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I downloaded that CIC200 driver of yours. The modem I am using is a SMART
"ST 1414L". It seems to work great! In fact, it has solved a problem I
was having using this modem. Prior to using your driver, I had to attempt
to initalize the modem, reboot & it would come up on the second attempt.
Now I run my com program from a batch file (which loads & unloads the
CIC200 driver as well) & the modem comes up on the first try. I had been
thinking of getting another modem, but now it appears that I can wait
until I can't stand the "slow" (14.4k) speed.

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)

>I updated my "Downloads" page to have a link to
>CIC200.  Be warned, though, that it won't work
>with all modems yet...
>--
>Visit the 200LX site at
>http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Fri, 1 May 1998 06:50:25 -0400
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Has anybody built the voice recorder for the HP200LX which is
described in VOICE.ZIP on S.U.P.E.R.? It enables voice
recording through the serial port. I am interested in
experiences about speech quality and filesizes. If anybody has
that piece of hardware and is willing to sell it, please let me
know.

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Jeff -

You said in the HPLX mailing list:

> How can one tell which 200 LX units can have their RAM upgraded and which
> one cannot?

Check out the Marcan Distribution web page at
"http://www.marcan-dist.com/hp-memory1.htm#Boards".

I can't vouch for its accuracy but is a good guideline.


Brian Girling
Group Sales
Great Canadian Holidays Inc.
Our Web Site: http://home.ica.net/~girling/ventures/
Email: great_canadian@iname.com
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>
> > How can one tell which 200 LX units can have their RAM upgraded and which
> > one cannot?
>
> Check out the Marcan Distribution web page at
> "http://www.marcan-dist.com/hp-memory1.htm#Boards".

When I wanted to get a 2mb LX upgraded to 6mb by Mack of T2T last year,
the question came up as to which 2mb models were upgradeable to 6mb, his
suggestion was:

"You would definately be better off getting a 2MB model and the serial
number should start with SG6.  The only way to be 100% is to do an
ESC-ON memory test and see if it counts to 127."

I only mention this here cuz I noticed the Marcan web page didn't mention
the ESC-ON test.

- Longden

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On 1998-04-18 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com

snip
   >I use F4 to search for something in all of the data bases.  It's
   >slow -- sometimes I go off and do something else waiting for it.
   >Or use CPACK200 on my Pentium desktop where its fast<grin>.
   >I hope I've answered your questions.
   >Aloha - bob    \ooo_
   >>Date:    Sat, 18 Apr 1998 18:22:50 -0500
   >......snip......
snip

Have you tried global search (gs.exm) found on super? It searches all
the built in apps data files as well as ascii files in a specified
directory.It even takes wild cards for searching multiple files.  I
think it's faster than the built in apps at searching. When it finds
the item you can have launch the app and put you right at the found
item(s).  Pretty slick. The only improvement I could think of is to allow
recursive dos directory searches.

Can anyone get in touch with the author of gs.exm to explore the
possibility of adding the recursive dir feature? I know it's one of the
Japanese guys.


           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

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>"You would definately be better off getting a 2MB model and the serial
>number should start with SG6.

What about those that start with SG535....

Cheers,
Lucy

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>"You would definately be better off getting a 2MB model and the serial
>number should start with SG6.

What about those that start with SG535....

Cheers,
Lucy

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On Fri, 1 May 1998, Lucy Leong wrote:

> >"You would definately be better off getting a 2MB model and the serial
> >number should start with SG6.
>
> What about those that start with SG535....

As stated in the earlier post, check the Marcan website (see below). The
only real addendum I wanted to make was Mack's remark about the Esc-On
test. I think the website covers the serial number issue in more detail
than Mack's comment, tho I can't vouch for the accuracy of either source.

- Longden

> > How can one tell which 200 LX units can have their RAM upgraded and which
> > one cannot?
>
> Check out the Marcan Distribution web page at
> "http://www.marcan-dist.com/hp-memory1.htm#Boards".

When I wanted to get a 2mb LX upgraded to 6mb by Mack of T2T last year,
the question came up as to which 2mb models were upgradeable to 6mb, his
suggestion was:

"You would definately be better off getting a 2MB model and the serial
number should start with SG6.  The only way to be 100% is to do an
ESC-ON memory test and see if it counts to 127."

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> >"You would definately be better off getting a 2MB model and the serial
> >number should start with SG6.
>
> What about those that start with SG535....
>
> Cheers,
> Lucy
>
Those will get a 5MB C drive instead of 6MB.

Jorgen

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Date:         Fri, 1 May 1998 11:33:32 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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I just made a nice little discovery that will ease my communications from Linux
to my 200LX:

Since I use lxtools all the time to transfer files and I also like to hook into
my Linux box for a direct serial connection with WWW/LX, I use two different
serial lines. Reason is, lxtools won't work with a getty on the serial line and
WWW/LX won't work without one. This had me constantly crawling under my desk to
switch lines.

I just now put a Belkin Slimswitch #F1B024-V inline to try and switch between
the two and low and behold it worked! I rotate the switch to "A" for WWW/LX or
a serial terminal and "B" for lxtools.

I used the HP adapter #5181-6640 (printer icon) at the end of my 1015 serial
cable for the I/O port. For the A and B ports, I just plugged my Cyclades card
cables in with no adapters.

Just a helpful tidbit. :)

Mitch

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I would like to buy one too.

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The FAQ, which is slightly old states that a Radio Shack Cat no. 273-1652b
seems to work. It is only rated at 600mA ...
Now the part number is 273-1652d $11.95 It is a big (fist sized) unit.
So I'm wondering if anyone uses it and is it really ok?

Second if anyone know where to otain cheaply the HP offical adapter F1011A
 which I'm told is much smaller (credit card size but one inch thick.)

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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On Fri, 1 May 1998, Patrick West wrote:

> Second if anyone know where to otain cheaply the HP offical adapter F1011A
>  which I'm told is much smaller (credit card size but one inch thick.)

Some of the Chicago area Servie Merchandise stores had the
HP adapters on closeout a month or two back.  You might
check your local stores.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Fri, 1 May 1998 13:56:22 -0400
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Coincidentally, I was in Service Merchandise (NC) this morning and picked up a
genuine HP F1011A Adapter for $9.80 on clearance.  Fantastic price.


Patrick West wrote:

> The FAQ, which is slightly old states that a Radio Shack Cat no. 273-1652b
> seems to work. It is only rated at 600mA ...
> Now the part number is 273-1652d $11.95 It is a big (fist sized) unit.
> So I'm wondering if anyone uses it and is it really ok?
>
> Second if anyone know where to otain cheaply the HP offical adapter F1011A
>  which I'm told is much smaller (credit card size but one inch thick.)
>
> Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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>The FAQ, which is slightly old states that a Radio Shack Cat no. 273-1652b
>seems to work. It is only rated at 600mA ...
>Now the part number is 273-1652d $11.95 It is a big (fist sized) unit.
>So I'm wondering if anyone uses it and is it really ok?
>
>Second if anyone know where to otain cheaply the HP offical adapter F1011A
> which I'm told is much smaller (credit card size but one inch thick.)
>
>Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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I have used Radio Shack power adaptor on my 100LX for more than a year, and
it seems to work very well. It is however bulky, and I leave it on my desk
at all time. I remember paying less than $7, though.
**************************
Joseph K. Hwang,MD
Section of Maternal Fetal Medicine
Department of Obstetrics & Gynecology
Yale University School of Medicine
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On Fri, 1 May 1998, Patrick West wrote:

> The FAQ, which is slightly old states that a Radio Shack Cat no. 273-1652b
> seems to work. It is only rated at 600mA ...
> Now the part number is 273-1652d $11.95 It is a big (fist sized) unit.
> So I'm wondering if anyone uses it and is it really ok?

I have both the 273-1652d and the HP adapters. Use the former at work and
the latter at home, both work fine under a full load (charging while
driving a 14.4 PCMCIA modem). I did have another of the same RS adapters
that seemed to have quit on me, so the question may be more of quality
than whether there's sufficient power.

- Longden

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David:

> Now I know why we should discuss these things privately, you prgrammed =
so
> much into it even you don't remember it all <GD&Ring very fast>

Would it shock you to know I had not one line of code in it?
:) Andreas is the Genius. I am a mere humble servant of the
company, cleaning ashtrays, filling out orders, etc... <g>

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> Second if anyone know where to otain cheaply the HP offical adapter F1011A
>  which I'm told is much smaller (credit card size but one inch thick.)

Also of note (if you are interested in small size) is the little adapter that
Mack sells from Times2Tech. He sent me one of these and it is about half the
size of the official HP model. It doesn't have the sexy retracting prongs
though...

http://www.times2tech.com

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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David,

I'm copying this reply to the group in case anybody else is
confused. (for everybody else this is about the DataPerfect database
program available at:
http://www.sanbachs.com/compusofl/download.html)

I downloaded them all - and if you decide you will use the program you
will probably download all of them as well.  DPTUTOR.ZIP will give you
a tutorial to see what the program looks like and a little bit of what
it can do.

To write your own apps you MUST have DPPROG.ZIP which has the 2
files necessary to run the program that's all you need to put on your
computer to run the program and create databases.  The file DPAPPS.ZIP
has a number of apps that shipped with the program originally - these
2 zipped files will give you all you need to run the program and
sample apps.  The manual (less illustrations/tables) is in the file
DPMAN.ZIP in WP5.1 format - after you decide if you want to look
further at making your own applications you will need to download it.

As for the other files the description should let you decide which
ones you may want - as I said, I downloaded them all.

There are also a couple of password protected files - one is DPMOUSE a
utility which adds mouse support and some functions to DataPerfect -
the other is an excellent book by Ralph Alvy - No need to download
these unless you want to buy the password to unzip and use them
Both are worthwhile if you get serious about developing
applications.



Good luck.

> Date:          Fri, 1 May 1998 07:10:43 -0700 (PDT)
> From:          David Hart <hartd@rocketmail.com>
> Reply-to:      hartd@poboxes.com
> Subject:       Which files should you download?
> To:            melancon@prysm.net

> I'm a little confused by the DataPerfect site. Exactly which files should you
> download from the download area?
>
>
> ===
> Dave Hart (hartd@poboxes.com)
> Beavercreek (Dayton), OH USA
> Join the effort to bring Catholic Radio to the Miami Valley
> Miami Valley Catholic Radio <http://www.radiolink.net/mvcr>
> Pillar of Fire, Pillar of Truth
> <http://www.catholic.com/answers/other/pillar.htm>
>
> ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS:
>
> Date:
>         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 23:22:17 +0000
>   From:
>         Mike Melancon <melancon@PRYSM.NET>
>  Subject:
>         Re: Database s/w for 200LX
>
>
> <snipped>
> >Well, no, really I'm interested in old MS-DOS database software
> > that will run on the 200LX.

> <snipped>
>
> Have a look at DataPerfect - developed by WordPerfect and now
> available free from the following site:
> http://www.sanbachs.com/compusofl/index.html
>
> It is fast - handles large databases with no degradation in
> performance - and is perfectly happy running on XT class machines
>
> You can lookup a record from any field - hit the up arrow and a
> lookup window pops up.  You can browse up and down with the arrow
> keys or begin typing and as each letter is entered the index goes to
> the first record matching your entry.
>
>
> Mike Melancon
> melancon@prysm.net
>
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melancon@prysm.net

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Longden (or anyone on the list):

1.  I'm also having a problem with an HP100LX 2MB locking up, but I'm not
sure it is a problem with lack of memory since I can run the program from
System Manager's DOS window (CTRL-123) after running ASERCTL first.

2.  When I run Dexter text editor, it runs and exits OK under the following
situations:

a.  From plain DOS. (System Manager not loaded).

b.  From Filer after loading System Manager.

c.  From Application Manager (using the | symbol after the filename).

d. From a Software Carousel (SC) DOS window after loading both SC and
System Manager.

3.  The problem is that Dexter locks up at the first screen under the
following situations and requires CTRL-SHFT-ON to restart palmtop:

a.  After loading System Manager and loading Dexter in System Manager's DOS
window (CTRL-123).

b.  After loading SC, then System Manager, and then loading Dexter in
System Manager's DOS window (CTRL-123).

c.  After loading SC, then System Manager, then Norton Commander in System
Manager's DOS window (CTRL-123), and then loading Dexter with Norton
Commander.

4.  I have gotten Dexter to run OK under the situations in paragraph 3
above if I first run ASERCTL in System Manager's DOS window before running
Dexter.  However, when I then exit Dexter, I get the following error message:

"Memory allocation error
Cannot start COMMAND, exiting"

5. I've tried loading COMMAND.COM before Dexter, but Dexter still locked up.

6.  So I've found ways to use Dexter, but I'd like the flexibility to load
it at any time from any program.

7.  Do you still think it is a memory problem?  Any other ideas as to what
the cause of the problem may be?

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Date:         Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:37:09 -0700
From: "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
Subject:      Re: dos program dies, locks up all
Comments: To: Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
>
> I have no experience using the hp200lx for anything non standard. I run
> sidekick for dos but exit system manager to do that.
>
> I have a small dos program (esdos.exe) that when added to system manager
> freezes the system with
> string space corrupt in module L  at address 7B6F:7B6F
> requiring a cntr-alt-del reboot.
> However the same program when run from filer does fine. I tried a bat file
> to run it and the bat file starts the I get the same error message.

Sounds like a memory limitation. When you run it from Filer, SysMgr gives
you all available memory. When you run it from the App Menu, you usually
get what the default allocation for DOS is (I think its about 96k on stock
LX's). You may want to increase the DOS memory allocation in Setup, or if
you have esdos.exe in an icon, follow it with the vertical bar to give it
the max memory.

- Longden

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I got the HP1011AAZT from Service Merchandise for, think it was $12 +
shipping when
I got my HP200LX in March on a clearance sale. Try 1-800-251-1212...they
just may have some left.



>The FAQ, which is slightly old states that a Radio Shack Cat no. 273-1652b
>seems to work. It is only rated at 600mA ...
>Now the part number is 273-1652d $11.95 It is a big (fist sized) unit.
>So I'm wondering if anyone uses it and is it really ok?
>
>Second if anyone know where to otain cheaply the HP offical adapter F1011A
> which I'm told is much smaller (credit card size but one inch thick.)
>
>Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
>PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
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Subject:      WTT HP300 OmniBook for HP200LX.

I recently acquired an HP300 OmniBook, with 2M of RAM and a 40M hard drive
stacked to 80M.  The unit is in excellent shape, except the battery only
lasts about half an hour with the hard drive in.  When I run it with the 10M
card from my HP100, it lasts about and hour or two.  A new battery is $45
from McGlen. Having played with this OmniBook for a month, I love it, it is
the ultimate writer's machine.  There are no manuals, but everything is self
explanatory from the help files in ROM.  This machine runs windows 3.1 and
has WORD and EXCEL in ROM as well as the HP PIMS and calculator.  It has no
disk drive, although they can be obtained on the net for $50 or less.  I
just use LapLink(also built into ROM) to transfer files, or use a PCMCIA RAM
card.

 I really need to replace my venerable old HP100, however.  It's  right
hinge broke off completely a few months ago(although the unit still
functions).

Therefore, I would like to trade the HP300 with 2M or RAM for an HP200 with
2M of RAM. If your are tired of that tiny little keyboard, please respond by
email, if you are interested.  Thanks.

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>  I really need to replace my venerable old HP100, however.  It's  right
> hinge broke off completely a few months ago(although the unit still
> functions).

I recently posted my experiences fixing a very broken 100lx hinge
with epoxy to the list, did you see it?

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Date:         Fri, 1 May 1998 22:04:18 -0400
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Subject:      Hinge Break

For those of you who want to see pictures of the hinge break on my HP100, go
to:

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/1825/

but, I warn you the picutures are quite graphic.

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At 07:03 PM 5/1/1998 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Therefore, I would like to trade the HP300 with 2M or RAM for an HP200 with
>2M of RAM. If your are tired of that tiny little keyboard, please respond by
>email, if you are interested.  Thanks.
__________________________________________________
If you get more orders than you can fill , let ne know; I'm in hte same
situation.  Still have the initial Batteries in, never registered, new in
box; I'll throw in an Eddie Bauer case

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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 12:33:55 +1000
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Subject:      Re: Serial Dumb Terminal Emulation and using PC card modem
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Clark Mason wrote:



> However, if you're having trouble with connecting at all, then I'd
> suspect an incorrect line speed setting, wrong com port setting, bad
> cable or the wrong adapter (null modem vs straight through).
>
> -clark

 I realise this is a different question but I am unable to get my Card
Modem (AMCOM Rapid V.32 bis Data/Fax 14400) to work using Datacom or
GPostal.  The same card works in  my newton using the Hayes Basic
setting but the HP 100Lx can't seem to see it.  I have experimented with
various init strings with no luck and am using Com 2.  As far as I can
see Cic is loaded and I wonder whether having TFFS loaded (for a
Magicram flash card) has somehow effected the com ports.
Frustrating because I was hoping to switch over to using the HP for
email and fax.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks.

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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 13:42:33 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Subject:      Re: Looking for a C compiler for the HP200LX
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              "Johnson, Richard C" at Apr 29, 98 07:39:01 am
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> Is it available commercially or is it shareware? Do you recall the
> price?
Mine belongs to a friend who doesn't use it - he's lent his
license to me.

I *think* the borland policy is that if you own a later version, you
are allowed to use the earlier version - but they do not sell the old
versions. It's pretty silly, if you don't need the version they are
now selling.

On the other hand, there are sites around that have put up the code.
This is, of course, illegal.

> > Highly reccommend turbo C (& C++). I use Turbo C++ 1.01 1990

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Subject:      Re: Palmtop Lock-up
Comments: cc: weather@EXIS.NET

   >Longden (or anyone on the list):
   >1.  I'm also having a problem with an HP100LX 2MB locking up, but
   >I'm not sure it is a problem with lack of memory since I can run
   >the program from System Manager's DOS window (CTRL-123) after
   >running ASERCTL first.
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 04:40:50 +0000
Message-ID: <19980502044048.AAA27125@12.64.36.82>

<many agonizing but helpful problem permutations omitted>

   >6.  So I've found ways to use Dexter, but I'd like the flexibility
   >to load it at any time from any program.
   >7.  Do you still think it is a memory problem?  Any other ideas as
   >to what the cause of the problem may be?

Don,

My gut feeling is that you have a memory space problem. Common to all
lockups are running Dexter from Ctrl-123 which gets you the default
DOS ram allocation in your Setup.

The fact that you can reliably run dexter using the maximum ram methods
(Filer, plain DOS, or using vertical bar in icon definition) seems to
bear that out.

It's possible that ASERCTL plays some tricks with memory that somehow
allows dexter to run, albeit unreliably. I'm not really familiar with
ASERCTL.

What you need to do is check the amount of default ram you have set for
DOS (Setup/System/Advanced/DOS)...I believe the default is about 96k.
Check the docs for dexter and find the recommended amount of RAM they
suggest for the program, then set the same amount (or more) in Setup.

- Longden


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Date:         Fri, 1 May 1998 23:50:25 -0500
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Was there any premonition?  Did it get stiff first?
Or loose?

Larry Brockman wrote:

> For those of you who want to see pictures of the hinge break on my HP100, go
> to:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/1825/
>
> but, I warn you the picutures are quite graphic.
>
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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 15:09:17 +1000
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I must say that "The LXMap Collection" is a great idea on the SUPER pages
        http://www.palmtop.net/lxmap.html

There's 16 maps there so far...

I haven't yet actually tried LXMap out - but I thought others might
be interested to know of this.


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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 01:18:41 -0400
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Hey all.
ANY ADAPTER THAT PUTS OUT 12VOLTS DC WILL WORK.
It ain't rocket science!
I've been using a Radio Shack 12v adapter rated for only 300mAmps, even
with my modem connected.
It hasn't spontaneously combusted in over a year of charging overnight
every other day.
It cost $9.95.
Buy one at a yard sale for $0.50.

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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 01:38:25 -0400
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Just make sure it has the correct polarity, or it can damage the HP. HP's
want the negative terminal in the center.

>>Jonathan Gates wrote:

Hey all.
ANY ADAPTER THAT PUTS OUT 12VOLTS DC WILL WORK.
It ain't rocket science!
I've been using a Radio Shack 12v adapter rated for only 300mAmps, even
with my modem connected.
It hasn't spontaneously combusted in over a year of charging overnight
every other day.
It cost $9.95.
Buy one at a yard sale for $0.50.<<

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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 07:59:13 -0500
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Subject:      Programming Serial Modem?
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All this recent discussion about serial ports brought to mind a real
strange problem that I encountered several years ago when I first
bought my 200LX.  I was on travel at the time, and had with me this
suitcase-sized "luggable" computer.  One thing that the luggable
lacked was a modem.  Well, I got to thinking, and figured that I
could turn my palmtop computer into a modem.

I wrote a real short program in C (using the Power C compiler) that
would read characters from the wire serial port (COM1) and copy them
to the serial modem card (COM2). This worked like a champ... well,
almost.  There was one flaw.  I could start off a modem session
just like normal from the luggable.  I could "talk" to my pseudo-
modem using the standard AT commands.  I could set and query the
modes, and dial a number just fine.  But, whenever the modem would
connect, something would happen that would lock up the palmtop.

Later I wrote to Megahertz (my modem mfr) to ask what this problem
might have been.  Their reply was that their modems weren't made to
be used in this manner?!?!  I was so frustrated with this I just
gave up (... in *what* manner? You can't talk to it from your
program? Arggh....)

Has anyone here had experience accessing the COM2 modem from within
a program?  If so, is there any special considerations that must
be taken into account, above and beyond those associated with a
normal serial port?  Especially, is there anthing special or
unusual that happens at the moment of connect that I should be
aware of?

It would be nice to get this working.  That would be yet one more
useful function my palmtop coule fulfill.

-Chris Lott

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> could turn my palmtop computer into a modem.
<SNIP>
> It would be nice to get this working.  That would be yet one more
> useful function my palmtop coule fulfill.

Igor Pool has done this already with his COMLINK program (SUPER) so you might
contact him to get the details on how it's done. Michael Schrody has done the
opposite with his Patchcom (SUPER) which allows your palmtop to use your
desktop's modem. (That one may also do the opposite, too. Haven't tried it...)

Mitch
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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 07:24:45 -0700
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Folks,

Thanks for the many fine replies.

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Hi Group-

For several days, I've tried to connect to FTP sites using the new
WWW/LX.  Error messages - "NOT FOUND..." each time.  My ISP has a proxy
server available, & I had set up www.cfg for this.  Works fine for
HTTP, but FTP seems to confuse the proxy server.  This morning, I
edited www.cfg to comment out the proxy server line, and FTP sites came
up OK.

Something to consider if you have any trouble with FTP...

-PR
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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 07:39:56 -0700
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Folks,

I have been able to use the dos version of view to read os/2 inf files on
my hp200lx!

I have ipfc and hyperwise so can also create my onw inf files.  I'm
currently taking a dbase file into pardox 3.5 writing a report that uses
the ipf markup codes and printing to ascii file.
I've been able to compile 2 small databases thus far.  Lots of error and
problems but I look to the day when I can have several small flashcards
with various inf files as a portable reference.

I'm also working with the old dos version of the ISSC library reader for
bookmanager books.


 Patrick West
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Comments: To: dhunt@tc.cac.edu.eg, KNorris1@aol.com, ebacroft@jps.net,
          TOMEPSFF@aol.com, annie@pssbbs.com, Shnookie24@aol.com,
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Hi!    Got this this morning and had to send this to you.   Hope you enjoy as
much as we did!     Cathy

Life on a Deserted Island
<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*

   A hurricane came unexpectedly. The ship went down and was lost. The
man found himself swept up on the shore of an island with no other people,
no supplies, nothing. Only bananas and coconuts. Used to 5-star hotels,
this guy had no idea what to do, so for the next four months he ate
bananas,drank
coconut juice and longed for his old life and fixed his gaze on the sea,
hoping to spot a rescue ship.
   One day, as he was lying on the beach, he spotted movement out of the
corner of his eye. It was a rowboat, and in it was the most gorgeous
woman he had ever seen. She rowed up to him. In disbelief, he asked her:
"Where
did you come from? How did you get here?"
   "I rowed from the other side of the island," she said. "I landed here
when my cruise ship sank."
   "Amazing," he said. "I didn't know anyone else had survived. How many
are there? You were lucky to have a rowboat wash up with you." "It's only
me," she said, "and the rowboat didn't wash up; nothing did."
   He was confused. "Then how did you get the rowboat?"  "Oh, simple,"
replied the woman. "I made the rowboat out of materials that I found on the
island. The oars were whittled from Gum tree branches. I wove the bottom from
palm branches and the sides and stern came from a Eucalyptus tree."
   "B-B-But that's impossible," stuttered the man. "You had no tools or
hardware. How did you manage?"
   "Oh, that was no problem," replied the woman. "On the other side of
the island  there is a very unusual stratum of alluvial rock exposed. I
found that if I fired it to a certain temperature in my kiln, it melted into
forgeable ductile iron. I used that for tools, and used the tools to make the
hardware.
    "But enough of that," she said. "Where do you live?" Sheepishly, he
confessed that he had been sleeping on the beach the whole time.
   "Well, let's row over to my place, then," she said. After a few
minutes of rowing she docked the boat at a small wharf. As the man looked to
the
shore he nearly fell out of the boat. Before him was a stone walk leading to
an
exquisite bungalow painted in blue and white. While the woman tied up
the rowboat with an expertly woven hemp rope, the man could only stare
ahead, dumbstruck. As they walked into the house, she said casually, "It's not
much, but I call it home. Sit down, please; would you like a drink?"
   "No, no thank you," he said, still dazed. "I can't take any more
coconut juice." "It's not coconut juice," the woman replied. "I have a still.
How about
a Pina Colada?" Trying to hide his amazement, the man accepted, and they sat
down on her couch to talk. After they had exchanged their stories, the
woman announced, "I'm going to slip into something comfortable. Would you like
to take a shower and shave? There is a razor upstairs in the cabinet in the
bathroom."
      No longer questioning anything, the man went into the bathroom.
There in the cabinet was a razor made from a bone handle. Two shells honed to
a
hollow ground edge were fastened onto it's end inside a swivel mechanism.
"This
woman is amazing," he mused. "What next?"
   When he returned, she greeted him wearing nothing but vines - strategically
positioned - and smelling faintly of gardenias. She beckoned for him to
sit down next to her. "Tell me," she began, suggestively, slithering closer
to him, "we've been out here for a very long time. You've been lonely.
There's something I'm sure you really feel like doing right now, something
you've been longing for all these months. You know..." She stared into his
eyes.
  He couldn't believe what he was hearing. "You mean--?" he replied, "I can
check
my e-mail from here?

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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 10:58:28 -0500
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Ok List.  I'm sure that this is operator error (mine!).   I just downloaded
WWW/LX and am having trouble negotiating with my ISP.  Does anyone use
MCI???  Perhaps they have a script that they can send to me.

I get this once I connect:

"Starting PPP negotiation
    Negotiating LCP..... "


Then it gives me this message....

"...Aborting!  Could not establish PPP connection
Hanging up...
Exiting WWW/LX"

Now I'm sure that my script must be wrong.  I have re-entered my username
and password twice now.  Any suggestions?
Regards,
Jim J.

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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 12:38:29 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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> Ok List.  I'm sure that this is operator error (mine!).   I just downloaded
> WWW/LX and am having trouble negotiating with my ISP.  Does anyone use
> MCI???  Perhaps they have a script that they can send to me.

I would suggest backing up a step and seeing if MCI will work with PAP/CHAP.
Just select "ISP using PPP with PAP or CHAP" in WWWSETUP and enter your
login/password in the dialog boxes. If that will work, you don't need a script.

If it doesn't, try turning on debugging so you can see what is going wrong.
Your startup line in App Mgr would look like:

C:\WWWLX\WWW.EXE -1|

And don't put the upside down question mark Fn-3 in the comments box. This
will pause the screen when WWW.EXE exits.

You can also send your results to a file so other folks can help you:

C:\WWWLX\WWW.EXE -1>log.txt|

Good luck!

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 13:07:02 -0400
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Would like to buy a small keyboard to plug into  my 200lx.  Dont want a
fancy keyboard.  Just a small, simple one.

Also, don't want to use a PC as an intermediary device.  Just want to
plug directly into the 200lx and start typing.

How do I do it?

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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 13:18:39 -0400
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              "Earl T. Benson" <iona@TIAC.NET>
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List readers who have a Palm Pilot  AND  a 100/200lx.  Which do you use
more?  Why?  Pro and con.

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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 14:29:32 -0400
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              Joseph Casey <caseyjl@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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Earl T. Benson wrote:

> Would like to buy a small keyboard to plug into  my 200lx.  Dont want a
> fancy keyboard.  Just a small, simple one.

Shier still has the Newton keyboard for the Palmtop for sale even though
the Newton itself has been discontinued.

Check out http://www.shier.com/Newtkb.html.

I bought one and find it very valuable.

Joe Casey

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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 03:00:29 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Hi There,

Go to www.dasoft.com and to the FAQ #28- if I remember it correctly. =
There
you can most propably find that your problem is solved. If not, then
please contact Dasoft support as given in the package.

WWW/LX & Post/LX is simply the best e-mail/browsing program available. =
Once
you have tried it, you can't live without it!!!

At least I can't-


Jorgen Wallgren,

P.S. If you have any problems, the support will deffinately get you on
track! WWW/LX has the best support available!!!



> Ok List.  I'm sure that this is operator error (mine!).   I just =
downloaded
> WWW/LX and am having trouble negotiating with my ISP.  Does anyone use
> MCI???  Perhaps they have a script that they can send to me.
>
> I get this once I connect:
>
> "Starting PPP negotiation
>     Negotiating LCP..... "
>
> Then it gives me this message....
>
> "...Aborting!  Could not establish PPP connection
> Hanging up...
> Exiting WWW/LX"

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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 15:06:03 -0400
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              allen solof <allensolof@BOONE.NET>
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some time ago there was a discussion about text viewers and someone
suggested a shareware program called View. Subsequently the author
updated his program to include support for the different screen modes on
the HP. It's a good program.

this is the standard blurb about the program and the URL (it is also
available at S.U.P.E.R.)

"VIEW is a DOS-based viewer for ASCII/ANSI text files and popular word
processor file formats. It features text search functions, the ability to
cut and save blocks of text, and much more. It has a feature that allows HP
Palmtop users to switch between the different display modes. It is
available at http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/~mdrury/shware.html"

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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 23:11:29 +0100
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Hi :-)

I have an SG44 serial number. Is this an early model with known problems ?

Cheers
Ross

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>"You would definately be better off getting a 2MB model and the serial
>number should start with SG6.

What about those that start with SG535....

Cheers,
Lucy

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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 18:10:24 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> Would like to buy a small keyboard to plug into  my 200lx.  Dont want a
> fancy keyboard.  Just a small, simple one.

I've got your simple (read *cheap*) solution.  Get a surplus terminal for
$10 or so.  Plug it into your serial port on the 200LX and issue the CTTY
command.  Voila - you've got a full size screen and keyboard for many
editing and command-line tasks.  No dice with built-in PIM apps or 123,
however.  But it's a cheap option that might serve your needs.  I can
provide more information if you're interested.  Some editors work better
than others in this mode.

Problem - it's not terribly small, depending on what size terminal you
wind up with.

-Chris

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Huntsville, Alabama
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Dear List Members,

In an earlier message I've posted a URL link to download a tides program
for use on 200LX, it may be wrong when I did a copy command using
netscape save link command :

You can use http://www.ftpsearch.com to search for tides309 or use this
search result :
http://conan.filez.com/ftpsearch?query=tides309&doit=Search&type=Case+insensitive+substring+search%A0&hits=100&limdom=&f1=Count%A0&f2=Mode%A0&f3=Size%A0&f4=Date%A0&f5=Host%A0&f6=Path%A0&header=none&sort=date&trlen=20

Sorry for the error.

If you use Win95, you probably want to use tides 4.0 to track the tides
around the world. At more than 2 mb, I haven't try it yet.
http://www.download.com/PC/Result/TitleList/1,2,0-a-0-0-b-1,00.html


Dan Carrington wrote:
>If you have any money to spend on a tide program, see
>    www.tides.com/prodinfo.htm
>and look at tides and currents for DOS.  It even has a pix of the
>program running on a HP palmtop.  I have not tried it yet, but it looks
>better than the Tide program that I have at the moment.  I plan to buy a
>copy when I get the spare money.

Jien Hung

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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 21:41:22 -0500
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Subject:      Re: upgradeable 200 LX

On 04-30 11:00pm, you had written

>> Subject: upgradeable 200 LX?
>>
>> How can one tell which 200 LX units can have their RAM upgraded and which
>> one cannot?
>>
>> --
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------

The Times2Tech web site has the info on this.  Thanks again, Mack!


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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 19:52:58 -0700
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I went to look at them - all I can say is THE HORROR, THE HORROR!

Actually they did make me cringe.

R Bueker

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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 14:08:26 +0900
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Comments: cc: iona@TIAC.NET
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In message "Palm Pilot vs 200lx"
    on 98/05/02, "Earl T. Benson" <iona@TIAC.NET> writes:
>List readers who have a Palm Pilot  AND  a 100/200lx.  Which do you use
>more?  Why?  Pro and con.

I use HP200LX(Double Speed 32M + 40M ATA + SC) and USR Pilot 1000( 3M SRAM).

LX with large ram & SoftwareCarousel is miracle machine, and I
fortunatly have enough old dos program (old good game like SimCity,
Old compiler like tcc++, many good dictionary and encicropedia), so I
prefer lx, but for most new comer it is quite hard to get such old
good software.I thin  its age were gone.

Pilot is small machine, you can put it in your shirt pocket,and you
can get so so large strage for it(now 10M soon 40M?).New apprication
appear almost everydays, and development on linux box is quite easer
than lx.So i think it must have good future.

I strongly recommend to have both.

ken
IABRAGI, Japan

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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 09:53:00 +1200
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> From: Mike Melancon <melancon@prysm.net>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Database s/w for 200LX
> Date: Thursday, 30 April 1998 11:22
>
> <snipped>
> >Well, no, really I'm interested in old MS-DOS database software
> > that will run on the 200LX.
>
> Have a look at DataPerfect - developed by WordPerfect and now
> available free from the following site:
> http://www.sanbachs.com/compusofl/index.html
>
> It is fast - handles large databases with no degradation in
> performance - and is perfectly happy running on XT class machines
>
> You can lookup a record from any field - hit the up arrow and a
> lookup window pops up.  You can browse up and down with the arrow
> keys or begin typing and as each letter is entered the index goes to
> the first record matching your entry.
>
>
> Mike Melancon
> melancon@prysm.net

WOW! Excellent call, dude! This thing rocks! It is so small, (~350k)
compared
to the dbase IV I have been using, and the best feature for me, is the
import
algorithm has a "Special Marker" for the end of record id so you CAN import
your phone listings with pages of data in the note fields! Way Cool! I have

had it running from WP Office 3.0 on the Palmtop, Windows 2.03, Dos, and
even from the system manager! Check it out!

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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 17:21:13 -0700
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ITSUMI ken-ichi wrote:
>
> In message "Palm Pilot vs 200lx"
>     on 98/05/02, "Earl T. Benson" <iona@TIAC.NET> writes:
> >List readers who have a Palm Pilot  AND  a 100/200lx.  Which do you use
> >more?  Why?  Pro and con.
>
> I use HP200LX(Double Speed 32M + 40M ATA + SC) and USR Pilot 1000( 3M SRAM).
>
> LX with large ram & SoftwareCarousel is miracle machine, and I
> fortunatly have enough old dos program (old good game like SimCity,
> Old compiler like tcc++, many good dictionary and encicropedia), so I
> prefer lx, but for most new comer it is quite hard to get such old
> good software.I thin  its age were gone.
>
> Pilot is small machine, you can put it in your shirt pocket,and you
> can get so so large strage for it(now 10M soon 40M?).New apprication
> appear almost everydays, and development on linux box is quite easer
> than lx.So i think it must have good future.
>
> I strongly recommend to have both.
>
> ken
> IABRAGI, Japan
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I would appreciate if someone would advise where can one obtain some of
the old programs which you mentioned.

Montri B.

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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 22:26:22 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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>
> Would like to buy a small keyboard to plug into  my 200lx.  Dont want a
> fancy keyboard.  Just a small, simple one.
I'm sure you'll get lots of replies - have a look at the photo at
the SUPER site (see the auto tag on the post for the URL)

It's Shier systems adaption of the Newton keyboard.

I think their software driver is available separately; so you can make
up the cable yourself if you really want to.

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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 07:52:52 -0400
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Comments: To: David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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->> Have a look at DataPerfect - developed by WordPerfect and now
->> available free from the following site:
->> http://www.sanbachs.com/compusofl/index.html

->WOW! Excellent call, dude! This thing rocks! It is so small, (~350k)
->compared

There seems to be a large number of files associated with this application
at the download site mentioned above.  Which ones are the "essential"
ones?  Also what database formats (dbase, etc) does it import and export
to?

Jeff

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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 22:31:28 +1000
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> I've got your simple (read *cheap*) solution.  Get a surplus terminal for
> $10 or so.  Plug it into your serial port on the 200LX and issue the CTTY
> command.  Voila - you've got a full size screen and keyboard for many
> editing and command-line tasks.

> Problem - it's not terribly small, depending on what size terminal you
> wind up with.

It's a terribly cool idea! :)  Kills the portability, though (as you
imply). This is extreme lateral thinking!


BTW I saw Terminator 2 (again) last night - remember the palmtop the kid
uses to get PINs from an ATM and from the maximum security lab at the
end? It was branded "Atari", and looked like it had about a 10 line
screen. The HP200LX kills this device from a science-fiction film.

PS sorry to use the word "kill" so often. I think 3 times is enough.

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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 10:12:16 -0800
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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: JAM versus Stacker

Don't know about stacker but jam includes a seperate compression
utility that recompresses the jam volume. I used to run it periodically
and got 1.9:1 compression on mixed file types.

On 1998-04-30 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Greetings,
   >I installed JAM to evaluate on my 200lx and downloaded a 75 meg
   >database to a 64meg flashcard.  This DB is strictly text fields with
   >little in terms of spaces, but I only got 1.2 : 1 compression out of
   >this.  The virtual drive shows 150meg of space total, but my DB only
   >got squeezed down to about 58meg.  I anticipate the DB growing soon
   >beyond my flashcard capabilities at this rate.
   >I installed JAM with default options, which should have yielded
   >max compression.
   >I have Stacker from my old PC days and am wondering if I can see
   >more compression by using it versus JAM.  Anyone have experience
   >comparing the two??
   >tnx,

           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

Love and scandal are the best sweeteners of tea.

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Registered

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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 10:21:29 -0400
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To WWW/LX-using S.U.P.E.R. addicts:

As you all know, the irony of ironies has existed for some time over here at
the S.U.P.E.R. Site. WWW/LX could not download anything from our pages. Avi
Meshar was very generous in outfitting Peter and I with the latest, greatest
WWW/LX Plus and we have now solved the problem.

We all thought that the incompatibility was due to the way we count downloads
so the Top 20 page can be built. There is an HTTP and a FTP re-direct in the
same link. Andreas did not think that HV would work with such a link and we had
accepted that and were working on a fix. It turns out that HV doesn't mind the
link format, but it does not like the ftp server where our main collection
resides. The folks at D&A have been aprised of this and are most likely working
to clear this up as there are probably many other sites out there running the
same server software.

The good news is that we have added a few lines of Peter's clever perl code and
now our pages are WWW/LX-friendly again! Give it a try and let me know if you
have any more problems.

Mitch
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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 13:19:14 -0500
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              "Nestor A. Ramirez" <nestoral@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Small keyboard to plug into 200lx
Comments: To: Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>

Actually the palmtop in Terminator 2 was an Atari Portfolio, a DOS 2.11
compatible machine with an 8-line 40 character display, a minimal note taker
application, a spreadsheet (with Lotus 123 compatible format), a phone book
with tone dialing capability, a modem port/serial printer conection and a
card port for additional memory. The display used a virtual screen so that
you could "pan" over the whole screenful of information in the spreadsheet.
The cost when it came out in 1989 was $499, and it was actually a nifty,
innovative machine at the time.
Greetings.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Sunday, May 03, 1998 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: Small keyboard to plug into 200lx


>BTW I saw Terminator 2 (again) last night - remember the palmtop the kid
>uses to get PINs from an ATM and from the maximum security lab at the
>end? It was branded "Atari", and looked like it had about a 10 line
>screen. The HP200LX kills this device from a science-fiction film.
>
>PS sorry to use the word "kill" so often. I think 3 times is enough.
>
>--
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>Telephone +61 03  990 55194             http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
> 10. "Works well when under constant supervision and cornered like a rat in
a
> trap."
>
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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 20:44:32 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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On Sun, 3 May 1998, Nestor A. Ramirez wrote:

> Actually the palmtop in Terminator 2 was an Atari Portfolio, a DOS 2.11
> compatible machine with an 8-line 40 character display, a minimal note taker
> application, a spreadsheet (with Lotus 123 compatible format), a phone book
> with tone dialing capability, a modem port/serial printer conection and a
> card port for additional memory. The display used a virtual screen so that
> you could "pan" over the whole screenful of information in the spreadsheet.
> The cost when it came out in 1989 was $499, and it was actually a nifty,
> innovative machine at the time.

Sounds very similar to the HP95LX (the 200's predecessor) I think.

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 21:45:28 +0100
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              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Say you have a bunch of 1, 2 and 3 priorities in the to do in the
HP200LX. Is there a way to quickly move an item higher up the list
within a set of items belonging to one priority? For example, say I have
five priority 1 to do's and I want to move the 4th in the list to the
top position. The only way I've been able to do this is to keep on
cutting and pasting the item above the item I want to move up. Cutting
and pasting forces the item to the bottom of the list within the
priority group you're in.

On a related subject, just thought I'd mention how I've set up my to do
list. I have many items in my to do. What I needed was a list showing
just what I have to do "today" and a master list. I've created a today
to do list. A macro changes priority within today's to do's quickly and
easily. My master to do items I keep within the note in a single master
to do item at the bottom. I keep the master to do item at the bottom by
assigning a priority C. Within the note, I have all my master to do's
listed under projects and other subject headings. It's much easier to do
that in a note than trying to come up with diiferent headings in a
conventional list (you run out of priority letters if the list is long).

A macro moves selected text into a today to do. Say there's 4 lines in
the note I want to move. The macro puts the 4 lines into a today note,
then cuts the first line and puts it into the to do box leaving the
other 3 in the note. Say I've got too many items in today's to do. A
macro sends items back into the master to do note leaving the to do and
note selected ready to cut and paste anywhere in the note where I want.

I find this the best way to manage the many to do's I have to organise
every day. It suits my way of working.

The only downside is losing all the content in the master to do not if
you accidentally hit the clear button. Regular back - ups and saving the
note regularly as an ascii file overcomes this.

Regards

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 23:38:25 +0200
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              BOUREK <bourek@MED.MUNI.CZ>
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Hello,
thought this might help people in Europe. I am using a 15$ MASCOT type 9125
power supply (the company is from Norway, I think that their products are
all over Europe, especially in shops that deal with mobile phones). It is a
12V 800mA from 230V AC, the size of credit card, one inch thick, weight 65
grams with line and connector. Have been using it for a year, doesn't even
get warm.

Ales Bourek
bourek@med.muni.cz

lurking on the HPLX List

>>Second if anyone know where to otain cheaply the HP offical adapter F1011A
>> which I'm told is much smaller (credit card size but one inch thick.)
>>
>>Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp

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Peter,
What I do is categorize priorities as A, B, C and D.  A is most important, D is
least.

Within each priority I assign a number - A1, A2, ..., etc., B1, B2, ..., etc.,
C1, C2, ..., etc.

Based on this, the database sorts priorities is follows:

  A
  A1
  A2
  A3
  B
  B1
  B2
  C
  C1
  C2
  C3
  C4
  D
  D1

I think this will fit your needs?


Michael Stocker
mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm
PO Box 256, Canal Fulton, Ohio 44614-0256, USA

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| From: Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
| To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
| Subject: Moving to do's within same priority
| Date: Sunday, May 03, 1998 4:45 PM
|
| Say you have a bunch of 1, 2 and 3 priorities in the to do in the
| HP200LX. Is there a way to quickly move an item higher up the list
| within a set of items belonging to one priority? For example, say I have
| five priority 1 to do's and I want to move the 4th in the list to the
| top position. The only way I've been able to do this is to keep on
| cutting and pasting the item above the item I want to move up. Cutting
| and pasting forces the item to the bottom of the list within the
| priority group you're in.
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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 10:13:36 +1000
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I have recently returned to my 200LX from a PalmPilot professional....

I did like about the PalmPilot
small size
backlight
speed of lookups & find

Did not like about the PalmPilot
reflective screen making it hard to read
inflexibility in address database
poor "repeat" functionality in appointment book
data entry..  poke and pick or Graffiti
poor functionality of world time and database applications
small screen limiting size of data windows


Alastair

Earl T. Benson wrote:

> List readers who have a Palm Pilot  AND  a 100/200lx.  Which do you use
> more?  Why?  Pro and con.
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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 20:56:14 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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I also put a lot of time into trying to "get comfortable" with the Pilot. I
liked a lot of the same things:

Small size
Very fast
Nice global searches
Backlight

I have now fully returned to the 200LX as my speed-upgraded 32MB unit is just
as fast or faster, has scads more storage, a much better database, a much
better calculator, a PCMCIA slot, much better email and web support, better
communication with serial devices of all types, vastly better screen for
viewing graphics, printing support for my IrDA printer (HP 5MP), thousands more
programs to choose from, rechargable battery support, a REAL keyboard with a
NUMERIC keypad, ....

I could go on. There really is no contest.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 20:05:47 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  <199805031231.WAA10996@molly.cs.monash.edu.au> from "Brendan
              Macmillan" at May 3, 98 10:31:28 pm
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> It's a terribly cool idea! :)

Thanks for the complement.

> Kills the portability, though (as you
> imply). This is extreme lateral thinking!

I will confess my poor vocabulary and communications skills... is
"lateral" thinking good or bad?


Well, in my defense (regarding the portability), asking for any kind
of external keyboard by definition offsets the portability of the
palmtop.  I assume this was for desktop applications.

-Chris


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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 19:39:09 -0700
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Anyone else also use a PSION besides their HP. I am just curious to hear
your impressions. You can send them to me if tou don't want to post to
this list.

Thanks

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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 19:41:53 -0700
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              RB <bueker@SONOMA.EDU>
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I went to check out the maps, which are great. But, i was really
impressed by the depth and scope of the database files that were there.
I STRONGLY recommend that you check em out. I hope more people post some
there. I will if I create any other than the usually personal ones i
use.

Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> I must say that "The LXMap Collection" is a great idea on the SUPER pages
>         http://www.palmtop.net/lxmap.html
>
> There's 16 maps there so far...

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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 22:48:43 EDT
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I've tried a few Win CE units (Velo & HP 360lx), Psion, have tried to like and
enjoy each one, but have ended up returning each one and coming back to the HP
200LX.

Just wish the 200LX had a backlight, and a little biger screen.

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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 23:13:31 -0400
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Where was that place with classifieds for used 200/100lx's?
TIA

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Date:         Sun, 3 May 1998 22:26:03 -0500
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              Mike Goggin <mikeg@WANS.NET>
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This isn't really a solution, but it is an easier way to do what you're
already doing, namely moving an item to the end of that priority.

Instead of cut and paste, press: enter, right arrow, F10.  This opens
the item, "changes" it, and closes it again.


-----Original Message-----
From:   Michael Stocker SMTP:mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM
Sent:   Sunday, May 03, 1998 7:00 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: Moving to do's within same priority

Peter,
What I do is categorize priorities as A, B, C and D.  A is most
important, D is
least.

Within each priority I assign a number - A1, A2, ..., etc., B1, B2,
..., etc.,
C1, C2, ..., etc.

Based on this, the database sorts priorities is follows:

  A
  A1
  A2
  A3
  B
  B1
  B2
  C
  C1
  C2
  C3
  C4
  D
  D1

I think this will fit your needs?


Michael Stocker
mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm
PO Box 256, Canal Fulton, Ohio 44614-0256, USA

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| From: Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
| To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
| Subject: Moving to do's within same priority
| Date: Sunday, May 03, 1998 4:45 PM
|
| Say you have a bunch of 1, 2 and 3 priorities in the to do in the
| HP200LX. Is there a way to quickly move an item higher up the list
| within a set of items belonging to one priority? For example, say I
have
| five priority 1 to do's and I want to move the 4th in the list to the
| top position. The only way I've been able to do this is to keep on
| cutting and pasting the item above the item I want to move up.
Cutting
| and pasting forces the item to the bottom of the list within the
| priority group you're in.
(snip)

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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 01:48:20 -0400
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              Doric Swain <D.Swain@CCHS.USYD.EDU.AU>
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Subject:      Re: Data Acquisition Using 200LX?
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At 03:11 PM 30/04/98 -0400, Michael Stocker wrote:
>I was wondering if any listees have had any experience with using 200LX's for
>multichannel data acquisition?  And/or know of any vendors with products that
>allow 200LXs to do data acquisition through the PCMCIA slot.

I have looked into using the National Instruments DAQ700 (a type 2.1 PC
card) for data acquisition, without success. The problems I ran up against
include:

The HP200lx only support type 2 standard cards, not 2.1
The NI DOS drivers are written for the 286 chip-set or higher, and so don't
work with the HP chip.
Considerable work would be involved in writing the acquisition and storage
software, and I'm not a programmer

I was told that it would be possible to "talk" to the card at the registry
level, but again I don't know enough about programming, and I can't "con"
anyone else to do it for me. You may also need to look at the current draw
of any card you decide to use - the HP just squeezes in (I think it's
130mAmp).

I would be interested to see other responses to this.
>
>Also, I am looking to dump the acquired data into Lotus 123 for analysis and
>report generation.

If you can get the data to an Ascii file, you're set.

Doric

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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 16:24:13 +1000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Tim Pitman <ptmail@DIVERSION.COM>
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I'd like to connect my palmtop to my desktop computer so that I can use
internet applications on the palmtop (nettamer, www/lx etc) through the
desktop's internet connection (which is over a lan)

I saw a web article once explaining how to do this with ppp and the Windows
95 dail-up networking server.  I've tried it, and the server asks for a
modem diver. (obviously not required for a direct serial cable connection

Any sudgestions?

Tim Pitman

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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 04:23:23 -0400
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              Ron Schuck <nite_owl@FRONTIERNET.NET>
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To many computers, and to few hands. Its time to make a decision and
unfortunately the HP200LX is the one to go. I have for sale a mint
condition ( unused, yes unused ) HP200LX. It comes with all the manuals,
registration card etc ( still shrinkwrapped ). Included along with the
unit, I also have an unopened software program Intellisync by Puma
complete with the serial cable, also an extra serial cable ( still in
its package ) and two ( 2 ) unused 40 Meg PCMCIA ATA Cards by IBM for
the unit. ( they are also still in the original boxes ).  I got the
system about 4 months ago and just have not ever gotten around to using
it.

I would like to sell the entire package together, and am first posting
it to this list before I post it on the various newsgroups. I will
accept offers for a few days and the highest bid will have the system.

Thank you for taking the interest in reading this message.

Ron

e-mail  nite_owl@frontiernet.net

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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 05:51:55 -0400
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Is there a way to find out, where code starts in EXM files?
Or even better, is there a utiliy to convert EXM to EXE, just
the reverse of the EXE to EXM from the SDK?

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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 05:44:37 -0500
Reply-To:     Greg Lolley <vette66@entercomp.com>
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I have just began using ABCLX to charge a set of RS Nmhd batteries on my
200/32mb x2 machine and I keep getting the following message when I start
ABCLX,  "unable to allocate memory in XBRAM. Anyone else having same problem
or info on XBRAM?

Many thanks
Greg Lolley
Enterprise Alabama

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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 07:57:37 EDT
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Hi Ron,

How much RAM does it have and what is your price?

Thanks,

Robin
email:  RGBROWN@aol.com


In a message dated 98-05-04 04:37:41 EDT, you write:

> To many computers, and to few hands. Its time to make a decision and
>  unfortunately the HP200LX is the one to go. I have for sale a mint
>  condition ( unused, yes unused ) HP200LX. It comes with all the manuals,
>  registration card etc ( still shrinkwrapped ). Included along with the
>  unit, I also have an unopened software program Intellisync by Puma
>  complete with the serial cable, also an extra serial cable ( still in
>  its package ) and two ( 2 ) unused 40 Meg PCMCIA ATA Cards by IBM for
>  the unit. ( they are also still in the original boxes ).  I got the
>  system about 4 months ago and just have not ever gotten around to using
>  it.
>
>  I would like to sell the entire package together, and am first posting
>  it to this list before I post it on the various newsgroups. I will
>  accept offers for a few days and the highest bid will have the system.
>
>  Thank you for taking the interest in reading this message.
>
>  Ron
>

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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 08:17:48 -0500
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On Sat, May 02, 1998 at 02:29:32PM -0400, Joseph Casey wrote:
> Earl T. Benson wrote:
>
> > Would like to buy a small keyboard to plug into  my 200lx.  Dont want a
> > fancy keyboard.  Just a small, simple one.
>
> Shier still has the Newton keyboard for the Palmtop for sale even though
> the Newton itself has been discontinued.
>
> Check out http://www.shier.com/Newtkb.html.
>
> I bought one and find it very valuable.
>
> Joe Casey

Just a note to let anyone know that Shier is back ordered on these for
quite some time now (unless they just don't want to sell ME one!).  When
it was announced that Apple wasn't going to make them anymore Shier
apparently had a run on them and ran out.   I'm number 13 on the list.
Don't know how long the list is.

jaime
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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 09:37:43 -0400
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Is there any kind soul out there running Word 5.0 and/or Works 2.0 on a
palmtop who has appropriate SCREEN.VIDs?

I don't have the Setup utilities for these, so I'm stuck with the default
B&W text screen with no way to take advantage of the palmtop's four shades
of gray or graphics mode for Print Preview. (Other than that, they both run
great!)

If you've got a good SCREEN.VID, please e-mail it to me. Also, if you've
got good icons for either Word 5.0 or Works 2.0 I'd be grateful for those
too!

Thanks in advance!

P.S.   If anyone else on the list is looking for these, e-mail me and I'll
pass along whatever I get.

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If anyone is looking for a stand-alone spell-checker and thesaurus, I
recently unearthed a copy of IBM Word Proof 1.00 dating back to 1983!
It works great on a palmtop. It's about 325K including the 80,000 word list
and synonym list. You can easily add your own words to it, too. You can
also manually edit a text file you've loaded, so it's good for banging out
batch files, .sys files, e-mail messages and the like.
One curious hitch: You have to move a file its directory, or else it can't
find it to load it. Could it be this thing was written before DOS 2.11 (the
first DOS that allowed directories)?
E-mail me if you'd like to see it ...for evaluation purposes only, of course.
;-)

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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 09:26:02 -0500
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Hi Bruce!
   Hope you aren't getting too many responses, but me too!
I'd like to evaluate the spell checker.
Bryan


Bruce Martin wrote:

> If anyone is looking for a stand-alone spell-checker and thesaurus, I
> recently unearthed a copy of IBM Word Proof 1.00 dating back to 1983!
> It works great on a palmtop. It's about 325K including the 80,000 word list
> and synonym list. You can easily add your own words to it, too. You can
> also manually edit a text file you've loaded, so it's good for banging out
> batch files, .sys files, e-mail messages and the like.
> One curious hitch: You have to move a file its directory, or else it can't
> find it to load it. Could it be this thing was written before DOS 2.11 (the
> first DOS that allowed directories)?
> E-mail me if you'd like to see it ...for evaluation purposes only, of course.
> ;-)
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:-) Of course, only for evaluation purposes! Please. :-)

tia

Have a nice day!

Franklin


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From: Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>
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Date: 4. mai 1998 15:58
Subject: Found a spell-checker/thesaurus


>If anyone is looking for a stand-alone spell-checker and thesaurus, I
>recently unearthed a copy of IBM Word Proof 1.00 dating back to 1983!
>It works great on a palmtop. It's about 325K including the 80,000 word list
>and synonym list. You can easily add your own words to it, too. You can
>also manually edit a text file you've loaded, so it's good for banging out
>batch files, .sys files, e-mail messages and the like.
>One curious hitch: You have to move a file its directory, or else it can't
>find it to load it. Could it be this thing was written before DOS 2.11 (the
>first DOS that allowed directories)?
>E-mail me if you'd like to see it ...for evaluation purposes only, of
course.
>;-)
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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 10:30:04 -0400
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Bruce,

I would appreciate a copy.

Thanks.

Michael Stocker
mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm
PO Box 256, Canal Fulton, Ohio 44614-0256, USA

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| From: Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>
| To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
| Subject: Found a spell-checker/thesaurus
| Date: Monday, May 04, 1998 9:45 AM
|
| If anyone is looking for a stand-alone spell-checker and thesaurus, I
| recently unearthed a copy of IBM Word Proof 1.00 dating back to 1983!
| It works great on a palmtop. It's about 325K including the 80,000 word list
| and synonym list. You can easily add your own words to it, too. You can
| also manually edit a text file you've loaded, so it's good for banging out
| batch files, .sys files, e-mail messages and the like.
| One curious hitch: You have to move a file its directory, or else it can't
| find it to load it. Could it be this thing was written before DOS 2.11 (the
| first DOS that allowed directories)?
| E-mail me if you'd like to see it ...for evaluation purposes only, of course.
| ;-)
|
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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 09:20:43 +0100
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MIchael, I've used this before but it doesn't really help.My problem is
that in a busy day (like every day!), I want to be able to see the top
two or three items in the top priority. So evem if I used you A and A1
system and say had 5 A1's, I'd like to be able to lift the three most
urgent A1's to the top so I could get those out of the way first. My old
Omnigo had the ability to drag items around but the HP200LX of course
doesn't have this feature....I wish it did.

I think the only way is the repeated cut & paste method I described in
my mail.

Regards

Peter

In message <894239966.0514525.0@akron4.neo.lrun.com>, Michael Stocker
<mdstockr@neo.lrun.com> writes
>Peter,
>What I do is categorize priorities as A, B, C and D.  A is most important, D is
>least.
>
>Within each priority I assign a number - A1, A2, ..., etc., B1, B2, ..., etc.,
>C1, C2, ..., etc.
>
>Based on this, the database sorts priorities is follows:
>
>  A
>  A1
>  A2
>  A3
>  B
>  B1
>  B2
>  C
>  C1
>  C2
>  C3
>  C4
>  D
>  D1
>
>I think this will fit your needs?
>
>
>Michael Stocker
>mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
>http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm
>PO Box 256, Canal Fulton, Ohio 44614-0256, USA
>
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>| From: Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
>| To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>| Subject: Moving to do's within same priority
>| Date: Sunday, May 03, 1998 4:45 PM
>|
>| Say you have a bunch of 1, 2 and 3 priorities in the to do in the
>| HP200LX. Is there a way to quickly move an item higher up the list
>| within a set of items belonging to one priority? For example, say I have
>| five priority 1 to do's and I want to move the 4th in the list to the
>| top position. The only way I've been able to do this is to keep on
>| cutting and pasting the item above the item I want to move up. Cutting
>| and pasting forces the item to the bottom of the list within the
>| priority group you're in.
>(snip)

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 11:36:31 -0500
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Put me on the list of copies.
Tony Guzewicz

Bruce Martin wrote:

> If anyone is looking for a stand-alone spell-checker and thesaurus, I
> recently unearthed a copy of IBM Word Proof 1.00 dating back to 1983!
> It works great on a palmtop. It's about 325K including the 80,000 word list
> and synonym list. You can easily add your own words to it, too. You can
> also manually edit a text file you've loaded, so it's good for banging out
> batch files, .sys files, e-mail messages and the like.
> One curious hitch: You have to move a file its directory, or else it can't
> find it to load it. Could it be this thing was written before DOS 2.11 (the
> first DOS that allowed directories)?
> E-mail me if you'd like to see it ...for evaluation purposes only, of course.
> ;-)
>
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Delete the following files from your Works directory if you have them
installed:

worksone.scn, worksone.ctx, worksone.sob
workstwo.scn, workstwo.ctx, workstwo.sob
worksthr.scn, worksthr.ctx, worksthr.sob

Then the B&W and LCD settings will appear under the Screen Color settings
menu in Works.

HTH

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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 14:06:59 -0400
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              "Joseph K. Hwang" <joseph.hwang@YALE.EDU>
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May I have a copy as well?

>Bruce Martin wrote:
>
>> If anyone is looking for a stand-alone spell-checker and thesaurus, I
>> recently unearthed a copy of IBM Word Proof 1.00 dating back to 1983!
>> It works great on a palmtop. It's about 325K including the 80,000 word list
>> and synonym list. You can easily add your own words to it, too. You can
>> also manually edit a text file you've loaded, so it's good for banging out
>> batch files, .sys files, e-mail messages and the like.
>> One curious hitch: You have to move a file its directory, or else it can't
>> find it to load it. Could it be this thing was written before DOS 2.11 (the
>> first DOS that allowed directories)?
>> E-mail me if you'd like to see it ...for evaluation purposes only, of
>>course.
>> ;-)
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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 11:16:48 -0700
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Mitch, good stuff on the Super SUPER page and WWW/LX!
i am forwarding this to Andreas too (even though he is a
lurker here - just in case!)

Thanks to you and Peter!

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 15:38:10 -0400
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Since there has been some discussion recently about DOS for the Windows=
/CE
devices I think this information isn't too far off base.  At the bottom=
 of
Everett Kaser's site at http://kaser.com is this offer:  "Freeware comm=
and
prompt for Windows CE Handheld computers, includes source code and exec=
utables."

I don't have a CE device so I don't have any way to investigate this fu=
rther.

Cheers...
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On Mon, 4 May 1998, Russel Brooks wrote:

> Since there has been some discussion recently about DOS for the
> Windows/CE devices I think this information isn't too far off base.  At
> the bottom of Everett Kaser's site at http://kaser.com is this offer:
> "Freeware command prompt for Windows CE Handheld computers, includes
> source code and executables."
>
> I don't have a CE device so I don't have any way to investigate this
> further. Cheers...  Russ Brooks

From what I understand, this is just a command-shell kind of interface,
not an actual DOS emulator.  Ian Dean's XT-CE at
http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk is a real DOS emulator for the WinCE
devices, though.
--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 22:18:57 +0200
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I recently bought a Psion series 5 although I have been (and still am) a
very fond HP100LX user for almost 4 years now.

The Psion is BY FAR the best PDA on the market, much better than ALL those
Win CE units.

Here are its main advantages:

- proper keyboard (there's no way you can really touch-type on any of the
WinCE machines)
- fast interface (faster than those 80MHz units)
- small and light (can still fit in a real pocket) (especially when
compared with those HP and Sharp color units...)
- very intuitive GUI
- very successful sales all around the world (except maybe in the US...)
which means lots of prgs and extensive support (go surf the web and you'll
see)
- full compatibility with the most current PC and Mac SW
- offers exactly the same functionalities as any Win CE unit plus lots of
add-ons and goodies that make this machine very  user-friendly.
- EPOC 32 becoming some sort of standard (see those EPOC compatible units
that came out recently...)


OK, no color, but what's the big deal, since the display is clear enough...
You're not going to process high resolution color photographs with your
PDA, that's far beyond its primary use.

Honestly, I've tried all the latest WinCE PDAs and I would be interested to
hear some comments from the people saying that the Psion 32 is not worth
considering...

I still use my HP100LX, I still think it is superior to all those Win CE
machines, but I had to admit that the Psion 5 was a bit ahead... So take my
word for it, go Psion 5 and you won't regret it !


The Pilot units are good alternatives, but I think they are only suitable
for people who don't need to input lots of data. Otherwise they're great !!
Think about the Rex as well...


At 19:39 03/05/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Anyone else also use a PSION besides their HP. I am just curious to hear
>your impressions. You can send them to me if tou don't want to post to
>this list.
>
>Thanks
>
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8> If anyone is looking for a stand-alone spell-checker and thesaurus, I

I am sure I could evaluate this software thoroughly!

Thanks, Darren

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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 16:02:47 -0600
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> - proper keyboard (there's no way you can really touch-type on any of the
> WinCE machines)

I don't have a PSION, nor have I tried one.  But I owned a 360LX for
a few weeks, and was able to touch type on it with great ease!  It
was far superior in this respect to my 200LX.  But alas, it had so
many negative aspects that I returned it and gone back to my trusty
200LX.  I even bought a new spare one to have on hand when/if mine
wears out.

-Chris Lott


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I don't know if this suggestion will be good for anyone, but I thought
I'd just suggest it in case someone could benefit.

I have about 100 to-do's... initially I had them all in the Todo list
in the Appt manager. This was a drag on the system, though, as each of
them were being copied to the next day on every new day.

To alleviate this, I made a master list, too. But instead, my master
list of todo's is stored in the Appt Manager Todo list on the date
1/1/2011... or for short, 1/1/11 when you enter the date into appt
manager using the Goto (F5) function. A couple of macros shuffles them
back and forth between the current day and the master todo list day.

This prevents the massive copy over night for all of the todo's on
yesterdays list, and still allows me to use the same priority field.

BTW, I use the priorty field in this fashion:

Priority prefixes of B are for Business (Work), P are for my own
business (Par Computer Solutions, Inc.), O is for Other (Personal).

I suffix the priority with a number for importance.

When I really want a mandatory list for the current day, I will change
the priority to the following:

  10  DO THIS MORNING!!!
  20  DO BEFORE THE END OF THE BUSINESS DAY!!!
  35  Do during lunch.
  40  DO THIS AFTERNOON!!!
  70  Do after the end of the business day, but before I retire for
the evening.

I manage all of my priorities over coffee and the occasional
breakfast, and have a final list before I start rolling for the day.

Hope this helps someone 8).

---Michael Stocker <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM> wrote:
>
> Peter,
> What I do is categorize priorities as A, B, C and D.  A is most
important, D is
> least.
>
> Within each priority I assign a number - A1, A2, ..., etc., B1, B2,
..., etc.,
> C1, C2, ..., etc.
>
> Based on this, the database sorts priorities is follows:
>
>   A
>   A1
>   A2
>   A3
>   B
>   B1
>   B2
>   C
>   C1
>   C2
>   C3
>   C4
>   D
>   D1
>
> I think this will fit your needs?
>
>

snip

> ----------
> | From: Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
> | To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> | Subject: Moving to do's within same priority
> | Date: Sunday, May 03, 1998 4:45 PM
> |
> | Say you have a bunch of 1, 2 and 3 priorities in the to do in the
> | HP200LX. Is there a way to quickly move an item higher up the list
> | within a set of items belonging to one priority? For example, say
I have
> | five priority 1 to do's and I want to move the 4th in the list to
the
> | top position. The only way I've been able to do this is to keep on
> | cutting and pasting the item above the item I want to move up.
Cutting
> | and pasting forces the item to the bottom of the list within the
> | priority group you're in.

snip


==
Mark J. Jordan
Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA

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Peter Maddern wrote:

> MIchael, I've used this before but it doesn't really help.My problem
> is
> that in a busy day (like every day!), I want to be able to see the top
>
> two or three items in the top priority. So evem if I used you A and A1
>
> system and say had 5 A1's <SNIPPSH!!>>

Peter,

You can have priorities form 0 - 99; 100 in total.  So a little
pre-prioritising when you prioritise will make a 100% difference.

A, B, C and 1, 2 works well, but on my 200 all below _ten_ is A1, A2 etc
(must do) with my 0 an immediate todo or sooner. B starts with 20 etc
etc...

It took me a while to get into the swing of this, but now it works
great...for me!

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Peter,

My guess is that you are assigning too many A1's.  If you reserve A1 for just
the things that HAVE to be done before lunch, and A2 for just those things
which have to be done before breakfast tomorrow, you shouldn't have too big of
a problem -- unless, of course, you have too big of a job.

Are you mixing tasks with projects?  An A1 might be Return The Boss's Call
About My Promotion.  An A1 would NOT be Make The World Safe For Democracy,
even if Making the World Safe is more important, and can be accomplished by
the middle of next week.  Making the World Safe would possibly be B1, if
that's where you put the important things which can't be done immediately.

If you have 10 minutes to spare, its easy to scan the A's, before you decide
on a quick game of Solitary, but there is no point in looking at the B's,
since you can't make any progress on them in that time.

Generally, I'm no fan of Steven Covey (7 Habits of Highly Annally Retentive
People) but he does get this concept right.

Cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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On Mon, 4 May 1998 01:48:20 -0400, you wrote:

You could use an external Campbell Scientific Data logger "CR7 or
CR21"  with its own power supply for your sensor devices etc... This
data logger can run stand alone without the need of a LX200. It would
probably be more accurate than anything you can hook into your LX.=20

You can download the data with the built in terminal and easily
integrate it into Lotus 123. You'd only use your LX200 for data
storage or  interpretation etc.=20

>At 03:11 PM 30/04/98 -0400, Michael Stocker wrote:
>>I was wondering if any listees have had any experience with using =
200LX's for
>>multichannel data acquisition?  And/or know of any vendors with =
products that
>>allow 200LXs to do data acquisition through the PCMCIA slot.
>
>I have looked into using the National Instruments DAQ700 (a type 2.1 PC
>card) for data acquisition, without success. The problems I ran up =
against
>include:
>
>The HP200lx only support type 2 standard cards, not 2.1
>The NI DOS drivers are written for the 286 chip-set or higher, and so =
don't
>work with the HP chip.
>Considerable work would be involved in writing the acquisition and =
storage
>software, and I'm not a programmer
>
>I was told that it would be possible to "talk" to the card at the =
registry
>level, but again I don't know enough about programming, and I can't =
"con"
>anyone else to do it for me. You may also need to look at the current =
draw
>of any card you decide to use - the HP just squeezes in (I think it's
>130mAmp).
>
>I would be interested to see other responses to this.
>>
>>Also, I am looking to dump the acquired data into Lotus 123 for =
analysis and
>>report generation.
>
>If you can get the data to an Ascii file, you're set.
>
>Doric
>
>                                      O__
>Doric Swain                           /\ \
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>ph:Australia (02) 935-19073            ////
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>I was wondering if any listees have had any experience with using 200LX's for
>multichannel data acquisition?  And/or know of any vendors with products that
>allow 200LXs to do data acquisition through the PCMCIA slot.
>
>Also, I am looking to dump the acquired data into Lotus 123 for analysis and
>report generation.

What occurrs to me is that with the ease of development and availability of
the 'simple' microproccessor packages like the Parallax Basic Stamp, and
the various motorola packages (all of which have serial ports) it'd be easy
to set up data accquisition using the serial port and a relatively
inelegant use of dtatcomm...
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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 22:07:47 -0800
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On 1998-05-01 melancon@PRYSM.NET said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >David,
   >I'm copying this reply to the group in case anybody else is
   >confused. (for everybody else this is about the DataPerfect database
   >program available at:
   >http://www.sanbachs.com/compusofl/download.html)
   >I downloaded them all - and if you decide you will use the program
   >you will probably download all of them as well.  DPTUTOR.ZIP will
   >give you a tutorial to see what the program looks like and a little
   >bit of what it can do.
   >To write your own apps you MUST have DPPROG.ZIP which has the 2

snip

What language do you write apps in? Is it propietary? Can you use Xbase
or SQL?



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Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Registered

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On 1998-05-01 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Coincidentally, I was in Service Merchandise (NC) this morning and
   >picked up a genuine HP F1011A Adapter for $9.80 on clearance.
   >Fantastic price.
   >Patrick West wrote:
   >> The FAQ, which is slightly old states that a Radio Shack Cat no.
   >>273-1652b  seems to work. It is only rated at 600mA ...
snip

I ordered it from  service merch about a month ago. They have an 800
number (call 800 555 1212 to find it). it can to about $12 with
shipping.
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I've tried PalmPilot 5000 and Professional.  IMHO those units
are really good "tools" if you need "Personal Info Manager"
and something that you can "play" with.

Some pros:
+ Backlight (Pilot Pro);
+ Small (fits in your shirt pocket), simple (you don't
  need to open any latch), and light;
+ Easy & true synchronizing between unit & desktop(s);
+ Fully compatible PC software (runs under Win/Win95);
+ Simple but useful ToDo function with very functional
  ToDo printout;
+ The "global search" function is fast & handy;
+ Easy to use (very user-friendly);
+ Software installation is easy (plenty of software out there!);
+ Numerous interesting games can be downloaded from the Internet;
+ Have trendy & futuristic look.

Some cons:
- No keyboard.  You either pick characters or write
  one character at a time using the stylus;
- Good database is not yet available;
- Spreadsheet is not as powerful as Lotus 1-2-3;
- Small screen;
- AAA battery instead of AA.

I have a feeling that PalmPilot will be my next palmtop,
unless my HPLX get a backlight & 32MB upgrade ...

Cheers,
Sentot

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Has anyone tried interfacing the two?  i mean, as far as i know, the
pilot's 'cradle' hooks up via serial port.

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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 10:34:16 -0700
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Joseph K. Hwang wrote:
>
> May I have a copy as well?
>
> >Bruce Martin wrote:
> >
> >> If anyone is looking for a stand-alone spell-checker and thesaurus, I
> >> recently unearthed a copy of IBM Word Proof 1.00 dating back to 1983!
> >> It works great on a palmtop. It's about 325K including the 80,000 word list
> >> and synonym list. You can easily add your own words to it, too. You can
> >> also manually edit a text file you've loaded, so it's good for banging out
> >> batch files, .sys files, e-mail messages and the like.
> >> One curious hitch: You have to move a file its directory, or else it can't
> >> find it to load it. Could it be this thing was written before DOS 2.11 (the
> >> first DOS that allowed directories)?
> >> E-mail me if you'd like to see it ...for evaluation purposes only, of
> >>course.
> >> ;-)
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> **************************
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I would appreciate a copy.  Thanks.

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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 22:43:40 -0500
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Has anybody got a utility that will unarchive a .arc file? Maybe something
streamlined and compact that will work well on the LX? Thanks in advance!

Jeff


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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 00:35:53 -0400
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Iwould like to trade a perfect omnibook 300 for a 200lx.
the ob has 2 meg ram about 7 megs rom with windows3.1 and dos 6.2 in rom.
40 meg hard drive ac adaptor runs on AA cells. This laptop looks brand new
and I am trading because I have upgraded to a 530 omnibook.
thanks
mike

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> On 1998-05-01 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
>    >Coincidentally, I was in Service Merchandise (NC) this morning and
>    >picked up a genuine HP F1011A Adapter for $9.80 on clearance.
>    >Fantastic price.
>    >Patrick West wrote:
>    >> The FAQ, which is slightly old states that a Radio Shack Cat no.
>    >>273-1652b  seems to work. It is only rated at 600mA ...
> snip
>
> I ordered it from  service merch about a month ago. They have an 800
> number (call 800 555 1212 to find it). it can to about $12 with
> shipping.
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>
> I ordered it from  service merch about a month ago. They have an 800
> number (call 800 555 1212 to find it). it can to about $12 with
> shipping.

I got mine from Service Merchandise in Turnersville, NJ for $10 and
change... call first, I didn't see any others on the shelf. BTW, they are
clearing out the 200lx 2mef for $299.

Darren.

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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 13:49:45 +0800
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Hi Lists,

Can someone please advise how to create a partition on a 64mb flash disk.
I've tried fdisk100 but it does not work.

Any suggestions appreciated.

TIA

J H Chin

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     Hello!

     Can some tell me how do i convert the file of the phone list to a text
     file and how do i convert a text file i have to the format of the
     phone list of the 200lx

     Thanks Yehuda.

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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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On Mon, 4 May 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Has anybody got a utility that will unarchive a .arc file? Maybe something
> streamlined and compact that will work well on the LX? Thanks in advance!
>

From Garbo:

arce40g.zip 9397 Apr 12 1991
Arce v4.0g; V. Buerg's fast extraction pgm

ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/arcers/arce40g.zip


I've used it several times on my desktop PC and it works just great. I see
no reason why it shouldn't work on the LX.

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 20:02:12 +1000
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Puma's Intellisync will do it for you...  or if you are running w3.11 or W95
you can use HP's PC connectivity software

Puma is at http://www.pumatech.com/intellisync_hp.html

J S wrote:

>      Hello!
>
>      Can some tell me how do i convert the file of the phone list to a text
>      file and how do i convert a text file i have to the format of the
>      phone list of the 200lx
>
>      Thanks Yehuda.
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> ----------
> From:         Ron SchuckSMTP:nite_owl@FRONTIERNET.NET
> Sent:         04 May 1998 09:23
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:      FS: HP200LX Plus Accessories
>
> To many computers, and to few hands. Its time to make a decision and
> unfortunately the HP200LX is the one to go. I have for sale a mint
> condition ( unused, yes unused ) HP200LX. It comes with all the manuals,
> registration card etc ( still shrinkwrapped ). Included along with the
> unit, I also have an unopened software program Intellisync by Puma
> complete with the serial cable, also an extra serial cable ( still in
> its package ) and two ( 2 ) unused 40 Meg PCMCIA ATA Cards by IBM for
> the unit. ( they are also still in the original boxes ).  I got the
> system about 4 months ago and just have not ever gotten around to using
> it.
>
> I would like to sell the entire package together, and am first posting
> it to this list before I post it on the various newsgroups. I will
> accept offers for a few days and the highest bid will have the system.
>
> Thank you for taking the interest in reading this message.
>
> Ron
>
> e-mail  nite_owl@frontiernet.net
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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 15:41:24 +0930
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Hi Bruce,

I would like a chance at evaluating that spell-checker / thesaurus.

by the way, do you know another word for thesaurus?

.....Malcolm

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Date:         Mon, 4 May 1998 15:47:26 +0930
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Hi Ron,

I use a HP100 lx and would love to upgrade to a 200 2meg unit but there's
not much chance of that where I live in South Australia. I would, however be
interested in how much you get for your unit if it's not too personal to
ask.

catch ya later,

.....Malcolm

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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 07:33:29 -0600
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Un-arc?
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ARC was one of the earlier data compression programs, like PKZIP is
now.  We used it all the time, before PKZIP came along.   I think
it's ironic to see the ARC files stored in a ZIP archive!

> arce40g.zip 9397 Apr 12 1991
> Arce v4.0g; V. Buerg's fast extraction pgm
>
> ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/arcers/arce40g.zip


-Chris Lott


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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 22:27:37 +1400
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              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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>  E-mail me if you'd like to see it ...for evaluation purposes only, of course
;-)

May I have a copy as well?

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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 08:07:05 -0500
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Sync software included with the Pilot is for Win3.1/Win95.

James Scheffler wrote:

> Has anyone tried interfacing the two?  i mean, as far as i know, the
> pilot's 'cradle' hooks up via serial port.
>

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I use www.dejanews.com, which collects from many newsgroups.
I use the powersearch, as it lets me specify just the last xx
days,
and can show 100 at a time. Then something like this search:
  (fs or sale) and (100lx or 200lx)
will find less than 100 msgs. You may want to ignore foreign
ads
(eg, sg.xxx.... Singapore,  hk.xx.....  Hong Kong) as they
won't
be denominated in $.

I use dejanews for web searches on many topics, eg:,
  faq and rechargeable and batteries
I find lots of good links in a hurry.

My least favorite is
   www.energizer.com
It has ZERO information, even less than the TV bunny ads.

Jonathan Gates wrote:

> Where was that place with classifieds for used 200/100lx's?
> TIA
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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 14:58:29 +0100
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Does my memory deceive me, or do I remember seeing a utility somewhere to
display the appointment book in a 'better' weekly format than the built-in
'vertical' slot per day??  I've looked in what I consider to be all the
'normal' archives...
TIA for any help
best regds
jez

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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 10:17:24 -0400
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On Mon, 4 May 1998 09:26:02 -0500
BDK Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
Whew! I got 31 e-mail requests for this, and just finished sending them all off.
Maybe someone with some FTP space would like to put it up on the net so everyone
can check it out at will? Let me know if you're willing, and haven't received a
copy of WORDPRF.ZIP...

Cheers, Bruce
bruce_martin@manulife.com

   Hi Bruce!
      Hope you aren't getting too many responses, but me too!
   I'd like to evaluate the spell checker.
   Bryan
   Bruce Martin wrote:
   > If anyone is looking for a stand-alone spell-checker and thesaurus, I
   > recently unearthed a copy of IBM Word Proof 1.00 dating back to 1983!

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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 08:19:07 -0600
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J S wrote:
>
>      Hello!
>
>      Can some tell me how do i convert the file of the phone list to a text
>      file and how do i convert a text file i have to the format of the
>      phone list of the 200lx

Yehuda,

  There is a pair of utils called gdbload and gdbdump that will get you
going.  Look on super for them.

  However, I am trying to deal with some fields in a CSV file
that are not quoted.  Has anyone developed or located a utility that
will take a CSV file and quote each field??  I know it would not be
difficult to write, but I am still working on setting up a development
environment and don't want to re-invent the wheel if I don't have to.

thanks,
john
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CQrp    #15   NJ-QRP #50   AK-QRP    #52    NW-QRP  #454 FISTS #3184
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Date:         Sat, 2 May 1998 06:58:24 -0700
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I recently got NiMh batteries from Mack. They are truly wonderful.
However, I prefer using my external charger. To accomplish this, I
simply soldered a small button on each end of the battery. Now I have
"standard" AA.

Bob

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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 12:33:42 -0400
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Hi All:

     I am looking for a PCMCIA swap box to hook into my W95 desktop
here at the lab. I would be using it for MODEM and FLASH cards. Where
is the best place to purchase one, or does anyone on the list have one
for sale?

Cheers,

*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
*                        |___/
*Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd
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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 12:33:49 -0400
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Hi All again:

     We are coming up on a year since I have taken up the helm of the
HPLX mail list (wow, time flies when your having fun!). I am thinking
about keeping only the past 12 months of list activity in searchable
HTML format. I will keep the ZIPped LOG archives up indefinately.
Does anyone see a need to keep the searchable files up for over 12
months? Or six months for that matter? Let me know your thoughts.

Cheers,

*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 09:48:00 -0700
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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
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Al

www.surplusdirect.com use to have them for about $49.00 I do not know if
the have any more.

Karl


At 12:33 PM 5/5/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi All:
>
>     I am looking for a PCMCIA swap box to hook into my W95 desktop
>here at the lab. I would be using it for MODEM and FLASH cards. Where
>is the best place to purchase one, or does anyone on the list have one
>for sale?
>
>Cheers,
>
>*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
>* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
>*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
>*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
>*                        |___/
>*Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd
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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 11:51:12 -0700
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Could you shoot me a copy also?

Dan

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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 13:06:35 -0700
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Cool I have a 200LX in the box new. It is a spare unit. Lets trade

richard Bueker

MICHAEL K RILEY wrote:
>
> Iwould like to trade a perfect omnibook 300 for a 200lx.
> the ob has 2 meg ram about 7 megs rom with windows3.1 and dos 6.2 in rom.
> 40 meg hard drive ac adaptor runs on AA cells. This laptop looks brand new
> and I am trading because I have upgraded to a 530 omnibook.
> thanks
> mike
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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 13:30:27 -0700
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Unfortunately, Campbell Sci are available only for a significantly
larger price difference. They have pretty limited memory storage and
depending on your requirements are extremely expensive to multiplex.

On the plus side, I can verify that all PC208 software will run ( under
DOS) on an HP.  This is an excellent way to retrieve data from remote
sites if you don't trust you laptop....

I still believe that the HP should have great utility as a PLC or
datalogger. However,  like Doric I haven't found much available on a
PCMCIA card for input to an HP.

Bry

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>From:  Ace FrehleySMTP:alaskan@V-WAVE.COM
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>
>On Mon, 4 May 1998 01:48:20 -0400, you wrote:
>
>You could use an external Campbell Scientific Data logger "CR7 or
>CR21"  with its own power supply for your sensor devices etc... This
>data logger can run stand alone without the need of a LX200. It would
>probably be more accurate than anything you can hook into your LX.
>
>You can download the data with the built in terminal and easily
>integrate it into Lotus 123. You'd only use your LX200 for data
>storage or  interpretation etc.
>
>>At 03:11 PM 30/04/98 -0400, Michael Stocker wrote:
>>>I was wondering if any listees have had any experience with using 200LX's
>>>for
>>>multichannel data acquisition?  And/or know of any vendors with products
>>>that
>>>allow 200LXs to do data acquisition through the PCMCIA slot.
>>
>>I have looked into using the National Instruments DAQ700 (a type 2.1 PC
>>card) for data acquisition, without success. The problems I ran up against
>>include:
>>
>>The HP200lx only support type 2 standard cards, not 2.1
>>The NI DOS drivers are written for the 286 chip-set or higher, and so don't
>>work with the HP chip.
>>Considerable work would be involved in writing the acquisition and storage
>>software, and I'm not a programmer
>>
>>I was told that it would be possible to "talk" to the card at the registry
>>level, but again I don't know enough about programming, and I can't "con"
>>anyone else to do it for me. You may also need to look at the current draw
>>of any card you decide to use - the HP just squeezes in (I think it's
>>130mAmp).
>>
>>I would be interested to see other responses to this.
>>>
>>>Also, I am looking to dump the acquired data into Lotus 123 for analysis
>>>and
>>>report generation.
>>
>>If you can get the data to an Ascii file, you're set.
>>
>>Doric
>>
>>                                      O__
>>Doric Swain                           /\ \
>>D.Swain@cchs.usyd.edu.au             /  \
>>ph:Australia (02) 935-19073            ////
>>fax:Australia(02) 935-19204            \\/
>>mail:POBox 170 Lidcombe Australia 2141 //
>>  http://www.cchs.usyd.edu.au/ESS/swain/doric1.htm
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On Tue, 5 May 1998, Al Kind wrote:

> Does anyone see a need to keep the searchable files up for over 12
> months? Or six months for that matter? Let me know your thoughts.

The really big issues seem to surface from time to time, so any important
topic visited a year ago will have probably been discussed since.  I think
a 12-month cutoff is fine.


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Warning : This has nothing to do with HP LX's

        Sometimes I trade postcards with people I meet on the net. I was raised
in San Francisco and still live nearby to it. If anyone on the list
would like to send me a postcard with a picture featuring their city or
some nearby historic site I will gladly send a postcard of San Francisco
or any desired local landmark (Golden gate bridge, the Tower, wharf,
cable cars, Alcatraz, seal rock, great highway beach, Chinatown,
Japantown, The Cross on mt. davidson, Twin peaks, my favorite nude beach
(just kidding, i wanted to see if you were paying attention), Treasure
Island, Zoo, etc which will be postmarked from S. F.
        Message me directly so we keep this thread off the list. My e-mail is
bueker@sonoma.edu. My address is below if you want to send a card to me
first or e-mail me an address and i will send you one first. As a kid I
collected the reception report cards from shortwave stations also.

If you feel posting this to a dedicated list like this is out of line (
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There is a program on the SUPER site called "Tickler" which will list all your future appointments and events
Regards

Greg Dwyer - gdwyer@melbpc.org.au
PGP public key location - www.nai.com/products/security/public_keys/lookup_key.asp


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I suggest the Simple Technologies www.simpletech.com Simple Station for
$119. The internal version fits in a 3.5" drive bay and comes supplied with
an ISA card. Works great with DOS, Win3.x, 95 or NT 3.51/4.0.
>
Contact me via email if interested.
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Date: Tuesday, May 05, 1998 09:41
Subject: PCMCIA SwapBox


>Hi All:
>
>     I am looking for a PCMCIA swap box to hook into my W95 desktop
>here at the lab. I would be using it for MODEM and FLASH cards. Where
>is the best place to purchase one, or does anyone on the list have one
>for sale?
>
>Cheers,
>
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Dear Lynn,

As always, you give invaluable comments.  Your contributions
to this list are really appreciated.  Well, at least that's
what I feel.

Kind regards,
Sentot AB

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Date: Tuesday, May 05, 1998 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: Moving to do's within same priority


Peter,

snip

Are you mixing tasks with projects?  An A1 might be Return The Boss's Call
About My Promotion.  An A1 would NOT be Make The World Safe For Democracy,
even if Making the World Safe is more important, and can be accomplished by
the middle of next week.  Making the World Safe would possibly be B1, if
that's where you put the important things which can't be done immediately.

If you have 10 minutes to spare, its easy to scan the A's, before you decide
on a quick game of Solitary, but there is no point in looking at the B's,
since you can't make any progress on them in that time.

Generally, I'm no fan of Steven Covey (7 Habits of Highly Annally Retentive
People) but he does get this concept right.

Cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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> Can someone please advise how to create a partition on a 64mb flash =
disk.
> I've tried fdisk100 but it does not work.

I think it cannot be done because the disk is viewed as
removable. (It is, but it is seen as a floppy).

  Avi M. D&A

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Shalom Yehuda:

> Can some tell me how do i convert the file of the phone list to a text
> file and how do i convert a text file i have to the format of the
> phone list of the 200lx

Use the smart clip to print the list out. To import, use
GDBLOAD. You'll need to make the imported list a CDF (comma
delimited file). DBIO is a utility that will help you use
GDBLOAD and GDBDUMP because these have a fairly exotic syntax.

  Avi M. D&A

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The HP100/200LX power supply output is 12VDC 0.75A. Is this a regulated or unregulated power supply?

Regards

Greg Dwyer - gdwyer@melbpc.org.au
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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 22:46:01 -0400
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when you do a full backup of the C:\ drive with PKZIP is it necessary to
use the switches to include system and hidden files? are there
hidden/system files on the HP in C:\?

I am also curious: if you run a full backup from the Appointment book
I assume that the HP shells to DOS to accomplish this. Does this create a
"swap" file that holds the SysMgr? If so, then by including hidden/system
files in your backup, would you also be backing up that "swap" file that
contains the SysMgr that has been created by the shelling?

thanks

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Hi, Tony:
>
I've been in Italy and couldn't respond to your message until now. We are
selling 96MB PCMCIA cards for $495, including shipping. Cards are mfrd by
Kingston and have a lifetime warranty.
>
If interested, please reply by email.
>
Bernie Torbik
Shore Systems
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    Does anyone know where I can buy a 96 meg flash card for around $500.
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I thought I read about some software that would allow you to play
different alarm sounds for different appointments.  I set so many
alarms that it would be nice to know just by the sound how important it
is.  Does anyone recall this?

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> > It's a terribly cool idea! :)
>
> Thanks for the complement.
:)

> > Kills the portability, though (as you
> > imply). This is extreme lateral thinking!
>
> I will confess my poor vocabulary and communications skills... is
> "lateral" thinking good or bad?
It's good! I would never ever have thought of this, because I'd be
looking for portability - but if you want trully proper sized keyboard,
you can't have portability - it is a perfect (and very very cheap) solution.
Hats off to you, sir.

> Well, in my defense (regarding the portability), asking for any kind
> of external keyboard by definition offsets the portability of the
> palmtop.
Quite true, but it's a matter of degree - while carrying the Newton
keyboard around *does* reduce the portability a little, it'd only
be a by a little (I imagine, since I don't have one). The Newton keyboard
is approximately the same size as the hp200lx itself, I think.

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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 22:24:42 -0700
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Subject:      WWW/lx, Goin' Postal vs Nettamer

I was wondering (after reading raves about WWW/lx & Goin' Postal from a
few subscribers on this list) if any of you have used Nettamer, and how
it compares to these other programs.

I have used Nettamer myself, but am unfamiliar with anything else. I do
email & newsgroups daily with it. I have spent some small amount of time
on the web also (mostly in text-only mode). I've noticed some short
comings, but by and large it seems to do a decent job.

I have a 100lx with 2meg. It has not been sped up, and, of course, a
memory upgrade is out of the question. I am using a 14.4k pcmcia modem. I
mention all this on the chance that what might be great on a 2x 6meg
machine running a 28.8k modem might be . . . ah . . . tedious on my
setup.

I haven't downloaded these programs to view them for myself yet. I just
thought I ask first.

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 15:36:26 +1000
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> Whew! I got 31 e-mail requests for this,

>    I'd like to evaluate the spell checker.

I'm not really sure if this is the best thing for me, so I'm looking
forward to reading all these evaluations!! :)

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 15:47:24 +1000
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>
> Actually the palmtop in Terminator 2 was an Atari Portfolio, a DOS 2.11
> compatible machine with an 8-line 40 character display, a minimal note taker
> application, a spreadsheet (with Lotus 123 compatible format), a phone book
> with tone dialing capability, a modem port/serial printer conection and a
> card port for additional memory. The display used a virtual screen so that
> you could "pan" over the whole screenful of information in the spreadsheet.

> The cost when it came out in 1989 was $499, and it was actually a nifty,
> innovative machine at the time.

I didn't mean to dump on it. :)

What happened was, I though "Hey! That looks pretty cool!". Then I looked
at my plamtop and thought "Hey! But I actually own something that is
*even better*!".

Just one of those nice palmtop moments. :)

> >It was branded "Atari", and looked like it had about a 10 line
> >screen. The HP200LX kills this device from a science-fiction film.


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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 23:03:53 -0700
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Al, there is one hidden files in the default C:\_DAT.
ALARM.Q, holding the alarms from apptbook. Maybe also
SETUP.ENV, but I am not sure.

To see them: DIR c:\_DAT\*.* /AH

Also, Software Carousel's resource pool is hidden. If you use
Stacker then the STACKED volume itself is one big giant hidden
file.

You can easily unhide all the files:

d:\dos\attrib -s -h -r *.*

And run this command in any subdire you suspect has a hidden
file.

CHKDSK will also report if it found any hidden files.

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> I was wondering (after reading raves about WWW/lx & Goin' Postal from a
> few subscribers on this list) if any of you have used Nettamer, and how
> it compares to these other programs.

I challenged Jeff J. here to try out WWW/LX Plus and outfitted
him with an evaluation copy. He wrote very warmly about GP,
and I wanted to see what he'd say about WWW/LX Plus. I know he
started and had some work done. But I have not heard in a
week. He mentioned he may be quite busy...

I'd love to see a comparison of all three. We can always learn
something (my company, D&A Software, produced WWW/LX Plus!).

  Avi M. D&A

As I think of it, this may be too much work for one person.
Perhaps three people should stand up. One proponent "champion"
for each product, and then each should try at least one other
product, maybe both, at least some aspects of all three, then
write up one report among them - i.e. each of them gets to
have a hand in the report. This will probably level out
biases, if any, and give each product a good shot, as well as
an opportunity to be scrutinized. Could be fun! <G>... Anyway,
I cannot serve :) - too biased ad I am a vendor anyway :)

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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 23:26:20 -0700
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> I was wondering (after reading raves about WWW/lx & Goin' Postal from a
> few subscribers on this list) if any of you have used Nettamer, and how
> it compares to these other programs.

I am a registered user of Nettamer and the author of Goin' Postal.  The
main reason I started writing GP was because of the awful user interface
in Nettamer.  I really hate to bad-mouth another program, but the
user interface in Nettamer is about as non-intuitive as I've seen.  I
registered it assuming I'd get used to it, but I never did.

> I have used Nettamer myself, but am unfamiliar with anything else. I do
> email & newsgroups daily with it. I have spent some small amount of time
> on the web also (mostly in text-only mode). I've noticed some short
> comings, but by and large it seems to do a decent job.

GP is pure email, no news or web.  It's primary goals are to run on
a 1mb unit, be intuitive, and offer some handy features for a unit
that'll be moved between places with likely different dialing needs.

> I have a 100lx with 2meg. It has not been sped up, and, of course, a
> memory upgrade is out of the question. I am using a 14.4k pcmcia modem. I
> mention all this on the chance that what might be great on a 2x 6meg
> machine running a 28.8k modem might be . . . ah . . . tedious on my
> setup.

GP was designed for my single speed 1mb 100lx.

> I haven't downloaded these programs to view them for myself yet. I just
> thought I ask first.

Download both of them and enjoy!

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 13:18:25 +0000
Reply-To:     Nicholas Chan <ncknight@pacific.net.sg>
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I was thinking, since I got a 2Meg site on home.pacific.net.sg/~ncknight, I might as well :

1.) Get all my oldwarez onto it that many people are looking for. (ie. Win3.0 with Word)
2.) Have a central point for ALL old programs lookers (meaning links to wyn's site and
comports site) in the format of SUPER
3.) Have people with rare gemz like Win2.03 with Word and Excel in shrinkwrap to put
them up for other fellow HPLX guys to use and enjoy.
3.) Learn a bit of HTML in the end. :)

HP200LX-CORP (I couldn't think of anything else) stands for HP200LX-Concern Over
Regulated (read BSA/SPA) Programs.

I am also planning to put up a PMR, a Poor Man's Resource guide for the HP200LX. A
starting point would be how to get POP/NNTP/FTP/*IRC* and so on things in the 200LX
with means of LXTCP v0.8, DOSPPP 0.6 and other things.... I haven't got it up and
running on mine yet, so I will just add the stuff as they come. Other PMR might be on
how to install JAM/Stacker (I use JAM myself, coz I only have a C:, and it appears
Stacker will NOT stack my C:); Many pages seems to have a flippant explaination on
how this is done. I hope to be able to be write a understandable version of the JAM
installation. With Stacker, I hope someone can submit a similar help to the site.

Well, this site might be coming up next week, as I am starting on the text based thing
first, then I will start with the easy part, the oldwarez part. Further from there, I will try to do
my best to learn what the hell are tables. The interesting thing is, I am doing this off the
200LX, no WYSIWYG yet...

Hope I can contribute to the community that have helped me in so many ways I could
have never done so myself. I will post up the progress data again soon.
... Microsoft crawls under Gates. Software crawls under Windows. OS/2!

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 03:04:12 -0400
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> I was wondering (after reading raves about WWW/lx & Goin' Postal from a
> few subscribers on this list) if any of you have used Nettamer, and how
> it compares to these other programs.
>
> I have used Nettamer myself, but am unfamiliar with anything else. I do
> email & newsgroups daily with it. I have spent some small amount of =
time
> on the web also (mostly in text-only mode). I've noticed some short
> comings, but by and large it seems to do a decent job.
>

I used to use nettamer for mail and news, and that was all I had. The web
browsing you have used, so you know about that.

Wwwlx has a very different interface. Nice main view with your selected
mailboxes & newsgroups, and how many msg's are in the in & out boxes for
each, whether they've been sent or read, and other stuff. Seems like a =
PAL
app, with menu's and all.

The web Browser is really much better. I decided it was worth 89 bucks =
after
trying it out even in it's crippled demo state. HV is the html viewer and
it's real nice.

Nettamer is faster getting news and mail.
Wwwlx is a much more beautiful and polished product with a nice browser.
They both take up about the same space, If I recall, Nettamer is
smaller...but wwwlx is more modular.
-both would run nice on a 2 meg machine.

Darren.

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 08:18:32 +0100
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Thanks Greg (and to Dennis who wrote Tickler!)

I had a look at TICKLER but it wasn't the program I saw in my dream.  What
I remember was called WEEK and displayed a weekly view on the palmtop
screen - in a format more like the built-in monthly view but with bigger
boxes for just one week.  A bit like Psion (what's that?) or Lotus
Organizer format.
It's more suited to one or two appointments per day with long descriptions,
than lots of appointments with short descriptions.

For example:

+----------------------------------+---------------------------------+
!Monday                            !Thursday                         !
!*    Wife's birthday              !                                 !
!1pm  Take secretary to lunch      !                                 !
+----------------------------------+---------------------------------+
!Tuesday                           !Friday                           !
!                                  !                                 !
!                                  !                                 !
+----------------------------------+----------------+----------------+
!Wednesday                         !Saturday        !Sunday          !
!                                  !                !                !
!                                  !                !                !
+----------------------------------+----------------+----------------+

Does this ring any bells with anybody? Or if not, who wants to program it?!

I'd find this very useful, 'cos with the limited overview of the week I tend to
work by making a print of the month - this uses a font small enough to get loads
of info into a small box (landscape printed) and I can see what's coming.

(Incidentally, I have never been able to include the Location field when
printing.   Even Tickler didn't include it, and it's an irritation to see from
the print of the month that you have Lunch somewhere but it doesn't say where...
Have I missed something?)

TIA
Jez

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Date:    06/05/98 00:26


There is a program on the SUPER site called "Tickler" which will list all your f
ure appointments and events
Regards

Greg Dwyer - gdwyer@melbpc.org.au

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 17:03:56 +1000
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Peter,

Similar to what Michael suggested but I group within broad "action" areas,
with a general group called DO for those things that haven't as yet been
broken done into actionable steps. viz

A*************************DO (this acts as a header)
A1 Check Rewards programmes
A1 Order from RAM (all the stuff I have to order would be in a note)
A9 Words to look up (again in a note)
C**********************PHONE CALLS (header again)
C1 Evelyn
C4 Johanna re drinks
C9 Melissa re 15/16 off
D***********************DELEGATED (header again)
D1 Hamish (details in a note)
L***********************LETTERS, FAX,E-MAIL (header again)
L1 Bruce Pierce
L1 Fax Lachlan
L5 Clare timetable
L5 Merryn timetable
P***********************PROGRESS
P1 Roche re "Emergency Rapid Reference" (for things I've actioned but now
dependent on them)
V***********************VISIT
V1 Brett's rooms re computer
V1 Deirdre Brown re computer
V1Terry Mullaney
V2 Charlie - CVA
V9 Michael Anderton re Power Point
Z0***********************COMPLETED

all the things marked as completed will end up here.

I find this a useful way of doing things because I like to group action
things. ie it's more effective for me to do all my phone calls at once or
write my letters together rather than 1 phone call / letter etc.

Hope this helps. Regards, Crombie Redd

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 17:44:55 +1000
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Flexpad is what you are after. I think S.U.P.E.R has it. Cheers.

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Thanks from all 31 of us!

        Richard Bueker


Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> > Whew! I got 31 e-mail requests for this,
>
> >    I'd like to evaluate the spell checker.
>
> I'm not really sure if this is the best thing for me, so I'm looking
> forward to reading all these evaluations!! :)

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 05:24:53 -0400
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->Anyway,
->I cannot serve :) - too biased and I am a vendor anyway :)

Yes, but as a vendor of one, and a knowledgeable one at that, you probably
did try the competition.  What do you honestly think are the strong and
weak points of each?

Mow that is a challenge!

Jeff


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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 06:23:06 -0700
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On Tue, 5 May 1998, allen solof wrote:

> when you do a full backup of the C:\ drive with PKZIP is it necessary to
> use the switches to include system and hidden files? are there
> hidden/system files on the HP in C:\?

Depends on your apps. Stock 200LX's should have these in c:\_dat :
setup.env       readonly
alarm.q         readonly, hidden  (alarms for Appt app)
ccmail.env      readonly  (if you use ccMail)

People running the T2T emm driver would have c:\tremm.swp as
readonly/system/hidden.

My full backups at night use the pkzip command:

        pkzip -rp -whs -Jhrs -xtremm.swp a:\_bak\cdrive c:\*.*

which backs up the entire C drive, skipping the emm swap file (to answer
part of your next question).

-rp     recurses subdirectories and stores the pathnames
-whs    includes hidden,system files
-Jhrs   turns off the mask for hidden/system/readonly files (but don't
                ask me what that means)
-xtremm.swp skips processing for the 'tremm.swp' file, which is the emm
        swap file I use.

On a restore, I delete any file remnants on C, then pkunzip using:

        pkunzip -d -Jhrs -o a:\_bak\cdrive.zip

and run the "instemm 64" command to rebuild a new swap file.

> I am also curious: if you run a full backup from the Appointment book
> I assume that the HP shells to DOS to accomplish this. Does this create a
> "swap" file that holds the SysMgr? If so, then by including hidden/system
> files in your backup, would you also be backing up that "swap" file that
> contains the SysMgr that has been created by the shelling?

Shelling to DOS from SysMgr doesn't create a swap file, unless you're
using MaxDOS. Standard shelling (Ctrl-123) just creates a "bubble" DOS
environment inside SysMgr's own environment, so there's no swapping
involved. I run the backup from the Appt app which invokes a macro to
close all apps, then runs the backup from MaxDos which does use a swap
file during the execution, but which is excluded using the pkzip option
mentioned above.

- Longden

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> On 1998-05-01 melancon@PRYSM.NET said to epadin@wagweb.com
>    >David,
>    >I'm copying this reply to the group in case anybody else is
>    >confused. (for everybody else this is about the DataPerfect database
>    >program available at:
>    >http://www.sanbachs.com/compusofl/download.html)
>    >I downloaded them all - and if you decide you will use the program
>    >you will probably download all of them as well.  DPTUTOR.ZIP will
>    >give you a tutorial to see what the program looks like and a little
>    >bit of what it can do.
>    >To write your own apps you MUST have DPPROG.ZIP which has the 2
>
> snip
>
> What language do you write apps in? Is it propietary? Can you use Xbase
> or SQL?
>

Everything is done through menues.  Not really a programming
language.  You can do complicated calculationg in field formulas.
You can design reports which use commands and logic to print the data
you want in the way you want it presented.  I guess you would call it
propietary.
Mike Melancon
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On Wed, 6 May 1998, Jeff Malka wrote:

> ->Anyway,
> ->I cannot serve :) - too biased and I am a vendor anyway :)
>
> Yes, but as a vendor of one, and a knowledgeable one at that, you probably
> did try the competition.  What do you honestly think are the strong and
> weak points of each?
>
> Mow that is a challenge!

C'mon Jeff. Is it fair to expect him to be both a good businessman and
honest at the same time <g>.

It'd be like those "features matrix" that checks off all the advantages of
the advertiser's product while omitting (oh, we didn't know they could do
that!) the other products' features not supported by the advertiser.

I would much prefer someone other than a vendor put this together.

Now to avoid making this a useless rant, here's my 2 cents...

I use NetTamer 1.08pt for most of my email (substantial) and some
newgroups (very light use), and I'd have to agree that its documentation
and interface had been a rite of passage of sorts for me and others, but
it's quick and easy to use on a regular basis once you get it going. I run
it daily on my regular speed 2mb 200LX, in addition to my 2x/6mb...both
are acceptable and I'd have to think it be OK on a 1mb 100LX, tho I could
see where you'd be cramped for space.

I also use ccMail, since I have a 200LX, but the original poster had a
100LX, so this may not be an option which is a shame since it's built-in
for 200LX users and is a very well integrated email app.

I can't comment on WWW/LX nor GP, since I haven't tried either, nor have
any immediate plans to do so. I do a lot of email on my Unix server also,
and use Datacomm/Pine for that. I wouldn't look at yet another email
handler unless there was something really compelling for me, which I
haven't heard yet. Everyone's situation is different and I respect that.

- Longden

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latest version of a tide prediction program is at
ftp.std.com/ftp/pub/wallner
works on 200lx dos, windows95, and only $15 to register after trial, author
will send a custom disk for your area if you request.
Roy

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The Newton keyboard is about 10 " long, about
three times the volume of the LX. Has a decent touch
but is a little noisy. They are getting harder to find -
Pilot users want them too, they have to buy a $40 software
package to make the connection.


Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> Quite true, but it's a matter of degree - while carrying the Newton
> keyboard around *does* reduce the portability a little, it'd only
> be a by a little (I imagine, since I don't have one). The Newton keyboard
> is approximately the same size as the hp200lx itself, I think.

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              Jim Saklad <jsaklad@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU>
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On Wed, 6 May 1998, Nicholas Chan wrote:

> 1.) Get all my oldwarez onto it that many people are looking for. (ie. Win3.0 with Word)
> 2.) Have a central point for ALL old programs lookers (meaning links to wyn's site and
> comports site) in the format of SUPER
> 3.) Have people with rare gemz like Win2.03 with Word and Excel in shrinkwrap to put
> them up for other fellow HPLX guys to use and enjoy.

And why don't we just forward your mail directly to Microsoft so they know
to prosecute you as you as you do this....

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Sorry to bring this up to the list again.  I know we've discussed PCMCIA
modems before.  But I'm wondering if someone would want to start a FAQ on
acceptable modems for the HPLX?  This would be tremendously helpful in
deciding what to purchase and what will work.

I've tried a US Robotics 33.6K PCMCIA modem on my HP200LX and I believe
that it is drawing too much power.  I can't get it to initialize and work
with WWW/LX.  So which ones will work?

I also remember some discussion on inexpensive (read _cheap_) 14.4K modems
that are on the resale market.  I've found that none of the retail outlets
carry them.  As soon as the newest, fastest, latest stuff comes out.....the
old ones are returned to vendor (RTV) and, apparently sold at bargin
basement, clearance prices to someone who then resells them.

I'm wondering what the 28.8K PCMCIA modems are going for these days?  Since
the 33.6 and 56.6 modems are out, the 28.8 modems should be dropping in
price.  Any good prices seen yet for these "old" modems?  Any good places
to go to buy either a 14.4K or a 28.8K PCMCIA modem?
Thanks & regards......Jim J.

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I would like an evaluation copy as well.
Thanks!
Jim Johnson

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Anyone have any experience with the: "AT&T
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?s Keep In  Touch Express PCMCIA
high-speed
 data and fax modem."?  I noticed it for $29.99 at
http://www.surplusdirect.com/.   Oops......as I was
typing, the last one was sold.  Any tips on any other sites with
inexpensive 14.4K or 28.8K PCMCIA
modems?
Jim J.
=

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 13:06:13 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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I think that you already have that... Anyway, there's a program written
for the 95lx that does this. It can found on eddie (ftp://eddie.mit.edu,
Ithink.)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jez Cunningham SMTP:Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 1998 3:19 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      HPLX-L Re2: Weekly view of appointments
>
> Thanks Greg (and to Dennis who wrote Tickler!)
>
> I had a look at TICKLER but it wasn't the program I saw in my dream.
> What
> I remember was called WEEK and displayed a weekly view on the palmtop
> screen - in a format more like the built-in monthly view but with
> bigger
> boxes for just one week.  A bit like Psion (what's that?) or Lotus
> Organizer format.
> It's more suited to one or two appointments per day with long
> descriptions,
> than lots of appointments with short descriptions.
>
> For example:
>
> +----------------------------------+---------------------------------+
> !Monday                            !Thursday                         !
> !*    Wife's birthday              !                                 !
> !1pm  Take secretary to lunch      !                                 !
> +----------------------------------+---------------------------------+
> !Tuesday                           !Friday                           !
> !                                  !                                 !
> !                                  !                                 !
> +----------------------------------+----------------+----------------+
> !Wednesday                         !Saturday        !Sunday          !
> !                                  !                !                !
> !                                  !                !                !
> +----------------------------------+----------------+----------------+
>
> Does this ring any bells with anybody? Or if not, who wants to program
> it?!
>
> I'd find this very useful, 'cos with the limited overview of the week
> I tend to
> work by making a print of the month - this uses a font small enough to
> get loads
> of info into a small box (landscape printed) and I can see what's
> coming.
>
> (Incidentally, I have never been able to include the Location field
> when
> printing.   Even Tickler didn't include it, and it's an irritation to
> see from
> the print of the month that you have Lunch somewhere but it doesn't
> say where...
> Have I missed something?)
>
> TIA
> Jez
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator
> _________________________________
> Subject: Re: Weekly view of appointments
> Author:  gdwyer at SMTP/dd.RFC-822=gdwyer@MELBPC\.ORG\.AU
> Date:    06/05/98 00:26
>
>
> There is a program on the SUPER site called "Tickler" which will list
> all your f
> ure appointments and events
> Regards
>
> Greg Dwyer - gdwyer@melbpc.org.au
>
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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 12:55:27 -0500
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On Wed, 6 May 1998, Jim Johnson wrote:

> Sorry to bring this up to the list again.  I know we've discussed PCMCIA
> modems before.  But I'm wondering if someone would want to start a FAQ on
> acceptable modems for the HPLX?

Well, I don't have much interest in working on a FAQ, but I can
share my experience.  My first attempt was a 56k USR modem in a
Compaq C140.  It would shut down the unit in a matter of minutes.
Fortunately, Officemax took it back and refunded my money.

Subsequently I sold the Compaq and bought a 200LX.  My first
modem (purchased via Usenet) was a 9600 Megahertz.  Since then
I have bought two more Megahertz modems, an XJ1144 and an XJ2144.
The three seem to be equivalent in power draw.  I can run for
nearly an hour with a fresh set of alkalines.  With fresh NiCd's
I can go well over an hour--once staying logged on to my Unix
shell for 1 hour 45 minutes before I got the low battery
warning.  I'm guessing the NiCd's do better due to lower internal
resistance.  These modems are reported to draw around 130 mA.

The last two modems I found on Ebay.  It didn't take a lot of
searching and they cost me $20 and $25.  The 9600 I think I got
for about $16.  The 9600 was a bit slow for me (Datacom to a
Unix shell) but the 14.4 modems are plenty fast.  YMMV.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 13:27:46 -0500
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ernie
No problem. I just left you a phone message but I'll repeat it here. My
only 2 concerns are 1) I remember when I was living in TOkyo 2 years ago
and my friend had an 85 meg Epsom card that ran incredibly slow on his
200lx. With the 96 meg card will I notice a difference in speed from my
40 meg card? Also, do you ship COD? If yes, great. If not, a money order
is my alternative.
Thanks
Tony

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 11:40:11 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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> Any tips on any other sites with inexpensive 14.4K or 28.8K PCMCIA
> modems?

Hi Jim,

Try Princeton P Direct
http://www.pdirect2u.com
1-800-TO-U-4-LESS (868-4537)

HTH


Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 14:56:33 -0400
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Greg Lolley wrote:
>I have just began using ABCLX to charge a set of RS Nmhd batteries on my=

>200/32mb x2 machine and I keep getting the following message when I star=
t
>ABCLX,  "unable to allocate memory in XBRAM. Anyone else having same
problem
>or info on XBRAM?

Greg, I found this in my archives of useful Mailing list info, it may giv=
e
you something useful.

Laurence Harvey

On Wed, 2 Jul 1997   Angelica Wilson wrote:

>The hp has an little know bit of unknown memory called Xbram. This area =
of
>memory sometimes become corrupted and is rather difficult to reset as it=

will
>retain it's data even if both the main and backup batteries are removed.=

Also
>this bit of memory is not reset when you intialized the c: drive. I know=

of
>at least two programs that intentionaly use this area (Buddy and ABC/LX)=

but
>some dos programs can also unitentionaly corrupt this area. The solution=
 I
>have found that works is remove everything (flashcard, all batteries,
serial
>cable) push and hold the on button for at least 2-5 minutes. Replace
>batteries (Main then backup) perform the self test on ram (Self test and=

be
>reached with the unit off hold ESC and press ON). Then try rebooting and=

see
>if everything is alright. If not try repeating the samething over again
and
>try holding the on button longer (you can also try toggling the ON butto=
n
it
>only seems to work if the ON button is prushed so as to turn the unit on=

not
>off). As another member suggested leaving the unit without batteries for=
 a
>couple of days might do the same thing but I wouldn't want to be without=

my
>HP for that longs

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Hi, Tony:
>
Let's make this easy. A personal check drawn on a US or Canadian bank is
fine. I'll ship the card when I rec'v the check but won't cash it for a
couple days until you confirm receipt of the cards. My insurance is the fact
that your a regular participant here and hopefully won't jerk me around. If
this works, let me know.
>
Bernie Torbik
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Date: Wednesday, May 06, 1998 11:36
Subject: Re: 96 meg flash card


>ernie
>No problem. I just left you a phone message but I'll repeat it here. My
>only 2 concerns are 1) I remember when I was living in TOkyo 2 years ago
>and my friend had an 85 meg Epsom card that ran incredibly slow on his
>200lx. With the 96 meg card will I notice a difference in speed from my
>40 meg card? Also, do you ship COD? If yes, great. If not, a money order
>is my alternative.
>Thanks
>Tony
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On Wed, 6 May 1998 11:14:48 -0400 (EDT), Jim Saklad wrote:

>> 1.) Get all my oldwarez onto it that many people are looking for. (ie. Win3.0 with
Word)
>> 2.) Have a central point for ALL old programs lookers (meaning links to wyn's site
and
>> comports site) in the format of SUPER
>> 3.) Have people with rare gemz like Win2.03 with Word and Excel in shrinkwrap to
put
>> them up for other fellow HPLX guys to use and enjoy.
>And why don't we just forward your mail directly to Microsoft so they know
>to prosecute you as you as you do this....
Hey, just FYI :
1.) This is a *PRIVATE* List, meaning I TRUST the people here not to be NARKS.
2.) I did not publish this info ANYWHERE else on the net. Any other pple going on the
site are leaks.
3.) If you plan to nark to MS on me, then I'd guess there goes another helpsite for the LX.
Then, it's all because of YOU. Remember that.

To the list, I will halt the site indefinately just to be safe from Narks, coz I am still a
student, and I don't want any of my actions to cause my future. I am sorry, but this is what
happens when Narks exist in a list where I can trust myself to.
... Rumour: NT means Not Tested...OS/2, Windows/0

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 14:10:34 -0500
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From:         Randy Simonson <randys@TSMSER.COM>
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Subject:      I'm losing data

        I have been running my large notes, phone, database and appointments files
off my 20 mb Pretec flash card (not enough room on my 1mb HP200).  With
increasing frequency, these files become corrupted and don't work.  I go to
back up files saved to my desktop, sometimes they work and sometimes they
don't.
        Yesterday I lost a new database file I had just made.  I could not get it
back all day, but this morning I was able to bring it up.  I turned off the
HP200 while in the file, but when I turned it back on and got - ERROR:
Cannot open file.  However I just tried it again and it works.
        I went into my notes file and noticed several entries were gone.  I tried
to open up 2 backup files and neither of them will open.
        Last week I lost my appointments file.  I could not get any of the back up
files to work.  I used Garlic and it restored most of the files, but then
lost that.  I have never lost the phone file though, thank God!
        Is it the flash card rather than the HP?  I keep the flash card in the HP
all the time.  I keep the HP on a little holder on my pickup's dash much of
the time (I love that $8 little piece of plastic).  A few years ago I kept
diskettes in the ashtray of my car and they got corrupted at times.  Is my
flash card becoming corrupted by the radio or other electronics in the
pickup?

        I am getting rather frustrated with my beloved little friend.

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 15:20:42 -0400
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              Laurence Harvey <harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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allen solof wrote:
>when you do a full backup of the C:\ drive with PKZIP is it necessary to=

>use the switches to include system and hidden files? are there
>hidden/system files on the HP in C:\?
>
>I am also curious: if you run a full backup from the Appointment book
>I assume that the HP shells to DOS to accomplish this. Does this create =
a
>"swap" file that holds the SysMgr? If so, then by including hidden/syste=
m
>files in your backup, would you also be backing up that "swap" file that=

>contains the SysMgr that has been created by the shelling?

There are a few hidden files in the _DAT directory so it may be a good id=
ea
to backup hidden files as well. To my knowledge, there are no system file=
s
on C:\

The shell to DOS only allocates the available free memory to the DOS
application being run. SysMgr still remains in memory also, so there is n=
o
swap file created. You will not have a problem with this. The only
consideration is whether PKZIP will run in the memory available when
shelled to DOS, I believe others on the list do it so maybe someone can
help here.

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 12:29:25 -0700
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              "Bernard A. Torbik" <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
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I have a VERY limited supply of new 160MB (native format, not compressed)
Type II PCMCIA cards avbl from Simple Technologies for $699, including
shipping to North America, Australia, Asia or Europe. Specs are as follows:
>
Dual voltage (3.3/5.0 volt); Autosensing
Transfer rate:  750kb continuous; 10.0MB burst
Interface: ATA and IDE
Compatibility: DOS; Win 3.x, 95, NT and CE
Drivers required: None for HP200 or CE units
MTBF: >1,000,000 write/erase cycles
Warranty: 5 years from Simple Technologies
Exchange policy: 30 days no hassle
>
Payment may be made by US/Canadian checks; VISA/MC/AMEX. Contact me by email
or phone 562.433.3987 before 0630 PDT; after 1900 PDT. Fax 562.439.3678.
>
Bernie Torbik
Shore Systems Ltd.

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 15:20:49 -0400
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Would those mailing list members that insist on sending their "Me Too"
messages to the list please take the little effort required to direct the=
ir
responses to the individual to whom they are responding and not to the
list, we really are not interested.  =


Downloading over a dozen "Me Toos" on the spell-checker/thesaurus thread
over the past few days has been a little annoying. =


Thank You

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 12:49:09 -0700
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From:         "A. Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: WWW/lx, Goin' Postal vs Nettamer
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Longden:

> C'mon Jeff. Is it fair to expect him to be both a good businessman and
> honest at the same time <g>.

Absolutely. You seem to have a dim view of business. The
_last_ thing you want to be is dishonest in business. I hope
your personal dealings with me have not led you to make this
less than charitable comment about my character.

> I would much prefer someone other than a vendor put this together.

Agree. The most involvement we can have is provide raw data,
no more.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 12:49:05 -0700
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Jeff,

> ->Anyway,
> ->I cannot serve :) - too biased and I am a vendor anyway :)
>
> Yes, but as a vendor of one, and a knowledgeable one at that, you =
probably
> did try the competition.  What do you honestly think are the strong and
> weak points of each?

Why do you think so? Vendors don'r necessarily try everything
out the competition puts out. My incentive to do it is very
small, since I have a product that does for me what I need.

In terms of what "they" have that we not, I find this a
ridiculous competition! "They" will always have something "we"
do not have, and the reverse is true too "we" will always have
something "they" do not have. The point is to build a set of
features that your customers want. We concentrate on that.

In the beta (approximately 25 people, active DAILY!!) we
mentioned Nettamer maybe two-three times during 2.5 years, and
I don't recall GP mentioned at all. One of our Beta testers
introduced NetTamer to the HPHAND Forum in Compuserve, in
fact.

But what we build is what we believe is the best combination
of features.

My last Nettamer experience was with version about 1.03 or
such, and NetTamer has moved a lot since, as I understand, so
it makes no sense for me to comment.

GP I have not tried, and have no opinion.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Tue, 5 May 1998 11:18:20 -0500
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              "Nestor A. Ramirez" <nestoral@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
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From:         "Nestor A. Ramirez" <nestoral@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Subject:      Re: Found a spell-checker/thesaurus
Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM

I would appreciate a copy, for evaluation purposes, of course. :-D

Nestor A. Ramirez, MD, MPH
Medical Director, NICU
Provena Covenant Medical Center
1400 West Park Street
Urbana, IL   61801


-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Monday, May 04, 1998 9:00 AM
Subject: Found a spell-checker/thesaurus


>If anyone is looking for a stand-alone spell-checker and thesaurus, I
>recently unearthed a copy of IBM Word Proof 1.00 dating back to 1983!
>It works great on a palmtop. It's about 325K
>;-)
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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 16:43:48 -0400
Reply-To:     Jim Saklad <jsaklad@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
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NC> 1.) Get all my oldwarez onto it that many people are looking for.
NC> (ie.  Win3.0 with Word)
NC> 2.) Have a central point for ALL old programs lookers (meaning links
NC> to wyn's site and comports site) in the format of SUPER
NC> 3.) Have people with rare gemz like Win2.03 with Word and Excel in
NC>shrinkwrap to put them up for other fellow HPLX guys to use and enjoy.

JS> And why don't we just forward your mail directly to Microsoft so they
JS> know to prosecute you as you as you do this....

NC> 1.) This is a *PRIVATE* List, meaning I TRUST the people here not to
NC> be NARKS.

WRONG! This is NOT a private list. The archives of this list are available
to anyone with a web browser who goes to
                HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml

NC> 2.) I did not publish this info ANYWHERE else on the net. Any other
NC> pple going on the site are leaks.

See above: you published it won the WORLDWIDE web!

NC> 3.) If you plan to nark to MS on me, then I'd guess there goes another
NC> helpsite for the LX.

I don't plan to (it would be too much trouble, and God knows, I don't want
to help MS with ANYthing!), but I don't consider a "central point"  where
you illegally provide unauthorized access to commercial software for the
"benefit" of third parties a "helpsite"!

> Then, it's all because of YOU. Remember that.

Thank you. I shall consider that a compliment. My good deed for today.

> To the list, I will halt the site indefinately just to be safe from
> Narks, coz I am still a student, and I don't want any of my actions to
> cause my future. I am sorry, but this is what happens when Narks exist
> in a list where I can trust myself to.

To The List - and especially the List Manager:

Please delete this individual's posting from the archive, so as to
minimize your (unwilling) complicity in his criminal activities
(publishing his message). I think it would also be prudent to disavow
his actions here on the list, and reiterate some quideline for list
activity in this area.

Since his message was initially sent to YOU, you might also consider
notifying his ISP as to the use he is putting their equipment to.

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 17:03:12 -0700
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              bamcilvaine <bamcilvaine@PALMTOP.COM>
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Hey everyone -

Does anyone have a copy of the Agenda Newletter #3, with the 30 minute intro to
Agenda by Lynn Cavendish? If so, please email me a copy. I am trying to
evaluate the usefulness of this software, and have yet to make it do anything
useful, let alone interesting, but I think it is more due to a lack of
knowledge on my part than anything else. If anyone has the info I am referring
to, I would appreciate it.

Happy Cinco de Mayo,

Brian

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 14:18:08 -0700
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Subject:      Re: WWW/lx, Goin' Postal vs Nettamer
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> Why do you think so? Vendors don'r necessarily try everything
> out the competition puts out. My incentive to do it is very
> small, since I have a product that does for me what I need.

As the author of Goin' Postal, I haven't downloaded WWW/LX
either.  Not that I don't want to (if it's half as cool as
the HV part of it, it's probably very nice!).  At this stage
of development, I already have a path that the product is
heading and don't want to cloud my goals or 'steal' any
features.

You know, I never really considered GP to be competing with
WWW/LX - they are targetted at different users.  I'm shooting
for those that want email only, or those that have to settle
for email only due to space constraints.  WWW/LX does a whole
lot more than just email.  (in fact, when GP development began,
WWW/LX didn't have email)

>
> In terms of what "they" have that we not, I find this a
> ridiculous competition! "They" will always have something "we"
> do not have, and the reverse is true too "we" will always have
> something "they" do not have. The point is to build a set of
> features that your customers want. We concentrate on that.

Yes, I agree.

> I don't recall GP mentioned at all. One of our Beta testers

Well, I'd expect that - GP has only been available for a month
or so..

> But what we build is what we believe is the best combination
> of features.

Sorta my same goal - "best combination of *email* features that
I can fit *comfortably on a 1mb LX* and *still keep an intuitive
user interface*".  If the user can't navigate it, then it doesn't
matter what bells and whistles it has.

I think it would be cool to see some end-user comparisons of
all the email solutions.  (I guess this counts as a "Me Too!" :-)

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 14:18:19 -0700
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              Joe Barrera <joebar@MICROSOFT.COM>
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> NC> 1.) This is a *PRIVATE* List, meaning I TRUST the people here not to
> NC> be NARKS.

> WRONG! This is NOT a private list. The archives of this list are available
> to anyone with a web browser who goes to
>                 HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml

And besides, even if it WERE a private list, there are Microsoft employees
on this list. Does that surprise you?

- Joe

Joseph S. Barrera III <joebar@acm.org>
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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 18:25:19 -0400
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Try:

http://eddie.mit.edu/ftp/pub/hp95lx/pimutl/weekabk376.zip

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 18:28:19 -0400
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When thinking about 33.6 PC card modems for the LX, note that I have tried
Pretec's 33.6, and it barely works.

Barely.

After about ten minutes, it overheats the palmtop, and can cause damage
(erasing the c:\ drive, etc).

I wrote Pretec and they claim that the modem should work in the 200LX, but
it doesn't work well for me.

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 18:33:39 -0400
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I use pkzip to backup.  Since I use the system password (password /a at
command prompt) to minimally secure my files, I find that backing to a
flash will un-secure my data if the flash is used on another drive.

So when I use pkzip, I use the password encryption (-s option -- pkzip
-sPASSWORD).  Use at least 6 letters, a combo of lower, upper case, numbers
and possibly some punctuation.

This makes it quite secure for most intents and purposes.

And if you use a BAT file to automate the backup, then put that BAT file
(which has the password in it) on the C-drive.  If someone does steal the
palmtop, then with the system password, the most they can do is format the
C-drive, and they will lose access to the data.

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 18:35:57 -0400
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Avi wrote:

 > I'd love to see a comparison of all three. We can always learn
 > something (my company, D&A Software, produced WWW/LX Plus!).

I'll do it for $0.50 a word, and publish it on my web page, which gets
about 50 hits a day.

Of course, the person that pays me gets the best review... <g>

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Found this neat table of PCMCIA modem power draw by Chris De Herrera.

It's basically a WinCE site but the table isn't:

http://members.aol.com/pdcchrisd/pccrdpwr.htm

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Are there any freeware/shareware programs that enable the HP Calc to display
entries like an adding tape?  Is it possible to do this with the built in
application?
Thanks

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 18:41:46 -0700
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I have an opportunity to buy a used HP200LX from Asia for cheap. I assume
it's an English language version (I'm in the process of varifying that),
but I have a vague recollection that there are two English versions-- a
U.S. one and an International one-- and that the latter and Buddy are not
compatible. Can someone help me out here? Is this true, or is my memory
faulty (the usual case)?

TIA,
Larry Mittell

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 20:45:25 -0500
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Subject:      GP vs WWW/LX

First of all let me state the Avi Meshar was kind enough to grant me an
evaluation license for WWW/LX so that I could compare it to 'Goin Postal and
then report to the list my true feelings and comparisons of both programs.
Avi knew that I was biased towards GP and still generously made me the
offer, so here are my own true feelings/experiences with WWW/LX & POST/LX.
Please remember, everyone has their own opinions and I'm not looking to get
flamed.

Downloading and installing both WWW/LX & POST/LX was a quite painless event
for me, but getting them up & running was another. I'm not a non-technical
person and I'll try anything once, but getting the software to work was more
difficult than getting GP to run. I did get it working, but it did take some
effort on my part. In trying to make a fair comparison to GP, I only asked
Avi a couple of questions and tryed to get the rest from the manuals. The
first time I ever installed GP, it was without any docs or help. So on the
ease of installation and set-up, in my opinion, GP wins.

Now for actual operation, POST/LX seemed a bit more confusing to me than GP,
especially being a new user of the software. In fact, and I know this sounds
horrible, I don't think I ever totally mastered it, but then again, I only
used it for a little over a week. A _great_ feature that POST/LX has over GP
is it's ability to download/upload newsgroups. In the operation department,
for ease of use, I like GP better, but I have to also say POST/LX gets kudos
for the newsgroup ability it possess. Both programs offer the ability to add
sigantures and I must admit I'm not sure the POST/LX can handle attachments
(I didn't try) but I'm sure that it does.

As far as user interfaces and display, POST/LX looks _great_. It looks like
a built-in application, whereas GP operates in text mode, it's not as pretty
as POST/LX, but it's quite functional. I have to give POST/LX the winning
ribbon in this department.

I really hate to compare WWW/LX POST/LX to 'Goin Postal, as they are both
great programs for the LX. I think both have a place in the palmtop
marketplace. My personal choice would be GP, although I must say again, I'm
very biased. 'Goin Postal just seems easier for me to use, but once again,
that's my opinion.

I think that if all you need is email access and don't have much room to
spare that 'Goin Postal is the way to go. If you want/need newsgroups access
and the ability to some web browsing then WWW/LX is the item you need.
Although I didn't get the chance to use it during my evaluation with the
WWW/LX TCP/IP engine, HV is one heck of a cool program. I kkep it on my
200LX with my Sheriff's Dept page to show off to my friends. It never fails
to blow their minds =)

Avi, once again, thank you for allowing me to truly evaluate your product.
It's an honor to have vendors such as yourself supporting our LX community.
WWW/LX with POST/LX is a great system and I'm sure that anyone who tries it
will agree. It's great that we LX'ers now truly have a choice in internet
connectivity software. Up until the past couple of months, I was using
Qua!-lx, which at the time, was a great solution for me, but it was a bit
awkward to use, especially for users who aren't comfortable in compiling
uqwk on a UNIX box (that is if they have shell access).

I encourage everyone on the list to try all of the available software for
the LX and make your needs, wants and desires known to the author of the
particular software you are using. Competition is good for everyone,
especially the end users of the software.

Happy palmtopping everyone!

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 19:36:17 -0700
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Jez Cunningham wrote:
>
> Thanks Greg (and to Dennis who wrote Tickler!)
>
> I had a look at TICKLER but it wasn't the program I saw in my dream.  What
> I remember was called WEEK and displayed a weekly view on the palmtop
> screen - in a format more like the built-in monthly view but with bigger
> boxes for just one week.

Hi,
I had that program, and got it off the old ftp hp95 site
(ftp://ftp.eddie.edu). or something like that.  It is only for the 95.
It is called week.apt  ~something like that. I used it only on the 95lx.
I don't know if it will work on the 200 or 100lx, I think the format is
different in appts from the 95lx.

Marta

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 12:40:47 +1000
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Larry,

I bought my 200LX in Australia,  which whilst not Asia is generally supplied
with "international Versions" of products.  I have been using buddy without
problem...

Where do you reside in IBM ?  Transarc is Transaction systems lab for IBM,
based in Pittsburgh.

Cheers,
Alastair

Larry Mittell wrote:

> I have an opportunity to buy a used HP200LX from Asia for cheap. I assume
> it's an English language version (I'm in the process of varifying that),
> but I have a vague recollection that there are two English versions-- a
> U.S. one and an International one-- and that the latter and Buddy are not
> compatible. Can someone help me out here? Is this true, or is my memory
> faulty (the usual case)?
>
> TIA,
> Larry Mittell
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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 21:10:11 -0700
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>  > I'd love to see a comparison of all three. We can always learn
>  > something (my company, D&A Software, produced WWW/LX Plus!).
>
> I'll do it for $0.50 a word, and publish it on my web page, which gets
> about 50 hits a day.
>
> Of course, the person that pays me gets the best review... <g>

You have got to be kidding, right? That is all you'll pay us
for the review? Nah!

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> Are there any freeware/shareware programs that enable the HP Calc to =
display
> entries like an adding tape?  Is it possible to do this with the built =
in
> application?

I just learned the trick this Saturday at LAX Palmtop User
Group Meeting:

open Calculator. Press Ctrl-L. You can add and subtract. This
"tape" goes on and on, I do not know about limits it has, You
can edit the data, You can even have a 2 "tape" list.

This little "puppy calculator" just does not cease to amaze
me! :-)
  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 21:10:05 -0700
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Steve:

Thanks for the good dialog.

> You know, I never really considered GP to be competing with
> WWW/LX - they are targetted at different users.  I'm shooting
> for those that want email only, or those that have to settle
> for email only due to space constraints.  WWW/LX does a whole
> lot more than just email.  (in fact, when GP development began,
> WWW/LX didn't have email)

I have a similar attitude, and would add NetTamer to this
list. It seems to me that I used the word "competition" a bit
loosely. Many of our customers have NetTamer, and probably
will now also add GP. In that regard, there seems to be plenty
of room in the market. Each of the products specialises in
some ways.

If anything, the presence of multiple products in this genre,
adds credence to our claim that the HP palmtop is a REAL
(really REAL) computer :) even though it does not have on it
Windows 95! I know this statement is acceptable here, but out
there, in W95/WNT land people look around them when I say so,
assessing the escape routes, in case I begin to spit and bite,
or something :) ...

When did you start GP? We published WWW/LX Plus version 1
which had email in May or June 1997. The last release is a
major reworking of all components of the product.

In fact, if you want to stretch it, PalEdit used to have very
limited email capability sometime in October 1996, I believe.
I used it quite a bit with macros and all, but it was really
not designed as an email system.

> > But what we build is what we believe is the best combination
> > of features.
>
> Sorta my same goal - "best combination of *email* features that
> I can fit *comfortably on a 1mb LX* and *still keep an intuitive
> user interface*".  If the user can't navigate it, then it doesn't
> matter what bells and whistles it has.

Our concepts are different and that is good, because it
enriches the products, and the customers, our friends,
benefit.

The "fit in 1mb email can be accomplished with WWW/LX and
Post/LX too, but I think our takes a little more space thatn
your, but it definitely fits...

> I think it would be cool to see some end-user comparisons of
> all the email solutions.  (I guess this counts as a "Me Too!" :-)

Great, I am pleased you "me too!"ed! I am sure Uncle Dave will
have zero objection. So what remains is for the good people
here to put their minds together and figure out how to do it!
I have provided Jeff (who posts extremely well for GP) with a
copy of WWW/LX Plus so he can evaluate both. He readily
admitted his bias, but was willing to try it anyway. That is
fine with me.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 22:01:26 -0700
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I too think a modem FAQ specifically oriented towards the 100/200lx would
be much appreciated by all who are entering the "connected" realm with
their favorite palmtop. Even a polling (and compiling for later use) of
what people are currently finding works for them would be helpful.

On a more specific informational note, is there any reason why I should
not set my comm software (in using a 14.4k pcmcia modem) for 57600 or
even higher? If so, what is the reason for not telling the software to
"get the data as fast as you can"?

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 22:35:33 -0700
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Jeff,

Thanks for the evaluation. I appreciate the good words. I'll
come back in private email, and pick your brains on how the
installation process can be improved!

You commented on attachments - yes, very easily in the
addressing dialog, F2 to Add, and select attachment. (other
items are text, headers, signature etc) Then press F6 to open
a navigation window to find and select the file you wish to
attach. I do it very regularly.

Thank you again for the evaluation! Please keep the copy of
WWW/LX Plus as our token of appreciation (hey, you may want to
use it one day on a full time basis  :) ...)

I am sure Andreas will read this and will dissect it
meticulously to see what can be learned form this evaluation.
I will do the same.

Oh, yes, sometime if you want to really make your friends
drool, install WWW/LX Plus on a desktop in a DOS box. You'll
need PALRUN (available in our Web page). The LXPIC addition is
coolest on the desktop!

Best Regards,

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 03:05:44 -0400
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> I would appreciate a copy, for evaluation purposes.

Thanks, Jeff.

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 08:06:01 +0100
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Thanks all for the suggestion - but this is an hp95 program and I was
looking for a nicer view on my '200
best regds
Jez
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Try:
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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 06:41:10 -0500
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Bernie
I still don't have your mailing address.
Tony

Bernard A. Torbik wrote:

> Hi, Tony:
> >
> Let's make this easy. A personal check drawn on a US or Canadian bank is
> fine. I'll ship the card when I rec'v the check but won't cash it for a
> couple days until you confirm receipt of the cards. My insurance is the fact
> that your a regular participant here and hopefully won't jerk me around. If
> this works, let me know.
> >
> Bernie Torbik
> -----Original Message-----
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> Date: Wednesday, May 06, 1998 11:36
> Subject: Re: 96 meg flash card
>
> >ernie
> >No problem. I just left you a phone message but I'll repeat it here. My
> >only 2 concerns are 1) I remember when I was living in TOkyo 2 years ago
> >and my friend had an 85 meg Epsom card that ran incredibly slow on his
> >200lx. With the 96 meg card will I notice a difference in speed from my
> >40 meg card? Also, do you ship COD? If yes, great. If not, a money order
> >is my alternative.
> >Thanks
> >Tony
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Hi, all...

I am able to say Iv'e used each of these programs. I'll start with =
nettamer,
as that is the first thing I used. Then I'll do WWWLX, then GP.

Nettamer v1.09 & 1.10:
The con's:

     Despite some bashing over the interface, we must realize that this =
was
written originally for DOS. The user interface is wierd, with the 'choose =
a
letter from the list' for each function thing, but once I got used to it, =
I
could navigate around pretty quickly.
     I found it the most difficult of the three to
get going because I had to come up with a script. I say difficult, but =
with
help from the list and the nettamer newsgroup, it wasn't that bad, and I
learned alot.
     I didn't get alot of satisfaction from the Web browser, but it =
worked.
Some things didn't line up right...

The pro's:

     The size. I could run it from my 1meg machine. The module for setup =
is
not needed once you get configured. I forget the exact size, though.
     The program lacks an editor, but the reader worked well enough, I
always enjoyed being able to write my messages with memo. I just made the
first three lines of the message then To:, From:, and Subject:, with CC's
following that. The body of the text goes later. I found this to be fast,
though not a very integrated solution. One is supposed to be able to use =
RED
as the editor, or invoke ed200, but I couldn't get that to work
satisfactorily - maybe I didn't try hard enough. Maybe this a con, =
depends
on how you look at it.
     Speed. NT seems to be the fastest retrieving messages - important if
calling long distance.
     The major pro... Offline fetching of stuff. Nettamer will do this =
for
you. Another way to save time and money.

WWW/LX:

Pro's:
     Beautiful, well integrated full featured interface-- as a commercial
product should be.
     Fantastic WEB browser. Handles graphics very nicely thanks to lxpic.
Doesnt actually display frames, but doesn't choke either - lets you =
choose
which one to view. Truly impress your friends.
     Editor, nicely calls MEMO and red to handle messages, can send =
e-mail
and do ftp from the browser.
     Support. Being a commercial product, it gets good support. Avi =
answeres
promptly, theres only one thing I cant figure out and I'll discuss this
under Con's. I think we may solve that one too, though. I haven't used
support for the other two programs.
     Modular construction. Module for the TCP/IP connection, Mail, News,
Ftp, Telnet, finger, Setup. This helps to customize space needs. I have =
done
browsing and mail / news on my 1meg machine. It's a little tight, and =
this
comes under cons, too.
     Did I mention Beautiful, well integrated interface? It must be
mentioned again. That and HV make this program well worth $89.

Cons:
     I cannot run WWW/LX from my doubleslot. Nettamer and GP allow me to
plug flash into one slot, and the modem into the other, and have massive
space for everything. This is important for Browsing. At first, Avi
suggested that it is a problem with the Doubleslot. I have to get back to
him on this, because I have GP and nettamer working with this config.
     That's it! As much as a pain this one con is, I hope we can solve =
it,
Avi, there's lots of us with the Doubleslot... This program is The Bomb!!

Goin' Postal:

Pro's :
     Interface. Nice and easy. Not a PAL app, but this makes the programme
nice and small. Still uses standard menu commands, so it's easy to get =
used
to. Easy to set up, granted one only has to set up e-mail and nothing =
else.
     I here it has multiple setups, though I havn't the need for that. I
think the other progs have that, too.

Con's:
     No newsgroups - yet. I know it's not for that, so sue me.



So, I lean towards www/lx overall. Nettamer has the cool timer thing, but =
I
can do this with a macro, I suppose. GP is small, But if I just want =
mail, I
can just use those two modules and get it close to the same size. I =
really
like GP for mail, I'm going to use it some more and see how it grows on =
me,
it's a nice piece of work.

Well, thats all for now...

Darren

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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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> To The List - and especially the List Manager:
>
> Please delete this individual's posting from the archive, so as to
> minimize your (unwilling) complicity in his criminal activities
> (publishing his message). I think it would also be prudent to disavow
> his actions here on the list, and reiterate some quideline for list
> activity in this area...

I will reiterate my editorial policy:

- I do not "moderate" this list as I do not have the time to edit every
message that comes thru. Therefore, the opinions expressed in the
posts to this list are solely those of the author, not me or my
employer. I cannot be responsible for the content of posts to this
list, or, for that matter, the content of www sites mentioned on this
list. If I am called to task on this policy, I will have to abandon
this project.

- The only editing I do on the archives is to remove the rare binary
file that slips thru. (BTW Thank you all for your adherence to this
policy, haven't seen a binary in a long while)

- I will take action against anyone who attacks or maligns another
list member. As I said before, take your fights off the list.


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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 08:18:43 -0500
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From:         Randy Simonson <randys@TSMSER.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Data Loss
Comments: To: bamcilvaine <bamcilvaine@palmtop.com>

 I suffered some of the same type problems when I used to use rechargeable
batteries. They sometimes can't meet the high current demands for writing
the
flash cards. As far as electrical interference - it's possible, and
exceptionally eay to test for - move the unit and see if the problem goes
away.

Brian
Randy Simonson  I usually use Energizer alkaline batteries.  Although
come to think of it, I was using Energizer Lithium batteries for a while
and I don't think I had any data loss during that time.
I think I will try the Lithiums again.
Thanks

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              Bill Gossage <goose@INTERACCESS.COM>
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I use duracell batteries in my HP200, in the slot is a EXP 8meg with
modem card.  I used to get 15-20 hours per set of batteries.

The last month it has dropped down to 4-5 hours.

I havene't been using the modem at all, the serial port is locked off
thru buddy.

What can be causing this????

Bill

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On Wed, 6 May 1998 sponsor@ftel.net wrote:

> Longden:
>
> > C'mon Jeff. Is it fair to expect him to be both a good businessman and
> > honest at the same time <g>.
>
> Absolutely. You seem to have a dim view of business. The
> _last_ thing you want to be is dishonest in business. I hope
> your personal dealings with me have not led you to make this
> less than charitable comment about my character.

I have a healthy respect for business and honesty and contrary to my poor
choice of words, I don't consider them to be mutually exclusive.. that's
why I put the <g> in there.

My apologies to Avi if my remark was interpreted as a slur on his
character. All my dealings with him have always been positive and cordial.

I only meant that it would be unrealistic to expect a good businessman to
promote or advertise the features of a rival product. "Honest" is clearly
not the word I meant to convey.

- Longden

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              gates99@MEDCOR.MCGILL.CA
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Some people take the fun out of computers.  I don't honestly believe that
any of the programs mentioned my this fellow are vaguely useful, and
that's after trying to set them up myself; I know that they are not even
suited
for the 200lx market to begin with.  The central problem is that you are
arguing about software that is out of date by >8 years for a machine
running a system out of date by >10 years. (NOT to be confused with the
200lx as a whole!)
I don't want to re-start that stupid abandonware argument, but I guess I
CAN respect people on this list who are offended by the computer culture
which is happy trading programs--which they often get no use of...
So, perhaps this sperson could post their page to this list and on that
page have a link with an explicit advisory warning, "Do not click here
lest you throw your soul to the Devil" and thereby avoid making us unwilling
culprits in the denegration of the HP200lx, my personal idol of purity...
 I own a 620lx, and it collects dust (bought it when I dropped my 200lx in
the toilet and then lost it, fortunately I found it and became productive
again using the built in software alone).
Anyway, please chill out foks... Grand theft reqires $400 worth of
goods.  How much does MS get for a coy of Win2.03 now-a-days?
Please flame me off the list as required...

     G A T E S 9 9 @ M E D C O R . M C G I L L . C A
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              cable
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Fellow palmtoppers,

I'm trying to use this external pocket modem with my HP 200 LX palmtop.
I have used the USR modem (and still can) with the following:

palmtop: (HP null-modem cable) -> (gender change) -> (null adapt) -> USR

Recently I built a "straight" HP to DB9 F cable which works well with my
Infocom pocket modem and my GPS, and did, at first, work with my USR.
Suddenly the USR does not respond to Hayes commands when attached to my
custom cable. It does work on my desktop PC (hooked up to a 25-9 adapter,
the serial port being driven off the Asus motherboard). It also works on
the cable+gender-changer+null adapter.

I have checked my cable for shorts using a cheap multitester's resistance
gauge, no problems. All pins and the ground check out fine. The only
diff, electrically, between my custom cable and the mess of adapters is
the "ugly" mess of adapters ends up with pins 1 and 9 (DCD and RING) no
longer available at the modem end due to the Radio Shack null adapter
(the HP cable passes both).

I really don't like the idea of cutting wires 1 and 9 on my painfully
soldered cable. Since the USR worked before, I wonder if there's a series
of commands I can send it from my desktop to "fix" the problem
permanently (such that if I'm travelling and have the USR without power
for a while it won't revert to this unusable state).

Much, much thanks for any help you can offer!

-Peter

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@US.IBM.COM>
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>From:    hplx <hplx@COMPORTS.COM>
>So when I use pkzip, I use the password encryption (-s option -- pkzip=

>-sPASSWORD).  Use at least 6 letters, a combo of lower, upper case, nu=
mbers
>and possibly some punctuation.
>This makes it quite secure for most intents and purposes.

I don't think PKZIP's encryption is all that strong.  While most people=

probably won't go to the trouble of trying to break the ecryption it ca=
n be
done.  There are several brut force programs around specifically for ge=
tting
into pw encrypted ZIP files.

If you want encryption on the HP200LX get SecureDevice at:
ftp://utopia.hacktic.nl/pub/replay/pub/disk/secdev14.arj

It is very strong and will be a lot more useful as it creates an encryp=
ted
drive that can hold many kinds of files.

Russ Brooks
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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 22:18:31 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Hi There,

> On Wed, 6 May 1998, Nicholas Chan wrote:
>
> > 1.) Get all my oldwarez onto it that many people are looking for. =
(ie. Win3.0 with Word)
> > 2.) Have a central point for ALL old programs lookers (meaning links =
to wyn's site and
> > comports site) in the format of SUPER
> > 3.) Have people with rare gemz like Win2.03 with Word and Excel in =
shrinkwrap to put
> > them up for other fellow HPLX guys to use and enjoy.
>
> And why don't we just forward your mail directly to Microsoft so they =
know
> to prosecute you as you as you do this....

>  Jim Saklad                                      mailto:jimdoc@iname.com

Today it's VERY difficult to find these kind of software and any other =
old
DOS software which works on our 100/200LX palmtops. Yes, it's not legal
(UNFORTUNATELY), but give they guy a break- he just trying to be nice to
other DOS palmtop users. I guess that you have not been on this list for
long since if you had, you deffinately called the police earlier. Some
people did some "charity work" and I could not see any complaints then on
this list... Yes, piracy of commercial software is deffinately NOT
accepted. But when we talk about Win 2 which most probably only some =
200LX
users want to have and MS have no interest in- it's enough to highlight
that this is not legal, instead of try to scare a 200LX user to death
which only tries to be nice to the 200 community.

Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 10:28:59 -0400
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I have been reading about hinge problems on 100/200lx's.   Yuk!!

What can I do to avoid a broken hinge?  (Other than not using the
machine itself!!)

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              Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR
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Oil it (a small drop inside the right hinge-cap only on the centre pin)
using sewing machine or watch/clock oil.
And pray!
Jez



I have been reading about hinge problems on 100/200lx's.   Yuk!!
What can I do to avoid a broken hinge?  (Other than not using the machine
itself!!)

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 09:55:20 -0600
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I'm looking for a UNIX-style utility called PASTE that I can run in
DOS (either my palmtop or desktop).  I did a brief search on the
internet, and didn't come up with anything.  (I did discover that the
SIMTEL archives seem to have become history - good thing that I have
a CD-ROM from Walnut Creek that a friend gave me a couple of years
ago).  Anyway, any pointers to a PASTE program would be helpful.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 22:50:42 +0800
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Hi There,

> I have been reading about hinge problems on 100/200lx's.   Yuk!!
>
> What can I do to avoid a broken hinge?  (Other than not using the
> machine itself!!)
>
I have not experienced this problem myself, but I can see something that
could be a start of a crack on one of my 200LX units. If it grows bigger,
I will do following:

* Disassemble the whole palmtop and remove the screen from the plastic
cover without removing the spring itself which is located on the right
hinge. Once removed- very difficult to get in place again.

* Then take a very thin sheet of metal- for example a piece of a Coke can
and cut it to a suitable size.

* Then use epoxy glue type Araldite in order to glue this thin metal =
piece
on the inside of the plastic casing.

As I said, I have not tried this but it should work and with this kind of
reinforcement, a big crack shouldn't appear- I guess... Check first so =
you
get enough of space when this extra metal is in place so the screen still
can fit inside the plastics.


Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 09:52:05 -0500
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              Kevin Calman <codex@EARTHLING.NET>
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Earl T. Benson wrote:
> What can I do to avoid a broken hinge?  (Other than not using the
> machine itself!!)
        Well, don't do what I did: ignore it! I noticed a hinge crack after
using my HP100LX/1MB for over a year, and within three weeks of noticing
it, the hinge disintegrated and the system is virtually unusable. If you
noice it, fix it immediately.
        FYI, if you don't want to risk the repair yourself or have a unit with
an ugly patch, you might consider having HP service the unit
out-of-warranty. I checked this out, and for my machine they charge a
flat $175 fee for "service". This really means they do a complete
refurbish job, replacing lost or broken parts, and if necessary
replacing the whole unit with another "from the same year". (Does HP
really stock old units for the purpose of replacing service units?) Of
course, back up your system before sending it in, because they may
lobotomize it.
        To pursue this option, call HP at 970/635-1000, and/or mail your unit
to:
        Hewlett-Packard Corp, Corvallis Service Center
        1030 NE Circle Blvd, Bldg #11
        Corvallis, OR 97330
(BTW, I have no connection with HP, and cannot recommend for or against
HP's service option.)
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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 23:14:05 +0800
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Hi,

I have tried all the different e-mail programs and I highly appreciate =
the
work all the authors have put in so we in the 100/200LX community can use
our loved palmtop PC's for e-mail and web surfing.

However, I don't hesitate to say that I think that WWW/LX is the best
software for me and it's great! Frankly speaking, it's one of the best
softwares ever written for palmtop. WWW/LX has so many features that I
still, after many weeks usage, find new nice features to use.

Don't hesitate-  Try It!

Jorgen Wallgren

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 11:33:30 -0400
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> Today it's VERY difficult to find these kind of software and any other old
> DOS software which works on our 100/200LX palmtops. Yes, it's not legal
> (UNFORTUNATELY), but give they guy a break- he just trying to be nice to
> other DOS palmtop users.

"Being nice" would not involve the listowner as accomplice to a felony.

Send mails to individual listmembers instead.

> I guess that you have not been on this list for long since if you had,
> you deffinately called the police earlier.

Over a year.

> Some people did some "charity work" and I could not see any complaints
> then on this list...

I did see such. In fact, a long discussion of the legality of stealing
what the thieves chose to call "abandonware".

> Yes, piracy of commercial software is deffinately NOT accepted. But when
> we talk about Win 2 which most probably only some 200LX users want to
> have and MS have no interest in
           
You have this from Microsoft executives themselves? May I see the
correspondence?

My Amiga computer had some EXCELLENT sound-and-music software commercially
available for it. The parent company was bought out eventually by
Microsoft, and the Amiga software posted on Compuserve as copyrighted but
freely distributable.

To the best of my knowledge, this has NOT been done for Windows....

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 Jim Saklad                                      mailto:jimdoc@iname.com
 Amiga enthusiast     2nd generation anesthesiologist     Borzoi breeder
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     Computers have enabled man to make more mistakes in less time
              than any invention since automatic weapons.

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 12:38:06 -0300
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Subject:      How do I avoid hinge problems?

HP>I have been reading about hinge problems on 100/200lx's.   Yuk!!

HP>What can I do to avoid a broken hinge?  (Other than not using the
HP>machine itself!!)

   well.....my hp 200...is as strong as the first day


   close it VERY slowly... it works ! :)


   Martin
   Marseb@giga.com.ar

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 11:40:10 -0400
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> Today it's VERY difficult to find these kind of software and any other old
> DOS software which works on our 100/200LX palmtops. Yes, it's not legal

See my reply off-list....

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> > Today it's VERY difficult to find these kind of software and any =
other old
> > DOS software which works on our 100/200LX palmtops. Yes, it's not =
legal
> > (UNFORTUNATELY), but give they guy a break- he just trying to be nice =
to
> > other DOS palmtop users.
>
> "Being nice" would not involve the listowner as accomplice to a felony.
>
I am not saying that this was right. What I say is that there are 2 ways
to tell people what they are doing is not correct. One way is to "scream
police" and they other way it to nicely correct the person. The second =
way
is deffinately nicer when this person didn't have any bad intentions.

Jorgen

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On Wed, 6 May 1998 16:43:48 -0400 (EDT), Jim Saklad wrote:

Hey, what is it about lurkers like you? Your kind just seems to lurk around and kill
anything that we guys want to do for others.
>I don't plan to (it would be too much trouble, and God knows, I don't want
>to help MS with ANYthing!), but I don't consider a "central point"  where
>you illegally provide unauthorized access to commercial software for the
>"benefit" of third parties a "helpsite"!
illegal? Yes illegal. So tell me, WHERE can you buy a licensed version of
Win2.03+word1+excel2? Or maybe say a copy of PCtools 4.3? Hmmm. Maybe also a
copy of Death Track? Sure, I can pay for them. I paid about S$150 for my Wing
Commander III pack. But it's the matter of availability. You never heard of the concept of
abandonware? Sure, it's a "vigilantee" kind of concept, but if it can help, I don't see why
I can't do my part. Commercial, yes, but OBSOLETE, UNAVAILABLE commercial.
Benefits, I believe it DOES help many on the list, especially those that might have a
specific need for MATLAB, AUTOCAD, etc.... Try getting a Bloatware Windoze 95
version onto the palmtop. Go ahead. It's licensed.

>> Then, it's all because of YOU. Remember that.
>Thank you. I shall consider that a compliment. My good deed for today.
Certainly, don't let me take that away from a sick person, both in mind and heart. You
have your rights, and even though they wouldn't apply here in Singapore, it's a respect
I give to a foreign contact.

>To The List - and especially the List Manager:
>Please delete this individual's posting from the archive, so as to
>minimize your (unwilling) complicity in his criminal activities
>(publishing his message). I think it would also be prudent to disavow
>his actions here on the list, and reiterate some quideline for list
>activity in this area.
Al, If you will, do delete all references to my message. I guess some BIG BROTHER is
COMMANDING you to BAN me off the list.

>Since his message was initially sent to YOU, you might also consider
>notifying his ISP as to the use he is putting their equipment to.
Heh... It's as if I am earning millions off their equipment, or using them for a spam site, or
having nuke instructions.... Ain't I someone dangerous...

PS. It just takes one message like this to sour my "want" to return the gratitude I gotten
off the list. Seems that some people are just ITCHING to be "righteous"; Guess they
have no life outside, so they have to find fights here on the Internet... So I am fine by it.
... Windows is made by MicroSOFT, not MicroGOOD, MicroRIGHT, or MicroFAST.

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I do not know what causes this but I have had a similar problem.  I have
a 200LX that ran a long time (many days between charges via ABC/LX).  I
sent it in for a speed and memory (6 meg) upgrade and since then it ran
down the same batteries much faster.  I assumed that this was from the
speed and memory upgrade.  A few months ago, I had a system crash.
Something messed up a bunch of files and I was getting programs crashing
and not starting.  I re-initialized the memory and reinstalled
everything from a backup and from scratch.  I had been doing a major
upgrade on my home machine and some files (my palmtop backups included)
became corrupted also.  Therefor for the most part, the palmtop rebuild
was from scratch for the programs I keep on it.  Since then, still using
ABC/LX, the same palmtop with the same software running on it not runs
for 14 or so hours, a week or so between charges.  A week when I used to
have to charge it every other day!!!!  I don't understand it but there
it is.....

Dan Carrington


Bill Gossage wrote:

> I use duracell batteries in my HP200, in the slot is a EXP 8meg with
> modem card.  I used to get 15-20 hours per set of batteries.
>
> The last month it has dropped down to 4-5 hours.
>
> I havene't been using the modem at all, the serial port is locked off
> thru buddy.
>
> What can be causing this????
>
> Bill
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> need PALRUN (available in our Web page). The LXPIC addition is
> coolest on the desktop!

This is the start of a new thread, but here goes anyway...

I am not sure that I am getting the full use out of this new LXPIC/HV =
integration. Should I still be setting LXPIC as an external viewer as =
well as setting LXPIC=3DYES in the HV.CFG file? What constitutes an =
"inline" image so HV will be able to use the new functionality? I ask =
this because most of the time when I encounter a JPEG, HV just prompts me =
to save the file to disk with no option to view. For GIFs, it asks me if =
I would like to display them after they have downlaoded.

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Date:         Wed, 6 May 1998 22:40:22 +0700
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Guys,

I came across the following tip on "ToDo List".
I hope you find it helpful, as I do.

Cheers,
Sentot AB

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From: Crombie Redd <crombie@NETSPACE.NET.AU>
To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu <HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu>
Date: Wednesday, May 06, 1998 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: Moving to do's within same priority


Peter,

Similar to what Michael suggested but I group within broad "action" areas,
with a general group called DO for those things that haven't as yet been
broken done into actionable steps. viz

A*************************DO (this acts as a header)
A1 Check Rewards programmes
A1 Order from RAM (all the stuff I have to order would be in a note)
A9 Words to look up (again in a note)
C**********************PHONE CALLS (header again)
C1 Evelyn
C4 Johanna re drinks
C9 Melissa re 15/16 off
D***********************DELEGATED (header again)
D1 Hamish (details in a note)
L***********************LETTERS, FAX,E-MAIL (header again)
L1 Bruce Pierce
L1 Fax Lachlan
L5 Clare timetable
L5 Merryn timetable
P***********************PROGRESS
P1 Roche re "Emergency Rapid Reference" (for things I've actioned but now
dependent on them)
V***********************VISIT
V1 Brett's rooms re computer
V1 Deirdre Brown re computer
V1Terry Mullaney
V2 Charlie - CVA
V9 Michael Anderton re Power Point
Z0***********************COMPLETED

all the things marked as completed will end up here.

I find this a useful way of doing things because I like to group action
things. ie it's more effective for me to do all my phone calls at once or
write my letters together rather than 1 phone call / letter etc.

Hope this helps. Regards, Crombie Redd

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Subject:      Re: WWW/lx, Goin' Postal vs Nettamer
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On Wed, 6 May 1998 14:18:08 -0700, Steven Lawson wrote:

>I think it would be cool to see some end-user comparisons of
>all the email solutions.  (I guess this counts as a "Me Too!" :-)

I'm not in a position to give full comparisons of all the products, but
offer the following comments for discussion.

My requirement is for something to do email, and also news if possible, =
on
the HP from time to time. I don't intend to use the HP for these purposes
greatly, and rely on my desktop machine for the majority of my
communications.

Nettamer:
I have a registered copy of this, because at the price (USD35) I got a
working solution which hasn't cost an arm and a leg. It's user interface
does indeed leave something to be desired, but it works well and does all
the other useful things like ftp and WWW. I can leave mail on the server
for later collection on my desktop machine, which is important to me.

POST/LX:
I have a copy of HV which is part of the suite, and am very impressed =
with
the user interface. I don't have the rest of the product, so cannot =
comment
on its ease of use for mail and news. However, the registration fee is, I
believe, too high for something I will rarely use. This is the one factor
which deters me from getting it. I would also like to know if it will =
leave
my mail on the server for later collection from my desktop machine.

Goin' Postal:
I've downloaded a copy to check out, but am currently put off by the fact
that I *have* to collect mail and cannot leave it on the server. =
Hopefully
this point will be corrected in a later release, at which time I would be
quite tempted to give it a go. The price is right at USD29, but it's not
too easy to send small amounts of money to the US from the rest of the
world :-(

LXTCP:
Rod Whitby's baby, and a damned fine idea it is too. Plus it's free! The
PNR user interface is excellent. However, I have still not got around to
actually running it because Rod appears to have left the sample
configuration files out of the archive and I don't currently have the =
time
to apply to working it all out. I'm sure someone who has it working on an
HP could post a simple "get you started" guide :-)

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 10:47:38 -0700
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Inline means the image is surrounded by text. What you
described tells me HV does not find LXPIC. Also, turn on image
display - Menu Options Gif (make sure it has a diamond on the
left.)

Also, LXPIC renders images much faster.

LXPIC must be in the same directory where HV is.

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 10:47:33 -0700
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Nicholas:

> Hey, what is it about lurkers like you? Your kind just seems to lurk =
around and kill
> anything that we guys want to do for others.

I am not a lurker and I agree with Jim. The issue is not
whether you have fun, but whether the fun yyou have infringes
on the property rights of someone lese, even if that someone
is Microsoft.

When someone takes your car for a short ride in the town, just
to have a little fun, mind you, do you get upset? Do you call
the the police and say "someone stole my car"? Or do you just
sit there and say, "oh well, they are just having fun". Don't
be naive - I have seen much smarter words come out of your
keyboard than that last post.

> illegal? Yes illegal. So tell me, WHERE can you buy a licensed version =
of
> Win2.03+word1+excel2? Or maybe say a copy of PCtools 4.3? Hmmm. Maybe =
also a

Your need for that version is not at issue. When you _need_, I
mean REALLY REALLY NEED money, do you normally go to the bank
and take it from them even if it is not in your account (or
hey, you haven't even an account there!) They call it
STEALING, you know. And you probably don't do this. So why is
your NEED for that software justifying STEALING it?

You have had much more thoughtful arguments before here, I
know I read this stuff, and I read your posts before.

> Al, If you will, do delete all references to my message. I guess some =
BIG BROTHER is
> COMMANDING you to BAN me off the list.

If you do something illegal, it would be really healthy for
_you_ to stand behind it, and be responsible for your actions.

> PS. It just takes one message like this to sour my "want" to return the =
gratitude I gotten
> off the list. Seems that some people are just ITCHING to be "righteous";=
 Guess they

Your itch shows all too brightly as well, Nicholas! If the
only reason you can say thank you is for the leads you got
here to obtain stolen software, then you need to look again at
the motives you have for coming to the list to begin with.

> have no life outside, so they have to find fights here on the Internet..=
. So I am fine by it.
> ... Windows is made by MicroSOFT, not MicroGOOD, MicroRIGHT, or MicroFAS=
T.

At least we share some distaste for the company, but that is a
far cry from making it ok to STEAL their property. Or the
property of any other company or person.

  Avi M. D&A

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Longden:

> I only meant that it would be unrealistic to expect a good businessman =
to
> promote or advertise the features of a rival product. "Honest" is =
clearly
> not the word I meant to convey.

This is totally different than the previous post. I agree that
I will not promote a rival product, EXCEPT: If the customer
has ZERO use of my product, and the "rival" fits perfectly,
I'll definitely suggest that as a solution. But then, it is
not a "rival" if I cannot offer a solution, but the other
product can, right <G>...

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 13:10:24 -0500
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Simtel is not dead. 20% of their files are less than 2 yrs. old. Try:
   http://oak.oakland.edu/simtel.net/
When there, you may want to download simdos-l.zip, A one line listing
of the 15000 files in the dos collection. If you know your file name, I
think you
can also download files directly from www.shareware.com.

What does PASTE do? If you want to capture text that is/was on the screen
in
DOS mode, some of the scrollback TSRs have that option.

buffit30.zip   10324  910417  Memory resident screen scrollback utility
v3.0
scrlit18.zip    45506  960515  SCROLLit v1.8 screen scrollback buffer
utility

Chris Lott wrote:

> I'm looking for a UNIX-style utility called PASTE that I can run in
> DOS (either my palmtop or desktop).  I did a brief search on the
> internet, and didn't come up with anything.  (I did discover that the
> SIMTEL archives seem to have become history - good thing that I have
> a CD-ROM from Walnut Creek that a friend gave me a couple of years
> ago).  Anyway, any pointers to a PASTE program would be helpful.
>
> -Chris Lott
>
> ***********************************************************************
> R. Christopher Lott, P.E.                               lott@phase4.com
> Phase IV Systems, Inc.                               alternate address:
> 3405 Triana Blvd, SW                                      rclott@ro.com
> Huntsville, AL  35805
> ***********************************************************************

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 15:06:23 -0400
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If you are unaware, the GNUish project, which is mirrored at the various
Simtel sites, has DOS and OS/2 ports of a variety of UNIX apps, complete
with source code and MAN pages. They are usually non-compressed, so throw
them through Diet or PKLITE before use.
>Chris Lott wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a UNIX-style utility called PASTE that I can run in
>> DOS (either my palmtop or desktop).  I did a brief search on the
>> internet, and didn't come up with anything.  (I did discover that the
>> SIMTEL archives seem to have become history - good thing that I have
>> a CD-ROM from Walnut Creek that a friend gave me a couple of years
>> ago).  Anyway, any pointers to a PASTE program would be helpful.
>>
>> -Chris Lott

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 00:33:46 +0000
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After a while, I have decided that the HP-CORP page is to be just Poor Man's
Resource site. No links, no abandonware, nothing. Just how-to's. It's hard to believe
how many people can incriminate, can insult, can threaten a apparent friendly offer to
help a niche community.

It's hard too, to find out how money-grubbing Megacorps can be on freely distributing a
discontinued program that they sold in the 80's, and that they WILL NOT SELL
*TODAY*. It's a bad life... Ah well, I'd just take it as good HTML practise anyway.

To Jim, have a good life; I bet you must have never understood the joy of sharing. Too
bad.

To the MS employee, it doesn't surprise me. but if you think this will earn you a
promotion by telling MS about my *possible* plans on distributing a discontinued GUI
frontend to DOS, namely Win2.03, well, do what you will. I'd never liked MS in the first
place. Just that I never thought the employees had an attitude either.
... DOS is to OS/2 as a bicycle is to a Mack Truck

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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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I can see that my HP power supply is 12V, 750mA with negative spindle. =


A number of people on this list are apparently happily using a standard 1=
2V
power supplies @ 300mA (and one even an 800mA), even for charging NiCad's=
=2E
I have not seen any replies to these messages.

I could need an extra power supply; is it really OK to use just any
regulated 12V, 500mA power supply with negative polarity? =


I use the power supply for 1) charging NiCad's and 2) running the HP (aft=
er
turning charging off). If it makes any difference, I could avoid using th=
e
500mA for charging NiCad's.

Jorgen
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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 15:53:48 -0500
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I use the Radio Shack adapter without any problems. I use it along with
ABC/LX to charge my NiNh batteries from Times2Tech. Everything seems to
work just fine :) Good luck!

Jeff


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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 15:29:11 -0600
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Here's a question for the group . . . .=20

Is there way to go directly to Filer from a DOS prompt?

System Manager can't be resident because of memory constraints.  I've =
tried entering "200" with the extension parameter "FILER" (C:\200 FILER) =
but it doesn't work.  Is there a auto-execute file available when =
starting System Manager that would place me into Filer?

Any ideas?

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 17:50:26 -0400
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              Jim Saklad <jsaklad@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU>
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> It's hard too, to find out how money-grubbing Megacorps can be on freely distributing a
> discontinued program that they sold in the 80's, and that they WILL NOT SELL
> *TODAY*.

One perfectly valid reason for this position is to avoid the obligation of
supporting software they ahven sold for a decade and platforms that they
haven't written software _for_ for a decade.

> To Jim, have a good life; I bet you must have never understood the joy
> of sharing. Too bad.

"Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise."

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 18:13:35 -0400
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              Jim Saklad <jsaklad@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU>
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> You have your rights, and even though they wouldn't apply here in
> Singapore, it's a respect I give to a foreign contact.

My rights are not at issue here, or at risk by your proposed actions.

The rights that would be violated are those of the Microsoft Corporation,
and I believe that they do business in Singapore, and are therefore a
legal entity in that jurisdiction.

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 15:04:16 -0700
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Neil,

This is great discussions on the products. Thanks for chiming
in...

> POST/LX:

It is actually called WWW/LX Plus. Post/LX is a client within
that product that does email and newsgroups. HV is another
client within this product. Other clients available too -
Telnet, Ftp, GET, etc...

> However, the registration fee is, I
> believe, too high for something I will rarely use. This is the one =
factor

Are you still working from the notion the price of $119.00?
That is old price! New price for WWW/LX Plus v.2 is $89.00.

> I would also like to know if it will leave my mail on the
>  server for later collection from my desktop machine.

Yes, and then some! You can d/l mail headers only, then choose
which bodies (hehe...) to d/l. And you can decide to delete
something on the server without the body ever having been d/l,
or after, or whatever. I am tryin to convery that there is a
lot of functionality in that area. This is one of about 50
maybe 100 improvemtns from the prior version. Check out the
announcement. I have a features list (which will numb your
mind :) ...) and marked the new stuff with a star.

> LXTCP:

Oh, thanks. I did not know Rod was doing this! Interesting.

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 18:27:54 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Run time on batteries lower now??
Comments: To: Bill Gossage <goose@INTERACCESS.COM>
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->I use duracell batteries in my HP200, in the slot is a EXP 8meg with
->modem card.  I used to get 15-20 hours per set of batteries.
->The last month it has dropped down to 4-5 hours.
->I havene't been using the modem at all, the serial port is locked off
->thru buddy.
->What can be causing this????

I went through a similar problem on my HP 200 LX and actually sent out an
almost identical SOS.  I was getting 2-3 hours on rechargeables!  Mack
Baggette suggested something and I did it in desperation and it seems to
have worked.  In desperation, because it is drastic!

1 Back up ALL your software from the LX.
2 Reset the LX by removing BOTH batteries (this eliminated your C
drive!!!) 3 Leave the HP off with no batteries and unattached to AC for at
least 24 hours.
The LX is dead for 24+ hours. 4 Restart it and restore your software.

Don't understand why, but it worked for me.

(Baggette suggested that sometimes this drop in battery usage happens when
the motherboard is going bad.  Fortunately that was not my problem - I
hope.)

Another problem that has been mentioned here but not publicised enough is
the troubles caused by moving your HP contents from a 100 LX to a 200 LX.
I know because I had these problems and could not figure them out for a
whole year.  Some of the problems envolved BUDDY.  When you just move your
100LX contents to the 200 LX, you also move the BUDDY.env file which has
been setup for the old 100LX.  This is apparently not correct for the
200LX.  In my case double clicking on *.GDB files would open the database
BUT not load the *.gdb file I double clicked on.  Filer.ini worked fine
for all the other double clicked files, but would not work for the
database because it apparently could not find or change the db.env file.

It would work fine if buddy was unloaded (Ctrl -) but not with Buddy
loaded.  Drove me crazy!  Solution: delete your BUDDY.ENV file (actually
move it elsewhere from c:_dat) and buddy will create a new one for the 200
LX and you can then re-customize your Buddy.

I believe, without not being sure, that this also played a role in the
rapid battery usage.

Maybe someone more knowledgeable could expand on this and other similar
problems.

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 18:32:33 -0400
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Subject:      Re: How do I avoid hinge problems?
Comments: To: Kevin Calman <codex@EARTHLING.NET>
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->        FYI, if you don't want to risk the repair yourself or have a
->unit with an ugly patch, you might consider having HP service the unit
->out-of-warranty. I checked this out, and for my machine they charge a
->flat $175 fee for "service".

If I went that way, which may be the only way for most of us, there is
cheaper way to do it.  I believe either Thaddeus (Palmtop paper) or Mack
Baggette (the double clock and 32 MB upgrades people) will do it for $100
or so.

Disclaimer: No link with either one other than having used their services!

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 18:22:35 -0600
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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Organization: Phase IV Systems, Inc.
Subject:      Re: PASTE Utility
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> Simtel is not dead. 20% of their files are less than 2 yrs. old. Try:
>    http://oak.oakland.edu/simtel.net/

Well, something odd is going on.  Perhaps I don't exactly understand
what SIMTEL is.  In the past, when I wanted to look for something on
SIMTEL online, I did a search, and the various search engines
usually returned this URL: http://ftp.coast.net/Coast/.  Well, when
I went there today, they had this message posted: "Due to Coast to
Coast's rapid growth, we are currently redesigning our website to
bring you the latest products and information. One change you'll
notice is the elimination of our Software Repository page."  I
obviously came to the wrong conclusion, as I have been given some
good URLs that also point to different SIMTEL archives.  Perhaps
someone could explain exactly what SIMTEL is and the relationship
between SIMTEL and these multiple SIMTEL archives sites.

> What does PASTE do? If you want to capture text that is/was on the
> screen in DOS mode, some of the scrollback TSRs have that option.

No, nothing like that.  It is used to "paste" together fields from
two different text files, sort of the opposite of the CUT command.  I
don't think the utilities you mentioned would be what I need.  Thanks
anyway, and also thanks for clearing up this SIMTEL thing.

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 18:30:16 -0600
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> If you are unaware, the GNUish project, which is mirrored at the various
> Simtel sites, has DOS and OS/2 ports of a variety of UNIX apps, complete
> with source code and MAN pages. They are usually non-compressed, so throw
> them through Diet or PKLITE before use.

Thanks for the tip.  PASTE wasn't in the regular SIMTEL archives, but
this GNUish project was just what I needed.  There was a collection
of file utilities that I downloaded that included GNU versions of CUT
and PASTE, amongst other utilities.  Thanks for the tip.

I'll let you know how they work out.

-Chris Lott

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I wrote about a week ago regarding this subject.  I contacted the
author of the COMLINK program as suggested. He didn't have any ideas
as to why my program was locking up upon the modem connecting - he
didn't experience this.  One reason we postulated was that he used
Power Basic to write his program, while I used C.

But in the process, I downloaded both COMLINK and a similar program
called COMMCHK from SUPER, and they both worked so well that I have
abandoned any further efforts of writing this program.  They both
worked just like a champ.  Perhaps I will also contact the author of
COMMCHK and see what programming language he used...

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 16:28:01 -0700
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> Yes, and then some! You can d/l mail headers only, then choose
> which bodies (hehe...) to d/l. And you can decide to delete
> something on the server without the body ever having been d/l,

Interesting, that's a feature that will be part of GP 2.XX - I
wonder how close to a real lightbulb I'm reinventing :-)

Reminds me of the day I realized I reinvented the Windows
message loop and input focus concepts.  Really - I had written
these popup textbox subroutines for a distributed BASIC application
I was writing (the network was pre-ethernet and ran on video
backup boards).  I had totally different names for the operations
I was doing to handle asyncronous network events and changing the
keyboard between popups these events triggered - but when I started
reading about programming in Windows I smacked myself on the
forehead.  Anyway, it turned out to be an awesome way to write
BASIC code driven by asynchronous network activity.

Tomorrow I'm going to start working on this neat concept for a
thing with four wheels that is powered by burning oil products :-)

I've been doing this too long I think.  :-)  One of my early projects
was taking an Intel 8085 design kit and generating amateur radio
slow-scan TV patterns using nothing but timing loops to generate the
proper tones from a parallel port pin.  Now that the old 8-second
black & white format is all but dead, I'm starting to toy with
the idea of rejuvinating it on the HP (maybe including a Connectix
Quickcam!).  Took me 10 minutes to code an app that generated the
tones in C, on the 8085 it took me two days with pencil, paper, and
a 8085 opcode card (and this time, I didn't even count instruction
cycles!).  Still have the 8085, wish I could find that paper!

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 18:53:18 -0500
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Subject:      GP vs WWW/LX Plus

I posted a message yesterday evening about my experiences using both 'goin
Postal and forgot to mention a couple og things. I forgot to mention the
fact that GP allows you to shell out of the program while keeping the packet
driver loaded. By doing this you can use one of the many PPP apps for DOS
available on the net. I currently use MT, which is a nifty little telnet
program, the FTP program by Rod (sorry I forgot your last name) and Voice
which is a DOS IRC client.

WWW/LX, from what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong Avi), there are also
some external apps which have been written for WWW/LX. Among these are a
telnet client and FTP client.

Currently 'Goin Postal does not have the ability to download just mail
subject headers, but I understand that this is right around the corner :)
Steve's pet project just keeps getting better & better.

I was sort of wary of posting my views of each product, but I must say that
this has turned into quite an intelligent converstaion here on the list. I
haven't been flamed once =) It's nice to be able to exchange ideas and
thoughts in such a mature matter.

Jeff


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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 19:00:05 -0500
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Subject:      An idea!!!

While I'm thinking about external apps for both 'Goin Postal and WWW/LX,
what's the odds of someone writing a real IRC client designed exclusively
for use on the palmtop? Maybe one that could do dcc send & get. I'm
currently using Voice on the palmtop. It's an okay, program but it was never
developed past it's beta state and while it does offer a somewhat decent
emulation of ircII it can't do dcc comands and it can't load scripts and it
doesn't do IDENTD so it can't connect to some IRC servers. Maybe one of the
talented software developers we have here on the list could write a little
code for the rest of us non-programmers :) Or maybe someone could download a
copy of voice and hack it to completion. Just an idea to think about......

Jeff


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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 10:11:09 +1000
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I have just recieved a XJ2144 for the US (I'm in Melbourne/Australia)
but each time I try to use it receive a NO DIALTONE message.
I try with an 200LX and a laptop.

Is some one in australia use this modem?
Is there a string to send to it before dtxxxxx?

thanx to help me.
Alain
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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A. Meshar wrote:

 > When someone takes your car for a short ride in the town, just
 > to have a little fun, mind you, do you get upset?
...

> do you normally go to the bank
 > and take it from them even if it is not in your account

Avi, these analogies just don't hold any water.  A COPY of an abandoned
program is not a commodoty like money or cars.  Taking a copy of software,
albeit "owned" by the programmer/company, is not taking the original
software.  Yes, it is illegal, but its effects are not comparable to
stealing a car or money, which are finite in quantity.  How is the owner
out anything, especially when they don't sell it?

Yeah, it meets the *fanatic's* definition of "stealing" but then, using
your company's e-mail and phone is also stealing...

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On Thu, 7 May 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:

> I was sort of wary of posting my views of each product, but I must say that
> this has turned into quite an intelligent converstaion here on the list. I
> haven't been flamed once =) It's nice to be able to exchange ideas and
> thoughts in such a mature matter.

Jeff:

You idiot!  How dare you post opinions on a public list!  I'll kill you
all!  I'll...

Oh, sorry.  I just figured things were getting too civil around here, and
I was beginning to suspect that somebody had drugged up most of our
regular posters to make them docile.  However, I just got delivered a long
series of messages on the "abandonware" thread, so I see that our
flamethrowers are turned up brightly as usual.   :-)

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There a numerous precedents going back to the mid '80s regarding BBSes all
the way up to COmpuserve and AOL just a few weeks ago that have removed
culpability from ISPs, mailing list managers and other online information
providers WRT discussions of quasi-legal or illegal activities on their
services. These entities have been held time and again to be acting just
like the phone company, providing mass common carriage for community
communications at such volume as for it not to be practicable for them to
monitor and filter what goes through them. Some of these decisions cite
similar cases going back to the 20's and 30's regarding the Bell Telephone
System and similar issues of content over their media.

jsaklad@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU, you may want to consult your local legal
library or see NEXIS/LEXIS under the keywords "common carriage" and "undue
burden" in their Telecom and/or 1st Amendment Law section.

Relax folks, I don't think we have much if anything to fear...

----Steve

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 20:36:30 -0400
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> Avi, these analogies just don't hold any water.  A COPY of an abandoned
> program is not a commodoty like money or cars.  Taking a copy of software,
> albeit "owned" by the programmer/company, is not taking the original
> software.  Yes, it is illegal, but its effects are not comparable to
> stealing a car or money, which are finite in quantity.  How is the owner
> out anything, especially when they don't sell it?

Were you under the impression that Microsoft only "owns" the original
copy of Windows 95? And "just sells copies"?

You're wrong.

Microsoft _sells_ a license to USE a copy of their software. Anyone who
does not purchase the license has no legal right to install the software
on their computer.

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 19:37:10 -0500
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On Thu, 7 May 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> Jeff:
>
> You idiot!  How dare you post opinions on a public list!  I'll kill you
> all!  I'll...
>
> Oh, sorry.  I just figured things were getting too civil around here, and
> I was beginning to suspect that somebody had drugged up most of our
> regular posters to make them docile.  However, I just got delivered a long
> series of messages on the "abandonware" thread, so I see that our
> flamethrowers are turned up brightly as usual.   :-)

Hmmm..... maybe this is why Steven named his software Goin' Postal? :)
And to spice it up a bit more, I'm posting this message using my 200LX
via a linux account and using Pine, not GP or WWW/LX, hehehe =)

Hey David, I bet all the lurkers on this list freaked out when they
started reading this post <g> Everyone have a great day/night!

Jeff


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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 10:41:19 +1000
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of course I include AT before.
I try with some fax and com software and with ATSEND.
I'm able to comunicate with the modem(ATz,i,s...), answer when the line ring.
but not having the dialtone.

> Hi! Try atdtxxxxx and see if that does it. I think the addition of the at
> will do the trick. Good luck!
>
> Jeff
>
>
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Hi Jeff
of course I include AT before.
I try with some fax and com software and with ATSEND.
I'm able to comunicate with the modem(ATz,i,s...), answer when the line
ring. but not having the dialtone.
Thanx anyway for your answer and your
help
Alain

> Hi! Try atdtxxxxx and see if that does it. I think the addition of the at
> will do the trick. Good luck!
>
> Jeff
>
>
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>        | This message was generated & sent via a HP200LX Palmtop PC. |
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Al
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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 20:19:00 -0700
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This is certainly an interesting legal issue.  I have a question that some
of the more legally-experienced people on the list might be able to
answer with regard to the "abandonware" thread: when a person obtains an
illegal copy of a software program, who is at fault-- the person making
the copy available, or the person who downloads/receives a disk/whatever
and uses it?  Because it seems to me that, were somebody stupid, they
could use the "backup copy" clause in almost every software license
agreement to distribute pirate copies of software and get away with it.
Something like this:

Panel of federal judges: Isn't it true, Mr. Jones, that you posted a copy
of "Microsoft Publisher 98" up on your web site for people to download?

Jones: No, I was just making a backup copy like it says I can, here in the
license agreement.  And it happened to be on a web-accessible part of my
computer.

Panel of federal judges: ... Oh.  Hmm.


Of course, in reality I doubt this would hold up.  But does anybody have
any real data?  Who is responsible for software piracy in this case?

Any ideas?

Perhaps this is a thread that should be continued off the list...?


On Thu, 7 May 1998, The Armadillo with the Mask wrote:

> There a numerous precedents going back to the mid '80s regarding BBSes all
> the way up to COmpuserve and AOL just a few weeks ago that have removed
> culpability from ISPs, mailing list managers and other online information
> providers WRT discussions of quasi-legal or illegal activities on their
> services. These entities have been held time and again to be acting just
> like the phone company, providing mass common carriage for community
> communications at such volume as for it not to be practicable for them to
> monitor and filter what goes through them. Some of these decisions cite
> similar cases going back to the 20's and 30's regarding the Bell Telephone
> System and similar issues of content over their media.
>
> jsaklad@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU, you may want to consult your local legal
> library or see NEXIS/LEXIS under the keywords "common carriage" and "undue
> burden" in their Telecom and/or 1st Amendment Law section.
>
> Relax folks, I don't think we have much if anything to fear...
>
> ----Steve
>
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Bill I have a similar experience

The batteries are marked Jan 2002..  Anyone else had this happen??

Is it a bad batch?  or is there a degradation of Duracell quality??  I
bought mine in a 10pack budget set..  Maybe they are lower quality??

How would I go about testing as I still have 6 left..  I will only use these
in walkman etc..not my LX...Data too valuable..  :))

Russell



At 08:18 AM 7/05/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I use duracell batteries in my HP200, in the slot is a EXP 8meg with
>modem card.  I used to get 15-20 hours per set of batteries.
>
>The last month it has dropped down to 4-5 hours.
>
>I havene't been using the modem at all, the serial port is locked off
>thru buddy.
>
>What can be causing this????
>
>Bill
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Not related to HP, but funny... what a philosophy!

BUS. Tuesday
GOOD FOR GATES, GOOD FOR AMERICA
As the heat rises in Microsoft's antitrust battle with the US
government, its chief warns that delaying Windows 98 beyond
a mid-May release date 'would hurt the American economy and
... cost American jobs.'
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/tip/business/story/12125.html

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 09:14:04 -0800
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              Chin Jien Hung <jienhung@SINGNET.COM.SG>
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Subject:      Phonebook Date Field Links to Appt.

Hi All,

I added date field in my Phonebook to record important dates link to that
person, always wanted to link them to Appointment to remind me of these
Event by sounding a alarm reminder. Does anyone having similar problem who
want to share his/her experiences.

TIA



Chin Jien Hung                        o__
jhchin@pacific.net.sg                _.>/)_
jienhung@singnet.com.sg             (_) \(_)

This message was send from a HP 700LX Palmtop with NOKIA cellular phone.
Small, mobile and extremely efficient :-D
Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v1.06beta) REGISTERED

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Hi,

    Recently I was faced with recommending some DOS software to a list member.
I contacted the company that produced the software and the DOS version was no
longer available.  The representative from the company suggested I quietly make
copies for the list member in need.  The official company policy stated this
action was taboo but the unofficial response was to make the software
available.  The bottom line is that experience with the discontinued DOS version
might lead to the eventual purchase of the latest Windoze version.  I should
also note that the company representative felt that the customer's need, which
they could no longer fill, should be met through an alternative approach.  It
would be nice if all software companies had such a constructive attitude.
        BTW, I don't feel like a criminal.  I make it a point to pay for all of
the software I use.  The only conscious crime I commit is exceeding the maximum
speed which I do regularly when safe conditions permit.

Colin

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Let's compare this discussion with sex. The similarity is the
huge difference between what people say and what people do. Let
me have a look at any computer and I'm sure, I will find a
piece of software on it, which did not take the legal way to
it. It's in the human nature, to take what you can get, no
matter if it is software or sex. There is a german saying:
"Opportunity makes thieves". There are so many opportunities
concerning software. And doctors know from what they have to
heal every day, that there must be a similar amount of
opportunities concerning sex.

The lack is between what you accept for yourself and what you
want to allow others. How could our world be, if KANT's
imperative would be realized by everyone:

Live in a way, so that what you allow to yourself could always
be the basics of a general legislation.

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 20:54:49 -0500
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              BDK Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
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No wonder, it is the year 2000 problem!

(humor)

Russell Hemery wrote:

> Bill I have a similar experience
>
> The batteries are marked Jan 2002..  Anyone else had this happen??
>
> Is it a bad batch?  or is there a degradation of Duracell quality??  I
> bought mine in a 10pack budget set..  Maybe they are lower quality??
>
> How would I go about testing as I still have 6 left..  I will only use these
> in walkman etc..not my LX...Data too valuable..  :))
>
> Russell
>
>

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From:         Joe Buford <jebuford@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
Subject:      OmniGo?

     Does anyone have any info on the OmniGo? Availability? Price?

     I have a friend who is interested in a PDA "like" my 100lx but up to
     only ~$200. I've told him about used 200lx"s for approx. that price
     but he wants NEW.

     BTW- I saw a Palm Pilot Professional at Costco for $180. Sound like a
     good deal? (I'll keep My 100lx).

     Also-I may have a crack at a 200lx 2MB with a broken LCD screen. How
     much is FAIR to pay for it. Is the LCD on the 100lx & 95lx the same?
     perhaps I can get a broken 100lx to repair this one? ( I'm
     Electronically/Mechanically Handy.


     One Last Question-Is their any software to back up my 100lx using an
     NT based PC? Any lx emulators that mimic the 100lx/200lx on an NT
     system?


     TIA

     Joe Buford:-{>}

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 22:25:51 -0400
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Hello,
    I have a new in the box HP100LX with HP AC adapter and a 2 MEG SRAM card
that I would like to sell.  The 100LX was made in 1994  and was purchased as
a backup to my 200LX.  I has been stored since purchase ( I did use it
enough to make sure it worked).  I would like to get $175 for everything.
It includes all original packaging.
Thank you,
Dale Richmond

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 20:19:47 -0700
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Comments: To: wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU
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I think you need something like ATX3DTnnn, that's supposed to make
it blind dial (the X3 is from memory, I'm not positive thats it)

> I have just recieved a XJ2144 for the US (I'm in Melbourne/Australia)
> but each time I try to use it receive a NO DIALTONE message.
> I try with an 200LX and a laptop.
>
> Is some one in australia use this modem?
> Is there a string to send to it before dtxxxxx?

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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 20:29:43 -0700
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> Let's compare this discussion with sex.

Now here's a tangent to this thread that peaks the interest.. :-)

Ohh, here's MS Works.. yes, and Win 3.0.. Oh yes!  WordPerfect!  Office!
YES! YES!  FASTER FASTER!

Nope, doesn't work.  More like:  Oh DOS.. Yes, Win 3.0..  Ohhh, Win95!
Win98!  SLOWER, SLOWER!!!  Yep, that sounds like it.  :-)

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 13:04:35 +0800
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              Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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At 08:54 PM 5/7/98 -0500, Bill wrote:
>The batteries are marked Jan 2002..  Anyone else had this happen??
>
>Is it a bad batch?  or is there a degradation of Duracell quality??  I
>bought mine in a 10pack budget set..  Maybe they are lower quality??
>
>How would I go about testing as I still have 6 left..  I will only use these
>in walkman etc..not my LX...Data too valuable..  :))

I have similar experiences with Duracell alkalines, they have short life on
palmtop. Now I use NiCd, more lasting and environmental friendly.

Cheers.

Chin Jien Hung                    o__
jhchin@pacific.net.sg            _.>/)_
jienhung@singnet.com.sg         (_) \(_)

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Steve:

> Interesting, that's a feature that will be part of GP 2.XX - I
> wonder how close to a real lightbulb I'm reinventing :-)

Oh-oh! Here goes, product espionage! :-) - Enjoy the job...

>  Reminds me of the day I realized I reinvented the Windows
> message loop and input focus concepts.  Really - I had written

ROFL! That is funny. I did something many years ago in a
commercial product. That piece we needed was just not there,
so the fool that I was I just wrote it. And it worked. Then
the vendor came by, looked, and looked, and asked if they cane
get a copy. Then it was included in their next version they
tried to sell us. Including some of my funny jokes in the
comments! Hmmmm. We asked for a substantial discount, and got
it.

> Tomorrow I'm going to start working on this neat concept for a
> thing with four wheels that is powered by burning oil products :-)

Suggest calling Daimler-Benz/Chrysler - just a catchy name for a mobile
contraption, no? Lengthy - but unforgettable <G>...

I want a copy when it works!

Good luck on the other projects!

  Avi M. D&A

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i'm not trying to promote or chastise anyone's statements or actions. i
just don't like the idea of an archive being altered. if some text
message was in the public domain once, for all to see and note, let it
stay there for all to see/judge. i was going to provide an argument that
i feel is intelligent, but i will instead simply offer it as my
opinion/preference. and if you feel the need, like johnny storm of
Fantastic 4 would say "flame on !"

richard bueker
>
> > To The List - and especially the List Manager:
> >
> > Please delete this individual's posting from the archive, so as to
> > minimize your (unwilling) complicity in his criminal activities
> > (publishing his message). I think it would also be prudent to disavow

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Jeff,

> While I'm thinking about external apps for both 'Goin Postal and =
WWW/LX,
> what's the odds of someone writing a real IRC client designed exclusivel=
y
> for use on the palmtop?

Don't know much about it. In all the time we have been selling
WWW/LX, there were 3 or 4 requests TOTAL for this.

Andreas will have to say himself if he wants to spend time on
this.

  Avi M. D&A

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Colin,

The people in the company that suggested to you to copy the
software are stupid beyond belief! Not only is it important to
state and restate your ownership of company's assets, but
these must be protected vigilantly. If the people who make the
policy in that mythical company had to answer to shareholders
asking about that vigilance, they'd be sacked instantly for
not vigorously protecting the company's assets.

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Jeff

> WWW/LX, from what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong Avi), there are =
also
> some external apps which have been written for WWW/LX. Among these are =
a
> telnet client and FTP client.

Yes, there are clients aside from HV and Post/LX - as you
mention.

The way I run WWW/LX is to fire up COMMAND.COM. You do it in
WWWSETUP.EXE where it usually suggests to fire up HV. Instead
type in D:|DOS\COMMAND.COM.

When you run WWW.EXE you get a DOS prompt, and then you can
fire up HV, or Post/LX or FTP, or ... And in between you can
even run other programs from DOS (provided there is enough
memory available) to do other stuff!

> Currently 'Goin Postal does not have the ability to download just mail
> subject headers, but I understand that this is right around the corner =
:)
> Steve's pet project just keeps getting better & better.

Steve posted he is going to do it.

> I was sort of wary of posting my views of each product, but I must say =
that
> this has turned into quite an intelligent converstaion here on the =
list. I
> haven't been flamed once =3D) It's nice to be able to exchange ideas =
and
> thoughts in such a mature matter.

I think the participant and the major players (such as you)
set the tone of openness and discussion that benefits all
sides. It works. BTW, if you miss flaming I'll send you some
but not in public, just you feel good, eh? ;-) ... If you
reallt want to get going on flames, give us an opinion of how
Law Enforcement would perceive the use software well... you
know the thread! :)

  Avi M. D&A

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I usually don't like to communicate with a nameless "thing".

> Avi, these analogies just don't hold any water.  A COPY of an abandoned
> program is not a commodoty like money or cars.  Taking a copy of =
software,
> albeit "owned" by the programmer/company, is not taking the original
> software.  Yes, it is illegal, but its effects are not comparable to
> stealing a car or money, which are finite in quantity.  How is the =
owner
> out anything, especially when they don't sell it?

I think you are playing a semantic game with the words. There
is no such thing a abandoned software except in the
convenience of your own mind. When some big company (or
little) takes you to taks on this you will have to make even
more gymnastics you did here.

Let's cut through all the bull: This copy does not belong to
you, it belongs to someone else. If they want to stop selling
_their_ software you have no standing whatsoever in this
decision - plainly speaking it is none of your business!

If you decide to let your car rot, despite people wanting to
buy it from you - for whatever reasons - it is totally, and
entirely _your_ decision. That some company made a decision
about their software is entirely _their_ business, and you
have ZERO to say about it.

So for you to take this property, that is not yours, and give
it to others has only one description: You take something that
is not yours away from someone who owns it and should have all
the rights to do with it as _they_ please, not as _you_
please. In my dictionaries, the concensus is that this action
is stealing.

All your mental gymnastics are great, but they boil to one
thing, a lame rationalization! It is like saying, "Gee Judge,
it was not me stealing, it was my arm!"

Give us all a break, don't insult our intelligence. You want
to do what you do, don't expect to get a great big welcome in
most places, although you clearly have a few people who lost
their brains and ethics.

> Yeah, it meets the *fanatic's* definition of "stealing" but then, using
> your company's e-mail and phone is also stealing...

It would be a stunning achievement for you if you knew what
the heck you are talking about! In this case, my company phone
and email are used to promote the interest of our company, not
to idly blab semantic gymnastics!

It is my wish that someone does to you what you do to others.
Perhaps then you would start to develop some sense of ethics.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 08:12:42 +0000
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At 13:04 08.05.98 +0800, you wrote:

>I have similar experiences with Duracell alkalines, they have short life on
>palmtop. Now I use NiCd, more lasting and environmental friendly.

NiCD contains Cadmium (strong poison) and is _not_ environmental friendly.
Say NiMH (Nickel Metal Hydride) and it sounds better, and they have higher
capacity, but also some disadvantage.
For a palmtop (or other equipment) not used every day, NiMH is maybe not the
best choice, because of it's high self-discharge.
--

Reino S=F8rlie, 9008 4748 (privat mobil), 6707 2858 (hjem).

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 16:05:27 +0930
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Neil Tungate <neil@SKIPPER.DEMON.CO.UK> writes:
> LXTCP:
> Rod Whitby's baby, and a damned fine idea it is too. Plus it's free! The
> PNR user interface is excellent.

I was *waiting* for somebody to mention LXTCP, so I could put in my
plug for it :-)

Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> writes:
> > LXTCP:
>
> Oh, thanks. I did not know Rod was doing this! Interesting.

LXTCP version 0.8 can be found at my web site (listed below).  It is a
command-line only TCP/IP development kit for the HP200LX series based
on the free WatTCP DOS TCP library. It includes Ping, FTP, STMP, POP
and NNTP clients.  It cooperates with the Palmtop News Reader (get
version 2.2 from my web site).  It allows you to use MSKermit for
telnet sessions.

As Neil pointed out, it's severely lacking on documentation at the
moment (you really need to download the source distribution to get the
real information), but there are a number of people who use it daily
for HP200LX connectivity.  Due to the lack of documentation, it is not
a program for newbies.

The thing that differentiates LXTCP from all other TCP/IP connectivity
solutions for the HP200LX that I know about (including WWW/LX, Goin'
Postal and Nettamer) is that LXTCP also works over a direct ethernet
connection (David Sargeant found this out for me), and you get the
source code so you can change and recompile it on your palmtop.

In fact, last month I received (via LXPOP) and read (with PNR) a bug
report for the NNTP client (LXNNTP), then fixed the bug (using MEMO),
recompiled (using Turbo C++ 2.0) and retested (in DOS, via Software
Carousel) the new version of LXNNTP, and sent the new version (via
LXPOP) back to the person who reported the bug all whilst dialed up
over a 14.4k line (MegaHertz XJ2144) _on_batteries_ (Eveready Lithium)
in an airport terminal in Los Angeles (which is over 7000km from where
I usually develop software).  Try doing that with anything other than
a HP200LX!

Note that LXTCP is *not* for the user-interface oriented.  It is a set
of command-line programs and will stay that way.  The Palmtop News
Reader provides the user interface for Mail and News.

Avi & Steven - Feel free to use any ideas you can get from LXTCP to
make WWW/LX and GP better products.

BTW, I'm not in competition with anyone, because I release all the
source code for my programs as my contribution back to the HP200LX
community.  I encourage all others who are not relying on HP200LX
product sales for their living to do the same, but at the same time I
respect the right of HP200LX product vendors to price their products
as they see fit. See my HP200LX Source Code Home Page (on my web site
listed below) for more details.

--
-- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation --
-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
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Date:         Thu, 7 May 1998 23:23:13 -0700
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I have heard that the latest version of Nattamer (v1.11) has added some
IRC capablity. You can't use the Palmtop version, unfortunately. It's in
the XT/286 (a little bit bigger than the PT version, but not much), and
the 386 version though. Of course, this is way overkill, unless you want
to use the rest of Nattamer too (it ain't no little client program).

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)

On Thu, 7 May 1998 19:00:05 -0500 Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> writes:
>While I'm thinking about external apps for both 'Goin Postal and WWW/LX,
>what's the odds of someone writing a real IRC client designed
exclusively
>for use on the palmtop? Maybe one that could do dcc send & get. I'm
>currently using Voice on the palmtop. It's an okay, program but it was
never
>developed past it's beta state and while it does offer a somewhat decent
>emulation of ircII it can't do dcc comands and it can't load scripts and
it
>doesn't do IDENTD so it can't connect to some IRC servers. Maybe one of
the
>talented software developers we have here on the list could write a
little
>code for the rest of us non-programmers :) Or maybe someone could
download a
>copy of voice and hack it to completion. Just an idea to think
>about......
>
>Jeff

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On Thu, 7 May 1998 08:50:49 -0400 Darren Frick <dfrick@SNIP.NET> writes:

>Nettamer v1.09 & 1.10:
>The con's:
>
>     I didn't get alot of satisfaction from the Web browser, but it
worked.
>Some things didn't line up right...
>
If what you are saying is what I'm hearing, I noticed that too. In both
TEXT and GRAPHICS modes some things seemed to be missing. I figured
either a graphic was obscuring some text at times, or paging-down would
leave a line unviewed. I never got back to the sites, using another
browser to check though.

>     The program lacks an editor, but the reader worked well enough, I
>always enjoyed being able to write my messages with memo.
> One is supposed to be able to use RED
>as the editor, or invoke ed200, but I couldn't get that to work
>satisfactorily - maybe I didn't try hard enough.

I changed absolutely nothing as far as editor setup when getting Nettamer
ready for use & had no problem using RED as an editor. Using MEMO as you
did would be an interesting alternative though.

>WWW/LX:
>
>Pro's:
>     Beautiful, well integrated full featured interface-- as a
>commercial product should be.
>     Fantastic WEB browser. Handles graphics very nicely thanks to
lxpic.
----------
>     Did I mention Beautiful, well integrated interface? It must be
>mentioned again. That and HV make this program well worth $89.

I guess I'm just going to have to download that demo, huh? I don't do
much WEB browsing with my 100lx. With a 14.4k modem and the less than
stellar view provided by Nettamer, I haven't seen the point. I mostly do
email and newgroups (which pretty much knocks Goin' Postal out of the
running, at this time). BTW, can graphics be turned off in WWW/LX to
speed things up?
>
>Darren

Thanks for your time and opinions, everyone!

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)

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Subject:      Re: OmniGo?
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>     Does anyone have any info on the OmniGo? Availability? Price?

If you're talking about the OmniGo 100/120, I own one:

It's a nice machine, but (compared to the 200LX):
1- The screen is smaller, but pen driven.
2- Has a quite complete keyboard (unlike the PalmPilot-type machines).
3- Runs GEOS, on top of a stripped down DOS 3.3. DOS mode is difficult to
get and not very usable with a 30x30 screen.
3- My machine is much more power hungry than my 2x HP200LX.
4- Has no external power plug, and thus cannot charge batteries.

I would say that it is a very nice machine, but the fact is that if you
want a pen based machine, with just PDA functionality, a PalmPilot (for
example) will be much lighter and powerful.

>     I have a friend who is interested in a PDA "like" my 100lx but up to
>     only ~$200. I've told him about used 200lx"s for approx. that price
>     but he wants NEW.

If he wants a PDA like your 200LX, he probably wants a keyboard. In this
case, IMHO, the 200LX is the best choice. The OmniGo is bigger, less
usable, and less powerful.

Regards. Nacho.

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On Thu, 7 May 1998, Colin Thompson wrote:

> The representative from the company suggested I quietly make
> copies for the list member in need.

I have had somewhat simular responces but the most common reply I've
received is what Starfish (who now owns Sidekick) told me.

I wanted to pass along sidekickPM to another OS/2 user.  After talking to
Borland they sent me to starfish.  They said have the person who wanted a
copy buy their current version. All they were concerned about is the paid
for licence.



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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 19:52:35 +1000
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Hi Alain,

I'm in Melbourne too! Mt Eliza in fact.

Never used that modem but I'll bet the problem is with DIAL TONE DETECT. You
must turn it off but using ATX3 as the init string. Try it. Good luck.

Crombie Redd

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 11:10:55 GMT
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 Alain Psyche:

I got my 2144 last week and had the same problem.  Took an hour or so
to find that the plug had to be seated completely through the pop out
connector for it to connect and react to the dial tone.
HTH
Shaun
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>I have just recieved a XJ2144 for the US (I'm in Melbourne/Australia)
>but each time I try to use it receive a NO DIALTONE message.
>I try with an 200LX and a laptop.
>
>Is some one in australia use this modem?
>Is there a string to send to it before dtxxxxx?
>
>thanx to help me.
>Alain
>Al
>Wyn@alphalink.com.au
>Melbourne / Australia
>http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn
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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 07:13:59 -0400
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> While I'm thinking about external apps for both 'Goin Postal and =
WWW/LX,
> what's the odds of someone writing a real IRC client designed exclusivel=
y
> for use on the palmtop?

Since some time, I have the idea of writing an Internet
telephone client for the palmtop. The client should be able to
handle WAV files with respect to:

-record
-send
-receive
-plav

A simple procedure could be:

1:connect to another user, equipped with the same software
2:record a WAV file or open a local stored WAV file
3:send it to the other side
4:wait for the answer (WAV file from the other side)
5:output the answer to the internal speaker
6:loop 2:

My problem is step 1: How can I connect to someone else, who's
email address I know? (and who has to be online indeed)

The ideal input device for voice on the palmtop is the MIKE unit,
matchbox sized, connected to the serial port of the palmtop
and described in VOICE.ZIP on s.u.p.e.r.

Without an input device, this software would only be a toy.

About a week ago, I asked already if someone can make such a
unit available to me, in order to write the recording part of
the software. But no response :(

I wrote a similar software in 1988 for an input device, connected
to the parallel port of a desktop. So I know, what I'm talking about.
Everything can be done in real time and in *VERY* little code.

WAV might not be the appropriate format, because it tends to
produce large files. I could switch to a slightly worse quality
delta modulated recording and playback, resulting in 1/8 of the
WAV filesize.

A typical delta modulated data chunk of 20KB would allow
10 seconds of recording/playback. A sufficient amount of time
to say a complete sentence, and still a reasonable filesize, to
send through the net.

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 21:58:37 -0700
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> Is there a auto-execute file available when starting System Manager > that would place me into Filer?

The program "Buddy" can do this by optionally running a boot up macro
which can be tailored to run any of the inbuilt applications in whatever
order you wish. I use it to open my three most used macro sets & then
leave me at the Application Manager screen. It really is a very useful
program.

Steven English

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 20:36:09 +0800
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> I wrote about a week ago regarding this subject.  I contacted the
> author of the COMLINK program as suggested. He didn't have any ideas
> as to why my program was locking up upon the modem connecting - he
> didn't experience this.  One reason we postulated was that he used
> Power Basic to write his program, while I used C.
>
> But in the process, I downloaded both COMLINK and a similar program
> called COMMCHK from SUPER, and they both worked so well that I have
> abandoned any further efforts of writing this program.  They both
> worked just like a champ.  Perhaps I will also contact the author of
> COMMCHK and see what programming language he used...
>
> -Chris Lott

Do you use a double speed HP 200LX? If so- that's your problem, not the
programming language. I have successfully done programming with the =
serial
port using Basic and C- but as soon as I use a double speed unit- the =
code
will not work. However, I don't have any problems with the serial port if
I make an EXM program on a double speed unit.

Jorgen

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 08:45:19 -0800
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On 1998-05-07 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Here's a question for the group . . . .=20
   >Is there way to go directly to Filer from a DOS prompt?
   >System Manager can't be resident because of memory constraints.
   >I've = tried entering "200" with the extension parameter "FILER"
   >(C:\200 = FILER) but it doesn't work.  Is there a auto-execute file
   >available = when starting System Manager that would place me into
   >Filer?
   >Any ideas?
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Try keystuff. I automatically launch stuff by packing the keyboard
buffer with 200, blues, menu, etc.
           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

Truthful: Dumb and illiterate.

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Registered

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 09:02:23 -0400
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> I guess I'm just going to have to download that demo, huh? I don't do
> much WEB browsing with my 100lx. With a 14.4k modem and the less than
> stellar view provided by Nettamer, I haven't seen the point. I mostly =
do
> email and newgroups (which pretty much knocks Goin' Postal out of the
> running, at this time). BTW, can graphics be turned off in WWW/LX to
> speed things up?
> >

Yes, graphics can be turned off. And you'll be suprised how snappy 14.4 =
is,
too.

Darren.

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 06:08:42 -0700
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Folks,

Someone was discussing databases for use on the palmtop. After reading
this I dug around and found my old paradox ver. 2 disks.  Ran an install
and then looked at the size. Without the personal programmer or the
samples it installed in 900k.  I ran it from dos and it ran fine.
Inports and exports dbase files, also 123 and ascii files. The menu system
is modeled on Lotus 123.

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Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET
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This discussion is getting out of hand and I had promised myself not to
get into it, but I can't hold myself.

Legally giving away copies of abandonware is illegal.  Will they go after
you, probably not if it is old software.

A more comparable situation is "out of print" books.  I go to the library
of Congress all the time.  They have numerous books out of print.  You
cannot get these books for purchase anywhere.  Is it illegal to copy them?
You betcha.  Does the library of congress allow you to?  You betcha.  They
have multiple photocopying machines complete with signs posted about the
copyright laws and hordes of people (including Library employees)
photocopying entire books all day long.

Same thing in most libraries, but more effective as an example in the seat
of government.

Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 21:27:24 +0800
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Hi,

I would be more than willing to build a unit. But my problem is that I
can't find the right IC chips here in Singapore. If anyone can find those
and send me a bunch of it, I will build the unit and try it out.

Jorgen


> The ideal input device for voice on the palmtop is the MIKE unit,
> matchbox sized, connected to the serial port of the palmtop
> and described in VOICE.ZIP on s.u.p.e.r.
>
> Without an input device, this software would only be a toy.
>
> About a week ago, I asked already if someone can make such a
> unit available to me, in order to write the recording part of
> the software. But no response :(

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> Steven Lawson said........
>
> >Now here's a tangent to this thread that peaks the interest.. :-)
>
        >Ohh, here's MS Works.. yes, and Win 3.0.. Oh yes!  WordPerfect!
Office!
        >YES! YES!  FASTER FASTER!

        >Nope, doesn't work.  More like:  Oh DOS.. Yes, Win 3.0..  Ohhh,
Win95!
        >Win98!  SLOWER, SLOWER!!!  Yep, that sounds like it.  :-)

Well.....actually.... slower can be better. Besides the fact you get
multitasking too :-).


Jon

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> Do you use a double speed HP 200LX? If so- that's your problem, not the
> programming language. I have successfully done programming with the serial
> port using Basic and C- but as soon as I use a double speed unit- the code
> will not work. However, I don't have any problems with the serial port if
> I make an EXM program on a double speed unit.

No, this wasn't the problem.  While I now have a double speed unit,
at the time I was first writing the program and experiencing this
perplexing bug, it was only a single speed.  The COMLINK and COMMCHK
utilities, one written in Power Basic, both appear to run
satisfactorily on my now double-speed palmtop.  Interesting...

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 10:49:30 -0400
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brand new in box 75.00 shipped. this is the model with the cable and
upgradeable to 33k
thanks
mike

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 10:22:44 -0500
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As I have just added my signature file, you may be able to discern my
point of view.  What is 'legal' and not 'legal' isn't always clearcut.
Of course no one has hired me to give a legal opinion (and don't rely on
these posts without actually getting real advice) but since I teach a
class on Antitrust and Misuse Aspects of Intellectual Property, I'll
take the liberty of giving you an academic perspective.  You can form
your own opinion.

Software licenses exist based on (mainly) the copyright laws.  The
copyright laws have a "fair use" defense.  You need to follow the shrink
wrap license or send the software back for a refund, but may have some
additional rights.  It is probably clear you can, for example, keep a
backup copy.  It may be permissable to copy portions for scholarly,
scientific or commentary purposes.  If you want to criticize Microsoft,
you can probably copy something to use as an example.  This is
consistent with free speech.  This does not, however, necessarily permit
redistribution of software.

Let's consider something else, however.  Copyright law can be misused to
violate the antitrust laws.  Just as the movie studios were acting
illegally when they forced TV stations to take package licenses, (if you
wanted "Casablanca" in the '60's you had to take "Gorilla Man") someone
who has monopoly power cannot necessarily get away with whatever they
want.  Suppose, for example, that you had a copy of Windows 95 that came
illegally bundled with Internet Explorer.  This might be a copy
regarding which Microsoft could not exact a royalty, until it purges
itself of an antitrust violation.  When I say "may" or "might" be sure
you pay attention.

Of course, contrary arguments exist.  Microsoft argues IE+Win is a
single product, not a tie in.  If they win, it's a good defense.

Similarly, the illegal act of the software author has to be connected to
the software regarding which there is misuse.  Another example was a
software license that went on for 100 years.  This was an unenforceable
license because the copyright only lasted for 75 years.  The royalties
went on after the work would be in the public domain, so the license was
illegal.

The situation discussed here might not be a situation of either fair use
or of misuse by the copyright owner, but these are kind of a different
perspective.

I'm not saying what anyone did is legal or illegal. The situation
doesn't involve a bright line, border, it's more of a fuzzy gray band.

If you have specific questions, a more confidential means of
communication would be a good idea.


Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> Hi There,
>
> > On Wed, 6 May 1998, Nicholas Chan wrote:
> >
> > > 1.) Get all my oldwarez onto it that many people are looking for.
> (ie. Win3.0 with Word)
> > > 2.) Have a central point for ALL old programs lookers (meaning
> links to wyn's site and
> > > comports site) in the format of SUPER
> > > 3.) Have people with rare gemz like Win2.03 with Word and Excel in
> shrinkwrap to put
> > > them up for other fellow HPLX guys to use and enjoy.
> >
> > And why don't we just forward your mail directly to Microsoft so
> they know
> > to prosecute you as you as you do this....
>
> >  Jim Saklad
> mailto:jimdoc@iname.com
>
> Today it's VERY difficult to find these kind of software and any other
> old
> DOS software which works on our 100/200LX palmtops. Yes, it's not
> legal
> (UNFORTUNATELY), but give they guy a break- he just trying to be nice
> to
> other DOS palmtop users. I guess that you have not been on this list
> for
> long since if you had, you deffinately called the police earlier. Some
>
> people did some "charity work" and I could not see any complaints then
> on
> this list... Yes, piracy of commercial software is deffinately NOT
> accepted. But when we talk about Win 2 which most probably only some
> 200LX
> users want to have and MS have no interest in- it's enough to
> highlight
> that this is not legal, instead of try to scare a 200LX user to death
> which only tries to be nice to the 200 community.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>
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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 11:23:49 -0400
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Hi,

I just read my own post and realized I should be a little more clear. I
use keystuff to place keystrokes in the keyboard buffer so that things
happen automagically.

For example:

I can put the keys 2 0 0 ENTER Filer and it would be as iff I
typed 200 at the dos prompt and press Filer to run filer. Remember
that you may have to  "press" Filer twice if you use the "filer closed
on startup" trick.

I use this method to open sysmgr, close filer completely, close sysmgr
and launch pocket launcher. I do this from a batch file that also
launches moreexm and exkey before launching sysmgr.




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Subject: Re: HPLX-L Starting Filer from a DOS prompt.

On 1998-05-07 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Here's a question for the group . . . .=20
   >Is there way to go directly to Filer from a DOS prompt?
   >System Manager can't be resident because of memory constraints.
   >I've = tried entering "200" with the extension parameter "FILER"
   >(C:\200 = FILER) but it doesn't work.  Is there a auto-execute file
   >available = when starting System Manager that would place me into
   >Filer?
   >Any ideas?
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Try keystuff. I automatically launch stuff by packing the keyboard
buffer with 200, blues, menu, etc.
           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

Truthful: Dumb and illiterate.

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Registered

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Of course, the same is true of performing a song without paying the
composer -- you don't limit the composer's right to "use" his or her
composition -- but you do deprive them of royalties to which they are
legally entitled.

hplx wrote:

> A. Meshar wrote:
>
>  > When someone takes your car for a short ride in the town, just
>  > to have a little fun, mind you, do you get upset?
> ...
>
> > do you normally go to the bank
>  > and take it from them even if it is not in your account
>
> Avi, these analogies just don't hold any water.  A COPY of an
> abandoned
> program is not a commodoty like money or cars.  Taking a copy of
> software,
> albeit "owned" by the programmer/company, is not taking the original
> software.  Yes, it is illegal, but its effects are not comparable to
> stealing a car or money, which are finite in quantity.  How is the
> owner
> out anything, especially when they don't sell it?
>
> Yeah, it meets the *fanatic's* definition of "stealing" but then,
> using
> your company's e-mail and phone is also stealing...
>
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>Subject:       rechargable lithium AA
>
>http://www.batteryeng.com/new.html
>
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David:

> running, at this time). BTW, can graphics be turned off in WWW/LX to
> speed things up?

Its default state is to not display graphics. In HV, press
Menu Options, Gif - to make sure there is a diamond character
to the left of "Display GIF images". The HV.CFG can also be
rigged easily to make the GIF display the default, either
way...

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 13:10:13 -0400
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Hi folks-

I've used NT in the past (I think the last version I tried was v1.08).
It does work well with the palmtop, but as mentioned by others, the
interface isn't exactly intuitive 8-)  I had little trouble setting it
up, or coming up with a login script.  Mail works well (the red.com
editor is included).  It can also be set up to use your choice of
editor.  I also used it with PE.  The browser supports graphics, but
the versions I tried had only one font (that my aging eyeballs found a
little difficult to read).  Don't think graphics could be turned off
for speed, but I could be wrong.  Overall NT is a nice internet suite
for the palmtops.

My choice has been WWW/LX since it first became available.  Upgraded
to the -Plus version (with Post/LX) last year, and upgraded again to
the new version.  This costs more than NT ($89 vs $30 or is it $35
now?), but IMHO WWW/LX is well worth it.  You get email (can be set up
to automatically sort into folders; download headers only; set size
limit for DL etc), Another very cool email feature is the ability to
highlight a web page address, and launch HV to go there!  Newsgroups
with subject filters to limit DLs to your interests, & reject other
stuff.  Web browsing with HV includes graphics (can be disabled for
speed - it really FLIES this way).  The current version works with
Stefan Peichl's LXPIC to handle both GIF & JPG inline images.  Works
with frames (but doesn't show them).  HV also does FTP, and a telnet
client is available.  Multiple fonts are provided, and if you can get
a copy of PFE, you can create your own.  (I have a set that includes
big fonts for h1 & h2 headers).

BTW - check out D&A's page.  As of this morning, there are new
versions of Post/LX and HV, plus the Finger client app.  (No, I'm not
connected to D&A - just a satisfied customer)

-PR
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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 17:34:33 GMT
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On Thu, 7 May 1998 15:04:16 -0700, A. Meshar wrote:

>This is great discussions on the products. Thanks for chiming
>in...

Thanks to all concerned for producing a range of products for us users to
try out.

>It is actually called WWW/LX Plus. Post/LX is a client within
>that product that does email and newsgroups. HV is another
>client within this product. Other clients available too -
>Telnet, Ftp, GET, etc...

I wasn't too sure what the overall package name was when I wrote, but
remembered afterwards that the evaluation package is available from =
SUPER.
I grabbed a copy and played a bit last night. I'm impressed so far. I =
could
see why Jeff Johns found installation a bit difficult because there were =
a
few places where the information required wasn't too obvious, but overall
it didn't take much effort. I was pleased to see that you have =
specifically
catered for my ISP, Demon, in the scripting :-) The biggest problem would
almost certainly be that I jumped straight in having only rapidly browsed
the documentation. The overall package size is quite large, but there are=
 a
few things which can be moved out of the way like the fonts which I =
already
had elsewhere on my flash disc.

>Are you still working from the notion the price of $119.00?
>That is old price! New price for WWW/LX Plus v.2 is $89.00.

I guess that at, say, USD50 I'd jump in. I can't get away from the fact
that I registered my copy of Forte Agent I use on my desktop for a mere
USD30, which has probably coloured my judgement :-)

>Yes, and then some! You can d/l mail headers only, then choose
>which bodies (hehe...) to d/l. And you can decide to delete
>something on the server without the body ever having been d/l,
>or after, or whatever. I am tryin to convery that there is a
>lot of functionality in that area. This is one of about 50
>maybe 100 improvemtns from the prior version. Check out the
>announcement. I have a features list (which will numb your
>mind :) ...) and marked the new stuff with a star.

I've been browsing the documentation since last night, and as you say the
feature list *is* long.

>Oh, thanks. I did not know Rod was doing this! Interesting.

I thought he'd posted quite a few articles about it here. It's obviously =
my
favourite from the cost point of view, but too fiddly for a busy person =
to
muck about with at the moment. Although Rod's concept is that of DIY, I =
can
see an opening for a zip file containing the bare essentials complete =
with
sample config files which merely need a quick edit to get one going.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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On Thu, 7 May 1998 20:51:35 -0400, Russell Hemery wrote:

>Bill I have a similar experience
>
>The batteries are marked Jan 2002..  Anyone else had this happen??
>
>Is it a bad batch?  or is there a degradation of Duracell quality??  I
>bought mine in a 10pack budget set..  Maybe they are lower quality??

I wonder if you are suffering from a problem we have had here in the UK =
for
several years. Cheap Duracell batteries are available at markets and =
those
cheap general outlet shops everywhere, but they don't last as long as the
normal ones. They look exactly the same as normal Duracells, except that
they are marked Made in Belgium. Apparently Duracell sell a standard
alkaline battery in Belgium which is packaged exactly like the long life
ones we know and love. Cowboys import these things to the UK and sell =
them
on to unsuspecting customers! I never buy Duracells except from major
outlets where there's a good chance I'm getting the real thing.

--=20
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> Here's a question for the group . . . .
>
> Is there way to go directly to Filer from a DOS prompt?
>
> System Manager can't be resident because of memory constraints.  I've =
tried
> entering "200" with the extension parameter "FILER" (C:\200 FILER) but =
it
> doesn't work.  Is there a auto-execute file available when starting =
System
> Manager that would place me into Filer?

Instead of trying to use Filer while in DOS, use one of its alternates:
DOSSHELL, Stereo Shell, or Norton Commander.



Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
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This email is directed to Master Palmtop Programer Andrea Garzotto &
D&A.

Hi to All,

I have a special request. The More External system of POST/LX 2.0 is so
powerful. I was wonder if you would release it as a stand-a-lone
program ( LX/DESKTOP ). I'll pay as much as $50.00 or what ever the coast
would be if you decide to meet this request.

I'd would like to use it as a System Manager replacement.

At present it almost fits the bill, but POST/LX just takes up just
a little to much memory to run some of my programs.

Any way somebody let me know what you think. For the last month I've
been trying to compile my own, I give up.




Regards,

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Quinton Jones Jr wrote:
>
> > Here's a question for the group . . . .
> >
> > Is there way to go directly to Filer from a DOS prompt?
> >
> > System Manager can't be resident because of memory constraints.  I've tried
> > entering "200" with the extension parameter "FILER" (C:\200 FILER) but it
> > doesn't work.  Is there a auto-execute file available when starting System
> > Manager that would place me into Filer?
>
> Instead of trying to use Filer while in DOS, use one of its alternates:
> DOSSHELL, Stereo Shell, or Norton Commander.
>
SNIP

Do you know where to get/buy a copy of norton commander?

Brenda

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 15:08:59 -0400
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On Fri, 8 May 1998, MICHAEL K RILEY wrote:

> please send a working address.
> mike
>
>
>
>

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 20:12:17 +0100
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I had exactly the same problem in Portugal. A pack of 2 Duracell
batteries marked Jan 2002 and made in Belgium only lasted for a few
days.

I usually have the batteries for around 50 hours of on-time.


Neil Tungate wrote:
>
> On Thu, 7 May 1998 20:51:35 -0400, Russell Hemery wrote:
>
> >Bill I have a similar experience
> >
> >The batteries are marked Jan 2002..  Anyone else had this happen??
> >
> >Is it a bad batch?  or is there a degradation of Duracell quality??  I
> >bought mine in a 10pack budget set..  Maybe they are lower quality??
>
> I wonder if you are suffering from a problem we have had here in the UK for
> several years. Cheap Duracell batteries are available at markets and those
> cheap general outlet shops everywhere, but they don't last as long as the
> normal ones. They look exactly the same as normal Duracells, except that
> they are marked Made in Belgium. Apparently Duracell sell a standard
> alkaline battery in Belgium which is packaged exactly like the long life
> ones we know and love. Cowboys import these things to the UK and sell them
> on to unsuspecting customers! I never buy Duracells except from major
> outlets where there's a good chance I'm getting the real thing.
>
> --
> Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
> Team 200LX UK
>
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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 15:26:39 -0400
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Hi all,

At work, we are using National Instruments DAQ cards on a PC, and I had to
perform low level DOS programming to communicate with the card , including some
register level access. For the ISA card, we don't need any special driver. Do
you know what the PCMCIA DAQ card would need a driver for, or what the provided
driver is supposed to do? Because, if the driver is not needed to access the
PCMCIA card at register level, then I think I would be able to write the
programs for you, if I have access to the specific documentation for that card.

Regards,


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 f.ennesser@computer.org

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 14:33:20 -0500
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I can see that this discussion is taking on a rather "religious" ferver.
Perhaps the crusades WILL come back in style.

I think that there is room for a free exchange of ideas.    AND I also
believe that anyone can state their opinion about an issue as long as they
don't state that something that is illegal IS legal.  There are always gray
areas in the law as well as the interpretation of the law.  Why else would
there be courts to argue certain points of the law?   Why does the Supreme
Court exist, but to decide upon interpretation of the law and the
constitution?

Software copyright laws have changed and are  continuing to change.  I
believe that any law can be challenged if it does not apply to today's
situation.  Software laws may need to be changed with regards to "out of
date" software.   Copyrights exist for 75 years.  Just as patents become
freely accessible property after a certain period of time (which is how
generic drugs come onto the market), perhaps the copyright laws with regard
to software need to be changed.

I do believe that laws need to be made that are in the general interest of
the public, while still protecting the company or investor.   It's been
generally accepted that non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) in the high tech
industry are only typically valid for a period of time that lasts from 3 to
5 years.  After that, the information is so old, that it has lost it's
intrinsic value.   I believe that it's time for the software industry to
catch up and to offer "old" software to the general public for little or no
charge, with the understanding that _it_is_NOT_supported!  Buyer beware!
At least this may be a fair trade for all of the disclaimers that are
included with new software, only to find that it has a million bugs that
are to be found by the unsuspecting consumer.

Regards....Jim J.

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Avi Meshar of D&A Software so eloquently wrote:

 > I usually don't like to communicate with a nameless "thing".
...
 > Give us all a break, don't insult our intelligence.
...
 > although you clearly have a few people who lost
 > their brains and ethics.
...
 > It would be a stunning achievement for you if you knew what
 > the heck you are talking about!
...
 > It is my wish that someone does to you what you do to others.
 > Perhaps then you would start to develop some sense of ethics.

I won't reciprocate you on the list with more name calling.

If you wish to discuss this further, please e-mail me privately.

I admit openly that distributing software no longer sold and supported does
strain ethics.  I won't, however, get so worked up as to commit a far worse
sin: attacking individuals.

Cordially,
"thing"

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Hi-

Most folks need a "compelling app" for going through the pain of
setting up a new computer, for me that app on my new 200LX is Pocket
Quicken.

However... the HP manual indicates the best way to keep a 200lx
running pocket quicken in sync with your base-unit is to use the
connectivity pack and the "Xlate/Merge" utilities.  This >idea< is
nice because it makes sure all of the balances & transactions are in
sync.

I tried this but Xlate/Merge expect to see an older format data file
(.QDT) than Quicken v6 uses (.QDB).  So I'm stuck with writing a text
file (.QIF) for each account, transferring them all and then
hoping/manually checking the balances.  I get the idea that the HP
connectivity pack is >many< years old...


Is there anyone out there that actively uses a 200lx with pocket
quicken and a modern version of Quicken for windows on the desktop?

How do you do synchronization in the least-painful way?



Thanks in advance,

Jared
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On Fri, 8 May 1998 16:05:27 +0930, Rod Whitby wrote:

>I was *waiting* for somebody to mention LXTCP, so I could put in my
>plug for it :-)

I was surprised nobody else mentioned it along the way.

>As Neil pointed out, it's severely lacking on documentation at the
>moment (you really need to download the source distribution to get the
>real information), but there are a number of people who use it daily
>for HP200LX connectivity.  Due to the lack of documentation, it is not
>a program for newbies.

Aha, I hadn't looked closely at the contents of the source zip. Now I see
the config files, which should enable me to get it running and see how I
like it. As I said before, the PNR has a nice interface, so I'd be happy =
to
use it.

BTW, does HV work with the WatTCP stuff, or has it been written to use
non-standard network hooks?

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 13:41:53 -0700
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I sync to quicken98 deluxe once a week.  I use pocket quicken connect  which
only updates the hp with current balances after it pulls in the transactions
to the desktop.

Works fine for me but you don't get the transactions that were made on the
desktop on the palmtop just the correct updated balances.

-Tim
pacific@castles.com
http://members.castles.com/pacific

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From: Jared Zerbe <jared@RAMBUS.COM>
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Date: Friday, May 08, 1998 1:33 PM
Subject: Pocket Quicken & Quicken v6.0

>Is there anyone out there that actively uses a 200lx with pocket
>quicken and a modern version of Quicken for windows on the desktop?
>
>How do you do synchronization in the least-painful way?

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          <igp@vlc.servicom.es>

     Thanks for the info. It looks like the Omnigo may not be the best
     choice

     Joe:-{>}


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Author:  Ignacio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_P=E9rez?=
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Date:    5/8/98 5:15 AM


>     Does anyone have any info on the OmniGo? Availability? Price?

If you're talking about the OmniGo 100/120, I own one:

It's a nice machine, but (compared to the 200LX):
1- The screen is smaller, but pen driven.
2- Has a quite complete keyboard (unlike the PalmPilot-type machines).
3- Runs GEOS, on top of a stripped down DOS 3.3. DOS mode is difficult to
get and not very usable with a 30x30 screen.
3- My machine is much more power hungry than my 2x HP200LX.
4- Has no external power plug, and thus cannot charge batteries.

I would say that it is a very nice machine, but the fact is that if you
want a pen based machine, with just PDA functionality, a PalmPilot (for
example) will be much lighter and powerful.

>     I have a friend who is interested in a PDA "like" my 100lx but up to
>     only ~$200. I've told him about used 200lx"s for approx. that price
>     but he wants NEW.

If he wants a PDA like your 200LX, he probably wants a keyboard. In this
case, IMHO, the 200LX is the best choice. The OmniGo is bigger, less
usable, and less powerful.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 17:26:45 -0400
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I was looking up the details of a city in WorldTime, and noticed a
spelling mistake.  Longitude is spelled Longipude.  I whipped out my
backup 200LX, and noticed it was spelt correctly there.  My (misspelling
machine) is a 2MB upgraded to 6MB and doublespeed, ROM version 1.02a.
My backup is a 1MB ROM 1.01a.

This is a ROM application - has the ROM become corrupted, or is this a
documented problem?

Can anyone shed any light on this (trivial) problem?

Nick

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I wonder if anyone else uses POST with Sprynet (Compuserve's ISP).  I
have the following problem.  It does not create an .ID file, so
everytime I log on, it downloads every message in the mailbox - even
those previously downloaded.  I do not want to delete the messages
because I share the mailbox with someone else.  I am sure the Sprynet
protocol must be very similar to the POP account for CIS accounts which
I am sure some people here must have.  I have upgraded to 2.0b with no
change.  The download header option also does not work with my Sprynet
account.  The download headers option also does not work.

Everything does work with my mailbox set up for another POP3 account.

While we're comparing features between the different internet solutions
for the HP, one thing that fustrates me with POST, is the fact that if
you have POST set up to use multiple accounts (and a USENET group), and
it times-out with one of the servers while trying to connect - it aborts
the whole run, and does not attempt to try the next mailbox.  I have
also noticed a tendency when on the web with HV that if I can't connect
to a site in a decent time, it ruins my ability to connect with any site
thereafter.  I have to tell HV to disconnect, and then reconnect- which
wastes time and batteries.

That being said I moved to WWW/LX after first trying Nettamer - enough
said about the user interface, and the browser was too primitive -
couldn't handle frames, drop-down lists, etc.  I then went to GP - which
was excellent, but unusable for me because I had the need to leave
messages on the server.  I am so far very satisfied with WWW/LX (other
than the problems mentioned earlier).

Thanks
Nick

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Can someone please tell me what I can do with the HP connectivity pack
for the 200lx?

Is it used primarily to transfer data and software from discs to the
200lx?

Can I run the programs in the system manager on the PC screen?  Can I
type memos directly into the 200lx using my PC keyboard?

I also learned that the connectivity pac only runs on my PC in DOS
mode.  Does this mean that I have to switch from Windows95 mode to the
black and white  C prompt and use all the DOS arcane commands??  Is this
true?  So, how then does one go about learning (or relearning) all the
unintelligible DOS commands?  (yea - all those colons, dots, and
stars!!)  Is there a thick users guide to assist using DOS commands?

I might get a connectivity pac if I knew what the dang thing could do.

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 13:49:39 -0700
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Comments: To: Jared Zerbe <jared@RAMBUS.COM>
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Try Pocket Quicken Connect - works seemlessly, though rather one-way (from
palmtop to desktop).  I think the intent here was to use the palmtop for
daily use, with the desktop for analysis, etc.  What you can do is look for
version 4 for Windows, which uses the same file format (and less real
estate on your desktop).

At 13:18 05/08/98 PDT, you wrote:
>Hi-
>
>Most folks need a "compelling app" for going through the pain of
>setting up a new computer, for me that app on my new 200LX is Pocket
>Quicken.
>
>However... the HP manual indicates the best way to keep a 200lx
>running pocket quicken in sync with your base-unit is to use the
>connectivity pack and the "Xlate/Merge" utilities.  This >idea< is
>nice because it makes sure all of the balances & transactions are in
>sync.
>
>I tried this but Xlate/Merge expect to see an older format data file
>(.QDT) than Quicken v6 uses (.QDB).  So I'm stuck with writing a text
>file (.QIF) for each account, transferring them all and then
>hoping/manually checking the balances.  I get the idea that the HP
>connectivity pack is >many< years old...
>
>
>Is there anyone out there that actively uses a 200lx with pocket
>quicken and a modern version of Quicken for windows on the desktop?
>
>How do you do synchronization in the least-painful way?
>
>
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Jared
>--
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>Rambus Inc.                     ...standard disclaimer here...
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From:         Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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Hi Lists,

I run some DOS program within AppMgr, these DOS program only have print
setup option to print to LPT1, is there any utility that I can use to
divert it to print to the built-in Infrared port ?


Thanks

Chin Jien Hung

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 20:33:22 EDT
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When you steal software, you are stealing anothers labor.  You have no right
to demand the fruit of another's labor.

It is as simple as that.

lynn m. cavendish

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 18:13:56 -0700
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Goin Postal's web site doesn't support WWW/LX.
What's up with that Steven?




Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
hands.

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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 20:40:19 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> Can someone please tell me what I can do with the HP connectivity pack
> for the 200lx?
> Is it used primarily to transfer data and software from discs to the
> 200lx?

This is one of it's functions.  One that I use it almost exclusively for,
personally.

> Can I run the programs in the system manager on the PC screen?  Can I
> type memos directly into the 200lx using my PC keyboard?

No, if I understand your question.  However, the CPACK *does* provide
versions of many of the 200LX built-in system manager apps for you to
run on the PC.  For example, you start CPACK on your desktop, and it looks
just like system manager on your palmtop.  To transfer files, you open
FILER on both machines and start sending them back and forth.

A third useful feature for some is the ability to transfer and merge
databases, such as phone and appointment books files, to and from
your palmtop.   This has been especially useful for me with the
Quicken files.

> I also learned that the connectivity pac only runs on my PC in DOS
> mode.  Does this mean that I have to switch from Windows95 mode to the
> black and white  C prompt and use all the DOS arcane commands??  Is this
> true?  So, how then does one go about learning (or relearning) all the
> unintelligible DOS commands?  (yea - all those colons, dots, and
> stars!!)  Is there a thick users guide to assist using DOS commands?

Well, yes, CPACK runs in DOS mode, but it is a "graphical-like" application,
just like the real sys-mgr on the palmtop.  It just runs in DOS mode,
and in my case, always in full screen mode as well (I have heard others
who have succeeded in getting it to run in windowed screens).  I have
setup ICONS on my desktop, both on Windows 95 system at home and a
Windows NT 4.0 system at work.  Works just fine - I don't have to enter
any commands on the command line at all. (For me, this is more of a
curse than a blessing, since I *love* CLIs, and *hate* GUIs, but in
your case it is a benefit).

> I might get a connectivity pac if I knew what the dang thing could do.

I hope I have begun to explain what it can do.  Feel free to write if you
have more specific questions.

-Chris Lott

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> >I tried this but Xlate/Merge expect to see an older format data file
> >(.QDT) than Quicken v6 uses (.QDB).  So I'm stuck with writing a text
> >file (.QIF) for each account, transferring them all and then
> >hoping/manually checking the balances.  I get the idea that the HP
> >connectivity pack is >many< years old...
> >
> >
> >Is there anyone out there that actively uses a 200lx with pocket
> >quicken and a modern version of Quicken for windows on the desktop?
> >
> >How do you do synchronization in the least-painful way?

Jared:

Your comments are most interesting.  I have used Quicken in this way, just as
you described, for several years now.  I use version 7 of Quicken, which I
picked up for sale at a computer store a few years ago while on a business
trip.  It uses the appropriate files (.QDT), and I have never had to go through
the gyrations you mentioned.  What gives???

-Chris Lott


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From:         Antonio Menezes <abmenezes@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT>
Subject:      Re: Prioritized Alarm Sounds
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> I thought I read about some software that would allow you to play
> different alarm sounds for different appointments.  I set so many
> alarms that it would be nice to know just by the sound how important it
> is.  Does anyone recall this?
>
It's called PAT.ZIP. I don't find it on SUPER. I'll look in the
Palmtop Paper Subscriber'S Disks.

Regards

Antonio



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Date:         Fri, 8 May 1998 21:31:36 -0700
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"Sorry, you're not using MSIE.  Stop being different, it is not allowed.
Click here to download Internet Explorer (even though it won't fit
on your silly little machine, let alone run.  Signed, Bill." :-)

Actually, I don't know why it shouldn't work.  I don't do anything fancy
on my web pages.  Simple and clean, and even Lynx friendly (though looking
at it I appear to have forgotten my ALT tag on the (new) icon...

> Goin Postal's web site doesn't support WWW/LX.
> What's up with that Steven?

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   >Can someone please tell me what I can do with the HP connectivity
   >pack for the 200lx?
   >Is it used primarily to transfer data and software from discs to the
   >200lx?
   >Can I run the programs in the system manager on the PC screen?  Can
   >I type memos directly into the 200lx using my PC keyboard?
   >I also learned that the connectivity pac only runs on my PC in DOS
   >mode.  Does this mean that I have to switch from Windows95 mode to
   >the black and white  C prompt and use all the DOS arcane commands??
   >Is this true?  So, how then does one go about learning (or
   >relearning) all the unintelligible DOS commands?  (yea - all those
   >colons, dots, and stars!!)  Is there a thick users guide to assist
   >using DOS commands?
   >I might get a connectivity pac if I knew what the dang thing could
   >do.

The Connectivity Pack is "OLD" software and has some drawbacks,
like it runs in a >simulated< 640x200 box in 640x480 This means a
>letterbox< style screen.

You can use it to run the Appointment Book app and read your
palmtop files on the desktop (or laptop/notebook) and you can run
the Phone Book, Database & Notetaker. Memo is there too.

Quicken and Lotus 123 are not included, but the Connectivity Pack
has a utility called Xlate, to convert/merge/update Pocket
Quicken to/from Desktop Quicken (if you own this)

The Xlate app is worth the price of the Connectivity Pack as it
allows you to import comma-delimited files into your Palmtop
database and Notetaker and Phone listings. Also, modifying a
large dataset is generally faster on the desktop with the
Connectivity Pack than on the palmtop.

One udf is the ability to run PAL apps on the desktop, like HV or
Solitaire! They are 640x200, but they sure run fast!

There are free/shareware apps (on super) to import/export databases
but the Connectivity Pack sure is a lot easier to set up,
especially for multiple, repetitive jobs.

It has a backup routine and a laplink app and rudimentary Windows
3.1x apps, but these are not much chop. Using the laplink will
have you brewing too much coffee as you wait for the files to
"Pass-Over" so I would reccomend something spritely like Fast
Lynx FX 2.0 if you are going to use a cable to backup and
transfer files, but would reccomend a PC card reader as the
"Must-Have/Must-Buy". These are really great! The speed is
fabulous!

Of course, a PC card reader is only usefull if you have a PCMCIA
card for your palmtop, and beleive me, you will NEVER regret
getting one! Aim for the biggest you can afford, then borrow some
money and get the next bigger size!

You mentioned using the PC keyboard, you can use the C/pack to
write into the apps on the desktop & then transfer the files, or
you can get remcom from super and type on the PC keyboard
directly into the Palmtop! Kewl!

The C/Pack will run in Win 95, you double-click app200.pif or
drag it to the desktop or give it a hot-key short-cut or however
you like to drive 95. It needs to run full-screen as it controls
the video output. You will have no end of trouble connecting via
this in 95, so either go for FX 2.0 or a PC card reader.

You can even run multiple versions, but no cut 'n paste between!
David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Sat, 9 May 1998 01:01:13 -0500
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I can't get Pocket Quicken Connect to sync PQ on the 200LX with Quicken 6 on
Windows NT.  I can do it on Windows 95.  Anyone had any luck with an NT
connection?
Thanks!

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Date:         Sat, 9 May 1998 06:53:45 -0500
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David:

>    >I might get a connectivity pac if I knew what the dang thing could
>    >do.
>

 Excellent explanation if CPACK followed...

You did a far better job of explaining CPACK than I did with my
paltry attempt.  In fact, I have been using if for 3+ years now,
and learned a few things myself! Thanks.

> You mentioned using the PC keyboard,

I forgot to elaborate on this in my reply earlier.  Using the
CTTY command and a terminal, or your desktop running a terminal
emulator, you can do a lot of serious work on your palmtop
without having to shuffle files back and forth.  So far, the
ELVIS editor is the only one that can properly deal with the
CTTY command, but all normal DOS command-line programs work
well.  Yet one more way to use your palmtop.

> The C/Pack will run in Win 95, you double-click app200.pif or
> drag it to the desktop or give it a hot-key short-cut or however
> you like to drive 95. It needs to run full-screen as it controls
> the video output. You will have no end of trouble connecting via
> this in 95, so either go for FX 2.0 or a PC card reader.

Here I beg to differ.  I have never had any trouble at all connecting
to my palmtop, either from windows 95 nor NT!  Perhaps this has to
do with the connectivity method.  I have never used the lap link
method - I have always used FILER.  It is simple, painless, and so
far has worked on DOS, Win 3.1, 95 and NT with no problems.

Thanks for your eloquent and informative description of CPACK.

-Chris Lott
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Boy, do I feel stupid. A second test of the straight cable I built shows
that, indeed, pins 3 & 4 (TXD and DTR) had a short. That corrected, both
modems now work.

My thanks to those who responded!

-Peter

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S

On Wed, 6 May 1998, Ted Heise wrote:

> On Wed, 6 May 1998, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
Regarding modems, sorry if this is really basic but I am still having
trouble getting my 100lx to recognise a pc card modem which was working
well in my Newton using a Hayes Basic setup.  It is a 1400 AM Rapid bought
fairly cheaply.  Have tried using it with Qfax,Goin Postal and Datacom but
can't get the HP to see it so I figure I must be doing something wrong.
Have configured it as com2.  Could it be the init string.  Do I need E1Q0
(don't speak modem but someone suggested this).
Aplogies for the rambling question but am at then end of my tether.

Thanks

Andrew

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Hey folks...

Just went to see what the problem is with Steve's GP site.  What I got
was a screen saying "Old Browser" and the statement that the system
requires a browser that supports HTTP 1.1

It's not the GP page, it's a host system with attitude  8-(

-PR
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> S
>
> On Wed, 6 May 1998, Ted Heise wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 6 May 1998, Jim Johnson wrote:
> >
> Regarding modems, sorry if this is really basic but I am still having
> trouble getting my 100lx to recognise a pc card modem which was working
> well in my Newton using a Hayes Basic setup.  It is a 1400 AM Rapid =
bought
> fairly cheaply.  Have tried using it with Qfax,Goin Postal and Datacom =
but
> can't get the HP to see it so I figure I must be doing something wrong.
> Have configured it as com2.  Could it be the init string.  Do I need =
E1Q0
> (don't speak modem but someone suggested this).
> Aplogies for the rambling question but am at then end of my tether.
>
Have you ever used a modem before in your 100lx? Maybe cic100 -gen1 is =
rem'd
out of your autoexec.

Darren.

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> > I thought I read about some software that would allow you to play
> > different alarm sounds for different appointments...
>
> It's called PAT.ZIP. I don't find it on SUPER. I'll look in the
> Palmtop Paper Subscriber'S Disks.

I found it on CIS. If you need a copy, Let me know.

Cheers,

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Date:         Sat, 9 May 1998 09:35:42 -0700
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I think I'm the one that suggested trying to add E1Q0 to your init
string.  E1 turns on echoing, and Q0 makes it output result codes.

If the modem is currently set to E0Q1 it will remain totally silent.

Try going into datacomm and type in upper case: ATE1Q0 and hit return,
if the modem is listening it should say OK.

> Have configured it as com2.  Could it be the init string.  Do I need E1Q0
> (don't speak modem but someone suggested this).

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Date:         Sat, 9 May 1998 09:41:37 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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That sucks, that's the first annoying thing I've seen with Earthlink.

I'm going to fire off a gripe to Earthlink about it (not that it will
make any difference)

> Just went to see what the problem is with Steve's GP site.  What I got
> was a screen saying "Old Browser" and the statement that the system
> requires a browser that supports HTTP 1.1
>
> It's not the GP page, it's a host system with attitude  8-(

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QMan!

> I have a special request. The More External system of POST/LX 2.0 is so
> powerful. I was wonder if you would release it as a stand-a-lone
> program ( LX/DESKTOP ). I'll pay as much as $50.00 or what ever the =
coast
> would be if you decide to meet this request.

Hold your horse for awhile... That is all the hint I'll give!
:)

Andreas - he'll pay $50.00 for this, see? I told you so... :)

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Sat, 9 May 1998 14:39:54 -0400
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Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
>I have not experienced this problem myself, but I can see something that=

>could be a start of a crack on one of my 200LX units. If it grows bigger=
,
>I will do following:
>
>* Disassemble the whole palmtop and remove the screen from the plastic
>cover without removing the spring itself which is located on the right
>hinge. Once removed- very difficult to get in place again.
>
>* Then take a very thin sheet of metal- for example a piece of a Coke ca=
n
>and cut it to a suitable size.
>
>* Then use epoxy glue type Araldite in order to glue this thin metal =3D=

>piece
>on the inside of the plastic casing.
>
>As I said, I have not tried this but it should work and with this kind o=
f
>reinforcement, a big crack shouldn't appear- I guess... Check first so =3D=

>you
>get enough of space when this extra metal is in place so the screen stil=
l
>can fit inside the plastics.

Jorgen

I tried this approach but found that it is not possible to get into the a=
rea required without dismantling the right hand hinge, something that has=
 been warned against by several list members. So after dismantling my pal=
mtop, I had to reassemble it without reinforcing the crack zone. Whilst i=
n there, I did find that the crack appears to be created along a small in=
ternal boss, so it would not be possible to glue on a strengthening strip=
 anyway as the area is not flat. The only thing I have done, is oil the r=
ight hand hinge with a light oil, and that seems to have prevented any fu=
rther development of the faint crack I originally detected about 9 months=
 ago.

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Sat, 9 May 1998 11:32:15 -0700
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Nick,

The file it should create is mail.OLD (not .ID). You should
uncheck the DELETE AFTER DOWNLOAD box using SETUP.EXE for that
mail folder.

I have this working flawlessly in some mailboxes which I
share, and not in others,...

> I am sure some people here must have.  I have upgraded to 2.0b with no
> change.  The download header option also does not work with my Sprynet
> account.  The download headers option also does not work.

Strange! Can you send email to support@dasoft.com on tis? I
want to bring it up in the Beta group.

> While we're comparing features between the different internet solutions
> for the HP, one thing that fustrates me with POST, is the fact that if
> you have POST set up to use multiple accounts (and a USENET group), and
> it times-out with one of the servers while trying to connect - it =
aborts
> the whole run, and does not attempt to try the next mailbox.  I have
> also noticed a tendency when on the web with HV that if I can't connect
> to a site in a decent time, it ruins my ability to connect with any =
site
> thereafter.  I have to tell HV to disconnect, and then reconnect- which
> wastes time and batteries.

We went to almost war on that point in the beta. Probably
spent 2 weeks, maybe 15 people on this! Ultimately, it boils
down to that: If the connection is bad, which causes WWW.EXE
(this is the program that does that part of the brainwork!),
there is little that the program can do to _fix_ it. There are
some limited things, and the code required for these partial
and limited things is very very large! So the choice was:
smaller, and just rerun, or blobbycode, and only partial
success. We chose the first, but it was war! (I was on the
same side as you, BTW, :) but I convinced by the rality of the
implications of the alternatives.)

Thanks for the feedback!

  Avi M. D&A

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Peniel:

Good evaluation on the products.

> Another very cool email feature is the ability to
> highlight a web page address, and launch HV to go there!

Oh drat! And I was hoping this will remain a secret! :)

> Works
> with frames (but doesn't show them).

Well, what a frame is doing is basically taking two or more
HTML docs and displays them on one screen. The CGA screen is a
lousy place to do it, it is just too small! So, HV renders the
frames like so: It uses the Frameset tag which contains in it
the names of the HTML documents to be displayed. HV creates a
page on your screen with a link to each of the HTML documents
it finds in the FRAMESET, so you can go to see each of the
items that makes up a frame!

> HV also does FTP, and a telnet
> client is available.

And a straght ftp/lx client is also available.

> Multiple fonts are provided, and if you can get
> a copy of PFE, you can create your own.  (I have a set that includes
> big fonts for h1 & h2 headers).

I am working (slowly, alas) on an Arabic fornt for a project I
am doing with acustomer from Malaysia to make the Koran (or
Quran) which is the moslem Holy Scriptures viewable on HV,
using the Arabic font! Thank you Harry Konstas for PFE!

I already have a Hebrew font, but it is not that good. So the
Bible in Hebrew will be next, and of course we can try other
scriptures too! I'll post this in the Web page when available
(will be quite some time, though!)

> BTW - check out D&A's page.  As of this morning, there are new
> versions of Post/LX and HV, plus the Finger client app.  (No, I'm not
> connected to D&A - just a satisfied customer)

:) - and I recall that when you had problems you were on my
back like crazy, until it was solved! - nah - that is
perfectly fine. You and many others who nagged and nagged
inspired Andreas and the Beat to make this product better and
better. So Thanks for the nags, thanks for the patience, and
thanks for the support!

(Peniel was one of the very first people to get the currect
upgrade, and I think he also was the first to report the issue
of CCP, which was fixed in two three days or so...)

  Avi M. D&A

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Neil,

> I wasn't too sure what the overall package name was when I wrote, but
> remembered afterwards that the evaluation package is available from
> SUPER.

:) - oh well, never mind. Is it really on Super? I think not.
Funny thing: Ever since D&A started we had people think of us
as Shier, or think of us as Educalc, or SUPER... Mommy, I am
having an identity crisis! ;-)  --- Don't worry, _I_ know what
you mean.

(Two weeks ago someone posted to Andreas about how great the
WWW/LX Plus was, and that he should really try it! Andreas
said he would! :) ... So far, no registration showed from
him!)

> see why Jeff Johns found installation a bit difficult because there =
were
> a
> few places where the information required wasn't too obvious, but =
overall

Either here, or private email, as you wish, can you perhaps
point specifically to some items?

> specifically
> catered for my ISP, Demon, in the scripting :-) The biggest problem =
would

One of our original beta testers used Demon, and Pipex in the
UK.

> almost certainly be that I jumped straight in having only rapidly =
browsed
> the documentation.

Yes, most people do. Maybe I should take the risk and put on
the file - RTFM!!!!!!! :)

 The overall package size is quite large, but there are
>  a
> few things which can be moved out of the way like the fonts which I
> already
> had elsewhere on my flash disc.

Yes, definitely. The minimum set is much much smaller.
Forwxample, you can get rid of the font files for HV, but it
looks ugly. The documentation is what 100K+? But you really
want to use it sometimes! You can remove the setup programs,
but then it is a hassle, anyway, there is a lot of stuff that
can be compromised for more space.

> >Are you still working from the notion the price of $119.00?
> >That is old price! New price for WWW/LX Plus v.2 is $89.00.
>
> I guess that at, say, USD50 I'd jump in.

At that price I'd jump out of business! :)

> I can't get away from the fact
> that I registered my copy of Forte Agent I use on my desktop for a mere
> USD30, which has probably coloured my judgement :-)

Sure, and I got my copy of Win98 for free from MS, and MSIE
for free, and Netscape for free. Well... Let's compare bananas
with bananas. That is the price we feel is fair in this market
for this category and level of program. It is also fair to
_us_, not just to customers. When we could shave bucks from
production we did - dropped $30 from the price, because we
save on various things in our own production.

> I've been browsing the documentation since last night, and as you say =
the
> feature list *is* long.

and Mind NUMBING! I was feeling weird when I finished putting
the list together, sort of numb! :)

Thanks for the feedback!

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Sat, 9 May 1998 15:10:59 -0400
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Subject:      Battery hours

I wonder what the experience of the users has been in the number of hours
of use to expect from rechargeable NiCAD and NiMH batteries.

I realize this deteriorates as the batteries age, but I am curious what to
expect when they are "new" and fully charged.

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Date:         Sat, 9 May 1998 12:04:46 -0700
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> Just went to see what the problem is with Steve's GP site.  What I got
> was a screen saying "Old Browser" and the statement that the system
> requires a browser that supports HTTP 1.1
>
> It's not the GP page, it's a host system with attitude  8-(

And the worst thing about that host is that HV supports
HTTP1.1. The host simply looks at the name that the browser
sends as identification and decides that it is not MSIE or
Netscape, so it cannot be anything legitimate! I hate
brainlesness!

Peniel, thanks for posting.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Sat, 9 May 1998 22:42:47 +0200
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Hi all,

I seem to remember that it is possible to tell the HP 95 LX to NOT check its
IR port in order ot save power. However, I don't remember how to do that:
there was a command for that, but what was it again? Could someone help me
with that?

thanks,

chris

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> QMan!
>
> > I have a special request. The More External system of POST/LX 2.0 is =
so
> > powerful. I was wondering if you would release it as a stand-a-lone
> > program ( LX/DESKTOP ). I'll pay as much as $50.00 or what ever the =
coast
> > would be if you decide to meet this request.
>
> Hold your horse for awhile... That is all the hint I'll give!
> :)
>
> Andreas - he'll pay $50.00 for this, see? I told you so... :)


OH BOY! GOODIES, GOODIES.......... (:-D

Thanks for the reply.


Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
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   >David:
   >>    >I might get a connectivity pac if I knew what the dang thing
   >>could     >do.
   > Excellent explanation if CPACK followed...
   >You did a far better job of explaining CPACK than I did with my
   >paltry attempt.  In fact, I have been using if for 3+ years now,
   >and learned a few things myself! Thanks.
   >> You mentioned using the PC keyboard,

   >Here I beg to differ.  I have never had any trouble at all
   >connecting to my palmtop, either from windows 95 nor NT!  Perhaps
   >this has to do with the connectivity method.  I have never used the
   >lap link method - I have always used FILER.  It is simple, painless,
   >and so far has worked on DOS, Win 3.1, 95 and NT with no problems.
   >Thanks for your eloquent and informative description of CPACK.
   >-Chris Lott

I just re-read my posting and appologise for the slur on
connecting, it was late at night(early in the morning?) and I was
not being very clear in my statements.

The C/pack filer will work in Dos, 95 and if you and others say
NT, then I guess it will there, too. What I was trying/going to
say was that it is not very efficient, speed-wise.

Filer seems to copy one file at a time and then verify it's
correctness of transfer(?) and then go for the next file & verify
that etc, etc. If you have a lot of small files in subdirectories
this can be pretty tiresome!

Fast Lynx will copy the same files and their directory structure
in a fraction of the time. It appears to use memory like good old
xcopy found in dos, ie: squeeze as many files as will fit into
memory and then write them to the destination.

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Sat, 9 May 1998 14:42:23 -0700
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Steve:

> That sucks, that's the first annoying thing I've seen with Earthlink.

Agree! It is a lemming syndrome. Earthlink also has some
modems in some places that just will not connect when using
palmtops! No idea why, they disavow there are specialised
modems.

> I'm going to fire off a gripe to Earthlink about it (not that it will
> make any difference)

It would, if enough people write. Does not even take a
majority. I suspect that if 500 emails came in asking for
something, they'd pay attention, and 500 is a tiny fraction of
their customer base.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Sat, 9 May 1998 20:15:33 -0700
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Howdy.  I'd like to thank those of y'all who had opinions to share
on various MS-DOS database software.  I've been playing with what I
could (legally) get my hands on, which wasn't everything mentioned
but I'll probably be keeping my eyes open for the ones I wasn't able
to track down.

For now I've settled on a ca. 1990 version of Alpha Four (v1.1) that I
found for sale from a local seller of old software (Herb's Software in
San Jose, CA).  It does some of the data-entry form stuff that I like,
and it uses XBase files for data storage so I know I can get the data in
and out one way or another.

Someone mentioned that Alpha Software is still selling Alpha Four for
MS-DOS, and they do, but these days it seems to want an 80386 and
several megabytes of memory.  At least that's what I got from their
web site at http://www.alphasoftware.com/ .

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 15:35:54 +1200
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Subject:      {Huge Phone Book lists...

If you, like me, run a simply Gigantic phone book listing and
wished for more power, try this...

 +
In my autoexec.bat I run key200 (which resides on the D: rom
drive) and call this following config file.

Ctrl Phone   : Ctrl Ctrl Ctrl Phone Phone
Phone        : Ctrl Phone Phone Ctrl

Ctrl Quicken : Ctrl Ctrl Ctrl Quicken Quicken
Quicken      : Ctrl Memo Memo Ctrl

The first grouping reverses the Phone and Database keys, so
pressing the Phone Blue key gets you straight into the Database,
and pressing Ctrl + Phone gets you the Phonebook.

(The second group reverses Quicken and Notetaker as I personally use
Notetaker more, but of course Quicken is but a Ctrl + Quicken away.

A hint for new players, the ":" needed by key200 os a shifted 5
on the numpad, not a shifted backslash "|" as I erroneously thought
when starting to debug this!

Now for the fun bit!

Fire up the Databae, press F9 and edit the *.GDB in the listbox
to read *.PDB and open your Phonebook file.

***NOTE***

MAKE SURE THE FILE IS NOT OPEN IN PHONEBOOK!!!

***NOTE***

Now you have it open in the Database, you can use an additional 3
pages to add listboxes, Radio buttons, text, number and date
fields!

I have saved my phone file I use in Database as a *.GDB and given
it a different name so I can tell at a glance at the top of the
screen which app I am using and which file it is.

I hope this helps and inspires more people to "Stretch the
envelope" ov this amazing little machine.

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Sat, 9 May 1998 23:47:23 -0400
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> For now I've settled on a ca. 1990 version of Alpha Four (v1.1) that I
> found for sale from a local seller of old software (Herb's Software in
> San Jose, CA).  It does some of the data-entry form stuff that I like,
> and it uses XBase files for data storage so I know I can get the data in
> and out one way or another.
>
> Someone mentioned that Alpha Software is still selling Alpha Four for
> MS-DOS, and they do, but these days it seems to want an 80386 and
> several megabytes of memory.  At least that's what I got from their
> web site at http://www.alphasoftware.com/ .

After writing to Alpha Software, they sold me a copy of Alpha Four ver.3
which definitely runs under DOS, and I think on the HP 200LX. I need more
FlashRAM or RAM space before I can be sure....

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Date:         Sat, 9 May 1998 23:28:04 -0700
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On Sat, 9 May 1998, Frank McConnell wrote:

> For now I've settled on a ca. 1990 version of Alpha Four (v1.1) that I
> found for sale from a local seller of old software (Herb's Software in
> San Jose, CA).  It does some of the data-entry form stuff that I like,
> and it uses XBase files for data storage so I know I can get the data in
> and out one way or another.
>
> Someone mentioned that Alpha Software is still selling Alpha Four for
> MS-DOS, and they do, but these days it seems to want an 80386 and
> several megabytes of memory.  At least that's what I got from their
> web site at http://www.alphasoftware.com/ .

Yeah, we use Alpha 4 version 6.0 at work.  It's a pretty powerful piece of
software, but like you said, it needs a 386 and several megs of extended
memory nowadays.  On the plus side, you can transparently use dBASE IV
files with it, and dBASE IV will run on the palmtop.

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Hey, guys...

Why does the 200lx run faster when getting poer from the adaptor? I am =
sure
this is happening. Games like Solitaire at the end with the bouncy cards =
and
Dangerous Dave run noticably faster. I wonder if this is done purposely =
in
code by HP to conserve power. If so, can this "feature" be bypassed? I
already run Turbo, so it must be something else.

Thanks, Darren.

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 10:43:37 +0200
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I am using Excel 2.1 and Word1.1 on my hp200lx and I am using the Swedish
characters placed on Fn-7, Fn-4 and Fn-5. But pressing that in Windows
producess nothing but 7,  4 and 5?
The Fn key seems to work ok with Home, End, Pg up and Pg dn.

Any hint on how to use it to get the foreign letters that I whant?
Importing a Swedish excel sheet to my hp produces Swedish letters as I am
using a Swedish font.

/tomas                   *** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 ***

                    64K RAM SYSTEM  38911 BASIC BYTES FREE

                    10  Tomas Moberg : Tel:+046(0)18/255 977
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                    40  Sweden       : HP200lx, Pinball & DOOM
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On Sat, 9 May 1998 11:32:08 -0700, A. Meshar wrote:

>:) - oh well, never mind. Is it really on Super? I think not.

Well I got to it by doing a search at the Super site, which took me to =
the
D&A site - at least I found it :-)

>Funny thing: Ever since D&A started we had people think of us
>as Shier, or think of us as Educalc, or SUPER... Mommy, I am
>having an identity crisis! ;-)  --- Don't worry, _I_ know what
>you mean.

Now I've never had that problem.

>Either here, or private email, as you wish, can you perhaps
>point specifically to some items?

I suppose in the great scheme of things it can't have been that difficult
because I set it up whilst drinking a cup of tea in the kitchen and =
talking
to my wife! I just recall a couple of places where it wasn't particularly
clear what information was required from me. As the whole process only =
took
a few minutes, I might just as well delete the installation and =
re-install
taking note of what was unclear. It's a nice sunny day, so I'll probably =
do
that in the garden later :-)

>Yes, most people do. Maybe I should take the risk and put on
>the file - RTFM!!!!!!! :)

You'll never get us old timers into that habit :-)

>Yes, definitely. The minimum set is much much smaller.
>Forwxample, you can get rid of the font files for HV, but it
>looks ugly. The documentation is what 100K+? But you really
>want to use it sometimes! You can remove the setup programs,
>but then it is a hassle, anyway, there is a lot of stuff that
>can be compromised for more space.

The reason I want to strip it down is so I can put a copy on the flash =
card
used in my digital camera, for the purpose of mailing pictures back home.=
 I
tend to strip most applications down once I feel that the docs are no
longer required or if some facilities are useless to me. I remember the
days before hard discs, and believe wholeheartedly in small efficient =
code.

>At that price I'd jump out of business! :)

I appreciate that, and to be honest I'm seriously considering pressing =
the
R button. I *do* like the idea of a well engineered complete package, but=
 I
also like the idea of DIY as in the case of LXTCP

>Sure, and I got my copy of Win98 for free from MS, and MSIE
>for free, and Netscape for free. Well... Let's compare bananas
>with bananas. That is the price we feel is fair in this market
>for this category and level of program. It is also fair to
>_us_, not just to customers. When we could shave bucks from
>production we did - dropped $30 from the price, because we
>save on various things in our own production.

Of course your market is pretty small compared with Forte. They must have
sold several tens, or even hundreds, of thousands of copies of Agent over
the last three years, whereas your total potential market is probably =
only
a couple of thousand users. If I'm honest, USD89 is actually pretty good
value. Maybe if I think of it as just over UKP50, it doesn't sound so bad
:-)

>Thanks for the feedback!

You're welcome, and as I said I'll look again at the installation - as a
programmer myself I know how easy it is to miss a difficulty for the user
because you are too close to the product. It often needs someone to come =
in
cold and use the product to find the annoying little things the author
missed.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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On Sat, 9 May 1998 12:04:46 -0700, A. Meshar articulated (the singally
quoted lines)...

>> Just went to see what the problem is with Steve's GP site.  What I got
>> was a screen saying "Old Browser" and the statement that the system
>> requires a browser that supports HTTP 1.1
>>
>> It's not the GP page, it's a host system with attitude  8-(

To whomever wrote this, I agree.

>And the worst thing about that host is that HV supports
>HTTP1.1. The host simply looks at the name that the browser
>sends as identification and decides that it is not MSIE or
>Netscape, so it cannot be anything legitimate! I hate
>brainlesness!

Definately true on the part of brainlessness, but in my opinion so is
requiring Java in order to have input.  My online banking requires it.  And
his site nor his provider require a special browser, my Amiga browser works
perfectly fine.

While I can't imagine why it *requires* HTTP1.1, but perhaps HV is reporting
the wrong HTTP standard supported?  To be honest, I am not sure how all of
that works.  :)

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On Sat, 9 May 1998 14:39:54 -0400, Laurence Harvey articulated...

> The only thing I have done, is oil the
>ight hand hinge with a light oil, and that seems to have prevented any
>further development of the faint crack I originally detected about 9 months
> ago.

But has the screen become floppy?  I understand some hinges are too stiff, but
I'd be highly annoyed if I tried to keep my screen at an angle and it keeps
slowly tilting away.  I dropped a bit of rubbing alcohol on it to solve that a
while back.  Although I see a line in the same place circled in David's
(http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/index.htm) site.  I use the palmtop for
constant reference, but I've had it less than a year so it's kinda
disapointing.  I eventually plan to place a decent looking brass nameplate
there, but I'm still not sure that will help remove stress from the apparently
weak area.

My our palmtops live fulfilled lives with both hinges intact.  :)

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 00:22:49 +1200
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From:         David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Re: Windows and foreign letters

   >I am using Excel 2.1 and Word1.1 on my hp200lx and I am using the
   >Swedish characters placed on Fn-7, Fn-4 and Fn-5. But pressing that
   >in Windows producess nothing but 7,  4 and 5?
   >The Fn key seems to work ok with Home, End, Pg up and Pg dn.
   >Any hint on how to use it to get the foreign letters that I whant?
   >Importing a Swedish excel sheet to my hp produces Swedish letters
   >as I am using a Swedish font.

Try this, all you need is 14 tiny little fingers! Hold down the
Alt + Menu and type the ascii extended code on the numpad.

I think some of the keys you want are like 143 132 148
It is early morning here, 01:15 and I am too tired to look them
all up!

HTH

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 10:17:21 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Subject:      Re: 200lx faster on A/C ?
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Darren Frick wrote:

> Why does the 200lx run faster when getting poer from the adaptor? I am =
sure
> this is happening. Games like Solitaire at the end with the bouncy =
cards and
> Dangerous Dave run noticably faster. I wonder if this is done purposely =
in
> code by HP to conserve power. If so, can this "feature" be bypassed? I
> already run Turbo, so it must be something else.

It's called "light sleep".  Yeah, it is done to save power, but it can
be bypassed.  Buddy can do it, and a few others as well.  There's a
tiny utility called "sleep.com" that you can put in a batch file with
the program you want to run faster.  It's a toggle - running it once
turns off light sleep, running it again turns it back on.  This is what
I use to launch VDE.

        @ECHO OFF
        MODE COM1 96,N,8,1,P
-->     SLEEP.COM
        VDE.EXE
-->     SLEEP.COM

BTW - if you disable light sleep, the auto shut off timer is also
disabled.  Your palmtop won't shut itself off!

Look on the SUPER site for Buddy, Sleep, or Lxstat.  These will all let
you turn light sleep on or off.

HTH

-PR
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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 12:39:06 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Battery hours
Comments: To: malkajef@orthohelp.com

Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 16:38:59 +0000
Message-ID: <19980510163850.AAB13052@12.64.8.153>

On 1998-05-09 malkajef@orthohelp.com said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >I wonder what the experience of the users has been in the number of
   >hours of use to expect from rechargeable NiCAD and NiMH batteries.
   >I realize this deteriorates as the batteries age, but I am curious
   >what to expect when they are "new" and fully charged.

Jeff,

I've used Panasonic 1100maH NiCad and T2T 1350maH NiMH and got 3-4 hours
off the former and 5-7 hours off the latter, before the low battery
warning comes on. I have a 2x/6mb 200LX.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 21:32:00 +0100
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              Ian's <isarg@LUNA.CO.UK>
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Hi folks,

I have recently upgraded and now have the following for sale:

200LX - Virtually Mint condition, complete with all manuals and in
               original box. This includes 2 x 750mA rechargeable batteries
               and an HP AC Adapter (HP part No: F1011A)
               Also includes the serial connection kit as well.

HP 1.8M Flashdisk (HP part No: F1024A)

HP 6M Flashdisk (HP part No: F1215C)

I am happy to send the above anywhere in the world but I will have to
have your money in my bank before I do so. Please note that I live in
England.

Offers please and no time wasters

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 21:52:19 +0100
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              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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From:         Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Articles on InfoSelect for DOS
MIME-Version: 1.0

Does anyone know of any articles on InfoSelect which gives ideas for
using it? I have the manual which contains a lot of examples of ideas
for using InfoSelect but I find "independent" articles are always a
source of good ideas as they come from real experience.

I use IS on a daily basis now. I use it to capture random information I
pick up during the course of the day as a Technical Manager for Kimberly
Clark. I get a ton of info flying across my desk (from 2 e-mail systems,
faxes, letters, phone calls, reports, reading etc) and I find it's a
great piece of software for capturing random info. The notetaker,
database etc on the 200LX is too "structured" for me although I do use
the HP200LX appointment book and to do. I also use it for ideas as well
as a bunch of other things.

My only gripe is the small HP200LX screen makes the text really hard to
read. Using zoom (Fn + space) but you have to scroll around the screen
with the menu plus arrow keys and you only get to see one window at a
time.

Thanks


Peter

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 15:58:18 -0600
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              Tom Hoover <thoover@POBOX.COM>
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From:         Tom Hoover <thoover@POBOX.COM>
Organization: Ariel Solutions
Subject:      Re: LXTCP (Was: WWW/lx, Goin' Postal vs Nettamer)
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> Note that LXTCP is *not* for the user-interface oriented.  It is a set
> of command-line programs and will stay that way.  The Palmtop News
> Reader provides the user interface for Mail and News.

BTW- if anyone using LXTCP needs a copy of the .bat file that I run...just
yell.  I can easily connect via one of _several_ different providers/phone
numbers _AND_ pickup mail from all of my pop3 accounts during the same
phone call.

--
Tom Hoover N5NTM <thoover@pobox.com> - http://pobox.com/~thoover
    - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 23:11:54 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <natas@ACC.UMU.SE>
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From:         Tomas Moberg <natas@ACC.UMU.SE>
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I have followed that discussion about the pros and cons between Goin
postal Nettamer www/lx etc.

But I have found a graphical browser caled Arachne (means spider I guess)
at www.fdisk.com. This Arachne browser runs on a XT with CGA.(well it is
suposed to. a bit troublesome with some text and gfx not beeing visable in
CGA mode)
I have not gotten it to work properly but i guess here are some handy
folks that can tell us what it is like.

It is a bit difficult to setup in CGA mode due to disepearing text in CGA.
So i run the setup on my 486 and transfereed it to my HP2000lx.
It conects ok, but then nothing more...?

 So if You think You know how to get this one to work, the adress is:
www.fdisk.com (not realy, but its a click away). At this site is also a
Lynx clone for xt machine called bobcat. I have gotten this one to work on
my 486 but on my hp200lx it say "no expanded memmory". Any ideas?.

Well. All of this because I can not afford $89  ;->

   /tomas

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 22:04:56 +0100
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              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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This one may be of interest to U.K. members of the mailing list:-

I thought I'd let you know that my local Motor World in Mold, Flintshire
sells GP (Gold Peak) alkalines at 50 pence for four. Can't go wrong at
that price. I think they're a national outlet so you might
want to look up your local branch.

As far as NiMH's, I was in Dixons in Cardiff recently and they were
selling four "Camlink" brand NiMH batteries for 9.99 UK pounds (about
USD$16.50). They're rated at 1300 mAh. Is that a good price? First time
I've seen NiMH's on sale in the "high street".

Regards

Peter

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 09:39:14 +1200
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From:         David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Re: InfoSelect for DOS

   >Does anyone know of any articles on InfoSelect which gives ideas for
   >using it? I have the manual which contains a lot of examples of

<Snip>

   >My only gripe is the small HP200LX screen makes the text really
   >hard to read. Using zoom (Fn + space) but you have to scroll around
   >the screen with the menu plus arrow keys and you only get to see
   >one window at a time.
   >Thanks
   >Peter
   >Dr Peter Maddern
   >Technical Manager
   >North Wales, UK.

Have you tried one of the alternative fonts written for the LX?
They "Un-Muddy"(!!) up the display, once tried, always used!
Try the super page www.palmtop.net/super.html

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 09:36:46 +0000
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From:         "Jay W. Summet" <jay@SUMMET.COM>
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Well, I was cleaning out some boxes, and found some old software (and a
piece of cool hardware, read on) that nobody would ever want unless they
had a DOS machine......
I'm going to give you people a chance to buy it for (about) what it will
cost me to ship it.....

Pricing: 10$ per item if you buy one item.
         10$ for the first, 5$ for each additional item if you buy more
                        or
         20$ for all four, if one person buys it all.

1. MS Word 3.0 for DOS (opened but complete as far as I can tell)
   This is the old microsoft binder, with disks and manual all in one grey
   binder. 5 1/2" disks.

2. MS Word (Unopened, in shrink wrap) Appears to be just like the version
   above (ie, word 3.0) it's some version of word, and I assume because it
   looks just like the other one, that it's 3.0 as well.

3. Lotus 123 box set. A bookcase box which has the Tutorial, Reference
   Manual, Getting started book, and disks. Disks are 5 1/2" and there are
   six of them. The disks say "Release 2" but there is absolutely no other
   version markings on the 123 pacage that I can find.
   (it also includes a function key "map" out of plastic which would just
   about fit on the Hp200lx ;>)

And the piece de resistance....

4. A FORD modem. Yes, right on the front of this modem (aprox: 12x8x4) is
   the Ford emblem and "Dealer computer services".  The number "224" is on
   the front, so I *ass*ume that it's a 2400 BPS unit. It comes with a
   standard RS-232 looking DB25 male adaptor on the cable that comes out
   of it.


Anyways, I realize that none of this stuff has any real VALUE...so unless
somebody wants to pay me to ship it to them I will be throwing it out at
the end of the week.  If you do want it, send me your address and I'll
send it to you with a SASE for return of payment.

Jay W. Summet

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 22:55:09 +0100
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              Ross Lewis <ross@ESOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Hi Ian

Would you be willing to sell the 6Meg card on it's own ?
If so, I live in Birmingham UK and am interested.

Cheers
Ross

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To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        200LX For Sale

Hi folks,

I have recently upgraded and now have the following for sale:

200LX - Virtually Mint condition, complete with all manuals and in
               original box. This includes 2 x 750mA rechargeable batteries
               and an HP AC Adapter (HP part No: F1011A)
               Also includes the serial connection kit as well.

HP 1.8M Flashdisk (HP part No: F1024A)

HP 6M Flashdisk (HP part No: F1215C)

I am happy to send the above anywhere in the world but I will have to
have your money in my bank before I do so. Please note that I live in
England.

Offers please and no time wasters

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 10:36:49 +0000
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Well, I just found a buyer for that stuff I was selling, so nobody else needs
to reply....thanks,
Jay

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 17:12:22 -0700
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Walter,

Your message is a perfect lead-in to my "walking in with a bit
of egg on the face" routine:

> >And the worst thing about that host is that HV supports
> >HTTP1.1. The host simply looks at the name that the browser
> >sends as identification and decides that it is not MSIE or
> >Netscape, so it cannot be anything legitimate! I hate
> >brainlesness!

I wrote that HV supports HTTP 1.1. WRONG!!! It supports
HTTP 1.0. A famous lurker here (my alter-conscience Andreas
Garzotto) sent me a "corrective" message on this. I stand
corrected, Andreas, and thank you.

In fact, he was surprised that HTTP 1.1 was out.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 17:12:16 -0700
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Neil,

Gee, what did you do to your email address: $neil$@, well, if
it bounces ,too bad. I am also posting on the list.

> a few minutes, I might just as well delete the installation and
> re-install
> taking note of what was unclear. It's a nice sunny day, so I'll probably
> do
> that in the garden later :-)

One of the most wonderful things about palmtops is that you
can work in nice places, not tethered to a desk.

> >Yes, most people do. Maybe I should take the risk and put on
> >the file - RTFM!!!!!!! :)
>
> You'll never get us old timers into that habit :-)

I bet I am even more old timer than you!

> The reason I want to strip it down is so I can put a copy on the flash
> card
> used in my digital camera, for the purpose of mailing pictures back =
home.
>  I
> tend to strip most applications down once I feel that the docs are no
> longer required or if some facilities are useless to me. I remember the
> days before hard discs, and believe wholeheartedly in small efficient
> code.

That is one good reason.

> >At that price I'd jump out of business! :)
>
> I appreciate that, and to be honest I'm seriously considering pressing
> the
> R button. I *do* like the idea of a well engineered complete package, =
but

Any time. Just beware that I review all the messages in
Register, and I sometimes do not work 24 hours a day, and my
weekends are no longer working time, except rarely, like now
:) ...

> a couple of thousand users. If I'm honest, USD89 is actually pretty =
good
> value. Maybe if I think of it as just over UKP50, it doesn't sound so =
bad
> :-)

Or quite a chunk under $100? :) ... "Look Honey, how much
money they saved me from the prior price..." you can then tell
that to your wife :-) ... Then run.

> You're welcome, and as I said I'll look again at the installation - as =
a
> programmer myself I know how easy it is to miss a difficulty for the =
user
> because you are too close to the product. It often needs someone to =
come
> in
> cold and use the product to find the annoying little things the author
> missed.

In our previous iteration, we brought into the Beta "fresh
meat" late in the game. Several people who have actually never
been on the internet, at least not using palmtops.

And we just threw them in. No instructions no nothing. Most
were up in less than a day, and they went wild!

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 19:35:56 -0500
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I think the Arachne web browser requires at least a 286. That could be
what the problem is. If that's not it good luck!

Jeff


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> Does anyone know of any articles on InfoSelect which gives ideas for
> using it? I have the manual which contains a lot of examples of ideas
> for using InfoSelect but I find "independent" articles are always a
> source of good ideas as they come from real experience.

http://www.stepup.com.au/product/info/Reviews/magazine.htm
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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 18:12:01 -0700
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Could the system manager get corrupted as to the status of Lite Sleep?
Could the machine not sleep and eat batteries without us knowing?  If
this is so, it would explain how some machines (mine included) eat
batteries untill the machine is reset and reloaded.  I did an
initialization of ram disk and someone else posted removing the
batteries for 24 hours to fully reset the machine.  Afterwards the
batteries lasted a normal time.....

Dan Carrington




Jeff Malka wrote:

> I wonder what the experience of the users has been in the number of
> hours
> of use to expect from rechargeable NiCAD and NiMH batteries.
>
> I realize this deteriorates as the batteries age, but I am curious
> what to
> expect when they are "new" and fully charged.
>
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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 18:15:42 -0700
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I use Shier Systems NiMh 1200 mah batteries and used to have good hours
before 2x speed and 6 meg memory but I don't remember how many.  After
2x and 6 meg upgrade I had 3-5 hours performance.  After system rebuild
from initializing ram disk I now get 13-15 hours performance on same
machine with 2x and 6 meg!!!

Dan Carrington


Longden Loo wrote:

> Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 16:38:59 +0000
> Message-ID: <19980510163850.AAB13052@12.64.8.153>
>
> On 1998-05-09 malkajef@orthohelp.com said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
>    >I wonder what the experience of the users has been in the number
> of
>    >hours of use to expect from rechargeable NiCAD and NiMH batteries.
>
>    >I realize this deteriorates as the batteries age, but I am curious
>
>    >what to expect when they are "new" and fully charged.
>
> Jeff,
>
> I've used Panasonic 1100maH NiCad and T2T 1350maH NiMH and got 3-4
> hours
> off the former and 5-7 hours off the latter, before the low battery
> warning comes on. I have a 2x/6mb 200LX.
>
> - Longden
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered
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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 21:34:35 -0400
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> Could the system manager get corrupted as to the status of Lite Sleep?
> Could the machine not sleep and eat batteries without us knowing?  If
> this is so, it would explain how some machines (mine included) eat
> batteries untill the machine is reset and reloaded.

I would be interested in knowing this, also, since my present usable hours
(with Mack's super batteries) is quite short: full charge to 2.40 in 4
hours; full to 2.50 in 1.5 hours (numbers compliments of BATTLOG).

I have Buddy; serial port is locked OFF; lite sleep is ON.

> I did an initialization of ram disk and someone else posted removing the
> batteries for 24 hours to fully reset the machine.  Afterwards the
> batteries lasted a normal time.....

The alternate version of this technique I read about is to backup; remove
all batteries, and hold the <ON> button down for 5 minutes. I did this
with no change in battery life.

I have an EXP LXM-8 card that is always in, although recently I have
sometimes removed it to see if that made a perceptible difference in
battery time; it did NOT. All modem sessions with it are done using AC
power.

I am going to try going back to my original Shier Systems NiMH batteries
and see if they act different than the Mack batteries.

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 21:41:05 -0400
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55.00 plus shipping.
cleaning out closet.
thanks
mike

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 20:41:24 -0500
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> > > I thought I read about some software that would allow you to play
> > > different alarm sounds for different appointments...
> >
> > It's called PAT.ZIP. I don't find it on SUPER. I'll look in the
> > Palmtop Paper Subscriber's Disks.
> > Regards
> > Antonio
>
> I found it on CIS. If you need a copy, Let me know.
> Cheers,
> Al Kind

Thanks for the copy, Antonio.
Thanks for the offer, Al.

Mike Goggin

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 20:15:54 -0600
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              Carol <cmb@TOTACC.COM>
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A friend sent this to me --
Anyone know about these wireless keyboards?  Is there such a thing for HP
200LX?
 Now, that would be soooo cool.

Carol

================
Darwin Keyboards
================

Go Wireless with the Ultimate Surfing Keyboard! Darwin Keyboards
introduces the FreeBoard.  With FreeBoard's market-leading infra-red
(IR) technology, you will never have to worry about cables again! Now
you have the freedom to lean back and get comfortable while you work on
documents, play games, or surf the Internet. FreeBoard's IR  technology
is the most reliable in the business. It is the same technology that
comes with WebTV. It works up to 20 feet, has double the battery life of
other designs, and is so easy to set up. Just plug it into your computer
(or WebTV), and you are ready to go!  If you are looking for a wireless
keyboard, FreeBoard is your answer! Visit Darwin Keyboard s Web Site
today  to learn more about the Freeboard and its special introductory
price of only $89.95

Take advantage of this great Darwin Keyboards offer today at:
==>http://www2.viaweb.com/cgi-bin/clink?darwinkeyboards+wkYD9P+index.html

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 19:15:40 -0700
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Hi all!

I have been looking for an application that will bridge the gap between
the PIM on my desktop - Outlook 98 and my HP 200LX's (Appointment Book,
To-Do List & Phone Book) - has anyone heard of such a utility?  Is
anyone willing to write one?

I have called Puma Technology and there "boiler-plate" response is no we
do not have such a utility and Puma currently has dropped support for
HP200LX in it's new software.  I looked on Super and found a utility for
the HP100LX - but no 200LX :(

Does anyone out there know of one?

Thanks in advance for your help.


Abizar Vakharia
abizar@shults.com

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 22:32:14 EDT
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              CSchlim <CSchlim@AOL.COM>
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I use a wireless keyboard and mouse.   It is made by Logitech and runs under
95 so I don't think there would be a way to work it for the HPLX.  They are
both great even if you have to run Windows!!!

Check around if you are going to get them.   I bought mine a couple weeks
ago...at CompUSA....$99 for both together.   The same thing at Computer City
was $129.00   Neither were on sale.

Cathy

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Date:         Sun, 10 May 1998 19:45:51 -0700
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Hi!

Yep!  I sync. once a Week with Quicken 98 and HP 200LX using Quicken Connect
Version 2.2... I remember having a problem with older version of Quicken
Connect and Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 3)



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I can't get Pocket Quicken Connect to sync PQ on the 200LX with Quicken 6 on
Windows NT.  I can do it on Windows 95.  Anyone had any luck with an NT
connection?
Thanks!

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 08:48:20 +0200
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On Sat, 9 May 1998, Chris Grolleman wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I seem to remember that it is possible to tell the HP 95 LX to NOT check its
> IR port in order ot save power. However, I don't remember how to do that:
> there was a command for that, but what was it again? Could someone help me
> with that?

In DOS, the serial/IR port can be turned off with the SERCTL command.
(Works just like on the 200LX I think.)

Use SERCTL /O to turn it off.
    SERCTL /I to turn the IR port on in DOS.
    SERCTL /W to turn the serial port on in DOS.

In the SystemManager, the only way I can think of is to use Buddy95. In
case you don't know, Buddy is a great shareware tool for improving the
LX-series. It has enhanced macro support, enhanced keyboard facitilies,
etc. Great on the 200LX, but essential on the 95LX.

The archive of 95LX software is at:

http://eddie.mit.edu/ftp/pub/hp95lx

You can find Buddy here, although it is also availiable from the author's
homepage I think. The URL escapes me, though.


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 08:57:19 +0200
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On Fri, 8 May 1998, Brenda Clyde wrote:

> Quinton Jones Jr wrote:
> >
> > > Here's a question for the group . . . .
> > >
> > > Is there way to go directly to Filer from a DOS prompt?
> > >
> > > System Manager can't be resident because of memory constraints.  I've tried
> > > entering "200" with the extension parameter "FILER" (C:\200 FILER) but it
> > > doesn't work.  Is there a auto-execute file available when starting System
> > > Manager that would place me into Filer?
> >
> > Instead of trying to use Filer while in DOS, use one of its alternates:
> > DOSSHELL, Stereo Shell, or Norton Commander.
> >
> SNIP
>
> Do you know where to get/buy a copy of norton commander?

An excellent shareware clone of Norton Commander called Volkov Commander
is availiable from SUPER (www.palmtop.net). It works just great on the LX
and installs in ~200kb. One word of warning, though: don't use it in any
of the zoom modes (ie only use it in 80x25) or it will behave oddly. Other
than that no problems, I have it on my LX and use it occasionally.

Regards,

Laust


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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 09:22:46 +0100
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There was a previous post that only v5 onwards are Y2k compliant...
Jez


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Date:    08/05/98 21:49
 What you can do is look for version 4 for Windows, which uses the same
file format (and less real estate on your desktop).

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 10:22:09 +0100
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Hi Ross,

Thanks for the email.

>Would you be willing to sell the 6Meg card on it's own ?
>If so, I live in Birmingham UK and am interested.

     In a word YES but only if the 200LX goes on it's own.
    As I am sure you can appreciate, I would rather sell the
    whole lot as a package and there are a couple of other
    interested parties.

     I'll keep you in the picture though.

     For your info, these are the details I am supplying to others

        The 200LX is a 2M model
        Ser No is: SG70600529 so it was made in Feb 1997
         I'm looking for around =A3125, with AC Adapter and comms!
        1.8M Flashdisk - =A325
         6M Flashdisk - =A375
                                           Or =A3200 the lot!
                                            =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D

Please note that as of 16:00 today (Mon 11th) I am away for three days,
so will be unable to check my email. If you are interested I can always b=
e
contacted on my mobile.

Regards
Ian
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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 11:57:34 +0200
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              Gert Thomasen <Gert.Thomasen@ETSI.FR>
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I just offered you 200 GBP for the HP200 LX. That was an ERROR. I intended
to write USD 200 and would then convert that figure to GBP, which is about
GBP 120. But I will certainly pay 125 GBP for it alone. I am VERY VERY
interested now when I know it is the version I am looking for.

Gert Thomasen
g.thomasen@ieee.org

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 08:15:07 -0400
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> --- begin of forwarded message ---
>
> Date  Mon, 11 May 1998 10:27:47 +0300 (EET DST)
> From  Alexander Stanovoy <alex@tipas.lt>
> Subject  Re 200LX For Sale
>
> I'm looking for HP200LX but what about price? And what payement way
> You'll
> accept?
>
> On Sun, 10 May 1998, Ian's wrote:
>
> > Date Sun, 10 May 1998 21:32:00 +0100
> > From Ian's <isarg@LUNA.CO.UK>
> > Reply-To HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
> >     Ian's <isarg@LUNA.CO.UK>
> > To HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject 200LX For Sale
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I have recently upgraded and now have the following for sale:
> >
> > 200LX - Virtually Mint condition, complete with all manuals and in
> >                original box. This includes 2 x 750mA rechargeable
> batteries
> >                and an HP AC Adapter (HP part No: F1011A)
> >                Also includes the serial connection kit as well.
> >
> > HP 1.8M Flashdisk (HP part No: F1024A)
> >
> > HP 6M Flashdisk (HP part No: F1215C)
> >
> > I am happy to send the above anywhere in the world but I will have to
> > have your money in my bank before I do so. Please note that I live in
> > England.
> >
> > Offers please and no time wasters
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* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
*                        |___/
*Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd
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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 20:28:23 +0800
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              Hans Pirker <nadine@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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Dear Crombie,

Experienced exactly the same problem when traveling in Australia with my
HP200LX, X3 solved the problem.

I use this AT command now as a standard feature on both cc:mail anf fax
software
as I travel a lot.

Best regards
Hans Pirker

Crombie Redd wrote:

> Hi Alain,
>
> I'm in Melbourne too! Mt Eliza in fact.
>
> Never used that modem but I'll bet the problem is with DIAL TONE DETECT. You
> must turn it off but using ATX3 as the init string. Try it. Good luck.
>
> Crombie Redd
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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 20:28:13 +0800
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Dear Yehuda,

n the SUPER Palmtop site you can download "GDBIO" A VERY USEFUL  Dbase
conversion utility with a good documentation inside.

Best regards
Hans Pirker

J S wrote:

>      Hello!
>
>      Can some tell me how do i convert the file of the phone list to a text
>      file and how do i convert a text file i have to the format of the
>      phone list of the 200lx
>
>      Thanks Yehuda.
>
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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 07:38:18 -0500
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              Arturo Galindo Godinez <agalindo@MAIL.GIGA.COM>
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Hi there you all, maybe one of you can  send the Goin'postal address where
one can download that little jewel.

TIA

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 08:09:12 -0600
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Pocket Quicken & Quicken v6.0
Comments: cc: "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@ix.netcom.com>
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> I think you must be referring to version 7 for DOS, he's
> talking about version 6 for windows.

Is there any advantage to using the Windows version of Quicken?  I
have been reasonably pleased with this version 7 DOS of the program,
but then again, maybe there are some real nifty features that I
"need" and just don't know about!?!?

However, on the down side, I have occassionally heard comments like
this one discussing the trouble with file formats.  Are these
insurmountable problems, or just minor inconveniences?

Thanks,

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 06:10:22 -0700
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From:         "Nancy A. Barker" <nancyb@BEST.COM>
Subject:      Re: Prioritized Alarm Sounds

On 1998-05-09 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to nancyb@best.com

   >> It's called PAT.ZIP. I don't find it on SUPER. I'll look in the
   >> Palmtop Paper Subscriber'S Disks.

   >I found it on CIS. If you need a copy, Let me know.

I'd like a copy, please!

thanks,
nancy

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 09:29:23 -0400
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A few months ago I posted a tip to help fix the hinge crack.  I noted that
SuperGlue does not melt scotch tape, so if you covered the area with
scotch tape then cut along the crack with an X-Acto knife, you could get
the glue in the crack while minimizing the damage to the visible part of
the case.  I was honored to have this tim enter the FAQ.

The crack in my palmtop opened up again, so I tried the same trick.
thankfully, I retested my trick on a piece of scotch tape first.
Apparently, the Radio Shack version of SuperGlue _DOES_ dissolve scotch
tape.  Fortunately, it did it slow enough that I could still use my
technique, but I had to remove the scotch tape right away.

So test you glue/tape combo away from your precious baby before you try to
patch the crack.


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DK KD                                  http://start.at/david.kramer
DKK D
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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 10:19:45 -0400
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From:         Brian Girling <girling@ICA.NET>
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Subject:      USR Sportster 14,400 setup?
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Hi -

I have the above external fax/modem attached and working on my desktop
and wanted to try QFAX from my 200lx with it.

I didn't change any of the DIP switches on the modem and duplicated the
init string on my palmtop (within QFAX, cc:Mail and WWW/LX) but I don't
hear a dial-tone from the modem and it won't connect even using X3 in
the init string.

Any users of this modem out there in cyberland who can give me some
pointers?  I put the modem back on my desktop and everything works fine!


Brian
Great Canadian Holidays Inc.
Our Web Site: http://home.ica.net/~girling/ventures/
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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 16:25:09 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <natas@ACC.UMU.SE>
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Will not work!
Windows disables the Menu key i think. Good idea though

----------------------------------------------------
<Try this, all you need is 14 tiny little fingers! Hold down the
<Alt + Menu and type the ascii extended code on the numpad.
<
<I think some of the keys you want are like 143 132 148

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 07:41:12 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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              Godinez at "May 11, 98 07:38:18 am"
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It now has a link on the SUPER pages:  www.palmtop.net

> Hi there you all, maybe one of you can  send the Goin'postal address where
> one can download that little jewel.
>
> TIA
>
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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 10:49:16 -0400
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              Chin Jien Hung <jienhung@SINGNET.COM.SG>
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Follow this link to download GOIN' POSTAL :
http://home.earthlink.net/~sdlsaginaw/

Jien Hung

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 09:25:50 PDT
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              Jared Zerbe <jared@RAMBUS.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Pocket Quicken & Quicken v6.0

Hi-

Thanks to those out there who rapidly answered my original question,
and to share what I now know:

1) The current 200LX Manual is woefully out of date when it comes to
syncing quicken... at least with the windows version.  Perhaps quicken
for DOS still uses .QDT files, but the windows version does not.  The
200lx manual, however strongly advises buying the Cpack.  What it
should do instead is point you to the Intuit web site which is much
more up to date.

2) Pocket quicken connect is a very fast, easy way to upload
transactions and download balances and make sure things reconcile.
Base-PC transactions, however aren't downloaded.  Check out
www.quicken.com.

3) Possibly most interesting...
   The person I ordered from at Intuit said ***Pocket quicken connect
   will be discontinued in '99**  She wasn't clear on if it would be
   replaced (doubtful) or just cut from their offering.  So beware...


Jared
--
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Rambus Inc.                     ...standard disclaimer here...

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 09:43:18 -0700
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              Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
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> On 1998-05-09 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to nancyb@best.com
>
>    >I found it on CIS. If you need a copy, Let me know.

Folks,

Is there a lot of stuff on CI$ that isn't on super?

Does someone have the CIS file catalog?


Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 06:45:51 -0700
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              bamcilvaine <bamcilvaine@PALMTOP.COM>
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Hey everyone. I thought that with the outstanding job that was done with the
comparison of the BIG THREE email programs, I thought that I would ask a
comparison which will not have nearly as broad based application or support,
but one that I am curious about none the less. I have seen several small
threads discussed on it, and I would like to hear the well balanced opinnions
that are voiced here on a regular basis.

The programs I am interested in are Agenda, InfoSelect, and AskSAM. If anyone
out ther has experience with one or more of these programs, I would appreciate
hearing about it. I currently own Agenda, and I am considering purchasing one
of the others as well. I am particularly interrested in their functionality on
the HPLX.

Thanks for any input I receive on this!

Brian

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 14:27:22 -0400
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              Laurence Harvey <harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>> The only thing I have done, is oil the
>>ight hand hinge with a light oil, and that seems to have prevented any
>>further development of the faint crack I originally detected about 9
months
>> ago.

>But has the screen become floppy? =


My screen was originally quite stiff, so the addition of a little oil mad=
e
it acceptable. The screen still supports its own weight, and picking the
palmtop up by the screen half when open does not cause the unit to open
further, however a light jolt when holding the screen half does cause it =
to
open further - if this gives any indication of the current stiffness?

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 11:28:14 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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> Will not work!
> Windows disables the Menu key i think. Good idea though
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> <Try this, all you need is 14 tiny little fingers! Hold down the
> <Alt + Menu and type the ascii extended code on the numpad.
> <
> <I think some of the keys you want are like 143 132 148

Have you tried changing the keyboard in Windows setup?



Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 15:21:31 -0600
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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Organization: Phase IV Systems, Inc.
Subject:      Large FLASH Disks
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Has anyone tried out the 160MB FLASH disks that I saw for sale on the
list recently?  I'm getting close to buying one, and I'd like to hear
a report.  For example, are there any problems with a disk this
large?

-Chris Lott


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I was just in Powell's Technical books
(http://www.powells.com)
503-228-3906
orders 1-800-225-6911
they have a copy in the dos software section of under lotus
123 and a copy in the dos overstock section

1-2-3 Database Techniques
by Dick Anderson & Bill Weil
for release 2.2 464pp indexed,


And quite a few other books for 123 dos.

Powell's is setup for internet sles and service.

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 13:28:47 -0700
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Folks,

I'm trying to switch over to using the hplx instead of a paper pocket
calendar.
I was wondering if anyone has a appt book file that has the standard US
legal holidays marked?   Example 5/25 is memorial day
that type of thing.

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 16:19:58 -0600
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I read recently (last 6 months) about a converter that would strip
out tags from an HTML file and generate plain text files.  I don't
recall if it did any simple LYNX-type formatting, or not.  But I
can't find it anywhere...  try searching for HTML and TEXT on the
internet - yeowww! lots of matches.  Anyone heard of this utility?

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 19:58:58 +0100
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              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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I thought alternate fonts only worked with the built - in applications
and not with DOS applications?

In message , David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ> writes
>   <Snip>
>
>   >My only gripe is the small HP200LX screen makes the text really
>   >hard to read. Using zoom (Fn + space) but you have to scroll around
>   >the screen with the menu plus arrow keys and you only get to see
>   >one window at a time.
>   >Thanks
>   >Peter
>   >Dr Peter Maddern
>   >Technical Manager
>   >North Wales, UK.
>
>Have you tried one of the alternative fonts written for the LX?
>They "Un-Muddy"(!!) up the display, once tried, always used!
>Try the super page www.palmtop.net/super.html
>
>David Lawrence
>katana@clear.net.nz
>
>Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive
>

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Technical Manager
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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 16:51:37 -0500
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              kjh <kjhmdjd@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Hmmm...version 2.2 of PQ Connect is what I have - and it installs into
Quicken 6 (32-bit version for Windows) on NT, service pack 3, but then it
absolutely refuses to begin the transaction transfers.  Did you have to make
any .com port changes, etc., to NT to get it to work?
Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: Abizar Vakharia <abizar@shults.com>
To: 'HPLX Mailing List' <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; 'kjh'
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Date: Sunday, May 10, 1998 10:17 PM
Subject: RE: Pocket Quicken & Quicken v6.0


>Hi!
>
>Yep!  I sync. once a Week with Quicken 98 and HP 200LX using Quicken
Connect
>Version 2.2... I remember having a problem with older version of Quicken
>Connect and Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 3)
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn Behalf Of
>kjh
>Sent: Friday, May 08, 1998 11:01 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: Pocket Quicken & Quicken v6.0
>
>
>I can't get Pocket Quicken Connect to sync PQ on the 200LX with Quicken 6
on
>Windows NT.  I can do it on Windows 95.  Anyone had any luck with an NT
>connection?
>Thanks!
>
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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 14:48:54 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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Well, I got a response from Earthlink and played around TELNETing
into their server a bit.  The only requirement the server appears
to have is a Host: header line.  It even takes a HTTP/1.0 specification.

It appears the Host: header is used to host multiple domains on a
single server without requiring multiple IP addresses.  It tells
the web server the hostname which was in the URL the browser
processed.  Prior to this the only way to support multiple domains
on one web server was to assign a unique IP address for each domain.

Should be an easy change to make in WWW/LX.  How's that, I've gone
and helped my competition.. :-)

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 22:09:04 GMT
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On Sun, 10 May 1998 17:12:16 -0700, A. Meshar wrote:

>Gee, what did you do to your email address: $neil$@, well, if
>it bounces ,too bad. I am also posting on the list.

Sorry about that - it's a spam measuring thing suggested by another Demon
subscriber. Apparently the address harvesters are confused by $ or @ in =
the
name field, so some of us are trying it out to see if any spam arrives =
for
these user names. I forgot that my .nu address only accepts neil as a =
user,
whereas I accept anything at the demon address!

>One of the most wonderful things about palmtops is that you
>can work in nice places, not tethered to a desk.

I did revisit the setup yesterday evening, following an afternoon spent =
in
the local pub garden with friends. I couldn't see anything particularly
confusing, so I reckon I was looking for trouble first time around :-)
Therefore, withdraw my original comment about confusing installation.

>I bet I am even more old timer than you!

<grin>

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 06:58:05 -0700
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Jared -

I gave up on PQ. I have simeply installed Quicken 5.0(DOS) and run it as my
only Quicken program - I don't run anything on the desktop, except to back up
the data files.

Brian

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 15:41:18 -0700
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Chris Lott wrote:
>
> I read recently (last 6 months) about a converter that would strip
> out tags from an HTML file and generate plain text files.  I don't
> recall if it did any simple LYNX-type formatting, or not.  But I
> can't find it anywhere...  try searching for HTML and TEXT on the
> internet - yeowww! lots of matches.  Anyone heard of this utility?

Why not just use lynx itself?
  % lynx -dump -nolist <url>

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 19:36:12 -0400
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              "S.Todd" <70312.462@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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On Fri, 8 May 1998 17:26:45 -0400, N Fosteras wrote:

>I was looking up the details of a city in WorldTime, and noticed a
>spelling mistake.  Longitude is spelled Longipude.  I whipped out my
>backup 200LX, and noticed it was spelt correctly there.  My (misspelling=

>machine) is a 2MB upgraded to 6MB and doublespeed, ROM version 1.02a.
>My backup is a 1MB ROM 1.01a.

Really??

I have two 1.02a units: an original 2 MB, and a 1 MB upgraded
to 8/doublespeed. Both are OK.

S.Todd

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 19:21:00 -0700
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>I was looking up the details of a city in WorldTime, and noticed a
>spelling mistake.  Longitude is spelled Longipude.  I whipped out my
>backup 200LX, and noticed it was spelt correctly there.  My (misspelling
>machine) is a 2MB upgraded to 6MB and doublespeed, ROM version 1.02a.
>My backup is a 1MB ROM 1.01a.

I'm wondering if this is perhaps specific to a particular city.  None of
the ones  I have looked at have the spelling error, but maybe it's only
one city.  Which city was it?  Or was it all of them?

--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 19:03:07 -0500
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              "Tony D. Guzewicz" <tddg@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Hi Bernie
I'll probably be sending the check later this week since I needed to
find a new buyer for my 40 meg card. I'll let you know what day the
check is sent. Hope your time in NY wasn't too wet.
Tony

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 21:29:42 -0400
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Chris Lott wrote:

> I read recently (last 6 months) about a converter that would strip
> out tags from an HTML file and generate plain text files.

There are a bunch of these.  I think at least one is on SUPER.  I know
of a very nice one that does formatting - including tables (with a bunch
of options).  It can also be configured to replace html tags with
printer control codes to produce documents with large headers, bold,
italic, underline, etc.  It's freeware, written by Bruce Guthrie.
Check his site at:

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/2414/

The version I DL'd a few months back is htmst711.zip   He does
frequent updates, so the numbers on the end are probably different.
If you have any problem with getting this, let me know, & I'll send
you a copy.  It's not little - the .exe is over 140K, but I think it
does a lot more than most of the others.

You might also try VIEW.  I'm pretty sure this one's on SUPER.  Does
less with HTML, but can be used on msword docs and other WP files.
Also can convert from unix docs to dos, and a lot more. If not try:

http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/~mdrury/shware.html

HTH

-PR
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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 21:29:47 -0400
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Patrick West wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone has a appt book file that has the standard US
> legal holidays marked?   Example 5/25 is memorial day
> that type of thing.

I think there's one on SUPER.  Do a search for "holiday".  If it's not
there, I think I have a disk from PTP that has two of these.  They both
have fixed holidays - eg Christmas=3D12/25  or Mothers Day=3D2nd Sunday =
in
May, but not movable Religious holidays like Passover or Easter.

-PR
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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 21:49:44 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Hello again-

I goofed on the location of the holiday adb file.  It's not on SUPER,
but you can get to it thru the palmtop.net site.  Go to the "Database
Repository" link, and look for holiday,zip

Sorry for the mixup  8-)

-PR
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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 20:57:43 -0500
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              "M. C. Beutler" <mycroft_h@BIGFOOT.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Data Aquisition Using 200LX?

On 05-04 11:00pm, you had written

>>
>> Date:    Mon, 4 May 1998 01:48:20 -0400
>> From:    Doric Swain <D.Swain@CCHS.USYD.EDU.AU>
>> Subject: Re: Data Acquisition Using 200LX?
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
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>>
>> At 03:11 PM 30/04/98 -0400, Michael Stocker wrote:
>> >I was wondering if any listees have had any experience with using 200LX'
for
>> >multichannel data acquisition?  And/or know of any vendors with products
at
>> >allow 200LXs to do data acquisition through the PCMCIA slot.
>>
>> I have looked into using the National Instruments DAQ700 (a type 2.1 PC
>> card) for data acquisition, without success. The problems I ran up agains
>> include:
>>
>> The HP200lx only support type 2 standard cards, not 2.1
>> The NI DOS drivers are written for the 286 chip-set or higher, and so don
>> work with the HP chip.
>> Considerable work would be involved in writing the acquisition and storag
>> software, and I'm not a programmer
>>
>>                                       O__
>> Doric Swain                           /\ \
>> D.Swain@cchs.usyd.edu.au             /  \
>> ph:Australia (02) 935-19073            ////
>> fax:Australia(02) 935-19204            \\/
>> mail:POBox 170 Lidcombe Australia 2141 //
>>   http://www.cchs.usyd.edu.au/ESS/swain/doric1.htm
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>


This is something that I have pursued quite a bit.  The National cards have
always attracted me, but they tend to be power hogs.  Same for the NI Gpib
cards.  One very serious drawback that I have been bitten by is one that
these cards all seem to have in common. (including the ISA/PCI types)  This
is the lack of circuit isolation that a stand-alone data logger typically
has.  I watched a very expensive laptop go up in smoke when the power supply
in the device being tested shorted and dumped 120VAC into the DAC card and
through the laptop.  A very workable and safe alternative is to use
something like the Fluke Hydra logger (nice unit) and run it via the serial
port.  I have done this with good results.  also, the Omega loggers should
work.  Both these units have very good channel isolation.  My pick is the
Hydra, since it's 21 channels can be programmed individually to measure
resistance, ac/dc current, ac/dc voltage.  Also comes with a DOS program
that runs nicely on the HP200.  The resulting logs are stored as comma
delimited ascii files, which can easily be imported into Lotus.  Both these
and other loggers are available used from Telogy and other used/rental test
equipment houses at prices that will compete with the cost of the DAC PCMCIA
cards.  A very inexpensive (my kinda game) alternative is the EZScope
software with the Analog Devices 2181 Eval board.  The gentleman who wrote
this mentioned it here on this list and posted it to the SUPER site.  I am
working with it now, seems to work ok.

P.S.  Most of these loggers come with manuals that list the software command
      sets used to contol these units. (via Basic, C, etc...)

Have fun with this. I have.<g>

Good luck!
-
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       of it depends on what you put into it"

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 23:47:35 -0400
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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   >I'm trying to switch over to using the hplx instead of a paper
   >pocket calendar.
   >I was wondering if anyone has a appt book file that has the
   >standard US legal holidays marked?   Example 5/25 is memorial day
   >that type of thing.
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 03:47:21 +0000
Message-ID: <19980512034648.AAE6214@12.64.37.162>

I think there's a "database" link at the SUPER site that has what you
want, an adb with holidays that you can merge into your own appt.adb.

Forgot the name, but should be easy to find.

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 00:06:51 -0400
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The file is HDAYS.ADB
It also has Jewish and Islamic holidays.

Longden Loo wrote:

>    >I'm trying to switch over to using the hplx instead of a paper
>    >pocket calendar.
>    >I was wondering if anyone has a appt book file that has the
>    >standard US legal holidays marked?   Example 5/25 is memorial day
>    >that type of thing.
> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 03:47:21 +0000
> Message-ID: <19980512034648.AAE6214@12.64.37.162>
>
> I think there's a "database" link at the SUPER site that has what you
> want, an adb with holidays that you can merge into your own appt.adb.
>
> Forgot the name, but should be easy to find.
>
> - Longden
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered
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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 21:49:11 -0700
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              served )
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i have 2 or 3 lotus 1-2-3 books lying in some bookshelf. i think they
are version 4. they are all for dos version regardless of the version
number. if someone wants to go to the trouble of sending me lots of
cash... no wait, that can't be right... that should say the correct
postage in either satampsa or cash i'll mail you one. i bought them at
booksales at school . i would have to look to see how many i have and
weather they are "QUE" manuals or original manuals etc.  i do know they
are different, i believe i have 2 manuals and one paperback size quick
reference guide. i don't know how to offer these so i'll keep it simple.
if someone wants one, and realizes i wont pay to ship it to you, then
they can e-mail me direct, lets not clog the list and i will give 1st
choice to the 1st response, 2nd choice to the, you get the idea. please
don't ask for one just because their free, i only paid 5 or 8 bucks for
them, so they are no big deal, but i know i need to get rid of some
books so they'll be donated to the library if no one here wants them. i
don't know how to work out the money part. i don't think th us post
office will send C.O.D. mail these days. if they do, maybe thats the
solution. i will gladly provide a manilla mailing envelope. i figure
these are not that desirable to begin with but i know how it is to find
a manual that i have been wanting. i used to 5 extra lotus references
but i think i gave 2 away already. i'll check EXACTLY what i have if i
get a response from someone willing to commit to postage costs.

Patrick West wrote:
>
> I was just in Powell's Technical books
> (http://www.powells.com)
> 503-228-3906
> orders 1-800-225-6911
> they have a copy in the dos software section of under lotus
> 123 and a copy in the dos overstock section
>

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 12:52:22 +0800
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              Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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At 04:19 PM 5/11/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I read recently (last 6 months) about a converter that would strip
>out tags from an HTML file and generate plain text files.  I don't
>recall if it did any simple LYNX-type formatting, or not.  But I
>can't find it anywhere...  try searching for HTML and TEXT on the
>internet - yeowww! lots of matches.  Anyone heard of this utility?
>
>-Chris Lott
>
>
>***********************************************************************
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I have try many HTML to Text converters, I liked H2T shareware by David
Colston which is small and efficient. Can't remember where I obtained it,
maybe from Nettamer Web site. Don't know about LYNX-type formatting.

Cheers.

Chin Jien Hung

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Date:         Mon, 11 May 1998 21:53:30 -0700
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thanks for the update, this is one of my favorite running threads. i
remembered your idea and had kept it in mind, in case i should need it.
my hinge carck is very slight, looks like a gorge on 10 power mag.
though.

richard

David Kramer wrote:
>
> A few months ago I posted a tip to help fix the hinge crack.  I noted that
> SuperGlue does not melt scotch tape, so if you covered the area with
> scotch tape then cut along the crack with an X-Acto knife, you could...

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 00:56:50 -0500
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On Tue, 12 May 1998 00:00:13 -0400, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>From:    Brian Girling <girling@ICA.NET>

>I have the above external fax/modem attached and working on my desktop
>and wanted to try QFAX from my 200lx with it.
>
>I didn't change any of the DIP switches on the modem and duplicated the
>init string on my palmtop (within QFAX, cc:Mail and WWW/LX) but I don't
>hear a dial-tone from the modem

1st, be sure you're using a "straight" modem cable. That is, the normal
palmtop -> desktop cable is a "null" cable with specific wires switched.
If you're using that you'll also need a null modem connector to
"straighten" it back out.

2nd, fire up Datacomm and try to issue Hayes "AT" commands to the modem.
With local echo Off, you should see the modem echo the characters you
type and respond appropriately to your commands, e.g. "AT" + <return>
should coax the modem to say "OK"

As far as WWW/LX goes, I recommend you run it from a DOS prompt when
setting it up -- if you run from System Manager you may miss some
messages, as SysMgr likes to reclaim the screen from DOS very quickly.

HTH,

-Peter

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 01:46:44 -0700
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> Folks,
>
> I'm trying to switch over to using the hplx instead of a paper pocket
> calendar.
> I was wondering if anyone has a appt book file that has the standard US
> legal holidays marked?   Example 5/25 is memorial day
> that type of thing.


Check the SUPER Site's database collection, thats where I got mine.




Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
hands.

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 10:50:26 +0100
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Subject:      Re: Outlook 98 and HP200LX Synch utility
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This is a plea that we keep coming back to, but Puma don't budge.  There is
no software...

You can just about do it with the connectivity pack or with Intellisync or
Intellink (from Puma) for Schedule+, and import from Sch+ to Outlook to go
from 200LX->Outlook.  The reverse requires the use of CSV files, which
causes a lot of problems with repeating items being expanded (and outlook
adds a day to them all).

So no real solution.

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 01:54:15 -0500
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On Sun, 10 May 1998 10:17:21 -0400, Peniel Romanelli articulated...

>Darren Frick wrote:

>> Why does the 200lx run faster when getting poer from the adaptor?

>It's called "light sleep".

Why is it that my 200LX, according to BattLog, doesn't do any light sleep?
I've always wondered about that, but in the info in Battlog it always Light
Sleep = None.  The palmtop does turn itself off, etc..

Fine with me if it's not doing it, I can run for three days without
recharging, and usually charge overnight.

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 02:01:07 -0500
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With all this talk of a certain area of memory getting corrupted and causing
excessive battery usage, surely there is a better way to fix it than to let
the 200LX drown in a sea of no power..

Perhaps someone knowledgable about this area of memory could write a programme
to reset it, and perhaps explain *why* this happens.. :)

Anyone know the address of this area of memory?  It would be fun to compare
the contents to see how widespread this is, and how a 'corrupted' area
compares to a normal one.

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I've seen a really compact IR keyboard (probably similar to the Newton
keyboard) at Office Max that would be awesome on the LX.  I'm pretty sure I've
seen some information on hooking a PC keyboard to the LX before, but I can't
remember for sure.  And this keyboard might require drivers, who knows.. :)

Would be neat though!

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 13:31:42 +0200
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              RIBNITZ Robert <Robert.Ribnitz@UNIFR.CH>
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Look for something like

HTML2PS, HTML2txt etc.

I am sure there are such converters

also check: ftp.dante.de (German CTAN (Latex) Mirror)


yours

Robert
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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 13:44:00 +0200
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Hi!
I am offered to Buy a Apex (Smart modular) st 1414L 14.4K PCMCIA modem but
rumors tells me that this one is VERY power consuming.
I was sugested to buy a Megaherz Xjack XJ1144 or XJ 2144 (what is the
difference between 1144 and 2144).

Anyone using any of the above stated modems or can tell me if the Apex
is OK?
Or is there any other pcmcia modem that You recomend. I do not wish to use
a DC adaptor when I use it.

 (sorry if this is an old discussion)
    /tomas

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 08:47:56 -0400
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Tomas,
I have the Xjack 1144. It's a great modem but it will suck the life out
of a pair of Energizers in a matter of minutes. AC adaptor is a must for
this modem.

> ----------
> From:         Tomas MobergSMTP:natas@ACC.UMU.SE
> Sent:         Tuesday, May 12, 1998 7:44 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Advice on Apex and Megahertz modem please!
>
> Hi!
> I am offered to Buy a Apex (Smart modular) st 1414L 14.4K PCMCIA modem
> but
> rumors tells me that this one is VERY power consuming.
> I was sugested to buy a Megaherz Xjack XJ1144 or XJ 2144 (what is the
> difference between 1144 and 2144).
>
> Anyone using any of the above stated modems or can tell me if the Apex
> is OK?
> Or is there any other pcmcia modem that You recomend. I do not wish to
> use
> a DC adaptor when I use it.
>
>  (sorry if this is an old discussion)
>     /tomas
>
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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 08:02:22 -0500
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On Tue, 12 May 1998, Johnson, Richard C wrote:

> Tomas,
> I have the Xjack 1144. It's a great modem but it will suck the life out
> of a pair of Energizers in a matter of minutes. AC adaptor is a must for
> this modem.
>

On the other hand, I successfully use my XJ1144 for nearly an
hour on a pair of alkalines.  I also typically get 1.5 hours
with a fully charged set of NiCd's.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 10:48:25 -0400
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Walter Francis wrote:
>
> Why is it that my 200LX, according to BattLog, doesn't do any light =
sleep?
> I've always wondered about that, but in the info in Battlog it always =
Light
> Sleep =3D None.  The palmtop does turn itself off, etc..

It's been a while since I used Battlog, but I think the "Light Sleep=3D"
line actually indicates when light sleep was DISABLED.  Kinda
bassackwards logic...

-PR
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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 10:29:04 -0400
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Stumbled across a DOS app called dspeed: Instigated an investigation
Summary:
        My simple technologies flash card reads data at 40% of the system ram
drive speed, but it FINDS that information from 1.6 to 4.0 times faster....
        Stranger still, my old no-name 8MB flash card reads at 50% of the speed
and finds from 1.8 to an astounding 6.7 times faster!
Conclusion: hey, maybe $500 isn't that much for the 32MB upgrade... Well...
:)

Equipment:
C: drive test used an HP200LX w/2x & 5MB total, run on file
'friends.eva'=638265bytes, on AC adaptor
A1: drive test used same machine, but the flash card is a Simple
Technologies 32MB STI-ATAFL/32 (no compression)
A2: drive test is same machine, with an older no-name 8MB flashcard!

Data:
Reading speeds
C:                      A1:             A2:             Ratio1  Ratio2
1 MB                    0.5 MB  0.625
1,418 KB                567 KB  709 KB
1,452,053 B             580,821 B       726,026 B       40%             50%

Seeking speed:
Block
Size            C:(in ns)       A1:      A2:            Ratio1  Ratio2
16k             6593            4,020    3,663  1.6             1.8
32k             10,302  4,848    4,020  2.1             2.6
64k             16,484  6,593    4,848  2.5             3.4
128k            27,473  10,382 6,593    2.6             4.2
256k            54,945  16,484 10,302   3.3             5.3
512k            109,890 27,473 16,484   4.0             6.7

I can't run this pre/post dog since there is one block on my ST flash card
which is bad and DOG chokes on it.  (The 8MB no-name had just been
formatted, so it was 100% defragged) Anyone interested?
Jay
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Hi,

Just restarted to explore PAL and found that I was missing the
command line linker for my Turbo C 1.01 IDE called tlinker.exe.

I'm trying to find if anyone can send me a copy of the same file, but
I doubt if it's remotely possible/legal/what-not. So, if anyone knows
where and how I may buy Turbo C 2.0 (or up), please suggest.

Thanks!

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 11:35:25 -0400
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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I know this sounds rather redundant but...

Isn't there a file on super? H2T.EXE, I believe. If not, then maybe I
got it with Nettamer? If you can't find email me private. I will send
the exe file. It's not perfect but mostly works.


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Lott
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: 5/11/98 6:19 PM
Subject: HPLX-L HTML to TEXT???

I read recently (last 6 months) about a converter that would strip
out tags from an HTML file and generate plain text files.  I don't
recall if it did any simple LYNX-type formatting, or not.  But I
can't find it anywhere...  try searching for HTML and TEXT on the
internet - yeowww! lots of matches.  Anyone heard of this utility?

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 10:10:05 -0600
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              Chris Hoover <choover@IDEATANK.COM>
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I also have a little experience with WWW/LX, Goin' Postal, PNR and =
Nettamer.

The package I tried first was Nettamer. (because it was the only thing I =
had found)  Decent program.  Found it a little daunting to set up. Used =
the eval version while doing some traveling.  Generally liked it, but =
thought it was slow, and a touch ugly. (no offense intended)

I then used PNR for a bit.  Since it uses ZipNews packets, I had to go =
through some gyrations to get the mail of the server and into the palmtop.=
  Set up several scripts to automate much of the process, but it was =
never automatic.  Loved the reader, didn't like the overhead of picking =
up mail, eventually quit using it.

Last week I pulled down the 1.06Beta of Goin Postal. Unpacked it, moved =
it to the HP, set it up per instructions. Setup hung my computer hard =
enough that no key combonations would reboot it.  Pulled the batteries, =
recovered from data that was 10 days old.  (Learned my lesson (again) =
about backing up before playing with new software)  I've always taken the =
view that one crash might be unique. Set it up again. Setup worked, =
program worked until I tried to exit.  Hung the system hard. Set it up =
again. Exited fine, used it. downloaded mail, exited, entered, exited, =
entered, did some responses, queued some mail. Hung on exiting. Deleted =
the software.  I like the small size, didn't like the way I had to keep =
pulling the batteries.  (I'm more than happy to talk to someone about =
these problem if it will help debug.  I don't think I want to reinstall, =
though.)

WWW/LX went on the machine yesterday. Within a couple hours, I decided =
that I liked it enough to pay the $89. (in part because the price had =
come down so much.)  Got the registration code this AM.  Nifty interface, =
easy to use. Small enough to fit on the 2MB machine I have (I'm not using =
it to web surf, so I removed the HV files, and related web surfing stuff. =
Only using POST and WWW.  Installation was not bad. no problems, just =
some reading.  The help files online are great. I'm giving serious thought=
 to using this full time as my mailer.

While it is true that I may prefer WWW/LX at this point, I'm thrilled to =
have the option of many different programs.  I've seen a lot of posts =
about GP that indicate people like it. That's great. I just had a bad =
experience.  Nettamer is a good product.  I just quit using it because I =
stopped traveling so much.  Goin postal had a great, simple interface.  =
Just got to the point where I felt the overhead work to get my mail =
wasn't worth it.  However, the authors should all continue work on their =
products. Each one has just the right niche.

From my 200lx,
Chris

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Chris Hoover
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This email was sent from a palmtop computer


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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 10:22:53 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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Comments: To: choover@IDEATANK.COM
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> Setup hung my computer hard enough that no key combonations would reboot
> it.  Pulled the batteries, recovered from data that was 10 days old.
> (Learned my lesson (again) about backing up before playing with new
> software)

You shouldn't have had to pull the batteries, even during development
and using TDREMOTE (Turbo Debugger) I never hung the thing so bad that
Ctrl-Shift-ON didn't bring it back.. ???

> I'm more than happy to talk to someone about these problem if it will
> help debug.

Yes, I'm very interested to hear exactly what the environment was when
you were having these problems (pure DOS vs sysman, memory available,
single spd vs double spd, and anything else that might help identify
what was happenning on your machine at the time.  You may respond in
private email if you like.

I'm finding that GP just barely fits under SysMan, especially version
2.XX.  It appears to have just a little extra ram left at it's most
memory-hungry phase when using |300 after the path.

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 10:44:33 -0700
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              Joe Barrera <joebar@MICROSOFT.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Outlook 98 and HP200LX Synch utility
Comments: To: "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>

If someone can point me to specs for the various formats, I'd be willing to
write such a conversion utility. I've been meaning to write such for a
while, but I've been too lazy to hunt down the specs.

- Joe

Joseph S. Barrera III <joebar@acm.org>
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reflect the official views of Microsoft Corporation.



                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Brown, William mailto:wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK
                Sent:   Tuesday, May 12, 1998 2:50 AM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        Re: Outlook 98 and HP200LX Synch utility

                This is a plea that we keep coming back to, but Puma don't
budge.  There is
                no software...

                You can just about do it with the connectivity pack or with
Intellisync or
                Intellink (from Puma) for Schedule+, and import from Sch+ to
Outlook to go
                from 200LX->Outlook.  The reverse requires the use of CSV
files, which
                causes a lot of problems with repeating items being expanded
(and outlook
                adds a day to them all).

                So no real solution.

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 13:04:52 -0500
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              Kevin Calman <codex@EARTHLING.NET>
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Carol wrote:
>
> A friend sent this to me --
> Anyone know about these wireless keyboards?  Is there such a thing for HP
> 200LX?
>  Now, that would be soooo cool.
        Not about those, but I have a similar question. I have an old wireless
keyboard from an IBM PCjr (the chicklet-keyed monster), and was
wonderinging if anyone had thought of/attempted/succeded in using this
with an HPLX unit. Any specs on the IR output of the PCjr keybd or
capabilities of the HPLX IR port would be appreciated.
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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 14:23:22 -0400
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      MR/2 and fixpak6 problems

This is peculiar.  I am running MR/2 1.46a and recently upgraded my Warp
4.00 (no fixpaks) by adding FP 6.  Since then a few things have been
behaving strangely.  I have long ago setup with my MR/2 preferences which
include a split screen when in reply mode.  Always worked fine.  Since FP
6, when I go to reply to a message, sometimes it goes into split screen
mode and sometimes not.  When it won't do so, the command to split it
works, but not repeated tries of going back to the message and pressing R
which repeatedly returns me to a single screen reply mode.  Yes I checked
the setup screen and the split screen reply option is still selected.

In another application, BA/2 (Back Again 2), one of the screens comes up
blank instead of the usual contents).  Does anyone know what might be
causing this?  Is it a conflict with the video card, a memory problem (I
have 48MB ram) or what?

I need to stay with FP 6 because I need it's support for the 8GB HD drive
I just purchased, and no I have not moved any software to the new HD yet
so that is not the cause of the problem.  Drive letters have not changed.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks.

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 13:55:43 -0600
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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Thanks for all the tips.  I'll report on my results.  First, the
simplest was using LYNX itself to format the HTML into plain text.
This works great, and I made myself a script file on my UNIX shell
account to do this automatically when needed.  Unfortunately, I don't
have LYNX on my palmtop nor desktop computers.

That's why I tried the other two solutions suggested, H2T by David
Colston of Nettamer fame, and HTMLSTRIP by Bruce Guthrie of Wayne
Software.  Both programs are free.  H2T indeed worked, but as
advertised in the accompanying warnings, it is bare bones.  However,
it is quite small. HTMLSTRIP, on the other hand, generates much
prettier output.  Tables, lists, and a large selection of HTML tags
are understood and supported.

Anyway, there's what I learned.  I'll probably stick to HTMLSTRIP for
my serious work, and carry H2T on the palmtop for casual reading.
And I'll use LYNX itself when in UNIX, now that I know how to use it
"offline" like this.

Thanks for all the help.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 12:07:21 -0700
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              "Bernard A. Torbik" <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
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From:         "Bernard A. Torbik" <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      High Capacity PC Cards and HP Palmtops
Comments: To: Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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The following information is submitted in response to questions Shore
Systems has received concerning the large (>48MB) flash cards recently
described here.
>
Shore Systems Ltd. www.shoresystems.net resells Viking and Simple
Technologies PCMCIA cards. For purposes of this discussion, both vendors
products are assumed to be the same, technically.
>
There are several reasons we resell these vendors products rather than
SanDisk, including:
>
1. Warranty and support:
Viking/Simple guarantee their products for 5 years, versus 1 year for
SanDisk. Viking/Simple also offer a 24-hour Express Exchange, WorldWide, =
for
any defective product, during the warranty period.
>
2. Technical design:
Viking/Simple cards use 64Mbit flash chips and a Lexar controller. SanDis=
k
uses 32Mbit flash chips and a proprietary controller. The 32Mbit chips us=
ed
by SanDisk result in a sort of compression being used to attain their hig=
her
capacities. The result is a much slower card than Viking/Simple.
>
3. Data transfer rates:
Many mfrs advertise a data transfer rate that is stated as =93Burst Mode=94.
However, this is meaningless for most users. The =93CONTINUOUS=94 transfe=
r rate
is what really matters, as this is the length of time required to erase a=
nd
write data from/to a memory block. Viking/Simple achieve continuous trans=
fer
rates of 710-750KB/second versus 400-450KB/second by SanDisk. The burst m=
ode
transfer rates are also better for Viking/Simple, at 10MB/second from hos=
t
to interface versus 6MB/second for SanDisk.
>
4. Power efficiency:
Viking/Simple cards use 22-34mA during write/erase cycles in 3.3 volt mod=
e
vs. 35-45mA for SanDisk in 3.3 volt mode. This is attributable to slower
data transfer rates and a less efficient card controller design. Power
consumption in sleep mode is also higher on the SanDisk cards, for the sa=
me
reason.
>
5. Capacity:
Viking/Simple have/will have PC cards with capacities of up to 160MB in T=
ype
II format. SanDisk's larger cards are Type III format or use Double Densi=
ty
to reach their stated capacities.
>
6. Cost:
SanDisk cards are, on average, 60% more expensive than Simple/Viking card=
s
of the same capacity. This may reflect a =93brand premium=94 that SanDisk
believes it can charge for name recognition. It may also reflect the fact
that all distribution is handled by a Sales Agent, Prima International.
Viking/Simple resell their products directly to distributors such as Shor=
e
Systems, and therefore have a lower cost. Finally, much of the business d=
one
by SanDisk is through OEM sales to Kodak, HP, Psion, etc. Again, there is
little incentive to deal with smaller distributors and hence, higher pric=
es.
>
7. Software support:
Viking/Simple build in support for all major software platforms, includin=
g
DOS, MS Windows 3.x, 95, NT, CE, Apple Mac O/S, IBM O/S2 Warp! and all
digital cameras equipped with a PC Card slot.
>
8. HP Palmtop support:
All Viking/Simple cards will work in all HP200LX palmtops without additio=
nal
driver support, and in the 100LX with a driver similar to that supplied b=
y
Ace Technologies. No additional drivers are required for any of the WinCE
palmtops, including the 620LX.
>
9. Manufacturer contact:
Shore Systems is located within 20 miles of Viking and Simple, as well as
other manufacturers on Southern California's Technology Coast. We are abl=
e
to interface directly with their engineers and technical support
staff to resolve end user problems and develop specialized solutions for
military, government and medical requirements. The U.S. Navy, FBI and
several universities are clients of Shore Systems. They demand the best, =
so
we supply Viking or Simple products.
>
In summary, we believe that products from Simple/Viking represent better
value, technically and qualitatively, than SanDisk=92s products, at a low=
er
cost.
>
Please let me know if you have any other questions. We accept VISA, MC an=
d
AMEX for payment without any sucharge.
>
Bernie Torbik
Shore Systems Ltd.
28 Prospect Avenue
Belmont Shore, CA 90803-3017
562.433.3987 Voice
562.439.3678 FAX

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 15:35:49 -0800
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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: JAM versus Stacker

Don't know about stacker but jam includes a seperate compression
utility that recompresses the jam volume. I used to run it periodically
and got 1.9:1 compression on mixed file types.

On 1998-04-30 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Greetings,
   >I installed JAM to evaluate on my 200lx and downloaded a 75 meg
   >database to a 64meg flashcard.  This DB is strictly text fields with
   >little in terms of spaces, but I only got 1.2 : 1 compression out of
   >this.  The virtual drive shows 150meg of space total, but my DB only
   >got squeezed down to about 58meg.  I anticipate the DB growing soon
   >beyond my flashcard capabilities at this rate.
   >I installed JAM with default options, which should have yielded
   >max compression.
   >I have Stacker from my old PC days and am wondering if I can see
   >more compression by using it versus JAM.  Anyone have experience
   >comparing the two??
   >tnx,

           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

Love and scandal are the best sweeteners of tea.

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Registered

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 22:24:22 +0200
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              BOUREK <bourek@MED.MUNI.CZ>
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From:         BOUREK <bourek@MED.MUNI.CZ>
Subject:      Re: askSam comparison
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RE: askSam

summary: the as.exe file of askSam ver. 5.0 is 234kb, optional help 280kb,
used to run smoothly on a 200lx, now used on double speed 200LX with 6MB RAM
really quickly. Largest file I have now loaded is about 1MB, but no reason
why this should be a limit. Has a record mode, document mode and free mode.
You can use about 50 commands (DOS version) to write very flexible programs
to manage your stored information. Not only good for storing data, can be
used as a freeform database (fields are defined contextually as "after spec.
word" "vicinity of spec. word" and can be manipulated in many ways like if
it was a structured database. The .ask format of files uses compression, so
keeps stored information much smaller than .txt equivalents. Allows
encryption. Will gladly answer individual questions mailed to me. Have no
connection with the software company. More information can be found
(inclusive a free demo version limited to 100 records per file) at
www.asksam.com

I am sorry that I cannot compare askSam with other products. I have been
using askSam since ver. 4.01 for DOS (year 1988) which I discovered when
working in Tunisia. Now I use both askSam for DOS version 5.0 (most of the
time) and version 2.0 for Windows. I have used askSam for all patient data
handling. I use askSam for educational purposes, knowledge acquisition,
storage and presentation. When I studied for my Board exams, I used askSam
for note-taking and the gynecology file keeps growing and my students use it
as a hyper-book. AskSam batch file possibilities can keep the amount of data
small. askSam cares for my personal documents, letters, laboratory forms and
protocols, MEDLINE, CCOD and WWW document archiving and searching. I have a
file called all.ask, where I put everything I would have on loose bits of
paper (loan of a bok etc.). From time to time I search on "loan" to find
what I thought was lost forever.
Medical data is almost impossible to structure into any standard form
database. askSam lets you grab knowledge as it comes, defining fields on the
run. It only pushes you to make intelligent queries when you are trying to
extract or analyze the captured data. The surest way to loose unexpected and
interesting information (eg. the delivery of septuplets) is the lack of a
field for this event in a traditional database. Saving this information in a
free text field does not usually allow for boolean searches in a standard
database. In this respect you cannot beat askSam. Nothing I have come across
so far lets you search for "prostaglandins" that can be concealed in medical
text as PgF2 PgE2 prostaglandins by a search query prosta* {or} PG* {not}
prostat*  {not} pg. (to skip documents  dealing with prostate or pages). You
can export or import almost everything to and from askSam. The only thing
you cannot do in the DOS version is text formatting (character types,
underlined etc.). Sorry for the length of the text posted.

Thanks to all people on this fine list for everyday influx of valuable
information about the indispensable HP 200LX !!

Have all a lovely day
Bourek Ales {:>

Bulharska 33, 612 00 Brno, Czech Republic, Europe
Email: bourek@med.muni.cz
URL: http://www.med.muni.cz/~bourek



> I have seen several small
>threads discussed on it, and I would like to hear the well balanced
opinnions
>that are voiced here on a regular basis.
>
>The programs I am interested in are Agenda, InfoSelect, and AskSAM. If
anyone
>out ther has experience with one or more of these programs, I would
appreciate
>hearing about it. I currently own Agenda, and I am considering purchasing
one
>of the others as well. I am particularly interrested in their functionality
on
>the HPLX.
>
>Thanks for any input I receive on this!
>
>Brian
>

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Subject:      environment space

Does someone know a simple way to figure out how much "environment space"
is active in on'es HP DOS system?

KBUF128.sys from keystuff will increase this to 128 but how does one find
out what is actually present.  I believe some of my PNS200 macros are not
working because they cannot stuff the full paths into the environment
space available to them.

Thanks.

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On Tue, 12 May 1998, Jeff Malka wrote:

> Does someone know a simple way to figure out how much "environment space"
> is active in on'es HP DOS system?
>
> KBUF128.sys from keystuff will increase this to 128 but how does one find
> out what is actually present.  I believe some of my PNS200 macros are not
> working because they cannot stuff the full paths into the environment
> space available to them.

I have the following line in my CONFIG.SYS:

SHELL=D:\DOS\COMMAND.COM /P D:\DOS /E:1024

the /p makes it permanent, and the /e:1024 sets 1024 bytes of environment
space up.  I believe the default is 256 or 512 bytes.  1024 bytes has been
sufficient for me so far...

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Subject:      Re: environment space

> Does someone know a simple way to figure out how much "environment space"
> is active in on'es HP DOS system?
>
> KBUF128.sys from keystuff will increase this to 128 but how does one find
> out what is actually present.  I believe some of my PNS200 macros are not
> working because they cannot stuff the full paths into the environment
> space available to them.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
> -----------------------------------------------------------

You are mixing environment space with keyboard buffer space. If your
macros are not working it may be keyboard buffer space, which on
every standard rc since the original has been 15 bytes. You can
easily test it, start a task that doesn't take input and while it is
running input keypresses and count. When you hear a beep the keyboard
buffer is full. Also, after the previous command completes you will
see what filled the buffer and be able to count the number of keys
that made it, I would suggest starting at "A" and pressing the keys
in alphabetical order.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 16:37:24 -0700
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Folks,

Due to stupidity on my part I ended up replacing both the regular batteies
and the backup battery at the same time.

So the ram disk is now in mint condition.  No problem I saved my data
files.

But now I have very touchy keys. I'll tap any key and get two or three
keypresses.

Say I'm typing
dir a:\temp1
I'll get
diirr aa:\\\tttemmmpp111
If I'm very carefull this won't happen. So there must be a setting
somewhere to make the keys less touchy. But where?

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 20:13:43 -0600
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> From:          Chris Hoover <choover@IDEATANK.COM>
>
> I also have a little experience with WWW/LX, Goin' Postal, PNR and Nettamer.
>
> I then used PNR for a bit.  Since it uses ZipNews packets, I had to go
> through some gyrations to get the mail of the server and into the
> palmtop.  Set up several scripts to automate much of the process...

Since you like PNR, and only need mail and newsgroup access, you spent
your $89 too soon.  LXTCP (which uses PNR as reader) is FREE.

--
Tom Hoover N5NTM <thoover@pobox.com> - http://pobox.com/~thoover
    - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
     ------- finger thoover@pobox.com for PGP key --------

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 08:44:06 -0800
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              Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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Subject:      Re: GP version 2.xx

On 05-12 09:22am,  Steve wrote :

> I'm finding that GP just barely fits under SysMan, especially version
> 2.XX.  It appears to have just a little extra ram left at it's most
> memory-hungry phase when using |300 after the path.
>

Is it possible to have some sought of setup option to not laod certain
features when you start GP, hopes to trim it smaller in size to fit in
Sysmgr. I am using PE in GP, if you need |300 then it probably would
not work under sysmgr for me, but to quit to DOS.

Looking forward to your GP version 2.xx.

Cheers.


Chin Jien Hung                        o__
jhchin@pacific.net.sg                _.>/)_
jienhung@singnet.com.sg             (_) \(_)

This message was send from a HP 700LX Palmtop with NOKIA cellular phone.
Small, mobile and extremely efficient :-D
Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v1.06beta) REGISTERED

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 21:59:21 -0700
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Darren Frick wrote:

> Hey, guys...
>
> Why does the 200lx run faster when getting poer from the adaptor? I am sure
> this is happening. Games like Solitaire at the end with the bouncy cards and
> Dangerous Dave run noticably faster. I wonder if this is done purposely in
> code by HP to conserve power. If so, can this "feature" be bypassed? I
> already run Turbo, so it must be something else.
>
> Thanks, Darren

Where did you find a version of Solitaire to run on the HP?

David

>

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 21:59:33 -0600
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I have sent the config files to those who requested them.  If anyone else
is interested, you may DL them from the FTP link on my web site.

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 12:26:32 +0930
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              rwhitby@ASC.SPS.MOT.COM
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.SPS.MOT.COM>
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              Nettamer)
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Neil Tungate writes:
> BTW, is it possible for you to drop me a copy of the batch files you use to
> hook the LXTCP stuff together? I really don't have much spare time to work
> it all out at the moment, and a kick start like that would really help.

I've copied this to the rest of list to help anyone else who is
 trying to set up LXTCP for email, news, telnet, ftp, ping, rexec, lpr, etc.

I put all executables in c:\bin (dialup.bat, lxstat.com, cicfake.com,
pppd.exe, chat.exe, lxpop.exe, lxnntp.exe, pnrti.exe, termin.com,
mskermit.exe, lxftp.exe, ping.exe, rexec.exe, lpr.exe, etc.).

I put the following in c:\bin\dialup.bat:

        @echo off
        set saved=%prompt%
        set prompt=PPP $p$g
        lxstat V 0
        cicfake
        :RETRY
        if exist ip-up.bat del ip-up.bat
        pppd file c:\_dat\pppd.cfg
        if not exist ip-up.bat pause
        if not exist ip-up.bat goto RETRY
        if exist ip-up.bat del ip-up.bat
        set wattcp.cfg=c:\_dat
        lxpop
        lxnntp
        pnrti
        d:\dos\command.com
        termin 0x68
        cicfake -r
        set prompt=%saved%

I put something like the following in c:\_dat\pppd.cfg:

        com2
        14400
        crtscts
        asyncmap 0
        pktvec 0x68
        connect "chat -f c:\\_dat\\chat.cfg"
        namsrv AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD

I put something like the following in c:\_dat\chat.cfg:

        ABORT ERROR ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT 'NO ANSWER'
        TIMEOUT         2
        ''              ATZ
        OK              AT&FX3
        TIMEOUT         60
        OK              \c
        ECHO            ON
        ''              ATDT5551212
        CONNECT         ''
        "Username: "    username
        "Password: "    \c
        ECHO            OFF
        TERMINAL        ON
        ''

I put something like the following in c:\_dat\wattcp.cfg:

        # General configuration

        my_ip=bootp
        domainslist=foo.com

        # Protocol configuration

        pop.server=pophost
        smtp.server=mailhost
        nntp.server=newshost

        ftp.proxy=ftpgate.foo.com
        http.proxy=wwwgate.foo.com

        pop.username=username
        # pop.password=password

        # Application configuration

        lxpop.spooldir=c:\nws\spool
        lxpop.minfree=1024
        lxpop.maxlines=1024
        lxpop.maxbytes=65536

        lxnntp.spooldir=c:\nws\spool
        lxnntp.minfree=1024
        lxnntp.maxlines=1024

I add the following lines to c:\bin\mskermit.ini:

        set tcp address BOOTP
        set tcp domain foo.com

I put something like the following in c:\_dat\pnr.cfg:

        PNR
        user=username
        host=foo.com
        name=Your Name
        folder=c:\nws\folder
        spool=c:\nws\spool
        prefix = '> '
        compress = 0
        nogrpsort = 1
        nomailsort = 1
        nonewssort = 1

Hope this helps - if anyone writes this into a set of setup
instructions or a web page, then I'd be happy to include it in the
distribution and acknowledge their help.

-- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation --
-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, <GMT+9:30> --
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Chris Lott wrote:

> Anyway, there's what I learned.  I'll probably stick to HTMLSTRIP for
> my serious work, and carry H2T on the palmtop for casual reading.
> And I'll use LYNX itself when in UNIX, now that I know how to use it
> "offline" like this.
>
> Thanks for all the help.
>
> -Chris Lott

Where did you find H2T and HTMLSTRIP?

David

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> Is it possible to have some sought of setup option to not laod certain
> features when you start GP, hopes to trim it smaller in size to fit in
> Sysmgr. I am using PE in GP, if you need |300 then it probably would
> not work under sysmgr for me, but to quit to DOS.

Unfortunatly I can't use overlays because it would make it incompatible
with the compression program I use on it (the EXE packs down about
60% of its raw compiled size).  It hasn't really grown *that* much, but
enough.  Have you looked into using MAXDOS?

>
> Looking forward to your GP version 2.xx.

I just emailed it to Jeff Johns tonight, so he'll get a chance to break
it soon.  Sorry I haven't added the 700LX to the screens, I've looked
at adding 700LX and 1000CX but there's not that much screen room and
those two are very rare items.  I've toyed with changing it to "DOS
HP Palmtops", but that includes the 95LX which I don't handle.  I
wish HP hadn't played games with the product numbers :-(

"Goin' Postal - A mailer for HP Palmtops (except the 95LX, 300LX,
320LX, 360LX and other ones higher (not counting the 700LX and 1000CX))"

How's that for a title? :-)

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 14:26:12 -0700
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Subject:      Re: High Capacity PC Cards and HP Palmtops

Hey Bernie,

What about support on HP 300-400 Omnibooks? Do you know of any driver
that will make Viking/Simple cards work on them? I have one card and am
thinking of getting another, but I would like it to work on my 430 and my
wife's 425 Omnibook too. If not, do you know what Brands will work in the
larger than 20meg cards?

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)

On Tue, 12 May 1998 12:07:21 -0700 "Bernard A. Torbik"
<btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET> writes:

>8. HP Palmtop support:
>All Viking/Simple cards will work in all HP200LX palmtops without
additional
>driver support, and in the 100LX with a driver similar to that supplied
by
>Ace Technologies. No additional drivers are required for any of the
>WinCE
>palmtops, including the 620LX.
>>
>Bernie Torbik
>Shore Systems Ltd.
>28 Prospect Avenue
>Belmont Shore, CA 90803-3017
>562.433.3987 Voice
>562.439.3678 FAX

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              Cnbmis <Cnbmis@AOL.COM>
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I was wondering if anyone still had the notes file that came installed on the
C: drive with a new 200?  This file does *NOT* exist on D:, and I recall it
contained some information that I wanted to refer to again.  Of course, before
I knew it, my evil twin decided to delete the file.  If anyone has the text or
may have a link to same, and would share, it would be greatly appreciated...

thx,
chris nelson

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 21:23:51 -0700
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              RB <bueker@SONOMA.EDU>
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well i'm sold. i'm buying one of your cards next time i buy one, which
will be sometime in the fall. very effective argument. tell your boss i
said to give you a raise; no, better not, we don't want the card's price
to go up. ;) thanks for the info, i was totally swayed by it.

r bueker

Bernard A. Torbik wrote:
>
> The following information is submitted in response to questions Shore
> Systems has received concerning the large (>48MB) flash cards

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 21:42:32 -0700
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Hi, David:
>
>What about support on HP 300-400 Omnibooks? Do you know >of any driver that
will make Viking/Simple cards work on >them?
>
I am quite confident that the OB300 will recognize any of the Simple
Technologies cards as they are 3.3/5.0 volt. The OB300 recognizes 5.0volt
cards. I had a 20MB SanDisk card that worked well in my OB425, so I don't
see why they wouldn't wor. FWIW, I'll test the 48, 96 and 160MB cards in a
friend's 300.
>
>Are you aware of any way to cause an HP Omnibook 300 to >recognize your
flash cards?
>
Both the OB300LX and 425 run DOS 5.0 and a version of Card and Socket
Services. I see no reason why the Simple or Kingston cards won't work.
However, I'll let you know in a couple days after I've tested all of the
cards.
>
>I have one card and am thinking of getting another, but >I would like it to
work on my 430 and my wife's 425 >Omnibook too. If not, do you know what
Brands will work >in the larger than 20meg cards?
>
Simple, Viking and Kingston actually manufacture their own cards and I can
say with some confidence that their cards will work. Most other mfrs rebadge
cards from Kingmax or SanDisk, so I really can't comment.
>
Bernie Torbik
Shore Systems Ltd.
Belmont Shore, CA 90803-3017
562.433.3987 Voice
562.439.3678 FAX

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Thanks. Since "I'm the boss", a card purchase will suffice nicely. Thanks
for the compliments.

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Sent: 12 May, 1998 21:24
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: High Capacity PC Cards and HP Palmtops


well i'm sold. i'm buying one of your cards next time i buy one, which
will be sometime in the fall. very effective argument. tell your boss i
said to give you a raise; no, better not, we don't want the card's price
to go up. ;) thanks for the info, i was totally swayed by it.

r bueker

Bernard A. Torbik wrote:
>
> The following information is submitted in response to questions Shore
> Systems has received concerning the large (>48MB) flash cards

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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 23:46:06 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Tony D. Guzewicz" <tddg@EARTHLINK.NET>
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From:         "Tony D. Guzewicz" <tddg@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: LXTCP config files
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Tom
<BR>Is there a problem with your ftp site? I've trying to get into it 5
times to dl the lxtcp files but each time it just stalled and I&nbsp; had
to keep exiting Netscape.
<BR>Thanks
<BR>Tony Guzewicz

<P>Tom Hoover wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>I have sent the config files to those who requested
them.&nbsp; If anyone else
<BR>is interested, you may DL them from the FTP link on my web site.

<P>--
<BR>Tom Hoover N5NTM &lt;thoover@pobox.com> - <A HREF="http://pobox.com/~thoover">http://pobox.com/~thoover</A>
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above
URL -
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ------- finger thoover@pobox.com for PGP key
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Date:         Tue, 12 May 1998 21:54:53 -0700
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              RB <bueker@SONOMA.EDU>
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Subject:      A Virtual Greeting
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   <META NAME="keywords" CONTENT="humor, wedgie, virtual flowers, virtual hug, virtual wedgie, gag, greeting, virtual greeting, virtual card, laugh">
   <TITLE>A Virtual Greeting</TITLE>
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<CENTER><B><FONT FACE="Arial Rounded MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#009900"><FONT SIZE=+4>Your
Virtual Greeting Awaits</FONT></FONT></FONT></B></CENTER>

<CENTER><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold"><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT SIZE=+2>You
don't see the person sneaking up behind you.</FONT></FONT></FONT></CENTER>

<CENTER><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold"><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT SIZE=+2>You
are unaware of what is about to happen.....If only you knew what was about
to happen.....If only you knew.</FONT></FONT></FONT></CENTER>

<CENTER><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold"><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT SIZE=+2>Closer
and closer they come. You drop something, and crouch down to pick it up.....If
only you knew. They choose this time to strike. Quickly, they rush to your
back, grab the top of your underwear,&nbsp; and pull. They pull hard.</FONT></FONT></FONT></CENTER>

<CENTER><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold"><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT SIZE=+2>You
have been wedgied.</FONT></FONT></FONT></CENTER>

<CENTER><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT SIZE=+2><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold">You
either laugh, or cringe with pain. If only you knew...</FONT>.</FONT></FONT></CENTER>
&nbsp;
<CENTER><IMG SRC="wedgie2.jpg" HEIGHT=240 WIDTH=283></CENTER>

<CENTER><FONT SIZE=-1>Image is Copyrighted to <A HREF="mailto:d-farley@tezcat.com">David
Farley</A></FONT></CENTER>

<CENTER><FONT SIZE=-1><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/Dave/drfun.html">http://sunsite.unc.edu/Dave/drfun.html</A></FONT></CENTER>

<CENTER><FONT SIZE=+1>Mr Potato Head being Wedgied by Mr Leek</FONT></CENTER>

<CENTER><B><FONT FACE="Arial Rounded MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT SIZE=+3>You
have just received a virtual wedgie!</FONT></FONT></FONT></B></CENTER>

<CENTER><B><FONT FACE="Arial Rounded MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT SIZE=+3>That
has got to sting...</FONT></FONT></FONT></B></CENTER>

<CENTER><FONT FACE="Arial Rounded MT Bold">&nbsp;</FONT></CENTER>

<CENTER><FONT FACE="Garamond">&nbsp;</FONT></CENTER>
&nbsp;
<BR><B><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold"><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+1>Aren't
you tired of receiving all those "virtual flowers" and "virtual hugs"?
Well, here's your chance to do some thing about it! Forward the email or
ICQ message that brought you here to all of your closest friends (or for
that matter) your enemies as well, and share with them this personal online
greeting.</FONT></FONT></FONT></B>

<P><B><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold"><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+1>We
started this greeting page on 7th March 1998 with a goal of getting to
100,000 wedgies by 1st June, 1998, but, as you can see, we have been inundated
with hits. A more suitable goal now is 1,000,000....We think we can do
it....We need your help, so SEND THOSE WEDGIES!!!</FONT></FONT></FONT></B><B><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold"><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+1></FONT></FONT></FONT></B>

<P><B><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold"><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+1>We
are a bit behind the rate we need to get to 1,000,000, so PLEASE send wedgies
to anyone and everyone you possibly can. Send them through email, through
ICQ, put links on your homepages, mention in any newsletters that you publish....anything
at all!!!</FONT></FONT></FONT></B>

<P>&nbsp;
<HR WIDTH="60%">
<CENTER><IMG SRC="../../cgi-bin/Count.cgi?md=7&dd=C&df=abusch2" NOSAVE HEIGHT=32 WIDTH=119 ALIGN=ABSCENTER><FONT COLOR="#000099">
<FONT SIZE=+2>wedgies have been inflicted so far!!</FONT></FONT></CENTER>

<CENTER>
<HR WIDTH="60%"></CENTER>

<CENTER>&nbsp;<FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+2>Problems? Check out our
"<A HREF="faq.htm">Frequently Asked Wedgie Questions</A>"!</FONT></FONT></CENTER>

<CENTER><FONT COLOR="#000099">Please read this page before emailing us,
as the majority of email we get can be answered by</FONT></CENTER>

<CENTER><FONT COLOR="#000099">going to the FAQ page first.</FONT></CENTER>

<CENTER>
<HR WIDTH="60%"></CENTER>

<CENTER><FONT COLOR="#CC0000"><FONT SIZE=+2><A HREF="http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~abusch/chat.html">&nbsp;TRY
THE JAVA CHATROOM!</A></FONT></FONT></CENTER>

<CENTER>
<HR WIDTH="50%"></CENTER>

<CENTER><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+2>Still have a question or comment?
Or even better, any ideas for future greetings that we can provide?</FONT></FONT></CENTER>

<CENTER><A HREF="mailto:wed100000@hotmail.com"><IMG SRC="emailus.gif" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=48 WIDTH=152></A></CENTER>

<CENTER><B><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+2><A HREF="mailto:wed100000@hotmail.com">wed100000@hotmail.com</A></FONT></FONT></B></CENTER>

<CENTER><B><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+2><A HREF="mailto:wed100000@hotmail.com"></A></FONT></FONT></B></CENTER>

<CENTER><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+1>Provide us with a VALID email
address, and we can reply. We don't have time to alter all the email addresses
that aren't valid.</FONT></FONT></CENTER>
&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;
<CENTER><A HREF="http://Mercury.GuestWorld.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=WedgiesOnline">Sign
My Guestbook</A>&nbsp;<A HREF="http://www.GuestWorld.com/"><IMG SRC="GuestWorldbutton.gif" ALT="Guestbook by GuestWorld" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=31 WIDTH=88></A>
<A HREF="http://Mercury.GuestWorld.com/wgb/wgbview.dbm?owner=WedgiesOnline">View
My Guestbook</A></CENTER>
<!---end of code--->
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;
<CENTER><A HREF="http://www.surf.to/enlightenmentzone"><IMG SRC="enlightment.gif" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=134 WIDTH=244></A>&nbsp;<A HREF="http://www.amused.com"><IMG SRC="featured2.gif" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=110 WIDTH=89></A>&nbsp;<A HREF="http://www.setoff.com"><IMG SRC="hsethumo.gif" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=73 WIDTH=168 ALIGN=ABSCENTER></A></CENTER>

<CENTER>&nbsp;<B> Also mentioned in the <A HREF="http://www.press.co.nz">Christchurch
Press</A> on 21 April 1998</B></CENTER>

<CENTER>&nbsp;</CENTER>

<CENTER>&nbsp;</CENTER>
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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 14:34:24 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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From:         Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
Subject:      Re: A Virtual Greeting
Comments: To: RB <bueker@SONOMA.EDU>
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Too much virtual stuffs below, that I can't read it in my plain DOS email.
Please save the bandwidth here.


At 09:54 PM 5/12/98 -0700, RB wrote:
>http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~abusch/greeting/Content-Type: text/html;
charset=us-ascii
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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>        eeting/"
>
><HTML>
><HEAD>
>   <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
>   <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="Mozilla/4.05 en (Win95; I) Netscape">
>   <META NAME="description" CONTENT="Send a friend a Virtual Wedgie!!">
>   <META NAME="keywords" CONTENT="humor, wedgie, virtual flowers, virtual
hug, virtual wedgie, gag, greeting, virtual greeting, virtual card, laugh">
>   <TITLE>A Virtual Greeting</TITLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY TEXT="#000000" BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF" LINK="#3333FF" VLINK="#3333FF"
ALINK="#3333FF" BACKGROUND="rain.gif">
>
><CENTER><B><FONT FACE="Arial Rounded MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#009900"><FONT
SIZE=+4>Your
>Virtual Greeting Awaits</FONT></FONT></FONT></B></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold"><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT SIZE=+2>You
>don't see the person sneaking up behind you.</FONT></FONT></FONT></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold"><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT SIZE=+2>You
>are unaware of what is about to happen.....If only you knew what was about
>to happen.....If only you knew.</FONT></FONT></FONT></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold"><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT SIZE=+2>Closer
>and closer they come. You drop something, and crouch down to pick it up.....If
>only you knew. They choose this time to strike. Quickly, they rush to your
>back, grab the top of your underwear,&nbsp; and pull. They pull
hard.</FONT></FONT></FONT></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold"><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT SIZE=+2>You
>have been wedgied.</FONT></FONT></FONT></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT SIZE=+2><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold">You
>either laugh, or cringe with pain. If only you
knew...</FONT>.</FONT></FONT></CENTER>
>&nbsp;
><CENTER><IMG SRC="wedgie2.jpg" HEIGHT=240 WIDTH=283></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><FONT SIZE=-1>Image is Copyrighted to <A
HREF="mailto:d-farley@tezcat.com">David
>Farley</A></FONT></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><FONT SIZE=-1><A
HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/Dave/drfun.html">http://sunsite.unc.edu/Dave/dr
fun.html</A></FONT></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><FONT SIZE=+1>Mr Potato Head being Wedgied by Mr Leek</FONT></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><B><FONT FACE="Arial Rounded MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT
SIZE=+3>You
>have just received a virtual wedgie!</FONT></FONT></FONT></B></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><B><FONT FACE="Arial Rounded MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT
SIZE=+3>That
>has got to sting...</FONT></FONT></FONT></B></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><FONT FACE="Arial Rounded MT Bold">&nbsp;</FONT></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><FONT FACE="Garamond">&nbsp;</FONT></CENTER>
>&nbsp;
><BR><B><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold"><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+1>Aren't
>you tired of receiving all those "virtual flowers" and "virtual hugs"?
>Well, here's your chance to do some thing about it! Forward the email or
>ICQ message that brought you here to all of your closest friends (or for
>that matter) your enemies as well, and share with them this personal online
>greeting.</FONT></FONT></FONT></B>
>
><P><B><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold"><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+1>We
>started this greeting page on 7th March 1998 with a goal of getting to
>100,000 wedgies by 1st June, 1998, but, as you can see, we have been inundated
>with hits. A more suitable goal now is 1,000,000....We think we can do
>it....We need your help, so SEND THOSE
WEDGIES!!!</FONT></FONT></FONT></B><B><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold"><FONT
COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+1></FONT></FONT></FONT></B>
>
><P><B><FONT FACE="Britannic Bold"><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+1>We
>are a bit behind the rate we need to get to 1,000,000, so PLEASE send wedgies
>to anyone and everyone you possibly can. Send them through email, through
>ICQ, put links on your homepages, mention in any newsletters that you
publish....anything
>at all!!!</FONT></FONT></FONT></B>
>
><P>&nbsp;
><HR WIDTH="60%">
><CENTER><IMG SRC="../../cgi-bin/Count.cgi?md=7&dd=C&df=abusch2" NOSAVE
HEIGHT=32 WIDTH=119 ALIGN=ABSCENTER><FONT COLOR="#000099">
><FONT SIZE=+2>wedgies have been inflicted so far!!</FONT></FONT></CENTER>
>
><CENTER>
><HR WIDTH="60%"></CENTER>
>
><CENTER>&nbsp;<FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+2>Problems? Check out our
>"<A HREF="faq.htm">Frequently Asked Wedgie
Questions</A>"!</FONT></FONT></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><FONT COLOR="#000099">Please read this page before emailing us,
>as the majority of email we get can be answered by</FONT></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><FONT COLOR="#000099">going to the FAQ page first.</FONT></CENTER>
>
><CENTER>
><HR WIDTH="60%"></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><FONT COLOR="#CC0000"><FONT SIZE=+2><A
HREF="http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~abusch/chat.html">&nbsp;TRY
>THE JAVA CHATROOM!</A></FONT></FONT></CENTER>
>
><CENTER>
><HR WIDTH="50%"></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+2>Still have a question or comment?
>Or even better, any ideas for future greetings that we can
provide?</FONT></FONT></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><A HREF="mailto:wed100000@hotmail.com"><IMG SRC="emailus.gif"
BORDER=0 HEIGHT=48 WIDTH=152></A></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><B><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+2><A
HREF="mailto:wed100000@hotmail.com">wed100000@hotmail.com</A></FONT></FONT><
/B></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><B><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+2><A
HREF="mailto:wed100000@hotmail.com"></A></FONT></FONT></B></CENTER>
>
><CENTER><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+1>Provide us with a VALID email
>address, and we can reply. We don't have time to alter all the email addresses
>that aren't valid.</FONT></FONT></CENTER>
>&nbsp;
><BR>&nbsp;
><CENTER><A
HREF="http://Mercury.GuestWorld.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=WedgiesOnline">Sign
>My Guestbook</A>&nbsp;<A HREF="http://www.GuestWorld.com/"><IMG
SRC="GuestWorldbutton.gif" ALT="Guestbook by GuestWorld" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=31
WIDTH=88></A>
><A
HREF="http://Mercury.GuestWorld.com/wgb/wgbview.dbm?owner=WedgiesOnline">View
>My Guestbook</A></CENTER>
><!---end of code--->
><BR>&nbsp;
><BR>&nbsp;
><BR>&nbsp;
><CENTER><A HREF="http://www.surf.to/enlightenmentzone"><IMG
SRC="enlightment.gif" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=134 WIDTH=244></A>&nbsp;<A
HREF="http://www.amused.com"><IMG SRC="featured2.gif" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=110
WIDTH=89></A>&nbsp;<A HREF="http://www.setoff.com"><IMG SRC="hsethumo.gif"
BORDER=0 HEIGHT=73 WIDTH=168 ALIGN=ABSCENTER></A></CENTER>
>
><CENTER>&nbsp;<B> Also mentioned in the <A
HREF="http://www.press.co.nz">Christchurch
>Press</A> on 21 April 1998</B></CENTER>
>
><CENTER>&nbsp;</CENTER>
>
><CENTER>&nbsp;</CENTER>
>&nbsp;
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></HTML>
>

Chin Jien Hung                    o__
jhchin@pacific.net.sg            _.>/)_
jienhung@singnet.com.sg         (_) \(_)

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 02:50:06 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Darren Frick <dfrick@SNIP.NET>
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From:         Darren Frick <dfrick@SNIP.NET>
Subject:      Re: sticky keys
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> keypresses.
>
> Say I'm typing
> dir a:\temp1
> I'll get
> diirr aa:\\\tttemmmpp111
> If I'm very carefull this won't happen. So there must be a setting
> somewhere to make the keys less touchy. But where?
>
Funny that this would happen for this reason, but anyway...

I had felt the typematic settings by default were a little sluggish for =
my
tastes, so in the autoexec, I included the line:

mode con rate=3D25 delay=3D2

makes everything nice.
Darren.

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 02:50:12 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Darren Frick <dfrick@SNIP.NET>
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From:         Darren Frick <dfrick@SNIP.NET>
Subject:      Re: Original Notes file
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> I was wondering if anyone still had the notes file that came installed =
on
e
> C: drive with a new 200?  This file does *NOT* exist on D:, and I =
recall i

If you back up your c: drive and take the main and backup batteries out =
and
let the machine sit for a few minutes, then put 'em all back in and =
re-start
the machine, all that cool stuff will be on there.

Darren.

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 00:49:42 -0700
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              RB <bueker@SONOMA.EDU>
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Subject:      it wasn't me!
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my nephew was supposedly doing homework and was sending out greetings to
people on my address book list. he has no explanation. oh geez he's 13
and i was hoping he didn't send something really stupid. my sister said
"big deal" but he apologized to me and i can only say it was
unforeseeable to me. i asked him why and all he sez is he was showing
how he could select my entire address book using the shift key like you
do when using an editor. i still can't believe that ALL of my business
contacts were spammed some goofy gretting. ooohhhhhhhhhhh

whatever

r bueker, considering passwording the bios at this point

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 11:25:11 +0300
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ari Kosonen <ak61563@UTA.FI>
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From:         Ari Kosonen <ak61563@UTA.FI>
Subject:      Re: HTML to TEXT???
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Chris Lott wrote:

> I read recently (last 6 months) about a converter that would strip
> out tags from an HTML file and generate plain text files.

There is quite a few programs for that purpose, many of them can
be found from Yahoo/Computers/WWW/HTML/Converters (go to www.yahoo.com
and follow the path). A good place is also WWW Consortium's site's
Tools section: http://www.w3.org/Tools/html2things.html

One parser I can recommend is Andrew Pam's parser called html2setext,
which converts html to strucured enhanced text. This one was
available as a C source from Serious Cybernetics www.sericyb.com.au,
but I could not find as I just checked.

Few years ago I wrote using, the html2setext, a unix script, mostly
with sed & awk, which converted a whole html structure below defined
level on the www-server in to Gopher and some other format plus
created one huge file containing all the text in the www-structure
following the links to files found in the defined server.

Ari

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 06:17:23 -0400
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Subject:      Re: environment space
Comments: To: malkajef@orthohelp.com

   >Does someone know a simple way to figure out how much "environment
   >space" is active in on'es HP DOS system?
   >KBUF128.sys from keystuff will increase this to 128 but how does
   >one find out what is actually present.  I believe some of my PNS200
   >macros are not working because they cannot stuff the full paths
   >into the environment space available to them.
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 10:17:20 +0000
Message-ID: <19980513101718.AAA9655@12.64.8.25>

If, as Peter Borders suggested, your problem is keyboard buffer space
and not environment space, then the amount of available space may vary
as the buffer is processed and may be difficult to measure.

If you suspect long pathnames may be causing problems with the buffer,
you may want to use the DOS SUBST command to assign a drive letter
to a long pathname. Thus you could refer to a long pathname as simply
drive F:

I believe SUBST is in DOS 6.x. If you have it already, you should. It
replaces the ASSIGN command that comes with the LX and takes up a lot
less memory as a TSR.

If you use SUBST, you may have to do something with the LASTDRIVE
command in config.sys to make sure you have enough valid drive letters.

- Longden

PS - On a related subject, I don't believe there is a DOS method of
ascertaining the amount of true environment space (not keyboard buffer)
in use. I do seem to recall various nickel-dime utilities (probably at
the Simtel site) that will give you that info, tho I doubt that's what
you need in this case.

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 06:17:31 -0400
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Subject:      Re: sticky keys
Comments: cc: pccare@TELEPORT.COM

   >Due to stupidity on my part I ended up replacing both the regular
   >batteies and the backup battery at the same time.
   >So the ram disk is now in mint condition.  No problem I saved my
   >data files.
   >But now I have very touchy keys. I'll tap any key and get two or
   >three keypresses.
   >Say I'm typing
   >dir a:\temp1
   >I'll get
   >diirr aa:\\\tttemmmpp111
   >If I'm very carefull this won't happen. So there must be a setting
   >somewhere to make the keys less touchy. But where?
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 10:17:28 +0000
Message-ID: <19980513101718.AAB9655@12.64.8.25>

I don't recall any such setting so I can't suggest one to set. Can this
be a corruption of the mysterious RAM that no one can touch?

Seems I do recall when I first got my LX, that the order of installing
the batteries was important enough to HP to make a special label and
that it seemed the reverse of what I expected (I think it was AA first
then backup?). Maybe that had something to do with initializing the
"untouchable" RAM? Just a thought. Seems strange otherwise to have any
problems such as you describe after a full reset.

Maybe you should back the batteries out and bleed the system using any
of the methods recently described, and try again?

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 07:01:12 -0400
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There seems to be confusion about the power management of the
palmtop. Some clearing words:

Light sleep and Deep sleep are completely independant features
of the palmtop, linked together by the Timer0 interrupt service
routine.

-Deep sleep-
may be invoked by a software interrupt at any time and switches
off VCC, CPU, DISPLAY, TIMER and HFO.

-Light sleep-
usually enabled by the keyboard interrupt 16h. Switchs only
the CPU off until an interrupt occurs. After interrupt
handling, the CPU clock is switched off again.

The Timer0 interrupt links these two features together:

It sets up a TimeOutCount which is decremented at every Timer0
interrupt (18.2 times per second) only if light sleep is
enabled. If the TimeOutCount reaches 0, deep sleep is entered.

That means, if your unit falls into deep sleep, it is very
likely, that light sleep was enabled before.

However, if a program takes over the keyborad interrupt and/or
the timer0 interrupt (as Windows does) there is no chance for
the palmtop to fall into light and deep sleep.

At the lowest level, light and deep sleep are controlled by
bit0 and bit2 of the system control register (Hornet index 1Eh)

A forthcoming version of LXPRO will allow you to read and write
all palmtop I/O ports and registers. This will reveal some
secrets, the palmtop still holds, like for example, that it is
running about 25% faster in HP95 mode.

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 06:22:02 -0500
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I was bored at school, so I was looking at yahoos alternate os list,
when I came across GEOS. I vagely rember haveing a demo copy of it, but
I dont have it anymore. If someone could give me the ftp site, or e-mail
me the site directly, it would be very helpfull.

Carpman the Great
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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 07:36:14 -0400
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To err is human.  To really foul things up, use a computer.
--
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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 08:04:22 -0400
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              "Johnson, Richard C" <Richard.C.Johnson@TRANSQUEST.COM>
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Subject:      Re: 200lx faster on A/C ?
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For HP palmtop software it's hard to beat the SUPER site at
http://www.palmtop.net/super.html
There are several varieties of solitaire available there courtesy of
Curt Cameron.

> ----------
> From:         David R. BirchSMTP:drbirch@EXECPC.COM
> Sent:         Wednesday, May 13, 1998 12:59 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: 200lx faster on A/C ?
>
> Darren Frick wrote:
>
> > Hey, guys...
> >
> > Why does the 200lx run faster when getting poer from the adaptor? I
> am sure
> > this is happening. Games like Solitaire at the end with the bouncy
> cards and
> > Dangerous Dave run noticably faster. I wonder if this is done
> purposely in
> > code by HP to conserve power. If so, can this "feature" be bypassed?
> I
> > already run Turbo, so it must be something else.
> >
> > Thanks, Darren
>
> Where did you find a version of Solitaire to run on the HP?
>
> David
>
> >
>
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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 08:07:05 -0500
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              "R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>
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> > Okay, I have a related DOS question - no too terribly off topic.
> > How do you continue a command line in DOS COMMAND.COM?  I tried
> > several characters, "-", "\", "/", etc... to no avail.  Seem like
> > I've read this somewhere in the past, but can't lay my hands on it.
>
> I am not sure what you are getting at. A command line in DOS is
> longer than a screen line, 127 characters if I remember correctly. If
> you need more than that I think you are stuck, unless you are using
> something other than command.com as your command interpreter.

Pete:

Sorry that I didn't make myself clear.  Let me give a UNIX example.
If I wanted to, I could type the following command:

   $ ls -alrt *.dat

in this manner:

   $ ls \
   > -alrt \
   > *.dat

In most UNIX shells, when you type the continuation character, the \,
the CLI will not process the command, but rather wait for you to continue
entering it on the next line.  The command is processed when you hit the
final ENTER, not preceeded by a backslash.  (True to other uses of the
backslash, it is like you are ESCAPING the ENTER key you are about to
hit).  Also note that UNIX shells permit you to specify a different
prompt (shown above as a '>' character) for these continuation lines.

So my original question was, is there an equivalent operation in DOS's
command.com CLI that will permit continuation lines?

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 08:12:55 -0500
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In-Reply-To:  <3559294B.7AD14F1E@execpc.com> from "David R. Birch" at May 12,
              98 10:02:04 pm
Content-Type: text

> Where did you find H2T and HTMLSTRIP?

H2T is available at the NETTAMER web page:

http://www.nettamer.net/other.html

HTMLSTRIP is available at this site:

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/2414/

I have received other messages indicating that similar utilities are
available on S.U.P.E.R., but I haven't checked - HTMLSTRIP and the
LYNX option worked so successfully that I just stopped looking.

-Chris

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 08:20:07 -0500
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Quicken
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> I gave up on PQ. I have simeply installed Quicken 5.0(DOS) and run it =
as my
> only Quicken program - I don't run anything on the desktop, except to =
back up
> the data files.
>

Pocket Quicken recognizes file formats through v7 for DOS and
v4 for Windows (according to Intuit), if you want to use both
your palmtop and your desktop.

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 07:09:37 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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I've played with an old version of Derive 1.07 and it looked interesting.

Anyone know the price and availability for a recent version of Derive
that'll run on the 200LX?

I've emailed the dealer (www.derive.com) and haven't received an answer
yet, but one of their authorized dealers, MathWare in IL, says V 4.0 was
$185 and requires a 386.. also that V 3.0 is no longer available.

On the same subject, does anyone know how Derive compares with MathCAD in
terms of working out symbolic equations (factoring, solutions and plots)?

Thanks.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 10:41:12 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Or you can press ctrl-leftshift-on and answer yes to reformat c: drive.

REMEMBER TO BACKUP C: !!!!!!!!!!

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Darren Frick mailto:dfrick@SNIP.NET
                Sent:   Wednesday, May 13, 1998 2:50 AM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        Re: HPLX-L Original Notes file

                > I was wondering if anyone still had the notes file
that came installed on
                e
                > C: drive with a new 200?  This file does *NOT* exist
on D:, and I recall i

                If you back up your c: drive and take the main and
backup batteries out and
                let the machine sit for a few minutes, then put 'em all
back in and re-start
                the machine, all that cool stuff will be on there.

                Darren.

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 16:12:03 +0100
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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Subject:      Re: Outlook 98 and HP200LX Synch utility
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I think you need the SDK from Thaddeus for the spec for the ADB files, I've
not got one but I believe it has some routines etc to do this.

As for Outlook I'd guess that (a) there will be no published format as it
will be proprietary to MS but (b) there may also be an SDK - you may be
well-placed to find that out.

The weakness with most solutions has been the use of a standard export from
Outlook as an initial step.  But as Puma have written for other PDAs and
Outlook, it must be possible.  There is a shareware synchronise for the
Psion 3a/c, it might be possible to persuade the authors of that to advise -
even knowledge of pitfalls would I guess help.   A web search should find
that ?

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 10:24:24 -0500
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              Kevin Calman <codex@EARTHLING.NET>
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Carpman wrote:
>
> I was bored at school, so I was looking at yahoos alternate os list,
> when I came across GEOS. I vagely rember haveing a demo copy of it, but
> I dont have it anymore. If someone could give me the ftp site, or e-mail
> me the site directly, it would be very helpfull.

        See http://www.geoworks.com
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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 10:57:42 -0700
Reply-To:     David Sargeant <davidsa@accessnv.com>
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From:         David Sargeant <istate@COYOTE.ACCESSNV.COM>
Subject:      Re: Outlook 98 and HP200LX Synch utility
Comments: To: "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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On Wed, 13 May 1998, Brown, William wrote:

> I think you need the SDK from Thaddeus for the spec for the ADB files, I've
> not got one but I believe it has some routines etc to do this.

Not necessarily true; the LXREF package on http://comports.com/hplx has
the information, and it can be run on the palmtop or the desktop.

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 11:46:44 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Light Sleep vs. Deep Sleep
Comments: To: "stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE" <stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE>
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Sounds like you really know your stuff when it comes to the 200LX.

Have you heard about the Pretec Falsh card? David Sargeant and I have
one (I think it was David...). It runs up to 300% faster when you hold
down a key. If you don't hold down a key then it is deathly slow. David
said he contacted pretec and they said "it's a power saving
feature..."(lame!).

I was very disappointed when I got this card and couldn't return it
because, technically, it wasn't broken.

Do you have any ideas on how a software solution could be implemented to
alleviate this problem? Can LXPRO help?

Thank you.

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Stefan Peichl mailto:stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE
                Sent:   Wednesday, May 13, 1998 7:01 AM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        HPLX-L Light Sleep vs. Deep Sleep

                There seems to be confusion about the power management
of the
                palmtop. Some clearing words:

                Light sleep and Deep sleep are completely independant
features
                of the palmtop, linked together by the Timer0 interrupt
service
                routine.

                -Deep sleep-
                may be invoked by a software interrupt at any time and
switches
                off VCC, CPU, DISPLAY, TIMER and HFO.

                -Light sleep-
                usually enabled by the keyboard interrupt 16h. Switchs
only
                the CPU off until an interrupt occurs. After interrupt
                handling, the CPU clock is switched off again.

                The Timer0 interrupt links these two features together:

                It sets up a TimeOutCount which is decremented at every
Timer0
                interrupt (18.2 times per second) only if light sleep is
                enabled. If the TimeOutCount reaches 0, deep sleep is
entered.

                That means, if your unit falls into deep sleep, it is
very
                likely, that light sleep was enabled before.

                However, if a program takes over the keyborad interrupt
and/or
                the timer0 interrupt (as Windows does) there is no
chance for
                the palmtop to fall into light and deep sleep.

                At the lowest level, light and deep sleep are controlled
by
                bit0 and bit2 of the system control register (Hornet
index 1Eh)

                A forthcoming version of LXPRO will allow you to read
and write
                all palmtop I/O ports and registers. This will reveal
some
                secrets, the palmtop still holds, like for example, that
it is
                running about 25% faster in HP95 mode.


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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 17:47:49 METDST
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              Charles Stroom <charles@YC.ESTEC.ESA.NL>
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From:         Charles Stroom <charles@YC.ESTEC.ESA.NL>
Subject:      Appointments and LotusNotes

Has anyone tried to make a transfer from the HP200lx's
Appointment book to the LotusNotes Calendar function?

Regards,


Charles Stroom

charles@yc.estec.esa.nl
European Space Technology Centre, Noordwijk, the Netherlands
Phone: (+31)-71-565.4014 Fax: (+31)-71-565.6142

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 10:09:36 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Outlook 98 and HP200LX Synch utility
Comments: To: "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GlaxoWellcome.co.uk>

Thanks. I've actually ordered (from Thaddeus) the $99 "1998 CD InfoBase 2-CD
Deluxe Edition" which includes the x00LX developer's guide; I'm hoping that
it has all the bits contained in the $79 developer's guide by itself. (I
don't need paper manuals, just the bits.)

As for Outlook, yes, I'll look around here for an SDK.

- Joe

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                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Brown, William mailto:wdlb5359@GlaxoWellcome.co.uk
                Sent:   Wednesday, May 13, 1998 8:12 AM
                To:     'HPLX Mailing List'; Joe Barrera
                Subject:        RE: Outlook 98 and HP200LX Synch utility

                I think you need the SDK from Thaddeus for the spec for the
ADB files, I've not got one but I believe it has some routines etc to do
this.

                As for Outlook I'd guess that (a) there will be no published
format as it will be proprietary to MS but (b) there may also be an SDK -
you may be well-placed to find that out.

                The weakness with most solutions has been the use of a
standard export from Outlook as an initial step.  But as Puma have written
for other PDAs and Outlook, it must be possible.  There is a shareware
synchronise for the Psion 3a/c, it might be possible to persuade the authors
of that to advise - even knowledge of pitfalls would I guess help.   A web
search should find that ?





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On Wed, 13 May 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

snip
> So my original question was, is there an equivalent operation in DOS's
> command.com CLI that will permit continuation lines?

Command.com doesn't allow this feature (or if it does I've never seen it),
but there are several other things you can do.

Find an old version of the MKS toolkit (www.mks.com). It includes a Unix
shell for DOS and it no doubt has this feature. You could also get the
free korn shell for DOS from Simtel's Gnuish section. It is rather large
(~200kb), but runs well on the LX, if set up properly.

4DOS, an excellent command.com replacement for Dos might also have this
feature, I'm not sure. (www.jpsoft.com)

There are also a few command-line enhancers (usually TSRs that add
filename completion to the shell) out there that just might do what you
want.

Interestingly enough, if you press <ESC> when on the command line you get
a backslash and the cursor is automatically located on the next line.
Perhaps Microsoft intended to implement this feature, but never got around
to it?


Regards,

Laust
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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 13:52:02 -0400
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From:         Brian Girling <girling@ICA.NET>
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I would like to thank all who have responded to my problem. I checked to
see if the DIP switches on my modem were as below and discovered that
they were.  I finally  to putting the phone line into the second socket
in the modem (although neither are marked that it makes a difference)
and my problems were solved.




Brian Girling
Group Sales
Great Canadian Holidays Inc.
Our Web Site: http://home.ica.net/~girling/ventures/
Email: great_canadian@iname.com
=========================

I am copying here a reply that I received from a list comrade:

> for a change i can send along a tip to a fellow hp listee.
> I have the us robotics sportster modem 14.4  (ext).
> And i have used it successfully with cc:mail on palmtop.com a coupla years ago
> and even carried it with me while travelling before pc
> card modems became more reasonably priced.  Since it was small,
> it really wasn't a problem.  On to your questions.
>
> Qfax - I have seen a lot of complaints about this program on the list so I
> am not absolutely certain it works with the HP, or at least well.  But this
> is just conjecture on my part.
>
> Here are the settings I have used on my sportster.  If you look on the back
> of the modem, the switches are numbered from 1 to 8 (left to right).
>
> 1 and 2 are "up"
> 3 is down
> 4 is up
> 5 is down
> 6 and 7 are up
> 8 is down.
>
> One final note, at the risk of sounded pedantic,
> make sure your com1 is enabled and the comm settings are for 19,2 although
> you may have to slow it down to 9600.  I also used the atx3 command in the
> set up string.
> I'm not at all computer savvy but managed to muddle through this.  Pls let
> me know it this works.
> Tom in Damascus, Syria
> PS I did not copy this to hp list as I have to dial up compuserve in germany
> to get good connections.  I'm sending this via beirut.  Maybe you good post
> this to the list for the benefit, if there is any, to the list.
> Good luck!

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Hi there -

I recently purchased the 4mb memory module from Marcan (MDN) from the ad
located on the S.U.P.E.R. site and I am very pleased.

My 2mb unit is serial number SG4... and therefore did not require any
soldering.  Taking the palmtop apart was a bit complex but the
directions in the documentation were excellent.

In about 1/2 hour I had upgraded to a total of 5mb and all for $64 +
shipping.

I can recommend this upgrade.


Brian Girling
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Hi to the list,

A while ago, I remember someone mentioning @Base database software, or
something like it.  Does anyone recall?  It is a database add-in for 1-2-3,
and I would like to try it out.

Also, has anyone tried using the run-time version of Excel 2.1 on the
palmtop?  I want to try it, but want to know of potential pitfalls - e.g.,
the setver problem (or is it?), etc.

TIA,

Claud

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 15:56:01 -0500
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Subject:      JAM on 8 Meg Doublespeed machine.
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I've 'installed' JAM on my machine, but I'm not really sure if I want to
really move all my files over, resize, move more over, etc..

I have a 8 meg RAM machine, no flash card.  Is it worth it?  I know about
compression ratios for various file types, I have all kinds on the LX, but
would it cause problems, or..?

I've never used a disk compression utility before, so I'm not real sure what
to expect.  I've created a 750k file and moved VR into it as a test and it
yeilded a 39% compression rate in JCHKDSK, which sounds reasonable.

Also, my available ram (filer resident, SMMX open) is shown as 267k.. :( :(  I
have Buddy and a few other small TSRs, going through DOSShell.  Jam is taking
32k of ram, as indicated in the manual.  I use DOSShell to load big stuff, so
low ram in SysMgr really isn't that big of a deal.  Just can't have a bunch of
apps open at once, but I usually don't.

Is there a 'lighter' version of JAM, or is Stacker a better idea on the
Palmtop, or what do you guys suggest?  Thanks!

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 16:02:43 EST
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Subject:      Re: Continuation Lines (was: environment space)

> On Wed, 13 May 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:
>
> snip
> > So my original question was, is there an equivalent operation in DOS's
> > command.com CLI that will permit continuation lines?
>
> Command.com doesn't allow this feature (or if it does I've never seen it),
> but there are several other things you can do.
>
> ....
>
> Interestingly enough, if you press <ESC> when on the command line you get
> a backslash and the cursor is automatically located on the next line.
> Perhaps Microsoft intended to implement this feature, but never got around
> to it?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Laust
> ---

Actually the ESC keypress cancels the line, emptying the line input
buffer. The backslash, carriage return output after that is a hold
over from the days of hardcopy terminals that couldn't backspace
over, or blank out, a line. Remember, DOS is basically a rip off of
CP/M and CP/M was written for terminals, which included the above
mentioned hard copy terminals. Until the ansi.sys device driver was
written DOS couldn't do any type of screen control that didn't exist
in CP/M.

Pete


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Tidewater Community College
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              stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE
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> Have you heard about the Pretec Falsh card? David Sargeant and I have
> one (I think it was David...). It runs up to 300% faster when you hold
> down a key. If you don't hold down a key then it is deathly slow. David
> said he contacted pretec and they said "it's a power saving
> feature..."(lame!).

you could try to disable light and consequently deep sleep, to
see if this fixes your problem. If it works, you have a fast
flash card, and fast dying batteries. There is a simpler way,
to test if light sleep is the problem: Connect your palmtop to
the AC adapter. If the palmtop finds an adapter plugged in,
light and deep sleep is disabled.

To disable light sleep in assembler (the only language I know
by heart), you need just 2 instructions:

MOV AX,4E00h
INT 15h

Regards
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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 21:17:42 +0100
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              Ross Lewis <ross@ESOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Hi :-)

Would the file be created after being hard reset (after fully backing up). ?

Just a thought

Cheers
Ross

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Subject:        Original Notes file

I was wondering if anyone still had the notes file that came installed on the
C: drive with a new 200?  This file does *NOT* exist on D:, and I recall it
contained some information that I wanted to refer to again.  Of course, before
I knew it, my evil twin decided to delete the file.  If anyone has the text or
may have a link to same, and would share, it would be greatly appreciated...

thx,
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On Wed, 13 May 1998, Walter R Francis wrote:

snip
> Is there a 'lighter' version of JAM, or is Stacker a better idea on the
> Palmtop, or what do you guys suggest?  Thanks!
>

I generally find that it isn't worth using Jam/Stacker unless you have a
lot of actual data (ie not .exe files or thelike, but data files) on your
LX. If you have many different programs on your LX then you probably have
many .exe files. They can usually be compressed with PKlite or Diet (on
Simtel or Garbo) which doesn't decrease conventional memory as it is done
on execution time. Actually, Diet can compress data files and stay
resident just like Jam/Stacker. Granted, Diet is more primitive than both
the aforementioned programs, but it may also use less memory and can
possibly be unloaded again. I suggest you download it and look at the
documentation. I haven't had any expirence with it resident, so I cannot
really help you.

Shouldn't Jam and Stacker be able to use expanded memory (EMS)? Providing
you have an EMS driver of course...

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 17:00:13 -0400
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              Ron Rivers <RonRi@BLACKBAUD.COM>
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This is the company where I purchase a copy about a year or more ago.
There is a special version for the HP100/200LX at a much cheaper price.
http://www.netusa.com/pcsoft/library/p_316.htm
Personics
234 Ballardvale Street
Wilmington, MA 01887=20
Phones: Main - (508) 658-0040, Sales - (800) 445-3311, Technical =
Support
- (508) 658-0040, Fax - (508) 988-0105=20

@BASE For Lotus 1-2-3 v2.10=20
Type of Application: Spreadsheet Utility/Add-on=20
Platform: DOS=20
Media: Dual Media (5=BC & 3=BD Diskette)=20
Price: $195.00=20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Claud G. Cameron SMTP:cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 1998 3:06 PM
> Subject:      @Base, run-time Excel 2.1
>=20
> Hi to the list,
>=20
> A while ago, I remember someone mentioning @Base database software, =
or
> something like it.  Does anyone recall?  It is a database add-in for
> 1-2-3,
> and I would like to try it out.
>=20
> Also, has anyone tried using the run-time version of Excel 2.1 on the
> palmtop?  I want to try it, but want to know of potential pitfalls -
> e.g.,
> the setver problem (or is it?), etc.
>=20
> TIA,
>=20
> Claud

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From:         "Tony D. Guzewicz" <tddg@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: @Base, run-time Excel 2.1
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Cluad
I've run Excel 2.1 on a 200lx 4 meg under Windows 3.0 and I have not had any
problems as of yet. If you find out any info about @Base I'd appreciate it too.

TOny Guzewicz

Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> Hi to the list,
>
> A while ago, I remember someone mentioning @Base database software, or
> something like it.  Does anyone recall?  It is a database add-in for 1-2-3,
> and I would like to try it out.
>
> Also, has anyone tried using the run-time version of Excel 2.1 on the
> palmtop?  I want to try it, but want to know of potential pitfalls - e.g.,
> the setver problem (or is it?), etc.
>
> TIA,
>
> Claud
>
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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 21:18:40 GMT
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On Wed, 13 May 1998 12:26:32 +0930, Rod Whitby wrote:

>I put all executables in c:\bin (dialup.bat, lxstat.com, cicfake.com,
>pppd.exe, chat.exe, lxpop.exe, lxnntp.exe, pnrti.exe, termin.com,
>mskermit.exe, lxftp.exe, ping.exe, rexec.exe, lpr.exe, etc.).
>
>I put the following in c:\bin\dialup.bat:

snip useful info

Rod, thanks very much, that will save me a lot of experimentation and =
I'll
have a look at it again today.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 15:08:02 -0700
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              Dan Carrington <dc_grafx@MICROWORKS.NET>
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Consider yourself lucky.  The thing was actually an enforced link to a
web page that dumped you there regardless of your desires.

@&*&$@!@#ing SPAM!!!!!  A good way to download a virus to people!

Dan Carrington

Chin Jien Hung wrote:

> Too much virtual stuffs below, that I can't read it in my plain DOS
> email.
> Please save the bandwidth here.
>

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To really #@%$ things up, requires Windows!

Dan


Jim Krist wrote:

> To err is human.  To really foul things up, use a computer.
> --
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Can somebody supply me with a door for less
than the $20 part kit from HP?

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Date:         Thu, 14 May 1998 10:25:25 +1200
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From:         David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Re: Original Notes file

   >Or you can press ctrl-leftshift-on and answer yes to reformat c:
   >drive.
   >REMEMBER TO BACKUP C: !!!!!!!!!!
   >-----Original Message-----
   >Sent:   Wednesday, May 13, 1998 2:50 AM
   >> I was wondering if anyone still had the notes file
   >that came installed on
   >e
   >> C: drive with a new 200?  This file does *NOT* exist
   >on D:, and I recall i

Gee guys, ever done a dir *.ndb /s on the D: drive? Maybe my
200LX is the only one out there that reports notes.ndb in the
D:\_dat directory...

dir file/filespec /s will search all subdirectories. It's all
in the forward slash s...

HTH
David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Subject:      Re: Continuation Lines (was: environment space)

   >> > Okay, I have a related DOS question - no too terribly off topic.
   >> > How do you continue a command line in DOS COMMAND.COM?  I tried
   >> > several characters, "-", "\", "/", etc... to no avail.  Seem

<Snipppp>
   >So my original question was, is there an equivalent operation in
   >DOS's command.com CLI that will permit continuation lines?

OK guys, here is the good news!

doskey /buffsize=1024 /insert

The switches are optional, I use them to allow easier editing, bu
having doskey work in Insert mode as the default is overstrike.
You can over-ride this by pressing "Insert" but it is only
effective for one command line.

The buffsize is so you can run macros or aliases. These are
Extreemly Cool!

Before I launch into those, the answer to all thos questions
about continuation of command line: Ctrl + T with doskey gets you
an ascii 20 or paragraph sign. You can type something like:

cd \ Ctrl+T dir Ctrl+T pause Ctrl+T cd \_dat Ctrl+T dir *.ndb Ctrl+T
pause Ctrl+T etc, etc, etc...

BTW, the etc's will not work!

You press Ctrl+T, not type it...

One can continue typing past the end of the screen as it will
wrap onto the next line.

Now, macro/aliases!

Way cool concept, they go like this:

doskey .=dir *.
doskey ..=dir *.*
doskey ...=dir /w
doskey aa=a:\
doskey cc=c:\
doskey m=mem /d $b more

You can enter these at the command line, and that is the best way
to debug them, but you can also run them in a batch file when you
have a list you want to use all the time.

Typing doskey /macros will output to screen the macros that you
currently have assigned, and typing doskey /macros > file.bat
will get you a batch file to reload doskey when the machine is
restarted.

To use them, simply type the aliases, "." will give you a listing
of files with no extension and directories. "m" will give you a
mem /d listing, pausing when each screen is full. All the doskey
commands and switches are in any dos 5.0 manual.

I use them to negate the possibility of typos on the little LX
keyboard. I hate having to type cd space, backslash, shift,
minus, dat and so have a doskey d=cd \_dat that means I simply
type d and press enter!

An almost UDF is the fact you can name your doskey macros after
the built-in commands, and dos will execute them first! If you
want the "old" dos version of the command, simply type a space
before it!

I appologize for the huge number of exclamation marks and the
length of this epistle, but I also hope it will be usefull and
inspire people to stretch their usage of this amazing little
machine.

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 18:28:29 -0400
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 On    Wed, 13 May 1998 07:09:37 -0700
   "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>

wrote
>I've played with an old version of Derive 1.07 and it looked interesting.

>Anyone know the price and availability for a recent version of Derive
>that'll run on the 200LX?

Aztek computers
17729 Chatsworth St.
Granada Hills, CA 91344

818 363-7525
www.aztekcomputers.com

On 3 April 1998, I bought a copy of Derive 3.04 from them for $20.  I believe
they had at least 2 others in stock.
The owner was trying to clear it out of inventory, they mainly sell hardware.
It seems to run fine, although slowly on my stock HP200.  It adjusts to the
zoom function on the HP200.

>I've emailed the dealer (www.derive.com) and haven't received an answer
>yet, but one of their authorized dealers, MathWare in IL, says V 4.0 was
>$185 and requires a 386.. also that V 3.0 is no longer available.

>On the same subject, does anyone know how Derive compares with MathCAD in
>terms of working out symbolic equations (factoring, solutions and plots)?

Derive deals with your formulas, line by numbered line.  MathCAD makes the
screen look like handwritten math equations.
Derive requires fewer resources to run. Derive seems to provied much more
control on how the symbolic math is done.  In the past, I've fooled around with
old versions of Derive and MathCad.  In neither case did I have manuals.  For
both programs there is a steep learning curve.

An old review in PC Magazine rates Derive's accuracy quite highly.  I may be
able to find the article.  E-mail, if you want the citation.

Thomas G. Hess
thess@ffic.com
tghess@compuserve.com

"from Beautiful downtown Burbank"




Thanks.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 18:28:51 -0400
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Of course YOU could have saved some bandwidth by NOT quoting
the whole message you were referring to.

Please folks, EDIT the message you are quoting; don't include the whole=
 thing!
Russ

>From:    Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
>To much virtual stuffs below, that I can't read it in my plain DOS ema=
il.
>Please save the bandwidth here.

>>At 09:54 PM 5/12/98 -0700, RB wrote:
>>http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~abusch/greeting/Content-Type: text/html;=

>charset=3Dus-ascii
>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>Content-Base: "http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~abusch/gr
>>        eeting/"
>>
>><HTML>
>><HEAD>
>>   <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
iso-8859-1">
>>   <META NAME=3D"GENERATOR" CONTENT=3D"Mozilla/4.05 en (Win95; I) =
Netscape">
>>   <META NAME=3D"description" CONTENT=3D"Send a friend a Virtual Wedg=
ie!!">
>>   <META NAME=3D"keywords" CONTENT=3D"humor, wedgie, virtual flowers,=
 virtua
...and so on...

=

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 22:31:33 GMT
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From:         Neil Tungate <neil@SKIPPER.DEMON.CO.UK>
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On Tue, 12 May 1998 21:59:33 -0600, Tom Hoover wrote:

>I have sent the config files to those who requested them.  If anyone =
else
>is interested, you may DL them from the FTP link on my web site.

I'm very grateful to both you and Rod for making these config files
available. However, one point has become very obvious - it appears you =
are
both using ISPs which dynamically allocate IP addresses, which means you
can get away with more or less using the sample files from the DOSPPP and
WatTCP archives. There is little info for those of us who have a =
permanent
IP address, and what there is, is almost unreadable in its convolution. =
I'm
lost and not sure I want to continue in the mire.

It's looking more and more likely that Avi is going to get my CC number =
:-)

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 18:34:36 -0400
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              Ian Butler <ianrb@CASPERS.NET>
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From:         Ian Butler <ianrb@CASPERS.NET>
Subject:      Re: A Virtual Greeting
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At 02:34 PM 5/13/98 +0800, you wrote:
>Too much virtual stuffs below, that I can't read it in my plain DOS email.
>Please save the bandwidth here.

<SNIP>

>Chin Jien Hung                    o__
>jhchin@pacific.net.sg            _.>/)_
>jienhung@singnet.com.sg         (_) \(_)

Here I have decided to break a personal vow by saying something completely
off-topic and demeaning to another list member.

Interesting that you decided to include the WHOLE ENTIRE ORIGINAL POST,
totalling 10K according to Eudora.  Interesting that it was included in a
post talking about saving bandwidth.  Thanks and all for the sentiment, but
DON'T DO IT AGAIN.

I'll now return to my little corner of the universe... (sorry Al..)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

"Hell, even 15 years ago software was crappy, arrogant, and slow.  But
diverse.
Now, things are starting to change.  Through a weird paranormal flux, some
people make stuff that WORKS.  You may not have noticed this, but (shh!
don't tell
anyone!) Caldera's stuff (this is trade secret stuff, y'know) -- INSTALLS
CORRECTLY.  YES!  DR-DOS 7.02 runs right the _first time_.  No one that
hasn't
had more than their share of frop knows that someone messed up in QA.  I'll
be
surprised if Caldera doesn't fire them."
        - M'self, "So What if it Runs?"

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 18:36:09 -0400
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>From:    Carpman <ctg@GEOCITIES.COM>
>I was bored at school, so I was looking at yahoos alternate os list,
>when I came across GEOS. I vagely rember haveing a demo copy of it, bu=
t
>I dont have it anymore. If someone could give me the ftp site, or e-ma=
il
>me the site directly, it would be very helpfull.

You can get a free copy of GEOS by down loading the old DOS version of =
the AOL
setup program.
It was based on the GEOS operating system.  You probably get an incompl=
ete set
of the
OS files as AOL only shipped was was needed for their purpose.

Russ
=

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 18:40:20 -0400
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@US.IBM.COM>
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>From:    Charles Stroom <charles@YC.ESTEC.ESA.NL>
>Subject: Appointments and LotusNotes
>Has anyone tried to make a transfer from the HP200lx's
>Appointment book to the LotusNotes Calendar function?

Me too!  If such a tool exists I could definately use it!

Russ
=

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 18:48:52 -0400
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>
>Date:    Tue, 12 May 1998 20:00:11 -0700
>From:    Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
>Subject: Re: GP version 2.xx
>
. . .

>it soon.  Sorry I haven't added the 700LX to the screens, I've looked
>at adding 700LX and 1000CX but there's not that much screen room and
>those two are very rare items.  I've toyed with changing it to "DOS
>HP Palmtops", but that includes the 95LX which I don't handle.  I
>wish HP hadn't played games with the product numbers :-(
>
>"Goin' Postal - A mailer for HP Palmtops (except the 95LX, 300LX,
>320LX, 360LX and other ones higher (not counting the 700LX and
>1000CX))"
>
>How's that for a title? :-)
>
You could try "Goin' Postal - A mailer for the HP 12700*CLX" if I
remember my regexps right. At least un'less'|'til' HP comes out with a
new x86 palmtop. But then that'll probably be out of spec too!

Jon Barrett
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jonzann@altavista.net
jbarrett@rurdev.usda.gov

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At 02:34 PM 5/13/1998 +0800, you wrote:
>Too much virtual stuffs below, that I can't read it in my plain DOS email.
>Please save the bandwidth here.
>
____________________________________________________
ditto - please don't send focused responses to the whole list , including
the entire prior post.  I wasn't happy with the original spam; now I get to
read 800 redundant reponses

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 17:45:38 -0700
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At 06:34 PM 5/13/1998 -0400, Ian Butler wrote:
>At 02:34 PM 5/13/98 +0800, you wrote:
>>Please save the bandwidth here.
________________________________
Likewise, you can respond personally,  rather that to the ENTIRE list.

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For Sale: Back issues of  Palmtop Paper Magazines

I just got back issues of the Palmtop Paper magazine,
but as I had known, I already had had some of them.

$3.25 each + shipping.

*1994 (Volume 3)
  -Bunus Issue #1
  -Number1
  -Number 2
  -Number 3

*1995 (Volume 4)
 -Bonus Issue #1
 -Number 3
 -Number 5

*1996 (Volume5)
  -Bonus Issue #1
  -Number 1
  -Number 4
  -Number 5

*1997 (Volume 6)
 -Number 1
 -Number 3

Please E-mail me if you are interested.

ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 18:53:05 -0700
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              David C Smalley <dsmalley@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: High Capacity PC Cards and HP Palmtops
Comments: To: btorbik@earthlink.net

I am looking forward to your report. I have a Simple Technology 32MB card
(#STI-ATAFL/32) that I have yet to get to work properly in either a 425
or a 430 Omnibook. I have tried all 4 of the card slots. The only one
that I didn't get a request for a driver from was the "C:" slot. When I
inserted it instead of the Type III hard drive and rebooted (it didn't do
anything as I remember, turning the thing off and inserting it and then
turning it on), the Omnibook proceeded to copy all the files that it
wanted on to the card. Afterwards though, it still wouldn't read the
card.

If the newer cards work, or if there is a work-a-round (like the driver
the machine requested), I would love to hear of it.

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)

On Tue, 12 May 1998 21:42:32 -0700 "Bernard A. Torbik"
<btorbik@earthlink.net> writes:

>>What about support on HP 300-400 Omnibooks? Do you know of any driver
that
>>will make Viking/Simple cards work on them?
>>
>I am quite confident that the OB300 will recognize any of the Simple
>Technologies cards as they are 3.3/5.0 volt. The OB300 recognizes
5.0volt
>cards. I had a 20MB SanDisk card that worked well in my OB425, so I
don't
>see why they wouldn't wor. FWIW, I'll test the 48, 96 and 160MB cards in
a
>friend's 300.
>
>Both the OB300LX and 425 run DOS 5.0 and a version of Card and Socket
>Services. I see no reason why the Simple or Kingston cards won't work.
>However, I'll let you know in a couple days after I've tested all of the
>cards.
>
>Simple, Viking and Kingston actually manufacture their own cards and I
can
>say with some confidence that their cards will work. Most other mfrs
rebadge
>cards from Kingmax or SanDisk, so I really can't comment.
>>
>Bernie Torbik
>Shore Systems Ltd.
>Belmont Shore, CA 90803-3017
>562.433.3987 Voice
>562.439.3678 FAX
>
>

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 19:05:53 -0700
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@base is an add-on to 123. Works nicely on the palmtop.

  Avi M. D&A

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> ditto - please don't send focused responses to the whole list , includin=
g
> the entire prior post.  I wasn't happy with the original spam; now I =
get to
> read 800 redundant reponses

Yeah, at least, and then you also send them too, redundantly
to everyone on the list :) - just as this one is...

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Date:         Wed, 13 May 1998 23:59:31 -0700
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Hi, David:
>
FYI, I'll be testing a 32, 48, 96 and 160 in a stock OB300, no special
drivers, etc. The reason I am confident of the results is that the newer
(1995 and later) Sandisk cards work in the 300/425 series, and they are
3.3/5.0 volt cards.
>
The newer Simple cards are 3.3/5.0 volt, as well.
>
The differences between the cards you've cited and the newer Sinple cards
are many. They include voltage, controller, implementation of the PCMCIA
spec, data transfer rate, power consumption and driver support. In short,
the Simple card is many generations removed from them, due to technology and
PCMCIA standards.
>
I'll let you know.
>
Bernie Torbik

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At 06:28 PM 5/13/98 -0400, you wrote:
> On    Wed, 13 May 1998 07:09:37 -0700
>   "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
>
>wrote
>>I've played with an old version of Derive 1.07 and it looked interesting.
>
>>Anyone know the price and availability for a recent version of Derive
>>that'll run on the 200LX?

        I have played with a version of Derive that my school had.  It is 4.05 and
runs just fine on the HP 200LX (2M), although on start up it does indicate
it is running in 16-bit mode.  It isn't the fastest thing in the world, but
I haven't run into any limits on its functionality due to running it on the
HP.  The title screen has the following information that may help you
obtain a copy:

Copyright (C) 1988 through 1996 by
Sofr Warehouse, Inc.
3660 Waialae Avenue, Suite 304
Honolulu, Hawaii, 96816-3236, USA

        There is also a fax number listed (to report distribution of Derive as
shareware or freeware (which it is not)), 909-735-1105.  Hope this helps you.

        Chris Pimlott

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Subject:      Re: Derive Question

   >>Anyone know the price and availability for a recent version of
   >>Derive that'll run on the 200LX?
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 10:29:16 +0000
Message-ID: <19980514102914.AAA29927@12.64.8.16>

   >Aztek computers
   >17729 Chatsworth St.
   >Granada Hills, CA 91344
   >818 363-7525
   >www.aztekcomputers.com
   >On 3 April 1998, I bought a copy of Derive 3.04 from them for $20.
   >I believe they had at least 2 others in stock.
   >The owner was trying to clear it out of inventory, they mainly sell
   >hardware. It seems to run fine, although slowly on my stock HP200.

Thanks for the tip. I'll give 'em a call tomorrow. And to think they're
right on the drive home from work! Now if they only have them in stock...

Thanks also for the input on MathCAD.

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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              Steven English <senglish@AXS.COM.AU>
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I used JAM for about a year & without a doubt it gave me more space.
However, it was not as much as you may expect because many of the
palmtop programs are so small & well constructed they don't compress
very well (I would estimate about 1.3:1. You can create a JAM file with
4K clusters which only takes up about 26K of ram. I have decided to make
do without any compression software because of both the memory & speed
cost you pay. The swapping with Dosshell is also much quicker.

Regards

Steven English

Walter R Francis wrote:
>
> I've 'installed' JAM on my machine, but I'm not really sure if I want to
> really move all my files over, resize, move more over, etc..
>
> I have a 8 meg RAM machine, no flash card.  Is it worth it?  I know about
> compression ratios for various file types, I have all kinds on the LX, but
> would it cause problems, or..?
>
> I've never used a disk compression utility before, so I'm not real sure what
> to expect.  I've created a 750k file and moved VR into it as a test and it
> yeilded a 39% compression rate in JCHKDSK, which sounds reasonable.
>
> Also, my available ram (filer resident, SMMX open) is shown as 267k.. :( :(  I
> have Buddy and a few other small TSRs, going through DOSShell.  Jam is taking
> 32k of ram, as indicated in the manual.  I use DOSShell to load big stuff, so
> low ram in SysMgr really isn't that big of a deal.  Just can't have a bunch of
> apps open at once, but I usually don't.
>
> Is there a 'lighter' version of JAM, or is Stacker a better idea on the
> Palmtop, or what do you guys suggest?  Thanks!

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>    >On 3 April 1998, I bought a copy of Derive 3.04 from them for $20.
>
>    >I believe they had at least 2 others in stock.
>    >The owner was trying to clear it out of inventory, they mainly
> sell
>    >hardware. It seems to run fine, although slowly on my stock HP200.

I run an older version (2.03) of Derive on my HP200 2Meg.  It runs
fine.  Most problems it runs very quickly.  Perhaps you want an older
version if you don't need some of the upgrades (I'm not sure of the
differences among the different versions).  Derive is a terrific
program.  Small, fast, and accurate.  The user interface leaves a little
to be desired and there is no (real) on-line help.  You need the manual
to understand how to use it well.  However, it is great for algebra,
calculus (differential and integral), and a host of other mathematical
applications.

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Date:         Thu, 14 May 1998 14:22:34 +0200
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              "Daniel Kropveld, Amsterdam-NL" <D.KROPVELD@AMC.UVA.NL>
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If there is somebody on this list who uses these camera's, and wants to
connect them with their palmtop, then this page might be interesting:

How to connect your camera:
http://huizen.dds.nl/~kropveld/olympus.html#hplx

Which software is there available (DOS, Windows)
http://huizen.dds.nl/~kropveld/olympus.html#sw

Good luck!
Hartelijke groeten van Daniel Kropveld
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Date:         Thu, 14 May 1998 05:36:21 -0700
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I have been looking for a DAQ for my 100 & 200 LX.
If you come up with something PLEASE let me know.
Steven

Francois Ennesser wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> At work, we are using National Instruments DAQ cards on a PC, and I had to
> perform low level DOS programming to communicate with the card , including some
> register level access. For the ISA card, we don't need any special driver. Do
> you know what the PCMCIA DAQ card would need a driver for, or what the provided
> driver is supposed to do? Because, if the driver is not needed to access the
> PCMCIA card at register level, then I think I would be able to write the
> programs for you, if I have access to the specific documentation for that card.
>
> Regards,
>
>  Francois Ennesser
>  f.ennesser@computer.org
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Date:         Thu, 14 May 1998 07:43:57 -0600
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Logden:

> I've played with an old version of Derive 1.07 and it looked
> interesting.
>
> Anyone know the price and availability for a recent version of
> Derive that'll run on the 200LX?

Well, I have a copy that I've used on my palmtop.  It reports that it
is version 2.01, (c) 1988, 1990 by Soft Warehouse, Inc. out of
Honolulu, Hawaii.

> I've emailed the dealer (www.derive.com) and haven't received an
> answer yet, but one of their authorized dealers, MathWare in IL,
> says V 4.0 was $185 and requires a 386.. also that V 3.0 is no
> longer available.

Do you know if version 3.0 ran on an 8086?

> On the same subject, does anyone know how Derive compares with
> MathCAD in terms of working out symbolic equations (factoring,
> solutions and plots)?

I don't know for sure, but the impression I have from speaking with
other engineers about this is that MathCAD is a more powerful product.
Don't know, personally.

You might be interested to note that Microsoft had an entry into this
genre of symbolic math programs with a package called muMath.  I have
an old copy sitting on my shelf, that I've been meaning to try out on
the palmtop "when I get a round to it".  We actually used muMath at
work many years ago, solving some large sets of equations both
symbolically and later numerically.  Another engineer worked with it -
my only recollection was that the interface was VERY, VERY, VERY
awkward. And this was 1987 when everything was done by command line.

-Chris Lott

p.s.  Hmmmmm.... I just pulled out the muMath manual, and perused it.
It seems to have been written by the same company as Derive, The Soft
Warehouse of Honolulu, by David Stoutemyer and Albert Rich.  It would
appear that it was sold in a variety of flavors to run on all sorts of
microprocessors of its day, 8080 CPM, Apples, and MS-DOS.  It's name,
muMath-83, tell me that it is of 1983 vintage.  Why Microsoft's name
is on the document is a mystery, unless they bought the rights to
distribute/sell the MS-DOS version of the program.

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Date:         Thu, 14 May 1998 06:11:09 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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>
> > I've emailed the dealer (www.derive.com) and haven't received an
> > answer yet, but one of their authorized dealers, MathWare in IL,
> > says V 4.0 was $185 and requires a 386.. also that V 3.0 is no
> > longer available.
>
> Do you know if version 3.0 ran on an 8086?

As an update, the maker (Soft Warehouse)  did notify me yesterday and
corrected the dealer's remarks... all versions up to and including 4.x
will work on the 200LX. The 4.x (and maybe 3.x) versions autodetects and
switches to 16 or 32 bit mode depending on the processor.

Several posters have told me they're already running 3.x on their 200LX.
I'm trying to run down a discounted copy myself, since my needs don't
justify the $185 for the newest version and I can do without the added XMS
code anyway, tho I'm sure it's worth every penny to those of you who
crunch symbolic math for a living.

> I don't know for sure, but the impression I have from speaking with
> other engineers about this is that MathCAD is a more powerful product.

The mathematicians at where I work know and use MathCAD, but had no
experience and hence no opinion on Derive.

> p.s.  Hmmmmm.... I just pulled out the muMath manual, and perused it.
> It seems to have been written by the same company as Derive, The Soft
> Warehouse of Honolulu, by David Stoutemyer and Albert Rich.

I checked the Derive website and it seemed to indicate that Derive was
formerly called muMath...its predecessor product.

Thanks for all the info.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 14 May 1998 23:11:30 +1000
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Message-ID: <355AEB3B.144A@21century.com.au>
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 23:01:47 +1000
From: Alex Baker <abaker@21century.com.au>
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Does anybody know were I can get a newer version than VR1.1?

I particularly need a text search facility.

Regards

Alex Baker
Melbourne Australia

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Date:         Thu, 14 May 1998 06:14:46 -0700
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Tony,
How are you comming on the Tagalog to English dicitionary on to Foxpro?
My mother in law is visiting and it would come in handy.
Steven Coles

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Date:         Thu, 14 May 1998 09:40:29 -0400
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like new,55.00 plus shipping
thanks
mike

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Longden C. Loo wrote:

> > I don't know for sure, but the impression I have from speaking with
> > other engineers about this is that MathCAD is a more powerful
> product.
>
> The mathematicians at where I work know and use MathCAD, but had no
> experience and hence no opinion on Derive.
>

It may be, but I've four MathCAD difficult to get used to.  It's a
combined math tool and word processor and...  Fine, if you want all
these in one package.  My needs for Derive are more limited, and it's
easy to use.

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Date:         Thu, 14 May 1998 12:17:21 -0400
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Alex Baker wrote:

> Does anybody know were I can get a newer version than VR1.1?
>
> I particularly need a text search facility.

The latest version that I know of is 1.11   I think its available on
SUPER.

AFAIK v1.1 DOES text searches.  You'll have to register your copy with
the author - Gilles Kohl.

-PR
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Date:         Thu, 14 May 1998 12:38:28 -0400
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Forgive me for bringing this up again, but, I didn't see the outcome of the
previous discussion(s).

What, if any, are the effects of Y2K on this machine, and, what can or can't
be done to overcome these?

If someone would let me know or point me to the appropriate archival
message(s) it would be most helpful.  Thanks!

                       regards...
                                  Tony

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Date:         Thu, 14 May 1998 10:29:03 -0700
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Have any of you enterprising hardware people looked at the possibility
of adding a much-needed parallel port to the HP?  I'm not talking
a S/P converter, I'm talking a *real* LPT port.

I imagine it would take some research to find a connector tiny enough
(say, to fit where David's earphone jack is placed).  Seems like this
would be a really nice product for Mack (I'd sure buy it *today*).
Heck, toss the IR LED for room if it's needed, I'd much rather have
a real LPT than the IR which I don't use..

Why?  Becaues lots of things are using the parallel port these days
for more than printing (scanners, ZIPs, etc).  It's also the best
connection to interface cool experimental circuits to...  IMHO, it's
becoming one of the biggest incompatibilities from a real XT (at
least from teh poing of cool stuff I'd like to do lately).  And no,
I don't want to give up the PCMCIA slot to a parallel card, I want
that flash available!

Think about it, you could sell a parallel port install (and maybe
teeter those folks into a ram/speed upgrade at the same time), plus
sell the special DB-25 to molecular-size cables for a profit.

Hmm, the more I think about it the more I want it! Wadayasay?

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Hi all!

I just bought a 200LX today, one guy just wanted to get rid of it!. But I am
not quite sure if it was a coup or not...

There are problems on the right hand part of the screen, now and again or
with slight pressure vertical lines will not turn on. There is bad contact
somewhere on the right side... Is this something to just pray and hope it
won't get worse or can a simple fix be applied? Or is this a major problem?
With slight pressure the display is ok, take my finger away and a vertical
line appears. Or is it a non-line? :-)

Anybody opened the lid to repair any screen problems? Does HP have a
no-questions-asked world-wide repair service for this? Just hoping, in
vain...

Have a nice day!

Franklin

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As far as I can tell, the only impact Y2K has on the 200LX is in Lotus 123.

Where years are now displayed as 2 digits, after Y2K they will be displayed as
4 digits.  Therefore, the column widths may have to be widened accordingly.

There are also issues with entering dates in databases.  I don't know the
break-off points are, but certain year dates will have to be entered as 4
digits.  This pertains to early years (downward towards 1900) and later years
(upward towards 2100).

Michael Stocker
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| Date: Thursday, May 14, 1998 12:38 PM
|
(snip)
|What, if any, are the effects of Y2K on this machine, and, what can or can't
| be done to overcome these?
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Ross,

I have just returned home and have arranged the sale of my
200LX and the 1.8M Flashdisk!

I still have the 6M Flashdisk if you are still interested, if so
make me an offer..............

Hope to hear from you soon.

Regards

Ian

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Folks,

Thanks to all of you who responded!

The 200LX has now been sold, if you responded and
were not the luck person - sorry, I wish I had a few more.


Regards
Ian

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Date:         Thu, 14 May 1998 20:51:13 +0200
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On Thu, 14 May 1998, Chris Lott wrote:

snip
> Do you know if version 3.0 ran on an 8086?
According to Softwarehouse it does...


muMath
> p.s.  Hmmmmm.... I just pulled out the muMath manual, and perused it.
> It seems to have been written by the same company as Derive, The Soft
> Warehouse of Honolulu, by David Stoutemyer and Albert Rich.  It would
> appear that it was sold in a variety of flavors to run on all sorts of
> microprocessors of its day, 8080 CPM, Apples, and MS-DOS.  It's name,
> muMath-83, tell me that it is of 1983 vintage.  Why Microsoft's name
> is on the document is a mystery, unless they bought the rights to
> distribute/sell the MS-DOS version of the program.

Yes, Derive is what muMath eventually turned into. Although I don't
remember the exact story (someone told me, but I forgot...) it was
something about Microsoft not wanting to distribute the program any longer
and then SWH went into business for themselves. This is fairly common
procedure - Borland's TurboBasic was later relaunched as PowerBasic by the
original programmer.

BTW. SoftwareHouse still sell their Lisp compiler, still called muLisp.
In fact, Derive is (at least partially) written in it.


Regards,

Laust

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Hellow users of WWW-LX Plus.

   I am hoping those of your on this list who use WWW-LX Plus can help me.
   I traded my old Omnigo 100 for a used copy of WWW-LX Plus v. 2.0 last month, and have been using it on my 100LX for the past weeks with great success.  Well the other day I had set the date on my palmtop to May 8, 2015 to see how far ahead I could set the clock.
   To make a story short I forgot to put the date back to 1998 and I went to download my email.  It told me when I dialed with WWW that I was unregistered evaluation!  It wouldn't let me download all my mail or anything, hardly.  I checked my registration, and it was still right.  Then I noticed the date, and returned it to the right one.  WWW then worked for May 12, 1998.
   I tried other dates, I'm not sure where the software stops being registered but it seems like the later half of 1998 it goes back to demo.  Weird.
   HAve you had this problem as well, or is it my problem with my 100LX?  Since then I have had other problems with email since then, I don't know if support for WWW D & A has  responded to my cries for help.  If your email me, I can not see it, I think.  What should I do?

   Do any of you get the 'demo' version too on later dates?

Thank you.
Dan Brooks

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(Sorry if this is a repeat...mail problems)
 Hello users of WWW-LX Plus.

    I am hoping those of your on this list who use WWW-LX Plus can help me.
    I traded my old Omnigo 100 for a used copy of WWW-LX Plus v. 2.0 last month, and have been using it on my 100LX for the past weeks with great success.  Well the other day I had set the date on my palmtop to May 8, 2015 to see how far ahead I could set the clock.
    To make a story short I forgot to put the date back to 1998 and I went to download my email.  It told me when I dialed with WWW that I was unregistered evaluation!  It wouldn't let me download all my mail or anything, hardly.  I checked my registration, and it was still right.  Then I noticed the date, and returned it to the right one.  WWW then worked for May 12, 1998.
    I tried other dates, I'm not sure where the software stops being registered but it seems like the later half of 1998 it goes back to demo.  Weird.
    HAve you had this problem as well, or is it my problem with my 100LX?  Since then I have had other problems with email since then, I don't know if support for WWW D & A has  responded to my cries for help.  If your email me, I can not see it, I think.  What should I do?

    Do any of you get the 'demo' version too on later dates?

 Thank you.
 Dan Brooks

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Date:         Thu, 14 May 1998 12:53:30 -0600
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Hi!
This is not something that should be going on.

Helmut in Colorado

When you can clean "Windows" only then will it be good.

On Thu, 14 May 1998 20:01:25 +0200 Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
writes:
>Hi all!
>
>I just bought a 200LX today, one guy just wanted to get rid of it!.
>But I am
>not quite sure if it was a coup or not...
>
>There are problems on the right hand part of the screen, now and again
>or
>with slight pressure vertical lines will not turn on. There is bad
>contact
>somewhere on the right side... Is this something to just pray and hope
>it
>won't get worse or can a simple fix be applied? Or is this a major
>problem?
>With slight pressure the display is ok, take my finger away and a
>vertical
>line appears. Or is it a non-line? :-)
>
>Anybody opened the lid to repair any screen problems? Does HP have a
>no-questions-asked world-wide repair service for this? Just hoping, in
>vain...
>
>Have a nice day!
>
>Franklin
>
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I have a similar query, except from within batch files.  My Path is getting so
long that I have problems with it getting wrapped around and messing up
horribly, and as far as I've seen there isn't a way to add to the path.

How do you have long paths, or multiple path statements?

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Michael:

> Where years are now displayed as 2 digits, after Y2K they will be =
displayed as
> 4 digits.  Therefore, the column widths may have to be widened according=
ly.

That is correct.

> There are also issues with entering dates in databases.  I don't know =
the
> break-off points are, but certain year dates will have to be entered as =
4
> digits.  This pertains to early years (downward towards 1900) and later =
years
> (upward towards 2100).

Not quite so. You enter a date as @date(99,12,31) for December 31,
1999. @date(100,1,1) for January 1, 2000. The highest date you
can enter is @date(199,12,31), which December 31, 2099.

  Avi M. D&A

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<HTML>
Steven
<BR>It has about 4,600 or so enrtries at present. I have it in Excel format
but also in dBASE IV. If you'd like a copy of it just let me know.
<BR>Tony

<P>Steven Coles wrote:
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<BR>My mother in law is visiting and it would come in handy.
<BR>Steven Coles

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Subject:      Re: Continuation Lines (was: environment space)

> I have a similar query, except from within batch files.  My Path is getting so
> long that I have problems with it getting wrapped around and messing up
> horribly, and as far as I've seen there isn't a way to add to the path.
>
> How do you have long paths, or multiple path statements?
>
> --
>  -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.. .
>  .  Walter Francis                                               _. KT4LH  .

That one is easy, except that there is an internal length limit on
the DOS path, I think it may be 127 characters but I am not sure.
ANyway, to make your path line more readable in your batch files do
it like this:

Set path=c:\;c:\dos;c:\bin;c:\batch
set path=%path%;d:\dos;d:\bin;d:\batch

The "trick" is the %path% in the second line, that is the path
variable that was set in the first line. It doesn't have to be first,
it can appear anywhere that you want the first set of directories in
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set path=%1;%path%

and call it something like addpath.bat. Now to add a new directory to
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addpath e:\newdir

and that would be your first path entry, with everything else moved
down one.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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Tidewater Community College
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Franklin Eekhout wrote:
> I just bought a 200LX today, one guy just wanted to get rid of it!. But I am
> not quite sure if it was a coup or not...
What did you pay for it? How much memory/speed upgrade applied?
> Or is this a major problem?
I'd say.
> Anybody opened the lid to repair any screen problems? Does HP have a
> no-questions-asked world-wide repair service for this? Just hoping, in
> vain...
I posted an address for HP's service center to this list a few weeks ago
(enclosed). For a flat fee, which varies by unit and probably exceeds
what you paid for it, they will completely refurb or replace the unit.
Good luck.
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Earl T. Benson wrote:
> What can I do to avoid a broken hinge?  (Other than not using the
> machine itself!!)
        Well, don't do what I did: ignore it! I noticed a hinge crack after
using my HP100LX/1MB for over a year, and within three weeks of noticing
it, the hinge disintegrated and the system is virtually unusable. If you
noice it, fix it immediately.
        FYI, if you don't want to risk the repair yourself or have a unit with
an ugly patch, you might consider having HP service the unit
out-of-warranty. I checked this out, and for my machine they charge a
flat $175 fee for "service". This really means they do a complete
refurbish job, replacing lost or broken parts, and if necessary
replacing the whole unit with another "from the same year". (Does HP
really stock old units for the purpose of replacing service units?) Of
course, back up your system before sending it in, because they may
lobotomize it.
        To pursue this option, call HP at 970/635-1000, and/or mail your unit
to:
        Hewlett-Packard Corp, Corvallis Service Center
        1030 NE Circle Blvd, Bldg #11
        Corvallis, OR 97330
(BTW, I have no connection with HP, and cannot recommend for or against
HP's service option.)
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Date:         Thu, 14 May 1998 15:30:17 -0700
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http://www.port-home.com/transpc/TRANCARD.HTM

Close enough Steven?



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>
>Have any of you enterprising hardware people looked at the possibility
>of adding a much-needed parallel port to the HP?  I'm not talking
>a S/P converter, I'm talking a *real* LPT port.
>
>I imagine it would take some research to find a connector tiny enough
>(say, to fit where David's earphone jack is placed).  Seems like this
>would be a really nice product for Mack (I'd sure buy it *today*).
>Heck, toss the IR LED for room if it's needed, I'd much rather have
>a real LPT than the IR which I don't use..
>
>Why?  Becaues lots of things are using the parallel port these days
>for more than printing (scanners, ZIPs, etc).  It's also the best
>connection to interface cool experimental circuits to...  IMHO, it's
>becoming one of the biggest incompatibilities from a real XT (at
>least from teh poing of cool stuff I'd like to do lately).  And no,
>I don't want to give up the PCMCIA slot to a parallel card, I want
>that flash available!
>
>Think about it, you could sell a parallel port install (and maybe
>teeter those folks into a ram/speed upgrade at the same time), plus
>sell the special DB-25 to molecular-size cables for a profit.
>
>Hmm, the more I think about it the more I want it! Wadayasay?
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Date:         Thu, 14 May 1998 15:44:57 -0700
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Nope, I'm talking built-in so the PCMCIA slot is available!  I've
emailed David about it this morning.  David, did you (could you?) copy
Mack on my original message, I posted it from my Unix box and it
doesn't appear to be saving copies of outgoing messages. (assuming you
even have it still).  Curious if he thinks it can be done..

> http://www.port-home.com/transpc/TRANCARD.HTM
>
> Close enough Steven?

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> >least from teh poing of cool stuff I'd like to do lately).  And no,
> >I don't want to give up the PCMCIA slot to a parallel card, I want
> >that flash available!

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Date:         Thu, 14 May 1998 20:03:17 -0400
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For those interested in an alternative to the HP AC adapter for 100/200LXs, I
found the following unit at Radio Shack:

    Cat no: 273-1653
    Input: 120VAC 60Hz 25W
    Output: 12VDC 1000mA
    Plugs: 5.5/2.1mm  5.5/2.8mm  5.5/3.8mm 6.3/3.0mm w/both polarities
    Price: $22

This unit is bigger than the old 95LX AC adapter.  Definitely not for travel.

However, is does feature a resetable circuit breaker.

Michael Stocker
e-mail: mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
home page: http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm

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Date:         Thu, 14 May 1998 20:31:57 -0700
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              Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
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Folks,

I went to my appointment book, built in app, and it returned invalid file
type.

I have a backup (only 4 hours old) so I didn't lose anything but I worry
that I did something to cause it. Any ideas?

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Fri, 15 May 1998 17:30:06 +1000
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Message-ID: <355BEDB9.882@21century.com.au>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 17:24:41 +1000
From: Alex Baker <abaker@21century.com.au>
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Peniel Romanelli wrote:
>
> Alex Baker wrote:
>
> > Does anybody know were I can get a newer version than VR1.1?
> >
> > I particularly need a text search facility.
>
> The latest version that I know of is 1.11   I think its available on
> SUPER.
>
> AFAIK v1.1 DOES text searches.  You'll have to register your copy with
> the author - Gilles Kohl.
>
> -PR
> -

Thanks for your reply.
The problem is I have tried to register with Gilles Kohl...I filled out
and mailed a postcard to Germany months ago...no reply. Is he still
around?

What is SUPER?

What is AFAIK? and were do I get this?

Regards

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Date:         Fri, 15 May 1998 08:48:04 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Need battery door for LX
Comments: To: speters@KDSI.NET

Mack sold me one a while ago. Forget the price but I believe it was
less than $20.


On 1998-05-13 speters@KDSI.NET said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Can somebody supply me with a door for less
   >than the $20 part kit from HP?
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Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Registered

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Does anyone out there with a doublespeed machine also use a double slot3
I do, but the patch that I have (from SUPER) is for the older version of
DS_ATA.sys. I either need the older driver for the doubleslot, or the =
newer
patchfor the double speed-ness.

Thanks, Darren.

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Date:         Fri, 15 May 1998 09:17:11 -0400
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Alex Baker wrote:

> The problem is I have tried to register with Gilles Kohl...I filled out
> and mailed a postcard to Germany months ago...no reply. Is he still
> around?

Not sure - sorry.

> What is SUPER?

SUPER is the best source of freeware and shareware for the palmtops.
        http://palmtop,net/supernew.html
This is the page for new additions to the site.  There is a search
engine for the complete site, and a link to the complete listing (big).

> What is AFAIK? and were do I get this?

AFAIK is one of those "netspeak" terms.  It's short for "As Far As I
Know".  Sorry for the confusion.

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Date:         Fri, 15 May 1998 07:54:03 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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For anybody who is looking for a 200LX, just found this post on the
newsgroups.


--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "george.marshman" <george.marshman@mci2000.com>
Subject: hp 200lx palmtop
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 23:53:32 GMT

Anyone interested in purchasing the above item?  Works perfectly well, =
just
not what I need....



--- end of forwarded message ---




Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
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Date:         Fri, 15 May 1998 10:03:44 -0600
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test - sorry for the wasted bandwidth.

***********************************************************************
R. Christopher Lott, P.E.                               lott@phase4.com
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3405 Triana Blvd, SW                                      rclott@ro.com
Huntsville, AL  35805
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Date:         Fri, 15 May 1998 10:44:08 -0500
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Edward A. Padin wrote:
> Mack sold me one a while ago. Forget the price but I believe it was
> less than $20.
        The HP service center which I've mentioned previously sells "service
hits", which include (aproximately, from memory), a backup battery tray,
BU batt & IR port window, main battery door, two hinge caps, two sets of
rubber feet, and a personalization plaque, for about $20.
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Date:         Fri, 15 May 1998 11:51:19 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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That's actually not a bad deal, especially if you have an old, scratched
unit like mine.:-)


                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Kevin Calman mailto:codex@EARTHLING.NET
                Sent:   Friday, May 15, 1998 11:44 AM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        Re: HPLX-L Need battery door for LX

                Edward A. Padin wrote:
                > Mack sold me one a while ago. Forget the price but I
believe it was
                > less than $20.
                        The HP service center which I've mentioned
previously sells "service
                hits", which include (aproximately, from memory), a
backup battery tray,
                BU batt & IR port window, main battery door, two hinge
caps, two sets of
                rubber feet, and a personalization plaque, for about
$20.

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Date:         Sat, 16 May 1998 00:52:58 -0800
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              Chin Jien Hung <jienhung@SINGNET.COM.SG>
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Hi lists,

Just want to share these goodies.

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that return email to you if you send them an email request every time.

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Date:         Fri, 15 May 1998 13:52:54 -0400
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> Does anyone out there with a doublespeed machine also use a double slot3
> I do, but the patch that I have (from SUPER) is for the older version of
> DS_ATA.sys. I either need the older driver for the doubleslot, or the newer
> patchfor the double speed-ness.

I use it without the patch. I think the newer driver is fixed for working
with the doublespeed modification.

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Date:         Fri, 15 May 1998 16:04:02 -0400
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How do you use an alternate font with the built-in apps?

At 07:58 PM 5/11/98 +0100, you wrote:
>I thought alternate fonts only worked with the built - in applications
>and not with DOS applications?
>
>In message , David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ> writes
>>   <Snip>
>>
>>   >My only gripe is the small HP200LX screen makes the text really
>>   >hard to read. Using zoom (Fn + space) but you have to scroll around
>>   >the screen with the menu plus arrow keys and you only get to see
>>   >one window at a time.
>>   >Thanks
>>   >Peter
>>   >Dr Peter Maddern
>>   >Technical Manager
>>   >North Wales, UK.
>>
>>Have you tried one of the alternative fonts written for the LX?
>>They "Un-Muddy"(!!) up the display, once tried, always used!
>>Try the super page www.palmtop.net/super.html
>>
>>David Lawrence
>>katana@clear.net.nz
>>
>>Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive
>>
>
>Dr Peter Maddern
>Technical Manager
>North Wales, UK.
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Date:         Fri, 15 May 1998 13:42:39 PDT
Reply-To:     Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>
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Subject:      Poor Man's Resource guide for the HP200LX
Comments: To: Nicholas Chan <ncknight@pacific.net.sg>

Addressed to: Nicholas Chan <ncknight@pacific.net.sg>
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Nick,

I hope all the concern/discussion/debate/flame over your HP CORP page idea
hasn't caused you to drop the PMR page idea?



** Reply to note from Nicholas Chan <ncknight@pacific.net.sg> Wed,6 May 1998


> I am also planning to put up a PMR, a Poor Man's Resource guide for the HP200LX. A
> starting point would be how to get POP/NNTP/FTP/*IRC* and so on things in the 200LX
> with means of LXTCP v0.8, DOSPPP 0.6 and other things.... I haven't got it up and
> running on mine yet, so I will just add the stuff as they come. Other PMR might be on
> how to install JAM/Stacker (I use JAM myself, coz I only have a C:, and it appears
> Stacker will NOT stack my C:); Many pages seems to have a flippant explaination on
> how this is done. I hope to be able to be write a understandable version of the JAM
> installation. With Stacker, I hope someone can submit a similar help to the site.

>
> Hope I can contribute to the community that have helped me in so many ways I could
> have never done so myself. I will post up the progress data again soon.
> .... Microsoft crawls under Gates. Software crawls under Windows. OS/2!



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Date:         Fri, 15 May 1998 17:00:37 -0400
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John Musielewicz wrote:

> How do you use an alternate font with the built-in apps?

Check out the SUPER site:
http://palmtop.net/super.html

Look for fontstuff.zip   This has font loaders for a whole BUNCH of
alternate fonts.  The loaders are TSRs you can put in your autoexec.bat
file.

Any of them should make the screen a LOT easier to read!  Contrary to
an earlier post, these work in both built-in apps and DOS apps.

-PR
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Date:         Fri, 15 May 1998 20:53:42 -0400
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What is the highest version of Word for Windows that will run on this
computer? And what version of Windows does it require?
Thanks.

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Date:         Fri, 15 May 1998 18:20:49 -0700
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> The problem is I have tried to register with Gilles Kohl...I filled out
> and mailed a postcard to Germany months ago...no reply. Is he still
> around?

Yes, he is around, but the address included in the package is
out of date.

I'll forward your email to him.

  Avi M. D&A

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On Fri, 15 May 1998 18:20:49 -0700, you wrote:

>> The problem is I have tried to register with Gilles Kohl...I filled =
out
>> and mailed a postcard to Germany months ago...no reply. Is he still
>> around?
>
>Yes, he is around, but the address included in the package is
>out of date.
>
>I'll forward your email to him.
>
>  Avi M. D&A
>
>
I would also like to register my VR
Can you help me.
Dean Lonning=20
2514   298th St
Spencer, Ia 51301

dean@iowaone.net

Thanks.
73


Dean L. W5GXL

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Date:         Sat, 16 May 1998 18:02:28 +1200
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Subject:      Re: Word for Windows

   >What is the highest version of Word for Windows that will run on
   >this computer? And what version of Windows does it require?
   >Thanks.

I know for certain that Word 1.1 will work. As for Windows, All
versions up to 3.0 will run, but 2.03 (IMHO) makes the best bet.

Version 1.0 of windows is way old, an interesting diversion, but
for serious work, I don't think so.

Version 2.03 is my fave, having full useability for the keyboard-only
LX's. It uses the "Filer" algorithm, calling it "The MS-Dos
Executive" Surly in the running for the worst name ever!

Version 3.0 is the first with the "Program Manager" algorithm,
using Icons to make program selection easier for the LCD.

3.0 unfortunately, is a step backward for keyboard shortcuts,
many having been chopped as the programmers all chimed in
together with "The whole world will follow Lord Bill and embrace
Windows and the mouse and soon make keyboards obselete"

Another drawback of 3.0 is it's increased size over 2.03
I use Word 1.1 and Excel 2.1 but am still looking for a decent
database for Windows on the LX. The cardfile is woeful in
comparison to the built-in LX one.

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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I just installed a 2X crystal and very occasionally, a couple of keys =
wont
work 100% until I squeeze the keyboard some. I double checked tightness =
of
the Torx screws, so I'd like to apply some cleaning agent to the keyboard.
Something that will soak down in there and clean it.

I guess I'd like to use alchohol, will it do any damage?

Darren.

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I use PalEdit and some DOS aplications running under System Manager, but
they failed to print using the Infrared Port. I try outside Sysmgr,
using "serctl /i" command, and also a LPT to Com diversion utililty
obtained through Simtel/msdos/printer FTP site, again it failed.

Did anyone successfully print DOS program using IR port ? Any
suggestions welcome.

Thanks in advance.

Jien Hung

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Date:         Sat, 16 May 1998 16:52:27 -0700
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              Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
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Some folks were talking about DataPerfect.

I just saw a copy of DataPerfect
Box, Disks, LICENCE, manuals, keyboard template and original invoice for
sale at
Book City Paradise
3315 S.E. Hawthorne Blvd
Portland, Or. 97214
503-234-6003
503-235-1979 fax
They do take credit cards , they are not on the internet.
They also have a couple of dozen various  3rd party books on 123
including the quick ref kind., used ,cheap.

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Date:         Sat, 16 May 1998 17:19:48 -0700
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Darren,

> I just installed a 2X crystal and very occasionally, a couple
> of keys wont work 100% until I squeeze the keyboard some. I
> double checked tightness of the Torx screws, so I'd like to
> apply some cleaning agent to the keyboard. Something that
> will soak down in there and clean it.

And did it solve your WWW/LX Plus problems? I know the answer,
because you sent it privately to me. I think it would be good
for people to know what you wrote to me, in case they use a
similar setup.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 00:51:18 -0000
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Comments:     Originally-From: jim.henry@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)
From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Subject:      Re: Keyboard cleaning?
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HM>I just installed a 2X crystal and very occasionally, a couple of keys =
  >wont
  >work 100% until I squeeze the keyboard some. I double checked tightness =
  >of
  >the Torx screws, so I'd like to apply some cleaning agent to the keyboard.
  >Something that will soak down in there and clean it.

HM>I guess I'd like to use alchohol, will it do any damage?


I had this problem with my 100LX and it was definitely related to the
screws not being tightened enough to hold the case together firmly.
Are you SURE that's not it?

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Date:         Sat, 16 May 1998 23:11:03 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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The counter mechanism on the Top 20 files page is still being a pain and
insists on eating its count file every now and then. Rather than bring it back
on from a backup again I have let it re-start to get some new players near the
top for a while. If you visited the page very much, you know that Stefan Peichl
is the all-time champ with his LXPic as it was way ahead of everything else.
Hopefully, we can get the counter fixed and then can take all the web logs and
get the accurate counts back up again. Just in case you were wondering...

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 00:16:44 -0400
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ibm good shape 50.00 plus shipping
thanks
mike

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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 15:39:06 +1000
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Gilles Kohl has kindly got in contact with me.

Thanks to all who helped me.

May the 200LX live on........

Alex Baker

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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 10:02:52 +0200
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The recent discussion about email software ("WWW/lx, Goin' Postal vs
Nettamer") provokes in my
mind a new question: are there applications which would be useful for
the palmtop but which
nobody has yet written (and nobody is known to be working on)?

I have thought about starting a personal programming project aimed at
producing something
"useful" for the palmtop, but I can't see any obvious gaps in the
available applications. A few
months ago I would have said "HTML viewer", but it is very hard to
imagine improving on HV. In
fact, a look through the SUPER site listings shows how well palmtop
users are catered for on
many fronts.

Any suggestions?

John Allen
Luxembourg
home: jballen@sprynet.com
work: john.allen@eurostat.cec.be

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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 01:29:22 -0700
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Got this from Gilles:

----------

 Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 02:32:41 -0400
 From: "Gilles Kohl Team HP" <100114.3146@compuserve.com>
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Verticle Reader for HP200LX
 To: "sponsor@ftel.net" <sponsor@ftel.net>

Avi,

Thanks for forwarding the message. Version 1.11 of VR actually
has the correct address (Hagsfelder Allee 16), but older
versions (which are easy to replace on CompuServe but  out of
control on the Internet and shareware CDROMs unfortunately)
may have an older one (Rudolfstr. 12).

My current, complete address is:

  Gilles Kohl,
  Hagsfelder Allee 16
  D-76131 Karlsruhe
  GERMANY

The email address included in the docs
(100114.3146@compuserve.com) has always been valid though.

   Regards,
   Gilles.

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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 01:29:25 -0700
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John,

> In fact, a look through the SUPER site listings shows how
> well palmtop users are catered for on many fronts.

It is frustrating, isn't it? Everything has already been done!
:-)

How about this: A Lotus Notes client. That'll keep you busy
for a few years :)...

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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 17:26:23 +0800
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Hi There,

I would love to see following programs on HP 200LX:

* A MS Excel 97 viewer/converter (to Lotus 123).
* A MS PowerPoint/Lotus Freelance viewer.
* Sync with the REX card program.
* A 3D action/shooting game such as Duke Nuke'm & Doom.
* A good Pool Game specially designed for the 200LX.
* A Visual EXM programming interface (as MS Visual Basic but for EXM).

Regards,

Jorgen


> The recent discussion about email software ("WWW/lx, Goin' Postal vs
> Nettamer") provokes in my
> mind a new question: are there applications which would be useful for
> the palmtop but which
> nobody has yet written (and nobody is known to be working on)?
>
> I have thought about starting a personal programming project aimed at
> producing something
> "useful" for the palmtop, but I can't see any obvious gaps in the
> available applications. A few
> months ago I would have said "HTML viewer", but it is very hard to
> imagine improving on HV. In
> fact, a look through the SUPER site listings shows how well palmtop
> users are catered for on
> many fronts.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> John Allen

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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 10:21:14 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Olympus (Agfa, Epson) digital cameras
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you wrote a nice English message but the site is in Dutch! I hope
somebody got more out of it than I did  :-)

> If there is somebody on this list who uses these camera's, and wants to
> connect them with their palmtop, then this page might be interesting:
>
> How to connect your camera:
> http://huizen.dds.nl/~kropveld/olympus.html#hplx
>
> Which software is there available (DOS, Windows)
> http://huizen.dds.nl/~kropveld/olympus.html#sw
>
> Good luck!
> Hartelijke groeten van Daniel Kropveld
>  +----------------------------------------------------------------------=
-+
>  | Daniel Kropveld, Academic Medical Center, Neurophys and Exp Medicine =
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>  |  <D.Kropveld@amc.uva.nl>       (eMAIL)                              =
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>  +----------------------------------------------------------------------=
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>  PS: English is not my first language. (I can read Dutch, English and =
German)
> http://huizen.dds.nl/~kropveld/         - Personal Home Page (in Dutch)
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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 10:56:33 -0400
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              Allen Solof <allensolof@BOONE.NET>
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P.S. I had downloaded your message to my HP but tried to access your
site from my desktop. I don't know what happened but maybe I typed in
the address a little wrong because I came to your site and it was all
in Dutch. I tried to access your site directly from the Hp (using
WWW/LX and highlighting the lin in your message) and it worked! I saw
everything in English. Now I will digest all the information. I have a
Kodak DC20 camera and was thinking of upgrading. thanks again, and all
the best, al

> If there is somebody on this list who uses these camera's, and wants to
> connect them with their palmtop, then this page might be interesting:
>
> How to connect your camera:
> http://huizen.dds.nl/~kropveld/olympus.html#hplx
>
> Which software is there available (DOS, Windows)
> http://huizen.dds.nl/~kropveld/olympus.html#sw
>
> Good luck!
> Hartelijke groeten van Daniel Kropveld
>  +----------------------------------------------------------------------=
-+
>  | Daniel Kropveld, Academic Medical Center, Neurophys and Exp Medicine =
 |
>  |  <D.Kropveld@amc.uva.nl>       (eMAIL)                              =
  |
>  +----------------------------------------------------------------------=
-+
>  PS: English is not my first language. (I can read Dutch, English and =
German)
> http://huizen.dds.nl/~kropveld/         - Personal Home Page (in Dutch)
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     Hello!

     What is the good email program the is the best for use?


     Thanks Yehuda.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of
> Mitchell B. Hamm
>
> The counter mechanism on the Top 20 files page is still being a pain and
> insists on eating its count file every now and then. Rather than
> bring it back
> on from a backup again I have let it re-start to get some new
> players near the top for a while.

This is a superb move, Mitch! I've been meaning to suggest exactly that to
you for quite some time now but resisted... so here's my window of
opportunity :-)

The Top 20 is a great idea but seeing the *same* 12~15 progs in the same
place each time i visit the page really doesn't tell me who are the up and
coming stars! <g> LxPic will probably never be nudged from the top spot and
casts a long shadow on other fine work that has been coming along.

In my opinion, a current Top 20 (restarted every 3 months or less) will keep
the listings fresh and provide challenge and inspiration to new contributors
of popular progs/utils, while at the same time make hitting the page much
more exciting for all visitors - authors and users alike! Could even
kickstart those authors or 'would-be authors' <g> who have been sitting on
the fence or those staring at the project they started and could never find
the urge to finish ;-) This page is a powerful resource that can be made to
impact very positively on the HP LX community!

Sadly, there are many great contributions that may never hit the SUPER Top
20 with its present configuration. Knowing the Top 20 'of all time' is very
useful also and maybe this could be sent out with every fourth or fifth
edition of Super's newest software additions (which BTW is a superb
offering - thank you)...

Regards,

Ian C. Melville
imelv@tstt.net.tt

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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 12:16:14 -0400
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> In my opinion, a current Top 20 (restarted every 3 months or less) will keep
> the listings fresh

I think this is a great idea as long as the counter will behave. I will add a
date to the page again to give an idea of how old the Top 20 is.

Possibly we can do a separate page for "Top 20 Of All Time" so people will be
sure not to miss the absolute must-haves out there.

> edition of Super's newest software additions (which BTW is a superb
> offering - thank you)...

Thanks should really go to Don Collins for suggesting that the feature be added
and to Murray Barton who did the first perl script for the notifier and to John
Stanley for doing the current perl script. There are lots of friendly, helpful
folks out there...

Mitch

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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 13:31:57 -0400
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> This is a superb move, Mitch! I've been meaning to suggest exactly that to
> you for quite some time now but resisted... so here's my window of
> opportunity :-)
>
> The Top 20 is a great idea but seeing the *same* 12~15 progs in the same
> place each time i visit the page really doesn't tell me who are the up and
> coming stars! <g> LxPic will probably never be nudged from the top spot and
> casts a long shadow on other fine work that has been coming along.
>
> In my opinion, a current Top 20 (restarted every 3 months or less)...

My suggestion would be a sliding 3-month or 6-month window, updated
monthly. (That is: keep track of the numbers for each month; add up the
last 3 or 6 months and display these numbers; each new month delete the
oldest month's data.)

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Date:         Sat, 16 May 1998 17:52:21 +0100
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Anyone know of a shop (ideally in UK) selling a rectangular magnifying
glass that could clip on the HP200LX screen?

I've come to the conclusion that this is the only way to be able to read
Info Select windows in the non - zoom mode I prefer to work in. I'm
using the "andrew" font which is more readable than the machine's basic
font but I find the on - screen windows still basically tough to read!

As I said in a previous posting, zooming is the obvious solution but in
Info Select, zooming moves windows out of view and you either have to
use "edit" or "menu" plus arrow keys and neither method shows more than
one window at a time.

So I'm looking for a magnifying glass equivalent to Mitch's clip on
light. Any thoughts? Even a DIY solution idea would be welcome.

Thanks


Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 14:06:55 -0700
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As many of you may know, my wife and I will be traveling through
Ireland, England, and Scotland starting next week.  I've got all the
necessary phone adapters to hook my trusty LX up to the "foreign" phone
system, but I was wondering if an acoustic coupler should be on my list
of stuff to bring along.  I haven't used one since my old acoustic
300bps days (way back when) but I don't want to be out of touch...
email is going to be our only link to home.  Also, my only link to
work... I just got promoted to operations manager of our company, so I
don't want to lose touch with the home office.  Any tips or hints
regarding acoustic couplers would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 17:19:23 -0400
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I can't vouch for how well they work, but Port has one listed on their web shop
that sounds pretty nice. They are at http://www.port.com. They also carry other
neat connectivity hardware including an all-in-one foreign travel pack.

Mitch

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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 14:52:29 -0700
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              Marta <pierce@ARACNET.COM>
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Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
>
> Hi There,
>
> I would love to see following programs on HP 200LX:
>
> * A MS Excel 97 viewer/converter (to Lotus 123).
> * A MS PowerPoint/Lotus Freelance viewer.
> * Sync with the REX card program.
> * A 3D action/shooting game such as Duke Nuke'm & Doom.
> * A good Pool Game specially designed for the 200LX.
> * A Visual EXM programming interface (as MS Visual Basic but for EXM).
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>
How about a converter/Synch program for outlook and native hp200lx
databases?

Marta

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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 15:34:08 -0700
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Comments: To: Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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I bought a pair of 2X reading glasses to use with mine (about $10).  Works
great (I found I've started using them when reading for long periods also).

At 05:52 PM 5/16/98 +0100, you wrote:
>Anyone know of a shop (ideally in UK) selling a rectangular magnifying
>glass that could clip on the HP200LX screen?
>
>I've come to the conclusion that this is the only way to be able to read
>Info Select windows in the non - zoom mode I prefer to work in. I'm
>using the "andrew" font which is more readable than the machine's basic
>font but I find the on - screen windows still basically tough to read!
>
>As I said in a previous posting, zooming is the obvious solution but in
>Info Select, zooming moves windows out of view and you either have to
>use "edit" or "menu" plus arrow keys and neither method shows more than
>one window at a time.
>
>So I'm looking for a magnifying glass equivalent to Mitch's clip on
>light. Any thoughts? Even a DIY solution idea would be welcome.
>
>Thanks
>
>
>Dr Peter Maddern
>Technical Manager
>North Wales, UK.
>
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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 09:14:18 +1000
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              Greg Dwyer <gdwyer@MELBPC.ORG.AU>
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Yes, I agree that a converter/sync program for Outlook would be very
advantageous.

Regards

Greg Dwyer - gdwyer@melbpc.org.au
PGP public key location -
www.nai.com/products/security/public_keys/lookup_key.asp



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How about a converter/Synch program for outlook and native hp200lx
databases?

Marta

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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 19:31:06 -0800
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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Good UNIX Shell for Dos

I just found what is probably the best unix-alike shell that will run
on the 200lx. It is the shell v2.3 by datalogic and Charles Forsyth and
can be found on simtel with the file name "ms_sh23b.zip". This shell is
made to be KSH-like and allows line continuation, tab/filename
completion, scripts/programming structures and a lot of other great
stuff. It comes versions for OS2/95/NT but the 16bit version is the
only one that works in the LX (of course.) The 16bit shell is almost
 200K but takes only 4K of overhead because it uses swapping. It can
 swap to my TREMM expanded memory as well as a temporary disk file.... Sweet!


Later.



           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 02:27:51 +0200
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On Sun, 17 May 1998, Edward A. Padin wrote:

> I just found what is probably the best unix-alike shell that will run
> on the 200lx. It is the shell v2.3 by datalogic and Charles Forsyth and
> can be found on simtel with the file name "ms_sh23b.zip". This shell is
> made to be KSH-like and allows line continuation, tab/filename
> completion, scripts/programming structures and a lot of other great
> stuff. It comes versions for OS2/95/NT but the 16bit version is the
> only one that works in the LX (of course.) The 16bit shell is almost
>  200K but takes only 4K of overhead because it uses swapping. It can
>  swap to my TREMM expanded memory as well as a temporary disk file.... Sweet!

Let me just add to what Edward said...

The shell is a pain to set up if you're not used to Unix, but once you get
it running it is excellent. I used to have it on my LX, but switched back
to 4DOS because that was what I'm used to.

Anyway, the korn shell is actually a port of the Minix Korn shell and it
does everything you'd expect it to. It is a bit slower than using
command.com as it has to swap out of memory, but since you can control
which applications are run with ksh in memory (which means ~200kb less
memory for the application) and which are run with it swapped out, you can
make it work almost as fast as under plain DOS. (For example, an ls-clone
doesn't need much memory and thus you don't have to swap ksh out of memory
before running it. This makes a noticeable speed increase - at least on a
single speed 200LX with no EMS driver. I suspect it will be much better on
a 2x speed/with an EMS driver or both! :-)

As Edward said, the file is availiable from Simtel's Gnuish section:

http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/gnu/gnuish/
(be warned though, it is a 800kb download)

Be sure to pick up some other Unix-like utilities at the same time as
you'll need them! (as it usually is under Unix, the shell relies on
external programs for doing most things such as copying, moving, etc.)

Regards,

Laust
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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 10:29:41 +1000
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http://www.marcan-dist.com/HP/index.htm
but it $119!!!!!!!
regards
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 20:49:56 -0400
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU On Behalf Of
> Mitchell B. Hamm
>
> Possibly we can do a separate page for "Top 20 Of All Time" so
> people will be
> sure not to miss the absolute must-haves out there.

I was secretly hoping that you'd want to do this... <vbg> The current Top 20
and the 'All Time Top 20' will cover just about everything! Thanks also to
Murray, Don and John for their work in the 'engine room'!

Regards,

Ian C. Melville
imelv@tstt.net.tt

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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 21:13:10 -0400
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WHere?
sounds good to me. can you point me in the right direction?
thanks




On Sun, 17 May 1998, olsena wrote:

> 10 MB cards are selling for less than that brand new.
>     -----Original Message-----
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>     To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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>
>
>     ibm good shape 50.00 plus shipping
>     thanks
>     mike
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Look for some of the "gameboy" addons.  I'm in Portland, or. but
have seen a dozen different clip on magnifying glass tools. Most also come
with a built light.

 On Sat, 16 May 1998, Peter Maddern wrote:

> Anyone know of a shop (ideally in UK) selling a rectangular magnifying
> glass that could clip on the HP200LX screen?
>
> I've come to the conclusion that this is the only way to be able to read
> Info Select windows in the non - zoom mode I prefer to work in. I'm
> using the "andrew" font which is more readable than the machine's basic
> font but I find the on - screen windows still basically tough to read!
>
> As I said in a previous posting, zooming is the obvious solution but in
> Info Select, zooming moves windows out of view and you either have to
> use "edit" or "menu" plus arrow keys and neither method shows more than
> one window at a time.
>
> So I'm looking for a magnifying glass equivalent to Mitch's clip on
> light. Any thoughts? Even a DIY solution idea would be welcome.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Dr Peter Maddern
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Everyone has been talking about what software they would like to have for
the LX so once again I would _love_ for someone to write a IRC client that
would be designed just for use on the LX. The CE guys have a IRC client and
I really think we should also :)

Jeff

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   >Anyone know of a shop (ideally in UK) selling a rectangular
   >magnifying glass that could clip on the HP200LX screen?
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 04:05:45 +0000
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   >So I'm looking for a magnifying glass equivalent to Mitch's clip on
   >light. Any thoughts? Even a DIY solution idea would be welcome.

In the US, bookstores and office supply stores usually carry plastic
fresnel lenses that could probably be cut to size and then fitted with
some plastic clips to hold it in place. I go for squinting myself <g>.

- Longden

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At 08:27 PM 5/17/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Everyone has been talking about what software they would like to have for
>the LX so once again I would _love_ for someone to write a IRC client that
>would be designed just for use on the LX. The CE guys have a IRC client and
>I really think we should also :)

I hate to name names, but Rowan Crowe of MoonRock fame (so you never heard
of it either? ;) wrote an IRC client for DOS.  Also, if you register
NetTamer you'll get an IRC client too.  I don't know where the NetTamer
site is, but there's a link to it on SUPER.  The client written in MoonRock
can be had at rowan.sensation.net.au; btw, as long as you're there, you
should pick up MoonRock because it's great.



Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

"Hell, even 15 years ago software was crappy, arrogant, and slow.  But
diverse.  Now, things are starting to change.  Through a weird paranormal
flux, some people make stuff that WORKS.  You may not have noticed this,
but (shh! don't tell anyone!) Caldera's stuff (this is trade secret stuff,
y'know) -- INSTALLS CORRECTLY.  YES!  DR-DOS 7.02 runs right the _first
time_.  No one that hasn't had more than their share of frop knows that
someone messed up in QA.  I'll be surprised if Caldera doesn't fire them."
        - M'self, "So What if it Runs?"

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On Sat, 16 May 1998 17:52:21 +0100, Peter Maddern wrote:

>Anyone know of a shop (ideally in UK) selling a rectangular magnifying
>glass that could clip on the HP200LX screen?

There used to be a company called Edmund Scientific, if I recall =
correctly,
which sold all sorts of interesting gadgets. I'm pretty sure they were in
London somewhere, but I remember seeing their ads in magazines some years
ago. Alternatively you could look for an optical wholesaler in your local
Yellow Pages. They would probably be able to give you a lead. I would =
think
you should be looking for a plastic fresnel lens designed for reading
books. My mother has an old rectangular reading lens her mother owned, =
but
it's very heavy glass and wouldn't be suitable. Good luck with your =
search.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Sun, 17 May 1998 23:15:30 -0700
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> There used to be a company called Edmund Scientific, if I recall
correctly,

They're still around, they're on the web, and yes, they have fresnel lenses:

 <http://www.edsci.com/industrial/positioning_products/optics.html#lenses>
http://www.edsci.com/industrial/positioning_products/optics.html#lenses

Unfortunately they don't have details (e.g., price) -- you have to order the
catalog.

-       Joe

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 09:37:44 -0400
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I had been getting no luck running wwwlx off an SRAM card in combination
with a modem in my doubleslot. Avi suggested several things and I tried =
many
of my own, but the cache and mail files refused to be kept on the SRAM =
card.
Comunication would stop as soon as the palmtop tried to write to the =
card.
Anyway, I installed a doubleseed crystal and the problem went away. I =
guess
the 200lx couldn't serve both cards fast enough through the doubleslot.
Thought I'd share that with anyone who had the same problem.

So order your speedup kits. Highly recommended and pretty easy to do. I'm =
a
lousy solderer and it only took me like 15 mins. Make sure you get a
magnifying glass, though!

Also, WWW/lx is a great browser, and with the doublespeed and lots of =
ram,
The graphics get handled real nice.

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I'd like to see something that lets me sync to a REX. 'Cause the 200LX is =
so
huge and difficult to lug around...

I think it would be cool to have a nice IRC client as an external for =
wwwlx.

A way to IR print from DOS apps,

A black and white version of Quake II  :)

We seem to have a need for a few to picks, then get some feedback from =
the
programmers to see what's doable. Then we ought to take a tally for most
popular.

Darren.

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Is anyone aware of a "standard", or at least "common" directory structure
for placing commands and utility programs in the 200LX (or any DOS computer,
for that matter).  I borrowed a technique that we used at work back in the
DOS days, where we created a UTIL and BATCH directory, to store binaries
and batch files, respectively.  I've since added a BIN directory, as many
programs seem to require/suggest this.  Anyway, it all has developed into
a big mess, with little/no organization.  How have others licked this
problem?


-Chris

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> Everyone has been talking about what software they would like to have =
for
> the LX so once again I would _love_ for someone to write a IRC client =
that
> would be designed just for use on the LX...
There are 2-3 DOS IRC clients, as well as other DOS-Internet stuff at

www.agate.net/~tvdog/interner.html

Cheers,

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> There used to be a company called Edmund Scientific, if I recall
> correctly, which sold all sorts of interesting gadgets.

I have their "optical Catalog". They do have Fresnel lenses in various
sizes. A "credit card" size runs about $1.60, a 5" x 5" runs about
$20-$30.

Cheers,

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On Mon, 18 May 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> Is anyone aware of a "standard", or at least "common" directory structure
> for placing commands and utility programs in the 200LX (or any DOS computer,
> for that matter).  I borrowed a technique that we used at work back in the
> DOS days, where we created a UTIL and BATCH directory, to store binaries
> and batch files, respectively.  I've since added a BIN directory, as many
> programs seem to require/suggest this.  Anyway, it all has developed into
> a big mess, with little/no organization.  How have others licked this
> problem?
>

Being a unix geek, I use a \bin directory in my path for common commands,
and an \etc directory for things I don't need in my path.  I also use
\etc\conf\* for backups of configuration files that I may need to change
in different scenarios.

I also mimic newsgroups in certain circumstances.  I have an \alt
directory that games and whatnot are under.

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A magnifier is OK for the road, but wouldn't it be better to connect a computer
screen to the HP200LX (no idea if technically possible) ? I feel the need for a
screen much more than for a larger keyboard as touchtyping isn't really a
problem on the 200LX.

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To me the problem is finding files and I use two tools:
1. A fast file find utility (there are about 20 of them on Simtel)
    I use one I found on Garbo:
          fasff360.zip    Fast file finder by D.Williams + al., with source
    It allows me to specify the drives to search, allows multiple arguments,
.....
2. My own directory shell Disk Navigator (dnav14.zip on Simtel).
    It shows multiple directories on the screen at one time and allows
    parameters at the DOS prompt launch (eg, specify three directories or
    wild card file specs). You can use "macros" on startup so you can
    restrict the search to say:  those directories on the PATH, those where
    I store text, those where downloads are stored,  .............

R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> Is anyone aware of a "standard", or at least "common" directory structure
> for placing commands and utility programs in the 200LX (or any DOS computer,
> for that matter).  I borrowed a technique that we used at work back in the
> DOS days, where we created a UTIL and BATCH directory, to store binaries
> and batch files, respectively.  I've since added a BIN directory, as many
> programs seem to require/suggest this.  Anyway, it all has developed into
> a big mess, with little/no organization.  How have others licked this
> problem?
>
> -Chris
>
> --
>
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> Huntsville, Alabama
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>A black and white version of Quake II  :)
>
>We seem to have a need for a few to picks, then get some feedback from the
>programmers to see what's doable. Then we ought to take a tally for most
>popular.

Call me a naysayer, but Quake II?  Don't hold your breath. :)

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What is MoonRock?
Rgds....Jim Johnson




Ian Butler <ianrb@CASPERS.NET> on 05/17/98 11:30:04 PM

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At 08:27 PM 5/17/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Everyone has been talking about what software they would like to have for
>the LX so once again I would _love_ for someone to write a IRC client that
>would be designed just for use on the LX. The CE guys have a IRC client
and
>I really think we should also :)

I hate to name names, but Rowan Crowe of MoonRock fame (so you never heard
of it either? ;) wrote an IRC client for DOS.  Also, if you register
NetTamer you'll get an IRC client too.  I don't know where the NetTamer
site is, but there's a link to it on SUPER.  The client written in MoonRock
can be had at rowan.sensation.net.au; btw, as long as you're there, you
should pick up MoonRock because it's great.



Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

"Hell, even 15 years ago software was crappy, arrogant, and slow.  But
diverse.  Now, things are starting to change.  Through a weird paranormal
flux, some people make stuff that WORKS.  You may not have noticed this,
but (shh! don't tell anyone!) Caldera's stuff (this is trade secret stuff,
y'know) -- INSTALLS CORRECTLY.  YES!  DR-DOS 7.02 runs right the _first
time_.  No one that hasn't had more than their share of frop knows that
someone messed up in QA.  I'll be surprised if Caldera doesn't fire them."
        - M'self, "So What if it Runs?"

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 12:55:13 -0700
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On Mon, 18 May 1998, Jim Johnson wrote:

> What is MoonRock?
> Rgds....Jim Johnson

It's a nifty BASIC-like programming language that's very powerful
(includes an inline assembler and all kinds of neat tricks like that).

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>Everyone has been talking about what software they would like to have for
>the LX so once again I would _love_ for someone to write a IRC client that
>would be designed just for use on the LX. The CE guys have a IRC client and
>I really think we should also :)
Well, for one thing, jpIRC on www.agate.com/~tvdog works fine on the LX. That's what I
got up and running on my palmtop. Hopefully, when I get the time this weekend, I will
dump my PMR page onto my site with the instructions for LXTCP, the 200LX 'net freebie.

To all the guys who mailed me their support, thanks. I have been busy with trying to
learn how to get a page online these few weeks, but I would like to thank you all for
supporting my stance. I hope my PMR page will go on well with you all, to be a
reference point in the likes of David Sargant's hardware page. Except mine is for
software and stuff.

To the wanted software, maybe a "universal Ethernet card" driver? or maybe a menu to
execute tcpip programs? (this is for pple using the LXTCP package.),

or maybe this, a win95/os/2/unix/mac/whatever UNREAD MAIL package maker.
Meaning what mail you have on your desktop that is marked unread, or in a folder, this
program will pack these into a mail file readable in PNR,  and you can read and reply
to these mails on the road. When you are done, the packer (most prob a TSR run b4
the loading of the PNR) ON the LX itself will send the stats back
(read/replied/forwarded) and sync with the main Desktop email package. I have been
needing this as I was getting too much mail on my desktop, with too little time at home
to reply, but since the LX is on me all the time, this can do quite a bit... Think of it as a
syncro program such as puma, except this is for email.
... It's OS/2, Jim, but not OS/2 as we know it.

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 19:37:38 +0200
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On Mon, 18 May 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> Is anyone aware of a "standard", or at least "common" directory structure
> for placing commands and utility programs in the 200LX (or any DOS computer,
> for that matter).  I borrowed a technique that we used at work back in the
> DOS days, where we created a UTIL and BATCH directory, to store binaries
> and batch files, respectively.  I've since added a BIN directory, as many
> programs seem to require/suggest this.  Anyway, it all has developed into
> a big mess, with little/no organization.  How have others licked this
> problem?

There is no standard under DOS, but most people use util, batch, or bin.

I doubt that any programs actually _require_ you to place the files in
\bin. The reason a lot of people suggest \bin is because it is standard
under Unix (and as far as I can tell, a lot of people on the list have
been exposed to Unix - and liked it). As long as you're consistent, which
directory you place the files in shouldn't make any difference.

I use \bin on the palmtop myself, but on my desktop (which I got prior to
using Unix) I use \batch. :-)


Regards,

Laust

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Me - I'll go for the PowerPoint viewer. What I miss on the
palmtop and have to drag around my laptop for is the ability
to do external LCD projector shows.

I gather that the new WinCe machines can do this. BTW, I don't
need colour :-)

Dave

PS I like the rest of Jorgen's shopping list too....


> I would love to see following programs on HP 200LX:
>
> * A MS Excel 97 viewer/converter (to Lotus 123).
> * A MS PowerPoint/Lotus Freelance viewer.
> * Sync with the REX card program.
> * A 3D action/shooting game such as Duke Nuke'm & Doom.
> * A good Pool Game specially designed for the 200LX.
> * A Visual EXM programming interface (as MS Visual Basic but for EXM).

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On Mon, 18 May 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> On Mon, 18 May 1998, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
> > What is MoonRock?
> > Rgds....Jim Johnson
>
> It's a nifty BASIC-like programming language that's very powerful
> (includes an inline assembler and all kinds of neat tricks like that).

Powerful commands, yes, but in other ways it is rather limited (you have
to split up your expressions for example).

It works quite well on the LX, if a little slow, and it makes small
executables. Quite handy for making small utilities (but IMO not much
else).

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 10:54:50 -0700
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> Well, for one thing, jpIRC on www.agate.com/~tvdog works fine on the LX. That's what I
> got up and running on my palmtop. Hopefully, when I get the time this weekend, I will
> dump my PMR page onto my site with the instructions for LXTCP, the 200LX 'net freebie.

Isn't jpIRC based on the Trumpet stack?  I would think LXTCP (being
written with WATTCP like Goin' Postal) would prefer a WATTCP-based
IRC client?

> or maybe this, a win95/os/2/unix/mac/whatever UNREAD MAIL package maker.

Not exactly a packer, but 2.XX Goin' Postal handles "leave on server",
"only new/unread", along with a headers-only mode and a filter rules file
which will automate the headers-only mode a bit.  Sounds sorta like it
would do a similar thing but using standard POP3.  It's in alpha test
right now, probably go to beta in a week or two.

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 15:53:32 +0200
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if you just want  email : I find Going Postal easy to use, to install (and
you may say I'm not very computer litterate), very reasonable price, with
handy features.Only"Leave mail on server "is not yet available,

Etienne Lemaire

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 03:03:50 +0000
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On Mon, 18 May 1998 10:54:50 -0700 (PDT), Steven Lawson wrote:

>> Well, for one thing, jpIRC on www.agate.com/~tvdog works fine on the LX. That's
what I
>> got up and running on my palmtop. Hopefully, when I get the time this weekend, I will
>> dump my PMR page onto my site with the instructions for LXTCP, the 200LX 'net
freebie.
>Isn't jpIRC based on the Trumpet stack?  I would think LXTCP (being
Yep, u just load the Trumpet TSR b4 u get the thing running, then unload it after u are
done.

>written with WATTCP like Goin' Postal) would prefer a WATTCP-based
>IRC client?
Nope, none of them WATTCP clients work nowadays; Most servers want an Ident
server running, and only jpIRC got that.

>> or maybe this, a win95/os/2/unix/mac/whatever UNREAD MAIL package maker.
>Not exactly a packer, but 2.XX Goin' Postal handles "leave on server",
>"only new/unread", along with a headers-only mode and a filter rules file
>which will automate the headers-only mode a bit.  Sounds sorta like it
>would do a similar thing but using standard POP3.  It's in alpha test
>right now, probably go to beta in a week or two.
No, u got my idea wrong. I don't care for any leave on server or stuff; I get my mail on
my system, and that is a pain to reply at home coz I am rarely home. What I mean is,
I got 10 unread mail in c:\os2\mail\unread.fld. This program gets them 10 message files
and compile it to a unread.fil or something, then I can transfer this to the palmtop, of
which UMP (Unread Mail Packer) TSR will unpack into the spool dir and I can
read/reply. All the actions that happen to the mails are logged, and a return.fil is
generated. This is then taken to the desktop, where the actions (like sent mail on the
palmtop will be moved to the send folder on my desktop) done are sync-ed with the
desktop. Get the idea now?
... It works fine except when I am in Windows.

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 12:15:17 -0700
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              Dennis Bell <dbell@WRQ.COM>
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Mitch-

A resetting of the counters is a great idea.  At the same time,
why not display download counts for *all* submissions to the SUPER
site.  You must be generating those counts all the time, so it
should be relatively easy to display them.  If there are those who
want to see the all time counts you could display them minimally
along the lines of:    82 (2/3/98) - 514 (1/1/96)

Thanks for your unflagging enthusiasm in maintaining SUPER.

Dennis Bell
Seattle

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 12:31:06 -0700
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On 05-18 06:53am, you wrote

> if you just want  email : I find Going Postal easy to use, to install (and
> you may say I'm not very computer litterate), very reasonable price, with
> handy features.Only"Leave mail on server "is not yet available,

Version 2 has this, and is currently in alpha test at three sites.  I
expect it to go to beta in a week or two.

Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.05alpha) REGISTERED

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Nothing as spectacular as everyone else is requesting: I would personally
like an all-in-one, DOS-based translator program that could handle all of
the various filetypes generated by the PIM software, 1-2-3, and Memo, and
output nice, generic CSV or somthing of the like. You know, completely
interfaceless, type C:\CONVERT FOO.BAR  and it would a) figure out what the
data is and then b) create an out file of the appropriate type. I'm tired
of having a half dozen different apps to do this and my programming skills
are dreadful. BASIC! LOGO! Pascal! <grimmace> Hell, I'd even register it if
it was functional shareware.

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 15:02:19 -0600
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I'll go ahead and put my two bits in: I'd like an external
program for WWW/LX with similiar functionality to a MOO/MUD.
Essentially this works out to be a slightly modified telnet
client.  The thing I would like is the ability to stack commands
for the next login.  Sort of an offline way to post to the lists
that occur on a MOO.  I find it very easy to live without one,
though. :)

The application I would most like to see/be most useful to me
would be a sync utility between the HP and Outlook.  My company
is going to go tooutlook some day.  I'm hoping it doesn't happen
because I'

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 16:13:03 -0500
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Hi, palmtoppers.
I am purging some computer stuff.  Let me know if you're interested.
Word Perfect 5.1, with box, manuals, 3.5" disks.  $10 plus shipping
(pretty heavy, I would say).
dBase II/III/III+ Advanced Programmers Guide.  Free for $3 shipping.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 18:00:52 -0400
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I would like to see a program that could take a .gdb or .pdb file that was
accidentally opened and re-saved in MEMO and salvage data from it in a
form that could be re-inserted into the database program.

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 18:04:30 -0400
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Can I do anaonymous FTP with HV and WWW/LX?

If not, I would like a *graphical* FTP program: like filer with split
windows, local on the left, remote on the right, and "copy" files each
way.

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 17:34:37 -0500
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This message is directed to the ham radio operator HP users in the crowd:

I went to the Dayton Hamvention this weekend and actually won something =
for the first time ever. I won an Alinco DJ-C1 2 meter transceiver. If =
you are not familiar with it, this is the one that is the size of a =
credit card with a membrane keypad. It has expanded RX so you can get the =
aircraft bands which is nice. Very cute.

As my luck would have it, I had JUST purchased a Yaesu VX-1R transceiver =
not 10 minutes before and was walking up to the grandstand to tinker with =
it when I noticed that my ticket had won. Bummer.

Well, maybe not. I figured that one of the hams on this list might want =
the Alinco as it would make a teensy packet station when combined with a =
Baycom and the HP.

If anyone is interested, please email me. The radio has not been out of =
the box. It has a long-life Li-Ion battery, a snap-in quick charger, an =
earbud mic, and a clear slipcase to protect the radio. Street price on =
these radios is $160; I will take $125 for it including the shipping.

Thanks!

Mitch

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On Mon, 18 May 1998 12:31:06 -0700, Steven Lawson wrote:

Going Postal

>Version 2 has this, and is currently in alpha test at three sites.  I
>expect it to go to beta in a week or two.

Yippee!!  You might just get my registration money instead of Avi at this
rate :-)

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 15:50:32 -0700
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Congrats on your win, Mitch!  I'd be interested in the radio, but I've
got more radios in my stable than I need right now... Besides, I'm not
on 2m that much anyway, I spend most of my time on 70cm.

You'll enjoy the VX-1R.  Check out http://www.icongrp.com/~sllewd for
the Unofficial VX-1R page.

Bill
KE6VVW



> This message is directed to the ham radio operator HP users in the =
crowd:
>
> I went to the Dayton Hamvention this weekend and actually won something
> for the first time ever. I won an Alinco DJ-C1 2 meter transceiver. If
> you are not familiar with it, this is the one that is the size of a
> credit card with a membrane keypad. It has expanded RX so you can get =
the
> aircraft bands which is nice. Very cute.
>
> As my luck would have it, I had JUST purchased a Yaesu VX-1R transceiver=

> not 10 minutes before and was walking up to the grandstand to tinker =
with
> it when I noticed that my ticket had won. Bummer.
>
> Well, maybe not. I figured that one of the hams on this list might want
> the Alinco as it would make a teensy packet station when combined with =
a
> Baycom and the HP.
>
> If anyone is interested, please email me. The radio has not been out of
> the box. It has a long-life Li-Ion battery, a snap-in quick charger, an
> earbud mic, and a clear slipcase to protect the radio. Street price on
> these radios is $160; I will take $125 for it including the shipping.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mitch
>
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Congrats!  You have just the opposite luck of me.  I'd notice my ticket
had won, drop the Yaesu in my excitement, run to gather my winnings and
find out the ticket I was looking at was for a movie I'd gone to see the
previous year (likely one that went to video within a week too!) :-)

The Alinco can't take packet can it?  I didn't see any connectors on
it.  Too bad it's soooo ugly.  They could have made it tiny and cute,
the thing looks like a miniturized Quantum disk drive. :-)

The radio I really want is the Kenwood TS-50 (or, dreaming even deeper,
the Icom IC-706MKII!)

> This message is directed to the ham radio operator HP users in the crowd:

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 23:24:31 -0000
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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193
Subject:      cc:mail and the 200LX

Pardon me if this has been discussed before and I missed it.  I own both
a 100LX and a 200LX, the latter being a double speed/8 meg RAM unit I
bought from thaddeus a few months ago.

Only today did I try to run cc:Mail on my 200LX.  I will now be required
to provide tech support for cc:Mail at my job so I thought I'd take a
look at it, never used it before.  Well, when I hit the cc:mail icon on
my 200LX, it brings up POCKET QUICKEN!  I'm not talking aobut the
shortcut key, I'm well aware they took that off the 200LX and made it
the Quicken key.
Anyway, cc:mail does work on my 100LX, which I no longer use, but how do
I get it to work on my 200LX?  Was this something I traded off when I
got my double speed mod?  TIA for any suggestions.

Jim

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 16:35:47 -0700
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Jim,
Did you copy all the files from your 100 to your 200?  If so, the
appmgr.dat file is what's messing you up, I think.  HP changed the
definition of the cc:mail key to the quicken key from the 100 to 200...
but the scancode is the same, I think.

Bill

> Well, when I hit the cc:mail icon on
> my 200LX, it brings up POCKET QUICKEN!  I'm not talking aobut the
> shortcut key, I'm well aware they took that off the 200LX and made it
> the Quicken key.
> Anyway, cc:mail does work on my 100LX, which I no longer use, but how =
do
> I get it to work on my 200LX?  Was this something I traded off when I
> got my double speed mod?  TIA for any suggestions.

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 01:17:18 -0000
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Subject:      Re: cc:mail and the 200LX

Bill,
-> Did you copy all the files from your 100 to your 200?  If so, the
-> appmgr.dat file is what's messing you up, I think.  HP changed the
-> definition of the cc:mail key to the quicken key from the 100 to
-> 200... but the scancode is the same, I think.

Yep I bet I did!  Any idea how I can get the original back without
re-initializing my drive c:?

Jim

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 21:30:39 -0400
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              Yujin Nagasawa <ynagasaw@IC.SUNYSB.EDU>
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Does anyone know what version of
Turbo PASCAL work on a 200LX?
I got Turbo PASCAL 7.0.
Does it works on 200LX?

Or is there any good free PASCAL
compiler?

Thank you in advance.
Yujin

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 18:57:57 -0700
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I'd try renaming the "bad" one to appmgr.bad then reboot.  I think the
LX will re-create the file.  You'll lose any apps you installed in
sysmgr, though.  (I think... I had a similar problem.  I think that's
how I solved it.)

Bill

> Bill,
> -> Did you copy all the files from your 100 to your 200?  If so, the
> -> appmgr.dat file is what's messing you up, I think.  HP changed the
> -> definition of the cc:mail key to the quicken key from the 100 to
> -> 200... but the scancode is the same, I think.
>
> Yep I bet I did!  Any idea how I can get the original back without
> re-initializing my drive c:?

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 21:20:52 -0500
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> why not display download counts for *all* submissions to the SUPER
> site.

Might be possible but would not be real time with the current method of =
page generation. I will have to talk with Peter about this...

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 21:21:28 -0500
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> The Alinco can't take packet can it?  I didn't see any connectors on
> it.  Too bad it's soooo ugly.

It should do packet just fine. As with most HTs, you have to interface =
through the mic/earphone plug. You can key the radio through that plug as =
I also have the 440 version of the Alinco and use a teeny speaker mic =
with it.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think it looks a lot like somethin=
g Felix would have handed Sean Connery in Thunderball. :)

Mitch

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 22:34:57 EDT
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              Cavendishl <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
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Mitch -- You saic,

>>Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think it looks a lot like something
Felix would have handed Sean Connery in Thunderball. :) <<

Hum.  James would get it from Felix Liter, the American spy, rather than from
Q, the British armour.  Presumably Q would have had something smoother.

   8)

lynn m CAVENDISH

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 22:36:31 -0400
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   Recently I posted about a date bug in registered WWW-LX Plus.  Eleven =
people mailed me privately and one response from D&A came.  Here is what =
I learned.
   1) All registered WWW-LX 2.0 users go to demo mode when the system =
date goes to July 1, 1998 or after.
   2) Two messages I recieved say that D&A did this intentionally and has =
known about it for a month or so now, but D&A did not say anything to me =
so I do not know for sure.
   3) D&A's only comment was:

> From: <garzNOSPAM@iprolink.ch>
> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:57:52 +0200
> Subject: Re: Bad Bug in WWW-LX

> DB> What should I do?

> Very simple: set it to the *current* date instead of a future date.
>
> Andreas D&A

   Unfortunately other than this one snide response D&A does not give any =
explanation WHY they would INTENTIONALLY put in a date block for REGISTERE=
D users.
   What will happen to registered users in a month?
   I suppose that D&A will mail out new versions to all registered users? =
 Since downloading a fix may not work for some peoples.
   Please, D&A, tell us who have paid for you otherwise great program!

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 22:36:41 -0400
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              Nedim Cholich <nedim@ATHENS.NET>
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I'm using Turbo Pascal 6.0. It works great. I'm not sure if 7.0 works on 200LX. I can see why it shouldn't work if it includes 16 bit version of compiler. IDE may not work, or it may be too slow. But compiler should, really. There are couple of free Pascal compilers (try simtel) but none of them are near as good as TP.

Nedim.

At 09:30 PM 5/18/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Does anyone know what version of
>Turbo PASCAL work on a 200LX?
>I got Turbo PASCAL 7.0.
>Does it works on 200LX?
>
>Or is there any good free PASCAL
>compiler?
>
>Thank you in advance.
>Yujin

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 20:43:35 -0700
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Just picked up a ~2"x6" plastic magnifier/bookmark $2 at the Borders book &
music store
in the Arrowhead Shopping Center, Glendale,AZ...nr Phoenix.
72/73 Floyd NQ7X  M/NQ7X       Phoenix ScQRPion   DM33uq  QRP-L 343
ARRL AMSAT ARCI G-QRP 8952  NORCAL   DX WRKD HF=324 SAT=101 QRP=130

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 10:40:07 -700
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              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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Sorry folks, I know that my question has nothing to do on this list but I
have to start somewhere.
From a friend I inherited an Epson LQ 850+ printer. Has some body on this
list an obsolete manual for this printer or can somebody help me out with the
dip switch settings? Answers please of list and direct to me.
Be nice to your kids.  They'll choose your nursing home.

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 21:16:30 -0700
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I am having problems getting the set of programs from Ron up and running.
I've tried tinkering with both his and Tom Hoover's config files (which
they most generously offered up to the list here), but can't seem to get
the PPP connection to start. Everything seems to go smoothly with both
setups til the PPP thing is supposed to happen. Then I am told that it
didn't happen and that the driver was not loaded. The applettes that come
in the LXTCP package, of course, can't do anything then.

I have used only two internet programs with my ISP ( a local one in
Oregon called PEAK.ORG). I use IE v3.02 on my desktop and I have
experimented with Net-Tamer v1.1 on my palmtop. Both were easy to setup.
IE doesn't even us a script. Net-Tamer's script is all of:
----------
delay 10
PPP
----------
I emailed my ISP and they knew nothing concerning this software, but gave
me a script for the Win3.x version of the Shiva. It is as follows:
----------
proc main
        delay 2
        transmit "M"
        transmit "M"
        waitfor "-=>"
        transmit "ppp"
        transmit "M"
endproc
----------
my pppdrc.cfg file that I have been using (and I presume this is where my
problem lies) is:
----------
COM2
38400
IRQ 3
MODEM
CRTSCTS
ASYNCMAP 0
CONNECT "CHAT -V -R PPPDCONN.LST -F CHATSCR"
USER ####
PASSWD ####
NAMSRV 198.68.23.27
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Any ideas?

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)


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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 00:35:27 -0400
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Is there a way to create an alarm-TSR that could test to see how long the
palmtop has been turned off, and if over a number of hours, automatically
lock the palmtop with the system password?

That is, what interrupts does the system password (PASSWORD /A in DOS) use?
 Can it hook into the alarms?

I'm not a programmer, so if someone thinks this is easy, that would be a
nice security feature.

Thanks.
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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 00:40:29 -0400
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Dan Brooks <dbrooks@PSICORPS.COM> wrote:

> 1) All registered WWW-LX 2.0 users go to demo mode when the system
> date goes to July 1, 1998 or after.
> 2) Two messages I recieved say that D&A did this intentionally and has
> known about it for a month or so now

Interesting.  So if D&A did actually put in this date-thing intentionally,
isn't that considered unfair business practice?

Nah -- D&A wouldn't do that; it must be a bug.  After all, we have Avi's
word that he treats all software transactions with the utmost attention to
ethics.

Isn't that right, Avi?

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 23:30:47 -0500
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I'm interested in trading a Zenith 386 notebook computer for a 200LX or
possibly some amateur radio equipment (HT). If anyone is interested please
send me private email, 'cause I've already wasted valuable bandwith with
this message.

Jeff


    *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
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    |Email: jeffj@scott.net   Urgent AlphaPager Email: pagejeff@scott.net|
    |QTH: Birmingham, Alabama USA ------ Posted via an HP200LX Palmtop PC|
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Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.04alpha) REGISTERED

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 09:35:43 +1200
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> From: Samuel Lightcap <Samuel.Lightcap@MAIL.TJU.EDU>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Software requests
> Date: Tuesday, 19 May 1998 08:50
>
> Nothing as spectacular as everyone else is requesting: I would personally
> like an all-in-one, DOS-based translator program that could handle all of
> the various filetypes generated by the PIM software, 1-2-3, and Memo, and
> output nice, generic CSV or somthing of the like. You know, completely
> interfaceless, type C:\CONVERT FOO.BAR  and it would a) figure out what
the
> data is and then b) create an out file of the appropriate type. I'm tired
> of having a half dozen different apps to do this and my programming
skills
> are dreadful. BASIC! LOGO! Pascal! <grimmace> Hell, I'd even register it
if
> it was functional shareware.

All the built-in PIM apps can print to file in nice, generic csv format.
Use the
SmartClip feature to set this up. You can have several different versions,
say
one with just commas, another with commas and quotes, another with a
special
end of record delimiter like "|" (Pipe)

123 can print to file, then open in memo and format to your heart's
content.

Alternatively, get the Connectivity pack...

HTH

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Date:         Mon, 18 May 1998 23:48:19 -0600
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              Carol <cmb@TOTACC.COM>
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I have searched everywhere I can think of for information on alternative
fonts for the HP 200.  I have downloaded  fontstuff.zip and unzipped it.
Now I don't know what to do.  I fear everyone is yawning at this point, but
I would appreciate some direction.

Also, I can't seem to find hdays.adb at the s.u.p.e.r. site.  Maybe it's
just late.

Thank you,

Carol


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Carol:

Look at the lxfont.doc that's part of the fontstuff.zip for more precise
instructions but this is it more or less: Just put the font , e.g. lxfont.com,
on your c: drive and include a line in your autoexec.bat somwhere before the
"200" line that states the font filename (lxfont.com in our example).  Save
autoexec, reboot and hopefully you'll be seeing the new font.  Also, check out
the fcldl program included with the fontstuff.zip for a way to change fonts on
the fly.

Hit the link on the top of the S.U.P.E.R. webpage marked "Database" et voila,
you'll find "holidays.zip" and a lot of other useful databases.

HTH
Ed

Carol wrote:

> I have searched everywhere I can think of for information on alternative
> fonts for the HP 200.  I have downloaded  fontstuff.zip and unzipped it.
> Now I don't know what to do.  I fear everyone is yawning at this point, but
> I would appreciate some direction.
>
> Also, I can't seem to find hdays.adb at the s.u.p.e.r. site.  Maybe it's
> just late.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Carol

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I'm sure many of us split our mail & news reading between the palmtop and
desktop...
Nicholas Chan mentioned a need for syncing e-mail to the desktop to be =
able
to get his unread mail off the desktop and reply to it on the road and =
then
sync back to the desktop.

This would be great as a dial-up solution, too.
I would like this, but with newsgroup syncing as well. Sometimes I don't
check the news that often on the palmtop and the messages really pile up. =
I
might get a couple hundred messages which fills up the 200LX, and they're
posts I've already read. I dont want to have to remember the last message
read on my desktop and then modify post before getting a group.
This would be a useful mini-app on it's own for me...



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> Can I do anaonymous FTP with HV and WWW/LX?
>
> If not, I would like a *graphical* FTP program: like filer with split
> windows, local on the left, remote on the right, and "copy" files each
> way.
>
We do have ftp under www/lx, but it's a CLI. Now, I prefer a CLI for many
file operations, but when dealing with 2 different directories and =
updating
web pages, trying to maintain some semblence of version control, etc.
nothing beats the 2-window FTP. I kind of like the 200LX file manager. It
has remote server type operation - Could a patch be written to make File
Manager work over a dial up TCP connection, or make a prog that looks =
like
fileman for ftp.

That would be kewl.

Darren.

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Nothing sinister about this: We are working on it. Meanwhile,
please use the current date. What's snide about it? I don't
get it.

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Hello Jim:

> Can I do anaonymous FTP with HV and WWW/LX?

Yes. but you'll have to spell it correctly :-)

> If not, I would like a *graphical* FTP program: like filer with split
> windows, local on the left, remote on the right, and "copy" files each
> way.

If anyone wants to write it, great! It is a huge amount of
work. So far I had three or four interested parties who backed
off after looking closely at the job.

  Avi M. D&A

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On Tue, 19 May 1998, A. Meshar wrote:

> Nothing sinister about this: We are working on it. Meanwhile,
> please use the current date. What's snide about it? I don't
> get it.

It's probably a side-effect of the Y2K bug - people begin to feel worried
whenever a piece of software has problems after a certain date :-)


Regards,

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> Is there a way to create an alarm-TSR that could test to see how long =
the
> palmtop has been turned off, and if over a number of hours, automaticall=
y
> lock the palmtop with the system password?

Along with the hundreds of other features, Buddy will do this. You set it =
in the Global Preferences screen right under the checkbox for "Blow up =
the machine on cold boot". Really.

Mitch

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I recently upgraded from an HP100 to a HP200 with 32meg. It eliminated any
desire to look at CE palmtops.
I also noticed a few pleasant differences on the HP200. One is the "Today's
Items of interest" screen that pops up first thing when I turn the unit on
each day. I like the concise organization of Appointments and ToDo items on
one screen. It looks like the datacard  in the Phone Datatbase. Is it
possible to bring up the same screen more than once?

Jerome Rosman

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Nedim Cholich wrote:
>
> I'm using Turbo Pascal 6.0. It works great. I'm not sure if 7.0 works on 200LX. I can see why it shouldn't work if it includes 16 bit version of compiler. IDE may not work, or it may be too slow. But compiler should, really. There are couple of free Pascal compilers (try simtel) but none of them are near as good as TP.
>
> Nedim.
>
> At 09:30 PM 5/18/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >Does anyone know what version of
> >Turbo PASCAL work on a 200LX?
> >I got Turbo PASCAL 7.0.
> >Does it works on 200LX?
> >
> >Or is there any good free PASCAL
> >compiler?
> >
> >Thank you in advance.
> >Yujin
>
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TP 7.0 should work fine, the 95/100/200lx are all 16 bit platforms.

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I am interested if it will run on the Palmtop.   I heard that it would.
What do you need to send it to me?


-----Original Message-----
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Monday, May 18, 1998 5:22 PM
Subject: A couple of cheap/free things...


>Hi, palmtoppers.
>I am purging some computer stuff.  Let me know if you're interested.
>Word Perfect 5.1, with box, manuals, 3.5" disks.  $10 plus shipping
>(pretty heavy, I would say).
>dBase II/III/III+ Advanced Programmers Guide.  Free for $3 shipping.
>
>Cheers.
>J. P. Grenert
>grenert@mayo.edu
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At 07:34 AM 5/19/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I recently upgraded from an HP100 to a HP200 with 32meg. It eliminated any
>desire to look at CE palmtops.
>I also noticed a few pleasant differences on the HP200. One is the "Today's
>Items of interest" screen that pops up first thing when I turn the unit on
>each day. I like the concise organization of Appointments and ToDo items on
>one screen. It looks like the datacard  in the Phone Datatbase. Is it
>possible to bring up the same screen more than once?
>
>Jerome Rosman
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Yes,
download GREET from the SUPER page at http://www.palmtop.net/super.html




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HP200LX: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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On Tue, May 19, 1998 at 07:34:41AM -0400, Jerome D. Rosman wrote:
> I recently upgraded from an HP100 to a HP200 with 32meg. It eliminated any
> desire to look at CE palmtops.
> I also noticed a few pleasant differences on the HP200. One is the "Today's
> Items of interest" screen that pops up first thing when I turn the unit on
> each day. I like the concise organization of Appointments and ToDo items on
> one screen. It looks like the datacard  in the Phone Datatbase. Is it
> possible to bring up the same screen more than once?
>
> Jerome Rosman

If you are running Buddy, hit Fn-*.  Hmmm...  Is there anything that
Buddy *DOESN'T* do?

jaime
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In-Reply-To:  <355E77FA.1E58@21century.com.au> from "Alex Baker" at May 17,
              98 03:39:06 pm
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> Gilles Kohl has kindly got in contact with me.
>
> Thanks to all who helped me.

Alex:

I noticed that in all the discussion on VR registration, no one
mentioned how to actually register with Gilles now that he apparently
has a new e-mail address.  Is this a secret, or just an oversight?
I would love to re-register and get this newer version of VR.

If he permits it, would you please post the registration information
on the mailing list for all to take advantage of?

Thanks,

-Chris Lott


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              98 01:29:22 am
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Oops.... I must have missed this message - Gilles contact information
*was* clearly posted on the list for all to see.  Sorry I missed it.
(And I found it just 2 minutes after I sent the previous message...)

-Chris


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Is there any DISADVANTAGE to running Buddy?
TIA
Jez

>
>  Hmmm...  Is there anything that Buddy *DOESN'T* do?
>
>  jaime

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Item Subject: Re: VR Registration/Gilles Kohl
You R a CLOTT aren't you!


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Date:    19/05/98 14:55


Oops.... I must have missed this message - Gilles contact information
*was* clearly posted on the list for all to see.  Sorry I missed it.
(And I found it just 2 minutes after I sent the previous message...)

-Chris

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Subject:      Re: Acoustic Coupler...
In-Reply-To:  <9805171719.ZM11958@wisdom.palmtop.net> from "Mitchell B. Hamm"
              at May 17, 98 05:19:23 pm
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> I can't vouch for how well they work, but Port has one listed on their web shop
> that sounds pretty nice. They are at http://www.port.com. They also carry other
> neat connectivity hardware including an all-in-one foreign travel pack.

I just received my acoustic coupler in the morning delivery.  I plan to
try it out on my upcoming vacation.  I have a cell phone, and the
manual (such as it is) suggests that cell phone operation is possible.
Does anyone have experience with this?

-Chris

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Sorry. My mistake. I know 200LX is 16bit platform. What I meant to say is: it should work if the package includes 16bit compiler as well. At some point Borland started shipping only 32bit versions. My 6.0 has both, but I'm not sure about 7.0.

Sorry for misunderstanding.

Nedim.

At 06:55 AM 5/19/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Nedim Cholich wrote:
>>
>> I'm using Turbo Pascal 6.0. It works great. I'm not sure if 7.0 works on 200LX. I can see why it shouldn't work if it includes 16 bit version of compiler. IDE may not work, or it may be too slow. But compiler should, really. There are couple of free Pascal compilers (try simtel) but none of them are near as good as TP.
>>
>> Nedim.
>>
>> At 09:30 PM 5/18/98 -0400, you wrote:
>> >Does anyone know what version of
>> >Turbo PASCAL work on a 200LX?
>> >I got Turbo PASCAL 7.0.
>> >Does it works on 200LX?
>> >
>> >Or is there any good free PASCAL
>> >compiler?
>> >
>> >Thank you in advance.
>> >Yujin
>>
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>TP 7.0 should work fine, the 95/100/200lx are all 16 bit platforms.

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Jez Cunningham wrote:
>
> Is there any DISADVANTAGE to running Buddy?
> TIA

The only real disadvantage is the ~50K of conventional memory it takes up.
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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 09:44:34 -0500
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I am wondering if anyone has had any success with printing to a UNIX
print spooler through a serial line. My Linux machine print spools for
anything sent locally and for anything it receives from the windows
machines on the ethernet and from authorized clients on the internet.
The latter two it does using Samba daemons which set up my HP 5MP as a
windows shared resource.

I would like to print through the serial port of my HP using the
Laserjet setting and have the print spooler just grab that file and
pass the PCL right to the printer. (I assume that the 200LX sends PCL.)

Anyone know how this might be done?

Mitch
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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 09:52:19 -0500
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On the topic of acoustic couplers...

I have a Tandy AC-4 acoustic coupler modem for sale for $20 + shipping.
Comes with orginal box, instructions, and power supply.  I figured
someone might want it for a collectors piece, but if you are willing to
torture yourself with a bulky slow modem (300 baud), it works great.
See a picture at:

   http://www.telepath.com/pillar/gif/ac.gif

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 23:18:02 +0800
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> Is there any DISADVANTAGE to running Buddy?
> TIA
> Jez

Yes, deffinately- it takes 46 Kb of your program memory and that's rather
much when you only have 640 Kb to play with. But if you don't have many
other TRS's or memory hungry programs, then it should be ok.

Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 11:25:16 -0400
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You need to have a process that listens to the port and writes all
received bytes to a file. You'll need to determine how an end-of-job is
sent by the HP in order to stop writing the file. You can also implement
a time-out. Once the file is written, you can print it to the HP but use
a printer interface file that sends raw output to the printer.

The above would require some programming in Perl or C so you might also
try using the dd command which copies raw data. You can use the command
"dd if={serial port connected to hp} of={parallel port of printer}".
This should forward all bytes from the serial port straight to the
printer. Of course, it will interfere with properly spooled jobs.

I haven't tried this stuff, so it my be total trash. (That's why it's
only .02$ worth :-))


                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Mitchell Hamm mailto:mitch@PALMTOP.NET
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                Subject:        HPLX-L Printing to lpr

                I am wondering if anyone has had any success with
printing to a UNIX
                print spooler through a serial line. My Linux machine
print spools for
                anything sent locally and for anything it receives from
the windows
                machines on the ethernet and from authorized clients on
the internet.
                The latter two it does using Samba daemons which set up
my HP 5MP as a
                windows shared resource.

                I would like to print through the serial port of my HP
using the
                Laserjet setting and have the print spooler just grab
that file and
                pass the PCL right to the printer. (I assume that the
200LX sends PCL.)

                Anyone know how this might be done?

                Mitch
                S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 17:54:36 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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On Tue, 19 May 1998, Mitchell Hamm wrote:

> I would like to print through the serial port of my HP using the
> Laserjet setting and have the print spooler just grab that file and
> pass the PCL right to the printer. (I assume that the 200LX sends PCL.)
>
> Anyone know how this might be done?

Hmm. I read something about this once (probably have a text file about it
somewhere...). If only I could remember where.

Anyway, you should be able to redirect the output from the serial port to
the printer by doing:

cat < /dev/cua0 > /dev/lp1       (guessing, but the idea should be right)

But obviously this is not what you want as it bypasses the spooler...


I'll see if I can find the original reference.


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 09:58:46 -0500
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Dip switches were generally used to set the character
set for the country in which the printer was used.
So the end user didn't fuss with them. Hopefully yours
are still set to the default for your country. Some printers
will print out the dip switch setting if you hold down the
form feed and/or line feed buttons when you power on.

The usual way to control the printer was to tell the word
processor what printer you are using and use its GUI
for your document. If you aren't using a Word proccssor
there are usually some panel switchs which can be very
confusing, even with the manual (eg Panasonics).
Thankfully, you can ignore them as many utilities have
been written to send commands to the printer.
Most printers ("letter quality" thru modern printers) have
an "epson compatibility mode" which accepts command codes
for choices like draft/letter quality, number of character per line,
lines per inch, and alternate graphic character sets.
I wrote a DOS command line utility that is easy to use and
allows you to set 15+ options. Its still in the Garbo collection
(epmode1.zip). Or I can send you the 10K zip as an E-mail attachment.



Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

> >From a friend I inherited an Epson LQ 850+ printer. Has some body on this
> list an obsolete manual for this printer or can somebody help me out with the
> dip switch settings?

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 11:28:08 -0500
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              kilgore@PYLON.PILLAR.COM
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> Anyway, you should be able to redirect the output from the serial port to
> the printer by doing:
>
> cat < /dev/cua0 > /dev/lp1       (guessing, but the idea should be right)

This is definitely the poor mans method, but it does work.  Just make
sure that your serial port speeds are set appropriately on the HP and
the cua device.

I too would like to see a daemon to monitor the port and spool it to the
printer.  Also a one shot program that would monitor input and exit
after one file has been spooled could be useful.  As someone else
mentioned, you would probably need to set a timeout for the end of
input. Though I wonder if the HP raises any useful hardware lines during
print...

To add to want list, why not add file locking to the hypothetical LX
spooler daemon and add file locking to lxtools (I am assuming it does
not).  So that you can run both on the same port.

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 12:18:31 -0500
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I have finally given up on using Memo for message composition in
POST/LX and am now using PalEdit like most others are. Unfortunately, I
am having withdrawal symptoms now that I no longer have access to the
SmartCaps feature in Buddy.

I would like to incorporate some of Buddy's features into PalEdit using
macros or some other method, but don't really know how to go about it.
Here are the features that are missing:

  -capitalize the first word of a sentence
  -capitalize all instances of "I"
  -double-click to capitalize the first letter of a word
  -words that start with a period are all caps, i.e., .post/lx->POST/LX
  -keys can be configured to give their shifted characters without
   hitting shift; helpful for all the punctuation marks

Has anyone implemented any of these features through macro wizardry?

Mitch
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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 10:23:26 -0700
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Chris Lott asks:

Is anyone aware of a "standard", or at least "common" directory structure?


Another consideration about DOS files is that, on a normal drive (not
stacked), files space is allocated in 512 byte sectors; so no matter how
small your file is, it takes at least half a KB.  If you have a large
number of small files (like .bat files tend to be) you should put them
in a directory on a stacked drive and put that directory in the path.

Just trying to save your precious c: drive space.  (unless you are one
of the happy 32MB folks for whom this whole note is irrelevant).

Dennis Bell
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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 10:25:49 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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For anybody looking 4MB 200LX just fond this one on the news wire.

Good Luck!

--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "Dan Smith" <dsmith10@erols.com>
Subject: FS: HP 200LX 4MB (Exc. Cond)
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 22:18:46 -0400

HP 200LX 4MB version (Excellent Condition w/Original Box)  200.00
10MB Flashdisk  50.00
Connectivity Kit   15.00
14.4 Megahertz Modem  10.00

275.00

If interested please respond via email and provide
date and time for possible audioconference.

dsmith10@erols.com



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Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 12:33:02 -0500
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On Mon, 18 May 1998, Floyd Smithberg wrote:

> Just picked up a ~2"x6" plastic magnifier/bookmark $2 at the Borders
> book & music store  ...nr Phoenix.


Okay, I'll bite.  How's it work?

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 13:17:01 -0500
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On Mon, 18 May 1998 11:15:31 -0500, Stan Peters articulated...

>To me the problem is finding files and I use two tools:
>1. A fast file find utility (there are about 20 of them on Simtel)
>    I use one I found on Garbo:
>          fasff360.zip    Fast file finder by D.Williams + al., with source
>    It allows me to specify the drives to search, allows multiple arguments,

Also, this simple batch file will do:

@ECHO OFF
CLS
ECHO LOOKING FOR %1
FOR %%d IN (C) DO DIR %%d:\%1 /S /P /b

I certainly didn't write it, got it from Battips. GDB I believe.  You can add
drives in the (C) part, but not sure what the format is.  Not as cool as a FF
util, but still easy and fast.

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I've just installed Win 2.03 and since I've never toyed with Windows very
much, I'm not having much luck using it.

I can do simple stuff, opening windows applications, moving/resizing/closing,
etc, but:

Any way to change directory besides going through the menus?  (Perhaps just
due to the old version)

*Surely* DOS applications can be opened through Windows, right???  Every time
I try it says that "Windows cannot run standard applications under OS/2"
(OS/2?)  It's not very useful (for me anyway) if it can't run anything besides
Windows apps.. :)

What's the name of the TSR that allows you to turn the palmtop off under
Windows?  I've searched everywhere and can't locate it.

Last, anyone know of a site that has documenation on such an old version?  Try
a Yahoo search on Windows.. :)

Thanks!!

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On 1998-05-19 speters@kdsi.net said:
 sp>Dip switches were generally used to set the character
 sp>set for the country in which the printer was used.
 sp>So the end user didn't fuss with them. Hopefully yours
 sp>are still set to the default for your country. Some printers
 sp>will print out the dip switch setting if you hold down the
 sp>form feed and/or line feed buttons when you power on.
 sp>The usual way to control the printer was to tell the word
 sp>processor what printer you are using and use its GUI
 sp>for your document. If you aren't using a Word proccssor
 sp>there are usually some panel switchs which can be very
 sp>confusing, even with the manual (eg Panasonics).
 sp>Thankfully, you can ignore them as many utilities have
 sp>been written to send commands to the printer.
 sp>Most printers ("letter quality" thru modern printers) have
 sp>an "epson compatibility mode" which accepts command codes
 sp>for choices like draft/letter quality, number of character per line,
 sp>lines per inch, and alternate graphic character sets.
 sp>I wrote a DOS command line utility that is easy to use and
 sp>allows you to set 15+ options. Its still in the Garbo collection
 sp>(epmode1.zip). Or I can send you the 10K zip as an E-mail
 sp>attachment.
 sp>Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
 sp>> >From a friend I inherited an Epson LQ 850+ printer. Has some
 sp>>body on this  list an obsolete manual for this printer or can
 sp>>somebody help me out with the  dip switch settings?
If you could send me the above mentioned zip file I would be grateful.
The problem which I have is that I think the printer was used with french
characters and I am using us english. Furthermore there must be a dip switch
for the page format. I am using A4 (because I got a whole bunch of paper
from another friend who left the country (before the turmoil here in
Indonesia) and from the print outs i have the feeling that it is dip
switched for 11" paper. Would your command line utility also solve that
problem? Thank in advance.
When you open WINDOWS, you let BUGS in!

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 11:31:56 -0700
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              Joe Barrera <joebar@MICROSOFT.COM>
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> Okay, I'll bite.  How's it work?

 <http://acept.la.asu.edu/PiN/rdg/fresnel/fresnel.shtml>
http://acept.la.asu.edu/PiN/rdg/fresnel/fresnel.shtml has a nice visual
explanation. Here is the accompanying text:

During the height of the Shipping Age in the 18th century, France was
looking for a way to make new lighthouses along the coast of Normandy and
Brittany. The lenses that were used in the lighthouses were huge pieces of
glass that were both bulky and expensive. In 1748, Georges de Buffon
realized that only one side of a lens is needed to bend light. In fact, only
the outer surface of the lens is needed. Why do we only need the surface to
bend the light?

de Buffon cut away the inside of the lens and left rings with edges on the
outside. Later, Augustin Fresnel modified this idea and the modern Fresnel
lens was created. His lenses were first used on the French coast as a
lightweight and less-expensive alternative to the old, bulky lighthouse
lenses.

Below is a schematic cut-away diagram showing how a Fresnel lens is made.

- Joe

Joseph S. Barrera III
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Mitch,
Try going into Buddy setup and click on the DOS checkbox for SmartCaps.
 That should enable SmartCaps for Paledit, and all other DOS apps.

Bill


>   -capitalize the first word of a sentence
>   -capitalize all instances of "I"
>   -double-click to capitalize the first letter of a word
>   -words that start with a period are all caps, i.e., .post/lx->POST/LX
>   -keys can be configured to give their shifted characters without
>    hitting shift; helpful for all the punctuation marks
>
> Has anyone implemented any of these features through macro wizardry?
>
>

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 14:41:42 -0400
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Floyd,
How do you like the magnifier from Borders?
Is it worth the purchase?
Ken Moore

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Laust:

> On Tue, 19 May 1998, A. Meshar wrote:
>
> > Nothing sinister about this: We are working on it. Meanwhile,
> > please use the current date. What's snide about it? I don't
> > get it.
>
> It's probably a side-effect of the Y2K bug - people begin to feel =
worried
> whenever a piece of software has problems after a certain date :-)

Yes, I see. This problem was discovered by someone testing
this, then testing every date in between <g>... It'll be
fixed.

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Thanks Ed and Steven and everyone else.  I've done it and am in love with
this thing all over again!  So cool.

Carol

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Many thanks to all for the ideas. I will try to summarize them when I
have half an hour to spare. My first impression, though, is that my
programming skills are very far from adequate to some of the
applications needed. It seems that programming has moved along from the
days of my (first edition) Kernighan and Ritchie ("The C Programming
Language"), and some new skills would be needed before tackling
soemthing like an Excel97 viewer, for example.

On the other hand, the palmtops are a computing environment where lean
programming may still be useful - I was very impressed by the PAL
package, which (if I understand its author's philosophy) tries to avoid
some new additions to C/C++ in order to remain compatible with older,
smaller compilers producing smaller executables.

On that point, I noticed that compiling the PAL sample program AMGRDUMP
with Borland Turbo C 2.0 produced an .EXE of only 16K, while compiling
with Borland C++ 4.5 gave an .EXE of well over 60K. It is not quite
clear to me if the newer compilers can actually be tuned to give
executables as small as the older compilers?

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 17:34:51 -0400
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C++ code *will* compile to much bigger executable than pure C. It's because of the ++ stuff. Have you every tried to disassemble compiled C program, and the same program compiled with C++ compiler? With C, actual end of your program is the end of machine code generated by compiler, which is usually not the case with C++. Unless you plan on moving to Windows development, you should be much happier with pure C than C++. But that's my personal opinion (to avoid new language war). Even better, go for Turbo Pascal! Clean, lean and fast!

Lean programming will always be a virtue. Even on huge GUI platforms, like Windows (anybody seen source of Netscape Communicator - unleashed ~ *500Mb*, 45 minutes to compile!).

Excel and alike have proprietary formats, which are often not available to the public (I'm not sure about Excel in particular). So the only way would be to "hack" the format, which is not what every programmer is comfortable with.

BTW: are there any Turbo Pascal programmers on the list that used PAL? Any input on that would be appreciated? I was planing on doing some stuff with PAL and TP, but never found time. I could use a kickstart.

Nedim.

At 11:12 PM 5/19/98 +0200, you wrote:
>Many thanks to all for the ideas. I will try to summarize them when I
>have half an hour to spare. My first impression, though, is that my
>programming skills are very far from adequate to some of the
>applications needed. It seems that programming has moved along from the
>days of my (first edition) Kernighan and Ritchie ("The C Programming
>Language"), and some new skills would be needed before tackling
>soemthing like an Excel97 viewer, for example.
>
>On the other hand, the palmtops are a computing environment where lean
>programming may still be useful - I was very impressed by the PAL
>package, which (if I understand its author's philosophy) tries to avoid
>some new additions to C/C++ in order to remain compatible with older,
>smaller compilers producing smaller executables.
>
>On that point, I noticed that compiling the PAL sample program AMGRDUMP
>with Borland Turbo C 2.0 produced an .EXE of only 16K, while compiling
>with Borland C++ 4.5 gave an .EXE of well over 60K. It is not quite
>clear to me if the newer compilers can actually be tuned to give
>executables as small as the older compilers?
>
>John Allen

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Folks,

My hp200lx screen has started wrapping the right hand 1/4 inch around to
the far left of the screen.  Picture is clear and everything but just
shifted left 1/4 inch.

Display test reports "OK".

Ideas?

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On Tue, 19 May 1998, Patrick West wrote:

> Folks,
>
> My hp200lx screen has started wrapping the right hand 1/4 inch around to
> the far left of the screen.  Picture is clear and everything but just
> shifted left 1/4 inch.
> Display test reports "OK".
> Ideas?

Do you have a doublespeed machine?  If so, that sounds like the symptom of
your speed driver not being loaded.  Check to make sure:

DEVICE=C:\SPD31.SYS

is in your config.sys file, and that SPD31.SYS is in C:\ or alternatively
try running SPD31C.COM.


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TP7 works fine.  I've used it for a couple of contracts.

> Does anyone know what version of
> Turbo PASCAL work on a 200LX?
> I got Turbo PASCAL 7.0.
> Does it works on 200LX?

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>> Just picked up a ~2"x6" plastic magnifier/bookmark $2 at the Borders
>> book & music store  ...nr Phoenix.
>
OK, but requires holding 2-3 inches from the screen...inconvenient...like my
Walgreens
$7.99 clip-on/flip-up 3+ magnifiers for my tri-focals better


>
72/73 Floyd NQ7X  M/NQ7X       Phoenix ScQRPion   DM33uq  QRP-L 343
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>> Okay, I'll bite.  How's it work?
>
OK, but inconvenient...have to hold it 2-3 inches from the screen. Does
cover the whole
screen tho.>
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On Tue, 19 May 1998, David Sargeant wrote:
> Do you have a doublespeed machine?  If so, that sounds like the symptom of
> your speed driver not being loaded.  Check to make sure:

I purchased it used and last week messed up and ran the both sets of
bateries down at the same time.  I lost the ram disk and had to restore
from backup.
I hadn't made a full backup just backed up my own stuff. I have spent the
last week reloading stuff.

I don't have a copy of spd31.sys or I'd try it to see if that is the
cause.
Where could I find it or SPD31C.COM ?


>
> DEVICE=C:\SPD31.SYS
>
> is in your config.sys file, and that SPD31.SYS is in C:\ or alternatively
> try running SPD31C.COM.
>
>
> --
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>
>
>

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Constant:

> When you open WINDOWS, you let BUGS in!

ROFL... Reminds me of another: Speed Kills, Use Windows.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 15:09:48 -0700
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Owen,

> Yes,
> download GREET from the SUPER page at http://www.palmtop.net/super.html

Thanks, this confirms that my mind is not gone!:)  Thanks! I
just posted to the original poster, but only had a dim memory
of this info.

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> Is there any DISADVANTAGE to running Buddy?

I think Buddy a great piece of software, with incredible
features. I looked at it very carefully, and decided to not
use it because of a totally subjective evaluation of what I'd
use from it (literally hundreds of features!) vs. the memory
hit I'd sustain. Memory won.

That is just about the only issue I can think of as a
drawback, but you probably have to evaluate it for yourself.

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 15:09:58 -0700
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Mitch, I do not use Buddy, so my experience is minor, but I
thought it works in DOS too. Is there some settings that will
tell it to do its functions in DOS?

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 18:18:52 -0400
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I think that, legally, you should ask Mack for it. I'm sure he wouldn't
mind giving it to you because it's worthless on a non-Macked LX. He may
have the serial number on record (just to make sure you got the upgrade
from him.)

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Patrick West mailto:pccare@TELEPORT.COM
                Sent:   Tuesday, May 19, 1998 6:12 PM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        Re: HPLX-L screen wraps

                On Tue, 19 May 1998, David Sargeant wrote:
                > Do you have a doublespeed machine?  If so, that sounds
like the symptom of
                > your speed driver not being loaded.  Check to make
sure:

                I purchased it used and last week messed up and ran the
both sets of
                bateries down at the same time.  I lost the ram disk and
had to restore
                from backup.
                I hadn't made a full backup just backed up my own stuff.
I have spent the
                last week reloading stuff.

                I don't have a copy of spd31.sys or I'd try it to see if
that is the
                cause.
                Where could I find it or SPD31C.COM ?


                >
                > DEVICE=C:\SPD31.SYS
                >
                > is in your config.sys file, and that SPD31.SYS is in
C:\ or alternatively
                > try running SPD31C.COM.
                >
                >
                > --
                > Visit the 200LX site at
http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp
                >
                >
                >

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Jerome,

There is a program written by Andreas Garzotto, I believe,
which will manage that greeting in a more flexible way, incl.
bring it up at will, I think. I Looked at it an briefly used a
long long time ago. If my memory still holds, this is called
"greet" - and may be on SUPER. If not, Mitch can get it from
CIS where I think it originally was located.

You spoke of the concise list of appointments. In the
appointment book, when you view a day, you can press Fn-space
(Zoom) to toggle between a 60 minute interval, 30, 15, and
just appts.

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Chris,

> I noticed that in all the discussion on VR registration, no one
> mentioned how to actually register with Gilles now that he apparently
> has a new e-mail address.  Is this a secret, or just an oversight?
> I would love to re-register and get this newer version of VR.

The info is in the documentation for VR, in REGISTER.DOC.

> If he permits it, would you please post the registration information
> on the mailing list for all to take advantage of?

If you cannot find REGISTER.DOC, I'll post it here. It should
be in the package you d/l for VR.

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> To add to want list, why not add file locking to the hypothetical LX
> spooler daemon and add file locking to lxtools (I am assuming it does
> not).  So that you can run both on the same port.

If you went with the "one shot and out" type of daemon, I don't think
you would need the locking. Just as with lxtools, you could compile
lxspool with a default port and port speed. To print from the HP, you
would type "lxspool" and it would start waiting for a configurable
period of time. During that time, lxtools could not use the port. You
would then hit "print" on the HP and lxspool would take the serial
stream, pass it to lpr for proper spooling then exit. It could just
send it straight to the printer, but some people will not have a
Laserjet so may need their magic filter to convert the PCL to
something their printer can eat. Sounds like a really cool project and
one that I will add to my wish list. Maybe a wish list page on
Palmtop.Net is in order...

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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On 1998-05-19 Wally@pop.uky.edu said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >Message-ID:  <1301.443T298T8180382@pop.uky.edu>
   >Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 13:38:05 -0500
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   >Organization: The hand that uses the Amiga is the hand that rules
   >the world.
   >I've just installed Win 2.03 and since I've never toyed with
   >Windows very much, I'm not having much luck using it.
   >I can do simple stuff, opening windows applications,
   >moving/resizing/closing, etc, but:
   >Any way to change directory besides going through the menus?
   >(Perhaps just due to the old version)
   >*Surely* DOS applications can be opened through Windows, right???
   >Every time I try it says that "Windows cannot run standard
   >applications under OS/2" (OS/2?)  It's not very useful (for me
   >anyway) if it can't run anything besides Windows apps.. :)
   >What's the name of the TSR that allows you to turn the palmtop off
   >under Windows?  I've searched everywhere and can't locate it.
   >Last, anyone know of a site that has documenation on such an old
   >version?  Try a Yahoo search on Windows.. :)
   >Thanks!!

Well, hell, I'm not that old, but here is my little tutorial...

The heart of Windows 2.03 is the MS-Dos Executive, surely the
world's worst name for a file manager!

To quickly change drives, hold down Ctrl and press the drive
letter, Ctrl + A, Ctrl + C, Ctrl + D

To jump to a file or directory, press the first letter of it's
name, keep pressing the same first letter to move between
multiples of the same letter.

To back out of a directory, press Backspace.

To sort by type, press Alt + F then K

To run dos programs, including the LX sysmanager, use the
pifeditor. I have over 475k free in appmanager when run from
Windows and after the filer has been closed, more than enough
memory to run multiple LX apps.

BTW, yours is another post I have seen mention of windows
objecting to finding "OS/2" I wonder where this comes from? My LX
is std, perhaps you are running stacker/jam/speed/mem upgrade?

The tsr you are looking for is sleepon.com by Stefan Peichl and a
wonderful piece it is too! It can be found on super at
www.palmtop.net/super.html

You can use this in a batch file, to reverse the screen b/w and
then call win and allow full control of the keyboard and then
unload sleepon after exiting win.

The paint program is fully functional with the keyboard, and the
files it produces, *.msp can be read with paint from later
versions of windows.

The only real drawback i find with Windows on the LX is a lack of
true type support and poor printing performance. I tend to do
work in Excel and Word on the palmtop and then transfer the files
to a desktop by pc card or cable and then do final font selection
and print preview before printing from a desktop.

I have a portable printer and a serial <-> parallel converter,
but cannot get presentation quality from this combination.

HTH
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The "Windows cannot run OS/2 programs" error is caused by using SETVERM
instead of SETVER.EXE, or by using a wrong version of SETVER.  Make sure
SETVER.EXE is in your config.sys and that you SETVER WINDOWS.COM 3.30 to
get the right version for Windows.

Or, just don't run DOS programs out of Windows 2.03, since SETVERM is very
handy and it's a shame to have to give it up...

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On Tue, 19 May 1998, Joe Barrera wrote:

> > Okay, I'll bite.  How's it work?
>
>  <http://acept.la.asu.edu/PiN/rdg/fresnel/fresnel.shtml>
> http://acept.la.asu.edu/PiN/rdg/fresnel/fresnel.shtml has a nice visual
> explanation. Here is the accompanying text:

Umm...  that's very nice, but I was interested in knowing
whether it worked for the fellow who posted he had bought one.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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BC>I'd try renaming the "bad" one to appmgr.bad then reboot.  I think the
  >LX will re-create the file.  You'll lose any apps you installed in
  >sysmgr, though.  (I think... I had a similar problem.  I think that's
  >how I solved it.)

Thanks, that's what I had to do.  Now I'm in the process of putting
everything (all my apps like 1st Reader, VDE, NewSweep) back where I
want them and re-set them up.  Now I have to remember syntax for MaxDos
<g>.

Jim

  >> -> Did you copy all the files from your 100 to your 200?  If so, the
  >> -> appmgr.dat file is what's messing you up, I think.  HP changed the
  >> -> definition of the cc:mail key to the quicken key from the 100 to
  >> -> 200... but the scancode is the same, I think.
  >>
  >> Yep I bet I did!  Any idea how I can get the original back without
  >> re-initializing my drive c:?

 * 1st 2.00 * 1stReader 2.00: The DOOM of offline mail readers.

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A new version of CIC200 is now available at:

http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/cic21.zip

This new version includes source code and also removes the annoying beeps
that many of you requested be removed.

It still will not work with all modems, however.

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Comments: To: Ted Heise <theise@netins.net>

> Umm...  that's very nice, but I was interested in knowing
> whether it worked for the fellow who posted he had bought one.

Well, now you know *both* "whether it works" and "how it works". :-)

-       Joe

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> Last, anyone know of a site that has documentation on such an old version?

I just got a note back from the MS Archive and we do have a copy of Windows
2.03, including documentation! Once I receive it, I'll post a summary of the
interesting bits here.

- Joe

Joseph S. Barrera III
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Does anyone have a legal version of Quicken 4 or later for DOS that they
would be willing to sell me? I only need the disks, but they do have to be
legal.
>
Pls advise by email. Thanks.

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>I'm sure many of us split our mail & news reading between the palmtop and
>desktop...

I've been using a program for about 6 months which I developed, allowing me
to send & receive email on the palmtop by connecting with a serial cable to
a desktop computer and using Eudora.  On the palmtop, emails to send are
inputted into a notetaker file, which is then transferred by the program to
the desktop, converted, and fed into Eudora.  Received email is converted
from Eudora format to lx database and transferred to the palmtop.  The
program works on NT & 95, though it's a bit unfinished (not much of an
interface etc).  If anyone is interested, email me and I'll chuck a version
up on the web.

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> I have finally given up on using Memo for message composition in
> POST/LX and am now using PalEdit like most others are. Unfortunately, I
> am having withdrawal symptoms now that I no longer have access to the
> SmartCaps feature in Buddy.

How 'bout using BUDDYDOS (look, I'm using it now). It will cost you
12k, but will give all you ask for.

Cheers,

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Mitch:

> I would like to incorporate some of Buddy's features into PalEdit using
> macros or some other method, but don't really know how to go about it.

AFAIK regular Buddy works fine in DOS.  I'm using the small version
"buddydos", that comes with version 3, since I spend most of my
palmtop time in raw DOS.  It only works in registered copies, but has
the features you want.  I'm writing this using it, and it works
great!!

-PR
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>Alternatively, get the Connectivity pack...
>
>HTH
>
Sorry, should have been clearer. I, being a paranoid sort, like to have
more that one way of accessing my data. When I back up my HPLX, I Pkzip the
c:\_dat and transfer them to a DOS laptop. In case, gods forbid, my HPLX
dies, the data is there. Question of the hour: will the Connectivity Pack
run under DOS on a 286 (paid $100 refurbished, sits under the TV Guide most
of the time)? I _could_ run Win3.X, but I would rather avoid the whole
thing as I do support for a bevvy of Win95, Win3.X, and MacOS computers at
work and I enjoy the reductionist surge of typing, as I did in my youth.
Suggestions, please? - srl

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On Tue, 19 May 1998, Samuel Lightcap wrote:

> dies, the data is there. Question of the hour: will the Connectivity Pack
> run under DOS on a 286 (paid $100 refurbished, sits under the TV Guide most
> of the time)? I _could_ run Win3.X, but I would rather avoid the whole
> thing as I do support for a bevvy of Win95, Win3.X, and MacOS computers at
> work and I enjoy the reductionist surge of typing, as I did in my youth.
> Suggestions, please? - srl

My main computer is still my trusty 286 running DOS 3.3.  It runs
the Connectivity Pack very well.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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> Try going into Buddy setup and click on the DOS checkbox for SmartCaps.
>  That should enable SmartCaps for Paledit, and all other DOS apps.

I tried that, but all I can get out of it is the caps on double-click;
nithing else works. Also, I load Buddy after MaxDOS so I can have
enough memory to run PESPELL so I need to find a way to do those things
without Buddy.

Mitch

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Date:         Wed, 20 May 1998 00:07:48 -0400
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At 10:51 PM 5/19/98 -0500, you wrote:
>My main computer is still my trusty 286 running DOS 3.3.  It runs
>the Connectivity Pack very well.
>
>Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

My main computer is my trusty 186 running DOS 5.0.  On the other hand, it
doesn't need to run the Connectivity Pack.  <g>

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
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   >On Mon, 18 May 1998, Floyd Smithberg wrote:
   >> Just picked up a ~2"x6" plastic magnifier/bookmark $2 at the
   >>Borders  book & music store  ...nr Phoenix.
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 07:05:54 +0000
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   >Okay, I'll bite.  How's it work?

I also bought one in an obscure stationery store in the mountains where
I was on vacation. Sounds like the same 2"x6" bookmark that Floyd had.

Laying the lens over the screen produces barely any enlargement and adds
considerable glare besides. As he said, you have to hold it about 2" away
to get any benefit, so I gave it to my wife to use as a bookmark/magnifier.

Another $2 lost to practical research, but my wife's happy.

- Longden

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Following Carol's questions about how to use a different font, I finally
installed a new font too.  I tried lxfont and found it 'pretty' but I was
looking for a sans serif style.  I tried jini and this seems to fit the
bill (it was also recommended in the excellent 'PC in your Pocket' book).
But fontstuff.zip contains loads of others.  Without trying them all (I
don't want to reinvent the wheel) which one do YOU prefer and why?
TIA
Jez

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Ian:

> My main computer is my trusty 186 running DOS 5.0.  On the other hand, =
it
> doesn't need to run the Connectivity Pack.  <g>

Aha, you have one on one hand (on the palmtop, I assume! :) )
and you have another - a backup? - on the other hand. That
sounds safe and prudent! :) The more the better!

  Avi M. D&A

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There is a freeware double speed clock driver included in the
LXPIC.ZIP file called DSPEED.COM. I use it on my T2T double
speed 200LX without any problem. The reason why I wrote it was
the flickering of the screen under artificial light conditions.

I increased the frame rate, resulting in a 'sharper' display
without flicker. This may also be needed in the 4-grayscale
LXPIC mode.

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> But fontstuff.zip contains loads of others.  Without trying them all (I
> don't want to reinvent the wheel) which one do YOU prefer and why?

Blame fontstuf.zip on me. I was too lazy to separate all of them out,
load each one, screen cap them, attribute them to the right
author, determine the memory footprint...you get the picture. :)

My all-time favorite is helvsd by Stan Dobrowski (a 200LX deity). It
only takes 5.2K, has some cute little tails on the i, l, & t, and has a
tiny dot in the middle of the zero so you can easily tell it from an o.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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After seeing the post on quake 2 for the palmtop, Carpman realizes the
sorry state of palmtop games. He pulls up his 3D engine list, and after
a few stats scroll across the screen, he turns back to the e-mail and
says: ' O.K., I cant give you quake2, but I may be able to work
something up that is more similar to wolf. 3d, Send me ideas, plots,
textures, pixmaps, etc... And I think we should vote on the animal
mascot for the palmtop, so that can be the main charater.'

e-mail me
ctg@geocities.com

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On Tue, 19 May 1998, Ian Butler wrote:

> At 10:51 PM 5/19/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >My main computer is still my trusty 286 running DOS 3.3.  It runs
> >the Connectivity Pack very well.
>
> My main computer is my trusty 186 running DOS 5.0.  On the other hand, it
> doesn't need to run the Connectivity Pack.  <g>


Yeah, well I *meant* "my main computer other than my LX."  :)

Ted

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Date:         Wed, 20 May 1998 14:07:46 +0200
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Walter R Francis schrieb:
>

> Also, this simple batch file will do:
>
> @ECHO OFF
> CLS
> ECHO LOOKING FOR %1
> FOR %%d IN (C) DO DIR %%d:\%1 /S /P /b
>
> I certainly didn't write it, got it from Battips. GDB I believe.  You can add
> drives in the (C) part, but not sure what the format is.  Not as cool as a FF
> util, but still easy and fast.


Modification is simple -

just put the other drives in the bracket:

for %%d in (A C D) do dir  %%d:\%1 /S /P /b


if you want to specify the drive (just one) before the search, something
like:

for %%d in (%2) do dir  %%d:\%1 /S /P /b



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R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:
>>Is anyone aware of a "standard", or at least "common" directory structure
>>for placing commands and utility programs in the 200LX (or any DOS computer,
here's my organisation of both data and programmes
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C DRIVE
c:\_dat
 standard hp200lx directory
c:\system
 all essential programmes in their own directories
c:\system\utilities
 small/limited utility programmes eg maxdos, ntkey2lx
 also put batch files in here
c:\system\carousel
... and so on, each in its own dir, but stripped of unnecessary files
c:\database
 all gdb/ndb/pdb files
c:\quicken
 quicken data (rather put them in _dat but quicken insists)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A DRIVE (64 MB Flashcard, yeah!)
a:\archive, a:\archive\arc9804, a:\archive\arc9805
 dir by dir, then packed away into my laptop
a:\backup
 mirrors my c:\_dat, c:\database, c:\quicken
 unpacked, too lazy
a:\games, a:\games\klondike
... and so on
a:\lotus
 all wk1 files, on card so easy to access on laptop
a:\system
 other bigger programmes not found on c:
 also for programmes on tryout
a:\system\hisword, a:\system\wordperf
... and so on
a:\wordperf
 all wordperfect data files here
a:\_home, a:\_know, a:\_orgn, a:\_pers, a:\_reln, a:\_work
 ascii/memo text files for home, knowledge, organisations,
  personal (ie me), relationships (people) and work
 each major topic (eg soccer) in own directory
...  and so on, you get the picture
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
my path is just c:\system; c:\system\utilitys; d:\dos
i access everything else via HDM or system manager so no need for overelaborate
dos paths.

jasonyap

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Date:         Wed, 20 May 1998 06:06:27 PDT
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Comments: To: "LYNN CAVENDISH, AIR-2.3.1.2" <cavendishlm.JFK@NAVAIR.NAVY.MIL>

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100% on target.

I did save the file to a flashcard and I do have alkaline batteries in it.

I have been trying to get some stuff running and locking up the system so
hard I have had to remove all batteries 3 times this week. So I reset
everything to save all data on the flashcard instead of the ram disk.
So I'll go back to saving on the ram disk and wright a copy to flashcard
batch file to run prior to playing with software installs.
And replace the batteries.


** Reply to note from "LYNN CAVENDISH, AIR-2.3.1.2" <cavendishlm.JFK@NAVAIR.NAVY.MIL> Fri, 15 May 1998 08:52:36 -0400 (EDT)


> Patrick,
>
> Any chance you wrote the corrupted file to a flash card, and are using alkaline
> batteries that are getting week?  That often gives the results you have seen.
> Other than that, no immediate thoughts.
>
> Cordially,
>
> lynn m. cavendish
>
> Folks,
>
> I went to my appointment book, built in app, and it returned invalid file
> type.



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> The HP service center which I've mentioned previously sells "service
> hits", which include (aproximately, from memory), a backup battery tray,
> BU batt & IR port window, main battery door, two hinge caps, two sets of
> rubber feet, and a personalization plaque, for about $20.
> --------------------------------------------------------------

Anyone have a phone number for the service center, and a part number for
this "kit"


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>
> I think that, legally, you should ask Mack for it. I'm sure he wouldn't
> mind giving it to you because it's worthless on a non-Macked LX. He may
> have the serial number on record (just to make sure you got the upgrade
> from him.)

I did ask Mack, he did give me the driver, and it fixed the problem
completely.

So i;m very happy.  And worth of this list is like that of gold.

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Subject:      Re: DOS Quicken Version 4 or later
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> Does anyone have a legal version of Quicken 4 or later for DOS that they
> would be willing to sell me? I only need the disks, but they do have to be
> legal.

If no body else has a copy I beleive I still have a copy of Vesion 6 for
DOS.

Folks,

I use a program called InCharge, not regular quicken. I can inport stuff in
QIF form but I don't know how to setup pocket quicken to export or inport.
Nor do I know if it uses regular quicken file format or can it use QIF?

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Jez:

> But fontstuff.zip contains loads of others.  Without trying them all (I
> don't want to reinvent the wheel) which one do YOU prefer and why?

I liked the andrew fonts.  These seem to have the largest-looking lower
case letters.  (A necessity for my middle-aged optics <g>).  However,
being a never-quite-satisfied font freak, I made my own, based on the
andrew fonts, including some modified helv200 designs, and the moon
fonts.  I got a copy of Gilles Kohl's FCL from a PTP disk, & registered
it.  You need this if you want to try customising fonts.

BTW - If you like playing with fonts, you should definitely install
PFE, Harry Konstas' great font editor.

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At 11:30 AM 5/20/98 +1000, Tim Pittman wrote:
>>I'm sure many of us split our mail & news reading between the palmtop and
>>desktop...
>
>I've been using a program for about 6 months which I developed, allowing me
>to send & receive email on the palmtop by connecting with a serial cable to
>a desktop computer and using Eudora.  On the palmtop, emails to send are
>inputted into a notetaker file, which is then transferred by the program to
>the desktop, converted, and fed into Eudora.  Received email is converted
>from Eudora format to lx database and transferred to the palmtop.  The
>program works on NT & 95, though it's a bit unfinished (not much of an
>interface etc).  If anyone is interested, email me and I'll chuck a version
>up on the web.
>
>Tim Pitman

I would love a copy of your program.  I am an avid Eudora fan/user, but
would love to exchange THE LIST back and forth between desktop and palmtop.

Thanks.
Jeff

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Me too please , at jonc@winternet.com.


Thanks in advance,
Jon


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>
> At 11:30 AM 5/20/98 +1000, Tim Pittman wrote:
> >>I'm sure many of us split our mail & news reading between the palmtop
> and
> >>desktop...
> >
> >I've been using a program for about 6 months which I developed, allowing
> me
> >to send & receive email on the palmtop by connecting with a serial cable
> to
> >a desktop computer and using Eudora.  On the palmtop, emails to send are
> >inputted into a notetaker file, which is then transferred by the program
> to
> >the desktop, converted, and fed into Eudora.  Received email is converted
> >from Eudora format to lx database and transferred to the palmtop.  The
> >program works on NT & 95, though it's a bit unfinished (not much of an
> >interface etc).  If anyone is interested, email me and I'll chuck a
> version
> >up on the web.
> >
> >Tim Pitman
>
> I would love a copy of your program.  I am an avid Eudora fan/user, but
> would love to exchange THE LIST back and forth between desktop and
> palmtop.
>
> Thanks.
> Jeff
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Interesting... does it require less memory overhead than Mack's ?

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Stefan Peichl mailto:stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE
                Sent:   Wednesday, May 20, 1998 6:07 AM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        HPLX-L double speed clock driver
DSPEED.COM

                There is a freeware double speed clock driver included
in the
                LXPIC.ZIP file called DSPEED.COM. I use it on my T2T
double
                speed 200LX without any problem. The reason why I wrote
it was
                the flickering of the screen under artificial light
conditions.

                I increased the frame rate, resulting in a 'sharper'
display
                without flicker. This may also be needed in the
4-grayscale
                LXPIC mode.

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Date:         Wed, 20 May 1998 11:32:31 -0400
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One of my favorite infocom games was Planetfall. How about a similar
plot? It would be nice if it was a shootemup AND adventure/puzzle
solving type-thang.


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                Subject:        HPLX-L Quake 2


                After seeing the post on quake 2 for the palmtop,
Carpman realizes the sorry state of palmtop games. He pulls up his 3D
engine list, and after a few stats scroll across the screen, he turns
back to the e-mail and says: ' O.K., I cant give you quake2, but I may
be able to work something up that is more similar to wolf. 3d, Send me
ideas, plots, textures, pixmaps, etc... And I think we should vote on
the animal mascot for the palmtop, so that can be the main charater.'
                e-mail me
                ctg@geocities.com <mailto:ctg@geocities.com>

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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 00:37:06 +0800
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Hi there!

I have an idea to a great program, or should we say driver:

A HP 200LX driver for HP's optional VGA Out Card (for HP 360/620LX)! Can
you imagine- Newton Keyboard and VGA Out Card! Then I can sell my desktop
but keep my 17" monitor! :)

Jorgen

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>
>My main computer is still my trusty 286 running DOS 3.3.  It runs
>the Connectivity Pack very well.
>
>Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
>
Ok, this will do then, thanks. I dread the day when all my old hardware
gives up the ghost and I have to upgrade... - srl

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Date:         Wed, 20 May 1998 15:23:40 -0400
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At 06:25 AM 5/20/97 -0500, you wrote:
>After seeing the post on quake 2 for the palmtop, Carpman realizes the
>sorry state of palmtop games. He pulls up his 3D engine list, and after
>a few stats scroll across the screen, he turns back to the e-mail and
>says: ' O.K., I cant give you quake2, but I may be able to work
>something up that is more similar to wolf. 3d, Send me ideas, plots,
>textures, pixmaps, etc... And I think we should vote on the animal
>mascot for the palmtop, so that can be the main charater.'

As i recall, the 200LX already has an animal mascot..  I don't recall the
particulat felinoid in question, but the 200LX was codenamed Lynx or bobcat
or cheetah or some damn thing during the development stage.

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On Wed, 20 May 1998, James Scheffler wrote:

> As i recall, the 200LX already has an animal mascot..  I don't recall the
> particulat felinoid in question, but the 200LX was codenamed Lynx or bobcat
> or cheetah or some damn thing during the development stage.

I think the recent postings pointed out the "Lair of Squid" easter egg
reference to the "Felix S/W Team" .. as in Felix the Cat.

And as those of us who can remember knows, the LX is our "bag of tricks".

- Longden

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>As i recall, the 200LX already has an animal mascot..  I don't recall the
>particulat felinoid in question, but the 200LX was codenamed Lynx or bobcat
>or cheetah or some damn thing during the development stage.
>
Is that the origin of the alternate icon choice in system manager, besides
the graph and the c:\? Wondered about that.

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Hi Group:

     I just looked for a copy of the ANDREW3 font mentioned in the
latest issue of PTP. I could not find it on CIS, could someone send me
a copy?

Thanks!

*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
*                        |___/
*Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd
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Date:         Tue, 20 May 1997 16:06:33 -0500
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olsena wrote:
>
> Would Wolf3D be as simple as reverse compiling the code, changing the
> video output to CGA (does Wolf3D already work under CGA?) and then
> recompiling it again using a 186 compiler (or the 186 option on any
> normal compiler)?
>
> Could we do this conversion on many of the games out there?... even
> though they'll run pretty slow. =)
>
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: Carpman <ctg@geocities.com>
>      To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>      Date: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 4:33 AM
>      Subject: Quake 2
>
>      After seeing the post on quake 2 for the palmtop, Carpman
>      realizes the
>      sorry state of palmtop games. He pulls up his 3D engine
>      list, and after
>      a few stats scroll across the screen, he turns back to the
>      e-mail and
>      says: ' O.K., I cant give you quake2, but I may be able to
>      work
>      something up that is more similar to wolf. 3d, Send me
>      ideas, plots,
>      textures, pixmaps, etc... And I think we should vote on the
>      animal
>      mascot for the palmtop, so that can be the main charater.'
>
>      e-mail me
>      ctg@geocities.com
>
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Unfortunately no.

1. converting to cga is going to be a monumental task because of the
length of the word you write in to CGA memory, and the order in which
you write them.

2. size, I cant fit the original wolf on my 100lx, and therefore i cant
develop it.

3. wolf 3d is in asembler, and uses 286 specific calls.

We will have to write our engine from the ground up. I dont have the
math background to do 3d, so if someone could come up with the basic
equations, it would be good.

ctg@geocities.com

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I would still love a driver that would properly drive the HPLX IR port to
be compatible with the IRdA standards.  This way I could use the IR port to
communicate with my laptop PC.   Does anyone know any other way to use the
IR port to run a file transfer program between the HPLX and a laptop PC?
Thanks and regards....Jim J.

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Date:         Wed, 20 May 1998 18:02:51 -0400
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At 04:06 PM 5/20/97 -0500, you wrote:
>1. converting to cga is going to be a monumental task because of the
>length of the word you write in to CGA memory, and the order in which
>you write them.

A simple format converter would work wonders.  It wouldn't be too hard to
convert Wolf VGA graphics to CGA.

>2. size, I cant fit the original wolf on my 100lx, and therefore i cant
>develop it.

As long as we're on Wolf, did you know that the original C/assembler source
is available?  I don't remember where, but ID released it for nonprofit use.

>3. wolf 3d is in asembler, and uses 286 specific calls.

I understand the first two, but would it really be that complicated to turn
286 calls into their 186 equivalents?  My experience suggests that it
wouldn't...

>We will have to write our engine from the ground up. I dont have the
>math background to do 3d, so if someone could come up with the basic
>equations, it would be good.

Hold it, son.  That ain't gonna work.  Without a math coprocessor, anything
conventional will be nauseatingly slow.  I do have some info on how to do
blindingly fast 3D projections, if that'll help.  It won't do Doom-like
renderings, but the stuff I have looks just like Wolfenstein.  Also
remember this:  the 200's graphics subsystem has some nifty stuff that'll
make something like this a lot easier.  Here specifically I'm thinking of
the bit blitter.

Oh yeah, one more thing.  If it's gonna run decently on a 200, it'll have
to be tight assembly or MoonRock (MoonRock produces tight assembly anyway,
and can be hand-optimized as well).  C and BASIC and Pascal just don't have
the speed to do this kind of stuff.

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

"It's hard to uncover the true meaning of 'frop'.  SubGeniuses use 'frop'
all the time, but nothing a SubGenius says makes any sense anyway, so you
can't use the context to figure out the meaning.  What you have to do is
look at the broader picture.  SubGeniuses use frop all the time.  Nothing a
SubGenius says makes any sense anyway.  SubGeniuses don't make sense
because they use frop.  Got it?  I didn't think so.  Just come over to my
house and look at my VW Rabbit.  It has a model of a frop hanging off the
rear-view mirror.  Then you too can use frop and know what it means."
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Date:         Wed, 20 May 1998 18:04:14 -0400
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>> Would Wolf3D be as simple as reverse compiling the code, changing the
>> video output to CGA (does Wolf3D already work under CGA?) and then
>> recompiling it again using a 186 compiler (or the 186 option on any
>> normal compiler)?
>>
>> Could we do this conversion on many of the games out there?... even
>> though they'll run pretty slow. =)
>Unfortunately no.
>
>1. converting to cga is going to be a monumental task because of the
>length of the word you write in to CGA memory, and the order in which
>you write them.
>
>2. size, I cant fit the original wolf on my 100lx, and therefore i cant
>develop it.
>
>3. wolf 3d is in asembler, and uses 286 specific calls.
>
>We will have to write our engine from the ground up. I dont have the
>math background to do 3d, so if someone could come up with the basic
>equations, it would be good.

Mostly, it's pretty easy...  you define your 'world'...  you then define
your viewpoint...  then you 'scan'...  i.e. you mathematically check to see
what is visibl from that viewpoint..  DOOM and DOOM2 did it by looking at a
map, drawing a line from viewer to object, and then scanning downwards
towards the floor, and then outputting each seen pixel to an array...  2x2,
that was defined by the number of pixels in the window.

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Date:         Wed, 20 May 1998 14:57:36 -0700
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Hello Fellow Palmtoppers:

I am happy to announce that the problem with WWW/LX Plus
returning to Demo Mode on July 1 this year has been resolved.
We will be sending all registered owners an email on the fix.

The emails will begin to go out in the next day or so in
batches, so my ISP won't suspect that I am spamming! :) It
will be completed WELL BEFORE JULY 1! So don't worry, you
won't be stranded. I expect to finish all the emails by
Monday, June 1, 1998. Probably earlier.

I apologise for the inconvenience.

 Avi Meshar                    Andreas Garzotto
 D&A Software, Inc.            D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Wed, 20 May 1998 17:32:21 -0500
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Patrick West wrote:
>
> ** Reply to note from HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,         Fri, 15 May 1998 10:44:08 -0500
>
> > The HP service center which I've mentioned previously sells "service
> > hits", which include (aproximately, from memory), a backup battery tray,
> > BU batt & IR port window, main battery door, two hinge caps, two sets of
> > rubber feet, and a personalization plaque, for about $20.
> Anyone have a phone number for the service center, and a part number for
> this "kit"
        It's on the HP web page, but from my records, it is either 800-443-1254
or 970-392-1001. I cant help with the part #.
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> Hi Group:
>
>      I just looked for a copy of the ANDREW3 font mentioned in the
> latest issue of PTP. I could not find it on CIS, could someone send me
> a copy?
>
> Thanks!
>
Al,

Try Andrew.zip, Library 11.

Regards

Antonio


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Ian Butler wrote:
>
> At 04:06 PM 5/20/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >1. converting to cga is going to be a monumental task because of the
> >length of the word you write in to CGA memory, and the order in which
> >you write them.
>
> A simple format converter would work wonders.  It wouldn't be too hard to
> convert Wolf VGA graphics to CGA.
>
> >2. size, I cant fit the original wolf on my 100lx, and therefore i cant
> >develop it.
>
> As long as we're on Wolf, did you know that the original C/assembler source
> is available?  I don't remember where, but ID released it for nonprofit use.
>
> >3. wolf 3d is in asembler, and uses 286 specific calls.
>
> I understand the first two, but would it really be that complicated to turn
> 286 calls into their 186 equivalents?  My experience suggests that it
> wouldn't...
>
> >We will have to write our engine from the ground up. I dont have the
> >math background to do 3d, so if someone could come up with the basic
> >equations, it would be good.
>
> Hold it, son.  That ain't gonna work.  Without a math coprocessor, anything
> conventional will be nauseatingly slow.  I do have some info on how to do
> blindingly fast 3D projections, if that'll help.  It won't do Doom-like
> renderings, but the stuff I have looks just like Wolfenstein.  Also
> remember this:  the 200's graphics subsystem has some nifty stuff that'll
> make something like this a lot easier.  Here specifically I'm thinking of
> the bit blitter.
>
> Oh yeah, one more thing.  If it's gonna run decently on a 200, it'll have
> to be tight assembly or MoonRock (MoonRock produces tight assembly anyway,
> and can be hand-optimized as well).  C and BASIC and Pascal just don't have
> the speed to do this kind of stuff.
>
> Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
> Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
>
> "It's hard to uncover the true meaning of 'frop'.  SubGeniuses use 'frop'
> all the time, but nothing a SubGenius says makes any sense anyway, so you
> can't use the context to figure out the meaning.  What you have to do is
> look at the broader picture.  SubGeniuses use frop all the time.  Nothing a
> SubGenius says makes any sense anyway.  SubGeniuses don't make sense
> because they use frop.  Got it?  I didn't think so.  Just come over to my
> house and look at my VW Rabbit.  It has a model of a frop hanging off the
> rear-view mirror.  Then you too can use frop and know what it means."
>         - M'self, "How To Say Nothing At All, Yet Sound Like A Complete Idiot"
>
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Well, ya see. You cant convert 286 calls to 186 equivs., be cause there
are no equivelent calls. The 286 calls allow it to do thins that the 186
physicaly cant, and therefore a 286 specific program will not run or
compile on  a 186.

ctg@geocities.com

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Date:         Wed, 20 May 1998 15:57:35 -0700
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Folks,

I just got done sending files from my hl20lx to my OS/2 Warp thinkpad
laptop.
I used a older OS/2 program called linkright.  I picked up a copy new in
the box at the Egghead closeout a couple of months back. It is a Native
os/2 PM program. It came with a limited  dos version.
Anyways I picked up a cable at PCC today for $24.95 and used linkright.
Nice setup & connecting. Easy transfers.


Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Subject:      trade for 100lx

Tony,


OA>Are you interested in getting rid of your 100LX?  I'm looking for one.  =
  >Are you interested in a trade for a Cassiopia A-10 Windows CE machine?  =
  >...or maybe something else...?

OA>...How about my 10MB PCMCIA flash memory card and my 28.8 megahertz =
  >PCMCIA modem?

OA>Tell me what you think...

I originally wanted to keep it as a back up, but yes, I'd be interested
in trading it for the 10 mb flash card and 28.8mhz pcmcia modem
provided they both work, and both work in the 200 LX.  Let me be up
front about the 100 LX though, it ain't pretty.  I've had it since
1993.  It works perfectly, but it has the infamous "hinge crack" which
I repaired with Super Glue.  The latch is no longer springy so I use 4
tabs of velcro to hold it closed but a more cosmetically appealing
solution for that might be to stuff something behind the latch to renew
its "springiness", and the battery hatch cover needs replaced.
All that said, let me know.

Jim

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Great idea!!! Anybody want to tackle it?

At 12:37 AM 5/21/98 +0800, you wrote:
>Hi there!
>
>I have an idea to a great program, or should we say driver:
>
>A HP 200LX driver for HP's optional VGA Out Card (for HP 360/620LX)! Can
>you imagine- Newton Keyboard and VGA Out Card! Then I can sell my desktop
>but keep my 17" monitor! :)
>
>Jorgen
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Thanks to all it turned out to be
1-800-227-8164
part # F1216-60998
$20.00 including shipping.  A great deal. I just ordered it. Thanks again.

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At 05:36 PM 5/20/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Well, ya see.

SMACK.  (Don't mess with Real Programmers.)

>You cant convert 286 calls to 186 equivs., be cause there
>are no equivelent calls. The 286 calls allow it to do thins that the 186
>physicaly cant, and therefore a 286 specific program will not run or
>compile on  a 186.

WHAP.  Run a spelchek, man!  I can't read line noise!

Of course you can.  286 instructions can be emulated on a 186 with usually
only two or three assembler steps.  This is particularly true in the case
of Wolf 3D, since it doesn't use the 286's pathetic rendition of protected
mode.  If I recall correctly, the only thing it uses 286 instructions for
is bounds checking, which can be done in software nearly as fast as in
hardware.
Incidentally, they aren't calls, they're instructions.  Calls refer to
subroutines or functions (or ISRs or entry points or what have you).

Back to the subject ("Bitchin' palmtop game considerations") - if you
really want to do this, I'd stop slinging mud 1 and get to work.  First
stop would be to go get the 200LX SDK, which will give you _tons_ of info
on the graphics subsystem, which is hugely more advanced than a standard
CGA, thus giving you lots of acceleration options.  Second, go get MoonRock
(simple, yes, but fast and efficient) and figure out how to use it.  I'd
recommend it to be your target language because of its inline assembler and
wonderful memory and disk I/O options.  Third, go find the Wolfenstein
source and look it over on your big computer.  I'd recomend porting
Wolfenstein to MoonRock and then optimizing for the 200LX from there.
It'll save all that troublesome thinking that makes programming such a
grueling task.

Well, enough talk, I've already gotten one death threat.  I gotta get back
to work before Al shoots me for talking trash on the list. ;)

Oh, one last note, I'm willing to tutor anyone interested in MoonRock.
It's a powerful language once you figure it out.

1 I'm slinging mud too.  Deal with it.

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On Wed, 20 May 1998, Ian Butler wrote:

> At 04:06 PM 5/20/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >1. converting to cga is going to be a monumental task because of the
> >length of the word you write in to CGA memory, and the order in which
> >you write them.
>
> A simple format converter would work wonders.  It wouldn't be too hard to
> convert Wolf VGA graphics to CGA.

No, but making it look good probably would...

> >3. wolf 3d is in asembler, and uses 286 specific calls.
>
> I understand the first two, but would it really be that complicated to turn
> 286 calls into their 186 equivalents?  My experience suggests that it
> wouldn't...

As long as it doesn't use protected mode (it doesn't) then I don't think
it is impossible. It will no doubt be slower, though.

> >We will have to write our engine from the ground up. I dont have the
> >math background to do 3d, so if someone could come up with the basic
> >equations, it would be good.
>
> Hold it, son.  That ain't gonna work.  Without a math coprocessor, anything
> conventional will be nauseatingly slow.  I do have some info on how to do
> blindingly fast 3D projections, if that'll help.  It won't do Doom-like
> renderings, but the stuff I have looks just like Wolfenstein.  Also
> remember this:  the 200's graphics subsystem has some nifty stuff that'll
> make something like this a lot easier.  Here specifically I'm thinking of
> the bit blitter.

Still, it would be easier if the LX had hardware sprite scaling :-)

> Oh yeah, one more thing.  If it's gonna run decently on a 200, it'll have
> to be tight assembly or MoonRock (MoonRock produces tight assembly anyway,
> and can be hand-optimized as well).  C and BASIC and Pascal just don't have
> the speed to do this kind of stuff.

What is needed is not tight code, but _fast_ code. MoonRock can optimize
for size, but for speed you need to apply a different set of tricks -
unrolled loops for instance. AFAIK, this kind of thing is also applied in
Doom (though I forget the specifics). I don't think there would be any
problem in writing most of the code in C and then only writing the
time-crucial bits'n'pieces in assembler.

Incidentally, has anyone seen Wolf 3D run on a 12-286? it doesn't look
pretty, and the LX will probably be slower (or have I just been spoiled by
modern games).

Actually, I'd be content with a wire-framed version. This shouldn't prove
too hard a project.

Regards,

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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
> >
> Incidentally, has anyone seen Wolf 3D run on a 12-286? it doesn't look
> pretty, and the LX will probably be slower (or have I just been spoiled by
> modern games).
>
> Actually, I'd be content with a wire-framed version. This shouldn't prove
> too hard a project.
>
> Regards,
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I have a program for my TI-85 >>GRAPHING CALCULATOR<< of all things,
that does and EXCELENT version of wolf3d. the code+levels fit in under
32k, it runs fast, and is compiled for a z80 cpu. A port of this is
probably the best bet. All that would need to be done is to translate it
to the 80x86 instruction set, convert it to a cga or proprietaty mode
screen, and redo the map loader so it will work under dos.

get the source to daedalus at www.ticalc.org in the
archives\ti85\asm\games section of the website (note, that is not the
directory).

ctg@geocities.com

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I got cc:mail to dial and connect but the post office says not data
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On Wed, 20 May 1998, Carpman wrote:

snip

> I have a program for my TI-85 >>GRAPHING CALCULATOR<< of all things,
> that does and EXCELENT version of wolf3d. the code+levels fit in under
> 32k, it runs fast, and is compiled for a z80 cpu. A port of this is
> probably the best bet. All that would need to be done is to translate it
> to the 80x86 instruction set, convert it to a cga or proprietaty mode
> screen, and redo the map loader so it will work under dos.

I know of the TI-calc version, I've tried it. If memory serves, it looks
"funny" when you turn - the perspective doesn't look too nice.

> get the source to daedalus at www.ticalc.org in the
> archives\ti85\asm\games section of the website (note, that is not the
> directory).

AFAIK, every Z80 instruction has a corresponding x86 instruction (ie no
need for several instructions just to emulate one Z80 instruction) which
could help in converting such a program. Register values could
still pose a problem, though.

Anyway, I've never done any Z80 assembly, so I could be all wrong...

BTW. has anyone run Driller on the LX? should run just fine as I used to
play it on an XT. It has Solid 3D graphics (no textures, though).


Regards,

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At 02:09 AM 5/21/98 +0200, you wrote:
>> A simple format converter would work wonders.  It wouldn't be too hard to
>> convert Wolf VGA graphics to CGA.
>
>No, but making it look good probably would...

From what I've seen of what LXPIC can do with color images, I would doubt
it.  Perhaps a little hand touch-up, but other than that, it'd probably be
pretty easy.

>As long as it doesn't use protected mode (it doesn't) then I don't think
>it is impossible. It will no doubt be slower, though.

Right.  My 2x 200 runs as fast as a 12MHz AT, according to Landmark 6.0.
Single speed palmtops would be excruciatingly slow, but with speed upgrade
prices what they are, it's worth getting an upgrade for overall performance
anyway.

>Still, it would be easier if the LX had hardware sprite scaling :-)

<g> True enough.

>What is needed is not tight code, but _fast_ code. MoonRock can optimize
>for size, but for speed you need to apply a different set of tricks -
>unrolled loops for instance. AFAIK, this kind of thing is also applied in
>Doom (though I forget the specifics). I don't think there would be any
>problem in writing most of the code in C and then only writing the
>time-crucial bits'n'pieces in assembler.

Mmmm... Well, loop unrolling would work fine in the instruction cache-less
environment of the 200LX.  Beyond that, precalculated math tables,
offscreen buffering, and so on can be done in MoonRock with little
difficulty.  My concern for size is based on the fact that there just ain't
much space in a palmtop.  I think we should work for both, with speed being
the priority.  Like I said, you can hand-optimize MoonRock code quite
easily (edit the assembler output of the compiler) and come out with a
program that's just faster (and smaller) than all get out.

>Incidentally, has anyone seen Wolf 3D run on a 12-286? it doesn't look
>pretty, and the LX will probably be slower (or have I just been spoiled by
>modern games).

A doublespeed 200LX would be about the same as a 12MHz 286, as mentioned
earlier.  I've seen Wolf 3D run on an 8MHz 286, and it seemed fine to me.
Didn't run it in full screen mode, though, so I don't know what that'd be
like.  As for being spoiled by modern games, yes, you have.  Try running
Street Rod 2 on a computer of its time, for example.  Same action as on a
big computer, just a slightly lower frame rate.  That's probably what we're
looking at here.

>Actually, I'd be content with a wire-framed version. This shouldn't prove
>too hard a project.

Oh, the ickiness of it all!  Content is not what we're after.  We're after
AMAZING. :) But if it turns out that something like that really does run
unacceptably slow, simply turning off wall texturing would prove to be
quite enough.

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On Wed, 20 May 1998, Ian Butler wrote:


The Graphics
> >From what I've seen of what LXPIC can do with color images, I would doubt
> it.  Perhaps a little hand touch-up, but other than that, it'd probably be
> pretty easy.

BTW. The graphics are still copyrighted by Apogee, so technically, they
cannot be distributed.

The Speed
> >What is needed is not tight code, but _fast_ code. MoonRock can optimize
> >for size, but for speed you need to apply a different set of tricks -
> >unrolled loops for instance. AFAIK, this kind of thing is also applied in
> >Doom (though I forget the specifics). I don't think there would be any
> >problem in writing most of the code in C and then only writing the
> >time-crucial bits'n'pieces in assembler.
>
> Mmmm... Well, loop unrolling would work fine in the instruction cache-less
> environment of the 200LX.  Beyond that, precalculated math tables,
> offscreen buffering, and so on can be done in MoonRock with little
> difficulty.  My concern for size is based on the fact that there just ain't
> much space in a palmtop.  I think we should work for both, with speed being
> the priority.  Like I said, you can hand-optimize MoonRock code quite
> easily (edit the assembler output of the compiler) and come out with a
> program that's just faster (and smaller) than all get out.

Hmm. the biggest problem with using MoonRock is that it is soooooo slow at
compiling. A decently sized program literaly takes minutes to compile on a
single speed LX. Should be somewhat less painful on a 2x speed.

BTW. I just checked with MoonRock and it actually has an "optimize for
speed" option. I'm not quite sure what it does (didn't have time to play
with it), but it does do something :-)

It's a shame Rowan never released the new (and improved) version of
MoonRock.

> A doublespeed 200LX would be about the same as a 12MHz 286, as mentioned
> earlier.  I've seen Wolf 3D run on an 8MHz 286, and it seemed fine to me.
> Didn't run it in full screen mode, though, so I don't know what that'd be
> like.  As for being spoiled by modern games, yes, you have.  Try running
> Street Rod 2 on a computer of its time, for example.  Same action as on a
> big computer, just a slightly lower frame rate.  That's probably what we're
> looking at here.

Well, I played Wolf3D on a 486/50 (pretty fast for a PC in those days)
when it first came out, so I've been spoiled ever since :-)

> >Actually, I'd be content with a wire-framed version. This shouldn't prove
> >too hard a project.
>
> Oh, the ickiness of it all!  Content is not what we're after.  We're after
> AMAZING. :) But if it turns out that something like that really does run
> unacceptably slow, simply turning off wall texturing would prove to be
> quite enough.

Well, if it is the awe-factor you're after then why not simply capture a
lot of pictures while playing Doom and then convert them into an EVA file? :-)
(actually, I saw this done on the HP48 - several hundred kbytes worth of
pictures captured from Doom. Looked pretty awesome in 4 colours (using the
same 4 colour technique that Stefan uses in LXpic), but of course it
wasn't playable...)

BTW. ID software did another 3D game prior to Wolf3D. It is called "The
Catacomb Abyss", and I'm pretty sure it doesn't require a 286.
Unfortunately it does require EGA, and the source code isn't released as
ID don't hold the copyright themselves.

Regards,

Laust

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At 02:41 AM 5/21/98 +0200, you wrote:
>> I have a program for my TI-85 >>GRAPHING CALCULATOR<< of all things,

While we're on calculators, does anyone know if there is a computer game
around that's like Babal on the HP 48?  That's an addictive weird game, and
it looks like it'd be really simple to implement (3d - wise).  No porting
here, though; HP Saturns are 64-bit processors.  Of course, when I finish
the 48 emulator that I'm not working on, I could play the original, but...

>I know of the TI-calc version, I've tried it. If memory serves, it looks
>"funny" when you turn - the perspective doesn't look too nice.

Rendering problems?  Well, those could probably be corrected in a 200LX
version, as a stock 200 is a good 2MHz faster than a TI, not to mention
that an 80186 is also 16-bit.  It could handle the fishbowl corrections (I
assume that's the problem; usually is with cheap ray casters) with ease.

>AFAIK, every Z80 instruction has a corresponding x86 instruction (ie no
>need for several instructions just to emulate one Z80 instruction) which
>could help in converting such a program. Register values could
>still pose a problem, though.

Registers are very funky on the Z80.  You can combine some 8-bit registers
to make 16-bit ones, and there's a boatload of different MOV options, and
so on.  I recall a few Z80 emulators being around back in the dark ages of
PCs, though, if it's necessary to really see how it's done.

>Anyway, I've never done any Z80 assembly, so I could be all wrong...

I've done Z80 assembly.  A very odd processor indeed ... Actually, I think
the assembler (it was bundled with CP/M on my NorthStar Advantage) was for
an 8080, but they're nearly identical anyway.

>BTW. has anyone run Driller on the LX? should run just fine as I used to
>play it on an XT. It has Solid 3D graphics (no textures, though).

Can't say I have.  Where can it be had?

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

"It's hard to uncover the true meaning of 'frop'.  SubGeniuses use 'frop'
all the time, but nothing a SubGenius says makes any sense anyway, so you
can't use the context to figure out the meaning.  What you have to do is
look at the broader picture.  SubGeniuses use frop all the time.  Nothing a
SubGenius says makes any sense anyway.  SubGeniuses don't make sense
because they use frop.  Got it?  I didn't think so.  Just come over to my
house and look at my VW Rabbit.  It has a model of a frop hanging off the
rear-view mirror.  Then you too can use frop and know what it means."
        - M'self, "How To Say Nothing At All, Yet Sound Like A Complete Idiot"

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Date:         Wed, 20 May 1998 20:20:05 -0500
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I need to see if anyone else is having this problem:

POST/LX will no longer just receive email for me. I have to first send
something. It doesn't matter what; it can be a one word subject and
message body. If I don't send first, the POP3 download will hang at the
first 512 bytes of the first message and will sit there until it times
out. This is totally repeatable and I have no idea what I have done to
make it start this odious behavior. Am I the lone wolf?

One minor thing: This signature I am getting ready to put on is two
lines, but when I look at it in POST/LX I have a single line with the
strings side by side. Do you see it as one line, also?

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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> communicate with my laptop PC.   Does anyone know any other way to use =
the
> IR port to run a file transfer program between the HPLX and a laptop =
PC?

I am using an IBM Thinkpad 760E and it works with the 200LX just fine.
The IR port is semi-intelligent and can adapt itself to the device it
"talks" with. I always carry a disk containing CPACK FLOPPY (Super)
and all I had to do was pop in the floppy, start filer on the Thinkpad
and 200LX, and set my comm parameters. They synched right up at
115200.

I also have Microsoft's IrDA 2.0 upgrade on the laptop so I can print
to a HP 5P. It interferes with the filer protocol so you have to turn
it off to xfer files.

Mitch

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1)My basically new (purchased 1/98) HP200LX 1mb suffered a near fatal
crash when it fell from my hands onto the floor. It appears that the
only casualties are the screen and my wallet! HP declined to cover it
under warrenty which seems reasonable, but they want $175 to replace the
screen.  Since I've been reading about broken hinges and latches, I am
hoping that someone may have a machine with a working screen that they
would be willing to sell real cheap. If so, please e-mail me directly.
2)When I bought my machine I also got the DOS-compatible Cable, Part #HP
F1015A. Unfortunately, not being much of a computer person, I can't get
my HP to talk to my regular PC. I guess I need some additional hardware
and/or software, but I'm not sure, and my local computer stores don't
seem to know anything about this machine except that they keep telling
me it's outdated.  Any help would be sincerely appreciated.
Thank you



11. Know Thy Options!

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I was wondering if Al or some other list member who has CIS access could
email me a copy of the Andrew3 font? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
in advance!

Jeff


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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 12:50:00 +0930
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
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R. Christopher Lott" <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:
>Is anyone aware of a "standard", or at least "common" directory structure
>for placing commands and utility programs in the 200LX (or any DOS computer,

Here's what I use ...

c:\
_dat            :       obvious
_sys            :       all .sys files and .exm files
app\*           :       one directory for each major application (like bcc)
bin             :       just like unix - lots of little executables
etc\fonts       :       obvious
etc\images      :       where I store my digital photos
etc\spell       :       PE spell checker files
man             :       manuals for the things in c:\bin
nws\folder      :       PNR folder
nws\spool       :       PNR spool
src             :       programming area
tmp             :       temp area
www             :       web root for local HV web hierarchy

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Thanks for the file Al! Maybe Mitch can post it on S.U.P.E.R. for all to
have easy access.

Jeff


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Date:         Wed, 20 May 1998 21:37:06 -0700
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Mitch

I passed along your entomological report to Andreas.

> One minor thing: This signature I am getting ready to put on is two
> lines, but when I look at it in POST/LX I have a single line with the
> strings side by side. Do you see it as one line, also?
>
> Mitch
> S.U.P.E.R. Team

See the signature line?

Now press Menu View Reformat while viewing a message in
Post/LX - see this now?

Mitch S.U.P.E.R. Team

Neat trick, heh? Hey it is a plot to drive you crazy! :) Oh
yes, RTFD, too... And PRESS THE !#!# F1 key from time to
time! ;-)

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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 00:54:43 -0400
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Will Dspeed.com work with any double speed 200LX? I have one I'm thinking
of upgrading and was going to use it as the driver. Will it only work with
the crystal T2T uses? TIA.

John

At 06:06 AM 5/20/98 -0400, you wrote:
>There is a freeware double speed clock driver included in the
>LXPIC.ZIP file called DSPEED.COM. I use it on my T2T double
>speed 200LX without any problem. The reason why I wrote it was
>the flickering of the screen under artificial light conditions.
>
>I increased the frame rate, resulting in a 'sharper' display
>without flicker. This may also be needed in the 4-grayscale
>LXPIC mode.
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I decided that everyone on the list needed to hear about my particular
combination of digital camera/hplx.

My want for a digital camera was mostly to fulfill the urge to slap a
couple pictures here and there on my web page and otherwise nothing else
too exciting.  I decided to purchase one, when I saw the discontinued
Casio QV-10/11 being sold around $200.  Since there was software
available for the HPLX to communicate with the QV-10, I thought that
this was the perfect combination.  Well, everywhere I looked, they were
out of these cameras, so I started shopping around for other bargains.

I finally decided that the QV-100 (QV-10 bigger, better reesolution,
larger memory brother) would be a good bet and laid my hand on one.
Well as everyone know, Casio makes some cool gadgets with plenty of
features, but as I would find out they don't actually make the best
cameras.  The Casio QVs are really fun, but are really lacking in decent
pictures quality and some useful camera features such as a flash.  So I
looked around some more found me a new toy and sold my Casio.

Well I was finally happy when I received my Konica Q-Mini.  This is a
neat little camera.  Decent pictures, flash (with red-eye reduction),
1.8" LCD, 3 image quality modes, and one of the best features to combine
with the HPLX: 2 meg removable Compact Flash memory.  This is the best
part. I can pop the CF out of the camera and into the PCMCIA adapter and
it is immediately available on my LX.  The images are standard JPEG
stored in a DOS filesystem (time & date stamped too!)s. Since receiving
my camera I have also purchased a 16meg CF from Shore Systems (whom I
highly recommend) which gives me a maximum capacity of ~300 low quality
to ~100 high quality images and lets me store files for my HPLX too.

Of course you must add some geewhiz factor for the common folks.  So I
picked up iPeX from S.U.P.E.R and customized my PHONE database just a
touch more and now I have pictures on my Datacard.  With the help of
LXPIC I can open filer, browse A: (the CF), click on the jpg, resize,
and save as a PCX image for iPeX.  i am hoping to make use of the
command line features of the latest versions of LXPIC soon.

The short of this rambling:  If you are looking for a digital camera for
use with your HPLX, I would recommend you take a look at the Konica
Q-Mini.

Thanks to the vendors, authors and support staff of the hardware,
software and archive site mentioned above.

--
Stan Hall
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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 01:09:57 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Printing to lpr
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> If you went with the "one shot and out" type of daemon, I don't think
> you would need the locking. Just as with lxtools, you could compile
> lxspool with a default port and port speed. To print from the HP, you
> would type "lxspool" and it would start waiting for a configurable
> period of time. During that time, lxtools could not use the port. You
> would then hit "print" on the HP and lxspool would take the serial
> stream, pass it to lpr for proper spooling then exit.

True enough, but I like the idea of the daemon running, waiting for a
print job, and still being able to use lxtools.

To let my thoughts ramble on:  How about a daemon running that
automagically spools incoming data to lpr *unless*, the port is locked
by other lxtools, or a special character sequence (i.e. ESC ESC ESC) was
received.  When the special sequence is received it will start
/bin/login on the port.  I know that you (Mitch) have a bazillion free
serial ports (and unlimited HP cables) and love swapping cables, but I
have a finite number of free ports and think the all-n-one combination
would be pretty cool.  Aghh, why not just keep dreaming and have the
daemon also recognize filer connect requests, so that the HP can
initiate file tranfers.   All sounds in the realm of possibility to me,
especially when those other guys are dreaming about QuakeLX :-)

Maybe we need to beg Andreas Garzotto to take time away from the paying
gig (and for that matter some of the non paying ones too) and add new
utility to lxtools.

Personally I would be up for a moderate registration fee for lxtools.

I wonder how many HPLX/Linux users are out there...

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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 17:06:13 +1000
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              Tim Pitman <ptmail@DIVERSION.COM>
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>I would love a copy of your program.  I am an avid Eudora fan/user, but
>would love to exchange THE LIST back and forth between desktop and palmtop.

For the Eudora -> Palmtop connection software, see
www.hutchins.tas.edu.au/student/tim/palmtop  It is an alpha version, so
documentation is sketchy, and it probably contains bugs.

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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 04:14:59 -0400
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Hello

I seem to be having a problem with post/lx. Everytime I try
to retrieve my mail it comes up with the error pop3
password failed. I tried reentering the pop3 password in
the setup. I can retrieve mail with lx/tcp and eudora on
the desktop without a problem so I don't believe there's a
problem with the server. Does anyone have any ideas about
what I can do? Thanks.

John

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I have a corrupt tel book file.   Is there a util out there that will attempt to repair
these .pdb files or that can extract records to a new file?  I'd hate to have to
recapture all records since last backup.  :(

Thanks
Anthony Gerada

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> Will Dspeed.com work with any double speed 200LX? I have one I'm =
thinking
> of upgrading and was going to use it as the driver. Will it only work =
with
> the crystal T2T uses? TIA.

no, it will work with any other crystal as well. DSPEED.COM uses
336 bytes resident, whereas SPD31.EXE needs 784 bytes. But it
comes with speed selection, which DSPEED cannot do. There may
be also other things SPD31.EXE does, like changing of wait
states etc.

All I can say is, I never had a problem using DSPEED and it made
my palmtop useable without flicker in artificial light.

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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 12:10:26 +0200
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Stan Hall wrote:

> I decided that everyone on the list needed to hear about my particular
> combination of digital camera/hplx..

Greatly appreciated by the ones like me who do not have very much
knowledgein either field - HP200LX and digital cameras - and want to buy a
DC.

> Well I was finally happy when I received my Konica Q-Mini.

What resolution does this camera have ? How does it compare to the new
cameraannounced by Kodak (D 260) ?

> Since receiving my camera I have also purchased a 16meg CF from Shore
> Systems (whom I highly recommend)

I share your enthusiasm for Shore Systems, I bought a Simple Technology Card
readerfor my PC and a 32 MB Flash Card from them, I guess this should also
work in a DC .

> If you are looking for a digital camera for
> use with your HPLX, I would recommend you take a look at the Konica
> Q-Mini.

As the Konica Q-Mini camera for one or the other feature might not be
suitable for everybody,it would be interesting if LXers on this list
interested in digital cameras could
tell their experience with the compatibility of different types of DCs with
the HP200LX,
especially the cameras with high resolution.
A list of minimum requirements in a camera to hook up to a 200LX would be
most
valuable information. One is obviously a compact flash card, and the storage
format,
but there might be others I am not aware of.

Thanks to Stan and to all !
Winfried Zettelmeyer
Alhaurin el Grande/Spain

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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 07:12:19 -0400
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU On Behalf Of
> Mitchell Hamm
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 9:20 PM
>
> One minor thing: This signature I am getting ready to put on is two
> lines, but when I look at it in POST/LX I have a single line with the
> strings side by side. Do you see it as one line, also?

Mitch,

I can't comment on your d/l problem because i've never seen that one but
your sig does appear on two lines on my viewer. If you use the 'reformat'
option this could be why you see the sig as one line...

Regards,

Ian C. Melville
imelv@tstt.net.tt

FRONTLINE MARKETING AGENCIES
Trinidad, West Indies
http://www.opus.co.tt/fma   frontline@opus.co.tt

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Date:         Wed, 20 May 1998 23:01:09 PST
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     Stan,

     I'm in the same boat as I picked up a 200lx 2mb that needs a new
     screen. Looks in perfect cond. otherwise. Mack at Times2tech says he
     can do this repair for $125. Thaddeus Computing says the same price.
     To do the repair yourself seems to be a bit tricky. See
     http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/inside.htm to see anothers
     adventure. In any case, If you some responses please let me know

     TIA

     Joe Buford

     jebuford@mail.hac.com

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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 08:20:49 -0400
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Hi all

Problem/challenge

Australia is/has changed to an 8 digit telephone numbering system from 7
digits..

These are different times of conversion and numbers depending on where the
number is located..

I have a DB of about 1000 records I need to change from say 07 1234567 to 07
31234567 and other adds for different area codes.

Is there an easy way to automate this??  I perceive a way under DOS but that
would entail GDB-ASCII_GDB conversion..  I would rather avoid if possible.

I am certain there are other countries doing this increase/change in
numbering..If you have some ideas on how to do the changes I would
appreciate them..

Thanks in Advance

Russell

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On Thu, 21 May 1998, Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:

> A list of minimum requirements in a camera to hook up to a 200LX would
> be most valuable information. One is obviously a compact flash card, and
> the storage format, but there might be others I am not aware of.

I use the Kodak DC20 (no longer sold), a minimalist camera with medium
res, no LCD screen and no compact flash. So your minimum requirement just
dropped a notch lower. Connectivity to the 200LX is via a serial
connector, and LXPIC allows viewing of the native image format (.img).
Other utilities I've found will convert that format to .bmp and then to
.jpg, as well as allowing the 200LX to control the camera.

I agree that CF/PCMCIA storage is a good way to go, certainly the more
convenient, but many decisions are driven by cost and other features as
well (such as size and battery life).

I also agree that a list of digital cameras that work well with the 200LX
would be useful. "Useful" meaning that the 200LX can be used to store,
view and otherwise process the images without the need for another
computer. Pricing and vendor information would also be helpful.

- Longden

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On Thu, 21 May 1998, Stan Hall wrote:

> The short of this rambling:  If you are looking for a digital camera for
> use with your HPLX, I would recommend you take a look at the Konica
> Q-Mini.

Thanks for the tip Stan!

Do you have a supplier to recommend, and how much does the camera cost?

- Longden

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The computer age is here and electronic commerce begun.

To accomadate computer verbiage, the dollar should be referred to as a byte.

If that be the case, what would be a quarter?


post your answer to this list

Don.
p.s. Think binary not monetary.

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> The computer age is here and electronic commerce begun.
> To accomadate computer verbiage, the dollar should be referred to as a byte.
> If that be the case, what would be a quarter?

That's obvious... two bits!

-Chris

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PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM wrote:
> ... The latch is no longer springy so I use 4
> tabs of velcro to hold it closed but a more cosmetically appealing
> solution for that might be to stuff something behind the latch to renew
> its "springiness", ...
        I too have a venerable and heavily-used hp100lx, whose latch (the one
that holds the top to the bottom when the unit is folded shut) spring
failed. The latch was intact & functional, but just did not snap into
place when the unit was closed. I went around with it like that for a
while since, in my bag or pocket, it is held closed by external forces.
But I noticed that the unit's halves would clap together like a set of
novelty chattering teeth and became concerned that this would cause
damage.
        I hit upon the idea of taking an inch-long piece of approximately 1/8"
wide steel clock-spring (coiled thin flat tempered steel tape), giving
it a slight bend, and inserting it into the latch on the upper half of
the unit, in the gap between the indentation in the case and the back of
the latch. It works, fits perfectly, is held in place by tension so it
is removable but will not fall out, and best of all: it was cheap
(free)! It is only visible when the unit is open, and even then just
barely. I got the spring from a defunct windup toy, but you could
probably get some from a watch repair shop. It would even be worth
buying a toy to canabalize if you really needed it. Check the thrift
shops.
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Two bits (used to be enough for a shave and a haircut).
Next?

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http://www.cnet.com  recently had a review of 28 digital cameras
including sample pictures from each one.

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> I decided that everyone on the list needed to hear about my particular
> combination of digital camera/hplx...
>
> Well I was finally happy when I received my Konica Q-Mini.  This is a
> neat little camera...

     Where did you get it & How much?

Cheers,

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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 10:42:25 -0400
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Comments: To: Kevin Calman <codex@EARTHLING.NET>

I too have a venerable and heavily-used hp100lx, whose latch (the one
>that holds the top to the bottom when the unit is folded shut) spring
>failed. The latch was intact & functional, but just did not snap into
>place when the unit was closed. I went around with it like that for a
>while since, in my bag or pocket, it is held closed by external forces.
>But I noticed that the unit's halves would clap together like a set of
>novelty chattering teeth and became concerned that this would cause
>damage.
>        I hit upon the idea of taking an inch-long piece of approximately
1/8"
>wide steel clock-spring (coiled thin flat tempered steel tape), giving
>it a slight bend, and inserting it into the latch on the upper half of
>the unit, in the gap between the indentation in the case and the back of
>the latch.

I had the same problem and solved it with a simple 1/2" long strip of rubber
band, which I pushed behind the latch catch on the top with a pen.  The
solution is not permanent, because I have had to replace the rubber band
once in the year or so I have had it.

Regards,

larry brockman

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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 08:02:25 -0700
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Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:
>
>>I bought a Simple Technology Card reader for my PC and >>a 32 MB Flash
Card from them, I guess this should also >>work in a DC .
>
A newer 3.3/5.0 volt PC Card will work in any digital camera made after 1996
equipped with a PC Card Type II slot. Older Sandisk/HP cards and 5.0 volt
cards from other mfrs are unlikely to work because of these card's firmware
and power requirements.
>
Cameras that require a CompactFlash card can easily be made compatible with
the 200LX by using a PC Card adapter. The adapter is essentially a Type II
PC Card with a cut-out for insertion of a CF Card of any capacity. CFs are
available at the moment in capacities of up to 32MB. Shore Systems will have
a CF48MB on 01 Jun for $275 including shipping and the CF-PC Card adapter.
>
Shore Systems recommends Simple Technology or Viking Components PC Cards and
CF Cards because of the speed, capacity and power requirements, as well as
price, over SanDisk. BTW, SanDisk OEMs cards for HP, Kodak, Epson, etc.
Bernie Torbik
Shore Systems http://www.shoresystems.net

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Comments: To: kilgore@PYLON.PILLAR.COM

Stan Hall wrote:

>
>My want for a digital camera was mostly to fulfill the urge to slap a
>couple pictures here and there on my web page and otherwise nothing else
>too exciting.  I decided to purchase one, when I saw the discontinued
>Casio QV-10/11 being sold around $200.  Since there was software
>available for the HPLX to communicate with the QV-10, I thought that
>this was the perfect combination.  Well, everywhere I looked, they were
>out of these cameras, so I started shopping around for other bargains.
>
I too have a QV10, for much the same reasons.  Where did you get the
software to let the HP control it?

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2-bits

Donald Collins wrote:

> The computer age is here and electronic commerce begun.
>
> To accomadate computer verbiage, the dollar should be referred to as a
> byte.
>
> If that be the case, what would be a quarter?
>
> post your answer to this list
>
> Don.
> p.s. Think binary not monetary.
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Carpman,

Are you familiar with Descent? I think the programming secret to that game is
that all the "characters" are little flying robots made of simple geometric
shapes, and move in limited paths through a maze of "tunnels". This shortcut in
rendering has got to save a lot of CPU time, which is then devoted to fast game
play. So I cast my vote for a scenario of "fast little flying robots in a 3D
maze".

For some other inspiration, take a look at LINEWARS 2.52 (or LINEWARC 1.71, an
older CGA-only version). While originally intended for 2-person play over a
modem or serial connection, in single-play mode this is an excellent 3D space
shoot-em-up. It also uses simple geometric shapes to render the enemy ships
(unfortunately, the moving starfield gets lost on the LX's LCD screen.

And as for an animal mascot, the HP developers' codenames for the 95LX, 100LX
and 200LX were "Jaguar", Cougar" and "Felix" ...so maybe Felix the Cat or some
other feline would be appropriate?

You wrote:

After seeing the post on quake 2 for the palmtop, Carpman realizes the
sorry state of palmtop games. He pulls up his 3D engine list, and after
a few stats scroll across the screen, he turns back to the e-mail and
says: ' O.K., I cant give you quake2, but I may be able to work
something up that is more similar to wolf. 3d, Send me ideas, plots,
textures, pixmaps, etc... And I think we should vote on the animal
mascot for the palmtop, so that can be the main charater.'

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> The short of this rambling:  If you are looking for a digital camera =
for
> use with your HPLX, I would recommend you take a look at the Konica
> Q-Mini.

I am having great luck with the Kodak DC-210 and you are right, compact
flash makes everything extremely simple. I have both a 4MB and a 15MB
card for mine and even sneak them in to help back up my 200LX when they
are not full of pictures.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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> Thanks for the file Al! Maybe Mitch can post it on S.U.P.E.R. for all =
to
> have easy access.

If you get it, I will post it. I have a SUPER update scheduled for
tomorrow.

Mitch

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David,
I've a 14,400 Megahertz, model XJ1144.
It seems that your new program doesn't work with my modem.
It writes CardBIOS registration successful, I hear the "click",
but the programs (DataComm, Nettamer, etc) can't talk to
the modem.
I know you wrote that it wouldn't work with all modems.
It's just to let you know...
Cheers,
Nelson


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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 11:25:38 -0700
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Thanks for the report.  Oddly enough, the program was originally written
for an XJ1144 modem, but it doesn't seem to work properly with them.

It does work for:
Simple Tech 14.4
Megahertz Allpoints radio modem
Pretec 33.6

Anybody have a modem that it works with that I don't have listed here?

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> > Thanks for the file Al! Maybe Mitch can post it on S.U.P.E.R. for all
> to
> > have easy access.
>
> If you get it, I will post it. I have a SUPER update scheduled for
> tomorrow.
>

     Here you go!

Did you ever get Tony's POSTH program running? As you can see, I did
not yet ;-)

Cheers,

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David,

I have a megahertz xj2144.  It works with 200 in Procomm Plus and the
built in Datacomm but not in ccmail.  cc:Mail can't find the modem with
200 loaded but does fine with 100 loaded.




On Thu, 21 May 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> Thanks for the report.  Oddly enough, the program was originally written
> for an XJ1144 modem, but it doesn't seem to work properly with them.
>
> It does work for:
> Simple Tech 14.4
> Megahertz Allpoints radio modem
> Pretec 33.6
>
> Anybody have a modem that it works with that I don't have listed here?
>
> --
> Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp
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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 13:00:28 -0400
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Sorry about that! Forgot to change the return address!

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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 10:25:25 -0700
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From:         "A. Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Post/LX problem
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John,

> I seem to be having a problem with post/lx. Everytime I try
> to retrieve my mail it comes up with the error pop3
> password failed. I tried reentering the pop3 password in
> the setup. I can retrieve mail with lx/tcp and eudora on
> the desktop without a problem so I don't believe there's a
> problem with the server. Does anyone have any ideas about
> what I can do? Thanks.

I agree, there is probably nothing wrong with the server. It
is most likely a setup issue, i.e. how you told Post/LX the
information it needs.

If your ISP requires a SECOND login and password for the email
(i.e. different from the one used to login to them) then
perhaps the password fails not because it is bad, but because
the login id is incorrect. Some ISPs require that you put in
the login id only. Others require that you put in the login id
like    sponsor@ftel.net instead of just    sponsor

If you login to one ISP, and grab email from another you need
to enter in SETUP the login id and password for the POP3 in
where the email is located.

If you login to same ISP and just grab email, you do not eed
to put in the login and password, Post/LX will use the login
you provided in the initial logging in to the network.

Hope this helps.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 10:25:28 -0700
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Thanks, Ian.

FYI, all, Ian is one the more ardent beta testers of WWW/LX
Plus! He suggested many of the items you all enjoy in WWW/LX
Plus now. Stop blushing, Ian! :)

He also wrote an interesting utility for WWW/LX Plus - sorting
the addressbook. Check it out in http://www.dasoft.com floow
link to "NEW WWW/LX Plus Version 2" and then to Utilities.

  Avi M. D&A

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU On Behalf =
Of
> > Mitchell Hamm
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 9:20 PM
> >
> > One minor thing: This signature I am getting ready to put on is two
> > lines, but when I look at it in POST/LX I have a single line with the
> > strings side by side. Do you see it as one line, also?
>
> Mitch,
>
> I can't comment on your d/l problem because i've never seen that one =
but
> your sig does appear on two lines on my viewer. If you use the 'reformat=
'
> option this could be why you see the sig as one line...
>
> Regards,
>
> Ian C. Melville
> imelv@tstt.net.tt
>
> FRONTLINE MARKETING AGENCIES
> Trinidad, West Indies
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Here is a quick review of the two digital cameras (DC) that I am
familiar with.

> Do you have a supplier to recommend, and how much does the camera cost?

My supplier is no longer carrying them.  From what I can tell the Konica
Q-Mini is still being actively sold and Casio QV-100 may not be, though
the Casio QV-100 has many similiar brethren. It also seems that Konica
is not carried by as many places as some of the more popular brands
(Casio/Kodak).

I paid about $275 for the Konica Q-Mini (KQM) including power adapter
and rechargable batteries (highly recommended).  Without the power
adapter, it was $250.   For the Casio QV-100 (CQV) I paid $299.

Both included software to transfer between W95 and the DC via the
included serial cable, Adobe Photoshop, Carrying case, AA batteries, and
composite video cables.

BTW, when checking out cameras.  I wouldn't go to the reviews first.  I
would check around and see what cameras are in your price range and then
check the reviews on those.  Many of the reviews I have seen will group
several cameras together by list price, but the price on the street is
extrememly variable, and the group of cameras reviewed may not be in the
same price range on the street.

For specs for both cameras please check out their respective web sites:
   http://www.konica.com/konicausa/
   http://www.casio.com/html/products/qv-100detail.html

BATTERIES
   One nice feature that you may not think about when checking out
cameras (but I know you all thinking about it with your HPLX) is
rechargable batteries.   Battery usage on a DC with an LCD screen is
high.  The KQM takes 3 AA batteries, akaline or ni-cad and will **charge
ni-cads in the camera**.   The CQV uses 4 AA and has no charging
capability.  The total on-time for both cameras is supposed to be pretty
close, but the Q-mini seemed to give consistenly longer batter life.
One major factor is the fact that all of my images were transfered from
the Casio via the serial port (high drain) while all Q-Mini were
transfered via Compact Flash (CF).  I have been getting about 70-80
images on one charge of the batteries with the Q-Mini and I have no
reliable stats as far as the CQV is concerned

FLASH
   One feature which seems to be lacking on many low end DC is a flash.
This is almost a requirement for indoor photos. Well, the KQM has one
the CQV don't. The KQM also has a red-eye reduction mode and you can
disable the flash. In addition the KQM takes better low light photos
than the Casio even without the flash.

IMAGES
   Both cameras store their images in 640x480 resolution in high quality
mode.  The KQM stores its images in JPEG format while the CQV stores in
a semi-proprietary format, CAM.  Using the included software you can
save the CAM images in other more common formats.  The KQM has 3 quality
modes and in each lower quality it reduces the quality of the JPEG image
while mantaining 640x480 resolution.  The CQV has two modes and reduces
resolution in its lower quality mode to 320x480 (same as its little
brother the QV-10).  Generally the CQV pictures were not as sharp and
clear as the KQM.  The size of the stored images may lend an explanation
(or excuse).

STORAGE
   The CQV comes with 4meg of internal flash RAM, which can store a
maximum of 64 high and 192 low quality images.  The KQM comes with 2meg
of removable compact flash RAM (CF) and stores 11 high, 23 medium, and
47 low quality images.  As you can see the CQV stores about 2-3 times
more pictures for a given amount of memory.  As hinted at before I
believe this trade off is at the expense of image quality. The CQV is
non upgradable while the KQM can use any size standard compact flash
ram.

OTHER FEATURES
   The CQV has a rotatable lens assembly which lets you be more creative
in your picture taking. You can also rotate the lens assemble 180
backwards and the image on the LCD will invert so that you can more
easily take self portraits.
   Both cameras have composite outs, so that you may hook them up to a
VCR or composite monitor for recording or video presentation.  The CQV
also allows you to hide images so that they are unavailable for veiwing
until unhidden.  This should be good for video presentation where you
may have personal images stored on the camera also.
   Both cameras will transfer images via serial able.  The cable that
comes with the CQV is much less bulky than the KQM due to a patended
design from Purple Computing and is the same as the Casio PC-Link cable.
   The KQM has white balance and and exposure controls while the CQV
just has exposure controls.  The white balance is extrememly helpful in
getting more lifelike color response in indoor lighting situations.
   Once again to see a complete feature list please check out the web
sites above.


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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 18:58:29 GMT
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On Thu, 21 May 1998 12:12:19 -0400, Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> =
wrote:

>
> Did you ever get Tony's POSTH program running? As you can see, I did
> not yet ;-)
>

Sorry my software is no where near the classic D&A standard Al! So far
I found it won't do the simplest thing that most people want :(

For me it will do a topline as above with

Editor=3DPEH.BAT $f $h $x Y T1

in POST.CFG (done in SETUP/Global options)

The docs say that having no "T1" is the same as having the "T1" - this
is wrong, the "T1" is needed.

Apologies - nothing worse that downloading something that doesn't work!

Regards, Tony

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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 13:49:35 -0500
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Larry Brockman wrote:
>

> I too have a QV10, for much the same reasons.  Where did you get the
> software to let the HP control it?

There are at least two packages on S.U.P.E.R for the Casio QV cameras.

   http://www.palmtop.net

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Date:         Tue, 19 May 1998 16:10:14 EST
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Subject:      Re: World's Smallest Packet Station

> Mitch -- You saic,
>
> >>Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think it looks a lot like something
> Felix would have handed Sean Connery in Thunderball. :) <<
>
> Hum.  James would get it from Felix Liter, the American spy, rather than from
> Q, the British armour.  Presumably Q would have had something smoother.
>
>    8)
>
> lynn m CAVENDISH
>

I have one too and its not bad looking, just not your typical radio
look. This is not necessarily bad since it can be carried at work and
looks more like an organizer or calculator than a radio, I think that
may have been the idea.

Have you seen the new dual band version, it has a built in speaker
which makes it just a little bigger but still pretty small.

Pete


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David -

What is CIC200 supposed to do that CIC100 doesn't do?

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Here is an Andreas question but I think it has relevance to the usefulness of
WWW/LX+. Has anybody tried out WWW/LX+ with any of the free web-based e-mail
programs? Now obviously those programs like Rocketmail that use Javascript
wouldn't work but has anybody tried to use WWW/LX+ on others. For those of who
use those types of services, it would be really great to use WWW/LX+ for that
purpose. The most primitive of the web based services seems to be over at
www.catholic.org which offers a free e-mail service (it is powered by Edgemail
which claims that almost any browser can use its service). Another one would
be www.mailcity.com which allows you to switich between frames and non-frames.

Another question is whether WWW/LX+ allows you to create cookies?

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Bruce Martin wrote:
> ... So I cast my vote for a scenario of "fast little flying robots in a 3D
> maze".
  In the same vein, I would love to see a port/clone of BattleZone, the
70's arcade tank sim by Atari, that was done in wireframe.
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At 10:25 AM 5/21/98 -0700, you wrote:
>John,
>
>> I seem to be having a problem with post/lx. Everytime I try
>> to retrieve my mail it comes up with the error pop3
>> password failed. I tried reentering the pop3 password in
>> the setup. I can retrieve mail with lx/tcp and eudora on
>> the desktop without a problem so I don't believe there's a
>> problem with the server. Does anyone have any ideas about
>> what I can do? Thanks.
>
>I agree, there is probably nothing wrong with the server. It
>is most likely a setup issue, i.e. how you told Post/LX the
>information it needs.

It was working. I did not change anything. It just started giving the pop3
error all of a sudden. I use multiple email boxes and also retrieve a
friends email from the same server and that one works without a hitch. Same
pop3 and smtp server info differant username and password. I tried
reentering both username and password and tried leaving them blank still
didn't work. What's up with this- it was working!!!

>Hope this helps.
>
>  Avi M. D&A
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On Thu, 21 May 1998, Jim Saklad wrote:

> David -
>
> What is CIC200 supposed to do that CIC100 doesn't do?

1) Free up memory (1K as compared to 7K)
2) Be unloadable, for use in individual Software Carousel work areas
3) For people with network cards in the palmtop, resets the CardBIOS so
you can use a flash card or modem after loading the NIC driver.  Without
rebooting.

Unfortunately, it's still limited to only a few modems, but we're working
on it...

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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 18:06:15 -0400
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              "Rodger N. Bird II" <rbird2@MICH.COM>
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Same thing with my XJ1144 modem.
Rodger

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David,
I've a 14,400 Megahertz, model XJ1144.
It seems that your new program doesn't work with my modem.
It writes CardBIOS registration successful, I hear the "click",
but the programs (DataComm, Nettamer, etc) can't talk to
the modem.
I know you wrote that it wouldn't work with all modems.
It's just to let you know...
Cheers,
Nelson


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In a message dated 98-05-21 08:22:33 EDT, you write:

<<
 I have a DB of about 1000 records I need to change from say 07 1234567 to 07
 31234567 and other adds for different area codes.

 Is there an easy way to automate this??  I perceive a way under DOS but that
 would entail GDB-ASCII_GDB conversion..  I would rather avoid if possible.

 Russell
  >>
I recommend the .gdb -> ascii approach.  the paired programs, GDBDUMP &
GDBLOAD have worked very reliably, at least for me.  I would then load the
file into Word, do the search & replace, and put it all back into the .gdb
format -- but there are plenty of good search & replace strategies.

Cordially,

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I have a Casio QV-100 and the info I read about it has been right on the
money. My advice, don't buy a digital camera without a flash OR a zoom
feature OR a LCD display. I the LCD display but not the zoom or the
flash. I still have a great time with my camera but I know I will sell
it later to get a new one with a flash and zoom. My brother in law and a
friend both bought better cameras than mine, with flash and zoom and a
higher number of pixels. One camera has the display panel and one
dosen't. You don't really need it but I find it makes the camera. I like
to check shots out on the display to see if they are what I was hoping
to capture. I also like to use it to frame the picture. And, on a minor
note, I find that when taking someone elses foto, where we are both in
the foto and they can see themselve in the display, they tend to pose
"better" (worse?) because they are actively composing the foto with me.

The new casio 770 looked nice but I am open to all brands, not just
Casio.

Richard

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Here are the facts.

1. I am but a sophmore in high school, and have only had a geometry
class as my highest math. I CANNOT make a 3d graphics engine. I just
dont understand the mathematical concepts.

2. This little palmtop in your hand is not capeable of what you want. I
think that be best we will be able to do is a flat shaded rendition of
wolf 3d. Despite how much you love this thing, you must still see its
shortcomings.

3. I DONT HAVE THE TIME TO DO THIS MY SELF! I have a life outside of my
computer, most of which involves a job. I will work on it, but I dont
want to be at the head of it.

There you go, thats how I see it right now.

ctg@geocities.com

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I highly encourage everyone to try out the Andrew3 font. I was using the
Andrew2 font previously and much prefer the new one. Just having a slash
through the zeros is a real bonus not to mention readibilty when zoomed.

Jeff


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Announcing...  (Just handed this program)

Thanks to the graciousness of another, we now have a very tiny and
universal, removable Modem Driver for the palmtop.  It replaces and
improves upon the hefty and nearly useless CIC100 built in to the palmtop.

altCIC takes about a half-kb of memory (500 bytes) and is removable.  Best
of all, it recognizes almost all modems that work on the 200lx.

Find it in the file section of the link below.
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>...
> altCIC takes about a half-kb of memory (500 bytes) and is removable.  =
Best
> of all, it recognizes almost all modems that work on the 200lx.
>
Works on my EXP1414LXM where CIC200 did not. I have few more PCMCIA
Modems at home that I was going to try with CIC200 when I got home, so
I'll try altCIC as well and report.

BTW, If anyone out there needs a card or pocket MODEM drop me a line
and we'll deal!

Cheers,


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John,

> It was working. I did not change anything. It just started giving the =
pop3
> error all of a sudden. I use multiple email boxes and also retrieve a
> friends email from the same server and that one works without a hitch. =
Same
> pop3 and smtp server info differant username and password. I tried
> reentering both username and password and tried leaving them blank =
still
> didn't work. What's up with this- it was working!!!

Well, i was gonna say the program got corrupted, but you are
retrieveing other people's email fine, so that shot that one
down. The only thing I can think of are two:

1. You _did_ change something, and can't remember it - maybe.

2. The server changed.

So it seems to me these are the only possibilities. Maybe try
again to run WWWSETUP.EXE and re-enter your password?

  Avi M. D&A

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It also works with my Simple Tech 33.6 modem, where CIC200 does not.  On
the downside, it _doesn't_ work with my 3Com (formerly Megahertz)
Allpoints wireless modem, and CIC200 does work on that one.  It's
peculiar...

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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 23:17:42 -0400
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of
> Tony Hutchins
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 1998 2:58 PM
>
> > Did you ever get Tony's POSTH program running? As you can see, I did
> > not yet ;-)
>
> Sorry my software is no where near the classic D&A standard Al! So far
> I found it won't do the simplest thing that most people want :(

I beg to differ, Tony.

Although i got more of a headstart using PostH than most others i have found
the program extremely useful! I like the interactive mode of operation but
find the passive mode is a real gem - never once locked my machine and
always produced what i wanted. When you refer to the 'classic D&A standard'
i'm sure you're referring to a slick GUI and outstanding functionality and
although the familiar pal interface isn't there the functionality surely is
IMHO.

It is difficult to fashion any one program to cater to the diverse needs of
the hp email user but PostH is far better than your earlier comments
suggest...

Regards,

Ian C. Melville
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At 10:15 AM 5/21/98 -0400, you wrote:
>http://www.cnet.com  recently had a review of 28 digital cameras
>including sample pictures from each one.

Could you be more specific as to where in CNET -- I could not find the review.

Thanks.

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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 21:18:07 -0700
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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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I'm taking my 200LX and Kodak DC20 on vacation to Ireland, Scotland,
and England.  For those who are interested, I'm posting a web page
journal of the trip at http://www.garlic.com/~childers/uktrip .  With
any luck, I'll update it daily.

Awaiting our flight tomorrow,
Bill Childers

P.S.:  Anyone know how the Energizer Lithium cells perform under modem
load?  I brought 4 pairs, hopefully I can make it two weeks on those
without resorting to the AC Adapter.

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 10:17:54 +1200
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> From: Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Data massage
> Date: Friday, 22 May 1998 00:20
> Hi all
> Problem/challenge
> Australia is/has changed to an 8 digit telephone numbering system from 7
> digits..
> These are different times of conversion and numbers depending on where
the
> number is located..
> I have a DB of about 1000 records I need to change from say 07 1234567 to
07
> 31234567 and other adds for different area codes.
> Is there an easy way to automate this??  I perceive a way under DOS but
that
> would entail GDB-ASCII_GDB conversion..  I would rather avoid if
possible.

No.

That's the short answer! If the numbers ALL had EXACTLY the same change/s
needed, then yes, but if the change is variable, then it looks bad.

One idea I had was using remkey, available from super, which connects your
desktop keyboard to the LX via your PC so you can do a lot of
"knuckle-boning"
with more room for your fingers than on the tiny LX keyboard. This is
assuming
you don't have the connectivity pac.

If you do the adjustment in the LX, you can write several macros to speed
up the
typing, like {Enter}{Enter}{Home}{Right}{Right}{Right}3{F10} to add 3 to a
record
from the list view, and maybe other macros to add different numbers from
both
record and list view.

The other helpful idea is to use Subsets to group the records into set
number
changes.

HTH

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 13:50:18 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: ANN: New Modem Driver (altCIC) CIC100 Replacement
Comments: cc: hplx <hplx@COMPORTS.COM>
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hplx <hplx@COMPORTS.COM> writes:
> Thanks to the graciousness of another, we now have a very tiny and
> universal, removable Modem Driver for the palmtop.  It replaces and
> improves upon the hefty and nearly useless CIC100 built in to the palmtop.
>
> altCIC takes about a half-kb of memory (500 bytes) and is removable.  Best
> of all, it recognizes almost all modems that work on the 200lx.

Do you have the source code to this ?

Then we can merge altCIC and CIC200 and make one MegaCIC program that
handles all the modems, is removable, and only takes up 42 bytes :-)

Remember: If you're not selling it, then please provide the source
code ...  See my HP200LX Source Code Home Page for more details.

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 00:41:16 EDT
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Comments: To: ebacroft@jps.net, jesswood@ix.netcom.com, KNorris1@aol.com,
          LthrTools@aol.com, DSchlim@aol.com, Shnookie24@aol.com
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This is really good for all of us Window$ users!   Hope you enjoy!    Cathy

Win2000
The following are new Windows messages that are under consideration
for the planned Windows 2000

  1) Smash forehead on keyboard to continue.
  2) Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue.
  3) Press any key to continue or any other key to quit.
  4) Press any key except... no, No, NO, NOT THAT ONE!
  5) Press Ctrl-Alt-Del now for IQ test.
  6) Close your eyes and press escape three times.
  7) Bad command or file name! Go stand in the corner.
  8) This will end your Windows session. Do you want to play another
       game?
  9) Windows message"Error saving file! Format drive now? (Y/Y)"
10) This is a message from God Gates"Rebooting the world.
       Please log off."
11) To "shut down" your system, type "WIN."
12) BREAKFAST.SYS halted... Cereal port not responding.
13) COFFEE.SYS missing... Insert cup in cup holder and press any key.
14) CONGRESS.SYS corrupted... Reboot Washington D.C? (Y/N)
15) File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
16) Bad or missing mouse. Spank the cat? (Y/N)
17) Runtime Error 6D at 417A32CFIncompetent User.
18) Error reading FAT recordTry the SKINNY one? (Y/N)
19) WinErr 16547LPT1 not found. Use backup. (PENCIL & PAPER.SYS)
20) User ErrorReplace user.
21) Windows VirusScan 1.0 - "Windows foundRemove it? (Y/N)"
22) Welcome to Microsoft's World - Your Mortgage is Past Due...
23) If you are an artist, you should know that Bill Gates owns you
      and all your future creations. Doesn't it feel nice to have
      security?
24) Required Government Warning  After we got caught in cahoots
      with the hardware manufacturers for trying to needlessly fill
      your hard drives, the following message is now required as you
      save your files in Word.
      "Word has detected that you don't wish to save your text file
      as a lumpy and space wasting .doc format filled with potential
      viruses.  Would you like to save your old outdated ascii file
      as a Word file anyway?"
25) Your hard drive has been scanned and all stolen software titles
       have been deleted.  The police are on the way.

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Subject:      Re: Quake 2

I agree with this one.  John Kennedy wrote a great clone (better even
than original BattleZone) for WinCE.  It is about the only thing I miss
from my C120.

Larry

On Thu, 21 May 1998 16:33:19 -0500 Kevin Calman <codex@EARTHLING.NET>
writes:

>  In the same vein, I would love to see a port/clone of BattleZone,
>the
>70's arcade tank sim by Atari, that was done in wireframe.
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Hi There!

> Here are the facts.
>

> 2. This little palmtop in your hand is not capeable of what you want. I
> think that be best we will be able to do is a flat shaded rendition of
> wolf 3d. Despite how much you love this thing, you must still see its
> shortcomings.
>

There you are wrong! I am not sure how to do it, but when old DOS games
such as In The Eye Of The Beholder, Grand Prix & Death Track, runs fast
and have much action with great "real" graphics on the HP 200LX. Then =
it's
possible to do a "Quake game". But what's a must is a lots of time for =
the
programming!

Jorgen

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>>I highly encourage everyone to try out the Andrew3 font. <snip>

>>Jeff

Well, I tried andrew3, but I switched back to jinifont.

Different horses for different courses.

lynn m. cavendish

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 09:47:51 -0400
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              "Joseph K. Hwang" <joseph.hwang@YALE.EDU>
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Can I get a copy of the file? I would appreciate if someone sends me one.
Thanks.

>I highly encourage everyone to try out the Andrew3 font. I was using the
>Andrew2 font previously and much prefer the new one. Just having a slash
>through the zeros is a real bonus not to mention readibilty when zoomed.
>
>Jeff
>
>
>    *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
>    |Jeff Johns  KF4KGQ  Reserve Captain  Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
>    |Email: jeffj@scott.net   Urgent AlphaPager Email: pagejeff@scott.net|
>    |QTH: Birmingham, Alabama USA ------ Posted via an HP200LX Palmtop PC|
>    *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
>
>
>Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.08alpha) REGISTERED
>
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   hplx <hplx@COMPORTS.COM> writes:
   > Thanks to the graciousness of another, we now have a very tiny and
   > universal, removable Modem Driver for the palmtop.  It replaces
   >and  improves upon the hefty and nearly useless CIC100 built in to
   >the palmtop.
   > altCIC takes about a half-kb of memory (500 bytes) and is
   >removable.  Best  of all, it recognizes almost all modems that
   >work on the 200lx.
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 16:23:47 +0000
Message-ID: <19980522162345.AAA22979@12.64.39.212>

I can report that altCIC works on both my XJ1144 and XJ3144 on ccMail,
NetTamer and Datacomm.

Memory usage is truly impressive:

        Driver  mem/c   total memory avail
        none                            601424
        cic100  6896            594496
        altCIC                  600848

Conventional memory loses only about 576 bytes after loading altCIC.

Sorta like olestra for the LX. Hopefully there's no side-effects.

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 12:27:46 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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> Sorta like olestra for the LX. Hopefully there's no side-effects.

I have heard that altCIC leaves brown stains on your modem.

(I just couldn't resist!)

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 12:14:04 -0700
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On Fri, 22 May 1998, Longden Loo wrote:

> Conventional memory loses only about 576 bytes after loading altCIC.
>
> Sorta like olestra for the LX. Hopefully there's no side-effects.

Serial port leakage?

Sorry, couldn't resist... <duck> <dodge>

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 09:59:47 -0700
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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What I wish for is an application or macro that would take Lotus Agenda
items from, say, the PLANNER.AG file (with dates, etc.) and put them into
an *.ADB file format that the Appointment book on the HP can read (merge).
Or maybe both ways?

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 13:30:13 -0400
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Hi All:

     As promised, here are the results of my PCMCIA MODEM tests:

I could not CIC200 to work with any of my MODEMS :-(

I got altCIC to work with:

EXP1414LXM

AT&T KeepInTouch Express 14.4

Apollo(EXP) 33.6i
     note: this MODEM makes a static noise while on-line but works OK,
     anybody else use one of these?

TDK CyberExpress 3000 (33.6)

note: I tested all these MODEMs on AC, so I can't vouch how well the 33.6
MODEMs hold up on AA's

Cheers,

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 11:06:00 -0700
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John,

I find it interesting. I did not think you can see the
password being sent. But maybe you can...

If you'd like us to look at the log, please send it to
support@dasoft.com.

I have no explanation to why the server rejects your stuff. I
am sure it is not a Microsoft thing that says "aha! A product
by D&A - well, reject thse bastards!"

I doubt that you set all of the other things EXACTLY as you
did Post/LX, since I believe they are not doing anything more
"rocket science" than we do. And in fact, by your own
testimony, you can use Post/LX with another login id (your
froend's?)

Anyway I'll be glad to look at the log, if you really tink it
will help, but I am convinced now that your setup has one tiny
little someting that prevents successful email with _your_ id.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 14:14:38 -0400
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this is the exact URL for the Cnet review of 28 digital cameras.

http://www.computers.com/reviews/comparative/intro/0,23,0-21-257997,00.html?s
t.co.crci..cri

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On Fri, 22 May 1998 08:56:00 -0400, LYNN CAVENDISH, AIR-2.3.1.2 wrote:

>Well, I tried andrew3, but I switched back to jinifont.

I tried it and found it not too dissimilar from the helv100 I have been
using, and noted with pleasure the 5kb saving in free memory. I reckon =
that
is a good enough reason to stay with it.

>Different horses for different courses.

Indeed.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 10:23:52 -0400
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A 50 cent piece is a nibble...

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Joe Barrera mailto:joebar@MICROSOFT.COM
                Sent:   Thursday, May 21, 1998 9:44 AM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        Re: HPLX-L Computer riddle.

                Two bits (used to be enough for a shave and a haircut).
                Next?

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allen solof wrote:
>
> this is the exact URL for the Cnet review of 28 digital cameras.
>
> http://www.computers.com/reviews/comparative/intro/0,23,0-21-257997,00.html?s
> t.co.crci..cri

I had slight problems following links from the URL above so here is the
one I used.

http://www.computers.com/reviews/comparative/intro/0,23,0-21-257997,00.html?st.co.cat.hl.digicams

(man, that's ugly)

BTW, check out the Canon Powershot 350.  I swear this is the same as the
Konica Q-Mini.  If even if it isn't the specs are identical including
physically.

--
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Pillar Communication
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Can anybody tell me what is happening with the development of  dos for =
WinCE machines.

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Subject:      Re: Dos for WinCE

> Can anybody tell me what is happening with the development of  dos for WinCE machines.
>
Ian Dean has just released a new preproduction version that supports
CGA graphics modes as well as PAL graphics modes used by hplx
programs. This is still a demo / preproduction version and has a nag
screen every few minutes. So far reports have been very favorable to
it, one use has Windows 3.0 running (as a lark really) and several
older DOS games have been run, much to the joy of their owners.

Pete

PS. I don't have the web page address handy but a search on XTCE
would probably find it. It is a uk page and has pyram-id in it if I
remember correctly.


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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On Thu, 21 May 1998 11:25:38 -0700, David Sargeant articulated...

>It does work for:
>Simple Tech 14.4
>Megahertz Allpoints radio modem
>Pretec 33.6

>Anybody have a modem that it works with that I don't have listed here?

Works fine with my Megahertz CC4144.

Although I've noticed one thing..  If I use the modem in Datacomm, exit
datacomm (serial port closed) then try to use the port in DOS, it can't find
the modem.  But if I remove and reinsert the modem it's fine.

As I've said before, I applaud your effort!  :)

--
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   >BTW, check out the Canon Powershot 350.  I swear this is the same
   >as the Konica Q-Mini.  If even if it isn't the specs are identical
   >including physically.
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 20:32:26 +0000
Message-ID: <19980522203224.AAA11746@12.64.8.229>

Several of the Konica Q-Mini's are being sold in Ebay (the online auction
website, I think it's something like www.ebay.com), and at least one
seller mentions a magazine review that says the Konica and Canon are
made by the same people.

The units being sold in Ebay seem to be topping out at $300.

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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I have four (4) F1011A ac adapters new in the box.

$20 US each including domestic shipping

Email me off the list if interested.

Thanks!

Mitch

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I have recently been checking out HV and what a great program!  My problem
is that I would like to use it to read stock market prospectuses that I
download from an on-line service that converts the SEC-Edgar files to HTML.
 The files are typically 500K and larger.  HV loads great and takes a
minute or two to index, but if I attempt to use the Find function to move
to a specific section of the document, HV moves to the first occurrence of
the search and freezes up.  A hard reboot (CTRL-SHFT-ON) is the only way to
unfreeze.  HV seems to be reindexing after I search but that is when the
freeze up occurs.

Any comments on other experiences would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeff

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At 02:07 PM 5/22/98 -0500, you wrote:
>http://www.computers.com/reviews/comparative/intro/0,23,0-21-257997,00.html
?st.co.cat.hl.digicams
>Stan Hall
>Pillar Communication
>http://www.telepath.com/pillar

Thanks for the URL.  The article was very helpful.  CNET is recommending
the EPSON 550 @$299 with no LCD or flash but great picture quality.  My
problem is I don't recognize the removable media option "Smartmedia"?  Is
this different from CF and can it be used with the 200LX.  The picture
comparisons in the article were very useful.

Thanks for replies!
Jeff

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Mitch,

 I'd be interested in one if they're still available.

Thanks,

Mike
Phoenix, AZ.




>I have four (4) F1011A ac adapters new in the box.
>
>$20 US each including domestic shipping
>
>Email me off the list if interested.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Mitch
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Anyone have any success (or failure) stories with a Megahertz XJ4288 Modem?
TIA,
James

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No the megahertz should work. I use myself the simpletech 33.6 which
use less power and has a low price.
Michel




---James Scheffler <srakkt@TIAC.NET> wrote:
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> Anyone have any success (or failure) stories with a Megahertz XJ4288
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> TIA,
> James
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I've recently had a strange problem come up on my 200LX using the built
in appointment PIM.

On some appointments the alarm goes off just as it should (I usually set
it so it goes off 20 mins before the appointment).  Then for some
strange reason it'll go off an hour later (that is to say 40 mins after
the beginning of the appt).

This doesn't do it on any particualar pattern.  Some appts do it and
some don't.  I had one appt that kept re-alarming every hour until 4
hours later when I finally went in an deleted the appt. and it stopped
it.

It's never NOT gone off as scheduled, but I'm getting to where I don't
trust it anymore due to the 'extra' alarms.

I even started over with a new appt file and it still does it.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,

Marty

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Hello everyone

I was wondering if anyone has researched or tried increasing
the charging current on the 200LX. Does anyone know how it is
limited? Thanks

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I need help using BuddyDOS. I use Maxdos. Should I install
BuddyDOS as yet another TSR in autoexec.bat or just install it
in each dos or maxdos session, then remove it upon conclusion
of the dos/maxdos session? If in autoexec.bat, in what order
should one install Buddy, BuddyDOS, and maxdos? What about a
font loader? Your suggestions appreciated.

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I used Eudora on my desktop under Win 3.11 and 95, but after
getting PostLX and WWWLX, I have stopped using Eudora, finding
PostLX better for my needs. Now I want to use Post LX on the
desktop and synchronize the messages I keep. Any ideas?

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>I used Eudora on my desktop under Win 3.11 and 95, but after
>getting PostLX and WWWLX, I have stopped using Eudora,
>finding
>PostLX better for my needs. Now I want to use Post LX on the
>desktop and synchronize the messages I keep. Any ideas?

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There's a program you need to emulate the cga graphics I
think its called cgahelp or something like that. Its
availible from both the super site and the d&a software
site. Use that then you can run Post on the desktop just
like any other dos program.

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I use both Maxdos and Buddy, and like the Buddy features. Should I install
BuddyDOS as yet another TSR in autoexec.bat or just install it in each dos
or maxdos session, then remove it when the session is finished? If in
autoexec.bat, in what order should maxdos, buddy and buddyDOS appear? What
about a font loader? Suggestions are appreciated.

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Jeff,

> I have recently been checking out HV and what a great program!  My =
problem
> is that I would like to use it to read stock market prospectuses that I
> download from an on-line service that converts the SEC-Edgar files to =
HTML.
>  The files are typically 500K and larger.  HV loads great and takes a
> minute or two to index, but if I attempt to use the Find function to =
move
> to a specific section of the document, HV moves to the first occurrence =
of
> the search and freezes up.  A hard reboot (CTRL-SHFT-ON) is the only =
way to
> unfreeze.  HV seems to be reindexing after I search but that is when =
the
> freeze up occurs.

I routinely open 2MB files with HV, and some even have HTML
tags... I cannot imagine what the problem may be, maybe a
corrupt version? An old one? (New is available on our Web page
http://www.dasoft.com and cilck on the HV icon at the top, and
then click for the latest version link.

Make sure you have the product installed in its own
subdirectory, not in a ROOT directory. Make sure you have
space on the drive!

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 22:14:23 -0400
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I am not going to take credit for this one as Jorgen figured it out earlier
today... (But I was close!!!)

I wanted to have buddydos available in POST/LX, but I could not afford the
memory footprint of a full Buddy TSR as it prevented PESPELL from running.
Therefore, I loaded buddy.com after maxdos; anything after maxdos is not taken
into a maxdos session.

To get buddydos to load under maxdos, I did a batch file called runpost.bat
that looks like this:

@echo off
c:
cd\wwwlx
buddydos
www -d !post.exe
buddydos -u
waiter -s 1

The last line is a little utility that just waits for up to five seconds. This
had to be there to give buddydos time to exit before maxdos shut the door. My
AppMgr line looks like this:

c:\bin\maxdos.com c:\batch\runpost.bat|

Works great! I have almost all the Buddy SmartCap stuff in PalEdit under
POST/LX. Life is good.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

p.s. - Yes, I will add waiter to SUPER. :)

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 19:21:31 -0700
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> I used Eudora on my desktop under Win 3.11 and 95, but after
> getting PostLX and WWWLX, I have stopped using Eudora, finding
> PostLX better for my needs. Now I want to use Post LX on the
> desktop and synchronize the messages I keep. Any ideas?

You need to look in the Help File for Running from Desk Top. but you =
needed to
download and install PalRun from the SUPER Site.


BTW: POST/LX works and looks goood on the Desk Top.

Good Luck!



Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.0.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Norm,

> I used Eudora on my desktop under Win 3.11 and 95, but after
> getting PostLX and WWWLX, I have stopped using Eudora, finding
> PostLX better for my needs.

:-) Thanks. And to think you bought it new first time at the
end of April!

> Now I want to use Post LX on the
> desktop and synchronize the messages I keep. Any ideas?

Don't have any ideas...

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 22:36:53 -0400
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Does anyone know how to increase the charging time in
ABC/LX past 16 hours? I use a set of 1300 mAH Nimh
batteries and find it takes about 18 hours to get them
fully charged so I would like to set the max time longer
but find it won't go higher than 16 hours. Does anyone know
how to do this?

Also does Post/LX version 2 handle attachments better than
version 1. Can you attsach files and will it automatically
save an attachment in an email message as a file. I'm
thinking of upgrading to version 2 (I bought mine after
January so I can get a free upgrade) but don't see any
reason to upgrade unless it handles attachments better
since that's the only thing I use that version 1 lacks.

Thanks.

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 22:40:45 -0400
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> David,
> I've a 14,400 Megahertz, model XJ1144.
> It seems that your new program doesn't work with my modem.
> It writes CardBIOS registration successful, I hear the "click",
> but the programs (DataComm, Nettamer, etc) can't talk to
> the modem.
> I know you wrote that it wouldn't work with all modems.
> It's just to let you know...
> Cheers,
> Nelson
>
I have the Megahertz XJ1144 modem, and cic200 works fine with it. I am =
going
to try altCIC as well, though 'cause its so small. Isn't it funny that I
used "'cause", when it has just as many keystrokes as "because" ?

Darren.

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 12:41:15 +1000
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> The computer age is here and electronic commerce begun.
>
> To accomadate computer verbiage, the dollar should be referred to as a byte.
> If that be the case, what would be a quarter?

I believe that, technically, that's a "nip".

Though I'm not convinced that electronic commerce has yet began
(unless you define it broadly, to include EDI, telephone order contracts,
etc). To be sure, there's lots of advertising (also hype), but little
actual commerce.

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 22:52:21 -0400
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For anyone whos interested

Post/LX is working for me now. I called the University
helpline and they had me change my pop3 server address to
another one. Then it worked. Strange I've been using the
old one ever since I've had the account and never had a
problem with it before. Anyone have any ideas why this
would happen?

Let me also thank Avi of D&A he jumped right in on the
problem and helped me get it fixed. Thanks.

John

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 23:14:15 EDT
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My computer coughed its hard drive and I lost some mail. I am now receiving a
list of messages to request. I'd like to just get the messages straight up, or
in a group. Can I still do this?

If Jeff (or someone) could email me directly (Class3Dep@AOL.com), I would
appreciate it so much.

Thanks,
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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Subject:      Maxdos syntax

     As I mentioned the other day, I had to overwrite my appmgr.dat to
restore my 200LX configuration and ccmail specifically.  Now, I can't
seem to get the right syntax for Maxdos.  in Sys manager, edit
applications.  The docs don't appear to explain it exactly right, for I
am doing that, for example,

c:\maxdos.com  c:\1st\air2\1st.exe|
is what I have, and I have also tried putting different memory settings
after the pipe (|) to no avail.  I know my autoexec.bat is right for I
haven't xhanged that, and I had maxdos working before.  What else am I
missing here?  TIA.

Jim

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>>appmgr.dat to
>restore my 200LX configuration and ccmail specifically.  Now, I
>can't
>seem to get the right syntax for Maxdos.  in Sys manager,
>edit
>applications.  The docs don't appear to explain it exactly
>right, for I
>am doing that, for example,

>c:\maxdos.com  c:\1st\air2\1st.exe|
>is what I have, and I have also tried putting different memory
>settings
>after the pipe (|) to no avail.  I know my autoexec.bat is
>right for I
>haven't xhanged that, and I had maxdos working before.  What
>else am I
>missing here?  TIA.

>Jim

If you are using the exact same syntax as whats in this
message you need to put a space just before the | sign like
c:\bin\maxdos.com a:\whatever |
Hope this is right and helps.

John



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Date:         Thu, 21 May 1998 22:44:43 -0700
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Subject:      OB & Flash

Bernard,

Any word on whether those cards of yours will work on the Omnibook 300
and up?

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 22:07:51 -0700
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              "Bernard A. Torbik" <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
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If anyone knows the name of the driver used by Ace for PC memory cards on
the 100LX, and if/where it can obtained, would they please let me know.
Thanks in advance.
>
Bernie Torbik

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Subject:      Flashcard acting flaky

I'm having considerable trouble with my 32MB Simple Tech Flashcard. I
don't think I did anything unusual, but as of last night, it has not
wanted to be recognized on my 100lx (and yes, I have the needed driver).
It will come up occasionally, though. I took one of the happy occasions
and backed it up to my desktop (That's alot of time on a serial cable!).
It only "disappeared" once during the ordeal.

I tried it out on a friends 200lx, and it acted the same way. I plugged a
1MB Scram card in my machine's slot, and it seemed to run fine. So I
figure it has got to be the card. I've run CHKDSK twice (when I could),
but it showed no errors. Any ideas of what might have happened? If I
reformat it, will that maybe fix it?

The card is only 4 months old, so I'm hoping (if it comes to that) that I
will have no problem with it being replaceable under warranty (it has a 5
year warranty according to the packaging). Thank God, I saved that
receipt!

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 02:08:57 -0400
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              "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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John Allen <jballen@SPRYNET.COM> wrote:

I have thought about starting a personal programming project aimed at
producing something "useful" for the palmtop, but I can't see any obvious
gaps in the available applications.

Any suggestions?

=========================

I have a suggestion:

Users of Software Carousel could use a text cut and paste utility to permit
cuting text from one application (work area) and pasting it into another
application (work area).

Ideally, it would work with the palmtop's Fn cut, copy, and paste keys.

The DOSCLIP program on SUPER, while very useful, only permits cut & paste
between the System Manager applications and a DOS application running under
System Manager (using the clipboard).

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 02:14:26 -0400
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Maxdos syntax

   >>c:\maxdos.com  c:\1st\air2\1st.exe|
   >>is what I have, and I have also tried putting different memory
   >>settings after the pipe (|) to no avail.  I know my autoexec.bat is
   >>right for I haven't xhanged that, and I had maxdos working before.
   >>What else am I missing here?  TIA.
   >>Jim
Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 06:14:23 +0000
Message-ID: <19980523061421.AAA27457@12.64.8.24>

   >If you are using the exact same syntax as whats in this
   >message you need to put a space just before the | sign like
   >c:\bin\maxdos.com a:\whatever |
   >Hope this is right and helps.

I use MaxDOS a lot, and I don't have a space before the vertical bar.

Maybe Jim can describe what happens when he encouters the problem. The
syntax he described looked OK to me.

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 05:19:04 -0400
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              stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl <stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE>
Subject:      Power control for PCMCIA
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With the new ALTCIC and a 32MB upgrade it would be very
desirable to have a utility similar to SERCTL for the PCMCIA
port, allowing you to leave the modem in the port and switching
POWER ON to the port only if the modem is in use. As we all
know, modems have significant power requirements even in
standby mode. (40mA for my XJ1144)

Most desirable would be a TSR (ATLCIC enhancement?) to do the
job. Did anybody already investigate in this direction and
found out, that you cannot control PCMCIA power? If not,
I will put it on top of my ToDo list.

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 03:23:27 -0700
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              MBpresent MBpresent <mbpresent@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         MBpresent MBpresent <mbpresent@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      FOR SALE 2*HP200LX WITH A LOT SOFTWARE
Comments: cc: mbpresent@hotmail.com
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For sale:
Two HP200LX 2MB one German version and one English the English version
has a broken display but you can change it from the german version.

Software: registered, WWWLX and QUICKLX English version.

Incl. Parallel Printer cable,Serial Cable, nice bag and a 20MB Flash
disk.

Everything for 320$ without Flashcard 100$

Interest---mbpresent@hotmail.com
Michel



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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 23:26:36 PST
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Subject:      PCMCIA Driver for HP100lx

     Greetings,

     I just purchased a 32Mb Flash card for my 100lx, but am now in need of
     a driver to allow the 100lx to communicate with it. Can anyone refer
     me to a web site with the appropriate driver and instructions? TIA

     BTW-will the driver built into the 200lx work?

     Any help appreciated

     Joe Buford:-{>}

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 07:42:09 -0400
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Hi all

Is there any software or information suitable for the LX for scuba
diving..like dive tables etc? P/V calcs..

TIA

Russell

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 06:01:57 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Flashcard acting flaky
Comments: To: David C Smalley <dsmalley@JUNO.COM>
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Hi, David:
>
The card is warranteed unconditionally for 5-yrs and Simple offers
ExpressExchange from here in Orange Co. If you don't have their number, let
me know.
>
When and where did you get the 32MB from? It sounds as if it's one of the
older 5.0volt cards, in which case you ought to exchange it for a dual
voltage card. Best idea would be to get a CF32MB with PC Card adapter.
>
Bernie Torbik

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Subject: Flashcard acting flaky


I'm having considerable trouble with my 32MB Simple Tech Flashcard. I
don't think I did anything unusual, but as of last night, it has not
wanted to be recognized on my 100lx (and yes, I have the needed driver).
It will come up occasionally, though. I took one of the happy occasions
and backed it up to my desktop (That's alot of time on a serial cable!).
It only "disappeared" once during the ordeal.

I tried it out on a friends 200lx, and it acted the same way. I plugged a
1MB Scram card in my machine's slot, and it seemed to run fine. So I
figure it has got to be the card. I've run CHKDSK twice (when I could),
but it showed no errors. Any ideas of what might have happened? If I
reformat it, will that maybe fix it?

The card is only 4 months old, so I'm hoping (if it comes to that) that I
will have no problem with it being replaceable under warranty (it has a 5
year warranty according to the packaging). Thank God, I saved that
receipt!

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 09:06:20 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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I have been informed that altCIC is a hacked copy of Japanese commercial
software from Hiroyuki Sekiya. It is not distributable as it was part of a
commercial collection accompanying the "HP Software Bible" and has been removed
from the SUPER Site.

This is a public apology to Mr. Sekiya for my oversight.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Fri, 22 May 1998 20:45:43 -0500
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From:         Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dos for WinCE

It has been released for about a month now.  It is currently a
demonstration as the author works on distribution.  Those who've tried it
have gotten everything from Windows 3.0 to the ELKS (Linux) working on
it.  Few of the machines out there are fast enough to allow it to scream
like a double-speed 200lx will though.

I can't recall the address to download right now.  Search for Ian Dean
and XTCE in DejaNews or the Net.  I'll dig around and see if I have it
somewhere.

Larry Zimmerman

On Fri, 22 May 1998 15:02:14 -0400 Gary Christian <tianchri@IDIRECT.COM>
writes:
>Can anybody tell me what is happening with the development of  dos for
>=
>WinCE machines.
>

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Will buy your Two 200lx's without the flash card for $100 if still available

thanks

Jim Getz
2210 Wilson Avenue
Hot Springs,  SD 57747
605-745-3897


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From: MBpresent MBpresent <mbpresent@YAHOO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Saturday, May 23, 1998 4:26 AM
Subject: FOR SALE 2*HP200LX WITH A LOT SOFTWARE


>For sale:
>Two HP200LX 2MB one German version and one English the English version
>has a broken display but you can change it from the german version.
>
>Software: registered, WWWLX and QUICKLX English version.
>
>Incl. Parallel Printer cable,Serial Cable, nice bag and a 20MB Flash
>disk.
>
>Everything for 320$ without Flashcard 100$
>
>Interest---mbpresent@hotmail.com
>Michel

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 11:03:33 -0400
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              Ian Melville <imelv@TSTT.NET.TT>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of
> John Musielewicz
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 10:37 PM
>
> Also does Post/LX version 2 handle attachments better than
> version 1. Can you attsach files and will it automatically
> save an attachment in an email message as a file. I'm
> thinking of upgrading to version 2 (I bought mine after
> January so I can get a free upgrade) but don't see any
> reason to upgrade unless it handles attachments better
> since that's the only thing I use that version 1 lacks.

John,

There are many things that version 2 improves on when compared with its
predecessor and yes, v.2.0 does a marvelous job of attachments. You may not
only attach a file to a msg as in Eudora, Outlook or any of the 'big'
mailers but you may attach two, three or more... to any *one* msg! Pick.exe
helps makes light work of finding files on the palmtop that you want to
attach also.

Decoding attachments to msgs you receive with v.2.0 is also very easy (you
may also set the path for saving the attachment or rename the attached
file/s on-the-fly or use a default path).

If i told you that as an added bonus you could choose your default font for
viewing msgs - independent of your palmtop font - would this also help sway
you? And that the point size/font file is changeable *while in the viewer*
would that get you off the fence...? :-)

Regards,

Ian C. Melville
imelv@tstt.net.tt

FRONTLINE MARKETING AGENCIES
Trinidad, West Indies
http://www.opus.co.tt/fma   frontline@opus.co.tt

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 10:02:35 -0500
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              "M. C. Beutler" <mycroft_h@BIGFOOT.COM>
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Subject:      SDK and Assembler for the 200LX

I am looking for an Software Developers Kit and any information on
Assembly language tools for the Hp200.  As I understamd it, the
micro on the HP200LX is the 80186 "Hornet".  Does the Manufacturer
have any sort of white paper on this variety of xx86 processor?

If anyone knows where I might purchase an SDK and/or assembler for the
200, please contact me.

Thanks for any information.

-
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      mark beutler     mycroft_h@bigfoot.com

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 01:59:41 -0300
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Hi!

Can someone of you tell me where can I find the next items:

1.Cable for ETHERLINK LAN PC CARD (10baseT and Coaxial cable) and it's
drivers software.
2.A replace screen for the Newton 120 that have cracked touchscreen part
being intact the LCD screen showing display ok. Just I can't enter data on
this but I can see perfectly the system display.
Is possible buy the touchscreen part only?

Sorry for my "half" HPLX related content mail...


Thanks for your time.


pablo KIM HS

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 08:15:02 -0700
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I checked into it for Goin' Postal.  Mack said he was pretty sure the
PCMCIA power is directly wired to the power supply. :-(

> With the new ALTCIC and a 32MB upgrade it would be very
> desirable to have a utility similar to SERCTL for the PCMCIA
> port, allowing you to leave the modem in the port and switching
> POWER ON to the port only if the modem is in use. As we all
> know, modems have significant power requirements even in
> standby mode. (40mA for my XJ1144)
>
> Most desirable would be a TSR (ATLCIC enhancement?) to do the
> job. Did anybody already investigate in this direction and
> found out, that you cannot control PCMCIA power? If not,
> I will put it on top of my ToDo list.
>
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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 08:41:30 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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>      I just purchased a 32Mb Flash card for my 100lx, but am now in =
need of
>      a driver to allow the 100lx to communicate with it. Can anyone =
refer
>      me to a web site with the appropriate driver and instructions? TIA
>

I have the needed driver (acecard.com)drop me a line and I'll send you a =
copy
with the config.sys setup.


Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.0.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 08:59:54 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Computer riddle.
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Brendan,

> Though I'm not convinced that electronic commerce has yet began
> (unless you define it broadly, to include EDI, telephone order contracts=
,
> etc). To be sure, there's lots of advertising (also hype), but little
> actual commerce.

When you install WWW/LX Plus Version 2 and decide to purchase
it, fire up Post/LX and press R then sit back and enjoy
e-commerce. Over 70% of all the sales of WWW/LX Plus Version
2 todate have bee e-commerce, i.e. using internet only. In
fact using Palmtop ONLY!!! I use a program that runs on the
palmtop to process credit card payments. All the other phases
of the operation run on the palmtop too, partially automated.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 08:59:50 -0700
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John,

> Does anyone know how to increase the charging time in
> ABC/LX past 16 hours? I use a set of 1300 mAH Nimh
> batteries and find it takes about 18 hours to get them
> fully charged so I would like to set the max time longer
> but find it won't go higher than 16 hours. Does anyone know
> how to do this?

How about run ABC/LX twice with 8 hours each time? Use an
appointment.

> Also does Post/LX version 2 handle attachments better than
> version 1. Can you attsach files and will it automatically
> save an attachment in an email message as a file. I'm
> thinking of upgrading to version 2 (I bought mine after
> January so I can get a free upgrade) but don't see any
> reason to upgrade unless it handles attachments better
> since that's the only thing I use that version 1 lacks.

I feel like I answered that already, no? Since you get WWW/LX
Plus for free, what are you making all this research for?
You'll have to do it all over again when you get the package!
So you'll be spending twice the time to figure it out once :)
...

yes, Post/LX verson 2 attaches files much much better than
version 1. You do it like Eudora or Netscape mail.

Send to me the invoice for your WWW/LX Plus Version 1, see Web
page for the fax number and all that.

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 12:05:58 -0700
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Subject:      Re: altCIC Removed
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On Sat, 23 May 1998, Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:

> I have been informed that altCIC is a hacked copy of Japanese commercial
> software from Hiroyuki Sekiya. It is not distributable as it was part of
> a commercial collection accompanying the "HP Software Bible" and has
> been removed from the SUPER Site.

Really?  That would explain why it recognizes the same modems, I guess.

Dang.

> This is a public apology to Mr. Sekiya for my oversight.

Let me also apologize to you... I was looking for CIC programs and found
altCIC on a web site on geocities.  Then I started e-mailing folks... my
mistake.  Think I oughta post an apology to the list as well?

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 09:28:24 -0700
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              MBpresent MBpresent <mbpresent@YAHOO.COM>
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MY HP200LX has been sold. Thanks for your interest.
Michel




_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 10:01:30 -0700
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Stefan Peichl wrote:
>
> With the new ALTCIC and a 32MB upgrade it would be very
> desirable to have a utility similar to SERCTL for the PCMCIA
> port, allowing you to leave the modem in the port and switching
> POWER ON to the port only if the modem is in use. As we all
> know, modems have significant power requirements even in
> standby mode. (40mA for my XJ1144)
>
> Most desirable would be a TSR (ATLCIC enhancement?) to do the
> job. Did anybody already investigate in this direction and
> found out, that you cannot control PCMCIA power? If not,
> I will put it on top of my ToDo list.

Well, we know there's at least one way to control power to the PCMCIA slot:
turn off the unit (or deep sleep mode).  So, perhaps there's a way to
"separate" the effects of deep sleep mode, and only turn off the socket
while retaining power to the screen and CPU.  Time to peruse the ol' SDK...
--
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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 01:36:00 +0800
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Hi There John,

> > Also does Post/LX version 2 handle attachments better than
> > version 1. Can you attsach files and will it automatically
> > save an attachment in an email message as a file. I'm
> > thinking of upgrading to version 2 (I bought mine after
> > January so I can get a free upgrade) but don't see any
> > reason to upgrade unless it handles attachments better
> > since that's the only thing I use that version 1 lacks.
>

I would like to confirm very shortly that what Ivan says below is true! =
:)
Frankly speaking the new version of WWW/LX is so good that even at home, =
I
am now using my palmtop and WWW/LX for all my e-mail. Eudora Pro on my
desktop PC have now retired and can be deleted!!! Yes, WWW/LX 2.0 is so
much improved that I am now using it for even my office e-mail. The
ability to have different ISPs and configurations makes this new version
,in my opinion, one of the best available softwares for HP 100/200LX- =
it's
well worth the price!!!

Regards,

Jorgen


> John,
>
> There are many things that version 2 improves on when compared with its
> predecessor and yes, v.2.0 does a marvelous job of attachments. You may =
not
> only attach a file to a msg as in Eudora, Outlook or any of the 'big'
> mailers but you may attach two, three or more... to any *one* msg! =
Pick.exe
> helps makes light work of finding files on the palmtop that you want to
> attach also.
>
> Decoding attachments to msgs you receive with v.2.0 is also very easy =
(you
> may also set the path for saving the attachment or rename the attached
> file/s on-the-fly or use a default path).
>
> If i told you that as an added bonus you could choose your default font =
for
> viewing msgs - independent of your palmtop font - would this also help =
sway
> you? And that the point size/font file is changeable *while in the =
viewer*
> would that get you off the fence...? :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Ian C. Melville
> imelv@tstt.net.tt
>

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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 01:36:04 +0800
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Subject:      Re: SDK and Assembler for the 200LX
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Hi there!

> I am looking for an Software Developers Kit and any information on
> Assembly language tools for the Hp200.  As I understamd it, the
> micro on the HP200LX is the 80186 "Hornet".  Does the Manufacturer
> have any sort of white paper on this variety of xx86 processor?
>
> If anyone knows where I might purchase an SDK and/or assembler for the
> 200, please contact me.
>
> Thanks for any information.

You can get it from Thaddeus Computing- www.thaddeus.com
both as a hardcopy or included in a great CD-ROM.

Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 12:54:54 -0500
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Subject:      Fonts

In a previous messaged I stated how much I prefered the Andrew3 font over
the Andrew2 font. Now I'm wondering if anyone has or knows where I could get
some additional fonts to play around with. I know there is a utility that
allows one to create their own fonts, but I'm not quite as creative as
others in this aspect.

Jeff


    *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
    |Jeff Johns  KF4KGQ  Reserve Captain  Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
    |Email: jeffj@scott.net   Urgent AlphaPager Email: pagejeff@scott.net|
    |QTH: Birmingham, Alabama USA ------ Posted via an HP200LX Palmtop PC|
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Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.10alpha) REGISTERED

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 11:15:57 -0700
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              Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
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Folks,

I purchased my 200lx used. No manual.  I picked a copy of the 95lx manual
& "PC in your Pocket" at Powells
These got me up and running nicely.

So I'm is there is any reason for me to search for the 200lx manual?  Is
there enought info that isn't in the 95 manual that it would be worth time
and energy to find a copy?



Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 15:12:26 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Hi Jeff-

> In a previous messaged I stated how much I prefered the Andrew3 font =
over
> the Andrew2 font. Now I'm wondering if anyone has or knows where I =
could get
> some additional fonts to play around with.

The SUPER site has a file called "fontstuf.zip" or something like
that. It has a whole BUNCH of fonts.  If you still want more, I've got
my own font that you're welcome to if you want it.

Peniel
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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 15:29:29 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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I am constantly having a need to print the addresses in my databases and phone
books onto Avery label stock, but right now I am either doing a laborious mail
merge into Word on the desktop (Yuk) or just re-typing. Is there a DOS app out
there that will allow you to take a formatted text file as input (from a
print-to-file clip in database or phonebook) and print to Avery label stock on
a specific label (so you can re-use the sheet if you have only printed one or
two)?

Thanks!

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Anyone in this list does use HPLX with the Macintosh computer?

Can anyone send me software like TRANSFILE  to transfer files between Mac
and HPLX?

Thanks a lot.

pablo KIM

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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 06:13:23 +0800
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>Anyone in this list does use HPLX with the Macintosh computer?
>
>Can anyone send me software like TRANSFILE  to transfer files between Mac
>and HPLX?

This may not be the answer which you are looking for. First of all I have
not even seen a Mac for the last 10 years and this is not my fault, but
Bill's!! :)

Anyway, I don't know if there are some special programs for this, but one
thing I know- Some people are using a Mac with some kind of Win 95 emulator
and they can connect to a HP Win CE palmtop after they have installed the
emulator. So if you can't find a specific Mac<==>200LX program, at least a
Mac DOS emulator program & HP 200LX connectivity pack should do it- OR?
Just a guess..

Regards,

Jorgen


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     ON  Fri, 22 May 1998 22:36:53 -0400
     From:    John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
     Subject: ABC/LX and Post

     Does anyone know how to increase the charging time in
     ABC/LX past 16 hours? I use a set of 1300 mAH Nimh
     batteries and find it takes about 18 hours to get them
     fully charged so I would like to set the max time longer
     but find it won't go higher than 16 hours. Does anyone know
     how to do this?


     John, The basic setup is 100ma for 6hrs then 45ma after.

     I have the same problem with it taking forever to charge 1100mAh
     Ni-Cads. This is less than the 14-16hr rate. Has anyone looked at
     upping the charging rate in conjunction with ABC/LX?

     Also- does ABC/LX conflict with BUDDY? I understand that they both the
     Hidden? Untouchable? ram area?

     TIA

     Joe Buford:-{>}

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David C Smalley wrote:

> I'm having considerable trouble with my 32MB Simple Tech Flashcard....

Dave,

I had the same problem a week or two ago with my Sandisk 5 Mb.  It
disappeared, after it gave some indications and nothing I did could read
the disk.  Not on my Thinkpad, not on my 200LX.

It was a while later that I rembered that I pulled the card to try a
modem, but I could not be sure if everything was closed.  One of the
tools I tried said ... FAT CORRUPTED or something to that effect.

Reformatted - FDISK100 - and everything was OK.  Since you have your
data intact, that is what I would suggest.

Regards,

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Sat, 23 May 1998 18:59:17 -0500 (EST)

17h50m20s ago ...
On Sat, 23 May 1998, Don E. Weatherly wrote:

> I have a suggestion:
>
> Users of Software Carousel could use a text cut and paste utility to =
permit
> cuting text from one application (work area) and pasting it into =
another
> application (work area)...

I would second that! I was going to suggest that as well. I think the
folks at Thaddeus have it on the "back burner" (Tom, please correct me
if I'm wrong).

Cheers,

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Date:         Sat, 23 May 1998 16:30:14 -0700
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For anybody looking for a 2MB 200LX just found this one one the news
wire.

Good Luck!


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From: Brian Hunter <bwh@mail.netzone.com>
Subject: FS: HP200LX 2 meg
Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 07:47:22 -0700

I have an HP200LX 2meg with AC power and PC connection cable, manuals
etc etc. All in excellent condition.

Asking $200 plus shipping.

Thanks
Brian

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Has anybody gotten Posth to work. I followed the installation and
installed peh.bat $f $h $x Y in setup. But it didn't work, any
comments.




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> Has anybody gotten Posth to work. I followed the installation and
> installed peh.bat $f $h $x Y in setup. But it didn't work, any
> comments.

I have a new version from Tony that I will post on SUPER later tonight. I have
to bring the server down for a little while to install a new Jaz drive and
vacuum out the dust bunnies.

Mitch
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Who makes the hornet chip?

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> Has anybody gotten Posth to work. I followed the installation and
> installed peh.bat $f $h $x Y in setup. But it didn't work, any
> comments.

Yup sorry Qman, the PEH.BAT doesn't handle filenames properly (unless
you have TmpDir=3D and TempMsgFile=3Dpost.tmp like me :( That's a blank
for TmpDir and lowercase post.tmp.

Here's how the beginning of PEH.BAT looks now:

@echo off
rem note the file names in the following three lines
rem are case sensitive.
rem only the "A" and "B" must be capitals
rem These lines will work only if you have
rem TmpDir=3DC:\tmp
rem TempMsgFile=3Dpost.tmp
rem in your POST.CFG
if %1=3D=3DC:\tmp\post.tmA goto message
if %1=3D=3DC:\tmp\post.tmp goto misscomp
if not %1=3D=3DC:\tmp\post.tmB goto edit

So, in the PEH.BAT you have just modify it to look like this - you
don't need the rem stuff. So if for example you have in your POST.CFG

TmpDir=3DC:\TMP
TempMsgFile=3DPOST.CFG

then use the following:

if %1=3D=3DC:\TMP\POST.TMmA goto message
if %1=3D=3DC:\TMP\POST.TMP goto misscomp
if not %1=3D=3DC:\TMP\POST.TMB goto edit

Actually the simplest wasy to make it work in virtually all cases is to
just remark the third line - then it doesn't matter what your TmpDir
and TempMsgFile are... but POSTH will try to intervene if you edit the
address book in that case .. still it's easy to abort with CTRL+BREAK
and in that case POSTH will do nothing no matter how far it is through
the options.

Also there was another problem - the syntax says you don't need the
"T1" - well you do, but I changed the bat file to agree with the
syntax.

The "TMP" line above is only needed in case you launch POSTH as an
external - I should have left this option out probably.

Anyway I hope you get it to work!

I know the peh.bat is not too elegant but it means a great saving in
time if POSTH.EXE doesn't need to be launched. Hehe you should see the
basic source POSTH.BAS<G>. Any ideas for improvement welcome, it
probably needs a re-write.

Regards, Tony

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Hi Quinton-

> Has anybody gotten Posth to work. I followed the installation and
> installed peh.bat $f $h $x Y in setup. But it didn't work, any
> comments.

I had the same thing happen.  There was a message here on the list from
Tony, saying that the T1 is needed in the parameters.  I tried that,
but it didn't work for me either.  According to the doc file, the
parameters aren't case sensitive - I used all lower-case - maybe it
does matter...

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Software Carousel, before it was "specialized" for the HPLX, had this
feature. I wonder if the current distributor would add it in as an
option?

On Sat, 23 May 1998 02:08:57 -0400 "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
writes:

>I have a suggestion:
>
>Users of Software Carousel could use a text cut and paste utility to
permit
>cuting text from one application (work area) and pasting it into another
>application (work area).
>
>Ideally, it would work with the palmtop's Fn cut, copy, and paste keys.
>
>The DOSCLIP program on SUPER, while very useful, only permits cut &
paste
>between the System Manager applications and a DOS application running
under
>System Manager (using the clipboard).

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Bernie,

If their number is (800)367-7330, I have it. What exactly is
ExpressExchange? Do they do like the Hard Drive manufactures, and mail
out a replacement before one sends their card in, or is it more like just
a quick (express) turn-a-round?

I can't find much as far a specs in the documentation for this card I
have. The literature talks about compatiblity with WinCE, and also
needing a firmware upgrade to use it in a Kodak DC50 Camera. From that I
assume that it isn't too awful outdated. Still, I can't say if it does
the dual voltage thing. I know it's not a Compact Flash. I bought it in
January of this year. The vendor was the Internet Shopping Network (I
hadn't heard of you yet). You say I ought to exchange it for a CF32MB
with adapter. Are you saying that I have a choice what it gets replaced
with?

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)


On Sat, 23 May 1998 06:01:57 -0700 "Bernard A. Torbik"
<btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET> writes:
>Hi, David:
>>
>The card is warranteed unconditionally for 5-yrs and Simple offers
>ExpressExchange from here in Orange Co. If you don't have their number,
let
>me know.
>>
>When and where did you get the 32MB from? It sounds as if it's one of
the
>older 5.0volt cards, in which case you ought to exchange it for a dual
>voltage card. Best idea would be to get a CF32MB with PC Card adapter.
>>
>Bernie Torbik

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There is a file on SUPER that will allow you to set the FAST charge rate.
It is a DOS tsr. I use high capacity NiCads and only set it to 13 Hours,
but I don't remember reading anything in the DOC saying it couldn't be
set higher. It's called BATSET by the way.

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)


On Sat, 23 May 1998 16:00:08 PST Joe Buford <jebuford@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
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>     ON  Fri, 22 May 1998 22:36:53 -0400
>     From:    John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
>     Subject: ABC/LX and Post
>
>     Does anyone know how to increase the charging time in
>     ABC/LX past 16 hours? I use a set of 1300 mAH Nimh
>     batteries and find it takes about 18 hours to get them
>     fully charged so I would like to set the max time longer
>     but find it won't go higher than 16 hours. Does anyone know
>     how to do this?

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On Sun, 24 May 1998 01:13:37 GMT, Tony Hutchins <thutchins@ACM.ORG> =
wrote:


> Yup sorry Qman, the PEH.BAT doesn't handle filenames properly (unless
> you have TmpDir=3D and TempMsgFile=3Dpost.tmp like me :( That's a blank
> for TmpDir and lowercase post.tmp.
>
> Here's how the beginning of PEH.BAT looks now:
>
> Anyway I hope you get it to work!

Hi Tony,

I got it to work as you can see, by mading the changes that you posted.
Also had to add TempMsgFile=3Dpost.tmp to my post.cfg as it didn't have a
TempMsgFile section listed at all.


Thanks,


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Sat, 23 May 1998 22:28:01 -0500 (EST)

Greetings All,

     Does anyone have a source of the "HP 200LX Software Bible", By
Hiroyuki Sekiya and Hirotaka Hamada, ISBN 4-89052-911-x ? Or better yet
an English translation?

Tried Amazon.com, came up empty :-(

Cheers,

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Yes, that's the correct number, or 714.476.1180 in So CA.
Give them your particulars - name, address, etc. and they will ship you a
replacement with a pre-addressed return box/mailer.
>
If it's a 32MB card and you bought it in Jan98 it is definitely 5.0volt and
power hungry. A dual voltage card will be faster and consume less power.
>
If you have trouble getting a CF32 with adapter, let me know. I may be able
to help out.
>
Bernie Torbik
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David C Smalley
Sent: 23 May, 1998 19:26
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: Flashcard acting flaky


Bernie,

If their number is (800)367-7330, I have it. What exactly is
ExpressExchange? Do they do like the Hard Drive manufactures, and mail
out a replacement before one sends their card in, or is it more like just
a quick (express) turn-a-round?

I can't find much as far a specs in the documentation for this card I
have. The literature talks about compatiblity with WinCE, and also
needing a firmware upgrade to use it in a Kodak DC50 Camera. From that I
assume that it isn't too awful outdated. Still, I can't say if it does
the dual voltage thing. I know it's not a Compact Flash. I bought it in
January of this year. The vendor was the Internet Shopping Network (I
hadn't heard of you yet). You say I ought to exchange it for a CF32MB
with adapter. Are you saying that I have a choice what it gets replaced
with?

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)


On Sat, 23 May 1998 06:01:57 -0700 "Bernard A. Torbik"
<btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET> writes:
>Hi, David:
>>
>The card is warranteed unconditionally for 5-yrs and Simple offers
>ExpressExchange from here in Orange Co. If you don't have their number,
let
>me know.
>>
>When and where did you get the 32MB from? It sounds as if it's one of
the
>older 5.0volt cards, in which case you ought to exchange it for a dual
>voltage card. Best idea would be to get a CF32MB with PC Card adapter.
>>
>Bernie Torbik

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Al
As far as I know, you can only get the software bible in Japan. There is an
electronic area called Akihabara where many shops carry it. Unfortunatley,
I'm back the NY and don't feel like asking my friends to send it.
Tony

Al Kind wrote:

> Sat, 23 May 1998 22:28:01 -0500 (EST)
>
> Greetings All,
>
>      Does anyone have a source of the "HP 200LX Software Bible", By
> Hiroyuki Sekiya and Hirotaka Hamada, ISBN 4-89052-911-x ? Or better yet
> an English translation?
>
> Tried Amazon.com, came up empty :-(
>
> Cheers,
>
> *       ____           __      _     __    _         __
> * ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
> */ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
> *\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
> *                        |___/
> *Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd
> *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124
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Sat, 23 May 1998 23:12:26 -0500 (EST)

06h48m48s ago ...
On Sat, 23 May 1998, David C Smalley wrote:

> Software Carousel, before it was "specialized" for the HPLX, had this
> feature. I wonder if the current distributor would add it in as an
> option...?

I have tried CutNPaste on the LX. It works...Sort of. Takes up alot of
conventional memory (can't remember exactly how much, 50k?) And doesn't
work within SysMan apps.

Cheers,

*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
*                        |___/
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As Tony said, "HP 100LX/200LX Bible", "HP 200LX Software Bible"
and "HP 200LX Hardware Bible" are only avaible in Japan, and
they are written in Japanese.

Regards,
Yujin

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            QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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Sat, 23 May 1998 22:28:01 -0500 (EST)

Greetings All,

     Does anyone have a source of the "HP 200LX Software Bible", By
Hiroyuki Sekiya and Hirotaka Hamada, ISBN 4-89052-911-x ? Or better yet
an English translation?

Tried Amazon.com, came up empty :-(

Cheers,

*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
*                        |___/
*Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124

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I am looking for an Software Developers Kit and any information
on
Assembly language tools for the Hp200.  As I understamd it,
the
micro on the HP200LX is the 80186 "Hornet".  Does the
Manufacturer
have any sort of white paper on this variety of xx86
processor?

If anyone knows where I might purchase an SDK and/or assembler
for the
200, please contact me.

Thanks for any information.

-
**************************************************
      mark beutler     mycroft_h@bigfoot.com

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     it is not science,it is merely opinion.
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The SDK is availible from Thaddus and you can find MASM 5.0
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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 05:57:54 -0000
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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Subject:      Re: Maxdos syntax
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HM>>c:\maxdos.com  c:\1st\air2\1st.exe|
  >>is what I have, and I have also tried putting different memory
  >>settings
  >>after the pipe (|) to no avail.  I know my autoexec.bat is
  >>right for I
  >>haven't xhanged that, and I had maxdos working before.  What
  >>else am I
  >>missing here?  TIA.

HM>If you are using the exact same syntax as whats in this
  >message you need to put a space just before the | sign like
  >c:\bin\maxdos.com a:\whatever |
  >Hope this is right and helps.


Thanks John, and thanks everyone for the responses.  Actually what I
typed above was just a typo.  I had maxdos in a:\ and in c:\1st\air2
where the executable in question was located.  I copied maxdos.com to
c:\ and that solved the problem!  Go figure.

Jim

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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 02:08:57 -0400
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At 01:36 AM 5/24/98 +0800, you wrote:
>> I am looking for an Software Developers Kit and any information on
>> Assembly language tools for the Hp200.  As I understamd it, the
>> micro on the HP200LX is the 80186 "Hornet".  Does the Manufacturer
>> have any sort of white paper on this variety of xx86 processor?
>>
>> If anyone knows where I might purchase an SDK and/or assembler for the
>> 200, please contact me.

In addition, you can get an electronic version of the SDK at
comports.com/hplx, if his site is still up.  The SDK has a kind of white
paper on it; not much on the external end of things, but plenty of info on
the individual components of the Hornet.  Incidentally, the Hornet is not a
80C186; it just contains one, along with all the peripheral components that
make it work.  Really, it's a motherboard (and display adapter, which is
hot stuff, btw) on a chip.  I can tell you more if you email me privately
(sorry I lost your address; it went out with a flood of other stuff I
deleted.)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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This is a tough one. I've never heard of a Mac package.
Maybe there's a Mac intellasync version or a version of
Laplink Remote for the Macintosh.

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Anyone in this list does use HPLX with the Macintosh
computer?

Can anyone send me software like TRANSFILE  to transfer files
between Mac
and HPLX?

Thanks a lot.

pablo KIM

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----- forwarded message -----
Found this in palmtops. Just thought someone might be
interested.
______________________________________________________________
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Path: newsstand.tc.umn.edu!newshub.tc.umn.edu!news.eecs.umich.edu!nntprelay=
mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail
From: mrgondo@aol.com (Mr Gondo)

Hewlett Packard HP F1021B Connectivity Pack LIST PRICE $119.00 Brand=
 New -
Sealed in the Box Buyer pays $54.00 -Includes Priority Mail shipping=
 to lower
48 US States Connect Your HP100LX and HP 200LX Series Palmtop to any=
 DOS Based
PC Merge and Synchronize Appoinment, Phone, Quicken and Database Files=
 Access
Drives from your desktop PC with Laplink Remote Access Install HP Palmtop
organizer software on your desktop PC Includes Serial Cable and Adapters.

TERMS: Money Order Payment in advance.


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Sun, 24 May 1998 18:41:30 +1200 (NZT)

03h39m07s ago ...
On Sat, 23 May 1998 20:02:23 -0700 (CST), Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> I got it to work as you can see, by mading the changes that you posted.
> Also had to add TempMsgFile=3Dpost.tmp to my post.cfg as it didn't have =
a
> TempMsgFile section listed at all.

Great! TempMsgFile is congigurable thru the SETUP.EXE program - in the
Global section. I'm not sure what the default filename is - either
post.tmp or POST.TMP is my guess.

BTW thanks for the feedback!

I've now got another version working that for example can do the above
topline stuff automatically - I feel it is a bit over-the-top<G>.

Regards, Tony

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William,

WP5.1 runs beautifully on the 200lx
-----Original Message-----
From: William R. Ponsoldt Jr., Esq. <w.ponsoldtjr@worldnet.att.net>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, 19 May 1998 22:09
Subject: Re: A couple of cheap/free things...


>I am interested if it will run on the Palmtop.   I heard that it would.
>What do you need to send it to me?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: James P. Grenert <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
>Date: Monday, May 18, 1998 5:22 PM
>Subject: A couple of cheap/free things...
>
>
>>Hi, palmtoppers.
>>I am purging some computer stuff.  Let me know if you're interested.
>>Word Perfect 5.1, with box, manuals, 3.5" disks.  $10 plus shipping
>>(pretty heavy, I would say).
>>dBase II/III/III+ Advanced Programmers Guide.  Free for $3 shipping.
>>
>>Cheers.
>>J. P. Grenert
>>grenert@mayo.edu
>>
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Mitch:

> I have been informed that altCIC is a hacked copy of Japanese commercial
> software from Hiroyuki Sekiya. It is not distributable as it was part =
of a
> commercial collection accompanying the "HP Software Bible" and has been =
removed
> from the SUPER Site.
>
> This is a public apology to Mr. Sekiya for my oversight.
>
> Mitch
> S.U.P.E.R. Team

Nothing to apologise for. You have been misled by the poster,
I presume. It was your mistake to not consider the source. So
much for honesty in transactions... I hate pirates!

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Ian, and John

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of
> > John Musielewicz
> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 10:37 PM

> There are many things that version 2 improves on when compared with its

On the Web page, http://www.dasoft.com in the NEW WWW/LX Plus
Version 2 link, there is the product announcement. It has a
huge (and mind numbing) list of almost all the features (we
added a few since the list was published). The _additions_ to
WWW/LX Plus v 2 are marked with a *... Just FYI.

  Avi M. D&A

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Mark,

> I am looking for an Software Developers Kit and any information on
> Assembly language tools for the Hp200.  As I understamd it, the
> micro on the HP200LX is the 80186 "Hornet".  Does the Manufacturer
> have any sort of white paper on this variety of xx86 processor?
>
> If anyone knows where I might purchase an SDK and/or assembler for the
> 200, please contact me.

Thaddeus Computing put the whole SDK on the CD they publish.
They also publish the Palmtop Paper. The language recommended
by HP is C, btw, but I suspect you can probably make it work
with ASM.

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1/ Anybody know where I can get the screws that hold the 200LX
together.....before it falls apart and I have to contemplate buying one
of those blasted Windows CE machines?

What is the precise size/shape of the screw so I can track one down?

Give me one good reason why anybody would want a Windows CE machine
anyway? I really like the keypad set up of the 200LX with the numeric
pads just were they are on a larger keyboard. Are there any CE machines
with this keyboard layout? Recently a salesman told me it will never be
because of ergonomic rules. Is this true or just salesman crap to get me
to change. In any case Windows CE appears to me to be just buying time
until a better operating system is written. My plan is to get as much
use my 200LX until it literally falls apart whilst waiting for HP or
Toshiba to offer a palmtop that runs a closer to real version of Windows
95/98.... the Toshiba Libretto is close but I believe the battery life
is shocking. How about a slightly smaller Libretto with a grey scale
screen to conserve battery life......now that would be something.

2/ I tried getting a version of Pocket Quicken Connect for my 200LX from
the Intuit site but it has disappeared. Anybody know were I can get a
copy?
Is it true that the new Philips CE palmtop will be bundled with Pocket
Quicken and the HP CE machines have missed out?

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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 11:52:57 +0300
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Hello,
I'd like to buy broken 200LX , how much it costs for me?

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> From: MBpresent MBpresent <mbpresent@YAHOO.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: FOR SALE 2*HP200LX WITH A LOT SOFTWARE
> Date: Saturday, May 23, 1998 1:23 PM
>
> For sale:
> Two HP200LX 2MB one German version and one English the English version
> has a broken display but you can change it from the german version.
>
> Software: registered, WWWLX and QUICKLX English version.
>
> Incl. Parallel Printer cable,Serial Cable, nice bag and a 20MB Flash
> disk.
>
> Everything for 320$ without Flashcard 100$
>
> Interest---mbpresent@hotmail.com
> Michel
>
>
>
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> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 04:01:39 -0700
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Use the smartclip. You'll need to change it all the time to
move the stuff to an area where the label is really there on
the sheet. I don't know of another way.

Actually, you can do it in Lotus, but it takes quite a job to
write the macros, that will also count where you are on the
sheet. I can see in my mind how to do it, but I don't have
time unfortunately to play with it.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 04:01:41 -0700
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>      I have the same problem with it taking forever to charge 1100mAh
>      Ni-Cads. This is less than the 14-16hr rate. Has anyone looked at
>      upping the charging rate in conjunction with ABC/LX?

Huh? How? This is built into the circuitry! 100mAh is what you
get! Or 45mAh in trickle charge.

>      Also- does ABC/LX conflict with BUDDY? I understand that they both =
the
>      Hidden? Untouchable? ram area?

I KNOW they do not! Andreas had Buddy and has been a beta
tester for Buddy forever! I can tell you categorically there
is NOT a conflict between these two. Indeed both use the same
are in the non-volatile RAM.

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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 04:01:36 -0700
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Jorgen,

> Frankly speaking the new version of WWW/LX is so good that even at =
home,
> I
> am now using my palmtop and WWW/LX for all my e-mail. Eudora Pro on my
> desktop PC have now retired and can be deleted!!! Yes, WWW/LX 2.0 is so
> much improved that I am now using it for even my office e-mail. The
> ability to have different ISPs and configurations makes this new =
version
> ,in my opinion, one of the best available softwares for HP 100/200LX-
> it's
> well worth the price!!!

A friend told me today he bought an old 386 50MHZ and runs
WWW/LX Plus Version 2 and so on on it, because it is a blast!
He says he gets HV in colors?

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 12:25:50 +0100
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              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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In message <001E8AFC.3146@palmtop.com>, bamcilvaine
<bamcilvaine@palmtop.com> writes
>Peter-
>
>I an referring to your post to the HPLX user's group regarding use of
>InfoSelect on the HPLX:
>
>I am considering purchasing InfoSelect and wanted your opinion as to its
>usefulness, not just on the HPLX but in general. If you could take a few
>minutes to outline what you find it useful for I would appreciate it greatly.
>
>Thank You.
>
>Brian

Brian

I find it very useful personally. The HP's built - in database,
phonebook and notetaker impose too much structure for my liking. I was
forever entering information and "forgetting" where I had put it. Yes,
you can search for the information but the builit - in search facility
feels cumbersome.

With IS, each time you enter new information, it goes into a kind of
window rather like a post - it note. In contrast to the HP's built - in
applications, with with IS you just feed in any and all of your random
information and as lomg as you can remember a key word, you can recall
all windows containing that key word in a few seconds. You have the
ability to join windows, split windows and cut and paste between
windows. You can also create forms.

As a busy Technical Manager, I find I get a lot of "information
stimulii" coming at me from several sources constantly e.g. from the
telephone, voice mail, e - mail, faxes, letters, memos, reports, reading
material etc and I find that IS allows me to enter and recall it without
having to apply structure to each snippet of information like which Note
heading or database file should I store it under.

So for me it's useful!

Brian, I have some old articles from one of their UK agents on IS for
DOS which I could fax you if you have a fax number.

Might I also suggest you go to Micro Logic's web site and e-mail them
and ask them to "sell" you the benefits of the package. When I bought
mine, they had some copies left at $49 each. I don't know if there are
any left now or not.

All the best


Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 08:41:39 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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In-Reply-To:  Alex Baker <abaker@21century.com.au> "Hanging on to 200LX ......"
              (May 24,  7:45pm)
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> 2/ I tried getting a version of Pocket Quicken Connect for my 200LX from
> the Intuit site but it has disappeared. Anybody know were I can get a
> copy?

I just got a copy about 3 weeks ago and it works smashingly with Quicken 98
Deluxe. Start here:

http://www.intuit.com/quicken_store/

Then choose "Personal Finance" and then "Pocket Quicken Connect". You can order
online and the package shows up in about 2 days. Highly recommended.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 09:34:42 -0400
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              "Rodger N. Bird II" <rbird2@MICH.COM>
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I have a Sundisk (Now Sandisk) 10MB SDP-10 10MB flask card for sale.
I just upgraded to a 40MB card so I'm selling the SDP-10.

Asking $75.00 which includes shipping and insurance within the continental United States.

Rodger
rbird2@mich.com

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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 09:44:36 -0400
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I have Lotus 123 Version 2.4 for DOS For Sale.  This is the same version on the HP100LX and HP200LX.

It is on 3 1/2" floppy disks and includes 4 books: Quick Reference, Getting Started, @Functions and Macros Guide, and Users Guide.

Asking $25.00 which includes shipping and insurance within the continental United States.

I also have a set of Lotus 123 manuals (NO Disks) which includes 4 books:
Getting Started, @Functions and Macros Guide, Users Guide and a small Macro Library 1.0 booklet.

Asking $15.00 which includes shipping and insurance within the continental United States.


Rodger
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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 09:07:14 -0500
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You could use gdbio to to extract your gdb and pdb files in a comma
delimited format. Then import the data into any number of databases.
Wampum42.zip (on Simtel Dos) comes to mind as solid, simple and has
an easy to use function specifically for making labels.

Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:

> I am constantly having a need to print the addresses in my databases and phone
> books onto Avery label stock, but right now I am either doing a laborious mail
> merge into Word on the desktop (Yuk) or just re-typing. Is there a DOS app out
> there that will allow you to take a formatted text file as input (from a
> print-to-file clip in database or phonebook) and print to Avery label stock on
> a specific label (so you can re-use the sheet if you have only printed one or
> two)?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mitch
> S.U.P.E.R. Team
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Date:         Sat, 27 Sep 1997 00:52:33 -0300
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              hyun <hyun@MOVI.COM.AR>
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 Anyone in this list does use HPLX with the Macintosh computer?

 Can anyone send me software like TRANSFILE  to transfer files between Mac
 and HPLX?

 Thanks a lot.

 pablo KIM


PD: Sorry for my other message with the same content but different SUBJECT.

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Date:         Sat, 27 Sep 1997 00:56:29 -0300
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Thank you for your idea...but as with all "emulation" this method is very
unreliable and complicated.

I'm finding one like TRANSFILE and not MACLINK PLUS that's very expensive.

Pablo KIM HS

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> De: Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@palmtop.net>
> A: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; hyun <hyun@MOVI.COM.AR=
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> Asunto: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 21 May 1998 to 22 May 1998
> Fecha: S=E1bado 23 de Mayo de 1998 19:13
>=20
> >Anyone in this list does use HPLX with the Macintosh computer?
> >
> >Can anyone send me software like TRANSFILE  to transfer files between
Mac
> >and HPLX?
>=20
> This may not be the answer which you are looking for. First of all I ha=
ve
> not even seen a Mac for the last 10 years and this is not my fault, but
> Bill's!! :)
>=20
> Anyway, I don't know if there are some special programs for this, but o=
ne
> thing I know- Some people are using a Mac with some kind of Win 95
emulator
> and they can connect to a HP Win CE palmtop after they have installed t=
he
> emulator. So if you can't find a specific Mac<=3D=3D>200LX program, at =
least
a
> Mac DOS emulator program & HP 200LX connectivity pack should do it- OR?
> Just a guess..
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Jorgen
>=20
>=20
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|
> |wallgren@singnet.com.sg
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|
> |                        |taste better with  time...                   =
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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 12:40:06 -0400
Reply-To:     "Ken A. Moore" <KenAMoore@OmniTraining.com>
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Subject:      Re: What new applications are wanted for the palmtops?

Perhaps I have missed the latest update on the development of a keyboard adapter for the HPLX. However, I am surprised it has not been created yet. Although it is not quite a software/application, I would love to see the completion and availability of a product that would allow me to take an old 101 PC keyboard, (I have several ready for the garbage can) and plug it in to my 200LX for easy touch typing. Yes, I am aware of the Newton Keyboard. I already have a small portable keyboard. It happens to be very nicely built-in to my LX.
Ken Moore

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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 12:40:12 -0400
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Pablo wrote:
------------------<snip>--------------
Anyone in this list does use HPLX with the Macintosh computer?
Can anyone send me software like TRANSFILE  to transfer files between Mac and HPLX?
Thanks a lot.
pablo KIM
-------------------<snip>---------------
Pablo,
I use a Mac in the office as well as Win 3.1 and Win 95 at home. All three computers are setup for easy backup/file transfer within seconds of power up. I use a product called "MacLink" which is designed specifically for linking the LX to the Mac. If you or anyone else wants more info on this, e-mail me on Tuesday when I am back in the office and I will provide more info. I am sure someone on the list has the details regarding the company name and their web site address. I think the company that provides the MacLink is something like DataViz(?)
Good Luck,
Ken
(let me know if I can be of further help on this)

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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 12:19:59 -0700
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              "David R. Birch" <drbirch@EXECPC.COM>
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BTW, to anyone replacing the screws holding the HP together, you will
need a Torx #6 driver.

David

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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 12:43:51 -0700
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You will need a Torx #6 driver to intall the HP screws, BTW.

David

Patrick West wrote:

> Thanks to all it turned out to be
> 1-800-227-8164
> part # F1216-60998
> $20.00 including shipping.  A great deal. I just ordered it. Thanks again.

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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 12:58:08 -0700
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Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:

> I have four (4) F1011A ac adapters new in the box.
>
> $20 US each including domestic shipping
>
> Email me off the list if interested.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mitch

If one of these is still available, I'll take it.  How do you want
payment?

David

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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 13:59:24 -0400
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              Kiyoshi Akima <kakima@USA.NET>
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The book is available only in Japanese. I got mine last
year in Japan. It comes with a CD chock full of good
freeware and shareware, though most of it is in Japanese.
Many of them require the Japanese Language Kit available
as a commercial product in Japan.

Much of the software is useless outside of Japan. You can
tie into a Japanese weather system, but it doesn't provide
the weather outside of Japan. You can get the JR train
schedules. You can get a list of noodle shops in Tokyo. I
haven't had the urge to go to one of those for lunch lately
(I'm in Colorado).

Much of the software is also available on the SUPER site.
Much more of it is also available at
 http://www.vector.co.jp

If you still want one, you can probably order one through
Kinokuniya Books.  http://www.kinokuniya.com

Kiyoshi Akima
kakima@usa.net

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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 13:02:12 -0500
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I have also used the rubber band technique to replace the "spring" in the
latch.  I felt the rubber was more safe if it got into the calculator, as
opposed to a piece of metal.

Jerry

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Subject:      Re: MACINTOSH <--> HP 200LX
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> Anyone in this list does use HPLX with the Macintosh computer?
>
> Can anyone send me software like TRANSFILE  to transfer files between Mac
> and HPLX?
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> pablo KIM
>
>
>PD: Sorry for my other message with the same content but different SUBJECT.
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I was using the DataViz MacLink transfer program (they still selling it?)
until I decided that it was better to use Datacom and a Mac terminal
program (the one in Claris Works) to do the transfer. Not as fast as other
solutions, but I found that using Zmodem was slightly more reliable than
MacLink, which produced some data errors on  writes to a flash card (timing
problems?).

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Subject:      Re2: Charging Limits and ABC/LX conflict?
Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net

     Thanks for the info on ABC/LX

     As to the Charging cycle:
     if the circuity is built into the HORNET chip the I agree that it is
     out of bounds, However if the charging circuity is external to, but
     controlled by the HORNET chip it may be possible to change a
     regulator/control/etc. to change the High/low current settings to
     allow charging at faster rates! Mack-got your ears on? Is this
     possible? You probably know the circuity better than anyone!!!

     See Ya

     Joe Buford:-{>}



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Subject: Re: Charging Limits and ABC/LX conflict?
Author:  sponsor@ftel.net at CCGATE
Date:    5/24/98 4:38 AM


>      I have the same problem with it taking forever to charge 1100mAh
>      Ni-Cads. This is less than the 14-16hr rate. Has anyone looked at
>      upping the charging rate in conjunction with ABC/LX?

Huh? How? This is built into the circuitry! 100mAh is what you
get! Or 45mAh in trickle charge.

>      Also- does ABC/LX conflict with BUDDY? I understand that they both =
the
>      Hidden? Untouchable? ram area?

I KNOW they do not! Andreas had Buddy and has been a beta
tester for Buddy forever! I can tell you categorically there
is NOT a conflict between these two. Indeed both use the same
are in the non-volatile RAM.

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Hi all,

Having recently returned to a 200LX from my brief flirtation with
a PalmPilot, I was looking for a modem solution. I still have an old
Megahertz 9600 pocket modem/fax, onto which I had spliced an HPLX
serial cable, but what with WWW/LX, Goin' Postal, etc., I plan on
spending more time on-line and I wanted something faster. My criteria
were a minimum of 14,000 baud, LONG battery life, and small size. I
looked around and found the Addonics 33.6K pocket modem, but
it draws power from the serial port, which sucks the battery from
the palmtop. The same problem exists with PC Card modems. My feeling
is that I would rather have a dead modem than a dead palmtop, which
is what lead me to wanting a battery powered external modem. Besides,
I like having 80MB of storage with my PC card, and I don't want to
have to swap the card to log on.

I had bought the modem for the PalmPilot, which is powered by
two extra AAA batteries and has around 5 hours of batter life. being
somewhat electronically oriented, I decided to hack around a bit, and I
came up with
what I think is a pretty goood solution.

I removed the PalmPilot modem's circuit board from the casing, made
a few modifications, placed it in a small (1.25" X 2.25" X 3.25") plastic
project box and hooked up 2 Lithium-Ion AA batteries. I also connected
a HPLX serial cable and viola! - a small, battery powered external
14,000 baud modem. The PalmPilot modem also has an external AC
adapter, so when I'm in a hotel or at home, I don't use any
battery power.

The nicest thing is the battery life - I ran a test with the modem
continously exchanging data with my desktop system, and the batteries
lasted over 12 hours! With my usage, I figure that I'm going to
be changing the batteries in my palmtop more often that my modem!

If you wanted to do this, you can buy PalmPilot modems for around
$100.00 mail order. If you do, don't bother sending in the registration
card - you'll be trashing the warrenty big time!

Anyway, if anyone's interested in the details, I'll try and throw
something together that explains what I did. A word of warning -
this is not a project for someone with no electronics skills. It
involved trimming the circuit board and doing some soldering, plus
hacking up a small project box. It's not exactly rocket science,
but it's not trivial, either.

John McDonald

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> I was using the DataViz MacLink transfer program (they still selling it?)

No, they aren't.

> until I decided that it was better to use Datacom and a Mac terminal
> program (the one in Claris Works) to do the transfer. Not as fast as other
> solutions, but I found that using Zmodem was slightly more reliable than
> MacLink, which produced some data errors on  writes to a flash card (timing
> problems?).

Interesting solution. I may try that myself.

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On Sat, 23 May 1998 15:29:29, "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET> =
wrote:

> I am constantly having a need to print the addresses in my databases =
and phone
> books onto Avery label stock, but right now I am either doing a laboriou=
s mail
> merge into Word on the desktop (Yuk) or just re-typing. Is there a DOS =
app out
> there that will allow you to take a formatted text file as input (from =
a
> print-to-file clip in database or phonebook) and print to Avery label =
stock on
> a specific label (so you can re-use the sheet if you have only printed =
one or
> two)?

Hi Mitch,

The only program that I know of that will handle printing to Avery label =
stock
is WP51.

HTH


Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.0.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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If your tired of waiting for your high capacity batteries
to charge Mack at Times2Tech is working on upping the
charging current. He is planning on selling it as an
upgrade.

____________________________________________
____________________________________________

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Reply-To: "Mack Baggette" <mack@times2tech.com>
From: "Mack Baggette" <mackb@gte.net>
To: "John Musielewicz" <musi0009@tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: 32mb upgrade
As for your battery charging question, the circuit is external to the=
 Hornet, so
it can be upped to 200ma.  We are going to do that ourselves and possibly=
 offer
an upgrade.  We are also looking into upping the current on the PCMCIA=
 port as
well.

The 18 hour thing you saw was a mistake and it hasn't been on the web=
 site for a
long time.  It would be advisable to charge them more than 16 hours,=
 so I at
least trickle charge them a few hours.

Cheers,
Mack

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Hi group-

Well, after most of a day trying to get posth to work, I finally got
past the "it does nothing" stage (after finding a bunch of my typos),
and am now getting error messages.  "out of environment space" followed
by a message that there is no fourth parameter in the Editor=3D line in
post.cfg.

Here's the line:  Editor=3Dpeh.bat $f $h $x Y
                                          
Am I nuts or is it right here? -----------|

I tried increasing the environment to 4096 using the command
shell=3Dd:\dos\command.com /E:4096 /p   in config.sys, but it  didn't
help.  (yes, I did remember to reboot)

Aargh 8-(

Any suggestions??

-Peniel

ps I just edited this message, and got the @#$& error again!
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What's Posth?

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Mon, 25 May 1998 10:27:57 +1200 (NZT)

57m14s ago ...
On Sun, 24 May 1998 17:30:43 -0400, John Musielewicz wrote:

> What's Posth?

It is an add-on to POST/LX that inserts extra "header" stuff when you
reply to a message - see the top lines here for example. It is fairly
configurable. First you can have a  dateline - then there is a
delay-line and then the topline - most folk would only want the
topline. It also will add initials in front of the ">" on the left.

It's on SUPER now. Don't expect too much from it - it seems to be
tricky to get working. Unfortunately I used a non-standard TempMsgFile
in my batch file and docs - I have post.tmp whereas the default is
POST.TMP and my PEH.BAT file requires the correct case.

Also it looks like it could cause a strain on environment space.

Regards, Tony

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>
> Here's the line:  Editor=3Dpeh.bat $f $h $x Y
>                                           
> Am I nuts or is it right here? -----------|

Apologies for all the problems POSTH is causing you Peniel. I wrote it
last year and got lazy about re-chacking all the options worked. You
need to add the "T1" after the Y - the docs say having nothing is the
same as having T1 but that's not right with the PEH.BAT you rpobably
have. I fixed this when I re-uploaded to Mitch yeaterday - Mitch did
not put the original one up, just the next one.

Re the environment space thing - PEH.BAT does create 6 environment
variables and then destroy them. I never had a problem with it but if
you have other environment variables I guess you could run out of
space. I think if you type SET at a DOS prompt you get to see what is
in your environment space.

Anyway, add the "t1" that's T and one after the Y as a fifthe variable
and see how that goes.

Regards, Tony

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Does anyone know where I could get documentation for the above.

Thanks

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Hi Tony, Quinton, and group-

I appreciate all of your help.

> Apologies for all the problems POSTH is causing you Peniel.

No apology needed.  I probably still have a typo somewhere in either
post.cfg or peh.bat...

> need to add the "T1" after the Y

Tried it both ways.  Same problem.

> I fixed this when I re-uploaded to Mitch yeaterday - Mitch did
> not put the original one up, just the next one.

I'm using the new one from the SUPER site.

> Re the environment space thing - PEH.BAT does create 6 environment
> variables and then destroy them.

I noticed that.  Tried increasing environment space to 512, 1024, 2048,
and 4096. Same result.

Also tried putting echo lines after each label line in peh.bat to tell
me where the bat file was branching to...

Guess I'll keep looking for whatever I screwed up...

Thanks again.

-Peniel
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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 20:43:14 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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From:         "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Printer baud rate in 1-2-3
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
              boundary="PART-BOUNDARY=.19805242043.ZM12446.palmtop.net"

--PART-BOUNDARY=.19805242043.ZM12446.palmtop.net
Content-Description: Text
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X-Zm-Decoding-Hint: mimencode -q -u

I am still playing with this label printing thing and found the following=
 page
over at Avery:

http://www.avery.com/office_solutions/tb/av1017.html

Entitled:  Using Avery=AE Labels with Lotus 1-2-3 (DOS Versions)

I am now trying to get some data to my parallel printer through a serial =
cable
into my Linux machine as suggested by Laust (my Transdigital card won't a=
rrive
until next week):

 cat < /dev/cub1 > /dev/lp1

Now I am having trouble getting Lotus to change the baud rate of its prin=
ter
interface. The manual says to set up the Lotus printer using the Printer
section in the 200LX system setup. No matter what baud rate I set, I stil=
l see
this in Lotus when I go to print:

Interface: Ser. 1 RS232 9600
Name: System Printer

This is with my serial port set to 115200 or 19200. What am I missing?

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Subject:      SDK, etc.

        Thanks to everyone who replied regarding my question on the
SDK.  This list is a wonderful source of information and expertise that
has no equal.

        I am still a little unsure regarding the Hornet 80186 cpu.
Does anyone know if there are any unique commands that would require
assember level instructions to implement or is this something that can
be done from C?  I have found from experience writing for micro-
controllers that some routines are much faster and simply work better
in assembler.  I do not have much experience with X86 instructions, so
perhaps C is the best way to proceed.  I also would like to find the
manufacturer name so that I can write for a white paper.  I've found
this to be a great deal of help with other micro's in the past.  ie:
someone else already tried that dumb move and documented it...:)

Regards,
-
****************************************************
       mark beutler     mycroft_h@bigfoot.com

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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Subject:      battery charging

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Newsgroups: PALMTOPS

If your tired of waiting for your high capacity batteries
to charge Mack at Times2Tech is working on upping the
charging current. He is planning on selling it as an
upgrade.

____________________________________________
____________________________________________

Forwarded message

Reply-To: "Mack Baggette" <mack@times2tech.com>
From: "Mack Baggette" <mackb@gte.net>
To: "John Musielewicz" <musi0009@tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: 32mb upgrade
As for your battery charging question, the circuit is external to the=
 Hornet, so
it can be upped to 200ma.  We are going to do that ourselves and possibly=
 offer
an upgrade.  We are also looking into upping the current on the PCMCIA=
 port as
well.

The 18 hour thing you saw was a mistake and it hasn't been on the web=
 site for a
long time.  It would be advisable to charge them more than 16 hours,=
 so I at
least trickle charge them a few hours.

Cheers,
Mack

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Subject:      Posth

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What's Posth?

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Hi group-

Well, after most of a day trying to get posth to work, I finally got
past the "it does nothing" stage (after finding a bunch of my typos),
and am now getting error messages.  "out of environment space" followed
by a message that there is no fourth parameter in the Editor=3D line in
post.cfg.

Here's the line:  Editor=3Dpeh.bat $f $h $x Y
                                          
Am I nuts or is it right here? -----------|

I tried increasing the environment to 4096 using the command
shell=3Dd:\dos\command.com /E:4096 /p   in config.sys, but it  didn't
help.  (yes, I did remember to reboot)

Aargh 8-(

Any suggestions??

-Peniel

ps I just edited this message, and got the @#$& error again!
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Does anyone know where I could get documentation for the above.

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Subject:      Re: Posth

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Mon, 25 May 1998 10:27:57 +1200 (NZT)

57m14s ago ...
On Sun, 24 May 1998 17:30:43 -0400, John Musielewicz wrote:

> What's Posth?

It is an add-on to POST/LX that inserts extra "header" stuff when you
reply to a message - see the top lines here for example. It is fairly
configurable. First you can have a  dateline - then there is a
delay-line and then the topline - most folk would only want the
topline. It also will add initials in front of the ">" on the left.

It's on SUPER now. Don't expect too much from it - it seems to be
tricky to get working. Unfortunately I used a non-standard TempMsgFile
in my batch file and docs - I have post.tmp whereas the default is
POST.TMP and my PEH.BAT file requires the correct case.

Also it looks like it could cause a strain on environment space.

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>
> Here's the line:  Editor=3Dpeh.bat $f $h $x Y
>                                           
> Am I nuts or is it right here? -----------|

Apologies for all the problems POSTH is causing you Peniel. I wrote it
last year and got lazy about re-chacking all the options worked. You
need to add the "T1" after the Y - the docs say having nothing is the
same as having T1 but that's not right with the PEH.BAT you rpobably
have. I fixed this when I re-uploaded to Mitch yeaterday - Mitch did
not put the original one up, just the next one.

Re the environment space thing - PEH.BAT does create 6 environment
variables and then destroy them. I never had a problem with it but if
you have other environment variables I guess you could run out of
space. I think if you type SET at a DOS prompt you get to see what is
in your environment space.

Anyway, add the "t1" that's T and one after the Y as a fifthe variable
and see how that goes.

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Subject:      Printer baud rate in 1-2-

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--PART-BOUNDARY=.19805242043.ZM12446.palmtop.net
Content-Description: Text
Content-Type: text/plain ; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Zm-Decoding-Hint: mimencode -q -u

I am still playing with this label printing thing and found the following=
 page
over at Avery:

http://www.avery.com/office_solutions/tb/av1017.html

Entitled:  Using Avery=AE Labels with Lotus 1-2-3 (DOS Versions)

I am now trying to get some data to my parallel printer through a serial =
cable
into my Linux machine as suggested by Laust (my Transdigital card won't a=
rrive
until next week):

 cat < /dev/cub1 > /dev/lp1

Now I am having trouble getting Lotus to change the baud rate of its prin=
ter
interface. The manual says to set up the Lotus printer using the Printer
section in the 200LX system setup. No matter what baud rate I set, I stil=
l see
this in Lotus when I go to print:

Interface: Ser. 1 RS232 9600
Name: System Printer

This is with my serial port set to 115200 or 19200. What am I missing?

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Subject:      Re: Posth

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Hi Tony, Quinton, and group-

I appreciate all of your help.

> Apologies for all the problems POSTH is causing you Peniel.

No apology needed.  I probably still have a typo somewhere in either
post.cfg or peh.bat...

> need to add the "T1" after the Y

Tried it both ways.  Same problem.

> I fixed this when I re-uploaded to Mitch yeaterday - Mitch did
> not put the original one up, just the next one.

I'm using the new one from the SUPER site.

> Re the environment space thing - PEH.BAT does create 6 environment
> variables and then destroy them.

I noticed that.  Tried increasing environment space to 512, 1024, 2048,
and 4096. Same result.

Also tried putting echo lines after each label line in peh.bat to tell
me where the bat file was branching to...

Guess I'll keep looking for whatever I screwed up...

Thanks again.

-Peniel
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Hi
I recently bought a 20MB/14.4Baud modem both on the same card
as touted on this board, which turned out to be great scoop as is
usually the case.  I haven't gotten around to setting it up yet, but I
am using the memory part with not hint of a problem.  Maybe you
should look into it before you get either or.

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> I tried increasing the environment to 4096 using the command
> shell=3Dd:\dos\command.com /E:4096 /p   in config.sys, but it  didn't
> help.  (yes, I did remember to reboot)

Peniel do you need and extra d:\dos in there?:

shell=3Dd:\dos\command.com d:\dos /E:4096 /p

My DOS5 manual reckons - under the COMMAND section - that the
drive:path parameter "must be included if COMMAND.COM is not
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On Sun, 24 May 1998 22:38:24 GMT, Tony Hutchins <thutchins@acm.org> =
wrote:

> Re the environment space thing - PEH.BAT does create 6 environment
> variables and then destroy them. I never had a problem with it but if
> you have other environment variables I guess you could run out of
> space. I think if you type SET at a DOS prompt you get to see what is
> in your environment space.

Well, as you see, I've got it working...

The problem was the environment space.  When I went over the
autoexec.bat file & eliminated some unneeded set and path lines, I got
enough space.  The weird thing is that the system ignored the line in
config.sys that should increase the e-space:
        shell=3Dd:\dos\command.com  d:\dos  /e:4096 /p
and kept the e-space at 256 bytes....

Thanks again.

-Peniel
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Has anyone had success running Norton Commander v 5.0 for DOS (NC) on an
HP100LX or HP200LX?

I've had it running fine on a variety of computers, just not on an HPLX.
The problems are as follows:

After pressing ENTER over a .ZIP file to display its contents, it displays
the archived files, but it won't permit me to --
- Copy the files out of the archive.
- View a file (says "Error running the viewer 'wpview.exe'")
- Edit a file in the .ZIP file.

I've replaced all files from known good ones.

Thinking it might be a DOS version problem, I tried to use SETVER.EXE but
was unable to load it from my CONFIG.SYS file using the following command:
   device=a:\setver.exe

Notes:
- I copied SETVER.EXE to my HPLX from a set of DOS 5.0 disks. It's file
size is 12015.
- I have only one set of AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS files.  All other
commands loaded from both files.
- I've used NC v2.0 and NC v4.0 on the HPLX without problems, but they
don't have the archive file copy, view, and edit functions available in NC
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> Well, as you see, I've got it working...

That's good! I tried your shell=3D line and it seemed to work - when I
put it up by 512 bytes and rebooted a MEM/C showed the size of the
first COMMAND.COM listed go up by 512 bytes too. Whenever I do a MEM/C
I see two COMMAND.COM's there though and I wonder if the second
smaller one is governing the environment? I don't know, but the
problem does make me think I should make POSTH.EXE parse its own
command line rather than take up environment space.

Thanks for your help Peniel!

Regards, Tony

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A while back there was talk on the list of how some mice contained the
connector that would fit the serial port on the LX. can anyone tell me what
brand mouse might have such a connector?

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Has anybody had any luck remapping the keys in Mini Telnet? I would like to
remap arrow keys. I'm using the VT100 keyboard set but when using my shell
account in an application that might require the arrow keys I get a message
telling me that I'm using a number instead of an arrow key. Any suggestions
would be welcomed.

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I've been planning on working on MT after Goin' Postal version 2 gets
released.  The problem looks like MT is thinking the HP has numlock
always on.  You'll notice that the numbers that come out are the ones
on the keypad of a normal keyboard.

The screen display also needs speeding up it it's possible.

> Has anybody had any luck remapping the keys in Mini Telnet? I would like to
> remap arrow keys. I'm using the VT100 keyboard set but when using my shell
> account in an application that might require the arrow keys I get a message
> telling me that I'm using a number instead of an arrow key. Any suggestions
> would be welcomed.
>
> Jeff
>
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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 01:00:00 -0500
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Subject:      Radio Shack & other pwr supplies

Hello,

        I've noticed a number of posts regarding some power supplies
for the HP200 from Radio Shack and other sources.  I would like to make
a cautionary statement regarding that.  I have experimented with
various pcmcia cards in the HP200 and about the worst cases I found
were a National Instruments GPIB interface and a MegaHertz combo modem
& network adaptor.  The total draw from the 12 volt supply to the HP200
was 450-470 ma, with the internal charger at "high". (100ma)  BTW, the
HP200 was QUITE warm!  A more typical max load is my 2x unit with the
Simple 33.6 modem online.  This drew 320 ma @ 12 Vdc.

        The point here is that most of these "wall wart" cheapie
supplies have little or no voltage regulation of their own, rather
depending on the load they are supplying(the HP200) to pull the often
very high output voltage(19-20 volts) down to approx 12 volts.  If the
supply has a good current capacity, the HP200 may not be sufficient
load to pull the voltage down, causing the internal charger to handle a
higher voltage than it was designed for.  This, in turn, generates even
more heat inside the palmtop.

        I've found that 11Vdc @400ma capacity ought to be plenty and cause
the least amount of stress on the HP200 internal supply.  I also
decided to buy a cheap true regulated 12 volt supply for home use and
use the real hp supply when away from home.  (the hp supply's output is
11.8 volts when loaded)

        Hope this is of use to someone.

regards,


-
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Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 23:32:51 -0700
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Leo,

I just finished messing with this little (but expensive) thing. Since, I
didn't have anything to loose (as you said), I tried to Fdisk & reformat
the card.

No go. Running FDISK100 gave me the message "Fdisk is not needed for card
in slot A:". Format at first said that track 0 was bad and hence it
couldn't be formatted. I ran it again, and it said that write protection
prevented it from formatting. I tried to bring the card up (and tried,
and tried). I finally succeeded, but still I wasn't able to do anything
more. Bummer.

(15 minutes later . . .)

I don't believe it. I tried to format this silly card one more time and .
. . it worked! I don't know how. I don't know why. It just did. It took
all of about 5 seconds. I still can't get FDISK100 to touch it. I hope
that it won't matter. I ran that program (from SUPER) that returns the
cluster size to 1K, and everything SEEMS to be functioning okay. Still, I
will wait a few days, just to be on the safe side, before I really trust
this thing. It is good the warranty is so long. This way I don't feel
hard pressed to return the card to Simple Tech (whether I really need to
or not) to be certain I don't screw myself.

Thanks for the input guys!
David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)


On Sun, 24 May 1998 00:04:53 +0200 Leo Theron <leot@isdial.com> writes:
>David C Smalley wrote:
>
>> I'm having considerable trouble with my 32MB Simple Tech
>Flashcard....
>
>Dave,
>
>I had the same problem a week or two ago with my Sandisk 5 Mb.  It
>disappeared, after it gave some indications and nothing I did could read
>the disk.  Not on my Thinkpad, not on my 200LX.
>
>It was a while later that I rembered that I pulled the card to try a
>modem, but I could not be sure if everything was closed.  One of the
>tools I tried said ... FAT CORRUPTED or something to that effect.
>
>Reformatted - FDISK100 - and everything was OK.  Since you have your
>data intact, that is what I would suggest.

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 19:52:25 +1200
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> From: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Mini Telnet
> Date: Monday, 25 May 1998 17:19
>
> Has anybody had any luck remapping the keys in Mini Telnet? I would like
to
> remap arrow keys. I'm using the VT100 keyboard set but when using my
shell
> account in an application that might require the arrow keys I get a
message
> telling me that I'm using a number instead of an arrow key. Any
suggestions
> would be welcomed.
>
> Jeff

Press the {Menu} key as you use the number-pad keys like on a full-
sized keyboard, ie; 4-6-8-2 for arrow-keys.

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Joe,

>      As to the Charging cycle:
>      if the circuity is built into the HORNET chip the I agree that it =
is
>      out of bounds, However if the charging circuity is external to, =
but

It is external, somewhere on the board, I assume. .

But let's assume you find a way to jack it up to 200MAH, would
the components hold up with the added heat generated? What
about other components not related to that circuitry? I am not
sure it is such a er... hot idea (sorry about the pun)

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 04:24:34 -0400
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>But let's assume you find a way to jack it up to 200MAH, would

Hi Guys

If my high school physics serves me correctly this is the total power in the
batteries..

Current would be 200Ma....??

Perhaps picky but just trying to follow the thread..

Cheers

Russell

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>
> I too have a QV10, for much the same reasons.  Where did you get the
> software to let the HP control it?
>
> --------------------------------------------

QVREM on SUPER or in the japanese Vector site.

Regards

Antonio

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 19:38:36 +1000
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Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:
>
> > 2/ I tried getting a version of Pocket Quicken Connect for my 200LX from
> > the Intuit site but it has disappeared. Anybody know were I can get a
> > copy?
>
> I just got a copy about 3 weeks ago and it works smashingly with Quicken 98
> Deluxe. Start here:
>
> http://www.intuit.com/quicken_store/
>
> Then choose "Personal Finance" and then "Pocket Quicken Connect". You can order
> online and the package shows up in about 2 days. Highly recommended.
>
> Mitch
> S.U.P.E.R. Team
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Thanks Mitch, but after visiting the site it seems you can
only order from the U.S. or Canada. How about Australia!

Since you can't download the program from the site any other
suggestions how I can get the program?

P.S. I would really find this program useful!

Regards

Alex

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 20:33:03 +1000
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> > Though I'm not convinced that electronic commerce has yet began
>
> When you install WWW/LX Plus Version 2 and decide to purchase
> it, fire up Post/LX and press R then sit back and enjoy
> e-commerce. Over 70% of all the sales of WWW/LX Plus Version
> 2 todate have bee e-commerce, i.e. using internet only. In
> fact using Palmtop ONLY!!! I use a program that runs on the
> palmtop to process credit card payments. All the other phases
> of the operation run on the palmtop too, partially automated.

Hey! That is *really* *really* cool!

--
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>        I am still a little unsure regarding the Hornet 80186 cpu.
>Does anyone know if there are any unique commands that would require
>assember level instructions to implement or is this something that can
>be done from C?  I have found from experience writing for micro-

The Hornet IC is not a 80186 CPU. It contains a 80186 (well, as far as I
know it's really a 80188) and all the needed blocks to form a
system-on-a-chip.

All the special features of the Hornet IC are accesses through standard IN
and OUT instructions executed in the CPU, so, there are no special
assembler instructions which you would not be able to execute from C.

Regards. Nacho.

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Ignacio Garc=EDa P=E9rez wrote:
>=20
> >        I am still a little unsure regarding the Hornet 80186 cpu.
> >Does anyone know if there are any unique commands that would require
> >assember level instructions to implement or is this something that can
> >be done from C?  I have found from experience writing for micro-
>=20
> The Hornet IC is not a 80186 CPU. It contains a 80186 (well, as far as =
I
> know it's really a 80188) and all the needed blocks to form a
> system-on-a-chip.
>=20
> All the special features of the Hornet IC are accesses through standard=
 IN
> and OUT instructions executed in the CPU, so, there are no special
> assembler instructions which you would not be able to execute from C.
>=20
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No, thats not true. You could do inline asembler.

ctg@geocities.com

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 09:12:48 -0400
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I just uploaded my own fonts to my homepage. It is a collection
of fonts to overwrite the built in 80x25 and 64x16 fonts. They
all use only 4272 bytes resident and are hence exchangeable.
I also added two sets of my HV fonts.

There is a new PCMCIA card utility I wrote, to check the
presence of a card in the port. It may be used to check, if a
slightly pulled out modem card is still powered or already
disconnected. On my palmtop, an electronically disconnected
card is still hold tight physically.

Download FONT.ZIP and CARD.ZIP from:

http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 10:31:05 -0400
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On Mon, 25 May 1998 03:46:38 GMT, Tony Hutchins <thutchins@acm.org> =
wrote:

> I tried your shell=3D line and it seemed to work - when I
> put it up by 512 bytes and rebooted a MEM/C showed the size of the
> first COMMAND.COM listed go up by 512 bytes too. Whenever I do a MEM/C
> I see two COMMAND.COM's there though and I wonder if the second
> smaller one is governing the environment?

I think that's it.  I'm using a 100LX, and it doesn't have the MEM
command, but I've got a utility called MAPMEM.  It shows similar
results.  The first command.com listed increases In size when shell=3D is
used to increase e-space.  The second copy of command.com always shows
the same memory use.

My guess is that the second command.com is fired up when shelling to
DOS from a DOS app, and it reverts to the default amount of e-space.

I'll play around some more with this and see what turns up.

-PR
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pablo KIM wrote:

>Anyone in this list does use HPLX with the Macintosh computer?
>Can anyone send me software like TRANSFILE  to transfer files between Mac
>and HPLX?
I'm using a Power Mac at work, and a Mac & a DOS PC at home. Like any real Mac
user, I DON'T do Windows - but I do admire and appreciate the elegance of plain
ol' DOS (especially when it fints in my pocket).

To transfer files between a Mac and my 200LX, I simply use the built-in Datacom
and a shareware modem program ZTerm 1.01. The connection is the standard HP
serial cable mated to a standard Mac serial modem/printer cable. Dead simple,
works like a charm and I've never had a corrupted file yet.

I recall that there was a MacLink Plus version made specifically for the LXs,
but I've never used it and I don't know if it's still available. If you find
out, let us know.

Bruce

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>> All the special features of the Hornet IC are accesses through standard IN
>> and OUT instructions executed in the CPU, so, there are no special
>> assembler instructions which you would not be able to execute from C.
>>
>> Regards. Nacho.
>>
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>No, thats not true. You could do inline asembler.

Sure, but that's not ANSI C. All inline assembly is done through compiler
dependant constructions.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 11:33:54 EDT
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Hi guy
Your card pwr usage & batt opus was enlightening.  Could you expand on it?
Specifically a concise doc on specific cards and NiMh batts.  I've tried to
look it (batteries) up and there was only one book I could find and that was
not for lay people.  Your piece is worth keeping till more is elucidated.
Some of my questions are: Can I always just charge them and top them off or do
I have to shut them down.  Can they over heat, or overcharge?  What about the
memory factor?  Is specific charger necessary?  They all say, for their
specific type of batts.  Everyone has ques, eventuallyy all ques will be ans
and with that paper, all can be guided.   I have a 100V charger, what is the
effect on using 110V?

As for wal- wart batts, I've no experience but with walgreen's alkaline I
thought they were exceptional for duration..  I now use them as back ups
because they're cheep and NiMHs as day to day use.

Thanks for your time and lore.

yor pal al...........................

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 08:41:50 -0700
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Intuit phone numbers are:
800-446-8848
800-462-6765 online help
505-896-7219 technical support

-Tim
pacific@castles.com
http://members.castles.com/pacific
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From: Alex Baker <abaker@21century.com.au>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, May 25, 1998 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: Hanging on to 200LX ......

>> > 2/ I tried getting a version of Pocket Quicken Connect for my 200LX
from
>> > the Intuit site but it has disappeared. Anybody know were I can get a
>> > copy?

>
>Since you can't download the program from the site any other
>suggestions how I can get the program?
>
>P.S. I would really find this program useful!
>
>Regards
>
>Alex
>

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 11:58:50 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Pwr usage & Batts
Comments: To: Hobchi@aol.com

On 05-23 05:33pm, you had written

-> Hi guy
-> Your card pwr usage & batt opus was enlightening.  Could you expand on it?
-> Specifically a concise doc on specific cards and NiMh batts.  I've tried to
-> look it (batteries) up and there was only one book I could find and that wa
-> s

        If I get a chance, I'll take some measurements of charge
current over time for nicad and nimh batts.

->
-> As for wal- wart batts, I've no experience but with walgreen's alkaline I
-> thought they were exceptional for duration..  I now use them as back ups
-> because they're cheep and NiMHs as day to day use.


        Sorry, perhaps I should have been clearer on this point.  What
I was refering to were the generic plug-in-the wall AC-DC adapters, not
the batteries themselves.  Also all measurements were taken at the
input to the HP200LX. ie:where the adapter plugs into the 200LX.  I did
not measure the actual battery drain.  That's the next project.  If
anyone is interested in what the pcmcia cards and the single vs. double
speed units draw directly from the batteries, let me know, and I will
pursue this further.  I only have seen anecdotal data and was basically
just curious as to what the numbers really are.

        BTW, my incredibly slow Pretec 32MB card seems to draw about
45ma, whether in normal or "fast" mode.  Surprised me.


-> Thanks for your time and lore.
->
-> yor pal al...........................

You're welcome.

regards,

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 13:24:54 -0400
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Mon, 25 May 1998 13:09:50 -0500 (EST)


Greetings Kiyoshi:

1 day 10m26s ago ...
On Sun, 24 May 1998, Kiyoshi Akima wrote:

> The book is available only in Japanese. I got mine last
> year in Japan. It comes with a CD chock full of good
> freeware and shareware...

> Much of the software is also available on the SUPER site.
> Much more of it is also available at
>  http://www.vector.co.jp
>
> If you still want one, you can probably order one through
> Kinokuniya Books.  http://www.kinokuniya.com

Thanks for all the information! I was impressed by the "altCIC" driver,
and wanted to see the original program. I use MoreEXM & ZOOM, both by
Hiro, extensively. I wanted to see what was usefull in the collection,
and wanted to support the author.

What other Good Stuff is on the CD that would be usefull to non Japan
residents.

Cheers,

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 18:56:57 +0100
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Is there any likelihood in the future of being able to run DOS under
WinCE on machines like the HP620LX?

I'm quite happy with my HP200LX but the ability to run my copy of Info
Select for DOS in colour on the 620LX would be a neat proposition.

Thanks


Dr Peter Maddern
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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 10:59:21 -0700
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> > Well, as you see, I've got it working...


Hi Tony,

This is just a note to commend you on your excellent add-on program, its =
the
missing link in POST/LX keep up the good work. (:-D

I recommend to any and all users of POST/LX to download and install
POSTH.

Example POSTH adds the following header to your reply-to email:

On Mon, 25 May 1998 03:46:38 GMT, Tony Hutchins <thutchins@ACM.ORG> =
wrote:




Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.0.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 05:20:35 -0400
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Hi all,

Judging by the response to my note about using a PalmPilot
modem with a HPLX, there's a lot of interest, so I'm going to
do a quick write-up on what I did, and Mitch Hamm has graciously
offered to post it on palmtop.net. I should have it done this
week sometime.

Also, just to let you know, I do electronics as a hobby. I've
had several people ask me if I could build a modem for them
for payment. I hate to say no, but if I start doing that then
it becomes a job, not a hobby, and all of the fun goes out of
it. This is based on my experience with my other hobby, woodworking,
which I almost let turn into a job 8-).

Sorry...

John McDonald

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 11:24:33 -0700
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Yes, definitely. See Ian Dean's site www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk for details on
XT-CE. It will run any s/w compatible with the 200LX at the same speed as
the stock 200LX. You get the benefits of the 620LX with all the
backward-compatibility of older programs.

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Subject:        DOS under WinCE

Is there any likelihood in the future of being able to run DOS under
WinCE on machines like the HP620LX?

I'm quite happy with my HP200LX but the ability to run my copy of Info
Select for DOS in colour on the 620LX would be a neat proposition.

Thanks


Dr Peter Maddern
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Subject:      ELKs on the 200LX

I keep hearing of people installing ELKs on a WinCE machine running a DOS
emulator, and I can't seem to figure out how to install it on my native
DOS 200LX..  :(

Are there any binaries out there, or all source code?  I tried and tried
to get ELKs to compile on my Amiga running Linux with o luck whatsoever.

I'd greatly appreciate any suggestions on URLs, or what not..  I'll have
to reinstall the sources and cross-compiler on Linux again someday and
try it again, can't remember the output of the compiler though.

Thanks!

--
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 -                  Posted from a 200LX Palmtop Computer        o:o        -
 .  Wally@POP.UKY.EDU                           http://sac.uky.edu/~wally  .
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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 12:34:49 -0700
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Sounds like a FAT problem. Is the card under warranty?

-----Original Message-----
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 24 May, 1998 23:59
Subject: Re: Flashcard acting flaky


>Leo,
>
>I just finished messing with this little (but expensive) thing. Since, I
>didn't have anything to loose (as you said), I tried to Fdisk & reformat
>the card.
>
>No go. Running FDISK100 gave me the message "Fdisk is not needed for card
>in slot A:". Format at first said that track 0 was bad and hence it
>couldn't be formatted. I ran it again, and it said that write protection
>prevented it from formatting. I tried to bring the card up (and tried,
>and tried). I finally succeeded, but still I wasn't able to do anything
>more. Bummer.
>
>(15 minutes later . . .)
>
>I don't believe it. I tried to format this silly card one more time and .
>. . it worked! I don't know how. I don't know why. It just did. It took
>all of about 5 seconds. I still can't get FDISK100 to touch it. I hope
>that it won't matter. I ran that program (from SUPER) that returns the
>cluster size to 1K, and everything SEEMS to be functioning okay. Still, I
>will wait a few days, just to be on the safe side, before I really trust
>this thing. It is good the warranty is so long. This way I don't feel
>hard pressed to return the card to Simple Tech (whether I really need to
>or not) to be certain I don't screw myself.
>
>Thanks for the input guys!
>David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)
>
>
>On Sun, 24 May 1998 00:04:53 +0200 Leo Theron <leot@isdial.com> writes:
>>David C Smalley wrote:
>>
>>> I'm having considerable trouble with my 32MB Simple Tech
>>Flashcard....
>>
>>Dave,
>>
>>I had the same problem a week or two ago with my Sandisk 5 Mb.  It
>>disappeared, after it gave some indications and nothing I did could read
>>the disk.  Not on my Thinkpad, not on my 200LX.
>>
>>It was a while later that I rembered that I pulled the card to try a
>>modem, but I could not be sure if everything was closed.  One of the
>>tools I tried said ... FAT CORRUPTED or something to that effect.
>>
>>Reformatted - FDISK100 - and everything was OK.  Since you have your
>>data intact, that is what I would suggest.
>
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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 21:37:53 +0200
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Hello,
same as Ken I was also eagerly awaiting the birth of the keyboard adapter.
As forusing the serial port for keyboard input I found the following:

User's Guide for AccessDOS
A package of public domain MS-DOS extensions for keyboard, mouse and
sound access
Developed by:
The Trace Research and Development Center
SerialKeys      (See Section 2-6)
Some people cannot use the keyboard and mouse at all due to a
physical impairment, and must use some specially designed input
device (a communication aid, an eyegaze-operated keyboard, etc.) to
perform the functions of the keyboard and the mouse.
SerialKeys allows you to control the keyboard and mouse functions of
the computer from a special input device hooked up to the computer's
serial port.  This is done by sending the proper series of commands
and characters from the special input device to the computer's serial
port.

Can this in any way help potential developers of the interface?

Have all a pleasant day
Ales Bourek  {:>

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>Perhaps I have missed the latest update on the development of a keyboard
adapter for the HPLX. However, I am surprised it has not been created yet.
Although it is not quite a software/application, I would love to see the
completion ...>

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 22:06:46 +0200
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Hi!
just picked a pair of Singapore made (Product of Gold Peak Group)
rechargeable NiMH 1500mAh AA bateries. Standard charge rated at 14Hrs at
150mA.
I have had them in the 200LX for 4 days now. Stefan Peichls program shows a
VERY gradual decrease of voltage (about twice as slow as when I was using
the "technical" Panasonic 1300mAh NiMH AA's). The best news - the pair was
for about 9.50$ here in the Czech Republic (about half the price of the
Panasonics). I have no idea about how many cycles these new bat's will
sustain. Still it all looks like a good buy.

Ales Bourek {:>

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 22:11:53 +0200
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Hello,
when repairing a battered 200LX I have noticed, that the serial connector is
the 2mm module used BTW in connecting 2,5" HD. If you can lay a hand on a
broken laptop/notebook HD, you will find the male part suitable for a repair
of many serial ports. Some od the HD also sport a female counterpart. Also
you should be able to cut it from the connecting cable between the HD and
PC, solder to it the necessary cable and use epoxy glue to "make" a
connector.

Bye Ales Bourek {:>

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>A while back there was talk on the list of how some mice contained the
>connector that would fit the serial port on the LX. can anyone tell me what
>brand mouse might have such a connector?

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 17:23:44 -0400
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On Mon, 25 May 1998 10:59:21 -0700,
Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> This is just a note to commend you on your excellent add-on program, =
its the
> missing link in POST/LX keep up the good work. (:-D
>
> I recommend to any and all users of POST/LX to download and install
> POSTH.

I'll second this recommendation.  I got it working yesterday, after
some problems with my typos & an overfilled environment space.  Posth
is definitely a worthwhile add-in for Post/LX.  Grab the latest version
from the SUPER site.  Tony has done a nice job providing this software.


-PR
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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 14:06:51 -0700
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I'm now using the built in cc:Mail in my 200LX with Palmtop.com.  I'm using an
external modem with a serial cable.  It seems I can't tell cc:Mail to use a
higher serial rate than 19200; or can I?  My modem is a US Robotics Courier
V.Everything with the latest V.90 flash code.  It seems a shame to have the
serial connection be such a bottle neck.

Any suggestions??

Russ Brooks

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 18:07:09 -0400
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Mitch

On page 2-4 of the 200LX users guide About Configuration
Settings it says a few settings appear in both Setup and
1-2-3 including printing interface and baud. It also says
if you make a printer setting in 1-2-3 you override the
Setup setting. I would try setting the baud rate in 1-2-3
under /worksheet global default and see if that changes the
baud rate. Hope this helps.

John

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You are limited by the 200LX uart to 19200 on a singlespeed
. I have heard
that the doublespeed can operate at a faster rate. Anybody,
know if this is true?

___________________________________________________
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I'm now using the built in cc:Mail in my 200LX with
Palmtop.com.  I'm using an
external modem with a serial cable.  It seems I can't tell
cc:Mail to use a
higher serial rate than 19200; or can I?  My modem is a US
Robotics Courier
V.Everything with the latest V.90 flash code.  It seems a shame
to have the
serial connection be such a bottle neck.

Any suggestions??

Russ Brooks

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 15:19:41 -0700
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Russel,

> >But let's assume you find a way to jack it up to 200MAH, would
>
> Hi Guys
>
> If my high school physics serves me correctly this is the total power =
in the
> batteries..
>
> Current would be 200Ma....??
>
> Perhaps picky but just trying to follow the thread..

I have no idea if this is picky or not, but my high school
physics is long forgotten, so thanks for the correction. I was
not completely rigorous when I wrote the stuff.

The point now (and I'll avoid using numbers and units :)) : If
one jacks up whatever the circuit provides from 100 whatevers
to to however much, I am asking if the circuitry will be able
to sustain the load, the heat whatever. That is my point.

What do you think? I suspect that no, but I do not know.

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>The point now (and I'll avoid using numbers and units :)) : If
>one jacks up whatever the circuit provides from 100 whatevers
>to to however much, I am asking if the circuitry will be able
>to sustain the load, the heat whatever. That is my point.
>
>What do you think? I suspect that no, but I do not know.

Its 20 yrs since I did any of this stuff..  Are there any electrical
engineers or electronics ppl who can answer..

Input voltage 12V?...  Charging a 3V?  Circuit

If current goes from 100ma to 200ma  what capacity resistors etc and heat
sinks are required??

Will battery life be shortened by overheat also?

Is there a circuit diagram available for the LX??  then any corner store
electronics person should be able to answer it..

Or is my thinking too simplistic?

Regards

Russell

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then the appropriate arrow key, but this doesn't seem to work. Does anyone
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Can anybody suggest me where to find an 8Mb. CF card compatible with the
HP-360LX ?? (Not for me, i still use my old trusty 200LX).

Thanks,

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HP Palmtop Paper Magazine Back issues

1.   I have following issues for SALE or TRADE:

       *1994 (Volume 3):   Bunus Issue #1, Number 2, Number 3, Number 4
       *1995 (Volume 4):   Bonus Issue #1, Number 3, Number 5
       *1996 (Volume5):    Bonus Issue #1, Number 1, Number 4, Number 5
        *1997 (Volume 6):   Number 1, Number 3

           //////$3 each + shipping, $30 for all + shipping or trade///////

2. I  want to BUY follwoing issues.

          *1993 (Volume 2):   Jan/Feb, Mar/Apr, Oct/Nov, Bonus Issue #1,
Bonus Issue #2
          *1995 (Volume 4):  Number 2, Number 4
           *Lotus 1-2-3 Ver. 2.4 books

Please E-mail me if you are interested.


Thanks,
Yujin
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Sorry if this message is a bit off track but can you tell me where you found
mini telnet.
Thanks
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 21:27:04 -0700
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Shore Systems has them for $85 incl. shipping. A CF16MB is a better deal,
though, for $125. VISA, MC accepted. Contact me by email or fax
562.439.3678.
>
Bernie Torbik

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Can anybody suggest me where to find an 8Mb. CF card compatible with the
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Thanks,

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Date:         Mon, 25 May 1998 23:27:32 -0500
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On Mon, 25 May 1998, Tony D. Guzewicz wrote:

> Sorry if this message is a bit off track but can you tell me where you found
> mini telnet.
> Thanks
> Tony Guzewicz
>
>

I mailed it to Mitch and he's got it up on the S.U.P.E.R. site.

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 08:04:27 +0200
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But I think you can go faster with a PCMCIA modem because they have a
built-in (16650) uart...


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Author:  musi0009 at SMTP/dd.RFC-822=musi0009@TC\.UMN\.EDU
Date:    26/05/98 00:20


You are limited by the 200LX uart to 19200 on a singlespeed
. I have heard
that the doublespeed can operate at a faster rate. Anybody,
know if this is true?

___________________________________________________
__________________________________________________-


I'm now using the built in cc:Mail in my 200LX with
Palmtop.com.  I'm using an
external modem with a serial cable.  It seems I can't tell
cc:Mail to use a
higher serial rate than 19200; or can I?  My modem is a US
Robotics Courier
V.Everything with the latest V.90 flash code.  It seems a shame
to have the
serial connection be such a bottle neck.

Any suggestions??

Russ Brooks

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 08:06:14 +0200
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              Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR
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Get me the circuit diagram and I'll try to answer...!
Jez
(EE from >20 years ago!)


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Author:  rhemery at SMTP/dd.RFC-822=rhemery@POWERUP\.COM\.AU
Date:    26/05/98 01:26


>The point now (and I'll avoid using numbers and units :)) : If
>one jacks up whatever the circuit provides from 100 whatevers
>to to however much, I am asking if the circuitry will be able
>to sustain the load, the heat whatever. That is my point.
>
>What do you think? I suspect that no, but I do not know.

Its 20 yrs since I did any of this stuff..  Are there any electrical
engineers or electronics ppl who can answer..

Input voltage 12V?...  Charging a 3V?  Circuit

If current goes from 100ma to 200ma  what capacity resistors etc and heat
sinks are required??

Will battery life be shortened by overheat also?

Is there a circuit diagram available for the LX??  then any corner store
electronics person should be able to answer it..

Or is my thinking too simplistic?

Regards

Russell

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 13:39:13 +0200
Reply-To:     Pierre VIGNACQ <pierre.vignacq@turbomeca.fr>
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To the attention of list fellows and particularly potential french users:

I finally decided to let my staunch buddy go ...
So, no tears but the following for sale :

+ HP-100LX, 1MB, French version, very good condition (excepted the
unavoidable begining of the infamous crack, never tried to repair it as
perfectly usable in that condition)

+ Hand-made (custom)leather soft case with pen lodging

+ HP AC power supply / battery charger

+ Serial link / connectivity cable

+ complete packaging and documentation (in french)

+ about 10 HD floppies of zipped software applications

+ HP 5 Mo Flash disk plus stacker (10 Mo compressed).

If interested, please send offer to : Pierre.VIGNACQ@turbomeca.fr

Sincerely,

Pierre.

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 13:47:25 +0200
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dear font freaks

I like it!  It makes the palmtop feel like a new machine (like going from a
typewriter with a Courier font to a word processor)
This is the one I'm going to keep installed.
Do I have to pay someone something?
Who's Jini?  (Hemdrix?)

TIA
Jez

Connect:  Host jez.head.brain contacted.  Waiting for reply...

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Hi
Are they VARTA?   Did you get them out there?
I got some there a few months earlier
at the electronics plaza out by Bencoolan.  Nice place.
What brand are yours?

yor pal al...................................

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 13:30:48 +0100
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I have just downloaded Up Periscope onto my 200 but I don't have any
instructions.
If anyone could help, especially with torpedo firing, I would be eternally
grateful.

Thanks


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>From:    John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
>You are limited by the 200LX uart to 19200 on a singlespeed. I have he=
ard
>that the doublespeed can operate at a faster rate. Anybody, know if th=
is is
true?

When I backup using LapLink the serial speed is 115200.  I have a singl=
e speed
200LX.
I added 38400, 57600, and 115200 to the 'speed=3D' line in the CCMAIL =
PROMPT
section of
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ttings
panel.
I get an error about invalid speed if I select anything over 19200.

Russ Brooks
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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 08:29:03 -0500
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Me too , please

Jon
jonc@winternet.com



> ----------
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> Can anyone send me software like TRANSFILE  to transfer files between Mac
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> Thanks a lot.
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> pablo KIM
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For that matter, is anyone selling their copy of TC 1.0 ?

Jon C.
jonc@winternet.com




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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 10:13:23 -0400
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I do have a copy of TC 1.0 that I purchased from a used software store.
I was planning to learn "C" but do not have the time. If you want it
please e-mail me off the list.

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com



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>
>
>
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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 10:12:56 EDT
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Hi guy;

What is the font you are talking about?
Jinfont is the name of the file?
What's all the todo about it.
Why is it different?

yor pal al.....................................

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 18:55:50 +0200
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Hello,

Can anyone tell me if and how I can get my HP200LX 2Mb and my PC win 95
to talk via Lap Link remote?
The connectivity pack is installed and works(Filer)
Thanks

Etienne

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would someone send me a copy of jinifont tx also where can i get the latest
nettamer to try tried wwwlx and it was pretty good. even someone with limited
knowledge like myself was able to get it to work fairly easily. never did get
the mail part to work couldn't figure out how to turn it on after wwwlx and hv
were on the screen. but i never asked so i am sure its as easy as the rest of
the set up.tx again Roy

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 13:52:44 -0400
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Here's an idea for you PalEdit users:

Windows has a nice program called SYSEDIT.EXE which will load all of
your system configuration files for editing. Using PalEdit's database
function, you can do the same on the palmtop. I made a little batch
file called SYSEDIT.BAT that looks like this:

@echo off
c:
cd\batch
pe @

The SRCLIST file that it pulls up is:

c:\autoexec.bat       &AUTOEXEC.BAT
f:\config.sys         &CONFIG.SYS
c:\_dat\filer.ini     &FILER.INI
c:\_dat\moreexm.ini   &MOREEXM.INI
c:\_dat\pns200.ini    P&NS200.INI
c:\wwwlx\post.adr     &POST.ADR
c:\_dat\quick.dat     &QUICK.DAT

I added SYSEDIT.BAT to my AppMgr, gave it a hot key and now I have a
nice menu of files to edit when I run that batch file.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 14:11:44 EDT
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Hi John Musielewicz, Stephen Sousa, or others

Is Borland Turbo C V1.0 an ideal platform for the LX?
Why are y'all doing it instead of something else?
What would be the ideal pgmng lang if
someone were to learn something from scratch.
Would you say the same thing in light of the
coming DOS/CE?   This can get into a long
dicussion but I'm sure someone else is interested in
the answeres.

Curious.

yor pal al.............

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 13:16:21 -0500
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I have followed archive posts re WWW/LX and Netcom with no luck.  I get
connected and HV launches, but when I request a WWW doc, the response is
"Could not send request!!  No response from DNS server"

I am using demo WWW/LX v1.2.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Regards,
Jeff

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Borland Turbo C 1.0 is extremely primitive, although small.  I prefer
Turbo C++ 1.0 or Borland C++ 2.0 for compiling on the palmtop.

They're larger, but have a lot more features.
--
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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 16:43:10 -0200
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The answer is at:

http://www.palmtop.net/~jorgen/tips.htm

Nelson


> Can anyone tell me if and how I can get my HP200LX 2Mb and my PC win 95 to talk via Lap Link remote?
> The connectivity pack is installed and works(Filer)

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 15:21:49 -0700
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A word of warning to all palmtop typists:

The space bar and enter keys on the 200LX are fairly susceptible to
breakage.  They're only held on by two thin tabs of plastic, and if one of
these breaks, your key will become loose and floppy, and hard to type
with.  If the second one breaks, the key will probably fall out.

Try to hit these keys in the center when typing, and not off to the side.
I hit mine on the left all the time, and one day the left tab just snapped
right off.  Others have had similar problems with the right tab, or with
the ENTER key.

If it's already too late, and you have a broken key, it can be repaired
with superglue, but it probably won't be as sturdy as the original key.

Prevention is the key!

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 12:47:02 -0700
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Jeff,

> I have followed archive posts re WWW/LX and Netcom with no luck.  I get
> connected and HV launches, but when I request a WWW doc, the response =
is
> "Could not send request!!  No response from DNS server"
>
> I am using demo WWW/LX v1.2.

This is an old - and FIXED - problem. Get a newer version at
http://www.dasoft.com. Get the WWWLX.ZIP because all three
components have been modified.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 12:46:59 -0700
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Mitch:

> Here's an idea for you PalEdit users:

Great idea. You can also open a number of files in PE like
this:

 PE *.INI

will open all the files with .INI suffix.

I regularly use

PE *.HTM

to edit HTML files in a subdirectory.

To move from one file to another, press F7. There is also a
Menu key: Menu View Open-file-List (shows the list of all open
files, and you can go to the right one.

You can close individual files by Menu File Close - it will
close the currently displayed file, leave other open.

Ain't PE a gem?

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 17:33:27 -0700
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Just a quick note here to let you all know about the new contest at my web
site.  Enter to win valuable hardware prizes such as an 8MB upgrade and a
speed upgrade, and valuable software from D&A such as WWW/LX Plus 2.0.
Read the details on my site...

Additionally, there have been some updates to the other pages at my site,
including the FAQ, the hardward section, and the product reviews.  Enjoy!

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Group

I have a SMART 6MB mem/modem and somewhere along
the way, I lost the instructions as to how to set it up.
My problem is to get into the memory part.  Inserting it
in the slot, I can't access it in any way to format or anything.

Is there a driver that must be loaded first?   Is there anyone
out there who is familar with this particular product?
Any comments or help would be appriciated.

yor pal al..........................

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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 00:18:50 +0200
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>Is Borland Turbo C V1.0 an ideal platform for the LX?
>Why are y'all doing it instead of something else?
>What would be the ideal pgmng lang if
>someone were to learn something from scratch.
>Would you say the same thing in light of the
>coming DOS/CE?   This can get into a long
>dicussion but I'm sure someone else is interested in
>the answeres.

Here are my bits:

My ideal programming environment for the LX is Turbo C 2.0. The user
interface is not the Turbo-Vision-look like in the Turbo C++ 1.0, and it
does not compile C++, but mostly because of those two reasons, it's very
small and fast, which is very important for me in a machine with the
limitations of our LX. Moreover, I've been using Turbo C 2.0 in my pentium
desktop for many more or less simple projects for the same reasons, and
it's proved to be very stable and produce good and reliable code.

And when learning something from scratch, I've been always told that C is
probably too 'hard' to begin with. Maybe Turbo Pascal would be a better
choice for a beginner, and I think there are some versions that will run in
the LX. The fact is that actually I'm so hold on C and C++ that just can't
give a reliable opinion from the beginner's point of view.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 18:24:01 -0700
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Hey everyone -

I just bought a copy of InfoSelect and I am enjoying using what appears to be a
well designed and useful product. I am using the SWAPIS while running the
SysMgr to swap into and out of main memory, so I am experience two problems,
and wondered if anyone else had solved them. When I hotkey into InfoSelect, I
have to Fn-Zoom twice to get a normal screen, then when I exit, I get an
abnormal screen full of vertical lines. If I select a function in SysMgr, it
comes up, but the extra selection is annoying - it would be preferable to ge
right back where I had been.

I have found the fonts to be OK so far!

Thanks for any help you can give me.

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 22:30:34 +0000
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I am attempting to run AOL 1.6 on my 200LX (double speed, memory upgrade).
The read.me says not possible, must use an external modem. But one JSSzeto
says is possible, using a DataStorm file called COMPORTS.COM. DataStorm now
owned by QuarterDeck and I cannot find COMPORTS.COM on their home page. I
have successfully made AOL 1.6 dial the local AOL number and send the synch
tones, but it gets no response and times out. Anyone have the file or other
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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 15:35:45 -0700
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There's a driver needed, I can email it to you if you like.
(assuming this is the Smart Modular 6mb+2400baud modem)

> Group
>
> I have a SMART 6MB mem/modem and somewhere along
> the way, I lost the instructions as to how to set it up.
> My problem is to get into the memory part.  Inserting it
> in the slot, I can't access it in any way to format or anything.
>
> Is there a driver that must be loaded first?   Is there anyone
> out there who is familar with this particular product?
> Any comments or help would be appriciated.
>
> yor pal al..........................
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Subject:      altcic Freeware???

Recently I downloaded altcic and love it, but there was talk of
it being licenced and mistakenly posted. If this is correct, why
does it say "Distribute Freely" when loaded and unloaded?

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 19:12:29 -0700
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On Wed, 27 May 1998, David Lawrence wrote:

> Recently I downloaded altcic and love it, but there was talk of
> it being licenced and mistakenly posted. If this is correct, why
> does it say "Distribute Freely" when loaded and unloaded?

It's not just a case of mistaken distribution; it's a hack.  i.e. somebody
modified the copyrighted, non-distributable file from the HP200LX Palmtop
Bible (or whatever it was) from Japan and tried to pass it off as his own
creation.  As near as I've been able to tell, altCIC originated in
Australia (though I never spoke to the reported Australian source, and
don't know who it is, so I can't be sure).

Thus, it's NOT freely distributable, any more than a copy of Windows 98
that had been modified to say "altWin98" on startup would be.

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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 12:30:51 +1200
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Subject:      Memory upgrade???

Hi listmembers,

I have a 200LX 2meg serial SG60....

I want to increase the c: drive capacity but don't want to have
to use a software driver, ie; I want stone-axe reliability like a
std 200LX as I am constantly evaluating software and rebooting
with Shift + Ctrl + On and have a few times had to reset the C:
drive, so I am looking for something like the LX with 4meg?

I know (from this list) there are a number of mem upgrade paths,
and I want the simplest, ie; plug in 2meg to bring mine to 4meg
total.

Any and all help/suggestions gratefully accepted. Thanks in
advance.


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 17:38:38 -0700
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Hi David,

    As far as I have experienced, Mack's 32 meg upgrade offers better
than "stone-axe reliability".  More like modern high carbon steel with a
resin handle, even with the necessary software drivers.  Both three
finger salutes and removing the main batteries for a moment, do not
cause the memory to vaporize.

Colin

> I want to increase the c: drive capacity but don't want to have
> to use a software driver, ie; I want stone-axe reliability like a
> std 200LX as I am constantly evaluating software and rebooting
> with Shift + Ctrl + On and have a few times had to reset the C:
> drive, so I am looking for something like the LX with 4meg?
>
> I know (from this list) there are a number of mem upgrade paths,
> and I want the simplest, ie; plug in 2meg to bring mine to 4meg
> total.
>
> Any and all help/suggestions gratefully accepted. Thanks in
> advance.
>
> David Lawrence
> katana@clear.net.nz
>
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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 21:20:51 EDT
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              Hobchi <Hobchi@AOL.COM>
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I have a six MB C: drive and I never noticed
a driver.  Perhaps other members will confirm
this or call the people upgrading.

Mack at Times2Tech is good and he should tell you.
He is all the Palmtop Papers.

yor pal al.........................

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 21:39:20 EDT
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              Cavendishl <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
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David,

None of the Times2Tech memory upgrades takes a driver, except the 32 meg. one.
Prior to that change, the driver was associated with the speed upgrade.  You
can surely go to 6, and probably 8 meg with no special drivers.  In the 32 Meg
version, your 2 Meg chip is still there, but renamed F:, so you really have a
34 Meg solution.

Also, T2T configured machines are NOT primadona's.  I have both a 6 Meg and a
32 Meg, both double speed, and I have never had a problem which I could
attribute to the modifications.  I have worked myself into my share of Ctl-
LShift-On's without event.  In the really unlikely event that your have to say
yes to the "initialize the C: Drive" question, as long as you have an
uncompressed memory card with the drivers, its no big deal to fix things back
up.  Reloading from back-up is much more of a problem.  In fact, my
understanding is that if you have the 32 Meg vesion, initializing the RAM
drive only wipes your old 2 Meg chip, and you may well still have a fully
loaded 32 Meg drive.  (Fortunately, I can not report on this with knowledge.)

A double speed machine without the drivers still works.  The display is just
difficult to deal with.  Mack even supplies a 10 or 15 line debug script which
will fix matters without the driver.

My recommendation is to buy as much memory as you can afford, and to give the
speed upgrade consideration as well.  It makes a big difference -- more than
you would expect --particularly if you run macro's, or if you close
applications regularly, or if you do much of anything that is processor
intensive.

(Of course, I have nothing to do with T2T, other than being a very happy
customer.)

Best of luck, whatever you do.

lynn m. cavendish

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 20:54:39 -0500
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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For what it's worth, I used an X-Jack modem and the AOL 1.6 software and
was able to connect without a hitch. Good luck!

Jeff


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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 22:20:31 EDT
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Hi guy,

Re the 2MB F: drive, I only have about 250K there.
Where's the (rest of  the) beef?

Is it used else where for something else?
I just got mine back today so I'm still exploring and fixing my BATchs.
Am I missing something?
Yes I had 2MB to start with.

yor pal  al...................................................................

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Date:         Tue, 26 May 1998 21:27:33 -0500
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Could someone who's managed to get PNR/LXNNTP to work via a packet driver
please send me a copy of your wattcp.cfg file? Thanks in advance!

Jeff


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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 08:55:48 +0200
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Hobchi(?)
You may have missed some recent postings, (and maybe you are new to the
list?) but it is possible to substitute the font(s) used on the display.
You just call up a .com file from the autoexec,bat.
On the S.U.P.E.R. web site there are several different fonts, and my
original posting was asking if anyone had tried them all, and which they
liked.
So, "Jini" turned out to be my favorite (of the ones _I_ tried)
best regds
Jez

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Date:    26/05/98 16:12


Hi guy;

What is the font you are talking about?
Jinfont is the name of the file?
What's all the todo about it.
Why is it different?

yor pal al.....................................

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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 09:42:54 +0200
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>I know (from this list) there are a number of mem upgrade paths,
>and I want the simplest, ie; plug in 2meg to bring mine to 4meg
>total.

Current upgrade paths:

1- 4MB upgrade (total=6MB). Sold installed and uninstalled. Just get it,
open your 200LX, plug it in (assuming your model has the expansion
connector already soldered on the mainboard, which seems very likely for
that serial number) and go.

2- 6MB upgrade (total=8MB). Sold only installed. Very much the same than in
the case of the 4;B upgrade, but little tricky soldering is required so
it's sold only installed.

3- 32MB upgrade (total=34MB). Sold installed and uninstalled. Like the 4MB
upgrade, plug in and go. But a software driver is needed to access the 32MB
NEW drive. This is, you'll still have your old -in your words- rock-solid
C: drive, plus another 32MB drive. VERY expensive at the moment.


Seems that your best choice would be the 4MB upgrade.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 09:58:45 +0200
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I have the procedure, but written in french.
Interested?
Pierre
-----Message d'origine-----
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=C0 : HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date : mardi 26 mai 1998 19:02
Objet : Connectivity pack and Win95


|Hello,
|
|Can anyone tell me if and how I can get my HP200LX 2Mb and my PC win 95
|to talk via Lap Link remote?
|The connectivity pack is installed and works(Filer)
|Thanks
|
|Etienne
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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 04:11:22 -0600
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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Another idea for a 200LX application.

I hold a lot of ascii files in my LX with all sorts of useful
information. I usually get these from newsgroups or I mail them to
myself from a desktop when I find something interesting while surfing.
I created my own little ascii document management system that let's me
keep a database of all my files categorized with an 8 char category
field and a 60 character description field. This let's me find the
information quickly. I am able to select a file for viewing or editing
very quickly. I never need to manually update the database because it
get's all the information by looking on the disk. All the documents are
stored in zip files like so:

win95.zip
winnt.zip
unix.zip
cisco.zip
misc.zip
etc.

The database program (written in Foxpro BTW) reads the first line of
each file in the zip file to get the 60 char. description (I have to
edit each file to make sure the description is the first line.). It
uses the zip file name for the category. I can dynamically scan for
files to add to zips, rename files, view files with list (like zipray),
open files for editing and delete files from zips.

Since I wrote this in Foxpro it would be difficult to distribute as a
turnkey program. I'm also not much of a programmer so the code is very
"unclean". It's also pretty slow. The program does dos calls to zip.exe
and list.exe. It would be nice if someone wrote a program that does
what I've described in C or assembler.

I know that Zipray does some of what I've described but it can only
look at one zipfile/category at a time and has no description fields.

I Don't know if others would find this useful but I sure do. It's like
having a large nottaker file that handles large amounts of data in a
compressed format.



Thanks


BTW
If anyone wants a copy of my code, let me know. It's ugly and
uncommented but it works.





           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Registered

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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 03:34:38 -0500
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              kilgore@PYLON.PILLAR.COM
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Does anyone have any information of the format of the CALC.ENV file.
Specfically I want to be able to read/write the currency conversion
information.

BTW, please don't tell me about http://www.palmtop.net/money that is why
I want the info in the first place. If you haven't heard of the above
URL and you have use of currency conversion, definitely check it out.

--
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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 06:44:39 -0400
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> I am attempting to run AOL 1.6 on my 200LX (double speed, memory =
upgrade).
> The read.me says not possible, must use an external modem. But one =
JSSzeto
> says is possible, using a DataStorm file called COMPORTS.COM. DataStorm =
no
> owned by QuarterDeck and I cannot find COMPORTS.COM on their home page. =
I
> have successfully made AOL 1.6 dial the local AOL number and send the =
sync
> tones, but it gets no response and times out. Anyone have the file or =
othe
> suggestions? TIA.
>
I saw the file on S.U.P.E.R., but you may not need it. You should specify
com 2 as the port for a PCMCIA modem.

Darren.

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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 12:41:51 +0100
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              David Keltie <david.keltie@BTINTERNET.COM>
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> To move from one file to another, press F7. There is also a
> Menu key: Menu View Open-file-List (shows the list of all open
> files, and you can go to the right one.

Or, easier, hit Alt+F

Dave

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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 05:19:52 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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>
> > Recently I downloaded altcic and love it, but there was talk of
> > it being licenced and mistakenly posted. If this is correct, why
> > does it say "Distribute Freely" when loaded and unloaded?
>
> It's not just a case of mistaken distribution; it's a hack.  i.e. somebody
> modified the copyrighted, non-distributable file from the HP200LX Palmtop
> Bible (or whatever it was) from Japan and tried to pass it off as his own
> creation.  As near as I've been able to tell, altCIC originated in
> Australia (though I never spoke to the reported Australian source, and
> don't know who it is, so I can't be sure).

Too bad for us and the author that we can't register and pay a fee to use
it. Probably worth $10-$15 for the 6k+ savings in conventional memory.

Still, it's heartening that a 1.7k program could work so well. Guess David
will have to get crackin' at beefing up cic200 and show 'em we still write
code on this side of the pond <g>.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 06:35:15 -0700
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  From:        bamcilvaine <bamcilvaine@PALMTOP.COM>

>I just bought a copy of InfoSelect and I am enjoying using what appears to be a
>well designed and useful product. I am using the SWAPIS while running the
>SysMgr to swap into and out of main memory, so I am experience two problems,
>and wondered if anyone else had solved them. When I hotkey into InfoSelect, I
>have to Fn-Zoom twice to get a normal screen, then when I exit, I get an
>abnormal screen full of vertical lines. If I select a function in SysMgr, it
>comes up, but the extra selection is annoying - it would be preferable to ge
>right back where I had been.

I'd recommend getting Software Carousel (available through Thaddeus
800-373-6114). It will allow you to select a seperate partition for IS and
gives you a total of 100K for each of your database file sizes (if you you use
an EMS driver you can get a lot more but that is another story). I use SC with
IS all of the time and I have no problems about the video when I switch using
SC. Also, I don't know if you have this problem with SWAPSIS but using IS and
SC allows the HP to switch automatically back to the APPTMGR for alarm
appointments (that way you don't have to rememember to switch back to SYSMGR
everytime you go into IS).

Another idea is to buy the IS version 1.0 for Windows. That way you can run IS
under the Windows enviroment using the same data. You upload the IS info to
the PC when you are PC based (during the day for instance) and download the IS
data from your PC to the HP before you leave for home.

Hope you continue to enjoy using IS. Until I started using IS I was seriously
thinking about switching back to my Pilot. The Pilot is really nifty for
searching and if they every got a keyboard for that device, I'd seriously
think about swithcing permanently. Of course I'd miss Lotus and HPCALC (which
I think is almost worth the price of the Palmtop itself). Anybody who has
actually used a real HP 17II knows that it has a lousy LCD screen.
===
Dave Hart (hartd@poboxes.com)
Dayton, OH USA
Pillar of Fire, Pillar of Truth
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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 10:12:11 EDT
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Ed Padin
I'm a info collector too, but I use the LX sysaps DB engine
Its saved me hundredssss/thousandsss of hours by not
having to pgm my ow database engine. I did a few Paradox
things and they were easy but I thought they were too big
for the LX..  The LX can be enhanced with a few bells and
whisles but it served well.  I have about 70 DBs in many
varied subjects from LX, PC, Win notes to herbs and
travel.   Wanna (privately) trade?   My notes were for
personal use as such I copied a lot of it verbatem, so
to pu it on the public forum is plegerizing if not copyright
infringement.
From what you say, have you ever looked into INFO SELECT?
Its surpose to be a free form DB slinger.  I saw it about 10 years ago
and never got it to work properly for whatever reason.   Hmmmm.

yor pal al................................

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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 10:18:12 -0400
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I just got this request from a would-be subscriber. Can anyone offer a
suggestion {off this LIST ;-) }

..AJKind


--- begin of forwarded message ---

Subscriber Comments: I am looking for some software to Sync a HP620
with Goldmine Software. I've tried Intellisync from Puma Tech. but, it
will not work on Large Databases.

I have 62,000 contacts in my database, but, I only need to Sync 500 or so
contacts at a time. However, to get those 500 contacts the Sync software
needs to search the entire 62,000 contacts.

Puma Tech Software (in the words of their tech support group) "with a
contact database of 2-3 thousand contacts the sync process will take over =
3
hours".

With 62K of contacts it takes longer than I will live.

Does anybody have any suggestions???

I cannot replace Goldmine and I need more functionality than a Palm =
Pilot.

Thanks in advance for any responses

Jeff Weiner
SoftStar Consulting
800.485.3811
jweiner@softstar.com

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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 11:06:53 +0000
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> Hey everyone. I thought that with the outstanding job that was done with the
> comparison of the BIG THREE email programs, I thought that I would ask a
> comparison which will not have nearly as broad based application or support,
> but one that I am curious about none the less. I have seen several small
> threads discussed on it, and I would like to hear the well balanced opinnions
> that are voiced here on a regular basis.
>
> The programs I am interested in are Agenda, InfoSelect, and AskSAM. If anyone
> out ther has experience with one or more of these programs, I would appreciate
> hearing about it. I currently own Agenda, and I am considering purchasing one
> of the others as well. I am particularly interrested in their functionality on
> the HPLX.
>
> Thanks for any input I receive on this!
>
> Brian
>


I don't know about a well thought out comparison, but I own all 3 of
these in various versions so I'll give the following observations.



Agenda got very slow on my 286 desktop back when I first bought it.
the more data in the application, the slower it seemed to get.  If
you turn off some of the features like autocomplete it helps cut the
lag time while entering items.   For this reason I never put it on my
200LX.  I see posts from others who are using it on the palmtop -
so it will run.   Since I didn't try it I won't comment on the
useability  (speed).   Items are limited in size to - I don't
remember exactly, but less than 255 characters I think.    Anything
longer is put in an item note.

Infoselect (DOS) is in my opinion the best of these 3 for my uses -
random info - some date stamps or ticklers for notes that require
action by some deadline.  Searches are fast - but limited to simply
getting all notes which contain certain character strings.  It is
fast not complicated to use and pretty flexible.
Note size is 32k or less.

I own an older version of AskSam for DOS and also the first windows
version and have downloaded the demo for version 5.1 (the latest).  I
haven't learned to use it well, so htis is just my first impression.
It is good for freeform text with well evolved search features.  I
understand it was developed for handling research in college studies
and it handles documents well.  I'll leave the reporting of really
using it on the HPLX to somebody else, but I think it should work
fine.


As to you evaluating which suites your needs,  Agenda you have,
Infoselect DOS (if still available) was selling for $49 from
MicroLogic,  I think AskSam Dos 5.1 will run you several hundred
dollars  ($349?)  AskSam still supports their dos version and the
price reflects the cost of handling this support.  I asked if they
still develop new DOS versions and the tech guy didn't think so.  If
they drop support for it the price will be reduced.  Probably if you
can use the features it may well be worth the price of admission to
have access to tech support to get you up to speed with the
product.

In looking around I have seen a number of PIM type programs you might
want to look at ( I'll stick with InfoSelect).   I'll compile a list
of the interesting ones and where I got the files and post it when I
get a chance.  I need to research where I downloaded them so if
anybody is interested they won't have to inquire where to get it.


Hope this has been useful

















Mike Melancon
melancon@prysm.net

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This was just posted in CSP. Probably of interest only to UK folks.

- Longden

On Wed, 27 May 1998, Simon Crabb wrote:
Simon Crabb <forsale@north.org>

> HP 200LX Palmtop PC
>
> 1MB version with soft carry case, and serial cable.
>
> Very good condition, sale due to upgrade.
>
> Wanting 150 UKP ono inc UK P&P.
>
> Simon.

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I saw a nikon digital camera that might be interesting.  It had a plug in
base that was a pcmia card.  I thought it would fit nicely in the 200lx's
slot.

However, I never bought it so I cannot comment on its pictures.
-----Original Message-----
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Thursday, May 21, 1998 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: My take on digital cameras and the HPLX


> The short of this rambling:  If you are looking for a digital camera for
> use with your HPLX, I would recommend you take a look at the Konica
> Q-Mini.

I am having great luck with the Kodak DC-210 and you are right, compact
flash makes everything extremely simple. I have both a 4MB and a 15MB
card for mine and even sneak them in to help back up my 200LX when they
are not full of pictures.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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To all;
Anyone into scaning for the LX?   What are the scan
params used for a small size file, as for a top card.
My scan file size are usually humungas.
I have an old Scanmaker II that takes three passes to
do a color pic.   However I edit the color out (of course)
and still the file sizes ate 50KB or so.
My pics are also too big..    I've also tried to cut the real estate
to a minimum.         alas I'm not into art.
How do you get a 200k file as sysaps icons are?   Hmmmmmmmm...
any comments are helpful.

yor pal al.....................................

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On Wed, 27 May 1998, William R. Ponsoldt Jr., Esq. wrote:

> I saw a nikon digital camera that might be interesting.  It had a plug in
> base that was a pcmia card.  I thought it would fit nicely in the 200lx's
> slot.
>
> However, I never bought it so I cannot comment on its pictures.

I think you're talking about the Nikon Coolpix 100 and this was discussed
recently when some places began discounting them to $100. Several 200LX
owners also had these Nikons and, sad to report, the PCMCIA was
incompatible with the LX (exact reasons never uncovered), even tho the
picture quality was deemed good.

- Longden

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I have been playing around with this and have been pretty soundly
defeated so far. I believe the problem lies in there just not being
enough memory to run PGP under POST/LX while PalEdit is running. I
checked my DOSBox under POST/LX and I have about 290K. I also set up a
DOS session under AppMgr and kept decreasing its size until PGP would
no longer run; it needs 265K to do its thing. Since PalEdit needs 180K
minimum, there doesn't seem to be any way to set PGP as an external
filter in PE while under POST/LX...

Even though, PGP has a command line switch (-f) that will allow you to
use the UNIX-style redirects. The following line will sign and encrypt
a file with your secret key:

pgp -feast <POST.TMA >SCRATCH

Which is exactly how you set up a PE filter and should work if there
were enough memory. So this leads me to wonder if there is a way to use
PGP from POST/LX --after-- a message has been composed since I seem to
have enough memory without PE running.

I looked in the POST/LX help doc and it wasn't really evident how such
a thing could be done. Maybe some of you experts in POST/LX can lend a
hand. Here is the way I envision it working:

1) You will need access to the normal PGP tasks such as clearsign,
encrypt, clearsign then encrypt, and decrypt. Key management would be
nice, but is not necessary.

2) After you compose a message, you highlight it or open it in POST/LX
and then run the external command for clearsign. For clearsign then
encrypt, you would also need to enter a list of recipients who can
decrypt the message. The resulting text would then --replace-- the
message body of the original message.

3) For decrypt, you would open the encrypted message then run the
external command to unlock the message. The resulting text would show
up as the message body of a --new-- message with same headers as the
encrypted original. This would allow you to keep the encrypted version
if it contained sensitive info.

To simplify the interaction with PGP and its constant desire to have
your pass phrase, you could have a batch file that starts POST/LX also
set the PGPPASS environment variable. This is a little dangerous, but
on a palmtop the risk is probably acceptable.

Please give this some thought, forgive me the long message, and let me
know if you have any ideas. Thanks!

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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I've done some scanning to make topcards for the LX.  I have a series of
Dilbert strip topcards; the average file size is between 9-11K.  You just
need to make sure it's a 640x200, 1-bit PCX file.  And invert it before
you save it, as otherwise they will come out inverted on the screen.

The topcard switching program that's available is of great use if you have
a bunch of topcards that you'd like to switch randomly.  I get a new
Dilbert cartoon every time I reboot.  :)

--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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I would like to try to sign on to my aol account with my 200lx 5 meg. any step
by step info out there anywhere? do you still have to go thru sprint?

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Ales Bourek wrote:
>just picked a pair of Singapore made (Product of Gold Peak Group)
>rechargeable NiMH 1500mAh AA bateries. Standard charge rated at 14Hrs at=

>150mA.
>I have had them in the 200LX for 4 days now. Stefan Peichls program show=
s
a
>VERY gradual decrease of voltage (about twice as slow as when I was usin=
g
>the "technical" Panasonic 1300mAh NiMH AA's). The best news - the pair w=
as
>for about 9.50$ here in the Czech Republic (about half the price of the
>Panasonics). I have no idea about how many cycles these new bat's will
>sustain. Still it all looks like a good buy.

Ales
 I have been using these for about 6 months now and they're great. They
give a much longer life than my previous 950mAH NiCads (more than the
expected half as much again) and they seem to be much more tolerant of
being charged when not fully discharged ( i.e. no apparent memory effect =
so
far).

One point to note is that you will really need ABC/LX to control charging=

properly as the in built 6 hour high charge cycle will not get them
anywhere near fully charged. As it is ABC/LX is limited to a maximum of 1=
6
hours charge which may only just be enough (as has been discussed on
another thread recently).

Due to the long charge required to fully charge them, I have got into the=

habit of recharging overnight before they get flat, thus reducung the
recharge to the night hours rather than the night hours and most of the
next day.

Laurence Harvey

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Anyone know of a mail order source for these batteries?

Michael Stocker
e-mail: mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
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Hello,
thanks for all the tips. Yes, I have just got a copy of ABC/LX. You are
totally right about the 16 hr. charging time. As the 200LX does get rather
warm, I have a habbit of recharging it overnight not lying down, but open
and standing on one side (like an open book) to facilitate cooling.

Enjoy the day!
Ales Bourek {:>

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I will try to ask the store, where I bought them.

Bye Ales Bourek.

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>Anyone know of a mail order source for these batteries?
>
>Michael Stocker
>e-mail: mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
>home page: http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm
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Hi!
Boy that was a great answer. I can't , at this time ,get on the internet.


Thanks
Helmut in Colorado

When you can clean "Windows" only then will it be good.

On Tue, 26 May 1998 16:43:10 -0200 Nelson Naspitz <nnaspitz@hotmail.com>
writes:
>The answer is at:
>
>http://www.palmtop.net/~jorgen/tips.htm
>
>Nelson
>
>
>> Can anyone tell me if and how I can get my HP200LX 2Mb and my PC win
>95 to talk via Lap Link remote?
>> The connectivity pack is installed and works(Filer)
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Michael;

Unless you luck onto a source, they're hard to come by (cheeep).
Usually they're 11-13 mAh for about $10, some at radio shack.
Coming back in TYO airport, I saw a great pair (Sony), but either
my memory or my calculations must fail me for I thought they
were $50.  Then again 1500 mAh, Hmmmm
Can anyone say yea or nay?

You can try electronic shops in big cities.

yor pal al...................................

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All...................
I use two sets of batts and charge them alternately
with a General Electric GEBC1H ($10) one hour NiCAD
charger on NiMhd.  I run it 2-3 three cycles
and the batts show a high 2.78- 2.82. What's neat is
that the charger is small and slim like the HP pwr adapter.

Is there something wrong with this approach?
What I don't like is my LX heating up and the
screen goes foggy.  I know the reason but it still scares me.

NB: GE does not recommend you use anythig but NiCads.

yor pal al................................

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Are there any hams on the list who use the 200LX and a Yaesu FT50 along with
the BayPac modem for packet? If so, did you buy the speaker/mic cable or did
you make your own? If you made your own or know how to make one please
contact me. I've used a BayPac with an Icom radio and the 200LX, but it had
the standard dual speaker/mic, not the single plug like the Yaesu. Sorry
about being slightly off topic, but it does involve the use of a 200LX :)

73's
Jeff

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Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> Are there any hams on the list who use the 200LX and a Yaesu FT50 along with
> the BayPac modem for packet? If so, did you buy the speaker/mic cable or did
> you make your own? If you made your own or know how to make one please
> contact me. I've used a BayPac with an Icom radio and the 200LX, but it had
> the standard dual speaker/mic, not the single plug like the Yaesu. Sorry
> about being slightly off topic, but it does involve the use of a 200LX :)
>
> 73's
> Jeff
>
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> Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.10alpha) REGISTERED
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Thats no more off topic than discusson of a GPS system.

:) <-- Carpman, bordeom's last victom

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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 18:28:08 -0700
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Dave,

> > To move from one file to another, press F7. There is also a
> > Menu key: Menu View Open-file-List (shows the list of all open
> > files, and you can go to the right one.
>
> Or, easier, hit Alt+F

Yes, PE is one of those programs that lets you skin a cat in
several ways ;-) ... Thanks...

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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 21:26:30 -0500
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> Are there any hams on the list who use the 200LX and a Yaesu FT50 along =
with
> the BayPac modem for packet? If so, did you buy the speaker/mic cable =
or did
> you make your own?

Close. I built my own cable for a Yaesu FT-51R and a BayPac BP-2M. I
used a piece of Cat 5 ethernet cable, a 2 mini stereo plugs, and a
piece of HP serial cable chopped off of an original Skytel 2-way
pager kit. And it works! :)

I do not have the cable or radio with me (traveling with my VX-1R), but
I can drag it all back out when I return home this weekend.

73 de Mitch N8XS

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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 21:26:48 -0500
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>I am using the SWAPIS while running the
>SysMgr to swap into and out of main memory, so I am experience two problems,
>and wondered if anyone else had solved them.

Have you tried running IS from SysMgr without SWAPIS?

In my path I have a:\is\is.exe N :210 where : is the combination of the
shifted backslash key.

To activate IS, I press & (or More) apps, then ENTER for the InfoSelect
icon I set up.

I can then move among IS and any of the built-in apps without problem. IS
is called up by the CTRL-Lotus 123 blue key combination (as does any DOS
application running from SysMgr). THe applicationss all come up in the
proper font size and without any of the screen problems you described.


Alan

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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 21:43:18 -0500
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On Wed, 27 May 1998, Mitchell Hamm wrote:

> Close. I built my own cable for a Yaesu FT-51R and a BayPac BP-2M. I
> used a piece of Cat 5 ethernet cable, a 2 mini stereo plugs, and a
> piece of HP serial cable chopped off of an original Skytel 2-way
> pager kit. And it works! :)
>
> I do not have the cable or radio with me (traveling with my VX-1R), but
> I can drag it all back out when I return home this weekend.
>
> 73 de Mitch N8XS

But doesn't the FT-51R use the dual plug scenario, where the VX-1R and
FT-50R use the single plug with four connectors on it. It's one of those
items that you can't get at Radio Shack :( There's got to be a way to
modify something to work.

73's
Jeff

P.S. The ethernet cable is a good idea since it's shielded

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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 22:06:11 -0600
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> From:          Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
>
> Could someone who's managed to get PNR/LXNNTP to work via a packet driver
> please send me a copy of your wattcp.cfg file? Thanks in advance!

Go to my web page, click the FTP link, and you can download everything
that you need to access multiple POPs from multiple ISPs from multiple
locations.  If you're only going to access one, you can pretty much
combine all of the .cfg file included into one wattcp.cfg file.
--
Tom Hoover N5NTM <thoover@pobox.com> - http://pobox.com/~thoover
    - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
     ------- finger thoover@pobox.com for PGP key --------

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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 20:08:38 PDT
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              Mike Joseph <hppalmtop@HOTMAIL.COM>
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David,
I can heartily recommend the 4meg upgrade from Marcan (MDN). I had my
1meg unit upgraded, giving me 5meg total with 4.5meg for storage. The
nice thing about this is that it is affordable (79.00) and bulletproof
(Hey, if I can't break it no one can :-) No drivers are involved, all
done by the hardware. I even got to talk with the tech that worked on it
as he explained what he was going to/did do. Check it out @
www.marcan-dist.com/
Just a happy customer!

>Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 12:30:51 +1200
>Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
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>From:         David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
>Subject:      Memory upgrade???
>To:           HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>
>Hi listmembers,
>
>I have a 200LX 2meg serial SG60....
>
>I want to increase the c: drive capacity but don't want to have
>to use a software driver, ie; I want stone-axe reliability like a
>std 200LX as I am constantly evaluating software and rebooting
>with Shift + Ctrl + On and have a few times had to reset the C:
>drive, so I am looking for something like the LX with 4meg?
>
>I know (from this list) there are a number of mem upgrade paths,
>and I want the simplest, ie; plug in 2meg to bring mine to 4meg
>total.
>
>Any and all help/suggestions gratefully accepted. Thanks in
>advance.
>
>
>David Lawrence
>katana@clear.net.nz
>
>Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
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In His Service,
Pastor Mike Gibson
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revmike@palmtop.net
hppalmtop@hotmail.com
? What next ?

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Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 20:18:34 -0700
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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Does anyone know what port/irq the modem built into the 700lx uses?  Is
it at a different port, or is it simply enabled/disabled as an interface
on COM1 like the LED on the 200LX?  If the latter, anyone know what's
needed to do this?

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 03:23:33 EDT
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Anybody do this? I can't track down the JetEye PC/Printer IR Interface I read
about awhile back. It would seem to promise the simplest way to print from my
HP200. If not this, what?

Ed Callahan

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 09:54:17 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Hi,

The modem is the Nokia DTP-2 card, I read somewhere that the Hornet chip
supports 2 pcmcia slots. Someone I know opened it and said that he
recognized the card. In the built-in apps one just selects phone as
interface. For other apps, like Goin' Postal or Nettamer, one has to run
SERCTL /P in dos first. After closing you should run SERCTL /O to turn off
the serial port to save batteries. The port is com1 I think, look in the
manual, serctl is listed in the index. I just switched to a 200LX because it
is less bulkier...

Franklin

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>Does anyone know what port/irq the modem built into the 700lx uses?  Is
>it at a different port, or is it simply enabled/disabled as an interface
>on COM1 like the LED on the 200LX?  If the latter, anyone know what's
>needed to do this?

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 03:45:59 EDT
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Info Select is my primary data base.  It was previously called Tornado, a much
better name.   The newest Windows 95 version is so far a dissapointment
though.  I still use the Win 3.2 version.    The DOS version runs in 50k
bytes.   It's the ideal at your finger tips data base.    I can't help you
with installation though, it's always loaded without problem for me.  You have
to hit some control keys to "activate" it in the DOS version.

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 10:08:15 +0200
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              Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR
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I'm coming to San Francisco in mid-June (DAC98 conference) and would like
to hear from any palmtoppers in that area of any stores worth a visit?  Is
there a Fry's in SFO?  (I won't have time to go south)
TIA
jez

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 04:10:23 -0400
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              James Scheffler <jscheffl@BBN.COM>
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Alrighty, after mucho discussion about the 'perfect' palmtop c-compiler,
and after noting that GETTING one is exceedingly difficult to do on a
simple jog around the web (we should all be able to just GET it, right?
there should be something on SUPER!)  well, it occurrs to me I can do two
things at once.  I can solve the compiler shortage in my own eyes, and
learn a GREAT deal to boot, by writing a C-Compiler, optimized in size for
the 200LX.  Never written a compiler before, so any advice, caveats, etc,
would be appreciated.  Or if any more experienced coders out there want to
go for it, then by all means.. go for it.  I was thinking of doing it as a
command line utility, not a development environment. (i.e. no editor) for
the simple reason that editors take up space, and there's a perfectly good
one in ROM already.

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 04:25:42 -0500
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              Arturo Galindo Godinez <agalindo@MAIL.GIGA.COM>
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Hi there y'all, what in the name of goood is cf card adn what is it for?
TIA

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 05:57:00 -0500
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              Mitchell Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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> Anybody do this? I can't track down the JetEye PC/Printer IR Interface =
I read
> about awhile back.

The company is Extended Systems (http://www.extendedsystems.com) and
their IR printer interface will work with IR printer drivers on SUPER.
You will be able to print from all the built-in apps except for Lotus.
It won't work from DOS apps.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 06:59:32 -0400
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              Pierre_CORONEL@TELTEC.CCMAIL.COMPUSERVE.COM
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     I like to open my HP100LX for service.
     Does anybody know how to do so?
     Is a special tool required?
     Thanks in advance for your inputs.

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 13:38:22 +0200
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              Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR
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You'll need the correct size Torx screwdriver #6 - all the details are at:
http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/inside.htm

Jez
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     I like to open my HP100LX for service.
     Does anybody know how to do so?
     Is a special tool required?
     Thanks in advance for your inputs.

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 08:00:59 -0400
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              Jim Krist <jtkrist@CLARK.NET>
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The syntax and semantics for the full C language are more complicated
than you think.  I'm still amazed (after 20 years of C programming) of
the things that are legal and useful, not to mention the things that are
legal but not what you intended.

There used to be a lex/yacc description of C somewhere on the internet
(how's that for a useless tip).  Don't start from scratch.

For your first compiler, you might want to try a simplified language of
your own design that looks like C.  Tokenize the input, then use
recursive descent to handle the elements of the program.  Finally,
generate assembler code.  Leave optimization for future work.

You'll definitely learn a lot from this project.
--
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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 07:11:23 -0500
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              kilgore@PYLON.PILLAR.COM
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I am still looking for some working or dead HPLXs.  In particular I am
looking for a dead 100lx (or even a empty case for one) and a working
95lx.

Thanks,

Stan

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yOn Thu, 28 May 1998, Mitchell Hamm wrote:

> > Anybody do this? I can't track down the JetEye PC/Printer IR Interface
> > I read about awhile back.
>
> The company is Extended Systems (http://www.extendedsystems.com) and
> their IR printer interface will work with IR printer drivers on SUPER.
> You will be able to print from all the built-in apps except for Lotus.
> It won't work from DOS apps.

I have one of those (Jeteye 9510). It's been awhile since I used it, but I
seem to recall being able to print off the native apps without much fuss.
DOS and Lotus required loading a provided driver in the config.sys:
        device=a:\utl\jeteye.sys lpt1

and that allowed printing from DOS apps and Lotus.

- Longden

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I have a working 95LX but the hinge is broken on the right side.  Not a
simple hinge crack but the unit works perfectly as far as I know.  I will
need to make sure my son is willing to part with it.  Contact me directly
if interested.

Jim

Stan Hall wrote:

> I am still looking for some working or dead HPLXs.  In particular I am
> looking for a dead 100lx (or even a empty case for one) and a working
> 95lx.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stan
>
> --
> Stan Hall
> Pillar Communication
> http://www.telepath.com/pillar
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At 04:10 28/05/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Alrighty, after mucho discussion about the 'perfect' palmtop c-compiler,
>and after noting that GETTING one is exceedingly difficult to do on a
>simple jog around the web (we should all be able to just GET it, right?
>there should be something on SUPER!)  well, it occurrs to me I can do two
>things at once.  I can solve the compiler shortage in my own eyes, and
>learn a GREAT deal to boot, by writing a C-Compiler, optimized in size for
>the 200LX.  Never written a compiler before, so any advice, caveats, etc,

Do you realize that compiler writing is one of the most complex programming
tasks ?

Don't recommend to try it unless you have some experience on this field.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 07:53:00 -0500
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I agree with Mike.  Marcan's 4meg upgrade was very well documented on how
to install and I am thoroughly happy with my 5Meg HP200LX!  Thanks Marcan!





Mike Joseph <hppalmtop@HOTMAIL.COM> on 05/27/98 10:08:38 PM

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David,
I can heartily recommend the 4meg upgrade from Marcan (MDN). I had my
1meg unit upgraded, giving me 5meg total with 4.5meg for storage. The
nice thing about this is that it is affordable (79.00) and bulletproof
(Hey, if I can't break it no one can :-) No drivers are involved, all
done by the hardware. I even got to talk with the tech that worked on it
as he explained what he was going to/did do. Check it out @
www.marcan-dist.com/
Just a happy customer!

>Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 12:30:51 +1200
>Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
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>From:         David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
>Subject:      Memory upgrade???
>To:           HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>
>Hi listmembers,
>
>I have a 200LX 2meg serial SG60....
>
>I want to increase the c: drive capacity but don't want to have
>to use a software driver, ie; I want stone-axe reliability like a
>std 200LX as I am constantly evaluating software and rebooting
>with Shift + Ctrl + On and have a few times had to reset the C:
>drive, so I am looking for something like the LX with 4meg?
>
>I know (from this list) there are a number of mem upgrade paths,
>and I want the simplest, ie; plug in 2meg to bring mine to 4meg
>total.
>
>Any and all help/suggestions gratefully accepted. Thanks in
>advance.
>
>
>David Lawrence
>katana@clear.net.nz
>
>Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive
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In His Service,
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revmike@iserv.net
revmike@palmtop.net
hppalmtop@hotmail.com
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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 15:35:51 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Hello all,

Anybody got a Tekram IR-210 IrDA adapter to work with a 200/700 LX?

PC with W95, got latest IrDA 2.0 driver/update off microsoft site. Followed
the directions on one of the last pages in the booklet and the hardware
seems to work. We tested with a Nokia 6110 GSM telephone and the W95 irda
panel recognizes the 'phone. We have tried to use datacomm on the LX and
Terminal on the pc, but not much success. We have tried different computers
and different adapters with different LX's. We have tried Omnigo 700LX's,
the 200LX needs a driver to make it compatible, doesn't it? Do we need a
driver at all? There is talk of a Jeteye here on the list, there one needs a
driver, is that to make the 200lx irda-compatible?

I have managed to get rubbish across, but not always and not both ways...
Settings are down to 2400, 8N1, hardware handshaking. Strange really, 3 of
us working in different places, on different computers, with different
backgrounds, same results. So we must be missing something... :-)

I seem to remember having got a Toshiba laptop to work partly some time ago,
but I don't have access to a laptop with built-in irda.

By the way, we are several people here in Oslo working on trying to get this
to work... I was hoping to get Transfile to connect to Filer via irda, at
the moment I am using a cable... Would be nice to just put the Omnigo down
and transfer! :-)

Have a nice day!

Franklin

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 08:39:39 -0500
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Ignacio Garc=EDa P=E9rez wrote:
>=20
> At 04:10 28/05/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >Alrighty, after mucho discussion about the 'perfect' palmtop c-compile=
r,
> >and after noting that GETTING one is exceedingly difficult to do on a
> >simple jog around the web (we should all be able to just GET it, right=
?
> >there should be something on SUPER!)  well, it occurrs to me I can do =
two
> >things at once.  I can solve the compiler shortage in my own eyes, and
> >learn a GREAT deal to boot, by writing a C-Compiler, optimized in size=
 for
> >the 200LX.  Never written a compiler before, so any advice, caveats, e=
tc,
>=20
> Do you realize that compiler writing is one of the most complex program=
ming
> tasks ?
>=20
> Don't recommend to try it unless you have some experience on this field.
>=20
> Regards. Nacho.
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Compiling is nothing, just packing object code into an executeable. The
hard part is the interpritation. What I would do is go get the source
for the GNU C compiler, and look at it as a model.=20

ctg@geocities.com

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There is a Fry's here in Sacramento.

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 10:11:54 EDT
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Hi Jeff;

Are yahoo and hotmail considered POPs?

yor pal al........................................

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 10:11:58 EDT
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Hi

Plato  said the reasons he did (community) things was
because no one else could do it or he thought he could
do it better than anyone else.

You'll sure learn a lot.
Go fo it.

yor pal al.......................

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 10:12:00 EDT
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Hi guy;

Would you mind  uploading me a copy?
Thanks.

yor pal al...............

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 10:11:51 EDT
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Why be happy with 6 or 8 MB?

32MB is SOLID enough as there is no guranntee you
can cross town or even the street alive.
C; drive can go with or without drivers.
Why the THING on stone hard and drivers?

The only inhibiter is cost. It is a bit steep in light of the fact
that you could stick the chip in yourself?

Go for it.
yor pal al......................................

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Al Chin wrote:
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> Hi Jeff;
>
> Are yahoo and hotmail considered POPs?
>
> yor pal al........................................
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No. They are web-based. :P yuck.

ctg@geocities.com

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 10:43:34 -0400
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              Nedim Cholich <nedim@ATHENS.NET>
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Hmm. I didn't wanna say anything on the Quake2 topic, but this one is just
too much. Forgive me, but you sound like you don't know what you're talking
about. C Compiler??? What you see on the compiler market today, is done by
either large groups of people and/or programming 'giants' that have *a lot*
of experience behind them. And that's the case not just with C, but with any
computer language compiler/interpreter. "I'm gonna make me compiler during
my lunch break" just won't do it!

It's ok to try, but statements like this make programming look like child's
play.

No hard feelings :)

Nedim.

P.S.
Now, if you're gonna try to port gcc to LX, that would be another story.

---
Nedim Cholich
Software Developer
Athens' Isp Inc.
http://www.athens.net

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of
> James Scheffler
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 1998 4:10 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: C-Compiler
>
>
> Alrighty, after mucho discussion about the 'perfect' palmtop c-compiler,
> and after noting that GETTING one is exceedingly difficult to do on a
> simple jog around the web (we should all be able to just GET it, right?
> there should be something on SUPER!)  well, it occurrs to me I can do two
> things at once.  I can solve the compiler shortage in my own eyes, and
> learn a GREAT deal to boot, by writing a C-Compiler, optimized in size for
> the 200LX.  Never written a compiler before, so any advice, caveats, etc,
> would be appreciated.  Or if any more experienced coders out there want to
> go for it, then by all means.. go for it.  I was thinking of doing it as a
> command line utility, not a development environment. (i.e. no editor) for
> the simple reason that editors take up space, and there's a perfectly good
> one in ROM already.
>
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Take a boat, don't try to build the Golden Gate bridge.

Have you downloaded the PAL from SUPER. It works with
several compilers. If you just want to scratch out some utilites
in DOS and K&R is sufficient, PCC can be squeezed into a 1 meg
machine:
pcc12c.zip   176K  900102  Personal C compiler. Fully functional, C WARE
on Simtel.

James Scheffler wrote:

> Alrighty, after mucho discussion about the 'perfect' palmtop c-compiler,
>   I can solve the compiler shortage in my own eyes, and
> learn a GREAT deal to boot, by writing a C-Compiler, optimized in size for
> the 200LX.  Never written a compiler before, so any advice, caveats, etc,
> would be appreciated.

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> >
> > Alrighty, after mucho discussion about the 'perfect' palmtop c-compiler,
> > and after noting that GETTING one is exceedingly difficult to do on a
> > simple jog around the web (we should all be able to just GET it, right?
> > there should be something on SUPER!)  well, it occurrs to me I can do two
> > things at once.  I can solve the compiler shortage in my own eyes, and

There's no compiler shortage. PowerC, an ANSI C compiler, sells for $20
from Mix Software and includes an excellent manual. Runs on 200LX just
fine from the command line. GET it at http://www.mixsoftware.com

- Longden

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Folks,
For various reasons I have decided not to use agenda.
so I have some books for trade.

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 User's guide (7x9) paperbound, index, glossary,
error messages, so forth

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Working with Macros" (7x9) slim, paperbound,
index,

Offical Lotus Agenda 2.0 "Working with Definition files" (7x9) slim,
paperbound, index,


Aftermarket, surplus public library book, "Agenda 2 made Easy" by
Mary Campbell
----------------------------
What I'm looking for in trade is a HP200lx manual, or a copy of stacker
for OS/2

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Franklin Eekhout wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> The modem is the Nokia DTP-2 card, I read somewhere that the Hornet chip
> supports 2 pcmcia slots. Someone I know opened it and said that he
> recognized the card. In the built-in apps one just selects phone as
> interface. For other apps, like Goin' Postal or Nettamer, one has to run
> SERCTL /P in dos first. After closing you should run SERCTL /O to turn off
> the serial port to save batteries. The port is com1 I think, look in the
> manual, serctl is listed in the index. I just switched to a 200LX because it
> is less bulkier...
>
> Franklin
>
The 700lx manual says :
SERCTL {/O , /W , /I , /P}
Control power to the infrared (IR) and wired serial sports. This command
is for use when running programs from the DOS prompt. The built-in
applications handle powering the ports automatically.

/O
Turns off power to the active port. Turning off the I/O ports while in
the MS-DOS command processor results in significant power savings, thus
extending battery life.

/W
Powers up and activates the wired serial port. Does not affect the baud
setting.

/I
Powers up and actiivates the infrared (IR) port. Changes the baud
setting to 2400.

/P
Powers up and activates the phone port.

Hopes these information help.

Cheers.

jien hung

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 09:10:30 -0700
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Subject:      Fry's locations RE: Interesting stores in SFO area?
Comments: To: Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR

Here are some Fry's near SFO, plus a URL listing these and more locations.

Campbell 600 E. Hamilton Avenue Campbell, CA 95008 (408) 364-3700
Fremont 440 Mission Court Fremont, CA 94539 (510) 770-3797
Palo Alto 340 Portage Avenue Palo Alto, CA 94306 (415) 496-6000
San Jose  550 E. Brokaw Road San Jose, CA 95112 (408) 487-1000
Sunnyvale  1177 Kern Avenue Sunnyvale, CA 94086 (408) 733-1770

 <http://www.8x8.com/docs/contact/Fryslisting.html>
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Date:         Fri, 29 May 1998 00:14:06 -0700
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Go to the FTP site, it has driver for DOS, Win3, Win95 etc.
http://www.extendedsystems.com/support/ftp/infrared.html

Cheers.

Jien Hung

Longden C. Loo wrote:
>
> yOn Thu, 28 May 1998, Mitchell Hamm wrote:
>
> > > Anybody do this? I can't track down the JetEye PC/Printer IR Interface
> > > I read about awhile back.
> >
> > The company is Extended Systems (http://www.extendedsystems.com) and
> > their IR printer interface will work with IR printer drivers on SUPER.
> > You will be able to print from all the built-in apps except for Lotus.
> > It won't work from DOS apps.
>
> I have one of those (Jeteye 9510). It's been awhile since I used it, but I
> seem to recall being able to print off the native apps without much fuss.
> DOS and Lotus required loading a provided driver in the config.sys:
>         device=a:\utl\jeteye.sys lpt1
>
> and that allowed printing from DOS apps and Lotus.
>
> - Longden
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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 11:28:22 -0500
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              Kevin Calman <codex@EARTHLING.NET>
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Stan Hall wrote:
> I am still looking for some working or dead HPLXs.  In particular I am
> looking for a dead 100lx (or even a empty case for one) and a working
> 95lx.
Stan,
        I have a HP100LX/1mb (no upgrades) which suffered complete failure of the
right hinge after a chronic hinge crack problem. I have since replaced it with
an HP200LX (much nicer!), but I hadn't given up on the 100lx just yet,
planning to repair it. I could be pursuaded to part with it for $150, and I'll
include complete documentation, a complete f1021a ConnPack, and an IBM brand
1MB-RAM/2MB-Flash card.
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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 09:41:23 -0700
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With the new found popularity of the JINIfont, I decided to give it a try. I've been
using Andrew2 font and like it.

This is what I did:

(1) In the autoexec.bat file, I commented out the line

C:\fonts\andrew2

and replaced it with

C:\fonts\jinifont

(2) Rebooted the machine.

When the machine came back, I didn't notice anything different. So I shelled to DOS and
did

mem /c

This is the output related to the font:

Name    Size in Decimal Size in Hex
----    --------------- ------------
ANDREW2  6720  (  6.6K)  1A40


I cannot figure out why it still shows Andrew2 - it isn't found anywhere in my
autoexec.bat file (I even took the C:\fonts\andrew2 line out).

Any idea? Thanks.


Ron

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 10:13:59 -0700
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              200 lx parts
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I remember reading a post just a few days ago of somebody liking a
100/200Lx non-working. Well here it is..........

Good Luck|

--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "John Papaioannou" <johnp@bart.nl>
Subject: FS: ThinFax 1414/8MB, PC connection kit, AC adapter, 200 lx =
parts
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 21:13:44 +0200

for sale: ThinFax 1414/8MB, PC connection kit, and AC adapter

Also, HP200LX /2MB with NON-working motherboard, everything else works =
fine

Offers?

John P

john_papaioannou@rocketmail.com
+31 23 5639278 (Holland)



--- end of forwarded message ---




Regards,

Qman...


HP 100LX Running Windows 3.0 & POST/LX 2.0.
The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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For anybody looking for a 200LX for parts, here's another one.

Good Luck!

Live Wire.......

--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "Li Sheng" <bps@clipper.net>
Subject: Re: hp200 working motherboard
Date: 27 May 1998 17:10:36 +0500

Hi John,
I was having trouble with my HP200LX screen cutting out every once in a
while (once a week under heavy use). I can't live with out my HP200LX, so =
I
purchased another one to replace it. But now I have a spare HP200LX with
screen problem just sitting around. I would like to get $100 US Dollars =
for
it, are you interested?

Li

John Papaioannou <johnp@bart.nl> wrote in article
<6khp18$3qs$1@news2.xs4all.nl>...
> My hp200 motherboard is fried, but otherwise ok? Anyone selling good
> motherboard, please let me know at john_papaioannou@rocketmail.com
>
> John
> +31 23 5639278 (Holland)
>
>
>

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Regards,

Qman...


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The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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>Compiling is nothing, just packing object code into an executeable. The

Compiling is EVERYTHING. From source to executable code. I see you've got
no experience in compiler writing. Please excuse me, I'll not go on with
this discussion.

>hard part is the interpritation. What I would do is go get the source

(interpretation, I though you wanted a compiler, not an interpreter)

>for the GNU C compiler, and look at it as a model.

Good luck. At least you'll learn the kind of job you're dealing with. The
COMPRESSED sources of the GNU C compiler are about 4.5MB.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 13:13:22 -0700
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The following measurements were taken while running off of an AC adapter.
Your mileage may vary.  My 200LX is a 32MB double-speed model, with the
serial port off and charging enabled while these measurements were taken.
(Except for the one that says "Idle without charging.")  My meter only has
10ma resolution (at the level required by the 200LX) so the following are
rounded off.


Idle while charging: 150ma
Idle without charging: 40-50 ma


(figures below are what the actions added to the regular current draw)

Simple Tech 33.6 modem
======================
Insert: 140-160 ma
Idle: 0-20ma (fluctuated)
Active: 160 ma

Pretec 32MB Flash Card
======================
Insert: 50ma
Idle: 10ma
Read: 40ma
Write w/o key held down: 10 ma
Write w/ key held down: 20ma

Microtech 40MB triple-speed flash
=================================
Insert: 40ma
Idle: 0-10 ma
Read: 10-20 ma
Write: 100-120ma

Simple Tech 40MB flash
======================
Insert: 40ma
Idle: 0ma
Read: 0-10ma
Write: 30ma

Allpoints Wireless Modem
========================
Insert: 60ma
Idle: 20ma
Active: 30-40ma

Accton EN2216 Ethernet Card
===========================
Insert: 30ma
Idle without connector (which has all LAN interface circuitry): 30-40ma
Idle w/connector but no LAN connection: 180 ma !!!
Idle w/connector and 10BaseT LAN link: 40ma
Reading from LAN: 40ma
Writing to LAN: 50ma


The highest current draw was noticed with the Accton card inserted, with
the connector plugged in and no LAN cable plugged in.  Oddly, the current
draw went way down when a LAN line was plugged in.  I suspect that,
without the LAN link, it's keeping the coaxial connector active as well as
the RJ45 jack, upping the curent draw significantly.  The EN2216-1
(without the coax connector) should not suffer from this problem.  (I have
the EN2216-2.)

Anybody else want to chip in with their own measurements on similar
equipment?

--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 14:11:53 EDT
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Hi guy

I know what fries are but what is Fry's.
Anything interesting that one should look for it?
Like hard to find toys?
I take it these stores are only on the wast coast?

yor pal al......................

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 11:26:44 -0700
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              Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
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Folks,

The books are gone.

On Thu, 28 May 1998 Agentrapid@aol.com
AKA  Roy Stroud is getting them.

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 12:13:46 -0700
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Comments: To: Hobchi@AOL.COM

Fry's are huge warehouse computer stores with aisles and aisles of hardware
(and some software). People either love them or hate them. They often have
incredible discounts on items (RAM, disks, etc.). They are a great place to
buy components if you are going to build your own computer (motherboard,
processor, etc.). But the salesfolks know little or nothing, and returning
items can be difficult to impossible.

I buy stuff from there reasonably often, but I don't recommend them to
anyone who doesn't already know exactly what they want and how much they
should pay for it.

- Joe

Joseph S. Barrera III
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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 12:35:38 -0700
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On Thu, 28 May 1998, Joe Barrera wrote:

> But the salesfolks know little or nothing,
But they think they do!


> returning items can be difficult to impossible.

The one in Wilsonville Oregon, just outside of Portland has a nice no
questions asked return policy.

> anyone who doesn't already know exactly what they want
I often use the store as a place to browse and get ideas, then go away and
research the specs and price.


> and how much they should pay for it.
YES!, They have been know to have two of the same item on a shelve right
next to each other and have very different prices.

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I'm doing a little program in MS Basic that needs a very large Font set. =
 The height of the characters could be as large 100 pixels.  I've been =
looking for a FON font editor that will work but have not been able to =
locate one.  Do any of you know where I can find one?

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 15:24:42 -0500
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              Carpman <ctg@GEOCITIES.COM>
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Ignacio Garc=EDa P=E9rez wrote:
>=20
> >Compiling is nothing, just packing object code into an executeable. Th=
e
>=20
> Compiling is EVERYTHING. From source to executable code. I see you've g=
ot
> no experience in compiler writing. Please excuse me, I'll not go on wit=
h
> this discussion.
>=20
> >hard part is the interpritation. What I would do is go get the source
>=20
> (interpretation, I though you wanted a compiler, not an interpreter)
>=20
> >for the GNU C compiler, and look at it as a model.
>=20
> Good luck. At least you'll learn the kind of job you're dealing with. T=
he
> COMPRESSED sources of the GNU C compiler are about 4.5MB.
>=20
> Regards. Nacho.
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Oh friggin greif!!!!!!!!

WHY do so many people take this kinda stuff personally!! Im just stating
the facts. And BTW: you have to interprate a peice of code BEFORE you
compile it!!!

ctg@geocities.com

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 20:42:00 GMT
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I'm still trying to get LXTCP going, but the big hurdle I can't seem to =
get
past is the configuration for PPPD. Whatever I put in the pppd.cfg file, =
I
get the same error when I run pppd:

bad local IP 255.255.255.255
PPP link is down, driver not installed.

Anyone got any ideas about this one? This is what's held me up since I
first complained a couple of weeks ago.

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.nu>
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 13:47:35 -0700
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              Dan Carrington <dc_grafx@MICROWORKS.NET>
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You can also set up an event in the scheduler to run the random pix
topcard program at night so you have a different one every day.  I love
it myself!

Dan Carrington



David Sargeant wrote:

> I've done some scanning to make topcards for the LX.  I have a series
> of
> Dilbert strip topcards; the average file size is between 9-11K.  You
> just
> need to make sure it's a 640x200, 1-bit PCX file.  And invert it
> before
> you save it, as otherwise they will come out inverted on the screen.
>
> The topcard switching program that's available is of great use if you
> have
> a bunch of topcards that you'd like to switch randomly.  I get a new
> Dilbert cartoon every time I reboot.  :)
>
> --
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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 16:18:55 -0500
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On Thu, 28 May 1998, Neil Tungate wrote:

> bad local IP 255.255.255.255
> PPP link is down, driver not installed.

That looks like a netmask IP. I got LXNNTP working last night with the
packet driver supplied with Goin' Postal and it is kinda of a chore to get
set up. I plan on writing about my experiences with it here on the list in
the near future. As I said before I used the packet driver supplied with
GP, but in the pre-GP days I used EPPPD with Pegasus mail on the plamtop.
It seemed to wrok quite well. I can't comment on LXPOP, 'cause I'm not
going to even try it. But from what I've seen with the newsreader I'm sure
it's a nice setup. I'll write about my experiences with LXNNTP later.

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 21:52:47 GMT
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On Thu, 28 May 1998 16:18:55 -0500, Jeff wrote:

>That looks like a netmask IP.=20

That's what I thought, but I can't see where it's coming from.

>I got LXNNTP working last night with the
>packet driver supplied with Goin' Postal and it is kinda of a chore to =
get
>set up. I plan on writing about my experiences with it here on the list =
in
>the near future. As I said before I used the packet driver supplied with
>GP, but in the pre-GP days I used EPPPD with Pegasus mail on the =
plamtop.
>It seemed to wrok quite well. I can't comment on LXPOP, 'cause I'm not
>going to even try it. But from what I've seen with the newsreader I'm =
sure
>it's a nice setup. I'll write about my experiences with LXNNTP later.

I'll be interested to read that Jeff.

--=20
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To all;

Six internet books that will cost more to ship than any money you'd give me.
Two Sysgen desktop removable disk drives with 1/2 discs, 44MB ea.
One PCMCIA disk drive for desktop.
One light pen.
Thinfax 14.4 modem.
500 book film library, some films too (for film/buff scholar).

Will trade but want to sell the film library in toto.

yor pal al......................................

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I am trying to compile the pal libraires using pm and for
some reason am getting a fatal error with a -1 returned for
an error code. I am using Borland C++ Version 3 for dos. Is
there anyone that has done this that knows what I'm doing
wrong? I made pal a subdirectory of C and pointed to it in
the pm.cfg file. Help.

John

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 20:26:59 -0400
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For those of you patiently waiting to rip apart a PilotModem, John McDonald's
new article just went up on Palmtop.Net. He did a great job as I'm sure you
will agree:

http://www.palmtop.net/~jorgen/hacking.htm

Thanks John!

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I have tried a search on the net to find these guys but failed

Anybody got a email or web contact?

Does the double speed 31 MHZ upgrade alter AA battery life much?

Cheers

Alex Baker

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Subject:      wireless email and the LX?

     Is anyone here using any of the wireless email solutions with
their Palmtop?  I'm mainly interested in two-way wireless email.

Any recommendations?  TIA.

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 * 1st 2.00 #9525 * Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard drive?

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 21:18:35 -0400
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At 10:20 PM 5/26/98 EDT, you wrote:
>Re the 2MB F: drive, I only have about 250K there.
>Where's the (rest of  the) beef?
>
>Is it used else where for something else?
>I just got mine back today so I'm still exploring and fixing my BATchs.
>Am I missing something?
>Yes I had 2MB to start with.

The RAM in the palmtop is used for some different stuff.  First off, you've
got a 640K chunk taken out for main memory.  That brings you down to about
1.3M.  Then, miscellaneous junk preloaded onto the ramdisk by the palmtop
takes another chunk out, bringing you down to about .9M or 1M.  With
everything else added on by yourself and Mack, it doesn't surprise me that
you only have 250K left.  In short, don't worry about it.  You've already
got 32 more megs to play with.  ;)

My model, also with 2M onboard, has about 250K free too since I use a flash
as my main storage device, leaving most of the C: drive empty.  I wish I
was one of you lucky guys with the ungodly large (and ungodly expensive)
32M drives ... <g>


Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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Was the 2MB you had to begin with all on the motherboard?

It's quite possible that 1MB of it was a daughtercard, which the 32MB
daughterboard replaced, leaving you only 1MB of F: drive.  Subtracting
640K from that leaves you about 350K or so...

That was my situation.

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Thu, 28 May 1998 21:24:16 -0500 (EST)


Hi Group-

This came up when I was having some trouble getting Tony Hutchins
terrific Posth program working.  I got an "Out of environment space"
error every time.  Tried expanding the environment space with the
shell=3D command.  Still no luck.  Removing some unneeded directories
from the path line in autoexec.bat gave enough space.  But - there was
still the question of why didn't expanding the e-space from 256 to 4096
give enough room..?  After doing some checking with a utility called
"mapmem" I found that when shelling to DOS from another DOS program,
the secondary command.com call that opens the new shell defaults back
to 256 bytes of e-space, regardless of the setting in autoexec.bat.
(unless more can be requested by the first prog).

Here's what I got with mapmem:

Shelling to DOS from StereoShell:

MAPMEM 3.5, Copyright 1993 TurboPower Software

Mcb  Psp  Hdl   Size Name           Command Line        Hooked Vectors
---- ---- --- ------ -------------- ------------------- ------------------=
-----
0000           1,024 vectors
0040             256 BIOS data
0050             512 DOS data
0070           4,480 sys data
0188           5,136 sys code
02C9          71,008 cfg info
                     9,296 device=3DDRIVE100
                    44,432 device=3DJAM
                     2,688 files
                       272 fcbs
                    10,656 buffers
                       640 lastdrive
                     3,024 stacks
1420 1421      2,416 COMMAND        a:\fatso.dat        2E
14B8 1421         64 data(COMMAND)
14BD 1421        512 env(COMMAND)
14DE 16D1        208 env(ABCTSR)
14EC 14ED      6,880 SANSERIF
169B 169C        352 CLICK                              09
16B2 16B3        464 MODE           n/a                 14 17
16D0 16D1      3,776 ABCTSR                             08 64
17BD 17CC        208 env(MARK)
17CB 17CC      1,392 MARK
1823 1B26        208 env(DM)
1831 1832     12,080 BUDDYDOS       n/a                 06 10 15 16 1C 21 =
2F
                                                        F9
1B25 1B26        512 DM             ~ a:\fatso.dat
1B46 1B55        208 data(HDM)
1B54 1B55      2,416 HDM                                00
1BEC 1B55        256 env(HDM)
1BFD 1C0C        208 env(STS)
1C0B 1C0C     56,208 STS                                F6
29C5 1C0C        576 data(STS)
29EA 29F9        208 data(COMMAND)
29F8 29F9  1   2,416 COMMAND        /v                  22 23 24
2A90 29F9        256 env(COMMAND)
2AA1 2AB0        208 ---free---
2AAF 2AB0    476,192 ---free---
9EF2 1B55        208 data(HDM)
             651,264 ---total--

Shelling from HDM using command /e:512 is identical up thru 1BEC but
notice the difference in the env(COMMAND) lines.

1BFD 1C0B        192 data(command)
1C0A 1C0B  1   2,416 command        /v                  22 23 24
1CA2 1C0B        512 env(command)
1CC3 1CD2        208 ---free---
1CD1 1CD2    532,992 ---free---
9EF2 1B55        208 data(HDM)
             651,264 ---total--


Looks like a "gotcha" if you try to shell to DOS from many DOS progs if
the secondary prog needs a lot of e-space...

-PR
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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 22:21:05 -0400
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I am interested.  My only question is 5.1 for dos or windows and where
should I send the check.
-----Original Message-----
From: James P. Grenert <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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Date: Monday, May 18, 1998 5:22 PM
Subject: A couple of cheap/free things...


>Hi, palmtoppers.
>I am purging some computer stuff.  Let me know if you're interested.
>Word Perfect 5.1, with box, manuals, 3.5" disks.  $10 plus shipping
>(pretty heavy, I would say).
>dBase II/III/III+ Advanced Programmers Guide.  Free for $3 shipping.
>
>Cheers.
>J. P. Grenert
>grenert@mayo.edu
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Writing a compiler isn't rocket science if the language is simple
enough.  The problem is that C and C++ are more complex than they look.

If there really is a $20 ANSI C compiler that runs on the 200lx, then
you're wasting your time, if you only want to write C for the 200lx.

If you want to learn about compilers, define a very simple language and
see what it takes to go through the entire process.  I did a MS project
on a language I invented (that dates me) in 3 months.

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Is it possile to run the 200LX from a cigarette lighter in a car? Is so,
would a straight wire connected straight to the DJ jack work or would I need
to regulate it in some manner?

Jeff


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I used my 200LX with a BayPac modem for packet radio before I had the T2T
speed upgrade performed. In order for everything to work properly it is
important that the TNC emulation software not encounter any TSR's. This
isn't a problem as I can create an alternate autoexec.bat file and reboot to
make sure there are no TSR's active, but in order to have the display behave
properly I need to use the speed.sys in my config.sys file. Will this create
a problem with the BayCom software? Are there any hams on the list with
speed upgraded 200LX's that can comment on this particular situation?

73
Jeff


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I have several DOS utilities that I run which are similar and differ only
in features and memory requirements.

I'd like to have a single batch file that invokes the more featured pgm
first, and if there's not enough memory, invoke the smaller one.

Anyone know of a way to do this SIMPLY? Seems like I've seen this topic
before eons ago. A simple pgm that accepts a target memory size and
sets the DOS errorlevel according to pass/nopass conditions would
be adequate. Anyone got one of these handy? If not, does anyone know
the best way to determine the amount of available DOS memory from within
a C pgm?

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On Fri, May 29, 1998 at 10:57:38AM +1000, Alex Baker wrote:
> I have tried a search on the net to find these guys but failed
>
> Anybody got a email or web contact?
----------------------------------------------------
Times2 Tech  (Ph. 205-620-1408/Fax 205-620-5205)
email: mack@times2tech.com
  web: http://www.times2tech.com/

The hardest thing to open is a closed mind...
----------------------------------------------------

>
> Does the double speed 31 MHZ upgrade alter AA battery life much?

Not that I have noticed.

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It is not 31MHz, but 15.836775MHz.

Regards,
Yujin

> Does the double speed 31 MHZ upgrade alter AA battery life much?
>
> Cheers
>
> Alex Baker
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You would need to put a voltage regulator in the circuit.

At 09:04 PM 5/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Is it possile to run the 200LX from a cigarette lighter in a car? Is so,
>would a straight wire connected straight to the DJ jack work or would I need
>to regulate it in some manner?
>
>Jeff
>
>
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Alrighty, folks, here's a second message:
        I'm not doing this for YOU.  I'm not altruitic or idealistic or naive.  I
am fully aware of the daunting task of parsing, lexing, interpreting,
compiling, etc.
        I am doing this for ME.  I remember c compilers in high school that would
fit completely onto a 5 1/4 floppy, single density.  So it's possible.
Also, I want to LEARN.  I've found that my particular learning style is
such that I shine best when placed before the task.
        Lemme just say it again:  I'm not doing this 'on my lunchbreak'.  I'm not
doing this for you (though if I get it to be something worth releasing,
it'll be freeware.)
        The idea is mostly that I need something to DO.  and this is a good one.
Naysayers are of course welcome to continue being such, and while the
spirit of your caveats is understood as gentle warning, I'm a stubborn
cuss. ;)  So you may not expect  "James' C" to be on SUPER anytime soon,
but you can sure as heck know I'll try.
        Excelsior!

        James

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My last message really came out wrong. I apologize to everyone whose
offered advice and information, and those of you who have pointed me in the
direction of compilers to use.  I will, still try to write one of my own,
however.

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Date:         Fri, 29 May 1998 00:58:10 -0400
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At 09:04 PM 5/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Is it possile to run the 200LX from a cigarette lighter in a car? Is so,
>would a straight wire connected straight to the DJ jack work or would I need
>to regulate it in some manner?

You know, I'm no electrical engineer, but I think it could probably work
without any extra circuitry.  The wide variation of acceptable input
voltages for the 200 means the palmtop is fairly easy to please, and
fortunately for us the range is right around the range of a car battery (9
to 15 volts, if I remember right.)  I'm told amperage is of no concern
because the power supply (at least in the palmtop) only takes what it needs.

I don't know for sure, but it seems to me that the electricity found
running around in my car is fairly clean (i.e., not noisy).  For the
palmtop's sake, it might be wise to add a smoothing capacitor, but ...

Anyway, I think I'm brave enough to go down to RadioSack and just make
myself one.  Y'all probably could too.  Remember .... POLARITY!

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 21:39:41 -0700
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I was wondering, about the modem speeds that are attainable on the HPLX.
I use a 14.4k PCMCIA modem & have the computer-to-modem speed set to
38400. My machine is single speed. I know that others use 28.8k, 33.6k,
and maybe even 56k modems. Since one must multiply by something like 5
the modem speed to get a more true data speed, is getting anything above
14.4k overkill? It seems to me that the speed that a HPLX can get the
data probably is the bottle neck; a double speed making a serious
difference, of course.

All this is guessing on my part. I have no experience with anything above
my 14.4k. Anybody that has any evidence to the contrary, let me know. Is
moving up from 14.4k desirable? Is double speeding my HPLX a necessary
first move to doing that (not that I shouldn't do it anyway)?

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 22:12:19 -0700
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Folks,

I was at Dr. Telasha's office Wednesday. He has a 95lx.  Anyways
he has a "95 Station" on his desk.
It is a little docking staion for the Palmtop. Has both power supply and
serial connection and a little shelve to set the palmtop on.

Does anyone know of a like device for the 200lx?  I have an AC adapter and
a lx to pc cable but the little docking station is much nicer.

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 22:16:13 -0700
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Be very cautious about running the palmtop directly from the cigarette
lighter adapter. The innards of the palmtop are potentially at positive
ground. If you connect anything to the serial port and it shorts to ground,
I am afraid the palmtop would go up in a bust of smoke.

Karl

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Date:         Fri, 29 May 1998 01:31:04 -0400
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Unless you're talking about that program for scanning from Epson Scanners
directly into the 200LX, you should pull down a copy of Paint Shop Pro
(version 5.1 I think now), which is non-expiring shareware.

1) Scan the images on your desktop at about 200-300dpi in gray-scale mode.

2) Then resample (better than resize, which just drops pixels) so that the
vertical height is =<200 pixels and the horizontal height is =<640 pixels.

3) Sharpen it if you want, and consider altering brightness/contrast at
this step.

4) Finally, convert the image to 1 bit per pixel (black and white--not
grayscale!) using the Floyd-Sternberg Error Diffusion method, which does
the best job of representing shades with evenly distributed dots.  Try
changing to/from weighted pallet option if the image has too low/high
contrast, respectively.

5) Finally, as mentioned elsewhere on the list, invert the image, and save
as PCX version 5.

    You may want to try saving as a BMP also if you're using Lxpic to view
since there is often little or no space saved by the pcx format, and the
BMP is faster to display (slightly...).
Happy imaging!
Jay

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I have a 100LX PrintStation.  It's pretty cool, though I haven't tried
using the serial-to-parallel in it yet.  It's only stupid design is
a clamp that holds the left side by the PCMCIA slot.  You can't latch
it with a card in!

> Folks,
>
> I was at Dr. Telasha's office Wednesday. He has a 95lx.  Anyways
> he has a "95 Station" on his desk.
> It is a little docking staion for the Palmtop. Has both power supply and
> serial connection and a little shelve to set the palmtop on.
>
> Does anyone know of a like device for the 200lx?  I have an AC adapter and
> a lx to pc cable but the little docking station is much nicer.
>
> Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Hello,

I have heard about Sparcom's docking station for
100LX/200LX, but I don't know anything about it.

I want to get what you are looking for, too.

Regards,
Yujin

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> Folks,
>
> I was at Dr. Telasha's office Wednesday. He has a 95lx.  Anyways
> he has a "95 Station" on his desk.
> It is a little docking staion for the Palmtop. Has both power supply and
> serial connection and a little shelve to set the palmtop on.
>
> Does anyone know of a like device for the 200lx?  I have an AC adapter
and
> a lx to pc cable but the little docking station is much nicer.
>
> Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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> Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
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I don't know how clean I'd expect it to be with inductive loads like
power door locks, power windows, starter motor, and horn.  Horns are
especially nasty (it you're ever curious, grab the lead and have someone
honk the thing - ouch!)

> At 09:04 PM 5/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
> I don't know for sure, but it seems to me that the electricity found
> running around in my car is fairly clean (i.e., not noisy).  For the
> palmtop's sake, it might be wise to add a smoothing capacitor, but ...

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An idea:

Either you have an A: drive and you have edited the file on the C:drive, or you
don't have config.sys any more on your C: drive - the hp will look for the first
drive where it can find config.sys and run the autoexec from there.  (Unless you
have 'pressed ALT' to reconfigure your start up options)

Jez

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Author:  Ron\.Zhang at SMTP/dd.RFC-822=Ron\.Zhang@Eng\.Sun\.COM
Date:    28/05/98 18:41


With the new found popularity of the JINIfont, I decided to give it a try. I've
en
using Andrew2 font and like it.

This is what I did:

(1) In the autoexec.bat file, I commented out the line

C:\fonts\andrew2

and replaced it with

C:\fonts\jinifont

(2) Rebooted the machine.

When the machine came back, I didn't notice anything different. So I shelled to
S and
did

mem /c

This is the output related to the font:

Name    Size in Decimal Size in Hex
----    --------------- ------------
ANDREW2  6720  (  6.6K)  1A40


I cannot figure out why it still shows Andrew2 - it isn't found anywhere in my
autoexec.bat file (I even took the C:\fonts\andrew2 line out).

Any idea? Thanks.


Ron

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Date:         Thu, 28 May 1998 23:13:24 -0700
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Hello Alex:

> I have tried a search on the net to find these guys but failed

Try without spaces: Times2Tech

> Does the double speed 31 MHZ upgrade alter AA battery life much?

I bet it would, but I think the double speed machines we have
are running at 16MHz, not 31MHz. Hey, I'd like to go to 50MHz,
if you ask me :-) ...

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Greetings,

    Radio Shack sells a high current DC to DC adapter, #270-1562 for
$16.99.  I use one with my Optoelectronics Scout frequency counter, which is
much more sensitive to current and voltage spikes than the 200LX (I've blown
the front end out of the Scout with a direct fused connection, and never had
a similar problem with the LX series).  No problems at all, and
Optoelectronics recommends the RS adapter.  I would have no problem running
my 200LX with it and probably will, after I get around to hooking it up to
my GPS.  If you have lots of extra cash, The One Stop Palmtop Shop carries
an industrial grade DC to DC adapter with an aluminum case.

Colin

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At 23:13 28/05/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Hello Alex:
>
>> I have tried a search on the net to find these guys but failed
>
>Try without spaces: Times2Tech
>
>> Does the double speed 31 MHZ upgrade alter AA battery life much?
>
>I bet it would, but I think the double speed machines we have
>are running at 16MHz, not 31MHz. Hey, I'd like to go to 50MHz,
>if you ask me :-) ...

According to the developer's manual, The 1X clock is provided by a
15.836775 MHz crystal, whose frequency is divided by two before it's feeded
to the CPU. Thus, a single-speed machine CPU is running at 7.918387 MHz.

The case of 2X machines is evident: the crystal is 31.67355 MHz and the CPU
runs at 15.836775 MHz.

Regards. Nacho.

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-----Message d'origine-----
De : Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
=C0 : HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date : vendredi 29 mai 1998 08:10
Objet : 95 station


|Folks,
|
|I was at Dr. Telasha's office Wednesday. He has a 95lx.  Anyways
|he has a "95 Station" on his desk.
|It is a little docking staion for the Palmtop. Has both power supply and
|serial connection and a little shelve to set the palmtop on.
|
|Does anyone know of a like device for the 200lx?  I have an AC adapter a=
nd
|a lx to pc cable but the little docking station is much nicer.
|
|Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
|PGP Key fingerprint =3D  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8=
D
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That was a Sparcom product. Sparcom is now Da Vinci technologies. The 95
docking station is no longer available as far as I know, but the sell the
empty box with connectors and you can put what you want in it (power supp=
ly,
modem...). There is a nice amount of room inside considerring today's
technology. You just have to ask them if they accept to sell that stuff o=
ne
by one (I had a proposal last year for 100 pieces).
Hope this helps.
E-mail me directly if you need more details.
Sincerely,
Pierre.

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** Nur Empf-nger **

Good for You

Fil


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Hi Jeff!

>Are there any hams on the list who use the 200LX and a Yaesu FT50 along with
>the BayPac modem for packet? If so, did you buy the speaker/mic cable or did
>you make your own? If you made your own or know how to make one please
>contact me. I've used a BayPac with an Icom radio and the 200LX, but it had
>the standard dual speaker/mic, not the single plug like the Yaesu.

I'm using a BayPac- like modem (here in Germany called PC-COM). It comes with
a serial cable where I soldered two plugs (mic/sp). It's just the same
combination like yours with your Icom radio. For me it is the better solution
because I can use the same cable with different rigs. You can get an adaptor
from Yaesu (either FT50R or VX1R). If you want your special cable, just buy a
cloning cable.

vy 73 de Andreas, DC3AFA

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Date:         Fri, 29 May 1998 01:55:30 -0700
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Hey there everyone...
Well, Kelly and I are still touring.  We're currently in England, bound
for Edinburgh, Scotland tomorrow.  Just wanted to let everyone know
about some of the palmtop-related things I've discovered:

1.  Try to get into an airline lounge, like American Airline's
"Admiral"s Club".  We were delayed 12 hours! at Heathroe en route to
Dublin, and I threw a fit, so they let us use the lounge.  Nice.  Even
has modem-friendly phones.

2.  The HP American charger/AC supply works great in Ireland and the
UK, you only need the necessary plug adapter.

3.  McGowans of Phibsboro, In Dublin, is a pub that's got great
atmosphere (unless it's crowded), and has a nice calm restaurant
upstairs.  I had the best steak in Ireland there... Also, John McGowan,
the pub owner, is an HP OmniGo 700LX user.  (He was featured in a past
Palmtop Paper).  A nice guy, great hospitality, great food, and great
Guinness!  Highly recommended.  John also loves to gab about the
palmtops, so if you're in the neighborhood, stop by, have a steak, and
bring your palmtop!

4.  Internet access is tough.  I had zero problems from Heathroe (in
the airline lounge).  I didn't use the special dataphone, I used a
regular payphone with my acoustic coupler, and used CIS as my ISP.
That was the only successful connection to date.  I'm going through
email withdrawl, it's been 6 days since I sent/received mail!  I'm also
pissing off my wife, because I look longingly at each pay phone and
mutter, "I wonder if that would work..."  Hopefully I'll have better
luck in Edinburgh tomorrow...

5.  Backup, backup, backup!  I lost my c: drive once so far on the
trip.  I'd be dead unless I had my flash card backup handy.

Last week, I had sent a mail message to the list saying I'd have a web
page on the trip.  Well, the page is written daily, but I can't update
it without an internet connection.  Oops...

That's it.  Happy palmtopping, everyone!

Bill (from a Bed & Breakfast in Chester, England)

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Date:         Fri, 29 May 1998 10:11:02 +0100
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This was drawn to my attention by one of my colleagues.  Not sure if it has
already been round this group, but (a) it looks very interesting and (b)
they are looking for help to port it to other DOS PDAs, specifically
including HP.

http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.kaechele/zipdriv3.htm

William D.Ll.Brown

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Hi, folks:

I just finished a DOS port of the LXTOOLS. I never used filer before for
data transfers, and it seems to have sime troubles in speeds above 38400.
Is this normal ?... I ask this because it could be a problem of the port.

Regards. Nacho.

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Ignacio Garc=EDa P=E9rez wrote:
>=20
> Hi, folks:
>=20
> I just finished a DOS port of the LXTOOLS. I never used filer before fo=
r
> data transfers, and it seems to have sime troubles in speeds above 3840=
0.
> Is this normal ?... I ask this because it could be a problem of the por=
t.
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This is totaly normal. Its worse on the 100lx, mine balks at anything
over 9600 baud :) ACK!

ctg@geocities.com

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Date:         Fri, 29 May 1998 09:07:21 -0400
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> > Is this normal ?... I ask this because it could be a problem of the port.
>
> This is totaly normal. Its worse on the 100lx, mine balks at anything
> over 9600 baud :) ACK!

Not so normal for me. I get rock solid 57600 wired connects with LXTOOLS under
Linux. With infrared at 115200, they are a little more dicey. I have switched
to using the wired connection because it is so good.

Mitch
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Date:         Fri, 29 May 1998 09:18:33 -0400
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> 2) Then resample (better than resize, which just drops pixels) so that the
> vertical height is =<200 pixels and the horizontal height is =<640 pixels.

There's one part missing from this:

You really should start with a 640x240 pixel image and then resize it only in
the height to 200 pixels. This makes it look squashed on a regular computer
screen, but comes out just right on the 200LX screen. Check out topcards.zip
file on SUPER for a full explanation.

Mitch
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Date:         Fri, 29 May 1998 15:48:21 +0200
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David,

 I'm using CIC200 with my EXP Thinfax 1414LXM 8Mb card
without problems.
 But.... the new CIC21 does not work. How come?
 The modem does not answer upon initialization.
 Regards
 Lars

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Item Subject: Car Adapter?
Jeff

Possible, but risky.  The battery voltage range can go rather close to the
palmtop limits and that's if you have a good battery with clean contact
posts etc.  (The battery acts to hold down the alternator output voltage.)
If you have a bad battery (or contact posts that look like furballs) the
alternator output voltage could rise to dangerous levels (probably popping
light bulbs too, but they're cheaper than palmtops).

You can also get HUGE noisy spikes on the line, especially when starting.

So the answer is, if you value your palmtop, to regulate the output.

If you buy one of those things that plug into the lighter socket (sorry,
they're called 'accessory outlets' in this non-smoking, politically correct
world) intended for walkmans etc, with a little switch to select the
voltage, aim for 9v.  They're so poorly regulated (if at all) that if you
measure the 9v output off-load it'll probably be nearer 12v.  The palmtop
load is quite a lot less than a walkman (which has a motor etc)...

HTH.  If we see a ad for a melted palmtop we'll know it didn't work too well (I
hereby post a disclaimer!!)

(BTW, still looking for a schematic for the palmtop...)

Jez

(G8JEZ, inactive on the ether for too long to remember)
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Subject: Car Adapter?
Author:  jeffj at SHAR/dd.RFC-822=jeffj@SCOTT\.NET
Date:    29/05/98 04:04


Is it possile to run the 200LX from a cigarette lighter in a car? Is so,
would a straight wire connected straight to the DJ jack work or would I need
to regulate it in some manner?

Jeff


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Date:         Fri, 29 May 1998 10:10:07 EDT
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Ian

Thanks for your answer, sometimes one can miss the obvious.
As for having 32 MB,  if you really use it heavy like, treat yourself.
It is nice.:)

yor pal al.....................

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Date:         Fri, 29 May 1998 07:17:08 -0700
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When using ZIP.COM to backup the contents of my Thinfax 1414 LXM card, when
some files are being copied, I get a rather bizarre error. When a
particular 64KB file is in the process of being copied, for example, the
progress indicator will overrun and tally, say, 84K and then ZIP gives an
error message and quits. In case it's significant, all files with which the
failure occurs are in subdirectories of F:.  This may not be meaningful,
since the number of occurrences isn't large.

Has anyone else had this problem? Did you find a cure or workaround? BTW,
I'm backing up from a 2MB 200LX to a ThinkPad 701C, the latter running a
DOS window under WIN95.

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Batchman (a 7K *.com) has many functions to assist the
batch file writer, including a test of how much memory is
available. Will also test for extended/expanded memory.
Its on Simtel - you can also get it from www.shareware.com
easily by asking for the specific file name from the DOS
collection.


v9n02.zip    53K  89/12/17  PCMag: BATCHMAN


Longden Loo wrote:

> Message-Id: <19980529030601.IXFR5374@12.64.39.193>
> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 03:06:01 +0000
>
> I have several DOS utilities that I run which are similar and differ only
> in features and memory requirements.
>
> I'd like to have a single batch file that invokes the more featured pgm
> first, and if there's not enough memory, invoke the smaller one.
>
> Anyone know of a way to do this SIMPLY? Seems like I've seen this topic
> before eons ago. A simple pgm that accepts a target memory size and
> sets the DOS errorlevel according to pass/nopass conditions would
> be adequate. Anyone got one of these handy? If not, does anyone know
> the best way to determine the amount of available DOS memory from within
> a C pgm?
>
> - Longden
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Date:         Fri, 29 May 1998 10:45:22 -0400
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 > (1) In the autoexec.bat file, I commented out the line
 > C:\fonts\andrew2
 > and replaced it with
 > C:\fonts\jinifont

Do you have a flash card?  You might be booting from A:  but you modified
C:\autoexec.bat.

Try modifying a:\autoexec.bat if this is the case.
If not, and you REALLY rebooted from C:, then I am at a loss too, unless
the jinifont is actually the andrew2 font.


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Date:         Fri, 29 May 1998 10:50:33 -0400
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I have a ibm 40 meg card and the 100lx will not recognize it though it
works fine in other units,does anyone know of a driver to make the 100
recognize the 40 meg ata card
thanks
riley@iglou.com

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Folks,

I can not get the windows version of the appontment book or phonebook to
accept paste from the Windows clipboard.
Is this normal? Or have I messed it up somehow?

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Subject:      Re: LXTOOLS DOS port
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At 09:07 29/05/98 -0400, you wrote:
>> > Is this normal ?... I ask this because it could be a problem of the port.
>>
>> This is totaly normal. Its worse on the 100lx, mine balks at anything
>> over 9600 baud :) ACK!
>
>Not so normal for me. I get rock solid 57600 wired connects with LXTOOLS
under
>Linux. With infrared at 115200, they are a little more dicey. I have switched
>to using the wired connection because it is so good.

I'll experiment little more. My communication library is buffered and
interrupt driven even for transmission, maybe this is messing things up a
little bit, I'll have a closer look to Andreas code. I might change to a
stripped down version of the library too, which is written entirely in
assembler and pretty fast (which, now that I think about it, is unimportant
since LXTOOLS run in the desktop).

I'd like to know how many people might be interested in a DOS port of the
LXTOOLS, because I really don't used them very much and if people is not
interested perhaps it's not worth the trouble...

Regards. Nacho.

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> Batchman (a 7K *.com) has many functions to assist the
> batch file writer, including a test of how much memory is
> available. Will also test for extended/expanded memory.
> Its on Simtel - you can also get it from www.shareware.com
> easily by asking for the specific file name from the DOS
> collection.
>
> v9n02.zip    53K  89/12/17  PCMag: BATCHMAN

Exactly what the doctor ordered. Thanks.

It'll make an excellent companion to the LXSTAT utility which does the
same type of thing but to functions specific to the LX (ie charging
status, zoom mode, etc).

- Longden

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> I was wondering, about the modem speeds that are attainable on the HPLX.
> I use a 14.4k PCMCIA modem & have the computer-to-modem speed set to
> 38400. My machine is single speed. I know that others use 28.8k, 33.6k,
> and maybe even 56k modems. Since one must multiply by something like 5
> the modem speed to get a more true data speed, is getting anything above
> 14.4k overkill?

Multiply by 5? Hardly!

For compressed files, like downloading a .zip file, you'll do well to get
over 1500 bytes/sec with a 14k4.

For "real-world" text, 2200 bytes/sec would be good. For text designed for
hardware compressibility (e.g., "abcabcabcabcabc...") you could get 3000
bytes/sec or more.

A more relevant question is how quickly the cpu can handle data coming in
from the serial or PCMCIA port.

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Date:         Fri, 29 May 1998 08:44:06 -0700
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Folks,

The mystery with Jinifont is solved and the first prize goes to Jim <
jsaklad@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu > :-)

Thanks to you all for the help. Viva le HPLX-L!:-)


Ron

> I recently changed my PATH statements in AUTOEXEC.BAT, and after several
> reboots found that the old paths were still in effect.
>
> So I did a <CTRL><L Shift><ON>, said "n" to initializing the C: drive,
> then immediately pressed <ALT>. The boot menu appeared, and I typed "2",
> for "Boot from C: and run startup files"
>
> After that, the new changes in AUTOEXEC.BAT were in effect.
>
> Why the normal <CTRL><ALT><DEL> or <CTRL><L Shift><ON> do NOT re-run the
> AUTOEXEC.BAT is beyond me, but that is apparently what has also bitten
> you.
>
> --

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I think you're running DOS under windows if you're using the basic HP
connectivity pack that I am.  DOS don't know 'nothing 'bout no
clipboard.  Same thing's true for any DOS app on windows, as far as I
know.

Please enlighten me, if this can be overcome.
--
Jim Krist                                        jtkrist@clark.net
Anne Arundel Community College    http://www.clark.net/pub/jtkrist
101 College Parkway                           410 541 2524 (voice)
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Hey James

Like your attitude, keep me abreast of the happenings.
Certainly its do-able, abet difiicult, but you you may be
one of those guys that get going when the going gets tough.
Go for it boy.

yor pal al....................................

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Hey guy

don't they already got one of those gadgets
around somewhere?

yor pal al.......................

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Hey guy,

I think there is one of those gadgets around
for the LX100/200.  Its called the  connectivity
pack and cost about $120 odd bucks.
Should be in the Palm To Paper.

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Ignacio Garc=EDa P=E9rez wrote:
>=20
> Hi, folks:
>=20
> I just finished a DOS port of the LXTOOLS. I never used filer before fo=
r
> data transfers, and it seems to have sime troubles in speeds above 3840=
0.
> Is this normal ?... I ask this because it could be a problem of the por=
t.

On my linux system, I use lxtools at 19200, anything else is pointless.=20
Of course my linux box is a 486SX2/50 and is busy all of the time
running my mailing list server, X, and all sort of other tasks, so when
it doesn't seem to have oomph, I really don't ask any questions.

BTW, I would be interested in your port of lxtools to DOS.  I love the
command line.

Stan

--=20
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> Ignacio Garc=EDa P=E9rez wrote:
> Of course my linux box is a 486SX2/50 and is busy all of the time
> running my mailing list server, X, and all sort of other tasks, so when
> it doesn't seem to have oomph, I really don't ask any questions.

Heh heh, my FreeBSD Unix box is a booksize 386-25 with 16mb
of ram.  I use it for smtp/pop, elm and lynx, dns, and hardwired
ppp for Goin' Postal.  I just grin when I hear my friends complain
that their 486-100 crawl with Windoze.. :-)

Oh, prior to getting the speed-demon (daemon? :-) ) listed above,
my primary smtp/pop/dns server was a slightly smaller booksize
286-12 with 4mb of ram running Minix!  I ran a web server on that
box too.

Now if Kees Bot would just compile a tiny Minix kernel for his
new "Minix under DOS" experiment, I might be able to get it
going on my 100lx.. (THAT would be a sight)

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On Fri, 29 May 1998, Jim Krist wrote:

> I think you're running DOS under windows if you're using the basic HP
> connectivity pack that I am.  DOS don't know 'nothing 'bout no
> clipboard.  Same thing's true for any DOS app on windows, as far as I
> know.

nope, this is the Windows 3.1 version of the two apps
Both are windows apps report version  A.01.11
I've tried them under OS/2's windows, under Win95 and real Win3.1 on top
of PC DOS 7



Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Comments: To: Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>

> nope, this is the Windows 3.1 version of the two apps
> Both are windows apps report version  A.01.11
> I've tried them under OS/2's windows, under Win95 and real Win3.1 on top
> of PC DOS 7

I also have Windows 3.1 versions of these apps, from a used OmniBook 530 I
bought. The version reported is A.01.07. I can paste in some fields but not
in others. For example, in the appointments app, I cannot paste a
description for an appointment unless I double click on the time and bring
up a second window for that time that has fields for description, location,
note, etc.

- Joe

Joseph S. Barrera III
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                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Patrick West mailto:pccare@TELEPORT.COM
                Sent:   Friday, May 29, 1998 11:58 AM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        Re: Windows version of appt & phone book

                On Fri, 29 May 1998, Jim Krist wrote:

                > I think you're running DOS under windows if you're using
the basic HP
                > connectivity pack that I am.  DOS don't know 'nothing
'bout no
                > clipboard.  Same thing's true for any DOS app on windows,
as far as I
                > know.

                nope, this is the Windows 3.1 version of the two apps
                Both are windows apps report version  A.01.11
                I've tried them under OS/2's windows, under Win95 and real
Win3.1 on top
                of PC DOS 7



                Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Somehow I missed these files....my kit came only with DOS version that I (sort
of) run under Windows.    Any way or where these files are listed?  Like to
upgrade them.....

Cathy

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200$?

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Date:         Fri, 29 May 1998 15:49:54 -0500
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Two questions.  The critical one is what is the final word on database
type objects on the 200lx?  Is my phonebook limited to 5000 entries and
(more importantly in my case) is my datebook limited to 5000 entries?
If so are there any web pages that address this problem and patches/
workarounds?

The other one is more silly... I figured out the note sequence to
"Well you know my name is simon..." and use it as my alarm.  Is there
a collection of any other songs that people have convolved into 200LX
notation?  I'd love to rotate my alarm songs...

Thanks!
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> From: Ignacio Garcma  Pirez <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: LXTOOLS DOS port
> Date: Friday, May 29, 1998 9:51 AM
>
> I'd like to know how many people might be interested in a DOS port of the
> LXTOOLS, because I really don't used them very much and if people is not
> interested perhaps it's not worth the trouble...

  ME ME!  <jumping up and down waving hand>  :)

  I've wanted a Dos/Windows command-line version of LXTOOLS to automate
various functions since I first heard about LXTOOLS!

  Please let me know where I can get a copy.  Do you plan on releasing it
on the Super site too?

  Thanks,
            ... John S.

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there is a frys in Sunnyvale (southern tip of bay) near it there is a
"weird stuff" store and some others like it. They often have good/great
deals on dos related stuff.

R Bueker

Jez Cunningham wrote:
>
> I'm coming to San Francisco in mid-June (DAC98 conference) and would like
> to hear from any palmtoppers in that area of any stores worth a visit?  Is
> there a Fry's in SFO?  (I won't have time to go south)
> TIA
> jez
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Date:         Fri, 29 May 1998 22:51:28 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Car Adapter?

I use the 12v from my cigarette lighter for an LX100 and 200 twice daily for over an hour each session. I have for years. No problems. I realize that there is a possibility of problems as mentioned by others and wouldn't recommend it to anyone for fear of contributing to a failed life-source, (HP*00LX). However, I thought I would share my success as my two cents to this thread.
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Could anybody tell how to set
the Printer file on HP200LX and the printer
switches so these 2 devices can talk to
each other!

I have tried selecting IBMproprinter on the
200LX, and BJ10 mode on the printer to no avail...

I downloaded a MS Works Dos driver from the canon
site. Will this work? what do I have to do...?

It's moments like these that you realise just
what an advance Win95 plug and play really
was!

Cheers

Alex

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I have a 2x speed 200lx (courtesy of Times2Tech) and am wondering if it is
better to install the included TREMM system or to run MaxDos to maximize my
available DOS memory.

Does anyone have any experience in this regard?

Thanks!

-- Terry

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Sat, 30 May 1998 09:09:58 -0400

0 days & 04:58:54 ago ...
On Sat, 30 May 1998, Alex Baker wrote:

> Could anybody tell how to set
> the Printer file on HP200LX and the printer
> switches so these 2 devices can talk to
> each other!

I've had a Canon BJ10SX for about 4 years, and haven't had any problem
printing.  Are you trying to print from built-in apps or DOS apps?
Also how are you connecting the 200LX to the printer.  I use the serial
cable to a S-P convertor plugged into the printer.  If you're trying to
print from DOS apps, make sure the serial port is on.

> I have tried selecting IBMproprinter on the
> 200LX, and BJ10 mode on the printer to no avail...

Those settings should work fine.  I use the Epson settings on both, but
either way should work.

> I downloaded a MS Works Dos driver from the canon
> site. Will this work? what do I have to do...?

You shouldn't need this.  The built-in apps will ignore it, and most
DOS apps have drivers for ProPrinter or Epson...

> It's moments like these that you realise just
> what an advance Win95 plug and play really
> was!

(No Comment)

-PR
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Sat, 30 May 1998 09:25:51 -0400

0 days & 03:17:21 ago ...
On Sat, 30 May 1998, Terrence Chun wrote:

> I have a 2x speed 200lx (courtesy of Times2Tech) and am wondering if it =
is
> better to install the included TREMM system or to run MaxDos to maximize=
 my
> available DOS memory.
>
> Does anyone have any experience in this regard?

Well...  no experience yet (ordered, but haven't received my 8M 2X
200LX yet).  I think the answer is BOTH!  The two progs serve
completely different purposes.  TREMM is an EMS memory emulator, and
MaxDos swaps out the SysMgr session to give RAM space to DOS apps.
MaxDos can use some of the EMS memory provided by TREMM for the swap
file.

HTH

-PR
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Subject:      Re: HPLX Wanted Dead or Alive
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of
> Stan Hall
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 1998 8:11 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> I am still looking for some working or dead HPLXs.  In particular I am
> looking for a dead 100lx (or even a empty case for one) and a working
> 95lx.

Hi Stan,

I still have a 95LX 1mb model available for sale. It has no problems other
than two lost legs and the screws that sit above them. Included also: a/c
adapter, pc card data/fax modem, manuals, serial cable.

Drop me a line off the list if you're still interested.

Regards,

Ian C. Melville
imelv@tstt.net.tt

FRONTLINE MARKETING AGENCIES
Trinidad, West Indies
http://www.opus.co.tt/fma   frontline@opus.co.tt

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Date:         Sat, 30 May 1998 14:44:07 -0400
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              Laurence Harvey <harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Following on from David Sargeants measurements I can provide the
following information, based on an unmodified 2MB palmtop:

200LX turned off consumes 0.45mA, with and without flash card.

Booting up (after CTRL-ALT-DEL) current fluctuates wildly, peaking at 70m=
A

Quiescent on state current consumption is 25mA average, fluctuating in sy=
nc
with the 1 second clock. When typing this increases to between 40 and 60m=
A.

High Charge =3D 110mA extra
Low Charge =3D 50mA extra

Serial interface turned on but no lead connected =3D 5mA extra (less than=
 =

I expected)

Serial interface turned on with lead connected to desktop PC =3D 12mA ext=
ra,
this does not change when transferring data.

Simple Technology 16MB Flash Card inserted
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
When palmtop is turned off, flash memory card takes no extra current. =


Booting up with flash card, current peaks at 190mA.

With the flash card inserted current consumption is 70mA (i.e. increases =
by
45mA) and does not drop (i.e. enter an idle state)

The result of all this is that the flash memory card is consuming about
45mA
all the time it is plugged in yet Simple Technology quote less than 1mA =

consumption in the quiescent sleep mode. It would seem that the 200LX
does not correctly drive this particular brand of memory card in order to=

achieve the best results. Simple Technology quote about 20mA current
consumption when active (reading) which, taking into account the inverter=

in the 200LX which  presumably generates 5V from the 2.6V battery voltage=
,
equates to about  40mA at the battery,  which is what I am seeing.

How do I get the Flash Card to enter idle mode as David Sargeants =

Simple Technology card seems to do?

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Sat, 30 May 1998 20:58:38 +0200
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> PalEdit supports keyboard macros for repetitive key sequences: press
> Ctrl-X (, then press the sequence of keys, and finally press Ctrl-X ).
> After that, the key sequence is stored and you can replay it with
> Ctrl-X E. If you want to repeat it, say 20 times, press Ctrl-U 20
> Ctrl-X E.

> Note that the Ctrl-U <number> feature works for most other keys
> too, not just for repeating macros.


I managed to repeat only single keys, but I can't repeat macros. When I give
it a macro to repeat 20 times ( Ctrl-U 20 Ctrl-X E ), it runs the macro only
once, without repeating. Did someone manage to repeat the macros? By the way,
the programme is GREAT, like any other product from Garzotto's kitchen!

Dejan Radic
Belgrade
Yugoslavia

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Date:         Sat, 30 May 1998 15:10:08 -0400
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Subject:      Nettamer error
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Please help

When attempting to setup newsgroup for download I receive error:
'error 64 in line0 of module READER"

Andy.

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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">
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http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Please help</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>When attempting to setup newsgroup =
for download=20
I receive error:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>'error 64 in line0 of module=20
READER&quot;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Date:         Sat, 30 May 1998 14:15:53 -0800
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              Bill Buzan <bbuzan@VENUS.SUPERSTORE.COM>
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Brian,

Is the 200LX still available?

Bill Buzan

>From: Brian Hunter <bwh@mail.netzone.com>
>Subject: FS: HP200LX 2 meg
>Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 07:47:22 -0700
>
>I have an HP200LX 2meg with AC power and PC connection cable, manuals
>etc etc. All in excellent condition.
>
>Asking $200 plus shipping.
>
>Thanks
>Brian
>

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Date:         Sun, 31 May 1998 00:41:56 +0100
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              Ross Lewis <ross@ESOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Subject:      Re: Fwd: FS: HP200LX 2 meg
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In message <9805302215.AA07418@venus.superstore.com>, Bill Buzan
<bbuzan@VENUS.SUPERSTORE.COM> writes
>Brian,
>
>Is the 200LX still available?
>
>Bill Buzan
>
>>From: Brian Hunter <bwh@mail.netzone.com>
>>Subject: FS: HP200LX 2 meg
>>Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 07:47:22 -0700
>>
>>I have an HP200LX 2meg with AC power and PC connection cable, manuals
>>etc etc. All in excellent condition.
>>
>>Asking $200 plus shipping.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Brian
>>
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Hi Brian :-)

Yes, still available


Cheers
Ross
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Date:         Sat, 30 May 1998 20:28:00 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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From:         "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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I asked the list the other day about a printing solution for Avery labels. I
got lots of suggestions, but none of them had the level of simplicity that I
was looking for. I wanted to choose records from my database and either print,
or export to a file then open another program and print.

I found an old DOS program called Avery LabelPro Version 1.61 that does exactly
what I want and looks and works fantastic on the LX. It will allow you to
customize different label definitions using common Avery labels, change fonts,
add PCX graphics, perform mail merges, add USPS bar codes and even manage text
databases.

To get my little system the way I wanted it, I did a custom CSV clip in my
database. I then made a system macro that will print to a CSV file in the Avery
directory with the records I select. I then open LabelPro under MaxDOS and have
a label defined that automatically merges that CSV file. All I have to do is
pick that label definition and print it through my Transdigital card.

It's pretty amazing that there's so much good DOS software out there just
waiting to be re-discovered.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Sat, 30 May 1998 22:01:42 -0400
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cable model cc3144 15 plus your choice of shipping
riley@iglou.com

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Date:         Sat, 30 May 1998 21:37:50 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "M. C. Beutler" <mycroft_h@BIGFOOT.COM>
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From:         "M. C. Beutler" <mycroft_h@BIGFOOT.COM>
Comments: To: jeffj@scott.net

There actually is an automobile adaptor for the HP200LX.  It is made by

Palmtops, Utlilities, & Peripherals Co.
P.O. Box 98
El Toro, Ca.  92630

It is a model PUP-15 Automotive Adapter.  It works from 13-15VDC input
and puts out 11.6VDC at 1.6 amps.  I got mine a couple years ago, I
think from Shier or Educalc.  Works quite well.  Hpoe that is enough
info to put you on the right track.

Actually, you should be able to hook your 200LX direct, but, as I
mentioned in a previous post to the list, that high an input DC to the
200 will cause the charger/power supply internal to it to get rather
hot.  All things being equal, at best this will reduce the the lifespan
of the palmtop to some degree.  It has been well established that for
every 10 degrees C increase in temp there is about a 50% decrease in
the life of silicon gates and I want my 200 to last forever!

#8-)

-
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       mark beutler     mycroft_h@bigfoot.com

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Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.11beta) REGISTERED

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Date:         Sat, 30 May 1998 21:58:55 -0500
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              "Ramon Santoyo V." <ramsan@INTERNET.COM.MX>
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I have been a HP user since the first HP-95 but switch to Palm Pilot
several months ago.  After many crashes, specially while traveling, I
decide to go back to my old HP-200LX.  Is there any program that can
migrate my Pilot phone, agenda and to-do-list to the HP-200?  Any
suggestions to do it?

Thanks in advance.

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Date:         Sat, 30 May 1998 23:18:22 EDT
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
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Can you dump the palm pilot files to CSV format?  If you can, gdbload will
have you up and running in no time.  If not, you may have print to file, and
manually format into a readable file.

Either way, welcome home!

lynn m. cavendish

(e-mail me direct, if i can help in some way.)

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Date:         Sat, 30 May 1998 22:25:21 -0500
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From:         Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      C on Palmy

I just picked up a cheap copy of Borland C 4.52 to decide if I wanted to
even attempt C programming.  As it turns out, I think I'll give it a
whirl.

Problem is, I'll be going away for about three weeks this summer and that
is my only study time for the project.  I'll only have the HP200lx with a
10M flash card (4M left free right now).  I need a compiler and such that
I can use on it.  It really needs to be simple (I have 2 hours C
experience).

I also need cheap.  I spent $30 for the Borland set and that is about
right.  Freeware or something out of GNU would be great too if small
enough and straight-forward enough.

What is available?

Larry Zimmerman


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Date:         Sat, 30 May 1998 21:29:26 -0700
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From:         Bernard Torbik <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: modem FS 14,400 megahertz $15
Comments: To: MICHAEL K RILEY <riley@IGLOU.COM>
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Hi, Michael:
If the modem isn't sold, is in good condition and compatible with the
100/200LX, I'd like to buy it. Please advise.
>
Bernie Torbik
Shore Systems

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Subject:        modem FS 14,400 megahertz $15

cable model cc3144 15 plus your choice of shipping
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Date:         Sun, 31 May 1998 02:43:46 -0400
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: C on Palmy
Comments: cc: zimm4@JUNO.COM

   >HP200lx with a 10M flash card (4M left free right now).  I need a
   >compiler and such that I can use on it.  It really needs to be
   >simple (I have 2 hours C experience).
   >I also need cheap.  I spent $30 for the Borland set and that is
   >about right.  Freeware or something out of GNU would be great too
   >if small enough and straight-forward enough.
   >What is available?
Message-Id: <19980531064343.KXH18678@12.64.36.30>
Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 06:43:43 +0000

Look at http://www.mixsoftware.com

They sell an ANSI C compiler (PowerC) that's highly regarded and is $20
including a manual. Several of us use it on the LX cuz it's not very big.

Other choices are Borland Turbo C 2.0 or Turbo C++ 1.0 if you can find em.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 31 May 1998 20:00:18 +1200
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              Stefan Lombaard <slombaard@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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| Date:    Sat, 30 May 1998 22:25:21 -0500
| From:    Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
| Subject: C on Palmy
|....
| is my only study time for the project.  I'll only have the HP200lx with a
| 10M flash card (4M left free right now).  I need a compiler and such that
| I can use on it.  It really needs to be simple (I have 2 hours C
| experience).
|
| I also need cheap.  I spent $30 for the Borland set and that is about
| right.  Freeware or something out of GNU would be great too if small
| enough and straight-forward enough.
|
| What is available?
|
| Larry Zimmerman

I have Turbo C 2.0 - it takes up about 2Mb. Let me know if you are
interested. (I have recently managed to buy an old copy of Borland C++ ver
2 - this takes up +/- 14Mb.)

Regards,
Stefan Lombaard

PS: Does anyone know what the specifications are for TV remote control
transmissions? I realize that there is a program called RC that will do it
however I am interested in writing something similar for my HP200LX as a
project that would be able to record and play back remote control commands.
I have the I/O address + offset to control the IR port on the HP - the
problem is what to set it to.

I would greatly appreciate any help.
_

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Date:         Sun, 31 May 1998 03:36:08 -0700
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Dejan,

> By the way, the programme is GREAT, like any other product
> from Garzotto's kitchen!

Well, I would not go that far! I have eaten in Garzotto's
kitchen, from what he cooked. It is ok, but not GREAT. If it
wasn't for me being hungry, or his wife helping out, nothing
in his kitchen would be eaten :-)

(I am now probably going to be punished with burned food next
time I visit him...)

  Avi M. D&A

PS - I'll wait till June 1, then kick in again the stuff you
sent in...

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Date:         Sun, 31 May 1998 10:04:31 -0400
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              Jim Krist <jtkrist@CLARK.NET>
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does anyone have any experience with their multi-C package that allows
multiple treaded apps?
--
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>PS: Does anyone know what the specifications are for TV remote control
>transmissions? I realize that there is a program called RC that will do it
>however I am interested in writing something similar for my HP200LX as a
>project that would be able to record and play back remote control commands.
>I have the I/O address + offset to control the IR port on the HP - the
>problem is what to set it to.
>
>
Stefan,

Check out

        http://falcon.arts.cornell.edu/~dnegro/IR/

Lots of good info on IR remotes. Also, check out the app notes at
www.microchip.com. I seem to remember them having an app note in
interfacing a PIC to an IR remote.

John

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Andreas asked me to post the following announcement. It was
also posted on HPHAND in Compuserve.

Hope you guys who are "hackers" will enjoy this one!

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Subject: Announcement: ROBOT/LX

There is a new freeware client for WWW/LX available at

 http://www.dasoft.com

ROBOT/LX is a script driven program that lets you automate
stuff on the Internet. For example, it can contact a server
on the Internet, ask for the current time and set the system
time of the palmtop to that time. Or it can telnet to a
server and run a job on that server. Basically, it can
automate about anything on the Internet that is accessable
through an ASCII based protocol.

ROBOT/LX is more like a "hacker tool" than an end-user
application since it requires that you are able to write
(simple!) scripts.

Andreas

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On 05-31 03:09am, you had written

-> >PS: Does anyone know what the specifications are for TV remote control
-> >transmissions? I realize that there is a program called RC that will do it

-> Stefan,
->
-> Check out
->
->         http://falcon.arts.cornell.edu/~dnegro/IR/
->
-> Lots of good info on IR remotes. Also, check out the app notes at
-> www.microchip.com. I seem to remember them having an app note in
-> interfacing a PIC to an IR remote.
->
-> John


Also may some some info from Syrex Co.  They make a drop in very high
speed replacement for some of the Pic parts and have a bunch of code on
their site.  Don't have the url at home, but if you can't find their
site, let me know; I will send url from work.

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Message text written by INTERNET:nickwb4sqi@wwd.net
>> Following on from David Sargeants measurements I can provide the
> following information, based on an unmodified 2MB palmtop:
> =

> 200LX turned off consumes 0.45mA, with and without flash card.
 =

How were these measurements made? Are there similar measurements with
PCMCIA modems?
<
These measurements were taken by placing a current meter in series with t=
he
batteries. This was physically achieved by using a thin piece of double
sided circuit board with a wired soldered to each side and connected to t=
he
current meter. =


A similar arrangement could be used to get an idea of a modems current
consumption, but bear in mind that you will be measuring the additional
draw from the batteries, not the current consumed by the modem. There is =
a
DC to DC convertor between the batteries and the PCMCIA slot generating 5=
V
from the 2.5V (approx) batteries which means that the current consumption=

of the modem will be less than the current you measure by this method.

Hope this helps

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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone out there has tried the Newton Keyboard outfitted
for the HP200lx.  I am thinking of buying one from Shier.  But first I wanted
to get some first hand impressions of the external keyboard.  Is the typing
feel good and is it worth the money ($130)?

Thanks,
-Guy

Guy Oshiro
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On 05-31 04:55pm, you had written

-> Message text written by INTERNET:nickwb4sqi@wwd.net
-> >> Following on from David Sargeants measurements I can provide the
-> > following information, based on an unmodified 2MB palmtop:
-> >
-> > 200LX turned off consumes 0.45mA, with and without flash card.
->
-> How were these measurements made? Are there similar measurements with
-> PCMCIA modems?
-> <
-> These measurements were taken by placing a current meter in series with the
-> batteries. This was physically achieved by using a thin piece of double
-> sided circuit board with a wired soldered to each side and connected to the
-> current meter.
->


   Slick idea!  Mind if I use your "intellectual property"?  8-)


-> A similar arrangement could be used to get an idea of a modems current
-> consumption, but bear in mind that you will be measuring the additional
-> draw from the batteries, not the current consumed by the modem. There is a
-> DC to DC convertor between the batteries and the PCMCIA slot generating 5V
-> from the 2.5V (approx) batteries which means that the current consumption
-> of the modem will be less than the current you measure by this method.


   I just scrounged some connectors that will work on pcmcia sockets
and plugs, was considering making an "extender board" so that the
pcmcia card being measured would remain external to the HP200.  Before
I go to the trouble though, perhaps someone out there with one of the
Doubleslot adapters can check to see if the connections can be gotten
at for this kind of measurements?  Making an extender would be a fussy
solder job.  Also, I wonder if it really matters in this application,
since the salient point is how much demand is placed on the HP200,
rather than exactly how much the card itself draws, eh?


-> Hope this helps
->
-> Laurence Harvey


   Laurence, did you, by any chance, measure the actual internal batt
charger currents in 100ma and 45ma modes?

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Subject:      Converting Dilbert Comics to Palmtop Topcards
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For those of you who are on Unix and have access to the PBM image tool
kit (look for the file "netpbm-1mar1994.tar.gz" at the location
"ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu:/graphics/graphics/packages/NetPBM/"), you
can convert a Dilbert GIF file (straight from www.dilbert.com) to a
PCX topcard file with the following set of programs (enter this as one
line in Unix, removing the backslashes):

giftopnm dilbert.gif | pnmcut 0 0 600 200 | \
pnmpad -white -l20 -r20 | pnminvert | ppmtopgm | \
pgmtopbm -threshold -value 0.25 | ppmtopcx > dilbert.pcx

And if you look at "http://www.princeton.edu/~srrostum/dilbert.html",
then you'll find an archive of dilbert comics (some dated before
August 1996).

You can then use LXPIC or the following program to display them on
your palmtop:

        http://www.best.com/~jonin/ftp/hp-palmtop/topcard.zip

Please note that I cannot send Dilbert comics to anyone, as I would be
breaking the law if I did so.  This information is free - the comics
are copyrighted by UnitedMedia.

Happy dilberting !

-- rwhitby@iname.com <http://rwhitby.home.ml.org> --

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Current draw on the HP95lx.

With nothing in the PCMCIA slot it draws about 45 mA idle
 and 160 mA when processing.

With a New Media 2400 Palm modem it draws  about 200 mA idle, 340 mA
processing.

When I first plug the card, the HP95 draws just 76 mA, but within a few
second it shoots up to 200 mA.

Even though the DC-DC converter is converting the voltage to 5 volts and
lower the current proportionally, minus the inefficiency, the power out of the
batteries is the main concern right?

I bought the palm modem used without software.  Where can I get the
software?  thanks

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Guy Oshiro wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I was wondering if anyone out there has tried the Newton Keyboard outfitted
> for the HP200lx.  I am thinking of buying one from Shier.  But first I wanted
> to get some first hand impressions of the external keyboard.  Is the typing
> feel good and is it worth the money ($130)?

I have  newton keyboard and it is OK for typing, no worse than most
laptops. Touch typers may need to get use to the spacing before working
on speed.

Be aware of the price, they sell new for $75 most places that offer
Newton accessories. Used prices can be a low as $45. The Newton
CLassifieds web page or the Newton Marketplace news group are great
places to find used keyboards. THey are also popular with the Palm Pilot
users, which is why I bought mine.

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Brian Dnovan wrote:
>
> Current draw on the HP95lx.
>
> With nothing in the PCMCIA slot it draws about 45 mA idle
>  and 160 mA when processing.
>
> With a New Media 2400 Palm modem it draws  about 200 mA idle, 340 mA
> processing.
>
> When I first plug the card, the HP95 draws just 76 mA, but within a few
> second it shoots up to 200 mA.
>

I went through this with a Newton MP2100 which had some means of logging
internal current comsumption. Most PC card modems ran between 165ma min
to 350ma max, idle curent was low, 15ma or so, added to the overall
system
current draw.

If the 95lx draws 160ma when processing, then with a PC modem, current
draw
could be as high as 500ma (@33.6), no wonder batteries are short-lived
in these
handhelds. Max current draw in a Newton MP2100 with XJ4336 modem was
about 245ma
at 33.6. Use of the AC adapter while surfing is a necessity I
believe....

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I just found a diskette for the HP100lx that is full of exm files. Can
someone give me a simple explanation of exm vs. exe.

tia
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Other than dedicating an old DOS machine to my HP's is there a
prescribed method for transferring files from a Win95 box to my
95 and 200lx?

tia
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On Sun, 31 May 1998, Nick Marsh wrote:

> I just found a diskette for the HP100lx that is full of exm files. Can
> someone give me a simple explanation of exm vs. exe.
>
> tia
> --
> 73
>
> Nick Marsh
> WB4SQI
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EXM files are sytem manager compliant files.

73
Jeff

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On Sun, 31 May 1998, Nick Marsh wrote:

> Other than dedicating an old DOS machine to my HP's is there a
> prescribed method for transferring files from a Win95 box to my
> 95 and 200lx?
>

Go to www.palmtop.net and follow the links to Transfile on the HP page. I
don't think it'll work on the 95LX, but it works like a champ on the
100/200LX and best of all, it's free.

73
Jeff

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Sun, 31 May 1998 20:19:14 -0400

55m54s ago ...
On Mon,  1 Jun 1998, Rod Whitby wrote:

>... you
> can convert a Dilbert GIF file (straight from www.dilbert.com) to a
> PCX topcard file with the following set of programs

... (UNIX commands snipped)

> You can then use LXPIC...

Cool Idea  8-)    But actually all you need is LXPIC.  This is more
than just a simple viewer.  If you can DL your Dilbert gif file or
other graphic, you can view, resize, reproportion, adjust contrast &
brightness, and save either the complete image or just the screen as a
B&W pcx file.  Using the "save screen" option, you get a 640x200 pcx -
just what you want for a topcard.

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On Sun, 31 May 1998, Nick Marsh wrote:

> I just found a diskette for the HP100lx that is full of exm files. Can
> someone give me a simple explanation of exm vs. exe.

EXM means it is designed to run from /under system manager.


>
> tia
> --
> 73
>
> Nick Marsh
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Tranfile on the HP web site with the serial cable.

On Sun, 31 May 1998, Nick Marsh wrote:

> Other than dedicating an old DOS machine to my HP's is there a
> prescribed method for transferring files from a Win95 box to my
> 95 and 200lx?
>
> tia
> --
> 73
>
> Nick Marsh
> WB4SQI
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Date:         Sun, 31 May 1998 21:08:42 -0400
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi all

I was wondering if you happen to use fax software if there is a comparison
of installed size of files..

ie comparison minimum installations of say BGfax,Bitfax,Qlink2fax,Qfax etc

Thanks

Russell

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Date:         Sun, 31 May 1998 22:10:36 -0500
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Sun, 31 May 1998, Russell Hemery wrote:

> ie comparison minimum installations of say BGfax,Bitfax,Qlink2fax,Qfax etc


Qfax receive files take up about 60k.  The send executable adds
another 40k.  I've got another couple kb tied up for logo and
signature graphics.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Sun, 31 May 1998 22:17:08 -0500
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject:      Personal Review of LXNNTP

First of all let me state that I am an avid user of Goin' Postal. It met a
need of email I had for retrieving email on my 200LX that I had previously
only solved by using Qua!-LX with my shell account. This set-up, though
somewhat klunky, did provide me with a way to read and write mail offline
with my 200LX. The following are my experiences with using LXNNTP to read
and write news articles offline on the LX.

Being extremely happy with Goin' Postal for email I was looking for a
solution for retrieving news articles on my LX. I has seen several postings
on the list from people talking about LXNNTP and decided to give it a try. I
promptly downloaded both it and PNR from Rod Whitby's web page. It's
important to note that you will need the modified version of PNR availible
from Rod Whitby as the version on S.U.P.E.R. will not work with LXNNTP. I
opted to try to use the packet driver supplied with GP, as I had great
experience using it with both Mini Telnet and Voice (an IRC program). The
first night of trying to write a wattcp.cfg file proved to be too much for
me and I fired off a message to the list asking for help. The help arrived
in my mailbox the next morning in the form of another user's wattcp.cfg file
(Wally's). I modified this file to fit the directory structure on my own LX.
I then crossed my fingers fired up GP, gave GP the shell escape instruction
(<Alt>+<S>) then waited for GP to shell out leaving the packet driver
loaded. Once GP sheeled-out I changed directories to where I had LXNNTP and
started it. This time something happened, not much but I was getting there.
LXNNTP reported that there were no groups to download. I sent a email to Rod
Whitby asking for help. He promptly responded by telling me that the groups
should be put in a file named 'incoming.jn' in the pnr spool directory. This
information was in the documentation but I had overlooked it. I got a copy
of my .newrc rc file from my shell account, placed it on my LX and renamed
it 'incoming.jn'. I went through all of the above procedures and this time
to my delight LXNNTP reported to me that it was downloading news articles =)
I went offline, read my mail in GP then went to the System Manager where I
had previously installed PNRTI and PNR. I ran PNRTI and it also appeared to
be doing something. I the fired-up PNR and 'sure nuff' there were newsgroups
there =)

My overall impression of LXNNTP combined with the modified version of PNR is
quite a good one. It's very important to read the docs, I didn't and it
caused me a lot of heartache. Now that I've got it configured properly
everything works great! On my want list for LXNNTP is the ability to
subscribe/unsubscribe from newsgroups from within PNR and the ability to
'catch up' individual groups would be a real bonus. LXNNTP will allow you to
'catch-up' the newsgroups from the command line, but it requires that you
'catch-up' all the groups, there is no option for individual groups.

With Goin' Postal I have, in my opinion, the best email software for the
palmtop. With the addition of LXNNTP to my C: drive my 200LX just got even
more powerful. The packet driver of GP supports GP, LXNNTP, LXFTP, Mini
Telnet, Voice (IRC), LXPING and I'm sure there are other PPP applications
which I'm unaware. Rod Whitby is to be commended for his work on making
LXNNTP available to the palmtop community, especially since it's _free_. I
would encourage everyone on the list to give it a try, but be forewarned,
it's a bit trick to get set-up, at least it was for me. Once everything is
configured correctly it works great.

Jeff


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