in perl all the time. They write the programs to
> do what they need, in a suitable language; often that language is perl (with
> modules added as needed to customize the language until it's a good fit for
> the problem domain).
>
> Then they release their programs, if that's what they want to do, or they
> don't, if they don't. It's really quite simple.

Huh? I have no idea what you are saying here. I am not sure where you come
from in this statement. One of the good people here wrote a 2x,000 line Perl
program recently for some compnay. You claim it is advisable to release the
code for all to see? I am really a little confused by the scope of the
statement, and do not quite know how far reaching you mean that... If a
commercial development in Perl is the livelihood of a company should they just
release it for the world to see, copy, use whatever? Is this how you meant it?

  Avi M. D&A

PS - Don't think I am not appreciating immensely that you are patient with me!
I know you are... And I am grateful.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:11:35 -0700
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> Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must
> unzip a html before loading it (if the html is
> called by a link _or_ by input of a file name)?

How about a batch file that unzips a file whose name is in a variable, then
open HV and input that html name?

 (Mostly) untested batch file name viewhtml.bat::

 Pkunzip %1
 hv %1.htm

To use enter:

viewhtml lesson1

Assuming that lesson1.zip contains lesson1.htm

May need a bit of work around the edges... But it's a start. I also know it is
not nearly as sexy as using all these newfangled neat programs, but it seems
to be an overkill to load up another program when a simple tool which exists
on the palmtop can do as good a job (I mean batch files.)

(I just thought of an addition to the batch file: At the end, after HV add

 del %1.htm

So you regain the space.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:57:23 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Backlit 200LX
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>When I was in Japan, I was a member of HP200LX "maniac" user group.  They
>designed the custom inverter and EL panel for 200LX.  We shared the
>development cost and actual parts cost.  It was about..$50 (US$).


:-) I like this maniac stuff. Japanese engineering is generally very good!
How many members?

>Unfortunately, these parts are not available now.

Replacement parts should be able to be found. Maybe better/smaller/need less
juice.

>By using the above custom inverter and EL panel, no external battery are
>needed, just two AAs are needed.

Where did he fit the inverter? Is there any spare place in the 200Lx. The EL
backlight could be fitted by placing a distance ring around the lid, between
the two halves.

>In my feeling, if I use back-lite all the time, the battery life will be
>about half to third.

Mmm, about laptop time?

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I just converted an ICN to PCX using lxpic. Then I converted
the PCX to GIF and JPG using Paint Shop Pro. File sizes are:

ICN =3D  200 bytes
PCX =3D  368 bytes
GIF =3D  218 bytes
JPG =3D 1231 bytes

this is not surprising for me as I know the basics of each
format. If you want to have HV to display ICN files, you only
have to add a line to the Viewers section of HV.CFG:

ICN=3DLXPIC %s

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-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 21. april 1999 05:17
Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...)


>Question::  What would it take to create this or similar dream machine?

Dedication and blinders. You know, the type horses use...

>Time?

Well, people have time to draw snake icons... :-)

>Team?

No problem, seem to have seen hw & sw engineers on the list.

>Design?

KISS.

>Support?

Hard part.

>Finance?

People spend quite a lot on their gadgets, seems to me.

>Software?

DR-DOS. Networking, multitasking, compatible with MS-DOS too. Internet would
be simple then. Or Linux?

>Marketing?

Web/word of mouth.

>If in the near future this type of product existed do you know of any
>company/team or individual that is more likely to have brought it into
being
>than right here?

A no-name company nobody has heard of before.

>We were to form a development team?

People have already one job. And family. Usually. But it would be something
to add it to one's cv!

>Would you contribute?

Yes.

>How?

Mmm, not so smart, unfortunately. My electronics is 10 years old, no sw
programming knowledge, little financial power.

>"We" being a group that contributes what you can and reaps rewards
accordingly.

>If you as a consumer were able to custom order a replacement to the beloved
>200LX what would you want included?

Mmm, lets think about that.

>For this you would have paid?

I don't know really.

>Recommended to friends?

That I would.

>Dreams are wonderful. What would it take to  get into action?

One would have to get of one's arse! :-)

br

Franklin

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I was surprised by the response generated by my ravings. I am not alone
in my disappointment that HP has abandoned its roots. The HP brand *was*
a symbol of engineering excellence. I was willing to pay more for the
product because I knew the standards of quality HP stood for. Recently
HP announced that they were splitting the company, to return to their
roots. Members of this group are a part of those roots. We are customers
who recognize the value of quality engineering. We are willing to spend
the extra 10-20% to get a truly superior product. We are not sheep.

Thaddeus sells their *Hand-made* 64 meg 200 for $1175.00. I don't know
how many they sell, but imagine what HP could produce for
that price. The problem is that they wouldn't sell that many. At least
not enough to convince the bean-counters and share holders.

What we need to do is convince HP that they need to produce a flagship
product. Something like the Plymouth Prowler. Such a product would by
definition be low production and not a real money maker. It would be
a product that shows HP engineering and design is second to none.
It would be a product whose purpose is to show what can be done, not
make buckets of money. It would be a product that people like us would
lust after and buy.

My question is: How do we convince HP that they need products like that
to maintain their image? A company dedicated to quality listens to its
customers. We can choose to speak with one voice so that we can be
heard, or we can remain silent and let the vision die.

Which will it be?

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Tomas,

> * Option to show message size (including attachment) in message list.

How will you use it?

> * Ability to sort in size order. From time to time I clean up my
>   messages to save disk space. If they were size ordered then I could
>   just judge the first ones for removal.

Hmmmm... Bigger is worse? Not if you ask HP re Wince machines! :) I have about
20,000 messages on the palmtop now (yes, 20,000 approximately). And I go over
stuff on an on going basis and delete, delete, delete... It comes in faster
than I delete it :( ...

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A little info about how other little projects...


Linux was developed openly. Why not some hardware developed openly?

There is a shareware hardware concept functioning today, re Garmin GPS
connectors by Purple Open Project, www.pfranc.com. This seems to work ok,
got 2 connectors up front. This guy has/had access and know-how to mold
non-standard plastic connectors. Comes in a bag with 2 plastic parts, screw
and sockets.

There is a lot of consumer/industrial electronics being made, something
should be able to be built. A quick scan of one of these large electronics
catalogs shows a lot of interesting stuff. Seems basically that one just
needs to sew things together, more so than 15 years ago! I said 10 in an
earlier post, but then I started counting... :-(

Again, DR-DOS, www.caldera.com, could be licensed. MS-DOS compatible,
networking, multitasking, Webspyder web browser (or Avi & co could turn
their shirt sleeves up!) Best bet?

386/486? Nokia's new 9110 mobile telephone uses one, plus GEOS operating
system. GEOS is another candidate for a GUI, other than making the whole
thing browsable with WebSpyder or HV+. Must be licsensed. Second.

What about the BIOS? Any pd/shareware/alternative BIOS projects around?
MR-BIOS was bought out, wasn't it? Or could one copy a bios on an old
trashed pc one had? Legality? That's going to make a lot of support
problems, everybody running a different bios.

I assume Pentiums are out of the picture, not a reliable source and too
power hungry. All I hear about are 1/2/3/486s in industrial systems, they
are still produced/large amounts in stock. Are there any low power Pentiums
about? Not laptop type low power versions. The Elektor (actually sister mag,
Swedish AoE) magazine has a 80186 microcontroller project starting now. Only
64 KB though!

Backlit, VGA modules are found in different sizes. Driver chips? Colour?
Power usage?

There is also PT-DOS, http://www.phystechsoft.com/en/ , from Russia, also
something called Free-DOS, don't know where that is. Outsider.

Also, there was an Omnigo 100 "wish-list" of wanted sw, I think they also
had a "rogue's gallery" too! Maybe someting for the SUPER site?

Unless one skips the sw, just produce a lp dos-compatible pc.

br

Franklin

(Little to do at work today, it seems...)

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Batteries: Prismatic cells, they are square and therefore possible to save
space/increase capacity. Gone is possibility of batteries every where any
time.

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>* A real parallel port (of course with 2 slots we could add one)
>As long as we are heading that way, why not USB, then you could use alot of
>devices.


I heard that MS is pushing USB 2.0 as a possibility of having a universal
docking station for all laptops/pdas. Just one plug into the dockingstation
and one has access to everything, network, screen, keyboard whatever. USB
1.x that we have now is a bit slow for screens, so there is talk of a faster
USB. We might as well use FireWire then?

br

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Any ideas of where I can get that file? I tried the Japanese site listed in
the documentation and some other sites but no luck. I believe it's called
dsp1402a.lzh
Thanks
Tony

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If you get get news you should be able to post. Just select
Post instead of mail and use the correct newsgroup name

Jeff Johns writes:
> Is anyone writing posts to news.hplx.net using PNR and LXNNTP? If so, how
> are you going about doing it? With Rod Whitby's help, I am able to access my
> local news server and the access news.hplx.net to download news for reading,
> but I can't seem to figure out how to be able to post to news.hplx.net and
> also to my ISP's local news server. Anyone want to offer some guidance?
>
> 73 Jeff
>     *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
>     |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
>     |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
>     |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
>     *------------------------------------------------------------------*
>
> Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED
>
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Subject:      Re: Backlit 200LX
Comments: To: mikeg <mikeg@WANS.NET>

1/2 to 1/3 is quite a bit. It would affect how well a person could
see the screen too outside and in low light so the backlight would
have to be used more. Its a nice idea though. Glad there's a possible
way to do it. Maybe he would post the inverter diagram and the EL
specs.


mikeg writes:
> As promised, I wrote to Azusa Kanayama about his backlit 200LX - excerpts
> of his reply are below.  I told him how to join this list, which he may do
> in another week as he is going out of town.  Since we live in the same
> town, he suggested we meet and discuss our machines over a beer some time.
>
> Mike Goggin
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> When I was in Japan, I was a member of HP200LX "maniac" user group.  They
> designed the custom inverter and EL panel for 200LX.  We shared the
> development cost and actual parts cost.  It was about..$50 (US$).
>
> Unfortunately, these parts are not available now.
>
> By using the above custom inverter and EL panel, no external battery are
> needed, just two AAs are needed.
>
> In my feeling, if I use back-lite all the time, the battery life will be
> about half to third.
>
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David Sargeant writes:
> On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote:
>
> > I personally like using a CE mini-notebook sized unit when traveling
> > since what I do most is email, write, and do small spreadsheets.  I
> > like to be able to touch type with instant on, light weight, and long
> > battery life.  However, I actually would rather have an enlarged
> > 200LX.
>
> I'd LIKE to be able to touch-type on my 320LX.  But I can't.  The 320LX is
> an excellent piece of hardware-- the screen is better than the 200LX's,
> especially when you remove the touch panel <g>.  But the OS is so slow
> that it's impossible to type on.  And one of the faster machines like a
> 620LX, which presumably has better response time, is too big to carry
> around in my pocket.  You just can't win...

What's wrong with typing on the 200LX? I can type with great speed on it.
It not even uncomfortable. You just make shorter strokes.
The only thing is I wish I could connect a larger screen. It would be
a lot easier to use at a desk.

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Stefan Peichl wrote:
> format. If you want to have HV to display ICN files, you only
> have to add a line to the Viewers section of HV.CFG:
>
> ICN=LXPIC %s

Actually, HV can display ICN files natively (because it was so easy to
implement <G>).

Andreas

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Hello Mitch, again

I know how to translate the ICN to GIF files. If you want, I can do it
and contribute to the project.

Regards,
Paulo

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Hi all,

Checked Intel low power embedded 486sx, at best it's using about 200mA at
2,2V at 25 MHz. Current just goes higher after that with higher
voltage/freq. But power saving modus like on the 200LX should better things
over time. FPUs are power drains usually.

Lets say screen/processor power is 50/50, then we get about total 400mA. Two
AAs at 1200mAh gives us 3 hours. No consideration for I/O yet.

I don't know about 386. Maybe AMD has something?

How about lobotomizing a HP360LX? :-) Change it's ROM? Better than the XTCE
project?

br

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>
>I don't know about 386. Maybe AMD has something?

Elan SC400. This has PCMCIA slot support, screen support, etc. built in and
was designed for low power applications.

----

On a more general note.....

Hey folks! here we go again. This seems to be a semi-annual event - building
the next 200LX ourselves. As always, the issue would be support for the
built-in apps. Probably by gutting a scrap 200 and dropping the ROM into the
new device and then writing code to trap the custom hardware accesses and
emulate them. And, as always, I'm willing to help out with this . (Drivers
are my life :-)

Mack, if I recall, started on a motherboard design. Haven't heard anything
lately. Has it run into a brick wall, Mack?

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I think AMD has lower powered. 486 at 8 is about 30 ma.


Franklin writes:
> Hi all,
>
> Checked Intel low power embedded 486sx, at best it's using about 200mA at
> 2,2V at 25 MHz. Current just goes higher after that with higher
> voltage/freq. But power saving modus like on the 200LX should better things
> over time. FPUs are power drains usually.
>
> Lets say screen/processor power is 50/50, then we get about total 400mA. Two
> AAs at 1200mAh gives us 3 hours. No consideration for I/O yet.
>
> I don't know about 386. Maybe AMD has something?
>
> How about lobotomizing a HP360LX? :-) Change it's ROM? Better than the XTCE
> project?
>
> br
>
> Franklin
>
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> the next 200LX ourselves. As always, the issue would be support for the
> built-in apps. Probably by gutting a scrap 200 and dropping the ROM into the

Why not use the apps out of the connectiveity pack. It has the phone, appointments,
database, hp calc.

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> Hi HP Staber/Salzburg & List Members
>
> Try running Scconfig, Personal Preference Items, Return To Pre-alarm
> Work Area and put: Yes
>
> HTH
>
> Regards,
>
> Qman...

Thanks. The fault was the hidden file ALARM.Q in c:\_dat
as Andreas mentioned.

Alarm is up and running again.

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>Elan SC400. This has PCMCIA slot support, screen support, etc. built in and
>was designed for low power applications.


:-) I will look for it.

>the next 200LX ourselves. As always, the issue would be support for the
>built-in apps. Probably by gutting a scrap 200 and dropping the ROM into
the

Why not just use the programs from the Conn. Pack? HP calc emulators are
available. Spreadsheet can be whatever one finds, same with PQ, then one
could run the last DOS version.

br

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Subject:      Dos task switching

Has anyone tried Dosamatic from the SUPER site? It is not a bad idea
it uses memory to multitask programs. Has anyone got it to use expanded
memory? It only uses convential for me which means it runs out of
space real fast.

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I don't use these. It never occurred to me - or to anyone else on this
list - before. What about alarms, though?

rick


>> the next 200LX ourselves. As always, the issue would be support for the
>> built-in apps. Probably by gutting a scrap 200 and dropping the ROM into
the
>
>Why not use the apps out of the connectiveity pack. It has the phone,
appointments,
>database, hp calc.
>
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Hi,

this one might be a nice toy for every 200LX user:
http://www.storage.ibm.com/hardsoft/diskdrdl/micro/

Robert

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Subject:      Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...)

You would need a tsr for alarms. I think there is one on the super
site. If you use DR-DOS as the rom dos you will have multitasking
so switching between programs is possible. HDM or a revised version
which supports multitasking could be used for an icon based interface.

Rick Kozak writes:
> I don't use these. It never occurred to me - or to anyone else on this
> list - before. What about alarms, though?
>
> rick
>
>
> >> the next 200LX ourselves. As always, the issue would be support for the
> >> built-in apps. Probably by gutting a scrap 200 and dropping the ROM into
> the
> >
> >Why not use the apps out of the connectiveity pack. It has the phone,
> appointments,
> >database, hp calc.
> >
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:47:48 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<I assume you've heard that HP is splitting into an as yet-unnamed
measurement company, and a computing/imaging company. I started with
HP in 1983, when we in the measurement part were about half the
company.

Here's my take on the split: HP's businesses have been diverging for
some time now. Our traditional company had a high vertical integration
(everything in the product was done at HP). There was lots of effort
spent on R&D. We didn't sell train loads of anything, but we had a
good profit on each product. Marketing was basically a direct sales
force.>>

I worked as a software engineer at HP from 1981 through 1984.  After
interviewing with lots of other companies, I was blown away by HP's
small company decentralized concept.  The division I interviewed at
engineered the hardware, developed the software, manufactured, and
marketed the HP 150 touchscreen.  It was all in one large space. Further
engineers really seemed to "run the place" -- in a bottom up kind of
hierarchy.

I left HP for a variety of personal and professional reasons (in part
because I wasn't a great engineer<g>, although I could have switched to
marketing).  I remain with great respect for the environment, the
intelligence and ethics of HP people. However, it seems HP has chosen
(been forced?) to take a different road to grow and compete in the
current market place.

Hal at Thaddeus

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:49:33 -0500
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<<What's wrong with typing on the 200LX? I can type with great speed on
it.
It not even uncomfortable. You just make shorter strokes.
The only thing is I wish I could connect a larger screen. It would be
a lot easier to use at a desk.>>

I agree, but I would rather type on a fuller sized keyboard, and as you
say have a larger screen.

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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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              1999 at 09:09:33PM +0200
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I don't recall adding such a file to SUPER. But I will! :)
--
Mitch
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Hal Goldstein writes:
> <<What's wrong with typing on the 200LX? I can type with great speed on
> it.
> It not even uncomfortable. You just make shorter strokes.
> The only thing is I wish I could connect a larger screen. It would be
> a lot easier to use at a desk.>>
>
> I agree, but I would rather type on a fuller sized keyboard, and as you
> say have a larger screen.

Ideally, for desktop use, one should be able to connect both a larger
screen and a larger keyboard. A real docking station would be really nice
to have. But for travel its the ideal size. It goes right in the pocket along
with the toothbrush and you are ready to go.

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On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> What's wrong with typing on the 200LX? I can type with great speed on
> it. It not even uncomfortable. You just make shorter strokes. The only
> thing is I wish I could connect a larger screen. It would be a lot
> easier to use at a desk.

Nothing's wrong with it.  I also type with great speed on it.  (Granted,
with SmartCaps turned on.)  And the 200LX keyboard is the best palmtop
keyboard I've ever used.  I'm just saying that if I could type as fast as
I can on the 200LX, on the 320LX, it would be a lot more useful.  But it's
nowhere close.  And it's not even the hardware's fault.  The response to
keystrokes is just so terrible that it's more like <type a word> <wait two
seconds> <type another word> <wait a second> <type another word> <wait
three seconds>...

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While some of us are discussing their dreams about the LX, I work hard to get more out of it. I currently use only half of the power the LX has. If I could use the infrared port, it would be more. I only can communicate with another LX or with a Jeteye, if I had one :-(

Shouldn't it be possible to communicate with standard IrdA ports? I have an IBM ThinkPad 760ED with 2 IrdA ports, one in front and one on the back. Why is there no driver to communicate with the LX? The ThinkPad supports IrdA and ASK (Sharp).

Does anybody have any idea or suggestion?

-goe-


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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:43:43 +0200
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> nowhere close.  And it's not even the hardware's fault.  The response to
> keystrokes is just so terrible that it's more like <type a word> <wait two
> seconds> <type another word> <wait a second> <type another word> <wait
> three seconds>...

Is there a way to speed it up? I thought CE was supposed to address the
hardware directly which should speed it up. Is there a setting for
that can be changed?

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:58:21 +0200
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              Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR
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Avi wrote:

> There is a similar famous one: If you take an infinite number of monkeys and
> give them each a typewriter to bang on (or a 200LX, will last longer...)
> and allocate an infinite amount of time to them doing what they do,
> is it possible that they will come up with Shakespeare's sonnets? :)

And in case you haven't seen the standard answer:

We already an infinite number of monkeys banging on keyboards - it's called
the Internet (or in some older versions of the answer, Usenet)

br
jez

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:42:29 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM>
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Did IBM change something about their infrared ports for the 760's?  My
ThinkPad 365XD offers several modes of operation.  Generic mode works just
great with my HP 200LX.  From the online help file:

Infrared Advanced Setup

(Some options may not be available, depending on your model.)

Operating mode

Select ThinkPad/Generic mode or Sharp mode depending on the  system you are
communicating with.

ThinkPad mode   This mode supports up to 1.15Mbps data transfer via a
ThinkPad unique interface. Select this mode when you transfer the data
from/to another ThinkPad. This mode exploits DMA channels as well as I/O
address and IRQ to support high speed transfer.

Generic mode    This mode supports up to 115Kbps data transfer via the COM
port interface. Select this mode when you use a generic infrared
communication device, such as Hewlett-Packard(**) Omnibook(**) 300 or HP
LX100/LX200(**) computer, or Mind Path(**) Remote Control IR55 F/X.  The COM
port must be assigned for this mode.


Note. The ThinkPad infrared device driver automatically selects the
appropriate mode (ThinkPad mode or generic mode) depending on the
communicating computer's infrared capability.


Sharp mode      This mode supports 9600bps data transfer via the COM port
interface. Select this mode when you use Sharp(**) Wizard PC(**)  or other
compatible computers.The COM port must be assigned for this mode.

        >From:  Stephan Goeldi SMTP:stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH
        >Sent:  Wednesday, April 21, 1999 10:52 AM
        >
        >While some of us are discussing their dreams about the LX, I work
hard to get more out of it. I currently use only half of the power the LX
has. If I could use the infrared port, it would be more. I only can
communicate with another LX or with a Jeteye, if I had one :-(

        >Shouldn't it be possible to communicate with standard IrdA ports? I
have an IBM ThinkPad 760ED with 2 IrdA ports, one in front and one on the
back. Why is there no driver to communicate with the LX? The ThinkPad
supports IrdA and ASK (Sharp).

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:34:57 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Survey

This is a short survey to judge the marketability of a replacement motherboard
for the Hewlett Packard 200LX Palmtop computer. Thank you for your
responses.

1. Would you be interested in a 486SX replacement motherboard for the
   200LX? If no, why not?


2. What would you be willing to pay for such an upgrade? Please be reasonable.


3. What features would you like?


4. Would the fact that a third party developed it affect the decision
   to purchase such a product?


5. How would you use such an upgrade?


To respond, use the reply option, make sure you are replying only
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:47:50 +0200
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> 1/2 to 1/3 is quite a bit. It would affect how well a person could
> see the screen too outside and in low light so the backlight would
> have to be used more. Its a nice idea though. Glad there's a possible
> way to do it. Maybe he would post the inverter diagram and the EL
> specs.

I think that 1/2 to 1/3 of the battery lifetime is still acceptable.
When using rechargebles, i think they should last at least one day,
so they can be recharged over night (when the user recharges,
too). I have to recharge every one to two weeks now (recharging
long before i get a battery-low message), so the factor 1/3 would be
absolutely no problem to me (and probably to a lot of other people,
who do not use their HPLX constantly 10 hours a day without AC-
Adapter).

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On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:50:28 -0500, Larry Zimmerman wrote:

>The program I'm using now is called ASCIIsort and I just found it on
>www.shareware.com with a search of ASCII.  Can't give better directions
>to it right now.

I went looking, but failed to find anything when searching for asciisort,
and searching for ascii returned hundreds of hits, none of which really
seemed to match your description. Is this a DOS program? Could you post =
the
actual zip file name which should be more easily located.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.demon.co.uk>
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Subject:      Re: Backlit 200LX
Comments: To: molitor@moli.franken.de

Reinhard Mueller writes:
> > 1/2 to 1/3 is quite a bit. It would affect how well a person could
> > see the screen too outside and in low light so the backlight would
> > have to be used more. Its a nice idea though. Glad there's a possible
> > way to do it. Maybe he would post the inverter diagram and the EL
> > specs.
>
> I think that 1/2 to 1/3 of the battery lifetime is still acceptable.
> When using rechargebles, i think they should last at least one day,
> so they can be recharged over night (when the user recharges,
> too). I have to recharge every one to two weeks now (recharging
> long before i get a battery-low message), so the factor 1/3 would be
> absolutely no problem to me (and probably to a lot of other people,
> who do not use their HPLX constantly 10 hours a day without AC-
> Adapter).

But you have to take into consideration just how long it takes to recharge
batteries in the 200LX. Even if you just use it an hour or two a day
you are doubling the drain on the batteries, so now instead of charging
6 hours you are charging ten hours. This means its no longer an overnight
charge while you sleep. And if you have no access to power over the
day there's no way to recoup the loss.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:38:12 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Avi, Andreas and list,

There is another thing what I miss in POST/LX.
It's a tiny thing for you, but a big thing for me:

It would be great if Post/LX would do a beep
after downloading all email (Goin' Postal does that,
for example).
So I could go out of the room, let POST/LX download
all the HPLX-L mail while I can do another thing
than watching the palmtop during these ten minutes.
And when I hear the beep I could come back and
shut down the connection to my ISP.
So I could save time and/or money.

And it would be good if there was a possibility to
let the modem hang up without quitting Post/LX.

GTX
daniel

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Germany
email: d.hertrich@gmx.de
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:58:50 -0400
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Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:54:07 +0100 (BST)

08m37s ago ...
On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:45:30 -0700 (CST), Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> And when I hear the beep I could come back and
> shut down the connection to my ISP.
> So I could save time and/or money.
>
> And it would be good if there was a possibility to
> let the modem hang up without quitting Post/LX.

Daniel, how did you set up POST/LX to work this way? I only *know* the
way I have it which is it automatically hangs up the ISP connection
when it has downloaded all mail, and stays in POST/LX, which seems
precisely the opposite to what you describe.

Regards, Tony

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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I use a program called CONVERT (found at the same www.shareware.com as
CONVR803.ZIP) on my LX to deal with problem data files and comma delimited
files....I don't know if this is what you're looking for...."ASCII" turns up a
lot of listings in shareware.com, so I don't really know what ASCIIsort does, by
comparison.

CONVERT lets you manipulate input data files of various formats by letting you
specify the type of changes you want using a control file that you edit.  Not
the easiest program to use, but easily the most versatile I've seen.

- Longden





Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM> on 04/20/99 06:50:28 PM

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Subject:  Looking for a Utility




I've got a Win95 utility that I use to reformat data files and I really
like it.  I would, however, like it even more if it were something usable
on the 200lx with batch files.

The program can reformat any fixed length or comma delimitted file
according to the user's specifications in separate text configuration
files.

I played around with making a similar tool in Perl and it works fine but
still not suitable to the palmtop.  I've looked in my "Learn C in a
Nanosecond" books and they make my head spin.  It occurred to me that
maybe something already exists or someone here could point me in a
direction for figuring out how to "roll my own."

The program I'm using now is called ASCIIsort and I just found it on
www.shareware.com with a search of ASCII.  Can't give better directions
to it right now.

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Sorry, I'm a pessimist:

> How do we convince HP that they need products like that to maintain their
image?

Their image is already shot...what's to maintain?

> ...or we can remain silent and let the vision die.

IMO, the vision died (at HP) a long time ago.

We're living on the borrowed time purchased by a good design and a talented
following.

If we ever get a new dream machine, I doubt that HP has the vision or gumption
to be the one responsible.

- Longden

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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> If You have Lotus Notes and whant the mail that is coming there to
> go to Your HP, then You just write a Agent that forward Your mail
> to the email adress that You use with WWW/LX
> (Its quite easy to create a Agent in Lotus Notes, ask me if You run
> into problem)

Tomas,

If the IT guys haven't changed your default permissions on the server, it's ever
easier than that to forward your Notes mail to your other e-mail address:

1. Select your own name in the main Notes Public Address Book.
2. Click on "Edit Person".
3. In the field "Forwarding address", type in the e-mail address you want your
mail to be re-routed to, for example: foo@bar.com
4. Click on "Save and Close".

From that point on, any mail sent to your Notes address will instead arrive at
your forwarding address. To change it back, simply go back and delete the entry
from "Forwarding address".

Can you write an agent that will send a *copy* of each Notes message to another
address? What are the step-by-step instructions to do that?

Bruce in Toronto

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Daniel,

> And it would be good if there was a possibility to
> let the modem hang up without quitting Post/LX.

To start post/lx like this:

    www.exe -d "!post"

This will the modem hang up, without quitting post/lx.

Regards

Helmuth

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> And when I hear the beep I could come back and
> shut down the connection to my ISP.

There is a preonline and postonline option which could be used to run a
batch file BEEP tupe program.

And as Tony, noted, my setup hangs up automatically after the online
run.  I believe it can be setup to stay online so that you could use HV
for browsing but mine normally hangs up the phoneline.

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I understand that you want replies to a particular mailbox, but I, for
one, would just as soon read others' replies here as well, and I
would be happy to post a copy of mine here if others agree...

John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> This is a short survey to judge the marketability of a replacement motherboard
> for the Hewlett Packard 200LX Palmtop computer. Thank you for your
> responses.
>
>
<snip>

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:39:00 -0500
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Subject:      100LX Memory improvement?

Howdy all,

I vaguely remember someone on the list saying the Hornet chip and guts to
the 100LX could support *2* PCMCIA cards (it was just a physical restriction
that kept you from plugging in....

Here's a question to all you guys who regularly take the 100LX apart and
solder things into it ;-)

Would there be any way to rig a Compact Flash (CF) card into the insides of
a 100LX?

I primarily use my 200LX and go the 100 for "multitasking" I may be
downloading HUGE emails and want to type a memo, whilst flat on the couch
(OK, I'm lazy sometimes ;-)   ) but would love to have my "poor" 1 MEG unit
to have the ability to mirror my vastly Thaddeus-improved 200LX.

Just a thought that came to me over lunch as I stared at my CF card and its
PC card adapter.....

Figured it would be nice to DoubleSpeed my 100LX *AND* give it a CF memory
"injection" at the same time, 'cause it seems pretty hard to use it
sometimes w/ less than 256K memory left over, AFTER moving my Phone Book and
Appts to the CF card I do have in a PC-card adapter....

Just thought I'd mention it'd be something I'd be willing to pay for, even
if the CF card were hard-wired or otherwise unrecoverable as long as it
worked to its full ability in the 100LX and could be replaced if it ever
went bad....

Is this a "pipe dream"?

--tim

CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-7608

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Subject:      LX <--> Win95/98 transfer....

Howdy again all....

Looking for something I had once: Shareware that you could load in Win95
and I *hope* Win98 that would let you link to and back up your LX while it
happily set in server mode.

Downloaded Zip from SUPER, last night and it got stuck. Don't know if it was
a prob. in Win98, the file contents (I hate when a part of a file "looks"
like a command and gums up a transfer) or "operator headspace". I don't
think it was the latter, because I had success w/ the Root and several other
directories from my palmtop going to a set-aside directory (HPBACK1 or the
like) on my laptop's C: drive...

Was the program called "TransFile 200" or something like that and where is
it?

<<only did searches on SUPER for Win95, Windows and Transfer ... saw lots of
cool stuff to tinker w/ (that's how I found Zip) but not what I was after>>.

What's the "best" (and fastest) solution(s)?

TIA,

--tim

PS. My goal is to do a fast back-up of my palmtop's C: drive etc. it's
bigger than my CF card, even if I temporarily move all the files off of the
card... Not sure I want to use xcopy and I don't have a parallel port
adapter for my HP yet.

CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-7608

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:47:40 -0700
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On the other hand, I for one, would rather just see a summarization (if there is
one).

I can't handle anymore email traffic as it is...let alone an endless stream of
three pagers followed by the ubiquitous "Me too".

Maybe this is a good time to solicit a plug for POST/LX.   Can it be configured
to delete messages at the server end based on a filter criteria (for the subject
line)?

My guess is that filtering is done after the mail is downloaded (and hence the
phone bill damage is done).

- Longden





David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> on 04/21/99 11:32:16 AM

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Subject:  Re: Survey




I understand that you want replies to a particular mailbox, but I, for
one, would just as soon read others' replies here as well, and I
would be happy to post a copy of mine here if others agree...

John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> This is a short survey to judge the marketability of a replacement motherboard
> for the Hewlett Packard 200LX Palmtop computer. Thank you for your
> responses.
>
>
<snip>

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On 04-21 01:32pm CDT, the following was written:

> I understand that you want replies to a particular mailbox, but I, for
> one, would just as soon read others' replies here as well, and I
> would be happy to post a copy of mine here if others agree...

Ditto.

73 Jeff

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:56:36 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Backlit 200LX

re:
>But you have to take into consideration just how long it takes to recharge
>batteries in the 200LX. Even if you just use it an hour or two a day
>you are doubling the drain on the batteries, so now instead of charging
>6 hours you are charging ten hours. This means its no longer an overnight
>charge while you sleep.

I've got a few Radio Shack Chargers now and don't often rely on the LX to do
the charging {I even own ABC/LX but can't currently find it, cause I used it
so infrequently). I imagine I'm not alone among the ranks of those who'd
rotate a few sets of AA's through a charger and even keep a second set with
me.

How many on this list own ONLY two rechargeable AAs?  OK, be honest now ;-)

I'll admit to tossing quite a few of the "Renewals" and replacing them with
more I don't seem to get 100 charges before they leak--Thank God, you're
not supposed to charge them in a normal charger or an LX!. I also have
quite a few "experimental" btty's around, since I wanted to see for myself
which lasted longer etc. my results were inconclusive due to lack of
testing standardization, proper "scientific" data logging and comparison
<sigh> such is the burden of being busy ;-)  .

--tim

CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-7608

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Subject:      Re: LX <--> Win95/98 transfer....
Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Transfile 200 is available from the HP website:

     http://www.hp.com/cposupport/handheld_computers/software/tf103.exe.html

It works on Win95 and NT 4.0 and sounds like what you're after, tho it may not
be the fastest solution since it's limited to a speed of 57K (tho sometimes
works even slower than that).

- Longden





"Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL> on 04/21/99 11:39:04
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Subject:  LX <--> Win95/98 transfer....




Howdy again all....

Looking for something I had once: Shareware that you could load in Win95
and I *hope* Win98 that would let you link to and back up your LX while it
happily set in server mode.

Downloaded Zip from SUPER, last night and it got stuck. Don't know if it was
a prob. in Win98, the file contents (I hate when a part of a file "looks"
like a command and gums up a transfer) or "operator headspace". I don't
think it was the latter, because I had success w/ the Root and several other
directories from my palmtop going to a set-aside directory (HPBACK1 or the
like) on my laptop's C: drive...

Was the program called "TransFile 200" or something like that and where is
it?

<<only did searches on SUPER for Win95, Windows and Transfer ... saw lots of
cool stuff to tinker w/ (that's how I found Zip) but not what I was after>>.

What's the "best" (and fastest) solution(s)?

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Subject:      Re: Survey

Missed the original post (with the survey, or the URL for it) .... anyone
care to resend it to me, off-list?

I'd love to help influence someone to build a Pentium LX ;-)

--tim

CPT Tim Raymond
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> Maybe this is a good time to solicit a plug for POST/LX.   Can it be configured
> to delete messages at the server end based on a filter criteria (for the subject
> line)?

You mean like Goin' Postal does? (sorry, couldn't pass up a GP plug) <grin>

> My guess is that filtering is done after the mail is downloaded (and hence the
> phone bill damage is done).

GP's filtering is done prior to downloading the mail.

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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: 100LX Memory improvement?

> Howdy all,
>
> I vaguely remember someone on the list saying the Hornet chip and guts to
> the 100LX could support *2* PCMCIA cards (it was just a physical restriction
> that kept you from plugging in....
>
> Here's a question to all you guys who regularly take the 100LX apart and
> solder things into it ;-)
>
> Would there be any way to rig a Compact Flash (CF) card into the insides of
> a 100LX?
>
> I primarily use my 200LX and go the 100 for "multitasking" I may be
> downloading HUGE emails and want to type a memo, whilst flat on the couch
> (OK, I'm lazy sometimes ;-)   ) but would love to have my "poor" 1 MEG unit
> to have the ability to mirror my vastly Thaddeus-improved 200LX.
>
> Just a thought that came to me over lunch as I stared at my CF card and its
> PC card adapter.....
>
> Figured it would be nice to DoubleSpeed my 100LX *AND* give it a CF memory
> "injection" at the same time, 'cause it seems pretty hard to use it
> sometimes w/ less than 256K memory left over, AFTER moving my Phone Book and
> Appts to the CF card I do have in a PC-card adapter....
>
> Just thought I'd mention it'd be something I'd be willing to pay for, even
> if the CF card were hard-wired or otherwise unrecoverable as long as it
> worked to its full ability in the 100LX and could be replaced if it ever
> went bad....
>
> Is this a "pipe dream"?
>
> --tim
>

I seem to remember the same thing, that the hornet chip can support
two pcmcia slots. A CF slot is just a subset of a pcmcia slot and is
covered by part of the same specification if I am not mistaken. There
are probably only a few lines that are not common to both slots so it
should be just a case of wiring the CF in parallel with the present
slot, with the exception of the few different lines. Someone with the
hornet chip spec and pinout should be able to identify the needed
pins. Of course this is a 2-3 hour wiring job on VERY small contacts,
very close together. I do know of a person that rewired the CF slot
in a pc110 to the top pcmcia slot so that CF modem and NIC cards
would work. The CF slot in the pc110 is a little pre-standard so it
doesn't work with anything but memory type cards.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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Tidewater Community College
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Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Can we influence HP?

> IMO, the vision died (at HP) a long time ago.
>
> We're living on the borrowed time purchased by a good design and a talented
> following.
>
> If we ever get a new dream machine, I doubt that HP has the vision or gumption
> to be the one responsible.
>
> - Longden

The borrowed time probably has more to do with the fact that the line
that produces the 200lx can't easily be converted to something else
or it probably would have already been done. Everyone had better hope
that no HP CE machine ever catches on big or they might just convert
the production line to making them.

Pete

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Subject:      Re: Backlit 200LX

> But you have to take into consideration just how long it takes to recharge
> batteries in the 200LX. Even if you just use it an hour or two a day
> you are doubling the drain on the batteries, so now instead of charging
> 6 hours you are charging ten hours. This means its no longer an overnight
> charge while you sleep. And if you have no access to power over the
> day there's no way to recoup the loss.
>
> John

If the backlight is valuable to you then you invest in a couple of
sets of batteries and an external charger. Then the time to charge
the batteries is reduced to the time it takes to replace them. That
would also allow for another charger at work with another set of
batteries so that the only issue would be that you have to be near a
set when they get low. This is basically the same issue that other
computer users face but the HP200lx has the marked advantage that the
batteries and external charger are off the shelf items and quite
reasonably priced. In comparison, I was recently quite happy to find
spare batteries for my pc110 at $35 each, compared to the normal $50-
$70 and these are camcorder batteries so they are at least somewhat
common. I wish more laptops computers would use standard camcorder
batteries. I may just buy a Ricoh Magio since it uses two of the same
batteries as my pc110.

Pete

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> > * Option to show message size (including attachment) in message list.
>
> How will you use it?
...
>   Avi M. D&A
>

Sometimes I get some BIG files attached to my mail.
If I could see the size of the msg then I could determine that the
msg have an attachment.
Or maybe also some sort of attachment indication  could be added
that tells me it have a attachment.
When You highlight a message a Repl or Del etc is
displayed. Couldnt the attachment and size status also be shown here.

Well, the best would be a kilobytes indication and attachment indication
on the corresponding message in Your POST/lx message list.
By a glance I could se that a attachment is present.

      /tomas moberg
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How many people read the list including digest readers?
Does the administrator know?

      /tomas moberg
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> Tomas Moberg wrote:
> >
> > * Option to show message size (including attachment) in message list.
>
> Would you go for a  v e r y  s l o w  message list to get that? POST/LX

NO!

> Would it really be useful? What for? I have been tended to implement it
> but then I found no real other reason apart from "others have it too".
> Any suggestions?

Others have it!  ;->
Actualy I have seen it in CC:mail and Lotus Notes and I have found it
usefull and timesaving to be able to tell wich msg that contains a
attachment.
But its absolutely not a must. Look in to it when You have too much
time to kill. :->

> > * Ability to sort in size order. From time to time I clean up my
> > messages to save disk space. If they were size ordered then I could
> > just judge the first ones for removal.
>
> So you remove the big messages and not the unimportant ones?

I remove the big unimportent messages first. I rather delete one 10k
message then 10 1K messages

> Andreas


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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:13:39 -0400
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Maybe not useful to many, but interesting:

http://www.quantrad.com/qs05000.htm

--
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On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> Is there a way to speed it up? I thought CE was supposed to address
> the hardware directly which should speed it up. Is there a setting for
> that can be changed?

The way to speed it up, as far as I can see, is to buy a new machine with
a faster CPU.  <g>

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:08:22 -0500
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Subject:      PNRTI/PNR & Comm Port Also news.hplx.net
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It seems that when I run PNRTI and the PNR and then exit PNR that my serial
port is mysteriously turned on :( I don't have the serial port option
checked under set up. Has anybody noticed this? Am I just being anal
retentive about my serial port being on <g>? Battery life is so precious on
these things that I hate to waste a microvolt.

Also, several people have replied to me about how to use PNR and LXNNTP to
access both news.hplx.net and my ISP's newserver. Receiving posts from
news.hplx.net is not a problem, but the posting is :( When you write a post
in PNR, iI is saved in an outgoing file that LXNNTP looks for the next time
that it is run and then this file is sent off into usenet land. Because
news.hplx.net is a 'closed' server, it would require an additional outgoing
file to be sent directly to news.hplx.net and not to my isp's news server. I
hope this makes sense. Am I basically going to have to run 2 duplicate
setups of PNR & LXNNTP to accomplish the sending of mail to news.hplx.net?

73 Jeff W4JEF
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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:56:10 -0500
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On 04-21 01:47pm CDT, the following was written:

> Maybe this is a good time to solicit a plug for POST/LX.   Can it be configured
> to delete messages at the server end based on a filter criteria (for the subject
> line)?

Goin' Postal _can_ handle that at the server level. Okay, I threw a plug in
for Steve also <g>.

73 Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
    *------------------------------------------------------------------*

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:23:12 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi list,

thank you for all your suggestions to solve this problem.

> > Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must
> > unzip a html before loading it (if the html is
> > called by a link _or_ by input of a file name)?

But unfortunately I forgot to mention that also HTMLs
opened by a link in the "upper" HTML should be
unzipped and opened

Still suggestions? ;-)

TNX
daniel


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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:23:15 GMT
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Subject:      Re: Infrared Port
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Hi Stephan,

> Shouldn't it be possible to communicate with standard IrdA ports? I have an IBM ThinkPad 760ED with 2 IrdA ports, one in front and one on the back. Why is there no driver to communicate with the LX? The ThinkPad supports IrdA and ASK (Sharp).

My girlfriend has got a Highscreen "Advance II" notebook
(CPU Tillamook 233MHz).
Its Infrared port can be set to IrDA and ASKIR, just like yours,
and if I set it to IrDA, it can communicate with my 200LX using
Transfile Win200 on the notebook and filer on the LX.

I don't use any drivers, neither IrDA-drivers on the palmtop
nor HPSIR-drivers on the notebook.


GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:23:19 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi again,

> While some of us are discussing their dreams about the LX, I work hard to get more out of it. I currently use only half of the power the LX has. If I could use the infrared port, it would be more. I only can communicate with another LX or with a Jetey
e
> , if I had one :-(

Regarding the jeteye: I've made such a device on my own:
It's a little case (maybe of the size of a type III PCMCIA-card)
with a IR transmitter and a few resistors and capacitors in it.
It's connected to a 5-pin-connector on my SOYO-motherboard.
This connector is called 'IR' in the manual of the board.
In the BIOS I can set this IR-port to the UART of COM2, so
I can use COM2 with the IR device.
Also I can toggle in the BIOS between IrDA, ASKIR _AND_ HPSIR.
Here only HPSIR seems to work.

If you also have such a 5-pin-connector on your board,
I could send you the circuit board layout of my IR-device.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:29:06 -0400
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              Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
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From:         Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
Subject:      HTML editor/viewer for LX
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anyone know of a plain jane HTML editor/Viewer for DOS-LX palmtops doesnt
need GFX support or color just a editor/viewer that can read HTML code
with a cut and paste feature (something like qedit would rock!) anyone??

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:50:00 -0400
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              "Rich C. Johnson" <Rich.Johnson@EY.COM>
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Subject:      Re: LX <--> Win95/98 transfer....
Comments: To: RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL

Why don't you use LLRA? When properly configured it works well enough under Win95 for quick file transfers. Since you invoke it from DOS you can use batch files to automate repetitive tasks.
Rich

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:05:41 +0200
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              Jacques Belin <listes2@ALTERN.ORG>
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Le Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:37:02 GMT
Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> =e9crivait:

> Don't agree:
> It's also a hidden file in d:\bin on my German 4MB 200LX!

If I remember, it was already in the French 100LX. (probability: 90%, I
don't remember that I tested an US version during that period)

BTW : When I discovered it, I disassembled it to understand what was
this undocumented program, and failed (don't understood that the
requested file was the Macro file :-( )

Fortunately, the author, HP's Raan Young, published the infos in a club
paper (of the Dutch club, or HPCC's Datafile, don't remember).
shortly after. Info published one or two months later in the PTP.

Jacques.
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"You have new mail" appeared on the screen...
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:04:04 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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Well, GP development just ground to a halt today.  It's my aniversary and
my wife bought me a Furby.  Who could know that a reasonably technical
mind could be facinated by a silly little bag of plastic gears going
'do be do be dooooo'... :-)

Of course, after reading that a pair of them will communicate via infared
I started eyeing the side of my LX with renewed interest... <grin>

Don't worry, I'll keep working on GP.... But don't be surprised if you
download email with GPv4 and the Furby your daughter got last xmas
suddenly goes "ohhhh, email..., me read..." :-)

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:20:54 -0400
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>> I agree, but I would rather type on a fuller sized keyboard, and as
you
>> say have a larger screen.
>
>Ideally, for desktop use, one should be able to connect both a larger
>screen and a larger keyboard. A real docking station would be really
nice
>to have. But for travel its the ideal size. It goes right in the pocket
along
>with the toothbrush and you are ready to go.

  Why not just make the HP200LX a fully functional serially connected
node on your network, use a Station 100 base shell as docking station,
and then simply use "rcon" from your desktop computer? ;-)

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:30:33 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Subject:      Re: LX <--> Win95/98 transfer....
Comments: To: "Rich C. Johnson" <Rich.Johnson@ey.com>

re:
>Why don't you use LLRA?

Is it expensive? Or is this a dumb Q. (maybe it's abandoned/free-ware out
there)?  Maybe because I have an old 100LX and the 200LX, I "own" two copies
of the program and can copy it to my PC, as long as I don't use it on 3
computers at the same time?

I've purchased (in the past) several file transfer programs .... didn't want
to buy yet another, just because it was the built-in for the LX....

Are there any 3d party (commercial) programs that will synch w/ LLRA? I'm
thinking of PC Anywhere, etc. or do they hold to their exclusive formats.

I'm going to dig thru tape back-ups of an OLD computer that's long gone to
find my copies of my other software..... I remember it not working well w/
the LX cable, it came w/ a proprietary null modem cable of its own design
yet the manual SAID it would work w/ even homemade null modem
configurations .... just not as well....

After looking at the last paragraph ... it may take me longer than a few
days!

MAYBE I should buy a trans-digital parallel port adapter and use a Zip drive
1) do they work OK on a double-speed palmtop and 2) does anybody know if
it'll work w/ the Zip+ (plus) drive? <smaller power adapter to carry>.  Any
cheap sources for the adapter?

--tim

CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-7608

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:30:07 -0700
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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> > Maybe this is a good time to solicit a plug for POST/LX.   Can it be configured
> > to delete messages at the server end based on a filter criteria (for the subject
> > line)?
>
> You mean like Goin' Postal does? (sorry, couldn't pass up a GP plug) <grin>

You mean like Post/LX does? (sorry, couldn't pass up a GP plug) <grin>

> > My guess is that filtering is done after the mail is downloaded (and hence the
> > phone bill damage is done).
>
> GP's filtering is done prior to downloading the mail.

Really, GP sits connected online reading EACH EMAIL to determine if to d/l it?
Where is the phonebill damage relief? Well, in truth you did not state that GP
provides any relief. Post/LX let's you d/l headers only, and filter based on
subject or other content of headers that something belongs in a kill folder.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:50:30 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Subject:      Fw: Differences between dosminix and 'regular' minix?

This showed up re Minix about resizing the disk...


-----Original Message-----
From: Kees J Bot <kjb=731744@cs.vu.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Date: 21. april 1999 09:40
Subject: Re: Differences between dosminix and 'regular' minix?


>In article <371BA1E9.7181C3E6@NOSPAM.ucla.edu>,
>Dimi Shahbaz  <dshahbaz@NOSPAM.ucla.edu> wrote:
>>
>>...
>>requires the use of the "regular" minix), so it would be helpful to know
>>what differences in terms of implementation, processes, threads, use,
>>etc. there exists between the two version.  Are the kernels identical?
>
>There is absolutely no difference at all between all the Minix variants.
>The 16 and 32 bit variants use the same source, and the partition/
>dosminix variants of the same "bitness" use exactly the same binaries
>and kernel.  They only differ on what disk driver is used while running.
>
>>If I make a kernel modification, can I expect it to behave identically
>>with the same mod on "regular" minix?
>
>Yes.
>
>>Secondly, is there a way to resize the dosminix filesystem(s),
>>particularly the / partition?
>
>How to resize the /usr partition is described in the dosminix(8) manual
>page.  Resizing / is a not so easy.  You have to make a blank new "disk"
>with mkfile under DOS.  Under Minix you partition it, create two file
>systems for / and /usr, mount them on /mnt and /mnt/usr, and copy the
>entire system with 'cpdir -v / /mnt'.
>
>(You may want to reconsider resizing /.  The root file system is seen as
>expendable.  It is quite active, because pipes are created on it.  It's
>small so that it can be exchanged for a floppy if need be.  Dosminix
>is a different in this respect, of course.  Making backups of that
>system against weird Minix crashes is a trivial DOS copy command.)
>--
>Kees J. Bot, Systems Programmer, Sciences dept., Vrije Universiteit
Amsterdam
>Minix:       http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/   ftp://ftp.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/
>Minix-vmd:   http://www.Minix-vmd.org/        ftp://ftp.Minix-vmd.org/

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:30:04 -0700
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Longden,

> On the other hand, I for one, would rather just see a summarization (if there is
> one).
>
> I can't handle anymore email traffic as it is...let alone an endless stream of
> three pagers followed by the ubiquitous "Me too".
>
> Maybe this is a good time to solicit a plug for POST/LX.   Can it be configured
> to delete messages at the server end based on a filter criteria (for the subject
> line)?
>
> My guess is that filtering is done after the mail is downloaded (and hence the
> phone bill damage is done).

Yes, But you can download headers only, and filter them into a JUNK folder,
then go to JUNK folder and CTRL-D ALL the messages there, i.e. tell Post/LX to
delete these suckers ON THE SERVERS. That will be it! You'll be downloading
only enough to determine the content is worthy of deletion, and then then next
pass will wipe these from the server.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:04:00 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Subject:      Re: 100LX Memory improvement?
Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>

I have a 700LX that has 2 pcmcia ports. One holds the DTP-2 datacard for
mobile phones. I removed it and tried with both a CF card and a SRAM card.
No dice, nothing showed up in filer or dos. Needs a driver? Mack?


Have a nice day!

Franklin

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From: Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 21. april 1999 20:39
Subject: 100LX Memory improvement?


>Howdy all,
>
>I vaguely remember someone on the list saying the Hornet chip and guts to
>the 100LX could support *2* PCMCIA cards (it was just a physical
restriction
>that kept you from plugging in....
>
>Here's a question to all you guys who regularly take the 100LX apart and
>solder things into it ;-)
>
>Would there be any way to rig a Compact Flash (CF) card into the insides of
>a 100LX?
>
>I primarily use my 200LX and go the 100 for "multitasking" I may be
>downloading HUGE emails and want to type a memo, whilst flat on the couch
>(OK, I'm lazy sometimes ;-)   ) but would love to have my "poor" 1 MEG
unit
>to have the ability to mirror my vastly Thaddeus-improved 200LX.
>
>Just a thought that came to me over lunch as I stared at my CF card and its
>PC card adapter.....
>
>Figured it would be nice to DoubleSpeed my 100LX *AND* give it a CF memory
>"injection" at the same time, 'cause it seems pretty hard to use it
>sometimes w/ less than 256K memory left over, AFTER moving my Phone Book
and
>Appts to the CF card I do have in a PC-card adapter....
>
>Just thought I'd mention it'd be something I'd be willing to pay for, even
>if the CF card were hard-wired or otherwise unrecoverable as long as it
>worked to its full ability in the 100LX and could be replaced if it ever
>went bad....
>
>Is this a "pipe dream"?
>
>--tim
>
>CPT Tim Raymond
>III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
>W: 254-287-7608
>
>---------------------------------
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>email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil
>71250.1550@compuserve.com
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP

>   Why not just make the HP200LX a fully functional serially connected
> node on your network, use a Station 100 base shell as docking station,
> and then simply use "rcon" from your desktop computer? ;-)
>
>   Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan

Or simpler yet, just use the desktop computer.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:49:26 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question
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On 04-21 05:30pm CDT, the following was written:

> Really, GP sits connected online reading EACH EMAIL to determine if to d/l it?
> Where is the phonebill damage relief? Well, in truth you did not state that GP
> provides any relief. Post/LX let's you d/l headers only, and filter based on
> subject or other content of headers that something belongs in a kill folder.

Actually, it looks at the headers and it happens very quickly!

73 Jeff W4JEF

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
    *------------------------------------------------------------------*

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:54:59 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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From:         Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question
In-Reply-To:  <199904212230.PAA17952@ftel.net> from A Meshar at "Apr 21,
              99 03:30:07 pm"
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> > GP's filtering is done prior to downloading the mail.
>
> Really, GP sits connected online reading EACH EMAIL to determine if to d/l it?
> Where is the phonebill damage relief? Well, in truth you did not state that GP
> provides any relief. Post/LX let's you d/l headers only, and filter based on
> subject or other content of headers that something belongs in a kill folder.

Nope, GP filters based on the message header and doesn't download the
entire message unless it's supposed to.  GP also supports a 'headers-only'
mode where it'll index the messages and you can pick and choose which to
download, which to skip over, and which to delete on your next connection.

Filters work in either headers-only or normal mode.  In headers-only, you
can use the filters to instantly download or delete certain messages,
while the remainder are just indexed for retrieval later if you choose.
In normal mode, you can use filters to skip over or delete certain
messages, while the remainder are downloaded.

In reality, I don't think Avi and myself are competing that much - we
both have good products with slightly different markets.  If you need
newsgroups and web browsing, GP would not make sense for you and WWW/LX
would be an excellent choice.  If you only need email and want to conserve
your disk space, WWW/LX would be an overkill for you.  In the real world,
I know for a fact that GP has gotten LX's out of desk drawers - I like to
think that those people will be so impressed with their "gee, I didn't
realize it was still so useful!" LX that they will end up buying a new
unit from Thaddeus and eventually get WWW/LX for it too.  A win for the
entire community..

Of course, we do like to get that little plug in there for our own product
from time to time... :-)

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:01:19 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Fluff: A new toy
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On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Steven Lawson wrote:

> Well, GP development just ground to a halt today.  It's my aniversary
> and my wife bought me a Furby.  Who could know that a reasonably
> technical mind could be facinated by a silly little bag of plastic
> gears going 'do be do be dooooo'... :-)

Oh, for crying out loud... all of the service dispatchers at work got
those around Christmas time, and I almost went mad. Please tell me you
didn't pay more than $1000 for it.  <g>

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:38:27 +0930
Reply-To:     rwhitby@hplx.net
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: LXNNTP & news.hplx.net
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>

Jeff Johns writes:
> Is anyone writing posts to news.hplx.net using PNR and LXNNTP?

Well, ... yes :-)

> If so, how are you going about doing it? With Rod Whitby's help, I am able to access my
> local news server and the access news.hplx.net to download news for reading,
> but I can't seem to figure out how to be able to post to news.hplx.net and
> also to my ISP's local news server. Anyone want to offer some guidance?

LXNNTP just tries to post all outstanding replies to each server you
connect to.  I connect to news.hplx.net, and it accepts any hp200.*
posts, and rejects any others (which get eventually posted when I
connect to the other server).

A bit inelegant, but it works for me :-)

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:13:53 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Interesting 200LX Use
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On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) wrote:

> Maybe not useful to many, but interesting:
> http://www.quantrad.com/qs05000.htm

I'd like to add the obligatory "Let's see somebody run a nuclear
spectroscopy system on a Windows CE machine" now.  <g>

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:12:10 +1000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi all

I would like the MB replaced with something faster yet we seem to be in a
position between a rock and a hard place regarding screens if I remember
Hals post from a while ago correctly.

Seems HP wont supply screens to unauthorised companies.

Backlighting has been a favourite topic for ages..

My point is that the most fragile part of the LX and probably the first that
will NEED to be upgraded is the screen if/when HPLX production ceases.

For the techo's amongst us.. Is it possible to create a Motherboard that has
both CGA and VGA capabilities so new screens can come later when needed?

My 0.02c

Russell

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:24:52 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Russell Hemery wrote:

> My point is that the most fragile part of the LX and probably the
> first that will NEED to be upgraded is the screen if/when HPLX
> production ceases.

Actually, I think the keyboard is more fragile than the screen.  The
screen doesn't tend to break under normal use...

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:21:59 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: HTML editor/viewer for LX
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.3.96.990421172656.19567A-100000@unix01> from "Sputnik"
              at Apr 21, 99 05:29:06 pm
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> anyone know of a plain jane HTML editor/Viewer for DOS-LX palmtops doesnt
> need GFX support or color just a editor/viewer that can read HTML code
> with a cut and paste feature (something like qedit would rock!) anyone??

Well, uh. Qedit works great.  Personally, I use one of the three vi
clones for all my HTML editing, but have on occassion used Qedit.
YMMV.

-Chris

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:26:56 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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Subject:      Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question
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Yes.

I have 2 LXs, a 1Mb and a 2Mb...and I have a couple of 512Kb SRAM cards.   I
quite like the idea of WWW/LX, but I'll wait to get an upgrade to 32/63 from
Rundel before I try the look/see.

Meantime I have GP on the 2Mb system (the 1Mb does not really have space for
the mail I get!), and I use a 33.6 modem, it gets mail faster than Outlook
client does on my P133 laptop (OK, it cannot read the attachments on many).
So I can at least see if there is "trouble at t'mill" and read much of it
(or bin it without downloading).  With the LX's instant on, it is a much
better bet for a quick look-see in an airport lounge than my laptop (and I
have a Toshiba Tecra 720, a Tecra 550 a Libretto 50CT....).  In fact in
Europe it would be smaller than the bag of phone adapters...

So I'd say that this kind of software is *exactly* what is right for the LX
- don't compete with the corporate arena, this is a niche market, the niche
is IMHO determined by size, battery life, and above all the availability of
software.

I'm glad that both Avi and Steve have products in this market, they both
have features we'd all expect.  But let's not have a shooting match.  We
(the customer) will decide which is right for our work habits, $$$ and
configuration.  All you (the authors) need to do is write software, and if
*no-one* buys/appreciates it worry.  Please don't worry if *some* of us
choose someone else's software.  We may just be different.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:28:18 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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Subject:      Re: 4 MB Memory module-again
Comments: To: Eben Rubin <erubin@POL.NET>
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> I have an "extra" new/unused 4MB plug-in memory module. It'll make a 6MB
> unit out of a 2MB 200LX, or 5 MB from a 1MB unit. It'll work fine with a
> 2X speed upgrade, and requires no software.
>
> I've lowered the price to $50. Let me know.
> Otherwise, it stays in stock till I get a second 200LX for myself.
> Eben

Can it be used with a 4MB 200LX?
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:30:47 -0400
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              aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU>
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hi david
quick queston. how do i fix a loose enter key?
thanks
tony

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:34:43 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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Subject:      Re: Fluff: A new toy
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Hmm, now what would the shrinks say to your wife buyng a Furby ?

I've been sitting here so long it's now my 40th birthday (by 30 minutes).
Dear Doctor, if I get a Furby from my wife as a present do I :

(a)     Write an interface for it for the LX

(b)     Switch off the PC and talk to the wife

(c)     Switch off the PC and talk to the Furby

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:45:52 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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From:         Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question
In-Reply-To:  <950F2CFCC55AD211A4750000F845B143019C7C86@ukz249.ggr.co.uk> from
              "Brown, William" at "Apr 22, 99 00:26:56 am"
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> With the LX's instant on, it is a much better bet for a quick look-see
> in an airport lounge than my laptop (and I have a Toshiba Tecra 720, a
> Tecra 550 a Libretto 50CT....).

I can personally vouch for this, having taken a number of trips where I
left my laptop at home.  I can pop into one of these airport 'business
cubicles', download my mail, and be ready to catch my next flight before
most of the other people have gotten their laptops plugged in and booted.

And there's nothing better for airports which have stand-up payphones with
data jacks.  I can't even imagine trying to balance a laptop on one of
these things without dropping it on the ground.

I've even been in Schipol (ps?) airport in Amsterdam with a Konnexx
acoustic coupler tied to the handset and the LX in my hand (getting some
rather suspicious looks from security and the other passengers)

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:07:55 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Thanks for the plug....er, I mean feedback Steve.

The gauntlet's been thrown (a friendly one, of course).

- Longden





Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM> on 04/21/99 12:01:26 PM

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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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Subject:  Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question




> Maybe this is a good time to solicit a plug for POST/LX.   Can it be
configured
> to delete messages at the server end based on a filter criteria (for the
subject
> line)?

You mean like Goin' Postal does? (sorry, couldn't pass up a GP plug) <grin>

> My guess is that filtering is done after the mail is downloaded (and hence the
> phone bill damage is done).

GP's filtering is done prior to downloading the mail.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:17:49 +0100
Reply-To:     abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt
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From:         Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT>
Subject:      Task Bar
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Hi guys

At the top of the recent X-Findermania (and a justified one, a great
program, a serious candidate to the LX-Oscar for the best palmtop
program when we in the list join together - cyber way - in the
AFLXA - Academy for Fine LX-Arts <G>) someone asked what was
Task Bar and were to find it. Well I found it in my most recent
fishing trip on the unknown seas of japanese LX sites.

It seems to me to be another menu program but a very fine one -
look and feel of the M$ Windows 95/98 - which deserves our
outmost attention in order to discover what it realy does
(documents in japanese of course). In my excitement I forgott to
take note of the URL (sorry) but the name of the author is CARGO.
Maybe Toshiki Sasabe will find him. I'm sending a copy to Mitch in
separate mail.

Regards

Antonio
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:27:26 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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From:         Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: 4 MB Memory module-again
Comments: To: Eben Rubin <erubin@POL.NET>
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Hi, I'm interested.  How much would it cost to ship it to..

Lynnwood, WA 98037

Thanks!

Brian S
kaervek@ix.netcom.com


At 10:51 PM 4/20/99 -0400, you wrote:
>I have an "extra" new/unused 4MB plug-in memory module. It'll make a 6MB
>unit out of a 2MB 200LX, or 5 MB from a 1MB unit. It'll work fine with a
>2X speed upgrade, and requires no software.
>
>I've lowered the price to $50. Let me know.
>
>Otherwise, it stays in stock till I get a second 200LX for myself.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:31:42 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Steve D." <sdowell@NETZERO.NET>
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From:         "Steve D." <sdowell@NETZERO.NET>
Subject:      Re: Loose Enter Key
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I fixed mine a couple of weeks ago. I peeled off the keyboard mask and
underneath it was pretty obvious what was broken. The keys are held in place
by two very fragile looking pieces of plastic. One of those pieces was
broken. I used glue from my wifes hot-glue gun and repaired the little
piece. It worked just fine.
I imagine there are other substances that would work better than hot-glue.
But the bottom line is that you'll have to glue plastic to plastic.

Steve

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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 6:30 PM
Subject: Loose Enter Key


> hi david
> quick queston. how do i fix a loose enter key?
> thanks
> tony
>
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:36:21 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Loose Enter Key
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On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Steve D. wrote:

> I fixed mine a couple of weeks ago. I peeled off the keyboard mask and
> underneath it was pretty obvious what was broken. The keys are held in
> place by two very fragile looking pieces of plastic. One of those
> pieces was broken. I used glue from my wifes hot-glue gun and repaired
> the little piece. It worked just fine. I imagine there are other
> substances that would work better than hot-glue. But the bottom line
> is that you'll have to glue plastic to plastic.

That pretty much sums it up.  Superglue (cyanoacrylate) works as well...
but what we really need is a steel-reinforced keyboard upgrade.  Mack?
<g>

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:30:08 -0400
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thanks

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:14:43 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Roger Shea <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM>
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From:         Roger Shea <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lotus Notes -> HP (via ISP)
Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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Here are the procedures for auto forward notes mail to other E-mail account:

- @ your mailbox
- Create-Agent
- Agent Name, i.e. "Auto Forward Mail"
- @ "When should this agent run?" Select "If New Mail has arrived"
- Select "Simple"
- Select "Add Action"
- Select "Send Mail Message"
- fill-up "To", "Subject" & "Body"
- Select "Include copy of document"
- Select "OK"
- Save the Agent
Above is the instruction given to me by our Notes admin. It works.

Roger

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:21:38 +0800
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              Roger Shea <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM>
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I use it in win98 everyday, works perfectly.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:16:09 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Longden Loo wrote:

> Thanks for the plug....er, I mean feedback Steve.
> The gauntlet's been thrown (a friendly one, of course).

As far as I can tell, not only has the gauntlet been thrown, but the duel
has already been fought.  Or maybe it's still going on.  <g>

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:44:07 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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From:         "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Re: Task Bar
In-Reply-To:  <199904220019.BAA03597@tpone.telepac.pt>; from Antonio Queiroz
              Menezes on Thu, Apr 22, 1999 at 01:17:49AM +0100
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> (documents in japanese of course). In my excitement I forgott to
> take note of the URL (sorry) but the name of the author is CARGO.
> Maybe Toshiki Sasabe will find him. I'm sending a copy to Mitch in
> separate mail.

It is a nice looking program, but can't be put on the SUPER Site until the docs
are translated to English and the author agrees. We learned this long ago with
Japanese authors. They make some very fine palmtop programs and we want to
continue to have permission to distribute them.

That doesn't keep you from experimenting of course:

http://member.nifty.ne.jp/cargo/hp200lx.htm
--
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:37:54 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Subject:      Re: HTML editor/viewer for LX
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On 04-21 06:21pm CDT, the following was written:

> Well, uh. Qedit works great.  Personally, I use one of the three vi
> clones for all my HTML editing, but have on occassion used Qedit.
> YMMV.

While we are speaking of vi editors, can anyone give me a brief tutorial of
it. I generally use pico, but I'm having to learn vi to work with the little
Minix set up on the LX..... unless I could install pico?!?

73 Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:04:53 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Subject:      Wow!
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As a user of both WWW/LX and Goin' Postal, I can honestly say that Steve has
implemented a seriously cool feature in Goin' Postal. It's the ability to
receive a mailing list digest and exploding it on the palmtop so you can
reply to each individual message. I just got to use this feature for the
first time on a extremely high volume mailing list to which I subscribe (No,
David it's not a porno list <g> ) and I am extremely impressed with this
feature!

73 Jeff
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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:00:01 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 04-21 07:36pm CDT, the following was written:

> That pretty much sums it up.  Superglue (cyanoacrylate) works as well...
> but what we really need is a steel-reinforced keyboard upgrade.  Mack?
> <g>

Actually would Kevlar(tm) or Spectra(tm) fibers be a better choice than
steel? They're lightweight, flexible and bullet resistant <g>!

73 Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:15:03 +0800
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              Roger Shea <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM>
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From:         Roger Shea <rogerswn@CTIMAIL.COM>
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Please send me a copy too.
Thanks.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:35:33 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Organization: HP200LX User
Subject:      Re: LXNNTP & news.hplx.net
Comments: To: rwhitby@hplx.net
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On 04-21 03:08am CDT, the following was written:

> LXNNTP just tries to post all outstanding replies to each server you
> connect to.  I connect to news.hplx.net, and it accepts any hp200.*
> posts, and rejects any others (which get eventually posted when I
> connect to the other server).

Okay! The lighbulb just came on above my head <g>. I should change my setup
to connect to news.hplx.net first then the othe ISP! So simple, but yet I
was baffled :) At least I know something about law enforcement <g>. Thanks
for making me wake up and smell the coffee Rod. I'll post how it goes to the
list.

73 es tnx Jeff W4JEF

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:22:33 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Loose Enter Key
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MIME-Version: 1.0
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On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Actually would Kevlar(tm) or Spectra(tm) fibers be a better choice
> than steel? They're lightweight, flexible and bullet resistant <g>!

Hey, you're the one next door to Mack... let him use a piece of your
bullet-proof vest to make a new keyboard.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:29:13 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 04-21 09:22pm CDT, the following was written:

> Hey, you're the one next door to Mack... let him use a piece of your
> bullet-proof vest to make a new keyboard.

Well, I do have a couple of vests whose date code has passed thus rendering
them unsuitable for police work <g>.

73 Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:41:08 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Loose Enter Key
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MIME-Version: 1.0
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On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Well, I do have a couple of vests whose date code has passed thus
> rendering them unsuitable for police work <g>.

Hmm... it just might work...

Seriously though... does anybody on the list have any idea about how to go
about making a replacement keyboard for the 200LX?  Presumably even just
replacing the plastic key assemblies (the regular one and the numpad are
separate) would be good for those who do lots of typing.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:42:35 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Bob Newins <b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: FS: Zoom Pocket Modem
Comments: To: Bill Sprague <eugarps@IBM.NET>
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> I've got a Zoom 14.4 kbps Pocket Modem for sale.  It comes with a =
serial
> cable and a manual.  It runs on a 9v battery (included)or A/C adapter
> (not included).  I'd like to get $36.00 plus $4.00 Priority Mail
> shipping.  Make me an offer.

I have this modem and it is a fine unit.  Radio Shack carries a 9v =
lithium battery that works about 3 months for me going online a couple =
times a day. Dave Shier has a custom short cable 12" or so that makes it =
all quite compact.  I don't need another modem, but I hope this helps a =
potential user.     =3DBob=3D

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:33:04 -0500
Reply-To:     speters@kdsi.net
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From:         Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
Subject:      Re: Survey
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The Psion 3mx uses an x86 CPU at, I think 28mhz.
Unfortunately, not DOS. Backlit and I think
it has good battery life.
Didn't DR DOS get put in the public domain?
Writing new ROMs might be more feasible.

John Musielewicz wrote:

> This is a short survey to judge the marketability of a replacement motherboard
> for the Hewlett Packard 200LX Palmtop computer. Thank you for your
> responses.
>
> 1. Would you be interested in a 486SX replacement motherboard for the
>    200LX? If no, why not?
>
> 2. What would you be willing to pay for such an upgrade? Please be reasonable.
>
> 3. What features would you like?
>
> 4. Would the fact that a third party developed it affect the decision
>    to purchase such a product?
>
> 5. How would you use such an upgrade?
>
> To respond, use the reply option, make sure you are replying only
> to a123456@bitstream.net and not the HPLX-L list. List replies will
> not be considered or counted. Let me thank you again for your response.
> Happy 200LXing.
>
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:47:44 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Loose Enter Key
Mime-Version: 1.0
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On 04-21 09:41pm CDT, the following was written:

> Seriously though... does anybody on the list have any idea about how to go
> about making a replacement keyboard for the 200LX?  Presumably even just
> replacing the plastic key assemblies (the regular one and the numpad are
> separate) would be good for those who do lots of typing.

I second that motion, I'm on my second keyboard in my LX. I don't understand
why HP will not sell parts such as the keyboard. I can understand them not
wanting to sell circuit boards and other internal items, but things like the
keyboard that are prone to breakage seem like a natural item to sell,
especially if they used a distributor network i.e. Thaddeus.

73 Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:21:09 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...)
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> Mack, if I recall, started on a motherboard design. Haven't heard anything
> lately. Has it run into a brick wall, Mack?

One of the brick walls I ran into was the price of the BIOS for the SC400
which is a necessary part as it would be hard to build a BIOS that would
talk to the SC400 processors specific registers to handle all the special
stuff such as IRDA, power control, screen control, keyboard, etc.

We have a layout started but it is going slow as the BIOS is a necessary
part to already have for power, keyboard, and screen testing.  This is to
make sure that it will even run off of a couple of AA batteries.  We have
determined that the screen and keyboard can most likely be used, though.

Another problem was finding equipment that can deal with the BGA (Ball Grid
Array) processor.  This is extremely different from a normal surface mount
processor currently used by the HP200LX.  It is quite expensive to farm out
small quantity work for BGA based projects, which this would always be small
in nature.

We have the test board for the Elan SC400 to be able to hook it up to a
screen and to a keyboard, but none of the test BIOS's that come with it can
handle the keyboard or screen interface as they depend on having a VGA card
with monitor and a regular keyboard.

The Elan SC400 chip seems to be the only chip out there that can be used to
make a 200LX replacement board as it is the only one with support for
PCMCIA, LCD controller, matrix keyboard, APM, wakeup alarm, etc.  It has the
potential to be low enough power for use with AA batteries, but I hate to
develop something and end up with a product that only gets 2-3 hours of
battery life.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:30:23 +10
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
Subject:      Re: Task Bar
Comments: To: abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt
In-Reply-To:  <199904220019.BAA03597@tpone.telepac.pt>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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I have try it without succes.
I have this message:
file not found.
Alain
Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:23:23 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jerry Johnson <jajohnso@NETUSA1.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jerry Johnson <jajohnso@NETUSA1.NET>
Subject:      Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!)
Comments: To: Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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Well, I got the idea that RE was part of " in re" which I take to mean
"concerning"   I remember seeing it at the start  law document  and it was
explained to mean "in the matter of"...   (Maybe it migrated from law
documents.)  So... "regarding" would acceptable.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:39:56 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
Subject:      Re: 100LX Memory improvement?
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> I have a 700LX that has 2 pcmcia ports. One holds the DTP-2 datacard for
> mobile phones. I removed it and tried with both a CF card and a SRAM card.
> No dice, nothing showed up in filer or dos. Needs a driver? Mack?

Maybe one of these days I'll find the time to open my 700LX and figure out
what pins are different between the 2 PCMCIA slots and see where they come
out of the Hornet chip.

It might be possible to hand solder a CF card into the palmop, but finding
space for it would be the biggest problem.  It would also be a very time
consuming task and might not work since a driver may be necessary, but
hopefully not.

Cheers,
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:29:47 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Organization: HP200LX User
Subject:      Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...)
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On 04-21 10:21pm CDT, the following was written:

> We have a layout started but it is going slow as the BIOS is a necessary
> part to already have for power, keyboard, and screen testing.  This is to
> make sure that it will even run off of a couple of AA batteries.  We have
> determined that the screen and keyboard can most likely be used, though.

I can vouch that he has been pondering the problem and working on it, but as
Mack says iI would really be a real 'downer' to do all the development work,
spend a bunch of money and just end up with a battery eater.

73 Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:42:21 -0500
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Thanks once again to Rod and the others who offered advice about my lxnntp
set up. I can now sucessfully post to news.hplx.net and my ISP's news server
without any problems. I made a spiffy little batch file that just allows me
to type 'news' when I shell out of Goin' Postal and it sends any outgoing
posts, receives any new posts from both servers then returns back to Goin'
Postal and properly closes the connection :)

73 Jeff
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:50:34 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> While we are speaking of vi editors, can anyone give me a brief tutorial
of
> it. I generally use pico, but I'm having to learn vi to work with the
little
> Minix set up on the LX..... unless I could install pico?!?

Try "mined" in Minix as it is closer to "pico" and loads up faster.

Cheers,
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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:52:25 -0500
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> Actually would Kevlar(tm) or Spectra(tm) fibers be a better choice than
> steel? They're lightweight, flexible and bullet resistant <g>!

Please tell me your not planning on deflecting bullets with your palmtop!
:-)

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:01:24 -0700
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On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Mack Baggette wrote:

> Please tell me your not planning on deflecting bullets with your
> palmtop! :-)

"I'd like to see somebody try THAT with a Windows CE machine."
                                -- Anonymous

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:01:51 -0500
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On 04-21 10:52pm CDT, the following was written:

> Please tell me your not planning on deflecting bullets with your palmtop!
> :-)

Well..... It survived the tornado last year, but you know how overprotective
of it I am <g>, so I the bullet thing might not be a good idea!

73 Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:24:00 -0500
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This TBLX.EXM program is pretty slick :) In fact it may replace Finder on my
LX if I can figure everything out!

73 Jeff W4JEF
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 06:40:05 +0100
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Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> Shouldn't it be possible to communicate with standard IrdA ports? I
> have an IBM ThinkPad 760ED with 2 IrdA ports, one in front and one on
> the back. Why is there no driver to communicate with the LX? The
> ThinkPad supports IrdA and ASK (Sharp).

There is an IrDA driver for printing and WWW/LX supports IrDA modems.
What do you want to do with the IR port?

Andreas

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On 04-21 11:24pm CDT, the following was written:

> This TBLX.EXM program is pretty slick :) In fact it may replace Finder on my
> LX if I can figure everything out!

If anyone else starts playing with the program or translates the docs,
please post it to the list or let us know where the docs can be downloaded.
I have already started messing with the .dat file, maybe I can figure part
of it out.

73 Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:06:15 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
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Does anybody have any knowledge on how the https (secure http) is
handeled by Netscape and others. As I have been told there is no
standard. But how does netscape know what method to use? Is there many
"standards" to choose from?
I have found that https is getting more and more frequent.
I try to do all my bank stuff on Internet. And that forces me to use a
desktop with Netscape.

On WWW/LX, would this be out of the question due to the "no HV
development" fact.
Any experiences on how nettamer and others handles this?
How does WinCE,Psion,PalmPilot etc handle this?


I have temporarily solved it by telneting to a Unix account and there
using LYNX wich handles https.


      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 05:20:25 +0000
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> I second that motion, I'm on my second keyboard in my LX. I don't understand
> why HP will not sell parts such as the keyboard. I can understand them not

Probably because they use "just in time/just enough" manufacturing and
don't produce "excess" keyboards or some other parts.  They probably
just use recycled/rebuilt in units that they fix.

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> > Please tell me your not planning on deflecting bullets with your
> > palmtop! :-)
>
> "I'd like to see somebody try THAT with a Windows CE machine."
>                                 -- Anonymous

Did you mean POSTHUMOUS? (G)

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Hey Mitch, if you still have some of that 'extra' time on your hands, how
'bout making us an icon for Task Bar <g>?

73 Jeff
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    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Subject:      Divide Overflow -- HELP!!
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Hi,
I have an HP 700lx and as of recently each time I boot it and it tries to load
700 (the 700's equiv of 200) it crashes with a divide overflow error.

Re-intialising the ram disk doesn't fix this.Does anyone have an idea as to
what may be causing this?, the few dos programs you get as standard on the 700
rum just fine, so maybe 700 is corrupt, could someone mail me a copy (for
diagnostic purposes only) so I can test this theory?.

Instructions on how best to get it onto the palmtop might help too ;).

Any other hints/advice appreciated.

Regards Darren

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Date:         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:57:35 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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A computer business associate has a copy of Lotus Works shrink wrapped for
$95.

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Terry Owen wrote:

> Following this lead, I found that AlphaWorks became LotusWorks and is
> now discontinued according to the Lotus website.  Anyone have a copy of
> LotusWorks they want to unload?
>
> Terry
> towen@quintrex.com
> owen6511@earthlink.net
>
> p.s. I would have never thought of looking at dogpile.com
>
> > ----------
> > From:         Russell HemerySMTP:rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU
> > Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List; Russell Hemery
> > Sent:         Wednesday, April 14, 1999 12:09 PM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject:      Re: Wanted: Alphaworks
> >
> > I searched using www.dogpile.com using info you tendered. Electric
> > Software
> > Alphaworks.
> >
> > Try http://www.glowcode.com/summary.htm
> >
> > It seems they may be the people mentioned.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Russell
> > Sleepless in Ozland (3am)
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Steve,

Congratulations on the Anniversary!

> Of course, after reading that a pair of them will communicate via infared
> I started eyeing the side of my LX with renewed interest... <grin>

I can just see this: Furby-API complete with Furby commands, furby states,
furby actions... :)
  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:27:17 +0100
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Hi Avi, Andreas and list,
>
> There is another thing what I miss in POST/LX.
> It's a tiny thing for you, but a big thing for me:
>
> It would be great if Post/LX would do a beep
> after downloading all email

It is a tiny thing for you too. Add a line such as

PostOnline=beep.bat

to the SYSTEM section of POST.CFG (or whatever you want instead of
"beep.bat". That way, POST/LX will execute the specified program upon
return from an online run.

> And when I hear the beep I could come back and
> shut down the connection to my ISP.

Simply check the "hangup" box in SETUP.EXE and POST/LX will shut down
the connection automatically.

> And it would be good if there was a possibility to
> let the modem hang up without quitting Post/LX.

See above.

You might want to have a look at the online help of POST/LX.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:27:18 +0100
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Tomas Moberg wrote:
> > Would you go for a  v e r y  s l o w  message list to get that? POST/LX
>
> NO!

Thanks! :-)

> > Would it really be useful? What for? I have been tended to implement it
> > but then I found no real other reason apart from "others have it too".
> > Any suggestions?
>
> Others have it!  ;->

OK. So if this is the only reason but you don't really need it for
anything, I see no reason for implementing it.

> Actualy I have seen it in CC:mail and Lotus Notes and I have found it
> usefull and timesaving to be able to tell wich msg that contains a
> attachment.

So you don't want to know the size, but that it has an attachment? If
this is the case: what is the use of knowing the message has an
attachment (other than that some other mailers show that too :-) ?

> I remove the big unimportent messages first. I rather delete one 10k
> message then 10 1K messages

Hmm. So you need to look at the contents of a message too to decide if
you want to delete it, no? I do not understand how it then helps if the
messages are sorted by size since you have to go through the list
anyway.

Andreas

PS: Do you know that attachments can be removed to save space?

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:27:19 +0100
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Steven Lawson wrote:
> GP's filtering is done prior to downloading the mail.

I don't know GP but it is technically not possible to download headers
only, do a decision and then download the message body only. If it
does a decision after downloading headers, then it *must* download the
headers again, which in total leads to a longer online time (unless
you throw most messages away). So you pay for an *illusion* with
unnecessarily long online times. I don't want that POST/LX fools the
users that way (I am a POST/LX user myself).

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Longden Loo wrote:
> My guess is that filtering is done after the mail is downloaded (and hence the
> phone bill damage is done).

Filtering is done while online, but after the headers of a certain
message are downloaded. If they are not downloaded, there is no way to
tell what's in the headers. At that point, POST/LX must download the
message body too, BTW. It *could* download only the headers first, see
what to do and then download the message body. But that would damage
your phone bill even more because the message body cannot be downloaded
alone but the whole headers would need to be downloaded again too.

So the current version harms your bill least. And if most messages you
want to keep, use the normal download. If most messages you want to
throw away, download only headers.

I believe there is no other scheme that would damage your phone bill
any less. Phone bills in Switzerland are pretty tough and I don't want
to pay more than needed either ;-)

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Steven Lawson wrote:
> Nope, GP filters based on the message header and doesn't download the
> entire message unless it's supposed to.

And when it is "supposed" to, it needs to download all headers *again*,
which often makes up the biggest part of a message.

> If you only need email and want to conserve
> your disk space, WWW/LX would be an overkill for you.

The current version of WWW.EXE is 48k and POST/LX 88k, together with
the configuration files, this sums up to about 140k (plus of course the
composed and downloaded messages). How much disk space does GP need to
make you say WWW/LX for email only is an overkill?

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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Darren Marshall wrote:

> Re-intialising the ram disk doesn't fix this.Does anyone have an idea
> as to what may be causing this?, the few dos programs you get as
> standard on the 700 rum just fine, so maybe 700 is corrupt, could
> someone mail me a copy (for diagnostic purposes only) so I can test
> this theory?.

Do the commands "200" or "100" also work?  If so, do they do the same
thing?

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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote:

> Did you mean POSTHUMOUS? (G)

Boy, tough crowd!

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:15:36 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Fluff: A new toy

Sorry for being dumb, but what's a furby?


Brown, William writes:
> Hmm, now what would the shrinks say to your wife buyng a Furby ?
>
> I've been sitting here so long it's now my 40th birthday (by 30 minutes).
> Dear Doctor, if I get a Furby from my wife as a present do I :
>
> (a)     Write an interface for it for the LX
>
> (b)     Switch off the PC and talk to the wife
>
> (c)     Switch off the PC and talk to the Furby
>
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:45:46 +0200
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<snip>
Here are the procedures for auto forward notes mail to other E-mail account:

- @ your mailbox
- Create-Agent
- Agent Name, i.e. "Auto Forward Mail"
- @ "When should this agent run?" Select "If New Mail has arrived"
- Select "Simple"
- Select "Add Action"
- Select "Send Mail Message"
- fill-up "To", "Subject" & "Body"
- Select "Include copy of document"
- Select "OK"
- Save the Agent

</snip>


This is no solution! Perhaps you can call it a workaround. The sender and the subject will allways be the same (your name and the given subject). If you get some 3 or 5 mails per day, it's ok. But I get about 200 daily. Think of an Inbox full of mails with same sender and subject!!!

There has to be another solution.

-goe-

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:49:51 +0200
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The URL of CARGO seems to be

http://member.nifty.ne.jp/cargo/hp200lx.htm

found it on altavista with the command:
host:*.jp +cargo +lx

 bye
-goe-

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Subject:      Re: 200LX Backlite

Of course that means you have to carry a charger with you too along
with the ac adapter if you use a backlite. I guess if all a person
does is use their 200LX around home it would be no big deal but if
you travel a lot why would you want to have to carry a charger? A better
solution would be to increase the charging current to about 500 ma
along with installing a backlight. That way you could cut the charging
time down to a couple hours.

John

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:56:21 -0500
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All,

I have a 1000cx that is doing great, but since it doesnt have the 200lx
builtin
applications im wondering if there is a way to run EXM executables on the
1000cx?

There are a few EXM's (like the one linked to below) that I would like to
experiment
with, but don't know a way to do it? Is there?

Thanks In Advance,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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From: stephan.goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 2:51 AM
Subject: Win95-like Menubar


>The URL of CARGO seems to be
>
>http://member.nifty.ne.jp/cargo/hp200lx.htm
>
>found it on altavista with the command:
>host:*.jp +cargo +lx
>
> bye
>-goe-
>
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Subject:      Re: Running EXM's without sysmgr?   Is it possible?

I think there is a launcher on the SUPER site. It assigns a EXE to
the EXM so you can run it as a normal execute file. Look under
Misc


Alchemist writes:
> All,
>
> I have a 1000cx that is doing great, but since it doesnt have the 200lx
> builtin
> applications im wondering if there is a way to run EXM executables on the
> 1000cx?
>
> There are a few EXM's (like the one linked to below) that I would like to
> experiment
> with, but don't know a way to do it? Is there?
>
> Thanks In Advance,
>
> Dan
> driden@stlnet.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stephan.goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 2:51 AM
> Subject: Win95-like Menubar
>
>
> >The URL of CARGO seems to be
> >
> >http://member.nifty.ne.jp/cargo/hp200lx.htm
> >
> >found it on altavista with the command:
> >host:*.jp +cargo +lx
> >
> > bye
> >-goe-
> >
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>
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In that case, do not fill up the "subject", instead select "more", then
choose "Formula", click on the "fields/functions", choose "fields" and
"subject".
It should show the original subject.

Roger

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On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) wrote:
>
> > Maybe not useful to many, but interesting:
> > http://www.quantrad.com/qs05000.htm
>
> I'd like to add the obligatory "Let's see somebody run a nuclear
> spectroscopy system on a Windows CE machine" now.  <g>

Oh, I think that "Nuclear Spectroscopy Wizard" will be available in the
next release of Win CE...


Cheers,

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...)


>> Mack, if I recall, started on a motherboard design. Haven't heard
anything
>> lately. Has it run into a brick wall, Mack?
>
>One of the brick walls I ran into was the price of the BIOS for the SC400
>which is a necessary part as it would be hard to build a BIOS that would
>talk to the SC400 processors specific registers to handle all the special
>stuff such as IRDA, power control, screen control, keyboard, etc.
>
>We have a layout started but it is going slow as the BIOS is a necessary
>part to already have for power, keyboard, and screen testing.  This is to
>make sure that it will even run off of a couple of AA batteries.  We have
>determined that the screen and keyboard can most likely be used, though.


Have you looked at the BIOS toolkit, ROM-DOS and WINLight at
www.datalight.com?
They have a mini-development kit for the SC400 processors which might have
what your are looking for.  I was just looking over their doc as well as
AMD's doc
on the chip at AMD's site.   This could be an interesting platform for a
200lx
replacement.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:06:57 +0800
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HI there,

I think the TBLX is a pretty cool s/w. I'm not a tech person so how do you
make it work with my currently config?

Thanks

Jason
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From: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 22 April, 1999 12:26 PM
Subject: TBLX :)


>This TBLX.EXM program is pretty slick :) In fact it may replace Finder on
my
>LX if I can figure everything out!
>
>73 Jeff W4JEF
>    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
>    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
>    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
>    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
>    *------------------------------------------------------------------*
>
>Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED
>
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From:         Rick Rae <RickRae@USA.NET>
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I have a 200LX that has "bit the dust" -- a friend who borrowed it and
didn't understand the HP way of things apparently inserted NiMH batteries
backwards and "fried" the power supply inverter.  I'm looking into having
it repaired, but I figure swapping the motherboard might be less expensive.

So, if anyone on the list has (or knows of) an LX with a broken hinge or a
bad display or something that renders it useless but with a good
motherboard, please let me know.  I am willing to buy a whole palmtop or
just the motherboard itself.  A 1MB version is fine; larger is better.

Thanks,
Rick

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On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:40:05 -0400, you wrote:
>From:    Michael Kopplin <kopplin@PRIMENET.COM>
>    The World's First Palmtop Webserver!   <snip
>Sorry M$ Internet Explorer users. It doesn't seem
>to work with most versions of IE past 3.0.
Well done! Incidentally, I went to the site with the Win98 IE (ie IE
4.0), no problems.

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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      JoustVGA

Anybody know if a version of Joust has been written for CGA?

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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> Anybody know if a version of Joust has been written for CGA?

Atari's original conversion of Joust was written for CGA.

(I don't have it, BTW)

Cheers,

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:43:14 -0500
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Is there a tutorial or a webpage or a book that could give me
information about learning how to program for the LX?

I'm an RPG programmer on the AS400 by profession, so I imagine I would
have to learn another language for programming on the LX. What is a good
language to learn for this endeavor...  C? PERL? FORTH? BASIC?

Where do I start??

TIA,
Steve

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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <199904220212.VAA04619x@scott.net> from "Jeff Johns" at Apr 21,
              99 08:37:54 pm
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> While we are speaking of vi editors, can anyone give me a brief tutorial of
> it. I generally use pico, but I'm having to learn vi to work with the little
> Minix set up on the LX..... unless I could install pico?!?

Jeff:

May I recommend the book "Learning the VI Editor" by Linda Lamb.  I have
the latest edition (6th) and an older one (5th maybe?).  They are both
packed up in a box right now, but the older edition was smaller and included
a REAL handy cheat-sheet of vi commands.  I see that they're selling a
companion pocket reference book.   I'm getting my information from the
Amazon.com website.  I ordered my latest copy from the publisher, O'Reilly
and Associates.  So there are at least two places you can order it from.

Good luck with it.  The learning curve is STEEP, but in my case, once
I learned it, it had proven to be the best and most powerful editor I've
ever used.  (Please don't start another thread on whose editor is best).

-Chris

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:49:39 -0500
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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Those of you who are looking for modems might be interested
in the following post I came across on Usenet.  I have used
my XJ2144 modem quite successfully for a year and a half,
and am considering buying another as the X-Jack has stopped
retracting all the way.  I typically can run nearly an hour
online using my XJ2144 in my 200LX with fresh NiCd batteries.

I have not dealt with this fellow before, and have no data
regarding his reliability.

Ted

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Theodore Heise   <theise@netins.net>   West Lafayette, IN, USA



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> From: kento@eznet.net (Kento)
> Newsgroups: alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp,comp.sys.newton.marketplace
> Subject: FS:PCMCIA 14.4 Modems for PDA's $12.99
> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:26:50 -0400
> Organization: Posted via RemarQ Communities, Inc.
>
> 4/21/99
> FS: (240) Megahertz GOLD series PCMCIA  14.4 Data/Fax Modems $12.99 each
> Works in Newtons and HP200LX palmtops, among others!
> (Made by US Robotics)
>
> Discounts on bulk purchases of 10 or more!
>
> PC Card Modem Specs:
> -Model# XJ 2144  ( XJ2144 )
> -PCMCIA Standard
> -Megahertz PCMCIA Gold Series
> -XJack allows the use of a standard telephone cable that connects the
> modem to the wall jack
> -14,400 / 14,400 speeds for Modem / Fax
> -Low current drain
> -Works on many palmtops, including the HP200LX and later Newtons
> -***THESE ARE NOT WINCE COMPATIBLE***
> -No software comes with this. Most systems recognize the modem
> automatically
> -These modems were pulled from laptops that were upgraded to faster
> modems. All the modems are in excellent condition, they do not look like
> they were used.
> -While supplies last, these modems come with a jewel case made  for this
> PCMCIA card modem.
>
> I  warranty the modems  for 30 days. If you are not satisfied within 30
> days, return it and I will gladly refund your money (minus shipping).
>
> DEALERS: Bulk orders always get a better price. Make an offer!
>
> Go here to see the specs on my website for these Modems:
> http://home.eznet.net/~kento/mhzpcm.html
>
> Shipping to Europe is $3.75.
> Shipping in US: $2.00
>
> Thanks in Advance!
> Kento
>
> Kento's Discount Hardware  & Trade Page:
> http://home.eznet.net/~kento
>
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: JoustVGA

Laust Brock-Nannestad writes:
> On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> > Anybody know if a version of Joust has been written for CGA?
>
> Atari's original conversion of Joust was written for CGA.
>
> (I don't have it, BTW)
>
Do you know if it'll run?

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Subject:      Backlighting

I don't know if Thaddeus is listening but I would pay real money
for a backlit HP200LX that didn't require an external power supply.
Would I use it all the time? No, just when I had the HP plugged in
and when occasionally I would want to use it at night (looking up a
phone number next to a payphone for example).

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:59:39 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> So you don't want to know the size, but that it has an attachment? If
> this is the case: what is the use of knowing the message has an
> attachment (other than that some other mailers show that too :-) ?

I actually use this feature quite often on the desktop whenever I have to go
back and find a message with a document I need.  I would rather not have to
look at every message and just the ones that have attachments.

Cheers,
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:00:06 -0400
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I don't know if this happened to anyone else but I found that
X-finder R.9 had difficulty displaying certain icons and would
draw them oddly -- usually a black vertical line along the right
side.  Well, I came across a solution this morning:  using
icn200lx.exe, invert the icon and save, then invert and save it
for a second time.  My icon then appeared normal in X-Finder.
Strange.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:50:39 -0400
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How does one 'peel' the keyboard apart for the repair?

Scott Dunaway                 ---o

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:54:39 -0400
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I tried using a ACTiSYS (ACT-IR-200L) infrared adapter with TransFile 200,
but no luck.  Anybody else get this combo working?  My PC is a Dell
OptiPlex GX1 running, what else?, Win95.   TIA.

Scott Dunaway                 ---o

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:09:28 -0500
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The thing that you are "peeling" off is the black keyboard mask with the
lettering that is around the keys.

Steve

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        Subject:        Re: Loose Enter Key

        How does one 'peel' the keyboard apart for the repair?

        Scott Dunaway                 ---o

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I found that using an Exacto knife worked well for this. Just carefully
lift up a corner, and then you can grab it with your fingers and pull it
on off. It has some sticky stuff on the back, so you can put it back on
when you're done.

Steve

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        How does one 'peel' the keyboard apart for the repair?

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:27:31 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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From:         Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
Subject:      Re: Backlit 200LX
Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
In-Reply-To:  <8DE7A813C6C1D211BD1B0090272A78C1225ECD@N3CDOIMMAIL160M>; from
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1999-04-21-18:56:36 Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO:
> How many on this list own ONLY two rechargeable AAs?  OK, be honest now ;-)

I own 6; two NiMHs in my LX, 2 NiMHs in my wife's LX, and an old pair of Radio
Shack "Hi Capacity" 850mAH NiCDs sitting in a drawer, that I used in my LX
before R-S started carrying NiMHs. I only use one pair.

I use batset so that the LX drops to trickle-charge after 1 minute (the
shortest interval you can set), and I plug it in while I'm sleeping and
whenever I'm at my desk. It mostly stays topped off.

I use it all the time, and sometimes for very long stretches on batteries
(mostly Vertical Reader).

I always have a spare pair of batteries with me, because I keep a mini-maglite
in my bag with single-user Lithiums in it, but I've never had to use them. I
really like this setup.

-Bennett

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:40:41 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Mack Baggette wrote:
> I actually use this feature quite often on the desktop whenever I have to go
> back and find a message with a document I need.  I would rather not have to
> look at every message and just the ones that have attachments.

Would you think this could be useful on the palmtop too (how many
WinWord documents do you get on the palmtop that you want to keep?)?

Andreas

PS: Why don't you save the documents in the first place? They need less
space when saved due to the encoding.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:42:32 -0500
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              Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM>
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Was that the original price of the software?  I purchased a used copy
from a list member for a minute fraction of this asking price.

Of course, it does have a very nice little relational database that I am
running on a 1meg 100lx, so might be worth it if someone has the money
to burn...<g>

Terry

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> From:         Bob MeyerSMTP:bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM
> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List; Bob Meyer
> Sent:         Thursday, April 22, 1999 12:57 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      Re: LotusWorks? (Was RE: Wanted: Alphaworks)
>
> A computer business associate has a copy of Lotus Works shrink wrapped
> for
> $95.
>
> Bob Meyer
> bmeyer@union-tel.com
> Elk Mountain WY
>
> Terry Owen wrote:
>
> > Following this lead, I found that AlphaWorks became LotusWorks and
> is
> > now discontinued according to the Lotus website.  Anyone have a copy
> of
> > LotusWorks they want to unload?
> >
> > Terry
> > towen@quintrex.com
> > owen6511@earthlink.net
> >
> > p.s. I would have never thought of looking at dogpile.com
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From:         Russell HemerySMTP:rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU
> > > Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List; Russell Hemery
> > > Sent:         Wednesday, April 14, 1999 12:09 PM
> > > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > > Subject:      Re: Wanted: Alphaworks
> > >
> > > I searched using www.dogpile.com using info you tendered. Electric
> > > Software
> > > Alphaworks.
> > >
> > > Try http://www.glowcode.com/summary.htm
> > >
> > > It seems they may be the people mentioned.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Russell
> > > Sleepless in Ozland (3am)
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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1999-04-22-03:29:47 Jeff Johns:
> ... but as Mack says it would really be a real 'downer' to do all the
> development work, spend a bunch of money and just end up with a battery
> eater.

For whatever it's worth, if someone were to offer me a machine with a keyboard
I can use, that fits in my pocket (HP LXes are the only candidates that make
it this far), capable of running real Linux (32-bit CPU, 4+MB RAM, 20+MB
"disk"), I'd accept a run-time as short as a few hours. That would be so
fiendishly useful, yowza.

-Bennett

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:06:35 -0400
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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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I mentioned the DOS APPEND command for searhing
for data files.  Actually for an *.INI file in
the same directory as the executable file, the
DOS environment can be searched for the path to
the executable and then that used for the *.INI.
Wrote one of those in 1994 and totally forgot
about it.  (Oops)

Steve

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:09:03 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:50:01 -0400 (EDT)

Hi gang-

Thanks to Antonio, I installed TBLX last nite, and played around a
little.  Cool looking program!  8-)

Most of what I've figured out is probably obvious, though...

run
dosline=3D(hex number)  The hex number here and on other lines is the
hotkey code for the .exm

find
Filename=3D
Contents=3D
Hex numbers here, too.  Hotkeys for whereis.exm & gs.exm
It looks like you can change the titles to what you want.

program
List your .exm programs and hotkeys here

PIM
Same for the built-in apps

Bad news is -- I have NO IDEA what the items in the options section
do, other than that 123g and ip are both .exm programs (123g makes a
palmtop GUI menu for 123 - don't know what ip does).  Tried 0, 1, and 2
for the Taskbar=3D line and saw no effect.  If anyone figures anything
out, please post it to the list.

Later

-Peniel
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Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:03:06 -0400 (EDT)

01h19m44s ago ...
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Steve Dowell wrote:

>  What is a good
> language to learn for this endeavor...  C? PERL? FORTH? BASIC?

I'm partial to Forth.  Grab HP-Pygmy from SUPER.  This is a version of
Frank Sergeant's Pygmy with a bunch of palmtop extensions.

-Peniel
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:06:40 -0400
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              systemsconsulting@CSI.COM
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Subject:      Re: Regarding: vi Tutorial
Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Jeff,

Another source of programming books is

http://www.fatbrain.com/

This is a more focused site with good pricing



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
Maximizing the results of Information Systems

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> mailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of R. Christopher Lott
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 8:44 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Regarding: vi Tutorial
>
>
> > While we are speaking of vi editors, can anyone give me a brief
> tutorial of
> > it. I generally use pico, but I'm having to learn vi to work
> with the little
> > Minix set up on the LX..... unless I could install pico?!?
>

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:11:16 +0200
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The ICN files have 4 unused bits in each pixel row, at the end of the
row - there is space in the ICN file to store 48 pixels in each row, but
only 44 are used (the icons are 44x32).

It can happen that these icons have these 4x32 bits not zeroed, and that
makes no difference in application manager, and does make a difference
in X-Finder.

I did not test this, but maybe you could use this bug/feature of
X-Finder to display 48x32 icons.

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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> I'm partial to Forth.  Grab HP-Pygmy from SUPER.  This is a version of
> Frank Sergeant's Pygmy with a bunch of palmtop extensions.

That would be good if he didn't spell his name wrong.  <g>

PAL and the HP EXM development utilities are designed to work with C, so
that's probably the most all-purpose language to use for LX programming.

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Correction: You only need to save after the second inversion; no need
to save twice.

Edward Moy wrote:

> I don't know if this happened to anyone else but I found that
> X-finder R.9 had difficulty displaying certain icons and would
> draw them oddly -- usually a black vertical line along the right
> side.  Well, I came across a solution this morning:  using
> icn200lx.exe, invert the icon and save, then invert and save it
> for a second time.  My icon then appeared normal in X-Finder.
> Strange.
>
> Ed

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:28:52 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<I don't know if Thaddeus is listening but I would pay real money
for a backlit HP200LX that didn't require an external power supply.>>

Oh Thaddeus is always listening<g>. Various people have been working on
a solution for some time. Believe me, we would love to sell a backliting
solution -- it would be a real service to the Palmtop community and it
would prolong our ability to support the palmtop as a business.

Our biggest concern is coming up with a way that is not too labor
intensive (ideally not more than 15 minutes a unit), and even more
importantly minimizes the chances of damaging the screen.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:42:18 -0500
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              Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM>
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Steve - I think it depends on what you want to program.  I asked this
same question a couple of months ago and got a variety of responses. In
my case, there was already a program out there and a kind soul pointed
me in the right direction. Sometimes someone else has already written
the program you need - which is better than re-inventing the wheel, IMO.


I am also an AS/400 programmer and RPG is a fairly wordy language,
making Forth and Basic good transitional languages.  I like Rexx for
simple stuff (and it runs on the 400!) and would like to learn it
better.

You might want to check out a little language called Tipi, too.  It has
an HP-like GUI, lots of example programs and is very readable.

http://www.leo.org/pub/comp/os/dos/programming/tipi/index.html

Terry

> ----------
> From:         Steve DowellSMTP:sdowell@HARRAHS.COM
> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List; Steve Dowell
> Sent:         Thursday, April 22, 1999 7:43 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      Programming on the LX...
>
> Is there a tutorial or a webpage or a book that could give me
> information about learning how to program for the LX?
>
> I'm an RPG programmer on the AS400 by profession, so I imagine I would
> have to learn another language for programming on the LX. What is a
> good
> language to learn for this endeavor...  C? PERL? FORTH? BASIC?
>

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:56:54 -0400
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Doh!  You don't even have to invert it.  Just open it in icn200lx, save
and quit.

Edward Moy wrote:

> Correction: You only need to save after the second inversion; no need
> to save twice.
>
> Edward Moy wrote:
>
> > I don't know if this happened to anyone else but I found that
> > X-finder R.9 had difficulty displaying certain icons and would
> > draw them oddly -- usually a black vertical line along the right
> > side.  Well, I came across a solution this morning:  using
> > icn200lx.exe, invert the icon and save, then invert and save it
> > for a second time.  My icon then appeared normal in X-Finder.
> > Strange.
> >
> > Ed
>
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The only problem I see with all these spiffy new menu programs (SMMX,
X-Finder, TBLX) is that they all take up a lot of memory.  Is it possible
to write an EXM program that would take advantage of EMS and only use a
few kilobytes of conventional memory?

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Just wanted to let you know how its going.

4.25% response

Overwhelming in favour of an upgrade.
2 maybes 0 negatives

Seems like the overwhelming majority would like it to
run more programs, a few for a more advanced operating system.
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An interesting question.  Does anyone know of ANY EXM that uses EMS?

- Longden





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Subject:  Menu programs




The only problem I see with all these spiffy new menu programs (SMMX,
X-Finder, TBLX) is that they all take up a lot of memory.  Is it possible
to write an EXM program that would take advantage of EMS and only use a
few kilobytes of conventional memory?

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> An interesting question.  Does anyone know of ANY EXM that uses EMS?

Furthermore, why would such a program have to be an .EXM to utilize EMS?
Can't an ordinary DOS .EXE program use EMS?

-Chris "EMS Ignorant" Lott


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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> Furthermore, why would such a program have to be an .EXM to utilize
> EMS? Can't an ordinary DOS .EXE program use EMS?

Yes, an ordinary DOS program can use EMS if it's designed to do so.  The
question, though, is if EXM programs can use it as well.  That would free
up lots of memory, especially in the case of these menu programs.

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There's no question that an ordinary EXE can use EMS (if it's programmed to do
so).

I think Dave's interest is having a SysMgr compliant program to allow all the
good stuff that goes with it (mostly cut and paste...but other things too), but
at the same time keeping the available memory high thru the use of EMS.

His interest was in the menu programs...but I was just curious about EXM in
general (whether they can use EMS...I don't think so).

- Longden





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> An interesting question.  Does anyone know of ANY EXM that uses EMS?

Furthermore, why would such a program have to be an .EXM to utilize EMS?
Can't an ordinary DOS .EXE program use EMS?

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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:20:32 -0500, Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

> Hey Mitch, if you still have some of that 'extra' time on your hands, =
how
> 'bout making us an icon for Task Bar <g>?

Hi Jeff,

There is really no need for an Icon with TaskBar if you have Moreexm
installed, just remap your hot keys to the &... (MORE) with Exkey.

So when you want to bring up the TaskBar just press the &... key, works
great.

Tip: a:\bin\tblx.exm,6B00,1,TaskBar
Add a 1 here_____________  to all of your .exm this will enable overlappi=
ng
so the TaskBar will come up under the TopCard and any .exm running.


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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:06:57 +0800, Jason Sim <jasonyc@CYBERWAY.COM.SG> =
wrote:

> HI there,
>
> I think the TBLX is a pretty cool s/w. I'm not a tech person so how do =
you
> make it work with my currently config?

Hi Jason & List Members

What you need todo is edit yoyr tblx.dat.

Here is a copy of my setup for your review, maybe that'll get you
start, also its best to have Moreexm installed so you can see/find the
keycodes for your installed .exm.

For your non-exm programs there is a
program on the SUPER Site that will corvert .exe, .com, .bat to .exm
its  what I used to get POST/LX and a few others to run from the taskBar.

option
taskbar=3D2
allkill=3D4000
tblxend=3D1
123g=3D08A9
ip=3D07BD

run
dosline=3D8100

find
Filename=3D6900
Contents=3D6d00

program
Accessories=3D0
PIM=3D0
Internet=3D0
Games=3D0
Quicken=3Dac00
Lotus 123=3Dbc00
DOS Prompt=3Dc200
Tasklist=3D7100
KeyM=3DA700
X-Finder=3D6f00
Log Express=3DC300

<Accessories>
Filer=3Da800
Memo=3Db800
Calc=3Dc000
Swatch=3Db600
Database=3Dba00
Note=3Dbe00
World=3Dc600
Macros=3Daa00
Laplink=3Dab00
CCmail=3Dbf00
HP Alarm=3D069c

<PIM>
Appointments=3Db000
Phonebook=3Db400

<Internet>
Postlx=3D05f9
Comm=3Db200

<Games>
Heart&Bones=3Dc300

HTH

Regards,

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> And when it is "supposed" to, it needs to download all headers *again*,
> which often makes up the biggest part of a message.

That depends on what kind of messages you get.  If you get alot of
attachments, or messages from Windoze s/w (with all the 'HTML copy' and
'card' crap) the header becomes less of an issue.

Not being able to read the message w/o the header is a limitation of the
POP protocol.  It's your choice in GP.  You can always skip the
header-only read by leaving GP in normal mode, and setting a maximum
message size to avoid large attachment downloads.

I have never ran WWW/LX, so I'm certainly not going to badmouth the way
you chose to make it behave.  Judging by the number of happy users, I
assume that it works very well.  You chose to badmouth the way I decided
to make GP behave, yet I'm not aware that you have ever ran my software
either.

> The current version of WWW.EXE is 48k and POST/LX 88k, together with
> the configuration files, this sums up to about 140k (plus of course the
> composed and downloaded messages). How much disk space does GP need to
> make you say WWW/LX for email only is an overkill?

GP V2 took up 114k, and V3beta is sitting in <135k.  This is complete, no
stripping away parts of it like the configuration code.  You can reduce
this another 5k if you need to.  "Overkill" wasn't meant to say WWW/LX is
bad or bloated, I specifically meant that paying an extra $60 for all the
features of WWW/LX and then only using the email was a waste.  Would you
suggest purchasing MS Word to edit your AUTOEXEC.BAT file?

Personally, as I pointed out in that mail, I think alot of people will end
up buying both.  Jeff Johns, who has a copy of both our software, moves
between both of them.  They each have their strong points.

Lets not involve the list further on why each of us thinks the other did
it 'wrong'.  People can try both out for themselves.  We each picked what
we thought was the way to handle the protocol.  Letting people on the list
know what our strong points are is productive.  Telling them why the other
sucks (especially when we don't use it) is a waste of bandwith, just like
a "Ford vs Chevy" argument (since *everyone* knows the Chevy wins <grin>)

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> I don't know GP but it is technically not possible to download headers
> only, do a decision and then download the message body only. If it
> does a decision after downloading headers, then it *must* download the
> headers again, which in total leads to a longer online time (unless
> you throw most messages away). So you pay for an *illusion* with
> unnecessarily long online times. I don't want that POST/LX fools the
> users that way (I am a POST/LX user myself).

Yes, it's a large hole in the POP protocol.  As with most things in life
you give up one thing to get another.  Since WWW/LX is not using the TOP
command to get the header, it has no way of *not* reading a message once
it starts.  Each way has it's benefits and its drawbacks.  GP only does
the extra header read when you're using features that require it.  If GP
is just downloading all messages, it skips the TOP command.

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Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:13:52 -0400 (EDT)

27m33s ago ...
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> Here is a copy of my setup for your review, maybe that'll get you
> start, also its best to have Moreexm installed so you can see/find the
> keycodes for your installed .exm.


Hey, great work Qman!

I see you have it set up to use folders for your programs.  Have you
figured out what any of the stuff in option does?  Also do you have
LogExpress and Ip working?  I DLd both from Vector about a week or so
back, but they seem to need Japanese fonts to work...

TBLX looks like another winner!  8-)

Later

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> Lets not involve the list further on why each of us thinks the other did
> it 'wrong'.

Until you just mentioned it, I didn't get this sense out of any of the
previous posts on this topic.  I enjoyed reading about the the different
issues and techniques of interacting with the POP server, and found the
exchanges to be technically enlightening.  I didn't perceive any "bashing"
or "badmouthing".   I say keep up this kind of technical exchange when
these issues are brought up.  (Avoiding, of course, any of the negatives
listed above).

-Chris Lott


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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:09:03 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> =
wrote:

> Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:50:01 -0400 (EDT)
>
> Hi gang-
>
> Thanks to Antonio, I installed TBLX last nite, and played around a
> little.  Cool looking program!  8-)
>
> Most of what I've figured out is probably obvious, though...

TBLX is the program that I use to dream about, even tried to convince
a few to create such a program awhile back and it true good things do =
come
to those who wait & dream. (:-)

Like I said earlier this year 1999 is going to be a great year. Just
look at all of the new stuff that we've encouterd already and its
only April. (:-)

Tip: To close an open task from the TaskBar tab to it and press the DEL =
key.

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To TBLX users,

 what function(s) does TBLX give you that makes it worthwhile to install and
use?

At the risk of sounding somewhat jaded, I can close an app already by hilighting
the icon in AppMgr and pressing F6.

- Longden





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TBLX is the program that I use to dream about, even tried to convince
a few to create such a program awhile back and it true good things do come
to those who wait & dream. (:-)

Like I said earlier this year 1999 is going to be a great year. Just
look at all of the new stuff that we've encouterd already and its
only April. (:-)

Tip: To close an open task from the TaskBar tab to it and press the DEL key.

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>
> And it would be good if there was a possibility to
> let the modem hang up without quitting Post/LX.
>

Most any modem should support this.  There is a register 19 that
sets an inactivity timer.

S19     Sets the duration, in minutes, of the Inactivity Timer.  The
timer activates when there is no data activity on the phone line; at
timeout the modem hangs up.  S19 = 0 disables the timer.

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> On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> > What's wrong with typing on the 200LX? I can type with great speed on
> > it. It not even uncomfortable. You just make shorter strokes. The only
> > thing is I wish I could connect a larger screen. It would be a lot
> > easier to use at a desk.
>
> Nothing's wrong with it.  I also type with great speed on it.  (Granted,
> with SmartCaps turned on.)  And the 200LX keyboard is the best palmtop
> keyboard I've ever used.  I'm just saying that if I could type as fast as
> I can on the 200LX, on the 320LX, it would be a lot more useful.  But it's
> nowhere close.  And it's not even the hardware's fault.  The response to
> keystrokes is just so terrible that it's more like <type a word> <wait two
> seconds> <type another word> <wait a second> <type another word> <wait
> three seconds>...
>

And you said this machine was 40 Mhz.

Thinking about this then, even if the machine was 80 Mhz, it would
still lag?  Seems like.  Instead, you'd be waiting 1 second.

If it was a noticeable lag on a 40 Mhz machine, it would still be
noticeable at 80 Mhz.

Ah well, those are hopeless then.  Everything produced in 1997-98
was probably below 100 Mhz.

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From:                   Rick Rae <RickRae@usa.net>
Subject:                WTB: 200LX Motherboard
To:                     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> I have a 200LX that has "bit the dust" -- a friend who borrowed it and
> didn't understand the HP way of things apparently inserted NiMH batteries
> backwards and "fried" the power supply inverter.  I'm looking into having

You can do that with this machine?  I thought all these kinds of
machines would be unaffected by how batteries are inserted.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:58:46 -0700
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If I falsly sensed that Andreas was saying GP was doing it badly, then I
appologize.  I'm perfectly happy discussing the technical issues with the
list.  Neither product is doing it badly, just different.  There are
tradeoffs in each way you do it, and what works best for one person will
not be the best for another.  We each have to get around shortcomings in
the protocol, which leads to different solutions.

I hope the "overkill" part wasn't taken as a bash on WWW/LX.  It was
fully intended to be a "use the tool sized for the job" comment.  I really
try hard to avoid critisizing WWW/LX as I have alot of respect for it.
I've only used HV.EXE, but can see Andreas has gotten alot out of the
little LX.  If WWW/LX were the product it is today, at it's current price,
I may never have begun coding Goin' Postal.

And I appologize to all you Ford owners with my "Ford vs. Chevy" comment.
You have enough to worry about with your Ford without me picking on you..

<really big grin>

> > Lets not involve the list further on why each of us thinks the other did
> > it 'wrong'.
>
> Until you just mentioned it, I didn't get this sense out of any of the
> previous posts on this topic.  I enjoyed reading about the the different
> issues and techniques of interacting with the POP server, and found the
> exchanges to be technically enlightening.  I didn't perceive any "bashing"
> or "badmouthing".   I say keep up this kind of technical exchange when
> these issues are brought up.  (Avoiding, of course, any of the negatives
> listed above).

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> > I have a 200LX that has "bit the dust" -- a friend who borrowed it and
> > didn't understand the HP way of things apparently inserted NiMH batteries
> > backwards and "fried" the power supply inverter.  I'm looking into having
>
> You can do that with this machine?  I thought all these kinds of
> machines would be unaffected by how batteries are inserted.

so you see that - unlike users of other machines - typical HP200LX-
users are clever enough to distinguish "+" (pronounced "plus") from
"-" (pronounced "minus"). This is some kind of test to determine
whether the user is worthy to use this device, though less gifted
people still have a chance of 50 percent to pass the test.

Reinhard :)

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:52:15 -0500
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Dirt cheap.  It's on your palmtop right now.  Read the owner's manual and it
will explain how to set-up a LapLink Remote session with your desktop PC.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO SMTP:RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL
>
> Is it expensive? Or is this a dumb Q. (maybe it's abandoned/free-ware out
> there)?  Maybe because I have an old 100LX and the 200LX, I "own" two
> copies
> of the program and can copy it to my PC, as long as I don't use it on 3
> computers at the same time?
>

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:57:01 -0400
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Subject:      What TINA for DOS v.2.xx is... (Re: Palmtop Circuit)

    Hello all,

As I said, there is an offer to buy Palmtop Circuit AND Tina for DOS
version 2.6 together for USD149. So, what is Tina for DOS v2.xx?

SHORT: It is same as PAlmtop CIrcuit, plus supports analysis with:
noise, worstcase, Monte-Carlo method, multiple analysis, tolerance and
extended optimize functionality, which are partly missing from PACI.
Analysis of digital circuits is still NOT available. It was made by
DesignSoft in Hungary, just like Palmtop Circuit.

Please understand however, that TINA is geared towards desktop PC as
running computer; because it supports measurement and thus relies
heavily on the optional ISA-8 bus I/O card and external 16-channel box
to make use of all it's capabilities. Without card: no measurement.

You'll be able to access some of the before-mentioned extra functions
as Tina for DOS v2.xx runs on PC/XT with CGA; but you'll have to live
with a 25-33% slowdown, compared to Palmtop Circuit, when running the
same task. This is because Palmtop Circuit is not only a stripped down
version of Tina for DOS; rather several parts have been rewritten to
optimize run on HPLX, an XT w/o FPU.

DesignSoft claims that Tina for DOS v 2.xx is not a suitable repla-
cement for Palmtop Circuit on LX, as it's slow, when running medium
complexity tasks. Also, Tina surely requires you to part with many
TSRs; as 590KB free is needed. However if you can't live without extra
features and have a 2x/DS machine, try if you wish.

Optional hardware: ISA-8 card and 16-channel splitter box will cost
270USD each (or 500USD for both), however attaching ISA cards to
the HPLX has not been tried.  IMO, it should be possible, there is
BUF-Card(PC) PCMCIA-to-ISA card by <www.contecusa.com>. Should work.
But I admit, there's no point in hooking 13" long ISA cards to HPLX

The Tina licence will allow you to install Tina for DOS v2.xx on two
computers, one palmtop and one desktop. Thus if you wish to have the
desktop equipped with card and splitter box, you can take advantage
of all of TINA's measurement functionality. Tina is available alone
(eg. not bundled with Palmtop Circuit), but then it will cost 100USD.

If you buy Tina or Tina+Palmtop Circuit, these will be sent to you on
1 CD-RW disk, as Tina takes two floppies, which would prevent sending
the package as 1 week, air-mail. Thus the price would be higher to
include more bucks for shipping if floppies were chosen.

LONG version: I think the post line limit is 100, so the Tina for DOS
ver. 2.5 description (3 pages of text) will be in a third posting.

               Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

Ps: There is a slim chance, that they will create / downsize a TINA
for DOS version 3.xx special edition for the 200LX. Tina for DOS
v.3.xx needed an AT/286 minimum and supported analysis of the
digital circuits as well. They say it may be possible to downscale
it to run on XT and still provide support for at least a limited
range of digital circuitry.

But it won't be any soon and would cost too much to be sensible.
They would have to rewrite most of the code and use something more
effective, than Borland Pascal or Delphi to get it go on HPLX.
It would also require a memory upgraded LX to have ample EMS/EMM.
However, they may make it for some reason I can't explain.

I do think, this move is only acceptable, if they provide
upgrade for the Palmtop Circuit and Tina for DOS v2.xx users
at a nominal fee; because I don't think the LX users should act
as unlimited financial resource to help DesignSoft market their
Windows versions of software at a discount <grin>.

               Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:46:17 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> Would you think this could be useful on the palmtop too (how many
> WinWord documents do you get on the palmtop that you want to keep?)?

I also have some small programs, text documents, P.O.'s, pictures, etc. as
attachments.  Very few are actually word documents.

> PS: Why don't you save the documents in the first place? They need less
> space when saved due to the encoding.

I would rather save the emails in some cases as they are easier to search
and find.  It seems nicer for some things to be all together with the
original message.

Cheers,
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:12:27 -0700
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Steve,

> Nope, GP filters based on the message header and doesn't download the
> entire message unless it's supposed to.  GP also supports a 'headers-only'
> mode where it'll index the messages and you can pick and choose which to
> download, which to skip over, and which to delete on your next connection.

Ok, but it _does_ download all the headers to decide which to keep which to
kill.... No advantage vs. Post/LX.

> Filters work in either headers-only or normal mode.  In headers-only, you
> can use the filters to instantly download or delete certain messages,
> while the remainder are just indexed for retrieval later if you choose.
> In normal mode, you can use filters to skip over or delete certain
> messages, while the remainder are downloaded.

Filters work in Post/LX in headers only or in full message download as well...

Right, GP has an advantage here in that it downloads a header decides it is
not to be kept and kills it right then and there on the server. In Post/LX
that would be a two run process. Of course, if you change your mind, Post/LX
will still let you get that message, but it'll be gone when using GP, since GP
killed it... This may be an advantage or not, depending :-) ...

> In reality, I don't think Avi and myself are competing that much - we

I think we just enjoy razzing each other a bit. In truth, I think there is
plenty of room for both products. The discussion we engage in is very
educational, I believe to help people decide the finer points, too.

> both have good products with slightly different markets.  If you need

Agree, GP is a very good product!

> newsgroups and web browsing, GP would not make sense for you and WWW/LX
> would be an excellent choice.  If you only need email and want to conserve
> your disk space, WWW/LX would be an overkill for you.  In the real world,

At one point I calculated it'll take about 150K to just have email (need
WWW.EXE, POST.EXE, their respective .CFG files and a few more K for templates
etc. I believe GP requires still less storage.

> I know for a fact that GP has gotten LX's out of desk drawers - I like to

EXCELLENT!!!! Terrific service to the whole community. I know that GP made
people buy WWW/LX Plus and now they use BOTH, depending on the situation.
WWW/LX Plus did some amazing things to the market in Japan since last year!
Did you notice that the past year brought many more Japanese contributions
than the prior years? So much for a "dead machine" :) ...

> think that those people will be so impressed with their "gee, I didn't
> realize it was still so useful!" LX that they will end up buying a new
> unit from Thaddeus and eventually get WWW/LX for it too.  A win for the
> entire community..

YES!!!! This dead, obsolete, incapable, slow machine has THREE email products
SPECIFICALLY written for it, and several more adaptations of Internet Comms
(Rod? Chime in, will ya?)

> Of course, we do like to get that little plug in there for our own product
> from time to time... :-)

It should be so - you did a good thing with GP! Helped EVERYONE. And I mean
this completely sincerely.

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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> I'm glad that both Avi and Steve have products in this market, they both

And don't forget LXTCP, NetTamer, Pegasus, and ?? Did I forget anything?

> have features we'd all expect.  But let's not have a shooting match.  We
> (the customer) will decide which is right for our work habits, $$$ and
> configuration.  All you (the authors) need to do is write software, and if
> *no-one* buys/appreciates it worry.  Please don't worry if *some* of us
> choose someone else's software.  We may just be different.

Nah, ... this is actually good for everyone. Unless you see the finer points
in both products in a comparison like we are doing now, it is harder to
evaluate... I have never shied away from critique and comparisons in public. I
think it is extremely useful. It is definitely not a shooting match, well I do
not intend it and I am sure Steve does not either... The more you know, the
vetter for both companies and for all the customers, so no one suffers from
that...

  Avi M. D&A

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Longden,

> The gauntlet's been thrown (a friendly one, of course).

Yes, agreed. I saw it as a very friendly thing... I perceived it as a good
opportunity to expose technical details of both products, and the mutual
plugs don't harm either :) ...

  Avi M. D&A

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> Actually, it looks at the headers and it happens very quickly!

So the difference is that Post/LX also looks at the headers and stores them on
the palmtop. In both cases, the headers are downloaded. Where is the
advantage? or is there? :)

  Avi M. D&A

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David,

> > Thanks for the plug....er, I mean feedback Steve.
> > The gauntlet's been thrown (a friendly one, of course).
>
> As far as I can tell, not only has the gauntlet been thrown, but the duel
> has already been fought.  Or maybe it's still going on.  <g>

As long as you make the "duel" and "fighting" as harmless and good natured
jostle and an opportinuty to provide lots of education and comparisons and
information, I think too it is being "fought". If it ever went to another
interpretation, I quit! :-)
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> implemented a seriously cool feature in Goin' Postal. It's the ability to
> receive a mailing list digest and exploding it on the palmtop so you can
> reply to each individual message. I just got to use this feature for the

Nice feature!!! I want one! :) ...

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:39:37 +0000
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1999-04-22-15:46:00 Claude_Holle:
> What is batset?

Batset is a teensy end-and-remain-ignorant, I'm pretty sure it's available
from S.U.P.E.R., lets you control how long the LX's builtin battery charger
remains on "high-current". The LX has two charge rates; by default I think it
runs 6 hours of high-current charging before falling off to trickle. That's
cool if your batteries are new, or dead, or otherwise deeply discharged, but
when they're nearly full, the high-current charge can over-heat them. Trickle
charging doesn't.

> I would like to get off the re-usable train, but am scared
> after scary experiences with NiCads. Are NiMH's that much better?

Highly recommended. People have had their brains engraved with the lore that
"NiCds have memory effect", it's actually branded, you can see it deeply
seared into the brain folds. They cannot hear or learn anything else. So
changing to NiMHs is wildly comforting since people haven't been convinced
that NiMhs have memory effect, and can hear you when you say they don't:-).

Seriously, though, NiMHs are available in higher capacity (at least from Radio
Shack) than NiCds. Plus they're maybe a bit lighter-weight. May even tolerate
more charge/discharge cycles, though I ran NiCds or years, and run NiMH's for
years, keeping 'em always topped up, and expecting many hours of run-time and
weeks of sleep time whenever I step away from my charger.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 02:32:26 +0800
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Hi there,

I think its just a novelty to install the TBLX, it just look cool but I
guess after awhile I'll remove it.

Anyway, here's a short intro of myself :

I work in Hewlett Packard in Singapore but not in the engineering site and I
shall raise the issue of why HP won't wanna built a better 200LX to a friend
who works in some PDA dept, maybe somewhere next week. Hope he has something
interesting to say......

Ciao

Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 23 April, 1999 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: TaskBar


>To TBLX users,
>
> what function(s) does TBLX give you that makes it worthwhile to install
and
>use?
>
>At the risk of sounding somewhat jaded, I can close an app already by
hilighting
>the icon in AppMgr and pressing F6.
>
>- Longden
>
>
>
>
>
>Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET> on 04/22/99 10:41:57 AM
>
>Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
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>      to Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
>
>To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)
>
>Subject:  Re: TaskBar
>
>
>
>
>
>TBLX is the program that I use to dream about, even tried to convince
>a few to create such a program awhile back and it true good things do come
>to those who wait & dream. (:-)
>
>Like I said earlier this year 1999 is going to be a great year. Just
>look at all of the new stuff that we've encouterd already and its
>only April. (:-)
>
>Tip: To close an open task from the TaskBar tab to it and press the DEL
key.
>
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Thanks to both (DASoft and Steve) for their very informative comments on your
filtering of messages.

Your restraint from bashing each other has been commendable and hopefully I can
begin making a decision soon to move away from NetTamer which has no built-in
filtering (you have to buy a shareware add-on...and that filters after the
download).

- Longden  (who drives a Toyota with 297k miles on it <g>)





Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM> on 04/22/99 10:58:46 AM

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I hope the "overkill" part wasn't taken as a bash on WWW/LX.  It was
fully intended to be a "use the tool sized for the job" comment.  I really
try hard to avoid critisizing WWW/LX as I have alot of respect for it.
I've only used HV.EXE, but can see Andreas has gotten alot out of the
little LX.  If WWW/LX were the product it is today, at it's current price,
I may never have begun coding Goin' Postal.

And I appologize to all you Ford owners with my "Ford vs. Chevy" comment.
You have enough to worry about with your Ford without me picking on you..

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:25:12 +0100
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Steven Lawson wrote:
> > And when it is "supposed" to, it needs to download all headers *again*,
> > which often makes up the biggest part of a message.
>
> That depends on what kind of messages you get.  If you get alot of
> attachments, or messages from Windoze s/w (with all the 'HTML copy' and
> 'card' crap) the header becomes less of an issue.

How many attachments do you get with this list, for example? About 50%
of the stuff to download for this list is headers. And these headers
are downloaded twice when using that mode of GP.


> Not being able to read the message w/o the header is a limitation of the
> POP protocol.

Exactly!

> It's your choice in GP.  You can always skip the
> header-only read by leaving GP in normal mode, and setting a maximum
> message size to avoid large attachment downloads.

Perfectly true. I just objected to the illusion that online time is
reduced by a feature that actually causes to download all headers twice
and thus in fact increases online time. It may be a *convenient* feature,
but it does not reduce online time as  some people seem to think.

> I have never ran WWW/LX, so I'm certainly not going to badmouth the way
> you chose to make it behave.

I have to admit I never tried GP. But it seems that lots of stuff is
done similarly in both programs. Maybe this is the reason why both
programs seem to have lots of happy users.

> > The current version of WWW.EXE is 48k and POST/LX 88k, together with
> > the configuration files, this sums up to about 140k (plus of course the
> > composed and downloaded messages). How much disk space does GP need to
> > make you say WWW/LX for email only is an overkill?
>
> GP V2 took up 114k, and V3beta is sitting in <135k.  This is complete, no
> stripping away parts of it like the configuration code.  You can reduce
> this another 5k if you need to.

So it seems GP needs about 5-10k less disk space than WWW/LX with
POST/LX. Not that much of a difference IMO.

> Lets not involve the list further on why each of us thinks the other did
> it 'wrong'.

I was not trying to say you did something wrong. It just drove me nuts
to listen to people that keep on telling me GP is reducing online time
by downloading the headers twice instead of once and I wanted to have
that point clear. And the other point that I wanted to have resolved:
it is said that GP uses less disk space than POST/LX. And we found out
that this is true by about 10%. Hmmm. Thinking about it again, isn't
also a packet driver needed to run GP or is the 135k really including
everything? My numbers for POST/LX were including everything you need
to have on the palmtop to do email.

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Steven Lawson wrote:
> Since WWW/LX is not using the TOP
> command to get the header, it has no way of *not* reading a message once
> it starts.

Actually, WWW/LX *does* use the TOP command when downloading the
message headers only.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:16:59 GMT
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Hi Tony,

> Daniel, how did you set up POST/LX to work this way? I only *know* the
> way I have it which is it automatically hangs up the ISP connection
> when it has downloaded all mail, and stays in POST/LX, which seems
> precisely the opposite to what you describe.

It doesn't hang up after downloading because of a setting in setup
(a checkbox 'hang up after online' or so).

I don't want to let shut down the connection automatically.
Please see my mail to list+andreas garzotto regarding this.

GTX
daniel

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Hi,

What is a Furby???

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:16:55 GMT
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Hi Andreas,

> > It would be great if Post/LX would do a beep
> > after downloading all email
>
> It is a tiny thing for you too. Add a line such as
>
> PostOnline=beep.bat
>
> to the SYSTEM section of POST.CFG (or whatever you want instead of
> "beep.bat". That way, POST/LX will execute the specified program upon
> return from an online run.

Thanks, that's good! Connection isn't closed then?

>
> > And when I hear the beep I could come back and
> > shut down the connection to my ISP.
>
> Simply check the "hangup" box in SETUP.EXE and POST/LX will shut down
> the connection automatically.

No, that's not a solution for me. I want to shut down the connecttion
manually, because after downloading I maybe want to reply immediately
to an email, switch to HV, Telnet, FTP.... without closing the connection.

>
> > And it would be good if there was a possibility to
> > let the modem hang up without quitting Post/LX.
>
> See above.

See above. ;-) (replying immediately...)
I mean: the possibility to _manually_ let the modem hang up
with a menu item 'Disconnect WWW/LX', for example.


>
> You might want to have a look at the online help of POST/LX.

I had! (Right, Avi??? ;-) )


GTX
daniel

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Hi,

Avi, Andreas??
This would be great in POST/LX, too. I think that downloading
a digest of HPLX-L would take much less time than downloading
each single message.

How about such a feature in Post/LX?

GTX
daniel

> As a user of both WWW/LX and Goin' Postal, I can honestly say that Steve has
> implemented a seriously cool feature in Goin' Postal. It's the ability to
> receive a mailing list digest and exploding it on the palmtop so you can
> reply to each individual message. I just got to use this feature for the
> first time on a extremely high volume mailing list to which I subscribe (No,
> David it's not a porno list <g> ) and I am extremely impressed with this
> feature!


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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:08:19 -0400
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Subject:
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            Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:26:55 -0400
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            a123456@bitstream.net
 References:
            1

4.25% of what?

John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> Just wanted to let you know how its going.
>
> 4.25% response
>
> Overwhelming in favour of an upgrade.
> 2 maybes 0 negatives
>

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Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

> I think that I can claim without a doubt
> that Mack is the first person to check email and news while travelling in
> excess of 100 miles an hour, down the interstate on a Code 3 call in a
> police car. It was definately cool!

Cool! is an understatement.  I have typed and transmitted (via
cel phone) Email messages while driving on the New York State
Thruway, but I was not quite doing 100 miles per hour - I was
doing the speed limit.

Wireless communications via cel phone and the palmtop is quite
an amazing thing.  I recently got a PCMCIA modem to work with
my palmtop and cel phone.  Great stuff.

Thanks for posting this message.  Would you mind if I
forwarded it to the HP Handhelds forum on CompuServe for those
palmtopers to enjoy?


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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:00:14 +0200
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Hej

After a online with posl/lx it's make a file named
filename.xov in my root directory.

For what use?

Thank you,

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:57:33 -0400
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Subject:      Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report: success, on track, long posting!

    Hello all!
                     Here are the headlines:

-Today we tested Palmtop Circuit on the LX of <skiboy@elender.hu>,
 at the DesignSoft Ltd. office. The machine was 200LX single-speed,
 with 8MB CF in PCMCIA adapter. PACI went onto the CF card.
 I could verify, that the sources codes for Palmtop Circuit (it was
 written in Borland Pascal) still exist, which is relieving.

-The program works, both the demo slide-show and the actual circuit
 analyzer ran on the 200LX fine. Setup was a bit involving, as we
 had the palmtop and the serial cable, but not the HP Connectivity
 Pack; which is required for automatic installation. However, the
 manual way of installation also worked. It ran on desktop fine, too.
 Skiboy took a few shots of the LX screen running PACI with a digicam;
 even though lighting conditions were poor, it should be readable.
 He will post the JPEGs to SUPER maintainers.

                 *******************************

-Software maker, DesignSoft Ltd. (Budapest, Hungary) now sells PACI:
 The program package consists of these three items:
 1pc floppy disk (3,5" 1,44MB) containing Palmtop Circuit
 1pc Users' Manual (100 pages A/5 form factor) and the Licence Paper.

-It costs 80USD (eighty $), which includes 1-week, air mail shipping
 of the above package to your address anywhere on planet Earth.

-A special offer containing Palmtop Circuit AND Tina_for_DOSv.2.67
 is available at 149USD (hundred and forty-nine $); 1-week, air-mail.
 Wish to know, what Tina_for_DOS is: I'll send my second posting to
  HPLX-L within 2hours after posting this message, stay tuned.

-The only currently available method of paying is faxing of your:
 Name, Postal Address, Credit card No., Credit card expirary date;
 Which package you buy, How many licences you buy, Total amount (USD).
 Also include a fax number or e-mail address, where you can receive a
 message from DesignSoft, verifying your order.
 Fax it to +36-1-332-7777 (Where 36 is the predial to call Hungary).
     Send your fax after 26th April 1999, 0900GMT, not before!

 The very cautious should look at <www.designsoftware.com> to verify,
 that the above phone number really and truly belongs to DesignSoft

-Licence lets you install Palmtop Circuit on a maximum of 2 computers:
 one palmtop (HP95/100/200/700LX/1000CX or PoquetPC, Sharp3100, etc.)
 AND one desktop (described as having physically fixed installation).

-Palmtop Circuit's function is to let user design and analyze analog
 electric circuits and allows for exporting results in HPGL form.
 The program allows for circuits with a maximum no. of nodes >= 100.
 Program supports transient, AC, DC, symbolic analysis and optimize.
 Analysis of digital circuits is not available/possible.

 Questions welcome. Disclaimer: The above ordering info are official
 DesingSoft statements. Anything enclosed in square brackets are my
 opinions only. I will answer further questions according to my best
 knowledge, which may not be same as the opinion of DesignSoft Ltd.
 I have no business relation with DesignSoft. I understand that the
 last sentence would be hard to prove, but please believe it!

                    Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

 Ps: The following is what I say, not by DesingSoft. I would like to
 make clear, how the (IMO pretty high) price of 80USD was reached. I
 called them and went back there the 4th time a month ago. They said,
 I should not ask about Palmtop Circuit over and over, because they
 will not even touch the archives looking for it, if they cannot make
 sure that they get at least USD 1,000 this time. They must spend at
 least 30 manhours digging it up, testing and selling; and their
 employees could work on more profitable Windows software instead.

 OK, I knew from previous HPLX-L discussions that over 20 people
 expressed interest in Palmtop Circuit, so I thought 12+ would buy. I
 said one dozen licences sure can be sold. They did the math and said
 90$; I said that's not fair rounding; OK, they said 80$. That's it.

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Maybe you could put up a web page and share all your 'Tips and Tricks'
that you discover for TBLX?

Steve

        -----Original Message-----
        <snip>

        Tip: To close an open task from the TaskBar tab to it and press
the DEL key.

        Regards,

        Qman...

        "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, A Meshar wrote:

> As long as you make the "duel" and "fighting" as harmless and good natured
> jostle and an opportinuty to provide lots of education and comparisons and
> information, I think too it is being "fought". If it ever went to another
> interpretation, I quit! :-)

This is scary.... I think we are all having a debate in a rational,
mature manner :) Why couldn't those kids in Colorado do that?!?

73 Jeff <---- using PINE on his 200LX as to avoid the GP & WWW/LX debate :)

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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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> How about such a feature in Post/LX?

There really is this sort of feature in POST/LX already (sort of). If you use
lxdr to read your digests, you can hit a single key while reading the digest
and the individual message will show up in your main POST/LX mailbox. lxdr has
to be lausnched from within POST/LX, of course.

http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl/lxdr099.zip?dbname=lxdr099.zip&URL=http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/lxdr099.zip

Note that this is a special commercial version of lxdr that Rick Kozak will
supply...
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP

Andy writes:
> Date sent:              Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:36:51 -0700
> Send reply to:          HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-
> L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
>         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
> From:                   David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
> Subject:                Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed
> HP
> To:                     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>
> > On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:
> >
> > > What's wrong with typing on the 200LX? I can type with great speed on
> > > it. It not even uncomfortable. You just make shorter strokes. The only
> > > thing is I wish I could connect a larger screen. It would be a lot
> > > easier to use at a desk.
> >
> > Nothing's wrong with it.  I also type with great speed on it.  (Granted,
> > with SmartCaps turned on.)  And the 200LX keyboard is the best palmtop
> > keyboard I've ever used.  I'm just saying that if I could type as fast as
> > I can on the 200LX, on the 320LX, it would be a lot more useful.  But it's
> > nowhere close.  And it's not even the hardware's fault.  The response to
> > keystrokes is just so terrible that it's more like <type a word> <wait two
> > seconds> <type another word> <wait a second> <type another word> <wait
> > three seconds>...
> >
>
> And you said this machine was 40 Mhz.
>
> Thinking about this then, even if the machine was 80 Mhz, it would
> still lag?  Seems like.  Instead, you'd be waiting 1 second.
>
> If it was a noticeable lag on a 40 Mhz machine, it would still be
> noticeable at 80 Mhz.
>
> Ah well, those are hopeless then.  Everything produced in 1997-98
> was probably below 100 Mhz.

Considering he's using a word processor that's REALLY bad. He should be working
about 50 times as fast! He's using a 32 bit 40 mHz microprocessor with a
32 bit OS. I think they use a 32 bit buss too. That is FAST! You don't NEED
100mHz for that. All you need is a
8 bit 4 mHz system for a properly designed word processing system. You don't
NEED much ram you don't need much of anything. All he was doing was TYPING!
That shows one hell of a defect in the design. If I take my word processor
off my LX, which has a 16 mHz 16 bit 186, where it zooms and put it on a PC
110 where it has a 40 mHz, 32 bit 486 microprocessor with a 16 bit buss
it zooms faster not slower. And that doesn't even have a coprocessor!

John

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              Edward Moy <edwardmoy@EMAIL.COM>
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Thanks for the sample file.  I couldn't find the .exe to .exm program on SUPER
though.  Do you know the name of it?

Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

<snip>

> For your non-exm programs there is a
> program on the SUPER Site that will corvert .exe, .com, .bat to .exm
> its  what I used to get POST/LX and a few others to run from the taskBar.

<snip>

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:29:37 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIONEER-STANDARD.COM>
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Please have a look at the information on the web page listed below.  You
will find that your use of LLRA on the palmtop to another PC is covered by
license.  The instructions can help you get started.

http://web.raex.com/~striegel/HPLX/LLRA.TXT

        Alan

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:42:44 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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> I have to admit I never tried GP. But it seems that lots of stuff is
> done similarly in both programs. Maybe this is the reason why both
> programs seem to have lots of happy users.

I too was quite surprised to hear some of the similarity between them.
It's obvious that you've had to experience some of the same shortcomings
with other mailers as I did!  When I wrote GP, I had alot of things that I
wanted to improve after attempting to deal with traveling and multiple
email accounts using a couple different Windoze mailers.

> I was not trying to say you did something wrong. It just drove me nuts
> to listen to people that keep on telling me GP is reducing online time
> by downloading the headers twice instead of once and I wanted to have
> that point clear.

Point taken, and I am sorry for taking it so personally.

> also a packet driver needed to run GP or is the 135k really including
> everything? My numbers for POST/LX were including everything you need
> to have on the palmtop to do email.

Yes, 135k includes the packet driver.  The jump to 135k just occurred in
the beta of V3.  V2 was 114k including packet driver.  I could probably
get V2 down closer to 100k if I had to now, but I don't want to have
multiple active versions out there.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:41:59 -0500
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Edward Moy wrote:

> Thanks for the sample file.  I couldn't find the .exe to .exm program on SUPER
> though.  Do you know the name of it?

Me either, but I could swear I had seen it there before now. I just never
had the need to use it. Filename anyone?

73 Jeff

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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Jeff wrote:

> Me either, but I could swear I had seen it there before now. I just
> never had the need to use it. Filename anyone?

EXMBATCH, perhaps?

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:49:29 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> This would be great in POST/LX, too. I think that downloading
> a digest of HPLX-L would take much less time than downloading
> each single message.
>
> How about such a feature in Post/LX?

There is a nice digest reader that integrates well with POST/LX. You can
find out more about it at ..... I cannot find the URL. A Web search for
"POST/LX" and "digest" should reveal it.

Another way to reduce size is to get the messages from news.hplx.net.
There, most unnneeded headers are removed before they are posted in the
group. The delay to the "real" list seems to be just a few seconds and
you can get the messages when *you* want and not when they are posted.
Quite handy IMO.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:49:26 +0100
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> I mean: the possibility to _manually_ let the modem hang up
> with a menu item 'Disconnect WWW/LX', for example.

You get that menu item by adding

Disconnect WWW/LX=DIS.COM

to the External section of POST.CFG. DIS.COM is a 7 byte utility that
you can find at www.dasoft.com... well I hope nobody minds a 7 byte
binary attached to this message...

BTW, why don't you do ftp, HV, etc stuff and *then* as a last action do
the online run with POST/LX? I always do it that way. So I don't need a
beep to remind me that POST/LX is now done and I can do the other
stuff. POST/LX simply hangs up when all stuff is done.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:20:02 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:46:19 -0700, Quinton Jones Jr <qman@earthlink.net> =
wrote:

>
> Here is a copy of my setup for your review, maybe that'll get you
> start, also its best to have Moreexm installed so you can see/find the
> keycodes for your installed .exm.

I should have said KeyM instead of Moreexm , but both are neeed anyway.
(:-)




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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: Request (dream?: SmartCaps standalone

> On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Bill Childers wrote:
> I sure am.  IDEALLY, I'd like a TSR that makes keystrokes in WP51 behave
> more like a normal word processor.  i.e., shift+arrows highlights, Fn-Copy
> copies, Fn-Date stamps the date, etc.  As it is, I can't even set up Alt-F
> to select the file menu, because when BuddyDOS is loaded it kills the
> {Menu Select} macro code.

Sounds like you want to run d:\bin\key200.com, this lets you define specific
keys to be other key combinations


======================
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davidb@cimatron.co.il
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:51:17 -0400
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              Edward Moy <edwardmoy@EMAIL.COM>
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Hi my name is Ed and I'm grep-challenged.  :-)

But seriously, the documentation for X-Finder mentions a batch
file you can run to automate _.xfn creation for describing text
files.

I couldn't find YGREP so I attempted to run the batch with both
GREP and XGREP.  Neither worked and I'm figuring that it's
because YGREP options are not compatible with other GREPs.  As
seen in the user's guide :

-TITLE.bat-
|YGREP -o -U  *.* >$$$.dat
|SED -e "s/:/ /g" <$$$.dat >_.xfn
|del $$$.dat

How do I get this batch file to work with GREP or XGREP, or does
someone have YGREP?  I've been making the _.xfn file the hard
way with a <gasp> Win95 app so I'd appreciate being able to run
this batch on my lx.

TIA
Ed

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:57:28 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Edward J. Morgan wrote:
> PostOnline=beep.bat
>
> My beep.bat is:
>
> cd C:\sound
> playex revel.snd

Are you sure beep.bat is on the path? Does it work when you start it
manually?

Andreas

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:11:27 GMT
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From:         David Hart <hart@CATHOLIC.ORG>
Subject:      (none)

I want to redefine an third-party exm program to the blue key which
is used for the phone database. How do I do this? I used to
remember how to do this but is has been so long since I wanted to
do something like this. I think it has some to do with the
apname.lst file. Sorry for asking such a newbie-type question but I
just have forgotten how to do this.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:10:39 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Look in D:\BIN\KEY200.TXT

The built-in key200 program can do what you want and the text shows an example
of remapping the Memo key to do NoteTaker instead.  Your case will be a bit more
complicated, but I think the text can show you the way.

- Longden





David Hart <hart@CATHOLIC.ORG> on 04/22/99 06:11:27 AM

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I want to redefine an third-party exm program to the blue key which
is used for the phone database. How do I do this? I used to
remember how to do this but is has been so long since I wanted to
do something like this. I think it has some to do with the
apname.lst file. Sorry for asking such a newbie-type question but I
just have forgotten how to do this.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:12:54 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:47:58 -0700, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> =
wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Jeff wrote:
>
> > Me either, but I could swear I had seen it there before now. I just
> > never had the need to use it. Filename anyone?
>
> EXMBATCH, perhaps?

Yea! Thats it. It by Rod Whitby.


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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:17:33 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> Yea! Thats it. It by Rod Whitby.

Available at http://exmbatch.hplx.net.  <g>

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:16:19 +0000
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In the Thaddeus catalog(ue), they advertise a small torch which clips on =
the side of the HP screen. It has a goose-neck arm which wraps around the =
body of the torch when not in use.

Q. Does anybody know of a source for this torch in the UK?
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I've been using the HP connectivity pack for quite a few years now. Once =
every week, I'd back up my C drive to a directory on my PC. I'd also =
point the CPACK200 software at that directory so that I could read my =
agenda or phonebook etc. from the PC if I needed a larger screen or =
faster speed etc.

Since I got my CF card, backups take ages, and I was playing with a way =
to use PKZIP to backup only files that had changed, then restore those to =
my PC.

About a month ago I discovered a neat "one way synchronisation" that =
exists within the connectivity pack. I apologise if everyone knows this =
already, but surely I can't be the only one to have missed this feature?

With the filer showing the root of your HP's C or A drive, use File->Backu=
p from the filer app on the PC. Select 'All directories and files' and =
check the boxes for 'Modified files only' and 'Overwrite existing files'. =
It even remembers the path on the PC where you last backed up to!

This will back up only the files that have changed since the last backup. =
Great for skipping .EXE files etc. If you point your PC's agenda or =
phonebook prog to the backup directory, you can always view a fairly =
up-to-date file. The "synchronisation-of-sorts" only works one way.

I guess you could modify files on the PC and "backup" it back to the HP =
if you reset all the archive attributes on the PC's directory after the =
HP to PC backup. However, if I modify a file on the PC, I just copy it =
back afterwards.

Hope this helps someone else.
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:19:54 -0400
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Dear fellow palmtop users:

I am sorry to take up a little bandwidth here, but this is for
my daughter's fourth grade class project.  So please DON'T
REPLY TO THIS LIST - send all replys to me privately at
<stanleyd@carroll.com>.  Thanks.

My daughter's fourth grade class at school is doing a "Global
Greetings Project" in which the students collect postcards sent
to them from all over the United States and the world.  For
each postcard they receive, they put a marker on a large wall
map of the USA or the world to show where the postcard came
from.

We would appreciate your help with this class project.  If you
could, please send a postcard from where you live, or from
anywhere you happen to visit that is far away from New Jersey.
 They would like to collect as many postcards from the
different United States and other countries around the world
as possible before the end of the school year in June.

They have already been mailed postcards from the following
states: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut,
Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana,
Maine, Massachusetts, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, Ohio,
Pennsylvania, Virginia.

And from the following countries: Bahamas, Canada, Cayman
Islands BWI, Costa Rica, England, Germany, Hong Kong, Ireland,
Italy, Japan, Korea, Poland, Portland, Puerto Rico, Spain, St.
Martin, Switzerland, Turkey.

I don't want to post the postal mailing address on the list,
so send an Email to me at <stanleyd@carroll.com> (NOT A REPLY
TO THE LIST) and I will tell you the address of her
classroom.

Thanks, in advance, for any and all help we get with this
project.  And I know international postcards are more expensive
than those within the USA, so a special thanks to those
international people who help us with this.


Stan

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:26:27 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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> I want to redefine an third-party exm program to the blue key which
> is used for the phone database. How do I do this? I used to
> remember how to do this but is has been so long since I wanted to
> do something like this. I think it has some to do with the
> apname.lst file. Sorry for asking such a newbie-type question but I
> just have forgotten how to do this.
>
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>




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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:26:30 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:11:27 GMT, David Hart <hart@CATHOLIC.ORG> wrote:

> I want to redefine an third-party exm program to the blue key which
> is used for the phone database. How do I do this? I used to
> remember how to do this but is has been so long since I wanted to
> do something like this. I think it has some to do with the
> apname.lst file. Sorry for asking such a newbie-type question but I
> just have forgotten how to do this.

I use ExKey, I think its available on the SUPER Site. Its easy to use
once you install it. Just add the below line to your autoexec.bat:
c:\exkey -fc:\_dat\exkey.ini

All of the re-mapping in done in the exkey.ini file that you create.

example:

{ALT+MENU}=3D{ALT+F9}
{FILER}=3D{ALT+F8}{CTRL}
{MORE}=3D{ALT+F4}{CTRL}


after you create your exkey.ini and make your changes just re-boot and
your done.

Regards,

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:53:46 -0400
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Hi All:

     I'd like to share a good source I just found for non-rechargeable
AA's.

Bulb Direct in Pittsford NY
(800)772-5267

Duracell Ultra Alkalines, AA or AAA @ $0.70 ea bulk(4/bx)

Energizer L91-2 Li AAs: $4.71 a pair

2 Day shipping/handling/insurance is $4.95 within the US "48"

Actually they say shipping is FREE, it is the handling & insurance that
costs $4.95 ;-)

note: I see from the "1800BATTERIES" catalog, they want $5.00 for a 4
pak of the Duracell ULTRAs, and $8.00 for the Energizer Li (add $ 2.50
handling charge & $8.75 for 2-day ship)

I have no connection with this company, just a happy customer.

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:01:42 -0400
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              Tamas Feher <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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Subject:      Problem release list, Palmtop Circuit update mix; Siemens SL10.

    Hello all,

 Apparently there was some problem releasing the list this time.

 I sent two posting up to this time:
 FIRST was about Palmtop Circuit testing and buy update;
 SECOND was about TINA for DOS v2.xx compared to Palmtop Circuit;
 THIRD should be a partial extract of the TINA manual, not yet sent.

 Strangely, the second posting got into the latest digest, while the
 first one couldn't as far as I can see. BTW, I got the usual caution
 messages about list not released yet for BOTH posting and yes, I got
 the caution message for post #1 before sending post#2.

 So, please wait for the tomorrow digest that has the first posting
 and read that carefully, to prevent confusion; because what I wrote
 in second posting implicitly requires reading the first one before.

 I think I can send the third posting Friday 2200GMT or Saturday.
 I am sorry for the confusion.

                    Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

 Ps: Have you looked at Siemens SL-10 dual 900/1800MHz band GSM phone?
     I heard this is the third phone to support standard IrDA comms
     after Nokia's entry and the Ericsson SH-888. It may be suitable
     for use with the HP200LX as a wireless modem, I hope.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:05:11 -0500
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Okay, I just downloaded EXMBatch and what is the simplest way to use it to
work with TaskBar? Also, can someone explain how to use KeyM to get the
codes that Task Bar wants?

73 Jeff
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:08:40 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:37:39 -0400 (EDT)

46m20s ago ...
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Edward Moy wrote:

>  I've been making the _.xfn file the hard way with a <gasp> Win95
> app so I'd appreciate being able to run this batch on my lx.

Egad!  Why use Windoze for this?  Just highlight the file you want to
give a long name to in X-Finder, hit the comma key, and a dialog box
pops up.  Type your name in and Enter - Voila! - you have an _.xfn
file.  You can do this for any number of files to add more titles to
the .xfn  It won't be automatic like the grep batch file, but you
don't need Windoze...

HTH

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:08:54 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: WTB: 200LX Motherboard

Andy writes:
> Date sent:              Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:05:06 -0400
> Send reply to:          RickRae@usa.net
> From:                   Rick Rae <RickRae@usa.net>
> Subject:                WTB: 200LX Motherboard
> To:                     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>
> > I have a 200LX that has "bit the dust" -- a friend who borrowed it and
> > didn't understand the HP way of things apparently inserted NiMH batteries
> > backwards and "fried" the power supply inverter.  I'm looking into having
>
> You can do that with this machine?  I thought all these kinds of
> machines would be unaffected by how batteries are inserted.

Putting batteries in anything is such a no-brainer. How could anyone mess
it up? Manufacturers make it so obvious how they go in. Do you think there's
a reason for that? Even in flashlights, which don't have polarity, it is
obvious how they go.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:22:17 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:12:58 -0400 (EDT)

07m20s ago ...
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Okay, I just downloaded EXMBatch and what is the simplest way to use it =
to
> work with TaskBar? Also, can someone explain how to use KeyM to get the
> codes that Task Bar wants?

Well, you need to make a copy of exmbatch.exm and rename it.  Then
patch the renamed file with debug as per the instructions.  After
that, use KeyM to view your presently installed PIMs and EXMs - pick
an unused key, and hit the F-key labeled ScanCd to show the keycode.
Use that keycode to add the file to MoreEXM, and reboot.  Then you can
add a line something like
        newapp=3D####   (where #### is the keycode) to tblx.dat

HTH

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:26:06 -0400
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              Edward Moy <edwardmoy@EMAIL.COM>
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I wish it was that easy.  Well, the secret is that I've been downloading
the New York Times and trying to use X-Finder to help me read it on the
lx.  I run Bruce Guthrie's htmstrip on the articles and then use a
Windoze program called TheRename to find the file first 30 characters of
each resultant text file.  I don't use TheRename to rename; it previews
what the file names will be and I am then able to save that list as a
text file.  I then do some minor editing and voila I have a usable _.xfn
for *200* articles.  But it would be _much_ faster if I could just
transfer all the articles to the lx and just run something like the
TITLE.bat mentioned in the X-Finder guide.

btw The I give the articles an extension of .nws and associate it with a
freeware program called btype (BigType - a sibling of BigEd).  The large
fonts make it much easier on my eyes.

Ed

Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:37:39 -0400 (EDT)
>
> 46m20s ago ...
> On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Edward Moy wrote:
>
> >  I've been making the _.xfn file the hard way with a <gasp> Win95
> > app so I'd appreciate being able to run this batch on my lx.
>
> Egad!  Why use Windoze for this?  Just highlight the file you want to
> give a long name to in X-Finder, hit the comma key, and a dialog box
> pops up.  Type your name in and Enter - Voila! - you have an _.xfn
> file.  You can do this for any number of files to add more titles to
> the .xfn  It won't be automatic like the grep batch file, but you
> don't need Windoze...
>
> HTH
>
> -Peniel
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:49:55 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:05:11 -0500, Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

> Okay, I just downloaded EXMBatch and what is the simplest way to use it =
to
> work with TaskBar? Also, can someone explain how to use KeyM to get the
> codes that Task Bar wants?

Ok 73 Jeff,

I'll give it a shot.

To configure ExmBatch to run a batch file called
"c:\postlx\www.bat", you would type the following:

    c:\postlx\debug exmbatch.exm
    e 3857 "c:\postxl\www..bat" 0
    w
    q


Note: prior to running the above command copy a copy of both exmbatch.exm =
and
debug.exe to your WWW/LX directory.

Note: Debug can be found is in your D:\DOS.

To see the key codes with KeyM just press Scancd (F8).

BTW: If you haven't already download the newest version of KeyM from the
same site that you got TaskBar.

Also confirming that you've already got Moreexm installed?

HTH

Regards,

Qman...

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:17:06 -0400
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Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:08:38 -0400 (EDT)

01h42m30s ago ...
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Edward Moy wrote:

> ... I am then able to save that list as a
> text file.  I then do some minor editing and voila I have a usable =
_.xfn
> for *200* articles.  But it would be _much_ faster if I could just
> transfer all the articles to the lx and just run something like the
> TITLE.bat mentioned in the X-Finder guide.

Ahh - I see your point.  Creating Extra Names for 200 files by hand
sure would be impractical.

Don't know much about grep syntax, but looking thru the xgrep doc file,
it looks like the commands would need to be a lot different from the
batch file in the XF docs.  If I find Ygrep, I'll let you know.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:23:19 -0700
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              Claude_Holle <claude_holle@SPEEDCHOICE.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Backlit 200LX
Comments: To: Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>

Is there some information on the care and feeding of rechargables using
batset? For example what are the best charge rate/ times for different types
of rechargables etc.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Backlit 200LX


> 1999-04-22-15:46:00 Claude_Holle:
> > What is batset?
>
> Batset is a teensy end-and-remain-ignorant, I'm pretty sure it's available
> from S.U.P.E.R., lets you control how long the LX's builtin battery
charger
> remains on "high-current". The LX has two charge rates; by default I think
it
> runs 6 hours of high-current charging before falling off to trickle.
That's
> cool if your batteries are new, or dead, or otherwise deeply discharged,
but
> when they're nearly full, the high-current charge can over-heat them.
Trickle
> charging doesn't.
>
> > I would like to get off the re-usable train, but am scared
> > after scary experiences with NiCads. Are NiMH's that much better?
>
> Highly recommended. People have had their brains engraved with the lore
that
> "NiCds have memory effect", it's actually branded, you can see it deeply
> seared into the brain folds. They cannot hear or learn anything else. So
> changing to NiMHs is wildly comforting since people haven't been convinced
> that NiMhs have memory effect, and can hear you when you say they
don't:-).
>
> Seriously, though, NiMHs are available in higher capacity (at least from
Radio
> Shack) than NiCds. Plus they're maybe a bit lighter-weight. May even
tolerate
> more charge/discharge cycles, though I ran NiCds or years, and run NiMH's
for
> years, keeping 'em always topped up, and expecting many hours of run-time
and
> weeks of sleep time whenever I step away from my charger.
>
> -Bennett
>
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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:09:25 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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Subject:      Re: TaskBar
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not if you are using moreexm (there is no icon).
it good to be able to see all the task running.
having menu and sub menu is great.

You can say to your girlfriend your are now running WIN95 on your LX.
:)
Alain
> At the risk of sounding somewhat jaded, I can close an app already by hilighting
> the icon in AppMgr and pressing F6.
>
> - Longden
>
>
>
>
>
> Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET> on 04/22/99 10:41:57 AM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
>       to Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)
>
> Subject:  Re: TaskBar
>
>
>
>
>
> TBLX is the program that I use to dream about, even tried to convince
> a few to create such a program awhile back and it true good things do come
> to those who wait & dream. (:-)
>
> Like I said earlier this year 1999 is going to be a great year. Just
> look at all of the new stuff that we've encouterd already and its
> only April. (:-)
>
> Tip: To close an open task from the TaskBar tab to it and press the DEL key.
>
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>


Al
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:11:22 -0500
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On 04-22 04:49pm CDT, the following was written:

> To configure ExmBatch to run a batch file called
> "c:\postlx\www.bat", you would type the following:
>
>     c:\postlx\debug exmbatch.exm
>     e 3857 "c:\postxl\www..bat" 0
>     w
>     q

Okay, I can do that, but the docs talk about Software Carousel and the 385x
numbers in the second line above and I don't have Software Carousel
installed. Is the above '3857' the correct number that I should use?

> Also confirming that you've already got Moreexm installed?

Yes, as I understand it, it will not allow the display of an icon, correct?

73 Jeff

FWIW... 73 means best wishes to we amateur radio operators (hams)

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:44:24 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP

>>   Why not just make the HP200LX a fully functional serially connected
>> node on your network, use a Station 100 base shell as docking station,
>> and then simply use "rcon" from your desktop computer? ;-)
>
>Or simpler yet, just use the desktop computer.

  If the ultimate purpose was not to enable more effective remote use of
a HP200LX or if the resulting data didn't ultimately need to be moved to
the HP200LX, then yes.  As long as one is near a stand alone desktop
computer, it would be much easier to simply use the stand alone desktop
and cut the HP200LX out of the loop, all together.

  However, if the ultimate purpose was to edit or input a sizable amount
of text into a document or file that was already stored and used on the
HP200LX, then a simple slide-in network connection to your nearby desktop
would offer the most efficient input method without resorting to sneaker
net (or the CF shuffle).

  I personally use "rcon" on my network to enable use of my desktop
keyboard for much faster and easier direct editing on my HP200LX while
I'm home. This comes in particularly handy when I'm developing rather
busy batch files at home for use later on my HP200LX while on the road.

  Cheers,

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, MIchigan

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:39:55 -0400
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              Edward Moy <edwardmoy@EMAIL.COM>
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After looking at Taskbar briefly I can see that it could possibly be an all-in-one for
those of us who are using programs like Tasklist, PocketLauncher and/or 200mnu.  Right
now Tasklist and Launcher work well together for me -- but I'd love to find out TBLX's
full capabilities.

And, of course there is the "gee whiz" factor!  ;-)

Alain wrote:

> not if you are using moreexm (there is no icon).
> it good to be able to see all the task running.
> having menu and sub menu is great.
>
> You can say to your girlfriend your are now running WIN95 on your LX.
> :)
> Alain
> > At the risk of sounding somewhat jaded, I can close an app already by hilighting
> > the icon in AppMgr and pressing F6.
> >
> > - Longden

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:51:55 -0700
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              Colin Thompson <burkec@GOLDSTATE.NET>
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In the past there have been requests for a shoulder harness that will
hold a HPLX.  One of my favorite knife makers has a solution.  JSP
Bladrigger's Associate Harness and EQ Bag carry a LX in comfort with
room to spare.  My EQ bag arrived today and after trying it on my
shoulder harness, I am hooked.  JSP stuff is not cheap but the quality
is beyond reproach.  http://www.bladerigger.com

Colin

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:01:16 -0400
Reply-To:     RickRae@usa.net
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From:         Rick Rae <RickRae@USA.NET>
Subject:      Re: WTB: 200LX Motherboard
Comments: To: avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET
In-Reply-To:  <199904221752.PAA25127@firma.thezone.net>

Well, you can definitely put 'em in wrong.  To paraphrase a friend's
comment from the days of 5 1/4" floppys, "There are four ways to insert
batteries in the 200LX, only one of which is particularly interesting."
(Trivia: there are also four ways to insert a 3.5" disk.  But there were
EIGHT ways to insert 5 1/4" and 8" floppies.)

As to zapping the machine, I can't *swear* that's what happened.  But it
was working when I loaned it to him, and it wasn't when he sheepishly and
sorrowfully handed it back to me.  And he says it quit right after he put
NiMHs in that he took out of his digital camera, because he didn't have any
other AAs and needed to finish some stuff "right then."

I remember reading a long time ago that you could fry an LX if you put in
certain kinds of batteries backwards.  I don't recall if it was lithiums or
NiMHs... but now I'm thinking the latter can do it.  As far as I know,
putting carbon-zinc, alkaline, or NiCads in backwards won't cause any
problem; according to what I remember reading, it was the higher current
availability of lithiums or NiMHs that caused the problem.

And that's the thing, I guess; when the LX series was designed, I don't
think these newer battery chemistries weren't widely available.  HP
probably designed the machines to be safe with the batteries of the day.
"It's impossible to plan for the unexpected, by definition."

Rick,
who is still hoping someone has a 200LX motherboard to sell.

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On 4/22/99, at 3:25 PM, Andy wrote:

>Date sent:              Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:05:06 -0400
>Send reply to:          RickRae@usa.net
>From:                   Rick Rae <RickRae@usa.net>
>Subject:                WTB: 200LX Motherboard
>To:                     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>
>> I have a 200LX that has "bit the dust" -- a friend who borrowed it and
>> didn't understand the HP way of things apparently inserted NiMH
batteries
>> backwards and "fried" the power supply inverter.  I'm looking into
having
>
>You can do that with this machine?  I thought all these kinds of
>machines would be unaffected by how batteries are inserted.
>
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:08:49 +0000
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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From:         "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
Subject:      VI Editor Clones
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <199904220212.VAA04619x@scott.net>
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Can you provide the names of the three vi clone editors for HPLX DOS?

==============================================
At 08:37 PM 4/21/99 -0500, you wrote:
>On 04-21 06:21pm CDT, the following was written:
>
>> Well, uh. Qedit works great.  Personally, I use one of the three vi
>> clones for all my HTML editing, but have on occassion used Qedit.
>> YMMV.
>
>While we are speaking of vi editors, can anyone give me a brief tutorial of
>it. I generally use pico, but I'm having to learn vi to work with the little
>Minix set up on the LX..... unless I could install pico?!?
>
>73 Jeff
>
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:20:38 +0000
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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From:         "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
Subject:      Re: LotusWorks? (Was RE: Wanted: Alphaworks)
Mime-Version: 1.0
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I can supply Lotus Works (disks and docs) for much cheaper than $95.

Make an offer.

==========================================
>From: Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
>Subject:      Re: LotusWorks? (Was RE: Wanted: Alphaworks)
>Comments: To: Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>
>A computer business associate has a copy of Lotus Works shrink wrapped for
>$95.
>
>Bob Meyer
>bmeyer@union-tel.com
>Elk Mountain WY
>
>Terry Owen wrote:
>
>> Following this lead, I found that AlphaWorks became LotusWorks and is
>> now discontinued according to the Lotus website.  Anyone have a copy of
>> LotusWorks they want to unload?
>>
>> Terry
>> towen@quintrex.com
>> owen6511@earthlink.net
>>
>> p.s. I would have never thought of looking at dogpile.com
>>
>> > ----------
>> > From:         Russell HemerySMTP:rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU
>> > Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List; Russell Hemery
>> > Sent:         Wednesday, April 14, 1999 12:09 PM
>> > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>> > Subject:      Re: Wanted: Alphaworks
>> >
>> > I searched using www.dogpile.com using info you tendered. Electric
>> > Software
>> > Alphaworks.
>> >
>> > Try http://www.glowcode.com/summary.htm
>> >
>> > It seems they may be the people mentioned.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Russell
>> > Sleepless in Ozland (3am)
>> >
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:25:29 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Does anyone know if there is a line which can be added to or changed in the
wattcp.cfg file that will not cause '!' to be put in front of groups in the
incoming.jn file when lxnntp encounters an error during an online run?

73 Jeff
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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:41:17 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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Has anyone gotten TaskBar to display something under the Programs menu
without having it all garbled?  If so, how?  I'm running TB with MoreEXM
and SMMX... TB comes up allright, and I can do the basic stuff (like
"shutdown the LX) but everytime I go to display Programs, it's weird.

HELP!

Thanks,
Bill

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:01:03 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:49:12 -0400 (EDT)

07m54s ago ...
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Bill Childers wrote:

> Has anyone gotten TaskBar to display something under the Programs menu
> without having it all garbled?  If so, how?  I'm running TB with =
MoreEXM
> and SMMX... TB comes up allright, and I can do the basic stuff (like
> "shutdown the LX) but everytime I go to display Programs, it's weird.

Hmmm - do you have tblx.dat in c:\_dat?  You should also have the
program section of the .dat file listing your .EXMs with an =3D sign
and the hex code for the hotkey.  Check out QMan's post earlier today
where he had his tblx.dat file.

It works fine for me.  But I'd really like to know if it can launch DOS
apps without putting each one into exmbatch...

HTH

-Peniel
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:01:06 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:55:19 -0400 (EDT)

01h43m20s ago ...
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> > Also confirming that you've already got Moreexm installed?
>
> Yes, as I understand it, it will not allow the display of an icon, =
correct?

Not quite.  MoreEXM doesn't provide for an icon, but it won't stop you
from using one.  I have icons for loads of apps installed with MoreEXM
displayed for launching with XF.

-Peniel
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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:36:59 +0930
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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For those of you who use KeyM, I just found a new version of it on
Cargo's web page:

http://member.nifty.ne.jp/cargo/download/keym100.lzh

The only difference I can see from the version on SUPER (0.34) is that
you can now tell KeyM to exit before running the program you select.
To do this, add the following line at the start of your keym.dat file:

QUIT,1

For the old behaviour (KeyM stay open in the background), either leave
the line out altogether, or put

QUIT,0

Can we get our SUPER Japanese translator to confirm that this is the
only difference ?

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:27:14 -0500
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On 04-22 09:01pm CDT, the following was written:

> It works fine for me.  But I'd really like to know if it can launch DOS
> apps without putting each one into exmbatch...

Ditto! I really like the software, but it would be much simpler if someone
could find a way to make it launch DOS programs in a simple manner.

73 Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 04:24:00 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ebbe Horneman <ebbeh@ONLINE.NO>
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From:         Ebbe Horneman <ebbeh@ONLINE.NO>
Subject:      SV:      Re: Infrared Port (2)
Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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This schematic sounds like it would be useful to me to. Would it be to =
much bother to send me a copy to?

Please!...
-Ebbe
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-----Opprinnelig melding-----
Fra: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Til: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Dato: 21. april 1999 23:29
Emne: Re: Infrared Port (2)


>Hi again,
>
>> While some of us are discussing their dreams about the LX, I work =
hard to get more out of it. I currently use only half of the power the =
LX has. If I could use the infrared port, it would be more. I only can =
communicate with another LX or with a Jetey
>e
>> , if I had one :-(
>
>Regarding the jeteye: I've made such a device on my own:
>It's a little case (maybe of the size of a type III PCMCIA-card)
>with a IR transmitter and a few resistors and capacitors in it.
>It's connected to a 5-pin-connector on my SOYO-motherboard.
>This connector is called 'IR' in the manual of the board.
>In the BIOS I can set this IR-port to the UART of COM2, so
>I can use COM2 with the IR device.
>Also I can toggle in the BIOS between IrDA, ASKIR _AND_ HPSIR.
>Here only HPSIR seems to work.
>
>If you also have such a 5-pin-connector on your board,
>I could send you the circuit board layout of my IR-device.
>
>GTX
>daniel
>
>-------------------------------------------------
>Daniel Hertrich
>Germany
>email: d.hertrich@gmx.de
>-------------------------------------------------
>
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:13:49 -0400
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              Edward Moy <edwardmoy@EMAIL.COM>
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From:         Edward Moy <edwardmoy@EMAIL.COM>
Subject:      GREPing titles for X-Finder-YESSS!!
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I want to thank Laust for coming up with the magic batch file
attached below.  You need SED and XGREP in your path.  Put
title.bat in the directory with the files and run it.  The
resulting tst.txt can be renamed _.xfn and is usable as is.
Thanks again Laust!

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<tt>I want to thank Laust for coming up with the magic batch file attached
below.&nbsp; You need SED and XGREP in your path.&nbsp; Put title.bat in
the directory with the files and run it.&nbsp; The resulting tst.txt can
be renamed _.xfn and is usable as is.&nbsp; Thanks again Laust!</tt>
</body>
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XCIxLDEgc1wvXFwoLitcXClcL1wxIFxcMVwvcFwiIFwxID4+IHRzdC50eHQvIiB0ZW1wLjAw
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:14:13 -0700
Reply-To:     Tim Shephard <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
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Can someone point me to where I can find this Taskbar?

I tried searching for taskbar on the super site but I couldn't find it.

Thanks

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Moy <edwardmoy@EMAIL.COM>


>After looking at Taskbar briefly I can see that it could possibly be an
all-in-one for
>those of us who are using programs like Tasklist, PocketLauncher and/or
200mnu.  Right
>now Tasklist and Launcher work well together for me -- but I'd love to find
out TBLX's
>full capabilities.
>

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:43:53 -0600
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              Bob Meyer <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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I would also like to receive a copy. Thanks

Bob Meyer
bmeyer@union-tel.com
Elk Mountain WY

Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi again,
>
> > While some of us are discussing their dreams about the LX, I work hard to get more out of it. I currently use only half of the power the LX has. If I could use the infrared port, it would be more. I only can communicate with another LX or with a Jetey
> e
> > , if I had one :-(
>
> Regarding the jeteye: I've made such a device on my own:
> It's a little case (maybe of the size of a type III PCMCIA-card)
> with a IR transmitter and a few resistors and capacitors in it.
> It's connected to a 5-pin-connector on my SOYO-motherboard.
> This connector is called 'IR' in the manual of the board.
> In the BIOS I can set this IR-port to the UART of COM2, so
> I can use COM2 with the IR device.
> Also I can toggle in the BIOS between IrDA, ASKIR _AND_ HPSIR.
> Here only HPSIR seems to work.
>
> If you also have such a 5-pin-connector on your board,
> I could send you the circuit board layout of my IR-device.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> Daniel Hertrich
> Germany
> email: d.hertrich@gmx.de
> -------------------------------------------------
>
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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:31:14 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: VI Editor Clones
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              Weatherly" at Apr 22, 99 09:08:49 pm
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Don:

> Can you provide the names of the three vi clone editors for HPLX DOS?

Perhaps I should preface my comments with a correction - I don't know for
sure that these are THE three vi clones.  I just happen to have three.
There may well be more that I don't have/know about.

   CALVIN
   ELVIS
   VIM

For fairly heavy, serious editing, especially of program source code, I
use vim.  It has some nice syntax formatting capabilities for C and ASM
and nearly every other kind of source code you can think of.  Also, there's
a pretty nice desktop GUI version called GVIM that I enjoy using when I'm
at the BIG computer.

-Chris

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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Tamas,

>  OK, I knew from previous HPLX-L discussions that over 20 people
>  expressed interest in Palmtop Circuit, so I thought 12+ would buy. I
>  said one dozen licences sure can be sold. They did the math and said
>  90$; I said that's not fair rounding; OK, they said 80$. That's it.

Does that mean, if maybe 20 people are interested in buying _and will_
buy it, the price could be dropped to US$50?

We maaybe could collect 40 people, if we make clear that the software
costs only 25 US$ then!

Maybe you could make a little survey for the interested people
with checkboxes like this:

  I will buy PaCi for 25 US$ if we are 40 interested people

  I will buy PaCi for 50 US$ if we are 20 interested people

  I will buy PaCi for 80 US$ if we are 12 interested people

Then you can count how much checked the same box, then you
(or DesignSoft) can decide who gets the program and for what price
it's sold.



GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:16:55 GMT
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Hi list,

i have a program called tinyprog.exe.
It shrinks exe and com files to a (sometimes much)
lower size.
Does anyone know how this works?
It doesn't seem to cause a longer loading time of
the shrinked program.

What I want to know is:
Could I (for example) shrink programs like www.exe,
post.exe (from www/lx) without problems? They are
on my c: drive where I need every little piece of space
I can get!

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:17:02 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Andreas,

> You get that menu item by adding
>
> Disconnect WWW/LX=DIS.COM
>
> to the External section of POST.CFG. DIS.COM is a 7 byte utility that
> you can find at www.dasoft.com... well I hope nobody minds a 7 byte

That's a good clue, thanks! I'll try that!
Post/LX seems to be able to do everything, one just have to know
how to make it able to!

>
> BTW, why don't you do ftp, HV, etc stuff and *then* as a last action do
> the online run with POST/LX? I always do it that way. So I don't need a
> beep to remind me that POST/LX is now done and I can do the other
> stuff. POST/LX simply hangs up when all stuff is done.

Often I get emails (for example from the list) which tell me to
look up something or wake my interest in looking up something
on the web, so I have to download the emails _first_ and then
use HV or FTP.

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:17:06 GMT
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Hi,

> In the Thaddeus catalog(ue), they advertise a small torch which clips on
> the side of the HP screen. It has a goose-neck arm which wraps around the
> body of the torch when not in use.
>
> Q. Does anybody know of a source for this torch in the UK?
i
Sorry, not in UK, but in Germany: Conrad Electronic sells them, too.
Maybe you find it with a look at www.conrad.de.
They cost a few DM (3 DM, if I recall right).

But I find this light not very useful, because of the arm that's
not solid enough and the need of external battery.

I've made my own solution for lightning the LX's screen, which uses
the palmtop-internal batteries, is lighter than the "flexlite"
and more solid: look at
www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html

There I described how to make it.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:45:54 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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Sorry but I never did catch where this could be downloaded from.
Owen


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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:28:03 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:59:58 -0500, "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@addcoinc=
.com> wrote:

>   Did you intend to type:
>     e 3857 "c:\postxl\www..bat" 0
>   Isn't it really suppose to be:
>     e 3857 "c:\postxl\www.bat" 0
>      (only one period...)
>
>   Or did I misread the EXM docs?
>   ... John L. Stanley

Yeap! Its a mistake. I was a little heavy on the thumb. (:-)



Regards,

Qman...

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:26:01 +1200
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I have had problems with the screen on my 200lx to the extent that it is now
unreadable.

It has lots of lines accross it both verticle and horizontal to the extent
that it is unreadable.

I did speak with HP in the US about obtaning another one which they would
send me but the cost was rather high.

I used my LX as a price book with the data base holding records of over 4600
items. a phone list of over 350 contacts and had other databases that held
orders. product enquiries. and other such usefull ideas with buddy loaded to
give me macros for changing between databases. I even had a macro that would
print the current records based on a filter to a text file that EXPs fax
software could pickup and faxe out. the macro opened minifax and then a
second macro would choose the file and the destination number depending on
where i was located.

Does the memory upgrade of 32/64 meg overcome the built in database record
limit of 5000 recs.

I have looked at all the options out there for a replacement for the LX but
as far as i can tell nothing quite does it like the LX.

There is nothing quite like the data base and the way it can be custiomised
and for the data card to show you only what you want a customer to see.

The question i have is does some one know where i can get a cheap screen
from or does some one have a broke LX with a good screen that i could
purchase from them to get me going as i have rather major withdrawl
symptions.

Regards Malcolm Salisbury

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:08:17 +0200
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Subject:      Re: LXNNTP & Errors

Jeff Johns writes:
> Does anyone know if there is a line which can be added to or changed in the
> wattcp.cfg file that will not cause '!' to be put in front of groups in the
> incoming.jn file when lxnntp encounters an error during an online run?

I don't think so. I looked high and low<g>.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:14:43 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Don E. Weatherly wrote:

> Can you provide the names of the three vi clone editors for HPLX DOS?

Well, there is Calvin, which although not complete (no regular
expressions for instance) is very small and popular on this list.
ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/editor/calvin23.zip

Another vi clone is VIM - Vi Improved. From what I've heard it has pretty
much everything. The latest version will not run on the LX (or at least
too slowly to be of any use), but I'm sure someone can provide you with an
older version that can.

Elvis, is yet another editor. Like VIM it has several enhanced features:
ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/editor/elv18exe.zip

There are lots of other clones/implementationms, including some commercial
ones, such as the one in the MKS (Mortice Kern Systems) UNIX toolkit.


Cheers,

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:03:20 +0100
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              Ian Dean <hplx@PYRAM-ID.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Franklin writes:
>
> How about lobotomizing a HP360LX? :-) Change it's ROM? Better than the XTCE
> project?
>

Well, you could keep the screen, case and keyboard and build a whole new
machine. All you could do by changing the ROM tough, is put XTCE (or a
program like it) into ROM, and all that would do is make it run even
slower. An H/PC does not have any of the conventional PC hardware
present, you can only emulate the conventional PC hardware with software
and what is present in the H/PC.

Ian Dean
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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:57:20 +0100
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Someone on this list wrote:

> > AS THE POSSIBILITIES OF SPEEDING UP THE WIN-CE MACHINES ARE LIMITED (they
> > would end up with far too big power drain), I feel that for a long long time
> > to come we will have to rely on our SUPERB 95, 100 or 200LX PC. Even when
> > the prices of the handheld WIN-CE machines go down so dramatically, they are
> > no replacement for people working in DOS. As I have been lurking on this
> > list for a long time, I want to thank all of those, that make it so useful
> > and interesting.
> > So much for a test of "new technology"
>
> I worked with some engineers and software hotshots on
> estimating what it will take to port the workload many of
> us run through the 200LX into a WinCE. They worked in
> pairs, and we had 6 teams doing these evaluations based on
> all sorts of benchmarks, trials etc. The estimates arrived
> at called for a 450MHz to 750MHz cpu in the WinCE to
> process the same workload.
>
> Caverat: The machines would all be amulating a 80186 using
> the XTCE.
>
> In the meeting where their teams presented their findings,
> I heard several computer executives from Asia mumble about
> why the estimates were so low! :)
>
> Anyway, the power requirements are staggering. Also, it was
> pointed out the mahine itself would have to grow so it can
> accomodate enough heat dissipation to chips running so hot.
>
> Yeah, so much for "new technology". The world's population
> would have to lose a significant portion of their
> brainpower to buy that joke!

Well, Hewlett-Packard must be very impressed with their HP Jornada 820
then. It manages to run every benchmark and trial that I've tried on
XTCE on it at the same speed or faster than a 20Mhz 80186 (ie. faster
than a double speed HP200LX). In most cases it runs them up to 2x faster
than an IBM AT too (8Mhz 80286). I thought that this message was
bullsh*t when I first read it, now I'm sure. The HP Jornada 820 can run
XTCE for around 10 hours constantly from it's battery and doesn't even
get warm. The other new CE machines like the Sharp Tripad and Mobilon
Pro run at these kind of speeds too.

Some people like DOS and some people like Windows CE. If you don't like
Windows CE, that's fine, but please don't make up stories about my
software.

Ian Dean
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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:40:53 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

> I don't know if Thaddeus is listening but I would pay real money
> for a backlit HP200LX that didn't require an external power supply.
> Would I use it all the time? No, just when I had the HP plugged in
> and when occasionally I would want to use it at night (looking up a
> phone number next to a payphone for example).

would you also pay money for a front-lit solution that requires no
external power supply??? 8-)

Take a look at
www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html
there you'll find my light solution that works very well.
It's powered by the internal batteries and simply plugged
into the serial port.

And you don't have to pay lots of money.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:57:17 +0200
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              "stephan.goeldi" <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
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I found the EXMEXE on super. Isn't it this program, that creates an EXE to start an EXM?

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:53:25 +0200
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the EXM to EXE 'converter' is: exmex100.zip

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:42:37 +0200
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<snip>
To TBLX users,
what function(s) does TBLX give you that makes it worthwhile to install and use?
</snip>

The main function is: you can show it to the CE, GameboyPilot and Psion guys and tell them: "This is Windows LX". That's worthwile, isn't it?

-goe-

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:16:01 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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I was using vi myself on any Unix system.
and Xvi on msdos.
Xvi is a vi clone for dos witch give you the posibility to have more than one
window (text open) at the same time
regards
Alain
PS: it's a DP program with source

Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:09:16 -0500
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              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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  Try:
      http://member.nifty.ne.jp/cargo/hp200lx2.htm#TBLX

  The program is called TBLX.  To download the program, click
the floppydisk icon in the top right corner of the box marked
TBLX.

  Mitch is trying to get permission from the author (CARGO)
and will then should be able to add it to the SUPER site....

  BTW, this is also the author of the very useful KeyM program.
The newest version of KeyM is also available from the same web
page mentioned above.

      ... John L. Stanley

 --
John L. Stanley <JLStanley@addcoinc.com>
Sr. Software Engineer - ADDCO Inc.




-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Shephard mailto:pacific@CASTLES.COM
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 10:14 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: HPLX Re: TaskBar


Can someone point me to where I can find this Taskbar?

I tried searching for taskbar on the super site but I couldn't find it.

Thanks

-Tim
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tims.phone@bigfoot.com

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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:00:30 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question

Steven Lawson writes:
> > With the LX's instant on, it is a much better bet for a quick look-see
> > in an airport lounge than my laptop
>
> I can personally vouch for this, having taken a number of trips where I
> left my laptop at home.  I can pop into one of these airport 'business
> cubicles', download my mail, and be ready to catch my next flight before
> most of the other people have gotten their laptops plugged in and booted.

When I started my new job 2 years ago I knew I would be traveling
on business.  I bought my 200LX with that in mind and have *never*
taken anything else.

Ted

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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: New game for 100/200LX - Snake

Curtis Cameron writes:
> I've posted a preliminary version of the classic game "Snake". If
> anyone's interested, let me know what you think. You can get it at
> http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html

Well, you've done it again.  Great game, thanks *very* much!

Ted

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              Edward Moy <edwardmoy@EMAIL.COM>
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Sorry I meant to send that inline and not as a binary. Doh!

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1999-04-22-23:23:19 Claude_Holle:
> Is there some information on the care and feeding of rechargables using
> batset? For example what are the best charge rate/ times for different types
> of rechargables etc.

Probably, somewhere. I dunno where. A very simple approach works for me; it
worked with Radio Shack 850mAH NiCds (their "Hi Capacity"), and it works like
a champ with the Radio Shack NiMH's (I forget their rating; 1200mAH?). What I
do is, when I first start with a brand new pair, disable batset (or do this
bit before you first install it). Plug the LX into AC, swap in the brand new
(stone dead) batteries, and set it to start charging. Go away for 6 hours.
Unplug it and plug it back in, to start a second 6-hour high-current charging
cycle. At this point your NiCds are topped off, or your NiMH's are well on up
there.

Now add to your autoexec.bat "batset /c/t=00:01", which tells batset to
install and-and-remain-resident, watch the charger, and turn it down to
trickle after one minute of high-current charging. Then I have one AC adaptor
on my night table; I plug it in whenever I'm sleeping (it's also my alarm
clock:-). I have another adaptor at my desk; whenever I'm there it's plugged
in and trickling.

The theory here is that recently-made rechargable batteries are mainly slain
by overcharging at high current and hence overheating, or excessively deep
discharging (particularly for serial battery sets, where any imbalance between
cells and the first cell down gets reverse voltage across it). So don't deeply
discharge the batteries in normal operation, and don't push 'em up past full
with high current. A trickle doesn't seem to hurt them.

-Bennett

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Congratulations!  Glad to hear you have it working.  8-)

Tried to find YGREP, but only came up with windoze versions...

Regards

-Peniel
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At 12:16 PM 23/04/99 GMT, you wrote:
>Hi list,
>
>i have a program called tinyprog.exe.
>It shrinks exe and com files to a (sometimes much)
>lower size.

Hi Daniel

Compression effectively replaces frequently used data segments with shorter
ones. To illustrate if you had a DB of web sites you could save some space
by changing the "http://www." in every address to say ""  That way one
character replaces eleven. It then takes a little time to write it out in
full whenever the  is encountered..Therefore the short delay.

I hope this is the question you asked and has been answered satisfactorily.


Since you are short on C: space here are 2 things to try if you havent already.

1 is to Jam your C: drive.  Jam125.zip is on Super I believe. Essentially
doubles your disk space by using "on the fly" compression.

2 is to look at http://web.act.by.net/~act/act-exepack.html and find a
stronger compression prog than tinyprog that suits your needs.

I am still in process of collating results of LX compatible compression
progs as the ACT tests are getting more and more advanced processor
requirements.

Once complete I will post the test results for LX compatible compressors.

You can do both Jamming and Compressing the files on your LX for max space.

Hope this helps

If you want Jam configs etc please email me direct. I'll help if I can.

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Ian Dean writes:
> Someone on this list wrote:
>
> > > AS THE POSSIBILITIES OF SPEEDING UP THE WIN-CE MACHINES ARE LIMITED (they
> > > would end up with far too big power drain), I feel that for a long long time
> > > to come we will have to rely on our SUPERB 95, 100 or 200LX PC. Even when
> > > the prices of the handheld WIN-CE machines go down so dramatically, they are
> > > no replacement for people working in DOS. As I have been lurking on this
> > > list for a long time, I want to thank all of those, that make it so useful
> > > and interesting.
> > > So much for a test of "new technology"
> >
> > I worked with some engineers and software hotshots on
> > estimating what it will take to port the workload many of
> > us run through the 200LX into a WinCE. They worked in
> > pairs, and we had 6 teams doing these evaluations based on
> > all sorts of benchmarks, trials etc. The estimates arrived
> > at called for a 450MHz to 750MHz cpu in the WinCE to
> > process the same workload.
> >
> > Caverat: The machines would all be amulating a 80186 using
> > the XTCE.
> >
> > In the meeting where their teams presented their findings,
> > I heard several computer executives from Asia mumble about
> > why the estimates were so low! :)
> >
> > Anyway, the power requirements are staggering. Also, it was
> > pointed out the mahine itself would have to grow so it can
> > accomodate enough heat dissipation to chips running so hot.
> >
> > Yeah, so much for "new technology". The world's population
> > would have to lose a significant portion of their
> > brainpower to buy that joke!
>
> Well, Hewlett-Packard must be very impressed with their HP Jornada 820
> then. It manages to run every benchmark and trial that I've tried on
> XTCE on it at the same speed or faster than a 20Mhz 80186 (ie. faster
> than a double speed HP200LX). In most cases it runs them up to 2x faster
> than an IBM AT too (8Mhz 80286). I thought that this message was
> bullsh*t when I first read it, now I'm sure. The HP Jornada 820 can run
> XTCE for around 10 hours constantly from it's battery and doesn't even
> get warm. The other new CE machines like the Sharp Tripad and Mobilon
> Pro run at these kind of speeds too.
>
> Some people like DOS and some people like Windows CE. If you don't like
> Windows CE, that's fine, but please don't make up stories about my
> software.
>

I really seriously doubt he was making up stories.
Why not get a Tinynote? Same size or smaller. Get a 250 Mhz x86.
Won't have to run your programs
at 8 mhz. Get to run them at 250 Mhz. Don't have to emulate anything.
If battery life is a problem get a second battery. Goin' to have to use
a bag anyway to carry it. Personally I think XTCE is a good idea and if
the CE things had a decent keyboard I'd try out maybe the 680 and run XTCE
on it. But they don't replace the 200LX don't even come close.

John

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39m36s ago ...
On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Bennett Todd wrote:

> The theory here is that recently-made rechargable batteries are mainly =
slain
> by overcharging at high current and hence overheating,

True...

> or excessively deep
> discharging (particularly for serial battery sets, where any imbalance
> between cells and the first cell down gets reverse voltage across it).
> So don't deeply discharge the batteries in normal operation,

True - but not applicable to the LX.  If the first cell goes down
completely, so will the LX.  Actually, the palmtop will be giving "Main
battery low" or "...Very low" warnings well before this happens.  If
the battery voltage drops further the LX goes into "backup mode", and
won't restart until it gets fresh batteries.  In five years, I only had
the machine go into backup once - with RS NiMH cells.  One warning,
then into backup.

> and don't push 'em up past full with high current.

Also good advice!

> A trickle doesn't seem to hurt them.

Hmmm - actually with Nicads, constant trickle charging can reduce the
ability to hold a dharge.  This is something different from the alleged
"memory effect".  There was an article a couple of years ago in PTP
that said that constant trickle charge produces growth of large cadmium
crystals in nicads, thus reducing capacity.

There are a couple of charge control programs available.  D&A has an
excellent commercial product called ABC/LX, and there's also a freeware
controller called Charge-It! (by yours truly) on SUPER.


Regards

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>
> Hmmm - actually with Nicads, constant trickle charging can reduce the
> ability to hold a dharge.  This is something different from the alleged
> "memory effect".  There was an article a couple of years ago in PTP
> that said that constant trickle charge produces growth of large cadmium
> crystals in nicads, thus reducing capacity.

That is from any constant current charging source actually. The constant
current causes the build up of crystals. Also happens in nickel metal
hydrides. Than is why most manufacturers recommend a high frequency pulsed
current. That will break up the crystals.

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On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> We maaybe could collect 40 people, if we make clear that the software
> costs only 25 US$ then!

I'd pay $25 for a copy, but not $80.  At $25, I think a lot of "casual"
users would be interested just to say they can design circuits on the
palmtop, even if they aren't electrical engineers and can't design
anything useful.  <g>

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On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Malcolm & Karyn wrote:

> Does the memory upgrade of 32/64 meg overcome the built in database
> record limit of 5000 recs.

No.  However, with that much space on your C: drive, you could put a new
database program on there and convert your data over...

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I'll second that! $25 is a reasonable price



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
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>
> On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> > We maaybe could collect 40 people, if we make clear that the software
> > costs only 25 US$ then!
>
> I'd pay $25 for a copy, but not $80.  At $25, I think a lot of "casual"
> users would be interested just to say they can design circuits on the
> palmtop, even if they aren't electrical engineers and can't design
> anything useful.  <g>
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On 04-23 09:31am CDT, the following was written:

> I'd pay $25 for a copy, but not $80.  At $25, I think a lot of "casual"
> users would be interested just to say they can design circuits on the
> palmtop, even if they aren't electrical engineers and can't design
> anything useful.  <g>

I can design something useful, although I'm not an engineer, but I can't
afford $80. $25 would be much better for me.

73 Jeff

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On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> I can design something useful, although I'm not an engineer, but I
> can't afford $80. $25 would be much better for me.

The only problem I can see is that shipping costs will go way up for a
bunch of $25 packages as opposed to a few $80 packages.  Not only would
shipping costs make up a much larger portion of the cost of the package,
but there would be a lot of shipping costs as well.

Perhaps Thaddeus could order a lot of copies, get a bulk discount, and
sell the package themselves at a more consumer-friendly price.

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 > I'd pay $25 for a copy, but not $80.  At $25, I think a lot of "casual"
 > users would be interested just to say they can design circuits on the
 > palmtop, even if they aren't electrical engineers and can't design
 > anything useful.  <g>

What worthwhile circuit design program goes for 25 bucks?

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On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> What worthwhile circuit design program goes for 25 bucks?

Beats me.  I'm still not sure I even understand the difference between
PACI and PSPICE.  But I bet sales would go up for a $25 program as opposed
to an $80 program.  Whether it would be enough to compensate for the
increased shipping costs I don't know...

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On 04-23 03:06am CDT, the following was written:

> What worthwhile circuit design program goes for 25 bucks?

Actually none, but I have SPICE on the desktop and am not going spend $80
for a cicuit designer just to run on the LX.

73 Jeff

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<<Perhaps Thaddeus could order a lot of copies, get a bulk discount, and
sell the package themselves at a more consumer-friendly price.>>

Perhaps<g>. So good to have you working for us<g>. Actually, I just
don't think we would sell enough to make it worth while -- it is not
universal enough a product.  Wish we could help.

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> Beats me.  I'm still not sure I even understand the difference between
> PACI and PSPICE.

I can't speak for PACI yet, as I haven't gotten a copy.  But if it works
as claimed, it is a *steal* at $80.  A real copy of PSPICE (one that
allows you to analyze reasonable circuits) usually goes for several
thousand dollars.  The "evaluation" copies of PSPICE that are available
(for free or real cheap) limit you to a small number of nodes.  If you
try to use any "real-world" components, like op-amps, comparitors, etc,
their models usually blow you past this limit in a hurry.

So, the jury is still out on PACI, but if it's anything like PSPICE,
it is a real bargain at $80.

-Chris


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On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote:

> Perhaps<g>. So good to have you working for us<g>.

Glad to help out.  If I have any more thoughts, I'll be sure to blurt htem
to the whole list.  <g>

> Actually, I just don't think we would sell enough to make it worth
> while -- it is not universal enough a product.  Wish we could help.

All right, but don't underestimate the geek appeal for 200LX users. <g>

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Does anyone have any experience, good or bad, with the palmax notebook?
I'm probably gonna have to get a laptop/notebook computer for work that
runs Windows, and this one caught my eye.

-Chris Lott

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On 04-23 10:50am CDT, the following was written:

> All right, but don't underestimate the geek appeal for 200LX users. <g>

I love being a geek..... I wonder what it is like to be "normal"?

73 Jeff

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    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
    *------------------------------------------------------------------*

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:22:47 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report

David Sargeant writes:
> On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> > What worthwhile circuit design program goes for 25 bucks?
>
> Beats me.  I'm still not sure I even understand the difference between
> PACI and PSPICE.  But I bet sales would go up for a $25 program as opposed
> to an $80 program.  Whether it would be enough to compensate for the
> increased shipping costs I don't know...

I didn't get enough information about PACI to be able to compare but
I know Pspice is a very good program. If it is comparable then its
well worth the money.

The idea of someone making a volume purchase then redistributing is a
good idea. If someone was willing to do that I'd be willing to prepay
my order.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:47:46 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: How many are we on this list??
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All

1 day 18h35m51s ago ...
On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Tomas Moberg wrote:

> How many people read the list including digest readers?
> Does the administrator know?
>
>       /tomas moberg

There are about 900 subscriptions on the HPLX-L. I figure ~150 are
duplicate subscriptions, so a conservatice estimate would be ~750

Cheers,

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*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:49:11 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: Another POST/LX idea
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> And it would be good if there was a possibility to
> let the modem hang up without quitting Post/LX.
...
> daniel
>

There is a program called Dis at dasofts ftp section that You can run
as an external that hangs up. Good to use when You have unchecked the
"hang up after online" option in postsetup but still likes to hang up.

Actualy I kinda like this approach. Its good to add functionality via
the external menu. Then You can choose what components You like to
have.
Like the Digest reader feature in Goin postal. I have that too, and i
use post/lx. You have to get LXDR (lx digest reader on SUPER) and run
that as a external. When I get a digest in my digest folder then I just
press menu x x r and now I can read the digest message by message and
export it to a folder if I like to reply to it.

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:20:50 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
Subject:      Re: How many are we on this list??
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

So if some paging company was to offer something like... say, a pager that
was IR connected to a palmtop, allowing two-way email at the rate of 800, 10
character packets for $25 a month, plus the cost of the pager ($240) and
palmtop software ($50)... that company could expect about 750 pieces of hate
mail when it becomes known that the service totally _excludes_ DOS based
palmtops?

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Al Kind SMTP:MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>
> There are about 900 subscriptions on the HPLX-L. I figure ~150 are
> duplicate subscriptions, so a conservatice estimate would be ~750
>
> Cheers,
>
> *Al Kind

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:21:52 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Organization: HP200LX User
Subject:      Re: Another POST/LX idea
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On 04-23 11:49am CDT, the following was written:

> Like the Digest reader feature in Goin postal.

I still can't get over how 'neat' the digest feature of Goin' Postal is to
use. It really makes digest reading much easier.

73 Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:28:55 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
Subject:      Re: Another POST/LX idea
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
...
> That's a good clue, thanks! I'll try that!
> Post/LX seems to be able to do everything, one just have to know
> how to make it able to!

Can you tell me how to make POST/LX cleaning my appartment? :-)

> Often I get emails (for example from the list) which tell me to
> look up something or wake my interest in looking up something
> on the web, so I have to download the emails _first_ and then
> use HV or FTP.

So you read all your mail while still online? I do it on the next
online run and therefore do ftp etc. just before POST/LX.

Andreas

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:38:50 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Another POST/LX idea
In-Reply-To:  <199904231728.TAA592206@mail.iprolink.ch> from Andreas Garzotto
              at "Apr 23, 99 07:28:55 pm"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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> Can you tell me how to make POST/LX cleaning my appartment? :-)

Oh, that's just a few simple steps:

1) Get HP to get their heads out of their butts and start
     building/selling/improving the 200LX

2) Sell POST/LX by the truckload to all the new 200LX owners who have
     mercifully been rescued from the depths of WinCE

3) Use newfound wealth to hire large crew of young bikini-clad "domestic
     organizational engineers"

Of course, step 1 will be the most difficult... :-)

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:54:17 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Re: How many are we on this list??
In-Reply-To:  <199904231720.MAA12476@sdds0.pagenet.com>; from Phil Drummond on
              Fri, Apr 23, 1999 at 12:20:50PM -0500
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Just to chime in on this thread...there are about 820 folks on the SUPER
announce list for new software.
--
Mitch
SUPER Team

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:24:43 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: How many are we on this list??
In-Reply-To:  <199904231720.MAA12476@sdds0.pagenet.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Phil Drummond wrote:

> So if some paging company was to offer something like... say, a pager
> that was IR connected to a palmtop, allowing two-way email at the rate
> of 800, 10 character packets for $25 a month, plus the cost of the
> pager ($240) and palmtop software ($50)... that company could expect
> about 750 pieces of hate mail when it becomes known that the service
> totally _excludes_ DOS based palmtops?

Go America offers UNLIMITED wireless messaging of that sort for $59.95 a
month, and totally excludes DOS palmtops.  Bill Childers even got into a
fight with a service rep from that company over the issue...

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:27:51 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: How many are we on this list??
In-Reply-To:  <19990423135417.A29707@palmtop.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) wrote:

> Just to chime in on this thread...there are about 820 folks on the
> SUPER announce list for new software.

I've got about 275 on the news server now.  Obviously there's going to be
a lot of overlap between news.hplx.net and HPLX-L and the new software
announcement list... and also HPHand.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:25:42 -0500
Reply-To:     speters@kdsi.net
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
Subject:      HELP!!  I'm drowning in E-mail.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

HPLX-L seems to be turning into a chat room.
Consequently, I mostly delete before reading.

Can't we change the default reply to be sender
and not HPLX-L so that people would have to
give some thought before broadcasting?

With Netscape (unregistered) 4.05, I thought I
could divert classes of msgs to another folder,
but I can't find the way to do it.
Should I be using another mail package?

I don't mind people quoting several lines in
their replies, but please, put part of your reply near the
top of the msg. because I'm not likely to scroll down
to view your words of wisdom.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:30:54 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Another POST/LX idea
In-Reply-To:  <19990423173850.1BC229611@mcp.sdl.continet.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Steven Lawson wrote:

> 3) Use newfound wealth to hire large crew of young bikini-clad "domestic
>      organizational engineers"
>
> Of course, step 1 will be the most difficult... :-)

Personally, I'd think Andreas's wife's reaction to step 3 would be the
most difficult... BUT YOU NEVER KNOW...

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:40:49 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: HELP!!  I'm drowning in E-mail.
In-Reply-To:  <3720BB26.534E657F@kdsi.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Stan Peters wrote:

> With Netscape (unregistered) 4.05, I thought I could divert classes of
> msgs to another folder, but I can't find the way to do it. Should I be
> using another mail package?

First create a new "HPLX" folder for list mail.  Then, under Edit... Mail
Filters, define a new filter so that if the To: contains
hplx-l@uconnvm.uconn.edu, the message is moved to the HPLX folder.  Then
all your list mail should go there.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:44:13 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Organization: HP200LX User
Subject:      Re: HELP!!  I'm drowning in E-mail.
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On 04-23 01:25pm CDT, the following was written:

> Can't we change the default reply to be sender
> and not HPLX-L so that people would have to
> give some thought before broadcasting?

At times, I am guilty of some of the mentioned items, but I consider all of
you my friends so sometimes I might get a bit off topic. I apologize for
sometimes being off topic. With that said, the digest version may be a
better option for you or possibly news.hplx.net which mirrors the list or
even reading the list via the web.

73 Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:52:26 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Another POST/LX idea

>
> Can you tell me how to make POST/LX cleaning my appartment? :-)
>

A wireless modem plugged into the pcmcia slot controlling a little
"Robby" robot.<totally serious face>

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:13:13 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject:      CPACK (LLRA) under W95
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All:

    I thought I had the procedure for running LLRA under W95, but I
can't find it...can someone refresh my memory?

TIA & Cheers,


*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
*Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124     |___/        Team 200LX

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:00:18 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: HELP!!  I'm drowning in E-mail.

> With Netscape (unregistered) 4.05, I thought I
> could divert classes of msgs to another folder,
> but I can't find the way to do it.
> Should I be using another mail package?

YES! LXTCP, Post/LX or Goin' Postal

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:22:31 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Wow!
Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1290841173__"

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> Avi, Andreas??
> This would be great in POST/LX, too. I think that downloading
> a digest of HPLX-L would take much less time than downloading
> each single message.
>

What is a digest? Excuse my ignorance.
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Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk)


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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:31:44 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
Subject:      Re: Another POST/LX idea
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Steven Lawson wrote:
...
> 1) Get HP to get their heads out of their butts and start
> building/selling/improving the 200LX

Hmmm. Seems to be easier to implement a "clean appartment" feature in
POST/LX :-)

> 3) Use newfound wealth to hire large crew of young bikini-clad "domestic
> organizational engineers"

Sounds interesting again (hoping my wife does not read this list...)

> Of course, step 1 will be the most difficult... :-)

Seems we agree!

Andreas

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:36:05 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Rich C. Johnson" <Rich.Johnson@EY.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "Rich C. Johnson" <Rich.Johnson@EY.COM>
Subject:      Re: CPACK (LLRA) under W95
Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

Al,
Besides copying the LLRA TSRs and batch files to your desktop. You need to edit the TSI.INI file to reflect the correct comm port and drives.
Then, for me the trick was creating a shortcut which specifies command.com  as the "command line" and LLRA.BAT as the "batch file". The last step is very important. From the program tab, select "advanced" and check the box which says  "Prevent MS-DOS programs from detecting Windows".

This are the "down and dirty" instructions. More information is available in the "Hacking with Jorgen" section of HPLX.NET.

Hope this jogs your memory.

Rich

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:53:26 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: CPACK (LLRA) under W95 - Humor...
Comments: To: "Rich C. Johnson" <Rich.Johnson@EY.COM>

re:
>select "advanced" and check the box which says  "Prevent MS-DOS programs
from detecting >Windows".

Now, if we could just check a box that prevents *ME* from detecting Windows,
we'd be golden ;-)

not ~really~ slamming Windows (no pun intended) here ... just've run into
some tough and mysterious Windows malfunctions <I mean features> at work
today....

--tim


CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-7608

---------------------------------
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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:11:42 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
Subject:      Re: How many are we on this list??
Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> Go America offers UNLIMITED wireless messaging of that sort for $59.95 =
a
> month, and totally excludes DOS palmtops.  Bill Childers even got into =
a
> fight with a service rep from that company over the issue...

Oh, you had to bring that up...

I am still steamed at that conversation...

"The 200LX is an obsolete toy." -- Sales puke

"OH YEAH!?!  Why is it I can buy a 200LX with twice as much memory as a
Windows CE Machine, huh?" -- Me

"You can't... they only came with 1MB of RAM." -- SP

"Wanna bet?  Tell you what, go to www.palmtoppaper.com or
www.palmtop.net or www.hplx.net and see just how obsolete it is.
Better yet, ask HP why it's still in production." -- Me

"It's not in production, they discontinued it!" -- SP

"Tell you what, when you get your facts straight, give me a call.
<click>" -- Me

Man, I'm mad about that...

Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting    Gilroy, CA

-- Who's still searching for the perfect Wireless email solution for
the 200LX --

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:47:19 -0400
Reply-To:     patrickwest@uswest.net
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET>
Subject:      Re: HD with Compact Flash Form Factor
Comments: To: Robert Wuttke <rowu@tfh-berlin.de>

Addressed to: Robert Wuttke <rowu@tfh-berlin.de>
              HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>

** Reply to note from Robert Wuttke <rowu@tfh-berlin.de>         Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:49:57 +0100
> this one might be a nice toy for every 200LX user:
> http://www.storage.ibm.com/hardsoft/diskdrdl/micro/
>
Looks very nice.  Any idea how much?

Patrick West
patrickwest@uswest.net

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:54:38 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
Subject:      Re: HELP!!  I'm drowning in E-mail.
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <199904231845.NAA30565x@scott.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Jeff:

> With that said, the digest version may be a better option for you or
possibly news.hplx.net which mirrors >the list or even reading the list via
the web.

If you  get the digest version,  you still receive all of the mail....and
all of the excessive quoting that occurs. The same is true when using
news.hplx.net.

There have been times when replies quote replies to other replies, and
nothing more. Nothing at all added by the responder!

If people just took the time to include just a short portion of the post
being replied to, rather than the whole post, and put their replies close
to the top of the message rather than the bottom, it would make reading (or
skimming) much easier. It might also speed downloading.

Alan

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:03:42 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: HELP!!  I'm drowning in E-mail.
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On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Alan Peres wrote:

> If you get the digest version, you still receive all of the
> mail....and all of the excessive quoting that occurs. The same is true
> when using news.hplx.net.

On the other hand, both digest version and news.hplx.net significantly cut
down the headers, which speeds things up.  But I agree that excessive
quoting is a problem we should all work on.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:06:16 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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MIME-Version: 1.0
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What ever you do, if you call the people who manage the server I post from,
don't get me involved.

--- The following is my opinion only. ---
I'm sure you will get a similar response from Pagenet.  Don't blame me, I
tried to impress upon them the importance of the HP200LX to Pagenet's
operation.  Even after I demonstrated that I can operate, upgrade (via
flash), and track _all_ the equipment in use through out the system here,
they still had a blank, no-support look.
--- My opinion, only my opinion. ---

Phil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Childers SMTP:childers@GARLIC.COM
>
> Man, I'm mad about that...
>
> Bill Childers
>

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:14:04 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: HD with Compact Flash Form Factor
Comments: To: patrickwest@uswest.net
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Website says it's not available till mid-1999, and I don't see it sold anywhere
(web-wise)...not even an estimated cost on the sites that mention it.

- Longden





Patrick West <patrickwest@USWEST.NET> on 04/23/99 02:47:19 PM

Please respond to patrickwest@uswest.net

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)

Subject:  Re: HD with Compact Flash Form Factor





> this one might be a nice toy for every 200LX user:
> http://www.storage.ibm.com/hardsoft/diskdrdl/micro/
>

Looks very nice.  Any idea how much?

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:33:44 -0700
Reply-To:     Tim Shephard <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Tim Shephard <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
Subject:      Re: HD with Compact Flash Form Factor
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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It says it needs 500ma :-(

From website...

Q: What's the power usage of these microdrives? What do I have to consider
as I design a new product in terms of power usage of the microdrives?
A: IBM 170/340 MB microdrives comply with the latest CF+ specification. For
design purposes, the maximum current for the new CF+ devices is generally
500mA; if the microdrive is used, the host system may generally have a power
supply capable of supplying 500mA, which complies with CF+ specifications.


-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com



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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:39:33 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Paul Yarnell <pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM>
Subject:      (fluff)Re: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:03:13 -0500, Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

je> On 04-23 10:50am CDT, the following was written:
je>
je> > All right, but don't underestimate the geek appeal for 200LX users. =
<g>
je>
je> I love being a geek..... I wonder what it is like to be "normal"?


"The trouble with normal is it only gets worse" - Bruce Cockburn

<g>

Paul

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Date:         Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:55:04 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@TELIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: HTTPS on a hp200lx?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> > I have temporarily solved it by telneting to a Unix account and there
> > using LYNX wich handles https.
> >
>
> Lynx neither.  Funny, I'm sure I read in the documentation it
> doesn't support https.  Doesn't work for me.
>

Yes LYNX does not support https unles You add support for it.
Your administrator have to install the https support. Dont remember the
site I found the add-on on. But I can look it up.

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:24:21 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              colin cohen <ccohen5@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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From:         colin cohen <ccohen5@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Lost HP200LX, help
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I have lost my HP200LX. Its S/N is sg44305026 and it has my name on the r=
ear plate and top card thus:
 colin cohen
I left it on UA977 from Frankfurt to Dulles arriving 3/31. If anyone has =
any contacts at UA that can help me find it, I would be mighty appreciati=
ve.

Thanks.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:29:46 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> But I agree that excessive quoting is a problem we should all work on.

We don't ALL need to work on this problem, only the few(?) that
repeatedly quote in full need to be educated (or flogged? :-).

Idea...
Since the Listserv adds that constant info line at the bottom of
every post could it also check for that line QUOTED and reject
the post if found?

I don't think the problem is people not editing quoted material
ENOUGH, I think the problem is they don't edit it AT ALL.

Maybe if we make them edit out that one line they'll take the
time to delete a few more.

Comments?

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:35:00 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: HELP!!  I'm drowning in E-mail.
In-Reply-To:  <199904232329.XAA91340@out4.ibm.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Russel Brooks wrote:

> We don't ALL need to work on this problem, only the few(?) that
> repeatedly quote in full need to be educated (or flogged? :-).

That's how we can all work on it.  If we're offenders, we can stop.  And
if we're not, we can flog the offenders.  <g>

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:00:03 +800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Gary Jacek <Gary_Jacek@BC.SYMPATICO.CA>
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From:         Gary Jacek <Gary_Jacek@BC.SYMPATICO.CA>
Subject:      Re: How many are we on this list??
MIME-Version: 1.0

<Decloaking>

On 1999-04-23 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
   >> Go America offers UNLIMITED wireless messaging of that sort for
   >>$59.95 a  month, and totally excludes DOS palmtops.  Bill Childers
   >>even got into a  fight with a service rep from that company over
   >the issue...
   >Oh, you had to bring that up...
   >I am still steamed at that conversation...
   >"The 200LX is an obsolete toy." -- Sales puke
<snip>

When did this Sales Puke get laid off by Radio Shack
and join Go America?  Or is Go America a Tandy Company?

Perhaps we can find people in the group who have old
LX pager interface software for the various carriers
and gather it in a centralized location.

Even if they don't support it any more, I suppose you
could sign up for the service and run the old DOS/EXM software
if you can find it.

Forgive me Avi, but backward salesdroids call for
drastic measures, and "Whirlies" have been outlawed
in most States.

..Gary


"NO CARRIER"
            -- Really BAD News for a Naval Aviator --

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Date:         Sat, 24 Apr 1999 02:57:48 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Bob Newins <b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: FS: Zoom Pocket Modem
Comments: To: maartens@IAFRICA.COM
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=BB Practical Peripherals Pocket Modem, because they use AA's.
 Until I got your email I didn't know there was a 9v LIon.  Now I may =
keep
 it!=BB

Bill,

But the PP used 4 AA batteries and is in an external battery pack.  No =
lights if I remember correctly?

The 9v Lithium from RS is called Ultralife ($6.99).  I have been using =
this setup for years.  A couple of notes.  The battery is a very tight =
fit, but I always get it in there.  You have to be careful no the pinch =
the tiny wires.  Also I have noticed that after a lot of use as you get =
near the end life you might start getting incompleat online runs before =
the LB(low battery) light comes on.  This is because lithiums tend to run =
in a higher operating range (like 9.83v new to 8.8v used up).  The LB =
light is waiting for a lower used up alk. reading.

If you don't have the Shier custom cable ($30-35) get one.  It makes the =
whole thing very portable.     =3DBob=3D

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Date:         Sat, 24 Apr 1999 02:57:33 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Bob Newins <b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: FS: Zoom Pocket Modem
Comments: To: maartens@IAFRICA.COM
MIME-Version: 1.0
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> How big is the thing?  Does it have your regular 25 pin parallel
> modem port?
>
> And various lights on it?

Andy,

It has a 9 pin serial port.  4 lights, LB(low battery), RD(receive), =
SD(send), MR(modem ready).  It is about 2/3 the size of a 200LX (about 4 =
1/2 X 2 3/8 x 1 inch).  Weighs about 5.5 oz. with battery installed.  =
=3DBob=3D

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:31:47 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: How many are we on this list??
In-Reply-To:  <199904240200.TAA14588@nfs1-1.bctel.ca>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Gary Jacek wrote:

> When did this Sales Puke get laid off by Radio Shack and join Go
> America?  Or is Go America a Tandy Company?

The really sick part is that I got a letter from RadioMail, the last
wireless carrier to support the 200LX, saying that their "traditional"
service was discontinued in favor of their new "blue kite" service
(Windows 95/98 only) as of December 31, 1998.  I got this AFTER the
deadline.  The second page of the letter said that if, "for some reason,"
I felt the need to not change over to their Windows-only software, I
should contact Go America as they would, "through special contract with
RadioMail," transition me over smoothly.  And instead, what do I get?
Fanatical anti-200LX tirades from the supposely "smooth transitioners."
Gimme a break.

> Even if they don't support it any more, I suppose you could sign up
> for the service and run the old DOS/EXM software if you can find it.

If you can, that would be good... but I don't think it works out.  The old
software is still available, but it doesn't work with the new services.

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Date:         Sat, 24 Apr 1999 03:23:00 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Another POST/LX idea
Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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> Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> ...
> > That's a good clue, thanks! I'll try that!
> > Post/LX seems to be able to do everything, one just have to know
> > how to make it able to!
>
> Can you tell me how to make POST/LX cleaning my appartment? :-)

Well, when Post informs me thru an email that an international guest (or
maybe even for a national guest) such as yourself were to be visiting, I
would be forced to clean my house.  I've entertained Gilles and Erika
twice.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:45:27 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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From:         "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
Subject:      Battery Charging (Was: Backlit 200LX)
In-Reply-To:  <199903230922.PNR04634@bitstream.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Which chargers create a high frequency pulsed current?

Does the HP?00LX do this?

=====================================
At 09:22 AM 4/23/99 +0200, you wrote:
>
>That is from any constant current charging source actually. The constant
>current causes the build up of crystals. Also happens in nickel metal
>hydrides. Than is why most manufacturers recommend a high frequency pulsed
>current. That will break up the crystals.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:06:55 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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From:         "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
Organization: Orion Enterprises
Subject:      HPLX Server!
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A WWW server running on an HP 200lx!
WOW!  That's amazing!  I'd like to see a WinCE, Psion or PalmPilot do
THAT!

It's not something that I'd want to do with my 200lx, but it's still
very cool.

See: http://technoir.nu:8080/hplx/

Richard Smith

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 21:08:47 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote:

> A WWW server running on an HP 200lx! WOW!  That's amazing!  I'd like
> to see a WinCE, Psion or PalmPilot do THAT!

Well, technically, I think Windows CE and PalmPilot have http servers.
BUT I BET THEIR FEATURE SETS ARE MINIMAL COMPARED TO THE 200LX WEB
SERVERS.

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Date:         Sat, 24 Apr 1999 01:53:10 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      POST/LX ideas
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Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH> wrote:

> > * Option to show message size (including attachment) in message list.
>
> Would you go for a  v e r y  s l o w  message list to get that? POST/LX
> would have to read through all of the text to provide that information

I thought that your *.i1 index kept track of the offset from
the beginning of the file to the beginning of each message.
So, if this is true, then a simple subtraction of two
consecutive index values would give an indication of the size
of the message there.  Would this work?


Stan

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Date:         Sat, 24 Apr 1999 01:53:07 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      new screen
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Malcolm & Karyn <masfmt@CLEAR.NET.NZ> wrote:

> I have had problems with the screen on my 200lx to the extent that it is now
> unreadable It has lots of lines accross it both verticle and horizontal to
> the extent that it is unreadable.  I did speak with HP in the US about
> obtaning another one which they would send me but the cost was rather high

Contact Thaddeus Computing at www.thaddeus.com because they
repair HP palmtops and also sell used and new and upgraded
models.

The 5000 record limit in the data base is something that is in
the program code and the file structure.  There is no way
around the limit, except to divide the records between several
files.

BTW, records with something in the notes field count as two
records toward that 5000 record limit.


Stan

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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Turbo C and NKIT

A short while ago someone wrote about problems using the Turbo C IDE and
NKIT. Sorry I dont have the original post as there has been a lot of mail
on this list lately.

Anyway... the IDE automatically links in the standard startup files
according to the memory model that you pick. So assuming that you are using
the small memory model, and in OPTIONS/DIRECTORIES the LIB setting is
A:\TC\LIB, IDE automatically links C0S.obj as the first file and links CS.LIB

In order not to use the standard startup file you can use a different LIB
directory with a different C0S.OBJ file in it, or copy your C0S.OBJ over
the standard one. (The first solution is the best).

I dont know if you can use multiple Libraries in the LIB entry but this may
be able to help you save space and not have to have multiple copies of CS.LIB

Give it a try

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Jeff, I am more or less in the same boat as you. I am learning how to set
up Linux on mydesktop at home and one of the first things that I need is of
course some sort of editor. i.e. vi.

I found some very good html pages on Yahoo (www.yahoo.com), specifically
written for newbies,downloaded them straight to my Hp200 and read them with
HV. While reading them, I am writing a list of commands to a database because
I KNOW I will forget them... I have also copied calvin from SUPER in order to
practice a bit.

So IMHO the internet and the gadget in your police car with the coat hanger
hanging out of it :-) are a good place to start.


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 F. Kaufman wrote:
> > Can you tell me how to make POST/LX cleaning my appartment? :-)
>
> Well, when Post informs me thru an email that an international guest (or
> maybe even for a national guest) such as yourself were to be visiting, I
> would be forced to clean my house.  I've entertained Gilles and Erika
> twice.

I did *not* write:

> > Can you tell me how to make POST/LX *forcing me to* clean my appartment? :-)

That's much easier to implement :-)

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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
> I thought that your *.i1 index kept track of the offset from
> the beginning of the file to the beginning of each message.
> So, if this is true, then a simple subtraction of two
> consecutive index values would give an indication of the size
> of the message there.  Would this work?

Might work, at least for an approximation of the size. Will think about that.

BTW, I implemented an "attachment announciator" in the meantime. It
needs to read through the complete message while online, which of
course slows down the online run, but not significantly.

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How do you make blank spaces on the /Palmtop screen?

I'd like to have the top row as disks and common directories, the second row
as PIM utilities, and subsequent rows as .XFE batch files.

How does one set up separate icons for each of the .XFE files?

Thanks!

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Is there a simple DOS command to replace characters in a file?  I have a
bunch of textfiles which have paragraphs separated by two CR's.  I would
like to be able to replace {cr}{cr} with {cr}{cr}{space} so that
VerticalReader can distinguish and insert a blank line at the beginning of
the paragraph rather than running everything together into a single, long,
difficult-to-read block of text.

On my Amiga I can use the program "Change" to accomplish this, but I a less
versed with DOS.

Thanks!

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On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Terrence Chun wrote:

> Is there a simple DOS command to replace characters in a file?  I have
> a bunch of textfiles which have paragraphs separated by two CR's.  I
> would like to be able to replace {cr}{cr} with {cr}{cr}{space} so that
> VerticalReader can distinguish and insert a blank line at the
> beginning of the paragraph rather than running everything together
> into a single, long, difficult-to-read block of text.

I do this with the VR versions of my stories.  But generally I do it right
in WP51 when I'm done, by doing a global search and replace on HRtHRt
and replacing with HRtHRtspacespace.  (Will VR work with a single
space?  I didn't know that.)  I've found "Global replace" to be easier
than finding any specific package to do this.  But if anybody has
suggestions, I'd be only too glad to find out an easier way of doing it.

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Subject:      WTB: Radio Modem

Hello

Hate to waste the bandwidth but I was wondering if anyone had an old
radio modem that works in the 200LX they'd be willing to part with.

Thanks
John

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Terrence Chun wrote:
> Is there a simple DOS command to replace characters in a file?

You may want to try the UNIX clone sed command (if you can cope with
the syntax) or the search and replace function of a text editor (e.g.
PE).

Andreas

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Subject:      Any replacement cases?

I was wondering if there are any replacement cases for the 200LX?
Maybe a brushed anodized aluminum or titanium alloy? Thanks.

John

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On Sat, 24 Apr 1999 02:57:48 +0000, you wrote:

>But the PP used 4 AA batteries and is in an external battery pack.  No =
lights if I remember correctly?

Right

>The 9v Lithium from RS is called Ultralife ($6.99).  I have been using =
this setup for years.  A couple of notes.  The battery is a very tight =
fit, but I always get it in there.  You have to be careful no the pinch =
the tiny wires.  Also I have noticed that after a lot of use as you get =
near the end life you might start getting incompleat online runs before =
the LB(low battery) light comes on.  This is because lithiums tend to run=
 in a higher operating range (like 9.83v new to 8.8v used up).  The LB =
light is waiting for a lower used up alk. reading.

Got one yesterday - thanks,

>If you don't have the Shier custom cable ($30-35) get one.  It makes the=
 whole thing very portable.     =3DBob=3D

I'll drop Dave aa note.  I've got to get him to do another Thumbellina
for use with my Draft Choice CADD software.  Maybe a two for one ...
d8)

Best,

Bill

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Date:         Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:33:35 +0100
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Is installing Software Carousel the only way to run several DOS
programmes simultaneously?

What other options are there? I've got MaxDOS but haven't run it yet.
However, MaxDOS only maximises the available memory of a single DOS
session doesn't it?

I only have less than 200Kb left on the 200LX internal drive so if the
solution involves using part of the disk for task swapping, I guess I'll
need to have a clear out of stuff from my drive.

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Subject:      HP Jouradna 680

Has anybody tried gutting a Journada 680 and putting in the 200LX
motherboard and keyboard? Its seems like a good way to get a color
display.

John

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Subject:      Re: Running multiple DOS apps

> I only have less than 200Kb left on the 200LX internal drive so if the
> solution involves using part of the disk for task swapping, I guess I'll
> need to have a clear out of stuff from my drive.
>
try dosamatic from the SUPER site. It swaps to memory. It works but
you are limited to the 640k since it doesn't use expanded as near as
I can tell.

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Date:         Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:50:25 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:22:06 -0400 (EDT)

05h38m15s ago ...
On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Terrence Chun wrote:

> How do you make blank spaces on the /Palmtop screen?

Hmmm -- I just tried this kludge, and it seems to work.  Use your
favorite editor to create an empty file called (whatever).xfn  and add
it to c:\palmtop (or the .lzh screen definition file if you use it).
On the /Palmtop screen, hit comma, and give the file a blank alias.
(Hey, I didn't say this was a GOOD solution).   <g>  BTW - Don't call
the dummy file _.xfn  That's for long name aliases.

> I'd like to have the top row as disks and common directories, the =
second row
> as PIM utilities, and subsequent rows as .XFE batch files.

If you set up the sort order for /Palmtop to reverse date, the oldest
.xf? files will be first.  You can use this to arrange the order.  You
can use the Attribute/Date/Time function of XF to set a bogus time/date
to move the files.  (Hit +)

You can also go to any drive by hitting the corresponding number (1
for A -- 3 for C etc.)  Commom directories can be set up in the .env
file (under Function key definitions for directory...)  Hit Goto and
the F-key for the directory.  You might find that more convenient -
or maybe not.  8-)

> How does one set up separate icons for each of the .XFE files?

Just pick (or create) an icon you like for each .xfe and give it the
same name as the .xfe (except for the extension).  Then use X-Finder to
copy it to your icon.lzh file.  Then hit F1 (Init) to reinitialize, and
there it is!  There's a collection of icons for XF avaialble on SUPER.

HTH

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Date:         Sat, 24 Apr 1999 07:08:21 -0700
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On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Robert Hocking wrote:

> How does one get the top line, like this message, to read the date &
> person who wrote the message you are responding to?  Is this a feature
> I have been missing in POST/LX, or does one just type it in?  I have
> looked in the manual, but might have overlooked it.

Well, pine puts it in my mail.  Post/LX doesn't do it by default, but
there's a program on D&A's web site, www.dasoft.com, that puts one in.  I
forget what it's called.  Something like POSTH20.ZIP.

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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Replacing characters in file
In-Reply-To:  <199904241112.NAA70330@mail.iprolink.ch> from "Andreas Garzotto"
              at Apr 24, 99 01:12:50 pm
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> Terrence Chun wrote:
> > Is there a simple DOS command to replace characters in a file?
>
> You may want to try the UNIX clone sed command (if you can cope with
> the syntax)

The UNIX-clones of the tr command are better suited to plain character
substitution.


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Subject:      Journada 680 displays--specs??

Does anyone know who maakes or what the specs are on the above???

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Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:15:31 -0400 (EDT)

Hi gang-

I know this has come up here before, but Digi-Key is a great source of
hardware to use with your palmtops!  The latest catalog has the 2mm
connectors for the serial port, Panasonic 1500 mAHr NiMH AA batteries,
bright white LEDs (2300 mcd), heat shrink tubing and just about
anything else you might be looking for for a palmtop project.

Just ordered a bunch of goodies...

You can request a copy of the catalog from:
        http://www.digikey.com

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Hi POST/LX users,

does anybody know what's the minimum internal DOS mmemory (displayed
with Shift F1 in POST/LX) necessary, if I *do not* want to run
POST/LX-setup with this setting?
 (Setup needs 103 KB inside POST/LX to run AFAIK.)

The internal DOS memory may be necessary for list reorganisation,
archiving etc.

I would like to use all available memory with the built in
applications for mail editing (cut/paste and info gathering).

Thanks in advance.

  Hermann

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Date:         Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:49:50 +0200
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> You can request a copy of the catalog from:
>         http://www.digikey.com

Thanks Peniel

I've been trying to remember this companies name.

John

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Date:         Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:45:28 +0200
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From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question

As long as the debate on Post/Lx vs Goin' Postal is kept civiland to the point
it can be very enlightening. By the way, I personally prefer LXTCP & PNR as
they are much more suitable to the way I want to work. For me it is much more
useful to have the email client as an exm file,so that I can easily switch
between reading email and doing other things. A lot of the time I read email
at work while my spare :) (desktop) machine is busy doing something, and then
all of a sudden I need Lotus or HPCalc. In order to do this switching with
WWW/LX or Goin Postal I would ALSO need Software Carousel. IMHO and for MY
NEEDS, this is overkill...



David Becher
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Subject:      Buying parts from HP

Someone mentioned he couldn't get a replacement keyboard from
HP. In case anyone is interested one of the guys at an authorized
service center around here told me that if I needed a part all I
would have to do is bring in the part number and they would order
it, no problem. You might try getting it that way.

John

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Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:44:04 -0400 (EDT)

Hello again, group

Found another X-Finder accessory program on Vector.  This one takes the
place of finderp2 for the older version of XF.  It includes .xfk
(zero byte size) files for all the built-in apps, and a program to
create .xfl (also zero bytes) files for the .EXMs you have in AppMgr
and MoreEXM.

Look for xfp3.lzh

It seems that Vector is now sending cookies...

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In the DOS world these pgms are called search and replace, and there
are many on Simtel and elsewhere.
I wrote and documented the free TexRep (texrep12.zip).
It allows mulitple changes on one pass without having to build a table
of changes file.
In DOS, {cr} is generally encoded as two characters, CR and LF, you may have
to look at your file in hex (List allows this). So, at the DOS prompt:
  texrep \13\10\13\10:\13\10\13\10\32  filename
would do the job. Texrep doesn't work in a W95 Dos window.



Terrence Chun wrote:

> Is there a simple DOS command to replace characters in a file?  I have a
> bunch of textfiles which have paragraphs separated by two CR's.  I would
> like to be able to replace {cr}{cr} with {cr}{cr}{space} so that
> VerticalReader can distinguish and insert a blank line at the beginning of
> the paragraph rather than running everything together into a single, long,
> difficult-to-read block of text.

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Le Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:33:44 -0700
Tim Shephard <pacific@CASTLES.COM> =e9crivait:

> It says it needs 500ma :-(

Even if they said 100mA, it would be too high.

Remember that unlike Flash cards, an hard disk needs to rotate continuously=
,
then it need this current all that time...

And if they add a "sleep mode" (stop running after "x" second without
disk access), I bet it would be at least #one# second to get the
operational speed.

Then, if you are working on an application where you make a disk access
all "x+1" seconds, you will have a disk with #one# second of access time.
:-(


A+ Jacques.
------------------------------
Le dernier administrateur du web "altern"atif se trouvait chez lui..
On frappa =e0 la porte...
------------ Une histoire de Fredric Brown revue par Estelle Hallyday.
---------------------------- La r=e9sistance est sur http://altern.org/defe=
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 Im thinking of using my 200LX for sorta a weird portable networking
project. Question is can the 200LX be turned on by serial or IRDA (wakeup
command) or does it need to be turned on by the ON button ?? the unit
would be closed at all times when in use.. so thats why the strange
question ???

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              Paul <pmooney@ONYX.OCTACON.CO.UK>
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Hi David,

have you looked at the text editor Joe - less complex than vi and
readily available (you've probably got it already)

Paul

David Becher wrote:
>
> Jeff, I am more or less in the same boat as you. I am learning how to set
> up Linux on mydesktop at home and one of the first things that I need is of
> course some sort of editor. i.e. vi.
>

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Subject:      Re: Weird Question

Sputnik writes:
>  Im thinking of using my 200LX for sorta a weird portable networking
> project. Question is can the 200LX be turned on by serial or IRDA (wakeup
> command) or does it need to be turned on by the ON button ?? the unit
> would be closed at all times when in use.. so thats why the strange
> question ???

Sure can. Activity at the serial port will wake it up from a deep sleep.

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From:         Mike Little <Mike@AMPERSOFT.CO.UK>
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Subject:      Re: Screen light. Source in UK?
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On 23 Apr 99, at 12:17, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

>Hi,
>
>> In the Thaddeus catalog(ue), they advertise a small torch which clips on
>> the side of the HP screen. It has a goose-neck arm which wraps around the
>> body of the torch when not in use.
>>
>> Q. Does anybody know of a source for this torch in the UK?

I got one very similar in the Gadget(?) Shop in the new Trafford Centre in
Manchester. I believe the Gadget Shop have branches elsewhere in England.
The cost was 4GBP (four pounds).
I think this is the same as the one mentioned by Daniel (below).

They are NOT the same as the ones sold by Thaddeus. They don't clip on to the edge of
the screen as well. I generally tend to just stand it at the side of the HP on the
few occasions I have used it.

>i
>Sorry, not in UK, but in Germany: Conrad Electronic sells them, too.
>Maybe you find it with a look at www.conrad.de.
>They cost a few DM (3 DM, if I recall right).
>
>But I find this light not very useful, because of the arm that's
>not solid enough and the need of external battery.
>
>I've made my own solution for lightning the LX's screen, which uses
>the palmtop-internal batteries, is lighter than the "flexlite"
>and more solid: look at
>www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html
>
>There I described how to make it.
>
>GTX
>daniel
>


Mike


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David Becher wrote:

> all of a sudden I need Lotus or HPCalc. In order to do this switching with
> WWW/LX or Goin Postal I would ALSO need Software Carousel. IMHO and for MY
> NEEDS, this is overkill...

I regularly read/reply to e-mail in Sysmanager using POST/LX - like now
with HP Calc open - yup I just had a look and then came back here to
MEMO.

But, to go online I hit Fn+F1 and launch WWW and POST/LX. BTW of course
Fn+F1 brings up your fantastic 200MNU!! :)

Regards, Tony

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Date:         Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:20:26 EDT
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From:         Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      FLUFFMore...In search of 200lx replacement

I bumped into the following page during a search for floppy-based Linux
systems.

        http://www.calcaria.net

I think it fits some of the discussion regarding the Psion, the future
demise of the HP200lx, and Minix.  The people behind this webpage are
porting Linux to the ARM chip used in the Psion 5 and the Geofox.  I
don't know much about the stuff but they have some screenshots that
inspire reflection.

Larry Zimmerman

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Date:         Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:10:43 +0000
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              b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Bob Newins <b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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> Is installing Software Carousel the only way to run several DOS
> programmes simultaneously?

Yes


> What other options are there? I've got MaxDOS but haven't run it yet.
> However, MaxDOS only maximises the available memory of a single DOS
> session doesn't it?

Yes

> I only have less than 200Kb left on the 200LX internal drive so if the
> solution involves using part of the disk for task swapping, I guess =
I'll
> need to have a clear out of stuff from my drive.

Yes

Sounds like it's time for an 8 or 32 meg C: drive upgrade.  Software =
Carousel works best (fast switching times 1 second if you can run it =
all from the C: drive.  Contct Thomas Rundel in Germany.       =3DBob=3D

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On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Bob Newins wrote:

> > Is installing Software Carousel the only way to run several DOS
> > programmes simultaneously?
>
> Yes

Well, there are other programs, like DOS Shell, that will also task swap.
Software Carousel currently seems to be the best for palmtop use, though.

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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 04-24 08:10pm CDT, the following was written:

> > Is installing Software Carousel the only way to run several DOS
> > programmes simultaneously?

No, you could use DOSshell

73 Jeff <--- tired for day one of Talladega

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Folks,

HP etc knows we'er still here. In fact here is a direct assult I
received in my e-mail!

webmaster@mobileplanet.com in its April 1999 issue wrote :

> -- Trade-Up To The New HP Jornadas
> AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET:
> TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS!
>
> For a limited time, MobilePlanet and HP is offering an opportunity to qualified owners of HP DOS Palmtop computers, to trade-up to the dynamic new Windows CE HP Jornada line of PC Companions.
>
> Provide your DOS palmtop serial number and get one of the
> special Jornada Offers available from MobilePlanet
> http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/
> This offer is for a limited time -- April 1, 1999 to October 31,
> 1999.  Limit one HP Jornada product per HP DOS Palmtop.  Valid
> only in the USA. More Information can be found at
> http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/

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--- begin #2 of 2 of forwarded message ---

>>> Continued from part 1...AJKind <<<


In AC analysis complex voltage, current, impedance and power can be
calculated as well as Nyquist diagrams and the Bode diagrams of the
amplitude, phase and group delay characteristics the can be plotted.
In case of non-linear networks the operating point linearization is
done automatically.

The noise analysis determines the noise spectrum with respect to
either the input or the output. The noise power and the signal-to-
noise ratio (SNR) can also be calculated.

The symbolic anaiysis produces the transfer function and the closed
form expression of a response in linear networks in DC, AC and tran-
sient modes alike. The exact solution calculated through symbolic
analysis can also be plotted and compared to the numerically calcu-
lated or measured results. The built-in interpreter can evaluate
and plot arbitrary functions. Through the symbolic analysis poles
and zeros of linear circuits can also be calculated or plotted.

Tolerances can also be assigned to the circuit elements to be used
in Monte-Carlo and/or worst-case analyses. Results can be obtained
statistically as well, their expected means, standard deviations
and yields can also be calculated.

Electric responses (voltage,current,power) plot-able as functions
of arbitrary circuit parameters including the ambient temperature.
Unknown circuit parameters can be determined automatically so that
the network can produce a predefined target value (optimization).
Beside the electronic circuit design the optimization is an ideal
teaching aid to construct examples and problems.

Educational applications are facilitated through special display
options as voltage, ampere, impedance, admittance and power meters.
TiNA's special educational function is the software or hardware
simulation of circuit faults to practise troubteshooting.

TINA has two special operation modes serving for exercising and
examination, respectively. In these modes, under TINA's control,
the students have to solve problems assorted by the teacher. The
solutions depend on the types of problems: they can either be
selected from a list or have to be calculated numerically or
given in symbolic form. If the student can not solve the problem he
/ she can turn to the multilevel advisor. The package includes
all the tools needed to produce educational material. A collection
of examples and problems worked out by practising teachers is also
part of the package.

The minimum hardware configuration is:
- IBM PC XT/AT/PS2 or compatible with 640 kB of RAM and hard drive
- VGA/EGA/CGA/Hercules adapter card and monitor
Mouse and math co-processor (FPU) are recommended add-on
AT or 386 compatibles with more than 1MB RAM are recommended.

Suplementary hardware:
- TINALab Data acquisition card with multimeter, oscilloscope and
  signal generator functions realized on a standard ISA bus card.
- ExtBox experimenter box to assemble prototype circuits and measure
  and diagnose demonstrating circuits through 16 channels. These
  circuits are connected to the Experimenter box through an open
  interface. According to this concept the educational institutions
  can develop their own demonstrating circuits and measurement
  schemes to be connected to the system.
  (Without ExtBox, the TINALab card will have only one I/O channel)
- FaultGen expansion card (to the experimenter box) to insert faults
  into the the tested electronic circuits.
- Demonstration circuits to illustrate operation of basic electronic
  circuits. Demonstration circuits can automaticalty recongnized and
  displayed after connecting them to the experimenter box.

Developer: DesignSoft, Csengery u. 53, H-1067, Budapest, Hungary
                               * END *

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--- begin part 1 of forwarded message ---

From- "Tamas Feher" <E-TOMCAT@sc.bme.hu>

Date-    Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:04:20 +02.00 MET-DST
Subject- Palmtop Circuit and Tina for DOS, making things clear (long).

    Hello all!

Now, I hope these instructions will clear up any confusion
about electric circuit analysis programs Palmtop Circuit and
Tina_for_DOS; probably caused by list digest automaton mixing
up my previous postings. Please DO follow this order:

To get full picture, FIRST read the Palmtop Circuit report at:
 <http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/hypermail/digest/0045.html>
Title: Palmtop Circuit success. Will be 1st mail in the digest.

THEN read my brief description of Tina for DOS v2.6, at:
 <http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/hypermail/digest/0044.html>
Title: What TINA for DOS ver2 is? Will be 13th mail in digest.

FINALLY, go on reading this mail, below is the text of an old
advertisement broschure of Tina for DOS v2.5  (scanned + OCR)

                    Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

                   **********************
TINA for DOS version 2.5 - Toolkit for Interactive Network Analysis

TINA is a powerful computer-based learning, training and design
software that enables simulation, analysis, virtual or real time
measurements as well as troubleshooting of linear and nonlinear
analog electronic circuits.

TINA can serve as affordable trainer of students at educational
institutes or as a professional tool for circuit analyis at
academia or industry. Its outstanding demonstrating functions,
which include symbolic analysis as well as comparison of theore-
tical and measured results provide excellent effectiveness in
education and individual study of electronics.

The circuit diagrams are designed by an easy to use schematic
editor. Element symbols chosen from a menu or component catalog
can be positioned, moved, rotated and/or mirrored on the screen by
the mouse or keyboard control keys. An extensive semiconductor
catalog is provided which allows the user to select the required
semiconductor components from a user extendable library.

TINA also provides a built-in text processor to add text to the
circuit diagrams or to the calculation and measurement results. It
is an invaluable aid to teachers preparing problems and illust-
rations, editing example collections.

The circuit diagrams and the calculated or Measured results can be
printed out or saved into files in several standard formats (DXF,
PCX, HPGL, PostScript). These output flies can be processed by a
number of well known software packages (AutoCAD, Ventura Publisher,
Wordperfect, Microsoft Word, Paintbrush, Corel Draw etc.). Circuit
diagrams can be also exported to OrCAD for PCB design.

The DC analysis calculates DC operating point and the transfer
characteristic. The user can display the calculated and/or measured
nodal voltages at any node by selecting it with the cursor.

In transient analysis mode the input wave-form can be selected from
several options (pulse, unit step, sinusoid, triangular wave, square
wawe and general trapezoidal waweform) parametrized as required. In
addition to the calculation and display of responses, coefficients
of the Fourler series and harmonic distortion for periodic signals
as well as the Fourier spectrum of non-periodic signals can also be
calculated.


>>> Continued in Part 2 ...AJkind <<<

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Date:         Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:26:57 +0000
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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In my opinion, Software Carousel is the best task switcher for use on the
palmtop if you want automatic use of system manager and the built-in apps
in addition to multiple DOS programs, but only if you do not need a cut &
paste capability.

If you don't need system manager, other options include:
- MS DOSShell.
- WordPerfect Shell (also with some other WordPerfect Corp products; i.e,
DrawPerfect, WordPerfect Office,  perhaps DataPerfect).  (May have cut &
paste)
- Switch-It (has cut & paste).
- Back and Forth.
- DOSamatic.
- Caldera DOS 7.0x has a task-switcher.

There are many others.

I prefer SC and am using it now on the palmtop for the reason stated above.
 But I'm considering switching to the non-palmtop SC version, WordPerfect
Shell, or Switch-it for the cut & paste features if they will run on the
palmtop.


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At 02:33 PM 4/24/99 +0100, Dr Peter Maddern wrote:
>Is installing Software Carousel the only way to run several DOS
>programmes simultaneously?
>
>What other options are there? I've got MaxDOS but haven't run it yet.

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Date:         Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:46:31 -0700
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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>
> Malcolm & Karyn <masfmt@CLEAR.NET.NZ> wrote:
>
> > I have had problems with the screen on my 200lx to the extent that it is now
> > unreadable It has lots of lines accross it both verticle and horizontal to
> > the extent that it is unreadable.  I did speak with HP in the US about
> > obtaning another one which they would send me but the cost was rather high
>
> Contact Thaddeus Computing at www.thaddeus.com because they
> repair HP palmtops and also sell used and new and upgraded
> models.
>
> The 5000 record limit in the data base is something that is in
> the program code and the file structure.  There is no way
> around the limit, except to divide the records between several
> files.
>
> BTW, records with something in the notes field count as two
> records toward that 5000 record limit.
>
> Stan
>
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Stan!! I too had screen problems. I sent my unit to THADDEUS COMPUTING
they replace
my screen for under $200.00. HP is a little costly.

                                   Bob1

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Tony,

> Fred K wrote:
>
> > To=3DHPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> > Box=3DMail
>
> Looks fine to me. I don't know, maybe press ENTER after the EDU> and
> then delete the new blank line. Maybe a sort of hard CR might help?

Thank you again! This message was picked up also with robot. So To
works also.

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Sun, 25 Apr 1999 04:44:21 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Rom

Does anyone know if the rom licensing is like a regular software
license? If a person bought a 200LX and copied the rommed software
to a differant machine then stopped using the 200LX and just used
the rom software on the new machine, would that be legal?

John

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Date:         Sun, 25 Apr 1999 05:06:48 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Rom

John Musielewicz writes:
> Does anyone know if the rom licensing is like a regular software
> license? If a person bought a 200LX and copied the rommed software
> to a differant machine then stopped using the 200LX and just used
> the rom software on the new machine, would that be legal?

Hmm, I answered my own question by looking in the manual<g>. Yes you
can. A person can run it on any one machine, make backup copies,
and modify it to suit their purposes. So when there's a motherboard
upgrade the rommed software can be copied to the new board and
modified to work there. As long as a person just runs it on one
machine its perfectly legal.

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Subject:      Re: Running multiple DOS apps
Comments: To: "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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In <3.0.6.32.19990425012657.00a30d20@mailhub.exis.net>, on 04/25/99 at
01:26 AM,
   "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET> said:

> But I'm considering switching to the non-palmtop SC version, WordPerfect
>Shell, or Switch-it for the cut & paste features if they will run on the
>palmtop.

Don,
I used SC for years on various PCs, but am not using it on the 200lx for
lack of C: drive swapspace. Whatever happened to the Snip and Snap cuting
and pasting utility that came with SC? Does it not work on the 200lx or
does it just not come with the current version? Both of my copies are v.
6.something. Snip and Snap worked great and could be run in with multiple
configurations for formatting text. Charles

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>>is there a way to replace CR/LF characters in a file?

Try the XLATE program, available on the SUPER site. I've tried several su=
ch
global search and replace commands and XLATE is the fastest. =


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Date:         Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:56:39 -0400
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On 4/23/99, at 8:26 PM, Malcolm & Karyn wrote, in part:

>I have had problems with the screen on my 200lx to the extent that it is
now
>unreadable.
>
>It has lots of lines accross it both verticle and horizontal to the extent
>that it is unreadable.
>
>I did speak with HP in the US about obtaning another one which they would
>send me but the cost was rather high.
>
> SNIP
>
>The question i have is does some one know where i can get a cheap screen
>from or does some one have a broke LX with a good screen that i could
>purchase from them to get me going as i have rather major withdrawl
>symptions.

<Laughing> You and I need to get together and convince somebody to sell us
their old LX... I have a good screen and need a motherboard, you have a
good motherboard and need a screen... and neither of *us* want to give up
our half-LXs!

Seriously, if you or someone nearby is good with hardware, you might want
to check something before you ship it off OR buy a screen.

The LCD screen just sits against its connector; there is a compressible pad
behind the connector that has sticky gunk on it to hold it in place.  What
I've found is that, in some machines, the gunk can migrate in between the
connector and the LCD, resulting in a deteriorating display.  You *may* be
able to confirm a connection problem; try squeezing or pressing on the left
side of the bezel, just left of the display.  If your lines go away or even
change in any way, the odds are good that's where the problem is.

In my case, the problem surfaced when my 200LX fell out of my pocket during
a desperate airport shuttle dash.   Apparently it jarred the LCD and
connector apart for an instant, and that was all it took for the gunk to
get sucked in there and cause problems.  I carefully took my machine apart
and cleaned off the gunk (Goof-Off or something like that would probably be
best; I used fingernail polish remover (acetone?) because that was all I
had available at the time).  When I put it back together the display worked
fine, and has been okay since (a couple of months now).

It's a bit delicate in there, but if you're considering swapping the LCD
module anyway, it's probably worth pulling it apart and checking first.
Just clean the contacts gently but well, then put it back together and see
if you've helped the situation.

Good luck,
Rick

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Isn't that pretty much what EMU-48 (the emulator for the HP48) does?
AFAIK the EMU people are quite faithful to the idea that you dump
_your own_ copy of the 48Rom that then loads into EMU running under
Win95 or NT, giving you---in effect---a 48 on your Windows machine.

John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if the rom licensing is like a regular software
> license? If a person bought a 200LX and copied the rommed software
> to a differant machine then stopped using the 200LX and just used
> the rom software on the new machine, would that be legal?
>
> John
>

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Hermann Kellinghaus <Herm.Kellinghaus@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> I would like to use all available memory with the built in
> applications for mail editing (cut/paste and info gathering)

One tip that I give to people running WWW/LX Plus under System
Manager is to make not run Post from an icon in AppMgr.  This
is because then you use the icon to launch a program, the
AppMgr application remains in RAM taking up a few 17K of RAM.
You should also look into the program to close Filer and free
up 58K of RAM.

It would be best to use something like Ctrl-Lotus to shell to
a DOS box and then just run the POST.EXE program directly
from the command line.  Now just use the Setup app
(Ctrl-Filer) Advanced otions to adjust the size of the DOS box
to be only as big as you need to run just the POST.EXE
program.  Don't load WWW.EXE first and don't run Post's SETUP
program from inside Post.  THis would be the smallest RAM hit
you would have to just run the Post program for reading and
writing replies to messages.

Going online would be another matter.  You can use an icon in
AppMgr for that because it would not be a big deal to have to
close down you SysMgr apps (and it's probably a good idea) in
order to go online with WWW.EXE and POST.EXE (and maybe
NEWS2.EXE).


Stan

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Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH> wrote:

> Might work, at least for an approximation of the size. Will think about that.
>
> BTW, I implemented an "attachment announciator" in the meantime. It
> needs to read through the complete message while online, which of
> course slows down the online run, but not significantly

I would think that even an approximate size would be more
useful thn nothing.

But for the attachement indicator, the Post program will have
to analyze the message while online?  How about checking for
attachments while doing the indexing.  This will also be
important because it will notice when an attachment was
stripped off and when Ctrl-R is used.


Stan

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David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> > How does one get the top line, like this message, to read the date &
> > person who wrote the message you are responding to?  Is this a feature
> > I have been missing in POST/LX, or does one just type it in?  I have
> > looked in the manual, but might have overlooked it

I have a macro in PE that goes into the original message,
finds the From: and then copy/pastes it into the beginning of
my new message.  Works great.  See above.  I think it is good
because it helps the author of the original message notice
that there is a reply to him or her.  I don't see the need
for the time information.


Stan

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Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU> wrote:

> I understand the wait states etc and agree that no CPU speed increase
> happens.  It "appears" to increase the speed.  Although the snake oil is
> very apparent after real world testing ...
> With turbocpu time was 38.4 secs  without was 35.6 averages ...
> Same test on a DS8M was 19.4 secs.
> The only disadvantage I have found when using this tsr is that the comm port
> wont connect unless I run normcpu or remove the prog.
> Curiously I found another glitch using Turbo..  Stopwatch ran SLOWER when
> turbo installed. 30Secs RT measured 22.1 on the turboed machine

RIGHT!   Exactly my point.  TurboCPU messes around with wait
states and other stuff like that to free up a few CPU cycles
here and there while sacrificing some of the hardware
functionality.  And this is also why official benchmarks get
confused because they assume the basic timebase is correct and
it is not while TurboCPU is running.


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Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK> wrote:

> Is installing Software Carousel the only way to run several DOS
> programmes simultaneously?

The palmtop cannot run multiple programs SIMULTANEOUSLY.  It
can only run one program at a time.  SC allows multiple
programs to be loaded at the same time and task switching
between them.  This puts the other programs to sleep while the
single program in the foreground runs.  The sleeping program
get no server from the CPU whatsoever.

MaxDOS is a task switcher like SC, but MaxDOS handles only one
session while SC can have many.

Yes, you will need some more free space on your C: drive to
make either of these task switching programs work effectively.
 SC can put it's swap space on the A: drive, but it is much
slower than C:.


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> Stanley Dobrowski answered:
>
> > I would like to use all available memory with the built in
> > applications for mail editing (cut/paste and info gathering)
>
> One tip that I give to people running WWW/LX Plus under System
> Manager is to make not run Post from an icon in AppMgr.
>
I start it with an icon in AppMgr, but .. (see below)

> This is because then you use the icon to launch a program, the
> AppMgr application remains in RAM taking up a few 17K of RAM.
>
after Post/LX has started, I go back to AppMgr and close it with ESC
and the 17K RAM are free again (check it; actually I use a macro for
both steps.)

> You should also look into the program to close Filer and free
> up 58K of RAM.
>
Of course.

> It would be best to use something like Ctrl-Lotus to shell to
> a DOS box and then just run the POST.EXE program directly
> from the command line. ....
>
Not necessary (as I think, see above).

Currently I'm running POST/LX with 80KB internal DOS memory, so that
I can use two EXM's aditionally (Memo and another one f.ex.).

Is there anybody having experience with less than 80KB?

Thanks for dealing with this subject.

 Hermann

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 > Does anyone know if the rom licensing is like a regular software
 > license? If a person bought a 200LX and copied the rommed software
 > to a differant machine then stopped using the 200LX and just used
 > the rom software on the new machine, would that be legal?

 Unfortunately I think the issue is mute since you can't run the ROM on any
other machine due to the register differences in the CPU controls.

Cheers,
Mack

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>>Whatever happened to the Snip and Snap cuting and pasting utility that
came with SC?

My understanding is that this feature was sacrificed since it conflicted
with some of the features in the LX's Sys Mgr.  The workaround is to use
the clipvue program which lets you clip and save to disk in one session a=
nd
import the clipboard file in another session. =


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> and modify it to suit their purposes. So when there's a motherboard
> upgrade the rommed software can be copied to the new board and
> modified to work there. As long as a person just runs it on one
> machine its perfectly legal.

Unfortunately you couldn't modify it either as that would involve reverse
engineering the ROM.

Any new motherboard will have to contain new software or at least an OS so
that a person can load their own software into it.  Moving the ROM code from
the 200LX into a new motherboard will never happen so I really don't want
folks thinking that it is even a possibility.

Cheers,
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h_e_guenther@CSI.COM Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:
> Thank you again! This message was picked up also with robot. So To
> works also.

Seems so, however it would be better to not "reply" to messages from
the beta group to the list ;-)

Andreas

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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
> But for the attachement indicator, the Post program will have
> to analyze the message while online?  How about checking for
> attachments while doing the indexing.

It then would have to write the information back to the file, which
then would have been re-indexed again...

Andreas

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After going to this site mentioned by Patrick West
(http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/) I noticed that while the 2 Meg 200lx is
for sale, there is no mention of the 4 Meg unit.  Has it been discontinued?
Or is it just not for sale directly from HP?  I also noticed that none of
the 200lx accessories were listed.  Looks like we are a little further down
the slippery slope.
bob

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>Hi David,
>
>have you looked at the text editor Joe - less complex than vi and
>readily available (you've probably got it already)
>
>Paul

Wow. That suggestion brought back memories. I remember, as a non-college
student, finding my way from the free U of H online library system in
Honolulu through the UHCARL system to the Cleveland Freenet, back when
the internet was generally accessed via a Unix shell account. (In Hawaii,
at that time, we had no other affordable way to access the internet.)
From there, we could go almost anywhere we wanted to go by telneting to
the Buffalo Freenet and going from there.

Well anyway, the Cleveland Freenet offered the "Joe" editor as an
alternate editor for those who established a free account. I tried
installing it and my account never worked after that. I wasn't able to
change the editor back to another, even with the aid of the help desk, so
I eventually ended up opening a new account and starting over. I never
did get a chance to try out the "Joe" editor.

It always sounded like a nice editor though. Is there a DOS version of
the Joe editor now?

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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>>  Im thinking of using my 200LX for sorta a weird portable networking
>> project. Question is can the 200LX be turned on by serial or IRDA
(wakeup
>> command) or does it need to be turned on by the ON button ?? the unit
>> would be closed at all times when in use.. so thats why the strange
>> question ???
>
>Sure can. Activity at the serial port will wake it up from a deep sleep.

Ah.. I asked a similar question a while back and didn't get a reply. Yes,
sure enough... I just turned off the HP200LX node on my network, made
that drive the local drive on my desktop, and then did a directory
listing. It sprang to life and gave the directory listing just fine. :-)

BTW, has anyone else noticed that upon turning on their HP200LX or upon
backing out of a MaxDOS controlled DOS program, it sometimes
automatically jumps to a screen where there is a dialog box over the
apptbook day view waiting for an "OK"? After hitting enter, the dialog
box disappears leaving me at the apptbook day view where I must hit menu
and Q to get back to the "&...More" application launch screen again. I
don't even use the apptbook on my HP200LX, so it's just a mite
irritating.

If you have noticed this in the past, how have you trained your HP200LX
to behave itself? <g>

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, John J Vanderstel wrote:

> It always sounded like a nice editor though. Is there a DOS version of
> the Joe editor now?

Well, Joe is a clone of WordStar, so if you've used that or have a copy,
you'll know what Joe is like.

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08h33m57s ago ...
On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, C.W. Bradley wrote:


>    "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET> said:
>
> > But I'm considering switching to the non-palmtop SC version, WordPerfe=
ct
> >Shell, or Switch-it for the cut & paste features if they will run on =
the
> >palmtop.
>
> Don,
> I used SC for years on various PCs, but am not using it on the 200lx =
for
> lack of C: drive swapspace. Whatever happened to the Snip and Snap =
cuting
> and pasting utility that came with SC?...

     I tried SnipNSnap a while back on my 200LX. As I recall iw worked,
but not too well. From what I remember:

1) You must load the COMMAND.COM from a "full version" of MSDOS 5.0
2) It chewed up alot of conventional memory (50-60k?)

I determined at the time that it wasn't very practical in my situation.


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Date:         Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:01:31 +0000
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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Charles,

I tried using (on the palmtop) the Snip and Snap (S&S) cut & paste program
from non-palmtop SC 6.0 with the palmtop version of SC.  S&S worked great
on the desktop but I couldn't get S&S to work well with the palmtop
version. Like Al Kind just suggested, I loaded a full DOS 5.0 command.com
before loading S&S.

Right now the cut & paste feature is more important to me than the system
manager apps, so I'll try the non-palmtop SC version.  (I prefer to run
apps that can be used on both the palmtop and desktop so I can avoid the
data file conversion trouble.)

Hal Goldstein from Thaddeus <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> provided some
comments related to this issue during the past few weeks.  I've added
extracts of his comments below your note.

Don

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At 06:56 AM 4/25/99 -0400, Charles Bradley wrote:
>   "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET> said:
>> But I'm considering switching to the non-palmtop SC version, WordPerfect
>>Shell, or Switch-it for the cut & paste features if they will run on the
>>palmtop.
>
>Don,
>I used SC for years on various PCs, but am not using it on the 200lx for
>lack of C: drive swapspace. Whatever happened to the Snip and Snap cuting
>and pasting utility that came with SC? Does it not work on the 200lx or
>does it just not come with the current version? Both of my copies are v.
>6.something. Snip and Snap worked great and could be run in with multiple
>configurations for formatting text. Charles
============================================

Hal Goldstein on Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:42:16:

"For those that don't know the history of Software Carousel and our
(Thaddeus Computing) involvement, here goes. About two years ago, the
authors of SC went out of business and no one could buy the product.
Especially with our memory upgrades, I thought SC was a great product."

"I did a search on the web for the SC authors and contacted him and her.
To make a long story short, the authors made some bug fixes, and we
purchased the rights to distribute the product, but they don't support
it.  Thanks to HPHAND and this group there is excellent support
available from experienced users. I appreciate everyone's support on the
product, as it allows us to sell it and feel that our customers are
supported."

=====

Hal Goldstein on Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:23:16:

"The authors of the Software Carousel program (formerly Sunshine) still
have code and made changes for version 7. We have the rights to sell it
for a couple of years. To make changes I would have to go back to the
authors, and their fee is VERY expensive."

=====

Hal Goldstein on Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:32:19:

"The best (workable but clumsy) solution is CLIPVUE found on SUPER -
www.palmtop.net."

"I have talked to the authors about cut and paste. Unfortunately, this
would be a VERY expensive update.  I think Avi may know more of the
details, but the PC version does support cut and paste.  However, the
authors apparently had to remove this feature to gain other Palmtop
functionality when they ported the application to the palmtop."

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On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Don E. Weatherly wrote:

> Right now the cut & paste feature is more important to me than the
> system manager apps, so I'll try the non-palmtop SC version.  (I
> prefer to run apps that can be used on both the palmtop and desktop so
> I can avoid the data file conversion trouble.)

I just wonder if any of the cut and paste apps are really useful.  DOS
applications aren't like Windows apps, where there's a universal way of
selecting things for copy and paste.  As far as I can reason, any DOS
cut-and-paste TSR would be limited to selecting whatever is displayed on
the screen.  I don't know if that's how it works, but personally if I was
going to copy and paste between work areas I'd want to be able to select
more than just what's on the screen at the time-- say, a full block of
text, or something.

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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Mack Baggette wrote:

>  > Does anyone know if the rom licensing is like a regular software
>  > license? If a person bought a 200LX and copied the rommed software
>  > to a differant machine then stopped using the 200LX and just used
>  > the rom software on the new machine, would that be legal?
>
>  Unfortunately I think the issue is mute since you can't run the ROM on any
> other machine due to the register differences in the CPU controls.

What about an emulator?


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Date:         Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:40:29 -0700
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              Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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Okay, I'm stumped.

How do you use Memo as the default editor?

I've set up my finder.env to show:
#Editor setting
%e    ,0    ,$m {xB800}{f9}

which starts Memo just fine, and opens the Open requester, but when I try to
have it send %p%c as the file to open, it only inserts 12 characters (I
know that $m is limited to a 15 character buffer).

Also, when it opens the Open requester, it inserts a space into the filename
line.  I can't figure out where this comes from.

I have tried to have the finder.env do:
$c %p%c;{xB800}{f9}{paste}{enter}

which works fine unless I try to use "F7-Custom" from X-finder, because it
starts whatever file my cursor was on.

Help!

Thanks.

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So, the reduction in wait states is not a real speed-up?  Or is it a
speed-up but insignificant and not worth the "snake oil" taste?

(and this reply is really a test of using and REPLYING to hplist from
the newsgroup on Dave's server.  And I failed the first time since the
list rejected the email address I used to generate this reply - now
let's see!)

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I'm using my HP200LX for a lot of things - but:

My messages to this list are currently generated on my PC using
Outlook98.

This seems to be a 'no no' for several list members - meanwhile I
believe they just don't read/answer bacause of this.

Is this true?

 Hermann

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On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Hermann Kellinghaus wrote:

> I'm using my HP200LX for a lot of things - but:
>
> My messages to this list are currently generated on my PC using
> Outlook98.
>
> This seems to be a 'no no' for several list members - meanwhile I
> believe they just don't read/answer bacause of this.
>
> Is this true?

Not as far as I know. What bothers many people (including me) is messages
posted in HTML. Your message wasn't HTML, so it doesn't annoy me.


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I too use Outlook97, with Word as my editor, whenever I post to
this list from my work PC.

If that is a problem, someone let me know and I won't post from
work (unless it's an "emergency").

(This message was written from home using Outlook Express.)

Steve
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> I'm using my HP200LX for a lot of things - but:
>
> My messages to this list are currently generated on my PC using
> Outlook98.
>
> This seems to be a 'no no' for several list members - meanwhile I
> believe they just don't read/answer bacause of this.
>
> Is this true?
>
>  Hermann
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Date:         Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:47:49 +0000
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At 12:10 PM 4/25/99 -0700, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:
>I just wonder if any of the cut and paste apps are really useful.

They are if you don't want to (or are unable to easily/quickly) go the file
conversion route.  They are much better than re-keying the same info into a
second app.

>DOS applications aren't like Windows apps, where there's a universal way of
>selecting things for copy and paste.  As far as I can reason, any DOS
>cut-and-paste TSR would be limited to selecting whatever is displayed on
>the screen.

The cut & paste DOS utilities I've used permitted you to copy (somtimes
cut) an entire screenful of text that you had blocked.  Granted, it is not
as effective as Windoze in this area (no flames, please, just stating the
facts) since Windoze will permit you to cut/copy & paste multiple screens
of blocked information in one operation for Windoze apps.  But being able
to copy & paste up to one full screen of text at one time is better than
the inability to do it at all, which seems to be the situation we have now
with the HP200LX if you are using DOS .EXE/.COM apps.

>I don't know if that's how it works, but personally if I was
>going to copy and paste between work areas I'd want to be able to select
>more than just what's on the screen at the time-- say, a full block of
>text, or something.

Sounds like you are pushing Windoze <g>.  Seriously, being able to copy
text blocks larger than one screen is what I'd like to do, too, but I've
not yet tried to run Windoze & apps (versions less than Win v 3.1) on my
palmtop.  Since I'm sticking with my palmtop and DOS apps for the time
being, I'd like to at least have the same cut & paste capabilities as I
have on my desktops or laptops when running DOS apps.

Non-palmtop DOS versions of Software Carousel, Switch-It, and (I think)
WordPerfect Shell have the cut & paste capability built-in.

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Date:         Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:07:48 +0200
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Hi dear palmtoppers,
surfin' on the jap-side of the hplx world I've found this page:

http://www2.osk.threewebnet.or.jp/~fjw/hp200lx.html

where u can find some nice piece of software.

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Quinton
Which program on Super converts exe, com and bat files to exm files?
Thanks
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              "Laust Brock-Nannestad" at Apr 25, 99 09:15:51 pm
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> >  > Does anyone know if the rom licensing is like a regular software
> >  > license? If a person bought a 200LX and copied the rommed software
> >  > to a differant machine then stopped using the 200LX and just used
> >  > the rom software on the new machine, would that be legal?
> >
> >  Unfortunately I think the issue is mute since you can't run the ROM on any
> > other machine due to the register differences in the CPU controls.

I think the intent of the question intially was to swap his ROM from a
busted machine on a new motherboard.  The reason, as I understood it, was
to maintain a particular country version of the ROM that he liked (apparently
the new motherboard was of different country than desired).



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kropla.com for comms standards

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Sometimes I use a program called DOSCLIP from Simtel.  In the days when I
used to go SimTel daily and test all the different DOS programs, I found
DOSCLIP to be the most stable program of all.  But I also found they *all*
eventually froze the computer, depending on the TSR's loaded at the time.
I did not notice so much freezing perhaps because I would use it only as
long as I sat in front of the desktop, but with the never ending use of a
sesion caused by the instant-on feature of the palmtop, I have noticed the
freezing a lot more frecuently, thereby causing me to use it less.

If anybody wants to write a new palmtop application, it should be a
dosclip-type application that works with DOS and Sysmgr programs, does not
freeze the palmtop, and uses as little memory as DOSCLIP for DOS from
Simtel,  IMHO.  Any takers?

Domingo

-----Original Message-----
From: Don E. Weatherly <weather@EXIS.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Running multiple DOS apps


>At 12:10 PM 4/25/99 -0700, David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:
>>I just wonder if any of the cut and paste apps are really useful.
>
>They are if you don't want to (or are unable to easily/quickly) go the file
>conversion route.  They are much better than re-keying the same info into a
>second app.

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Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de (Hermann Kellinghaus) wrote:

> I start it with an icon in AppMgr, but ...
> after Post/LX has started, I go back to AppMgr and close it with ESC
> and the 17K RAM are free again (check it; actually I use a macro for
> both steps.)

Good thinking.


Stan

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John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> BTW, has anyone else noticed that upon turning on their HP200LX or upon
> backing out of a MaxDOS controlled DOS program, it sometimes
> automatically jumps to a screen where there is a dialog box over the
> apptbook day view waiting for an "OK"? After hitting enter, the dialog
> box disappears leaving me at the apptbook day view where I must hit menu
> and Q to get back to the "&...More" application launch screen again. I
> don't even use the apptbook on my HP200LX, so it's just a mite
> irritating

Oddly enough, that is a feature of the 200LX.  This is the
daily greeting that comes up the first time you turn the
palmtop on or run SysMgr after midnight each day.  If you had
appointment and ToDos in your ADB file, then they would be
summarized in the dialog box for you.  But since you don't use
the Appt book, there is nothing there.

You can run off this feature by running the Appt application
and then use Menu Options and remove the checkmark next to
Daily Greeting.


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"F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> So, the reduction in wait states is not a real speed-up?  Or is it a
> speed-up but insignificant

Yes to both questions.

> not worth the "snake oil" taste?

That is the bottom line.


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Thanks for the information, but perhaps you should know that
`jap' is a distinct prejorative in English, and not a word to
be used politely, as it has no humorous connotation. I recommend
not using it...

Raffaele Gaioni wrote:
>
> Hi dear palmtoppers,
> surfin' on the jap-side of the hplx world I've found this page:
>
> http://www2.osk.threewebnet.or.jp/~fjw/hp200lx.html
>
> where u can find some nice piece of software.
>
> Bye, Raf
>

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> The cut & paste DOS utilities I've used permitted you to copy (somtimes
> cut) an entire screenful of text that you had blocked.  Granted, it is not
> as effective as Windoze in this area (no flames, please, just stating the
> facts) since Windoze will permit you to cut/copy & paste multiple screens
> of blocked information in one operation for Windoze apps.  But being able
> to copy & paste up to one full screen of text at one time is better than
> the inability to do it at all, which seems to be the situation we have now
> with the HP200LX if you are using DOS .EXE/.COM apps.


Buerg's List allows you to mark a top and bottom line of info (not of
just the visible screen) and then save the marked block to a text file.
So, for ascii data, at least, you can cut/paste larger portions of
files.

Then using Clipvu, you could move the data into the clipboard.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:15:15 +0200
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Hi  List,

I have been on the list for a while, but this is the first time I can be of
help. PACI has been tested on my HP 200LX. Those of you interested, can
download a few screenshots from the following URL:
www.ski-boy.com/hplx/
About the price. I am sure, the producers are not willing to give discounts,
no matter how many of you want to buy the software. ( According to my
calculations, shipping alone will cost $10-20.)
Furthermore, I think it is very unlikely that the producers would sell the
software to Thaddeus at a reasonable price. So, those of you willing to get
it, think in terms of the original price and feel free to ask further
questions.
(I have nothing to do with this company.)

BR, Georg

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:43:38 +0200
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Dear palmpotters I beg Your pardon...
I didn't know that "jap" is a distinct prejorative in English
and not a word to be used politely, as it has no humorous connotation.
I didn't mean to hurt the sensibility of anyone: it's just due to my
POOR english... :(

                        Excuse me
                        Raffaele

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Date:         Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:50:18 -0700
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I installed TransfileWin 200 on my computer.  I have used it on a previous
computer with no problem but, when I installed it and ran it my D:\ drive
disappeared!!!  I have my hard drive (6gig size) divided into C:\ and D:\
drives.

Has anyone had this happen and if so is there a fix.  I really like to use
transfile to communicate with my HP200 palmtop but I don't enjoy
reformatting the D:\ drive and putting back all the data lost.

Please e mail me if you have the answer or a suggestion as to what may have
gone wrong.  I had no problem transfering files back and forth to the c:\
dirve and I did notice that the Transfile program didn't indicate it was
reading a D:\ dirve on my  desktop which is an HP.  Also, I am running
Windows 95.

Thank you in advance.

Zel Eaton


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Subject:      Free Juno email and the HP200LX?

Hi all,

I currently use the free Juno email software on my desktop and notebook
computer to handle all of my list based email, and it works great. Well,
I've been wondering lately if I could figure out a way to run the free
Juno software on my HP200LX.

The Juno website says that the minimum system requirements to run the
Juno software are as follows:

* PC Compatible: 486, Pentium or higher
* Windows 95, 98 or NT 4.0
* 9600 baud modem
* 8 MB RAM
* Mouse
* SVGA monitor

That seems to disqualify the HP200LX from running the Juno software... or
does it, really? Well, I know of someone who still runs Juno software on
a really old 386 Running Windows 3.0 and a simple VGA monitor. The only
problem that they have in running Juno on their old system yet is that
animated ads sometimes take so much processing power that normal typing
of email is all but impossible.

When their machine's low power had become a problem, I just wrote a
little batch file for them so that after they pull down their email, they
could exit Juno, run my batch file that removes the ads and then re-start
Juno. With that minor work around, they are still able to exchange email
with little inconvenience.

Since they can still easily use Juno software on a machine that is far
below the stated minimum requirements, I'm starting to wonder what the
minimum requirements really are. Could the current Juno software actually
work with a EGA monitor?

If not, could there be an older version of Juno out there that worked
with a EGA monitor? If so, upon running that software and connecting, it
would exchange email and then no doubt automatically upgrade itself to
the newest version requiring a VGA monitor and log off. In that case, I
could  then simply run a batch file to make it revert to the old version
after every connection and re-launch the Juno software to read and write
email.

I wonder if it would be possible to operate the Juno software without a
mouse...

Has anyone actually tried installing and using the Juno software on a
HP200LX running Windows 3.0? If not, I'm wondering if it would be worth
my time to install Windows 3.0 on my HP200LX and investigate such a
possibility while I'm waiting on an extra serial cable to finish my
current slide-in docking station project.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 02:54:00 +0000
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Subject:      built in 6x8 font
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It seems to be a secret, that the palmtop has not only three
but four built in fonts: 6x8, 8x8, 10x11 and 16x12.

Unfortunately the zoom does not allow for the hidden 6x8 font.
I wrote a 30 bytes program called 6x8.COM to enable this font.
It is a pitty, that this font still uses 8 pixel width in text
modes, so that we cannot have 106 characters in one line, what
would be appropriate for a 6x8 font. (640 pixel / 6 =3D 106 chars).

However if this font is used in graphics modes with special
write string functions, the 106 characters are available!
But DOS in graphics mode does not use these functions :(
But PAL programs or other special written software could use
this font.

I know, I should not attach the 6x8.COM to this email. But
today I make an exception.

After you used the zoom key, you must run 6x8.COM again, if
you want to access this font. 6x8 does not permanently set up
this font. It is no TSR, just a very simple activation.

Stefan

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Some weeks ago, I posted an article saying that I missed the e-mail =
functionality that I had on my Psion Series 5. Avi (I think) posted a =
question, asking me what functionality POST/LX lacked. I never replied to =
this, but lots of other people did!

Well now it's my turn. Having used POST/LX for a few, I think that there =
is nothing the Psion's client could do that D&A's can't. For such a small =
program, it is brimming with useful features, most that the Psion was =
sadly lacking. My problems were with connectivity: using the modem in my =
Win95 PC and collecting mail from the mail server on my P, both via =
serial connection. I've since resolved both these problems.

However, I've got some other questions/problems with POST/LX, and I'm =
sure that there's lots of functionality in there that's hidden, i.e. only =
available by editing the .CFG files. I have a couple of requests for D&A.

1) As well as the FAQ, why don't you publish an IAQ file (Infrequently =
Asked Questions!)? Collect together the more obscure Q&A's that appear on =
this list, so that new users can read these for ideas and problem solving.=
 You then won't have to keep answering the same old questions over and =
over.

2) The help is very good. Could you extend it (in external text files) to =
include a guide to using the software for people who are just starting to =
go beyond the immediately obvious functionality? I'd like to see this =
guide focused on tasks solving rather than specific functions, e.g. how =
and why you might set up a folder and filter to handle the HPLX list.

Just a couple of ideas. If I can't make sense of my current problems with =
/LX by myself, I'll post them later.
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Date:         Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:07:21 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: A little question

>Oddly enough, that is a feature of the 200LX.  This is the
>daily greeting that comes up the first time you turn the
>palmtop on or run SysMgr after midnight each day.  If you had
>appointment and ToDos in your ADB file, then they would be
>summarized in the dialog box for you.  But since you don't use
>the Appt book, there is nothing there.
>
>You can run off this feature by running the Appt application
>and then use Menu Options and remove the checkmark next to
>Daily Greeting.

  Thanks for the tip, Stan. :-)

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:03:08 +0000
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Subject:      Re: built in 6x8 font
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> It seems to be a secret, that the palmtop has not only three
> but four built in fonts: 6x8, 8x8, 10x11 and 16x12.

Once again, thanks for your efforts.  Isn't this the font used to
display function key labels.  I know I have seen a font that appeared
smaller than other.  I recall dealing with some "tiny" font issue when
Jeff mattox was working on buddy.

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They have a tips and tricks section on their web site: www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:41:38 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Free Juno email and the HP200LX?

The 200LX already has free internet mail access. Check out www.palmtop.com
It uses the built-in CCmail.


John J Vanderstel writes:
> Hi all,
>
> I currently use the free Juno email software on my desktop and notebook
> computer to handle all of my list based email, and it works great. Well,
> I've been wondering lately if I could figure out a way to run the free
> Juno software on my HP200LX.
>
> The Juno website says that the minimum system requirements to run the
> Juno software are as follows:
>
> * PC Compatible: 486, Pentium or higher
> * Windows 95, 98 or NT 4.0
> * 9600 baud modem
> * 8 MB RAM
> * Mouse
> * SVGA monitor
>
> That seems to disqualify the HP200LX from running the Juno software... or
> does it, really? Well, I know of someone who still runs Juno software on
> a really old 386 Running Windows 3.0 and a simple VGA monitor. The only
> problem that they have in running Juno on their old system yet is that
> animated ads sometimes take so much processing power that normal typing
> of email is all but impossible.
>
> When their machine's low power had become a problem, I just wrote a
> little batch file for them so that after they pull down their email, they
> could exit Juno, run my batch file that removes the ads and then re-start
> Juno. With that minor work around, they are still able to exchange email
> with little inconvenience.
>
> Since they can still easily use Juno software on a machine that is far
> below the stated minimum requirements, I'm starting to wonder what the
> minimum requirements really are. Could the current Juno software actually
> work with a EGA monitor?
>
> If not, could there be an older version of Juno out there that worked
> with a EGA monitor? If so, upon running that software and connecting, it
> would exchange email and then no doubt automatically upgrade itself to
> the newest version requiring a VGA monitor and log off. In that case, I
> could  then simply run a batch file to make it revert to the old version
> after every connection and re-launch the Juno software to read and write
> email.
>
> I wonder if it would be possible to operate the Juno software without a
> mouse...
>
> Has anyone actually tried installing and using the Juno software on a
> HP200LX running Windows 3.0? If not, I'm wondering if it would be worth
> my time to install Windows 3.0 on my HP200LX and investigate such a
> possibility while I'm waiting on an extra serial cable to finish my
> current slide-in docking station project.
>
> Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO 654-5866
>
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Chris Randle wrote:
> 1) As well as the FAQ, why don't you publish an IAQ file (Infrequently
> Asked Questions!)? Collect together the more obscure Q&A's that appear on
> this list, so that new users can read these for ideas and problem solving.
> You then won't have to keep answering the same old questions over and
> over.

Somebody would have to do the work to collect those questions,
formulate the answers and packing them into a Web page. This would be a
serious bit of work. If the questions come over and over, they of
course make it into the FAQ.

> 2) The help is very good. Could you extend it (in external text files) to
> include a guide to using the software for people who are just starting to
> go beyond the immediately obvious functionality?

There is a Tips and Tricks page. But again, it is lot of work to extend
that page and somebody has to do it. If you volunteer...

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:29:14 +0200
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              Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT>
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Subject:      Fine Japanese sites
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Hi dear palmtoppers,
surfin' on the japabnese-side of the hplx world I've found this pages:

http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002322/lx.html
(author of the 123 GUI and other interesting piece of software)

http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002322/lx.html
(log.express and me.exm)

http://plaza10.mbn.or.jp/~uekiya/hp200lx/english/
(INTERESTING: programming hp200lx)

http://www.ayati.com/LX/HP200LX.HTM
(internet apps)

http://www.st.rim.or.jp/~kmatsuda/lnk/HP200LX/
(wwwnext?)

http://www.isc.meiji.ac.jp/~kubota/dmail/index.html
(dmail)

http://infofarm.cc.affrc.go.jp/~goddila/200lx/mobile.htm
(Mobile Computing for HP200LX)

http://member.nifty.ne.jp/kikuyan/200lx.htm
(icons & othrs)

http://www.sandi.co.jp/products/irib/mobia/dos.htm
(internet)

http://www.ryo.net/
(various intersting things)

http://www.kt.rim.or.jp/~mirin/mirin_filer.html
(mirin filer: have a look!!)

http://www.kt.rim.or.jp/~lsd/dmail.html
(dmail hp setup)

http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA004814/freesoft/gpt32lx-readme.html
(gnuplot 3.2 setup for the hp)

http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA004814/freesoft/
(dai chan free soft page)

Hope you'll like

Bye, Raf

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:40:35 -0400
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              Tamas Feher <E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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Subject:      Clinton lost "nuke ball" : 200LX war-games.

    Hello all!

 I bet some of you heard on the news, that on the NATO summit Billy
 boy felt sleepy and decided to go back to the White House to nap.
 One single problem, he failed to tell some of his staff - including
 the officer, who carries the "nuke ball", a big briefcase containg
 gear to initiate thermonuclear strike on presidental order.

 The officer, left alone, finally decided to go back to White House.
 He had to WALK some 440yards, alone & completely unguarded, dragging
 the bulky case. The confusion lasted about 30 minutes. I bet poor
 soldier could use fresh Pampers meanwhile...

 During this time the USA was unable to start a preemptive strike
 and was at a 45-120 seconds penalty to respond to suprise all out
 attack from evil Chinese/Soviets. However, as US regulations go,
 whenever 3 missile silo commanders congregate; they can shoot
 back, even if it's only an unconfiremed alert and noone can stop
 them. The time penalty comes from the period for arbitration:
 single commander tries to fire, gets vetoed, two try to fire, get
 vetoed by three or more, three try to fire, OK...kaboom. But this
 delay isn't dangerous, according to what analysts say. I con that.

 Obviously, they need something smaller than a breifcase. Maybe a
 chance for the 200LX? Jeff could participate with shortwave and
 Stefan writes scrambler. Any volunteers for GUI (politicians have
 low IQ, they need something simple)? And someone invent a loss-
 protection method for the 200LX, plus all-weather MIL-STD casing.
 Pretty good marketing for HP, if done 8-)  Ok, it was al ong joke

                Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:53:38 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Renaming files with corrupted titles

Sometimes I get a file with a corrupted title. I do a lot of programming
on the LX and if I screw up my code it can create a file with a corrupted
title which I need to rename to work with. This is how I do it.

First I drop into dos, either a dos box in System Manager or usually
a Software Carousel dos session.

Next, I'll go to page C-2 in the 200LX Users manual which has Character
Code page 437 which is the default for dos.

Third I type in ren, hold down alt+menu and type in the number for each
character, releasing alt+menu after each number. When there is a space
in the name I type in ?. Then type in the name I want to rename it to.
After pressing enter it should change the name to something readable.

This works pretty well getting rid of those nasty corrupted titles.
HTH some one.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:06:55 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Clinton lost "nuke ball" : 200LX war-games.

>  Obviously, they need something smaller than a breifcase. Maybe a
>  chance for the 200LX? Jeff could participate with shortwave and
>  Stefan writes scrambler. Any volunteers for GUI (politicians have
>  low IQ, they need something simple)? And someone invent a loss-
>  protection method for the 200LX, plus all-weather MIL-STD casing.
>  Pretty good marketing for HP, if done 8-)  Ok, it was al ong joke
>

They would need too much gear to prevent someone from jamming the signal.
It would still take a briefcase to carry it.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:20:25 -0400
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              Rick Kozak <rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA>
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>> and modify it to suit their purposes. So when there's a motherboard
>> upgrade the rommed software can be copied to the new board and
>> modified to work there. As long as a person just runs it on one
>> machine its perfectly legal.
>
>Unfortunately you couldn't modify it either as that would involve reverse
>engineering the ROM.
>
>Any new motherboard will have to contain new software or at least an OS so
>that a person can load their own software into it.  Moving the ROM code
from
>the 200LX into a new motherboard will never happen so I really don't want
>folks thinking that it is even a possibility.
>


Never say never, Mack. I can be done. I just moved a VGA bios rom to a
non-Intel platform for a customer. Admittedly, there are more bits of
hardware to emulate on the 200 than on a VGA, but the principle is the same.

The question is, why would someone put out the effort to do this?

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:16:48 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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The only problem I see (other than the advertisements using up HPLX-L
bandwidth) is going to be the Windows requirement.  Try executing the EXE
file associated with Juno from a DOS session.  If you get a message like
"this program requires Windows" or the program starts Windows for you, then
it won't work on a palmtop.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John J Vanderstel SMTP:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM
>
> Well, I've been wondering lately if I could figure out a way to run the
> free Juno software on my HP200LX.
>
> Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:23:32 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Free Juno email and the HP200LX?
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              Apr 26, 99 08:16:48 am
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> file associated with Juno from a DOS session.  If you get a message like
> "this program requires Windows" or the program starts Windows for you, then
> it won't work on a palmtop.

But... he already says that he friend is running it under a Win 3.0
desktop platform.  So I see the real issues are real or protected mode,
and display compatibility.

--

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:35:10 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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I'm not sure I get it... Windows 3.0 will operate as a non-protected mode
application and supports CGA, so if Juno would run under those constraints,
regardless of the constraints he is currently using, a valid test would
still be to determine if the executable requires some form of the Microsoft
Windows environment.  My test would have resulted in a yes-no result without
regard to the need for protected mode or video support.

I don't believe he intended to use Windows 3.0 on his palmtop... I might
have misunderstood.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: R. Christopher Lott SMTP:rclott@RO.COM
>
> But... he already says that he friend is running it under a Win 3.0
> desktop platform.  So I see the real issues are real or protected mode,
> and display compatibility.
>
> R. Christopher Lott, P.E.                                  rclott@ro.com
>

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:00:57 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
Subject:      Re: built in 6x8 font
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Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:51:04 -0400 (EDT)

09h47m56s ago ...
On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, F. Kaufman wrote:

> > It seems to be a secret, that the palmtop has not only three
> > but four built in fonts: 6x8, 8x8, 10x11 and 16x12.
>
> Isn't this the font used to display function key labels?

Hmmm - don't think so.  The F-key labels look like 8x8.

Thanks to Stefan for reminding me of this font.  It's mentioned in the
FCL docs, but I don't think anyone ever did anything with modifying the
tiny font...

Those of you using HP-Pygmy Forth (all 2 or 3 of you) can use this font
in graphics mode if you define the following word.

: TINYFONT $0608 font ;

Use this just like SMALLFONT MIDFONT etc...  It really is TINY!


-Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:15:42 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Stan!! I too had screen problems. I sent my unit to THADDEUS COMPUTING
they replace
my screen for under $200.00. HP is a little costly.>>

At this point we continue to charge $125 for all repairs -- we've never
charged more. However, we are quite short on screens.  4 months ago we
ordered some new screens from HP.  Because of the cost of screens to us,
when they finally get in, we will charge $175 to those customers where
we use the new screens.  (Now we use screens from broken units).  We
will inform customers before we make the charge -- if we can, giving
them the option of new or used screen.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:28:57 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Subject:      Serial Port Power
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Can anyone else that's using ABC/LX tell me if they have noticed that it
turns the serial port power on?

73 Jeff
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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:51:41 -0400
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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--- begin of forwarded message ---

> From- Sal J Russo mailto:saljrusso@lucent.com
> Sent- Friday, April 23, 1999 12:42 PM
>
>
>
>
> I recently purchased a Radio Shack WX200 weather station.
> I has an RS232 port that I would like to hook up to my
> hp200lx palmtop. It sends hex data corresponding to the
> various weather readings it tracks. Do you have any thoughts
> on an exsisting DOS program that I could modify to interpret
> the data coming across the line. Another option would be
> to write a program from scratch. I'd like to be able to
> read the data and write it to a plain text file. I've attached
> the data protocol if that helps. I would like to use the 200lx
> for other weather applications if you know of any.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Sal Russo
> saljrusso@lucent.com
>
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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:48:46 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: new screen

Hal Goldstein writes:
> <<Stan!! I too had screen problems. I sent my unit to THADDEUS COMPUTING
> they replace
> my screen for under $200.00. HP is a little costly.>>
>
> At this point we continue to charge $125 for all repairs -- we've never
> charged more. However, we are quite short on screens.  4 months ago we

Hal, what do you do with unrepairable motherboards? Are you able to exchange
those with HP? I am looking for a motherboard--doesn't matter whether
it works. Do you have a junk one there that I could buy?

John

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:50:34 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Serial Port Power

Jeff Johns writes:
> Can anyone else that's using ABC/LX tell me if they have noticed that it
> turns the serial port power on?

The serial port is always on when the AC is connected. Automatic light and deep
sleep are turned off too.

John

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:26:00 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 04-26 02:50am CDT, the following was written:

> The serial port is always on when the AC is connected.

Not true, at least as far as I know. You can disable it in 'Setup'. The
problem I am noticing is that when I leave one program and start another,
the serial port is somehow switched on. ABC/LX is one of these programs that
turns the port on. My box in setup is not checked to allow the port to be on
in DOS. Weird, huh?

Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:13:03 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Posting w/ Outlook (was ok - I will quit)

Dunno where in Outlook this is buried; but, even though I'm set up to send
mail in Rich Text Format, when replying to this list (or anyone who's
message is plain text) my message defaults to plain text(!).

Using Outlook 98 at work and you can see the "Message (Plain Text)" clearly
in the composing window's title bar.  Whoda-thunk, MS got one right for a
change ;-)

<<the last comment only because my weekend started w/ "Format C: /u /s" to
fix numerous Win98 registry problems.....>>

--tim

CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-7608

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:50:11 -0500
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              Steve Dowell <sdowell@HARRAHS.COM>
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Speaking of Format C:...  I checked out a pretty good book at the
library this weekend called "Format C:".  It's a good read, and has that
necessary "geek factor".

It doesn't have a 200LX in it, but it does have a palmtop called the
"Windy" that plays an important role in the book.

The authors last name is Black, and I found the book on the 'New' rack.
Check it out! (pardon the pun)

Steve

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO
SMTP:RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL
        Sent:   Monday, April 26, 1999 10:13 AM
        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Posting w/ Outlook (was ok - I will quit)
        <<the last comment only because my weekend started w/ "Format C:
/u /s" to
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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:08:59 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Serial Port Power

Jeff Johns writes:
> On 04-26 02:50am CDT, the following was written:
>
> > The serial port is always on when the AC is connected.
>
> Not true, at least as far as I know. You can disable it in 'Setup'. The
> problem I am noticing is that when I leave one program and start another,
> the serial port is somehow switched on. ABC/LX is one of these programs that
> turns the port on. My box in setup is not checked to allow the port to be on
> in DOS. Weird, huh?

That's the port power in dos under battery power. According to the sdk
port power and sleep is turned on and off respectively when the adapter
is plugged in. On my "good" lx, the one that came from HP repair, I have
nothing wierd happen to port power. It turns on and off just like the
sdk says it should with any program running under system manager.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:24:45 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Serial Port Power
Comments: To: John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
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              Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 09:50:34AM +0200
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1999-04-26-07:50:34 John Musielewicz:
> The serial port is always on when the AC is connected. Automatic light and deep
> sleep are turned off too.

I agree about the sleeps, but I leave my serial port normally locked with
Buddy, and the A/C doesn't turn it on; I still have to explicitly unlock it
and turn it on (i.e. hit "+" twice in filer), and can turn it back off and
lock it again when I'm done.

-Bennett

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:36:12 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 04-26 10:24am CDT, the following was written:

> I agree about the sleeps, but I leave my serial port normally locked with
> Buddy, and the A/C doesn't turn it on; I still have to explicitly unlock it
> and turn it on (i.e. hit "+" twice in filer), and can turn it back off and
> lock it again when I'm done.

I use LX Pro to turn it on and off and I can start ABC/LX with the port
turned off then run LXPro and the port will be on, from here turn it back
off and it turns right back on :) It's not really a big deal when it's
plugged into the adapter, but I don't like having to remeber to turn the
power off when using batteries. ABC/LX is not the only software that seems
to do this. I also experience the same scenario when I run PNRTI and PNR. In
fact, I'm using Goin' Postal to write this and just popped up my LXPro box
and the port has turned itself back on...... this is really strange
behavior. I don't know what I have changed, but it has only started
happening within the past week or so.

Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:36:36 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Serial Port Power
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>

>the serial port is somehow switched on. ABC/LX is one of these programs
that
>turns the port on. My box in setup is not checked to allow the port to be
on
>in DOS. Weird, huh?

Jeff,

Have you tried Buddy? <to "fix" this, I mean...>  I think "Fn - -"
Function-Minusx2 (tap minus twice) locks the COM port off - haven't tried
it nor can I find my copy of ABC/LX to experiment.

Sounds like something is reinitializing your modem or checking for the COM
port, when you change programs, are you using the built-in modem recognition
program or LLRAS in your startup?

HTH,

--tim

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:38:54 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Serial Port Power

Bennett Todd writes:
> 1999-04-26-07:50:34 John Musielewicz:
> > The serial port is always on when the AC is connected. Automatic light and deep
> > sleep are turned off too.
>
> I agree about the sleeps, but I leave my serial port normally locked with
> Buddy, and the A/C doesn't turn it on; I still have to explicitly unlock it
> and turn it on (i.e. hit "+" twice in filer), and can turn it back off and
> lock it again when I'm done.

Buddy must keep the port locked off pretty well. Anyway thats what the
sdk says and thats how my HP repaired 200LX works. Try not using Buddy
then checking your port with ppal or setit or something like that. Buddies
writer may have decided to lock off the port no matter what. It can be
shut off when the adapter is connected. Does it automatically come on
when you start a program like filer or datacomm?

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:42:32 -0400
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              Jim Krist <jtkrist@CLARK.NET>
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Using Outlook Express, in the Address Book, you can set up an alias and
specify that it should always receive plain text.  Look under the Name tab
when displaying an alias' properties.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:42:47 +0100
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              Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Jeff Johns wrote:
> Can anyone else that's using ABC/LX tell me if they have noticed that it
> turns the serial port power on?

It does not have the ability to turn on the serial port power, so it
must be something else that turns on serial port power. In the system
manager setup utility, there is a setting "Serial Port On In DOS". If
you have that checked, the serial port is turned on when you start a
DOS program. Maybe it is that?

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:45:26 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:40:29 -0700, Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU> wrote:

> Okay, I'm stumped.
>
> How do you use Memo as the default editor?


I've been working on the same thing Terry, without success. (:-)
If you are anybody else finds a fix, please post it.



Regards,

Qman...

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:55:42 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 04-26 11:36am CDT, the following was written:

> Have you tried Buddy? <to "fix" this, I mean...>  I think "Fn - -"

Hooray! Apparently, I somehow screwed up my Buddy settings and didn't even
think about that being the problem. Thanks to everyone for reminding me
about this setting!

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:15:59 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Is XL Pro the only software you are using to check port status?  If so,
consider that it (LX Pro) might be the culprit.  Use another method to check
port status and see if the problem is still there.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Johns SMTP:jeffj@SCOTT.NET
>
> I use LX Pro to turn it on and off and I can start ABC/LX with the port
> turned off then run LXPro and the port will be on, from here turn it back
> off and it turns right back on :)
>
> Jeff
>

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:38:07 +0000
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              Mikhail Epelbaum <mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET>
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From:         Mikhail Epelbaum <mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET>
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I remember having seen ads for devices that allowed to use standalone
fax as a scanner for PC. This was before scanners became commonplace.
Can this be done with HP200lx (other than simply faxing stuff in)? Has
anyone done this?

Mikhail

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:49:42 +0000
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From:         "Francisco I. Campoy Blasco" <fcampoy@GBT.TFO.UPM.ES>
Subject:      Waterloo TCP/IP
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Hi everyone,

        I'm going to develope an application on TCP/IP using the HP200LX
palmtop. Perhaps, i need to use PPP (point to point protocol).

        Has anyone used the WatTCP libraries ??
        Has anyone bought the reference manuals ??

        Are they useful ??

        Please, i need your help.

____________________________________________

Francisco Ignacio Campoy Blasco
Grupo de Bioingenieria y Telemedicina
E.T.S.I. Telecomunicacion  -  UPM
Ciudad Universitaria  s/n
28040 Madrid, Spain

Tel  +34 91 5495700   Ext 332
Fax  +34 91 3366828
e-mail:  fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es
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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:06:52 +0000
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From:         Kat Deutscher <katd@CWIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: HELP!!  I'm drowning in E-mail.
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 > David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:
 >
 > > > How does one get the top line, like this message, to read the date =
&
 > > > person who wrote the message you are responding to?  Is this a =
feature
 > > > I have been missing in POST/LX, or does one just type it in?  I =
have
 > > > looked in the manual, but might have overlooked it
 >
 > I have a macro in PE that goes into the original message,
 > finds the From: and then copy/pastes it into the beginning of
 > my new message.  Works great.  See above.  I think it is good
 > because it helps the author of the original message notice
 > that there is a reply to him or her.  I don't see the need
 > for the time information.

Stan,

Could you share your macro with us?  How do you access
a specific line in the original message?

Kat
--
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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:06:57 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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I saw this app announced on a Pilot newsgroup and figured that we could use
something like this, too.

http://jrray.visionart.com/showtimes/

What is does is download your local movie listings using a perl script and then
the app itself is a viewer for the datafile generated by the script. The HPLX
could do the same with a PAL program or EXM as the viewer.

I'd use it!
--
Mitch
SUPER Team

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:20:39 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Waterloo TCP/IP
Comments: To: fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es
In-Reply-To:  <199904261741.TAA11917@toro.gbt.tfo.upm.es> from "Francisco I.
              Campoy Blasco" at "Apr 26, 99 07:49:42 pm"
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> Hi everyone,
>
>         I'm going to develope an application on TCP/IP using the HP200LX
> palmtop. Perhaps, i need to use PPP (point to point protocol).
>
>         Has anyone used the WatTCP libraries ??

Yes, my Goin' Postal mailer for the LX uses the WATTCP library.  Also,
Rod Whitby keeps a repository of LX-related WATTCP stuff on his web
page; http://rwhitby.hplx.net/

For the PPP side, use Toni Lopez's DOSPPP packet drivers (specifically,
the EPPPD.EXE driver which emulates BOOTP)

>         Has anyone bought the reference manuals ??
>
>         Are they useful ??

Yes, I bought the reference manual and it's handy.  It's not really
impressive, being just a Xeroxed set of pages without even a cover.  It's
really Erick Englekes way of getting a little money for his hard work,
which he really does deserve.

The WATTCP stack is pretty much the only thing around for developing DOS
TCP apps these days, so unless you're living on the street or writing a
freeware app, please buy the manual and give Erick a little support.  It's
really quite a tiny amount of money to pay for what was a whole lot of
work on his part.

There was talk on the list about being able to get the API to WWW/LX,
which sounds like a nice way to go.  I don't know if you can yet or not,
though I'm sure Avi will respond to this with the answer.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:28:36 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Waterloo TCP/IP
Comments: To: fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es

LXTCP uses the WatCP. The source code is availible. You can get it from
the SUPER site www.palmtop.net

Francisco I. Campoy Blasco writes:
> Hi everyone,
>
>         I'm going to develope an application on TCP/IP using the HP200LX
> palmtop. Perhaps, i need to use PPP (point to point protocol).
>
>         Has anyone used the WatTCP libraries ??
>         Has anyone bought the reference manuals ??
>
>         Are they useful ??
>
>         Please, i need your help.
>
> ____________________________________________
>
> Francisco Ignacio Campoy Blasco
> Grupo de Bioingenieria y Telemedicina
> E.T.S.I. Telecomunicacion  -  UPM
> Ciudad Universitaria  s/n
> 28040 Madrid, Spain
>
> Tel  +34 91 5495700   Ext 332
> Fax  +34 91 3366828
> e-mail:  fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es
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>
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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:27:47 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 04-26 01:06pm CDT, the following was written:

> I'd use it!

Ditto!

Jeff

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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:02:31 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From: John Musielewicz


<<Hal, what do you do with unrepairable motherboards? Are you able to
exchange
those with HP? I am looking for a motherboard--doesn't matter whether
it works. Do you have a junk one there that I could buy?>>

We don't exchange anything we HP. Twice we have been able to order parts
from them and we are working with them so we can buy them when we need
them.

If you privately email me with your address, I'll send you a junked
motherboard.  I ask everyone out there, please don't bombard me with
requests for parts.  When we can make them available, we will.  If you
positively, absolutely, have to have a part and you will shrivel up and
die without it, you can email privately and I'll see if I can help you
out.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:22:49 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi John

you can switch off this greeting screen somewhere in the
'options' menu of the appointment book.

GTX
daniel

> BTW, has anyone else noticed that upon turning on their HP200LX or upon
> backing out of a MaxDOS controlled DOS program, it sometimes
> automatically jumps to a screen where there is a dialog box over the
> apptbook day view waiting for an "OK"? After hitting enter, the dialog
> box disappears leaving me at the apptbook day view where I must hit menu
> and Q to get back to the "&...More" application launch screen again. I
> don't even use the apptbook on my HP200LX, so it's just a mite
> irritating.


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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:22:42 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

These one mentioned by _me_ (daniel) are _exactly_ the same as
these ones sold by Thaddeus (Mitch sold them before Thaddeus,
and I sent him a few pictures of this light I found. He said,
it was the same.)
It can be clipped at the screen.

GTX
daniel


> >> In the Thaddeus catalog(ue), they advertise a small torch which clips on
> >> the side of the HP screen. It has a goose-neck arm which wraps around the
> >> body of the torch when not in use.
> >>
> >> Q. Does anybody know of a source for this torch in the UK?
>
> I got one very similar in the Gadget(?) Shop in the new Trafford Centre in
> Manchester. I believe the Gadget Shop have branches elsewhere in England.
> The cost was 4GBP (four pounds).
> I think this is the same as the one mentioned by Daniel (below).
>
> They are NOT the same as the ones sold by Thaddeus. They don't clip on to the edge of
> the screen as well. I generally tend to just stand it at the side of the HP on the
> few occasions I have used it.


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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:22:46 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Fluff: Re: Rom
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Hi,

no, it's not legal to discontinue using the 200LX!
;-)


GTX
daniel

> Does anyone know if the rom licensing is like a regular software
> license? If a person bought a 200LX and copied the rommed software
> to a differant machine then stopped using the 200LX and just used
> the rom software on the new machine, would that be legal?
>
> John
>
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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:22:53 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: PACI
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Hi Georg,

Thank you very much for your posting!!!
That's exactly this what we all were waiting for.
I'll now have a look to the screenshots.


> help. PACI has been tested on my HP 200LX. Those of you interested, can
> download a few screenshots from the following URL:
> www.ski-boy.com/hplx/

Maybe now we'll see that it's worth its 80 US$.
If not, we'll see...

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:23:18 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi list,

some time ago i posted a message to you and didn't get a reply.
I try it once more and add one question:

--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:37:09 +0100
From: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@gmx.de>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject: Software Carousel question

Hi list

Is there a possibility to "lock" the hotkeys of SC while
the flash card (where my SC swap file is stored) is removed
or replaced by the PCMCIA modem and unlock them after
reinserting it (for preventing lockups or "disk not ready" errors)?

And if there's a possibility for the hotkeys, is there also one
for locking the blue app-keys which switch to WA1 (SysMgr)?

--- end of forwarded message ---

I thought about maybe a TSR with a not so easy accessable hotkey
(for example shift-alt-esc or somthing like this) that disables
WA-swapping.

And regarding this I have a one more question:
When does the system hang up and when do I get only the disk
not ready error (when switching to another WA if the CF-card
isn't inserted)?
I couldn't see any rule for that - somtimes I must hard-reset
the palmtop after that, somtimes I only have to reinsert the
card and press "r" for retry, then it works again.

GTX+TNX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:42:56 EST
Reply-To:     tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP

> >Or simpler yet, just use the desktop computer.
>
>   If the ultimate purpose was not to enable more effective remote use of
> a HP200LX or if the resulting data didn't ultimately need to be moved to
> the HP200LX, then yes.  As long as one is near a stand alone desktop
> computer, it would be much easier to simply use the stand alone desktop
> and cut the HP200LX out of the loop, all together.
>
>   However, if the ultimate purpose was to edit or input a sizable amount
> of text into a document or file that was already stored and used on the
> HP200LX, then a simple slide-in network connection to your nearby desktop
> would offer the most efficient input method without resorting to sneaker
> net (or the CF shuffle).
>
>   I personally use "rcon" on my network to enable use of my desktop
> keyboard for much faster and easier direct editing on my HP200LX while
> I'm home. This comes in particularly handy when I'm developing rather
> busy batch files at home for use later on my HP200LX while on the road.
>
>   Cheers,
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, MIchigan

Lets see, put a network card in the hp and use my desktop keyboard
while bent over squinting at the hp screen or just pop a flash card
into my desktop and use my 17 inch monitor, I think I will go with
the latter. For anyone looking for a pretty good deal on a desktop
dual slot pcmcia adaptor there was a guy with several for sale on
ebay. I got one for $46 and it works quite well. It is an older SCM
swapbox model, isa adaptor with a dual ribbon cable connected to a
3.5" sized pair of slots.

Pete



Peter W. Borders

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:52:46 -0400
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Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:21:05 -0400 (EDT)

Hi group-

Here's a variation of the kludge (...or technique - sounds better) for
making blank spaces in the XF desktop screens.  Use your editor to
create an empty file (zero size) called, maybe, 01.xxx

You can use any extension you're not likely to use for anything else.
Create a blank icon called xxx.icn   In the .env file section for
execution by matching extension add the line
.xxx  ,  ,
to tell XF to do nothing if you hit Enter on the dummy file.  Use the
bogus date/time setting and reverse date sort to arrange the icons, and
use as many blank files as you need.  Call them 01.xxx  02.xxx  03.xxx
etc.  Use the Extra Name function of XF to give each dummy file a
single space for its name.  This works beter than using *.xfn for the
name.

Sorry, I don't have any idea about Terry's question about using Memo
for the XF editor.  Seems like I tried the same things without success.
I use VDE for my editor.

Also check out the new stuff on SUPER - several XF accessory progs.


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On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:43:38 +0200, Raffaele Gaioni wrote:

>Dear palmpotters I beg Your pardon...
>I didn't know that "jap" is a distinct prejorative in English
>and not a word to be used politely, as it has no humorous connotation.
>I didn't mean to hurt the sensibility of anyone: it's just due to my
>POOR english... :(

I don't think you need to apologise. The Americans here may consider it a
pejorative term, but here in jolly old England it's just considered a
contraction of Japanese - not a nasty term in itself. Like any word, if
used in a particular context it could be considered nasty, but I found no
problem with your original post.

--=20
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Subject:      Re: EXCUSE ME

> >Dear palmpotters I beg Your pardon...
> >I didn't know that "jap" is a distinct prejorative in English
> >and not a word to be used politely, as it has no humorous connotation.
> >I didn't mean to hurt the sensibility of anyone: it's just due to my
> >POOR english... :(
>
> I don't think you need to apologise. The Americans here may consider it a
> pejorative term, but here in jolly old England it's just considered a
> contraction of Japanese - not a nasty term in itself. Like any word, if
> used in a particular context it could be considered nasty, but I found no
> problem with your original post.
>
> --
> Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.demon.co.uk>
> Team 200LX UK

Wouldn't you really have to be japanese to have a valid opnion one
way or the other? nothing personal but maybe a japanese person could
express their opinion on the matter.

Pete

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On 04-26 04:09pm CDT, the following was written:

> I don't think you need to apologise. The Americans here may consider it a
> pejorative term, but here in jolly old England it's just considered a
> contraction of Japanese - not a nasty term in itself. Like any word, if
> used in a particular context it could be considered nasty, but I found no
> problem with your original post.

Well... I as an American didn't have a problem with it. In fact, I didn't
even think about it until I saw the apology :) Life is too short to stress
over things like this, coming from a part of the country that is forever
scarred with past racial inequitites, most of us here in the South get along
pretty well and have learned to ignore minor things such such as the term
jap, especially since no ill-will was meant by it. I vote that we all just
go get a beer and carry on with our discussions of our little machines :)

Jeff


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Chris,

> 1) As well as the FAQ, why don't you publish an IAQ file (Infrequently
> Asked Questions!)? Collect together the more obscure Q&A's that appear on
> this list, so that new users can read these for ideas and problem solving.
>  You then won't have to keep answering the same old questions over and
> over.

This is a good idea. In addition, there are many questions that we get in Tech
Support which are also infrequently asked.

It only needs one tiny ingredient: Time :) ... I have been working on some
ideas vis-a-vis FAQ on our Webpage and invariably, the hardest issue is access
to those questions. We can classify them in many ways and invariably the
classification is not perfect. Another way is to put together a searhcable
database. These ideas are in the works.

> 2) The help is very good. Could you extend it (in external text files) to
> include a guide to using the software for people who are just starting to
> go beyond the immediately obvious functionality? I'd like to see this
> guide focused on tasks solving rather than specific functions, e.g. how
> and why you might set up a folder and filter to handle the HPLX list.

I am not sure what this is. I find many customers to become proficient then
begin to research and experiment with other functions, the lesser
frequently-used ones. Then all sorts of things happen! :) ... But I am not
sure how to make a manual like that. Perhaps these would be better in the Tips
and Tricks document in the Webpage? It started as a good idea, and needs more
work... I think these kinds of things that pertain to usage would be better
for the TnT page. What do you think? Goo look at it and let me know...

Thanks for the post!

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:13:22 -0700
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John,

> Sometimes I get a file with a corrupted title. I do a lot of programming

I assume you mean file nmes when you use "titles".

You suggested that currupted, strange file names can be deleted by entering
their "strange" name.

I believe this is dangerous. When you have such files, you may also notice
that they sometimes have a size far exceeding anything present on the palmtop
(say 500MB file... )

The reason you see strange filenames to begin with is that the directory
entries are corrupted or the FAT (File Allocation Table) is corrupted.

What seems to be "strange" names are really hexadecimal characters being
displayed, and many times not AT ALL true filenames. IOW, say a program
overlaid the directory entries. Instead of showing the file names what you
really see is bytes from the program for example.

But if the name was overlaid, it is likely that the rest of information in the
entry was too. That information points to the beginning of the file. Instead
of pointing to say sector 15 track 40, the overlaid information (garbage from
the program) is now pointing to oh sector 4552 track 7 (the numbers are purely
mythical, just for illustration...) So by deleting the "file" you release
sector 4552 track 7 which is nowhere near the original file. In fact, if you
are lucky it is in the middle of "no man's land" unused by any other file.
Most likely people will be unlucky on heavily used palmtops and will destroy
another good program somewhere else...

There is a much better way... Use CHKDSK and let it fix these errors. It will
use information from the primary FAT and the secondary FAT to restore
directories, and entries in the directories. The flaky file names will vanish
after such a repair - since the directory entries will be overlaid again by
proper data.

If you have one file that was erroneously renamed to something unprintable :)
it is easier to use the following:

Assume the unprintable file name is  "$ 7wwr~" Without the quotes and with
that space in the middle. Use the the following command at the C: prompt:

 ren ??* junk.

then del junk.

Much easier, much safer. Sorry, John, I really did not think the advice you
gave was safe to use...

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:13:33 -0700
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John Vander Stel:

> The Juno website says that the minimum system requirements to run the
> Juno software are as follows:
>
> * PC Compatible: 486, Pentium or higher
> * Windows 95, 98 or NT 4.0
> * 9600 baud modem
> * 8 MB RAM
> * Mouse
> * SVGA monitor
>
> That seems to disqualify the HP200LX from running the Juno software... or
> does it, really? Well, I know of someone who still runs Juno software on
> a really old 386 Running Windows 3.0 and a simple VGA monitor. The only
> problem that they have in running Juno on their old system yet is that
> animated ads sometimes take so much processing power that normal typing
> of email is all but impossible.

I believe this will not work, but you'll have to try it...

1. your friend may have an older version of the Juno executable. If you can
get that version still you passed one hurdle.

2. Another issue may be that the 386+ requirement is because of instructions
they use in their program that is not prsent on the 80186 chip, if so, you are
SOL.

3. As you mentioned, their banner ads, their livelihood(!), are significant
processor hogs. If you pay for the internet connection by time, it is not
free, it very expensive - you pay the phone company or the ISP (or both) for
Juno's advertisers to pound ads into your face...

4. They also use image maps to let you click on a specific region to access
this service or another. These images may be beyond the capability of a CGA
screen, nor do you have a handy mouse on the palmtop.

5. It sounds like in any case you'll need to run Win 3.0 (possible on the
palmtop) and then some TCP/IP engine to connect to the internet, and then the
Juno executable. I do not recall precisely the amount of program memory left
inside Win3.0 but it was not a lot - don't forget: You start with 640K and go
down: Win3.0 takes some (substantial), the TCP/IP engine will take some, then
the Juno executable will too. It may be tight or impossible.

But don't let my words discourage you. Try it!!! The worst outcome is that
palmtop will explode into 5000 pieces :) ... But I think not :)

Good luck. Please post the results here. I am definitely interested, and I am
sure many others would too.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:41:23 -0700
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I'm trying to help somebody get a Intel Series Flash  card to work on her
palmtop. But since have loss the necessary drivers and setup
instructions.

So if anybody has these drivers/installation tips and or know a download
location please post your comments.



Regards,

Qman...

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Crikey,

If the paragraph below is an example of your poor English, please don't =
improve. You're putting the natives to shame!

Maybe other English speakers feel differently, but I've always considered =
Jap to be a perfectly acceptable (albeit slang) abbreviation for Japanese =
- much as Brit for British. We have derogatory words for the Japanese, =
but I don't think Jap is one of them. Am I going to be sorry I posted =
this opinion?


Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT> wrote...
> Dear palmpotters I beg Your pardon...
> I didn't know that "jap" is a distinct prejorative in English
> and not a word to be used politely, as it has no humorous connotation.
> I didn't mean to hurt the sensibility of anyone: it's just due to my
> POOR english... :(
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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:13:17 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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I'm beginning to make preparations to go for my private pilot's license (a
dream I've always had)... I've been wondering if anyone's written an E6B
flight computer program for the 100/200LX.  A cursory search of the
internet and my archive site (http://archive.hplx.net) turned up nothing.

An E6B, for those who are wondering, is a little circular slide rule like
device that lets pilots compute groundspeed, fuel consumption, weight and
balance, etc.

It seems to me that the palmtop would be ideal for this application; there
are several apps like this available for the Palm Pilot.  It'd be possible
to write such a thing in Lotus or HPCALC... and I'd do it, if I could get
my hands on the necessary equations.  I was just hoping someone out
there'd done it already.  <grin>

Thanks,
Bill




Bill Childers
South Valley Consulting

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:22:30 +0100
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              Laurence Harvey <laurence@HARVEY-L.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
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Terrence Chun wrote:
> How do you use Memo as the default editor?

I had a little trouble with this but finally entered literally what is says
in the instructions and it worked! simply enter in FINDER.ENV:
%e    ,b800    ,240r||me

The logic of this syntax escapes me but it works.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:35:00 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Language (was  EXCUSE ME)
Comments: To: "chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK" <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>

There will always be cultural differences in what is "acceptable" language
-- I dated a young Scottish woman who would've slugged me for trying to buy
her a "fanny pack" to keep her passport and documents safe but she'd been
around Americans and their "strange regional dialect" of the English
language ;-) for some time and I would've only gotten chewed out: I remember
"fanny" is offensive to some European women ... not sure why anymore ... but
I apologize in advance to anyone who does and it offended.

As long as the intent isn't bad in a post, we can all do OK, and, it's
perfectly fine to discuss what might offend others, if taken out of context.
Heck, many on this list are international businessmen and women who would
benefit from the discussion!

--tim, not-offended; nor trying to be offensive...... Today ;-)  .....

PS. I've got the same Edison quote (below) on display at the office and one
of our artists came in today and took (mild) offense !! -- He said something
like, "Good quote, too bad it came from someone who stole all his inventions
from those who worked for him....".

"... can't please all of the people ...."

CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:47:00 -0700
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              Greg Renda <greg@NCD.COM>
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> I'm beginning to make preparations to go for my private pilot's license (a
> dream I've always had)... I've been wondering if anyone's written an E6B
> flight computer program for the 100/200LX.  A cursory search of the
> internet and my archive site (http://archive.hplx.net) turned up nothing.

Check out my page at www.jps.net/renda/greg.  I've got several spreadsheets
I used while working on my license.

-Greg

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:13:31 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Free Juno email and the HP200LX?

I vaguely remember a post on Juno's website when they first came up w/ the
idea, that they had no plans to support DOS :-(

I think Avi's hit the mark when he says something about the instruction set
needing a 386, etc.

I think Juno's a pretty neat idea too set up w/ it once, set up a friend's
father and that's ALL he uses, even though he now has an ISP!.

I'll quote Avi here
>But don't let my words discourage you. Try it!!! The worst outcome is that
>palmtop will explode into 5000 pieces :) ... But I think not :)

It'd be great to have it work on the palmtop - you may have to go into an
emulator that fools the Juno server into thinking it's talking to a Windows
machine insert legal disclaimer here ;-) ... dunno if it's 'cool' to do
this.  Heck, if Juno required it, I'd even be interested in text-based
versions of some of the ads .... never want to miss a bargain AND you don't
have to follow the ads, just see their headers, even in "Juno proper".

Good luck,

--tim

CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-7608

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:30:04 -0400
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              aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU>
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does anyone know where I can get the Dsp1402a file to display Japanese web
pages with HV. I have found a few sites that say the file is dsp1402a.lzh but
once I open it it's dsp1402. Has anyone ben able to read Japanese web pages
ith HV.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:41:12 -0300
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Dearest colleagues:
I have lost the password of a memo file and have no clue on how to retrieve
it. Sadly, this file is very important for me... Does anybody know how to
crack the password?

Thanks a lot


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LanTech
Juncal 1966 2 "D"
Buenos Aires - Argentina
Tel (5411) 4815-1166
Fax (5411)4816-6342
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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:53:25 -0500
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Subject:      Movie Info --> Palmtop (was RE: Another program idea)
Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>

I ran the windows version of the program and it generates 5 Palm-specific
.pdb files that must interlink somehow in the Palm-critters, using the
normal synchronization session, I think one file seems to be theaters, one
movie names, another times, etc..

This almost makes me want to go out and buy a Palm-III/V-type device NOW!

Somebody stop me!!!!  <<make this work in the LX, and maybe I'll be able to
control myself....   ;-)   >>

Will any of the commercial synch programs import these Palm .pdb files into
anything useful?

I imagine I'll just browse to the Yahoo movie page in WWW/LX//HV  
http://movies.yahoo.com/    and save the text of my search..... (I'd do it
now, but I seem to have left my modem at home).

--tim



CPT Tim Raymond
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-----Original Message-----
Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) wrote:

>I saw this app announced on a Pilot newsgroup and figured that we could use
>something like this, too.

> http://jrray.visionart.com/showtimes/

>What is does is download your local movie listings using a perl script and
then
>the app itself is a viewer for the datafile generated by the script.
<snip>

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:34:24 +0200
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Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@ftel.net>

A Meshar writes:
> John,
>
> > Sometimes I get a file with a corrupted title. I do a lot of programming
>
> I assume you mean file nmes when you use "titles".

Yep

>
> You suggested that currupted, strange file names can be deleted by entering
> their "strange" name.

No I suggested a file with a corrupted name that has been created
by a programming error can be renamed and then deleted if nessasary.
Usually these have been empty files. Once I had a directory name become
corrupted--I was able to change the name back, no problem, its been fine
ever since. Since I have become a little more experienced programming, files
like this have become less frequent but each time it happens I change the
name so I can use it and delete it if needed. It works for me but like any
other tip or trick the user uses at their own risk.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:20:54 -0700
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For a very brief time (from now until I leave work), there's a palmtop web
server online using the LX Velcroed Web Server (don't ask... or at least
ask Steve Lawson and not me) at http://hp200.ipair.com:7070/ .  If you get
a "No route to host" error, or if it just plain won't load, that means
that I had to leave and took my palmtop home.  <g>

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:26:35 -0500
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Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>

Worked GREAT in Netscape Explorer 5.0 had fits.

You didn't say you were linking us to an angel!! Great photo of your
youngster.

I'd say, "Cute kid ... doesn't look at all like her dad" but all we've
seen are the grey head-shots w/ your Thaddeus (Palmtop Paper) articles ;-)


Makes me want to run out and get a network card for my LX.... just in a
SHOPPING mood at the moment - headed to the gym instead, maybe I'll
counteract the effects of my more sedentary toys!.

Keep up the good work,

--tim

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:31:58 -0700
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On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:

> Worked GREAT in Netscape Explorer 5.0 had fits.

I can view it both in Netscape 4.5 and IE4.  Maybe IE5 has a problem with
it, or perhaps  it was just a fluke...

> You didn't say you were linking us to an angel!! Great photo of your
> youngster.

Just a quick test to see if the image-serving capability was up to snuff.
It appears to work.  No horrible bugs in the software so far (except one
in the parsing of the config files, but it wasn't a "horrible" bug, so to
speak, since obviously the software works great).

> I'd say, "Cute kid ... doesn't look at all like her dad" but all
> we've seen are the grey head-shots w/ your Thaddeus (Palmtop Paper)
> articles ;-) 

Just wait until Ian finishes up (or even STARTS! <g>) on my personal site
at www.hplx.net.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:47:17 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Palmtop and Flight Computer (E6B)
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Bill,

Here is an URL that lists most aviation math formulas.

            best.com/~williams/avform.htm


I also have a book reference for you:

           The Axioms of Flight - Rules of Thumb for Pilots
           by James Embree


Cliff Crittenden

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On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Bill Childers wrote:

> I'm beginning to make preparations to go for my private pilot's license (a
> dream I've always had)... I've been wondering if anyone's written an E6B
> flight computer program for the 100/200LX. ...>

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In a message dated 4/26/1999 07:54:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
FAdaro@NABSA.COM.AR writes:

> Dearest colleagues:
>  I have lost the password of a memo file and have no clue on how to retrieve
>  it. Sadly, this file is very important for me... Does anybody know how to
>  crack the password?
>
Go to the super site & download "hpcrack."    It will have you in the file in
no time.  Lucky for you, the protection is very weak.

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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In a message dated 4/26/1999 03:25:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
d.hertrich@GMX.DE writes:

>
>  no, it's not legal to discontinue using the 200LX!
>  ;-)
>
But it oughtta be!

Lynn M. Cavendish

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> I don't think you need to apologise. The Americans here may consider it a
> pejorative term, but here in jolly old England it's just considered a
> contraction of Japanese - not a nasty term in itself. Like any word, if
> used in a particular context it could be considered nasty, but I found no
> problem with your original post.

I think this issue came up a long time ago (possibly on the original list), and
FWIW I believe that JPN was preferred over JAP, so I'm providing this as a tip
for those of you who don't really care and would just as soon use one term over
the other.

I'm not Japanese, so can't really speak for their reaction, but my wife (who is
Japanese-American) and her family who were detained in the relocation camps
during the war do still get a knee-jerk reaction from hearing the word...so I
can tell you that for some people, your choice of terms do make a difference to
them.

Someone else likened the abbreviation to Brit for British, except I don't know
that Brit was ever used as a derogatory term (now watch me get corrected).

I agree with several other posters that 1) the use of the term JAP in the
original post was made in a non-offensive way, 2) the poster needn't apologize
and 3) we should get on with things.

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:26:33 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Free Juno email on the HP200LX?

>The 200LX already has free internet mail access. Check out
www.palmtop.com
>It uses the built-in CCmail.

I'll definitely check that out before I start dedicating so much of my
time to the Juno project. No sense in pursuing a solution to a problem
that might already have a solution. <g> Thanks John! :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Hi Pete,

>>   I personally use "rcon" on my network to enable use of my desktop
>> keyboard for much faster and easier direct editing on my HP200LX while
>> I'm home. This comes in particularly handy when I'm developing rather
>> busy batch files at home for use later on my HP200LX while on the
road.
>
>Lets see, put a network card in the hp and use my desktop keyboard
>while bent over squinting at the hp screen or just pop a flash card
>into my desktop and use my 17 inch monitor, I think I will go with
>the latter. For anyone looking for a pretty good deal on a desktop
>dual slot pcmcia adaptor there was a guy with several for sale on
>ebay. I got one for $46 and it works quite well. It is an older SCM
>swapbox model, isa adaptor with a dual ribbon cable connected to a
>3.5" sized pair of slots.
>
>Pete

I guess I should have explained what "rcon" really is. "Rcon" is a
network command that provides a "remote connection". It actually allows a
user to take control of a distant node's keyboard and it echoes the
distant node's screen to the local screen. During an "rcon" session, the
HP200LX's screen is echoed onto my local large desktop monitor.

I should however mention now that I actually used the "rcon" example
because I felt that it would be easier to explain than the way I actually
go about this.

The HP200LX's C: drive is a network drive on my network, but my network
actually tricks my desktop computer into thinking that it is it's own
local drive H:. <g> I can simply make the HP200LX's C: drive my current
drive on my desktop (drive H:) and access everything on the HP200LX's
drive, even if the HP200LX is busy doing something else.
My understanding of this mode is that all operations are accomplished
with my local desktop CPU, and that my desktop computer is simply
querying the HP200LX's drive. This is a very fast, easy and efficient way
to access the HP200LX's drives without having to use the HP200LX's
keyboard and screen, at all. I Just slide the HP200LX into it's base and
access it's file system just like any other local desktop drive. :-)

In fact, while I'm accessing my HP200LX's drives in this way, my HP200LX
is usually tightly closed and out of sight! :-)

I hope that better explains my thought processes and what I'm actually
doing on this end, Pete.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:50:50 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Free Juno email for the HP200LX?

Hi Avi and all,

>1. your friend may have an older version of the Juno executable. If you
can
>get that version still you passed one hurdle.

I have an early version on disk, but I don't know if it's actually the
original version. If anyone has the original version from when they first
started, please let me know.

>2. Another issue may be that the 386+ requirement is because of
instructions
>they use in their program that is not prsent on the 80186 chip, if so,
you are
>SOL.

That was a big concern, but not quite as big now due to a private email I
received from another list member. Maybe I'm wrong, but my take on his
message is that he had tried this on his HP200LX a while back with some
limited success. It sounded like the ads might have been what caused the
problems for him. I'm hoping to get around that problem in the way I
described earlier.

>3. As you mentioned, their banner ads, their livelihood(!), are
significant
>processor hogs. If you pay for the internet connection by time, it is
not
>free, it very expensive - you pay the phone company or the ISP (or
>both) for Juno's advertisers to pound ads into your face...

It actually IS free email access... There are local access numbers for
95% of the population now and it does not require an ISP. They offer
direct dial numbers into their own servers. That's the beauty of the
concept. Juno is completely free email. That's why their 6 million users
are willing to put up with the ads.

Please check it out at www.juno.com. Go ahead and Download it. Try it on
your desktop PC. At the least, you'll have completely free email. Who
knows, you might even be able to develop some great ideas on how to skirt
the ads, as well. It would be a real shame if we didn't at least give it
our best effort. This is a completely free resource that is still
untapped by the mighty HP200LX.

>4. They also use image maps to let you click on a specific region to
access
>this service or another. These images may be beyond the capability of a
CGA
>screen, nor do you have a handy mouse on the palmtop.

That is my largest concern. I, myself, have never used Windows 3.0
without a mouse. So that is an area of this project that I'll need lots
tips and hints about. I'm hoping that we'll be able to find a way around
that too. I would hope that the tab will offer enough functionality to
get us over that hurdle..

The impression that I've got from the time I've been lurking on this list
is that many here have loaded Windows 3.0 on their HP200LX's for the Wow
effect. I am counting on their input and experiences with that too.

>5. It sounds like in any case you'll need to run Win 3.0 (possible on
the
>palmtop) and then some TCP/IP engine to connect to the internet, and
then the
>Juno executable. I do not recall precisely the amount of program memory
left
>inside Win3.0 but it was not a lot - don't forget: You start with 640K
and go
>down: Win3.0 takes some (substantial), the TCP/IP engine will take some,
then
>the Juno executable will too. It may be tight or impossible.

No separate TCP/IP engine is needed to use Juno. The Juno software is all
that is needed and it installs very easily on a desktop PC. I'm hoping
that it will run without EMS or XMS. Again, I'm somewhat encouraged by
that one related private email that I received earlier today.

Either it will work, or it won't. I'll try it, and with everyone's help,
I'll see what we can do to get around the ads. If that turns out to be
the only problem, I'm hoping that we'll be able to figure out a way
around it. (If anyone has any ideas at all on how it might be done ... no
matter how bizarre the idea may sound... by all means, drop me a private
email with it. Who knows what idea, no matter how far fetched, might
inspire something truly remarkable.

If we can get it to work, 95% of the HP200LX users in the USA will have
FREE direct access to this list's traffic on their palmtops. :-)

>Good luck. Please post the results here. I am definitely interested, and
I am
>sure many others would too.

Thanks Avi. I definitely will post the results here.

I did, however, get the extra serial cable for my HP200LX in the mail
today, so I'll be finishing my docking station project first.  As soon as
I'm done with that project, I'll report my results here on the list...
and then my plan is to hit the Juno project head-on.

That will give me a little more time to collect some preliminary ideas.
I'll be watching my email for any ideas anyone may have that might even
remotely help with this free email project. (installing Windows 3.0,
using it without a mouse, getting around the Juno ads, etc...)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:35:43 EST
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Subject:      Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP

> I guess I should have explained what "rcon" really is. "Rcon" is a
> network command that provides a "remote connection". It actually allows a
> user to take control of a distant node's keyboard and it echoes the
> distant node's screen to the local screen. During an "rcon" session, the
> HP200LX's screen is echoed onto my local large desktop monitor.
>
> I should however mention now that I actually used the "rcon" example
> because I felt that it would be easier to explain than the way I actually
> go about this.
>
> The HP200LX's C: drive is a network drive on my network, but my network
> actually tricks my desktop computer into thinking that it is it's own
> local drive H:. <g> I can simply make the HP200LX's C: drive my current
> drive on my desktop (drive H:) and access everything on the HP200LX's
> drive, even if the HP200LX is busy doing something else.
> My understanding of this mode is that all operations are accomplished
> with my local desktop CPU, and that my desktop computer is simply
> querying the HP200LX's drive. This is a very fast, easy and efficient way
> to access the HP200LX's drives without having to use the HP200LX's
> keyboard and screen, at all. I Just slide the HP200LX into it's base and
> access it's file system just like any other local desktop drive. :-)
>
> In fact, while I'm accessing my HP200LX's drives in this way, my HP200LX
> is usually tightly closed and out of sight! :-)
>
> I hope that better explains my thought processes and what I'm actually
> doing on this end, Pete.
>
> Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel

I have seen references to rcon but never tried it. I assume it only
does the dos text screen, not the sysmanager screen or cga graphics?

Also, what do you use to share your hp200lx's drive on the network or
is that a function of rcon as well?

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Crikey - You damn right you are going to be flamed for such an
incensative, egotistical remark and attitude. I can not believe that all
Englishmen subscribe to you views!

Aloha - bob     \ooo_

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> Crikey,
>
> If the paragraph below is an example of your poor English, please don't improve. You're putting the natives to shame!
>
> Maybe other English speakers feel differently, but I've always considered Jap to be a perfectly acceptable (albeit slang) abbreviation for Japanese - much as Brit for British. We have derogatory words for the Japanese, but I don't think Jap is one of them. Am I going to be sorry I posted this opinion?
>
> Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT> wrote...
> > Dear palmpotters I beg Your pardon...
> > I didn't know that "jap" is a distinct prejorative in English
> > and not a word to be used politely, as it has no humorous connotation.
> > I didn't mean to hurt the sensibility of anyone: it's just due to my
> > POOR english... :(
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk)
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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:16:17 +1200
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EXCUSE ME...
...is this an LX forum or a semantics/prejudice/etymology forum?

Please can we end this drivel and get back to the real subject before I
puke?

Roger Whitmarsh




Bob Graham <bgraham@ALOHA.NET> on 27/04/99 17:15:24

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Crikey - You damn right you are going to be flamed for such an
incensative, egotistical remark and attitude. I can not believe that all
Englishmen subscribe to you views!

Aloha - bob     \ooo_

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> From: Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK>
>
> Crikey,
>
> If the paragraph below is an example of your poor English, please don't
improve. You're putting the natives to shame!
>
> Maybe other English speakers feel differently, but I've always considered
Jap to be a perfectly acceptable (albeit slang) abbreviation for Japanese -
much as Brit for British. We have derogatory words for the Japanese, but I
don't think Jap is one of them. Am I going to be sorry I posted this
opinion?
>
> Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT> wrote...
> > Dear palmpotters I beg Your pardon...
> > I didn't know that "jap" is a distinct prejorative in English
> > and not a word to be used politely, as it has no humorous connotation.
> > I didn't mean to hurt the sensibility of anyone: it's just due to my
> > POOR english... :(
>
>
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On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Roger Whitmarsh wrote:

> ...is this an LX forum or a semantics/prejudice/etymology forum?

Well.... it's all of the above, but mainly an LX forum <g>.

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:34:11 -0700
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On 26-Apr-99, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:
> I imagine I'll just browse to the Yahoo movie page in WWW/LX//HV 
> http://movies.yahoo.com/  and save the text of my search..... (I'd do it
> now, but I seem to have left my modem at home).

I've been contemplating doing this for the last year or so.  I never found a
good movie listings page that was parsable.

I just downloaded a page from movies.yahoo.com (never even knew that
existed) and ran it through HTTX (on the Amiga, I'm sure there is an
equivalent program in the DOS world which converts HTML to text).

The resulting file could probably be easily parsed into a CDF which has
fields for "Theater", "Address", "Phone", "Title", and "Times".  This could
then be converted into a .GDB using gdbio or gdbload.  You could then sort
through the file using the Database sort or subset functions.

If I knew anything about programming in a DOS environment, it could be all
self-contained, but alas I only know how to kludge things between my Amiga
and the HPLX.

Does anyone know how to get a long listing of movies for the area rather
than having to get a short HTML page at a time?

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:24:11 +0930
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Subject:      Re: LXNNTP & Errors
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>

Jeff Johns writes:
> Does anyone know if there is a line which can be added to or changed in the
> wattcp.cfg file that will not cause '!' to be put in front of groups in the
> incoming.jn file when lxnntp encounters an error during an online run?

There is no such facility.  I can add it if you like.  Send me an email
with a proposal (i.e. what errors you do want a ! and what errors you
don't).

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Subject:      Re: EXMBatch and KeyM
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>

> > To configure ExmBatch to run a batch file called
> > "c:\postlx\www.bat", you would type the following:
> >
> >     c:\postlx\debug exmbatch.exm
> >     e 3857 "c:\postxl\www..bat" 0
> >     w
> >     q
>
> Okay, I can do that, but the docs talk about Software Carousel and the 385x
> numbers in the second line above and I don't have Software Carousel
> installed. Is the above '3857' the correct number that I should use?

3857 is the correct number for ExmBatch version 1.5 - note that
different versions will have a different number depending upon where
the C compiler puts a certain string.  Also note that you should read
the documentation to determine what you should put in location 3853 -
the default setting uses all memory (just like putting a '|' at the end
of the path in the AppMgr), waits for a key after the command
exists,and inhibits task switching.

A great opportunity exists here for someone to write a LXBatch or
LXHAPI program to configure ExmBatch instances ...

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:45:53 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question
Comments: To: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>

A Meshar writes:
> YES!!!! This dead, obsolete, incapable, slow machine has THREE email products
> SPECIFICALLY written for it, and several more adaptations of Internet Comms
> (Rod? Chime in, will ya?)

Since you asked ...

LXPOP & LXNNTP are best for me, and some other people who use email and
news like I do.  But the main reason for this is due to the fact that
if I don't like something that they do, then I just change them :-)

Note that LXPOP doesn't support most of the things that Steven and
Andreas are discussing ... Yet ;-)

If you want Internet Connectivity for the HP200LX, and you want to get
the source code for free, then look for LXTCP on SUPER.

There, that's my open-source freeware plug in for the week :-)

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:10:41 +0200
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<snip>
This almost makes me want to go out and buy a Palm-III/V-type device NOW!
</snip>

If this is all what you need the palmtop for, go and buy a PalmGameboy ...

Anyway, I think the LX can do everything the Gameboy does, only on a different way.

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              "stephan.goeldi" <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
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So are all the servers .jp offending?

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:54:24 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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Hi all,

I know this question has been asked many times before (and I curse myself
for not saving some of those messages ;-), but how small can I make a
useable installation of a decent C compiler (I only have a 6meg palmtop)?
I was thinking something along the lines of Turbo C v1 or 2. Nothing
fancy, such as the GUI. Just bare bones and standard libraries.

Currently I have PCC (Personal C Compiler) and while it is very small, it
is also rather archaic - it's from 1988!

I would like some of the newer features, prototypes, ANSI style
declarations, etc.

Are there any other small C compilers available besides Borland's? any
free ones?


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:40:50 +10
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              Alain <wyn@COMCEN.COM.AU>
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Subject:      Re: Minimal C(++) installation on the LX?
Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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try to install pacific C
it's free (for non comercial used) compilater.
it's good and small.
http://www.hitech.com.au/products/pacific.html
regards
Alain
> Hi all,
>
> I know this question has been asked many times before (and I curse myself
> for not saving some of those messages ;-), but how small can I make a
> useable installation of a decent C compiler (I only have a 6meg palmtop)?
> I was thinking something along the lines of Turbo C v1 or 2. Nothing
> fancy, such as the GUI. Just bare bones and standard libraries.
>
> Currently I have PCC (Personal C Compiler) and while it is very small, it
> is also rather archaic - it's from 1988!
>
> I would like some of the newer features, prototypes, ANSI style
> declarations, etc.
>
> Are there any other small C compilers available besides Borland's? any
> free ones?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Laust
>
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>


Al
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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:51:05 +0000
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I'm no pilot, but have been asked by a pilot if he may use my
LXPIC software with his pilot training software. I don't know,
if this software will run on the palmtop, at least the graphics
should ;-). Have a look at:

http://www.tomvale.on.ca

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              Brian Sugita <kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Well the term Jap in itself doesn't bother me and I'm japanese.  Its more
the way a word is used than the word itself.  At least for me. :)

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:41:54 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi all

I found these sites and info relevant to LX in a 1997 Mag called Dosworld.
Is it still around? The sites below are and seem to have good DOS info.

http://www.pressroom.com/~tglbatch/  Batch file techniques and samples

http://student.vub.ac.be/~dvandeun/internat.html  Founder of alt.msdos.batch
newsgroup

Also a copy/paste prog that MAY work on the LX  8088 processor yet ega req
(I think)

A listing of a batch synchronisation prog between directories. I'll enter it
if it cant be found on the web.  Freeware.

Recycled software 800-851-2425

There is a lot more useful info in just this issue I have.

Does anyone know if this mag is still predominately DOS based? In business?
Web site?

US 800 numbers (I am in Australia)

Dos World 800-343-0728
86 Elm St
Peterborough NH 03458

Any comments/info greatly appreciated

TIA

Russell

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              systemsconsulting@CSI.COM
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Subject:      Re: pilot training software
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> I'm no pilot, but have been asked by a pilot if he may use my
> LXPIC software with his pilot training software. I don't know,
> if this software will run on the palmtop, at least the graphics
> should ;-). Have a look at:
>
> http://www.tomvale.on.ca





I read the descriptions on the web site. It states that it's "For DOS,
Windows 3.x and Windows 9x. On CD-ROM and Floppy. It only requires an IBM
with 640K and VGA Card."

I don't think the LX will be equivalent to a VGA card.


Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com
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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:01:45 -0400
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Can anyone suggest some help:

I left my HP200LX on my seat after arriving from Frankfurt last =

night. UA977 Frankfurt/Dulles 3/31/99. I have reported it but =

there is only a recording on the number with a promise to get back =

in 10 days.

Any ideas?=1A

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:40:46 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Just throwing my two cents in - I would suspect that bypassing their ad
scheme violates some contract provisions for getting and using their
email system.  But I have never viewed or visited juno's site and I may
be completely wrong.

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:57:19 +0000
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> > http://www.tomvale.on.ca
>
> I read the descriptions on the web site. It states that it's "For DOS,
> Windows 3.x and Windows 9x. On CD-ROM and Floppy. It only requires an =
IBM
> with 640K and VGA Card."
>
> I don't think the LX will be equivalent to a VGA card.

If I remember right, he wanted to keep it CGA kompatible,
and was glad having found a graphics engine supporting CGA.
Those really interested in the software should ask him.

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I realize that the `reply' button caused my original message to
Raffaele to appear on the list, and that this was a mistake on my
part.

I sent Raffaele a note not so much to complain about his use, but
rather in the spirit that if I had said something equivalent in
a language foreign to me, I'd want to know about it. As a student
in England I learned, often through modestly embarassing situations
about Anglo/American differences with `fanny' and `knock-up' and
`toilet', among other words. I know that some of my mistakes in
French, German and Japanese have sometimes produced great hilarity
in those who heard them.

I agree with those who say that this is, at best, a _very_ tangential
issue to the purpose of HPLX. I waste your bandwith again only in the
hope that having started this mess, perhaps I can now finish it as
well...

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:25:09 -0400
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Russell,

I tried connecting to www.dosworld.com using an old bookmark that worked =
at
one time. The website has vanished.There was a lot of good info in the
DosWorld mag. However to download any of the mag's software you had to
subscribe to the magazine. It appears that's a moot issue. I haven't seen=

DosWorld on the shelves for several months. =


.ed.

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Hi Colin.

Tough luck about the LX. Considering it's been almost a month, the likelihood of
its return is probably not good.

My suggestion would be to declare it as stolen to your insurance company and buy
yourself a new one.

I lost my first LX about 2 years ago, having left it behind at a store, and was
about to shell out for a new one but thought to contact my insurance company
whose representative informed me:

1) Property is considered stolen if you left it somewhere (and knew where), but
it couldn't be found after taking reasonable steps to locate it.
2) File a police report (however painful it is to admit in writing that you left
it behind)
3) Stolen property is covered under most homeowner's policies

My insurance paid for almost the full cost of replacement of my LX, including
the 6mb/2x upgrade and modem.

Good luck.

- Longden

PS Hope you had a backup of your data.





colin cohen <ccohen5@COMPUSERVE.COM> on 04/27/99 06:01:45 AM

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Subject:  Lost HP200LX, help?




Can anyone suggest some help:

I left my HP200LX on my seat after arriving from Frankfurt last
night. UA977 Frankfurt/Dulles 3/31/99. I have reported it but
there is only a recording on the number with a promise to get back
in 10 days.

Any ideas?


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Power C (www.mixsoftware.com) is a small ANSI C compiler that runs fine on the
LX and needs under 1mb.  You can probably cut it to about 500k after stripping
out unnecessary libraries, tho I haven't tried to do so myself.

Cost is $20, but that includes a very good printed reference (almost worth the
price by itself).

Also, my Turbo C++ 1.0 installation is about 550k (EXEs and includes), sans GUI
and helps....I believe this is minimal.

- Longden





Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK> on 04/27/99 12:54:24 AM

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Subject:  Minimal C(++) installation on the LX?




Hi all,

I know this question has been asked many times before (and I curse myself
for not saving some of those messages ;-), but how small can I make a
useable installation of a decent C compiler (I only have a 6meg palmtop)?
I was thinking something along the lines of Turbo C v1 or 2. Nothing
fancy, such as the GUI. Just bare bones and standard libraries.

Currently I have PCC (Personal C Compiler) and while it is very small, it
is also rather archaic - it's from 1988!

I would like some of the newer features, prototypes, ANSI style
declarations, etc.

Are there any other small C compilers available besides Borland's? any
free ones?

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:21:29 -0500
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              Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM>
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I'm not sure how long ago - but Dos World mag has been incorporated into
the publisher's new mag - Practical Windows (?).  I think they bowed to
the inevitable, that the pure Dos-only user base isn't enough to sustain
a regular publication. But they still print stuff like batch file tips.

I know that I use Win98, 95, 3.1 and Dos depending on which computer I'm
at. I'm not an OS bigot, I've even used OS/2 Warp. <g>

Terry Owen (who has quite a stack of DW mag on her bookshelf)

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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: rcon (was WinCE is a symptom...)

John J Vanderstel writes:
>
> I guess I should have explained what "rcon" really is. "Rcon" is a
> network command that provides a "remote connection". It actually allows a
> user to take control of a distant node's keyboard and it echoes the
> distant node's screen to the local screen. During an "rcon" session, the
> HP200LX's screen is echoed onto my local large desktop monitor.

This sounds extremely cool!  Thanks for the fuller description, by
the way.  I have just one question--where does one find this "rcon?"
Is it part of Netware, or something else?  My apologies if you
mentioned this before and I missed it.

Ted

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You might be interested in Professional Master Key
(pmk32.zip on Simtel). Somewhat like Norton, it has
12 functions including unerase files and edit a raw disk map.
You can search for the corrupted name (or a good file name
in the same directory) and repair the disk directly  -  not for
the "faint of heart". As I remember directory entries are
24 bytes long and file name occupies 8 plus 3 bytes.
Works best on the LX with "mode bw80".


John Musielewicz wrote:

> Sometimes I get a file with a corrupted title. I do a lot of programming
> on the LX and if I screw up my code it can create a file with a corrupted
> title which I need to rename to work with. This is how I do it.
>

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The palmtop web server at http://hp200.ipair.com:7070/ is back up again,
and should be up most of the day (the next eight hours or so).  It's
running an alpha version of LXVWS (the LX Virtual Web Server or the LX
Velcroed Web Server, depending on who you ask).

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Pretty cool!  I just realized, I should have maintained a "peak usage"
counter to keep track of how many concurrent connections it's servicing.

Someone needs to setup an LX with multiple domain names to give the
"virtual" part a demonstration.  I could try, buy my connectivity sux
here in greater metropolitan Saginaw Oregon...

BTW - the "default domain" isn't set up (the one served to a pre-1.1
browser).  You should be able to set that up by adding a path with no
domain name to the left of the equal sign in the .DOM file.  Since you're
not servicing multiple domains, you can just point it to the same path
as hp200.ipair.com.

> The palmtop web server at http://hp200.ipair.com:7070/ is back up again,
> and should be up most of the day (the next eight hours or so).  It's
> running an alpha version of LXVWS (the LX Virtual Web Server or the LX
> Velcroed Web Server, depending on who you ask).
>
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>

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:07:26 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Subject:      HP LX <==> desktop interaction (was Re: WinCE is a symptom...)
Comments: To: John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <19990426.225717.3566.5.j_vanderstel@juno.com>; from John J
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1999-04-27-02:56:56 John J Vanderstel:
> I guess I should have explained what "rcon" really is. "Rcon" is a
> network command that provides a "remote connection". It actually allows a
> user to take control of a distant node's keyboard and it echoes the
> distant node's screen to the local screen. During an "rcon" session, the
> HP200LX's screen is echoed onto my local large desktop monitor.
>
> I should however mention now that I actually used the "rcon" example
> because I felt that it would be easier to explain than the way I actually
> go about this.
>
> The HP200LX's C: drive is a network drive on my network, but my network
> actually tricks my desktop computer into thinking that it is it's own
> local drive H:. ...
> In fact, while I'm accessing my HP200LX's drives in this way, my HP200LX
> is usually tightly closed and out of sight! :-)

I've evolved another approach to the problem, that works well for me.

My desktop system (actually a laptop by preference:-) runs a Unix (Red Hat
Linux by preference). I start by tackling the backup problem: lxtools under
Unix, together with CVS and a little glue script, give me efficient
incremental backups to a full live mirror image of the LX's filesystems, kept
on the desktop.

When I want to work on data that came from the LX, it's right there. I update
that incremental mirror at least once a day, first thing in the morning.

When I want to send something down, I lxcopy it down, perhaps zipping it first
if it's big enough to merit the extra step of unpacking after it arrives.
(Aside: wouldn't it be rocking cool to have a select handful of tools --- like
maybe VR, HV, dbv, dodbf, ... --- that could read directly from .zip
archives?) It gets pulled back next time a backup is taken.

It's sure nice having gdbdump and gdbload running on Unix.

-Bennett

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:36:30 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Palmtop Web server... again...
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On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Steven Lawson wrote:

> Someone needs to setup an LX with multiple domain names to give the
> "virtual" part a demonstration.  I could try, buy my connectivity sux
> here in greater metropolitan Saginaw Oregon...

Population 35.  <g>

> BTW - the "default domain" isn't set up (the one served to a pre-1.1
> browser).  You should be able to set that up by adding a path with no
> domain name to the left of the equal sign in the .DOM file.  Since
> you're not servicing multiple domains, you can just point it to the
> same path as hp200.ipair.com.

Oops.  Okay, it's set up now.  And also, I set it up to be virtual.  Try
out http://www.ipair.com:7070 for a very simple site without graphics.
And http://hp200.ipair.com:7070 has the big ol' graphics-laden (such as it
is) site.

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:05:31 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Palmtop Web server... again...
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Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, David Sargeant wrote at 10:36 AM 4/27/99
-0700
>And http://hp200.ipair.com:7070 has the big ol' graphics-laden (such as it
>is) site.

FWIW, I just tried a recursive get against this version of the site with
WGET and kept getting "End of file while parsing headers" messages.  If
it'll help, I can share details of my wget commandline and wgetrc file.

Later note: I received the index.html file successfully, but then got the
error on both robots.txt and sjulie.jpg.  Same result trying to download
the graphic directly (rather than recursively).

        C.

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river will continue to flow as always.  That's what these dishes are."
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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:15:29 -0700
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On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Steven (Casey) Karp wrote:

> FWIW, I just tried a recursive get against this version of the site
> with WGET and kept getting "End of file while parsing headers"
> messages.  If it'll help, I can share details of my wget commandline
> and wgetrc file.

You're right.  That's odd... it worked last night.  Okay, now it should
work fine.  Both of these are hosted on the same palmtop, using the
"virtual" feature of the web server.

http://www.ipair.com:7070/
http://hp200.ipair.com:7070/

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:44:03 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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I've long fantasized about getting an OS on a pocket computer that could
support a reasonably Posix API, with a good ANSI C compiler available; that
seems to mean a 32-bit CPU. I was willing to live with the limitations of the
200LX's keyboard and screen, because I hadn't seen anything better that could
possibly fit into a pocket.

I think I may be changing my mind. Just got my hands on a Sony PCG-505TX: does
a _Spiffy_ job of running Linux, weighs 2.6lbs, disappears into a bag. I'm
starting to think that my LX will remain satisfactory for me just as it is,
indefinitely; it'll be the roving appliance that's always by my side, and the
PIMs will continue to live there doing their PIMish jobs, but the more exotic
tasks for a portable general-purpose computer will move to the teensy laptop.

-Bennett

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:41:22 -0400
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Subject:      About the serial port's wake up feature

Hi All,

I did some tests and learned something interesting about the HP200LX's
serial port. If I set com1 to "off" in setup while my HP200LX is running
on batteries and then later connect it to A/C power, plug it into my
network and turn it off, the network will still be able to communicate
with HP200LX via it's com port... even though the setup screen still
shows it's comport as being off.

On the other hand, if I set com1 to off while my HP200LX is connected to
A/C power, turn off my HP200LX and then try to connect, my network's
query will not wake up the HP200LX's serial port and allow access to the
HP200LX's drives.

This appears to allow my HP200LX's serial port to always be off to extend
battery life when on the road, and still connect with my network upon
recieving a query from my network upon plugging in a network serial
cable. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:21:46 -0400
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Subject:      Rcon (remote connect) / clarification of my proposed project

Hi Pete and All,

>I have seen references to rcon but never tried it. I assume it only
>does the dos text screen, not the sysmanager screen or cga graphics?

You are right that it will echo only DOS text and ansi screens.

>Also, what do you use to share your hp200lx's drive on the network or
>is that a function of rcon as well?

  I've used the Little Big Lan (LBL) network software in my home office
for drive sharing for 2 years now. I currently have two Windows 95 nodes
connected via ethernet and my HP200LX connected via a serial link. ($75
per site. No charge per node, at all. You can find additional info on
that proprietary network software at
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/imodes)

  The "Rcon" functionality is included with the network software for
optional installation and use. "Rcon DOES require an initial network
connection to function. I don't know if Rcon (and Ncon) or the version
that I'm using is proprietary or not.

  Just to clarify "rcon" further... the LBL network software also
supports concurrent modem network connections to my lan. One may rcon to
a remote node located on the other side of the world via a modem
connection and therefore control that node as though actually there
punching it's keyboard. The remote node's screen is echoed back through
the modem connection. One could use this feature to check in on or even
reboot a server while away from the office. The only difference in doing
it via a modem network connection is the reduced connection speed.

  BTW, I just found out that I had misunderstood an earlier email. That
person had run Juno on his 386... NOT on his HP200LX. :-(  So, I now know
of no one else who has tried this on a HP200LX.

  Again, I would have to load Windows 3.0 on my HPLX and then try loading
the Juno software. It's possible that it will require EMS, XMS or even a
VGA screen. I just don't know.

  Please note, however... If I find that there is already another free
way to exchange email on my HP200LX, I won't pursue the rather uncertain
Juno project any further.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:49:47 -0700
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On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Bennett Todd wrote:

> I think I may be changing my mind. Just got my hands on a Sony
> PCG-505TX: does a _Spiffy_ job of running Linux, weighs 2.6lbs,
> disappears into a bag.

What are the size dimensions?

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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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I curious why the Libretto (mine cost <$700 and weighs 1.7lb) which
also does a _Spiffy_ job of running Linux isn't a better solution...
(IIRC the Sony PCG-505TX is $2200 -> $2500 i.e. the price of 3 of
my Librettos)...

Bennett Todd wrote:
>
> I've long fantasized about getting an OS on a pocket computer that could
> support a reasonably Posix API, with a good ANSI C compiler available; that
> seems to mean a 32-bit CPU. I was willing to live with the limitations of the
> 200LX's keyboard and screen, because I hadn't seen anything better that could
> possibly fit into a pocket.
>
> I think I may be changing my mind. Just got my hands on a Sony PCG-505TX: does
> a _Spiffy_ job of running Linux, weighs 2.6lbs, disappears into a bag. I'm
> starting to think that my LX will remain satisfactory for me just as it is,
> indefinitely; it'll be the roving appliance that's always by my side, and the
> PIMs will continue to live there doing their PIMish jobs, but the more exotic
> tasks for a portable general-purpose computer will move to the teensy laptop.
>
> -Bennett
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I received the following from a pal.  Can anyone help
him out?

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:51:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: al chin <hobchi@hotmail.com>
Subject: Macros
To: katd@cwix.com

Kat
Can you ask on the list, if you don't know...
How to run the LX prime.mac file?

I lost my macros but I have the file
the problem is I can't get the macros back
into the keys. There must be a way or they
wouldn't have the file.

yor pal al...........................

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:18:04 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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Comments: To: David Ness <DNess@Home.Com>
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              1999 at 03:00:38PM -0400
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1999-04-27-19:00:38 David Ness:
> I curious why the Libretto (mine cost <$700 and weighs 1.7lb) which
> also does a _Spiffy_ job of running Linux isn't a better solution...
> (IIRC the Sony PCG-505TX is $2200 -> $2500 i.e. the price of 3 of
> my Librettos)...

Different strokes for different folks. The Libretto is definitely cool
technology.

It didn't make it for me. I can't touch-type on it, and its screen won't cut
it for me as a workstation; it doesn't fit in a pocket, and yet it seems just
a little too edgy to work with to adequately reward me for the effort of
toting it about in my bag. This is clearly a matter of taste.

For whatever it's worth, I've been working on my 505TX all day now, and the
keyboard is still fine, I'm touch-typing on it as fast as I can on a full-size
keyboard. And the screen is lovely. I'm moving in. This is home.

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Comments: To: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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1999-04-27-18:49:47 David Sargeant:
> 1999-04-27 Bennett Todd:
> > Just got my hands on a Sony PCG-505TX: does a _Spiffy_ job of running
> > Linux, weighs 2.6lbs, disappears into a bag.
>
> What are the size dimensions?

10.2" * 0.87" * 8.2".

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On 04-27 02:15pm CDT, the following was written:

> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:51:41 -0700 (PDT)
> From: al chin <hobchi@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Macros
> To: katd@cwix.com

Did "our pal al" leave the list?!?!

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On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Did "our pal al" leave the list?!?!

I'm not sure about that, but here's a possible solution to his problem.

Open the System Macros application (ctrl+more on my palmtop, or "M" in the
Application Manager) and do File... Open and open up the macro file you
still have.  Hit F10 (don't know if that's needed but I'd do it anyway),
and then just exit.  Your macros should be back on the function keys where
they belong.

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Kat Deutscher wrote:
> How to run the LX prime.mac file?

Pur ir in c:\_dat
Run "System Macros" - press MORE then M
MENU F O
Hopefully you see prime.mac listed - TAB to it and press F10.
That's it!

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Bennett Todd writes:
> I've long fantasized about getting an OS on a pocket computer that could
> support a reasonably Posix API, with a good ANSI C compiler available; that
> seems to mean a 32-bit CPU. I was willing to live with the limitations of the
> 200LX's keyboard and screen, because I hadn't seen anything better that could
> possibly fit into a pocket.
>
> I think I may be changing my mind. Just got my hands on a Sony PCG-505TX: does
> a _Spiffy_ job of running Linux, weighs 2.6lbs, disappears into a bag. I'm
> starting to think that my LX will remain satisfactory for me just as it is,
> indefinitely; it'll be the roving appliance that's always by my side, and the
> PIMs will continue to live there doing their PIMish jobs, but the more exotic
> tasks for a portable general-purpose computer will move to the teensy laptop.

Laptops are nice but they get horrible battery life. Plus when the battery
goes dead you can't just pop into the nearest store and plock down a couple
bucks and be up and running again. After this<g>. Have you looked at the
Tinynote? What do you think of the libretto? What are the dimensions of the
sony?

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From: John Musielewicz <a123456@bitstream.net>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Off-Topic: tiny laptops


>Bennett Todd writes:
<<snip>>
>
>Laptops are nice but they get horrible battery life. Plus when the battery
>goes dead you can't just pop into the nearest store and plock down a couple
>bucks and be up and running again. After this<g>. Have you looked at the
>Tinynote? What do you think of the libretto? What are the dimensions of the
>sony?

Ive been searching out various notebook/handheld setups for a while. Here
are
a few comments from my experience.

100lx/200lx/1000cx - Cant beat the battery life and versatility, but they
are limited
in their ability to run more 'current' software applications.

PC-110 - Near 100/200lx size, with battery life comparable to a notebook
with a
color screen, and extremely versatile booting options.  If you need more
power than
the 200lx, and can live with the short battery life... this machine is
amazing.  It also
uses standard sony camcorder batteries making it easy to find spares.

Libretto 50ct - about 4/3 the size of a PC-110 with similar battery life,
but also moves
up to a Pentium CPU, 800mb HD, etc.   This is my 'notebook' of choice right
now as
its the size of a VHS tape, with a full PC capable of running Win95, Linux,
etc.

Sony 505 (any of the series) - This machine is more a traditional notebook,
albeit a
very sexy thin one.  It has a beautiful large screen, various Pentium
processors
(depending on model), and everything you expect from a modern notebook.   I
would
take one of these in a heartbeat as a notebook, but not as a replacement for
an HP100/200.

HP Omnibook 300/425/430
These machines are incredible for their time, and can be found quite
affordably today (I
should know, I tried to get one at auction and ended up with 4).  These
2.8lb wonders have
DOS+Windows+Excel+Word+HP Pims in rom, will get up to 9hrs battery life from
their
Nimh batteries and in a pinch can run off 4 AA batteries.  Ive been using
one as a traveling
companion on trips where I'll be outside alot as their screen can't be beat
outdoors, and
find them similar to a large 'full size keyboard' version of a 200lx with
the added bonus of
running windows.

At present im using the Libretto as my primary notebook, a Palm V as my PIM
(although I
always seem to fall back on my trusty 100lx whenever I stray), and the HP
Omnibook 300 for
outside use.

If you have questions about any of the following, fire away.

Hope this helps.

Dan
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The Sony has a (Mfrs est) 2.5h battery (net discussions say this is,
in practice, an overestimate) or 6h from an extended battery (I think
that's probably an overstatement, too). It is, IIRC, a 300mhz with
64mb + 6.4gb, 10" screen and decent sized keyboard. It is heavier
than a libretto and bigger, surface-wise, but thinner.

The `huge' differences are, IMO, _much_ better screen and keyboard
for the Sony. _Much_ cheaper for the libretto. The Sony is in the
$2200+ range while my libretto comes in at $700, (substiantally less
than _lots_ of today's 200lxs).

The question of `better' is clearly _deeply_ personal. I need to be
able to carry all of my work on my travels, but I don't really need to
actually do a lot of work while I travel. I need to get to things, and
if something is bothering me I may want to work on it a bit, but I'm
_not_ spending hours doing desk work while I am on the road. Ergo, the
keyboard and screen limitations of the libretto don't bother me, any
more than it bothers me to use my 200. I'm much happier carrying the
lighter little machine and less troubled by the thoughts of loss because it is so cheap.

If I had to actually _do_ a lot of work while on the road, then I'd
appreciate the higher quality of the Sony screen and keyboard and be
willing to put up with worrying about the $2k+. On the other hand, if
I really had to do that, I'd probably go up to an 366mhz Inspiron 7k and
get a 15" beautiful screen that I could use to watch DVD movies...

Having dumped my Palm and gone back to the 200, I now am quite content
with 200+Libretto+Desktop. I am finding that I use the 200 less, though,
as a good cellular phone has caused me to drop using the 200 as a
phone book, and if the phone's calendar features ever become decently
operative, it may end up getting left behind after long and faithful
service.

John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> Laptops are nice but they get horrible battery life. Plus when the battery
> goes dead you can't just pop into the nearest store and plock down a couple
> bucks and be up and running again. After this<g>. Have you looked at the
> Tinynote? What do you think of the libretto? What are the dimensions of the
> sony?
>

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On 04-27 04:12pm CDT, the following was written:

> it may end up getting left behind after long and faithful
> service.

I'll give you $50 for it <g>.

Jeff


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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Free email for the HP200LX?

>The 200LX already has free internet mail access. Check out
www.palmtop.com
>It uses the built-in CCmail.

I don't remember who posted the above comment, so does anyone know if the
email service described above requires a long distance phone call to
connect? I found no reference at all on that website about a nationwide
local or 800 connection number.

If it requires a long distance call to connect from Grand Rapids,
Michigan, it's definitely not free for me.

However, if we all can already connect to this email service without
incuring phone charges, then it would be rather pointless to pursue using
free Juno email on a HP200LX that would require Windows 3.0.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
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This service requires long distance charges, unless you are in the local
area for the service's phone number.  But!... it happens so fast, that you
might not care, unless it's your main (only?) email provider.

I have a "free" account with Palmtop.com, but other than that I have no
other association with them.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John J Vanderstel SMTP:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM
>
        <www.palmtop.com>

> I don't remember who posted the above comment, so does anyone know if the
> email service described above requires a long distance phone call to
> connect?
>
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Hi people on list,

I'm struggling around to get my 200LX contacts synchronized / transferred in
a proper shape to outlook 98/97 and can't get it done to satisfaction>
Is anybody there who would be willing to help me out I',m that I wouldn't be
the only person who have this problem.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
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What's the problem, and do you have CPACK200?

Michael Berrier wrote:
>
> Hi people on list,
>
> I'm struggling around to get my 200LX contacts synchronized / transferred in
> a proper shape to outlook 98/97 and can't get it done to satisfaction>
> Is anybody there who would be willing to help me out I',m that I wouldn't be
> the only person who have this problem.
> Thanks in advance for your answers.
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Actually, I don't think it's free. I think it's a "try it out and send money
if you like it" deal. I tried it out but found it wasn't all that useful for
me. It was nice to finally use CC:mail...

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: HPLX-L Free email for the HP200LX?

This service requires long distance charges, unless you are in the local
area for the service's phone number.  But!... it happens so fast, that
you
might not care, unless it's your main (only?) email provider.

I have a "free" account with Palmtop.com, but other than that I have no
other association with them.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John J Vanderstel SMTP:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM
>
        <www.palmtop.com>

> I don't remember who posted the above comment, so does anyone know if
the
> email service described above requires a long distance phone call to
> connect?
>
> John Vander Stel
>

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Ed Keefe wrote:
>I tried connecting to www.dosworld.com using an old bookmark that worked at
>one time. The website has vanished.There was a lot of good info in the
>DosWorld mag.

Thanks for trying Ed

I wonder if Dosworld has or would create a CD of old issues and info? Anyone
able to investigate? Any interest?

Anyone with old issues they want to sell?

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Longden wrote:
my insurance company
>whose representative informed me:
>
>1) Property is considered stolen if you left it somewhere (and knew where), but
>it couldn't be found after taking reasonable steps to locate it.

>3) Stolen property is covered under most homeowner's policies

Hi Longden & list.

Policies I have had exclude property left in a public place. Which insurance
Co did you use? Anyone else had experiences like Colin has?

Colin may I suggest a careful check of your policy wording. I've had 2 LXs
lost/stolen in public places and could claim neither one.

Good luck

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Hi,
thanks for the reply. Yes, Ido have theCPPack but can't get done .

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Subject:      Re: DosWorld Magazine
Comments: To: Terry Owen <towen@QUINTREX.COM>

>I'm not sure how long ago - but DOS World mag has been incorporated into
>the publisher's new mag - Practical Windows (?).

Yep,

I'm still a subscriber to DOS World and there's a little spot on the
corner of the new magazine (I think it is Practical Windows) that says
something like, "Now Incorporates DOS World" they couldn't get away w/ "DOS
World has been assimilated" ;-)  .

You get a CD full of utils. w/ each edition; some still are DOS specific.

>I know that I use Win98, 95, 3.1 and DOS depending on which computer I'm
>at. I'm not an OS bigot, I've even used OS/2 Warp. <g>

Ditto - the Army even forced me to learn/use BTOS Burroghs (sp?) Task
Operating System for a bit. since my 1st OS was the Amiga's, I consider
myself immune to our Sergeant Major's MAC preaching.  I wanted to use the
word "multi-cultural" but I'm searching for its OS equivalent.

I've always held that, "You can't drive nails with a shovel; but I'll be
damned if I'm going to dig a ditch with a hammer!" that's my back-woods way
of preaching right back at her (the Sergeant Major here) that we should
always use the right tool for the right job ;-)   .

I've found some pretty useful shareware on the disks, but nothing I use in
my LX read: It's mostly Win-stuff.

Disturbing to hear the DOS World website is off-line, I had paid an extra
bit to get to their archives ..... I'll have to check to see if I have any
$$ due me! <<can't remember if that portion was as long as my mag.
subscription or not, I'm sure I have the answer in my LX! Well, *somewhere,*
I'm still trying to develop the best method of keeping track of all the
stuff that happens to us each day ;-) >>

--tim



CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-7608

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:09:57 +10
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I was looking for this sort of solution.
is there a place where you can download a demo version?
regards
Alain
PS: did you try to connect the LX trought an Accton 2216 card?

>  I've used the Little Big Lan (LBL) network software in my home office
> for drive sharing for 2 years now. I currently have two Windows 95 nodes
> connected via ethernet and my HP200LX connected via a serial link. ($75
> per site. No charge per node, at all. You can find additional info on that
> proprietary network software at
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/imodes)


Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
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When originally shopping for a small computer I ran across the one whos
specs are below  yet wisely chose the 200LX  :))

Very close for me though.

LCD 640x200 CGA 18.2cm(~7")wide 6.5cm (~2.5")high
CPU  F8680 compatible
Bios Phoenix C&T superstate
DOS  DR Dos6.0 + PalmDos 1.0
PIM Built in Rom
IO Serial+Parallel+I/R+CGA out
PCMCIA x1
SIZE 23x12x3cm (~9x~5x~1.25inches)
KB Standard PC 86 keys
Battery AAx2 / 8VDC 300Ma from AC adapter
Operating 15 hours from AA
Data protection 90 days from dead batteries
Weight 0.5KG (less than 1 lb)
Speed selectable Hi/Lo
Memory/Storage
RAM 640K
ROM 1MB
SRAM 128k
EXT HD 512MB

Price was less than the 2MBLX Taiwan made.

Does anyone know specs on the CPU?

Mack is this a possible for LX Motherboard Replacement?

Russell

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Does anyone know of a service that would automatically go to a certain URL
and then mail that page's contents to a certain email address? Something
that is kind of like Netminder? I have a certain page that I visit everyday
to get some information and was thinking that it would be nice if there was
something available on the internet that could save me the time and hassle
of doing this manually.

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:32:46 -0400
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I must be missing something in the question Jeff.

What do you want to `trigger' the operation. It is pretty easy to
get the contents of a web page written into a file by a short
bit of code in many different executable environments (I use J,
for example). Once it is on your machine in a file, clearly it
can be mailed.

I guess what I'm missing is where you're hung up in this process:
(1) getting something to run on your machine on schedule; (2) getting
a page into a file given a url; or (3) getting that file mailed...

Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a service that would automatically go to a certain URL
> and then mail that page's contents to a certain email address? Something
> that is kind of like Netminder? I have a certain page that I visit everyday
> to get some information and was thinking that it would be nice if there was
> something available on the internet that could save me the time and hassle
> of doing this manually.
>
> Jeff
>

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On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, David Ness wrote:

> I must be missing something in the question Jeff.

Oops :) I did leave out some important information. I need something that
will automatically mail me the page at a certain time everyday. I know
there are web based services that will send out weather and news and
sports scores and was just wondering if anyone knew of a service that
would allow you to specify a certain URL to be mailed, I don't even care
if it had an advertisement attached.

Jeff

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Subject:      Re: vi Tutorial

>Hi David,
>
>have you looked at the text editor Joe - less complex than vi and
>readily available (you've probably got it already)

You missed the point. I dont really want to use vi as a n editor on my palmtop
I want to use Calvin on my palmtop (and HV and the GDb app) in order to
LEARN vi, so that I can use it on my new Linux desktop.

The point is that the palmtop, IMHO, is an invaluable learning tool.


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davidb@cimatron.co.il
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Jeff,

Does the get utility from www/lx not cover your needs? From get.doc:

"GET.EXE is a simple utility that supports offline reading of Web
pages.

<snip>

GET downloads all documents that are listed in a given file and saves
them to a local file. The file with the list of documents to download
consists of one or more lines, each specifying a URL and a local file
name, e.g.

 http://www.dasoft.com/ c:\tmp\file1.htm
 http://www.dasoft.com/feedback.htm c:\tmp\file2.htm
 <snip>
 "
 - you could launch www/lx and get from an appointment if you wanted to
 do this on a regular basis.

GaryS

> Does anyone know of a service that would automatically go to a certain =
URL
> and then mail that page's contents to a certain email address? Something
> that is kind of like Netminder? I have a certain page that I visit =
everyday
> to get some information and was thinking that it would be nice if there =
was
> something available on the internet that could save me the time and =
hassle
> of doing this manually.

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Subject:      Free Juno email for the HP200LX?

Hi All,

I originally got the following note as a private email, but since it has
also now shown up on the list, I'll go ahead and reply to the list, as
well.

>Just throwing my two cents in - I would suspect that bypassing their ad
>scheme violates some contract provisions for getting and using their
>email system.  But I have never viewed or visited juno's site and I may
>be completely wrong.

I pondered that thought quite deeply too. I have not reverse engineered
the software and am not changing it into an unnatural state, in any way.
I'm talking about merely deleting unwanted data files, that's all.

I'll have to check the contract again just in case they mention something
about this now, so thanks for reminding me... But I still see no way that
they could proclaim it illegal to delete simple data files from my hard
drive.

At the time that I rigged up that work around for a friend, I found
nothing in the contract that prohibited one from simply deleting extra
data files. I originally did that for them only because their machine
(which was well within Juno's minimum specifications at the time) was
unable to process some of the new animated ads that Juno was allowing the
advertisers to use without making typing all but impossible. I was merely
deleting excess data files, thus making it possible to continue use of
the free email software for it's intended purpose.

Because the service and software is free (and can even be legally copied
for friends), Juno eventually distanced itself from it's customers so
severely that they no longer took calls from their customers unless the
customers used a 900 help number and paid by the minute for the
privilege. Juno stopped offering a reasonable way for customers to report
problems, so they didn't even know that there was a problem, at that
time. Juno customers were forced to fend for themselves, so that's what
we did.

Again, the ads that the Juno software automatically downloads are
actually simple separate data files. If the Juno software were to be
updated so that downloaded data was automatically integrated into it's
own internal database, then I'd be extremely wary of disassembling their
proprietary internal database to delete internal data.

I'll have to look at their contract again, but I still know of no law
that requires me to keep unwanted data files on my hard drive.

I'm just hoping that Juno doesn't decide to change their software so that
it starts using an internal database to store ads.

Please let me know if you feel that my logic is flawed in some way. I'm
open to your thoughts on this matter.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

___________________________________________________________________
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Subject:      Re: Off topic Insurance was Lost HP200LX, help?
Comments: cc: rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU

   >Policies I have had exclude property left in a public place. Which
   >insurance Co did you use? Anyone else had experiences like Colin
Message-Id: <19990428054952.DOEK23902@12.72.154.111>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 05:49:52 +0000

My insurance carrier is Auto Club of Southern California (yes they do homes
too).  I left my LX on a shopping cart in the parking lot of a store....you
can't get much more public than that.

   >Colin may I suggest a careful check of your policy wording. I've

Good advice. Maybe I just lucked out cuz ACSC makes most of their money off
our cars.  You don't have anything to lose by calling your agent tho.

   >had 2 LXs lost/stolen in public places and could claim neither one.

I see you live in Oz...could there be a difference in how they handle
claims vs the US? Or did your losses occur while living elsewhere?

- Longden

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Jeff
for a time I had the "get" function in www/lx set up to download the front
page of the London Times.  I put it in my calendar to execute at about 4 am
each morning and would have the page when I got up.  I stopped doing it
(didn't find the time to read it every morning).  The set up came straight
from the instructions in the get documentation.  There was also an article
in Palmtop Paper about 2 years ago on setting this up.
Ron

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I think Jeff's point is being missed.

It seems that he is looking for a service on the net that will automatically
email him a specific web page at a specifed time during the day.

Example:  There is a certain news page that you look at once a day.  It
would be nice to have it emailed to you once a day so you don't have to go
on the WWW to read it.  I think utilities that would be run from the palmtop
defeat the purpose as you could just as easy get on the web to read it!

I could be wrong though ;-)

Sean

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this?


Jeff,

Does the get utility from www/lx not cover your needs? From get.doc:

"GET.EXE is a simple utility that supports offline reading of Web
pages.

<snip>

GET downloads all documents that are listed in a given file and saves
them to a local file. The file with the list of documents to download
consists of one or more lines, each specifying a URL and a local file
name, e.g.

http://www.dasoft.com/ c:\tmp\file1.htm
http://www.dasoft.com/feedback.htm c:\tmp\file2.htm
<snip>
"
- you could launch www/lx and get from an appointment if you wanted to
do this on a regular basis.

GaryS

> Does anyone know of a service that would automatically go to a certain URL
> and then mail that page's contents to a certain email address? Something
> that is kind of like Netminder? I have a certain page that I visit
everyday
> to get some information and was thinking that it would be nice if there
was
> something available on the internet that could save me the time and hassle
> of doing this manually.

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Hi All,

I'll be away from my work computer again for a bit; so please
cc: this addr. and/or the hotmail one below.

I've seen that some folks use their LXs w/ the Apex Data v.34
cellular modem. I'm still waiting for one adapter for the
cell phone (backordered at Mob. Planet) but wanted to use the
modem w/ a land line.

Are there any special init. codes, steps or drivers I must
use w/ the LX? WWW/LX doesn't seem to recognize it, and I
don't think I've had any signs of success w/ the built in COM
program either (can't remember all I've tried).

TIA,

--tim

PS. Yep, I'm one of the "double-subscribed" full reeipt at
work, digest at home .... must be an LX addict ;-)   .

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On 04-28 06:59am CDT, the following was written:

> I could be wrong though ;-)

Nope, you are correct :) I do appreciate everyone's input. Someone mentioned
a script on my shell account and that may be the best way to accomplish the
task.

Jeff


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> Does anyone know of a service that would automatically go to a certain URL
> and then mail that page's contents to a certain email address? Something
> that is kind of like Netminder? I have a certain page that I visit everyday
> to get some information and was thinking that it would be nice if there was
> something available on the internet that could save me the time and hassle
> of doing this manually.

You could probably write a shell script to do this for you on you shell
account.  Problem might be scheduling it to run.  Many ISPs, mine included,
have completely crippled the system scheduler for normal users.  They have
always disabled the AT command, but until about a year ago you could still
schedule things through a local crontab.  But they've even disabled this
feature, as a security measure.  Your ISP may be more trusting, or perhaps
you could explain your intentions and get an exception for your job.

-Chris

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>Policies I have had exclude property left in a public place. Which insurance
>Co did you use? Anyone else had experiences like Colin has?
>


I had my first HP100 "disappear" within a couple of weeks of buying it. I
was on a business trip and knew whn I last had it, and when I discovered it
missing.

I called my State Farm agent, and got reimbursed for my loss. I don't
remember much about the deductible, % recovered, etc.

There is something that I do remember about whether it is classified as
personal or business property that made a difference. Althought I was on a
business trip, I considered it personal property not used for bsuiness.

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> Well, *somewhere,*...
>I'm still trying to develop the best method of keeping track of all the
>stuff that happens to us each day ;-) >>

Tim:

You might want to check out FFDB, recently uploaded to SUPER. I have used
InfoSelect for collecting random bits of info that are immediately
necessary, as well as some that may one day become necessary. FFDB is
similar in function. As long as you enter the info into the database, you
can search by date or by words to find it again.

And best of all, the cost is only $10, so it is worth a try.

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You need the cic100 line - find the example either in the d: rom autoexec.bat or the c:autoexec.bat.  Remove any REM statement.

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I have the HP PIM files form the Omnibook installed on my desktop machine.
Using these I can read my palmtop ADB and PDB files form the PCMCIA card on
which they are kept. (Makes it easier on my aging eyes.)

Is there any way to do the same with the database files? I can't find any
apps in the Omnibook files but was hoping someone could give me a
definitive answer.

TIA

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I don't believe there's a built-in solution, but you can use PALRUN and DBV from
the SUPER site to run at least a PAL-based viewer on the desktop.

Also, if you have CPACK200 (from the Connectivity package), it includes the HP
database app, tho it's not a Windows app like your Omnibook PIM stuff are.

- Longden






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I have the HP PIM files form the Omnibook installed on my desktop machine.
Using these I can read my palmtop ADB and PDB files form the PCMCIA card on
which they are kept. (Makes it easier on my aging eyes.)

Is there any way to do the same with the database files? I can't find any
apps in the Omnibook files but was hoping someone could give me a
definitive answer.

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Doesn't the connectivity pack do it?

Alan Peres wrote:
>
> I have the HP PIM files form the Omnibook installed on my desktop machine.
> Using these I can read my palmtop ADB and PDB files form the PCMCIA card on
> which they are kept. (Makes it easier on my aging eyes.)
>
> Is there any way to do the same with the database files? I can't find any
> apps in the Omnibook files but was hoping someone could give me a
> definitive answer.
>
> TIA
>
> Alan

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hey

i have an HP 100lx (1meg RAM) with a screwed up display--it turns on,
but all you see is 10-15 black horizontal lines, a couple dozen grey
horizontal lines, and a couple vertical lines. you can see just
enough of the screen to ascertain that the computer still works--but
thats it. the problem started after i left the unit out in my car
during a cold snap this past winter.

ive been told that its repairable; the "zebra" connector inside the
display side of the case needs cleaning.  is this, assuming i have
rudimentary electronics/soldering skills, something a normal human
can do at home? or should i send it to thaddeus? or should i just buy
another 100/200lx somewhere?

im determined to stay on this platform, so no suggestions to move to
a CE machine, please!

thanks

r.b.

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Hi Phil,

>This service requires long distance charges, unless you are in the local
>area for the service's phone number.  But!... it happens so fast, that
you
>might not care, unless it's your main (only?) email provider.
>
>I have a "free" account with Palmtop.com, but other than that I have no
>other association with them.

  You make a good point there, Phil. That's pretty close to free if you
figure that a quick 1 minute download should cost no more than a quarter
from almost anywhere if CC:Mail's dialing setup is flexible enough to
handle calling card procedures.

  In fact, if I understand correctly, Palmtop.com will echo your mail to
other email address, as well. I just can't tell from the information on
their website if the server will echo email to other addresses outside of
it's own domain, and if so, if the user is required to pay the $60
registration fee and/or pay a monthly charge for that privilege.

  Phil (or anyone else with a free Palmtop.com account):  Can you answer
these questions? Do you have any other thoughts on this possible use of
Palmtop.com mail?

  My thoughts are that we could have the Palmtop.com server echo all mail
to our normal email accounts for home access and then access the Palmtop
server only when we're on the road. If this procedure works well in
actual practice, the interface is easy to use, and the whole system is
flexible enough for my purposes, then it would be close enough to free
for me.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Hi all,

I've just posted the first pass of a converter which will convert
Outlook Contacts to the PDB or GDB format for the 100/200LX. You can
get it at my web page, http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html

It uses OLE automation to pull data from Outlook (you must have
Outlook to run it), and then commands Steve Roth's GDBDUMP and GDBLOAD
program to get data into the LX format.

=46eatures (so far):
* Individually select folders within Outlook's main Contacts folder
for export.

* Works with any PDB or GDB file.

* Lets you map fields however you want between the two.

* Multiple Outlook fields can be mapped into one HPLX field, so if the
first one is an empty field, it will use the data from another field.

This is a Visual Basic 5 program, and requires you have the VB5
runtime files installed (there is a pointer to this on the above web
page). Please let me know if this is useful.=20

One thing I need to know - I think Outlook installs the file
Msoutl85.olb. If you have Outlook and don't have it, please let me
know because I'll have to include it in the distribution.

Another feature I'm considering is converting from the LX to Outlook.
Would anyone use this?

--=20
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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:19:14 -0500
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The Palmtop.com service has a web page. http://www.palmtop.com
If you look there, all the questions you are asking are answered there.  The
page is small and palmtop "friendly".

Short answer, the basic service is "free" but any additional services (mail
forwarding, additional addresses, etc.) cost money.  The total package, less
domain registration service is $60US.

My method of use is to have my mailbox forward my mail to Palmtop.com when I
am out of town.  This way, people do not have to know the Palmtop.com
address and I don't have to worry about mail going there and getting
overlooked when I am back in town.  When I reply from the Palmtop.com
mailbox, I include instructions for replying to help the recipient ignore
the P.com address.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John J Vanderstel SMTP:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM
>
>   In fact, if I understand correctly, Palmtop.com will echo your mail to
> other email address, as well. I just can't tell from the information on
> their website if the server will echo email to other addresses outside of
> it's own domain, and if so, if the user is required to pay the $60
> registration fee and/or pay a monthly charge for that privilege.
>
>   Phil (or anyone else with a free Palmtop.com account):  Can you answer
> these questions? Do you have any other thoughts on this possible use of
> Palmtop.com mail?
>
> John Vander Stel
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Seems like I recall that palmtop.com can allow POP3 access to their
mailbox for registered users.  That would allow you to use them as your
permanent address, using CCMail on the road and Eudora/Netscape/Etc while
in the office.  No need for your recipients to figure out how to reply to
a different address.  Heck, if you wanted them to mail your work address,
a couple beers to the MIS guys (or Jolt colas, depending on the geek
factor there) should get you changed to being an alias for your
palmtop.com address.  Thus, you@your.work.com forwards to you@palmtop.com

> The Palmtop.com service has a web page. http://www.palmtop.com
> If you look there, all the questions you are asking are answered there.  The
> page is small and palmtop "friendly".
>
> Short answer, the basic service is "free" but any additional services (mail
> forwarding, additional addresses, etc.) cost money.  The total package, less
> domain registration service is $60US.
>
> My method of use is to have my mailbox forward my mail to Palmtop.com when I
> am out of town.  This way, people do not have to know the Palmtop.com
> address and I don't have to worry about mail going there and getting
> overlooked when I am back in town.  When I reply from the Palmtop.com
> mailbox, I include instructions for replying to help the recipient ignore
> the P.com address.
>
> Phil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John J Vanderstel SMTP:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM
> >
> >   In fact, if I understand correctly, Palmtop.com will echo your mail to
> > other email address, as well. I just can't tell from the information on
> > their website if the server will echo email to other addresses outside of
> > it's own domain, and if so, if the user is required to pay the $60
> > registration fee and/or pay a monthly charge for that privilege.
> >
> >   Phil (or anyone else with a free Palmtop.com account):  Can you answer
> > these questions? Do you have any other thoughts on this possible use of
> > Palmtop.com mail?
> >
> > John Vander Stel
> >
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Tim R <71250.1550@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> I've seen that some folks use their LXs w/ the Apex Data v.34
> cellular modem. I'm still waiting for one adapter for the
> cell phone (backordered at Mob. Planet) but wanted to use the
> modem w/ a land line.
>
> Are there any special init. codes, steps or drivers I must
> use w/ the LX? WWW/LX doesn't seem to recognize it, and I
> don't think I've had any signs of success w/ the built in COM
> program either

I have the ApexData (Smart Modular) V.34 PCMCIA modem.  I
don't use any special init codes.  The modem will
autoconfigure itself by recognizing whether the landline or
cel cable is attached.

There is a driver required by the palmtop in order to create
the COM2 serial port where the slot modem is.  You can put the
following line in your AUTOEXEC.BAT file:

d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1

to load this driver.  Set your comms program to use COM2 or
the PCMCIA modem and you should be fine.


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<katd@cwix.com> wrote:

> Could you share your macro to put the original sender's Email address
> and name into the beginning of my reply with us?  How do you access
> a specific line in the original message?

Sure.  Here is the macro code as you would put it into the PE.MAC file.  I
have it assigned to the Alt-F key.  I had to break up the macro string to be
on several lines for the message, but it sould be one long string on the
PE.MAC file.  I don't know how useful this string is because it is not human
readable and I expect you will not be able to use it as is.

;Alt-F From Qoute
#2100=#4100#3e00#0d3d#0d3d#0d3d#0d3d#0d3d#011b#3e00#2146#1372#186f
#326d#273a#3920#011b#4d00#4d00#4d00#4d00#4d00#4d00#011b#3920#3e00
#343e#011b#4d00#d500#4100#d600#3920#1157#1372#186f#1474#1265#0e08
#0e08#0e08#0e08#0e08#1177#1372#186f#1474#1265#273a#1c0d#1c0d#4100#7700

I will explain the conditions this macro needs and how it works.  When I go
to reply to an Email address, Post will go ahead and launch PE with two
files open.  NEW_MSG.TXT and ORIG_MSG.TXT.

The first file is an empty file where I compose the reply - just as I am
doing right now.  The second one is a copy of the message I am replying to
in a special format I have defined.  There is the body of the message
followed by a row of equal signs and then the Internet header.

PE has the ability to switch between these two files with the F7 (Next) key.
 I created the macro by practicing what I wanted it to do and then recorded
it with PE's keystroke recording feature.  Then I had PE paste the macro
into the PE.MAC file, I assigned the Alt-F key to it and now it works
perfectly.

Here is what the macro does.  When PE opens, it is set to the NEW_MSG.TXT
file.  The macro does an F7 to switch to the other ORIG_MSG.TXT file, then
it does a Find (F4) and a series of (I think) 5 equal signs to make sure it
finds the divider between the body and the header.  My first attempt at the
macro didn't have this and it would find the From: in a forwarded message.
Now, it always skips over all that to the header of the message I am
replying to.

After the dividing line is found, I use the Find command again to look for
the string From: followed by a space.  This locates the beginning of the
sender's name & Email address.  Then I highlight the rest of that line to
the CRLF.  After that, it is a simple Copy operation, F7 (Next) to go back
to the empty NEW_MSG.TXT file, Paste, then add the Wrote:, two blank lines
and the end with a Next back to the orginal message and a Home to get the
cursor at the beginning of the message so I can dig out a small quote.

PE's built in Help (F1) will give you all the keystrokes to start record a
macro, stop record, past the macro string, begin highlighting, jump to end
of line, Cut and Paste.

Of course, you macro will probably need to be different because you may not
have the Post/PE combination set up the same as I have.   But consider this
a good start to working out the details yourself. <grin>  Have fun.


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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:47:41 -0500
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The idea of using Palmtop.com as an alias is a good one, but I'm behind a
firewall and can't POP3 to an outside server.

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Lawson SMTP:stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM
>
> Heck, if you wanted them to mail your work address,
> a couple beers to the MIS guys (or Jolt colas, depending on the geek
> factor there) should get you changed to being an alias for your
> palmtop.com address.  Thus, you@your.work.com forwards to you@palmtop.com
>

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test

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Has anyone ever tried to get the source code for the original HP EXM
applications in order to improve on them. There might obviously be copyright
issues, but who knows, maybe HP would be ready to let a limited number of
people make the "improvements" and rule their approval on them...

Am I dreaming here? I mean, a better filer, a better appointment app... that
would be nice, wouldn't it? Of course, if HP refuses to sell any rights to
the source code, there might be a problem, but if they are not selling it
anymore, what would be the harm?

What am I not seeing here?

Philippe :)

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Is there a registration process to get access to news.hplx.net? Doesn't seem
like it's possible to just conenct to it without authentication...

Philippe :-)

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:31:07 -0700
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Does anyone know if there's an updated PFA database lying somewhere around?
I just bought PFA from Thaddeus and it looks fantastic (even if made for the
95LX), and I was wondering if they ever sent database updates to their
users...

Thanks,

Philippe :)

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:34:30 -0700
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I've been using a cashflow spreadsheet to plan my spendings! It's really
easy to use and incorporates a small macro to create new months as time goes
by. Basically, it let's you specify known repeating/new spendings and
earnings for the next few months in order to see if you'll have enough money
to get by until the end of each month. I haven't had to balance my checkbook
since I've created it!

Let me know if you'd like to have it and try it!

Philippe :-)

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:35:14 -0700
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Hi!

I would like to know what is people's experience trying to get as much =
memory for System Manager (to run more apps).
Right now I have:

Config.sys: spd31.exe (doublespeed TSR)
Config.sys: lxmdrv.sys (driver to run EXP's card/modem)

Autoexec.bat: cic100.exe (card client TSR)
Autoexec.bat: buddy.com (buddy TSR)
Autoexec.bat: andrew3.com (font TSR)
Autoexec.bat: moreexm.com (More EXM TSR)

Sc.bat: carousel (a TSR???)

Anyway, in the first System Manager session of SC, with Filer turned =
off, in More..., I get: 381K Free / 426K Total.

The question is, how do I get more? EMM? Anything else?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Philippe :-)

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:07:24 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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Strikes me you are swimming against three strong currents:
  (1) Alternative hardware is getting better, cheaper, faster;
  (2) Population of 200Lx users is almost surely shrinking---at least
      relatively, and perhaps absolutely; and most importantly
  (3) your notion of `a better filer' , `a better appointment manager'
      is almost surely (and perhaps sadly) _quite_ different than my
      notion of `better', so that even if you were to succeed
      wrt the two above, you'd fail at this point anyway.
The combination makes this an increasingly unproductive place to
invest time and energy: there are less and less people interested and
there are better and better alternatives. And there are more people
wedded to particular representations (witness the Palm Pilot) that
you won't be able to satisy anyway. No matter where your
cross-over point from the 200Lx to alternative technology is, I would
argue that _almost_ everyone is getting closer to that crossover every
day.

I thought, incorrectly, that my cross-over came with the Palm III.
I used it for a few weeks, then gave it to a friend and returned to
my 200. However, now I notice that I use the 200 less and less because
my cel-phone has gotten better, so I no longer need the 200's
`phone' manager. I anticipate getting good calendar support in my
cel phone RSN, and when (if?) that happens my use of `appointment
manager' will probably decline as well.

IMO, the idea of `better' 200lx applications is---like putting a pentium
into the 200---a nice  fleeting thought that, in truth, is doomed to
failure.

Fryday wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever tried to get the source code for the original HP EXM
> applications in order to improve on them. There might obviously be copyright
> issues, but who knows, maybe HP would be ready to let a limited number of
> people make the "improvements" and rule their approval on them...
>
> Am I dreaming here? I mean, a better filer, a better appointment app... that
> would be nice, wouldn't it? Of course, if HP refuses to sell any rights to
> the source code, there might be a problem, but if they are not selling it
> anymore, what would be the harm?
>
> What am I not seeing here?
>
> Philippe :)
>

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:16:19 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:35:14 -0700, Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I would like to know what is people's experience trying to get as much =
=3D
> memory for System Manager (to run more apps).
>
> Autoexec.bat: buddy.com (buddy TSR)
>
> Anyway, in the first System Manager session of SC, with Filer turned =3D
> off, in More..., I get: 381K Free / 426K Total.
>
> The question is, how do I get more? EMM? Anything else?

Try installing MaxDOS, but from what I see Buddy is your #1 killer.
(:-(

Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
hp 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:23:16 -0700
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Yes, buddy is pretty fat, but it's so ubiquitous that I don't think I could
live without it!

MAXDos probably won't help me unless I use DOS programs -- but my main
problem is trying to use more EXP apps...

Is there any way to load some of these TSR programs in high memory?

Philippe :)

----- Original Message -----
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To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; Fryday
<fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Maximum Mem in System Manager


On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:35:14 -0700, Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I would like to know what is people's experience trying to get as much =
> memory for System Manager (to run more apps).
>
> Autoexec.bat: buddy.com (buddy TSR)
>
> Anyway, in the first System Manager session of SC, with Filer turned =
> off, in More..., I get: 381K Free / 426K Total.
>
> The question is, how do I get more? EMM? Anything else?

Try installing MaxDOS, but from what I see Buddy is your #1 killer.
(:-(

Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
hp 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:27:14 -0700
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Well, seeing that there's still people in this list using DOS programs
because one way or another it has additional features, it would seem
fair to assume that these features could be added to the original apps.
All we need is the original code -- yeah easy to say -- to slap on additonal
stuff to these programs to make them more useful (like regular expression
searches in all apps...)

Agreed, what I find useful might not be what you find useful, but it's that
or reinventing the wheel everytime we just want to go *one* little step
further than what we already have.

Anyone working at HP on this list?

Philippe :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: David Ness <DNess@Home.Com>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; Fryday
<fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application


> Strikes me you are swimming against three strong currents:
>   (1) Alternative hardware is getting better, cheaper, faster;
>   (2) Population of 200Lx users is almost surely shrinking---at least
>       relatively, and perhaps absolutely; and most importantly
>   (3) your notion of `a better filer' , `a better appointment manager'
>       is almost surely (and perhaps sadly) _quite_ different than my
>       notion of `better', so that even if you were to succeed
>       wrt the two above, you'd fail at this point anyway.
> The combination makes this an increasingly unproductive place to
> invest time and energy: there are less and less people interested and
> there are better and better alternatives. And there are more people
> wedded to particular representations (witness the Palm Pilot) that
> you won't be able to satisy anyway. No matter where your
> cross-over point from the 200Lx to alternative technology is, I would
> argue that _almost_ everyone is getting closer to that crossover every
> day.
>
> I thought, incorrectly, that my cross-over came with the Palm III.
> I used it for a few weeks, then gave it to a friend and returned to
> my 200. However, now I notice that I use the 200 less and less because
> my cel-phone has gotten better, so I no longer need the 200's
> `phone' manager. I anticipate getting good calendar support in my
> cel phone RSN, and when (if?) that happens my use of `appointment
> manager' will probably decline as well.
>
> IMO, the idea of `better' 200lx applications is---like putting a pentium
> into the 200---a nice  fleeting thought that, in truth, is doomed to
> failure.
>
> Fryday wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone ever tried to get the source code for the original HP EXM
> > applications in order to improve on them. There might obviously be
copyright
> > issues, but who knows, maybe HP would be ready to let a limited number
of
> > people make the "improvements" and rule their approval on them...
> >
> > Am I dreaming here? I mean, a better filer, a better appointment app...
that
> > would be nice, wouldn't it? Of course, if HP refuses to sell any rights
to
> > the source code, there might be a problem, but if they are not selling
it
> > anymore, what would be the harm?
> >
> > What am I not seeing here?
> >
> > Philippe :)
> >

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:38:44 -0400
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Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK> wrote:

> how and why you might set up a folder and filter to handle the HPLX list

Here is the second part of my primer on filters:

MFilters
========

Now MFilters are a whole different animal.  Don't be confused
by the similar names and MFilter is probably not the greatest
name for MFilters, but it is the best we could come up with.
MFilters are used to modify how you see a message on the
screen while reading it.  Since every Internet message always
has a giant group of header lines, quotations and tag lines,
MFilters are a way of hiding the stuff you don't care about
and highlighting the header stuff you find important.
MFilters have nothing to do with where a message is downloaded
or anything like what Filters do.  The MFilter stuff is always
global in nature and will apply to any message you are looking
at no matter if it is in a folder, inbox, outbox or
newsgroup.

There are five kinds of MFiler specifications.  Three of these
apply to header lines: one to indicate that a specific header
line should be displayed, one to say a specific header line
should not be displayed, and one to say that a specific header
line should be displayed in bold type.  The other two apply to
the body of the message and can hide certain lines from being
displayed: one to notice when a message quotes another
message, and the other one to eliminate trailing lines of the
message such as signatures.

These specs are entered in a very similar way as Filter specs
by using the SETUP program and the Ext function key and then
choosing Mfilter.  The answer to the first prompt is the
string to try to match.  The answer to the second prompt is
either a plus sign ("+") to mean to show that header line, a
minus sign ("-") to mean to hide that header line, an "h" to
have that header line highlighted, a "q" to indicate that is
the a quoted message line, and an "e" to indicate that this
line and all lines below it are to be hidden.

There is also two special strings you can use to the left of
the equals sign (the answer to the first prompt).  The asterix
("*") will match any string and the "?" will match any single
character.  These work like they do at the DOS command line.

You can turn on and off the effects of MFilters.  MFilters for
headers apply when you have the option set in the Post message
viewer to hide headers.  This option is toggled with Menu View
allHeaders (or simply Alt-H) while at the message view screen.
 When the diamond is on next to the all Headers flag, then all
of the message's Internet headers will be displayed no matter
what.  But the MFilter spec for which ones are to be
highlighted will still apply.  When the diamond is not there by
the all Headers menu item, then the MFilter plus and minus
specs will apply and only the header lines you want to see
will be shown.

It works similarly for the quotations.  Use Menu View hide
Quoted to toggle the hiding of the quotations in a message.
When the diamond is there, then the =q MFilter will apply and
when there is no diamond, then quotations will display in
full.

The best way to show what MFilters look like is with an example
from my POST.CFG file:

MFILTER

; Treat lines starting with '>' and 'GZ>', 'TH>' etc. as quotations
>=q
??>=q

; Always display header lines like these
Date:=+
Subject:=+
From:=+
To:=+
Cc:=+
Reply-To:=+
Bcc:=+
X-Mailer:=+

; but don't display any other header lines
*=-

; highlight (boldface) these header lines for emphasis
Subject=h
From=h
To=h

; filter the tag lines of messages from the HPLX-L mailing list
***DO NOT=e


Stan

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:38:41 -0400
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Chris Randle <chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK> wrote:

> how and why you might set up a folder and filter to handle the HPLX list

I have broken my answer into two messages because of the line limit on this
list.  Here is a primer I have written about filters:

Filters
=======

Use the SETUP program to help you.  You already know how to
make a new folder.  In SETUP, use F8 (for Externals) and then
F for Filters to enter filter specs into the Filters section
of the POST.CFG.  The first prompt asks you for the data that
goes to the left of the equals sign and that is the string to
match.  The second prompt is for the thing to the right of the
equals sign and this is the name of the folder where messages
with a header containing the string will be stored.

The stuff you enter into SETUP above will go into a global
filters section called Filters and will apply to all of you
Email inboxes. This should be fine for most cases because it
won't hurt to try to filter messages that will not fit the
criteria for re-routing to a folder.

So, in order to filter HPLX-List messages into a folder, enter
the filter spec as:

First prompt = hplx-l@
Second prompt = ListHP

to have SETUP make an entry in POST.CFG like this:

Filters
hplx-l@=ListHP

which will cause any message downloaded toward any inbox that
has the string "hplx-l@" in the header to go into a folder
called ListHP instead of that inbox.  Of course, you can have
a different name for the folder - I happen to call mine
ListHP.  And you have to already have the folder set up before
trying to download with the filter.

That should be all you need.  Personally, I have a slightly
more complicated arrangement that I will describe.  But
novices should skip right to the MFilter stuff below because
the following advanced Filter stuff requires manually editing
the POST.CFG file.  Enter at your own risk! <grin>

Filters in the Filters section are global and apply to all
mailboxes.  I wanted to have this filter apply to only one of
my inboxes (the one for Mail) and not to the other mailboxes.
So, to do this required I add some extra stuff in my POST.CFG
like this:

I have a folder called ListHP.  This is nothing special.

FOLDERS
ListHP=F

In the section for my Email, I have a specification to tell it
to process incoming mail though a filter called ListFilter.
This line is added to the Mail section or the section for
whichever mailbox you want this specific filter to apply to.

Mail
Filter=ListFilter

And I have a new section I added somewhere else that describes
what that filter is

ListFilter
hplx-l@=ListHP

So, all of this means that when a message is downloaded toward
this specific inbox, it will be filtered by this specific
filter.


Stan

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:41:40 +0000
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>
> Another feature I'm considering is converting from the LX to Outlook.
> Would anyone use this?

I think being able to go both ways will be very useful to those who need
the lx-outlook linking.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:45:12 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> I think being able to go both ways will be very useful to those who need
> the lx-outlook linking.

I 2nd that!

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:50:22 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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My remarks are laced in below...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Ness SMTP:DNess@HOME.COM
>
> Strikes me you are swimming against three strong currents:
>   (1) Alternative hardware is getting better, cheaper, faster;
>
No, yes, and yes.  (sounds like that guy from Vicar of Dibley :)
The new stuff is not getting better.  I compared my HP200 to the HP
"Jornada"<sp?> yesterday, the 200LX has better construction.  The keys feel
better, and are easier to press without pressing an adjacent key.  The OS
aspect is just not getting into this discussion.  Cheaper, yes but it has to
because the changes are coming faster now days and things get obsolete
sooner.  Faster? True, but if the applications hog up all the improvements
in speed, the user won't experience the increase in speed.

>   (2) Population of 200Lx users is almost surely shrinking---at least
>       relatively, and perhaps absolutely; and most importantly
>
This would be important if you were trying to impress someone with your
palmtop, but for those of us who rely on our palmtops to make life easier
and more productive (both professionally and personally), the number of
people using the same product is not very important.  Sure, the more users
of something, the more fresh input, but just because it's the thing all the
cool kids want does not make it a better thing.

>   (3) your notion of `a better filer' , `a better appointment
              manager' is almost surely (and perhaps sadly) _quite_
different
              than my notion of `better', so that even if you were to
succeed
>       with the two above, you'd fail at this point anyway.
>
Point three is why HPLX-L exists.  It's here that improvements can be
discussed to find out if they are "good" or "bad" improvements.  Follow the
threads about improving the email packages that have been around lately and
you will see HPLX-L solving problem number (3).

  In my opinion, a lot of the "improvements" that found themselves into
Windows CE are just not improvements... the reason CE is such a mess?  It
was designed in a vacuum, Microsoft "specified" CE instead of discussing it
with it's customers before publishing it as "the standard".

> The combination makes this an increasingly unproductive place to
> invest time and energy: there are less and less people interested and
> there are better and better alternatives.
>
I would like to avoid the standard discussion on this topic, but I am having
trouble finding better alternatives to my 200LX.

> And there are more people wedded to particular representations
> (witness the Palm Pilot) that you won't be able to satisy anyway.
> No matter where your cross-over point from the 200Lx to alternative
> technology is, I would argue that _almost_ everyone is getting
> closer to that crossover every day.
>
Currently, there is no crossover alternative to the HP200LX.  No other
product can run specialty commercial applications required by my job.  Yes,
I could use a laptop, but that is not the point.

> I thought, incorrectly, that my cross-over came with the Palm III.
> I used it for a few weeks, then gave it to a friend and returned to
> my 200. However, now I notice that I use the 200 less and less because
> my cel-phone has gotten better, so I no longer need the 200's
> `phone' manager. I anticipate getting good calendar support in my
> cel phone RSN, and when (if?) that happens my use of `appointment
> manager' will probably decline as well.
>
I think you will find that your cell phone will not last as long as your
200lx.  Several things cause cell phones to become obsolete faster than a
computing product, not the least of which, lack of continuing support from
the phone vendor.  I bet you can't find _any_ 5 year old cell phones that
can be (1) repaired, (2) upgraded, (3) programmed to an new OS (like from
CDMA to GSM), or (4) sold for between 25% and 50% of the original asking
price. (cell phones have no value)

> IMO, the idea of `better' 200lx applications is---like putting a pentium
> into the 200---a nice  fleeting thought that, in truth, is doomed to
> failure.
>
A Pentium in a palmtop would be a great improvement as long as that
modification adhered to the constraints we currently place on our palmtops.
(battery life, what have you)  A faster processor in a CE device does not
seem to make a difference, and a faster processor in a cell phone would have
no reason.

I hope you don't see any of what I said here as an attempt to start a war, I
just felt it necessary to respond to the defeatist remarks I felt you were
making.  Up-lift! Always put positive input in, whenever possible!  :)

Phil

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:50:08 +0200
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
Subject:      Re: Free email for the HP200LX?
Comments: To: John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

>  My thoughts are that we could have the Palmtop.com server echo all mail
>to our normal email accounts for home access and then access the Palmtop
>server only when we're on the road.

If I would use Palmtop.com, then only because I can use the built-in
cc:Mail.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:53:23 +0200
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From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
Subject:      Receive Websites via Mail - Part 1
MIME-Version: 1.0
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send your request to w3mail@gmd.de


w3mail  - A Web Access by E-mail

                HELP-file


Via w3mail (Version 2.2) you can fetch multimedia-documents from theWorld
Wide Web per email.

Edit an email addressed to w3mail@gmd.de with any number of requests for
aWorld-Wide-Web document or for help.
You can fetch Web-pages as HTML source-code, as plain text, as formatted
plain
text including all hyperlink references to other Web sources, as
postscriptfile, as compressed or uuencoded file. You can also fetch a
HTML-file
with all inline-images as attachments of a MIME-mail with Content-Type:
multipart/mixed.
Moreover you can get a HTML-file and all HTML-files that are referenced
by hyperlinks. Then w3mail sends a MIME-mail with Content-Type:
multipart/mixed
to you.
W3Gate processes URL with protocols http, (anonymous) ftp, wais and gopher.
Currently w3mail supports HTML2.0, but enhancements will be implemented soon
to provide new HTML features.


The subject of the email can be omitted. The usage of a mail-command is:

get -t | -u | -a  -c columns -img -ps -l -uu -z -s size URL

or

help

The commands are case insensitive. If the body contains more than one
get-command w3mail processes each command and will send you the resultin a
separate email.
Only one command per line is permitted. The first word in each line must be
a
key-word (get or help)!

You can modify the HTML-document you want to get with options in theoptions-
part of the mail-comand:

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:53:45 +0200
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From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
Subject:      Receive Websites via Mail - Part 2
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

OPTIONS :

-t : The HTML-file is send without HTML-tags (as formatted plain text).

-u : The HTML-document is send to you as formatted plain text preserving
all URLs occuring in anchor-links within that document.
     The URLs are relative to the HTML-document.
-a : The same as -u but the URLs mentioned in links as absolute URLs.

-c columns :

     After columns characters a line-feed character is inserted into
     the plain-text of the HTML-file/text-file. If you can only receive
mails with a limited number of columns this option may be useful.
     If 'columns' is less than 40 it is set to 40. If 'columns' is
greater or equal 40 and smaller than 255 or equal 255  it is set
     to this value, if it is larger than 255 it is set to 255.
     This option can only be used in combination with the -t -u -a
     options!

-ps : The HTML-file/text-file is converted into postcript-format.

-uu : The file you specified is coded with uuencode before mailing it to
      you to make mail the data correctly.

-z : the file will be compressed with UNIX-gzip

-img : all inlined-images, the background-image - if present -  will be
      sent together with the hypertext-file in a MIME mail with Content-
Type      multipart/mixed. Thus if you have a MIME-capable User Agent you
can      watch the pictures of the Web-page

-l: all HTML-files referenced by the orederd HTML-file are fetched, too.
    As result a MIME mail with Content-Type: multipart/mixed containing
    all Web-pages is sent to you.


-s size: by this option you fix the maximal size of the file sent by E-mail
         to size ( 0 < size < 100000) Bytes.



Currently w3mail gets only files smaller 2 MB. If a file is larger than 100
K it
is splitted into smaller parts, which is necessary for a fastemail-
transport. The partial emails have a sequence number in theSubject-field,
so you can put the file together at your site. Binary-fileslarger than 100
K (e.g. zip-archives , exe-files) will be splitted too.To concatenate these
partial mails uudecode each mail (the mail-header will be stripped off
automatically). You get binary-files with sequence numbers.Then append them
with

cat file1 file2 ... filen > total_file   on UNIX-platforms or
copy /a | /b file1 + file2 + ... + filen somefile  for MS-DOS-users


Some mail-bodies for example :


body1 :
get -z -uu http://www.es.net/pub/rfcs/rfc1738.txt

body2 :
get -t -c 132 http://www.es.net/html-stuff/rfcs.html
get -img http://www.gmd.de/
get -l http://www.gmd.de/

body3 :
get gopher://gopher.es.net/77/.waisindex/rfcs?MIME
get -s 16000 ftp://ftp.gmd.de/misc/computersongs-1.4.Z


Long URLs can be broken up and continued in the next line. You must append
a backslash (\) to the partial URL to indicate that it is continued in the
next line. Multiple breaks of URLs are also possible.

example:


get http://www.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=aq&what=\
web&fmt=.&q=Universitaet+and+Bonn+and+Informatik+and+Netzwerke&\
r=&d0=&d1=


If you append a signature to your mails propose a '-- ' (two minus and one
blank) to it in a separate line to indicate that a signature follows.
Redirected URLs will be fetched also from the new location.
If the email contains incorrect commands w3mail will send an error-mail with
a
hint to the wrong parts of the commands.
When w3mail can't access a document (e.g. server-time-out, too much traffic,
etc) you will get an error-message. In this case try again later.


Enjoy!

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:57:12 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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From:         Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      A Call for Help: JKIT fonts.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I give up on finding the below listed fonts so if anybody has the JKIT
can you please send me a copy of these fonts:

lxzn16x.fnt
lxhn16x.fnt

Calling upon The SUPER Team far: Jorgen and Toshiki can you help me?



Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
hp 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:56:18 -0700
Reply-To:     Ron Zhang <Ron.Zhang@Eng.Sun.COM>
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From:         Ron Zhang <Ron.Zhang@ENG.SUN.COM>
Subject:      Convert Notes to FFDB format?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii

I just tried Brian's FFDB and really like it. Has anyone come up with a Macro
or something else to convert a Notes file into FFDB format?

Thanks.

Ron

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:19:47 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Maximum Mem in System Manager
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Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

> I would like to know what is people's experience trying to get as much =
> memory for System Manager (to run more apps).
> The question is, how do I get more? EMM? Anything else?

Have you set the feature in Buddy to NOT load the World Time
map overlay?  If you disbale this, that will make Buddy about
10K smaller.

Go into the Setup application with Ctrl-Filer.  Then to the
System settings with F5, then to the Advanced settings with
F8.  You will need to close all other application first so you
can change the Clipboard and Statis memory settings.  The
clipboard RAM is set aside all the time, so if you make that
lower, it iwll give more RAM to the other SysMgr apps.  The
Static memory setting is a little more mysterious, but I have
mine set to only 4K and that works perfectly.  I have heard
that it is really only Quicken and the FASTDB.TSR programs
that use the Static memory.

If you launch a application or DOS program from AppMgr, keep
in mind that the AppMgr app stays in RAM taking up 17K.  So,
if you launch the built in apps from their hot keys, this
will save some memory.  Launch a DOS prompt with Ctrl-Lotus.

Unfortunately, SysMgr cannout use EMM.


Stan

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:20:47 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Fw: HP EXM application

> Am I dreaming here? I mean, a better filer, a better appointment app... that
> would be nice, wouldn't it? Of course, if HP refuses to sell any rights to
> the source code, there might be a problem, but if they are not selling it
> anymore, what would be the harm?
>
> What am I not seeing here?

I think you are seeing quite clearly. The problem would be getting the
source code from HP. It is still a strong selling platform and they may
not want to release it. It is an excellant idea though. The PIM part
could use some improvement like a built-in dialer in the phonebook.

John

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:28:06 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Fryday wrote:

> Is there a registration process to get access to news.hplx.net?
> Doesn't seem like it's possible to just conenct to it without
> authentication...

Go to http://news.hplx.net or http://www.hplx.net/news/ and register.
It's authenticating to avoid potential abuse...

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:02:14 -0230
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              Andy <avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET>
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From:         Andy <avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF:  Anyone know of something like this?
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Date sent:              Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:44:03 -0500
Send reply to:          HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-
L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
        "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
From:                   "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:                Re: FLUFF:  Anyone know of something like this?
To:                     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> > Does anyone know of a service that would automatically go to a certain
> > URL and then mail that page's contents to a certain email address?
> > Something that is kind of like Netminder? I have a certain page that I
> > visit everyday to get some information and was thinking that it would be
> > nice if there was something available on the internet that could save me
> > the time and hassle of doing this manually.
>
> You could probably write a shell script to do this for you on you shell
> account.  Problem might be scheduling it to run.  Many ISPs, mine
> included, have completely crippled the system scheduler for normal users.
> They have always disabled the AT command, but until about a year ago you

What is an AT command?

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:25:21 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Personal Food Assistant
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<<Does anyone know if there's an updated PFA database lying somewhere
around?
I just bought PFA from Thaddeus and it looks fantastic (even if made for
the
95LX), and I was wondering if they ever sent database updates to their
users...>>

The company sold an advanced version which, I believe, included a larger
database.  I don't know if they are still selling it or in business. You
can try the contact in the packaging.  Sorry, I can't be more helpful.

Hal from Thaddeus

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:37:22 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: Maximum Mem in System Manager
Comments: To: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Thanks Stan!

So, is there a way to load some of the TSR in high memory?

Philippe :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 12:19 PM
Subject: Maximum Mem in System Manager


> Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:
>
> > I would like to know what is people's experience trying to get as much =
> > memory for System Manager (to run more apps).
> > The question is, how do I get more? EMM? Anything else?
>
> Have you set the feature in Buddy to NOT load the World Time
> map overlay?  If you disbale this, that will make Buddy about
> 10K smaller.
>
> Go into the Setup application with Ctrl-Filer.  Then to the
> System settings with F5, then to the Advanced settings with
> F8.  You will need to close all other application first so you
> can change the Clipboard and Statis memory settings.  The
> clipboard RAM is set aside all the time, so if you make that
> lower, it iwll give more RAM to the other SysMgr apps.  The
> Static memory setting is a little more mysterious, but I have
> mine set to only 4K and that works perfectly.  I have heard
> that it is really only Quicken and the FASTDB.TSR programs
> that use the Static memory.
>
> If you launch a application or DOS program from AppMgr, keep
> in mind that the AppMgr app stays in RAM taking up 17K.  So,
> if you launch the built in apps from their hot keys, this
> will save some memory.  Launch a DOS prompt with Ctrl-Lotus.
>
> Unfortunately, SysMgr cannout use EMM.
>
>
> Stan
>
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>

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:35:55 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      Re: HP EXM application
Comments: To: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

<<Has anyone ever tried to get the source code for the original HP EXM
applications in order to improve on them. There might obviously be
copyright
issues, but who knows, maybe HP would be ready to let a limited number
of
people make the "improvements" and rule their approval on them...

Am I dreaming here?>>

You are dreaming. Beside legal and bureaucratic difficulties, there are
some serious logistical ones. There were several contract programmers
who originally wrote system manager for Lotus and HP for the HP 95LX. I
believe HP tried to clean up the code for the 100LX and 200LX although
that still might have been contract work.

I heard a rumor that has some chance of being true, that in the move to
Singapore from Corvallis the code got lost!!!  Even if HP has it, I
understand it is spaghetti code that is difficult to understand and
modify.

Hal at Thaddeus

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:45:29 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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From:         David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF:  Anyone know of something like this?
Comments: To: Andy <avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The AT command (at least in NT) allows you to schedule commands and
programs to run `AT' a particular time...

Andy wrote:
>
>
> What is an AT command?
>

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:52:51 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: HP EXM application
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Ah, spaghetti code that's difficult to understand and modify!

At last it becomes clear why our apps are small, quick and work the way you
expect 'em to! <g>

Everything else we add to it is, as they say....just sauce.

- Longden





Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM> on 04/28/99 12:35:55 PM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
      to Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)

Subject:  Re: HP EXM application




<<Has anyone ever tried to get the source code for the original HP EXM
applications in order to improve on them. There might obviously be

<snip>

I heard a rumor that has some chance of being true, that in the move to
Singapore from Corvallis the code got lost!!!  Even if HP has it, I
understand it is spaghetti code that is difficult to understand and
modify.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:15:22 +0200
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
Subject:      Re HP EXM application / suggestions (long post)
Comments: To: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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>I mean, a better filer, a better appointment app... that
>would be nice, wouldn't it?

There is no long way from the status quo to perfect.
The filer doesn't need much improvement.
The appointment app is already perfect.
What would be a good improvement is something like the 123g stuff.
I don't think that you have to reprogram the LX apps.

A lot of people on the list dream about LX improvements, enhancing
the hardware etc. I realized, that a lot of the power is NEVER used
by many LX-user, when I saw how easy it was to connect via infra-red
with my IBM ThinkPad 760ED. I wan't to get more out of the IR port
in future. It will be a big step, to use for example a IR to Parallelport
converter (I mean a IR receiver with a parallel port). On the Parallelport
I can plug my external Hardpac Harddisk (with accu and 250MB), a ZIP-Drive,
another PC via Linkcable, a printer etc. That would be a real improvement.

Think about the printing. I think most of us don't print directly with the
LX.
There isn't a lot of serial printers out there. The use of IR is the easiest
way
to print (no cable, no special PCMCIA card). And I think the fastest too.
To be able to print directly from the LX would improve my work, because
I would do much more on the LX, if it could print. But until now, I don't
have
a IR-receiver like the redeye etc. and am not printing directly. I always
have
to transfer my work first to the desktop and print it from there. I had a
flirt
with a PCMCIA-Parallelport-Card. But it is definitely too expensive for me.
So I said: "Hey look, you have a serial port, a PCMCIA slot and an IR port.
Why do you need a parallel port?" The PCMCIA slot is of course already
filled with my 32MB Viking CompactFlash card.

A lot of people on this list spend a lot of time in dreaming about a
wishlist
of LX improvements. I see a realistic enhancement in using the already
built-in hardware more completely. The super-site is a great help for those
who wish to expand their knowledge about using the LX. I am allways learning
a lot. Simple solutions -- like the 123g -- make some things on the LX
really
practical (I wouldn't use 123, if there were no 123g menu).

At this point I will make a suggestion. Perhaps it is no news for the
hackers
on this list: If you open a GDB file with WordPerfect, it recognizes it as a
"WordPerfect 5.0 secondary file". That means, the merging format of
WordPerfect or let me say, the datafiles (if you merge datafiles with
text- or formfiles). I remember the WordPerfect tool "notebook" that was
a little free form database as the built-in LX-Database. The look and feel
and the creation of the fields was the same. I think, the built-in database
is WordPerfect! If you open a GDB, it is imported to WordPerfect with the
official WordPerfect delimters (field tags etc.). Unfortunately, it had
nothing
to do with DataPerfect. This is another story.

But this could open some possibilities for conversion solutions etc. (there
exists
a convert program of WordPerfect).

This was a lot of thoughts. Tell me what you think about.

-goe-

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:31:22 +0200
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>> What is an AT command?


It is a command that you send to a modem, like ATDT (Attention: Dial with
tone)
or ATDP (attention: dial with pulse) etc.

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Nice tool, I had not thought about using OLE to access the Outlook data, but
it obviously works well.  I really like the mapping you put in but I wonder
if you could make it so that one or more fields from outlook could be mapped
ot the note field on the 200lx?  My reason may seem somewhat silly, but I
keep email addresses in the note field on the 200lx since there is no place
else to keep them in the phone book.

This is a great beginning to the problem of Outlook <--> 200LX data
exchange.  Now if you can make it go the other way we would have a complete
phone book solution and would only need the calendar / appointments / todo
interchange.  Thanks again for the great beginning to solving this problem.
I think the biggest chalenge will be the calendar with repeating
appointments / todo's.

John Guenther

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From:   Curtis CameronSMTP:curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET
Sent:   Wednesday, April 28, 1999 12:12 PM
Subject:        Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter

Hi all,

I've just posted the first pass of a converter which will convert
Outlook Contacts to the PDB or GDB format for the 100/200LX. You can
get it at my web page, http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html

It uses OLE automation to pull data from Outlook (you must have
Outlook to run it), and then commands Steve Roth's GDBDUMP and GDBLOAD
program to get data into the LX format.

Features (so far):
* Individually select folders within Outlook's main Contacts folder
for export.

* Works with any PDB or GDB file.

* Lets you map fields however you want between the two.

* Multiple Outlook fields can be mapped into one HPLX field, so if the
first one is an empty field, it will use the data from another field.

This is a Visual Basic 5 program, and requires you have the VB5
runtime files installed (there is a pointer to this on the above web
page). Please let me know if this is useful.

One thing I need to know - I think Outlook installs the file
Msoutl85.olb. If you have Outlook and don't have it, please let me
know because I'll have to include it in the distribution.

Another feature I'm considering is converting from the LX to Outlook.
Would anyone use this?

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:37:07 -0500
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Actually the 'at' command according to the man entry I just read on the
Linux system from which I'm sending this note allows you to schedule a
job to run at a specified time, just as Chris originally noted. Now, if I
just knew how to write a script on my shell account I would be set.

Jeff

    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
    *------------------------------------------------------------------*

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Subject:      Re: Re HP EXM application / suggestions (long post)
Comments: To: Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>

>
> Think about the printing. I think most of us don't print directly with the
> LX.
> There isn't a lot of serial printers out there. The use of IR is the easiest
> way
> to print (no cable, no special PCMCIA card). And I think the fastest too.

I used to print using the IR to a HP 340 printer. I used the HP IR parallel
port adapter on the printer. They don't recommend using it with any other
printers but it may be worth a try since it is resonably priced 30$ and
it works pretty well. The only thing is it is slow. It took about 1 to 2
minutes to print a page. Since I have switched to a parallel port card
and it is many times faster. Prints a page in 15 to 30 seconds.

John

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For the next couple of hours, I'll have the new version of the LXVWS web
server running.  This is a palmtop web server that's in alpha testing
right now and can serve multiple virtual domains.  Point your browser to:

http://hp200.ipair.com:7070/
and
http://www.ipair.com:7070/

for two different pages (we hope).  This new version fixes a bug with file
not found errors, I think.  (Rod, feel free to correct me.)

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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi all

There are a few LX webservers now and I was wondering if an LX could be
accessed via the web into the actual PIM's?

If this is possible a dedicated site could have say a GDB uploaded and
converted inside an LX and sent back in the needed format. Reverse also is a
possibility.

Any comments? Expansions on this?

Cheers

Russell

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:49:21 EDT
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In a message dated 4/28/1999 02:07:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
DNess@HOME.COM writes:

> No matter where your  cross-over point from the 200Lx to alternative
technology is, I would argue that _almost_ everyone is getting closer to that
crossover every day.

I guess I'm your _almost_.   I haven't seen anything remotely tempting.  In
fact, the market is making it increasingly likely that nothing will replace
the HP in the next 2 or 3 generations of development.  I love the key board,
have no interest in color, and haven't seen anything with a Bible program
remotely competitive with the combo of HisWord and the On Line Bible.
Times2Tech mods have given me room and speed to solve any problems that I
have had.

There are plenty of other reasons (the wealth of available software, it
actually fits in any pocket, etc.) that I expect to stay with the HP200LX for
a long time to come.

Palolithically Yours,

Lynn M. Cavendish

(I suspect I have more company on this list than you think.)

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:23:40 GMT
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              Mike Wagstaff <aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
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More than a little late in the day I know, but I had an idea
for POST/LX which I don't think has been put forward before.
Is there any chance of including an option to view messages
*vertically*, the way Vertical Reader displays documents?

Not only is reading stuff vertically more comfortable on the
eyes because of the narrower width, you also have the added
bonus of being able to hold the palmtop just like a book.
Presumably, the main reason why it's not feasible is that it
would add too many extra KB to the program size... and the
small fact that probably nobody else wants such a feature!

 -Mike

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:27:23 -0400
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF:  Anyone know of something like this?
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This will probably be of absolutely *no* help to you, but maybe it will at
least be encouragement...

There is, out there somewhere, a Web page that, given a URL and an email
address, will email the content of that URL to the given address.  It's
intended for people who need to get at information *now* but haven't access
to a browser at the moment.

The down sides:I don't believe you can set up timed/recurring delivery, and
this was a year or so and I haven't a *clue* where that site is (if it even
still exists).

You might try writing to the Netmind folks.  They have been pretty
responsive to people's requests so far, from what I can tell.

Good luck,
Rick

P.S. You could maybe set up a timed macro on the LX, have it launch
something like Lynx, and later retrieve the page from the cache when you're
ready.  Hmm... presuming there's a browser like Lynx that will let you hand
it a URL on the command line AND that caches.  Oh well... maybe this will
at least spark an idea.

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On 4/27/99, at 11:18 PM, Jeff Johns wrote:

>Does anyone know of a service that would automatically go to a certain URL
>and then mail that page's contents to a certain email address? Something
>that is kind of like Netminder? I have a certain page that I visit
everyday
>to get some information and was thinking that it would be nice if there
was
>something available on the internet that could save me the time and hassle
>of doing this manually.
>
>Jeff

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All,

Once again, its time to make a bit of room in my office, and Im selling off
a few HP related items.  See below for details.

HP 95lx 512k Model. ($70 + Shipping)
Good condition, Connection Cable, DOS Connection Software, belt clip
case, DOS+Lotus 1-2-3+ PIMs in ROM. (cosmetically very clean, weak
latch spring)

HP 1000cx 2mb Model ($200 + Shipping Each, BRAND NEW!)
New in the box, HP 1000cx, 2mb RAM, DOS 5 & Laplink Remote in ROM,
French localized version (some of the text above the keys is french, DOS
etc. is all english).   These are very similar to the 200lx, except the rom
based PIM applications and Lotus 1-2-3 have been removed.   I have 2 of
these and can preload them with freeware apps from super if you wish.

HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model  ($150 + Shipping)
Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 40mb PCMCIA HD, battery (holds a charge),
AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM.

HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model ($150 + Shipping)
Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 20mb FLASH Drive, battery (holds a charge),
AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM.

Note:  Both of the Omnibooks have had their batteries tested through hours
of use, but I can't guarantee the life of an old battery.   I originally
wanted to get
one of these for myself, and had a couple deals fall thru, then they all
came in
at once and I ended up with 4.  Im keeping one (its a really nice unit),
have sold
one and the remaining two are described above.  Items below arent HP, but
may be of interest.

Compaq 4/40cx Notebook & Docking Station ($350 + Shipping)
486 dx2/40, 20mb RAM, 340mb HD, approx 9" 640x480 TFT Color VGA
display, Builtin Trackball, 2 PCMCIA card slots, Battery (holds a charge),
AC Adapter, has Windows 95 installed.  Includes docking station which adds
2 1/2 height Drive bays, Floppy Controller, SCSI controller, IDE Controller,
2 ISA expansion slots, charger for second battery, 10BaseT Ethernet, all
plug-n-play under Win95.   Includes Compaq Carry Case.

Chaplet 486/25 Notebook ($150 + Shipping)
486/25, 4mb RAM, 120mb HD, Serial, Parallel, External VGA Port, 640x480
Backlit Monochrome VGA display, Builtin Trackball, 1 PCMCIA Type II card
slot. Battery (holds a charge, about 1hr life est.).  AC Adapter. Has DOS
6.1,
Windows 3.1, and Calmira Win95 look alike shell installed for evaluation
only
No disks or license included.

Compaq SLT/286 Notebook ($70 + Shipping)
286/12, 640k RAM, 40mb HD, Serial, Parallel, External VGA Port, 640x480
paper white backlit VGA display.  Brand New Battery (Paid $117 for it right
before the machine was retired), has DOS 5 installed and boots to a DOS
shell
GUI.

Add a XJack 28.8 Cellular ready modem to any of the above (except
the 95lx) for $25.

Please send inquiries to driden@stlnet.com.

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:41:41 +1000
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              Greg Dwyer <gdwyer@MELBPC.ORG.AU>
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Is there a Windows program that simulates the HP calculator?
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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:46:48 -0400
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Russell Hemery wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> There are a few LX webservers now and I was wondering if an LX could be
> accessed via the web into the actual PIM's?
>
> If this is possible a dedicated site could have say a GDB uploaded and
> converted inside an LX and sent back in the needed format. Reverse also is a
> possibility.
>
> Any comments? Expansions on this?
>
> Cheers
>
> Russell
>

What are you trying to do? `Uploaded and Converted' into what?
What are you trying to do that CPACK doesn't do, and why is it
relevant that the webserver _be_ an LX?

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Qman Here are the fonts.
Enjoy
Tony Guzewicz
By the way, do you know where I can get the dsp1402a file in order to view
Japanese web pages with HV?

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:54:32 -0700
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Look in the SUPER site.  Search for "hppim".

- Longden





Greg Dwyer <gdwyer@MELBPC.ORG.AU> on 04/28/99 04:41:41 PM

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Is there a Windows program that simulates the HP calculator?

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The Omnibook 300's
This is a 386/20 subnotebook weighing approx 2.8lbs. Is powered by a NiMh
battery (rated for 5hrs with a HD, 9hrs with a flash) and can also be
powered
by 4 AA batteries. DOS+Windows+Excel+Word+HP Pims+HP Calc+Laplink
are all included in ROM and many of them execute in place so they don't use
much RAM memory for operation making the 4mb seem like a whole lot more.

Thanks,

Dan
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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:09:01 -0500
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You can (and I do) add fields to the Phone Book Application.  It's so easy
it hurts... Open the phone.pdb file in the Database Application.  The full
set of modification tools will now work on your phone.pdb file. :)

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jguenthe SMTP:jguenthe@NAFIS.FP.TRW.COM
>
> My reason may seem somewhat silly, but I
> keep email addresses in the note field on the 200lx since there is no
> place
> else to keep them in the phone book.
>
> John Guenther
>

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Does anyone know where I can get this file in order to display Japanese web
pages with HV? I have found the dis1402 version but it doesn't seem to work.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Subject:      Re: HP & Related Items for Sale, Spring Cleaning Again!
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I will take the OB300 with the flash drive, if you still have it.  If
not, I will take the other, but prefer the flash drive.

Thanks,

David, WA7ZYQ

Dan Ridenhour wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Once again, its time to make a bit of room in my office, and Im selling off
> a few HP related items.  See below for details.

> HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model  ($150 + Shipping)
> Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 40mb PCMCIA HD, battery (holds a charge),
> AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM.
>
> HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model ($150 + Shipping)
> Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 20mb FLASH Drive, battery (holds a charge),
> AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM.
>

> Please send inquiries to driden@stlnet.com.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
> driden@stlnet.com
>
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              "Rich C. Johnson" <Rich.Johnson@EY.COM>
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Comments: To: jguenthe@NAFIS.FP.TRW.COM

John,
>>My reason may seem somewhat silly, but I
keep email addresses in the note field on the 200lx since there is no place
else to keep them in the phone book.

I think I can help you with this. Simply rename your phone.pdb to phone.gdb and open it with the database app. Then using the menus
 you can modify the database to your heart's content. Specifically, you can add a new field for email addresses. I've had this field in my
phone.pdb file for years. When you are finished customizing it, close the file and rename it back to the original phone.pdb and reopen with
 the phonebook app. Voila!

If you have problems I could send you the basic template I use.

Rich

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Ok, so I never thought of modifying the Phone.pdb file to add a field for
the email address, guess I thought you couldn't do that for some reason,
don't know why I thought that but I just never thought of it.  I made the
change, took less than 5 minutes, exported the Outlook contacts to the phone
book and it worked wonderfully!!  Thanks for the tip.

John Guenther

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich C. Johnson mailto:Rich.Johnson@ey.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 8:15 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU; jguenthe@nafis.fp.trw.com
> Subject: Re: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter
>
>
> John,
> >>My reason may seem somewhat silly, but I
> keep email addresses in the note field on the 200lx since there
> is no place
> else to keep them in the phone book.
>
> I think I can help you with this. Simply rename your phone.pdb to
> phone.gdb and open it with the database app. Then using the menus
>  you can modify the database to your heart's content.
> Specifically, you can add a new field for email addresses. I've
> had this field in my
> phone.pdb file for years. When you are finished customizing it,
> close the file and rename it back to the original phone.pdb and
> reopen with
>  the phonebook app. Voila!
>
> If you have problems I could send you the basic template I use.
>
> Rich
>

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On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:49:21 EDT, Lynn M. Cavendish wrote:

>There are plenty of other reasons (the wealth of available software, it
>actually fits in any pocket, etc.) that I expect to stay with the HP200LX for
>a long time to come.
>
>(I suspect I have more company on this list than you think.)

"What he said" goes for me too.  I could be proven wrong tomorrow, but
I really suspect that this will be the pocket computer for me for the
next 2 (few) generations of new pocket computers coming on the market.
The size (what good is it if it's too big to fit in your pocket and you don't
have it with you?), the keyboard, more _useful_ software than I can
get installed .....

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Mike Wagstaff wrote:
> Is there any chance of including an option to view messages
> *vertically*, the way Vertical Reader displays documents?

This once has been discussed during the beta test. If I recall
correctly, we found that just for reading POST/LX message files, VR
already can be used and for full integration (reading, replying etc),
it would be quite inconvenient to always turn the machine. So it was
not implemented. Did you try VR on a POST/LX message file. Maybe it
does all you want.

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I have a 2MB HP100LX in great condition (no cracks, latch problems, screen
problems or even cosmetic damage) for sale including all the manuals.

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Yes - please send a copy = thanks in advance


Fryday wrote:

> I've been using a cashflow spreadsheet to plan my spendings! It's really
> easy to use and incorporates a small macro to create new months as time goes
> by. Basically, it let's you specify known repeating/new spendings and
> earnings for the next few months in order to see if you'll have enough money
> to get by until the end of each month. I haven't had to balance my checkbook
> since I've created it!
>
> Let me know if you'd like to have it and try it!
>
> Philippe :-)
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> Is there any chance of including an option to view messages
> *vertically*, the way Vertical Reader displays documents?
> Presumably, the main reason why it's not feasible is that it
> would add too many extra KB to the program size...

I'm glad that I have to disappoint you: Basically it would add
only a few bytes, because this feature is available for all
programs using the 'graphics write string' function of the
built in INT5F graphics library. I'm really surprised, that
only very few programmers use the power of this library,
(including myself). One other feature are 'clip regions', which
restrict output to a previously defined window. Using it, you
may run several smaller 'virtual screens' within the 640x200
display. Could be a starting point for frames support in HV.

To demonstrate Vertical display, I wrote a tiny TSR. After
activation with Fn-V it outputs all text vertically. It works
only in graphics mode. If you activate it while in a program,
you have to press the zoom key to rebuild the screen. Fn-V
toggles between horizontal and vertical display. Vertical
output is not fast, but available for all 4 built in fonts.

Please don't flame me for attaching the 700 bytes TSR.

Stefan

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On 4/28/99, at 7:29 PM, Rick Rae foolishly wrote in part:

>There is, out there somewhere, a Web page that, given a URL and an email
>address, will email the content of that URL to the given address.  It's
>intended for people who need to get at information *now* but haven't
access
>to a browser at the moment.

I didn't realize how inane this was until it got posted to the list and I
read it.  If one can get to the emailer page, then obviously one can get to
the page being mailed.  I just thought I'd point out that little stupidity
before someone else had a chance.  <Grin>

So then I got to thinking, trying to remember how this thing worked and
what it was for.  I think the what-it-was-for is correct.  My vague memory
is that it was still a Web page, but that's just where I read about it.  I
believe, now that I've given the old neurons a chance to turn over a few
times, that it's actually a server somewhere that you EMAIL with the URL
you're interested in; it then retrieves the page in question and emails it
back to you.  Which is probably of less use to the original poster, sorry.

Maybe a few searches on things like "Web page emailer" or suchlike will
turn up something helpful.

Rick

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I recently travelled with a PIM freak to Greece. (To a symposium where a
McDonald's executive didn't show because they were advised Europe is at
war!)
He had a Palm V. We had occation to discuss some business opportunities,
and I did some quick modelling in 1-2-3 on my bog standard LX. He was
amused, but not particularly impressed. Then we discussed the elements of
the business plan, and I dished out an outline in Memo. At that point he
was admitting the clumsiness of the palm handwriting recognition system.
When it became time to e-mail our proposal I connected to my ISP with my
Nokia GSM and Nettamer (ok, ok! I know!) he got a worried frown amd when I
proceeded to print out a neat presentation on my HP 340 via IR he fell
silent.
When we reached Copenhagen he was all over the airport electronics shops
trying out Velo's HP 360's, Sharps and Psions. They didn't have any 200LX's
so he climbed on board our connecting flight sulking.

I believe the decline of the 200 will be due to HP's marketing policy
rather than the product being overtaken by better designs.

Happy LX'ing!
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rich C. Johnson <Rich.Johnson@EY.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter


>I think I can help you with this. Simply rename your phone.pdb to phone.gdb
and open it with the database app. Then using the menus
> you can modify the database to your heart's content. Specifically, you can
add a new field for email addresses. I've had this field in my
>phone.pdb file for years. When you are finished customizing it, close the
file and rename it back to the original phone.pdb and reopen with
> the phonebook app. Voila!


You can also add as many phone books as long as they have the .pdb
extension, this allows you to classify them into different phone
directories.

Regards
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Fryday wrote:
>
> I've been using a cashflow spreadsheet to plan my spendings! It's really
> easy to use and incorporates a small macro to create new months as time goes
> by. Basically, it let's you specify known repeating/new spendings and
> earnings for the next few months in order to see if you'll have enough money
> to get by until the end of each month. I haven't had to balance my checkbook
> since I've created it!
>
> Let me know if you'd like to have it and try it!
>
> Philippe :-)
>
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Hello! Philippe

 yes I would like to try it out your cashflow spreadsheet.

                Thank You
                 Bob Elliott Jr

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Hi, Philippe, who wondered about rewriting the built in programs and aske=
d

>>What am I not seeing here?

Did you ignore the fact that the code for the built in PIMS is in ROM?  F=
or
me, the "better" code would have to be really "better" to devote disk spa=
ce
to it. Burning and replacing ROMS would be extremely expensive. =


Did I miss your definition of "better"?

.ed.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:26:34 -0400
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Hi, Philippe, who asked,

>>The question is, how do I get more (conventional memory)? EMM? Anything=

else?

All the tsrs and drivers that you use go into conventional memory. There =
is
no equivalent for loading them into "high" memory on an 80186 machine. If=

you need to free up memory for a DOS program in session 1 of SC, you migh=
t
try MAXDOS.

.ed.

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>Is there a Windows program that simulates the HP calculator?
> ,-._|\  Regards
>/  Oz  \ Greg Dwyer <gdwyer@melbpc.org.au>
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Yup, sure is just got a copy with my new HP Pavilion,
would you like me to zip a demo 8-) up for you?

It emulates the HPLX calculator fairly well.

Regards......Liam

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No, your opinions are a very useful (IMO) contribution to discussion,
which I am happy to continue. I second, BTW, your notion that this
isn't a `fight'. I like, and continue to use, my 200Lx. However,
with my purchase of a Libretto and a cel phone my use _has_ dropped
dramatically, and the direction of use remains clear.

I'll cut remarks (both mine and yours) where I have nothing to add
to the discussion. I hope I don't screw up the attributions, but
you know how hard that is...

Phil Drummond (PD) wrote in response to my (DN) earlier note:
>
>
> (DN) ... new hardware is better, cheaper, faster ...
>
> (PD) The new stuff is not getting better.
>

Semantics. I'd say, unequivocally, that the new hardware is better,
screens are better, passable mice are available, ...,  but I agree that
most (all?) packages I have seen so far are not as good. Nevertheless, I
do still feel you are `swimming upstream' wrt the 200. Eventually
someone will get the packaging right.

>
> (DN) Population of 200Lx users is almost surely shrinking---at least
>      relatively, and perhaps absolutely;
>
> (PD) This would be important if you were trying to impress someone
>      with your palmtop, but for those of us who rely on our palmtops
>      to make life easier and more productive (both professionally and
>      personally), the number of people using the same product is not
>      very important.
>

But this seems to me to completely miss the point. The more popular a
platform is, the more stuff that will be developed for it. The less
popular a platform is, the less that will be developed. Again, you may
find that some are still happy to `volunteer' their time to a shrinking
marketplace, but if you want lots of `rich' development that you will be
able to take advantage of, look for expanding marketplaces.

> (DN) ... your `better' differs from my `better'

> (PD) Point three is why HPLX-L exists.  It's here that improvements
>      can be discussed to find out if they are "good" or "bad"
>      improvements.  Follow the threads about improving the email
>      packages that have been around lately and you will see HPLX-L
>      solving problem number (3).
>

We read history differently. I have read both HPLX for a good while
and HPHAND for a number of years. I have seen only a few useful
contributions grow out of `communal sense'. The best stuff seems to
me to have principally built by a _very_ small number of individuals
(often only one). I have also seen many `Second Systems' (i.e.
those that came out of major revisions of a successful system) be
dismal failures: The second round of CPM, the second round of CTSS
at MIT, ... (the list goes on forever) all introduced changes that
pleased some, but ended up by disappointing more and ultimately led
to failure. One man's improvements proved to be another's obstacle.

> (PD) I would like to avoid the standard discussion on this topic, but
>      I am having trouble finding better alternatives to my 200LX.

So am I. That's why I still use it.

> (PD) Currently, there is no crossover alternative to the HP200LX.  No
>      other product can run specialty commercial applications required
>      by my job.  Yes, I could use a laptop, but that is not the point.

I'm afraid I don't know, then, what `the point' is. My Libretto took
up a huge part of what I used to do with my 200. And it does that
part _enormously_ better. Of course it is _not_ better at everything
(instant on, battery life, fitting in an inside pocket). But it has
_very much_ reduced my 200 use, and---as I write more and more code
that uses GUIs---will probably continue to do this more and more.

> (DN) ... points about cel-phone taking over 200 tasks...
> (PD)  I think you will find that your cell phone will not last as long
>       as your 200lx.  Several things cause cell phones to become
>       obsolete faster than a computing product, ...

What you say is almost surely true. But I think it is irrelevant.
I _have_ to have a cel phone, and take what comes down that pike. It is
a given. Whether it obsoletes faster has no effect on me. Some of the
changes in cels over the past 5 years have been to add more and more
function of the PDA. I expect that to continue, thus diminishing the
role of the `stand-alone' PDA. I already get tidy little text messages
on my cel-phone screen mailed from my Net-based friends. No modem, no
`login', no ISP, delivered anywhere, ... For me this was formerly an
elaborate computer based function, and now I no longer need the computer
for it at all. I expect more and more of that.

>  (PD) I hope you don't see any of what I said here as an attempt to
>  start a war, I just felt it necessary to respond to the defeatist
>  remarks I felt you were making.  Up-lift! Always put positive input
>  in, whenever possible!  :)

I don't feel at all that your temperate and sensible remarks were an
attempt to `start a war'. In return, I hope you understand that it is
not `defeatist' to feel that some particular computational ground
that was in the past very fruitful is now past its `prime' and that
investment in, and cultivation of, new ground is more productive.

Philippe asked (in the message that I was originally responding to)
`What am I not seeing here?'. My response essentially was that the
HP200 _was_ a very fertile world, and lots of good stuff was developed
for, and around it. But so _were_ the IBM650, Dec-Vax, Z80, and many
other computational environments. and I'd make the same argument about
them as I would about investing new time and energy trying to recover
old code for a machine well past its `prime'.

Of course, Hal's observations (that the probability of getting any
access to the code is somewhere between miniscule and zero) probably
makes all of this discussion moot.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:44:35 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Free email for the HP200LX?

Hi Phil,

>The Palmtop.com service has a web page. http://www.palmtop.com
>If you look there, all the questions you are asking are answered there.
The
>page is small and palmtop "friendly".
>
>Short answer, the basic service is "free" but any additional services
(mail
>forwarding, additional addresses, etc.) cost money.  The total package,
less
>domain registration service is $60US.

  Thanks for the clarification, Phil. Am I right in assuming that one is
not required to pay for domain registration service to use the additional
services? Your frame of reference, experience and comments, as a current
user of Palmtop.com services, are valuable to us all.

  I guess exploring the "ESP Networks" link unnecessarily complicated my
impression of the palmtop.com service pricing structure with the ESP
Network's pricing structure for business accounts.

  It's nice to know that palmtop users are given a special break in that
they can use the basic service free of charge. It's even better that,
according to your post, palmtop users are offered additional support
options for only a one-time flat registration fee and are not charged
additional monthly charges like those mentioned in ESP Network's business
services pricing structure.

  So far, Palmtop.com sounds like a winner to me. I'm going to put aside
my proposed Free Juno Email project and focus on this rather attractive
alternative, first.

  I'll check out the free basic service for myself. If I find that the
service works as well as advertised and CC:Mail's features and interface
meet my needs and liking, then it would be my impression that a one-time
registration fee for unlimited access to the specialized services they
offer would be reasonable. I that case, there would be no point in
pursuing the Free Juno email project any further, since it's probable
that the Juno software, run on top of windows 3.0 on the HP200LX, would
at least be painfully slow.

  I'll keep everyone posted. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:48:54 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Web pages by email

Hi Jeff,

>Oops :) I did leave out some important information. I need something
that
>will automatically mail me the page at a certain time everyday. I know
>there are web based services that will send out weather and news and
>sports scores and was just wondering if anyone knew of a service that
>would allow you to specify a certain URL to be mailed, I don't even care
>if it had an advertisement attached.

I've read about and used email servers in the distant past that took
orders to retrieve Web pages, but they had to be queried via a formatted
email message each and every time that a web page was wanted. Also, my
experience in dealing with those email servers was that they were
generally so busy that it took several days to get the pages that were
ordered.

I suggest that a much more timely way to accomplish what you want is to
use scheduler and a web access application that supports macros to
retrieve those pages for you directly into your HP200LX on a regular
schedule for later viewing.

However, if you are still interested in using an email web server, I'd be
happy to look up email address(es) of such server(s) in a book I
purchased many years ago on that subject called, "The Internet by Email"
by Clay Shirky. I don't know if the referenced servers are still active,
but you never know. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:33:53 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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From:         David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Re: PIM access on desktop
Comments: To: Russell Hemery <rhemery@powerup.com.au>
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CPACK works fine on .GDB as far as I can see. Why do you think that
the `Data Base' function in CPACK is anything other than the same
as on the 200 itself?

(I've tried it and it seems to work fine)

This is so straightforward and simple that I must miss what you are
trying to do. Perhaps you will try again...

Russell Hemery wrote:
>
> >What are you trying to do? `Uploaded and Converted' into what?
> >What are you trying to do that CPACK doesn't do, and why is it
> >relevant that the webserver _be_ an LX?
>
> Hi David
>
> The Cpack from what I understand will only handle PDB not Custom GDB.
> Easiest answer for those of us without ethernet cards to connect to a LX
> speedily would be to use a "remote" LX to access DB files and view them isn
> say HTML or some DB format on desktop etc.
>
> Russell

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:30:57 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, nancyb@BEST.COM
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From:         "Nancy A. Barker" <nancyb@BEST.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fw: Cashflow spreadsheet

   >I've been using a cashflow spreadsheet to plan my spendings! It's

   >Let me know if you'd like to have it and try it!


I would love to give it a try!  Thanks!

n.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:13:27 -0400
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              Loran Brooks <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
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From:         Loran Brooks <ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter
Comments: To: "Rich C. Johnson" <Rich.Johnson@EY.COM>
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Great suggestion below!  I didn't know that I could change the fields in
my phone book and still continue to use the phone book utility.

How will modifying the fields affect the Outlook conversion routine that
Curtis is developing?

L. Brooks

"Rich C. Johnson" wrote:
>
> John,
> >>My reason may seem somewhat silly, but I
> keep email addresses in the note field on the 200lx since there is no place
> else to keep them in the phone book.
>
> I think I can help you with this. Simply rename your phone.pdb to phone.gdb and open it with the database app. Then using the menus
>  you can modify the database to your heart's content. Specifically, you can add a new field for email addresses. I've had this field in my
> phone.pdb file for years. When you are finished customizing it, close the file and rename it back to the original phone.pdb and reopen with
>  the phonebook app. Voila!
>
> If you have problems I could send you the basic template I use.
>
> Rich
>
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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:02:18 -0400
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From:         Ron Burnett <ronburnett@CSI.COM>
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I just bought a Trans Digital parallel port card.  I want
to use the card to attach my parallel port Zip drive.  The
manual (p. 15) says that I need, among others, the
following files, to be copied from the Iomega Zip install
disk:

     aspippm1.sys
     nibble.ilm

The above 2 files are not on the floppy or the Tools
zipdisk.  My Zip drive is several years old.

I tried the iomega.com, and downloaded a file, but these
were not included.  Otherewise, the site doesn't appear
very helpful.

Can you tell me how to get these files, or do you have the
email address for Iomega tech support?  Or Trans Digital
tech support?  The tech support person at Thaddeus seemed
pretty clueless, and I had to leave a phone message with
Trans Digital.

Thanks.

Ron

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:50:20 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." <Andrew.Wachtel@CSHS.ORG>
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From:         "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." <Andrew.Wachtel@CSHS.ORG>
Subject:      Re: HP & Related Items for Sale, Spring Cleaning Again!
Comments: To: Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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what are the dimensions of the omnibook

> ----------
> From:         Dan RidenhourSMTP:driden@STLNET.COM
> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List;Dan Ridenhour
> Sent:         Wednesday, April 28, 1999 4:18 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      HP & Related Items for Sale, Spring Cleaning Again!
>
> All,
>
> Once again, its time to make a bit of room in my office, and Im selling
> off
> a few HP related items.  See below for details.
>
> HP 95lx 512k Model. ($70 + Shipping)
> Good condition, Connection Cable, DOS Connection Software, belt clip
> case, DOS+Lotus 1-2-3+ PIMs in ROM. (cosmetically very clean, weak
> latch spring)
>
> HP 1000cx 2mb Model ($200 + Shipping Each, BRAND NEW!)
> New in the box, HP 1000cx, 2mb RAM, DOS 5 & Laplink Remote in ROM,
> French localized version (some of the text above the keys is french, DOS
> etc. is all english).   These are very similar to the 200lx, except the
> rom
> based PIM applications and Lotus 1-2-3 have been removed.   I have 2 of
> these and can preload them with freeware apps from super if you wish.
>
> HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model  ($150 + Shipping)
> Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 40mb PCMCIA HD, battery (holds a charge),
> AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM.
>
> HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model ($150 + Shipping)
> Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 20mb FLASH Drive, battery (holds a charge),
> AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM.
>
> Note:  Both of the Omnibooks have had their batteries tested through hours
> of use, but I can't guarantee the life of an old battery.   I originally
> wanted to get
> one of these for myself, and had a couple deals fall thru, then they all
> came in
> at once and I ended up with 4.  Im keeping one (its a really nice unit),
> have sold
> one and the remaining two are described above.  Items below arent HP, but
> may be of interest.
>
> Compaq 4/40cx Notebook & Docking Station ($350 + Shipping)
> 486 dx2/40, 20mb RAM, 340mb HD, approx 9" 640x480 TFT Color VGA
> display, Builtin Trackball, 2 PCMCIA card slots, Battery (holds a charge),
> AC Adapter, has Windows 95 installed.  Includes docking station which adds
> 2 1/2 height Drive bays, Floppy Controller, SCSI controller, IDE
> Controller,
> 2 ISA expansion slots, charger for second battery, 10BaseT Ethernet, all
> plug-n-play under Win95.   Includes Compaq Carry Case.
>
> Chaplet 486/25 Notebook ($150 + Shipping)
> 486/25, 4mb RAM, 120mb HD, Serial, Parallel, External VGA Port, 640x480
> Backlit Monochrome VGA display, Builtin Trackball, 1 PCMCIA Type II card
> slot. Battery (holds a charge, about 1hr life est.).  AC Adapter. Has DOS
> 6.1,
> Windows 3.1, and Calmira Win95 look alike shell installed for evaluation
> only
> No disks or license included.
>
> Compaq SLT/286 Notebook ($70 + Shipping)
> 286/12, 640k RAM, 40mb HD, Serial, Parallel, External VGA Port, 640x480
> paper white backlit VGA display.  Brand New Battery (Paid $117 for it
> right
> before the machine was retired), has DOS 5 installed and boots to a DOS
> shell
> GUI.
>
> Add a XJack 28.8 Cellular ready modem to any of the above (except
> the 95lx) for $25.
>
> Please send inquiries to driden@stlnet.com.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
> driden@stlnet.com
>
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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:59:38 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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From:         Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
Subject:      Re: HP & Related Items for Sale, Spring Cleaning Again!
Comments: To: driden@STLNET.COM
In-Reply-To:  <008001be91cd$92aeb940$8494a8c0@dan-dell.Pulitzer.net> from Dan
              Ridenhour at "Apr 28, 99 06:18:21 pm"
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I've forwarded your message to my friend who is interested on one of the
1000CX's.  His name is Greg Davlin and he'll send you a message soon.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:47:43 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, kakima@IX.NETCOM.COM
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From:         Kiyoshi Akima <kakima@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Turbo C++ 3.0
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I was just in a store today and saw a big box called the Borland Turbo C++ Suite for US $60.
One of the things in the box is Turbo C++ 3.0. The other stuff requires Windows 3.1 or better, and
is of no further interest here.

The box simply states that it runs under DOS. When I asked whether it would run on the 200LX, the
clerk at the store simply said that he didn't think there would be any problem on any system with
a 486 or better. The kid is probably too young to remember the original IBM PC or the AT, probably
thinking that computers began with the 386/486.

So, the question is, does anybody know whether Turbo C++ 3.0 runs on the 200LX?

I have Turbo C++ 2.0, which does run fine. Is 3.0 a viable upgrade for us?

Kiyoshi Akima
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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:37:01 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: HP EXM application
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> I heard a rumor that has some chance of being true, that in the move to
> Singapore from Corvallis the code got lost!!!

How convenient, er, inconvenient, er, convenient .... what do I mean?
(G)

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:14:16 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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From:         "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
Subject:      Free Juno email  & MS Win 3.0 Without Mouse
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Reference the comment about trying to use MS Win 3.0 without a mouse.

I recall seeing a commercial program called NoMouse.  Think I also saw some
shareware and freeware versions.

Don't know how well they would work on the HP200LX.

========================================
At 09:50 PM 4/26/99 -0400, John J Vander Stel wrote:
>
>I'll be watching my email for any ideas anyone may have that might even
>remotely help with this free email project. (installing Windows 3.0,
>using it without a mouse, getting around the Juno ads, etc...)
>

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:39:28 +0900
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              Hirohiko Kashiwagi <hirohiko@A2.MBN.OR.JP>
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From:         Hirohiko Kashiwagi <hirohiko@A2.MBN.OR.JP>
Subject:      Re: Japanese DSP1402a file for HV
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aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU> wrote :

>Does anyone know where I can get this file in order to display Japanese web
>pages with HV? I have found the dis1402 version but it doesn't seem to work.
>TIA

Dis1402 can't cope with 11 dot font.
We need dsp14a (dsp1402a.lzh) to cope with 11 dot font.

It is found at :

http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/dos/util/se013780.html

----
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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:50:12 -0600
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              "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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From:         "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" <rsmith@ENOL.COM>
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FYI and Question:

When Win95 first came out, I had another machine on my desk at work with
Win 3.11 for Workgroups.  Both were on a Netware 4.11 server.  By
installing the CPack and MS Windows Networking, I could directly access
the drives on the HP 200LX as network drives -- very slick!

Now, I have a 486 laptop with a Xircom PCMCIA NIC and a small WIN 95 (3
machines) network at home.  On the laptop, I can load LLRA before Win95
and connect to all of the drives on the palmtop, but I can only share
the flashcard (drive A: on the palmtop).  Therefore, over the network, I
can only acces the flashcard drive.

Any ideas on how to make it so I can access all of the palmtop's drives
over my Win95 network? (Aside from getting another NIC for the palmtop,
etc.)

Thanks,
Richard Smith

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:36:42 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Subject:      Re: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter
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>I think I can help you with this. Simply rename
>your phone.pdb to phone.gdb and open it with the
>database app. Then using the menus
>you can modify the database to your heart's content

The caveat to this may be that the modified phone database is no longer
correctly handled by some programs (I think CPACK was one) when the fields are
changed.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:19:44 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Internal stack overflow, System halted

Hi All,

  Since I received my 32MB X2 HP200LX, I hadn't used filer because I felt
more at home at the DOS prompt. I hadn't had any problems with my HP200LX
at all.

  Well, without any other application running at all, today I opened
filer, just to see what it looked like. When I pressed "menu" and "Q" to
exit filer, I got the "Internal stack overflow, System halted" error
message. A hard reboot was required to recover from this error.

  After the hard reboot, I went through the above process again and got
the same error message all over again.

  Are the default "buffers=20" and "files=30" lines adequate in my
config.sys file or should they be set to different values?

  Any other ideas about what might be causing this error?

  BTW, I sure am glad that some here have mentioned on this list that
when a hard reboot is initialized, one should enter "n" and "enter" to
the question posed. Naturally, my double speed HP200LX scrambles that
prompt. I could have lost the contents of my C: drive, due to simple
ignorance!

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:51:37 +0900
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              Toshiki <toshis@MBA.SPHERE.NE.JP>
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On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:30:04 -0400
aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU> wrote:

> does anyone know where I can get the Dsp1402a file to display Japanese web
> pages with HV. I have found a few sites that say the file is dsp1402a.lzh but
> once I open it it's dsp1402. Has anyone ben able to read Japanese web pages
> ith HV.

No. dsp1402a.lzh will decommpressed into dsp14.com. NOT dsp1402.

You should create dsp14a.com from dsp14.com by DEBUG.

Please refer to: http://www.palmtop.net/japanese.html


Toshiki Sasabe
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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:52:56 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Turbo C++ 3.0
Comments: To: kakima@IX.NETCOM.COM
Mime-Version: 1.0
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A poster (Russell Hemery) posted about 2 weeks ago that "Borland Turbo c++ 3.0
docs say 286+ processor."

- Longden





Kiyoshi Akima <kakima@IX.NETCOM.COM> on 04/28/99 06:47:43 PM

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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)
Subject:  Turbo C++ 3.0




I was just in a store today and saw a big box called the Borland Turbo C++ Suite
for US $60.
One of the things in the box is Turbo C++ 3.0. The other stuff requires Windows
3.1 or better, and
is of no further interest here.

The box simply states that it runs under DOS. When I asked whether it would run
on the 200LX, the
clerk at the store simply said that he didn't think there would be any problem
on any system with
a 486 or better. The kid is probably too young to remember the original IBM PC
or the AT, probably
thinking that computers began with the 386/486.

So, the question is, does anybody know whether Turbo C++ 3.0 runs on the 200LX?

I have Turbo C++ 2.0, which does run fine. Is 3.0 a viable upgrade for us?

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:56:30 +0900
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              Toshiki <toshis@MBA.SPHERE.NE.JP>
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On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:57:12 -0700
Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> I give up on finding the below listed fonts so if anybody has the JKIT
> can you please send me a copy of these fonts:
>
> lxzn16x.fnt
> lxhn16x.fnt
>
> Calling upon The SUPER Team far: Jorgen and Toshiki can you help me?

JKIT is a commercial software, you need to buy it from Okaya Systemware
as a whole packeg with installers, drivers, fonts and utility programs.

 Toshiki
 toshiki@j.email.ne.jp
 toshis@mba.sphere.ne.jp

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:03:39 -0600
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              Myron China <Myron.China@GWL.COM>
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hello.  are either of these omnibook 300's still available?
i may be interested in buying one.  please let me know.

thanks.
myron china


Dan Ridenhour wrote:


> HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model  ($150 + Shipping)
> Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 40mb PCMCIA HD, battery (holds a charge),
> AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM.
>
> HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model ($150 + Shipping)
> Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 20mb FLASH Drive, battery (holds a charge),
> AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM.
>
>

____________________________________________________
Myron China (KB0LMQ)             myron.china@gwl.com
ISIS Oracle Database Administrator  Ph:(303)689-3981
Great-West Life Assurance Co.      Fax:(303)689-4850
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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:03:49 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: PIM access on desktop
In-Reply-To:  <3727D321.B3DCE83F@Home.Com> from "David Ness" at Apr 28,
              99 11:33:53 pm
Content-Type: text

> > The Cpack from what I understand will only handle PDB not Custom GDB.

I think I see the confusion.  The HP Windows version of the PIM apps
will only support a standard, un-modified phone book.  He must be
confusing this with the DOS-based CPACK.  I just double checked, and
CPACK's phone book application opens my modified phone book file just
fine.  Hope this clears up the confusion.

-Chris

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:06:19 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Windows Version of HP Calc
In-Reply-To:  <000001be91f5$c8fc8540$bcac0ecb@ir1> from "Liam M. Early" at Apr
              29, 99 08:04:52 am
Content-Type: text

> Yup, sure is just got a copy with my new HP Pavilion,
> would you like me to zip a demo 8-) up for you?
>
> It emulates the HPLX calculator fairly well.

Liam:

I have a new Pavillion, too.  Where exactly did you find this simulated
HP-LX calculator?  I'm goin' hard-disk hunting when I get home...

-Chris


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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:21:15 -0400
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              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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From:         David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Re: PIM access on desktop
Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Very useful piece of information, Chris. I have never used the
windows version, so never knew that there were differences. This
explains a lot.

R. Christopher Lott wrote:
>
> > > The Cpack from what I understand will only handle PDB not Custom GDB.
>
> I think I see the confusion.  The HP Windows version of the PIM apps
> will only support a standard, un-modified phone book.  He must be
> confusing this with the DOS-based CPACK.  I just double checked, and
> CPACK's phone book application opens my modified phone book file just
> fine.  Hope this clears up the confusion.
>
> -Chris
>

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:22:07 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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From:         "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Re: Internal stack overflow, System halted
Comments: To: John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <19990429.101958.3566.0.j_vanderstel@juno.com>; from John J
              Vanderstel on Thu, Apr 29, 1999 at 10:19:44AM -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Interesting. I get the same error when I try to undelete a file in Filer
with my 2X 64MB machine.

--
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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:34:21 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Subject:      Re: PIM access on desktop
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

If memory serves me correctly, I think some people once posted that the DOS
CPACK application won't support a customized PDB during the "Xlate/Merge"
function.

I've never tried to do it myself, but under "Settings/Mapping" for that app,
only the standard fields are listed.  Other than that, I suppose the normal
CPACK PIM functions will handle the custom PDB just fine.

- Longden





David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM> on 04/29/99 08:21:15 AM

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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)
Subject:  Re: PIM access on desktop




Very useful piece of information, Chris. I have never used the
windows version, so never knew that there were differences. This
explains a lot.

R. Christopher Lott wrote:
>
> > > The Cpack from what I understand will only handle PDB not Custom GDB.
>
> I think I see the confusion.  The HP Windows version of the PIM apps
> will only support a standard, un-modified phone book.  He must be
> confusing this with the DOS-based CPACK.  I just double checked, and
> CPACK's phone book application opens my modified phone book file just
> fine.  Hope this clears up the confusion.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:35:25 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Francois Gurin <matrix@SKYSHOT.POLY.EDU>
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From:         Francois Gurin <matrix@SKYSHOT.POLY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: HP & Related Items for Sale, Spring Cleaning Again!
Comments: To: Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <008001be91cd$92aeb940$8494a8c0@dan-dell.Pulitzer.net>; from Dan
              Ridenhour on Wed, Apr 28, 1999 at 06:18:21PM -0500
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Are any of the omnibooks still available??

--francois

On Wed, Apr 28, 1999 at 06:18:21PM -0500, Dan Ridenhour wrote:
> HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model  ($150 + Shipping)
> Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 40mb PCMCIA HD, battery (holds a charge),
> AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM.
>
> HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model ($150 + Shipping)
> Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 20mb FLASH Drive, battery (holds a charge),
> AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:43:29 +0200
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch>
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From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH>
Subject:      Re: Web pages by email
Comments: To: John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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I write it the second time (was my mail not clear enough?):

send a mail to w3mail@gmd.de with nothing but the text "help" and you will
get a description about how you can receive web pages by email.

Quick reference:

send the text:

get http://www.yahoo.com

to the above mentioned mail adress, and you will get the page as an
attachment.

-goe-

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:57:03 GMT
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              Donald Collins <donald.collins@SACPCUG.ORG>
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From:         Donald Collins <donald.collins@SACPCUG.ORG>
Organization: Sacramento PC Users Group
Subject:      AP News with HV

I thought I should share a great Associated Press URL
that works great with HV.

http://www.newsday.com/ap/internat.htm  International
http://www.newsday.com/ap/topnewsx.htm  Top News
http://www.newsday.com/ap/national.htm  National
http://www.newsday.com/ap/washingt.htm  Washington
http://www.newsday.com/ap/financex.htm  Finance
http://www.newsday.com/ap/wallstre.htm  Wall Street


The news is displayed without fancy pictures and
formatting (example below)

<sample title links to stories>
International
2:37 pm NATO Strikes Milosevic's Party HQ
2:34 pm U.S. Troops Conditions Improving
2:31 pm Arafat Holds Off on Statehood
2:27 pm Jackson Will Head to Yugoslavia
2:13 pm Bus Carrying Wedding Guests Crashes
1:53 pm Japan OKs U.S. Security Agreements
1:43 pm Ritzy Belgrade Mansions Depreciate
1:39 pm Clinton Calls Up Reservists
1:36 pm NATO Strikes Milosevic's Party HQ
1:34 pm Pianist Plays Near Hostile Border
</sample title links to stories>

I created an app for my own personal use to download
the articles for off-line reading (does some
simple formatting to strip off banners & such) .  I
don't use WWW/LX so I don't know if it can automate
downloading html's.


Don.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:48:59 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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From:         David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Turbo C++ 3.0
In-Reply-To:  <199942819521546334@ix.netcom.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Kiyoshi Akima wrote:

> So, the question is, does anybody know whether Turbo C++ 3.0 runs on
> the 200LX? I have Turbo C++ 2.0, which does run fine. Is 3.0 a viable
> upgrade for us?

It won't run on the 200LX.  It requires protected mode

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:04:33 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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From:         Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Fwd: FS: Omnibook 300, 4mb RAM, 40mb HD,
              DOS+Windows+Excel+Word in ROM
MIME-Version: 1.0
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To the person who was looking for an Omnibook 300. I saw this one for
sale earlier this week. Drop him a line and see if its still available.


--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "Alchemist" <driden@stlnet.com>
Subject: FS: Omnibook 300, 4mb RAM, 40mb HD, DOS+Windows+Excel+Word in =
ROM
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:38:37 -0500

I have the following subnotebook computer for sale:

HP Omnibook 300
Instant On Functionality with Weeks of Standby Power available.
386/20
4mb RAM  (2mb Builtin + 2mb Expansion Card)
40mb HD (Type III, PCMCIA)
1 Free PCMCIA Type II card slot.
Approx. 2.8lbs.
battery (holds a charge, new batteries are rated for 5hrs with a HD, and
9hrs if a Flash card is used instead)*
Will Also run for hours with 4 AA batteries (lithium or Duracell Ultras
recommended)
AC Adapter (has loose connection, but works fine for running and charging
the unit)
640x480 Reflective LCD Display. (Looks good in most light, excellent
outdoors)

* The battery has run for hours in my testing, but no guarantees on =
battery
life of old batteries.

Includes the following applications in ROM*
- DOS 5
- Windows 3.1
- Microsoft Word 2.x
- Microsoft Excel 4.x
- HP PIM (Appointments, Phone book, etc.)
- Laplink Remote Software
- I will install 'Calmira' a windows 95 like shell application if you =
wish.
Gives the look and feel of WIn95 without the overhead.

* Rom applications are execute in place, meaning they execute from ROM =
and
do not
take up RAM memory to execute.  This makes the system perform as if it =
has
considerably
more than its 4mb of memory.

This is an excellent take anywhere notebook, its light weight, long =
battery
life, and ability to
run from AA batteries if needed give it functionality similar to todays
Windows CE machines
such as the NEC 700 without giving up the functionality of having real =
DOS
and WINDOWS (not CE)
available.

Price:  $200 + Shipping

Please send Inquiries to driden@stlnet.com

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com






--- end of forwarded message ---




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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:04:36 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Internal stack overflow, System halted
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:19:44 -0400, John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.C=
OM> wrote:


>   Well, without any other application running at all, today I opened
> filer, just to see what it looked like. When I pressed "menu" and "Q" =
to
> exit filer, I got the "Internal stack overflow, System halted" error
> message. A hard reboot was required to recover from this error.
>
>   After the hard reboot, I went through the above process again and got
> the same error message all over again.


Try adding this line to your config.sys:

Stacks=3D9,256

HTH

Regards,

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:00:04 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, h_e_guenther@CSI.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: AP News with HV
Comments: To: Donald Collins <donald.collins@SACPCUG.ORG>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Donald Collins,

thanks a lot.

Download can be automated. Try GET/LX in combination with WWW/LX.

Regards

Helmuth

> I thought I should share a great Associated Press URL
> that works great with HV.
>
> http://www.newsday.com/ap/internat.htm  International
> http://www.newsday.com/ap/topnewsx.htm  Top News
> http://www.newsday.com/ap/national.htm  National
> http://www.newsday.com/ap/washingt.htm  Washington
> http://www.newsday.com/ap/financex.htm  Finance
> http://www.newsday.com/ap/wallstre.htm  Wall Street
>
> The news is displayed without fancy pictures and
> formatting (example below)
>
> <sample title links to stories>
> International
> 2:37 pm NATO Strikes Milosevic's Party HQ
> 2:34 pm U.S. Troops Conditions Improving
> 2:31 pm Arafat Holds Off on Statehood
> 2:27 pm Jackson Will Head to Yugoslavia
> 2:13 pm Bus Carrying Wedding Guests Crashes
> 1:53 pm Japan OKs U.S. Security Agreements
> 1:43 pm Ritzy Belgrade Mansions Depreciate
> 1:39 pm Clinton Calls Up Reservists
> 1:36 pm NATO Strikes Milosevic's Party HQ
> 1:34 pm Pianist Plays Near Hostile Border
> </sample title links to stories>
>
> I created an app for my own personal use to download
> the articles for off-line reading (does some
> simple formatting to strip off banners & such) .  I
> don't use WWW/LX so I don't know if it can automate
> downloading html's.
>
> Don.
>
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>

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:01:33 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fw: HP EXM application
Comments: To: Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Well, actually, by better I really meant adding small features that would
just make everyone's life easier, or simply having cut-down versions of some
of the apps to help them go faster. Having a background in software
maintenance, I've seen all sort of spaguetti code, so as long as the changes
are small and useful, we might be able to crank out "nice" little things to
keep the apps at the bleeding edge whenever we want.

And basically yes, this would require the use of space on the ramdisk, which
could be a problem to some.

Philippe ;-)

----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 9:26 PM
Subject: Fw: HP EXM application


Hi, Philippe, who wondered about rewriting the built in programs and asked

>>What am I not seeing here?

Did you ignore the fact that the code for the built in PIMS is in ROM?  For
me, the "better" code would have to be really "better" to devote disk space
to it. Burning and replacing ROMS would be extremely expensive.

Did I miss your definition of "better"?

.ed.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:05:39 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Software Carousel conflicts in Sys Man
Comments: To: Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hmmm, no. DOS is not an issue here since I'm using Software Carousel.
However, the problem with SC and Sys Man is that I might inadvertently open
the same file in another session -- and cause corruption of the file.

Does anyone know if there's a feature in SC to prevent that from happening?
Is the author of SC on this list? I'd imagine a simple text file containing
a list of open databases would do the strick. If SC discovers that the file
is already open (looking in that file), it could pop up a warning at least.
Or perhaps someone could write a little TSR to do this? Stephan? Any
interest?

Thanks!

Philippe :-)


----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 9:26 PM
Subject: Maximum Mem in System Manager


Hi, Philippe, who asked,

>>The question is, how do I get more (conventional memory)? EMM? Anything
else?

All the tsrs and drivers that you use go into conventional memory. There is
no equivalent for loading them into "high" memory on an 80186 machine. If
you need to free up memory for a DOS program in session 1 of SC, you might
try MAXDOS.

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>> I got the "Internal stack overflow, System halted" (when quitting File=
r)

Sounds like you tried the hard reboot. Did you try chkdsk to see if the
disk(s) might be corrupted. It happens.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:06:14 -0400
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>> I think some people once posted that the DOS CPACK application won't
support a customized PDB during the "Xlate/Merge" function.

The version of CPack that I use won't handle a modified .PDB file if it h=
as
the .PDB extension. So I rename the .PDB to .GDB and use the database
Xlate/Merge. =


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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:12:04 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Fryday wrote:

> And basically yes, this would require the use of space on the ramdisk,
> which could be a problem to some.

Personally, for the ability to customize the built-in apps, I'd gladly
give up 3MB of my RAM drive.

What _I_ think we should do is rewrite all the built-in apps with NKIT so
they're more readable and easier to customize.  But so far nobody's
willing to take the challenge.  <g>

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:11:18 GMT
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Mike,

> More than a little late in the day I know, but I had an idea
> for POST/LX which I don't think has been put forward before.
> Is there any chance of including an option to view messages
> *vertically*, the way Vertical Reader displays documents?
>
> Not only is reading stuff vertically more comfortable on the
> eyes because of the narrower width, you also have the added
> bonus of being able to hold the palmtop just like a book.
> Presumably, the main reason why it's not feasible is that it
> would add too many extra KB to the program size... and the
> small fact that probably nobody else wants such a feature!

Don't say that!
I wished this many times in the past.
Everytime I sit in the train and read these lots of
emails from HPLX-L, I thought it would be great if
I could read these mails vertically.
But I think it would be more useful to program an
interface between Post/LX and VR than to program
an Post/LX-own vertical reader module.

Maybe it would be possible to call VR, leave it again,
but as TSR, then start Post/LX and have a shortcut in Post/LX
to send the mail to VR and fire VR up again.

I think it would be possible yet to read mails vertically:
Just put a command in the "external" section of the post.cfg,
that starts VR with the current mail temp file as parameter.
But this could be very slow!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:13:30 -0400
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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Actually, if you've recently changed icons in X-Finder and one appears to be
corrupt,  just hit F1 to Init X-Finder and it will refresh the icon display.

By the way, thanks to Penniel and others for turning me on to this great
application. I'm just starting to get it set up the way I want (now that
everyone else has moved on to Task Bar!) and I don't even bother with Filer or
AppMgr any more.

Now I'm busy working on a custom set of MacOS 8 Copland-style icons for
X-Finder...he he he!

> Doh! You don't even have to invert it. Just open it in icn200lx, save
> and quit.
>
> Edward Moy wrote:
>
>> Correction: You only need to save after the second inversion; no need
>> to save twice.
>>
>> Edward Moy wrote:
>>
>> > I don't know if this happened to anyone else but I found that
>> > X-finder R.9 had difficulty displaying certain icons and would
>> > draw them oddly -- usually a black vertical line along the right
>> > side. Well, I came across a solution this morning: using
>> > icn200lx.exe, invert the icon and save, then invert and save it
>> > for a second time. My icon then appeared normal in X-Finder.
>> > Strange.
>> >
>> > Ed

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:16:55 -0700
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Okay, since I started this thread, let me make a few simple points, IMHO:

- The hardware only needs to be as good as the application running on it
requires it. 200LX hardware (board) is fine for the built-in apps.
- The builtin apps are already excellent and contain most of the features
needed from them.
- Writing apps (for other types of PDA) that are similar to the LX builtin
apps is just re-inventing the wheel -- that turns really well in the first
place.
- Improving on the builtin apps will keep us happy, make us happier as time
goes by, and keep the edge compared to the other PDAs. Screw the fact that
the 200LX crowd is slowly shrinking. (BTW, even though there are
dishwashers, many people still do it by hand: shrinking does not mean
extinction).
- Because of the previous points, there might be an incentive to either: a)
get the source code and mess around with it, or b) rewrite the builtin apps,
or c) write TSRs like Buddy that correct small problems or improve small
areas or add small features.

Okay, I'm ready of an assault! ;-)

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:22:45 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Software Carousel conflicts in Sys Man
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              29, 99 11:05:39 am"
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> Hmmm, no. DOS is not an issue here since I'm using Software Carousel.
> However, the problem with SC and Sys Man is that I might inadvertently open
> the same file in another session -- and cause corruption of the file.

Wouldn't the DOS SHARE.EXE program handle this if placed in AUTOEXEC.BAT?

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:29:22 -0700
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Okay people,

I had no idea my cashflow spreadsheet would attract so much attention (well,
10 people asking for it is a lot for me). So I've decided to improve it and
automate it as much as possible. In its current state, it's pretty much a
dead spreadsheet that does nothing except add/subtract numbers, with one
little macro to copy the last month to the new month. The rest is a manual
job of cleaning up the old/new month to remove duplicate items. So hopefully
everyone who has asked for it will send me feedback/frustrations so I can
eventually put it in S.U.P.E.R.

BTW, I haven't seen many spreadsheets on S.U.P.E.R., or any add-ins for
1-2-3. Anyone knows why? I mean, 1-2-3 is extremely powerful: you can build
so *really* snazzy stuff with it!

Philippe ;-)


----- Original Message -----
From: Nancy A. Barker <nancyb@BEST.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Cashflow spreadsheet


>    >I've been using a cashflow spreadsheet to plan my spendings! It's
>
>    >Let me know if you'd like to have it and try it!
>
>
> I would love to give it a try!  Thanks!
>
> n.
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
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On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Fryday wrote:

> - Improving on the builtin apps will keep us happy, make us happier as
> time goes by, and keep the edge compared to the other PDAs. Screw the
> fact that the 200LX crowd is slowly shrinking. (BTW, even though there
> are dishwashers, many people still do it by hand: shrinking does not
> mean extinction).

Anybody interested in the topic of improving System Manager apps should
look at the editorial I wrote about it at
http://www.hplx.net/editorials.10121998.html.

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Yes, a big effort and time commitment for a small return. That's why I
mentioned trying to get a hold of the original code. But that seems like a
pipe dream...

Philippe :-)

From: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
> What _I_ think we should do is rewrite all the built-in apps with NKIT so
> they're more readable and easier to customize.  But so far nobody's
> willing to take the challenge.  <g>

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Hmmm, no familiar with it. Might screw up the built-in apps trying to get to
the file... Anyone has an idea?

Philippe :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: Software Carousel conflicts in Sys Man


> > Hmmm, no. DOS is not an issue here since I'm using Software Carousel.
> > However, the problem with SC and Sys Man is that I might inadvertently
open
> > the same file in another session -- and cause corruption of the file.
>
> Wouldn't the DOS SHARE.EXE program handle this if placed in AUTOEXEC.BAT?
>
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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:41:23 -0700
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I have Sofware Carousel, and yesterday I tried running Secure Device. My
questions:

- Should I run SD in hp.bat or in autoexec.bat?
- When I ran SD in hp.bat and tried to access the drive in filer, I heard a
beep, I entered the passphrase, pressed ENTER, then I heard a beep again,
but the palmtop froze.

Any idea what's going on?

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:45:09 +0000
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Just in case anyone finds it useful, starting with a straight Red Hat 5.2
install on my Sony Vaio PCG-505TX, all I had to do was uncomment the #-ed-out
lines in /etc/pcmcia/ide.opts, change DO_FSCK to "n" (since fsck.msdos isn't
available anywhere I can find), and mkdir /ide. Bingo, stick the card in and
it goes bleep bleep, and my 85MB Sandisk flash that was A: on my LX is now
/ide on my laptop. According to the docs it's wise to type "cardctl eject"
before you pop it out; the HOWTO claims that they've not gotten around to
making the IDE card services module hot-ejectable as yet.

Time to re-think my backup strategy. But I'll be playing with Minix Real Soon
Now (tm).

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:49:34 -0700
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On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Fryday wrote:

> Yes, a big effort and time commitment for a small return. That's why I
> mentioned trying to get a hold of the original code. But that seems
> like a pipe dream...

From what I hear, Hal is definitely right-- the code is extremely
difficult to understand.  Things like being spread out into zillions of
files, hideous spaghetti function calls, etc.  Probably easier to start
from scratch with something more logically structured like NKIT.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:52:28 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Really dumb question on packet

What is the differance between using a packet radio network or using
a radio system like go america? Could packet radio be used to hook
into the go america system?

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:59:54 -0700
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I like the editorial. It certainly has a certain "world domination" flair,
but nevertheless a new and improved Systems Manager -- using expanded
memory -- is a great idea. But doing it and keeping the same look/feel/set
of features is gonna be a major pain in the butt -- unless we have something
to look at. At least, we'll be able to use the built-in apps with the new
system manager instead of having to come up with the whole nine yards on the
first release...

Philippe ;-)

----- Original Message -----
From: David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application


> On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Fryday wrote:
>
> > Yes, a big effort and time commitment for a small return. That's why I
> > mentioned trying to get a hold of the original code. But that seems
> > like a pipe dream...
>
> From what I hear, Hal is definitely right-- the code is extremely
> difficult to understand.  Things like being spread out into zillions of
> files, hideous spaghetti function calls, etc.  Probably easier to start
> from scratch with something more logically structured like NKIT.
>
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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:53:38 -0500
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<<However, the problem with SC and Sys Man is that I might inadvertently
open
the same file in another session -- and cause corruption of the file.

Does anyone know if there's a feature in SC to prevent that from
happening?
Is the author of SC on this list? I'd imagine a simple text file
containing
a list of open databases would do the strick.>>


Hopefully, this is what you are asking. Version 7.07 of SC doesn't allow
you to open more than one ABD, PDB, WDB, NDB file (in their respective
applications) at the same time.  It does allow more than one file in the
data base application. Therefore, if you opened the same data base file
in 2 sessions, you could (likely would) corrupt it.

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On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> What is the differance between using a packet radio network or using a
> radio system like go america? Could packet radio be used to hook into
> the go america system?

I don't think so... but perhaps somebody more familiar with amateur packet
radio could explain the differences between the two systems.  (Go America,
for what it's worth, uses either the BellSouth Wireless Data network, the
ARDIS network, or the CDPD network.)

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:57:04 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Subject:      Re: ATA Flash cards <==> Linux
Comments: To: Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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              Apr 29, 1999 at 05:45:09PM +0000
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Rod Whitby and were playing around with Linux and those cheapy NECX card
readers for desktop machines not too long ago. He turned me onto using AUTOFS
with the flash disk and it works wonderfully. I pop in the card, the machine
beeps and then I just type "cd /mnt/flash". To unmount, I just change out of
that directory and 30 seconds later the moint point vanishes and the card can
be extracted. Easy Schmeasy. :)
--
Mitch
SUPER Team

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On 04-29 06:52am CDT, the following was written:

> What is the differance between using a packet radio network or using
> a radio system like go america? Could packet radio be used to hook
> into the go america system?

Amateur AX.25 packet or commercial packet?

Jeff


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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:13:40 -0600
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              Jan Allbright <wharfrat@PCISYS.NET>
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Packet Radio requires that you hold an amateur radio license and utilizes
the amateur radio spectrum. This limits connections to about 1200 baud for
VHF (2Meter). Connections in the higher frequencies allow for faster
speeds. Direct access to the InterNet is limited due to the legal aspects
of third party traffic (that is communicaitons not from licensed
amateurs). Thus Amateur Packet Radio looks more like a BBS as opposed to
th InterNet.

"Go America" is a comercial product that is designed for InterNet access.
It does not require that you hold a license (Go America holds the
license).

If you are looking for wireless InterNet access - Go America would be your
better choice.

On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> What is the differance between using a packet radio network or using
> a radio system like go america? Could packet radio be used to hook
> into the go america system?
>
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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:54:48 -0230
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To:                     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> Strikes me you are swimming against three strong currents:
>   (1) Alternative hardware is getting better, cheaper, faster;

The only thing is that no one is selling it.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:23:52 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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1999-04-29-18:12:04 David Sargeant:
> What _I_ think we should do is rewrite all the built-in apps with NKIT so
> they're more readable and easier to customize.  But so far nobody's
> willing to take the challenge.  <g>

Well, I keep tip-toeing closer and closer, by teensy little steps. So far I've
beenm pondering some core data structures. One thing that totally rocks about
the LX PIM suite is the largely consistent roots in a common db core. Much of
the annoyance that I'd love to lose comes from inconsistencies and limitations
in the use of that db core.

So I'm thinking, time as come for a new one. I haven't quite settled the final
details yet, but so far I'm thinking of a text format for the basic database;
it'd be CSV, with the schema encoded up top. Maybe e.g.

        "Restaurant","Phone","Category","Address","Note"
        "c(70)","c(35)","c(32)","c(73)c(73)","c(76)+"

followed by CSV for the data. Maybe add another couple of records that
document the index and full-page screen layouts.

Add some auxiliary index files for fast random access, make a really efficient
low-level access library so it's tolerably fast overall, then layer it atop an
I/O library that allows you to place any files you want into zip archives.

If we could do that much, and provide a suitably clean user interface with a
look 'n' feel similar enough to the builtin phonebook, then we could start
rassling with other important data types --- numeric, timestamp, interval,
category, checkbox, radio-box, whatever else we can dream up.

I'm thinking this would be nicest if assembled in very portable C, designed to
be able to run in very limited space --- I'd love to be able to run the
identical PIM compiled as a .EXM with the aid of a compat shim interface to
the PAL libs, or as a native executable under Minix on the palmtop, or as a
shockingly small and fast utility under Linux.

So I'm dreaming, a man can dream, can't he?

:-)

-Bennett

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:57:18 -0230
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Subject:                Lost HP200LX, help?
To:                     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> Can anyone suggest some help:
>
> I left my HP200LX on my seat after arriving from Frankfurt last
> night. UA977 Frankfurt/Dulles 3/31/99. I have reported it but
> there is only a recording on the number with a promise to get back
> in 10 days.
>
> Any ideas?

Maybe this is a sign that we should all put a firm adhesive label or
two on our machines with our name, address, and phone number?
In some place where it would not get rubbed off.

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Date sent:              Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:25:50 -0400
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To:                     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:15:31 -0400 (EDT)
>
> Hi gang-
>
> I know this has come up here before, but Digi-Key is a great source of
> hardware to use with your palmtops!  The latest catalog has the 2mm
> connectors for the serial port, Panasonic 1500 mAHr NiMH AA batteries,
> bright white LEDs (2300 mcd), heat shrink tubing and just about anything
> else you might be looking for for a palmtop project.
>

Just remember though that their catalog is BIG.

And the contents are really quite unreadable to any but those
steeped in the language and trade of electronics.

For other people, if it actually had something you needed in there,
you'd never know.

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Date sent:              Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:27:23 -0400
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>
> You might try writing to the Netmind folks.  They have been pretty
> responsive to people's requests so far, from what I can tell.

Who/ where are they?


>
> P.S. You could maybe set up a timed macro on the LX, have it launch
> something like Lynx, and later retrieve the page from the cache when
> you're ready.

What's that?  Retrieve the page from the cache?  Could you
explain?

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On 04-29 02:13pm CDT, the following was written:

> the amateur radio spectrum. This limits connections to about 1200 baud for
> VHF (2Meter). Connections in the higher frequencies allow for faster
> speeds.

Unless you live in Europe where 9600bps is all the rage <g>. Maybe one here
in the States we can speed it up just a bit. 1200bps functional, but 9600bps
would be much better!

73 Jeff W4JEF



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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:04:38 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:50:20 -0700, "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." <Andrew.Wa=
chtel@CSHS.ORG> wrote:

> what are the dimensions of the omnibook

You can find the dimensions for the omnibooks at my site:

Its: http://home.earthlink.net/~qman

HTH

Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:51:18 -0500
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              "Nickum, Roy H." <NickumRH@BV.COM>
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Maybe a custom replacement for our HP20LX's in a billet machined aluminum
enclosure is not so far fetched.

See some of the articles @ http://www.cellcomputing.com

In particular, one on a custom pilot's replacement for paper charts @
http://www.cellcomputing.com/third/newswhit3.html

The web site, by the way, is running on their 85.6x54x12.7 mm CardPC with
the Linux OS and Apache web server.  They claim it has been running for over
4 months with down time only to upgrade to Red Hat Linux 5.1.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:43:23 +0000
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> >I think I can help you with this. Simply rename your phone.pdb to phone.gdb
> and open it with the database app. Then using the menus
> > you can modify the database to your heart's content. Specifically, you can

The only potential problem with the addition of fields to the pdb is
that the HP PIM applications which come with the Omnibook series may not
be able to deal with the modified file structure.  It is not a problem
on the HPx00 series but on the Windows' based versions of those
applications.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:10:17 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Subject:      Re: Fw: Cashflow spreadsheet
Comments: To: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>

>BTW, I haven't seen many spreadsheets on S.U.P.E.R., or any add-ins for
>1-2-3. Anyone knows why? I mean, 1-2-3 is extremely powerful: you can build
>so *really* snazzy stuff with it!


:-) Seems nobody uses it... Bugger the other apps, if one has a spreadsheet,
programmable too, then thats all one needs. I remember being very impressed
with a simple macro system for SuperCalc once upon a time. With it one could
write letters. Bold, italic, underlined, left, centre and right justified
text. Wonderfull! :-)

br

Franklin

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Comments: To: "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>

What's a Pavillion?

>Yup, sure is just got a copy with my new HP Pavilion,
>would you like me to zip a demo 8-) up for you?

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:12:58 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends!

I just sent a new article to Mitch.
This time my subject was 'how to create a IR transmitter device'.
You can see there how I made my own device for communication
between palmtop and desktop PC via infrared.

You find it in the more... section of palmtop.net:

www.palmtop.net/more.html

There is also one more new article from me regarding the
serial port of the LX. It describes which pins lead which signals,
how to connect to the serial port of a desktop PC or a modem
and how to build a serial cable / null modem cable.

Hope you enjoy it
daniel

Daniel Hertrich, Germany
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Thank you for the primer Stan. It was just the sort of thing I was =
looking for. I didn't learn anything new(!), but knowing that I hadn't =
missed anything and that I'm going about things the right way is equally =
valuable.

You explain things well, so,  next question. Why might someone set up =
multiple mail boxes? Is there any use for them if you have only one ISP?
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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:15:09 +0000
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And I will change the subject if I can fit in a reasonable one liners

> - Because of the previous points, there might be an incentive to either: a)
> get the source code and mess around with it, or b) rewrite the builtin apps,
> or c) write TSRs like Buddy that correct small problems or improve small
> areas or add small features.
> Okay, I'm ready of an assault! ;-)

It is good to see someone so gung ho!!!

One of the programmers who has read the developer's kit and knows what's
what might know but there is at least, a limited (no so limited???)
ability to alter the behavior of some of the built-in applications with
the use of some special files place in c:\_dat.  There are one or two
examples, the more popular being FASTDB.TSR.  There was another, I
recall, that had to do with longer custom sound files working in the
appointment application.

Again, I don't know what or how these apps work but they obviously have
some kind of hooks which loads them as the hp is reinitialized and then
incorporates the code into the internal applications.

ANYBODY know how far and how powerful that facility is?????

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Hi All:

     It seem there has been so much discussion, and I'm pleased to say
fruitful discussion (as opposed to flame warS), that an increase in the
daily limit is in order. To that end, I have up the daily limit to 100
messages.

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:43:33 -0400
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              Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
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 anyone know of a way to get external sound source on the 200LX ??

 PCMCIA sound card? or any serial based sound output devices ??
 (par-pcmcia card and travel sound device too much hassle)

 would anyone be interested in something small and external for
sound output ??

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:43:29 +0200
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Subject:      Using Rand McNally roadmaps with LXMap

Does anyone know if the above can be copied and used with LXMap?

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On 04-29 04:39pm CDT, the following was written:

>      It seem there has been so much discussion, and I'm pleased to say
> fruitful discussion (as opposed to flame warS), that an increase in the
> daily limit is in order. To that end, I have up the daily limit to 100
> messages.

The real truth is that Al is tired of me calling him in the middle of the
night, when he is trying to sleep, to get him to release the list.... just
kidding <grin>. Thanks Al for the raising of the limit!

Jeff


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    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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On 04-29 04:43pm CDT, the following was written:

>  anyone know of a way to get external sound source on the 200LX ??

David put a headphone jack in his LX, that would be one way, but it requires
a bit of surgery.

Jeff


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    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
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On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> David put a headphone jack in his LX, that would be one way, but it
> requires a bit of surgery.

Not a terrible amount of surgery, really, but a fair amount.  Certainly
nothing as complicated as installing a memory connector on the
motherboard.  <g>  The instructions are on my Hardware Hacking page.

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>So, the question is, does anybody know whether Turbo C++ 3.0 runs on the 200LX?
>
>I have Turbo C++ 2.0, which does run fine. Is 3.0 a viable upgrade for us?
>
>Kiyoshi Akima
>kakima@ix.netcom.com

Hi Kiyoshi & list

From the Borland Turbo 3.0 C++ manual...

Turbo C++ 3.0 requires 286+ DOS3.31+ 640k 1MBextended and HD.  any 80 column
monitor.

I'd say this rules out the LX.  Any gurus think they could tweak the SW?

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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Before anyone plans heavy use of Palmtop.Com and pays for all
the extra features I recommend you try using the simple free
email for a while.

I tried using it and found cc:Mail unreliable.  I had numerous
200LX hangs. I don't know if the problem was Palmtop.com (I
think this unlikely as Martin also run a cc:Mail postoffice for
commercial customers), or cc:Mail in the 200LX or maybe it's
just my 200LX.

cheers... Russ

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>>  anyone know of a way to get external sound source on the 200LX ??

Hi all

I have a Noteworthy SCSI/Audio card Model NWCOMB02 from Toshiba.

I used it on a laptop with no CD or sound card to give those features for
me. Docs say it needs Win3.1 or higher for the included software.

Low power consumption (dont know how low)

I was wondering if someone in the US could call Toshiba customer support on
1-800-999-4273 to find if this a possible for the LX.. ie does DOS software
exist/be written if the power consumption is low enough.

The card was like USD80 and it would be cool to be able to hook a SCSI drive
to the LX as well as play/record sound.

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How do you disable the "Press any key" after a batch file when scheduling a
program to run in appt. manager?

Thanks,

Philippe :-)

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On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

humm a headphone jack.. humm the internal PC speaker is so limited i was
thinking something with alittle more umph' =)


> On 04-29 04:43pm CDT, the following was written:
>
> >  anyone know of a way to get external sound source on the 200LX ??
>
> David put a headphone jack in his LX, that would be one way, but it requires
> a bit of surgery.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>     *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
>     |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
>     |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
>     |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
>     *------------------------------------------------------------------*
>
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>

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humm this sounds like a repackaged TOAST & JAM card (SCSI/Sound)

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On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Sputnik wrote:

> humm a headphone jack.. humm the internal PC speaker is so limited i
> was thinking something with alittle more umph' =)

Believe me, you won't be disappointed with a headphone jack.  Even a
simple pair of headphones on the LX's 8-volt "loudest" volume generates
quite a loud tone.  Of course, if you want more _sophisticated_ sound,
this won't help at all.  But for sheer volume, the headphone jack is the
way to go.

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On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:38:43 -0700, Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

> How do you disable the "Press any key" after a batch file when schedulin=
g a
> program to run in appt. manager?

Put a upside down " =BF " question mark in the comments field.

By using the FN+3 combo. Trust me it'll work!



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On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote:

> Believe me, you won't be disappointed with a headphone jack.  Even a
> simple pair of headphones on the LX's 8-volt "loudest" volume generates
> quite a loud tone.  Of course, if you want more _sophisticated_ sound,
> this won't help at all.  But for sheer volume, the headphone jack is the
> way to go.
>
 Oh i believe it would be loud :)

 yeah i was thinking of something along the lines of 4 or more voices, so
 the internal speaker wont do maybe a double speed LX could use a
 multitasking speaker program for multiple voices.. but thats something
 i dont have :(

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David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:

> From what I hear, Hal is definitely right-- the code is extremely
> difficult to understand.  Things like being spread out into zillions of
> files, hideous spaghetti function calls, etc

Part of the reason for this is that the ROM code is
eXecute-In-Place (XIP) and run directly from the ROM.  The 2MB
of ROM in the 200LX is made of of a bunch of banks that use
special hardware to switch the chunks of ROM into a page of
address space between 640K and 1MB to execute.  Then when
another piece of code is needed that is from another chunck,
the ROM banks have to be switched electronically and then the
program can continue.

There is one very big benefit to this scheme.  No system RAM
is needed to hold code for any ROM programs.  So, precious
system RAM is not taken up by loading the ROM programs from
the ROM into RAM to run.  Also, the bank switching is
considerably faster than copying ROM code into RAM before it
can get executed.

The downside is some very complicated code.  :-(  also,
debugging can only be done on a computer that has the special
bank switching hardware.  To test the ROM programs, HP used to
use a special version of the 100LX that allowed the plug in
flash card to functionally replace the internal ROM.  So, they
would write a flash card, plug it into a 100LX and this would
give them a 200LX to test.


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Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:

> Well, actually, by better I really meant adding small features that would
> just make everyone's life easier ... as long as the changes
> are small and useful, we might be able to crank out "nice" little things to
> keep the apps at the bleeding edge whenever we want

A bit of history about the FASTDB.TSR program.  I and a couple
of other TeamHP members from the HP Handhelds forum on
CompuServe were visiting HP's facilities in Corvallis, Oregon.
 We were having lunch with the two programmers responsible for
the majority of the code HP worte for the 95/100/200LX ROMs
and mentioned that opening and closing of GDB & PDB files can
be kind of slow sometimes.  A little later in the day, Andy
Gryc came to us with a floppy in hand and said to try using
this untested FASTDB.TSR he just wrote.  He said that if it
worked to make it available to others.  The rest is history.
<grin>

There already is a mechanism designed into the SysMgr API that
allows the internal applications to be "patched".  This is
what the FASTDB.TSR does.  These *.TSR patches sit in the
C:\_DAT directory are are automatically loaded and used by
SysMgr as needed.  There can be application-specific TSR's to
do all kinds of things.

I don't know the details of how this is done but I have heard
that this stuff exists and that is would be a challenge to use
it.  The documentation is in the SDK.  Let's consider my words
as a challenge to those C programmers out there.


Stan

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Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> To demonstrate Vertical display, I wrote a tiny TSR. After
> activation with Fn-V it outputs all text vertically

I tried it.  It is amazing that even after all these years,
the 200LX can still suprise me with it's capabilities.  And
congratulations to you, Stefan, for finding this golden
nugget.  Maybe your discovery will be put to good use.


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On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:24:11 -0700, "Fryday" <fryday@california.com> =
wrote:

> There's no comments field in the appointment form. I think you're =
confusing
> it with the program form in the app manager. In any case, I tried =
putting
> the inverted question mark in the Location and the Note field, but it =
didn't
> work...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Philippe :-)

Sorry about!
In that case put a " Q " as in Qman for the location.

I told you not to trust! Anyway that should fix your probelm. (:-)


Regards,

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Sounds like the way to go for all sorts of small interesting improvements!

Philippe ;-)

----- Original Message -----
From: Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 4:45 PM
Subject: HP EXM application


> Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:
>
> > Well, actually, by better I really meant adding small features that
would
> > just make everyone's life easier ... as long as the changes
> > are small and useful, we might be able to crank out "nice" little things
to
> > keep the apps at the bleeding edge whenever we want
>
> A bit of history about the FASTDB.TSR program.  I and a couple
> of other TeamHP members from the HP Handhelds forum on
> CompuServe were visiting HP's facilities in Corvallis, Oregon.
>  We were having lunch with the two programmers responsible for
> the majority of the code HP worte for the 95/100/200LX ROMs
> and mentioned that opening and closing of GDB & PDB files can
> be kind of slow sometimes.  A little later in the day, Andy
> Gryc came to us with a floppy in hand and said to try using
> this untested FASTDB.TSR he just wrote.  He said that if it
> worked to make it available to others.  The rest is history.
> <grin>
>
> There already is a mechanism designed into the SysMgr API that
> allows the internal applications to be "patched".  This is
> what the FASTDB.TSR does.  These *.TSR patches sit in the
> C:\_DAT directory are are automatically loaded and used by
> SysMgr as needed.  There can be application-specific TSR's to
> do all kinds of things.
>
> I don't know the details of how this is done but I have heard
> that this stuff exists and that is would be a challenge to use
> it.  The documentation is in the SDK.  Let's consider my words
> as a challenge to those C programmers out there.
>
>
> Stan
>
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In a message dated 4/29/1999 03:24:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET writes:

> Maybe this is a sign that we should all put a firm adhesive label or
>  two on our machines with our name, address, and phone number?
>  In some place where it would not get rubbed off.
>
Sounds like my "Physical Top Card" solution.  I have designed & printed a
label with Name, Address, Phone, Fax, e-mail, etc.  The label is sized to fit
on top of the LX with 1/4" bottom, left, & right, and 1/8" top green LX
exposed.  Then I use clear "Contact" Brand shelf paper to affix the label to
the LX.

I've had the same label in place for nearly 2 years, and it looks really
professional.  Trim the Contact Paper neatly, so it doesn't snag.

Works for me.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:05:46 +1000
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Hi all

I have recently read of the bootup sequence on "normal" PC's and was
wondering why we are stuck with DOS5.0 on the LX?

If the system will recognise Autoexec and Config.sys on a flash card why not
another DOS as well?

ie if command.com MSDos.sys and io.sys were on Flash would it boot?

If not why not?

TIA

Russell

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Quinton,

I posted that ad, and have since posted the OB300 and a few other items  to
the list.  I have recieved LOTS of responses and should have probably left
my
price at $200 instead of lowering it to $150 for the list, but so is life.
Now Im
wading thru my responses, so anyone out there wondering, Im reading as fast
as I can <G>

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 12:07 PM
Subject: Fwd: FS: Omnibook 300, 4mb RAM, 40mb HD, DOS+Windows+Excel+Word in
ROM


To the person who was looking for an Omnibook 300. I saw this one for
sale earlier this week. Drop him a line and see if its still available.

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From: "Alchemist" <driden@stlnet.com>
Subject: FS: Omnibook 300, 4mb RAM, 40mb HD, DOS+Windows+Excel+Word in ROM
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:38:37 -0500

I have the following subnotebook computer for sale:

HP Omnibook 300
Instant On Functionality with Weeks of Standby Power available.
386/20
4mb RAM  (2mb Builtin + 2mb Expansion Card)
40mb HD (Type III, PCMCIA)
1 Free PCMCIA Type II card slot.
Approx. 2.8lbs.
battery (holds a charge, new batteries are rated for 5hrs with a HD, and
9hrs if a Flash card is used instead)*
Will Also run for hours with 4 AA batteries (lithium or Duracell Ultras
recommended)
AC Adapter (has loose connection, but works fine for running and charging
the unit)
640x480 Reflective LCD Display. (Looks good in most light, excellent
outdoors)

* The battery has run for hours in my testing, but no guarantees on battery
life of old batteries.

Includes the following applications in ROM*
- DOS 5
- Windows 3.1
- Microsoft Word 2.x
- Microsoft Excel 4.x
- HP PIM (Appointments, Phone book, etc.)
- Laplink Remote Software
- I will install 'Calmira' a windows 95 like shell application if you wish.
Gives the look and feel of WIn95 without the overhead.

* Rom applications are execute in place, meaning they execute from ROM and
do not
take up RAM memory to execute.  This makes the system perform as if it has
considerably
more than its 4mb of memory.

This is an excellent take anywhere notebook, its light weight, long battery
life, and ability to
run from AA batteries if needed give it functionality similar to todays
Windows CE machines
such as the NEC 700 without giving up the functionality of having real DOS
and WINDOWS (not CE)
available.

Price:  $200 + Shipping

Please send Inquiries to driden@stlnet.com

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com






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Hi Andreas,

Yes, I have tried out VR (as an "external" program), but the
main problem was the fact that VR wasn't designed as an email
reader, and the lack of integration with POST/LX (e.g. one
keypress to move to the next message, one keypress to reply,
etc).

I don't think that turning the machine would be too much of a
hassle, especially when reading the messages on a mailing
list (such as HPLX), for example, where you're reading for
the most part, and not replying.

 -Mike

> This once has been discussed during the beta test. If I recall
> correctly, we found that just for reading POST/LX message files, VR
> already can be used and for full integration (reading, replying etc),
> it would be quite inconvenient to always turn the machine. So it was
> not implemented. Did you try VR on a POST/LX message file. Maybe it
> does all you want.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:16:32 GMT
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Makes you wonder... What if Stefan had written Windows,
instead of Gates & co.?!

Thanks for the great little TSR, Stefan!

 -Mike

> Please don't flame me for attaching the 700 bytes TSR.
>
> Stefan

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:18:14 -0400
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>
> If the system will recognise Autoexec and Config.sys on a flash card why not
> another DOS as well?
>
> ie if command.com MSDos.sys and io.sys were on Flash would it boot?

humm good question.. im sure it's something with the OS files are already
in rom it seems and the only thing the system looks for when booting is
the config.sys and autoexec.bat files on which ever drive you choose to be
the boot drive..

now that you asked that question i wonder if SYSTEM COMMANDER would work
on the palmtop or if there is a way to do a soft-reset to where you can
patch the internal-rom (can this be done) first to skip the internal
DOS files and look on your PCMCIA card ?? one of those new 80/128 meg CF
cards would sound pretty nice =)

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:28:36 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Fw: HP EXM application

Lynn M. Cavendish writes:

> fact, the market is making it increasingly likely that nothing will replace
> the HP in the next 2 or 3 generations of development...
>  ... I expect to stay with the HP200LX for a long time to come.
>
> (I suspect I have more company on this list than you think.)

Hear!  Hear!

I'm in your company.

Ted

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> I have Sofware Carousel, and yesterday I tried running Secure Device. My
> questions:
>
> - Should I run SD in hp.bat or in autoexec.bat?
> - When I ran SD in hp.bat and tried to access the drive in filer, I heard a
> beep, I entered the passphrase, pressed ENTER, then I heard a beep again,
> but the palmtop froze.

SecureDevice is a device driver so you need to put it in the
CONFIG.SYS like this...

  device=d:\path\secdev.sys c:\secdev.!@# /t13

Then later, when you want to access the drive you need to use
SD's LOGIN command, from a DOS command line, in any of you SC
work areas. While you are logged into the SD encrypted drive it
is accessable from all your SC work areas.

You can use LOGOUT, or LOGIN without a (valid) password, to
close up the SD drive again.  The "/t13" in my command above
causes the drive to automatically logout 13 minutes after I've
last used it.

cheers... Russ

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> What is the differance between using a packet radio network or using a
> radio system like go america? Could packet radio be used to hook into
> the go america system?

One of the biggest differences is that ham radio is for hams.
There are rules against commercial use of amateur radio so that
would be a big limitation for many people.

While I'm a Ham (N6EGJ) I'm not active anymore and have never
used Packet so I can't discuss the technical differences.

cheers... Russ

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I was trying to use SDTSR.COM to automate the password logging process. The
tsr is supposed to wait for access to the drive and then automatically ask
for the passphrase. However, it seems to hang the lx after the passphrase
has been entered.

Philippe

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From: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@ibm.net>
To: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>; <HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: Secure Device, Software Carousel and hang ups


> > I have Sofware Carousel, and yesterday I tried running Secure Device. My
> > questions:
> >
> > - Should I run SD in hp.bat or in autoexec.bat?
> > - When I ran SD in hp.bat and tried to access the drive in filer, I
heard a
> > beep, I entered the passphrase, pressed ENTER, then I heard a beep
again,
> > but the palmtop froze.
>
> SecureDevice is a device driver so you need to put it in the
> CONFIG.SYS like this...
>
>   device=d:\path\secdev.sys c:\secdev.!@# /t13
>
> Then later, when you want to access the drive you need to use
> SD's LOGIN command, from a DOS command line, in any of you SC
> work areas. While you are logged into the SD encrypted drive it
> is accessable from all your SC work areas.
>
> You can use LOGOUT, or LOGIN without a (valid) password, to
> close up the SD drive again.  The "/t13" in my command above
> causes the drive to automatically logout 13 minutes after I've
> last used it.
>
> cheers... Russ
>

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              Colin Thompson <burkec@GOLDSTATE.NET>
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During a tech support call to HP for my OmniBook yesterday, I had the
good fortune to speak with a real HP employee.  This fellow was very
knowledgeable, unusual for corporate techs.  We spent about 20 minutes
talking about the older HP products and the direction of the company.
There is still a strong demand for the 200LX and it should be
manufactured for quite some time.  I suspect this fellow's personal
200LX is on it's way to Thaddeus for a 64 meg Times2 upgrade by now.

Colin

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:21:40 -0500
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On 04-29 08:14pm CDT, the following was written:

> While I'm a Ham (N6EGJ) I'm not active anymore and have never
> used Packet so I can't discuss the technical differences.

Come on Russ..... drag out some of that old gear out of the closet and put
it to use..... or if you're not gonna use it, I DO take donations <grin>.

73 Jeff W4JEF


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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:41:23 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      the stack overflow error

Hi Qman and Ed,

--- quoted from Qman's response ---
>Try adding this line to your config.sys:
>
>Stacks=9,256

  I tried that and it had no effect, at all. I did add it in as a
permanent line in my config.sys file, anyway though. Thanks, Qman. It
will probably come in handy for other DOS applications that I may install
in the future. :-)

--- quoted from Ed's response ---
>Sounds like you tried the hard reboot. Did you try chkdsk to see if the
>disk(s) might be corrupted. It happens.

  I tried chkdsk and it didn't find any file or directory corruption.

  I think I know what the problem is now. My network software tricks my
HP200LX into thinking that there are 4 more local drives. DOS on my
HP200LX also sees E:, S:, X:  and M: drives as ordinary local drives. I
now strongly suspect that filer was not programmed to handle so many
local drives. <g>

  It's no big deal to me, though. I'm more at home at the DOS prompt,
anyway. :-)

  However.... I guess that quirk could be considered a drawback to the
use of LBL network software on the HP200LX for those who prefer to use
Filer.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:54:04 -0400
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              Eben Rubin <erubin@POL.NET>
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Does anyone have any experience with Intuit's "Pocken Quicken Connect"?
The HP connectivity pack merges and synchronizes with only up to Quicken
for Windows 3, and I'm up to 6 already.

I thought I could translate/synch the HP with my old Quicken 3, and then
let Quicken 6 import the data. It's easy enough to get Q6 to convert the
file, but it won't merge it with existing data. So I wound up exporting
and importing QIF files. It worked, but it was a pain.

Does anybody have a better solution?
And does anybody have a copy of Pocket Quicken Connect that they're not
using, and might want to sell?
THANKS,
Eben

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:54:16 +1200
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Hi All,
Can someone please tell me the secret to opening the 200LX  case?
I want to check whether I have the socket for extra memory.
I pulled the little feet off, and unscrewed the four screws, but it really
doesn't want to come apart, and I don't want to force it.
What's holding it together?

Cheers...Roger Whitmarsh

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On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Roger Whitmarsh wrote:

> Hi All, Can someone please tell me the secret to opening the 200LX
> case? I want to check whether I have the socket for extra memory. I
> pulled the little feet off, and unscrewed the four screws, but it
> really doesn't want to come apart, and I don't want to force it.
> What's holding it together?

There are instructions on the Hardware Hacking pages at www.hplx.net, I'm
pretty sure.  <g>

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On 04-29 10:06pm CDT, the following was written:

> There are instructions on the Hardware Hacking pages at www.hplx.net, I'm
> pretty sure.  <g>

I sure hope he saved all thos AOL disks they used to mail out once or twice
a week <g>. It's amazing what you can do with a 3-1/2" floppy disk.

Jeff


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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:23:02 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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>I sure hope he saved all thos AOL disks they used to mail out once or twice
>a week <g>. It's amazing what you can do with a 3-1/2" floppy disk.
Hi all

Where did AOL mail them?  Never received one in Oz  :)

Russell

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Hello all.

I have been trying to get TBLX running, and have had some problems.

The toolbar appears, but the omly submenu which works is documents.
Programs and Find do not work. The submenu appears, bit onlt the one
menu item position is built, but no text appears.  I can then cursor up
and down to see it clear a position for the next menu item, but still
no text appears.

Also, on the first level of menu, the Run does not work.  It does
nothing at all.

Any idea what is wrong?

TIA
David Eggins

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:54:28 +1200
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Hi,
I'm missing the connection between opening the 200LX case and
disks mailed out by AOL.
Am I thick or are you guys on something?


>I sure hope he saved all thos AOL disks they used to mail out once or
twice
>a week <g>. It's amazing what you can do with a 3-1/2" floppy disk.

>>Where did AOL mail them?  Never received one in Oz  :)

Roger

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How many listmembers are using PGP on their LX's?

Jeff

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    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
    *------------------------------------------------------------------*

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:17:04 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 04-29 10:54pm CDT, the following was written:

> I'm missing the connection between opening the 200LX case and
> disks mailed out by AOL.
> Am I thick or are you guys on something?

You can use a 3-1/2" floppy disk to open the LX up in a fairly safe manner
without hurting the case.

Jeff


    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
    *------------------------------------------------------------------*

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:40:00 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
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From:         David Ness <DNess@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Re: PGP & the LX
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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I have PGP on my LX. About 3 yrs ago I used it regularly.
Then I realized that (1) I never needed `certification' of
just about anything that passed thru my pc (other than `commercial'
transactions); (2) it was a real PITA to read all the absolutely
useless garbage of ---BEGIN PGP ... etc. when I didn't care about the
consequence of someone lying about who they were anyway. After all,
if it is not the `real' Jeff Johns asking this question, I'd answer
it anyway.

I keep one file PGP protected on my LX. It contains my passwords to
other accounts, and I am pretty careful to blitz the erased storage
whenever I look at it, which I need to do once every few months.
I figure if I lose my 200Lx, my passwords are reasonably safe.

My conclusion: PGP is really swell for what it is, but what it _isn't_
is a help to normal communication. Along with things like long sigs
that I don't care about, it contributes `less' rather than `more'...

Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> How many listmembers are using PGP on their LX's?
>
> Jeff
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: 2.6.2
>
> iQB1AwUBNyktmaWqweldpM/1AQEakwL9FFsNRr277LPM8Dhs4yYW3s4IKCg1v9Pw
> jYjH3LUGDcjTc/Lmd8lD3/x1k2rDllkZHxhgoznV02rN1hIrNX/hqf8M5lgCIrkM
> 2xU4SNFd25rdQ9mHmb5Fj6Hr33575RVO
> =k8SQ
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>
>     *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
>     |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
>     |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
>     |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
>     *------------------------------------------------------------------*
>
> Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.05beta) REGISTERED
>

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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:01:41 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Quinton Jones JR <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Re: TBLX help
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>I have been trying to get TBLX running, and have had some problems.

>The toolbar appears, but the omly submenu which works is documents.
>Programs and Find do not work. The submenu appears, bit onlt the one
>menu item position is built, but no text appears.  I can then cursor up
>and down to see it clear a position for the next menu item, but still
>no text appears.

Confirming you copied the tblx.dat to your c:\_dat or a:\_dat directory
and add some programs?

I've included a copy of mine at the bottom for your review.

>Also, on the first level of menu, the Run does not work.  It does
>nothing at all.

In order for "Run" to work you must have DOSline installed.
I think its available for download on the SUPER Site.

TBLX.DAT

option
taskbar=2
allkill=4000
tblxend=1
123g=08A9
ip=6500

run
dosline=8100

find
Filename=6900
Contents=6d00

program
Accessories=0
PIM=0
Internet=0
Games=0
Quicken=ac00
ClipVue=6000
Lotus 123=bc00
DOS Prompt=c200
TaskList=7100
MoreExm Menu=6100
KeyM=A700
Log Express=6600
X-Finder=6f00

<Accessories>
More...=a400
Filer=a800
Memo=b800
Calculator=c000
StopWatch=b600
WorldTime=c600
SystemMacros=aa00
Laplink=ab00
Ffdb=6400
AlarmClock=069c

<PIM>
Appointments=b000
DataBase=ba00
NoteTaker=be00
PhoneBook=b400

<Internet>
WWW/LX=09ae
POST/LX=05f9
FTP/LX=08a9
CCmail=bf00
Comm=b2001

<Games>
Heart&Bones=c300
BlackJackt=6200
TigerFox=6300
Sol=6500

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:02:59 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
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From:         "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
Subject:      "We (don't) have A Winner!"
Comments: To: "webmaster@palmtop.net" <webmaster@palmtop.net>
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  I object to the "We have a winner" notice on the main www.palmtop.net
page.  While the utility Juha Husgafvel wrote is nice, it's only about a
third of what Ron Tatham's challenge requires.  Juha did _NOT_ write a "a
fast, simple synchronization program to go between the HP 200LX calendar
program and MS Outlook".  He only wrote an Outlook export program that saves
data in adb format.  That's a far cry from a full synchronization program...

  While I applaud Juha's work, let's not jump the gun and throw away what
Ron has so generously donated to the HPLX community before the real thing is
created.

  Regards,
        ... John L. Stanley

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:15:35 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              James Scheffler <srakkt@TIAC.NET>
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From:         James Scheffler <srakkt@TIAC.NET>
Subject:      Re: "We (don't) have A Winner!"
Comments: To: "Stanley, John L." <JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <92C6CDA989B8D2118D59006008BD51AF18A6C8@rc.addcoinc.com>
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>  While I applaud Juha's work, let's not jump the gun and throw away what
>Ron has so generously donated to the HPLX community before the real thing is
>created.

Given that it's Ron's challenge, it should be kept in perspective that it
is, after all, Ron's judgement call.  I'm certain Mitch would not have put
up such an announcement if Ron hadn't pronounced a winner.


R. James Scheffler
-and-
Srakkt-Hrairh
******************
"Do you like your spleen?  I can make a nice little hat of it for you."
-Srakkt-Hrairh
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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:20:51 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Curtis Cameron <curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET>
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From:         Curtis Cameron <curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET>
Organization: None
Subject:      Re: PIM access on desktop
Comments: To: Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <199904291406_MC2-73E6-79F3@compuserve.com>
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Ed Keefe wrote:

>The version of CPack that I use won't handle a modified .PDB file if it =
has
>the .PDB extension. So I rename the .PDB to .GDB and use the database
>Xlate/Merge.=20

Hmmm. My version of CPACK can handle modified PDB files fine. I even
load them into the database app without renaming them, edit the field
layout, and save them all while named .PDB. And it's pretty old - I
got it right when the 200LX first came out, and shortly thereafter got
an upgrade disk, which I think just fixed some Quicken stuff.

Now the Windows PIM app that others have talked about is something
else. If you haven't seen it, you're not missing much. It's MUCH
easier to use the CPACK apps on a PC than the Windows PIM apps. For
example, the display of the Note field is only two lines tall, and
there's no way to see more than two lines of it at a time.

--=20
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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:25:28 GMT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Curtis Cameron <curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET>
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From:         Curtis Cameron <curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET>
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Subject:      Outlook Contacts <=> HPLX - new version goes both ways
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Hi all,

I've modified the Outlook contacts to HPLX converter so that it now
converts in either direction. You can get it at
http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html.

--=20
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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:56:27 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
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From:         Anand Rao <slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET>
Subject:      Re: PIM access on desktop
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I use Win NT Workstation on the desktop. The CPACK only runs as a full
screen application. A lot of what I store on the 200LX comes not from
keyboard input but from 'soft copy' sources. I would very much prefer a
convenient way to 'cut and paste' information from other Windows
applications into the CPACK ?DB files, that I can then download into the
200LX.

Any feasible solution?

Many thanks.

Anand Rao

At 05:20 AM 30-04-1999 Friday +0000, Curtis Cameron wrote:
--------------------<snip>---------------------------------------------
>Now the Windows PIM app that others have talked about is something
>else. If you haven't seen it, you're not missing much. It's MUCH
>easier to use the CPACK apps on a PC than the Windows PIM apps. For
>example, the display of the Note field is only two lines tall, and
>there's no way to see more than two lines of it at a time.
>
>--
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Date:         Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:09:28 -1000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bob Graham <bgraham@ALOHA.NET>
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From:         Bob Graham <bgraham@ALOHA.NET>
Subject:      Jordana offer for HP200LX owners?
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Recently someone post a site where HP and someone else was offering a
special deal for HP200 owners to trade up to a Jordana. I thought I book
marked the url but can't find it. Can anyone help me out?

Aloha - bob     \ooo_
--
     ...............
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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:44:02 +0930
Reply-To:     rwhitby@hplx.net
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Secure Device, Software Carousel and hang ups
Comments: To: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>

Fryday writes:
> I have Sofware Carousel, and yesterday I tried running Secure Device. My
> questions:
>
> - Should I run SD in hp.bat or in autoexec.bat?

I load the secdev.sys file in my config.sys, and then run login.com on
an as-needed basis using DosLine in the sysmgr session, or directly in
a DOS sesion.  I have an auto-timeout set for 5 minutes.
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-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:54:27 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH
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From:         Andreas Garzotto <garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH>
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Stefan Peichl wrote:
> I'm glad that I have to disappoint you: Basically it would add
> only a few bytes

You seem to completely ignore the fact that with outputting text
vertically instead of horizontally, you have only done the simplest
part of the work. Also, this only works for the built-in fonts. Please
don't give people the illusion that programs could be modified with
"only a few bytes" added and then would be able to do everything
vertically. That way, your typo will come true <G> and people will be
disappointed - and so are the software authors that have to explain why
it is not just "adding a few bytes" to change applications.

> One other feature are 'clip regions', which
> restrict output to a previously defined window. Using it, you
> may run several smaller 'virtual screens' within the 640x200
> display. Could be a starting point for frames support in HV.

This feature is extensively used by HV. It does not help in any way to
display frames though, as it does not increase screen size, but in fact
even reduces the few pixels that can be used to render the data.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:20:11 +0930
Reply-To:     rwhitby@hplx.net
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@HPLX.NET>
Subject:      Re: PGP & the LX
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>

Jeff Johns writes:
> How many listmembers are using PGP on their LX's?

I created my public key on the HPLX back in 1996 - can anyone beat that
for the earliest public key generated on a HPLX ?

If anyone ever wants to send me a secret message, here's my public key.
You can check it on my website as well, and David Sargeant has a signed
copy of it on his keyring, so you can set up a web of trust through him
- of course, that assumes that you can trust David :-)

Type Bits/KeyID    Date       User ID
pub  1024/23EAC0CD 1996/11/22 Rod Whitby <rwhitby@iname.com>
                              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@hplx.net>
                              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@asc.corp.mot.com>
                              Rod Whitby <Rod_Whitby-A11375@email.mot.com>

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: 2.6.3ia
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=IdWU
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:47:04 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Subject:      Re: Custom replacement for the HP200LX
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http://www.emjembedded.com/products/single/dimm.html

Also, look here for DIMM size computers! But 290 mA for a 33 MHz 386...

br

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:42:13 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Franklin <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Subject:      Re: Custom replacement for the HP200LX
Comments: To: "Nickum, Roy H." <NickumRH@BV.COM>
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>See some of the articles @ http://www.cellcomputing.com
>
>In particular, one on a custom pilot's replacement for paper charts @
>http://www.cellcomputing.com/third/newswhit3.html


Mmm, for the 486GX-16, lowest/least/smallest, its 2.2 W which at 5 V is 440
mA. Way to much to pop in a 200LX, unless somebody patched/augmented the
power controller on the LX. The LX case could be machined to accept 5 mm
without increasing the thickness of the case. Time on AAs would be 3 hours
on 1300 mAh batts. One could run it only in DOS with terminal sw, something
like CTTY to connect to the 200LX?

Not that I would buy it, I want a colour screen, even like a Game Boy, and a
keyboard like a Psion or HPCE! :-)

br

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 04:27:30 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Alchemist <driden@STLNET.COM>
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Subject:      Spring Cleaning Sale! Update!
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All,

Wow! Im amazed at the response I got to my spring cleaning sale message.  Im
still
in the process of sorting out everyones responses but thought I would send a
quick
update to the list of whats been sold, and where things stand right now.
Ive been handling
all responses in the order received, although there are quite a few
responses for the remaining
Omnibook that I still need to go thru.

HP 95lx 512k - Unknown - Awaiting reply.
HP 1000cx 2mb    - SOLD
HP 1000cx 2mb    - SOLD
HP Omnibook 300 - 20mb Flash Version - SOLD

HP Omnibook 300 - 40mb HD Version.
I have quite a list of responses on this one, I'll be emailing you in the
order received tomorrow. (Fri)

Compaq SLT/286  - SOLD
Compaq 4/40cx, 20mb RAM, Docking station, Win95, battery, etc.  Available.
Chaplet 486/25, 4mb RAM, 120mb HD, 1.44" floppy notebook. Available.

If you are interested in any of the available units, let me know.

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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From:         Rick Rae <RickRae@USA.NET>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF:  Anyone know of something like this?
Comments: To: avardy@roadrunner.nf.net
In-Reply-To:  <199904291925.QAA26914@firma.thezone.net>

>> You might try writing to the Netmind folks.  They have been pretty
>> responsive to people's requests so far, from what I can tell.
>
>Who/ where are they?

Netmind is a service that watches a Web page of your choosing, and emails
you an alert (potentially including the page's content) when it changes.
http://www.netmind.com is the URL.

>> P.S. You could maybe set up a timed macro on the LX, have it launch
>> something like Lynx, and later retrieve the page from the cache when
>> you're ready.
>
>What's that?  Retrieve the page from the cache?  Could you
>explain?

Yes... basically I was just running off into the weeds, doing a bit of
"blue-sky" thinking on the off chance it might give someone ideas.

Lynx is a simple text-only browser that will run under DOS.

Most browsers keep local copies of recent pages in a "cache" directory, so
if you go back to that page you don't have to wait for it to reload from
the Internet.  (I have no idea if Lynx caches or not.)

The rest of it isn't really important since it was just theoretical anyway,
and you already have a more "real" answer, now that someone has
thoughtfully provided the address for the service I was trying to remember.

So, basically, I'd recommend ignoring everything I said after "Hello!"  8)

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:05:29 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: PIM access on desktop

Curtis Cameron writes:

> Now the Windows PIM app that others have talked about is something
> else. If you haven't seen it, you're not missing much. It's MUCH
> easier to use the CPACK apps on a PC than the Windows PIM apps.

This probably depends a bit on how you're using them.  I prefer
the OB version of phonebook on my desktop at work because the
only thing I use it for is getting addresses into the Windows
clipboard for pasting into letters.  The Windows version comes
up faster, too.

Ted

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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: PGP & the LX

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Jeff Johns writes:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> How many listmembers are using PGP on their LX's?
>
> Jeff
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----

I don't use it very often, but am set up to do so.

Ted

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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      "Could not establish connection"

Hi All,

I believe that I followed all of the directions given on the Palmtop.com
web site for establishing a free account, but after connecting to
Palmtop.com with my HP200LX and Motorola 14.4 cellular PCMCIA modem at
14,400 baud, getting the message, "call answered at 14,400 baud" and
waiting a while, I got the error message, "could not establish
connection."

Repeated tries produced the same results. I could hear the modem
connecting, but after that, nothing would happen at all. I do have the
"d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1" line in my autoexec.bat file.

Palmtop.com users:  Does anyone have a clue as to what I might have done
wrong?

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Subject:      System Manager interference?

Hi All,

A rather strange thing has happened recently that has presented a minor
inconvenience. Upon a ctrl-alt-del reboot into straight DOS, my HP200LX's
drives are indeed accessible from my desktop through my network, but as
soon as I run "200", my desktop loses access to those drives. I just get
the "drive not ready" error.

If I then click on the DOS icon in System Manager and immediately exit
DOS back to System Manager, my desktop will again be able to access the
HP200LX's drives.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but this seems to be a new behavior since I tried
filer for the first time.

Would anyone have any idea how I could get System Manager to revert back
to it's previous state in which it did not interfer with my network's
ability to access the HP200LX's drives?

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:12:56 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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From:         "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Re: "We (don't) have A Winner!"
In-Reply-To:  <3.0.5.32.19990430011535.00801330@pop.tiac.net>; from James
              Scheffler on Fri, Apr 30, 1999 at 01:15:35AM -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
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> Given that it's Ron's challenge, it should be kept in perspective that it
> is, after all, Ron's judgement call.  I'm certain Mitch would not have put
> up such an announcement if Ron hadn't pronounced a winner.

Exactly! Since I coud not be a judge (don't use Outlook calendaring) I started
a little Outlook app mailing list and let the guys who contributed to the
challenge decide. Ron T. made the final call and I will attach that message
here.

From: "Ron Tatham" <rtatham@ibm.net>
To: "j.h.husgafvel" <juha.husgafvel@progman.fi>
Cc: <outlook@palmtop.net>, <mitch@palmtop.net>
Subject: Re: Outlook to HPLX
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:00:40 -0400
X-Msmail-Priority: Normal
X-Priority: 3
X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155

Hi,
I just downloaded your file and it worked very well.  I don't use th TODO
list so I didn't try that part.  the calendar download was great.  I will
use it for the next few days to scout for bugs but I am really pleased. My
sceretary tried it and had no problems.  She hit the export button and
emailed the resuling appt.abd file (all in 2 minutes)Thank you for this
great job.
I am Copying Mitch on this e-mail.  I will ask him to forward the $250 to
you as the first person to meet my challenge.  Would you send him your
mailing address.
thanks again
ron

This doesn't mean the party's over (witness the valiant efforts of Game Wizard
Cameron). It only means that one battle has been won and to the victor go the
spoils. :)
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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:19:15 -0400
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              systemsconsulting@CSI.COM
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From:         Systems Consulting <systemsconsulting@CSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Jordana offer for HP200LX owners?
Comments: To: Bob Graham <bgraham@ALOHA.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <37294918.C96A4F8D@aloha.net>
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> Recently someone post a site where HP and someone else was offering a
> special deal for HP200 owners to trade up to a Jordana. I thought I book
> marked the url but can't find it. Can anyone help me out?
>
> Aloha - bob     \ooo_

http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/



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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:18:50 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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From:         "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Re: PGP & the LX
Comments: To: Rod Whitby <rwhitby@hplx.net>
In-Reply-To:  <199903301720.PNR01151@hplx.net>; from Rod Whitby on Fri, Apr 30,
              1999 at 05:20:11PM +0930
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Quoting Rod Whitby (rwhitby@hplx.net):

> I created my public key on the HPLX back in 1996 - can anyone beat that
> for the earliest public key generated on a HPLX ?
>
> Type Bits/KeyID    Date       User ID
> pub  1024/23EAC0CD 1996/11/22 Rod Whitby <rwhitby@iname.com>

Yawn! Another PGP newbie... ;)

Type Bits/KeyID    Date       User ID
pub  1024/767902BD 1995/09/06 Mitchell Hamm <mitch@palmtop.net>
                              Mitchell B. Hamm <hamm@one.net>
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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:24:48 -0400
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              "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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From:         "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Re: Synchronization w/pocket quicken on the LX
Comments: To: Eben Rubin <erubin@POL.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <37291B4C.7207@pol.net>; from Eben Rubin on Thu, Apr 29,
              1999 at 10:54:04PM -0400
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Quoting Eben Rubin (erubin@POL.NET):
> Does anyone have any experience with Intuit's "Pocken Quicken Connect"?

I use PQ Connect with Quicken 98 almost daily and it works flawlessly.
Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to find now.

At one time, I thought that Inuit would never let their software be developed
by other parties, but I see that company called Landware is doing a PQ for the
PalmPilot. Maybe there's hope for PQ Connect. ???
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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:36:54 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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From:         "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Boot sequence on LX
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.3.96.990429201346.23957A-100000@unix01> from "Sputnik"
              at Apr 29, 99 08:18:14 pm
Content-Type: text

> now that you asked that question i wonder if SYSTEM COMMANDER would work
> on the palmtop...

I don't know about SYSTEM COMMANDER, but I have VCOM's earlier product
BOOT COMMANDER running on my 200LX.  Works like a champ.  VCOM doesn't
sell or support it anymore, but turns out the folks at MIX Software
are still licensed to re-sell it.

-Chris Lott



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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 06:02:40 GMT
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From:         David Hart <hart@CATHOLIC.ORG>
Subject:      (none)

If you wanted another reason to hold off buying a new palmtop look
at this:

http://www.newscientist.com/cgi-
bin/pageserver.cgi?/ns/19990501/newsstory3.html

The first stable, shock-proof LCD which keeps its image even when
the power is turned off. This could be a great advancement for
PDAs. Although it doesn't help us HPLX users, it really means that
a whole generation of PDAs now in the market might be obsolete. It
also will probably mean an even more pronounced difference in
battery life between displays which require a backlight to see the
image properly than those that do not.

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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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From:         "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Spring Cleaning Sale! Update!
Comments: To: Alchemist <driden@STLNET.COM>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alchemist mailto:driden@STLNET.COM
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 4:28 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Spring Cleaning Sale! Update!
>
>
> All,
>
> Wow! Im amazed at the response I got to my spring cleaning
> sale message.  Im
> still
> in the process of sorting out everyones responses but thought
> I would send a
> quick
> update to the list of whats been sold, and where things stand
> right now.
> Ive been handling
> all responses in the order received, although there are quite a few
> responses for the remaining
> Omnibook that I still need to go thru.
>
> HP 95lx 512k - Unknown - Awaiting reply.

Well, actually, I was waiting on a reply from you.  I originally said I
would buy it, but since I did not hear from you, I found a HP100 for almost
the same price instead, so you are free to sell your HP95.  Sorry.

Jon C.





> HP 1000cx 2mb    - SOLD
> HP 1000cx 2mb    - SOLD
> HP Omnibook 300 - 20mb Flash Version - SOLD
>
> HP Omnibook 300 - 40mb HD Version.
> I have quite a list of responses on this one, I'll be
> emailing you in the
> order received tomorrow. (Fri)
>
> Compaq SLT/286  - SOLD
> Compaq 4/40cx, 20mb RAM, Docking station, Win95, battery,
> etc.  Available.
> Chaplet 486/25, 4mb RAM, 120mb HD, 1.44" floppy notebook. Available.
>
> If you are interested in any of the available units, let me know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
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              "rutherford b. martin" <onefourfive@HOTMAIL.COM>
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heres what is probably a dumb question--hey, im new here...

can you run linux on a beefed up LX?

kip


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              aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: Japanese DSP1402a file for HV
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT

I creadted the following and saved this as ds14to11.pat

f 010d 012c 00
e 02ff 5d
m 02f7 030b 02f4
e 0309 41 90 90
e 0407 18
e 041e 5d
e 0421 18
m 0416 042a 0413
e 0428 41 90 90
e 056e 0b
f 06bd 06e4 00
e 06bd 00 01 01 00 01
n dsp14a.com
w
q

In my config.sys file I have the line
device=c:\bin\fontman.exe -b5 -fc:\bin\fontman.ini -d

In my autoexec.bat I have the line
c:\bin\dsp14a -s11

I have a bin dir on my C drive that has the following files
dsp14a.com
fontbuf.exe
fontman.exe
fontman.ini

I also have a dir on my C drive called font which has the following files
akagi11a.fnt
agaki11k.fnt

I still can't display Japanese in HV.
Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
TIA
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 04-28 03:40pm CDT, the following was written:

> can you run linux on a beefed up LX?

Go to http://minix.hplx.net and download Minix.

Jeff


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              Ed Keefe <EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>>Turbo C++ 3.0 requires 286+ DOS3.31+ 640k 1MBextended and HD

When I was teaching C++, I tried, in vain, to make BC 3.01 (pretty much t=
he
same as TC 3.0) run on the LX.  BC 3.01 was closer to the C++ standards a=
t
the time. I gave it my best shot at hacking but discovered that there wer=
e
too many calls to extended memory to cope with.  It would be a major task=

and not worth the effort since the C++ standards have moved beyond BC 3.0=
1.
 On the C side, BC2.0 works just as well as BC 3.01, and it works well on=
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Subject:      Re: System Manager interference?
Comments: To: John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

I don't know what software you are using to support drive sharing from DOS,
however if you have Filer set-up for remote operation it might be the reason
for losing the serial port when the App Manager is running.  Also try
toggling the Serial Port power setting in the Setup utility.

</2bits>

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John J Vanderstel SMTP:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM
>
> Hi All,
>
> A rather strange thing has happened recently that has presented a minor
> inconvenience. Upon a ctrl-alt-del reboot into straight DOS, my HP200LX's
> drives are indeed accessible from my desktop through my network, but as
> soon as I run "200", my desktop loses access to those drives. I just get
> the "drive not ready" error.
>
> John Vander Stel
>

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From:         Gerhard Gonter <gonter@ZECHINE.WU-WIEN.AC.AT>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this?
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Jeff wrote:
> Oops :) I did leave out some important information. I need something that
> will automatically mail me the page at a certain time everyday. I know

That's a simple task if you are using Perl and a cron job, just a few
lines would do that:

#!/bin/env perl
use LWP::Simple;
$addr= shift (@ARGV) || die "usage: $0 <address> <url>+";
while (defined ($url= shift (@ARGV))) {
  next unless (defined ($doc= get ($url)));
  open (MAIL, "|/bin/mail -s '$url' '$addr'")||die;
  print MAIL $doc;
  close MAIL;
}

One of my cron jobs harvests the Palm Pilot edition of a local news
paper this way and stores it right into a GDB file which can then be
downloaded to the HP-LX for off-line reading.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:30:09 +0100
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              garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> But I think it would be more useful to program an
> interface between Post/LX and VR than to program
> an Post/LX-own vertical reader module.

No need for programming. Just add

VR=a:\vr\vr.exe $p.$x

to the EXTERNAL section of POST.CFG (adjust the path to VR.EXE). Then
select a box and choose VR from the menu.

Andreas

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:28:59 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: "Could not establish connection"

You might try setting the speed to 9600 baud in ccmail setup. When I connect
with a 14.4k that is the speed I need to connect at otherwise it gives
me the same error.

John


John J Vanderstel writes:
> Hi All,
>
> I believe that I followed all of the directions given on the Palmtop.com
> web site for establishing a free account, but after connecting to
> Palmtop.com with my HP200LX and Motorola 14.4 cellular PCMCIA modem at
> 14,400 baud, getting the message, "call answered at 14,400 baud" and
> waiting a while, I got the error message, "could not establish
> connection."
>
> Repeated tries produced the same results. I could hear the modem
> connecting, but after that, nothing would happen at all. I do have the
> "d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1" line in my autoexec.bat file.
>
> Palmtop.com users:  Does anyone have a clue as to what I might have done
> wrong?
>
> Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
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On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:45:40 -0400, you wrote:
>Date:    Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:10:17 +0200
>From:    Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
>Subject: Re: Fw: Cashflow spreadsheet
>>BTW, I haven't seen many spreadsheets on S.U.P.E.R., or any add-ins for
>>1-2-3. Anyone knows why? I mean, 1-2-3 is extremely powerful: you can =
build
>>so *really* snazzy stuff with it!
        I track all the Premier League results with a spreadsheet. The
first section has a home(vertical axis) and away (horizontal axis)
table that records all the results goal by goal. Subsequent sections
compute all the standard parameters (games played, won, drawn, lost,
goals for, goals against, goal difference, points) and some indices
that I found useful from time to time (goals per game, points dropped,
maximum points achievable if remaining games won, percentage points
picked up, percentage games won, etc etc etc).
        I only enter the scores (as in number of goals scored by each
team), not even the result since that can be computed just by
comparing the goals scored by each side. All else is automated.
        The  best part is the 123 graph, which has all the twenty teams on
the left axis, sorted by table position, with lines running across
from lower left to upper right showing current points, expected points
(based on form to date), and maximum points. This was the main reason
why I was so disappointed with Pocket Excel - no charts!

jasonyap

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:49:19 +0200
Reply-To:     a123456@bitstream.net
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: lx-linux?

rutherford b. martin writes:
> heres what is probably a dumb question--hey, im new here...
>
> can you run linux on a beefed up LX?

Not Linux--it requires a 486.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:59:51 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>
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On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:

> rutherford b. martin writes:
> > heres what is probably a dumb question--hey, im new here...
> >
> > can you run linux on a beefed up LX?
>
> Not Linux--it requires a 486.

386, actually.

(assuming you want to run the Intel x86 based version, that is)


Cheers,

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:07:01 -0400
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From:         "C.W. Bradley" <cwbrad@IBM.NET>
Subject:      FS 123 v.201 Full Version

Hello All,

I have the full version Lotus 123 v.201 with diskettes and all
documentation in hard case for sale for $15 obo + $5 shipping in US.

Reply to cwbrad@ibm.net


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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:49:49 -0600
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              Jan Allbright <wharfrat@PCISYS.NET>
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From:         Jan Allbright <wharfrat@PCISYS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Really dumb question on packet
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On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote:

> On 04-29 02:13pm CDT, the following was written:
>
> > the amateur radio spectrum. This limits connections to about 1200 baud for
> > VHF (2Meter). Connections in the higher frequencies allow for faster
> > speeds.
>
> Unless you live in Europe where 9600bps is all the rage <g>. Maybe one here
> in the States we can speed it up just a bit. 1200bps functional, but 9600bps
> would be much better!
>
> 73 Jeff W4JEF
>
>

True - true, but for higher speeds you really need to get into the higher
freqs. 9600 baud on 440Mhz is easy and there is hardware out there to go
higher. Once you get into the Gigs then 56K becomes do-able.

Hey - how 'bout amateur laser running OC192?????


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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:04:36 +0000
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              Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
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From:         Bennett Todd <bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET>
Subject:      using CVS to track backups
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Well, things just got _way_ simpler in my life, now that I'm settling in to a
laptop as my main system:-). In particular, Red Hat 5.2 is really happy on my
Sony Vaio PCG-505TX, to and including handling my Sandisk 85MB FLASH card in
the PCMCIA slot, joy!

So my backup script has simplified to:

        #!/bin/sh

        progname=`basename $0`
        die(){ echo "$progname: $*">&2; exit 1; }

        r=$HOME/hp
        me=$LOGNAME
        d=`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`

        mkdir -p $r/a
        cd $r/a || die "cannot chdir $r/a"

        export CVSROOT=$r/cvs
        mkdir -p $CVSROOT
        test -d $CVSROOT/CVSROOT || cvs init || die "cannot init cvs"

        test -d /ide/bin || die "cannot find /ide/bin"
        rsync -vaz --delete /ide/. .
        cardctl eject
        cvs -q import -m "Backup of $me HP @ $d" -kb a $me a_$d 2>&1 | \
                grep -v 'UI '

After many happy years with lxtools, it's goodbye; PCMCIA slot compatibility
scales a lot better to today's memory sizes.

BTW, for non-cvs-ites, that last line is the joyful magic: just point it at
the mirror directory, which is very efficiently updated by the rsync command
(including tracking deletions), and CVS updates its copy efficiently, using
diffs (that work correctly for binary files --- that' the "-kb"), so the cvs
archive only grows by the size of the changes, yet you can reach back in time
to any previous view of the data.

-Bennett

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:00:39 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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On 04-30 10:49am CDT, the following was written:

> Hey - how 'bout amateur laser running OC192?????

Better yet, how about just more amateur microwave repeaters instead of slow
1200bps AX.25 digipeaters!

Jeff W4JEF


    *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------*
    |jeffj@scott.net  w4jef@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain     |
    |  Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27  | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA     |
    *------------------------------------------------------------------*

Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.05beta) REGISTERED

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:15:41 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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From:         Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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> How many listmembers are using PGP on their LX's?

Me!  In conjunction w/ WWW/LX...
Here's my key...

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: 2.6.2
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3D=3D
=3DWQrd
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:19:55 -0300
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
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From:         "Araujo, Isaque G." <Isaque.Araujo@ALCOA.COM.BR>
Subject:      Re: lx-linux?
Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad <di980769@DIKU.DK>

Well, currently I'm trying to run ELKS (a port of Linux to 8086 processor)
and I now that other people is trying too. So as soon as possible we'll have
a Linux running on a HP.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laust Brock-Nannestad SMTP:di980769@DIKU.DK
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 12:00 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: lx-linux?
>
> On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote:
>
> > rutherford b. martin writes:
> > > heres what is probably a dumb question--hey, im new here...
> > >
> > > can you run linux on a beefed up LX?
> >
> > Not Linux--it requires a 486.
>
> 386, actually.
>
> (assuming you want to run the Intel x86 based version, that is)
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laust
>
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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:48:40 -0400
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You need to put tblx.dat in c:\_dat.

HTH
Ed

David Eggins wrote:
><snip>
>The toolbar appears, but the omly submenu which works is documents.
><snip>

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:25:04 -0500
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              "LEWIS, KENNETH D" <kdlewis@OPPD.COM>
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From:         "LEWIS, KENNETH D" <kdlewis@OPPD.COM>
Subject:      Re: Synchronization w/pocket quicken on the LX
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

FYI...

On the Go Software makes a WinCE version of Pocket Quicken shipping with the
new HP 680.

Ken

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) SMTP:mitch@PALMTOP.NET
>
        >> At one time, I thought that Inuit would never let their software
be developed
        >> by other parties, but I see that company called Landware is doing
a PQ for the
        >> PalmPilot. Maybe there's hope for PQ Connect. ???

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:26:31 -0400
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              jguenthe <jguenthe@NAFIS.FP.TRW.COM>
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From:         jguenthe <jguenthe@NAFIS.FP.TRW.COM>
Subject:      Re: Outlook Contacts <=> HPLX - new version goes both ways
Comments: To: Curtis Cameron <curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET>
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Hi Curtis,

Outstanding, and it works to!!!!  Now if you can tackle the calendar, you
will have a fantastic tool for syncing the 200lx to Outlook.  For those who
have not tried this, IMHO this is better than the Intellisync tools for the
older calendar / schedule products.  It works great, is fast and simple to
use.  I really like the mapping choices built in to the product.  I have
been able to use the resulting PDB files in both cpack200 and on the 200lx
with NO problems at all.  Thanks Curtis, please do the calendar and todo
lists next.

John Guenther
'Ye Olde Pen Maker'

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From:   Curtis CameronSMTP:curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET
Sent:   Friday, April 30, 1999 1:25 AM
Subject:        Outlook Contacts <=> HPLX - new version goes both ways

Hi all,

I've modified the Outlook contacts to HPLX converter so that it now
converts in either direction. You can get it at
http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html.

--
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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:33:17 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: "Could not establish connection"
Comments: To: John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

If I recall, one needed very special modem files to use the cc:mail.
But I don't really recall much and never, except accidently, fired up
cc:mail.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:59:04 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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From:         Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Japanese DSP1402a file for HV
Comments: To: aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU>
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On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:43:50 -0400, aguze118 <aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU> =
wrote:

> I creadted the following and saved this as ds14to11.pat
>
> f 010d 012c 00
> e 02ff 5d
> m 02f7 030b 02f4
> e 0309 41 90 90
> e 0407 18
> e 041e 5d
> e 0421 18
> m 0416 042a 0413
> e 0428 41 90 90
> e 056e 0b
> f 06bd 06e4 00
> e 06bd 00 01 01 00 01
> n dsp14a.com
> w
> q


Hi Tony Guzewicz

Did you place ds14t011.pat and dsp14.com in the same directory and run:

debug dsp14.com < ds14to11.pat


Just a thought.
HTH

Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
hp 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:14:02 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      WWW/LX and the (Smart) ApexData v.34 Modem
Comments: To: "support@dasoft.com" <support@dasoft.com>

Hi all,Avi,

Getting a strange error message tyring to use WWW/LX w/ my new Apex Data
modem (part of Smart Technologies, acc. to the label) when all the parts
get here, I hope to use it w/ my cell phone... for now, I'm just trying
land-line access.

The CompuServe Script doesn't like the modem I left my notes outside; so
this'll only be close. It dials out, tries to connect, then waits for a bit
and hits me w/ an error, before hanging up.  It was something like: "Timeout
while waiting for D:". I do remember poking into the .CFG files and finding
"D:" "W=15 D:" (in the www.cgf file) to be exact.

I guessed this was a "wait" time and that the 15 = seconds; then tinkered w/
that number. Tried from 5 to 35 and couldn't get past the error.

The modem "returned" that it was getting 28.8; so I put 28800 in that
portion of the speed section in the setup, tried other values too.....

I'm using AT&F1 as my init. string loading the first of the factory generic
default settingsand think I've tried ATF as well which was in there
automatically, I think and can't get it to work.

All works fine w/ ATF as the init. string and the Creative Labs "Modem
Blaster" 'cept it's 14.4.

Not sure what else to share here. This may be too specific a problem for the
list and I'll accept any suggestions/help offline....

Modem specifics are: Model # 011-20641, v.34 Cellular "Mobile Plus
Cellular" Data/FAX modem 33.6/14.4kbps w/ "TX-CEL Throughput-x-cellerator".

TIA for any help,

tim


CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-7608

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:04:11 EDT
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In a message dated 4/29/1999 02:30:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM writes:

>
>  BTW, I haven't seen many spreadsheets on S.U.P.E.R., or any add-ins for
>  1-2-3. Anyone knows why? I mean, 1-2-3 is extremely powerful: you can build
>  so *really* snazzy stuff with it!
>

Have you tried,

Lotus in the Lab (58 K) added 12/20/98
Version 1 by Glenn Ouchi

Courtesy of The HP Palmtop Paper
Lotus in the Lab is a set of Templates and Macros for Lotus applications in
the laboratory. Freeware.

On the Super site?  The 3D graphs on one or two of the sheets really impress.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX and the (Smart) ApexData v.34 Modem

> The CompuServe Script doesn't like the modem I left my notes outside; so
> this'll only be close. It dials out, tries to connect, then waits for a bit
> and hits me w/ an error, before hanging up.  It was something like: "Timeout
> while waiting for D:". I do remember poking into the .CFG files and finding
> "D:" "W=15 D:" (in the www.cgf file) to be exact.

Just a guess. Why not try changing the D: to C:

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 > send a mail to w3mail@gmd.de with nothing but the text "help" and you =
will
 > get a description about how you can receive web pages by email.
 >
 > Quick reference:
 >
 > send the text:
 >
 > get http://www.yahoo.com
 >
 > to the above mentioned mail adress, and you will get the page as an
 > attachment.
 >
 > -goe-

Check comp.answers for a faq called something like
"Accessing the Internet via Email" by Bob Rankin for
similar services.


Kat
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Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:45:46 +0100 (BST)

29m51s ago ...
On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:15:55 -0700 (CST), Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:

> All works fine w/ ATF as the init. string and the Creative Labs "Modem
> Blaster" 'cept it's 14.4.

Then try the same Baud setting with the Apex as you have with the
Creative Labs modem.

Regards, Tony

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I agree with every word you wrote, Phil.

For two years I've been "trying" to get rid of my HP200. I've tried Palm =
Pilot Pro & Psion Series 5. I'm still looking at Jornadas 420 & 680. None =
has all the good qualities of the 200.

When I discovered this mailing list about 2 months ago. I was astonished =
how many people felt the same way. It would be fantastic for a replacement=
 (hardware? software?) to come along, maybe even home grown among the =
list members. Unfortunately, I don't think it will happen.

I guess within a couple of years a WinCE machine (Jornada?) will arrive =
with the same o/s stability, dimensions, keyboard(?), quality and battery =
life (double-A's please) as the 200. A DOS emulator will then let us run =
all our favourite stuff; a bit like your second wife looking like your =
first! Then the 200 can take a well earned rest. Can we all still meet =
here and chat though?



Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM> wrote:
> My remarks are laced in below...

<snipped>
<Lots of discussion on future of HP200>
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Sure did. What i've tried as my test is to open HV and try and see if one of
the japanese files in the subdir (helpj.htm or homej.htm) can be read offline
and I coulldn't read them. Just got the code. however, when I went into filer
I had some Japanese texts and was able to view them. Hmmm.
Tony

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:13:56 -0700
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My Megahertz XJ14400 (or something like that) got that error message, and my
EXP ThinFax 1414LXM didn't.
The people at Palmtop.Com don't know why. All they could suggest is a few
initialization strings, to no avail. Strangely enough, connecting with
Datacomm works with both modems.

Go figure...

Philippe ;-)

----- Original Message -----
From: John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 4:31 AM
Subject: "Could not establish connection"


> Hi All,
>
> I believe that I followed all of the directions given on the Palmtop.com
> web site for establishing a free account, but after connecting to
> Palmtop.com with my HP200LX and Motorola 14.4 cellular PCMCIA modem at
> 14,400 baud, getting the message, "call answered at 14,400 baud" and
> waiting a while, I got the error message, "could not establish
> connection."
>
> Repeated tries produced the same results. I could hear the modem
> connecting, but after that, nothing would happen at all. I do have the
> "d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1" line in my autoexec.bat file.
>
> Palmtop.com users:  Does anyone have a clue as to what I might have done
> wrong?
>
> Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO 654-5866
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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:18:42 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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> I was trying to use SDTSR.COM to automate the password logging process. The
> tsr is supposed to wait for access to the drive and then automatically ask
> for the passphrase. However, it seems to hang the lx after the passphrase
> has been entered.

There is a warning about using SDTSR with Multitaskers in
section 2.8 of the doc.  I know that SC is really a task
switcher but maybe the warning still applies.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:20:54 -0500
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              Dan Ridenhour <driden@STLNET.COM>
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All,

Well, I think ive finally caught up on everything except the HD omnibook
which im
maintaining a list of those interested and will email you as I hear from
those ahead of
you. Heres is a brief rundown of which machines have sold etc.  If you
are interested in any of the items below (that are available) let me know.

HP 95lx 512k       $70   (Available)
HP1000cx 2mb   SOLD!
HP1000cx 2mb   SOLD!
HP Omnibook 300 (20mb Flash)   SOLD!
HP Omnibook 300 (40mb HD)       $150    (Pending, awaiting reply)
Compaq SLT/286    SOLD!
Compaq LTE Elite 4/40cx, 20mb RAM, TFT screen, Docking Station   $350
(Available)
Chaplet 486/25 4mb RAM, 120mb HD, 1 pcmcia card slot   $150   (Available)
28.8 XJack Cellular ready modems   $25   (Available)

I also have a couple new items (things keep coming out of the woodwork <g>).

Newton Messagepad 100    $90 + Shipping
Newton OS 1.3
640k RAM
1 PCMCIA card slot.
2400b Newton Modem
PC Connection Cable
Newton Enhancement Pack Disk (Grafitti, Forms, etc), Pocket Quicken,
TapWorks, and other software.

Any I have 2 desktops that I need to part with if anyone is interested in
them:

Packard Bell 486/25, 6mb RAM, 100mb HD, keyboard Good Condition.
$100+Shipping
Ultracomp 386/33, 8mb RAM, 40mb HD, network card, Pro designer II VGA card.
$80+Shipping.
I have some extra VGA monitors as well.  640x480 VGA Color Monitors
$35+shipping.

Please send inquiries to driden@stlnet.com.

Thanks,

Dan
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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:34:41 -0400
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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      WWW/LX Problems & Questions
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<chris@amlog.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Why might someone set up
> multiple mail boxes? Is there any use for them if you have only one ISP?

I can't think of a reason to have multiple instances of an
inbox from a single ISP.  Well, I just thought of one.
Perhaps you want to have one case of the inbox with a very
tight restriction on the size of messages that are allowed to
be downloads.  And have a second inbox for the same ISP that
has a much higher (or no) message size limit.  Then you could
use one mailbox for quick online runs with no large messages
allowed and the othe rmainbox could be for getting everything
else.  Not too practical, but a reason.

If someone wanted to seperate incoming mail into categories
based on some creteria in the message header, then that is
what Filters are for.

Do you have a possible reason for having multiple inboxes fro
the same ISP?


Stan

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From:         Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
Subject:      Re: SCSI/Audio Card was: sound ??
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Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU> wrote:

> I have a Noteworthy SCSI/Audio card Model NWCOMB02 from Toshiba

I strongly doubt that card will work in the palmtop.  First of
all, the power consumption is probably too high.  Most just
SCSI cards draw too much power.  The "low power consumption"
claim by the maker is probably relative to what a notebook can
supply, not the little palmtop.

The the other just as important factor is the drivers.  The
PCMCIA controller in the palmtop is not one of the standard
ones found in notebooks and the palmtop's ROM does not have
drivers for SCSI or audio or any of those other card services
that notebooks have.  The palmtop's ROM drivers support ATA
flash cards, SRAM cards, and modems - that's it.

This is why the EXP combo modem/flash card needs it's own
driver and why there is only one or two network cards that
work in the palmtop.  Most NIC's use too much power and all
but two have Windows drivers.


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Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU> wrote:

> I have recently read of the bootup sequence on "normal" PC's and was
> wondering why we are stuck with DOS5.0 on the LX?

What's wrong with DOS 5?  What features are you looking for in
a different version of DOS?

> If the system will recognise Autoexec and Config.sys on a flash card why not
> another DOS as well?

DOS is booted from ROM on the palmtop.  It only looks for the
CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files because those are user
configurable.  It does not look for an MSDOS.SYS, etc.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Stanley Dobrowski <stanleyd@CARROLL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 5:36 PM
Subject: WWW/LX Problems & Questions


><chris@amlog.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Why might someone set up
>> multiple mail boxes? Is there any use for them if you have only one ISP?
>
Many ISP's offer multiple email accounts now, so they can lure away AOL
and Prodigy customers.  Prodigy for example gives users 5 email accounts so
everyone in the family can use the same ISP but have their own email
accounts.

Dan
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              jebuford@MAIL.HAC.COM
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From:         Joseph E Buford <jebuford@MAIL.HAC.COM>
Subject:      Lx built in ccMail
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Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

     I have a question about using the CCMail built into the Lx.

     Background:

     I subscribe to several listserv's, including this one and one on
     electric vehicles, both as digest.

     I save the text attachment in the Email I rx from the HPLX-L listserv
     as a .txt file onto my 200lx using the connectivity pack for reading
     at my leisure(what leisure?).

     The problem is that:
        a: most of the time I don't even rx a digest from the EV listserv,
           and:

        b: When I rx a digest, it has 30-50 attachments, each one a message
           to that list.

     I've Emailed the person who runs the list ad he says that it must be
     something in the way my server here at work receives the msg. and that
     there is no prob with the listserver.

     Question:

     1) Is there any way to transfer a ccMail msg from my email computer to
        the 200lx? and to view the message with all the attachments using
        the Built in ccMail?

     2) Is there any settings that I can change in Lotus ccMail v6 to get
        the attachments into 1 file to read as a text file, or

     3) Anything I can reference to the EV listserv that will allow them to
          send all of the digest as 1 attachment?

     All help appreciated

     Joe

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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi Chris

What does BOOT Commander do and what advantages?

TIA

Russell

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Subject:      Re: "Could not establish connection"
Comments: cc: fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM, j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM

Message-Id: <19990430233735.GBWB7187@12.72.154.232>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 23:37:35 +0000

FWIW, I think I had the same problem with ccMail also. Worked fine without
any tweaking on my XJ1144 modem but got that error msg using the XJ3144
modem (a preferred modem cuz it's lower power).

I looked up the modem reference and found some things to add to the init
string and so made a file called c:\_dat\xj3144.mdm that's based on the
built-in d:\_dat\hayes.mdm.  I forget what the added settings were for, but
it amounted to just one added line.  Here's an FC compare of the two files:

Comparing files HAYES.MDM and C:\_DAT\XJ3144.MDM
***** HAYES.MDM
HANGUP=ATH0
SETUP=ATS0=0Q0X4
***** C:\_DAT\XJ3144.MDM
HANGUP=ATH0
SETUP=AT&F&C1&D2&S1&MWS95=0
SETUP=ATS0=0Q0X4
*****

I believe the order of the SETUP statements lets me override the original
without deleting it... tho I probably should've done so to be neat.

You have to use Connect/Settings/ModemFile in ccMail to point to the new
inits. Good luck.

- Longden

   >My Megahertz XJ14400 (or something like that) got that error
   >message, and my EXP ThinFax 1414LXM didn't.
   >The people at Palmtop.Com don't know why. All they could suggest is
   >a few initialization strings, to no avail. Strangely enough,
   >connecting with Datacomm works with both modems.
   >Go figure...

   >> I believe that I followed all of the directions given on the
   >>Palmtop.com  web site for establishing a free account, but after
   >>connecting to  Palmtop.com with my HP200LX and Motorola 14.4
   >>cellular PCMCIA modem at  14,400 baud, getting the message, "call
   >>answered at 14,400 baud" and  waiting a while, I got the error
   >>message, "could not establish  connection."
   >> Repeated tries produced the same results. I could hear the modem
   >> connecting, but after that, nothing would happen at all. I do
   >>have the  "d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1" line in my autoexec.bat file.
   >> Palmtop.com users:  Does anyone have a clue as to what I might
   >>have done  wrong?

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From:         David Ball <dmb10@SWBELL.NET>
Subject:      95LX Serial Cable compatible with the 200LX
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Is the 95LX Serial Cable compatible with the 200LX?

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:58:12 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: "Could not establish connection"

Pertaining to the Palmtop.com free email service:

On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:33:17 +0000 <fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>If I recall, one needed very special modem files to use the cc:mail.
>But I don't really recall much and never, except accidently, fired up
>cc:mail.

  Thanks for sharing that memory. That has helped me to focus in on what
I need now. By any chance, do you have any idea where I might find a
source for a list of modems with their best init strings for connecting
to Palmtop.com? If you don't remember a specific source for that info, I
hope that someone else on the list will know. I remember seeing nothing
on the palmtop.com site that related in any way to that kind of
information.

  BTW, I'm using the Motorola 14.4 PCMCIA Cellular modem that was
designed for use with MC2 flip phones manufactured after 6/92. I can find
no model numbers on the modem card, at all.

  I did get an general information card in the box with this used modem
that suggested using the init string of AT\Q3 for Prodigy and said to
choose the UDS FasTalk 32x modem from the pick list in the AOL software
of that time. I doubt if either online service in that day, used today's
standard protocols, but I'll take a look at the HP200LX's modem config
file again. If there is a field for an init string in it, I'll go ahead
and try it, just to see what happens.

  Oh... The card also listed the UDS FasTalk 32/42b, UDS FasTalk 32x, and
the UDS FAsTalk 32 bx as being compatible.

--- quote from a note from Bill ---
>I am a happy user of palmtop.com.  As I recall I had similar
>problems which others helped with - I needed to change the
>modem init string in my hayes.mdm file - the current one
>which works well for me is:
>
>AT&F&C1&D2&S1&MWS95=0
>
>I can try to dig up more if that doesn't work
>
>--Bill

  I'll try the above init string and see what happens. In the meantime,
if you happen to have access to Palmtop.com recommended init strings for
particular modems, please use the above description of my modem to look
up the recommended init string for it, or just simply pass me the URL
where I can find the list so I can look it up myself..

  By the way, are you connecting at 14.4 or 28.8? If so, how did you set
the baud rate
in the CC:Mail setup screen?

--- quote from a note from John ---
>You might try setting the speed to 9600 baud in ccmail setup. When I
connect
>with a 14.4k that is the speed I need to connect at otherwise it gives
>me the same error.
>
>John

  Thanks for the tip. I'll go ahead and see if that setting will allow a
connection. If it works, it would be a good temporary workaround, but I'd
still hate to be permanently limited to a 9600 baud maximum speed and
have to use so much more long distance connection time.

  Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: 95LX Serial Cable compatible with the 200LX
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> Is the 95LX Serial Cable compatible with the 200LX?


The ORIGINAL 95 cable was not compatible as it only had four connectors.
When HP created the 10 pin 100/200 cable, it came with a 10-4 adapter.
So, if someone has that NEWER cable, it would be compatible by using the
adapter.

Also, just for reference.  The 95's ac adapter canNOT be used with the
100/200.  Altho, the 100/200 could be used with the 95, as I recall.

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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX and the (Smart) ApexData v.34 Modem
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> > The CompuServe Script doesn't like the modem I left my notes outside; so
> > this'll only be close. It dials out, tries to connect, then waits for a bit
> > and hits me w/ an error, before hanging up.  It was something like: "Timeout
> > while waiting for D:". I do remember poking into the .CFG files and finding
> > "D:" "W=15 D:" (in the www.cgf file) to be exact.
>
> Just a guess. Why not try changing the D: to C:


My guess is "D:" is part of "passworD:"  and not a drive reference.
There should not be anything in the script that is drive sensitive.

The script is W(aiting) for a "D:" from cis.

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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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>When HP created the 10 pin 100/200 cable, it came with a 10-4 adapter.
>So, if someone has that NEWER cable, it would be compatible by using the
>adapter.

I have one of these 10>4 adapter things with no 95lx so if someone could use
it I am happy to send it.

Please email privately. First in gets it. Freeby.

Russell

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:25:02 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: "Could not establish connection"

> >John
>
>   Thanks for the tip. I'll go ahead and see if that setting will allow a
> connection. If it works, it would be a good temporary workaround, but I'd
> still hate to be permanently limited to a 9600 baud maximum speed and
> have to use so much more long distance connection time.

Why your welcome<g>. Annoying people used to send me 500k and 1 meg
attachments yet my download times still averaged about 1 to 2 minutes.
Even at 9.6k it is fast. I never bothered with the string just used
&FS8=6. I found with a 33.6k I could go as fast
as fast as I wanted absolutely no problems connecting.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:36:29 +0200
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX and the (Smart) ApexData v.34 Modem

F. Kaufman writes:
> > > The CompuServe Script doesn't like the modem I left my notes outside; so
> > > this'll only be close. It dials out, tries to connect, then waits for a bit
> > > and hits me w/ an error, before hanging up.  It was something like: "Timeout
> > > while waiting for D:". I do remember poking into the .CFG files and finding
> > > "D:" "W=15 D:" (in the www.cgf file) to be exact.
> >
> > Just a guess. Why not try changing the D: to C:
>
>
> My guess is "D:" is part of "passworD:"  and not a drive reference.
> There should not be anything in the script that is drive sensitive.
>
> The script is W(aiting) for a "D:" from cis.

Sorry about that. It's not the password though its the User for some
reason. The password is word: in my script. I have the same D: but
it worked fine the last time I logged in. Maybe they changed it.

John

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:37:38 -0500
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From:         David L Sprinkle <dsprinkl@INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Dayton Hamfest
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Hello:

        Has there been very much HP200 stuff at previous Dayton Hamfests?
If so is there a particular area where the stuff is located, flea market,
etc? Are there many list members attending this year?

Thanks

Dave



Dave Sprinkle - dsprinkl@indiana.edu
Indiana University Physics Dept.
Swain West Rm. 117
Bloomington, IN 47405 (812) 855-0347

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Date:         Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:45:17 -0700
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Subject:      Various DOS programs at the Cyberexchange in Beaverton Oregon USA
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I was at the Cyberexchange in Beaverton Oregon USA
earier today.  I saw
1-2-3 r2.4 for $15.99
Micrografx Designer for DOS ,  $14.95
American Heritage Electronic Dictionary DOS $10.99

Their web address is www.exchangehq.com

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