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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1998 21:39:28 -0700
Reply-To:     "Tim S." <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
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From:         "Tim S." <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
Subject:      www/lx setup help

I'm trying to setup the newgroup part of WWW/lx.  My server requires
authentication.

In the individual group settings I put in the server name, login, and
password.

The response is no permission, or Authentication error.

Any ideas.

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments)
http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard

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Date:         Sat, 1 Aug 1998 13:08:35 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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Newbie HP200LX owner here
(so excuse lots of dumb ass questions over next
few weeks <grin>)

1. Just bought a second hand 200LX clock doubled
    6Mb model.   What is the best way to check that it
    is clock doubled (Run MSD?).  Also the previous
    owner said that it has a little bat setup file it requires
    because of the 2 x modification which I gather
    displaces the screen a couple of pixels to one side
    What is the history behind this.

2. I using Tranfile for PC to HP transfers.  Is this the
    best program for backing up the data files from the
   built in applications Phone book  / appointments etc
   and if so what are these files called.

I am working my way through the manual, but sometimes
be told goes in better 8-)  so no RTFM statements

Best regards from a cool Western Australia

Liam

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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1998 23:36:03 -0600
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              jgetz <jgetz@WCENET.COM>
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Where was this available recently, I seem to have deleted the message

Thanks

Jim

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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1998 23:00:06 -0700
Reply-To:     "Tim S." <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
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From:         "Tim S." <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
Subject:      WWW/LX and MAXDOS

Well, I'm still trying to setup WWW/LX to work the way I want.

I set it up to run under system manager and to use memo to compose the
messages.  Which works great, but I have to keep the memory designated to
post/lx to around 375 to do that.  If I keep it that low, the external and
news/lx programs don't run.

So I installed MAXDOS for the first time.  Its works quite nice and gives
lots of ram, but when in a MAXDOS session, I cannot access the built in
apps.  This of course means, when I try and compose email,  the software
beeps and can't bring up the memo application.

Any suggestions?

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments)
http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard

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Date:         Sat, 1 Aug 1998 02:09:04 -0500
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX and MAXDOS
Comments: To: "Tim S." <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
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On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Tim S. wrote:

> So I installed MAXDOS for the first time.  Its works quite nice and gives
> lots of ram, but when in a MAXDOS session, I cannot access the built in
> apps.  This of course means, when I try and compose email,  the software
> beeps and can't bring up the memo application.

Well.... I'm a die hard Goin' Postal person, but I feel your pain about
not being able to call the built-in apps. If you need to call an editor
why not use PE? It's a great text editor that has the look and feel of
Memo, but it's a much more powerful program and best of all D&A provides
it to the palmtop community as freeware :)

73 Jeff KF4KGQ

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Date:         Sat, 1 Aug 1998 09:44:15 +0200
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From:         Hermann Kellinghaus <Herm.Kellinghaus@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX and MAXDOS
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Hi Tim,

Tim S. wrote:
>
> Well, I'm still trying to setup WWW/LX to work the way I want.
>
> I set it up to run under system manager and to use memo to compose the
> messages.  Which works great, but I have to keep the memory designated to
> post/lx to around 375 to do that.  If I keep it that low, the external and
> news/lx programs don't run.
>
When I startet using WWW/LX Mai/June 98, I mailed the following passages
to Avi:

** I like to run WWW/LX under Syst-Mgr to be able to cut and paste from
the Sys-Mgr applications like Notes, Phonebook,...
 into my msg compositions using POST/LX **

Please optimize also for this environment!

Till now I can start *one* Sys-Mgr application in parallel to POST/LX,
if I do the following:
 - close all appl with 'moreexm', which also closes filer
 - use Appl-Mgr (shows 472K free) to start 'POST/LX' (using 375K)
 - call Appl-Mgr (&...) and close it (ESC)  !!!!important!!!!
 - call one Sys-Mgr appl ... close it, call another one ..

This gives also room enough to call POST-setup, pick and MEMO during a
POST session (using 10KB cut/paste buffer).

As far as I know, MaxDOS does not allow to switch to Sys-Mgr
applications to cut and paste while POST/LX is running.

Later discussions with Avi gave me hints, that the developers of WWW/LX
will not (be able to?) take care for this environment - but
 as PE (Pal-Edit) itself needs at least 180K in the pure DOS
environment, I'm confident that WWW/LX can be used under Sys-Mgr later
on.

Anyhow, I would like that many WWW/LX users ask Avi to take care about
running  WWW/LX under Sys-Mgr with Memo as preferred editor, ... (see
above).

Best Regards
  Hermann

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Date:         Sat, 1 Aug 1998 10:16:45 +0200
Reply-To:     Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de
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From:         Hermann Kellinghaus <Herm.Kellinghaus@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Re: the time machine exists!!
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Hello all,

Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:
>
> >in this mailing list I'm reading replies to future messages.
> >
> >Can somebody explain this to me? ;-)
>
> Sounds like we have not been careful enough to keep this fact hidden.
> Send me $5000 on an open postcard and I will enroll you in the time
> travellers club.
>
> On a more serious note:
>
> Seen from the UK: the San Francisco residents are 8 hours behind.
> The Japanese are 9 hours ahead. And you are one hour ahead.
>
I'm simple minded and I think that,
 when everybody sets time and time-zone correct, then
 my inbox would show the messages correctly when ordered by Date.
 (using f.ex. Netscape Communicator's mail client)

Now I get answers before the question is known!

Maybe it's not that simple.   =:-)

Best Regards
  Hermann

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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1998 22:12:25 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      64meg palmtop

Hi Danny;
I see you wanna unload some dough huh?
Like everyone keeps telling me, It's closer
to a grand.  I wuz thinking of myself.
It's $500 bucks with a 32MB.  $1000 from scratch.

Send yor lotto winnings to the guys at
the Palmtop Paper.  Thaddeus guys.

Hey, yu one of dem guys that won that big lotto?

all de best,
Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Sat, 1 Aug 1998 06:46:16 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX Users
In-Reply-To:  <000c01bdbcf2$17ad9000$6a9ec28e@dvesti> from "Mikhail Epelbaum"
              at Jul 31, 98 10:13:25 pm
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Mikhail:

I'm gonna jump in here w/my $0.02 worth...

> Gary - I wonder if you could advise me. I am trying to set up the demo
> version of WWWLX, with a view to registering. However, when I called my ISP
> tech support about their script, all they could say was: "SCRIPT? Windows 95
> does not require any scripts, and you cannot connect in DOS..."

Au contraire... First of all, up until a few months ago, I have been using
scripts for my Windows 95 machine for a couple of years - at least since
Windoew 95 came out.  It was less than obvious how it is done, but my ISP
had figured it all out and provided the instructions in a nice pamphlet.
But we're now using an automated authentication protocol (one that still
can revert to a  manual connections with a terminal/modem, however),
that doesn't require scripts.  WWW/LX supports this - I just looked at
my setup and I am specifying CHAP_Script.  Check with your ISP and find
out what technique is used to login.

-Chris

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Huntsville, Alabama
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Date:         Sat, 1 Aug 1998 06:59:00 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Speed Doubled & the Display
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I remember a comment here recently about the display on a x2 machine
just prior to the speed driver getting loaded.  It was said that the
screen was shifted slightly, maybe a little messed up, but still
legible.  This rang true on my first x2 machine (it had a 5/6 MB upgrade).
But on my current x2 machine (w/32MB upgrade) the screen pre-driver
load is *completely* unreadable!  What causes this difference?  Is
it the 32M upgrade?  Screen-to-screen variations?

-Chris

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Date:         Sat, 1 Aug 1998 06:52:59 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX Users
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.3.96.980731203058.922A-100000@ipair.com> from "David
              Sargeant" at Jul 31, 98 08:32:20 pm
Content-Type: text

> > Gary - I wonder if you could advise me. I am trying to set up the demo
> > version of WWWLX, with a view to registering. However, when I called my ISP
> > tech support about their script, all they could say was: "SCRIPT? Windows 95
> > does not require any scripts, and you cannot connect in DOS..."
> > How does one figure out the proper script for WWW-LX dialer?
>
> I would probably try dialing up your ISP with a terminal program (i.e.
> Datacomm on the 200LX, or HyperTerminal in Win95, or any of the ilk) and
> see what happens.  If you're lucky, it will be a simple login: and
> password: prompt which then drops to PPP.
>
This may work, but in the case of my ISP, it wouldn't take full advantage
of the automated (read faster) authentication/login process.  Our terminal
servers, if they detect a Carriage Return instead of the extected automated
(CHAP?) character sequences, will revert to the older manual prompts (this
permits one to connect with a terminal/modem or using a terminal emulator
like you suggested).  That's why a suggest he call once more and ask
what login/authentication technique is employed at his ISP.

-Chris

p.s.  I taught a introductory class in UNIX last year - you should have
seen everyone's surprise when I brought in a terminal and modem, and
showed them how they could browse the internet - email, news, www, etc.,
all for less than a $50 investment!

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Date:         Sat, 1 Aug 1998 08:15:32 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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In-Reply-To:  "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> "Speed Doubled & the
              Display" (Aug  1,  6:59am)
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> But on my current x2 machine (w/32MB upgrade) the screen pre-driver
> load is *completely* unreadable!  What causes this difference?  Is
> it the 32M upgrade?  Screen-to-screen variations?

Must be a mechine-specific thing as my 32MB is easily readable before the
driver goes in.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Sat, 1 Aug 1998 09:23:46 -0400
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              Steve Meisner <steve@MEISNER.MV.COM>
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http://www.necx.com

then go to the surplus area...it's in there!


Steve

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Subject:        $10 card reader

Where was this available recently, I seem to have deleted the message

Thanks

Jim

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Date:         Sat, 1 Aug 1998 10:58:38 -0300
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Organization: ECOLOGICA
Subject:      Re: Is the 200LX sensitive to high ambient temperatures.
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On 30 Jul 98 at 9:41, Santosh Zachariah wrote:

> I plan to use a HP200LX in the field in India.
>
> Daytime highs throughout the year are about
> 33C/92F, running to 45C/113F at the peak
> of summer.
>
> Does anyone have any experience using a
> 200LX at these temperatures?

I live in Salvador Brasil parelel 14 S and temparature renge from
25-32C and peak of 35-40 C. I've got no problems with temperature.
I is safe keep the HPLX away from direct sun exposure for long time
or inside de car when parking. This has happen to me with an HP42S.
The temperature inside the car reach 55-60C and the calculator
LCD screen turn dark. After temperature normalization the screen
recover the contrast and the calculator is OK.
ݨs


Eduardo Cesana

ECOLOGICA Tecnologia & Controle Ambiental Ltda
Tel +55 (0)71 375-3311  Fax +55 (0)71 375-1141
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Subject:      want to swap?

Having some memory problems with my stink normal 100LX after my pocket modem
stopped functioning and I have to work with my Thinfax 14.400 card modem I
wondered if there is somebody with a combination card who would be
interested to swap cards. I would give a functioning Megahertz modem card
with it which is at the moment only missing the telephone cord. Anybody
interested, give me an email and we could fix swap details.
Details of the modem cards;
EXP Thinfax 1414cl fax/data PCMCIA card with telephone cord
Megahertz data/fax modem 14.400 bps model# CC3144 without the telephone
cord.
IneedsignificantlymoreroominthislineforwhatIwanttosayhere

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On Sat, 1 Aug 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> I remember a comment here recently about the display on a x2 machine
> just prior to the speed driver getting loaded.  It was said that the
> screen was shifted slightly, maybe a little messed up, but still
> legible.  This rang true on my first x2 machine (it had a 5/6 MB upgrade).
> But on my current x2 machine (w/32MB upgrade) the screen pre-driver
> load is *completely* unreadable!  What causes this difference?  Is
> it the 32M upgrade?  Screen-to-screen variations?

It seems to vary from motherboard to motherboard, as on some the same LCD
panel is readable and not so on others.

Even stranger, it seems to vary with whether you have charging enabled.
Mine gets worse with higher current draws, on the AC adapter.

It also seems to be affected by temperature...

Confusing enough for everybody?  <g>

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Running Word 5.5 on my 200LX, I find that any attempt to use the Shire
Systems' Newton keyboard at the same time blows everything up. Has anyone
else found this? Any workarounds??


In A Word,
Gene            <genewill@ordata.com>   http://qth.com/inaword

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        Am attempting to use IR interface between 200LX and PN60i printer. Printer
is in IR mode; printer and computer both set to "Epson"; IrDA programs (two
TSRs) installed and verified in memory per file on SUPER; 200LX is set to
IR on System menu: when I attempt to print from "Memo," the four green
lights on the printer cycle left-to-right a couple of times -- indicating
that information has been sent/received -- but nothing prints. Printer
works fine on 486's parallel port, so I must be missing something somewhere
using IrDA. Any ideas, anyone ... please?


In A Word,
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Date:         Sat, 1 Aug 1998 23:24:43 +0100
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Hi

I understand that hinge failure is a known problem on HP 100/200 LXs. In fact
there is a link from S.U.P.E.R. to a picture of an LX with a broken hinge,
apparently this problem is caused by HP making the right hand hinge too tight.

I thought my 100LX wasn't going to suffer this problem because the screen has
always been a bit floppy on the left hand end and anyway, having looked at the
picture on S.U.P.E.R. it appears that hinge crack can be seen at the back right
corner of the lid when the machine is closed up. I thought, therefore that even if
the hinge in my LX started to go, I would know before it got too bad. Well I was
wrong on both counts!

Last week I found that the lid of my LX seemed to be extra floppy and it was
difficult to close it up properly because the screen didn't seem to line up
properly. In a couple of days it got so bad I took the right hand end cap off to
see what was going on and I found that the screen had almost totally broken
away from the pivot.

At first I just tried super glue where the hinge was cracking, but it was just
about impossible to hold the hinge together will I tried to glue it, also the hinge
seemed so stiff that as soon as I tried to open or close my LX the hinge broke
again. I then tried completely stripping down the right hand hinge to loosen it up.
This wasn't a great idea since it is almost impossible to put back together
again - in fact I can't work out how HP manufacture them in the first place. I did
eventually get it all back together a bit looser, but still not loose enough to
make super glue last more than a couple of open/close operations. So for
about a week I was using my LX with the screen held on by elastic bands -
although this works (all the connections to the screen go through the left hand
hinge) and having a high tech thing like a palmtop PC held together by elastic
bands has a certain je ne sais quoi, it wasn't very satisfactory.

I have therefore had another go at fixing the hinge. This time I have reinforced
the hinge with a couple of strips of copper from the edge of a old PCB that I had
lying around. I have glued these around the curved part of the hinge where it
had cracked and up the right hand edge of the screen on the inside and along
the right hand side of the lid on the outside. This seems to have worked very
well and my LX now seems to be as good as new - if looking a little unusual.

So my question is has anyone else tried major reconstructive plastic surgery
on their LX? Did it work? and most importantly how long did it last? Should I
expect it fail again forcing me to get a new one or is it likely to last for years?
Obviously the answer depends on how well I've done my fix but if other people
have fixed their hinges and had years of use, I'd like to know (especially since I
was thinking of getting a big flash card but I won't bother if my LX is likely to
fall apart terminally in a couple of months.).

John


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 John Waller
 john@jwaller.demon.co.uk
 Listening to the music the machines make......
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Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
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Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 15:26:50 +0100
From: Ian Dean <id@pyram-id.demon.co.uk>
To: Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: ANN: New version of XTCE available (fwd)

Patrick West wrote:
>
> Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if you need WimpCE to run
> the emulator or will it also run directly on the hardware?

It's a Win32 application. It needs a Win32 capable OS...

Ian Dean

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On Sat, 1 Aug 1998, Gene A. Williamson wrote:

>         Am attempting to use IR interface between 200LX and PN60i
> printer. Printer is in IR mode; printer and computer both set to
> "Epson"; IrDA programs (two TSRs) installed and verified in memory per
> file on SUPER; 200LX is set to IR on System menu: when I attempt to
> print from "Memo," the four green lights on the printer cycle
> left-to-right a couple of times -- indicating that information has been
> sent/received -- but nothing prints. Printer works fine on 486's
> parallel port, so I must be missing something somewhere using IrDA. Any
> ideas, anyone ... please?

This is just a wild guess since I don't have the same printer, but I've
noticed that some of the printers we use at work won't print out a DOS job
until they have a full page.  Have you tried form-feeding it or anything
after printing?

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Date:         Sat, 1 Aug 1998 18:15:55 -0700
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Folks,

While looking at shareware chess games I happen across this little gem. It
is a tiny chess clock that runs wonderfully on my hp200lx.



   Files from the cd-games archive
   (since Jun 23,1998)
   chessclk.zip
   dos/board/
   May 03,1988
   17 K
   dos/board/chessclk.zip

   USA
   **** chessclk.zip 17 K
   ftp.cdrom.com



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Mikhail,

Have you tried contacting D&A software support? I know this looks like
a pass the buck answer but there are some good reasons for suggesting
this:

1) D&A Technical Support (aka Stan) has probably had to deal with this
problem previously.
2) If they have not dealt with it previously they can add it to their
database for future customers.

Having said that I can tell you that you did not provide enough
information - most importantly who is the ISP? Looking at your email
address it looks as if you are with AT&T Canada. I know that at least
one of the other beta testers has used ATT (they insisted Win95 only
as well but...) and I thought there were suitable scripts provided?
Perhaps because you are with AT&T Canada the script needs modifying
slightly. If they want Win95 I would suggest trying the generic CHAP
script.

I will drop a line to that beta tester and see what he tells me but in
the interim I would contacting suggest D&A support.

As part of your additional information you should provide information
about what you have tried - it all acts as clues as to what may be
wrong.

GaryS

> Gary - I wonder if you could advise me. I am trying to set up the demo
> version of WWWLX, with a view to registering. However, when I called my =
ISP
> tech support about their script, all they could say was: "SCRIPT? =
Windows 95
> does not require any scripts, and you cannot connect in DOS..."
>
> How does one figure out the proper script for WWW-LX dialer?
>

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you can try increasing the Static option in the Setup | Advanced.
Use Ctl-Filer to access the Setup app and in Advanced you have the
option to increase the Static. Mine is set to 10 but you may need
more according to the way you use your HP, i.e,  TSRs, etc.

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>         Am attempting to use IR interface between 200LX and PN60i printer.
>         Printer
> is in IR mode; printer and computer both set to "Epson"; IrDA programs
> (two TSRs) installed and verified in memory per file on SUPER; 200LX is
> set to IR on System menu: when I attempt to print from "Memo," the four
> green lights on the printer cycle left-to-right a couple of times --
> indicating that information has been sent/received -- but nothing prints.
> Printer works fine on 486's parallel port, so I must be missing something
> somewhere using IrDA. Any ideas, anyone ... please?
>
>
> In A Word,
> Gene                    <genewill@ordata.com>
>
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              Alain <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
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$125????
did you use GOLD for  the connections?
Alain

> * Zoom 14.4 Pocket Modem - $125
>
> Includes custom 11-1/2" serial cable for the 200LX. Runs on a 9V battery.
> One of the best pocket modems ever made and very hard to find these days.


Al
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Date:         Sun, 2 Aug 1998 18:43:40 +1000
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In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SOL.4.02.9807231626350.6104-100000@feynman> from "James P.
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> Quicken v 7.0 for DOS.  This is the next-to-last DOS version of Quicken.
> It will run fine on an LX.  Just the original 3.5" disks; no manuals.  $5

What's this version got that Pocket Quicken hasn't (just a general idea <g>)

Also, would you be willing to deliver by internet?


--
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Date:         Sun, 2 Aug 1998 19:07:45 +10
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Hi Brendan
As usalle, it's not easy to trade with someone  living in another country.
the question is more:
will you accept a scanned $.
If so, do you prefere a JPEG or a TIF?
Alain
:))
> Also, would you be willing to deliver by internet?

Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
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> Running Word 5.5 on my 200LX, I find that any attempt to use the Shire
> Systems' Newton keyboard at the same time blows everything up. Has =
anyone
> else found this? Any workarounds??

Yes, I have had this same problem. In fact I have not been able to use
the Newton Keyboard with Word 5, Word 5.5 or WP5.1. I would be
interested if someone has figured this out.

Andy Zarick

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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 00:43:44 +0800
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I'm off on holiday in about a week and thought that
it might be fun to load the HP200 up with some
reading material for vertical reader. Boring
plane flight Perth - Sydney - Christchurch NZ
Lots of time to waste so intend learning HP manual
by heart <grin>  I assume the pilots don't mind
HP200's as I know they don't like laptops and
cellular phones (over here anyway).

Where is the the best location for text files for
novels, novelettes or any good technical text
files on the HP200LX or other technology
articles.

Regards to all......Liam

PS next year I'll be more organised with GSM
modem card and mobile (I wish) and I'll give you all
skiing reports from the south Island of New
Zealand. 8-)

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Date:         Sun, 2 Aug 1998 11:06:41 -0700
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Symantec has finally given up and said they do not support linking with PDA's
starting in version 4.0.  I have been using my trusty 200LX for years with the
ACT for Palmtops program and direct linking it to the desktop version.  Now I
can no longer do that.  Can someone please tell me how to at least semi
regularly get my data from the desktop version to either the palmtop
version or
barring that.. into the HP's built in programs... If I can't go both ways I
can
live with it, but I need to have my data with me on the road.
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<font size=3>Symantec has finally given up and said they do not support
linking with PDA's starting in version 4.0.&nbsp; I have been using my
trusty 200LX for years with the ACT for Palmtops program and direct
linking it to the desktop version.&nbsp; Now I can no longer do
that.&nbsp; Can someone please tell me how to at least semi regularly get
my data from the desktop version to either the palmtop version or barring
that.. into the HP's built in programs... If I can't go both ways I can
live with it, but I need to have my data with me on the
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>
> PS next year I'll be more organised with GSM
> modem card and mobile (I wish) and I'll give you all
> skiing reports from the south Island of New
> Zealand. 8-)
>

Teli or downhill? (G)

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Date:         Sun, 2 Aug 1998 11:40:28 -0700
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I made a cyrillic overlay by photocopying the overlay illustration in the
back of the manual (appendix D) with size adjusted to match the lx (I
think it was 125%), then cutting out the key-shapes with a razor knife.
My manual doesn't have a picture of an english overlay,
but you could use one of the illustrations as a template for the basic
outlines and then write the letters onto it.

I had intended to make a more permanent one by covering the paper with
thin plastic before cutting the holes, and to stick it down with a couple
of bits of that blue putty-like stuff you can get in a hardware store for
hanging papers on walls without tacks (I don't remember what it's called).
But the "temporary" one has worked so well I never felt the need to
upgrade.


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Date:         Sun, 2 Aug 1998 16:33:46 -0400
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Subject:      Speed driver

A couple of days ago there was a thread about losing the speed driver if the
c: drive got zapped. How would you reload the driver if you didn't have it
on a SRAM card or the equivalent? Will software like Transfile still work on
the LX if the driver isn't loaded on the LX?

Jeff


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Date:         Sun, 2 Aug 1998 17:11:10 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Jeff
You can put a copy of the speed driver on c:
especially if its a 32MB drv.

and why wouldn't you have a copy on a flash?
Everybody and his mother has a flash don't they?

Yes, Transfile should work, cpack will too.
if you got one of those screens you can still see
when speed goes.  or you may be able to injet it
with interlink or laplink. But best to get a flash
for out of body backups anyway.
If you don't have a substantial flash, how do you
back up?  You need a flash for on the road for out
of body backups when yor 500 miles, 500 miles,
away from home.

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Date:         Sun, 2 Aug 1998 15:24:02 -0700
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You can download with whatever transfer software you want but remember to
set the palmtop to 1/2 the serial port baud rate of the desktop to connect.

Dan Carrington

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| From: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
| To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
| Subject: Speed driver
| Date: Sunday, 02 August, 1998 1:33 PM
|
| A couple of days ago there was a thread about losing the speed driver if
the
| c: drive got zapped. How would you reload the driver if you didn't have
it
| on a SRAM card or the equivalent? Will software like Transfile still work
on
| the LX if the driver isn't loaded on the LX?
|
| Jeff
|
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Mitch, I'm looking for a backup 2 meg HP200LX that can be upgraded to 6
or 8 meg.  I'm not interested in the speed doubling or 32meg RAM units,
just something like the 6meg unit I already have.  Do you know of a
source for a used one, and about what I might pay? About $200?

David

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Date:         Sun, 2 Aug 1998 19:14:06 -0500
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Hi.
I just wanted to pass along some information on a comprehensive,
easy-to-use statistics package which is currently available,
well-supported, updated, and cheap.  It is MODSTAT, made by Dr. Robert
Knodt.  It is available at:
http://members.aol.com/rcknodt/pubpage.htm

The package takes up a little over 2 MB.  It runs very happily on the LX.
Dr. Knodt has a timed, full-featured evaluation copy you can try out.  The
cost to purchase the registered version is only $22 ($18 for students).

I've used it for a few weeks now, and the most significant shortcoming
I've noticed is the lack of an import function.  However, instructions are
included which show how to convert an Excel file to be used.  Generally,
you have to enter data directly from the program, which can be difficult
for large data sets.  Also, the data entry does not allow editing.  Since
the data files are ASCII files, you can do editing with your favorite text
editor.  One quirk is a limitation of 6-character file names for data
files (I have no idea why).

Overall, I think the program is a bargain for the price, and it does every
test I could need it to do (over 200).  If you're a stats student or
newbie, there are also a couple of routines which will help you determine
the proper test to run.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
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Subject:      Flash Question

I'm considering buying a 10MB flash card for backup purposes and have a
couple of questions:

1) Which is best, standard flash memory or the new compact flash with the
   adapter to fit the card slot?

2) How much should I pay for a card and should I consider buying a used
   card? It will only be used for backup purposes.

3) Once I have a card, is there a simple way to dump a copy of my c: drive
   to the card?

Jeff


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   >I'm considering buying a 10MB flash card for backup purposes and
   >have a couple of questions:
   >1) Which is best, standard flash memory or the new compact flash
   >with the adapter to fit the card slot?
Message-Id: <19980803032122.PEVL11071@12.64.37.72>
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 03:21:22 +0000

For something as small as 10mb, either one would be OK. Watch out for older
PCMCIA cards that probably aren't as fast or power conscious as the new
flash/CF.

   >2) How much should I pay for a card and should I consider buying a
   >used card? It will only be used for backup purposes.

I paid $112 for a 16mb CF and adapter (includes tax and shipping) at
BuyComp about 2 weeks ago. Unless you're sure of your sources, I'd just buy
new .. 10mb shouldn't cost much and it's certainly not worth the
aggravation of dealing with a problematic card (unless you got it dirt
cheap).

   >3) Once I have a card, is there a simple way to dump a copy of my
   >c: drive to the card?

I use PKZIP to make a nightly archive of the entire C drive (sans EMM
paging area and temp directory). Best method to use may depend on the
size of your C drive and how much of it you plan to backup.

- Longden

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tim.shephard@bigfoot.com writes:

> I know everyone says its a great program.  And it looks quite nice.  I =
am
> considering purchasing it.
>
> I would just like some input first.  After the initial 'gee whiz this =
is
> cool phase', how much do you actually use it?  Under what conditions =
(ex.
> when traveling only, or most of the time), and which parts, WWW, email, =
or
> newsgroups?

Let me put it this way, Tim.  Since installing WWW/LX Plus on my
palmtop, my desktop is obsolete for Internet Email and newsgroups.
Period, end of story.  I have all of my Email right at my finger tips
since my palmtop is always in my belt holder.  I am way too busy to be
tied down to a desktop for Email activities.  Since my palmtop is my
sole Email engine, I don't have to worry about which computer (home or
work) did I download with, or leaving them on the server for the other
computer to get, or reading them twice, or any other problems.

I got hooked on palmtop Email and messaging many years ago with the
excellent program acCIS that is the off line reader for CompuServe.
This program on the palmtop unchained me from the desktop for ALL of
my CompuServe activities and now Web/LX does this for all of my
Internet Email and newsgroup stuff.

I still use the desktop and Netscape for Web browsing, though.  This
is mostly because surfing the web is basically an online type of
thing, I print out a lot of the stuff I view, and because I am not
downloading much of anything I will be needing to carry with me.

BTW, I admit to being a acCIS and Web/LX beta testing since day one
for each of those products.  :-)


Stan

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Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de writes:

> Till now I can start *one* Sys-Mgr application in parallel to POST/LX,
> if I do the following:
>  - close all appl with 'moreexm', which also closes filer
>  - use Appl-Mgr (shows 472K free) to start 'POST/LX' (using 375K)
>  - call Appl-Mgr (&...) and close it (ESC)  !!!!important!!!!
>  - call one Sys-Mgr appl ... close it, call another one ..
>
> This gives also room enough to call POST-setup, pick and MEMO during a
> POST session (using 10KB cut/paste buffer).

There may be a few other things you can do to optimize this.  Have you
looked at your settings for SysMgr Static RAM and clipboard?  Static
RAM is usually defaulted to 10K, but you never need that much.
Something like 2K is all you will probably ever need.  You may also be
able to reduce the size of your clipboard.

I know it is convenient to run WWW/LX Plus from an icon in AppMgr, but
when you do that, the AppMgr application remains open using about 17K
of space.  I notice in your tip that you mention closing it manually.
Well, if you you just shell to DOS with the hot key which is
Ctrl-Lotus, then you will end up at a DOS prompt with no overhead of
the AppMgr running.  Now just make a batch file that does a CD to the
directory where WWW/LX Plus is installed and then runs it for you.
You would set the size of this DOS box in the SysMgr Setup application
(Ctrl-Filer) F5 (System), F8 (Advanced) DOS.

If you like AppMgr icons or even if you use the Ctrl-Lotus and batch
file thing I just suggested, it would pay to have two of them.  One
which only runs the POST.EXE program directly for your offline work
like reading messages, writing messages, running SETUP or WWWSETUP,
etc.  And have another icon/batch file to run the WWW.EXE program
which then launches POST.EXE for online work.  Actually, it would
probably be good to have three - the third one would run WWW.EXE and
HV.EXE for web browsing.

The advantage of the first setup I mentioned is that without WWW.EXE
in memory, this gives some more RAM for other stuff like PE or SysMgr
(to use Memo) or whatever.


Stan

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> tim.shephard@bigfoot.com writes:

> I'm trying to setup the newgroup part of WWW/lx.  My server requires
> authentication.
>
> In the individual group settings I put in the server name, login, and
> password.
>
> The response is no permission, or Authentication error.

My first inclination would be to see if the login and password are
correct.  Check with you ISP to see if these is a special login and/or
password for authentication with the newsgroup server that is
different from the one to log into the ISP.  Or maybe there is some
modification to the login such as adding "news." in front as in
"news.mylogin".  Who knows.

Are you dialing into the same ISP that has the news server you are
trying to use.  I don't know that you can dial into ISP #1 and then
access the newsgroup server on ISP #2.


Stan

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> Gary - I wonder if you could advise me. I am trying to set up the demo
> version of WWWLX, with a view to registering. However, when I called my =
ISP
> tech support about their script, all they could say was: "SCRIPT? =
Windows 95
> does not require any scripts, and you cannot connect in DOS..."
>
> How does one figure out the proper script for WWW-LX dialer?
>
> Mikhail
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Date: July 30, 1998 10:26 PM
> Subject: Re: WWW/LX Users
>
> I have been using all of the components (email, newsgroups, WWW,
> telnet, robot) since the products inception. I use the email portion
> most extensively on a daily basis. For complicated reasons (unrelated
> to beta testing) I have six email accounts across three different ISPs
> and access them all in one online run from the palmtop. I receive all
> the mailing lists to which I am subscribed (both work and personal
> topics) on the palmtop and make extensive use of the filtering
> functions to automatically keep things under control. I have received =
up to
> several hundred messages a day although traffic is lighter at the
> moment!
>
> In the interest of full disclosure I should point out that I am a beta
> tester for the product not that Avi pays us :-) (Free copy of the
> software excepted).
>
> GaryS
>
> > I would just like some input first.  After the initial 'gee whiz this =
is
> > cool phase', how much do you actually use it?  Under what conditions =
(ex.
> > when traveling only, or most of the time), and which parts, WWW, =
email, or
> > newsgroups?
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Mikhail Epelbaum <mepelbaum@ATTCANADA.NET> writes:

> I am trying to set up the demo
> version of WWWLX, with a view to registering. However, when I called my =
ISP
> tech support about their script, all they could say was: "SCRIPT? =
Windows 95
> does not require any scripts, and you cannot connect in DOS..."
>
> How does one figure out the proper script for WWW-LX dialer?

The important clue is the comment from the ISP Tech guy that said
"Win95 not require a script".  The "script" that Win95 uses is a
special authentication called CHAP.  So, to make this work with
Web/LX, just use the CHAP script and you should be fine.  But as Gary
S. pointed out, AT&T is a bear of an ISP with their weird login ID's
and passwords.  Working through that stuff will be harder than dealing
with the script issue.

The ISP's Tech guy who said "you cannot connect in DOS" should be
shot.


Stan

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Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> writes:

> I'm considering buying a 10MB flash card for backup purposes and have a
> couple of questions:
>
> 1) Which is best, standard flash memory or the new compact flash with =
the
>    adapter to fit the card slot?
>
> 3) Once I have a card, is there a simple way to dump a copy of my c: =
drive
>    to the card?

Either the Compact Flash or the full sized PCMCIA card format are the
same inside.  Doesn't matter.  If all you are ever going to use it for
is C-drive backups, then it really doesn't matter at all.

The way I back up my C-drive it to just use Filer to copy the whole
thing to a directory on the flash card.  In your case, I would suggest
that each backup go into a new directory which is named something like
the date of the backup, such as "19980802".

A better idea would be to use use PKZIP to compress all of the stuff
in the C-drive into one archive file on th flash card.  This will
save space on the flash to allow you to have more generational backups
and to keep the file count down.  If you ever need to restore
something from the .ZIP archive, PKUNZIP will extract it for you.

I use a batch file for this kind of thing like this:

rem     One parameter: date string
pkzip    %1  C:\*.*  -r  -p  -ex  -a+
pkunzip  %1  -t

The batch file is called ZIPBAK and takes one parameter and that is
the name of the archive file to create.  So, I run it like this:

ZIPBAK 19980802

to zip up the entire C-drive into an archive file with today's date
(as I entered it).  Works great and is less filling.  :-)


Stan

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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:08:16 +0930
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Thanks for the replies regarding corrupted RAM. The latter note
was great.

I did try check.exe which comes with stacker, but it didn't find
any problems with the disk itself, so I suspect the problem was wiht
my RAM. Haven't installed any new TSRs etc for quite a while either.

Tried the ESC-ON RAM test, but the screen suffered from the shifted digit
problem, and could make out numbers counting up, but they didn't seem to
stop counting. Any ideas on how long this should take for a 6M machine ?

Thanks

David Bird

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-----Original Message-----
From: Stanley Dobrowski <stan_dobrowski@CSI.COM>


My first inclination would be to see if the login and password are
correct.  Check with you ISP to see if these is a special login and/or
password for authentication with the newsgroup server that is
different from the one to log into the ISP.  Or maybe there is some
modification to the login such as adding "news." in front as in
"news.mylogin".  Who knows.

Are you dialing into the same ISP that has the news server you are
trying to use.  I don't know that you can dial into ISP #1 and then
access the newsgroup server on ISP #2.
------------------------

To test my login and password, I setup another newsgroup on my windows
computer using the same info.  And I noted that I had to check my server
requires me to logon.  But thats it, it works perfectly.

When I transfer that same info to post/lx, its still has an authentication
errors, cannot select group, etc...

Arghhhh

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments)
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Hi, Jeff:

1) Which is best, standard flash memory or the new compact flash with the
adapter to fit the card slot?

Get a CompactFlash card for the versatility it provides.

2) How much should I pay for a card and should I consider buying a used
card? It will only be used for backup purposes.

See http://www.shoresystems.net for prices. We'll meet any comparable price
you can find on new CFs. Used CFs are probably ok, but new isn't much more,
so why not go that route?

3) Once I have a card, is there a simple way to dump a copy of my c: drive
to the card?

Yes, just copy the contents to the card in the same way you'd copy files to
any fixed disk or floppy.

Bernie Torbik
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Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
>
> Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de writes:
>
> > Till now I can start *one* Sys-Mgr application in parallel to POST/LX,
> > if I do the following:
> >  - close all appl with 'moreexm', which also closes filer
> >  - use Appl-Mgr (shows 472K free) to start 'POST/LX' (using 375K)
> >  - call Appl-Mgr (&...) and close it (ESC)  !!!!important!!!!
> >  - call one Sys-Mgr appl ... close it, call another one ..
> >
> > This gives also room enough to call POST-setup, pick and MEMO during a
> > POST session (using 10KB cut/paste buffer).
>
> There may be a few other things you can do to optimize this.  Have you
> looked at your settings for SysMgr Static RAM and clipboard?  Static
> RAM is usually defaulted to 10K, but you never need that much.
> Something like 2K is all you will probably ever need.
>
Till now I use 10K - so I will try 2K. Does anybody have bad experiences
with 2K static RAM?

>
> I know it is convenient to run WWW/LX Plus from an icon in AppMgr, but
> when you do that, the AppMgr application remains open using about 17K
> of space.  I notice in your tip that you mention closing it manually.
>
For me it seems to be the easiest way to run POST/LX with the required
memory (375K) for all situations.

> Well, if you you just shell to DOS with the hot key which is
> Ctrl-Lotus, then you will end up at a DOS prompt with no overhead of
> the AppMgr running.  Now just make a batch file that does a CD to the
> directory where WWW/LX Plus is installed and then runs it for you.
> You would set the size of this DOS box in the SysMgr Setup application
> (Ctrl-Filer) F5 (System), F8 (Advanced) DOS.
>
I like to run a small DOS-Box with 124K. Also I've setup a macro called
with 'Alt-123' which starts DOS via Filer, using all available RAM.

Thanks for your hints on using batch files.

Best Regards
  Hermann

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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 16:07:04 +0900
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              Kitakubo Kazuto <kitakubo@PTC.SONY.CO.JP>
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David,

>Tried the ESC-ON RAM test, but the screen suffered from the shifted digit
>problem, and could make out numbers counting up, but they didn't seem to
>stop counting. Any ideas on how long this should take for a 6M machine ?

Around five minutes for double speed.
Shifted digit problem is normal behavior.

Best Regards,
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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 16:54:48 +0900
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              Kitakubo Kazuto <kitakubo@PTC.SONY.CO.JP>
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Subject:      Re: Corrupted RAM ?  (Also: memory configs in HP200LX)
Comments: To: Ignacio <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
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Ignacio Garcia Perez wrote:
>- 32MB machines (Terra Network japanese upgrades) are whatever machines,
>with the mainboard memory removed, and all four /RAS lines driving four 8MB
>chips with some glue logic.

They also provide 16MB board. (RAS2,RAS3)

>Actually, I know for sure that 65MB/66MB (for 1MB/2MB machines
>respectively) have been achieved using special chips from Hitachi (which
>each has two 8MB chips grouped together in a single housing!).

I confirmed yet and worked fine in x2.27 clock.
I guess T2T must used same chips for 64MB board.

>8MB chips are 64Mbit DRAMs. When 256Mbit DRAMs are available (32MB), a
>128MB HP200LX *IS* possible. Doing this upgrade would require removing the

Is there any FP or EDO mode 256Mbit DRAM?
I'm looking for it but seems no manufacturer planned.

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>
> Where was this available recently, I seem to have deleted the message
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim

> http://www.necx.com
>
> then go to the surplus area...it's in there!
>
> Steve
> Subject:        $10 card reader

I bought one of these last week. Got it in about 3 days. Installed
without a problem and W95 detected it immediatly. Works great. I would
recommend these to anyone who has a memory card

Andy

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Dear colleagues,
I am on holidays from 15.07.98 until 06.08.98.
All e-mails will be answered asap after my return.

Thanks for your patience.

Willi

Thanks
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> Let me put it this way, Tim.  Since installing WWW/LX Plus on my
> palmtop, my desktop is obsolete for Internet Email and newsgroups.
> Period, end of story.  I have all of my Email right at my finger tips
> since my palmtop is always in my belt holder.  I am way too busy to be
> tied down to a desktop for Email activities.  Since my palmtop is my
> sole Email engine, I don't have to worry about which computer (home or
> work) did I download with, or leaving them on the server for the other
> computer to get, or reading them twice, or any other problems.

I'm looking forward to this.  I currently have WWW/LX, which I have only
used expensively on vacation.  Problem is my company's central exchange,
which has trouble with even a 2400 baud connection sometimes.  Fortunately
rumor has it that we're collecting quotes for a new system, so hopefully
I'll have a similar setup to yours, soon.  (I could now if there was
an ethernet interface for www/lx - alas, this isn't available.)

-Chris Lott

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Nope....this "mother" doesn't have a flash yet.  Got an extra laying
around???   for free???
Jim J.

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On  2 Aug 98 at 19:14, James P. Grenert wrote:

> Hi.
> I just wanted to pass along some information on a comprehensive,
> easy-to-use statistics package which is currently available,
> well-supported, updated, and cheap.  It is MODSTAT, made by Dr. Robert
> Knodt.  It is available at:
> http://members.aol.com/rcknodt/pubpage.htm

Just for Info. I use ABStat for DOS , is a commercial program not
very expensive ( about 70-90 USD), and can import and export TXT,
CSV or DBF files.

There are one demo for windows limited do a few variable available
It is a complete stat program and the DOS version run nice in the
HPLX. It is distributed by Anderson Bell.

abell@rmii.com

Here are the main specs.

ABstat and ABsurv+ have been united into one program named ABstat.
There is also a Windows version of ABstat called WinSTAR.

Exploratory Analysis with descriptive
statistics, frequency distributions, box plots, histograms, scatter
plots, bar graphs, pie charts and more.Parametric and
Non-Parametric statistical tests for analyzing differences or
relationships in your data. Powerful but easy-to-use banner
and stub reports for in-depth analysis of survey data.

frequency report
Kolmogorov-Smirnov 2 sample test
Kruskal-Wallis 1-way analysis of variance
Mann-Whitney U test
both a 1 sample and 2 sample runs test
a sign test
Spearman rank correlation
Wilcoxon signed ranks test
Chi Square
simple cross-tabulations

ABstat now has all the survey functions of ABsurv.

For those upgrading from 6.0 or earlier, the file format is new and
now
includes true character variables up to 255 characters long and a new
print-image numeric type in addition to floating point; there is no
longer a separate 8087 version.
Increased max data set size to 512 vars by 32000 records.
ݨs


Eduardo Cesana

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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 07:47:44 -0500
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Hi Jeff;
10MB is too small, yor not looking at the big
picture.  The big question.
Presumining 10MB is all yor gonna need for the
forseeable future, I would suggest you get 20MB
or even 32MB which is under $200.  You won't
have to worry abouy about zip files and have
the three generations you need and still have
room for very older zips.

The problem with zips is the inconvenienc to fool
with it when you need one file.  A good thing with
more storage space is you can keep your necessry
files with you but not on the C: Yu really never
have enough.

Its also good for security should you have all
your a/c nbrs and other confidential stuff on it,
the guy that finds don't get everything.  Like a
safe, if he's got the time, he can get in, if its
worth the trouble. You have both with you but not
together.

Actually 80+MB isn't too big.  Ever think of big
pieces of info that"s good to have on hand?
Like maps.  Tables,  Reference stuff.  If your not
thinking of using the LX this way, try a CE.
Its got color and so much easier.  Really.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Sorry that I cannot find the dict file in this address.


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Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 7:53 PM
Subject: Amer. Her. Dictionary


I posted info in the files section of URL below.
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http://comports.com/hplx <--old stuff is new...

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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 08:55:09 -0500
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You also might want to consider running Dosshell, which isn't
quite as fast as hot-keying, but is pretty useful.  I use it
for WWW/LX, Post/LX, Excel 2.1, American Heritage Dictionary,
WordPerfect, etc., and the Sysmgr.  Also, the price is nice
($0).  You can get it from an original disk set of DOS v. 5.

HTH,

Claud

> Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de writes:
>
> > Till now I can start *one* Sys-Mgr application in parallel to POST/LX,
> > if I do the following:
> >  - close all appl with 'moreexm', which also closes filer
> >  - use Appl-Mgr (shows 472K free) to start 'POST/LX' (using 375K)
> >  - call Appl-Mgr (&...) and close it (ESC)  !!!!important!!!!
> >  - call one Sys-Mgr appl ... close it, call another one ..
> >
> > This gives also room enough to call POST-setup, pick and MEMO during =
a
> > POST session (using 10KB cut/paste buffer).
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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 08:55:09 -0500
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Send it to Thaddeus - they will fix all ills for a flat $125 (I
think) fee.  I think it would be worth shipping across the
big pond.

Good luck,

Claud

On Sat, 1 Aug 1998, John Waller wrote:

> Hi
>
> I understand that hinge failure is a known problem on HP 100/200 LXs.

... snip ...

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Jeff,

You can also make some change via debug, the directions for which T2T
provide.  I just had mine 'fixed', and had similar worries.

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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 02:08:56 -700
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On 1998-08-01 John Waller
 HP>Hi
 HP>I understand that hinge failure is a known problem on HP 100/200
 HP>LXs. In fac t
 HP>there is a link from S.U.P.E.R. to a picture of an LX with a broken
 HP>hinge, apparently this problem is caused by HP making the right
 HP>hand hinge too tigh t.
 HP>I thought my 100LX wasn't going to suffer this problem because the
 HP>screen ha s
 HP>always been a bit floppy on the left hand end and anyway, having
 HP>looked at t he
 HP>picture on S.U.P.E.R. it appears that hinge crack can be seen at
 HP>the back ri ght
 HP>corner of the lid when the machine is closed up. I thought,
 HP>therefore that e ven if
 HP>the hinge in my LX started to go, I would know before it got too
 HP>bad. Well I was
 HP>wrong on both counts!
 HP>Last week I found that the lid of my LX seemed to be extra floppy
 HP>and it was
 HP>difficult to close it up properly because the screen didn't seem to
 HP>line up properly. In a couple of days it got so bad I took the
 HP>right hand end cap of f to
 HP>see what was going on and I found that the screen had almost
 HP>totally broken away from the pivot.
 HP>At first I just tried super glue where the hinge was cracking, but
 HP>it was ju st
 HP>about impossible to hold the hinge together will I tried to glue it,
 HP>also th e hinge
 HP>seemed so stiff that as soon as I tried to open or close my LX the
 HP>hinge bro ke
 HP>again. I then tried completely stripping down the right hand hinge
 HP>to loosen it up.
 HP>This wasn't a great idea since it is almost impossible to put back
 HP>together again - in fact I can't work out how HP manufacture them
 HP>in the first place. I did
 HP>eventually get it all back together a bit looser, but still not
 HP>loose enough to
 HP>make super glue last more than a couple of open/close operations.
 HP>So for about a week I was using my LX with the screen held on by
 HP>elastic bands - although this works (all the connections to the
 HP>screen go through the left h and
 HP>hinge) and having a high tech thing like a palmtop PC held together
 HP>by elast ic
 HP>bands has a certain je ne sais quoi, it wasn't very satisfactory.
 HP>I have therefore had another go at fixing the hinge. This time I
 HP>have reinfo rced
 HP>the hinge with a couple of strips of copper from the edge of a old
 HP>PCB that I had
 HP>lying around. I have glued these around the curved part of the
 HP>hinge where i t
 HP>had cracked and up the right hand edge of the screen on the inside
 HP>and along
 HP>the right hand side of the lid on the outside. This seems to have
 HP>worked ver y
 HP>well and my LX now seems to be as good as new - if looking a little
 HP>unusual.
 HP>So my question is has anyone else tried major reconstructive
 HP>plastic surgery
 HP>on their LX? Did it work? and most importantly how long did it
 HP>last? Should I
 HP>expect it fail again forcing me to get a new one or is it likely to
 HP>last for years?
 HP>Obviously the answer depends on how well I've done my fix but if
 HP>other peopl e
 HP>have fixed their hinges and had years of use, I'd like to know
 HP>(especially s ince I
 HP>was thinking of getting a big flash card but I won't bother if my
 HP>LX is like ly to
 HP>fall apart terminally in a couple of months.).
 HP>John
Hi, I cannot say much to your question how long it will take to fall apart
again but can just describe was happened to my 100LX.  Mine cracked not on
the outside but on the inside. Gluing with a superglue did work but after
less then a year after the repair it seemed that the hinge is completely
gone.(there was actual no place at the inside for any reinforcements)
 The crack was there again and after opening the right side it showed
that the glue had made the plastic brittle. The plastic particles came out
easy and after some fine work on the rest of the hinge I removed a 0,7 cm
wide and 1 cm long spring of the hinge. The bigger parts of the plastic
hinge remains I put back and closed the hinge. Right now there is no
friction what however (the screen is now practically flat when I open the
100LX and I have to keep the palmtop carefully in my hands when using it. I
do not know how long this situation will work and if other parts on the
right side may come loose. There is a small metal axle which formerly was
inside the spring which seems to have no function but I am scared to remove
it too. At least I can work with it at the moment and there is no stiffness
at all which would bother me :-(
I am open for suggestions if any on how to keep my 100LX alive.
This computer has a nut loose on the keyboard!

Net-Tamer V 1.10  - Registered

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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:08:56 -0600
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With the recent discussion about Pine and other email programs, I thought
I'd take another crack at using my 200LX to read email.

Currently I have a dial-up account on a UNIX server where I can use
Pine/Elm/Mutt to do email.  This works fine since the HP ends up being a
terminal.  What I'd like to do is to read and compose email offline.

The Pine software on S.U.P.E.R. seems to require something other than a
dial-up account to work.  I also looked at Qua!-lx a UNIX-Mail gateway for
cc:Mail on S.U.P.E.R..  This seems like it would fit the bill but the docs
have left me a little confused.

I think there is a lot more I'd need to do than just call up the server.
Seems like there would be some manual moving of files or something.  The
server has both uqwk and sendmail installed.  I guess I'm just not sure how
to get everything to work together.

Is anyone using Qua!-lx in a similar situation that would be willing to
answer some questions?

Thanks,

Don


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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 12:51:29 -0400
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Thank you every one  who gave me advice re setting up WWW/LX. It was a CHAP
thing, after all. I shouldn't have called those idiots at Attcanada, just
experimented with settings on my own.

It's a great program, no question about that. I am just waiting to get my
authorization code from Dasoft to throw off those desktop chains.


..... The ISP's Tech guy who said "you cannot connect in DOS" should be
shot....

Even better - let him remain there for the rest of his career.


Mikhail

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Date:         Tue, 4 Aug 1998 01:11:56 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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I can get the following at a what appears a good price at A$35

"BRAND NEW, BOXED TRANXIT PRO INFRARED CONNECTIVITY KIT
COMPRISING
INFRARED ADAPTER FOR CONNECTION TO SERIAL PORT
VERSION 3.2 SOFTWARE FOR WIN3.11/WIN95 ON 3.5" FLOPPIES
USER MANUAL
REGISTRATION CARD
LICENCE CARD"

Does anyone know if this can be made to work with the
HP IrDa port?

Best regards.....liam

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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:35:07 -0700
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Remember, most of the people you will talk to at an ISP are Windoze only
folks.  They are too young to know much about DOS.  Might I suggest
finding a local ISP and getting to know the owner.  My ISP provider is
fascinated by the idea of access via the 200LX and the freedom it
provides the user.  I suspect it will only be a matter of time until he
joins the 200LX world.  We are all ambassadors!

Colin

Mikhail Epelbaum wrote:

> ..... The ISP's Tech guy who said "you cannot connect in DOS" should be
> shot....
>
> Even better - let him remain there for the rest of his career.

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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 13:46:55 -0400
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pls email
riley@iglou.com
$40 ea. new

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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 20:39:58 +0200
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              BOUREK <bourek@MED.MUNI.CZ>
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Hello HPLX subscribers,
in response to all articles about recharging and heating the 200LX, I have
dismantled my  power supply , which is a switched high frequency supply. The
following should hold true to all "non heavy" that is "not standard metal
transformer" types. The switched supply can usually be bought in stores that
carry mobile phone accessories. Some can be as small as  a standard
matchbox. I have a supply that is rated 12V max 0.8A that is big as about
1/2 the pack of cigarettes.  Most of DC adaptors of the switched type have
on their circuit boards a variable resistor, which can regulate the output
voltage in some extent. I tried lowering my down to 9V and charge the 200LX
with this. All I got was a "parity check error" and a frozen machine. I
restarted by Ctrl+arrow+ON and next tried recharging by 11V. This time it al
worked fine, the heat generated was very mild when compared to the former
12V I used, the 1500mA NiMH GP reghargeable bateries charged to their full
2.66V which is what I used to get when charging by 12V and the screen was
readable al of the time.

It seems to me, that charging with 11V DC that is easily obtainable by
adjustment of a switched power supply is a better deal to your LX than
warming it up by 12V. I will post a message if I find, that the bateries are
behaving different to what I was used to when charging by 12V (lower life
per charge), but I feel that there will be no difference.

Wishing you a pleasant day
Ales B. {:>

bourek@med.muni.cz
ob/gyn, medical informatics, assisted reproduction

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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 20:50:08 +0200
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Hello,
for some time I have been on the lookout for LCD screen I need for a 1MB
200LX.
Deja News did not fethc anything.
Does anyone on this marvelous list know of a source or has a otherwise
unuseable (broken) 200LX with a useable screen I could buy?
Any idea if there is a possibility of mailing such a  1MB unit for upgrade
(SN SG54600554) and get a new case and a new screen for a reasonable price
(say arround 150 $).
All ideas wellcome!

Thanks
Ales B. {:>

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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:30:22 -0500
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              Bill Vickerman <BVICKERMAN@CHRONIMED.COM>
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You might try Thaddeus computing.  They repair system for a flat rate
of $125.  That seems to be within your budget.
There Web is www.thaddeus.com


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Hello,
for some time I have been on the lookout for LCD screen I need for a
1MB
200LX.
Deja News did not fethc anything.
Does anyone on this marvelous list know of a source or has a
otherwise
unuseable (broken) 200LX with a useable screen I could buy?
Any idea if there is a possibility of mailing such a  1MB unit for
upgrade
(SN SG54600554) and get a new case and a new screen for a reasonable
price
(say arround 150 $).
All ideas wellcome!

Thanks
Ales B. {:>

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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 15:04:34 -0500
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I close my eyes and imagine...
A numerically controlled milling machine, busy cutting from 316
stainless steel, a complete replacement case for my HP200LX.
I open my eyes and <sadness>, it is not so.

Any comments?

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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 16:34:37 -0400
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Now that sounds like a neat project!  The question is, can a case for the
HP200LX be purchased from HP so that a set of drawings and subsequently the
cnc code produced to make the case.  I wouldn't want to take mine apart to
pursue such a project, but I would be willing to purchase a case and make
the drawings.  Then of course, there is the cost and any potential problems
with HP over duplicating the case design.  You could also make the case out
of 2024 Aluminum and have it anodized in black, red, blue or whatever.

John Guenther

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>
> I close my eyes and imagine...
> A numerically controlled milling machine, busy cutting from 316
> stainless steel, a complete replacement case for my HP200LX.
> I open my eyes and <sadness>, it is not so.
>
> Any comments?
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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 1998 16:07:34 -0500
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Hey now!  This was my wish to the list several months ago.

I think we could blow those CE machines out of the water if we had our
devices housed in beautiful anodized aluminum.  Face it, the green 200lx
case is kind of ugly and prone to cracking.  Anodized aluminum or highly
polished stainless steel would be the ultimate in geek cool.

My dad, an engineer/sometimes-surveyor wants one in a day-glo ABS plastic
case.

Let us know when we can place our orders <g>.

Larry Zimmerman

PS - I bet aftermarket cases like this would sell like hotcakes for the
PalmPilots and Palm IIIs.

On Mon, 3 Aug 1998 16:34:37 -0400 John Guenther
<jguenthe@NAFIS.FP.TRW.COM> writes:
>Now that sounds like a neat project!  The question is, can a case for
>the
>HP200LX be purchased from HP so that a set of drawings and
>subsequently the
>cnc code produced to make the case.  I wouldn't want to take mine
>apart to
>pursue such a project, but I would be willing to purchase a case and
>make
>the drawings.  Then of course, there is the cost and any potential
>problems
>with HP over duplicating the case design.  You could also make the
>case out
>of 2024 Aluminum and have it anodized in black, red, blue or whatever.
>
>John Guenther
>
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>> I close my eyes and imagine...
>> A numerically controlled milling machine, busy cutting from 316
>> stainless steel, a complete replacement case for my HP200LX.
>> I open my eyes and <sadness>, it is not so.
>>
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Has anyone been able to run Cardfile (from Win 3.x) successfully?  Or, does
anyone know of a utility to convert Cardfile "cards" to the Phone database?

Thank you for any help you may have.

John Linkowsky
Sr. Network Specialist
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I'm looking LXPLORE.EXE. The little brother of Microsoft's Explore ported
to the palmtop. LXPLORE combines Filer and the App. Manager.

If anybody has it can you please forward me a copy to try.


Regards,

Qman...


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Doesn't Puma Intellisynch for the LX do cardfile files?

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                Has anyone been able to run Cardfile (from Win 3.x)
successfully?  Or, does
                anyone know of a utility to convert Cardfile "cards" to
the Phone database?

                Thank you for any help you may have.

                John Linkowsky
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> Has anyone been able to run Cardfile (from Win 3.x) successfully?  Or, does
> anyone know of a utility to convert Cardfile "cards" to the Phone database?

John:

Gosh... I'm sure I did this once, back when I first got my palmtop and
was running Windows 3.1 at work.  Seems like there was some third-party
shareware program that did this.  Sorry I can't be any help, but seems
like just knowing it has been done might be of interest.

-Chris


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I was interested in the speed that compressed
.exe's load. The uncompressing will take some time,
perhaps offset by the size of the exe to be read.
So I tested four of the compressors:  diet. pklite, lzexe,
and tinyprog. Producing this table for a 76K program
showing space saved and the time penalty to load the
pgm on a normal speed 200LX:

                             Size       Time to
                              bytes      Load
Not compressed     76288     1.4 sec
 Compress with:
  diet                     42466     3.6 sec
  lzexe                   42971     2.2 sec
  pklite                  41382     2.2 sec
  tinyprog              43344     2.6 sec

So I am going to uncompress a few of my most used
DOS programs and avoid using diet for this purpose.

The Simtel DOS archive has a directory (EXECOMP)
that contains 25 items related to compressing exe and
com files. One interesting program there is chk4c360.zip.
It scans exe's and identifies pgms. compressed with one
of twelve compressors.


Owen Samuelson wrote:

>                         Size in bytes
>               ---------------------------------
> Filename      Before     Diet 1.45f  Tinyprog 3.9
> ------------  --------         ----------  ------------
> ppt.exe          175,966     76,070      78,000
> icnvu.exe         52,137     27,323      28,112
> cgagraph.com   46,234     14,547      15,296

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Yo!

Not a good idea, not a great idea
not even an outstanding idea, but a
superclifragilisticexpialidicious idea.

I might comment, to make this with a padded
insuation to absorb shock when dropped. If poss
shock absorb the screen too.  very doable.

You might wanna check with kiwigreen to see
what they've done to date.  They ruggedize
WinCEs for the U.S.Morine corpses.

Don't wanna reinvent the wheel.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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On Mon, 3 Aug 1998 16:51:42 -0400, John Linkowsky <JOHN_LINKOWSKY%NORTHAME=
RICA@FIRMENICH.COM> wrote:

> Has anyone been able to run Cardfile (from Win 3.x) successfully?


Hi John ,

Yes! But, cardfile will only work on the palmtop if you have Win 3.0 =
installed.




Regards,

Qman...


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On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 11:40:28 -0700, Susana Rodley wrote:

>I had intended to make a more permanent one by covering the paper with
>thin plastic before cutting the holes, and to stick it down with a =
couple
>of bits of that blue putty-like stuff you can get in a hardware store =
for
>hanging papers on walls without tacks (I don't remember what it's =
called).

Blue Tak would you believe :-)

--=20
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   >I close my eyes and imagine...
   >A numerically controlled milling machine, busy cutting from 316
   >stainless steel, a complete replacement case for my HP200LX.
   >I open my eyes and <sadness>, it is not so.
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 00:52:04 +0000

I'm not up on Material Science. Is 316 SS dent and scratch resistant?
Seems that was Delorean's problem with his ss car body..too difficult to
cosmetically treat minor dents and dings. Of course it wasn't milled
ss either.

Less geek but more grunt...you can spray it with rhino-coating like they
use in truckbeds. Then just take a sharp knife to free all the frozen
joints <g>. I'm sure you can get your choice of colors, but getting the
batteries out may be a problem.

Or if you want chic (or gaudy) have your LX gold-leafed. Be like carrying
gold bullion in your pocket. OTOH, if you do this and you use your Lx a lot
in public, make sure your life insurance is paid up.

- Longden

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The original dies or molds were probably made with some kind of CNC
program.  If that is available, or the CAD file used to generate the CNC
program, we could be in business...so to speak.  I am a CNC machinist
working as a programmer, but, alas, the machines I'm working with
curremtly are 2D lasers.

David

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How about magnesium alloy?? The case on the new 3 lb. Sony super-slim portable
looks very nice.  (If the battery didn't have a 1.5 hr effective use period,
it might be a very attractive machine from a get-work-done stand point, too.)

By the bye, if a few of us were willing to kick in some non-recurring bucks,
maybe something other than a pipe dream could result.

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Have any left?
I would like one if you do.

Jim

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>pls email
>riley@iglou.com
>$40 ea. new
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> I close my eyes and imagine...
> A numerically controlled milling machine, busy cutting from 316
> stainless steel, a complete replacement case for my HP200LX.
> I open my eyes and <sadness>, it is not so.
>
> Any comments?

Probably too heavy.  I'd rather see the case made out of that plastic
which also BE the battery.  Expand battery life by enlarging it!

Cheers...
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It looks like PKLITE is a clear winner based on compressed size and
start up delay.

Cheers...
Russ

> I was interested in the speed that compressed
> .exe's load. The uncompressing will take some time,
> perhaps offset by the size of the exe to be read.
> So I tested four of the compressors:  diet. pklite, lzexe,
> and tinyprog. Producing this table for a 76K program
> showing space saved and the time penalty to load the
> pgm on a normal speed 200LX:
>
>                              Size       Time to
>                               bytes      Load
> Not compressed     76288     1.4 sec
>  Compress with:
>   diet                     42466     3.6 sec
>   lzexe                   42971     2.2 sec
>   pklite                  41382     2.2 sec
>   tinyprog              43344     2.6 sec
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Sorry about by recent response to the list as well as the person with the
Omnibook batteries.

Get too busy sometimes!

Again, please excuse me

Jim

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Does anyone know where I can still get this program (for LX200)?  Thanks.
---------------------
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> It looks like PKLITE is a clear winner based on compressed size and
> start up delay.


Bear * in mind that other files of the same size may compress quite
differently, and uncompress/load with different times. But I agree
that PKLITE looks pretty good!

Thanks very much for the table!
> > I was interested in the speed that compressed
> > .exe's load.
> >                                Size      Time to
> >                                bytes     Load
> > Not compressed                 76288     1.4 sec
> >  Compress with:
> >   diet                         42466     3.6 sec
> >   lzexe                        42971     2.2 sec
> >   pklite                       41382     2.2 sec
> >   tinyprog                     43344     2.6 sec

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>Probably too heavy.  I'd rather see the case made out of that plastic
>which also BE the battery.  Expand battery life by enlarging it!
>
and provide for backlighting.........
>
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If you're considering a major project like a new case, why not make it to
accomodate
a backlighted screen??

>How about magnesium alloy?? The case on the new 3 lb. Sony super-slim portable
>looks very nice.  (If the battery didn't have a 1.5 hr effective use period,
>it might be a very attractive machine from a get-work-done stand point, too.)
>
>By the bye, if a few of us were willing to kick in some non-recurring bucks,
>maybe something other than a pipe dream could result.
>
>Cordially,
>
>Lynn M. Cavendish
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The program used was Disk Navigator which
reads a directory and presents a file list.
so maybe .3 sec should be subtracted as being after
the load. The uncompressed exe is noticably faster.
Its hard to time events that short.




Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > It looks like PKLITE is a clear winner based on compressed size and
> > start up delay.
>
> Bear * in mind that other files of the same size may compress quite
> differently, and uncompress/load with different times. But I agree
> that PKLITE looks pretty good!
>
> Thanks very much for the table!
> > > I was interested in the speed that compressed
> > > .exe's load.
> > >                                Size      Time to
> > >                                bytes     Load
> > > Not compressed                 76288     1.4 sec
> > >  Compress with:
> > >   diet                         42466     3.6 sec
> > >   lzexe                        42971     2.2 sec
> > >   pklite                       41382     2.2 sec
> > >   tinyprog                     43344     2.6 sec
>
> --
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> Voice + 61 03  9905 5194               law thesis: Ecommerce impersonation
> Ignorance is no excuse - it's the real thing.          Irene Peter
>
> * I am terribly confused about the word "bear". Whenever I read it,
> I always think of a big, furry bear, perhaps fishing in a mountain
> stream somewhere ... rather than doing time in a sentence, carrying things.
> But its homonym, "bare" makes me thing of naked skin and ... never mind.
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Hi.

Sorry if this was already posted on the list but I didn't find any proper
answer in the archive.

I use a 2Mb SRAM card as the A: drive in the HP 200 LX.

When I insert this card in the PCMCIA slot of my Win95 PC, it is recognized
and installed as an SRAM card but I can't have access to it as a disk drive
and read/write files as I did under Win 3.11.

Does anybody know if special drivers are needed to achieve this ?

Thank you very much.

Etienne

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Jeff MacDowell wrote:
> I am having trouble getting LXBACKUP to automate with an appointment.  I am
> setting a daily appointment as follows "|\path\lxbackup.exe".  It gets
> stuck wanting RETURN keys to get through menus.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.  In addition, can you specify
> different configuration files?

You could try ks.com (available on SUPER) to stuff keys in the keyboard
before calling lxbackup.exe

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At 11:30 PM 8/3/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Does anyone know where I can still get this program (for LX200)?

Hi Linh

Yes! D&A sales it. Check their wed site.

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At 10:13 PM 7/31/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Gary - I wonder if you could advise me. I am trying to set up the demo
>version of WWWLX, with a view to registering. However, when I called my ISP
>tech support about their script, all they could say was: "SCRIPT? Windows 95
>does not require any scripts, and you cannot connect in DOS..."
>
>How does one figure out the proper script for WWW-LX dialer?

Hi Mikhail,

If you're using Win95 without a script, try using WWW/LX with the CHAP login.
It it worked for me!

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Date:         Tue, 4 Aug 1998 13:37:49 +0200
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At 04:07 PM 8/3/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hey now!  This was my wish to the list several months ago.

Mine too, but in addition:

I have been experimenting with solar cells. A solar cell with the size of
the HP can easily feed the hardware and top off the batteries (provided
that you use a 3 volts cell and connect it directly to the batteries). I
have been doing this, and glued a solar cell on the top cover of the HP.
Sadly, a very thin glass panel doesn't get much protection from the easily
bending palmtop case, so it didn't take long before it cracked.

My palmtop is for me something which makes my computing independant. The
only thing I need is a weekly charge for the batteries. Now, if I could get
rid of that! Just imagine. Your palmtop always ready to use, never to worry
about batteries. If it gets low, put it out in the sun, and tilt the top
cover so it gets the most out of it (I'm living in The Netherlands, and it
could be possible that in warmer countries you'd better put the palmtop in
the shade, where it still charges rapidly enough).

>I think we could blow those CE machines out of the water if we had our
>devices housed in beautiful anodized aluminum.  Face it, the green 200lx
>case is kind of ugly and prone to cracking.  Anodized aluminum or highly
>polished stainless steel would be the ultimate in geek cool.

Yep. And it provides a much stabler backbone for a fragile solar panel.

>Let us know when we can place our orders <g>.

I will definitely order one!

Frans

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At 08:39 PM 8/3/98 +0200, you wrote:
>voltage in some extent. I tried lowering my down to 9V and charge the 200LX
>with this. All I got was a "parity check error" and a frozen machine. I

According to the HP manual, the input voltage should be 9.6 Volts *minimum*.

>restarted by Ctrl+arrow+ON and next tried recharging by 11V. This time it al
>worked fine, the heat generated was very mild when compared to the former
>12V I used, the 1500mA NiMH GP reghargeable bateries charged to their full
>2.66V which is what I used to get when charging by 12V and the screen was
>readable al of the time.

I'm using a 13.75 Volt 100Amp power supply (no, not only for the Palmtop,
it is feeding quite some equipment as well at the same time). The HP
doesn't get warm at all, and also the screen stays perfectly readable. My
wife is charging her HP also on my desk, but sometimes she's using a small
12V adapter in the kitchen. Now, if the Palmtop is charged in the kitchen,
it gets hot and the screen becomes unreadable. What I suspect (but haven't
checked) is that a cheap 12V adapter is throwing out a voltage which has a
large 50 (60) Hz wave on it. That *may* be interfering with the switched
power supply inside the Palmtop. That also explains why my 100 Amp 13.75V
DC-canon (which is as smooth as possible) doesn't heat up the HP.

>It seems to me, that charging with 11V DC that is easily obtainable by
>adjustment of a switched power supply is a better deal to your LX than
>warming it up by 12V. I will post a message if I find, that the bateries are

I just don't believe that 1 Volt difference should make a difference at
all. By 200mA input this means a difference in power consumption of 0.2
Watt. That's not enough to make a difference between hot and just warm, folks!

>behaving different to what I was used to when charging by 12V (lower life
>per charge), but I feel that there will be no difference.

If some people want to lower the 12V themselves, you don't have to adjust
something inside the power supply. Just buy a diode, and put it in series
with the Palmtop. Every diode lowers the voltage with 0.7 Volts. (Don't
worry: if you connect it the "wrong way" it will simply not conduct,
nothing gets broken). You can put multiple diodes in series if you wish.

Frans

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Does pklite do a one-time compression (create an executable)?
Or do you have to recompress after each use?


TIA,

Claud
-----------------

On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, Russel Brooks wrote:

> It looks like PKLITE is a clear winner based on compressed size and
> start up delay.
>
> Cheers...
> Russ
>

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Subject:      Re: Corrupted RAM ?  (Also: memory configs in HP200LX)
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>I confirmed yet and worked fine in x2.27 clock.
>I guess T2T must used same chips for 64MB board.

Did not know yje 64MB was commercially available yet.

>>8MB chips are 64Mbit DRAMs. When 256Mbit DRAMs are available (32MB), a
>>128MB HP200LX *IS* possible. Doing this upgrade would require removing the
>
>Is there any FP or EDO mode 256Mbit DRAM?
>I'm looking for it but seems no manufacturer planned.

The truth is that I didn't verify what kind of 256Mbit they have achieved,
but Samsung announced it some time ago.

Regards. Nacho.

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At 14:08 3/08/98 +0930, you wrote:
>Thanks for the replies regarding corrupted RAM. The latter note
>was great.
>
>I did try check.exe which comes with stacker, but it didn't find
>any problems with the disk itself, so I suspect the problem was wiht
>my RAM. Haven't installed any new TSRs etc for quite a while either.
>
>Tried the ESC-ON RAM test, but the screen suffered from the shifted digit
>problem, and could make out numbers counting up, but they didn't seem to
>stop counting. Any ideas on how long this should take for a 6M machine ?

Can't check it out now, but the normal RAM test should take no more than
five minutes. The hard test takes much loooonger, but anyway, despite the
shifted digit problems, you should see the numbers changing. If it stops,
maybe there's something wrong about your DRAM.

Regards. Nacho.

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I've had the HP 1/2 a week and I know it is
late (00:45) here in W.Australia and my brain
must be shut down........but......

have just been playing in DOS on the old HP200
and guess what I can't figure out how you put
a \ (backslash) in from the keyboard ;-(

going to bed now.....maybe it will hit me in
the morning......or some kind person will have
sent me email.

Regards 2 all........liam

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On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Liam M. Early wrote:

> have just been playing in DOS on the old HP200
> and guess what I can't figure out how you put
> a \ (backslash) in from the keyboard ;-(

The backslash key is up at the top left corner, right between the ESC key
and the F1 key.

Shifted, it produces the | (pipe) character.

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No recompression needed. Not by any of
the exe compressors that I know of - it doesn't fit
the model.
BTW, lzexe is free, pklite is shareware.


Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> Does pklite do a one-time compression (create an executable)?
> Or do you have to recompress after each use?
>
> TIA,
>
> Claud
> -----------------
>
> On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, Russel Brooks wrote:
>
> > It looks like PKLITE is a clear winner based on compressed size and
> > start up delay.
> >
> > Cheers...
> > Russ
> >
>
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D&A?  Where's their site?

At 06:25 AM 8/4/98 -0400, you wrote:
>At 11:30 PM 8/3/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>Does anyone know where I can still get this program (for LX200)?
>
>Hi Linh
>
>Yes! D&A sales it. Check their wed site.
>
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Hi all,


> From:         Stan PetersSMTP:speters@KDSI.NET
> Subject:      Re: Tinyprog, Diet, PKZIP, et al..............
>
>
        .....No recompression needed. Not by any of
> the exe compressors that I know of - it doesn't fit
> the model.
>
Pklite DOES compress , but it also adds a self-extraction header to the file
when it does.  the compressing part needs to be only done once.  Then every
time you use the program, it decompresses itself into memory and then runs
the program that it just placed into memory.

Compression is done once......decompression is done every time you run the
program you compressed.  Once you've done the first part, the rest is
transparent to the user.


> BTW, lzexe is free, pklite is shareware.
>
>
Cool....I know about Pklite but I haven't seen Lzexe...thanks, I'll check it
out !

Jon

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I charged the night before, no problem..  Plugged it in last night, didn't pay
attention to if it started charging or not, and this morning it was cold and
hadn't charged...  Checked the adaptor, it had 12v, plugged it in again,
nothing..  Setup reported it was still on battery power.

So I did esc shift on, and luckily it happily reported to be charging.

Weird stuff..  I think I'm not the first one to have this happen though, but
at least that's the first thing to try if this happens.

--
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>have just been playing in DOS on the old HP200
>and guess what I can't figure out how you put
>a \ (backslash) in from the keyboard ;-(
>2nd button from upper left...next to exc

>going to bed now.....maybe it will hit me in
>the morning......or some kind person will have
>sent me email.
>
72/73 Floyd NQ7X  M/NQ7X       Phoenix ScQRPion   DM33uq  QRP-L 343
ARRL AMSAT ARCI G-QRP 8952  NORCAL   DX WRKD HF=324 SAT=101 QRP=130

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I'm considering consolidating my Internet activities on my
200LX.  To do so I will need a convertor on my desk at work
since our phone lines are digital.  So far I have seen ads
for two Konexx products (a $130 unit that uses two 9V batteries
and a $90 unit that requires AC) and something called a
"LineStein" (I'm *not* kidding :) for $120.  The latter also
requires AC and claims to "learn" various phone systems.

If anyone has experience with any of these converters, or
other systems, I would greatly appreciate hearing it.  My
work phone equipment is AT&T if that matters.

Thanks for any and all comments.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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>> and guess what I can't figure out how you put
>> a \ (backslash) in from the keyboard ;-(


>The backslash key is up at the top left corner, right between the ESC
key
>and the F1 key.


Thanks guys, I'm awake now......I think 8-)

Regards......Liam

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I recently found drivers for my Miniature flash card, this is not an ATA card,
so it needed special drivers.  This driver also had stuff for SRAMs.  I loaded
the driver and now I can read the Miniature card just great.  After seeing the
info for support on the SRAMs I tried my SRAM and it worked fine.  The only
hitch is that I can't remember if I could read the SRAMs before or not.  I
never needed to read the SRAMs in my laptop.
Give it a try...

> In order to use Mini card with PC, you can download the driver "True
> FFS"  from M-System's website: www.m-sys.com
>   click "Tech Support"  "True FFS for Windows95 Ver.3.3.6"
>


Nadir - wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Sorry if this was already posted on the list but I didn't find any proper
> answer in the archive.
>
> I use a 2Mb SRAM card as the A: drive in the HP 200 LX.
>
> When I insert this card in the PCMCIA slot of my Win95 PC, it is recognized
> and installed as an SRAM card but I can't have access to it as a disk drive
> and read/write files as I did under Win 3.11.
>
> Does anybody know if special drivers are needed to achieve this ?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Etienne
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<HTML>
I recently found drivers for my Miniature flash card, this is not an ATA
card, so it needed special drivers.&nbsp; This driver also had stuff for
SRAMs.&nbsp; I loaded the driver and now I can read the Miniature card
just great.&nbsp; After seeing the info for support on the SRAMs I tried
my SRAM and it worked fine.&nbsp; The only hitch is that I can't remember
if I could read the SRAMs before or not.&nbsp; I never needed to read the
SRAMs in my laptop.
<BR>Give it a try...
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>
<PRE>In order to use Mini card with PC, you can download the driver "True
FFS"&nbsp; from M-System's website: www.m-sys.com
&nbsp; click "Tech Support"&nbsp; "True FFS for Windows95 Ver.3.3.6"</PRE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
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<P>Nadir - wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Hi.

<P>Sorry if this was already posted on the list but I didn't find any proper
<BR>answer in the archive.

<P>I use a 2Mb SRAM card as the A: drive in the HP 200 LX.

<P>When I insert this card in the PCMCIA slot of my Win95 PC, it is recognized
<BR>and installed as an SRAM card but I can't have access to it as a disk
drive
<BR>and read/write files as I did under Win 3.11.

<P>Does anybody know if special drivers are needed to achieve this ?

<P>Thank you very much.

<P>Etienne

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In my daily work, I run dBase programs that generate text files. These
get printed out via Memo application. The printing is always OK.
However, when I try printing straigtht from dBase, printing is not
reliable. Somelimes I get a few lines of Xs and that's all.

I assume that my LX's serial port somehow spontaneously disregulates.
Is this the "fiddling" that NOFIDDLE.com is supposed to prevent?

NOFIDDLE came with my WWW/LX, but documentation.

Mikhail
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On  4 Aug 98 at 1:11, Liam M. Early wrote:


> "BRAND NEW, BOXED TRANXIT PRO INFRARED CONNECTIVITY KIT
> COMPRISING
> INFRARED ADAPTER FOR CONNECTION TO SERIAL PORT
> VERSION 3.2 SOFTWARE FOR WIN3.11/WIN95 ON 3.5" FLOPPIES
> USER MANUAL
> REGISTRATION CARD
> LICENCE CARD"
>
> Does anyone know if this can be made to work with the
> HP IrDa port?

I couldn't configure to work with TRANXIT with the IR port from HPLX.
I can only communicate in DOS mode with connectivity set at 9600 BPS
in IrDa PROTOCOL.

But I believe the kit worth just to elimitate the wires.


ݨs


Eduardo Cesana

ECOLOGICA Tecnologia & Controle Ambiental Ltda
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At 09:33 PM 3/8/98 +0200, Nacho wrote:
>
>Did not know yje 64MB was commercially available yet.
>
Just recieved my HP Palmtop Paper (Volume 7) yesterday from Thaddeus
Computing. It advertised 64MB 2Xspeed upgrade for 1 or 2 MB HPLX at
US$799.00.  Used like new 200lx 64MB 200LX at US$999.95.

Cheers,

Chin Jien Hung
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Nacho,

>>I guess T2T must used same chips for 64MB board.
>Did not know yje 64MB was commercially available yet.

It's here...
http://www.times2tech.com/techram.html

>The truth is that I didn't verify what kind of 256Mbit they have achieved,
>but Samsung announced it some time ago.

Samsung announced as 256Mbit SDRAM but it's not EDO.
http://www.sec.samsung.com/news/cgi-bin/secnews.cgi?app=print&key=173&

I suppose the Hitachi 128Mbit is the last memory for LX.

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---
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> > BTW, lzexe is free, pklite is shareware.
> >
> >
> Cool....I know about Pklite but I haven't seen Lzexe...thanks, I'll check it
> out !

SimTel:

isl12.zip     (900505)   14K  Lists names of EXE files compressed with LZEXE
lzexe91e.zip  (901014)   80K  Compress most EXE files and run them directly
unlzexe8.zip  (920828)   14K  Converts LZEXE compressed EXE to original EXE
pckselfm.zip  (910117)    2K  TP source: Allow autoconfig prgs to be LZEXEd

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> > > BTW, lzexe is free, pklite is shareware.
> > >
> > Cool....I know about Pklite but I haven't seen Lzexe...thanks, I'll check it
> > out !
>
> SimTel:
> lzexe91e.zip  (901014)   80K  Compress most EXE files and run them directly

Duh. I was just thinking that 80K is a fair bit. Then I realised:
        (a) that's probably including docs etc etc
        (b) should be able to apply lzexe (pklite or tinyprog) to itself!!!
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barry swatman wrote:

> In order to use Mini card with PC, you can download the driver "True
> FFS"  from M-System's website: www.m-sys.com
>   click "Tech Support"  "True FFS for Windows95 Ver.3.3.6"
>
That's a great hint!! :-)

I was able to remove the DOS-drivers (which I was advised to use by
W95-Help) and can use my PCMCIA SRAM cards now under W95 (32Bit).

I've removed the DOS-SRAM drivers first (from config.sys) and installed
*only* the 'M-System PCMCIA Card Supp Driver' under W95 (setup.exe).

Till now I did not use the 'TRUEFFS.INF' for installation under W95.
(Actually it didn't install without the Card Supp Driver.)

Best Regards
  Hermann

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>So I did esc shift on, and luckily it happily reported to be charging.

When you plug in the charger, a built-in software program should start
automatically but couldn't as your computer was hanging for some reason.

The software controls the charging through a counter: if less than 6 hour=
s,
100 mA is taken, else 45 mA. And if the charging program is not running,
the adapter just deliver power instead of the batteries.

Jorgen
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** Nur Empf-nger **

Hi fellow LXers,

Has anyone had any success using the IR port under DOS? I=27m trying to =
use Laplink 3 (great program, not too big, handles 115,000......) without =
any success.

I=27ve tried the standard addresses for serial ports (03f8, 02fb....) =
without success.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance

Phil


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I've got a friend that has a 2meg, HP200LX that's started to eat batteries.
It doesn't have any extra RAM or doublespeed mods.  No cards inserted into
the PCMCIA slot.  The IR port is turned off.  The unit used to have a 3
month battery life.  Now they only last about 1.5 weeks.

I've suggested that they back up the RAM and just do a hard reset.  We'll
see what happens after that.

Anyone else have this experience?  If so, what caused it and what cured it?
Rgds......Jim Johnson

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Date:         Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:09:26 -0400
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In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Tue, 04 Aug 1998 16:31:06 CDT."

Ted Heise wrote:
> I'm considering consolidating my Internet activities on my
> 200LX.  To do so I will need a convertor on my desk at work
> since our phone lines are digital.  So far I have seen ads
> for two Konexx products (a $130 unit that uses two 9V batteries
> and a $90 unit that requires AC) and something called a
> "LineStein" (I'm *not* kidding :) for $120.  The latter also
> requires AC and claims to "learn" various phone systems.

Konexx has also been advertising a new model, which uses a DSP chip to
free you from fiddling with the gain adjustment.  The battery-operated
unit (Mobile Konnector) comes with an AC adapter, by the way.

A search with Dejanews had revealed that Konexx was the most frequently
recommended brand.  Other models I spotted included the ModemMate and
InsideLine.  Those others appeared to be from OEM's, and I recall that
the latter was dropped when the "manufacturer" (whose primary business
was software) was acquired.

> If anyone has experience with any of these converters, or
> other systems, I would greatly appreciate hearing it.  My
> work phone equipment is AT&T if that matters.

I tried and returned a Konexx Mobile Connector, which is likely the
battery-operated unit you saw advertised.  Before my trip, I tried it
on an AT&T analog phone at work, where it worked just fine (these
devices plug into the handset jack on the phone, so it seemed a
reasonable test).  On the road, I tried to use it with a Comdial
Executech II.  It failed to connect at the recommended gain setting
(there's a list of settings for common phones in the manual), or at any
of the other 3 settings (they run 1-4).

Since this was a weekend trip, I couldn't try Konexx tech. support.  I
stay at hotels infrequently, and encounter digital phone systems even
less frequently, so I decided to simply return the product to the
dealer.  The alternative was to hope for another opportunity to test it
within the two-year warranty period.  My guess is that I had a bad
specimen, or *really* noisy lines.  This was with a 14.4 modem, by the
way.

I recommend that you try a Konexx, purchased through a dealer with a
good return policy (I'd used MacConnection).  Since you plan to use the
device at work, you'll have the option of sorting out any problems with
Konexx tech. support.  Konexx is clearly focused on this business,
unlike the other companies I checked, and they do have a good
reputation.

Good luck, and please do share your findings.

                                -Jim.

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Hi Jim,

> ----------
> From:         Jim JohnsonSMTP:jjohnson@TMCC.COM
> Sent:         Wednesday, August 05, 1998 12:01 AM
>
> I've got a friend that has a 2meg, HP200LX that's started to eat
> batteries.........The unit used to have a 3 month battery life.  Now they
> only last about 1.5 weeks.
>
Is your friend  using NiCads ?  If so, how long have they been in use ?


Jon

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Date:         Wed, 5 Aug 1998 07:37:35 -0700
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On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Jim Johnson wrote:

> I've got a friend that has a 2meg, HP200LX that's started to eat batteries.
> It doesn't have any extra RAM or doublespeed mods.  No cards inserted into
> the PCMCIA slot.  The IR port is turned off.  The unit used to have a 3
> month battery life.  Now they only last about 1.5 weeks.

I assume you meant the Com1 port, not the IR port. In any case, both should
normally be turned off for power savings. The com1 port power is toggled via
Setup/F6/Enable Com1 Port/...

> I've suggested that they back up the RAM and just do a hard reset.  We'll
> see what happens after that.

Good suggestion. HP might also suggest completely initializing your system.
To do this, you'd have to backup your C drive, as all data will be lost.
Remove all batteries (including the backup) and let it sit overnight to
drain (I think some people say it can also be drained by holding down the
"On" key for a minute, after removing the batteries).

Then replace the batteries (I think the original instructions say to put the
AA's in first and then the backup).

A useful tool for diagnostics is the LXSTAT program on the SUPER site which
would display all the current settings in effect. You could output that to a
file and include it in any future notes so we could see exactly how the box
is setup.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:09:00 -0700
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I tried out my NECX PCMCIA card reader under NT 4.0 since it's
got a PCMCIA thingy under "settings" too, but it doesn't work. Next
I'll have to try it on my win95 machines.

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OK folks, I got my brother to lend me a real 360K 5.25" floppy
drive, and it reads all of my old floppies just fine! (whew, that's a
relief)

Unfortunately, I'm too lazy to read my old doc wordstar files from
the  Osborne disks they're on (anybody remember a way to read
these???) short of firing up the old cp/m machine again, so anybody
that wants the manual has to pay $5 for a photocopy and postage if
they actually want to try writing programs with the thing. (Yes, it
was originally developed on an Osborne 1 computer with a hp7470
plotter and epson mx printer!)

Visit this webpage:

http://www.leconsulting.com/arthurhu/softplot/softplot.htm

It's freeware - I've still own the rights, but pass it around to anybody
you want or put it on your own web page, just give me credit. It's got
qbasic included so you don't have to ftp it separately, it will run on
dos, windows 3.1, window 95/98 or NT in a dos box.

Here's the direct address of the download

http://www.leconsulting.com/arthurhu/softplot/softplot.zip

As a bonus, I've got a cute little "abandonware" Fisher Price
school bus game program that works well on the LX if you want to
impress your kids, it's same address, but bus.zip instead.

It's worth having just to have a cool demo to show your friends on
the little LX screen. There's just a little one-line change to change
the screen resolution for HP95, or switch to color in the screen
driver section  of the code.

It's also rigged to print to a epson mx-compatible printer  with
emuplot.exe and the HP7470 if anybody is brave enough to try it
out.

*** web page ***

SOFTPLOT/BGL (BASIC GRAPHICS LANGUAGE)

SOFTPLOT/BGL is a software library and demo program for
Microsoft BASICA and QBASIC to add device-independent
graphics in a fashion similar to Hewlett Packard AGL-compliant
BASIC computers popular in the 70s and 1980s such as the
HP2647 programmable graphics terminal, the HP9800 series
desktop computers, and the HP-85 series. It was created back
in 1983 when I had visions of making it big in graphics before I got
sucked into writing the Twin 1-2-3 compatible spreadsheet
for Cambridge based Mosaic Software (no relationship to the
browser)

Here's a sample program that plots sin(x)/x from -pi to pi :

1000 :NEWPLOT 1
1010 :SCALE -3.14, 3.14, -1, 1
1020 FOR X = -3.14 TO 3.14 STEP 3.14 / 20
1030   :PLOT X, SIN(X)/X
1040 NEXT X
1050 :ENDPLOT
1060 END


It's nearly impossible to create this with so little code with MFC,
Windows, or even Visual Basic, because it handles scaling,
and you don't have to worry about winmain, or all that other yucky
stuff.

There's was also a FORTRAN version, and maybe someday there
will be a C, Windows, Visual Basic and Java version.
Amazinly, to this day, no microcomputer supports the equivalent of
the plotting packages / language extensions common on
FORTRAN minicomputers or BASIC scientific computers, it's all
done in pixel coordinates

Now that I've got a HP200LX, which is a pocket sized PC-XT with a
CGA compatible screen, I've dusted it off as a neat
vector graphics demo program, since there don't seem to be any
out there

I've not yet redone the programming manual, but I can send a
photocopy of the old manual to anyone that wants to pay $5
and play around with programming it. It draws in a blink on 200MHz
machines, but works OK on XT class like the
HP200LX as well.

Here are some features

     2D scaled graphics, move, draw
     Set user coordinates left, right, bottom, top
     "Show" preserves square coordinates, extends sides that end
up short, classic ommision from most non-HP graphics
     packages.
     Set viewport area within page
     Unlabled axes
     good old plot / penup
     A real clipper
     Text justification (helps label axes)
     Text at all angles and sizes (HP plotter only)
     3D line drawing
     3D auto scaling within box of interest
     Driver sends output to screen, plotter, or metafile
     Driver for HP plotters, reads P1 and P2 paper size!
     generates HPGL metafile
     emulation of metafile to Epson MX80 (I need to revamp this to
higher resolution!)

Here are some neat architecural features

     maps keyword arg1 arg2 to p(1)= p(2)= gosub xxxx
     preprocessor let you write program as if it had keywords
     library merges onto end of program after line 9000, so entry
points are stable, and don't conflict with user program
     library uses only one array Z9, which frees namespace, and
makes it run much faster

To Run the Demo:

Download zip file Go ahead, I'm making it freeware, have a ball.

Unzip the file to a directory like c:\softplot

It contains a copy of QBASIC, I'm assuming you already have a
licence for DOS, it's been deleted after DOS6, and not
included on the HP200, but it is also available on Microsoft's FTP
site. BASICA or GWBASIC, which are purely line
oriented with no "graphic" style front end will also work.

From QBASIC, Alt-File-Open DEMORUN.BAS, F5 to run

From BASICA

LOAD "DEMORUN.BAS"
RUN
Just hit "1", enter to run on the screen, ignore the plotter (unless
you want to try hooking up one)

** SOFTPLOT/BGL Demonstration (C) 1983 **
Mosaic Software Inc. Cambridge Mass
Put Demo Data in DEFAULT drive
Please Select a Plot Program
  1 Xwing Fighter (Lucasfilm)
  2 Colonial Viper (Univ. City Studios)
  3 Cardiod Line Design
  4 Web Double Star
  5 Circle Line Design
  6 Text Justify Test
  7 3D Microcomputer
  8 3D Surface
  9 Pie Chart
  10 Line Chart
  11 Change Output Device
  12 Exit BASIC
  13 Automatic Cycle Through Demo


For best effect, type 13, enter to cycle through the demos
automatically. Hit break to stop.

HP200 Links Home | arthurhu@halcyon.com

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 01:00:42 +0800
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I have a problem that I hope can be addressed in this list.

I had been using Laplink Remote that came with the connectivity pack,
both DOS and Windows 3.1 modes.  It worked alright, until I migrated to
Windows 95.  I suppose I did not install the windows version right,
because CPACK needs to run LLRA1.exe in the autoexec.bat when using
win31.  I got a message "Not Enough Resources" if I try to run LLRAWIN
in windows 95.  No matter how I try to alter the autoexec.bat to include
the LLRA1, I always got the same message.

Is anyone using Laplink Remote successfully, in Win95?  Maybe you can
enlighten me of what went wrong.  Thanks.

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Date:         Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:43:35 -0700
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On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Neo Sia Meng wrote:

> I had been using Laplink Remote that came with the connectivity pack,
> both DOS and Windows 3.1 modes.  It worked alright, until I migrated to
> Windows 95.  I suppose I did not install the windows version right,
> because CPACK needs to run LLRA1.exe in the autoexec.bat when using
> win31.  I got a message "Not Enough Resources" if I try to run LLRAWIN
> in windows 95.  No matter how I try to alter the autoexec.bat to include
> the LLRA1, I always got the same message.
>
> Is anyone using Laplink Remote successfully, in Win95?  Maybe you can
> enlighten me of what went wrong.  Thanks.

Have a look at http://www.palmtop.net/~jorgen/w95.htm

There's a tip or two.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:46:03 -0700
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Dear Linh:

> Does anyone know where I can still get this program (for LX200)?  =
Thanks.

Yes! We now produce this software. Please see www.dasoft.com.

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:45:51 -0700
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Yes! MS "invented" CHAP and pmade it the native mode of login
in the DUN of W95 (and now in W98). It has been around since
before W95... Thanks!

  Avi M. D&A

> At 10:13 PM 7/31/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >Gary - I wonder if you could advise me. I am trying to set up the demo
> >version of WWWLX, with a view to registering. However, when I called =
my ISP
> >tech support about their script, all they could say was: "SCRIPT? =
Windows 95
> >does not require any scripts, and you cannot connect in DOS..."
> >
> >How does one figure out the proper script for WWW-LX dialer?
>
> Hi Mikhail,
>
> If you're using Win95 without a script, try using WWW/LX with the CHAP =
login.
> It it worked for me!
>
> HTH

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Date:         Wed, 5 Aug 1998 18:36:51 +0100
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I had exactly the same problem as you are describing, and found the
solution somewhere in the Web (sorry, can't remember where).

In short: I have in the autoexec.bat in my Win95 machine:

        cd \cpack200
        call llra
        pause Wait for connection

When the system boots, you have to wait for a connection to be
established before the protected mode part of win95 starts. This is the
reason for the pause. After the connection established beep of the
palmtop I press Enter, windows boots, and I have a new drive F: with all
my palmtop files.

Hope it helps.
Paulo


Neo Sia Meng wrote:
>
> I have a problem that I hope can be addressed in this list.
>
> I had been using Laplink Remote that came with the connectivity pack,
> both DOS and Windows 3.1 modes.  It worked alright, until I migrated to
> Windows 95.  I suppose I did not install the windows version right,
> because CPACK needs to run LLRA1.exe in the autoexec.bat when using
> win31.  I got a message "Not Enough Resources" if I try to run LLRAWIN
> in windows 95.  No matter how I try to alter the autoexec.bat to include
> the LLRA1, I always got the same message.
>
> Is anyone using Laplink Remote successfully, in Win95?  Maybe you can
> enlighten me of what went wrong.  Thanks.
>
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+---------------+ Phone : +351.1.485 9029   Fax: +351.1.485 9107
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My autoexec just has c:\progra~1\cpack200\llra (progra~1 being the dos
equiv of Program Files which is where I put it).  This line was
installed by the Cpack200 installer as installed after installing
win95.  The Cpack 200 installer needs to run in dos and after installing
you startup windows95 and run setup in the cpack200 wdirectory to
install the windows extensions to make windows happy.  I have done this
many times as windows95 is not stable and it works every time.  I also
checked the startup items in windows95 and there is nothing in it or my
config.sys.

Dan Carrington


Neo Sia Meng wrote:

> I have a problem that I hope can be addressed in this list.
>
> I had been using Laplink Remote that came with the connectivity pack,
> both DOS and Windows 3.1 modes.  It worked alright, until I migrated
> to
> Windows 95.  I suppose I did not install the windows version right,
> because CPACK needs to run LLRA1.exe in the autoexec.bat when using
> win31.  I got a message "Not Enough Resources" if I try to run LLRAWIN
>
> in windows 95.  No matter how I try to alter the autoexec.bat to
> include
> the LLRA1, I always got the same message.
>
> Is anyone using Laplink Remote successfully, in Win95?  Maybe you can
> enlighten me of what went wrong.  Thanks.
>
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My autoexec just has c:\progra~1\cpack200\llra (progra~1 being the dos
equiv of Program Files which is where I put it).  This line was
installed by the Cpack200 installer as installed after installing
win95.  The Cpack 200 installer needs to run in dos and after installing

you startup windows95 and run setup in the cpack200 wdirectory to
install the windows extensions to make windows happy.  I have done this
many times as windows95 is not stable and it works every time.  I also
checked the startup items in windows95 and there is nothing in it or my
config.sys.

Dan Carrington


Neo Sia Meng wrote:

> I have a problem that I hope can be addressed in this list.
>
> I had been using Laplink Remote that came with the connectivity pack,
> both DOS and Windows 3.1 modes.  It worked alright, until I migrated
> to
> Windows 95.  I suppose I did not install the windows version right,
> because CPACK needs to run LLRA1.exe in the autoexec.bat when using
> win31.  I got a message "Not Enough Resources" if I try to run LLRAWIN

>
> in windows 95.  No matter how I try to alter the autoexec.bat to
> include
> the LLRA1, I always got the same message.
>
> Is anyone using Laplink Remote successfully, in Win95?  Maybe you can
> enlighten me of what went wrong.  Thanks.
>

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Date:         Wed, 5 Aug 1998 13:32:53 -0500
Reply-To:     Ted Heise <theise@netins.net>
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Here is yet another question about 200LX solutions for Internet
access.  I've finally decided to give up on Data Comm.  I like
using my shell accounts, but would like more to begin doing my
reading and writing offline.

My interests are mainly e-mail and Usenet--I rarely use the web
and could really care less about browser capabilities.  I'll
either get used to what comes with any package I get, or continue
to use Lynx from a shell account. I have tin set up to mail
posts to one of my e-mail accounts, but will want a method for
posting responses.

Here then is my list of desired capabilities for e-mail and
Usenet.

   MUST sort incoming messages into multiple directories

   must be able to import my Pine addressbook (~200 people)

   must be able to PGP sign without a lot of contortions

   should allow capture of e-mail addresses (no typing)

   should allow selection of filenames when exporting

   would like ability to task-switch to native LX apps

I am willing to spend some time setting things up, or to
spend some money, but would like some assurance that the
solution will meet my needs before investing a lot of either
(my time or money).

I'm afraid Goin' Postal has already been cut.  It looks
like Net Tamer, LXTCP/PNR, and WWW/LX are still possibilities.
PCPine may have an outside chance too.  If anyone would be
willing to share their opinions or experience I would be most
grateful.  If I get enough comparative information I will
try to put together a table.

Thanks to all, especially for the patience of those of you
for whom this is a tired subject.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:11:54 -0500
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              evillal@AMAUTA.RCP.NET.PE
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Subject:      Configurin' Goin' Postal

Hi all:

Last week I received from Thaddeus my 2x 8MB 200LX and was so pleased with I
literally stopped sleeping - stayed up all night!  The first new program I
tried was Goin' Postal, and you know what? I got it right the very first
time and started firing off mails to my friends!!

I've been a passive subscriber of your list and an active admirer. Keep it
so...

Eduardo Villa  -  LIMA  PERU
e-mail: evillal@amauta.rcp.net.pe


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Hi,

> ----------
> From:         Arthur HuSMTP:arthurhu@HALCYON.COM
> Sent:         Wednesday, August 05, 1998 12:09 PM
>
        ......Unfortunately, I'm too lazy to read my old doc wordstar files
from
> the  Osborne disks they're on (anybody remember a way to read
> these???) short of firing up the old cp/m machine again.......
>
>
There used to be one or two programs that would run on the IBM that could
read a whole bunch of odball C/PM disk formats.  The only one I can remember
was called XENOCOPY.  Check around, if your lucky...it is freeware by now
:-)

Jon

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On Thu, 6 Aug 1998 01:00:42 +0800, Neo Sia Meng <neosiam@SINGNET.COM.SG> =
wrote:


> Is anyone using Laplink Remote successfully, in Win95?  Maybe you can
> enlighten me of what went wrong.  Thanks.

Yes! Some time ago David Becher <davidb@netmedia.net.il> posted the
best tip that I've seen and it easy too. I have it on hard copy so give
me a few and I'll re-key in email.

Does anybody else remember that post?

Regards,

Qman...


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-----Original Message-----
From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of
Carson, Jon A.
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 12:22 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: Softplot/BGL Lives!:Cool 2D and 3D graphics demo for qbasic


Hi,

> ----------
> From:         Arthur HuSMTP:arthurhu@HALCYON.COM
> Sent:         Wednesday, August 05, 1998 12:09 PM
>
        ......Unfortunately, I'm too lazy to read my old doc wordstar files
from
> the  Osborne disks they're on (anybody remember a way to read
> these???) short of firing up the old cp/m machine again.......
>
>
There used to be one or two programs that would run on the IBM that could
read a whole bunch of odball C/PM disk formats.  The only one I can remember
was called XENOCOPY.  Check around, if your lucky...it is freeware by now
:-)

Jon



XenoCopy is still around at
http://software-guide.com/cdprod1/swhrec/020/147.shtml

Dan

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Arthur Hu <arthurhu@HALCYON.COM> wrote:
> Unfortunately, I'm too lazy to read my old doc wordstar files from
> the  Osborne disks they're on (anybody remember a way to read
> these???) short of firing up the old cp/m machine again, so anybody

You might want to check out Sydex's 22Disk (distributed as shareware) at
http://www.sydex.com/other.html .  I'm not sure how well it will work;
many PC disk controllers have difficulty reading single-density disks.

Of course, once you get the file over to MS-DOS format disks, I think
you may find you need to go through it and remove the WordStarisms
like the most significant bit being set on the last characters of words.

-Frank McConnell

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Subject:      Re: Corrupted RAM ?  (Also: memory configs in HP200LX)
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At 11:18 5/08/98 +0800, you wrote:
>At 09:33 PM 3/8/98 +0200, Nacho wrote:
>>
>>Did not know yje 64MB was commercially available yet.
>>
>Just recieved my HP Palmtop Paper (Volume 7) yesterday from Thaddeus
>Computing. It advertised 64MB 2Xspeed upgrade for 1 or 2 MB HPLX at
>US$799.00.  Used like new 200lx 64MB 200LX at US$999.95.

What a madness.

I will not say again what I think about these prices. I guess many of the
listees would agree.

Regards. Nacho.

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Subject:      Non LX Question

Sorry for the non-LX inquiry but I thought someone on the list might be able
to point me in the right direction. My son has a pocket Game Boy and the DC
adapter jack on it has apparently worn out. I figured I could take the unit
apart and either repair or replace the jack, but the thing has got some of
those darn security type screws which look like this:

 |
/ \

Does anyone know where I could pick-up a set of screwdrivers like this?

Jeff


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--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 15:55:50 -0700
From: Philip Tait <pjt@phxase.allied.com>
To: mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu
Subject: Fwd: $10 NECX PCMCIA Reader


I installed the card successfully on Red Hat Linux 5.1, and was able to =
access
a Simple Technologies 8Mbyte flash card.

The installation procedure given on the SCM Technologies Web site worked
for Windows 95, but W95 could not mount the flash card.  Any ideas?

Philip J. Tait.....AlliedSignal Engines, Phoenix, Az.....pjt@phxase.allied=
.com


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Date:         Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:44:17 -0500
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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Okay, I'm going to give LXTCP one more shot.  I've got all
the zip files and have printed out some of the instructions
(how's *that* for serious! :)

Only problem is I'm confused at the beginning.  I'm using
a PCMCIA 14.4 Megahertz modem which leads me to believe I
need to use pppd, the serial line driver.  On the other
hand, Rod's directions state that LXTCP programs rely on
bootp protocol and the Dos PPP ddocs say that eppd (the
ethernet driver) emulates bootp.  Which do I need to use?

I'm so confused...

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Nacho write, regarding the new 64 Meg mod:

>> I will not say again what I think about these prices. I guess many of the
>> listees would agree.


If you mean that it is a wonderful bargain, in light of the amount of work
that went into it, and the small market to which it is offered, then yes, I
agree.  We owe the innovater a large debt of gratitude.  (I expect to stay
with my more modest 32 Meg unit for a while yet.)

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Wed, 5 Aug 1998 21:11:26 -0500
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From:         Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Perl on Palmtop

I've got a bunch of Perl scripts I use on the desktop to process
different kinds of text documents.  Our desktops run Perl 5.05 and Perl
5.4 (Win32).  I've tried version 4.xx found on the SUPER site but none of
the scripts seem to work.  Before I waste a ton of time walking through
each one to "backdate" the syntax, is there a FAQ somewhere that explains
the differences between the versions?

Thanks in advance.

Larry Zimmerman

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Date:         Wed, 5 Aug 1998 18:34:15 -0500
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Hi
Somebody ask me about a hand held scanner?
Sorry, my list got zapped.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Subject:      Memory upgrades

Hi people;

"I will not say again what I think about
these prices. I guess many of the listees
would agree."    Regards. Nacho.

...but what can we do?
didn't we few, we happy few, all pay
$500 for 32MB?

Guess they're wainting for us to pay again for 64MB.

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Date:         Wed, 5 Aug 1998 21:41:48 -0500
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Hello list members,

As greed would have it, I have stacked my SimpleTech 40 mb ATA
flash card on my 2x 5 mb 200 LX.  I thought the doubled speed
would make the Stacker-compressed drive run about as fast as a
non-double speed palmtop accesses a non-compressed flash card.
 The jury is still out.  For the 40 mb card, I've loaded about
60 mb of stuff via Stacker, and filer says I have about 35 mb
remaining, which I know is overestimated, but this much space
in the palmtop sure is tempting.  I haven't noticed that much
of a speed detriment yet, ...


I'm having two problems:

1.  I cannot boot from the C:\ drive and have Stacker.com load
automatically.  With the same config.sys on the non-compressed
portion of the A:\ drive, everything loads.  I've tried moving
the statement to different portions of the config.sys file, to
no avail.  Has anyone noticed the same problem?  Not that it is
a huge problem, since I can boot from A:\, but this is curious.

2.  I bought one of the $10 PCMCIA drive cards from NECX,
which works like a normal card drive in Win95 - the machine
beeps when the card is inserted, like a normal drive.  The
only difficulty there is that this card drive is in the back
of the computer, making it a little awkward, which for $10 is
no big deal.  The problem is that I cannot get Stacker
Anywhere to load, so I can read the contents of the compressed
ATA card.  Non-compressed cards work great.  The error message
returned says that I'm tryng to run Stacker Anywhere from a fixed
drive, and Stacker Anywhere is meant for removable drives.
I've tried assign d:=3Da:, in the desktop's autoexec.bat file,
but that doesn't work.  Does anyone have any ideas?

TIA,

Claud

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Date:         Wed, 5 Aug 1998 22:04:43 -0500
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I use something called a fax/modem mate from radio shack. $49.95, uses 2
9volt batteries.  I can get out over any pbx system.

Scott

At 04:31 PM 8/4/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm considering consolidating my Internet activities on my
>200LX.  To do so I will need a convertor on my desk at work
>since our phone lines are digital.  So far I have seen ads
>for two Konexx products (a $130 unit that uses two 9V batteries
>and a $90 unit that requires AC) and something called a
>"LineStein" (I'm *not* kidding :) for $120.  The latter also
>requires AC and claims to "learn" various phone systems.
>
>If anyone has experience with any of these converters, or
>other systems, I would greatly appreciate hearing it.  My
>work phone equipment is AT&T if that matters.
>
>Thanks for any and all comments.
>
>Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
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My solution to digital lines for the PBX at the Sheriff's Dept was to buy a
line splitter for about $3.00. I simply plugged it into the back of one of
the fax machines that aren't on the PBX and have a direct number. It's
unobtrusive since it's out of sight, I plugged a short length of phone cable
to it and just tuck it behind the fax machine. Whenever I come by the
station to do paperwork or to take care of other business <grin/blush> I
just remove the wire from behind the fax machine plug it into my X-Jack
fire-up Goin' Postal and voila, in about 60 seconds or less I've snagged my
email and news for reading and replying later in the evening.

73 Jeff KF4KGQ


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Perl 5 -> 4

> Before I waste a ton of time walking through each one to "backdate"
> the syntax, is there a FAQ somewhere that explains the differences
> between the versions?

There is a very active Perl USENET forum, full of active, helpful Perl 5
users. But there is a thing you should know: they hate Perl 4.
You will most likely be flamed several times for even mentioning it.

But maybe someone will be helpful, or one of their FAQs might give
a definitive answer. My suspicion is that there is no such guide:
Perl 4 seems to have been completely abandoned.

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Ted Heise wrote:
>
> Here is yet another question about 200LX solutions for Internet
> access.  .......
> Here then is my list of desired capabilities for e-mail and
> Usenet.
>
>    MUST sort incoming messages into multiple directories
>
>    must be able to import my Pine addressbook (~200 people)
>
>    must be able to PGP sign without a lot of contortions
>
>    should allow capture of e-mail addresses (no typing)
>
>    should allow selection of filenames when exporting
>
>    would like ability to task-switch to native LX apps
>
The last one is *very important* for me and I would add at least:

     easy and secure archiving with filtering options

Best Regards
  Hermann

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I'll be off for two weeks, having vacation on Rhodes.
(I had to use international call to be online.)

Have a good time.

Hermann

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Message text written by HPLX Mailing List
>I've got a friend that has a 2meg, HP200LX that's started to eat
batteries.
It doesn't have any extra RAM or doublespeed mods.  No cards inserted into
the PCMCIA slot.  The IR port is turned off.  The unit used to have a 3
month battery life.  Now they only last about 1.5 weeks.

I've suggested that they back up the RAM and just do a hard reset.  We'll
see what happens after that.

Anyone else have this experience?  If so, what caused it and what cured it?
Rgds......Jim Johnson
<

Yes, I had the same problem.  removed all the software for my stock 200 2
mb and could not get it to work right.  batteries lasted about 3 hours
total.  stopped using it for about 6 months then just sent it in to
thaddeus.

Might help if you keep it without any batteries at all for 24-48 hours and
then try a fresh set.
I have heard problems with bad components, especiall resistors and
capacitors.  I understand that the power circuits are on the main board and
are easy to fix:  just swap them out!!!

Let me know how it goes.  Hope you don't have to throw in the towel....but
gives a good excuse to upgrade memory!!!!

dave mar

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Thanks a lot Barry, for this tip. However, I could not make it solve my=

particular problem as the card driver
would access my SRAM only after reformatting with the provided utility
Tformat.

Simultaneously, I found another tip on
http://www.scmmicro.com/techsup/win95.htm#sram which made the whole stu=
ff
work
with Win95 generic card drivers, so I quote it here to inform the list.=


Start of quote : ------------------------------------------------------=
----
---------------------------------------------------------------

SRAM and other Flash PC Cards

If Windows95 does not detect the PC Card, you can install the PC Card
manually.
This can be done under Add New Hardware in the Control Panel.
Under Windows 95, there is one Memory Technology Driver (MTD), which
consists
of a generic SRAM driver and two flash drivers, FLS1 and FLS2.

This assumes that the SRAM and Flash cards were formatted successfully =
at
some point in time.

If Windows95 does not assign a drive letter to your SRAM, follow the st=
eps
below;

(The following device drivers should be added to your config.sys file.)=


1.At C:\> prompt, type edit C:\config.sys=A0=A0=A0=A0 <enter>
2.Add the following two lines:
Device =3D C:\windows\system\csmapper.sys
Device =3D C:\windows\system\carddrv.exe /slot=3D1
(slot=3D1 is for one drive letter only. Use slot=3D2 to use both slots)=

3.If the manufacturer of your PC Card has provided a 16-bit DOS driver,=
 add
 it after the above two drivers.
4.Save your config.sys file, exit, and reboot your system.
5.Insert your SRAM or Flash card and a drive letter should be assigned =
to
it automatically.

End of quote : --------------------------------------------------------=
----
-------------------------------------------------------------

Sorry for the long message

Etienne
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I can not believe this.. I asked for help.. got none.. all the replies I got
were off list - me too's.. I am faced with the prospect of changing from my
trusty 200LX to a "CE" machine because ACT 4.0x no longer supports my LX.. I
posted earlier asking for help getting my ACT 4.0 data into my 200LX... either
in ACT for Palmtops 1.1.1 format, or barring that.. HP format.. no one helped
me.. now, since I get cranky if I can't carry it with.. my honey is urging me
to get a Sharp CE.. please help.

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the replies I got were off list - me too's.. I am faced with the prospect
of changing from my trusty 200LX to a &quot;CE&quot; machine because ACT
4.0x no longer supports my LX.. I posted earlier asking for help getting
my ACT 4.0 data into my 200LX... either in ACT for Palmtops 1.1.1 format,
or barring that.. HP format.. no one helped me.. now, since I get cranky
if I can't carry it with.. my honey is urging me to get a Sharp CE..
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I'm impressed, have been playing around with
Diet.

PCTOOLS.EXE before 170k
PCTOOLS.EXE after 104k

Haven't been able to discern any noticable
detriment in launch speed.

Now is there any programs to remove the
CGA colours in PC Tools, it is 98% usable
just a few text boxes that you have to guess at.

Liam

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>agree.  We owe the innovater a large debt of gratitude.  (I expect to
stay
>with my more modest 32 Meg unit for a while yet.)
>Cordially, Lynn M. Cavendish


Modest!......., and there isn't a hint of mine is bigger than yours in
that
statement is there <grin>.

best regards.....Liam

The inferior one with only 6 Mb  8-), as they say in Australia
Mate it's not the size but how you use it.

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At 06:30 PM 8/5/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi people;
>
>"I will not say again what I think about
>these prices. I guess many of the listees
>would agree."    Regards. Nacho.
>
>...but what can we do?
>didn't we few, we happy few, all pay
>$500 for 32MB?
>
>Guess they're wainting for us to pay again for 64MB.

Yep, and then possibly again for 128Mb. And maybe again for 256Mb...

This is marketing. I have my doubt whether it was not to be foreseen than
if 32Mb was possible, 64Mb would be possible as well. In my opinion, there
should be a reasonable upgrade policy. I ordered my 32Mb LX200 one month
ago. I feel I should at least have been informed that a 64Mb version was to
be expected soon. (Nah, you don't "invent" a 64Mb type and have it
available, PCBs ready, drivers ready, etc. within one month time). They
*knew* it! And if it is not going to be possible to upgrade recent 32Mb
versions to 64Mb for a price which in total doesn't exceed the cost for a
direct upgrade from 2Mb to 64Mb I feel somewhat being cheated. :-(

And I will likely get plenty of companion with these feelings. I don't care
too much about the prices. I'm a Palmtop freak, and I want to have
something special. This doesn't come for free, and I'm prepared to pay for
it. But I simply hate to buy the "best of the best" and then see that
almost immediately after this a sudden "unexpected" improvement is
announced, and that I end up with paying in total much more than when I
bought directly the final thing.

Have these guys ever considered a "most advanced model guarantee" where you
pay once for the service, and with later improvements just the costs of the
components etc.? Just like the fixed price for repairs?

For the moment, I will resort to a CF card if I run out of space.

Frans

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>>US$799.00.  Used like new 200lx 64MB 200LX at US$999.95.

>What a madness.
>I will not say again what I think about these prices. I guess many of
the
>listees would agree.Regards. Nacho.


It is subjective really, there market is very small and niche like,
with
the capabilities of DR DOS the HPLX 64 could probably blow
the CE machines right out of the water.  Plus the excellent DOS
legacy programs available.

When I think what I used to achieve on an XT with twin 720k floppies
(no hard drive) 640k Ram and the excellent {COMMO} communications
program (38k!! with scripting, little bit more with Zmodem). With a
QWK mail reader it was magic.

WYSIWYG has a lot to answer for.....just look at the size of Winfax
PRO then some of the DOS fax programs on the SUPER site.

Hope many fruitless hours are wasted by people in business
creating learning the complexity of any many features of WORD,
EXCEL.

Regards....Liam

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On  5 Aug 98 at 11:42, Phil WHORTON wrote:
Not at all. I get the connection with Filler and conectivity pack
but not with LL3.


> Has anyone had any success using the IR port under DOS? I'm trying to use Laplink 3 (great program, not too big, handles 115,000......) without any success.
ݨs


Eduardo Cesana

ECOLOGICA Tecnologia & Controle Ambiental Ltda
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28m44s ago ...
On Thu,  6 Aug 1998 13:24:27 +0200 (CEST), Frans Veldman wrote:

> But I simply hate to buy the "best of the best" and then see that
> almost immediately after this a sudden "unexpected" improvement is
> announced, and that I end up with paying in total much more than when I
> bought directly the final thing.

I felt the same way when I laid out all that money for my
top-of-the-line Sony ES Dolby Pro-Logic receiver. Now wouldn't you know
it, they have this new full-range 5.1 Dolby system that even has its
own track on the new DVDs! You can't get the best sound unless you have
this. I wonder if Sony will give me a price break or a nice trade-up
allowance on some new gear? Well of course they won't! They want to
make money just the same as the guys doing 200LX memory upgrades. There
are so few vendors supporting our platform of choice these days that I
think we should be happy to have them and not begrudge the profits they
make from our desire to have the best, biggest and fastest 200LX
around. My $.02...

Anxiously awaiting my 64MB DS 200LX,

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Take your "Honey's advice" and get a CE unit if you want the synchronization
capability. But don't get a Sharp Mobilon - they're junk and the 4500/4600
has only 1.5 - 2.0 hours battery life. Performance when the soft modem is in
use is a DOOOGGGG!!

The HP620 and 660LX get 5-6 hours battery life, have a great deal more
software built-in, and HP's Tech Support puts Sharp to shame.
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    I can not believe this.. I asked for help.. got none.. all the replies I
got were off list - me too's.. I am faced with the prospect of changing from
my trusty 200LX to a "CE" machine because ACT 4.0x no longer supports my
LX.. I posted earlier asking for help getting my ACT 4.0 data into my
200LX... either in ACT for Palmtops 1.1.1 format, or barring that.. HP
format.. no one helped me.. now, since I get cranky if I can't carry it
with.. my honey is urging me to get a Sharp CE.. please help.


    Arbitrary Design & Publication = Tonia Sams = Your discount magazine
source.  http://www.members.home.net/maglady/     Please note new address.
Just ask to be on my mailing list at mailto:maglady@home.com  July specials
= American Homestyle & Garden 2 yrs for $7.50, PC Magazine 1 yr $7.75.  Just
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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 14:39:45 +0200
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              Frans Veldman <veldman@KNOWARE.NL>
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Today I tried opening my old HP200LX palmtop. I discovered the screws under
the rubber feet, and got pretty far in opening the whole thing. Except that
under the comma key both halfs remain firmley attached. I tried everything
possible, but it just doesn't give way. What's the big secret here?

(Reason for opening: I want to investigate how the power supply/charger
works, see if it can be improved, and see if it is possible in a nice way
to feed the palmtop on 3 Volt solar cells with a size not exceeding the
cover).

Thanks in advance for some hints,
Frans

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 21:50:06 +0900
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              Kitakubo Kazuto <kitakubo@PTC.SONY.CO.JP>
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Hi! Frans,

>Today I tried opening my old HP200LX palmtop. I discovered the screws under
>the rubber feet, and got pretty far in opening the whole thing. Except that
>under the comma key both halfs remain firmley attached. I tried everything
>possible, but it just doesn't give way. What's the big secret here?

I always insert credit card and then twist it.

Best Regards,
---
Kazuto Kitakubo

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 12:51:39 +0000
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              Mikhail Epelbaum <mepelbaum@ATTCANADA.NET>
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> I can not believe this.. I asked for help.. got none.. all the replies =
I got
> were off list - me too's.. I am faced with the prospect of changing =
from my
> trusty 200LX to a "CE" machine because ACT 4.0x no longer supports my =
LX.. I
> posted earlier asking for help getting my ACT 4.0 data into my 200LX... =
either
> in ACT for Palmtops 1.1.1 format, or barring that.. HP format.. no one =
helped
> me.. now, since I get cranky if I can't carry it with.. my honey is =
urging me
> to get a Sharp CE.. please help.
>

Puma Intellisync might be able to move info without synchronization.

Mikhail

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Well it finally happened, the 14k4 PCMCIA modem I have been using
 has finally up and died (the same day I downloaded a trial version
of WWW/LX).

It had served me well in some most unusual situations, the reason
I favour PCMCIA ?  When coupled with a Konnex aucoustic coupler
you get _complete_ freedom and I have had strange looks sitting
in payphones with my road warrior kit, all I needed was the solar
panels and I'd be surfing the net till the cows come home.
Have had problems in noisy environments (airports, and noisy
delivery vans), but all in all the setup worked very well.

Now comes the difficult task of finding a suitable replacement which
won't drain the batteries faster than a short circuit, and for that I turn
to the list for advice and models which are still available since
everything
seems to be current hungry 56k beasts.

So what y'all using and what would you suggest I get for a replacement ?

(of course if anyone happens to have a spare one kicking around they
would part with...).

Thanks in advance.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 06:21:00 -0700
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              Dan Carrington <dc_grafx@MICROWORKS.NET>
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Well you're in luck at to where it will stop.  I seem to remember that the
palmtops processor has a built in limit as to how much memory it can address.
That is unless they figure a way to upgrade the processor????

Dan Carrington



Frans Veldman wrote:

> Yep, and then possibly again for 128Mb. And maybe again for 256Mb...
>
> This is marketing. I have my doubt whether it was not to be foreseen than
> if 32Mb was possible, 64Mb would be possible as well. In my opinion, there
> should be a reasonable upgrade policy. I ordered my 32Mb LX200 one month
> ago. I feel I should at least have been informed that a 64Mb version was to
> be expected soon. (Nah, you don't "invent" a 64Mb type and have it
> available, PCBs ready, drivers ready, etc. within one month time). They
> *knew* it! And if it is not going to be possible to upgrade recent 32Mb
> versions to 64Mb for a price which in total doesn't exceed the cost for a
> direct upgrade from 2Mb to 64Mb I feel somewhat being cheated. :-(
>
> And I will likely get plenty of companion with these feelings. I don't care
> too much about the prices. I'm a Palmtop freak, and I want to have
> something special. This doesn't come for free, and I'm prepared to pay for
> it. But I simply hate to buy the "best of the best" and then see that
> almost immediately after this a sudden "unexpected" improvement is
> announced, and that I end up with paying in total much more than when I
> bought directly the final thing.
>
> Have these guys ever considered a "most advanced model guarantee" where you
> pay once for the service, and with later improvements just the costs of the
> components etc.? Just like the fixed price for repairs?
>
> For the moment, I will resort to a CF card if I run out of space.
>
> Frans
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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 06:30:07 -0700
Reply-To:     "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@world.northgrum.com>
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On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Mitchell Hamm wrote:

> I felt the same way when I laid out all that money for my
> top-of-the-line Sony ES Dolby Pro-Logic receiver. Now wouldn't you know
> it, they have this new full-range 5.1 Dolby system that even has its
> own track on the new DVDs! You can't get the best sound unless you have
> this. I wonder if Sony will give me a price break or a nice trade-up
> allowance on some new gear? Well of course they won't! They want to
> make money just the same as the guys doing 200LX memory upgrades. There
> are so few vendors supporting our platform of choice these days that I
> think we should be happy to have them and not begrudge the profits they
> make from our desire to have the best, biggest and fastest 200LX
> around. My $.02...

I don't think the issue at hand is whether the vendor should make money or
not. The issue is timing. To sell a product such as the 32mb upgrade without
informing the buyer of a 64mb upgrade being available in a month smacks of
someone who's first concern is to reduce old inventory.

I agree as to not begrudging the few vendors supporting our platform for
making a profit.. as long as they likewise not try to piss off the few
customers they have by poor customer relations.  It doesn't cost a whole lot
to do a better job...

- Longden

PS I can't spare $.02 anymore <g>

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:37:54 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      PC boot up of CPACK

Morning list;

Booted up my PC this morning into DOS
then ran my CPACK and got msg:

APP200   CPACK200 TSR ALREADY LOADED APP200
CANNOT BE RUN        TYPE EXIT TO RETURN.
Typing EXIT doesn't do anything.  This happens
once in awile and eventually goes away.

ANYONE KNOW WHY?  I haven't loaded anything.
Rebooted and still the msg.  Finally gave up
and went to do email.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:29:51 -0500
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Subject:      Flash disk

Morning list
If your considering a flash disk.
here's a thought.

Get a Simple 64MB ATA flash.
It seems to be the best (now).
at $236 or less, its $4.19/MB.
That cheeper than any other one.

...also at 64MB you'll be ready for the
64MB C: when you upgrade :)  You know
how it is when yor C: is bigger than yor
backup :>   If not, yor BU will always
ATTIC storage space.

Of course more is better but the 80MB at
$344 is $4.30/MB.

Semper Mobilis,
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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 15:15:23 +0200
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              Frans Veldman <veldman@KNOWARE.NL>
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At 07:04 AM 8/6/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> But I simply hate to buy the "best of the best" and then see that
>> almost immediately after this a sudden "unexpected" improvement is
>> announced, and that I end up with paying in total much more than when I
>> bought directly the final thing.
>
>make money just the same as the guys doing 200LX memory upgrades. There
>are so few vendors supporting our platform of choice these days that I
>think we should be happy to have them and not begrudge the profits they
>make from our desire to have the best, biggest and fastest 200LX
>around. My $.02...

I don't begrudge the profits they make. I know they charge more than just a
small fee over the costs, and they can have it. The problem I have is to
give it to them *twice* in a month time. And I understand very well that
technique is developing very fast, and that ten years from now there might
be a palmtop which has a CMOS Pentium 800MHz inside, which runs on a tiny
solar cell, VGA resolution, a 8Gb ramdrive inside, in a case half the size
of the 200LX.

But to announce the 32Mb palmtop, selling it to some people, while
experimenting with a 64Mb version already, and not telling the customers
about it and not offering them a choice to either wait a month or going for
a reasonable upgrade scheme is a little too much.

>Anxiously awaiting my 64MB DS 200LX,

I expect a 128Mb version soon, and I've heard rumours that 256Mb is
possible too. And since these guys are not telling you honestly what's
going on, you'd better be a little patient unless you are willing to pay an
upgrade fee every month.

Frans

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:52:41 -0500
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:

> My solution to digital lines for the PBX at the Sheriff's Dept was to buy a
> line splitter for about $3.00. I simply plugged it into the back of one of
> the fax machines that aren't on the PBX and have a direct number. It's
> unobtrusive since it's out of sight, I plugged a short length of phone cable
> to it and just tuck it behind the fax machine. Whenever I come by the
> station to do paperwork or to take care of other business <grin/blush> I
> just remove the wire from behind the fax machine plug it into my X-Jack
> fire-up Goin' Postal and voila, in about 60 seconds or less I've snagged my
> email and news for reading and replying later in the evening.

Actually, I'm currently doing nearly the same thing--only the fax
machines where I work have phone lines that are easily accessible.
I simply unplug the cord from the fax and into my X-Jack for a minute,
dialup and download, and then replace the cord.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:04:13 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Wow! You got it workin' in Linux? Could you outline the steps taken to
make it run?

I got it working in 95 by using the steps below:

1.      Install card
2.      Boot 95
3.      Run "Add Hardware" from the Control Panel and have it search.
Reboot
4.      Go to the device manager and see that the "PCMCIA Controller" is
present
5.      Click on "PC Card" in the Control Panel and it says something
about upgrading drivers, blah, blah, 32-bit yadda yadda then reboot
again.
6.      Once booted,  I insert the flash card I get the familiar laptop
"B'Deep" and an explorer window pops up with the card file system. Piece
O' Cake...
7.      When I pull the card out it bellyaches about not telling it
first just like on a laptop... Fun stuff.




                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Al Kind mailto:MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Sent:   Wednesday, August 05, 1998 8:30 PM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        HPLX-L Fwd: Fwd: $10 NECX PCMCIA
Reader

                --- begin of forwarded message ---

                Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 15:55:50 -0700
                From: Philip Tait <pjt@phxase.allied.com>
                To: mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu
                Subject: Fwd: $10 NECX PCMCIA Reader


                I installed the card successfully on Red Hat Linux 5.1,
and was able to access
                a Simple Technologies 8Mbyte flash card.

                The installation procedure given on the SCM Technologies
Web site worked
                for Windows 95, but W95 could not mount the flash card.
Any ideas?

                Philip J. Tait.....AlliedSignal Engines, Phoenix,
Az.....pjt@phxase.allied.com


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              Chris Hoover <choover@IDEATANK.COM>
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Find a very complete hardware store. (The one here in Colorado is
McGuckins) In the screwdriver aisle, there is a possibility of finding a
screwdriver set.  I don't remember the exact name, but it is basically a
driver and set of bits for screwheads that are non standard. Regular blades
with a plug in the center, pentagonal ones, etc.  I'm not sure it has a Y
head, but that would be the best bet I could come up with.

Chris

The future masters of technology will
have to be lighthearted and intelligent.
The machine easily masters the grim and the dumb.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:20:43 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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If anything, these guys screwed up. I was ready to buy the 32 and didn't
because I saw what happened. Now I'm just gonna keep waiting...If the 64
MB upgrade is top dog for a year then I'll jump in the water.

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Frans Veldman mailto:veldman@KNOWARE.NL
                Sent:   Thursday, August 06, 1998 9:15 AM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        Re: HPLX-L Memory upgrades




                At 07:04 AM 8/6/98 -0500, you wrote:
                                >> But I simply hate to buy the "best of
the best" and then see that
                                >> almost immediately after this a
sudden "unexpected" improvement is
                                >> announced, and that I end up with
paying in total much more than when I
                                >> bought directly the final thing.
                        >
                        >make money just the same as the guys doing
200LX memory upgrades. There
                        >are so few vendors supporting our platform of
choice these days that I
                        >think we should be happy to have them and not
begrudge the profits they
                        >make from our desire to have the best, biggest
and fastest 200LX
                        >around. My $.02...

                I don't begrudge the profits they make. I know they
charge more than just a small fee over the costs, and they can have it.
The problem I have is to give it to them *twice* in a month time. And I
understand very well that technique is developing very fast, and that
ten years from now there might be a palmtop which has a CMOS Pentium
800MHz inside, which runs on a tiny solar cell, VGA resolution, a 8Gb
ramdrive inside, in a case half the size of the 200LX.
                But to announce the 32Mb palmtop, selling it to some
people, while experimenting with a 64Mb version already, and not telling
the customers about it and not offering them a choice to either wait a
month or going for a reasonable upgrade scheme is a little too much.
                        >Anxiously awaiting my 64MB DS 200LX,

                I expect a 128Mb version soon, and I've heard rumours
that 256Mb is possible too. And since these guys are not telling you
honestly what's going on, you'd better be a little patient unless you
are willing to pay an upgrade fee every month.
                Frans

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:30:35 -0500
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Hi

"the capabilities of DR DOS the HPLX 64
could probably blow the CE machines right
out of the water.  Plus the excellent DOS
legacy programs available."   Liam

I would like to think yor right....but
people don't wanna learn, ergo windows
is here.

Better a better LX than a better CE.

Semper Mobilis,
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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:33:47 -0600
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I don't think a hard reset will do it but certainly give it a try after
backing up (Incidentally, you can hard reset by pressing <ctl>+<on>+<>(the
gold shift key).

Does the 200lx still discharge when it is turned off as well? Look for
battery gunk on the connectors and clean if so. If that doesn't fix it you
may be looking at pulling it apart if you feel comfortable with that.

Cheers,
Mike.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:46:46 -0500
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12m49s ago ...
On Thu,  6 Aug 1998 10:20:47 -0400, Ed Padin wrote:

> If anything, these guys screwed up. I was ready to buy the 32 and =
didn't
> because I saw what happened. Now I'm just gonna keep waiting...If the =
64
> MB upgrade is top dog for a year then I'll jump in the water.

I might have a bit more sympathy for the argument that the vendors
didn't inform us of a 64MB upgrade IF the upgrades were the same cost
or even close to the same cost, but they're not. The 32MB is $499 and
the 64MB is $799. Granted, some may not care about the money and want
the most internal memory available. In this case, it's a marketing
screwup. Not because the vendors slighted us so much as they slighted
themselves. Some customers would have opted for the 64MB instead and
the vendors would have made just as much or maybe more money. The 64MB
upgrade has not obsoleted the 32MB upgrade. Both are very viable
alternatives to those of us who want to ditch flash cards and have the
high speed of the internal drive.

Finally, knowing Mack B. and the guys at Thaddeus, I really can't see
them refusing to negotiate with someone who is in the "just purchased a
32MB, but wants a 64MB now that it's available" situation. Give them a
call or an email and see what their position is. It never hurts to ask.
They can't eat you or take your birthday away. :)

Mitch
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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:41:46 +800
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Hi,
First a big public thanks to Al for working to solve a problem I had
with list reception. He has been unfailingly courtious and prompt
in dealing with "one of the slower ones."
Now, I have been trying to ger the Andrew3 font to load up, but get an
"odd fontsize" error message. If loaded from the dos prompt mem/c shows
it loaded but fonts stay the same. I use FCLDL with JiniFont
successfully. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

Hopefully,

Paul


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I'll try asking the list...

1) Does anyone know if there is a list of the exit codes produced by PGP
2.6.2 for various error conditions?

2) Does anyone know if there is a recommended way of verifying a correctly
entered passphrase, other than attempting to sign a dummy file and
checking for one of the above unlisted error codes?

3) How are public keys typically gathered and entered into PGP?  Not "how
do you add a public key to pgp", but "how does a regular pgp user tend to
be presented a key which they will want to add to their public keyring"?

4) I know there are export controls on PGP, but is anyone aware of any
controls on shell programs that invoke a cypher program like PGP (I
wouldn't think so, but it *is* the government...)

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 15:03:25 GMT
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On Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:46:46 -0500, you wrote:
Then how about us guys that just got our 8 meg upgrade for about the same=
 bucks as the=20
32 meg...=20
Should we send it back with more bucks for the larger memory or just be =
happy with the extra we now have
over the 1 meg we had...
Dean  W5GXL

>12m49s ago ...
>On Thu,  6 Aug 1998 10:20:47 -0400, Ed Padin wrote:
>
>> If anything, these guys screwed up. I was ready to buy the 32 and =
didn't
>> because I saw what happened. Now I'm just gonna keep waiting...If the =
64
>> MB upgrade is top dog for a year then I'll jump in the water.
>
>I might have a bit more sympathy for the argument that the vendors
>didn't inform us of a 64MB upgrade IF the upgrades were the same cost
>or even close to the same cost, but they're not. The 32MB is $499 and
>the 64MB is $799. Granted, some may not care about the money and want
>the most internal memory available. In this case, it's a marketing
>screwup. Not because the vendors slighted us so much as they slighted
>themselves. Some customers would have opted for the 64MB instead and
>the vendors would have made just as much or maybe more money. The 64MB
>upgrade has not obsoleted the 32MB upgrade. Both are very viable
>alternatives to those of us who want to ditch flash cards and have the
>high speed of the internal drive.
>
>Finally, knowing Mack B. and the guys at Thaddeus, I really can't see
>them refusing to negotiate with someone who is in the "just purchased a
>32MB, but wants a 64MB now that it's available" situation. Give them a
>call or an email and see what their position is. It never hurts to ask.
>They can't eat you or take your birthday away. :)
>
>Mitch
>S.U.P.E.R. Team
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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:28:20 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Frans Veldman wrote:

> I expect a 128Mb version soon, and I've heard rumours that 256Mb is
> possible too. And since these guys are not telling you honestly what's
> going on, you'd better be a little patient unless you are willing to pay an
> upgrade fee every month.

I believe that the maximum internal RAM the 200LX can address is 128MB...
correct me if I am wrong.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 11:36:28 -0400
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Ok, as long a people are venting about pet peeves today, I'll put my $.02 in
on another subject.  If you have an HP200lx and want / need to sync it with
Outlook98 you are out of luck for the most part.  Sure, there is a
spreadsheet solution which is one way, and cumbersome to say the least.
Since the folks at Puma Technology obviously have the technology in house to
sync Palm Pilots etc with Outlook98, why can't they merge that technology
with what they also have for the 200lx and give us a method of syncing the
200lx with Outlook98.  I am sure I am not the only one who would like a
solution to this problem, someone mentioned ACT 4.0 to the 200lx, they
should be able to provide that capability also.

It would seem to me that with all of the modular technology in programming
today, that it would be a relatively easy task to merge the code that reads
and writes to the 200lx with the code that reads and writes to Outlook98 and
give those of us who don't want to move to a larger CE handheld a tool we
could really use.   I bought my 200lx for a couple of very simple reasons,
battery life and size.  I like being able to fit the 200lx in a pocket so it
is handy where ever I go, not to mention 6 weeks or more on a set of
batteries.

I don't really want to reinvent the wheel here, but I need to be able to
sync up with Outlook98.  If I have to do this myself I will, but I would
much rather pay for an upgrade to Intellisync than buy the SDK for the 200lx
and the Microsoft development tools and spend many hours developing a
solution to this problem.  Is anyone else out there interested in this
capability

John Guenther

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:33:04 -0700
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On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Frans Veldman wrote:

> And since these guys are not telling you honestly what's going on

Hmm... this is an unusual case.  I know of several times back in Jan / Feb
when people sent their palmtops in for an 8MB upgrade and were informed of
the upcoming 32MB upgrade and asked if they wanted to go with that
instead.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:21:03 +800
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On 1998-08-06 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
   >Well it finally happened, the 14k4 PCMCIA modem I have been using
   >has finally up and died (the same day I downloaded a trial version
   >of WWW/LX).
   >So what y'all using and what would you suggest I get for a
   >replacement ?
   >(of course if anyone happens to have a spare one kicking around they
   >would part with...).
   >Thanks in advance.

Well, Frys was selling Creative Modem blasters for $14.99us a few weeks
ago. I bought one and it has worked well for me. You might find one
auctioned on E-bay or another auction site.

Happy hunting,

Paul



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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 12:51:43 -0400
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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>Yes! Some time ago David Becher <davidb@netmedia.net.il> posted the
>best tip that I've seen and it easy too. I have it on hard copy so give
>me a few and I'll re-key in email.

As promised here is the re-type:

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Running LapLink remote access in a Windows 95 DOS box.  So here goes ...

I am going to assume that you already have LapLink remote access installed
in your desktop in a directory which I will call C:\HP200.  I also assume
that when not in the Windows 95 GUI (ie under DOS) that you have it set up
and working, and the name of the batch file that starts up LapLink is
LLRA.BAT. If you need more information on how to do this just look up the
SUPER site under "Hacking with Jorgen".

1. using Notepad or a suitable text editor, create a batch file, which we
   will call LLRAWIN.BAT containing the following line:

   command /k llra.bat

2. Save the file in your LapLink directory (C:\HP200)

3. Using Windows Explorer or "My computer" go into the LapLink
   directory and highlight the new file LLRAWIN.BAT. Click on the right
button
   of your mouse and select the item "Create A Shortcut" from the pop up menu.

4. Now highlight the created shortcut, and once again click on the
   right button and this time select "Properties" from the menu.

   Under the "Program" Tab click on the "Advanced" Button.  In the "Advanced"
   window make sure that the item "Prevent MS-DOS-based programs from
detecting
   Windows" and "Suggest MS-DOS mode as necessary" are both clicked
   (I'm pretty sure that the second one is not vital). Click on the "OK"
button.

   Click on the "Screen" Tab and make sure that Window is selected.
   I also have it set for an initial size of 50 lines. I have all the other
items in
   this window also checked.

   In the "Misc" tab I have selected "Warn if still active".
   Click on OK to close the dialog box.  I have then dragged the shortcut
onto my         desktop to keep it handy.

   Having done all this, how does it work?  I connect my palmtop to the
desktop
   with the cable, start up LapLink on the palmtop and then double click on
the
   shortcut to start it up.  After a couple of seconds I hear the toodle tone
   from both computers and I am connected.  Inside the DOS box I can use the
   command line, or Norton commander are any DOS program to access my
palmtop.

   I can also run a batch file to back up my palmtop using PKZIP or any of its
   cousins as the palmtop appears inside this window as drives G: H: etc
   (in my case).  When I have finished, I type "exit" inside the DOS BOX.
   I then get a  message inside the box saying that my TSR is now ready to
run and
   that I should press CTRL C to exit it.  Typing CTRL C will then close
the DOS box.

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At 09:21 AM 8/6/98 +800, you wrote:

>Well, Frys was selling Creative Modem blasters for $14.99us a few weeks
>ago. I bought one and it has worked well for me. You might find one
>auctioned on E-bay or another auction site.

Hi Paul,

What FRYS was that?
Manhattan Beach , Ca maybe!

Boy! $14.95. The Ultimate Summer 1998 Palmtop Catalog (Thaddeus Computing)
page 15
has them advertised for $69.95. Go figure!

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Date:         Tue, 4 Aug 1998 13:38:11 -0500
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>                             Size       Time to
>                              bytes      Load
>Not compressed     76288     1.4 sec
> Compress with:
>  diet                     42466     3.6 sec
>  lzexe                   42971     2.2 sec
>  pklite                  41382     2.2 sec
>  tinyprog              43344     2.6 sec

>So I am going to uncompress a few of my most used
>DOS programs and avoid using diet for this purpose.

I've been using Diet since I first got my 200LX about a year ago, and I've
tried PKLite and Diet, and I've come to the conclusion that Diet, overall,
does better compression, compresses MUCH faster, and while I've never timed
decompression I cannot immagine that PKLite could be much faster, as usually
there is no delay.

Morever, Diet allows compression of data files, and upon loading Diet resident
it automatically decompresses and recompresses the files.  Sure, Jam/Stacker
does the same, but you don't *have* to have their 40-50k driver loaded all the
time, and there isn't a specific amount of disk space dedicated either.  Also,
Diet will UNcompress files, I don't believe PKLite can.  Also, Diet is *much*
*much* faster at compressing files than PKLite is.

Not that I need to sell Diet on anyone, but I've just found it works much
better for me than PKLite, but do try both and find out.  :)

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Frans Veldman <veldman@KNOWARE.NL> wrote:
> But to announce the 32Mb palmtop, selling it to some people, while
> experimenting with a 64Mb version already, and not telling the customers
> about it and not offering them a choice to either wait a month or going for
> a reasonable upgrade scheme is a little too much.

Hello?  This isn't about having the biggest, it's about having a tool
that gets the job done.  If 32MB would work for you a month ago,
chances are it'll still work today and you don't need the 64MB...yet.
So save your money, keep using your 32MB unit, and when it's apparent
that you really do/will soon need more fast storage you buy what you
makes those most sense for you then.

And don't forget that if it's just space you need, it will probably be
cheaper if you buy it on a PCMCIA card.  Seriously, these upgrades are
for space and time: the RAM upgrades provide faster disk space (and
EMS if you're into that sort of thing) than do flash EEPROM cards.

-Frank McConnell

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I am just getting *back* to my HP200LX after some time of various
infidelity (let's see WinCE 1.0HPC, Newton, PalmIII, WinCE2HPC, currently
Phillips Nino), and one thing that made me leave was the lack of
synchronization to Lotus Notes.  However, the compelling features - PIM
apps, calculator, DOS, size (really no bigger than the Nino...) and battery
life (WinCE people are recharger freaks, even without any PC Cards...) -
were too much to ignore.  I am trying to set up a work-around system now.

Puma appears to have a core strategy right now that is focused on three
legs:  IntelliSync for Notebooks, WinCE and Pilot.  All others are
secondary, including the HP200LX.  I couldn't get commitment on this, but
the economics are rather obvious.

The core Intellisync for Notebooks allows you to do many things, and I have
the version that came on my Libretto hooked into my desktop to synchonize
my programming files, so I can then maintain 3 copies (laptop, desktop, Jaz
drive).  It also allows PIM to PIM synchronization.  By upgrading to
version 1.6 (about a week released) you get to sync to Outlook 98, Act 4,
and (of course) Notes.  So, the theory from Puma is that I use the 'mature'
Intellisync for HP200LX to sync to something like Schedule+, then use the
'fresh' Intellisync for Notebooks to sync Schedule+ to Lotus Notes.  I can
schedule the processes to occur whenever I want, so it shouldn't be an
issue.  I ordered the two Intellisyncs (the 200LX and the upgrade to1.6),
and will try it when they arrive.

I'll let you know how it goes...

I think that the reality is that the 200LX platform, while not dead, is not
obtaining significant mindshare in the frenetic CE/Pilot race.  So I
believe we have to be a bit more patient and creative.  I would much rather
do a double sync to use my HP200LX, and even have to use Lotus Organizer,
than have a direct sync to the HP620LX...

Mike

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:59:11 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Fwd: FS:  Megahertz Xjack PCMCIA  14.4 Data/Fax Modems
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For anybody looking for a cheap 14.4 modem. Just found this post on the
NG.

Good Luck!


--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 20:16:58 -0500
From: kento@eznet.net (Kento)
Subject: FS:  Megahertz Xjack PCMCIA  14.4 Data/Fax Modems

8/5/98
FS: (466) Megahertz GOLD series PCMCIA  14.4 Data/Fax Modems $21.70 each

PC Card Modem Specs:
-Model# XJ 2144  ( XJ2144 )
-PCMCIA
-Megahertz PCMCIA Gold Series
-XJack allows the use of a standard telephone cable that connects the
modem to the wall jack
-14,400 / 14,400 speeds for Modem / Fax
-Low current drain
-Works on many palmtops, including the HP200LX
-No software comes with this. Most systems recognize the modem automatical=
ly
-These modems were pulled from laptops that were upgraded to faster
modems. All the modems are in mint condition, they do not look like they
were used.
-While supplies last, these modems come with a jewel case made
specifically for this PCMCIA card modem

I  warranty the modems  for 30 days. If you are not satisfied within 30
days, return it and I will gladly refund your money (minus shipping).

DEALERS: Bulk orders always get a better price. Make an offer!


As far as your compatibility issues, I may not know about your specific
system or platform. There are just too many exceptions for me to guarantee
compatibility beyond the basic specs listed.  The best I can offer my
customers is that you try it out and if it doesn't work to your
satisfaction, return it and I will refund your money (minus shipping).
This no hassles return policy is in exchange for no tech support.

Go Here for Shipping and Payment Options:
http://home.eznet.net/~kento/ship_pay.html


Email me (see below) and I will send you my phone number and my address.

Thanks in Advance!
Kento
Email:
kento@eznet.net
Kento's web page:
http://home.eznet.net/~kento

--
Kento
kento@eznet.net
"Know Thyself" - Socrates

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Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.1.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Well, Well! Here ia another post found, the NG's are sure hot today.
Good Luck!

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From: jon41ny@aol.com (JON41NY)
Subject: pcmcia modems $20 yes $20
Date: 6 Aug 1998 02:08:29 GMT

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        EMAIL ADDRESS: jon41ny@aol.com        MC/VISA/AX/DINNERS CLUB    =



I have 15PCS of APEX Brand 14.4/14.4 Data/Fax PCMCIA Modems. They are =
-New-
and complete with cable and all drivers needed. The Model # is ST1414L. =
They
work with
with all laptops and Palmtops. I am selling them for $19.99 each. Contact =
me
early
because these will sell -FAST-. Bulk offers are always welcome.

Shipping is $3 Per Order No Matter How Many You Order
COD $4.75 (We require MO/CASH on COD-s (If you want to pay by check CALL =
US)
If you want to PREPAY send your MO/Check (We Ship Same Day Even With =
Checks)
Credit Card Orders (Save COD Fee) Email/Fax Or Call in CC # And Exp Date =
on CC
Warranty is 30 Days (Minus Shipping)

DARTFORD TRADING GROUP 146 HALSTEAD ST # 114 ROCHESTER NY 14610
 WORLDWIDE ORDERS 716-739-1770                             FAX LINE
716-288-1061
                              TOLL FREE 1-888-256-8820 (US & CANADA)
        EMAIL ADDRESS: jon41ny@aol.com

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Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.1.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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You can get version 5 for DOS.  Try www.activeware.com.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 13:39:36 -0500
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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: Tinyprog, Diet, PKZIP, et al
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On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Walter R Francis wrote:
> Morever, Diet allows compression of data files, and upon loading Diet
> resident it automatically decompresses and recompresses the files.
>
Another plus which maybe isn't clearly implied here is that you can unload
the driver.  I have some batch files which load DIET, then load the
program (which uses DIETed data files), then unload DIET.  It's invisible
as far as I can tell.

> Also, Diet will UNcompress files, I don't believe PKLite can.
>
This is a very nice feature, since some programs don't like to be
compressed for various reasons.  If I run into a problem, I just type,
"diet -ra filename" and it's like I never touched it.

I'm tempted by LZEXE based on the speed tests posted recently, but since I
really don't notice a delay in loading files, I'll probably stick to DIET
for most things.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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Hello.
Hate to be the source of bad news, but I had a similar problem, and the
solution was a new motherboard courtesy Times2Tech ($125).  As someone
else stated, at least it gives you a good excuse to upgrade (the speed at
the very least).

Hope it's something cheaper...
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 12:09:57 -0700
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Subject:      Re: My trusty PCMCIA modem has died. Help me find a new one ?
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It was written: On 1998-08-06
>Well it finally happened, the 14k4 PCMCIA modem I have been using
>has finally up and died


I was at future shop sunday and saw a
"Data Traveler 33.6" cellular ready pcmcia modem for $169.00
It has its own battery pack to reduce drain on the Palmtop's battery.
It stated it can be powered down to save even more power

AND it listed the Hp200lx as a supported computer right on the box.
I don't need a modem at this point and couldn't justify spending the money
right now but it is on my list.



Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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I would much rather do a double sync to use my HP200LX, and even have to use Lotus Organizer,
than have a direct sync to the HP620LX...

Bernard Torbik
That is decidedly a matter of opinion. Who even uses Lotus Organizer anymore instead of Outlook or Goldmine?

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              Paulo Sergio Custodio <Paulo.Custodio@SSD.ALCATEL.PT>
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Larry Zimmerman wrote:
>
> I've got a bunch of Perl scripts I use on the desktop to process
> different kinds of text documents.  Our desktops run Perl 5.05 and Perl
> 5.4 (Win32).  I've tried version 4.xx found on the SUPER site but none of
> the scripts seem to work.  Before I waste a ton of time walking through
> each one to "backdate" the syntax, is there a FAQ somewhere that explains
> the differences between the versions?

It is not a question of Syntax. Perl 5 has a huge amount of new features
that are just not available in Perl 4. It's a kind off trying to
backdate the C++ syntax to C.

The upgrade from perl 4 to 5 is easier: just run perl -w, and it tells
you all you have to change (mainly @ in quoted strings).

Paulo

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 21:16:37 +0200
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              Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
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> I don't really want to reinvent the wheel here, but I need to be able to
> sync up with Outlook98.  If I have to do this myself I will, but I would
> much rather pay for an upgrade to Intellisync than buy the SDK for the
200lx
> and the Microsoft development tools and spend many hours developing a
> solution to this problem.  Is anyone else out there interested in this
> capability
>
> John Guenther

Yes!
I am willing to pay $250,- for S/W that would do this. I might even be
persuaded to lay down the cash in advance if someone promised to do the
job!
What we need is a bit of the Linux spirit here, folks!

How about it, anyone want to follow my lead?

Paul Rasmussen

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 15:51:43 EDT
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              "Daniel Z. Sands" <dsands@BIDMC.HARVARD.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: Synchronization

In my organization there is a commitment to Lotus Notes as a messaging and
directory backbone.  Notes group scheduling is the rule (although many
aren't yet using it).  The organization also supports PalmPilots, to some
extent.

If one uses Notes for scheduling, the user interface and features are
fairly poor.  Also, native Notes scheduling doesn't download/sync with
much of anything.

If you use Organizer 97 GS, it provides a nice UI, good import/export/sync
features, and automatically links with Notes mail and scheduling (it reads
the same files and syncs with the same server).

I do agree that the double syncing seems cumbersome, but I'm interested
to see if it works.  I personally re-enter my invitations into my LX.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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> I would much rather do a double sync to use my HP200LX, and even have to
> use Lotus Organizer, than have a direct sync to the HP620LX...
>
> Bernard Torbik
> That is decidedly a matter of opinion. Who even uses Lotus Organizer
> anymore instead of Outlook or Goldmine?

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Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Fwd: Fwd: $10 NECX PCMCIA Reader

> Wow! You got it workin' in Linux? Could you outline the steps taken to
> make it run?
>
> I got it working in 95 by using the steps below:
> ...
> 7.      When I pull the card out it bellyaches about not telling it
> first just like on a laptop... Fun stuff.
>

With a storage card you really should stop the card BEFORE you remove
it so that the OS can flush the buffers that may contain valid data
to be written to the card. Worse case you could trash the directory
structure or the FAT and not be able to access anything on the card.
Not stopping the card is the same as turning off your computer
without shutting down the OS correctly, while this was ok with a
simple OS like DOS the more complex the OS the more likely a problem
will occur. The easiest thing to do is to go to control panel /
pcmcia and check the box that says show icon on taskbar. Then before
you remove a card just click the icon and a choice to stop the card
comes up, pick that and wait a few seconds until it says you can
remove the card. A little extra effort but it may save you some lost
data in the future.

This procedure applies to a laptop with pcmcia and it also applies to
non-storage cards as well. Things like network cards and modems need
to be shut down so that the services that were started when they were
plugged in can be correctly shut down. These instructions also apply
to any complex OS, including Linux. It has a stop procedure for cards
just like win95.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: Fwd: pcmcia modems $20 yes $20

> Well, Well! Here ia another post found, the NG's are sure hot today.
> Good Luck!
>
> --- begin of forwarded message ---
>
> From: jon41ny@aol.com (JON41NY)
> Subject: pcmcia modems $20 yes $20
> Date: 6 Aug 1998 02:08:29 GMT
>
> DARTFORD TRADING GROUP 146 HALSTEAD ST # 114 ROCHESTER NY 14610
>  WORLDWIDE ORDERS 716-739-1770                             FAX LINE
> 716-288-1061
>                               TOLL FREE 1-888-256-8820 (US & CANADA)
>         EMAIL ADDRESS: jon41ny@aol.com        MC/VISA/AX/DINNERS CLUB
>

Can't say anything about the modems but I have had good dealings with
this company, they are the ones selling the wireless lan cards.
Several others have purchased from them as well and I have yet to
hear any complaints.

Pete

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Frans et all,

        Did you think to ask them if there were any larger upgrades in the near
future?  I know from personal experience that the answer would have been
yes, are you interested in a larger amount of memory?  Mac is not
cheating the palmtop community or trying to dispose of old inventory as
another list member assumed (why would a 32 meg upgrade be obsolete and
need to be liquidated anyway?).  It takes time to develop and beta test
a product.  The release date is not always known before hand.
        IT REALLY PISSES ME OF WHEN THE PEOPLE ON THIS LIST START ATTACKING ONE
OF THE FEW HONEST PEOPLE THAT CHOOSE TO SUPPORT OUR BELOVED PALMTOP!  IS
this the way you folks deal with others?  I sometimes wonder about the
inner thoughts of people that expect that everyone else is shafting
them.  Perhaps the folks that think this way, do so because this is how
they secretly treat others.  If this seems like a personal attack on any
of you, perhaps it should be a wake up call.  Think about it.  Mac does
not deserve to be attacked for his business ethics.

Rant mode off,

Colin Thompson

Frans Veldman wrote:

> >Guess they're wainting for us to pay again for 64MB.
>
> Yep, and then possibly again for 128Mb. And maybe again for 256Mb...
>
> This is marketing. I have my doubt whether it was not to be foreseen than
> if 32Mb was possible, 64Mb would be possible as well. In my opinion, there
> should be a reasonable upgrade policy. I ordered my 32Mb LX200 one month
> ago. I feel I should at least have been informed that a 64Mb version was to
> be expected soon. (Nah, you don't "invent" a 64Mb type and have it
> available, PCBs ready, drivers ready, etc. within one month time). They
> *knew* it! And if it is not going to be possible to upgrade recent 32Mb
> versions to 64Mb for a price which in total doesn't exceed the cost for a
> direct upgrade from 2Mb to 64Mb I feel somewhat being cheated. :-(
>
> And I will likely get plenty of companion with these feelings. I don't care
> too much about the prices. I'm a Palmtop freak, and I want to have
> something special. This doesn't come for free, and I'm prepared to pay for
> it. But I simply hate to buy the "best of the best" and then see that
> almost immediately after this a sudden "unexpected" improvement is
> announced, and that I end up with paying in total much more than when I
> bought directly the final thing.
>
>

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Subject:      Re: Syncing the Hp200lx with Outlook98

Hey guy,
Here's my three cents.

Why they don't waannna sync with us.
What do they get outta the deal???

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Subject:      NECX PCMCIA card does work with NT4.0, boot pcmcia.sys, ata.sys
Comments: To: Philip Tait <pjt@phxase.allied.com>
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I looked this up and the NECX PCMCIA card reader works great under
NT 4.0.

This is what it says, after rebooting, it works just great. I might just
spring $85 to get the hot swap, it's really a pain to have to get the
card back in to enter stuff into quicken and have to reboot.
Everthing else is on the connectivity pack. BTW, has anyone
figured out a way to run ROM quicken on the desktop? Is there a
way to read the ROM?

----------------------------------------

http://www.scmmicro.com/techsup/winNT40.htm

If you installed the SwapBox in your system after you installed
Windows NT, the PCMCIA.sys device driver will not be installed at
boot time. It will be disabled. To correct this, click the Control
Panel icon, then click the Devices icon to change the startup of the
PCMCIA.sys (for the ISA controller card) and Atdisk.sys (for
ATA-Drives or ATA-Flash cards) drivers to Boot. The system then
needs
to be restarted for the changes to take effect.  Click the Services
icon to change the Plug and Play startup to Automatic. Reboot the
computer for the changes to take effect.

SystemSoft Corporation has a software utility for Windows NT 4.0
which adds hot swapping capability to your PC. Go to SystemSoft

CardWizard 4.1 delivers improved PC Card support that includes the
following: Enables hot swapping (hot insertion/hot removal) of ATA,
Combo, Flash, ISDN, Modem, Multifunction, Network, Serial I/O,
SRAM,
and Zoomed Video cards. SCSI and Specialty cards are supported
at
boot time.

CardWizard is available immediately at
http://www.systemsoft.com/catalog. CardWizard costs $79.95


Date sent:              Wed, 05 Aug 1998 14:58:10 -0700
From:                   Philip Tait <pjt@phxase.allied.com>
To:                     arthurhu@halcyon.com
Subject:                Re: NECX PCMCIA card no good under NT4.0

> Did you try these instructions?:
>
> http://www.scmmicro.com/techsup/winNT40.htm
>
> Arthur Hu wrote:
>
> > I tried out my NECX PCMCIA card reader under NT 4.0 since it's
> > got a PCMCIA thingy under "settings" too, but it doesn't work. Next
> > I'll have to try it on my win95 machines.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Philip J. Tait.....AlliedSignal Engines, Phoenix, Az.....pjt@phxase.allied.com
>
>
>

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Hey guy

Sorry to hear about the demise of your beloved.
I've got a SMART 14.4 with six MB mem to trade for
another LX toy?  I'd take a 20MB flash.

If that that doesn't help, try an I/O Data 20MB /14.4
modem memory card.

yor pal al...............................

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 15:25:47 -0600
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              Owen Kalau <owenk@CANUCK.COM>
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Hello. Wondering if anyone else has noticed this...

I have two versions of BananaCom: ver 2.0a, and 3.1a (lean).

My problem: when I run ver 2.0a, the cursor disappears. Not a big deal, but
annoying when you're running a text editor.

So, you say: "Run 3.1!"

Problem: it freezes for no reason from time to time, generally runs slower,
and demands that I register every 6 days.

So:

Does anyone know how to fix/get:
a) the cursor in 2.0
b) a newer/better/less annoying version

(and)/Or, would someone recommend a better program?

Thanks kindly.

Owen (no, the other one)

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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> Now is there any programs to remove the
> CGA colours in PC Tools, it is 98% usable
> just a few text boxes that you have to guess at.
>

I think a /bw on the command line or something similar will clear that
up.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 18:11:24 EDT
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              "Daniel Z. Sands" <dsands@BIDMC.HARVARD.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: NECX PCMCIA card does work with NT4.0, boot pcmcia.sys,
              ata.sys

I had a bad experience with Card Wizard and NT4.0 (with SP3).  Caused my
machine to lock up and show the blue screen of death.  No way out and had
to reinstall NT!

I then found similar software from Award (the BIOS people at
www.award.com) and it worked like a charm.

Incidentally, NT does not have the nice feature for removing PCMCIA cards
that purges the write cache.  You just need to wait until it's doen or
disable it.

NT 5 supposedly will handle all of this better.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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Text of message from arthurhu@HALCYON.COM, 6 Aug 1998, 05:45 PM
> I looked this up and the NECX PCMCIA card reader works great under
> NT 4.0.
>
> This is what it says, after rebooting, it works just great. I might just
> spring $85 to get the hot swap, it's really a pain to have to get the
> card back in to enter stuff into quicken and have to reboot.
> Everthing else is on the connectivity pack. BTW, has anyone
> figured out a way to run ROM quicken on the desktop? Is there a
> way to read the ROM?
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
> http://www.scmmicro.com/techsup/winNT40.htm
>
> If you installed the SwapBox in your system after you installed
> Windows NT, the PCMCIA.sys device driver will not be installed at
> boot time. It will be disabled. To correct this, click the Control
> Panel icon, then click the Devices icon to change the startup of the
> PCMCIA.sys (for the ISA controller card) and Atdisk.sys (for
> ATA-Drives or ATA-Flash cards) drivers to Boot. The system then
> needs
> to be restarted for the changes to take effect.  Click the Services
> icon to change the Plug and Play startup to Automatic. Reboot the
> computer for the changes to take effect.
>
> SystemSoft Corporation has a software utility for Windows NT 4.0
> which adds hot swapping capability to your PC. Go to SystemSoft
>
> CardWizard 4.1 delivers improved PC Card support that includes the
> following: Enables hot swapping (hot insertion/hot removal) of ATA,
> Combo, Flash, ISDN, Modem, Multifunction, Network, Serial I/O,
> SRAM,
> and Zoomed Video cards. SCSI and Specialty cards are supported
> at
> boot time.
>
> CardWizard is available immediately at
> http://www.systemsoft.com/catalog. CardWizard costs $79.95

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 15:12:02 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <da125010.35ca24a9@aol.com> from Al Chin at "Aug 6,
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> I've got a SMART 14.4 with six MB mem to trade for
> another LX toy?  I'd take a 20MB flash.

Isn't the SMART modem/memory a 14.4k FAX but 2400 data?  I have one
here that is.  Slow flash and modem, but *very* easy on the batteries.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 16:01:35 -0700
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              Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Synchronization
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Any BASIC programmers amoung us?  I would think that with VBA, VBScript
and LotusScript someone could write some tools.

On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Daniel Z. Sands wrote:

> In my organization there is a commitment to Lotus Notes as a messaging and
> directory backbone.  Notes group scheduling is the rule (although many
> aren't yet using it).  The organization also supports PalmPilots, to some
> extent.
>
> If one uses Notes for scheduling, the user interface and features are
> fairly poor.  Also, native Notes scheduling doesn't download/sync with
> much of anything.
>
> If you use Organizer 97 GS, it provides a nice UI, good import/export/sync
> features, and automatically links with Notes mail and scheduling (it reads
> the same files and syncs with the same server).
>
> I do agree that the double syncing seems cumbersome, but I'm interested
> to see if it works.  I personally re-enter my invitations into my LX.
>
> - Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
>   ___/    Center for Clinical Computing
>  (__      Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr / Harvard Medical School
>  ___)     V:(617)667-0010 F:(617)667-1002 clinquery.bidmc.harvard.edu
>
> Text of message from btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET, 6 Aug 1998, 03:17 PM
> > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDC134.F5602160
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > I would much rather do a double sync to use my HP200LX, and even have to
> > use Lotus Organizer, than have a direct sync to the HP620LX...
> >
> > Bernard Torbik
> > That is decidedly a matter of opinion. Who even uses Lotus Organizer
> > anymore instead of Outlook or Goldmine?
>
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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 18:37:05 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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From:         al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: BananaCom

Try a block CURSOR utility.

WordPerfect V1, or V4.0
WordStar 3.3
P.E. for LX.

all small word procesors.

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yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 18:40:41 -0500
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              Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Comments: To: owenk@CANUCK.COM

On 08-06 04:25pm, the following was written:

> My problem: when I run ver 2.0a, the cursor disappears. Not a big deal, bu
> annoying when you're running a text editor.

I was never able to get that version to work properly on the palmtop.

>
> So, you say: "Run 3.1!"
>
> Problem: it freezes for no reason from time to time, generally runs slower
> and demands that I register every 6 days.

I asked/begged the author to trim the big version for palmtop use and he
complied with my wishes <grin>. You should allocate all possible memory to
it or run it under MaxDos, I use for hours on end with no problems
whatsoever, it sure beats the heck out of DataComm. As far as
registering.... I did.

Good luck!

73 Jeff KF4KGQ


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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 17:07:20 +800
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              Paul Yarnell <pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM>
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On 1998-08-06 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
   >At 09:21 AM 8/6/98 +800, you wrote:
   >>Well, Frys was selling Creative Modem blasters for $14.99us a few
   >>weeks ago. I bought one and it has worked well for me. You might
   >>find one auctioned on E-bay or another auction site.
   >Hi Paul,
   >What FRYS was that?
   >Manhattan Beach , Ca maybe!
   >Boy! $14.95. The Ultimate Summer 1998 Palmtop Catalog (Thaddeus
   >Computing) page 15
   >has them advertised for $69.95. Go figure!
Hi Q-man,
Nah, it's the Frys in Oregon, just south of Portland. The box was
branded Scout, I figured well for $15 I'd chance it, but the modem and
the books all said Creative. Maybe they were dumping excess(or
seconds.) I just remembered they don't work with LXCIC 1.1, do work
with ver. 1 though. Don't really like Frys, but their on my regular
circut for toy shopping.

Regards,

Paul

Paul Yarnell
pyarnell@proaxis.com

I don't have any solution but I certainly admire the problem.

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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
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In a message dated 98-08-06 04:46:30 EDT, you write:

<< I
 posted earlier asking for help getting my ACT 4.0 data into my 200LX...
either
 in ACT for Palmtops 1.1.1 format, or barring that.. HP format.. no one helped
 me.. now, since I get cranky if I can't carry it with.. my honey is urging me
 to get a Sharp CE.. please help. >>

My recommendation is to get rid of ACT 4.0 -- and if necessary the honey.  The
200LX is an impossible act to follow.

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Hi, folks:

I apologize in advance because I'm sure this topic has raised before, but
didn't pay much attention to it.


I've the chance to buy a ACE 80MB doubleflash card for a good price. I
assume it's a 40MB ATA flash card with software compression.

Anyway, I've heard that ACE is out of business, and that the cards have
some trouble working in the HP200LX. Is this true ?... do they have any
other compatibility problems ?.

Thanks. Nacho.



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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 02:37:31 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Memory upgrades
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>I expect a 128Mb version soon, and I've heard rumours that 256Mb is
>possible too. And since these guys are not telling you honestly what's
>going on, you'd better be a little patient unless you are willing to pay an
>upgrade fee every month.

Absolute maximum is 128MB, which is limited by the addressing capabilities
of the Hornet IC.

But another more restrictive limit is room. There's ver little room left
inside our 200LXs. I guess the most one can place in there is a PCB with
three chips on each side.

Using four 64Mbit DRAMs, you get 32MB. Using four 128Mbit (which are really
two 64Mbit in each package) DRAMs, you get 64MB.=20

It's impossible to use six 64Mbit DRAMs, because the ones required by the
Hornet IC have 4 bit data bus and must be grouped by four in order to get
16 bit datapath width.

Perhaps it's possible to use six 128 Mbit DRAMs, for a total of 96MB.


But beyond there, the next generation of DRAMs must be used, this is,
256Mbit, and accordint to Kazuto Kitakubo, the ones planned by the
manufacturers that have achieved it don't include EDO nor FPM, which are
the only ones usable by the 200LX.

Regards. Nacho.

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Departamento I+D, GND S.A.
Parque Tecnol=F3gico de Valencia
Calle A3, Paterna (Valencia) 46980
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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:16:44 +0930
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              David Bird <dbird@PHYSICS.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU>
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I have read in the past (and recently used) an alternative to taking
batteries out and waiting a day or so to completely drain all the
power from the HP200LX. After removing all the batteries (make sure the
backup is removed before the AAs), hold the ON key down for a minute or so.
This should discharge any remaining power in the system (most likely charge in
capacitors). Found that Ctrl-Shft-On did not completely remove everything,
but this did.

As far as memory upgrades go, I got an upgrade to 6MB in May last year only
to find out about the 8 MB upgrade shortly after. But, I am happy with what I
have (Aussie dollar is so bad at the moment, having lost 20% since that time,
that any upgrade is not possible in the forseeable future). I did read
on this list a while back that 128 MB was the physical limit of the HP200LX
due to addressing issues. I'd love to be proven wrong on this matter.

I'll be waiting until this upgrade is released before considering an upgrade.

David Bird

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Subject:      ACE 80MB doubleflash card INFO requested

Nacho
They may be worh the trouble if the the
price is right :)

What's the price?

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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I enjoy my Act on my WinCe unit!!!  It has great Sync features with the PC version 4.0.2

----Original Message-----
   >From:       "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
   >To:         HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
   >Subject:            Act 4.0
   >Reply-To:           HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, Cavendishl@AOL.COM
   >Date:       Thursday, August 06, 1998 8:38 PM
   >
   >In a message dated 98-08-06 04:46:30 EDT, you write:
   >
   ><< I
   > posted earlier asking for help getting my ACT 4.0 data into my 200LX...
   >either
   > in ACT for Palmtops 1.1.1 format, or barring that.. HP format.. no one helped
   > me.. now, since I get cranky if I can't carry it with.. my honey is urging me
   > to get a Sharp CE.. please help. >>
   >
   >My recommendation is to get rid of ACT 4.0 -- and if necessary the honey.  The
   >200LX is an impossible act to follow.
   >
   >Cordially,
   >
   >Lynn M. Cavendish
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Has everybody read the latest story at Microsoft's web site, at
http://www.microsoft.com/misc/features.htm ?  It's quite amusing.

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              Peter Fales <psfales@EARTHLING.NET>
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> I installed the card successfully on Red Hat Linux 5.1, and was able to =
> access
> a Simple Technologies 8Mbyte flash card.
>
> The installation procedure given on the SCM Technologies Web site worked
> for Windows 95, but W95 could not mount the flash card.  Any ideas?
>
> Philip J. Tait.....AlliedSignal Engines, Phoenix, Az.....pjt@phxase.allied=
> ..com

Can you tell me what sort of software, drivers, etc. you used to get this
working under Linux?  I've got one of these cards on order, and I assume
there must be something more than just plugging it in.

Thanks,
Peter Fales                       Lucent Technologies, Room 1P-419
N9IYJ                             1200 E Warrenville Road
                                  Naperville, IL 60563
internet: psfales@lucent.com      work: (630) 979-8031

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              Nguyen <lnguyen@COMPUSNET.COM>
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Hi.
#1:
I'm having a problem with Memo.  When I make a new file and go to "save
as.../save", an error pops up that says "Error in writing file".  However,
when I open up an old file and save it, it works fine.

#2:
Is it worth it to order the HP Palmtop Paper back issues(in other words is
it useful)?

#3:
Is there any software out there that's useful for mechanical engineering?

If anyone could offer any help, I would greatly appriciate it.  Thanks.

---------------------
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lnguyen@compusnet.com

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 be something tomorrow, yet they don't
 see what they already are today"
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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HPLX-L Listmembers:

     Please accept my sincere apologies, I went on vacation for a few
days, and was unable to access my EMail since Thursday. The Listserver
locked up with a message overflow (> 75 messages) and I was unable to
free it 'til now.

     Yes, I had my LX, but was unable to access a phone line w/ credit
card (most furstrating, as I know the answer lies in the archives, but
could not access this either!) Anyway, I should have sorted this out
before I left, but time was short before departure.

     The HPLX-L is still alive and well, and you are all still
subscribed ;-)  (the rumors of my purchasing a PalmPilot are just
exaggerations).

     Again, my apologies for any inconvenience or frustration.

Cheers,

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 00:04:27 GMT
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hheelllloo (cupping ear, listening for echo)

Is anyone still alive out there? Its been two days since I've
gotten a message from this list. Is civilization gone?


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              rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU
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On 1998-08-06 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said:
   >--=====================_1075095==_.ALT
   >I can not believe this.. I asked for help.. got none.. all the
   >replies I got were off list - me too's.. I am faced with the
   >prospect of changing from my trusty 200LX to a "CE" machine because
   >ACT 4.0x no longer supports my LX.. I posted earlier asking for
   >help getting my ACT 4.0 data into my 200LX... either in ACT for
   >Palmtops 1.1.1 format, or barring that.. HP format.. no one helped
Hi Tonia

I am not familiar with Act but wonder if you can print or save as a vanilla
text file?  If so it would be possible to import from DOS into the LX.

Any idea of the format within ACT?

Russell
Net-Tamer V 1.11P - Test Drive

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Hi, has anyone upgraded their motherboard and interested in parting with the
old one? Or has anyone got a broken down 200LX that I could use for spares?

Cheers,
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Date:         Sat, 8 Aug 1998 20:17:04 +0200
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Subject:      Re: ACE 80MB doubleflash card INFO requested
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At 20:06 6/08/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Nacho
>They may be worh the trouble if the the
>price is right :)
>
>What's the price?

$127 + shipping (USA -> Europe)

Regards. Nacho.

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Calle A3, Paterna (Valencia) 46980
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Date:         Sat, 8 Aug 1998 10:34:46 -0700
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Ok, I'm looking for some advice from long-time PGP users, as well as
looking for someone using GP and PGP to try what I've got and give
me some feedback (especially if you're not already doing it via the
LXPGP method)

The solution I have some up with works with any editor/reader, and
is totally external to GP itself (so it won't waste disk/memory on
those 1mb units that can't hold PGP anyway).  It appears to work very
well (as far as a short-term PGP user like myself sees it) for someone
with one secret key.  It won't work with multiple key situations.  One
case I can think of would be a family, each with a mailbox, all expecting
to use PGP.  They would each need to restart GP and enter their own
passphrase.  To handle cases like this would require extra code inside
GP itself, plus would make the single-key case a bit less clean.

What I'm asking is this; is a multiple passphrase situation unusual?
Currently here's how it works:

1) Upon starting GP, you are asked for your passphrase
2) Upon exiting GP, the passphrase file is wiped and erased
3) Upon entering the editor/reader, messages containing PGP bring up
     a decode/verify/neither selection
4) Upon modifying a message body, another prompt is displayed offering
     encode/sign/both/neither selections

It's smart enough to not query on scripts/filters/sigfiles, not query on
unmodified files, and not query on messages not containing PGP (well, I
hope - I need more info and tests on this one!)

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I'm using Netscape communicator and I leave msgs
in my Inbox for a period of time. Last Monday (8/3)
something burped, and my Inbox contained 4 msgs.,
rather than the 100 (previously read) that I expected.
The text file is still on my system and I can read older
msgs. with a text editor.

Since most of my E-mail comes from this list, did anyone
else experience this? Could it be a bad msgs in the stream?

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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 22:33:02 -0700
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From:         "Tim S." <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
Subject:      Patchcom is cool!

I've been playing with my new WWW/LX and ccmail etc...  All the while when I
wanted to use my external modem at home,  I would have to disconnect the
modem from the desktop, hookup some adapters etc...  Big pain.  Plus I
forgot the adapter at work before.

Well, I remembered about patchcom on super and tried it tonight.  It hooks
my com2 on my desktop which has my hp on it, to com1 which has my modem on
it.  You have to set the baud to 9600, but thats OK.  No more messing with
cables or adapters, and it works in a DOS box on win95.

Now I'm experimenting with Omniprint.  Can anyone give me any pointers?

-Tim
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tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments)
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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 23:22:33 -0500
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              David L Sprinkle <dsprinkl@INDIANA.EDU>
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I've not received any mail from the list since early this AM.
Are there problems with the server?


Dave Sprinkle - dsprinkl@indiana.edu
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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 20:40:00 CDT
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Subject:      Re: Fwd: $10 NECX PCMCIA Reader

Hopefully this isn't too far off topic...

I asked Philip Tait how he got his PCMCIA memory card working under Linux.
He apparently had trouble responding to the list, so he asked me to
forward this response:  (The following are his words, not mine)

Peter Fales

====================================

Notes from my installation:--------------------

References:  1. /usr/src/linux/README, 2.
/usr/src/linux/pcmcia*/PCMCIA-HOWTO

For the Simple Technologies 8Mbyte flash card (or any ATA flashcard) to
work, rebuild the kernel with PCMCIA IDE support.

Much of the following is probably not necessary if you select PCMCIA
support during initial installation of RH 5.1.

cd to /usr/src/linux/pcmcia*, then 'make config' (defaults seemed to be
OK),
'make all', and 'make install'.

In the /etc/config/pcmcia file, set PCIC=i82365.

Reboot with the new kernel, then run '/etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start'.
Plug the flash card in - you should hear two beeps from the speaker.

You should then be able to mount /dev/hdX1, where 'X' was 'e' in my case,
but is probably affected by the presence of other IDE devices in your
system.  This can be done automatically at insertion - see the README in
the /usr/src/linux/pcmcia* directory.

Use the run level editor to add 'pcmcia' to start at your default runlevel,
or link /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia to /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S45pcmcia.

There is detailed documentation in the /usr/src/linux/pcmcia* directory.

--

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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 18:17:37 -0500
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<HTML>
Does anyone know if there is a DOS version of ICQ software around?
<BR>Thanks
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I am looking for software only for the connectivity pack for HP 200LX.

Does anyone have a copy they would sell?

Thanks,

Bob

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Comments: To: leot@ISDIAL.COM

Leo Theron (leot@ISDIAL.COM) Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:21:13 +0200
> I know about GP and other solutions, but what is a GOOD (ie SIMPLE to
> use, off line prep, reading and one connection to send) solution for
> e-mail - to be used by Grand-ma to contact her grand children in the
> USA?

Leo Theron (leot@ISDIAL.COM) Wed, 29 Jul 1998 22:37:15 +0200
>> ... Is there a reason why you're considering a DOS solution vs Windows?
> Limited horsepower on 386 machine...


You should definitely check this out then ..

                http://www.newdealinc.com/

From their web page:

       "Not only does SchoolSuite 98 deliver (to even 286 and
       386 machines) an up-to-date and fully graphical,
       multitasking, and networkable application suite including
       built in web-browser, word processor, database,
       spreadsheet and graphics programs it does so at a small
       fraction of the cost of purchasing and equipping new
       machines. As a result, schools can now upgrade their
       computers economically through software, rather than
       replacement, and improve their student-to-computer
       ratios dramatically."

The 8088 is not officially supported, but they claim that
the package was tested in-house with an XT, and it runs
even though slow ..


(not related to the company)
whay.

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Ted Heise wrote:

> Only problem is I'm confused at the beginning.  I'm using
> a PCMCIA 14.4 Megahertz modem which leads me to believe I
> need to use pppd, the serial line driver.  On the other
> hand, Rod's directions state that LXTCP programs rely on
> bootp protocol and the Dos PPP ddocs say that eppd (the
> ethernet driver) emulates bootp.  Which do I need to use?

I do not believe that the LXTCP programs *require* BOOTP, but it sure is
helpful.  I suggest using the EPPPD.EXE (check out CHAP.ZIP if you want
CHAP authentication).  It makes configuration quite a bit easier.  In
the WATTCP.CFG you can specify, "my_ip=bootp" and avoid the need to
specify an IP address, gateway, netmask, etc.  You must set the "namsrv"
entry in your EPPPD configuration file or command line.  Note that EPPPD
is emulating BOOTP and that it is not required to be supported by your
provider.

Otherwise you can use PPPD.EXE and set all the needed information in
WATTCP.CFG manually.

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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 12:07:47 -0500
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Is it possible to use one of those moncrome hand-held scanners with a
hp100lx or hp200lx?
(thru the parrellel port, assuming they have one?)
just wondering, a local comp. store has one for ~$15 or so but it doesn't
work with sound-blasters :P
not a problem with the palmtops :)

     -James, N9XLC
     -jrhall@globalsite.net

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Hi, I was wondering if anyone in Dayton knew if a 'used computer' store was
still open, it's called "computer renaissance". I think it's in Dayton... I
saw a
commercial for them in a tape I recorded of Star Trek: Voyager a year or two
ago
(the one where they go back in time to 1996, if anyone knows what I'm
talkign about)
(commercial break, not in the show :P)
but the directions say "behind sam's at fairfield commons, beavercreek
426-3688"
I dunno where that is! heh
Thanks,
     -James, N9XLC
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Sprague <eugarps@ibm.net>
Newsgroups:
alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp,comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.palmtops,misc.forsale.c
omputers.pc-specific.portables
Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 2:53 PM
Subject: FS: HP200LX + Accessories


>For Sale:
>
>HP200LX/4 Meg
>EXP 1414LXM (Fax/Modem/Memory Card) 8 Meg (Includes Fax Software)
>HP 5 Meg Flashcard
>HP A/C Adapter (Folding Prong Model)
>WWW/LX (Web Browser and News and E'mail Client)
>Draft Choice (CAD)
>Quick LX (Typing assistant)
>acCIS (Compuserve Offline Reader)
>ABC LX (Battery Charging Utility
>Time Tracker (Time Billing Software)
>Intellisync (Puma's Sync Software)
>20 or so Palm Top Papers
>Wetsuit Case
>Targus Double Wallet Case
>Parallel Cable (Greenwich)
>Serial Cable
>Lotus 123 Microref Book
>DOS Microref Book
>All Original Documents and unused name plate
>Sorry, warranty card's been sent in.
>
>Best offer over $400.00 and you pay the shipping via FEDEX COD.  Just send
>me your ZIP code and I'll send you the fees.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>
>
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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 11:09:52 -0400
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Last night I had the most amazing dream (but that's another story).

As a part of this dream, I took a HP360lx (commonly known as the GBP, or
Great Big Paperweight), gutted it, and replaced the components with the
following:

An ultra-low power Pentium 75 TCP (tape carrier package)

256mb onboard RAM (192 storage / 64 running)

Hooked it up so that you could flash the ROM (256mb) with whatever OS and
programs you wanted. That way you wouldn't be dead (on the road or in the
future) should things in your life change.

The best part was I somehow got 40hrs of battery life (2 AA) out of the deal
and reduced the weight by a couple ounces.

Sometimes I just hate waking up in the morning ;)

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ-TV

P.S.
As I've just won my second HP360lx in a giveaway, and Microsoft deemed it
necessary to give me a palm-pc at a conference I went to, I offer this
prayer.

"Oh great god of prizes, please stop letting me win useless CE devices and
instead let me get something useful like a hernia or a root canal"

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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:30:11 -0400
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I have an ACE 40 (20mb) card and have never had any problems, even when I
dropped it and put a big dent in it. I've had the card since early 1993.

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ-TV

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From: Ignacio Garc=EDa P=E9rez <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 8:36 PM
Subject: ACE 80MB doubleflash card INFO requested


Hi, folks:

I apologize in advance because I'm sure this topic has raised before, but
didn't pay much attention to it.


I've the chance to buy a ACE 80MB doubleflash card for a good price. I
assume it's a 40MB ATA flash card with software compression.

Anyway, I've heard that ACE is out of business, and that the cards have
some trouble working in the HP200LX. Is this true ?... do they have any
other compatibility problems ?.

Thanks. Nacho.

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Departamento I+D, GND S.A.
Parque Tecnol=F3gico de Valencia
Calle A3, Paterna (Valencia) 46980
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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:38:15 -0400
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I tried wwpack against diet, pklite and tinyprog.  It reduced my trials
much smaller than any of the others.  Get WWPACK, it's the best EXE
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Qman wrote:
   >At 09:21 AM 8/6/98 +800, you wrote:
 > >Well, Frys was selling Creative Modem blasters for $14.99us a few weeks
...
 > Boy! $14.95. The Ultimate Summer 1998 Palmtop Catalog (Thaddeus Computing)
 > page 15 has them advertised for $69.95. Go figure!

And in the Thaddeus catalog, they listed it as rated at something like
350ma when in use--well beyond the 150ma the palmtop supplies to the port.

What is the correct amp rating for the creative modem blaster?
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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:24:50 -0400
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For those inquiring about modems, I recently purchased some MXJ144
Megahertz 14.4 X-jack PCMCIA modems from "Resource Concepts Internet
Store"  (internetsales@resourcesales.com).  Price was $10 each, but I
don't remember the shipping.

Regards,

Lionel

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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:28:17 -0400
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Someone on the list complained that they couldn't find ACT for their
palmtop.  If ACT 2.11a (which says it syncs with the 95LX) would be helpful
to you, email me.  I may be able to help.
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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:18:46 -0400
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Thanks for the tip, I just tried this and it does work, although it can be a
long process if there are a lot of changes.  Here is how I did it assuming
that Outlook98 had the most current data, which it did fore the most part:

1.  Sync Outlook 98 and Schedule +.  This will get Outlook and Schedule + in
sync, we hope.

2.  Sync Schedule + and the HP200.  At this point the HP200 and Schedule +
are in sync.  All changes from Schedule + have been applied to the HP200 and
all changes from the HP200 have been applied to Schedule +.

3.  Sync Outlook 98 and Schedule + again.  At this point your calendar,
contact lists and task lists should all match between the HP200 and Outlook.

The problem with this is the three step process, I still want a single step
process but at least this works.  I have not tried this with other PIM's,
but it appears to work OK with the Microsoft products.  I still can't see
giving up my HP200LX for a CE based palmtop, they are just too big, too
heavy, relatively short battery life and to costly.  If a 16MB CE based unit
costs almost $1000.00, and given the relatively limited market, one could
surmise that a 64MB CE based unit would be well over $2,000.00 so the
question becomes WHY!  Just one more instance of the Redmondians taking over
the computing world and dictating what we all should like.

HP200 forever!!

John Guenther

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> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 1998 1:41 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Synchronization
>
>
> I am just getting *back* to my HP200LX after some time of various
> infidelity (let's see WinCE 1.0HPC, Newton, PalmIII, WinCE2HPC, currently
> Phillips Nino), and one thing that made me leave was the lack of
> synchronization to Lotus Notes.  However, the compelling features - PIM
> apps, calculator, DOS, size (really no bigger than the Nino...)
> and battery
> life (WinCE people are recharger freaks, even without any PC Cards...) -
> were too much to ignore.  I am trying to set up a work-around system now.
>
> Puma appears to have a core strategy right now that is focused on three
> legs:  IntelliSync for Notebooks, WinCE and Pilot.  All others are
> secondary, including the HP200LX.  I couldn't get commitment on this, but
> the economics are rather obvious.
>
> The core Intellisync for Notebooks allows you to do many things,
> and I have
> the version that came on my Libretto hooked into my desktop to synchonize
> my programming files, so I can then maintain 3 copies (laptop,
> desktop, Jaz
> drive).  It also allows PIM to PIM synchronization.  By upgrading to
> version 1.6 (about a week released) you get to sync to Outlook 98, Act 4,
> and (of course) Notes.  So, the theory from Puma is that I use
> the 'mature'
> Intellisync for HP200LX to sync to something like Schedule+, then use the
> 'fresh' Intellisync for Notebooks to sync Schedule+ to Lotus Notes.  I can
> schedule the processes to occur whenever I want, so it shouldn't be an
> issue.  I ordered the two Intellisyncs (the 200LX and the upgrade to1.6),
> and will try it when they arrive.
>
> I'll let you know how it goes...
>
> I think that the reality is that the 200LX platform, while not
> dead, is not
> obtaining significant mindshare in the frenetic CE/Pilot race.  So I
> believe we have to be a bit more patient and creative.  I would
> much rather
> do a double sync to use my HP200LX, and even have to use Lotus Organizer,
> than have a direct sync to the HP620LX...
>
> Mike
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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:46:52 -0400
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              "Richard S. Nowakowski" <rsn@UMDNJ.EDU>
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Can anyone tell me the expected lifespan of the backup battery? I've had
my 200LX for 2-3 years and the backup battery still reads 3.0 V (in
battlog). How much longer can I expect?

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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 20:30:26 +0700
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I just tried Norton Commander v5.0 on my 200LX.  It really
made my day!  Just like when I "found" Zip file transfer
utility a few months back.

With NC 5.0 on my 200LX and my desktop I can:
+ synchronize between 2 directories (i.e. local & remote);
+ do housekeeping on my desktop with 200LX as the slave unit;
+ copy, move, delete, rename directories/files on 200LX better
than the built-in Filer.

NC v5.0 basic programs (nc.exe, ncmain.exe, nc.msg) takes up
250Kb diskspace.  It can also clone itself to another computer
as well.

Sentot

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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 05:44:12 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Save as... error??? (and other ?'s)(HP200LX)
Comments: To: Nguyen <lnguyen@COMPUSNET.COM>
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On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Nguyen wrote:

> I'm having a problem with Memo.  When I make a new file and go to "save
> as.../save", an error pops up that says "Error in writing file".  However,
> when I open up an old file and save it, it works fine.

If you're trying to save into your main or root DOS directory, shouldn't
that slash be the other way? Ie, "\save" instead of "/save".

Otherwise, when you do the 'save as', see if the dialogue box that pops up
('save the current file as') shows a legal disk drive (ie, C: or A: and not
D: ).

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:08:20 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Don't know about your problem with memo.
try creating a new file and copy stuff over
and save.

YES!  If you like the current issues yu hav
then all the past issues are good, I eat
every word of every issue.  CD if its the
same as the  paper.

so yor a mech engine, there are a lot of
esoteric stuff around, gotta scrounge for it.
check wit yor buddies.

Been back to nam?

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:55:54 +0200
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              "Wellner, Harry SIOP-OGBH/7" <Harry.H.M.Wellner@OPC.SHELL.COM>
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Where can I find this little 'baby' ?

Harry Wellner, The Netherlands



>----------
>From:  James P. GrenertSMTP:grenert.james@MAYO.EDU
>Sent:  06 August 1998 20:39
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: Tinyprog, Diet, PKZIP, et al
>
>On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Walter R Francis wrote:
>> Morever, Diet allows compression of data files, and upon loading Diet
>> resident it automatically decompresses and recompresses the files.
>>
>Another plus which maybe isn't clearly implied here is that you can unload
>the driver.  I have some batch files which load DIET, then load the
>program (which uses DIETed data files), then unload DIET.  It's invisible
>as far as I can tell.
>
>> Also, Diet will UNcompress files, I don't believe PKLite can.
>>
>This is a very nice feature, since some programs don't like to be
>compressed for various reasons.  If I run into a problem, I just type,
>"diet -ra filename" and it's like I never touched it.
>
>I'm tempted by LZEXE based on the speed tests posted recently, but since I
>really don't notice a delay in loading files, I'll probably stick to DIET
>for most things.
>
>Cheers.
>J. P. Grenert
>grenert@mayo.edu
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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:24:26 -0400
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              Tom LaRoche <tom_laroche@HP.COM>
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Where did you folks find a $10 ATA card reader?

Tom LaRoche
tom_laroche@hp.com <mailto:tom_laroche@hp.com>


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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 06:51:27 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: ACE 80MB doubleflash card INFO requested
In-Reply-To:  <3.0.5.32.19980807022741.00860cb0@MERCURIO> from "Ignacio
              =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_P=E9rez?=" at Aug 7,
              98 02:27:41 am
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> I've the chance to buy a ACE 80MB doubleflash card for a good price. I
> assume it's a 40MB ATA flash card with software compression.
>
> Anyway, I've heard that ACE is out of business, and that the cards have
> some trouble working in the HP200LX. Is this true ?... do they have any
> other compatibility problems ?.

I've used an ACE 30/60 MB card on my 200LX for years!  I thought they
were only sold for use in a 200LX.  I've never had any problems nor
heard of any report of problems of the ACE flash cards and the 200LX.
What exactly have you heard?

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 06:22:55 -0500
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              kilgore@PYLON.PILLAR.COM
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I have quite a few Megahertz X-Jack PCMCIA 14.4 modems (XJ1144) for
sale.  All are used, but have been tested with a 200LX and are verified
working.  Cosmetically good, except for light scratches from being
inserted and removed.  These are bare modems only and do not include any
documentation or software (not needed for a HPLX anyway). I also have a
few modems which are a little uglier, with excessive scratches or
"property of" stickers at a discount.

These modems are known to work well with the HPLX and have a low current
draw.  These work just as well as the "New in Box" XJ1144 modems that I
sold at $50 each several months ago.

I will provide a 30 day warranty and *FREE* shipping in the US.  I would
prefer to ship in the US only, but will consider other arrangements.

Cost is $25 for each modem including shipping in the US OR $25 for the
first modem and $20 for an additional "ugly" modem. If I run out of
"ugly" modems, I will ship the "pretty" ones for the same price.

If you are interested please email me direct and please do not respond
to the list.  Additional information at:
   http://www.telepath.com/pillar/xjack.html

Thanks,

Stan





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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 06:46:35 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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At 02:27 AM 8/7/98 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi, folks:
>
>I apologize in advance because I'm sure this topic has raised before, but
>didn't pay much attention to it.
>
>
>I've the chance to buy a ACE 80MB doubleflash card for a good price. I
>assume it's a 40MB ATA flash card with software compression.
>
This is true.

>Anyway, I've heard that ACE is out of business, and that the cards have
>some trouble working in the HP200LX. Is this true ?... do they have any
>other compatibility problems ?.
>
>Thanks. Nacho.
>
They are out of business.
I can't speak for the 80M card but I've used a 10M ACE card for 3 years
with absolutely no problems.

Good Luck,
Owen



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HP200LX: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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Date:         Fri, 7 Aug 1998 05:38:33 -0400
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              manderson@SHIPLEY.COM
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>>I would much rather do a double sync to use my HP200LX, and even have to
use Lotus Organizer,
>>than have a direct sync to the HP620LX...
>>
>Bernard Torbik
>That is decidedly a matter of opinion. Who even uses Lotus Organizer
anymore instead of Outlook or Goldmine?

That is why I said _I_ ... it is entirely a matter of peronal choice... as
is the choice of devices.  I gave my HP620LX to a woman who works for me,
and she likes it just fine... I have found that I really dislike WinCE on
the handheld - even though I like WinNT and WinCE on the PalmPC.  Go
figure!

Goldmine?  I have to admit to not ever hearing of that one...

Someone else talked about the primitive Notes scheduling.  I don't know
about that.  I use Notes 4.6, and find the scheduling definitely works for
my needs.  We are leveraged heavily into Notes, and I have tended to push
people (typical early adopter) into using the scheduling to set up
meetings, etc.  I actually find Organizer a 'necessary evil', and would not
buy it if not required.  It seems fat and slow, most of all since it
doesn't get rid of the need to have Notes Client running for my mail.

I know some are interested, so I will keep updating as I
learn/fail/succeed... I am thinking about putting up a Notes sync web page
since I now have experience across Newton/Pilot/WinCE handheld/WinCE Palm &
hopefully HP200LX!

Mike

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 23:37:46 -0600
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              Owen Kalau <owenk@CANUCK.COM>
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Al quoteth:

>Try a block CURSOR utility.
>WordPerfect V1, or V4.0
>WordStar 3.3
>P.E. for LX.
>all small word procesors.

Unfortunately, I'm using it as a vt100 terminal, and the editor on the
other end is gonna be either pico, pine, vi, or emacs. Even if I exit out
of bcom, as long as I don't reboot, the cursors (even the dos one) have
disappeared. Highly frustrating. Is there some sort of exotic hack to
bring back the cursor? =)

Thanks again.

Owen

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 22:41:50 -0600
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              Jan Allbright <wharfrat@PCISYS.NET>
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grrrrrrr.....

I found a bit of software called GARDOWND that is supposed to be a DOS
program that will upload / download waypoints, tracks, etc. from a garmin
GPS unit. When I try to run the program from the DOS command line I am
rewarded with a "cannot execute" message. Yet when I execute it from the
filer - it works ... but since it is param driven it just coughs up the
param list. It also work when called from a batch file from the command
line.

What gives?

-or-
Does anyone know of a freeware program that will suck the tracks out of a
Garmin GPS into a text file????

TIA

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 22:12:11 -0500
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              Rick Schwaiger <rschwaiger@CTLNET.COM>
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Can someone who has bought and used one of these help clarify this?

Is this a complete set-up for a PC to be able to read a PCMCIA card?  Or
is it just a plug-in ISA interface card and would still need the
external unit to plug the PCMCIA card into?  I want to get a ST 33.6
modem and a 40 Meg flash card and this NECX item looks like it would
make backups a breeze.


Thanks for your help,

Rick S.



Al Kind wrote:
>
> Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:24:24 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hi All:
>
>      I just installed the NECX $10 PCMCIA card in my W95 Desktop. I am
> able to use my Apollo/EXP 33.6i FAX/MODEM & read/write to my PNY 8MB
> CF(w/adapter)...WORKS GREAT!...$14 w/UPS ground shipping...still
> available as of this message.
>
> FYI: Here's how to get it(Thanks Pete!):
>
> Go to the main page, www.necx.com and click on outlet center. you
> will get another screen that says click for outlet center (this may go
> by automatically it is a redirect) then you will get a screen
> explaining their outlet center. From there click on the top link that
> says enter the outlet center (something like that) and you will see
> the pcmcia adaptor as the third bulleted item.
>
> Cheers,
>
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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 22:59:51 -0400
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Hello all,

I would like to do BASIC programming on my 2MB HP200LX.  I have MS
QuickBASIC v4.5 left over from my DOS desktop, and I like to use it.
I can get QB45 to run on the HP200LX, but QB45 does not correctly access
the serial port, and I cannot redirect LPT outputs to the COM1 port.
Are there DOS variables or other settings to take care of this, or is it
a lost cause?

Thanks for your guidance & experience.

        Bob

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Date:         Sat, 8 Aug 1998 22:01:01 -0400
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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HPLX-L will be off-line for a while tomorrow Sunday Aug 9. This time it
is not my fault ;-)

Cheers...AJKind

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> Due to campus construction, the Computer Center has been informed that
> our electrical power will be shut off this coming Sunday (August 9)
> between 6am and 2pm.  As a consequence, we will be shutting down our
> central operations at 5am, Sunday morning; as soon as reliable power
> is restored, we will bring the central systems back online.  We could
> be operational by around 3pm, Sunday afternoon, or sooner, but the
> timetable depends on factors which are beyond our control...

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Date:         Sat, 8 Aug 1998 19:10:00 -0700
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Subject:      Re: lifespan of backup battery
Comments: To: "Richard S. Nowakowski" <rsn@UMDNJ.EDU>

As a rule, 18 months. I'd say your living on borrowed time. A change would be prudent.

----Original Message-----
   >From:       "Richard S. Nowakowski" <rsn@UMDNJ.EDU>
   >To:         HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
   >Subject:            lifespan of backup battery
   >Reply-To:           HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,"Richard S. Nowakowski" <rsn@UMDNJ.EDU>
   >Date:       Friday, 07 August, 1998 6:46
   >
   >Can anyone tell me the expected lifespan of the backup battery? I've had
   >my 200LX for 2-3 years and the backup battery still reads 3.0 V (in
   >battlog). How much longer can I expect?
   >
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> P.S.
> As I've just won my second HP360lx in a giveaway, and Microsoft deemed it
> necessary to give me a palm-pc at a conference I went to, I offer this
> prayer.
>
> "Oh great god of prizes, please stop letting me win useless CE devices and
> instead let me get something useful like a hernia or a root canal"
<G!>

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Date:         Sat, 8 Aug 1998 22:22:59 -0500
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              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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Subject:      NECX PCMCIA and Win95
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I may have missed an earlier posting, but couldn't find anything in the
archive so...

I bought one of the readers, installed it, but could find the crdrdr.exe
file on my Win 95 CD-ROM or on the Microsoft site.

What software, drivers, etc do I need to make the card reader work with
Win95, particularly to allow hot swapping. And, where do I get it and at
what price?

Thanks for the help.


Alan

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 03:46:07 +0000
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>
> With NC 5.0 on my 200LX and my desktop I can:
> + synchronize between 2 directories (i.e. local & remote);
> + do housekeeping on my desktop with 200LX as the slave unit;
> + copy, move, delete, rename directories/files on 200LX better
> than the built-in Filer.
>

When you say sync, does this automatically remove files from the desktop
directory tree which you have erased from the HP?  Or do you have to
"clean up" manually to remove items from your desktop that you have
deleted from the hp?

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 01:12:03 EDT
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Does anyone have an idea where I can get GWBasic?   I find all sorts of
programs for it, but I can't find GWBasic itself.  Would appreciate any help!!

Cathy

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Date:         Sat, 8 Aug 1998 22:17:55 -0700
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On Fri, 7 Aug 1998, hplx wrote:

> Someone on the list complained that they couldn't find ACT for their
> palmtop.  If ACT 2.11a (which says it syncs with the 95LX) would be helpful
> to you, email me.  I may be able to help.
> ----
> http://comports.com/hplx   <--old stuff is new...

Thanks, But 2.11a is the DOS version that will link with Act for the HP
1.0 which runs on the 95 but 2.11a WON't link with Act for HP 1.1.1 which
runs on the 100/200 LX

What some of us wnat is to find a copy of Windows version 2.04 which will
link with the Act for HP 1.1.1

Or find a way to link version 3 or 4 with Act for HP 1.1.1

What we'd really like is for Symantec to reales a new Act for HP that is
up to date.

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Date:         Sat, 8 Aug 1998 23:27:36 -0700
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Some dso stuff I saw for sale. I don't know anything about the seller.

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 19:07:00 -0400
From: Lenny Calderwood <lenny1@uscom.com>
Avery Label Pro  Dot Matrix  DOS 3.5  / 5.25 $100.00/$15.50-shipped
MS DOS 5.0 Upgrade 3.5    $70.00 /$20.50-shipped
MS Works Ver 2.0 DOS 3.5    $150.00/$15.50-shipped
Quicken Ver 6.0 DOS 3.5  / 5.25   $70.00 /$15.50-shipped
Check It PC Diagn. Ver 3.0 DOS 3.5  / 5.25 $150.00/$20.50-shipped
Formtool Ver 2.01 DOS 3.5    $95.00 /$20.50-shipped
Key 3-D Design DOS 3.5  / 5.25   $30.00 /$10.50-shipped
SuperCalc 4 DOS Spread/Graph/Data Mgnt 5.25  $150.00/$20.50-shipped
SuperProjectPlus DOS Project Management 5.25 $150.00/$20.50-shipped
New PrintShop DOS 3.5  / 5.25   $50.00 /$10.50-shipped
New PrintShop Comp. DOS 3.5  / 5.25  $40.00 /$10.50-shipped
New PrintShop Graph. Lib. Sampler DOS  3.5/5.25 $30.00 /$10.50-shipped
New PrintShop Graph. Lib. Scl./Bus DOS 3.5/5.25 $30.00 /$10.50-shipped

All opened software includes original packaging, media, manuals,
and documentation. Shipping & Handling included on orders over $10.00
within the continental U.S.


--
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Date:         Sat, 8 Aug 1998 23:28:49 -0700
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Again I don't know the seller.

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 02:54:05 GMT
From: randall@techknow.com
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.software
Subject: $5.95 -older software bargains

The following commercial programs are complete, and are still in their
original shrinkwrap. They are eligible for the lowest cost upgrades.
UPS extra. Choose 5 or more and shipping is free.


  Electronic Thesaurus----5 1/4--220,000 synonyms--------------$ 5.95
  Key Chart 2000----------5 1/4--presentation graphics---------- 5.95
  Key Clip Master Vol 1---5 1/4--Dover Clip Art Library--------- 5.95
  Z Soft PC Paintbrush----5 1/4--graphic design----------------- 5.95
  Micro Home Library------5 1/4--book classics on disk---------- 5.95
  Key Dictionary----------5 1/4--795 pages of definitions------- 5.95

  --->SUPER DEAL! Have all 6 for only $39. delivered!
======================================================================
GAMES:
  Savage---------------$ 5.95    Murder on the Atlantic-------- $5.95
  Jet Fighter----------- 5.95    The Third Courier-------------  5.95
  Jet Fighter II-------- 5.95    Symantec Game Pack.($30 retail) 5.95

--->SUPER DEAL! Take all 6 games for only $36. and shipping is free.
=======================================================================

     ------>BEST DEAL---BOTH packages only $65 delivered!<------
Thank you.

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 08:47:52 -0700
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On Sun, 9 Aug 1998, Jeff MacDowell wrote:

> Where did this forward come from?  I am interested in finding other used
> DOS programs?

A usenet newsgroup named: misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.software



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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 06:47:28 -0500
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To all-

Tired of uploading Pocket Quicken to Quicken98.  Since I don't use most of
the Qu98 functions anyway, I would like to try Qu 8.0 DOS.  Anybody not
using and willing to sell?  I have v6 DOS but need Scheduled transactions
feature.

Thanks.
Jeff

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 11:11:41 -0400
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If you are looking for a simple and convenient way of sending/receiving e-mail
on your 200LX, look into PALMTOP.COM.

This service uses your built in CC:MAIL application and is free.

The only downside is that an 800 number is not available, so you do have to pay
for the phone call.  However, the files are binary and connect time is short.

For more info go to:  http://www.palmtop.com


Michael Stocker
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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 11:13:52 -0400
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I highly recommend the Kensington Palmtop Wetsuit 2.0 for the 200LX.

As previously noted, this is a flexible thin neoprene zippered cover with nylon
on both sides.

Features:
  - Zippered outside pocket
  - Attaches to top and bottom of 200LX's case using self stick Velcro tabs
(provided)
  - Adds very little bulk or weight
  - Water/dirt resistant
  - Reasonable protection of your 200LX when dropped
  - Comes only in black
  - Easy access to left and right side ports/slots when zipper is open
  - Priced <$10

Possible improvements:
  - More colors
  - Add a belt loop

If you purchase one, I suggest that you buy a strip of self stick Velcro tape
and run it along the full length on the top and bottom of the case.  This holds
the cover on more securely and provides more stability when typing on a hard
flat surface.

Also, for the price, get two.  They can get dirty and you will have a spare
while washing the other.

Source:
http://store.daytimer.com/application/modules/app_module/templates/daytimer_home

.htm

Follow the links:
  Technology Products -> Computer Cases -> Palmtop Wetsuit

There are other sources where you might save $1 or $2, but I have delt with
Daytimer for the last 15 years without problems.


Michael Stocker
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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 03:33:59 -0600
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              Jan Allbright <wharfrat@PCISYS.NET>
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Hummm. Nothing like having the list down for a couple of days to make you
check other resources -- 8-)

Did an archive search in SUPER and found three hits - two questions and an
answer...

Turns out that you need to unload the AM and go to DOS - then everything
works OK.

If you have a Garmin GPS and would like near unlimited track log memory -
you should check out GARDOWND...

On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Jan Allbright wrote:

> grrrrrrr.....
>
> I found a bit of software called GARDOWND that is supposed to be a DOS
> program that will upload / download waypoints, tracks, etc. from a garmin
> GPS unit. When I try to run the program from the DOS command line I am
> rewarded with a "cannot execute" message. Yet when I execute it from the
> filer - it works ... but since it is param driven it just coughs up the
> param list. It also work when called from a batch file from the command
> line.
>
> What gives?
>
> -or-
> Does anyone know of a freeware program that will suck the tracks out of a
> Garmin GPS into a text file????
>
> TIA
>
> ---
> Jan Allbright FF/EMT-B
>  "36-92" - Peyton Volunteer Fire Department
>      KC0BUY - 146.970(-) 100Hz PL Col. Springs, CO
>        jan.allbright@usa.net - kc0buy@usa.net
>    SPAMMERS - mail me and get 1,000 copies in return!
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Okay, I've gotten LXTCP and LXPOP up and running, but am stuck
trying to get the Palmtop News Reader going.  Ths documents say
to edit PNR.CFG and place it into C:\_DAT, but there is no PNR.CFG
included in either the source or the binary distributions.  I
could guess at some settings, but it sounds as if there are
quite a number of them.  Could someone who has a copy of PNR.CFG
please e-mail it to me?

Thanks very much,

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <5fc7762e.35cd2fa4@aol.com> from "Cathy Schlim" at Aug 9,
              98 01:12:03 am
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> Does anyone have an idea where I can get GWBasic?   I find all sorts of
> programs for it, but I can't find GWBasic itself.  Would appreciate any help!!
>
Cathy:

It used to come with versions of DOS.  For example, if you have an old
copy of DOS 5.0 (which is what the palmtop uses), check on the SUPPLEMENTAL
disk, I believe.  Now whether you can legally use it on your palmtop is
yet another issue.  I asked this question awhile back, and I think the
technical answer is that your HP license doesn't cover this extra software
not originally provided with the palmtop.  But if you separately own a
copy of DOS 5.0 that you otherwise aren't using on your desktop, I would
think you'd be covered.  I'm not a lawyer.

-Chris Lott



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> What gives?

I don't think GARDOWN will run on our palmtop... BUT...

> -or-
> Does anyone know of a freeware program that will suck the tracks out of a
> Garmin GPS into a text file????

Get a copy of G7TO - an excellent up/down load program for your
Garmin (and perhaps some other) GPS receivers.

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 06:45:46 -0500
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Subject:      Re: used computer store
In-Reply-To:  <00a601bdc223$b0afd840$243ed2d0@james> from "James R. Hall" at
              Aug 7, 98 11:51:56 am
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> Hi, I was wondering if anyone in Dayton knew if a 'used computer' store was
> still open, it's called "computer renaissance". I think it's in Dayton... I
> SNIP...

That's funny.  We have a used computer store here in Huntsville with
the same name!  I thought, although I haven't inquired, that it was a
strictly local business, not part of a chain.  Now I'll have to go ask!

-Chris

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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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>
>You should definitely check this out then ..
>
>                http://www.newdealinc.com/
>
>>From their web page:
>       fraction of the cost of purchasing and equipping new
>       machines. As a result, schools can now upgrade their
>       computers economically through software, rather than
>       replacement, and improve their student-to-computer
>       ratios dramatically."


Looks like re-packaged GeoWorks to me, used it for about a
year on an old 286, not bad, however in them days (5-6 years
ago) it had useless COMMS.

looks like they have updated with a TC/IP stack and web
browser, could envisage you might get it running on a 64Mb
200LX if you were determined.

Good to see someone trying to breathe life into the old 286
and 386's.

Best regards.....Liam

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Subject:      Re: HP200LX Pocket Quicken in Windows!
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>Ever wished you could use your pocket quicken files on Windows
without
>resorting to the trial and tribulations of the connectivity pack?
Well, I'm
>in the process of writing a program which runs quite well under Win
NT / 95
>and am going to start testing version for Win 3.1 and 98. I am
thinking of
>selling it as shareware, but would like to know if anyone out there
would
>be interested? I am also working on a win NT / 95 version of the
>appointment book / database / phonebook / notebook.
>I need to know of the general consensus before I invest more time in
>debugging and writing help files to go with the package.
> ramesh.r@btinternet.com


Where do I send the money 8-),  If you write this program to work on
Win 98 & NT you will be blessed by every HP200 owner that
is making the gut wrenching decision to offload their precious HP
for these yuppie HPC and PPC's.

I have copied this to the HP List server so you may get more replies

Regards.....Liam

| Industrial Projects  (Liam Michael Early)
| P.O. Box 1061, Bunbury, W.Australia 6231
| Ph/Fx: +61 8  9721 8506  Mob. 0412 909 684
| e-mail 1:  industrial_projects@technologist.com
| e-mail 2:  danaan@opera.iinet.net.au

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:12:25 -0400
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Re: WTB: Quicken V8.0 DOS
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At 06:47 AM 8/9/98 -0500, you wrote:
>To all-
>
>Tired of uploading Pocket Quicken to Quicken98.  Since I don't use most of
>the Qu98 functions anyway, I would like to try Qu 8.0 DOS.  Anybody not
>using and willing to sell?  I have v6 DOS but need Scheduled transactions
>feature.

Visit:
Recycled Software
http://members.aol.com/recycledsw/
Call: 1-800-851-2425

also for the person that was looking for ACT! for Windows 2.0.

HTH

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:38:40 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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Subject:      Re: lifespan of backup battery
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At 09:46 AM 8/7/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Can anyone tell me the expected lifespan of the backup battery? I've had
>my 200LX for 2-3 years and the backup battery still reads 3.0 V (in
>battlog). How much longer can I expect?

That depends on how often you try to use your plamtop with low main batteries.

It's good practice to replace the backup battery once a year whether it
needs it or not.
You don't want to get stuck somewhere with a low backup you can't replace
and then loose data.

Have a good Day,
Owen Samuelson

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:44:24 -0400
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Man the solver function for calculating Easter Day is cool. Check out the
PTP Vol 7 #4, 1998 page 17.

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 00:11:09 -0500
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              Jon Carson <jonc@WIN.BRIGHT.NET>
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At 11:11 AM 8/9/98 -0400, you wrote:
>If you are looking for a simple and convenient way of sending/receiving
e-mail
>on your 200LX, look into PALMTOP.COM.
>
>This service uses your built in CC:MAIL application and is free.
>
>The only downside is that an 800 number is not available, so you do have
to pay
>for the phone call.  However, the files are binary and connect time is short.
>
>For more info go to:  http://www.palmtop.com
>
>

Hi,

I started using it and kept track of my connection charges which were
anywhere from $.13 to $.25 per connection.  This is reasonably cheap as far
as I'm concerned.

This service also offers a permanent POP3/SMTP account for a one time fee
of $60.00.  I am still thinking about this one though.

I am not connected with palmtop.com in any way....just a curious user.

BTW: I think the builtin cc:Mail app is very nice.

Jon

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Hi There,

If I have a device driver loaded in config.sys and I would like to load
this from autoexec.bat instead- how can I do this?

Is it possible to convert a device driver (xxx.sys) to a xxx.com file? Or
is there any other trick that will work fine?

I would highly appreciate a reply.

Thanks and Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 14:00:53 -0600
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Hi Stan --

I am very interested in one of the modems.  Please advise how I can go about
it.  Have been looking for an inexpensive low current draw modem for use
with e-mail.  Thanks for putting this out on the list and hope to hear from
you soon.

Mike

Stan Hall wrote:

> I have quite a few Megahertz X-Jack PCMCIA 14.4 modems (XJ1144) for
> sale.  All are used, but have been tested with a 200LX and are verified
> working.  Cosmetically good, except for light scratches from being
> inserted and removed.  These are bare modems only and do not include any
> documentation or software (not needed for a HPLX anyway). I also have a
> few modems which are a little uglier, with excessive scratches or
> "property of" stickers at a discount.
>
> These modems are known to work well with the HPLX and have a low current
> draw.  These work just as well as the "New in Box" XJ1144 modems that I
> sold at $50 each several months ago.
>
> I will provide a 30 day warranty and *FREE* shipping in the US.  I would
> prefer to ship in the US only, but will consider other arrangements.
>
> Cost is $25 for each modem including shipping in the US OR $25 for the
> first modem and $20 for an additional "ugly" modem. If I run out of
> "ugly" modems, I will ship the "pretty" ones for the same price.
>
> If you are interested please email me direct and please do not respond
> to the list.  Additional information at:
>    http://www.telepath.com/pillar/xjack.html
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stan
>
> --
> Stan Hall
> Pillar Communication
> http://www.telepath.com/pillar
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     Rebecca A. Elliott (E-Mail: becki@micron.net)
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On Mon, 10 Aug 1998, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> If I have a device driver loaded in config.sys and I would like to load
> this from autoexec.bat instead- how can I do this?
>
> Is it possible to convert a device driver (xxx.sys) to a xxx.com file? Or
> is there any other trick that will work fine?

There are various programs that will attempt to load a device driver after
config.sys.  One of these is called CTLOAD.COM and can be found at the
Creative Labs FTP site.  I think I have one around here called DEVICE.COM.
I'll see if I can find it.  Be warned, though-- often they don't work, or
they do work but crash the machine.

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:23:31 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Tinyprog, Diet, PKZIP, et al

TINYPROG et al

On S.U.P.E.R.  palmtom.net.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:07:28 -0500
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Subject:      Re: HP200LX Pocket Quicken in Windows!

Bah Humbug with windows.
I'd just like LX Quicken to work with
the connectivity pack in its icon on DOS.

No, don't tell me it already does.

Semper Mobilis,
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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:24:59 -0500
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Subject:      64 NB Flash card

If your considering a flash disk.
here's a thought.

Get a Simple 64MB ATA flash.
It seems to be the best (now).
at $329 or less, its $5.14/MB.
That cheeper than any other one.

...also at 64MB you'll be ready for the
64MB C: when you upgrade :)  You know
how it is when yor C: is bigger than yor
backup :>   If not, yor BU will always
ATTIC storage space.

Of course more is better but the 80MB at
$420 is $5.25/MB. Today Viking is $322
at 4.03/MB

Today I found Viking is $270 for 64MB.
that makes it $4.22/MB.  Hmmmmmmm
Can anyone beat that?

Semper Mobilis,
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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:35:11 -0700
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              "David R. Birch" <drbirch@EXECPC.COM>
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We also have a Computer Renaissance used computer store in the
Milwaukee, WI area, but I don't know if it's part of a chain.

David

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:33:16 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Device Drivers- a question..

Jorgen

Usually device drivers can only be loaded
from config.sys while some file files can
be load from both (as my FK).  As you know
config.sys is read first to set up sys params
after a point as when autoexec file is loaded
it can not influence the system area unless
it was loadd at the appropriate time.

As can be seen with foll reply:
"There are various programs that will attempt
to load a device driver after config.sys.
One of these is called CTLOAD.COM and can be
found at the Creative Labs FTP site.  I think
I have one around here called DEVICE.COM.
I'll see if I can find it.  Be warned, though
-- often they don't work, or they do work but
crash the machine."

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yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:34:21 -0500
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              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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This is a follow up to my earlier message.

I installed the NECX PCMCIA reader in my PC, and installed as well the
necessary drivers (carddrv.exe at least) from the Win95 CD-ROM

When I insert the card I hear the audible signal that the card was
installed OK, however, I cannot find a drive letter anywhere on the
computer for the PCMCIA card. The computer does recognize that the card is
there because when I click on the PCMCIA icon, it shows a card in socket 2
that must be stopped before removing.

Does anyone have any ideas?


Thanks

Alan

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:45:23 -0500
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              James <jb@MEGSINET.NET>
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Computer Renaissance is a chain. They have 208 stores in 45 states and 8
provinces with another 81 on the way 6/27/98.  Check the web site for store
locations.

http://www.cr1.com

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> David R. Birch
> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 1998 6:35 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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>
> We also have a Computer Renaissance used computer store in the
> Milwaukee, WI area, but I don't know if it's part of a chain.
>
> David

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 18:16:38 EDT
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I spent an hour finding the typo in my easter solver equation, coppied from
the Palm Top Paper, Vol. 7, #4.  It finally works!  To save anyone else that
trouble, here is the text.  Just copy it from the e-mail, paste it into
solver.  At least is works for the couple of examples which I cross-checked.
If anyone finds a problem, pls let me know.

Lynn M. Cavendish

<Start>

Sunday =
0*l(y,ip(year))+0*l(g,mod(g(y),19)+1)+0*l(c,ip(g(y)/100)+1)+0*l(x,ip(3*g(c)/4)
-12)+0*l(z,ip((8*g(c)+5)/25)-5)+0*l(d,ip(5*
g(y)/4)-g(x)-10)+0*l(e,mod(11*g(g)+20+g(z)-g(x),30))+0*l(e1,
if(g(e)<0,g(e)+30,g(e)))+0*l(e2,if(g(e1)=24,g(e1)+1,if(g(e1)=25,if(g(g)>11,g(e
1)+1,g(e1)),g(e1))))+0*l(n,44-g(e2))+0*l(n1,if(g(n)<21,g(n)+30,g(n)))+0*l(n2,7
+g(n1)-mod(g(d)+g(n1),7))+
1*l(n3,if(g(n2)>31,4+(g(n2)-31)/100,3+g(n2)/100)+g(y)/1e6)

<End>

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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 00:31:39 -0000
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              PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Comments:     Originally-From: jim.henry@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)
From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193
Subject:      $10 megahertz modems
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SOL.3.96.980807101728.23940B-100000@post>

HM>For those inquiring about modems, I recently purchased some MXJ144
  >Megahertz 14.4 X-jack PCMCIA modems from "Resource Concepts Internet
  >Store"  (internetsales@resourcesales.com).  Price was $10 each, but I
  >don't remember the shipping.

Do they work with the 200LX?  Do they come with a driver?  TIA.

--
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(610)259-2198 - FAX   | www.airpower.com  jim@AirGunHQ.com
(610)259-2193 - BBS   | Telnet://airpower.dyn.ml.org

 * 1st 2.00 #9525 * It said Insert disk #3 , but only two will fit.

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 19:54:07 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Magnify!? (LX200)
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Hi Linh,

> D&A?  Where's their site?

I tried replying to your email address, but it bounced back
telling me that lnguyen@COMPUSNET.COM is invalid.

Our Web page is www.dasoft.com. You can also write to me
directly at info@dasoft.com.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 13:28:12 +0700
Reply-To:     "Sentot@Bigfoot" <sentot@bigfoot.com>
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From:         "Sentot@Bigfoot" <sentot@BIGFOOT.COM>
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I used "sync" term as used by Norton Commander.  Sorry that it
confuses mailing list readers.

NC v5.0 is an "old" software (1995) so don't expect too much
"automation".  Basically, NC compares name & date of files in
2 directories and marks new & newer files in both directories.
Then with a press of a function key you can copy or move marked
files from one subdirectory to another.

I believe LapLink v5.0 can do the same operations.

The best part is probably the "cloning" command.  So if you
have serial (null modem) cable, you can "hook-up" your HP200LX
to any PC computer with serial port.

Cheers,
Sentot

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To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu <HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu>
Date: Sunday, August 09, 1998 10:46
Subject: Re: Norton Commander v5.0


When you say sync, does this automatically remove files from the desktop
directory tree which you have erased from the HP?  Or do you have to
"clean up" manually to remove items from your desktop that you have
deleted from the hp?

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Date:         Sun, 9 Aug 1998 23:25:03 -0400
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Subject:      Re: HP200LX Pocket Quicken in Windows!
Comments: To: "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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I would definitely be in line to purchase these!!!

Keep us up to date, or share the developer's contact info...

Steve


At 09:25 PM 8/9/98 +0800, you wrote:
>>Ever wished you could use your pocket quicken files on Windows
>without
>>resorting to the trial and tribulations of the connectivity pack?
>Well, I'm
>>in the process of writing a program which runs quite well under Win
>NT / 95
>>and am going to start testing version for Win 3.1 and 98. I am
>thinking of
>>selling it as shareware, but would like to know if anyone out there
>would
>>be interested? I am also working on a win NT / 95 version of the
>>appointment book / database / phonebook / notebook.
>>I need to know of the general consensus before I invest more time in
>>debugging and writing help files to go with the package.
>> ramesh.r@btinternet.com
>
>
>Where do I send the money 8-),  If you write this program to work on
>Win 98 & NT you will be blessed by every HP200 owner that
>is making the gut wrenching decision to offload their precious HP
>for these yuppie HPC and PPC's.
>
>I have copied this to the HP List server so you may get more replies
>
>Regards.....Liam
>
>| Industrial Projects  (Liam Michael Early)
>| P.O. Box 1061, Bunbury, W.Australia 6231
>| Ph/Fx: +61 8  9721 8506  Mob. 0412 909 684
>| e-mail 1:  industrial_projects@technologist.com
>| e-mail 2:  danaan@opera.iinet.net.au
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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 07:31:52 -0400
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              John Lori <jmlwfg@PANETWORK.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Act 4.0 > Hplx
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I got around the ACT 4.0 problem with my HP200, by keeping ACT3.0 on my
computer and trasfering a backup copy of 4.0 to 30. and then lining.
Its  a pain, but it works.

Russell Hemery wrote:
>
> On 1998-08-06 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said:
>    >--=====================_1075095==_.ALT
>    >I can not believe this.. I asked for help.. got none.. all the
>    >replies I got were off list - me too's.. I am faced with the
>    >prospect of changing from my trusty 200LX to a "CE" machine because
>    >ACT 4.0x no longer supports my LX.. I posted earlier asking for
>    >help getting my ACT 4.0 data into my 200LX... either in ACT for
>    >Palmtops 1.1.1 format, or barring that.. HP format.. no one helped
> Hi Tonia
>
> I am not familiar with Act but wonder if you can print or save as a vanilla
> text file?  If so it would be possible to import from DOS into the LX.
>
> Any idea of the format within ACT?
>
> Russell
> Net-Tamer V 1.11P - Test Drive
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                Wharton Financial Group LLC
          Providing Merger & Acquisition, Corporate Finance,
          & Advisory Services to Middle-Market Companies

          PO Box 67300,  Harisburg, PA 17106-7300
          Phone  717-730-3734   Fax  717-730-3713
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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 07:34:21 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Fw: HP200LX + Accessories
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Bill,
Is your unit still available, Id be interested?

Eamil me at jml_wfg@yahoo.com

Thanks!!

jgetz wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Sprague <eugarps@ibm.net>
> Newsgroups:
> alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp,comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.palmtops,misc.forsale.c
> omputers.pc-specific.portables
> Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 2:53 PM
> Subject: FS: HP200LX + Accessories
>
> >For Sale:
> >
> >HP200LX/4 Meg
> >EXP 1414LXM (Fax/Modem/Memory Card) 8 Meg (Includes Fax Software)
> >HP 5 Meg Flashcard
> >HP A/C Adapter (Folding Prong Model)
> >WWW/LX (Web Browser and News and E'mail Client)
> >Draft Choice (CAD)
> >Quick LX (Typing assistant)
> >acCIS (Compuserve Offline Reader)
> >ABC LX (Battery Charging Utility
> >Time Tracker (Time Billing Software)
> >Intellisync (Puma's Sync Software)
> >20 or so Palm Top Papers
> >Wetsuit Case
> >Targus Double Wallet Case
> >Parallel Cable (Greenwich)
> >Serial Cable
> >Lotus 123 Microref Book
> >DOS Microref Book
> >All Original Documents and unused name plate
> >Sorry, warranty card's been sent in.
> >
> >Best offer over $400.00 and you pay the shipping via FEDEX COD.  Just send
> >me your ZIP code and I'll send you the fees.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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          & Advisory Services to Middle-Market Companies

          PO Box 67300,  Harisburg, PA 17106-7300
          Phone  717-730-3734   Fax  717-730-3713
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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:11:36 -0400
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              John Guenther <jguenthe@NAFIS.FP.TRW.COM>
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I don't see what the problem his here.  If you have the Pocket Quickem addin
available from Intuit, it works fine.  I have Quicken 98 and the addin for
Pocket Quicken and all works great.  There is an Icon on the quicken menu
bar after you install the addin and you just plug the Hp200 in, and click on
the icon and every thing works as Quicken designed it.  I purchased Pocket
Quicken Connect 2.2 from Intuit in May, installed it with my Quicken98 and
all works fine.  You may have to call them since I don't see it on the WEB
store but it is in the support section of www.intuit.com.

John Guenther

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn Behalf Of
> Steve Meisner
> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 1998 11:25 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: HP200LX Pocket Quicken in Windows!
>
>
> I would definitely be in line to purchase these!!!
>
> Keep us up to date, or share the developer's contact info...
>
> Steve
>
>
> At 09:25 PM 8/9/98 +0800, you wrote:
> >>Ever wished you could use your pocket quicken files on Windows
> >without
> >>resorting to the trial and tribulations of the connectivity pack?
> >Well, I'm
> >>in the process of writing a program which runs quite well under Win
> >NT / 95
> >>and am going to start testing version for Win 3.1 and 98. I am
> >thinking of
> >>selling it as shareware, but would like to know if anyone out there
> >would
> >>be interested? I am also working on a win NT / 95 version of the
> >>appointment book / database / phonebook / notebook.
> >>I need to know of the general consensus before I invest more time in
> >>debugging and writing help files to go with the package.
> >> ramesh.r@btinternet.com
> >
> >
> >Where do I send the money 8-),  If you write this program to work on
> >Win 98 & NT you will be blessed by every HP200 owner that
> >is making the gut wrenching decision to offload their precious HP
> >for these yuppie HPC and PPC's.
> >
> >I have copied this to the HP List server so you may get more replies
> >
> >Regards.....Liam
> >
> >| Industrial Projects  (Liam Michael Early)
> >| P.O. Box 1061, Bunbury, W.Australia 6231
> >| Ph/Fx: +61 8  9721 8506  Mob. 0412 909 684
> >| e-mail 1:  industrial_projects@technologist.com
> >| e-mail 2:  danaan@opera.iinet.net.au
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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 20:59:45 +0800
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              Little Fish <yuml@NETVIGATOR.COM>
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Sorry. but I am using 64mB ATA which is slower than the 32MB upgrade.
Particular slow when I run 'DIR'

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From: al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 9:40 PM
Subject: Flash disk


>Morning list
>If your considering a flash disk.
>here's a thought.
>
>Get a Simple 64MB ATA flash.
>It seems to be the best (now).
>at $236 or less, its $4.19/MB.
>That cheeper than any other one.
>
>...also at 64MB you'll be ready for the
>64MB C: when you upgrade :)  You know
>how it is when yor C: is bigger than yor
>backup :>   If not, yor BU will always
>ATTIC storage space.
>
>Of course more is better but the 80MB at
>$344 is $4.30/MB.
>
>Semper Mobilis,
>yor pal al :) .............
>
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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 21:29:09 +0800
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              Little Fish <yuml@NETVIGATOR.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Norton Commander v5.0
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Try NC 4.0
The basic programmes (NC.exe NCMAIN.exe NC.INI & NC.CFG) only take up 210K
Not only can it sync like 5.0
It also uses com1 port to transfer data at 192K speed (one master & one
slave).
Moreover, when I include NC accessories I can do online zip/unzip, view 123
files, pcx, WP and dbf files. Also use its terminal like telnet and
compuserve login.
Execellent s/w. You should try.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sentot@Bigfoot <sentot@bigfoot.com>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, August 09, 1998 10:02 AM
Subject: Norton Commander v5.0


>I just tried Norton Commander v5.0 on my 200LX.  It really
>made my day!  Just like when I "found" Zip file transfer
>utility a few months back.
>
>With NC 5.0 on my 200LX and my desktop I can:
>+ synchronize between 2 directories (i.e. local & remote);
>+ do housekeeping on my desktop with 200LX as the slave unit;
>+ copy, move, delete, rename directories/files on 200LX better
>than the built-in Filer.
>
>NC v5.0 basic programs (nc.exe, ncmain.exe, nc.msg) takes up
>250Kb diskspace.  It can also clone itself to another computer
>as well.
>
>Sentot
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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 21:32:17 +0800
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You may consider MSDOS's QBasic. It is free of charge. When you buy MSDOS 5
or 6. It comes with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cathy Schlim <CSchlim@AOL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, August 09, 1998 1:17 PM
Subject: GWBasic


>Does anyone have an idea where I can get GWBasic?   I find all sorts of
>programs for it, but I can't find GWBasic itself.  Would appreciate any
help!!
>
>Cathy
>
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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 21:31:00 +0800
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Subject:      Re: QuickBASIC on HP200LX?
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I don't write DOS basic often, but as far as I know, may be you need to
write a low level com port access routine rather than using basic's routine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert H. Pigford <profengr@delanet.com>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, August 09, 1998 10:15 AM
Subject: QuickBASIC on HP200LX?


>Hello all,
>
>I would like to do BASIC programming on my 2MB HP200LX.  I have MS
>QuickBASIC v4.5 left over from my DOS desktop, and I like to use it.
>I can get QB45 to run on the HP200LX, but QB45 does not correctly access
>the serial port, and I cannot redirect LPT outputs to the COM1 port.
>Are there DOS variables or other settings to take care of this, or is it
>a lost cause?
>
>Thanks for your guidance & experience.
>
>        Bob
>
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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:07:34 -0400
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              JOHN_LINKOWSKY%NORTHAMERICA@FIRMENICH.COM
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Does anyone have or know of where I can get the DOS drivers for the
Megahertz XJ1144 PCMCIA modem?  I tried the Megahertz/3com website, but
they don't seem to have the drivers I am looking for.  I am trying to get
this modem to work with my 200LX.

Thanks,
John Linkowsky

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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 07:36:25 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Megahertz XJ1144 Modem
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On Mon, 10 Aug 1998, John Linkowsky wrote:

> Does anyone have or know of where I can get the DOS drivers for the
> Megahertz XJ1144 PCMCIA modem?  I tried the Megahertz/3com website, but
> they don't seem to have the drivers I am looking for.  I am trying to get
> this modem to work with my 200LX.

I use the XJ1144 on my 200LX using Datacomm, NetTamer and WWW/LX and none
require any additional drivers, nor have I ever loaded any. Let me know what
program(s) you're having problems using the XJ1144 with. For Datacomm at
least, the Modem Init string on mine is just set to "&F M0", tho I think
"&F"  is all I used until recently. I now swap between the XJ1144 and a
pocketmodem so I need to switch the speaker off using the "M0".

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 07:54:20 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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You might need to add D:\CIC100 /GEN 1 to your autoexec.bat file.
Otherwise, no additional driver should be needed.

On Mon, 10 Aug 1998, John Linkowsky wrote:

> Does anyone have or know of where I can get the DOS drivers for the
> Megahertz XJ1144 PCMCIA modem?  I tried the Megahertz/3com website, but
> they don't seem to have the drivers I am looking for.  I am trying to get
> this modem to work with my 200LX.

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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 08:48:21 -0600
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              "Daryl H. Allred" <dha@HPFIDHA.FC.HP.COM>
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I have several reference pages in HTML format I want to keep on my palmtop.
Due to a space crunch I would like to keep them compressed.  Is there a way to
leave them compressed but still view them with HV without manually
uncompressing them each time I wish to view them?

Daryl Allred

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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:00:12 -0600
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I know it's been on the list before but where can you get an inexpensive
serial cable to connect the palmtop to a PC? I bought one from Edu-Calc
about a year ago but I know they're no longer in business.
--
Tom Lange

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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 12:32:53 -0400
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There's a program called zipray that uses a technique for viewing
compresses text files on the fly. It uses the zip program to uncompress
the file to <stdout> and then Van Buergs list program reads then. I
don't think that HV will read files that are piped to it but you may be
able to write a little program that let's you select a file to read,
uncompress to a temp area, read the file and delete or recompress(if
changes made) when done. This get's a lot more complicated if you have
to follow links to other files that are compressed.

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Daryl H. Allred mailto:dha@HPFIDHA.FC.HP.COM
                Sent:   Monday, August 10, 1998 10:48 AM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        HPLX-L Compressed HTML files

                I have several reference pages in HTML format I want to
keep on my palmtop.
                Due to a space crunch I would like to keep them
compressed.  Is there a way to
                leave them compressed but still view them with HV
without manually
                uncompressing them each time I wish to view them?

                Daryl Allred

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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 12:35:41 -0400
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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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     The book "Undocumented DOS" has a utility to load device drivers
from the command line.  I have seen similar utilities in the usual
repositories, but this on has source code and an explanation of inner
workings.  BTW, converting a *.SYS to a *.COM/*.EXE would load the
DOS environment if I understand correctly.  A bit inefficient.

Steve




"Date:    Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:10:41 +0800
From:    Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject: Device Drivers- a question..

Hi There,

If I have a device driver loaded in config.sys and I would like to load
this from autoexec.bat instead- how can I do this?

Is it possible to convert a device driver (xxx.sys) to a xxx.com file? Or
is there any other trick that will work fine?

I would highly appreciate a reply.

Thanks and Regards,

Jorgen"

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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:49:47 -0600
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              Michael Cheverton <michev@IBM.NET>
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Subject:      Re: WTB: serial cable
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Hi Tom,

I have a cable which is sitting around gathering dust - please feel free to
make an offer.

I live in Colorado.

Cheers,
mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas C. Lange <tclange@USWEST.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Monday, August 10, 1998 9:10 AM
Subject: WTB: serial cable


>I know it's been on the list before but where can you get an inexpensive
>serial cable to connect the palmtop to a PC? I bought one from Edu-Calc
>about a year ago but I know they're no longer in business.
>--
>Tom Lange
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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:56:29 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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I have a similar problem, however it runs the other direction.  I'm sure
some/most of the readers of the list (HPLX-L) are familiar with using a
Zip drive via a TransPC card, and as such are aware that the driver for
LPT1 support is loaded at the DOS prompt.  This requirement
(limitation?) of the TransPC card prevents loading Zip drivers in
CONFIG.SYS.  Does anyone know of a way (other than INSTALL) to get the
TransPC driver installed _before_ DOS, and therefore allowing the Zip
CONFIG.SYS level drivers to load?

Phil

>"Date:    Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:10:41 +0800
>From:    Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
>Subject: Device Drivers- a question..
>
>Hi There,
>
>If I have a device driver loaded in config.sys and I would like to load
>this from autoexec.bat instead- how can I do this?
>
>Is it possible to convert a device driver (xxx.sys) to a xxx.com file? Or
>is there any other trick that will work fine?
>
>I would highly appreciate a reply.
>
>Thanks and Regards,
>
>Jorgen"
>

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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 13:32:08 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Here's a link for those of you who hunger for more Internet power in DOS:

http://www.agate.net/~tvdog/internet.html#S

Lots of good stuff...

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 14:25:48 -0400
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              Larry Feldman <lfeldman@VOICENET.COM>
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You might check out diet. I haven't used it in some time, but as I recall,
you can compress the html files with diet. When you want to read them with
HV (or any other program) you launch diet as a TSR - which will then allow
you to read/view them. After you are done - unload the TSR.

Larry

On Mon, 10 Aug 1998, Daryl H. Allred wrote:

> I have several reference pages in HTML format I want to keep on my palmtop.
> Due to a space crunch I would like to keep them compressed.  Is there a way to
> leave them compressed but still view them with HV without manually
> uncompressing them each time I wish to view them?
>
> Daryl Allred
>
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Date:         Sat, 8 Aug 1998 19:12:27 +0100
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              John Waller <Hp100Lx@JWALLER.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Date sent:              Thu, 6 Aug 1998 11:36:28 -0400
From:                   John Guenther <jguenthe@NAFIS.FP.TRW.COM>
Subject:                Syncing the Hp200lx with Outlook98

> .......
> Since the folks at Puma Technology obviously have the technology in house to
> sync Palm Pilots etc with Outlook98, why can't they merge that technology
> with what they also have for the 200lx and give us a method of syncing the
> 200lx with Outlook98.  I am sure I am not the only one who would like a
> solution to this problem, someone mentioned ACT 4.0 to the 200lx, they
> should be able to provide that capability also.
> .......
> I don't really want to reinvent the wheel here, but I need to be able to
> sync up with Outlook98.  If I have to do this myself I will, but I would
> much rather pay for an upgrade to Intellisync than buy the SDK for the 200lx
> and the Microsoft development tools and spend many hours developing a
> solution to this problem.  Is anyone else out there interested in this
> capability
>

I couldn't agree more. I currently use Intellisync and could also think of some
other features that could be added. Like a sync to Access or an interface to
programatically modified the data that is being transfered. I guess the ideal
solution would be for Puma to allow the x00LX user community access to their
source code but somehow I doubt that that will happen!

John

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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 14:36:42 -0400
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You can obtain all accessories from Thaddeus Computing


Thomas C. Lange wrote:
>
> I know it's been on the list before but where can you get an inexpensive
> serial cable to connect the palmtop to a PC? I bought one from Edu-Calc
> about a year ago but I know they're no longer in business.
> --
> Tom Lange
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          & Advisory Services to Middle-Market Companies

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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 15:34:41 -0400
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Mon, 10 Aug 1998 15:18:27 -0500 (EST)

Fellow Palmtoppers:

     The HPLX-L Command Ctr archives have just been updated. As always,
please notify me it there are any problems.

Cheers,

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From:         Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
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You don't need a driver for the ZIP drive. Run the guest
program on a machine that is already running. Guest
tests the hardware and selects a post-boot "driver" to
do the job. You may be able to only copy the one
you need to the LX.

Phil Drummond wrote:

> I have a similar problem, however it runs the other direction.  I'm sure
> some/most of the readers of the list (HPLX-L) are familiar with using a
> Zip drive via a TransPC card, and as such are aware that the driver for
> LPT1 support is loaded at the DOS prompt.  This requirement
> (limitation?) of the TransPC card prevents loading Zip drivers in
> CONFIG.SYS.  Does anyone know of a way (other than INSTALL) to get the
> TransPC driver installed _before_ DOS, and therefore allowing the Zip
> CONFIG.SYS level drivers to load?
>
> Phil
>
> >"Date:    Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:10:41 +0800
> >From:    Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
> >Subject: Device Drivers- a question..
> >
> >Hi There,
> >
> >If I have a device driver loaded in config.sys and I would like to load
> >this from autoexec.bat instead- how can I do this?
> >
> >Is it possible to convert a device driver (xxx.sys) to a xxx.com file? Or
> >is there any other trick that will work fine?
> >
> >I would highly appreciate a reply.
> >
> >Thanks and Regards,
> >
> >Jorgen"
> >
>
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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 16:02:42 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: $10 NECX PCMCIA Reader

> Where did you folks find a $10 ATA card reader?
>
> Tom LaRoche
> tom_laroche@hp.com <mailto:tom_laroche@hp.com>
>

Go to www.necx.com and follow the links to the outlet center.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 16:06:26 EST
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Subject:      Re: NECX PCMCIA and Win95

> I may have missed an earlier posting, but couldn't find anything in the
> archive so...
>
> I bought one of the readers, installed it, but could find the crdrdr.exe
> file on my Win 95 CD-ROM or on the Microsoft site.
>
> What software, drivers, etc do I need to make the card reader work with
> Win95, particularly to allow hot swapping. And, where do I get it and at
> what price?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
>
> Alan
>
y
By not being able to find the file do you mean that windows hardware
instllation failed when trying to find it or you were just looking
for it yourself? I have two of these cards under win95 (possibly only
osr2 and greater) and they both work with the drivers included with
windows. All I did was use the add new hardware and let it detect the
card and it did everything else.

Pete


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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 16:04:35 EST
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Subject:      Re: $10 NECX PCMCIA Reader Card-Update

> Can someone who has bought and used one of these help clarify this?
>
> Is this a complete set-up for a PC to be able to read a PCMCIA card?  Or
> is it just a plug-in ISA interface card and would still need the
> external unit to plug the PCMCIA card into?  I want to get a ST 33.6
> modem and a 40 Meg flash card and this NECX item looks like it would
> make backups a breeze.
>
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Rick S.
>

This is a conplete self contained ISA board pcmcia adaptor. The slot
in a type IV slot that come through the back of your desktop computer
(through the ISA slot cover) with an ejector button just like every
other pcmcia slot. Win95 (possibly osr2 and above) has full support
for the adaptor.

Pete


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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 22:00:41 GMT
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@IBM.NET>
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Do you play Curtis Cameron's Freecell game for the LX?
If yes then I have a small challenge for you...

I think I can Win ANY game and I want you to prove me wrong.

Version 2.4 of Freecell added Numbered games and also tells you the
number of any Random game you play.  If you find a game that either
you can't win or you think very difficult then challenge me to give
it a try; I'm tired of all the easy ones.  I've won my last 280+ games
and my head has swelled to the point that I think I'm invincable (at
least in Freecell...).

Go on, challenge me; I dare ya...
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ps- If you don't have v2.4 it's available on S.U.P.E.R.

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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 15:28:48 -0700
Reply-To:     "Tim S." <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
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I thought someone mentioned a couple of months ago that they had a database
of the amateur repeaters in California.  Did that ever make it to super?

I would like a copy of it.

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments)
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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:20:31 -0600
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              Owen Kalau <owenk@CANUCK.COM>
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anybody posted a link for WWpack.
So, here it is. There's a bit on that page, even some comparison tables.

http://kolos.uni.lodz.pl/warezak/wwpack.html

I'll be fiddling with it to see how well it holds up to its promises... =)

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Date:         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 22:22:14 -0400
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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At 09:29 PM 8/10/98 +0800, Little Fish <yuml@NETVIGATOR.COM>
 wrote:
>"Try NC 4.0.  The basic programmes (NC.exe NCMAIN.exe NC.INI & NC.CFG)
only take up 210K"

=====

Norton Commander (NC) is the best file manager I've ever used.

I use NC v2.0 and 5.0 on my HP200LX.

NC v2.0 uses much less RAM than v4.0 or 5.0.  It runs easily under the HPLX
system manager.

One of NC v5.0's many great features is that it permits you to view the
contents of files within compressed .ZIP files.

I use NC v2.0 and NC v4.0 on my HP100LX since not all NC v5.0 features
function properly on the 100LX.

For NC lovers, there is an NC version for Win 95 and Win NT that works with
long filenames.

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Date:         Mon, 10 Aug 1998 23:13:57 -0700
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Folks,

If you could bear with me a bit I'd like to go back to
the discussion of ACT! for HP.

A number of us a trying to get it working.
Act 2.11 DOS will not connect and sych with Act for HP 1.1.1
It will sych with HP95LX ACT! 1.0 but 1.0 doesn't work on the 200lx

The readme says Act for Windows 2.03 or better to link with 1.1.1

Some folks have "understood" that only 2.03 - 2.08 will work.
Others have said 3.? will link with Act! for HP ver 1.1.1

Copies of Win_Act! 2x seem hard to find.
Several venders on the Net have Act! 3.x, Plus Symantec says the current
release of ACT! 4.x includes a copy of 3x. So one can
purchase a copy of 4.x and get 3x

So
#1 What does one do to get Win_ACT! 3x to sych with Act! for HP 1.1.1?

Or

#2 Does anyone know a way to get ACT! for HP 1.0 to run on a 200lx?



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Folks,

Does anyone know where/how to obtain a copy of an old DOS program called
GrandView?

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Folks,

Does anyone have OLD copies of this they'd like to sell?

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Hi to All on the List,

After four weeks of black-out, it is good to be able to send and to
receive e-mail messages with some certainty, thanks to the help of
several people, including Al Kind (he lives up to his name!) regarding
mail to this list.  I had been attempting to send messages during this
period but it now seems as if none got through, all thanks to a
hacker!  So this message is being sent as both a test and a warning.

Up to the (unlucky) 13th July, 1998, I was receiving and sending mail
on a special set-up via one of two computers connected to a Unix
system in our laboratory library.  This was very convenient and fast,
being outside our main network and intended mainly for browsing on the
Internet, though it meant transferring mail via floppy disk to a
personal laptop and then onto my Palmtop.  On the eve of the final of
the soccer World Cup the two computers crashed.  All that could be got
out of them was a cryptic message, so it was assumed at first that it
was the World Cup virus.  Eventually the experts worked out that this
was the co-incidental work of a Melbourne hacker.

Two weeks ago this person was arrested.  It transpires that he had hit
about 1300 Australian firms causing an enormous amount of damage.
Although forensic and other laboratory data were never at risk here,
the mail system that I used has now been placed inside our network.
Fortunately I had backed up most of my mail before the hacker struck
but as result of his selfish act I have been without HPLX and other
messages for 4 weeks.  I had not realised before this just how easy it
is for an expert hacker to cause so much damage.  I pass this on as a
warning.

BTW, the message you read from Al Kind on Wed, 5 Aug 1998 re methods
of subscribing to HPLX-L, may have been prompted by my woes.  Owing to
the aftermath of the hacker's attack, it has taken time to sort out
the mess and for a while any of my e-mail messages that did get out
were carrying a corrupted address for return mail.  Automatic replies
were either bouncing or just disappearing, so that it was not possible
to get myself re-subscribed.  However, as Al says, you can always send
him a personal note.  Thank God for that!

Take care!

Barry Collins
<collib@forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX

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Hello Everyone,

As I said in an earlier message, mail from this List has not been
reaching me for the last month, so I have lost the thread of messages
regarding a possible update for the HP 100LX, which was topical just
before my system was sabotaged by a hacker.  I note in the first batch
of mail that I received today that rumours of larger upgrades for the
200LX are now in the air, so maybe there are still some users
interested in improving the good old 100LX.

In summary of the information from a month ago, it had been
established that upgrading the HP 100LX was technically possible but
difficult, with few people known to have the necessary skills or in
any event not keen to be involved commercially.  It did not look then
as if the matter might be taken further but one or two of us diehards
did not wish to let things end right there.  I then found a user in
Australia who seemed prepared to at least consider taking on the job
if the appropriate parts and instructions could be acquired.  However,
no-one had any idea of likely costs nor of the potential volume of
business.  It was at this stage that the hacker destroyed my e-mail
facilities and I lost track of things.

In order to take up the thread and make a start it is necessary to
gain some idea of just how many 100LX users would seriously consider
an upgrade, possibly to 32Mb of RAM, even if it cost somewhat more
than a similar upgrade for the 200LX.  Please give this serious
consideration because it is not likely that the subject will come up
again if the current surge of interest comes to nothing.  If it seems
that more than just a handful of 100LX users are interested, then I
shall pursue it to the next stage of looking into costs etc., as well
as trying to get a commitment from my contact to prepare an action
plan.

Perhaps at this stage those interested in upgading their 100LX could
indicate that interest together with any other relevant comments via
the Mailing List.  However, should anyone wish to contact me
personally, by all means do so.

Cheers!

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 100LX

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 16:57:30 +0900
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              Kitakubo Kazuto <kitakubo@PTC.SONY.CO.JP>
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Barry,

I'm sorry of my sabotaged reply.
Because my highest priority is 128MB now.

As far as I know, 100LX upgrade actually up to 17MB.
Case of 100LX, BNAK0 and BANK1 limits only 512kB each, I heard.
And BANK2 and BANK3 can handle at least 8MB each but I don't
know possibility of 32MB each.

If BANK2 and 3 handle 32MB each, that means 65MB 100LX!
Of course someone must write RAM disk driver.

# If I have 100LX for verification...

Best Regards,
---
Kazuto Kitakubo

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Hi there,

I am looking for a utility which converts straigt from a *.pdb file to a
*.dbf file anyone knows about such a utility?

Thans in advance

**********************************************************
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IRDETO ACCESS, a Mindport  Conditional Access  company
TCS - QA Department
The Netherlands
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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:44:49 +0000
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It depends whether you want to do it just once, to transfer
information, or to shuffle back and forth on a regular basis. It can be
done via smart clips and comma delimited import/export for the former.
Intellisync will do it for you with more grace (but not synchronize)
for the latter application.

> I am looking for a utility which converts
straigt from a *.pdb file to a > *.dbf file anyone knows about such a
utility? >  > David Sanders

Mikhail

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:59:54 +0200
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thanks for the info,

I am looking for a one way transfer let's say once a wwek, However I
don't want the hassle of using 3 programs to get to the result which is
what I am doing now.

//David

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 1:45 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: hpl200 database -->dbf
>
> It depends whether you want to do it just once, to transfer
> information, or to shuffle back and forth on a regular basis. It can
> be
> done via smart clips and comma delimited import/export for the former.
> Intellisync will do it for you with more grace (but not synchronize)
> for the latter application.
>
> > I am looking for a utility which converts
> straigt from a *.pdb file to a > *.dbf file anyone knows about such a
> utility? >  > David Sanders
>
> Mikhail
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Folks,


Anyone have any ideas on finding this program?

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:37:09 +0100
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It happened to me, it was fixed by a new motherboard fitted by HP.
Expensive but it worked.  I suspect I'd damaged it by trying to use PC
cards >150mA in it, but it could just be I dropped it once too often.

Before you send it in it's worth trying that last chance of taking out
all the batteries for a week, and then trying again.  If that's still no
go then get it repaired.  At least you get a warranty with the repair !

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:25:03 GMT
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      LXTCP Report

Well, with help from Rod Whitby and Mitch Hamm, I've gotten LXTCP
up and running.  In fact, I'm using PNR (with Memo) to write this
message, and will upload it with LXPOP.

Now that I'm over the hump it doesn't seem that it should have been
such a big deal.  I'm using a 2x 200LX and a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA
modem.

First I set up epppd.  At Mitch's suggestion I put the configuration
settings in pppd.cfg and simply invoke epppd.exe.  Wattcp.cfg is not
needed to get a PPP driver loaded, but the LXTCP apps use it.  So my
next step was to get wattcp.cfg configured.

Once that was done, I really only had to get LXPOP and PNR going.
For that I needed a suitably tailored pnr.cfg.  My stumbling block
was trying to run LXPOP from a DOS shell in SysMgr.  It didn't work
with 300k RAM, but it wasn't obvious that that was the problem.
Once I ran LXPOP within a MaxDos session, it ran fine.

All in all, I would say it is a nice way to go.  I particularly
like having an understanding of what my computer is doing.  My
configuration files follow.

Ted Heise     <theise@netins.net>      West Lafayette, IN, USA




PPPD.CFG
--------
com2
38400
crtscts
connect "chat '' AT&F OK ATDT7757000 CONNECT"
user "Ptheise"
passwd "******"
namsrv 206.64.96.2
namsrv 206.64.96.3


WATTCP.CFG
----------
my_ip=bootp                        # number is assigned dynamically
domainslist="nlci.com"
smtp.server=smtp.nlci.com
pop.server=pop3.netins.net
pop.username=theise
lxpop.spooldir=c:\lxtcp\mailbox
lxpop.nodelete=smtp
gateway=206.64.96.1
netmask=255.255.255.0


PNR.CFG
-------
PNR
user=theise
host=netins.net
name=Theodore Heise
folder=c:\lxtcp\filed
spool=c:\lxtcp\mailbox

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 09:04:22 -0400
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              Larry Feldman <lfeldman@VOICENET.COM>
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Patrick,

What a GREAT program :) It was last distributed by Broderbund I think,
after having started life as a shareware product called "Instant Recall"
(if I remember correctly). You might find that on the net. Memorymate runs
beautifully on the palmtop by the way.

For those not familiar with it, Memorymate was a fast, free form text
database, capable of running as a TSR (though you did not have to).

Larry



On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, Patrick West wrote:

> Folks,
>
>
> Anyone have any ideas on finding this program?
>
> Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
> PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
> Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 08:21:42 -0500
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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Me too !

Jon
--------------
> ----------
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>
> Folks,
>
> Does anyone have OLD copies of this they'd like to sell?
>
> Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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Russel:
If you want a _real_ challenge, turn off auto-play and don't remove any
cards until you have them all arranged in four piles of King->Ace.  Then
turn on auto-play and watch the cards fly!

I, too, was able to win every game playing the normal way.  However, once
I switched to playing this way, I only win about 70-75% of the games.  I
think they all still can be won, but I get frustrated and give up
eventually.

To turn off auto play, just run Freecell as follows:
freecell n

Cheers.
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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:25:50 +0100
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This is interesting...

I suspect that a port to a non-GUI platform is tough, but maybe there
are libraries that would make it feasible.  Or even (for those with
expanded LXs) running under Win 3.0 on the LX.

http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc/index.html

At least for those of you with discarded CE machines, it could provide a
use.

Programmers, please consider if you could make this work for us.

William D.Ll.Brown

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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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What if you ran the three programs as a single batch file? Actually, it
seems like you'd only need two:

1) GDBDUMP (from SUPER) to convert the .pdb to a comma-separated-variable
        text file (.csv)

2) CONVERT (from Simtel, CONVR803.zip) to convert the .csv file to .dbf

Neither programs require any interaction with the user, which is why you'd
better read the docs as they may not be obvious to use...but they lend
themselves well to making an automated batch file. Then, if you want a total
no-brainer, just invoke the batch file from an AppMgr icon.

- Longden

On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, David Sanders wrote:

> I am looking for a one way transfer let's say once a wwek, However I
> don't want the hassle of using 3 programs to get to the result which is
> what I am doing now.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mikhail Epelbaum SMTP:mepelbaum@ATTCANADA.NET
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 1:45 PM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject:      Re: hpl200 database -->dbf
> >
> > It depends whether you want to do it just once, to transfer
> > information, or to shuffle back and forth on a regular basis. It can
> > be
> > done via smart clips and comma delimited import/export for the former.
> > Intellisync will do it for you with more grace (but not synchronize)
> > for the latter application.
> >
> > > I am looking for a utility which converts
> > straigt from a *.pdb file to a > *.dbf file anyone knows about such a
> > utility? >  > David Sanders
> >
> > Mikhail

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 08:29:20 -0500
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Hello!  I'm relatively new to the HP200 arena, and was wondering if
there is a general consensus on the best internet access tool suite
(e.g., Nettamer, etc.) for the '200LX?  The bulk of my usage would be
for email access, with occasional newsgroup reading.

Thanks for any suggestions -

Paul
paul.knight@prairiecomm.com

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:52:39 -0300
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Paul Knight wrote:

> Hello!  I'm relatively new to the HP200 arena, and was wondering if
> there is a general consensus on the best internet access tool suite
> (e.g., Nettamer, etc.) for the '200LX?  The bulk of my usage would be
> for email access, with occasional newsgroup reading.
>
> If you're like me and only have a 1 meg machine (and want to use a
> PCMCIA modem), check out "Goin' Postal". it's a nice small mail
> program that works well.

 --
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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:17:46 EDT
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              "Daniel Z. Sands" <dsands@BIDMC.HARVARD.EDU>
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Subject:      Internet Access in Seoul?

I'm taking a trip to Seoul, S. Korea next week.  Anyone know of an ISP
with a local point-of-presence there?  I really just need access to my e-
mail accounts in the US (through POP).

Thanks.

- Danny

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I let the unit powerdown for 48  hours.  Took all of the batteries out
(yes, even the  3V lithium cell).   Pressed the "ON" key for 30 sec.   Then
after it had discharged for the 48 hours, put in a fresh set of alkaline
cells and reinstalled the 3V backup battery.  It "ate" the alkalines within
3 days.  It doesn't affect the 3V lithium (wonder why?).

So now it looks like either it gets repaired by HP or
Thaddeus.....OR.....it gets offered as spare parts to the high bidder.
What would someone be willing to offer for a  3 year old, 2meg HP200LX that
eats batteries?  Not saying that this owner would be willing to sell it,
but just in case they would like to.....what would be a good offer?
Jim J.
Carmel, IN





"Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK> on 08/11/98 07:37:09 AM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:
Subject:  Re: HPLX eating batteries




It happened to me, it was fixed by a new motherboard fitted by HP.
Expensive but it worked.  I suspect I'd damaged it by trying to use PC
cards >150mA in it, but it could just be I dropped it once too often.

Before you send it in it's worth trying that last chance of taking out
all the batteries for a week, and then trying again.  If that's still no
go then get it repaired.  At least you get a warranty with the repair !

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 16:33:43 +0200
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              David Sanders <DSanders@MINDPORT.COM>
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sounds very interesting, where do I get these utilities?

//David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Longden C. Loo SMTP:lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 3:30 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: hpl200 database -->dbf
>
> What if you ran the three programs as a single batch file? Actually,
> it
> seems like you'd only need two:
>
> 1) GDBDUMP (from SUPER) to convert the .pdb to a
> comma-separated-variable
>         text file (.csv)
>
> 2) CONVERT (from Simtel, CONVR803.zip) to convert the .csv file to
> .dbf
>
> Neither programs require any interaction with the user, which is why
> you'd
> better read the docs as they may not be obvious to use...but they lend
> themselves well to making an automated batch file. Then, if you want a
> total
> no-brainer, just invoke the batch file from an AppMgr icon.
>
> - Longden
>
> On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, David Sanders wrote:
>
> > I am looking for a one way transfer let's say once a wwek, However I
> > don't want the hassle of using 3 programs to get to the result which
> is
> > what I am doing now.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mikhail Epelbaum SMTP:mepelbaum@ATTCANADA.NET
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 1:45 PM
> > > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > > Subject:      Re: hpl200 database -->dbf
> > >
> > > It depends whether you want to do it just once, to transfer
> > > information, or to shuffle back and forth on a regular basis. It
> can
> > > be
> > > done via smart clips and comma delimited import/export for the
> former.
> > > Intellisync will do it for you with more grace (but not
> synchronize)
> > > for the latter application.
> > >
> > > > I am looking for a utility which converts
> > > straigt from a *.pdb file to a > *.dbf file anyone knows about
> such a
> > > utility? >  > David Sanders
> > >
> > > Mikhail
>
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              Michael Cheverton <michev@IBM.NET>
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It sounds as if enough people have seen this problem that there may a common
and "potentially" straightforward fix. I would be prepared to buy it for
parts in order to experiment in my copious(:<) spare time. Email me at
michev@ibm.net.

Cheers,
Mike.
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From: Jim Johnson <jjohnson@TMCC.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: HPLX eating batteries


>I let the unit powerdown for 48  hours.  Took all of the batteries out
>(yes, even the  3V lithium cell).   Pressed the "ON" key for 30 sec.   Then
>after it had discharged for the 48 hours, put in a fresh set of alkaline
>cells and reinstalled the 3V backup battery.  It "ate" the alkalines within
>3 days.  It doesn't affect the 3V lithium (wonder why?).
>
>So now it looks like either it gets repaired by HP or
>Thaddeus.....OR.....it gets offered as spare parts to the high bidder.
>What would someone be willing to offer for a  3 year old, 2meg HP200LX that
>eats batteries?  Not saying that this owner would be willing to sell it,
>but just in case they would like to.....what would be a good offer?
>Jim J.
>Carmel, IN
>
>
>
>
>
>"Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK> on 08/11/98 07:37:09 AM
>
>Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
>      respond to "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
>
>To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>cc:
>Subject:  Re: HPLX eating batteries
>
>
>
>
>It happened to me, it was fixed by a new motherboard fitted by HP.
>Expensive but it worked.  I suspect I'd damaged it by trying to use PC
>cards >150mA in it, but it could just be I dropped it once too often.
>
>Before you send it in it's worth trying that last chance of taking out
>all the batteries for a week, and then trying again.  If that's still no
>go then get it repaired.  At least you get a warranty with the repair !
>
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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 08:18:35 -0700
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              David Hart <hartd@CATHOLIC.ORG>
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Subject:      Computer Renaissance

The Computer Renaissance franchise in Dayton address is:
3464 New Germanany-Trebein Rd.
Beavercreek, OH 45431
(937) 426-3688

--

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              "Wellner, Harry SIOP-OGBH/7" <Harry.H.M.Wellner@OPC.SHELL.COM>
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See also the WinCmd clone which I am using for YEARS. Great stuff and
for me THE ultimate NC-clone for Windows. Mention something.... almost
all is there incl. ZIP browsing, creating and creation EXE headers with
ZIP-files. Even FTP is there. Amassing stuff.

Harry Wellner



>----------
>From:  Don E. WeatherlySMTP:weather@EXIS.NET
>Sent:  07 August 1998 04:22
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: Norton Commander v5.0
>
>At 09:29 PM 8/10/98 +0800, Little Fish <yuml@NETVIGATOR.COM>
> wrote:
>>"Try NC 4.0.  The basic programmes (NC.exe NCMAIN.exe NC.INI & NC.CFG)
>only take up 210K"
>
>=====
>
>Norton Commander (NC) is the best file manager I've ever used.
>
>I use NC v2.0 and 5.0 on my HP200LX.
>
>NC v2.0 uses much less RAM than v4.0 or 5.0.  It runs easily under the HPLX
>system manager.
>
>One of NC v5.0's many great features is that it permits you to view the
>contents of files within compressed .ZIP files.
>
>I use NC v2.0 and NC v4.0 on my HP100LX since not all NC v5.0 features
>function properly on the 100LX.
>
>For NC lovers, there is an NC version for Win 95 and Win NT that works with
>long filenames.
>
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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 08:29:15 -0700
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Subject:      Getting Newton Keyboard to work with WP 5.1, ect.

I just catching up on my e-mail after being on vacation
and I found a message from someone who was having
problems getting his Newton keyboard to work with any
standard DOS word processing programs.

I haven't tried using my Newton Keyboard with those
programs yet (but I love the keyboard) but I have an
idea on working with those word processing programs.
I know in the back of the WordPerfect manual there
is an option to disable the keyboard driver that WP
uses to read the keyboard. Many DOS wordprocessor
programs made their own keyboard drivers because
the standard DOS drivers were too slow for fast
touch-typists on XT machines. Anyhow I know WP had
a command-line switch you would run when you started the program
which would disable their keyboard driver. I wouldn't
be very surprised if Microsoft had a similar driver
for their program, too. People often had to disable
these keyboard drivers because of conflicts with
keyboard TSRs. If you can't find the WP5.1 manual
to find this option just send me another e-mail and
I'll dig up an old WP manual to find the switch option.
I wish you luck. I was planning on upgrading my LX
so I could run WP on my LX.
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 01:49:06 +1000
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              Alastair McLachlan <aml@TRANSARC.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Syncing the Hp200lx with Outlook98
Comments: To: John Waller <Hp100Lx@JWALLER.DEMON.CO.UK>
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I also need to sync 200LX with Outlook98

***********************************************************************
  Alastair McLachlan
  Channels Sales Manager
  Transactions Systems
  IBM Asia Pacific
  66 Hunter Street
  Sydney  NSW  2000
  Australia

  Phone:  +61-2-92231250
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Sent: Sunday, August 09, 1998 04:12
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: Syncing the Hp200lx with Outlook98


Date sent:              Thu, 6 Aug 1998 11:36:28 -0400
From:                   John Guenther <jguenthe@NAFIS.FP.TRW.COM>
Subject:                Syncing the Hp200lx with Outlook98

> .......
> Since the folks at Puma Technology obviously have the technology in house
to
> sync Palm Pilots etc with Outlook98, why can't they merge that technology
> with what they also have for the 200lx and give us a method of syncing the
> 200lx with Outlook98.  I am sure I am not the only one who would like a
> solution to this problem, someone mentioned ACT 4.0 to the 200lx, they
> should be able to provide that capability also.
> .......
> I don't really want to reinvent the wheel here, but I need to be able to
> sync up with Outlook98.  If I have to do this myself I will, but I would
> much rather pay for an upgrade to Intellisync than buy the SDK for the
200lx
> and the Microsoft development tools and spend many hours developing a
> solution to this problem.  Is anyone else out there interested in this
> capability
>

I couldn't agree more. I currently use Intellisync and could also think of
some
other features that could be added. Like a sync to Access or an interface to
programatically modified the data that is being transfered. I guess the
ideal
solution would be for Puma to allow the x00LX user community access to their
source code but somehow I doubt that that will happen!

John

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 12:30:29 -0400
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              Lionel Zuckier <zuckier@AECOM.YU.EDU>
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From:         Lionel Zuckier <zuckier@AECOM.YU.EDU>
Subject:      shopping deals de jour
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I am somewhat surprised that people are still promoting their own
megahertz x-jack 1144 modems at $25 dollars when they are available for
$10 each at resource concepts inc., Carrollton Texas
(www.resourcesales.com --> follow link for laptops). Their phone number is
972-245-5050.  They work fine with the 200 LX, and in previous discussion
they have an acceptable battery-drain rate.

I noticed a new brand of soft-skin PDA cases on my last trip to Staples
(item #757005968100). They are called "ergo gear lifesaver" electronic
organizer cover (company phone 1-800-888-3537) and are advertised to fit
the 200 LX, which they do.  They are neoprene with velcro pads to secure
the organizer and are almost identical to the kensington wet suit with the exception
that THEY HAVE AN ATTATCHED BELT LOOP, which seems to be an advantage, and
that the external pocket is non-zippered, which seems to be a disadvantage
as compared to the wetsuit. Price was $9.99.

Finally, stay tuned for a cost-effective means of connecting the LX to
another LX, to a desktop, or to the Newton Keyboard.  As soon as I get my
facts together, I will post them.

Lionel
_____________________________________________________

Lionel Zuckier, MD
Research Lab
Albert Einstein College of Medicine
1300 Morris Park Avenue
Ullmann Bldg, Room 121
Bronx, NY 10461

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email: zuckier@aecom.yu.edu

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:59:04 -0500
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Subject:      WP 5.1, Special config. settings?

Hi All,

Still can't get WP5.1 to work in DOS on my 200LX (It locks up on the start
screen, w/ "*Please Wait*" in the lower left hand corner).  I remember I
used to have trouble with DOS-based computers, running WP, if I didn't have
enough "file handles" or something, specified in the start up files.

I've currently specified "buffers=30" and "files=50" in the config.sys, are
there any other "mandatory" items to make it work?

WP is loaded in my "G:" drive 32 MB portion of a Times2tech doublespeeded
and memory upgraded.

The only "odd" things I run is that I still use the memory portion of a
Smart FAX/Modem/Memory that requires Smart's "flashdriver" to access the
memory.  "MEM" reports that the largest executable program size is: 521,376.

TIA.

--tim

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From:         riley <riley@IGLOU.COM>
Subject:      Re: FS-omnibook nimh batteries for 600 omnibooks
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do you still want one?
thanks
mike


On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, jgetz wrote:

> Have any left?
> I would like one if you do.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MICHAEL K RILEY <riley@IGLOU.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Date: Monday, August 03, 1998 11:52 AM
> Subject: FS-omnibook nimh batteries for 600 omnibooks
>
>
> >pls email
> >riley@iglou.com
> >$40 ea. new
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Is it any wonder eveyone thinks Micro'squash' is evil...

You may have noticed that a new TV ad for Microsoft's Internet
Explorer e-mail program uses the musical theme of the "Confutatis
Maledictis" from Mozart's Requiem. "Where do you want to go today?" is
the cheery line on the screen. Meanwhile, the chorus sings "Confutatis
maledictis, flammis acribus addictis," which means, "The damned and
accursed are convicted to flames of hell." (Shoptalk, 3 Aug 98)

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 12:56:14 -0600
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Andwhen windows used "Star Me Up" as their window-95 theme they stoped the
song just before the line
"And make a poor boy cry"

Can't say the Micro$oft ever lies to ya....

On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, Dan Carrington wrote:

> Is it any wonder eveyone thinks Micro'squash' is evil...
>
> You may have noticed that a new TV ad for Microsoft's Internet
> Explorer e-mail program uses the musical theme of the "Confutatis
> Maledictis" from Mozart's Requiem. "Where do you want to go today?" is
> the cheery line on the screen. Meanwhile, the chorus sings "Confutatis
> maledictis, flammis acribus addictis," which means, "The damned and
> accursed are convicted to flames of hell." (Shoptalk, 3 Aug 98)
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Microsoft is like the investigation of the President, you never know what
they will do newt!

> -----Original Message-----
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> Jan Allbright
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>
>
> Andwhen windows used "Star Me Up" as their window-95 theme they stoped the
> song just before the line
> "And make a poor boy cry"
>
> Can't say the Micro$oft ever lies to ya....
>
> On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, Dan Carrington wrote:
>
> > Is it any wonder eveyone thinks Micro'squash' is evil...
> >
> > You may have noticed that a new TV ad for Microsoft's Internet
> > Explorer e-mail program uses the musical theme of the "Confutatis
> > Maledictis" from Mozart's Requiem. "Where do you want to go today?" is
> > the cheery line on the screen. Meanwhile, the chorus sings "Confutatis
> > maledictis, flammis acribus addictis," which means, "The damned and
> > accursed are convicted to flames of hell." (Shoptalk, 3 Aug 98)
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>I'm taking a trip to Seoul, S. Korea next week.  Anyone know of an ISP
>with a local point-of-presence there?  I really just need access to my e-
>mail accounts in the US (through POP).
>
you could try chollian.net - I've received EMails from there.
-Geo.

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Subject:      best price for 32 MB double speed?

Where can one find the best price for a new 200 LX with double speed and
32 MB ram?

Jeff

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After your rundown, did you reload your usual software?

If the LX is getting inadvertently powered up while you are
away, could one of the battery monitoring pgms produce a
log that contains clues?

Jim Johnson wrote:

> I let the unit powerdown for 48  hours.  Took all of the batteries out
> (yes, even the  3V lithium cell).   Pressed the "ON" key for 30 sec.   Then
> after it had discharged for the 48 hours, put in a fresh set of alkaline
> cells and reinstalled the 3V backup battery.  It "ate" the alkalines within
> 3 days.  It doesn't affect the 3V lithium (wonder why?).
>
> So now it looks like either it gets repaired by HP or
> Thaddeus.....OR.....it gets offered as spare parts to the high bidder.
> What would someone be willing to offer for a  3 year old, 2meg HP200LX that
> eats batteries?  Not saying that this owner would be willing to sell it,
> but just in case they would like to.....what would be a good offer?
> Jim J.
> Carmel, IN
>
> "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK> on 08/11/98 07:37:09 AM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
>       respond to "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:
> Subject:  Re: HPLX eating batteries
>
> It happened to me, it was fixed by a new motherboard fitted by HP.
> Expensive but it worked.  I suspect I'd damaged it by trying to use PC
> cards >150mA in it, but it could just be I dropped it once too often.
>
> Before you send it in it's worth trying that last chance of taking out
> all the batteries for a week, and then trying again.  If that's still no
> go then get it repaired.  At least you get a warranty with the repair !
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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:47:08 -0500
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              Kim A Brostad <kabrosta@CRNOTES.CCA.ROCKWELL.COM>
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I am new to the list, people mention that you can upgrade to 32M of RAM
internally.  I see you can buy a 32M Flash for $165.  How much is the
internal upgrade and where can it be found besides Thadius?  Marcan will do
a 4M upgrade for $70.  Thadius will charge $500 for an internal.  Can I do
this myself (with good soldering skills)?

Thanks for any input

Kim Brostad
2M HP 200 lx

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:12:45 -0700
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On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, Kim A Brostad wrote:

> I am new to the list, people mention that you can upgrade to 32M of
> RAM internally.  I see you can buy a 32M Flash for $165.  How much is
> the internal upgrade and where can it be found besides Thadius?
> Marcan will do a 4M upgrade for $70.  Thadius will charge $500 for an
> internal.  Can I do this myself (with good soldering skills)?

Internal upgrades have the advantage of keeping your PCMCIA socket free
for other cards, using less power, and being faster.  They have the
disadvantage of being more expensive, and vulnerable to power loss.
Thaddeus and Times2 Tech both do the upgrades.  There may be other
companies in Japan, but I have no data on them, and most of them seem to
deal only with LX users who live in Japan.  There is now a 64MB internal
RAM upgrade.  If I recall, the internal upgrades cost about $499 for 32MB
and $799 for 64MB.  This includes a speed upgrade...

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:44:38 -0700
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Frans:

> I expect a 128Mb version soon, and I've heard rumours that 256Mb is
> possible too. And since these guys are not telling you honestly what's
> going on, you'd better be a little patient unless you are willing to =
pay an
> upgrade fee every month.

You are being judgemental and unfair. You know nothing about
the people involved, yet you are willing to smear their
reputation because of your addiction to a gadget, which you
probably do not even need. Very ugly indeed, beyond just
language differences...

Sorry, Frans! You have crossed a line of propriety. You owe an
apology.

I am a vendor in this market too. Your formula is a sure way
to kill the vendors in this market. It is a loser for
everyone.

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:44:43 -0700
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Dear Mikhail:

> I assume that my LX's serial port somehow spontaneously disregulates.
> Is this the "fiddling" that NOFIDDLE.com is supposed to prevent?
>
> NOFIDDLE came with my WWW/LX, but documentation.

Try this: In Post/LX Main Screen, press F1. Then SEARCH for
NOFIDDLE. Here is what the documentation says: (this will save
you pressing the keys above <g>...)

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From: Help - Troubleshooting
Subject: System Manager and Serial Port

System Manager "fiddles around" with the serial port and makes
communication impossible for DOS communications programs under
System Manager. In order to fix that problem, a small utility
named NOFIDDLE.COM is included with POST/LX. Install that
utility in the AUTOEXEC.BAT file: add the command as the
*last* command before the line "100" or "200" (depending on
the LX model you use).

Note that NOFIDDLE only works together with POST/LX. It does
not help with other communication programs.

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best Regards,

  Avi M. D&A

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Dear Frans, I am a bit late on this response, but maybe it will help =
anyway.

> Today I tried opening my old HP200LX palmtop. I discovered the screws =
under
> the rubber feet, and got pretty far in opening the whole thing. Except =
that
> under the comma key both halfs remain firmley attached. I tried everythi=
ng
> possible, but it just doesn't give way. What's the big secret here?

I have use a diskette before. The reason is that the material
is no going to leave marks on the palmtop case.

The idea is to squeeze the corner into the gap, then move it
slowly towards the closed area. The two sides of the case are
connected by a plastic pin in one side of the case, which fits
very tightly into a hole in the other part of the case.
Sliding the diskette in the open gap forces the two parts of
the case to separate.

Now, I admit that when I did it a few times, the case parts
flexed to the point that I believed they may break, and I
suppose it is possible, and may have happened, so you must be
very judicious and decide for yourself how much risk you are
willing to take in applying the force, I cannot tell you that.

Good luck!

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:58:59 -0700
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Me three!

> Me too !
>
>
-Tim
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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 18:12:36 -0400
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Someone wrote:
 > Microsoft is like the investigation of the President, you never know what
 > they will do newt!

Of course, you mean, what/who Bill will do next.  And I mean, both Bills.
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 > I am a vendor in this market too. Your formula is a sure way
 > to kill the vendors in this market. It is a loser for
 > everyone.

<yawn>

So if a customer complains, he's a murderer?

  I say, we hang 'em!   Yee-Haa!

Yep. makes sense to me.

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I'm slowly coming up to speed with LXTCP and PNR, but have yet
to figure out one thing.  On my Unix account I use procmail to
sort mail from various listservs into individual folders.  Is
there any way to do this sort of sort (heh) with LXPOP/PNRTI/PNR
prior to reading the messages?

Ted

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>
> Of course, you mean, what/who Bill will do next.  And I mean, both =
Bills.

Who, Me?  <g>

Bill

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If anyone knows where I can find a copy of Memorymate I'd appreciate it.
Thanks
Tony Guzewicz

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Hi

Before you go blaming the LX check if you are using USA made if they are
Duracells.  I had a similar situation with a batch of BELGIUM made
duracells.  I went back to USA made ones and there was no prob. Duracell
assures there is no difference but the facts are different for me.

There is no visible difference ....except the made in section.

Hope this helps

Russell
Net-Tamer V 1.11P - Test Drive

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 20:07:04 -0500
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I just installed Act on my palmtop but can't find the manual. Does anyone
know how to import my phone.dbf records into Act?
<BR>Thanks
<BR>Tony Guzewicz</HTML>

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 22:27:05 EDT
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Avi -- You are being thin skinned and are not communicating very well.  I
certainly agree with you that the people involved are of the first order, and
that we are very lucky indeed that they are working for us.  Considering the
size of the market, we are getting very favorable pricing.

That said, if you wish to criticize, please point out errors, and supply the
accurate information.  It is not likely that the person you were responding ot
spoke from huberous.  Clearly, he lacked information.

Better to teach a man to fish than to criticize him for begging.

Moderately Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

In a message dated 98-08-11 17:48:39 EDT, Avi write:

<<
 You are being judgemental and unfair. You know nothing about
 the people involved, yet you are willing to smear their
 reputation because of your addiction to a gadget, which you
 probably do not even need. Very ugly indeed, beyond just
 language differences...

 Sorry, Frans! You have crossed a line of propriety. You owe an
 apology.

 I am a vendor in this market too. Your formula is a sure way
 to kill the vendors in this market. It is a loser for
 everyone.

  Avi Meshar
  D&A Software, Inc.
  >>

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 20:25:15 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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> Better to teach a man to fish than to criticize him for begging.

Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.  Teach a man to fish, and
he'll sit around drinking beer and eating sunflower seeds all day. :-)

Mmmmm, beeeerrrr.... <gurgle, drool>

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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1998 20:44:45 -0700
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AOL did in 1996, when I was there.
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>I'm taking a trip to Seoul, S. Korea next week.  Anyone know of an ISP
>with a local point-of-presence there?  I really just need access to my e-
>mail accounts in the US (through POP).
>
>Thanks.
>
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<HTML>
I just installed Goin Postal and am trying to set it up for my Earthlink
account. When I try and go on lone I get the following messages:
<BR>CHAP authentication failed
<BR>PPP link is down
<BR>driver not installed
<BR>can't access driver
<BR>Does anyone know what I need to do to remedy this problem?
<BR>Thanks
<BR>Tony Guzewicz</HTML>

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:19:31 +0200
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first of all thanks for all  the responses and as I contribtion I will
share what and why I did it.

Most palmtops are to big to carry in your pocket, however often you need
telephone numbers or review of your agenda. for this purpose I bought
Rolodex (REX) a PCMCIA card with an LCD display which lets you review
most of your data, ofcourse you have to refresh it from time to time.
For the HP 320 and 620 you can just enter the card in its PCMCIA slot
and load all the date on the card which then easily fits in your shirt
pocket.

Other possibilty's to get data on to the card is a special serial device
with a PCMCIA slot or a portable running win 95 or 98 and a PCMCIA slot
(portable user's with NT, like me, can run the software but not use
their PCMCIA slot to load the data on the card)

My first project was getting the phone database on the card, thanks to
this group I will do that in future as follows:

1) Get my phone.pdb on my portable with the standard communication
package
2) wrote a batch file which first creates a comma seperated file and
then convert it to a dbf file
>gdbdump -n phone.pdb >phone.cvs
>convert phone.cvs /from ascii /to dbf /indef=phone.def
3) contents of PHONE.DEF:
c 30 Last_nam
c 13 bus_phon
c 13 Hom_phon
c 12 Alt_phon
c 12 Fax
c 15 Title
c 10 Category
c 15 Company
c 15 Street1
c 15 Street2
c 15 City
c 2  State
c 7  Zip
c 80 Notes

4) result is phone.dbf which is supported by many sync programs

next project will be to convert my agenda.

gdbdump :
Search the SUPER site http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html and look for
"gdbdump".
convert:
Search the Simtel site at http://www.simtel.net/simtel.net/ and search
for "convr803".

//success and thanks again David

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:34:38 +0100
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              David Wadsworth <dwadsw@ETNA.DEMON.CO.UK>
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In article , Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU> writes
>Hi
>
>Before you go blaming the LX check if you are using USA made if they are
>Duracells.  I had a similar situation with a batch of BELGIUM made
>duracells.  I went back to USA made ones and there was no prob. Duracell
>assures there is no difference but the facts are different for me.
>
>There is no visible difference ....except the made in section.
>
>Hope this helps
>
>Russell
>Net-Tamer V 1.11P - Test Drive
>
Hi Russell,

Well I read an article about this somewhere recently, which warned that
Duracell was a brand name, not a description of battery type. The
Duracell batteries made and sold in Belgium were ordinary carbon-zinc
types. Some dealers after a fast buck were buying the Belgium ones
cheaply in bulk and selling them as manganese types here in the UK, and
probably elsewhere.


Cheers
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dwadsw@etna.demon.co.uk | anymore        .....The Lone Ranger of Oz

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:16:01 +0100
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Hi German Users (and others, wanting to learn german <g>),

Yesterday I found an interesting GERMAN Nutrition-Analysis-Program
(Ernaehrungsanalyse) which runs on my HP200. The URL:

http://www.freeware.de/software/dos.htm

Have fun!

Axel
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:26:33 -0400
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Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET> said:
> First I set up epppd.  At Mitch's suggestion I put the configuration
> settings in pppd.cfg and simply invoke epppd.exe.  Wattcp.cfg is not
> needed to get a PPP driver loaded, but the LXTCP apps use it.  So my
> next step was to get wattcp.cfg configured.
> ...
> PPPD.CFG
> --------
> com2
> 38400
> crtscts
> connect "chat '' AT&F OK ATDT7757000 CONNECT"
> user "Ptheise"
> passwd "******"
> namsrv 206.64.96.2
> namsrv 206.64.96.3

I see nothing here that resembles a waitfor/send script.  Is this doable
with this epppd, or must authentication be done with PAP/CHAP?

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In message  <199808121226.IAA01434@gaylord.async.vt.edu>, gaylord@GAYLORD.ASYNC.VT.EDU said:
> Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET> said:
> > First I set up epppd.  At Mitch's suggestion I put the configuration
> > settings in pppd.cfg and simply invoke epppd.exe.  Wattcp.cfg is not
> > needed to get a PPP driver loaded, but the LXTCP apps use it.  So my
> > next step was to get wattcp.cfg configured.
> > ...
> > PPPD.CFG
> > --------

> I see nothing here that resembles a waitfor/send script.  Is this doable
> with this epppd, or must authentication be done with PAP/CHAP?

Clark, I'm really not sure--my experience in this area is pretty
limited.  Perhaps some of the more experienced group members will
respond.

Ted

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 07:41:25 +800
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On 1998-08-11 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
   >Hi All,
   >Still can't get WP5.1 to work in DOS on my 200LX (It locks up on
   >the start screen, w/ "*Please Wait*" in the lower left hand corner).
   >I remember I used to have trouble with DOS-based computers, running
   >WP, if I didn't have enough "file handles" or something, specified
   >in the start up files.
   >I've currently specified "buffers=30" and "files=50" in the config.
   >sys, are there any other "mandatory" items to make it work?
   >WP is loaded in my "G:" drive 32 MB portion of a Times2tech
   >doublespeeded and memory upgraded.
   >The only "odd" things I run is that I still use the memory portion
   >of a Smart FAX/Modem/Memory that requires Smart's "flashdriver" to
   >access the memory.  "MEM" reports that the largest executable
   >program size is: 521,376.
   >TIA.
   >--tim
   >CPT Tim Raymond
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   >---------------------------------
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   >71250.1550@compuserve.com

Hi Tim,
I've been running WP51 for awhile, I have the same problem when
starting in a SC work area. Pressing ESC and Enter fixes the lockup and
it runs fine after that.
Under MaxDos the problem is not apparent on my system(2x 6meg), so the
problem may be your driver, no experience there.

Paul

Paul Yarnell
pyarnell@proaxis.com

Clarke's Third Law:  Any sufficiently advanced technology is
indistinguishable from magic.

Net-Tamer V 1.11P - Registered

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I was away for a while.  I read all the tips from these great guys and
every one of them worked.  My sincere thanks to all those that responded
to this question.

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-AC adapter for 200LX
$15 shipping included.
Please E-mail me privately.

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$50 + shipping for all.
Please E-mail me privately.

1993
1,4,5

1994
1,2,3,3,4,5,6
Bonus1, 2

1995
1,2,3,4,5,6
Bonus1,1, bonus2

1996
1,2,3,4,5,6
Bonus1,Bonus2

1997
1,2,3,4,5,6
Bonus1,2,2

1998
1,2,3

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:11:06 +0200
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Hello group

I have a problem with some programs (not enough memory), do any body knows
how to free up some KB by deleting File manager from memory?
Thanx in andvance.


+---------------------------------------------------------------+
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:33:23 -0400
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Hi All:

01h16m39s ago ...
On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Alexander Stanovoy wrote:


> I have a problem with some programs (not enough memory), do any body =
knows
> how to free up some KB by deleting File manager from memory?

See CLSFLR.ZIP on the S.U.P.E.R. site
(http://www.palmtop.net/super.html)

You might also consider MaxDOS (available on S.U.P.E.R. as well)

Cheers,


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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:38:45 -0700
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              Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM>
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I use a batch file named HV1.BAT (below)  to run DIET prior to HV.


--------------- HV1.BAT ---------------
@echo off
diet -Z -P -W -M -K *.HTM
hv %1
--------------- EOF ---------------

Hope this helps.
Don.


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Subject:        Re: Compressed HTML files

You might check out diet. I haven't used it in some time, but as I recall,
you can compress the html files with diet.

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 10:56:08 -0500
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&.. key,  menu,  t (terminate all),  to get your PIM (filer,  ...)
enter  200   at the DOs prompt

Alexander Stanovoy wrote:

> Hello group
>
> I have a problem with some programs (not enough memory), do any body knows
> how to free up some KB by deleting File manager from memory?
> Thanx in andvance.

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forwarded from a portland area local buy & sell newsgroup

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:19:16 -0700
From: Nick Zarafshan <Ommid.Zarafshan@tek.com>
Newsgroups: or.forsale, pdx.forsale, tek.forsale
Subject: HP200 LX Organizer For Sale or Trade

HP 200LX with 2 Meg Ram and 20 Meg flash card + leather carrying case.
Will trade with computer system, car stereo (deck, CD, amp, ...),
Sturgeon pole or ?????

email if interested.

Nick -

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 10:02:28 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Best digital line convertor?
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I have one from PORT called a SureLink Digital Telephone Enabler 250 (part
number CMD0500)  It has an AC adapter AND two nine-volt batteries.  It works
great with either of my modems, and I have used it for the US Robotics
conference speakerphone, when the digital to analog adapter we bought for
that suffered a burned out AC adapter.
If you get a battery powered unit, it will be bigger, and with batteries
installed, it will be heavier.  What it does is really not that complicated.
It connects to the handset of the phone unit, to send the modem signal along
the same path your voice data travels.  It doesn't actually digitize
anything.  It only compensates for various voltage differences.  Some base
units send more power to the handset than others.  Some expect stronger
signals back from the handset.  The job of the device is to get the signal
boosted/reduced to what the modem can give/get so you get the best
connection possible.
With my device, which has four possible settings, came a list of the most
common types of digital phones, and the setting most likely to work with
each.  It isn't terribly complicated, and you can experiment with alternate
settings if you wish.

-----Original Message-----
From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn Behalf Of
Ted Heise
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 1998 3:31 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Best digital line convertor?


I'm considering consolidating my Internet activities on my
200LX.  To do so I will need a convertor on my desk at work
since our phone lines are digital.  So far I have seen ads
for two Konexx products (a $130 unit that uses two 9V batteries
and a $90 unit that requires AC) and something called a
"LineStein" (I'm *not* kidding :) for $120.  The latter also
requires AC and claims to "learn" various phone systems.

If anyone has experience with any of these converters, or
other systems, I would greatly appreciate hearing it.  My
work phone equipment is AT&T if that matters.

Thanks for any and all comments.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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I know nothing about this firm/person just saw the ad.

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:41:00 -0400
From: Lynn <startup@ibm.net>
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.software
Subject: Modem Mate for sale! $30....

It works for Both Digital and Analog Phones!
     Why Risk to have your modems burn in hotels or offices?
     Worry No More! Now you can protect your modem with ease!
     Brand New! Retail for $79.95. We're selling for $30 each or $100 for
the lot (5).
     Modem Mate
     ITEM #: MPA-100.
          Connect your laptop fax or data modem to virtually any phone
system.
          Connects to your phone through any modular handset jack.
          Eliminates the need for costly, fancy installations or dedicated
phone lines.
          Compatible with virtually all modems- operates at speeds up to
28.8kps
          Records all incoming and outgoing telephone calls automatically
when used with a voice activated
          cassette recorder.
          Allows playback of recorded tapes through the telephone.
          User adjustable sensitivity control allows optimum signal matching
between modem and telephone
          Uses 2 9V batteries (not included)
     For more information, visit www.ttsystems.com.
     Shipping available via USPS Priority for $5 each.
     Accept paymemt by Money Order, Certified Check or Visa/MC.

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 12:21:55 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:19:16 -0700
>From: Nick Zarafshan <Ommid.Zarafshan@tek.com>
>Newsgroups: or.forsale, pdx.forsale, tek.forsale
>Subject: HP200 LX Organizer For Sale or Trade
                   
                   ORGANIZER? .... er uh .. you mean DOS Computer :~)




--------------
Owen Samuelson,
Amateur call: KU4ET
Macon Amateur Radio Club W4BKM: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/marc/marc.html
HP200LX: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

"Well-informed people know that it is impossible to transmit the voice
over wires and that, were it possible to do so, the thing would be of
no practical value."
                                   A newspaper editor in 1865

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 12:52:51 +0000
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From:         Mike Melancon <melancon@PRYSM.NET>
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I just tried Symantec's site - no luck - in fact the major search
engines didn't find a  single hit.

I didn't look any further - I know TimeLine (Symantec project
manager of same vintage) landed in Corel Wordperfect 7 Pro Suite-
perhaps through Novel - so it may pay to try there too.

I got mine (Grandview 2.0) from a closeout software place several
years ago - they don't have any more.  I got a copy of Grandview
special edition bundled with Harvard Graphics in a lot I bought on
Ebay.  I'll look at the local computer swap meet  later this month
and let you know if I locate one.

As for suggestions where to look - online auctions - newsgroup
postings - thrift stores - yard sales - post WTB's on appropriate
newsgroups.   Good Luck.

This program is worth looking for.  It was the major competition of
Lotus Agenda in the early PIM field.  It doesn't do as much with
automatic assignment of categories, but it handles list type info
very well - it is a great outliner with the ability to assign
items to a category or date.   There are date, category, and document
views in addition to the outline view.  A spell checker is included.

I use Agenda, but also like Grandview's outline based format for some
information.


> From:          Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
> Subject:       GrandView
> To:            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Folks,
>
> Does anyone know where/how to obtain a copy of an old DOS program called
> GrandView?
>
> Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp

Mike Melancon
melancon@prysm.net

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:59:07 -0400
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Yujin Nagasawa wrote:
Yujin

I got the book today "PC in your Pocket" and look for to reading it.
Thanks for the quick service. Got any other 200LX stuff (other than the
AC adapter)?

tnx
--
73

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:33:53 GMT
Reply-To:     John Musielewicz <musi0009@tc.umn.edu>
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From:         John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
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In message  <199808112144.OAA14634@ftel.net>, sponsor@FTEL.NET said:
> Frans:
>
> > I expect a 128Mb version soon, and I've heard rumours that 256Mb is
> > possible too. And since these guys are not telling you honestly what's
> > going on, you'd better be a little patient unless you are willing to =
> pay an
> > upgrade fee every month.

You can always call or write Mack to find out what he's working
on at the moment. I'm sure he'd tell you. Another good source is
the Palmtop Paper.

>
> You are being judgemental and unfair. You know nothing about
> the people involved, yet you are willing to smear their
> reputation because of your addiction to a gadget, which you
> probably do not even need. Very ugly indeed, beyond just
> language differences...

There is no reason for this extreme response. People always complain
when new stuff comes out especially if they just bought the old and
didn't know about the new. Its a lack of communication.
Live with it.

Regards

-John

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:30:55 -0400
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              Yujin Nagasawa <ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU>
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For Sale:

HP Connectivity Pack
-comes with cable, adaptors, disks, manuals etc.
-$35 shpping included.

Please E-mail me privately.

Thank you,
Yujin

------------
Yujin Nagasawa

State University of New York at Stony Brook

ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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              Mikhail Epelbaum <mepelbaum@ATTCANADA.NET>
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I wonder if there is any way to add little comments to grabbed URL
lines in POST/LX. These normally get appended to HV.HOT list foe ease
of retrieval when in WWW/LX. However, the URLs are often long cryptic
lines and look completely meaningless. I want to be able to add small,
even 2 character, identifiers to these URLs.

I receive several email digests (news, professional, hobby) that
contain URLs of expanded stories; it gets confusing when many URLs are
added to HV.hot.

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Mikhail
*********************************************************
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Forensic/Correctional Psychiatry
Pager 416-842-1446 or 800-263-1420 x 635-274, Fax 905-628-4443
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Does anyone know if it is possible to send printer codes from the
built-in Memo application. This could be either directly, or by
inserting a small file into a document. Just how does one send those
escape sequences?

I found an old dot-matrix printer, small enough for my application,
but uses nonstandard codes, needs some escape codes each time it has
been turned on.

Thanks in advance for any info.
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OR........you could find that the product would be announced a year in
advance...

......that  the product would be delayed for several months because of
bugs...........

......when the product DID finally come out, it didn't work as
advertised..........

........your machine locked up at random intervals.............

........you had no choice on but to purchase this product but from one
source..........

.......and the company that was making the product was being federally
investigated for monopolistic business practices....


While I take issue with both sides of the memory upgrade of the HPLX......I
find that the product offered, does what is advertised and that the people
that are offering these upgrades have a generally good reputation.    We
should only be so lucky with other corporations in the computing business.
I am glad that we can have a reasonable discussion without resorting to
backstabbing and name calling.

As with many things......it's all a matter of perspective.  My perspective
is different than yours.  Doesn't make mine wrong, or yours right....just
different.
Jim J.
Carmel, IN

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:25:59 -0400
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Re: WP 5.1, Special config. settings?
Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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At 11:59 AM 8/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>Still can't get WP5.1 to work in DOS on my 200LX (It locks up on the start
>screen, w/ "*Please Wait*" in the lower left hand corner).  I remember I
>used to have trouble with DOS-based computers, running WP, if I didn't have
>enough "file handles" or something, specified in the start up files.
>
>I've currently specified "buffers=30" and "files=50" in the config.sys, are
>there any other "mandatory" items to make it work?

Add the following line to your config.sys:
Stacks=9,228

Also the first time that you run WP, you should run it in DOS outside of
the System Manager.

********

Note: After that you can run it from System Manager from a batch file.
Note: You must have maxdos installed.

Here's a copy of my batch file:

SERCTL /W
MODE COM1:9600,n,8,1
maxdos wp

********

If it comes up, then you need to go into Setup and set the following:

Display = Compaq 640x400 Monochrome

Menu Options = (use normal and bold in these settings only)

also while in the Display options take a look around and set the other
setting to your likings.

Location of Files = (where you store your files)

The above setting should get you going.

BTW: If none of the above works drop me a line and we'll try some thing
else. (:-)

HTH

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:35:39 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Subject:      Re: WP 5.1, Special config. settings?
Comments: To: Paul Yarnell <pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM>,
          "qman@EARTHLINK.NET" <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>

Wow.

ESC; then Enter works!

It's a great work around.

Wonder why I have to use it though...

I'm not running SC I've tried to install both it and MAXDOS in the past and
just have had bad luck (system's been wiped since then ... shouldn't be any
residual files...).

The Extra "Stacks" command, hasn't helped yet (I have rebooted).

I possibly should've mentioned that I've loaded it on my "G:" drive the
Times2tech expansion}, if I didn't mention it before...

Luckily I remember where the F3 key is -- I used to live and die by WP5.1,
now I'm having 'dain-brammage' trying to remember the commands!

Thanks for all the help so far!

--tim

PS. This list is great(!) - at least you all have answers(!).  I consider
LISTSERVs America's (OK, the World's) great untapped knowledge pool .... my
coworkers and some peers just sit around and say, "Why would you want to do
that?  And why on a device without color graphics?" <sigh>.

CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs
Chief, Command Information - 254-287-4003
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** Reply to note from HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,         Thu, 6 Aug 1998 01:33:24 -0700


> I can not believe this.. I asked for help.. got none.. all the replies I got
> were off list - me too's.. I am faced with the prospect of changing from my
> trusty 200LX to a "CE" machine because ACT 4.0x no longer supports my LX.. I
> posted earlier asking for help getting my ACT 4.0 data into my 200LX... either
> in ACT for Palmtops 1.1.1 format, or barring that.. HP format.. no one helped
> me.. now, since I get cranky if I can't carry it with.. my honey is urging me
> to get a Sharp CE.. please help.

 ACT 4.0x seems to be the problem. You used the HP with act 2x and 3x
I assume there was some compelling reason to upgrade to 4x if it
causes problems?

I was wonder if you could share those reasons?  Also if you could describe
HOW you were able to get the HP95ACT 1.1.1 to work with Win-ACT!3x?


Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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From:         Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
Subject:      Agenda Books (yes, again)
Comments: To: pimlist@onelist.com

Addressed to: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
              pimlist@onelist.com

I have the following for sale or trade

============================

aftermarket Agenda 1.0 (Version ONE) book entitled
"The Lotus Guide to Agenda" Robert & Lauren Flast 400 pages, indexed
=======================

 Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 User's guide (7x9) paperbound, index, glossary,
 error messages, so forth

=================================
A complete set of Lotus Agenda 2.0 DOS for sale. In the box, with
all paperwork
==========
Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 User's guide (7x9) paperbound, index, glossary,
error messages, so forth

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Working with Macros" (7x9) slim, paperbound,
index,

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Working with Definition files" (7x9) slim,
paperbound, index,

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Setting up Agenda" (7x9) slim,
paperbound, index, (chap 4 is 67 pages titled Printer specifications"

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Starter Applications" (7x9) slim,
paperbound, index,

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Quick Start" (7x9) slim,
paperbound, index,

1 set of 5.25 Diskettes (original)
1 set of 3.5  Diskettes (original)
(deal on this set fell thru due to high mailing costs, buyer is in Costa
Rico and there was no cost effective way to ship it. So I would rather not
get into a another long drawn out discussion about mailing items out of the
USA, sorry)

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Folks,

I will sell these to highest bidder.  But bear in mind a trade for something
I really would like is better than cash any day. Last two items I sold my
wife saw the checks and the money went in to the general fund. So given that
I would rather TRADE these for something of worth to me but will sell.



Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:38:26 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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Clark Gaylord <gaylord@GAYLORD.ASYNC.VT.EDU> writes:
> I see nothing here that resembles a waitfor/send script.  Is this doable
> with this epppd, or must authentication be done with PAP/CHAP?

I'm the LXTCP author.

You have the choice.  There is a special version of epppd which does
PAP/CHAP, and a smaller memory version which does not.

My personal chat script has to deal with a corporate firewall and a
two-factor authentication system which requires a number from a
hand-held device (the number changes every minute).

See the chat.man file in the dosppp distribution (available from a
link on my LXTCP page on my web site listed below) for more
information.

-- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation --
-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
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SOLD. Thank you!




>-AC adapter for 200LX
>$15 shipping included.
>Please E-mail me privately.
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SOLD. Thank you!



>For Sale:
>
>HP Connectivity Pack
>-comes with cable, adaptors, disks, manuals etc.
>-$35 shpping included.
>
>Please E-mail me privately.
>
>Thank you,
>Yujin
>
>------------
>Yujin Nagasawa
>
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>
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Mack and fellow LXers:

I received my souped up 32 meg double speed palmtop today.  Wow is it fast.
And the space is great!

I notice that coventional RAM is, of course, still at a premium.  Even a bit
more (very slightly) than before because of the drivers.

Can anyone suggest how I can best maximize the RAM I have?  I guess if I
loaded the EMM drivers and were able to load the OS in high memory that
would help, but I don't think I can do that with MS-DOS 5 on a 80186, right?
What OS could I use and has anyone done it?  Any other suggestions?

I also use MAXDOS.  can anyone tell me the optimum settings for this
(recognizing that I now have a fast drive with lots of space and I now can
have EMS pages).

Thanks in advance.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH * dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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SOLD. Thank you!


>$50 + shipping for all.
>Please E-mail me privately.
>
>1993
>1,4,5
>
>1994
>1,2,3,3,4,5,6
>Bonus1, 2
>
>1995
>1,2,3,4,5,6
>Bonus1,1, bonus2
>
>1996
>1,2,3,4,5,6
>Bonus1,Bonus2
>
>1997
>1,2,3,4,5,6
>Bonus1,2,2
>
>1998
>1,2,3
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I ordered my 48MB Flash disk from Bernie Torbik at Shore Systems and have been
very happy with it. By (a) having enough room to run the disk uncompressed and
(b) shifting to a more modern card, I have improved performance by about 400%,
which I am quite happy with. I'll summarize my results as follows:

All test were completed with the machine connected to an AC adapter to make the
playing field even. The HP-200 is doublespeeded, the HP-100 is normal clock
speed. All times are in seconds to read and write 13 files consisting of a
total of about 140K, along with creating a directory for them, and then
deleting the files and directory, repeated 6 times:

HP UN: 10MB Flashdisk HP part 1013A from SunDisk, without Stacker
HP STK: 10MB Flashdisk HP part 1013A from SunDisk, with Stacker 3.0
Viking: Viking 48MB ATA Flashcard

          HP STK   HP UN     Viking
HP-200x2  92       45        18
HP-100x1  129      53        ** not usable in HP-100 **

As you can see, about a 4 times increase in the speed of the disk. Now it may
not hold a candle to a 32MB internal drive in terms of speed, but I can back it
up directly onto my laptop with PCMCIA card, and it is for me fast enough. And
at $194 for 48MB, it is hard to beat for cost.

Now to do my best at filling it!

Brian

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:42:31 -0700
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Ed:

Using other programs to decompress HTML files, and feed them
to HV would work. Example: Call this view.bat:

 pkunzip %1.zip
 hv %1.htm

and you can call this batch file like so:

 view comphtml

assuming the compressed html file is called "comphtml.zip" and
it compresses "coomphtml.htm".

Thanks for the idea you proposed!

Maybe HV will even take a piped file? like

 HV < pkunzip comphtml

I dunno! Worth playing with...

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:42:39 -0700
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Larry,

> You might check out diet. I haven't used it in some time, but as I =
recall,
> you can compress the html files with diet. When you want to read them =
with
> HV (or any other program) you launch diet as a TSR - which will then =
allow
> you to read/view them. After you are done - unload the TSR.

Indeed there is the TSR mode of Diet. Unfortunately, I think
this clashed with HV for some reason and managed to freeze a
machine, I believe it was reported.

  Avi M. D&A

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David:

> I am looking for a utility which converts straigt from a *.pdb file to =
a
> *.dbf file anyone knows about such a utility?

Use the clip facility in your gdb file! create a clip where
each field is enclosed by a double quote ("), and separated
from the next field by a comma, like so:

 "fielda","fieldb","fieldc"

Then write this file via Menu File Print and use the clip
name, write to a file.

Now you have what is known as a "CDF" Comma Delimited File, or
CSV - comma separated values. All decent database applications
can import this and save as a dbf.

Three items of note:

1. If you have double quotes in any field in your database,
change them to single quote.

2. Add a line to the file, in the beginning using any good
Editor (PE will work fine), with a record that contains the
names of all the fields, without the quotes, but with the
commas. Like so:

fielda,fieldb,fieldc
"abc","152.3","morris"

3. Some database systems will perceive a comma-delimited field
which is numeric but with no quotes as a numeric item, so in the
example here,

fielda,fieldb,fieldc
"abc",152.3,"morris"

152.3 will be put into a numeric field in the dbf.

Good luck.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:41:00 -0700
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I recently purchased a Creative Modem Blaster 14.4 modem for $14.99 from
Fry's.  The box is labeled DSI Scout w/ a Creative sticker added ( I
think Creative recently bought DSI).  The box specifies Operating Power
550mw, Sleep 15mw, and Stop 1mw.  Converting at 5V yields, I believe,
Operating Power 110ma, Sleep 30ma and Stop 0.2ma.

It doesn't have the nice X-jack of Megahertz, but it works fine, and it
may be the lowest power requirement I've seen.  The 350ma listed in the
Palmtop Catalog must be a typo.

Regards,

Curt Low

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> original messages

> Qman wrote:
>    >At 09:21 AM 8/6/98 +800, you wrote:
>  > >Well, Frys was selling Creative Modem blasters for $14.99us a few weeks
> ...
>  > Boy! $14.95. The Ultimate Summer 1998 Palmtop Catalog (Thaddeus Computing)
>  > page 15 has them advertised for $69.95. Go figure!
>
 hplx <hplx@COMPORTS.COM> wrote:
 Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:36:50 -0400

> >And in the Thaddeus catalog, they listed it as rated at something like
> >350ma when in use--well beyond the 150ma the palmtop supplies to the port.
>
> >What is the correct amp rating for the creative modem blaster?
> ----
> >http://comports.com/hplx   <--old stuff is new...
>


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<HTML>

<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>
<PRE></PRE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
I recently purchased a Creative Modem Blaster 14.4 modem for $14.99 from
Fry's.&nbsp; The box is labeled DSI Scout w/ a Creative sticker added (
I think Creative recently bought DSI).&nbsp; The box specifies Operating
Power 550mw, Sleep 15mw, and Stop 1mw.&nbsp; Converting at 5V yields, I
believe, Operating Power 110ma, Sleep 30ma and Stop 0.2ma.

<P>It doesn't have the nice X-jack of Megahertz, but it works fine, and
it may be the lowest power requirement I've seen.&nbsp; The 350ma listed
in the Palmtop Catalog must be a typo.

<P>Regards,

<P>Curt Low

<P>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>original messages</BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>
<PRE>Qman wrote:
&nbsp;&nbsp; >At 09:21 AM 8/6/98 +800, you wrote:
&nbsp;> >Well, Frys was selling Creative Modem blasters for $14.99us a few weeks
...
&nbsp;> Boy! $14.95. The Ultimate Summer 1998 Palmtop Catalog (Thaddeus Computing)
&nbsp;> page 15 has them advertised for $69.95. Go figure!</PRE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
<NOBR><B>&nbsp;</B>hplx &lt;hplx@COMPORTS.COM> wrote:</NOBR>
<BR><NOBR><B>&nbsp;</B>Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:36:50 -0400</NOBR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>
<PRE>>And in the Thaddeus catalog, they listed it as rated at something like
>350ma when in use--well beyond the 150ma the palmtop supplies to the port.

>What is the correct amp rating for the creative modem blaster?
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Hello Derryl,

> I have several reference pages in HTML format I want to keep on my =
palmtop.
> Due to a space crunch I would like to keep them compressed.  Is there a =
way to
> leave them compressed but still view them with HV without manually
> uncompressing them each time I wish to view them?

Not as far as I know.

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:43:14 -0400
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Here is my approach to connecting to the 200LX's serial port.

A very flexible and cost-effective approach to providing serial access to
the 200 lx can be achieved by bying a cable made by aware electronics (see
WWW.AW-EL.COM) which has the 200 lx plug on 1 end and a standard 6-pin
modular phone connector on the other.  They also sell a pair of RS232
adapters (including a 6 foot extension cord) which will let you attach the
modular plug to the 9 or 25 pin serial port of your desktop/laptop, which
then is functionally equivalent to the cables available elsewhere.  To
allow 2 palmtops to talk to each other, if you want a hard-wired
connection and do not want to use IR, you can buy 2 of their cables and a
6 pin in-line "null" coupler that they will make up. You can also crimp a
6-pin modular adapter onto the end of a newton keyboard cable (difficult,
but quite doable), which can then connect to the aware cable using a
generic in-line 6-pin coupler such as the one available from Radio Shack
for $2.50.  If one were adventurous, he or she could mount a 6-pin female
connector on the newton keyboard for direct plugging-in.  The wiring
arrangement can be obtained from AWARE and free drivers are available for
the keyboard on the WWW.

The advantage of this method is that one cable can serve all the serial
needs, by terminating in a more-standard modular connector which in turn
can connect to anything.

Prices (contact vendor for definitive pricing):

3' LX-to-modular cable          Aware electronics       $25
modular-to-RS232 adapters
with 6' extension cord          Aware                   $14
mod to mod 6 pin coupler        Radio Shack             $3.49
null mod to mod 6 pin coupler   Aware                   ?
newton keyboard                 various                 ~$80
10-pk 6pin connectors           Radio Shack             $3.99

The intended product that AWARE electronics makes which uses the cable is
a nifty serial-port geiger counter the size of a pack of cards, which I
have extensively used for a research project. The geiger counter can be
interfaced with the 200 lx using this cable and run by very small dos
programs provided, with long battery life, or can be attached to a regular
desk or laptop.  If interested, check out the aware electronics web site
(www.aw-el.com).  They also make a wonderful graphing program (Aw-graph)
which runs under dos and is quite tiny. I have copied this letter to Bryan
Boardman, who runs the company, so his email address is available for
inquiries.

I hope this approach is useful to others,


Lionel

 _____________________________________________________

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Research Lab
Albert Einstein College of Medicine
1300 Morris Park Avenue
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Bronx, NY 10461

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 00:48:06 -0400
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Fellow HP users,

A while ago there was a discussion about software wishes. I would like to
see a stop-watch/timing gate running from the infra-red port. In practice,
I imagine a set-up with the IR beam pointing into a mirror or reflector
(like a bicycle reflector), with the software set up to start a clock when
the beam is broken for more than (say) 1/10th of a second, and stopped when
the beam is broken a second time. There may need to be a little monitoring
utility to help initially align the beam (ie. that tells you when the
reflected signal is falling back onto the IR receiver).

I have no DOS programming skills, so am unable to do this myself, but I
imagine this would be fairly basic for an experienced programmer, and that
it would be useful for things like lap times, reaction times etc.

Just an idea,

Doric Swain.
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<SNIP>
>A while ago there was a discussion about software wishes. I would like to
>see a stop-watch/timing gate running from the infra-red port. In practice,
>I imagine a set-up with the IR beam pointing into a mirror or reflector
>(like a bicycle reflector), with the software set up to start a clock when
>the beam is broken for more than (say) 1/10th of a second, and stopped when
>the beam is broken a second time. There may need to be a little monitoring
>utility to help initially align the beam (ie. that tells you when the
>reflected signal is falling back onto the IR receiver).
<SNIP>

This would yes be really cool.  Two problems as I see them, though.  One,
the IR transmitter does not project very far.  Something like less than
half a metre.  Two, it doesn't project a beam at all, but more like a desk
lamp, it radiates a cone of infrared light...


R. James Scheffler
-and-
Srakkt-Hrairh
******************
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:38:28 +0800
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The current version of the Hplx Newton Keyboard Driver (at least the one I've
got) hangs when used with the upgraded Hplx whenever I try to switch sysapps
with the apple key. Switching between sysapps on the hplx itself is not a
problem, but every once in a while, I'd hit these keys when I'm trying to hit
the mapped function keys instead (i know, clumsy me), and the darn thing hangs.
I remember reading somewhere that Mack Baguette was looking into fixing the
driver. Any news of an update, anyone? Mack, if you are listening in, are you
really working on this? Any info would be much appreciated ....
Thanks.
jasonyap

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:14:15 +0800
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Hi there!

> > I have several reference pages in HTML format I want to keep on my =
palmtop.
> > Due to a space crunch I would like to keep them compressed.  Is there =
a way to
> > leave them compressed but still view them with HV without manually
> > uncompressing them each time I wish to view them?
>
> Not as far as I know.
>
>  Avi Meshar
>  D&A Software, Inc.

So far I have not seen a solution where you can view compressed HTML
files on the 200LX. But you could solve the problem in an easy way.
Use PNS200 together with Z-RAY and then create a batch file
which will start when you in Filer highlight a zip file with your HTML
files and when you press Enter you will be able to see which HTML files =
are
in your zip file. Then press Space (Z-Ray will then uncompress the file
you have choosed). Then the next line in your batch file opens up the
uncompressed HTML file using HV. After you close HV, the batch file =
deletes
the HTML file. Some extra keystokes are required, but you will be able to
view your files without manually delete uncompressed files after you have
view them. I have not tried this but should work and maybe there are even
better way so do it.

Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:24:21 +0200
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              Frans Veldman <veldman@KNOWARE.NL>
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At 02:44 PM 8/11/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Frans:
>
>> I expect a 128Mb version soon, and I've heard rumours that 256Mb is
>> possible too. And since these guys are not telling you honestly what's
>> going on, you'd better be a little patient unless you are willing to pay an
>> upgrade fee every month.
>
>You are being judgemental and unfair. You know nothing about
>the people involved, yet you are willing to smear their

I don't know anything about the people involved, that's true. However, I
know something about business ethics.
I'm a software and hardware developer myself. So are you. It is quite rude
to sell a customer version 2.00, and then a week after the customer
receives it, to release a version 3.00, without a reasonable upgrade policy
for the people who just bought version 2.00.

>reputation because of your addiction to a gadget, which you
>probably do not even need. Very ugly indeed, beyond just

It doesn't matter what I need. I'm a customer, willing to pay a lot of $
for something I like. If the 64Mb version would have been available a month
ago, I might have decided to buy it. And if Thaddeus would have phoned,
faxed, or mailed me with a statement like "We just received your order, but
we are almost ready to have a 64Mb model. Options: wait three weeks longer
and get the 64Mb version, or continue the 32Mb order" I would have had no
reason to complain.

Apart from this: Together with the new 32Mb palmtop I also ordered the
"Super Software Carousel", which was advertised as "available now!". I
STILL DON'T HAVE IT! I got instead a piece of paper telling me that it was
going to be shipped mid-late July, which apparently didn't happen.

That I order SC together with a 32Mb machine isn't a total coincidence: I
had some use for the combination of these two products.

Netto effect: I ordered something which still isn't complete, and can still
not be used as I intended. In the mean time, there is a new model
available, and I have not been offered a reasonable way of upgrading.

It appears to me that this is a valid reason to feel unhappy about the
whole situation.

It is like ordering a new car, and while still waiting for the wheels, a
new model becomes suddenly available.

>Sorry, Frans! You have crossed a line of propriety. You owe an
>apology.

Sorry, but I feel that Thaddeus owes me an apology.

>I am a vendor in this market too. Your formula is a sure way
>to kill the vendors in this market. It is a loser for
>everyone.

Not at all. We are talking here about a market which has a great
"gadget-component" in it. This means that people are not too concerned
about the amount of money they have to pay. (There are simply no other
options). People are willing to pay, until the moment they feel that they
are not treated in a fair way. With the latter I mean not the prices, but:
a) informing the people about delays in shipments, b) informing the people
about new versions of the stuff they just ordered, c) don't try how many
times people are willing to pay yet again for an upgrade. If this is not
going to change, *this* is going to kill the market. If customers are
treated in a different way, I'm willing as before to pay large amounts of
$, which will keep the market alive. And I have seen enough replies to be
convinced that I'm not standing alone in this opinion.


I'm open for any further discussion on this subject.

Frans

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:44:10 EDT
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You comment that the new ATA Viking Flash Card will not work in your 100lx.  I
have good news.  If you are able to get ahold of the Ace driver, acecard,com,
and add it to your root directory, and add the line
                    device = acecard.com/sdp

to your config.sys file, I am confident that the 100lx will recognize the
card.

I hope that helps.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:03:37 -0600
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              Chris Hoover <choover@IDEATANK.COM>
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Was on Microsoft's Y2K pages, and they had a link about the DOS 5.0 ROM =
in our beloved companions.  That link is:
http://www.microsoft.com/ithome/topics/year2k/product/DOS50HP.htm


The quick summary:  Some little things are inconvienient, but you can =
work around them.  It'll keep working, though.

CJH
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 07:18:43 -0700
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Mikhail, the HV.HOT entries are two liners, and when you add
them to the list via HV , you can change the line that explains what
they are in your own words.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:29:14 -0500
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              jviehweg@GVMAIL.IH.LUCENT.COM
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Does anyone have any experience with the Flash memory cards that are
in the current "Palmtop Catalog"?  Are they fast?  Is the price
reasonable?

And now for something completely different...

Due to a recent disaster (no, not my HP, thank goodness!), I don't
have a lot of my old list archives.  Which Ethernet adapters will
work on the 200LX, where is a good place to get one, and about how
much?

Thanks.

jaime
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 07:40:20 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Jaime A. Viehweg wrote:

> Does anyone have any experience with the Flash memory cards that are
> in the current "Palmtop Catalog"?  Are they fast?  Is the price
> reasonable?

Are you speaking of the Simple Tech high-capacity cards?  If so, they're
great.  I've been using a 160MB card for a few months now, and it's just
fantastic.  The only trouble is that with a card of this capacity, it
takes the cardBios client in the 200LX 2-3 seconds to recognize the card
when you insert it.

It's great power and speedwise.  And capacity-wise, too!  :)

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              Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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POST/LX Users:

I need advice. I have a mailing list digest that I have been reading
using lxdr launched as an external in POST/LX. This works really well
for reading messages, but is not a solution for actually replying to
those messages or for saving info to other files.

Has anyone found a better solution for handling digests? Wouldn't it be
nice if POST/LX had some native support for this? :)

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:03:19 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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>> I expect a 128Mb version soon, and I've heard rumours that 256Mb is
>> possible too.

<RAMBLE>
All this talk about memory upgrades is nice, but someone tell me why "we"
(read as someone who knows how) can't do a processor upgrade too? (not just
clock speed)
Is this not possible. Let's design a new motherboard with the same form
factor but with a faster chip set.
</RAMBLE>

Let me hear from some of you who know the real pros and cons, I'm just
wishing.




--------------
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over wires and that, were it possible to do so, the thing would be of
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:22:57 -0500
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              "Nestor A. Ramirez" <nestoral@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
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Subject:      Re: FS: Connectivity Pack
Comments: To: Yujin Nagasawa <ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU>

It's mine.!!!!
 Tell me where to send the check and for how much. Thanks.

Nestor A. Ramirez, MD, MPH
Medical Director, NICU
Provena Covenant Medical Center
1400 West Park Street
Urbana, IL   61801
-----Original Message-----
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 4:30 PM
Subject: FS: Connectivity Pack


>For Sale:
>
>HP Connectivity Pack
>-comes with cable, adaptors, disks, manuals etc.
>-$35 shpping included.
>
>Please E-mail me privately.
>
>Thank you,
>Yujin
>
>------------
>Yujin Nagasawa
>
>State University of New York at Stony Brook
>
>ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
>QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:43:24 -0400
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              Yujin Nagasawa <ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU>
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Sorry!!!
It has been sold.

Yujin


>It's mine.!!!!
> Tell me where to send the check and for how much. Thanks.
>
>Nestor A. Ramirez, MD, MPH
>Medical Director, NICU
>Provena Covenant Medical Center
>1400 West Park Street
>Urbana, IL   61801
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Yujin Nagasawa <ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
>Date: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 4:30 PM
>Subject: FS: Connectivity Pack
>
>
>>For Sale:
>>
>>HP Connectivity Pack
>>-comes with cable, adaptors, disks, manuals etc.
>>-$35 shpping included.
>>
>>Please E-mail me privately.
>>
>>Thank you,
>>Yujin
>>
>>------------
>>Yujin Nagasawa
>>
>>State University of New York at Stony Brook
>>
>>ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
>>QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:06:22 -0700
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Sorry to bother the whole list, but I'm considering getting a Nokia datacard
for use in my HP200lx.

I'm just looking for some personal experiences.

How well does it work?

How do you do SMS with it?

My 700lx has a SMS program which works nice.  How does it compare with just
the data card?

How is battery life with it?

If you have the manual for it, specifically what is the AT command to force
the fax mode to class one instead of class three?

Now I will be using it with the Nokia 2190.  I may switch to the 6190.  Can
I simply get a new cable to connect the new phone?

In general do you like the card?

Thanks.

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments)
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:56:29 +1000
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              Crombie Redd <crombie@NETSPACE.NET.AU>
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Tim et al,

>Still can't get WP5.1 to work in DOS on my 200LX (It locks up on the start
>screen, w/ "*Please Wait*" in the lower left hand corner

It only appears to lock up - mine does the same. I discovered that by
pressing the down arrow key briefly but firmly WP will move on and open to a
blank screen apart from the status info on the bottom right of the screen.

Good luck. Crombie Redd

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:18:50 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Hi Nagasawa san
Yu giving everything away?
Wanna trade fer something?

Semper Mobilis,
yor tomodachi al :) .............

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:51:28 +800
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On 1998-08-12 RAYMONDT@hood-emh3.army.mil said:
   >Wow.
   >ESC; then Enter works!
   >It's a great work around.
   >Wonder why I have to use it though...
   >I'm not running SC I've tried to install both it and MAXDOS in the
   >past and just have had bad luck (system's been wiped since then ...
   >shouldn't be any residual files...).
        (snip)

Glad it worked, I don't know why either, but it's hard to argue with a
successful workaround. MAXDOS is well worth the trouble it takes to
setup, I run HDM under it and have no problems with memory. I don't
remember to many problems with setup, and if I can do it it shouldn't
be that hard for you smarter folks. Let me know if you still have
problems, I'll try to remember how I did it.

Paul
Paul Yarnell
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> >I imagine a set-up with the IR beam pointing into a mirror or reflector
> >(like a bicycle reflector)
>
> This would yes be really cool.  Two problems as I see them, though.  One,
> the IR transmitter does not project very far.  Something like less than
> half a metre.

I found with remote commander, I could control my TV set from several
metres away - and also bounce it off walls... the mirror would reflect
better than my walls, one would think <g>

> Two, it doesn't project a beam at all, but more like a desk
> lamp, it radiates a cone of infrared light...
But the path back to the IR port detects only a small part of that cone,
dispite what may be significant spill-over: a beam, in effect.

Agreed that it would be cool. But I've got this picture of it being used
for a milkbar door ... and someone making off with the lx!

> R. James Scheffler
> -and-
> Srakkt-Hrairh
> ******************
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> -Srakkt-Hrairh
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 21:09:50 -0700
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Lynn,

Thanks for the tip. Any idea of where I can get the driver?


>I hope that helps.

It did, very much!

Brian

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:05:43 +0800
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Hi,

Instead of getting a datacard, you can look at the data cable for Nokia. It
costs much less, draws only power from serial port and this cable is
supposed to connect the Nokia GSM phone to a laptop serial port. (I haven't
tried it though)

I believe the newer Nokia GSMs has a sort of built-in data/dax modem so you
only need the cable to access it via a laptop. The software is Windows based
....

HTH


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim S. <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, August 14, 1998 7:11 AM
Subject: Users w/Nokia Datacard


>Sorry to bother the whole list, but I'm considering getting a Nokia
datacard
>for use in my HP200lx.
>
>I'm just looking for some personal experiences.
>
>How well does it work?
>
>How do you do SMS with it?
>
>My 700lx has a SMS program which works nice.  How does it compare with just
>the data card?
>
>How is battery life with it?
>
>If you have the manual for it, specifically what is the AT command to force
>the fax mode to class one instead of class three?
>
>Now I will be using it with the Nokia 2190.  I may switch to the 6190.  Can
>I simply get a new cable to connect the new phone?
>
>In general do you like the card?
>
>Thanks.
>
>-Tim
>tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
>tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments)
>http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:34:53 -0400
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FYI: Asked Starfish tech support about Rex synching with the
200LX...following is their response.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
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        Behalf Of Tom O'Brien
Sent:   Wednesday, August 12, 1998 11:47 AM
To:     rex-l@lists.panix.com
Subject:        HP 200LX to REX ?

Steve,

Here's a copy of my posting on REX Rumor Central from 8/10/98:
There is currently no REX/TrueSync synchronization solution for the HP
200LX, and there are no plans to develop a TrueSync solution for REX on the
200LX's proprietary operating environment.
You might know that Starfish has developed an exclusive
TrueSync solution for the REX for the HP 360LX and 620LX CE
2.0 models, yet it appears your model cannot be upgraded to
CE 2.0 due to the processor requirements.  For more
information, you might want to browse
http://www.hp.com/handheld/palmtops/palmtops.html
Regards,

Tom O'Brien
Starfish



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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:39:13 -0400
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I usually do the back-up battery every year.  Only a couple bucks and well
worth the investment.

Ray

//snip//
As a rule, 18 months. I'd say your living on borrowed time. A change would
be prudent.

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:47:40 -0400
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I concern completely.  I have had my two for a couple of months and love it.
Has survived coffee spills etc and had keep my 200LX clean and dry.

Ray

//snip

I highly recommend the Kensington Palmtop Wetsuit 2.0 for the 200LX.

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 21:52:37 -0500
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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This may be a good way to keep compressed files on the palmtop
for Verticle Reader also.  Thanks for the tip, Jorgen.

Best regards,

Claud

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> Hi there!
>
> So far I have not seen a solution where you can view compressed HTML
> files on the 200LX. But you could solve the problem in an easy way.
> Use PNS200 together with Z-RAY and then create a batch file
> which will start when you in Filer highlight a zip file with your HTML
> files and when you press Enter you will be able to see which HTML files =
are
> in your zip file. Then press Space (Z-Ray will then uncompress the file
> you have choosed). Then the next line in your batch file opens up the
> uncompressed HTML file using HV. After you close HV, the batch file =
deletes
> the HTML file. Some extra keystokes are required, but you will be able =
to
> view your files without manually delete uncompressed files after you =
have
> view them. I have not tried this but should work and maybe there are =
even
> better way so do it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 20:39:33 -0700
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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Steve Meisner wrote:

> There is currently no REX/TrueSync synchronization solution for the HP
> 200LX, and there are no plans to develop a TrueSync solution for REX on the
> 200LX's proprietary operating environment.

ROFL.  Let me get this straight.  They have a solution... for Windows CE
2.0... but don't want to develop for a "proprietary operating
environment."  That's good for a few laughs... before we MARCH TO THEIR
HEADQUARTERS WITH PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES!

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 20:54:35 -0700
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Hi Jorgen,

> So far I have not seen a solution where you can view compressed HTML
> files on the 200LX. But you could solve the problem in an easy way.
> Use PNS200 together with Z-RAY and then create a batch file
> which will start when you in Filer highlight a zip file with your HTML
> files and when you press Enter you will be able to see which HTML files
> are
> in your zip file.

Yes, that is another way to do it, true enough.

As Ed Padin pointed out, these solutions work for a single
HTML document. If there are links from that one to another
document, these solutions do not work anymore.

I just hope no one asks that HV be modified to unzip HTML
documents <VBG>...

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 20:54:39 -0700
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Frans:

First I want to state in public that I have a deep admiration
for you, your achievements and your opinions, even if I
cannot possibly agree with your opinions. Yesterday I
recommended in a discussion your product to a company that is
looking for just this type of software for their LAN
implementation. But I did not tell them I strongly disagree
with your opinions! ;-)

Here is the netto of this, as you say:

Mach developed something, and you felt that for him to not
tell you this ahead of your purchase of a 32MB from Thaddeus
was unconscionable.

I think you owe an apology to Mack, not Thaddeus, who is
simply a reseller, not the developer of the 64MB machine.

Dragging ethics into this is irrelevant. There is no ethical
issue involved. Both machines 32MB and 64MB are continuing to
be sold. The price has not changed because of the
introduction. The warranty is still in force. There is a
market for both machines. Support continues for both machines.

If you suffered some damage or loss because of the
introduction, other than the bruise to the ego for having
guessed wrong when to buy, then maybe ethics could enter.

You say they should have told you. You avoid answering the
question where to draw the line, because it is not comfortable
for you to answer it. Do you tell all customers who purchased
within the last week? The last month? the last 24 months?

I know, and you know, that your product is NOT pre-announced
until it is ready for sale. Why do you apply a different
standard to Thaddeus? (I _did_ tell the company's
representative to ask about the upgrade policy offered for
_your_ product, which I recommended yesterday!)

At most you should be able to ask the vendor to allow an
exchange. Did you ask them for it?

We instituted a policy in April 1998 that provided purchasers
of WWW/LX Plus a free upgrade if they purchased in 1998,
because we felt that was a reasonable way to give customers
the "warning" you so desire, without having to discuss in
public out plans ahead of time.

But Thaddeus is another company, and they make their own
policies. You, as a customer, could easily write to Hal
Goldstein (hal_goldstein@thaddeus.com) and discuss it. My
experience with Hal as a dealer for me, and as a vendor, and a
person I deal with on several items, is that he is a
reasonable person, with a good sense for what is the right
thing to do. Try him!

Instead, you chose to attack Mack for developing something and
not telling you. For that I believe you owe an apology to
Mack.

I'll be delighted to continue this with you, if you really
think there is anything else to say, in private email, as time
permits, but not on the public venue. It is a waste of
bandwidth anymore. (Besides, we have a person(?) here who gets
yawny and bored when anything more than simple English is
written - so let's not strain his brains! ;-) ...)

Best Regards,

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:39:26 -0700
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Avi wrote:

> (Besides, we have a person(?) here who gets
> yawny and bored when anything more than simple English is
> written - so let's not strain his brains! ;-) ...)

According to my wife, I don't have a brain.  That's why I have a 200LX.
 <g>

Bill

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 01:42:52 -0700
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On 12 Aug  Mikhail Epelbaum <mepelbaum@ATTCANADA.NET> asked about: printer
codes in Memo application


This may have been answered already, but in case it has not, the answer is yes,
it is possible and easy IF you know what codes you need.  Put the codes right
in the body of your text, wherever you need them.

On the 100LX or 200LX, generate the escape character by pushing <shift>-<escape
key>.  That should give you the left arrow escape symbol in the main memo
screen.  Then just add the rest of the code, remembering that the last
character in the string should be an upper case letter.

Some "catches:"  The printer should accept the codes rather than print them,
but memo will count the characters in the escape sequence in the maximum
characters per line for determining where to insert a return.  Therefore, if
you have your line length set for 80, and you have a 10 character escape code,
you can add only 70 "real" characters to the line.  The work around is to put
the escape code on a line by itself.  So, set your top margin for one line
higher (lower number, higher position) than normal, put the escape code on the
top line and follow it with a carrIage return.  If you find a need for escape
codes in the middle of your text (to change type styles, etc.), often it is
possible to put the escape code on the blank line between paragraphs to avoid
"consuming" space for "real" text.

Another alternative is putting escape sequences in the initialization string
box just before you print (menu, file, print, setup).  However, you need
another "trick" here, since you can't use the <shift>-<escape> key sequence to
put a genuine escape character in the initialization or termination string box.
Compose your escape sequence, or sequences, in the main memo screen where the
<shif>-<escape> does work, highlight the results and cut or copy it; go to the
initialization string box and paste.

Experiment sending material to your printer with the LX set in the main setup
menu (control-filer, F3) for HP LaserJet and for IBM ProPrinter.  In printing
to an HP 500 DeskJet I find that while the filer's bold and underline do not
work if I'm set to the IBM printer in setup, I can get far more symbols and
characters to print if the LX thinks it is sending code to an IBM.  And, you
can set the printer to bold and underline with escape sequences using
<shift>-<escape>, just doesn't look as pretty on the screen!

Now, it is a pain to manually key in those escape sequences every time you
compose something in memo.  If all you need is an initialization string,
pasting the code to the initialization box as described above will solve the
problem.  The LX should retain that string for you between sessions.  But, if
you want different strings for different types of documents (letters, reports,
etc.) then you'll want to put the code in the body of your documents and leave
the initialization string box empty.

To do that, use a set of macros (one for each string).  BUT, you can't key the
escape symbol into a macro edit screen, and you can't paste it there either.
It may look like it pastes in, but when you close the screen, the LX changes it
and makes it ineffective.  Here's how you beat that:  First, open the edit
screen and key in the label you want on the macro, then close the edit screen
and exit the macros.  In memo start macro recording (shift, Fn, F<#>) and then
key in the escape sequence starting with <shift>-<escape>.  When finished, do
(shift, Fn, F<#>) again to stop recording.  If you make a mistake, you have to
do it all over again.  It is OK to open the main macro screen after you do
this, BUT DO NOT PUNCH IN TO THE EDIT SCREEN FOR THAT MACRO.  If you do, the LX
"normalizes" the escape symbol and steals its "power."  Check your work instead
by playing the macro back in memo.

Once I'm happy with my results, I write protect that macro set (attrib +r) so I
won't accidentally open the macro edit and then stupidly punch "save."

Hope this is clear; if not, feel free to email me directly for clarification.

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:29:05 +0100
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> Instead of getting a datacard, you can look at the data cable for Nokia.
It
> costs much less, draws only power from serial port and this cable is
> supposed to connect the Nokia GSM phone to a laptop serial port. (I
haven't
> tried it though)
>
> I believe the newer Nokia GSMs has a sort of built-in data/dax modem so
you
> only need the cable to access it via a laptop. The software is Windows
based
Nope, the Nokia's require a piece of software called the Celluar Data Suite
which
runs under WIN95 only (although there is a version under development for
the Psion5)

Actually, you can send SMS with just the cable, but if you wish to do Data
as well
it ain't going to work.

I also looked at the SH888 Ericsson phone, nice but is only IRDA compatible
(to the
extent that even if you use the serial cable supplied you still need to
have IRDA
drivers loaded, so no go with the HP200LX).

The only one which you can plug straight in is the GS18 Ericsson, a little
old but
might do the job.


I'd be inclined to go for a Psion gold card since they can also double as a
      landline


(expensive, but nice)





This is all for GSM phones, anything else all bets are off <grin>...


Hope this helps.





(ignore stupid disclaimer added by company's mail software, thanks).




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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 01:32:50 -0700
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All,

        Please forgive the full quote below but I feel it is relevant to the
subject.
        I know from personal experience, if one were to ask Mack if something
new was in the works, you would be advised and given the opportunity to
purchase the new product.  Given my prior dealings with Thaddeus, I
would expect the same from them.  Please consider that Thaddeus is a
dealer, not a manufacture.  Their liabilities are different than a
manufacture.  A manufacture may have an extra bit of latitude in
introducing a new product that a dealer cannot prudently afford and
continue their relationship with the manufacture.  Both of the parties
involved have an excellent record and support our beloved palmtop.  May
I suggest that we drop this thread out of respect for those that choose
to support the 200LX, they have earned and deserve that respect.

Colin Thompson

A. Meshar wrote:
>
> Frans:
>
> First I want to state in public that I have a deep admiration
> for you, your achievements and your opinions, even if I
> cannot possibly agree with your opinions. Yesterday I
> recommended in a discussion your product to a company that is
> looking for just this type of software for their LAN
> implementation. But I did not tell them I strongly disagree
> with your opinions! ;-)
>
> Here is the netto of this, as you say:
>
> Mach developed something, and you felt that for him to not
> tell you this ahead of your purchase of a 32MB from Thaddeus
> was unconscionable.
>
> I think you owe an apology to Mack, not Thaddeus, who is
> simply a reseller, not the developer of the 64MB machine.
>
> Dragging ethics into this is irrelevant. There is no ethical
> issue involved. Both machines 32MB and 64MB are continuing to
> be sold. The price has not changed because of the
> introduction. The warranty is still in force. There is a
> market for both machines. Support continues for both machines.
>
> If you suffered some damage or loss because of the
> introduction, other than the bruise to the ego for having
> guessed wrong when to buy, then maybe ethics could enter.
>
> You say they should have told you. You avoid answering the
> question where to draw the line, because it is not comfortable
> for you to answer it. Do you tell all customers who purchased
> within the last week? The last month? the last 24 months?
>
> I know, and you know, that your product is NOT pre-announced
> until it is ready for sale. Why do you apply a different
> standard to Thaddeus? (I _did_ tell the company's
> representative to ask about the upgrade policy offered for
> _your_ product, which I recommended yesterday!)
>
> At most you should be able to ask the vendor to allow an
> exchange. Did you ask them for it?
>
> We instituted a policy in April 1998 that provided purchasers
> of WWW/LX Plus a free upgrade if they purchased in 1998,
> because we felt that was a reasonable way to give customers
> the "warning" you so desire, without having to discuss in
> public out plans ahead of time.
>
> But Thaddeus is another company, and they make their own
> policies. You, as a customer, could easily write to Hal
> Goldstein (hal_goldstein@thaddeus.com) and discuss it. My
> experience with Hal as a dealer for me, and as a vendor, and a
> person I deal with on several items, is that he is a
> reasonable person, with a good sense for what is the right
> thing to do. Try him!
>
> Instead, you chose to attack Mack for developing something and
> not telling you. For that I believe you owe an apology to
> Mack.
>
> I'll be delighted to continue this with you, if you really
> think there is anything else to say, in private email, as time
> permits, but not on the public venue. It is a waste of
> bandwidth anymore. (Besides, we have a person(?) here who gets
> yawny and bored when anything more than simple English is
> written - so let's not strain his brains! ;-) ...)
>
> Best Regards,
>
>  Avi Meshar
>  D&A Software, Inc.
>
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 18:54:36 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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> Here's a copy of my posting on REX Rumor Central from 8/10/98:
> There is currently no REX/TrueSync synchronization solution for the HP
> 200LX, and there are no plans to develop a TrueSync solution for REX on =
the
> 200LX's proprietary operating environment.

"Proprietary operating environment"- sure... :) Actually it shouldn't be
that difficult to make a sync program for the 200LX and REX. But frankly
speaking I personally don't see what's the point with having a REX and
200LX. I always have my 200LX with me and it's Very reliable- so I =
preffer
to keep my data in my palmtop.

Regards,

Jorgen


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|wallgren@singnet.com.sg |-----------------------------------------------|
|wallgren@newspage.com.sg|Unlike fine wine, bottled-up emotions do not   |
|                        |taste better with time...                      |
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 07:51:02 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Subject:      Re: HP 200LX and Rex device...
In-Reply-To:  David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> "Re: HP 200LX and Rex device..."
              (Aug 13,  8:39pm)
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> ROFL.  Let me get this straight.  They have a solution... for Windows CE
> 2.0... but don't want to develop for a "proprietary operating
> environment."  That's good for a few laughs... before we MARCH TO THEIR
> HEADQUARTERS WITH PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES!

Hold the pitchforks! I know someone who knows Phillipe Kahn (Starfish's CEO)
and have asked him to appeal directly to the top on our behalf. Probably won't
do any good, but it might get Tom O'Brien a lesson in proprietary operating
systems. :)

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:37:39 +0200
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              Frans Veldman <veldman@KNOWARE.NL>
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Subject:      Re: What about processor upgrading?
Comments: To: Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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At 02:03 PM 8/13/98 -0400, you wrote:
><RAMBLE>
>All this talk about memory upgrades is nice, but someone tell me why "we"
>(read as someone who knows how) can't do a processor upgrade too? (not just
>clock speed)

Because the processor isn't a separate item. In is in one chip, together
with all the other things (interrupt controller, PCMCIA interface, serial
ports, etc.).

If speed is a concern, it might be possible to "overclock" the chip. In the
old days, I often soldered a crystal with a higher frequency on a PC
motherboard. 10 to 20% often still works reliable. You might get even more
out of the chip. Remember: the speed which is guaranteed (the 16MHz) is
guaranteed because it works in *all* chips, from the worst to the best,
over the entire temperature range. Since there is some deviation in the
individual chips, you might be lucky and have one which accepts a much
higher speed. But even then, you won't even get close to 386 performance.
For me, this double speed is just exactly what I need. It removes the
traces of sluginess in the PIM and various other applications. No matter
how much faster the machine is, I'm not going to type faster. If it is able
to keep track of my typing speed, it is basically fast enough. Just my two
cents...

Frans

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Once upon a time everything was groovy. A small sweet company used
WordPerfect and Lotus for all their business, which meant syncing a palmtop
was a snap, because you could work on all your files directly on the
palmtop.

Then the Evil Corporate did a buyout and entered the picture. They decided
that Office 97 made a good torture device and so inflicted it upon all their
offices. Actually Office isn't that bad (for uber-laptop at work), but for a
palmtop it's a killer.

This leaves the hero (yours truly) stuck out in the cold. I have until the
end of the year, then I must change to Office97. If I have to convert every
document I have back and forth through different formats I'll never get
anything done. Evil Corporate has suggested I change to a CE device, which
only makes me that much more depressed.

Does anyone have a simple solution, or must I be "dumb-downed" to CE?

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ-TV

P.S. Remember about a week ago I was making fun of CE? Be careful what you
say, this could happen to you too.

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 05:38:44 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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> end of the year, then I must change to Office97. If I have to convert every
> document I have back and forth through different formats I'll never get
> anything done. Evil Corporate has suggested I change to a CE device, which
> only makes me that much more depressed.
>
> Does anyone have a simple solution, or must I be "dumb-downed" to CE?

My $0.02

If your company is mandating the use of Office97 and if you do a significant
amount of work using those native apps it might behoove you to get a CE
machine and forego the conversion hassles of the 200LX. Keep the 200 for
your personal stuff and for anything the CE can't handle.

The 2 palmtop approach might be clunky, but maybe it'll just be a temporary
transition while 1) CE catches up in functionality or 2) 200LX conversion
techniques to Office97 improves, tho I don't hold out a lot of hope for the
latter.

This way, you can just "play dumb" to your corporate masters <g>.

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:33:52 -0400
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              "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
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Even with a CE you will still have conversion of documents. The Pocket Word
in a CE is not compatible with Office 97 Word and must be converted. You can
do what I do and keep all documents in RTF format. Word reads it without
problem and the RTF-DOC (memo) program works. There is an occasional format
problem but overall it is pretty good.

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Longden C. Loo SMTP:lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 1998 8:39 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: 200lx to Office 97 conversion
>
> > end of the year, then I must change to Office97. If I have to convert
> every
> > document I have back and forth through different formats I'll never get
> > anything done. Evil Corporate has suggested I change to a CE device,
> which
> > only makes me that much more depressed.
> >
> > Does anyone have a simple solution, or must I be "dumb-downed" to CE?
>
> My $0.02
>
> If your company is mandating the use of Office97 and if you do a
> significant
> amount of work using those native apps it might behoove you to get a CE
> machine and forego the conversion hassles of the 200LX. Keep the 200 for
> your personal stuff and for anything the CE can't handle.
>
> The 2 palmtop approach might be clunky, but maybe it'll just be a
> temporary
> transition while 1) CE catches up in functionality or 2) 200LX conversion
> techniques to Office97 improves, tho I don't hold out a lot of hope for
> the
> latter.
>

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 16:00:27 +0100
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              Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
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Hi there,

today I tried to download the "Project Management Docs" from the
SUPER-Site, but it failed with the message:

<<< Can't Access Document: ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/project.zip>>>

How can I get this? I downloaded today the pjt2.exm  project-management-
software from:

<<< http://www.vector.co.jp/pack/dos/util/machine/hp/pjt20012.lzh >>>
the prog looks very good, but has japanese manual. Then I found out, that
there should exist an english translation on SUPER (look above).

Please give assistance, thanks in advance!

Axel

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:07:05 EDT
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              "Daniel Z. Sands" <dsands@BIDMC.HARVARD.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: 200lx to Office 97 conversion
Comments: To: River Wolf <rivrwolf@HOM.NET>

I would investigate the Psion 5 which is very nice (not quite as nice as
my 32 meg 200LX, but close).  IT has a 32 bit OS which is much better
than wince.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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Text of message from rivrwolf@HOM.NET, 14 Aug 1998, 08:03 AM
>...
> This leaves the hero (yours truly) stuck out in the cold. I have until
> the end of the year, then I must change to Office97. If I have to
> convert every document I have back and forth through different formats
> I'll never get anything done. Evil Corporate has suggested I change to a
> CE device, which only makes me that much more depressed.
>
> Does anyone have a simple solution, or must I be "dumb-downed" to CE?

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:18:58 +500
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              rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU
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From:         Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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On 1998-08-13 tim.shephard@bigfoot.com said:
   >Sorry to bother the whole list, but I'm considering getting a Nokia
   >datacard for use in my HP200lx.
   >I'm just looking for some personal experiences.
   >How well does it work?
   >How do you do SMS with it?
   >My 700lx has a SMS program which works nice.  How does it compare
   >with just the data card?
   >How is battery life with it?
   >If you have the manual for it, specifically what is the AT command
   >to force the fax mode to class one instead of class three?
   >Now I will be using it with the Nokia 2190.  I may switch to the
   >6190.  Can I simply get a new cable to connect the new phone?
   >In general do you like the card?
   >Thanks.

Hi Tim & list

I use my GSM nokia phone and 200LX for internet access a fair bit.  Right
now I am in Kunming China and am using my Australian based phone to access
the net.

From my personal experience there are a number of things to consider when
deciding on data via mobile phone.

GSM phones all apparently use a compression/sampling algorithm optimised for
voice. Some are so optimised to give maximum battery life that the DATA
throughput is choked.

The network you choose is a very important consideration.. GSM maximum data
speed is 9600. I travel a lot to different countries.  I found out the hard
way that my network "fixes" the speed on application for a data account.  I
was in Taiwan where dropouts at the time were frequent. (Iwanted to reduce
the speed to increase stability of the connection) The Data department are
extremely helpful if you know a little about what you are doing..They are
probably your best source of up to date info on current technology and what
will work best for you..

Nokia's data department was helpful also...

In answer to the questions above..

I like the card..I have had version I and now version II with the Nokia
2110E. The reason I went with this combo originally is that the Ericcson 288
had a data throughput of 2400 whilst Nokia was 9600. They were the two
recommended at the time for DATA on which I was primarily interested.

My version I card was rendered useless when the connector pins bent and were
crushed by me when I attached the cable one day.. Version II has a different
connector and is still good after nearly a year.

I havent used the SMS feature

Nokia has a web site that may answer about your specific cable questions..

I am using Battlog for the first time and have just had my Main Low warning
come up. Duracell Alkalines  First measure 2.72V  9.8 hours including 3.4
hours with Card Modem (Nokia Datacard) Present V 2.45  Lowest(During Modem
use) 2.17 V. Doublespeed 8M 200LX

The card worked "out of the box" and my init string is ATZ.

CPS with Nettamer is average 350cps with Highs of 750CPS.

I trust this info is of value to some.

BTW International access code in China is 00 if you want to add to your
World time DB. in your LX.

Regards

Russell
Net-Tamer V 1.11P - Test Drive

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:38:23 -0500
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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Hi,

I tried to get  ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/project.zip  with Internet
Explorer
and the response was something like " login access denied ".

Jon

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> From:         Axel KlagSMTP:klag@DWELLE.DE
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> Subject:      Project Management Docs
>
> Hi there,
>
> today I tried to download the "Project Management Docs" from the
> SUPER-Site, but it failed with the message:
>
> <<< Can't Access Document: ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/project.zip>>>
>
> How can I get this? I downloaded today the pjt2.exm  project-management-
> software from:
>
> <<< http://www.vector.co.jp/pack/dos/util/machine/hp/pjt20012.lzh >>>
> the prog looks very good, but has japanese manual. Then I found out, that
> there should exist an english translation on SUPER (look above).
>
> Please give assistance, thanks in advance!
>
> Axel
>
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              Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
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Frans,

I forwarded your comments to Hal Goldstein as they did not represent
the Hal I have known for some time. He is not currently a mailing list
member but will try to join later this weekend when he returns from
travel. I have no financial or other interest in Thaddeus except as a
customer.

GaryS

--------

From Hal Goldstein:

>Frans:
>
>> I expect a 128Mb version soon, and I've heard rumours that 256Mb is
>> possible too. And since these guys are not telling you honestly what's
>> going on, you'd better be a little patient unless you are willing to =
pay an
>> upgrade fee every month.
>

Hi Frans. I think a 128M version requires a major software effort. At =
this
time we have no such plans.  Hardware-wise it is possible.


<<I don't know anything about the people involved, that's true. However, =
I
know something about business ethics.
I'm a software and hardware developer myself. So are you. It is quite =
rude
to sell a customer version 2.00, and then a week after the customer
receives it, to release a version 3.00, without a reasonable upgrade =
policy
for the people who just bought version 2.00.>>


As a consumer, I understand your frustration.  However, I don't think =
what
you are saying is necessarily the case. Introducing upgrades -- especially
hardware where the costs are great and inventory expensive -- has been a
tricky busines in this industry as long as I can remember.  At what date =
do
you tell all your customers, "don't buy this product, but wait for the =
next,"
or "if you wait two weeks, the price will drop".  If you give customers a =
one
month warning, the guy who buys the product 31 days in advance is naturall=
y
quite upset.


<<It doesn't matter what I need. I'm a customer, willing to pay a lot of =
$
for something I like. If the 64Mb version would have been available a =
month
ago, I might have decided to buy it. And if Thaddeus would have phoned,
faxed, or mailed me with a statement like "We just received your order, =
but
we are almost ready to have a 64Mb model. Options: wait three weeks =
longer
and get the 64Mb version, or continue the 32Mb order" I would have had no
reason to complain.>>

In fact after July 1 we told everyone who called or emailed in an order =
of
the 64 meg option.  We didn't do as thorough a job as we might have. (We
didn't start selling the product until Aug 1).

<<Apart from this: Together with the new 32Mb palmtop I also ordered the
"Super Software Carousel", which was advertised as "available now!". I
STILL DON'T HAVE IT! I got instead a piece of paper telling me that it =
was
going to be shipped mid-late July, which apparently didn't happen.

That I order SC together with a 32Mb machine isn't a total coincidence: I
had some use for the combination of these two products.>>

We finally started shipping yesterday.  I can only say I am sorry. It =
wasn't
due to lack of attention. It was due to another common failing in this
industry, poor time estimation.

Both Software Carousel and Super Software Carousel took about 4 times as
much time as we had planned. SC was supposed to be a simple minor upgrade =
of
an existing product. It proved not to be simple. (For example, just when =
we
thought we were done, out of nowhere, the "June 13, 1998" bug appeared.
People with SC couldn't reboot on June 13!).

However, that was our problem, not yours, and I apologize.

<<Netto effect: I ordered something which still isn't complete, and can =
still
not be used as I intended. In the mean time, there is a new model
available, and I have not been offered a reasonable way of upgrading.>>

Just so you know the 64 meg upgrade is not trivial.  It takes 30-45 =
minutes of
labor.  Also, I had no long term plan or knowledge of these
upgrades.  I didn't learn of the 64 meg upgrade until mid-June.  We
make a profit from people who do one upgrade, then the next, but it is =
not
nearly as profitable as you might think.  These are our best customers,
where much of our revenue comes, and we try to balance customer sensibilit=
y
and staying in business. I certainly did not devise a devious plan to =
come
up with upgrades every few months.

From a business point of view, for many reasons, I would probably be just =
as
well off, if there were only 8 meg, or only 8 meg and 32 meg upgrades.
Having more (and more expensive options) means tying up precious funds in
inventory, creating more complex processes, increasing marketing expenses,
and as in your case creating unhappy customers. From a pure business =
point
of view, I would prefer to just have 8 and 32 meg upgrades.

That is not to say that we are offering 64 meg because we are such good
guys.  It will be profitable. Our mission is in part to push the edge in
what can be done with the 200LX.  We believe in the long run that is good
for us and good for business.

<<It appears to me that this is a valid reason to feel unhappy about the
whole situation.>>

I agree.


<<Sorry, but I feel that Thaddeus owes me an apology.>>

Yes, we are sorry about the lateness of SSC and SC.  We are sorry if your
order came in after July 1 and we didn't notify you.  Anyone, who is in =
that
boat can take another $100 off the 32 to 64 meg upgrade cost, if you =
include
this email.  From the consumer side, I would guess that is still not
completely satisfactory, however, all things considered, hopefully it is =
an
acceptable compromise.


<<People are willing to pay, until the moment they feel that they
are not treated in a fair way. With the latter I mean not the prices, =
but:
a) informing the people about delays in shipments, b) informing the =
people
about new versions of the stuff they just ordered, c) don't try how many
times people are willing to pay yet again for an upgrade. If this is not
going to change, *this* is going to kill the market. If customers are
treated in a different way, I'm willing as before to pay large amounts of
$, which will keep the market alive. And I have seen enough replies to be
convinced that I'm not standing alone in this opinion.>>

We are very customer-service oriented. Hopefully, others here will agree,
we have a great staff who genuninely want to do right by the customer.
That is not to say we don't screw up.  We do. Also, we are very small. We
are 15 people who publish 2 magazines, and create and support a catalog =
of
palmtop products. I would love to have more resources, but the economics =
of
staying in business, and treating my existing people well means I have to
stay small.

We have always viewed ourselves in partnership with our customers. Our
customers generate many of PALMTOP PAPER and HANDHELD PC MAGAZINE articles=
.
Our customers generate many of the new Palmtop product ideas. Everyone at
my company uses a 200LX. We all like the product a lot.

Thank you for your patronage.

Hal Goldstein
President
Thaddeus Computing
Publisher
PALMTOP PAPER, ULTIMATE PALMTOP CATALOG, HANDHELD PC MAGAZINE for Users =
of
Windows CE
www.thaddeus.com
hal@thaddeus.com

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:59:02 -0400
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              Steve Meisner <steve@MEISNER.MV.COM>
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From:         Steve Meisner <steve@MEISNER.MV.COM>
Subject:      Re: Project Management Docs
Comments: To: klag@DWELLE.DE

Ah, try it again. I just downloaded it with absolutely no problem.

Steve

On 08-14 11:00am,

 Hi there,

 today I tried to download the "Project Management Docs" from the
 SUPER-Site, but it failed with the message:

 <<< Can't Access Document: ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/project.zip>>>

 How can I get this? I downloaded today the pjt2.exm  project-management-
 software from:

 <<< http://www.vector.co.jp/pack/dos/util/machine/hp/pjt20012.lzh >>>
 the prog looks very good, but has japanese manual. Then I found out, that
 there should exist an english translation on SUPER (look above).

 Please give assistance, thanks in advance!

 Axel

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:57:32 -0500
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              "Nestor A. Ramirez" <nestoral@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
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From:         "Nestor A. Ramirez" <nestoral@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Subject:      Re: Apology

I mistakenly sent a message intended for Yugin Nagasawa to the whole list.
Sorry.  I will be available any day at 6 AM for the firing squad.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nestor A. Ramirez <nestoral@email.msn.com>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Yujin Nagasawa
<ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU>
Date: Thursday, August 13, 1998 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: FS: Connectivity Pack


>It's mine.!!!!
> Tell me where to send the check and for how much. Thanks.
>
>Nestor A. Ramirez, MD, MPH
>Medical Director, NICU
>Provena Covenant Medical Center
>1400 West Park Street
>Urbana, IL   61801
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Yujin Nagasawa <ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
>Date: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 4:30 PM
>Subject: FS: Connectivity Pack
>
>
>>For Sale:
>>
>>HP Connectivity Pack
>>-comes with cable, adaptors, disks, manuals etc.
>>-$35 shpping included.
>>
>>Please E-mail me privately.
>>
>>Thank you,
>>Yujin
>>
>>------------
>>Yujin Nagasawa
>>
>>State University of New York at Stony Brook
>>
>>ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
>>QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:35:04 -0700
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              Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
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From:         Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
Subject:      Re: HP 200LX and Rex device...
Comments: To: Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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On Fri, 14 Aug 1998, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> Actually it shouldn't be that difficult to make a sync program for
> the 200LX and REX.
Glad to hear it.

> But frankly speaking I personally don't see what's the point with
> having a REX and 200LX.

The rex would be used by co-workers, employees, Supervisors, family
members. And so forth.  The idea is to be able to take someone else's rex
and sych it with my stuff.




Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
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              Neo Sia Meng <neosiam@SINGNET.COM.SG>
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I don't seem to be able to find the file HP200LX.EXE.  It sed to be in
the S.U.P.E.R collection.  Is it being removed?

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:48:18 -0500
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              "Mehta, Pragnesh (Pragnesh)" <mehtap@LUCENT.COM>
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Subject:      FS: 200LX (4MEG) System
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Hi Folks,

I have the following 200LX system for sale:

1. Mint 200LX-4MEG (about 5 months old).
2. 5MEG HP Memory card.
3. HP AC Adopter.
4. Wetsuit carrying case.
5. Trial version of IntelliSync for the "200LX", including the serial cable.
6. Micro-Ref quick reference for LOT-123.
7. WordPerfect 5.1 guide.
8. DOS 5.0 User Guide.
9. Nameplate.
10. User manuals + Quick-Ref guide.

Price=$350 + shipping

Send me email, if interested..

Thanks,

Pragnesh Mehta
mehtap@lucent.com

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 19:10:37 +0000
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              Mikhail Epelbaum <mepelbaum@ATTCANADA.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Printer Codes in Memo
Comments: To: mcnulty.group@PALMTOP.COM
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> This may have been answered already, but in case it has not, the answer =
is yes,
> it is possible and easy IF you know what codes you need.  Put the codes =
right
> in the body of your text, wherever you need them.
>

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Thank you Charles for the comprehensive explanation.

For my application, I will just make a small file, containing the two
codes I need, and a macro to print it as needed. The old Tandy printer
likes to print double spaced, if left to it's own choices. This is
back to the days before Epson format became standard.

I work in several locations, and have to constantly print reports, on
two copy paper. This is why such preoccupation with old small dot matrix
printers and ribbons. (I suppose not too many people find themselves
putzing around with reinking devices lately, but that's another
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Mikhail
*********************************************************
Dr. Mikhail Epelbaum, MD FRCPC
Forensic/Correctional Psychiatry
Pager 416-842-1446 or 800-263-1420 x 635-274, Fax 905-628-4443
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 19:10:44 +0000
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              Mikhail Epelbaum <mepelbaum@ATTCANADA.NET>
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I notice that my 200LX has a peculiar problem: sometimes, characters
will not be echoed to the screen. For example. I might type "post", but
only "p st" appears. Despite the visual weirdness, the command will
still be executed properly. So far, this has been only a cosmetic
difficulty, but I am afraid it might be a symptom of something more
serious. Interestingly, this appears to be happening only in DOS, but
not in any applications. (Any missing letters here are the result of my
typing.)

This is my backup machine (and is still under warranty), the main one
having been sent for memory augmentation.

Any advice? Has anyone else experienced this sort of thing?

Mikhail
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 16:33:26 -0400
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              Feher Tamas <E.TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
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From:         Feher Tamas <E.TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU>
Subject:      Total Lotus solution on the palmtop / Y2000K tasks.

        Hello all,

    Even though I don't have a palmtop myself; I follow HPLX-L quite
    closely and wonder if there are some more things to do with Y2K.

    I know the following things for sure:

    -HP Corp. has made a public statement at least once that the
     DOS palmtop HP 200LX will remain in production until 2000.

    -HP lists the 200LX as Ready/Compliant on its webpage but

    -M$ admits MS-DOS 5.0 has (small?) problems with millenium

    -Detailed HP Y2K statement says, that for DOS palmtops those
     software, which get time directly from the hardware clock
     -thus bypassing the OS and BIOS- may/will cease to function.
     Could someone explain how/why/which SW will fail?

    -The work that Richard L. Dubs has done to port Minix to HPLX
     should be equally useful if we need to abandon the ROM-DOS 5.0
     and BOOT, say Caldera Opendos 7! (That's Y2K for sure.) Should
     a programmer seriously look into this item?

    -Seems like, the main weight of HP200LX software (may) lie in
     the products of Lotus Corp. I mean:

      1-2-3 v2.4: Total Compliance, with minuscule inconvenience.

      cc:Mail: I couldn't find any useful at Lotus site, as versions
         were listed by v4,5,6; not DOS/WIN/OS2. One please check!

      Agenda v2.x (not built-in): Many use this great SW, it's free
         from Lotus ftp site. Quote pending on Y2K comment. But it
         was discontinued, so they may not care.

      Freelance (not built-in): Believe it or not I have seen TWO
         palmtoppers (a 100LXer and a Sharp PC3100 fan) using this
         on handheld. Freelance does not do data processing, so it
         must be Compliant.

      I wonder if a new stategy to convince would-be HPLXers should
      use "Proven millenium Lotus software at your thumbs."

      BTW, seems like Lotus made 1-2-3 v2.x essentially free, as their
      ftp site has official patch to remove copy protection from 2.01
      disks - I consider this an invitition to a ...

      We could be happier if HPx00LX had IBM DOS vs. MS-DOS. Then it
      could declared be a total Lotus solution by now. But IBM DOS
      never made it into ROM-DOS format, I bet.

      And finally, are these of any use for you?

       <www2.support.lotus.com/ftp/pub/desktop/123/dos/template>
              quicken.exe       (self-extract)      129KB

       <www2.support.lotus.com/ftp/pub/comm/ccmail/misc_utils>
              snapshot.com      (executable)        46KB

                    Sincerely Yours:
                                        Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 16:10:03 -0500
Reply-To:     Paul Knight <paul.knight@prairiecomm.com>
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Hi!  Where can one purchase one of the Trans Digital Parallel Port
PCMCIA cards?  I've done some extensive searching, and no one seems to
have ever heard of them.

Thanks much,

Paul
paul.knight@prairiecomm.com

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 17:05:01 -0500
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              "Charles E. Sutherland" <sutherla@SWBELL.NET>
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Frankly, I am very appreciative of the contribution that Thaddeus =
Computing people and the other pioneers in the HP200LX community have =
made to my life.  I use the HP 200LX because it gives me FREEDOM and the =
TOOLS to make a great life; the work of Hal and the rest of his cadre =
have given me the best palmtop tool available and I thank them for it.  =
I am clear about their dedication to us users because it takes real =
dedication to go the extra mile the way that they and other pioneers =
have.

So, to all you pioneers out there who make a difference in my life =
(including Thaddeus Computing), THANKS. :)

Chuck Sutherland
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 17:24:56 -0500
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yo

any tsr driver, fonts, etc?
Try clearing and staeting from scratch...

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Subject:      Re: Best digital line convertor?
Comments: To: William England <wengland@INAME.COM>

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William England <wengland@INAME.COM> wrote

> I use something called a fax/modem mate from radio shack.
> $49.95, uses 2 9volt batteries.  I can get out over
> any pbx system.
> Scott

Could you post some part numbers?  My local Radio Shack claims they have
nothing like this item.

Thanks

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:01:03 -0400
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Regarding advancements in 200LX RAM upgrades...

You can not fault the vendors of RAM upgrades for the availability of larger
and larger capacities over short periods of time.

Some factors to keep in mind:

  - Manufacturers of these RAM chips do not specifically have the 200LX in
    mind when they develop these chips.  So there is some risk in trying to
    adapt them to the 200LX.

  - These guys are spending money on developing new products for the 200LX.
    Therefore, they need to maintain some kind of revenue stream to finance
    these developments.  If they kept on waiting until larger RAM capacities
    became available they would:
        1) never offer a product because they would just be waiting for the
           next best thing to come along
        2) never have the funds needed to properly develop products

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Hi all

I have a number of icons that I am trying to get into App manager..
Unfortunately the manual is sketchy...

Would you please advise how if you know..

ie email.icn is available...how do I link it so it comes up under choices
for inclusion under app manager..

Right now I get the three and a blank as outlined in the manual.

Some Exm progs have an icon choice but not some progs I want.

Thanks

Russell
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 20:29:53 -0500
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If I have a DOS program running under MaxDOS, is there a way to swap back to AppManager or some other HP application?

Currently, if I have GoinPostal open, and an alarm goes off, I'm locked up solid (ctrl-shift-on need to reboot!)

Hopefully, I'm just doing something wrong, or haven't figured out the magic key to press.

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In a message dated 98-08-14 09:34:34 EDT, you write:

<< You can  do what I do and keep all documents in RTF format. Word reads it
without  problem and the RTF-DOC (memo) program works. There is an occasional
format  problem but overall it is pretty good. >>

There are other options.  Keep all documents in WordPerfect 5.1, or Word 5.0
or 5.5 for DOS.  Office will save in any of those.  It will also read them,
and will loose little or no formatting, up to and including tables.  You don't
have to spend any time converting documents -- other than remembering to
choose the correct "Save As" format on the big computer.  All three of those
programs work very well on the LX.

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 18:36:45 -0700
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Subject:      Re: How to get icons up?
Comments: To: rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU

Although there are more elaborate ways, the easiest way for me is the
following.

Move the .icn file to the same directory as the program.  If the program
name is hp.exe, rename the .icn file to hp.icn.

Then when you add it to system manager, the icon will show in you selection.

Good luck

-Tim
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From: Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Date: Friday, August 14, 1998 6:12 PM
Subject: How to get icons up?


>Hi all
>
>I have a number of icons that I am trying to get into App manager..
>Unfortunately the manual is sketchy...
>
>Would you please advise how if you know..
>
>ie email.icn is available...how do I link it so it comes up under choices
>for inclusion under app manager..
>
>Right now I get the three and a blank as outlined in the manual.
>
>Some Exm progs have an icon choice but not some progs I want.
>
>Thanks
>
>Russell
>Net-Tamer V 1.11P - Test Drive
>
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 20:56:32 -0600
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              Arturo Galindo <agalindo@MAIL.GIGA.COM>
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Hi there you all, please forgive my bothering you with something old and =
pass=E9 but.....finally, I got an original version of windows 3.0, =
installed all five disks in a 32 meg PC card, tried to run it but =
nothing happens. Please, anyone can tell me how or what to do?, also; I =
remember reading in this forum that one can run a version of works, =
don't remember which version tough. If someone can point me towards an =
abandonware or maybe has it and would be so kind to send it to me, I'll =
be very obliged.
Thank you all for your time and advise
Arturo

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:07:53 -0500
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              Bryan DK Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
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Anyone that has an HP200  and a digital camera that uses the Fujitsu
chipset (check the web page below if you
aren't sure, I have a Nikon CP900) might be interested in knowing that
there is now a version of the
"CAME" program written by TsuruZoh Tachibanaya especially for the HP200
to control these cameras.
Read all about it on the web site, but the program lets you do just
about everything possible with computer
control of the camera; download pictures to the HP200, control the
camera settings, take pictures, and take
time-lapse.  This is REALLY neat. Start at this URL and follow the CAME
(turtle) program links.
http://www.quiknet.com/~frcn/FramCam.html

-Bryan

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:24:52 -0500
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Subject:      Name Plate

Hi all;

Trivia.....
Anyone one looking for a goodlooking name
plate?   If anyone password protects
their p'top yu need return info on the
outside of the crate or yu'll never see it agin.

Try a lablemaker: REWARD 312-123-3456.
Labels come in many colors.  Its neat, legible,
cheep. Easy to change too. Better than the original.
BTW: How do most of you use them blanks?
Ya gotta get an engraver somwhere to etch, no?

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:42:20 -0700
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Everyone who sent the acecarrd driver "in the blind" - Thank you. I will test
it out on the HP-100 and get the results back to the list. I will add my kudos
that this list is a great repository of knowledge and experience... in that
light:

A few painful lessons learned:

If you insert your Megahertz XJ1144 in upside down, it will go in quite nicely,
and will cause you HP to require a CTRL-LSHIFT-ON to recover, at which point
you won't even get a vote on the initialization of the RAM disk - sigh. I
normally don't screw around with the internal modem as I prefer not having to
adjust my setup and remove my flashdisk to download email, so I have an
external 14.4 modem I usually use. I am in the middle of moving, so I am
packing light and the external modem and requisite adapter didn't make the cut
- though I think in the future it will!

The good news is that with my HUGE (to me <g>) 48MB flashdisk I had backed up
my C drive just two days ago, at least for data. I will have to reload dosshell
from my laptop, and leave it on the Flashdisk. I didn't use to keep a copy on
the flashdisk because of room, but I need to "rethink my paradigm" (there's a
word that has certainly become overused) and keep everything on the A: drive. I
am also going to get a daily backup appointment going - no need to have lost
two days of data, after all.

Thanks again to all who gave me the info I needed.
Brian

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 23:29:19 -0400
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              Jim Gonzalez <gonzalez@LADS.IS.LMCO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Fri, 14 Aug 1998 17:43:20 PDT."

Patrick West wrote:

> William England <wengland@INAME.COM> wrote
>
> > I use something called a fax/modem mate from radio shack.
> > $49.95, uses 2 9volt batteries.  I can get out over
> > any pbx system.
> > Scott
>
> Could you post some part numbers?  My local Radio Shack claims they have
> nothing like this item.

The number is 43-1242.  It is pictured in the upper right corner of
page 41 of the 1998 catalog.

                                -Jim.

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 23:15:25 -0400
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Don E. Weatherly wrote:

DEW> Norton Commander (NC) is the best file manager I've ever used.
DEW>
DEW> I use NC v2.0 and 5.0 on my HP200LX.
DEW>
DEW> NC v2.0 uses much less RAM than v4.0 or 5.0.  It runs easily under
DEW> the HPLX system manager.

I have NC v3.0 installed. Complete, it takes over 500K. I also have XTree
Pro installed in about 160K complete. I'm thinking about installing XTree
Gold, but I'm not sure how small I can pare it down to.

DEW> One of NC v5.0's many great features is that it permits you to view
DEW> the contents of files within compressed .ZIP files.

XTGold _will_ do .zip file manipulations. I take it that NC v4.0 wil NOT?

DEW> I use NC v2.0 and NC v4.0 on my HP100LX since not all NC v5.0 features
DEW> function properly on the 100LX.

What doesn't work from 5.0? How small can a working 5.0 installation be
made?

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 01:11:39 -0700
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On Fri, 14 Aug 1998 20:56:32 -0600, Arturo Galindo <agalindo@MAIL.GIGA.COM=
> wrote:

> Hi there you all, please forgive my bothering you with something old =
and
> pass=E9 but.....finally, I got an original version of windows 3.0,
> installed all five disks in a 32 meg PC card, tried to run it but
> nothing happens.

Did you try to run it outside of system manager?

Change to the windows directory and type win. But before hand make sure
that win.com was installed and is working. This can be checked in
filer, you should get a warning about not enough memory to run program
or some thing to that effect.

Looking forward to your reply.


Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.1.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 12:39:45 +0200
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At 08:54 PM 8/13/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Frans:
>
>First I want to state in public that I have a deep admiration
>for you, your achievements and your opinions, even if I
>cannot possibly agree with your opinions. Yesterday I
>recommended in a discussion your product to a company that is

Ah. You figured out who I am. :-) Thanks.

>Here is the netto of this, as you say:
>
>Mach developed something, and you felt that for him to not
>tell you this ahead of your purchase of a 32MB from Thaddeus
>was unconscionable.

No, I was not referring to Mack. From the discussion in this list, I
understand that Mack has developed the memory upgrade, and Thaddeus is
selling it. Anyway, it doesn't change much. Being a former subscriber of
the Palmtop paper, I got an ad from Thaddeus regarding the 32Mb model and
Software Carousel. Now, before my complete order is delivered, they offer a
64Mb version. Something feels wrong here, and that's why I made some
statements in this list (as a reply on someone else's message).

>I think you owe an apology to Mack, not Thaddeus, who is
>simply a reseller, not the developer of the 64MB machine.

If people got the impression that I was attacking Mack (English is not my
native language so I might have used the wrong words) I owe him an apology
indeed. Please consider this as an apology. I'm somehow in a similar
situation as Mack: I'm developing something, and being basically a
technician, I leave the marketing and selling to some other organisations.
And sometimes these marketroids do something that I feel is unethical.
Sometimes this is a reason for me to have some words with a certain
reseller. By no way I feel attacked personally if customers are unhappy
with certain experiences with one of my resellers.
>Dragging ethics into this is irrelevant. There is no ethical
>issue involved. Both machines 32MB and 64MB are continuing to
>be sold. The price has not changed because of the
>introduction. The warranty is still in force. There is a
>market for both machines. Support continues for both machines.

As I said: there is some "gadget" element in this market. It is like buying
cars. There are two kinds of people: people who see a vehicle as a means to
get from A to B, and some people who love cars. Now, if someone from the
first category buys a car, he doesn't care at all if a week later the
manufacturer releases a new model. However, if a car freak buys a nice
top-of-the-line BMW, he might indeed get upset if a week later a new model
is introduced. For him, a car is more than just a means of transportation.
He has spent a large amount of money to buy the best-of-the-best in his
opinion. And before he even hasn't received all options, a new model is
introduced. He is upset, and some people will consider this as insane.
"Hey, it is just a car. You liked that car, you have it, so why complain?"

I'm in a similar position, like most of the readers of this list. We are
not the kind of people who buy a CASIO organiser, because we need to jot
down some phone numbers. We are not the people who see a computer just as a
tool. We have spend more than avarage to buy something we admire, because
of the technique, and we have an excuse to buy it because it is usefull as
well. Yes, and after a while, you decide for yourself that it is worth to
spend quite some money, because you want to have this "hot" top-of-the-line
model. And then, before your order is delivered completely, a new model is
released... Ok, some of you will say: "Hey, it is just a computer. It
works, and you are able to store your phone numbers. So why complain?". For
me however, the situation is different. I have witnessed the development of
the PC, I have made my business out of developing software (mainly DOS),
and I have a deep sentiment for these good old DOS-days. Business-wise, I
have to move on with Windoze, which has (in my opinion) no technical beauty
at all. But then, there is that wonderful Palmtop machine, which gives me a
good excuse to keep playing around with DOS. Because of my carreer, I have
a lot of knowledge about the inner workings of a DOS environment, and at
least this knowledge isn't going to be a waste of brain-space for the near
future, because of this Palmtop machine. That's why I bought this super
palmtop (after having had a "normal" model for three years) without any
concern about the prices. And that's why I'm a little unhappy that the
order is not yet even completed, and there is that even hotter model. :-(
>If you suffered some damage or loss because of the

>introduction, other than the bruise to the ego for having
>guessed wrong when to buy, then maybe ethics could enter.

See above. No damage, no loss. I could probably also store my appointments
and phone numbers in a simple PDA. I didn't choose a FIAT however, I have
choosen this top-of-the-line BMW, because I'm a freak.
>You say they should have told you. You avoid answering the
>question where to draw the line, because it is not comfortable
>for you to answer it. Do you tell all customers who purchased
>within the last week? The last month? the last 24 months?

This is no to me to judge. The HP200LX industry however should be aware
that they are not selling to people who want to have a tool, but selling to
people who are freaks. If there would have been a half-year period, I could
have lived with it. Maybe some others not. But then the reactions in this
list would have been different.

>I know, and you know, that your product is NOT pre-announced
>until it is ready for sale. Why do you apply a different
>standard to Thaddeus? (I _did_ tell the company's
>representative to ask about the upgrade policy offered for
>_your_ product, which I recommended yesterday!)

See above. I consider my product more as a tool, and not as a gadget.
Nobody buys my product because they want to have it as a gadget. People buy
it because they badly NEED it. Even then: our upgrade policy is that you
can freely upgrade (companies) during two years. Private buyers have a
lifetime upgrade. But then, it is no comparison, because this upgrade
policy is a result of the nature of the product, which becomes virtually
worthless after half a year.

>At most you should be able to ask the vendor to allow an
>exchange. Did you ask them for it?

No. I'm simply disappointed about the way things went. And I *hate* to have
to send my unit back and do without it for some time. I just wished I had
been offered to wait a little longer, and get this 64Mb machine together
with Software Carousel (for which I'm still waiting anyway).

>We instituted a policy in April 1998 that provided purchasers
>of WWW/LX Plus a free upgrade if they purchased in 1998,
>because we felt that was a reasonable way to give customers
>the "warning" you so desire, without having to discuss in
>public out plans ahead of time.

You see? What are the reasons to do so? Let me guess: a) because you felt
it being ethically right to do so, b) because you prefer to have happy
customers and a good name, which may cost a few dollars because of missing
upgrade-income, but will pay itself off in the longer terms.

>Instead, you chose to attack Mack for developing something and
>not telling you. For that I believe you owe an apology to
>Mack.

See above. It wasn't my intention, and I never mentioned Mack. If this was
unconciously suggested, I hereby apology.

>I'll be delighted to continue this with you, if you really
>think there is anything else to say, in private email, as time
>permits, but not on the public venue. It is a waste of

I have answered in public because I wanted to make clear that I didn't
intend to attack Mack.


Frans

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 06:49:33 -0400
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Wow! what a great idea. I also have the HP200 and the CP900, but I am a
little confused on how to connect the two physically. Bryan, have you
connected the two yet, and if so what cabling system did you use.

Thanks,
Peter
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From: Bryan DK Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Friday, August 14, 1998 10:13 PM
Subject: Digital camera control program for HP200


>Anyone that has an HP200  and a digital camera that uses the Fujitsu
>chipset (check the web page below if you
>aren't sure, I have a Nikon CP900) might be interested in knowing that
>there is now a version of the
>"CAME" program written by TsuruZoh Tachibanaya especially for the HP200
>to control these cameras.
>Read all about it on the web site, but the program lets you do just
>about everything possible with computer
>control of the camera; download pictures to the HP200, control the
>camera settings, take pictures, and take
>time-lapse.  This is REALLY neat. Start at this URL and follow the CAME
>(turtle) program links.
>http://www.quiknet.com/~frcn/FramCam.html
>
>-Bryan
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I just hooked the HP serial cable to the CP900. On mine (homemade cable) I
had to
use a null  adapter.  I'm in the process of making a better cable now, my
old one does not fit in the HP well.

Hey! Check out my web page with CP900 shots at...
http://www.globaldialog.com/~biggers

-Bryan


Peter Ashley wrote:

> Wow! what a great idea. I also have the HP200 and the CP900, but I am a
> little confused on how to connect the two physically. Bryan, have you
> connected the two yet, and if so what cabling system did you use.
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
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> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Date: Friday, August 14, 1998 10:13 PM
> Subject: Digital camera control program for HP200
>
> >Anyone that has an HP200  and a digital camera that uses the Fujitsu
> >chipset (check the web page below if you
> >aren't sure, I have a Nikon CP900) might be interested in knowing that
> >there is now a version of the
> >"CAME" program written by TsuruZoh Tachibanaya especially for the HP200
> >to control these cameras.
> >Read all about it on the web site, but the program lets you do just
> >about everything possible with computer
> >control of the camera; download pictures to the HP200, control the
> >camera settings, take pictures, and take
> >time-lapse.  This is REALLY neat. Start at this URL and follow the CAME
> >(turtle) program links.
> >http://www.quiknet.com/~frcn/FramCam.html
> >
> >-Bryan
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 06:21:55 -0700
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Thanks :)

On Fri, 14 Aug 1998, Jim Gonzalez wrote:

> Patrick West wrote:
>
> > William England <wengland@INAME.COM> wrote
> >
> > > I use something called a fax/modem mate from radio shack.
> > > $49.95, uses 2 9volt batteries.  I can get out over
> > > any pbx system.
> > > Scott
> >
> > Could you post some part numbers?  My local Radio Shack claims they have
> > nothing like this item.
>
> The number is 43-1242.  It is pictured in the upper right corner of
> page 41 of the 1998 catalog.
>
>                                 -Jim.
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      passwords

I have used the password feature on Buddy to globally protect my 200 LX
while well aware that it can be circumvented.  Yesterday I started playing
with the LX's DOS password feature thinking I might try "double
protection" and noticed that it conflicted with Buddy in several ways:

When the LX DOS password was set (by going to DOS), the Buddy password no
longer worked.  Also at least one other Buddy feature did not work - when
I pressed a wrong key, the LX beeped - a feature I had eliminated through
Buddy.

Is there a way to get both password features going?

Is the DOS password known to conflict with BUDDY?

Which password feature is more secure?

Jeff

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 06:43:25 -0700
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A list memeber, discussing another subject, made a couple of comments that
gave me pause.

> We are not the people who see a computer just as a
> tool.

> .....could probably also store my appointments and phone numbers in a
> simple PDA..............I have choosen this.....because I'm a freak.

So I was wondering, how many of the list members see themselves in the
above?


I don't see myself this way. I do tend to see computers as a tool. My
desktop is a cyrix 5x86, 32 meg ram, AT Bus, 640x480 with 256 colors, 1.5
gig of HD, 33.6 modem, 4x cd-rom.
My laptop is a 486 dx2/50, 20 meg ram, at bus, 640x480 256 colors, 810 meg
hd.


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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 09:16:57 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Comments: To: malkajef@orthohelp.com

Morning Jeff;

"I have used the password feature on Buddy to
globally protect my 200 LX while well aware
that it can be circumvented."

Yes the global PW can be gotten around but not
by every turkey on the street in a few minutes.
You do have (a lot) of time to get home walk the
dog, etc then call whoever you need to, to negate
the compromised info. This can be enhanced by a
file PW and putting it in a not so obvious place.

...but who to return this ugly little crate to
should it be found by an honest passer-by?  Make
good use of the name plate feature besides name
for global password protects is to put yor return
info on the outside of the crate or you'll never
see it again.

Use a labelmaker to make a label: REWARD 312-123-3456.
Labels come in many colors.  Its neat, legible,
cheep. Easy to change too. Better than the original.

Have a great weekend all,
Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 09:33:23 -0500
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Rant saturday :)
"I don't see myself this way. I do tend to
see computers as a tool. My desktop is a
cyrix 5x86, 32 meg ram, AT Bus, 640x480
with 256 colors, 1.5 gig of HD, 33.6 modem,
4x cd-rom. My laptop is a 486 dx2/50,
20 meg ram, at bus, 640x480 256 colors,
810 meg hd."

My desktop is an IBM 16MB PC with one FD and
a nice green mono screen.  I plan to upgrade
someday to two FD. Yes, its a lot faster and
better than my typewriter.

Most people don't use their LXs to its full
portential. Some, most, professionals can use
128MB RAM and a 220 MB flash but they don't
know it, or how to. How to improve?  Think,
and get into a good user's meeting and see how
others are using it will increase yor usage.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 10:51:05 -0400
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I am getting a 700LX next week and would like some feedback on it
from people who use one on a regular basis.

Have you used it with the matching Nokia phone and how well does it
function in that manner?

Other than the Nokia docking features does it perform in the same manner
as a 2x speed LX200?

Anything I need to be aware of, warts or good points?

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 23:53:14 -0700
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Hey everyone -

Tried the AceCard driver, loading it through Config.sys, with no joy. The
program seems to load up nice and stays resident on the HP-100, but I still
just get a "drive not ready" warning when I try to access via filer. Any ideas
of what I am doing wrong?

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Al:

> Use a labelmaker to make a label: REWARD 312-123-3456.
> Labels come in many colors.  Its neat, legible,
> cheep. Easy to change too. Better than the original.

Good idea Al, but I'll use my own phone number instead
of yours! (8-)

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 11:04:41 -0400
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Am looking to buy an HP95lx.  Anyone looking to sell theirs or
know where I might purchase one?
The screen on mine (some of the horizontal lines) is intermittent.  Has
anyone experienced this?  Is their an
economical fix?
Ted
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In a message dated 8/15/98 7:34:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, hobchi@JUNO.COM
writes:

<< Most people don't use their LXs to its full
 portential. Some, most, professionals can use
 128MB RAM and a 220 MB flash but they don't
 know it, or how to. >>

Al, Excellent point!!   Both with the LX and with their desktop.   Why do
people have to have the biggest and fastest when all they do is
wordprocessing??     I had mine made to do AutoCAD...my "Thing"....my
daughters' machines are not as fast nor do they have as large HDs....they
don't need them!   The "contest" most people compete with should be their
brain...not their computer size!

Cathy

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Subject:      Re: Name Plate

In message  <19980814.212504.11166.0.hobchi@juno.com>, hobchi@JUNO.COM said:

> BTW: How do most of you use them blanks?
> Ya gotta get an engraver somwhere to etch, no?


Yes, I took mine to a kiosk in a mall: you know, the type
that does engraving.  The girl working there had a tough
time making it come out nicely.  She attributed her
difficulty to the softness of the plate.  This was no
doubt true, but I think her lack of experience may have
played a part too.  At any rate, after she finished, I
spent some time flattening it with an arbor press.  The
engraving also needed a little cleaning up--I accomplished
this with the end of a push pin.

Ted

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In message  <Pine.GSO.4.02A.9808150632530.9303-100000@user2.teleport.com>, pccare@TELEPORT.COM said:

> > We are not the people who see a computer just as a
> > tool.
>
> > .....could probably also store my appointments and phone numbers in a
> > simple PDA..............I have choosen this.....because I'm a freak.
>
> So I was wondering, how many of the list members see themselves in the
> above?

As with many either/or hypotheses, there are flaws with the notion
that folks buy a palmtop as tool or gadget.  For me there are parts
of both elements at work.  I have wanted a computer for travel for
several years, but have never felt a notebook was suitable.  I've
used small laptops from work, but have always found I had to carry
an extra bag for them.  Furthermore, the smallest notebooks are
quite expensive.

The 200LX allowed me to take my computing on the road, in my small
briefcase.  Compared to notebooks, even the double speed 32M unit
is cheap.  As an added benefit, I no longer need my paper phone
and appointment book.  So in many regards I see my 200LX as a tool.

At the same time I must admit I take a great deal of pleasure from
showing others what I can do with my little computer.  I feel some
satisfaction in the widely varied and powerful capabilities I carry
in my pocket!  Also, I spend quite a bit of time tweaking all the
settings, trying out new software, and just generally fiddling.
True, some of this playing is to maximize the power of my tool, but
in all honesty many of my little "projects" take more of my time
to set up than they could possibly save me in use.

So for me, the HP200LX is both tool and gadget.

Ted

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Can someone tell me the reason why Works will not work without the Pipe symbol
(|) after the command line in setting up the desktop icon?  I also have to use
an upside ? alter in the fields...what do they do?

TIA

Cathy

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 09:33:21 -0700
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On Sat, 15 Aug 1998, Cathy Schlim wrote:

> Can someone tell me the reason why Works will not work without the
> Pipe symbol (|) after the command line in setting up the desktop icon?
> I also have to use an upside ? alter in the fields...what do they do?

The | symbol gives Works all the free memory to use.  It probably needs as
much as it can get to work.  You can do something like |256 to tell it to
use 256K, but if it gets less than it needs, it won't run.

The upside-down question mark just prevents the "Press any key to return
to system manager" (or whatever the message says) message from displaying
when you exit Works and go back into the Application Manager.

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 10:26:45 -0700
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On Fri, 14 Aug 1998 23:53:14 -0700, Brian McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@PALMTOP.C=
OM> wrote:

> Hey everyone -
>
> Tried the AceCard driver, loading it through Config.sys, with no joy. =
The
> program seems to load up nice and stays resident on the HP-100, but I =
still
> just get a "drive not ready" warning when I try to access via filer. =
Any ideas
> of what I am doing wrong?

Hi Brian,

Confirming you added the following line to your config.sys:

device=3Dc:\ace\acecard3.com /sdp

Note: The above driver is newer and supports the speed upgrade.

            or

device=3Dc:\ace\acecard.com /sdp


Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.1.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 13:51:26 EDT
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>Other than the Nokia docking features does it perform in the same manner
>as a 2x speed LX200?

I have had an Omnigo 700 LX some time ago. AFAIK it IS inside a HP200LX with
datacard, no 2x speed. I gave it back for a 100LX because it doesn't fit in my
pockets.

Andreas

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 19:53:35 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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If You whant to get the mail in Lotus Notes to Your hp200lx then You
can create a "agent" that forwards Your mail to the email adress that
You usaly download to Your hp via WWW/LX, GP or whatever.
(if You do that, that is)

Go to the mail box in Lotus notes and select Create agent.
Now You just have to make some choises and tell Lotus what adress all
incoming mail should be moved or copied to.

Dont forget to add @internet DIRECTLY after the adres that You will
forward You Lotus mail to. So If You like to forward to a.b@c.de.
Then You write a.b@c.de@internet.

  /tomas                *** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 ***

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                    40  Sweden       : HP200lx, Pinball & DOOM
                    50  LET Micro$oft =3D 666

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 19:53:29 +0200
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I just have had a three week vacation, driving around in Sweden.
I just whanted to share som experience that I had with my hp200lx and
being mobile with it.

For several of reasons I whanted to be reached via email on a daily
basis but I was going to drive around a lot where there were no phones.

So for this trip I had:
A dc23 pcmcia modem for the Ericsson GH388 and a Megahertz 14.4k pcmcia
modem. And a dialup shell acount.

Sadly enough the dc23 and WWW/LX did not work together. Therefore I
used the cellular with my acount via builtin DataComm. I could do a
fast check if something urgent had arived in my mailbox using Pine on
my Unix acount. ( and delete those Spam messages ). Yes dc23 works with
DataComm. Infact it works with everything except WWW/LX??!!

Whenever I visited a friend with a phonejack I swaped to my Megahertz
and retrived my mail and my News using WWW/LX. But I realised that I
had to swap the batteries everytime I did this. I had to have a fresh
pair that only was for Megahertz use and one pair for ordinary and dc23 =
use.
The dc23 is so nice to the batteries! I dont notice any difference in =
battery
drain when I have it in or when I use it. Very nice.
But with the megahertz You got a "battery low" after a while with batterie=
s
that was not brand new.
This was a hazle. swaping pcmcia and swaping the batteries. The next
time I will travell with my dc23 and a pocket modem instead.

One thing that I also missed was the ability to make backups.
I have a smart modular combo card with 6meg on it that I also will
bring next time so that I can backup the hp every now and then.
The card also have a modem but only 2400 and draws almost no batteries
at all.

Well, its hard to find a easy solution. A low power pcmcia modem for
both cellular and ordinary phonjack with some ram would help.

And one more thing. The GSM system give You a connection of 9600 bps.
So dont try to download anything. I ran across a SH888 and whanted to
try the IrDA connection on it. Using X-modem on my unix acount I began
to download the dj346en.exe driver, but had to abort after several of
minutes when I realized that I only had a couple of percent of the total =
file.

  /tomas                *** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 ***

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                    40  Sweden       : HP200lx, Pinball & DOOM
                    50  LET Micro$oft =3D 666

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:11:52 -0400
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The person(?) Mr. Meshar wrote:

> (Besides, we have a person(?) here who gets
> yawny and bored when anything more than simple English is
> written - so let's not strain his brains! ;-) ...)

<YYYYYyyyaaaaaaaaawwwwwWWWWNNNNNNN>

Oh, boy.  Tired...

Just strained the old brain muscle.  Plum worn out from breaking codeZ and
tapping out crackZ.  Y'all take a look at the *GREAT LX TIPS/HACKS* in the
link below.  All written in simple English, of course...  :>

http://www.comports.com/hplx/DAcodez.html

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 13:53:50 -0500
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Hello List,

Having used a pocket modem exclusively, I know next to nothing
about the PCMCIA modems.  Which one works best with and without
the AC Charger?  I've heard about the Simple Tech 33.6, but am
unsure of it's current draw.  Any suggestions?


TIA,

Claud

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 12:15:00 -0700
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On Sat, 15 Aug 1998, Theodore Heise wrote:

> > BTW: How do most of you use them blanks?
> > Ya gotta get an engraver somwhere to etch, no?
> Yes, I took mine to a kiosk in a mall: you know, the type
> that does engraving.  The girl working there had a tough
The girl in the Lloyd Center mall, In Portand it is called "Things
Remembered"  had a fair amount of trouble but it came out looking quite
nice. It helped that she is my Daughter and really worked at making sure
it came out nice for me.



Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:07:17 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Saturday;

Is there anyone out there on the list that
can modify and enhance the sys aps engine?

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:16:59 -0500
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Hi C;

Believe that the upside down ques mark
gets you back to sys aps without a pause.
else it will stop and you have to hit
the enter key before it continues.......

Thinking about it, the pipe possibly permits
yor entry into pgm w/o pause. Try it and see.

And here is 'nuther input: "The | symbol gives
Works all the free memory to use.  It probably
needs as much as it can get to work. You can do
something like |256 to tell it to use 256K, but
if it gets less than it needs, it won't run.

The upside-down question mark just prevents the
"Press any key to return to system manager" (or
whatever the message says) message from displaying
when you exit Works and go back into the
Application Manager.

There it is, in a nutshell............
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 12:24:23 -0700
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On Sat, 15 Aug 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> Having used a pocket modem exclusively, I know next to nothing
> about the PCMCIA modems.  Which one works best with and without
> the AC Charger?  I've heard about the Simple Tech 33.6, but am
> unsure of it's current draw.  Any suggestions?

Go for the Simple Tech.  Mine draws 125ma in active mode and about 20ma
when idle.  Add to that the convenient SimpleJack connector and the low
price, and the five year warranty, and it's a good choice.  :)

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 15:20:49 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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In-Reply-To:  Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM> "Re: Name Plate" (Aug 15,
              12:15pm)
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Another approach to this nameplate thing I saw on David Shier's 200LX when I
had lunch with him a few weeks ago:

He used one of those Brother PTouch labelers (available at any office store)
and did a nice black on white label with his name, address and phone number.
The label is a very durable, shiny film with the white and black on separate
layers below a protective covering. Very neat indeed.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 12:32:54 -0700
Reply-To:     "Tim S." <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
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From:         "Tim S." <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
Subject:      Re: Name Plate

I just took mine to the local trophy shop.  It cost $5 and came out perfect.

-Tim

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Date: Saturday, August 15, 1998 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Name Plate


>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998, Theodore Heise wrote:
>
>> > BTW: How do most of you use them blanks?
>> > Ya gotta get an engraver somwhere to etch, no?
>> Yes, I took mine to a kiosk in a mall: you know, the type
>> that does engraving.  The girl working there had a tough
>The girl in the Lloyd Center mall, In Portand it is called "Things
>Remembered"  had a fair amount of trouble but it came out looking quite
>nice. It helped that she is my Daughter and really worked at making sure
>it came out nice for me.
>
>
>
>Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
>PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
>Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 12:33:58 -0700
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On Sat, 15 Aug 1998, Frans Veldman wrote:

> >First I want to state in public that I have a deep admiration
> >for you, your achievements and your opinions, even if I
> >cannot possibly agree with your opinions. Yesterday I
> >recommended in a discussion your product to a company that is
>
> Ah. You figured out who I am. :-) Thanks.

Okay, well, Avi may have figured out who you are, but I'm sure there are
plenty of us who are still wondering... so who are you?  :)

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 19:42:58 +0000
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              Mikhail Epelbaum <mepelbaum@ATTCANADA.NET>
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>
> > We are not the people who see a computer just as a
> > tool.
>
> > .....could probably also store my appointments and phone numbers in a
> > simple PDA..............I have choosen this.....because I'm a freak.
>
> So I was wondering, how many of the list members see themselves in the
> above?

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I have seen this comment, but disregarded it as an immature and
uninformed one. A man has the right to call himself "freak". He said
it first.

As far as my 200LX being a toy, I wish I had more toys like that. It
generates at least $50 (likely more) in extra productivity every
business day, either by allowing me to do more, or by allowing to do
the usual load, but quicker and with less effort.

I have two computers, and both are HP 200 lX. I gave my pentium box
away.
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:29:08 -0700
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              David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET>
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The contest at my site, http://www.hplx.net , has thus far failed to
generate many entries.  Let's just say, there aren't even enough entries
to cover the number of prizes being offered.   So please: visit the site,
enter the contest, visit the sponsors.  The odds are extremely good at
this point!  :)

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 23:48:41 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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I have a modem connected to my desktop computer. And to it I have a
cable to do backups. So to minimize the cable swapping I installed
ComLink (from SUPER) on my desktop and ran it with PalRun. Now I can
use the modem without having to detach cables. Just connect to the
serial cable and start Comlink.

I read about someone using Patchcom. I tried that one too but it didnt =
work as
I whanted.
ComLink is not ment to be used this way, but it does.

  /tomas                *** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 ***

                    64K RAM SYSTEM  38911 BASIC BYTES FREE

                    10  Tomas Moberg : Tel:+046(0)18/255 977
                    20  Egilsgatan 3A: Tomas.Moberg@abc.se
                    30  75334 Uppsala: Commodore64 & Geos64
                    40  Sweden       : HP200lx, Pinball & DOOM
                    50  LET Micro$oft =3D 666

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1998 16:52:05 -0500
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Hi David (and list),
   First, thanks for running the contest! Second, the reason that I am not
submitting an
entry this time, is that I don't KNOW any other HPLX users, and I certainly
don't know five! others
to write about.  I've never even seen another person with an HP200! I only
know of other
users through this list, which I don't always follow completely, and I don't
know any of them well enough
to write about.  I think that a lot of other people might be in the same boat
that I am; it just isn't possible for us to submit
a entry.  I've given some though as to whether I could assemble an entry by
going back through the
list and picking out some active users, but it would just exceed the
"available time" for me.

-Bryan


David Sargeant wrote:

> The contest at my site, http://www.hplx.net , has thus far failed to
> generate many entries.  Let's just say, there aren't even enough entries
> to cover the number of prizes being offered.   So please: visit the site,
> enter the contest, visit the sponsors.  The odds are extremely good at
> this point!  :)
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 19:14:30 -0400
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At 02:29 PM 8/15/98 -0700, you wrote:
>The contest at my site, http://www.hplx.net , has thus far failed to
>generate many entries.  Let's just say, there aren't even enough entries
>to cover the number of prizes being offered.   So please: visit the site,
>enter the contest, visit the sponsors.  The odds are extremely good at
>this point!  :)

The prizes are great!=20

But, a list of who you believe to be the top five 200LX "power users" and
an explanation of why you believe each one to be so,=A0 how have they
contributed to the 200LX community,=A0how have they helped you personally,
and what would palmtopping be like without them? Is the problem. (:-(

Just my 2cents.

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Let me suggest another solution which works for me.  I make up a paper label,
2 7/8" x 5 3/4"  That leaves a boarder 1/4" on the ends, and 1/8" on the
sides.  Plenty of room for my name, office & home phones, addresses, and e-
mail addresses.  I then connect it to the top cover with clear Contract
(brand) paper from the grocery store.  (I think they have it at craft stores,
too.)

It hardly seems that this would be a strong enough connection, but it works!
I've been using it for over a year, and have only changed it when information
needed updating.  After 6 months, it looks like new.  You can easily remove it
if you don't like it, or change it if you like.

If you orient it correctly, you will have a nice name plate for meetings.  No
one will forget your name.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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> A list memeber, discussing another subject, made a couple of comments =
that
> gave me pause.
>
> > We are not the people who see a computer just as a
> > tool.
>
> > .....could probably also store my appointments and phone numbers in a
> > simple PDA..............I have choosen this.....because I'm a freak.
>
> So I was wondering, how many of the list members see themselves in the
> above?

I don't think I am a freak but others way choose to differ;-) I use my
palmtop (DS 32MB) on a daily basis. My colleagues expect to see my
palmtop at all times and one recently commented that I was the only
person he knew that fully utilised such a machine but I do much more than
store appts and phone numbers in my palmtop!

GaryS

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Subject:      Deleting Events?

I entered an event in the calendar application thinking I was telling it
the event would recur for two days.  Instead, I somehow entered that the
event would occur every other day for infinity.  I now have a whole bunch
of events on my calendar that I can't get rid of.  I've looked over the
manual and have played with every obvious (to me) option on the machine.
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to delete events?  How?

If all else fails, I do have a backup that is only short about 30+
appointments that I can use.  I'd just prefer to delete the events.

Thanks.

Larry Zimmerman

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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1998 12:51:10 +1000
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> ... I've never even seen another person with an HP200!

HP200LX
I agree it's pretty rare! I've met two other people with hp200lx's -
and they are the only ones I've seen. Speaking from Melbourne, Australia,
I've seen very few handhelds at all...

PSION
Two people with Psions (the first handheld I ever saw, which actually
inspired me to buy a handheld in the first place. The fact that I
ended up getting a hp200lx is telling...but that's a tale for another time.).

WINCE
        - seen one person with a WinCE device (Casio Cassiopea).
NEWTON
        - seen two people with a Newton.
PILOT
        - and two (I think) with those USR Pilots...incidentally, the
                name was apparently choosen after Isaac Asimov's
                USR (United States Robotics) in his robot stories
                - you know, Susan Calvin and all that...


> I only know of other users through this list ...
Thus, the niche of the list. <g>

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Larry Zimmerman wrote:
> I entered an event in the calendar application thinking I was telling it
> the event would recur for two days.  Instead, I somehow entered that the
> event would occur every other day for infinity.  I now have a whole bunch
> of events on my calendar that I can't get rid of.  I've looked over the
> manual and have played with every obvious (to me) option on the machine.
> Can anyone tell me if it is possible to delete events?  How?

Real easy, though for some reason I confused myself in a simliar way
recently.

Press <APPT>, <F9>, press the up arrow until you reach the event (the
least obvious part) at the top above any other appointments,  press
<DEL>, choose "All Occurrences", "OK" and that should fix you up.

--
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> > > We are not the people who see a computer just as a tool.
> >
> > > .....could probably also store my appointments and phone numbers in a
> > > simple PDA..............I have choosen this.....because I'm a freak.
> >
> > So I was wondering, how many of the list members see themselves in the
> > above?

Ah! an invitation to bare one's soul! Please, bear with me...


It is said that computer scientists are the last bastion of Newtonian
determinism: the thesis that the world is perfectly predictable. It
makes perfect sense, if only you know the rules, and how things
started out. Knowing the rules puts you on top of things.

Unfortunately, the world doesn't seem to work like this, as suggested
by Quantum mechanims, Jurisprudence, Economics and Social Interaction
(in order of ascending importance). Though, oddly enough, everyone
searches for rules to make sense of the world - but most of them
recognise that these are just a educated inference, and seem quite happy
with this imcompleteness.

But not so the computer scientist! He (or she) demands certainty:
the ideal universe that Science promised but never delivered. A
universe where the same actions always produce the same results;
where you have full responsibility and full control; omniscience
and omnipotence. When things go wrong, it was your fault; there is no
divine intervention to assist or frustrate you.


How do I personally see the hp200lx? As the determinist's ultimate toy:
a deterministic universe in your pocket.


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I have an idea and want to invite all interesting parties to try :

Try connect 200LX with standard serial 9pin cable
Then connect the other end with a converter of (com port to PS/2)
Then connect the normal keyboard with the PS/2.

Will it work?

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 22:54:33 +0800
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Agree that everybody has the right to speak freely. We should not blame each
other. It is a free world.

For me, I feel upset too because two months ago I paid $500 for 32MB upgrade
and double speed. Now I found that 64MB is possible.

As consumers, we have to the right to tell these vendors our feelings. Yes,
we may suspect there will be 128MB in the coming next few months? Will it?
No one knows.

That is reasonable, healthy, and nothing wrong.

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Date: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: Memory upgrades


> > I am a vendor in this market too. Your formula is a sure way
> > to kill the vendors in this market. It is a loser for
> > everyone.
>
><yawn>
>
>So if a customer complains, he's a murderer?
>
>  I say, we hang 'em!   Yee-Haa!
>
>Yep. makes sense to me.
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Is anyone using a dvorak layout on a hplx?

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1998 13:57:08 +0800
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Any problem with the speed and power consumption?

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Date: Thursday, August 13, 1998 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: Flash cards


>On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Jaime A. Viehweg wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any experience with the Flash memory cards that are
>> in the current "Palmtop Catalog"?  Are they fast?  Is the price
>> reasonable?
>
>Are you speaking of the Simple Tech high-capacity cards?  If so, they're
>great.  I've been using a 160MB card for a few months now, and it's just
>fantastic.  The only trouble is that with a card of this capacity, it
>takes the cardBios client in the 200LX 2-3 seconds to recognize the card
>when you insert it.
>
>It's great power and speedwise.  And capacity-wise, too!  :)
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1998 14:03:06 +0800
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Do anybody/engineer/technician knows that whether we can replace the 200LX
built-in MSDOS 5.0 command.com with a MSDOS 6.22 ?

I am dreaming to have SYS.COM the C: and copy the COMMAND.COM over to the C
root directory to do that but worrying whether this will damage my 200LX?

Larry

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Subject: Re: WP 5.1, Special config. settings?


>Tim et al,
>
>>Still can't get WP5.1 to work in DOS on my 200LX (It locks up on the start
>>screen, w/ "*Please Wait*" in the lower left hand corner
>
>It only appears to lock up - mine does the same. I discovered that by
>pressing the down arrow key briefly but firmly WP will move on and open to
a
>blank screen apart from the status info on the bottom right of the screen.
>
>Good luck. Crombie Redd
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I bought mine not exactly as a toy, but not because I really _needed_ it. =
It
was being sold for $99 (200lx, 1meg) and I remembered that it was a cool
thing from a BYTE Mag article I read on the 95lx. It has turned into a =
very
useful and almost indespensible tool. --And toy.

Darren.

"Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!"

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> Larry Zimmerman wrote:
> > I entered an event in the calendar application thinking I was telling =
it
> > the event would recur for two days.  Instead, I somehow entered that =
the
> > event would occur every other day for infinity.  I now have a whole =
bunc
> > of events on my calendar that I can't get rid of.  I've looked over =
the
> > manual and have played with every obvious (to me) option on the =
machine.
> > Can anyone tell me if it is possible to delete events?  How?
>
> Real easy, though for some reason I confused myself in a simliar way
> recently.
>
> Press <APPT>, <F9>, press the up arrow until you reach the event (the
> least obvious part) at the top above any other appointments,  press
> <DEL>, choose "All Occurrences", "OK" and that should fix you up.
>
He may be talking about a repeating event like a vacation or something, =
not
an appointment. Those get deleted by going to one of the days that the =
event
falls on and going to the beginning of the day. It is not obvious how to
highlight that thing because it is floating on the top of the day with no
time next to it. those you can get to by pressing TAB. Then you can =
delete
it.

Darren.




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David - can you give me the model number of the Simple Tech, what it's speed
is, where to buy it and how much it costs?  I've been using a Megahertz
#CC4144 for years now.  It works but requires the charger to be plugged in
and has a special phone cord.

Thanks and aloha - bob

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On Sat, 15 Aug 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> Having used a pocket modem exclusively, I know next to nothing
> about the PCMCIA modems.  Which one works best with and without
> the AC Charger?  I've heard about the Simple Tech 33.6, but am
> unsure of it's current draw.  Any suggestions?

Go for the Simple Tech.  Mine draws 125ma in active mode and about 20ma
when idle.  Add to that the convenient SimpleJack connector and the low
price, and the five year warranty, and it's a good choice.  :)
http://www.aloha.net/~bgraham

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I have no trouble doing a Print-Screen under the DOS Jeteye drivers. But =
I
do have a problem printing a file.

I want to dump the text to com1 or lpt1, but when I type:

copy omega.txt lpt1 or
copy omega.txt com1 or
type omega.txt >com1 or
type omega.txt >lpt1,

i get a fail on int24 error.

Any ideers ?

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->He used one of those Brother PTouch labelers (available at any office
->store) and did a nice black on white label with his name, address and
->phone number. The label is a very durable, shiny film with the white
->and black on separate layers below a protective covering. Very neat
->indeed.

Did all that fit in the small nameplate slot or did it cover a larger
area?

Jeff

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I have an old AutoSketch 3 version (little brother of AutoCAD) which fits =
nicely onto my 32meg DS HP200LX.

Since I have no mouse I need to know which keys of the HP200LX correspond =
with cursor movements.

Any input is welcome. If there is no feedback I will check with Autodesk =
newsgroups or forums.


Hans Peter Staber
Salzburg  Austria

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Hello, everybody !
Would somebody give me a hint how to solve the following
problem:
Downloading the HPLX Digest with POST/LX I frequently get the
following message:
"Problem receiving data. Connection closed by remote host"

The HPLX Digest is mostly more than 50K. I have not set a
limit for incoming messages. POST/LX downloads alright but when
this message occurs, it is barred from deleting it from the
server. That means, next time I log in, I have to download it
again and most of the times the messages comes up another time,
blocking me effectively from downloading the rest of my
(mostly short) messages.
Where ist the problem here ?

Thanks in advance
Winfried
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Can anyone give me a processing speed comparison between the HP95lx,
HP100lx and HP200lx?

Also, can I expect the increased speed to show up in increased screen
redraw rates when I use it for a moving map display (x,y coordinate
update from the GPS is 1 per second)

Thanks for the help.
Ted Treibick
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1998 07:35:43 -0500
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Gary,

What else do you dooooo?

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1998 07:44:39 -0500
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Whoever.......

What do you put in your 160 MB Flashcards???????????

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1998 07:52:51 -0500
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Subject:      Re: WP 5.1, Special config. settings?

Try it and see.......and do let us know :)
You can put 4DOS in there but never heeard
of someone wanting to switch ver but I see
a merit in doing so.

Reread your msg, you want to switch msdos
and the io file too?  Why?  they take up too
much space.  If you want the 6.2 commands,
just switch the on command.com file. It won't
KILL the machine, but may lock it up. of
course you know you gotta back up first huh?

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1998 10:33:27 -0500
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A few folks have asked if the Web-based system that creates macros to
update the currency converter could use ISO codes instead of country or
currency names (e.g. USD). Anders Larsson found a nice list of ISO
currency codes and the system now offers them as an alternate label. The
codes were manually transcribed, so if you see errors, please email me.

http://www.palmtop.net/money.html

Tip for those with bookmarks: If you prefer ISO codes, look for the part
of the URL that reads "label=country" or "label=currency" and change it
to "label=ISO" so you don't have to use the pull-down menus again.

Thanks to Anders for finding the code list, and the Bank of Montreal for
continuing to let us use their information.

-Peter

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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1998 11:05:07 -0500
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              kilgore@PYLON.PILLAR.COM
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> He may be talking about a repeating event like a vacation or something, not
> an appointment.

We are talking about the same thing, you can get to the events from the
appointment screen by pressing the up arrow.  Though the <TAB> key is
easier, thanks for the tip.

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Are you interested in selling the HP200lx as a stand alone (without any
accessories)?  If so, what's your price?
Ted
treibick@tiac.net

Mehta, Pragnesh (Pragnesh) wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> I have the following 200LX system for sale:
>
> 1. Mint 200LX-4MEG (about 5 months old).
> 2. 5MEG HP Memory card.
> 3. HP AC Adopter.
> 4. Wetsuit carrying case.
> 5. Trial version of IntelliSync for the "200LX", including the serial cable.
> 6. Micro-Ref quick reference for LOT-123.
> 7. WordPerfect 5.1 guide.
> 8. DOS 5.0 User Guide.
> 9. Nameplate.
> 10. User manuals + Quick-Ref guide.
>
> Price=$350 + shipping
>
> Send me email, if interested..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pragnesh Mehta
> mehtap@lucent.com
>
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I heartily agree with Frans.  I'm not trying to choose sides or polarize
the group of HPLX users (or developers).  I think that this discussion has
run it's course and I move for putting it on the back burner, or making it
a private discussion.  Let's get on with things like....."how to remove
chocolate from your HPLX keyboard".....or something more useful!
Regards,
Jim J.
Carmel, IN

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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1998 10:00:57 -0700
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On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, al chin wrote:

> Whoever.......
> What do you put in your 160 MB Flashcards???????????

I've got several large databases, the contents of both of my old 40MB
cards (which were almost always nearly full), some additional software
that I couldn't fit on there before, and backups of my 32MB C: drive.

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              Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
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> What else do you dooooo?

Al,

Well you asked so here goes!

Built-in applications that I use:

 Appointment book - appointments but not the todos

 Phone database - extensive phone database (~700 entries) that has been
modified with additional fields to suit my needs. Secondary databases
for Compuserve access phone numbers.

 Database - The general purpose and notetaker databases are my most
extensively used builtin applications. I have databases for:

books I hear about and want to buy; durable goods in our house, when
bought, cost, warrantee, manufacturer etc; images stored on the
palmtop - use Mappot to display the images in the database;
restaurants; music I hear on the radio and want to get a copy of;
files on the HPHAND forum on CSi; acronyms; software installed on home
and work machines, registration and license information; my notes
taken during meetings; extensive todo database with a lot of fields for
sorting/organising flexibility; completed todo database - so the other
one does not get too large; connectivity database for
dialup,ftp,http etc sites that I use; optical detectors and their
characteristics; launch vehicles, their capabilities, brief
success/fail history and cost; publication database with abstracts of
significant papers in my field; solver eqns; programming code
snippets; work related notes; home related notes; quotations; Messier
objects; photographic films; printer control codes (pcl, ibmpro,epson);
hp related hints and tips extracted from Compuserve fora; several computer
related databases (batch file hints/tips, 8088 instructions, solver
tips & help).

HPcalc - solver equations for lasers/optics/lidar analysis.

Lotus123 - some of the spreadsheets on my palmtop include: travel
expense reports, salary/vacation/sick leave tracking, contract
monitoring, plotting data, bicycle gear ratios, great circle distance
calculation, retirement account tracking, investment & stock price
tracking, sunrise time calculator, cost estimation for proposals, cpu
performance comparison, laser/lidar/optics related calculations.

World time - added personally relevant towns and cities as well as
lidar related sites.

System macros - used to tie the above together and automate in various =
ways

Non builtin applications

Accis - Compuserve access
WWW/LX suite - email (6 email accounts across 3 different providers),
newsgroups, ftp, telnet, some web browsing
Optical ray tracing software - analysis of lidar optical designs
Electrical circuit design and analysis
Magellan - Dos file manager
Manuscript - equation capable word processor
Derive - symbolic maths program - derivation of eqns for
solver/programming/analysis etc.
Timeline - project management
Fortran compiler
Fortran numerical recipes code
Quick Basic Professional
Quick C
Certain compiled programs I have developed related to
optics/lasers/lidar
Automap - route planning have both USA and Europe databases
Vertical Reader

Utilities - Buddy, software carousel, bigtime, clipvue, irprint, dbio,
paledit, ppal, pctime, memo to rtf converter, DBview, lxpic, ABC,
adbmoon, ipex, kermit, assorted fonts, assorted file conversion
utilities, lxb, pcremote, pctime, zip/unzip

Plus other apps that I do not use much and a few games (need some
relaxation:-)).

I carry the HP with a PN60 printer, external and pcmcia modems,
cables, serial - parallel printer adapter, flashcards and spare
batteries,ribbons etc in a 12x 7.5x 3.5 in3 leather case for a
complete portable office. The main problem is that the case is too
small to hold sheets of paper for the printer! (I also have a Newton
keyboard that has its own case although I don't take it everywhere.)

My desktop machines are reserved for cpu intensive tasks.

Finally, to comment on another post as a physicist by training I do not
consider myself a determinist;-)

GaryS

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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1998 16:02:10 -0400
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At 07:19 PM 8/15/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Let me suggest another solution which works for me.  I make up a paper label,
>2 7/8" x 5 3/4"  That leaves a boarder 1/4" on the ends, and 1/8" on the
>sides.  Plenty of room for my name, office & home phones, addresses, and e-
>mail addresses.  I then connect it to the top cover with clear Contract
>(brand) paper from the grocery store.  (I think they have it at craft stores,
>too.)
I use a variation on this. Find a store that carries the clear book-bindery
repair tape and put this over a printed label. This stuff is nice and
durable. Fixes your abused books, too. - srl

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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1998 13:04:30 -0700
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On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 07:26:09 -0400, Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE=
.COM> wrote:

> I have an old AutoSketch 3 version (little brother of AutoCAD) which =
fits
> nicely onto my 32meg DS HP200LX.
>
> Since I have no mouse I need to know which keys of the HP200LX correspon=
d
> with cursor movements.
>
> Any input is welcome.

Hi Hans,

Have you tried the HP Mouse program thats available on the SUPER Site?

HTH


Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.1.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:07:29 +0200
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At 02:51 PM 8/14/98 +0000, you wrote:
>>From Hal Goldstein:
>
>>Frans:
>>
>>> I expect a 128Mb version soon, and I've heard rumours that 256Mb is
>>> possible too. And since these guys are not telling you honestly what's
>>> going on, you'd better be a little patient unless you are willing to
pay an
>>> upgrade fee every month.
>>
>
>Hi Frans. I think a 128M version requires a major software effort. At this
>time we have no such plans.  Hardware-wise it is possible.

Ok, thanks for clearing this up.

>As a consumer, I understand your frustration.  However, I don't think what
>you are saying is necessarily the case. Introducing upgrades -- especially
>hardware where the costs are great and inventory expensive -- has been a
>tricky busines in this industry as long as I can remember.  At what date do
>you tell all your customers, "don't buy this product, but wait for the next,"

This is not what I suggested. There is a market for a 32Mb model for sure.
It is a matter of offering a *choice* to the customer, to buy either the
32Mb model or the 64Mb model. I don't see any reasons to assume that the
64Mb version is less profitable to you, so it shouldn't matter whatever the
customer chooses, except that you will miss a double upgrade fee in case he
would be willing to upgrade twice.

>or "if you wait two weeks, the price will drop".  If you give customers a one
>month warning, the guy who buys the product 31 days in advance is naturally
>quite upset.

I think it is fair to tell the customer about a new version as soon as you
know it. Then the customer has the choice. People who bought a 32Mb version
before you were aware of the possibility of creating a 64Mb model then have
nothing to complain about.

><<Apart from this: Together with the new 32Mb palmtop I also ordered the
>"Super Software Carousel", which was advertised as "available now!". I
>STILL DON'T HAVE IT! I got instead a piece of paper telling me that it was
>going to be shipped mid-late July, which apparently didn't happen.
>That I order SC together with a 32Mb machine isn't a total coincidence: I
>had some use for the combination of these two products.>>
>
>We finally started shipping yesterday.  I can only say I am sorry. It wasn't
>due to lack of attention. It was due to another common failing in this
>industry, poor time estimation.
>
>Both Software Carousel and Super Software Carousel took about 4 times as
>much time as we had planned. SC was supposed to be a simple minor upgrade of
>an existing product. It proved not to be simple. (For example, just when we
>thought we were done, out of nowhere, the "June 13, 1998" bug appeared.
>People with SC couldn't reboot on June 13!).
>
>However, that was our problem, not yours, and I apologize.

I understand these problems very well, being a professional in the software
and hardware industry as well. However, I just wished to be informed about
this (the price justifies the cost of a stamp) rather than anxiously
waiting for the mail man every day to see if SC has arrived, for weeks,
wondering if something got lost or so, and finally upon initiative from my
side get an answer that it has been delayed even further. Apology accepted
however.


><<Netto effect: I ordered something which still isn't complete, and can
still
>not be used as I intended. In the mean time, there is a new model
>available, and I have not been offered a reasonable way of upgrading.>>
>
>Just so you know the 64 meg upgrade is not trivial.  It takes 30-45
minutes of
>labor.  Also, I had no long term plan or knowledge of these
>upgrades.  I didn't learn of the 64 meg upgrade until mid-June.  We
>make a profit from people who do one upgrade, then the next, but it is not
>nearly as profitable as you might think.  These are our best customers,
>where much of our revenue comes, and we try to balance customer sensibility
>and staying in business. I certainly did not devise a devious plan to come
>up with upgrades every few months.

It wouldn't have been a devious plan, it is a common marketing approach.
However, I made these comments because I feel this is not a "necessity"
market (where this approach is common) but a "gadget" market, where you are
selling to freaks, where many want to have the "top-model" and nothing less.

><<Sorry, but I feel that Thaddeus owes me an apology.>>
>
>Yes, we are sorry about the lateness of SSC and SC.  We are sorry if your
>order came in after July 1 and we didn't notify you.  Anyone, who is in that
>boat can take another $100 off the 32 to 64 meg upgrade cost, if you include
>this email.  From the consumer side, I would guess that is still not
>completely satisfactory, however, all things considered, hopefully it is an
>acceptable compromise.

Ok, thanks. Well, my order came in a week before that date I'm afraid
(although I received it later). :-(

I think I owe you an apology as well, for not having contacted you about
this in the first place. However, it was not my intention to start a debate
right here, it started as a slightly frustrated reply on someone else's
mail, which generated some more replies from various people, both pro and
con, etc.

Thanks for your reply.
Frans

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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1998 15:28:51 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Memory upgrades

To all who see this greetings;

To remove chocolate from the LX palmtop is very
easy.  All you do is immerse yor thing under hot
water for 22 or 23 minutes then let it sit in the
sun for an afternoon to dry. Soaking yor thing in
an amphora of gasoline is an excellent alternative.

Are there any LXers in S.E.Asia that would like
me to handcarry a LX or other accessory?  Speak.

I will be in the area about January 1999, if I
don't get held up by Y2K...

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Frans:

> >First I want to state in public that I have a deep admiration
> >for you, your achievements and your opinions, even if I
> >cannot possibly agree with your opinions. Yesterday I
> >recommended in a discussion your product to a company that is
>
> Ah. You figured out who I am. :-) Thanks.

I knew who you were from the beginning of our contacts, even
before this thread... That made no difference. I was told by
someone here that my reply to you here showed lack of respect
for you, and I wanted to make a public statement to the
opposite.

As I said in my previous messge, I won't participate in this
thread any more. I said my piece, time for me to keep quiet.

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 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1998 20:34:37 -0400
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Does anyone know whether the double speed upgrade affects using the
Accton PC Card network adapter to make an ethernet connection?

Everything that I've read about the double speed upgrade indicates that
communications will still work properly after the upgrade, but nothing
specifically mentioned ethernet connections.

Thanks for any help,
Mike Hendricks

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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1998 19:59:37 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> Does anyone know whether the double speed upgrade affects using the
> Accton PC Card network adapter to make an ethernet connection?

I've used the Accton ethernet card with my double-speed palmtop.  I
haven't used it extensively yet, but it did work the few times I've
used it.

-Chris

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On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, Mike Hendricks wrote:

> Does anyone know whether the double speed upgrade affects using the
> Accton PC Card network adapter to make an ethernet connection?
> Everything that I've read about the double speed upgrade indicates that
> communications will still work properly after the upgrade, but nothing
> specifically mentioned ethernet connections.

The Accton card is not affected by the speed upgrade.  It works well on a
single or double-speed machine.

The Silicom card will not work at all on a double-speed machine, and there
has been no success in trying to develop a driver for it, and Silicom has
not been helpful in those efforts.

My advice: get the Accton card.  Search for EN2216-1 at
www.computeresp.com and you should be able to get a great price.

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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1998 20:32:29 -0700
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Hans Peter Staber wrote:
>
> I have an old AutoSketch 3 version (little brother of AutoCAD) which fits nicely onto my 32meg DS HP200LX.
>
> Since I have no mouse I need to know which keys of the HP200LX correspond with cursor movements.
>
> Any input is welcome. If there is no feedback I will check with Autodesk newsgroups or forums.
>
> Hans Peter Staber
> Salzburg  Austria

Is there a reason you don't just run Acad on your palmtop? There is a HP
CGA video driver available that I can send you if that's the problem,
and EM87 gets around the coprocessor problem. I have R10 installed on my
6meg HP200LX and use the cursor keys for crosshair movement.  I tried
HPmouse and couldn't get it to function in Acadr10.

David

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Whoa guys!     I have tried R2.1 and couldn't get it to run on the HP.....Mor
e   info please!!!

I am an ACAD teacher and would love the have even a rudimentary program on the
palmtop.

Cathy

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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1998 00:35:56 -0500
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Well, I decided to do some comparing myself.  I exclusively used Diet before
this test, and now?  Hint..  It's not WWPack, 3.05b just ain't right....

                                  Comp    Comp.     Comp    Decomp
Compressor |    File  |  Size  |  Size  | Ratio |   Time  |  Time  |
           |          |        |        |       |         |        |
Diet       |  PE.EXE  |  92798 |  50689 | 45.4% |  11.97s |  1.53s |
PKLite     |          |        |  50701 | 45.4% |  21.92s |  0.75s |
WWPack     |          |        |  46084 | 50.3% | 135.01s | BROKE! |
LZEXE      |          |        |  50544 | 45.5% |  19.50s |  0.77s |
TingProg   |          |        |  51184 | 44.8% |  52.20s |  0.94s |
           |          |        |        |       |         |        |
Diet       |  PGP.EXE | 237631 | 105811 | 55.5% |  33.34s |  3.48s |
PKLite     |          |        | 105660 | 55.6% |  61.08s |  1.78s |
WWPack     |          |        |  94952 | 60.04 | 473.74s |  3.07s |
LZEXE      |          |        | 106323 | 55.26 |  49.38s |  1.94s |
TinyProg   |          |        | 107056 | 54.9% | 103.74s |  2.29s |
           |          |        |        |       |         |        |
Diet       | LESS.EXE |  95356 |  52812 | 44.6% |  12.75s |  1.65s |
PKLite     |          |        |  53283 | 44.2% |  25.43s |  0.95s |
WWPack     |          |        |  48817 | 48.8% | 133.97s | BROKE! |
LZEXE      |          |        |  53381 | 44.0% |  19.94s |  0.99s |
TingProg   |          |        |  53968 | 43.4% |  45.44s |  0.66s |

Versions used:  Diet 1.45f
                PKLite 1.01 Shareware
                WWPack 3.05b
                LZEXE 0.91
                TinyProg 3.9

If Decomp Time is listed as BROKE!, this means, for *some* reason, the WWPack
compressed file was *NOT EXECUTABLE*, and typically required SHIFT+CTRL+ON!

Compression time timed by stopwatch  and averaged, unless timer.bat works.
Compresion time timed by simple Timer.BAT batch file, time, %1 %2 %3, time,
IE:  Timer diet pe.exe (enter, enter, enter immediately)

All times with 200LX, Doublespeed 8M machine on AC (no Lite sleep).

---

Looking at the above data, I think I'm gonna start using PKLite!  I tried it
once before and wasn't impressed, it would seem that the compression time is
double, but the ratio is very close, and the execution time is half that of
Diet.  I've unDieted my BIN directory, originally 1335315 bytes, and PKLite'd
it and it's now 1338156 bytes, it grew 2843 bytes..  One cool thing is, PKLite
will automatically unpack EXEPack (which makes the file larger when repacked,
and EXEPack bites.. :)  Uncompressing the *.COM files, and recompressing with
PKLite made my BIN directory grow by 16098 bytes!  PKLite couldn't compress
Buddy.COM for some reason, so that was a big difference.  After doing Diet on
Buddy.COM, my Bin directory was overall smaller than I started, and the
startup times were shorter.  PKLite warns if a program has overlays, and
typically does *not* work if so.  However, it appears that *some* overlays are
compressable, such as LXBatch compiled programs have an overlay and they
compress well and execute normally.  (Matter of fact, LXBatch PKLite's the
program at compile-time if it's available!  Neat!)

WWPack messes up the files, two of the three above!  Perhaps the Beta version
I was using was the problem.  Has anyone else had this happen?  Both Less and
PE locked 'er up when trying to run them after being WWPacked.  (Of course,
WWPack gave no errors..)  PGP worked just fine.  And WWPack *claims* to be
able to do Overlays..  Uh, well, it will but just like the rest, the files
no longer work.. :)  I found UNP(ack) on Simtel.net that helped me
test/pack/unpack some stuff, good program!

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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:54:25 -0500
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I just bought a Timex Data Link watch and wondered if there are any
tools, shareware, tips, etc on getting the info from my 200LX to it
without having to reenter it in the Timex software.

The main issue would be extracting 1 day's appointments and formatting
it for the Timex.

I didn't find any mention of Timex on the S.U.P.E.R. site, so any help
would be welcome.

Mike Goggin
Round Rock, TX

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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1998 15:59:58 +10
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Why don't you try it yourself?
If you try, do it in winter,
because that will be a nice and expensive heater.
regards
Alain

> I have an idea and want to invite all interesting parties to try :
>
> Try connect 200LX with standard serial 9pin cable
> Then connect the other end with a converter of (com port to PS/2)
> Then connect the normal keyboard with the PS/2.
>
> Will it work?
>
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:32:00 PDT
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Subject:      hp ac adapters

after seeing the seed of ac charging, I looked in the hp 100 book it said
9.6v-14.4 v and max 750ma, the 200 book said same voltage and min 750ma.
for the ac adapters ( the old hp95 will take almost any voltage and
polarity,it seems)
I tried some old 12 adapters that had an oc voltage of 15-16v and labeled
100-200ma
they seem to work fine. is there any harm in useing these adapters??
would not think that the hp would draw more than 50-100ma normaly(unless
useing
modems or other cards) or the batt. would die very fast.
thanks
scott
ps someone mentioned that msdos is the only imbedded dos, I have an old
286laptop, that uses drdos in rom for it.

pss, everytime i turn on my lx200 for the first time of the day, I get
the daily reminder sked to pop up, my hp100 didn't is there a way to turn
this option off?

psss, will wwwlx get on to an aol isp? tried aol 1.6 for the hp but it
will not use aol net
just sprint or tynet, anyone get other dos aol to work on the palmtop.


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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1998 15:56:48 +10
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hi Cathy
I thought you were using the version 2.6 and 10?
Where did you found the 2.1?
could you send me a copy?
regards
Alain


> Whoa guys!     I have tried R2.1 and couldn't get it to run on the HP.....Mor
> e   info please!!!
>
> I am an ACAD teacher and would love the have even a rudimentary program on the
> palmtop.
>
> Cathy
>
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1998 01:22:52 -0500
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> pss, everytime i turn on my lx200 for the first time of the day, I get
> the daily reminder sked to pop up, my hp100 didn't is there a way to turn
> this option off?

Try <APPT>, <MENU>, <O>, <G>.

Also check out GREET.ZIP on www.palmtop.net.  It allows you to change
the time that the greeting pops up.  I used to get sick of it poping up
the first time I turned my machine on after midnight even though I was
still on the previous day.  So I set it to 4am and usually that is quite
safe for me.



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> I just bought a Timex Data Link watch and wondered if there are any
> tools, shareware, tips, etc on getting the info from my 200LX to it
> without having to reenter it in the Timex software.
>
> The main issue would be extracting 1 day's appointments and formatting
> it for the Timex.
>
> I didn't find any mention of Timex on the S.U.P.E.R. site, so any help
> would be welcome.
>
> Mike Goggin
> Round Rock, TX
>
The first thing to do is check that timex software and see if it will =
import
comma-delimited info. If so, it's likely that you can get it into the =
watch
in a couple steps.

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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1998 09:31:22 +0100
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I'm surprised you had such a problem with WWPACK, I use it for GP and
it works great.  I've compressed a number of things using 3.04 and
3.05b without a problem.


On 08-17 06:35am, you wrote:

> Well, I decided to do some comparing myself.  I exclusively used Diet befo
> this test, and now?  Hint..  It's not WWPack, 3.05b just ain't right....

Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.20beta) REGISTERED

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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1998 06:20:25 -0500
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On Mon, Wed, 12 Aug 1998 22:47:06 +0800, Little Fish
<yuml@NETVIGATOR.COM> wrote:

>I have an idea and want to invite all interesting parties to try :
>
>Try connect 200LX with standard serial 9pin cable
>Then connect the other end with a converter of (com port to PS/2)
>Then connect the normal keyboard with the PS/2.
>
>Will it work?

Why would you do this? Desktop keyboards 1) aren't designed to use serial
ports 2) probably have different pin-outs than the Newt kb 3) require
more power (think about the LED's for caps lock, etc).

Doing this would be asking for trouble...

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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1998 12:27:07 +0100
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              stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM
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Sorry for posting to the list as Ian Horsfield, I'm really
Steven Lawson.  I'm on a business trip with Ian and I temporarily
have his 700LX reading my mailboxes along with his.  I forgot
to turn off "prepend name" before I sent the message, though the
email address is correct.

BTW - this docked Nokia phone setup is really cool.  Too bad the US
doesn't have GSM coverage everywhere!  Sure beats plugging my 100LX
into the phone line, or having to deal with the acoustic coupler.


Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.20beta) REGISTERED

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Info was presented here that stated one could find $10 fax modem cards and a
pcmcia card for the desk top I followed that contact info and did not connect.
can any one help with latest info? Tx Roy

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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1998 06:56:11 -0400
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              Wayne Schmidt <wayne@SMOLENSK.COM>
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Thec Accton will not; but the one from Shier Software Systems
does.
                                                --wayne -

On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, Mike Hendricks wrote:

> Does anyone know whether the double speed upgrade affects using the
> Accton PC Card network adapter to make an ethernet connection?
>
> Everything that I've read about the double speed upgrade indicates that
> communications will still work properly after the upgrade, but nothing
> specifically mentioned ethernet connections.
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Mike Hendricks
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On Mon, 17 Aug 1998, Wayne Schmidt wrote:

> Thec Accton will not; but the one from Shier Software Systems
> does.

I'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing here, but just so
nobody gets confused: the Accton EN2216-1 and EN2216-2 cards will work
fine in a single or double-speed 200LX.

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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1998 21:42:57 +500
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              rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU
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Hi all

With the recent talk on currency conversion I thought some of you may be
interested in a daily email of current rates.

I use www.xe.net/currency and therefore have up to date rates on a daily
basis.

In times of rapid currency exchange I find this invaluable.

Russell
Net-Tamer V 1.11P - Test Drive

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43-1242 is the RS part number.

> Addressed to: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
>               William England <wengland@INAME.COM>
>
> William England <wengland@INAME.COM> wrote
>
> > I use something called a fax/modem mate from radio shack.
> > $49.95, uses 2 9volt batteries.  I can get out over
> > any pbx system.
> > Scott
>
> Could you post some part numbers?  My local Radio Shack claims they =
have
> nothing like this item.
>
> Thanks
>
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1998 07:56:02 -0700
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Subject:      Re: HP 200LX and Rex device...
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     I believe that the REX was created because the 320LX has various
covers that come off when you carry it in your back pocket. Also, the 320LX is
larger. Let's just make an add-on so users can still carry their appointments
with them. Yea, that'll work...

I use my 320LX to connect with Windows NT and copy stuff to a flash disk for
200lx and laptop.

David Peterson

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Subject: Re: HP 200LX and Rex device...
Author:  david-at-hpLX.net (david@HPLX.net) at HP-CORVALLIS,mimegw01
Date:    8/13/98 8:39 PM


On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Steve Meisner wrote:

> There is currently no REX/TrueSync synchronization solution for the HP
> 200LX, and there are no plans to develop a TrueSync solution for REX on the
> 200LX's proprietary operating environment.

ROFL.  Let me get this straight.  They have a solution... for Windows CE
2.0... but don't want to develop for a "proprietary operating
environment."  That's good for a few laughs... before we MARCH TO THEIR
HEADQUARTERS WITH PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES!

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Reply-To:     Tim Shephard <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
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I have been trying to make some filters in Post/lx without much luck.

For example, I put in the line HPLX-L=3DHP Mailing List under Filters
in post.cfg.

HP Mailing List is a folder.  I want in comming mail to go
directly to this folder, but I keep getting filter errors.  I even
switched it around HP Mailing List=3DHPLX-L and it still doesn't work.

Any ideas?

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments)
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1998 15:09:56 -0400
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Mon, 17 Aug 1998 15:04:10 -0500 (EST)

11h39m50s ago ...
On Mon, 17 Aug 1998, Roy Stroud wrote:

> Info was presented here that stated one could find $10 fax modem cards =
and a
> pcmcia card for the desk top I followed that contact info and did not =
connect.
> can any one help with latest info? Tx Roy

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1998 07:19:37 +0900
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              Robert Kawaratani <bobk@GOL.COM>
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At 0:51 PM +1000 8/16/98, Brendan Macmillan wrote:
> > ... I've never even seen another person with an HP200!
>
> HP200LX
> I agree it's pretty rare! I've met two other people with hp200lx's -
> and they are the only ones I've seen. Speaking from Melbourne, Australia,
> I've seen very few handhelds at all...
>
> PSION
> Two people with Psions (the first handheld I ever saw, which actually
> inspired me to buy a handheld in the first place. The fact that I
> ended up getting a hp200lx is telling...but that's a tale for another time.).
>
> WINCE
>         - seen one person with a WinCE device (Casio Cassiopea).
> NEWTON
>         - seen two people with a Newton.
> PILOT
>         - and two (I think) with those USR Pilots...incidentally, the
>                 name was apparently choosen after Isaac Asimov's
>                 USR (United States Robotics) in his robot stories
>                 - you know, Susan Calvin and all that...
>
>
> > I only know of other users through this list ...
> Thus, the niche of the list. <g>
>

Gee,

I see people using HP200lx's on the Tokyo subways every week. Of course, I
see people using Zaruses every day (grin).  Being based in Tokyo I don't see
most of the U.S. magazines but is there any coverage in magazines other than
the HPPTP? At least two magazines have monthly columns covering the HP200lx
and others have regular coverage of a machine that just celebrated it's
fourth birthday!

Anyway, I encourage folks to enter David's contest. I'd hate to win one of
the prizes by default for my entry which really doesn't meet David's desire
for humor.

Cheers,

Bob

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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1998 16:53:57 -0700
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              Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM>
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Anyone on the list print to a HP Laserjet 4 from their palmtop?  I need =
to setup Initialization Strings but don't have a list of the three =
didget control codes.  Anyone have a list they can send me or an HP =
resource I can lookup on the net?  TIA.

Don.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:00:52 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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In-Reply-To:  <3.0.5.32.19980807103815.00c9d100@comports.com> from "hplx" at
              Aug 7, 98 10:38:15 am
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I just tried PKlite last night:


TCC.EXE         (Turbo C++ commandline compiler)
        465k compressed by only 50k
VIM.EXE         (Vi IMproved programmer's editor, version 3)
        235k compressed to 123k

The interesting thing is that a compressed program may actually load
faster, because there is less disk accessing. Not applicable to the
hp200lx's RAM disk; but I tried this on a 386 laptop, and the
load time for VIM was identical with and without compression - 2.9 secs.
TCC was also indistinguishable.


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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1998 18:35:03 -0700
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Folks,

I have this Dvorak keyboard TSR from PC Magazine.  I don't know how it
modify it for use on the hplx.  As it is if I use debug on my hp200lx I
get a workable dvorak.com program.

However it also re assigns some of the extra rearrangged HPLX keys.
The ones over the numbers and the extra period and comma next to the space
bar and so forth.

So does anyone know what could be changed so these keys would be left
alone?

==================================
N DVORAK.COM
A 100
JMP 0168                        ;Jump to INITIALIZE
PUSHF                           ;**BEGIN replace int 15h
CMP AH, 4F                      ;called by Int 9 to translate scan codes
JZ 0112                         ;if function 4Fh, jump TRANSLATE
POPF                            ;restore flags
JMP 010D                        ;jump ORIGINAL handler
POP BX                          ;DO_INT15
STC
JMP 0000:0000                   ;ORIGINAL int 15h
POPF                            ;TRANSLATE
PUSH BX
PUSH DS
MOV BX, 0040
MOV DS, BX                      ;DS to BIOS data area
TEST BYTE PTR 0017,10         ;Scroll Lock On?
POP DS
JNZ 010B                        ;IF ON USE QWERTY KEYBOARD. Jump DO_INT15
MOV AH,AL                       ;scan code to AH
AND AH, 80                      ;Save possible high bit, AH = 80h or 0
AND AL, 7F                      ;zero high bit
CMP AL, 0C                      ;scan code in range?
JB  0138                        ;  if not, jump BREAK
CMP AL, 35
JA 0138                         ;Jump if high range to BREAK
SUB AL, 0C                      ;set up AL as pointer
MOV BX, 013E                    ;BX to address of KEY_LIST scan code table
CS:                             ;           key values 12 - 53 (decimal)
XLAT                            ;translate AL to new scan code. Key pressed.
OR AL, AH                       ;if BREAK, OR with 80h.  Key released.
MOV AH, 4F                      ;restore function 4Fh
JMP 010B                        ;Jump DO_INT15.  KEY_LIST follows:
DB       1A 1B 0E 0F 28 33 34 19
DB 15 21 22 2E 13 26 35 0D 1C 1D
DB 1E 18 12 16 17 20 23 14 31 1F
DB 0C 29 2A 2B 27 10 24 25 2D 30
DB 32 11 2F 2C
MOV AX, 3515                    ;INITIALIZE. Above portion is TSR
INT 21
MOV 010E, BX                  ;save original int 15h vectors
MOV 0110, ES
MOV AX, 2515                    ;code to set interrupt
MOV DX, 0102                    ;replacement int 15h address
INT 21
MOV AX, 002C                  ;environment block
MOV ES, AX
MOV AH, 49                      ;free our copy of environment
INT 21
MOV DX, 0192                    ;load DX with SIGN_ON
MOV AH, 09                      ;display it
INT 21
MOV DX, 0168                    ;DX to INITIALIZE, area to place in memory
INT 27                          ;go memory resident. SIGN_ON follows;
DB  0D,0A, 'DVORAK loaded.',0D,0A,24

R CX
A5
W
Q





==================================

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1998 18:58:34 -0500
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The only one piece that does that is the phone number list.  Thanks for
the response anyway.


>The first thing to do is check that Timex software and see if it will
import
>comma-delimited info. If so, it's likely that you can get it into the
watch
>in a couple steps.
>
>Darren.


>> I just bought a Timex Data Link watch and wondered if there are any
>> tools, shareware, tips, etc on getting the info from my 200LX to it
>> without having to reenter it in the Timex software.
>>
>> The main issue would be extracting 1 day's appointments and
formatting
>> it for the Timex.
>>
>> I didn't find any mention of Timex on the S.U.P.E.R. site, so any
help
>> would be welcome.
>>
>> Mike Goggin
>> Round Rock, TX

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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1998 22:16:44 -0500
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              Mike Goggin <mikeg@WANS.NET>
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My aunt cannot carry her 95LX with her since she had back surgery and
my wife won't take hers with her due to the weight of it along with
everything else in her purse.  While the REX won't let them record
info, it would be a big help to take phone numbers and appointments
with them.  Neither of them is a computer nut either, but I would be
glad to set them up if and when any syncing ability is developed.

-----Original Message-----
From:   David M. Peterson
SMTP:DAVID_M_PETERSON@HP-CORVALLIS-OM1.OM.HP.COM
Sent:   Monday, August 17, 1998 9:56 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: HP 200LX and Rex device...

     I believe that the REX was created because the 320LX has various
covers that come off when you carry it in your back pocket. Also, the
320LX is
larger. Let's just make an add-on so users can still carry their
appointments
with them. Yea, that'll work...

I use my 320LX to connect with Windows NT and copy stuff to a flash
disk for
200lx and laptop.

David Peterson

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Subject: Re: HP 200LX and Rex device...
Author:  david-at-hpLX.net (david@HPLX.net) at HP-CORVALLIS,mimegw01
Date:    8/13/98 8:39 PM


On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Steve Meisner wrote:

> There is currently no REX/TrueSync synchronization solution for the
HP
> 200LX, and there are no plans to develop a TrueSync solution for REX
on the
> 200LX's proprietary operating environment.

ROFL.  Let me get this straight.  They have a solution... for Windows
CE
2.0... but don't want to develop for a "proprietary operating
environment."  That's good for a few laughs... before we MARCH TO THEIR
HEADQUARTERS WITH PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES!

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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1998 10:56:05 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Compressed HTML files
Comments: To: Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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You could also zap Z-Ray using DEBUG to change the default viewer to HV.
Then you could view a ZIP file of HTML's with Z-Ray, and press Enter to view
a member.  You wouldn't have to worry about deleting the unzipped HTML file,
nor would you have to write a batch file.

>So far I have not seen a solution where you can view compressed HTML
>files on the 200LX. But you could solve the problem in an easy way.
>Use PNS200 together with Z-RAY and then create a batch file
>which will start when you in Filer highlight a zip file with your HTML
>files and when you press Enter you will be able to see which HTML files are
>in your zip file. Then press Space (Z-Ray will then uncompress the file
>you have choosed). Then the next line in your batch file opens up the
>uncompressed HTML file using HV. After you close HV, the batch file deletes
>the HTML file. Some extra keystokes are required, but you will be able to
>view your files without manually delete uncompressed files after you have
>view them. I have not tried this but should work and maybe there are even
>better way so do it.
>
>Regards,
>
>Jorgen

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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1998 13:44:46 +0200
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              Frans Veldman <veldman@KNOWARE.NL>
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At 07:42 PM 8/15/98 +0000, you wrote:
>>
>> > We are not the people who see a computer just as a
>> > tool.
>>
>> > .....could probably also store my appointments and phone numbers in a
>> > simple PDA..............I have choosen this.....because I'm a freak.
>>
>> So I was wondering, how many of the list members see themselves in the
>> above?
>I have seen this comment, but disregarded it as an immature and
>uninformed one.

Why should this be immature and uninformed? Especially the latter wonders
me? My statement simply is that the HP200LX *for me* is not purely a tool
but has some additional value as well. There is nothing here which could be
seen as "uninformed". No one is better informed about *my* use and feelings
about the HP than me. Also, I fail to see how admitting the "toy-value" the
HP has for me could be "immature". Is it immature to enjoy using a tool and
admitting it? Is it immature to use an expensive tool if a cheaper one
could serve the purpose as well? I'm especially surprised to see statements
like these from a psychiatrist.

>A man has the right to call himself "freak". He said it first.

It seems that the word "freak" means something else than I had in mind. I
just want to make clear that the HP200LX is for sure a tool for me, but it
has additional value. It is handy to be able to store appointments and
phone numbers and carry around some databases, and have a calculator at
hand, but there are many (cheaper) machines which allow one to do so. Many
of us (mailing list subscribers) have the double speed option installed,
but how much gain of time does it actually provide? Are the few cumulative
seconds we daily gain really economically seen worth the trouble? And then,
reading this mailing list even costs us more time. You're probably better
off by unsubscribing this mailing list and not installing the double speed
upgrade (if time is the only consideration). Yet we are still reading this
list and using double speed at the same time. There is more at work than
just an economical consideration. If the HP was only a tool, I wouldn't
subscribe to a devoted mailing list, just like I don't subscribe to a
mailing list for all the other tools I have. The HP200LX is more than just
a tool, it is a toy or gadget as well.

>As far as my 200LX being a toy, I wish I had more toys like that. It

I fully agree with this.

Frans

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At 01:35 PM 8/16/98 +1000, you wrote:
>It is said that computer scientists are the last bastion of Newtonian
>determinism: the thesis that the world is perfectly predictable. It
>makes perfect sense, if only you know the rules, and how things
>started out. Knowing the rules puts you on top of things.

>But not so the computer scientist! He (or she) demands certainty:
>the ideal universe that Science promised but never delivered. A
>universe where the same actions always produce the same results;
>where you have full responsibility and full control; omniscience
>and omnipotence. When things go wrong, it was your fault; there is no
>divine intervention to assist or frustrate you.
>
>How do I personally see the hp200lx? As the determinist's ultimate toy:
>a deterministic universe in your pocket.

Ha! I like this one. It makes some sense.

However, with today's complexity the deterministic nature of the computer
is fading away rapidly. If things were deterministic, every process should
be repeatable, with the same outcome everytime. However, I see more and
more cases where the same action doesn't result in the same outcome.
Especially the process of crashing is hardly repeatable. Sometimes the HP
just crashes when using maxdos, booting the thing and repeating the same
action results in a flawless operation. Interrupts are poluting the outcome
here. Sometimes, a database gets corrupted. It is hardly repeatable. There
are some elements at work (interrupts, battery voltage, temperature, maybe
even radiation) which affect the operation. The more complex the machine,
the less deterministic the whole thing becomes. Especially with Windoze
machines things seem to happen as an "act of God". Sometimes the thing
refuses to detect a specific device at boot time. Boot the thing again, and
it recognizes the device. Same process, different outcome. The universe
becomes more complex, and the deterministic nature fades away...

Frans.

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>> Is anyone using a dvorak layout on a hplx?

I'd like to.

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>> Do anybody/engineer/technician knows that whether we can replace the =
200LX
>> built-in MSDOS 5.0 command.com with a MSDOS 6.22 ?

MSDOS 5 is etched into the ROM.

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Tomas:

> Sadly enough the dc23 and WWW/LX did not work together. Therefore I
> used the cellular with my acount via builtin DataComm. I could do a
> fast check if something urgent had arived in my mailbox using Pine on
> my Unix acount. ( and delete those Spam messages ). Yes dc23 works with
> DataComm. Infact it works with everything except WWW/LX??!!

What's a DC23?

  Avi M. D&A

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Cathy:

> Can someone tell me the reason why Works will not work without the Pipe =
symbol
> (|) after the command line in setting up the desktop icon?  I also have =
to use
> an upside ? alter in the fields...what do they do?

The pipe symbol gives the application _all_ the available
memory to run in. Without the pipe symbol you get whatever
memory you specified in the Setup Applet, usually 96K,
sometimes more.

  Avi M. D&A

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You can use CTRL-Del to delete the message on the server.

  Avi M. D&A

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David:

> The contest at my site, http://www.hplx.net , has thus far failed to
> generate many entries.  Let's just say, there aren't even enough
entries
> to cover the number of prizes being offered.   So please: visit the
site,
> enter the contest, visit the sponsors.  The odds are extremely good at
> this point!  :)

Perhaps you can tell us two items that will spur more
interest:

1. What is the contest about,

2. What are the prizes. (I know what some of the prizes are,
of course :) ...)

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1998 07:29:28 -0400
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>I have this Dvorak keyboard TSR from PC Magazine.  I don't know how it
>..
>However it also re assigns some of the extra rearrangged HPLX keys.

It may be a larg'ish job. The program looks at the scancodes (not the
ASCII codes) returned by the keyboard processor and translates all 0ch
<=3D scancode <=3D 35h, which apparently fits on a PC keyboard. As far as=
 I
can see, it leaves the function keys, the number keys and the '-' alone
and translates the '=3D' and 'A'-'/' keys which is what you apparently
want on a PC keyboard.

One would have to make a list of all the scancodes on the HP and find
out which ones to change. The job also becomes somewhat larger as one
may have to translate some of the FN and shift key scancodes on the HP -
something the program is not prepared for. These values also depends on
the country your HP is made for.

Maybe one could use key200.com to change the problem-keys back?
Or probably easier, use it to make a dvorak keyboard.

However, changing to a Dvorak keyboard would make ones life hell every
time one met a QWERTY keyboard.

Jorgen

  =

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> From:    Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>

> With the recent talk on currency conversion I thought some of you may be
> interested in a daily email of current rates.
>
> I use www.xe.net/currency and therefore have up to date rates on a daily
> basis.

For folks who need frequent updates, this is a sensible way to get the
information. Yves Leurquin created a free macro/1-2-3 spreadsheet system
for updating the currency converter using email updates.
   http://palmtop.net/cgi-bin/sup-srch.pl?search_phrase=currency

-Peter

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On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:

> Maybe one could use key200.com to change the problem-keys back?
> Or probably easier, use it to make a dvorak keyboard.

I'll dig my manual out and look at key200.com
>
> However, changing to a Dvorak keyboard would make ones life hell every
> time one met a QWERTY keyboard.

Indeed, that is the reason for wanting to use it on the HPLX as well.
Dvorak is easy to install on my Desktop and Notebook.


Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1998 07:57:12 -0500
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I konkur.............
Right on.................
Power to the freaks and geeks...

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:38:39 +0800
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Ever since I learn computer from XT, I have numerous used tiny beloved
programmes and games. As I amateur/non-professional programmer, I can
programming any utility I want using Basic, C, Pascal, dBase, etc.

Some of the beatiful applications are unreplaceable by any other current
PDA, for example:

  The art of negotiator (You can still buy it from some vendor now) helps me
a lot in business

  The idea generator -  a wonderful tool

  The business simulator (game) - a university executive trainer that I have
played over 10 years and still love to play.

  Lotus symphony - All the tools I need with graphical charts and WYSIWYG.
You can use it to do spreadsheeet, word processor with speller, database
management, com port transmission, outliner, file converter, agenda, and I
can put the CGM graphic files anywhere I want on the screen. It supports
many printer type including HP laser. Remember that Symphony also has a
powerful Lotus macro for me to programming. I am now programming my own
business simulator like business decision making tool. This is the best
software I ever have. (Now, you can forget your Ms Word 5 or Ms
Windows/Excel/Word/etc)

Actually, there are many more that I cannot list out here one by one.

You see, this is basically a need for me, not only a toy, but more than I
need a pentium PC.

There is only one regret that my backup of the timeline software has been
corrupted and I am looking for a project management tool now.

Larry

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:20:42 +0800
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Let us tell the Rex vendor or the IntelliSync that they are very
short-sighted.

In fact, there are still numerous DOS users around the world.

If they are not willing to support it, they should at least tell us (or the
public) in what format (technically) should be able to communicate with the
Rex through some programming languages such as C, C++, Basic, Assembler,
etc.

We have so many programmers and engineers here that we probably will have
some shareware or freeware released very quickly.

Larry

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:14:55 +0800
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Beware that TCC.EXE should have overlays which after compressed will damage
the TCC

-----Original Message-----
From: Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 1998 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: Tinyprog, Diet, PKZIP, et al


>I just tried PKlite last night:
>
>
>TCC.EXE         (Turbo C++ commandline compiler)
>        465k compressed by only 50k
>VIM.EXE         (Vi IMproved programmer's editor, version 3)
>        235k compressed to 123k
>
>The interesting thing is that a compressed program may actually load
>faster, because there is less disk accessing. Not applicable to the
>hp200lx's RAM disk; but I tried this on a 386 laptop, and the
>load time for VIM was identical with and without compression - 2.9 secs.
>TCC was also indistinguishable.
>
>
>--
>Brendan.Macmillan@fcit.monash.edu.au  http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
>Voice + 61 03  9905 5194              law thesis: Ecommerce impersonation
> Form no covetous desire, so that the demon of greediness may not deceive
>thee, and the treasure of the world may not be tasteless to thee -
Zoroaster
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Walter R Francis wrote:

 > WWPack, 3.05b...
 > WWPack messes up the files, two of the three above!  Perhaps the Beta
version
...

Oh, that version is a beta, and known to be buggy. Use 3.04.  It works
flawlessly on my LX and the decomp time is much faster.

 > WWPack *claims* to be
 > able to do Overlays..

I got it working on a few programs with overlays.  Like Word 5.5 for dos.
With others, it doesn't work.

Thanks for the table.  Pklite looks good as far as time goes.  I'll try to
do a comparison with wwpack and pklite on mine.

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Hi.
Thanks for a very interesting and thorough investigation!

I have a monkey wrench to throw in for you:
Did you set the "-g" flag when compressing with DIET?  This is the "Great
decompression routine" flag.  According to the manual, it adds an extra
100 bytes to the size of the compressed program, but it can result in
greater decompression speeds.  Your decompression times with DIET seem
(subjectively) pretty long to me (also a 2X speed machine).  I always
compress with the "-g" flag set.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Using pklite v. 1.15 (7/30/92) and wwpack v. 3.04a, I compressed PE.EXE v 2.1

PE.EXE uncompressed loaded in 1.05 seconds, size of 97,860 bytes.

Compressed with pklite, loaded in 1.35 s, size of 54,412 bytes.

Compressed with wwpack, loaded in 2.02 s, size of 49,272 bytes.

So pklite is faster, but wwpack compresses best.

This test was performed on a 6MB double speed, using a trial average.

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Just as a note, PE.EXE is compressed by diet by default, and is 54,385
bytes, and loads in 2.38 s.

Why I got different sizes and times for pe.exe than Walter Francis, I don't
know, except it appears we are using different versions of PE.EXE, and
different versions of pklite.

I don't know which version of diet was used to compress PE.EXE originally.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:06:19 -0500
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Could you send details about the cable when you've finished it?
 My wife is looking into the digital cameras for use with her
teaching.

TIA,

Claud

On Fri, 14 Aug 1998, Bryan DK Biggers wrote:

> I just hooked the HP serial cable to the CP900. On mine (homemade =
cable) I
> had to
> use a null  adapter.  I'm in the process of making a better cable now, =
my
> old one does not fit in the HP well.
>
> Hey! Check out my web page with CP900 shots at...
> http://www.globaldialog.com/~biggers
>
> -Bryan
>
> Peter Ashley wrote:
>
> > Wow! what a great idea. I also have the HP200 and the CP900, but I am =
a
> > little confused on how to connect the two physically. Bryan, have you
> > connected the two yet, and if so what cabling system did you use.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Peter
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bryan DK Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> > Date: Friday, August 14, 1998 10:13 PM
> > Subject: Digital camera control program for HP200
> >
> > >Anyone that has an HP200  and a digital camera that uses the Fujitsu
> > >chipset (check the web page below if you
> > >aren't sure, I have a Nikon CP900) might be interested in knowing =
that
> > >there is now a version of the
> > >"CAME" program written by TsuruZoh Tachibanaya especially for the =
HP200
> > >to control these cameras.
> > >Read all about it on the web site, but the program lets you do just
> > >about everything possible with computer
> > >control of the camera; download pictures to the HP200, control the
> > >camera settings, take pictures, and take
> > >time-lapse.  This is REALLY neat. Start at this URL and follow the =
CAME
> > >(turtle) program links.
> > >http://www.quiknet.com/~frcn/FramCam.html
> > >
> > >-Bryan
> > >
>

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>I have a monkey wrench to throw in for you:
>Did you set the "-g" flag when compressing with DIET?  This is the "Great
>decompression routine" flag.  According to the manual, it adds an extra
>100 bytes to the size of the compressed program, but it can result in
>greater decompression speeds.  Your decompression times with DIET seem
>(subjectively) pretty long to me (also a 2X speed machine).  I always
>compress with the "-g" flag set.
>
>Cheers.
>J. P. Grenert
>grenert@mayo.edu
>

J.P,
Thanks for this expaination. I was wondering what the "Great SFX Routine"
option was for.

Owen



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no practical value."
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Hey everybody -

Thanks to Qman for pointing out I was forgetting the "/spd" parameter for the
acecard3.com driver. Works like a champ in my HP-100 The final results are in:


All test were completed with the machine connected to an AC adapter to make the
playing field even. The HP-200 is doublespeeded, the HP-100 is normal clock
speed. All times are in seconds to read and write 13 files consisting of a
total of about 140K, along with creating a directory for them, and then
deleting the files and directory, repeated 6 times:

HP UN: 10MB Flashdisk HP part 1013A from SunDisk, without Stacker
HP STK: 10MB Flashdisk HP part 1013A from SunDisk, with Stacker 3.0
Viking: Viking 48MB ATA Flashcard

          HP STK   HP UN     Viking
HP-200x2  92       45        18
HP-100x1  129      53        30

Now to doublespeed the HP-100 once I back together with my soldering iron!!
Brian

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I found in the W95 help file for the Timex Datalink application (comes =
with W95) information on importing using a CSV file.
Hope this helps.

Don

For Appointments:=20

=B7     There must be at least 3 fields.
=B7     First field must contain the message, or description of the entry; =
the first 15 characters will be imported.
=B7     Second field must contain the date, in one of the following formats: =
3/6/94, 03-06-94, 3-6-94, Mar-6-94, 6 March 1994, or "March 6, 1994".
=B7     Third field must contain the time, in one of the following formats: =
2:24 PM, 2:24PM, 14:24, 0:00:00, 12:00:00 AM.

For Anniversaries, there must be at least two fields; the first must be =
the description, and the second the date, in the formats noted above.
For To-Do Lists, there must be at least two fields; the first must be =
the description, and the second must be a number between 1 and 5. (If =
the second field contains anything other than a number between 1 and 5, =
a 3 will be entered.)
For Phone Numbers:

=B7     There must be at least three fields.
=B7     The first and second must contain first name and last name (or last =
and first, or last and an empty field); they will be read in the order =
presented.  You should have the names in the order you prefer for =
sorting on first name or last name.
=B7     The third must be a phone number, containing up to 12 characters, =
which must be numbers, dashes, or parentheses.
=B7     If the fourth and succeeding fields are also phone numbers, they =
will also be read into the database as separate listings, with the =
name(s) repeated.  All phone number types are set to None; you can enter =
the Timex Data Link database after the import and change these to H, W, =
F, P or C.


-----Original Message-----
From:   Mike Goggin SMTP:mikeg@WANS.NET
Sent:   Sunday, August 16, 1998 9:54 PM
Subject:        Timex Data Link Watch

I just bought a Timex Data Link watch and wondered if there are any
tools, shareware, tips, etc on getting the info from my 200LX to it
without having to reenter it in the Timex software.

The main issue would be extracting 1 day's appointments and formatting
it for the Timex.

I didn't find any mention of Timex on the S.U.P.E.R. site, so any help
would be welcome.

Mike Goggin
Round Rock, TX

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>>I have this Dvorak keyboard TSR from PC Magazine.  I don't know how it
>>..
>>However it also re assigns some of the extra rearrangged HPLX keys.
>
>It may be a larg'ish job. The program looks at the scancodes (not the
>ASCII codes) returned by the keyboard processor and translates all 0ch
><= scancode <= 35h, which apparently fits on a PC keyboard. As far as I
>can see, it leaves the function keys, the number keys and the '-' alone
>and translates the '=' and 'A'-'/' keys which is what you apparently
>want on a PC keyboard.
>
>One would have to make a list of all the scancodes on the HP and find
>out which ones to change. The job also becomes somewhat larger as one
>may have to translate some of the FN and shift key scancodes on the HP -
>something the program is not prepared for. These values also depends on
>the country your HP is made for.
>
>Maybe one could use key200.com to change the problem-keys back?
>Or probably easier, use it to make a dvorak keyboard.
>
>However, changing to a Dvorak keyboard would make ones life hell every
>time one met a QWERTY keyboard.

The other problem as I see it is not a computer-related one at all, but is
perhaps a problem nonetheless.  The Dvorak keyboard is meant to be
touch-typed upon.  I know my fingertips aren't that small...  I tend to use
'thumbs-optimized' typing.  Someone might reasonably create a key200 layout
setup as a 'dvorak-for-thumbs' if you will...


R. James Scheffler
-and-
Srakkt-Hrairh
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On Mon, 17 Aug 1998 09:31:22 +0100, Ian Horsfield (S. Lawson :) articulated...

>I'm surprised you had such a problem with WWPACK, I use it for GP and
>it works great.  I've compressed a number of things using 3.04 and
>3.05b without a problem.

I'm not sure what the problem is, I did notice that you use WWPack on GP, and
it worked fine on PGP, but Less and PE both bombed when executing.  I need to
try it on a few more things as a test to see if it happens more.  But unless
there was something really wrong with my setup, that sort of thing shouldn't
happen.

I'll do some testing and post my results.

Also, I may repost my chart, someone informed me of an option in Diet that
increases the size by 100 bytes, but greatly increases decompression speed!
So I'll probably redo the Diet timings and repost.

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FYI I have a Web-site with links to all software that will run on an
Olympus and compatible camera's:

http://huizen.dds.nl/~kropveld/olympus.html#sw

Daniel Kropveld
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Hi everybody,

I own a 2MB 200LX + 20 MB HP Flash disk, and have have encountered a:

"Disk is write-protected "  message

when attempting to copy or move files from A: to C : AND viceversa.

The strange thing is that as soon as I change directory and GO BACK to the
source drive, MAGIC ! the to be copied file is there regardless of the message
??? !!!

I would greatly appreciate some help to UN PROTECT both C: and A:

Thank you very much !

Andres Shulman

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:32:24 -0700
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On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, K. Mossman wrote:

> I own a 2MB 200LX + 20 MB HP Flash disk, and have have encountered a:
>
> "Disk is write-protected "  message
>
> when attempting to copy or move files from A: to C : AND viceversa.
>
> The strange thing is that as soon as I change directory and GO BACK to the
> source drive, MAGIC ! the to be copied file is there regardless of the message
> ??? !!!
>
> I would greatly appreciate some help to UN PROTECT both C: and A:

I've had similar problems, mostly a complaint that my C drive was write
protected. I backed up the C drive, reinitialized it with Ctrl-Shift-On, and
restored the files and all was OK again.

I'm not sure what causes the problem because I often run programs on the LX
that cause it to lock up and it's possible something may occasionally be
writing into a part of the disk partition illegally. I also access the LX
using interlnk/intersvr from a Win95 system and it's possible that the long
filenames used by Win95 could be causing a problem...I haven't looked
closely enough at the problem because it's only happened about 3-4 times in
2 years.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:18:21 -0400
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I use the HP 200LX and was wondering if anyone knows where I can get a HP
95?  Thanks.
---------------------
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lnguyen@compusnet.com

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Hi Longden,

Thank you for your prompt response.

Actually I am looking for an alternative to the Initializing C: + A: procedure,
which is so time consumming , especially with the flash which has so much info !

I wonder if there is actaully an alternative to the Initializing.
Would you know of any ?

I have another question if I may.

I get the following message when trying to run the Check utility that comes
with the flash: CHECK /F /A, from >>> DOS...

I get this message:
"Check (null) error # 51"

Check will ONLY run from Filer as Check.exe, but when I need to do some file fix,
I get the above message.

What is wrong with my procedure?

I get the same error while executing SDIR !

Thanks again.

Andres

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:54:24 -0700
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On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, K. Mossman wrote:

> Actually I am looking for an alternative to the Initializing C: + A:
> procedure, which is so time consumming , especially with the flash which
> has so much info !
>
> I wonder if there is actaully an alternative to the Initializing.
> Would you know of any ?

I agree it's time consuming, but no I don't have an alternative.

> I have another question if I may.
> I get the following message when trying to run the Check utility that comes
> with the flash: CHECK /F /A, from >>> DOS...
> I get this message:

> "Check (null) error # 51"
>
> Check will ONLY run from Filer as Check.exe, but when I need to do some
> file fix, I get the above message.
> What is wrong with my procedure?
> I get the same error while executing SDIR !

I don't use Stacker myself, so someone else will have to answer that.

- Longden

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> From: Nguyen <lnguyen@COMPUSNET.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: HP 95?
> Date: Tuesday, August 18, 1998 5:18 PM
>
> I use the HP 200LX and was wondering if anyone knows where I can get a HP
> 95?  Thanks.

I have a 95lx 512k version which i currently have for sale at $100
including connection
cable (and the DOS connection software disk if i can find it)

Its a nice little machine, purchased it new from Service Merchandise years
ago at full
price of around $500.

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com


> ---------------------
> Linh Nguyen
> lnguyen@compusnet.com
>
> "Parents always want their children to
>  be something tomorrow, yet they don't
>  see what they already are today"
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1998 19:17:48 -0400
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On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, K. Mossman wrote:
>
> > Actually I am looking for an alternative to the Initializing C: + A:
> > procedure, which is so time consumming , especially with the flash which
> > has so much info !
> >

Can I jump in? If I recall - the origional problem is that a flash card
was write protected? If you are using sdir - that would lead me to beleive
that you are using Stacker. If this is the case - the write protection of
a drive, is a "feature", not a bug. Really. :) If Stacker detects any
"serious" errors, it will write protect the drive, until you repair it.
You can repair the drive, and remove the protection, by using
CHECK A: /F

I hope I understand the situation. In any case - good luck.

Larry

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Hi Larry,

this is Andres;
and Thank you too, for your prompt response and jumping in to try and help
me out !!

I posted the message with the original problem, and Longden C. Loo jumped in
first with his initiallizing suggestion.

1.Yes, as you say:
 " the original problem is that a flash card (was) became ??? write protected.

2. I am trying to avoid initiallizing, for I have too much info to transfer from
   my PC  to the card !

3. I use STACKER with my HP Flash to double its capacity.

4. My second e- ( which I should have included with the first one ), pointed out
  the difficulty that I have using CHECK A: /F :

I run it from DOS, for it won't work from FILER, and I always get the
following message, which might ? be related to the card's satcked status.

Check will ONLY run from Filer as Check.exe, but when I need to do some file fix,
I get the above message.

"check (null)  error, # 51"

5.Conclusion: I cannot repair the drive NOR remove the protection !

What is wrong with my procedure?

I get the same error while executing SDIR !

Thanks again.

Andres

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:16:02 -0400
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Dear all,

This has probably been addressed before, although I could not find anything
in the archives.

Resource Concepts Internet Showroom no longer seems to have the Megahertz
14.4 PC card modem on special for $10 (I couldn't find it on the web page
today), however they do have the 28.8/14.4 model for $24. Can people tell
me if this model works in the HP200, what extra configuration needs to be
done to run it, and how it affects battery life?

Thanks in advance,

Doric Swain.


                                      O__
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Since a few of you have let me know that thinking of five 200LX "power
users" would be impossible, I've decided to broaden the scope of the
contest a little bit.  You can now do the five power users, like it says
at my site (www.hplx.net) OR:

You can send in what you think a good idea for the next contest would be.
Extremely good contest ideas will be added to the selection for this round
of prizes.  Top Five LX "Power Users" entries will still be accepted as
well, of course.

The prizes:

First Place:
8MB upgrade from Times2 Tech
Speed upgrade from Times2 Tech
WWW/LX Plus 2.0 from D&A Software
$40 credit at Thaddeus Computing

Second Place:
8MB upgrade from Times2 Tech
TimeTracker/LX from D&A Software
$20 credit at Thaddeus Computing

Third Place:
Speed upgrade from Times2 Tech
TimeTracker/LX from D&A Software
$15 credit at Thaddeus Computing

Fourth Place:
ABC/LX from D&A Software

Fifth Place:
Volt/LX from D&A Software

--
David Sargeant
http://www.hplx.net

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1998 23:02:59 -0400
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> I have been trying to make some filters in Post/lx without much luck.
>
> For example, I put in the line HPLX-L=3DHP Mailing List under Filters
> in post.cfg.
>
> HP Mailing List is a folder.  I want in comming mail to go
> directly to this folder, but I keep getting filter errors.  I even
> switched it around HP Mailing List=3DHPLX-L and it still doesn't work.

OK, here is a primer on filters.  They are not that difficult and you
were on the right track, just on the wrong train. <grin>

Use the SETUP program to help you.  You already know how to make a new
folder.  In SETUP, use F8 (for Externals) and then F for Filters to
enter filter specs into the Filters section of the POST.CFG.  The
first prompt you asks you for the data that goes to the left of the
equals sign and that is the string to match.  The second prompt is for
the thing to the right of the equals sign and this is the name of the
folder where messages with a header containing the string will be
stored.

The stuff you enter into SETUP above will go into a global filters
section called Filters and will apply to all of you Email inboxes.
This should be fine for most cases because it won't hurt to try to
filter messages that will not fit the criteria for re-routing to a
folder.

So, in order to filter HPLX-List messages into a folder, enter the
filter spec as:

First prompt =3D hplx-l@
Second prompt =3D ListHP

to have SETUP make an entry in POST.CFG like this:

Filters
hplx-l@=3DListHP

which will cause any message download toward any inbox that has the
string "hplx-l@" in the header to go into a folder called ListHP
instead of that inbox.  Of course, you can have a different name for
the folder.

That should be all you need.  Personally, I have a slightly more
complicated arrangement that I will describe.  But novices should not
go any further because the following requires manually editing the
POST.CFG file.  Enter at your own risk! <grin>

Filters in the Filters section are global and apply to all
mailboxes.  I wanted to have this filter apply to only one of my
inboxes (the one for Mail) and not to the other mailboxes.  So, to do
this required I add some extra stuff in my POST.CFG like this:

I have a folder called ListHP.  This is nothing special.

FOLDERS
ListHP=3DF

In the section for my Email, I have a specification to tell it to
process incoming mail though a filter called ListFilter.  This line is
added to the Mail section or the section for whichever mailbox you
want this specific filter to apply to.

Mail
Filter=3DListFilter

And I have a new section I added somewhere else that describes what
that filter is

ListFilter
hplx-l@=3DListHP

So, all of this means that when a message is downloaded toward this
specific inbox, it will be filtered by this specific filter.


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1998 22:08:51 -0500
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Hello to the list,

I've seen posts to the list that mention how much current
different card modems draw through the PCMCIA port.  I know
that some of the information comes from product literature,
but some of the posts mention the actual current that is drawn
by individual cards, which varies from card to card.  Is there
a program that measures the actual current draw used by a
particular card?  How is the actual current measured?

Also, for WWW/LX, other than specifying COM2 and a different
baud rate, are there any other settings that must be done to
use a card modem?  I've set up LXCIC, which indicates the
modem powers up, but don't get a response from the modem
(e.g., in datacom, typing 'AT', I get no repoonse from the
modem).  Is there something I'm missing?

TIA,

Claud

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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1998 03:10:58 +0000
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              Mikhail Epelbaum <mepelbaum@ATTCANADA.NET>
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Frans - you are right. It was immature of me to call your interest in
the toy vs nontoy issue immature. But then, I was only playing... Just
another freaky event in an otherwise orderly discussion.

But enough games, time to go searching for missed billable items (for
32 different strings anywhere within a 80 character field, in 8200
dbase records). Now, THIS is fun!..

Mikhail

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:24:06 -0700
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On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> I've seen posts to the list that mention how much current
> different card modems draw through the PCMCIA port.  I know
> that some of the information comes from product literature,
> but some of the posts mention the actual current that is drawn
> by individual cards, which varies from card to card.  Is there
> a program that measures the actual current draw used by a
> particular card?  How is the actual current measured?

I don't know about anybody else, but I measure it with a multimeter.  You
can get one of these at almost any electronics shop-- Radio Shack has lots
of them.  The easiest way to do it is to get a cheap AC adapter, cut one
of the wires coming to the part that plugs into the 200LX, and then hook
up the multimeter probes in series.  Switch it to current-measuring mode,
and you're in business.

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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1998 00:42:03 -0500
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              Mike Goggin <mikeg@WANS.NET>
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I'm guessing that W95 must be the PC application for another variety of=20
the Datalink.  Mine specifically is the Ironman Triathlon with Datalink=20
and the software is Timexidl.exe.  The help files for it only discuss=20
importing phone entries - which closely resembles the phone info you=20
included.

It maintains a separate file (alarm.dat) for appointments and it=20
appears to be a simple format.  I can tell what the fields are based=20
upon the contents.  Because of this, if I could build a file like it, I=20
could replace the file and then start the Datalink program.

After pondering a while today, I realized that I can extract 1 day's=20
appointments by printing to a file using a Datacard format.  With this,=20
I suspect I can write a Basic program to convert the print file to 1=20
that the Datalink will accept.

Thanks for the reply.
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From:   Donald Collins SMTP:dcollins@TRENDX.COM
Sent:   Tuesday, August 18, 1998 10:37 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: Timex Data Link Watch

I found in the W95 help file for the Timex Datalink application (comes=20
with W95) information on importing using a CSV file.
Hope this helps.

Don

For Appointments:

=B7     There must be at least 3 fields.
=B7     First field must contain the message, or description of the=20
entry; the first 15 characters will be imported.
=B7     Second field must contain the date, in one of the following=20
formats: 3/6/94, 03-06-94, 3-6-94, Mar-6-94, 6 March 1994, or "March 6,=20
1994".
=B7     Third field must contain the time, in one of the following=20
formats: 2:24 PM, 2:24PM, 14:24, 0:00:00, 12:00:00 AM.

For Anniversaries, there must be at least two fields; the first must be=20
the description, and the second the date, in the formats noted above.
For To-Do Lists, there must be at least two fields; the first must be=20
the description, and the second must be a number between 1 and 5. (If=20
the second field contains anything other than a number between 1 and 5,=20
a 3 will be entered.)
For Phone Numbers:

=B7     There must be at least three fields.
=B7     The first and second must contain first name and last name (or=20
last and first, or last and an empty field); they will be read in the=20
order presented.  You should have the names in the order you prefer for=20
sorting on first name or last name.
=B7     The third must be a phone number, containing up to 12 =
characters,=20
which must be numbers, dashes, or parentheses.
=B7     If the fourth and succeeding fields are also phone numbers, they =

will also be read into the database as separate listings, with the=20
name(s) repeated.  All phone number types are set to None; you can=20
enter the Timex Data Link database after the import and change these to=20
H, W, F, P or C.


-----Original Message-----
From:   Mike Goggin SMTP:mikeg@WANS.NET
Sent:   Sunday, August 16, 1998 9:54 PM
Subject:        Timex Data Link Watch

I just bought a Timex Data Link watch and wondered if there are any
tools, shareware, tips, etc on getting the info from my 200LX to it
without having to reenter it in the Timex software.

The main issue would be extracting 1 day's appointments and formatting
it for the Timex.

I didn't find any mention of Timex on the S.U.P.E.R. site, so any help
would be welcome.

Mike Goggin
Round Rock, TX

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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:54:26 +1000
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              Crombie Redd <crombie@NETSPACE.NET.AU>
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> Is there something I'm missing?


Claud,

You may have to turn off dial tone detect - we do in Australia. To do so -
in the Modem Init of wwwsetup.exe type ATx3 Good luck.

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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1998 09:06:33 +0200
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I am searching for an ACAD browser for the W-95. Would you suggest that
there is an ACAD browser even for the HP200LX ?

Harry Wellner, The Netherlands

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>Sent:  17 August 1998 17:46
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: ACAD and the HP
>
>hi Cathy
>I thought you were using the version 2.6 and 10?
>Where did you found the 2.1?
>could you send me a copy?
>regards
>Alain
>
>
>> Whoa guys!     I have tried R2.1 and couldn't get it to run on the
>>HP.....Mor
>> e   info please!!!
>>
>> I am an ACAD teacher and would love the have even a rudimentary program on
>>the
>> palmtop.
>>
>> Cathy
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1998 18:14:37 +10
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              Alain <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
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No, It's not a browser, It's ACAD.
The version 2.6 and 10 can run on the LX.
(the 10 need a coprocessor emulator)
regards
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1998 19:05:37 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Hi,

I have some ideas for contests:

* Who can create the coolest Topcard.

* Who can find the most interesting old DOS freeware/shareware program on
the net which is not yet on any 200LX web site (good way to find new
interesting programs :) ).

* Who is the most advanced palmtop user- a description of the usage about
2000 words or so.

* The Most Unsual Place/situation you have used your palmtop.

* The most interesting accessory you have made yourself for your palmtop
(such as serial connector, casing, name plate).

* Write a short fun story what happened when you and your friends in the
office had to use a palmtop to solve a work related problem. You using
95/100/200LX and your friend/friends a Win CE palmtop.

* Create a HTML ad for 200LX. One web page advertising the 200LX.

* Give your Top 10 list of people you think has made the most important
contribution to the HPLX society- software authors, hardware manufactures
e.t.c.



Just some quick ideas.

Regards,

Jorgen


> Since a few of you have let me know that thinking of five 200LX "power
> users" would be impossible, I've decided to broaden the scope of the
> contest a little bit.  You can now do the five power users, like it =
says
> at my site (www.hplx.net) OR:
>
> You can send in what you think a good idea for the next contest would =
be.
> Extremely good contest ideas will be added to the selection for this =
round
> of prizes.  Top Five LX "Power Users" entries will still be accepted as
> well, of course.
>

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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:32:15 +0100
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Found this and thought it may be of interest to list members.

It only mentions CE (of course) but seems to be incredibly low power, (I=20
don't know how to translate the 60 milliwatts quoted to the milliamps we=20
usually use for comparison).

http://www.socketcom.com/press/cfxlpepr.htm

A quote from the Press release...
"As a member of Socket=92s family of Battery Friendly=99 I/O adapters for=
=20
Windows CE-based devices, the new LP-E Card prolongs the battery
life of its mobile host by being energy efficient, requiring only 60
milliwatts to operate. In comparison, typical PC Card adapters draw 10 to
20 times more power. Low power consumption allows users to spend
less time changing batteries or hassling with bulky AC adapters and more
time doing productive work. The CompactFlash size Low Power Ethernet
Card achieves this breakthrough in power conservation by being the
first Windows CE I/O adapter to operate on 3.3 volts rather than 5 volts.=
 "

and ...
"The CompactFlash version of the Low Power Ethernet Card has a
suggested retail price of $149"

Mike

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Power = Current * Voltage, so because it said that it's running at 3.3V,
the current is (.06/3.3) = 18 milliamps.

Does anyone know whether the HP200LX supports 3.3V PC Cards?  I think the
standard is 5V.

Michael Hendricks

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Subject:      Re: Megahertz 28.8/14.4 PCMCIA modem
Comments: To: Doric Swain <D.Swain@CCHS.USYD.EDU.AU>
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On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Doric Swain wrote:

> Resource Concepts Internet Showroom no longer seems to have the Megahertz
> 14.4 PC card modem on special for $10 (I couldn't find it on the web page
> today), however they do have the 28.8/14.4 model for $24. Can people tell
> me if this model works in the HP200, what extra configuration needs to be
> done to run it, and how it affects battery life?

I think the consensus was that it wouldn't work because of the power draw.

Chris D Herrera, a big palmtop user (now of CE persuasion) has a modem power
usage webpage at http://members.aol.com/pdcchrisd/pccrdpwr.htm

All 3 models of the Megahertz 28.8 modems listed there show 275mA, and the
limit on the LX slot is supposed to be 150mA. Doesn't sound like it would
work, even under AC.. tho I don't have one myself to confirm this..plus I
don't know if the modem you're talking about is one of the three listed
(XJ2288, XJA2288, CCA3288).

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:19:20 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Jorgen has some prreettty good ideas......

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> I've set up LXCIC, which indicates the modem powers up, but don't get a
> response from the modem (e.g., in datacom, typing 'AT', I get no repoonse
> from the modem).  Is there something I'm missing?

Claud, I'm not sure which modem you're using, or which version of LXCIC.

In Datacomm, make sure you're pointing to the card and not the serial port:

        Menu/Connect/Settings/Interface

        "Com2" should be toggled on

If this still doesn't work, some earlier versions of LXCIC had some bugs.
I'd suggest you verify that the modem is active using the built-in driver.
Just add this line to your autoexec.bat:

        d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1

and try Datacomm again. If it still doesn't work, it may be the power draw
on the modem. Have a look at this website, maybe it shows the power draw
for your particular modem:

        http://members.aol.com/pdcchrisd/pccrdpwr.htm

- Longden

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In a message dated 98-08-18 17:33:19 EDT, you write:

>  I also access the LX
>  using interlnk/intersvr from a Win95 system and it's possible that the long
>  filenames used by Win95 could be causing a problem...I haven't looked
>  closely enough at the problem because it's only happened about 3-4 times in
>  2 years.

I can say the problem has nothing to do with either W96 or Interlink/Intersvr
as I've had the problem and I NEVER used these in conjunction with stacker.
Look elsewhere.

yor pal al.........................

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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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Why not use ANSI.SYS macros to remap the keyboard?

On another thread, for reading compressed .html files,
why not use Stacker or other compressed drive utility?

Steve


>From:    Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
>Subject: Re: Dvorak

>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:

>> Maybe one could use key200.com to change the problem-keys back?
>> Or probably easier, use it to make a dvorak keyboard.

>I'll dig my manual out and look at key200.com
>>
>> However, changing to a Dvorak keyboard would make ones life hell every
>> time one met a QWERTY keyboard.

>Indeed, that is the reason for wanting to use it on the HPLX as well.
>Dvorak is easy to install on my Desktop and Notebook.

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Subject:      Dvorak? Rex ?

To me Dvorak sounded first after a well known composer. But now I doubt.
Could somebody explain me in plain english what is hidden behind this word?
Rex, king if I am not wrong. And what is hiding behind this word?

Too much of a good thing is wonderful.

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Hi Frans.  This is my first message, reply on this newsgroup. Been on
CompuServe for years, and have meant to come over here, but somehow
never made/had the time.  I've had some difficulty sending this message
from Outlook. Even though "plain text" is set, somehow HTML also got
sent, and my message rejected because it
was too long.  Hopefully, this will go.


<<I think it is fair to tell the customer about a new version as soon as
you know it. Then the customer has the choice. People who bought a 32Mb
version before you were aware of the possibility of creating a 64Mb
model then have nothing to complain about.>>

There really wasn't much lead time. I didn't know Mack had it working
and that he thought it would be ready for our new catalog, Aug 1, until
mid-June.  It is tough to pre-announce products for a number of reasons.
For one people, continually call and ask when it will be ready. This is
a resource drain. For another, as you know, stuff happens, and the
product may be delayed or never ship.  For example, Mack has looked into
128M.  (I hope he doesn't mind me sharing this). He tells me that it
would be a major software effort to write the appropriate drivers
because of the Palmtop BIOS.
Suppose tomorrow he tells me he can do it. Should I announce it?  If I
don't, based on my previous statement to you that we had no plans for
the 128M, wouldn't you be upset again. Also, purely from a business
point of view, I don't want (and can't afford) to have my customers wait
indefinitely for a product, when I can sell him one now.

<<I understand these problems very well, being a professional in the
software and hardware industry as well. However, I just wished to be
informed about this (the price justifies the cost of a stamp) rather
than
anxiously waiting for the mail man every day to see if SC has arrived,
for weeks,
wondering if something got lost or so, and finally upon initiative from
my side get an answer that it has been delayed even further. Apology
accepted however.>>

Yes, we should have.  However, it would have required 3 post cards for
some people<g> as I kept thinking we would be able to get the products
out sooner.


<<I think I owe you an apology as well, for not having contacted you
about this in the first place. However, it was not my intention to start
a debate right here, it started as a slightly frustrated reply on
someone
else's mail, which generated some more replies from various people, both
pro
and con, etc.>>


Apology accepted, although I don't think you have much to apologize for.

I am a consumer too.  I understand and can easily put myself in your
shoes. Sometimes, however, I think it is more difficult for people to
understand the constraints of a small business.  That is not to make an
excuse, as there are plenty of resource and bureaucratic constraints in
a larger company as well.

Although, I don't completely agree with your characterization of the
market as "gadget" Vs "necessity", there is certainly some truth to it.
Without positive word-of-mouth (from good customer service and quality
products) it would be difficult if not impossible to survive.

Hal Goldstein
President
Thaddeus Computing
hal@thaddeus.com
www.thaddeus.com

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On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

> To me Dvorak sounded first after a well known composer. But now I doubt.
> Could somebody explain me in plain english what is hidden behind this word?
> Rex, king if I am not wrong. And what is hiding behind this word?

"Dvorak" refers to an alternative keyboard layout (i.e. the keys are in
different positions, not QWERTY).  It's supposedly faster than a normal
keyboard, but I have no experience with that.

The "Rex" is a credit card sized deviced that has a little LCD screen and
keeps track of phone numbers, appointments(?), and the like.  It can plug
into a PCMCIA socket and there exists sync software for the 620LX, I
think.

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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:41:48 -0400
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              James Scheffler <srakkt@TIAC.NET>
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>> To me Dvorak sounded first after a well known composer. But now I doubt.
>> Could somebody explain me in plain english what is hidden behind this word?
>> Rex, king if I am not wrong. And what is hiding behind this word?
>
>"Dvorak" refers to an alternative keyboard layout (i.e. the keys are in
>different positions, not QWERTY).  It's supposedly faster than a normal
>keyboard, but I have no experience with that.

The Dvorak keyboard layout is designed to be faster for those who type in
English, based upon a few things.  First, the commonly-used 'QWERTY'
keyboard layout was designed by a typewriter manufacturer to actually SLOW
DOWN typists!  This was to prevent type mechanism jams.  The inventor went
on to make a killing by advertising his typewriters as unjammable.
        Essentially what he did was this:  he analyzed the English language,
finding letters and combinations of letters that were typed most
frequently, and made them as difficult to type as he could.
        The Dvorak keyboard layout does the opposite: it makes those letters and
key combinations easy to use via touch-typing.

        That of course is dependent upon touch-typing then, for speed.  My
personal feeling is that little benefit is gained, therefore, from having a
dvorak layout on the 200LX.  How many people touch-type upon it?
        What might be more beneficial would be for someone to study the way 200LX
users type...  (of the four that I know (myself included) we type holding
the machine like a game controller, and type with out thumbs.)  and using
that information to create a layour where the most used letters were within
easy reach of the thumbs, etc...

        Just my $.02


R. James Scheffler
-and-
Srakkt-Hrairh
******************
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Nothing, it is the name of the guy who came up with the keyboard.

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

> To me Dvorak sounded first after a well known composer. But now I doubt.
> Could somebody explain me in plain english what is hidden behind this word?
> Rex, king if I am not wrong. And what is hiding behind this word?
>
> Too much of a good thing is wonderful.
>
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This is off-list subject a bit, but since palmtop people seem to attract
other palmtop people I thought I'd post this up.

Recently my local Office Depot decided to discontinue carrying the PSION
line. They marked the PSION 5 down to $250, and since I'd heard some great
things about them I bought one. While it is a wonderful machine, I'm more
comfortable with my 200lx. Therefore I'm putting this machine up for sale or
trade.

Description:
The machine I have was the last one they had (the demo model). Physically
the unit looks new. I've worked with it and everything seems to work
(serial, IR, voice recorder, etc.). The only things missing are the stylus
and a box. Manuals, Software, and serial cable are included.

As a sale item, I am asking for $250 flat, shipping included. For trade I am
looking for a 1000cx 2mb, but would consider a 200lx 2mb as well. I am not
above considering other items on a case by case basis.

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ

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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1998 18:58:42 +0200
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<html><div>Hi friends,</div>
<div>has anybody heard of a Portuguese dictionary for the HPLX to
Spanish, English, French or German ? Hal Goldstein offers the Collins in
four major Western languages, unfortunately without Portuguese.</div>
<div>Winfried</div>
<BR>

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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1998 13:31:19 -0400
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Hi Parick!

02h13m23s ago ...
On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, River Wolf wrote:

> ...
> As a sale item, I am asking for $250 flat, shipping included. For trade =
I am
> looking for a 1000cx 2mb, but would consider a 200lx 2mb as well. I am =
not
> above considering other items on a case by case basis.

Would you consider a 100LX 1MB w/EXP 1414LXM 4MB FLASH/MODEM? Unit is
in fair condition...screen is floppy & cover latch spring is replaced w/
rubberband. I'll throw in a leather case as well.

Cheers,


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Comments: To: River Wolf <rivrwolf@HOM.NET>
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>P.S. Remember about a week ago I was making fun of CE? Be careful what you
>say, this could happen to you too.
>
It did happen to me, three years ago.  The suggestions made here so far,
such as DOC2RTF and the use of the "Save As ..." option in Word, really do
work.  Another thing I have done with Word is to save a doc as HTML and then
view it with HV.  Also, in Excel, you can modfiy spreadsheets in .WK1
format, and you can convert from .XLS to .WK1 using Excel's "Save As ...".
Even more radical, perhaps more trouble but my personal preference, is to
use the Windows Clipboard to transfer data between Word or Excel and plain
old text.  I do Select All, Copy, then Paste into Notepad, then save the
text file.  Then I can edit it with Calvin when I get around to it and
reverse the process to put it all back into Word or Excel.  (Word and Excel
have "Save As ... Text" options, but they don't give you portable formats -
copy and paste works better, and when you copy/paste with Excel you get
tab-delimited files.)  I lose the font formatting, but I don't spend a lot
of time on that stuff anyway; on the other hand, DOC2RTF will preserve Bold
and Underlining if that's important.
-George

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Hi all,

I'm running a DOS program and I can't seem to use the arrow keys to select
text.  Normally, you can hold down the shift key and use the arrows to move
around and select.  All I get are numbers being inserted.  For example, if
I press shift right-arrow, I get a "6".

I thought I remembered reading something in the manual about a special key
combination to get what I want, but I can't find it.  Any suggestions
(other than: don't try to select text)?

Thanks much,

Danny

P.S.  The program I am running is:
ftp://ftp.parallaxinc.com/pub/parallax/stamp2.exe

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On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Al Kind wrote:

> Hi Parick!
> ...

My Apologies for accidental post to LIST...AJKind

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Larry,

thanks for your reply & suggestion.

As I said before, I'm still experiencing problems with the CHECK command that
came with my HP Flash.

The only command I use to check and fix Stacked is:

CHECK A: /F

but I STILL get:

"check (null)  error, # 51"

Any suggestions as to where I can find & download a Stacker 4.0.?

Thanks again.

Andres

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> Hi all,
> I'm running a DOS program and I can't seem to use the arrow keys to sel=
ect
> text.  Normally, you can hold down the shift key and use the arrows to =
move
> around and select.  All I get are numbers being inserted.  For example,=
 if
> I press shift right-arrow, I get a "6".
>
> I thought I remembered reading something in the manual about a special =
key
> combination to get what I want, but I can't find it.  Any suggestions
> (other than: don't try to select text)?
> Danny
>
> P.S.  The program I am running is:
> ftp://ftp.parallaxinc.com/pub/parallax/stamp2.exe

Press the "Menu" key at the same time. (I know, you need to
have multi-jointed fingers!)

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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1998 16:21:20 -0400
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On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, K. Mossman wrote:

>
> Any suggestions as to where I can find & download a Stacker 4.0.?


Alas no. Last I heard Stac had dropped all support for the product. I
don't know that it is available for sale any longer.

Larry

>
> Thanks again.
>
> Andres
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I think I have an upgrade version of Stacker 4.0 available for the
asking.  As an upgrade, it obviously requires a previous version already
be installed.  If you want more info, I'll have to dig up the box from
the office.

If anyone wants it, email me.  It is still new, sealed in package and of
no interest to me.

Larry Zimmerman

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Maybe someday soon. I just asked
my amor for one from Brazil.

Semper Mobilis,
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Subject:      Re: PSION 5 FS or trade

Hi listers,

Hey talk about trade, I have a
Toshiba T1200 rarely used laptop
with manuals for trade. I'm looking
for a 64MB flash card, give or take
a couple MB.  For an 80MB card,
I'll throw in a 44/88 MB Syquest
removable hard drive.

Semper Mobilis,
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Hi All,

Seems like I'm never happy ;-)

I'm trying to start ccMail from the program manager and noticed that the
ccMail icon has been replaced by the Quicken one - Sure enough, Quicken
starts when I click it! and it "won't let me" edit the settings with the F3
"Edit" command.

It's a double-speed 200LX w/ 32 MB and I don't swap the "big" portion (I let
it be G: instead of C:).

TIA

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 16:43:56 -0500
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Hey guys, lets deal
Larry reply to me direct

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Hi,

I just looked and saw that in Excel, Options that one can pre-define the
save format to i.e. WK1. Nice. But Word doesn't have this possiblility? One
has to do a SAVE AS?

Have a nice day!

Franklin

(Compaq Aero 4/33C upgraded to 20 MB RAM and 1,4 GB HDD running W95 & a
14,4 kB modem)

New love in my life above! :-) Just use the 200LX for pim stuff.
Temporarly. Scout's honour.

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Hi,

Seems to me that I saw a HP200LX "connectivity" serial port cable for the
Macintosh available somewhere.  Does anybody know of a URL for this ?


TIA,
Jon

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It is inccluded with IBM PC DOS 7.0 and IBM PC DOS 2000.

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Larry Feldman wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, K. Mossman wrote:
>
> >
> > Any suggestions as to where I can find & download a Stacker 4.0.?
>
>
> Alas no. Last I heard Stac had dropped all support for the product. I
> don't know that it is available for sale any longer.
>
> Larry
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> > Thanks again.
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OTOH
I had problems using LXCIC 1.1 with my ModemBlaster, same symptoms,
dropping back down to ver. 1.0 worked for me. Don't know why.....

good luck

Paul

On 1998-08-19 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
   >On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:
   >> I've set up LXCIC, which indicates the modem powers up, but don't
   >>get a  response from the modem (e.g., in datacom, typing 'AT', I
   >>get no repoonse  from the modem).  Is there something I'm missing?
   >Claud, I'm not sure which modem you're using, or which version of
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On the other hand, you have different fingers.

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Whoah... now I have the same problem as when I was running bcom...
When I exit out of wwpack, my cursor in dos disappears.

Is there a fix for this, or is it just something I have to deal with?

I'm running a single-speed 200LX with 2mb ram, and cic100 resident, all out
in dos.

Any help would be appreciated.

Owen

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Ahoy Listers

Talk about a trade, I have a
Toshiba T1200 rarely used laptop
with manuals for trade. I'm looking
for a 64MB flash card, give or take
a couple MB.  For an 80MB card,
I'll throw in a 44/88 MB Syquest
removable hard drive.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............


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<HTML>
Does anyone know how to import phone database records into ACT 1.1. I seem
to have misplaced my manual and can't quite remember how to do it.
<BR>Thanks
<BR>Tony Guzewicz</HTML>

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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1998 21:01:45 -0600
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Does anyone have 'deltree.exe' & 'move.exe' for dos 5.0, or something
equivalent? (Or know where I could get them...) The only ones I could find
were for win95, and seem to do wierd things all the time.

Thanks in advance.

Owen

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Has anyone had success running the freeware clock program on the S.U.P.E.R.
site that puts a clock and battery indicator in the upper corner of the LX
on a doublespeed machine? Whenever I try to run it, it freaks out my LX and
forces me to do the <ctrl><alt><on> sequence to reset my unit. I'm wondering
if the doublespeed driver might have something to do with it.

Jeff


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I took James Scheffler's suggestion and cooked up a keyboard layout
that is optimized for the way that us HP palmtop users type with our
thumbs. Check out http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~mdh2 for info on what it
looks like and how to install it.

It uses key200, so everyone should be able to get it running with out
too many problems.  The layout is only a couple days old, so I can't
tell you how much it has improved my typing speed because I'm still
learning it.

I'll update the web page in the next couple of days with some info on
the process that I used to derive this layout. I welcome any comments
on ways to make the layout better.

Michael Hendricks

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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1998 23:08:21 -0500
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              Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Digest Readers:

Along with the new version of LXDR that just went up on SUPER, there
also exists a special version called LXDRP. This came into existence
rather quickly after I sent out a HPLX-L message asking about how to
reply to a message that I was reading with LXDR as an external program
in POST/LX. Emailing back and forth with Rick Kozak and Andreas
Garzotto, we decided that it would be cool to hit a button while
reading a message in LXDR and have that message appended to a POST/LX
mailbox of your choice. So this is what Rick wrote and this special,
commercial version is available directly from him. Details are in the
freeware archive.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 01:06:01 EDT
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> When I exit out of wwpack, my cursor in dos disappears.
>
> Is there a fix for this, or is it just something I have to deal with?
>
A kludgy fix may be to keep bigcurs (something like that) on there. Maybe
even run the app from a batch file with bigcurs at the end.

Darren.

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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1998 23:04:02 -0700
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Subject:      FS: 5MB HP200LX (doublespeed)

You all know what this is so I'll spare you the details.
Originally a 1MB model, this has been upgraded to 5MB and speed doubled.

Also included:
ThinFax 1414LX Modem (14.4 FaxModem with onboard Fax software and 2MB flash
drive)
ACCTON network card
2 AC Power adapters
Homemade palmtop serial 2 pc serial adapter
printer adapter

IntelliSync Software
Act! For Palmtops
HP 200LX Developer's Guide
WATTCP developer's manual

This package would be great for an LXTCP developer

Cost: US$ 400 obo + Shipping & Handling (UPS C.O.D.)

Reply to: rtmcbrid@sfu.ca or call (604) 831-7781



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Hi David

I wonder if you can help me. I am a novice at setting up my new modem which
I bought from Thaddeus some time back. It is the Megahertz 14.4bps fax
modem. I have a double speed 200LX with 8mb ram.
I have read most documents that I can find but still seem to having trouble
to connect, it says modem not installed. Am I missing something?? I would
like to use it to read and send email, can this be done seing that it is a
fax card? I would also like to connect it to my cell phone, can this be
done?
Thaddeus does not support this equipment unfortunately. Very little
documnetation on how to connect.

If you can help I really would appreciate it is you could explain in lay
terms step by step.
Thanx a stack



John

johnf@gims.com

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 21:38:23 PDT
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              David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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> Hi,
>
> Seems to me that I saw a HP200LX "connectivity" serial port cable for =
the
> Macintosh available somewhere.  Does anybody know of a URL for this ?
>
The HP part no for the Mac serial cable is  : F1016A

The PC part no is ; F1016A

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 06:25:40 -0400
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Ryan:
What's speed is the double speed?  How does it compare to the HP95lx's speed?
Is there a benchmark comparison to an XT, 286, 386, etc. speed?

Will you sell the unit as a stand alone (i.e., without all the accessories)?
Ted Treibick
treibick@tiac.net

Ryan Thomas McBride wrote:

> You all know what this is so I'll spare you the details.
> Originally a 1MB model, this has been upgraded to 5MB and speed doubled.
>
> Also included:
> ThinFax 1414LX Modem (14.4 FaxModem with onboard Fax software and 2MB flash
> drive)
> ACCTON network card
> 2 AC Power adapters
> Homemade palmtop serial 2 pc serial adapter
> printer adapter
>
> IntelliSync Software
> Act! For Palmtops
> HP 200LX Developer's Guide
> WATTCP developer's manual
>
> This package would be great for an LXTCP developer
>
> Cost: US$ 400 obo + Shipping & Handling (UPS C.O.D.)
>
> Reply to: rtmcbrid@sfu.ca or call (604) 831-7781
>
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How would I go about importing addresses from my Palm Pilot to my 200LX?


--
73

Nick Marsh
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 05:52:46 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:

> I'm trying to start ccMail from the program manager and noticed that the
> ccMail icon has been replaced by the Quicken one - Sure enough, Quicken
> starts when I click it! and it "won't let me" edit the settings with the F3
> "Edit" command.
>
> It's a double-speed 200LX w/ 32 MB and I don't swap the "big" portion (I let
> it be G: instead of C:).

I don't have any experience with the 32mb setup, but it sounds like a
problem with your appmgr.dat file. I'll quote another poster (from back in
July) on a solution, tho I haven't tried it myself:

--> quote:

1. exit the Applications manager (Quit from the &More screen)
2. rename your c:\_dat\appmgr.dat file to something like appmgr.old
3. run the Applications Mgr again...

Before doing the above, you might want to write down any non-internal apps
you've got installed so you can re-install them in your new appmgr.dat file
once it's created. I suggested renaming the file rather than deleting it so
you could switch back later if you realised you forgot something. (And,
before you ask, "No, sorry, but there's no easy way to cut and paste
application-records from one appmgr.dat file to the other....")

--> end quote


- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 05:55:34 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Owen Kalau wrote:

> Does anyone have 'deltree.exe' & 'move.exe' for dos 5.0, or something
> equivalent? (Or know where I could get them...) The only ones I could find
> were for win95, and seem to do wierd things all the time.

You may want to look for them in
        http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5463/files.html

Let me know if you have problems getting them.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 07:52:58 -0500
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Tink that deltree and move only comes
wit DOS v6.0 or higher.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 06:14:13 -0700
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On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Has anyone had success running the freeware clock program on the S.U.P.E.R.
> site that puts a clock and battery indicator in the upper corner of the LX
> on a doublespeed machine? Whenever I try to run it, it freaks out my LX and
> forces me to do the <ctrl><alt><on> sequence to reset my unit. I'm wondering
> if the doublespeed driver might have something to do with it.

I think you're referring to Jorgen Dybdahl's "CLK" program?

I have a pre-SUPER version that I occasionally run on my 6mb/2x LX. It's 907
bytes long, and doesn't seem to give me any problems the few times I've
used it.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 06:34:27 -0700
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On Thu, 20 Aug 1998, John Fowler wrote:

> I wonder if you can help me. I am a novice at setting up my new modem which
> I bought from Thaddeus some time back. It is the Megahertz 14.4bps fax
> modem. I have a double speed 200LX with 8mb ram.

What's the model of the modem. Look on the back of the modem and it should
say something like: "MODEL XJ1144".

I use an XJ3144 on my 6mb/2x LX.

> I have read most documents that I can find but still seem to having trouble
> to connect, it says modem not installed. Am I missing something??

On your autoexec.bat, make sure you have the line:

        d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1

On some machines, this line is there, but commented out like this:

        rem  d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1

> like to use it to read and send email, can this be done seing that it is a
> fax card?

Probably. AFAIK, they're all FAX/Data cards.

> I would also like to connect it to my cell phone, can this be done?

Depends on the model number. If you have an XJ3144, then maybe, but then
you'd still need the phone cable.

> Thaddeus does not support this equipment unfortunately. Very little
> documnetation on how to connect.

Most of the information is gleaned from the HP200LX manual. Some hints have
to be given here or there, depending on what software you're trying to use
with the modem (Datacomm, NetTamer, WWW/LX, GP, etc). We'd still need to
know the modem model number and what software you're trying.

> If you can help I really would appreciate it is you could explain in lay
> terms step by step.

I think most readers would agree that a lay termed explanation would be
inappropriate on the list, and that in any case, not enough information is
known to help you at this point (modem model, whether cic100 driver is
enabled, what communication software you're trying to use).

Feel free to email me privately if you feel you need more help, and when you
have the information I've mentioned.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 06:38:38 -0700
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On Sun, 23 Aug 1998, al chin wrote:

> Tink that deltree and move only comes wit DOS v6.0 or higher.

I pointed the poster earlier to a website:
        http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5463/files.html

and that has files for DOS 5.0, but I stand corrected by Al, DELTREE and
MOVE are not in DOS 5.0, so you won't find them there. Sorry.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 21:32:26 +0800
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Subject:      Re: 200lx to Office 97 conversion
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Yes, but what about somebody send me an email with the excel attach to it.

All I could do now is just upload the attached file into my PC, open it with
Ms Excel and then save as WK1 format. Download it back into my HP200 and
open it with 1-2-3. After all these, I found that the file loses all the
original format. The formula does not work at all.

This is the only way and it cannot be done if I receive the mail overseas
without bring along my PC.

Anyway . .

Does anybody know the format of Office 97 Excel and Word.

If I have the information, I am willing to try to use my programming
knowledge to develop some converter.

-----Original Message-----
From: Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, August 20, 1998 6:16 AM
Subject: Re: 200lx to Office 97 conversion


>Hi,
>
>I just looked and saw that in Excel, Options that one can pre-define the
>save format to i.e. WK1. Nice. But Word doesn't have this possiblility? One
>has to do a SAVE AS?
>
>Have a nice day!
>
>Franklin
>
>(Compaq Aero 4/33C upgraded to 20 MB RAM and 1,4 GB HDD running W95 & a
>14,4 kB modem)
>
>New love in my life above! :-) Just use the 200LX for pim stuff.
>Temporarly. Scout's honour.
>
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 08:03:27 -0700
Reply-To:     Tim Shephard <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
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OK Buddy wizards,

Where is the setting in Buddy for double entering doc files in filer, and =
having them open in Memo?

Now when I do it, Memo opens but the file does not appear.

Thanks

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments)
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 11:21:32 -0400
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Hi All:

     I am thinning out my collection of PCMCIA FAX/MODEMS and have two
to offer:

1- AT&T KeepInTouch: has short cable(3cm), but will include connector
and extension cable.

2- EXP1414CL w/new cable.

     Both come w/o docs, but I have used both these modems extensively
and they work great!


- I am asking $15 for each which includes shipping within U.S.

- If you live outside the US, terms are negotiable.

- If you are a student on a tight budget, and have need of a
FAX/MODEM for your LX, drop me a note.


Cheers,

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 17:33:41 +0200
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Yes I'm looking for EXP1414CL but I live in Lithuania(near Baltic Sea)
How can I pay, maybe COD?

On Thu, 20 Aug 1998, Al Kind wrote:

> Hi All:
>
>      I am thinning out my collection of PCMCIA FAX/MODEMS and have two
> to offer:
>
> 1- AT&T KeepInTouch: has short cable(3cm), but will include connector
> and extension cable.
>
> 2- EXP1414CL w/new cable.
>
>      Both come w/o docs, but I have used both these modems extensively
> and they work great!
>
>
> - I am asking $15 for each which includes shipping within U.S.
>
> - If you live outside the US, terms are negotiable.
>
> - If you are a student on a tight budget, and have need of a
> FAX/MODEM for your LX, drop me a note.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 08:44:35 -0700
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              Donald Collins <dcollins@TRENDX.COM>
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I use Word 97 and have this option under TOOLS/OPTION/SAVE/SAVE WORD FILES AS:MSDOS TEST (*.TXT)

Don.

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Sent:   Wednesday, August 19, 1998 3:06 PM
Subject:        Re: 200lx to Office 97 conversion

Hi,

I just looked and saw that in Excel, Options that one can pre-define the
save format to i.e. WK1. Nice. But Word doesn't have this possiblility? One
has to do a SAVE AS?

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The application on my Windows 95 CDROM is TIMEXDL.EXE.  Here is a sample of it's TIMEXDL.DAT file.

Alarms
Alarm0=0(c)0000(c)09:00(c)Sample
Alarm1=0(c)(c)(c)
Alarm2=0(c)(c)(c)
Alarm3=0(c)(c)(c)
Alarm4=0(c)(c)(c)
SendEntries=False

Anniversary
AnnSortOption=SortByDate
AnnSendOption=SendNoData
AnnSendCriteriaOptionIndex=0
AnnTotal=1
Ann000=1994/05/01(c)Sample Birthday

Phone
PhoneSortOption=SortBySend
PhoneSendOption=SendNoData
PhoneTotal=1
P000=1(c)Burdell George(c)4045555555(c)H - Home(c)Sample entry

ToDoList
TodoSortOption=SortByPriority
TodoSendOption=SendNone
TodoPriority=5
TodoTotal=1
Todo000=1(c)Sample Task(c)1 - Highest

Timex Data Link
DataFileFormat=1

Appointments
ApptSortOption=SortByDate
ApptSendOption=SendApptData
ApptNotification=4
ApptNumDays=20
ApptTotal=3
Appt000=08/26/98(c)12:15(c)Test appt1
Appt001=08/31/98(c)06:15(c)Test appt2
Appt002=05/05/99(c)10:00(c)Test appt2

If you use Window 95 you might have this software on your CDROM.

Don.

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Sent:   Tuesday, August 18, 1998 10:42 PM
Subject:        Re: Timex Data Link Watch

I'm guessing that W95 must be the PC application for another variety of
the Datalink.  Mine specifically is the Ironman Triathlon with Datalink
and the software is Timexidl.exe.

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 11:56:50 EDT
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        At a recent computer expo (COMDEX), Bill Gates reportedly compared
the computer industry with the auto industry and stated:  "If GM kept up
with technology like the computer industry has, we would be driving $25 cars
that got 1000 miles to the gallon."
        In response to Bill's comments, General Motors issued a press
release stating:
"If GM had developed technology like Microsoft, we would all be driving cars
with the following characteristics:
1. For no reason whatsoever your car would crash twice a day.
2. Every time they repainted the lines on the road, you would have to buy a
new car.
3. Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason, and you
would just          accept this, restart and drive on.
4. Occasionally, executing a maneuver such as a left turn would cause your
car to shut       down and refuse to start, in which case you would have to
reinstall the engine.
5. Only one person at a time could use the car, unless you bought "Car95"
or "CarNT".        But then you would have to buy more seats.
6. Apple would make a car that was powered by the sun, reliable, five times
as fast, and         twice as easy to drive, but would only run on 5% of the
roads.
7. The oil, water temperature and alternator warning lights would be
replaced by a       single "general car default" warning light.
8. New seats would force everyone to have the same size butt.
9. The airbag system would say "Are you sure?" before deploying.
10. Occasionally for no reason whatsoever, your car would lock you out and
refuse            to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door
handle, turn the key, and       grabbed hold of the radio antenna.
11. GM would require all car buyers to also purchase a deluxe set of Rand
McNally               road maps (now a GM subsidiary), even though they
neither need them nor want them.         Attempting to delete this option
would immediately cause the car's performance             to diminish by 50%
or more.Moreover, GM would become a target for investigation by       the
Justice Department.
12. Every time GM introduced a new model, car buyers would have to learn how
to drive        all over again because none of the controls would operate in
the same manner as             the old car.
13. You'd press the "Start" button to shut off the engine.

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In a message dated 98-08-19 12:58:39 EDT, you write:

> anybody heard of a Portuguese dictionary for the HPLX to
>  Spanish, English, French or German ? Hal Goldstein offers the Collins in
>  four major Western languages, unfortunately without Portuguese.</div>
>  <div>Winfried</di

Was told there may be one of few in MS WORD.

yor pal al.............

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:40:16 -0400
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:28:43 -0500 (EST)

Both MODEMS are spoken for...Thank You.

Cheers,

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*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:21:25 -0500
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On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:59:29 -0500, Jeff Johns articulated...

>Has anyone had success running the freeware clock program on the S.U.P.E.R.
>site that puts a clock and battery indicator in the upper corner of the LX
>on a doublespeed machine? Whenever I try to run it, it freaks out my LX and
>forces me to do the <ctrl><alt><on> sequence to reset my unit. I'm wondering
>if the doublespeed driver might have something to do with it.

I have a doublespeed machine, and while it (CLK.COM) runs on the Palmtop, it
would occationally lock up the palmtop when placed in the Autoexec.BAT.
Wrapped it with some ECHO's to determine that.

That, and the fact that it left a garbled mess on graphics screens made me
decide to stop using it.  Also, it would be nice if the percentages were
customizable, ie:  minimum and maximum voltages.  My NiMH batteries never went
above 66%..  Otherwise, it was a pretty neat little program!

Hehe, I replaced my backup battery today and it's 3.22v.  My old one was
leaving an occational downward spike in BattLog that lead me to believe it was
pretty much dead.

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:38:38 -0500
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On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 10:06:53 -0400, hplx articulated...

>Just as a note, PE.EXE is compressed by diet by default, and is 54,385
>bytes, and loads in 2.38 s.

I used UNPack to decompress all files before analyzing.

>Why I got different sizes and times for pe.exe than Walter Francis, I don't
>know, except it appears we are using different versions of PE.EXE, and
>different versions of pklite.

Apparently I am using a different version of PE, as mine is 92798 bytes
uncompressed..  What version do you have, I have 2.0.  And the PKLite I have
is version 2.01 from the built-in help, although I think I listed it's version
from the version reported from UNP..  Oops.

>I don't know which version of diet was used to compress PE.EXE originally.

I'll be reposting my table, fixing my Diet times as they could be improved, as
I didn't use the Great SFX routine.

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 13:47:44 -0600
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              Owen Kalau <owenk@CANUCK.COM>
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Wierd. I don't use wwpack any more anyways. Some things it made would lock
up the system, and saving 2k here and there doesn't seem to be enough
reason to use it over diet (still my program of choice). Besides, I would
still have to keep something around to uncompress al those data files... =)


>On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 18:25:04 -0600, Owen Kalau articulated...
>
>>Whoah... now I have the same problem as when I was running bcom...
>>When I exit out of wwpack, my cursor in dos disappears.

>
>WWPack does the same crap to me too.. :)  I was constantly going into
>something else (pe for instance) and exiting to get my cursor returned.
>
>Not sure why this happens.
>
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:58:26 -0500
Reply-To:     Paul Knight <paul.knight@prairiecomm.com>
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Hi!  Anything greater than a "slim-to-none" chance that it might be
possible to download/sync info from the 200LX to a PalmPilot Pro?
They've both got serial ports...

Thanks,

Paul
paul.knight@prairiecomm.com

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 20:51:21 +0000
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              Mikhail Epelbaum <mepelbaum@ATTCANADA.NET>
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I notice that my newly minted 32 meg 200lx refuses to recognize the 8
meg memory in EXP card. Modem functions OK. I like to keep my
communication software where the modem is, so that I can move the whole
setup easily from one computer to another.

Drive F: on modem card is present when in a nonupgraded 200lx. But the
upgraded one already has an F:. Logically, one would expect the flash
to install as drive G:. But this does not happen. The two computers
have isentical config.sys, except for spd31ren.sys & RD32sys in an
upgraded computer.

Has anyone encountered such situation?

Mikhail

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:14:19 -0700
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              Bradley Johnson <BJohnson@PLATSOFT.COM>
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Hello all,

My 200lx now suffers from S.H.S. (squeaky hinge syndrome)

Does anyone know of a oil, silicone, teflon etc. that could safely be used
to lubricate the hinges on a HP200lx???

Thank you in advance.

Bradley Johnson
Sr. Systems\Software QA Engineer
> Corporate: 800-999-1809 / 949-453-4000
Tele            : 949-450-4452
E-mail  : bjohnson@platsoft.com
Call    : kd6epg

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 16:54:11 -0500
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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Hi,

I use trumpet valve oil.  Any music strore should have it.  It is a very
light machine oil.


Jon



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> From:         Bradley JohnsonSMTP:BJohnson@PLATSOFT.COM
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> Sent:         Thursday, August 20, 1998 4:14 PM
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> Subject:      Sqeaky hinges
>
> Hello all,
>
> My 200lx now suffers from S.H.S. (squeaky hinge syndrome)
>
> Does anyone know of a oil, silicone, teflon etc. that could safely be used
> to lubricate the hinges on a HP200lx???
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Bradley Johnson
> Sr. Systems\Software QA Engineer
> > Corporate: 800-999-1809 / 949-453-4000
> Tele            : 949-450-4452
> E-mail  : bjohnson@platsoft.com
> Call    : kd6epg
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 17:12:46 -0500
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              Hal <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<I notice that my newly minted 32 meg 200lx refuses to recognize the 8
meg memory in EXP card. Modem functions OK. I like to keep my
communication software where the modem is, so that I can move the whole
setup easily from one computer to another.>>

I assume you are using the swap driver so the 32 meg drive is C.  That
means your CONFIG.SYS is on F (which the system knows as C when you
originally boot).  Therefore, add the EXP device line to F:\CONFIG.SYS.
Depending on whether you put the EXP device line before or after the
swap device line, the EXP card and what is now F will either be F or G.

Hope that is clear.

- Hal at Thaddeus

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 22:41:43 GMT
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              "Dean L." <deanl@BIGFOOT.COM>
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On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:22:27 -0700, you wrote:



One of the main reasons that we have not checked your contest is that the=
 server is down at your end=20
and we do not have a response from you......
That is the message we get when we click on the "Contest" heading.

Dean L.
W5GXL


>Since a few of you have let me know that thinking of five 200LX "power
>users" would be impossible, I've decided to broaden the scope of the
>contest a little bit.  You can now do the five power users, like it says
>at my site (www.hplx.net) OR:
>
>You can send in what you think a good idea for the next contest would =
be.
>Extremely good contest ideas will be added to the selection for this =
round
>of prizes.  Top Five LX "Power Users" entries will still be accepted as
>well, of course.
>
>The prizes:
>
>First Place:
>8MB upgrade from Times2 Tech
>Speed upgrade from Times2 Tech
>WWW/LX Plus 2.0 from D&A Software
>$40 credit at Thaddeus Computing
>
>Second Place:
>8MB upgrade from Times2 Tech
>TimeTracker/LX from D&A Software
>$20 credit at Thaddeus Computing
>
>Third Place:
>Speed upgrade from Times2 Tech
>TimeTracker/LX from D&A Software
>$15 credit at Thaddeus Computing
>
>Fourth Place:
>ABC/LX from D&A Software
>
>Fifth Place:
>Volt/LX from D&A Software

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 20:37:53 EDT
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Hi
Does WORD have a Portuguese/Brazilian
spell checker/dictionary?

TIA
yor pal al............................

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 02:26:21 +0000
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> I assume you are using the swap driver so the 32 meg drive is C.  That
> means your CONFIG.SYS is on F (which the system knows as C when you
> originally boot).  Therefore, add the EXP device line to F:\CONFIG.SYS.
> Depending on whether you put the EXP device line before or after the
> swap device line, the EXP card and what is now F will either be F or G.

Thank you for the good advice, Hal...

Mikhail

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 02:26:27 +0000
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Now that all drives are in place, I notice another strange behaviour
(in a 32 meg doublespeed 200 LX). Sometimes, not all the time, the
purple function key stops working. This means no cut/paste, no page
down, etc. But at other times, it works. I can't seem to find any
variable that makes a difference.

When the key malfunctions, rebooting makes no difference.

Again, has anyone wxperienced something like this?

Mikhail

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 15:57:45 PDT
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> Does anyone have 'deltree.exe' & 'move.exe' for dos 5.0, or something
> equivalent? (Or know where I could get them...) The only ones I could =
find
> were for win95, and seem to do wierd things all the time.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Owen

If you want to delete directories and files in the HP and are stopped by =
some
of the fils having hidden/read only attributes, try this:

attrib -h -r -a -s

if you type this or write it to a batch file, it will change all the file=
s in the current
dir to no attributes. If you add /s it will process all lower directories=
.

You may then use the filer to highlight a directory with subdirs inside =
and simply
pres Del, F10 and they are gone!

I have a batch file attrib -h -r -a -s /s in my _dat dir, so I can in fil=
er go Menu, O,
D and be in dos in the dir I want to delete, type at (my batch file is =
at.bat) and
then e (exit in a batch file) and I am back in filer ready to slaughter =
all those re-
calcitrent (?) files

HTH

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 21:48:20 -0700
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Folks,


I was at my daughter's work tonight waiting for her. (17 y/o w/ pt job). I
wandered the store and my eye was caught by some Dilbert stuff.

Turned out to be metal business cards cases.  They had 5 different type 2
dilbert and 3 others. At at $19.95 4 of the 5 fit my 8 meg pcmcia Flash
Ram ata card perfectly. One of the 4 holds 2 cords very nicely. Of the 4
that fit all are strong metal. The one that fit 2 cards has a nice
internal spring bar to hold even one card in place nicely. All are MUCH
stronger that the plastic case I use now.

The store is one of those Mall shops that engraves things. Called "Things
remembered"
The Dilbert ones have a business card inside stating "Colibri Card
Master".

So if you need a nice stong case for your extra Ram card or modem, tell
them you heard about it from Beth at the Lloyd Center Store in Portland
Or.

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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I have installed a foreign dictionary on my HP200LX that can be obtained
free at the following URL. It has French, German, Italian, Spanish,
English and Portuguese. You can install as many or as few of the
languages as you want/need/have room for. It works quite well, but I am
still looking for something with more words. If I remember right this
one has 30,000 or 40,000 words / language and takes about 5 Megs /
language.

http://www.windi7.com/wdhome.htm

Bob


In a message dated 98-08-19 12:58:39 EDT, you write:

> anybody heard of a Portuguese dictionary for the HPLX to
>  Spanish, English, French or German ? Hal Goldstein offers the Collins in
>  four major Western languages, unfortunately without Portuguese.</div>
>  <div>Winfried</di

Was told there may be one of few in MS WORD.

yor pal al.............

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 22:17:13 -0700
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Subject:      200lx software versions

Whats the difference between 1.01a and 1.02a?

-Tim
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> Now that all drives are in place, I notice another strange behaviour
> (in a 32 meg doublespeed 200 LX). Sometimes, not all the time, the
> purple function key stops working. This means no cut/paste, no page
> down, etc. But at other times, it works. I can't seem to find any
> variable that makes a difference.
>
> When the key malfunctions, rebooting makes no difference.
>
> Again, has anyone wxperienced something like this?
>
> Mikhail
>
Yes, after I replaced my crystal. After mashing (southern term for =
pressing
really hard - I'm not saying to do this, though) the key for a couple =
weeks
it fixed itsself. Others have reported keyboard glitches after doing
upgrades and the things to check are if the torx bolts under the rubber =
feet
are tight enough - tricky if you didn't do the upgrade and so don't have =
the
right tool. Mine, though, just started working fine after a while.

Darren.

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1998 22:51:34 -0700
Reply-To:     Jose Sabas <jvsabas@itsa.ucsf.edu>
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From:         Jose Sabas <jvsabas@ITSA.UCSF.EDU>
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> OK Buddy wizards,

> Where is the setting in Buddy for double entering doc files in filer,
> and having them open in Memo?

> Now when I do it, Memo opens but the file does not appear.

Tim,

Are you using a custom font, i.e. andrewsfont, helvetica, etc.?  On *some*
machines, like my 100LX, a few Buddy features are disabled when using
other fonts. If you do have a custom font loaded, try rebooting the
machine with the built-in font instead.  Then try double entering a doc
file in filer.  If Buddy works, then it will confirm the cause.  If so,
you may want to experiment with other fonts to find one that won't
interfere with Buddy.  I've found that lxfont works well.  I've yet to
find a sans serif type that will work with Buddy on my palmtop.

HTH,

Jose

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> Sometimes, not all the time, the purple function key stops working.
> This means no cut/paste, no page down, etc. But at other times, it =
works.
> I can't seem to find any variable that makes a difference.

I had similar problems. It turned out to be a bad keyboard
connection. If the problem occurs again, just put some pressure
on your case in the lower right corner, where 0.=3D+ is located.
If this solves your problem, you first should check, if the
screws of your case are loose. Fix them and the problem should
go away. If the screws are fix, you might have to open your
palmtop and clean the keyboard connector cable. However this is
not simple and you should do it only, if you know how to open
the palmtop. The speed upgrade comes with a detailed
explanation.

I found out, that the 32MB upgrade, which sits just under the
number block, adds a little 'belly' to the keyboard and could
be the reason for a bad keyboard connection, which works on
pressure between the case and the motherboard.

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:07:41 -0700
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>
> Date:    Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:14:19 -0700
> From:    Bradley Johnson <BJohnson@PLATSOFT.COM>
> Subject: Sqeaky hinges
>
> Hello all,
>
> My 200lx now suffers from S.H.S. (squeaky hinge syndrome)
>
> Does anyone know of a oil, silicone, teflon etc. that could safely be used
> to lubricate the hinges on a HP200lx???
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Bradley Johnson
> Sr. Systems\Software QA Engineer
> > Corporate: 800-999-1809 / 949-453-4000
> Tele            : 949-450-4452
> E-mail  : bjohnson@platsoft.com
> Call    : kd6epg
>

Hi Bradley & listers,

        I use Tamiya's Ceramic Grease # 8725-400 and it works very well, for
best results remove the two plastic caps on the sides before applying
the product and use it sparingly. You can buy it at any good hobby
store, cost is about $4.00/$6.00.

Regards,

Carlos Rogerio M. Levy
Electronics Engineer
E-mail: crlevy@unisys.com.br
Call: PY1EGG

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 11:53:33 +0000
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> I had similar problems. It turned out to be a bad keyboard
> connection. If the problem occurs again, just put some pressure
> on your case in the lower right corner, where 0.=3D+ is located.
> If this solves your problem, you first should check, if the
> screws of your case are loose. Fix them and the problem should


Indeed, putting pressure on the right lower corner seems to improve the
situation. But how does one fix the screws? Is it something that a
non-computer-technician can do?

Mikhail

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:03:04 EDT
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Subject:      hexdump utility?

I'm looking for a tiny hexdump utility for use on the 200lx.  I found one
on http://www.shareware.com called htype.com (rnhtype.zip) that is
exactly what I want (small, screen output) but I can't get it to work on
the palmtop.

I run it and then the cursor just sits there blinking for as long as I
leave it.  Twice, it locked the machine though requiring me to remove the
batteries to stop it.

I just want a tiny (1-10K) utility that gives me the hex dump printed to
screen.  Any suggestions as to how to get htype to work or anyone have
suggestions for another option?

Larry Zimmerman

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:15:19 -0400
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I have a old dos utility that is called FM (file modifer) that runs on the
HP200LX and allows you to change or view hex files. Would you like a copy of
it?

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com

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> From: Larry Zimmerman SMTP:zimm4@JUNO.COM
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 1998 08:03
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      hexdump utility?
>
> I'm looking for a tiny hexdump utility for use on the 200lx.  I found one
> on http://www.shareware.com called htype.com (rnhtype.zip) that is
> exactly what I want (small, screen output) but I can't get it to work on
> the palmtop.
>
> I run it and then the cursor just sits there blinking for as long as I
> leave it.  Twice, it locked the machine though requiring me to remove the
> batteries to stop it.
>
> I just want a tiny (1-10K) utility that gives me the hex dump printed to
> screen.  Any suggestions as to how to get htype to work or anyone have
> suggestions for another option?
>
> Larry Zimmerman
>
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:25:30 -0400
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Hi all,

I have a pair of 33.6 modems, one is a Practical Periphals 336 data/fax
modem and the other is a CommWave. Both are PC card modems. I'd like to
do some trading to get one of the EXP 14.4 thinfax modems with extra
memory or a memory card of some sort.

let me know if you are interested.
--
73

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 07:48:34 -0500
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On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, David Lawrence wrote:

> > Does anyone have 'deltree.exe' & 'move.exe' for dos 5.0, or something
> >
> > Owen
>
> If you want to delete directories and files in the HP and are stopped by some
> of the fils having hidden/read only attributes, try this:
>
> attrib -h -r -a -s


Or you could use "attrib," ... a nifty undocumented method for
clearing all attributes.  I picked up this little trick right
here on HPLX-L a few months ago.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 05:49:28 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Thu, 20 Aug 1998, Tim S. wrote:

> Whats the difference between 1.01a and 1.02a?

I don't know if that information is posted anywhere. The FAQ only describes
the differences between the ROM versions for the 100LX, while the 200LX ROM
versions only show the dates and serial numbers, but no details (at bottom):

Q: What are the various ROM revisions?
A: (incomplete list of bugfixes/features, need help here)
The ROM versions are listed here with the earliest known serial number
prefix containing that ROM.  For example, the SG342 by 100LX ROM
version 1.04a means that it was introduced around the 42nd week of
1993.  There may be a few weeks' time when the two different ROM
versions were being manufactured simultaneously.  See the description
of what's encoded in the serial number, below, for more details on
decoding the serial numbers.  E-mail the editor if you have an earlier
serial number with a given ROM version.
***100LX ROM VERSIONS***
Ver.  Ser.#   Comments
1.01a SG3??   Original version.  Some were eproms
1.02a SG325   Infected by the HEU bug
1.03a SG336   HEU (sHift kEy bUg) fixed, speed up for carry-forward todos.
1.04a SG342   Last ROM version prior to 2MB Model.  Does not need
                FS.COM that comes on the CPACK disk for the redirector.
1.05a SG351   Added support for 2MB
1.06a SG412   Final 100LX version.  Some cc:Mail bugs fixed.  Found on
                latest 2MB units, and on some 1MB models.
At least one user reported a dramatic (2x) speedup in the calendar
app monthly view when updating from 1.02a to 1.04a.
***200LX ROM VERSIONS***
Ver.  Ser.#
1.00a SG425
1.01a SG430
1.02a SG442
Q: How do I determine which ROM version I have?
A: Reboot the machine (cntl-alt-del) and watch the screen.

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On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Mikhail Epelbaum wrote:

> Now that all drives are in place, I notice another strange behaviour
> (in a 32 meg doublespeed 200 LX). Sometimes, not all the time, the
> purple function key stops working. This means no cut/paste, no page
> down, etc. But at other times, it works. I can't seem to find any
> variable that makes a difference.
> When the key malfunctions, rebooting makes no difference.
> Again, has anyone wxperienced something like this?

It's most likely a key failure.  Sometimes the keys get a little soggy and
don't contact with a regular press-- sometimes you really have to push
them down hard to get it to work.  Try doing a keyboard test, or try using
the Fn key and see how hard you have to press to get it to show up.  The
good news is, if it IS a key failure, they're usually completely fixable
by cleaning out under the contact pad.

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Another case can be found at most dive shops (SCUBA).  Hard plastic,
watertight to at least the sport depth "limit" of 100 ft, removable neck
lanyard.  They come in sizes ranging from one PC card up to 4 or 5.  I
don't recall the manufacturer at this time but the name stamped in the
plastic (inside the lid) is "WITZ".

>-----Original Message-----
>From:  Patrick West SMTP:pccare@TELEPORT.COM
>Sent:  Thursday, August 20, 1998 11:48 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Case for PCMCIA card(s)
>
>Folks,
>
>I was at my daughter's work tonight waiting for her. (17 y/o w/ pt job). I
>wandered the store and my eye was caught by some Dilbert stuff.
>
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Hi all,

My friend's HP200LX (DoubleSpeed/6MB) "refused" to start.  As the last effort,
he hard reset the unit with Ctrl+Shift+On.

The unit finally turned on but the screen was garbled.  He then took it to HP
Service Center.  They unplugged the memory chip (it was Times2 Tech PC4MB 4MB
200LX REV 2 4L chip) and the unit runs perfectly on DoubleSpeed/2MB
configuration.

Questions: Does the T2T DS/6MB unit need special driver in order to get proper
display?  Is there a way to test the T2T memory chip?

TIA.

Sentot

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Look on the SUPER site for a thing called "BIN2HEX".  It's a program for
transforming any file to an editable text file.  Also included is
"HEX2BIN" which will transform the text file (after you modify it, if
you like) back into a binary file.  The entire collection including a
text file explaining the two programs is 12970 bites. (bin2hex = 5534,
hex2bin = 5791, and hex2bin.txt = 1645).

>-----Original Message-----
>From:  Larry Zimmerman SMTP:zimm4@juno.com
>Sent:  Friday, August 21, 1998 7:03 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       hexdump utility?
>
>I'm looking for a tiny hexdump utility for use on the 200lx.
><snip>

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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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Sorry for sending this to the whole list.

David, email sent to david@hplx.net bounces back with the message "we do
not relay."

I was unable to submit an entry for your contest.  I suspect others have
had the same problem.

J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:52:54 -0500
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Just an addition to this thread.  Timex sells a serial IR transmitter that
is designed to work with laptops and the Data Link Watch.  I would like to
see a program that would be able to interface this device to the HP200LX.
Any takers on this challenge?
Jim J.
Carmel, IN





Mike Goggin <mikeg@WANS.NET> on 08/19/98 12:42:03 AM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
      respond to Mike Goggin <mikeg@WANS.NET>

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:
Subject:  Re: Timex Data Link Watch




I'm guessing that W95 must be the PC application for another variety of
the Datalink.  Mine specifically is the Ironman Triathlon with Datalink
and the software is Timexidl.exe.  The help files for it only discuss
importing phone entries - which closely resembles the phone info you
included.

It maintains a separate file (alarm.dat) for appointments and it
appears to be a simple format.  I can tell what the fields are based
upon the contents.  Because of this, if I could build a file like it, I
could replace the file and then start the Datalink program.

After pondering a while today, I realized that I can extract 1 day's
appointments by printing to a file using a Datacard format.  With this,
I suspect I can write a Basic program to convert the print file to 1
that the Datalink will accept.

Thanks for the reply.
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From:   Donald Collins SMTP:dcollins@TRENDX.COM
Sent:   Tuesday, August 18, 1998 10:37 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: Timex Data Link Watch

I found in the W95 help file for the Timex Datalink application (comes
with W95) information on importing using a CSV file.
Hope this helps.

Don

For Appointments:


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=B7     There must be at least 3 fields.
=B7     First field must contain the message, or description of the
entry; the first 15 characters will be imported.
=B7     Second field must contain the date, in one of the following
formats: 3/6/94, 03-06-94, 3-6-94, Mar-6-94, 6 March 1994, or "March 6,=

1994".
=B7     Third field must contain the time, in one of the following
formats: 2:24 PM, 2:24PM, 14:24, 0:00:00, 12:00:00 AM.

For Anniversaries, there must be at least two fields; the first must be=

the description, and the second the date, in the formats noted above.
For To-Do Lists, there must be at least two fields; the first must be
the description, and the second must be a number between 1 and 5. (If
the second field contains anything other than a number between 1 and 5,=

a 3 will be entered.)
For Phone Numbers:

=B7     There must be at least three fields.
=B7     The first and second must contain first name and last name (or
last and first, or last and an empty field); they will be read in the
order presented.  You should have the names in the order you prefer for=

sorting on first name or last name.
=B7     The third must be a phone number, containing up to 12 character=
s,
which must be numbers, dashes, or parentheses.
=B7     If the fourth and succeeding fields are also phone numbers, the=
y
will also be read into the database as separate listings, with the
name(s) repeated.  All phone number types are set to None; you can
enter the Timex Data Link database after the import and change these to=

H, W, F, P or C.


-----Original Message-----
From:   Mike Goggin SMTP:mikeg@WANS.NET
Sent:   Sunday, August 16, 1998 9:54 PM
Subject:        Timex Data Link Watch

I just bought a Timex Data Link watch and wondered if there are any
tools, shareware, tips, etc on getting the info from my 200LX to it
without having to reenter it in the Timex software.

The main issue would be extracting 1 day's appointments and formatting
it for the Timex.

I didn't find any mention of Timex on the S.U.P.E.R. site, so any help
would be welcome.

Mike Goggin
Round Rock, TX

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 13:06:49 -0400
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              "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
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FM.com is a 10k file that will let you see and
modify binary files (exe or com). It has built in
help feature and instructions on how to modify
it. It is freeware. I will send a copy to SUPER

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Drummond SMTP:phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 1998 12:13 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: hexdump utility?
>
> Look on the SUPER site for a thing called "BIN2HEX".  It's a program for
> transforming any file to an editable text file.  Also included is
> "HEX2BIN" which will transform the text file (after you modify it, if
> you like) back into a binary file.  The entire collection including a
> text file explaining the two programs is 12970 bites. (bin2hex = 5534,
> hex2bin = 5791, and hex2bin.txt = 1645).
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:  Larry Zimmerman SMTP:zimm4@juno.com
> >Sent:  Friday, August 21, 1998 7:03 AM
> >To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> >Subject:       hexdump utility?
> >
> >I'm looking for a tiny hexdump utility for use on the 200lx.
> ><snip>
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On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, James P. Grenert wrote:

> Sorry for sending this to the whole list.
> David, email sent to david@hplx.net bounces back with the message "we do
> not relay."
> I was unable to submit an entry for your contest.  I suspect others have
> had the same problem.

The namservers for my domain are going berserk and causing all sorts of
errors for people.

For now, if you have anything to submit or need to contact me, use
david@ipair.com instead.

I hope to have these problems resolved this weekend.

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 11:41:37 -0700
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              Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
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Folks,

There are several used software places on the net

www.echosoftware.com
has ms works for dos, lotus agenda 1.0
writer's workshop, others

www.daytonsoftware.com
ms works dos, others,

www.softwaresequels.com
many titles including a copy of Act! for Windows 2.0 (for $74.99)

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 15:18:43 +0100
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              Ian Melville <imelv@TSTT.NET.TT>
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For Sale:       English 200LX 2Mb (Serial# SG51900159) - Defective.
                Unit being sold For Parts.

This unit is in excellent condition and doesn't have "the crack" nor any
screen, keyboard, or other such defects. The unit suddenly stopped working
completely, dead as a post and all attempts to revive it have failed. The
strange thing about this problem is that leaving the unit for a few hours
with all the batteries yanked then replacing both main and backup batteries
usually gets it going again and it works normally but.... it's again dead as
a post the following day! The details i've given are all that were passed to
me by the owner who has already decided to replace it with a brand-new unit
so please remember folks... i won't be attempting a fix as this unit is
already consigned to the scrapyard! It is possible i believe (with some
careful troubleshooting and know-how) to return this unit to active duty but
that is a task for the surgeons among us. <g>

I have been asked by the owner to entertain bids for the sale of the unit
(english manual included). Interested persons: *Please Do Not Send Bids To
This List* - send to: ianmel@bigfoot.com

        Opening bid is US $50.00

I will gather all bids and post the results of the highest bid received in
about two weeks (on 7-Sep) to this list.

Regards,

Ian C. Melville
imelv@tstt.net.tt

FRONTLINE MARKETING AGENCIES
Trinidad, West Indies
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 15:44:53 -0400
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Help! I've been trying to get GP to run on my 200lx but it fails to
negotiate the PPP session.

I've been in touch with the author regarding this problem but I don't
think it is a GP problem, more like my ISP doesn't like the PPP driver.

The debug version shows the PPP driver sending requests but not getting
acknowledgements back from my ISP.

Anyone else run into this problem? It is the same with my 200lx and
700lx.
--
73

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 16:05:15 -0400
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              Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
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The DELTREE.EXE from DOS 6.2 seems to work in my HP200LX
without complaint.

Steve

------------------------------

From:    Owen Kalau <owenk@CANUCK.COM>
Subject: dos tool type stuff

Does anyone have 'deltree.exe' & 'move.exe' for dos 5.0, or something
equivalent? (Or know where I could get them...) The only ones I could find
were for win95, and seem to do wierd things all the time.

Thanks in advance.

Owen

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 17:31:14 EDT
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I installed the w???? and got dozens of files.
what file(s) specifically?
How many of what kind constitute one language?

Its big and a lot.

Is this a spell checker or more like a dictionary?

yor pal al..............

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 18:13:06 -0400
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>I have a pre-SUPER version that I occasionally run on my 6mb/2x LX. It's=

>907 bytes long, and doesn't seem to give me any problems the few times
>I've used it.

I am in contact with Jeff. He seems to be running 9-10 TSR's before my
CLKB, so there are plenty of chances that one or more have started
fighting. What probably is happening is that another TSR is grabbing the
same keyboard interrupt. Sometimes it helps to load the TSR's in a
different order.

I have sent Jeff a more limited version that does not use the keyboard
interrupt at all to see if that helps.

>I have a doublespeed machine, and while it (CLK.COM) runs on the
>Palmtop, it would occationally lock up the palmtop when placed in the
>Autoexec.BAT. Wrapped it with some ECHO's to determine that.

Same answer.

>That, and the fact that it left a garbled mess on graphics screens made
>me decide to stop using it.

Eh??? In what way? If you are talking about the tiny stuff in the top
hand corner, you can turn the display off by holding down the Right-Ctrl
and at the same time press the Right-Shift key. I run the program on my
six computers, and have never found it necessary to turn the display
off. It may be possible to switch to graphics mode on the LX - I haven't
tried.

>Also, it would be nice if the percentages were customizable, ie:
>minimum and maximum voltages.  My NiMH batteries never went above 66%..
>Otherwise, it was a pretty neat little program!

You should have told me as I asked for advice in the manual. :)

As described in the manual, I am mapping the values returned by the
palmtop 27 to (I think) 54 to a percentage between 0 and 100 (I try to
stick to 2 digits). The number is therefore an integer percentage of 3
volts as I assume that it is possible to get 3 volts from some
batteries(?); since starting measuring, I have never got more than about
2.88 volts out of my batteries so I may be wrong here. The 0% means that
the HP is about to give op and that is to me the important figure. It
would probably be more correct to say that the HP give up when there is
around 76% left, but then one has to remember that number.

Any opinion anyone?

This is the first I have heard about problems with CLKB. It is running
happily in a lot of computers (friends and the 6 I have). I suggest that
anyone having experienced problems email me directly (please include
your autoexec.bat) so I can take a look at it.

Jorgen

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 15:27:53 -0700
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On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:

> As described in the manual, I am mapping the values returned by the
> palmtop 27 to (I think) 54 to a percentage between 0 and 100 (I try to
> stick to 2 digits). The number is therefore an integer percentage of 3
> volts as I assume that it is possible to get 3 volts from some
> batteries(?); since starting measuring, I have never got more than about
> 2.88 volts out of my batteries so I may be wrong here. The 0% means that
> the HP is about to give op and that is to me the important figure. It
> would probably be more correct to say that the HP give up when there is
> around 76% left, but then one has to remember that number.

For what it's worth, maybe there should be an option for battery type--
alkalines will start out at right around 3 volts, whereas NiMH or NiCd
batteries will be more like 2.6-2.7 volts at the start and quickly go down
to 2.4-2.5, where they stay for most of their life.  Lithium batteries, on
the other hand, start out at 3.3 volts (the maximum the palmtop can
measure) and stay there for a while!  :)

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              Curtis Brown <curtisb@OPTIMUS-CORP.COM>
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Greetings fellow LXers,

I am one of the many people who bought one of those NECX cards and,
in
an effort to make a contribution to this list, I went to look and see
exactly what this card is. I don't know if this is common knowledge
already. If so, I apologize in advance. From what I can gather, it is
made by SCM Microsystems and called the SwapBox Lite Bootable, model#
SBI-C1B. There's a web page with a complete description at
http://www.scmmicro.com/products/pccadap/lite.htm .

I fired off two emails to the sales people for a confirmation.
However,
the person who kept replying back seemed very hestitant
about helping me. Anyway, below are the two replies that I received.
The
replies are quoting the entire text that I originaly sent.

===BEGIN MESSAGE #1====================================
Subject: RE: needing adapter card info
Date:    Thu, 20 Aug 1998 08:59:37 -0700
From:    David Putnam <dputnam@scmmicro.com>
To:      'Curtis Brown' <curtisb@optimus-corp.com>

Curtis,

On our website (www.scmmicro.com) you will find the information you
need.  There is not much to the hardware, just plug it in and it
should
work.

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Curtis Brown mailto:curtisb@optimus-corp.com
Sent: Monday, August 17, 1998 1:18 PM
To: adapter@scmmicro.com
Subject: needing adapter card info


I have just recently acquired what I believe is a PCMCIA adapter card
made by SCM. I am curious to know if there is any infomration or
documentation for this card.

Description: This is a 16-bit ISA card for PC/AT computers and seems
to support Tpye III PCMCIA devices. The only information etched on
the card itself is this:

(c) 1996 SCM GmbH
    SMMMCDR31
    KCE WV-0 94V-0 F1

Thank you for your time in advance. Any information is greatly
appreciated.

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  software engineer        fax: +1.970.226.3464
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Subject: RE: needing adapter card info
Date:    Fri, 21 Aug 1998 14:53:15 -0700
From:    David Putnam <dputnam@scmmicro.com>
To:      'Curtis Brown' <curtisb@optimus-corp.com>

Curtis,

The card you have seems to be SCM.  For some reason I cannot track
that
exact revision in my files.  To confirm it is bootable, there should
be
a flash chip on the card or the drive.

For information on how to use the boot function you need to read the
section on the website which refers to the booting option.  The web
page
is http://www.scmmicro.com/techsup/boot.htm.

Let me know how this helps.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Curtis Brown mailto:curtisb@optimus-corp.com
Sent: Friday, August 21, 1998 7:34 AM
To: David Putnam
Subject: Re: needing adapter card info


David Putnam wrote:
>
> Curtis,
>
> On our website (www.scmmicro.com) you will find the information you
> need.  There is not much to the hardware, just plug it in and it
should
> work.

David,

Forgive me, but I looked at your web pages (again) and I still cannot
find the information I'm looking for.

The card I have seems to closely match the description of your
SwapBox Lite SBI-C1B model. The card I have has a rear access and a
single slot. However, according to the description on the page
http://www.scmmicro.com/products/pccadap/lite.htm , there is no
information on how the 'bootable' version boots. I can only assume
that it might use some sort of EPROM socket like those of bootable
network cards. The card I have, though, has no such socket, but
rather two sets of what appears to be IDE connectors. Are these in
fact IDE interfaces? Are they custom? As a developer and part-time
hardware hacker, I am very curious to know. There are no pictures (or
prices) on your web pages for me to make any reasonable assumptions
to say that what I have _is_ that card. Again, here is what little
information is printed on the card:

(c) 1996 SCM GmbH
    SMMMCDR31
    KCE WV-0 94V-0 F1

I don't know if the number SMMMCDR31 is a model number, or if somehow
it correlates with model number SBI-C1x. I would like clarification
on that.


I beg for your patience in my request. I would like to know if you
have any information on the particular card I have, if this is indeed
made by SCM. I realize you are a busy person and hope you would be
willing to fulfill my humble request. I greatly appreciate your time
and effort in advance.

-Curtis

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--= Curtis Brown =-------curtisb@optimus-corp.com-----------
 Optimus Corporation       www.optimus-corp.com
  software engineer        fax: +1.970.226.3464
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=====END MESSAGE #2====================================

In my second message, I ment to be somewhat pushy, mostly because I
wanted to make clear that I wasn't finding information on my own.

For whatever it's worth, I hope this knowledge helps someone.
Sorry about the long posting. Cheers! -Curtis
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--= Curtis Brown =-------curtisb@optimus-corp.com-----------
 Optimus Corporation       www.optimus-corp.com
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:44:12 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Hey that's great news
so simple to have tried it
Wonder what else works, hmmmmmmm

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 19:38:32 -0500
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Subject:      Weekend serendipidy

Greetings listers,

Let's make a deal, I have a
Toshiba T1200 rarely used laptop
with manuals for trade. I'm looking
for a 64MB flash card, give or take
a couple MB.

For an 80MB card, I'll throw in a
44/88 MB Syquest removable hard drive.
How about an old extra video or modem
for desktop too?

Semper Mobilis,
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 18:08:00 -0700
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www.daytonsoftware.com  does have  SOFTWARE CAROUSEL new for $8.50.  This
must be a different version than the one for the HPLX ??

Thanks
Barry

Patrick West wrote:

> Folks,
>
> There are several used software places on the net
>
> www.echosoftware.com
> has ms works for dos, lotus agenda 1.0
> writer's workshop, others
>
> www.daytonsoftware.com
> ms works dos, others,
>
> www.softwaresequels.com
> many titles including a copy of Act! for Windows 2.0 (for $74.99)
>
> Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
> PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
> Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 20:17:28 -0500
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Earlier today I tried to enter David's newest contest.  I just now checked
my email and discovered that the message bounced.  Anyone know what's wrong
or how to contact him?

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 18:26:13 -0700
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On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, John L. Stanley wrote:

> Earlier today I tried to enter David's newest contest.  I just now checked
> my email and discovered that the message bounced.  Anyone know what's wrong
> or how to contact him?

I'm still here, just having a heck of a time with my nameserver
configuration.  Any DNS gurus on this list?  <g>

In the meantime, use david@ipair.com to contact me.

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 23:37:30 EST
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Subject:      Re: NECX card info (long)

> Greetings fellow LXers,
>
> I am one of the many people who bought one of those NECX cards and,
> in
> an effort to make a contribution to this list, I went to look and see
> exactly what this card is. I don't know if this is common knowledge
> already. If so, I apologize in advance. From what I can gather, it is
> made by SCM Microsystems and called the SwapBox Lite Bootable, model#
> SBI-C1B. There's a web page with a complete description at
> http://www.scmmicro.com/products/pccadap/lite.htm .
>

This card is probably an older model that is no longer supported. It
may even have been a one off model for a another OEM. It is not
bootable but there is a unoccupied pad for the flash ram that they
use to make it bootable. The bootable version did not use an eprom
like NIC's do, it used a chunk of flash ram that you could configure
with supplied software to boot whatever os you wanted. Teh two "IDE"
connectors are not IDE, they are for a floppy bay mounted second
socket. I have a ministor pcmcia adaptor that has exactly the same
sort of connectors for its floppy bay socket. SCM probably made one
isa card and packaged it several different ways, one read slot, one
rear slot bootable, one rear and one front slot and maybe even one
rear and one front slot bootable. I haven't tried the drivers on
their site but I would be willing to bet that the drivers for the
single slot card they have on the web site will work with the ones we
have.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:45:41 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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> I'm looking for a tiny hexdump utility for use on the 200lx.
> I just want a tiny (1-10K) utility that gives me the hex dump printed to
> screen.

list.com (by V Buerg) is 8k and has an alt-H option for hex dump...

BUT it displays
on screen, rather than dumping to stdout, so you can't redirect it to
a file, so may not be what you want. No idea where I got it...

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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1998 05:10:20 -0400
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>For what it's worth, maybe there should be an option for battery type--
>alkalines will start out at right around 3 volts, whereas NiMH or NiCd
>batteries will be more like 2.6-2.7 volts at the start and quickly go do=
wn
>to 2.4-2.5, where they stay for most of their life.  Lithium batteries, =
on
>the other hand, start out at 3.3 volts (the maximum the palmtop can
>measure) and stay there for a while!  :)

That is what I needed to know! Thanks.
I'll implement that.

Jorgen

PS is there anything you do NOT know?

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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1998 07:57:48 -0500
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Does anyone on the list use MaxDOS? If you do, here's a question:

If you're running a program under MaxDOS and and one of your HP Appointment
entries causes an alarm (one beep under MaxDOS), are you able to continue
to operate your HP?

Mine is locked up tight (ctrl-shift-on time!). This does not seem related
to the program that I'm running under MaxDOS, but is probably due to
something that I've set up incorrectly. I'm running a T2T doublespeed, 5
meg machine.

Help!

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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1998 21:37:27 +0800
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi all

Has anyone done a comparison of Jam vs Stacker on size/speed?

TIA

Russell

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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1998 13:48:06 +0000
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> Check will ONLY run from Filer as Check.exe, but when I need to do some file fix,
> I get the above message.
>
> "check (null)  error, # 51"
>
> 5.Conclusion: I cannot repair the drive NOR remove the protection !
>

Maybe you don't have enough memory when you run straight from dos?

Terminate system manager and then try from a clean dos prompt.  Or
temporarily edit your autoexec.bat (on the stacked drive) and remove the
100/200 or sysmgr command or rem it out.  Then try running the stacker
tools from a dos prompt.

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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:33:53 +0800
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At 07:57 AM 22/08/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Does anyone on the list use MaxDOS? If you do, here's a question:
>
>If you're running a program under MaxDOS and and one of your HP Appointment
>entries causes an alarm (one beep under MaxDOS), are you able to continue
>to operate your HP?
Hi

Yes I do and am able to keep going.. I have the Upside down ? in the
comments field..  Maybe that will help

Russell

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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:34:02 +0800
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Hi All

I have my C: Jammed.. upon issuing the Jmax command I got an error message
right at the end..

Internal error reading clusters xxxx-xxxx.

The Doc file says  its caused by a physical error on the host drive and to
unmount and run Scandisk/NDD or some such.  I did this and ran NDD..No
errors found..

Running NDD on the Jammed drive resulted in a couple of read errors and
Write protect flags on C: for SOME files..  ie 3.

Is there anyone who knows what may have happened here? Anyone had similar
happenings?

Is there any command in Jam that may fix the error or am I destined to
Backup..I have done once today..delete Jam file and create new..  I tried
shrinking and all other commands on the Jam distribution..


Any ideas appreciated


TIA

Russell

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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:34:53 +0800
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At 05:49 AM 21/08/98 -0700, you wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Aug 1998, Tim S. wrote:
>
>> Whats the difference between 1.01a and 1.02a?


Hi all

I was wondering if there are any updated App manager versions from 1.1?
In App Manager ..Menu..Help..About..

If so what might differences be?

Russell

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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:42:57 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Hi,

As described in MaxDOS's documentation- use PlayEX which you also load in
your autoexec.bat. Now it will play your whole alarm sound when you are =
in
a MaxDOS session and I am sure it will not hang.

Jorgen


> If you're running a program under MaxDOS and and one of your HP Appointm=
ent
> entries causes an alarm (one beep under MaxDOS), are you able to =
continue
> to operate your HP?
>
> Mine is locked up tight (ctrl-shift-on time!). This does not seem =
related
> to the program that I'm running under MaxDOS, but is probably due to
> something that I've set up incorrectly. I'm running a T2T doublespeed, =
5
> meg machine.
>
> Help!
>

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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 00:51:06 +0800
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Just found this on the site

http://www.21store.co.uk/pdantic/index.htm

any idea if this could be made to work with
the HP200 IrDa port?

Or has this already been discussed <grin>

-------------- Start quote -----------
Ericsson SH888
It features a proper IrDA compatible Infrared port on the side (good
position for the cramped traveler in economy).  Point it at an active
port on any IrDA laptop or palmtop and it gets recognized as an SH888
clearly passing the IrDA 'discovery' test.
It is a dual band digital phone that automatically switches between
bands.  Supporting both the GSM 900 and GSM 1800 bands means you can
use this phone when stepping off the plane at well over a hundred
countries around the globe.  Featuring the latest voice Codex, the
SH888 already supports the new improved voice-quality features
gradually coming on-stream.
Unlike almost all other phones, the tiny SH888 incorporates the
co-called 'Data modem' whilst not really a modem in the traditional
sense of the word.  Modem has been adopted as a term that most
non-techies understand.  By managing to incorporate the entire product
into the phone, means not only that you negate the need to both buy
and configure the expensive external PC CARD Data Modem, but you don't
need to buy special interface leads.   Another point which is often
missed, you no longer need to occupy that PC CARD slot in your
Palmtop.  Nothing kills the operating time more on a palmtop or PDA
than asking it to run a thirsty PC CARD.
The SH888 offers the choice of data connection paths between itself an
the chosen PC, laptop, palmtop or PDA.  You can either point the IrDA
ports together or simply connect using the RS-232 serial lead as
supplied.
The supplied Ericsson CD ROM contains PC-based client software, the
all important modem.inf file so Windows can recognize the phone. You
also get both user and technical manuals in Adobe Acrobat format
together with a very nice menu system allowing easy install of any of
these items onto your laptop for easy reference at a later date.  They
even include (pretty rare this) a slick routine allowing you to make a
set of 3.5 floppy disk installation disks if needed.
If you needed proof that the Bluetooth proposals are valid, then
consider this lowly author.  I'm used to walking about whether I'm
wearing jeans or a suit, with my Palm III clipped on my right-hand
side, and my Nokia 6110 likewise clipped on my left-hand side.  At
this time, it is the closest I can get to a mobile office solution.
Replacing the 6110 with the SH888 as I did yesterday opens up a whole
new world of possibilities.  Firstly my coverage possibilities and
lower-rate billing options has just opened wide up as GSM 1800 such as
the Orange network is way cheaper than 900Mhz GSM.  Secondly I now
realize I'm carrying a complete Email send and receive station capable
of accessing my POP3 Email boxes both here and in the USA.  Added to
which software clients loaded onto my Palm III further enable me to
surf the web (SmartCode text based) send Fax's, and even directly
initiate POCSAG pages (Mark/Space).

I took my mother to lunch yesterday (dutiful son etc.) we're sat in
the garden area of the Alice Lisle pub in the New Forest whilst the
house peacock looked on hoping I'd slide it some scampi under the
table.

I pulled the phone off the belt, then the Palm III, plonked them on
the table and pointed them together, tapped a few check boxes on the
Palm III and I was logging into my POP3 mailbox interactively (thanks
to HandStamp Pro) deciding on which Emails to download.  I then
composed an Email to two friends in the US sending them my mothers
best wishes and promptly sent them.  No fuss, no errors and the people
at the next table barely showed a spark of interest because the two
components are sleek, small and near-silent save for a couple of muted
beeps.

Taking the above scenario to an RF-based PAN Personal Area
Network(BlueTooth) and I'd not even have had to remove the phone from
my belt thus making it a one-handed operation.  And in this comparison
I've barely scratched the surface of possibilities such as automatic
mailbox checking and notification etc.

If you are in Europe, have an Email account and think it would be,
nice, handy or downright vital to have no-brainer data access to
either your ISP or Corporate network, then the SH888 is the only
product for you. If you are using a CE-based Palm-size PC you'll be
pleased to know that they work right out of the box with the SH888,
well they do after you load a tiny support file off the supplied
Ericsson CD ROM.

Oh yes, and we all these hardware items in stock here at 21store.
Well you didn't think you were going to get away without a shameless
plug did you?

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Help
I wanted to get defrag installed on my HP to be able to defragment my C =
drive to install extended memory (emm300.exe), but the defrag from Dos =
Version 6.2 won't run on the HP with DOS 5.0.  Any ideas on that???

I've been trying to install an upgrade of Dos (version 6.2) in drive C: =
so that I could run the Dos 6.2, but can't seem to get it to work.  Any =
ideas on that???

I'm a budding student of DOS, but very inexperienced.  Please help.

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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Hi There,

There is a Japanese solution to this. Some years back when I was surfing
the Japanese HP Palmtop pages, I remember that I found a program (a TSR =
it
should be..) which made it possible to set my version of DOS without
installing that version. I mean I could set the palmtop DOS version to be
6.2 so I could run programs which would not run in DOS 5.0. A "ver" in a
DOS prompt gave version 6.2 (if I configured it as such). During that
time I didn't find it useful for my requirements. But today I would be
nice to have. However, I can't remember the name of the program or the
Japanese site. So maybe some other "surfer" could give us a direction?

Jorgen Wallgren


> Help
> I wanted to get defrag installed on my HP to be able to defragment my C
> drive to install extended memory (emm300.exe), but the defrag from Dos
> Version 6.2 won't run on the HP with DOS 5.0.  Any ideas on that???
>
> I've been trying to install an upgrade of Dos (version 6.2) in drive C:
> so that I could run the Dos 6.2, but can't seem to get it to work.  Any
> ideas on that???
>
> I'm a budding student of DOS, but very inexperienced.  Please help.
>
> Chuck Sutherland

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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:55:07 -0700
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BTW - A 700LX works great in Europe with a docked Orange phone.  I'm
moving between my friends 700LX with docked Orange phone, and my usual
100LX with Ethernet on his home NAT.  Using GP of course.. (another
shameless plug)  :-)


On 08-22 09:51am, you wrote:
snip
> new world of possibilities.  Firstly my coverage possibilities and
> lower-rate billing options has just opened wide up as GSM 1800 such as
> the Orange network is way cheaper than 900Mhz GSM.  Secondly I now



Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.20beta) REGISTERED

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In a message dated 98-08-22 13:44:56 EDT, you write:
>  Help
>  I wanted to get defrag installed on my HP to be able to defragment my C
> drive to install extended memory (emm300.exe), but the defrag from Dos
> Version 6.2 won't run on the HP with DOS 5.0.  Any ideas on that???
>
Premero: Use ACE/Sunshine defrag.  It comes with ACE or Carousel.

Listers: I have used MOVE and DELTREE from MS DOS V6.2 with LX
DOS V.5.0 wit no apparent problems.  Seems to woik like a charm.
Seems like other utils as XCOPY will work too.

yor pal al................ Happy weakend..................

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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1998 12:50:45 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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For anybody looking for a 200LX . Just found this one for on the NG

--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: rmantha@umich.edu (Ramesh Mantha)
Subject: FS: 200LX
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:37:23 GMT

I have a 200LX in good condition* for sale..
* except two minor
1. Latch is a bit loose
2. Battery case doesnt cover properly
Other than the above two issues, it is a good palmtop
and works great.

$150



I also have a SANDISK 5Meg FLASH Card PCMCIA for sale
$75

email if interested

-RM

--- end of forwarded message ---




Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.1.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:41:45 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      New week, new subject

Now that we all have a very good idea
of what crunch utility we like from
the gigantic debate in the last two
weeks, a new topic emerges.

What in your opinion and experience do
you think is the best battery utility
and of course, why?

Which ones are even being used?

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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I have the gcc source for a freeware Verilog simulator (simulates
electronics circuits) and I want to compile it for DOS so that I can
use it on my 200LX.  Unfortunately, the only DOS machine that I have
access to is my palmtop (which doesn't have enough memory to install
gcc).  Would anyone out there be willing to compile it for me?  If so
reply to me in e-mail and I can give you the source.

Maybe even better: does anyone use a Verilog simulator on their
palmtop that they could point me towards?

Mike Hendricks

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I have two (2) new, never opened SanDisk 15MB Compact Flash memory cards
with PC card adapters for sale.  These are in factory sealed cartons,
the shrink wrap has never been broken.  I am using one in my HP200lx and
it works great.  I am asking $120.00 for each card plus $4.00 shipping.
I can accept Visa, Mastercard, Discover  or AMEX through my craft
business, or checks and money orders..

Please reply with private email to jguenther@loudoun.com or
jguenthe@nafis.fp.trw.com.

John Guenther

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On Sat, 22 Aug 1998 12:35:47 -0500, "Charles E. Sutherland" <sutherla@SWBE=
LL.NET> wrote:

> Help
> I wanted to get defrag installed on my HP to be able to defragment my C
> drive to install extended memory (emm300.exe), but the defrag from Dos
> Version 6.2 won't run on the HP with DOS 5.0.  Any ideas on that???

Hi Chuck,

Guess what I found while checking the drive D: on my Omnbook 300.

Yeap! Thats right defrag for DOS 5.0. (:-)

Drop me a line and I'll send you a copy.

BTW: emm300.exe where did you get that from?


Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.1.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1998 17:38:45 -0500
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<<www.daytonsoftware.com  does have  SOFTWARE CAROUSEL new for $8.50.
This
must be a different version than the one for the HPLX ??>>

It is unlikely they have the HPLX version, although, of course, it is
possible. The PC version won't run on the HP Palmtop. The LX version was
a significant rewrite.

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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1998 19:15:22 EDT
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Mike,

Hare I am at AOL, just reply with the stuff.
and instructions on what to do and how do I do it.

going to dinner, be back in awhile.

BTW: it ain't gonna blow up my machine is it :)
What's this thing surpose to do when it's done?

yor pal al......................

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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1998 19:38:34 -0400
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              Michael Stocker <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
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BATSET

The price is right.  And, you just set and forget.

Michael Stocker
e-mail: mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
home page: http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm

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| What in your opinion and experience do
| you think is the best battery utility
| and of course, why?
|
| Which ones are even being used?
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1998 19:48:04 -0400
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Hello,

I have a 200lx 2meg unit with Ace 6meg card, Thin Fax modem 33.6 with 8meg memory.
Also InfoBase CD's 1997,1998.  Ace software Magnify, Fax etc.
All manuals.

A 600c Omnibook 50MHZ  540 harddrive, modem card 28. All orginal
software on disk.

Would like to trade or sell both units. Please make me an offer!!!!


Pete



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Shore Systems has the same item(s) - actually CF16MB - for $104 delivered
worldwide. Sandisk products have a 1 year warranty, while ours has a five
year warranty. VISA/MC/AMEX welcome.

-----Original Message-----
From:   HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU On Behalf Of John
Guenther
Sent:   22 August, 1998 15:39
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Compactflash ram cards for sale.

I have two (2) new, never opened SanDisk 15MB Compact Flash memory cards
with PC card adapters for sale.  These are in factory sealed cartons,
the shrink wrap has never been broken.  I am using one in my HP200lx and
it works great.  I am asking $120.00 for each card plus $4.00 shipping.
I can accept Visa, Mastercard, Discover  or AMEX through my craft
business, or checks and money orders..

Please reply with private email to jguenther@loudoun.com or
jguenthe@nafis.fp.trw.com.

John Guenther

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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:54:27 GMT
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Subject:      palmtop circuit

Palmtop Circuit is a circuit design program specifically designed
for the 200LX. Has anyone used it? Does anyone know where to get
a copy? TIA:)

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I've used ABC/LX and Batset and like ABC/LX. The advantage is you
really can install NiMH batteries and forget about them. Just set the
program up and it will start charging the batteries whenever they are
low. If it has
one disadvantage it is it doesn't charge continously longer than 16
hours on the fast charge which can be a pain for higher capacity
batteries. But then the higher capacity batteriers take so long to
charge anyway I, personsonally, don't find much of an advantage to
them. Anything which takes longer that 8 or ten hours which is overnight
for me is too long. Hope Mack is still working on increasing the charging current!



In message  <19980825.164200.5006.15.hobchi@juno.com>, hobchi@JUNO.COM said:
> Now that we all have a very good idea
> of what crunch utility we like from
> the gigantic debate in the last two
> weeks, a new topic emerges.
>
> What in your opinion and experience do
> you think is the best battery utility
> and of course, why?
>
> Which ones are even being used?
>
> Semper Mobilis,
> yor pal al :) .............
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On 08-22 05:54pm, the following was written:

> Palmtop Circuit is a circuit design program specifically designed
> for the 200LX. Has anyone used it? Does anyone know where to get
> a copy? TIA:)

Let me/us know if you find the software or a source for it. It would be a
welcome addition to my 200LX.

73 Jeff KF4KGQ


    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain      |
    |    Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1)     | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept |
    | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet  |     QTH Birmingham, AL USA      |
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Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.19beta) REGISTERED

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In a message dated 98-08-22 19:38:55 EDT, you write:

>  BATSET
>  The price is right.  And, you just set and forget.
>
How much?  From whom?
Does it tell you pwr values as yor using it?

yor pal al...................

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Subject:      PNS200 conflicts

For many months now I could not get PNS200 to work consistently in my 200
LX.  On clicking on a PIM file in filer, the PIM would start up (database,
notebook, etc) but with the file that was previously open in that
application.  That is it would not open the new datafile I had clicked on.

I had discovered a long time ago that if I disabled Buddy (Ctrl -), then
PNS 200 would work correctly but I was unwilling to do without BUDDY and
so I decided to live with a PNS that only worked correctly for certain
files but not others.

Today, while fooling around with it, I discovered that if I removed my
alternative font TSR (Helvsd, Andrew3, or similar) by "rem"ing it from my
autoexec.bat and rebooting the LX, then the PNS200 worked correctly.
Moving the font TSR to a different order in the autoexec.bat has not
allowed me so far to run both a font such as Helvsd and PNS200 correctly.

I am sure I am not the only one who is using an alternate font with PNS200
on an LX.  If so, what font does not conflict with PNS200 and where do you
have it in the autoexec.bat relative to BUDDY, PNS200, etc.  I also run
QuickLX, the letter completion TSR.

Thanks.


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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 12:35:56 +1000
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              Aug 23, 98 00:51:06 am
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> Just found this on the site
>        http://www.21store.co.uk/pdantic/index.htm
>
> ... It features a proper IrDA compatible Infrared port on the side ...
> Point it at an active port on any IrDA laptop or palmtop...

OK, *this* is cool. Solves many of the stupid problems:
        - a modem for a *digital* phone
        - power drain on palmtop
        - wires

But no price on the site for the ericsson SH888...


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Is there a way to get the characters on code page 437 instead of 850 in the
HP Solver?  I know it is the default in DOS mode, but can it be used for
the HP in general?  Thanks.
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At 08:09 PM 8/22/98 -0500, you wrote:
>On 08-22 05:54pm, the following was written:
>
>> Palmtop Circuit is a circuit design program specifically designed
>> for the 200LX. Has anyone used it? Does anyone know where to get
>> a copy? TIA:)
>

Palmtop Circuit is a commercial package made by Design Software, Inc.
(www.designsoftware.com). They list it under 'Other Products' on
their web page, but they don't have any other info on it, other than
the fact it was made for the 200lx. No pricing or anything.

John McDonald

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Listen listers,
Let's make a deal, I have a Toshiba
T1200 rarely used laptop with manuals
for trade. Good for library research,
kids notebook, etc.

I'm looking for a 64MB flash card,
give or take a couple MB.

For an 80MB card, I'll throw in an
old Desktop PC with HD, modem, 44/88 MB
Syquest removable hard drive.

Great for backup mode. Never know.
Great for the kids room.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............


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              Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
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Folks,

I've been using Reference manager 7 for Windows for Bibliography records.
Now that I have the palmtop I decided it would be nice to find a DOS
version of it that would run on my 200lx.

While doing a dejanews search I came across Papyrus.  It is a dos program
and the demo runs well on my palmtop.
All of its parts are seperate add on so I can keep a striped down version
on the 200lx and all the add ons on the desktop.

I just loaded it today so I'll let you know how it work. The demo has a 30
days trial period.

 e-mail: sales@rsd.com
 WWW: http://www.rsd.com



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> Unfortunately, the only DOS machine that I have access to is my
> palmtop (which doesn't have enough memory to install gcc).

I never considered gcc on the palmtop, for the memory reason. Also, it's
pretty inefficient in other ways (gnu: the "Microsoft of unix").

But I'd guess that the DOS version would require a 286 - ie not run on the
XT of a hp200lx, inefficiencies regardless.

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Comments: To: Hal <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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Hal -

On Thu, 20 Aug 1998, you wrote:

HG> I assume you are using the swap driver so the 32 meg drive is C. That
HG> means your CONFIG.SYS is on F (which the system knows as C when you
HG> originally boot).

I understand that this is the usual, recommended method of setting up a 32
meg upgraded machine (I haven't, yet).

WHY is this the recommended method, rather than leaving the 32 megs as
drive F: ?

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Hi Pete,

        Can you tell me more about your Omni Book and what would be a
reasonable price?  I'm not that savy to know what a 600C is.  Thanks.

Colin


>
> A 600c Omnibook 50MHZ  540 harddrive, modem card 28. All orginal
> software on disk.

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On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Phil Drummond wrote:

PD> Another case can be found at most dive shops (SCUBA).  Hard plastic,
PD> watertight to at least the sport depth "limit" of 100 ft, removable neck
PD> lanyard.  They come in sizes ranging from one PC card up to 4 or 5.

What does the dive shop think they are, or sell them as?

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All,

        Sorry for the extra message to the list on this subject.  I should have
been using WWW/LX instead of Windoze and Netscape.  Paying a little more
attention would have helped too!

Colin

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> For many months now I could not get PNS200 to work consistently in my 200
> LX.  On clicking on a PIM file in filer, the PIM would start up (database,
> notebook, etc) but with the file that was previously open in that
> application.  That is it would not open the new datafile I had clicked on.

Your problem is most likely that you are still relying on the PNS200 patch
function to open those files. It actually replaces the name of the last file
open in each application's ENV file with the filename you picked in Filer.
Problem is, it only works if you have the application closed. If you have
database open and pick another database, the one you have open will remain
open.

The way around this is to use keystuff to open them. For example, to get a
database open, you would first remove the line in the Patch section for the
database and then add a line similar to this to the Action section:

3=c:\bin\ks.com \C\$\9%k/

And up in the Menu section you would still have:

3=Database

This method of file opening is a bit slower, but you don't have to worry about
closing the app first.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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I have a couple of books for sale $10 each + shipping OBO:

   MSDOS 5.0 User's Guide and Reference from NEC
      Probably shipped orginally with a NEC computer, though seems to be
a
      standard version with no NEC specifics.  Excellent shape.

   Wordperfect 5.1 for DOS (Reference for IBM Personal Computers and PC
Networks)
      Appears to be an orginal reference manual for WP 5.1.  It is in
excellent
      shape except for creases on the back cover.

I also still have some Megahertz 14.4 X-Jack (XJ1144) PCMCIA modems for
sale.
For more information check out:
   http://www.telepath.com/pillar/xjack.html

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> On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Phil Drummond wrote:
> PD> Another case can be found at most dive shops (SCUBA).  Hard plastic,
> PD> watertight to at least the sport depth "limit" of 100 ft, removable neck
> PD> lanyard.  They come in sizes ranging from one PC card up to 4 or 5.

On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Jim Saklad wrote:
> What does the dive shop think they are, or sell them as?

What type of price?


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From:         John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: palmtop circuit

In message  <3.0.2.32.19980822224550.00acb140@ix.netcom.com>, johnmcd@ix.netcom.com said:
> At 08:09 PM 8/22/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >On 08-22 05:54pm, the following was written:
> >
> >> Palmtop Circuit is a circuit design program specifically designed
> >> for the 200LX. Has anyone used it? Does anyone know where to get
> >> a copy? TIA:)
> >
>
> Palmtop Circuit is a commercial package made by Design Software, Inc.
> (www.designsoftware.com). They list it under 'Other Products' on
> their web page, but they don't have any other info on it, other than
> the fact it was made for the 200lx. No pricing or anything.

Thanks, I checked it out and sent them a request for information.
Is their anyone who has used it who could comment on it? It sound
very interesting a circuit simulator made for the 200LX but the
company is over in Budipest so there is no way to test the program
without buying it. Anybody on the list in Budipest who could go to
Design Software and check it out?

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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 01:44:36 -0400
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Jeff Malka commented:

JM> For many months now I could not get PNS200 to work consistently in my
JM> 200 LX.  On clicking on a PIM file in filer, the PIM would start up
JM> (database, notebook, etc) but with the file that was previously open
JM> in that application. That is it would not open the new datafile I had
JM> clicked on.
JM> . . . . .
JM> Today, while fooling around with it, I discovered that if I removed
JM> my alternative font TSR (Helvsd, Andrew3, or similar) by "rem"ing it
JM> from my autoexec.bat and rebooting the LX, then the PNS200 worked
JM> correctly. Moving the font TSR to a different order in the
JM> autoexec.bat has not allowed me so far to run both a font such as
JM> Helvsd and PNS200 correctly.

And Mitch Hamm replied:

MH> Your problem is most likely that you are still relying on the PNS200
MH> patch function to open those files. It actually replaces the name of
MH> the last file open in each application's ENV file with the filename
MH> you picked in Filer. Problem is, it only works if you have the
MH> application closed. If you have database open and pick another
MH> database, the one you have open will remain open.

I had been having TWO problems with my Thaddeus-upgraded 8-meg doublespeed
machine (well, three, if you count the flaky B key....). One is exactly
the problem Jeff describes above, but - contrary to Mitch's suggestion, it
occurs whether the application is open or not, even after a fresh reboot.

The other is that the built-in file requester would not work for me. I
could perform a fresh boot, open MEMO, DATABASE, PHONE, or NOTES, press
F9, and obtain the file requester. But as soon as I selected something in
the requester, the entire system would lock up, requiring a
<Ctrl><Shift><On> "hard" reboot.

I have just tried some testing with my Flashcard OUT (normally I have left
it IN 100% of the time). It is a new SimpleTech 80MB card; the only time I
HAD benn having it out was when I put the EXP modem card in for acCIS.

With no card IN, the function returned to the old standard function (as it
had been with the EXP card in last year): the file requester works in all
applications that use it.

That said and done, I tried following up Jeff's suggestion above. I
discovered that REMming out the "jinifont" line in AUTOEXEC.BAT resulted
in having double-enter in filer successfully start the selected file in
the appropriate application. It does NOT work if the 80MB flash card is
IN, however, because the double-enter trick brings up the file requester,
locking up the machine.

I would be EXTREMELY interested in suggestions that would enable me to
leave the 80MB card IN, and still have my file requester work.

And, like Jeff, also EXTREMELY interested in suggestions that would allow
"point and shoot" in Filer to work with (in my case) jinifont.

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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 22:55:52 PDT
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              David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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All the talk of tinyprog et all has me wondering who on the list
uses good old xine?

It is burned into rom, so doesn't cost any space, it works fine
for me and you can even read the contents of a text file to the
screen using xine filename.ext con (unfortunately, I don't know
how to make it pause screenfulls!)

Also, somebody mentioned using xcopy from dos 6.x and I have to
wonder why when the palmtop has a dos 5.0 copy in rom?

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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 06:54:48 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Compile a Verilog simulator for DOS
In-Reply-To:  <SIMEON.9808221756.E8397@lewzealand.ww.andrew.cmu.edu> from "Mike
              Hendricks" at Aug 22, 98 05:44:56 pm
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> I have the gcc source for a freeware Verilog simulator (simulates
> electronics circuits) and I want to compile it for DOS so that I can
> use it on my 200LX.  Unfortunately, the only DOS machine that I have
> access to is my palmtop (which doesn't have enough memory to install
> gcc).  Would anyone out there be willing to compile it for me?  If so
> reply to me in e-mail and I can give you the source.

It may be possible to use another C compiler with little or no tweaking.

> Maybe even better: does anyone use a Verilog simulator on their
> palmtop that they could point me towards?

Try out this boolean simulator:

http://www.maxmon.com/Bool.zip

I have installed it an run it from my 200LX, so I know it works on one.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 06:58:23 -0500
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> It is unlikely they have the HPLX version, although, of course, it is
> possible. The PC version won't run on the HP Palmtop. The LX version was
> a significant rewrite.

How can this be?  I thought that palmtops have been running SC for years
before the latest LX-tailored version came out.  In fact, seems like this
was covered in the PTP a couple of years ago - comparing SC and DOSSHELL.
Exactly what won't run?

-Chris

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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 07:48:27 -0400
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      Re: PNS200 conflicts
Comments: To: "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <9808222357.ZM978@wisdom.palmtop.net>

->> For many months now I could not get PNS200 to work consistently in my 200
->> LX.  On clicking on a PIM file in filer, the PIM would start up (database,
->> notebook, etc) but with the file that was previously open in that
->> application.  That is it would not open the new datafile I had clicked on.
->Your problem is most likely that you are still relying on the PNS200
->patch function to open those files. It actually replaces the name of
->the last file open in each application's ENV file with the filename you
->picked in Filer. Problem is, it only works if you have the application
->closed. If you have database open and pick another database, the one
->you have open will remain open.

Actually the problem occurs whether the database or notetaker is open or
not.  In the testing I always closed the database first before clicking on
the datafile in filer.  With the font activated, the database just opens.
When it is remmed out, after the database opening it goes through the
steps of opening the new file.

->The way around this is to use keystuff to open them. For example, to
->get a database open, you would first remove the line in the Patch
->section for the database and then add a line similar to this to the
->Action section:
->3=c:\bin\ks.com \C\$\9%k/
->And up in the Menu section you would still have:
->3=Database
->This method of file opening is a bit slower, but you don't have to
->worry about closing the app first.

This sounds interesting and I will certainly try it.

Thanks.

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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 07:12:29 -0500
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Because some files like sysaps
looks for its files on c: and if the
files aren't there you in deep
water........ and the pgm don't woik.

BTW: aren't you running sysaps?
and it's woiking?  No, really? you
mean you have all your files in F:
and everythings woiking?

Semper Mobilis,
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 08:22:37 -0400
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Comments: To: "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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->The way around this is to use keystuff to open them. For example, to
->get a database open, you would first remove the line in the Patch
->section for the database and then add a line similar to this to the
->Action section:
->3=c:\bin\ks.com \C\$\9%k/

Tried it.  Made no difference.  That is: PNS works when the font is remmed
out and does not when it is functional.

One question:  Are you using both PNS and a font together?  If so, could
you send me a copy of your autoexec.bat.file?

Thanks.


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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 21:32:57 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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More snippets on PDA - Mobile GSM comms
I think we need to send begging letters to these PalmPilot
developers.
-------------------------   Quote
begins -------------------------------
Courtesy of.......... http://www.21store.co.uk/pdantic/index.htm

THE HACK - 15 AUGUST

As of today I'm aware of three different organizations that have
already developed or who are developing a software patch to
enable the Ericsson SH888 to link directly to the 3Com Palm III.

The first is from Ericsson which will no doubt be the De Facto
patch as and when available.  I just checked their mobile site
and still no mention of a solution.

Secondly SmartCode Software's French office produced a
hack on behalf of Palm Europe to get around the non-
communications problem and to enable Palm to demonstrate
 the solution at the recent CeBIT exhibition, I've not seen this
one either.

And finally IrLINK from IS/Complete in the USA hacked a
little program together.  I've been working with beta versions.
 The aim and advantage of IrLINK is that it is not device
(SH888) specific and is intended to work with any program
that normally uses RS-232 off the pilot, output can easily be
redirected to either IrDA or HP-SIR protocols without any
coding using the menu options.

For the release version I suggested they add a 'Discover'
mode thus enabling you to point your Palm III at any IrDA
compatible device and as long as it was active you stood
a good chance of getting a plain English response back
on the screen.  Well they did add it yesterday, and I've just
 been walking around my office pointing the Palm III at HP
printers and digital phones getting sensible responses
such as 'HP340' and 'SH888' thus proving the ports are active.

If you are desperate to get hold of IrLINK then contact
them at http://www.iscomplete.com

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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1998 19:56:55 -0500
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Me Too !

TIA
Jon
--------------

At 08:09 PM 8/22/98 -0500, you wrote:
>On 08-22 05:54pm, the following was written:
>
>> Palmtop Circuit is a circuit design program specifically designed
>> for the 200LX. Has anyone used it? Does anyone know where to get
>> a copy? TIA:)
>
>Let me/us know if you find the software or a source for it. It would be a
>welcome addition to my 200LX.
>
>73 Jeff KF4KGQ
>
>
>    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>    |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain      |
>    |    Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1)     | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept |
>    | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet  |     QTH Birmingham, AL USA      |
>    =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>
>Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.19beta) REGISTERED
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 08:55:09 -0700
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              Danny Gaudenti <gaudent@QNET.COM>
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>> Hi all,
>> I'm running a DOS program and I can't seem to use the arrow keys to select
>> text.  Normally, you can hold down the shift key and use the arrows to move
>> around and select.  All I get are numbers being inserted.  For example, if
>> I press shift right-arrow, I get a "6".
>>
>> I thought I remembered reading something in the manual about a special key
>> combination to get what I want, but I can't find it.  Any suggestions
>> (other than: don't try to select text)?
>> Danny

>Press the "Menu" key at the same time. (I know, you need to
>have multi-jointed fingers!)

Thanks for the reply.  You mean press Menu and the shift key?  That didn't
work.  I tried all sorts of combinations of Menu and other keys,  the
closest I got was selecting from the cursor to the end or beginning of the
file.  Must be something strange with this program.  Oh well, I can do
without.

Danny

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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 19:02:45 -0000
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Comments:     Originally-From: jim.henry@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)
From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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HM>Does anyone on the list use MaxDOS? If you do, here's a question:

HM>If you're running a program under MaxDOS and and one of your HP Appointment
  >entries causes an alarm (one beep under MaxDOS), are you able to continue
  >to operate your HP?

HM>Mine is locked up tight (ctrl-shift-on time!). This does not seem related
  >to the program that I'm running under MaxDOS, but is probably due to
  >something that I've set up incorrectly. I'm running a T2T doublespeed, 5
  >meg machine.

Same here.  When I am running 1st Reader wit MaxDos, and am alarm goes
off, my system reboots itself.   I also have a double speed 200LX.  I
just consider it a momentary inconvenience though, and a rare ocurrence
because I don't have that many alarms set.

Jim

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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 15:38:03 -0500
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OK -- that was the hint that led to the solution. I had a custom alarm tune
-- once I used a standard beep the problem went away. It seems that if you
use custom alarms, you must use PlayEX.

Thanks for the help.

On Saturday, August 22, 1998 9:43 AM, Jorgen Wallgren
SMTP:jorgen@palmtop.net wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As described in MaxDOS's documentation- use PlayEX which you also load in
> your autoexec.bat. Now it will play your whole alarm sound when you are
in
> a MaxDOS session and I am sure it will not hang.
>
> Jorgen
>
>
> > If you're running a program under MaxDOS and and one of your HP
Appointment
> > entries causes an alarm (one beep under MaxDOS), are you able to
continue
> > to operate your HP?
> >
> > Mine is locked up tight (ctrl-shift-on time!). This does not seem
related
> > to the program that I'm running under MaxDOS, but is probably due to
> > something that I've set up incorrectly. I'm running a T2T doublespeed,
5
> > meg machine.
> >
> > Help!
> >
>
>

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al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM> wrote:
> Because some files like sysaps
> looks for its files on c: and if the
> files aren't there you in deep
> water........ and the pgm don't woik.

Of course, you can keep the PIM application data on C: and use F: for
Other Stuff.  That's what I do and it works great for me; just like
when I kept all that Other Stuff on a flash EEPROM card as A:.

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 14:48:22 -0400
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The gnu c compiler for dos is intended for 32 bit platforms.

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> Unfortunately, the only DOS machine that I have access to is my
> palmtop (which doesn't have enough memory to install gcc).

I never considered gcc on the palmtop, for the memory reason. Also, it's
pretty inefficient in other ways (gnu: the "Microsoft of unix").

But I'd guess that the DOS version would require a 286 - ie not run on the
XT of a hp200lx, inefficiencies regardless.

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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 17:55:54 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Keeping apps on little C: and data on Big F:

Hey Frankie,
Nobody said it couldn't be done, just that
it's more convenient. Most aplications load
and look in c: till you modify it, why go
against the tide?  Why split the apps in one drive and the data in
another? That's why
they made the switch charoo pgm.  What
advantage do you see for spliting it?  Ever
have c: disappear?  It does occsionally, when
it goes, so goes the aps. Yeah so it reloads,
okay, do it your way.

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:47:36 +1200
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> >Press the "Menu" key at the same time. (I know, you need to
> >have multi-jointed fingers!)
>
> Thanks for the reply.  You mean press Menu and the shift key?  That
didn't
> work.  I tried all sorts of combinations of Menu and other keys,  the
> closest I got was selecting from the cursor to the end or beginning of
the
> file.  Must be something strange with this program.  Oh well, I can do
> without.
>
> Danny

You can also try using the numeric keys, remember the full-sized keyboard
uses the numeric pad for cursor movement with the numlock off.

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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 18:52:20 -0700
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Wellner, Harry SIOP-OGBH/7 wrote:
>
> I am searching for an ACAD browser for the W-95. Would you suggest that
> there is an ACAD browser even for the HP200LX ?
>
> Harry Wellner, The Netherlands

Why not run Acad R10 or 2.6?

David

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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 18:56:06 -0500
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David,
Pls restate the complete problem.

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:42:31 +0800
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              Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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Hi List,

Does anyone have any languages databases for Thai, Bahasa Indonesia,
Japanese or Tagalog? I would like to have a copy if possible.

Thanks in advance.

Jien Hung

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 00:55:31 EDT
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> Hi There,
>
> should be..) which made it possible to set my version of DOS without
> installing that version. I mean I could set the palmtop DOS version to =
be
> 6.2 so I could run programs which would not run in DOS 5.0. A "ver" in =
a

> Jorgen Wallgren
>
> > Help
> > I wanted to get defrag installed on my HP to be able to defragment my =
C
> > drive to install extended memory (emm300.exe), but the defrag from =
Dos
> > Version 6.2 won't run on the HP with DOS 5.0.  Any ideas on that???
> >

That little prog is called setverm. I have it here on the lx. I dont
remember exactly where I got it. maybe Eddie or Simtel. We should see if =
it
could find a home on SUPER, as it really is a needed program for a =
machine
that runs on DOS 5.

Darren.

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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 23:32:28 -0600
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              Owen Kalau <owenk@CANUCK.COM>
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I seem to remember someone mentioning a flakey 'b' key...
I was afraid I was alone on this! Occasionally, when I hit the 'b' hard,
it types bv <--- I even did it there! =)
Is there someone who can give some advice here?

Note: My palmtop is a stock 2mb 200lx, no speed upgrade.
 Thanks.

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:06:10 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Anyone know anything about prices for the Ericsson SH888 mobile phone?

I've had a bit of a look around, but no luck...


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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 03:20:09 -0400
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              Laurence Harvey <harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Jeff Malka wrote:

>For many months now I could not get PNS200 to work consistently in my 20=
0
>LX.  On clicking on a PIM file in filer, the PIM would start up (databas=
e,
>notebook, etc) but with the file that was previously open in that
>application.  That is it would not open the new datafile I had clicked o=
n.

I have been using PNS200 with the Andrew3 font for some time now with no =

problems. It works fine with the built in apps, and with "external"
programs.

>If so, what font does not conflict with PNS200 and where do you
>have it in the autoexec.bat relative to BUDDY, PNS200, etc.

My AUTOEXEC.BAT loads the font before Buddy, Buddy being the last
thing loaded.

Are you sure you have the FILER.INI and PNS200.INI files correctly =

configured in the C:\_DAT directory? Check the PNS200 DOC file.

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:33:56 +0100
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              Stuart.FOSTER@SOCGEN.CO.UK
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> Anyone know anything about prices for the Ericsson SH888 mobile phone?
About 300 to 400 pounds unconnected in England.
(or around 120 quid with a one year contract).
Nice phone, had one for a week till I discovered how
much effort was required to get it working with the HP.
Thanks Ericsson.



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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 03:48:18 +800
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              Paul Yarnell <pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM>
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Holla,
Beg to differ, I found a copy of SC in the cutout bin of my favorite
pre-owned software shop($.79) version 5.03, and it works well enough.
From what I read here, you lose the ability to call the built in
programs with the blue keys(?) that the palmtop version has, but gain
a neat little clipboard feature called "snap-n-snip."
It is nice to move from WP to Agenda in the virtual blink of an eye.

Paul


On 1998-08-22 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
   ><<www.daytonsoftware.com  does have  SOFTWARE CAROUSEL new for $8.
   >50. This
   >must be a different version than the one for the HPLX ??>>
   >It is unlikely they have the HPLX version, although, of course, it
   >is possible. The PC version won't run on the HP Palmtop. The LX
   >version was a significant rewrite.


Paul Yarnell
pyarnell@proaxis.com

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over the truth, then pick himself up and continue.

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:25:22 +0200
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Simple to prevent overhead. I just want to 'browse' the files. VIEW.EXE
Extended is not yet available (:-

Harry Wellner, Gouda-Netherlands

>----------
>From:  David R. BirchSMTP:drbirch@EXECPC.COM
>Sent:  24 August 1998 03:52
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: ACAD and the HP
>
>Wellner, Harry SIOP-OGBH/7 wrote:
>>
>> I am searching for an ACAD browser for the W-95. Would you suggest that
>> there is an ACAD browser even for the HP200LX ?
>>
>> Harry Wellner, The Netherlands
>
>Why not run Acad R10 or 2.6?
>
>David
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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:47:08 +0200
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Mentioning that 'belly' is right. I also have a belly in the middle same
where. See my previous Email how I have overcome a problem with a key.
But I am not sure if this is the reason of the upgrade which I have
indeed performed recently. Could be .....

Harry Wellner, Gouda-Netherlands


>----------
>From:  Stefan PeichlSMTP:stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE
>Sent:  21 August 1998 14:12
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: erratic Fn key
>
>> Sometimes, not all the time, the purple function key stops working.
>> This means no cut/paste, no page down, etc. But at other times, it works.
>> I can't seem to find any variable that makes a difference.
>
>I had similar problems. It turned out to be a bad keyboard
>connection. If the problem occurs again, just put some pressure
>on your case in the lower right corner, where 0.=+ is located.
>If this solves your problem, you first should check, if the
>screws of your case are loose. Fix them and the problem should
>go away. If the screws are fix, you might have to open your
>palmtop and clean the keyboard connector cable. However this is
>not simple and you should do it only, if you know how to open
>the palmtop. The speed upgrade comes with a detailed
>explanation.
>
>I found out, that the 32MB upgrade, which sits just under the
>number block, adds a little 'belly' to the keyboard and could
>be the reason for a bad keyboard connection, which works on
>pressure between the case and the motherboard.
>
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I recently had the SAME problem: resolved that easily by using a
so-called 'contact-spray'.

Switch off the machine, use the spray gently around the key. Press the
key a couple of times (30-40) and then power on the machine and see
whether problem is solved. In my case I had to repeat the above
descriped step a second time. Afterall problem resolved within 2
minutes.

Harry Wellner, Gouda-Netherlands

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>Subject:       Re: erratic Fn key
>
>On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Mikhail Epelbaum wrote:
>
>> Now that all drives are in place, I notice another strange behaviour
>> (in a 32 meg doublespeed 200 LX). Sometimes, not all the time, the
>> purple function key stops working. This means no cut/paste, no page
>> down, etc. But at other times, it works. I can't seem to find any
>> variable that makes a difference.
>> When the key malfunctions, rebooting makes no difference.
>> Again, has anyone wxperienced something like this?
>
>It's most likely a key failure.  Sometimes the keys get a little soggy and
>don't contact with a regular press-- sometimes you really have to push
>them down hard to get it to work.  Try doing a keyboard test, or try using
>the Fn key and see how hard you have to press to get it to show up.  The
>good news is, if it IS a key failure, they're usually completely fixable
>by cleaning out under the contact pad.
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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:02:46 +0200
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Recently started with success with this package. After joining a second
newsgroup (I realize this is not the reason but I do not now another
reason) after Hanging up the modem a Status box pops up with an obscure
message like: Processing box: xxxxxxxxxxx
where xxxxxxxx is always different figures.

Then the 200LX is stug, keyboard etc is all refusing to continue. Hard
reset helps but each time I am losing my battery settings in the setup
because I am using rechargeable batteries.

Anyone figure out what is going on ?

Harry Wellner, Gouda-Netherlands

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 07:58:12 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Years ago I read Pirsig's "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" and
enjoyed it a great deal. If you are unfamiliar with the book, it is one of the
classics of this century, maybe of all time. It's not really about Zen or
Motorcycle Maintenance, but more a man's quest for truth. It really makes you
think. OK, on to the palmtop angle:

I wanted to read the book again, but on the palmtop this time. However, it is
still copyrighted and is not readily available in etext. I did an exhaustive
net search and turned up a bunch of dead ends until finally I found it in HTML
format. I won't carry it on SUPER, of course, but I would like to share the
link hoping that the availability in the electronic version might cajole a few
palmtoppers into reading it. Somehow I really don't think Robert would mind...

http://skynet.ul.ie/~chopper/zen/

Mitch
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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:02:34 EDT
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Morning mitch
Great day in the morning.
Good read indeed, excellent tip. What do
you use for a HTML reader on the LX?

and what about The dancing Wu Li Masters?
or even The Tao of Physics?

For those that don't know the meaning of zen
and bykes, there is an outstanding expo in:
GUIDEBOOK TO ZEN AND THE ART OF
MOTORCYCLE MAINTENANCE. by
R.L.di Santo and T.JSteel Phd.1974.

It happens, watch it don't happen today.
yor pal al..........................

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 08:53:01 -0500
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Hi,

> ----------
> From:         Brendan MacmillanSMTP:bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU
> Subject:      Re: Compile a Verilog simulator for DOS
>
> > Unfortunately, the only DOS machine that I have access to is my
> > palmtop (which doesn't have enough memory to install gcc).
>
> I never considered gcc on the palmtop, for the memory reason.
>
GNU's gcc only compiles 386 or better CPU's. so you couldn't use it anyway.
Check out
www.delorie.com. There is a 16 bit version of gcc at this site.

> Also, it's pretty inefficient in other ways
>
How so ?

> (gnu: the "Microsoft of unix").
>
Nevermind the fact that the GNU stuff is ***FREE****.  Let's see Microsquat
do that ! :-)

> But I'd guess that the DOS version would require a 286 - ie not run on the
> XT of a hp200lx, inefficiencies regardless.
>
The source code should not be machine specific, so if you have a 16 bit
compiler that generates
8086 code , it should run on most systems.
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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 08:59:33 -0500
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Hi,

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> KristSMTP:jtkrist@CLARK.NET
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>
> The gnu c compiler for dos is intended for 32 bit platforms.
>
Try DJGPP from www.delorie.com.  this is a 16 bit port of GCC.

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Hi,


Me too please.

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>
> Hi List,
>
> Does anyone have any languages databases for Thai, Bahasa Indonesia,
> Japanese or Tagalog? I would like to have a copy if possible.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Jien Hung
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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:30:02 -0400
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I used to run Jam and saw the same problem. I chode to ignore it and it
never seemed to have other ill effects.

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Russell Hemery mailto:rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU
                Sent:   Saturday, August 22, 1998 10:34 AM
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                Hi All

                I have my C: Jammed.. upon issuing the Jmax command I
got an error message
                right at the end..

                Internal error reading clusters xxxx-xxxx.

                The Doc file says  its caused by a physical error on the
host drive and to
                unmount and run Scandisk/NDD or some such.  I did this
and ran NDD..No
                errors found..

                Running NDD on the Jammed drive resulted in a couple of
read errors and
                Write protect flags on C: for SOME files..  ie 3.

                Is there anyone who knows what may have happened here?
Anyone had similar
                happenings?

                Is there any command in Jam that may fix the error or am
I destined to
                Backup..I have done once today..delete Jam file and
create new..  I tried
                shrinking and all other commands on the Jam
distribution..


                Any ideas appreciated


                TIA

                Russell

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:09:35 -0500
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Mitch
a good read indeed.
Wouldn't hurt to start a litery
section would it?  It would enhance
the use of the LX. Like one more
function. A way to bring a good book
along to read or reread on my long trips.

At the very least, how about links
to cyber libraries?

If it's to be, it's up to thee.
Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 07:37:12 -0700
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al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM> writes:
> Nobody said it couldn't be done, just that
> it's more convenient.

Let's look at what you wrote before, about why the "default"
configuration seems to be to swap drive letters:

# Because some files like sysaps
# looks for its files on c: and if the
# files aren't there you in deep
# water........ and the pgm don't woik.

OK, my reading comprehension isn't quite up to the way you write, but
I read that as you thinking it's necessary to swap the drive letters.

And I guess it is sometimes -- there are some oddball MS-DOS apps out
there that figure C: must be The Hard Disk.  But I don't use any like
that.

> Most aplications load
> and look in c: till you modify it, why go
> against the tide?  Why split the apps in one drive and the data in
> another? That's why
> they made the switch charoo pgm.  What
> advantage do you see for spliting it?

It works better for me -- I'm just used to having the basic PIM stuff
(phone book, appt book, stuff that has to be in C:\_DAT) in one place
and other stuff out on another larger drive.  Said other stuff is
MS-DOS applications and their data, as well as some other large GDB
databases.

Once upon a time I think the rationale was that I kept the essential
PIM stuff on C: where it wouldn't be removed with the flash card.

When I got my palmtop back from Times2Tech, it had the swap driver
in there.  I tried it, decided I'd rather have F: be the big drive
(like I used to have A:) and pulled it out of config.sys.

> Ever
> have c: disappear?  It does occsionally, when
> it goes, so goes the aps. Yeah so it reloads,
> okay, do it your way.

Can't say that I have.  Personally I blame clean living and
frequent backups.

But that's one of the big wins of the 95LX/100LX/200LX: in six years
of using them I have never lost the stored files.  The only times I've
had to use my backups have been when I was moving data to a new
palmtop.

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:00:08 +0000
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> Does anyone have any languages databases for Thai, Bahasa Indonesia,
> Japanese or Tagalog? I would like to have a copy if possible.
>
> Jien Hung

What are these language databases? I never heard of such things before.
I made a little database of Mandarin words in Notemaker once, but that
was "homemade" and quite limited. Is there a commercial product of this
kind?

Mikhail

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:03:53 -700
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On 1998-08-24 Chin Jien Hung said:
 HP>Hi List,
 HP>Does anyone have any languages databases for Thai, Bahasa Indonesia,
 HP>Japanese or Tagalog? I would like to have a copy if possible.
 HP>Thanks in advance.
 HP>Jien Hung
As a matter of fact, I do have a database files with english, Bahasa
Indonesia. It was part of an old dos dictionary with an own search program
that only worked when the floppies were used at boot up. I have the files
from a to y (do not know what happened with the z). The text files contain
the english words with an Indonesian translation separated by a comma, every
new word on a new sentence.  I know that with the original program you could
also look up the english translation for a Bahasa Indonesian word. I always
wanted to try and make a search program for it to use it on my Palmtop but I
never came to it. If you want to play with it, give me an email.
Files 25, uncompressed 358 kb.

IneedsignificantlymoreroominthislineforwhatIwanttosayhere

Net-Tamer V 1.10  - Registered

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:15:15 +0000
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Harry - do you diassemble the case fo this or simply spray arounf the
actual key on the keyboard. I've never taken my HP apart, am afraid to
intoduce more problems...

Mikhail

> I recently had the SAME problem: resolved that easily by using a
> so-called 'contact-spray'.
>
> Switch off the machine, use the spray gently around the key. Press the
> key a couple of times (30-40) and then power on the machine and see
> whether problem is solved. In my case I had to repeat the above
> descriped step a second time. Afterall problem resolved within 2
> minutes.
>
> Harry Wellner, Gouda-Netherlands

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How can I set the ir port as the communication port from a DOS
program? How should I call it? com2? com3?...


                                Tnx a lot!

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:47:18 -0500
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Hi Verilogers
I have a 386 palmtop for sale and or trade
Do make an offer.  I'm looking for a 64MB
flash card or the $$ to get me one.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:50:37 -0500
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Jien et al;
"Does anyone have any languages
databases for Thai, Bahasa Indonesia,
Japanese or Tagalog? I would like to
have a copy if possible."
>
Any of youse guys in the CHIcago area?

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............


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> ----------
> From:         Mikhail EpelbaumSMTP:mepelbaum@ATTCANADA.NET
> Subject:      Re: Foreign Languages Database
>
> > Does anyone have any languages databases for Thai, Bahasa Indonesia,
> > Japanese or Tagalog? I would like to have a copy if possible.
> >
> > Jien Hung
>
> What are these language databases? ......... Is there a commercial product
> of this
> kind?
>
> Mikhail
>
I think that's what we are trying to find out  :-)

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From:    David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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> All the talk of tinyprog et all has me wondering who on the list
> uses good old xine?

> It is burned into rom, so doesn't cost any space, it works fine
> for me and you can even read the contents of a text file to the
> screen using xine filename.ext con (unfortunately, I don't know
> how to make it pause screenfulls!)

Try "xine filename.ext con | more".  MORE.COM is the DOS break up the
display to screen into pages utility.  May have to try that...

Steve


From:    Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject: Re: DOS commands (6.2) in LX.

> There is a Japanese solution to this. Some years back when I was surfing
> the Japanese HP Palmtop pages, I remember that I found a program (a TSR =
it
> should be..) which made it possible to set my version of DOS without
> installing that version.

> So maybe some other "surfer" could give us a direction?

> Jorgen Wallgren

Erm, ah?  What about setver?  SETVER.EXE is a part of DOS 5.0.
It's a TSR that fakes the DOS version request made by a program
in its databese.  You can tell one program ver 3.0, another one
can be told 4.0.  When I tried deltree from 6.2 a few days back,
I fully expected to fire up setver and tell deltree it was under
version 6.2.  It couldn't have cared less though.

Steve

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:25:38 -0700
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If anyone gets info on this program, please send it to the list so that
we can all know.  I have always wanted a circuit design simulator just
for playing and tinkering, and one on my palmtop would be TOPS!!!!!

Dan Carrington

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:33:37 -0400
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I have two (2) new, never opened SanDisk 15MB Compact Flash memory cards
with PC card adapters for sale.  These are in factory sealed cartons,
the shrink wrap has never been broken.  I am using one in my HP200lx and
it works great.  I am asking $100.00 for each card plus $4.00 shipping.

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jguenthe@nafis.fp.trw.com.

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> If anyone gets info on this program, please send it to the list so that
> we can all know.  I have always wanted a circuit design simulator just
> for playing and tinkering, and one on my palmtop would be TOPS!!!!!

I searched a few years ago for a SPICE version that I could compile and
get running on my palmtop.  Seems like I found one, but I never got it
100% running - problem was lack of time as I recall, not technical in
nature.  I'll see if I can dig it up.

-Chris


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Okay. I'm getting sick of my terminal programs. So:
I would like everyone's personal favourites, opinions, whatever.
Basically, it has to be small, fast, and support vt100 and zmodem.

The ones I've used.
* Bananacom 2.x : fairly fast, fairly small, has disappearing cursor bug.

* Bananacom 3.0 : tad slow, freezes sometimes, time limit of 7 days.

* Lync 3.0 : Small, fast (great program) but doesn't seem to display vt100
        correctly when I run lynx (the unix browser) over a terminal            session.
(Maybe it only supports ansi?)

* Conex : okay size, okay speed, has really funny (annoying) color scheme.
        Useable, though.

* Panther : kind of an odd program, big tho. Freezes from time to time.

Anyone's comments are appreciated. I can also point anyone to these
programs, should they wish to try them out themselves. =)

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Truly an interesting book. Although you can pick up a few tidbits
of motorcycle maintenence by reading it. Also you really get a sense
of the open road. I liked it because of its philisophical nature.
Another good book is the "Seawolf" by Jack London. He was really
in to Darwin and the "survival of the fittest" thing.

In message  <9808240758.ZM15248@wisdom.palmtop.net>, mitch@PALMTOP.NET said:
> Years ago I read Pirsig's "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" and
> enjoyed it a great deal. If you are unfamiliar with the book, it is one of the
> classics of this century, maybe of all time. It's not really about Zen or
> Motorcycle Maintenance, but more a man's quest for truth. It really makes you
> think. OK, on to the palmtop angle:
>
> I wanted to read the book again, but on the palmtop this time. However, it is
> still copyrighted and is not readily available in etext. I did an exhaustive
> net search and turned up a bunch of dead ends until finally I found it in HTML
> format. I won't carry it on SUPER, of course, but I would like to share the
> link hoping that the availability in the electronic version might cajole a few
> palmtoppers into reading it. Somehow I really don't think Robert would mind...
>
> http://skynet.ul.ie/~chopper/zen/
>
> Mitch
> S.U.P.E.R. Team
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I've noticed that my function key is now working intermittently.  Anyone
else have this problem?  Any solutions out there?

Thanks!
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On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Owen Kalau wrote:

> Okay. I'm getting sick of my terminal programs. So:
> I would like everyone's personal favourites, opinions, whatever.
> Basically, it has to be small, fast, and support vt100 and zmodem.

         use Procomm Plus 2.0 on the palmtop, I stripped it down  to
installed size of 372k. Has zmodem, VT100 and scripting ability.


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Does anyone know the exact name of the processor that the HP uses. I
know that it's an 80C186 but is it the 186EA or 186XL or just the plain
old 186.  It probably says it right on the chip but I haven't opened my
palmtop.

I looked at the pictures on hplx.net but I couldn't read the lettering
on the chip.

Michael Hendricks

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>          use Procomm Plus 2.0 on the palmtop, I stripped it down  to
> installed size of 372k. Has zmodem, VT100 and scripting ability.

Have I missed the intent of this thread?  While I have used procomm on
the 200LX, it was just to see if it would work.  I use the built-in
datacomm app most of the time.  It sends and receives files using a
number of formats, and has always served my pusposes reasonably well.
Perhaps there is a shortcoming that I have overlooked?

-Chris

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al chin wrote:
>
> Mitch
> a good read indeed.
> Wouldn't hurt to start a litery
> section would it?  It would enhance
> the use of the LX. Like one more
> function. A way to bring a good book
> along to read or reread on my long trips.
>
> At the very least, how about links
> to cyber libraries?
>
> If it's to be, it's up to thee.
> Semper Mobilis,
> yor pal al :) .............

AL, Mitch and other LXers

www.macduff.net has a site for PalmPilot etexts, I think it would be
grand if LXers had a similar site.
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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:28:27 -0500
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I have ten (10) communication programs in my palmtop.  See if you
recognize any of them...

 1.) Datacomm (built-in... VT100, the works, very nice)
 2.) Procomm Plus v2.01 (best comm prog ever written.)
 3.) Glenayre DOS Console (proprietary comm program)
 4.) pagerecm.exe (Gilat Skydata receiver control software)
 5.) ar3000.exe (AOR Scanner control software)
 6.) Comlink v3.0 (serial pass-through program)
 7.) aw-srad.exe (Aware Geiger counter software)
 8.) LXGPS (moving-map, GPS display, thanks S.U.P.E.R.!)
 9.) ils.com (Intellisync server)
10.) ccMail (built-in)

All of these work _daily_ (with the exception of Comlink) on an HP200LX
with 8meg of memory, double speed, with both external and PC card
modems.  The proprietary stuff is used mostly in direct connect
configurations.

>-----Original Message-----
>From:  R. Christopher Lott SMTP:rclott@RO.COM
>Sent:  Monday, August 24, 1998 2:47 PM
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>
>>          use Procomm Plus 2.0 on the palmtop, I stripped it down  to
>> installed size of 372k. Has zmodem, VT100 and scripting ability.
>
>Have I missed the intent of this thread?  While I have used procomm on
>the 200LX, it was just to see if it would work.
><snip>

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:31:33 -0700
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John Guenther wrote:
>
> I have two (2) new, never opened SanDisk 15MB Compact Flash memory cards
> with PC card adapters for sale.  These are in factory sealed cartons,
> the shrink wrap has never been broken.  I am using one in my HP200lx and
> it works great.  I am asking $100.00 for each card plus $4.00 shipping.
>
> Please reply with private email to jguenther@loudoun.com or
> jguenthe@nafis.fp.trw.com.
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I just reread your ad and misread it the first time.  Sorry, I thought
it said 45m card.

David

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:45:31 -0500
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Frankie
Keep up the good work
seems like I may be doing something
wrong. I'll try to figure out what
it be. Usually I believe that some
ideas are better than others but in
this case I'll defer to diferent folks
diferent strokes.

BTW: I didn't never say NECESSARY,
I said, convenient.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:10:38 -0700
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Chris,

 > > It is unlikely they have the HPLX version, although, of course, it =
is
 > > possible. The PC version won't run on the HP Palmtop. The LX version =
was
 > > a significant rewrite.
 >
 > How can this be?  I thought that palmtops have been running SC for =
years
 > before the latest LX-tailored version came out.  In fact, seems like =
this
 > was covered in the PTP a couple of years ago - comparing SC and =
DOSSHELL.
 > Exactly what won't run?

Recognition of SysMgr appications was added. Without this,
you'd risk opening the same file in two Workareas, and
instantly corrupting it. Also, the special keys recognition
was added.

As I heard it, the Carousel re-work for Palmtops was
commissioned by Stanley Kubrik of the 2001 movie fame. I have
no idea if it is correct.

Ed Tolson and his wife, the authors, were again recently
commissioned for another re-work to create version 7.0x by the
Palmtop Paper.

  Avi M. D&A

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<HTML>
DOes anyone know of either IRC or MIRC software that will work on the palmtop.
<BR>TIA
<BR>Tony</HTML>

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Subject:      Re: A good palmtop read

On that topic, is there a converter available that reformats the .prc
(palm-pilot etext format) files into plain ASCII text.  The Pilot has
gained enough steam to motivate numerous copyright holders of various
works to release Palm Pilot versions of their texts.  I'm on the verge of
buying one (they really are slick little machines with a user group
ALMOST as cool as this one) for this feature but there is surely some way
to make them readable on the 200lx.

Larry Zimmerman


On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:29:43 -0400 Nick Marsh <nickwb4sqi@wwd.net>
writes:
>al chin wrote:
>>
>> Mitch
>> a good read indeed.
>> Wouldn't hurt to start a litery
>> section would it?
>>
<< (snip, snip)
>
>www.macduff.net has a site for PalmPilot etexts, I think it would be
>grand if LXers had a similar site.
>--
>73
>
>Nick Marsh
>WB4SQI

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On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Tony D. Guzewicz wrote:

> <HTML>
> DOes anyone know of either IRC or MIRC software that will work on the palmtop.
> <BR>TIA
> <BR>Tony</HTML>

I use VOICE IRC client on my 200LX, mIRC requires Window$.

Jeff

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On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> I searched a few years ago for a SPICE version that I could compile and
> get running on my palmtop.  Seems like I found one, but I never got it
> 100% running - problem was lack of time as I recall, not technical in
> nature.  I'll see if I can dig it up.

Please put me on the list for a copy if you get it working.

Jeff

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My favorite is BananaComm 3.0b, which is the lean version available on
S.U.P.E.R.. I worked with the author when he was trimming it for use on
the palmtop. It sure beats the heck out of the slooooow DataComm app
which is built-in.

Jeff


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OOPS !!! sorry folks....he's right

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> From:         jtkristSMTP:jtkrist on behalf of Jim
> KristSMTP:jtkrist@CLARK.NET
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> Sent:         Sunday, August 23, 1998 1:48 PM
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>
> The gnu c compiler for dos is intended for 32 bit platforms.
>
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From:   Brendan Macmillan SMTP:bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU
>       Sent:   Saturday, August 22, 1998 11:01 PM
>       To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>       Subject:        Re: Compile a Verilog simulator for DOS
>
>       > Unfortunately, the only DOS machine that I have access to is my
>       > palmtop (which doesn't have enough memory to install gcc).
>
>       I never considered gcc on the palmtop, for the memory reason. Also,
> it's
>       pretty inefficient in other ways (gnu: the "Microsoft of unix").
>
>       But I'd guess that the DOS version would require a 286 - ie not run
> on the
>       XT of a hp200lx, inefficiencies regardless.
>
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:55:28 -0500
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Wanna trade?
How about a 44/88 Sysgen removable hard drive?
or 6MB Smart modem memory card?

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:01:07 -0500
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I have 10MHz, 80188 Hornet
Maybe some of our more knowledgeable
gurus can supplement this info.

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:03:01 -0400
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> On that topic, is there a converter available that reformats the .prc
> (palm-pilot etext format) files into plain ASCII text.

There are several versions of MakeDoc that will do that. I have a java version
that I run under Linux and it works fine. I would bet that there is a DOS
version out there somewhere.

The best thing would be to add support for PRC files in VR, but I don't think
Gilles has done any updates in a long time.

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 16:20:10 -0500
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Does anybody know why the files are different.  Is it line termination.. ?
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> > On that topic, is there a converter available that reformats the .prc
> > (palm-pilot etext format) files into plain ASCII text.
>
> There are several versions of MakeDoc that will do that. I have a java
> version
> that I run under Linux and it works fine. I would bet that there is a DOS
> version out there somewhere.
>
> The best thing would be to add support for PRC files in VR, but I don't
> think
> Gilles has done any updates in a long time.
>
> Mitch
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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 16:43:14 -0500
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Comments: To: Mikhail Epelbaum <mepelbaum@attcanada.net>
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Turns out this was the problem.  I opened it up, cleaned the gold side of
the connector with 2-propanol and it worked fine.  The downside is that
I tried to tighten the screws first and accidentally destroyed one.  For
your general knowledge, the screws appear to be M1.5, 4 mm length, torix
head, approx .3 mm thread spacing.  I'll try to find some...

Thanks!
Rudy

On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Mikhail Epelbaum wrote:

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>
> Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1998 12:12:36 +0000
> From:         Stefan Peichl <stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE>
> Subject:      Re: erratic Fn key
> To:           HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>
> > Sometimes, not all the time, the purple function key stops working.
> > This means no cut/paste, no page down, etc. But at other times, it works.
> > I can't seem to find any variable that makes a difference.
>
> I had similar problems. It turned out to be a bad keyboard
> connection. If the problem occurs again, just put some pressure
> on your case in the lower right corner, where 0.=+ is located.
> If this solves your problem, you first should check, if the
> screws of your case are loose. Fix them and the problem should
> go away. If the screws are fix, you might have to open your
> palmtop and clean the keyboard connector cable. However this is
> not simple and you should do it only, if you know how to open
> the palmtop. The speed upgrade comes with a detailed
> explanation.
>
> I found out, that the 32MB upgrade, which sits just under the
> number block, adds a little 'belly' to the keyboard and could
> be the reason for a bad keyboard connection, which works on
> pressure between the case and the motherboard.
>
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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 16:15:14 -0600
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Just a quick note to pass on....

Got a flyer in the mail from AMD. It had things about their latest
happenings like a new fab, the K6-2, etc. But the thing that caught
my eye was a chip called the Am186CC. I kept reading it as an 80186
replacement. No PCMCIA on board though. The blurb was short and so
seems the web page:
http://www.amd.com/products/lpd/comm86/comm86.html

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:16:14 -0500
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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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On Thu, 20 Aug 1998, Jose Sabas wrote:
> I've found that lxfont works well.  I've yet to
> find a sans serif type that will work with Buddy on my palmtop.
>
Hi.
I use HELV, one of the fonts from the FontStuff collection on SUPER.  It
works fine with Buddy.

Cheers.
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:59:08 -0500
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YES,

Support from Sir Giles for etext to VR,
Vertical Reader would be the cat's meow.

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 18:32:16 -0500
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Will give it a try thanks. One more question though, can I only communicate with
people who are also using Voice or can I communicate with someone else who is using
MIRC.
Thanks
Tony

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:58:56 -0400
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Commo works the best i think, written in ASM/C very small and FAST


On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Jeff wrote:

> My favorite is BananaComm 3.0b, which is the lean version available on
> S.U.P.E.R.. I worked with the author when he was trimming it for use on
> the palmtop. It sure beats the heck out of the slooooow DataComm app
> which is built-in.
>
> Jeff
>
>
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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 18:14:28 -0700
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Folks,

Whicle I have a number of DOS bibles, I recall reading somewhere that
there is a program writen for the HPLX that will read the the satandard
"online bible" format.  Any one know about it?

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 19:53:20 -0500
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Could you be referring to His Word by Tom Hoover?
Tony Guzewicz

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The program which you are looking for is "HisWord" written by Tom Hoover.  Tom
has a web sight from which it can be down loaded.  (can't remember the URL off
hand.  if no one else has it, let me know & I'll find it.)  It is a really
super program.  I highly recommend it.  Also, The On Line Bible program will
run, too -- as long as you hav the latest program file.  I occasionally use
the OLB instead of HisWord for specialized searches which Tom has not yet
implemented.

Find it.  You'll like it.  Let me know if I can help.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:57:00 +0800
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              Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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Please forward a copy of your English-Bahasa Indonesia database files. I
would like to try and if possible copy it to a GDB file.

Thanks.

Jien Hung

At 10:03 AM 25/8/98 -700, you wrote:
>On 1998-08-24 Chin Jien Hung said:
> HP>Hi List,
> HP>Does anyone have any languages databases for Thai, Bahasa Indonesia,
> HP>Japanese or Tagalog? I would like to have a copy if possible.
> HP>Thanks in advance.
> HP>Jien Hung
>As a matter of fact, I do have a database files with english, Bahasa
>Indonesia. It was part of an old dos dictionary with an own search program
>that only worked when the floppies were used at boot up. I have the files
>from a to y (do not know what happened with the z). The text files contain
>the english words with an Indonesian translation separated by a comma, every
>new word on a new sentence.  I know that with the original program you could
>also look up the english translation for a Bahasa Indonesian word. I always
>wanted to try and make a search program for it to use it on my Palmtop but I
>never came to it. If you want to play with it, give me an email.
>Files 25, uncompressed 358 kb.
>
>IneedsignificantlymoreroominthislineforwhatIwanttosayhere
>
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:01:39 +0800
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              Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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At 03:00 PM 24/8/98 +0000, you wrote:
>> Does anyone have any languages databases for Thai, Bahasa Indonesia,
>> Japanese or Tagalog? I would like to have a copy if possible.
>>
>> Jien Hung
>
>What are these language databases? I never heard of such things before.
>I made a little database of Mandarin words in Notemaker once, but that
>was "homemade" and quite limited. Is there a commercial product of this
>kind?
>
>Mikhail
>

Yes, even a home brewed copy of GDB is a welcome. I am more interested in
Bahasa Indonesia, Malay and other asian languages as I travel more
frequently to these places. I do use travel guide, but if someone has
already done some input on the 200lx, I would like to beg for a copy.

Thanks.

Jien Hung
Singapore

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:10:43 -700
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              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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Comments: To: jhchin@pacific.net.sg

As soon as I am home again (8 hours from now) I will send you the files in a

self extracting file of about 139 kb. I assume that the english part has to
be corrected by an native english speaker because I found some highly
unusual words. Being dutch I do not posses the necessary knowledge.
The database has some words which are really double dutch to me. Think that
the search engine of the HP database is good enough to use for this
dictionary.
Regards

On 1998-08-25 jhchin@pacific.net.sg said:
 jh>Please forward a copy of your English-Bahasa Indonesia database
 jh>files. I would like to try and if possible copy it to a GDB file.
 jh>Thanks.
 jh>Jien Hung

 jh>> HP>Hi List,
 jh>> HP>Does anyone have any languages databases for Thai, Bahasa
 jh>>Indonesia,  HP>Japanese or Tagalog? I would like to have a copy if
 jh>>possible.  HP>Thanks in advance.
 jh>> HP>Jien Hung
 jh>>As a matter of fact, I do have a database files with english,
<snip>
 jh>give me an email. Files 25, uncompressed 358 kb. >
 jh>>IneedsignificantlymoreroominthislineforwhatIwanttosayhere
 jh>>Net-Tamer V 1.10  - Registered

This computer has a nut loose on the keyboard!

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Where did you find your DOS bibles?  Any downloadable? And maybe the NIV?
Thanks.

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Yes, ACAD only works on mine because I have 6 megs of RAM.

David

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>>>Press the "Menu" key at the same time. (I know, you need to
>>>have multi-jointed fingers!)
>>
>> Thanks for the reply.  You mean press Menu and the shift key?  That
didn't
>> work.  I tried all sorts of combinations of Menu and other keys,  the
>> closest I got was selecting from the cursor to the end or beginning of
the
>> file.  Must be something strange with this program.  Oh well, I can do
>> without.
>>
>> Danny

>You can also try using the numeric keys, remember the full-sized keyboard
>uses the numeric pad for cursor movement with the numlock off.

Couldn't get it to work using the numeric keys either, I think I tried all
combinations.

Someone asked what the complete problem was.  I'm trying to select text in
a DOS program (ftp://ftp.parallaxinc.com/pub/parallax/stamp2.exe).
Shift-arrow doesn't work as it should.

Thanks for all the suggestions,

Danny

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Dan writ...

> Someone asked what the complete problem was.  I'm trying to select text =
in
> a DOS program (ftp://ftp.parallaxinc.com/pub/parallax/stamp2.exe).
> Shift-arrow doesn't work as it should.
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions,
>
> Danny
>

Dan, programming BASIC Stamps w/ 200lx sounds cool. I almost got some of
their stuff last year. Still might, if I find time. I hope you invent
something cool for the 200lx community!

Darren.

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I recently discovered Toddy, and it looks really, really neat, but I can't get
it to work under DOSShell.

If I load it in the autoexec, Toddy /II /MRC:\_dat\toddy.mac (insert mode,
loads my saved macros) it works just fine before DOSShell is loaded, or if
DOSShell is loaded then exited, but it won't work in a dosshell DOS shell!

It has command line history, completion, file completion, macros, and who
knows what else...  :)  Takes up about 6.6k, but DOSKeys took up 5.2k with my
macros, so hey...

Good one to try if you haven't!  The URL my computer says I got it from is
http://freeflight.com/wrotniak/hplx/toddy.zip   (The homepage of the author of
EX..)

Someone let me know if they have any idea how to get it working with
DOSShell.. Thanks! :)

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Subject:      Re: HP200LX Processor
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At 15:33 24/08/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Does anyone know the exact name of the processor that the HP uses. I
>know that it's an 80C186 but is it the 186EA or 186XL or just the plain
>old 186.  It probably says it right on the chip but I haven't opened my
>palmtop.

It's an ASIC (application-specific integrated circuit), which integrates
the 186 core plus many other blocks (PCMCIA controller, DRAM controller,
and so on).

I guess what you expect to get is the datasheet. Forget it, if there's any,
HP will not release it. All the available info about the ASIC is in the
developer's manual.

Regards. Nacho.

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Parque Tecnologico de Valencia
Calle A3, Paterna (Valencia) 46980
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:03:07 +0200
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>----------
>From:  Wellner, Harry SIOP-OGBH/7
>Sent:  25 August 1998 11:00
>To:    'Mikhail Epelbaum'
>Subject:       RE: erratic Fn key
>
>Simply spray it .... !!!!
>
>Harry
>
>----------
>From:  Mikhail EpelbaumSMTP:mepelbaum@attcanada.net
>Sent:  24 August 1998 17:15
>To:    Wellner, Harry SIOP-OGBH/7; HPLX Mailing List
>Subject:       Re: erratic Fn key
>
>Harry - do you diassemble the case fo this or simply spray arounf the
>actual key on the keyboard. I've never taken my HP apart, am afraid to
>intoduce more problems...
>
>Mikhail
>
>> I recently had the SAME problem: resolved that easily by using a
>> so-called 'contact-spray'.
>>
>> Switch off the machine, use the spray gently around the key. Press the
>> key a couple of times (30-40) and then power on the machine and see
>> whether problem is solved. In my case I had to repeat the above
>> descriped step a second time. Afterall problem resolved within 2
>> minutes.
>>
>> Harry Wellner, Gouda-Netherlands
>
>
>
>
>

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AFAIK there are two reasons for nonworking keys:

1) Only one key fails always and your unit has never been
opened or upgraded, and putting more pressure on this
particular key helps. Then it is likely, that you have a bad
key contact and a contact spray may help. No need to
disassemble the unit.

2) More than one key fails from time to time and your unit has
been upgraded and putting pressure on the lower right corner of
the case (*NOT THE KEY*) helps, then you have a bad keyboard
cable connection and contact spray does not help. You have to
open the unit, clean the connector and make sure that it has
good contact after closing the unit again.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:36:17 -0400
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              Mike Hendricks <mdh2@ANDREW.CMU.EDU>
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Tom Hoover's web page is pobox.com/~thoover.  You can dowload HisWord
from there.

Michael Hendricks

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:25:48 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: erratic Fn key

To keep yor keeys clean is like
keeping yor body healthy. Do PM
(Preventintive medicine/maintenance)
periodically and consistantly.  In
the kase of the keys, use an air can
to blow away the gunk and lint that
accumulates at the edge of the keys.
It keeps the kontacs kleaner longer.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:13:58 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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A little off topic, but perhaps some of the DOS experts will know the
answer...  I notice that one can select different word widths for the
COM port - most common values are 7 and 8 bits.  But you can also select
5 bits, which is what one would use with a Baudot coded terminal.  Does
DOS (either the BIOS or DOS iteself) have any support for other codes
besides ASCII?  What about Baudot?  Anyway to turn on/off recognition
of a Baudot device attached to a COM port?

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:44:50 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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Subject:      Re: <blank> Hisword Palmtop Bible
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At 06:14 PM 8/24/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Folks,
>
>Whicle I have a number of DOS bibles, I recall reading somewhere that
>there is a program writen for the HPLX that will read the the satandard
>"online bible" format.  Any one know about it?

check out HISWORD at http://www.qsl.net/n5ntm/hisword.htm




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HP200LX: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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no practical value."
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:49:25 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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At 10:13 PM 8/24/98 EDT, you wrote:
>Where did you find your DOS bibles?  Any downloadable? And maybe the NIV?
>Thanks.
>
the King James version(AV) and the AV_RSV versions are there for download.
The AV_NIV version is there too, but you have to register to read it.




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Macon Amateur Radio Club W4BKM: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/marc/marc.html
HP200LX: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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over wires and that, were it possible to do so, the thing would be of
no practical value."
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Like most people, I've been _faithfully_ reading my HPLX listserver
messages for about the last 12 months.  And I've blissfully ignored
anything about the built-in application Palmtop Quicken since I wasn't
using it.  Well, low and behold!  I've started to use it now and I would
like to "import" my files to my Quicken 98.  Well when I tried to do that,
I noticed how Intuit has decided to IGNORE transferring the old "PDT"
format to the new QIF format (thank you very much......NOT!).

So now my dilemma.  Does anyone know of a PDT to QIF converter application?
I'm not a "power" user of Quicken, and I don't want to transfer files back
and forth.  I only want to transfer files one way........to my laptop and
Quicken 98 so I can use the expanded capabilities of Quicken 98 to sort,
print and view charts.

TIA
Jim J.
Carmel, IN

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:29:56 -0400
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              John Guenther <jguenthe@NAFIS.FP.TRW.COM>
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I purchased Pocket Quicken Connect direct from Intuit back in April and use
it every day with Quicken 98 to transfer / synchronize my pocket quicken
with Quicken 98.  Works great, it installs as an icon on the Quicken98 menu
bar.  I suggest you contact them directly since the last time I looked on
their web site I couldn't find reference to it.  I think it was something
like $69.00 but I don't remember for sure.

John Guenther

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn Behalf Of
> Jim Johnson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 9:33 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: PDT to QIF Converter?
>
>
> Like most people, I've been _faithfully_ reading my HPLX listserver
> messages for about the last 12 months.  And I've blissfully ignored
> anything about the built-in application Palmtop Quicken since I wasn't
> using it.  Well, low and behold!  I've started to use it now and I would
> like to "import" my files to my Quicken 98.  Well when I tried to do that,
> I noticed how Intuit has decided to IGNORE transferring the old "PDT"
> format to the new QIF format (thank you very much......NOT!).
>
> So now my dilemma.  Does anyone know of a PDT to QIF converter
> application?
> I'm not a "power" user of Quicken, and I don't want to transfer files back
> and forth.  I only want to transfer files one way........to my laptop and
> Quicken 98 so I can use the expanded capabilities of Quicken 98 to sort,
> print and view charts.
>
> TIA
> Jim J.
> Carmel, IN
>
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On 1998-08-24 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
   >DOes anyone know of either IRC or MIRC software that will work on
   >the palmtop.
   >TIA
   >Tony

The XT version of Nettamer is supposed to have IRC capability and run
on a 200LX, I haven't tried so I dont know for sure............

Paul Yarnell
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better than a cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup.

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:59:05 -0400
To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
From: cardosa@tm.net.my (Lawrence Cardosa)
Subject: HPLX-L Form Response


Subscriber Comments: A friends lx200 is broken a the hinge.  So we sent
it to the local hp centre and the estimate came to the cost of a new
one..

Huh, so I opened the palmtop, repaired and reinforced the joints and it
was almost as good as new.  But my ichy fingers made me spray some wd40
lubricant at the hinge to loosen it up.   After that, day by day, more
and more lines started appearing on the screen.  I figured that
lubricant being an electroliytic, actually shorted the connections to
the lcd screen.  So I washed with alcohol to remove the lubricant.
Upon reinstalling, the screen went completely blue. I then totally
dismantled the lcd, but it still does not help. I can see that the
computer is still functioning ok as I can see a vague outline of the
different dialog screens as we press the various buttons. Does anyone
have an idea what I could do next, short of sending it back to HP
service centre? Thanks Lawrence

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:50:30 -0400
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From: "Philip Khoo" <philip.khoo@keppelcomms.com.sg>
To: <HPLX-L-request@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Message for members who asked
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:05:04 +0800

Hi
Just got on to the HPLX-L list. Tried to send a short mail in respond to =
two
enquiries on Bible but rejected by system, thought perhaps send via this
address.
Thanks

Message:

Bible on Palm Top
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>
>>Hi
>>To those who would like to have the Bible in their PalmTop, try Tom
>Hoover's
>>site at http://www.qsl.net/n5ntm
>>
>>Another way is to go to some of those site where the complete bible is
>>hosted, read the html and save in text then transfer to the palmtop, =
but
>due
>>to the size of the file, I carry one book at a time and download =
another
>>when one is done. One such site is
>>http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?search=3D&maxmatches=3D10&version=3DRSV
>>
>>Happy reading & God Bless
>>Philip Khoo
>>Singapore
>>
>
>





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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:49:55 -0700
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              Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
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Folks,

I've been looking for a freeform database such as MemoryMate as described
by Jim Seymour in his 1991 book "PC Productivity Bible".

What I found is a program called askSam. The company still sells the DOS
version but as with many others their main focus seems to be the Windows
version. Their brochure is way to long to send by way of this list.
I wrote to check system requirements.
=========================edited reply=============
From: Jim Hartman <jhartman@asksam.com>
Thank you for your return inquiry.  The DOS Version requires the following:
DOS 3.0 or higher  1 Mg. Hard Disk Space  384 Kb of RAM
You can run it on a 186 with a CGA screen.
================================================

The pricing is however rather high

===askSam Price List
Windows Products askSam 3.0 ..................... 149.95
                 askSam Professional ............ 395.00

DOS PRODUCT:       askSam 5.1 .................... 395.00
=====================================================

I wrote and suggested they re-evaluate their pricing on the DOS product.
If this product is something you might like I would encourage you to write
to Mr. Jim Hartman <jhartman@asksam.com>
and tell him the same thing.

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:55:50 -0700
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Jim,

It is built into your Palmtop version of Quicken. I use it daily.
Open quicken, back out to the account screen.  Select menu
the export a screen asking what dates to export will appear. Select the
dates you want and then ok.

Your windows version of Quicken will import the resulting QIF files.


On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Jim Johnson wrote:

> So now my dilemma.  Does anyone know of a PDT to QIF converter application?
> I'm not a "power" user of Quicken, and I don't want to transfer files back
> and forth.  I only want to transfer files one way........to my laptop and
> Quicken 98 so I can use the expanded capabilities of Quicken 98 to sort,
> print and view charts.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:03:59 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Bibles
In-Reply-To:  <3.0.5.32.19980825094925.007ade10@pop.hom.net> from "Owen
              Samuelson" at Aug 25, 98 09:49:25 am
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> the King James version(AV) and the AV_RSV versions are there for download.
> The AV_NIV version is there too, but you have to register to read it.

Owen:

To what site are you refering?  I could only find the KJ (AV) file on Tom
Hoover's site.  Where are you seeing the RSV and NIV versions?

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 23:26:18 +0800
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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>So now my dilemma.  Does anyone know of a PDT to QIF converter application?
>I'm not a "power" user of Quicken, and I don't want to transfer files back
>and forth.  I only want to transfer files one way........to my laptop and
>Quicken 98 so I can use the expanded capabilities of Quicken 98 to sort,
>print and view charts.
Hi Jim

I havent been on it for a while but the Intuit web site was VERY informative
when I last looked..maybe a hint there

www.intuit.com from memory

Hope this helps

Russell

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:15:45 +0100
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Comments: To: rclott@RO.COM

Hmm, thought baudot devices were mostly current loop?

On 08-25 02:13pm, you wrote:

> A little off topic, but perhaps some of the DOS experts will know the
> answer...  I notice that one can select different word widths for the
> COM port - most common values are 7 and 8 bits.  But you can also select
> 5 bits, which is what one would use with a Baudot coded terminal.  Does
> DOS (either the BIOS or DOS iteself) have any support for other codes
> besides ASCII?  What about Baudot?  Anyway to turn on/off recognition
> of a Baudot device attached to a COM port?

Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.20beta) REGISTERED

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:48:23 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> I havent been on it for a while but the Intuit web site was VERY informative
> when I last looked..maybe a hint there

You're experience with their site is completely opposite from mine.  I had
a *very* simple question regarding my Turbo Tax program (how to enable the
cents, instead of rounding to the nearest dollar). I searched their site
for an hour and just gave up.  I didn't find it at all helpful.  Couldn't
even find an e-mail address to send my query to.  Sigh....

-Chris

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:30:08 -0500
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hello fellow lxers,

If any of you are looking for the model xj1144 pcmcia modem I ordered and
received three from resource concepts inc. They have a web site at
www.resourcesales.com.  I called and ordered mine. They are only $10 each!!!  I
don't know what the shipping is for one but they only charged me $6.96 to ship
the three I puchased for my 200lx and for the 200lx my wife uses (plus a spare at
that price!). I had no trouble getting them to work with the data comm app and I
am typing this using ms-kermit for dos under dos and it seems quite happy.  I
did not get any docs or rj11 cables but at this price I guess you can't complain and
I must add that one of the units did not work well but Resource has provided an RMA for
an exchange. It would have been discouraging if that would have been the only one I'd
ordered because it would have led me to believe it would not work with my LX.
Fortunately the other two function ok.

I'm sorry I do not know the current draw for this model but I know an associate who
purchased one of these NEW for his LX and he has used it successfully for over a year
so I felt it was a safe choice. I hope to borrow his documentation and glean such specs
and optional "AT" commands in the coming weeks.

When I placed my order with Resource Sales via telephone they said they had a
bunch of 'em and they said if they didn't work for any reason they would credit
my account on return.  Here's the complete ordering info:

Resource Concepts
2940 Eisenhower St. #130
Carrollton, TX 75007
USA
phone 972-245-5050
fax 972-245-8340

item descr   megahertz 14.4 x-jack pcmcia
item # MXJ144
price $10.00 each plus shipping
------------------

Keith Ensor
mc_kensor@yorkhospital.edu


--------------------------------------------------------
Name: Keith E. Ensor, Sr. Communications Analyst
E-mail: kensor@yorkhospital.edu
@Date: 08/25/1998      Time: 11:30:09

York Hospital, 1001 S. George St.,York, PA  17405
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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> Sent:         Tuesday, August 25, 1998 9:15 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: COM Port - Codes?
>
> Hmm, thought baudot devices were mostly current loop?
>
> On 08-25 02:13pm, you wrote:
>
> > A little off topic, but perhaps some of the DOS experts will know the
> > answer...  I notice that one can select different word widths for the
> > COM port - most common values are 7 and 8 bits.  But you can also select
> > 5 bits, which is what one would use with a Baudot coded terminal.  Does
> > DOS (either the BIOS or DOS iteself) have any support for other codes
> > besides ASCII?  What about Baudot?  Anyway to turn on/off recognition
> > of a Baudot device attached to a COM port?
>
> Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.20beta) REGISTERED
>
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              "Carson, Jon A." <JACarson@ADDCOINC.COM>
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Hi,


> ----------
> From:         Steven LawsonSMTP:stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM
> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List;stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM
> Sent:         Tuesday, August 25, 1998 9:15 AM
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>
> Hmm, thought baudot devices were mostly current loop?
>
They are ( especially Teletypes ) !.   Some Amateur Radio equipment is still
Baudot, and I suspect that the "TDD" Terminals for the deaf are Baudot.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:18:56 -0700
Reply-To:     Tim Shephard <tim.shephard@bigfoot.com>
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Can someone explain to me what sort/lx does?

I see that it does a backup of the address file, which is nice.  But
when it says that it is sorting, what is it doing?  Alphabetizing?

Thanks

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments)
http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:26:17 +0100
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              Antonio Queiroz Menezes <abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT>
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Owen refers to Tom's ftp site acessible from his web page.
>
>
> To what site are you refering?  I could only find the KJ (AV) file on Tom
> Hoover's site.  Where are you seeing the RSV and NIV versions?
>
> -Chris Lott
>
>

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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:30:58 -0400
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              John Guenther <jguenthe@NAFIS.FP.TRW.COM>
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Subject:      Re: megahertz xjack modems available
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I just called them, they said they are all sold out, but should have more in
a couple of weeks.

John Guenther
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn Behalf Of
> Keith Ensor
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 12:30 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: megahertz xjack modems available
>
>
> hello fellow lxers,
>
> If any of you are looking for the model xj1144 pcmcia modem I ordered and
> received three from resource concepts inc. They have a web site at
> www.resourcesales.com.  I called and ordered mine. They are only
> $10 each!!!  I
> don't know what the shipping is for one but they only charged me
> $6.96 to ship
> the three I puchased for my 200lx and for the 200lx my wife uses
> (plus a spare at
> that price!). I had no trouble getting them to work with the data
> comm app and I
> am typing this using ms-kermit for dos under dos and it seems
> quite happy.  I
> did not get any docs or rj11 cables but at this price I guess you
> can't complain and
> I must add that one of the units did not work well but Resource
> has provided an RMA for
> an exchange. It would have been discouraging if that would have
> been the only one I'd
> ordered because it would have led me to believe it would not work
> with my LX.
> Fortunately the other two function ok.
>
> I'm sorry I do not know the current draw for this model but I
> know an associate who
> purchased one of these NEW for his LX and he has used it
> successfully for over a year
> so I felt it was a safe choice. I hope to borrow his
> documentation and glean such specs
> and optional "AT" commands in the coming weeks.
>
> When I placed my order with Resource Sales via telephone they
> said they had a
> bunch of 'em and they said if they didn't work for any reason
> they would credit
> my account on return.  Here's the complete ordering info:
>
> Resource Concepts
> 2940 Eisenhower St. #130
> Carrollton, TX 75007
> USA
> phone 972-245-5050
> fax 972-245-8340
>
> item descr   megahertz 14.4 x-jack pcmcia
> item # MXJ144
> price $10.00 each plus shipping
> ------------------
>
> Keith Ensor
> mc_kensor@yorkhospital.edu
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Name: Keith E. Ensor, Sr. Communications Analyst
> E-mail: kensor@yorkhospital.edu
> @Date: 08/25/1998      Time: 11:30:09
>
> York Hospital, 1001 S. George St.,York, PA  17405
> voice 717-851-2641, fax 717-851-4381
> --------------------------------------------------------
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:58:38 +0200
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I have been at the forefront of technology all my life, thanks in no small
part to HP products. Now, however, I am humbled by my colleagues as they
whip out their 3Com palm pilots and synchronize to their Outlook
appointments on our corporate desktops.

I have tried the CE machines, and find that they give "reverse engineering"
a new meaning.. So I sit punching in Outlook appointments on my LX200
waiting for some innovative spirit to make us a sync. utility that doesn't
involve batch file gymnastics of Olympic proportions.

There must be someone out there willing to take my good money in exchange
for an Exchange connection!

The 200LX runs (almost) all the software I need, is small enough to pass
off as my brain in reserve, and lasts a fourthnight on a charge. I am not
adverse to change, and would gladly buy a new PDA if only it was a step up
on the evolutionary ladder. Unfortunately the pinnacle position of the
200LX makes that unlikely to happen within the next 12 months.

So I challenge all you C++ jocks out there: Get your Briefs out and start
wringing out some  useful code!

Hopefully yours,
Paul R.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:08:29 -0400
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WD-40 is *NOT A LUBRICANT*!.  WD stands for water displacement.  That's
why people used it (before fuel injection) to spray on their
distributors and spark plug wires to help a car start in the wet.  I
forget what's in it, but it could leave some residue that is shorting
something out.

This topic comes up all the time on the .bicycle newsgroups.  Don't use
WD-40 on your bike chain either.  A good bike lube like tri-flow
(includes teflon) works fine on my lx's hinges.

Al Kind wrote:
>
> --- begin of forwarded message ---
> Huh, so I opened the palmtop, repaired and reinforced the joints and it
> was almost as good as new.  But my ichy fingers made me spray some wd40
> lubricant at the hinge to loosen it up.

--
Jim Krist                                        jtkrist@clark.net

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:20:32 -0500
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I experienced the same problem, in my case I  open the LX and cleaned the contacts which the keyboard ribbon is pressed against.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:25:26 -0500
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Doing some more digging through my books and found a couple more that
could be useful.  All are 10$ + shipping OBO:

Microsoft Window v2.1
Covers Windows, Desktop Applications, Paint, and Write.  Good condition
with some wear include a reciept for the purchase of PC ANYWHERE III, MS
Windows, and some disks from Saudi Arabia :-)

Using 1 2 3 (2nd edition)
This covers release 2 of 123.  Cover is welll worn, but all pages are
intact.

MSDOS 5.0 User's Guide and Reference from NEC
Probably shipped orginally with a NEC computer, though seems to be a
standard version with no NEC specifics.  Excellent shape.

Wordperfect 5.1 for DOS (Reference for IBM PC and PC Networks)
Appears to be an orginal reference manual for WP 5.1.  It is in
excellent shape except for creases on the back cover.

I also still have some Megahertz 14.4 X-Jack (XJ1144) PCMCIA modems for
sale. For more information check out:
   http://www.telepath.com/pillar/xjack.html

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Stan Hall
Pillar Communication
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:26:09 -0500
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Ummm...  As far as I can remember, Spice 2g6 works on the Palmtop...  It's
been a while since I've tried it, but I am pretty sure it worked.  Although,
it was faster to write the code on the palmtop, find the modem, dial a
computer on campus, upload it to the computer, strip the <CR>'s, and run the
spice on the remote machine on my code piped into a file, and then download
that file for the answer.  :)

There are a few different ones out there, three or four I tried..
circan10.zip has two analysis programs in it, neither I bothered to tool with,
but perform circuit analysis.  I'd suggest you trying Shareware.COM, search
for spice on DOS platform.  The last entry is spice2g6, ignore the 'directory'
it's listed as being in, os2.

Also, Yahoo, search for spice circuit analysis, then click on web pages.
You'll find lots of references, one of them appears to be the official Spice
homepage.

--
 -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.. .
 .  Walter Francis                                               _. KT4LH  .
 -      HP200LX  A2000  Alinco DJ580  Icom 281  Kenwood 530S   o:o         -
 .  Wally@POP.UKY.EDU                           http://sac.uky.edu/~wally  .
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:49:18 PDT
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Subject:      LXGPS 1.4 now available

LXGPS version 1.4 is now available from: http://www.jps.net/renda/greg/

LXGPS interfaces your HP 100/200LX palmtop to a GPS receiver that
communicates using the standard NMEA 0183 protocol over a serial line.

Changes in version 1.4 include:

    + added require NMEA checksums option.

    + added Trimble TAIP protocol support.

    + added support for GPGLL sentence.

    + fixed another problem with large timezone offsets.

    + fixed problem with altitudes > 32767 feet.

    + added user customizable cursor for map display.

    + display bearing to waypoint and course on map display.

    + improved file browser.

    + added displayed waypoint filter for map display.

-Greg

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:12:30 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> ... waiting for some innovative spirit to make us a sync. utility that doesn't
> involve batch file gymnastics of Olympic proportions.

What's wrong w/batch file gymnastics?  Seems like it would be easier to
just run a batch file rather than all that pointing, clicking and dragging
that is required of GUI-based OS's.  I would much rather have a batch file
to run that would perform the sync-ing operation than rely on my error-prone
fingers to click the right sequence of buttons each and every day!

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:54:59 -0400
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              John Guenther <jguenthe@NAFIS.FP.TRW.COM>
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I have recently embarked on a project to do just that.  I too want a way to
sync up Outlook98 and my HP200lx, without entering everything twice.  My
intent is to be as close to "one button" as I can get, and still allow some
flexibility of field mapping, although I am not sure what that would really
buy us.  This will wind up being a share ware product with a nominal
registration fee.  I have almost finished documenting a process which will
allow a temporary one way, Outlook98 to HP200 transfer of data using the
connectivity pack and other freeware / shareware utilities.  This process is
not what I intend to ultimately provide, but it will allow transfer of
Outlook98 data to the HP200 in a fairly simple manor.  I will try to send
this out by the end of this week.  The current problem I am having with the
this temporary process involves the calendar.  I will keep this list posted
as to the progress.  You can send me private email with suggestions or post
them to the list.

John Guenther

> -----Original Message-----
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> Paal Rasmussen
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 12:59 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Embarrassed HP user
>
>
> I have been at the forefront of technology all my life, thanks in no small
> part to HP products. Now, however, I am humbled by my colleagues as they
> whip out their 3Com palm pilots and synchronize to their Outlook
> appointments on our corporate desktops.
>
> I have tried the CE machines, and find that they give "reverse
> engineering"
> a new meaning.. So I sit punching in Outlook appointments on my LX200
> waiting for some innovative spirit to make us a sync. utility that doesn't
> involve batch file gymnastics of Olympic proportions.
>
> There must be someone out there willing to take my good money in exchange
> for an Exchange connection!
>
> The 200LX runs (almost) all the software I need, is small enough to pass
> off as my brain in reserve, and lasts a fourthnight on a charge. I am not
> adverse to change, and would gladly buy a new PDA if only it was a step up
> on the evolutionary ladder. Unfortunately the pinnacle position of the
> 200LX makes that unlikely to happen within the next 12 months.
>
> So I challenge all you C++ jocks out there: Get your Briefs out and start
> wringing out some  useful code!
>
> Hopefully yours,
> Paul R.
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:14:34 -0400
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              River Wolf <rivrwolf@HOM.NET>
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I was wondering if anyone had ever seen a GPS program for the 200lx with the
following characteristics:

Ability to graphically show you where you are in the world (think of the HP
world time app)
Ability to graphically show you the cities closest to you, and a rough idea
of terrain.

I love street level maps, but most (almost all) the time I just want an idea
of where in a country I am. It's kind of a macro-level approach. Plus it's
something I think would fit in my palmtop all the time, rather than loading
up or building small maps from my laptop. The closest I would want to zoom
in is 100 square kilometers. Anything beyond that and I will build
street-level maps.

--Patrick McGouirk

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:30:04 -0700
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              Danny Gaudenti <gaudent@QNET.COM>
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>Dan, programming BASIC Stamps w/ 200lx sounds cool. I almost got some of
>their stuff last year. Still might, if I find time. I hope you invent
>something cool for the 200lx community!
>
>Darren.

Yep, should be great if it works...what better way to program this
easy-to-use uC than using a palmtop?  I have used an 87C51 at work and want
to play around with a uC at home, but don't want to buy a programmer,
eraser and certainly not an In-Circuit Emulator.  The BASIC Stamp seems
like a good solution.  If you want to try a Stamp, don't buy their kit.
The software and documentation is free for the downloading and the cable is
easy to make.  I'm just going to buy the Stamp itself (BS2-IC).

Danny

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:51:33 -0400
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Clock Program (CLKB)

Relief! Jeff's problem did not have anything to do with CLKB.

I have uploaded a new set of TSR clock programs to Super: one for the all=

PC's (except LX), one for laptops with APM and one for the LX. =


In all versions: to see the date for two seconds, press the ALT key. I ca=
n
never remember which date it is.

The versions for HP-LX and laptops with Advanced Power Management system
(most newer laptops) have been changed so they now display the battery
level continuously. It began to irritate me that I had to wait up to
nearly a minute whenever it scrolled off the screen.

Following Walther's and David's advice, I have included a simple config
program for the HP-LX version, which will allow you to change the
maximum voltage to reflect the type of battery you are using. The
default is still 3V (alkaline batteries) but you can now change that to
any (reasonable) voltage. For my NiCd batteries, I use 2.7V.

Jorgen

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:58:38 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Hey Patrick
Do you have a bunch of street level maps?
Would like to have a few of your better
ones.  would you mind telling me your
procedure of how you do them.

My problem is that no matter what I do I
can't get them small and readable.
Like 10-20K and still read street names.
It would be a big help.  Maybe my scanner
is not up to it?

Thanks...........
Please upload to hobchi@aol.com
Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:20:24 -0500
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              Hal <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<How can this be?  I thought that palmtops have been running SC for
years
before the latest LX-tailored version came out.  In fact, seems like
this
was covered in the PTP a couple of years ago - comparing SC and
DOSSHELL.
Exactly what won't run?>>

SC has been available for a couple of years on the HP Palmtop and we
reviewed it in PTP when it first became available -- the review you are
referring to. Interestingly enough, HP 200LX user, Stanley Kubrick (2001
Space Odyssey) encouraged SC authors to make the port from the PC to the
Palmtop.

About a year ago, the SC authors went out of business and stopped
supporting their product. I did a search on the net and located the
email address of one of the authors. We negotiated a price, they made a
few bug fixes, and Thaddeus Computing has become the distributor for the
product.  The PC version won't run on the Palmtop.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:23:21 -0500
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<<Beg to differ, I found a copy of SC in the cutout bin of my favorite
pre-owned software shop($.79) version 5.03, and it works well enough.
From what I read here, you lose the ability to call the built in
programs with the blue keys(?) that the palmtop version has, but gain
a neat little clipboard feature called "snap-n-snip."
It is nice to move from WP to Agenda in the virtual blink of an eye.>>

That is news to me (obviously<g>). I am surprised. The authors
explicitly took the clipboard out in the Palmtop version because of
incompatibilities.  Probably a trade-off because the palmtop version
supports the application keys and the alarm clock.

- Hal from Thaddeus

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:38:47 -0500
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<<the screen went completely blue. I then totally
dismantled the lcd, but it still does not help. I can see that the
computer is still functioning ok as I can see a vague outline of the
different dialog screens as we press the various buttons. Does anyone
have an idea what I could do next, short of sending it back to HP
service centre? Thanks Lawrence>>


We'll repair any palmtop for $125.

Hal Goldstein
Thaddeus Computing
110 North Court St.
Fairfield, IA 52556
515 472 6330
fax: 515 472 1879
hal@thaddeus.com or CompuServe: 75300,2443
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After sitting down with my HP200 and updating lxdr, I got the urge to do =
some more HP programming. The result is something I call the Virtual =
Ruler. With it, you can use the HP's screen as a ruler (big deal!) at =
normal scale, or (and this is the cool part) you can estimate the =
distance of objects (of known height) up to 400 yds. away, estimate the =
height of objects (at a known distance) or estimate the distance to a =
point given your height above the ground.
=20
My own tests (on the golf course) have found it to be reasonably =
accurate, but I need additional feedback.
=20
I'm looking for 10 volunteers to give it a try, so I can polish it up =
nice and shiny. Email me direct if you can try it and have time to =
provide me with comments.
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thx
rick

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:53:21 -0500
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              Hal <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<WHY is this the recommended method, rather than leaving the 32 megs as
drive F: ?>>


No technical reason. People are used to having C drive their main drive.
Mack created the swap driver after he had created everything else. It is
not necessary.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:53:57 -0800
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              Mark Larson <larsomar@UCS.ORST.EDU>
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I have a some older issues of The Palmtop Paper magazine
for sale.

$1.50 each + shipping

*1994 (volume 3)
-Number 1
-Number 2
-Number 3
-Number 4
-Number 5
-Number 6

*1995 (volume 4)
-Bonus Issue 1
-Bonus 1995 Review
-Number 1
-Number 2
-Number 3
-Number 4
-Number 5
-Number 6

*1996 (volume 5)
-Bonus Issue 1
-Number 1
-Number 2

Please email me personally on issues that you are interested in.

Mark
larsomar@ucs.orst.edu

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:09:20 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" <RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL>
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Subject:      LISTSERV commands?

Hi All,

I'm about to take a quick "out of office" break 10ish days, or so.

In other LISTSERVs I've belonged to, like this one, you were able to send
commands to the Listserver that would return LOTS of cool automatic info.
One message like:

"GET INFO" (minus the quotes)

would give you the basic instruction sheet to execute these commands.

Will:

"SET NOMAIL"

work for this list and temporarily turn things off?  I don't want you all
SPAMMed by my out off office message, but the list may get it once, late WED
or early THURS, if I don't resolve this one.

We use MS Exchange server and I don't know how/know of a DOS-based version
of exchange for me to remotely log into the server w/ my palmtop and read my
mail would like to hear of a way to do this too.

TIA

--tim


CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs
Chief, Command Information - 254-287-4003
---------------------------------
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email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil
71250.1550@compuserve.com


-----Original Message-----
From: R. Christopher Lott mailto:rclott@RO.COM
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 8:14 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: COM Port - Codes?


A little off topic, but perhaps some of the DOS experts will know the
answer...  I notice that one can select different word widths for the
COM port - most common values are 7 and 8 bits.  But you can also select
5 bits, which is what one would use with a Baudot coded terminal.  Does
DOS (either the BIOS or DOS iteself) have any support for other codes
besides ASCII?  What about Baudot?  Anyway to turn on/off recognition
of a Baudot device attached to a COM port?

-Chris Lott

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On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:

> Will:
>
> "SET NOMAIL"
>
> work for this list and temporarily turn things off?  I don't want you all
> SPAMMed by my out off office message, but the list may get it once, late WED
> or early THURS, if I don't resolve this one.

Send the message:

set hplx-l nomail

to listserv@uconnvm.uconn.edu and it will send you a confirmation that you
will no longer receive messages from the list, until you send a 'set
hplx-l mail' message to turn it back on.

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DUH!
Thanks Patrick...and to others that replied.  I was looking for the IMPORT
command and didn't think to try the HPLX EXPORT command on the LX.  Works
fine.  Can you import Credit Card accounts too?  Still learning.   I did
notice that you have to name the file with a "QIF" extention since it did
not default to that.
Thanks!
Jim J.
Carmel, IN





Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM> on 08/25/98 09:55:50 AM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
      respond to Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>

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Subject:  Re: PDT to QIF Converter?




Jim,

It is built into your Palmtop version of Quicken. I use it daily.
Open quicken, back out to the account screen.  Select menu
the export a screen asking what dates to export will appear. Select the
dates you want and then ok.

Your windows version of Quicken will import the resulting QIF files.


On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Jim Johnson wrote:

> So now my dilemma.  Does anyone know of a PDT to QIF converter
application?
> I'm not a "power" user of Quicken, and I don't want to transfer files
back
> and forth.  I only want to transfer files one way........to my laptop and
> Quicken 98 so I can use the expanded capabilities of Quicken 98 to sort,
> print and view charts.

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 07:45:28 +0800
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Hi all

I have an XJ1144 Megahertz modem with a brocken (cracked) XJack.

Does anyone know where I can get the actual part as a spare??  The modem
works fine..Just the connector mechanism..  I've tried gluing and its too
fragile to be of long term use.

Any ideas?

TIA

Russell

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:06:45 -0700
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Russell,

As a last resort, I have a really bad idea. Get an extender from Radio
shack. Attach the pug on the extender to the broken xjack and glue it ALL
together.  Then just plug the line into the other end of the extender.





On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Russell Hemery wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I have an XJ1144 Megahertz modem with a brocken (cracked) XJack.
>
> Does anyone know where I can get the actual part as a spare??  The modem
> works fine..Just the connector mechanism..  I've tried gluing and its too
> fragile to be of long term use.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> TIA
>
> Russell
>
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:28:13 -0400
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Comments: To: Owen Kalau <owenk@CANUCK.COM>
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On Sun, 23 Aug 1998, Owen Kalau wrote:

OK> I seem to remember someone mentioning a flakey 'b' key...
OK> I was afraid I was alone on this! Occasionally, when I hit the 'b'
OK> hard, it types bv <--- I even did it there! =)

I was the one. Mine does nothing if I hit it softly, and works correctly
if I hit it hard.

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On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Jim Saklad wrote:

> I was the one. Mine does nothing if I hit it softly, and works correctly
> if I hit it hard.

This problem, I've always been able to fix by cleaning out under the key
with a little rubbing alcohol and a Q-tip.

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              Gary Spiers <garys@IBM.NET>
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> Ability to graphically show you the cities closest to you, and a rough =
idea
> of terrain.

The USGS has a global terrain database that is on a 1km x 1km grid,
just altitude data - occupies over 2GB.

> The closest I would want to zoom in is 100 square kilometers.
> Anything beyond that and I will build street-level maps.

OK that cuts the size down to 200MB and if you throw out all the
oceans (not as trivial as it sounds as the data set is just altitude
values on a regularly spaced grid) you are down to a 70MB global data
base - still with no city data included. I guess you could prune it
further to just the continent/country you are in. Would culling the
city database from the builtin world database be sufficient?

I have something I wrote that does most of this (except the GPS input) =
for the
full 2GB data set running on my desktop. Unfortunately it is a Windows
Fortran 90 application (yes really!). I think the palmtop version needs
to be in C to take advantage of the PAL libraries. I have been meaning
to dig myself into C for sometime now - just really busy. Hmm how long
can you wait<G>?

GaryS

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:54:57 -0300
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From:         Eduardo Cesana <ecesana@E-NET.COM.BR>
Organization: ECOLOGICA
Subject:      Re: Portuguese Dictionary for HPLX
Comments: To: Winfried Zettelmeyer <wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES>
Comments: cc: Al Chin <Hobchi@AOL.COM>
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On 19 Aug 98 at 18:58, Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:

> Hi friends,
> has anybody heard of a Portuguese dictionary for the HPLX to
> Spanish, English, French or German ?

I have a list of Portuguese words that can be processed for use with
the PE for spell check purpose. I've done the processing but never
tested. May be in future. I don't write very much in the HPLX, but in
the desktop I use WORD 7 with an excellent spell check and and
personal dictionary with about 15.000 words.

For mail I use the Spell Checker 3.0 with the same list of Portuguese
word. The Spell Checker is SW available at
http://clever.net/quinion/spell.

The Spell Checker as many foreign languages but Portuguese.

I never got a list of words equivalence in English-Portuguese.

If you want the Portuguese word list drop me a letter. It is in
public domain.
ݨs


Eduardo Cesana

ECOLOGICA Tecnologia & Controle Ambiental Ltda
Tel +55 (0)71 375-3311  Fax +55 (0)71 375-1141
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:32:01 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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OK guy, I'm in....
send me what I need to:
hobchi@aol.com

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 01:44:40 GMT
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Subject:      batteries

Hello

I posted, a few months ago, about a set of NiMH batteries sold by
batteries plus. Well they are 1300 mAH batteries and work pretty
well but they have one defect. The terminals get corroded and they
will start giving you low battery messages after a few months. Clean
the terminals and they are fine. I also thought of a differant way
to find the current consumption of the 200LX and the average time
your batteries should last. Take the length of time the batteries
are charged divide that by the load current, and multiply
that by your average charging current. That should give you the average
length of time the batteries will last per use. It seems to work
at least the one time I tested my batteries with a clock seemed
to match up pretty well. Have a good one:).

John

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 02:54:58 +0000
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              Mikhail Epelbaum <mepelbaum@ATTCANADA.NET>
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> distance of objects (of known height) up to 400 yds. away, estimate the
> height of objects (at a known distance) or estimate the distance to a
> point given your height above the ground.
>

Rick - is your method going to be limited to just 400 yards? I have a
need for something similar, but on a several miles scale (coastal
navigation on a sailboat).

Mikhail

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 23:16:54 -0500
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              Vivek Venugopalan <vivek@MCS.NET>
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Hello
  I would like to announce the availability of DOCHTML v 1.1 utility for
the HPxxxLX palmtops.  This utility converts the inbuilt memo application
documents into HTML files that can be published on the web.  The new
features in the current version include support for Internationalization.

The new version can be downloaded from
http://www.mcs.net/~vivek/homepage/hp/software/apps.htm

Please send your comments and suggestions to vivek.venugopalan@usa.net

Thanks

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:23:14 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Modem and infrared port are built-into the Nokia 6110.

Baud: 38K (plus V.42 bis compression)
Weight: 137g (include battery)
Price: well, $850 in Australia
It also has some PIM programs, and 3 games, including a 2 player one...

Anyone have experience in linking this up to the palmtop?


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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:21:21 +10
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              Alain <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
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hi,
Do you know "end note"?
Alain
>
>  e-mail: sales@rsd.com
>  WWW: http://www.rsd.com
>

Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 02:34:21 -0400
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>I searched a few years ago for a SPICE version that I could compile and
>get running on my palmtop.  Seems like I found one, but I never got it
>100% running - problem was lack of time as I recall, not technical in
>nature.  I'll see if I can dig it up.

No need to, unless you need the unrestricted version. The MS-DOS version
of PSPICE is free of charge and works. From www.pspice.com as far as I
remember.

Jorgen

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Hi All,

By a strange coincidence I am currently trying to improve the way I
use XINE (and was about to post a question on it myself) when the
subject of file compression comes up again.

On Sunday, 23 August 1998, David Lawrence wrote:-

< All the talk of tinyprog et al has me wondering who on the list
< uses good old xine?

< It is burned into rom, so doesn't cost any space, it works fine
< for me and you can even read the contents of a text file to the
< screen using xine filename.ext con (unfortunately, I don't know
< how to make it pause screenfulls!)

I certainly use xine regularly, mainly for the same reasons that David
does.  In July of last year Pierre Vignaq and I discovered that we
both transform our files compressed by xine to filename.??x, the last
letter change to "x" being to indicate that the file is
xine-compressed.  According to some advice, you have to change the
name of the compressed file from its original form in any event, or
the file will be lost, but I have not found this to be so.

 Pierre passed on to me a very useful modification of xine to help
 minimise memory problems in having to type "xine <infile> <outfile>",
 including extensions.  He wrote a short batch file (PRESS.BAT) to
 cover the most commonly used types of file that he compresses, such
 as .doc, .txt, .wk1 etc.  This batch file reduces the typing to
 simply "press <filename>" without the extension.  PRESS.BAT invokes
 xine and, assuming that there is only one type of file with that name
 which the system can find, it compresses the file and adds the
 appropriate extension, such as dox, txx or wkx etc.  Because of the
 way that xine is written, the same file (without the extension in
PRESS. BAT) will be recognised by xine for decompression next time
that the name is used with PRESS.BAT which will add the original
extension back on again.  As Pierre would say: "Voila!"

The main disadvantage is that this set-up handles only one file at a
time.  Another disadvantage for me is that I have even more of a
memory problem in typing file names, especially as most of those that
I compress/decompress have very similar code names, the likelihood of
error in typing being thus increased.  I also have to remember to
delete the original file which xine leaves behind along with the
processed file.   So I tried to automate the process as much as
possible.

I have firstly changed Pierre's programme to simply X (that's easy
enough to remember if you can remember XINE; and Queenslanders can
remember XXXX for their favourite beer, after all).  Next, I have
tried unsuccessfully so far, to be able to easily paste in the
filename after first entering DOS and then typing x to get X started.
There are supposed to be some programmes that let you paste from the
clipboard to DOS but they have not worked for me.

I tried to get round this by using a macro.  The idea is that all you
would have to do would be to highlight the file in question in the
FILER and hit the macro.  Well, I have found a way to open a file in
MEMO or in 123, for that matter, simply by using a macro from the
FILER.  In the same way I can get a macro to store the name of the
selected file and I can get X or XINE to do the compression etc.
However, it is very cumbersome to get round.  You are left with using
a dummy file permanently set up in X and changing the name of your
selected file to match it, or you end up with the modified file in the
wrong directory.

What is needed is a method of highlighting the chosen file in FILER
and to be able to paste its name into the command line in DOS
(automatically if possible).

Barry Collins
<collib@forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:48:48 +0200
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River Wolf <rivrwolf@HOM.NET> wrote:
> I love street level maps, but most (almost all) the time I just want an
idea
> of where in a country I am.

Just curious; what do you do that gets you in a situation where you don't
know what part of a country you're in??
My problem is always the opposite, I know roughly where I am, but don't
know the exact location.... :-)
Cheers,
Paul.

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:45:42 +0200
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Good to hear there are more of us out there!
Personaly I think along the following lines regarding a sync utility:
I make most of my appoitments in person, either when people phone me up on
my cellular, or when I meet co-workers around the office. Only 5% of my
appoitments are made by people requesting meetings in Outlook via the
network.
So, as my LX is my most portable device, I would like that to be my primary
tool, synchronizing with my Pentium only to satisfy curious co-workers
wondering how I spend my time. :-)

BTW, I don't keep to-do lists on the Pentium anyway.

- Paul

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:36:37 +0200
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Christopher Lott <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:

> I would much rather have a batch file
> to run that would perform the sync-ing operation than rely on my
error-prone
> fingers to click the right sequence of buttons each and every day!
>
> -Chris Lott

Of course you're right Chris! I was thinking more along the lines of a
fully automated utility that didn't require the individual user to fiddle
with batch files. I've got nothing against batch files myself!

- Paul

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:29:35 +0200
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Hi Barry and list,

Nice to read that this so short contribution can still be a bit useful!
Best wishes for your improvement effort , and best regards from France!

Sincerely,

Pierre

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:48:20 +0100
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> Modem and infrared port are built-into the Nokia 6110.

Which requires the CDS from Nokia.
Which requires Win95 to run (bummer)
Which has problems under Win98.

(There is a solution in the works for the Psion5 so it
could be possible to do something for the HP)

It seems like a conspiracy that all the funky new GSM phones
just fail to work with the 200LX without some serious hacking.
(yes, I also tried the SH888 as well).

I've ended up going back to using a Psion gold card and an
8110i.  Slow at 9600 but fine for emails and a bit better
than the old aucoustic coupler I used to use.

As an aside I'm off again for a few months touring around
Europe so will have to once again sign off from this list.
I would like to thank you for the companionship and advice
I have received (even as a mostly passive participant) and
will pop my nose back in again when I've got a more
regular email account again.

Oh, and WWW/LX rocks <grin>.

(ignore silly paranoid company disclaimer)


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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:28:01 +0200
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At 07:37 AM 8/24/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Let's look at what you wrote before, about why the "default"
>configuration seems to be to swap drive letters:
>
># Because some files like sysaps
># looks for its files on c: and if the
># files aren't there you in deep
># water........ and the pgm don't woik.
>
>And I guess it is sometimes -- there are some oddball MS-DOS apps out
>there that figure C: must be The Hard Disk.  But I don't use any like
>that.

I haven't seen any of them. Well, err, I just received Super Software
Carousel from Thaddeus, which is pre-configured to work from the C drive or
the A drive. The F drive was lacking... :-( Oh well, for the rest I haven't
encountered any software that insists to be on the C drive.

>> Most aplications load
>> and look in c: till you modify it, why go
>> against the tide?  Why split the apps in one drive and the data in
>> another? That's why
>> they made the switch charoo pgm.  What
>> advantage do you see for spliting it?
>
>It works better for me -- I'm just used to having the basic PIM stuff
>(phone book, appt book, stuff that has to be in C:\_DAT) in one place
>and other stuff out on another larger drive.  Said other stuff is
>MS-DOS applications and their data, as well as some other large GDB
>databases.

I'm doing the same thing, and even splitting up more. Basically, ALL my
critical data is on the C drive. The rest is on the huge F drive. This way,
I can easy do a daily backup by backing up only the C drive. The C drive
contains the stuff which is most frequently changed. The F drive needs a
backup only once in a while.

>When I got my palmtop back from Times2Tech, it had the swap driver
>in there.  I tried it, decided I'd rather have F: be the big drive
>(like I used to have A:) and pulled it out of config.sys.

Apart from this, I *hate* to have something unusual like a Config.Sys on
the F: drive. It drives me and all the install software crazy. Speaking
about going against the tide...

Frans

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 06:05:27 -0400
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              "Jeffrey M. Swiger" <N8NOE@AMERITECH.NET>
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Netscape 4.50 PR-1 Professional Edition has a direct importer for the
HP100LX / HP200LX. Rely a nice Browser Plus a Calendar / scheduler...
http://home.netscape.com/eng/beta_central/
--
" What A LONG Strange Trip It's Been! "
                 Jeffrey M. Swiger
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 06:38:44 -0400
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Line Control Reg
00    5-bit             10    7-bit
01    6-bit             11    8-bit

I thought BAUDOT died in the good old days when a PC was an Apple-II?

Since this really is part of the general knowledge that separates
the educated people from the simply house-trained:

A  03     H  14      O  18       V  1E
B  19     I  06      P  16       W  13
C  0E     J  0B      Q  17       X  1D
D  09     K  0F      R  0A       Y  15
E  01     L  12      S  05       Z  11
F  0D     M  1C      T  10
G  1A     N  0C      U  07

-  23     #  34      9  38       ;  3E
?  39     8  26      0  36       2  33
:  2E     '  2B      1  37       /  3D
$  29     (  2F      4  2A       6  35
3  21     )  32      BELL 25     "  31
!  2D     .  3C      5  30
&  3A     ,  2C      7  27

SPACE     04
CR        08
LF        02
NULL      00
FIGURES   1B
LETTERS   1F

Jorgen

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 if everybody hated *you*, you'd be paranoid too.

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:52:04 +0100
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Of course not !

The military still use it for one thing.  I guess because many new
systems had to interface to old 5-hole paper tape relay systems, they
still use 5-hole codes.  I used to enjoy seeing how fast you could type
on a teletype without overrunning it.  You get a nice rythmn, and blunt
fingers.

To be fair more and more is just Microsoft software run over military
communications.  I hope that does not worry anyone...

I've known it take MS exchange mail 24 hours to deliver e-mail a
distance that took 35 minutes to drive.  Of course the guy sending it
did not know that, so 6 hours later when he phoned the recipient to
chase up an answer...

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:41:15 +0200
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              De Palma Marco <M.DePalma@MAILER3.FINSIEL.IT>
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I am looking for some software for my HP95LX that performs the following
functions:

- receives NMEA183 data coming from a GPS through the serial port
- upon request, logs the most significant data (latitude, longitude, speed,
course,
distance to the next waypoint, etc.) to a file, so that it can be later
transferred to a PC
for further processing
- displays user definable information (for example, latitude and longitude,
or speed and
course, etc.) in real time, possibly using a large font so that it can be
read from a distance.

I am not interested in moving map features.

Does anybody know if there is some software available that performs all or
some of the above
functions ?

It looks like there is something available for the HP100 and 200, but what
about the 95 ?

Thanks a lot in advance for any information.

Marco De Palma

> -------------------------------------------------------
> Marco De Palma
> Finsiel S.p.A. (Telecom Italia group)
> Telecom Division
> Via Coroglio, 49
> 80124 NAPOLI
> ITALY
> Tel.: +39-81-7351450
> Fax.: +39-81-7351044
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:50:23 +0000
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What does it import?

Mikhail

> Netscape 4.50 PR-1 Professional Edition has a direct importer for the
> HP100LX / HP200LX. Rely a nice Browser Plus a Calendar / scheduler...

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:26:27 +0800
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>> I have an XJ1144 Megahertz modem with a brocken (cracked) XJack.


I've seen these modems advertised for as little as $10 on this list,
but I'd like to know what sort of Telephone plugs these modems come
with.

What is the chance of me buying a cheap 14.4 PCMIA modem from the US
and it working in Australia.

Regards to all.....Liam

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> I've seen these modems advertised for as little as $10 on this list,
> but I'd like to know what sort of Telephone plugs these modems come
> with.

A little pop-out RJ11 socket for an american phone cord.  You may find
the same connector on your fax machine, phone, what-have-you otherwise
you should be able to buy an anything to rj11 cable at your local
tricky-dickies (I'm assuming the Dick Smiths name is still around for
electronics bits).
> What is the chance of me buying a cheap 14.4 PCMIA modem from the US
> and it working in Australia.

Pretty good, just got one over here in England and it has also worked a
treat back home in NZ.

Stuart



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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:29:29 -0400
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              Alan Striegel <STRIEGEL@EISNER.DECUS.ORG>
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Don't try fixing it yourself; just send it in.  All of ours came with a lifetime warranty.  Our company has
had many of them repaired free of charge.  I just got one back from them about
2 months ago.

Megahertz is now a part of 3Com, but they still honor the warranty.  Just call
in advance (1-800-LAPTOPS) to get the return authorization and follow their
instructions.

Alan
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Russell Hemery wrote:

Hi all

I have an XJ1144 Megahertz modem with a brocken (cracked) XJack.

Does anyone know where I can get the actual part as a spare??  The modem
works fine..Just the connector mechanism..  I've tried gluing and its too
fragile to be of long term use.

Any ideas?

TIA

Russell

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 07:38:48 -0500
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> I have something I wrote that does most of this (except the GPS input) for the
> full 2GB data set running on my desktop. Unfortunately it is a Windows
> Fortran 90 application (yes really!).

I have MS Fortran 5.0 running on the 200LX.  Works great.  I don't know
if any of the Fortran 90 compilers would work or not...

-Chris

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> >I searched a few years ago for a SPICE version that I could compile and
> >get running on my palmtop.  Seems like I found one, but I never got it
> >100% running - problem was lack of time as I recall, not technical in
> >nature.  I'll see if I can dig it up.
>
> No need to, unless you need the unrestricted version. The MS-DOS version
> of PSPICE is free of charge and works. From www.pspice.com as far as I
> remember.

I'll certainly check into this.  The one big problems as I remember was
that the .exe file had to be compiled with floating point emulation.

-Chris

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> >And I guess it is sometimes -- there are some oddball MS-DOS apps out
> >there that figure C: must be The Hard Disk.  But I don't use any like
> >that.
>
> I haven't seen any of them. Well, err, I just received Super Software
> Carousel from Thaddeus, which is pre-configured to work from the C drive or
> the A drive. The F drive was lacking... :-( Oh well, for the rest I haven't
> encountered any software that insists to be on the C drive.

I have seen this, even in some "modern" apps.  For example, my Street
Atlas 5 program gave me the option to select an installation drive, but
when I chose anything except C, it would install but not work!

-Chris

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 07:47:10 -0500
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In-Reply-To:  <199808260638_MC2-576D-36BD@compuserve.com> from "Jorgen Dybdahl"
              at Aug 26, 98 06:38:44 am
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Jorgen:

> I thought BAUDOT died in the good old days when a PC was an Apple-II?
>
> Since this really is part of the general knowledge that separates
> the educated people from the simply house-trained:

> A  03     H  14      O  18       V  1E
>
> -  23     #  34      9  38       ;  3E

Your table seemed to imply there were 6 bits to baudot - in fact there
are only 5.  The difference between letters and figures was the two
special SHIFT keys, LETTERS and FIGURES.  I presume the codes in your
table for the figures should really be identical to their corresponding
entry in the letters section, of course preceeded by a FIGURES code.

-Chris


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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:58:24 -0400
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              John Guenther <jguenthe@NAFIS.FP.TRW.COM>
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Great minds think alike, I use my HP everywhere I go, it is the master of
everything but for the time being I either have to enter everything twice,
or live with out of sync calendars and phone books.  The primary goal is to
allow either the HP or Outlook to be the master PIM. The secondary goal is a
self contained application which does not rely on intermediate database's or
spreadsheets to perform the sync process.  In other words, a utility that
once it is configured will allow "one button" synchronization of the HP and
Outlook.  In the mean time, I have figured out how to get  Outlook and the
HP in sync with Outlook as the master using the tools that are already
available.  I have a minor problem with the calendar at this time, but I
will publish the procedure in a few days.

John Guenther

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paal Rasmussen mailto:paal@ah.telia.no
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 1998 2:46 AM
> To: HPLX Mailing List; John Guenther
> Subject: RE: Embarrassed HP user
>
>
> Good to hear there are more of us out there!
> Personaly I think along the following lines regarding a sync utility:
> I make most of my appoitments in person, either when people phone me up on
> my cellular, or when I meet co-workers around the office. Only 5% of my
> appoitments are made by people requesting meetings in Outlook via the
> network.
> So, as my LX is my most portable device, I would like that to be
> my primary
> tool, synchronizing with my Pentium only to satisfy curious co-workers
> wondering how I spend my time. :-)
>
> BTW, I don't keep to-do lists on the Pentium anyway.
>
> - Paul
>
>

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Sorry for the incomplete information last time.

On checking the box, I discover that Megahertz offered a 5-year warranty, not
lifetime.

For those of you outside the United States, you can reach 3Com by calling
their main number 1-408-764-5000.

Alan

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On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, David Sargeant wrote:
> This problem, I've always been able to fix by cleaning out under the key
> with a little rubbing alcohol and a Q-tip.
>
I have wanted to try this, but I don't know how to disassemble the
keyboard.  When I've had my LX apart, the keyboard stayed intact, so I
didn't mess with it.  Is it difficult to take apart?

Cheers.
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I'm looking to minimize my windows setup and i was using 3.0. everyone
seems to think 2.0 is more efficient for the palmtop. Are there any
instructions or minimum file lists for windows 2.0. Are there any
significant differences that would cause some 3.0 applications to not
work. I'm primariy interested in excel and word but have a few shareware
products that I'm currently playing with.

Thanks

Brenda

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Does any one know any shareware or freeware applications like pc atlas
or pocket streets that run under dos?


Brenda

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:43:53 -0400
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With alll this talk of keyboards - I have a question.

With EVERY 100 or 200LX I've owned, at least 1 key has had an odd "sound".
If you listen carefully, when you press the key, there is what I think of
as a "crinkling" sound - almost as if there is loose, thin, plastic,
under the key(s). This has NEVER caused a problem, the keys work fine,
with no repeat or hesitation.

Perhaps someone familiar with the internals of the keyboard can explain
what is actually happening.

Thanks.

Larry

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Subject:      Win 2.03 & Win 3.0 Minimum Files

I have previously installed Win 3.0 on my LX but due to a crash lost it :(
Now that I have a handy dandy flash card for back-ups it won't happen again.
Can someone please post the minimum file requirements for Win 3.0 and also
Win 2.03? It would be extremely helpful! Thanks in advance!

73 Jeff KF4KGQ


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    |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain      |
    |    Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1)     | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept |
    | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet  |     QTH Birmingham, AL USA      |
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During my original installation of Win 3.0 and kind list member sent me a
copy of No Mouse. My memory fails me whom it was but if he happens to read
this message it would be greatly appreciated if I could beg another copy of
it. Thanks!

73 Jeff


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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:27:54 -0400
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              River Wolf <rivrwolf@HOM.NET>
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Right now it's pretty infrequent but in past tech support jobs I've
literally been bounced through 4-5 countries in 4-5 days. Nothing like
waking up in the morning and not remembering what continent you are on, much
less what country or city.  :)

I usually know where I am, but what I don't know is what I'm near. As a for
instance, I recently had to take a quick trip out to Palm Springs, CA. I
knew where I was, but what interested me more was how close I might be to
San Francisco or Los Angeles or Phoenix. After pulling out my laptop and
starting up Streets98 it told me, but this kind of thing only works in the
U.S., plus it's more computer stuff than I wanted to carry. What I'm looking
for is more of a global solution that can fit in my palmtop.

Now if there's some software out there that gives me global street-level
detail and can fit in my palmtop, I'll take that too. :)

--Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Paal Rasmussen <paal@AH.TELIA.NO>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, August 26, 1998 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: GPS Program Ideas


>Just curious; what do you do that gets you in a situation where you don't
>know what part of a country you're in??
>My problem is always the opposite, I know roughly where I am, but don't
>know the exact location.... :-)
>Cheers,
>Paul.

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 07:43:22 -0700
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>>At the very least, how about links
to cyber libraries?<<

I had been thinking about doing just that on my site. But if
Mitch and the team put the site links on palmtop.net, that
would be great.

Conrad Cox   San Francisco Palmtop User Group
http://www.ccnet.com/~cdcox   cdcox@ccnet.com

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No, unfortunately I don't. I tend to lose them (or delete them) after I'm
finished, usually because I'm running out of space.

For U.S. maps, I have Streets98 and Street Atlas 5 loaded on my laptop. I
pull up the area I'm interested in, copy it to the clipboard, save it to
disk, then manipulate it with a program called Graphics Workshop. It's easy,
so I think that may be why I don't keep them.

So far I haven't had the opportunity to make a map outside the U.S. the ones
I've needed were either available for download or put me in a place where I
didn't need (or couldn't use) a map or GPS.

--Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: GPS Program Ideas


>Hey Patrick
>Do you have a bunch of street level maps?
>Would like to have a few of your better
>ones.  would you mind telling me your
>procedure of how you do them.
>
>My problem is that no matter what I do I
>can't get them small and readable.
>Like 10-20K and still read street names.
>It would be a big help.  Maybe my scanner
>is not up to it?
>
>Thanks...........
>Please upload to hobchi@aol.com
>Semper Mobilis,
>yor pal al :) .............
>

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Content-Type: text

HELP!!!  All of a sudden, without warning, my CPACK/FILER program
quit working!  I press ENTER when FILER is selected, and the screen
goes blank briefly, then returns to the main APP MGR just as nothing
happened.  I can start other applications, such a PHONE, MEMO, XLATE,
etc...  This is a pretty serious matter for me, as I use FILER almost
exclusively to transfer files to/from my office computer.  In the
meantime, I can use the terminal program and it's built-in file
transfer capabilities, but I already miss my FILER.  Any ideas what
could cause this behaviour???

-Chris Lott

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Jeff
I wasn't the one who sent you the original no mouse files but here they are.
Tony Guzewicz

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<P>Sorry about that last post.
<BR>TDG</HTML>

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:33:24 -0700
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On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> HELP!!!  All of a sudden, without warning, my CPACK/FILER program
> quit working!  I press ENTER when FILER is selected, and the screen
> goes blank briefly, then returns to the main APP MGR just as nothing
> happened.  I can start other applications, such a PHONE, MEMO, XLATE,
> etc...  This is a pretty serious matter for me, as I use FILER almost
> exclusively to transfer files to/from my office computer.  In the
> meantime, I can use the terminal program and it's built-in file
> transfer capabilities, but I already miss my FILER.  Any ideas what
> could cause this behaviour???

Does it still do this after you reboot the LX? (Ctrl-Alt-Del)

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 05:29:55 -0700
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> >
> >And I guess it is sometimes -- there are some oddball MS-DOS apps out
> >there that figure C: must be The Hard Disk.  But I don't use any like
> >that.
>
> I haven't seen any of them. Well, err, I just received Super Software
> Carousel from Thaddeus, which is pre-configured to work from the C drive or
> the A drive. The F drive was lacking... :-( Oh well, for the rest I haven't
> encountered any software that insists to be on the C drive.

I use Framework-3 from Ashton-Tate, a circa 1987 integrated package and it
complains when it's started on the A drive because it thinks that's the
floppy and the C drive is supposed to be the hard drive.

I ended up starting FW3 from the E drive (done using an ASSIGN or SUBST to
drive A) and that keeps it happy, tho I'm sure most normal defaults for FW3
for harddisk installation is for drive C.

The point is that programs that show this problem are probably very old, and
were probably big (ie, needed multiple floppy disks to run). Little one
floppy programs probably didn't care which drive you used.

- Longden

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> > HELP!!!  All of a sudden, without warning, my CPACK/FILER program
> > quit working!  I press ENTER when FILER is selected, and the screen
> > goes blank briefly, then returns to the main APP MGR just as nothing
> > happened.  I can start other applications, such a PHONE, MEMO, XLATE,
> > etc...  This is a pretty serious matter for me, as I use FILER almost
> > exclusively to transfer files to/from my office computer.  In the
> > meantime, I can use the terminal program and it's built-in file
> > transfer capabilities, but I already miss my FILER.  Any ideas what
> > could cause this behaviour???
>
> Does it still do this after you reboot the LX? (Ctrl-Alt-Del)

Not applicable... I'm talking about the FILER that runs on my desktop as
part of the CPACK collection of programs.

-Chris



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Huntsville, Alabama
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:41:56 -0500
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Does anyone have a connectivity pack for the 200LX they would like to sell?
Or even just the software for the PC itself.  I have cables.
Thanks,
Bob
Bob Roberts
Terbocom Computer Services
"Your launchpad into cyberspace!"
http://www.terbocom.com
email: bob@terbocom.com
(816)737-8645

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:58:00 -0500
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I was just emailed the following. I imagine some on this list could
answer the question based on experience. If anyone responds I'll forward
it.

Thanks.

<<Hal,

I have had my eye on the programmers reference kit and PAL
routines you offer for the HP200LX.  I am a "recreational programmer"
only (for fun while I travel).  While I much prefer BASIC, I have given
up
finding a version of BASIC which will work correctly with the HP200LX's
ports
(I have been thru several, including FirstBASIC as recommended by Wayne
Yang
in the Jan/Feb 1998 PTP).

I may give C a try if I can do all the programming on the HP200LX.

1.      Which C Compliers are supported and run on the HP200LX entirely
        (debugging, linking, compiling, etc) right on the HP200LX?
        Note: I would probably use PalEdit for the source code work.

2.      Which C Complier would you recommend and where can I obtain one?
        Note: I have a copy of Microsoft C for DOS, circa 1988, but have

        not yet tried to get it to run on the HP200LX.

Thanks for your help.

        Regards,
        Bob Pigford

        profengr@delanet.com>>

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:39:56 -0500
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Though I don't know much about programming there is a C compiler which
includes everything from Mix Software that runs on the palmtop and is very
reasonably priced.
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:15:21 -0500
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<<I haven't seen any of them. Well, err, I just received Super Software
Carousel from Thaddeus, which is pre-configured to work from the C drive
or
the A drive. The F drive was lacking... :-( Oh well, for the rest I
haven't
encountered any software that insists to be on the C drive.>>

The problem was there are 10-15 files that are dependent on drive
specification. Some can be edited directly some must be edited within
the application.  One of the causes for the delay in shipping was making
sure the A and C drive version functioned correctly.  Three versions of
the software would have driven me nuts. Super SC takes a bunch of
independently written sw and ties them together, hence the dependence on
drive and subdirectory.

If there is much of a demand, now that SuperSC is "frozen", I can
probably create an F drive version.

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:44:39 -0500
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Hi,

        ......I may give C a try if I can do all the programming on the
HP200LX.

> 1.      Which C Compliers are supported and run on the HP200LX entirely
>         (debugging, linking, compiling, etc) right on the HP200LX?
>         Note: I would probably use PalEdit for the source code work.
>
I have heard that Borlands Turbo C 1.0 and perhaps even Turbo C 2.0 will run
directly on the palmtop.


> Thanks for your help.
>
>         Regards,
>         Bob Pigford
>
>         <<profengr@delanet.com>>
>
>

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:02:21 -0500
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              from "Hal" at Aug 26, 98 11:58:00 am
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> 1.      Which C Compliers are supported and run on the HP200LX entirely
>         (debugging, linking, compiling, etc) right on the HP200LX?
>         Note: I would probably use PalEdit for the source code work.

I have had very good luck with the MIX Software Power C compiler.  The
price is right (still $19, I believe).  I haven't done any real-time
debugging with it, but the compile/link times are reasonably fast so
most debugging I do is with print statements.  I have also gotten
Turbo c++ v1.0 to run, but it's IDE was almost impossible for me to
setup with proper colors for the monochrome LCD.  Also, as I don't
use C++ very often, I have stuck with Power C.  Even use it on my
desktop for most short and simple little programs and utilities I
write.

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:42:33 -0400
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MIX is the compiler I use, although I must admit I host it on my PII-350 NT
machine. Don't see any reason why it wouldn't work just fine (but much
slower) on the palmtop, though. It appears to have been developed back in
the old days when 640K was huge :-)

rick


>Though I don't know much about programming there is a C compiler which
>includes everything from Mix Software that runs on the palmtop and is very
>reasonably priced.
>Tony Guzewicz
>

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:43:07 -0700
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On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Hal wrote:

> I may give C a try if I can do all the programming on the HP200LX.
>
> 1.      Which C Compliers are supported and run on the HP200LX entirely
>         (debugging, linking, compiling, etc) right on the HP200LX?
>         Note: I would probably use PalEdit for the source code work.

Probably the best C/C++ compiler would be Turbo C++ 1.01.  There are some
other freeware/shareware C compilers, like Power C and Mix C, and maybe
Microsoft QuickC would work, but Turbo C++ 1.01 is (in my opinion) the
best.  The only trouble is a) where to find it, and b) the cost.

> 2.      Which C Complier would you recommend and where can I obtain one?
>         Note: I have a copy of Microsoft C for DOS, circa 1988, but
> have not yet tried to get it to run on the HP200LX.

That sounds like it would probably run.  If you're interested in Turbo
C++, you can use it legally by buying a newer version of Turbo C++ (like
3.0 for DOS or 4.5 for Windows, I believe).  Then you are allowed by
Borland to use either the new version or the old version.  Then the only
problem is finding it.  I believe one of the "abandonware" sites has it up
(think it's http://comports.com/hplx ) but be forewarned that downloading
it without owning a newer copy (which you don't use) would probably make
Borland mad.

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:47:40 -0400
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Well...

it looks like pspice is gone!  The http://www.pspice.com link takes you to
MicroSim, which says:

"As of July 1, 1998, most of the MicroSim products were discontinued. The
discontinued products
are indicated below, and, unfortunately, product information is no longer
available. Interface
Technologies has found replacement products that have equivalent or higher
functionality, at the
same or lower cost. We invite you to browse the information on those new,
exciting products."

Mike

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<HTML>
Turbo C++ is available at

<P>----
<BR><A HREF="http://comports.com/hplx">http://comports.com/hplx</A>
<BR>TDG
<BR>&nbsp;</HTML>

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:22:09 -0700
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Frans Veldman <veldman@KNOWARE.NL> wrote:
> I haven't seen any of them. Well, err, I just received Super Software
> Carousel from Thaddeus, which is pre-configured to work from the C drive or
> the A drive. The F drive was lacking... :-( Oh well, for the rest I haven't
> encountered any software that insists to be on the C drive.

From what Hal posted I gather this is a problem with the "Super" part
-- I prefer to do my own customization of the software I install (I
find that I usually have to anyway) and so ordered plain Software
Carousel.  Received it last Thursday, it installed in F:\SC without
problem, and it rocks!

> Apart from this, I *hate* to have something unusual like a Config.Sys on
> the F: drive. It drives me and all the install software crazy. Speaking
> about going against the tide...

This is one of the things that made me do away with the swap too.  I
tripped over it once on the first day and decided I would probably
trip over it again in future -- it's *hard* to break umpteen years of
conditioning that CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT go on C:\.  I didn't
even think about software getting confused.

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:05:47 -0500
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> Well...
>
> it looks like pspice is gone!  The http://www.pspice.com link takes you to
> MicroSim, which says:
>
> "As of July 1, 1998, most of the MicroSim products were discontinued. The
> discontinued products
> are indicated below, and, unfortunately, product information is no longer
> available. Interface
> Technologies has found replacement products that have equivalent or higher
> functionality, at the
> same or lower cost. We invite you to browse the information on those new,
> exciting products."

Mike:

MicroSim sold their PSPICE product line to OrCAD.  I'm surprised that you
didn't find any mention of this on their web site.  Who is Interface
Technologies?  Never heard of them.  Anyway, you might want to check out
the OrCAD web site for more PSPICE information.

-Chris

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:15:34 -0700
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              "Erling, Marshall N" <Marshall.Erling@PSS.BOEING.COM>
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This keyboard might be nice to adapt for the LX.
http://www.royal.com/davinci/dventry.html

This product has been introduced to work with the 'DaVinci' organizer.
It's modeled after the Pilot, but costs half as much.

I heard about this device on http://www.slashdot.org/
  Marshall
> Thank you,
>       Marshall Erling
>       IT/O Product Development and Support
>       Distributed Systems & Network Management
>       http://www-oe.ns.cs.boeing.com/dsnm/
>       Operations Engineering G-4650  Tel:(425) 865-4506
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<<From what Hal posted I gather this is a problem with the "Super" part
-- I prefer to do my own customization of the software I install (I
find that I usually have to anyway) and so ordered plain Software
Carousel.  Received it last Thursday, it installed in F:\SC without
problem, and it rocks!>>

Right. SC can reside on any drive. Super SC at this point can reside on
only A or C.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:10:01 -0500
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Try creating a new CPACK DIRectory
with your ?DBs and data files in it
and see if it'll work.  That way
you won't do more damage. When the
new DIR is up and working, you can
DELete the old original one.  If
new one doesn't work, you won't
have lost nothing.

Sshhh it happens, look out it don't
happen today.

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yor pal al :) .............

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I broke down and re-installed FoxPro, just to get it to that point in
the installation where it asks you what type of display you have,
because I got tired of fussing with colors and color sets and trying
to get them all to play together.  The previous (first) time I
installed it, I was doing it from a notebook PC with the LX sharing
its "disk" drives out via INTERSRV, and when the FoxPro installation
asked me for my display type I had told it to use the generic color
setup (CGA/EGA/VGA) because that's what the notebook has and that's
where the installer was running.  This time I ran it on the 200LX
(with the installation disks all loaded in one directory on a flash
card), picked Compaq Plasma (color) and got a much nicer default color
set for the 200LX screen with MODE CO80 in effect.

As a bonus, when I select Window->Color off the menu, I seem to be
able to see (load) several different color sets now, not just DEFAULT.
Not sure what I screwed up the first time around to leave it like
that, but last time I tried to do a minimal installation and this time
I let it install all of the optional files so I could play with the
samples.

I also find that it is now possible to re-select my color
configuration by running INSTALL2.BAT from the FoxPro directory, but I
think you need to let it overwrite your FOXUSER.DBF file for this to
work, and I'm not sure what you need to have loaded besides
INSTALL2.BAT and INSTALL.APP for this to work.  You can abort the
installation (by pressing ESC and answering Yes) when it gets to the
dialog about what optional components to load.

MODE CO80 seems to be much more likely to work than MODE MONO, MODE
BW80, and MONO8025.  I don't have to fiddle around to get the blinking
cursor and I don't find myself staring at blank screens for reasons I
don't entirely understand (and which sometimes seem to go away after
more fiddling with MODE BW80 and MONO8025) -- well, I have suspicions
that some of this software tries to autodetect the display adapter and
sees that the 200LX "has a CGA" even when one of the monochrome modes
is set, and so goes off and scribbles in the CGA's memory.

-Frank McConnell

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>HELP!!!  All of a sudden, without warning, my CPACK/FILER program
>quit working!  I press ENTER when FILER is selected, and the screen
>goes blank briefly, then returns to the main APP MGR just as nothing
>happened.  I can start other applications, such a PHONE, MEMO, XLATE,
>etc...

This is exactly what happens to me when I try to run CPACK in a DOS Box on
NT, though it should work in DOS.
-Geo.

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>What is needed is a method of highlighting the chosen file in FILER
>and to be able to paste its name into the command line in DOS
>(automatically if possible).

You can easily automate Xine DE-compression through Filer on a 200LX if you
adopt the habit of naming your compressed files with a specific
three-letter extension, such as .XIN. Then it is simply a matter of adding
the following line to your C:\_DAT\FILER.INI :

     XIN=D:\BIN\XINE.COM %

(No, FILER.INI won't accept ??X as an extension; I tried it. However, you
can add multiple lines to FILER.INI to cover all likely extensions (like
.DOX, .TXX, BAX, EXX, COX etc.)

Just a quick thought, maybe it will spur you on to a complete solution.

Bruce Martin
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:07:44 -0400
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>> I may give C a try if I can do all the programming on the HP200LX.
>>
>> 1.      Which C Compliers are supported and run on the HP200LX entirely
>>         (debugging, linking, compiling, etc) right on the HP200LX?
>>         Note: I would probably use PalEdit for the source code work.
>
>Probably the best C/C++ compiler would be Turbo C++ 1.01.  There are some
>other freeware/shareware C compilers, like Power C and Mix C, and maybe
>Microsoft QuickC would work,......

I can verify that Microsoft QuickC works. It's what I use with PAL on the
HP200LX.

Owen



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Macon Amateur Radio Club W4BKM: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/marc/marc.html
HP200LX: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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over wires and that, were it possible to do so, the thing would be of
no practical value."
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:10:38 -0500
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> >HELP!!!  All of a sudden, without warning, my CPACK/FILER program
> >quit working!  I press ENTER when FILER is selected, and the screen
> >goes blank briefly, then returns to the main APP MGR just as nothing
> >happened.  I can start other applications, such a PHONE, MEMO, XLATE,
> >etc...
>
> This is exactly what happens to me when I try to run CPACK in a DOS Box on
> NT, though it should work in DOS.
> -Geo.

Very interesting.... I *am* running on an NT machine, from within a DOS
box.  But, I've been doing this successfully for over 2 years now without
any problems.  Something must have happened today - must have awaken on
the wrong side of the bed, or something.

-Chris

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Hi,

I just reviewed former discussions on the formatting subject, because I
had to reformat my 8MB smart-media cards (Olympus dig camera, 4KB
cluster) for use with the 200LX - and I wanted 512Byte clusters.

Now here's *the final info on formatting*  ;-)

I)
There is a DOS Partition Manager including formatting, sources, good
explanations and all you need as freeware from

 Mikhail Ranish
 ranish@intercom.com
 http://www.intercom.com/~ranish  or
 http://www.ml.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~mranish

Till now I didn't try the SW on my 200LX, because:

II)
The DOS format prgr which comes with W95 has an undocumented switch:

 FORMAT drive: /z:n          n=1,2,4,8,..
 where n is the number of sectors (512Byte) in a cluster.

(I got this from the German PC magazine 'PC-Welt' 10/97
 www.pcwelt.de or CIS: GO PCWELT)

If you agree that this is the final msg on formatting, please send me a
msg, otherwise please don't!   ;-)

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David Sargeant <david@HPLX.NET> wrote:
> Probably the best C/C++ compiler would be Turbo C++ 1.01.  There are some
> other freeware/shareware C compilers, like Power C and Mix C, and maybe
> Microsoft QuickC would work, but Turbo C++ 1.01 is (in my opinion) the
> best.  The only trouble is a) where to find it, and b) the cost.

Microsoft QuickC Pro (2.51a) does work, it's what I use on the
palmtop.  Well, at least it compiles C and assembles assembler.  The
IDE doesn't really get along all that well with the 200LX: you have to
press the ON key twice to turn the 200LX off, and the idle timeout
doesn't turn the 200LX off automatically.

Why do I use it?  It works better with the HP SDK, and my brain has
already wrapped itself around the horror that is NMAKE once so I can
do stuff with the makefiles.

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:27:34 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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> I had been thinking about doing just that on my site. But if
> Mitch and the team put the site links on palmtop.net, that
> would be great.

I have always been very hesitant about adding a links collection to
palmtop.net. They are very hard to keep current and I have no way to control
what will actually show up when someone clicks them. I have a very few files
whose authors have requested that I link out to them rather than physically
carry the file on-server, but I prefer the latter.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Subject:      solar panel

Hi Everyone

Someone posted mentioning he was using a inflexible solar panel
with his HP and having problems with it breaking. Jade Mountain
sells a Thin Film Flexible solar panel, I believe it made by Tefzel.
The part # is PV651 its 3.0 volt 100ma 3.25" by 5.5" $18.
Their phone # is 800-442-1972 and web page is www.jademountain.com.
Guarenteed not to break! Good luck.

-John

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:17:58 -0500
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Subject:      Windows 3.0

Ok, I've got nomouse.exe now, could someone please post to the list or email
me privately the files needed to run Win 3.0 on my LX. Many thanks!!!

73 Jeff KF4KGQ


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    | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet  |     QTH Birmingham, AL USA      |
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Someone posted a message to the list which showed what command line switches
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the correct structure. Could someone please repost this information.

73 Jeff KF4KGQ


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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:08:04 -0700
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Hi all,
   I was surprised when I called Marcam with my wallet
open to order a $109 20 mbyte flash card and they told me
1) the Simple cards would not work in a 100LX
2) and would not work with Stacker (any version)

I currently have a 100LX with a 5 Mbyte HP flash card
and Stacker 4.0.

20 would be neat but 10 with stacker would be OK, if it's
in the < $100 range.

Any hints?

Thanks,  Tony Armendariz
tony.armendariz@tandem.com

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:55:18 EDT
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In a message dated 98-08-26 19:21:42 EDT, you write:

<<  I was surprised when I called Marcam with my wallet
 open to order a $109 20 mbyte flash card and they told me
 1) the Simple cards would not work in a 100LX
 2) and would not work with Stacker (any version)
  >>

I'm not familiar with the Marcam card.  However, any flash card which
replicates an ATA drive can be made to work on your 100lx, if you have the
acecard driver.  Does the Marcam require a driver of its own?  The only reason
I can think of that Stacker would not word would be the Marcam card is already
compressed.  I have in the past used Stacker on 4 different cards with no
difficulty (other than the speed and overhead penalty -- which was well worth
it at the time.)  You should be able to find a REAL 16 meg compact flash (with
addapter) for little more than this questionable card, and stack it to 30+.

Good Luck,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:56:54 +10
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              Alain <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
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Subject:      Re: Best programming environment on Palmtop
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hi,
I use Turbo C 2.0 with the LX.
work fine
size: around 1Mg
It's possible to use turbo C++ and borland C++ 2.0 but they are biger,
realy biger.

regards
Alain
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:15:36 -0700
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: ?Flash cards for HP 100LX?
Comments: To: "Armendariz, Tony" <tony.armendariz@COMPAQ.COM>
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Neither statement is true.  You can use the ST cards if you have access to
acecard.com and add it to your config.sys.

I stacked a 40 mb ST card, but couldn't get stacker to automatically load.
It did load, however, with the stacker.EXE (stacker anywhere) program, and
really performed well, but the memory it consumed was not acceptable, so I
quit using it.  I didn't really NEED the extra space.

At 16:08 08/26/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>   I was surprised when I called Marcam with my wallet
>open to order a $109 20 mbyte flash card and they told me
>1) the Simple cards would not work in a 100LX
>2) and would not work with Stacker (any version)
>
>I currently have a 100LX with a 5 Mbyte HP flash card
>and Stacker 4.0.
>
>20 would be neat but 10 with stacker would be OK, if it's
>in the < $100 range.
>
>Any hints?
>
>Thanks,  Tony Armendariz
>tony.armendariz@tandem.com
>
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===============================================
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:28:06 +10
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              Alain <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
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From:         Alain <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
Subject:      Re: Best programming environment on Palmtop
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Mix Power C
http://www.greymatter.co.uk/gmWEB/Nodes/NODE00D6.HTM
http://www.mixsoftware.com/product/powerc.htm
Look good and cheap
include a debuger

Pacific C
http://www.hitech.com.au/products/pacific.html
Small and free for personal used

regards
Alain
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:30:43 -0500
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I'd like to upgrade the memory in my 200lx but it has the hinge crack.
I've fixed it with the superglue technique described on this and other
lists.  I can start to see the hairline of the crack starting to
re-appear although there is no actual crack (yet).

Is it a good idea to put any money into a machine with the crack?  What
is the ultimate failure mode here??  I've made the hinge quite easy to
flex but I'm still concerned.

Opinions are welcome.

Thanks, this is a great list.

John

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 21:17:59 -0400
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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--- begin of forwarded message ---

Sender e021597@phxase.allied.com
Date Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:28:01 -0700
From Philip Tait <pjt@phxase.allied.com>
Subject FS: HP Dictionary/Thesaurus card


HP F1005A

"Based on: American Heritage Dictionary and Roget's II: The new
Thesaurus"

$60 inc. shipping within U.S.


--

Philip J. Tait.....AlliedSignal Engines, Phoenix, Az.....pjt@phxase.allied=
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Date:         Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:56:50 -0400
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              Stephen Petty <swpetty@KIH.NET>
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How do you replace the screen on the palmtop? I cannot seem to get the case
apart. (what am I missing here?)
I broke my screen on my 200lx and would like to replace it with the screen
on my 100lx.


Best Regards.

Terrorists like to brag they will die for their cause.
We can help.
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:34:30 -0500
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If you want a quick little (96 K execution memory, less that

300 K disk space)  K&R compiler, there is PCC (formerly
DeSmet)
available on Simtel:
pcc12c.zip     175K   89/06/20  Personal C compiler. Fully
functional, C WARE


If you want to write something that has the 'look and feel'
of the built in LX apps. look at the development kits
below (on the SUPER site).
---------------------------------------------

NKIT (38 K) added 08/01/97
Version 0.63 by Anonymous

NKIT is a development kit that enables programmers to
make EXM programs using LHAPI (Lotus Handheld
Application Program Interface) embedded in the ROM of
the HP 100/200LX.  Target compilers are Borland's
Turbo C and LSI C-86.  Copyrighted freeware.
---------------------------------------------------
PAL (Palmtop Application Library) (480 K) added 01/17/97
Version 1.6 by The PAL Group

The Palmtop Application Library is a development
library that targets the HP100LX and HP200LX palmtops
and makes it possible to create applications ......

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:38:20 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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> hi,
> I use Turbo C 2.0 with the LX.
> work fine
> size: around 1Mg
> It's possible to use turbo C++ and borland C++ 2.0 but they are biger,
> realy biger.
>

I agree! I have tried several, but I find Borland Turbo C 2.0 and TASM =
2.0
to be the best solution for development on the palmtop. Together with =
NKIT
you can create great EXM programs. I had some functions in my HP Alarm
Clock program written in assembler, so that's why I used TASM. The
compilation is fast and since NKIT is written to be used with Turbo C-
this is the best solution.

Regards,

Jorgen Wallgren

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 02:21:49 PDT
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From:         Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
Subject:      Re: AskSam dos

Folks,

If anyone wishes to pickup a copy of askSam DOS this price I was offered is
$100.00 less than the offical price.

Be sure to contact Jim Hartman <jhartman@asksam.com> and tell him
Patrick West told you about it.

>
> On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Jim Hartman wrote:
> > I am willing to make you a SPECIAL OFFER.  If you can arrange purchase
> > by the end of September, then I can offer the DOS version to you
> > for $195.00 + $10 for shipping.
> >
> > Let me know if this is acceptable or not.


reply to note from "Jim Hartman" <jhartman@asksam.com> Wed, 26 Aug 1998
09:41:38 -0400

> You wrote....
> More than acceptable.  I don't know if I'll be able to do it that soon or
> not, but it is a very nice offer. Could I pass the offer along to some other
> HP200LX users?
>
> RESPONSE:
> Yes, but, HP200LX Users ONLY, and have them ask for me if they call or
> order.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jim
> askSam Systems


Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:18:24 +0200
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Hi,

I just reviewed former discussions on the formatting subject, because I
had to reformat my 8MB smart-media cards (Olympus dig camera, 4KB
cluster) for use with the 200LX - and I wanted 512Byte clusters.

Now here's *the final info on formatting*  ;-)

I)
There is a DOS Partition Manager including formatting, sources, good
explanations and all you need as freeware from

 Mikhail Ranish
 ranish@intercom.com
 http://www.intercom.com/~ranish  or
 http://www.ml.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~mranish

Till now I didn't try the SW on my 200LX, because:

II)
The DOS format prgr which comes with W95 has an undocumented switch:

 FORMAT drive: /z:n          n=1,2,4,8,..
 where n is the number of sectors (512Byte) in a cluster.

(I got this from the German PC magazine 'PC-Welt' 10/97
 www.pcwelt.de or CIS: GO PCWELT)

If you agree that this is the final msg on formatting, please send me a
msg, otherwise please don't!   ;-)

Hermann

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 02:53:18 -0500
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I want the author to get with me and see if we can't find the incompatability,
but I wanted to immediately send a message to the list notifying everyone that
upon exiting the phonebook, CLKLX locks up the machine.

Luckily, no data loss.  As soon as CLKLX is taken out of the autoexec.bat,
Phone quits just fine.  It is likely to be a incompatability with another TSR
I have running, but it happens just the same.

TSRs:

Battlog, Doskey, MaxDOS, Batset, MoreEXM, EXKey, Buddy, DOSShell, DOSSwap,
Cic200, SPD31, ZANSI, KBUF128.  (Whew, there's a lot of 'em!)

As a test, I'm going to reboot clean and see if it still happens.  Without
startup files, CLKLX, then 200, Phone doesn't lock up.  Under DOSShell, then
CLKLX, then 200, no lockup..  I'll investigate further later..

--
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 -      HP200LX  A2000  Alinco DJ580  Icom 281  Kenwood 530S   o:o         -
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Subject:      Re: Zipping C: Drive
Comments: cc: jeffj@SCOTT.NET

   >Someone posted a message to the list which showed what command line
   >switches to put after pkzip in order to zip up the entire c: drive
   >while maintaing the correct directory structure so that the .zip
   >file could be unzipped with the correct structure. Could someone
   >please repost this information.
   >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ
Message-Id: <19980827055831.CNSB4228@12.64.39.53>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 05:58:31 +0000

How I do it:

@echo off
rem the following pkzip cmds to backup requires about 256k to work
rem
rem (flush out the tmp directory before backing up)
rem (exclude the tremm.swp swap file)
rem
del a:\_bak\cdrive.zip
deltree /y c:\tmp
md c:\tmp
pkzip -rp -whs -Jhrs -xtremm.swp a:\_bak\cdrive c:\*.*

To restore:

rem run cmd from drive c
rem first restore all files
a:\utl\pkunzip -d -Jhrs -o a:\_bak\cdrive.zip *.*

rem now bebuild emm swap area. 64 16k blocks=1mb
a:\utl\instemm 64


Notes: the backup script deletes the previous backup (a:\_bak\cdrive.zip),
then deletes the temporary files on C before doing pkzip. The pkzip cmd
skips the EMM swap file (tremm.swp).

The restore script is run from the empty C drive and finishes by rebuilding
the EMM swap file.

You can run pkzip/pkunzip to get the exact meanings of the options used, I
think I just copied them from someone else, but I've proven to myself that
the combo works.

- Longden

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Thanks! I've got enough now.

rick

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>
> Yep, should be great if it works...what better way to program this
> easy-to-use uC than using a palmtop?  I have used an 87C51 at work and =
wan
> to play around with a uC at home, but don't want to buy a programmer,
> eraser and certainly not an In-Circuit Emulator.  The BASIC Stamp seems
> like a good solution.  If you want to try a Stamp, don't buy their kit.
> The software and documentation is free for the downloading and the =
cable i
> easy to make.  I'm just going to buy the Stamp itself (BS2-IC).
>
> Danny
>
Post to the list if it works for you...

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Chris,

The Connectivity Pack is really a series of small DOS programs that are
called up by the main CPack application program.  It sounds like one of
those program files is corrupt.  The Filer program is called cfiler.exe.
(The SUPER site has a text file that shows you how to use cfiler as a stand
alone program that fits on a floppy to move from computer to computer.)  If
it is corrupted or one of its support files like filer.env is corrupt the
program will try to start and fail and reload the main CPack application
program again.  I would suggest you reinstall the whole CPack program and
see if that fixes your problem.

Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: R. Christopher Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
Date: Wednesday, August 26, 1998 8:17 AM
Subject: CPACK/FILER Busted! Help!!!


>HELP!!!  All of a sudden, without warning, my CPACK/FILER program
>quit working!  I press ENTER when FILER is selected, and the screen
>goes blank briefly, then returns to the main APP MGR just as nothing
>happened.  I can start other applications, such a PHONE, MEMO, XLATE,
>etc...  This is a pretty serious matter for me, as I use FILER almost
>exclusively to transfer files to/from my office computer.  In the
>meantime, I can use the terminal program and it's built-in file
>transfer capabilities, but I already miss my FILER.  Any ideas what
>could cause this behaviour???
>
>-Chris Lott
>
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    Can anyone see a problem programming with

    Turbo Basic on the HP ?.  What advantages does

    the Turbo C compiler have over basic, other than

    more compact compiled programs?



    Regards......Liam

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Jeff
If you got pkzip already,
I think the instructions
will comeout if you run it
with no params or /?

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My vote is for Turbo C 2.0. It's a nice compiler, lots
of functionality, very stable, has a useful command-line
compiler (I live in the UNIX world - can't stand those
IDEs) and - the best part - Microsoft doesn't get a cent!

John

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Hi all,

For any of you that downloaded my ConvertLX utility from S.U.P.E.R.,
there's a new version out there that fixes a problem with certain
combinations of numbers causing weird results. Sorry about that.

(Boy, I feel like Microsoft - send the software out and let the users
beta-test it! 8-) )

For those of you who sent me suggestions for improvements, I'm working
on a new version that will incorporate most of them. Thanx for the mail,
and keep the ideas coming!

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On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Stephen Petty wrote:

> How do you replace the screen on the palmtop? I cannot seem to get the case
> apart. (what am I missing here?)
> I broke my screen on my 200lx and would like to replace it with the screen
> on my 100lx.

I have some fairly detailed instructions in the "Hardware Hacking" section
of my web site, http://www.hplx.net

If you need more detail, I can probably provide it.

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I have a 1MB Newton SRAM card available if anyone on the list needs it. It's
left over from my Newton MP100 days of long ago. Believe it or not, there
was a time when I thought the Newtons were the best thing since sliced bread
<grin>. Actually, the MP120 was a nice machine, especially since it had two
PC card slots. I don't really think the card is worth much, but if anyone
wants it drop me a line. It may be useful for backing up a 1MB LX.

73 Jeff KF4KGQ


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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:11:54 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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> > 1.      Which C Compliers are supported and run on the HP200LX entirely
> >         (debugging, linking, compiling, etc) right on the HP200LX?


> I have also gotten
> Turbo c++ v1.0 to run, but it's IDE was almost impossible for me to
> setup with proper colors for the monochrome LCD.

I use the command line version (Turbo C++ v1.01) and make files.

Unfortunately, the IDE contains the debugger (and I also found the IDE
awkward, even on a desktop: so I don't use it.)

I understand that there is stand-alone debugger available; anyone know
anything about this?

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1998 21:50:05 +0000
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I called them about askSam 5.1 and asked why the price is so high -
was told they still support the software and the price is set to
cover the people who provide the phone support.  I asked how long
they intend to keep supporting the DOS version and he didn't know,
but said the price would drop if support was discontinued.  There is
a Demo -limited to small databases I think I got from their web page.

As for me I'll stick with InfoSelect - for the type of things I need
to keep track of it works great.  I think you can still order it from
Micro Logic  -no tech support -about $50 if they still have it.

> From:          Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
> Subject:       Freeform database
> To:            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> Folks,
>
> I've been looking for a freeform database such as MemoryMate as described
> by Jim Seymour in his 1991 book "PC Productivity Bible".
>
> What I found is a program called askSam. The company still sells the DOS
> version but as with many others their main focus seems to be the Windows
> version. Their brochure is way to long to send by way of this list.
> I wrote to check system requirements.
> =========================edited reply=============
> From: Jim Hartman <jhartman@asksam.com>
> Thank you for your return inquiry.  The DOS Version requires the following:
> DOS 3.0 or higher  1 Mg. Hard Disk Space  384 Kb of RAM
> You can run it on a 186 with a CGA screen.
> ================================================
>
> The pricing is however rather high
>
> ===askSam Price List
> Windows Products askSam 3.0 ..................... 149.95
>                  askSam Professional ............ 395.00
>
> DOS PRODUCT:       askSam 5.1 .................... 395.00
> =====================================================
>
> I wrote and suggested they re-evaluate their pricing on the DOS product.
> If this product is something you might like I would encourage you to write
> to Mr. Jim Hartman <jhartman@asksam.com>
> and tell him the same thing.
>

Mike Melancon
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All of the traffic on the list regarding the best programming enviroment
leads me to asking the question what is the best way to learn to write
code in C+? Where could I find some information for a beginner?

Jeff


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> knew where I was, but what interested me more was how close I might be =
to
> San Francisco or Los Angeles or Phoenix. After pulling out my laptop =
and

Oh so you mean limited cartographic features rather than topographic =
features?
That could be a much smaller database.

GaryS

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> I have MS Fortran 5.0 running on the 200LX.  Works great.  I don't know
> if any of the Fortran 90 compilers would work or not...

I have 5.1 on my LX but none of the Fortran 90 compilers I know of
would fit. Fortran 90 is sufficiently different that it would be time
consuming to rewrite the code to compile. I would then be faced with
the fact that functions to duplicate all the Windoze calls (my Fortran
90 prog is a real Windoze app with dialogs, menus and multiple
document windows) would have to be created. Better to convert to C
and use the PAL library.

I also run Cpack on an NT machine but have not encountered the problem
you are experiencing. Are you sure some of the CPACK files didn't get
corrupted or deleted in some fashion?

Installed any new software lately?

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:07:16 -0400
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Well, I can't speak to C, as I'm not a C programmer - but I use Power
Basic on my 200LX all the time. (Power Basic is the followup to Borland's
Turbo Basic - www.powerbasic.com). I prefer version 2.x to the current
3.x, as it's a smaller package, but 2.x works flawlessly. PowerBasic now
has an "intro" basic as $25.00 shareware. I suspect this is quite similar
to Turbo Basic i.e. Power Basic version 1, and should be a good starter
package.

Larry



On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Liam M. Early wrote:

>     Can anyone see a problem programming with
>
>     Turbo Basic on the HP ?.  What advantages does
>
>     the Turbo C compiler have over basic, other than
>
>     more compact compiled programs?
>
>
>
>     Regards......Liam
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> All of the traffic on the list regarding the best programming enviroment
> leads me to asking the question what is the best way to learn to write
> code in C+? Where could I find some information for a beginner?

Jeff:

I started out using the book that comes with the Power C compiler - it
is an excellent tutorial and reference book in one binding.  Also, I would
*highly* recomment you get a copy of "The C Programming Language", 2nd
Edition, by Kernigan and Ritchie.  Armed with these, just start writing
code, and code, and more code.  Practice.

-Chris


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Thanks for the suggestions I received.  I have now completely re-installed
the CPACK on my machine.  Same problem.  Now I'm certain it is an NT
matter - if only I can figure out what might have changed???  Boy, this
is going to be tough.  Any way to get an error message of any sort from
FILER when it refuses to start?   Other ideas?

-Chris



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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 07:41:51 -0500
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Hello
  Does anyone know where I can obtain specs for HP laserjet 2 programming
for the palmtop?  What sort of an interface is it and other details.

TIA


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I'll send you two bucks for it. I have a friend with a 100LX and
no serial connection (he's not very technical) using a TruFFS
flash card. If he blows his C: drive, he won't have any way
to get the True FFS driver on C:.  I could send him that card
with the driver and then get him back on the air over the phone.
Stan Peters,  Box 2028, Fairfield, IA 52556

Jeff Johns wrote:

> I have a 1MB Newton SRAM card available if anyone on the list needs it. It's
> left over from my Newton MP100 days of long ago. Believe it or not, there
> was a time when I thought the Newtons were the best thing since sliced bread
> <grin>. Actually, the MP120 was a nice machine, especially since it had two
> PC card slots. I don't really think the card is worth much, but if anyone
> wants it drop me a line. It may be useful for backing up a 1MB LX.
>
> 73 Jeff KF4KGQ
>
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:29:11 -0400
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Think of it as cartographic with limited topographic features. If the Grand
Canyon is between me and the target I want to know. If there's a dry creek
bed, I don't really care. Interstates I care about.

Think of it this way. You're in the middle of the forest with a broken arm,
plus you were blindfolded when dropped off. What you want to know is
precisely where you are, where the nearest town or major road is, and what
major obstacles may lie between. What road the doctor's office is on isn't
relevent because when you get to civilization you can ask.

--Patrick

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> knew where I was, but what interested me more was how close I might be to
> San Francisco or Los Angeles or Phoenix. After pulling out my laptop and

Oh so you mean limited cartographic features rather than topographic
features?
That could be a much smaller database.

GaryS

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I, along with many of you have used the term 'best thing since sliced bread'
in our conversations throughout life. However, does anybody know:

1) where this expression came from and
2) what was the greatest thing before sliced bread.

Just a curious question, I don't know, and my grandfather worked for
Colonial Bread (Dothan, AL) most of his life.
--Patrick McGouirk

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Date: Thursday, August 27, 1998 7:30 AM
Subject: Newton SRAM Card
>Believe it or not, there
>was a time when I thought the Newtons were the best thing since sliced
bread
><grin>
>
>73 Jeff KF4KGQ

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Hate to break up this great C debate (Turbo C++ 1.0 gets my vote, but then
I've had it since release). I have a question concerning assembly.

Which is better, TASM or MASM? I have the latest version of MASM, but is
TASM that much (if any) better?

--Patrick McGouirk

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Date: Thursday, August 27, 1998 7:30 AM
Subject: Best programming environment on Palmtop



I agree! I have tried several, but I find Borland Turbo C 2.0 and TASM 2.0
to be the best solution for development on the palmtop. Together with NKIT
you can create great EXM programs. I had some functions in my HP Alarm
Clock program written in assembler, so that's why I used TASM. The
compilation is fast and since NKIT is written to be used with Turbo C-
this is the best solution.

Regards,

Jorgen Wallgren

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:43:18 +0200
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Somebody willing to inform me how to get ride off the SMTP-headers in
messages ? Something to modify in POST.CFG ? I must admit that I have
fiddle around a little bit but not change something important. But
afterall ......

Harry Wellner - Gouda/Netherlands

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Jeff,

> Ok, I've got nomouse.exe now, could someone please post to the list or
email
> me privately the files needed to run Win 3.0 on my LX. Many thanks!!!

I'm not sure whether it's accurate (I haven't yet tried it myself), but
here goes:

  Running Windows 3.0 on the Palmtop

  For any-one who wants to try it here is a minimal version of Windows 3.0
  posted to The HP Palmtop Mailing List by Stefan Peichl

  WIN      COM      3824 05-09-90  12:00p
  CGA      DRV     45680 05-09-90  12:00p
  COMM     DRV      7120 05-09-90  12:00p
  KEYBOARD DRV      7041 05-09-90  12:00p
  MOUSE    DRV      4896 05-09-90  12:00p
  SOUND    DRV      3622 05-09-90  12:00p
  SYSTEM   DRV      2784 05-09-90  12:00p
  GDI      EXE    129691 05-09-90  12:00p
  KERNEL   EXE     69120 05-09-90  12:00p
  PROGMAN  EXE     55872 05-09-90  12:00p
  USER     EXE    231808 05-09-90  12:00p
  CGAOEM   FON      4576 05-09-90  12:00p
  CGASYS   FON      4368 05-09-90  12:00p
  SYSTEM   INI       114 10-28-95   2:15p
         17 file(s)     570516 bytes

  The WIN.COM file is the renamed original WIN.CNF file.

  Your SYSTEM.INI should have only the following 5 lines:

  boot
  display.drv  = cga.drv
  fonts.fon    = cgasys.fon
  oemfonts.fon = cgaoem.fon
  network.drv  =

  Note: You cannot switch your palmtop off while in windows, as windows
  uses it's own keyboard driver.

Let me know how it works for you.

Good luck,
B.

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Barry,

> I am grateful to you for your interest in my XINE problem and for your
> trouble in sending a personal message with a possible solution.
>
> Although there has not been enough time to investigate your
> suggestion(s) fully, I have to admit to being puzzled and intrigued;

Actually, I owe you an apology for steering you wrong. After thinking about
it a bit more, I realized that the FILER.INI trick I described won't help
you out because it only passes a single filename as an argument to the
program; XINE needs two filenames, for <infile> and <outfile>.

> I have never investigated the FILER at this level and did not know
> that there was a file .INI. though  obviously there must be some way
> that settings are stored.  I thought it was in FILER.ENV.  Anyway, to
> come to the point, I can't find FILER.INI, even when including hidden
> files in the search.  I tried making such a file to store the line
> that you indicated above but I don't know how to make use of it.  You
> can't run a file with an extension .INI, so what do you do please?

For those who do not know of this very useful FILER.INI trick, here is the
scoop from Section 15 of the HP200LX FAQ at <http://www.hplx.net/faq.html>:

  Q. How can I get the filer to run a program based on a file's type?

  Create the file c:\_dat\filer.ini, containing file extensions and
  commands to run, as shown in this example:

            Launcher
            ICN=D:\BIN\ICN200.EXE %
            ZIP=A:\BIN\PKUNZIP.EXE %

  When you select a file and press ENTER, if the selected file has the
  extention ".ICN" the icon editor on drive D: is started and the file name
  (the `%' is replaced by the name of the selected file) is given as
  argument. If the selected file has the extention ".ZIP" it is
  automatically unzipped (assuming PKUNZIP lives on a:\bin).

(Note that this function only works on the 200LX Filer; the 100LX has no
such feature.) Any program that can be run from the DOS command prompt
using a single filename as an argument can also be launched from Filer in
this manner. Unfortunately, XINE requires two filenames, so it doesn't fall
into this category.

What would be handy is a DOS utility for batch files that pauses for
filenames and other arguments, then passes them onto the program. For
example, if such a utility was named GETARG.COM, you could then write a
batch file (named RUNXINE.BAT or something) like this:

GETARG=1 "Which input file?"
GETARG=2 "Which output file?"
D:\BIN\XINE.COM arg1 arg2

Then, to run XINE from Filer, you can simply "point and shoot" RUNXINE.BAT
in the Filer, and would be prompted for your <infile> and <outfile>.

So. Who has such a utility as my mythical GETARG.COM?

B.

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Just a curiosity about the licensing thing.
Since in my original Turbo C++ 1.0 packaging they gave me 2 sets of disks
(3.5 and 5.25), doesn't that technically give me two copies of software?
I know this is a silly thing, but something had to get my brain cells moving
this morning.

--Patrick

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Date: Wednesday, August 26, 1998 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Best programming environment on Palmtop


>
>Probably the best C/C++ compiler would be Turbo C++ 1.01.  There are some
>other freeware/shareware C compilers, like Power C and Mix C, and maybe
>Microsoft QuickC would work, but Turbo C++ 1.01 is (in my opinion) the
>best.  The only trouble is a) where to find it, and b) the cost.
>
>That sounds like it would probably run.  If you're interested in Turbo
>C++, you can use it legally by buying a newer version of Turbo C++ (like
>3.0 for DOS or 4.5 for Windows, I believe).  Then you are allowed by
>Borland to use either the new version or the old version.  Then the only
>problem is finding it.  I believe one of the "abandonware" sites has it up
>(think it's http://comports.com/hplx ) but be forewarned that downloading
>it without owning a newer copy (which you don't use) would probably make
>Borland mad.

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On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, River Wolf wrote:

> Hate to break up this great C debate (Turbo C++ 1.0 gets my vote, but then
> I've had it since release). I have a question concerning assembly.
>
> Which is better, TASM or MASM? I have the latest version of MASM, but is
> TASM that much (if any) better?

Personally, I like TASM better... it comes with some nifty utilities, and
is smaller, and can use its own, enhanced syntax, or MASM compatibility
mode.

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On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, River Wolf wrote:

> I, along with many of you have used the term 'best thing since sliced bread'
> in our conversations throughout life. However, does anybody know:
>
> 1) where this expression came from and
> 2) what was the greatest thing before sliced bread.
> Just a curious question, I don't know, and my grandfather worked for
> Colonial Bread (Dothan, AL) most of his life.

Well, I'm no expert, but I thought it was because before the bread
companies started pre-slicing the bread, it came in a big loaf, and then
you had to slice it up yourself.  Once they started slicing it before they
packaged and sold it, well-- you could just grab a couple slices and make
yourself a sandwich, instead of having to go find a sharp knife, slice off
a ragged hunk, and probably cut yourself in the process.

As for the greatest thing before sliced bread... Hmm... that's probably
still being debated by philosophers all over the world.

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In a message dated 98-08-27 10:50:27 EDT, you write:
>  I, along with many of you have used the term 'best thing
>  since sliced bread' in our conversations throughout
our ADULTHOOD.

>  However, does anybody know:
>  1) where this expression came from and
>  2) what was the greatest thing before sliced bread.

I don't know but I been told that eskimo Pita bread is mighty cold.
The greatest thing before sliced bread wuz BREAD itself.

The expression is less than a hundred years old as slicing machings
have only been around that long.  They came into being just before PCs.

yor pal al...................

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:41:28 -0400
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At 11:55 AM 8/27/98 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 98-08-27 10:50:27 EDT, you write:
>>  I, along with many of you have used the term 'best thing
>>  since sliced bread' in our conversations throughout
>our ADULTHOOD.
>
>>  However, does anybody know:
>>  1) where this expression came from and
>>  2) what was the greatest thing before sliced bread.
>
>I don't know but I been told that eskimo Pita bread is mighty cold.
>The greatest thing before sliced bread wuz BREAD itself.
>
>The expression is less than a hundred years old as slicing machings
>have only been around that long.  They came into being just before PCs.

I don't know about 'just before pc's'...  i was under the impression that
sliced bread as a product available at the grocery store has been around
since the fifties.


R. James Scheffler
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:55:17 -0600
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Actually - the advent of sliced bread was one of the worst things that
happen to human-kind.

There used to be a very special ritual among this tribe of apes - and that
was "breaking bread' - the treaing of bread amongst close friends and
family.

This is culturally remembered as the shabat bread and even the "last
supper"

"best thing since sliced bread?" - in my book it has all been downhill
since pre-made, pre-packaged "sliced bread"

besides - they will not fit in my PCMCIA slot....

On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Al Chin wrote:

> In a message dated 98-08-27 10:50:27 EDT, you write:
> >  I, along with many of you have used the term 'best thing
> >  since sliced bread' in our conversations throughout
> our ADULTHOOD.
>
> >  However, does anybody know:
> >  1) where this expression came from and
> >  2) what was the greatest thing before sliced bread.
>
> I don't know but I been told that eskimo Pita bread is mighty cold.
> The greatest thing before sliced bread wuz BREAD itself.
>
> The expression is less than a hundred years old as slicing machings
> have only been around that long.  They came into being just before PCs.
>
> yor pal al...................
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I am trying to use a Intel Value Series 100, Flash 4mb memory card.  My
200LX will not see the card at all.  Trying to format the card will not
work.  Unfortunatly I do not have any documentation on this Flash card.
Any help with getting this card to work would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
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Someone mentioned recently that it would be nice to be able to read the
Palmpilot prc compressed text files. I've just sent a little utility I
wrote to Mitch, so watch the SUPER site - it'll be available shortly.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
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On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:43, <Harry.H.M.Wellner@OPC.SHELL.COM> wrote:

> Somebody willing to inform me how to get ride off the SMTP-headers in
> messages ? Something to modify in POST.CFG ? I must admit that I have
> fiddle around a little bit but not change something important. But
> afterall ......
>
> Harry Wellner - Gouda/Netherlands

Alt + H should do it. Also it can be done from View All Headers
un-check it.



Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.1.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:18:59 EDT
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> Somebody willing to inform me how to get ride off the SMTP-headers in
> messages ? Something to modify in POST.CFG ? I must admit that I have
> fiddle around a little bit but not change something important. But
> afterall ......
>
> Harry Wellner - Gouda/Netherlands
>

Press Alt-view - All headers.

It doesnt get rid of them but causes them not to display.

Darren.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:28:14 -0700
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For all who are wondering... due to my e-mail being down for a good chunk
of last week, I've extended the deadline to enter the contest until 5:00
PM tomorrow, August 27.  (That's Pacific Daylight Time.)

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:52:45 -0400
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I downloaded strip poker from the comports site and it works well. I've
gotten Pam naked a few times already. Does anybody know where I can get
other girls? If I remember correctly, there were several girls (and some
guys, I think.).

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:23:18 -0400
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>I may give C a try if I can do all the programming on the HP200LX.

The same old discussion again. Though being an avid C and assembler
programmer, it is my view that C is far too difficult unless you learn
it for real and use it a lot. Unless you REALLY understand pointers -
and few do - you are NOT a C programmer.

I would still recommend Turbo Pascal. The size is right for the HP, it
is faster to program in, it compiles fast, the .EXE file is for small
programs smaller that the C equivalent as the runtime system is simpler,
you can write just as low-level in Turbo Pascal as in C should you want
to etc. Look back to my old message which as far as I remember was more
detailed and had the codesize for TP version 5.

Jorgen

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 19:17:13 +0000
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Finally, we have the answer to the question that tormented many of us
recently: is HP200LX a tool or a toy? Obviously, a tool...

Mikhail

> I downloaded strip poker from the comports site and it works well. I've
> gotten Pam naked a few times already. Does anybody know where I can get
> other girls? If I remember correctly, there were several girls (and =
some
> guys, I think.).

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:53:53 -0400
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Just a small question concerning the S.U.P.E.R. site.

Why is there a picture of either a HP 320 or 360 on the HP mailing list home
base page?

--Patrick McGouirk

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:59:14 EST
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Subject:      Re: HP Laserjet 2 programming

> Hello
>   Does anyone know where I can obtain specs for HP laserjet 2 programming
> for the palmtop?  What sort of an interface is it and other details.
>
> TIA
>
>
> Cheers,
> Vivek Venugopalan
> vivek@mcs.net

It uses a normal parallel port, not even bidirectional like newer
laser printers. As far as output control it is an old version of HP's
PCL (printer control language) which is just series of unprintable
characters similar to dot matrix printers. You could probably find a
pcl command reference on HP's web site. I have done simple page
formatting manually on the HPII, it is just a case of defining the
needed strings and printing them before the appropriate text.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:11:28 -0400
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Why does it have to be either one exclusively?

                -----Original Message-----
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                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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                Finally, we have the answer to the question that
tormented many of us
                recently: is HP200LX a tool or a toy? Obviously, a
tool...

                Mikhail

                > I downloaded strip poker from the comports site and it
works well. I've
                > gotten Pam naked a few times already. Does anybody
know where I can get
                > other girls? If I remember correctly, there were
several girls (and some
                > guys, I think.).

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:25:28 -0400
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I bought one of these after seeing the positive
comments by some members of the list. BUT so far
W95 cannot recognize my flashcard.

Windows did recognize the device and installed
the PCIC or compatible PCMCIA controller. And
when I insert my flahshcard W95 beeps and in the
PCMCIA control panel it tells me that the card
is in one of the two sockets. I can also Stop it
and remove it.

However I cannot see any sign of the card in
Windows Explorer, and in the System Control Panel
under Device Manager I have a large yellow
question mark in front of Other Devices, PCMCIA
Card Services.

Got my fingers crossed that somebody understands
what the problem is...

thanks

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:26:46 -0400
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:24:32 -0500 (EST)

01h30m39s ago ...
On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, River Wolf wrote:

> Just a small question concerning the S.U.P.E.R. site.
>
> Why is there a picture of either a HP 320 or 360 on the HP mailing list =
home
> base page?

If your talking about the bottom left of my page:

     www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml

It looks to be a 200LX to me. Actually it is not my image, it was
supplied by the administrater of the HP Palmtop Web Ring.

Cheers,


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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:58:45 -0700
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              Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
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No.  However It is a common belief, severalsoftware licences make s
special point about this NOT be two licences. Simply duel media.

On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, River Wolf wrote:

> Just a curiosity about the licensing thing.
> Since in my original Turbo C++ 1.0 packaging they gave me 2 sets of disks
> (3.5 and 5.25), doesn't that technically give me two copies of software?
> I know this is a silly thing, but something had to get my brain cells moving
> this morning.
> --Patrick

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:20:43 GMT
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On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:56:12 -0400, John Linkowsky wrote:

>I am trying to use a Intel Value Series 100, Flash 4mb memory card.  My
>200LX will not see the card at all.  Trying to format the card will not
>work.  Unfortunatly I do not have any documentation on this Flash card.
>Any help with getting this card to work would be greatly appreciated.

It's almost certainly a linear flash card. You can probably access it =
using
the True Flash TFFS drivers.  Contact me by email if you need a copy.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:22:24 GMT
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On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:59:15 GMT, Neil Tungate wrote:

>Someone mentioned recently that it would be nice to be able to read the
>Palmpilot prc compressed text files. I've just sent a little utility I
>wrote to Mitch, so watch the SUPER site - it'll be available shortly.

If you really can't wait, it's now on my web site at:

http://www.skipper.demon.co.uk/software

You need to download doc2txt2.zip

--=20
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:32:04 -0500
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I haven't actually seen, and as such have not read any of the
documentation about compact flash / 3.5" floppy disk adapters.  Have any
of you used or read about them?  I don't really need one for my palmtop
(it might be nice, however) I am more interested in the method used by
the device for communicating with the 3.5" drive assembly.  My direct
question is, can one of these cards simulate other than the MS-DOS disk
format?  Specifically, can I write to a compact flash in such a fashion
as to have the combined flash / disk adapter "look" like a disk for
another platform other than MS-DOS, like Mac, or Amiga?

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:32:58 -0400
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              River Wolf <rivrwolf@HOM.NET>
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No, I'm referring to http://www.palmtop.net/hplist.html in the upper left
corner. It's definately not a 200lx (no separate numeric keypad) and the
screen width knocks the 300lx off. It's identical to a 360lx, but could be a
320lx as well.

--Patrick

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Subject: Re: Picture of a 320/360????


Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:24:32 -0500 (EST)

01h30m39s ago ...
On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, River Wolf wrote:

> Just a small question concerning the S.U.P.E.R. site.
>
> Why is there a picture of either a HP 320 or 360 on the HP mailing list
home
> base page?

If your talking about the bottom left of my page:

     www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml

It looks to be a 200LX to me. Actually it is not my image, it was
supplied by the administrater of the HP Palmtop Web Ring.

Cheers,


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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:55:49 +0200
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Maybe W95 can install the necessary IDE driver, *if there is a free
interrupt* (IRQ)

You may also configure it manually (Sytem/...) to use IRQ 3 or 4, but
then you can't use the corresponding COM port in parallel.

I'll be back, if this doesn't help or isn't explained good enough. :-)

Hermann

Allen Solof wrote:
>
> I bought one of these after seeing the positive
> comments by some members of the list. BUT so far
> W95 cannot recognize my flashcard.
>
> Windows did recognize the device and installed
> the PCIC or compatible PCMCIA controller. And
> when I insert my flahshcard W95 beeps and in the
> PCMCIA control panel it tells me that the card
> is in one of the two sockets. I can also Stop it
> and remove it.
>
> However I cannot see any sign of the card in
> Windows Explorer, and in the System Control Panel
> under Device Manager I have a large yellow
> question mark in front of Other Devices, PCMCIA
> Card Services.
>
> Got my fingers crossed that somebody understands
> what the problem is...
>
> thanks
>
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:18:29 +0000
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What do I have to add to initialization string in WWW/LX to make my modem =
dial
quietly (or at least qieter...)

It's an EPX Thinfax 14/8meg.

Current string is ATZ.

Thanks.

Mikhail

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:44:12 -0700
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From:         "Whay S. Lee" <wslee@AI.MIT.EDU>
Subject:      "The Scientific and Technical Library CDROM"

Folks:

I came across a "The Scientific and Technical Library
Shareware/Freeware CDROM" (Walnut Creek, August 1994) a while ago.  It
contains quite a concentrated collection of old engineering/
science/math related DOS programs that are usually more scattered
across various ftp sites.  I think some of them would be of interest
to fellow 200LX users.  (it also contains a version of pspice, not
sure if this is the one that people have been talking about though).

I haven't been able to test-run everything on the 200LX,
but here are a few I know works:

        espresso - boolean minimization
        smc - very small C compiler (around 100K).
              Includes the source code. Good for quick and
        rcs - revision control

There are a bunch of other stuff (ham radio, math, medical, biology
engineering, electronics, spell checkers).

I have put the cdrom at

        http://koaykak.stanford.edu

so that you folks can take a look if anything there
interests you. (This will not be permenant.)

If you find something interesting that works on the 200LX, please do
upload them to S.U.P.E.R , eddie or some other regular palmtop sites
with appropriate descriptions.

I hope some of you will find this useful.

whay.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:00:45 -0400
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John,

Bad News First: The divers built-in to your 200LX are meant only for the
newer ATA-type Flash cards, and will not work with the older Intel-type
Flash cards.

Not So Bad News: If you can find a copy of a driver called MS-FLASH.SYS (or
another called TFFS.SYS), and load either of these from your CONFIG.SYS
with the line:

     DEVICE=MS-FLASH.SYS  (or DEVICE=TFFS.SYS)

...then you should be able to use the card with the only penalties being a
bit of RAM overhead and a somewhat slow response time.

Or you can just by a new 4 Mb ATA card. I believe Marcan
(http://www.marcan-dist.com/) will mail you one for $65 bucks or, better
still, a 20 MB for $109.

Good luck.
B.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:56:05 -0400
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Mikhail Epelbaum wrote:
>
> What do I have to add to initialization string in WWW/LX to make my modem dial
> quietly (or at least qieter...)
>
> It's an EPX Thinfax 14/8meg.
>
> Current string is ATZ.

On most modems, M0 (that's a zero) will turn off the speaker.
To lower the volume, L0 shoudl work.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1998 16:15:11 -0500
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Wanna trade for somthing?

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Hey guy;

When you run CPACK, the filer comes
up but you're missing the ICONS?

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:21:01 -0700
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On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, River Wolf wrote:

> No, I'm referring to http://www.palmtop.net/hplist.html in the upper left
> corner. It's definately not a 200lx (no separate numeric keypad) and the
> screen width knocks the 300lx off. It's identical to a 360lx, but could be a
> 320lx as well.

Mitch Hamm set that up a while ago, and an equally astute LX user noted that
same fact back then. I forget Mitch's exact reply, and maybe he'll chime in
on this one, but the answer didn't seem to bother anyone and so he left it.

- Longden

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a small question concerning the S.U.P.E.R.
site. as to Why there is a picture of
either a HP 320 or 360 on the HP mailing
list home base page?

I think its for dis-information....
or as a carrot before the stick....
or what te LX200 could've been.....

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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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> Mitch Hamm set that up a while ago, and an equally astute LX user noted that
> same fact back then. I forget Mitch's exact reply, and maybe he'll chime in
> on this one, but the answer didn't seem to bother anyone and so he left it.

That is supposedly a picture of a 320LX prototype that I put up a l-o-n-g time
ago when we all thought "the next one" was going to be something we would all
want. Since that mailing list page is really just an archive now with the list
running over at UCONN, I just kept it for nostalgia. Same deal with the HP
Mailing List members page.

If anyone has a REALLY good picture of a 200LX that doesn't take too long to
load (< 20K), I would be happy to replace the existing odious one. :)

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:54:36 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Al:

> When you run CPACK, the filer comes
> up but you're missing the ICONS?

Hmmm, not quite.  When you start CPACK, you are in a partial APP MGR
on your desktop.  I can do this, and all my icons are there.  All the
other apps seem to work correctly (memo, xlate, dbase, etc.).  Except
for FILER.  It "starts", the screen clears momentarily, then poof, I'm
back in the app mgr.  No error messages, nothing.  I tried using the
standalone FILER technique described in the package on SUPER, and I
effectively got the same thing - FILER exited immediately without any
error code.  Mystery...

-Chris

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A detailed installation guide for Windows 3.0 on the palmtop is
contained in my SLEEPON.ZIP program available on SUPER

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:58:49 -0700
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I don't have much hope for NT-to-200lx COM packages.  TFWIN200 works, and
looks simlar to Filer - you might try that, it's free.  HyperTerminal also
works, but is not for everyone, though I like it.

The trouble with such things is that what works on DOS probably won't work
on NT, though it might work on '95.  To ensure successful communication to
the palmtop on NT, you have to use the Windows APIs, and I'm sure CPACK
doesn't do that.

I would prefer lxtools for NT, which I would volunteer to adapt form the DOS
version, but apparently there has been little interest in that.

-Geo.

>Thanks for the suggestions I received.  I have now completely re-installed
>the CPACK on my machine.  Same problem.  Now I'm certain it is an NT
>matter - if only I can figure out what might have changed???  Boy, this
>is going to be tough.  Any way to get an error message of any sort from
>FILER when it refuses to start?   Other ideas?
>
>-Chris

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I tried Sphinx C-- and love it!
Got it from simtel. Look for file c--final.zip
It's something in-between of C and Assembly, generates
very tight code (tiny model only), and also pretty small itself.
Full of samples, includes compiler sources. The graphics
library is mostly VGA but that's fixable. It's greenware.
I'm not sure it's being supported by the author anymore but,
hey, it's in our hands now!
Oh, and my LX loves it, too...

Regards,
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I tried Sphinx C-- and love it!
Got it from simtel. Look for file c--final.zip
It's something in-between of C and Assembly, generates
very tight code (tiny model only), and also quite small itself.
Full of samples, includes compiler sources. The graphics
library is mostly VGA but that's fixable. It's greenware.
I'm not sure it's being supported by the author anymore but,
hey, it's in our hands now!
Oh, and my LX loves it, too...

COMMON PLACE
There's no best tool per se. It really depends on what are
you trying to accomplish and your resources.
E.O.C.P.
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:03:34 -0400
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>From:    Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
>Someone posted a message to the list which showed what command line sw=
itches
>to put after pkzip in order to zip up the entire c: drive while mainta=
ing
>the correct directory structure so that the .zip file could be unzippe=
d with
>the correct structure. Could someone please repost this information.

Here's how I Zip up my C: drive...
PKZIP -ex -Pr -x*.exe a:\work\cbackup.zip c:\*.*

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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1998 18:58:34 -0500
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm

How come sleepon.zip?

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 11:05:02 +1000
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> >I may give C a try if I can do all the programming on the HP200LX.
>
> I would still recommend Turbo Pascal.

I have to agree here.

Pascal also makes a *lot* more sense than C; more internally consistent,
the implementation details are properly hidden, and it does sensible
things to save you grief - like array bounds checking!

But for maximum-performance, C and then assembler are the way to go.

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Guy walks into the patent office.

He demonstrates the blades of his new invention on a loaf to the patent
examiner, to form neat, regular slices.

The examiner is very impressed. Excited, he exclaims, "That's the best
thing since ... since ... "


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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:13:14 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
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Where is the best place to locate a range
of multipurpose icons for the HP200.

I've seen a utility on SUPER for converting
Windows bmp  icons to the HP format, does
this work well, how does it convert the color?

And what and where is the best ICON
creater the one built in is a little primative

Is anyone using the 123 Gui program? I see
it requires More EXM.  I am puzzled by the comment
in the More EXM documentation that the program
was created to ovecome the problem that only
8 EXM programs can be put on the AppManager.
I' m sure I've more than 8 on mine?

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--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 20:35:53 +0200
From: Dejan Radic <dradic@eunet.yu>
To: support@dasoft.com
Subject: FTP problem

   Hi. I have a problem with WWW/LX.

  Does HV (HTML-viewer) handle FTP-requests? When I send a
request, my WWW/LX reads only 531 bytes from the server
and then stops till the time out is over. If HV does
handle FTP, I'd like to know:

a) if I login as an anonymous user, how do I login? i.e.
   where do I write my username and the password?

b) if I use a username different than "anonymous", how do
   I login etc.?

  And one question about the POST/LX: when I download a
ZIP-file with WWW/LX, transfer speed is about 1300-1400
cps. The same thing done with POST/LX (even if it isn't an
archive, but plain text) shows the speed of no more than
900cps.( I have a 14400 modem.) Is it normal for POST/LX
to be that much slower than HV, concerning the fact they
use the same communication program?


Regards,

Dejan Radic
Belgrade
Yugoslavia

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:32:12 +0200
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Yes, yes, yes!
For the occasional programmer there is really only two choices:
Basic
Turbo Pascal.
Of the two Turbo Pascal has the edge being small and powerfull and forces
you from making the most intricate mistakes. Debugging C is no fun. Period.
My basic code inevitably ends up being more complex than my Pascal somehow.
Just my 2 cents worth!

-Paul

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> Fra: Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
> Til: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Emne: Best programming environment on Palmtop
> Dato: 27. august 1998 21:23
>
> >I may give C a try if I can do all the programming on the HP200LX.
>
> The same old discussion again. Though being an avid C and assembler
> programmer, it is my view that C is far too difficult unless you learn
> it for real and use it a lot. Unless you REALLY understand pointers -
> and few do - you are NOT a C programmer.
>
> I would still recommend Turbo Pascal. The size is right for the HP, it
> is faster to program in, it compiles fast, the .EXE file is for small
> programs smaller that the C equivalent as the runtime system is simpler,
> you can write just as low-level in Turbo Pascal as in C should you want
> to etc. Look back to my old message which as far as I remember was more
> detailed and had the codesize for TP version 5.
>
> Jorgen
>
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On Fri, 28 Aug 1998 11:05:02 +1000, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

>Pascal also makes a *lot* more sense than C; more internally consistent,
>the implementation details are properly hidden, and it does sensible
>things to save you grief - like array bounds checking!

We won't mention the bizarrely illogical statement terminators :-)

>But for maximum-performance, C and then assembler are the way to go.

Agreed.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:53:02 -0700
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At 7:51 -0700 8/27/98, River Wolf wrote:
{Just a curiosity about the licensing thing.
{Since in my original Turbo C++ 1.0 packaging they gave me 2 sets of
{disks
{(3.5 and 5.25), doesn't that technically give me two copies of software?


No. They probably specifically exclude this case. But generally, when you buy one box, you get one license. Unless you explicitly buy multiple licenses.

Most of the software I use specifies one cpu at a time and allows one or t backup copies. So I'm comfortable loading it at home and at work.


Cheers,  Tony

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:23:36 -0700
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Subject:      Flash Cards for 100LX?
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Hi all,
   Is there a way to use these with a 100LX? Marcan says they will not work as is.

{Or you can just by a new 4 Mb ATA card. I believe Marcan
{(http://www.marcan-dist.com/) will mail you one for $65 bucks or, better
{still, a 20 MB for $109.

Or... does anyone know of a source of 10 - 20 M flash cards that work with a 100LX and  Stacker.

Right know I have a 5 Mbyte HP card with Stacker - things are getting tight as you might imagine.

Thanks,  Tony

At 15:00 -0700 8/27/98, Bruce Martin wrote:
{John,
{
{Bad News First: The divers built-in to your 200LX are meant only for the
{newer ATA-type Flash cards, and will not work with the older Intel-type
{Flash cards.
{
{Not So Bad News: If you can find a copy of a driver called MS-FLASH.SYS
{(or
{another called TFFS.SYS), and load either of these from your CONFIG.SYS
{with the line:
{
{     DEVICE=MS-FLASH.SYS  (or DEVICE=TFFS.SYS)
{
{...then you should be able to use the card with the only penalties being
{a
{bit of RAM overhead and a somewhat slow response time.
{
{Or you can just by a new 4 Mb ATA card. I believe Marcan
{(http://www.marcan-dist.com/) will mail you one for $65 bucks or, better
{still, a 20 MB for $109.

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 01:27:19 -0400
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>Which is better, TASM or MASM? I have the latest version of MASM, but
>is TASM that much (if any) better?

I have both and would any time pick TASM.

TASM is better thought out, takes up less space, accepts MASM commands
etc. Clearly better. However, I am not happy about Borlands service any
more (they used to be the most customer friendly company on earth);
Microsoft is - believe it or not - far more helpful.

However, if you make .COM files, the shareware assembler A86 is number
one. It is very small, very fast and very easy to use. Don't leave home
without it! You can get it at http://eji.com/index.htm. I have written
tons of programs in this. However, if you want to interface to C/C++, I
would recommend TASM.


>Just a curiosity about the licensing thing.
>Since in my original Turbo C++ 1.0 packaging they gave me 2 sets of disk=
s
>(3.5 and 5.25), doesn't that technically give me two copies of software?=


Technically that means that you got two disk sets.
How many serial numbers did they give you?

Jorgen

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:30:51 -0700
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Tony D. Guzewicz wrote:
>
> 40 meg Epson flashcard for sale at $125.00
> Email me privately
> Tony Guzewicz


Would you take $100. for it -- if it will work in a 200LX.

Thanks,

David

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:54:21 -0500
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This may or may not be useful, but ...
I had a devil of a time getting serial devices, including the CPACK, to work
under NT.  Turns out that I had installed a serial label printer (CoStar
Labelwriter), and that printer driver, even when not in use and not the
default, completely hogged the serial port so that no DOS programs,
including CPACK and Pocket Quicken Connect, could access it.  After removing
the printer driver, all is well.

Kurt

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 07:24:31 -0400
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 03:56:04 +0000

On 1998-08-27 DSands@avicenna.com said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >Longden et al, what is the difference between the -P and the -p
   >commands?  I always thought that if you wanted pathnames stored you
   >needed the big P?

Good question. But I'm definitely getting stored pathnames using -p.
According to pkzip, both options store the pathnames, but -P additionally
stores the pathname specified in the command, so for example

pkzip -rp test.zip \app\*.* stores everything under (but not including)
\app.

By contrast,
pkzip -rP test.zip \app\*.* stores as before, but also the \app portion
of the pathname. For my backups, -p works fine the way I use it.

   >Also, do you delete and restore the TMP directory every time you
   >backup?

I use the TMP directory on my C drive for dumping test files, playing with
downloaded programs, etc. I just wanted an area that I knew I could erase
nightly, like taking out the trash at night. The reason I delete the
directory using DELTREE is that some funky programs would occasionally
create bogus filenames or with special attributes that ATTRIB and normal
DELETE had problems with. Also, sometimes the programs created additional
subdirectories under TMP. The DELTREE/MKDIR combo is only two lines and
works every time, plus Filer's UNDELETE has a harder time recovering the
deleted directory/files, which makes the erasures more certain for things
like password files.

   >Finally, why not use the -u switch to updte the zip file every
   >night?

I wanted the nightly backup to be a mirror-image of the C drive (sans
EMM file). Asking pkzip to update an archive seemed to be asking it
to do more than I wanted. What if I had deleted files (intentionally)
on the C drive...they'd still be on an updated archive wouldn't they
and would show up on the next restore (as well as taking up space on
the archive).

One of these days I'll research it some more. Took a lot of fussing
to get it working in the first place and naturally I forgot to take
notes <g>.

- Longden

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   >>Someone posted a message to the list which showed what command
   >line switches to put after pkzip in order to zip up the entire c:
   >>drive while maintaining the correct directory structure so that
   >>the .zip file could be unzipped with the correct structure. Could
   >>someone please repost this information.
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   >Here's how I Zip up my C: drive...
   >PKZIP -ex -Pr -x*.exe a:\work\cbackup.zip c:\*.*
   >I exclude all *.EXE files so the zip won't be so big.  The idea is
   >I can restore executables from another source if needed.

This is true. However, maybe it's my bad luck, but my c: drive usually
craps out at the worst time and I'm usually not in the mood nor position
to dig up spare executables.

My aim was to make the restore as automatic as possible to get going again
in the shortest time. Backing up the executables was a necessary evil in
order to get there. YMMV.

- Longden

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> Think of it as cartographic with limited topographic features. If the Grand
> Canyon is between me and the target I want to know. If there's a dry creek
> bed, I don't really care. Interstates I care about.


After not being to the Grand Canyon in over 20 years, when I next
visited, I parked in the lot away from the rim.  I walked thru the
pine forests as if I did not know the Grand Canyon were not there,
approaching like some innocent traveling north to Utah to get a feeling
of what it was like to come to this 'minor' obstacle.  It is pretty flat
and innocent appearing and then you emerge and stare into this yawning
abyss.  Truly, a fascinating way to approach the Canyon.


> Think of it this way. You're in the middle of the forest with a broken arm,
> plus you were blindfolded when dropped off. What you want to know is

It would have been very generous of those who blindfolded you and broke
your arm to leave you your HP and gps system! (gd&r)

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:39:18 -0700
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Liam M. Early wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> I noticed from the HP listserv that you
> have ACAD running on your palmtop, is
> it practical to run on a palmtop?
>
> What do you use it for? isn't there
> a CAD program called PAL for the HP?
> is it any good.
>
> Regards.....Liam
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Acad on an HP is only practical if you have enough memory to store it.
I have 6 megs, although it might fit on HPs with less.  I tried PALDRAW
and didn't see any value to it when there are DOS CAD programs that do
more better.

David

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:22:22 -0600
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> > the King James version(AV) and the AV_RSV versions are there for download.
> > The AV_NIV version is there too, but you have to register to read it.
>
> Owen:
>
> To what site are you refering?  I could only find the KJ (AV) file on Tom
> Hoover's site.  Where are you seeing the RSV and NIV versions?
>
> -Chris Lott

Click on the "FTP" link on my home page.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:04:41 +0100
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of
> Tim Shephard
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 5:19 PM

> Can someone explain to me what sort/lx does?
> I see that it does a backup of the address file, which is nice.  But
> when it says that it is sorting, what is it doing?  Alphabetizing?

Precisely correct Tim. Here is a brief description:

Lx-Sort is a fully customizable address list sort utility for Post/LX (C)
Version 2.0 (the email client of the WWW/LX Plus suite). It is designed to
be run from the 'Externals' menu of Post/LX (Ctrl-X) and provides the
familiar look and feel of the HP Palmtop's built-in applications. WWW/LX
Plus 2.0 uses an ASCII address list file format and although lists may be
viewed and created within the program there is no means of easily sorting
the contents of address list files. LxSort provides this utility and allows
the quick and easy sorting and backing up of your address list/s to any
drive or directory and will save your settings across sessions. LxSort is
designed to integrate seamlessly into Post/LX 2.0 and shares some of its
shortcut keys in addition to providing passive and active methods of
operation...

Regards,

Ian C. Melville
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1998 20:16:26 -0500
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Chris;
My problem is slightly different from yours.
When I run CPACK, It use to look like the LX.
That is with all icons for one to be selected.
Now just the filer appears without the first
layer and no icons are available for selection.

Anyone know what the problem is?
Tried a complete new install.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 06:04:24 -0500
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<HTML>
My card has been sold to one of the group members.
<BR>Thanks All
<BR>Tony Guzewicz</HTML>

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:19:13 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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>   Does HV (HTML-viewer) handle FTP-requests?
I have one about HV too:

If you are viewing files in memory, can you get it to execute cgi
scripts etc? I guess it must +send+ the requests correctly when
viewing a site; but I suppose asking it to launch the program on
the hp200lx itself would amount to making the lx a web-server...


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I've just recently noticed that my beloved 200lx has aspirations of
becoming a CE machine.  I'm having difficulty getting certain DOS apps
running.

I first noticed the problem when I tried to find a hexdump utility to
work on the machine.  I tried six different utilities whose specs
indicated the 200lx could run them; half of those are run by other list
members on their palmtops.  Yesterday, I tried TV.COM (tiny text
viewer) and TED.COM (tiny editor).  I also tried Neil's new prc-to-text
converter.  The response I get from my machine when I try running any of
these is one of the following:

        1)  The prompt reappears almost as soon as I've hit ENTER as if
no command was processed,
        2)  there is a pause, and then a flashing cursor appears and
flashes until I do a reboot,
        3)  the pause and flashing cursor appears but the keyboard locks
up and requires pulling the AAs,
        4)  random characters fill the screen (happened with TED) and the
AAs need pulled to reboot.

My machine is a stock 2M, normal-speed 200lx.  I finally broke down and
did a complete reset with all batteries out so it is now just as it would
appear off-the-shelf (exception - I've reloaded my appts).  I have a 10M,
uncompressed CF card from which I run WP51, TurboCv1, HV, Personal
Ancestral File (PAF), and PGP262 without problems.  It seems the larger
DOS apps work but the little <10K utilities won't.

Anyone have any ideas?

Larry Zimmerman


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> >I may give C a try if I can do all the programming on the HP200LX.
>
> The same old discussion again. Though being an avid C and assembler
> programmer, it is my view that C is far too difficult unless you learn
> it for real and use it a lot. Unless you REALLY understand pointers -
> and few do - you are NOT a C programmer.
>

I don't agree. I have no idea about those pointers- on the other hand I =
do
not call myself programmer. But the fact is that I don't think C is that
difficult. I have been able to put together HP Alarm Clock which is an =
EXM
program and this without being an expert in C. Ok, there are plenty of =
things
I don't know, but my program works....

Regards,

Jorgen Wallgren

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 23:00:08 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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> I don't agree. I have no idea about those pointers- on the other hand I do
> not call myself programmer.

I'm not sure that you can get away with this much longer, Jorgen.

I think it may be time that you faced up to it, and admitted to yourself
that yes you are a prog... look, I know it's difficult, but you can
alwa... oh, OK, I suppose you don't really *have* to call yourself a
pr...  ok, ok, ok.  I'll just drop it. ok?

Sorry.

--
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 06:07:39 -0700
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On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, <mitch@PALMTOP.NET> wrote:

>>I have always been very hesitant about adding a links
collection to palmtop.net. They are very hard to keep
current and I have no way to control what will actually show
up when someone clicks them. I have a very few files whose
authors have requested that I link out to them rather than
physically carry the file on-server, but I prefer the
latter. <<

I know what you mean. I neglected to keep my links up to
date until just 4 or 5 months ago. I try to contact the
webmaster of those sites I plan to link to. And I've started
to limit the links to those that are a real value add owned
by people who will be around. Like palmtop.net (g).

As I'm redesigning my site and verifying all current links, I
may add a page for etexts and ebooks. If it will work.

Thanks, and take care.

Conrad Cox   San Francisco Palmtop User Group
http://www.ccnet.com/~cdcox   cdcox@ccnet.com

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:10:21 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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              98 11:54:21 pm
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> This may or may not be useful, but ...
> I had a devil of a time getting serial devices, including the CPACK, to work
> under NT.  Turns out that I had installed a serial label printer (CoStar
> Labelwriter), and that printer driver, even when not in use and not the
> default, completely hogged the serial port so that no DOS programs,
> including CPACK and Pocket Quicken Connect, could access it.  After removing
> the printer driver, all is well.

Kurt:

Thanks for the tip.  I took your advice and looked to see if anything new
had been added lately.  Nothing that has anything to do with the serial
port as far as I can tell.  In fact, I can access the serial port from a
DOS program, PCPLUS.  I'm thinking that that would rule out the situation
you suggested, but maybe not.

The only program I added recently to my desktop was a WATCOM C/C++
compiler, DOS version only.  Hard to imagine this would hose up a serial
port, but who knows...

-Chris Lott

p.s.  Lest anyone think I've given up my PowerC, I had to use the WATCOM
product on one project because that what our customer has specified.


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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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> Guy walks into the patent office.
>
> He demonstrates the blades of his new invention on a loaf to the patent
> examiner, to form neat, regular slices.
>
> The examiner is very impressed. Excited, he exclaims, "That's the best
> thing since ... since ... "

Baked bread!

- Longden

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Folks,

Any idea why the readme on stacker says it WON't work with pcmcia drives?

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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My experience only... (using bin2hex) is that a conversion of a binary
file of any size takes _time_ even on my x2 200LX.  Please ignore this
observation if you have already allowed for the time factor.

Phil

>-----Original Message-----
>From:  Larry Zimmerman SMTP:zimm4@juno.com
>Sent:  Friday, August 28, 1998 7:24 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       DOS Problems
>
>I've just recently noticed that my beloved 200lx has aspirations of
>becoming a CE machine.  I'm having difficulty getting certain DOS apps
>running.
>
>I first noticed the problem when I tried to find a hexdump utility to
>work on the machine.  I tried six different utilities whose specs
>indicated the 200lx could run them; half of those are run by other list
>members on their palmtops.  Yesterday, I tried TV.COM (tiny text
>viewer) and TED.COM (tiny editor).  I also tried Neil's new prc-to-text
>converter.  The response I get from my machine when I try running any of
>these is one of the following:
>
><snip>

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>From:    "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
>Subject: Turbo Basic

>    Can anyone see a problem programming with

>    Turbo Basic on the HP ?.  What advantages does

>    the Turbo C compiler have over basic, other than

>    more compact compiled programs?

>    Regards......Liam

Do an AltaVista search on "The International
Obfuscated C Code Contest".  I don't think
even Borland allows BASIC code that approaches
things I've seen in that contest.  <grin>

Steve

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Brenda/Jeff:

AT my site, www.comports.com/hplx/files.html, you can get win 2.03.  In the
zip is a readme that gives the minimum.

Anything that can run in windows on the 200LX has to run in real mode.  Win
2.03 runs all apps that are real-mode compat.  As far as that goes, win 3.0
does not run any additional real-mode apps than what win 2.03 can.  EXCEPT
that win 3.0 comes with program manager, file manager and a few more
applets.  These MAY run under 2.03 anyway, but I don't know, since I
haven't tried.

But win 2.03 (like 3.0) can run Word 1.1, excel 2.0, Draw, and a few other
apps.  Get many of these at my site.

For your convenience, here is the readme from win 2.03:

-----
Just unzip all into one folder.  Make sure you have executed SETVERM.EXE
(included) before setup and runtime.  Run SETUP.EXE from these zips and
setup for CGA.

The minimal install is:

WINOLDAP.MOD
WIN200.OVL
WIN200.BIN
WIN.COM
WIN.INI
MSDOS.EXE

and some fonts, if you want them to show up in your apps.
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Adaptec SCSI AHA-2920 unopened never used.   $50.
T1000 XE laptop. Good for library research. $200.
Syquest 44/88 removable HD, good Backup.     $25.
Multimedia speaker sys. pwr/vol ctrl         $35.
Prolinear clone.  Near new and better..  $200.

Will trade, looking for 64-80 flashcard.
Anybody know of a guy that makes trash bags?  :)

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>From:    River Wolf <rivrwolf@HOM.NET>
>Subject: Re: Best programming environment on Palmtop

>Hate to break up this great C debate (Turbo C++ 1.0 gets my vote, but then
>I've had it since release). I have a question concerning assembly.

>Which is better, TASM or MASM? I have the latest version of MASM, but is
>TASM that much (if any) better?

>--Patrick McGouirk

I have used MASM versions from 1.05 (?) through 5.1,
and recently downloaded 6.1 from the IBM developer
site.  I have access to TASM ver 2.0 as well.  My
favorite is MASM 3.0.  The X86 assembly newsgroup
repeatedly "discusses" this issue, so you can search
www.DejaNews.com and come to no particular conclusion.
TASM people say MASM is buggy, MASM people say TASM is
buggy.  They (of course) rarely cite examples.  The
only recent example I have seen was of a TASM bug.

I dislike Borland primarily for their documentation,
environment, and bad experience with their other products.
I like MASM ver 3.0 because it's what I have used most
often, and it is small enough to load anywhere I want it.

TASM also has an "ideal" mode which can either be seen
as an extension cleaning up assembly language, or as a
proprietary format.  The newer MASM versions allow for
all sorts of weird structures to be more compatible with
C programming (I think).

Bottom line, assembly is idiosyncratic.  Get familar
with what you have and don't worry about the other
products (unless there is something you know is missing
in your's).  And then you too can arbitrarily join the
flame wars as an expert.

Steve

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:00:17 -0500
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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> Is anyone using the 123 Gui program? I see
> it requires More EXM.  I am puzzled by the comment
> in the More EXM documentation that the program
> was created to ovecome the problem that only
> 8 EXM programs can be put on the AppManager.
> I' m sure I've more than 8 on mine?
>

I use the program, and it is handy, though I've used 1-2-3
since the late 80s.

You may have more than 8, but do they all work?  I use smmx
with moreexm, and have ended end up putting all my *.exm
programs, except smmx, in smmx.  It works very well.  With
smmx, you can keep your icons anywhere you choose.  Also take a
look at exkey (you can remap the *.exm hot-keys with it).

Let me know if you would like help setting these up.

HTH,

Claud

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Patrick
In a message dated 98-08-28 09:50:54 EDT, you write:
>  Any idea why the readme on stacker says it WON't work with pcmcia drives?
>
Probably because they trying to tell yu it won't.
Only certain version do.  ACE is ver 3.0 and  it
do.  Some Ver 4.0 do but why use V4.0 if V3.0
works?  The LX HW is still the same.  Why use
up more memory to do the same job.  Besides
ACE was made specifically to work for the LX.

yor pal al...............................

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:27:08 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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At 03:23 PM 8/27/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>I may give C a try if I can do all the programming on the HP200LX.
>
>The same old discussion again. Though being an avid C and assembler
>programmer, it is my view that C is far too difficult unless you learn
>it for real and use it a lot. Unless you REALLY understand pointers -
>and few do - you are NOT a C programmer.
>
Jorgen, I have to agree with you about pointers. The only reason I chose C
was because I wanted to use PAL to get the "built-in application" look. PAL
makes it easy for me (a C super novice) to write nice programs which use
the HP200LX GUI.  It's sort of like using LXBatch to write batch file
programs, which I like too.  PAL allowed me to write the Palmtop Periodic
Table program fairly easily. If I had to learn how to implement the HP200LX
GUI with pure C (or another language) by myself I would have never had
enough time to do it. I'm just playing around with this stuff anyway
because I enjoy it.

Hope everything is well your way,

Owen



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Amateur call: KU4ET
Macon Amateur Radio Club W4BKM: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/marc/marc.html
HP200LX: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:42:47 -0400
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At 09:13 AM 8/28/98 +0800, you wrote:
>Where is the best place to locate a range
>of multipurpose icons for the HP200.
>
Check out ICNVU on S.U.P.E.R. It comes with a lot of icons to check out.

>
>I've seen a utility on SUPER for converting
>Windows bmp  icons to the HP format, does
>this work well, how does it convert the color?
>
This would be Ibrowse. It works very well for this. You select from a
dialog window, which colors you want to be black and which colors you want
to be white. Then see how it looks. If you don't like it you play with the
selections until it looks good.

>
>And what and where is the best ICON
>creater the one built in is a little primative
>
I don't know of any other icon creator for the HP200LX. The built-in one is
primative but the 2 color icons are primative too. :)

Good Day,
Owen



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HP200LX: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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Subject:      Re: Best programming environment on Palmtop

Hey
I use HPALARM especially when I'm
charging and cant shut the machine off.
I think it is the best LX full screen
clock ever.  Tried all I culd find and
it wuz the best.  Even got tick tocks.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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IMPORTANT: Attention all users with 64 Meg Palmtop who use Software
Carousel or Super Software Carousel

We have just discovered a critical bug involving Software Carousel and
64 Meg palmtops. All other palmtops and the large flash cards that we
have tested work fine.

If you have not yet installed Software Carousel or Super Software
Carousel, just follow the simple workaround instruction below.

If you already have Software or Super Software Carousel installed, check
for corruption by running CHKDSK from DOS. If corruption is reported,
back up your files. Run RDT2T.EXE found on your 2-megabyte drive to
reformat the 64 Meg "T2T" drive.

Workaround: In FILER go to the SC directory (SC7 with Super Software
Carousel).  Use the MENU File Rename command, and rename OPTIMIZE.EXE
to, for example, OPT.EXE.  Then proceed as normal.

Explanation: Normally, when Software Carousel initializes, to speed
operations it calls a program called OPTIMIZE. OPTIMIZE defragments the
disk before it creates a swap file. On the 64 Meg RAM disk, this does
not seem to be necessary.

When OPTIMIZE runs in conjunction with Software Carousel on a 64 Meg
Palmtop, data corruption occurs. Note that we have tested OPTIMIZE
running in stand-alone mode, and no corruption occurs.

We purchased the rights to sell Software Carousel, "as is."  We will
consult the programmers. If they produce a fix, we will make it
available to our customers.



Hal Goldstein
President
Thaddeus Computing
Publisher
HANDHELD PC MAGAZINE FOR USERS OF WINDOWS CE, THE HP PALMTOP PAPER
110 North Court St.
Fairfield, IA 52556
515 472 6330
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 15:26:29 -0400
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Hmmm, after having discussed this with you off the list, and been thinkin=
g
about it, I think it is time to take off *ALL* TSR's and then try the
programs again. I know what my DUMP program is doing to the last detail a=
nd
since even *that* cannot run, then something is wrong.

I remember the TSR craze from the late 80ies which ended abruptly as most=

people - including myself - dropped all TSR's because of problems here an=
d
there. Today I only run my own TSR's (well, some has to run them!).

It does not sound like a virus but it would not hurt to check that anyway=

(check the desktop as that one would probably also have been hit) =


Jorgen
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 15:22:02 -0500
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From:         Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: DOS Problems

I was thinking along the same lines so I completely reset my 200.  The
absolute minimum is now there.  I even commented out the LapLink Server.
The results have been the same.

The virus issue also occurred to me so I used the latest version of
McAfee on my desktop to do a scan.  Nothing turned up.  I'm also getting
my software from what I'd call pretty safe sources (though one never
knows).

Another list member mentioned that I might not be giving it enough time.
That makes sense but I've let the thing work on the problems for up to 30
minutes with no effect.  It surely doesn't take 30 minutes to load a 3K
editor (TED) or do a hex dump on a 1K program.  This also is inconsistent
with my PGP experiences.  I've used the palmtop to generate a 1024 bit
key once (BIG job) and it took close to an hour; it is inconcievable that
a program with the memory demands of PGP would only be a little slower
than a tiny 3K program.

It really has me stumped and irritated.

Larry Zimmerman

PS - I wasn't "jumping over your head" in taking my problems to the list
Jorgen but it is obvious that your program isn't the problem (as you've
said to me privately).

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 20:31:32 GMT
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On Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:24:05 EDT, Larry Zimmerman wrote:

>I first noticed the problem when I tried to find a hexdump utility to
>work on the machine.  I tried six different utilities whose specs
>indicated the 200lx could run them; half of those are run by other list
>members on their palmtops.  Yesterday, I tried TV.COM (tiny text
>viewer) and TED.COM (tiny editor).  I also tried Neil's new prc-to-text
>converter.  The response I get from my machine when I try running any of
>these is one of the following:

You panicked me mentioning my little baby :-)

I was going to ask if you are trying to run these apps from a DOS session
under the program manager, or have you closed the program manager?  But I
just checked and it work fine even in the small DOS box you get from the =
C:
icon in program manager.

Other than some driver in your config.sys or autoexec.bat having gone
screwy, I can't think of anything.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 21:40:36 GMT
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I just visited http://www.memoware.com where there are loads more
interesting etext files, mostly in prc format - I wonder how we can read
those? :-)

I'm going to look at their database format as well - there are some
interesting looking files.

--=20
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 18:13:31 EDT
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In a message dated 08/27/98 10:27:58 AM Central Daylight Time,
Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM writes:
> GETARG=1 "Which input file?"
>  GETARG=2 "Which output file?"
>  D:\BIN\XINE.COM arg1 arg2
>
>  So. Who has such a utility as my mythical GETARG.COM?
>
this is what you are looking for --stolen from the DOS program -- printscreen
follows:
---------- snip
CHOICE /C:choices /N /S /T:c,nn text

/C:choices Specifies allowable keys. Default is YN
/N           Do not display choices and ? at end of prompt string.
/S           Treat choice keys as case sensitive.
/T:c,nn    Default choice to c after nn seconds
text         Prompt string to display

ERRORLEVEL is set to offset of key user presses in choices.
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 18:47:12 EDT
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Absolutely no idea.  I ran it for over a year with no problem.  I'm not using
it right now, because I don't need the space (32 meg T2T mod) but I can assure
you that it works & is completely transparent, if set up correctly.

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 15:48:56 -0700
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Subject:      Re: the mythical "GETARG.COM"
Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM

 > Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM writes:
 > > GETARG=1 "Which input file?"
 > >  GETARG=2 "Which output file?"
 > >  D:\BIN\XINE.COM arg1 arg2
 > >
 > >  So. Who has such a utility as my mythical GETARG.COM?


        Try ASKENV.EXE. You can find it in

                http://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/tsbat56.zip

whay.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:26:10 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> On Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:24:05 EDT, Larry Zimmerman wrote:
>
> >I first noticed the problem when I tried to find a hexdump utility to
> >work on the machine.  I tried six different utilities whose specs
> >indicated the 200lx could run them; half of those are run by other list
> >members on their palmtops.  Yesterday, I tried TV.COM (tiny text
> >viewer) and TED.COM (tiny editor).  I also tried Neil's new prc-to-text
> >converter.  The response I get from my machine when I try running any of
> >these is one of the following:
>

What are the chances you have set up one of the odd ball video modes or
graphic modes so that things are loading invisibly or bombing in the
wrong mode?

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1998 21:28:18 -0400
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              Larry Feldman <lfeldman@VOICENET.COM>
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On Fri, 28 Aug 1998 18:47:12 EDT, Cavendishl@AOL.COM wrote:

> Absolutely no idea.  I ran it for over a year with no problem.  I'm not =
using
> it right now, because I don't need the space (32 meg T2T mod) but I can =
assure
> you that it works & is completely transparent, if set up correctly.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Lynn M. Cavendish


Agreed. I've been using an "Off the shelf" copy of Stacker 4 on my Ace
10MB flashcard for several years. I found the compression far superior
to the Ace supplied Stacker 3.0. Perhaps far more importantly, I find
that the actual drive structure is far more robust, and that disk
errors are repaired far easier with 4, than with 3.

Larry

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:30:49 -0400
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This isn't exactly on-thread, but there's a great old Chas. Adams =
cartoon of two inventors sitting in the waiting room at the Patent =
Office.  One has a large bolt in his lap, the other has a matching large =
nut in his.  The inventors are eyeing each other nervously.

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Subject:        Re: Sliced Bread/Newton SRAM Card

Guy walks into the patent office.

He demonstrates the blades of his new invention on a loaf to the patent
examiner, to form neat, regular slices.

The examiner is very impressed. Excited, he exclaims, "That's the best
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draft beer?

Guy walks into the patent office.

The examiner is very impressed. Excited, he exclaims, "That's the best
thing since ... since ... "

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I thought this debate was settled in the marketplace a dozen or more =
years ago.  In business,  programmers use C.  No flames please.  Let's =
get back to our LX's.

I have to agree here.

Pascal also makes a *lot* more sense than C; more internally consistent,
the implementation details are properly hidden, and it does sensible
things to save you grief - like array bounds checking!

But for maximum-performance, C and then assembler are the way to go.

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Does anyone here know where I can get the Windows CE 2.0 upgrade ROM for
the 320lx cheaper than the $130.00 HP wants?

This one is has the Hitachi SH-3 44 MHz processor.

Thanks in advance,

SMoo

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In message  <01BDD2CD.2261B800@jtkrist.clark.net>, jtkrist@CLARK.NET said:
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> I thought this debate was settled in the marketplace a dozen or more =
> years ago.  In business,  programmers use C.  No flames please.  Let's =
> get back to our LX's.
>
> I have to agree here.
>
> Pascal also makes a *lot* more sense than C; more internally consistent,
> the implementation details are properly hidden, and it does sensible
> things to save you grief - like array bounds checking!
>
> But for maximum-performance, C and then assembler are the way to go.
>
> --
> Brendan.Macmillan@fcit.monash.edu.au      =
> http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
> Voice + 61 03  9905 5194      AUSTRALIA      Thesis: internet =
> impersonation
>

Say what ever happened to ecommerce:)?

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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1998 14:07:34 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Subject:      Re: Turbo Basic
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> >From:    "Liam M. Early" <danaan@IINET.NET.AU>
>
> >    Can anyone see a problem programming with
> >    Turbo Basic on the HP ?.
>
> Do an AltaVista search on "The International
> Obfuscated C Code Contest".  I don't think
> even Borland allows BASIC code that approaches
> things I've seen in that contest.  <grin>

The example was to do with a for loop and a switch
statement partially overlapping. Kindof like (  { ) }.
Which you shouldn't really be able to do, but you
can, it compiles and it works.
The author says:
        "I think this code makes a very strong
        argument in the for/against C debate;
        but I'm not sure for which side."

--
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Subject:      Re: Windows CE 2.0 upgrade ROM

In message  <35E770A2.BEF16208@texas.net>, sgoggin@TEXAS.NET said:
> Does anyone here know where I can get the Windows CE 2.0 upgrade ROM for
> the 320lx cheaper than the $130.00 HP wants?
>
> This one is has the Hitachi SH-3 44 MHz processor.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> SMoo

Sure just call Thaddeus and ask for a 32 or 64 megabyte 200LX. That way
you won't have to worry about ugrading your ROM.


Regards

-John

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>    >Here's how I Zip up my C: drive...
>    >PKZIP -ex -Pr -x*.exe a:\work\cbackup.zip c:\*.*
>    >I exclude all *.EXE files so the zip won't be so big.  The idea is
>    >I can restore executables from another source if needed.
>
> This is true. However, maybe it's my bad luck, but my c: drive usually
> craps out at the worst time and I'm usually not in the mood nor position
> to dig up spare executables.
>
> My aim was to make the restore as automatic as possible to get going again
> in the shortest time. Backing up the executables was a necessary evil in
> order to get there. YMMV.


I also have given this issue some thought.  My 32M 200LX has about
10M of files on it and is backed up on my desktop's 60M hard drive.
The desktop has only about 20M open so I also do not back up most
of the LX program stuff.  Of course most of the DOS software on my
palmtop was essentially just transferred from my desktop to begin
with--it wouldn't take much effort to do so again.

Ted

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Subject:      Re: Windows CE 2.0 upgrade ROM
Comments: To: btorbik@earthlink.net

Hey _Bernie_, you crappy CE user get a real computer, (you started
it after all, man are you stupid)


In message <199808290430.VAA18063@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, btorbik@earthlink.net said:
> John:
>
> Is bliss ignorance, or is ignorance bliss?? As to the gentleman's question, the upgrade should be readily available

Aren't you _just_ _so_ big and bad- did your mommy write that for you?
Face it, WinCE is just plain junk, just junk. Nobody would be buying
it except for the fact Microsoft probably had to pay companies to
take it. Face it you own junk and it always will be junk.
I'm not going to argue with you, it would be like me comparing
my BMW with your Toyota. Kind of foolish. So...

> from a number of sources on comp.sys.palmtops or comp.sys.handhelds .

I'm sure he'll apprieciate that. He probably just came from there.
Shoot by now I'd have burned my own ROM with something, anything
else instead of that crappy WinCE.

>
> Bernie Torbik
> http://www.shoresystems.net
>
> ----Original Message-----
>    >From:     John Musielewicz <musi0009@tc.umn.edu>
>    >To:               HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>    >Subject:          Re: Windows CE 2.0 upgrade ROM
>    >Reply-To:         Jm Musielewicz <musi0009@tc.umn.edu>
>    >Date:     Friday, 28 August, 1998 20:03
>    >
>    >In message  <35E770A2.BEF16208@texas.net>, sgoggin@TEXAS.NET said:
>    >> Does anyone here know where I can get the Windows CE 2.0 upgrade ROM for
>    >> the 320lx cheaper than the $130.00 HP wants?
>    >>
>    >> This one is has the Hitachi SH-3 44 MHz processor.
>    >>
>    >> Thanks in advance,
>    >>
>    >> SMoo
>    >
>    >Sure just call Thaddeus and ask for a 32 or 64 megabyte 200LX. That way
>    >you won't have to worry about ugrading your ROM.

Seems like good advice to me!

Regards

-John

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Subject:      FS: or trade EXP 33.6/8Meg

For sale or trade a Exp thinfax 33.6 fax.modem with 8 megs flash memory.
The card also has built in Minifax exm program for HP200lx palmtops.

Make offer.

Would like large compact flash card, other offers considered.

Please reply via private email.

-Tim
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tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments)
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1998 05:36:52 GMT
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Comments: To: btorbik@earthlink.net

Sorry _Bernie_

Post all you want- I don't read junk mail.


Regards

-John

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Just a thought, but doesn't NT provides a hardware abstraction layer to
control the =

use of hardware peripherals on the PC. Cpack Filer uses the serial port -=
 a
hardware =

resource, so is it possible that NT is blocking access to the serial port=

for CPack
Filer?

Question is why did it ever work if this is the cause, unfortunately I am=

not an NT
guru so do not know if such thing are configurable, but someone else may
have
more info.

Laurence Harvey.

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> >I first noticed the problem when I tried to find a hexdump utility to
> >work on the machine.  I tried six different utilities whose specs
> >indicated the 200lx could run them; half of those are run by other lis=
t
> >members on their palmtops.  Yesterday, I tried TV.COM (tiny text
> >viewer) and TED.COM (tiny editor).  I also tried Neil's new prc-to-tex=
t
> >converter.  The response I get from my machine when I try running any =
of
> >these is one of the following:
>
>
>What are the chances you have set up one of the odd ball video modes or
>graphic modes so that things are loading invisibly or bombing in the
>wrong mode?

That was my first thought, too. However when redirecting the output from
my hexdump program to a file, it ends up as ONE byte though my program
ALWAYS sends at least TWO bytes (a carriage return and a linefeed).
We have also checked that my DUMP program was the only one on the
machine.

The only sensible explanation I can give is that aliens or demons have
stolen the soul of the program.

Jorgen


  =

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>We won't mention the bizarrely illogical statement terminators :-)

Actually, Pascal has the *logical* way of terminating statements:

Pascal:  if xxx then this else that;
C:       if xxx then this; else that;

>the implementation details are properly hidden

I would agree that it is easier to get proper information hiding and
data abstration in Turbo Pascal as TP is object-oriented.
C is just as good as that but it is far more difficult.

The main problem in C is the badly thought out operator precedence and
its highly dangerous macro language. Its weak typing is both a curse and
a blessing, allowing you to uplift a string to the power of three if you
were mad enough to do so.

Jorgen (the other one) wrote:
>I don't agree. I have no idea about those pointers- on the other hand I
>=3D do not call myself programmer. But the fact is that I don't think C =
is
>that difficult. I have been able to put together HP Alarm Clock which is=

>an =3D EXM program and this without being an expert in C. Ok, there are
>plenty of =3D things I don't know, but my program works....

Yes, talented people can take a piece of source and make changes /
implement it without knowing much about pointers. But you are mostly
limited to that. It was with good reason we used to teach Pascal (or
Modula-2) to computer science students before we taught them C. It
made better programmers than those getting a degree today.

I think I know what I am talking about. I learned programming HP
programmable calculators (70ies - ah, those were the days), Basic,
PolyPascal which was sold to Borland and became Turbo Pascal and C
(early to mid-80ies) by myself but later took a degree in computer
science for the fun of it. I have never regretted the time spent on
that.

Then again, not having any formal education in computer science, did not
seem to hurt Steve Wosniak or Bill Gates in their efforts.

Jorgen

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Sorry to bother the list, but I've subscribed to the palmtop.com
service and have learned that with cc:Mail I have no way of telling
who e-mails are from unless they have a "Reply To;" header set, or
include a name and address within the message text.

Thanks for your indulgence.

Ted

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Now we're getting to some answers that make sense!  This is what I've
suspected from the begining.

Does Thadeus or Shier or Torbik offer any palmtop exorcism services?  The
local clergy have all moved to solving Windows demons (more work/more
money).

Larry Zimmerman


On the video question though, the answer is, "no".  Nothing oddball at
all.

On Sat, 29 Aug 1998 06:19:06 -0400 Jorgen Dybdahl
<JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM> writes:
>
>The only sensible explanation I can give is that aliens or demons have
>stolen the soul of the program.
>
>Jorgen
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Laurence:

> Just a thought, but doesn't NT provides a hardware abstraction layer to
> control the
> use of hardware peripherals on the PC. Cpack Filer uses the serial port - a
> hardware
> resource, so is it possible that NT is blocking access to the serial port
> for CPack
> Filer?

You're right about the hardware abstraction layer.  NT emulates the DOS BIOS
calls and hardware environment for older software.  It isn't as fast as DOS
but it works mostly.  As a test, I tried Procomm (DOS) in a DOS box and was
able to communicate with my 200LX over the same serial port.  In fact, that's
how I transferred some files that I needed to access.  So it doesn't appear
that NT has hosed or overtaken the serial port.

> Question is why did it ever work if this is the cause, unfortunately I am
> not an NT
> guru so do not know if such thing are configurable, but someone else may
> have more info.

Good question.  I've been wondering this myself for two days.

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Question: is anyone aware of a list similar to this one, but dealing
with dBase for dos programming?

I could not find anyhting in Liszt. And in newsgroups, there is
activity related to Visual dBase only, and that is a completely
different thing.

Mikhail

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Larry
See this?

Agreed. I've been using an "Off the shelf" copy of Stacker 4 on my Ace
10MB flashcard for several years. I found the compression far superior
to the Ace supplied Stacker 3.0. Perhaps far more importantly, I find
that the actual drive structure is far more robust, and that disk
errors are repaired far easier with 4, than with 3.

Watcha think?

yor pal al

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              Gerhard Behrens <100407.3542@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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<What would be handy is a DOS utility for batch files that
pauses for filenames and other arguments, then passes them
onto the program. For example, if such a utility was
named GETARG.COM, you could then write a batch file
(named RUNXINE.BAT or something) like this:
 GETARG=1 "Which input file?"
 GETARG=2 "Which output file?">

In fact, there is a DOS-utility by Andreas Garzotto which
lets you highlight the file in Filer, press ENTER, add the
output file only and - everything is done! It is
PNS200.EXE which you have to integrate into your FILER.INI
instead of XINE.COM. Example (assuming PNS200.EXE is in
directory C:\TOOLs)::

 *.DOC=c:\tools\pns200.exe %s
 *.TXT=c:\tools\pns200.exe %s
 ".EXE=c:\tools\pns200.exe %s
 etc.

After that you create a file PNS200.INI in C:_DAT in which
you reference all the file types you may which to compress
as follows:

 *.DOC=d:\bin\xine.com %s %s
 *.TXT=d:\bin\xine.com %s %s
 *.EXE=d:\bin\xine.com %s %s
 etc.

The first parameter %s here is already referenced by
highlighting and Enter-key in filer and you will be
prompted to add only the second parameter %s, i.e. the name
of the outfile. If you use a distinctive extension for
any compressed file (eg *.XIN) you can decompress the
*.XIN-files the same way: add them in FILER.INI and
PNS200.INI just as shown above. The second parameter (the
ONLY one you have to add after the prompt) is then the
name of the decompressed file.

All this may sound rather cryptic but just get PNS200.EXE
in its archived form PNS200.ZIP (freeware) from the
S.U.P.E.R. website (http://www.palmtop.net/super.html)-
and read its documentation. I use the combo FILER.INI and
PNS200.INI for practically all file operations (viewing,
unzipping, reading, executing) by highlighting the file in
Filer and pressing Enter. Its swift, easy and works
flawlessly.

Gerhard

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Hi Partick,

I have no idea, unless it has to do with removable drives.  It
does work, though I couldn't get it to load automatically (not
that it can't be done, I just didn't fool with it), had
to use the 'stacker anywhere' program.

> Folks,
>
> Any idea why the readme on stacker says it WON't work with pcmcia =
drives?
>
>

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> Just a curiosity about the licensing thing.
> Since in my original Turbo C++ 1.0 packaging they gave me 2 sets of
> disks (3.5 and 5.25), doesn't that technically give me two copies of
> software?

You may have two copies of the software. But you do not *own* the
software. You *own* 1 (one) license to *use* the software....

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In a message dated 98-08-28 23:21:05 EDT, you write:

<< Does anyone here know where I can get the Windows CE 2.0 upgrade ROM for
 the 320lx  >>

This question reminds me of George Bernard Shaw's reciept for cucumbers:

    1.  Slice them very thin.
    2.  Sautee them in purified butter.
    3.  Throw them out as good for nothing.

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Thanks to everyone who shot me down for trying to get some information.

Don't bother replying to this, as I will be off the mailing list by the
time you see it.

Thanks again

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On Sat, 29 Aug 1998 10:55:20 EDT, Al Chin <Hobchi@AOL.COM> wrote:

> Larry
> See this?

Yes ..... not sure what you mean. I wrote the following.

Sorry, I'm confused.

:)

Larry

>
> Agreed. I've been using an "Off the shelf" copy of Stacker 4 on my Ace
> 10MB flashcard for several years. I found the compression far superior
> to the Ace supplied Stacker 3.0. Perhaps far more importantly, I find
> that the actual drive structure is far more robust, and that disk
> errors are repaired far easier with 4, than with 3.
>
> Watcha think?
>
> yor pal al
>

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Can anyone tell me if the 200LX is affected.
Will it make our 200LXs worthless in 500 days?
I understand that the BIOS could not be altered.
Will the WinCE palmtops be similarly afflicted in 500 days?
<These questions are intended to be provocative mischievous and
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1998 14:06:52 -0700
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On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Duncan Kellie wrote:

> Can anyone tell me if the 200LX is affected.
> Will it make our 200LXs worthless in 500 days?
> I understand that the BIOS could not be altered.
> Will the WinCE palmtops be similarly afflicted in 500 days?
> <These questions are intended to be provocative mischievous and
> malicious>

The 200LX is not really affected by the year 2000.  It knows that there is
a February 29, 2000 and pretty much all of the built-in software is
compliant.  There have been some questions raised lately about cc:Mail,
though.

There are programs that run on the 200LX, however, which have trouble.
For example, Microsoft Word 5.0 has trouble with files dated after 1999.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1998 17:39:28 -0400
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At 06:32 PM 8/24/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Will give it a try thanks. One more question though, can I only
communicate with
>people who are also using Voice or can I communicate with someone else who
is using
>MIRC.
>Thanks
>Tony

To answer your question, of course you can.  It's rougly analogous to
email: you can get email in Eudora from anyone who sends something to you,
from any other client.  Different clients offer different features, but all
perform the same basic task.  However, there are different relay networks
you can connect to.  I'd go for EFNet, using irc.blackened.com,
irc.ais.net, or irc.emory.edu.

Having said all clients are the same, is anyone feeling up to porting
BitchX to DOS?  :)

Oh, and one more thing.  My personal wish is to have someone organize an
#hp200 channel.  #hp48 has been around for years, and has remained a
wonderful place to be.  If we could do the same thing for the 200, we might
just buy it an extra year or two.


Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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Larry Zimmerman?
Is there another?
Sorry 'bout that.

That Stacker 4.0 is great for LX
too.  Want yor pgm back for yor
LX?

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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I saw that endorsement for Stacker 4.0.  I'm content with letting it pass
on to a
power-user.  Since cleaning my system in an attempt to get Jorgen's and
Neil's
programs working, I've cleaned another 2M off my machine.  I now have 4M
free on C: and A: -- not alot, but enough.

Larry Zimmerman

On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 16:01:02 -0500 al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM> writes:
>Larry Zimmerman?
>Is there another?
>Sorry 'bout that.
>
>That Stacker 4.0 is great for LX
>too.  Want yor pgm back for yor
>LX?
>
>Semper Mobilis,
>yor pal al :) .............
>

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How do I send SMS with the Nokia Datacard?  I have a model DTP-8.

I understand there is a command to do this in datacom.

Thanks

-Tim

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does anyone know the pinout for the Nokia phone connections on the
700LX? Where to get matching connectors? which other if any phones match
the connector on the 700LX?

And most important, can the built in modem be used for regular AMPS
connections with a standard phone at 9600?
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Start quote:

"I just picked up a new LEGO MindStorms robot the other day, and the
first thing I did was to try and figure out how to control it from my
palmtop.

It turns out there is very good software available that lets you do
this.

http://www.magicnet.net/~twdow/mindstorms.html

Tom"

What are merry band of followers the HP has, I'm never ceased of
amazement of the work and support that goes into this device.....
perhaps that why I bought one instead of a Pilot or PalmPC......
mind you I had a Pilot professional in my hands for the first
time yesterday......they are pretty sexy.....oh....oh.....I've
blashphemed........I suppose I can look forward to the following
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> its highly dangerous macro language.
I think "highly dangerous" sums up C pretty well!

> Then again, not having any formal education in computer science, did not
> seem to hurt Steve Wosniak or Bill Gates in their efforts.
I thought Bill Gates completed a year (or two) of a comp sci degree,
before wimping out to become a millionaire etc.


Brendan
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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 15:22:50 +1000
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> << Does anyone here know where I can get the Windows CE 2.0 upgrade ROM for
>  the 320lx  >>
>
> This question reminds me of George Bernard Shaw's reciept for cucumbers:
>
>     1.  Slice them very thin.
>     2.  Sautee them in purified butter.
>     3.  Throw them out as good for nothing.

heh heh heh I think this is very, very funny; but not very fair to the
poor guy.  It's not like he claimed WinCE was +better+ or anything.

Still, I can talk.

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        A file that big?
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Hmmmmmmmmm, truly sad.  There is room for expression for all points of
view.
What's next?  Windows book burnings?





sgoggin <sgoggin@TEXAS.NET> on 08/29/98 03:23:13 PM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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Subject:  Thanks




Thanks to everyone who shot me down for trying to get some information.

Don't bother replying to this, as I will be off the mailing list by the
time you see it.

Thanks again

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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:47:47 -0500
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Larry
Just thought I'd ask.
If you need it, let me know.

Semper Mobilis,
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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 12:35:34 +0000
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A while ago I asked about how to make grabbed URLs more explicit in
POSTLX and WWWLX. The adivce was that nothing short of manually editing
the resultant file will work. You have to remember to do it, and also
remeber what that URL was about.

I always strive to reduce the number of steps in any task and so was
able to slightly ease the discomfort by doing the following. I wrote a
small batch file HOT.bat consisting of only two lines:

pe HV.HOT
exit

As soon as I add an URL from a post message, I open a DOS box (Ctrl-X)
and run my HOT.BAT, edit the first line of the added URL (always at the
bottom of the list), and when I exit from PE, I'm back in POST.

Maybe a future version of POSTLX will one day allow chosing a name for an =
added
URL... (But this is admittedly not the biggest problem facing our world
at this time.)

Now, I'd be very interested in hearing how others have customized their
POST operation. There's always room for improvement...

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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:20:44 +0800
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Hi There,

I am using BGFAX and it works great with my PCMCIA modem. However, now I
am using a modified PalmPilot modem connected to COM1. So I would like to
use this solution when I am faxing, but the PalmPilot modem will not work
with BGFAX. I have heard that the PalmPilot modem can't fax AND I have
heard it can. I guess it can since they have fax programs for PalmPilot.

Any idea what I should do?

Thanks,

Jorgen

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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1998 06:56:47 -0500
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Brenda
I think you hurt his feelings.
He wasn't on the list long enough
to know our sarcasm.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:40:14 -0400
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Subject:      HEWLETT PACKARD 600C

Hello Everyone,

The 200lx is gone but i still have the 600c
sitting in a lovely carrying case.

Included with the 600c is a 28K modem PCMICA card.

The 600c has been unused for about a six months and the
NICAD battery is not in great shape!!

Now about making me a offer.  Or make me a trade offer!!!


Pete Bandilli EE/CNE
Kleen Bytes (The computer Kleeners)



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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:35:33 -0500
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C can be very terse, and if you intent is to befuddle the
uninitiated, it is a good choice. Curly { braces } are
not more confusing than  begin ...  end, and most any
programmers editor will find the matching pairs for you.
And you have the largest choice in software developement
kit.

MS Visual C++ with MFC is a whole different story. Forty
character variable names (mixed upper and lower case) and
thousands of built in functions to "help" you. Of course,
once you "master" it, $100,000 a year doesn't seem an
unreasonable salary.


Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > its highly dangerous macro language.
> I think "highly dangerous" sums up C pretty well!
>
> > Then again, not having any formal education in computer science, did not
> > seem to hurt Steve Wosniak or Bill Gates in their efforts.
> I thought Bill Gates completed a year (or two) of a comp sci degree,
> before wimping out to become a millionaire etc.
>
> Brendan
> PS I think the quotation levels were misleading in the post I'm replying to.
> --
> Brendan.Macmillan@fcit.monash.edu.au      http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
> Voice + 61 03  9905 5194  AUSTRALIA  Thesis: Electronic Commerce Impersonation
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>         It might have been very useful.
>         But now it is gone.                 - Haiku error message
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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 15:57:28 +0000
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              Mikhail Epelbaum <mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET>
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Let us not get too soft-hearted and guilty about proper resoponses to
one guy's stupid &/or provocative behaviour. Maybe unlikely he will
pause now before submitting that "How to upgrade to Windows 98"
question to the Macintosh list.

> Brenda
> I think you hurt his feelings.
> He wasn't on the list long enough
> to know our sarcasm.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:43:30 -0700
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Mikhail Epelbaum wrote:
>
> Let us not get too soft-hearted and guilty about proper resoponses to
> one guy's stupid &/or provocative behaviour. Maybe unlikely he will
> pause now before submitting that "How to upgrade to Windows 98"
> question to the Macintosh list.

What a bunch of jerks.  The guy asked about an HP palmtop on an HP
palmtop list and all he gets is crap.  It is ==>not<== as if he asked on
a mac list.  I have two 200LX's (one double speed 8meg) and a 320LX.
And I know that I am not alone in that regard.  So it isn't "them
against us."  Frankly, I would like to have seen a reasonable answer to
his question -- and if I had the answer, would have provided it to him.

As the man said, can't we just be nice to each other?

David, and don't bother flaming or emailing -- my mind is made up.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:22:13 +0200
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              TorEspen Sneltvedt <datac@ONLINE.NO>
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Subject:      Ram cards ?
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Anyone have ramcards for sale??
I'm interested in everything!!

Give me a mail

spam_datac@online.n
remove the spam_ infront of the email address

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Anyone have ramcards for =
sale??</FONT></DIV>
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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:22:59 -0400
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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>
> On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 07:26:09 -0400, Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSER=
V
> E.COM> wrote:
>
> > I have an old AutoSketch 3 version (little brother of AutoCAD) which =
fi
> ts
>
> > nicely onto my 32meg DS HP200LX.
> >
>
> > Since I have no mouse I need to know which keys of the HP200LX =
correspo
> nd
>
> > with cursor movements.
> >
>
> > Any input is welcome.
>
> Hi Hans,
>
> Have you tried the HP Mouse program thats available on the SUPER Site?
>
> HTH
>
> Regards,
>
> Qman...
>

Tried your recommendation without success. Would be greatfull for any =
additional hints.

I've found a little program that emulates a math coprocessor on SUPER =
Site as well. I will try to check that together with ACAD 10. This still =
needs a "mouse" as pointer ?! So I'm really in need of a "mouse".

In parallel I'm looking into PalDRAW - but I understand it can do only =
2-D sketching.

Hans Peter Staber
Salzburg  Austria

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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:23:03 -0400
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> From: Alain <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
> Subject:      Re: ACAD and the HP
> Comments: To: "Wellner, Harry SIOP-OGBH/7" <Harry.H.M.Wellner@OPC.SHELL.=
COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> In-Reply-To:  <c=3DNL%a=3D400NET%p=3DSHELL%l=3DHAGS0020-980819070633Z-15=
574@amss505. OPC.SHELL.COM>
>
> No, It's not a browser, It's ACAD.
> The version 2.6 and 10 can run on the LX.
> (the 10 need a coprocessor emulator)
> regards
> Al
> Wyn@alphalink.com.au
> Melbourne / Australia
>
Would you mind sharing your way to use ACAD 10 on your LX - what mouse/poi=
nter, what coprocessor, what ACAD.CFG etc ...

Hans Peter Staber
Salzburg  Austria

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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 11:35:51 -0700
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I found this old message, which seemed to get no reply, so I figure
I'll reply:

"Longden C. Loo"  wrote:
>
> A cry for help from the InfoSelect'ers (posted at c.s.p.)
>
> - Longden
>
> On 18 Jun 1998, DickCarr01 wrote:
> DickCarr01 <dickcarr01@aol.com>
>
> > Can anyone help in the settings to run this program from its icon.
I keep
> > getting "memory allocation error, Cannot start command.com" when
trying to run
> > the program from the a:drive.  Thanks.......

You have to reduce the programs memory requirements. Go to
Adjust/Room, then in Data Space you should reduce the memory to the
size of the biggest stack (for me that's 87; if you have anything
bigger try splitting into topics).  Then keep going to Window Buffer,
and reduce the memory to the size of the biggest window you'll be
using (for me that's 8000; anything bigger probably should be split).
All this works to make the program to require about 200k or so of
memory.

I hope this belated information helps someone.

Ddv

P.S.  I don't like the new way of getting the list, the old way seems
better.
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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 15:02:26 EDT
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Hi all;

Sunny sunday afternoon problem.

Does anyone know enough about CPACK to know
why the first ICON page don't come up in DOS on
the desktop?   My DOS is through W95 DOS prompt.
It always starts with the second FILER page.

enjoy sunny sunday,
yor pal al.........................

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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:16:02 -0400
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              Ron Beckley <rbeckley@SHORE.NET>
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David,

    Your email system is still a little slow.  It sent your message out 2
hours and 28 minutes before your deadline.  I've been out of town anyhow but
at least you tried.

Ron Becklley
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Date: Thursday, August 27, 1998 2:32 PM
Subject: Contest


>For all who are wondering... due to my e-mail being down for a good chunk
>of last week, I've extended the deadline to enter the contest until 5:00
>PM tomorrow, August 27.  (That's Pacific Daylight Time.)
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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 16:59:56 EDT
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Dear members of the HPLX-L list.

At least two members of your group have contacted me and indicated that a
statistical analysis software package that I wrote for use by students,
teachers and those involved in research will run on the HP Palmtop series.  I
believe it works on the 100/200 series but I'm not sure.

The programs are written to run under DOS or as a DOS window in windows.  I
know they run on 386 and 486 machines since they use less than 300 K of memory
to function.  They function very will on Pentium machines.

I don't know how many of you are interested by if you would like to see more
go to
http//members.aol.com/rcknodt/pubpage.htm
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/rcknodt/pubpage.htm">MODSTAT</A>
where the programs are described.  The web page is out-dated since the
software now does over 220 tests and routines.  A one-time registration fee
costs you $22.00US ($17.00 if you are a student).  That is about a dime a
routine.

To those who want a free two-month trial I can send you the programs as an e-
mail attachment.  Simply e-mail me your name and complete postal mailing
address.

As an additional offer, if you register the software during the two month
trial period I'll also send you a collection of finance and math routines (a
total of 42 routines) free of charge.  They also should run very well since
they to are DOS programs.

Thanks for taking the time to read this message.  If I can be of any help,
please do not hesitate to contact me.

Dr. Robert C. Knodt
7302 Kim Shelly Court
Mechanicsville, VA  23111
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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:22:12 PST
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              jebuford@CCGATE.HAC.COM
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     Stephen,

     I found it easier to change out the motherboard of the 200lx into my
     100lx case. The Keyboard changes slightly, but the keyboard mask from
     the 200 fits fine. I have new keyboard mask(from Mack at X2Tech) that
     I was planning to install(need to figure out what glue to use), but to
     tell the truth, I haven't needed it. I also like the black case and
     green/blue keys instead of purple.



     >Date:    Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:56:50 -0400
     >From:    Stephen Petty <swpetty@KIH.NET>
     >Subject: Screen Replacement

     >How do you replace the screen on the palmtop? I cannot seem to get
     >the case
     >apart. (what am I missing here?)
     >I broke my screen on my 200lx and would like to replace it with the
     >screen
     >on my 100lx.


     >Best Regards.

     >Terrorists like to brag they will die for their cause.
     >We can help.
     >The United States Marine Corps.

     BTW OOOOORah, Loved your tag line, as a former USMC I'd like to help
     them out Too!!!!!

     HP200lx DS/6Mb+48MbCF/100lx case w/cracked hinge(crazy glue=perm fix)

     Joe Buford:-{>}

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On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:43:30 -0700, David Rogers wrote:

>What a bunch of jerks.  The guy asked about an HP palmtop on an HP
>palmtop list and all he gets is crap.  It is =3D=3D>not<=3D=3D as if he =
asked on
>a mac list.  I have two 200LX's (one double speed 8meg) and a 320LX.
>And I know that I am not alone in that regard.  So it isn't "them
>against us."  Frankly, I would like to have seen a reasonable answer to
>his question -- and if I had the answer, would have provided it to him.

That's a bit unfair. This list was set up specifically to support
HP95/100/200 DOS based palmtop users. Maybe he was sent away a bit =
harshly,
but if he'd understood why the list exists he wouldn't have asked here in
the first place.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 17:37:48 -0400
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At 09:31 PM 8/30/98 GMT, you wrote:
>On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:43:30 -0700, David Rogers wrote:
>
>>What a bunch of jerks.  The guy asked about an HP palmtop on an HP
>>palmtop list and all he gets is crap.  It is ==>not<== as if he asked on
>>a mac list.  I have two 200LX's (one double speed 8meg) and a 320LX.
>>And I know that I am not alone in that regard.  So it isn't "them
>>against us."  Frankly, I would like to have seen a reasonable answer to
>>his question -- and if I had the answer, would have provided it to him.
>
>That's a bit unfair. This list was set up specifically to support
>HP95/100/200 DOS based palmtop users. Maybe he was sent away a bit harshly,
>but if he'd understood why the list exists he wouldn't have asked here in
>the first place.

He wasn't just sent away harshly.  He was immaturely ridiculed by someone
with little tact or restraint, and apparently, brains.  I am not referring
to you, but the posts from the person who did most of the flaming that I
read were really inappropriate.


R. James Scheffler
-and-
Srakkt-Hrairh
******************
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I hope my GBS reference didn't give undue offense.  If it did, I quite
appologize.  I expected the cucumber reference to indicate that it was a
matter of personal preference.  Some like 'em and some don't.  Certainly not a
value judgement on those who like cucumbers.

Oh well.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Subject:      wounded innocence

Hey guys;
Well, I guess every one has his say,
and maybe we wuz a bit harsh.  Then
again, this is not a just world.

What about the new kid in the
schoolyard or the new guy in the bar,
or O.J. getting away with murder?
OK, so maybe he didn't do it...
Its the way the mop flops.

Sometimes we gonna bite the dust for
saying the wrong thing at the wrong time.
The same question at another time may
not got have gotten him the same result.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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I would like to make an UPGRADE to My 2Meg 200LX to 8Meg.
I know it is impossible etc but I still want to do it.
Can anyone give me a part number for an 8Meg RAM chip?
Can anyone tell me the pinnout on the Hornet?

Thank you
Duncan...

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Hi All

Would anyone be willing to share Palmpilot experiences?  My wife has seen
them out there and wants to look into getting one.

Lists? Sources?  Things to look for in the product? Versions? Prices?

I'll stick with my trusty 200LX but she wants to go windows if possible

Thanks

Russell

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> Brenda
> I think you hurt his feelings. He wasn't on the list long enough to
> know our sarcasm.

(a) who is "Brenda"? Do you mean me, "Brendan"? The very idea of cutting
    off my 'n' makes me quite uncomfortable...

(b) hurt whose feelings? If you mean the original poster, I didn't
    flame him or use sarcasm - or even reply to the thread until after
    he signalled he was leaving.

(c) if you mean Lynn, I really did think the quote was very funny.
    I just feel sorry for the original poster.


OTOH, I think the name of the list - HPLX - may be misleading. And we
don't really have a FAQ to tell otherwise. And that imfamous photo
on SUPER may also confuse hopeful WinCE owners. I even seem to
remember something about the hp320lx being included in the list at
one point...

The original idea of the list was to support the whole line of HPLX's,
right? And then HP changed the line without changing the name;
confusion.  Now it seems pretty clear that members of the list see it
as supporting the DOS versions of the HPLX, and not WINCE <g>.

What to do? A name change to DOS-HPLX (or similar)? A big notice to
each new subscriber? But I think the problem comes so seldom that there
is no need to go to this trouble -- but just that we remember that
it is easy for a newcomer to make this mistake. We should be
gentle and understanding (and pity the poor owner in our hearts),
as we direct them elsewhere. We should not flame those less
fortunate than ourselves.

Of course, if they *then* say something in favour of WinCE over DOS ....
well, then OPEN SEASON!

--
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> And I know that I am not alone in that regard.  So it isn't "them
> against us."  Frankly, I would like to have seen a reasonable answer to
> his question -- and if I had the answer, would have provided it to him.
>
> As the man said, can't we just be nice to each other?
>

Ditto.  Thanks for speaking out against intellectual snobbery.

        Bob Pigford

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Russell Hemery wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> Would anyone be willing to share Palmpilot experiences?

I have a Palm Pilot Pro with modem, works fantastic, very fast, syncs
with tons of PIM software, mostly using 3rd party conduits. I got it
last August (1997) and since then have owned a Newton MP120, MP130,
MP2000, MP2100, eMate 300, Sharp SE-500, SHarp YO-370, Compaq C140 WinCE
2.0, Cassiopeia A-11 WInce 2.0 and an HP 620LX. (I like gadgets?)

Out of all the above the Palm Pilot is faster and more flexible than any
I have owned. If syncing with OUtlook, ACT, GOldmine or one of the other
more popular PIMS then the Pilot can't be beat. IT is simple to use but
not the swiftest for note taking although I am getting better at
Grafitti. I can thumb type my 200lx as fast as I can enter notes with
Grafitti though. It is very easy on batteries (like the 200lx).

What am I doing on this list you ask? I own an HP200LX and 700LX and
find them to be nearly as fast as the Pilot. If I could get my Pilot
address book into my 200LX I'd use it for a while as my main PDA.

I like the larger screen and flexibility of the 200LX series.

But, if my Libretto 50CT has the instant-on features and great battery
life of the pilot/200lx it would be the ideal PDA for me. Hope this
helps and if anybody knows how to get my Pilot addresses into the 200LX
I'd like to have that info.

tnx
--
73

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI

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Loved the cucumber reference......hate cucumbers!  I agree.....throw 'em
away!





"Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM> on 08/30/98 05:22:24 PM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please
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I hope my GBS reference didn't give undue offense.  If it did, I quite
appologize.  I expected the cucumber reference to indicate that it was a
matter of personal preference.  Some like 'em and some don't.  Certainly
not a
value judgement on those who like cucumbers.

Oh well.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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> On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:43:30 -0700, David Rogers wrote:
>
> >What a bunch of jerks.  The guy asked about an HP palmtop on an HP
> >palmtop list and all he gets is crap.  It is ==>not<== as if he
> asked on
> >a mac list.  I have two 200LX's (one double speed 8meg) and a 320LX.
> >And I know that I am not alone in that regard.  So it isn't "them
> >against us."  Frankly, I would like to have seen a reasonable answer to
> >his question -- and if I had the answer, would have provided it to him.
>
> That's a bit unfair. This list was set up specifically to support
> HP95/100/200 DOS based palmtop users. Maybe he was sent away a bit
> harshly,
> but if he'd understood why the list exists he wouldn't have asked here in
> the first place.
>


Well, I have to agree that the responses were definitely childish and
unfriendly.  The address is HPLX which does include units other than the
95/100/200.  He may have been steered here inadvertantly and the list
name does not clarify matters.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:17:48 -0400
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              John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
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Since there was an interest on having a circuit modeler on the palmtop I
thought I might post this. I found a eval version of Pspice 5 for dos.
Worked pretty well on a 1X HPLX if slow. Perfect if you want the same thing
on both the palmtop and desktop. Posted it to Mitch to put on the SUPER
site. The only thing is Microsim has changed hands and I can't get a manual
for it. Does anyone have the production version they might want to sell? or
know how to edit the component library? or have a manual they want to sell?
Thanks
Sent using a big clumsy PC.
Wish I was using my 200LX!!

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 02:09:10 +0000
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              Mikhail Epelbaum <mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET>
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I still think that the fellow deliberately tried to provoke the
membership of this list, and has achieved his goal. But I may be
wrong. The true meaning of this episode might remain one of the
unsolved mysteries of nature.

One thing is certain though: he has facilitated some expressed
emotions. His tenure here was brief, but he burned brightly.

Let's hope he fares better with the Mac crowd.

Mikhail

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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 19:30:43 -0700
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One of the things I missed switching from a paper calendar book
to the HP200LX was having a highly visible weekly compass form.
This is a roles & goals sheet based on Stephen Covey's books.
"Seven Habits for Highly Effective People" and "First Things First".

I did grab the database version someone had done but without it
Right out front, it was easy to ignore and forget.

So I ended up creating one of my own in a paint program and using
it as a topcard for my HP200LX.  I am sending a zip with some
samples to Mitch at the super site.


Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 19:37:27 -0700
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From:         Bernard Torbik <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
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UNSUBSCRIBE

I originally joined this list because its participants engaged in useful,
helpful, technical dialog. The pathetic remarks directed to someone's
legitimate question about an upgrade are all too typical of the general
tenor of this group in recent months.

It is sad to see that what had been an intelligent forum for technical
exchange was subverted by a technological parochialism that will ultimately
be its undoing.

Please change your mailing list name to WWW.LUDDITES.NET
It is far more appropriate.

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> On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:43:30 -0700, David Rogers wrote:
>
> >What a bunch of jerks.  The guy asked about an HP palmtop on an HP
> >palmtop list and all he gets is crap.  It is ==>not<== as if he
> asked on
> >a mac list.  I have two 200LX's (one double speed 8meg) and a 320LX.
> >And I know that I am not alone in that regard.  So it isn't "them
> >against us."  Frankly, I would like to have seen a reasonable answer to
> >his question -- and if I had the answer, would have provided it to him.
>
> That's a bit unfair. This list was set up specifically to support
> HP95/100/200 DOS based palmtop users. Maybe he was sent away a bit
> harshly,
> but if he'd understood why the list exists he wouldn't have asked here in
> the first place.
>


Well, I have to agree that the responses were definitely childish and
unfriendly.  The address is HPLX which does include units other than the
95/100/200.  He may have been steered here inadvertantly and the list
name does not clarify matters.

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Hi,
I was trying to track down a field data logging solution when I noticed =
my trusty palmtop on my desk.
What I have to do is read 4 analog inputs from a 4 band radiometer (red, =
green, blue and near infrared ) and feed them to some sort of data =
logger. I notice that PCMCIA A-D cards are available such as the DAQP-16 =
<http://www.omega.com/products/daqp16.html> but its power consumption is =
said to be 60mA typical/150mA max.=20
Have any of you had any experience with this type of card/application?
Thanks,
Peter Scarth
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<soapbox>
Because the world isn't fair is not an excuse for being impolite, when =
we have a choice.  If we don't set good examples we'll more quickly =
become overrun with the barbarians.  This is a mailing list in part to =
improve the level of discourse, no?  I hardly read news anymore.  I =
enjoy and respect all the people on this list.  Let's keep it a good =
neighborhood of cyberspace.
</soapbox>

-----Original Message-----
From:   al chin SMTP:hobchi@JUNO.COM
Sent:   Sunday, August 30, 1998 6:14 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        wounded innocence

Hey guys;
Well, I guess every one has his say,
and maybe we wuz a bit harsh.  Then
again, this is not a just world.

What about the new kid in the
schoolyard or the new guy in the bar,
or O.J. getting away with murder?
OK, so maybe he didn't do it...
Its the way the mop flops.

Sometimes we gonna bite the dust for
saying the wrong thing at the wrong time.
The same question at another time may
not got have gotten him the same result.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:19:41 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Windows CE 2.0 upgrade ROM - wounded innocence
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Neil Tungate mumbled something about ...
>
> On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:43:30 -0700, David Rogers wrote:
>
> >What a bunch of jerks.  The guy asked about an HP palmtop on an HP
> >palmtop list and all he gets is crap.  It is ==>not<== as if he asked on
> >a mac list.  I have two 200LX's (one double speed 8meg) and a 320LX.
> >And I know that I am not alone in that regard.  So it isn't "them
> >against us."  Frankly, I would like to have seen a reasonable answer to
> >his question -- and if I had the answer, would have provided it to him.
>
> That's a bit unfair. This list was set up specifically to support
> HP95/100/200 DOS based palmtop users. Maybe he was sent away a bit harshly,
> but if he'd understood why the list exists he wouldn't have asked here in
> the first place.

  That's not the point!  With a generic name like "HPLX" what did you
expect?  The poor guy was looking for help, and the response he got was
nothing short of juvenile.  A simple "look else where" would have been
sufficient, or have we lost all sense of civility?  Would you be able to
say the same thing to the guys face, in person?
  People aren't psychic email readers.  Many of us have at least look at
a WinCE upgrade at one point and might have gleamed some information that
just might be useful to someone else.  Heck, I bought a 620LX for my wife
because she's use to Windows already.
  Oh, and if you have any flamage to reply with, kindly do so *in private
email*!  No need to clutter the list with your insensitive remarks.
(Better yet, come to my house and say it to my face.  I guarantee I'll
have my baseball bat ready in rebuttal :-)

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:19:28 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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> Please change your mailing list name to WWW.LUDDITES.NET

Change the mailing list name to a web address...? Oh, I get it. We're
Luddites because we use DOS instead of the latest and greatest WinCE.
And we don't understand technology.

Honestly, I think the list should have been *a lot* more civil in
The Incident. But you address this rudeness with name-calling?

But I must confess: your name-calling hit home with me. Ouch.
For example, I've often thought that I would never have flown in a
Hydrogen-filled Zepplin.  No matter what the advertising. No Siree!
But that's me, resisting new technology, sticking to the old ways. Just
call me Lud. Ned Lud.


> I originally joined this list because its participants engaged in useful,
> helpful, technical dialog.

Recent threads on screen, commandline shells, languages, solar panels,
assemblers and data logging seemed useful, helpful and technical to me.
But that's just me.

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        A file that big?
        It might have been very useful.
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              John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
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At 09:19 PM 8/30/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Neil Tungate mumbled something about ...
>>
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:43:30 -0700, David Rogers wrote:
>>
>> >What a bunch of jerks.  The guy asked about an HP palmtop on an HP
>> >palmtop list and all he gets is crap.  It is ==>not<== as if he asked on
>> >a mac list.  I have two 200LX's (one double speed 8meg) and a 320LX.
>> >And I know that I am not alone in that regard.  So it isn't "them
>> >against us."  Frankly, I would like to have seen a reasonable answer to
>> >his question -- and if I had the answer, would have provided it to him.
>>
>> That's a bit unfair. This list was set up specifically to support
>> HP95/100/200 DOS based palmtop users. Maybe he was sent away a bit harshly,
>> but if he'd understood why the list exists he wouldn't have asked here in
>> the first place.
>
>  That's not the point!  With a generic name like "HPLX" what did you
>expect?  The poor guy was looking for help, and the response he got was
>nothing short of juvenile.  A simple "look else where" would have been
>sufficient, or have we lost all sense of civility?

I haven't been reading these posts so have lost track of the thread,
however, I assume you are talking about the fellow who wanted to upgrade
his ROM (I think with a better operating system- wasn't it, something like
GEOS??) I did respond to his post very civilly. It was only when some
namecaller called me ignorant that the responses got crude but then I
wasn't even commenting to the original poster any more. I think you'll find
that people on this list post very civilly 99% of the time! Of course if
people don't like the advice- well they asked for it!

>Would you be able to
>say the same thing to the guys face, in person?

Certainly!

>  People aren't psychic email readers.  Many of us have at least look at
>a WinCE upgrade at one point and might have gleamed some information that
>just might be useful to someone else.  Heck, I bought a 620LX for my wife
>because she's use to Windows already.

Well, I hope she's very happy with it. However, I would be really curious
to know where this idea came from that just because someone finds a product
somewhat useful that makes it something above being denigrated or
critizied. You should see the way people have looked at my 200LX and the
comments I've gotten- some of the were not nice at all. However this is the
way things are! People, sometimes, will critize things they don't like or
understand. (But I think you find people on this list understand Windows CE
very well).


Sent using a big clumsy PC.
Wish I was using my 200LX!!

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I was (again) sitting behind someone taking notes on a sub-notebook.
It was a Sony Pentium, very small and nice looking, and I was impressed.

Even more so when he quickly copied down a tree diagram in the Win95
word-processor. I began thinking: I can't do THAT on my hp200lx.

But A few minutes later, I was suprised to see his machine laboriously
rebooting. While he missed the lecture.

It just doesn't seem right, does it?

I'm still impressed, though.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:16:33 +10
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              Alain <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
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If you are looking for an HEX editor, try
ZIPZAP   Shareware
or
ZAPIT     Cardware
They are both
-working on the 200LX
-editing File and Disk
-...

Alain

> I first noticed the problem when I tried to find a hexdump utility to work
> on the machine.  I tried six different utilities whose specs indicated the
> 200lx could run them; half of those are run by other list members on their
> palmtops.  Yesterday, I tried TV.COM (tiny text viewer) and TED.COM
> (tiny editor).


Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 02:21:27 -0400
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>Since there was an interest on having a circuit modeler on the palmtop I=

>thought I might post this. I found a eval version of Pspice 5 for dos.
>Worked pretty well on a 1X HPLX if slow. Perfect if you want the same
thing
>on both the palmtop and desktop. Posted it to Mitch to put on the SUPER
>site. The only thing is Microsim has changed hands and I can't get a
manual
>for it. Does anyone have the production version they might want to sell?=

or
>know how to edit the component library? or have a manual they want to
sell?

I don't think there is a manual.
However there are plenty of hands-on books on PSPICE (many of them cover
the DOS version) with plenty of examples. Those I have seen expects you
to know nothing about the program (or for that matter about circuit
analysis).

I have Franz Monssen: PSpice with Circuit Analysis ISBN 0-675-21376-2

Alternatively if you already is an expert in circuit analysis: The
program is a (simplified) DOS version of SPICE, which is a research
project from Berkeley. They may have some documentation lying around.

Jorgen
Team Cucumber         (well, I only like them raw)

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:43:09 +0200
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I am not using the product  - only was interested for other purposes.

Sorry.

Harry Wellner, Gouda-Netherlands

>----------
>From:  Hans Peter StaberSMTP:hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
>Sent:  30 August 1998 20:23
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: <Autofrwd>Re: ACAD and the HP
>
>> From: Alain <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
>> Subject:      Re: ACAD and the HP
>> Comments: To: "Wellner, Harry SIOP-OGBH/7"
>><Harry.H.M.Wellner@OPC.SHELL.COM>
>> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>> In-Reply-To:
>><c=NL%a=400NET%p=SHELL%l=HAGS0020-980819070633Z-15574@amss505.
>>OPC.SHELL.COM>
>>
>> No, It's not a browser, It's ACAD.
>> The version 2.6 and 10 can run on the LX.
>> (the 10 need a coprocessor emulator)
>> regards
>> Al
>> Wyn@alphalink.com.au
>> Melbourne / Australia
>>
>Would you mind sharing your way to use ACAD 10 on your LX - what
>mouse/pointer, what coprocessor, what ACAD.CFG etc ...
>
>Hans Peter Staber
>Salzburg  Austria
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To those using CLKLX:

I have made a boo-boo in CLKLX which affects battery levels above 99%.
CLKB and CLKAPM are unchanged. A new set has been uploaded to Super today=

and I have sent a corrected set to those I know is using it.

My apologies - Must be getting old.

Jorgen
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 03:40:12 -0700
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On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:22:59 -0400, Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE=
.COM> wrote:


> Tried your recommendation without success. Would be greatfull for any =
additional hints.
>
> I've found a little program that emulates a math coprocessor on SUPER =
Site as well. I will try to check that together with ACAD 10. This still =
needs a "mouse" as pointer ?! So I'm really in need of a "mouse".
>
> In parallel I'm looking into PalDRAW - but I understand it can do only =
2-D sketching.
>
Hi Hans,

The only other recommendation that I have is to load mouse.com on your
HP get a null modem adapter and gender changer and use a serial mouse.

That what I some times use with Windows 3.0 and Wordperfect 5.1.

HTH


Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.1.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:06:07 +0200
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              Frans Veldman <veldman@KNOWARE.NL>
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At 10:44 AM 8/27/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Which is better, TASM or MASM? I have the latest version of MASM, but is
>TASM that much (if any) better?

TASM is definitely better. (Programming in assembly is my daily work; I
have written projects with millions lines of code, complete screen and menu
libraries, etc). For small programs, try A86. It is extremely fast, and the
compiler+debugger use less than 100Kb. A linker is not required.

Frans

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al chin wrote:
>
> Brenda
> I think you hurt his feelings.
> He wasn't on the list long enough
> to know our sarcasm.
>
> Semper Mobilis,
> yor pal al :) .............
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:58:37 -0500
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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... besides if the XTCE users become strong enough, HP et al.,
might want to bring back a "DOS also" machine.  I'd hate to think we
cut our noses off to spite our faces.  It might be in our best
interests to encourage XTCE/DOS users of the other palmtops.

On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, - - wrote:

snip...
> > That's a bit unfair. This list was set up specifically to support
> > HP95/100/200 DOS based palmtop users. Maybe he was sent away a bit
> > harshly,
> > but if he'd understood why the list exists he wouldn't have asked =
here in
> > the first place.
> >
>
> Well, I have to agree that the responses were definitely childish and
> unfriendly.  The address is HPLX which does include units other than =
the
> 95/100/200.  He may have been steered here inadvertantly and the list
> name does not clarify matters.
>

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Please don't let the few dictate how you feel about the many.
I've seen plenty of **LX users get flamed on
comp.sys.handhelds, etc., by CE users, but don't count you in
with those "few".  You have been very helpful to the DOS users
among us, with PCMCIA help and pricing, and I wish to commend
you.  Please reconsider.

Claud

On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Bernard Torbik wrote:

> UNSUBSCRIBE
>
> I originally joined this list because its participants engaged in =
useful,
> helpful, technical dialog. The pathetic remarks directed to someone's
> legitimate question about an upgrade are all too typical of the general
> tenor of this group in recent months.
>
> It is sad to see that what had been an intelligent forum for technical
> exchange was subverted by a technological parochialism that will =
ultimately
> be its undoing.
>
> Please change your mailing list name to WWW.LUDDITES.NET
> It is far more appropriate.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU On Behalf =
Of - -
> Sent:   30 August, 1998 19:10
> To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:        Re: Windows CE 2.0 upgrade ROM - wounded innocence
>
> > On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:43:30 -0700, David Rogers wrote:
> >
> > >What a bunch of jerks.  The guy asked about an HP palmtop on an HP
> > >palmtop list and all he gets is crap.  It is =3D=3D>not<=3D=3D as if =
he
> > asked on
> > >a mac list.  I have two 200LX's (one double speed 8meg) and a 320LX.
> > >And I know that I am not alone in that regard.  So it isn't "them
> > >against us."  Frankly, I would like to have seen a reasonable answer =
to
> > >his question -- and if I had the answer, would have provided it to =
him.
> >
> > That's a bit unfair. This list was set up specifically to support
> > HP95/100/200 DOS based palmtop users. Maybe he was sent away a bit
> > harshly,
> > but if he'd understood why the list exists he wouldn't have asked =
here in
> > the first place.
> >
>
> Well, I have to agree that the responses were definitely childish and
> unfriendly.  The address is HPLX which does include units other than =
the
> 95/100/200.  He may have been steered here inadvertantly and the list
> name does not clarify matters.
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Greetings All:


     Can we please drop this thread! It is serving no purpose at this
point...the damage has been done.

In the future, please direct WinCE users to www.windowsce.com(or other
source as applicable).

For the record: While the main intent of this LIST is discussion of the
DOS based HPLX series, the LIST header states "...HP-LX series
palmtop computers." There was some discussion among a few listmembers
early on, and the decision was to allow WinCE discussion unless it
began to predominate the LIST.

Thank You,

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              John Guenther <jguenthe@NAFIS.FP.TRW.COM>
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Hear Hear!!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn Behalf Of Al
> Kind
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 1998 10:05 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Windows CE 2.0 upgrade ROM
>
>
> Greetings All:
>
>
>      Can we please drop this thread! It is serving no purpose at this
> point...the damage has been done.
>
> In the future, please direct WinCE users to www.windowsce.com(or other
> source as applicable).
>
> For the record: While the main intent of this LIST is discussion of the
> DOS based HPLX series, the LIST header states "...HP-LX series
> palmtop computers." There was some discussion among a few listmembers
> early on, and the decision was to allow WinCE discussion unless it
> began to predominate the LIST.
>
> Thank You,
>
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> *                        |___/
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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1998 17:10:54 -0500
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              Eduardo Villa <evilla@DHL.COM.PE>
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From:         Eduardo Villa <evilla@DHL.COM.PE>
Subject:      Fax Program

Hi all:
        I am looking for a Fax software for my 8 MB 200LX. I
already have Acefax but would like to try something more
powerful, taking into account that I have room to spare in my
C: drive= Any suggestios? Maybe Bit Fax%


Eduardo Villa      Lima - PERU     HP 200 LX
E-mail: evilla@dhl.com.pe

Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.15) REGISTERED

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:39:15 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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Content-Type: text

Last week or so there was a post about Y2K and Leap Year.  As best as
my feeble mind can recall, year 2000 is *not* a leap year.  Yet the
appointment book and 123 seem to think it is.  I haven't checked the
BIOS to see if it thinks its a leap year or not.  Have I missed something
here?  To me, this would imply that something is *not* Y2K compliant if
it doesn't properly calculate leap years.  Please explain and/or set me
straight...

-Chris

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:55:44 -0400
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              "Richard S. Nowakowski" <rsn@UMDNJ.EDU>
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Subject:      chinese-english dictionary
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Anyone out there know of a chinese-english/english-chinese dictionary for
hp200? A cedict-based one would be great. (I use the jdict (edict) based
one for english-japanese and it's wonderful.) Looking for english and
pinyin input/ouput along with hanzi (character) and radical lookup
capabilities.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 07:56:25 -0500
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              al chin <hobchi@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      CE 2.0 - wounded innocence

Morning peter;

"or have we lost all sense of civility?

(Better yet, come to my house and say it
to my face.  I guarantee I'll have my
baseball bat ready in rebuttal :-)"

I wouldn't go to your house over a trvial
thing as this. If I did, a bat wouldn't do
you much good nor does it show much civility.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:59:23 -0400
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For whatever it is worth, Outlook98 certainly beleives 2000 is leep yeae,
Franklin/Covey day planners show 2000 as leap year, so 2000 must be leap
year.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn Behalf Of R.
> Christopher Lott
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 1998 10:39 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Leap Year / Y2K - Again?
>
>
> Last week or so there was a post about Y2K and Leap Year.  As best as
> my feeble mind can recall, year 2000 is *not* a leap year.  Yet the
> appointment book and 123 seem to think it is.  I haven't checked the
> BIOS to see if it thinks its a leap year or not.  Have I missed something
> here?  To me, this would imply that something is *not* Y2K compliant if
> it doesn't properly calculate leap years.  Please explain and/or set me
> straight...
>
> -Chris
>
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Richard
Have you tried Twin Bridge?

I don't think it'll fit into the
LX unless you get an early version.

I also have an early hardware bilinual
wordprocessor PCB for an XT or AT.
Don't know how to make it work
anymore. It may have had a dict. Free.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:19:35 -0700
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On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> Last week or so there was a post about Y2K and Leap Year.  As best as
> my feeble mind can recall, year 2000 is *not* a leap year.  Yet the
> appointment book and 123 seem to think it is.  I haven't checked the
> BIOS to see if it thinks its a leap year or not.  Have I missed something
> here?  To me, this would imply that something is *not* Y2K compliant if
> it doesn't properly calculate leap years.  Please explain and/or set me
> straight...

2000 _is_ a leap year.  The rule is: every four years we have a leap year,
EXCEPT in century years (i.e. 1700, 1800, 1900), UNLESS the century is
divisible by 400, in which case it IS a leap year.  So 1600 was a leap
year, but not 1700, 1800, or 1900, but 2000 will be one.  All of this
helps account for the fact that the time it takes the earth to go around
the sun is almost, but not quite exactly, 365.25 days.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:25:59 -0700
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Subject:      Re: HP Laserjet 2 programming
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Vivek,

 >   Does anyone know where I can obtain specs for HP laserjet 2 programmi=
ng
 > for the palmtop?  What sort of an interface is it and other details.

I have something for you. It has all the commands for a Pentax
people for the PocketJet printer which emulates LaserJet II.
Let me know if ok to send. Less than 20K.

  Avi M. D&A

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Al:

Not quite! See my reply to Patrick.

 > Patrick
 > In a message dated 98-08-28 09:50:54 EDT, you write:
 > >  Any idea why the readme on stacker says it WON't work with pcmcia =
drives?
 > >
 > Probably because they trying to tell yu it won't.
 > Only certain version do.  ACE is ver 3.0 and  it
 > do.  Some Ver 4.0 do but why use V4.0 if V3.0
 > works?  The LX HW is still the same.  Why use
 > up more memory to do the same job.  Besides
 > ACE was made specifically to work for the LX.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:25:39 -0700
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Subject:      Re: ANN: DOCHTML V 1.1 for the HP200LX
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Dear Vivek:

 >   I would like to announce the availability of DOCHTML v 1.1 utility =
for
 > the HPxxxLX palmtops.  This utility converts the inbuilt memo applicati=
on
 > documents into HTML files that can be published on the web.  The new
 > features in the current version include support for Internationalizatio=
n.

Excellent! I am pleased this is out now. Will you permit me to
place an entry on our Web page for this, and link to your URL?

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:26:11 -0700
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Brendan,

 > I have one about HV too:
 >
 > If you are viewing files in memory, can you get it to execute cgi
 > scripts etc?

It is the server of the Web document that executes the cgi
script, not HV.

 I guess it must +send+ the requests correctly when
 > viewing a site; but I suppose asking it to launch the program on
 > the hp200lx itself would amount to making the lx a web-server...

Huh? I am not clear what you ask. There is no way for a server
to ask HV to execute a program on the 200LX. Try Activex and
Java for that. This is outside HTML 3.2 specs. Or did I miss
your question?

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:26:24 -0700
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Patrick:

 > Any idea why the readme on stacker says it WON't work with pcmcia =
drives?

It works fine. What they probably refer to is that you cannot
place a partial volume on the card, i.e. say half of it
stacked and the other half unstacked. That cannot be done
because S4 sees the pcmcia card as a removable device (it is)
and allows you to stack the whole thing only.

Having reread this, it is technically incorrect: You can place
a stacked volume which takes only part of the card, but you
cannot _access_ both parts at the same time, i.e. copy from
the stacked part to the unstacked part etc.

There are ways to play with the pc card so it identifies
itself as a non-removable device, but this changes from card
to card, and I do not know how the 200LX will react.

  Avi M. D&A

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Subject:      Re: WWW-LX
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Harry:

 > Somebody willing to inform me how to get ride off the SMTP-headers in
 > messages ? Something to modify in POST.CFG ? I must admit that I have
 > fiddle around a little bit but not change something important. But
 > afterall ......

I believe Stan replied to you already. You cannot get rid of
the headers themselves, they are part of the message you
download. What you CAN do is choose to not display them. Try
Menu View Headers.

As to changing stuff: I guess you are on your own in terms of
deciding about "something important" :) ... My view is that if
you really feel you know what you are doing, great.
Otherwise, it is like a russian roulette: It may work now,
and maybe later, but then it it may fall apart on you. Without
very detailed knowledge about the items in the POST.CFG a
decision that some change is important or not important may
cause your file and setup damage. Good luck, you may need it
:)...

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:26:04 -0700
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Dejan,

 >   Does HV (HTML-viewer) handle FTP-requests? When I send a
 > request, my WWW/LX reads only 531 bytes from the server
 > and then stops till the time out is over. If HV does
 > handle FTP, I'd like to know:

HV handles file transfer, but not FTP. FTP is a completely
different protocol to transfer files (e.g. get them and send
them). Your problem is probably interference from SysMgr with
your COM port. Try running this outside SysMgr.

 > a) if I login as an anonymous user, how do I login? i.e.
 >    where do I write my username and the password?

It will prompt you.

 > b) if I use a username different than "anonymous", how do
 >    I login etc.?

Enter the login id when prompted.

 >   And one question about the POST/LX: when I download a
 > ZIP-file with WWW/LX, transfer speed is about 1300-1400
 > cps. The same thing done with POST/LX (even if it isn't an
 > archive, but plain text) shows the speed of no more than
 > 900cps.( I have a 14400 modem.) Is it normal for POST/LX
 > to be that much slower than HV, concerning the fact they
 > use the same communication program?

The protocols are totally different. The servers involved are
totally different. It makes no sense to compare. And in
addition: There are so many components involved in email (as
in other file transfers) so blaming Post/LX only is really
not logical. It could be a busy POP3 server, it could be a
busy SMTP server, it could be lots of other things.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:26:14 -0700
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Yes, that's one of the other Y2K bugs coming up that alot of people
aren't aware of - miscalculation of leap years.  I believe it goes
something like "Divisible by 4, but not by 100 *unless divisible by 400*"
It's that "unless.." part that gets overlooked and will cause some
programs to incorrectly think 2000 is not a leap year (which it is).


> For whatever it is worth, Outlook98 certainly beleives 2000 is leep yeae,
> Franklin/Covey day planners show 2000 as leap year, so 2000 must be leap
> year.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn Behalf Of R.
> > Christopher Lott
> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 1998 10:39 AM
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject: Leap Year / Y2K - Again?
> >
> >
> > Last week or so there was a post about Y2K and Leap Year.  As best as
> > my feeble mind can recall, year 2000 is *not* a leap year.  Yet the
> > appointment book and 123 seem to think it is.  I haven't checked the
> > BIOS to see if it thinks its a leap year or not.  Have I missed something
> > here?  To me, this would imply that something is *not* Y2K compliant if
> > it doesn't properly calculate leap years.  Please explain and/or set me
> > straight...
> >
> > -Chris
> >
> > --
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:54:08 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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At 07:37 PM 8/30/98 -0700, you wrote:
>UNSUBSCRIBE
>
>I originally joined this list because its participants engaged in useful,
>helpful, technical dialog. The pathetic remarks directed to someone's
>legitimate question about an upgrade are all too typical of the general
>tenor of this group in recent months.
>
>It is sad to see that what had been an intelligent forum for technical
>exchange was subverted by a technological parochialism that will ultimately
>be its undoing.
>
>Please change your mailing list name to WWW.LUDDITES.NET
>It is far more appropriate.
>
Whoa there,
This was an isolated incident here. The large majority of our
correspondences remain useful, helpful and technical.
If you wan't to see some real childish behavior, check out Windows CE-Talk.
I know, I've been monitoring it for awhile just to track what's happening
with the wince users. I've gone so far as to filter some of their member's
email to my trash folder without even reading them.

Owen



--------------
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Amateur call: KU4ET
Macon Amateur Radio Club W4BKM: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/marc/marc.html
HP200LX: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

"Well-informed people know that it is impossible to transmit the voice
over wires and that, were it possible to do so, the thing would be of
no practical value."
                                   A newspaper editor in 1865

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> Last week or so there was a post about Y2K and Leap Year.  As best as
> my feeble mind can recall, year 2000 is *not* a leap year.  Yet the


This has been discussed on cis' HPHAND a number of times.  The year 2000
is an exception to the exception for Leap Year counting.  The HP handles
it correctly.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:27:37 -0500
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On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 sponsor@ftel.net wrote:

> Vivek,
>
>  >   Does anyone know where I can obtain specs for HP laserjet 2 programming
>  > for the palmtop?  What sort of an interface is it and other details.
>
> I have something for you. It has all the commands for a Pentax
> people for the PocketJet printer which emulates LaserJet II.
> Let me know if ok to send. Less than 20K.
>
>   Avi M. D&A
>

Sure Avi.  No problem at all!  Just send it aws an attachment to a mail

Thanks in advance

Vivek

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:29:05 -0500
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On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 sponsor@ftel.net wrote:

> Dear Vivek:
>
>  >   I would like to announce the availability of DOCHTML v 1.1 utility for
>  > the HPxxxLX palmtops.  This utility converts the inbuilt memo application
>  > documents into HTML files that can be published on the web.  The new
>  > features in the current version include support for Internationalization.
>
> Excellent! I am pleased this is out now. Will you permit me to
> place an entry on our Web page for this, and link to your URL?
>
>  Avi Meshar
>  D&A Software, Inc.
>
>

Hi Avi
  Yes please do so.  the url is http://www.mcs.net/~vivek/homepage/hp/software/dochtml.htm

Vivek

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The year 2000 is a leap year.  Any year that divides evenly by 4 is a leap
year.  The century years are slightly different.  The first two digits of a
century year must be evenly divisible by 4.  2000, is, but 1900 was not.
The year is 365.2425 days long, not 365.25.  In four hundred years one extra
day is picked up.  Therefore only certain century years are leap years.

Dr. Robert C. Knodt
7302 Kim Shelly Court
Mechanicsville, VA  23111
RCKnodt@aol.com

Accept that some days you are the statue, and some days you are the bird.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 13:13:25 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Windows CE 2.0 upgrade ROM - wounded innocence
Comments: To: John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
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>.....however, I assume you are talking about the fellow who wanted to upgrade
>his ROM (I think with a better operating system- wasn't it, something like
>GEOS??) I did respond to his post very civilly.........

he wanted to upgrade his wince rom version and thought the price he found
was too high. He wanted to know where to get the best upgrade for his money
and someone recommended an HP200LX as an upgrade. I agree!






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HP200LX: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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over wires and that, were it possible to do so, the thing would be of
no practical value."
                                   A newspaper editor in 1865

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:18:56 -0700
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I've seen enough of this now that I have to Once Again put in my $.02 for
Thompson Automation's AWK compiler (TAWK) (www.tasoft.com/~thompson/).  It
takes less than 300K, and you can Diet it down to under 200K.  It has all
the pwoer of Perl, plus you can do anything with it that you can do with C,
including DOS interrupt calls, port I/O, direct memory access, etc.  And you
don't have to worry about boundary checking or getting/freeing memory.  And
it will automatically write very large arrays to EMS or disk  (just about
anything runs in 250K RAM).  And you get the power of the AWK language plus
extensions.  Downsides: it is slower than a C or ASM program, and helps to
be comfortable with C.  Upsides: it is easy, fast, and fun.
-Geo.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 17:28:25 GMT
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Subject:      Re: Windows CE 2.0 upgrade ROM - wounded innocence
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On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:19:41 -0700, Peter Castro wrote:

>  That's not the point!  With a generic name like "HPLX" what did you
>expect?  The poor guy was looking for help, and the response he got was
>nothing short of juvenile.  A simple "look else where" would have been
>sufficient, or have we lost all sense of civility?  Would you be able to
>say the same thing to the guys face, in person?
>  People aren't psychic email readers.  Many of us have at least look at
>a WinCE upgrade at one point and might have gleamed some information =
that
>just might be useful to someone else.  Heck, I bought a 620LX for my =
wife
>because she's use to Windows already.
>  Oh, and if you have any flamage to reply with, kindly do so *in =
private
>email*!  No need to clutter the list with your insensitive remarks.
>(Better yet, come to my house and say it to my face.  I guarantee I'll
>have my baseball bat ready in rebuttal :-)

You do go a bit over the top don't you. I merely suggested that this is =
not
the correct forum for WinCE questions and you respond as though *I* had
flamed the original poster. Please check the thread more carefully. Oh, =
and
BTW, I also think he was sent away too harshly, but I've seen a lot worse
when people ask things in the wrong Usenet groups. It's unfortunate, but
that's the way it goes.

Maybe we *should* do something to make the list's purpose more apparent.
Unfortunately people do seem to just dive in without checking these days.
If he'd read the list for a few days it would have been perfectly clear
that there is no WinCE discussion here (except for these occasional
things).

=46inally, I did email the guy to say I thought he hadn't been very well
treated, and got a pretty unfriendly reply - this didn't exactly do his
case much good.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:37:39 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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              Sargeant" at Aug 31, 98 08:19:35 am
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Thanks to all those kind souls who set me straight on this matter.  Now
I have re-learned the leap year rules, and hopefully I won't forget it
next time a leap-century rolls around in year 2400.

Thanks,

-Chris


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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:39:48 -0700
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I have a laptop at work that is running dos.  It has two pc card slots on
it.  I want to be able to read and write to my ATA flash card.

How do I do this?  I tried accessing the card as d: drive but I get invalid
drive.  I have noticed that there are some pcmcia drivers loaded when it
boots.  I also rebooted with the card in place, no luck.

Any ideas?

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments)
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Subject:      Re: Leap Year / Y2K - Again?
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R. Christopher Lott wrote:
>
> Last week or so there was a post about Y2K and Leap Year.  As best as
> my feeble mind can recall, year 2000 is *not* a leap year.  Yet the
> appointment book and 123 seem to think it is.  I haven't checked the
> BIOS to see if it thinks its a leap year or not.  Have I missed something
> here?  To me, this would imply that something is *not* Y2K compliant if
> it doesn't properly calculate leap years.  Please explain and/or set me
> straight...
>
> -Chris
>
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The year 2000 IS a leap year, but it's an exception to an exception!
Generall, years divisible by 4 are leap years. This corrects for the
fact that a full rotation of the Earth around the Sun actually takes
approximately 365.25 days, not 365.  However, the exact number is
slighly less than 365.25 so to keep the calendar correct, every 100
years the leap year is dropped. Unfortunately, this over corrects and
therefore, every 400 years the leap year is added back.  In addition, I
think there are other adjustments but we won't have to worry about them
for many centuries!   Hope this is helpful.
--



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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 13:07:06 -0700
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On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, John Guenther wrote:
> > Last week or so there was a post about Y2K and Leap Year.  As best as
> > my feeble mind can recall, year 2000 is *not* a leap year.  Yet the

I attended a y2k seminar a while back and they pointed out dozens of times
that it is a leap year.

The gave a long complex reason.

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 13:28:22 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Problem DOCHTML
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DOCHTML v 1.1 gives me a invalid document file specified.
Can anybody explain this.

The command line I used is: dochtml test.doc index

Looking forward to a reply.




Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.1.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:33:09 -0400
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I just found this mini-computer while catching up information about Linux,
and since we have a few Linux folks floating around on the list I thought it
might be of interest. If you look at this device, I have but one question:
Apache on a handheld? A little extreme, but I like it :)

http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/

--Patrick McGouirk

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:41:01 -0400
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I was cruisin' through a CPAN site and, much to my surprise, found this
ftp://ftp.metronet.com/pub/perl/modules/by-module/HP200LX/
<ftp://ftp.metronet.com/pub/perl/modules/by-module/HP200LX/> . It seems
to be a Perl module for muckin' with the 200LX databases and is intended
to run on a desktop. I know we can run Perl 4.x for dos on the LX so
maybe this'll work on the LX also.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:41:07 EDT
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In a message dated 98-08-31 11:24:41 EDT, you write:

<< 2000 _is_ a leap year.  The rule is: every four years we have a leap year,
 EXCEPT in century years (i.e. 1700, 1800, 1900), UNLESS the century is
 divisible by 400, in which case it IS a leap year.  So 1600 was a leap
 year, but not 1700, 1800, or 1900, but 2000 will be one. >>

In the US, and in the current era, its a lot easier.  If its a US presidential
election year, its leap year.  (Impechments do not effect election years.)

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:07:28 -0700
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Is there a way to redirect the comm port via a simple command before a
application is run.

For example,  I normally use qfax on comm 1.  But once in a while I want to
use it on comm 2.  Without changing the programs setup, can I create a
simple batch file that will redirect comm 1 to comm 2, and then switch it
back when the program is exited?

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments)
http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 20:45:49 -0400
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Has anyone noticed a conflict between HV and KEY200.COM.  When key200
is loaded and I try to load a local file in HV for which an index
file already exists, I get the following error message: "Error could
not created index file (LAB)"  The problem doesn't occur the first time
I view a file or if key200 is not loaded.

I thought I'd see if anyone knows of a work around for this problem
before I reported it as a bug.


Michael Hendricks

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:09:12 -0400
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Of course, if we are going to discuss Pascal vs. C, all must read
Brian Kernighan's paper on Pascal as a programming language:

Why Pascal is Not My Favorite Programming Language

http://bit.csc.lsu.edu/tutorial/ten-commandments/bwk-on-pascal.html
http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/bwk/cm/cs/cstr/100.ps.gz

Clark

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Blacksburg, Virginia USA
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Subject:      Re: 200lx to Office 97 conversion
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On 20 Aug 98 at 20:37, Al Chin wrote:

> Hi
> Does WORD have a Portuguese/Brazilian
> spell checker/dictionary?

Yes I have spell checker for  WORD 5.5 DOS , WORD 6 WIN and a friend
of mine has WORD 7 WIN95.

I also have the spellchecker  for WP 5.0 DOS  and WordStar 5.0 and
7.0 DOS.

If you want more details drop me a private mail.




ݨs


Eduardo Cesana

ECOLOGICA Tecnologia & Controle Ambiental Ltda
Tel +55 (0)71 375-3311  Fax +55 (0)71 375-1141
mailto:ecesana@ax.apc.org
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I must have missed some email on this.  All I saw was a bunch of people
slamming a guy for posting a HPLX question to a HPLX list.  He was probably
just not familiar with that fact that this listing is geared more towards
LX100/200's.  Perhaps we should change the name of the listing to HPLX200
(or 100, or 95?)

just read the other responses prior to my server sending this message out.
Noticed that no one flamed the palm pilot dialog that was posted the same
day.  Maybe there is hope for us yet :o)

Ray

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:53:18 -0400
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What is the best way to set up the 200LX with wireless e-mail?

1.  Cell phone, PC Card, and ISP.
2.  Radio systems (ardis, ram mobile data, etc.)
3.  Cellular Digital Packet Data
4.  Others

I have dialup ISP already, so I'm leaning towards the cell phone
solution, but some of the other options seem less bulky and more suited
to data communications (I don't want to make voice calls, so a cell
phone seems like overkill.)  Are there any companies that make a "cell
phone" that only does data but that can access the regular cellular
network?  I couldn't find any.

Michael Hendricks

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 22:27:11 -0400
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              John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
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It was mentioned you cannot export data to ModStat. I think you can. What
you need to do is get the data entered in Lotus then print it into a file.
Change the name of the file into a six character one with no extension.
Then ModStat will read the file:).

Cheers

John
Sent using a big clumsy PC.
Wish I was using my 200LX!!

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1998 23:25:11 EDT
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John,

I'm the author of MODSTAT.  The files are all ASCII files.  If you create one
and then look at it you should see the method I used.  The first line is
usually a value to inidcate how many groups are in the file or, in the case of
some ANOVA tests, it indicates the number of each variable and the number in
each cell.

Some students at VCU found that they could export Excel files to Modstat by
making only minor changes.

The files are set up so that routines that would be associated would be able
to read the files of the other associated routines but not files from other
routines,  for instance, a file created for a One-Way ANOVA Between-groups can
be read by corresponding nonparametric tests but can't be read by a One-Way
ANOVA Within-groups.  A file created by a Pearson liner regression routine can
be read by routines to look for Power, Log, Exponential or polynomial
regression routines and any corresponding nonparametric routine, Spearman or
Kendall.

To see the file structure simply create a dummy file with whatever routine you
want.  Then look at the file with any program that will display an ASCII file.
If you then have data that can be exported from another program into ASCII you
simply change the header and sometimes the list value in the file.  I used
-999 to show division between groups of data and at the end of a file.

If you need help, contact me.
Dr. Robert C. Knodt
7302 Kim Shelly Court
Mechanicsville, VA  23111
RCKnodt@aol.com
 <A HREF="mailto: rcknodt@aol.com">Robert C. Knodt</A>

"The Law of Gravity says no fair jumping up without coming down."

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