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This discussion has turned to the emotions. In my experience, companies
do ont respond well to the idea that, "you have such a superb product,
why do you stop making it"?

In every company where I have worked, Manufacturing loves the product
that is running down the production line and the last thing that they
want to see is the fellows from product design with another bunch of
problems.

Sales on the other hand has little interest in the product that is sold.
Each satisfied coustomer means someone who probably won't buy the newest
model. However, each new model represents a new opportunity to increase
sales, profits and so on.

Testimonials rarely affect either group. The one thing that they respond
to is sales. Any product which sells and continues to sell has a fair to
good chance to stay on the production line. If there is someone out
there who thinks that the 200LX is the best possible answer, let him ask
HP if they would sell the design and tooling. Obviously, they would
require that it be cosmetically different but that should be possible.
Think about it.

Best regards and Happy New Year,

Art Borg

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jan 1998 11:48:17 -0500
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John Stafford wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried a Geofox-One (only available ordered direct).

On another NG I have read that they are not yet shipping. Can anyone
confirm or deny this?

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jan 1998 14:28:57 -0000
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Hi, Please E-mail a copy to me as well. Many thanks.
Cheers
HS Teo
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> From: Don S. Penner <dspenner@PCS.MB.CA>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Standing in line for OB6DSK.ZIP
> Date: Friday, December 26, 1997 6:52 PM
>
> At 01:29 12/24/97 EST, you wrote:
> >Ken (et al.),
> >I downloaded the file from AOL. I will forward to anyone who requests.
> >
> >Dennis
>
> I would be grateful to receive a copy of the file.
>
> Thanks very much
>
> Don Penner
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Me too...
thanks!

gaioni@cs.unibo.it

>
> Hi, Please E-mail a copy to me as well. Many thanks.
> Cheers
> HS Teo
> ---------
> > From: Don S. Penner <dspenner@PCS.MB.CA>
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Standing in line for OB6DSK.ZIP
> > Date: Friday, December 26, 1997 6:52 PM
> >
> > At 01:29 12/24/97 EST, you wrote:
> > >Ken (et al.),
> > >I downloaded the file from AOL. I will forward to anyone who requests.
> > >
> > >Dennis
> >
> > I would be grateful to receive a copy of the file.
> >
> > Thanks very much
> >
> > Don Penner
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Date:         Thu, 1 Jan 1998 11:52:15 +0100
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Me too..
thanks!!!!

100558a@xs4all.nl

Raffaele Gaioni wrote:

> Me too...
> thanks!
>
> gaioni@cs.unibo.it
>
> >
> > Hi, Please E-mail a copy to me as well. Many thanks.
> > Cheers
> > HS Teo
> > ---------
> > > From: Don S. Penner <dspenner@PCS.MB.CA>
> > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: Standing in line for OB6DSK.ZIP
> > > Date: Friday, December 26, 1997 6:52 PM
> > >
> > > At 01:29 12/24/97 EST, you wrote:
> > > >Ken (et al.),
> > > >I downloaded the file from AOL. I will forward to anyone who requests.
> > > >
> > > >Dennis
> > >
> > > I would be grateful to receive a copy of the file.
> > >
> > > Thanks very much
> > >
> > > Don Penner
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 11:24:00 +0000
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On 1997-12-31 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >Remove the
   >others and the shell is ~200kb. Remember to have EMS or some
   >swapspace on C: - it eats 200kb of memory as well, which is then
   >swapped out.

So after it's swapped out, how much conventional memory does the remainder
occupy?

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jan 1998 14:01:23 +0100
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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Longden Loo wrote:

> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 11:24:00 +0000
> Message-ID: <19980101112359.AAA4078@12.64.36.129>
>
> On 1997-12-31 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
>    >Remove the
>    >others and the shell is ~200kb. Remember to have EMS or some
>    >swapspace on C: - it eats 200kb of memory as well, which is then
>    >swapped out.
>
> So after it's swapped out, how much conventional memory does the remainder
> occupy?
>
According to the documentation, it uses 3kb of memory while executing a
child proecess. You can also choose not to swap, thereby speeding up
execution time, which is useful for programs that don't require much
memory. (Not swapping means faster execution).

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jan 1998 09:05:04 -0500
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Minix can be found at ftp cs.vu.nl/pub/minix.

I bought in 1987 (when it originally was released) and ran it on two 360
floppy drives on a 8086.

I met it again last year as tutor on an operating systems course. The fir=
st
step is to get all the readme files and find out what you need to downloa=
d.
There is a TINYROOT archive for small memory machines.  =


I wonder if the low-level drivers for the disks will cause any problems o=
n
the LX.

Jorgen
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>> "I get knocked down But I get up again You're never gonna keep me down"

>Not sure what song this is from, but I've heard it on the radio.  Seems
>appropriate for the 200LX after the release of the Windows CE devices.  :-D

"tubthumper" (or something like that) by CumbaWamba
>--
>Visit the HP200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp
>
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Date:         Fri, 2 Jan 1998 00:26:30 +0800
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Can anyone tell me their experience with TIPI programming language? I
remember reading it sometime ago in the Palmtop Paper.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jan 1998 11:38:43 EST
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<< HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU (HPLX Mailing List) >>
I know the ROM? programs such as quicken, lotus, HP hex calc. can not be
removed; can the programs be copied to be used on another computer?  I have
lotus 123 dos, but I have an .EQN file that I'd like to run on a laptop  and I
believe I need the HP hex calculator.   Yes or No?

Thanks, Teresa

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jan 1998 12:55:16 -0500
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From:         Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: HP-200LX / Daytimer-98

On  Wed, 31 Dec 1997 19:46:12, you wrote:

> I am trying to use Intellilink from PUMA Software to sync the Phone
> Book in my HP-200LX with Daytimer-98. Since they produced the program,
> one would think that PUMA would have the answer; however, PUMA's support
> is worthless. I have PUMA's Intellilink version for the PalmPilot also,
> and it works without a flaw.

As per. page 3. of the Palmtop Paper Nov/Dec 1997
Under Software it states:

Intellisync for HP 200LX has been engineered as a 16.bit application,
and as a result, can only support 16-bit applications such as
Schedule+, Lotus Organizer, 2.1 Sidekick, ect.

As a 16-bit application, Intellisync for HP 200LX cannot support any
32-bit applications, such as Microsoft Outlook 97, Lotus Organizer 97,
ACT! 3.X, ect.

Maybe it you get can the 16-bit version it mite work!

I hope that this is helpful information.





Regards,

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From:         Paolo Piovano <paolo.piovano@ACQUI.ALPCOM.IT>
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HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY!!!

CIAO

PAOLO FROM ITALY

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jan 1998 12:50:04 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Utility to convert from OUTLOOK to Appointment Manager
Comments: To: Brian A McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@JUNO.COM>

Brian,

        Thanks, I'm glad someone was able to come up with something to keep us current. Thanks again and Happy New Year.

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To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Utility to convert from OUTLOOK to Appointment Manager

If anyone is interested in a utility to transfer apppointments and tasks
from Outlook to HP-100/200, please give me an email. If there is
sufficient interest I will send to SUPER or if not will send to
individual users. Right now it is one way only (outlook to HP) and does
not do repeating appointments as repeating appointments - each one is
treated as its own event - I still am working on it though! (grin).

I hope everyone had a happy holiday and wish you all a properous new
year!

Brian

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Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jan 1998 15:23:39 -0500
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Tech: QUICK/LX

If anyone is using QUICK/LX with POST/LX can you send me your
configuration.

I'm unable to get QUICK/LX (demo) to work with POST/LX automatically.
The only way that I can get it to work is by  shelling to DOS and
manually install it. I followed the setup instructions and add the line:

a:\quick\quick

It works just fine with Memo and PalEdit. If I can get the demo to work
I plan on ordering the full version on Friday 01/02/98.






Regards,

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Date:         Thu, 1 Jan 1998 20:35:40 GMT
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Has anyone got any C code they would be prepared to let me have for =
serial
comms?  It's a long time since I did any of this, and I've forgotten all
the little fiddles I used to use. I think my specific problem is that I
need to use a 3 wire connection, so none of the handshake lines are
connected, and this causes problems in receiving.

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
Team 200LX UK
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Date:         Thu, 1 Jan 1998 15:57:41 -0600
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Yes Al, turn about is fair play :) By the way I'm also sending this to
the list since I've been deluged with requests on how to set-up the dos
Popmail program on the HP200Lx. Here is exactly how I accomplished it:

First download etherppp and popmail from www.agate.net/~tvdog/internet.html

Unzip the etherppp.zip file into a directory named ppp. The files you
need from the archive are config.ppp, dial.ppp, ppp.exe & termin.com

You will need to modify the dial.ppp file to suit your individual needs,
here is the script for my dial-up ISP:

send "at\r"
recv 5000 "OK\r\n"
send "atdt2711140\r"
recv 60000 "login:"
send "jeffj.ppp\r"
recv 3000 "password:"
send "mypassword\r"

Of course, depending on your ISP you will need to modify the above script
to suit your needs. You don't even need a script like the above if you
are connecting via a direct serial link (cable) :)

To run the program make sure all of the above listed files are in the ppp
directory, also note that the /c 2 refers to COM2 and the /s 19200 refers
to 19200 baud rate, the /d script refers to the above mentioned script
which can be omitted if connecting directly via a serial link.

At the C:> prompt in the ppp directory type the following:

ppp /c 2 /s 19200 /d script

The program should then begin to dial and if you have the script written
correctly the program will dial your ISP, do the appropriate negotiations
and leave you with a line that says somethin like Your IP is
208.220.5.192 or your appropriate IP address. The packet driver is now
loaded!!!

From here you should be able to run any DOS program which requires a
TCP/IP stack such as Popmail. To set-up Popmail, just follow the included
instructions. It's really an easy process. The Popmail program includes a
telnet client which emulates VT100, an IP lookup program which is helpful
in finding the acual IP address of a server. In order to set-up the
program you need to know your ISP's gateway address, the DNS address or
addresses and your IP address at the time of logon.

The above instructions refer only to connecting to an ISP via PPP if you
use SLIP, you'll have to use another packet driver, of which several are
available.

If the only access you have to the Net is via a shell account you can
still use the above set-up you just need to find the program named Slirp
on the internet and compile it on the UNIX box. This program is a
SLIP/PPP emulator and actually works quite well.

I hope that Al and everyone else finds this info useful and hopefully it
will be helpful to those who want to connect via PPP using their palmtops
without having to resort to Nettamer. Good luck & Happy New Year!!!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
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Birmingham, Alabama USA
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Date:         Thu, 1 Jan 1998 17:27:53 -0500
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Tech 98: QUICK/LX

If anyone is using QUICK/LX with POST/LX can you send me your
configuration.

I'm unable to get QUICK/LX (demo) to work with POST/LX automatically.
The only way that I can get it to work is by  shelling to DOS and
manually install it. I followed the setup instructions and added the line:

a:\quick\quick

Note: POST/LX is running under Maxdos as follows:
c:\bin\maxdos.com -da:\postlx a:\postlx\reader.exe|

It works just fine with Memo and PalEdit (but not under POST/LX).
( PalEdit is also my text editor for POST/LX).

If I can get the demo to work I plan on ordering the full version on
Friday 01/02/98.

This is a most have program, If you don't have it, you seriously need to
think about getting it. Make it a late or early Christmas gift for
yourself.  (:*D

Happy New Years.............




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Date:         Thu, 1 Jan 1998 16:56:21 -0600
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Oops :( I forgot to mention in my previous post that once you finish
whatever PPP application you are using you should close the packet driver
program to recover the memory it uses. In order to do this go to the ppp
directory and type termin 0x60, this will close the modem connection and
unload the program. I'm sorry I forgot to mention this info earlier. Good
luck!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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I have some questions. Can someone tell me what kind of backup battery is
used in the 200 lx. Is this the CR2032 or the CR2025 (or another)?

When using stacker on an flashdisk, how do you avoid error-messages when
booting if no flashcard is in the mashine?

Maybe out of place, but I try anyway. How do you connect 2 windows95
machines using IR communication. Should you use direct cable connection
(when I try this I receive an error that the loginname/password is
incorrect) or should I try microsoft IR - lan connection? (When I try this I

get an yellow ! in the system devices overview. Or should I try something
else? The machines are a Toshiba 210 CT and a Toshiba libretto 50. The IR
ports work correctly when connecting to an HP340 printer or to a Nokia
Communicator 9000. What am I doing wrong? Please help!

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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998 00:26:30  Chong Chneah wrote:

> Can anyone tell me their experience with TIPI programming language?=
 I
> remember reading it sometime ago in the Palmtop Paper.

TIPI is a extensible, threaded, interpreted language - very similar=
 to
FORTH.  I tried it a couple of years ago when it was on the PTP disk.=

As I recall, it includes some HP specific graphics functions and string
handling that most FORTHs don't.  If you are familiar with FORTH,
you'll probably feel at home with TIPI.  I've been using Pygmy Forth
for quite a while now, and found TIPI quite a bit slower...

Generally I think it's a nice language - but my personal preference=
 is
still FORTH.

Happy New Year  8-)

-PR
------------

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    *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
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Battery for 200-LX is CR-2032.

Frank

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Bas Pruijn wrote:

> When using stacker on an flashdisk, how do you avoid error-messages when
> booting if no flashcard is in the mashine?


I'd like to know this too.  I have a point in my autoexec.bat at which I copy a
random file from the A: drive to be a new topcard.  That way, every time I
reboot my computer I get a new topcard.  However, if I don't have the card in
the slot, it pauses for the "Not ready reading drive A, Abort, Retry, Fail?"
error.  This wastes valuable time as I have several lengthy macros that run when
the System Manager is loaded and I often fail to notice that the error has
paused it, for a long time.  There must be some way of checking for a card in
the slot that won't trigger a "Not ready" error if it's not there.  Anybody know
how to do this?
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This maybe a stupid question, but I have another DOS based machine I would
like to use as an adjunct to my 200lx. Is it possible to run the LX utilities
on this machine? I have a copy of the Windows PIM, but I need to run them
under DOS.

Thanks in advance,
Dennis

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The documentation that comes with the Times2Tech driver indicates that it
should not be used with other 'clock tricking' type programs... In fact,
without the T2T driver, the screen flickers and is actually shifted about
1/8" to the right with garbage (tho still _readable_).  I believe both
the T2T driver and TurboCPU change the number of clock cycles dedicated
to screen re-fresh, in the first case to make it readable, and in the
second case to speed up the processing of information.

That being said, I used TurboCPU for 6 months whithout a hitch before I
got the 2x upgrade.  Again, MaxCPU didn't give problems either, but the
screen flicker was very annoying (precious contrast went down as well).


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Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:
>
> Minix can be found at ftp cs.vu.nl/pub/minix.
>
> I bought in 1987 (when it originally was released) and ran it on two 360
> floppy drives on a 8086.
>
I had V1.71 running on a pretty odd XT. Little memory and so on. I have
the new book and disc (Why did Philips insist on disc instead of disk?)
but have not had time to experiment. If you had a 20Mb. memory card, you
would have as much hardware as I did.

Dr. Al Woodhull has a has his web site on a 486 running minix. Was
reliable enough that he went to Central America and left it running. His
comment, was that it only required intervention one time during the
school year. A little mind boggling to think of a web site running on a
HP200LX.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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How about a "case" statement...although not sure if supported in dos 5

David Sargeant wrote:
>
> Bas Pruijn wrote:
>
> > When using stacker on an flashdisk, how do you avoid error-messages when
> > booting if no flashcard is in the mashine?
>
> I'd like to know this too.  I have a point in my autoexec.bat at which I copy a
> random file from the A: drive to be a new topcard.  That way, every time I
> reboot my computer I get a new topcard.  However, if I don't have the card in
> the slot, it pauses for the "Not ready reading drive A, Abort, Retry, Fail?"
> error.  This wastes valuable time as I have several lengthy macros that run when
> the System Manager is loaded and I often fail to notice that the error has
> paused it, for a long time.  There must be some way of checking for a card in
> the slot that won't trigger a "Not ready" error if it's not there.  Anybody know
> how to do this?
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"Case" statement... ?  I'm not certain what this is.  I tried an "IF
EXIST" statement
pointing to a file on the A: drive, but it didn't work; it still
triggered the "NOT
READY" error.

John Deranian wrote:

> How about a "case" statement...although not sure if supported in dos 5

>
> David Sargeant wrote:
> >
> > Bas Pruijn wrote:
> >
> > > When using stacker on an flashdisk, how do you avoid
error-messages when
> > > booting if no flashcard is in the mashine?
> >
> > I'd like to know this too.  I have a point in my autoexec.bat at
which I copy a
> > random file from the A: drive to be a new topcard.  That way, every
time I
> > reboot my computer I get a new topcard.  However, if I don't have
the card in
> > the slot, it pauses for the "Not ready reading drive A, Abort,
Retry, Fail?"
> > error.  This wastes valuable time as I have several lengthy macros
that run when
> > the System Manager is loaded and I often fail to notice that the
error has
> > paused it, for a long time.  There must be some way of checking for
a card in
> > the slot that won't trigger a "Not ready" error if it's not there.
Anybody know
> > how to do this?



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Phenix,Bryan PYR wrote:
>
> Anyone know of some way or some good software that allows a person to
> turn off the feature which times out the HP after a while?  I'd like to
> use mine to log some data so the unit can't turn itself off after 3 ro 5
> minutes of no input.
>
> Thanks
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My HP95 doesn't turn off when the serial port is in use (I use it as a
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Greetings & Again, Happy New Year!

        Thanks to Jeff's tip, I have etherppp connecting to my ISP,=
 and
I have TN3270 from the CUTCP package recognizing the "dynamic IP", but
I'm still don't seem to have the CONFIG.TEL configured correctly. If
any of you have used this emulator, could you drop me a line?

TIA & Cheers,



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I would like to have a copy if you have time to e-mail it.

thank you and Happy New Year

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian A McIlvaine SMTP:bamcilvaine@JUNO.COM
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 1997 4:03 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Utility to convert from OUTLOOK to Appointment Manager
>
> If anyone is interested in a utility to transfer apppointments and
> tasks
> from Outlook to HP-100/200, please give me an email. If there is
> sufficient interest I will send to SUPER or if not will send to
> individual users. Right now it is one way only (outlook to HP) and
> does
> not do repeating appointments as repeating appointments - each one is
> treated as its own event - I still am working on it though! (grin).
>
> I hope everyone had a happy holiday and wish you all a properous new
> year!
>
> Brian
>
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I can't find turbocpu on Super.  Where is it located?

Thanks.

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Claude_Holle wrote:
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> Brian,
>
>         Thanks, I'm glad someone was able to come up with something to keep us current. Thanks again and Happy New Year.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Brian A McIlvaine SMTP:bamcilvaine@JUNO.COM
> Sent:   Tuesday, December 30, 1997 2:03 PM
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> Subject:        Utility to convert from OUTLOOK to Appointment Manager
>
> If anyone is interested in a utility to transfer apppointments and tasks
> from Outlook to HP-100/200, please give me an email. If there is
> sufficient interest I will send to SUPER or if not will send to
> individual users. Right now it is one way only (outlook to HP) and does
> not do repeating appointments as repeating appointments - each one is
> treated as its own event - I still am working on it though! (grin).
>
> I hope everyone had a happy holiday and wish you all a properous new
> year!
>
> Brian
>
> Controversy equalizes fools and wise men  - and the fools know it.
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I am interested in the utility.  Would appreciate kind advice.

Montri Bunyapmai

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I'd like to know the answer to that "stupid" question too!!!
Teresa

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I recently bought a Palm Pilot Pro as a companion of HP 200LX since the HP
one cannot be taken up by the shirt pocket.  However, I love the address
book of HP very much and tried a number of ways suggested to convert the
address book to Pilot without satisfaction.  I believe it is impossible to
convert the data from one machine to the other.  Can anyone suggest a
fairly standard format for storing the information so that in future I do
not need to re-enter all records once I change the machine.

Thanks and regards,

Raymond

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jan 1998 11:56:32 EST
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Subject:      Memory allocation issues while programming in C

I am using Turbo C++ version 3.0 to write a utility for the HP-200 that
requires a heap size large than 64K. I am programming in straight C.
When I switch memory models to "Compact" , "Large," and "Huge," the
pointer sizes all change to 4 bytes, as I expected, but all my str
functions no longer work. I had assumed that the shift in library would
correct this, but evidently I am wrong. If there is an experienced
programmer out there who could give me some guidance, I would appreciate
it. Otherwise, I'll just keep on flailing away!

Thanks,
Brian

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jan 1998 11:11:33 -0600
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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Class3Dep wrote:

> This maybe a stupid question, but I have another DOS based machine I would
> like to use as an adjunct to my 200lx. Is it possible to run the LX utilities
> on this machine? I have a copy of the Windows PIM, but I need to run them
> under DOS.
>


The HP connectivity pack includes a serial cable, adaptors, and
software for transferring files.  The software runs many of the LX
App Manager functions under DOS, including Filer, Appointments,
Phone Book, NoteTaker, Database, Memo, Setup, HPCalc, and DOS shell.

The software (CPACK200) also has a nice utility for merging and/or
synchronizing phonebook, appt.book, database, notes, or pocket
Quicken files.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:03:51,  Jeff Malka wrote:

> I can't find turbocpu on Super.  Where is it located?

Turbo.zip can be at Eddie:

ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/hp95lx/hp100lx/







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Date:         Fri, 2 Jan 1998 19:17:45 -1
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Subject:      comport of the 200lx

I can get an 200lx. The comport however has some problem
if you start on the upper row on the left with pin 1 and go to the right to
pin 5:

1  2  3  4  5
6  7  8  9 10

then both pin 3 and 4 are broken.

Is this a problem for using any serial comm. (to pc or printer?)

Bas

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jan 1998 19:17:53 -1
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Subject:      ata disk

Someone came to me with a problem:

He has a HP 5 MB flashcard (ataflash). Worked alway perfect on the
200lx/windows 3.1/dos/win95. He wanted to format the card and has choosen to
do so in his dos/win3.1 machine. When he now tries to read the card in this
machine: no problem. When you however try to read in in the hp you will get
an error message. Win95 recognises there has been added a flashcard in the
pcmcia slot, but does not add a driveletter to my computer (anymore; did
work before). If you reformat the card in the dos mochine using msdos 6.2
format, you get ~1 mb of bad sectors on a 5MB card.

How can I get the card to work again?

Bas
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Ted,
Thanks very much for the info. Anything to watch out for when installing the
Connectivity Pack since I want it to be stand alone too?

Thanks again,
Dennis


In a message dated 98-01-02 12:11:41 EST, theise@netins.net writes:

<<
 The HP connectivity pack includes a serial cable, adaptors, and
 software for transferring files.  The software runs many of the LX
 App Manager functions under DOS, including Filer, Appointments,
 Phone Book, NoteTaker, Database, Memo, Setup, HPCalc, and DOS shell.

 The software (CPACK200) also has a nice utility for merging and/or
 synchronizing phonebook, appt.book, database, notes, or pocket
 Quicken files.

 Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
  >>

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Hi, Gareth.
Why not try an HP 200LX (DOS compatible)?  Actually, I'm not sure that
there is a C++ that runs on it, but I know that there are many programming
languages which you can run on it.  You could try asking the HPLX mailing
list (hplx-l@uconnvm.uconn.edu) if there is a C++ compiler that works.
There are quite a few programmers on the list.  Request that replies get
sent directly to you.

Cheers.
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----- forwarded message -----

From- CS Jan Allbright <wharfrat@pcisys.net>
Subject- Re: Utility to convert from OUTLOOK to Appointment Manager
Date- Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:40:38 -0700 (MST)

I assume that you are talking about converting the calander to hp format.
If that is the case ... sign me up!!!!!!!
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Date:         Fri, 2 Jan 1998 15:59:48 -0500
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At 07:17 PM 1/2/98 -1, you wrote:
>I can get an 200lx. The comport however has some problem
>if you start on the upper row on the left with pin 1 and go to the right to
>pin 5:
>
>1  2  3  4  5
>6  7  8  9 10
>
>then both pin 3 and 4 are broken.
>
>Is this a problem for using any serial comm. (to pc or printer?)

Yes.  It's a very big problem.  3 is Tx, which is the "send" line, and 4
is DTR, which is the "device ready" line.  You'll probably have to open the
computer and replace the connector (I don't even know if you can do that,
although you could probably do it with a soldering gun and a new right-angle
DIP connector.)
Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:47:22 -0500
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>I recently bought a Palm Pilot Pro as a companion of HP 200LX since the HP
>one cannot be taken up by the shirt pocket.  However, I love the address
>book of HP very much and tried a number of ways suggested to convert the
>address book to Pilot without satisfaction.  I believe it is impossible to
>convert the data from one machine to the other.  Can anyone suggest a
>fairly standard format for storing the information so that in future I do
>not need to re-enter all records once I change the machine.


Convert the HP200LX data to CSV format, then import it using the palm pilot
desktop software.

            Yi

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Date:         Sat, 3 Jan 1998 07:08:43 +0200
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Recommend he format the card on the palmtop

----------
> Someone came to me with a problem:
>
> He has a HP 5 MB flashcard (ataflash). Worked alway perfect on the
> 200lx/windows 3.1/dos/win95. He wanted to format the card and has choosen
to
> do so in his dos/win3.1 machine. When he now tries to read the card in
this
> machine: no problem. When you however try to read in in the hp you will
get
> an error message. Win95 recognises there has been added a flashcard in
the
> pcmcia slot, but does not add a driveletter to my computer (anymore; did
> work before). If you reformat the card in the dos mochine using msdos 6.2
> format, you get ~1 mb of bad sectors on a 5MB card.
>
> How can I get the card to work again?
>
> Bas
> Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
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Date:         Fri, 2 Jan 1998 18:14:21 -0800
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Hello!

I am new to this list and would like to inquire on any good syncro programs
for the 200 to outlook/whatever on the market. I have found
Puma/Intellisync, but was wondering if there were any others available?
This was mainly to accomplish the syncing of my calender(s).

Thanks, in advance, for any opinions or pointers

Steve Funk
slfunk@smartt.com

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Date:         Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:49:12 +1100
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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> Hi, Gareth.
> Why not try an HP 200LX (DOS compatible)?  Actually, I'm not sure that
> there is a C++ that runs on it,

Yep, Turbo C++ 1.01 works well. A few of us have it. Hard to get
(because it's old); but Borland's licensing agreement is that if
you have a later version of their C++, you automatically have a
license to use older copies.

Note that an 8MHz XT sounds slow; but because everything is on a fast RAM
disk (no hard drive), it is comparable to many desktops. Additionally,
you are not supporting the overhead of W95 (graphics, multi-tasking,
and features) or the bloated software that expects to have resources to
burn.

Also, when you press the 'on' button, it is *instantly* on, and runs for
weeks (30-40 hours) on a pair of AA batteries. Oh, it weights 300g (inc
batteries) and really does fit in your pocket.

--
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Bas Pruijn wrote:

> Someone came to me with a problem:


I would try putting the card in the 200LX, running FDISK100, then running FORMAT
on it.  All in the palmtop.  Whenever my cards get corrupted, this fixes it so
that I can read it on both the 200LX and the desktop (Windows 95).
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Question: How can I install the Stacker on the 200lx, which files are
required on the machine, since the full installation take up about 4 to
5 meg. of the disk space. Thanks....

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jan 1998 22:15:49 -0800
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Dont mean to offend those who don't practise Christianity, but... does
anyone know of a bible program or s/w for the 200. Possibly one
specifically for the 200 or a dos based program that would work on the
200..

Thanks
Steve

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Date:         Fri, 2 Jan 1998 23:57:35 -0800
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Greetings,

        PC Study Bible from Bible Soft is the most comprehensive Bible program
available that will run (slow) on the HP100/200LX.  Multiple windows,
including different translations, Strong's Concordance, Green's
Intraliniar, Vine's Expository Greek and Hebrew dictionary., etc.  A
complete reference library in you pocket.  Buy a big flash card.

Colin

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Date:         Sat, 3 Jan 1998 14:25:56 -1
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Subject:      error with mailinglist??

Since about 2 days, I don't recive *any* messages from the list! I receive
some other e-mails, but none from the list! Is this some problem on the
mailserver of my ISP or on the mailserver of the list. Please e-mail to me
directly for an answer!

Bas
126479bp@student.eur.nl  or
pruijn@few.eur.nl

Please Help!!!!!

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Subject:      Lotus 123 up for auction at ebay

Thought someone on the list would be interested in this - version 2.4 is
the version on the palmtop I bought a copy several months ago - and the
manual is very helpful.  Also nice to have the same version running on my
desktop - so it's easy to work on the same spreadsheet on either platform.

here's the url  -  bidding closes around noon pacific time today

http://iguana.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3450453

Note: this is not my auction - just thought it would be a nice find for
somebody.  Bidding is at $ 2.25 right now.  I paid $ 25.00 plus S&H for the
one I bought and it was a bargain at that.

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Mitch -

Are you aware of the fact that WWW/LX and HV cannot download files from
the SUPER site?

"Click" on a file, the CGI script runs, the FTP window opens, then the FTP
fails in a few seconds.

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> Are you aware of the fact that WWW/LX and HV cannot download files from
> the SUPER site?
>
> "Click" on a file, the CGI script runs, the FTP window opens, then the FTP
> fails in a few seconds.

I think this is a "feature" of HV. It seems to share this inability with some
versions of Internet Explorer. The reason the script runs this way is twofold:

1) Each access is counted so we can keep a semi-accurate SUPER Top-20.
2) Each ftp request is re-directed to a faster ftp server so you don't have to
wait.

The SUPER files can always be retrieved by ftp at:

ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm

Mitch

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Date:         Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:20:51 -0600
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Hey everyone.

I am a happy 100LX user who just bought a used 200LX so that I could
take advantage of the NSW upgrade.

Well it seems that I have a small problem.  It has no sound.  After
opening the case and guessing that it must just be a loose connection, I
discovered what appears to be a missing component on the motherboard.
My guess is that it is a transistor, but my knowledge of SMT components
is very limited.

First I was hoping someone could identify the component for me.  From
the CPU side it is the second component above the speaker pads as you
move towards the battery compartment.  The first component is labeled
8JY (or HJY) and I assume that the one that I am missing is a similiar
part.

Second I was hoping someone could supply me with the part or suggest
someone who would fix this inexpensively.  I would also like to hear
from anyone that has a trashed 200LX that they are using for parts.

Thanks

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On 1998-01-02 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu
   >Question: How can I install the Stacker on the 200lx, which files
   >are required on the machine, since the full installation take up
   >about 4 to 5 meg. of the disk space. Thanks....

From the HPLX List Archives:

Re: STACker 4.x on the LX

ianmel@opus.co.tt
Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:24:30 -0500

   * Messages sorted by:  date  thread  subject  author 
   * Previous message: Dale Thorn: "Re: Choice of printers"
   * Maybe in reply to: mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu: "STACker 4.x on the LX"

hp>I don't know if there is a way to compress an existing drive on
hp>the palmtop without using a desktop. Ian, any thoughts?

Sure Al! The method you outline works (I'm told) but I've never used it.
In my opinion the far easier (and much quicker) way - without involving
the desktop except to transfer files from the floppies - is as follows
(I'm assuming your card is designated drive A):

1- Start with a freshly formatted (or defragmented) card.

2- Include the following in your config.sys file:

device=a:\stacker.com
files=30
buffers=6 (you may use 15,5)
shell=d:\dos\command.com /p d:\dos

(Any device drivers needed to read drive A must be loaded before loading
the stacker device driver).

3- Create a file named 'stacker.ini' in the root dir of the drive you will
be compressing and type the following:

/P=10
/EMS (only for those with EMS available on their 200LX)
/AUTO
A:\STACVOL.DSK,RP

(Save this as an ascii file with carriage returns following each line). The
P=10 tunes Stacker for maximum compression, ie: 'MAXSPACE'. The EMS switch
saves about 35K of conventional mem.

4- Copy only these files to the 200LX:

stacker.com
create.com
screxec.exe
screxec2.exe (Total: 217,079 bytes)

(These may be placed on any drive or dir but the full path will be needed
to execute them. You may remove the last 3 after rebooting and successful
completion).

5- Terminate Appmgr and type drivepath create a: /s=0 /r=2.5

This will create a hidden stacvol.dsk on drive A using all the available
space with a comp ratio calculated at 2.5:1.

6- Reboot and you're finished. Now, wasn't this *easy* <g>.

Sidebar: Stacker 3 includes a file called stackpalm.exe which makes light
work of the above and even edits config.sys for you (of course version 3
uses no ini file).

Regards,

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Date:         Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:31:19 -0500
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Mitch -

> > Are you aware of the fact that WWW/LX and HV cannot download files from
> > the SUPER site?
> >
> > "Click" on a file, the CGI script runs, the FTP window opens, then the FTP
> > fails in a few seconds.
>
> I think this is a "feature" of HV. It seems to share this inability with some
> versions of Internet Explorer. The reason the script runs this way is twofold:
>
> 1) Each access is counted so we can keep a semi-accurate SUPER Top-20.
> 2) Each ftp request is re-directed to a faster ftp server so you don't have to
> wait.

As I say, the *script* runs, but the ftp *download* starts and aborts at 0
bytes.

> The SUPER files can always be retrieved by ftp at:
>
> ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm

I'll check again, but I think I had the same problem when going directly
to this site....

In any case, can you and Andreas get together on solving the HV/SUPERsite
incompatibility?

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> As I say, the *script* runs, but the ftp *download* starts and aborts at 0
> bytes.

And as I said, HV and some versions of Internet Explorer are broken when trying
to download files using our script front end.

> I'll check again, but I think I had the same problem when going directly
> to this site....

Should not be as this is just a regular ftp site. No frills...
>
> In any case, can you and Andreas get together on solving the HV/SUPERsite
> incompatibility?

I will let Andreas work out those problems. I will provide him any info he
needs to solve the problem, but since I can't write even the first line of C, I
would be of no help squashing the bug.

Mitch

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Hello ,

I find very nice information for me, maybe it will be interested for
others.
http://www.iinet.net.au/~muzza/win30.html this is very nice, but who knows
where to find Windows 3.0?

many thanx in advance.

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jan 1998 03:39:06 -0500
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I cannot use the Newton keyboard with Quick Basic 4.5, on my HP200LX.
Once I enter in QB, some keys work (the alpha-numeric ones) but keys:
capsLock, Shift, Ctrl, Option, Apple, Space, all arrows, do not.
If I press one of these in QB, a message appears:
"Memory allocation error
Cannot load COMMAND, system halted"
It is written over the QB normal screen.
After one message like this I can reboot with Ctrl+Alt+Del on 200LX keys.
If I press a second time a "bad" key on the Newton the System blocks
completely (eventually a second message identical to the first one appears
on the screen) and I have to do a System reboot.
I use the following hard and soft:
HP200LX (4Megs)
Newton keyboard from Shier Systems, modified. The Apple model is X0044
(under Shier label on the back).
The driver for keyboard is 0.4, which supports (as declared at boot) an
X0035LL / A Apple keyboard.

I would appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks,
Consuel Ionica
ionica@acsu.buffalo.edu

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http://www1.uni-erlangen.de/freeware/software/windows/bildung/germanw1.zip
Appears to be a version of windows 3.0, but probably in german.

     G A T E S 9 9 @ M E D C O R . M C G I L L . C A
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---

Thanks to Tony for forwarding this message to the HPLX list.

I had to
unsubscribe from the list about a week ago because the reliability of my =
ISP
has fallen to a level so that I need a phone call for about each
message. The line is dropped about each 10 seconds :-( At least until
that gets better or until I have found a better ISP, I won't
resubscribe to the list.

Regarding HV and the Super site: Mitch, what do you think is easier?
Fixing HV and IE and distributing the new version all over the world or
removing that unsupported feature from the Super site?

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jan 1998 09:40:45 -0500
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In-Reply-To:  Consuel Ionica <ionica@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU> "Newton keyboard does
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> The driver for keyboard is 0.4, which supports (as declared at boot) an
> X0035LL / A Apple keyboard.

You might want to try the newest version of the driver (version 0.5). I don't
know if this will solve your problem, but it's a good place to start. The
driver is on the SUPER Site:

http://www.super.html

Mitch

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Comments: cc: peterw@wisdom.palmtop.net
In-Reply-To:  Tony Hutchins <tonyhut@IBM.NET> "Re: SUPER site and HV" (Jan  4,
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> Regarding HV and the Super site: Mitch, what do you think is easier?
> Fixing HV and IE and distributing the new version all over the world or
> removing that unsupported feature from the Super site?

Well, the complaints we had about IE have stopped so I assume that the newer
versions no longer have that feature.

When I look at my server's agent log, I see that WWW/LX shows up in 837 out of
274838 lines. At 0.3% of Palmtop.Net's traffic in that sample of visits, WWW/LX
compatibility does not seem like a big issue. If I drop the script, I lose the
count function and the SUPER Top 20 will have to go away which (I think) is a
big loss. Maybe if you can tell me what needs to change with the way the script
runs, I can figure out a compromise. I will be happy to email the counter
script to you.

Mitch

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jan 1998 10:12:22 -0500
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Each time I reboot my HP200, I lose my system macros, and have to reload
them throught the system macro program. Is there a way I can automate this
in my autoexec.bat?

Gavin
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gavin@inforamp.net    shared hope is cubed (or better)."
Mississauga, ON                               -Lady Sally McGee
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Date:         Sun, 4 Jan 1998 10:14:20 -0500
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I checked the index at Gutenberg (www.gutenberg.com) and found the
following free-of-charge ASCII texts:

Apr 1992 New Etext of Bible KJV From many editions     bible10x.xxx=

Aug 1989 The Bible, Both Testaments, King James Version    kjv10xxx.xxx=

Dec 1984 The Bible, The New Testament, King James Version  biblexxx.xxx=


My index is not up-to-date so there may be more.

Jorgen

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:33:03 +0100
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Let's see if this works...

I'm currently having problems recieving list messages. This should help
determine the problem.

Regards,

Laust

(Do not make a thread out of this post or tell me that I shouldn't post
tests to the list. This was the only way :-)

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Bas Pruijn wrote:

> When using stacker on an flashdisk, how do you avoid error-messages when
> booting if no flashcard is in the mashine?
       I've used Stacker on my flash cards for years and never had that
problem.  I'm no "DOS" or "Stacker" guru, but here's my config.sys file:
buffer=20
files=30
lastdrive=J
Device=C:\STACKER\STACKER.COM /P=0 A: B:

       If I reboot with no card, I select "alt" for boot options and then
option "2."   I also have config.sys and autoexec. bat (identical) on the
flash card along with stacker.com on both drives.  It probably doesn't make
any difference (in terms of your problem), but the executable file for my
veterinary program is on both drives also.  The above applies to my 100lx.  I
just pulled the card on the 200lx (also has Stacker) and rebooted, when I
press alt I don't get any options it just goes to the topcard screen.  (Same
config.sys except loads double speed driver on first line).  Let me know if
this helps.
       Jean F. Feldman,DVM
       Hamburg, NY

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Can anyone tell me the differences between an upgrade of 4MB RAM and an ATA
flash PC card in terms of speed and power consumption.

Thanks,

Raymond

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Subject:      Re: SUPER site and HV
Comments: To: "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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On Sun, 4 Jan 1998, Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:

> When I look at my server's agent log, I see that WWW/LX shows up in 837 out of
> 274838 lines. At 0.3% of Palmtop.Net's traffic in that sample of visits, WWW/LX
> compatibility does not seem like a big issue.

I am probably a slow learner, since I keep going back to your site ,
hoping it will work. I'm probably 2-3% of your 837.

Maybe most palmtoppers using WWW/LX have figured out that your site is
useless to them, since they cannot download from it with HV, and stopped
going to it?

As for    ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm    I just tried it with HV and
WWW/LX (1705 hours 1/4/98) and am unable to connect....

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Hi

Amidst all this talk about etherppp and such, I was thinking on how
would it be possible to network my Palmtop with my OS/2 Desktop system.

I can have a multitude of protocols on OS/2 from TCP/IP to Netbios, etc

Can anyone point me to some info or utilities ?

TIA



Shafik Mahomad
-----------------> Deliriously happy with OS/2 !
Lisbon, Portugal

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Is there any way to monitor battery voltages in DOS on a 200LX?

Thanks,

Michael
_____________9:41:49 PM EST, 1/4/98_____________

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> Is there any way to monitor battery voltages in DOS on a 200LX?

There's a whole bunch on SUPER - LXBAT(?), and BUDDY contains this
in its repertoire.

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> I have received from Jorgen Wallgren a video driver that seems to give
> full "CGA" graphics function of Acad R10 on my 200LX.  When exiting, it
> requires a three finger salute to restore the video to standard mode.  I
> also have not been able to get it to work with LaunchCAD, a ahareware
> Acad shell has that made R10 much more manageable.  No problem with
> EM87, though.  I've been using the arrow keys for cursor control, but
> that doesn' give access to the top and side menus, so I'm going to try
> HPmouse.  Are you interested in a copy of that driver?

I was working with autocad 10 a long time ago.
I will be fine if you can send me a copy of this drivers.
(dos for ever)

My second probleme is to fine an american release of autocad 10,
because the french one I was using had a dongle (key) on the //
port. : (
(I'm french, living in Australia from one year).

bests regards
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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From: Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
>Yep, Turbo C++ 1.01 works well. A few of us have it. Hard to get
>(because it's old); but Borland's licensing agreement is that if
>you have a later version of their C++, you automatically have a
>license to use older copies.

If the above is true, that means I'm entitled to running Turbo C++
legally on my Palmtop.  After all, I have serval (later) versions of
Borland C++ that's gathering dust right now, and yes I bought
those.

Now, anyone willing to email me the disks of Turbo C++ 1.0,
and 2.0 (if it works on HP200LX), legally?  =)

Yes, this is a request for Turbo C++, thanks.

            Yi

P.S. For anyone that has later versions of Borland C++, I'm
willing to do the same, and email you Turbo C 2.0.  For
users of Dephi & Turbo Pascal, I have Turbo Pascal 7.0
(which should work on the palmtop), which I do not use.
I hate Pascal.

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J.P.
As I've mentioned before...try DOSSHELL.  It works okay, but swaps to disk and
doesn't have the palmtop specific features of Software Carousel.  The DOS
vesrion of SC *will not work* on the HPLX.  I've tried and communicated with
*many* others in the past who have tried.
Regards,
David Runge

In a message dated 97-12-31 12:49:35 EST, you write:

<< I don't need to run multiple
 SysManagers; I just want to sometimes be able to run a couple of DOS
 programs at once.

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 J. P. Grenert >>

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I am a happy owner of a 200lx  searching for software for my palmtop.
As a university student (engineering) I want a program to perform
various mathematical computations . My thought was to find software to
make my palmtop as powerful as a hp48 calculator. Is this possible?

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:00:12 -0000
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They are definitely shipping as someone here has got one.  It seemed a bit
big - it has a huge screen.  It's not a touch screen so is much clearer to
read than the CE machines.  Has built-in PC card slot (Psion 5 does not).
Can't tell you more than that, I only had 5 minutes a week or two before
Christmas.

William Brown

> -----Original Message-----
> From: anborg SMTP:anborg@EAGLE.SEED.NET.TW
> Sent: 01 January 1998 16:48
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Geofox-One
>
> John Stafford wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone tried a Geofox-One (only available ordered direct).
>
> On another NG I have read that they are not yet shipping. Can anyone
> confirm or deny this?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Art Borg
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Hi,

Finally I have seen the crack since one of my units has developed a small
one. Since I am working at HP as a Product Manager for HP palmtop PC's
(Asia Pacific), it would be very good if I could from this list collect
some information from you and then I will see what I  can do so we could
try to avoid this problem on future units.

If you have experienced this crack, please send me (to my private e-mail
address: jorgen@palmtop.net) following information:

1. The Serial Number of your unit with a hinge crack:
2. Where it was purchased (e.g. Florida- USA, London- UK etc):
3. How long did it take for your unit to develop the crack:

I would highly appreciate this information since I will seriously take a
look at this problem.

Thanks & Regards,

Jorgen Wallgren


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I seem to remember a recent thread about the HP200LX IR port. I have
just seen a tantalizing bit saying that there is software from HP to
make that port IrDA compliant at least to the point of driving printers.
Can anyone point me in the right direction to find it? I would
appreciate it very much.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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In a message dated 98-01-05 07:07:54 EST, you write:

<<
 >>
I loaded the cpack 2000 on the pc now what?  Where do I look for the dos apps?
I've tried the .exe files but the error reads no TSR!!

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 07:16:25 -0600
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  > Dont mean to offend those who don't practise Christianity, but... does
  > anyone know of a bible program or s/w for the 200. Possibly one
  > specifically for the 200 or a dos based program that would work on the
  > 200..

Check out the URL in my sig...you'll find two freeware Bible programs.

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    - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
     ------- finger thoover@pobox.com for PGP key --------

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:18:52 +0100
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On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Vasilis Tzimis wrote:

> I am a happy owner of a 200lx  searching for software for my palmtop.
> As a university student (engineering) I want a program to perform
> various mathematical computations . My thought was to find software to
> make my palmtop as powerful as a hp48 calculator. Is this possible?

Derive (www.derive.com) is probably the best Symbolic mathematics program
availiable for DOS. I know version 3.0 runs fine on the 200LX (95LX too),
but the new v4.0 apparently includes features from Derive XM (eXtended
Memory - that is 386+), so it is probably bigger and perhaps slower?. It
should run on the 200lx, though.

A reasonable installation of derive is ~300kb

Derive differentiates and integrates (better than the HP48) as well as
various computations on matrices. Everything is done symbolicaly, although
you can choose to do it with floating-point as well.
It can also solve for unknowns - I found the generic solutions to the
third degree polynomium ax3+bx2+cx+d=0 with Derive. This was on a 486,
though, and it did take a long time :-)

Check out their web-site for more info.

If you only want floating-point maths, there might be better DOS programs.
There might even be good packages that are free or shareware. Derive is
commercial.

Regards,

Laust
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The following is an extract from an earlier posting:

>From: Brian A McIlvaine <bamcilvaineUNO.COM>
=2E..
>2. I saw a thread regarding a good math package for use on the HP - I us=
e
>a product called (depending on what version you get) Calculus Calculator=

>or (X)Plore. You can get (X)Plore by going to www.shareware.com and quic=
k
>search on "calculus" - I found the cdrom.com site to work and got a more=

>recent version. Very powerful.  I have modeled several systems with this=

>package and been very pleased with the results.

I have used it and can recommend it. It can many of the things the HP-48
can do.


If you are willing to part with money for an even better package, have a
look at Derive, which is widely used for teaching math. Derive is far
more powerful than any other DOS package I have seen. Derive is also
available for Windows (I don't have it). I bought mine several years ago=

and do not remember the price.

Derive User Group has a very good newletter (which also cover TI-92 - a
large calculator with a built-in Derive): contact
josef.boehm@bboard.blackbox.at for further information. They have a
web-site at www.htlstp.ac.at/kunden/bhs/302418/BHAKSTP.HTM with files for=

download.

Jorgen
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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:24:53 +0100
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anborg wrote:

> I seem to remember a recent thread about the HP200LX IR port. I have
> just seen a tantalizing bit saying that there is software from HP to
> make that port IrDA compliant at least to the point of driving printers.
> Can anyone point me in the right direction to find it? I would
> appreciate it very much.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Art Borg
>

Try super!
Bas

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TeresaJ53 wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-01-05 07:07:54 EST, you write:
>
> <<
>  >>
> I loaded the cpack 2000 on the pc now what?  Where do I look for the dos apps?
> I've tried the .exe files but the error reads no TSR!!
>
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The APP200.BAT file will load the program.  From there it's menu driven.

JS

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 19:03:53 +0100
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Take a look at http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/
It seems that the DOS emulator will "run" on the wince machine in the
early 1998.
There are some interesting screenshot.
The question is: Should I buy the 620LX to get a maybe-slower-200lx ?
I think that HP calls its new machine 620lx 'cause it resemble the
machine we would like: hp260lx (do you remember?) :-((((

        Just my .000000002c
        Raffaele Gaioni

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A nice guy send me the OB6DSK.zip which should contain the HP PIM for
Windows.
My problems are:
        1- The zip file results to be corrupted.
        2- I haven't the adress or the name of the guy who
           gently send me the file.
Alternatively: Is there any place where I can download the file?

        Raffaele Gaioni

gaioni@cs.unibo.it

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From:         Neil Tungate <neil@SKIPPER.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: SUPER site and HV
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>Maybe most palmtoppers using WWW/LX have figured out that your site is
>useless to them, since they cannot download from it with HV, and stopped
>going to it?

Interestingly (to some of us anyway), I had a quick browse using Nettamer
and had no problems retrieving a file from the Super page. Considering =
that
this program tends to get slated by some, I rather think this shows that =
it
is actually rather well written :-)

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
Team 200LX UK
If replying by email, remove the final Z from my address

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:50:57 -0700
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              Gordon Stevens <GordonS@WFS.TWC.COM>
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> I recently bought a  Palm Pilot Pro as a companion of HP 200LX
>tried to convert the address book to Pilot without satisfaction.
>  I believe it is impossible to convert the data from one machine to the
>  other.  Can anyone suggest
>
I too bought a Palmpilot Pro.  I converted everything across with few
problems.  I used CSV ( comma seperated variable ) file format.

Procedure as I remember it:
1. Set up a smartcard in phonebook of 200 and print to a file.
  Put "," between each field so output file is almost CSV.
2. move file to PC.
3. edit file a little to get it into CSV format.
4. import it into the PalmPilot desktop software.

I have not bothered to fix the name problem.  Palmpilot has seperate
fields for last and first name.  I just moved Name ( 200 ) to Lastname
( pilot ).  A PERL script could parse the name field.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 19:53:30 +0100
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              peter <pewemo@CYBERCOMM.NL>
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Bas Pruijn wrote:

> I can get an 200lx. The comport however has some problem
> if you start on the upper row on the left with pin 1 and go to the
> right to
> pin 5:
>
> 1  2  3  4  5
> 6  7  8  9 10
>
> then both pin 3 and 4 are broken.
>
> Is this a problem for using any serial comm. (to pc or printer?)
>
>

Yes Bas this is a big problem

Pin 3 is Transmit Data , so serial data coming from the HP200LX
Pin 4 is Data Terminal ready, Handshake signal not always needed.

So my guess you can use it for receiving data, not for sending or
printing..... you have some repairing todo :)

Peter de Leng


> Bas
>
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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:32:01 -0500
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              Laurence Harvey <harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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              LINK
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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
>What I do is create a zero length com file called qb.com that refers to
>maxdos.com. In the sysmgr I then add the newly created .com file qb.com
>with the path/commandline "c:\icons\qb.com -d c:\qb qb.exe"
>This tells MaxDos to start qb, but the SysMgr thinks it is qb it is
>starting!

Following on from this suggestion, I have found an alternative method whi=
ch
allows the user to select any icon for an application as follows:

When installing an application in SysMgr, the user is only provided a
choice of three standard icons, or an icon of the same name as the progra=
m
being installed (if one exists in the same directory as the application
being installed). This is a nuisance when installing applications that lo=
ad
under MaxDos, as the SysMgr only allows the custom icon to be maxdos.icn =
in
the MaxDos directory. =


It is possible to set an icon to be different in name to the program it
runs by first installing a program having the same name as the custom ico=
n
file you wish to use (or use a dummy *.BAT as the initial program if
required), select the custom icon and then change the name of the program=

to the one required. The icon remains at the original  icon.

For example:
1) Create a directory called ICONS in which you place all your icons and
for each icon a matching empty batch file of the same name with the .BAT
extension
2) Enter Add application mode in SysMgr
3) Set path to point the the batch file having the same name as the icon
you wish to use
4) Select custom icon required
5) Reset path to the actual program you want to load - can be a MaxDos ty=
pe
command line
6) Exit Add application mode and SysMgr will show the custom icon
7) The dummy *.BAT can then be removed if required.

I'm not sure if this is a feature or a bug but it is useful.

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:32:07 -0500
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              Laurence Harvey <harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote in thread: Pointer to interesting shareware D=
OS
utility: LINK:

>What I do is create a zero length com file called qb.com that refers to
>maxdos.com. In the sysmgr I then add the newly created .com file qb.com
>with the path/commandline "c:\icons\qb.com -d c:\qb qb.exe"
>This tells MaxDos to start qb, but the SysMgr thinks it is qb it is
>starting!

Following on from this suggestion, I have found an alternative method whi=
ch
allows the user to select any icon for an application as follows:

When installing an application in SysMgr, the user is only provided a
choice of three standard icons, or an icon of the same name as the progra=
m
being installed (if one exists in the same directory as the application
being installed). This is a nuisance when installing applications that lo=
ad
under MaxDos, as the SysMgr only allows the custom icon to be maxdos.icn =
in
the MaxDos directory. =


It is possible to set an icon to be different in name to the program it
runs by first installing a program having the same name as the custom ico=
n
file you wish to use (or use a dummy *.BAT as the initial program if
required), select the custom icon and then change the name of the program=

to the one required. The icon remains at the original  icon.

For example:
1) Create a directory called ICONS in which you place all your icons and
for each icon a matching empty batch file of the same name with the .BAT
extension
2) Enter Add application mode in SysMgr
3) Set path to point the the batch file having the same name as the icon
you wish to use
4) Select custom icon required
5) Reset path to the actual program you want to load - can be a MaxDos ty=
pe
command line
6) Exit Add application mode and SysMgr will show the custom icon
7) The dummy *.BAT can then be removed if required.

I'm not sure if this is a feature or a bug but it is useful.

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:32:34 -0500
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              Laurence Harvey <harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>Can someone direct me to a tiny program to turn the port on, and another=

>to turn it off?

Use the SERCTL command built into the 200LX as follows:
SERCTL /O       Turns off power to active port
SERCTL /W       Turns on power to serial port
SERCTL /I               Turns on power to the IR port

It's amazing what you find when you read the 200LX manual - page 25-9

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:39:10 -0800
Reply-To:     Ron Zhang <Ron.Zhang@Ebay.Sun.COM>
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> By the way Notebook Supply Warehouse will do the installation for free if
> you send you 200LX to them. I would check to see if the memory card plug is
> installed on the motherboard before I sent my unit in because if the plug
> is there then the installation is easy for you to do.

 I have a 2MB unit with a serial # like SG610*****. Does anyone know if the connector is already in
place? Also, how detailed are the installation instructions(e.g., how to open the unit, etc.)? Thanks.


Ron

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:43:08 -0500
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              Laurence Harvey <harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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To all list members

Please ignore the last 2 messages sent by me, they are old messages poste=
d
some weeks ago which I accidentally re-posted and did not realise until
they had been sent.

Sorry

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:49:50 -0800
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From:         Bob Aldrich <robert@COLUMNIST.COM>
Subject:      No crack on my '94
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Hi Jorgen,

        It may be of use to you to know that I have two 1994 models and neither
of them has cracked. One of them is with a friend but the serial number
of the one I have here is SG44903809.

        Possibly they used better plastic on that run?

        Also, well done to HP for showing interest in what we users have to
say. Unusual in a large corporation! Hope it lasts! (And when is the
HP260LX coming out?)

        Bob Aldrich
        Los Angeles

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:34:23 -0600
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              Mary and Mike Kilpatrick <mikemary@MCIPNET.COM>
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I FedEx'd my 200 2Meg to NSW last Tuesday for the upgrade. I got it back
today with no upgrade and no note, so NSW is apparently out of business (at
least the upgrade part).

Mike

At 11:39 AM 1/5/98 -0800, Ron Zhang wrote:
>> By the way Notebook Supply Warehouse will do the installation for free if
>> you send you 200LX to them. I would check to see if the memory card plug is
>> installed on the motherboard before I sent my unit in because if the plug
>> is there then the installation is easy for you to do.
>
> I have a 2MB unit with a serial # like SG610*****. Does anyone know if
the connector is already in
>place? Also, how detailed are the installation instructions(e.g., how to
open the unit, etc.)? Thanks.
>
>
>Ron
>

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:37:26 -0600
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              "Steindorf, Eric" <estein@KCC.COM>
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I lost one of the rubber feet on the bottom of my 200LX and now that
screw is gone as well. Anyone have any suggestions as to where I might
find replacements?

(Learn from my mistake - If you're missing one of the plugs, stick
something in there to keep from loosing the case screw as well!)

-Eric

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:38:05 -0800
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try zipfix

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> From: Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: HP PIM on Windows
> Date: Monday, January 05, 1998 10:04 AM
>
> A nice guy send me the OB6DSK.zip which should contain the HP PIM for
> Windows.
> My problems are:
>         1- The zip file results to be corrupted.
>         2- I haven't the adress or the name of the guy who
>            gently send me the file.
> Alternatively: Is there any place where I can download the file?
>
>         Raffaele Gaioni
>
> gaioni@cs.unibo.it
>
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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 00:02:49 -1
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              Bas Pruijn <126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL>
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Comments: cc: gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT

On 1998-01-05 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >A nice guy send me the OB6DSK.zip which should contain the HP PIM
   >for Windows.
   >My problems are:
   >1- The zip file results to be corrupted.
   >2- I haven't the adress or the name of the guy who
   >gently send me the file.
   >Alternatively: Is there any place where I can download the file?
   >Raffaele Gaioni
   >gaioni@cs.unibo.it
You could try http://surf.to/pruijn/ob6dsk.zip
No Capitals. Good luck!
Bas Pruijn
Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:31:16 +2000
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              C P Wong <cpwong@TM.NET.MY>
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From:         C P Wong <cpwong@TM.NET.MY>
Subject:      Alternative to Nettamer

Dear fellow list readers,

Thought I let the list know that I have managed to successfully connect to
my ISP POP server with the DMail v2.2., download/send mails. Nothing
fancy but it works. Nettamer when compare to Dmail is definitely more
friendly to setup and use.

Nettamer works fine for me except for 2 grouses. One is the size (approx 300Kb) vs Dmail with all the
pkt drivers, etc (approx 130kb) and Dmail can do and read attachments
whereas Nettamer cannot?.

Space is a premium now that I have to shelf plan to upgrade my 3 yr old 200LX
2Mb model because of the stupid currency problem in Malaysia. Another point
to note is that Dmail is freeware and nettamer is shareware.

I use a combination of Batch file+netdial+epppd+dmail (wattcp ver) together
with (IBM and EigerLab) 14.4k pc card data/fax modems.

I find netdial superior to ppp as it can lots more w/o hassle and more
importantly (for me at least) works with my ISP whereas ppp.exe cannot.

I would be glad to share my customised e-mail package out if anybody's
interested esp. Malaysians + 200LX + wishing to do e-mailing with the palmtop.

Bye for now.

cp
**cpwong@tm.net.my**

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:36:04 EST
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              CSchlim <CSchlim@AOL.COM>
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Subject:      Info Select
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Does anyone know if Info Select will work on the HP200?   I have V2.0 and
would like to try it but when I put it on the comp. it wouldn't work.  Any
ideas???

Thanks!

Cathy

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:36:56 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
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Has anybody had any success running the Motorola Montana 28.8K PCMCIA modem
in the HP LX?

If anyone has a 28.8K PCMCIA modem running in their LX would you let me
know the make and model.

Thanks
KD

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Date:         Sun, 4 Jan 1998 19:17:30 -0500
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              Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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Is there a way to get rid of the icons (not just change them) on the datacard
of the Database, Phonebook, Notebook pages?  I'd like to use those few more
characters of real estate for actual data.

Thanks!

-- Terry

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:09:54 +0500
Reply-To:     Peter W <peterw@clark.net>
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From:         Peter W <peterw@CLARK.NET>
Subject:      Re: SUPER site and HV
Comments: cc: "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@palmtop.net>,
          "jsaklad@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU" <jsaklad@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU>
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On Sun, 4 Jan 1998 00:00:06 -0500, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>Date:    Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:31:19 -0500
>From:    Jim Saklad <jsaklad@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU>

>> > Are you aware of the fact that WWW/LX and HV cannot download files
from
>> > the SUPER site?

>As I say, the *script* runs, but the ftp *download* starts and aborts at 0
>bytes.

Does WWW/LX support anonymous ftp via ftp:// URL's? Have you seen any work
elsewhere? My first thought is to change the counting script so that WWW/LX
users get a very plain HTML page with a regular HREF=ftp://blah-blah-blah
link to follow, but it sounds like that may not work either... I really
hate all these browser incompatibilities, BTW

I really *would* like the site to be totally palmtop-usable (see what we've
done vis-a-vis pre-built currency update macros to accomodate HV and
NetTamer), but we're a bit in the dark here, unless D&A want to send me a
copy of WWW/LX  ;-)

-Peter


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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:22:52 +0800
Reply-To:     Chuck Locsin <chuck@surfshop.net.ph>
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Where can you get DMail v2.2?

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From: C P Wong <cpwong@TM.NET.MY>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, January 06, 1998 7:36 AM
Subject: Alternative to Nettamer


>Dear fellow list readers,
>
>Thought I let the list know that I have managed to successfully connect to
>my ISP POP server with the DMail v2.2., download/send mails. Nothing
>fancy but it works. Nettamer when compare to Dmail is definitely more
>friendly to setup and use.
>
>Nettamer works fine for me except for 2 grouses. One is the size (approx
300Kb) vs Dmail with all the
>pkt drivers, etc (approx 130kb) and Dmail can do and read attachments
>whereas Nettamer cannot?.
>
>Space is a premium now that I have to shelf plan to upgrade my 3 yr old
200LX
>2Mb model because of the stupid currency problem in Malaysia. Another point
>to note is that Dmail is freeware and nettamer is shareware.
>
>I use a combination of Batch file+netdial+epppd+dmail (wattcp ver) together
>with (IBM and EigerLab) 14.4k pc card data/fax modems.
>
>I find netdial superior to ppp as it can lots more w/o hassle and more
>importantly (for me at least) works with my ISP whereas ppp.exe cannot.
>
>I would be glad to share my customised e-mail package out if anybody's
>interested esp. Malaysians + 200LX + wishing to do e-mailing with the
palmtop.
>
>Bye for now.
>
>cp
>**cpwong@tm.net.my**
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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:18:11 -0500
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So now that Educalc and NSW are gone, are there any web pages with info on
the best places to get HPs and their peripherals? Specifically, i'm looking
for a 200LX AC adapter.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:32:00 -0500
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>From: Brian A McIlvaine <bamcilvaineUNO.COM>
...
>2. I saw a thread regarding a good math package for use on the HP - I use
>a product called (depending on what version you get) Calculus Calculator
>or (X)Plore. You can get (X)Plore by going to www.shareware.com and quick
>search on "calculus" - I found the cdrom.com site to work and got a more
>recent version. Very powerful.  I have modeled several systems with this
>package and been very pleased with the results.


Is the later version of (X)Plore you find version 4?
with the archive file name "cc4-9206.zip"?

This is the only version I can find on shareware.com and cdrom.com.

Thanks,
            Yi

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:37:32 -0800
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Mike Schiraldi wrote:
>
> So now that Educalc and NSW are gone, are there any web pages with info on
> the best places to get HPs and their peripherals? Specifically, i'm looking
> for a 200LX AC adapter.
>
        I was thinking of using a generic AC adapter for my 200LX, anyone know
of any reason why it might damage the 200LX? Also, I have one of those
HP Infrared pocket printers for the HP28/HP48 and I heard its AC adapter
will power either my 95LX or my 200LX without problem, has anyone tried
this? I would appreciate your feedback. Thanks for your time.

        Richard Bueker

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You can get it www.agate.net/~tvdog/internet.html


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd

    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:12:40 -0500
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Steindorf, Eric wrote:
>
> I lost one of the rubber feet on the bottom of my 200LX and now that
> screw is gone as well. Anyone have any suggestions as to where I might
> find replacements?
>
My suggestion. Go to a stationary store and buy a replacement rubber
(plastic) eraser. Be sure that you don't buy the kind that is death to
plastic materials. Cut of a length and put it into an electric drill
with the end sticking out that will go into the computer. With someone
else holding the drill down on the table and running the drill at a slow
speed, use an emery board such as women use on their finger nails to
reduce the diameter to the same size as a remaining foot. Then, turn it
around and let the other end stick out of the drill. perform the same
operation on the eraser making this end like the tapered end sticking
out of the computer. Messy and time consuming but shouldn't be difficult
or dangerous. Good luck

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:28:19 -0600
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Comments: To: CSchlim@AOL.COM

  > Does anyone know if Info Select will work on the HP200?   I have V2.0 and
  > would like to try it but when I put it on the comp. it wouldn't work.  Any
  > ideas???

Yes, it does...it's one of my most used programs.  What kind of problem are
you having with it and the palmtop?

--
Tom Hoover N5NTM <thoover@pobox.com> - http://pobox.com/~thoover
    - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:57:25 -0500
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On Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:18:11, Mike Schiraldi wrote:

> AC Adapters & Other such junk
>
> So now that Educalc and NSW are gone, are there any web pages with info
> on the best places to get HPs and their peripherals? Specifically, i'm
> looking for a 200LX AC adapter.

Well we still got:

Shier Systems & Software. Inc.
Phone: 805-371-9391
Fax:   805-371-9484
http://www.shier.com
To receive latest pricing sheet, email your requerst to:
pricing@shier.com






Regards,

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hp 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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If you're reference is to Dmail, its not there or any of its
obvious links.  Nice site, though.

Jeff wrote:

> You can get it www.agate.net/~tvdog/internet.html
>
> 73 de KF4KGQ
> Jeff Johns
> jeffj@scott.net
> Reserve Captain
> Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
> Birmingham, Alabama USA
> http://www.bham.net/jcsd
>
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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 02:54:26 -0500
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In his first missive, Frank G. Pratt wrote:

>>Anyway, the Intellisync version for the HP seems to put things
in the wrong places, adds entries when it shouldn't and a myriad
of other problems.<<

and in his second:

>>Well, since I have received only one response to my previous plea
for help, and that response was based on an erroneous assumption; I
guess that I should repeat it before I bail out of this forum that fills
my mailbox with 10 or 20 useless items each day.<<

>>I am trying to use Intellilink from PUMA Software to sync the Phone
Book in my HP-200LX with Daytimer-98. Since they produced the program,
one would think that PUMA would have the answer; however, PUMA's support
is worthless.<<

Well, Frank, if you're still with us, you might not like this any better,=

but here goes:

1. You were right the first time: if you have separate programs for each
handheld, you're using Intellisync. Intellilink (now also sold by Puma,
but not promoted) is a more powerful program that can link with various
handhelds.

2. The response you received from this list was correct as far as it
went: if the fields are not matched properly (see "Field Mapping"), all
hell breaks loose. It's entirely possible that the default mapping is
better for the Pilot than the HP.

3. The records from the palmtop and desktop files are compared on
a "Key Field". If the data in this field are changed, or if you alter the=

mapping such that the key fields in each database are not longer
mapped to each other, you'll end up with duplicate records. As far as
I could tell when I tried the software, a) the key field is not identifie=
d,
and b) you cannot alter the selection of the key field.

4. If you do all of your data entry on one system (either the desktop
or the HP), set up the transfer so that it is import or export (as
applicable), rather than "synchronize". When I tried Intellisync with
Ecco Pro, I had trouble with two-way transfers, but one way transfers
worked properly--after I spent a _lot_ of time setting it up and testing
it.

All-in-all, I found Intellilink more useful, if a bit less "automatic".
Neither
worked without substantial tweaking. (I'm _not_ suggesting that you
spend even more money on this; Intellilink isn't that much better and
it's even more dated.)

Obviously, I don't have the answer, but I suspect that you're seeing a
field mapping or key field problem. Whether attempting to find a solution=

is worth your ongoing effort (and frustration) is another issue
altogether...

S.Todd

PS If you stay with us, try the digest option; at least you only get one
big e-mail and can quickly skim past the stuff that doesn't interest you.=

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 02:54:24 -0500
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Consuel Ionica and bobv@SOS.NET asked about foreign language dictionaries=
=2E

Collins UK has an English dictionary and two multi-language dictionaries
(one
editable) that run on the HP. According to The HP Palmtop Paper (Letters,=

May/June 96), the English dictionary requires 9.9MB, and the multi-langua=
ge
dictionaries approximately 1.5 MB each (this estimate might not include a=
ll
languages). Each program is currently 25.52 Br. Pounds plus shipping.

Check:

http://www.rhcc.co.uk

or e-mail

rhcc@compuserve.com

The text from The HP Palmtop paper may be available at:

http://www.thaddeus.com

S.Todd

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Intellilink does show the key field when you are mapping.  It has an
asterisk against it in the map - it seems to be the 'description' field for
the LX.

I use it (Intellilink Plus 1.7 for Schedule+ 7.0) with Schedule+ 7.0, it
works mostly.   I do use the synchronize option - no choice really as I get
items arriving in SCH+ by email from Outlook and Exchange, but I tend to
enter my own events first on the LX.  The bits that go wrong are:

I get many prompts when reconciling due to the LX and SCH+ having different
default times for 'notify me n minutes beforehand' - one is 5, the other 15.
I guess if I bothered I could fix this.

There is no concept of a private appointment on the LX, so you may have to
go to SCH+ and make things private after bringing them across.

The field lengths are different - most often I write a location too long on
SCH+, so it gets truncated on going to the LX.  Then when I next synch it
thinks they are different, so I just have to tell it to ignore the
difference.

I can't get ToDo items to work at all - Intellilink gets an internal error.
I've tried with a virtually empty .ADB file, but anything that causes it to
try to ADD a new entry to schedule+ causes this error.  I think it's trying
to set an attribute that does not exist.   It's happy to export these to the
LX, but you can't do any import operation.  So you can't update or add a
ToDo on the LX and get it into SCH+, which is naff.

I'd be interested if anyone with the same setup does not get these problems,
especially the ToDo one.  An of course I'm desperate for a version that
supports Outlook Calendar.  It seems weird that Puma, who have a product
with all the back-end to communicate with the LX and synch against loads of
PDAs, and have a fron-end that can synch Outlook Calandar against the Palm
Pilot, can't just glue the two together and sell them to a grateful world.
Maybe they are worried that if they had a good product Micro$oft would buy
them and sink it.

William D.Ll.Brown

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:56:15 +0100
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Good news:

I have access to a miniature backlight kit:

Consumption: 5V 50mA
Size:        10x20x2 mm (estimate)
Foil:        yellow - 130x50 mm
Price:       I do not know yet (definitely less than 49 USD)

Available:              February 1998
Tested in HP 200:       No

If there are more that 5 people interested I will setup a Web
site with more details.

Please e-mail me, if interested

Sincerely

JS
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Comments: To: Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>

I have a 360LX and I use the US Robotics Sportster modem.  It works flawlessly.

Gray

----Original Message-----
   >From:       Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
   >To:         HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
   >Subject:            Motorola Montana
   >Reply-To:           HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
   >Date:       Monday, January 05, 1998 6:36 p.m.
   >
   >Has anybody had any success running the Motorola Montana 28.8K PCMCIA modem
   >in the HP LX?
   >
   >If anyone has a 28.8K PCMCIA modem running in their LX would you let me
   >know the make and model.
   >
   >Thanks
   >KD
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Mark Schiraldi wrote:

> So now that Educalc and NSW are gone, are there any web pages with info on
> the best places to get HPs and their peripherals? Specifically, i'm looking
> for a 200LX AC adapter.

I have had god luck purchasing HP units and accessories from Your One
Stop Palmtop Shop in Janesville, WI.  Prices are generally good although
I noticed they are really out of the ball park on Sandisk CompactFlash
memory.

Joe Casey

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:30:36 +0100
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              Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT>
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I would like to thank everyone
who send me the HP PIM and also
the one who made it available on his WWW site.
Nice people on this list :-)


Raffaele Gaioni

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              Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT>
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Are there any abandonware sites at this time?
The ones I know results to be unreachable.

        TNX
        Raffaele Gaioni

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My HP200LX has developed a display problem. There are a few
of rows of dots missing down the left hand side of the screen.
They pass right through the "A" in Appt. Book and wipe out
the charcters straight down the screen.

I had the memory upgrade done by Educalc (with their, now
worthless, warranty). So, I can't send it in to HP to get it
fixed.

Any advice?

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              Chong Chneah <chneah@CYBERWAY.COM.SG>
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I had enjoyed your publication for a long time but lately your publication
had been wanting.

It was delayed the last issue with WinCE emphasis and this month I received
a copy which was dated Nov/Dec 1996 with the main article "HP announce new
WindowCE based palmtops..coming in mid 1997"

Please do not leave me with a bad impression when I stop subscribing when
my current subscription ends.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:05:03 -0500
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              "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
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I have a spare HP200LX power supply if anyone is interested Please
e-mail me direct.  I also have an extra 16meg pccard.

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Casey SMTP:caseyjl@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 1998 07:18
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: AC Adapters & Other such junk
>
> Mark Schiraldi wrote:
>
> > So now that Educalc and NSW are gone, are there any web pages with
> info on
> > the best places to get HPs and their peripherals? Specifically, i'm
> looking
> > for a 200LX AC adapter.
>
> I have had god luck purchasing HP units and accessories from Your One
> Stop Palmtop Shop in Janesville, WI.  Prices are generally good
> although
> I noticed they are really out of the ball park on Sandisk CompactFlash
> memory.
>
> Joe Casey << File: ATT00129.htm >>

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:25:03 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Dick Schroeder wrote:

> My HP200LX has developed a display problem. There are a few
> of rows of dots missing down the left hand side of the screen.
> They pass right through the "A" in Appt. Book and wipe out
> the charcters straight down the screen.
>
> I had the memory upgrade done by Educalc (with their, now
> worthless, warranty). So, I can't send it in to HP to get it
> fixed.
>
> Any advice?

A couple of others in this group can probably recommend some simple things
to try (ie, pressing on select parts of the screen) and some not so simple
(disassembly).

Another suggestion would be to email Mack Baggette of Times2tech
(Educalc's former competition). His web page at http://www.times2tech.com
lists a repair fee ($75-$150), but this may be dependent on the
availability of parts.

Tough luck.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:25:59 EST
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              "Daniel Z. Sands" <dsands@BIDMC.HARVARD.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: Info Select
Comments: To: CSchlim <CSchlim@AOL.COM>

Text of message from CSchlim@AOL.COM, 5 Jan 1998, 06:36 PM
> Does anyone know if Info Select will work on the HP200?   I have V2.0
> and would like to try it but when I put it on the comp. it wouldn't
> work.  Any ideas???

The DOS versions work fine.  Remember to run in non-TSR mode to save
memory.  IS n is the way to use like this.  I use MaxDOS because of the
memory requirements.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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              "Phenix,Bryan PYR" <Bryan.Phenix@EC.GC.CA>
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Anyone running a Motorola Montana 33.6 ?

>----------
>From:  Grayson WilliamsSMTP:graywilliams@EARTHLINK.NET
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>Sent:  January 5, 1998 6:50 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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>
>I have a 360LX and I use the US Robotics Sportster modem.  It works
>flawlessly.
>
>Gray
>
>----Original Message-----
>   >From:       Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
>   >To:         HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>   >Subject:            Motorola Montana
>   >Reply-To:           HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,Karl
>DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
>   >Date:       Monday, January 05, 1998 6:36 p.m.
>   >
>   >Has anybody had any success running the Motorola Montana 28.8K PCMCIA
>modem
>   >in the HP LX?
>   >
>   >If anyone has a 28.8K PCMCIA modem running in their LX would you let me
>   >know the make and model.
>   >
>   >Thanks
>   >KD
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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 08:20:45 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Richard C. Schroeder wrote:

> In your message you wrote:
> >
> >Another suggestion would be to email Mack Baggette of Times2tech
> >(Educalc's former competition). His web page at http://www.times2tech.com
> >lists a repair fee ($75-$150), but this may be dependent on the
> >availability of parts.

> I have tried to find this Web page, without luck. Is this the correct
> spelling?

I cut and pasted the above web address onto my browser and connected OK
just now.

- Longden

PS. Mack's email address is mack@times2tech.com

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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:12:33 +0000
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Well, I found yet another use for my HP200lx.

I just moved from home back to college after the winter break, and
left my external modem power supply at home! (ARGGG No net access!)

Luckily, I was able to use a computer in a lab a college to pull
several different communication programs off of the net, and found one
that would let my desktop talk to my 9600 modem in my palmtop.  So,
my HP200lx is sitting above my computer, with an AC line, a phone
line, and the serial cable plugged into it, acting as my modem.

The software, comchk18.zip, is a RS232 line analyzed, and it shows
everything that goes over the serial connection, which I am sure
would be useful if you had to debug some modem comunications
problem. I found it at oak.oakland.edu in the simtell mirror, under
msdos IO utils.

Jay

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 02:59:49 +1400
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              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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Comments: cc: pseyer@BEST.COM

On 1997-12-18 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
 HP>And if you are a true macro lover, you might want to consider
 HP>EasyShare which is a super macro program that can
 HP>watch the screen, scrape the screen, read files, readfiles,
 HP>control Mainframes etc.
Well, I downloaded Easyshare but do not find it easy to start. There is no
tutorial and even after I started reading the index.htm file I did not
understand enough to let it run. Could somebody help me out with an easy
start? Some simple instructions to do some simple things, first on my
desktop, after wards on my HP100LX. Would be highly appreciated.


Don't believe everything you hear or anything you say.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:29:02 +0200
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              Vasilis Tzimis <nm92011@CENTRAL.NTUA.GR>
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What is laplink ?
Is it useful?

thank you
vasilis tzimis

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:41:16 +0100
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Have you tried to synch LX with the Outlook contacts folder? Does this one
work? I'm desperately looking for a possibility to synch this two packages.
If at least the Contacts could be synched it would be good if not great.

Regards
Juerg Duerig

On Tuesday, January 06, 1998 11:26, Brown, William
SMTP:wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK wrote:
> Intellilink does show the key field when you are mapping.  It has an
> asterisk against it in the map - it seems to be the 'description' field
for
> the LX.
>
> I use it (Intellilink Plus 1.7 for Schedule+ 7.0) with Schedule+ 7.0, it
> works mostly.   I do use the synchronize option - no choice really as I
get
> items arriving in SCH+ by email from Outlook and Exchange, but I tend to
> enter my own events first on the LX.  The bits that go wrong are:
>
> I get many prompts when reconciling due to the LX and SCH+ having
different
> default times for 'notify me n minutes beforehand' - one is 5, the other
15.
> I guess if I bothered I could fix this.
>
> There is no concept of a private appointment on the LX, so you may have
to
> go to SCH+ and make things private after bringing them across.
>
> The field lengths are different - most often I write a location too long
on
> SCH+, so it gets truncated on going to the LX.  Then when I next synch it
> thinks they are different, so I just have to tell it to ignore the
> difference.
>
> I can't get ToDo items to work at all - Intellilink gets an internal
error.
> I've tried with a virtually empty .ADB file, but anything that causes it
to
> try to ADD a new entry to schedule+ causes this error.  I think it's
trying
> to set an attribute that does not exist.   It's happy to export these to
the
> LX, but you can't do any import operation.  So you can't update or add a
> ToDo on the LX and get it into SCH+, which is naff.
>
> I'd be interested if anyone with the same setup does not get these
problems,
> especially the ToDo one.  An of course I'm desperate for a version that
> supports Outlook Calendar.  It seems weird that Puma, who have a product
> with all the back-end to communicate with the LX and synch against loads
of
> PDAs, and have a fron-end that can synch Outlook Calandar against the
Palm
> Pilot, can't just glue the two together and sell them to a grateful
world.
> Maybe they are worried that if they had a good product Micro$oft would
buy
> them and sink it.
>
> William D.Ll.Brown
>
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Mike Schiraldi wrote:
>
> So now that Educalc and NSW are gone, are there any web pages with info on
> the best places to get HPs and their peripherals? Specifically, i'm looking
> for a 200LX AC adapter.
>
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FOR SALE:       HP accessories for 200/100 LX palmtops

     * HP 200LX, 2MB, box & manuals
            mint condition              selling $275
     * my brother have an 200LX, 6MB for sale.
            I have to ask him for price
            (it is probably around ~$500)
     * HP 200/100 wireless PalmStation
            to communicate wireless on
            the road over long distance. Selling $400 (orig $1,500)
     * PCMCIA type II to type III converter for HP palmtops
            This allow you to use type III PCMCIA devices (HD,
etc...)in             the type II PCMCIA slots in the HP200LX or
HP100LX.
            selling $70  (orig $100)
     * PCMCIA HD 170 MB type III (brand-new still in box)
            selling $100 (orig $350)
     * To keep your PC & Palmtop in Sync! Windows 95 compatible.
       HP IntelliSync connectivity kit (serial transfer cable included)
                by PUMA Technology.     selling $35 (orig. $95)
     * AC adapter                       selling $30
     * Serial cable                     selling $25
     * Serial to Paraller converter
        (the good kind, does not need battery)  $50-$70
     * HP palmtops plastic tray         selling $10
     * HP 200LX manuals                 selling $20
          100LX manuals                 selling $15
     * Windows 3.0                      selling $20
     * AceFax                           selling $35
     * HP leather case & bag            selling $10-50

If you're interested in any of the above, please send me e-mail
at zot2u@earthlink.net
Serious inquiries only. Thanks

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:31:34 -0500
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              Laurence Harvey <harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Richard Bueker wrote:
> I was thinking of using a generic AC adapter for my 200LX, anyone know
> of any reason why it might damage the 200LX?

There is no problem using a generic adaptor in my experience, I have done=

so for over a year now. Just make sure you use an adaptor with a DC outpu=
t
of 12V and capable of supplying at least 750mA. One other thing to check =
-
the polarity of the connector that plugs into the palmtop must have
positive on the outer sleeve and negative on  the inner.

Laurence Harvey

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Steindorf, Eric wrote:
>
> I lost one of the rubber feet on the bottom of my 200LX and now that
> screw is gone as well. Anyone have any suggestions as to where I might
> find replacements?
>
> (Learn from my mistake - If you're missing one of the plugs, stick
> something in there to keep from loosing the case screw as well!)
>
> -Eric
>
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What you need is the LX repair kit, except that I don't think that is
the official name for it and I can't remember how I ordered it.  It
comes with 8 rubber feet and the screws and some other replacement parts
like end caps, infared covers, battery covers, etc.  I think it's about
$20 incl. shipping. Worth it. Check the Hewlett-Packard site.

JS

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:48:40 -0800
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On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Laurence Harvey wrote:

> Richard Bueker wrote:
> > I was thinking of using a generic AC adapter for my 200LX, anyone know
> > of any reason why it might damage the 200LX?
>
> There is no problem using a generic adaptor in my experience, I have done
> so for over a year now. Just make sure you use an adaptor with a DC output
> of 12V and capable of supplying at least 750mA. One other thing to check -
> the polarity of the connector that plugs into the palmtop must have
> positive on the outer sleeve and negative on  the inner.

The 750mA minimum may be a bit high (probably to be on the safe side).
I've used RadioShack's 12v, 500mA charger for over a year without a hitch.
The RS charger is mentioned in the FAQ (RS part number is 273-1652D).

I've got rechargable batteries and have run the LX in charging mode while
driving a PCMCIA modem at the same time on this charger.

OTOH, I know 750mA is what HP recommends.

- Longden

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On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Jim Smith wrote:

> Steindorf, Eric wrote:
> > I lost one of the rubber feet on the bottom of my 200LX and now that
> > screw is gone as well. Anyone have any suggestions as to where I might
> > find replacements?
>
> What you need is the LX repair kit, except that I don't think that is
> the official name for it and I can't remember how I ordered it.  It
> comes with 8 rubber feet and the screws and some other replacement parts
> like end caps, infared covers, battery covers, etc.  I think it's about
> $20 incl. shipping. Worth it. Check the Hewlett-Packard site.

Since our sources are drying up, I'll repeat the info here for others
(info was good July of last year).

The kit mentioned is the Palmtop Maintenance Kit, part #F1216-60998, $20
(plus whatever shipping).

includes 2 of each:
- battery covers
- IR cover
- backup battery tray
- engraving plate
plus:
- set of hinge caps
- rubber feet
- screws for base

Call HP Direct Order Dept. at 800-227-8164

- Longden

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<html><div>Two new files added to the &quot;Some Files&quot;&nbsp; link at the
page.</div>
<BR>
<x-html><dl>---- <BR>
</dl><A HREF="http://comports.com/hplx">http://comports.com/hplx</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;--old stuff is new...</x-html>

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:53:23 -0500
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>Is the later version of (X)Plore you find version 4?
>with the archive file name "cc4-9206.zip"?

The only one I found is the version dated 1993 (don't know the version
number). There should be a later version according to Brian but I couldn'=
t
find it. I would be interested if you find a later version. XPL is nice a=
nd
fast!

Jorgen
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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:48:22 -0800
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              Larry Soo <lhsoo@OFF-ROAD.COM>
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I've got a 100LX 1MB and am looking for something with enough onboard
memory to be able to use in conjunction with a cheap, PCMCIA modem.  So...I
figure I can get by with an extra 1MB onboard.

I've come across a 100LX with 2MB on board but I'm wondering: will this
unit be upgradable to 6MB or 8MB later on, when I can afford the upgrade?
Will it have the socket onboard so I can just plug in a higher capacity RAM
board or will soldering be required?

For that matter, did HP ever sell 100LXs with 2MB?

Also, are there any inherent advantages to having the 200 over the 100?
Specifically:

1. Is the COMM program in the 200 less clunky than the 100?  I recall that it
   pauses quite often at speeds above 2400 baud.
2. Is the search function in the database apps faster on the 200?

I know that the 200 comes with Quicken & Laplink but I think I can do
without although it'd be nice to have these two apps, especially since I
don't ever use CCMail.

Pls cc: replies to my email as I'm trying to make a quick decision.  Thx.

...lars (lhsoo@off-road.com)

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:52:25 -0500
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              Francois Ennesser <100774.3617@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Happy new year to everybody on the list!

To all you guys who have to slow down your typing for the display to keep up,
you sure know that adding the line

"mode con:rate=32 delay=1"

to your AUTOEXEC.BAT might improve things, don't you? The "normal" Microsoft
default has been carefully chosen to make you less efficient, as always!


Francois in Paris

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:00:30 -0500
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>The DataComm application is faster in the 200LX. It can pretty much
>keep up with a 9600 or 14.4 modem.  The painfully slow DataComm
>application was a notorious deficiency in the 100LX, so this is a
>welcome fix.

This is from the 100/200 FAQ which you should read before investing in
another 100lx. There is a section about the differences. =


I think the faq can be found on www.super.com, otherwise email me and I
will send it. =


Jorgen

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:06:37 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Can someone tell me where I can find SMMx (for use with MoreExm)?

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:50:44 -0800
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From:         Richard Bueker <bueker@SONOMA.EDU>
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I am interested in your 16 meg card, I assume it works in a HP200LX. I
was wondering how much you want for it.

        thanks,
                Richard Bueker

Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:
>
> I have a spare HP200LX power supply if anyone is interested Please
> e-mail me direct.  I also have an extra 16meg pccard.
>
> Stephen Souza
> mailto:ssouza@iname.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joseph Casey SMTP:caseyjl@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 1998 07:18
> > To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject:      Re: AC Adapters & Other such junk
> >
> > Mark Schiraldi wrote:
> >
> > > So now that Educalc and NSW are gone, are there any web pages with
> > info on
> > > the best places to get HPs and their peripherals? Specifically, i'm
> > looking
> > > for a 200LX AC adapter.
> >
> > I have had god luck purchasing HP units and accessories from Your One
> > Stop Palmtop Shop in Janesville, WI.  Prices are generally good
> > although
> > I noticed they are really out of the ball park on Sandisk CompactFlash
> > memory.
> >
> > Joe Casey << File: ATT00129.htm >>
>
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:01:39 +1100
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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> Happy new year to everybody on the list!
Me, too!

> To all you guys who have to slow down your typing for the display to keep up,
> you sure know that adding the line
>
> "mode con:rate=32 delay=1"
>
> to your AUTOEXEC.BAT might improve things, don't you? The "normal" Microsoft
> default has been carefully chosen to make you less efficient, as always!

Thanks for this! I also note that it slows down the longer the line is,
suggesting it processes the entire line each time very inefficient!*

Brendan in Melbourne


--
Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren         Occam's razor melody composition
"I get knocked down But I get up again You're never going to keep me down"
* though this might be due to various TSR programs I have installed...

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Date:         Tue, 6 Jan 1998 22:48:37 EST
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              Eddiebabes <Eddiebabes@AOL.COM>
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I'm already running Excel 2.sumthin and am happy with it. I would like to try
Word.

Let me know, thanks.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:40:51 +0800
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              Catherine Vung <cathv@SRIKOM.COM.MY>
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Here is the site you can look at that sells backlight for palmtop:

http://www.palmtop.net/light.html


> ----------
> From:         Port-HomeSMTP:mail@PORT-HOME.COM
> Reply To:     mail@port-home.com
> Sent:         05 January 1998 16:56
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Backlight for paltomps
>
> Good news:
>
> I have access to a miniature backlight kit:
>
> Consumption: 5V 50mA
> Size:        10x20x2 mm (estimate)
> Foil:        yellow - 130x50 mm
> Price:       I do not know yet (definitely less than 49 USD)
>
> Available:              February 1998
> Tested in HP 200:       No
>
> If there are more that 5 people interested I will setup a Web
> site with more details.
>
> Please e-mail me, if interested
>
> Sincerely
>
> JS
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
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>  Portfolio Praha                      phone/fax + 420 2 691 11 63
>  Support Center for Mobile Devices
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 02:15:00 -0600
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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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Hello.
I'm not sure what you need the calculator to do, but there is an
LX-specific calculator program called Ex which looks like it has quite a
few functions.  I don't use it myself; I have pretty simple needs, or I
use Lotus for more complicated things.  It is shareware, and you can check
it out at:
http://www.freeflight.com/wrotniak/ex.html

J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 02:21:03 -0600
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>Each time I reboot my HP200, I lose my system macros, and have to reload
>them throught the system macro program. Is there a way I can automate
>this in my autoexec.bat?

If you use Buddy (v3.0), it can auto-load a macro file on startup.  Buddy
does LOTS of other stuff, too.
The tradeoff is that it uses a good bit of memory and isn't free ($40
shareware).  However, I have gotten to rely on it so much that I can't
imagine being without it.  In my opinion, it's easily worth both the
memory and money.  You can check it out at:
http://www.buddy.com

Cheers.
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:39:16 +0100
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              Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT>
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              98 05:40:57 pm
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Tnx a lot!

Raffaele Gaioni
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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:45:16 -0000
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No I've not tried to synch the Outlook contacts.  I don't think it would be
hard to do a one-off load, using either a comma-separated file (CSV) or
going via Schedule+.  For the latter I could in principle use a SCH+ .SCD
file as the 'master', and just have the Outlook contacts as a clone, by
using Outlook's Import capabilty.  Then I could go on using Intellilink...

Frankly I don't use the contacts on the desktop at all, there are too many
different places it keeps this kind of information for it to be useable in
applications.  I'd want it to dial the phone, address my Xmas cards etc ;-)
I just use the LX, it's always with me.

For a one-off I'd use CSV as you can edit the file to make sure it is all
consistent before loading it.  I did that when I migrated my contacts from
the previous PDA (a Sharp IQ-8200).

Of course if anyone did produce a proper synchronisation tool for Outlook, I
might do different.

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Vasilis Tzimis wrote:
>
> What is laplink ?
> Is it useful?
>
> thank you
> vasilis tzimis
>
Laplink is a package of both hardware and software. The software allows
a second computer to appear as a set of disk drives of the host
computer. You can then transfer, copy, send, receive files from one
machine to the other.

The hardware consists of a serial cable with a built in null modem and
also parallel cable so as to provide the hardware for these transfers.
If you have two or more computers it is quite useful. Of course the HP
palmtops do not have a parallel printer port and so we must use the
serial cable.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:44:19 -0500
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I am certain that this is really off topic but I would like to share
this with everyone.

Several years ago, I spent an evening in the emergency room of a big
hospital in this city. In a Chinese hospital that usually means one big
room with over a hundred beds with only the most minimal screens around
a few beds. While I was there, an old gentleman was brought in to the
bed next to mine who looked like his life was now history. However, the
staff brought in a very complex machine which allowed the doctor to view
the actions of the heart and this in combination with a very
sophisticated defibrillator allowed the doctor to restore the patients
heart beat and within a short time, he was breathing on his own and
looked like he was well on the way to another day. The whole setup was
made by HP.

Recently HP had an ad in Fortune magazine where they showed a man
playing with a small child. The text said that this man had earlier that
day been using one of their machines to save someone's life. That ad
touched me like no advertisement I can remember seeing. I sent HP an
E-Mail telling in more detail the story above. Ultimately, I got a very
nice letter from the advertising agency.

Today, my doctor suggested some sort of heart test to see if some
missing or misplaced beats were significant. I went in for the test this
afternoon and low and behold, It was the same sort of ultrasonic chest
scan apparatus that I had seen earlier. As the doctor moved this
ultrasonic probe around on my chest, he was describing to another doctor
just what he was seeing. When he got done, he said that as far as he
could see there was no problem with my heart and he had a printed copy
of some of the various pictures to give to the my doctor.

There has been a lot of discussion about HP and some of the people seem
to be upset about HP seemingly becoming attached to WinCE machines. I
will also be sorry if the DOS machines are no longer sold. However, it
is not the company that is good or bad, it is the people that make up
the company and I think that HP passes the test.

Best regards and Happy New Year,

Art Borg

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:56:25 +0200
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Is it worth buying?





anborg wrote:

> Vasilis Tzimis wrote:
> >
> > What is laplink ?
> > Is it useful?
> >
> > thank you
> > vasilis tzimis
> >
> Laplink is a package of both hardware and software. The software allows
> a second computer to appear as a set of disk drives of the host
> computer. You can then transfer, copy, send, receive files from one
> machine to the other.
>
> The hardware consists of a serial cable with a built in null modem and
> also parallel cable so as to provide the hardware for these transfers.
> If you have two or more computers it is quite useful. Of course the HP
> palmtops do not have a parallel printer port and so we must use the
> serial cable.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Art Borg

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:18:56 -1
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Subject:      synchronizing

I have a simple question, but can't find out how to do this *really* simple.

I want to synchronise 2 hp200lx's (their appts en phone-database) using the
IR port. Can this easily be done?

Bas

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:19:03 -1
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Subject:      bootcon

Sometime ago there were some questions on how to avoid the 200lx looking on
the flashdisk, if there is no disk in the slot. This util does something a
little different, but is also usefull for the problem above.

bootcon:
     this util alows you to have a muliple config.sys/autoexec.bat settings.
     It pops up a menu at the beginning of the boot process
     Up to ~100 configurations possible (for whoever wants that)
     Unfortunally it is commercial software. Price differs some (~$50-100)

Is anyone familiar with this program? which version are you using?

PS:  I was downloading a version of bootcon yesterday, but my connection
went down. I don't remember where I was downloading from. I will try to find
it ASAP (if there is some interest in it)

Bas Pruijn

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:19:10 -1
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Subject:      sandisk dead???

Sometime ago I asked about a dead sandisk (HP) flashcard of 5Mb. The advise
I have gotten is to use fdisk100 on the 200lx. When I try this, the pgm says

"fdisk is not needed for card in slot A:"

An other suggestion was: use format in the 200 lx. This gives:
first I get:
"insert a new disk for drive A:  press ENTER when ready..."

but when I press ENTER I get:
"Format not supported on drive A:   Format Terminated"

Are there any suggestions left?

Bas Pruijn

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:15:20 -0500
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Bas Pruijn wrote:
>
> Sometime ago I asked about a dead sandisk (HP) flashcard of 5Mb. The advise
> I have gotten is to use fdisk100 on the 200lx. When I try this, the pgm says
>
> "fdisk is not needed for card in slot A:"
>
> An other suggestion was: use format in the 200 lx. This gives:
> first I get:
> "insert a new disk for drive A:  press ENTER when ready..."
>
> but when I press ENTER I get:
> "Format not supported on drive A:   Format Terminated"
>
> Are there any suggestions left?
>
If you or a friend has a PC with a PCMCIA slot, you might try puttind
the flashcard in that computer and see first, can the other computer
read the card, then try formatting it. Good luck.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:33:07 EST
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Subject:      OUTLOOK Appointment conversion utility

Thanks to everyone who responded asking for a copy of the utility. I have
uploaded a copy of the utility APPTMAKR.ZIP  to SUPER and they confirmed
they have received it. They said it will be up on the board today
(1/7/98).

Now the BAD NEWS: It currently works only on the HP-100. I encourage
HP-200 users to try it, but when I tried it on my machine, I got a
"Record Not Found" error on a merged file that successfully loaded into
the HP-100. I am working on the problem, but right now I do not know what
the record type that the HP-200 is looking for and not finding. My ROM
versions are:

HP-100: version 1.02 A
HP-200: version 1,01 A

I am sorry to let the 200 users down out there, and will let you know
when and if I get it working on the 200!

Good luck!
Brian McIlvaine

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 06:22:13 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Backlight for paltomps
Comments: To: Catherine Vung <cathv@SRIKOM.COM.MY>
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On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Catherine Vung wrote:

> Here is the site you can look at that sells backlight for palmtop:
>
> http://www.palmtop.net/light.html

The light mentioned above is an accessory clip-on light, not a backlight.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 06:37:20 PST
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Subject:      95LX Tiger Fox game -> 200LX ??

In the JPICONS2.ZIP file a 95LX EXM hidden game called Tiger Fox is
mentioned.  Because it is described as hidden I assume this is a
built in game in the 95's ROM?

Will this game run on a 200LX?  If yes, does anyone with a 95 want to
send me a copy to try?

I'm always looking for new games; you can never have too many games...
Russ

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 06:48:04 -0800
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Subject:      Re: What is Lap Link?
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On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Vasilis Tzimis wrote:
> Is it worth buying?
>
> anborg wrote:
> > Laplink is a package of both hardware and software. The software allows
> > a second computer to appear as a set of disk drives of the host
> > computer. You can then transfer, copy, send, receive files from one
> > machine to the other.

If you have an HP200, then you already have Laplink. The FAQ explains how
to do the setup. All that's needed is the serial cable for the HP (which
sells for about $25).

I use interlnk/intersvr myself (which works somewhat the same way) which
came with my DOS 6.x system, tho I've loaded Laplink before for kicks.
They work about the same...each has minor perks and faults.

- Longden

PS - If you don't own an HP200...I know I haven't answered your question.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:40:18 -0700
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Greetings list members,

I have an odd trouble with my 200LX. In the
NoteTaker application, I can no longer enter a
CATEGORY name. In particular, I can type a new
category name, but when advancing to another
field, or pressing <enter>, the category field
clears itself.

I am able to select from among the existing list
of categories, and new category names will
*occasionally* be accepted if the new name is 3
characters or less.

I have fiddled with the ADVANCED memory
allocations from the SETUP application, but have
not achieved any consistent fix to this condition.

Has anyone on the list experienced a similar
condition, and achieved a fix? Any help will be
very much appreciated.

_don

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:03:16 -0800
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On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Donald J. Winiecki wrote:

> I have an odd trouble with my 200LX. In the
> NoteTaker application, I can no longer enter a
> CATEGORY name. In particular, I can type a new
> category name, but when advancing to another
> field, or pressing <enter>, the category field
> clears itself.
>
> I am able to select from among the existing list
> of categories, and new category names will
> *occasionally* be accepted if the new name is 3
> characters or less.
>
> I have fiddled with the ADVANCED memory
> allocations from the SETUP application, but have
> not achieved any consistent fix to this condition.
>
> Has anyone on the list experienced a similar
> condition, and achieved a fix? Any help will be
> very much appreciated.

Pg. 8-2 of the 200LX manual says the Category field is limited to 32
categories OR 255 characters. Sounds like you've hit the wall.

I've seen the problem before also and had to rethink my categories to
accomodate the limit. A pain, to be sure, but at least it's a feature and
not a bug, right <g>?

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:06:42 -0500
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Subject:      Re: 200LX IS USEFUL!
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> "mode con:rate2 delay=1"

The syntax of this appears to be incorrect. I've tried every possible
permutation of the rate2 considering this to be the typo: rate=2, rate>2,
rate> (assuming this was a Buddyism), rate 2, rate, etc.

Could someone clarify this for me. The line as typed above and with all of
my perms. returns a "Bad Command or file name"

Alex Arancio
Trout, Segall & Doyle LLC

Email:  store4u@troutsegall.com (business)
        Realestateconsultant@erols.com (personal)

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:20:35 -0800
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On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Alex Arancio wrote:

> > "mode con:rate2 delay=1"
>
> The syntax of this appears to be incorrect. I've tried every possible
> permutation of the rate2 considering this to be the typo: rate=2, rate>2,
> rate> (assuming this was a Buddyism), rate 2, rate, etc.
>
> Could someone clarify this for me. The line as typed above and with all of
> my perms. returns a "Bad Command or file name"

mode con:rate=2 delay=1

The above works for me (note the change from "rate2" to "rate=2").

Your "Bad command or file name" message indicates it can't find the
'mode' command. Make sure d:\dos is in your path (that's where the mode
command is). BTW, if you keyed in the double-quotes as shown in the
original post, you get the same error message....leave the quotes off the
command (sorry if you already knew this).

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:54:45 -0800
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Hi,

For those of you looking for replacement bits for the LX, the kit you =
need is called a "Palmtop maintenance kit", HP part no F1216-60998. It =
includes: 2 IR doors, 8 rubber feets, 2 backup battery tray, 2 battery =
doors, 4 hinge caps, and 2 engraving plates. In essences, enough parts =
for 2 LX. You should be able to order it from any HP retailer with the =
number.

George

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:37:28 -0800
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Has anyone been able to get Agenda to run from the SystemManager or
Moreexm?  I've tried to set it up with MaxDOS, but haven't had any luck.
Can someone help?

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:47:40 -0500
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Subject:      Re: sandisk dead???

On  Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:19:10, Bas Pruijn wrote:

> Sometime ago I asked about a dead sandisk (HP) flashcard of 5Mb. The
> advise I have gotten is to use fdisk100 on the 200lx. When I try this,
> the pgm says
>
> "fdisk is not needed for card in slot A:"
>
> An other suggestion was: use format in the 200 lx. This gives:
> first I get:
> "insert a new disk for drive A:  press ENTER when ready..."
>
> but when I press ENTER I get:
> "Format not supported on drive A:   Format Terminated"
>
> Are there any suggestions left?

The above described is the same results when a 100LX needs the
acecard.com driver. Give it a try, can't hurt.

Bas Pruijn

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:42:50 +0100
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Hi,
does anybody know where it is possible to find Carousel, the optimizing
software for HP200Lx?
I was told that "Your One Stop Palmtop Shop" does not sell it anymore.

Thank You

Paolo

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:58:26 -0500
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Claud,

You might want to join the PIM-list.  Many of the listees are Agenda users running HP-LXs.  Go to the web site
listed below for instructions on how to join.

Now, to answer your question...

On my HP, Agenda is loaded in the c:\agenda directory.  In the Agenda directory I have the following files:

    a.exe
    agenda.env
    agenda.hlp
    agenda.icn
    agenda.ri
    maxdos.com

In my c:\agenda\apps directory I have the planner.ag database file that come with Agenda.

My autoexec.bat file ends with the following statements:


    maxdos -l
    c:buddy.com
    200
    maxdos -r

c:buddy.com is optional, in case you are using this great utility.

I have the Application Magager set-up with the following:

    Name: Lotus Agenda

    Path: c:\agenda\maxdos.com c:\agenda\a.exe planner

    Comments: (inverted ?)

NOTE: Putting the planner statement at the end of the path statement automatically loads the personal planner
application.  You can leave this off or use the name of whatever database you normally use.

If you would like a copy of the Agenda icon I created, send me a message to my e-mail address below.

Michael


--- On Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:37:28 -0800  "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM> wrote:

>Has anyone been able to get Agenda to run from the SystemManager or
>Moreexm?  I've tried to set it up with MaxDOS, but haven't had any luck.
>Can someone help?

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_____________2:43:28 PM EST, 1/7/98_____________

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On  Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:42:50, Paolo Piovano wrote:

> Hi,
> does anybody know where it is possible to find Carousel, the optimizing
> software for HP200Lx?
> I was told that "Your One Stop Palmtop Shop" does not sell it anymore.


Shier Systems & Software. Inc. has it.

Phone: 805-371-9391
Fax:   805-371-9484
http://www.shier.com
To receive latest pricing sheet, email your requerst to:
pricing@shier.com





Regards,

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I am interested in having a keyboard for entering data into my 200lx while on
the go, but have a difficult time typing on its keyboard with my chubby little
fingers and can't lug around a newton keyboard (space is a major concern) for
this purpose.

Has anyone (a) had any experience with one-handed chord keyboards in general
and (b) know if these will work (practically) with a 200lx?

Thanks!

-- Terry

p.s. I really love my new 200lx (thanks Julie).  This is one of the best
little toys I've every bought.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:20:13 -0600
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Did the Sandisk come with a diskette or a manual?
You should turn there first.

Bas Pruijn wrote:

> Sometime ago I asked about a dead sandisk (HP) flashcard of 5Mb. The advise
> I have gotten is to use fdisk100 on the 200lx. When I try this, the pgm says
>
> "fdisk is not needed for card in slot A:"
>
> An other suggestion was: use format in the 200 lx. This gives:
> first I get:
> "insert a new disk for drive A:  press ENTER when ready..."
>
> but when I press ENTER I get:
> "Format not supported on drive A:   Format Terminated"
>
> Are there any suggestions left?
>
> Bas Pruijn
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Comments: To: Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>

Dear Jeff,

I think the dmail found in the site stated below is not the dmail
I'm using. Dmail I'm using is a freeware written by a Japanese.

It can be d/loaded at <ftp.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/PC network/dos/Dmail>

Regards,

cp


  In Reply to :
At  5 Jan 20:41, Jeff wrote:
>
>You can get it www.agate.net/~tvdog/internet.html
>
>
>73 de KF4KGQ
>Jeff Johns
>jeffj@scott.net
>Reserve Captain
>Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
>Birmingham, Alabama USA
>http://www.bham.net/jcsd
>


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Date:         Wed, 7 Jan 1998 22:56:26 -0600
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On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Alex Arancio wrote:

> > "mode con:rate2 delay=1"
>
> The syntax of this appears to be incorrect. I've tried every possible
> permutation of the rate2 considering this to be the typo: rate=2, rate>2,
> rate> (assuming this was a Buddyism), rate 2, rate, etc.
>

As another participant explained, the expression needs an
equals sign, but the original post had "rate=32" not 2.  I've
tried this rate and it indeed speeds up the typematic, perhaps
a bit too much.  When using the cursor to scroll through
calendars (Pocket Quicken or Appt, for example) the typematic
quickly outstrips the display capability resulting in much
beeping.  Does anyone know what the default is?  I'm thinking
of trying 20 or 25.

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              Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
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From:         Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
Subject:      Re: Chord keyboard
Comments: To: Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU>
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The Newton Keyboard will fit in the inside pocket of a sports jacket.
And it is very light.  What do you mean lug it around?

At 02:05 PM 1/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I am interested in having a keyboard for entering data into my 200lx while on
>the go, but have a difficult time typing on its keyboard with my chubby
little
>fingers and can't lug around a newton keyboard (space is a major concern) for
>this purpose.
>
>Has anyone (a) had any experience with one-handed chord keyboards in general
>and (b) know if these will work (practically) with a 200lx?
>
>Thanks!
>
>-- Terry
>
>p.s. I really love my new 200lx (thanks Julie).  This is one of the best
>little toys I've every bought.
>
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>
Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
Phil Seyer (415) 665-8933, ext. 333

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Tried this site out and can't connect.

-----Original Message-----
From: C P Wong <cpwong@TM.NET.MY>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, January 08, 1998 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Alternative to Nettamer


>Dear Jeff,
>
>I think the dmail found in the site stated below is not the dmail
>I'm using. Dmail I'm using is a freeware written by a Japanese.
>
>It can be d/loaded at <ftp.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/PC network/dos/Dmail>
>
>Regards,
>
>cp
>
>
>  In Reply to :
>At  5 Jan 20:41, Jeff wrote:
>>
>>You can get it www.agate.net/~tvdog/internet.html
>>
>>
>>73 de KF4KGQ
>>Jeff Johns
>>jeffj@scott.net
>>Reserve Captain
>>Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
>>Birmingham, Alabama USA
>>http://www.bham.net/jcsd
>>
>
>
>---
>cpwong
>
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Stan Hall wrote:
>
> Hey everyone.
>
> I am a happy 100LX user who just bought a used 200LX so that I could
> take advantage of the NSW upgrade.
>
> Well it seems that I have a small problem.  It has no sound.  After
> opening the case and guessing that it must just be a loose connection, I
> discovered what appears to be a missing component on the motherboard.
> My guess is that it is a transistor, but my knowledge of SMT components
> is very limited.
>
> First I was hoping someone could identify the component for me.  From
> the CPU side it is the second component above the speaker pads as you
> move towards the battery compartment.  The first component is labeled
> 8JY (or HJY) and I assume that the one that I am missing is a similiar
> part.

Hi
The part appears to be a transistor (3 legs) labeled "L44 "
It is the same as the one just left and down from the
lower speaker pad - on CPU side, CPU down & PC Card connector
to right..

Cheers
John

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The dmail can be found on this page

http://www.thaddeus.com/ftpj.htm

Ciao!

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Everyone probably realises that I have a HP200LX but in addition, I have
a borrowed HP95LX as part of a demonstration of some other equipment.

I just recently saw a comment that it was possible to use the HP95LX to
access the Internet using Nettamer. I would like to hear from anyone who
has actually done this. The unit that I have has 512Kb. and I would
suppose that it is not practical to expand the memory. In addition the
RS-232 port will only work with some modems and HP in the owners manual
is not telling which will work and which will not.

Does this require a combined Modem/Ram card? I would like to hear as I
delight in showing people that it is not necessary to have any big iron
to get your mail, read newsgroups and get text from the WWW.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jan 1998 07:30:44 -0500
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              Tom LaRoche <tom_laroche@HP.COM>
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Congratulations on your test results I'm glad your heart is trouble free.

And thank you for the kind words of praise. You see, I work for HP-MPG
(Medical Products Group) in the Imaging Systems Division where the Sonos
ultrasound machines are designed and manufactured. We are located in
Andover, Massachusetts. The procedure is called echocardiography. (Echo -
for the sound transmission and reflection technology; cardio - for the
heart; and ography - for picture as in photography but without the
photons.)

We are very proud of our work here and enjoy hearing the first person
accounts of how we've helped peoples' lives. You should see the latest
technology and what's coming down the pike!

Thanks again

Tom LaRoche

On Wednesday, January 07, 1998 5:44 PM, anborg
SMTP:anborg@EAGLE.SEED.NET.TW wrote:

> Today, my doctor suggested some sort of heart test to see if some
> missing or misplaced beats were significant. I went in for the test this
> afternoon and low and behold, It was the same sort of ultrasonic chest
> scan apparatus that I had seen earlier. As the doctor moved this
> ultrasonic probe around on my chest, he was describing to another doctor
> just what he was seeing. When he got done, he said that as far as he
> could see there was no problem with my heart and he had a printed copy
> of some of the various pictures to give to the my doctor.
>
> There has been a lot of discussion about HP and some of the people seem
> to be upset about HP seemingly becoming attached to WinCE machines. I
> will also be sorry if the DOS machines are no longer sold. However, it
> is not the company that is good or bad, it is the people that make up
> the company and I think that HP passes the test.
>

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:46:42 +0200
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              Vasilis Tzimis <nm92011@CENTRAL.NTUA.GR>
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I am curious to know if the WWW/lx  package worths buying ...
I have seen the capabilities of the HV included browser and i liked it,
so i am thinking of buying the whole package...

Please send me your opinion, or write me about other programs...

Thank you in advance
Vasilis Tzimis

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My opinion, yes. WWW/LX is certainly woorth buying. I use it several times a day for e-mail. I have used it for web browsing and newsgroups on the road. I do ALL of my e-mail on it.
I have had no problems with it for 6 months.
Ken Moore

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jan 1998 07:48:57 -0600
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I was able to take the poor man's route to fixing my HPLX.
Much to my surprise, my local hardware store had 1.6mm machine screws
which worked for the case (15 cents).
A little dab of silicone adhesive (found at hardware or auto parts
stores) now plugs the hole with a similar feel to the rubber plugs. I'd
recommend against a latex based caulk as it is not as pliable as
silicone. The silicone can easily be scraped out of the hole if I need
access to the screw later.
-Eric

        PREVIOUS THREAD:

> > Steindorf, Eric wrote:
> > > I lost one of the rubber feet on the bottom of my 200LX and now
> that
> > > screw is gone as well. Anyone have any suggestions as to where I
> might
> > > find replacements?
> >
> > What you need is the LX repair kit, except that I don't think that
> is
> > the official name for it and I can't remember how I ordered it.  It
> > comes with 8 rubber feet and the screws and some other replacement
> parts
> > like end caps, infared covers, battery covers, etc.  I think it's
> about
> > $20 incl. shipping. Worth it. Check the Hewlett-Packard site.
> Call HP Direct Order Dept. at 800-227-8164
>
>

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jan 1998 06:59:44 -0800
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Anyone know where I can find an icon viewer for the LX that displays a
page of icons at a time?

I know I played with one downloaded from somewhere (Monash/Eddie) long
before SUPER existed, but I can't seem to find it anymore, and I'd like to
use it to rummage thru my icon collections.

I know that LXPIC, ICN200LX and several other programs will display icons,
but they only do 1 icon on the screen at a time. Thanks.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:02:28 -0700
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Longden, and all.

Thank you. I was not aware of this "feature" --
and have been without my manual since last week,
when my home was subjected to a rather
comprehensive rearrangement in preparation for
remodeling (e.g., I can't find anything!).

However, this doesn't seem to characterize my
problem. In particular, the category titles number
only 22 entries, that sum to 226 characters. Even
after reducing them to under 200 characters, I
still experience the problem as described.

_don

==================================================Donald J. Winiecki, Ed.D., Assistant Professor
Boise State University, College of Engineering
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>>> "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@world.northgrum.com>
01/07/98 09:03am >>>
On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Donald J. Winiecki wrote:

> I have an odd trouble with my 200LX. In the
> NoteTaker application, I can no longer enter a
> CATEGORY name. In particular, I can type a new
> category name, but when advancing to another
> field, or pressing <enter>, the category field
> clears itself.
>
> I am able to select from among the existing list
> of categories, and new category names will
> *occasionally* be accepted if the new name is 3
> characters or less.

     <snip>

Pg. 8-2 of the 200LX manual says the Category
field is limited to 32 categories OR 255
characters. Sounds like you've hit the wall.

     <snip>

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:16:56 -0800
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Whatever this was, it didn't make it.

At 10:46 PM 1/7/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\HP"
>

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:35:02 -0800
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Comments: To: Vasilis Tzimis <nm92011@CENTRAL.NTUA.GR>
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I have not been able to connect to Netcom (my ISP), but I like the 'feel'
and 'look' of the applications (i.e., I have not been able to do anything
but look at it).

At 02:46 PM 1/8/98 +0200, you wrote:
>I am curious to know if the WWW/lx  package worths buying ...
>I have seen the capabilities of the HV included browser and i liked it,
>so i am thinking of buying the whole package...
>
>Please send me your opinion, or write me about other programs...
>
>Thank you in advance
>Vasilis Tzimis
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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I also have seen and used the program. I think it was called icnview or
something like that, but don't remember where I got it :-(


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
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    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:40:59 +0100
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I've seen some times ago a little utility
that changes the topcard automagically choosing the new ones
from a given directory. Does anyone can help me finding it?

        Ciao
        Raffaele Gaioni

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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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At 19:40 1/8/98 +0100, you wrote:
>I've seen some times ago a little utility
>that changes the topcard automagically choosing the new ones
>from a given directory. Does anyone can help me finding it?
>
>        Ciao
>        Raffaele Gaioni
>
Look for topcard.zip at http://www.best.com/~jonin/palmtop.html
Best Regards,
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Date:         Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:50:36 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:

> Anyone know where I can find an icon viewer for the LX that displays a
> page of icons at a time?
>
> I know I played with one downloaded from somewhere (Monash/Eddie) long
> before SUPER existed, but I can't seem to find it anymore, and I'd like to
> use it to rummage thru my icon collections.
>
> I know that LXPIC, ICN200LX and several other programs will display icons,
> but they only do 1 icon on the screen at a time. Thanks.

The newest LXPIC has a list mode that will display more than one icon on
the screen at a time.

Regards,

Laust
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Date:         Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:17:11 -0500
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      FS: backlight kit for HP200LX -CA only on this one.

Check this guy out! Talking about..........CA only.

----- forwarded message -----

From: zot2u@earthlink.net
Newsgroups: alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.laptops,ca.forsale,la.forsale,oc.forsale,sdnet.forsale
Subject: FS: backlight kit for HP200LX -CA only on this one.
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 20:19:16 -0800
Reply-To: zot2u@earthlink.net

Backlight kit comes with:

backlight panel goes behind original screen.
power supply
inverter
$75 Firm and in CA only on this one.
I have only ONE kit.  Try it.  See it before you buy.
SOUTHERN CA ONLY PLEASE.


----- end of forwarded message -----







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I have been using WWW/LX with the email and news service
function. And I have to say that it is great! Sure you will
hear that there are problems, there are.

But those problems are simply setting it up. They work fine.

You have to download a few files to increase the
capabilities but they are well worth it.

At present I check email in 8 mailboxes, I browse the web
Get info from news groups, upload and download files.

You Can't go wrong with it !

Richard

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On  Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:35:02 -0800 Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> I have not been able to connect to Netcom (my ISP), but I like the
> 'feel' and 'look' of the applications (i.e., I have not been able to do
> anything but look at it).

Can you re-post your problem? (:-D






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Date:         Thu, 8 Jan 1998 16:38:06 -0600
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Russ-
Any chance you could publish a list of your favorite HPLX compatible
games?  I'd like to find more arcade type games, such as Pharoah's Tomb
and adventure games like King's Quest (not sure if that works on HPLX).
Most of the smaller, old DOS games I have use some sort of copy
protection.
-Eric

> ----------
> From:         Russel BrooksSMTP:rlbrooks@POBOX.COM
> Sent:         Wednesday, January 07, 1998 8:37 AM
> Subject:      95LX Tiger Fox game -> 200LX ??
>
> In the JPICONS2.ZIP file a 95LX EXM hidden game called Tiger Fox is
> mentioned.  Because it is described as hidden I assume this is a
> built in game in the 95's ROM?
>
> Will this game run on a 200LX?  If yes, does anyone with a 95 want to
> send me a copy to try?
>
> I'm always looking for new games; you can never have too many games...
> Russ
>

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:58:34 -0800
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              Larry Soo <lhsoo@OFF-ROAD.COM>
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If I bought a 2MB 100LX, would it be capable of accepting the same memory
upgrades as the 200LX?


...lars

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jan 1998 16:00:23 -0700
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              Don Puscher <dpuscher@QUALCOMM.COM>
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Lord Jonin's page at http://www.best.com/~jonin/palmtop.html has a program
called Icon View.  He says "Lets you see up to 30 icons at a time! Also
included is more then 30 new icons that I made. :) "

Don


At 06:59 AM 1/8/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Anyone know where I can find an icon viewer for the LX that displays a
>page of icons at a time?
>
>I know I played with one downloaded from somewhere (Monash/Eddie) long
>before SUPER existed, but I can't seem to find it anymore, and I'd like to
>use it to rummage thru my icon collections.
>
>I know that LXPIC, ICN200LX and several other programs will display icons,
>but they only do 1 icon on the screen at a time. Thanks.
>
>- Longden
>
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Date:         Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:58:50 -0800
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              "Larry H. Hooks" <LHooks@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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Tom,
I'm a cardiac sonographer who uses your product every day (Sonos 2000 and
2500).
I must say that this was a big improvement over the 1000 and 1500 series.
Care to dicuss what's coming down the pike?
Larry-

> We are very proud of our work here and enjoy hearing the first person
> accounts of how we've helped peoples' lives. You should see the latest
> technology and what's coming down the pike!

> Tom LaRoche

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:12:20 -0800
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No.  I called NSW or whomever they are when they were running the special.

At 02:58 PM 1/8/98 -0800, you wrote:
>If I bought a 2MB 100LX, would it be capable of accepting the same memory
>upgrades as the 200LX?
>
>
>...lars
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Date:         Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:22:45 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Steindorf, Eric wrote:

> games?  I'd like to find more arcade type games, such as Pharoah's Tomb
> and adventure games like King's Quest (not sure if that works on HPLX).
> Most of the smaller, old DOS games I have use some sort of copy
> protection.

I installed King's Quest (I'm not sure which version) on my 200LX about a
year ago to keep my kids busy...it works. I don't recall having to do
anything unusual in the way of copy protection.

I deleted it after about a week, when they were done with it.

- Longden

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Larry Soo wrote:
>
> If I bought a 2MB 100LX, would it be capable of accepting the same memory
> upgrades as the 200LX?
>
> ...lars
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No, but I have a 2 Meg 200LX for sale that you can.  $275

FOR SALE:       HP accessories for 200/100 LX palmtops

     * HP 200LX, 2MB, box & manuals
            mint condition              selling $275
     * my brother have an 200LX, 6MB for sale.
            I have to ask him for price
            (it is probably around ~$500)
     * HP 200/100 wireless PalmStation
            to communicate wireless on
            the road over long distance. Selling $400 (orig $1,500)
     * PCMCIA type II to type III converter for HP palmtops
            This allow you to use type III PCMCIA devices (HD,
etc...)in             the type II PCMCIA slots in the HP200LX or
HP100LX.
            selling $70  (orig $100)
     * PCMCIA HD 170 MB type III (brand-new still in box)
            selling $100 (orig $350)
     * To keep your PC & Palmtop in Sync! Windows 95 compatible.
       HP IntelliSync connectivity kit (serial transfer cable included)
                by PUMA Technology.     selling $35 (orig. $95)
     * AC adapter                       selling $30
     * Serial cable                     selling $25
     * Serial to Paraller converter
        (the good kind, does not need battery)  $50-$70
     * HP palmtops plastic tray         selling $10
     * HP 200LX manuals                 selling $20
          100LX manuals                 selling $15
     * Windows 3.0                      selling $20
     * AceFax                           selling $35
     * HP leather case & bag            selling $10-50

If you're interested in any of the above, please send me e-mail
at zot2u@earthlink.net
Serious inquiries only. Thanks

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Date:         Thu, 8 Jan 1998 20:03:56 -0800
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Hi everyone,
        I just purchased a magic ram 40 mg card for my hp200lx for
439.00 and when it arrived I opened the box to find a kingmax
(kingston)card.
The kingmax card works okay, but when I checked with kingston, they sell
the card for something like 260.00. I called magic ram back and at first
they tried to tell me they are the same cards. After telling this guy I
had checked prices and ordered magic ram based on the lifetime warranty,
he said he would call me back. He did, and to make a long story short,
they agreed to sell me the kingmax for 299.00 or let me send it back for
a magic ram card for 399.00 (40.00 bucks less than I orginally paid). My
question, is there any difference? Magic ram says their card is better,
hp approved and all that B.S. if you know what I mean, but I wonder
about what kind of firm they are now anyway. It seems a lot like bait
and switch. If anyone out there (and I know there are people who use
both cards) can help, I would appreciate it. The kingmax card has a one
year warranty. When I asked why I was shipped this card in the first
place I was told they didn't know (I had specifically asked for the
magic ram card). Is there a difference in the power usuage that would
justify the extra 100 bucks? a difference in the speed? a difference in
the quality? Thanks in advance for your opinions.
                                     Terry Livingston

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ftp://ftp.riken.go.jp/pub/pc/misc/network/utsun/dos/Dmail/dmail220.lzh


this version is Japan made

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Has anyone on the list got a copy of lha.exe that they could send me?
Thanks in advance :-)


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
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Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
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    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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I am REALLY sorry. I meant to send LHA.EXE to jeff and instead sent it
to the list.  It went out before I could kill it.
Again, very sorry.
Jim

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Since useful DOS programs are of interested to HP200Lx
guys, I thought this post would be appropriate.

I recently wrote a DOS utility some of you may be interested in.
You give it a filename and it copies the file to a new unique name,
while keeping the stem of the filename the same.  The program
changes the extension to make the filename unique.

For example...

    makeuniq status.doc

...will make a copy of status.doc with the name status.001.

But if status.001 already exists, then the file will be
called status.002. If status.001 and status.002 exist,
then the file will be called status.003.

I use the utility in this way:  when I need to make a status report,
I like to quickly bring up the last status report that I created and
then modify it to make the new report.
If I always bring up the file status.doc, I don't have to think
about what filename to search for and I can automate the process
using a macro.  I have a macro that automatically emails my
status report to my project manager.

After submitting the status report, I like to keep an extra,
 permanent copy of status.doc. I do that by calling the makeuniq.exe
which creates the unique name.  The date of the file itself shows me
at a glance the approximate period ending date of the status report.
I can easily can previous status reports when necessary to find
the one I want.

Let me know if you'd like to try it on a shareware basis, and I'll
send you a copy.  There is no set registration fee, just what you
want to donate if you use it.  Is this donationware?


Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
Phil Seyer (415) 665-8933, ext. 333

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Where's a good source for HP200LX battery covers?

Mine's just about had it. Does someone sell these at a reasonable price? I
know that some one of the LX suppliers used to but I forget which one. I hope
it's not one of the onse that went out of business.

Thanks.

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I want to purchase Sparcom Drive 100. If you have it
for sale, let me know

Jan
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Hi Ted,
I use MODE CON RATE=25 DELAY=1 as the best setting for me. Found out
nothing better.
Bye, Axel

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On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Ted Heise wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Alex Arancio wrote:
>
> > > "mode con:rate2 delay=1"
> >
> > The syntax of this appears to be incorrect. I've tried every possible
> > permutation of the rate2 considering this to be the typo: rate=2, rate>2,
> > rate> (assuming this was a Buddyism), rate 2, rate, etc.
> >
>
> As another participant explained, the expression needs an
> equals sign, but the original post had "rate=32" not 2.  I've
> tried this rate and it indeed speeds up the typematic, perhaps
> a bit too much.  When using the cursor to scroll through
> calendars (Pocket Quicken or Appt, for example) the typematic
> quickly outstrips the display capability resulting in much
> beeping.  Does anyone know what the default is?  I'm thinking
> of trying 20 or 25.
>
> Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
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On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Axel Klag wrote:

> Hi Ted,
> I use MODE CON RATE=25 DELAY=1 as the best setting for me. Found out
> nothing better.
> Bye, Axel
>

Thanks for the information, Axel.  I looked through a DOS 5.0
manual and found that rate can range from 1 to 32, with values
corresponding to approximately 2 to 30 characters per second
respectively.  The default is 20 for AT and 21 for PS/2.

I played around with it and discovered 26 was still a bit too
fast.  20 was fine and so is 24, but I hadn't tried 25 yet!  :)

For what it's worth, the delay value can range from 1 to 4 and
results in delays of 0.25, 0.50, 0.75, and 1 second.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Philip,

Such a program is very useful and I can recommend anybody using one - I
wrote one in the mid80ies after making some unfavourable changes to a
source code and having to spent hours on getting it back to normal. I nev=
er
make a change to a program (or ASCII file) without making a copy first. I=

also use it for the currency data I download to keep a couple of days wor=
th
of data in case the data conversion appears to have problems.

An idea: mine knows about certain filename extensions: .C, .H, .ASM, .PAS=
,
=2ETXT etc and only changes the last *two* characters to digits if one of=

these. While developing you often use the same filename but different
extension to keep things together.

Jorgen
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On Thu,  8 Jan 1998, anborg <anborg@eagle.seed.net.tw> wrote:

an> I just recently saw a comment that it was possible to use the HP95LX =
to
an> access the Internet using Nettamer. I would like to hear from anyone =
who
an> has actually done this. The unit that I have has 512Kb....
an>
an> Does this require a combined Modem/Ram card? I would like to hear as =
I
an> delight in showing people that it is not necessary to have any big =
iron
an> to get your mail, read newsgroups and get text from the WWW.

I can't say for nettamer but my first lx was a 1mb 95lx which i sent
for my sister-in-law (who resides in Manchester, UK) when my 200
arrived. She used it along with a pcmcia PalmModem (made specifically
for the 95lx that i got from nsw some time back) to read and write
mail on compuserve for quite some time - up to one year ago! She has
since sold the 95lx (yes its *still* on the net on compuserve after
over six years of continuous use!!) to another doctor who uses it to
keep in touch with family back home.

Come to think of it - these 95lx's seem to have been much sturdier
than their successors. This unit has been thru more relationships than
Elizabeth Taylor and more trips to the floor than could be counted (tho
not while in my care) and still works flawlessly. My 200lx is scarcely
12 mths old, has newer seen an hour of harsh treatment, direct sunlight
nor cold weather and yet still sports a line accross the screen and tiny
traces of 'the crack'!

Guess they don't make 'em like they used to....

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Interesting program and its use to make "generations" of
the same basic file.

I wrote a DOS pgm that does the same thing and also allows
string replacement. Up to 15 pairs of old:new strings may be used.
It's on Simtel as texrep12.zip.

Philip Seyer wrote:

> Since useful DOS programs are of interested to HP200Lx
> guys, I thought this post would be appropriate.
>
> I recently wrote a DOS utility some of you may be interested in.
> You give it a filename and it copies the file to a new unique name,
> while keeping the stem of the filename the same.  The program
> changes the extension to make the filename unique.
>
>
> I use the utility in this way:  when I need to make a status report,
> I like to quickly bring up the last status report that I created and
> then modify it to make the new report.
>
>
> After submitting the status report, I like to keep an extra,
>  permanent copy of status.doc. I do that by calling the makeuniq.exe
> which creates the unique name.  The date of the file itself shows me
> at a glance the approximate period ending date of the status report.
> I can easily can previous status reports when necessary to find
> the one I want.
>
> Let me know if you'd like to try it on a shareware basis, and I'll
> send you a copy.  There is no set registration fee, just what you
> want to donate if you use it.  Is this donationware?
>
> Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
> Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
> SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
> MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
> Phil Seyer (415) 665-8933, ext. 333

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I need to compress a 2Mb SRAM on an HP95.  Have seen references on this
list to Stacker 3.0 and Palmstac software.  Would someone please inform
me as to whether Stacker is good, and whether a special software like
palmstac is needed.
I use the HP95 as a datalogger through the serial port.  It works well
once you figure out that the port is DCE.  By the way, do the HP100, 200
etc supply port power (the 95 doesn't, of course, being a 2/3 wire
system)?  Nonetheless, the 95 raises the current draw to 200 ma, quite a
lot for AA cells.  Thanks.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:06:59 -0800
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Go see http://www.iinet.net.au/~muzza/hplx.html for instructions - his web
page has instructions on setting it up (somewhere - don't remember exactly
where).

You don't need palmstac - it just automates the process.

At 11:50 AM 1/9/98 -0800, you wrote:
>I need to compress a 2Mb SRAM on an HP95.  Have seen references on this
>list to Stacker 3.0 and Palmstac software.  Would someone please inform
>me as to whether Stacker is good, and whether a special software like
>palmstac is needed.
>I use the HP95 as a datalogger through the serial port.  It works well
>once you figure out that the port is DCE.  By the way, do the HP100, 200
>etc supply port power (the 95 doesn't, of course, being a 2/3 wire
>system)?  Nonetheless, the 95 raises the current draw to 200 ma, quite a
>lot for AA cells.  Thanks.
>
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A few weeks back, someone posted either in here or in c.s.palmtops about
the Cirque Easy Cat - a cheap touch pad at less than $30 US.  I got a
friend, who visited the US for Christmas, to get one for me.  It arrived
today, and it's a wonderful little thing.  I plugged it into the HP200,
fired up Windows 3, and away I went.  It's now enjoyable to use =
'mousable'
programs on the HP.

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
Team 200LX UK
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Date:         Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:33:43 EST
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Hello to all:

Does anyone know which digital cameras/software works well with the 200LX?  I
am interested in buying a digital camera and have sort of fallen for the Ricoh
RDC300.  I plan on using the 200LX to store images when I am out and about and
wonder about how I can provided connectivity between the two.  Any suggestions
and ideas would be really appreciated.

Thanks!

Robin
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Date:         Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:05:53 -0800
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On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Neil Tungate wrote:

> A few weeks back, someone posted either in here or in c.s.palmtops about
> the Cirque Easy Cat - a cheap touch pad at less than $30 US.  I got a
> friend, who visited the US for Christmas, to get one for me.  It arrived
> today, and it's a wonderful little thing.  I plugged it into the HP200,
> fired up Windows 3, and away I went.  It's now enjoyable to use 'mousable'
> programs on the HP.

That was me.  It really is great to be able to draw pictures in
Autosketch, and the Easy Cat is a good companion to the 200LX not only
because of its price, but because of its small size.  However, there is
one thing: the first one I got didn't work with my double-speed 200LX.  It
worked with the desktop computer, and with a single-speed 200LX, but it
just didn't work at all with my double-speed unit.  So I returned it, got
another, and it worked fine with everything.  The moral: if you can't get
it to work on your double-speed palmtop, but it works on other things, the
fault is with the touchpad, not the double-speed.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:37:18 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
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Subject:      Re: 200LX and digital cameras

> Hello to all:
>
> Does anyone know which digital cameras/software works well with the 200LX?  I
> am interested in buying a digital camera and have sort of fallen for the Ricoh
> RDC300.  I plan on using the 200LX to store images when I am out and about and
> wonder about how I can provided connectivity between the two.  Any suggestions
> and ideas would be really appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Robin
> email:  RGBROWN@aol.com
>

Well I have an RDC-2 and connectivity is no problem at all. I take the ATA
flash card containing the pictures out of the camera and plug it into the
slot in the HP and the pictures are available on the HP. I don't quite know
what you would do with the pictures once they are there. I guess if you
have an internet connection you could email of upload them using FTP.
Basically there is no problem moving a card between the HP and the RDC
cameras.

One thing to note, though, the RDC cameras are rather picky about what ATA
flash cards they work with. I have several older sundisk cards that won't
work at all in the RDC-2 but a newer compact flash card with adaptor works
fine in both. Rather annoyed me at first since I have a bunch of older
flash cards and I hoped they would work in the RDC-2 but nope.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Business Division
Tidewater Community College

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jan 1998 16:08:45 -0500
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Thanks, James. I'm a long-time user of Buddy too, I just didn't know it had
that feature!

Gavin

At 02:21 AM 7/1/98 -0600, you wrote:
>If you use Buddy (v3.0), it can auto-load a macro file on startup.  Buddy
>does LOTS of other stuff, too.
>The tradeoff is that it uses a good bit of memory and isn't free ($40
>shareware).  However, I have gotten to rely on it so much that I can't
>imagine being without it.  In my opinion, it's easily worth both the
>memory and money.  You can check it out at:
>http://www.buddy.com
>
>Cheers.
>J. P. Grenert
>grenert@mayo.edu

_____
Gavin Hui                      "Shared despair is squared;
gavin@inforamp.net    shared hope is cubed (or better)."
Mississauga, ON                               -Lady Sally McGee
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Date:         Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:57:11 -0500
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In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Sun, 04 Jan 1998 10:14:20 EST."

Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>

> I checked the index at Gutenberg (www.gutenberg.com) and found the
> following free-of-charge ASCII texts:

The hostname above is for some Internet-related business in Canada.
Project Gutenberg information is available at:

    http://www.gutenberg.org/

                                -Jim.

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The Bible at PG is large and slow.  Through Tom Hoover's site, there is a
much better version that is much much faster.  I'll upload the URL later
(if Tom doesn't respond first).

At 07:57 PM 1/9/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
>
>> I checked the index at Gutenberg (www.gutenberg.com) and found the
>> following free-of-charge ASCII texts:
>
>The hostname above is for some Internet-related business in Canada.
>Project Gutenberg information is available at:
>
>    http://www.gutenberg.org/
>
>                                -Jim.
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Date:         Fri, 9 Jan 1998 20:35:23 -0500
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>Would you be willing to share it with others?  Or, upload it to =

>Super?

Uploading it usually mean documenting it, maintaining it and answering a
lot of email about it. =


I would think that Philip will be doing some redhot programming over-nigh=
t
and implement these and other things. (HINT! PHILIP). If not, I may as I
think programmers will find it useful.

Quite another thing is that I real soon now (that is at least what I keep=

saying) will open a website of tiny utilities for the LX and articles abo=
ut
assembler programming + probably C + AWK and other "halfdead" languages.

Jorgen
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HisWord, tom hoover's super effort, can be found at:

          http://www.dfwmm.net/~thoover/hisword.htm

highty recommended!

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jan 1998 21:23:30 -0500
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At 20:43 1/9/98 EST, you wrote:
>HisWord, tom hoover's super effort, can be found at:
>
>          http://www.dfwmm.net/~thoover/hisword.htm
>
>highty recommended!
>
>cordially,
>
>lynn m. cavendish
>

Agreed, this is really the best bible software for the HP200LX. The main
reason I think so is because it supports the zoom function of the HP200LX
and can display the text in the LARGE font. Plus it was written to take
advantage of the palmtops graphical interface.

Owen Samuelson

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Greetings,

        I have used my HP100LX for Bible study over the last three years in
some of the strangest places one could imagine.  It has truely been a
blessing to me.  With all do respect, the shareware Bible software
leaves much to be desired for the serious student.  Only PC Study Bible
has a complete set of reference tools.  Multiple windows make things
easy.  You can zoom and resize the Bible text although concordance and
other reference features must be viewed in smaller text.  Sure it costs
money and the necessary flash ram to store it does too.  Bible Soft is
HP palmtop conscious and will help you get it up and running.  How many
windows focused software venders do you think give a damn about a DOS
palmtop these days?  In my experience, it is the only practical
solution.  I can't imagine traveling with out it
        FYI, my palmtop has also served me well for sales contact management,
inventory analysis, word processing and HF/VHF/UHF radio control
including frequency mangement (RPN functions are to be taken for
granted).  What a tool.  I hope I don't sound like I'm preaching!

Colin

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Date:         Fri, 9 Jan 1998 22:31:28 -0600
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> HisWord, tom hoover's super effort, can be found at:
>
>           http://www.dfwmm.net/~thoover/hisword.htm
>
> highty recommended!

That's an old URL, and hasn't been updated in some time (I even
dropped the account, but the pages are still there).  Please use the
URL in my sig.  :-)

--
Tom Hoover N5NTM <thoover@pobox.com> - http://pobox.com/~thoover
    - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
     ------- finger thoover@pobox.com for PGP key --------

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Ian Melville wrote:
>
> On Thu,  8 Jan 1998, anborg <anborg@eagle.seed.net.tw> wrote:
>
> an> I just recently saw a comment that it was possible to use the HP95LX to
> an> access the Internet using Nettamer. I would like to hear from anyone who
> an> has actually done this. The unit that I have has 512Kb....
> an>
> an> Does this require a combined Modem/Ram card? I would like to hear as I
> an> delight in showing people that it is not necessary to have any big iron
> an> to get your mail, read newsgroups and get text from the WWW.
>
> I can't say for nettamer but my first lx was a 1mb 95lx which i sent
> for my sister-in-law (who resides in Manchester, UK) when my 200
> arrived. She used it along with a pcmcia PalmModem (made specifically
> for the 95lx that i got from nsw some time back) to read and write
> mail on compuserve for quite some time - up to one year ago! She has
> since sold the 95lx (yes its *still* on the net on compuserve after
> over six years of continuous use!!) to another doctor who uses it to
> keep in touch with family back home.
>
> Come to think of it - these 95lx's seem to have been much sturdier
> than their successors. This unit has been thru more relationships than
> Elizabeth Taylor and more trips to the floor than could be counted (tho
> not while in my care) and still works flawlessly. My 200lx is scarcely
> 12 mths old, has newer seen an hour of harsh treatment, direct sunlight
> nor cold weather and yet still sports a line accross the screen and tiny
> traces of 'the crack'!
>
> Guess they don't make 'em like they used to....
>
> Regards,
>
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> imelv@tstt.net.tt * FrontLine Marketing Agencies, Trinidad W.I.
> ianmel@opus.co.tt * Web: http://www.opus.co.tt/fma

Thank you for your interesting and informative reply. The particular
HP95LX that I have at this time is owned by a gentleman that I am doing
some design work for. He apparently either bought it or was given it but
was put off by the thickness of the owners manual. I contrived a serial
cable for it and used with some GPS equipment as a terminal. After I
sent the E-Mail, I started looking and found a wealth of advertising
material that dates from the computer was new. I am going to see if any
of those "modems with memory" are still available. I notice that someone
had software for using not only NiCD cells and recharging them but also
NiMH cells in the 95LX. It seems to me how funny that in just a very few
years, HP shifted from emphasising that they had a calculator that would
run 123 to the much greater emphasis on the use as a computer in the
200LX manual.

Thanks again.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jan 1998 06:25:01 -0500
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I have a Kodak DC-20 (nice, small and the quality is just good enough
for a computer screen 493*373 pixels at best). My son has a DC-25
which seems to be nearly the same hardware. The pictures are not worth
printing out in my view.

One thing to note is that even the relatively low-quality images from
the DC-20 and 25 take up 100-150K each.

SanDisk has CompactFlash cards (2, 4, 6, 8, 10 and 15 Mb) which works
both in the DC-25 and - with an adaptor - in the HP-LX. I use my 10Mb dai=
ly
in the LX.

If you think about buying a digital camera: I think that they only come
with Windows software. However Kodak DC-20 owners can get a nice, small
DOS program (22K) for free (and a lot of tech info) at

  home.t-online.de/home/Oliver.Hartmann/dc20secr.htm

(the program does not work for DC-25 (it seems to send different return
codes) but the source is probably easy to change). You will also need
the program that convert the raw images to TGA format.

This site also has links to sites covering other makes.

Jorgen
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Thank you, Jorgen.  I originally considered the Kodak DC-20 when a list
member said that they were $99 at Office Depot and Office Max.  Everywhere I
call these cameras are sold out.  I am in Colorado Springs.  So I decided  to
look at other alternatives.  Some digital cameras are using a type of flash
card for storage while Sony is using 3.5 floppies!  It seems the earlier
cameras were more compatible with the  HP200LX software.  I had hoped to find
something soon as I will be going on a business trip and it would be nice to
use the selftimer and take pictures of myself and some scenery to send to my
kids via AOL on the HP200LX.   Does the Kodak DC-20 kit  provide everything
you need right out of the box?  If so, I will pursue it online.  For $99, the
pictures don't have to be stellar quality just easy-on-the-eye without too
much pixelation.

Thanks,
Robin
email:  RGBROWN@aol.com


In a message dated 98-01-10 06:26:19 EST, you write:

> I have a Kodak DC-20 (nice, small and the quality is just good enough
>  for a computer screen 493*373 pixels at best). My son has a DC-25
>  which seems to be nearly the same hardware. The pictures are not worth
>  printing out in my view.
>
>  One thing to note is that even the relatively low-quality images from
>  the DC-20 and 25 take up 100-150K each.
>
>  SanDisk has CompactFlash cards (2, 4, 6, 8, 10 and 15 Mb) which works
>  both in the DC-25 and - with an adaptor - in the HP-LX. I use my 10Mb daily
>  in the LX.
>
>  If you think about buying a digital camera: I think that they only come
>  with Windows software. However Kodak DC-20 owners can get a nice, small
>  DOS program (22K) for free (and a lot of tech info) at
>
>    home.t-online.de/home/Oliver.Hartmann/dc20secr.htm
>
>  (the program does not work for DC-25 (it seems to send different return
>  codes) but the source is probably easy to change). You will also need
>  the program that convert the raw images to TGA format.
>
>  This site also has links to sites covering other makes.

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>

I have a Ricoh RDC-2 that I have used with my HP200LX to unload images when I
waslow on space on the road. This only works if you have a flash card that both
the Ricoh and HP can read;
most newer flash card, including compact (if you have the adapter)  are fine. Some
old (12V?)
cards that work fine in the HP do not work in the Ricoh (I have two 10MB cards
that are this way)
. Since the images in "fine" mode are about 200K
each, and are already compressed, this is only practical if you have a memory
expanded HP200.
The Ricoh stores images in a modified form of .JPG file that is easily converted
to .JPG. Some
viewers can view them directly (skip the header and duplicate every 6th line to
fix the aspect ratio).
Something to consider is the format that the camera stores the pictures in; it it
is proprietary you might
have trouble.
In all, using the camera with the HP is only good for me in an emergency. I
actually copied images
from the camera's flash card to the HP, then back to other flash cards (that the
camera could not read) for
storage.. I could see that it could
be useful with a camera like the Kodak DC20 where the camera only stores a few
images and the images
aren't too big and the camera does not have any external storage. Most cameras
have a serial port, but don't
come with any DOS software to unload the camera. The DC20 is the only one I've
ever heard of.

One other point, if any one else has a Ricoh (I saw a recent posting). The Ricoh
uses a fixed size
for image storage; i.e. the fine mode shots are always 200K. Maybe they do this so
the camera can
always tell how many images are left. There is wasted space at the end of every
file in the
.J6I file. I've been thinking about writing a DOS program for the HP that would
"compress" the images on
a card from the camera to get a bit more space by chopping off the unused part of
the file. I tested this
manually on some files, and the camera still works with the card, and you can get
the images back
just fine.  I estimate that you would get about 20% more space with "fine" files;
just stick the card
in your HP200 for a minute and run the program to reduce the files.


-Bryan

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could someone email me a screenshot of them running win3 on a hp200lx? I
don't have one but I want to see what it looks like.

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Philip Seyer wrote:
> Let me know if you'd like to try it on a shareware basis, and I'll
> send you a copy.  There is no set registration fee, just what you
> want to donate if you use it.  Is this donationware?

I'd like to try your utility, it may solve a minor problem I've had in
keeping track of files.  Thanks.

David

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Robin,

I have one of the DC-20's I would sell. It is one of the refurbished ones
that the local superstores were selling for $99. It is still sealed in the
box, never opened, never used. Bought it this summer and probably still
have receipt. I paid $99 plus tax and would take whatever I paid plus $3
postage.


Mike Kilpatrick

At 08:13 AM 1/10/98 EST, you wrote:
>Thank you, Jorgen.  I originally considered the Kodak DC-20 when a list
>member said that they were $99 at Office Depot and Office Max.
>
> Does the Kodak DC-20 kit  provide everything
>you need right out of the box?  If so, I will pursue it online.  For $99, the
>pictures don't have to be stellar quality just easy-on-the-eye without too
>much pixelation.
>
>Thanks,
>Robin
>email:  RGBROWN@aol.com
>

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Will you notify the list when you get the site up and running?

At 08:35 PM 1/9/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>Would you be willing to share it with others?  Or, upload it to
>>Super?
>
>Uploading it usually mean documenting it, maintaining it and answering a
>lot of email about it.
>
>I would think that Philip will be doing some redhot programming over-night
>and implement these and other things. (HINT! PHILIP). If not, I may as I
>think programmers will find it useful.
>
>Quite another thing is that I real soon now (that is at least what I keep
>saying) will open a website of tiny utilities for the LX and articles about
>assembler programming + probably C + AWK and other "halfdead" languages.
>
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Does anyone know of a cheap, small, battery-powered modem?

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I've seen several people recommend Sheir Systems as a source for LX related
items.  If my experience is at all typical, I recommend that one plan well
ahead when ordering there.  Admittedly, the ability to download 99% of the
available software (including the demo version of abclx) plays to my love of
instant gratification, but 30 days to get a piece of software calls for
forward planning.  Anyway, here is my experience:


Date:   12/12/97
To:      pricing@shier.com
alright,already.  just when i decide i can't live without abclx, the demo
ends.  do you people give out 1 free lay's potato chip, then sell the bags?
      8-)

Date:   12/14/97
To:     debbie@shier.com
debbie,  thanks for the response.   Visa.  xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx expires 09/99

if there is any problem, you can call me at 703-354-4416 evenings, or
301-757-5238 during business hours. ups, ground, will be fine.  (too bad you
don't have a pass-word protected ftp solution, after clearing the card.)
 <yes - i forgot my street address>

Date:   12/23/97
To:     debbie@shier.com
debbie -- i haven't received a confirmation.  i haven't received any software.
i haven't received a problem phone call.  did i do something wrong?
<i noticed that i had left out the street address, and added it here>
lynn m. cavendish

Date:   97-12-28 13:55:22 EST
From:   debbie@shier.com (Debbie R. Cole)
To:     Cavendishl@aol.com ('Cavendishl')
Sorry, if memory serves me right, I don't think we had an address to send you
software.  Spotted in this e-mail, and you'll receive shortly!!  Debbie

+++++

Well, that's the last I heard until today, when I got a post-card from UPS,
saying that they didn't have my address in adequite detail to deliver.  Yes,
yes, i know.  How did they send me a post-card, if they didn't have my
address?  They had changed my street name from "Linmar" to "Lynmar", but that
didn't seem to slow down the post office.

Oh Well, I expect that I will have my software by next week.  The funny thing
is, after nearly a month of doing without, I've pretty much adjusted to
charging my NiMH batteries using the info in Buddy.

Cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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> From:          Cavendishl <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
> I've seen several people recommend Sheir Systems as a source for LX related
> items.  If my experience is at all typical, I recommend that one plan well
> ahead when ordering there.  Admittedly, the ability to download 99% of the

The reason that I've never ordered from them, is that I was unable to
even get a price list sent to me (and I did try more than once).  I
finally found previously-owned copies what I wanted (ABC/LX and
Quick/LX) for a much better price.
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In a message dated 98-01-10 19:33:02 EST, you write:

<<
Why did you order ABC/LX when BCC ( the so called ABC/LX beta) is available
for free. If you like I can send you a copy to try/use while you're
waiting on ABC/LX.
 >>
yes, please.  wish i'd known about this weeks ago.   8-)

thanx,

lynn

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Date:         Sat, 10 Jan 1998 20:53:18 -0500
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>I had hoped to find something soon as I will be going on a business trip=

>and it would be nice to use the selftimer and take pictures of myself
>and some scenery to send to my kids via AOL on the HP200LX.   Does the
>Kodak DC-20 kit  provide everything you need right out of the box?  If
>so, I will pursue it online.  For $99, the pictures don't have to be
>stellar quality just easy-on-the-eye without too much pixelation.

The DC-20 does not have a selftimer, so it is only suitable for your
purpose if you have a long arm. ;8-)

Apologies to the list about the length of what is to come but I can see
on my email that there is plenty of interest (I hope!).

I actually bought a DC-25 first because I thought I needed the flash and
the built-in screen. I also liked being able to store pictures on a
flash card and the ability to plug in a net adapter during download and
maintenance to save battery. You can also delete pictures at random
(e.g. take three-four pictures, check them on the built-in screen and =

just keep the one you like best).

After a while I found it slightly bulky (I carry a mobile phone,
cigarettes, HP-LX, a book etc) + prefer to use a DOS program to download
pictures, so my son found he had a very easy job in convincing me that
he needed a digital camera for his photography studies. I bought a DC-20
for myself and both of us are happy. I generally use it as a notebook as
I can show the pictures on a computer without development etc. plus I
can email them around the world.

DC-20 is a very basic camera without flash, no socket for net adapter,
no external flash storage, can hold 8 pictures in 493*373 pixels or 16
in 320*240 pixels and no built-in screen. You can not delete pictures at
random. But it is *tiny* (the DC-25 is only *small*).

All in all: the DC-25 is probably a better camera as such and it can
hold twice as many pictures. The resolution is the same. Both are 100%
fully automatic. The "film speed" is 800-1600 ISO (wonderful for low
light pictures (eg a badly lit shop), even without flash!).

Both come with everything you need: serial cables for PC and Mac,
picture download and image enhancing software (nice!), (and Kai's Power
Goo software which kids of all ages just love). All software is W3.1/W95
and Macintosh. The DC-25 net adapter is extra. You can buy a tele (1.5
x), wideangle and closeup adapters as extra.

The choice is difficult. My son would not want to switch - and neither
would I. The quality is fine for our purposes. The 100-150K images
shrink to about 60-70K in JPG format (reasonable size for email!).

If you consider buying a low-resolution camera, check out the image
quality at www.kodak.com and
home.t-online.de/home/Oliver.Hartmann/dc20secr.htm.
People wishing to print quality images on paper will probably want at
least 1000 * 1000 pixels.

Jorgen

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Date:         Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:56:20 +1100
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> I never make a change to a program (or ASCII file) without making a
> copy first.

>
> An idea: mine knows about certain filename extensions: .C, .H, .ASM, .PAS,
> .TXT etc and only changes the last *two* characters to digits if one of
> these. While developing you often use the same filename but different
> extension to keep things together.

A trick I've seen is to change the file name, but leave the extension
alone. eg
        MUSIC.DOC
becomes
        MUSI001.DOC
losing the last three of eigth in the filename, if present. You can refer to
any version with
        MUSI*.DOC


The end point of all this is full `version control', using SCCS or RSC.
These are unix programs ported to DOS, which record the
changes in successive versions of a file instead of a complete copy -
generally much more efficient that keeping a copy of each. Note
that this concept is Word for Windows and Vim implement multiple undo.

Of course, if you keep the complete array of versions, from go to woe,
it takes much *more* memory!


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PS: I haven't actually used one of these systems: I just comment out
the old code when I update it... but it gets pretty full-up with dead
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> Quite another thing is that I real soon now (that is at least what I keep
> saying) will open a website of tiny utilities for the LX and articles about
> assembler programming + probably C + AWK and other "halfdead" languages.

                         *encouragement!*


Also, don't forget sed, a more than `halfdead' language, but really cool
(much faster than sed.) You know about the crazy seders mailing list,
of course?


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> I can see on my email that there is plenty of interest (I hope!).


Has anyone considered *uploading* images from the hplx to the camera,
to be viewed in *colour*?

The serial port is probably standard, and so includes 2-way data-flow;
but this is probably not utilized by the user-interface.

I expect the interface is much too slow for movie playing(!), but
would still be nice - say, for displaying images while browsing the
web... etc etc etc

:)


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Alright Jorgen,
Now I want the "skinny" on these two!  :)

1.  Does the DC-25 have a timer?
2.  Were you using the external compact flash card with an adaptor to load the
pix into the HP200LX?
3.   What software did you originally use with the DC-25 to interface with the
HP200LX?

Honestly speaking,  I realize through your comments that the DC-20 (and
possibly DC-25) works well with the HP200LX but I actually would prefer the
something more feature-oriented like the Sony Mavica FD5 or FD7 (using
external 3.5" floppies) OR the Ricoh RDC-1 or RDC-2 (using compact flash).  If
someone would tell  me some great news about the FD7 and connectivity with the
HP200LX I would go buy it right now.  I really want a mid-priced digital
camera with zoom and full-featured to accompany my HP200LX.  Somehow I don't
think I am going to be that lucky.  8-}  I actually handled the FD7 with the
zoom and it was sweet!

Decisions, decisions....
Robin
email:  RGBROWN@aol.com

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Subject:      HP200LX recharger
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Does anybody have the HP part number for the AC Adapter and Battery =
Recharger for the 200LX?


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Hi there,

   Mine shows up as an HP F1011A #ABA.

The ABA is for the US, Canada and Japan, ABB for Europe, and there are
others.

   Hope this helps,


   ...Gary


At 09:16 PM 1/10/98 -0500, you wrote:

>>>>

<excerpt>Does anybody have the HP part number for the AC Adapter and
Battery Recharger for the 200LX?



</excerpt><<<<<<<<







      ...Gary, KB7QWC


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Date:         Sat, 10 Jan 1998 22:51:20 -0500
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Lynn;
     I saw your post re: BCC.  Would you be so kind as to send me a copy
too?  TNX!

                       regards...
                                 Tony
     ___
    |   |           Tony Wallace
    |(o)|                 ~  VE3-TNW                           Those that
    //__|    _            ~  bravhart@interlynx.net            can... do!
   // \\=D <`?)           ~  Hamilton Amateur Astronomers
   \_\___o  "`\    o
    ____`o---\  /                                            The rest's
    //||\\   ___)/ "Photons!... I can see a lot of photons!"   a waste of
   // || \\ ( <==>                    ~ Albert Einstein        bandwidth!
  //  ||  \\ \/--\
 ݨ   ݨ   ݨ/    \ Pro Libertate!  ~  motto of Clan Wallace       ;-)

Why did you order ABC/LX when BCC ( the so called ABC/LX beta) is available
for free. If you like I can send you a copy to try/use while you're
waiting on ABC/LX.

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When I saw that note about the Kodak cameras being 99 dollars I went
right out and saw one. It was discouraging. It was the bare-bones
camera, no viewscreen, no way to pre or post-view the images.

So on the shelf next to that was the Casio QV-11, at 199.00. It was
apparently going to be a close-out, but it was fifty times better
looking than the Kodak one. It has a viewscreen, stores 96 images, the
lens turns all way backwards for self-portraits, and it has a timer.
There is software and a cable to interface with the PC and all that
works fine. I gave them some static about the box having been opened but
everything checked out and it works fine.

Of course a week ago I went back into Office Depot (or was it Stapes..
they all look the same to me) and saw the next one up from the QV-11,
and it is REALLY nice.. a little bigger, has a flash, (the QV-11 doesn't
pick up low-light too well) and stores at three different resolutions,
has a bigger viewscreen.

Well, I haven't tried putting any of the QV-11 pics on the LX as the
software is for Windows, but the files are only a few hundred bytes
each, so they could be converted from .cam files to .jpg or something,
and it would work just fine.

I managed to scrape together some nice photo programs and now I'm right
back where I left off when I didn't want to pursue photography due to
color processing being so much trouble... the programs are SO easy
compared to all that...And when you have a digital image that looks
dark, there is still LOTS of depth there, the colors can be pulled out
and it still can be salvaged.  A great improvement over color film, in
that way, but the resolution isn't quite there yet, but will be soon I
am sure, and affordably.

        Bob Aldrich
        Los Angeles


RGBROWN wrote:
>
> Thank you, Jorgen.  I originally considered the Kodak DC-20 when a list
> member said that they were $99 at Office Depot and Office Max.  Everywhere I
> call these cameras are sold out.  I am in Colorado Springs.  So I decided  to
> look at other alternatives.  Some digital cameras are using a type of flash
> card for storage while Sony is using 3.5 floppies!  It seems the earlier
> cameras were more compatible with the  HP200LX software.  I had hoped to find
> something soon as I will be going on a business trip and it would be nice to
> use the selftimer and take pictures of myself and some scenery to send to my
> kids via AOL on the HP200LX.   Does the Kodak DC-20 kit  provide everything
> you need right out of the box?  If so, I will pursue it online.  For $99, the
> pictures don't have to be stellar quality just easy-on-the-eye without too
> much pixelation.
>

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 06:04:26 +0000
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On 1998-01-11 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >DC-20 is a very basic camera without flash, no socket for net
   >adapter, no external flash storage, can hold 8 pictures in 493*373
   >pixels or 16 in 320*240 pixels and no built-in screen. You can not
   >delete pictures at random. But it is *tiny*
<snip>
   >The choice is difficult. My son would not want to switch - and
   >neither would I. The quality is fine for our purposes. The 100-150K
   >images shrink to about 60-70K in JPG format (reasonable size for
   >email!).

Jorgen,

I've been playing with my DC-20 and the LXDC software on SUPER, which lets
me download the camera images to the LX for storage and perform some very
simple previewing (actually, the PCX conversions seem hardly any better than
the thumbnails).

Do you have a simple way to convert the camera images to JPG format on the LX,
or do you just use the companion desktop program to do the conversion?

I'm still getting acquainted with the LXDC software on SUPER which lets me
control the camera and save the images to the LX...have you compared this
to any other like software? Thanks. I'll be checking out that website you
suggested.

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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Date:         Sun, 11 Jan 1998 08:28:37 -0500
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>Do you have a simple way to convert the camera images to JPG format on
>the LX, or do you just use the companion desktop program to do the
>conversion?

Maybe Graphics Workshop (GWS) can now? My (very) old version run on any
computer and can convert between PCX, GIF, TGA, PCS, BMP etc. I have
GIF2JPG and JPG2GIF if that is any help.

I use CorelPaint (version 3) (partly because it is good and partly
because it can read TGA) plus the PhotoEnhancer (which cannot read TGA)
coming with the camera (nice program). My brother (the DC-20 pioneer in
the family) and my son use Adobe PhotoShop (a very good but expensive
program).

The source code to DC20TERM and DC2TOTGA software is available for
something like $20 if someone feels like making a DC-20->JPG conversion
program. DC2TOTGA come in two versions: DOS protected mode and W3.1.

I have never tried the LXDC software. Sounds interesting as LXPIC, PICEM
and PhotoEnhancer can read PCX.

Jorgen
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>1. Does the DC-25 have a timer?
Yes

>2. Were you using the external compact flash card with an adaptor to
>load the pix into the HP200LX?

No, I bought the card for that purpose, but my son never let me anyway
near the camera after he got hold of it. The dealer showed me a list that=

claimed compatibility with both HP-LX and DC-25 (and a number of other
computers/cameras). I cannot check it now as I am in London and my son
is studying in Denmark.

>3. What software did you originally use with the DC-25 to interface
>with the HP200LX?

None, as the DC20TERM does not work though the hardware should be much
the same. The inventor of the program believe that DC-25 send different
status codes back.

I personally cannot see much idea in transferring pictures from DC-25 to
the LX as viewing images the B/W CGA screen must be a pain. The
pre-viewer in the DC-25 is probably better, though small!

And yes, you can easily find a camera with better resolution and more
facilities. It all depends on what you want to use it for.

The DC-20 is plain fun, a useful notebook and the pictures small enough
to send as email in JPG or GIF format. I used to be a serious photo
amateur, my wife is a serious amateur, my son a coming professional
photographer. We have yet to see a digital picture that can match a
"real" picture in quality. We would also have to spend 5-10000 pounds to
get a camera just close to the Olympus SLR's we are used to.

Independently of which camera you contemplate buying: Go to the DC-20
site I mentioned earlier - there are links to happy Casio, Olympus,
Canon etc web-sites (with pictures), all of which will claim that
*their* camera is the best thing invented since bubblegum and CocaCola -
and they will probably all be right.

It is far easier to choose the right palmtop computer. There is only
*one*.

Jorgen

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>Also, don't forget sed, a more than `halfdead' language, but really cool=

Ah, so I have perhaps found a coming contributor? I must admit that SED h=
as
always been a foreign language to me.

>You know about the crazy seders mailing list, of course?

No, but sounds great - where is it?

Jorgen
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Hi all -

I have just acquired a copy of Ashton Tait's Applause presentation software
for DOS which says it supports CGA.

I can prepare a screen slide in CGA mode on my desktop but when I try to run
it on the 200lx using the included run-time module, it says that it does not
support the video mode.

Has anyone used Applause (v1.5) on the 200 and got it to work?



Brian Girling
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Date:         Sun, 11 Jan 1998 09:48:37 -0800
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Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:

> The DC-20 does not have a selftimer, so it is only suitable for your
> purpose if you have a long arm. ;8-)

With a 200LX running LXDC, the DC20 does have a timer.  I have a review up on
my site of the DC20 and its use with the 200LX.



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I know I've had the "New Years special coming soon..." up for a week or
so now with no update to the page, but the contest will be starting
sometime this week.  Just thought I'd let the people who've asked about
it, and everybody else, know that I'm not just leading you on.  :-)

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David R. Birch wrote:
>I have received from Jorgen Wallgren a video driver that seems to give
>full "CGA" graphics function of Acad R10 on my 200LX.  When exiting, it
>requires a three finger salute to restore the video to standard mode.  I
>also have not been able to get it to work with LaunchCAD, a ahareware
>Acad shell has that made R10 much more manageable.  No problem with
>EM87, though.  I've been using the arrow keys for cursor control, but
>that doesn' give access to the top and side menus, so I'm going to try
>HPmouse.  Are you interested in a copy of that driver?

Yes, I'm very interested. Please, send me a copy. My E-mail address is:
<dradic@sezampro.yu>. Thanks in advance.


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What format do these cameras use?  Is there a standard that they all
use, or is it by manufacturer?

David

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Hello again to all those AutoCAD 10 users.    I would like to run my DOS R10
on my LX200.   What do I need to do?  What part of the program can I delete to
save space?  What does this launching program do?   More info please!

Thank you!

Cathy

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I sent out the following request for help previously:

I copied the files to my A drive under a subdir called IS.

I ran the setup/install to my C drive.

In filer, I pressed enter on the is.exe file.  I get the Info Select welcome
screen and I press Alt-J to activate and I am bounced back to filer.

What do I need to do?

Tom Hoover instructed me to use a .bat file to launch in the non-TSR format.
I tried that and again it clicked me out.   I tried it on my desktop in DOS
and no problem.  What am I doing wrong?  I really want to run the program.

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On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 08:31:05 -0500, Jorgen wrote:

>I personally cannot see much idea in transferring pictures from DC-25 to
>the LX as viewing images the B/W CGA screen must be a pain. The
>pre-viewer in the DC-25 is probably better, though small!

I have a DC25, and had a look at the DC20 site.  Some of the codes =
returned
from the DC25 are indeed different, so I am slowly getting a program
together myself.  The reason to dump the image files into the HP is to =
make
use of the full sized PCMCIA cards I already own - it seems pointless to
buy yet another for the camera.  There will also be the possibility of
emailing pictures home from holiday trips using Nettamer :-)

>Independently of which camera you contemplate buying: Go to the DC-20
>site I mentioned earlier - there are links to happy Casio, Olympus,
>Canon etc web-sites (with pictures), all of which will claim that
>*their* camera is the best thing invented since bubblegum and CocaCola -
>and they will probably all be right.

It is indeed an excellent site, full of very useful information.

>It is far easier to choose the right palmtop computer. There is only
>*one*.

<grin> I think we all agree on that point.

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
Team 200LX UK
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Date:         Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:44:51 -0500
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I apologize if this is already covered in the FAQ, or in previous
discussions, but I had some questions regarding the HP200LX.

I want to use the HP200LX I have to pop my mail. What experiences
do members of this list have with PCMCIA network cards?

I'm interested primarily in network cards only, and my criteria are:

1)      reliability
2)      ease of installation / maintenance
3)      power concerns
4)      price

Also, what is a good recommendation for a PC style keyboard the
HP200LX? I suppose there aren't any keyboard / mouse combos that work
for the HP200LX, but it can't hurt to ask. :-)

I'll summarize the answers; I'm already comfortable with the development
suite I currently have on the HP i've got, but this would complete the
scene, as it were.

                                                        --wayne -

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Date:         Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:08:11 -0500
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If this is still available,I would like to purchase it.
$110 including shipping okay?
Let me know.
Thanks

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> From: Mary and Mike Kilpatrick <mikemary@MCIPNET.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: 200LX and digital cameras
> Date: Saturday, January 10, 1998 11:07 AM
>
> Robin,
>
> I have one of the DC-20's I would sell. It is one of the refurbished ones
> that the local superstores were selling for $99. It is still sealed in
the
> box, never opened, never used. Bought it this summer and probably still
> have receipt. I paid $99 plus tax and would take whatever I paid plus $3
> postage.
>
>
> Mike Kilpatrick
>
> At 08:13 AM 1/10/98 EST, you wrote:
> >Thank you, Jorgen.  I originally considered the Kodak DC-20 when a list
> >member said that they were $99 at Office Depot and Office Max.
> >
> > Does the Kodak DC-20 kit  provide everything
> >you need right out of the box?  If so, I will pursue it online.  For
$99, the
> >pictures don't have to be stellar quality just easy-on-the-eye without
too
> >much pixelation.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Robin
> >email:  RGBROWN@aol.com
> >
>
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Date:         Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:04:19 -0500
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>What format do these cameras use?  Is there a standard that they all
>use, or is it by manufacturer?

Sometimes even by camera (depending on how old the design is). It
appears like we are going to have only two main formats in the future as
a match for the world championchip in digital imaging is about to start:

In the left corner KODAK/Fuji and 28 friends (including HP, IBM,
Microsoft, Intel) with their EXIF format and in the right corner Canon
with 20 friends (including heavyweights such as Olympus, Casio, Nikon,
Minolta). No mention of where Sony is - they probably still remember the
VHS versus Betamax war and wisely stays on the sideline this time.

Both are JPEG derivatives, but of course incompatible.

The accompanying software will in any case be able to deliver the usual
formats: JPG, TIFF etc. + have a TWAIN interface.

Jorgen

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Subject:      Automatic Backup Program

Dear group:

I have just finished up packaging a piece of software that might be of
interest to some, and thought I would share it.

For the past 5 months, I've been tinkering w/ a program I wrote that
will do a daily, automatic backup of my palmtop to my flash card, that
was executed from the Appointment Manager. Its a DOS program that
executes under maxdos, that will do an incremental (ie. only if file
has been changed since last backup) or full backup of files that are
specified in a separate .ini file with regular directory masks. The
specifications can either be recursive or non-recursive. The overall
advantage is that the backup occurs in the middle of the night, and the
scheduled activity is automatically advanced to the next day.

I've included the .bat and macro file that I use for my procedure, as
well.

The way I've got it working is as follows: Sunday's at 3.00 am, a full
backup is performed for all those files specified in the .ini file.
Then on the other mornings at the same time I do an incremental
backup. My usual results are about a 450000 byte file for Sunday, and
about 150000 bytes for the other days. Of course. mileage may vary.

It is freeware in keeping with the spirit of the HP palmtop community
8). I will submit it to SUPER (Mitch... could you please let me know
of the address to which to send this?). I should mention that two other
packages are required to use this, both of which are also free...
Info-Zip utilities are already on SUPER, I believe. The other is DOS
grep, which can be located at the address indicated in the rbs.txt file
in my package.

The rbs.txt file has details about how to set it up. The rbs.ini file
also is very well documented. Please ask if I left out any pertinent
details.

If anyone wishes to comment/complain about anything regarding the
program, I'll be more than happy to listen.



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Comments: To: CSchlim <CSchlim@aol.com>

Text of message from CSchlim@aol.com, 11 Jan 1998, 03:20 PM
> I sent out the following request for help previously:
>
> I copied the files to my A drive under a subdir called IS.
>
> I ran the setup/install to my C drive.
>
> In filer, I pressed enter on the is.exe file.  I get the Info Select
> welcome screen and I press Alt-J to activate and I am bounced back to
> filer.
>
> What do I need to do?
>
> Tom Hoover instructed me to use a .bat file to launch in the non-TSR
> format.  I tried that and again it clicked me out.   I tried it on my
> desktop in DOS and no problem.  What am I doing wrong?  I really want to
> run the program.

Likely a memory problem.  Try running outside sysmgr (Terminate All).  I
run it under MaxDOS because it do like that RAM (and I run it in non-TSR
mode, BTW).

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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Mark,

Sounds interesting.

Does this program provide any advantages over running PKZip via a batch file that's
initiated by the Appointment app each night?

I have mine set up so that it creates a zipped archive file on my RAM card each night
at 11:30 pm.  I keep 7 different archive files, with the oldest being replaced each
night.  Also, I back up my system once a week.

Michael
--- On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:03:11 -0500  Mark Jordan <mjordan@mail.com> wrote:

>Dear group:
>
>I have just finished up packaging a piece of software that might be of
>interest to some, and thought I would share it.
>
>For the past 5 months, I've been tinkering w/ a program I wrote that
>will do a daily, automatic backup of my palmtop to my flash card, that
>was executed from the Appointment Manager. Its a DOS program that
>executes under maxdos, that will do an incremental (ie. only if file
>has been changed since last backup) or full backup of files that are
>specified in a separate .ini file with regular directory masks. The
>specifications can either be recursive or non-recursive. The overall
>advantage is that the backup occurs in the middle of the night, and the
>scheduled activity is automatically advanced to the next day.
>
>I've included the .bat and macro file that I use for my procedure, as
>well.
>
>The way I've got it working is as follows: Sunday's at 3.00 am, a full
>backup is performed for all those files specified in the .ini file.
>Then on the other mornings at the same time I do an incremental
>backup. My usual results are about a 450000 byte file for Sunday, and
>about 150000 bytes for the other days. Of course. mileage may vary.
>
>It is freeware in keeping with the spirit of the HP palmtop community
>8). I will submit it to SUPER (Mitch... could you please let me know
>of the address to which to send this?). I should mention that two other
>packages are required to use this, both of which are also free...
>Info-Zip utilities are already on SUPER, I believe. The other is DOS
>grep, which can be located at the address indicated in the rbs.txt file
>in my package.
>
>The rbs.txt file has details about how to set it up. The rbs.ini file
>also is very well documented. Please ask if I left out any pertinent
>details.
>
>If anyone wishes to comment/complain about anything regarding the
>program, I'll be more than happy to listen.
>
>
>
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>Par Computer Solutions, Inc., Grand Rapids, MI
>mjordan@mail.com
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Date:         Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:15:04 -0600
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              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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You can run it from SysMgr.

In the path type:

a:\is\is.exe N x200  where x is Shift - backslash combination

You should then be able to start the program from SysMgr and switch with the
built-in programs by uising Ctl-123 combination.

Also, when you get to the first screen do not use Alt-J as that works for a
TSR-type setup. Just hit the enter key.

I have been using it this way for several years and it works great.

Alan

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> From:          CSchlim <CSchlim@AOL.COM>
> Tom Hoover instructed me to use a .bat file to launch in the non-TSR format.
> I tried that and again it clicked me out.   I tried it on my desktop in DOS
> and no problem.  What am I doing wrong?  I really want to run the program.

Have you tried it from plain DOS on the palmtop?  It sounds as if
maybe you don't have enough memory allocated for your DOS box in
SysMgr.  I don't recall the minimum memory needed, but as long as it
runs fine from a DOS prompt on the palmtop, you can play with DOS
memory allocation, or use something like MaxDOS.


--
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    - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
     ------- finger thoover@pobox.com for PGP key --------

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Tom, through your persistence, I got the program to run.  I used the .bat file
and it worked.   I put it in the desktop by putting a pipe ( | ) at the end of
the command line.  Could not run it from the desktop without the .bat file.

Thank you so much.  I look forward to using this program!

Cathy

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 04:20:03 +0000
Message-ID: <19980112042001.AAA2711@12.64.39.238>

On 1998-01-11 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >The DC-20 is plain fun, a useful notebook and the pictures small
   >enough to send as email in JPG or GIF format.

My thoughts exactly, but I'd prefer not carrying anything with me except
the DC-20 and my 200LX. Unfortunately, I think I NEED the PhotoEnhancer
software (that came with the camera) to convert the raw image data into
something I can view on the LX and that I wouldn't be too ashamed to email
to someone. The PhotoEnhancer software looks like it's a Windows only pgm.

The LXDC program on the SUPER site is good for unloading the images, but
not for viewing, and as I said in an earlier note, the conversion to PCX
leaves a barely viewable image.

   >We have yet to see a digital
   >picture that can match a "real" picture in quality.

Amen. It's hard to shell out the bucks for a digital camera after 35mm.

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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Date:         Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:33:02 -0800
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Where do you find the previously-owned copies?

At 05:35 PM 1/10/98 -0600, you wrote:
>> From:          Cavendishl <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
>> I've seen several people recommend Sheir Systems as a source for LX related
>> items.  If my experience is at all typical, I recommend that one plan well
>> ahead when ordering there.  Admittedly, the ability to download 99% of the
>
>The reason that I've never ordered from them, is that I was unable to
>even get a price list sent to me (and I did try more than once).  I
>finally found previously-owned copies what I wanted (ABC/LX and
>Quick/LX) for a much better price.
>--
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Date:         Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:58:17 +0200
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I would like to ask if there is a program capable to defrag the HP200lx.
I am saying that because HP stands on the ver 5.0 of Dos.

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Date:         Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:18:33 -0800
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Norton's utilities work on my 100 LX, should run on the 200 as well.

At 06:58 AM 1/12/98 +0200, you wrote:
>I would like to ask if there is a program capable to defrag the HP200lx.
>I am saying that because HP stands on the ver 5.0 of Dos.
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Hi,

This is my first post to the list server.  Hope it works.

My question is "What is the practical limit for fortune cookies in
APPT.INI?"  I currently have 169 fortune cookies in APPT.INI, and I
plan to add a couple hundred more.  Is there is a physical limit (e.g.
999) to how many fortune cookies can be in APPT.INI?  Or is there a
practical limit (e.g. the 200LX slows down to a crawl at 500 fortune
cookies)?

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:37:40 +0100
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Dear Andreas:

Thanks for the nice vir-game (available on SUPER) you wrote for your wife.

My wife was fascinated too - so I didn't see her the whole weekend.
Unfortunately I didn't see my HP too.  :)

Dieter

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I have just modified an old 12V 2.5A power supply,
and connected  the 200LX to it.
Looks like its working fine ( no smoke : ).
I use LXPro to check the power and enable the mode charge.

BUT, my question is, is it normal you can't shich off the LX200
during the batteries charge?

regards
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
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Date:         Sun, 11 Jan 1998 23:16:38 -0800
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Alain Psyche wrote:

> I have just modified an old 12V 2.5A power supply,
> and connected  the 200LX to it.
> Looks like its working fine ( no smoke : ).

That's always a good sign.  :-)


> BUT, my question is, is it normal you can't shich off the LX200
> during the batteries charge?


Yes, and according to the faq, it's because the 200LX needs to be on to
monitor the battery voltage.
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Al
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Date:         Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:51:29 +0000
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1) thanx for this verry quick answer.
2) SORRY for the faq
I use to read then, but I wanted a fast answer
3)Sorry another time, and thank you.
:)
I can go to drink a beer now : )

> Yes, and according to the faq, it's because the 200LX needs to be on to
>
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
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Alain Psyche wrote:
>
> I have just modified an old 12V 2.5A power supply,
> and connected  the 200LX to it.
> Looks like its working fine ( no smoke : ).
> I use LXPro to check the power and enable the mode charge.
>
> BUT, my question is, is it normal you can't shich off the LX200
> during the batteries charge?
>
> regards
> Al
> Wyn@alphalink.com.au
> Melbourne / Australia
>
It certainly is, don't be surprised at this. Also, the contrast will
usually diminish. HP planned to reduce the contrast due to either the
voltage or temperature change but overshot their goal and the contrast
goes down. It comes back when the power is removed. I notice that when I
use a nice accurate 12 volt supply, the HP doesn't get so warm nor does
the contrast change so much.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Subject:      Re: Info Select...again

On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:20:39, CSchlim <CSchlim@AOL.COM> wrote:

> In filer, I pressed enter on the is.exe file.  I get the Info Select
> welcome screen and I press Alt-J to activate and I am bounced back to filer.
>
> What do I need to do?

The bounce back sounds like its due to lack of memory.
Try running it under Maxdos with the following .bat file:
maxdos is.exe






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Sometime ago someone mentioned the usage of:
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Can you tell also us how to setup this software?
I resigned after 90 minutes of trying to get some
ASCII knowledge from the Japanese documents.

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I am looking for something to take the place of the xcopy command in my batch
files on the HP 95LX.  The built-in version of DOS is 3.22.  I have various
copies of various versions, but nothing with exactly that version.  Do you have
any suggestions?

Bryan Pearson
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Onyx Graphics

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Does anyone have a way to convert the Kodak DC20's (digital camera)
imgxx.img files to something more useable? This must run on the LX.

I want to take my LX and DC20 on travels and email photos back home (or to
co-workers) without bringing along a notebook computer to do the
conversion. The LXDC program on SUPER saves the image in "raw" format
which isn't useable to any viewer. It does have a PCX conversion, but
it's VERY low-quality and loses most of the image features.

I have the 'cjpeg' program from simtel which will convert a variety of
formats (gif,ppm,pgm,tga) to jpg, but I first have to get the DC20 file
into one of the other formats.

Jorgen Dybdahl mentioned a website which had some utilities including one
that converts the raw format to .tga, but that requires either Windows or
XMS (not EMS). Another utility at that site (dc20term) downloads the
images to the LX but leaves the data in raw format.

Another Japanese site at:

        http://www.yk.rim.or.jp/~hideki/es1000/cmttoppm-e.html

has a C program to convert from the raw format to .ppm, which is
apparently used alot in Unix. Has anyone ever compiled/run this on the LX?
When I try to compile (with the large-model option), I'm getting alot of
errors ("auto variables exceed 32k in a single function").

Does anyone have any suggestions on making the above C program work, or
have a utility that runs on the LX that will convert the Kodak's raw image
file to jpeg? Thanks.

- Longden

PS I know the alternative is to get a better digital camera that saves its
images in jpeg format....but I'd rather not get into that just now.

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On Simtel Dos:

pcopy93d.zip   122K  96/05/22  Patriquin COPY, file copier with many options
+- Searching> l:\cdrom\GARBO
                          pcopy93.zip     Norm Patriquin's fabulous copy program


Is this REALLY 122K?  What is the executable size?

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:32:43 -0500
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>The LXDC program on the SUPER site is good for unloading the images, but=

>not for viewing, and as I said in an earlier note, the conversion to PCX=

>leaves a barely viewable image.

Barely viewable on the LX or in general? =


>Unfortunately, I think I NEED the PhotoEnhancer software

The photoenhancer is certainly a must! And I have long ago accepted that
Windows is "it" when it comes to massaging graphics files. Please tell
me I am wrong and I will be eternally grateful!

<Deep thoughts> ... <the sound of someone chewing words he emailed not
long ago to a list favoured by fanatics> ... <nervous laughter> ...

Hmm, ah, eh... Maybe one DO need a WinCE? <nervous grin>

But will the photoenhancer (W3.1 program) run under Win-CE?
Does it have a reasonable resolution?
Or is there a similar program for massaging images?  =


Jorgen

 "When I am right, nobody remembers...
  When I am wrong, nobody forgets!"

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On Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:11:01 -0800, Longden C. Loo wrote:

>Another Japanese site at:
>
>        http://www.yk.rim.or.jp/~hideki/es1000/cmttoppm-e.html
>
>has a C program to convert from the raw format to .ppm, which is
>apparently used alot in Unix. Has anyone ever compiled/run this on the =
LX?
>When I try to compile (with the large-model option), I'm getting alot of
>errors ("auto variables exceed 32k in a single function").

How coincidental!  I've been trying to get that very program to compile
this evening.  I'm using Borland C++ 4.5, and got rid of most of the =
array
size errors by using the huge keyword in every declaration.  This was =
fine
for all the declarations in function headers, but I can't get the actual
array declarations in the cmttoppm function to accept it.  If I put huge
in, I get "Conflicting type modifiers in function cmttoppm", and if I =
leave
it out I get "Array size too large in function cmttoppm". All the other
errors seem easily fixable:

I commented out the #include <unistd.h> and added #include <io.h>

and I still need to rework the main() function to get rid of the getopt()
stuff which Borland doesn't seem to have.

I'd welcome any clues with the array declarations.

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
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Sorry guys, some characters appear to have disappeared in the transmission. The
correct syntax is:

" MODE CON:RATE=32 DELAY=1 "

though other values might work as well, with slower results.

Francois

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> And I have long ago accepted that Windows is "it" when it comes to
> massaging graphics files. Please tell me I am wrong and I will be
> eternally grateful!
Er, the Mac is pretty good ... but I don't think you wanted to be wrong
in that particular way...       :)

> Hmm, ah, eh... Maybe one DO need a WinCE? <nervous grin>

I think both the virtues and flaws of windows and WinCE flow from your
observation: they are multi-media.

GUI's, images, sound and video crave memory and processing power. But
if you don't *need* them, text and binary files - the bread and butter
of unix, DOS and the beloved hplx - are *much* more efficient.



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Does anyone know the file dates and sizes for the most recent version
of post.exe, www.exe  and reader.exe - programs in D&A Soft's WWW/LX Plus.
I am having problems downloading mail and I want to double check that I have the
most recent versions of the programs (my problem being that post always
retrieves all the mail, not just the unretrieved messages)


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Greetings Fellow "Fanatics":

        Can anyone comment on the use of DSPEED.COM supplied with LXPIC
v6.0? I have a 2x crystal by T2Tech, and use TREMM to emulate EMS.
There is a screen flicker present in LXPic v6 that was not present
before.

- Has anyone had any problems replacing SPD31.SYS with DSPEED.COM?

TIA!

Cheers,
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On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:

> >The LXDC program on the SUPER site is good for unloading the images, but
> >not for viewing, and as I said in an earlier note, the conversion to PCX
> >leaves a barely viewable image.
>
> Barely viewable on the LX or in general?

In general. The pcx resulting from the 130k image file averages about
3-4k. A photo of my wife standing in front of a car was barely
recognizable as a person and a car even when the pcx file was displayed on
my desktop. In fairness, the documentation did stress that the pcx
conversion was a 2x blowup of the thumbnail, which loses alot of features
(and color) as a result.

>
> >Unfortunately, I think I NEED the PhotoEnhancer software
>
> The photoenhancer is certainly a must! And I have long ago accepted that
> Windows is "it" when it comes to massaging graphics files. Please tell
> me I am wrong and I will be eternally grateful!

I'm willing to dig a little to make you grateful <g>.

I really think that many of the pieces of software to make the DC20 images
into jpeg are out there, but maybe it'll just take some effort to find the
right things to do. The main problem is the limited number of existing
programs that can read and understand the Kodak raw image format. And yet
the sample programs I've seen seem to indicate that the format is not
difficult to work with. All it needs is a graphics oriented programmer
with time and inclination.

As I said, the 'cjpeg' conversion program from Simtel works on the LX and
converts from a variety of formats to jpeg and is only 91k. The task of
reading the raw data and converting it to jpeg directly on the LX doesn't
seem unworkable.

PhotoEnhancer is nice, but overkill for me. All I need it for is to
convert the raw image to TIF, then save to jpeg. If I could do that on the
LX, I could use LXPIC to do any other limited manipulations for viewing,
but more importantly I could use the image right away (ie for email).

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:17:19 -0800
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On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > Hmm, ah, eh... Maybe one DO need a WinCE? <nervous grin>
>
> I think both the virtues and flaws of windows and WinCE flow from your
> observation: they are multi-media.
>
> GUI's, images, sound and video crave memory and processing power. But
> if you don't *need* them, text and binary files - the bread and butter
> of unix, DOS and the beloved hplx - are *much* more efficient.

I agree. I certainly wouldn't want to make the LX do alot of
interactive graphics processing. All I want is a straight binary
conversion....and that limited task is certainly in the LX's bag of
tricks.

- Longden

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From: David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
>Alain Psyche wrote:
>
>> I have just modified an old 12V 2.5A power supply,
>> and connected  the 200LX to it.
>> Looks like its working fine ( no smoke : ).
>
>That's always a good sign.  :-)

About 2 years ago, I attached a cheap multi-voltage
adapter, and with in seconds, the strong smell of
burning plastic comes out, and the 200LX flashes and
turns off.  I pulled the plug off after about 5 seconds.

Good thing, the palmtop still works, and fine just as before
except for the strong smell of burning plastic from the socket.

That smell lasted for months.

            Yi

(Unfortunately, a year later, my palmtop's screen got crushed
 between the door frame of a car....)

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Subject:      Re: Automatic Backup Program

No real advantage over doing your method, except that the program is
probably a little more enhanced at specifying which files to backup.

There exists four sections in the rbs.ini file: 1) Include/recurse, 2)
include/no recurse, 3) exclude/recurse, & 4) exclude/no recurse. For
instance, I could have the following spec, c:\?db, in the 1st section,
that would backup all HP 200LX database files. Then in the second
section, could specify c:\mydocs\*.* which would only backup those
files in that absolute directory.

The other 2 sections allow one to specify exceptions to the include
sections. For example, I might specify in the 3rd section to exclude
c:\appt19??.adb since these are my annual archive files for Appt. Mgr.,
and I might specify in the 4th section to exclude
c:\mydocs\verybig.doc, but only in that directory.

Whatever method is used, I always say that if some method works, why
change it! Nevertheless, I offer this to anyone that might wish
to use it and benefit... I believe it may make it easier to setup,
especially for those who don't want to mess around w/PKZip directly.

By the way, I've also included in the distribution a .bat file that
will perform the same reciprication of archives, keeping the last 8
archives.

On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:06:36 -0500 you wrote:
> Mark,

> Sounds interesting.

> Does this program provide any advantages over running PKZip via a batch
> file that's
> initiated by the Appointment app each night?

> I have mine set up so that it creates a zipped archive file on my RAM card
> each night
> at 11:30 pm.  I keep 7 different archive files, with the oldest being
> replaced each
> night.  Also, I back up my system once a week.

> Michael

snip


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Hi Mark,
sounds very good, -but, finally, where do I get Your programm? I watched at
the mentioned Super-Site, but I could'nt find it there the last days.
Bye, Axel

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     Hello!

     Can someone send me gwbasic for dos5.0 to put on my 200lx.

     Thanks Yehuda.

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Dear Yehuda,

Think about using QuickBasic instead of GWBasic.
I do some programming (telemetry datalogger using RS232 port to control a ICOM
IC-R10 receiver and sampling radio-signal level)in QB4.5 on the 200LX, and it's
working fine.

In QB, you can put some more structure in your software I suppose.....

Sincerely yours,

Willem van der Veer


Institute for Forestry and Nature Research
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On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, J S wrote:

>      Can someone send me gwbasic for dos5.0 to put on my 200lx.
>
>      Thanks Yehuda.

I thought that gwbasic was replaced by qbasic by DOS 5.0

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:06:21 -0500
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GWBasic is the basic interpreter used by PCDOS, it is not M$$$$ product.
It is an alternative to MSDOS Basic for those of us that did not use MS
DOS
with its Basic interpreter.   It does work on the HP200LX and under
Novel 7.0
DOS. It will allow basic programs to run it is about 90K in size.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Longden C. Loo SMTP:lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 08:41
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>
> On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, J S wrote:
>
> >      Can someone send me gwbasic for dos5.0 to put on my 200lx.
> >
> >      Thanks Yehuda.
>
> I thought that gwbasic was replaced by qbasic by DOS 5.0
>
> - Longden
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> >Anyone know where I can find an icon viewer for the LX that displays a
> >page of icons at a time?

Many thanks to all who responded on this. Once again, this group has come
thru for me and I'm grateful to have this kind of dialogue available.

Owen Samuelson has posted his modified version of Gilles Kohl's ICNVU
program (normally included with the PAL library, I understand) to the
SUPER site. Owen has made modifications including one to display 44 icons
per screen (up from the original 24).

Other suggestions were also useful to know:

- "icon view" at the Jonin site displays 30 icons per screen, but is
slower than ICNVU. However, iconview includes a collection of very nicely
done icons by Don Puscher.

- LXPIC (the latest version) also displays multiple icons per screen, but
I preferred the image format in ICNVU (plus ICNVU hooks to the built-in
icon editor to allow you to make changes).

- Longden

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On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:

> GWBasic is the basic interpreter used by PCDOS, it is not M$$$$ product.
> It is an alternative to MSDOS Basic for those of us that did not use MS
> DOS with its Basic interpreter.

Stephen, I beg to differ.

As I understand it, the "GW" in gwbasic stands for William Gates (it was
his early programming effort and later pet application), and gwbasic was
included on my Leading Edge computer running MS DOS 3.2 (not PC DOS) back
in 80-something.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jan 1998 06:15:20 PST
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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 Subject: Re: 200LX and digital cameras
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>Date:    Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:58:17 +0200
>From:    Euclides <ca6gan@ISIS.SUNDERLAND.AC.UK>
>I would like to ask if there is a program capable to defrag the HP200lx.
>I am saying that because HP stands on the ver 5.0 of Dos.

In general you don't need to defray the HPLX because you only have ram
disks which don't suffer rotational delay and head seeks like a hard
drive or diskette drive does.

The 2 cases where you do need to defrag the disk is when building a swap
file for Software Carousel (which comes with a defrager) and creating a
volume for Secure Device.  Disk compression like Stacker might also
need it but I'm not sure as I don't use it.

That said, I still defrag my disks occasionally just because I like a
tidy disk and I've got the utilities so why not use them.

Cheers...
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Date:         Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:23:52 +0100
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              STEVENS Jef <jef.stevens@EUROCONTROL.BE>
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Hi all,


2 quick questions:

1/  is there a tool out there which can synchronize schedule+ and/or MS
Outlook with the appointment book on the 200LX?
2/ is there a way to increase the number of applications in the
application manager?  More specifically to add applications (and icons!)
to the application manager?

Thanks for your replies,

Jef
email: jef.stevens@eurocontrol.be

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:07:27 +0800
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              Chong Chneah <chneah@CYBERWAY.COM.SG>
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Can the WWW/LX be used to surf the net, read email and the news?

Can it be used if my ISP states that the minimum CPU supported is 486?

please help. Thanks in advance


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> From: Stacy Marsella <marsella@ISI.EDU>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Version of POST/LX
> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 8:47 AM
>
> Does anyone know the file dates and sizes for the most recent version
> of post.exe, www.exe  and reader.exe - programs in D&A Soft's WWW/LX
Plus.
> I am having problems downloading mail and I want to double check that I
have the
> most recent versions of the programs (my problem being that post always
> retrieves all the mail, not just the unretrieved messages)
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Stacy
>
> (marsella@isi.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:08:34 -0500
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Subject:      IRDA

I was at a computer show this weekend, looking at motherboards. Some
have an IRDA connector on them, and I was thinking that I could use it
to communicate with the 200LX. Has anyone done this, and if so, where
did you get the IR transceiver and driver software (if needed (I run
Win95 and Linux))? Are there different versions of IRDA connector on the
motherboard that I need to worry about? Don't know too much about this
subject, and was hoping someone could enlighten me....


David Satterfield
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I'm having trouble downloading all of my e-mail with Nettamer 1.101 (I
think that is the correct version).  The program appears to go through and
download all of the e-mail, but when it's done with that, and gives you a
chance to read them, there are only two or three present.  Has anyone
experienced this problem?  I've heard that the new version has had some of
these problems, which are not present in the earlier versions.

Would someone have version 1.08 or 1.09 that I could try?

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On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, David Satterfield - High End Server Systems wrote:
> I was at a computer show this weekend, looking at motherboards. Some
> have an IRDA connector on them, and I was thinking that I could use it
> to communicate with the 200LX. Has anyone done this, and if so, where
> did you get the IR transceiver and driver software (if needed (I run
> Win95 and Linux))? Are there different versions of IRDA connector on the

My motherboard has that.  I've never seen the IR device to hook up to it,
but I assume the Radio Shack IR module would be compatible.

                                       BUT
The IRDA driver for the palmtop works only for printing, not for file
transfer.  You would need to have a printer with IRDA.


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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:26:07 +0100
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Due to a low battery warning which I oversaw all my data were erased from my
a: drive. Check which came with the stacker advises me to use chkdsk in
order to repair the flaws on my card.
Could anyone email me a chkdsk for the DOS version 5 because I hate the
thought to format and restack my card.


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Date:         Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:20:32 +0100
Reply-To:     Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@diku.dk>
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On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

> Due to a low battery warning which I oversaw all my data were erased from my
> a: drive. Check which came with the stacker advises me to use chkdsk in
> order to repair the flaws on my card.
> Could anyone email me a chkdsk for the DOS version 5 because I hate the
> thought to format and restack my card.
>
chkdsk.exe is already on the LX, in either D:\BIN or D:\DOS.

Regards,

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On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:
>
> > GWBasic is the basic interpreter used by PCDOS, it is not M$$$$ product.
> > It is an alternative to MSDOS Basic for those of us that did not use MS
> > DOS with its Basic interpreter.
>
> Stephen, I beg to differ.
>
> As I understand it, the "GW" in gwbasic stands for William Gates (it was
> his early programming effort and later pet application), and gwbasic was
> included on my Leading Edge computer running MS DOS 3.2 (not PC DOS) back
> in 80-something.

The "Gates, William" thing is an urban legend.  In any case, it was an MS
product. PC-DOS had BASICA instead, sometimes it was an interpreter, but
early versions merely loaded the BASIC stored in ROM (this way it would
only work on IBM-PCs, since they were the only ones with BASIC in ROM).
They are however, 99% compatible so it doesn't really matter.

This has been discussed at great length in alt.folklore.computers several
times.

Regards,

Laust

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              Mike Schiraldi <mgs21@COLUMBIA.EDU>
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>The IRDA driver for the palmtop works only for printing, not for file
>transfer.  You would need to have a printer with IRDA.


Huh? In the Filer Menu, under Communications ... Remote Settings, you can
select Infrared. Then, in the Transfile program, you just tell it to use
whatever serial port the IRDA represents.

Seeing that IR discussion is coming up again, i'm going to ask again: Hey,
programmers: How do i access the IR port? ASM/C/Pascal, whatever, just show
me Init, Read, and Write functions. Do i just treat it like a regular serial
port? If so, what's the address?

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:51:08 -0800
Reply-To:     David Sargeant <davidsa@accessnv.com>
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On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Mike Schiraldi wrote:

> Huh? In the Filer Menu, under Communications ... Remote Settings, you can
> select Infrared. Then, in the Transfile program, you just tell it to use
> whatever serial port the IRDA represents.

I think the problem is that the 200LX's infrared protocol is pre-IRDA.
According to the Developer's Guide, it's a format called REDEYE.

> Seeing that IR discussion is coming up again, i'm going to ask again: Hey,
> programmers: How do i access the IR port? ASM/C/Pascal, whatever, just show
> me Init, Read, and Write functions. Do i just treat it like a regular serial
> port? If so, what's the address?

There's a big section on the IR port in the Developer's Guide.  I wonder
if it's a violation of copyright to copy portions of it...

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     Hi!
     If the IR is only for printing how come i can transfer files from my
     palmtop to my coworkers?


     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-Dskramer (Dskramer@concentric.net) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    1/13/98 10:33 AM


On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, David Satterfield - High End Server Systems wrote:
> I was at a computer show this weekend, looking at motherboards. Some
> have an IRDA connector on them, and I was thinking that I could use it
> to communicate with the 200LX. Has anyone done this, and if so, where
> did you get the IR transceiver and driver software (if needed (I run
> Win95 and Linux))? Are there different versions of IRDA connector on the

My motherboard has that.  I've never seen the IR device to hook up to it,
but I assume the Radio Shack IR module would be compatible.

                                       BUT
The IRDA driver for the palmtop works only for printing, not for file
transfer.  You would need to have a printer with IRDA.


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On Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:18:23, Claud G. Cameron

> Would someone have version 1.08 or 1.09 that I could try?

Glad to Claud,

I'll send you version 1.09.2. because versions 1.09 - 1.09.1 had some
problems. Can't remember what they were though!

I also have version 1.08, but try 1.09.2 first. (:-)







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I am a published writer....the only problem copying a portion of a book and
violating the copyright is when you do it for profit.   If you copy something
for personal info...whether it be a book or mag...and you aren't doing it for
profit...then it is ok.   If you take something that someone is selling and
your distribution stops a sale (such as software duplication which is governed
by the same laws) then you are violating a copyright.  Hope this makes
sense....

Cathy

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On  Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:26:07, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

> Could anyone email me a chkdsk for the DOS version 5 because I hate the
> thought to format and restack my card.

Hi Constant,

Chkdsk.exe can be found in your d:\dos palmtop directory.
But I think maybe you're looking for check.exe that came with Stacker.

If so let me know and I'll be glad to send you a copy.




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Date:         Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:09:14 -0500
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Just checked an this program is available at the SUPER site.  Check new programs.

--- On Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:48:22 +0000  Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE> wrote:

>Hi Mark,
>sounds very good, -but, finally, where do I get Your programm? I watched at
>the mentioned Super-Site, but I could'nt find it there the last days.
>Bye, Axel
>

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              Tom Hoover <thoover@POBOX.COM>
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> Where do you find the previously-owned copies?

You just have to watch the newsgroups and/or this mailing list until
you see used copies for sale.
--
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Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:42:00 +0100
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On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Bryan Pearson wrote:

> I am looking for something to take the place of the xcopy command in my batch
> files on the HP 95LX.  The built-in version of DOS is 3.22.  I have various
> copies of various versions, but nothing with exactly that version.  Do you have
> any suggestions?
>
I presume the versions of Xcopy you have don't work on the LX?

Anyway, Garbo (garbo.uwasa.fi) has this file:

ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/filecopy/zcopy31.zip

It calls it a "Freeware replacement for Xcopy". It might work and it isn't
that big, the zip is ~40kb.

Check it out!

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On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Bryan Pearson wrote:

> On Simtel Dos:
>
> pcopy93d.zip   122K  96/05/22  Patriquin COPY, file copier with many options
> +- Searching> l:\cdrom\GARBO
>                           pcopy93.zip     Norm Patriquin's fabulous copy program
>
>
> Is this REALLY 122K?  What is the executable size?

No, the executable size is 170kb, PKlited it is 86kb (but pklite will
slow down execution speed considerably).
I must admit, however, that Pcopy is probably overkill. It is _very_
advanced with tons of features and a GUI (which will no doubt be
cumbersome on the 95LX) but was it such a program you were looking for you
wouldn't have asked for an Xcopy clone :-)

Regards,

Laust

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As I understand it, GWBasic is short for Gee-Wiz Basic.
I read that from an article written by Bill Gates himself
many years ago in Byte magazine.

            Yi

From: Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
>On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:
>>
>> > GWBasic is the basic interpreter used by PCDOS, it is not M$$$$
product.
>> > It is an alternative to MSDOS Basic for those of us that did not use MS
>> > DOS with its Basic interpreter.
>>
>> Stephen, I beg to differ.
>>
>> As I understand it, the "GW" in gwbasic stands for William Gates (it was
>> his early programming effort and later pet application), and gwbasic was
>> included on my Leading Edge computer running MS DOS 3.2 (not PC DOS) back
>> in 80-something.
>
>The "Gates, William" thing is an urban legend.  In any case, it was an MS
>product. PC-DOS had BASICA instead, sometimes it was an interpreter, but
>early versions merely loaded the BASIC stored in ROM (this way it would
>only work on IBM-PCs, since they were the only ones with BASIC in ROM).
>They are however, 99% compatible so it doesn't really matter.
>
>This has been discussed at great length in alt.folklore.computers several
>times.

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Can the nettammer be used to assess the net, read email and newsgroup?

If my ISP apecify that it only supports at least 486 cpu, can I assess the
next with nettammer?

How does nettammer compares with www/lx

Is this a commercial software, how much and where to get it

Thanks!

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Sigh! In a moment of weakness, I shelled out S$1499 to buy the latest colour
WinCE hpc from HP, the 620LX. It's a very nice machine, but I didn't realise it
was quite so large --  I can't carry it around the way I usually carry the
200LX, in my pants backpocket. So is there any one out there (I suppose
preferably in *Singapore*) who wants to buy it off me (it's brand new, bought
on 11 Jan 98)? Send me a direct email ... I'll wait for the highest bid within
the week, until Sun 18 Jan 98.

jasonyap
(jason_yap@moh.gov.sg)

cc Chaikin: Any of your many contacts? :-)

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At 01:25 PM 1/13/98 -0700, you wrote:
>     Hi!
>     If the IR is only for printing how come i can transfer files from my
>     palmtop to my coworkers?

because you aren't using IRDA -- you're using the 200LX pre-IRDA interface.

John Stafford -- http://pw2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.html --
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Subject:      Re: Any body wanna buy a HP620LX?

> Sigh! In a moment of weakness, I shelled out S$1499 to buy the latest colour
> WinCE hpc from HP, the 620LX. It's a very nice machine, but I didn't realise it
> was quite so large --  I can't carry it around the way I usually carry the
> 200LX, in my pants backpocket. So is there any one out there (I suppose
> preferably in *Singapore*) who wants to buy it off me (it's brand new, bought
> on 11 Jan 98)? Send me a direct email ... I'll wait for the highest bid within
> the week, until Sun 18 Jan 98.
>
> jasonyap
> (jason_yap@moh.gov.sg)

I wouldn't expect to get that much for it, at least not in US dollars. they
sell new for around 850 USD from local retailers.

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Business Division
Tidewater Community College

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Hello everybody.
After reading C P Wong's mail on last Jan 6, I was encouraged to try to
install D-mail (2.2) in my 200LX 2MB (+EXP 4MB data/modem card).
As he suggested I am using epppd (from Antonio Lopez's PPPD) and chat
(PPPD) for connection.  As far as establishing PPP packet driver to RAM,
I was successful.
But when I tried to use dmail (for packet driver) to check my incoming
mails, it failed. It seemed that Dmail could not recognize that there
had been packet driver in memory.

I believe that my problem has something to do with IP address since my
ISP gave me dynamic IP address.  I read in some materials that we could
solve it out by "bootp".  But I do not know how to set it up with Dmail
or whether Dmail supports it.  I could not  consult with Dmail's English
manual since it mentioned a little about it.

Can someone in the list help me please?

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Xcopy was introduced with DOS 3.x (I forget which).
Maybe it was 3.3. Xcopy from Dos 6.2 works fine on my
100LX (Dos 5.0). Have you tried it?

Simtel DOS has 240 pgms that "copy".
The following are fairly small and in both Simtel and Garbo collections:

icopy121.zip   14K  910618  Enhanced copy program with many options
mmv10.zip     56K  891121  Move/copy/append multiple files with wildcards
ocp11eng.zip  16K  950306  Copy command optimizer; optimally fill disk
quick10.zip   33K  940615  Lets you load, cd, and xcopy/move by alias
stufr01.zip   10K  880722  Backup, archive, disk file copy
tcopy10.zip   6K   891130  TCOPY v1.0: Multi-featured copy utility
zcopy31.zip     Freeware XCOPY replacement C.Buijs

Bryan Pearson wrote:

> I am looking for something to take the place of the xcopy command in my batch
> files on the HP 95LX.  The built-in version of DOS is 3.22.  I have various
> copies of various versions, but nothing with exactly that version.  Do you have
> any suggestions?
>
> Bryan Pearson
> Tech Support
> Onyx Graphics
>
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David Satterfield - High End Server Systems wrote:
>
> I was at a computer show this weekend, looking at motherboards. Some
> have an IRDA connector on them, and I was thinking that I could use it
> to communicate with the 200LX. Has anyone done this, and if so, where
> did you get the IR transceiver and driver software (if needed (I run
> Win95 and Linux))? Are there different versions of IRDA connector on the
> motherboard that I need to worry about? Don't know too much about this
> subject, and was hoping someone could enlighten me....
>
> David Satterfield
> Sun Microsystems, Inc.            Phone:     (508) 442-2669
> 5 Omni Way, MS UCHL05-105         Fax:       (508) 442-1612
> Chelmsford, MA 01824              E-mail:    david.satterfield@east.sun.com
>
I have been wondering about some of the same points that you mention. I
found some information at; http://www.jeyeye.com/prodinfo . This didn't
answer all of my questions but was a start. One thing that I feel like I
have a great lack of understanding is the following. I have heard that
the HP200LX is older than the IRDA standard and thus does not conform.
However, clever people have made the IR port emulate TV remote control
transmitters and thus, I suspect that the function is not cast in
concrete and can be altered if needed. If you find anything useful,
please drop me a line.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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> Sigh! In a moment of weakness, I shelled out S$1499 to buy the latest colour
> WinCE hpc from HP, the 620LX.

> It's a very nice machine, but I didn't
> realise it was quite so large --  I can't carry it around the way I
> usually carry the
> 200LX, in my pants backpocket. So is there any one out there (I suppose
> preferably in *Singapore*) who wants to buy it off me (it's brand new, bought
> on 11 Jan 98)? Send me a direct email ... I'll wait for the highest bid within
> the week, until Sun 18 Jan 98.

I hope you are advertising elewhere, as well as on this hpDOSlx mailing
list... :)


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Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:37:49 -1
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              Bas Pruijn <126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL>
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I tried this before, but without any reaction. I can hardly believe I am the
only one who wants this. What I now do is the following:
* start up filer on both machines
* copy the app.?db and phone.?db files from machine 1 c:\_dat to machine 2
c:\ and from machine 2 c:\_dat to machine 1 c:\
* I close filer on both machines.
* On both machines start the appointment manager.
* use file merge with the file from the other machine
* do the same with the phonebook
* go to filer and delete the .?db files in c:\ on both machines

I think there *must* be an easier way.

Any reaction is (more than) welcome.

Bas



On 1998-01-07 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >I have a simple question, but can't find out how to do this
   >*really* simple.
   >I want to synchronise 2 hp200lx's (their appts en phone-database)
   >using the IR port. Can this easily be done?
   >Bas

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> I was at a computer show this weekend, looking at motherboards. Some
> have an IRDA connector on them, and I was thinking that I could use it
> to communicate with the 200LX. Has anyone done this, and if so, where
> did you get the IR transceiver and driver software (if needed (I run
> Win95 and Linux))? Are there different versions of IRDA connector on the
> motherboard that I need to worry about? Don't know too much about this
> subject, and was hoping someone could enlighten me....

There is a lot of information about IRDA on the WWW, but it's hard to put it
together in a way which makes sense.

Some ideas:

1. Several firms make transceivers which plug into the IRDA connector on
PC motherboards. Have a look at http://www.actisys.com which also has some
general documentation on IRDA.

2. It is also possible to buy the transceiver component (HP sell the HDSL-1001, see
http://www2.hp.com/HP-COMP/ir/hsdl1001.html) and presumably one could build
one's own device to plug into the motherboard. However I suspect that there is a
significant risk of damage to the motherboard due to the high current flow when the
LED transmitter is on (there was an article on the SMC site with many fearsome
warnings: see http://www.smsc.com/main/appnotes/an76.html).

3. Microsoft provide IRDA drivers with documentation for Win95/NT, direct links are on the
Actisys site (see above).

4. IRDA transceivers with appropriate drivers normally appear as COM ports to other
software (eg file transfer software).

What it would be nice to know is: if one installs an Actisys (or similar) IRDA transceiver
on the PC, and the Microsoft IRDA drivers, and if one sets up the HP200LX in infrared comms
mode, is any useful communication possible? Somebody must at least have tried this?

John Allen

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On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, mdstockr wrote:

> Just checked an this program is available at the SUPER site.  Check new programs.
>

Sorry, I'm a newcomer to this list. What is the SUPER site?

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>> Sigh! In a moment of weakness, I shelled out S$1499 to buy the latest colour
>> WinCE hpc from HP, the 620LX. It's a very nice machine, but I didn't realise
<snip>
>I wouldn't expect to get that much for it, at least not in US dollars. they
>sell new for around 850 USD from local retailers.
<snip>
>Peter W. Borders
>Network Support Technician
>Business Division

Well, that's about right. it's *Singapore*$1499, approx US$833 at the current
terrible conversion rate of about 1.8 to 1.
Anyway, I know I won't get back all the money ... just thought I'd try my luck.
Highest (reasonable) bid secures. Come to think of it, if any body has an
unneeded but serviceable PCMCIA 40MB flashcard, I wouldn't mind taking that as
part exchange. A quick telephone call gets me a quote of about $1250 for a 40MB
card, so it's in the region.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:37:53 -0000
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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The 200LX IR port is a SIR (Serial Infra Red) standard port.  As folk say it
predates IRDA and will not talk to it.  I've tried this, with the latest MS
IR 2.0 IRDA driver - it does not even detect a device there.  The palmtop
does see some gibber every time the laptop polls.  Having read up more on
this I'm not surprised, and it can't work.

But all thse IR devices can be driven differently.  You can get (Not sure if
from HP or SUPER) an IRDA driver for the 200LX, but that is only for
printing; it will drive (they say) printers with an IRDA transceiver (hmm,
might only be a receiver) - e.g. the HP Laserjet 6 range, the Laserjet 340
with the IR eye - and others, using the many add-on IR -to -parallel
adapters that exist.  That driver expressly says that it does not provide a
generic IRDA port, i.e. you can't use it as a COM port for other software.

Other software for the PC (like Intellilink) can drive the PC's IR port in
SIR mode, so it *can* do file transfer.  I can't remember if the
connectivity pack supported IR or not.  I don't know of a package that
allows you a COM port on the PC routed through this SIR driver either.   If
you want to use IR for file transfer or redirection, you are looking for PC
software to do this, I don;t think LX software currently exists - and
frankly the number of people who would write a full IRDA COM driver for the
LX is only matched by the number who would write a full SIR driver for the
PC...

The ideal would be for TRANSFILE 200 to be enhanced with IR support...but I
noted with Intellilink that it clocks the IR down to 9600, where it will run
a cable 'faster' - does not seem to be 115k, but 'faster'.  So yes it saves
carrying that serial cable, but (a) it's slow and (b) my laptop has the eye
on the back only, so I have to perch the 200LX on the windowsill....

William D.Ll.Brown

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At 10:23 1/14/98 +0100, you wrote:
>On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, mdstockr wrote:
>
>> Just checked an this program is available at the SUPER site.  Check new
programs.
>>
>
>Sorry, I'm a newcomer to this list. What is the SUPER site?
>
SUPER is a website with a whole bunch of HP100/200LX shareware and freeware
programs for download. It's located at http://www.palmtop.net/super.html

Best Regards,
Owen KU4ET

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              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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On 1998-01-13 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
 HP>> Could anyone email me a chkdsk for the DOS version 5
 HP>Chkdsk.exe can be found in your d:\dos palmtop directory.
 HP>But I think maybe you're looking for check.exe that came with
 HP>Stacker. If so let me know and I'll be glad to send you a copy.
Thanks for the offer. In the meantime I found everything I needed including
Check.exe.
I have a 5Mb HP Flashcard with stacker V3 on it. After reinstalling with
my 4 day old backup, I found that I have Drive allocation
5.114.208 (file sizes) on 9.256.960 (sectors) with a free space of 524.288
and a drive capacity of 9.781.248 (Bytes). According to check from Stacker I
have no errors (any more) and a compression ratio of 1,5:1
I know that I have some unzipped files on my flash disk for later unzipping
but still I have the feeling that I am missing some bytes. Can somebody help
me with the understanding of the missing bytes?



> LIFE WAS EASIER BEFORE MICROSOFT!!!!!!!!!

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:48:10 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Comments: To: Bas Pruijn <126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL>
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Bas,

I don't think the LX supports (easy) synchronization at the record level.
There probably aren't that many people who need to synchronize 2 LX's
databases.

I have 2 units, but one is just a backup and when I need to put it to use,
I synchronize files but not records.

This is not to say that your request is unreasonable. This is just my
opinion on why there hasn't been many responses.

In regards to your current method, why not just copy data from machine 2
to machine 1, then do the merge on machine 1, then copy the merged data
files to machine 2. That would cut out an extra merge.

- Longden

On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Bas Pruijn wrote:

> I tried this before, but without any reaction. I can hardly believe I am the
> only one who wants this. What I now do is the following:
> * start up filer on both machines
> * copy the app.?db and phone.?db files from machine 1 c:\_dat to machine 2
> c:\ and from machine 2 c:\_dat to machine 1 c:\
> * I close filer on both machines.
> * On both machines start the appointment manager.
> * use file merge with the file from the other machine
> * do the same with the phonebook
> * go to filer and delete the .?db files in c:\ on both machines
>
> I think there *must* be an easier way.
>
> Any reaction is (more than) welcome.
>
> Bas
>
> On 1998-01-07 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
>    >I have a simple question, but can't find out how to do this
>    >*really* simple.
>    >I want to synchronise 2 hp200lx's (their appts en phone-database)
>    >using the IR port. Can this easily be done?
>    >Bas

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On Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:00:10 -0500, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>From:    CSchlim <CSchlim@AOL.COM>
>Subject: Re: IRDA
>
>the only problem copying a portion of a book and
>violating the copyright is when you do it for profit.   If you copy
something
>for personal info...whether it be a book or mag...and you aren't doing it
for
>profit...then it is ok.   If you take something that someone is selling
and
>your distribution stops a sale (such as software duplication which is
governed
>by the same laws) then you are violating a copyright.  Hope this makes
>sense....

Americans (especially abandonware advocates?) might also want to check out
the newly passed "No Electronic Theft Act" which criminalizes infringements
based on value of the items, apparently without any need to prove that the
infringing partied benefitted or prevented a sale. You can be fined USD
$100,000 and imprisoned for 1 year for as little as USD $1000 in
violations. USD $2500 can get you three years in the big house. Kinda
scary. Anybody remember the 8th amendment?
  http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/9236.html

-Peter

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Subject:      Re: gwbasic

     Thank You all or teaching me the history and the evolution of the
     basic language.
     I want gwbasic because it is small and easy to use.
     Does some have it?

     Thanks Yehuda.



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Author:  PC:yernst@ndc.co.il at INTERNET2
Date:    1/13/98 2:11 PM


     Hello!

     Can someone send me gwbasic for dos5.0 to put on my 200lx.

     Thanks Yehuda.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:14:14 -0500
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              David Spoelstra <davids@MEDIAMACHINE.COM>
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OK, let me say that yes, absolutely, you can communicate back and forth to
the HP200lx from a PC using the built-in IR port.  I do it all the time
between my HP200lx and my Compaq Armada 1590 using HP's free Transfile
Win200 software.

All I did to make this work was to change the IR drivers my Compaq used to
the HP IR drivers on the Win95 disk.  Then I fired up Transfile and bingo,
there was my HP200lx's directory showing up in the window.

-David

P.S.  Please don't ask me for any more info - the above is really all I
did, and all I know about making this work.  I just wanted everyone to
know that yes you can do it.  Also, I *DO NOT* have the HP IRDA Printer
Drivers loaded.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:32:45 -0600
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              Stan Walls <Ib271t5@SMTPAOC.TSC.STATE.TN.US>
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why don't you  return it  and get your money back?

>>> Jason Yap <Jason_YAP@MOH.GOV.SG> 01/13/98 07:53PM >>>
Sigh! In a moment of weakness, I shelled out S$1499 to buy the latest colour
WinCE hpc from HP, the 620LX. It's a very nice machine, but I didn't realise it
was quite so large --  I can't carry it around the way I usually carry the
200LX, in my pants backpocket. So is there any one out there (I suppose
preferably in *Singapore*) who wants to buy it off me (it's brand new, bought
on 11 Jan 98)? Send me a direct email ... I'll wait for the highest bid within
the week, until Sun 18 Jan 98.

jasonyap
(jason_yap@moh.gov.sg)

cc Chaikin: Any of your many contacts? :-)

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              "thomas e. nemeth" <103153.2417@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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First problem - somehow my appt.adb would not run when I pressed green ap=
pt
key on my 200lx.  I ran garlic and it brought it back but w/o any entries=

in appt.How can I recover the entries or am I up the creek w/o a paddle?
Second problem - is that although I can bring up Filer and Phone, if I
press &More key the screen goes blank.
Cntrl-Alt-Del does not bring it up either so I have to Cntrol-Shift-On an=
d
then No for reformatting.
What do I do to fix this?
Noticed this happened when I used te HP next to my Compaq Aero.  Could  R=
F
emanations have caused the problem? I have a double speed/8meg HP.
Thanks for any and all help.
Tom =

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 1998 07:45:22 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, thomas e. nemeth wrote:

> First problem - somehow my appt.adb would not run when I pressed green appt
> key on my 200lx.  I ran garlic and it brought it back but w/o any entries
> in appt.How can I recover the entries or am I up the creek w/o a paddle?

Use your backups....that's your paddle.

> Second problem - is that although I can bring up Filer and Phone, if I
> press &More key the screen goes blank.
> Cntrl-Alt-Del does not bring it up either so I have to Cntrol-Shift-On and
> then No for reformatting.
> What do I do to fix this?

Sounds like C:\_DAT\APPMGR.DAT (and maybe your C: drive) is corrupted.

1) Get a copy (appmgr.dat) from your backups.

2) If you don't have a backup...you may be able to rebuild it (but I'm not
sure how....you should copy that file (and maybe your whole C: drive)
before experimenting.

3) If that fails, you may have to reformat C: (ie, answer "Yes")

- Longden

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My 2x speed/8meg HP200 is having modem problems.  I have an EXP 2meg mode=
l.
 It does not work in the HP although it responds to AT commands in my
laptop with the OK result.  In Datacomm I try the AT command with com2
designated port and I get no response at all.  Pulled out the manual and
could find nothing to help.  =

Any suggestions?
Tom

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On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, thomas e. nemeth wrote:

> My 2x speed/8meg HP200 is having modem problems.  I have an EXP 2meg model.
>  It does not work in the HP although it responds to AT commands in my
> laptop with the OK result.  In Datacomm I try the AT command with com2
> designated port and I get no response at all.  Pulled out the manual and
> could find nothing to help.

Is the line
d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1
loading in your autoexec.bat file?  This is required to use the modem...
--
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Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:53:36 -0600
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Hi.
I ran across a place that sells 200LX AC adapters for $10 plus whatever
shipping costs.  The web site is:
http://www.directmobile.com/200lx_ac.htm
I've never dealt with these people, but it looks like a good price.

Also, someone was wondering if the adapter from the HP calculator infrared
printer would work with the 200LX.  Well, the box for the 200LX adapter
also says that it is for the IR printer as well.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
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Subject:      EXP modem not responding

HP>My 2x speed/8meg HP200 is having modem problems.  I have an EXP 2meg model.
HP> It does not work in the HP although it responds to AT commands in my
HP>laptop with the OK result.  In Datacomm I try the AT command with com2
HP>designated port and I get no response at all.  Pulled out the manual and
HP>could find nothing to help.
HP>Any suggestions?
HP>Tom


   Dear Tom.

   My Exp 8mb Card had a similar problem.
   So a guy at EXP told me to put the "ATZ" string, at datacomm, but
   nothing, then i put the "FACTORY VALUES", without luck, so i sent the
   card to them, on the last days of NOVEMBER !, and i'm still waiting
   for MY card to come back, i'm using a BIG pentium machine, and i hate
   it a lot, and i'm not talking about win95...

   They said they will send a "REPLACEMENT CARD" a week ago.

   If the "ATZ" and the "FACTORY VALUES" fails, try emailing EXP Tech
   Support.

   I'm sure that, if the card is bad, they will ask you, to send them
   the card, do that....but put an eye on YOUR card.

   Exp Tech Support email is : Klee@expcomputer.com

   Hope this helps



   Martin
   Marseb@giga.com.ar

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:40:51 -0500
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2) If you don't have a backup...you may be able to rebuild it (but I'm not
sure how....you should copy that file (and maybe your whole C: drive)
before experimenting.

I believe all you need to do to fix a corrupt appmgr.dat file is to delete
it. Pressing the &More key after that will rebuild a brand spanking new
appmgr.dat file.

Good advice to make a complete back up of important files first.

Alex Arancio
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In a message dated 98-01-14 11:55:58 EST, you write:

<< http://www.directmobile.com/200lx_ac.htm >>

oops. they're all of 'em. Why do I always hear about these great deals when
it's too late!!!!!!

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Folks,

I can through my local distributor get 1 or 2 brand new HP200LX-4MEG
units for US$375. The unit comes with full warranty, documentation, 30
day trial version of Intellisync and a serial cable. Please let me know,
if anyone is interested in purchasing one in the US.

Thanks,

P. Mehta
mehtap@lucent.com

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:21:40 -0700
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At 06:13 AM 1/13/98 -0800, you wrote:
>- "icon view" at the Jonin site displays 30 icons per screen, but is
>slower than ICNVU. However, iconview includes a collection of very nicely
>done icons by Don Puscher.


I'd love to take credit for this :) but the icons were not done by me.
They were created by the author of Icon View.

Don Puscher

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For sale -- AC power supply for HP 95LX.  $10 + shipping cost.

Note, will not work with 100 or 200LX, which require a DC power supply.

Contact at my e-mail address below if interested.

Michael
_____________5:19:33 PM EST, 1/14/98_____________

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On 1998-01-13 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >>The IRDA driver for the palmtop works only for printing, not for
   >>file transfer.  You would need to have a printer with IRDA.
   >Huh? In the Filer Menu, under Communications ... Remote Settings,
   >you can select Infrared. Then, in the Transfile program, you just
   >tell it to use whatever serial port the IRDA represents.
   >Seeing that IR discussion is coming up again, i'm going to ask
   >again: Hey, programmers: How do i access the IR port? ASM/C/Pascal,
   >whatever, just show me Init, Read, and Write functions. Do i just
   >treat it like a regular serial port? If so, what's the address?
To start with your last question: After using serctl /i under dos, you
should be able to access the IR port as were it com1.

In the manual of my hp700lx it says about the IR port:
An infrared port for wireless communications to PC's and IrDA compliant
printers.

The way I read this it should be able to communicate with PC (with or
without IrDA standard). In the autoexec.bat file there are two lines:
d:\bin\lamptsr.com /l /i
d:\bin\comtsr.com /L
These drivers control the IR port. As I understand these are not in the ROM
of the 200LX. Maybe they are on the net. I don't know if these drivers work
on the 200LX. Since I only use the IR port for communicating between the 200
and the 700.

If wanted, I will put these files om my webpage

Bas
Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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SOLD


--- On Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:22:21 -0500  mdstockr <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com> wrote:

>For sale -- AC power supply for HP 95LX.  $10 + shipping cost.
>
>Note, will not work with 100 or 200LX, which require a DC power supply.
>
>Contact at my e-mail address below if interested.
>
>Michael
>_____________5:19:33 PM EST, 1/14/98_____________
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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:20:37 +0000
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is someone try to use this modem/memory
on another dos palmtop or notebook?

I understand the modem is standard,
but you need a driver to access the memory.
So is the drivers only works on the 200LX?

regards
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:51:35 +0000
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Hello Jason (& HPLX Mailers),

Forgive me for being blunt -- do not under any circumstance think of
exchanging your 620LX for a 40Mb PCMCIA flashcard without first
considering alternatives!

On Wednesday, 14 Jan 1998, you said:-

<snip>

> Well, that's about right. it's *Singapore*$1499, approx US$833 at
> the current terrible conversion rate of about 1.8 to 1. Anyway, I
> know I won't get back all the money ... just thought I'd try my
> luck. Highest (reasonable) bid secures. Come to think of it, if any
> body has an unneeded but serviceable PCMCIA 40MB flashcard, I
> wouldn't mind taking that as part exchange. A quick telephone call
> gets me a quote of about $1250 for a 40MB card, so it's in the
> region.


As the contact person for a users' group in Australia and New Zealand
I am currently investigating a group purchase of a reliable but cheap
PCMCIA (ATA) 40Mb flashcard and have found that prices come down as
low as around $234 (US).  So even if your figure of $1250 related to
Singapore dollars, you could be losing out badly.

While on this subject, can anyone please advise of the best place to
purchase Simple Technology flashcards, as it looks as if this will be
the choice for "Down Under" users.

Take care,

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:37:21 -0800
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James P. Grenert wrote:
>
> Hi.
> I ran across a place that sells 200LX AC adapters for $10 plus whatever
> shipping costs.  The web site is:
> http://www.directmobile.com/200lx_ac.htm

I got a generic 12V 500 MA wall charger here in L.A. for something like
$4.50 that works just fine. It doesn't get hot, so I'm sure it's
probably not overloaded, and it does charge the  batteries. The place is
All Electronics, a sort of electronics junk dealer who buys out
companies' stock that is left over when they close down or stop making a
line of equipment. They always have five or ten different versions of
wall chargers there for really cheap.

Their number is 213-380-8000. They also do mail-order.


Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles

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Barry Collins wrote:

...Forgive me for being blunt -- do not under any circumstance think of
...exchanging your 620LX for a 40Mb PCMCIA flashcard without first
...considering alternatives!

Absolutely correct!  The PC Card will make a very poor door stop.  On the
other hand, if someone will trade you a 40meg Card AND a brick ...

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish
          team hp260lx

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:00:02 PST
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if you have not received a chkdsk by 1/21/98, I can email one to you
next week

j barcal

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:23:42 -0500
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John Allen wrote:
>
> > I was at a computer show this weekend, looking at motherboards. Some
> > have an IRDA connector on them, and I was thinking that I could use it
> > to communicate with the 200LX. Has anyone done this, and if so, where
> > did you get the IR transceiver and driver software (if needed (I run
> > Win95 and Linux))? Are there different versions of IRDA connector on the
> > motherboard that I need to worry about? Don't know too much about this
> > subject, and was hoping someone could enlighten me....
>
> There is a lot of information about IRDA on the WWW, but it's hard to put it
> together in a way which makes sense.
>
> Some ideas:
>
> 1. Several firms make transceivers which plug into the IRDA connector on
> PC motherboards. Have a look at http://www.actisys.com which also has some
> general documentation on IRDA.
>
> 2. It is also possible to buy the transceiver component (HP sell the HDSL-1001, see
> http://www2.hp.com/HP-COMP/ir/hsdl1001.html) and presumably one could build
> one's own device to plug into the motherboard. However I suspect that there is a
> significant risk of damage to the motherboard due to the high current flow when the
> LED transmitter is on (there was an article on the SMC site with many fearsome
> warnings: see http://www.smsc.com/main/appnotes/an76.html).

I have not yet checked your reference but there is an important fact to
remember. The IR transmitting device becomes less and less efficient as
it gets hotter. Thus passing more current through it is a bad idea.
However, if you put short pulses of current through the device, it does
not heat up. Thus, the goal becomes making very short,
high current pulses with low average energy content. This will maximize
the light output, minimize the energy consumption and make the whole
system work better. That is probably the principal secret in making
remote transmitters that will work for several years on a single pair of
AA cells.
>
> 3. Microsoft provide IRDA drivers with documentation for Win95/NT, direct links are on the
> Actisys site (see above).

I don't know anything about Win95 except that I can't use it.
>
> 4. IRDA transceivers with appropriate drivers normally appear as COM ports to other
> software (eg file transfer software).

Very logical for a serial device.
>
> What it would be nice to know is: if one installs an Actisys (or similar) IRDA transceiver
> on the PC, and the Microsoft IRDA drivers, and if one sets up the HP200LX in infrared comms
> mode, is any useful communication possible? Somebody must at least have tried this?
>

>From the general tenor of the group, I suspect that people have tried it
and been unable to make it work. What I am trying to do is find out why
it hasn't worked and see if there is some change that can be made to fix
it.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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James P. Grenert wrote:
>
> Hi.
> I ran across a place that sells 200LX AC adapters for $10 plus whatever
> shipping costs.  The web site is:
> http://www.directmobile.com/200lx_ac.htm
> I've never dealt with these people, but it looks like a good price.
>
> Also, someone was wondering if the adapter from the HP calculator infrared
> printer would work with the 200LX.  Well, the box for the 200LX adapter
> also says that it is for the IR printer as well.
>
> Cheers.
> J. P. Grenert
> grenert@mayo.edu
>
I worry a little about this. Remember the the HP200LX AC adapter will
work with
the HP95LX but not usually the other way around. Make sure before you
plug it in
that it is 12V dc and has the outer shell of the connector positive.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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John Allen wrote:
>
> > I was at a computer show this weekend, looking at motherboards. Some
> > have an IRDA connector on them, and I was thinking that I could use it
> > to communicate with the 200LX. Has anyone done this, and if so, where
> > did you get the IR transceiver and driver software (if needed (I run
> > Win95 and Linux))? Are there different versions of IRDA connector on the
> > motherboard that I need to worry about? Don't know too much about this
> > subject, and was hoping someone could enlighten me....
>
After I wrote my first reply, I copied the SMSC file and glanced at it.
Much good information. The main point of which seems to me to be, the IR
port on the HPxxLX machines probably doesn't have the required rise and
fall times to make a port that would work with most IRDA hardware.

However, Mr. David Spoelstra's response seems to be the key to solving
the problem.
He has a Compaq computer with an IRDA port. He then uses a HP's free
software called Transfile Win200 and is able to send and receive data
between the Compaq and the HP.

To generalize a little, you may very well be able to do IR file
transfers with the IR hardware in another computer with this software.
Thanks Mr. Spoelstra. By the way, where did you find this software?

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Thanks for the advice! Is your team looking into even larger sized flashcards?
Say 80MB? Maybe I'm greedy, but "you can never have too much data storage"....

Incidentally, I visited Adelaide on a flying visit in Sep last year (arrived
1.30pm from Sydney, left 7pm, crazy right?) but I thought your city is
beautiful and your weather, absolutely fantastic ... maybe the fact that
Singapore was haze-shrouded had something to do with it! :-D

jasonyap






collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au on 98-01-15 08:16:34 AM
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Subject: Re:WTB HP 620LX?

Hello Jason (& HPLX Mailers),

Forgive me for being blunt -- do not under any circumstance think of
exchanging your 620LX for a 40Mb PCMCIA flashcard without first
considering alternatives!

On Wednesday, 14 Jan 1998, you said:-

<snip>

> Well, that's about right. it's *Singapore*$1499, approx US$833 at
> the current terrible conversion rate of about 1.8 to 1. Anyway, I
> know I won't get back all the money ... just thought I'd try my
> luck. Highest (reasonable) bid secures. Come to think of it, if any
> body has an unneeded but serviceable PCMCIA 40MB flashcard, I
> wouldn't mind taking that as part exchange. A quick telephone call
> gets me a quote of about $1250 for a 40MB card, so it's in the
> region.


As the contact person for a users' group in Australia and New Zealand
I am currently investigating a group purchase of a reliable but cheap
PCMCIA (ATA) 40Mb flashcard and have found that prices come down as
low as around $234 (US).  So even if your figure of $1250 related to
Singapore dollars, you could be losing out badly.

While on this subject, can anyone please advise of the best place to
purchase Simple Technology flashcards, as it looks as if this will be
the choice for "Down Under" users.

Take care,

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX

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At 11:35 AM 1/15/98, anborg wrote:
>To generalize a little, you may very well be able to do IR file
>transfers with the IR hardware in another computer with this software.
>Thanks Mr. Spoelstra. By the way, where did you find this software?

There's a link to it on the SUPER site (thanks Mitch!) www.palmtop.net
-David

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:02:37 -0800
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On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Barry COLLINS wrote:

> While on this subject, can anyone please advise of the best place to
> purchase Simple Technology flashcards, as it looks as if this will be
> the choice for "Down Under" users.

Was this choice based on any experiences or facts related to power draw
and performance that you can share with us? I'm interested in a 40mb card
too.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:22:15 -0800
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Longden C. Loo wrote:

> Was this choice based on any experiences or facts related to power draw
> and performance that you can share with us? I'm interested in a 40mb card
> too.


Allow me to relate an experience with Pretec flash cards.  A few months ago,
I paid $560 (a lot for me) for a 64MB card from Pretec.  Well, the card came,
and I was excited.  But when I put it in, I noticed it was performing
extemely poorly.  A 3.6MB backup of the C: drive would take 5 minutes, 27
seconds.  On another card I had, it would take 2 minutes 19 seconds.  Well,
naturally I was a bit put off.  Why should one card be so much faster than
the other?  I tried everything I could think of: disabling drivers,
re-fdisking and formatting the card, defragmenting, disabling light sleep
mode-- nothing helped.  Then after a few days I noticed that things seemed to
happen faster if I held down a key while the flash card was active.  So I
timed it.  Sure enough, the card speeded up to just as fast as any other card
when I held a key down.  Any key, even CTRL.  I found this a bit odd, and
assumed it must be a bad card.  Pretec neither confirmed nor denied, so I
returned it.  I used the money to buy an older Pretec card from somebody else
(a 30MB card, originally bought in Jan. 1997.)  This card performed
beautifully.  No speed problem, and it was made of a good solid metal, not
the plastic the 64MB card had been made of.  Well, one day the card went bad,
after a couple months of solid performance.  So I returned it to Pretec, and
they replaced it with a new-style 32MB card.  This new card behaves exactly
the same way as the 64MB card did: slow, slow, slow, unless I hold down a
key.

I have come to the conclusion that this must just be normal behavior for the
Pretec cards.  Can anyone think of any reason this might be happening?  It
works pretty much the same speed in a single or double speed palmtop.

Anyway, to tie this into the original post I quoted from: anyone who has a
Simple Tech card and has or has owned a Pretec card in the past: I would
appreciate it if you could tell me how they compare...
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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:04:19 +0000
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Hello again Jason,

I appreciate getting your acknowledgement of my message.

Actually there had been some thought of going up to 80Mb for our
flashcards, but when enquiries were first started the price seemed a
bit steep, though subsequently we found out about less expensive
brands.  Also there is a rumour that at about 80Mb and over this size,
the 100/200LX does not handle the extra memory and this creates
problems.  So, some of us are hoping to use Stacker to increase the
40Mb, though from my limited experience this will not get up to 80Mb.

I am glad you liked your brief visit to Adelaide.  If you ever come
again, let me know in advance and we might improve your welcome!

Best wishes,

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:02:39 +0000
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I had a corrupt appt.adb file too (the appt-manager said, that he could
not open the file). I closed appman, copied the adb-file to a temp
directory and opened appman again. Because he could not find the previous
file, he created a new, empty one. Then I merged the previous file out of
the temp dir into the new one, et voila, my data was back. Don't know,
how a appt-file can get corrupt, but trying to repair the corrupt file
(copy of it, in case of corrupt files i always work only on copies, to
have the chance, to try another ideas of repairing!!!) with garlic did
not succed.

Bye, Axel

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On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Alex Arancio wrote:

> 2) If you don't have a backup...you may be able to rebuild it (but I'm not
> sure how....you should copy that file (and maybe your whole C: drive)
> before experimenting.
>
> I believe all you need to do to fix a corrupt appmgr.dat file is to delete
> it. Pressing the &More key after that will rebuild a brand spanking new
> appmgr.dat file.
>
> Good advice to make a complete back up of important files first.
>
> Alex Arancio
> Trout, Segall & Doyle LLC
>
> Email:  store4u@troutsegall.com (business)
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Subject:      Cards...
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On 1998-01-14 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:22:15 -0800
   >David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
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   >Longden C. Loo wrote:
   >> Was this choice based on any experiences or facts related to
<snip>
   >mode-- nothing helped.  Then after a few days I noticed that things
   >seemed to happen faster if I held down a key while the flash card
   >was active.  So I timed it.  Sure enough, the card speeded up to

Maybe this is to do with the sleep-mode cards enter, keeping a key
down will send codes to stop the card going to sleep.

On the subject of different card performance, I have two 5meg
SanDisk cards (Oh how I wish for 40meg or more!) which perform
great. A friend of mine has an 80meg Ace DoubleFlash card, we were
upset to find out (after they folded) that it was stacked!

He payed for and expected, 80meg. What he got was a 40meg card with
stacker compression that purports to offer 80meg free space, but
can run out at only 45meg if there are a lot of files and/or
executables.

Worse was on the horizon, a month or two ago, there was a funny
rattle from his card and then, nothing...

Sometimes there is contact and one can access files, but most of
the time it is as if the card is not there. We think a memory chip
or component has come adrift inside the card.

Of course, Ace is history, Shier has not replied, (it was suggested
by several people they took a lot of Ace stock and some
responsibility/service/help) and worst of all, the card is actually
manufactured by IBM in Japan. IBM Auckland was NO HELP...

One good nugget was gleaned from this awful episode, I have
stacker, but had not used it as it slows down the LX and uses
memory and the space reported is only a projection and many other
reasons, but while working on my friends compressed card, I was in
XTree Gold, (the most wonderful program ever written for dos!) and
checking the card while not in stack mode.

What I discovered was this, Stacker formats the card and puts a
single hidden file (stackvol) which is the compressed drive when
accessed by the stacker tsr, this volume is a fairly normal
4028 bytes per cluster, 4 sectors per cluster, but the card is
formatted to 512 bytes per cluster.

This means that there is much less waste from slack space, but the
flip side is the extra overhead in dos, the bigger fat (4 times the
number of clusters!) means there is a performance hit in speed. I
am running with this because I often have many small files and to
illustrate, I went from 800k slack space on my 5meg card to 80k
slack. I gained 720k free space by setting up for stacker and then
changing the attributes for and then deleting the stackvol file.

This shows what can be found when you are not looking...

Also, a tip for those of you with the HP connectivity pack, you can
actually use this to run apps that expect the LX video environment
like HV and PE (Both wonderful programs!)

Question time...

I run Windows 2.0 and Word for Windows and Excel on my LX and use
Stefan Peichl's sleepon to allow the keyboard on/off and the 3
minute timeout.

What I want to know is if anybody has a routine/batch
file/macro/tsr or executable to automate the reversing of the lcd
screen. When Windows starts, it ALWAYS reverses the standard look
so you have white on black instead of black on white. I use the
On + / to reverse the reversal, but would like an automaton to do
this. Hey, what's a computer for? IT should be doing it, not me!

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08  - Test Drive

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 07:01:36 +0100
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If you are successful please e-mail me. Im looking for it since quite a while.

Juerg

On Tuesday, January 13, 1998 16:24, STEVENS Jef SMTP:jef.stevens@EUROCONTROL.BE wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
> 2 quick questions:
>
> 1/  is there a tool out there which can synchronize schedule+ and/or MS
> Outlook with the appointment book on the 200LX?
> 2/ is there a way to increase the number of applications in the
> application manager?  More specifically to add applications (and icons!)
> to the application manager?
>
> Thanks for your replies,
>
> Jef
> email: jef.stevens@eurocontrol.be
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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I have just received an email from KODAK telling that the DC-20 and DC-25=

were discontinued on December 31, 1997. They have no plans for a
replacement. Depending on your view: avoid these two OR rush to get one
while you still can. =


Jorgen
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Text of message from davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM, 15 Jan 1998, 02:22 AM
> Allow me to relate an experience with Pretec flash cards.  A few months
> ago, I paid $560 (a lot for me) for a 64MB card from Pretec.  Well, the
> card came, and I was excited.  But when I put it in, I noticed it was
> performing extemely poorly.  A 3.6MB backup of the C: drive would take 5
> minutes, 27 seconds.  On another card I had, it would take 2 minutes 19
> seconds.  Well, naturally I was a bit put off.  Why should one card be
> so much faster than the other?  I tried everything I could think of:
> disabling drivers, re-fdisking and formatting the card, defragmenting,
> disabling light sleep mode-- nothing helped.  Then after a few days I
> noticed that things seemed to happen faster if I held down a key while
> the flash card was active.  So I timed it.  Sure enough, the card
> speeded up to just as fast as any other card when I held a key down.
> Any key, even CTRL.  I found this a bit odd, and assumed it must be a
> bad card.  Pretec neither confirmed nor denied, so I returned it.  I
> used the money to buy an older Pretec card from somebody else (a 30MB
> card, originally bought in Jan. 1997.)  This card performed beautifully.
> No speed problem, and it was made of a good solid metal, not the plastic
> the 64MB card had been made of.  Well, one day the card went bad, after
> a couple months of solid performance.  So I returned it to Pretec, and
> they replaced it with a new-style 32MB card.  This new card behaves
> exactly the same way as the 64MB card did: slow, slow, slow, unless I
> hold down a key.

I also found that the new Pretec cards were very slow and had to return
mine.  I never discovered the trick of holding down a key.  I
subsequently bought a 40 meg Sundisk/Sandisk that was OEMed by MagicRam
and it performs well (and has a lifetime warranty).

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 06:43:07 -0800
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On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Daniel Z. Sands wrote:

> I also found that the new Pretec cards were very slow and had to return
> mine.  I never discovered the trick of holding down a key.  I
> subsequently bought a 40 meg Sundisk/Sandisk that was OEMed by MagicRam
> and it performs well (and has a lifetime warranty).

This is why I posed the original question to Barry Collins...what is the
criteria for determining their selection of the Simple Tech card?

Many of us who have flash cards that have been relatively trouble-free
feel they perform well, but this is a subjective thing. How do we know
that a card is 1) not drawing alot of power relative to another card 2) is
faster or slower than someone else's card.

Unless someone does alot of legwork to contact each vendor and get
technical specs (power draw, access speeds) I don't see how our selection
could ever be anything other than by word of mouth (ie experience)...then
we end up choosing a card based on its proven reliability and
compatibility since we lack a common benchmark for performance and
power consumption....but we may end up with a card that performs poorly
compared to the one we're replacing.

- Longden

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On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, David Lawrence wrote:

> I run Windows 2.0 and Word for Windows and Excel on my LX and use
> Stefan Peichl's sleepon to allow the keyboard on/off and the 3
> minute timeout.
>
> What I want to know is if anybody has a routine/batch
> file/macro/tsr or executable to automate the reversing of the lcd
> screen. When Windows starts, it ALWAYS reverses the standard look
> so you have white on black instead of black on white. I use the
> On + / to reverse the reversal, but would like an automaton to do

If you start Windows from within HDM (the AppMgr-like menu system..and
using MaxDos to maximize your ram), the startup options for an icon
include a setting for inverting the LCD.

Aside from that, I'm sure someone out there can provide a small executable
to do this in a batch file. Sorry, I'm not one of them.

> this. Hey, what's a computer for? IT should be doing it, not me!

What a novel concept <g>.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:01:44 +0100
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I'm having problems getting Qfax (1.10) - the fax utility for HP palmtops -
to work. Everything goes well, converting my document to fax format, even
connecting to the fax at distance (fax machine number is shown, connected
at 9600 baud) but then nothing happens. I get an error message that goes by
so quickly I can't read it and the modem disconnects. I have tried many
times
with different fax numbers. What could be the problem?

Advice welcome

Regards

Frank

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:13:38 +0100
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> I run Windows 2.0 and Word for Windows and Excel on my LX and use
> Stefan Peichl's sleepon to allow the keyboard on/off and the 3
> minute timeout.

I was wondering where one can find Windows 2.0 and how you can get these
three applications to work on a hp200lx?

Can someone tell me?

Regards

Frank

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:33:31 EST
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Comments: To: jorgen@palmtop.net

Hello everyone.  If you have been following this list you are aware I
worte a utility that takes Comma Separated Variable files from Outlook
and incorporates them into the HP ADB format. The problem is that it only
works on the HP-100. I think I have identified the record type that is
required on the HP-200 as the type 14, Appt book Info. The problem I have
is I don't know the format for this record type. It is one of the
specialized appointment record types, and thus is not discussed in the
100gdb information that is available. Jorgen Wallgren gave me some basic
information that was very helpful, but it did not include the format for
this record. If anyone out there can help me, I would appreciate it.

If anyone has tried the program, please send me some feedback on what it
needs to be more useful.  The program is available as APPTMAKR.ZIP on the
S.U.P.E.R. site.

Thanks.
Brian McIlvaine

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 07:57:05 -0800
Reply-To:     "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@world.northgrum.com>
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From:         "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
Subject:      Kodak DC-20 image conversion..a solution!
Comments: cc: Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>,
          Neil Tungate <neil@SKIPPER.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Kodak DC-20 users! We have an important development. (non DC-20 users can
ignore the rest).

The issue of late has been how to manipulate the dc-20's raw image data
directly on the LX, bypassing the desktop...to give us the ability to
shoot pictures on the road, convert them  to a standard format and email
the picture(s) to others.

The "cmttoppm.c" program listed at a website was a possible solution as it
was the source for a raw image convertor to "ppm" (an image format used in
Unix).  Neil tungate of UK has been working on a port to DOS.

I emailed the author of the program, Yoshida Hideki and he responded with
a web address for what we're after (cmttoppm program converts raw images
to .bmp). The correspondence is shown below.

I've already downloaded the file, uncompressed and tested 2 of them on the
LX. They're a bit slow (took about 2 minutes to make a BW bmp file and
about 10 min to make a color one)....but hey, it's a start.

Neil, the archive includes source...so you can let me know when you make
improvements, right?

Remember also that the cjpeg program (from the jpeg6a.zip archive at
Simtel) will convert the bmp to jpg, thus saving space...and that runs on
the LX also.

Try and enjoy.  Ah, the Internet! Ya gotta love it!

- Longden

 ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:30:50 +0900 (JST)
From: YOSHIDA Hideki <hideki@yk.rim.or.jp>
To: lloo@world.northgrum.com
Subject: Re: cmttoppm program runs on DOS?

Hello,

 > Has your cmttoppm.c program ever been compiled for MS-DOS, to run on a
 > 80186 processor? (such as on the palmtop). I'm not familiar enough with C
 > to make changes and don't have a good compiler anyway.

http://www.oohito.com/data/IMGCONV1.LZH can convert IMG/CMT files to
BMP format.  I have never tried it, but it is based on my cmttoppm.c
and should do what you want.  Its document is in Japanese, so you may
have to read main() routine of the C source to know how to use it.

You need `lha' archiver in order to extract files in *.LZH archive
files.
---
                                                YOSHIDA Hideki
                                                Minami-ku, Yokohama 232
                                                Japan
                                                hideki@yk.rim.or.jp

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:10:13 -0500
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              "thomas e. nemeth" <103153.2417@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Thanks to all who responded David, Cliff, Martin, Alex and Longden to my
mult queries.  modem is still down although if i press it in very hard th=
en
i'm able to use the install pgm on theA drive per the advice of klee at e=
xp
support.  but install does not affect the modem - that is it still doesn'=
t
work. ep fits in rather loosely, previous exp's fit in more snugly than
this one.   funny thing is my sundisk pccard which fits snugly can always=

be read 1st time off of A drive.  =

it seems to me that it is just not making a solid connection.
thanks again to the list bubbas for their help.  if klee comes up with
something useful, i'll pass it on.
tom in syria

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:34:14 -0300
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Subject:      Be careful when using Big Flash Cards

Dear people,


I've just bought a new 40mb Simple Technologies card a few months ago.
I've paid $900, here in argentina, all is expensive.    :(

The problem is, that the card *won't* work under 2.4V, and the palmtop
will display "drive not ready", i thought it was the card, so i returned
it, and the  dealer here, gave another one, but, the problem is also on
this card, so i believe that the card itself, won't work under 2.40, or
2.50

It's not a big problem, cause i'm re-charging batteries twice a week,
but, if you change between flash and modems, well....be careful, you may
find a not friendly message like "drive not ready", when trying to
access, some important data.

My Exp 8mb card, was able to work even under 2.4, or below.

BTW, I'm using a pair of nimh 1400 amp.



Martin
Marseb@giga.com.ar

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:05:30 -0600
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On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, F. Ubachs wrote:

> I'm having problems getting Qfax (1.10) - the fax utility for HP palmtops -
> to work. Everything goes well, converting my document to fax format, even
> connecting to the fax at distance (fax machine number is shown, connected
> at 9600 baud) but then nothing happens. I get an error message that goes by
> so quickly I can't read it and the modem disconnects. I have tried many
> times with different fax numbers. What could be the problem?
>


You have tried calling different numbers, but have you tried calling
*from* different numbers?  Maybe there is a problem with your phone
line.  Is it possible that the wait time is set too low in your
qfax.cfg file?  Other than those two thoughts, I don't know.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:16:06 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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This was posted in comp.sys.palmtops.

May be of interest to the power-starved.

- Longden

Date: 15 Jan 1998 14:39:41 GMT
From: Chris De Herrera <PDCChrisD@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.periphs.dcameras, alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp,
Subject: Re: FS: Panasonic 1100mA NiCD AA recharables w/charger

Hi,
At CES Panasonic announced a new variety of Nimh which have 1500ma of
power.  Look for those sometime in the future as well.

Chris De Herrera
http://members.aol.com/pdcchrisd/

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:38:13 -0600
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              "Steindorf, Eric" <estein@KCC.COM>
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RE: Schedules
IntelliSync from Puma Technologies should do the trick for synchronizing
schedules. (about $70 I think, you may have to direct order).

http://www.pumatech.com

RE: Adding applications
Unless I misunderstand your question,
Load the desired program onto the HPLX,
Hit the More key
Hit the F2 key (add)
Fill out the table to add a new program. (you can highlight an exisiting
program such as Lair of Squid and F3 it to see how it is done).
You can also use D:\bin\icn200lx.exe to create\modify icons.

-Eric
> ----------
> From:         STEVENS JefSMTP:jef.stevens@EUROCONTROL.BE
> Sent:         Tuesday, January 13, 1998 9:23 AM
> Subject:      schedule+ and apps in appmgr
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> 2 quick questions:
>
> 1/  is there a tool out there which can synchronize schedule+ and/or
> MS
> Outlook with the appointment book on the 200LX?
> 2/ is there a way to increase the number of applications in the
> application manager?  More specifically to add applications (and
> icons!)
> to the application manager?
>
> Thanks for your replies,
>
> Jef
> email: jef.stevens@eurocontrol.be
>

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I am getting ready to install Jam on my hp.  I have planned on compressing both
my c: drive and my a: drive.  I am just wondering from those of you more
experienced on this group, are there any tips or watch-outs I should be aware
of before I continue?

TIA

Jonathan "Systech" Haase

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:39:21 -1
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On 1998-01-14 lloo@world.northgrum.com said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >Bas,
   >I don't think the LX supports (easy) synchronization at the record
   >level. There probably aren't that many people who need to
   >synchronize 2 LX's databases.
I have (as you might know) a 200lx and a 700lx. The 700lx has more
communication-possibilities, but is a little too big for your pocket. Like
to use both.

   >In regards to your current method, why not just copy data from
   >machine 2 to machine 1, then do the merge on machine 1, then copy
   >the merged data files to machine 2. That would cut out an extra
   >merge.
I'll try it. Thanks
   >- Longden
Bas

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Date:         Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:50:25 -0100
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Comments: cc: ubachs@XS4ALL.NL

On 1998-01-15 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >> I run Windows 2.0 and Word for Windows and Excel on my LX and use
   >> Stefan Peichl's sleepon to allow the keyboard on/off and the 3
   >> minute timeout.
   >I was wondering where one can find Windows 2.0 and how you can get
   >these three applications to work on a hp200lx?
   >Can someone tell me?
   >Regards
   >Frank

Hi all, I wish you luck in getting Windows 2.0! I grabbed my copy
from a computer swap-meet. The Word for windows is version 1.1
and although it says on the box "for 286 or better processor" it
installs and runs in the LX 186 and even my antique 8088!

Excel version 2.0 or 2.1 runs well on the LX, I have both. The
2.1 I bought from a store! It had been in the window since
1988!!! I don't know what it cost when newly introduced but I got
it for $50.00 NZ, sorry, that was the last one!

You will find that Excel 2.0/2.1 allow you to do everything with
the keyboard, including formatting graphs/charts and even
coloring them, although the LX will not display your selected
colors!

Word will do everything you install, from mail-merge to full-on
desktop productions, the spell check and thesaurus are worth the
install alone!

Many people run Windows 3.0 in the LX because it is easier to
find than 2.0 and I have tried both extensively. 2.0 has some
significant advantages. The best being the taught code, it can
run in less than 1/2 the disk space. 3.0 is coded to look for and
utilise the routines for later processors than the LX has and so
many files are redundant, but the essential ones are all bigger
than 2.0

The version of Paint included in 2.0 is the best in that it runs
fully with only the keyboard, allowing one to paint/draw on the
LX better than in the paint included with 3.0 in which some
functions can only be executed by mouse.

The calculator, too, is better suited to keyboard use in version
2.0 and bringing up the Help | About screen gives key
definitions.

Tips for making Windows run better: set aside some space on the
C: drive and edit the win.ini thusly,

pif swapdisk=c:
swapsize=500 (or whatever you can afford!)

I also put in the following,

Microsoft Word
Conversion=no

This means I can open text/ascii/c/h/inc/pov files in Word and
not have them converted, ie: they are saved in native format
after editing.

If you have enough disk space, you can install all the tutorial
and help files for Word & Excel, but be prepared for some long
wait-states on running these tutorials!

Yes, it IS possible to run Word and Excel at the same time, just
remember to minimize the one in the background and set the MS-Dos
Executive (or Program Manager) to minimize on run, as this saves
memory. I have had Word & Excel running with three iterations of
cardfile and two notepads and the clock and calculator and the
appointment manager/calendar all iconized and ready to pop up at
the next Alt + Esc | Alt + F9

Most necessary for happy Windowing is Stefan Peichl's sleepon,
which is on www.palmtop.net/super.html

This allows the use of the On/Off switch, as Windows grabs the
keyboard, disabling it! Without sleepon, you have to close all
apps and exit Windows to turn the machine off and the three
minute timeout, doesn't!

I hope you find these programs, because I personally prefer using
these taught little numbers on my palmtop rather than the
over-blown, bloated excuses foisted in 95/97/98...


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:34:50 -0800
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At 09:50 AM 1/16/98 -0100, you wrote:

>Many people run Windows 3.0 in the LX because it is easier to
>find than 2.0 and I have tried both extensively. 2.0 has some
>significant advantages. The best being the taught code, it can
>run in less than 1/2 the disk space. 3.0 is coded to look for and
>utilise the routines for later processors than the LX has and so
>many files are redundant, but the essential ones are all bigger
>than 2.0

Hi David, long time no read.

I like those words, "significant advantages".

I have Windows 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0, but only have ran 3.0 on my 100LX.

Q: Did you use the same installation files for both 2.0 and 3.0?

If you can send me a list of the needed files to install 2.0. I'd like to
compare it with the needed files for 3.0.

Thanks,

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:40:29 -0600
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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Let me know if you need Windows 2.0, I have a copy I also have a copy of
3.0 and 1.0.


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd

    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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Date:         Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:11:01 -0600
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Here is my way...

1.) From a DOS prompt; ATTRIB /S>C:\_DAT\FILELIST.DOC
2.) Open Memo, load C:\_DAT\FILELIST>DOC
3.) Press the "More" key, and then "F2" to Add program
4.) Using the following Macro...
    {Tab}{Memo}{Right}{Right}{Right}{Right}{Right}{Right}{Right}{Right}{
Right}{Right}{Right}{Right}{Right}{Shift+End}{Copy}{Home}{Down}{More}{Pa
ste}{Tab}{Tab}{Tab}
    Assigned to a free Macro Key, step through the -large- list of files
looking for an Icon to use.

I know this could be better, but I can't find a way to "sort" the
results of piping ATTRIB to a file, without using some additional
program.. I add a new application so seldom that this method does not
seem to bother me.  An "up" side to this is that it shows you _all_ the
icons, even those associated with .GDB and even ones not associated with
any .EXE, .COM, or .BAT. :)

Phil

>

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:27:21 -0600
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Could this be Windows 286?  If so I don't think Excel will run there.  I
have been wrong in the past, so...

Phil

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>
>> I run Windows 2.0 and Word for Windows and Excel on my LX and use
>> Stefan Peichl's sleepon to allow the keyboard on/off and the 3
>> minute timeout.
>
>I was wondering where one can find Windows 2.0 and how you can get these
>three applications to work on a hp200lx?
>
>Can someone tell me?
>
>Regards
>
>Frank
>

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I have a bad file that just apeared on the c drive.  It has unusual
characters in its name with no extension.  It orginally said it was 28 megs
big, but it went to zero after running chkdsk/f.

I cannot rename it or delete it.  I tried deleting the directory it was in
but it says access denied.  I tried delete *.* but it says invalid
directory.  I tried renaming but it will not rename.  I tried using ? to
replace the 'bad' characters and delete or rename it but it says invalid
directory.  Attrib won't work either.

Any suggestions?

-Tim

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:53:58 -0800
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At 03:28 PM 1/15/98 -0800, you wrote:

>I cannot rename it or delete it.  I tried deleting the directory it was in
>but it says access denied.  I tried delete *.* but it says invalid
>directory.  I tried renaming but it will not rename.  I tried using ? to
>replace the 'bad' characters and delete or rename it but it says invalid
>directory.  Attrib won't work either.
>
>Any suggestions?

Boy! I use to get those type of file all the time after installing a
program and later deleting and then doing an un delete. The only work
around that worked for me was to backup
the drive and re-format it.

Hope this helps,

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Just got this from "WindowsCE-Talk" <WindowsCE-Talk@WindowsCE.Com>
(Snip)
IBM Pocket Computer and its availability.
>
>Why WinCE in black and white when you can Win95 in cOlOr?  (in the ad)
>
>Base Unit Cost : $749.00
>which includes
>6.25 x 4.5 x 1.25 1.3 lb unit
>486/33MhZ processor
>4.7" color display 640x480 256 colors
>8 meg RAM upgradable to 40
>4 meg internal flash drive
>Sound blaster compatible sound/microhpone
>Eraser style pointing device with 2 mouse buttons
>Front LCD display, clock and battery level
>LI-Ion battery
>PCMCIA Type 3, yes III and compact flash slot (use the type 3 slot for
hdrives)
>speakerphone
>touch pad
>
>Wow.  All you need is a type 3 hard drive and you are set!
>They sell the hds at discount price if you get the unit with it
>These accessories are listed for the unit with and then without purchase
>of the unit:
>
>260 meg pcmcia 3 hd - 200/299
>340 """" - 300/349
>10x external cd rom  349
>digital camera type 2 = 129
>type 2 from 3 adapter - 59
>They also have touch sensative screens coming soon
>
>I didn't list stuff like cases.
>
>And 16 MB RAM upgrade is 300.
>
>TO REACH THE COMPANY:
>
>1-800-528-9330
>http://www.pocketcomp.com
>
>Hope this helps!
>
>Mark
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On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Tim S. wrote:

> I have a bad file that just apeared on the c drive.  It has unusual
> characters in its name with no extension.  It orginally said it was 28 megs
> big, but it went to zero after running chkdsk/f.
>
> I cannot rename it or delete it.  I tried deleting the directory it was in
> but it says access denied.  I tried delete *.* but it says invalid
> directory.  I tried renaming but it will not rename.  I tried using ? to
> replace the 'bad' characters and delete or rename it but it says invalid
> directory.  Attrib won't work either.
>
> Any suggestions?

I get those sometimes when I connect to my Win95 desktop. Files can't be
deleted or the various commands say the file doesn't exist.

Get a copy of DELTREE.EXE from DOS (I think it's a DOS 6.x command, but I
may be wrong). My copy is 11,111 bytes long.

The command allows you to delete an entire directory...contents and all.
It's what I use on undeletable files in a subdirectory. Just type

        deltree /y c:\goner

and the "goner" subdirectory is ....well gone.

- Longden

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In a message dated 98-01-15 09:47:22 EST, Longden write:

<<
 Unless someone does alot of legwork to contact each vendor and get
 technical specs (power draw, access speeds) I don't see how our selection
 could ever be anything other than by word of mouth (ie experience)...then
 we end up choosing a card based on its proven reliability and
 compatibility since we lack a common benchmark for performance and
 power consumption.... >>

Is there a reasonable benchmarking program that everyone could run against
their flash cards to determine the relative performance?  If even a small
percentage of the people on this list would provide read-time stats, we would
have quite a meaningful data base.  Probably enough to normalize for Stacker,
clock speed, and the like.

No great sophistication seems necessary.  A batch file which would write then
erase the default phone.adb (available to everyone) 100 or so times would
probably do it.  This doesn't give the power usage, but the speed is of major
concern to most of us.

Any interest?

lynn m. cavendish

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On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 07:57:05 -0800, Longden C. Loo wrote:

>Kodak DC-20 users! We have an important development. (non DC-20 users =
can
>ignore the rest).

Good bit of sleuthing there Longden.  I'm looking into this now.

--=20
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> >6.25 x 4.5 x 1.25 1.3 lb unit
        around twice the weight of the hp200lx

> >LI-Ion battery
        and the battery life won't be 20-40 hours!

Is this the PC110?

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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:06:24 -0800
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On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Cavendishl wrote:

> Is there a reasonable benchmarking program that everyone could run against
> their flash cards to determine the relative performance?  If even a small
> percentage of the people on this list would provide read-time stats, we would
> have quite a meaningful data base.  Probably enough to normalize for Stacker,
> clock speed, and the like.
>
> No great sophistication seems necessary.  A batch file which would write then
> erase the default phone.adb (available to everyone) 100 or so times would
> probably do it.  This doesn't give the power usage, but the speed is of major
> concern to most of us.
>
> Any interest?

I wrote such a batch file awhile ago. Your suggestion of a standard file
available to everyone would be an improvement, as was Brendan's use of
the echo to generate a carriage-return.

Here's my suggestion...this batch file copies a 100k help file from the d:
drive to the local drive, then copies it 10 times, basically resulting in
a read/write of 1mb.

You have to run it from DOS and switch to the drive you want to test
before running:

@echo off
copy d:\_sys\c123us.hlp test.dat
echo.|time
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
echo.|time
del test.dat
del test2.dat


The above test runs in about 3.46 secs on my speed-doubled 200LX's C:
drive and about 11.87 secs on my Kingston 20mb flash card.

Total bytes copied is 1,023,810. Well...unsophisticated you asked for....


- Longden

PS - I'm still mostly interested in the power comsumption tho. I don't
want to have a fast disk but be left with laptop battery performance.

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You can use DOS debug or Norton Disk Editor or other such utilities to fix
problems with the disk directory.

The higher level utilities are MUCH nicer.  Using debug, you can read in a
sector, patch it and write it back.  It is VERY easy to destroy your disk.

There are instructions in old DOS articles, or you can email me for details.
The old versions of Norton will run on the palmtop and they work fine for
this kind of thing.

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On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Tim S. wrote:

> I have a bad file that just apeared on the c drive.  It has unusual
> characters in its name with no extension.  It orginally said it was 28 megs
> big, but it went to zero after running chkdsk/f.
>
> I cannot rename it or delete it.  I tried deleting the directory it was in
> but it says access denied.  I tried delete *.* but it says invalid
> directory.  I tried renaming but it will not rename.  I tried using ? to
> replace the 'bad' characters and delete or rename it but it says invalid
> directory.  Attrib won't work either.

Have you tried deleting it from the built-in file-manager, "Filer"?
It is my expirence that file managers generally have better luck deleting
wierd named files. Something to do with command-line parsing, I guess.

Regards,

Laust

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->I have a bad file that just apeared on the c drive.  It has unusual
->characters in its name with no extension.  It orginally said it was 28
->megs big, but it went to zero after running chkdsk/f.
->I cannot rename it or delete it.  I tried deleting the directory it was
->in but it says access denied.  I tried delete *.* but it says invalid
->directory.  I tried renaming but it will not rename.  I tried using ?
->to replace the 'bad' characters and delete or rename it but it says
->invalid directory.  Attrib won't work either.
->Any suggestions?

I've been in a similar situation and found that trusty old Norton
Commander will highlight it and delete it without a wimper.

Jeff


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In a message dated 98-01-15 19:41:30 EST, bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU writes:

<<  >6.25 x 4.5 x 1.25 1.3 lb unit
         around twice the weight of the hp200lx

 > >LI-Ion battery
         and the battery life won't be 20-40 hours!

 Is this the PC110?
  >>

Yes this is the PC110. It is  very capable machine, BTW.

Dennis

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On 1998-01-15 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >Could this be Windows 286?  If so I don't think Excel will run
   >there.  I have been wrong in the past, so...
   >Phil
   >>----------
   >>Sent:  Thursday, January 15, 1998 9:13 AM
   >>> I run Windows 2.0 and Word for Windows and Excel on my LX and use

No, this is not Windows 286, but Windows 2.0 for 8086's and up.
Re my comment earlier on using stacker to format a card to 512
clusters, has anybody tried this with a "Big" card? Mine are just
5meg, so 5,148,160 bytes and 10,055 clusters/sectors at 512

Obviously, a bigger card is going to call for a bigger number of
sectors and I don't know how the fat is going to react.

Any comments?


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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I previously had the same problem, and ended up re-formating the c drive.
good luck

Gary

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Sorry, I did not see all thread.
Using Excell and Word is good, but they require Windows 2 or 3.0.
In this case how much memory should a xl have to run all of them?
Second, it would be nice if they can be controlled from the Newton
keyboard. My experience with this keyboard is good, except for using
Quick Basic 4.5, which is impossible.

Regards,
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David Lawrence wrote:
>
> On 1998-01-15 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
>    >> I run Windows 2.0 and Word for Windows and Excel on my LX and use
>    >> Stefan Peichl's sleepon to allow the keyboard on/off and the 3
>    >> minute timeout.
>    >I was wondering where one can find Windows 2.0 and how you can get
>    >these three applications to work on a hp200lx?
>    >Can someone tell me?
>    >Regards
>    >Frank
>
> Hi all, I wish you luck in getting Windows 2.0! I grabbed my copy
> from a computer swap-meet. The Word for windows is version 1.1
> and although it says on the box "for 286 or better processor" it
> installs and runs in the LX 186 and even my antique 8088!
>
> Excel version 2.0 or 2.1 runs well on the LX, I have both. The
> 2.1 I bought from a store! It had been in the window since
> 1988!!! I don't know what it cost when newly introduced but I got
> it for $50.00 NZ, sorry, that was the last one!
>
> You will find that Excel 2.0/2.1 allow you to do everything with
> the keyboard, including formatting graphs/charts and even
> coloring them, although the LX will not display your selected
> colors!
>
> Word will do everything you install, from mail-merge to full-on
> desktop productions, the spell check and thesaurus are worth the
> install alone!
>
> Many people run Windows 3.0 in the LX because it is easier to
> find than 2.0 and I have tried both extensively. 2.0 has some
> significant advantages. The best being the taught code, it can
> run in less than 1/2 the disk space. 3.0 is coded to look for and
> utilise the routines for later processors than the LX has and so
> many files are redundant, but the essential ones are all bigger
> than 2.0
>
> The version of Paint included in 2.0 is the best in that it runs
> fully with only the keyboard, allowing one to paint/draw on the
> LX better than in the paint included with 3.0 in which some
> functions can only be executed by mouse.
>
> The calculator, too, is better suited to keyboard use in version
> 2.0 and bringing up the Help | About screen gives key
> definitions.
>
> Tips for making Windows run better: set aside some space on the
> C: drive and edit the win.ini thusly,
>
> pif swapdisk=c:
> swapsize=500 (or whatever you can afford!)
>
> I also put in the following,
>
> Microsoft Word
> Conversion=no
>
> This means I can open text/ascii/c/h/inc/pov files in Word and
> not have them converted, ie: they are saved in native format
> after editing.
>
> If you have enough disk space, you can install all the tutorial
> and help files for Word & Excel, but be prepared for some long
> wait-states on running these tutorials!
>
> Yes, it IS possible to run Word and Excel at the same time, just
> remember to minimize the one in the background and set the MS-Dos
> Executive (or Program Manager) to minimize on run, as this saves
> memory. I have had Word & Excel running with three iterations of
> cardfile and two notepads and the clock and calculator and the
> appointment manager/calendar all iconized and ready to pop up at
> the next Alt + Esc | Alt + F9
>
> Most necessary for happy Windowing is Stefan Peichl's sleepon,
> which is on www.palmtop.net/super.html
>
> This allows the use of the On/Off switch, as Windows grabs the
> keyboard, disabling it! Without sleepon, you have to close all
> apps and exit Windows to turn the machine off and the three
> minute timeout, doesn't!
>
> I hope you find these programs, because I personally prefer using
> these taught little numbers on my palmtop rather than the
> over-blown, bloated excuses foisted in 95/97/98...
>
> David Lawrence
> katana@clear.net.nz
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
If you are in So. CA, I have windows 2.0 for sale.  $20.

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Date:         Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:22:38 -0100
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On 1998-01-15 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:10:14 -0500
   >Consuel Ionica <ionica@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU>
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   >Sorry, I did not see all thread.
   >Using Excell and Word is good, but they require Windows 2 or 3.0.
   >In this case how much memory should a xl have to run all of them?
   >Second, it would be nice if they can be controlled from the Newton
   >keyboard. My experience with this keyboard is good, except for using
   >Quick Basic 4.5, which is impossible.
   >Regards,
   >Consuel Ionica
   >ionica@acsu.buffalo.edu

Hi Consuel, if you want to run Windows 2.0, Word 1.1 and Excel 2.0
on the HP LX palmtop, you need at least 3.7meg free on your card.

It is best to have some free on the C: drive too, for room so
Windows can create swap/temp files as it runs.

I don't think the keyboard will run as standard with windows, I use
RemKey occasionally, to use my PC keyboard to input to the LX, and
that works fine in most of the apps I use with the exception of
Windows!

Windows takes control of the keyboard, hence the need to run Stefan
Peichl's sleepon, to regain it. However, RemKey and Windows don't
talk with or without sleepon...

On the subject of keyboards, I would love to have a std 102 key PC
keyboard plugging into my LX. I use RemKey, but that needs a great
big PC sitting there humming away, with it's drive & fans snorting
as I type into my silent LX.

I want to do away with the PC in the middle and connect directly to
the LX.

Is this possible?

I prefer the full-sized keyboard to the Newton, because of the
separate page up/down and arrow keys and the separate numeric
keypad. I had thought, if somebody could get it running, one could
have an adapter for the LX plug to a std din or ps/2 keyboard socket
and one could use any PC keyboard that was free!

Idea #2, maybe an aluminum plate that could hold the LX in place
above the keyboard...


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:58:39 +1030
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I am putting together a collection of freeware software packages for
the HP200LX palmtop that provide PPP connectivity from within the
System Manager.  I have called the collection "LXPPP".

The first goal of LXPPP is that it should be possible to connect to
your ISP via PPP and transfer email between your POP mailbox and your
HP200LX without having to exit from the System Manager.

The second goal of LXPPP is that you should be able to do this without
paying anyone any money for the software.

The third goal of LXPPP is that you should be able to modify and
recompile the software on the HP200LX (assuming you've got Borland C++
2.0 and a large enough flash card).

The current functionality allows you to connect to your ISP via a PPP
packet driver, upload outgoing news and mail from your Palmtop News
Reader (PNR) reply directory and download incoming mail to your PNR
spool directory.  I hope to include a complete set of utilities for
all those things you're used to doing under Unix (like ping, ftp,
telnet, etc.) - hopefully I can get the source code to these.

There is not much documentation as yet, but I have included the source
code.  For those of you who are very brave, this package will allow
you to retrieve your POP mail from a DOS box inside System Manager
using less than 150k of memory, and then read it using pnrti and pnr.

See my web site for details.  Remember, this is only for the brave
amongst you - there is not much documentation, you will need to know
how to install a PPP packet driver and how to configure a WATTCP.CFG
file, and I will not be answering questions until the beta release.
If you have never used PPP on your palmtop before, then you may find
this very difficult to install and use (on the other hand, you might
get it to work first time and be completely satisfied).

Don't expect to be able to recompile from the source code just yet.
You need a few other packages to link against (I have links to them on
my web site, but there are some modifications required which I have to
make into patches).

If you get LXPPP to work, please send me email.  If you get it to
work, and find a bug, definately send me email (preferably with a
patch to the source code to fix it).  If you can't get it to work,
then you'll just have to wait for the beta release, which will include
instructions for installing the PPP packet driver and configuring the
WATTCP.CFG file.

When LXPPP is stable, I will submit it to the S.U.P.E.R. site (where
it will join my ExmBatch package, which also includes source code).

-- Rod Whitby (rwhitby@geocities.com)
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Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:02:01 -0800
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              Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
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I will be putting my utilities on my website: http://www.ilovemusic.com. and
anyone can download them from there.

In the meantime, if anyone wants unique.exe let me know and I will
email it to you.

unique.exe now has a command line switch so you can say:

    unique oldname.xls  /r

and it will rename it rather than just copy it to a unique name.

**** => P.S.  How do you upload to super?


At 08:35 PM 1/9/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>Would you be willing to share it with others?  Or, upload it to
>>Super?
>
>Uploading it usually mean documenting it, maintaining it and answering a
>lot of email about it.
>
>I would think that Philip will be doing some redhot programming over-night
>and implement these and other things. (HINT! PHILIP). If not, I may as I
>think programmers will find it useful.
>
>Quite another thing is that I real soon now (that is at least what I keep
>saying) will open a website of tiny utilities for the LX and articles about
>assembler programming + probably C + AWK and other "halfdead" languages.
>
>Jorgen
>
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Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
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Cavendishl wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-01-15 09:47:22 EST, Longden write:
>
> <<
>  Unless someone does alot of legwork to contact each vendor and get
>  technical specs (power draw, access speeds) I don't see how our selection
>  could ever be anything other than by word of mouth (ie experience)...then
>  we end up choosing a card based on its proven reliability and
>  compatibility since we lack a common benchmark for performance and
>  power consumption.... >>
>
> Is there a reasonable benchmarking program that everyone could run against
> their flash cards to determine the relative performance?  If even a small
> percentage of the people on this list would provide read-time stats, we would
> have quite a meaningful data base.  Probably enough to normalize for Stacker,
> clock speed, and the like.
>
> No great sophistication seems necessary.  A batch file which would write then
> erase the default phone.adb (available to everyone) 100 or so times would
> probably do it.  This doesn't give the power usage, but the speed is of major
> concern to most of us.
>
> Any interest?
>
> lynn m. cavendish
>
I am mildly interested. I think that I am more interested in knowing
what is inside the card. Some of the flash ram cards IIRC have limited
lives due to the memory chips used. If we knew what parts were used, we
could go to the makers data sheets and learn what they claim for the
number of erase/write cycles. Does this interest anyone?

Best regards

Art Borg

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Date:         Fri, 16 Jan 1998 20:23:49 -0100
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From:         David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject:      LX apps on the PC...

Did you know...

If you have the connectivity pack, you can run apps designed for the
LX by adding them with F2

So far, I have Pal Edit, HV and Palmtop News Reader running fine, I
will report back as I discover what will work.
David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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              "F. Ubachs" <ubachs@XS4ALL.NL>
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>I have a bad file that just apeared on the c drive.  It has unusual
>characters in its name with no extension.  It orginally said it was 28 megs
>big, but it went to zero after running chkdsk/f.
>
>I cannot rename it or delete it.  I tried deleting the directory it was in
>but it says access denied.  I tried delete *.* but it says invalid
>directory.  I tried renaming but it will not rename.  I tried using ? to
>replace the 'bad' characters and delete or rename it but it says invalid
>directory.  Attrib won't work either.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
Try using chmod.exe. I have had considerable success with this in the past.


Regards

Frank

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Date:         Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:09:24 +0000
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Hi Philip,
I read about Your "unique.exe" and I am interested in it. Could not find
it on Your homepage yet, so could You mail it to me?
Thanks, Axel

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Date:         Fri, 16 Jan 1998 04:18:26 -0500
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              Consuel Ionica <ionica@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU>
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I am not aware of any normal keyboard to be adapted through a PS2 to the
LX. I have read however an article in Mobilis (forgot the www address)
about a Korean IRDA keyboard as a second option beyond the Newton.
Probably it is unavailable on the US market.

On the other hand it will be useful if information will be collected
through a survey to see which applications can be used from the newton
keboard and which not. This may eventually help the author (my all
respect for people like him) of the driver to improve it, and people
plan if they need or not the keyboard or a certain program.

Best regards,
Consuel Ionica
ionica@acsu.buffalo.edu

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Date:         Fri, 16 Jan 1998 06:54:31 EST
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Jorgen
After i posted my request for more info yesterday, I had a bothersome
thought in the back of my head, like I had missed something in the data
you gave me. The info on the record type is there! Now all I have to do
is se if I can get it to work. Thanks again for the information.

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Date:         Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:19:02 -0600
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On Thu, Jan 15, 1998 at 05:06:24PM -0800, Longden C. Loo wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Cavendishl wrote:
> I wrote such a batch file awhile ago. Your suggestion of a standard file
> available to everyone would be an improvement, as was Brendan's use of
> the echo to generate a carriage-return.
>
> Here's my suggestion...this batch file copies a 100k help file from the d:
> drive to the local drive, then copies it 10 times, basically resulting in
> a read/write of 1mb.
>
test removed
>
> The above test runs in about 3.46 secs on my speed-doubled 200LX's C:
> drive and about 11.87 secs on my Kingston 20mb flash card.
>
> Total bytes copied is 1,023,810. Well...unsophisticated you asked for....

My system is a speed-doubled 8MB 200LX with an IBM 20MB Flash card.  All
tests were run with the AC adapter attached.  I use JAM to make an F:
and changed the "echo.|time" to "timer" as I am running 4DOS and don't
really want to do any time math this early in the morning!

DRIVE   TIME
C:      3.68 seconds (same number of seconds every time)
A:      ~10.02 seconds (not same, averaged over 3 runs)
F:      ~40.21 seconds (not same, averaged over 3 runs)

Wow.  I never realized the huge time penalty for using JAM!  I think
I'll have to get a bigger flash card.  How does Stacker stack up?

It is also intriguing to me that the flash card did not give the same
results when running the exact same test on the exact same hardware
in the exact same way.  (Well, almost exact...  I played a bit more while
typing this in and found that the longer you wait to rerun the test the
longer the time.  The average is more like ~38 seconds when running
the batch file right after each other.)

jaime
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Date:         Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:48:47 -0400
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On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ> wrote:

ka> Re my comment earlier on using stacker to format a card to 512
ka> clusters, has anybody tried this with a "Big" card? Mine are just
ka> 5meg, so 5,148,160 bytes and 10,055 clusters/sectors at 512
ka>
ka> Obviously, a bigger card is going to call for a bigger number of
ka> sectors and I don't know how the fat is going to react.

After reading your post i checked the clusters on my exp 8mb card
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On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Consuel Ionica <ionica@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU> wrote:

io> Sorry, I did not see all thread.
io> Using Excell and Word is good, but they require Windows 2 or 3.0.
io> In this case how much memory should a xl have to run all of them?

Consuel, you may run win 3.0 (or earlier) quite easily from an icon in
the sysmgr using maxdos (available on www.palmtop.net). My setup serves
up ~543k to windows using this method and i also serve it about 400k of
ems. Expanded mem is not of very much use to windows itself but excel
2.1 and word 1.1 both make very good use of it!

I would also like to reinforce the point made in an earlier post that
the thesaurus and speller in word alone make it worth the effort
especially if you use the palmtop to do more involved work than is
capable with memo or other text editors. I have generally been amazed
at what can be done on the palmtop using word and althought it runs a
bit slower than excel it will not have you staring at the hourglass
very long on a 2x machine.

As for me, excel 2.1 has been a gem - it is a far more powerful
application than the 123 in the rom and gives mobile number-crunchers
some very impressive functionality...

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Consuel Ionica wrote:
>
> I am not aware of any normal keyboard to be adapted through a PS2 to the
> LX. I have read however an article in Mobilis (forgot the www address)
> about a Korean IRDA keyboard as a second option beyond the Newton.
> Probably it is unavailable on the US market.
>
> On the other hand it will be useful if information will be collected
> through a survey to see which applications can be used from the newton
> keboard and which not. This may eventually help the author (my all
> respect for people like him) of the driver to improve it, and people
> plan if they need or not the keyboard or a certain program.
>
Following the recent discussion concerning IRDA, I suspect that an IRDA
keyboard might not be practical. However, given a little thought, it
might be very possible to make an IR device that would take an ordinary
PC keyboard and communicate by IR with the HPxxLX. If someone could
either dig out or tell me where to find out about the IR port on our
computers, I could probably do the hardware up to making a working
sample
if someone is willing to do the software. If there is enough interest,
it
might be possible to make some quantity.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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> From:    Cavendishl <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
> Is there a reasonable benchmarking program that everyone could run against
> their flash cards to determine the relative performance?  If even a small

I like this idea.  Create a benchmark program and record the comparative
results.  It should also include...

 pc type 95/100/200,
 pc speed up, if any and what type
 flash card manufacture
 flash card model and size and any other pertinent identifying info
 stacked, if any and by what program
 current cluster size
 owner that ran the program
 what else?

Now about the program, what should it do?
There should be measurements for Read as well as Write.

Current drain would also be nice but most people won't be able to
create a setup where it could be measured.

Also, since it'll be running on a flash disk already in use it should
be mostly insensitive to what the owner has already put on it.

And lastly someone should provide a bit of web space to hold the results
and they would also have to spend a bit of time updating it occasionally.

If someone could guess in advance the manufacturer that might come out
of this looking the best they might be contacted to see if they'd care
to contribute to cost of the web space.  (I don't thing the maker of
a poor performing card would be interested for long.)

Cheers...
Russ

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Use a ? for the "bad" character. EG  "delete  fil?nam"
if the bad char is in the fourth position.

Tim S. wrote:

> I have a bad file that just apeared on the c drive.  It has unusual
> characters in its name with no extension.  It orginally said it was 28 megs
> big, but it went to zero after running chkdsk/f.
>
> I cannot rename it or delete it.  I tried deleting the directory it was in
> but it says access denied.  I tried delete *.* but it says invalid
> directory.  I tried renaming but it will not rename.  I tried using ? to
> replace the 'bad' characters and delete or rename it but it says invalid
> directory.  Attrib won't work either.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> -Tim
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http://vtzone.ado.co.jp/front/home_US.html
The above is in Japan and they will sell you the basic unit for $350.
I think it is more stripped than the one listed below.
The PC110 (486/33) was discontinued last year. When I added
up the bits and pieces I would want it came to over $1000.
I think Libretto 50s can be had for about $1300. Thats a Pentium
and an 800 meg HD, 8 meg momory as I remember.

Quinton Jones JR wrote:

> Just got this from "WindowsCE-Talk" <WindowsCE-Talk@WindowsCE.Com>
> (Snip)
> IBM Pocket Computer and its availability.
> >
> >Why WinCE in black and white when you can Win95 in cOlOr?  (in the ad)
> >
> >Base Unit Cost : $749.00
> >which includes
> >6.25 x 4.5 x 1.25 1.3 lb unit
> >486/33MhZ processor
> >4.7" color display 640x480 256 colors
> >8 meg RAM upgradable to 40
> >4 meg internal flash drive
> >Sound blaster compatible sound/microhpone
> >Eraser style pointing device with 2 mouse buttons
> >Front LCD display, clock and battery level
> >LI-Ion battery
> >PCMCIA Type 3, yes III and compact flash slot (use the type 3 slot for
> hdrives)
> >speakerphone
> >touch pad
> >
> >Wow.  All you need is a type 3 hard drive and you are set!
> >They sell the hds at discount price if you get the unit with it
> >These accessories are listed for the unit with and then without purchase
> >of the unit:
> >
> >260 meg pcmcia 3 hd - 200/299
> >340 """" - 300/349
> >10x external cd rom  349
> >digital camera type 2 = 129
> >type 2 from 3 adapter - 59
> >They also have touch sensative screens coming soon
> >
> >I didn't list stuff like cases.
> >
> >And 16 MB RAM upgrade is 300.
> >
> >TO REACH THE COMPANY:
> >
> >1-800-528-9330
> >http://www.pocketcomp.com
> >
> >Hope this helps!
> >
> >Mark
> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date:         Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:34:26 -0500
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I am also a big fan of excel and word. I definitely think that excel is
much better than 123, and more intuive. About word, what could I say? I
use it since the begining of my school. My point was only that we miss
the way to use them from an external keyboard. Maybe it is just my
psychological reaction after using the LX for 5-7 hours a day (standing,
in this bitter cold weather) to record animal behavior data on the tiny
keys, that makes me wish I have full keyboard when editing and analyzing
them.

Also I thank all people making me understood that I still need a memory
card to run these gems. Despite my top 200LX with 4 megs of Ram,
windows, word and excel will simply not fit in.

Best regards,
Consuel Ionica
ionica@acsu.buffalo.edu

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With all this talk recently about Windows, Word, Excel, etc., on the
palmtop, I went back through my old diskettes and found my original copies
of Excel, versions 2.00 and 2.10.  I seem to recall that you didn't have to
have Windows installed to use these, they had a run-time module I think.
Does anyone remember this?

How do you go about installing these?

I also ran across diskettes for MS Project - this one I have the original
three-ring binder (as all MS documentation used to come in), but can't find
the diskettes.  This one I have run on the palmtop (file conversion is
one-way to current versions, although you can probably go the
comma-delimited way.  Are any of these "abandonware"?

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:23:40 +1300
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On 1998-01-15 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Cavendishl wrote:
   >> Is there a reasonable benchmarking program that everyone could
   >>run against  their flash cards to determine the relative
<Snip>
   >I wrote such a batch file awhile ago. Your suggestion of a standard
   >file available to everyone would be an improvement, as was
<Snip>
   >copy test.dat test2.dat
   >copy test.dat test2.dat
   >copy test.dat test2.dat
   >echo.|time
   >del test.dat
   >del test2.dat
   >The above test runs in about 3.46 secs on my speed-doubled 200LX's
   >C: drive and about 11.87 secs on my Kingston 20mb flash card.

On my SanDisk 5meg card, I get exactly the same "Effective" time,
as my LX is std, no clock doubling.

As I have written before, I have the card set for 512 byte
sectors, I must try with the normal format & report back.


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Setver!

I just remembered, I forgot to mention, for those of you
attempting your first foray into Windows on the Palmtop, you will
need to get a copy of setver.exe from Dos 5.0

This is loaded via the config.sys as device=a:\setver.exe (modify
the path to suit your installation)

Setver reports an earlier dos version to programs and has a table
built-in with the three earlier versions of windows that we can
run on the palmtop already extant.

One can reduce the size of setver in memory by editing the table.
Just type setver /? and follow the instructions.


David Lawrence
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I received Jorgen Wallgren's LXSTAT from David Birch. I'm using this
opportunity to thank them both, and I'm amazed it still isn't on SUPER site.
After typing the magic words "LXSTAT M G0", a miracle-AutoCad working! I tried
it on versions 2.6 and 10:both of them work, but v2.6 is faster, probably
because it doesn't require the emulator.

I have one question: did anyone succeed to connect some pointing device to a
palmtop? Mouse, touch-pad or something like that. I made F1015A cable and it
enables good communication between the palmtop and the desktop computer. After
that I made the null-modem according to the next scheme:

1-1
2-3
3-2
4-6
5-5
6-4
7-8
8-7
9-9

When I put it all together, and loaded the mouse driver, everything was working
(directions up and down, and all the keys), only the cursor couldn't move left
and right. Then I used another scheme:

1-4
2-3
3-2
4-1
4-6
5-5
6-4
7-8
8-7

This time directions left and right worked, and the ones for up and down
didn't.

I heard that some of the listers were luckier than me. Where do I go wrong? Is
it the cable, or the null-modem? Maybe it requires a different mouse (I used a
MS Mouse) or a different mouse driver?

Please, help me and be quick, becuse my soldering iron is likely to explode.
Thanks in advance.

Dejan

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Date:         Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:08:58 -0500
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> Have you tried deleting it from the built-in file-manager, "Filer"?
It is my expirence that file managers generally have better luck deleting
wierd named files. Something to do with command-line parsing, I guess.

I would think you would have more control and power in deleting a bogus
file directly from DOS. The System Manager or Filer in this case, acts as a
middle man (like Windows) with much too much control over file manipulation
(ie. Deleting).
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:09:51 +0000
Message-ID: <19980116190949.AAA10340@12.64.39.16>

On 1998-01-16 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
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   >On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Consuel Ionica <ionica@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU> wrote:
   >io> Sorry, I did not see all thread.
   >io> Using Excell and Word is good, but they require Windows 2 or 3.
   >io>0.  In this case how much memory should a xl have to run all of
   >them?
   >Consuel, you may run win 3.0 (or earlier) quite easily from an icon
   >in the sysmgr using maxdos (available on www.palmtop.net). My setup
   >serves up ~543k to windows using this method and i also serve it
   >about 400k of ems. Expanded mem is not of very much use to windows
   >itself but excel 2.1 and word 1.1 both make very good use of it!
   >I would also like to reinforce the point made in an earlier post
   >that the thesaurus and speller in word alone make it worth the
   >effort especially if you use the palmtop to do more involved work
   >than is capable with memo or other text editors. I have generally
   >been amazed at what can be done on the palmtop using word and
   >althought it runs a bit slower than excel it will not have you
   >staring at the hourglass very long on a 2x machine.
   >As for me, excel 2.1 has been a gem - it is a far more powerful
   >application than the 123 in the rom and gives mobile
   >number-crunchers some very impressive functionality...
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:09:59 +0000
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On 1998-01-16 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >As for me, excel 2.1 has been a gem - it is a far more powerful
   >application than the 123 in the rom and gives mobile
   >number-crunchers some very impressive functionality...

Ian,

Just out of curosity, in what ways do you find Excel 2.1 more powerful than
123?

Are you talking about functionality or ease-of-use? Because the latter can
be better addressed with WinCE, I would think.

If you're talking about the former, I would like to hear specifics...maybe
I should be running Excel also as I make fairly frequent use of 123.

- Longden

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:24:33 +1300
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On 1998-01-16 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >With all this talk recently about Windows, Word, Excel, etc., on the
   >palmtop, I went back through my old diskettes and found my original
   >copies of Excel, versions 2.00 and 2.10.  I seem to recall that you
   >didn't have to have Windows installed to use these, they had a
   >run-time module I think. Does anyone remember this?

100% correct.

   >How do you go about installing these?

Excel 2.0/2.1 is happy to run from any drive, unlike Word, which
writes the installed drive into the code and can trip you up if
you don't use assign.

As Excel has a stripped runtime kernel of MS Windows 2.0, it can
be installed in a truly minimalist fashion. I recommend
installing it on a PC by first setting the path to only \dos (or
whatever your dos directory is called) so that there is less
chance of the install program finding your Windows 3.1/3.11/95
and installing there.

I usually install to a directory like c:\excel and then use the
connectivity cable or a PC card reader to transfer the \excel
directory and sub-directories (with the tutorial and demo files)
lock-stock-and-barrel over to the palmtop card.


   >I also ran across diskettes for MS Project - this one I have the

Oooo, be still my beating heart! Is this a database? The one
thing I miss in my windows in the LX is a good database. The
cardfile/calendar/notepad combo is way short on functionality in
comparison to the excellent database built into the LX.

   >you can probably go the comma-delimited way.  Are any of these
   >"abandonware"?

Hey, let's startup the "abandonware" thread again! I firmly
believe in the concept, but am an insignificant pawn to the
"movers and shakers" that squished Trixter et al.

Anybody had/have/has a good database running in windows on the
palmtop? I don't mean in Excel, either, I mean a "Real"
database...

David Lawrence
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On 1998-01-16 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz

<Snip>

   >Consuel, you may run win 3.0 (or earlier) quite easily from an icon
   >in the sysmgr using maxdos (available on www.palmtop.net). My setup
   >serves up ~543k to windows using this method and i also serve it
   >about 400k of ems. Expanded mem is not of very much use to windows

How do you get the ems??? I tried emm200 several times and could
not get any joy, windows refused to load, necessitating a
hard-boot.

   >I would also like to reinforce the point made in an earlier post
   >that the thesaurus and speller in word alone make it worth the
   >effort especially if you use the palmtop to do more involved work
   >than is capable with memo or other text editors. I have generally

AMEN! Also, multiple file handling is too good to be without!

   >been amazed at what can be done on the palmtop using word and
   >although it runs a bit slower than excel it will not have you
   >staring at the hourglass very long on a 2x machine.
   >As for me, excel 2.1 has been a gem - it is a far more powerful
   >application than the 123 in the rom and gives mobile
   >number-crunchers some very impressive functionality...

The print-preview in Excel is worth the entry price alone! And of
course, Word has print-preview with one or two pages displayed,
kinda wonderful to have in the pocket, huh?

Anybody out there know how to get these early versions of windows
to see/read/use truetype fonts???
David Lawrence
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On 1998-01-16 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >I am also a big fan of excel and word. I definitely think that
   >excel is much better than 123, and more intuive. About word, what
   >could I say? I use it since the begining of my school. My point was
   >only that we miss the way to use them from an external keyboard.
   >Maybe it is just my psychological reaction after using the LX for
   >5-7 hours a day (standing, in this bitter cold weather) to record
   >animal behavior data on the tiny keys, that makes me wish I have
   >full keyboard when editing and analyzing them.
   >Also I thank all people making me understood that I still need a
   >memory card to run these gems. Despite my top 200LX with 4 megs of
   >Ram, windows, word and excel will simply not fit in.
   >Best regards,
   >Consuel Ionica
   >ionica@acsu.buffalo.edu

If you are utterly ruthless with the install, ie: no help files
and no help engine, no
cardfile/notepad/calc/paint/spooler/terminal/etc, and you limit
the number of conversion filters for word, you can get down to
nearly 2.7-2.8meg if you have Excel and Word in there.


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On 1998-01-16 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >--__next_part__1188839310__
   >On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ> wrote:
   >ka> Re my comment earlier on using stacker to format a card to 512
   >ka> clusters, has anybody tried this with a "Big" card? Mine are
   >ka>just  5meg, so 5,148,160 bytes and 10,055 clusters/sectors at 512

   >After reading your post i checked the clusters on my exp 8mb card
   >(compressed w/stacker 4) and it has 4k clusters...
   >Regards,
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Yup, I said that, INSIDE the stacvol, your "working A: drive" you
will find 4k clusters.

Reboot and press Alt, select Default drive D:, process startup
files and you will see your card with a 3.~meg stacvol hidden
file. Check the cluster size now...

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>
> > Have you tried deleting it from the built-in file-manager, "Filer"?
> It is my expirence that file managers generally have better luck deleting
> wierd named files. Something to do with command-line parsing, I guess.
>
> I would think you would have more control and power in deleting a bogus
> file directly from DOS. The System Manager or Filer in this case, acts as
a
> middle man (like Windows) with much too much control over file
manipulation
> (ie. Deleting).
> =================================================


Well, after all the help.  The only thing that worked was backing up the c
drive and reinitializing it after the hard reset.

Thanks for everyone's help.

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On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, David Lawrence wrote:

> On 1998-01-16 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
>
> <Snip>
more snip
>    >I would also like to reinforce the point made in an earlier post
>    >that the thesaurus and speller in word alone make it worth the
>    >effort especially if you use the palmtop to do more involved work
>    >than is capable with memo or other text editors. I have generally
>
> AMEN! Also, multiple file handling is too good to be without!

PalEdit and Freyja have multiple file handling and GDSPELL is a pretty
good shareware spellchecker. Besides, everyone knows that Word Perfect 5.1
is much better than Word :-). I haven't installed it on my 200LX yet,
though.  (Some are sure to disagree. Please do so via e-mail or in a new
thread)

> Anybody out there know how to get these early versions of windows
> to see/read/use truetype fonts???

I don't think Windows had truetype fonts until version 3.1. If you want
truetype font functionality in 3.0 you need to get something like Adobe
Type Manager, which enables you to use postscript(?) fonts. It is probably
very memory intensive, so it might not run so well on the LX.


Regards,

Laust

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     Hi!
     I have been running WP 5.1 for as long as I have my 200LX, About three
     years. No problem and is fast.

     Helmut in Colorado


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On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, David Lawrence wrote:

> On 1998-01-16 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
>
> <Snip>
more snip
>    >I would also like to reinforce the point made in an earlier post
>    >that the thesaurus and speller in word alone make it worth the
>    >effort especially if you use the palmtop to do more involved work
>    >than is capable with memo or other text editors. I have generally
>
> AMEN! Also, multiple file handling is too good to be without!

PalEdit and Freyja have multiple file handling and GDSPELL is a pretty good
shareware spellchecker. Besides, everyone knows that Word Perfect 5.1 is
much better than Word :-). I haven't installed it on my 200LX yet, though.
(Some are sure to disagree. Please do so via e-mail or in a new thread)

> Anybody out there know how to get these early versions of windows
> to see/read/use truetype fonts???

I don't think Windows had truetype fonts until version 3.1. If you want
truetype font functionality in 3.0 you need to get something like Adobe Type
Manager, which enables you to use postscript(?) fonts. It is probably very
memory intensive, so it might not run so well on the LX.


Regards,

Laust

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On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Jaime Viehweg <jviehweg@LUCENT.COM> wrote:

jv> DRIVE   TIME
jv> C:      3.68 seconds (same number of seconds every time)
jv> A:      ~10.02 seconds (not same, averaged over 3 runs)
jv> F:      ~40.21 seconds (not same, averaged over 3 runs)
jv>
jv> Wow.  I never realized the huge time penalty for using JAM!  I think
jv> I'll have to get a bigger flash card.  How does Stacker stack up?

Stacker is significantly faster in disk-intensive routines such as
re-indexing a file when compared to Jam on my 2x 200lx. Reads and
writes are about the same more or less i found but i am yet to see jam
actually *beat* stacker 4 in terms of speed or compression...

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Okay, these are the results of running the c123us.hlp-copying batch file
benchmark on my double-speed 200LX, averaged for three trials:

C drive: 4.6 seconds

Pretec 32MB card:
223 seconds with no key held down
22 seconds with CTRL held down

Microtech 40MB card:
7.3 seconds

As can be seen from this, the Pretec cards are behaving strangely.

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On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> Okay, these are the results of running the c123us.hlp-copying batch file
> benchmark on my double-speed 200LX, averaged for three trials:
>
> C drive: 4.6 seconds
>
> Pretec 32MB card:
> 223 seconds with no key held down
> 22 seconds with CTRL held down

> As can be seen from this, the Pretec cards are behaving strangely.

I don't find it so strange (but it is if the following isn't correct).

Isn't holding down a key basically the same as forcing it to disable light
sleep, which is commonly referred to as "resting between keystrokes"?  By
holding down the CTRL key there are no keystrokes to rest between, and
thus the machine runs as fast as it can. Have you tried the test without
pressing CTRL, but with light sleep disabled? I'm curious to know how
long it takes.
(A program called LXstat that can enable/disable light sleep. There are
probably others too)


Regards,

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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> I don't find it so strange (but it is if the following isn't correct).
> Isn't holding down a key basically the same as forcing it to disable light
> sleep, which is commonly referred to as "resting between keystrokes"?  By
> holding down the CTRL key there are no keystrokes to rest between, and
> thus the machine runs as fast as it can. Have you tried the test without
> pressing CTRL, but with light sleep disabled? I'm curious to know how
> long it takes.


Should've mentioned that.  I thought of this first thing, too.  So I disabled
it.  Makes no difference whatsoever whether or not light sleep is disabled.
It runs at the same speed.  It's just bizarre!  I'm thinking it must be a
power saving mode of the card itself.  But what good is power-saving if the
card takes 10 times longer?  And Pretec hasn't mailed me back with any
solutions...
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Hi,

A little while back, someone mentioned a couple of programs that can
double the speed of the LX (sounds implausible, doesn't it?).

Anyway, I think it was suggested to try this with the hardware double
speed up (with the crystal). I'm wondering if a 4xspeed LX was the
result?


Also, does anyone know how these programs work, or whether they apply to
any program - such as a compiler - or do they just speed up screen
access or something.


Thank you very much! I'm looking for a faster computer.

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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:45:30 +0000
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On 1998-01-16 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >As for me, excel 2.1 has been a gem - it is a far more powerful
   >application than the 123 in the rom and gives mobile
   >number-crunchers some very impressive functionality...

Excel seems certainly easier to learn (and remember) than 123, but what
added functionality does Excel give you that makes it more powerful than
123?

I doubt you're referring to ease of use, since WinCE would probably fit
the bill better in that area.

I use 123 frequently, but I'll switch if there's a good reason to do so.

- Longden

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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> That is odd!
> I'm even more curious:
> What happens when you have your AC adapter attached? (I remember this made
> a big difference on the 95LX)
> And, do you load a driver specific to the card? if not, how does it know
> that you are pressing a key?


Same thing with the AC adapter attached.  And there's no driver loaded.  It's just
a standard ATA compatible card.  I'm not sure what the key-pressing does, but
somehow it makes a big difference.
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The program you mention is called Turbo. You can find it at www.palmtop.net.
It works by disabling some memory wait states and gives a modest speed
increase on a plain vanilla 200LX. It just crashes or does nothing to the
clock doubled LX.

BTW, the price you pay is screen flicker when using Turbo.

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I missed a lot of this thread but I'm curious...

It sounds like I may get faster speed from my pretec card if I hold down the
CTRL key?

It also formats to 2K clusters whereby my older IBM (SANDISK)PADfile card
formatted to 4K clusters and was faster.... Go figure.

The pretec card is slow as hell. Any other ideas ?

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Eddiebabes wrote:

> I missed a lot of this thread but I'm curious...
> It sounds like I may get faster speed from my pretec card if I hold down the
> CTRL key?
> It also formats to 2K clusters whereby my older IBM (SANDISK)PADfile card
> formatted to 4K clusters and was faster.... Go figure.
> The pretec card is slow as hell. Any other ideas ?


Yes, it will increase many times in speed if you hold down a key.  Disabling
lite sleep won't work; you have to actually hold down a key.  CTRL is the best
key to hold down as it won't fill up the keyboard buffer.  (ALT would work
too...)  There has been some speculation that Pretec cards are going into some
kind of sleep mode between keypresses, but Pretec has not confirmed this or
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On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

ll> Just out of curosity, in what ways do you find Excel 2.1 more powerful=
 than
ll> 123?
ll>
ll> Are you talking about functionality or ease-of-use? Because the =
latter can
ll> be better addressed with WinCE, I would think.
ll>
ll> If you're talking about the former, I would like to hear specifics...m=
aybe
ll> I should be running Excel also as I make fairly frequent use of 123.

Longden, there is no easy way to continue this thread without opening a
pandora's box but i shall try. <g>

First off let me say that i have been weaned on 123 and used it from
version 2.2 thru to version 4 for windows but after switching to excel
about 3 years ago i am now a bit rusty especially with the one
available in the palmtop's rom so please excuse any oversights i make.

On the question of ease-of-use or functionality i would have to say:
both. As for Pocket Excel: it doesn't even come remotely close to what
can be acheived with excel 2.1 on the 200lx... As a matter of fact you
maybe quite surprised to see just how many features had already found
themselves into this version back in July '88!

I live by a spreadsheet. Practically all my work (every aspect of it)
goes into a spreadsheet and i also need to move lots of data between my
palmtop and win95 desktop. That said you may appreciate right away that
the actual presentation of my sheets are of key importance since many
have to be presented to customers and clients.

Excel 2.1's superior graphing is of great importance to me in
particular because almost every sheet has to present various views of
my data, forecasts, pricing etc.. The graphing functions of the
palmtop's 123 doesn't even come close to matching excel 2.1. Quite
apart from the graphs, when you need to manage data to be presented,
formatting is a valuable asset - in this department there is no
contest whatever between the two. I make use of every tool at my
disposal including: alignment of numerical inputs, borders,
justification, row heights, fonts, shading etc..

In addition to the obvious advantages above, excel is easier for me to
use in developing my work employing its function pasting with and w/o
arguments on the statusline - i use this quite often as most of my
sheets are loaded with functions and formulae. As we are discussing
formulae this is yet another area of superiority also. I can debug a
sheet far quicker using excel due to is clever formula precedents and
dependents functions. Sorting data in excel works better for me too
because i can specify 1st, 2nd and *3rd* sortkeys all at once.

Another item i consider more powerful and useful to me is the way in
which excel can parse data. Again 123 offers little contest here. An
absolutely essential feature of excel for me also is the way in which
it handles csv files! My accounting software (peachtree) often
requires me to export data, massage it and import the finished product
back into the program. This is *very* important to me and excel reads
and writes csv's just as well as a native excel format! Try doing that
w/123. <g> Well actually it can be done with the proper add-in but not
nearly as well as excel does it on its own.

All round i find excel's way of doing things has grown to fit my
lifestyle perfectly (or should that be the other way round <g>) and
does not impose some of the limitations and annoyances i have with 123
ie: having to remove the title settings before going into the title
area to edit an entry or not being able to hide rows.

On the question also of reading and writing other non-native formats
123 comes up way short... Excel 2.1 can easily read and write wks,
wk1, dbf2, dbf3, csv, sylk and other file formats. Getting an excel
file into 123 is a nogo without first converting *outside* of 123 as
you are aware (the dreaded "not a valid worksheet" prompt still gives
me nightmares <g>). To be honest when i look at the two programs its
hard to imagine that they were both of more of less the same era...
tho i must admit that being a windows program gives excel an unfair
advantage at the starting line (some may consider that a disadvantage
<g>).... Users of @BASE clearly have different needs than i do and for
these and similar uses, 123 perhaps cannot easily be challenged by
Excel.

Nonetheless i maintain the highest regard for the 123 in the rom and
haven't a single negative remark for users who select to use it - i
still use it myself for a quick calculation mainly because it jumps up
much faster than i can bring excel 2.1 to life - but it is relegated
to only mundane tasks on my machine i'm afraid...

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On Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:24:42 +1300 (NZDT), katana@clear.net.nz wrote:

ka> Yup, I said that, INSIDE the stacvol, your "working A: drive" you
ka> will find 4k clusters.
ka>
ka> Reboot and press Alt, select Default drive D:, process startup
ka> files and you will see your card with a 3.~meg stacvol hidden
ka> file. Check the cluster size now...

Okay David perhaps my previous post was unclear - here are the details
again (i am using stacker 4.0 on my c: and f: drives):

    Drive c: mounted =3D 8k clusters
    Drive c: unmounted =3D .5k clusters
    Drive f: mounted =3D 8k clusters
    Drive f: unmounted =3D 4k clusters.

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Date:         Fri, 16 Jan 1998 23:38:58 -0600
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I would like a 200lx manual, if anyone one has an extra please contact
me about payment.

Thanks,

Stan

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Stan,
-> I would like a 200lx manual, if anyone one has an extra please
-> contact me about payment.

You can buy them from Thaddeus (www.thaddeus.com) brand new.  $15 I
believe.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 01:05:38 -0500
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At 11:38 PM 1/16/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I would like a 200lx manual, if anyone one has an extra please contact
>me about payment.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Stan

Well you are blessed and I am cursed.  Since my 200 was stolen, I have all
the manuals and boxes, but no use for them.  I'll see if I can get them
together.  Prices anyone?  I don't know what it should cost.
Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 17:10:32 +1100
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Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@diku.dk>
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.HPP.3.95.980117042859.25471A-100000@grerr.diku.dk> from
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> http://eddie.mit.edu/ftp/pub/hp95lx/unknown/turbo.zip
>
> It is the program that speeds up the normal LX some 7% (although it feels
> like more :-).


> how often the processor halts execution to refresh the RAM
Do yu know why HP designed it to be halting more often than it needs to?
Is it just another example of HP over-engineering, and the turbo program
is pushing the envelop? (just as the 2x crystal does...)


> further speedup, however, by disabling the screen - with obvious
> side effects :-)
The LXMIDI program does this; but how can I do it?
Is there a simple program I can call from a .bat file?

> And if you get the above program you can have a small, but painless speed
> upgrade :-)
I think I should do it...


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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:31:22 -0500
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You are blessed too, I have an extra HP200LX for sale.
I just got my memory upgrade for my new HP200LX back, so I
don't need this backup machine anymore.

It's a 200LX 1 Meg, serial # SG50500348, it's in perfect
workinging order, with no cracks, missing feet, or missing
dots on its screen.

The first $150 takes.

Thanks,
            Yi

From: Ian Butler <ianrb@CASPERS.NET>
>>I would like a 200lx manual, if anyone one has an extra please contact
>>me about payment.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Stan
>
>Well you are blessed and I am cursed.  Since my 200 was stolen, I have all
>the manuals and boxes, but no use for them.  I'll see if I can get them
>together.  Prices anyone?  I don't know what it should cost.
>Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
>Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:55:48 -1
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Comments: cc: dsands@BIDMC.HARVARD.EDU

   > <~BIG~ snip>    I subsequently bought
   >a 40 meg Sundisk/Sandisk that was OEMed by MagicRam and it performs
   >well (and has a lifetime warranty).
Does sundisk/sandisk offer this lifetime warrenty, or is it just Magicram?
I'd like to know this since my dead hp flashcard is also from
sandisk/sundisk. If so, where should I send the card (or who should I
contact) in europe (more precize: the Netherlands)?

Thanks
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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 22:20:01 +1300
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Comments: cc: lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET

On 1998-01-16 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:45:30 +0000
   >On 1998-01-16 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
<Snip>

   >>As for me, excel 2.1 has been a gem - it is a far more powerful
   >Excel seems certainly easier to learn (and remember) than 123, but
   >what added functionality does Excel give you that makes it more
   >powerful than 123?
<Snip>

I think the ability to open multiple files is un-missable, also,
the print-preview is so much faster than wasting paper with 123
or tediously calculating character counts and columns and stuff.

Graphing/Charting is better suppoeted, one can have the graph
open and tiled/overlapping the data and enter data & see the
effect (almost) immediately.

Color is easy to work with, although it requires a mental set to
keep an "idea" of what you are doing with the colors.

The Database/Form mode is far easier to setup with Excel.

Supports saving the "Workspace" allowing you to return to exactly
where you left off including all files and windows and charts
arranged as when saved.

Dynamic linking to Word...

BTW, I just bought some manuals at our local computer fair and in
the pile was a price list, dated 13 Nov 1989 and the list for
Excel 2.1 in Auckland at that time was $1,295.00 + GST so I guess
my copy at $50.00 was a great price?


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 09:45:52 -0500
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Using the test on a single-speed, NSW upgraded 6MB 200LX with 10MB SUndisk
SDP-10, formatted with 2K clusters:

c: 7s
a: 22s
No diff if I hold down any keys.  This is an original SUNdisk, not Sandisk
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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:28:47 +0000
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Hello, I'd be interested in learning how users of Info Select for DOS on
the HP200LX tend to use it in combination with the existing features on
the HP such as Notetaker, database etc.

I've just installed Info Select on the HP200LX and am learning its
features.

I think what makes sense is to use Info Select to throw in random data
on the run, then later organise it within Info Select, then later when
time allows, use the HP Notetaker, phonebook and database to "hold" the
information in a structured way.

However, I realise that doing that kind of defeats the object of having
Info Select in that you can't "instantly" retrieve all slugs of
information based on a key word(s) from the HP's built - in applications
like you can in Info Select.

I'm sure that Info Select AND the HP200LX built - in applications
probably complement each other and can be used in parallel.

OR............. would I be better advised transferring all the data I
have in the HP200LX applications into Info Select and ditching the HP
built - in applications totally? In other words, is it best just to rely
on Info Select TOTALLY for all your information management needs,
perhaps just using the diary function on the HP which to my mind, is
better for appointment setting and "to - do" management than Info
Select?

Any views based on your experiences?


Dr Peter Maddern
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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:59:15 +0000
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I've seen a couple of postings about running early versions of Word and
Excel on the HP200LX.

A couple of questions. Apologies if they've already been answered
before.

Are they available for free download or are they avaialable by purchase
only? If the latter, from where please?

Are formats such as bold and italic in the particular version of Word
and borders etc in Excel visible on the HP's screen (unlike WP51 and
Lotus 123)?

As a non - computechie (merely an avid user of PC's and the HP200LX),
how can windows programmes run under the HP's DOS operating system?

Using these progs instead of WP51 and Lotus 123 could be good for me as
I could synch with Word 7 and Excel 6 on my PC via Intellilink and have
a lot of the formatting done already?

Thank you

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 23:19:46 +0800
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Hi,

I am working on my first C program that will hopefully be released within a
near future. It's a EXM program for the HP 200LX and I am thinking about
putting in some nice features (maybe- if it's not to complicated to do),
but I don't know how to calculate following:

1.) Sun Rise & Sun Set at a specific location, date & time.
2.) The moon phase for a specific location, date & time.

If you know, I would highly appreciate if you could send me the information
to:

jorgen@palmtop.net OR wallgren@singnet.com.sg

Thanks and Regards,

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 09:30:12 -0600
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On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Peter Maddern wrote:

>
> Are formats such as bold and italic in the particular version of Word
> and borders etc in Excel visible on the HP's screen (unlike WP51 and
> Lotus 123)?
>

I realize you won't get WP to display actual italics, but if you go
into Setup/Display/Colors/Screen Colors, you ought to be able to pick
some settings that will let you distinguish bold and italics on the
text editing screen.

Hope that is helpful.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 10:31:56 -0500
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Hi gang-

Thought this might be useful for Post/LX users.  On Wednesday
afternoon, Post/LX stopped picking up my mail when connecting to my
ISP.  PPP connection established OK, then the "Waiting for response
from POP server" --- then nothing  8-(     Fortunately, I have 2
internet accounts, so could TELNET into the one with the problem.  Also
(more luck) the ISP has PINE available to read the mail.

Anyhow, this morning, after a couple of cups of coffee, my remaining
grey cells got in gear, and I remembered the WWW/LX address cache, and
figured that maybe the software was using an outdated address for the
POP server.  After dumping the cache, and reconnecting, everything
works fine  8-)

If you're using Post/LX, and your mail service suddenly dies, try
dumping the cache.

-PR
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I have some older programs that I received with older computers,
Windows 1.03
Rest of programs tested on win3.1
Adobe Type Manager (2 disk)
MsWord 2.0 (I believe) (7 disk)
MsExcel around 2.0 I think (5 disk)
MsPublisher (3 disk)
MsPowerPoint (7 disk)
The New Print Shop (3 disk)

I got all of these around 1992 and now consider them abandonware so if
anyone wants one email me
If these aren't considered abandonware the email me and I'll promptly
withdraw my offer to email any of
these programs

    -James

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->I've just installed Info Select on the HP200LX and am learning its
->features.

Not familiar with either, is InfoSelect similar to the shareware FLEXPAD
or are the two totally different?

Jeff


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Hi, folks:

I have a long story with some questions that maybe some
HP200LX-hardware-guru can ask:

I've been investigating a little bit lately about the king of memory that
my HP200LX uses, memory upgrades and all that stuff.

Since I own a 4MB model, and knew that it's just a newer 2MB model with a
2MB daughterboard already plugged, I opened it in order to see what's
inside. I must mention that I own the developer's manual, and despite it's
not very clear about this point, it gives useful hints about the memory
organization scheme.

My 200LX has a 1Mx16, 3.3V, 1K refresh page (non-EDO) DRAM chip on board.
The daughterboard has another chip OEMed by IBM (confusing marking), but
it's also the same kind of chip. Important: the daughterboard is designed
for *TWO* chips, I mean that there's place to solder another chip, but
removing the green protection layer that is on the pads would be needed.

Thus, just soldering another chip on the daughterboard would give me a
total of 6MB, just like the 4MB memory upgrade. I think that Times2Tech has
a missing product in their list: a memory chip for 4MB model owners.

According to the developer's manual, the HP200LX has four RAS lines, and,
with a total of 6MB only three of them are in use. This means, that a
fourth memory chip can be added for a total of 8MB, but only two RAS lines
are available in the expansion connector, so, the RAS signal of a thrid
expansion chip on a three chip expansion board would have to be connected
by means of a wire to the RAS line on the main board. This is obviously
what happens with the 8MB memory upgrade from Times2Tech.

In a e-mail exchange with a person from one of the memory upgrades
retailers, he mentioned that they had successfully upgraded HP200LXs to
10MB and 18MB (*CAN* you imagine it ?), but it required serious working on
the (main?)board, so they decided it was not practical to offer it.

I've been thinking about this, and concluded that the only way to do this
is using 64MB (megabits) DRAM, organized as 4Mx16 (this is, 8 megabytes per
chip). In this case, the extra address lines required are not present in
the expansion connector (just like the missing RAS signal), and some wiring
to the mainboard would be needed.

With one chip, you'd get a 10MB machine, with two chips, you'd get a 18MB
machine.

But it's not so simple. With DRAM, the address lines are multiplexed.
First, the row is selected, and then the column. A 4MB space address can be
organized as 4096 rows x 1024 columns or as 8192 rows x 512 columns. When
DRAM refresh happens, the refresh address is given for one row.

The 1MBx16 chips currently used, are organized as 1024 rows x 1024 columns,
this is, ten address lines for rows and ten address lines for columns. All
the columns in a row form what is called a page. Since there are ten
address lines for columns, the page size is 1K.

So, I guess that the DRAM address generation in the HP200LX is for 1K pages
and cannot be changed. If this is true, the 4Mx16 chip organized as 4096
rows x 1024 columns would do for memory upgrades.

If all this is true, the following expansions would be possible for the
HP200LX (hold your breath):

1- 2MB onboard + 8MB = 10MB(one 4Mx16 chip)
2- 2MB onboard + 16MB = 18MB (two 4M x 16 chips)
3- 2MB onboard + 24MB = 26MB (three 4M x 16 chips, in case they fit)

(1) and (2) would require wiring A10 and A11 lines from the mainboard to
the daughterboard. (3) would require, in addition, wiring the unused RAS line.

It would also be possible replacing the main board 2MB (1MBx16) chip by a
8MB (4MBx16) chip, since the pinouts are very similar. But NOT equal,
cutting at least two PCB tracks and wiring them to different pins would be
needed, as well as wiring some other pins.
This would definitely not be for beginners, but just imagine having a 32MB
HP200LX. Isn't it worth the work ?. By the way, this work would be exactly
the same required to replace the 2MB chips on the daughterboard by 8MB
ones. Otherwise, design of a new daughterboard would be needed (quite easy
anyway).

The problems, (and hereby the questions) are that:

1- I don't know the DRAM address generation schema of the Hornet chip.
Would be enough knowing that it is fixed for 1K page.

2- I don't know where are located in the main board the address lines A10,
A11, and the unused RAS. This should be possible to guess, since the
developer's manual gives a list of all Hornet chip pins (but without pin
number !!!), assuming they're correctly ordered, and the location of many
of them can be resolved by inspection of the expansion board connector
routing.


ANY comments, suggestions, or hints are welcome.

Regards. Nacho.



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Using Maxfind on the Simtel index
    mf -a astron/sunris/sunset calc  simtel.ix
yielded these files:
aa-54.zip    299K  961212  Astronomical ephemeris calculator, C sources
sun.zip         30K  880330  Calculate sunrise and sunset times

Another treasure on Simtel:
snip9707.zip    965K  970709  ~2.4 Mb of free C source/info, 30% PC specific

Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am working on my first C program that will hopefully be released within a
> near future. It's a EXM program for the HP 200LX and I am thinking about
> putting in some nice features (maybe- if it's not to complicated to do),
> but I don't know how to calculate following:
>
> 1.) Sun Rise & Sun Set at a specific location, date & time.
> 2.) The moon phase for a specific location, date & time.
>
> If you know, I would highly appreciate if you could send me the information
> to:
>
> jorgen@palmtop.net OR wallgren@singnet.com.sg
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>  -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> |jorgen@palmtop.net      |    Mobile Computing -> HP 200LX Palmtop PC     |
> |wallgren@singnet.com.sg |------------------------------------------------|
> |wallgren@newspage.com.sg|Unlike fine wine, bottled-up emotions do not    |
> |jorgen_wallgren@hp.com  |taste better with  time...                      |
> |-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
> |This message reflects my private opinion and not necessary my company's. |
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On 1998-01-17 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >I've seen a couple of postings about running early versions of Word
   >and Excel on the HP200LX.
   >A couple of questions. Apologies if they've already been answered
   >before.
   >Are they available for free download or are they available by
                         
   >purchase only? If the latter, from where please?

Oh how I wish! I spent many, many months, searching out these two
programs. Microsoft (Auckland, NZ) deny's all knowledge
of/support for these earlier versions, preferring to concentrate
generating sales for the "New" products. BUT, they emphatically
want to retain "ownership" of the copyright, meaning a one-way
street to Bill Gates' pocket!

Sorry about that, I'm a firm believer in "Abandonware" and wish
for a way to circumvent the "Big Boys" who would be SO
disadvantaged by several hundreds (?) of LX owners trading copies
of 10 year old software because they cannot fit "Word 97" at
200meg into their computer of choice, even though most of us have
paid for it and run it on our "Great White Paper-Weight/Wait's"

I regularly advertise in our local free-trade newspaper computer
column asking for old software and have had some great deals
handed to me, but finding Excel 2.1 took me ages!

   >Are formats such as bold and italic in the particular version of
   >Word and borders etc in Excel visible on the HP's screen (unlike
   >WP51 and Lotus 123)?

Yup.

   >As a non - computechie (merely an avid user of PC's and the
   >HP200LX), how can windows programmes run under the HP's DOS
   >operating system?

Just a couple (of easily sourced) progs are needed, sleepon.zip
from S.U.P.E.R. (by Stefan Peichl) and setver.exe from Dos 5.0
and make sure you use Windows 1.0/2.0/3.0 as 3.1 will NOT install
or run.

   >Using these progs instead of WP51 and Lotus 123 could be good for
   >me as I could synch with Word 7 and Excel 6 on my PC via
   >Intellilink and have a lot of the formatting done already?

Yup.

   >Thank you
   >Dr Peter Maddern
   >Product Developer
   >North Wales, UK.

You are most welcome, I wish you much happiness with "The
computer of choice" and the advantages inherent in
Windows/Excel/Word.


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Im interested in your HP 200lx 1mb that you have for sale. Is it still
available?

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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> From: Yi Wang <yi@SPRINTMAIL.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Forsale: 200LX 1 Meg  WAS Re: 200LX manual
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 1:31 AM
>
> You are blessed too, I have an extra HP200LX for sale.
> I just got my memory upgrade for my new HP200LX back, so I
> don't need this backup machine anymore.
>
> It's a 200LX 1 Meg, serial # SG50500348, it's in perfect
> workinging order, with no cracks, missing feet, or missing
> dots on its screen.
>
> The first $150 takes.
>
> Thanks,
>             Yi
>
> From: Ian Butler <ianrb@CASPERS.NET>
> >>I would like a 200lx manual, if anyone one has an extra please contact
> >>me about payment.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Stan
> >
> >Well you are blessed and I am cursed.  Since my 200 was stolen, I have
all
> >the manuals and boxes, but no use for them.  I'll see if I can get them
> >together.  Prices anyone?  I don't know what it should cost.
> >Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
> >Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
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In message <885055909.0619685.0@piglet.toward.com>,
malkajef@orthohelp.com writes
>
>->I've just installed Info Select on the HP200LX and am learning its
>->features.
>
>Not familiar with either, is InfoSelect similar to the shareware FLEXPAD
>or are the two totally different?
>
>Jeff
>
>
I think? Micro Logic's Info Select (IS) and the shareware Flexpad work
on similar principles (input text info into windows and instant
retrieval of information) but I believe IS is much more powerful and
feature rich.

Micro Logic's web page is www.miclog.com. They don't feature info on
their old DOS version any more but the page has an e-mail address where
you can ask them for information. They were very good with me and faxed
me a description of the software plus some reviews.

This software dates to around 1990 I think.

Regards
Dr Peter Maddern
Product Developer
North Wales, UK.
Pmad@devt.demon.co.uk

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> This would definitely not be for beginners, but just imagine having a =
32MB
> HP200LX. Isn't it worth the work ?.

 Nacho,

 Terra Network Systems in Japan mention a 32MB upgrade at their site:

 http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~tns/tnshp16.html

 So, it can be done!

 Would be great. All that memory! Would free up the card slot!
 Unlimited EMM (well up to about 9MB for Software Carousel<G>).

Regards, Tony

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Not entirely so.  The screen flicker is with only one of the Turbo
programs, not all three.

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>
>The program you mention is called Turbo. You can find it at www.palmtop.net.
>It works by disabling some memory wait states and gives a modest speed
>increase on a plain vanilla 200LX. It just crashes or does nothing to the
>clock doubled LX.
>
>BTW, the price you pay is screen flicker when using Turbo.
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Can you point me in the correct direction to find SETVER?  I think it's
needed to get Excel 2.1 to run (I keep getting an incorrect DOS version
error).  Could you give a brief description of files required and what else
you might have to do to get it to run?

I've had these diskettes sitting in a filing cabinet for ten years or so;
never thought they would run on the LX!

I threw out an early version of windows a couple of years; now I'm sorry.
Would you have any ideas of where a person might find an old version?  What
version do you recommend running on the LX?

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I've used it for almost a year now with no side effects, crashes, etc.  The
only detriment is that alarms in appt are played faster.

At 05:10 PM 1/17/98 +1100, you wrote:
>> http://eddie.mit.edu/ftp/pub/hp95lx/unknown/turbo.zip
>>
>> It is the program that speeds up the normal LX some 7% (although it feels
>> like more :-).
>
>
>> how often the processor halts execution to refresh the RAM
>Do yu know why HP designed it to be halting more often than it needs to?
>Is it just another example of HP over-engineering, and the turbo program
>is pushing the envelop? (just as the 2x crystal does...)
>
>
>> further speedup, however, by disabling the screen - with obvious
>> side effects :-)
>The LXMIDI program does this; but how can I do it?
>Is there a simple program I can call from a .bat file?
>
>> And if you get the above program you can have a small, but painless speed
>> upgrade :-)
>I think I should do it...
>
>
>--
>Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
>http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren             PROJECT: the essence of melody
> "I get knocked down But I get up again You're never going to keep me down"
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How did you get it to run?  Mine comes up with a wrong DOS version error.
Would you mind giving me some pointers to help get mine up and running?

At 10:20 PM 1/17/98 +1300, you wrote:
>On 1998-01-16 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
>   >Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:45:30 +0000
>   >On 1998-01-16 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
><Snip>
>
>   >>As for me, excel 2.1 has been a gem - it is a far more powerful
>   >Excel seems certainly easier to learn (and remember) than 123, but
>   >what added functionality does Excel give you that makes it more
>   >powerful than 123?
><Snip>
>
>I think the ability to open multiple files is un-missable, also,
>the print-preview is so much faster than wasting paper with 123
>or tediously calculating character counts and columns and stuff.
>
>Graphing/Charting is better suppoeted, one can have the graph
>open and tiled/overlapping the data and enter data & see the
>effect (almost) immediately.
>
>Color is easy to work with, although it requires a mental set to
>keep an "idea" of what you are doing with the colors.
>
>The Database/Form mode is far easier to setup with Excel.
>
>Supports saving the "Workspace" allowing you to return to exactly
>where you left off including all files and windows and charts
>arranged as when saved.
>
>Dynamic linking to Word...
>
>BTW, I just bought some manuals at our local computer fair and in
>the pile was a price list, dated 13 Nov 1989 and the list for
>Excel 2.1 in Auckland at that time was $1,295.00 + GST so I guess
>my copy at $50.00 was a great price?
>
>
>David Lawrence
>katana@clear.net.nz
>
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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:40:17 -0800
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I'd like a copy of Windows 1.03 and Word 2.0 - and, whether abandonware or
not, I'm a registered user of both (with Microsoft), I threw out my
diskettes a couple of years ago, before I realized they would run on the LX!

At 11:01 AM 1/17/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I have some older programs that I received with older computers,
>Windows 1.03
>Rest of programs tested on win3.1
>Adobe Type Manager (2 disk)
>MsWord 2.0 (I believe) (7 disk)
>MsExcel around 2.0 I think (5 disk)
>MsPublisher (3 disk)
>MsPowerPoint (7 disk)
>The New Print Shop (3 disk)
>
>I got all of these around 1992 and now consider them abandonware so if
>anyone wants one email me
>If these aren't considered abandonware the email me and I'll promptly
>withdraw my offer to email any of
>these programs
>
>    -James
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I teach AutoCAD at the high school and at the community college.   I am going
to use it to keep quick info on students and the program.   That way I have
segregated my students and the program from my "life".   It would  be  quicker
this way.  I am still learning the program, too.   I have had it for years but
never used it (not sure why!) but discovered the version I had would work on
my trusty HPLX.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:54:20 -0500
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Peter,
    I've used IS for many years.  While I have tried several times to use it
with other information programs, I always came back to IS to store info.  It
is hard to beat for retrieving notes.  I still use 2.0 on a LX200 with 3.0
under Win95 on a desktop.  I use the HP calendar program for appointments.
The drawback to IS (2.0 at least) if you need to output the information in a
sorted or orderly fashion.  It can be done but it takes more planning and
effort when first entering.  My only effort at separating data was to have
several IS databases such as work, home or a particular project.

Good Luck,

Ron Beckley
Gloucester,MA
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Subject: Info Select


>Hello, I'd be interested in learning how users of Info Select for DOS on
>the HP200LX tend to use it in combination with the existing features on
>the HP such as Notetaker, database etc.
>
>I've just installed Info Select on the HP200LX and am learning its
>features.
>
>I think what makes sense is to use Info Select to throw in random data
>on the run, then later organise it within Info Select, then later when
>time allows, use the HP Notetaker, phonebook and database to "hold" the
>information in a structured way.
>
>However, I realise that doing that kind of defeats the object of having
>Info Select in that you can't "instantly" retrieve all slugs of
>information based on a key word(s) from the HP's built - in applications
>like you can in Info Select.
>
>I'm sure that Info Select AND the HP200LX built - in applications
>probably complement each other and can be used in parallel.
>
>OR............. would I be better advised transferring all the data I
>have in the HP200LX applications into Info Select and ditching the HP
>built - in applications totally? In other words, is it best just to rely
>on Info Select TOTALLY for all your information management needs,
>perhaps just using the diary function on the HP which to my mind, is
>better for appointment setting and "to - do" management than Info
>Select?
>
>Any views based on your experiences?
>
>
>Dr Peter Maddern
>Product Developer
>North Wales, UK.
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Subject:      Re: ---=== HP200LX DRAM memory chips (is a 32MB HP200LX possible
              ?)
In-Reply-To:  <3.0.3.32.19980117170244.006b9468@pop.vlc.servicom.es> from
              "Ignacio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_P=E9rez?=" at
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> 1- 2MB onboard + 8MB = 10MB(one 4Mx16 chip)
> 2- 2MB onboard + 16MB = 18MB (two 4M x 16 chips)
> 3- 2MB onboard + 24MB = 26MB (three 4M x 16 chips, in case they fit)

> ANY comments, suggestions, or hints are welcome.
COOL!

How much do the memory chips themselves cost (around about)?


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Results of flash card speed checks.

Machine:  HP200LX, Times2Tech speed & memory upgrade.

Proceedure:
     @echo off
     copy d:\_sys\c123us.hlp a:\test.dat
     echo.|time
     copy a:test.dat a:test2.dat
      <repeat to 10 reps, get time & delete>

      Also, for stacked cards, I copied the hlp file to C:, and from there to
A:, for comparison.

Results:

1. HP F1003A 512K SRAM - 5 sec
2. HP F1013A 10 M Linear Flash - 26 sec
3. PNY P-CF008-PA 8M ATA Flash - 10 sec
4. Viking 9610333-02 4M ATA Flash; Stacker 4.0 - 78 sec
5.  Eiger ACF-AT 15M ATA Flash; Stacker 4.0 - 77 sec

4.a. Viking, but only write through Stacker - 21 sec
5.a. Eiger, but only write through Stacker - 28 sec

I'm not sure what it all means, but it is interesting.

lynn m. cavendish

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>Hello, I'd be interested in learning how users of Info Select for DOS on
>the HP200LX tend to use it in combination with the existing features on
>the HP such as Notetaker, database etc.


I have been using InfoSelect for several years on the HP.

I use the built-in apps for their intended purpose - phone book, and
appointments. I use MEMO for meeting notes, and the database to store
information on web sites, restaurants, and other topics for which I can
easily define fields and a structure..

IS is great for unstructured, randomly generated information. Within IS I
have created databases for each month, a general TODO, and various
subject-sepcific topics.

I enter phone messages, things to do, reminders, etc into the TODO file. As
I complete them, I copy them to the monthly file and sometimes also to a
subject specific file (*.wd). In that way I have a record of what I did for
periodic reviews of work accomplishments, etc, as well as lots of
information about specific issues, topics, vendors.

Under the DOS version of IS there are limits on the size of the database
files, so you almost have to create a number of them. The program is very
quick at switching among the database files, so having a few or a lot really
doesn't affect performance.

Using the import/export functions of IS, I sometimes export information to
be used in meeting notes, a memo, or from those back into IS.

I keep IS running at all times, and shift between it and the built-ins using
the blue keys. The CTL/Lotus 123 key moves you to any DOS app that is
running, while the others move you to the built-ins.

I have found IS in combination with the built-in functions to be a powerful
combination.

One note of caution - make sure you back up information regularly. I have
never had a crash, or any problem, but you create a storehouse of
information that is too important to lose! (This isn't only important to IS
users, of course.)

I'd be interested in hearing from other IS users on their particular uses
for the program, and any tricks on combining them with the built-in programs.

Alan

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Is there a simple utility out there that enables one to turn the
LX screen off*, thus improving performance.

Believe it or not, I'm doing what amounts to number crunching on my hp200lx...



This question was buried in another post; I'm reposting for clarity. :)
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On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Claud G. Cameron <cameronc@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

ca> Can you point me in the correct direction to find SETVER?  I think =
it's
ca> needed to get Excel 2.1 to run (I keep getting an incorrect DOS =
version
ca> error).  Could you give a brief description of files required and =
what else
ca> you might have to do to get it to run?

Claud i run win 3.0 w/excel 2.1 and setver is nowhere on my 200lx!
Please write to me directly (off the list) and we can discuss which
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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 19:20:49 -0500
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Dear James Hall said:
|
|I have some older programs that I received with older computers,
|Windows 1.03
|Rest of programs tested on win3.1
|Adobe Type Manager (2 disk)
|MsWord 2.0 (I believe) (7 disk)
|MsExcel around 2.0 I think (5 disk)
|MsPublisher (3 disk)
|MsPowerPoint (7 disk)
|The New Print Shop (3 disk)
|
Hi,

Can you send me these abandonware, or give me an address so I can
download? Thanks a lot.

|I got all of these around 1992 and now consider them abandonware so if
|anyone wants one email me
|If these aren't considered abandonware the email me and I'll promptly
|withdraw my offer to email any of
|these programs
|
|    -James
|
Cheers,

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:55:23 -0600
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Here are my timings for two different flash cards.
I have a 2x speed HP200. Averages of 4 trials.


OLD IBM 10MB card "Thinkpad file" "Sundisk"    - 25.5 seconds
PNY compact flash 4MB card                             -  6.3 seconds
C: drive on palmtop                                            -  3.5
seconds

Note how slow the old IBM card was! BTW, holding down the CTL key
made no difference on the 10MB card. I really had no idea that the
10MB card that I use every day was so slow. I think that it is just the
write operation that is pokey.
-Bryan

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On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> Is there a simple utility out there that enables one to turn the
> LX screen off*, thus improving performance.
>

Well, the source for the turn on and off functions is in the LXMIDI
source-code. The functions are called _displayon and _displayoff

I'll play a little with them and see if I can get them to work. Or someone
else could do it (hint hint ;-)

Actually this along with maxcpu.com (from turbo.zip) should give a nice
speed increase. maxcpu.com gives screen flicker, but that doesn't really
matter since the display is turned off anyway.

Regards,

Laust
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> > Is there a simple utility out there that enables one to turn the
> > LX screen off*, thus improving performance.
>
> Well, the source for the turn on and off functions is in the LXMIDI
> source-code. The functions are called _displayon and _displayoff

Well, that's very sensible! I forgot that having the source meant I
could see how it was done. BTW I'm very impressed with LXMIDI, all round.

> I'll play a little with them and see if I can get them to work. Or someone
> else could do it (hint hint ;-)
I'll get the source again and check it. Thanks! Assuming it's C, I should
be able to rip it off...

> Actually this along with maxcpu.com (from turbo.zip) should give a nice
> speed increase. maxcpu.com gives screen flicker,
Someone said one (of the three?) versions doesn't give flicker?


> but that doesn't really matter since the display is turned off anyway.
:)


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Date:         Sun, 18 Jan 1998 13:34:07 +1100
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I hate to admit this, but I've been looking aver the competition.
And I reckon that the Libretto 70 (120MHz MMX Pentium) is probably
about 100 times faster than our hplx's. Not just the clockspeed, but
the caching, bus width etc etc. CPU's *have* improved in a decade. :)


However, they say that battery life (with an `enhanced' battery pack)
is around 4 hours. And I bet that this 4 hours is not 4 hours worth
of compiling; but 4 hours of `typical use' - half typing, half thinking
etc.

Even the other specs sound very impressive, this amount of battery
hassle is not really worth it. Anybody have any ideas about the true
battery life; or of a worthy successor?


There is the IBM PC110 as well, of course; but I think it has become
abandonehardware, like our hp95|100|200lx's; whereas a new version
of the Libretto seems to be announced every few months!

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Date:         Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:48:03 -0800
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I keep seeing the term "TWAIN compliant" but I don't know what it
means.  Would someone please provide a description.  Is TWAIN a single
standard?  Thanks.  Here's to fast data transfers.

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LXMIDI display on-off for speed increase
----------------------------------------

> I'll play a little with them and see if I can get them to work. Or someone
> else could do it (hint hint ;-)

I just had a look (as promised): they are assembly, quite short, 88
lines including some blank lines etc.

But, er, I also found this in the .doc:

        No part of the attached source code shall be used for other
        software without permission from the author.   Distribution
        of this software which are modified from the original is
        not permitted unless allowed by the author.

The routines in question are quite a small utility-type thing (not the
core of a playing midi files); but would not have been trivial
to write; and fall squarely within the above prohibition. Therefore, I will
write the author.

Unfortunately, I have tried this several times (to thank him for the
great program - in many ways)  but some incompatibility garbled
his replies.    :(      But I'll try again :)

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At 09:00 18/01/98 +1100, you wrote:
>> 1- 2MB onboard + 8MB = 10MB(one 4Mx16 chip)
>> 2- 2MB onboard + 16MB = 18MB (two 4M x 16 chips)
>> 3- 2MB onboard + 24MB = 26MB (three 4M x 16 chips, in case they fit)
>
>> ANY comments, suggestions, or hints are welcome.
>COOL!
>How much do the memory chips themselves cost (around about)?

No idea. I'll start checking dealers next week, but think it will be much
more easy to get the chips from a memory upgrade for a portable computer.
These upgrades, use to be 3.3V parts, and use low power TSOP-packaged chips
(for space saving), which is required in the HP200LX. All you have to do is
find a memory upgrade that uses the 4Mx16 DRAM chips. I guess 32MB and
larger modules must actually use them.

Regards. Nacho.

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At 20:55 17/01/98 GMT, you wrote:
>> This would definitely not be for beginners, but just imagine having a 32MB
>> HP200LX. Isn't it worth the work ?.
>
> Nacho,
>
> Terra Network Systems in Japan mention a 32MB upgrade at their site:
>
> http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~tns/tnshp16.html

Wow, I've been visiting a lot of sites in Japan. #@@|#%& !!!, they're all
in japanese only.

All I could guess from the pictures is:

1- The upgrades use 4MBx16 64MB DRAM (guessed from the number of chips and
package size and type).

2- The 32MB upgrade require main board memory to be removed, just as I had
figured out.

3- The 32MB upgrade requires soldering of four wires. Just as I expected.
Address lines
A10 and A11, and the two RAS lines missing in the expansion connector.

4- The 32MB upgrade has two chips on each side of the board. I think this
makes the board slightly too thick.

5- And the BAD news: apart from the DRAM chips, there are two more chips on
the daughterboard. No idea of what parts they are nor their function, but
you can be sure that if they're there they're needed. I expected to need
nothing else but the DRAM chips.

I planned to get the memory chips probably from a notebook memory upgrade
(as I mention in another message, those use to be 3.3V, low power, TSOP(II)
package), but they're not as cheap as to just buy one without being
reasonably sure that the upgrade will work.

By the way, another matter is the PCB. I've build extremely tiny-tracked
PCBs at my company, but think that this one is out of my reach. Maybe
wire-wrapping everything..., or modifying a 4MB memory upgrade board (this
would provide space for 'only' two chips, a total of 18MB). I've checked
the pinouts of the parts and some modifications will be required, but it'll
be always easier that wire-wrapping everything.

> So, it can be done!

This means, at least, that the A11 and A10 lines are available.

> Would be great. All that memory! Would free up the card slot!
> Unlimited EMM (well up to about 9MB for Software Carousel<G>).

I would be glad with just 8MB of EMM memory and all the rest for disk space ;)

Regards. Nacho.

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Chris England wrote:
>
> I keep seeing the term "TWAIN compliant" but I don't know what it
> means.  Would someone please provide a description.  Is TWAIN a single
> standard?  Thanks.  Here's to fast data transfers.
>

It's a scanning and imaging standard to ensure that applications
can talk to your scanning hardware.  There's a web site (of course.)
  http://www.twain.org

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Mobile Computing Magazine recently tested the Libretto and found battery
life at 1.2 hours.  Even if you round and say "Two Hours"... that's not
very much.  (2) It's bigger than our 200LX's and you can't put in your
pocket.

Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> However, they say that battery life (with an `enhanced' battery pack)
> is around 4 hours. And I bet that this 4 hours is not 4 hours worth
> of compiling; but 4 hours of `typical use' - half typing, half thinking

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I got alot of responses asking for my abandonware so I'll try to put a web
site up real soon now with all the files and a simple, graphic free page for
downloading. I'll post the site address here when it's done (it'll take me a
while to upload the proggies, several megs take a while-even on a 56k)

Also can anyone tell me if there's a web site that archives electronic
copies of old magazines (Byte, Computer Shopper, Pc/Computing, etc...
1980-1994) or if any such thing exists?

Also I encourage anyone who can attend the Dayton Hamvention
(www.hamvention.org) to do so... They have PLENTY of old computer
stuff-hardware&software in their flea market (plus they have ham radio stuff
:P)
(I'm in no way affiliated with this organization, it's just the biggest ham
fest I know of and I really get a kick out of going to it :P)

Also I may have some new programs soon as I only poked around in some of my
older disks to see what I had.

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James Hall wrote:
>
> I got alot of responses asking for my abandonware so I'll try to put a web
> site up real soon now with all the files and a simple, graphic free page for
> downloading.

James,

        You are a saint! Thanks.

Colin

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James,
Keep us posted. I surely have something I can contribute. Others will too.

Dennis

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Could anyone suggest a web page hosting service (like geocities or tripod)
with more than 2 or 3mb space?
I haven't had any luck finding one that can hold all of the programs (or for
one or two (@7 disks) an entire program)
I'm reluctant to put them on my account at my isp in case they 'look-down'
upon abandonware so I'm stuck.

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While we're on the subject, try this out for size: I think the maximum internal
RAM the 200LX could take would be 128MB.  I doubt the chips are small enough to
fit into the 200LX, though.  Just imagine the battery life a 128MB 200LX would
get... :-)

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>
> maximum internal RAM the 200LX could take would be 128MB.  I doubt
> the chips are small enough to fit into the 200LX, though.  Just
> imagine the battery life a 128MB 200LX would get... :-)

I'm wondering what the battery drain from memory actually is - if it
is just to refresh them, the drain is probably unnoticeable.

I've a 4MB hp200lx, and the battery life seems pretty good to me! But
I can't compare, of course - have those with upgrade perceived any
difference?



Of course, what is imperceptable at 4MB may be overwhelming when
increased by a factor of 32!

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At 01:09 AM 1/18/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Could anyone suggest a web page hosting service (like geocities or tripod)
>with more than 2 or 3mb space?
>I haven't had any luck finding one that can hold all of the programs (or for
>one or two (@7 disks) an entire program)
>I'm reluctant to put them on my account at my isp in case they 'look-down'
>upon abandonware so I'm stuck.

I can't think of any good free-hosting sites.  But if you'd like,
I'll donate my 5M web space on www.caspers.net.  They don't mind anything
except
smut and real pirated software, according to their TOS.  And if they do mind,
they give you a warning first.  You'd have to send stuff to me tho because
there
is no anonymous FTP access.


Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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Is there anybody on this list that actually has a backlight (a real
backlight, inside the machine) on their 200LX, in any form?

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TWAIN stands for technology without an interesting name (no kidding!). It
is the standard used(?) by most scanner

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> Date: Sunday, January 18, 1998 10:48 AM
>
> I keep seeing the term "TWAIN compliant" but I don't know what it
> means.  Would someone please provide a description.  Is TWAIN a single
> standard?  Thanks.  Here's to fast data transfers.
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On 1998-01-17 cameronc@ix.netcom.com said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >How did you get it to run?  Mine comes up with a wrong DOS version
   >error. Would you mind giving me some pointers to help get mine up
   >and running?

OK, little dos tutorial needed here. Excel is looking to see a
Dos of it's era, 1987/1988 and the dos in the palmtop (5.0) is
later than the 3.3/4.0 i is happy wit, so we fool it with
setver.exe, courtesy of dos 5.0

Unfortunately, as HP slimmed the Rom Dos on the palmtop to
minimize disk space used and maximize user space, they left out
the lesser-used commands, setver among them. So we have to find
it on a full install of dos 5.0 or the install disks.

Setver loads into memory via the config.sys and provides a table
of programs and dos versions reported to the. It is actually not
too hard to manipulate this table, removing the programs we will
never use and thereby releasing more dos environment space.

Setver will enable you to run Excel, but when running, you won't
be able to turn the machine off or have it time-out after 3
minutes! You need sleepon.zip which expanded reveals sleepon.com,
by Stefan Peichl. This freeware hooks the keyboard back to you. I
run sleepon in a batchfile to load it first, before
Excel/Word/Windows and make sure it unloads directly after, as it
has a side-effect that can cause grief. It allows one to shut the
machine off almost instantly, so it can interfere with
disk-writes if you press Off while the palmtop is saving a file.


David Lawrence
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On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> Unfortunately, I have tried this several times (to thank him for the
> great program - in many ways)  but some incompatibility garbled
> his replies.    :(      But I'll try again :)

AFAIK, the author doesn't understand English - the documentation
itself is is translated. Perhaps your best bet would be to contact the
translator?
This could also explain garbled replies, if they were in Japanese.

The translator's e-mail address can be found at the bottom of the
documentation.

Regards,

Laust
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On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > Actually this along with maxcpu.com (from turbo.zip) should give a nice
> > speed increase. maxcpu.com gives screen flicker,
> Someone said one (of the three?) versions doesn't give flicker?

turbo.com gives a modest speedincrease, with no apparent side-effects
(except alarm-sounds in the SysMgr are played faster). maxcpu.com gives
the highest increase, but with several annoying side-effects: sluggish
keyboard response, screen flicker, and it messes with the
clock/system timer.
Anyhow, I made the small utility to turn off and on the display (no
requests, please - see Brendan's other post). With everything set to max,
that is maxcpu loaded, lite sleep disabled, and the screen turned off I
get  ~23% speed increase over a stock LX!
This was just a preliminary test, though. I'll have to do a few more.

Regards,

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At 22:30 17/01/98 -0800, you wrote:
>While we're on the subject, try this out for size: I think the maximum
internal
>RAM the 200LX could take would be 128MB.  I doubt the chips are small
enough to
>fit into the 200LX, though.

As far as I know, 256Mbit DRAMs have been already achieved (by Samsung, I
believe). Although I haven't seen a datasheet yet, I'm pretty sure that the
package will be the same than for 64Mbit DRAMs. If four 64Mbit DRAMs fit
into the HP200LX, 256MBit will too.

>Just imagine the battery life a 128MB 200LX would
>get... :-)

It's not so much. Actually, according to datasheets, power consumtion of
64Mbit DRAMs is about 100mA (maximum) active and 500uA (maximum) in
stand-by mode. Increasing the number of DRAM chips will only increase
noticeably stand-by power consumption, but active power will almost be the
same, because just one chip can be active at the same time.

Of course, 256Mbit DRAMs will be more power-hungry, but not four times
more, just a bit more (the CMOS process is smaller, and power consumption
per cell decreases, so, though there are four times more cells, each one
consumes less).

Regards. Nacho.

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Samsung and Toshiba each make 256Mbyte flash/DRAM chips in commercial
production quantities and will soon ship the 1Gbyte chip.

FYI, I am selling the new Viking PC/CF cards that use the 256Mbyte chips.
The 32Mb card
is $269 and the 45Mb card (avbl 30Jan) is
$335. The card will work in any HP Palmtop
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>At 22:30 17/01/98 -0800, you wrote:
>>While we're on the subject, try this out for size: I think the maximum
>internal
>>RAM the 200LX could take would be 128MB.  I doubt the chips are small
>enough to
>>fit into the 200LX, though.
>
>As far as I know, 256Mbit DRAMs have been already achieved (by Samsung, =
I
>believe). Although I haven't seen a datasheet yet, I'm pretty sure that =
the
>package will be the same than for 64Mbit DRAMs. If four 64Mbit DRAMs fit
>into the HP200LX, 256MBit will too.
>
>>Just imagine the battery life a 128MB 200LX would
>>get... :-)
>
>It's not so much. Actually, according to datasheets, power consumtion of
>64Mbit DRAMs is about 100mA (maximum) active and 500uA (maximum) in
>stand-by mode. Increasing the number of DRAM chips will only increase
>noticeably stand-by power consumption, but active power will almost be t=
he
>same, because just one chip can be active at the same time.
>
>Of course, 256Mbit DRAMs will be more power-hungry, but not four times
>more, just a bit more (the CMOS process is smaller, and power consumptio=
n
>per cell decreases, so, though there are four times more cells, each one
>consumes less).
>
>Regards. Nacho.
>
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Thanks everyone. see you later.

HS

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Hi, all,

On Sun, 18 Jan 1998 13:05:30 +0100
Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@diku.dk> wrote:

> AFAIK, the author doesn't understand English - the documentation
> itself is is translated. Perhaps your best bet would be to contact the
> translator?
> This could also explain garbled replies, if they were in Japanese.
>
> The translator's e-mail address can be found at the bottom of the
> documentation.

No need to send a message.  I am the one who translated the documentation.

I have just become aware of this thread. I will check with the author of
LXMIDI, Haruya,  as soon as possible.

Regards,

Toshiki Sasabe
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Thanks for the comments on TWAIN.  I thought it might be Elmer Fudd's
website.

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>I have been using InfoSelect for several years on the HP.
>
>IS is great for unstructured, randomly generated information. Within IS I
>have created databases for each month, a general TODO, and various
>subject-sepcific topics.

I am not familiar with Info Select but for years now, I have been using the
free text retrieval program asksam for DOS (version 5.11). Right now I'm using
it on my 200lx. It's great for jotting down and retrieving unstructured
information, but has relational, hypertext capabilities as well. It takes up no
more than 250 K in minimal configuration (135 K when dieted) and is real fast.

>Under the DOS version of IS there are limits on the size of the database
>files, so you almost have to create a number of them. The program is very
>quick at switching among the database files, so having a few or a lot really
>doesn't affect performance.

Records in askSam are 20 lines but can be combined to documents that are
unlimited in askSam, so are files (maximum 4 Gigabyte, no typing error). Files
can be linked by hyperlinks and multiple files searched simultaneously. Fields
are facultative, basically unlimited and can be defined contextually, even, if
need be, added "a posteriori".

>Using the import/export functions of IS, I sometimes export information to
>be used in meeting notes, a memo, or from those back into IS.

AskSam outputs data in ASCII. Comma delimited or fixed position output is
possible too, bur requires some - rather simple - programming in askSam's own
command language (contextual online help available). AskSam provides some basic
computing of numeric data and rather extensive boolean, vicinity and truncated
searches.

Using the import utility, askSam can read comma delimited or fixed position
files into a user defined template. Ascii files can be incorporated on the fly,
with or without record delimiters. All files can be indexed by fields and/or by
individual words, to speed up performance.

Information about this DOS program is available at www.asksam.com.

Hope this is useful to someone out there.

Regards

Frank



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While we are doing speed tests on different memory cards, has anyone
tested
relative speeds of Stacker vs. DoubleSpace?

I hear stacker discussed all the time and have been running it
flawlessly on a
10 meg (stacked to 20) Acecard, and on a PCMCIA 170 meg hard disk.

Recently I bought a PC110 (love it) running dos and windows 95. While
looking
to stack the 340 Meg pcmcia hard drive, I discovered that DoubleSpace is
supported
by Win95, while Stacker is not.

The methods of both seem identical. A huge file (volume) that becomes a
virtual
(logical) disk.

In the interest of compatibility, I may prefer to run DoubleSpace only.

Are speeds and compressability equivalent?

How about dependability?

Has anyone had good or bad experiences with either?

That then got me to wondering why I hadn't stacked my HP200 C: drive.
After MUCH
trial and error, I got it Stacked. Sure enough, almost 5 Megs free.

But the speed dropped back to where it had been prior to my X2 speed
upgrade.

I think I will unstack C: in favor of the speed. 32 Megs on C: with the
speed would be nice though!!

Meanwhile, I would like seldom used, but many of them, files on A: to be
compressed.

Thanks for any recommendations on which scheme to use.

Bob

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In a message dated 98-01-17 16:27:16 EST, you write:

<<
 >I've used it for almost a year now with no side effects, crashes, etc.  The
 >only detriment is that alarms in appt are played faster.

There's a TSR to fix that. It should have come with the driver disks. I didnt
use it 'cause I like the fast alarms :)...


 At 05:10 PM 1/17/98 +1100, you wrote:
 >> http://eddie.mit.edu/ftp/pub/hp95lx/unknown/turbo.zip
 >>
 >> It is the program that speeds up the normal LX some 7% (although it feels
 >> like more :-).
 >
 >
 >> how often the processor halts execution to refresh the RAM
 >Do yu know why HP designed it to be halting more often than it needs to?
 >Is it just another example of HP over-engineering, and the turbo program
 >is pushing the envelop? (just as the 2x crystal does...)
 >
 >
 >> further speedup, however, by disabling the screen - with obvious
 >> side effects :-)
 >The LXMIDI program does this; but how can I do it?
 >Is there a simple program I can call from a .bat file?
 >
 >> And if you get the above program you can have a small, but painless speed
 >> upgrade :-)
 >I think I should do it...
 >
 >
 >--
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> AFAIK, the author doesn't understand English - the documentation
> itself is is translated. Perhaps your best bet would be to contact the
> translator?
> This could also explain garbled replies, if they were in Japanese.
Yes; but they are also garbled in that something can't be executed...

> The translator's e-mail address can be found at the bottom of the
> documentation.
I hadn't noticed! Great idea! Done!


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     Hi!
     Please never trough out software. New does not always equate to
     better, I am using Windows NT 4.0 and would like to have PCDOS 7.0 and
     Novel netware instead but .........


     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-cameronc (cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    1/17/98 2:40 PM


I'd like a copy of Windows 1.03 and Word 2.0 - and, whether abandonware or
not, I'm a registered user of both (with Microsoft), I threw out my
diskettes a couple of years ago, before I realized they would run on the LX!

At 11:01 AM 1/17/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I have some older programs that I received with older computers,
>Windows 1.03
>Rest of programs tested on win3.1
>Adobe Type Manager (2 disk)
>MsWord 2.0 (I believe) (7 disk)
>MsExcel around 2.0 I think (5 disk)
>MsPublisher (3 disk)
>MsPowerPoint (7 disk)
>The New Print Shop (3 disk)
>
>I got all of these around 1992 and now consider them abandonware so if
>anyone wants one email me
>If these aren't considered abandonware the email me and I'll promptly
>withdraw my offer to email any of
>these programs
>
>    -James
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> maxcpu.com gives
> the highest increase, but with several annoying side-effects: sluggish
> keyboard response, screen flicker, and it messes with the
> clock/system timer.
> Anyhow, I made the small utility to turn off and on the display

> that is maxcpu loaded,
> lite sleep disabled,
What's this?

> and the screen turned off I
> get  ~23% speed increase over a stock LX!

Well done!

23% is pretty cool!
That's equivalent to taking a 200MHz Pentium to 246MHz!!


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On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > maxcpu.com gives
> > the highest increase, but with several annoying side-effects: sluggish
> > keyboard response, screen flicker, and it messes with the
> > clock/system timer.
> > Anyhow, I made the small utility to turn off and on the display
>
> > that is maxcpu loaded,
> > lite sleep disabled,
> What's this?

That is "resting bewteen keystrokes". What it means is that when you're
not typing it will lower the amount of work the CPU does and thus conserve
power. I don't know how it "rests" either it checks whether you are typing
or it checks whether the current program is polling the keyboard (if it
is, it is idle, if it is not it is hard at work). The latter is what
Desqview does, and it seems to make most sense - for well behaved programs
aynway.
But as I said, I'm not sure what it does, only that disabling it will use
more power and in some cases make the LX run faster :-)
I believe it is always running in fast mode when an AC adapter is used.
This was what the 95LX did.

> > and the screen turned off I
> > get  ~23% speed increase over a stock LX!
>
> Well done!
>
> 23% is pretty cool!
> That's equivalent to taking a 200MHz Pentium to 246MHz!!
:-)

Incidentally, this figure might not be correct. I did it with a stopwatch
since the timer was acting up - maxcpu's fault.

Looks like I'll have to install BYTE's good ol' benchmarking program.


Regards,

Laust
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David Lawrence asked:
>Anybody out there know how to get these early versions of windows
>to see/read/use truetype fonts???
>David Lawrence
>katana@clear.net.nz
>
>Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
Sorry - you can't. True Type support is in the Graphics.exe (.dll? - I
forget) of Win 3.1. You could use the early 3rd party font support
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From:         Jonathan R Barrett <jonzann@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Various Abandonware Site

>
>Date:    Sat, 17 Jan 1998 23:46:18 -0500
>From:    James Hall <jrhall@INFOCOM.COM>
>Subject: Various Abandonware Site
>
*****
>Also can anyone tell me if there's a web site that archives electronic
>copies of old magazines (Byte, Computer Shopper, Pc/Computing, etc...
>1980-1994) or if any such thing exists?
>

Ziff-Davis has a (subscription - like US$6-10 / month - I forget the
details) site with back issues of a number of magazines, not limited to
theirs, depending on how far back you want to go. Try prowling around
http://www.ziffdavis.com. I ran across it, but never joined up since I
get the ones I care about on CD-ROM. You could also try the individual
magazines, although it's harder to do a full text search on all of them
individually than it would be collectively. Don't expect them to go too
far back, though.

Byte, SysAdmin, PC Mag, Dr. Dobbs, Software Development, MSJ, CUJ are
ones I know are on their own CD-ROM. Info Select charges US$1250 for the
past year of about 100-150 magazines articles or abstracts on CD-ROM,
also hardware & software product listings. Byte & HP Journal are two I
know have on-line complete back issues. Many of the other good ones have
at least the columns on line. Nobody else can match the National
Geographic full magazine since birth (including ads) CD-ROM though.

Jon Barrett
jbarrett@rurdev.usda.gov / jonzann@juno.com
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Date:         Sun, 18 Jan 1998 21:12:12 -0500
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              Jonathan R Barrett <jonzann@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: help delete bogus file

>
>From:    "Tim S." <pacific@CASTLES.COM>
>Subject: Re: help delete bogus file
>
>>
>> > Have you tried deleting it from the built-in file-manager, "Filer"?
>> It is my expirence that file managers generally have better luck
deleting
>> wierd named files. Something to do with command-line parsing, I guess.
>>
>> I would think you would have more control and power in deleting a
bogus
>> file directly from DOS. The System Manager or Filer in this case, acts
as
>a
>> middle man (like Windows) with much too much control over file
>>manipulation
>> (ie. Deleting).
>> =================================================
>
>
>Well, after all the help.  The only thing that worked was backing up the
c
>drive and reinitializing it after the hard reset.
>
>Thanks for everyone's help.
>
>-Tim
>

Has anyone tried early versions of Norton on the 200? NU, later DiskEdit,
should let you mess with the file names. Maybe I'll load MASM and re-key
the sample program from Peter Norton's Assembly Language Book, or
whatever it's called (the two-guys book).

Jon Barrett
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Date:         Sun, 18 Jan 1998 22:07:49 -0500
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              Ian Butler <ianrb@CASPERS.NET>
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Well I hate to start another operating system thread but I've found
one you guys might like, for your big computer and the palmtop.  From
what I've seen several members of this list liked DR-DOS (Novell DOS)
when it was being sold.  So you'd probably like DR-OpenDOS.  It comes
with a host of utilities, including

                        ---->> STACKER 3.12 <<----

and some good file transfer software, along with

                        ---->> PERSONAL NETWARE <<----

From what I can figure out, Caldera bought it from Novell.  They
distribute it free for personal and educational use, and they have
the kernel source available as well.

I dunno, but I've been happy for it.  I'm not affiliated with Caldera,
by the way, just a happy user.  Maybe it was because I switched to it
after a nearly fatal encounter with Windows 95, but I don't think so.

Have a good one,
Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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After reading all the latest talk about turbo.com, I downloaded it and
installed it one my 200LX. It seems to work great and does seem to speed
things up a bit. Now I'm wondering if this will program will shorten
battery life on the palmtop? Does anyone have any comments?


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
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    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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Comments: To: Jonathan R Barrett <jonzann@JUNO.COM>

Jon,

Perhaps you are thinking of GDI.EXE?

(The core components of Windows are KERNEL, USER, and GDI.)

- Joe

Joseph S. Barrera III <joebar@acm.org>
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588-4801
The opinions expressed in this message are my own personal views.

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        Subject:        Re: Excel/Word/Windows 2.0

        ...
        Sorry - you can't. True Type support is in the Graphics.exe (.dll? -
I
        forget) of Win 3.1. You could use the early 3rd party font support
        programs from e.g. Bitstream or Adobe.

        Jon Barrett
        jbarrett@rurdev.usda.gov / jonzann@juno.com
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Comments: cc: bobv@SOS.NET

On 1998-01-18 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
<Snip>
   >relative speeds of Stacker vs. DoubleSpace?
   >I hear stacker discussed all the time and have been running it
<Snip>
   >DoubleSpace is supported
   >by Win95, while Stacker is not.
<Snip>
   >I think I will unstack C: in favor of the speed. 32 Megs on C: with
   >the speed would be nice though!!
   >Meanwhile, I would like seldom used, but many of them, files on A:
<Snip>

Sorry to say, DriveSpace and DoubleSpace will not work on the
palmtop, as you have to be running MS-Dos 6.0 and the palmtop
boots to a command environment burned into rom, of Dos 5.0 and
to my knowledge, nobody has figured (bothered?) a work-around.


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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I am not aware of any normal keyboard to be adapted through a PS2 to the
LX. I have read however an article in Mobilis (forgot the www address)
about a Korean IRDA keyboard as a second option beyond the Newton.
Probably it is unavailable on the US market.

Further to this, I have been looking at a Newton for awhile.  How have they been performing for those that are using them.  Any drawbacks?
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At 04:38 PM 1/19/98 +1300, you wrote:
>On 1998-01-18 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
>Sorry to say, DriveSpace and DoubleSpace will not work on the
>palmtop, as you have to be running MS-Dos 6.0 and the palmtop
>boots to a command environment burned into rom, of Dos 5.0 and
>to my knowledge, nobody has figured (bothered?) a work-around.

Setver?  It's worth a shot.

I don't know about you, but I'd _much_ rather be running Stacker than
DxxxSpace.  In fact, I am running Stacker instead of DxxxSpace.  I thought
it was pretty funny when DoubleSpace was first released and they didn't
trap all the drive interrupts, so stuff got corrupted quickly and easily.
Typical software company, release stuff before it's ready, but that was
too soon.  Oh well....

Seagate says, "We're going to release a 100G, 3.5"  hard drive.
The only problem is, we don't have servo voice coils that are that accurate,
so we'll have to skip that.  You'll have to move the heads yourself if you
want something." ;)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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              stan.alexander@USA.NET
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Thank you for reviving this listserve!  I have used an HP100LX for five years.

My problem:  For years I've run the APPS100 on a Toshiba laptop and more recently on a new DELL Dimension XPS with no problem.  After adding a few programs (and deciding to uninstall some others) I can't get the APPS100 to load either within a DOS shell or even when rebooted in the DOS mode on my new DELL.  (It was working fine two weeks ago.

Windows reports this error:  "This program tried to execute an invalid instruction.  Fault location 0020:6C6A  Interrupts in service:  None"

Any thoughts about what went wrong and how to fix it?

Thanks in advance.
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Yes, if you would send the programs, I would appreciate it.  I threw out my
diskettes a couple of years ago!  I'm registered for all of these, on both
IBM and Mac sides, since the days of the 512K Macs and IBM XTs, so I am a
legitimate user.  Now, if I could just get a good e-mail program for the LX
to run, ...

At , you wrote:
>On Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:14:54, you wrote:
>>
>> Would you have any ideas of where a person might find an old version?
>> What version do you recommend running on the LX?
>
>Look no further,
>
>I can send you all three programs ready to run on your palmtop.
>Thats Windows 3.0, Word, and excel.
>
>Just send me a reply to:
>qman@earthlink.net
>
>note this is a private mailing.
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>   ____
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> / / / / / __ `__ \/ __ `/ __ \
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>hp 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.
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Try
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn/
Al
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Date:         Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:37:08 +0000
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Hello All,

I am grateful for the response to my query on 40Mb flashcards and
regret the delay in acknowledgement being "on line" usually only 3
days per week :( .

On Wed, 14 Jan 1998 Longden Loo queried my tentative selection of a
Simple Technology flashcard:-

> Was this choice based on any experience or facts related to power
> draw and performance that you can share with us?  I'm interested in
> a 40Mb card too.

On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Longden rightly pointed out his concerns over the
selection criteria, his comments being worth repeating:-

> Many of us who have flash cards that have been relatively
> trouble-free feel they perform well, but this is a subjective thing. How do we know
> that a card is 1) not drawing a lot of power relative to another
> card 2) is faster or slower than someone else's card.

> Unless someone does a lot of legwork to contact each vendor and get
> technical specs (power draw, access speeds) I don't see how our
> selection could ever be anything other than by word of mouth (ie
> experience)...then we end up choosing a card based on its proven
> reliability and compatibility since we lack a common benchmark for
> performance and power consumption....but we may end up with a card
> that performs poorly compared to the one we're replacing.

I could not agree more and just wish that the specifications as
mentioned above were readily available.  From memory (forgive the
pun), I have only seen two sets of technical specifications in print
and they related to cards which are outside the price range that
others in our group would entertain (eg. Sandisk).  Although price was
not the single arbiter, it certainly was one of the most important and
when combined with memory capacity it made the 40Mb size seem to be
the best value (other things being equal, of course).

Added to this was the potential to use a stacking system to increase
the card's value without going over 80Mb, since there have been
reports of problems with storage capacities over this limit.  As you
have probably all gathered, most of the rest of the selecting had to
rely on information gleaned from reading and from messages to this
mailing list and to our local list.  I have sent messages to more than
one supplier/manufacturer for technical details but without response.
Also, one of our members has used a Simple Technology card and
although not able to provide figures has not noted any problems or
significant decrease in speed of writing/reading to it as compared to
using the C: drive.

Once I have the address of a supplier (on recommendation), I intend to
ask more of the technical questions, including money-back guarantee,
discount on bulk sales etc. (though ours is a very small group).  If
the supplier is prepared to nominate satisfied customers, so much the
better, as I can then make contact.

It is certainly not plain sailing, however, as just when potential
problems have been checked and seem to have disappeared, another
arises.  For instance, just recently on Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Martin
Sebastian wrote:-

> I've just bought a new 40mb Simple Technologies card a few months
> ago.  I've paid $900, here in Argentina, all is expensive.    :(

> The problem is, that the card *won't* work under 2.4V, and the
> palmtop will display "drive not ready", I thought it was the card, so I
> returned it, and the  dealer here, gave another one, but, the
> problem is also on this card, so I believe that the card itself,
> won't work under 2.40, or 2.50

> It's not a big problem, cause I'm re-charging batteries twice a
> week, but, if you change between flash and modems, well....be careful, you
> may find a not friendly message like "drive not ready", when trying
> to access, some important data.

> My Exp 8mb card, was able to work even under 2.4, or below.

> BTW, I'm using a pair of nimh 1400 amp.

As I have said elsewhere, we really need a consumers' association to
investigate such things; but since in the broader scheme of things
these flashcards are rather more specialist items, no official
organisation would find it worthwhile to get involved.  If they were
as common as floppy disks, the price would probably be in keeping and
we could afford not to worry about other details.  The ultimate answer
may lie in our own hands.  It has recently been suggested that members
of the HPLX Mailing List should adopt a uniform protocol for testing
and comparing card speeds, for instance.  Good idea!

Anyway, I am awaiting further information from a local user and also
hoping to get feedback from current readers, including the name of
suppliers of Simple Technology flashcards, before progressing to the
next stage.  I shall keep you posted.  There must be information
somewhere -- after all, it's on the cards!

So, if anyone has any relevant information, please commit it to print,
thanks.

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX

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I have two french poqet to sell (french keyboard).
1-  poqet classic + serial cable + case. :$150
2- poqet plus (from fujitsu, dos 5, Backlight, serial & // interface)
+ serial cable) : $200
3- I have also 2 poquets modems 2400B (working fine on a 9V baterry)
+ cables + powersupply. : $15
 2 * 2Mg SRAM PCMCIA card : $190 ea
1 * 1Mg SRAM PCMCIA card : $120
4 * 64K SRAM PCMCIA card : $40 ea
PS: I give a poquet modem for free with
a poqet computer
(if they are still available)
or make an offer.
Al
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Date:         Mon, 19 Jan 1998 17:50:44 +1100
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The reporters of slower flash cards may be interested in this:


"TURBO.COM
"This tiny little program resets the Wait states for the
"plug-in cards and ROM chips on your 100LX. By default, at cold reset,
"the plug-in card memory is normally set at a value of 3 wait states.
"However, for SRAM cards, the chips are almost as fast as the built-in
"RAM and so they can operate much faster than three wait states. This
"program decreases the wait states to zero for plug-in RAM and zero for
"the ROM chips too. Since I don't own a Flash Card..it has not been
"tested with that type of memory, which is typically much slower than
"SRAM and might actually need three wait states. Therefore, I suggest
"that it only be run on systems that use the SRAM cards and NOT by Flash
"Card users...
"
"The effect of this program is to speed up the disk access time and file
"transfer rate for loading and unloading files from the A: Drive. To
"test its effect: just compare the amount of time the little hourglass
"symbol stays on the screen during file loading before and after running
"this program. I noticed a difference. You can also measure the speedup
"by checking how long a 100LX phonebook "find" operation takes.
"
"It has also been shown that the ROM change of wait states improves the
"performance of execution of the System manager application code and
"improves the performance of the 100LX much more than changing the
"plug-in card SRAM wait states. There has been some concern expressed as
"to the systems' stability when running the ROMs at zero wait states:
"the jury is still out....let us know if your system crashes after
"running turbo.com because the information will be valuable. Personally,
"I have had no problems and I have heard no reports of poor system
"stability so far."


--
Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren             PROJECT: the essence of melody
        It was the best of times :) it was the worst of times :(

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Date:         Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:31:50 GMT
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On Sun, 18 Jan 1998 13:11:23 +0100, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

>Anyhow, I made the small utility to turn off and on the display (no
>requests, please - see Brendan's other post). With everything set to =
max,
>that is maxcpu loaded, lite sleep disabled, and the screen turned off I
>get  ~23% speed increase over a stock LX!

This could be useful for those of us wanting to convert our digital photo
files on the HP.  Do keep us informed.

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
Team 200LX UK
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Date:         Mon, 19 Jan 1998 02:57:09 -0500
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Using the newton is a bit more difficult than the normal keyboard,
because the keys are closer than on an AT board. I use it on my desk,
and still press 2 keys at the time. But it is much faster and handy than
on the LX keys. I haven't tried to type in the bus/train on the newton.
My fingers are about average male size, and I am not a "piano player".

regards,
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Date:         Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:40:07 +0100
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>After reading all the latest talk about turbo.com, I downloaded it and
>installed it one my 200LX. It seems to work great and does seem to speed
>things up a bit. Now I'm wondering if this will program will shorten
>battery life on the palmtop? Does anyone have any comments?
>
I have been using turbo.com and turbocpu.com simulatneously (according to
its instructions) but did not notice any substantial speed increase ther
than in my imagination. However, when installed, I could not address either
my modem nor my printer, so I had to deinstall (by way of a macro) every
time I used these devices. Finally I quit using turbo. The recent discussion
has reawakende my interest. Maybe I overlooked something.

Frank

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Date:         Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:39:07 +1100
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"turbo" - what an apt name!!

...and it seems we are a second (or later!) generation of HipLxer's...

> Fm: Thomas Krug 100273,3703
> To: robert williams 76167,2773
>
> Robert,
> I did some benchmarking with TURBO on the 100LX. I used the good old
> Dhrystone benchmark which tests only CPU performance. Here the results:
>
>             Dhrystones1  Time1     Time2   Dhrystones2
>  NORMCPU     847         59sec     59sec    847
>  TURBOCPU   1282         39sec     55sec    909
>  MAXCPU     2000         25sec     51sec    980
>
>  Dhrystones1: the original results as calculated by Dhrystone with
>  the internal clock and shown on screen (a higher number means
>  better performance)
>  Time1:       time measured with the internal clock
>  Time2:       time measured with an external stopwatch
>  Dhrystones2: these would be the correct results according to the external
> clock with the real time, not to the wrong internal real time clock
>
> With TURBOCPU the HP100's CPU runs 7% faster, with MAXCPU 16%.
>
> TomK

Therefore, the 23% increase seems about right...

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On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:40:07


> I have been using turbo.com and turbocpu.com simulatneously (according to its
> instructions) but did not notice any substantial speed increase ther than in
> my imagination. However, when installed, I could not address either my modem
> nor my printer, so I had to deinstall (by way of a macro) every time I used
> these devices. Finally I quit using turbo. The recent discussion has reawakende
> my interest. Maybe I overlooked something.
>
> Frank

Try running turbocpu.com and turborom.com. (skip running turbo.com).
Forthe modem/printing problem I use the following  workarounds:

I run my modem using programs from a batch file.

example:

normcpu.com
maxdos -da:\postlx a:\postlx\READER.EXE

Then afterwards I re-start Turbocpu from System Manager.
(I use it like a turbo switch on a desktop pc).
Far as printing goes, I also shut down turbocpu by running Normcpu.com
from System Manager (also just like shutting down turbo on you desktop).

Then... when you really wanta get busy, say like using WP51.
Hit Max/CPU and 51 will fly screen flicking and all, just like you gave
it some bad tasteful medicine ((:-D





Regards,

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/ /_/ / / / / / / / /_/ / / / / _ _
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Date:         Mon, 19 Jan 1998 05:26:13 -0800
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My company, Shore Systems Ltd., resells Viking Components
www.vikingcomponents.com Compact Flash cards for HP 1/2/3/6x0 palmtops.
These can be used with any palmtop with the addition of a PC Card adapter.
The cards are dual voltage (3.3/5.0 volt) and Auto Sense the platform in
which they are used.

Viking is located a short distance from our Belmont Shore office. Viking's
cards are superior to those made by SanDisk for three reasons.

First, the read/write speeds are much faster due to Viking's use of the
Lexar www.lexr.com controller. Transfer speeds in burst mode are up to
10MB/second from host to interface for Viking vs. 6MB for SanDisk. Typical,
continuous write speeds are 750Kb per second or Viking vs. 450-500Kb for
SanDisk.

Second, power consumption is lower in sleep and write mode; about 30% less
than SanDisk. Viking's power use is 20-32 mHa in 3.3 volt write mode vs.
32-45 mHa for SanDisk.

Third, we have much higher capacity cards than SanDisk (32Mb at present;
45Mb in late Jan98) at a cost/MB that is 50% less than SanDisk.

Our prices for Viking's cards, including the PC Card adapter, are 24Mb/$209
32Mb/$269. The 45Mb is expected to be priced ~ $339.

We provide a 5-yr warranty from Viking and a 30-day money back exchange
policy.

WE SHIP ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. VISA/MC
preferred. Fax orders to 562.439.3678 or phone 213.848.2450 x207 0830-1730
M-F LA time. Email ok, but pls break up info into two or more msgs for
security reasons.

Bernie Torbik

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Date:         Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:04:46 -0800
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Subject:      Re: libretto 70
Comments: To: Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>

I spoke with a gentleman who confirms the 4 hour figure with the extended
battery pack. I was a little dubious, but he was quite convincing that 4
hours was a valid figure.

I have a Gateway Handbook, 486/33 monochrome, that will make it about an
hour and a half under intense use, ie lots of disk access, with Win95, so
I'm a little envious. Then again the Handbook was lots cheaper than a new
libretto.

> ----------
> From:         Brendan Macmillan
> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List;Brendan Macmillan
> Sent:         Saturday, January 17, 1998 6:34 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      libretto 70
>
> I hate to admit this, but I've been looking aver the competition.
> And I reckon that the Libretto 70 (120MHz MMX Pentium) is probably
> about 100 times faster than our hplx's. Not just the clockspeed, but
> the caching, bus width etc etc. CPU's *have* improved in a decade. :)
>
>
> However, they say that battery life (with an `enhanced' battery pack)
> is around 4 hours. And I bet that this 4 hours is not 4 hours worth
> of compiling; but 4 hours of `typical use' - half typing, half thinking
> etc.
>
> Even the other specs sound very impressive, this amount of battery
> hassle is not really worth it. Anybody have any ideas about the true
> battery life; or of a worthy successor?
>
>
> There is the IBM PC110 as well, of course; but I think it has become
> abandonehardware, like our hp95|100|200lx's; whereas a new version
> of the Libretto seems to be announced every few months!
>
> --
> Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
> http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren             PROJECT: the essence of
> melody
>  "I get knocked down But I get up again You're never going to keep me
> down"
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Date:         Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:29:39 -0800
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To summarize (for those still interested), I've compiled the numbers for
the 7 respondents who tried the simple speed test on their LX. Apologies
if I've missed anyone or garbled their information.

The original test batch file also follows, for anyone else who wants to
try it....you just have to save it to disk, edit out the notes and run it.

The test uses a file found on all 200LX's, so I don't know if it's valid
for 100/95LX members, and as I noted below, the test results may be
influenced by the use of AC vs battery, cluster size and disk
fragmentation (as pointed out by several users).

The sampling below is too small to make but the most obvious conclusions:

1) Disk access is faster on internal drive, C:
2) Disk access is faster on AC vs battery (unless fresh).
3) David Sargent needs to tape down his Ctrl key <g>.

The information is more useful as a rough "order of measure".

Now if only someone could come up with a simple way of checking the
relative power consumptions....

- Longden

--------------------------------------------------------
Time    Card Type       Notes
  3.46  Internal        Longden Loo, (1)
 11.87  Kingston 20mb   battery
 10.58  "       "       AC

  3.68  Internal        Jaime Viehweg, (2)
 10.02  IBM 20mb
 40.21  IBM 20mb/Jam

  4.6   Internal        David Sargeant (3)
223.    Pretec,32mb     "       ", normal
 22.    "               "       ",Ctrl key held down
  7.3   MicroTech,40mb  "       "

 11.87   SanDisk, 5mb   David Lawrence (4)

  3.75  Internal        Lynn Cavendish (5)
  4.49  HP F1003A 512K SRAM
 10.19  PNY P-CF008-PA 8 Meg ATA Flash
 26.15  HP 1013A 10 Meg Linear Flash
 77.84  Viking 9610333-02 4 Meg ATA Flash, Stacker 4.0
 21.0           read unstacked, write stacked.
 77.00  Eiger ACF-AT 15 Meg "Film Card", Stacker 4.0
 28.0           read unstacked, write stacked.

  7.0   Internal        hplx@comports.com (6)
 22.0   SunDisk,SDP-10  "

  3.5   Internal        B Biggers (7)
  6.3   PNY compact flash,4mb
 25.5   IBM 10mb
--------------------------------------------

Notes: Assume normal 200LX unless otherwise noted

 1. 2x/6mb, Kingston 20mb, DP-ATA/20
 2. 2x/8mb, AC attached
 3. 2x
 4. 512 byte sectors
 5. 2x/6mb
 6. Single-speed, NSW upgraded 6MB 200LX with 10MB
        SUndisk SDP-10, formatted with 2K clusters:
 7. IBM card is old, "Thinkpad File", Sundisk.

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The test:
- Valid for 200LX, unknown on 100/95LX
- Sample file c123us.hlp is 102,381 bytes long
- Copy operations approximates a 1 megabyte read/write
- Test is run from DOS, on the drive to be tested
- Test should be run about 3-5 times to derive an average figure.
- Factors to consider: cluster size, fragmentation, use
        of AC/battery, battery condition.

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@echo off
copy d:\_sys\c123us.hlp test.dat
echo. | time
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
echo. | time
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Longden C. Loo wrote:

> To summarize (for those still interested), I've compiled the numbers for
> the 7 respondents who tried the simple speed test on their LX. Apologies
> if I've missed anyone or garbled their information.

> The sampling below is too small to make but the most obvious conclusions:

> 1) Disk access is faster on internal drive, C:
> 2) Disk access is faster on AC vs battery (unless fresh).
> 3) David Sargent needs to tape down his Ctrl key <g>.

Ah, if only it were that simple... :-)What we ought to do, is come up with an
actual benchmark program that would measure the CPU speed, then bench the
internal RAM and the flash card.  That way, with the CPU speed rating, we'd
have an easy way of telling how fast the card really was, and how much was
influenced by the speed of the machine.
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How about creating a USENET newsgroup called alt.abandonware.binaries
or comp.os.msdos.abandonware.binaries?  Not as nice as a full fledged
HTML 3.2 windows-and-frames Web site, but it does solve the
storage/ISP problem.

What is comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted?  The autoloaded pointer said:

|   This group is to be used to post requests/replies concerning where
|   to find ibm pc or compatible programs. Topics include requests for
|   missing parts of binaries posted to news:comp.binaries.ibm.pc and
|   requests for specific programs.
|
| Please note: The "looking for" and similar questions and discussions
| about fully commercial programs are covered in
news:comp.os.msdos.apps
| and news:comp.os.msdos.misc, *NOT* in
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| Please note: The newsgroup news:comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted is not
| for binary postings despite its name. It is a discussion only
| newsgroup. It is understandable that the name may confuse some
| readers, but it is news:comp.binaries.ibm.pc (moderated) that is the
| relevant binaries newsgroup in this subhierarchy.

> On Sun, 18 Jan 1998 01:09:32 -0500, James Hall <jrhall@INFOCOM.COM> wrote:
>
> Could anyone suggest a web page hosting service (like geocities or tripod)
> with more than 2 or 3mb space?

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James please email me so we can talk I want excell and one other program tx
Roy
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I just received back my 200LX from getting the NSW Memory upgrade and it's
going through a set of alkaline batteries in 30 - 36 hours. Before the
upgrade I was getting over a month of usage on a set.

I received the unit Friday from NSW and the batteries were dead. New
batteries would not turn the unit on so I took all 3 batteries out for 30
minutes and started over. Powered up fine. Restored my C drive and went to
work. Sunday morning, wouldn't turn on. Checked the batteries: dead. Data
lost. Removed all batteries for 30 minutes, put in new ones and booted up.
Data lost.  18 hours later battery indicater is showing 1/2 level.

Com port power is off.

Any ideas? I hate to send it back again as I sent the unit over the
holidays for the upgrade and they sent it back without upgrading it, so I'm
already out the upgrade plus 2 FedEx shipments to California.

Thanks,
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I would like to bye HP200LX or HP100LX in reasonably good condition.
Of course, for reasonable price :-)

Nedim.

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Sorry, I meant buy not bye :-)

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On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Mary and Mike Kilpatrick wrote:

> I just received back my 200LX from getting the NSW Memory upgrade and it's
> going through a set of alkaline batteries in 30 - 36 hours. Before the
> upgrade I was getting over a month of usage on a set.
>
<snipped dirty details>
>
> Any ideas? I hate to send it back again as I sent the unit over the
> holidays for the upgrade and they sent it back without upgrading it, so I'm
> already out the upgrade plus 2 FedEx shipments to California.

Have you tried giving them a call? What warranty did they offer on the
work?

I had mine upgraded (T2T tho) for speed and memory and battery longevity
dropped from 2-3 weeks to 1.5-2 weeks, tho I understand most of that was
due to speed upgrade. I seem to remember some posters mentioning a drop in
battery life due to electrical problems from an upgrade (not necessarily
NSW) and had to be returned for repairs.

Tough luck...unless NSW picks up the cost of shipping. Upgrades can truly
be a crap-shoot these days, with the downtime and shipping costs :(

- Longden

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I tried one of those CD-ROMs from about 1995. The
text of the articles was there, but tables and figures were
missing. So testing results, detail configuration and lots of
other stuff was missing. Useless to me.

Is this still the case?

Jonathan R Barrett wrote:

> Ziff-Davis has a (subscription - like US$6-10 / month - I forget the
> details) site with back issues of a number of magazines, not limited to
> theirs, depending on how far back you want to go. Try prowling around
> http://www.ziffdavis.com. I ran across it, but never joined up since I
> get the ones I care about on CD-ROM.

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Hi Bernie,

        Thanks for the Viking info.  Three years ago I paid $959 for a 20 meg
HP card.  I am looking at replacing my 100LX with a new, 8 meg, double
speed 200LX.  The 45 meg card sounds interesting.  Pehaps a modem and
net software too.

Colin

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Greetings,

        Once again I hit the wrong button on this damned GUI.  My private
inquiry was not intended for the list.  Sorry for the bandwidth.

Colin

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On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:29:17, you wrote:

> I would like to bye HP200LX or HP100LX in reasonably good condition.
> Of course, for reasonable price :-)



Hi Nedim,

Just found this post, but better hurry. (:-D
********************************************

From: Chris@sublime.com (Chris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: fs: HP 200LX
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 98 06:26:59 GMT
Organization: Sublime Films
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I have (2) palmtops forsale:

200LX 1meg w/manual  $150
200LX 2meg w/manual  $200

-c





Regards,

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hp 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Does anyone know of (price, characteristics, where to buy it) and has
used a small battery powered printer, such as thermic printers or
printers for CASIO calculator, which could be connected to the HP200LX ?
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I have a friend who's not on the list who had his 200LX crash over the
weekend.  He had a 20MB HP flash card in the unit, and now it's in
write-only mode; he can't access his files (appointment book, phone book,
etc.) unless he first copies them over to the C drive.  Anybody ever
had this problem or know of a fix outside of backing up and reformatting
the card?

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Date:         Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:56:10 -0800
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On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> I have a friend who's not on the list who had his 200LX crash over the
> weekend.  He had a 20MB HP flash card in the unit, and now it's in
> write-only mode; he can't access his files (appointment book, phone book,
> etc.) unless he first copies them over to the C drive.  Anybody ever
> had this problem or know of a fix outside of backing up and reformatting
> the card?

How did he copy the files to the C drive if it's only in write-only mode?
Do you mean the built-in apps can't read it? Or do you mean read-only
mode?

Funny you should ask. I was playing around with some graphics programs
last week when suddenly my C:\ directory became "read-only". I was still
able to write to A: and to any subdirectory under C:\, but basically not
in the root area itself....weird!

I tried several attribute modifying programs, but none of them seemed to
work on the root directory. Finally gave up and did the Ctrl-Shift-On/Yes
thing and then restored from my nightly backup.

Seems like something corrupted the file allocation table, or whereever the
file attributes are kept. My advice would be to
backup/format/restore...the file attribute may be the only VISIBLE thing
corrupted and your friend may experience something more damaging later.

- Longden

PS - Please let me know how you fix it....I may need the info.

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>But don't SanDisk have an 85MB card out there for >at least a year?


Cards referenced are Compact Flash (CF). The
highest capacity CF card mfrd by SanDisk is a
24MB card. SanDisk does make an 85Mb PC
Card but its write speed are VERY slow.
>
>Why would I need a "PC card adapter" for a 200LX >palmtop which already has
a PCMCIA slot?

Because a 50-pin CF card won't work in a 68-pin
PC Card slot.
>

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>
> they sent it back without upgrading it,

You're saying that you sent it there, they sent it back, no upgrade was
done, and now you have reduced battery life?



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For all that are interested you can download Windows 1.0, 2.0 & 3.0 via
anonymous FTP from my pub space. Here is the address:

ftp://ftp.scott.net/pub/users/jeffj/

If anyone wants to donates some more abandonware I'll be happy to upload
it to my account for everyone to use, at least until someone threatens me
with a lawsuit :) Have fun!!!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
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Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd

    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:32:20 +1300 (NZDT)

06h09m21s ago ...
On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 05:22:59 -0800 (PST), Bernard A. Torbik wrote:


> Viking's
> cards are superior to those made by SanDisk for three reasons.

<.snip.. interesting though>

> Third, we have much higher capacity cards than SanDisk (32Mb at present;
> 45Mb in late Jan98) at a cost/MB that is 50% less than SanDisk.

But don't SanDisk have an 85MB card out there for at least a year?

> Our prices for Viking's cards, including the PC Card adapter, are =
24Mb/$209
> 32Mb/$269. The 45Mb is expected to be priced ~ $339.

Why would I need a "PC card adapter" for a 200LX palmtop which already
has a PCMCIA slot?

Oops I may have got this all wrong - maybe these are "Compact Flash
cards"?? I don't know anything about them.

Regards, Tony

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I couldn't download these files from the site:
Permission denied.

Nedim.

At 04:34 PM 1/19/98 -0600, you wrote:
>For all that are interested you can download Windows 1.0, 2.0 & 3.0 via
>anonymous FTP from my pub space. Here is the address:
>
>ftp://ftp.scott.net/pub/users/jeffj/
>
>If anyone wants to donates some more abandonware I'll be happy to upload
>it to my account for everyone to use, at least until someone threatens me
>with a lawsuit :) Have fun!!!
>
>
>73 de KF4KGQ
>Jeff Johns
>jeffj@scott.net
>Reserve Captain
>Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
>Birmingham, Alabama USA
>http://www.bham.net/jcsd

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Jeff wrote:
>
> For all that are interested you can download Windows 1.0, 2.0 & 3.0 via
> anonymous FTP from my pub space. Here is the address:
>
> ftp://ftp.scott.net/pub/users/jeffj/
>
> If anyone wants to donates some more abandonware I'll be happy to upload
> it to my account for everyone to use, at least until someone threatens me
> with a lawsuit :) Have fun!!!

Hi Jeff,

Can't find them, they're listed but server can't find them to download.

Bob
>
> 73 de KF4KGQ
> Jeff Johns
> jeffj@scott.net
> Reserve Captain
> Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
> Birmingham, Alabama USA
> http://www.bham.net/jcsd
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Date:         Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:07:46 -0500
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Thanks for the batch file. Here are my results:

Drive:
c:      12.63!!! (free space 214K)
a:       9.61    (free space 1527K)

The 200lx is single speed, 2Mb, booted to DOS (not shell from PIM) and
running on NiCad's. The A/C adapter was used to eliminate battery
differences.

The a-drive is a 20Mb SanDisk Compact flash card.

No disk compression on any of the disks. No turbo.


*** But why is the c-drive slover than the a-drive??? ***

Well, I moved two files to the a-disk so the c-disk now had 341K free.
Its performance now improved to 9.35!

OK guys and dolls, ready to start all over?  We have to wipe the disks
(slates?) clean before the test.

Jorgen
    =

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Date:         Mon, 19 Jan 1998 20:54:16 -0600
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Sorry guys, I forgot to change the permissions on the files :-( They are
now ready for download. As I said before all I have right now is Windows
1.0, 2.0 & 3.0. I'll upload any other "abandonware" if folks will send it
to me :) You can download using a browser by using the following address:

ftp://ftp.scott.net/pub/users/jeffj/

Or by anonymous ftp at:

scott.net/pub/users/jeffj/

For those not familiar with anonymous ftp, when the server prompts you
for a user name enter "anonymous" without the quotation marks and when
the server prompts for a password just enter your email address.

I'm sorry that I didn't change the permissions before I posted my first
message, but they should be readily available now. Have fun with them!!!
By the way, I'm on the lookout for a used copy of ABC/LX, if anyone has
one for sale, please contact me.


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:51:36 -0000
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Hi,

Can anyone tell me how to unsubscribe using this list.

Thanks in advance

Regards

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:51:43 +1300
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Subject:      Re: Flash card write-only mode?
Comments: cc: davidsa@accessnv.com

On 1998-01-19 davidsa@accessnv.com said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >I have a friend who's not on the list who had his 200LX crash over
<Snip>
   >in write-only mode; he can't access his files (appointment book,
<Snip>

Sounds like stacker/whatever HP uses to compress the card with
has found an error and is setting the attributes to the vol as
read-only. Running chkdsk/f may not be able to correct the
internal error and perhaps the compression program's own
integrity checker should be used first, otherwise...

The trick is to back all the info from the card onto a PC and
re-create the compressed vol. This usually entails a format,
which will absolve most errors.

Hope this helps.

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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On 1998-01-19 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
<Snip>
   >programs last week when suddenly my C:\ directory became
   >"read-only". I was still able to write to A: and to any
   >subdirectory under C:\, but basically not in the root area itself...
<Snip>
   >PS - Please let me know how you fix it....I may need the info.

Sounds like you bumped into the HPLX 64 file "Wall"

You can have all kinds of disk space free, but the LX will not
let you have any more than 64 files (and directories count, too)
in the root level. In sub-directories, I can't remember the
number, but I think you are allowed quite a few thousand.

BTW, directories and sub-directories all take up disk space, so
those of you with a passion for thirty-seven different flavors of
sub-sub-levels should check your disk free space, concatenate and
then recheck.

One can get away with gratuitous waste on a 4gig HD running
several trillion files via Bloatware, but the little "Computer
of Choice" requires more frugal management.

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Mon, 19 Jan 1998 20:52:52 -0800
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              David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
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The contest to win a free memory upgrade, speed upgrade, or pair of
high-capacity batteries has begun at my site.  Visit and enter to win!
Read all about Times2 Tech and Mack Baggette!

--
Enter to win upgrades for the 200LX palmtop computer at
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Date:         Mon, 19 Jan 1998 23:36:19 -0800
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              Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
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I've been using ENTENTE Language Translator
(the Japanese translation version) recently
on my HP200LX and thought the list might be interested in my
experience.  It translates simple English sentences to and
from foreign languages.

The manual is out of date.  You have to ignore the
installation instructions and use the 8 1/2 by 11 inch
handout that comes with the diskettes.

You can't run it from system manager easily.
When I tried, it locked up the system and I had
to use a hard reset.

The translation, when it works, is pretty horrible.  The word
order is all wrong and the Japanese person I tried to
communicate with had to really struggle to understand.

*** But it does work sometimes and that's what makes it fun.
The translations are funny in themselves.

I also noticed that I seem to be learning a lot from the
translations.  NOTE: I have access to a native speaker,
so I can ask her to correct the translation after it
is done crudely by the HP200LX.

I sometimes travel to Japan and end up spending time
with my permanent girl friend's relatives.  They speak
almost no English;  in the past it has been really difficult
to communicate, so the HP200LX will be a life saver
next time.

You can add your own extra words to the system.
I've downloaded a Japanese/English database
from SUPER and I'll be using that to help me expand
the system.

Hmm.  I notice that there is a Chinese version, too.
Maybe I'll order that next so I can communicate
better with my nightclub/ballroom dance partner!
She's came from  from China--then moved to
Hong Kong, then to the US.  She's a very good dancer;
she was a professional  ballet dance instructor there, but
doesn't yet speak much English, yet.


I wonder how many translation programs are
available for the WINCE machines.


Contact info:

ENTENE, 1441 Mariposa Ave, Boulder, CO 80302
800-409-1701
http://www.dash.com/netro/bus/entene
Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
Phil Seyer (415) 665-8933, ext. 333

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Date:         Mon, 19 Jan 1998 23:42:23 -0800
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              Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Excel/Word/Windows 2.0
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I use EXCEL on my desktop machine.  It is
defintely better than Lotus 1-2-3.  But
I like 1-2-3 for use on my HP200LX.

It's cumbersome, but once you get
used to the commands, you can tolerate it.

I recently bought a computer from DOMINO
(a computer store that let's you customize
your computer purchase.  Each little
piece has to be itemized.  I found 123
very useful.  I caught the salesperson
making a few errors when he made
the quotation.  I new exactly what
the final price would be, including tax.

At 09:45 PM 1/16/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:45:30 +0000
>Message-ID: <19980117024528.AAA18518@12.64.8.134>
>
>On 1998-01-16 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
>   >As for me, excel 2.1 has been a gem - it is a far more powerful
>   >application than the 123 in the rom and gives mobile
>   >number-crunchers some very impressive functionality...
>
>Excel seems certainly easier to learn (and remember) than 123, but what
>added functionality does Excel give you that makes it more powerful than
>123?
>
>I doubt you're referring to ease of use, since WinCE would probably fit
>the bill better in that area.
>
>I use 123 frequently, but I'll switch if there's a good reason to do so.
>
>- Longden
>
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Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
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Date:         Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:06:04 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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send e-mail to: LISTSERV@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
and without including a topic, in the body of the message type:
SIGNOFF HPLX-L
that's all it takes, it's in the FAQ.

Phil
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>Hi,
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>Can anyone tell me how to unsubscribe using this list.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Regards
>
>HS
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Date:         Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:18:41 +0500
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        I mean the 4 Meg. RAM model, complete with HP guarantee, not one of
those doctored up 8 Meg. models.
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Date:         Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:30:57 +0000
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In digging around through some old software I managed to find my old copies of
microsoft quickc version 2.0 and Borland Turbo C++ version 2.0.  However
unfortunately the first disk of quickc and the 8th and final disk of turbo c++
have bad sectors on them.  These are the original 360K floppies.  IF anyone
would happen to still have the original disks laying around somewhere and could
send me a copy of disk 1 of quickc or disk 8 of turbo c++ it would be very much
appriciated.  I am a registered user of both so this would be completely legal.

Thanks,

Jonathan Haase

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:41:17 +0100
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>        I mean the 4 Meg. RAM model, complete with HP guarantee, not one of
> those doctored up 8 Meg. models.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" Juvenal.
> ------------------------------------------
> R.W. Hutchinson. | rwhutch@nr.infi.net

Here in Luxembourg new stock of the HP200LX is freely available on the shelves of various shops, if you are prepared to pay the remarkably high list price (about $750 for the 4 Mbyte model, including local sales tax (VAT)). One local hypermarket has them a little cheaper (about $630) but they only have the French version. According to the shops they are still supplied as a current product by H-P. Of course at these prices not many are actually sold. I fished around for discounts but this is not really part of the local culture even in the post-Christmas sale season, so in the end I found a second -hand one via the Rundel Datentechnik site in Germany (who also advertise new ones at reasonable prices).

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:51:16 -0800
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Comments: To: "John.ALLEN@EUROSTAT.CEC.BE" <John.ALLEN@EUROSTAT.CEC.BE>

try www.zones.com

> ----------
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>
> >        I mean the 4 Meg. RAM model, complete with HP guarantee, not one
> of
> > those doctored up 8 Meg. models.
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" Juvenal.
> > ------------------------------------------
> > R.W. Hutchinson. | rwhutch@nr.infi.net
>
> Here in Luxembourg new stock of the HP200LX is freely available on the
> shelves of various shops, if you are prepared to pay the remarkably high
> list price (about $750 for the 4 Mbyte model, including local sales tax
> (VAT)). One local hypermarket has them a little cheaper (about $630) but
> they only have the French version. According to the shops they are still
> supplied as a current product by H-P. Of course at these prices not many
> are actually sold. I fished around for discounts but this is not really
> part of the local culture even in the post-Christmas sale season, so in
> the end I found a second -hand one via the Rundel Datentechnik site in
> Germany (who also advertise new ones at reasonable prices).
>
> John Allen
>
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How do lyou copy files from a write-only device ???
Hopefully, its missing statements in Config.sys and autoexec.bat
which was lost. Was it stacked, jammed or .. ??

David Sargeant wrote:

> I have a friend who's not on the list who had his 200LX crash over the
> weekend.  He had a 20MB HP flash card in the unit, and now it's in
> write-only mode; he can't access his files (appointment book, phone book,
> etc.) unless he first copies them over to the C drive.  Anybody ever
> had this problem or know of a fix outside of backing up and reformatting
> the card?
>
> --
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Date:         Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:58:54 -0500
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----- forwarded message -----
Date  Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:23:05 +0200 (EET)
From Alexander Stanovoy <alex@tipas.lt>
To HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, Nedim <nedim@ATHENS.NET>
Subject Re: Want to buy HP200LX or HP100LX.

I can sell You my HP100LX for 200$, it's in good condition with
UserManual.

 Alexander Stanovoy
  ph:+370-98-47300

On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Nedim wrote:

> Date Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:29:17 -0500
> From Nedim <nedim@ATHENS.NET>
> Reply-To HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
>     Nedim <nedim@ATHENS.NET>
> To HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject Want to buy HP200LX or HP100LX.
>
> I would like to bye HP200LX or HP100LX in reasonably good condition.
> Of course, for reasonable price :-)
>
> Nedim.
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On Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:18:41,R.W. Hutchinson wrote:

>I mean the 4 Meg. RAM model, complete with HP guarantee, not one
>of those doctored up 8 Meg. models.


Shier Systems & Software. Inc. sales them.
F1206A          HP 200LX/4MB Palmtop                            $579.00

Phone: 805-371-9391
Fax:   805-371-9484
http://www.shier.com
To receive latest pricing sheet, email your requerst to:
pricing@shier.com

also Notebook Supply Warehouse use to sale them.

655 N. Berry Street, Suite E
Brea, CA 92621
Tel: 714-257-1680
Fax: 714-257-1688
1-800-566-6832
http://www.nsupply.com




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Thank you to David Sargeant for correcting me...

It is NOT Borland Turbo C++ version 2.0 as there is no such thing, but Borland
Turbo C++ 1.0 that I have. I got the version's mixed up between it and
microsoft quickc.  It is disk 8 that is corrupted.  I am not sure exactly which
files but it is a couple of the zip files I believe some of the libraries.

Thanks,

Jonathan Haase

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I have a Pretec 2 MB SRAM card.  It has performed well since I bought it a few
months ago.  SRAM is fast as you could hope for.  Maybe this is apples to
oranges, but my experience has been positive.

BTW, in reference to slack space on Stacked cards - a cluster in a Stac volume
does not contain empty space in only the first few bytes of the cluster are
used by the file it is assigned to.  They nestle them right up to one another.
 (In v4.0 - I am not certain about earlier versions.)  You can monitor this
process by copying a large number of tiny files and checking the space used in
the Stac volume with the Stacker utilities.  Don't go by space available with a
regular DIR command - go by the bytes used in the Stacker volume file.  If
memory serves, the command is check /d

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http://vtzone.ado.co.jp/front/home_US.html
The above is in Japan and they will sell you the basic unit for $350.
I think it is more stripped than the one listed below.
The PC110 (486/33) was discontinued last year. When I added
up the bits and pieces I would want it came to over $1000.
I think Libretto 50s can be had for about $1300. Thats a Pentium
and an 800 meg HD, 8 meg momory as I remember.


I was originally very excited about the product, but if it is no longer being
manufactured, and there is no US version, I think I will let it slide.  The
people selling the machine in the US are asking an arm and a leg for the ram
upgrade as well.   Maybe next year...

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jan 1998 13:00:36 -0700
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Yup, I said that, INSIDE the stacvol, your "working A: drive" you
will find 4k clusters.

Reboot and press Alt, select Default drive D:, process startup
files and you will see your card with a 3.~meg stacvol hidden
file. Check the cluster size now...

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

This has nothing to do with slack space INSIDE the stacvol file.

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I want to write an Autoexec.bat file (is that redundant?) that branches,
depending upon what I want to do:  (1) run Agenda or another program that
doesn't run under the SysMgr,  (2) run SysMgr, or (3) run Windows.  I know
that this can be done, but lacking any DOS documentation, am not clear how
to go about it.  Can/would someone out there give me a little shove in the
right direction?  I'd appreciate it.

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I think I can save you a little trouble, but it won't put you any closer
to your solution.
I have tried using the Menu, Menuitem=,foo. thing in the config.sys,
but DOS 5 does not seem to support it. :/

Phil

usual disclaimers go here.

>----------
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>Subject:       Autoexec.bat
>
>I want to write an Autoexec.bat file (is that redundant?) that branches,
>depending upon what I want to do:  (1) run Agenda or another program that
>doesn't run under the SysMgr,  (2) run SysMgr, or (3) run Windows.  I know
>that this can be done, but lacking any DOS documentation, am not clear how
>to go about it.  Can/would someone out there give me a little shove in the
>right direction?  I'd appreciate it.
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OK, I thought about it, have AUTOEXEC.BAT load any common stuff you need
for all the variations, then print (echo) instructions to press a number
and that number is the name of an additional .BAT file that finishes
your startup tasks.

Phil

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You will find that there are various batch file commands that you can use:

  IF condition command
  IF NOT condition command
  GOTO label
  CALL batchfile

You might want to consider buying the MS-DOS MicroRef guide from Thaddeus Computing.
Also, your public library might have a DOS manual.

I simpler approach might be to use AUTOMENU.  This shareware program will allow you to
create an easy to use menu system that will allow you to select which option to take.
Simply execute AUOTMENU from your AUTOEXEC.BAT file.

--- On Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:26:08 -0800  "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
wrote:

>I want to write an Autoexec.bat file (is that redundant?) that branches,
>depending upon what I want to do:  (1) run Agenda or another program that
>doesn't run under the SysMgr,  (2) run SysMgr, or (3) run Windows.  I know
>that this can be done, but lacking any DOS documentation, am not clear how
>to go about it.  Can/would someone out there give me a little shove in the
>right direction?  I'd appreciate it.
>
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www.computeresp.com turned up 20 vendors, 15 of which
has them in stock.  One claimed 503 unit avialable.

Jay Carlson wrote:

> try www.zones.com
>
> > ----------
> > From:         John Allen
> > Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List;John.ALLEN@EUROSTAT.CEC.BE
> > Sent:         Tuesday, January 20, 1998 6:41 AM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject:      Re: Do there remain any commercial sources of NEW HP 200LXs?
> >
> > >        I mean the 4 Meg. RAM model, complete with HP guarantee, not one
> > of
> > > those doctored up 8 Meg. models.
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" Juvenal.
> > > ------------------------------------------
> > > R.W. Hutchinson. | rwhutch@nr.infi.net
> >
> > Here in Luxembourg new stock of the HP200LX is freely available on the
> > shelves of various shops, if you are prepared to pay the remarkably high
> > list price (about $750 for the 4 Mbyte model, including local sales tax
> > (VAT)). One local hypermarket has them a little cheaper (about $630) but
> > they only have the French version. According to the shops they are still
> > supplied as a current product by H-P. Of course at these prices not many
> > are actually sold. I fished around for discounts but this is not really
> > part of the local culture even in the post-Christmas sale season, so in
> > the end I found a second -hand one via the Rundel Datentechnik site in
> > Germany (who also advertise new ones at reasonable prices).
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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:44:27 +1300
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On 1998-01-20 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >I want to write an Autoexec.bat file (is that redundant?) that
   >branches, depending upon what I want to do:  (1) run Agenda or
   >another program that doesn't run under the SysMgr,  (2) run SysMgr,

Oh goody, I hope this starts a thread that people can let on what
they have done to customise their palmtop environments and how
they launch programs.

I have a stripped autoexec.bat and config.sys as I boot to dos
with as little as possible taking memory. I do like to use a
font, so there goes some, and I do like lxshift, to make the
Ctrl, Alt & Func keys sticky, so there goes some more.

As I boot to raw dos, I have many little batch files in a
directory on the path to launch programs. For example, I type "n"
and press enter and the batch file n.bat takes me to the A:
drive, changes to the \net directory and launches nettamer. On
exiting the program, the batch file calls dos to delete any
temporary or backup files left by nettamer and my editor of
choice, Dexter. This is needed because I still have problems with
nettamer bombing out!

Likewise, if I type "w" and press enter, a batch file runs
sleepon, windows and after exiting, removes sleepon.

The advantage of batch files over menus or maxdos are the clean
state of memory, menu programs always leave some tags taking
space and occasionally tripping up your launched program.

Maxdos and Dosshell and Software Carousel all use disk space as
well for a swap space, adding to the woes of recovering from an
enforced reboot.

BTW, of the menu programs, I find the one built into XTree Gold
to be magnificently stable and easy to use. You can setup XTree
Gold to boot from the autoexec.bat with the menu screen and set
all your programs on a highly configurable listing.

On the subject of running things from dos, I have a macro in
sysmanager to do the More | Menu | Terminate | All | Enter faster
than fingers can fly, getting you to raw dos to run whatever you
please.

Tip: I picked this up a while ago reading an old dos manual,
instead of typing "type filename.ext | more" to get page-fulls of
information to the screen, try "more < filename.ext" this is
effectively the same, but get this, hit F3 after returning to the
prompt, (you can cancell many screens of type output with Crtl+C)
and the "more < filename.ext" will appear, now having it this way
around allows you to edit/retype the filename.ext to display
another file.

Boy, it's easier to do than to write about!

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:54:21 EST
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Subject:      Battery data - Some measurements. (and some speed data)

Having seen quite a few threads on battery usage, I thought I'd share
some measurements that I have done with various battery types. I wrote a
small program to measure the battery voltage at 5 minute intervals, and
to keep the CPU active to prevent an automatic no activity shutdown. I
found the following:

1. One use Alkaline batteries (Kodak PhotoCells) gave almost 17 hours
(16:52)  of continuous use before the palmtop shut itself off at low
voltage at 2.2 volts.

2. NiMH batteries (New Radio Shack 1100 mAh) gave almost 15 hours (14:52)
of continuous use before the palmtop shut itself off at low voltage at
1.95 volts.

3. Rechargeable NiCad (granted, ones I have used for quite a while) gave
between 7 and 12 hours continuous use prior to palmtop shutdown at 2.4
volts. I ran several charge/discharge cycles to see if that would improve
their performance. It did not.

I also tested the NiMH for self discharge by using an hour of calculator
continuous use per day for 7 days, followed by a test discharge which
last 5 hours. I do not consider this to be a significant self discharge
characteristic.

All these test were run on the same HP-100 LX and at the same temperature
(68F). I think that the best decision is to use NiMH batteries. In terms
of price/performance I think they are the best bet. Note I did not test
one use lithium batteries, simply due to their high expense.

If anyone would like the source or executable for the discharge program,
I will email it to them.  I also have a 123 file which graphs the
discharge curves over time. The NiMH batteries had the closest thing to a
"classic" battery discharge curve. The Nicads were relatively fast in
their drop off, and the alkalines had a "hitch" in their curve after
which the inflection seemed all wrong on the curve. Don't claim to
understand it, but that's what the data showed.

P.S. for those of you interested in speed performance, simply plugging
your HP-100 /200 into the AC adaptor will increase its speed a great deal
without requiring TURBO or TURBOCPU programs.

Brian McIlvaine

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On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Claud G. Cameron <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM> wrote:

ca> I want to write an Autoexec.bat file (is that redundant?) that =
branches,
ca> depending upon what I want to do:  (1) run Agenda or another program =
that
ca> doesn't run under the SysMgr,  (2) run SysMgr, or (3) run Windows.  I =
know
ca> that this can be done, but lacking any DOS documentation, am not =
clear how
ca> to go about it.  Can/would someone out there give me a little shove =
in the
ca> right direction?  I'd appreciate it.

I believe what you are after here is the 'menuitem=3D' command. This
defines a startup menu from which you can choose the group of
config.sys commands to process when you reboot. ie:

    Startup Menu
    =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
    1. Configure for Windows
    2. Configure for MS-DOS

    Enter a choice: 1

This allows you to select which drivers etc. are loaded but
unfortunately this is only available with ms-dos 6 and later :-( I
could find no way of doing something similar with ms-dos 5 - the
'call' command is useful in autoexec.bat but returns you to the
original batchfile after execution. 'Goto' and 'if' are very useful as
well but will not pause to allow user-input before proceeding as they
can only evaluate existing or pre-determined conditions. Any
batchfile/utility started from autoexec.bat will not give you the full
control that 'menuitem' does.

I have found that loading maxdos early in autoexec.bat works best for
me and eliminates the need for a menu since practically any dos
program that can run on the 200lx (including win 1/2/3 and most likely
agenda) can be made to run under maxdos. The only downside is that you
have no control over utils/drivers loaded from config.sys but as an
added bonus only tsr's appearing *before* the line that loads maxdos
(in autoexec.bat) will be present in your maxdos session! All others
will be written to the swapfile and restored on exit...

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Here is my AUTOEXEC.BAT, I thought you might like to see it.

@echo off
prompt $P$G
path=c:\_dat;c:\_sys;c:\bin\pcplus;c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;
echo.|date>>bootlog.doc
echo.|time>>bootlog.doc
echo Enter reason for re-boot.
copy con bootdesc.doc
if exist bootdesc.doc type bootdesc.doc>>bootlog.doc
if exist bootdesc.doc del bootdesc.doc>nul
set pcplus=c:\bin\pcplus
set temp=c:\bin\maxdos
battlog
c:\_sys\ipex -fc:\bin\ipex
rem **** Laplink Remote Driver ****
call d:\bin\llras
rem **** IRDA Drivers ****
rem c:\_sys\lamptsr /l /i
rem c:\_sys\comtsr /l
200
c:\_sys\ipex -r
battlog

Also, here is my CONFIG.SYS...

buffers=20,0
files=45
lastdrive=g
device=\spd31.sys
device=c:\tflxm\lxmdrv.sys
device=a:\_sys\ansi.sys
install d:\bin\cic100.exe /gen 1
install c:\_sys\maxdos.com -l


As you might notice, two drivers that normally get loaded in the
AUTOEXEC.BAT file, are loaded in the CONFIG.SYS using "install".  This
is a memory saving trick.  Some programs will work this way, some will
not.

I also have concanted most of my batch files into one big batch file
(BIG.BAT) and to launch the individual items from this monster batch
file, I use the variable passing method such as; BIG P which calls the
BIG.BAT batch file and launches Procomm+.

Phil


>----------
>From:  David LawrenceSMTP:katana@clear.net.nz
>Sent:  Wednesday, January 21, 1998 4:44 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: Autoexec.bat
>
>On 1998-01-20 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
>   >I want to write an Autoexec.bat file (is that redundant?) that
>   >branches, depending upon what I want to do:  (1) run Agenda or
>   >another program that doesn't run under the SysMgr,  (2) run SysMgr,
>
>Oh goody, I hope this starts a thread that people can let on what
>they have done to customise their palmtop environments and how
>they launch programs.
><sniped, but read with interest>

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Brian -

> If anyone would like the source or executable for the discharge program,
> I will email it to them.  I also have a 123 file which graphs the
> discharge curves over time. The NiMH batteries had the closest thing to a
> "classic" battery discharge curve. The Nicads were relatively fast in
> their drop off, and the alkalines had a "hitch" in their curve after
> which the inflection seemed all wrong on the curve. Don't claim to
> understand it, but that's what the data showed.

May I suggest that you put the source, the executable, your summary of the
results, and the 123 file all together in a .zip file and upload it to the
S.U.P.E.R. site? And, if you're on Compuserve, to HPHand as well?

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:08:50 -0600
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Here are my results using HP-branded Sundisk (not newer Sandisk) 10
and 20 MB flash cards in both a 1X and 2X speed 200LX:
C:
1X 8.03
2X 5.49

A: (10 MB card, no compression, 1K clusters except where specified)
1X 19.83
2X 16.59 (using 4K clusters)
2X 15.92

A: (20 MB card, no compression, 1K clusters)
1X 20.59
2X 17.41

The take-home messages:
1) Size of the card in this range does not seem to make a whole lot of
difference.  Neither does cluster size.
2) Compared to other results presented in this list, the HP/Sundisk cards
are not the fastest, despite being very costly.  I wish I had known this
earlier :(

That said, most of my time is spent reading from the disk, so write speed
isn't terribly crucial, and I suspect that it is the write time that
constitutes most of this benchmark program.  Subjectively, I don't get
impatient with my LX.

Comments are welcome.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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HP>Here is my AUTOEXEC.BAT, I thought you might like to see it.

HP>device=a:\_sys\ansi.sys

HP>Phil

   Phil,


   It is possible to load ansi.sys ?
   I mean, i load it, but it seems to have no effect on the 200, that is
   version 5.0 or later ?

   I've tried 5.0, 6.0. 6.22 with no success, i don't really need it,
   only for access to my bbs, actually i'm using telemate for dos, with
   TTY emulation, ansy is possible but, it's very hard to see the screen
   easily

   Any help ?


   Thanks


   Martin
   Marseb@giga.com.ar

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How can I change the cluster size on my ATA Flash 16MB (Simple Technolo=
gy) card?
I have tried the 1k formatter from Super, but it made the card unreadab=
le - had
to
reformat it normally, which meant it went back to 4k clusters.

I can access the Flash card from my Thinkpad (laptop) running WIN95

Regards,
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On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ> wrote:

ka> The advantage of batch files over menus or maxdos are the clean
ka> state of memory, menu programs always leave some tags taking
ka> space and occasionally tripping up your launched program.

David, i have used maxdos from the moment it appeared and must say
that i have never had a problem as a result of using it. It is one of
the most solid utilities i have ever come across for the 200lx! It
certainly gets my vote for induction in the Palmtop Hall of Fame as
the smallest and fastest task-swapper of all time! <g> The memory
provided by maxdos on my machine is about as 'clean' as it gets. I
have been able to consistently start just about *anything* using
maxdos...

ka> Maxdos and Dosshell and Software Carousel all use disk space as
ka> well for a swap space, adding to the woes of recovering from an
ka> enforced reboot.

I agree that the swapfile comes with a 'cost' but nothing's for free -
right? <g> The util itself eats only 10k on the disk. If you have ems
available in which to place your swapfile the enforced reboots you
describe are of no significance whatever... Without ems you may have
to remove the hidden swapfile manually after an unexpected program
termination and i'll admit it can escape unnoticed...

ka> BTW, of the menu programs, I find the one built into XTree Gold
ka> to be magnificently stable and easy to use. You can setup XTree
ka> Gold to boot from the autoexec.bat with the menu screen...

How much real estate do you give up to xtree? I have an old version and
it is very good but has a rather large footprint as far as i recall
(larger than my maxdos swapfile). :-)

ka> On the subject of running things from dos, I have a macro in
ka> sysmanager to do the More | Menu | Terminate | All | Enter faster
ka> than fingers can fly, getting you to raw dos to run whatever you
ka> please.

Fingers may really be flying indeed because maxdos is sharp enough to
cut this time in half! <g>

Maxdos takes roughly 2 secs to exit *and* reload sysmgr on my unit and
i'm sure you'll admit it is unlikely to have that speed record broken
by any utility, macro or even Donovan Bailey...<g>

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In a message dated 98-01-20 15:33:02 EST, Claud write:
<<  I want to write an Autoexec.bat file (is that redundant?) that branches,
 depending upon what I want to do:  >>

Yet another approach:

Write 3 autoexec files, named

      autoexec.age
      autoexec.sys
      autoexec.win

and 3 different config.sys files, if you have difference there.

now write 3 very simple batch files, by typing the following lines at the dos
prompt:

         copy con:age.bat
         rename autoexec.age autoexec.bat
         rename config.age config.sys  {if this is a part of your strategy}
           Z {just press the F6 key}


{i trust i can skip sys.bat and win.bat}

now, when you want to go from systems manager (say) to agenda, exit to dos,
type "age" {without the " ", of course), THEN reboot.  the autoexec and config
files which you want will be the ones you get.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:09:47 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, James P. Grenert wrote:

> Here are my results using HP-branded Sundisk (not newer Sandisk) 10
> and 20 MB flash cards in both a 1X and 2X speed 200LX:

> 2) Compared to other results presented in this list, the HP/Sundisk cards
> are not the fastest, despite being very costly.  I wish I had known this
> earlier :(

This information is very useful to me (and I suspect to others). It (the
test method) isn't as rigorous as I would like, but it's difficult to
expect everyone to have an AC adapter, or to use new batteries for the
test, or even be aware of cluster sizes and free space.

Any chance your performance was due to low batteries?

Also, take some comfort that there may still be a tradeoff. Maybe your
cards drain the batteries less than some of the fast ones.

- Longden

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I keep checking your site for new files - I haven't found Word for Windows
2 yet, but am still looking.

It looks like the site "keeps on growing and growing and growing", ...

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Sorry for the estatic exclamation but I made my own Newton keyboard and it
works! Yes, it actually works! However, instead of making a connector for the
newton keyboard's jack and the HP, I cut the keyboard's cable and fixed the hp
connector onto the cable directly -- which is what I presume Shier does, from
the pix in the HP PTP. This way, I ran the risk of wasting a keyboard entirely
(no resale value) but ended up with a shorter and less bulky cable arrangement.
I just needed to carefully check the wires to figure out which colour wire
(after you cut the main cable) leads to which point, and therefore which
synapses to make between the hp cable and the keyboard's cable.

In case any one's interested, i basically connected the wires like this
 newtonkeyboardcable hplxconnectivitycable
 1-brownwire  4-greenwire (DTR)
 4-blackwire (GND) 5-yellowwire (GND)
 5-whitewire  2-redwire (RXD)

K Adachi's comments on the wires are included above in brackets, but frankly, I
haven't a clue what he means by them tho. GND=Ground? Still, it works, it
works, it works!

Not so relevant on this thread, but since i have the info, the colour scheme
for wiring for the hp cable is as follows

  top, with the funny ridge
 5-yellow   4-green   3-brown   2-red        1-black
 0-?earth   9-gray      8-blue      7-purple   6-orange

I suggest you confirm the above with a testpen if you want to do any
engineering, no guarantee that HP doesn't change colour schemes (do people do
things like that?). I didnt bother checking every wire for the newton keyboard.

jasonyap

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Subject: YES! YES! YES!
Author:  Non-HP-Jason-YAP (Jason_YAP@MOH.GOV.SG) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    1/20/98 7:34 PM


     Hi!
     The color code is very much standard through out the electronics
     industry. I remember having to know the code for resistors etc. No we
     would not change it just to mean.


     Helmut in Colorado



  top, with the funny ridge
 5-yellow   4-green   3-brown   2-red        1-black
 0-?earth   9-gray      8-blue      7-purple   6-orange

I suggest you confirm the above with a testpen if you want to do any
engineering, no guarantee that HP doesn't change colour schemes (do people do
things like that?). I didnt bother checking every wire for the newton keyboard.

jasonyap

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:51:00 -0500
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              Ian Butler <ianrb@CASPERS.NET>
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                        Offline Usenet Reader

I am currently developing an offline news reader, much like PNR but more
rich in features and with a more pleasant interface.  It will incorporate
an index database, stored in a seperate file, for quickly switching between
different usenet groups.  It will also include a simple text interface with
windows and pull-down menus.

I can not beta-test this software on a 200LX as I don't have one (this is a
money-making project for the purchase of another.)  If there are any people
who read usenet groups on their palmtops, please let me know and I can provide
a beta version to you for testing, in a while when I get the program
completed.

The other thing I need help with is suggestions.  What do you want from a
newsreader?  Help me out.  Here's a current planned feature list:

        - Text mode windowed interface
        - Multiple newsgroups, switchable inside the reader
        - Reply text generator and automatic spawn to a seperate editor
        - Tight code, done in MoonRock for small size and better processor
          targeting (i.e. it can compile for a 186)
        - Very fast indexing of "digest" files (such as batch downloads from
          Usenet servers), similar to PNR

And if I can get enough money together, the next step will be to make it an
SMC program, which will look _nice_ on the palmtop.

Distribution: Shareware
Price (appx): $15-$20

We now return you to the standard scintillating repartee that usually inhabits
(inhibits?) this list. ;)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

"Then you have some Volkswagen come up, and does he just drive past?  No, he
stops, gets out, looks at your Rolls, and says, 'Volkswagens get 100 miles to
the gallon!  And if the fan belt breaks, you can fix it with a rubber band!'"
        -- Bill Cosby

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Date:         Tue, 20 Jan 1998 23:14:58 -0600
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Hi, Longden.
> Any chance your performance was due to low batteries?
>
Nope, the tests were done with the AC adapter plugged in.  I also tried it
with the Times2Tech NiMH batteries (which are great) and saw no
significant change.

> Also, take some comfort that there may still be a tradeoff. Maybe your
> cards drain the batteries less than some of the fast ones.
>
Yes, I really do wonder about this.  I have to say I consider my battery
life to be good, but I've never run the LX without a flash card to see how
much of a difference it makes.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 00:46:39 -0500
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   Just got a Simple Technologies 32MB ATA Flash card.  I'm very happy with
it since I think there's a noticable speed increase over my old no-name
8MB card (this I attribute, probably erroneously, mostly to the old card,
and probably somewhat to JAM, which I'm not using on the new card).
   Now, the interesting numbers:  while I formatted it I carefully stopwatch
timed how long it took to format 10% of the drive with and without the
CTRL key down:
  w/CTRL:   10% = 31 seconds  = 103k/second
  w/o CTRL: 10% = 78 seconds! =  41k/second
Hence, a the CTRL appears to give a 2.5x speed increase on my card while
formatting...

Oh re: "Then you have some Volkswagen come up, and does he just drive
past?  No, he stops, gets out, looks at your Rolls, and says,
'Volkswagens get 100 miles to the gallon!  And if the fan belt breaks,
you can fix it with a rubber band!'"
        -- Bill Cosby
Wasn't the continuation of that routine something about Bill
hypothetically meeting The Almighty and being condemned to Hell for some
sort of Darwininan-Award-like death?
:)
     G A T E S 9 9 @ M E D C O R . M C G I L L . C A
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_________________________________ Subject: YES! YES! YES!
Author:  Non-HP-Jason-YAP (Jason_YAP@MOH.GOV.SG) at
HP-ColSprings,mimegw1 Date:    1/20/98 7:34 PM
FWIW the code listed is not the standard (resistor) code that Helmut
remembers, which is in fact:

0       Black
1       Brown
2       Red
3       Orange
4       Yellow
5       Green
6       Blue
7       Purple
8       Grey
9       White

Best regds
Jez (EE many years ago!)

Hi!
The color code is very much standard through out the electronics
industry. I remember having to know the code for resistors etc. No we
would not change it just to mean.


Helmut in Colorado

5-yellow   4-green   3-brown   2-red        1-black 0-?earth
9-gray      8-blue      7-purple   6-orange

--
...All my own ever-so-humble opinions...

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Isn't that what you get when you cross Lee Iacocca with a vampire?
Jez
(sorry:-)

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 04:02:12 -0500
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I wrote a simple one many years ago which we used in a company I worked
for: it takes a script and executes the program in the script.

Give me a few days to find it, check if there are any specialities that
should be removed etc and I will email it to you. =


Jorgen
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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 07:39:32 +0100
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> Does anyone know of (price, characteristics, where to buy it) and has
> used a small battery powered printer, such as thermic printers or
> printers for CASIO calculator, which could be connected to the HP200LX ?

HP manufactures a very small battery powered printer with infra red
port.
There is a software that allows you to print the HP 200 clipboard to
this
printer.

The HP code: HP-82240B

Jan
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I am interested in purchasing 40, 64 or 128MB card for my HP. However I
have
noticed reports like this: "Be careful when using Big Flash Cards".

Can someone sumarize for me (and for the whole HP comunity) these
questions:

1. Which big flash cards should be avoided? (Manufacturer, size)
2. Which big flash cards give satisfactory performance?

Sincerely

JS
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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:05:46 -0500
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Ian, I would be very interested in the news group reader. My only
suggestion is that it allow for suppressing binaries files (such as gifs
and jegs.) and have a multiple signature file option.

Alex Arancio
Trout, Segall & Doyle LLC

Email:  store4u@troutsegall.com (business)

Lower Long Distance
Commercial - Residential
Telecom-Pros. URL:  http://www.telecom-pros.com/members/alex


-----Original Message-----
From:   Ian Butler SMTP:ianrb@CASPERS.NET
Sent:   Tuesday, January 20, 1998 10:51 PM
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Subject:        ANN: OUR Development

                        Offline Usenet Reader

I am currently developing an offline news reader, much like PNR but more
rich in features and with a more pleasant interface.  It will incorporate
an index database, stored in a seperate file, for quickly switching between
different usenet groups.  It will also include a simple text interface with
windows and pull-down menus.

I can not beta-test this software on a 200LX as I don't have one (this is a
money-making project for the purchase of another.)  If there are any people
who read usenet groups on their palmtops, please let me know and I can
provide
a beta version to you for testing, in a while when I get the program
completed.

The other thing I need help with is suggestions.  What do you want from a
newsreader?  Help me out.  Here's a current planned feature list:

        - Text mode windowed interface
        - Multiple newsgroups, switchable inside the reader
        - Reply text generator and automatic spawn to a seperate editor
        - Tight code, done in MoonRock for small size and better processor
          targeting (i.e. it can compile for a 186)
        - Very fast indexing of "digest" files (such as batch downloads
from
          Usenet servers), similar to PNR

And if I can get enough money together, the next step will be to make it an
SMC program, which will look _nice_ on the palmtop.

Distribution: Shareware
Price (appx): $15-$20

We now return you to the standard scintillating repartee that usually
inhabits
(inhibits?) this list. ;)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

"Then you have some Volkswagen come up, and does he just drive past?  No,
he
stops, gets out, looks at your Rolls, and says, 'Volkswagens get 100 miles
to
the gallon!  And if the fan belt breaks, you can fix it with a rubber
band!'"
        -- Bill Cosby

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 06:11:02 -0800
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On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Port-Home wrote:

> I am interested in purchasing 40, 64 or 128MB card for my HP. However I

So am I.

> Can someone sumarize for me (and for the whole HP comunity) these
> questions:
>
> 1. Which big flash cards should be avoided? (Manufacturer, size)
> 2. Which big flash cards give satisfactory performance?

I can only give you the relative performance figures I've gathered the
last few days from the others (for SRAM and flash, small and big).

Still unknown is the power consumption of the various cards (ie, a fast
card may turn out to cut battery life in half).

OTOH only one respondent had a drive as big as 40mb - David Sargeant, with
the 40mb MicroTech for which he got a VERY respectable time on the simple
test - he has a nice writeup on his website:
        http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/microtech.htm

I've never used one larger than 20mb (and never thought I'd actually want
more, but I do).

Let me know if you want me to email the figures which I've already posted
to the list (but now have a few updates). I was planning to re-post them
in another week or two to spare the bandwidth.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:05:53 -0600
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Now that you mention it, I think I might be loading ansi with out any
real reason.  I think procomm uses it, but it could be that I'm in some
sort of habit here. :)

>----------
>From:  Martin SebastianSMTP:marseb@GIGA.COM.AR
>Sent:  Tuesday, January 20, 1998 5:28 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
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>
>HP>Here is my AUTOEXEC.BAT, I thought you might like to see it.
>HP>device=a:\_sys\ansi.sys
>HP>Phil
>
>   Phil,
>
>   It is possible to load ansi.sys ?
>   I mean, i load it, but it seems to have no effect on the 200, that is
>   version 5.0 or later ?
>
>   I've tried 5.0, 6.0. 6.22 with no success, i don't really need it,
>   only for access to my bbs, actually i'm using telemate for dos, with
>   TTY emulation, ansy is possible but, it's very hard to see the screen
>   easily
>
>   Any help ?
>
>   Thanks
>
>   Martin
>   Marseb@giga.com.ar
>

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:27:13 +0000
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Hi,
does anyone have Excel 2.1 (as far as I heard, this is the Version, which
runs on a HP 200?) or know a site, where I can get it?
Thanks,
Axel

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:33:11 -0500
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Hi,
did someone generated with makevid the correct (CGA) screen.vid driver
for word 5.5 and 200LX?
If yes can he kindly mail it to me?
thanks


-Andrea

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Does anyone know if M/Soft's Game Shop will work on the 200?  It is a basic-
based game program.   I haven't used it in years  :-)   and found the disks
the other day.  Ideas?

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:07:41 -0800
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Shore Systems resells Viking 40Mb ATA
5.0 volt flash cards for the HP200LX. Read
and write speeds are typically up to 100%
faster than SanDisk.

                               SanDisk    Viking
Host to IF (burst)      5-6MB      10MB
Continuous                450KB      750KB

The difference has to do with the type of
controller used and SanDisk chip density.
Power consumption is comparable in 5.0
volt operation, but is lower in 3.3 volt mode.

Cost of the 40Mb cards is $325. Delivery
in US is $11 overnight. UK/$18; EU/$23;
Asia Pacific/$20.

VISA/MC accepted. Five year warranty on
cards; 30 day money back guarantee.

Contact Bernie Torbik btorbik@earthlink.net
for more info or details. We are located in
Belmont Shore, CA and cards are new,
proudly Made in USA.
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Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 06:13
Subject: Re: Question: Big Flash Cards


>On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Port-Home wrote:
>
>> I am interested in purchasing 40, 64 or 128MB card for my HP. However I
>
>So am I.
>
>> Can someone sumarize for me (and for the whole HP comunity) these
>> questions:
>>
>> 1. Which big flash cards should be avoided? (Manufacturer, size)
>> 2. Which big flash cards give satisfactory performance?
>
>I can only give you the relative performance figures I've gathered the
>last few days from the others (for SRAM and flash, small and big).
>
>Still unknown is the power consumption of the various cards (ie, a fast
>card may turn out to cut battery life in half).
>
>OTOH only one respondent had a drive as big as 40mb - David Sargeant, with
>the 40mb MicroTech for which he got a VERY respectable time on the simple
>test - he has a nice writeup on his website:
>        http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/microtech.htm
>
>I've never used one larger than 20mb (and never thought I'd actually want
>more, but I do).
>
>Let me know if you want me to email the figures which I've already posted
>to the list (but now have a few updates). I was planning to re-post them
>in another week or two to spare the bandwidth.
>
>- Longden
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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:17:35 -0800
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On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Bernard A. Torbik wrote:

> Shore Systems resells Viking 40Mb ATA 5.0 volt flash cards for the
> HP200LX. Read and write speeds are typically up to 100% faster than
> SanDisk.

> Cost of the 40Mb cards is $325. Delivery in US is $11 overnight. UK/$18;
>
> VISA/MC accepted. Five year warranty on cards; 30 day money back
> guarantee.
>
> Contact Bernie Torbik btorbik@earthlink.net for more info or details. We
> are located in Belmont Shore, CA and cards are new, proudly Made in USA.

Bernie,

I'd like to check this card of yours. Any chance I can just stop by the
shop and play with one for an hour or so?

I work in Hawthorne, CA, so I'm not that far away. I don't want to pay
shipping for something I may not buy.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:26:00 -0800
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Subject:      NSW:

Does anyone know where NSW is now?  They aren't answering their phone.  I
need to get a couple more 4MB Sandisk cards, and they were my prior
supplier.  Does anyone know where else I can get these cards?  Many thanks.

Martin

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and yelling?  Sometimes it seemed that way."
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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:56:31 -0800
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Talking about bad luck.......(:-(

Almost a year to date, my 100LX stopped working with the AC adapte.
The last time while trying to repair it, I shorted out the motherboard. It
was later replaced.

Any suggestions on how to fix this problem would be helpful.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:26:12 -0800
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On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Quinton Jones JR wrote:

> Talking about bad luck.......(:-(
>
> Almost a year to date, my 100LX stopped working with the AC adapte.
> The last time while trying to repair it, I shorted out the motherboard. It
> was later replaced.
>
> Any suggestions on how to fix this problem would be helpful.

Don't know if this is like your problem, but the last time I had my 200LX
upgraded, it came back with the AC no longer recognized. I sent it back
and they fixed it. The explanation was:

"Some of the aluminum shielding around the serial port got caught in the
AC adapter when I closed the machine the first time.  Nothing was actually
broken or had to be repaired other than moving that piece of aluminum."

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:35:39 -0600
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I just received my 4 meg upgrade from NSW today.  I had a quick question
so I called them at 1-800-566-6832 and they answered.   Took me about
5-10 minutes to do the installation and my 1 meg 200Lx is now 5meg. Best
$74 bucks I have spent recently.

Stan

Crundall, Martin - TPMHC wrote:

> Does anyone know where NSW is now?  They aren't answering their phone.  I
> need to get a couple more 4MB Sandisk cards, and they were my prior
> supplier.  Does anyone know where else I can get these cards?  Many thanks.
>
> Martin

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:40:56 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Well, you can send it to HP - their standard charge for fixing anything is
about $150, I think.  BUT, sometimes you luck out, and they repair them for
nothing, somehow charging it to warranty service, or something (mine was
replaced with a rebuilt one November of 1996 this way).  Call first.

At 10:56 AM 1/21/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Talking about bad luck.......(:-(
>
>Almost a year to date, my 100LX stopped working with the AC adapte.
>The last time while trying to repair it, I shorted out the motherboard. It
>was later replaced.
>
>Any suggestions on how to fix this problem would be helpful.
>
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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:48:39 -0500
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Could someone email me a www address where I could download Minix?

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HP>Could someone email me a www address where I could download Minix?



   The address is:  FTP.CS.VU.NL/PUB/MINIX





   Martin
   Marseb@giga.com.ar

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Jeff,
I have some older stuff (from my DOS days) I could send you. What would you
like?

Dennis

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Just talked to an individual at NSW.  He said that they are OUT OF THE HPLX
MEMORY UPGRADE BUSINESS!
They have sold the upgrade rights to another business that will be up and
running on Feb. 1, 1998.
He mentioned that the new business is being formed by some of their techs.
Their web site will be:
     http://www.marcan-dist.com

Regards,
Jim Johnson






kilgore@PYLON.PILLAR.COM on 01/21/98 02:35:39 PM

Please respond to HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu; Please respond to
      kilgore@PYLON.PILLAR.COM

To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
cc:
Subject:  Re: NSW:




I just received my 4 meg upgrade from NSW today.  I had a quick question
so I called them at 1-800-566-6832 and they answered.   Took me about
5-10 minutes to do the installation and my 1 meg 200Lx is now 5meg. Best
$74 bucks I have spent recently.
Stan
Crundall, Martin - TPMHC wrote:
> Does anyone know where NSW is now?  They aren't answering their phone.  I
> need to get a couple more 4MB Sandisk cards, and they were my prior
> supplier.  Does anyone know where else I can get these cards?  Many
thanks.
>
> Martin
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Makes their 2 year express exchange service contract for $95 look like a good deal!

--- On Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:40:56 -0800  "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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>Well, you can send it to HP - their standard charge for fixing anything is
>about $150, I think.

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_____________4:16:02 PM EST, 1/21/98_____________

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This is me yelling for help.

I need to find a way to converter the address book from the 200lx in a
format understood by Communications Center, which understands .pbd. I'm
wondering if the GDBLOAD and GDBDUMP files at Super (Mitch?) would help get
them into ascii format. If anyone can help, I'd greatly appreciate it.

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see files area
----=20

http://comports.com/hplx=A0=A0 <--old stuff is new...

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I felt like I won the lottery (as if I might know what that felt like!)
when I received it "No Charge".  The screen wouldn't stay up, the latch was
broken, etc, ...  I do, however, have that hairline fracture on the
right-back-side, just above the hinge, so, ..., but for now at least it is
barely noticeable.

At 05:08 PM 1/21/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Makes their 2 year express exchange service contract for $95 look like a
good deal!
>
>--- On Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:40:56 -0800  "Claud G. Cameron"
<cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
>wrote:
>
>>Well, you can send it to HP - their standard charge for fixing anything is
>>about $150, I think.
>
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Use the Smartclip feature to define a layout (an alternate Datacard),
example: name,date,address.  Then print to a file using the "Style"
function set to "Custom", select the Smartclip you designed and there
you go.

Phil

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>Sent:  Wednesday, January 21, 1998 4:49 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
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>
>This is me yelling for help.
>
>I need to find a way to converter the address book from the 200lx in a
>format understood by Communications Center, which understands .pbd. I'm
>wondering if the GDBLOAD and GDBDUMP files at Super (Mitch?) would help get
>them into ascii format. If anyone can help, I'd greatly appreciate it.
>
>Jay
>

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Does anyone know where I might find a copy of 'Buttonware'?
> ----------
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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:54:45 +0100
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Is this a 386 PDA?:

http://www.iclinks.com/stick.htm

Take also a look at the docs in

http://www.iclinks.com/pdflibry.htm

dealing with "PC on a Stick


               Bye
               Raf    :}~

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At 09:26 21/01/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Does anyone know where NSW is now?  They aren't answering their phone.  I
>need to get a couple more 4MB Sandisk cards, and they were my prior
>supplier.  Does anyone know where else I can get these cards?  Many thanks.

I'm having some trouble contacting them too. I placed and order and was
told that they would ship for me next monday. Now I just want to confirm
that the shipment was done, but get no email response. It's strange,
because they very very quick and nice before.. =BF?=BF?=BF

Regards. Nacho.

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James Hall wrote:
>
> Could someone email me a www address where I could download Minix?
>
The main source for Minix is: ftp.cs.vu.nl.pub.minix
I suggest that you also check: http://minix1.hampshire.edw/asw/
This is Al Woodhull's site. He is coauthor along with Andrew S.
Tanenbaum of the book, Operating Systems Design and Implementation.
These seem to be nice people who will work with you. Minix is a
Unix-like
os that will run on XT computers. Woodhull's site uses a 486 computer
running Minix which seems to prove it's stability. I strongly suggest
that
anyone who is interested buy the book. It comes with a CD-Rom that has
all of the files and documentation. I have run an earlier version on an
XT
computer and it is very impressive.

I have bought it and intend some day to install it in the HP200LX but so
far
have not had that much free time. If anyone tries this, I would like
very
much to hear your results.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Comments: To: "kilgore@PYLON.PILLAR.COM" <kilgore@PYLON.PILLAR.COM>

I think that there is a ?new? adage that if you only have money to buy more
RAM or a faster processor then it is better to opt for the RAM.  Does this
hold true on a 200LX?  I have heard a number of people talking about some
"problems" encountered with the double-speed upgrade.

Haven't heard of anyone having problems just running the RAM upgrade (is
Stan the only one out there that opted for the RAM vice the RAM and 2X
processor upgrade??).  Maybe there aren't any problems??

Ray

-----Original Message-----
From:   Stan Hall SMTP:kilgore@PYLON.PILLAR.COM
Sent:   Wednesday, January 21, 1998 14:36
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: NSW:

I just received my 4 meg upgrade from NSW today.  I had a quick question
so I called them at 1-800-566-6832 and they answered.   Took me about
5-10 minutes to do the installation and my 1 meg 200Lx is now 5meg. Best
$74 bucks I have spent recently.

Stan

Crundall, Martin - TPMHC wrote:

> Does anyone know where NSW is now?  They aren't answering their phone.  I
> need to get a couple more 4MB Sandisk cards, and they were my prior
> supplier.  Does anyone know where else I can get these cards?  Many
thanks.
>
> Martin

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On 1998-01-20 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >I want to write an Autoexec.bat file (is that redundant?) that
   >branches, depending upon what I want to do:  (1) run Agenda or
   >another program that doesn't run under the SysMgr,  (2) run SysMgr,
   >or (3) run Windows.  I know that this can be done, but lacking any
   >DOS documentation, am not clear how to go about it.  Can/would
   >someone out there give me a little shove in the right direction?
   >I'd appreciate it.
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Go to www.palmtop.net and get the batch file tips database. It has lots
of good info including a batch file technique for doing menus. It
creates a little .com file to trap keystrokes and process them using
error codes.... pretty slick.



On 1998-01-20 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >I want to write an Autoexec.bat file (is that redundant?) that
   >branches, depending upon what I want to do:  (1) run Agenda or
   >another program that doesn't run under the SysMgr,  (2) run SysMgr,
   >or (3) run Windows.  I know that this can be done, but lacking any
   >DOS documentation, am not clear how to go about it.  Can/would
   >someone out there give me a little shove in the right direction?
   >I'd appreciate it.
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Subject:      Re: Flash card test results (HP/Sundisk)

I use a Pretec 40MB card. I have found that it runs faster when holding
down the CTRL key (through someone on this group..I forget who, sorry).

I would love to know why this is and see if there's a way to write a
TSR that would accomplish the same thing.

How do you change the cluster formatting ? I'd like to experiment with
different cluster sizes.

Thanks.



On 1998-01-20 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Here are my results using HP-branded Sundisk (not newer Sandisk) 10
   >and 20 MB flash cards in both a 1X and 2X speed 200LX:
   >C:
   >1X 8.03
   >2X 5.49
   >A: (10 MB card, no compression, 1K clusters except where specified)
   >1X 19.83
   >2X 16.59 (using 4K clusters)
   >2X 15.92
   >A: (20 MB card, no compression, 1K clusters)
   >1X 20.59
   >2X 17.41
   >The take-home messages:
   >1) Size of the card in this range does not seem to make a whole lot
   >of difference.  Neither does cluster size.
   >2) Compared to other results presented in this list, the HP/Sundisk
   >cards are not the fastest, despite being very costly.  I wish I had
   >known this earlier :(
   >That said, most of my time is spent reading from the disk, so write
   >speed isn't terribly crucial, and I suspect that it is the write
   >time that constitutes most of this benchmark program.  Subjectively,
   >I don't get impatient with my LX.
   >Comments are welcome.
   >J. P. Grenert
   >grenert@mayo.edu
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I did the 4 MB upgrade from NSW.
Now I have got a useless 1 MB - Module (I upgraded an old hp200lx
2MB).
I would like to trade it for a keyboard of an old lx.
Some of my keys do not function properly any more.
Is that asking for too much ??
Perhaps any one has got something else to offer...

Regards,
Christof

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Buttonware is the name of a major shareware company in the
80's.
Their major product was PC-File, a database. It was on
Simtel for a short period, probably removed at the authors
request.
The zip totaled about 800K, so it may not fit comfortably on
the LX.

What's your need?

Jay Carlson wrote:

> Does anyone know where I might find a copy of 'Buttonware'?

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How i use the Flash card (Flash Disk 5 Mb).
I have a Hp 200 Lx.

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Jay,

I'm not sure what you are asking for - Buttonware published PC-File and if
that's what you want there is a free download site for Jim "Button" Knopf's
PC-File at

http://www.halcyon.com/knopf/jim

This is the most widely used version of this grandaddy of shareware.

The "Father of Shareware" site is interesting also - I enjoyed it and hope
you do as well.

Mike

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Does anyone know where I might find a copy of 'Buttonware'?
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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: 2X upgrade is fine (was: NSW:)

When I called NSW for a memory upgrade (I got mine at $129 :-( ) they
gave me a whole line on how the speed upgrade was bad. They claimed
that "a lot of people" had sent their palmtops to them to uninstall the
speed upgrade. They said that it causes heat problems (?). I looked at
the times2tech web page and saw their answer to these issues. I ordered
the upgrade about 2 3 months ago and have yet to regret it. It works
well and the only drawback is the need to run some low overhead TSRs.
It worked fine with the NSW upgrade.

BTW, The NSW upgrade does not include an EMM driver. I had to buy
Mack's driver when I got the 2x upgrade.


On 1998-01-21 Chainsaw@DMV.COM said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >I think that there is a ?new? adage that if you only have money to
   >buy more RAM or a faster processor then it is better to opt for the
   >RAM.  Does this hold true on a 200LX?  I have heard a number of
   >people talking about some "problems" encountered with the
   >double-speed upgrade.
   >Haven't heard of anyone having problems just running the RAM
   >upgrade (is Stan the only one out there that opted for the RAM vice
   >the RAM and 2X processor upgrade??).  Maybe there aren't any
   >problems??
   >Ray
   >-----Original Message-----
   >Sent:   Wednesday, January 21, 1998 14:36
   >I just received my 4 meg upgrade from NSW today.  I had a quick
   >question so I called them at 1-800-566-6832 and they answered.
   >Took me about 5-10 minutes to do the installation and my 1 meg
   >200Lx is now 5meg. Best $74 bucks I have spent recently.
   >Stan
   >Crundall, Martin - TPMHC wrote:
   >> Does anyone know where NSW is now?  They aren't answering their
   >>phone.  I  need to get a couple more 4MB Sandisk cards, and they
   >>were my prior  supplier.  Does anyone know where else I can get
   >these cards?  Many thanks.
   >> Martin
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In a message dated 98-01-21 20:03:40 EST, you write:

<<
 At 09:26 21/01/98 -0800, you wrote:
 >Does anyone know where NSW is now?  They aren't answering their phone.  I
 >need to get a couple more 4MB Sandisk cards, and they were my prior
 >supplier.  Does anyone know where else I can get these cards?  Many thanks.

 I'm having some trouble contacting them too. I placed and order and was
 told that they would ship for me next monday. Now I just want to confirm
 that the shipment was done, but get no email response. It's strange,
 because they very very quick and nice before.. ??
  >>

I just got my 200lx back from NSW from being upgraded. USPS really did me.
Took almost two weeks to deliver a Priority Mail package, after Christmas.
Anyway, they are alive and well. They went out of their way to help me when
the USPS couldn't even track an insured, return receipt, package.

Thanks NSW.

Dennis

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I'm sure this was accidental; but you have posted a binary file - along
with a few quotations of the prohibition against this - see below.


But worse, you also seem to be using some software from the people
who introduced WinCE <*gasp!*>.


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On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Edward A. Padin wrote:

> I use a Pretec 40MB card. I have found that it runs faster when holding
> down the CTRL key (through someone on this group..I forget who, sorry).
> I would love to know why this is and see if there's a way to write a
> TSR that would accomplish the same thing.

I talked to a technician at Pretec today.  He stated that all new flash
cards come with this "feature," a low-power mode that is only disabled by
holding down the shift key (or any other key, when I asked him.)  I asked
if there was any way to turn off the power-saving mode, and he said no,
the only way to disable it was to hold down a key.  He said that most
people would rather save battery power than have high-performance, so they
don't let you disable it.

Needless to say, I am pretty upset about this.  I don't know if there's
any TSR that can be written, but it sure would be a boon to the palmtop
community...

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-----Original Message-----
From:   David Sargeant SMTP:istate@COYOTE.ACCESSNV.COM
Sent:   Thursday, January 22, 1998 1:40 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: Flash card test results (HP/Sundisk)

I talked to a technician at Pretec today.  He stated that all new flash
cards come with this "feature," a low-power mode that is only disabled by
holding down the shift key (or any other key, when I asked him.)  I asked

Will using an AC adapter help?

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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 1998 23:46:34 -0800
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              David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
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Bryan Pearson wrote:
> Will using an AC adapter help?

Nope.  Using the AC adapter makes no difference, and neither does
disabling light sleep on the palmtop...
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Ray said:

I think that there is a ?new? adage that if you only have money to buy
more RAM or a faster processor then it is better to opt for the RAM.
Does this hold true on a 200LX?

Jez replies:

I think this adage comes thanks to Windows which makes high demands on
RAM and frequently has to swap to virtual memory on hard-disk.  So speed
is greatly increased on a Windows PC by having enough RAM to avoid such
swapping.  Probably also true if you are running some other sort of
multiple-session (DOS) environment.

However, if you are not running Windows and you don't have a hard-disk,
then the increase in RAM has no effect on the performance.

I think the real interest in increasing memory in an hp200lx is for
increased storage of files and applications while keeping the PCMCIA
slot free for a modem (otherwise a flash memory card is the best bet).

Best regds
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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:36:03 +0100
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              Frank Ubachs <ubachs@XS4ALL.NL>
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I just received my 4 meg upgrade from NSW today.  I had a quick question
so I called them at 1-800-566-6832 and they answered.   Took me about
5-10 minutes to do the installation and my 1 meg 200Lx is now 5meg. Best
$74 bucks I have spent recently.

Stan,

Could you tell me how difficult it is to install this upgrade? Does it need
soldering? I would be interested if I would be sure I could do it myself.

Thanks

Frank

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 02:53:35 -0600
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              kilgore@PYLON.PILLAR.COM
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Frank Ubachs wrote:

> Stan,
>
> Could you tell me how difficult it is to install this upgrade? Does it need
> soldering? I would be interested if I would be sure I could do it myself.

   It depends on the if you have the connector on the motherboard.
Despite the fact that my 1meg 200lx shouldn't have had the connector, it
did.  I was told that it must have been repaired by HP and the
motherboard was replaced.  You will need to check your motherboard or
call and ask NSW, as they are more aware of what should and shouldn't
have the connector.  If you have the connector you just need to
carefully open the case and gently push the upgrade into the connector,
all done.  If you don't have the connector you have to do some precise
soldering, which doesn't seem like fun at all.

   NSW will do the upgrade for no additional charge, but you better call
quick, because it sounds like they are getting out of the HP memory
upgrade business and supplies were limited when I ordered mine.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:24:46 +0100
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HP 700LX (GSM communicator)
Brand new with full HP warranty.

Jan
e-mail me at mailto:mail@port-home.com

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 06:54:35 -0500
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Just talked to an individual at NSW.  He said that they are OUT OF THE HPLX
MEMORY UPGRADE BUSINESS!
They have sold the upgrade rights to another business that will be up and
running on Feb. 1, 1998.
He mentioned that the new business is being formed by some of their techs.
Their web site will be:
     http://www.marcan-dist.com

Regards,
Jim Johnson

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:56:39 -0600
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              "Michael R. Melancon" <melancon@PRYSM.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Various Abandonware Site
Comments: To: Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>

Hi Brendan

I'm not sure you are talking about my post, but in case you are - I would
appreciate anybody's help in correcting whatever I am doing wrong.   - when
I look at one of my posts, there doesn't appear to be anything different -
no gobbledygook - just the post (along with the extra don't post binaries
on the one last night -- sorry for not trimming the extra out)

Unfortunately I am using what came free with my computer and it IS from the
dreaded Microsloth corp.  It is Windows Messaging 4.0 -

Sorry for the aggravation - if this one is bad as well.  I wouldn't mind
changing mail programs, or making adjustments to the one I am using if
anybody has any recommendations.

Thanks

Mike Melancon
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From:   Brendan Macmillan
Sent:   Wednesday, January 21, 1998 11:25 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: Various Abandonware Site

I'm sure this was accidental; but you have posted a binary file - along
with a few quotations of the prohibition against this - see below.


But worse, you also seem to be using some software from the people
who introduced WinCE <*gasp!*>.

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              David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
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Michael R. Melancon wrote:
>
> Hi Brendan
>
> I'm not sure you are talking about my post, but in case you are - I would
> appreciate anybody's help in correcting whatever I am doing wrong.   - when
> I look at one of my posts, there doesn't appear to be anything different -
> no gobbledygook - just the post (along with the extra don't post binaries
> on the one last night -- sorry for not trimming the extra out)

It was your post he's talking about.  It seems that Windows Messaging
(along with other Microsoft Products?  I'm not certain) attaches a
WINMAIL.DAT file to each message.  Though this is a little off-topic,
does anybody know how to change that?
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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:13:54 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Subject:      Binary droppings (was Re: Various Abandonware Site)
Comments: To: "Michael R. Melancon" <melancon@PRYSM.NET>
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Michael,

1) He was talking about your post
2) Your last note (quoted below) also had a binary added on.

This issue has been brought up before, especially in the NetTamer list
group. There's apparently a setting in the MS email software (I forget
which and where that setting is) whose default results in the sending of a
normal note along with the same text note uuencoded into a binary.

Someone with more Email savvy than me may be able to elaborate. In the
meantime, look around your email system's settings. You can email me
directly if you want to experiment.

- Longden

On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Michael R. Melancon wrote:

> Hi Brendan
>
> I'm not sure you are talking about my post, but in case you are - I would
> appreciate anybody's help in correcting whatever I am doing wrong.   - when
> I look at one of my posts, there doesn't appear to be anything different -
> no gobbledygook - just the post (along with the extra don't post binaries
> on the one last night -- sorry for not trimming the extra out)
>
> Unfortunately I am using what came free with my computer and it IS from the
> dreaded Microsloth corp.  It is Windows Messaging 4.0 -
>
> Sorry for the aggravation - if this one is bad as well.  I wouldn't mind
> changing mail programs, or making adjustments to the one I am using if
> anybody has any recommendations.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:19:48 -0500
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              "Souza, Mr Stephen" <ssouza@CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL>
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Subject:      Re: Binary droppings (was Re: Various Abandonware Site)
Comments: To: "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

Yes, for each internet address you need to turn off sending Microsoft
rich text.

Stephen Souza
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Longden C. Loo SMTP:lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 1998 10:14 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Binary droppings (was Re: Various Abandonware Site)
>
> Michael,
>
> 1) He was talking about your post
> 2) Your last note (quoted below) also had a binary added on.
>
> This issue has been brought up before, especially in the NetTamer list
> group. There's apparently a setting in the MS email software (I forget
> which and where that setting is) whose default results in the sending
> of a
> normal note along with the same text note uuencoded into a binary.
>
> Someone with more Email savvy than me may be able to elaborate. In the
> meantime, look around your email system's settings. You can email me
> directly if you want to experiment.
>
> - Longden
>
> On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Michael R. Melancon wrote:
>
> > Hi Brendan
> >
> > I'm not sure you are talking about my post, but in case you are - I
> would
> > appreciate anybody's help in correcting whatever I am doing wrong.
> - when
> > I look at one of my posts, there doesn't appear to be anything
> different -
> > no gobbledygook - just the post (along with the extra don't post
> binaries
> > on the one last night -- sorry for not trimming the extra out)
> >
> > Unfortunately I am using what came free with my computer and it IS
> from the
> > dreaded Microsloth corp.  It is Windows Messaging 4.0 -
> >
> > Sorry for the aggravation - if this one is bad as well.  I wouldn't
> mind
> > changing mail programs, or making adjustments to the one I am using
> if
> > anybody has any recommendations.
>
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              BDK Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
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Hi David, (and list)
Pure speculation...
    Gee, is that even possible? Is there a special driver for this
card or something? Aren't you using the built-in HP200 driver
to access the card? How could the card 'know" that you
are holding down a key? Something on the bus? Hmmm.
What is I stuck the card in another device like a digital
camera? How would the card "know". Maybe there is
some kind of CPU active signal on the PCMCIA bus,
I guess I don't know enough about PCMCIA. Maybe
someone else can comment. What could the card
possibly be sensing on the PCMCIA bus. Couldn't this
be a problem for devices like digital cameras that
have a maximum allowed write time? Could the
card just be sensing how fast you are writing to it,
and since the HP200 is so slow it keeps going
to "sleep" to save power and has to "wake up"
over and over? Must be a property of the
controller used by the card.


-Bryan




David Sargeant wrote:
I talked to a technician at Pretec today.  He stated that all new flash

> cards come with this "feature," a low-power mode that is only disabled by
> holding down the shift key (or any other key, when I asked him.)  I asked
> if there was any way to turn off the power-saving mode, and he said no,
> the only way to disable it was to hold down a key.  He said that most
> people would rather save battery power than have high-performance, so they
> don't let you disable it.
>

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:05:16 -0300
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From:         Martin Sebastian <marseb@GIGA.COM.AR>
Subject:      Fax software

Hi all!


I tried to download "hpfax108.zip" from ftp.palmtop.net, but i'm getting
the error "bad zip file" when trying to unzip it.

BTW, i'm getting the error with all the zip files from there... :(


If anyone is using the program, can you make me a favour, and email it
to me ?

It's better than the Minifax software (built-in on the Exp Card) ?


Thanks !


Martin
Marseb@giga.com.ar

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              Sean Hoger <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
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Interesting.  I use m$ Outlook Express, and I _don't_ see any binaries
attached to Michael's mail!  Strange.  I do get files that are attached
intentionally.  Maybe it has something to do with Outlook Express.

>1) He was talking about your post
>2) Your last note (quoted below) also had a binary added on.
>
>This issue has been brought up before, especially in the NetTamer list
>group. There's apparently a setting in the MS email software (I forget
>which and where that setting is) whose default results in the sending of a
>normal note along with the same text note uuencoded into a binary.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:09:59 -0800
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Mike, thanks for that post on the father of shareware. I enjoyed the site! Its
nice to see that shareware is still alive and kicking.



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              Chris England <cengland@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Class3Dep wrote:
>
> Jeff,
> I have some older stuff (from my DOS days) I could send you. What would you
> like?
>
> Dennis
>
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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:10:46 -0800
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              David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
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BDK Biggers wrote:
>
> Hi David, (and list)
> Pure speculation...
>     Gee, is that even possible? Is there a special driver for this
> card or something? Aren't you using the built-in HP200 driver
> to access the card? How could the card 'know" that you
> are holding down a key? Something on the bus? Hmmm.

It's just a standard ATA flash card.  No special drivers.  I really have
no idea how it senses when a key is held down... which is why the Pretec
guy's explanation seems bizarre, although it does accurately describe
the situation..
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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:18:47 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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I went to Radio Shack and in addition to some other junk, I got one of
these infrared sensor cards (cat# 276-1099).  It shows operation of
infrared devices like TV remotes and IR lasers and such stuff.  What it
does not show is any "action" from the palmtop's IR port.  I know my
port is working because it will "talk" to my other palmtop just like
always.  The reason for all this jabber is, how come the palmtop will
"talk" to a TV (with "remote.something")?  It would seem that if the
little card won't show emission from the palmtop, but shows emission
from a TV remote, then the wavelength that the emitter in the palmtop
generates must be somewhat different from the TV remote... would it make
sense to exchange the emitter in the palmtop for one in the same
frequency band as the TV?

Another thought provoking post from the basement.  :)

Phil

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On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Phil Drummond wrote:
> little card won't show emission from the palmtop, but shows emission
> from a TV remote, then the wavelength that the emitter in the palmtop
> generates must be somewhat different from the TV remote... would it make
> sense to exchange the emitter in the palmtop for one in the same
> frequency band as the TV?

The frequency of the IR transmission is software controlled, not hardware
controlled.  It sounds like you were testing the IR card by having the
palmtop try to connect to another palmtop or with the comm program.

If you set up rc to control your tv, I'll be the card would see the
palmtop's output when you tried to control the tv.


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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:43:57 -0600
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This thing is not that "smart".  All it is composed of is phosphor, like
that found in night-vision devices.  The wavelength it responds to is a
function of the phosphor's "natural" reaction to infrared light.  It
"can't know" the baud rate or information content of the flashing LED.

Phil

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>
>The frequency of the IR transmission is software controlled, not hardware
>controlled.  It sounds like you were testing the IR card by having the
>palmtop try to connect to another palmtop or with the comm program.
>
>If you set up rc to control your tv, I'll be the card would see the
>palmtop's output when you tried to control the tv.
>

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:07:13 -0600
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The Radio Shack sensor may not have sufficient sensitivity to detect
the output from the LX. The LX's IR output is much less than most TV
remotes. It is an issue of intensity of the IR output and *not*
emitter/receiver frequency.


On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Phil Drummond wrote:

> I went to Radio Shack and in addition to some other junk, I got one of
> these infrared sensor cards (cat# 276-1099).  It shows operation of
> infrared devices like TV remotes and IR lasers and such stuff.  What it
> does not show is any "action" from the palmtop's IR port.  I know my
> port is working because it will "talk" to my other palmtop just like
> always.  The reason for all this jabber is, how come the palmtop will
> "talk" to a TV (with "remote.something")?  It would seem that if the
> little card won't show emission from the palmtop, but shows emission
> from a TV remote, then the wavelength that the emitter in the palmtop
> generates must be somewhat different from the TV remote... would it make
> sense to exchange the emitter in the palmtop for one in the same
> frequency band as the TV?
>
> Another thought provoking post from the basement.  :)
>
> Phil
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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:20:36 -0600
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I think you might be right.  TV remotes work through lightweight
blankets, dirty lenses, dusty receiver windows, and the like.  It did
not occur to me that the HP's output would be very low with respect to a
TV remote.

Do any of you know of a method to actually measure the light frequency
of something like an infrared LED?

Phil

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>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
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>
>The Radio Shack sensor may not have sufficient sensitivity to detect
>the output from the LX. The LX's IR output is much less than most TV
>remotes. It is an issue of intensity of the IR output and *not*
>emitter/receiver frequency.
>
>

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:23:26 +0100
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I'm using the EXP - Thinfax 1414LXM with built in 4Mb Flash memory to send
fax and e-mail. The 4Mb would be enough for me to exchange files with the
Laptop. In respond of my inquiry 'EXP' wrote me the card would not work
with WIN95. I only could access the modem but not the flash memory with my
latop/win95.
Has anybody else experience with this issue?

- Juerg

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:33:41 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Just use your trusty night vision goggles <G>.

At 12:20 PM 1/22/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I think you might be right.  TV remotes work through lightweight
>blankets, dirty lenses, dusty receiver windows, and the like.  It did
>not occur to me that the HP's output would be very low with respect to a
>TV remote.
>
>Do any of you know of a method to actually measure the light frequency
>of something like an infrared LED?
>
>Phil
>
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>>From:  Steve SpelbringSMTP:steves@plexus.com
>>Sent:  Thursday, January 22, 1998 12:07 PM
>>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>>Subject:       Re: Infrared stuff.
>>
>>The Radio Shack sensor may not have sufficient sensitivity to detect
>>the output from the LX. The LX's IR output is much less than most TV
>>remotes. It is an issue of intensity of the IR output and *not*
>>emitter/receiver frequency.
>>
>>
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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:43:55 -0600
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On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Phil Drummond wrote:

>
> Do any of you know of a method to actually measure the light frequency
> of something like an infrared LED?
>
> Phil


If you had access to an IR spectrometer you could block the
source, place the LX in the samle compartment, direct the
output toward the spectrometer's detector, and collect a spectrum.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:10:34 -0600
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None but to say, been there found that out.   I have an old 386 running
Workgroups for DOS in my home network.  I mounted a PCMCIA card dock in
it and with it my EXP card now shows as a network drive under W95.  Long
hard solution, but when a vendor won't provide compatibility, you gotta
do something.

Phil

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>From:  Juerg DuerigSMTP:duerig@USA.NET
>Sent:  Thursday, January 22, 1998 12:23 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Thinfax 1414LXM - 4Mb Flash memory
>
>I'm using the EXP - Thinfax 1414LXM with built in 4Mb Flash memory to send
>fax and e-mail. The 4Mb would be enough for me to exchange files with the
>Laptop. In respond of my inquiry 'EXP' wrote me the card would not work
>with WIN95. I only could access the modem but not the flash memory with my
>latop/win95.
>Has anybody else experience with this issue?
>
>- Juerg
>

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:44:53 +0000
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Just got IS for DOS latest version and installed it on the HP200LX.

Great programme for my "information management and manipulation" needs.

The only probs I'm having are below. Any ideas? Manual hasn't come yet.
Micro Logic e-mailed me the .exe prog file to get going as mail to UK is
a week.

Typeface too small. is there a way of enlarging the base font? I know
you can zoom and either scroll around the screen or go into edit mode
but it feels wrong.

I've adjusted to reasonable mono settings in setup and applied these by
using

Xtra
Colour

in the programme. But, I'd like the current window in normal with a
black shadow frame around it. Can't get that. Can only get a light grey
shadow.

I'm looking forward to using this neat programme provided it doesn't
mess my eyesight up.

I managed to import all phone numbers, notes and databases from the
HP200LX built - in PIM using smartclip with a -- field at the end, then
using the split command in IS. This tip was posted on the HPLX mailing
group recently.

Thanks

Dr Peter Maddern
Product Developer
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:46:37 +1300
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On 1998-01-22 duerig@usa.net said to HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
   >I'm using the EXP - Thinfax 1414LXM with built in 4Mb Flash memory
   >to send fax and e-mail. The 4Mb would be enough for me to exchange
   >files with the Laptop. In respond of my inquiry 'EXP' wrote me the
   >card would not work with WIN95. I only could access the modem but
   >not the flash memory with my latop/win95.
   >Has anybody else experience with this issue?
   >- Juerg

You may have to re-boot 95 to "Dos" and install the drivers for
the card in dos, copy the relevant parts of the config.sys and
autoexec.bat and when back in 95 run sysedit to paste them in.

95 will come up with a message on restart of unrecognised dos
drivers that may cause incompatibility, but this is usually just
because they are not listed in the 95 5meg knowall database of
all the hard/software that Big Bill says you can use...

Excuse me if this is a little thin on detail, I run 95 only when
I "Have" to, preferring 3.11 or dos. I use a dual-boot, or a boot
disk to go straight to 3.11 or simply move the 95 startup files
to disable it's control of "my" machine.

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:43:28 EST
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Text of message from pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK, 22 Jan 1998, 01:44 PM
>...
> Typeface too small. is there a way of enlarging the base font? I know
> you can zoom and either scroll around the screen or go into edit mode
> but it feels wrong.

I agree the font is a bit small when zoomed to full screen.  I guess you
get used to it and zoom in when necessary...

>
> I've adjusted to reasonable mono settings in setup and applied these by
> using
>
> Xtra
> Colour
>
> in the programme. But, I'd like the current window in normal with a
> black shadow frame around it. Can't get that. Can only get a light grey
> shadow.

There's a configuration utility called setup.exe that gives you many
more options (takes some trial and error).

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:05:16 -0500
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Get the latest from the author himself at www.qfax.com
It works very well, and looks like a built-in HP app.

On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Martin Sebastian wrote:

> Hi all!
>
>
> I tried to download "hpfax108.zip" from ftp.palmtop.net, but i'm getting
> the error "bad zip file" when trying to unzip it.
>
> BTW, i'm getting the error with all the zip files from there... :(
>
>
> If anyone is using the program, can you make me a favour, and email it
> to me ?
>
> It's better than the Minifax software (built-in on the Exp Card) ?
>
>
> Thanks !
>
>
> Martin
> Marseb@giga.com.ar
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HP>Get the latest from the author himself at www.qfax.com
HP>It works very well, and looks like a built-in HP app.

   Thanks for the info !


   Martin
   Marseb@giga.com.ar

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:16:47 -0500
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On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Raffaele Gaioni wrote:

> Is this a 386 PDA?:
>
> http://www.iclinks.com/stick.htm

No.  It's a single-board computer motherboard, usually used in embedded
applications.  It lacks keyboard, screen, power source, case, etc.  A
palmtop could be built around it, though.


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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:33:36 -0500
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From:         Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Greetings:

FWIW:

The now famous "1mB read/write benchmark" on my 2x-8mB 200LX w/
EXP1414LXM 4mB

(all measurements are n=3D3)

   "UnSTACked"

        c:\.....2.53
        f:\.....15.3s

   Run on a "STACked" disk:

        c:\.....41.3s (Ouch!)
        f:\.....68.9s


I am running STACker 4.1, and my compression averages ~2:1. I value=
 the
space more than speed. Actually, the only time I notice a major wait=
 is
loading my APPT.ADB or using MEMO to search a text file. If I have a
big file to search, I use Vern Buerg's LIST which runs pretty quick.

Cheers,

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:20:09 -0800
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I'm in the process (sort of; today I got interrupted by an attack of
blindness which, after much panic, was identified as nothing serious, just
a bad migraine headache) of writing a benchmark for the 200LX, the C
drive, and the A drive.  It'll calculate your speed, then use your speed
to adjust the rating of the flash card.  In that way, we can figure out
how they'll probably perform on any given system.

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On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Al Kind wrote:

> The now famous "1mB read/write benchmark" on my 2x-8mB 200LX w/
> EXP1414LXM 4mB
>
>    "UnSTACked"
>         c:\.....2.53
>    Run on a "STACked" disk:
>         c:\.....41.3s (Ouch!)

Congrats Al!

I do believe you now have the record for both the fastest AND the slowest
internal drive...and on the same machine! <g>.

Were you running from inside/outside SysMgr....AC/battery.

Jorgen Dybdahl got a significant slow-down on his C drive when it was down
to 214K and improved about 35% after freeing space (to 341k). Any chance
your slow Stacked C drive may have been full (of something?).

- Longden

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In-Reply-To:  <01BD2713.B050F740@ts3-p2.shv.prysm.net> from "Michael R.
              Melancon" at Jan 22, 98 08:56:39 am
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Hi Mike,

> I'm not sure you are talking about my post, but in case you are - I would
> appreciate anybody's help in correcting whatever I am doing wrong.   - when
> I look at one of my posts, there doesn't appear to be anything different -
> no gobbledygook - just the post (along with the extra don't post binaries
> on the one last night -- sorry for not trimming the extra out)

I've replied without trimming the gobbledygook, so you can see what I'm
talking about.

I'm sure it's Windows Messaging 4.0 feature - hopefully there is
an option somewhere that you can turn off. My guess is that
the gobbledygook contains your email, with rich formatting - one
way to get around this might be to save your email as ASCII. Maybe then
the software would realise that it need not send the rich formatting
version.... but just a guess.

> Unfortunately I am using what came free with my computer and it IS from the
> dreaded Microsloth corp.  It is Windows Messaging 4.0 -
>
> Sorry for the aggravation - if this one is bad as well.  I wouldn't mind
> changing mail programs, or making adjustments to the one I am using if
> anybody has any recommendations.

The prohibition against binary files is to keep the memory usage down -
many read the list on their palmtops! This present email, for example,
is not terribly long - but you'd best find out how to do something
about it.



PS The last person to post binaries to this list got mercilessly
flamed for a week! But he didn't have your good attitude about it.  :)

BTW the  "begin 600"  indicates the gobbledygook is uuencoded.

>
> Thanks
>
> Mike Melancon
> ----------
> From:   Brendan Macmillan
> Sent:   Wednesday, January 21, 1998 11:25 PM
> To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:        Re: Various Abandonware Site
>
> I'm sure this was accidental; but you have posted a binary file - along
> with a few quotations of the prohibition against this - see below.
>
>
> But worse, you also seem to be using some software from the people
> who introduced WinCE <*gasp!*>.
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Whoops! Sorry guys and gals
Forget to edit the return header...

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In-Reply-To:  <c=US%a=_%p=PageNet%l=NTHOU01-980122182036Z-554@pagenet.com> from
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>
> TV remotes work through lightweight blankets, dirty lenses, dusty
> receiver windows, and the like.
This is one full-on TV watcher! :)


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Hello everyone,
      I've had the hp200lx for about a year now and I am still finding
ways to use it (thanks to everyone on this list). I have just started to
use gdbload to transfer info from Paradox (and other databases) to the
gdb format. One problem I have is getting a run time error or null
pointer (can't remember exactly right now), I've worked around it by
breaking the files in to smaller chunks. My questions is has anybody had
trouble using gdbload (or gdbdump) in relation to file size. I was
trying to import a 400,000 byte database file and it would not take it.
It also created a nearly 350,000 byte file called (name of
database).new  and I tried to open this *.new file. On one occasion it
wanted a password (my database files aren't password protected) and
another time it simply couldn't open file. I tried rename *.new
extention to *.gdb to no avail.
Anyway, I would be curious to know list's experience with this program.
Thanks,
         Terry Livingston

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Subject:      Re: File Copy "benchmark" on STACked LX
Comments: To: David Sargeant <davidsa@accessnv.com>
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On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> I'm in the process (sort of; today I got interrupted by an attack of
> blindness which, after much panic, was identified as nothing serious, just
> a bad migraine headache) of writing a benchmark for the 200LX, the C
> drive, and the A drive.  It'll calculate your speed, then use your speed
> to adjust the rating of the flash card.  In that way, we can figure out
> how they'll probably perform on any given system.

Good going Dave.

Maybe the program can also interrogate the drive and the LX for:
- use of AC/battery
- battery level (if used)
- amount of free space left on disk
- cluster size
- use of compression
- speed rating of the system (double crystal or turbo boosted or normal)

And ask the user for:
- their name
- whether they're running in/out of SysMgr
- the make/model of the card
- and for David Sargeant, ask whether he's holding down the Ctrl key

And then bundle that info together with the results into a few neat lines,
ready for email.

Is that asking too much?  Sorry about your migraines, hope this doesn't
add to it.

- Longden

PS It'd be darned nice if you could also report on the power consumption
to the card during the reads/writes...dunno if this or any of the above is
possible....but that's my wish list!

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On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Terry Livingston wrote:

> use gdbload to transfer info from Paradox (and other databases) to the
> gdb format. One problem I have is getting a run time error or null
> pointer (can't remember exactly right now), I've worked around it by
> breaking the files in to smaller chunks. My questions is has anybody had
> trouble using gdbload (or gdbdump) in relation to file size. I was

Yes. I had the same problem. Got ambigous error messages too.

> trying to import a 400,000 byte database file and it would not take it.
> It also created a nearly 350,000 byte file called (name of
> database).new  and I tried to open this *.new file. On one occasion it
> wanted a password (my database files aren't password protected) and
> another time it simply couldn't open file. I tried rename *.new
> extention to *.gdb to no avail.

My workaround was to take the CSV file, which is simply organized with 1
record per line into a text editor capable of handling it (not necessarily
on the LX, tho I did use the calvin editor), and split the file. I think I
needed to copy the first line onto the other sections as this is a field
descriptor of sorts.

Alternatively, you can dump smaller chunks from Paradox...but do it in
pieces cuz looks like gdbload does have size limits.

Have you had any success at all (ie, with smaller pieces). The gdb created
by gdbload will show an error on opening that is handled using F6 to
redefine subsets (this is mentioned in their doc).

- Longden

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Longden C. Loo wrote:
> Maybe the program can also interrogate the drive and the LX for:
> - use of AC/battery
> - battery level (if used)
> - amount of free space left on disk
> - cluster size
> - use of compression
> - speed rating of the system (double crystal or turbo boosted or normal)
> And ask the user for:
> - their name
> - whether they're running in/out of SysMgr
> - the make/model of the card
> - and for David Sargeant, ask whether he's holding down the Ctrl key

Well, at least some of those functions are possible.  Some of them will
require me to use PAL functions, potentially increasing the size of the
final file.  But it's probably worth it.

> And then bundle that info together with the results into a few neat lines,
> ready for email.

A standard report file would be good.  The output will be written to a
file, of course; I'll come up with a format.

> PS It'd be darned nice if you could also report on the power consumption
> to the card during the reads/writes...dunno if this or any of the above is
> possible....but that's my wish list!

Don't know about that one.  The only way I know to do that is check the
voltage during the test, which would decrease the speed rating...
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From:         "Ken A. Moore" <KenAMoore@OMNITRAINING.COM>
Subject:      Re: NSW:

I have been following the discussion about the do-it-yourself upgrade kit with interest. With all the talk about the future of NSW and the desire to upgrade the speed and memory of the LX, I thought perhaps I can post some soldering rework instructions on our company web site. If there is an interest and someone will provide the part type, ie. QFP, SOIC, etc. (including the lead pitch, assuming we're talking about SMT, Surface Mount Technology) of the components involved in the upgrade, I will be happy to post rework instructions relating to soldering on the internet.
I am the Training Manager for Omni Training Corp, a soldering training company and would be happy to share my expertise in this area.
Sincerely,
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On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> > PS It'd be darned nice if you could also report on the power consumption
> > to the card during the reads/writes...dunno if this or any of the above is
> > possible....but that's my wish list!
>
> Don't know about that one.  The only way I know to do that is check the
> voltage during the test, which would decrease the speed rating...

Do it after the speed test...maybe while the user is being dazzled by your
output report!

We just need power figure for basic read/write .... don't really need it
for the duration of the speed test.

- Longden

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Perhaps I could measure the voltage at the beginning, do maybe 60 seconds
of solid writing, and then measure it again right after.  And maybe the
same thing for the reading.

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In response to Chris England wanting Stacker, I say, *again*, go and get
yourself Caldera DR-OpenDOS.  (http://www.caldera.com/)  It has Stacker 3.12
in it, along with Personal NetWare and a host of good stuff for use with
or on the palmtop.

Have fun...

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
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Vector M12: The best sports car $118,000 can buy.  On the other hand,
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I've finally replaced awk with perl - literally, as this palmtop isn't
big enough for the both of them. (see SUPER)

However, commandline filename wildcards aren't being expanded:

        perl script.pl *.c
doesn't work! It's version 4.0 and I have perlglob.exe in my path.
This is fundamental to my use of awk... if perl is to replace it in
use as well as bits, it must be able to do this. Any ideas?


Someone on this list commended perl to me - where art thou?
PS I did ask on the perl newsgroup; but the basic suggestion was to
upgrade to version 5.0

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You can easily add a couple of lines of code at the begining of your
script.pl to handle every file in the dir or *.c or whatever. Or was that
too obvious?

Nedim.

At 12:32 PM 1/23/98 +1100, you wrote:
>I've finally replaced awk with perl - literally, as this palmtop isn't
>big enough for the both of them. (see SUPER)
>
>However, commandline filename wildcards aren't being expanded:
>
>        perl script.pl *.c
>doesn't work! It's version 4.0 and I have perlglob.exe in my path.
>This is fundamental to my use of awk... if perl is to replace it in
>use as well as bits, it must be able to do this. Any ideas?
>
>
>Someone on this list commended perl to me - where art thou?
>PS I did ask on the perl newsgroup; but the basic suggestion was to
>upgrade to version 5.0
>
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Hi Terry, Et. al.:

        On Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:19:24 -0800, you wrote on HPLX-L,

> ...
> One problem I have is getting a run time error or
> nullpointer (can't remember exactly right now), I've worked around
> it by breaking the files in to smaller chunks. My questions is has
> anybody had trouble using gdbload (or gdbdump) in relation
> to file size...

Just had a similar problem with a 3 field (two text, one numeric) comma
delimited file ~175kB. I broke up the DB into 2500 record chunks and
GBLOAD worked just fine ( entire file was about 5400 lines). I then
merged the files.

It turned out that my 175kB file turned into a >300kB .gdb file. In=
 my
case, I found it more efficient to presort the file by one of the
fields and store as a .TXT, then use the FIND in Vern Buerg's LIST to
search the records. In DB it took > 1 min to find a particular entry,
but LIST took ~10s to find the same entry. Not as versitle, but much
faster. (yes, it was on a STACked c:\ volume).

Cheers,

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On Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:59:11 -0800,
        "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
                 wrote on HPLX-L:

> Were you running from inside/outside SysMgr....AC/battery.
>
> Jorgen Dybdahl got a significant slow-down on his C drive when
> it was down
> to 214K and improved about 35% after freeing space (to 341k).
> Any chance
> your slow Stacked C drive may have been full (of something?).

I ran the experiment on AC. I had everything purged when I ran
"unSTACked" as I had deleted my STACVOL.DSK and also removed the
STACKER.SYS driver from RAM.

I ran the experiment from DOS outside of SysMgr.

When I ran "STACked" , my C:\ was about 40% full (according to
check /d) and my f:\ was about 80% used.

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Phil Drummond wrote:
>
> I went to Radio Shack and in addition to some other junk, I got one of
> these infrared sensor cards (cat# 276-1099).  It shows operation of
> infrared devices like TV remotes and IR lasers and such stuff.  What it
> does not show is any "action" from the palmtop's IR port.  I know my
> port is working because it will "talk" to my other palmtop just like
> always.  The reason for all this jabber is, how come the palmtop will
> "talk" to a TV (with "remote.something")?  It would seem that if the
> little card won't show emission from the palmtop, but shows emission
> from a TV remote, then the wavelength that the emitter in the palmtop
> generates must be somewhat different from the TV remote... would it make
> sense to exchange the emitter in the palmtop for one in the same
> frequency band as the TV?
>
Not a good idea! Your reasoning is very correct. However, you don't take
into consideration that the TV remote control is specifically designed
to operate the TV receiver from across the room. When I was in charge of
remote control for a big TV maker, the minimum acceptable distance was 8
meters. (Say 25 feet).The HP200LX is designed to send data a distance of
say two feet. The quantity of light is much less but the frequency is
probably very close. I am anxious to get into this whole IR port
question
but I won't have time for some weeks. Motorola gives the frequency of
their IR transmitting devices as 940, 850 nm. and one device at 660 nm.
The 660 nm. part is unusual and would probably not be used.

Best regards

Art Borg

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David Kramer wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Phil Drummond wrote:
> > little card won't show emission from the palmtop, but shows emission
> > from a TV remote, then the wavelength that the emitter in the palmtop
> > generates must be somewhat different from the TV remote... would it make
> > sense to exchange the emitter in the palmtop for one in the same
> > frequency band as the TV?
>
> The frequency of the IR transmission is software controlled, not hardware
> controlled.  It sounds like you were testing the IR card by having the
> palmtop try to connect to another palmtop or with the comm program.
>
> If you set up rc to control your tv, I'll be the card would see the
> palmtop's output when you tried to control the tv.
>
Too many different frequencies here. The first frequency is the
frequency of
the IR light which is controlled by the material in the diode. The
second
frequency which is often called the 'carrier frequency' and is usually
around
40+ Khz. This is controlled by software. The third frequency is the data
rate which is controlled by the UART and this is set up by the user when
the
serial port is set to a particular baud rate.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Phil Drummond wrote:
>
> I think you might be right.  TV remotes work through lightweight
> blankets, dirty lenses, dusty receiver windows, and the like.  It did
> not occur to me that the HP's output would be very low with respect to a
> TV remote.
>
> Do any of you know of a method to actually measure the light frequency
> of something like an infrared LED?
>
> Phil
>
There are several ways to do this. The easiest is to look at the IR
transmitting
device, see who made it, and look up his data sheet. Other ways include
generating
the spectrum of the device and measuring it. This is less convenient
with an IR
device as you need a very sensitive IR device or IR sensitive film and a
suitable
optical bench.

Best regards,

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> You can easily add a couple of lines of code at the begining of your
> script.pl to handle every file in the dir or *.c or whatever. Or was that
> too obvious?

Hmmm... I tried it; couldn't get that to work either - how would *you*
do it? Perhaps I'm missing something? BTW,

        while (<*>) {print;}
doesn't work; nor
        while (<*.c>) {print;}

Also, I'd like to be able to specify the files from the command line -
        perl prog.pl *.dat

I suppose I could just read in the args, and use that in the while loop




I'm a bit frustrated at it all, because the Camel book goes on about
how wonderful and easy-to-use perl is compared with awk; but this is
pretty fundamental stuff, isn't it? I mean, I could do all this in
awk much more easily (or C, for that matter!)
Oh well, glad I got that off my chest!








> Nedim.
>
> At 12:32 PM 1/23/98 +1100, you wrote:
> >I've finally replaced awk with perl - literally, as this palmtop isn't
> >big enough for the both of them. (see SUPER)
> >
> >However, commandline filename wildcards aren't being expanded:
> >
> >        perl script.pl *.c
> >doesn't work! It's version 4.0 and I have perlglob.exe in my path.
> >This is fundamental to my use of awk... if perl is to replace it in
> >use as well as bits, it must be able to do this. Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >Someone on this list commended perl to me - where art thou?
> >PS I did ask on the perl newsgroup; but the basic suggestion was to
> >upgrade to version 5.0
> >
> >--
> >Brendan Macmillan
>
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I just downloaded it from http://comports.com/hplx
I think its great ! For me it closes the gap between Derive and
Lotus.
BUT...
I haven't worked with it before so I need any kind of
documentation/help. Is anything of that kind available on the net ?
And is the version 2.5 the latest that works flawlessly on the lx ?

Regards,
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On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:
> I've finally replaced awk with perl - literally, as this palmtop isn't
> big enough for the both of them. (see SUPER)
Good move.  Perl can do anything awk can do.  I use it all day.

> However, commandline filename wildcards aren't being expanded:
>
>         perl script.pl *.c
> doesn't work! It's version 4.0 and I have perlglob.exe in my path.
> This is fundamental to my use of awk... if perl is to replace it in
> use as well as bits, it must be able to do this. Any ideas?
I tried it, and it worked for me.  I tried
perl -e "while($ARGV0) {print(\"$ARGV0\n\"); shift;}" *.*
and
perl test.pl *.*
Is it possible that perlglob.exe has to be in the same directory as
perl.exe?  Is yours?  Try typing
perlglob.exe *.*
Does it list all files in the current directory?  If not, perlglob.exe is
not really in your path.

I have perl version 4.0.1.6 path level 19.

> Someone on this list commended perl to me - where art thou?
Coulda been me.  I push it a lot.

> PS I did ask on the perl newsgroup; but the basic suggestion was to
> upgrade to version 5.0
They'll do that.  But it won't work.

Email me if you have more problems.


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I have one of the leftover 1mb boards also. Let me know if you actually
find a use for it. I'd bewilling to give it away for free to someone
who can actually use it. (They pay shipping, of course)


On 1998-01-21 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >I did the 4 MB upgrade from NSW.
   >Now I have got a useless 1 MB - Module (I upgraded an old hp200lx
   >2MB).
   >I would like to trade it for a keyboard of an old lx.
   >Some of my keys do not function properly any more.
   >Is that asking for too much ??
   >Perhaps any one has got something else to offer...
   >Regards,
   >Christof
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> On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:
> > I've finally replaced awk with perl - literally, as this palmtop isn't
> > big enough for the both of them. (see SUPER)
> Good move.  Perl can do anything awk can do.  I use it all day.

> > However, commandline filename wildcards aren't being expanded:
> >
> >         perl script.pl *.c
> > doesn't work! It's version 4.0 and I have perlglob.exe in my path.
> I tried it, and it worked for me.  I tried

> perl -e "while($ARGV0) {print(\"$ARGV0\n\"); shift;}" *.*
This just prints:
        *.*

If reboot with no TSR's, it does the same.

> Is it possible that perlglob.exe has to be in the same directory as
> perl.exe?  Is yours?  Try typing

> perlglob.exe *.*
> Does it list all files in the current directory?  If not, perlglob.exe is
> not really in your path.
That works! At last a little success!! But the above stuff still doesn't
work :(


> I have perl version 4.0.1.6 path level 19.
My one is exactly the same!! (from SUPER)

> > PS I did ask on the perl newsgroup; but the basic suggestion was to
> > upgrade to version 5.0
> They'll do that.  But it won't work.
>
> Email me if you have more problems.
I'll take you up on that!!

Hmmm.. what is different about mine?


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On 1998-01-22 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >I have been following the discussion about the do-it-yourself
<Snip>
   >I am the Training Manager for Omni Training Corp, a soldering
   >training company and would be happy to share my expertise in this
   >Sincerely, Ken Moore www.OmniTraining.com

Nice offer. I for one, am keen to see the dissemination of as
much knowledge about things as the band-with can take! I am
interested in the Hardware, the software, the interface and the
usage others make of the palmtop.

On a totally different subject, how did the rest of the group's
members individual mail programs handle Ken's post? Nettamer will
not see out to 575 columns, but at least doesn't cut them off!
(so one can load the email into another editor to see what's "Out
there")

I gather from the header, it was sent from Post/LX, is this the
integrated emailer with WWW/LX? The only editor I have/Use that
will see these long lines is PalEdit, by A.Garzotto, author of
WWW/LX.

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Subject:      Re: Using gdbload
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>
> Have you had any success at all (ie, with smaller pieces). The gdb created
> by gdbload will show an error on opening that is handled using F6 to
> redefine subsets (this is mentioned in their doc).
>
>
>
Hi Longden,
    I knew about having to use F6 to reindex subsets. Looks like we had
the same problem. I did find out that some of the error messages helped
in that they located a problem line.  For example when I got a
gdb(120)-******** error message, I could go to line 120 and delete below
that. Then gdbload would take the file. I could then make another file
using the clipped lines below line 120 and see how far that would go
before getting another error.
I wonder if anybody has a list of what the error messages mean. It might
help to know what "run time error" or "null pointer" or "not enough
fields" actually mean. Maybe someone or the author (Steve Roth ? ) could
publish a list. The docs are pretty slim. Thanks for your input.
                                  Terry Livingston

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Date:         Thu, 22 Jan 1998 22:49:35 -0800
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I just started a circuit design course that requires the use of SPICE or
PSPICE software.  I've searched the web but have been unable to find a
version that will run on the 200LX.  I've seen such a product for the
48GX, I believe, so there must be one that will run on the 200LX.  Does
anybody know of one?
--
Enter to win upgrades for the 200LX palmtop computer at
http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 03:46:38 -0500
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<off topic mode> sorry to get off topic; i'm in a bit of a bind as i am i=
n
syria w/no
 www access.  perhaps some kind soul could help me with some info.  i rtn=
'd
a pc card modem =

w/lifetime warranty to piiceon co. along with a letter explaining my
circumstances.  it was sent =

back to me in my envelope with only a yellow "post it" note attached to i=
t
(pretty cheesy if you ask =

me) saying "rtn to sender.  not auth to rtn product.  pls contact your
sales rep for auth number."  =

great customer service, eh? i don't have a sales rep to contact - bought =
it
in the states and i can't =

recall from who exactly.  even though  i explained the fact i'm not in th=
e
usa  and  can't just pick =

up the phone (@$2/min) to go through endless voice mail loops.  So can
anyone give me the name =

of the president or ceo of piiceon or maybe an email address?  i want to
write him a letter and rtn the =

thing directly to him.   =

many thanks,
tom =

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-----Message d'origine-----
De : David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
=C0 : HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date : vendredi 23 janvier 1998 07:50
Objet : Version of SPICE for 200LX?


>I just started a circuit design course that requires the use of SPICE or
>PSPICE software.  I've searched the web but have been unable to find a
>version that will run on the 200LX.  I've seen such a product for the
>48GX, I believe, so there must be one that will run on the 200LX.  Does
>anybody know of one?
>--

I had the same need a few years ago. I finally decided to use an old demo
version of PSpice. It works... but you have to write by yourself the circ=
uit
description file instead of using one of these nice circuit drawing tool.=
 On
the other hand this way, if not the most efficient, is the most formative.
Drop me a line if you're interested in that spartan tool, I could try exh=
ume
it...

Pierre

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:04:08 +0100
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|Hi all!
|
|
|I tried to download "hpfax108.zip" from ftp.palmtop.net, but i'm getting
|the error "bad zip file" when trying to unzip it.
|
|BTW, i'm getting the error with all the zip files from there... :(
|
|
>I have been hoping to get to use Qfax on my palmtop, too. I currently have
>version 1.10 installed and everything works fine, except for the final -
and
>crucial - bit. It converts my file to fax format, dials in and gets
>connected at 9600 baud, I can even see the fax number I am connected to. So
>far so good. But the I get a short message: cannot..... DCN (to quickly to
>be able read  it) and my modem disconnects. I have set the waiting time at
>180.
>
>Do you know what might be going wrong here? Qfax is just too good to be
true;
>so I'm dying to use it.
>
>Thanks
>
>Frank

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From:         Darren Frick <DFrick@MAIL.SNIP.NET>
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Couls it be possible to jack up the strength of the 200lx's IR port by
just replacing the LED w/ a "bigger" one, or would the circuitry have to
actually drive it harder?

I'd think we could all stand to have a more powerful emitter.

Darren.
---------------------------
Phil Drummond wrote:
>
> I think you might be right.  TV remotes work through lightweight
> blankets, dirty lenses, dusty receiver windows, and the like.  It did
> not occur to me that the HP's output would be very low with respect to a
> TV remote.
>
> Do any of you know of a method to actually measure the light frequency
> of something like an infrared LED?

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:21:51 -0500
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              Phil Godden <Phil_Godden@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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CompuServe has added a new service called "C" that includes POP3 e-mail.
Can this be used in any way with the built in cc:Mail? =


The cost of C -- free for now and then expected to be less than $10 per
month. And it includes 500 forums - not sure if HP is one.

Phil Godden

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 22:21:17 +0800
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From:         C P Wong <cpwong@TM.NET.MY>
Subject:      E-Mail reading WAS Line length, 575!!!
Comments: To: katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ

Dear all,

I was able to read all of the mail as I'm running D-Mail. The reader
is configurable, rather, you choose your ascii editor as your viewer,
editor and print.

On a D-Mail subject, I apologise for not able to reply ANY mails
because my wife just delivered our second child (imagine the amount
of running around with red sleepy eyes).

However, I resolve to put out all info including my D-Mail config. on
a web page. Currently I'm doing up the first page with netscape (I'm
admit I'm a very newbie to html programming).

Also, I will put up a web page on my half hour "change clock speed"
job that I've done on my 200LX. Now, it reported by LXCTRL to be 10.5M
Hz.
I basically change the original crystal to a 24MHz one. I couldn't fin
d
one that is 32MHz. I probably source for one locally when I have 2 hou
rs o
r so to "kill".

Give me a couple of days and I'll announce here the url address. (I've
got a week off; it's Chinese New Year in a week's time.

See you guys around and to all reader's of Chinese origin:

        "Happy (palmtopping) and Properous New Year"

c p wong
>
>Nice offer. I for one, am keen to see the dissemination of as
>much knowledge about things as the band-with can take! I am
>interested in the Hardware, the software, the interface and the
>usage others make of the palmtop.
>
+--------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
| cpwong@tm.net.my   | Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia                        |
| cpwong@acer.com.my |                                               |
| cpwong@w3xs.com    | Using D-Mail v2.2 on HP200LX                  |
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->Still unknown is the power consumption of the various cards (ie, a fast
->card may turn out to cut battery life in half).

Anyone have any experience with the Bernie Torbik Viking CF cards that use
an adapter?

Jeff


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David Sargeant wrote:
>
> I just started a circuit design course that requires the use of SPICE or
> PSPICE software.  I've searched the web but have been unable to find a
> version that will run on the 200LX.  I've seen such a product for the
> 48GX, I believe, so there must be one that will run on the 200LX.  Does
> anybody know of one?
> --
I have a book "Spice for Circuits and Electronics Using PSpice" by
Prentice-Hall.
The author is Muhammad H. Rashid. It is ISBN 0-13-834680-1 and includes
a limited
version of Spice that should run on the 200LX although I have not tried
it. I
use "The Student Edition of Micro-Cap III" which is similar and also
limited.
It is ISBN 0-201-50606-8 for the package with the 3.5 inch disk. It is
also available just as a manual or with a 5 1/4 inch disk. Ask your
professor if either of these would be adequate for your needs.

Best Regards,

Art Borg

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On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Darren Frick wrote:

> Couls it be possible to jack up the strength of the 200lx's IR port by
> just replacing the LED w/ a "bigger" one, or would the circuitry have to
> actually drive it harder?
>
> I'd think we could all stand to have a more powerful emitter.
There are several devices on the market for extending the range of
infrared remotes.  the "Leapfrog" unit comes to mind first.  An IR-to-RF
box attaches to the front of the remote (or palmtop), and a RF-to-IR unit
sits facing the equipment.  It's so crazy it just may work!


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On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Jeff Malka wrote:

> ->Still unknown is the power consumption of the various cards (ie, a fast
> ->card may turn out to cut battery life in half).
>
> Anyone have any experience with the Bernie Torbik Viking CF cards that use
> an adapter?

As soon as I wrap up some things at work (in the next couple of days), I
was planning on dropping in on Bernie at Belmont Shores to try out their
cards. I was mostly interested in 40mb, but I may look at the 32mb CF
also.

I use my PC card modem daily, and I wondered if the daily card-in/card-out
routine might be a bit stressful for a mechanical adapter.

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 17:03:26 +0100
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I had the exact same problem and thought it related to using my specific
modem (Simple Tech 33.6 Cellular).  What type of modem are you using?  I
wonder if this could be related to version 1.10?  We would appreciate if
anyone else could chime in as to their experience with any version of Qfax
as well as modems used successfull?

I emailed David Sargeant offline, thinking it was my modem, since he has a
review of the Simple Tech modem on his web page.  Thankfully, he is
investigating the problem as well since I am inadequate to understand
beyond simple trial and error.


Jeff,

I am using a SMART fax/modem/menory card (2400/9600) and have tried several
versions of Qfax. Same problem every time. I also tried my pocket modem
(14K4), no change.

Hope we can trace the origin of this trouble.

Regards

Frank

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As a lawyer I often find it useful to load laws and agreements into my
200 LX ( 2MB RAM and a 40 MB ATA flash card). However a lot of the law
and agreements are to large (500 Kb or more) to easily fit into the
text-editor (Memo). I presume that the text would more easily fit into
the Note-taker (*.ndb) ot the Database (*.gdb), but need a simple
program to convert text-files (*.doc) to these formats. Can anybody help
?
.... or suggest a better way to handle large text-files on the HP?

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On 1998-01-23 gjostein@hbc-law.no said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >As a lawyer I often find it useful to load laws and agreements into
   >my 200 LX ( 2MB RAM and a 40 MB ATA flash card). However a lot of
   >the law and agreements are to large (500 Kb or more) to easily fit
   >into the text-editor (Memo). I presume that the text would more
   >easily fit into the Note-taker (*.ndb) ot the Database (*.gdb), but
   >need a simple program to convert text-files (*.doc) to these
   >formats. Can anybody help ?
   >..... or suggest a better way to handle large text-files on the HP?

I use between two and four different programs to handle large
text files. Unfortunately, .y card space is two 5meg SanDisk
cards (I'm a poor student who dreams of the vastness of 40meg!)
so I have to regularly swap programs out to a directory on the PC
at home and replace them with another as space is always at a
premium for me.

The first program I would suggest to anyone looking to work with
lang documents is Pal Edit (available from S.U.P.E.R and
www.dasoft.com)

This is written by the amazing Andreas Garzotto, author of WWW/LX
PalEdit, Spell for PalEdit HV the Html viewer for the LXand other
neat programs specifically written for the LX.

PalEdit is written in Palmtop Application Language, and so it has
the "Look" of the built-in apps, especially Memo, but it
out-strips Memo in sheer performance as it is a raw dos program.
It runs best from dos with as much memory as it can get, but also
runs just dandy in sysmanager with a meager 100k assigned to it.
The "Search" function deserves special mention as it is feeding
your key-presses in as the are entered, sometimes finding the
first instance of the desired word before the whole thing has
been typed!


Paledit will happily open files that Memo will give a memory
error trying, but if you really want to use it with big files,
you will have to experiment with the amount of memory you assign
it to balance it's performance with the ability to cut and paste
to and from sysmanager apps.

PalEdit also eats memo for breakfast when it comes to Multiple
files. You can start it with couple of wildcards (*.txt *.doc)
and it will load all the txt and doc files in the directory it is
called from. Or, you can make a file list for files to open. You
can flick through documents open in one direction, or you can
open a dialog box to see what is open and select the file you
want.

End of Advertorial for PalEdit!

The next wonder-editor is Dexter, also on S.U.P.E.R

Dexter is designed for programmer's to open several listings and
swap between them and be able to search all open files and even
(Get This!) a file-list of up to 615 files!!!

You can even search and replace through the file list. I was
doing som editing of html's the other day, Memo took 15 minutes
to search and replace some type 3.0 code with type 2.0 so I
switched to Dexter.

I replaced the same codes in EIGHT files in TWO minutes...

Need I say more?

The other programs I often load onto my cards are Word for dos
version 5.0 and Word for Windows 1.1

Both of these are full-on desktop publishing capable programs
with more functionality than you can shake a stick at! Word 5.0
for dos is my pick of the range 1.0-6.0 for dos as it has the
most features and is fully compatible with the LX screen. 5.5 and
6.0 are graphical and there are problems in getting colors to
work and visibility suffers.

The spell check and Thesaurus alone are worth the hassle of
getting these programs!

Word eats PalEdit and Dexter when it comes time to print, having
SCORES of printer drivers and best of all, Print Preview! The
text is greeked but wysiwyg! Of course, graphics are supported
and columns and styles and macros and mail-merge and
importing/exporting different word processor formats and
spreadsheet data.

And then there is Word for Windows, what can I say about this
that everybody doesn't know? I run Windows 2.0 for the best
compromise of size vs efficiency and Word of course will cut and
paste to and from all the windows apps and also Excel

These options I have placed in ascending complexity/difficulty,
so PalEdit you could have running in seconds, Word for Windows
will take an afternoon (or two!) to setup.

Hope this helps.

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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I have a new Infotel 14.4 k baud pocket modem (well, new to me), but don't
have a command reference.  I'd like to run it QUIETLY, because I often use
it early in the morning to collect e-mail.  Can someone help me out by
maybe suggesting some init strings I can use that will turn off the speaker
(before dialing)?

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:00:23 -0800
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On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> I have a new Infotel 14.4 k baud pocket modem (well, new to me), but don't
> have a command reference.  I'd like to run it QUIETLY, because I often use
> it early in the morning to collect e-mail.  Can someone help me out by
> maybe suggesting some init strings I can use that will turn off the speaker
> (before dialing)?

Unless the modem has an internal speaker, you should be able to just turn
off the volume to the palmtop's speaker (in setup, or via LXPro, or a host
of other volume-setting utilities.)  If the modem DOES have a speaker,
ATL0 will turn the volume off.

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Dear all,

been following the abandonware posts and have been searching my old 5.25
disk tray.....

Found (sorry about this) Microsoft's Project Ver 4.00

Sent it off to Jeff and it now appears on:

        ftp://ftp.scott.net/pub/users/jeffj/

Not sure what the demand is, I've also got Multimate, WP5.1 and Symphony!

Let me know and possibly Jeff can be kind enough to put some more up?
(Thanks Jeff).

I've downloaded windows3.0, unzipped into subdirectories and loaded from there
and all works fine on the flash in A: (ha who needs CE).
Install size is 4.1MB tho! I've seen somewhere what is really needed so may
trim it a bit.

I've got a serial mouse working but can't find a driver for a Ballpoint. Any
kind soul have a Microsoft Ballpoint Driver he could mail me?? TIA

Long live the 200, especially with "Abandonware"!

Dave

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:27:33 -0500
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> On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Darren Frick wrote:

> Could it be possible to jack up the strength of the 200lx's IR port by...

<snip>

> There are several devices on the market for extending the range of
infrared remotes...
sits facing the equipment.  It's so crazy it just may work!

It is this kind of thinking that not only makes this a great list to
subscribe to, and the HP a great machine to own...but it also makes
technology move along at the pace that it does. You people truly impress
the #&!! out of me. Please keep us posted.


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I sent this information directly to Andreas a few days ago but I thought
I would post it here as well.  I have been unsuccessful in getting
Post/LX to work (WWWLX works fine).  These are the screen prompts:

Dialing
Sending Password
Starting PPP
Starting PPP Negotiation
Negotiating LCP
Negotiating IPCP

Waiting for response from POP Server
(Scanning for messages)
Authentication Failed!

I have never been able to read a single message.  Is it my provider or
the mail server?  I have checked the configuration many times and can
find nothing out of the ordinary.

Ideas?

Jim

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Well, I better start downloading, while nobody complains about this
software ;->

I don't remember seeing Win 1.x EVER.

Thanks a bunch this is great idea. I think I will be able to scrape up
something from my attic's floppy section.

Nedim.

At 09:18 PM 1/23/98 +0000, you wrote:
>Dear all,
>
>been following the abandonware posts and have been searching my old 5.25
>disk tray.....
>
>Found (sorry about this) Microsoft's Project Ver 4.00
>
>Sent it off to Jeff and it now appears on:
>
>        ftp://ftp.scott.net/pub/users/jeffj/
>
>Not sure what the demand is, I've also got Multimate, WP5.1 and Symphony!
>
>Let me know and possibly Jeff can be kind enough to put some more up?
>(Thanks Jeff).
>
>I've downloaded windows3.0, unzipped into subdirectories and loaded from
there
>and all works fine on the flash in A: (ha who needs CE).
>Install size is 4.1MB tho! I've seen somewhere what is really needed so may
>trim it a bit.
>
>I've got a serial mouse working but can't find a driver for a Ballpoint. Any
>kind soul have a Microsoft Ballpoint Driver he could mail me?? TIA
>
>Long live the 200, especially with "Abandonware"!
>
>Dave
>
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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:03:59 -0800
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>Is it my provider or the mail server?

NEITHER!  I am at the same point in getting mine to run.  I bought my copy
in mid-November, received it December 2, and have only this week gotten
WWW.EXE to run (and only after getting the zipped program file from a
friend - apparently, mine was corrupt).  Now, WWW.EXE connects fine, but I
get "POP3 Password failed" as the error message.  I've been able to send
messages, but like you, haven't received a single one.  I think the problem
is with the program, especially since you seem to be having the same
problem on a different ISP.

Good luck getting in touch with these guys.  I've sent a few e-mails to
Andreas while I chased the wrong problem.  I thought the problem was the
script, but it turned out to be a bad program diskette, which they have not
replaced yet.  At any rate, all I could get from Andreas was that my
problem was forwarded to D&A.  And, as you may know, getting D&A to help is
like "pulling hen's teeth", as my father says.  And the bad part is that
the program 'looks' like a very useful one (of course, all I've been able
to do is LOOK at the e-mail portion).

At 04:48 PM 1/23/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I sent this information directly to Andreas a few days ago but I thought
>I would post it here as well.  I have been unsuccessful in getting
>Post/LX to work (WWWLX works fine).  These are the screen prompts:
>
>Dialing
>Sending Password
>Starting PPP
>Starting PPP Negotiation
>Negotiating LCP
>Negotiating IPCP
>
>Waiting for response from POP Server
>(Scanning for messages)
>Authentication Failed!
>

Except for 'Authentication Failed!', I get the same response.

>I have never been able to read a single message.  Is it my provider or
>the mail server?  I have checked the configuration many times and can
>find nothing out of the ordinary.
>

If you get yours to work, PLEASE let me know how you did it.

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Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:24:34 +1300 (NZDT)

03h14m08s ago ...
On Fri, 23 Jan 1998 19:10:26 +0000 (GMT), Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> >Is it my provider or the mail server?
>
> NEITHER!  I am at the same point in getting mine to run.

Claud, all I can offer is a guess that at netcom they have an *email
password* that is different to the "PPP password". Can you check your
Eudora *ini* file for a clue?

Regards, Tony

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->As soon as I wrap up some things at work (in the next couple of days),
->I was planning on dropping in on Bernie at Belmont Shores to try out
->their cards. I was mostly interested in 40mb, but I may look at the
->32mb CF also.

Great.  I too am interested in the 40+ card.  That way I may be able to
use it unstacked avoid the slowdown caused by Stacker.

Jeff


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I've always used the M command, as in

ATM0 speaker off
ATM1 speaker on until carrier received
ATM2 speaker on
ATM3 speaker off while dialing then on until carrier received

---j

John Stafford -- http://pw2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.html --
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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:12:30 -0800
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At 10:35 PM 1/23/98 GMT, you wrote:
>
>Claud, all I can offer is a guess that at netcom they have an *email
>password* that is different to the "PPP password". Can you check your
>Eudora *ini* file for a clue?
>

No, I log onto Netcom with the same password I use for Eudora.  The only
possible problem I can think of is that my password contains upper and
lower-case letters, but then again, WWW.EXE handles that part fine.  I have
never seen a password error when Eudora logs into the SMTP.

Please don't misunderstand me.  I think that WWW.EXE, and Post/LX, etc.,
are great programs, and that Andreas did a fantastic job writing it.  The
WWW part is fast, and browses well.  I'm not complaining about the
programs, only the technical support, which has been non-existent.  I've
sent numerous e-mails and some faxes and voice-mails to D&A.  The only help
in writing the PPP script, which I was told was the problem, was a post
that someone not connected with D&A sent me.  D&A forwarded a copy of a PPP
script, which was a response to a question I posted to the HPLX-list
myself.  I had already tried it long before he sent it.  I spent a good six
weeks (in the evenings) chasing the 'script' problem, as others on the list
can attest to.  I even chased a SLIP script, which if someone is interested
in, I will forward to them (it works also, now).  Then, out of desparation,
I convinced someone to send me their ZIP file from their original
diskettes.  Once I unpacked these and installed them onto my A-drive,
WWW.EXE connected in less than 20 seconds.  NOW, I'm running into this
'POP3 Password Failed' error message!

>Regards, Tony

Thanks for trying to help!

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 18:31:45 -0800
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Hi, all.

I have just special ordered a 32.000 Mhz crystal from Radio Shack...

Part No. 10068377 for $7 Shipped. I do not know the shape of the thing,
but I don't think it really matters as long as it will fit inside the
case.
Really, I would like to know if anyone has drivers for a 32 Mhz crystal
they could e-mail me. I understand the ones by Times-2-Tech are not
free, but that there are free ones out there. I have a set, but the
instructions are in Japanese.

Now for the interesting part. I have heard of triple speed 200lx's out
there, and the 48.000 Mhz crystal is also only $7. I would absolutly do
the upgrade as long as I could get the appropriate drivers!!!

But I guess I'll concentrate on 32 Mhz for now.

Thanks, Darren.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 17:11:53 -0800
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I have a free 31 and 32mhz driver up on my web site.  The docs are in
Japanese, but it's just a device driver.  I think it's linked somewhere in
http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/inside.htm

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 18:33:43 -0500
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At 03:17 PM 1/23/98 -0800, you wrote:
>I've always used the M command, as in
>
>ATM0 speaker off
>ATM1 speaker on until carrier received
>ATM2 speaker on
>ATM3 speaker off while dialing then on until carrier received

I just turn the volume down on mine:

ATL0

That was I can hear it connect but it's not obnoxious.
Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 18:37:47 EST
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Darren,
I don't think you will have any problems with the crystal but I'm not sure.
It's been a while, but here goes....the crystal is not a freestanding
component. It is electrically a circuit (with resistance, capacitance, and
inductance) that interfaces with a larger circuit. What I am trying to convey
is...based on my 2-Way Radio experience only, the crystal may not oscillate
(or do so without stability) due to different capacitance/inductance
parameters.

Whew! Please ignore the above if it works. :-)

Dennis

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 23:53:04 GMT
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Claud,

I am out of ideas, but perhaps someone else here using POST/LX with
netcom in the USA can help.There is no authentication when contacting
SMTP, only when contacting POP3. If you have the correct POP3 Login and
POP3 Password in your mailbox setup and you get the "authentication
failed" message then maybe netcom are using some new form of
authentication?

Could be a spelling error, but I doubt it :(

Normally you wouldn't get that far if the numeric IP address of the
POP3 server were different to what is in www.cac ... but, you never
know - have you tried deteling c:\_dat\www.cac?

Regards, Tony

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Hello All,
First I would like to say thanks to all that assisted me with my quest in
using a digital camera with my HP200LX.  Now I have another brainteaser for
those who are knowledgeable about PCMCIA cards.

The Type I PCMCIA card using  AIMS (a form of auto-indexing) is used by
Ricoh's RDC-1 digital camera (an absolute marvel in technology!).  There are
only Windows and Mac drivers.  Excuse my naivete, but would it possible to
modify a Windows driver (aims.mpd) to a Dos driver?  I guess what I am
wondering is if this could be something really simple to modify.

Ricoh has this software at http://www.ricohcpg.com/utilsdownloads.html   I am
thinking that the Windows 3.1 drivers could be modified.  Alas, I am not a
programmer but I got this funny feeling...

I emailed Phoenix Technology who originally created the software drivers for
aims.mpd but have yet to get a response.

I was told that this Type I AIMS card could not be read by the HP200LX because
of the lack of DOS drivers.

Any help is always appreciated,

Robin
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At 06:37 PM 1/23/98 EST, you wrote:
>Darren,
>I don't think you will have any problems with the crystal but I'm not sure.
>It's been a while, but here goes....the crystal is not a freestanding
>component. It is electrically a circuit (with resistance, capacitance, and
>inductance) that interfaces with a larger circuit. What I am trying to convey
>is...based on my 2-Way Radio experience only, the crystal may not oscillate
>(or do so without stability) due to different capacitance/inductance
>parameters.
>
>Whew! Please ignore the above if it works. :-)

Here's another problem for going over 32 MHz.  I understand the 700LX uses
a double-speed Hornet chip.  The problem is speeds above that.  You can run
into the problem of overclocking the chip if you go to high.  Overclocking
won't zap the Hornet... immediately.  Instead, it warms up the connectors
inside
the casing, which are made of bimetal.  When they warm up, they'll seperate
from the Hornet chip itself, which is bad.  Eventually (after a period of
a year or so) one of those connectors breaks off due to metal fatigue.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I remember after an episode of
a local vendor unknowingly released overclocked 386's some years ago.

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

Vector M12: The best sports car $118,000 can buy.  On the other hand,
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RGBROWN wrote:
>
> Hello All,
> First I would like to say thanks to all that assisted me with my quest in
> using a digital camera with my HP200LX.  Now I have another brainteaser for
> those who are knowledgeable about PCMCIA cards.
>
> The Type I PCMCIA card using  AIMS (a form of auto-indexing) is used by
> Ricoh's RDC-1 digital camera (an absolute marvel in technology!).  There are
> only Windows and Mac drivers.  Excuse my naivete, but would it possible to
> modify a Windows driver (aims.mpd) to a Dos driver?  I guess what I am
> wondering is if this could be something really simple to modify.
>
> Ricoh has this software at http://www.ricohcpg.com/utilsdownloads.html   I am
> thinking that the Windows 3.1 drivers could be modified.  Alas, I am not a
> programmer but I got this funny feeling...
>
> I emailed Phoenix Technology who originally created the software drivers for
> aims.mpd but have yet to get a response.
>
> I was told that this Type I AIMS card could not be read by the HP200LX because
> of the lack of DOS drivers.
>
> Any help is always appreciated,
>
> Robin
> email:  RGBROWN@aol.com
>

I'm posting this to the group, Robin - in-case someone tells me I'm
wrong, but I'm under the impression that the 200lx works with type 1 & 2
cards. If I were in your shoes I'd just plug it in and try to access it
(not that I'm telling you to or anything<g>)

Darren.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:23:14 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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At 11:53 PM 1/23/98 GMT, you wrote:
>Claud,
>
>I am out of ideas, but perhaps someone else here using POST/LX with
>netcom in the USA can help.There is no authentication when contacting
>SMTP, only when contacting POP3. If you have the correct POP3 Login and
>POP3 Password in your mailbox setup and you get the "authentication
>failed" message then maybe netcom are using some new form of
>authentication?

Well, I think I talked with all three or so who do or did use Netcom with
WWW/LX while trying to write the script, which turned out to be a waste of
time and effort.

>
>Could be a spelling error, but I doubt it :(
>

Thought of that.  Re-did SETUP.EXE three times previously, and a fourth
today at lunch (that is, deleted the old one and started SETUP.EXE again).
I think I'm becomming obsessive about this, ...

>Normally you wouldn't get that far if the numeric IP address of the
>POP3 server were different to what is in www.cac ... but, you never
>know - have you tried deteling c:\_dat\www.cac?

I tried that during lunch today, also.  Well, wait a minute - I directed
the program to store www.cac in a:\www\dat, so let me have a look, ...
nope, not there (c:\_dat, that is).

>
>Regards, Tony
>
>
>

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David Kramer wrote:
>
> On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Darren Frick wrote:
>
> > Couls it be possible to jack up the strength of the 200lx's IR port by
> > just replacing the LED w/ a "bigger" one, or would the circuitry have to
> > actually drive it harder?
> >
> > I'd think we could all stand to have a more powerful emitter.
> There are several devices on the market for extending the range of
> infrared remotes.  the "Leapfrog" unit comes to mind first.  An IR-to-RF
> box attaches to the front of the remote (or palmtop), and a RF-to-IR unit
> sits facing the equipment.  It's so crazy it just may work!
>
At the job that pays me money, I am designing something vaguely similar
to
that. Will let everyone know if there is something interesting. I still
think that there is some promise in IR. One thought that lingers in the
back
of my mind is the statement that I think I read in the FAQ is that as a
TV
remote control device, the 95LX is much better than the 100-200LX. As I
have
both here, it would not be a complex thing to find the difference and
see if
it could be changed.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Claud G. Cameron wrote:
>
> >Is it my provider or the mail server?
>
> NEITHER!  I am at the same point in getting mine to run.  I bought my copy
> in mid-November, received it December 2, and have only this week gotten
> WWW.EXE to run (and only after getting the zipped program file from a
> friend - apparently, mine was corrupt).  Now, WWW.EXE connects fine, but I
> get "POP3 Password failed" as the error message.  I've been able to send
> messages, but like you, haven't received a single one.  I think the problem
> is with the program, especially since you seem to be having the same
> problem on a different ISP.
>
This may be a little bit off topic but it may help. When I first started
using
OS/2, I ran into a similar problem. I could log onto my ISP but it would
not
recognise my mail password. I checked with my ISP and they had no
information
relative to OS/2. Finally for no apparent reason, but probably due to
some
change at the ISP I began to be able to use the OS/2 mail program but
not the
mail program on Netscape for OS/2.

I later got a more suitable computer for OS/2 and was completely unable
to make
a PPP connection with all of the same software. I then got Injoy to use
as my
dialer and that works fine. Except the other night, I got a mail
password not
recognised. However, I was able to write and send a mail message. The
next
morning my password was suddenly OK.

I doubt if there is anyone around that could give a completely
satisfactory
explanation for all of this foolishness.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:26:30 -0500
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Keep us all informed! I am also looking to upgrade my 10 meg. To 32 or 40 Meg.

Rodger

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->As soon as I wrap up some things at work (in the next couple of days),
->I was planning on dropping in on Bernie at Belmont Shores to try out
->their cards. I was mostly interested in 40mb, but I may look at the
->32mb CF also.

Great.  I too am interested in the 40+ card.  That way I may be able to
use it unstacked avoid the slowdown caused by Stacker.

Jeff


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On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Claud G. Cameron <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM> wrote:

ca> friend - apparently, mine was corrupt).  Now, WWW.EXE connects fine, =
but I
ca> get "POP3 Password failed" as the error message.  I've been able to =
send
ca> messages, but like you, haven't received a single one.  I think the =
problem
ca> is with the program, especially since you seem to be having the same
ca> problem on a different ISP.

Claud, sometimes the login (www.exe) calls for a different pwd than
the pop3 server - this is the case with one of my accounts. In this
case you will need to specify both of them (this is easily done using
the setup utils). Could this be your problem?

One one occassion after making some setup changes i forgot to enter my
pop3 pwd and received a similar msg as you. I use post/lx for *all* my
email and usenet (more than 100 msgs on some days) and have had no
problems sending nor receiving.

Another potential problem area is if your server is sending 'oversize'
packets (packets too large for post/lx to handle). I also had a
situation develop recently where postlx was working beautifully then
all of a sudden after a server upgrade it started giving problems
although hv+www/lx continued to work flawlessly! Turned out that it
was oversize packets! Try adding this line to your reader.cfg file in
the SYSTEM section: MaxSegmentSize=3D512

Good luck.

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HP>I have a new Infotel 14.4 k baud pocket modem (well, new to me), but don't
HP>have a command reference.  I'd like to run it QUIETLY, because I often use
HP>it early in the morning to collect e-mail.  Can someone help me out by
HP>maybe suggesting some init strings I can use that will turn off the speaker
HP>(before dialing)?

   The strings for changing volume are "ATL" and "ATL"

   For mute, you should use "ATM0L0", and "ATM3L3"  to wake up all your
   family  :)


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Date:         Fri, 23 Jan 1998 22:17:11 EST
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Subject:      Re: Type I PCMCIA using AIMS

> RGBROWN wrote:
> >
> > Hello All,
> > The Type I PCMCIA card using  AIMS (a form of auto-indexing) is used by
> > Ricoh's RDC-1 digital camera (an absolute marvel in technology!).  There are
> > only Windows and Mac drivers.  Excuse my naivete, but would it possible to
> > modify a Windows driver (aims.mpd) to a Dos driver?  I guess what I am
> > wondering is if this could be something really simple to modify.
>
> I'm posting this to the group, Robin - in-case someone tells me I'm
> wrong, but I'm under the impression that the 200lx works with type 1 & 2
> cards. If I were in your shoes I'd just plug it in and try to access it
> (not that I'm telling you to or anything<g>)
>
> Darren.
>

The RDC-1 used a different standard that predates the PCMCIA standard used
in todays cards. While the form factor and pinout are the same the internal
card arrangement is slightly different, that is why a driver was needed to
access it from a "normal" machine. Luckily they fixed this issue in the RDC-
2 and later models. Supposedly the reason Ricoh did this on the RDC-1 was
to speed up access to the card for its 30 fps mode.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
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Tidewater Community College

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 04:42:06 +0000
Message-ID: <19980124044204.AAA18264@12.64.37.64>

On 1998-01-23 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >On 1998-01-23 gjostein@hbc-law.no said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >>As a lawyer I often find it useful to load laws and agreements into
   >>my 200 LX ( 2MB RAM and a 40 MB ATA flash card). However a lot of
   >>the law and agreements are to large (500 Kb or more) to easily fit
   >>into the text-editor (Memo). I presume that the text would more
   >>easily fit into the Note-taker (*.ndb) ot the Database (*.gdb), but
   >>need a simple program to convert text-files (*.doc) to these
   >>formats. Can anybody help ?
   >>..... or suggest a better way to handle large text-files on the HP?

<snipped many useful suggestions>

   >These options I have placed in ascending complexity/difficulty,
   >so PalEdit you could have running in seconds, Word for Windows
   >will take an afternoon (or two!) to setup.
   >Hope this helps.
   >David Lawrence

Another alternative, if your need is always "read-only", is to use Pkzip in
conjunction with ZipRay and List.

All your reference texts can be compressed (via pkzip) to reduce your
disk usage (probably by half). You can compress several documents together
into a single zip archive and use ZipRay (at the SUPER site) to view the
archive contents (in conjunction with List (at most shareware sites).

The advantage of the approach is that it lets you carry more info. List is
also a great program for searching text.

The downside is that this combination doesn't let you make changes...for
that David's suggestions would be more useful...tho if you were a programmer
I would recommend the Calvin editor (small, fast, handles large files but
not your most user-friendly interface).

In regards to your remarks about Notetaker and Database, IMHO they are NOT
what you want. Not only will they add overhead to your space usage, their
search capability is limited (and SLOW...especially for large files).

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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At 10:44 PM 1/22/1998 -0700, you wrote:
>I have one of the leftover 1mb boards also....  (They pay shipping, of
course)
>____________________________________________________
I have an old misbehavin' 95lx, upgraded to 1mb by educalc; might this be
of any value to me?  ( I'd buy another 95 simply to have cheap RPN (HPCALC)
& 123 , phone, memo, appt again....

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People, help me out with this one.

Is it possible to use PCMCIA hard disk drives on 200LX, and if yes, which
ones? I'm really new in 200 world and I am trying to get a grip.

Thanks,

Nedim.

P.S.
If this is FAQ, I'm sorry, then just point me to more info.

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Nedim wrote:
>
> People, help me out with this one.
>
> Is it possible to use PCMCIA hard disk drives on 200LX, and if yes, which
> ones? I'm really new in 200 world and I am trying to get a grip.
>

Nedim , I am using a 41meg PCMCIA hd w/ my 200lx. Check out Accurite
Industries. they sell a thing called a Doubleslot, which is really cool.
It is a little box that plugs into the Card slot and allows one to use 2
type 2 cards at once or a 1 type 3 size device. I, for example, use the
hard drive to transfer stuff to flash, sram, and the c: drive. Also I
use the modem and sram or flash at the same time. For the Hard drive,
one must be tethered to the ac adaptor (included). One "advantage of
this, though, is that I can use the modem and have it be powered by the
doubleslot, which, of course, is plugged in. the double slot will work
without AC if you use, say, the modem and the sram - but of course
battery life is lessened. The Double slot probably uses very little
power, but the things one can plug into it can be very power-hungry (ex.
the hard drive needs 600mA to spin up).

Lemme tel ya, 41 meg is enough to keep all ny 200lx / DOS stuff on, and
if I need more space, I'll just put a stacvol on there.

I think the url is www.accurite.com.

Darren.

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Comments: To: Frank Ubachs <ubachs@XS4ALL.NL>

>
>I am using a SMART fax/modem/menory card (2400/9600) and have tried several
>versions of Qfax. Same problem every time. I also tried my pocket modem
>(14K4), no change.
>
>Hope we can trace the origin of this trouble.

This may be off-track here....

I had bad experience with QFax (with all respect to Anthony Mai, it's
pretty cool but works half the time for me). You could try out SSFaxer
.
It's avail for d/l at www.simplesimon.com. Works for me all the time.

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>> My Perl 4.0 (patch 4.0.1.8) works fine.  =

>> Does =

>>   perlglob *.c =

>> list the files?
>Yes. I dopn't know what could be wrong. Unfortunately, the distribution
>came with no help files - did you do any set up at all?

No. I have used Perl on a large variety of computers.

I use Perl for heavy things and pick up the files from the script using t=
he
dir-functions. I don't think I have any scrips that expects me to do "*.c=
".
Send me one and I'll move Perl to the LX and experiment.

I have perl and perlglob in \usr\bin. I have used the "strings" program o=
n
perl.exe and it doesn't seem to expect any special directory for this.

Jorgen
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I often keep several large texts (over 2MB each) on my machine.
Before I had a large flash card, I used to maximize the amount
of text on the machine by using Stacker (ver 3.1 is what I
have, I think) on the card, and using Berg's List program to
read the text. Using stacker allowed me to squish about
two times as much text on the machine, and List worked
very well for read only. I also liked that you could
adjust the screen "colors" (shades of black, in our case)
on the screen. I used the "Find" feature in List a lot
to find particular sections, Stacker did not seem to
slow this kind of linear search down at all. (Stacker
does seem to slow down random access operations
noticeably) Boy, writing this makes me want to
get Stacker out again and stack my 10MB card up!

-Bryan




Longden Loo wrote:

> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 04:42:06 +0000
> Message-ID: <19980124044204.AAA18264@12.64.37.64>
>
> On 1998-01-23 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
>    >On 1998-01-23 gjostein@hbc-law.no said to katana@clear.net.nz
>    >>As a lawyer I often find it useful to load laws and agreements into
>    >>my 200 LX ( 2MB RAM and a 40 MB ATA flash card). However a lot of
>    >>the law and agreements are to large (500 Kb or more) to easily fit
>    >>into the text-editor (Memo). I presume that the text would more
>    >>easily fit into the Note-taker (*.ndb) ot the Database (*.gdb), but
>    >>need a simple program to convert text-files (*.doc) to these
>    >>formats. Can anybody help ?
>    >>..... or suggest a better way to handle large text-files on the HP?
>
> <snipped many useful suggestions>
>
>    >These options I have placed in ascending complexity/difficulty,
>    >so PalEdit you could have running in seconds, Word for Windows
>    >will take an afternoon (or two!) to setup.
>    >Hope this helps.
>    >David Lawrence
>
> Another alternative, if your need is always "read-only", is to use Pkzip in
> conjunction with ZipRay and List.
>
> All your reference texts can be compressed (via pkzip) to reduce your
> disk usage (probably by half). You can compress several documents together
> into a single zip archive and use ZipRay (at the SUPER site) to view the
> archive contents (in conjunction with List (at most shareware sites).
>
> The advantage of the approach is that it lets you carry more info. List is
> also a great program for searching text.
>
> The downside is that this combination doesn't let you make changes...for
> that David's suggestions would be more useful...tho if you were a programmer
> I would recommend the Calvin editor (small, fast, handles large files but
> not your most user-friendly interface).
>
> In regards to your remarks about Notetaker and Database, IMHO they are NOT
> what you want. Not only will they add overhead to your space usage, their
> search capability is limited (and SLOW...especially for large files).
>
> - Longden

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Comments: To: gjostein@HBC-LAW.NO

On 1998-01-23 gjostein@HBC-LAW.NO said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >As a lawyer I often find it useful to load laws and agreements into
   >my 200 LX ( 2MB RAM and a 40 MB ATA flash card). However a lot of
   >the law and agreements are to large (500 Kb or more) to easily fit
   >into the text-editor (Memo). I presume that the text would more
   >easily fit into the Note-taker (*.ndb) ot the Database (*.gdb), but
   >need a simple program to convert text-files (*.doc) to these
   >formats. Can anybody help ?
   >..... or suggest a better way to handle large text-files on the HP?

You can use a word processor like word perfect. You can also use any
number of dos based editors that will handle large files. My personal
favrit is PALedit. I've yet to edit a file it can't handle. Another
good possibilty is the VR reader. It doesn't edit but it's a nice way
to read documents and it "remembers" where you were in the file. It
also lets you create bookmarks.


           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
      " He who lives without folly is less wise than he believes "

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On 1998-01-23 davidsa@accessnv.com said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:
   >> I have a new Infotel 14.4 k baud pocket modem (well, new to me),
   >>but don't  have a command reference.  I'd like to run it QUIETLY,
   >>because I often use  it early in the morning to collect e-mail.
   >>Can someone help me out by  maybe suggesting some init strings I
   >>can use that will turn off the speaker  (before dialing)?
   >Unless the modem has an internal speaker, you should be able to
   >just turn off the volume to the palmtop's speaker (in setup, or via
   >LXPro, or a host of other volume-setting utilities.)  If the modem
   >DOES have a speaker, ATL0 will turn the volume off.

Actually, I think the correct command for speaker off is ATM0.


ATL0 is the "lowest volume" setting which may or may not achieve complete
 silence.


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Comments: cc: d-cripps@DIRCON.CO.UK

On 1998-01-23 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Dear all,
   >from there and all works fine on the flash in A: (ha who needs CE).
   >Install size is 4.1MB tho! I've seen somewhere what is really
   >needed so may trim it a bit.

You should try Windoze 2.3. It doen't have program manager but will run
Word and Excel and is lots smaller.




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Subject:      Selling IBM Thinkpadfile 10MB card $65+shipping

This card is barely used. I had a 15MB card and used the 10MB card as
an "extra data/programs" card. It was so much trouble to switch cards
that I never bothered.

I think it's a fair price but prices change. Let me know if I'm way off
base here. The price is firm unless I get a sh*tload of "price police"
flames.

I would like to sell this card in person (NYC) or by recieving payment
in advance. You can send me a personal check and write "for deposit
only" on the back. I then will be forced to cash the check in my
checking account which means it can be traced to me by law enforcement,
if neccessary. Once the check is cleared I will send off the card via
UPS, Fedex or Priority mail.

I know my terms show a lack of trust but, hey. I'm a New Yorker.

As for my credentials, I think Mitch from www.palmtop.net can vouch for
me. I bought one of those little clip on lights and Software Carousel
from him. He knows I'm a real person with a real address and checking
account.

So, wattayathink?... any offers, comments, criticisms... insults?


BTW,

This card works on the 200LX and some older laptops. It's a 12volt card
and probably won't work on newer laptops, CE machines and cameras.

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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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Okay list gurus, here's a pair of questions for you.  First, I've
had a 2M 200LX for several months and I just got a new 4M 200LX.
The display on the new unit has greater contrast than the older
unit.  I can set the levels so the dark portions are equivalent,
but then the light portions on the older unit are darker than on
the new.  Does the degree of contrast decrease over time?  After
running the older unit on a charger, I noticed the display looked
sort of washed out.  Is it possible it never completely recovered?

Second question.  What is the best method for cleaning the display?
I'm assuming the surface is a synthetic polymer of some sort.  The
manual says nothing about this issue.  A soft cotton cloth for
dusting?  Any ideas?

Thanks for any and all suggestions.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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> >I am using a SMART fax/modem/menory card (2400/9600) and have tried several
> >versions of Qfax. Same problem every time. I also tried my pocket modem
> >(14K4), no change.

I use qfax 1.10 all the time with my SMART 6MB fax/modem memory card with
no problems at all.  I even receive faxes with it.  Great way to save
money at those hotels that charge $12 a page.

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              Nedim <nedim@ATHENS.NET>
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With these couple of line you can add your own custom directory processing.
Do wildcards or any other pattern matching if you wish. While you're at it,
you can add file renaming, moving or whatever.

$wc = $ARGV0;
$wc =~ s/\*/(.)+/g;  #process *
$wc =~ s/\?/(.)/g;   #process ?
opendir (DIR, ".") || die "Can't open dir.\n";
@dir = readdir (DIR);
closedir (DIR);
foreach $file (@dir) {
        if ($file =~ /$wc/) {
                print ("$file\n");
        }
}

This is just an idea, and you can evolve around it.

Hope this helped.

Nedim.

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:17:07 -0500
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              Charles Quick <quick@CYBERTAP.COM>
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I'm very interested - would you take a posyal money order in us$?


----------
> From: Edward A. Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Selling IBM Thinkpadfile 10MB card $65+shipping
> Date: 24 January, 1998 1:00 PM
>
> This card is barely used. I had a 15MB card and used the 10MB card as
> an "extra data/programs" card. It was so much trouble to switch cards
> that I never bothered.
>
> I think it's a fair price but prices change. Let me know if I'm way off
> base here. The price is firm unless I get a sh*tload of "price police"
> flames.
>
> I would like to sell this card in person (NYC) or by recieving payment
> in advance. You can send me a personal check and write "for deposit
> only" on the back. I then will be forced to cash the check in my
> checking account which means it can be traced to me by law enforcement,
> if neccessary. Once the check is cleared I will send off the card via
> UPS, Fedex or Priority mail.
>
> I know my terms show a lack of trust but, hey. I'm a New Yorker.
>
> As for my credentials, I think Mitch from www.palmtop.net can vouch for
> me. I bought one of those little clip on lights and Software Carousel
> from him. He knows I'm a real person with a real address and checking
> account.
>
> So, wattayathink?... any offers, comments, criticisms... insults?
>
>
> BTW,
>
> This card works on the 200LX and some older laptops. It's a 12volt card
> and probably won't work on newer laptops, CE machines and cameras.
>
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Date:         Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:36:30 -0600
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>
>I've adjusted to reasonable mono settings in setup and applied these by
>using
>
>Xtra
>Colour
>
>in the programme. But, I'd like the current window in normal with a
>black shadow frame around it. Can't get that. Can only get a light grey
>shadow.
>


Try using the following command sequence:

Adjust
Global
75
1
yes
rare
color
n
n
n
n
n
n
n
esc
quit restart

I have found the color, border combinations to be the easiest to use on the
eyes.

I don't know if you can enlarge the font size. If you find out let us know
as I sometimes find it a little small (in dim light)

Alan

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jan 1998 15:28:45 -0500
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Peter,
    You can use helv100.com to improve the font on the HP200LX.  Not sure
where I got it. If you can't find it let me know and I'll look for a backup.
I destroyed my HP200 LX yesterday and don't have a copy handy.

Ron Beckley
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, January 22, 1998 2:18 PM
Subject: Info Select on HP200LX


>Just got IS for DOS latest version and installed it on the HP200LX.
>
>Great programme for my "information management and manipulation" needs.
>
>The only probs I'm having are below. Any ideas? Manual hasn't come yet.
>Micro Logic e-mailed me the .exe prog file to get going as mail to UK is
>a week.
>
>Typeface too small. is there a way of enlarging the base font? I know
>you can zoom and either scroll around the screen or go into edit mode
>but it feels wrong.
>
>I've adjusted to reasonable mono settings in setup and applied these by
>using
>
>Xtra
>Colour
>
>in the programme. But, I'd like the current window in normal with a
>black shadow frame around it. Can't get that. Can only get a light grey
>shadow.
>
>I'm looking forward to using this neat programme provided it doesn't
>mess my eyesight up.
>
>I managed to import all phone numbers, notes and databases from the
>HP200LX built - in PIM using smartclip with a -- field at the end, then
>using the split command in IS. This tip was posted on the HPLX mailing
>group recently.
>
>Thanks
>
>Dr Peter Maddern
>Product Developer
>North Wales, UK.
>
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Date:         Sun, 25 Jan 1998 10:24:25 +1300
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Subject:      Re: Abandonware and Windoze...
Comments: cc: epadin@WAGWEB.COM

   >You should try Windoze 2.3. It doen't have program manager but will
   >run Word and Excel and is lots smaller.
   >Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA

Hi 'yall, I hope you don't get tired of me blabbing on about
Windoze on the palmtop, it just seems there are lots of people
out there that don't know that it is possible!

I was at the weekly computer fair yesterday and bought a manual
for Windows 2.0 for $1.00 I can't stress enough, how useful
manuals are, I had been struggling with Paint, trying to get a
grip on the Zoom feature, and a couple of paragraphs from the
manual and I was a happy chappie!

While trying to work it out, I discovered a feature that is not
even mentioned, if you select the scroll tool, the one with four
arrow-heads, and press enter, you get a full-page print preview
that you can drag the "Active Window" around. Most impressive.

BTW, this version of Paint is a direct steal of the MacPaint of
the same era, no mention in the manual of that!

Another thing I picked up at the fair was an un-used Bitstream
Font pack. It installed fine to my Windoze 3.0 and offers lots of
goodies for print fanatics, but I have been having a little
trouble getting it to install to Win 2.0, even though the
Bitstream manual says it's cool with 2.0

Two things I didn't pick up, but marvelled at the price, were a
"Student Version" of Excel 2.1 with run-time win 2.0 at $10.00
and Norton Utilities version 8 for $15.00 That's a seriously good
deal, Norton has GOT to be one of the most competent/powerful
pieces of software written for the PC.

Possibly the best deal of the decade for me was a few months ago,
when I got the full, boxed versions of WordPerfect 5.1 and Lotus
123 v2.4 for $15.00 the both of them! That's $7.50 each! A saving
of Thousands of dollars on the original sticker-price. The
manuals come to about 15lb's worth. I prefer this to paying
$999.99 (NZ) for office 98 where you get one 1oz cd and a piece
of paper stating your life-long entrapment to Big Bill and little
else.

Also, the new software should be called "BloatWare" I mean, there
is a Single .dll in Word 97 that is over 9meg, I have Windows and
Two versions of Word And Excel combined at just under 5meg. I doubt
the latest full installs of 98 and IE 4.0 and Office at around
1/2gig have 100 times the useability of my 5meg setup (including
nettamer!)

On the Win 2.0 vs 3.0 and later front, 2.0 is far and away the
best setup for keyboard lovers, with every move and action
available to the key pressers. 1.0 is Mac-like in that it
requires you to use the menus every time, there are No
short-cuts, 2.0 is great, then comes 3.0 and the programmer's
obviously thought "All the World Has a mouse, or pointing
device." So they stripped many of the keyboard short-cuts out...


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jan 1998 17:10:53 -0500
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On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:
> > perl -e "while($ARGV0) {print(\"$ARGV0\n\"); shift;}" *.*
> This just prints:
>         *.*
>
> If reboot with no TSR's, it does the same.
>
> > Is it possible that perlglob.exe has to be in the same directory as
> > perl.exe?  Is yours?  Try typing
Is it?  You didn't say.

> Hmmm.. what is different about mine?
I exited out of sysmgr when I tried it.  Did you?

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:41:02 -0800
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I have extra copy of WWW/LX for sale that was included in a QUICK/LX deal.
No reasonable offer will be refused.

Let me know what you think,

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:23:52 +0000
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On 1998-01-24 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >Second question.  What is the best method for cleaning the display?
   >I'm assuming the surface is a synthetic polymer of some sort.  The
   >manual says nothing about this issue.  A soft cotton cloth for
   >dusting?  Any ideas?

I sometimes just use tissue or a lens cloth out of my camera bag. Probably
more important to remember to blow off or lightly brush off any grit before
you wipe in ernest.

- Longden

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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
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I am sure it has been posted before, but

What is the frequency of the standard LX crystal?

Thanks,

karl

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At 10:24 AM 1/25/98 +1300, David Lawrence wrote:
>
>Hi 'yall, I hope you don't get tired of me blabbing on about
>Windoze on the palmtop, it just seems there are lots of people
>out there that don't know that it is possible!
>
>....
>
>Two things I didn't pick up, but marvelled at the price, were a
>"Student Version" of Excel 2.1 with run-time win 2.0 at $10.00
>and Norton Utilities version 8 for $15.00 That's a seriously good
>deal, Norton has GOT to be one of the most competent/powerful
>pieces of software written for the PC.

What is Windoze and how does it work?  I would love to use Excel and Word
(if I could find them) on my 200LX, but a:drive spance is limited.  As to
the other point, where is this computer fair that you saw Excel 2.1 and
Norton v8?

Thanks.
Jeff

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Comments: To: jmacdowell@usa.net

   >At 10:24 AM 1/25/98 +1300, David Lawrence wrote:
   >>Hi 'yall, I hope you don't get tired of me blabbing on about
   >>Windoze on the palmtop, it just seems there are lots of people
   >>out there that don't know that it is possible!
   >>....
   >>Two things I didn't pick up, but marvelled at the price, were a
   >>"Student Version" of Excel 2.1 with run-time win 2.0 at $10.00

   >What is Windoze and how does it work?  I would love to use Excel
   >and Word (if I could find them) on my 200LX, but a:drive spance is
   >limited.  As to the other point, where is this computer fair that
   >you saw Excel 2.1 and Norton v8?
   >Thanks.
   >Jeff

Hi Jeff, "Windoze" is slang for Mr Billy's "How to Own the World"
software, ie: Windows in it's various iterations from 1.0
(stolen, lock, stock and barrel from the Mac), version 2.0, in my
and many other's opinion, the best version for the palmtop, and 3.0
which is the last that will run on an LX.

How much A: drive space can you afford to set aside? You can get
Win 2.0 running in well under 1meg, but with calendar, notepad,
the phonebook database and paint you add another 700k.

You can shoe-horn in Excel & Windows & Win 2.0 in under 5meg.

A good bet for getting copies of ancient software, and we are
talking 1987 here(!) is computer fairs and swap-meets and the
free-trade & exchange papers.

The one I mentioned is in Auckland, New Zealand, each Saturday,
and yes, next week I Will buy the Excel and Norton for sale to
anybody on the LX list. BTW, the Excel has a run-time version of
Windows 2.0 so if you install it alone, you get Excel, control
panel and clipboard and a macro editor.


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:54:33 -0500
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              Donald Collins <collins_dr@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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I am waging a campaign to ask Lotus Corp. to fix the cc:Mail mobile progr=
am
to be more useful on our Palmtops.  My suggestion to them is to either
provide a patch (TSR? or new driver on the c: drive) to allow for the use=

of scripts or provide an Import/Export version that can read the cc:Mail
palmtop file format.  Other options would be PPP dialup & POP3.

Please help by submitting these or other suggestions to:

http://www.support.lotus.com/css/feedback.htm

At the bottom of the form you will find the words.

"For Product ideas and suggestions, please use our Product Suggestion
form."

And spread the word.

Much thanks.

Donald R. Collins

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jan 1998 03:02:57 -0500
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              "thomas e. nemeth" <103153.2417@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Just wanted to say thanks to Longden, Colin, Sean and Michael for their
help in getting Piiceon's info to me.  The list is certainly a brotherhoo=
d
(sisterhood?) (peoplehood?) ...lemme try again....The list is certainly a=

wealth of info, advice, camraderie, and deep understanding of the HPLX. =

Thanks for making this such a wonderful forum with such a great feeling o=
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community.
I wonder if HP has any idea of the commitment and fervor the HPLX's
generate?
cheers from damascus...
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I have a 16MB Simple Technology Flash card fitted in a standard 2MB palmt=
op
(no speed or memoory upgrades). The results of Longdens simple speed test=

averaged over three runs is:
C: - 8.7sec
A: - 9.2sec

In response Barry Collins who is investigating the purchase of 40MB Simpl=
e
Technology for his user group, I have had no problems with my 16MB card, =
my
only observation is that it seemed to significantly affect power
consumption. Before having the card I was getting approximately 12hour
usage from my 950mAH Nicads, on using the memory card (permanently
installed) this life dropped to approx 6 hours. This did not seem to be
typical for users of other makes of flash card on this list that responde=
d
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when installing a memory card. =

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jan 1998 09:16:11 -0800
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Does anyone have any experience with a US Robotics Megahertz PC Card Modem
in conjunction with the LX?  I was given a used LX200 and in the box was
this modem card, model XJ4336.  The LX doesn't seem to recognize it when
it's plugged in, and I suspect I need to install a driver to run it.  The
problem is that I am reluctant to to use the install program that came with
it on my PC to unpack the necessary files--especially since my PC can't
accept a card modem.   As I understand it, this card is more suitable for a
laptop running Windows.

Would anyone be interested in a trade?  This card has the XJACK Connector,
and 33.6/14.4kbps Data/Fax/Voice.

I'd consider a memory card or older modem card that the LX can recognize
without loading a driver.

Reed
papertrl@tcd.net

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 01:05:29 +0900
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Subject:      X-Jack modem for HP200LX

Hi guys,
My name is Kenji and I am sending this mail from
Japan, using HP200LX.

I am looking for 3Com (Megahhertz) X-Jack modem
which can used with my HP200LX.
I know that XJ3144 can be used, but it has been
already discontinued to be manufactured.
Is there any PC shop which still have XJ3144?

Also, I have info. from 3Com that XJ4336
can be used with HP200LX.  But I'm not sure.
If anybody has XJ4336, please check.

Thanks,

<- Kenji Kume kume@shikoku.ne.jp !->

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jan 1998 13:19:40 -0700
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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: POP3 Authentication (was:POST/LX

Here's a simple way to find out if your POP3 server needs special
authentication. You can use telnet on a win95 or unix system (or if you
have nettamer) to log in to the server on port 110. This will allow you
to talk directly with the POP3 server. If successful, you get a
response something like:

"Unix SYS/V etc,etc, POP3 Ready."

At this point should be able to use the following login commands:

user {username}
pass (password}

If it says something like "login OK" then read mail messages with


retr 1   <----- list message 1
retr 2   <----- list message 2, etc.


This is basically what your POP client does. If you can't get
authenticated then maybe your POP server uses APOP authentication which
won't allow plain text passwords. Eudora does support APOP and that
might be what it's using.


Hope it helps.



On 1998-01-23 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Claud,
   >I am out of ideas, but perhaps someone else here using POST/LX with
   >netcom in the USA can help.There is no authentication when
   >contacting SMTP, only when contacting POP3. If you have the correct
   >POP3 Login and POP3 Password in your mailbox setup and you get the
   >"authentication failed" message then maybe netcom are using some
   >new form of authentication?
   >Could be a spelling error, but I doubt it :(
   >Normally you wouldn't get that far if the numeric IP address of the
   >POP3 server were different to what is in www.cac ... but, you never
   >know - have you tried deteling c:\_dat\www.cac?
   >Regards, Tony

           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
      " He who lives without folly is less wise than he believes "

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From:         Darren Frick <DFrick@MAIL.SNIP.NET>
Subject:      Re: Contrast on 200LX display?
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Longden Loo wrote:
>
In answer to the first question - the screen contrast issues seem to
revolve around the temperature. When it's cold everything's too dark -
when it's hot - like during charging - screen washes out. Maybe the area
around whatever is affected by the temperature is dirty?

Darren.

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From:         Darren Frick <DFrick@MAIL.SNIP.NET>
Subject:      Re: 200LX xtal
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Karl DeLyria wrote:
>
> I am sure it has been posted before, but
>
> What is the frequency of the standard LX crystal?
>
> Thanks,
>
Karl, as reported by lxstat : 15.836773

Darren.

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jan 1998 20:04:12 +0100
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              ioio <ioio@ALPHA.TELERIVIERA.FR>
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Hi,

To access the net with my PC, I use the cable (TV cable).

Doesanyone know if its possible to connect my 200LX with my PC, in order to
use my calculator to access the net.

Thanx to answer quickly.

Lionel

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jan 1998 14:01:41 -0600
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              Mary and Mike Kilpatrick <mikemary@MCIPNET.COM>
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Quinton,

Do you still have it?

Mike

At 02:41 PM 1/24/98 -0800, you wrote:
>I have extra copy of WWW/LX for sale that was included in a QUICK/LX deal.
>No reasonable offer will be refused.
>
>Let me know what you think,
>
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Thanks for the reply,

Roger

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward A. Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Sunday, January 25, 1998 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: POP3 Authentication (was:POST/LX


>Here's a simple way to find out if your POP3 server needs special
>authentication. You can use telnet on a win95 or unix system (or if you
>have nettamer) to log in to the server on port 110. This will allow you
>to talk directly with the POP3 server. If successful, you get a
>response something like:
>
>"Unix SYS/V etc,etc, POP3 Ready."
>
>At this point should be able to use the following login commands:
>
>user {username}
>pass (password}
>
>If it says something like "login OK" then read mail messages with
>
>
>retr 1   <----- list message 1
>retr 2   <----- list message 2, etc.
>
>
>This is basically what your POP client does. If you can't get
>authenticated then maybe your POP server uses APOP authentication which
>won't allow plain text passwords. Eudora does support APOP and that
>might be what it's using.
>
>
>Hope it helps.
>
>
>
>On 1998-01-23 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
>   >Claud,
>   >I am out of ideas, but perhaps someone else here using POST/LX with
>   >netcom in the USA can help.There is no authentication when
>   >contacting SMTP, only when contacting POP3. If you have the correct
>   >POP3 Login and POP3 Password in your mailbox setup and you get the
>   >"authentication failed" message then maybe netcom are using some
>   >new form of authentication?
>   >Could be a spelling error, but I doubt it :(
>   >Normally you wouldn't get that far if the numeric IP address of the
>   >POP3 server were different to what is in www.cac ... but, you never
>   >know - have you tried deteling c:\_dat\www.cac?
>   >Regards, Tony
>
>           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
>      " He who lives without folly is less wise than he believes "
>
>Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Registered
>
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Date:         Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:39:27 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Flash card performance
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 20:39:14 +0000
Message-ID: <19980125203912.AAA4016@12.64.39.131>

On 1998-01-25 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >I have a 16MB Simple Technology Flash card fitted in a standard 2MB
   >palmtop no speed or memoory upgrades). The results of Longdens simple
   >speed test averaged over three runs is:
   >C: - 8.7sec
   >A: - 9.2sec

Thanks for the figures. I'll post the updated summary in a day or so.

   >In response Barry Collins who is investigating the purchase of 40MB
   >Simple Technology for his user group, I have had no problems with my 16MB
   >card, my only observation is that it seemed to significantly affect power
   >consumption. Before having the card I was getting approximately
   >12hour usage from my 950mAH Nicads, on using the memory card
   >(permanently installed) this life dropped to approx 6 hours. This
   >did not seem to be typical for users of other makes of flash card

Martin Sebastian posted a few days ago that his 40mb Simple Tech card had
problems when the voltage dropped to 2.4v. Maybe this is an indicator of
possible power issues in the Simple Technology controllers....something
to consider...

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:48:48 +1300
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From:         David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Re: cc:Mail on the HP Palmtop
Comments: cc: collins_dr@COMPUSERVE.COM

On 1998-01-25 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >I am waging a campaign to ask Lotus Corp. to fix the cc:Mail mobile
   >progr= am
   >to be more useful on our Palmtops.  My suggestion to them is to

Hi Donald,

Have you tried @palmtop.com???

If you are in the states, it is a killer setup. Unfortunately, I live
in Auckland New Zealand and the call price was a turn off, but I tried
it for a month free (except for the international Telecom monopoly
money rate!) and the service is flawless!

It sure was nice to be able to use cc:Mail mobile in the palmtop as it
is fully sysmanager compliant, as opposed to nettamer which requires
me to shell out to dos and there is no cut-n-paste and no switching
between apps.

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jan 1998 16:49:19 -0500
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I got a great deal on a Motorola 14.4 Cellular Fax Modem this weekend.  A
local electronics super store (Nobody Beats The Wiz) was closing down, and I
picked it up new for $12.50.  It seems to works in the palmtop (I can dial
from DataComm).  Does anyone have any experience with this particular modem?
I'll try some testing with NetTamer later.

Sean Hoger
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You will need a PCMCIA ethernet card and the appropriate software.

--- On Sun, 25 Jan 1998 20:04:12 +0100  ioio <ioio@ALPHA.TELERIVIERA.FR> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>To access the net with my PC, I use the cable (TV cable).
>
>Doesanyone know if its possible to connect my 200LX with my PC, in order to
>use my calculator to access the net.
>
>Thanx to answer quickly.
>
>Lionel
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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I've added some more abandonware to my ftp site. Unfortunately, I haven't
had a chance to unencode it so it's still in .uue format, but you should
be able to readily fix that :) Everyone have fun!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd

    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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Date:         Sat, 24 Jan 1998 19:08:11 -0700
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On 1998-01-25 DFrick@MAIL.SNIP.NET said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Karl DeLyria wrote:
   >> I am sure it has been posted before, but
   >> What is the frequency of the standard LX crystal?
   >> Thanks,
   >Karl, as reported by lxstat : 15.836773
   >Darren.

Isn't that the times2tech crystal? I thought the stock 200lx came with
a 7-something MHZ crystal.


           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
      " He who lives without folly is less wise than he believes "

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Edward A. Padin wrote:
>
>    >Karl, as reported by lxstat : 15.836773
>    >Darren.
>
> Isn't that the times2tech crystal? I thought the stock 200lx came with
> a 7-something MHZ crystal.

The Times2 Tech crystal is ~31.67Mhz, exactly double the frequency of the
200LX's built-in crystal.  The CPU runs at half the frequency of the crystal,
so the undoubled 200LX runs at 7-something megahertz.  But the crystal is
15.83...

--
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My abondonware ftp site is a ftp://ftp.scott.net/pub/users/jeffj


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
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Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd

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Date:         Sun, 25 Jan 1998 20:53:57 -0800
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I have an old Sundisk 2.5 that I have been trying to get to work with my
200LX. The card works fine in an old 95LX and win95 machines. SANDISK told
me the card would not work in the 200LX.

Out of desparation I copied ms-flash.sys for my Omnibook 425 to my 200LX
and edited my config.sys to include it. I rebooted and ran fdisk100. The
200LX recoginzed the card and I can use it for files. What is interesting
is the card is still recognized by win95.

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At 19:08 24/01/98 -0700, you wrote:
>On 1998-01-25 DFrick@MAIL.SNIP.NET said to epadin@wagweb.com
>   >Karl DeLyria wrote:
>   >> I am sure it has been posted before, but
>   >> What is the frequency of the standard LX crystal?
>   >> Thanks,
>   >Karl, as reported by lxstat : 15.836773
>   >Darren.
>
>Isn't that the times2tech crystal? I thought the stock 200lx came with
>a 7-something MHZ crystal.

Nope. The CPU works at 7-something MHz, which is 15.836773 divided by two.
There's a divider by 2 between the crystal oscillator and the CPU.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:56:21 +0800
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Subject:      Re: Convertion of text-files into *.ndb or *.gdb
Comments: To: "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>

>   >need a simple program to convert text-files (*.doc) to these
>   >formats. Can anybody help ?
>   >..... or suggest a better way to handle large text-files on the HP?
>
>You can use a word processor like word perfect. You can also use any
>number of dos based editors that will handle large files. My personal
>favrit is PALedit. I've yet to edit a file it can't handle. Another
>good possibilty is the VR reader. It doesn't edit but it's a nice way
>to read documents and it "remembers" where you were in the file. It
>also lets you create bookmarks.

For a 'biggie', I resort to T.EXE (obtainable from <garbo.uwasa.fi> or
simtel. Essentially, what T's strength is there is no memory limitatio
n
(it reads as much as possible) and do a swap to disk for the rest... T
stands for Technical Word Processor; it's sharreware and small enough
to
go into the 200LX without hassle. Help file for T is optional ie you c
an
leave it out when T grows on you... It got features that put a host of
other wp to shame...

Try it, you may find that this is theone you are looking for.

Regards,

C P Wong

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:54:06 +1300
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On 1998-01-26 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >>   >need a simple program to convert text-files (*.doc) to these
   >>   >formats. Can anybody help ?

   >For a 'biggie', I resort to T.EXE (obtainable from <garbo.uwasa.fi>
   >or simtel. Essentially, what T's strength is there is no memory
   >limitatio n
   >(it reads as much as possible) and do a swap to disk for the rest...
   >T stands for Technical Word Processor; it's sharreware and small
   >enough to
   >go into the 200LX without hassle. Help file for T is optional ie
   >you c an
   >leave it out when T grows on you... It got features that put a host
   >of other wp to shame...
   >Try it, you may find that this is theone you are looking for.
   >Regards,
   >C P Wong

I don't want to get into direct confrontation, here, I just want
to point out the differences in using these compact
editor/readers. I chose Dexter over T.Exe and Reader.Exe because
these programs both do the same memory conserving trick, of
breaking a file into 64k chunks and reading one in, while tagging
other pieces for later use.

This has several drawbacks IMHO, the time taken to split the
pieces and the problem of searching the whole file and several
others with this type of memory kludge.

Dexter, and PalEdit can both open huge files, I often work with
txt and htm files of over 8meg. Dexter is the speed demon, opening
these in only a few seconds, and allowing one to jump to the last
line, or any other almost instantly.

Dexter is only 70k and I have mine permanently in my \bin
directory in the path so it can be called from anywhere. You can
call it with a filespec and it will generate a file list on the
File menu that you can sort and add to or delete from. You can
even add separating lines and group files by project or class.

I even have it as my editor from nettamer, as staying with the same
program keeps commands to remember to a minimum.

Dexter includes a feature designed for programmers, but useful to
those of us that don't! It is called temporary quit, and allows
programmers working on code to exit the program and run the
compile, run the program they are working on, have it run fine or
crash the machine, restart and then when Dexter is fired up again
from the same directory, it opens with the cursor Exactly where
you left off!

BTW, for those of you with XTree Gold that have not plumbed the
depths of this awesome piece of software, the file viewer is
UN-MATCHED in my opinion. I have yet to find, and I have been
looking for over 10 years!

XTree Gold will open silly sized files, like a 50meg swap file in
the blink of an eye and has a search function that defies
description. You can switch to hex view in a flash and search and
edit to your heart's content...

One of the neatest functions I think, is the F7 Auto-View. Sort
of like Lotus 123's viewer add-in, unfortunately omitted from the
palmtop's rom 123, but if installed in the 123 default dir, will
work just dandy, although the total file size is larger than the
two text editors I have been pushing. (And no commission...)

With XTree Gold's auto view and Lotus 123's viewer, you can
browse directories and each file the highlight is on is displayed
in a window taking up 60-70% of the screen, the rest of the
screen is the dir listing and the moveable highlight and some
command screen stuff.

This is amazing when you have a LOT of files, as you can quickly
peek in instead of opening them one by one into an editor/viewer.
Both of these approaches allow you to scroll inside the peek
view, and when you find the file you want, in 123 pressing enter
loads it, and XTree Gold V loads it for full screen view.
I hope I haven't provided a "Red Herring" with the description of
Lotus 123's viewer, as 123 is not the best place to view and
search & possibly edit large text files, but 123 is THERE, and
the ability to browse is worthy of investigation, even if when
the file is found it is loaded into another text processor
entirely!

My forte is, I guess, evaluating software and matching it to
user's requirements. Most people don't want to waste time trying
several different iterations of the one concept, they just want
to USE one! I, on the other hand, like to optimise the work
environment by dissecting the capabilities of software and
judgementally rating the usability for different scenarios.

For example, a friend, recently new to palmtopping, is a Povray
fan a,d does his own listings for early Egyptian architecture on
his 200LX now.

Initially, he wanted me to suggest an editor he could use that
would be most efficacious to the writing of listings and without
too much thought, I suggested Dexter & PalEdit, but as he was a
Mac man before the LX, raw dos text editors gave him the willies!

So I re-evaluated the case & we have him happy now with Memo and
Notetaker and some tricky macros.

He works on a single file and when he comes to a place where he
wants to write a description that is often repeated, he will
simply write it's code-name, like box, or header, and press the
assigned macro key.

This macro selects the word just typed, cuts it to the clipboard,
flicks to the notetaker, opens Find, pastes the word, searches
for he listing, smart-clips it, flicks back to Memo and pastes it
far faster than he can type it and with no spelling or syntax
errors...

And it cost him nothing...

My motto, Experiment, fiddle, tweak, don't be too scared to
"break" it, and above all, Enjoy yourself!



David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 05:00:03 -0500
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Is XTree Gold for DOS?  Is it abandonware??  If so, anyone know
where it might be available??





On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, David Lawrence wrote:
> BTW, for those of you with XTree Gold that have not plumbed the
> depths of this awesome piece of software, the file viewer is
> UN-MATCHED in my opinion. I have yet to find, and I have been
> looking for over 10 years!
>
> XTree Gold will open silly sized files, like a 50meg swap file in

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HP>Is XTree Gold for DOS?  Is it abandonware??  If so, anyone know
HP>where it might be available??


   Some versions, already are "abandonware", that means older than 1992,
no longer selled or supported by their companies, i'm using version 1.3,
from year 1989, and it works great, i think is the best application for
manage files ever written !

The "entire" installation is about 700k


Don't forget about Norton Utilities.... :)


Martin
Marseb@giga.com.ar

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Actually, I found that in the setup for the Reader portion of the
program, if you use your 'username', without the @server.whatever
portion works, with your password in the proper place.  I intend to
post my setup files to the HPLX list, but thanks a lot for the help!

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:18:50 -0600
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              "Jeffrey N. MacDowell" <jmacdowell@USA.NET>
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>At 10:48 PM 1/24/98, you wrote:
>>At 11:00 PM 1/24/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>>What is Windoze and how does it work?  I would love to use Excel and Word
>>>(if I could find them) on my 200LX, but a:drive spance is limited.  As to
>>>the other point, where is this computer fair that you saw Excel 2.1 and
>>>Norton v8?
>>
>>Windoze is an extremely popular "operating system" that has currently been
>>modified 123,456,734,123,651,995 times and as such is more commonly
nicknamed
>>"Win '95".  ;)
>>
>>I'm surprised you haven't seen that spelling before.  It's pretty common
>>among DOS and Unix people.  As is "Plug 'n' Pray", "Uncle Bill", "Mess-DOS",
>>and a host of others.

OK, schedule me for pedal extraction surgery.  That is what I get for
catching up on the list on a Sat. night -- I best go to bed now b4 further
damage is done to my already fragile 200LX self esteem.

Thanks for the education.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:48:41 -0500
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Ted Heise wrote:
>
>
> Second question.  What is the best method for cleaning the display?
> I'm assuming the surface is a synthetic polymer of some sort.  The
> manual says nothing about this issue.  A soft cotton cloth for
> dusting?  Any ideas?
>
>A few years ago I purchased a product called SNAP.  It was advertised as the only product approved for cleaning and protecting the screen and keyboard of a 95LX.  I think it came from Educalc.  The company name on the bottle is:
Mist Products
16 Watch Hill Rd.
Croton-on-Hudson, NY 10520

It seems to do a good job and is supposed to impart a protective coating
which minimizes the accumulation of dust.  I have no idea if this
company is still in business but my 232cc bottle has lasted through 4
palmtops.

Jim

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:00:45 -0800
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I'm comparing a couple of brands of rechargeables, each with varying
capacities (1100, 1200, 1300, 1350mAh) and just for benchmarking purposes,
wanted to compare against a standard Energizer AA (alkaline).

Anyone know the mAh rating for one of those? (or for a DuraCell).

Or if you know where I can find the info, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks. Longden

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:41:44 -0500
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From:         Alex Arancio <store4u@TROUTSEGALL.COM>
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> I have extra copy of WWW/LX for sale that was included in a QUICK/LX deal.
No reasonable offer will be refused.

How much is WWW/LX new? I like to try it before I buy if you would consider that.

Alex Arancio
Trout, Segall & Doyle LLC

Email:  store4u@troutsegall.com (business)

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:52:39 -0800
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hey gang,

   Does anyone know if the built in database in the 200lx can be ported
to a dos machine. Is there a dos version for the pc. It would be handy
to edit/add info on pc and download file to hp200lx
                    Thanks in Advance
                                 Terry Livingston

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:43:00 -0800
Reply-To:     David Sargeant <davidsa@accessnv.com>
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On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, Terry Livingston wrote:

>    Does anyone know if the built in database in the 200lx can be ported
> to a dos machine. Is there a dos version for the pc. It would be handy
> to edit/add info on pc and download file to hp200lx

Well... the Connectivity Pack has many of the 200LX apps on it, including
the Database.  It's basically like a 200LX emulator.  Good for typing in
lots of things on the big keyboard.

--
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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:22:09 -0700
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Does anyone know of an Appointment Book app that runs under Win95 and
uses the 200LX .adb file?

I am running the appts.exe program I got when I was with HP ... but it
is kinda old and klunky.

Has anyone come up with a replacement?

TIA..

---
Jan Allbright - "14-91" - Calhan Volunteer Fire Department
     KC0BUY - 146.970(-) 100Hz PL Col. Springs, CO
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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:29:20 -0700
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What hardware / software bits do I need to turn the 200LX into a packet
radio station??

TIA

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:43:18 -0800
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Check TAPRS at http://www.tapr.org/




At 02:29 PM 1/26/98 -0700, you wrote:
>What hardware / software bits do I need to turn the 200LX into a packet
>radio station??
>
>TIA
>
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>     KC0BUY - 146.970(-) 100Hz PL Col. Springs, CO
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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:55:48 GMT
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              Tony Hutchins <tonyhut@IBM.NET>
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> Actually, I found that in the setup for the Reader portion of the
> program, if you use your 'username', without the @server.whatever
> portion works, with your password in the proper place.  I intend to
> post my setup files to the HPLX list, but thanks a lot for the help!

That's great you have it working!

So, where the User part of the Setup has fields for
"Your Name:" and "Email:" you had your Email address in "Your Name" and
password in the "Email". I think I almost did something like that at
one stage too.

Regards, Tony

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:11:12 -0600
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All you need is the Baycom modem www.tigertronics.com and the included
software and a cable!!! Have fun!!!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd

    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:31:14 -0800
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Alan, thanks for those IS settings. You should mention to people that in order
to see how good those settings are you have to quit IS and reload it.

Another thing is that I download the HELV100.COM file from eddie but it seems
to lock up my HP200 when I try to run it. Does it only work on the 100? Is
there a key to running the program that I don't know about? There are no
instructions on using the program at eddie.


===
Dave Hart (hartd@poboxes.com)
Beavercreek (Dayton), OH USA
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - G. Marx





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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:34:05 +0000
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              Al <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
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I just finish to modify some bad links
and  add  new soft
go on
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn/


If you have sotfs I can add,
go ahead and send then to me.

I'll set e new site with more space avalaible during the week.

regards
Al
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:20:33 +0800
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Subject:      Re: Little clever text editors...
Comments: To: katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ

Hmmm... where can I find Dexter? Maybe I can eval. it and see if it's
better (to see whether I can actually use it.)

BTW, if Dexter is not reading the file in chunks, how did it read the
big entire file in?

Looks like I'm behind times when it comes to ASCII editors (too much
of windoze apps. at work. I use a Mac at home so there is nothing for
me to compare)

Thanks for the detailed desc of XTree Gold and Dexter.

Regards,

c p wong

+--------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
| cpwong@tm.net.my   | C P Wong                                      |
| cpwong@acer.com.my | Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia                        |
| cpwong@w3xs.com    | Using D-Mail v2.3 on HP200LX                  |
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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:06:32 -0500
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What's really bad is that, as you describe, tech support isn't tech
support anymore - a kid in highschool with zits and a bad haircut, and
little in common with computers!  For all of Microsoft's faults (now,
THERE'S a can of worms), you can still get them to answer a question.

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On Mon, 26 Jan 1998  David Hart <hartd@ROCKETMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Another thing is that I download the HELV100.COM file from eddie but
> it seems to lock up my HP200 when I try to run it. Does it only work
> on the 100? Is there a key to running the program that I don't know
> about?

Helv100 is a TSR.  It can't be run from FILER or the DOS shell in
AppMgr.  You need to run it in either raw DOS or from your autoexec.bat
file.  This and several other font loaders work on both the 100 & 200.=


There's a file on SUPER, called fontstuff.zip (or something like that)
that has a whole bunch of fonts.

I also have one of my own (based on the andrew fonts) that includes
Avi Meshar's moon phase characters for the use with ADBMOON, if anybody
wants to try it.

-PR
------------

Peniel Romanelli   peniel@web2000.net   d021785c@dc.seflin.org
    *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
   Miami, Florida -- Redefining the term "Political Asylum"

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:07:02 -0500
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I have a Motorola Power 14.4 Cell/Fax Modem, but I can't seem to get it to
work on my 200LX. I get a "card battery low" message when I turn on the
palmtop after I insert the card and it beeps. I get no response in
Datacomm. It's connected to the adapter and yes, cic100 is loaded. It does
work in a laptop under Win95 however.

At 04:49 PM 25/1/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I got a great deal on a Motorola 14.4 Cellular Fax Modem this weekend.  A
>local electronics super store (Nobody Beats The Wiz) was closing down, and I
>picked it up new for $12.50.  It seems to works in the palmtop (I can dial
>from DataComm).  Does anyone have any experience with this particular modem?
>I'll try some testing with NetTamer later.
>
>Sean Hoger
>shoger@buyrite.com

_____
Gavin Hui                      "Shared despair is squared;
gavin@inforamp.net    shared hope is cubed (or better)."
Mississauga, ON                               -Lady Sally McGee
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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:46:01 -0500
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Has anyone had any luck with a Motorola 14.4 PCMCIA fax modem and Nettamer?
I had no problem setting it up with my US Robotics 14.4 Worldport Pocket Fax
Modem.  No matter how I set the Motorola modem, I have problems.  In the
best case (1200-9600 BPS) I get to the point where it logs into the mail
server, and requests the first message, but it gets no further.  Eventually
it times out.  If I try to look at the mail file that it creates, it
immediately exits to DOS.

No matter how I set the program, I can always get it to work with the US
Robotics World Port!  This is strange to me because I have very little luck
getting the Worldport to work with any other software.

Sean Hoger
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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:50:30 -0500
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This sounds like the same modem that I have.  I have had no problems talking
to it, only getting it to work with Nettamer.  I have the default cic100
/gen 1 loading in autoexec, and I set Datacomm to Com 2.  I noticed that My
battery decreased dramtically when I was using the modem.  I went from 6-7
hours to about 1/2 hour (if that!).  I have been using it plugged in with no
problems other than Nettamer (see previous post)

>I have a Motorola Power 14.4 Cell/Fax Modem, but I can't seem to get it to
>work on my 200LX. I get a "card battery low" message when I turn on the
>palmtop after I insert the card and it beeps. I get no response in
>Datacomm. It's connected to the adapter and yes, cic100 is loaded. It does
>work in a laptop under Win95 however.

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:12:26 -0500
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Jan;
    Go to http://www.tigertronics.com to see their BP-2 and BP-2M products.
Either can be used with the HPLX and there's a page with freeware to
download, much of which is compatible too.  I have the BP-2M and am very
satisfied with it.

                       73 73 73 de VE3 TNW...
                                                    Tony

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:29:09 -0700
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From:         "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: How does it work? (was: Pocket Packet Radio?

How does packet radio work? Is it two-way? Is it like the internet? Can
you use TCP/IP? X.25? Can you access Internet resources? How is the
battery drain?

Sorry for all the questions but it sounds interesting and I know almost
nothing about it. Perhaps a URL to the "dummies guide to packet radio"
or something equivalent would suffice.

Thanks.

On 1998-01-26 jeffj@SCOTT.NET said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >All you need is the Baycom modem www.tigertronics.com and the
   >included software and a cable!!! Have fun!!!
   >73 de KF4KGQ
   >Jeff Johns
   >jeffj@scott.net
   >Reserve Captain
   >Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept

           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
      " He who lives without folly is less wise than he believes "

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:29:17 -0700
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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      What is InfoSelect ?

I'm sure that this has been asked before but I am new to the list. What
exactly is it? I see it mentioned on the list quite often.


Thanks.


           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
      " He who lives without folly is less wise than he believes "

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 01:43:31 -0500
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Well, actually the blank I added my user name to was one to use if my
SMTP had a different login than the ISP, the one the used by WWW.exe
to log into the the ISP (and the associated password).

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BTW, Happy Australia Day!

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From:         David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Dexter where?
Comments: cc: cpwong@TM.NET.MY

On 1998-01-27 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >Hmmm... where can I find Dexter? Maybe I can eval. it and see if
   >it's better (to see whether I can actually use it.)
   >BTW, if Dexter is not reading the file in chunks, how did it read

On the S.U.P.E.R. site www.palmtop.net/super.html

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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> $wc =~ s/\*/(.)+/g;  #process *
> $wc =~ s/\?/(.)/g;   #process ?
snip
>         if ($file =~ /$wc/) {
Hey! That's a really cool idea, being able to interpolate within a
regular expression - I thought that's what you were doing with the (.)+
etc above; but it seemed pretty bizarre (and cool!)

As I speak, I am typing in your program on my hplx (I have 2 pairs of
hands), and am about to try it out.

> Hope this helped.
Yes! It worked. Though it took about 7 seconds on my hplx... but it means
that I can now have awk functionality in perl on my palmtop. I think
once perl gets going, and sorts out dir reads etc, it will be much faster
than awk.

Thank you!

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>
> On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:
> > > perl -e "while($ARGV0) {print(\"$ARGV0\n\"); shift;}" *.*
> > This just prints:
> >         *.*
> >
> > > Is it possible that perlglob.exe has to be in the same directory as
> > > perl.exe?  Is yours?
Tried it in \bin (in my path) and in the same dir - same result. Just:
        *.*

> > Hmmm.. what is different about mine?
> I exited out of sysmgr when I tried it.  Did you?
Hmmm. I had to reboot to get rid of all the TSR's. I also set the COMSPEC
var as someone suggested.

I am not yet adept enough to pick a syntax error in perl - if you copied
the above by hand, could some little error have crept in?

This puzzle's got me!


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Hi David,

> I don't want to get into direct confrontation, here,
(Me neither, but vi is best. biff, thump  ;) )

> Dexter, and PalEdit can both open huge files, I often work with
> txt and htm files of over 8meg.
I didn't know this - cool information, thanks.

> It is called temporary quit, and allows
> programmers working on code to exit the program and run the
> compile, run the program they are working on,

Calvin (vi clone) has a similar feature: you say :! and the name
of the program. Then, you get just say :!! to repeat it again.

Eg. I'm working on a perlscript, called cool.pl. I write (save) it, and
say
        :!perl cool.pl
and it runs. Calvin starts a shell, runs the program, and then waits for
you to press a key before returning to the file. *great* for that
run-edit cycle! Do it again with the shortcut:
        :!!

Of course, it doesn't help you if the machine actually hangs. My
perlscripts haven't yet hung the machine. Maybe I'm just not trying
hard enough? :)

> XTree Gold ... awesome piece of software
I keep hearing this. I'll have to try it again some time - how big is
the optimal version for the palmtop?

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> HP>Is XTree Gold for DOS?  Is it abandonware??

I always thought that XTree Gold was shareware... maybe I've been hanging
with too many games programmers?

> The "entire" installation is about 700k
Er...


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----- Forwarded message from Toshiki Sasabe -----

o You are permitted to use _displayon and _displayoff.  The restriction
  in his document was meant to prohibit the copying of the whole (or
  nearly) of his program.  The use of assembly routines are no problems.

o The assembly routine _displayoff saves the current contrast setting
  (by reading the port) to the work area and set the contrast to zero.
  If you have difficulty to secure the work area in your program, you
  can skip this steps or restore the contrast to a fixed value.

o Setting the contrast to zero slightly lowers the power consumption but
  does not change the available CPU power.



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On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > > > perl -e "while($ARGV0) {print(\"$ARGV0\n\"); shift;}" *.*
> > > This just prints:
> > >         *.*
snip
> I am not yet adept enough to pick a syntax error in perl - if you copied
> the above by hand, could some little error have crept in?

It worked for me, albeit on my desktop PC under Win95.The interesting
thing is it worked without perlglob present. Can someone explain? is Win95
better at filename expansion? (so at least it's good at something ;-)

Regards,

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:05:33 -0600
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If you have, and can use Schedule+ (v7.0), a product from Puma
Technologies called IntellSync will provide a most useful "bridge"
between your HP and W95.  IntelliSync will provide two-way
transfer/synchronization between the palmtop's Appointment Book,
Database, and Note Taker (text files).  Not cheep, but if you already
have W95 Office, this is the way.

Phil

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>Subject:       Appointment Book for Win95?
>
>Does anyone know of an Appointment Book app that runs under Win95 and
>uses the 200LX .adb file?
>
>I am running the appts.exe program I got when I was with HP ... but it
>is kinda old and klunky.
>
>Has anyone come up with a replacement?
>
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On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > HP>Is XTree Gold for DOS?  Is it abandonware??
>
> I always thought that XTree Gold was shareware... maybe I've been hanging
> with too many games programmers?

XTree has always been a commercial program. I don't know if it's abandoned
or not.

> > The "entire" installation is about 700k
> Er...

The XT-era versions of XTree is 43k. I use XTree-Pro (which pre-dates
XTree Gold) on my LX and that takes about 148k (but works much faster,
among other things).

- Longden

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Yes. Cool thing about this approach is that you can do some pretty wild
things. These two lines will just change * with (.)+ and ? with (.)
so that Perl regexp can work. You can match files that regular dos would
never allow you like hp*0?x
I have to say here that you don't need parentheses in these two lines.

Nedim.

At 11:50 PM 1/27/98 +1100, you wrote:
>> $wc =~ s/\*/(.)+/g;  #process *
>> $wc =~ s/\?/(.)/g;   #process ?
>snip
>>         if ($file =~ /$wc/) {
>Hey! That's a really cool idea, being able to interpolate within a
>regular expression - I thought that's what you were doing with the (.)+
>etc above; but it seemed pretty bizarre (and cool!)
>
>As I speak, I am typing in your program on my hplx (I have 2 pairs of
>hands), and am about to try it out.
>
>> Hope this helped.
>Yes! It worked. Though it took about 7 seconds on my hplx... but it means
>that I can now have awk functionality in perl on my palmtop. I think
>once perl gets going, and sorts out dir reads etc, it will be much faster
>than awk.
>
>Thank you!

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:22:36 -0800
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This may be of interest to those using rechargeables and is a follow-on to
Brian McIlvane's interesting "Battery Information" posted on the SUPER
site. If you're still looking for a rechargeable to buy....

As a user of a double-speed, 6mb 200LX with a 20mb flashcard, and
PCMCIA modem (frequently sans AC), I drain my batteries more quickly than
I'd like.

Over the last few months, I've tried several brands of rechargeables
including the Panasonic 1100mAh NiCads(from Costco), and several NiMH
batteries including RadioShack 1200mAh, YesSolar's 1300mAh and
Times2Tech's 1350mAh.

Having used each of them for several weeks, I decided to use my spare LX
to test battery endurance under similar conditions (much as Brian did).

For each test, I charged a set of batteries (using ABC/LX) to their
maximum voltage (previously determined by several charges using ABC/LX),
then unplugged the AC and ran a simple batch file to chkdsk the flash card
with light sleep disabled (as David Sargeant did in his battery reviews on
his website). The batch file ran till the LX went dead (ie, the screen was
blank).

The number of hours the LX was operating was recorded by ABC/LX and ranged
from 11-16 hours, though that's hardly the usage you should expect from
these under real conditions, as most of the final hour(s) may have been
under "low-battery warning" conditions. The numbers are more meaningful as
a comparison against the other batteries in the test.

The test is hardly rigorous (each brand tested only once), but the figures
may still be useful to someone out there....and I do have other things to
do <g>.

The results showed the Times2Tech batteries having the longest life (and
is also rated as the highest mAh).

Also of interest was that the Panasonic NiCads lasted longer than the
RadioShack NiMH. Panasonics were only rated at 1100mAh compared to RS's
1200mAh.

The percentage difference shown is between the battery and the lowest
figure, so T2T brand, rated at 1350mAh is therefore 22.73% more than Pan,
rated at 1100, and achieved a test endurance of 16.48 hours compared to
the lowest time of 11.50 hrs for the RS, for a difference in endurance of
43.3%

                Rated  Percent  TestDur  Percent
             Capacity     Diff   (hrs)      Diff

    (LowVal)     1100             11.50

    Pan          1100     0.00%   12.78    11.13%
    RS           1200     9.09%   11.50     0.00%
    Yes          1300    18.18%   14.55    26.52%
    T2T          1350    22.73%   16.48    43.30%

Test times, the number of loop iterations and the maximum starting charge
values were:

Brand   Hr:Mn   Start-End       Loop    Max
T2T     16:29   9:17p-1:45p     3787    2.92v
RS      11:30   3:22a-2:52p     2455    2.81v
YES     14:33   5:22p-7:54a     3062    2.87v
PAN     12:47   9:12p- 9:58a    2840    3.06v

- Longden

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I'm sure it isn't shareware as I paid for a copy from a computer store
years ago.



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>
>> HP>Is XTree Gold for DOS?  Is it abandonware??
>
>I always thought that XTree Gold was shareware... maybe I've been hanging
>with too many games programmers?
>
>> The "entire" installation is about 700k
>Er...
>
>
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On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> > > HP>Is XTree Gold for DOS?  Is it abandonware??
> >
> > I always thought that XTree Gold was shareware... maybe I've been hanging
> > with too many games programmers?
>
> XTree has always been a commercial program. I don't know if it's abandoned
> or not.

AFAIK, the term Abandonware is not a legal term so whether it is abandoned
or not depends on the user...

> The XT-era versions of XTree is 43k. I use XTree-Pro (which pre-dates
> XTree Gold) on my LX and that takes about 148k (but works much faster,
> among other things).

So how does it compare to Norton Commander?, a utility I have used
extensively for many years.

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:20:56 -0500
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Hey all, I found a really funny strip
poker game for CGA that runs great on
the LX.  Four girls, which do sorta look
human.... (He he)

Got to see it, just for the laughs.

Linked at my web page...use a real
browser to get there tho. Only there for
a few days.

http://www.comports.com/hplx

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:23:06 -0600
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Packet radio is a two way form of digital communcation and yes you can do
TCP/IP. We amateurs use it for accessing bulletin boards send email, etc.
Some folks are lucky enough to have a packet to internet gateway in their
area. It is used on VHF, UHF and HF frequencies. If you are wearing a
pager you have a small packet radio receiver clipped to your waist and
didn't even know it. Oh yeah, some amateurs are even send pager messages
via packet to other amateur's pagers. I would suggest if you are
interested that you contact the American Radio Realy League www.arrl.org
for more indepth and technical info than I can provide.


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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Subject:      Re: Motorola PCMCIA Modem
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> I have a Motorola Power 14.4 Cell/Fax Modem, but I can't seem to get it
to
>work on my 200LX. I get a "card battery low" message when I turn on the
>palmtop after I insert the card and it beeps. I get no response in
>Datacomm. It's connected to the adapter and yes, cic100 is loaded. It does
>work in a laptop under Win95 however.

I also have the Motorola Power 14.4 Cell/Fax modem. I have used it
flawlessly for years. However, I've never tried it with Nettamer and I
think I remember so initial setup problems. As far as the low battery
indicator. That is normal since the modem does not have an internal
battery, and Sysmanger is looking for one. Just ignore it.

As far as the drain on you main battery, that will happen with any PCMCIA
modem card. Accessing the com port always seem to have this effect on power
consumption.

I haven't used my modem in a while, but I will dig it up and try to
remember how I got it to work.  It is a great modem once its set up
correctly. Fast and reliable even over a cell line, so you made a good
investment.

Alex Arancio
Trout, Segall & Doyle LLC

Email:  store4u@troutsegall.com (business)

Discount Long Distance - Commercial  or Residential
Telecom-Pros http://www.telecom-pros.com/members/alex

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:59:36 -0600
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Hey everyone,

   I am still trying to get sound going for my 200LX, I have the
component identified, but no one can actually find it in a cross
reference.  So my next step is to see if anyone has a broken 200lx that
they want to get rid of for a few dollars.

Thanks,

Stan

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:05:44 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Little clever text editors...
Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> > The XT-era versions of XTree is 43k. I use XTree-Pro (which pre-dates
> > XTree Gold) on my LX and that takes about 148k (but works much faster,
> > among other things).
>
> So how does it compare to Norton Commander?, a utility I have used
> extensively for many years.

They're all of the same ilk. After version 3 of anything, you'd think the
developers must have it at least 90% right (functionality wise).

I'm sure XTree and Norton Commander (and ???) all have things to recommend
it. I bought XTree and its subsequent upgrades (up to XTree Gold) and
that's why I use it over the others.

But FWIW, I like XTree cuz it lets me query my files quickly. If I want to
find all the files on a disk that match a certain pattern, and then view,
edit or delete them, it's fast on XTree.

If a program creates or updates unknown files on my system, XTree can tell
me in a second where they are, by showing all disk files sorted by
date/time (not just be directory).

If I want to clean up my system, I can sort the entire list of disk files
by size and work on cleaning up the biggest ones first to avoid wasting
time (and viewing them to make sure I don't want them).

And it does all the other things you expect from File managers like
toggling file attributes, processing of "tagged" (ie selected) files,
viewing files in hex/char modes, etc.

It works fast cuz it reads in the whole file list for the disk (which on
my LX takes all of 2 seconds for my 20mb card).

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:40:28 -0500
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>I also have the Motorola Power 14.4 Cell/Fax modem. I have used it
>flawlessly for years. However, I've never tried it with Nettamer and I
>think I remember so initial setup problems. As far as the low battery
>indicator. That is normal since the modem does not have an internal
>battery, and Sysmanger is looking for one. Just ignore it.


I sure would love to know how you got yours to work...  I have spent days
trying to get Nettamer to work as well as Terminal to try to connect to
PCBoard and ProComm Host Mode.  The closest I can get in Terminal is I get
extra characters during a session (specifically a 'D').  I have tried a
second modem, so I don't think it is defective.

Sean Hoger
shoger@buyrite.com

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:45:21 +0000
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              Peter Maddern <pmad@DEVT.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Why does search function on Info Select version 2 on the HP200LX "fly"
when the AC adaptor is connected and why is it so much slower in battery
- only mode? Is it voltage - related? What batteries can I use to make
searches "fly" in battery - only mode?

In battery - only mode, pressing the "on" button during a search also
speeds the search up? I wonder why?

Any thoughts?

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:37:52 +0000
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In message <199801241936.NAA09516@Kitten.mcs.com>, Alan Peres
<aperes@mcs.net> writes
>>
>
>Try using the following command sequence:
>
>Adjust
>Global
>75
>1
>yes
>rare
>color
>n
>n
>n
>n
>n
>n
>n
>esc
>quit restart
>
>I have found the color, border combinations to be the easiest to use on the
>eyes.
>
>I don't know if you can enlarge the font size. If you find out let us know
>as I sometimes find it a little small (in dim light)
>
>Alan
>
Alan

The colour combibations work well. Funnily, it took several re - boots
before they kicked in?

On the question of a larger, more - readable DOS font for running IS in
non - zoom mode, the following extract from a private mailing to me from
Bruce Frumerman is interesting:-

"BTW, I saw your group posted note about problems in sizing screen fonts
and getting background colors set as you'd like them. You should get a
program I use called UltraVision by a company called Personics.
UltraVision resets the DOS based color set and font set to your
choosing. Your preferences are saved in an UltraVision configuration
file.

In my case, I have a batch file that runs UltraVision and loads my DOS
color set and font set preferences that I want for Agenda; and then
Agenda loads. You see, Agenda's default background color is grey
(although Agenda calls it 'white'). I use UltraVision so that I have a
true white background, and a font size of my choosing.

Personics is located (or, at least was, the last time I checked) in
Maynard, Massachusetts. Their phone number is 508-897-1575. FYI, the
company is best known for a product called Monarch Report Writer, an
add-on for spreadsheet and database programs. Don't know if they have a
web site. Maybe you'd want to check them out."

Regards

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:27:51 +0100
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              Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT>
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|     ANNOUNCE: New HP200LX Web Page        |
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|     http://www.cs.unibo.it/~gaioni        |
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Hi!
I'm proud to announce the birth of a new page related
to HP palmtops. I'd appreciate your help to improve these
pages: new links, new sites, etc.
At this time only 2 sections are active:

1- Abandonware

2- Vendors

I'm working on other sections: your contribution is
WELCOME.

               !  T A K E  A  L O O K !

               Raffaele Gaioni
               gaioni@cs.unibo.it
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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:41:47 -0800
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              Quinton Jones JR <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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I'm looking for a 100LX or 200LX motherboard . If anyone has a damaged
100LX / 200LX and would like to sell the motherboard please let me know.


Looking forward to your reply,

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:43:52 -0400
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              Ian Melville <imelv@TSTT.NET.TT>
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On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:

ll> Brand   Hr:Mn   Start-End       Loop    Max
ll> T2T     16:29   9:17p-1:45p     3787    2.92v
ll> RS      11:30   3:22a-2:52p     2455    2.81v
ll> YES     14:33   5:22p-7:54a     3062    2.87v
ll> PAN     12:47   9:12p- 9:58a    2840    3.06v

Longden this is certainly very good work and useful information indeed!
Well done.

My only wish tho is that i could see 14+ hrs from the brand new set of
YesSolars i've recently installed in my lx (thanks Al <g>). My
equipment is a 2x 5mb 200lx with a 'stacked' 8mb 1414LXM Thinfax and
although my best voltage is *exactly* 2.87v (measured by abc/lx) i can
muster only about 4.5 ~ 5.25 hrs. per charge! I switch the lx on/off
many times per day and i suspect that this plus the modifications and
a hungry modem is what chomps my cells. I go online several times a
day with the lx but *never* without the help of the adapter.

I expect that thinfax users with these modifications will have a
similar 'real world' experience as i with no more than ~6 hrs. from
their yessolars but i agree that it seems to be the best battery i've
used short of the T2T ones which i have never seen...

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:53:24 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Just thought I'd pass along this - I transferred my bookmark file from
Netscape 3.01 to the WWW/LX directory, thinking I would have to modify it
to work with HV.  Low and behold, I tried to use it while connected via
WWW.EXE, and it WORKED!  Went right to the URLs using the associated names
(in English).  Of course, you have to be careful, because not all sites
work well with HV.

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:55:13 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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I've just installed this, but can't get it to work.  Does anyone know what
files are really necessary to run Windows 2.03 on the palmtop?  Also, are
any other files needed (I saw something about SetVer, and one other one to
keep the keyboard from locking up, but I can't locate my copy of the
e-mail).

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:20:10 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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I would be very interested to hear more on the use of pagers for packet
traffic.

Phil

>----------
>From:  JeffSMTP:jeffj@SCOTT.NET
>Sent:  Tuesday, January 27, 1998 12:23 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: How does it work? (was: Pocket Packet Radio?
>
>Packet radio is a two way form of digital communcation and yes you can do
>TCP/IP. We amateurs use it for accessing bulletin boards send email, etc.
>Some folks are lucky enough to have a packet to internet gateway in their
>area. It is used on VHF, UHF and HF frequencies. If you are wearing a
>pager you have a small packet radio receiver clipped to your waist and
>didn't even know it. Oh yeah, some amateurs are even send pager messages
>via packet to other amateur's pagers. I would suggest if you are
>interested that you contact the American Radio Realy League www.arrl.org
>for more indepth and technical info than I can provide.
>
>
>73 de KF4KGQ
>Jeff Johns
>jeffj@scott.net
>Reserve Captain
>Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
>Birmingham, Alabama USA
>http://www.bham.net/jcsd
>
>    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**
>

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:32:37 -0500
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Brendan,

> > perl -e "while($ARGV0) {print(\"$ARGV0\n\"); shift;}" *.*
> This just prints:

Works like a beaut on my 200LX.
I had PERL in A:\BIN (which is in the path). PERLGLOB is not needed.

>I note that the system function doesn't seem to work either; ie
>       print system("dir");
>prints only -1

This works under UNIX, DOS 6 and 7, but not on the 200LX (I get a -1 like=

you)! =

However I could execute plenty of other programs with system(), so it mus=
t
have something to do with the way transient functions are implemented on
the LX? It is not a matter of memory, as I have 1K more free RAM on the L=
X
than on the DOS 7 system (598944 bytes on the LX).  =


Shal I send you a copy of PERL.EXE? It looks like the author forgot to
enable wildcards on that version.

Jorgen
  =

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:24:52 -0500
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 print system("dir");
does not work because dir is an internal DOS command.  You can only use
system() to execute external programs.  There is a parameter to
command.com (don't know it offhand) that will let you execute a specified
command.  Another, more flexible solution, would be to look for one of the
many ls or find equivalents for DOS.



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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:56:59 +0100
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On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, David Kramer wrote:

>  print system("dir");
> does not work because dir is an internal DOS command.  You can only use
> system() to execute external programs.  There is a parameter to
> command.com (don't know it offhand) that will let you execute a specified

The switch /C should make command.com execute just one command before
exiting.

> command.  Another, more flexible solution, would be to look for one of the
> many ls or find equivalents for DOS.

Right. tk_ls.arc availiable from Garbo (garbo.uwasa.fi) in /pc/unix is
very good and includes C-source. There is also a good one availiable in
the Danix Utilities, a set of 25 shareware Unix-like utilities.

Now has anyone successfully installed the Korn shell (ms_sh23b.zip)
availiable from Garbo? I've tried, but cannot get it to read my
configuration files.

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:07:04 -0800
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              Quinton Jones JR <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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At , you wrote:
>Hey Quinton, did you try Mack for a motherboard?  He's been at
>Disneyworld since last Wednesday, and he'll be back tomorrow.
>
>If it's not too much trouble, can I borrow the case to that broken 100LX
>you have?  I'm trying to get a couple of screens to backlight, but the
>only place that sells them is Thaddeus, and they don't sell them
>separately, they'll only replace a broken screen.  So I figure if I
>send in my broken screen in one of my cases, and the one you gave me in
>the case you have, I can get a couple screens.
>
>
No trouble! You can borrow it, come-on-down.

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I just got one of the Simple Technology 40MB flash cards.  It was
cheap, only $270.99 for the card, and I just put it through the paces.
 There was some concern that the Simple Tech cards didn't work when
voltages fell to under 2.4 volts.  Well, I'm running on a pair of
Panasonic high-capacity nicads (1100 mAh) and the voltage is at 2.33
(or 2.34, depending on what program does the reading) and the card is
still working fine.  It's even still benchmarking at the same speed.=

Maybe the last test was performed using alkalines?  I can't remember.=

In any case, I'm a firm advocate of nicad batteries at least, and
preferably NiMH batteries.  (The 1350 mAh batteries from Times2 Tech,
which have consistently been rated the highest, amazed me again
today... I had left them in my bag since charging them in mid-November
without doing anything to them since.  Today, I put them in my 200LX,
thinking they'd be almost dead so I could use them to test the Simple
Tech card under low power conditions.  Not so; they were still at 2.55
volts.  Amazing for a NiMH battery.)

Anyway, here are the results for the Simple Tech card, tested numerous
times (using the standard batch file benchmark, on battery power)
without SysMan loaded.  The results never deviated from this average=
 by
more than 0.05 seconds (except under System Manager; then it was slowed
up by a second or so):

Simple Tech card, with key held down: 5.55 seconds
Simple Tech card, without key held down: 5.55 seconds

As you can see, this card is not affected by the key-holding "feature."
 All around, including the 5 year warranty, this card is probably the
best I've seen yet.  And the cheapest, too.

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>
>  print system("dir");
> does not work because dir is an internal DOS command.  You can only use
> system() to execute external programs.

Hmmm. That's an odd limitation on perl - Turbo C++ allows me to execute
a batch file, which includes dir, in its system(). And calvin will also
execute such internal commands from within it... yet another puzzle!

> There is a parameter to command.com (don't know it offhand) that will
> let you execute a specified command.

Do you mean the COMSPEC environment variable? If so, tried, but no banana.

> Another, more flexible solution, would be to look for one of the
> many ls or find equivalents for DOS.
I was just trying to get *something* working! ;) Thinking that the
wildcard expansion wasn't working because it couldn't run the perlglob.exe
which does seem to be true:
In fact, *every* argument to system seems to return -1 for me - even
        system("perlglob *.pl");


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David,

What's the part number and where did you buy your flash card?

Thanks,

Nedim.

At 08:22 PM 1/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I just got one of the Simple Technology 40MB flash cards.  It was
>cheap, only $270.99 for the card, and I just put it through the paces.
>...

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anybody know if there are any being offered for sale anywhere, anymore?
thanks
al

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:18:16 -0600
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> Why does search function on Info Select version 2 on the HP200LX "fly"
> when the AC adaptor is connected and why is it so much slower in battery
> - only mode? Is it voltage - related? What batteries can I use to make
> searches "fly" in battery - only mode?

IS constantly polls the keyboard as you enter your search term.  This
results in the LX "slowing down", as it thinks that the program is
just sitting there waiting on a keystroke.  To improve the search
speed, just hit <enter> when you entered "enough" of your search
string.

On the desktop, IS usually finds the desired info before you
get all of it entered, so you'll find that you never use the <enter>
key there.
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:21:32 +0000
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On 1998-01-27 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >I just got one of the Simple Technology 40MB flash cards.  It was
   >cheap, only $270.99 for the card, and I just put it through the

   >Simple Tech card, without key held down: 5.55 seconds

   >"feature." All around, including the 5 year warranty, this card is
   >probably the best I've seen yet.  And the cheapest, too.

Good going David. Like another poster, I'd like to know the part-number
and where you ordered from.

- Longden

PS - Is the card 3.3/5/12 volt? Any feel for the power comsumption?

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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I saw this in an usenet newsgroup, I peronally were interested and
ordered one right away.  I think others on this list might be interested
too.

        Yi

P.S.  Have no connection with the dealer below.

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From: jon41ny@aol.com (JON41NY)
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Subject: PCMCIA XJACK MEGAHERTZ MODEM/FAX $24.99 EACH
Date: 24 Jan 1998 12:48:23 GMT


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First of all let me state that I know how things work, I just don't know
all the fancy technical terms. With that stated, let's think about pagers
for a minute. When you dial someone's pager number or send them an
alphanumeric message via a modem the paging service translates this into
a digital signal then sends it out via it's array of antennas which are
scttered at strategic places in their coverage area. The pager itself is
nothing but a radio receiver waiting to recieve a signal, what keeps it
from receiving everybody's pages is that it must receive the correct
CAPCODE which is embedded in the signal sent out by the paging provider.
If it recieves it's unique CAPCODE, by the way you can find the CAPCODE
on the back of your pager, it acitvates it's internal modem, demodulates
the signal and displays either the numeric or alphanumeric message to be
displayed on the screen. In the case of the alphanumeric pager I have,
according to the back of the pager it operates at 1200 baud. The pager I
have operates in the 152Mhz range which makes it a VHF receiver, those in
the 460Mhz and 800-900Mhz range are in the UHF band. An important thing
to remember is that the higher the frequecy the more "line of sight"
comes into play, although must of us are lucky in that paging companies
usually have more than adequate coverage for their given areas. I believe
if I remember correctly that FSK (frequency shift keying) is employed in
the paging scenario. POSAG is the standard used for paging here in the
United States and I believe the acronym SMS (short messaging system) is
the standard used in Europe (correct me if I'm wrong). There is a neat
program on the Simtel site that allows you to decode pager messages, with
your computer, possibly even the LX even though I have never tried it.
Remember the Electonic Communication Privacy Act :) There was an
interesting article in QST, the ARRL's monthly magazine, a few months ago
and if anyone is interested in paging I would reccomend the article. It
explains how amateur radio operators can buy new crystals for Motorola
pagers and modify them for the amateur frequencies. Remember the FCC says
that how have to ID the transmissions and this can be done digitally.
Anyways, that's my take on paging, I now return you to the regulary
scheduled palmtop discussions :)


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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Reserve Captain
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
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    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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Hi Everyone,

Thanks again to those of you who responded to my questions re the
purchase of a large memory ATA flash card for use mainly in the HP
200LX.

There have been several individual responses and I have written to
Bernie Torbik of Shore Systems and to Simple Technology, plus checked
out several Web sites.  Also, another member of our local Group, David
Lawrence in New Zealand, telephoned a local retailer of Simple
Technology products for information.

For the benefit of the HPLX Mailing List, I shall give a summary of my
progress, with a brief recap.

It appeared that those of us in our local Australia and New Zealand
situation who were keen to acquire an ATA memory card felt that around
40Mb was the optimum size.  Obviously at the high (and variable) price
of some of these cards it was important to find the cheapest without
compromising general quality and after sales backup.  We started out
with little knowledge of technical specifications, which might not
have been all that helpful without the practical experience passed on
from other users.

As more of you started to test you own cards and to pass on this and
other information it seemed that, all things considered, the best
options came down recently to Simple Technology and Viking flash
cards, broadly in the price range of just over $100 US.  At least two
personal contacts were well satisfied with their Simple Technology
cards but there were still some reports that below 2.4 volts there
could be an operating problem, though that was the only problem
mentioned.  I have heard of no such problem with the Viking card, with
some figures supporting the claim that it is twice as fast as the
Sandisk card, which seems to be generally accepted as a reliable
standard.

Nearly a week ago I sent an e-mail message to Simple Technology and to
Bernie Torbik, as I explained above, seeking more information and
prices etc.  Bernie immediately replied but Simple Technology did not.
 Of course, it is possible that my message did not get there, though
that in itself could be regarded as significant.

In two prompt replies Bernie has provided an excellent summary of the
Viking flash cards with the address of the site to visit (which I did)
for technical data:- <www.vikingcomponents.com>

Although not up on the technical aspects, I have been left feeling
confident that Viking cards can be plugged straight into the 200LX and
will give fast, reliable performance with no voltage problems and they
can be used with Stacker and "hot swapped".  There is a new 48Mb
compact flash card (which has its own adaptor) due very soon for
around $300 and sometime in April there will be a 160Mb card possibly
under $1,000 in price.  Bernie also provided the names of two other
well-satisfied users whose names might be familiar to most of you, so
you can follow this up with Bernie.  He deserves consideration.

I am bound to say that I have no interest in Shore Systems and have
had no previous dealings with them or Bernie Torbik and have had no
special offers made to me.  I am passing this information on for the
benefit of readers, since the topic has already been raised.

If I hear from Simple Technology, I shall let the HPLX Mailing List
know.

Happy palmtopping!

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX

PS.  This message was written and ready to go before sighting that of
David Sargeant of Tue, 27 January 1998.  This message has only just
been received - don't forget that we down here ("Down Under") are
ahead of the rest of the world, in more ways than one!
BC.

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With all this talk of file previewers, let me brag about Vim a tiny little bit:

if you have a filename in your file, eg
        @echo off
        echo "Hey, check this out!"
        cool.bat

move the cursor over cool.bat, and open it by typing "gf" {ie (g)o
(f)ilename)}! Then return to the first file with 6.

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In a message dated 98-01-27 21:02:52 EST, you write:

> anybody know if there are any being offered for sale anywhere, anymore?
>  thanks
>  al

Hey Al,
If  you can't find the DC20, the DC25 is a fine buy.  It's about the same size
with a flash, LCD, and takes compact flash cards.  LXDC won't run with it on
your HP200LX so you can't view them there.  BUT the compact flash card fits
into an adaptor which fits into your HP's PCMCIA slot.  And now you have your
photos on A drive to be  moved to your computer via lap link or serial cable
or attached to an AOL email message.  Refurbished ones (those returned back to
Kodak for various reasons) are under $200 with factory warranty.  Do a search
in alta vista.  If I see one, I'll give you a heads-up.

HTH,
Robin

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> BUT the compact flash card fits
> into an adaptor which fits into your HP's PCMCIA slot.  And now you have your
> photos on A drive to be  moved to your computer via lap link or serial cable

So, you can create an image on your computer, and then view it on
the camera?

PS what does HTH mean?

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Hi, David:
Would you please let me know where/whom you purchased your Simple card from?
Thanks.

Bernie Torbik

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From: David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 27 January, 1998 17:25
Subject: Simple Tech 40MB ATA Flash


>I just got one of the Simple Technology 40MB flash cards.  It was
>cheap, only $270.99 for the card, and I just put it through the paces.
> There was some concern that the Simple Tech cards didn't work when
>voltages fell to under 2.4 volts.  Well, I'm running on a pair of
>Panasonic high-capacity nicads (1100 mAh) and the voltage is at 2.33
>(or 2.34, depending on what program does the reading) and the card is
>still working fine.  It's even still benchmarking at the same speed.
>Maybe the last test was performed using alkalines?  I can't remember.
>In any case, I'm a firm advocate of nicad batteries at least, and
>preferably NiMH batteries.  (The 1350 mAh batteries from Times2 Tech,
>which have consistently been rated the highest, amazed me again
>today... I had left them in my bag since charging them in mid-November
>without doing anything to them since.  Today, I put them in my 200LX,
>thinking they'd be almost dead so I could use them to test the Simple
>Tech card under low power conditions.  Not so; they were still at 2.55
>volts.  Amazing for a NiMH battery.)
>
>Anyway, here are the results for the Simple Tech card, tested numerous
>times (using the standard batch file benchmark, on battery power)
>without SysMan loaded.  The results never deviated from this average by
>more than 0.05 seconds (except under System Manager; then it was slowed
>up by a second or so):
>
>Simple Tech card, with key held down: 5.55 seconds
>Simple Tech card, without key held down: 5.55 seconds
>
>As you can see, this card is not affected by the key-holding "feature."
> All around, including the 5 year warranty, this card is probably the
>best I've seen yet.  And the cheapest, too.
>
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Oops!

Sorry folks, I don't know where the price for the Simple Technology
and Viking flash cards came in at "just over $100 US".  That should
have been "just around $300".  My apologies.  Must be wishful
thinking!  When I said that we were ahead of the rest of the world, I
did not mean on prices either.

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:03:29 -0600
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At 08:22 PM 1/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I just got one of the Simple Technology 40MB flash cards.  It was
>cheap, only $270.99 for the card, and I just put it through the paces.

Me too on the where for such a price (I was quoted $310 for Viking 32MB
Type II and $280 for Viking 32MB CF this evening while @ CompUSA in Plano,
TX).

Does anyone have any feel for using the CF cards from Simple or Viking in
the adaptor.  Longden had expressed concern re daily in&out using the
adaptor, but if I am going to spend that kinda of cash I would like to
maybe/possibly use the CF card with a digital camera in the future.

In addition, any speed data available on Simple vs. Viking? CF card speed
vs Type II?  Warranty differences?

Thanks.
Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:16:02 -0600
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From:         David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Re: Vim brag <-> XTree Gold Rules!
Comments: cc: bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU

   >With all this talk of file previewers, let me brag about Vim a tiny
   >little bit:
   >if you have a filename in your file, eg
   >@echo off
   >echo "Hey, check this out!"
   >cool.bat
   >move the cursor over cool.bat, and open it by typing "gf" {ie (g)o
   >(f)ilename)}! Then return to the first file with 6.
   >--
   >Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.

OK, XTree Gold does just this, highlight an exe, com or bat file
and press x and you get an available mem prompt with a history
list that is editable, run the prog and you can come back and do
it again or type Alt+x and get a shelled out max memory editable
prompt.

XTree Gold rules when you add in it's built in menu system. You
press F9 and get a full screen graphical program launching menu
system. You can even set it up to boot into this and run all your
programs from it like sysmanager, chkdsk, comms packages and
whatever.

Add in the zip file handling, and you have a winner. Version 3.0
has 2.04g compat built in and can span disks on backup/archiving.
You can peer into a zip file and even read the
text/doc/file_id.diz without extracting it!

My 0.02c worth...

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.09 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:12:37 -0800
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Hi, Jeff:

My company, Shore Systems Ltd., resells Viking Components
www.vikingcomponents.com CF cards and modems. Viking is located a short
distance from our Belmont Shore, CA office.

Viking's CF cards are superior to those made by SanDisk for Psion for four
reasons.

First, the read/write speeds are much faster due to Viking's use of the
Lexar www.lexr.com controller. Transfer speeds in burst mode are up to 10MB
per second from host to interface for Viking vs. 5-6MB for SanDisk. Typical,
continuous write speeds are 750Kb per second for Viking vs. 450-500Kb for
SanDisk.

Second, power consumption is lower in sleep and write mode; about 30% less
than SanDisk. Viking's power use is 20-32 mA in 3.3 volt write mode vs.
32-45 mA for SanDisk.

Third, we have much higher capacity cards than SanDisk (32Mb at present;
48Mb in Feb98) at a cost/MB that is 50% less than SanDisk. For instance, our
24MB card sells for $209; the same (and largest) capacity SanDisk card is
sold for $339.

Some concern was expressed that CF cards used with an adapter might be
damaged after extended use. This is simply not the case, as there are no
moving/mechanical parts involved with the adapter. The adapter that is
inserted into a PC Card slot is a regular PC Card. It would be subject to
the same strain that a conventional PC Card would encounter.

Our prices for Viking's cards are: 24Mb/$209 and 32Mb/$269. The 48Mb card,
when available in Feb, will be $349. We provide a 5-yr warranty from Viking
and a 30-day money back exchange policy. We can include an adapter for $15
if you need one for use of the CF card in a notebook PC.

All cards are pretested before ship for HP200LX compatibility. The same card
can be used in any HP3/6x0LX or Psion 5. Ship is $12 overnight in US;
$18/UK; $23/EU and takes 4-5 days to reach your customer's door from LA.

VISA/MC accepted. Orders may be faxed to 562.439.3678 or call 213.848.2450
x207 LA time. If order is emailed, pls break it up into 2 or more msgs for
security reasons.

Pls let me know if you need any further info.

Bernie Torbik btorbik@earthlink.net
Shore Systems Ltd.
Belmont Shore, California 90803-3017

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff MacDowell <jmacdowell@USA.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 27 January, 1998 21:11
Subject: Re: Simple Tech 40MB ATA Flash


>At 08:22 PM 1/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>I just got one of the Simple Technology 40MB flash cards.  It was
>>cheap, only $270.99 for the card, and I just put it through the paces.
>
>Me too on the where for such a price (I was quoted $310 for Viking 32MB
>Type II and $280 for Viking 32MB CF this evening while @ CompUSA in Plano,
>TX).
>
>Does anyone have any feel for using the CF cards from Simple or Viking in
>the adaptor.  Longden had expressed concern re daily in&out using the
>adaptor, but if I am going to spend that kinda of cash I would like to
>maybe/possibly use the CF card with a digital camera in the future.
>
>In addition, any speed data available on Simple vs. Viking? CF card speed
>vs Type II?  Warranty differences?
>
>Thanks.
>Jeff
>
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> PS what does HTH mean?
>

Hope This Helps

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:29:20 -0500
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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> print system("dir");
>does not work because dir is an internal DOS command.  You can only use
>system() to execute external programs.  There is a parameter to

No, it happily executes transient commands like DIR on my desktop compute=
rs
with DOS 6 and 7. I am surprised that it does not work on the LX; it may =
be
a matter of setting the COMSPEC variable as Brendan suggests.

There is not much point in executing DIR since perl has the nice opendir(=
),
readdir() etc commands. But being able to, say, make a copy of a file may=

be useful.

System() basically does a spawn() (or exec()? don't remember offhand) wit=
h
"COMMAND.COM /C " before the command.

Jorgen
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I just downloaded Word 5, but I don't have room for the entire 5MB. What are
the files that I can delete and how small can I make it?

Andy

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:05:34 EST
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In a message dated 98-01-27 22:58:33 EST, you write:

> So, you can create an image on your computer, and then view it on
>  the camera?

Uhh no.  The camera uses a *.K25 special format when creating a picture within
the camera.  Other formats -- i.e. .TIF, .GIF, .JPG -- cannot be viewed in the
camera.  If you use Kodak's software included with the kit, you can move the
.K25 file to your personal computer and modify it which then requires that the
file be saved as a .TIF file (uncompressed).

Using the CF card in the HP200LX allows you some storage by moving the files
from the a drive to c drive.  Of course the more RAM  you have the more you
can store.  I have heard that someone is working on being able to view the
pictures with the HP200LX. Stay tuned...

HTH = Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Robin


>  PS what does HTH mean?
>

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Im an unfortunately poor highschool student in need of a 100lx. I cant have a job
durring the school year, so all I have is about $75 and some computer hardware. I
might be able to offer $100. I realise this may not seem like much, but is all I
have.

carpman@mailcity.com



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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 00:48:29 +1100
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Hi Jorgen,

I just downloaded (from unix to lx) the version of perl you sent me.

The problem I had is now gone. Thanks!

It is also somehow about 50k shorter than the one I had (I think) -
a double bonus!!!


--
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http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren      PROJECT: Inferring `essence of melody'
 The more steeped in the art of programming, the more valued the direct hack

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 06:28:26 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Simple Tech 40MB ATA Flash
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On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Bernard A. Torbik wrote:

> Viking's CF cards are superior to those made by SanDisk for Psion for four
> reasons.

Bernie,

Per the subject line and Jeff's original post (see below), he's
interested (as I am) in Simple Technology's card vs Viking, not SanDisk vs
Viking.

- Longden

> From: Jeff MacDowell <jmacdowell@USA.NET>
> >
> >Does anyone have any feel for using the CF cards from Simple or Viking in
> >the adaptor.  Longden had expressed concern re daily in&out using the
> >adaptor, but if I am going to spend that kinda of cash I would like to
> >maybe/possibly use the CF card with a digital camera in the future.
> >
> >In addition, any speed data available on Simple vs. Viking? CF card speed
> >vs Type II?  Warranty differences?

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 06:49:04 -0800
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Following are the results thus far for the informal 1mb speed test, per
Lynn Cavendish's original suggestion several weeks ago.

This will be my last posting of these figures to the list as I want to
keep down unnecessary bandwidth. The figures have been mostly accumulated
from public postings anyway, and anyone else can continue to add to the
figures on their own (as I will likely do till I get tired of it).

Keep in mind that the figures are only a rough measure of the card
performance...given the variation in clock speeds, available disk space
and whether the respondents had an AC adapter (or fresh batteries).

Thanks to all who responded. I hope others have found the numbers as
useful as I did.

- Longden

Time    Card Type               Notes

  3.46  Internal                Longden Loo (1)
 11.87  Kingston 20mb           - battery
 10.58  "       "               - AC

  3.68  Internal                Jaime Viehweg, (2)
 10.02  IBM 20mb
 40.21  IBM 20mb/Jam

  4.6   Internal                David Sargeant (3)
223.    Pretec,32mb             - normal
 22.    "                       - Ctrl key held down
  7.3   MicroTech,40mb
  5.55  Simple Tech,40mb        (3a)

 11.87   SanDisk, 5mb           David Lawrence (4)

  3.75  Internal                Lynn Cavendish (5)
  4.49  HP F1003A 512K SRAM
 10.19  PNY P-CF008-PA 8 Meg ATA Flash
 26.15  HP 1013A 10 Meg Linear Flash
 77.84  Viking 9610333-02 4 Meg ATA Flash, Stacker 4.0
 21.0           read unstacked, write stacked.
 77.00  Eiger ACF-AT 15 Meg "Film Card", Stacker 4.0
 28.0           read unstacked, write stacked.

  7.0   Internal                hplx@comports.com (6)
 22.0   SunDisk,SDP-10

  3.5   Internal                B Biggers (7)
  6.3   PNY compact flash,4mb
 25.5   IBM 10mb

                                Jorgen Dybdahl (8)
 12.63  Internal                - 214k free on disk
  9.35  Internal                - 341k free on disk
  9.61  Sandisk 10mb compact flash

                                James Grenert (9)
  8.03  Internal                1x LX
  5.49  Internal                2x LX
 19.83  Sundisk, 10mb           1x
 16.59  Sundisk, 10mb           2x, 4k clusters
 15.92  Sundisk, 10mb           2x
 20.59  Sundisk, 20mb           1x
 17.41  Sundisk, 20mb           2x

                                Al Kind (10)
  2.53  Internal                unstacked, disk clean
 15.3   EXP1414LXM, 4mb         unstacked, disk clean
 41.3   Internal                stacked, 40% full
 68.9   EXP1414LXM, 4m          stacked, 80%full

  8.7   Internal                Lawrence Harvey (11)
  9.2   Simple Technology,16mb

-----------------------------------------

Notes: Assume normal 200LX unless otherwise noted

 1. 2x/6mb, Kingston 20mb, DP-ATA/20
 2. 2x/8mb, AC attached
 3. 2x
 3a. Simple Technology 40mb, Part# STI-ATAFL/40,
        from BuyComp
 4. 512 byte sectors
 5. 2x/6mb
 6. Single-speed, NSW upgraded 6MB 200LX with 10MB
        SUndisk SDP-10, formatted with 2K clusters:
 7. IBM card is old, "Thinkpad File", Sundisk.
 8. AC, no compression
 9. Flash was HP branded Sundisk, not Sandisk.
        - 10mb card, no compression, 1k cluster except as
                noted.
        - 20mb card, no compression, 1k clusters
10. 2x/8mb, Stacker 4.1 w ~2:1 compression. AC. NonSysMgr
11. Suspects significant power consumption. Battery life
        dropped by half.

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The test:
- Valid for 200LX, unknown on 100/95LX
- Sample file c123us.hlp is 102,381 bytes long
- Copy operations approximates a 1 megabyte read/write
- Test is run from DOS, on the drive to be tested
- Factors to consider: cluster size, fragmentation, use
        of AC/battery, battery condition, free space.
- Run from DOS in SysMgr or raw DOS.

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@echo off
copy d:\_sys\c123us.hlp test.dat
echo. | time
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
copy test.dat test2.dat
echo. | time
del test.dat
del test2.dat

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:57:41 -0600
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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This may sound rather odd, but I would like to have a copy
of edlin on my 200LX.  I have licensed 3.3, but it gives me
a wrong version error when I try to run it.

I've read on list that I could use setver to enable use of
the 3.3 edlin, but I assume it is a TSR and would rather
avoid it if possible.  Can anyone send me a v5.0 edlin?

As an aside, what are the licensing issues with this?  I'm
assuming the license for DOS 5.0 included with the 200LX
only applies to the pieces supplied on ROM.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:00:52 -0500
Reply-To:     Wayne Schmidt <wayne@smolensk.com>
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I've had problems with my ISP, and so I'm resending; sorry for potentially
wasting bandwidth; please resend information if you have some on either
keyboards for the HP200LX or PCMCIA network cards. Thanks.

--- original - post --
I apologize if this is already covered in the FAQ, or in previous
discussions, but I had some questions regarding the HP200LX.

I want to use the HP200LX I have to pop my mail. What experiences
do members of this list have with PCMCIA network cards?

I'm interested primarily in network cards only, and my criteria are:

        1)      reliability
        2)      ease of installation / maintenance
        3)      power concerns
        4)      price

Also, what is a good recommendation for a PC style keyboard the
HP200LX? I suppose there aren't any keyboard / mouse combos that
work for the HP200LX, but it can't hurt to ask. :-)

I'll summarize the answers; I'm already comfortable with the develop-
ment suite I currently have on the HP i've got, but this would complete
the scene, as it were.


                                                        --wayne -


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Specs - Viking vs. Simple - are

                                       Simple  Viking
Write speed/sec: burst   8.0Mb   10.0Mb
Write speed/sec: contin  650Kb   750Kb
Power consump:  read    65mA    33mA
Power consump:  write    80mA    45mA

Figures obtained from Simple/Viking websites and public domain literature.
Simple uses (or did) an Hitachi controller; Viking uses a Lexar controller.
Both use 64Mb Flash chips, vs. the 32Mb chips used by SanDisk.

I do not have PC Card figures for Simple but would infer that they are the
same as Viking's as both are 5.0 volt cards at this time. Viking's ATA PC
Cards will use the Lexar controller in March or sooner and have dual voltage
capability, as the CF cards have now.

FYI, the comparison to SanDisk was made because many cards are OEMed by
SanDisk for HP, Psion, Kodak, etc.

Hope this answers the questions.

-----Original Message-----
From: Longden C. Loo <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: 28 January, 1998 06:30
Subject: Re: Simple Tech 40MB ATA Flash


>On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Bernard A. Torbik wrote:
>
>> Viking's CF cards are superior to those made by SanDisk for Psion for
four
>> reasons.
>
>Bernie,
>
>Per the subject line and Jeff's original post (see below), he's
>interested (as I am) in Simple Technology's card vs Viking, not SanDisk vs
>Viking.
>
>- Longden
>
>> From: Jeff MacDowell <jmacdowell@USA.NET>
>> >
>> >Does anyone have any feel for using the CF cards from Simple or Viking
in
>> >the adaptor.  Longden had expressed concern re daily in&out using the
>> >adaptor, but if I am going to spend that kinda of cash I would like to
>> >maybe/possibly use the CF card with a digital camera in the future.
>> >
>> >In addition, any speed data available on Simple vs. Viking? CF card
speed
>> >vs Type II?  Warranty differences?
>
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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:06:36 -0600
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I'm probably going back to the world of daily suits & ties after a 2-yr
hiatus.  Unfortunately I won't be able to wear my Eagle Creek pack/purse
with all my 200LX gear and cell phone anymore.  I am considering a Rex for
phonebook and calendar use cuz I don't want a Pilot-thing.

Has anyone tried to use a Rex in the 200LX slot?  The Rex software is
Win95, but I thought someone might have written a program to exchange data
(even one-way from 200LX to Rex would be great!)

Any input or enlightenment as to the impossibility of such a program would
be appreciated.

Thanks.
Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 00:04:01 +0900
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Hi Yi,
Thanks for the info.

Regards,
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    : Fw: PCMCIA XJACK MEGAHERTZ MODEM/FAX $24.99 EACH (fwd)
   M    : 1998 N1  28  11:21

I saw this in an usenet newsgroup, I peronally were interested and
ordered one right away.  I think others on this list might be interested
too.

        Yi

P.S.  Have no connection with the dealer below.

============================================

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On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Ted Heise wrote:

> This may sound rather odd, but I would like to have a copy
> of edlin on my 200LX.  I have licensed 3.3, but it gives me

Truly a "retro" editor...but I guess it was also my staple for a long
time.

> I've read on list that I could use setver to enable use of
> the 3.3 edlin, but I assume it is a TSR and would rather
> avoid it if possible.  Can anyone send me a v5.0 edlin?

I found a copy of AST/MSDOS 5.0 about a year ago and kept it in case I
needed to augment the LX's command set. I never thought about it but just
looking now, I see edlin.exe in my DOS5 directory! (12.6k).

> As an aside, what are the licensing issues with this?  I'm
> assuming the license for DOS 5.0 included with the 200LX
> only applies to the pieces supplied on ROM.

As I understand it, you are licensed to have/use the full DOS 5.0 if you
can find all the pieces.

Email me if you want a copy (in case others are sending it to you also...I
don't want to flood your email chute).

- Longden

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There is this Jap site with the 32Meg upgrade. Can someone who can read the words
do an interpretion? I would be glad to know more about this upgrade.
... The best way to accelerate Windows is at escape velocity.

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At 07:04 AM 1/28/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Specs - Viking vs. Simple - are
>
>                                       Simple  Viking
>Write speed/sec: burst   8.0Mb   10.0Mb
>Write speed/sec: contin  650Kb   750Kb
>Power consump:  read    65mA    33mA
>Power consump:  write    80mA    45mA

So it appears a slight speed tradeoff for lower power consumption.  Recent
comments on Simple cards have indicated noticeable decreased battery life.

The test results that Longden posted this morning (U.S.) show larger speed
differential, but the Viking card was stacked.  Even still, Simple scored
5.55 to 7 and 10x slower for stacking seems high if close to equivalent.
But then again, there is that power consump issue.

>Figures obtained from Simple/Viking websites and public domain literature.
>Simple uses (or did) an Hitachi controller; Viking uses a Lexar controller.
>Both use 64Mb Flash chips, vs. the 32Mb chips used by SanDisk.
>
>I do not have PC Card figures for Simple but would infer that they are the
>same as Viking's as both are 5.0 volt cards at this time. Viking's ATA PC
>Cards will use the Lexar controller in March or sooner and have dual voltage
>capability, as the CF cards have now.

Only Viking's CF cards have Lexar controller now and thus dual voltage?

Bernie:  Thanks for all your timely responses.

Jeff

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On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Jeff MacDowell wrote:

> The test results that Longden posted this morning (U.S.) show larger speed
> differential, but the Viking card was stacked.  Even still, Simple scored
> 5.55 to 7 and 10x slower for stacking seems high if close to equivalent.
> But then again, there is that power consump issue.

Jeff, we may be talking apples and oranges here. The only Viking posted
was a Stacked 4mb ATA....and who knows how old that one may be or which
controller it uses?

Someone with results from a Viking 32mb CF? (or a recent 40mb ATA).

I was going to try some of Bernie's cards, but opted to wait till the
newer 48mb CF's are available in a week or so...to save myself an extra
drive.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 00:44:13 +0800
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Hi,

As I have said many times- I am not a programmer since I don't know much of
it. However, with some studies of Japanese EXM programs and some major help
from for example Toshiki, I have now created an exm program which I call HP
Alarm Clock. The basics is there but since I have to travel for a week or
so, I will not be able do a real good check for bugs. I would like to
release the program very soon since I have worked on it for over a month,
so I would highly appreciate some help. If you have a HP 200LX normal
speed/double speed or a HP 100LX, I would like to hear from you. If you
reply to this message, please let me know which kind of palmtop you have.

What do you have to do? Simply install my EXM program and try it out and
give me your comments such as found bugs and so on. There is no
documentation yet, so just install it and check if you are able to use the
program. I guess this is a good way to see if you are able to use it
without to much problems.

The program: As I know, this will be the first 3rd party EXM program with
an Alarm which can wake up the palmtop and let an alarm sound disturb you.
This even if you exit the program itself.

Why this program: I am playing with my palmtop until late nights or I watch
a good movie on the HBO. So I seldom go to sleep before 2:00 AM. So when
it's time to wake up in the morning, no knowed program (to me) can wake me
up. The ApptBook pip for a few seconds and it's not enough. I also need a
clock with the time in big high resolution numbers. This program will give
you this plus a configurable snooze (5-60 min). If you choose to reply to
this message, please read the small help dialog in the program when you
receive it (F1) so you know how to stop the alarm.

I need about 10- 20 beta testers. if you are not choosen, the program will
hopefully soon be available on the SUPER site (www.palmtop.net). It's not
easy to make an alarm clock which works together with the StopWatch and
ApptBook, that's why I need you as a tester.

Regards,

Jorgen


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I have installed Win 2.03 on my 200lx (on the PCMCIA hard drive F:), but
I have a small problem.

I have SETVER win.com and win200.bin to 3.1 per the blurb that pops up
during unzipping the version that I got. However, after the initial
graphical start-up screen, garbledy-gook slides down the screen and I go
back to the F: prompt. Open running win.com |more, I see that the first
message before the garbledy-gook is Incorrect DOS version.

I wonder if setver from DOS 6.2 is not Really working on the 200lx? When
I do a straight setver on f:\windows, it nicely displays all version
tables for the files on the directory. I've made sure that none of them
are higher than 5.0. The only two vital ones mentioned were the two
above that I changed.

Has anyone already been through this that can share some advice? I was
testing Win 2.03 on a 486dx2 w/ dos 6.2 and it seemed like it may be
useful on the 200lx.

Darren.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:31:38 -0400
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Hi Group.

The following post relates specifically to running microsoft windows on
the 200lx - those who loathe the idea of doing this are warned in
advance and may cash in their tokens now... <g>

 ------------------*--------------*------------*-----------------

There has recently been some discussion about windows/word/excel on the
200lx and perhaps much speculation on just how much it all swallows in
terms of memory, disk space and blood pressure :-) I can't comment on
the last one but i'm happy to provide some tried and tested stats of
the installation on my 2x 5mb 200lx for those who may be interested.

First off let me say that i have skipped win 1 & 2 and have used and
tested only 3.0 since it is the latest release capable of running on
my trusty lx and perhaps the most feature-rich (or bug-rich, all a
matter of your perspective <g>).

Disk Requirements
-----------------

These figures represent my attempts at finding the min. installed size
consistent with a proper look (program groups full of icons that don't
actually point to installed programs <g>) and function. Helpfiles and
utils - including control panel are removed.

Windows main directory:   138k
Windows system directory: 843k
                          ----
                          981K (no need to blink you saw right <g>)
                          =3D=3D=3D=3D

Excel 2.1:                720k
Word 1.0:                 952k

The whole package will 'cost' you (believe it or not): 2653k! But
remember folks: this is the stripped-down version, the full-featured
versions are going to *really* swallow that new CF card you just
got... :-)

Okay you ask: but how much memory do i need? Not that much actually.
Here are my figures:-

                Before loading Win30      After loading*
                --------------------      --------------
Conventional    458,752kb                   305,000kb
EMS**           102,304kb                   N/A ***

*   reported by the program manager's Help, About function.
**  The full ems pool is being shared by Maxdos and win30. Maxdos puts =
its
    swapfile into ems on my machine and the balance is available for =
win30.
    This creates a swap time that would make software carousel cringe =
with
    envy :-)
*** Win 30 does not directly use ems but word and excel can.

As you may have realised, i start windows from *within* the sysmgr
using a 'jp' icon! The time it takes me from the keypress to arrive at
the program manager screen with my mouse emulator all ready to go
is........... 15 seconds - FLAT. That's off a compressed exp's f: drive
too. My 233mmx pentium can't touch that when loading win95 :-)

Finally, here are the free mem figures with excel 2.1 loaded but no
workbook opened:

    Conventional    95k
    EMS             97k

I have noticed that excel uses the ems *first* when opening a file then
drops back to the conventional stuff. The above figures mean that i can
easily manipulate a 150k workbook (or 3-50k workbooks) without
problems.

I believe jeff already has win30 on his ftp site and for those looking
for a thrilling ride.... you've come to the right place...! <g>

Regards,
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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:37:22 -0500
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 I've had problems with my ISP, and so I'm resending; sorry for potentially
 wasting bandwidth; please resend information if you have some on either
 keyboards for the HP200LX or PCMCIA network cards. Thanks.

 --- original - post --
 I apologize if this is already covered in the FAQ, or in previous
 discussions, but I had some questions regarding the HP200LX.

 I want to use the HP200LX I have to pop my mail. What experiences
 do members of this list have with PCMCIA network cards?

 I'm interested primarily in network cards only, and my criteria are:

         1)      reliability
         2)      ease of installation / maintenance
         3)      power concerns
         4)      price

 Also, what is a good recommendation for a PC style keyboard the
 HP200LX? I suppose there aren't any keyboard / mouse combos that
 work for the HP200LX, but it can't hurt to ask. :-)

 I'll summarize the answers; I'm already comfortable with the develop-
 ment suite I currently have on the HP i've got, but this would complete
 the scene, as it were.


                                                         --wayne -


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Does anyone know of an emulator that could run WinCE on an HP  200LX .
Some folks are having luck(?)  with Windows so I was just wondering....

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     Claud & List,

     I installed Win 2.03 and Excel 2.1 on my 200LX with only the addition
     of SETVERM.EXE (Downloaded from www.shareware.com).  I installed Win
     2.03 on my PC as CGA, no mouse, US keyboard and then copied all files
     over to my palmtop.  I was surprised at how well it performed.  I say
     performED because I removed it the next day.  Although the performance
     is fine, the built-in applications are much better than those
     available for Win 2.03 (I feel a flame coming).

     Sincerely,
     Dennis Faucher
     Consultant
     Hewlett-Packard Company
     Burlington, MA
     (617) 221-5090
     dennis_faucher@hp.com

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HP>I just got one of the Simple Technology 40MB flash cards.  It was
HP>cheap, only $270.99 for the card, and I just put it through the paces.

   270 !!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

   i've paid 900 here in argentina !!! jesus  !!!!!! :(


   Martin
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Dennis Faucher wrote:
>
>      Claud & List,
>
>      I installed Win 2.03 and Excel 2.1 on my 200LX with only the addition
>      of SETVERM.EXE (Downloaded from www.shareware.com).  I installed Win
>      2.03 on my PC as CGA, no mouse, US keyboard and then copied all files
>      over to my palmtop.  I was surprised at how well it performed.  I say
>      performED because I removed it the next day.  Although the performance
>      is fine, the built-in applications are much better than those
>      available for Win 2.03 (I feel a flame coming).
>
No flame coming from here, I love the built in apps. I just want a few
features of windows and need to use up some space on the PCMCIA hard
drive. I put desqview on there, but it's boring. I don't really need to
multitask, just task switch anyway.

Darren

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:17:52 -0500
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              Nedim <nedim@ATHENS.NET>
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Why should you be expecting flames? We are not Mac users ;->
If you hate Windows, hate it. If you love it, love it. That's your personal
thing.
I personally like it (especially NT).
Just the fact that we all use DOS (on 200s) is enough for
shutdowntheinternet amount of flame for some people.

Nedim.

At 01:09 PM 1/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
>     is fine, the built-in applications are much better than those
>     available for Win 2.03 (I feel a flame coming).
>
>     Sincerely,
>     Dennis Faucher

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Hi!

Glad to hear of your program!   I have looked for an alarm for some time to
wake me up to attend to things.    (I am a high school/college teacher and
teach 4 eves a week....sometimes a take a quick cat nap in the afternoon and
am always afraid I will sleep through the time I need to leave.)

I have a LX200 with 8 mg. mem.    I use it as my "mind" because I seem to
forget things I need to do!   (Subconscious messages!)

Would like to help you if I can.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:25:52 -0800
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Well, it sure isn't mentioned in the user's manual for WWW/LX, and heaven
forbid if you have to get in touch with the software's vendor to find out
how the program works, or one of the program's features.

BTW, I still haven't seen the replacement diskette for WWW/LX.

>X-Sender: sponsor@ftel.net
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>Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:06:19 -0800
>To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
>        "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@ix.netcom.com>
>From: A Meshar <sonsor@ftel.net>
>Subject: Re: Bookmark.htm, WWW/LX
>
>At 01:53 PM 1/27/98 -0800, you wrote:
>>Just thought I'd pass along this - I transferred my bookmark file from
>>Netscape 3.01 to the WWW/LX directory, thinking I would have to modify it
>>to work with HV.  Low and behold, I tried to use it while connected via
>>WWW.EXE, and it WORKED!  Went right to the URLs using the associated names
>>(in English).  Of course, you have to be careful, because not all sites
>>work well with HV.
>
>Well, that is no wonder! The bookmark file is formatted like an HTML
>document. HV sees the links just like any others.
>
>I see you are having fun with this!!! Good.
>
>Avi Meshar
>D&A Software, Inc.
>
>

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:54:54 -0800
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Has anyone tried using the FTP program with WWW/LX?  I have tried running
it as directed in the documentation file, but no luck.  The program
responds with something like "correct usage is a:\www\ftp
<ftp.server.name>" or something along that line.

Statements I have used include:

www "!FTP ftp.server.name"                      |  method mentioned in the documentation

www ftp.exe "ftp.server.name"

www ftp.exe <ftp.server.name>

www <!ftp ftp.server.name>

etc., etc., etc.

using the WWW commands, www disconnects from the ppp connection and returns
to DOS.  I've tried it through the externals menu in reader.exe via the DOS
box, from WWWMENU, etc.

Has anyone had better luck?

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     Hi!
     This is exactly why I love this forum. We all use and to some extend
     love this thing called 200LX. When I was with the WinCE group as soon
     as you only mildly criticized the OPSys people where ready to lynch
     you if they could get a hold of you.

     Helmut in Colorado

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 10:17:04 +1300
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Comments: cc: AndyMD@AOL.COM

   >I just downloaded Word 5, but I don't have room for the entire 5MB.
   >What are the files that I can delete and how small can I make it?
   >Andy

If you d/l'd this from ftp.scott.net/pub/users/jeffj/ then you
have the full install package that goes onto 360k disks. This of
course has all the files for every printer known to man at that
time, plus many other utilities not necessary on an LX.

The best advice I can give is to put the files onto floppies, you
can cram several 320k's worth onto one 1.4 and do an install and
choose your options carefully to get a small result.

HTH

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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   >I'm probably going back to the world of daily suits & ties after a
   >2-yr hiatus.  Unfortunately I won't be able to wear my Eagle Creek
   >pack/purse with all my 200LX gear and cell phone anymore.  I am

Have you seen the various shoulder holsters available? Under a
suit jacket, they sure add credo, and a certain kind of
power-play as you reach under your jacket...


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Subject:      Re: Windows 2.03 on 200lx, slight prob.
Comments: To: DFrick@mail.snip.net

   >I have installed Win 2.03 on my 200lx (on the PCMCIA hard drive F:),
   >but I have a small problem.
   >I have SETVER win.com and win200.bin to 3.1 per the blurb that pops
   >up during unzipping the version that I got. However, after the
   >initial graphical start-up screen, garbledy-gook slides down the
   >screen and I go back to the F: prompt. Open running win.com |more,
   >I see that the first message before the garbledy-gook is Incorrect
   >DOS version.
   >I wonder if setver from DOS 6.2 is not Really working on the 200lx?
   >When I do a straight setver on f:\windows, it nicely displays all
   >version tables for the files on the directory. I've made sure that

At the end of the table listing, is that it, or does it say
"Setver not loaded, add to your config.sys"?
You need setver.exe from dos 5.0 or setverm from
www.shareware.com


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:30:50 -0600
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I got an extra copy of the Palmtop Paper this month.  $3 for priority mail
shipping and it's yours.

J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Hi.
I'm trying to run Pinball Magic.  This game uses the SHIFT keys as flipper
controls.  With the sticky SHIFT keys, they get stuck in the up position.
Is there any way to disable the sticky SHIFT?

Thanks for any help.
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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:36:39 -0800
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At 12:54 PM 1/28/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Has anyone had better luck?

Hi Claud,
The ftp.exe should be in the same directory as hv.exe, and look under
Services in your hv.cfg and remove the -> ; from ftp=ftp %s

Then when you want to visit a ftp site in WWW/LX open just replace
http:// with ftp. and that should do the trick.

Hope this help,

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At 10:17 AM 1/29/98 +1300, you wrote:
>   >I'm probably going back to the world of daily suits & ties after a
>   >2-yr hiatus.  Unfortunately I won't be able to wear my Eagle Creek
>   >pack/purse with all my 200LX gear and cell phone anymore.  I am
>
>Have you seen the various shoulder holsters available? Under a
>suit jacket, they sure add credo, and a certain kind of
>power-play as you reach under your jacket...

David,

I live in Texas -- a state with concealed handgun permits.  I can just see
me getting out of my car after an accident or being pulled over by the TX
Rangers and as I reach in my "holster" to get my insurance information in
my 200LX pocket brain, I get  mistakenly gunned down by the other driver or
cop b/c he/she thinks I am reaching "for something else".

Good idea, but I think I keep my power-play to a bold-patterned tie : ).

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:46:54 -0500
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              Jim Saklad <jsaklad@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: FTP and WWW/LX
Comments: To: "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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> Has anyone tried using the FTP program with WWW/LX?  I have tried running
> it as directed in the documentation file, but no luck.  The program
> responds with something like "correct usage is a:\www\ftp
> <ftp.server.name>" or something along that line.
>
> Statements I have used include:
>
> www "!FTP ftp.server.name"                      |  method mentioned in the documentation

This works for me, to my own account at least.

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>I live in Texas -- a state with concealed handgun permits.  I can just=
 see
>me getting out of my car after an accident or being pulled over by=
 the TX
>Rangers and as I reach in my "holster" to get my insurance information=
 in
>my 200LX pocket brain, I get  mistakenly gunned down by the other driver=
 or
>cop b/c he/she thinks I am reaching "for something else".
>Good idea, but I think I keep my power-play to a bold-patterned tie=
 : ).

On the other hand, you could always strap a whole bunch of 200LX's to=
 your chest with the holster and have the bullets bounce off the durable=
 case.  <g> (For those who don't get the reference, you haven't read=
 my latest editorial.)

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:34:03 -0800
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              Joe Barrera <joebar@MICROSOFT.COM>
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Subject:      DOS apps v. Win 3.0 apps RE: Win 2.03

There's something about runnning Win 2.03 (or 1.0!) in 1998 that's just
really cool, at least to me. Part of it is that I'm a bit of a
technological-antiques collector (old computers, calculators, telephones,
etc.), and I guess part of it is that I work at Microsoft but only joined in
1992. At that point, Win 3.1 had already made it big, Windows NT was within
months of being released, and the difference between PC and "real computer"
had pretty much disappeared. In other words, PCs had already begun matching
X/Unix for bloatware.

At any rate, it does seem like the available DOS apps are better than the
Windows apps available for even Win 3.0 (running under real mode). E.g.,
Word 6.0 for DOS is much more complete than Word 1.1 for Windows (the last
version that runs in real mode... it's a real shame that Word 2.0 for
Windows doesn't run in real mode).

- Joe

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        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Nedim SMTP:nedim@ATHENS.NET
        Sent:   Wednesday, January 28, 1998 1:18 PM
        To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Re: Win 2.03

        Why should you be expecting flames? We are not Mac users ;->
        If you hate Windows, hate it. If you love it, love it. That's your
personal
        thing.
        I personally like it (especially NT).
        Just the fact that we all use DOS (on 200s) is enough for
        shutdowntheinternet amount of flame for some people.

        Nedim.

        At 01:09 PM 1/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
        >     is fine, the built-in applications are much better than those
        >     available for Win 2.03 (I feel a flame coming).
        >
        >     Sincerely,
        >     Dennis Faucher

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From:         Jim Saklad <jsaklad@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Simple Tech 40MB ATA Flash
Comments: To: "Bernard A. Torbik" <btorbik@earthlink.net>
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> Third, we have much higher capacity cards than SanDisk (32Mb at present;
> 48Mb in Feb98) at a cost/MB that is 50% less than SanDisk. For instance, our
> 24MB card sells for $209; the same (and largest) capacity SanDisk card is
> sold for $339.

Sandisk sells an 85-meg card, available mail-order for <$800.

When can I get a 64, 85, or 128 meg card from Viking?

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:15:21 GMT
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              Tony Hutchins <tonyhut@IBM.NET>
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> Has anyone tried using the FTP program with WWW/LX?  I have tried =
running
> it as directed in the documentation file, but no luck.  The program
> responds with something like "correct usage is a:\www\ftp
> <ftp.server.name>" or something along that line.
>
> Statements I have used include:
>
> www "!FTP ftp.server.name"                      |  method mentioned in =
the documentation

That's the one that works for me. Eg:

www  "!FTP ftp.gmd.de"

I have WWW/LX and FTP.EXE in the same directory.

Regards, Tony

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:23:37 -0600
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I just found out how to FTP with the built-in in Netscape
Communicator. The form that worked is
ftp://anonymous@ftp.scott.use .........
This is for the common "anonymous" servers. You then get
asked for a password - supply your email address.

Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> Has anyone tried using the FTP program with WWW/LX?  I have tried running
> it as directed in the documentation file, but no luck.  The program
> responds with something like "correct usage is a:\www\ftp
> <ftp.server.name>" or something along that line.
>
> Statements I have used include:
>
> www "!FTP ftp.server.name"                      |  method mentioned in the documentation
>
> www ftp.exe "ftp.server.name"
>
> www ftp.exe <ftp.server.name>
>
> www <!ftp ftp.server.name>
>
> etc., etc., etc.
>
> using the WWW commands, www disconnects from the ppp connection and returns
> to DOS.  I've tried it through the externals menu in reader.exe via the DOS
> box, from WWWMENU, etc.
>
> Has anyone had better luck?
>
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I know that NSW is getting out of the memory upgrade business. I have a
question.

I got my one meg lx upgraded to five meg recently. I just found a great deal
on a four meg lx. Is it possible to swap the upgrade into the 4meg? How much
will I have then? Can I install the memory board (2meg?) from the four meg lx
into the, now modified, one meg lx?

My wife gets the second lx, either way?


Thanks,
Dennis

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:02:40 -0800
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Well, I'm from Texas (not lucky enough to still live there), and if the
Rangers pull you over, then you've done something else besides drive too
fast.  The Rangers are like a SWAT team - you know, the ones that got
Bonnie and Clyde.

At 03:40 PM 1/28/98 -0600, you wrote:
>At 10:17 AM 1/29/98 +1300, you wrote:
>>   >I'm probably going back to the world of daily suits & ties after a
>>   >2-yr hiatus.  Unfortunately I won't be able to wear my Eagle Creek
>>   >pack/purse with all my 200LX gear and cell phone anymore.  I am
>>
>>Have you seen the various shoulder holsters available? Under a
>>suit jacket, they sure add credo, and a certain kind of
>>power-play as you reach under your jacket...
>
>David,
>
>I live in Texas -- a state with concealed handgun permits.  I can just see
>me getting out of my car after an accident or being pulled over by the TX
>Rangers and as I reach in my "holster" to get my insurance information in
>my 200LX pocket brain, I get  mistakenly gunned down by the other driver or
>cop b/c he/she thinks I am reaching "for something else".
>
>Good idea, but I think I keep my power-play to a bold-patterned tie : ).
>
>Jeff
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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:16:51 -0500
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I would like to sell my HP 200LX, 2 meg RAM and HP 95, 1 meg RAM. Both =
units are in VERY good condition. First, what is a fair price for them? =
And, second is anyone interested?

In addition to the two palm tops, I also have:
    ACE Game Card vol. I (misc games for HP95, most work on the HP200)
    Sharp Wizard Case, black simulated leather (good case for either HP)
    ACE AppMan software (DOS application run-time manager)
    Project Kick Start software (project management program)
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Subscriber's Disk of software
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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:51:13 +1100
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Subject:      Re: PCMCIA XJACK MEGAHERTZ MODEM/FAX $24.99 EACH (fwd)
In-Reply-To:  <19980128150929423.AAB170@tecra720ct> from "Kenji Kume" at Jan
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This sounds Too Good To Be True.

Did you yet received the modem that you ordered?

> I saw this in an usenet newsgroup, I peronally were interested and
> ordered one right away.  I think others on this list might be interested
> too.
>         Yi
> P.S.  Have no connection with the dealer below.


>  BRAND NEW  MEGAHERTZ BRAND X-JACK PCMCIA Data/Fax Modems.
> These units are
> complete and  INTERNET  ready. They are 14.4 Data and 14.4 Fax. They will
> work
> in any laptop that has a free PCMCIA Slot. Also work in PDA s. I am selling
> them for only $24.99 each. Please email an address and I will send to you.
>
> Shipping is $3 Per Order No Matter How Many You Order / COD Add $4.75
> Credit Card Orders (Save COD Fee) Email/Fax Or Call in CC # And Exp Date on
> CC
> Warranty is 30 Days (Minus Shipping)
> Thanx in advance for you order JON41NY

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:23:27 -0500
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      Re: Simple Tech 40MB ATA Flash
Comments: To: Jeff MacDowell <jmacdowell@USA.NET>
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Could someone explain what advantages or disadvantages exist between type
II cards and the CF cards (other than the need for an adapter for the CF
cards)?

I am familiar with PCMCIA cards but have never heard of the CF cards until
this thread started.

Jeff


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Subject:      Battery levels

This is a problem that has bothered me ever since I moved from my old
100LX to my 200LX, so I thought to put it out for thoughts.

Using alkaline batteries in both cases and same flashcard in both:

Using my 100LX I used to change batteries when buddy told me that the
voltage was at 2.42.  During several years I never received a warning of
low battery.

Using my 200LX, I get a "main battery low" warning when BUDDY says the
voltage is 2.62 and SETUP shows the battery to still be 3/4 full!

Obviously I change the battery then but have been perplexed at the
difference in behavior.

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:01:48 -0500
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Hi group-

Has anyone successfully DL'd and unzipped the new version of PE (v2.1)?
Tried twice from the D&A site about a week ago - once with WWW/LX and
once with a UNIX shell acct.  Both times I get the msg "Error in ZIP
file - use PKZIPFIX to fix".  Try this and everything is OK except for=
 a
CRC error in the doc.  Trying to read anyway shows the doc turns into
garbage in the middle.

Wrote to D&A last week, but haven't heard back...

Mitch now has this on SUPER, so I tried again from the shell acct, but
same old thing...

-PR

Peniel Romanelli   peniel@web2000.net   d021785c@dc.seflin.org
    *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:06:09 +1100
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Subject:      Re: HP200LX and WinCE??
In-Reply-To:  <c=CA%a=GOVMT.CANADA%p=GC+EC%l=ECVANCOUVER-980128175424Z-16477@ecvancouver.pwc.bc.doe.ca> from
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> Does anyone know of an emulator that could run WinCE on an HP  200LX .
> Some folks are having luck(?)  with Windows so I was just wondering....

Don't be silly!  :)
a) it would be too slow on the hp200lx - this inefficiency is essentially
the problem with recent software. They are now accustomed to having
resources to burn.

b) Apart from the GUI, WinCE doesn't enable you to do anything you can't
already do better on a hp200lx; word processing, spreadsheets, programming.


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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:11:15 +1100
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Subject:      Re: Turning off sticky SHIFT keys?
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SOL.3.96.980128153058.5306D-100000@feynman> from "James P.
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> Hi.
> I'm trying to run Pinball Magic.  This game uses the SHIFT keys as flipper
> controls.  With the sticky SHIFT keys, they get stuck in the up position.
> Is there any way to disable the sticky SHIFT?
Cool idea. Here is just a pointer to the solution-
At the DOS prompt, type

        key200

Running key200.com without an argument gives you a help screen.

Look at D:\bin\key200.txt for a little tutorial.

Good luck.


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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:13:32 +1100
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Subject:      Re: DOS apps v. Win 3.0 apps RE: Win 2.03
In-Reply-To:  <4D0A23B3F74DD111ACCD00805F31D81003786188@red-msg-50.dns.microsoft.com> from "Joe Barrera" at Jan 28,
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> Word 6.0 for DOS is much more complete than Word 1.1 for Window
Tell me, is there a version of Word for DOS that does not need Windows?
Ie that just runs from the DOS prompt?


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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:11:43 +0700
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I have a 1MB HP100LX with totally broken right latch & no
battery cover.  Everything else (screen, keyboard, memory, etc.)
still work perfectly.

If anybody interested, I will sell just the unit itself
(no manual).  Make an offer and please pay for the shipping
from Jakarta, Indonesia (I will inform the shipping cost
for approval before sending it).

Rgds,
Sentot Adiprasena
http://come.to/sentot
http://www.poboxes.com/sentot

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To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu <HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu>
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 4:44 AM
Subject: WTB: 100LX or 200LX motherboard

I'm looking for a 100LX or 200LX motherboard . If anyone has a damaged
100LX / 200LX and would like to sell the motherboard please let me know.

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On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> already do better on a hp200lx; word processing, spreadsheets, programming.

_Especially_ programming.

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:51:55 +1030
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.SPS.MOT.COM>
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I have put together a collection of freeware software packages for the
HP200LX palmtop that provide PPP connectivity from within the System
Manager.  The collection is called "LXPPP", and version 0.4 beta is
now available from my web site.

The first goal of LXPPP is that it should be possible to connect to
your ISP via PPP and transfer email between your POP mailbox and your
HP200LX without having to exit from the System Manager.

The second goal of LXPPP is that you should be able to do this without
paying anyone any money for the software.

The third goal of LXPPP is that you should be able to modify and
recompile the software on the HP200LX (assuming you've got Borland C++
2.0 and a large enough flash card).

The current functionality allows you to connect to your ISP via a PPP
packet driver, upload outgoing news and mail from your Palmtop News
Reader (PNR) reply directory and download incoming mail to your PNR
spool directory.  I hope to include a complete set of utilities for
all those things you're used to doing under Unix (like ping, ftp,
telnet, etc.) - hopefully I can get the source code to these.

There is not much documentation as yet, but I have made the source
code available in a separate file.  For those of you who are very
brave, this package will allow you to retrieve your POP mail from a
DOS box inside System Manager using less than 150k of memory, and then
read it using pnrti and pnr.

To use this package, you will need to know how to install a PPP packet
driver and how to configure a WATTCP.CFG file.  Instructions for doing
these things can be found in the dosppp and wattcp packages.  I have
included links to these packages on my web site.  If you have never
used PPP on your palmtop before, then you may find this difficult to
install and use (on the other hand, you might get it to work first
time and be completely satisfied).

If you get LXPPP to work, please send me email.  If you get it to
work, and find a bug, definately send me email.  If you can get your
PPP connection to work (i.e. you can PING other hosts), but can't get
LXPPP to work, please send me email and I'll try to help you.  If you
can't get your PPP connection to work, then you're on your own until
the production release of LXPPP.

When LXPPP is stable, I will submit it to the S.U.P.E.R. site (where
it will join my ExmBatch package, which also includes source code).

-- Rod Whitby (rwhitby@geocities.com)
-- Web: <http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/8287/>
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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:40:33 -0800
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              Joe Barrera <joebar@MICROSOFT.COM>
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Comments: To: Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>

        From:   Brendan Macmillan SMTP:bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU

        Tell me, is there a version of Word for DOS that does not need
Windows?
        Ie that just runs from the DOS prompt?

Yes, Word 6.0 for DOS runs straight from the DOS prompt, no Windows
required. I believe it came out in 1993. I am pretty sure that Microsoft
doesn't sell it anymore.

- Joe

Joseph S. Barrera III <joebar@acm.org>
<http://research.microsoft.com/~joebar/>
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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:41:24 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
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Subject:      Re: Memory upgrade

> I know that NSW is getting out of the memory upgrade business. I have a
> question.
>
> I got my one meg lx upgraded to five meg recently. I just found a great deal
> on a four meg lx. Is it possible to swap the upgrade into the 4meg? How much
> will I have then? Can I install the memory board (2meg?) from the four meg lx
> into the, now modified, one meg lx?
>
> My wife gets the second lx, either way?
>

I won't swear to this but I think you could take the extra 4M daughter card
from the upgraded 5M machine and swap it with the 2M daughter card in the
4M machine and end up with a 6M and a 3M, or I could be totally wrong. I
think I remember that the new 4M machines were 2M on the motherboard and 2M
on the daughter card, anyone want to confirm that?



Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Business Division
Tidewater Community College

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:20:38 -0600
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              Alan Peres <aperes@MCS.NET>
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>I'm sure that this has been asked before but I am new to the list. What
>exactly is it? I see it mentioned on the list quite often.
>

Info Select is a free-form text database.

It's like a pile of electronic sticky-notes. You can enter random bits of
information and quickly search for all the tidbits having to do with a
particular word or words.

The great thing is you do not have to set up any forms or structures ahead
of time. Great for people that collect lots of random information for their
jons or life.

I've been using it for several years and can't do without it.

Alan

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:07:15 -0500
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I was wondering if anyone can point me to a website  that has files for
different alarm tones (for the musically inclined) for the HPLX or has any
music for the HPLX.
Thanks,
Jim J.
Carmel, IN
e-mail:  jjohnson@tmcc.com

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              Bob Graham <bgraham@ALOHA.NET>
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Another alternative is to use a custom alarm that works directly with the
ApptBook PIM. I've been using one for years now that is only 540 bytes.  It
starts low and then increases in sound for 2 more levels.  The bottom line
is that it has NEVER failed to wake me even with hours of jet lag.  Also it
can be heard above car ambient noise -- but not a motorcycle.<grin>

Aloha - bob     \ooo_

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:52:34 -0800
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              "David R. Birch" <drbirch@EXECPC.COM>
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I'm looking for a network card that will work in my 200LX and a notebook
that also has a Type II slot.  Our network at work uses 10BaseT cabling,
but I don't know what else I need to know to buy the right card.  Can
anyone tell me what I need to know about the network to talk to vendors?

David

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In a message dated 98-01-28 18:44:42 EST, davidsa@accessnv.com writes:

<< Yes, you can put the 4MB board on your 4MB LX.  You would then have
 6MB, and a spare 2MB board.  The 2MB board could go in your other LX,
 for a total of 3MB. >>

David,
Thanks for the info on the memory. I'll have to try a brain transplant.

Thanks,
Dennis

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:05:47 -0800
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At 03:40 PM 1/28/1998 -0600, Jeff MacDowell wrote:
>At 10:17 AM 1/29/98 +1300, you wrote:
>>
>>Have you seen the various shoulder holsters available? Under a
>>suit jacket, they sure add credo, and a certain kind of
>>power-play as you reach under your jacket...
>________________________________________________

I work (architect) in a County Courthouse in CA - I had a baliff pull a 9mm
hand gun on me one fine AM while I was carrying a drafting machine (tool
from the slide rule era if anyone's old enuff to remember) to our plans
vault.  I'd stay away from holsters. ( I wear a suit & tie too).... no, he
didn't apologize, either.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:15:09 -0800
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Subject:      Re: HP 200LX & 95 For Sale
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At 07:16 PM 1/28/1998 -0500, you wrote:
>    I would like to sell my HP 200LX, 2 meg RAM and  HP 95, 1 meg RAM.
_________________________________________________________

I'm interesed in both but don't know fair pricing - I'd go $50 for the
95lx, maybe a bit more on an auction basis ; would you consider a straight
trade for a 300LX fo ryour 200.  NEW, complete (had it since Jan
1)otherwise - you tell me a price that's fair to you & I'll reply ASAP
Thanks!

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Hi Guys & Gals:

        On Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:01:48 -0500,
Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> wrote on HPLX-L:

> Has anyone successfully DL'd and unzipped the new version of PE
> (v2.1)?...

I just tried both sites. Both sites have a file size of 64,512 but the
D&A site claims the file is 73K. I think that is the problem.

Cheers,


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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:29:31 +1100
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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> I was wondering if anyone can point me to a website  that has files for
> different alarm tones (for the musically inclined) for the HPLX or has any
> music for the HPLX.

Jim,

Check out LXMIDI on the SUPER site. It plays polyphonic music through
the speaker in your hplx! This is a very cool piece of software that
you are obligated to try if you are interested in music on your hplx. :)
Note that there is a limitation on sound-quality...

There are many MIDI files available on the web; some of them very good.
There are also many folk songs in ABC notation - and a ABC2MIDI converter
is available. An idea: put some MIDI files on the SUPER site. Unfortunately,
I've wiped mine for the moment: Sweet Lullaby (deep forest); and another
unnamed one...

I don't know how you would invoke this program from the alarm - that's
what you want; but I'm sure that Jorgen could arrange an option for
his alarm program that invokes a batch file when the alarm goes off...
(like UNIX cron and at)


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http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren      PROJECT: Inferring `essence of melody'
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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:28:12 -0600
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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:28:01 EST
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I use the EXP ThinFax modem on my Gateway 2000 Colorbook (right now in fact)
with very few problems.  Be sure to set up the Cirrus drivers properly (you
can find this information from your computer company's web site, etc.) and set
your communications program to "generic modem"  I have not figured out how to
access the memory on the card, however.  The ThinFax manual is actually pretty
helpful overall in this regard.

Good luck
Nick

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On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Dennis Faucher wrote:

DE> I installed Win 2.03 and Excel 2.1 on my 200LX with only the addition
DE> of SETVERM.EXE (Downloaded from www.shareware.com).

DE> I was surprised at how well it performed.  I say
DE> performED because I removed it the next day.  Although the performance
DE> is fine, the built-in applications are much better than those
DE> available for Win 2.03 (I feel a flame coming).

Dennis, for the most part i agree with you. The phonebook, apptbook,
database etc.. are all very solid performers and i wouldn't trade them
either. However, the weakest link in the built-in apps (100 & 200lx)
has widely been regarded as its word processing capability. Just look
at a psion or winCE machine and you'll see my point. <g>

Also, for users who have need for a more versatile spreadsheet program
than the 123 in the rom and carry only the 200lx, windows offers some
exciting possibilities and makes both the psion and winCE units pale
by comparison...

BTW: Thanks for your candid comments on the performance :-)

Regards,
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aarg!!, somehow I've totally messed up my 15 meg flash disk by
undeleting some files and renaming them.  Now I've got a bunch of
directories within directories with garbage characters for names that I
can't delete because the filer says it can't find them and it goes on
from there...

I just want to start from scratch.  It's an IBM thinkpad file card, on
the back it says SUNDISK.  I'm hazy on MS-Dos and and need to know the
specific command for reformatting the flash card, or do I need a special
utility.  Any help would be great before I start messing around and get
myself in deeper

mike

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Jim Johnson wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone can point me to a website  that has files for
> different alarm tones (for the musically inclined) for the HPLX or has any
> music for the HPLX.

The SUPER site just added a file w/ lots of alarm music in it.

Darren

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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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On 1998-01-29 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
snip

  >There are many MIDI files available on the web; some of them very
   >good. There are also many folk songs in ABC notation - and a
   >ABC2MIDI converter is available. An idea: put some MIDI files on
   >the SUPER site. Unfortunately, I've wiped mine for the moment:
   >Sweet Lullaby (deep forest); and another unnamed one...
   >I don't know how you would invoke this program from the alarm -
   >that's what you want; but I'm sure that Jorgen could arrange an
   >option for his alarm program that invokes a batch file when the
   >alarm goes off... (like UNIX cron and at)

There's a way to run a program from the appointment book to run at a
specific time. I don't remember how but I know I've done it. I think it
was in the FAQ.


           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
      " He who lives without folly is less wise than he believes "

If you suspect a man, don't employ him.

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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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The problem is that the ApptBook has never been able to wake me up- I am a
heavy sleeper!
But my new HP AlarmClock program has never failed.

Jorgen
>Another alternative is to use a custom alarm that works directly with the
>ApptBook PIM. I've been using one for years now that is only 540 bytes.  It
>starts low and then increases in sound for 2 more levels.  The bottom line
>is that it has NEVER failed to wake me even with hours of jet lag.  Also it
>can be heard above car ambient noise -- but not a motorcycle.<grin>
>
>Aloha - bob     \ooo_
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Subject:      Lotus 123

Hi all, I just got back from the public library with a prize, a book
called The Hidden Power of Lotus 123: Using Macros by Richard W.
Ridington, Jr. and Mark M. Williams. ISBN 0-89303-517-3

I can heartily recommend this book to anybody wanting to explore the
further reaches of on of the palmtops built in apps.

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Subject:      Word 5.0 and 5.5 for dos...
Comments: cc: bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU

On 1998-01-29 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:13:32 +1100
   >Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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   >98 02:34:03 pm
   >Tell me, is there a version of Word for DOS that does not need
   >Windows? Ie that just runs from the DOS prompt?

Try ftp.scott.net/pub/users/jeffj/ for Word 5.0 (My favorite) and 5.5
for dos.
David Lawrence
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Subject:      Re: Win 3.0 stats...
Comments: cc: imelv@TSTT.NET.TT

   >Hi Group.
   >The following post relates specifically to running microsoft
   >windows on the 200lx - those who loathe the idea of doing this are

<Snip>
   >Before loading Win30      After loading*
   >--------------------      --------------
   >Conventional    458,752kb                   305,000kb
   >EMS**           102,304kb                   N/A ***
   >*   reported by the program manager's Help, About function.
   >**  The full ems pool is being shared by Maxdos and win30. Maxdos
   >puts its
<Snip>
   >swapfile into ems on my machine and the balance is available for
   >win30.

The ems you speak of, whence commeth it? I have tried emm200 with NO
success with any version of windows...

David Lawrence
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hi joe

of cource microsoft to sell it now,
the file of this version are the same of the windows version : )
If you can send it to me,
I'll put it on my abandonware site.
It'll be available for all
regard
al

> Yes, Word 6.0 for DOS runs straight from the DOS prompt, no Windows
> required. I believe it came out in 1993. I am pretty sure that Microsoft
> doesn't sell it anymore.
>
> - Joe
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:34:46 -0100
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Subject:      Keyboard control
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On 1928- 0-We HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >Hi David,
   >I think at one time, you said there was a utility to 'return control
   >to
   >the keyboard', or something like that.  I've gotten Win3 to run,

Windows 3.0 does not need setver, Windows 2.0 does, though.

   >using SetVer from DOS 6.2.  Only problem is in turning the HP off
   >while Win3 is running.

You need sleepon.zip from the super site www.palmtop.net/super.html


David Lawrence
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Subject:      Re: cc:Mail on the HP Palmtop
Comments: cc: collins_dr@COMPUSERVE.COM

On 1998-01-25 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >I am waging a campaign to ask Lotus Corp. to fix the cc:Mail mobile
   >progr= am
   >to be more useful on our Palmtops.  My suggestion to them is to

Hi Donald,

Have you tried @palmtop.com???

If you are in the states, it is a killer setup. Unfortunately, I live
in Auckland New Zealand and the call price was a turn off, but I tried
it for a month free (except for the international Telecom monopoly
money rate!) and the service is flawless!

It sure was nice to be able to use cc:Mail mobile in the palmtop as it
is fully sysmanager compliant, as opposed to nettamer which requires
me to shell out to dos and there is no cut-n-paste and no switching
between apps.

David Lawrence
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>I got my one meg lx upgraded to five meg recently. I just found a great deal
>on a four meg lx. Is it possible to swap the upgrade into the 4meg? How much
>will I have then? Can I install the memory board (2meg?) from the four meg lx
>into the, now modified, one meg lx?

The 4MB model is just a 2MB model with a 2MB daughterboard. You'll have to
replace it by the 4MB daughterboard with which you upgraded your 1MB
machine. Then, you can always put that 2MB board in the 1;B model for a
total of 3MB.

By the way, the daughterboard in the 4MB model, is designed for TWO DRAM
chips. Just soldering a second one would be enough to get 6MB, and the
required chips are easy to get, mainly from old laptop memory upgrades.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:41:03 -0500
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              Damien Gardner <damien_gardner@EOL.IEAUST.ORG.AU>
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Jeff,

Have you told the 200LX that you're using Ni-Cd's?   Just a Thought!

Regards,

Damien Gardner Jnr
Acting Administrator,
Engineering OnLine, Australia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>From:    Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
>Subject: Battery levels
>This is a problem that has bothered me ever since I moved from my old
>100LX to my 200LX, so I thought to put it out for thoughts.
>Using alkaline batteries in both cases and same flashcard in both:
>Using my 100LX I used to change batteries when buddy told me that the
>voltage was at 2.42.  During several years I never received a warning of
>low battery.
>Using my 200LX, I get a "main battery low" warning when BUDDY says the
>voltage is 2.62 and SETUP shows the battery to still be 3/4 full!
>Obviously I change the battery then but have been perplexed at the
>difference in behavior.
>Jeff
>
>

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:37:15 +1030
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              Rod Whitby <rwhitby@ASC.SPS.MOT.COM>
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Folks,

I have added another HP-related page to my Geocities web site:

        http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/8287/

This page is dedicated to programming *on* the HP200LX (as opposed to
just programming *for* the HP200LX). On this page I will place links to
packages that can be recompiled *on* the HP200LX.

In the future, the page will also contain instructions on how to
recompile all those wonderful Japanese HP200LX programs out there.

Any author who releases source code for a program that will run on the
HP200LX will gain an honoured place on the "HP200LX Source Code Home
Page".

I'm trying to encourage authors to release their source code for
everyone to learn from.

My feeling (and I'm sure there are those that will disagree with me)
is that there isn't enough people using the HP200LX to make money out
of trying to sell your programs.

You've benefited from free software written by others, so releasing
your source code is a way of "giving something back" to all HP200LX
users (especially those in the future who want to create new programs
for the HP200LX).

It also allows someone else to "pick up the ball" when an author is no
longer able or willing to support a piece of software.

Look at what source code availability did for Linux !  Why shouldn't
we strive for similar achievements ?

So send me URLs for useful packages that contain source code, and I'll
add them to the page.  And bookmark the page as your on-line HP200LX
programming tutorial centre.

While you're there, check out ExmBatch and LXPPP ... :-)

BTW, I use HP200LX as a generic term for HP95LX, HP100LX and HP200LX
- hope that doesn't offend any HP95LX or HP100LX users.

-- Rod Whitby (rwhitby@geocities.com)
-- Web: <http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/8287/>

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:50:24 -0800
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Regarding making an autoexec.bat that branches.

Some time ago, I posted instructions on how you can make
your own reply.com program using debug.exe which comes
with the HP200LX.  The program is only 7 or 8 bytes in size.
Interestingly enough, you can actually create some
simple utilities with Debug!


Reply lets you turn any batch file into a branching program.
I find it quite useful even when working in Windows NT!

You can also find several similar programs on the SUPER site.


At 12:26 PM 1/20/98 -0800, you wrote:
>I want to write an Autoexec.bat file (is that redundant?) that branches,
>depending upon what I want to do:  (1) run Agenda or another program that
>doesn't run under the SysMgr,  (2) run SysMgr, or (3) run Windows.  I know
>that this can be done, but lacking any DOS documentation, am not clear how
>to go about it.  Can/would someone out there give me a little shove in the
>right direction?  I'd appreciate it.
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Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
Phil Seyer (415) 665-8933, ext. 333

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Date:         Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:31:04 -0600
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              Jeff MacDowell <jmacdowell@USA.NET>
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I found some "return to stock" used Motorola Cellect Pocket Modems for $120
each.  The archives from the "old" list have some rave reviews re this
modem, with the only negative being quick use of the 9volt battery.  The
modem comes with a cable to hook to a Motorola Flip cell phone, but
unfortunately I own an Elite Flip phone and Motorola has a cable for $49
plus shipping.

Finally, my question.  Before I put out this kind of cash, does anyone have
one these modems and what is your experience (especially via cellular
phone). In addition, if anyone is interested in buying one too, email me
off-line. I think more than one is available.

Thanks for the benefit of your experiences.  I am thankful for this list
and being able to get good input, but if this list didn't exist I probably
wouldn't know about all this cool stuff to buy.

Oh well.
Jeff

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     Hi!
     I just got to say this I use WP5.1 on my 200LX 4MB single speed and it
     works great. Plus if you have to use a database I think IMHO the 200LX
     is tops. WinCE can't touch the LX there.


     Helmut in Colorado


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Date:    1/28/98 8:54 PM


On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Dennis Faucher wrote:

DE> I installed Win 2.03 and Excel 2.1 on my 200LX with only the addition
DE> of SETVERM.EXE (Downloaded from www.shareware.com).

DE> I was surprised at how well it performed.  I say
DE> performED because I removed it the next day.  Although the performance
DE> is fine, the built-in applications are much better than those
DE> available for Win 2.03 (I feel a flame coming).

Dennis, for the most part i agree with you. The phonebook, apptbook,
database etc.. are all very solid performers and i wouldn't trade them
either. However, the weakest link in the built-in apps (100 & 200lx)
has widely been regarded as its word processing capability. Just look
at a psion or winCE machine and you'll see my point. <g>

Also, for users who have need for a more versatile spreadsheet program
than the 123 in the rom and carry only the 200lx, windows offers some
exciting possibilities and makes both the psion and winCE units pale
by comparison...

BTW: Thanks for your candid comments on the performance :-)

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Hi,

I'm wanting a html viewer for my hp200lx. It's not for actual
web browsing; it just seems like a convenient & standard way to view
formatted text.

Note: I'm not think of the lynx-style formatted *text*; but something
that uses CGA, so that you actually have different font sizes, italics
etc.

If nothing like this is available, I think it would be pretty easy to
write a bare-bones one, using the BGI routines of Turbo C. Gifs could
even be displayed with that cool program on SUPER! I'd probably
skip tables for the moment, and just do the really easy txt stuff.


Actually, what I'm really thinking is to use a little latex2html
converter in perl* in conjunction with this html display program, so
I can write LaTeX on my palmtop, and pre-view it, too! I know I
could do it directly, using metafont, sb etc etc, but that is more
accurate and powerful than what I need in a previewer.



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Hi,

It just occurred to me that if I zipped these programs/files until I need
them, I would save around half a meg (and out of a 4 Meg machine,
that is *significant*.)
        vim      400k   (editor)
        perl     300K
        tcc      500k   (C++ compiler)
        *.c      270k
                -----
                1470k
                -----

This is like manual double-spacing/stacking, I suppose. Any comments?
Recommendation for best zip program?

(NOTE: the zip.com on SUPER is actually a very cool file-transfer utility)

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On 1998-01-28 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to qman@earthlink.net
   >Hi group-
   >Has anyone successfully DL'd and unzipped the new version of PE (v2.
   >1)? Tried twice from the D&A site about a week ago - once with
   >WWW/LX and once with a UNIX shell acct.  Both times I get the msg
   >"Error in ZIP file - use PKZIPFIX to fix".  Try this and everything
   >is OK except for a CRC error in the doc.  Trying to read anyway
   >shows the doc turns into garbage in the middle.
   >Wrote to D&A last week, but haven't heard back...
   >Mitch now has this on SUPER, so I tried again from the shell acct,
   >but same old thing...

I also got the same error message with WINZIP.

Regards, Qman
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> >>Have you seen the various shoulder holsters available? Under a
> >>suit jacket, they sure add credo, and a certain kind of
> >>power-play as you reach under your jacket...
> >________________________________________________
>
> I work (architect) in a County Courthouse in CA - I had a baliff pull a 9mm
> hand gun on me one fine AM while I was carrying a drafting machine (tool
> from the slide rule era if anyone's old enuff to remember) to our plans
> vault.  I'd stay away from holsters. ( I wear a suit & tie too).... no, he
> didn't apologize, either.
You should take him to court for assault! ... no, wait.


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Comments: cc: Bryan.Phenix@EC.GC.CA

Windows CE is an imbedded in the devices it comes for. There is no way
to copy it unless you have access sources that the general public does
not. It is currently written to work on a specific set of RISC
processors and not an 80X86. It's also a 32bit system so It may run on
an 80386 in the future. The chances of there ever being a CE for the
HP200LX are between zero and none. You'd have to change the LX so much
that it would cease to be an LX.


On 1998-01-28 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Does anyone know of an emulator that could run WinCE on an HP
   >200LX . Some folks are having luck(?)  with Windows so I was just
   >wondering....
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Comments: To: DFrick@MAIL.SNIP.NET

I think you have to put:

device=c:\setver.exe

in the config.sys

HTH

On 1998-01-28 DFrick@MAIL.SNIP.NET said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >I have installed Win 2.03 on my 200lx (on the PCMCIA hard drive F:),
   >but I have a small problem.
   >I have SETVER win.com and win200.bin to 3.1 per the blurb that pops
   >up during unzipping the version that I got. However, after the
   >initial graphical start-up screen, garbledy-gook slides down the
   >screen and I go back to the F: prompt. Open running win.com |more,
   >I see that the first message before the garbledy-gook is Incorrect
   >DOS version.
   >I wonder if setver from DOS 6.2 is not Really working on the 200lx?
   >When I do a straight setver on f:\windows, it nicely displays all
   >version tables for the files on the directory. I've made sure that
   >none of them are higher than 5.0. The only two vital ones mentioned
   >were the two above that I changed.
   >Has anyone already been through this that can share some advice? I
   >was testing Win 2.03 on a 486dx2 w/ dos 6.2 and it seemed like it
   >may be useful on the 200lx.
   >Darren.
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> >I'm sure that this has been asked before but I am new to the list. What
> >exactly is it? I see it mentioned on the list quite often.


> It's like a pile of electronic sticky-notes. You can enter random bits of
> information and quickly search for all the tidbits having to do with a
> particular word or words.

Is this pretty similar to greping a file for key words? EG
        /music.*new/
and having each 'entry' on it's own line? Or even doing the same thing
from within vi?


Or
        grep /music/ *.* | grep /new/ ?

Having each  entry in its own file in this directory. You could make
a batch file:
C:\BIN\c.bat
        grep /$1/ c:\mydir\*.* | grep /$2/ | grep /$3/ ........

and then say:
        c music new
or
        c new music


Someone else posted this idea (Jorgen?). It's the philosophy of
assembling your apps as you need them... it's a bit hardcore hacking,
though. :)

I'm sure this is more information that was necessary. :)

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I had the same problem, ...  Doesn't suprise me you didn't hear from
them.  I had that experience with them for the past month, until
earlier today, ...  End of griping about D&A (much to everyone's
relief, I'm sure).

Good luck!

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NONE of the Word for DOS versions need Windows.  Try taking out all=
 of
your TSR programs, trimming your path statement, etc., in Autoexec.bat
and Config.sys files, and starting from a clean boot.

That was the reason for my question posted to the list re:  'menus'=
 in an
Autoexec.bat file, so you can choose how you want to boot and reboot,
depending on what you want to do at the time.

BTW, from what I understand, Win can't/doesn't use ems, BUT the Word
and Excel programs do, as does Agenda.  And, with Agenda, MS Project
makes an unbeatable project management combination, ...

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Also, from what I'v heard, and seen running Win2 and win3 with Excel
2.1, you're probably getting a more functional program than the WINce
versions, ...  And if the Word 2 gets completed at the FTP site, then
the word processing will be better also.  I've also heard that the
presentation software port (name?) isn't worth the bother.  But, this
is just what I've heard passively.

After using the Win 2 and 3 programs for a day or so, I think I'm going
to stick with Word 5.5, the runtime version of Excel 2.1, and MS
Project 4.0 (for DOS, which doesn't exist for WINce), with the usual
HP100LX stuff.  Still AMAZING (I started college with a sliderule, so
you have to put things in perspective, FWIW).


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On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, katana@clear.net.nz wrote:

ka>    >swapfile into ems on my machine and the balance is available for
ka>    >win30.
ka>
ka> The ems you speak of, whence commeth it? I have tried emm200 with NO
ka> success with any version of windows...

Sorry for not making this clear in my original post David. EMM200 is
not known to work with windows (i have no reason why) but if you have
a mem-upgraded machine, tremm (T2T's expanded memory manager)
functions just beautifully with windows on the lx...

I do not believe tremm works with non-upgraded machines tho.

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Hi,

This is just a brief note to tell you all that my display control program
(Using the routines from LXMIDI) is uploaded to Super (thanks Mitch!).

It has no bells and whistles but gets the job done. If anyone wants to
make a better version then be my guest :-). Full source is also included.

Thanks must go to HARUYA (the author of the amazing LXMIDI) for making the
routines in the first place.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:48:28 -0800
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On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Jeff Malka wrote:

> Could someone explain what advantages or disadvantages exist between type
> II cards and the CF cards (other than the need for an adapter for the CF
> cards)?
>
> I am familiar with PCMCIA cards but have never heard of the CF cards until
> this thread started.

I think they're like our regular PCMCIA flash cards, but in a smaller form
factor to accomodate newer devices (smaller PDAs and digital cameras).

I believe there's a website that deals with the CompactFlash specs, but I
don't recall the URL.

I would suppose that the newer technology might result also in improved
power management and performance (vs std PCMCIA) ...but that's just the
optimist in me <g>.

Don't know of any negatives, except now it's easier to fumble and lose
$500 in the dark.

- Longden

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Subject:      Re: Battery levels
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Jeff,

It's been a while since I've been on alkalines....any chance this is a
warranty issue with HP?

- Longden

On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Jeff Malka wrote:

> This is a problem that has bothered me ever since I moved from my old
> 100LX to my 200LX, so I thought to put it out for thoughts.

> Using my 200LX, I get a "main battery low" warning when BUDDY says the
> voltage is 2.62 and SETUP shows the battery to still be 3/4 full!

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Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm wanting a html viewer for my hp200lx. It's not for actual
> web browsing; it just seems like a convenient & standard way to view
> formatted text.
>
> Note: I'm not think of the lynx-style formatted *text*; but something
> that uses CGA, so that you actually have different font sizes, italics
> etc.
>
HV from SUPER site does just that. It's actually the browser that WWW/LX
uses.

Darren

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On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> It just occurred to me that if I zipped these programs/files until I need
> them, I would save around half a meg (and out of a 4 Meg machine,
> that is *significant*.)
>         vim      400k   (editor)
>         perl     300K
>         tcc      500k   (C++ compiler)
>         *.c      270k

>
> This is like manual double-spacing/stacking, I suppose. Any comments?

Only that there's a danger in one's tendency to use all available space.
If you have only 490K left on your system (in the near future), you then
won't be able to unpack tcc to do a compile.

That and the time and incovenience of zip/unzipping. I would suppose
Stacker is more practical for your purposes...tho I don't use it myself.

Storage cards are getting pretty cheap (maybe even for starving
students)...ever consider getting one? (even a small 2mb card).

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:17:59 -0800
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On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> I'm wanting a html viewer for my hp200lx. It's not for actual
> web browsing; it just seems like a convenient & standard way to view
> formatted text.

Look no further than SUPER. Garzotto's HV program is what you want.

> Note: I'm not think of the lynx-style formatted *text*; but something
> that uses CGA, so that you actually have different font sizes, italics
> etc.

Yes Yes...all that and more...just look and see and try (while you still
have the disk space <g>).

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:25:33 -0800
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On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Mike wrote:

> aarg!!, somehow I've totally messed up my 15 meg flash disk by
> undeleting some files and renaming them.  Now I've got a bunch of
> directories within directories with garbage characters for names that I
> can't delete because the filer says it can't find them and it goes on
> from there...
>
> I just want to start from scratch.  It's an IBM thinkpad file card, on
> the back it says SUNDISK.  I'm hazy on MS-Dos and and need to know the
> specific command for reformatting the flash card, or do I need a special
> utility.  Any help would be great before I start messing around and get
> myself in deeper

Mike,

If you have deltree.exe from DOS 6.x, you may be able to go to the root
(main) directory and remove all subdirectories.

Alternatively (and maybe easier), just use the DOS FORMAT command, or use
( Filer/Options/Format Card ).

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 09:31:24 -0600
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I also have an EXP Thinfax memory/modem card (only 4meg :/)  if you have
any better luck getting EXP to release W95 drivers for the memory part,
_please_ go public!  So far, the only way I have found to access the
memory under W95 is to create a config.sys and install the driver before
95 runs.  Then when 95 is running I ignore the complaining about "one or
more devices are using some puny old method, and you should be using our
much greater, more powerful, all encompassing grand, exalted stuff"
warnings.

Phil

>----------
>From:  KCOMichSMTP:KCOMich@AOL.COM
>Sent:  Wednesday, January 28, 1998 9:28 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: EXP ThinFax with 8MB RAM
>
>I use the EXP ThinFax modem on my Gateway 2000 Colorbook (right now in fact)
>with very few problems.  Be sure to set up the Cirrus drivers properly (you
>can find this information from your computer company's web site, etc.) and
>set
>your communications program to "generic modem"  I have not figured out how to
>access the memory on the card, however.  The ThinFax manual is actually
>pretty
>helpful overall in this regard.
>
>Good luck
>Nick
>

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At 12:44 AM 1/29/98 +0800, you wrote:
>Hi,

  Hi.  :)

>As I have said many times- I am not a programmer since I don't know much of
>it. However, with some studies of Japanese EXM programs and some major help
>from for example Toshiki, I have now created an exm program which I call HP
>Alarm Clock. The basics is there but since I have to travel for a week or
>so, I will not be able do a real good check for bugs. I would like to
>release the program very soon since I have worked on it for over a month,
>so I would highly appreciate some help. If you have a HP 200LX normal
>speed/double speed or a HP 100LX, I would like to hear from you. If you
>reply to this message, please let me know which kind of palmtop you have.

  I have both a 100LX and a 200LX, both normal speed.  I use the 200 for my
primary machine most of the time.  I'm also a heavy sleeper and could
-really- use soemthing like your program to get me going in the morning...
<grin>

  Good luck,
          ... John L. Stanley
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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 10:10:25 -0600
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Have you thought of using PKLITE on the .EXE files?  I use PKLITE on
what ever it will work on and usually see a reduction of program size of
about half.  Not all .EXE files will submit to compression, but...

Phil

>

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What does CHKDSK with a /F switch do to this mess?

Phil

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>Sent:  Thursday, January 29, 1998 8:02 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       need to reformat flash disk
>
>aarg!!, somehow I've totally messed up my 15 meg flash disk by
>undeleting some files and renaming them.  Now I've got a bunch of
>directories within directories with garbage characters for names that I
>can't delete because the filer says it can't find them and it goes on
>from there...
>

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Comments: To: Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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"Chkdsk /F" may help, or may do nothing or it may glom a lot of messes
into one big one...depends on the nature of the problem. Mostly it takes
cross-linked and orphaned file fragments and clumps them together into
legitimate fragments...which may or may not help you. Ie, it may restore
the integrity of your file tables at the expense of your data.

Worth a try if you're about to reformat anyway tho.

- Longden

On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Phil Drummond wrote:

> What does CHKDSK with a /F switch do to this mess?
>
> Phil

> >From:  MikeSMTP:cmevans@FLASH.NET
> >Subject:       need to reformat flash disk
> >
> >aarg!!, somehow I've totally messed up my 15 meg flash disk by
> >undeleting some files and renaming them.  Now I've got a bunch of
> >directories within directories with garbage characters for names that I
> >can't delete because the filer says it can't find them and it goes on
> >from there...

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This is a FYI for only a select few, I know...but it's a problem that's
been bedeviling me for several months and may be of interest.

I use the ApptBook alarm to trigger a macro on a nightly basis to close
all applications prior to starting a backup ({More}{Menu}{Enter}L{More}).

Periodically, I wokeup to find the LX locked up on the AppMgr display and
the backup had not been performed (tho apps were closed).

I finally isolated the problem. Long ago, I modified my AppMgr screen (per
the FAQ)  and moved the Filer icon to the first position and did the trick
to make it closeable (like CloseFiler).

The lockup occurs when Filer has never been opened (since an AppMgr
startup) and hence is not closeable.

The workaround has been to add a {Filer}{Filer} to the start of my macro
to ensure that Filer is in a closeable state.

The quirky thing is that if I run this macro manually (ie, by pressing
Fn-F7), it never locks.

- Longden

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I notice that the blue keys and the FN button actually work in DOS - they
have scan codes and all that. Is there a TSR out there that lets you remap
these keys when is DOS mode? If not, i think i'm going to write one. I'm
used to pressing MENU to get to the menu, and would like to map F1 onto the
MENU button, which in Dexter brings up the menu.

Also, as long as we're talking programming, i have some questions:

Could someone give me C code to do CGA graphic stuff? I know how the screen
memory works in textmode (0xB800) and VGA (0xA000), but how do i do
putpixel?

And how do i access the IR port? Is there a special interrupt, or do i just
treat it like any other COM port?

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:47:18 -0500
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FYI:

        The PalEdit .ZIP archive on D&A'S software site has been fixed.
The corrected file size is 72401.

Cheers,



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>
> I notice that the blue keys and the FN button actually work in DOS - they
> have scan codes and all that. Is there a TSR out there that lets you remap
> these keys when is DOS mode?

Actually, there is one ``in there''. D drive, to be exact.

Type key200 for a help screen.

See d:\bin\key200.txt for a tutorial.

It's pretty good.



> If not, i think i'm going to write one. I'm
> used to pressing MENU to get to the menu, and would like to map F1 onto the
> MENU button, which in Dexter brings up the menu.
Can do.


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> > I'm wanting a html viewer for my hp200lx.
> > that uses CGA, so that you actually have different font sizes, italics

> HV from SUPER site does just that. It's actually the browser that WWW/LX
> uses.

Thanks to the several people who recommended this. It is an excellent
product! Thanks, D&A Software Inc! (DNA?)


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Subject:      Re: PE2.1 zip error??

> On Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:01:48, Al wrote:
> I just tried both sites. Both sites have a file size of 64,512 but the
> D&A site claims the file is 73K. I think that is the problem.
>
> Cheers,

FYI: I just successfully downloaded and unziped PalEdit 2.1 from the SUPER
Site. Get it from the Main SUPER page and not the TOP 20!

Good luck,

Note: If you still have trouble D/L let me know and I'll send you a copy.
send all replies to: qman@earthlink.net

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Or use Maxfind, eg:
      mf  -2a  new stuff   *.*
This looks for the words "new" and "stuff" within a two line span
at a rate of 60K per second on the LX.

Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > It's like a pile of electronic sticky-notes. You can enter random bits of
> > information and quickly search for all the tidbits having to do with a
> > particular word or words.
>
> Is this pretty similar to greping a file for key words? EG
>         /music.*new/
> and having each 'entry' on it's own line? Or even doing the same thing
> from within vi?
>
> Or
>         grep /music/ *.* | grep /new/ ?

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You could use Diet on just those pgms/files at the cost of about 40K
of main mamory. If it is just executable files you want to "compress"
use Pklite or Lzexe with no memory cost, just speed.
But try just zipping those files first, they may already be "compressed".

Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It just occurred to me that if I zipped these programs/files until I need
> them, I would save around half a meg (and out of a 4 Meg machine,
> that is *significant*.)
>         vim      400k   (editor)
>         perl     300K
>         tcc      500k   (C++ compiler)
>         *.c      270k
>                 -----
>                 1470k
>                 -----
>
> This is like manual double-spacing/stacking, I suppose. Any comments?
> Recommendation for best zip program?
>
> (NOTE: the zip.com on SUPER is actually a very cool file-transfer utility)
>
> --
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>  The more steeped in the art of programming, the more valued the direct hack
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Before you reformat, check your config.sys and autoexec.bat
to see if it is using any files from A:. Save them - I didn't (once).

Mike wrote:

> aarg!!, somehow I've totally messed up my 15 meg flash disk by
> undeleting some files and renaming them.  Now I've got a bunch of
> directories within directories with garbage characters for names that I
> can't delete because the filer says it can't find them and it goes on
> from there...
>
> I just want to start from scratch.  It's an IBM thinkpad file card, on
> the back it says SUNDISK.  I'm hazy on MS-Dos and and need to know the
> specific command for reformatting the flash card, or do I need a special
> utility.  Any help would be great before I start messing around and get
> myself in deeper
>
> mike
>
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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:19:09 EST
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              "Daniel Z. Sands" <dsands@BIDMC.HARVARD.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: Motorola Cellect Pocket Modems
Comments: To: Jeff MacDowell <jmacdowell@USA.NET>

Text of message from jmacdowell@USA.NET, 28 Jan 1998, 11:31 PM
> I found some "return to stock" used Motorola Cellect Pocket Modems for
> $120 each.  The archives from the "old" list have some rave reviews re
> this modem, with the only negative being quick use of the 9volt battery.
> The modem comes with a cable to hook to a Motorola Flip cell phone, but
> unfortunately I own an Elite Flip phone and Motorola has a cable for $49
> plus shipping.
>
> Finally, my question.  Before I put out this kind of cash, does anyone
> have one these modems and what is your experience (especially via
> cellular phone). In addition, if anyone is interested in buying one too,
> email me off-line. I think more than one is available.
>

I have one and paid much more for it.  It works great!

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:02:52 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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I could put all I know about programming in a Coke bottle and still have
room for plenty of Coke, but as I understand it, the IR port can be
"mapped" to the UART or handled directly.

As I am just beginning to learn C (got a book and Visual C++) the
methods for doing this are like Druid chants to me, so all I can
recommend is that you procure the development pack for the HP and take a
couple of no-doze.

Phil

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>And how do i access the IR port? Is there a special interrupt, or do i just
>treat it like any other COM port?
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Hi all-

Went to D&A's site just before checking my mail.  Found the corrected
PE zip file, and it DL'd and unzipped fine.  Checked SUPER, and Mitch
also has the good file now.  I'm writing this on the new v2.1 - but
haven't had a chance to try out the new encryption or database
functions yet. Sound interesting in the doc.

The doc also mentions Post/LX 2 - so maybe it's almost ready   8-)

-PR
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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:43:22 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Sorry, I'm "webless", I'll have to wait and hear more before my reply to
your post is worth anything. :)

Phil

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:23:59 -1
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Subject:      nettamer 'next message key'

A few weeks ago someone asked why the 'n' key in nettamer didn't get you to
the next message anymore. (don't know who, don't know when)
As I found out (accidently), ifyou press the 'd' key when reading a message,
you will go to the next message and mark the current one as erase.

If you press the 'enter' key, you go to the next message and mark the
current one read.

HTH
Bas
Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:32:14 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Alarm macro locks system
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> I finally isolated the problem. Long ago, I modified my AppMgr screen
(per the FAQ)  and moved the Filer icon to the first position and did the
trick to make it closeable (like CloseFiler).

What "trick" are you referring to? Where can I find the FAQ that you
mentioned? I have closefiler installed already, but if there is a way to
avoid eating up that memory, I'd love to know.

Alex Arancio
Trout, Segall & Doyle LLC
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On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:23:59 -1,
        Bas Pruijn <126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL> wrote:

> A few weeks ago someone asked why the 'n' key in nettamer
> didn't get you to the next message anymore...

Thanks Bas!

It was me, and it was some time ago. Kudos to you on your memory. I=
 use
NetTamer only as a back up when POST/LX fails me, but when you are
trying to wade through error messages that include the entire text of
the bounced message (real pain for the DIGESTS) it is alot easier than
going back to the list and using the arrow.

Thanks for the tip.




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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:46:17 -0500
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There are 2 questions that I have repeatedly asked and consistently got=
 no
reponse
to, whatsoever. I shall make one more attempt before giving up.

1) HP200LX <=3D> Lotus Notes conduit
There is a very nice program called PYLON for the Palm Pilot Pro, to li=
nk it to
Lotus Notes mail and databases. The LX is a lot more powerful than the =
Pilot,
yet
no such program exists for it. The Pylon author is not interested in th=
e LX, but
maybe some of our talented LX programmers could look into this. I am su=
re it
would
generate income as a Shareware program. Are there any of our JAPANESE s=
uper
programmers
reading this list? (Contact me direct if you wish!)

2) 1k clusters on ATA Flash Cards
The 1k cluster formatter off SUPER did not work on my 16MB flash card, =
and
Partition
Magic refuses to do anything to ATA cards on my laptop, which is a pity=
, as it
does
just this. Is there any other (successful) way of defining the cluster =
size
when
formatting ATA? I could run such a program in a laptop (WIN95).

Thanks,
Paul Szilard
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Greetings:

        I am trying to execute an EXKey macro in a MaxDOS shell, but=
 am
not having any success. Specifically, I wrote a macro to reply to a
message in POST/LX's reader program. The macro runs fine in DOS, but=
 I
can't get it to run in a MaxDOS shell. According to the documents, I
should have READERw in the exkey.ini, but that doesn't work for me.=


I also tried running reckey, which labels the commands

READER (DOS Window). I tried various combinations of that label w/=
 &
w/o "w" in exkey.ini, but No-Go!

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

TIA & Cheers,
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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:14:43 -0600
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On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> > I'm wanting a html viewer for my hp200lx. It's not for actual
> > web browsing; it just seems like a convenient & standard way to view
> > formatted text.
>
> Look no further than SUPER. Garzotto's HV program is what you want.
>


The HV program looks very nice.  What I would like to find, however,
is a file viewer for ascii files that has a search function.  I have
in mind using it to study the text of a recovery book I read a lot.
Pal Edit would work okay, but I would really like to have the text
be immune from inadvertent changes.  I tried making the text file
read only, but that didn't seem to trouble PE a bit.  The view
function in Filer is okay, but it's lacking a search function.

I searched SUPER, but didn't come up with anything.  I also tried
to look at Project Gutenburg, but the site is not available.  Before
I spend a lot of time poking around simtel or the like, I thought
I would see if anyone on list had any suggestions.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:17:50 +0000
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              David Cripps <d-cripps@DIRCON.CO.UK>
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Subject:      Network PCMCIA cards - Rec Silicom
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I'm looking for a network card that will work in my 200LX and a notebook
that also has a Type II slot.  Our network at work uses 10BaseT cabling,
but I don't know what else I need to know to buy the right card.  Can
anyone tell me what I need to know about the network to talk to vendors?

David,

I've tried the Xircom, 3Com and Silicom nework cards in my HP200 and the
ONLY one which works is the Silicom.

The others report they are working, diagnostics work, even report the MAC
address of the card etc. But do not Transmit! This is due to the limited
current available in the HP's PCMCIA slot (I think about 100mA).

The Silicom works fine, I've loaded up a TCP/IP stack from PC/TCP, for
Telnet, Ping, FTP, BootP, etc, also had IPX running (using NetX) login
into a Novell 3.12 server, also the shareware Ethload and the commercial
LanWatch products monitoring, capturing and decoding Ethernet packets.
(Not bad for a Palm Top!!!).

Had a few problems with the RJ45 connector (the cable from the PCMCIA card
to the RJ45 is very fine and doesn't crimp well, out of three cards, I had
two failures!)

If you want to connect to a local 10BaseT Ethernet Network, the only product
that I've found to work is the Silicom.

(and no I've nothing to do with Silicom, only a sad geek with an interest
in Gadgets - and thats from my wife!).

Dave Cripps

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:29:10 -0800
Reply-To:     David Sargeant <davidsa@accessnv.com>
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Subject:      Re: Network PCMCIA cards - Rec Silicom
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Actually, the Accton cards will work too, and they'll work with a
double-speed 200LX, which the Silicom won't.

--
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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:53:27 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Try vertical reader - it comes with a search program.

At 05:14 PM 1/29/98 -0600, you wrote:
>On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>>
>> > I'm wanting a html viewer for my hp200lx. It's not for actual
>> > web browsing; it just seems like a convenient & standard way to view
>> > formatted text.
>>
>> Look no further than SUPER. Garzotto's HV program is what you want.
>>
>
>
>The HV program looks very nice.  What I would like to find, however,
>is a file viewer for ascii files that has a search function.  I have
>in mind using it to study the text of a recovery book I read a lot.
>Pal Edit would work okay, but I would really like to have the text
>be immune from inadvertent changes.  I tried making the text file
>read only, but that didn't seem to trouble PE a bit.  The view
>function in Filer is okay, but it's lacking a search function.
>
>I searched SUPER, but didn't come up with anything.  I also tried
>to look at Project Gutenburg, but the site is not available.  Before
>I spend a lot of time poking around simtel or the like, I thought
>I would see if anyone on list had any suggestions.
>
>Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:22:58 -0500
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David,

Why do you like 5.0 more than 5.5?

Gavin

At 10:35 PM 29/1/98 -0100, you wrote:
>Try ftp.scott.net/pub/users/jeffj/ for Word 5.0 (My favorite) and 5.5
>for dos.
>David Lawrence
>katana@clear.net.nz

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:45:36 +0000
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On 1998-01-29 store4u@troutsegall.com said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >> I finally isolated the problem. Long ago, I modified my AppMgr
   >> screen (per the FAQ)  and moved the Filer icon to the first
   >> position and did the trick to make it closeable (like CloseFiler).

   >What "trick" are you referring to? Where can I find the FAQ that you
   >mentioned? I have closefiler installed already, but if there is a
   >way to avoid eating up that memory, I'd love to know.

I've never used CloseFiler myself...I wasn't aware that it used up memory.

The FAQ can be found at the website mentioned on our list's signature line.

I hope noone objects to me quoting it here on that subject.

- Longden

Q: What's the "disable filer" trick?
A: As shipped by HP, the application manager always keeps the filer in
memory, consuming approx 58K of RAM.  This is so that, if you run out
of disk space while using an application, you can enter filer, delete
some files, and save your work.  The "disable filer" trick allows you
to completely terminate the filer, and recover that 58K of RAM.  This
is undocumented, unsupported, and nobody at HP has recommended it,
although several users have reported success with it.  Nevertheless,
please back up your disk before trying this.  To disable the filer, do
the following:

1) Activate the application manager (press {More}).
2) Move the filer to the first position, using F7.
3) Close the application manager.
4) Start DOS (cntl-123), and type the following:
   debug c:\_dat\appmgr.dat
   e 10a 01
   w
   q
5) Start the application manager and move the filer back to its
original position, if desired.

Now, you can close the filer by first opening it, highlighting it in
the application manager and pressing F6, or by menu/application/close
all.  The filer's quit command will behave as before, just putting
the filer to sleep, not recovering the RAM.  If the filer is asleep,
the application manager CANNOT close it.  The filer must be open
(awake) for the application manager to close it.  If the filer has
been completely terminated (not just put to sleep), it will take two
presses of the filer key to open it up again.

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:45:46 +0000
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On 1998-01-29 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >The HV program looks very nice.  What I would like to find, however,
   >is a file viewer for ascii files that has a search function.  I have
   >in mind using it to study the text of a recovery book I read a lot.
   >Pal Edit would work okay, but I would really like to have the text
   >be immune from inadvertent changes.  I tried making the text file
   >read only, but that didn't seem to trouble PE a bit.  The view
   >function in Filer is okay, but it's lacking a search function.
   >I searched SUPER, but didn't come up with anything.  I also tried
   >to look at Project Gutenburg, but the site is not available.  Before
   >I spend a lot of time poking around simtel or the like, I thought
   >I would see if anyone on list had any suggestions.

Look again in SUPER. The Vertical Reader program has got to be one of the best
programs for that task. Another simple alternative is Vernon Buerg's List
program...found at most shareware sites. Even the oldest (and smallest)
versions supported text searches.

- Longden

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Greetings, all. I have windows 2.03 working fine on the 200lx. I think
that I'm going to try 3.0 now.

I need to know some applications that work in 3.0 in real mode ( I think
that's which way it gets installed). Mostly looking for a Web browser
and other internet stuff, but I'd like Desktop publishing and other
stuff as well.

Darren

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:23:42 +1100
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I've written a little perl script that converts latex to html,
so I can use the html viewer (HV from SUPER) to view LaTeX on the palmtop.

This latex2html is very fast; but it only handles the *text* features
of LaTeX so far; not tables (nor images!). It's part of my rule of not
spending more than an hour on these little hobbies...
Specifically, it so far handles:
        chapter
        section
        subsection
        subsubsection
        label
        newpage
        cite
        emph
        begin{quote}
        begin{description}
        footnote


If anyone is interested in this approach (I mean, you can write and view
LaTeX on the palmtop, without actually going the whole hog of installing
TeX, metafont, etc), I can make the perl script avail.

A sed translation is also possible. (sed is 20k; perl is 300k!).


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I installed Stacker 4.0 following the instructions given at the
web-site of Stac (palmtop specific instructions).
It didn't work at all. Stacker.com is the driver but it wasn't
even included in autoexec or config...

Could anyone point me to the direction where to find an excact
description of the installation on a palmtop ? It was no problem on
the desktop.

TIA

Christof

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     Hi!
     I got windos 3.0 working in my 200LX singel speed 4MB RAM. It is OK
     but too slow too fat over 4.5 MB program . don't know about aps for
     it. Will delete it.

     Helmut in Colorado


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Date:    1/29/98 9:57 PM


Greetings, all. I have windows 2.03 working fine on the 200lx. I think
that I'm going to try 3.0 now.

I need to know some applications that work in 3.0 in real mode ( I think
that's which way it gets installed). Mostly looking for a Web browser
and other internet stuff, but I'd like Desktop publishing and other
stuff as well.

Darren

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Hello, I was wondering if anybody had information on how to write
directly to video memory for the HP200lx 640x200 monochrome graphics
mode?  Is it a single flat segment, or some type of more complicated
page flipping scheme? The PAL libraries just use BIOS int5h, but I
wish to get a little extra speed by directly writing to video memory
if it's not too hard... anybody have any info?

Thanks,
Jay

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:45:26 -0500
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              "Jack W. Hsu" <jwhsu@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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Hi. I'm new to the HP world and I want to get everyone's opinion on this
topic before I make a purchase decision.

I own an HP200LX which has been upgraded to 8 megs and has been clock
doubled. I am interested in purchasing a modem, primarily to read e-mail and
the occasional web page. I would like to have the ability to connect the
modem to a cellular phone as well as a land line. The questions I have are
as follows:

1)  Is it worth purchacing a modem faster than 28.8 (in other words, can a
doublespeed 200lx keep up with the dataflow of a fast modem)?

2)  At identical baud rates, is there any noticeable speed difference
between using a PC card modem vs a pocket modem (this also includes the
PowerTek PocketLink adapter)?

3) Where can one purchase pocket modems? (assuming there is no significant
difference in transfer rates between PC and external modems)?

Any recommendations for either PC card modems or pocket modems is
appreciated.

Thanks

Jack W. Hsu, MD

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:45:36 -0800
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Any problems with the Silicom in a notebook?  How much do they cost, and
any recommended vendors?

David

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:49:30 -0600
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              Jeff MacDowell <jmacdowell@USA.NET>
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At 10:45 PM 1/29/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi. I'm new to the HP world and I want to get everyone's opinion on this
>topic before I make a purchase decision.
>
>I own an HP200LX which has been upgraded to 8 megs and has been clock
>doubled. I am interested in purchasing a modem, primarily to read e-mail and
>the occasional web page. I would like to have the ability to connect the
>modem to a cellular phone as well as a land line. The questions I have are
>as follows:
>
>1)  Is it worth purchacing a modem faster than 28.8 (in other words, can a
>doublespeed 200lx keep up with the dataflow of a fast modem)?

No. It is my understanding that 200LX can't transmit faster and most
33.6/56K PCMCIA modems drain too much power.  One exception is the Simple
Technology 33.6 Communicator with SimpleJack (like Megahertz XJACK, but
better).  It draws lower power and is also cellular compatible.  I use it
with a Motorola Elite flip phone, but cables are available for several
other modems.  Check out David Sargeant's web site
(http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp) for an excellent and more technical
review of this modem.  The only draw back is you don't have access to a
flash memory card with a PCMCIA modem, but you have 8Meg on board, so maybe
that doesn't matter (if it does matter, see pocket discussion below).

>2)  At identical baud rates, is there any noticeable speed difference
>between using a PC card modem vs a pocket modem (this also includes the
>PowerTek PocketLink adapter)?

I haven't seen any pocket modems faster than 14.4/19.2K, but I've never
heard of the PocketLink.

>3) Where can one purchase pocket modems? (assuming there is no significant
>difference in transfer rates between PC and external modems)?

I posted a message yesterday re having found some Motorola Cellect 14.4
pocket modems that are also cellular compatible.  I don't know if they work
with non-Motorola phones, but the cellular standard they function on is
referred to as MC2.  The modems I found are "factory reconditioned" from a
private party.  Motorola discontinued this product about 18 mos. ago.  The
reason I am interested in a pocket modem is the flash memory problem for
email and web browsing, but cellular is important to me.  My research in
the List's archives indicate this is one of, if not the best, pocket modem
available.  I also asked and received confirmation that the asking price of
$120 was very reasonable.  I guess others paid significantly more in the
past.  If you want me to pick one up for you, email me direct offline.  I
am going to get them sometime this weekend and I think he has two or three
avaible.  See http://www.palmtop.net/hp-archive/9609/0075.html in the
archives for some personal opinions on several pocket modems

>Any recommendations for either PC card modems or pocket modems is
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>Jack W. Hsu, MD

Always glad to help a physician.

Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:44:10 -0100
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Subject:      Re: zip program? Xine!
Comments: cc: bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU

   >Hi,
   >It just occurred to me that if I zipped these programs/files until
   >I need them, I would save around half a meg (and out of a 4 Meg
   >machine, that is *significant*.)
   >vim      400k   (editor)

I'm not gonna dive into any arguments over stacker and other
products, but check out xine, it is built into rom but is a
hidden file on the D: drive. Not the best compression in the
world, or the fastest, but it is there burned into rom waiting to
be experimented with.

David Lawrence
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>    >I need them, I would save around half a meg (and out of a 4 Meg
>
> check out xine, it is built into rom but is a hidden file on the D: drive.
Thanks for the tip! I thought I'd sussed out d:\bin by now; but obviously
not.

Performance for anyone interested:
        on a text file, I'm getting better than 50% compression (I haven't
        enough space to expt with my big executables. :(

Hmmmm... I also notice a
        dispcrtl  +c|-c +k|-k
short for display controller? It doesn't seem to do anything... I don't
have a manual here right now... if anyone remembers.


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Comments: cc: pszilard@AU1.IBM.COM

On 1998-01-29 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
<Snip>
   >programmers
   >reading this list? (Contact me direct if you wish!)
   >2) 1k clusters on ATA Flash Cards
   >The 1k cluster formatter off SUPER did not work on my 16MB flash

Use stacker to stack the card, then delete the stackvol, you should
have either 512 or 1024 byte clusters.

HTH

David Lawrence
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On 1998-01-29 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:
   >> On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:
   >> > I'm wanting a html viewer for my hp200lx. It's not for actual
   >> > web browsing; it just seems like a convenient & standard way to
   >>view  > formatted text.
   >> Look no further than SUPER. Garzotto's HV program is what you
   >want. >
   >The HV program looks very nice.  What I would like to find, however,
   >is a file viewer for ascii files that has a search function.  I have
   >in mind using it to study the text of a recovery book I read a lot.
   >Pal Edit would work okay, but I would really like to have the text
   >be immune from inadvertent changes.  I tried making the text file
   >read only, but that didn't seem to trouble PE a bit.  The view
   >function in Filer is okay, but it's lacking a search function.
   >I searched SUPER, but didn't come up with anything.  I also tried
   >to look at Project Gutenburg, but the site is not available.  Before
   >I spend a lot of time poking around simtel or the like, I thought
   >I would see if anyone on list had any suggestions.
   >Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

Have you read my post(s) little "text editors" Dexter has a super-fast
search and will load files of any size, XTree Gold will show you a
view of text files and has a super-fast search function with history
(editable) and many other uses/functions too many to mention again...

HTH

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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On 1998-01-29 gavin@inforamp.net said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >David,
   >Why do you like 5.0 more than 5.5?
   >Gavin
   >At 10:35 PM 29/1/98 -0100, you wrote:
   >>Try ftp.scott.net/pub/users/jeffj/ for Word 5.0 (My favorite) and
   >>5.5 for dos.

'cos it is well coded to run on the LX, it looks like 123 with it's
text menus and 5.5 with it's graphical interface looks like clunky old
Works, eugh! Besides, 5.0 will do anything I have a mind to, including
multiple columns, graphics, print-preview, multiple documents,
spreadsheet compatibility and clipboard compatible with Windows...


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:39:49 -1
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On 1998-01-29 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >Actually, what I'm really thinking is to use a little latex2html
   >converter in perl* in conjunction with this html display program,
   >so I can write LaTeX on my palmtop, and pre-view it, too! I know I
   >could do it directly, using metafont, sb etc etc, but that is more
   >accurate and powerful than what I need in a previewer.
Are you, or is anyone else using latex (or some other tex) on the 200lx. If
so do you have some kind of a manual with it. I know tex is very powerfull,
but I don't know how it works exactly. Is there also a previewer with it?

Bas
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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:23:11 -0500
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Subject:      Re: PE2.1 zip error??

Hi Guys & Gals

PalEdit 2.1 is great! I like the new added feature, DB, and PIM both come in
handy while using POST/LX.

Good job Andreas and keep up the good work.

BTW: Looking forward to POST/LX 2.0. (:-D

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:23:13 -0600
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On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

>
> Hmmmm... I also notice a
>         dispcrtl  +c|-c +k|-k
> short for display controller? It doesn't seem to do anything... I don't
> have a manual here right now... if anyone remembers.
>

From the manual:

   Enables or disables the MENU+arrow key movement and/or the
   automatic cursor tracking while in the MS-DOS command processor.


Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:32:57 -0600
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On Fri, 30 Jan 1998 katana@clear.net.nz wrote:

> On 1998-01-29 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz

>    >The HV program looks very nice.  What I would like to find, however,
>    >is a file viewer for ascii files that has a search function.  I have
>    >in mind using it to study the text of a recovery book I read a lot.
>    >Pal Edit would work okay, but I would really like to have the text
>    >be immune from inadvertent changes.
>
> Have you read my post(s) little "text editors" Dexter has a super-fast
> search and will load files of any size, XTree Gold will show you a
> view of text files and has a super-fast search function with history
> (editable) and many other uses/functions too many to mention again...
>

Actually, I have read your posts.  I'd prefer a viewer to an editor
for the reason stated above.  As it turns out, I have a licensed copy
of X-Tree Gold.  I hadn't considered it because I'm satisfied with
the built-in file management and having duplication of functionality
seems less than elegant.  If I don't find vertical reader or list to
be to my liking, I'll consider X-Tree.  Thanks for the suggestions.

To the list: I offer my humble apology.  Another response pointed out
the reference to VR in the FAQ. I *will* be reading the FAQ this
weekend.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Christof wrote:
>
> I installed Stacker 4.0 following the instructions given at the
> web-site of Stac (palmtop specific instructions).
> It didn't work at all. Stacker.com is the driver but it wasn't
> even included in autoexec or config...
>
> Could anyone point me to the direction where to find an excact
> description of the installation on a palmtop ? It was no problem on
> the desktop.
>
> TIA
>
> Christof

Christof, Just do these couple of things... this would be what to do if
you were going to stac a 10 meg flash card that is the a: drive --

1. copy stacpalm.exe & stacker.exe onto the c:\ drive of the 200lx.

2. type stacpalm.exe a: /S=10.0 /C=1

"a:" is the drive to stac // S is the size in Meg to stac // C is the
cluster size.

Stacpalm will make a hidden file called stacvol or something like that
(not important what it says) - the flash card will show some really
small amount of free space on it, which is space remaining after
creation of the stacvol hidden file.

3. Then add to autoexec as the last line:

stacker a:

That's what I did and it works.
I usually leave a little space on the flash card to actually put
stacker.exe on the card and then make the autoexec line say a:\stacker
a:
this saves space on my c: drive.

Also, if your stacker is stacker.com - just rename it stacker.exe

Happy stac'ing

Darren

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:15:44 -0500
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I'll have to echo Paul's need for a Lotus Notes program for the LX.  This
would make the HPLX a powerful tool for me instead of just an indespensible
one!  Any takers ready to tackle Lotus Notes for the HPLX????
Jim Johnson
Carmel, Indiana
e-mail:  jjohnson@tmcc.com





pszilard@AU1.IBM.COM on 01/29/98 05:46:17 PM

Please respond to HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu; Please respond to
      pszilard@AU1.IBM.COM

To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
cc:
Subject:  PYLON/LX & 1k clusters




There are 2 questions that I have repeatedly asked and consistently got no
reponse
to, whatsoever. I shall make one more attempt before giving up.
1) HP200LX <=> Lotus Notes conduit
There is a very nice program called PYLON for the Palm Pilot Pro, to link
it to
Lotus Notes mail and databases. The LX is a lot more powerful than the
Pilot,
yet
no such program exists for it. The Pylon author is not interested in the
LX, but
maybe some of our talented LX programmers could look into this. I am sure
it
would
generate income as a Shareware program. Are there any of our JAPANESE super
programmers
reading this list? (Contact me direct if you wish!)
2) 1k clusters on ATA Flash Cards
The 1k cluster formatter off SUPER did not work on my 16MB flash card, and
Partition
Magic refuses to do anything to ATA cards on my laptop, which is a pity, as
it
does
just this. Is there any other (successful) way of defining the cluster size
when
formatting ATA? I could run such a program in a laptop (WIN95).
Thanks,
Paul Szilard
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I just read that Compuserve email is now POP3 compatible.

I'm not an expert so I don't know what that really means, but from
lurking around here a while I remember some discussion about how this
would make it easier to use CompuServe (without buying ACCIS - sorry:-(

Can anyone clarify?
TIA
jez
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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:34:47 -0500
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Does anyone know of a .com or .exe program that will invert the screen
(like pressing ON-/ ) and then exit? =20

Thanks.

----=20

http://comports.com/hplx=A0=A0 <--old stuff is new...

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:52:15 -0800
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http://www.marcan-dist.com/

for 4MB memory upgrade kits, flash and modem cards, ...

Jez
--
...All my own ever-so-humble opinions...
(and no connection to Marcan - but long may they live and thrive
supporting our favorite palmtop!)

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There is something incredible called LXSTAT.COM (it's on S.U.P.E.R. I
think) as well as doing what you want, it also does all most everything
else you might imagine.  The actual command to invert the screen is;

  LXSTAT /

Phil

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>
>Does anyone know of a .com or .exe program that will invert the screen
>(like pressing ON-/ ) and then exit?
>
>Thanks.
>
>----
>
>http://comports.com/hplx   <--old stuff is new...
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... to launch a program (like CHKDSK.COM) from within a database
session?

If I had a list of "utilities" in a database, could I launch a "utility"
from the database application?  I know about using filer, and would
prefer not to use a macro.

Phil

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:28:33 GMT
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For sale, all of my HP accessories.

Hardware
4MB Thinfax 1414 LXM
Ace 10MB DoubleFlash Plus

Software
POST/LX and WWW/LX
Intellisync for HP200LX
Fastnotes
FastComm
Checkview
Accis 3.1A
200LX Connectivity software plus cable and adaptors
HP Palmtop Paper CD Infobase 1996

Other
HP Palmtop Paper from 1st issue to December 1997
including Subscriber Powerdisks and Best Tips disks
2 sets of rechargeable NIMH's

Everything in boxes and with manuals

I'm looking for 220 UK pounds to pay for the Pilot I've just bought,
but any reasonable offer considered.

Please reply directly by email

--
Peter Thomson. Wrexham, UK
pthomson@netcomuk.co.uk

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:41:23 +0100
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              Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT>
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Where can i find maxcpu?

tnx
Raffaele Gaioni

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:14:35 -0600
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>----------
>From:  Paul SzilardSMTP:pszilard@au1.ibm.com
>Sent:  Thursday, January 29, 1998 4:46 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       PYLON/LX & 1k clusters
>
><snip>
>1) HP200LX <=> Lotus Notes conduit
>There is a very nice program called PYLON for the Palm Pilot Pro, to link it
>to
>Lotus Notes mail and databases. The LX is a lot more powerful than the Pilot,
>yet no such program exists for it. The Pylon author is not interested in the
>LX,
>but maybe some of our talented LX programmers could look into this. I am
>sure it would generate income as a Shareware program. Are there any of our
>JAPANESE super programmers reading this list?
>(Contact me direct if you wish!)

This is a guess more than an answer... I think that with the relative
difficulty of supporting cc:Mail (talking from the viewpoint of a
private individual, not a company), the connectivity to Lotus mail
products has kinda been tossed to the side (in the HP palmtop arena).
There are a few good points of support, like palmtop.com and the like,
but for the most part, cc:Mail is kinda lost on the "public".

>2) 1k clusters on ATA Flash Cards
>The 1k cluster formatter off SUPER did not work on my 16MB flash card, and
>Partition Magic refuses to do anything to ATA cards on my laptop, which is a
>pity, as it does just this. Is there any other (successful) way of defining
>the
>cluster size when formatting ATA? I could run such a program in a laptop
>(WIN95).

Can't help you here either. :/
I have not quite found the resources ($) to have the problem of managing
a large PCMCIA memory card.  My EXP modem/memory (4meg) card was/is
small enough to automatically be 1024 byes/cluster.

Phil

>Thanks,
>Paul Szilard
>

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:17:40 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Simple Tech 40MB ATA Flash
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Did I miss the posting for the part number and place to order the 40 mb card?

At 09:21 PM 1/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:21:32 +0000
>Message-ID: <19980128022124.AAB2474@12.64.8.129>
>
>On 1998-01-27 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
>   >I just got one of the Simple Technology 40MB flash cards.  It was
>   >cheap, only $270.99 for the card, and I just put it through the
>
>   >Simple Tech card, without key held down: 5.55 seconds
>
>   >"feature." All around, including the 5 year warranty, this card is
>   >probably the best I've seen yet.  And the cheapest, too.
>
>Good going David. Like another poster, I'd like to know the part-number
>and where you ordered from.
>
>- Longden
>
>PS - Is the card 3.3/5/12 volt? Any feel for the power comsumption?
>
>Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered
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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:15:19 -0700
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I can't remember much of the Stac palmtop instructions, but this is my personal
procedure.

1)      Install Stacker on any computer.
2)      Copy the following file from the Stacker installation directory:
        STACKER.COM
3)      Make a new Stacker.ini file in the root directory of your boot drive.  The
Stacker.ini created when you installed in Hidden and read-only on your other
computer.  It is easier to make your own.  Instructions on the various commands
and the parameters for the Stacker.ini file are found in the stacker.hlp file
in the stacker installation directory.  You will need windows to read it.
My stacker.ini:
/DIR=C:\STAC
A:
/AUTO
/P=10
/I-
/LZS
/Q-
/W-

4)  Reboot.

        At this point it should work.  You may want to copy over some of the utilities
like CHECK or SDIR to assist in managing your stacker volumes, if you have
room.
Hope this helps...

Bryan Pearson
Tech Support
Onyx Graphics

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From:   Christof SMTP:earl@WOHNHEIM.WAD.ORG
Sent:   Wednesday, January 28, 1998 6:55 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        install Stacker 4.0

I installed Stacker 4.0 following the instructions given at the
web-site of Stac (palmtop specific instructions).
It didn't work at all. Stacker.com is the driver but it wasn't
even included in autoexec or config...

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Claud: FTP version 1 that you showed is correct. Works for me just fine.

 www "!FTP ftp.server.name"

Is it possible your WWW.EXE version is too old?

Avi (D&A)

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Date:         Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:40:41 -0800
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Brendan: We like to leave the "dna" impression in people's minds -
harder to forget our company's name "D&A Software, Inc."...

History: Dara Khoyi and myself (Avi Meshar) founded this company in
August 1995. We added two other partners (David and Andreas -
"...because their names fit the scheme!" <G>). Dara is no longer with
us, but remains a close friend of mine.

HV began as a Garzotto thing, and later versions he published under D&A
banner. Latest version will always be on http://www.dasoft.com - SUPER
may lag...

Avi

----

Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> > > I'm wanting a html viewer for my hp200lx.
> > > that uses CGA, so that you actually have different font sizes, italics
>
> > HV from SUPER site does just that. It's actually the browser that WWW/LX
> > uses.
>
> Thanks to the several people who recommended this. It is an excellent
> product! Thanks, D&A Software Inc! (DNA?)
>
> --
> Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
> http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren      PROJECT: Inferring `essence of melody'
>  The more steeped in the art of programming, the more valued the direct hack

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:23:50 -0600
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I realize this is not really the thread here, but...
When I purchased my 2nd palmtop (one of Thaddeus's 8meg/2x jobs), I got
to playing around and found an interesting way to "create" an external
modem for my new palmtop.

I put my trusty EXP modem in the old palmtop and cabled the two palmtops
together via serial port, ran the program COMLINK on the old palmtop and
Procomm on the new one, bingo! external modem!

Phil
>

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:11:47 -0500
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> need for a Lotus Notes program for the LX.  This
would make the HPLX a powerful tool for me instead of just an indespensible
one!

Please excuse my ignorance, but I keep hearing about Lotus Notes and how
powerful it is. What makes it so powerful? I thought it was simply an
electronic sticky note program.  Will someone be so kind as to explain it
to me. If you like, you can send this message to me privately so as not to
bother the list. I am probably the only "heavy" computer user that DOESN'T
know what Notes is.

TIA


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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:03:43 -0500
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Subject:      Re: MAXCPU where?

On Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:41:23, Raffaele Gaioni wrote:

> Where can i find maxcpu?

Maxcpu is part of the Turbo.zip. It can be found at:

ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/hp95lx/hp100lx/

also check the SUPER SITE.

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Thanks for the suggestion.  However, KEY200 (and EXKEY, for that matter)
does not have any way to distinguish between left and right shift keys.
In any case, none of these lines did the trick:
Shift : Shift Shift
Shift : Shift
Shift : Shift Shift Shift Shift

Any other ideas??
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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hplx wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a .com or .exe program that will invert the screen
> (like pressing ON-/ ) and then exit?
>
> Thanks.
>
Lxstat off of SUPER site does the trick, plus many other features

Darren

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Subject:      How do I...

OK, I am happy writing macros in sysmanager, but I cannot get on
to "Select All" the text. When using the keys, it is
Func+Ctrl+Home and then Funct+Shift+Ctrl+End (or vice-versa!) and
all the text is selected, bu the system macros will onlu allow
two keys to be pressed at once...

So, How do I...

TIA
David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Thanks for your thoughts. My appreciation for the LX200 is already well
established.

My question relates to running more specific or custom  software that
isn't designed for a DOS environment. It seems some folks are running
Windows on their HP's for that reason. Speed would not necessarily be
the issue.


>----------
>From:  Brendan MacmillanSMTP:bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU
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>Sent:  January 28, 1998 5:06 PM
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>Subject:       Re: HP200LX and WinCE??
>
>> Does anyone know of an emulator that could run WinCE on an HP  200LX .
>> Some folks are having luck(?)  with Windows so I was just wondering....
>
>Don't be silly!  :)
>a) it would be too slow on the hp200lx - this inefficiency is essentially
>the problem with recent software. They are now accustomed to having
>resources to burn.
>
>b) Apart from the GUI, WinCE doesn't enable you to do anything you can't
>already do better on a hp200lx; word processing, spreadsheets, programming.
>
>
>--
>Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
>http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren      PROJECT: Inferring `essence of melody'
> The more steeped in the art of programming, the more valued the direct hack
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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:59:43 -0800
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The following helpme was posted by Mr. Ian Melville some time ago. Save it
for further ref.
<snip>

1- Start with a freshly formatted (or defragmented) card.

2- Include the following in your config.sys file:

device=a:\stacker.com
files=30
buffers=6 (you may use 15,5)
shell=d:\dos\command.com /p d:\dos

(Any device drivers needed to read drive A must be loaded before loading
the stacker device driver).

3- Create a file named 'stacker.ini' in the root dir of the drive you will
be compressing and type the following:

/P=10
/EMS (only for those with EMS available on their 200LX)
/AUTO
A:\STACVOL.DSK,RP

(Save this as an ascii file with carriage returns following each line). The
P=10 tunes Stacker for maximum compression, ie: 'MAXSPACE'. The EMS switch
saves about 35K of conventional mem.

4- Copy only these files to the 200LX:

stacker.com
create.com
screxec.exe
screxec2.exe (Total: 217,079 bytes)

(These may be placed on any drive or dir but the full path will be needed
to execute them. You may remove the last 3 after rebooting and successful
completion).

5- Terminate Appmgr and type drivepath create a: /s=0 /r=2.5

This will create a hidden stacvol.dsk on drive A using all the available
space with a comp ratio calculated at 2.5:1.

6- Reboot and you're finished. Now, wasn't this *easy* <g>.

Sidebar: Stacker 3 includes a file called stackpalm.exe which makes light
work of the above and even edits config.sys for you (of course version 3
uses no ini file).

Regards,

|     |\/||
| a n |  || e l v i l l e


note: this email is being sent from a Desktop PC that thinks its a 100LX.
I dare not tell is otherwise.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:12:41 -0600
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The freeware EMM driver for the 200LX doesn't work with Windows.  However,
The Times2Tech driver works fine with Windows (actually, with Word and
Excel; Windows itself cannot use EMS).  I noticed that on the T2T site,
their EMM driver is available separately for $20.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:20:42 -0500
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David,

I tried creating the macro you mentioned with Buddy loaded, and it worked fine in Memo.

NOTE: The keystroke sequence is CTRLFnHOME+Shift+CTRLFnEND, which is
different than that listed below.  I did not hold down the shift key.

Michael

--- On Sat, 31 Jan 1998 08:19:25 +1300  David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ> wrote:

>OK, I am happy writing macros in sysmanager, but I cannot get on
>to "Select All" the text. When using the keys, it is
>Func+Ctrl+Home and then Funct+Shift+Ctrl+End (or vice-versa!) and
>all the text is selected, bu the system macros will onlu allow
>two keys to be pressed at once...
>
>So, How do I...
>
>TIA
>David Lawrence
>katana@clear.net.nz
>
>Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:25:17 -0600
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              "James P. Grenert" <grenert.james@MAYO.EDU>
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I use PKZIP to compress large programs which I rarely use.  In particular,
I like to use it with programs that contain many small files, since these
take up extra space due to cluster size (e. g., with 4K clusters, the
minimum amount of space a 500 byte file will take up is 4000 bytes).
However, I agree with the previous response in that it would be
inconvenient to use on a regular basis.  I only PKZIP programs that
I don't use often.  For commonly-used .EXE or .COM files, Diet works
great.

J. P. Grenert
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Hey...Avi....since my name begins with an "A" does that mean that if I find
a partner who's name begins with a "D", that I can also become part of the
history making company known as D & A?

Alex Arancio
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Does anyone know what the sales figures are for HP's Palmtop PC (95/100/200LX) vs HP's
WinCE (300/320/620LX)??

I am wondering if their strategy to focus on WinCE paid off, or was a flop.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

Michael
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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:43:56 -0800
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I just received an e-mail from Marcan stating that the ATA flash cards do
not work in the HP100LX.  Does anyone know of a 40 mb card that will work
in an 100 LX?

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:46:04 -0800
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The card number is STI-ATAFL/40, and I got mine from BuyComp.

--
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Date:         Sat, 31 Jan 1998 11:46:45 +1300
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From:         John Shaw <palmtop@IHUG.CO.NZ>
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Jack W. Hsu wrote:
> I own an HP200LX which has been upgraded to 8 megs and has been clock
> doubled. I am interested in purchasing a modem, primarily to read e-mail and
> the occasional web page. I would like to have the ability to connect the
> modem to a cellular phone as well as a land line. The questions I have are
> as follows:
Firstly : what phone will you be using?

> 1)  Is it worth purchacing a modem faster than 28.8 (in other words, can a
> doublespeed 200lx keep up with the dataflow of a fast modem)?

Your cellphone (Depending on type) will run at 9600 so speed is not a
factor in the purchasing decision when using cellular only.

The cellular compatability of newer modems is better at holding data
integrity especially if moving between cells and the most important
feature of a cellular modem for 200lx is the modem's power
consumption.
The peak power consumption should be 150mA or less.

I use a combination of HP200lx + StarTac phone + APEX ClipperCom World
V.34 33.6/data 14.4/fax modem card and NetTamer software (Ver 1.08pt)
and Shier NiMh batteries to do email and news with the occasional
browse.

I started with a Practical periferals 14.4 pocket modem that was good
but an extra box & wires to carry - if it was left at home on the desk
it was easier (and less battery cost) to fire up CIM on the 486. (before
internet with Compuserve)

Next I tried an XJ1144 pc card that meant no wires to carry as I pulled
the RJ11 connector from the back of the nearest phone to connect to...
With a 2Meg 200lx and no Ram on the card for software this became a
pain when my email and forum/news volumes increased so it came to live
in a notebook (pre ram-upgrade days)

The next step was an EXP1414lxm/4m card that was perfect with the on
board ram but was back to a wire to carry and in the last year was
retired
as it had no cellular connectability

Since You have C:\=8mb I suggest a similar cellular modem to APEX .
I have cut down the PC Card to CellPhone cable to 5inches and pack my
mobile office in a Covertec belt pouch (designed for Psion) that has a
draw type arrangement in behind the main pouch with storage for 2 Psion
"fits nobody else" type cards.
The compartment can easily be modified to hold the cellular PC Card and
the curled up short cable. This is an extremely compact mobile internet
setup with enough battery life for up to an hour online which will
quickly add zeros to your cellular connection account!

Regards
John Shaw
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Hi:

I've just (this week) downloaded AWK and it looks like it will serve well=

for data mining.
I've got AND, OR and NOT working but can't figer out how to get inclustio=
n
or exclusion =

based on blank space at the front of a line:
for instance: =


if I have a data like

  Cats are nice.
  Dogs are nice
       Cats are small.
              Cats are wild.
    Dogs are fun.


Now,  /Cats/  will give me lines 1,3 &4 ; so now, how do I eliminate line=
 4
based on =

the amount it is indented?

any help much apreacheated


thnx

Mark Evans

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:11:15 -0500
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>I've written a little perl script that converts latex to html, so I
>can use the html viewer (HV from SUPER) to view LaTeX on the palmtop.

Nice job! But unless one needs the TeX source: one can actually print
out nicely wordprocessed documents (even in colour) formatted in HTML
from Netscape.

Jorgen

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:23:23 -0500
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>I've got AND, OR and NOT working but can't figer out how to get
>inclustion or exclusion based on blank space at the front of a line: for=

>instance:
>
>if I have a data like
>
>  Cats are nice.
>  Dogs are nice
>       Cats are small.
>              Cats are wild.
>    Dogs are fun.
>
>
>Now,  /Cats/  will give me lines 1,3 &4 ; so now, how do I eliminate
>line 4 based on the amount it is indented?

The '' means "the start of the line"

 /Cats/                only first line (only lines starting with 'Cats')=

 /     Cats/           only line 3 (only lines with 6 spaces and 'Cats')=

 /            Cats/    only line 4 (ditto)
 /      Cats/           line 3+4 (lines with at least 6 spaces before
'Cats')
  (or /' '+Cats/ "one or more spaces followed by 'Cats'"  )
 /     A-Za-z+/           lines starting with 6 spaces + a word

Likewise '$' means "the end of a line"

  /wild$/               example of using '$' to pick line 4

Jorgen

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jan 1998 14:53:04 +1300
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Subject:      cc:Mail

On the subject of cc:Mail, isolated as I am down here in NZ,
there is probably no way I could get enough users together to do
something actually quite simple...

cc:Mail has a gateway to the internet, via various protocols, and
the software for a PC costs about $12-1500.00 NZ If 10-15 or more
users in a group chipped in they could set up their own cc:Mail
server...

Another track I couldn't go down, as a poor student, was
Compuserve, who tell me they have a cc:Mail gateway. Trouble was,
once again, money, here in Auckland, they are far and away the
most expensive IsP, more than Three times as expensive as their
nearest competitor. $6.00 per hour Plus monthly charges, Plus
download charges!!!


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jan 1998 01:57:00 GMT
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I was browsing the web and the various abandonware sites and found
this URL to www.pumatech.com/evaluation/hp200lx.exe for sync software
etc...

Out of curiosity i truncated the URL to just www.pumatech.com and
found that it hooked up to a MICROSOFT url for the there Information
server products...=20

Can someone verify this, or are my network settings incorrect?

PS I'd hate to think that these sites are fronts for the microsoft
police...

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jan 1998 03:03:53 +0100
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On Sat, 31 Jan 1998, Ace Frehley wrote:

> I was browsing the web and the various abandonware sites and found
> this URL to www.pumatech.com/evaluation/hp200lx.exe for sync software
> etc...
>
> Out of curiosity i truncated the URL to just www.pumatech.com and
> found that it hooked up to a MICROSOFT url for the there Information
> server products...
>
> Can someone verify this, or are my network settings incorrect?
>

I got "Puma Technology - Software to Syncronize you PalmPilot, and many
other handheld devices..."

Try 209.1.144.221 as the servername instead.

Regards,

Laust
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On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, Mark L . Evans wrote:

snip

>   Cats are nice.
>   Dogs are nice
>        Cats are small.
>               Cats are wild.
>     Dogs are fun.

> Now, /Cats/ will give me lines 1,3 &4 ; so now, how do I eliminate line 4
> based on the amount it is indented?

There are several ways to do this.

You could match two regular expressions at the same time and use the
exclamation mark, which means NOT:

/Cats/ && !/        / { print }

This is basically "If it matches 'Cats' AND NOT 'beginning of line + eight
spaces' then execute whatever is in { } (in this case print)

You can go even further. For example the following will print all nice
animals, and all those cats which are not indented too far (if you don't
mind my the abuse of the English language. How do you indent a cat? :-) :

(/Cats/ && !/        /) || /nice/ { print }

Regular expressions are quite powerful and very cool.  (And thanks most go
to Jorgen Dybdahl and Brendan for introducing me to Awk, Sed, and other
Unix peculiarities. Yes gentlemen, you are responsible for many a
sleepless night ;-)

You can find the Gawk (Gnu Awk) manual at:

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/texinfodoc/gawk_toc.html

Even if you're not using gwak (and on the LX I urge you not to!) the
manual is still pretty interesting.

Regards,

Laust

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On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:

> >I've written a little perl script that converts latex to html, so I
> >can use the html viewer (HV from SUPER) to view LaTeX on the palmtop.
>
> Nice job! But unless one needs the TeX source: one can actually print
> out nicely wordprocessed documents (even in colour) formatted in HTML
> from Netscape.

Sadly, the fact that HTML doesn't include 'space', but merely considers it
a seperator can be annoying at times and &nbsp; makes far too small spaces
to be useful. With <TT>&nbsp;</TT> it helps, though ;-)

Regards,

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Date:         Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:44:51 -0800
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At 01:57 AM 1/31/98 GMT, you wrote:
>I was browsing the web and the various abandonware sites and found
>this URL to www.pumatech.com/evaluation/hp200lx.exe for sync software
>etc...
>
>Out of curiosity i truncated the URL to just www.pumatech.com and
>found that it hooked up to a MICROSOFT url for the there Information
>server products...

I think I know this one, it happened to me with an internal web server at
work the other day.  If a Microsoft Webserver restarts and can't find the
default web page that the user configured; it displays a page about Microsoft
web server products... so it probably isn't a conspiracy, just a missing
index.html
(or whatever) file.

---jws

John Stafford -- http://pw2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.html --
johnws@ix.netcom.com
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              Tony Hutchins <thutchins@ACM.ORG>
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> Another track I couldn't go down, as a poor student, was
> Compuserve, who tell me they have a cc:Mail gateway.

I'm not sure if the palmtop cc:Mail can be used - think the Cserve
gateway needs "scripting" to get through, and the palmtop version doesn't
have that. Could be wrong though<G>

> Trouble was,
> once again, money, here in Auckland, they are far and away the
> most expensive IsP, more than Three times as expensive as their
> nearest competitor. $6.00 per hour Plus monthly charges, Plus
> download charges!!!

Affirmative about the expense! However at the moment (well, for the
last 2 months) the Cserve PPP has been much better than any other Local
ISP I've tried for offshore links. I've tried XTRA, IBM. Seems Cserve
have a dedicated link out of NZ - so sometimes it is up when everybody
else is down. I also try ACTRIX occasionally. The Cserve PPP is very
stable as well - no annoying pauses for keepalives or whatever. At the
moment anyway<G>

If you use Cserve on behalf of an educarional institution you can get 20
hours a month for $25. Above 20 is at $5.50. Otherwise there are 3
plans:

Standard: $17/month for 2 hours, then $5.50/hr
Super Value<VBG>: $39.50/month for 10 hrs, then $3.95/hr
Power!!<G>: $70/month for 25 hrs, then $3.95/hr

So up to 6 hrs per month the Standard is cheapest, then up to 18 hrs
per month the Super Value, thereafter "Power"!<G>.

There are no extra charges for "downloads" or Email. It's maybe not
quite 3* anything else. Possibly more like double. But if you could
swing the "educational" plan.. that looks areally good deal!

Cserve does have sone "premium services" that you pay extra for, and
things like fax/telex/postal have special charges.

Regards, Tony

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jan 1998 12:17:11 +0200
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On the SUPER site there is an excellent discussion on how to set up Laplink
remote access to work under Windows 95. It does not mention that you can
open up a DOS window and then start up Laplink inside it. I have found a way
to get this to work and it is very useful for running the batch file which
backs up my palmtop to my desktop every week. If anyone is interested in
knowing how to do this, you can contact me.


=======================
David & Irit Becher
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Comments: cc: cameronc@ix.netcom.com

On 1930- 0-Fr HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >Any words of how to use xine?  How do you find these things?

Yup! RTM, best advice ever. Xine is fairly smart, if you go xine
file1 file2 it checks to see if the first is compressed. If it
is, it decompresses it to the second file. If it isn't, it
compresses it to the second file.

I use XTree Gold, which can log any drive and shows all files,
including hidden ones like puskeys.com and allows you to peer
inside them with it's formatting viewer.

You can highlight an exe, com or bat and run it with only a small
tag for the return code and also have an editable history list...

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Subject:      Re: Help & FastLynx...
Comments: cc: honey@nznet.gen.nz

   >I'll give your suggestions a shot.
   >Doesn't FastLynx require a special cable?

FastLynx can take advantage of a special cable to give a turbo
boost to data transfer in parallel mode, see below. It runs fine
with an "Ordinary" lap-link parallel cable and also with a serial
cable, down to only two wires!

It has it's own caching routine and on-the-fly compression, so
works out 2-25 times as fast as the CPack, especially if there
are lots of files and sub-directories.

Pinouts for the HP200LX

         Ŀ
                             
          1   2   3   4   5  
                             
                             
                             
          6   7   8   9   10 
                             
         

         Ŀ
          PIN  SIGNAL              
         Ĵ
          1    Data carrier detect 
                                   
          2    Receive data        
                                   
          3    Transmit data       
                                   
          4    Data terminal ready 
                                   
          5    Signal ground       
                                   
          6    Data set ready      
                                   
          7    Request to send     
                                   
          8    Clear to send       
                                   
          9    Ring indicator      
                                   
          10   Shield              
                                   
         
Interlink & FastLynx


25-Pin Parallel Male plugs
02 <-> 15
03 <-> 13
04 <-> 12
05 <-> 10
06 <-> 11
15 <-> 02    Interlink std parallel cable
13 <-> 03
12 <-> 04
10 <-> 05
11 <-> 06
25 <-> 25

==TURBO==

01 <-> 07
07 <-> 01
08 <-> 14
14 <-> 08
09 <-> 16     Fast Lynx extra wires for "Turbo"
16 <-> 09
17 <-> 17

HP Modem Pinouts

9-Pin   25-Pin
01 <-> 08
02 <-> 02
03 <-> 03
04 <-> 06
05 <-> 07
06 <-> 20
07 <-> 05
08 <-> 04
09 <-> 22


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jan 1998 21:06:18 -0500
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I have just returned from Taipei where my wife and I spent the big
holiday of the year (Lunar New Year) with friends. We had dinner with
some other friends and during the discussion, I mentioned the HP200LX.
The other fellow said, "I have something like that." He went into the
other room and brought back a HP95LX with dead batteries. I looked at it
and said, "This is the first one that I have seen that is marked Made in
USA".

Does anyone know how many were made in the US before they went to
Singapore?

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jan 1998 22:56:07 +0800
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Hi,

There are some things I would like to know-

1.) How to (in Turbo C) disable the On/Off key on the HP 200LX and enable
it again?
2.) Is there a way to check the palmtops's time-out other than a
peek(0x0040, 0x00A3)?

And now the tricky question:

3.) How to change so I can get NULL events every 1/9 a second instead of
1/2 second so the SysMgr's key fetching is done with less of waiting (EXM
programming)?

If you know any (or all) of the above questions- please let me know.

Thanks,

Jorgen
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|wallgren@singnet.com.sg |------------------------------------------------|
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Date:         Sat, 31 Jan 1998 11:24:48 -0500
Reply-To:     Nicholas Chan <ncknight@pacific.net.sg>
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As it was said earlier on, there *IS* a real 16Meg and 32Meg upgrade option in Japan.
The site is http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~tns/tnshp16.html. However, after I emailed them,
I got this very snotty reply.

From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCI0ohJTFbOzMbKEI=?= <UHE95457@biglobe.ne.jp>
To: ncknight@pacific.net.sg
References: <34D057A5.1AEF@pacific.net.sg>
Subject: Re: 32Meg Upgrade for HP200LX
X-Biglobe-Sender: UHE95457@biglobe.ne.jp
X-Biglobe-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 98 10:40:38 +0900
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 10:35:04 +0900
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Sorry,

AddRAM/LX(8MB) & AddRAM/LX2(16/32MB) is
 SALE and USE in JAPAN only.

TERRA Network System Co,ltd.

Now, I have this idea. There is someone from Japan on this list. I don't know if he wants
to help, but here is my idea. Whoever wants to upgrade the 200LX to 32Meg RAM
onboard, send your unit to the Toshido (??) guy, with a small surcharge, along with the
money and shipping charges. I would go for it if anyone from Japan is agreeable.
32Megs is waay my dream for my LX...
... When you open WINDOWS, you let BUGS in!

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              John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>
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Hello
I am having some trouble with the email portion of post /lx. Occasionally
when I send an email it rejects the address of the reciepient and gives me
an address unknown. Does anyone know what I can do about this? Also I am
using radio shack 1200mah Nimh batteries and they aren't lasting very long-
I get about two days per charge. The radio shack hi capicity 850 mah
nicad's lasted longer I got about 3 days per charge. This is wierd- they
should be lasting longer. Has anybody else experienced this?
John

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:48:15 -0500
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From:         Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Post/lx

On Sat, 31 Jan 1998 15:23:12, John Musielewicz <musi0009@TC.UMN.EDU>

>Hello
>I am having some trouble with the email portion of post /lx.
>Occasionally when I send an email it rejects the address of the reciepient and
>gives me an address unknown. Does anyone know what I can do about this?

I can you post an example of a rejected address?
Is the address enclosed in the < > brackets?

>Also I am using radio shack 1200mah Nimh batteries and they aren't lasting very
>long-I get about two days per charge. The radio shack hi capacity 850 mah
>nicad's lasted longer I got about 3 days per charge. This is weird- they
>should be lasting longer. Has anybody else experienced this?

I also use Radio Shack's 1200mah Nimh / 850mah Nicad and noticed the same.
The Nicad's do last longer, reason unknown.



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Date:         Sat, 31 Jan 1998 17:14:46 -0500
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              "Mark L . Evans" <MarkEvans2@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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thanks for the AWK  info., this snip is exactly the answer I was looking
for.
>
/Cats/ && !/        / { print }
<
the rest is a big help on my over all understanding.

Laust: I'm on the way to check out
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/texinfodoc/gawk_toc.html right now.


Mark

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:50:42 -0800
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The radio shack nicad batteries are probably lasting longer than the radio
shack NiMH batteries because of the high internal drain of the NiMH batts.
Much of the power loss in NiMH is due not to external power (like the
200LX) but the loss inside the batteries.  The NiMH batts from Times2 Tech
do not suffer from this problem (they last for MONTHS in storage).

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Date:         Sat, 31 Jan 1998 18:17:45 -0500
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Subject:      Look for GREP

If any one has or is using the GREP program thats mentioned in the
PE 2.1 document.

Can you please send me a copy with its documentation.


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Date:         Sun, 1 Feb 1998 01:37:07 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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On Sat, 31 Jan 1998, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> If any one has or is using the GREP program thats mentioned in the
> PE 2.1 document.

There are _lots_ of grep implementations availiable. A good and fast (the
fastest I have seen) is Xgrep, availiable from Garbo. The link is:

ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/unix/xgrep103.zip

This version is written in assembler and is therefore very fast. The .com
file is only 3.5kb. I've used it from my 95LX days and never had any
problems. There are other implementations in the same directory as the
above zip as well. If you would rather have a web interface to the files
use:

http://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/unix.html

Please note that the commandline used in the documentation will not work
with Xgrep without minor modifications which are as follows:

Original:
Grep &Dir = grep -in "@@" * >SCRATCH

Xgrep:
Grep &Dir = xgrep -yn "@@" *.* >SCRATCH
                          

> Can you please send me a copy with its documentation.

Uuh, okay. Although you could've gotten it yourself...

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Sun, 1 Feb 1998 03:13:49 GMT
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              Tony Hutchins <thutchins@ACM.ORG>
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I use JAM a lot - started with it because I don't have all the Stacker
files. I have a couple of JAM archives both about a year old and lately
they've been getting a bit slower. Then I read the examples of speed
tests here which showed up poor JAM to be a bit slow. Anyway I read the
JAM manual yesterday<G> and discovered JMAX which re-optimizes a JAM
archive. Wow, what a difference - it freed up about 40% more space and
everything runs a lot faster again. I was just wondering if the person
who did the JAM speed tests had run JMAX recently?

I use 8K clusters and still can't figure out if JAM does anything with
what would normally be "slack space"? I wouldn't be surprised if JMAX
actually packs everything in 512 byte sectors, but surely the JAM FAT
thing must still be cluster based? So, 1000 files take 1000 clusters
even if they are only 1K each?

Regards, Tony

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