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:    Sorry if this is too off topic question here, but I didn't
:    know where else to ask.

It appears that this list is enjoying a wide range of off-topic
conversations - but let's save that for another flame thread. :-|

:    I have been looking at re-writable CD player/writer's.  They
:    allow you to write to single write CD's once only, and
:    re-writable CD's many times over (don't know if there is a
:    limit).  The cost of a single use CD is 2AUD, and a
:    re-writable CD is 35AUD (conversion rate to USD is not
:    applicable, as these things are usually way cheaper in the US
:    anyway).

If I recall correctly from what I saw down at OfficeMax a few
weeks ago, it's about US$20 for a pack of 5 single use CDs.  R/W's
are around $7 for a single CD.

:    1) If I bought a re-writable CD player/writer (IDE interface),
:    is it likely to work as a reader/writer in my Palmtop?
:    Ability to read large amounts of text information into the
:    palmtop, and possibly back up a large stacked memory card.

If you actually found a PCMCIA IDE controller, you'd be set. All
you'd need to do is run the ATAPI driver supplied with the machine,
or perhaps just a basic driver like Triones CD.

:    2) Would the CD work in a laptop at a fast enough speed to
:    write to a CD?  Apparently A CD should be written in one
:    continuous stream, and stopping and starting throught the
:    middle of a file is dangerous (loss of data).

Palmtop - no.  You'd have to be able to _sustain_ a transfer rate
of just over 150K per second - a little bit of extra speed to make
up for background processor weirdness (system events, etc.)
That's to write to a CD _single speed_.  To write double speed,
like most CDR drives do now, you'd have to sustain over 300K
per second.

I seriously doubt you get 150K/s throughput copying stuff around
on the 200's ramdrive, much less through a PCMCIA adapter.

:    3) Has anyone heard of a Parallel port CD re-writer?

Sorry, no.

Hmm.  I disclaim whatever I've just said - a 2:36 hr. sleep/wake
ratio has glazed my eyes over, numbed my fingers, and turned my
brains to mush.  Must ... respond ... to ... interesting ... thread ... ;)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Nov 1997 22:46:39 -0800
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Ian Butler wrote:

> If I recall correctly from what I saw down at OfficeMax a few
> weeks ago, it's about US$20 for a pack of 5 single use CDs.  R/W's
> are around $7 for a single CD.


Hate to contribute to an off-topic thread... but I saw at Costco the other day
that they had TDK recordable CD's for $1 apiece after rebate.
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Date:         Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:50:58 +1300
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anborg wrote:
>
> In the FAQ for 'Nettamer' mention is made of fax software for the
> HP200LX and its brothers called "BGfax" I have doen a quick search and
> not yet found anything useful. Can someone point me to the file? And
> comments about use of the product?
>
> Best regards,
>
Hi Art
>From the search form on the super/new page
http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html
I got the following:

1/ BGFAX (397 K) added 03/02/97
   Version 1.70 by B.J. Guillot
   BGFAX is program written for bulletin boards or FidoNet
   mailers to allow fax and data calls on the same line.
   Works nicely on the palmtop with a small subset of files.
   Very customizable. Shareware.

2/ 2BGFAX (148 K) added 12/18/96
   Version 1.63 by Hans Harder
   2BGFAX is a program that will convert PCX and ASCII files
   into a ZyXEL FAX file that can be used by BGFAX. Freeware.

Try Quickstar Fax for palmtop from the author (shareware)
   http://WWW.QFAX.COM/

cheers

John

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> Would the CD work in a laptop ...
>3) Has anyone heard of a Parallel port CD re-writer?

Yes, NOMAI and HP sells such stuff here in the UK (parallel port SCSI). T=
he
first will work on W3.1, W95 and NT, the latter only W95 and NT. I have
unfortunately not seen any supporting DOS.

They need a 16 bit parallel port to work.

I have tried the NOMAI under W95 on my Pentium Pro (80686) copying progra=
m
CD's directly to CD's at full speed (2x). It is multisession. The W3.1
program did not come with the package but I got one from the vendors tech=

support (but have not tried it).

On a different note: unless your CD reader is capable of exporting the
format (mine can't, my fathers can), you may have problems copying audio
CD's without dumping them to the hard disk first. =


And: none of the CD readers I have tried can read the re-writable CD's,
(except the NOMAI itself)! I may have done it wrong but don't think so.
However the read-only CD's are fine.

Warning: I tried it on my fathers 150Mhz Pentium in order not to clog up =
my
own. It did not work, complaining that it could not even write at the
lowest speed (1x) to the CD. yes, his parallel port *is* 16 bit.

*** So if you buy one, make sure you can return it if it does not work on=

YOUR system!!! *** =


Please send any questions directly to me as this is very much a sideline =
on
the list.

Jorgen
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On Mon, 1 Dec 1997 00:00:32 -0500, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>Date:    Sat, 29 Nov 1997 23:30:25 -0800
>From:    childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>

>I'm having a devil of a time finding one of these things...

>Oh well... I suppose that's an omen.  I should
>take the $99 and put it toward a 2x-8mb upgrade.

That may be your best plan. I've been playing with the c140 I got, and once you
get past the wow factor of having something that looks like Windows in a
palmtop... it's not so impressive. (Maybe I'll make a Web essay on the
shortcomings, won't bore folks here.) Add the fact that I've been thinking I'd
want/need the ROM upgrade to CE 2.0 for $100, and I'm a bit over $200, in striking
distance of a used Pilot or 200 LX.

Speaking of used palmtops, does anyone have experience with
http://www.mrpalmtop.com ? They have used 1 MB palmtops for about $230 and 2 MB
for around $260 - $300 (USD), seems like a good deal, even compared to the
super-cheap Compaq CE machines ;-)

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Hello All Hello All



Thank you Stan for sending me a copy of Multiple Choice, the DOS task
switcher.
Thank you Stan for sending me a copy of Multiple Choice, the DOS task
switcher.


After racking my brain, and much searching, I finally found the keystrokes
to emulate numeric keypad keys on the HPLX.



MENU-n (where n is the number you want)
After racking my brain, and much searching, I finally found the keystrokes
to emulate numeric keypad keys on the HPLX.

MENU-Ctrl-n (for control-numeric keypad key)



I found this in a HPLX database called KEYCODE.GDB.  This was in a zip
file (KEYCODE.ZIP) with no other files.  Possibly from Murray Barton's
site.
MENU-n         (where n is the number you want)


This makes Multiple Choice useful, and I am very keen to try it out.
MENU-Ctrl-n    (for control-numeric keypad key)


You might possibly be able to remap these key strokes, as they are almost
impossible to perform while holding the HLX in one hand.




Good night.
I found this in a HPLX database called KEYCODE.GDB.  This was in a zip
file (KEYCODE.ZIP) with no other files.  Possibly from Murray Barton's
site.


David Eggins


Canberra, Australia
This makes Multiple Choice useful, and I am very keen to try it out.

davee@iname.com


You might possibly be able to remap these key strokes, as they are almost
impossible to perform while holding the HLX in one hand.



Good night.


David Eggins

Canberra, Australia

davee@iname.com

Hello All


Thank you Stan for sending me a copy of Multiple Choice, the DOS task
switcher.


After racking my brain, and much searching, I finally found the keystrokes
to emulate numeric keypad keys on the HPLX.


MENU-n         (where n is the number you want)

MENU-Ctrl-n    (for control-numeric keypad key)


I found this in a HPLX database called KEYCODE.GDB.  This was in a zip
file (KEYCODE.ZIP) with no other files.  Possibly from Murray Barton's
site.


This makes Multiple Choice useful, and I am very keen to try it out.


You might possibly be able to remap these key strokes, as they are almost
impossible to perform while holding the HLX in one hand.



Good night.


David Eggins

Canberra, Australia

davee@iname.com

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David Eggins wrote:
>
>    Hello all,
>
>    Sorry if this is too off topic question here, but I didn't
>    know where else to ask.
>
>    I have been looking at re-writable CD player/writer's.  They
>    allow you to write to single write CD's once only, and
>    re-writable CD's many times over (don't know if there is a
>    limit).  The cost of a single use CD is 2AUD, and a
>    re-writable CD is 35AUD (conversion rate to USD is not
>    applicable, as these things are usually way cheaper in the US
>    anyway).
>
>    Questions
>
>    1) If I bought a re-writable CD player/writer (IDE interface),
>    is it likely to work as a reader/writer in my Palmtop?
>    Ability to read large amounts of text information into the
>    palmtop, and possibly back up a large stacked memory card.
>
>    2) Would the CD work in a laptop at a fast enough speed to
>    write to a CD?  Apparently A CD should be written in one
>    continuous stream, and stopping and starting throught the
>    middle of a file is dangerous (loss of data).
>
>    3) Has anyone heard of a Parallel port CD re-writer?
>
>    Thank you for your patience.
>
>    David Eggins
>    Canberra, Australia
>    davee@iname.com
>
I doubt if that would be successful. While it is now possible to make CD
disks in successive sessions, I can remember that just a few years ago,
even the slight hesitation caused by a hard disk recalibrating as it was
reading was enough to make the disk being written turn into junk. Be
very careful before you buy.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Terrence Chun wrote:
>
> On 01-Dec-97, anborg wrote:
> >to an Amegia would be through the serial cable. If you don't have a PC,
> >don't buy the whole 'connectivity pak', just the cable. This would be
> >just like transfers between the Tandy and Amiga.
>
> Does anyone know if I can buy one of these HP serial cables from any computer
> store or Fry's, or do I need to mail-order this from one of the mail-order
> houses?
>
I just received my used HP200LX and worried about getting data into the
machine. The plug is not one that you will find just everywhere. I went
to the HP service center, they sent me over to a HP dealer. The dealer
said that they had none and it would take as much as four weeks to get
one from Singapore. I said that that was unreasonable. The nice young
lady thought for a moment and then told me to sit down, she called
another sub dealer and they said that they had a cable. I went there and
bought the last one in stock. Apparently the two ladies were acquainted
and the one had expressed displeasure at having this thing still in
stock.

When I got home, I realized that there was an easier way. When I bought
my HP200LX it came with a PCMCIA memory card. I just plugged that card
into my sub laptop, Wrote the files to the card and then put the card
into the HP. Quick and neat.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, David Eggins wrote:
>    I have been looking at re-writable CD player/writer's.  They
>    allow you to write to single write CD's once only, and
>    re-writable CD's many times over (don't know if there is a
>    limit).  The cost of a single use CD is 2AUD, and a
About one thousand rewrites.  And the disks are about $25-30 USD

>    1) If I bought a re-writable CD player/writer (IDE interface),
>    is it likely to work as a reader/writer in my Palmtop?
(1) I don't think there are any IDE CDR/CDRW units.  (2) How do you get an
IDE interface on the palmtop?

I haven't heard of any SCSI PCMCIA cards that work in the palmtop, due to
the current drain and the age of the card and socket services.

>    2) Would the CD work in a laptop at a fast enough speed to
>    write to a CD?  Apparently A CD should be written in one
>    continuous stream, and stopping and starting throught the
>    middle of a file is dangerous (loss of data).
Yes, and yes.  A friend of mine has one hooked up to his powerbook.  Just
make sure the internal driv eis fast enough.

>    3) Has anyone heard of a Parallel port CD re-writer?
Yes, I have one.  The Phillips OmniWriter is a SCSI unit that comes with a
SCSI-to-paralell adapter.  never tried it, though.  I'm sure the
serial-to-paralell adapters would not work with a paralell-to-SCSI after
it.

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On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Jeff Malka wrote:
> 1. If one has $100 invested at say 7%, obviously the income would be
> 100*0.07 per year.
That depends on how often it is compounded.

> However how does one calculate what the purchasing value of that $7 is in
> 30 years if the inflation rate is 4%?  The first year it would be 7*0.96.
> The following year 0.96 of that amount, etc.  Is there a @ formula or
> quick way that permits me to repeat this calulation 30 times to find out
> what the value would be in 30 years without having to manually enter the
> calculation 30 times?
That's called (in Lotusspeak) Time Value of Money, or TVM.  You can use
the TVM portion of the calculator/solver, but I think there is a 123
function @TVM().

> 2. Getting more complicated, a similar calculation in reverse.  Suppose
> one wishes to have an income of $5 a year for 30 years.  How does one
> determine the necessary funds needed to achieve this for 30 years, with
> the following considerations:
ibid.

> How does one solve to find the funds necessary to have today to achieve
> the above?
Buy Microsoft stock.

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Subject:      Re: Paolo Piovano <paolo.piovano@ACQUI.ALPCOM.IT> said: > > I
              would like to know how much it is safe storing data in the Hp200
              built-= > in software (especially Lotus 1-2-3) with a password. I
              mean, did anybody=
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Tom,

Would you mind giving me a brief explanation on how exactly to use PGP and where to get a copy that works on the HP?

Alex Arancio
Trout, Segall & Doyle LLC

Email:  store4u@troutsegall.com (business)
        Realestateconsultant@erols.com (personal)

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Even though I don't have any experience with trying to crack the passwords
on the built-in software, I only trust my private data to PGP.  I keep all
private data on my 200LX in an Info-Select stack, which is easily
encrypted/decrypted with PGP.  That data, which doesn't do me much good
unless it's with me at all times, is worth far more than the machine if it
happened to be stolen.

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Syquest has a new Flyer which uses 1 gig cartridges (at 3 for $100).
There is a parallel port version and I think retail is $200.
David Kramer wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, David Eggins wrote:
> >    I have been looking at re-writable CD player/writer's.  They
> >    allow you to write to single write CD's once only, and
> >    re-writable CD's many times over (don't know if there is a
> >    limit).  The cost of a single use CD is 2AUD, and a
> About one thousand rewrites.  And the disks are about $25-30 USD

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Text of message from thoover@POBOX.COM, 29 Nov 1997, 10:17 PM
> Even though I don't have any experience with trying to crack the
> passwords on the built-in software, I only trust my private data to PGP.
> I keep all private data on my 200LX in an Info-Select stack, which is
> easily encrypted/decrypted with PGP.  That data, which doesn't do me
> much good unless it's with me at all times, is worth far more than the
> machine if it happened to be stolen.

Can you tell us how you use PGP with Info Select?

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Check out the web site http://www.guesswork.com there you will see a
HP200LX being used as a pocket protocol analyzer

Stephen Souza
LAN Administration
COMNAVSURFLANT
TEL: (757) 322-3204
DSN:  836-3204
mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raymond Sue SMTP:rsue@PACBELL.NET
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 1997 6:41 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Network Cards
>
> Does anyone have any information on network cards that will work with
> a
> 200lx?  I would like to use mine as a network analyzer.  Nothing
> elaborate, just to detect the presence of a network.
>
> Thanks
> Raymond Sue
>
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In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Sun, 30 Nov 1997 08:39:11 EST."

Terrence Chun <tchun@UCLA.EDU> wrote:

> I love my new HP200lx (thanks Julie!).  What is the best way to connect
> this wonder to my (Amiga) desktop?  I don't have a PC, so the
> Connectivity software is useless to me, although I do have a 9-pin
> serial, 25-pin serial, and parallel ports at my disposal.  IRDA may be
> an option (still trying to track down the software/hardware for this).
> Compatibility isn't a problem as I regularly swap data between my Amiga
> and Tandy200.
>
> What is the best (and fastest) means of transferring data?

An IrDA solution may be available for the Amiga, but your safest bet is
to do ZModem transfers (via JRComm, TerMite, etc.) over a serial
cable.  The Amiga hardware was optimized for video; other I/O
performance suffered, so IrDA may not gain you much.

I note that Softwood (http://www.softwood.com/) applications are able
to handle several PC formats.  Final Calc is claimed to read and write
"Lotus 123 .WK1 files".  Final Writer (the PC version, at least) and
WordWorth reportedly handles RTF (to which you can convert LX Memo files with
DOCRTF).

In response to your later email, the serial cable is proprietary, and
HP-branded cables appear to be mail-order-only at this point.  You can
build a cable from commercially-available components, but I don't think
it's worth the trouble.

                                -Jim.

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Subject:      software

Hi all!

From much of what I have been reading, we are all on the lookout for
software.   I live in Sacramento, Calif. and we went to Vacaville (half way
between us and San Francisco) over the weekend.  I discovered a store called
Software Outlet that had half the store in DOS software!   Unfortunately, I
only had a short time to look around...but plan on going back soon!   They
had productivity and games galore.  I bought a few ....3 for $10.00.   There
are two other stores in Calif. too:

Vacaville  (707) 451-4149
Bakersfield  (805) 837-1469
San Luis Obispo   (805) 544-6616

Good luck and let me know what you find!

Cathy

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Date:         Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:41:20 -0500
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FOR SALE
=============

HP200LX 2MB
HP Connectivity Software
HP AC Adapter
Serial Cable for file transfer
Flex Light
Buddy
Original Manuals and Box
Excellent Condition

Selling only as a package.

$350.00 plus shipping

Mark Sailer
212-449-9351

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On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Cathy Schlim wrote:

> From much of what I have been reading, we are all on the lookout for
> software.  I live in Sacramento, Calif. and we went to Vacaville (half
> way between us and San Francisco) over the weekend.  I discovered a
> store called Software Outlet that had half the store in DOS software!
> Unfortunately, I only had a short time to look around...but plan on
> going back soon!  They had productivity and games galore.  I bought a
> few ....3 for $10.00.  There are two other stores in Calif. too:
>
> Vacaville  (707) 451-4149
> Bakersfield  (805) 837-1469
> San Luis Obispo   (805) 544-6616
>
> Good luck and let me know what you find!

Sounds like a gold mine! Unfortunately, the San Luis Obispo store had alot
less. The only thing I saw of interest were 2-3 packages of the HP95
Connection Kit (cable and software) at $5 each (about 2 months ago).

There were some other DOS items, but the pickin's looked lean to me (most
of the store was Windows/Mac stuff....only 2-3 racks were DOS).

I did buy a copy of "Allways" there, to use with 123....for about $5.

- Longden

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Seeking sage advice from the list.  My EXP ThinFax 2 meg pc card modem in=

MiniFax mode says "E-11 Comm port not responding".  I have checked Dataco=
mm
settings but nothing seems out of the ordinary.  Set for comm2 and follow=
ed
thinfax manual to the letter.  also tried AT commands in Datacomm but no
response.  any ideas?  thanks in advance,
tom nemeth

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I've come into a copy of MS FORTRAN 5.1 (for DOS).

Is there anyone else out there crazy enough to have installed this on
their 200LX?

If so, can you tell me what are the minimum files needed and the
approximate disk space required. Thanks.

- Longden

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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>That's called (in Lotusspeak) Time Value of Money, or TVM.  You can use
>the TVM portion of the calculator/solver, but I think there is a 123
>function @TVM().

There are 5 functions working the same way as on the good old trusted
HP-12: if you know any three/four of =


  the term
  the interest rate
  the present value
  the payment amount
  the future value

you can calculate the rest using functions: @NPV(), @IRR(), @FV(), @PMT()=
,
@PV().

Jorgen
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Date:         Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:39:37 -0500
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> I love my new HP200lx (thanks Julie!).  What is the best way to connect
> this wonder to my (Amiga) desktop?

I bought the connectivity pack, figuring that if I couldn't use it with a
PC emulation on my Amiga, I could always hook up to my wifes peecee.

What I ended up doing was buying Dataviz' software (MacLinkPlus for HP
Palmtops) and connecting to the Macintosh emulation running on my A4000.

I can load a PC floppy, the Mac side will read it, and transfer it to the
palmtop over the serial cable. (The serial cable of the connectivity pack
has an adapter which fits the Amiga's DB-25 serial port perfectly.)

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This guy's post explains why you never see Amiga computers in a resale
shop.  They are versatile!

Phil (Amiga user wannabe)

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>Sent:  Monday, December 01, 1997 3:39 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: Serial cable?
>
>> I love my new HP200lx (thanks Julie!).  What is the best way to connect
>> this wonder to my (Amiga) desktop?
>
>I bought the connectivity pack, figuring that if I couldn't use it with a
>PC emulation on my Amiga, I could always hook up to my wifes peecee.
>
>What I ended up doing was buying Dataviz' software (MacLinkPlus for HP
>Palmtops) and connecting to the Macintosh emulation running on my A4000.
>
>I can load a PC floppy, the Mac side will read it, and transfer it to the
>palmtop over the serial cable. (The serial cable of the connectivity pack
>has an adapter which fits the Amiga's DB-25 serial port perfectly.)
>
>

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Date:         Mon, 1 Dec 1997 17:17:41 -0500
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Subject:      Re: software
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Check out http://www.jumbo.com
This shareware page has an enormous amount of software and even sorts in by
operating system. I found some very interesting DOS utilities that I'm
testing on my 200LX now.

Has anyone ever heard of Instant Recall, a freeform database program? This
is a prog. I got from the site above, but have not had success running it.
My 200 gets hung up with never ending screen flashes of the Instant Recall
start up screen.

Alex Arancio
Trout, Segall & Doyle LLC

Email:  store4u@troutsegall.com (business)
        Realestateconsultant@erols.com (personal)

Phone:  (410) 435-2526
Fax:    (410) 435-4277

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Sent:   Monday, December 01, 1997 2:48 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: software

On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Cathy Schlim wrote:

> From much of what I have been reading, we are all on the lookout for
> software.  I live in Sacramento, Calif. and we went to Vacaville (half
> way between us and San Francisco) over the weekend.  I discovered a
> store called Software Outlet that had half the store in DOS software!
> Unfortunately, I only had a short time to look around...but plan on
> going back soon!  They had productivity and games galore.  I bought a
> few ....3 for $10.00.  There are two other stores in Calif. too:
>
> Vacaville  (707) 451-4149
> Bakersfield  (805) 837-1469
> San Luis Obispo   (805) 544-6616
>
> Good luck and let me know what you find!

Sounds like a gold mine! Unfortunately, the San Luis Obispo store had alot
less. The only thing I saw of interest were 2-3 packages of the HP95
Connection Kit (cable and software) at $5 each (about 2 months ago).

There were some other DOS items, but the pickin's looked lean to me (most
of the store was Windows/Mac stuff....only 2-3 racks were DOS).

I did buy a copy of "Allways" there, to use with 123....for about $5.

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:21:00 -0500
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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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CW>I never seem to get junk mail.  Am I doing something right (or wrong)?

Put your email address on a web page, or post in a newsgroup, and you
will! <g>

Jim

Jim@AirGunHQ.com

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Date:         Mon, 1 Dec 1997 19:38:24 -0500
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I bought it long ago and used it for random notes, light research and
Usenet articles that was in the boring days before "me too" articles,
excessive quoting etc. became the norm. ;8-) 

I can only say that it (then) worked fine on my 8086, 286 and later 386
(must be eons ago) and was very useful.

I know what you will say: *Go* find the manual!!! =

Well I did try but must have ditched it or - more probable - lent it to
some b*****d.

On a somewhat more useful note: since it is a TSR, it must be fighting wi=
th
some other interrupt. Try shuffling your TSRs around, delete one at a tim=
e
etc. I remember a TSR clock program that I have used on every single
computer since 1985, that suddenly did strange things on a new computer,
and had to be deleted; luckily in those 10 years I had managed to learn h=
ow
to write my own clock program so I wasn't without one long.

Jorgen
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Date:         Mon, 1 Dec 1997 20:32:35 -0600
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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I have a question I'd like to pose to the list members that use AOL and
Compuserve. I know these services have specialized areas for palmtop
users and even software libraries for the associated machines. I'm just
curious if these libraries have any other/different software than that
available at places such as the SUPER site, the eddie site and other
internet accesible areas? If so, would it be possible to get a listing of
the software available in these online service's libraries and would
anyone volunteer to help out those of us who don't use the online
services to obtain some of this software?


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Patrol/Enforcement Division
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd


    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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Date:         Mon, 1 Dec 1997 21:31:34 -0500
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>CW>I never seem to get junk mail.  Am I doing something right (or wrong)?
>
>Put your email address on a web page, or post in a newsgroup, and you will!
<g>


Without a doubt.  You don't even have to post in newsgroups.  I got flooded
after just  joining a couple of Microsoft development newsgroups.  Mailing
lists are so much nicer! <g>

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Date:         Mon, 1 Dec 1997 19:49:32 -0800
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>How does one dump the filer program from the app manager on a 200lx?
>
>I want to run a large program and 421k isn't enough...
>
If you have web access, look at the S.U.P.E.R. list.
http://www.palmtop.net/
I can't remember the file name. its something like REMFIL.ZIP. If it doesn't
work for some reason, email me and I can pull it from my archive.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:31:12 -0800
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Alvaro R. Barba Mar wrote:
>
> David:
>
> How did you get to use EGA mode in your Palmtop?  Thanks.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alvaro Barba.

What I got to work was the EGA text mode driver of Autocad Release 10.
I couldn't get the graphics mode to work at all, so all that displayed
were the menu and command areas.

David

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PGP is probably overkill for simple encryption of files.  Where it would
shine is public key encryption of email and "clearsigning" ascii text.  My
public key is a 2048 bit key..it takes forever to decrypt a message on the
200LX.  Still wouldn't be without it though.
Benson

>
> Can you tell us how you use PGP with Info Select?

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Date:         Mon, 1 Dec 1997 21:10:12 -0800
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It sounds to me that EasyShare could easily integrate Qua_lx and Pine
or elm to do what you want.

EasyShare is a DOS software agent system.  Running as a TSR it occupies
26 to 52K of memory and can be loaded in high memory.

You can download it (on a shareware basis) from:

     http://www.adisoft-inc.com/



At 11:21 PM 11/29/97 -0600, you wrote:
>I know we have discussed this before on the list but with the number of
>adept programmers on the list I thought I would pose the question/comment
>again. Has/can anyone write a program that would do PPP dialup grab and
>send email then logoff? It seems that one could make a decent amount of
>money in shareware fees for such a program. I use Qua-lx which is a nice
>program along with pine and elm when I dial into the shell account that I
>have but if someone could write a program that did nothing but email
>which was fairly small in size I think it would be quite a hit with us
>palmtoppers. Nettamer is a nice program but it seems that a "email only"
>program would be much smaller and more efficient for use on our LX
>machines. I have a couple of email accounts, two of which are only
>available via PPP, unfortunately I can't even telnet to the email server
>to retrieve it. I guess that is my Christmas wish, a simple program for
>my LX that does nothing but email via PPP.
>
>
>73 de KF4KGQ
>Jeff Johns
>jeffj@scott.net
>Reserve Captain
>Patrol/Enforcement Division
>Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
>Birmingham, Alabama USA
>http://www.bham.net/jcsd
>
>
>    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**
>
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Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
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Date:         Mon, 1 Dec 1997 21:38:39 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Mastery
Comments: To: "Alvaro R. Barba Mar" <arbm@GEOCITIES.COM>
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Yes, Mastery is shareware.

I wrote it with Prolog so it uses predicate logic.
I'm not sure what you mean by Case-Based Reasoning.

In Mastery, questions and answers are stored in a "knowledge base" so the
program "knows" which items you have mastered, which items
you have answered correctly (but need more practice on) and
which items you have just gotten wrong.

On a random basis Mastery will present a question you have missed
for review (fairly frequently).   Every once it a while (not so often)
it will present questions you have answered correctly, but which
you want to continue reviewing.

Mastery will not ask you questions that you have mastered.

Mastery can scan all the lesson files in its subdirectory to
dynamically build a lesson menu.   This makes it easy for you
to create several different lessons for study and then pick
the one you want.

Questions and answers can be quite long if necessary since I
use the built-in text editor in Prolog is used to display them.  Tutorial
material could be included with the questions if desired.

I'm using Mastery to help myself study Java and hope to
release a Java tutorial along with Mastery some time in the
future.


At 04:52 AM 11/28/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Is Mastery a shareware program? Does it use Case-Based Reasoning?
>
>Regards,
>
>Alvaro Barba.
>
>----------
>De:             Philip SeyerSMTP:pseyer@BEST.COM
>Enviado:        Mi=E9rcoles 26 de Noviembre de 1997 9:24 PM
>Para:           HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Asunto:         Re: Mastery
>
>Thanks for your message , but what are filing boxes for questions?
>I can easily modify Mastery to include new features, but I need
>a statement of your requirements.  Mastery is version 1.0
>and I am open to suggestions.
>
>For those of your who don't know, MASTERY is a DOS program
>designed to help you master any subject.  You create your
>own self-study questions and answers and Mastery will drill
>you in a systematic way until you master the material.
>
>
>
>Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\Re Mastery"
>
Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)  =20
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!=20
Phil Seyer (415) 665-8933, ext. 333

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Date:         Tue, 2 Dec 1997 07:39:36 +0100
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              Dieter Schoppitsch <shop@CYBERTRON.AT>
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Hi everybody:

I'am using Eudora on my Desktop for the whole Email-stuff.
Is there a possibility to read the Eudora-Inbox-File (in.mbx) (comfortable)
with cc:mail on the hp?

Merry X-Mas
Dieter

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Date:         Mon, 1 Dec 1997 20:44:04 -1000
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I still play around with FORTRAN, it's my native language<grin>.  Let me
know what you find out.  The version I'm using would take 342K, plus 266K
for the FORTRAE.LIB.  One of these days I'll try it.

Aloha - bob
        Old programmers never die, they just become obsolete

At 12:00 AM 12/2/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Date:    Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:35:50 -0800
>From:    "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
>Subject: MS FORTRAN advice
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>
>I've come into a copy of MS FORTRAN 5.1 (for DOS).
>
>Is there anyone else out there crazy enough to have installed this on
>their 200LX?
>
>If so, can you tell me what are the minimum files needed and the
>approximate disk space required. Thanks.
>
>- Longden

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Bob Graham wrote:

> I still play around with FORTRAN, it's my native language<grin>.  Let me
> know what you find out.  The version I'm using would take 342K, plus 266K
> for the FORTRAE.LIB.  One of these days I'll try it.


Which version is that, a different version of Microsoft Fortran, or some
other Fortran altogether?

And don't forget, everybody-- this is the Bob Graham of "BEARS.TXT" fame (the
sample files that come with VR.  :)
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Date:         Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:31:30 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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I would like to add Microsponge Exchange to this request.

>I'am using Eudora on my Desktop for the whole Email-stuff.
>Is there a possibility to read the Eudora-Inbox-File (in.mbx) (comfortable)
>with cc:mail on the hp?

I wonder if the guy who wrote Qualx <sp> would look at this?

Phil

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Date:         Tue, 2 Dec 1997 11:54:04 -0500
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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At 10:31 AM 2/12/97 -0600, you wrote:
>I would like to add Microsponge Exchange to this request.
>
>>I'am using Eudora on my Desktop for the whole Email-stuff.
>>Is there a possibility to read the Eudora-Inbox-File (in.mbx) (comfortable)
>>with cc:mail on the hp?
>

I use List (vern Beurg) to read in.mbx   Its a straight ascii file.  Memo
should do it if its not too big.

Another suggestion is to create say an HP mailbox in Eudora and tfer all
messages you want to reply to into that folder and then copy hp.mbx and
reply on the HPLX

Hope this helps

Russell

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Date:         Tue, 2 Dec 1997 12:57:01 -0500
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Subject:      Re: software (Instant Recall)
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Jorgen,

Thanks for you note. The strange thing is...I did shuffle all other TSR's.
I even disabled everyone one and when that failed, I tried running it
(Instant Recall) directly from DOS. I still get the screen flicker as soon
as I envoke the hotkey (Alt-Z).

Alex Arancio
Trout, Segall & Doyle LLC

Email:  store4u@troutsegall.com (business)


-----Original Message-----
From:   Jorgen Dybdahl SMTP:JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM
Sent:   Monday, December 01, 1997 7:38 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: software (Instant Recall)

I bought it long ago and used it for random notes, light research and
Usenet articles that was in the boring days before "me too" articles,
excessive quoting etc. became the norm. ;8-) 

I can only say that it (then) worked fine on my 8086, 286 and later 386
(must be eons ago) and was very useful.

I know what you will say: *Go* find the manual!!!
Well I did try but must have ditched it or - more probable - lent it to
some b*****d.

On a somewhat more useful note: since it is a TSR, it must be fighting with
some other interrupt. Try shuffling your TSRs around, delete one at a time
etc. I remember a TSR clock program that I have used on every single
computer since 1985, that suddenly did strange things on a new computer,
and had to be deleted; luckily in those 10 years I had managed to learn how
to write my own clock program so I wasn't without one long.

Jorgen

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Date:         Tue, 2 Dec 1997 12:15:37 -0600
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              Jaime Viehweg <jviehweg@LUCENT.COM>
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I will be taking a driving trip in Alaska next year and was planning
to take some sort of GPS setup with me.  Does anyone use some sort
of car adaptor with their HP200?  Does HP make one?  Where did you
get it?  How much did it cost?  What are the specs one should look
for?  Etc., etc.

Thanks.

jaime
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jviehweg@lucent.com  |  Globeview 2000 Lab Support

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I will be taking a driving trip in Alaska next year and was
planning
to take some sort of GPS setup with me.  Does anyone use some
sort
of car adaptor with their HP200?  Does HP make one?  Where did
you
get it?  How much did it cost?  What are the specs one should
look
for?  Etc., etc.

Thanks.

jaime
*********************

I took a trip from Orange County to San Fransisco and I purchased a
power inverter for the trip.  I was able to plug my laptop, as well=
 as
any of the adapters that plugs into my 200LX.  It`s quite versatile
since you can plug any AC device as long as you get the proper rating
for your needs.

Xerxez.

Xerxez M. Calilung, D.D.S.
Founder/President, Dentalxchange Inc.
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http://dentalarts.com

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Date:         Tue, 2 Dec 1997 13:21:30 -0800
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              Bill Buzan <bbuzan@VENUS.SUPERSTORE.COM>
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>Check out the web site http://www.guesswork.com there you will see a
>HP200LX being used as a pocket protocol analyzer
>
>Stephen Souza
>LAN Administration
>COMNAVSURFLANT
>TEL: (757) 322-3204
>DSN:  836-3204
>mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil

I called this group one time to see if they made the product available to
current 200LX owners since the web only shows pricing for the entire bundle:
LX, NIC, and software. They will sell entirely unbundled. The software is a
little pricey but much less than any other protocol analyzer I've seen.

The tech I spoke with said it required over 400K to run. Since the NIC takes
up the PACMAN slot, captures would need to be stored in RAM. Guesswork
turnkey units are 2MB but I think you'd really want to use a 6-8MB unit
depending on the filtering you're using.

Bill Buzan

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Date:         Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:28:52 -0500
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Friends,

What if I received a file from one of our palmtop gurus that would crack the
password protection on any 200LX file encrypted with the unit's built-in
password algorithm...

<think>

Should this type of thing be posted on S.U.P.E.R. or not? My first thought
would be, "Yes, of course it should". That would be a great way to
illustrate the fact that sensitive data should not be entrusted to the
password algorithm.

I posed this same question to a friend and he had some reservations. He said
that you normally post such "bug reports" and let the powers-that-be fix
things. In this case though, HP would be that "power" and I don't really
expect them to lift a finger for the 200LX ever again. This would be
effectively negating one "feature", though flawed, of the 200LX.

So what do you think? Would you prefer to have the master key to all the
doors, or would you instead like to suppress the key and hide your secrets
behind those doors knowing that a master key exists?

</think>

Mitch

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Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:

> What if I received a file from one of our palmtop gurus that would
> crack the
> password protection on any 200LX file encrypted with the unit's
> built-in
> password algorithm...


So I assume that such a utility exists.  What we need, then, is a more
advanced encryption program.  I say we should create a little utility--
maybe a TSR-- to enhance the password protection built in, since it is
now not-so-secure.

However, there's no reason not to post the file.  It will probably still
leak out and then only the most determined password-crackers would have
access to it.  If the source code is included, we could examine it and
come up with new encryption techniques.
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Date:         Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:58:07 -0500
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>advanced encryption program.  I say we should create a little utility--
>maybe a TSR-- to enhance the password protection built in, since it is
>now not-so-secure.

I just hope this is not as difficult as say, adding calculation functions to
the database or patching cc:Mail to do POP3 email. :) A system level TSR
(maybe PGP.TSR or RSA.TSR) that would work with the File->Password function
would be quite nice. But who wil write such a thing?

>access to it.  If the source code is included, we could examine it and
>come up with new encryption techniques.

That's the nice thing. I imagine this crack utility to be distributed with
the C source code.

Mitch

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Date:         Tue, 2 Dec 1997 13:05:22 -0800
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Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:

> I just hope this is not as difficult as say, adding calculation
> functions to
> the database or patching cc:Mail to do POP3 email. :) A system level
> TSR
> (maybe PGP.TSR or RSA.TSR) that would work with the File->Password
> function
> would be quite nice. But who wil write such a thing?

Aye, there's the rub.  Well, in the first place, we need somebody who
understands encryption schemes, and how it might be done on the 200LX.
But if the passwords can be cracked, then it's a pretty needed utility--
one that will encrypt your data more securely.


> That's the nice thing. I imagine this crack utility to be distributed
> with
> the C source code.


That would be handy.  I'd be glad to give it a shot... but I've never
really figured out how SysMan compliant TSR's work.  :)
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I have an 8 meg EXP flash modem, and it does have a noticeable impact on
battery life--I'd estimate about 25%.  I also have a double-speed CPU,
and together they bring my battery life down closer to half what it was
before.  Both are well worth it, though I'm wondering if I could get by
with just a regular modem card if I up my C: drive to 8 megs (currently
five).  As it is I tend to pop out the EXP card whenever it's not in
use.

Hope this helps,

Tim

Kurt von Knoll 61 8 9491-6641 wrote:

> G'day,
>         for the people who have EXP flash/modem combo cards - how do
> you
> find it effects battery life?
>
> Cheers,
> Kurt
>

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As with any database system, Lotus Agenda can experience corrupt database files at times.

If you are a dedicated Agenda user on a 200LX, you can run Agenda for very long periods of time w/o shutting
down the program periodically.  The problem with this is, Agenda performs certain database file housekeeping
chores only when the file is closed, such as when you shut-down the program.  The longer you add items to the
database without doing these chores, the greater the risk of a corrupt database file.

Recommendation, either shut down Agenda or open another database file periodically.


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Date:         Tue, 2 Dec 1997 16:13:18 -0500
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As far as a utility to perform this would go it would be nice to have.
I have on file a set of instructions on how to manually remove the
password protection from files but have not had a need to use it.
If I was concerned about the file safety I will use PGP or keep the
data secure in a safe. Any generic type encryption program is
just to keep honest people out, it would not defeat a cracker or
a government agency.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitchell B. Hamm SMTP:mitch@PALMTOP.NET
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 1997 3:29 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      A question of morality...
>
> What if I received a file from one of our palmtop gurus that would
> crack the
> password protection on any 200LX file encrypted with the unit's
> built-in
> password algorithm...
>

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Mitch,

The question is, what is the probability that a listee would have the bad intent and the opportunity to break
into another user's 200LX and bypass the password?

There really aren't that many units out there, so a very small percentage of the world's population has one.

The number of listees with bad intent is hopefully very small.

Therefore, the combination of the two above small percentages results in such a small number that the risk of
incident is probably insignificant.

Michael

--- On Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:28:52 -0500  "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET> wrote:

>Friends,
>
>What if I received a file from one of our palmtop gurus that would crack the
>password protection on any 200LX file encrypted with the unit's built-in
>password algorithm...
>
><think>
>
>Should this type of thing be posted on S.U.P.E.R. or not? My first thought
>would be, "Yes, of course it should". That would be a great way to
>illustrate the fact that sensitive data should not be entrusted to the
>password algorithm.
>
>I posed this same question to a friend and he had some reservations. He said
>that you normally post such "bug reports" and let the powers-that-be fix
>things. In this case though, HP would be that "power" and I don't really
>expect them to lift a finger for the 200LX ever again. This would be
>effectively negating one "feature", though flawed, of the 200LX.
>
>So what do you think? Would you prefer to have the master key to all the
>doors, or would you instead like to suppress the key and hide your secrets
>behind those doors knowing that a master key exists?
>
></think>


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My local Office Depot has started displaying the HP200LX for sale
again after a long absence.  Maybe they realized the people do buy
these things.

-Bryan

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Has anyone had any experience running Sidekick 2.0 on their 200lx?

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     Hi Folx,

     Anyone out there using Dosline (program to execute a dos line from
     filer -- available from SUPER)?  I installed it along with moreEXM and
     followed the instructions, but dosline just doesnt work.  When in
     filer, using the keystroke i put in the .ini file just gives me a
     beep.  Any hints out there?

     Thanks,

     Rob

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Date:         Tue, 2 Dec 1997 14:13:57 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Since you asked <g>.....

I'm still fussing with the install, but I got it down to 1.7mb of disk
space (in 26 files) so far. This omits graphics libs, uses medium-model
not large, runs from command line omits online help & descriptive error
msgs (in keeping with a great FORTRAN tradition <g>).

I tried to install using 8087 support, but got a floating point run-time
error (guess the 8087 emulation on the LX isn't close enough) and had to
re-install using the option to compile with 8087 emulation.

I was able to compile and run the sample "double precision whetstone
program" without apparent problems (meaning I don't have a clue as to what
a good result would be....only that I didn't get any obvious run-time
errors). The program calls a variety of FORTRAN trig and log functions so
I know the math libraries are being used.

The experiment may just end here, since I don't know how often I'd be
using this. Just wanted y'all to know it worked despite the box's system
requirement of 80286 or higher cpu (probably more of a recommendation than
a requirement since it also stated a minimum of DOS 3.0).

- Longden


On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Bob Graham wrote:

> I still play around with FORTRAN, it's my native language<grin>.  Let me
> know what you find out.  The version I'm using would take 342K, plus 266K
> for the FORTRAE.LIB.  One of these days I'll try it.
>
> Aloha - bob
>         Old programmers never die, they just become obsolete
>
> At 12:00 AM 12/2/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >From:    "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
> >Subject: MS FORTRAN advice
> >
> >I've come into a copy of MS FORTRAN 5.1 (for DOS).
> >
> >Is there anyone else out there crazy enough to have installed this on
> >their 200LX?
> >
> >If so, can you tell me what are the minimum files needed and the
> >approximate disk space required. Thanks.

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Date:         Tue, 2 Dec 1997 17:20:47 -0500
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Came across the following site selling used computer books and software, many of them for DOS.  It seems that
these items where donated to an AIDS center in Montreal for resale.

   http://pages.infinit.net/msoucy/booksw.html

Please note that I am in no way associated with this charity.  Proceed at your own risk.
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  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           12/2/97 5:14:09 PM EST
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Rob,

On Tue, 2 Dec 1997 13:27:33 -0800
Rob Pugliese <roberto_pugliese@om.cv.hp.com> wrote:

> Item Subject: cc:Mail Text
>      Hi Folx,
>
>      Anyone out there using Dosline (program to execute a dos line from
>      filer -- available from SUPER)?  I installed it along with moreEXM and
>      followed the instructions, but dosline just doesnt work.  When in
>      filer, using the keystroke i put in the .ini file just gives me a
>      beep.  Any hints out there?

1. Do you have other program, in your MOREEXM.INI, working fine? Or
   is it the first time to user MOREEXM?

2. Please check MOREEXM is loaded with no problem and you have enough
   room in TCB for use by MOREEXM (Confirm you have not added maximum
   number of app to AppMgr).

3. Keystroke i for a hot key?  No. You should not use a plain key as
   a hot key.


Toshiki Sasabe
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  work: toshiki.sasabe@digital.com

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I use it regularly with no problems. I load moreexm.com in autoexec.bat =
with a line A:\BIN\MOREEXM.COM. My moreexm.ini has a line in it like: =
A:\BIN\DOSLINE.EXM, 08A9,1,{Fn+123} The last parameter is just a =
reminder to me that {Fn+123} is the hot key I have chosen (key code =
08A9). It doesn't have to be the program name, it can be anything.
Your most likely problem is having the wrong key code. You can check =
keycodes with chkkey.com. Also, dosline.exm won't work if you already =
have a DOS program running or a DOS box open. It will work from any of =
the built-in applications, not just from Filer.


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     Hi Folx,

     Anyone out there using Dosline (program to execute a dos line from
     filer -- available from SUPER)?  I installed it along with moreEXM =
and
     followed the instructions, but dosline just doesnt work.  When in
     filer, using the keystroke i put in the .ini file just gives me a
     beep.  Any hints out there?

     Thanks,

     Rob

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: I will be taking a driving trip in Alaska next year and was planning
: to take some sort of GPS setup with me.  Does anyone use some sort
: of car adaptor with their HP200?  Does HP make one?  Where did you
: get it?  How much did it cost?  What are the specs one should look
: for?  Etc., etc.
:
: Thanks.

EduCALC used to make one.  Too bad they went the way of the ...
um ... old things or whatever.  Anyways, here's my thought (no
warranties):

        Car electrical system: 10-18V DC.
        200LX input voltage: 9-18V DC.

Couldn't you just wire it directly to your car, maybe just straight
through wiring from a cigarette lighter electrical plug to a 200LX
style barrel power connector?  Perhaps a .5A fuse would be in
order as well.  I think, as long as the polarity was correct, you'd be
OK.  Hell, just wire it to your "clock power" connector on your radio -
just leave the 200 in the car overnight to charge it! ;)

In all seriousness, I think that would work just fine.

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

The Internet isn't a network of Pentium II's connected with T5
fiber optics - more along the lines of 110 baud land line connections
over rusty wires to compulsive ZX81's.

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Greetings:

On Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:28:52 -0500,
        "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET> Wrote:

> What if I received a file from one of our palmtop gurus that
> would crack the password protection on any 200LX file
> encrypted with the unit's built-in password algorithm...
>
> Should this type of thing be posted on S.U.P.E.R. or not?...

IMHO: It would seem that this would be used more as a beneficial tool
rather than one for nefarious purposes. The risk to us seems minumal,
and it would be nice to have the ability to crack a forgotten password.

If you use your LX for sensitive material, it would seem another
encryption algorithm should be considered.

Cheers,

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Date:         Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:51:27 -0800
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I have just installed WWW/LX on my 100 LX/2 meg, and have a question:  what
is the IP address for Netcom?  Has anyone else done this setup?  What
parameters did you use?



THANKS!

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On Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:18:42 -0500, you wrote:

>I will be taking a driving trip in Alaska next year and was
>planning
>to take some sort of GPS setup with me.  Does anyone use some
>sort
>of car adaptor with their HP200?  Does HP make one?  Where did
>you
>get it?  How much did it cost?  What are the specs one should
>look
>for?  Etc., etc.
>
>Thanks.
>
>jaime
I got one at the Rat Shack...=20
Just watch out as the center pin is the NEG
and the outer shell is the POSITIVE...

=46ound a nice one for a radar detector that was a coil-cord..

I put a RED tape marker on the plug so I will not mix it up and=20
burn out something...

___
      73  Dean W5GXL
          deanl@bigfoot.com

___

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Date:         Tue, 2 Dec 1997 17:56:56 -0600
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Im curious about how much space is available on your LX/2mb after WWW/LX
installation. Ive been thinking about going to it (testing NetTamer but not
happy) but was curious about how much space it takes.

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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> From: Claud G. Cameron <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: WWW/LX and Netcom
> Date: Tuesday, December 02, 1997 5:51 PM
>
> I have just installed WWW/LX on my 100 LX/2 meg, and have a question:
what
> is the IP address for Netcom?  Has anyone else done this setup?  What
> parameters did you use?
>
>
>
> THANKS!
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At 03:28 PM 2/12/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Friends,
>
>What if I received a file from one of our palmtop gurus that would crack the
>password protection on any 200LX file encrypted with the unit's built-in
>password algorithm...
>
><think>
>
>Should this type of thing be posted on S.U.P.E.R. or not? My first thought
>would be, "Yes, of course it should". That would be a great way to
>illustrate the fact that sensitive data should not be entrusted to the
>password algorithm.


Interesting question...    The presumption is that there is only one key and
it is THE key...  I prefer after reading a LARGE cryptography book to assume
any data is able to be read by anyone with enough patience,time,and effort.
If you release this file to the list it will shorten the time needed to read
password encrypted data.  In WWII the trick to encryption was that each key
was unique..rendering effort expended to time needed to information gained
to not be worth it...  however the computing power eventually was able to
interpret the messages even if it was 2-3 days/weeks/months later...all that
was needed was motivation.

I fear the reliance on "encryption" and "secure forms" is VERY misleading.
If someone wants your info they WILL get it.   It depends on how time
sensitive it is.  IE  If the info on your LX was able to be published
tomorrow worldwide vs in 3 months what would be the difference?  Credit card
details are unchanging and the data is valid even 6 months after a
transaction.

Mitch by even mentioning there is a util available people that are either
curious,malicious or have some ulterior motive will already be searching for
the key to cracking the password issue.  By releasing the util and/or source
code to the list you may provide some protection via a wariness factor for
those that rely on the inbuilt protections..

I guess IMHO its like letting everyone know there is a master key somewhere
in the back yard an you had better change the locks..  If it is your house
ok  if not then the owner is out of luck if someone else has the key and the
intent.

Suggestion...  Put the util up and password protect it  <G>  sort of
redundant dont you think?  :))

cheers

Russell

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Date:         Tue, 2 Dec 1997 19:53:52 -0500
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>So what do you think? Would you prefer to have the master key to all the=

>doors, or would you instead like to suppress the key and hide your secre=
ts
>behind those doors knowing that a master key exists?

<thought>

If you get it, you can be sure that it will be "public" notice on the
"cracker" boards, that undoubtedly still exist.

Quite another thing is that I many years ago gave a friend an encryption
program. He called a year later and claimed that he remembered the key
but suddenly couldn't decrypt it. It would be nice to have access to a
master key in such cases.

After all, the code breaker would have to have stolen a HP-LX, would have=

to be subscriber to this list, remember that the program could be found
on the Super Site and expect to be able to make use of the decrypted
data etc. I also remember from the days as computer manager that people
use simple passwords that any determined person could break - I won't
mention them as they probably have not been changed.

Publish (and be ***damned***).

</thought> (or perhaps: !thought)

Jorgen

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The password issue wouldn't affect me so my opinion may seem trivial
but I say go ahead and release it.
        Richard Bueker

Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:
>
> Friends,
>
> What if I received a file from one of our palmtop gurus that would crack the
> password protection on any 200LX file encrypted with the unit's built-in
> password algorithm...

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I don't see a problem releasing it to the site.  In fact, it sure would have
helped me around 8 months ago when one of my password protected files got
corrupted and each time I tried to open it I had the wrong password.  I had to
eventually erase it and start all over again.  It's not like we keep our HP's
plugged up to the NET all day to allow someone to access it and find our
passwords.  The only way someone can get our personal information from our HP's
and figure out the password on protected files is if they stole it or we lost
it.  I keep only information on my Palmtop that I don't mind everyone knowing
about.  I don't use Quicken nor place all of my credit card information on
it...............

My $.02 worth...............



Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:

> Friends,
>
> What if I received a file from one of our palmtop gurus that would crack the
> password protection on any 200LX file encrypted with the unit's built-in
> password algorithm...
>
> <think>
>
> Should this type of thing be posted on S.U.P.E.R. or not? My first thought
> would be, "Yes, of course it should". That would be a great way to
> illustrate the fact that sensitive data should not be entrusted to the
> password algorithm.
>
> I posed this same question to a friend and he had some reservations. He said
> that you normally post such "bug reports" and let the powers-that-be fix
> things. In this case though, HP would be that "power" and I don't really
> expect them to lift a finger for the 200LX ever again. This would be
> effectively negating one "feature", though flawed, of the 200LX.
>
> So what do you think? Would you prefer to have the master key to all the
> doors, or would you instead like to suppress the key and hide your secrets
> behind those doors knowing that a master key exists?
>
> </think>
>
> Mitch
>
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On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, mdstockr wrote:

> The question is, what is the probability that a listee would have the
> bad intent and the opportunity to break into another user's 200LX and
> bypass the password?
>
> There really aren't that many units out there, so a very small
> percentage of the world's population has one.
>
> The number of listees with bad intent is hopefully very small.
>
> Therefore, the combination of the two above small percentages results in
> such a small number that the risk of incident is probably insignificant.
>

I agree.  The odds of it being useful to someone is much greater (IMHO)
than the odds of it being used against them.  I studied crypto a little.
AFAIK the password-protected files on the 200 are run through a two-way
hash with the key, but the key is not stored anywhere in the file.  But
each of the 200's formats probably has some constant header information.
If one hacked/knew the algorithm, the  could probably be computed by
reversing the hash functions on that offset.



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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Due to the numerous positive responses (and no negative ones) that I have
received concerning my aforementioned "morality" issue, I have decided to
include HPCRACK by Jan Brands as part of the S.U.P.E.R. collection. I do this
with clear conscience knowing that the utility and source code contained in the
archive will only be used for the good of HP palmtoppers everywhere.

Say halleluja!

:)

Mitch
http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html

p.s. - I will also be happy to post the algorithm fix that I'm sure will be
forthcoming.

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Jaime Viehweg wrote:
>
> I will be taking a driving trip in Alaska next year and was planning
> to take some sort of GPS setup with me.  Does anyone use some sort
> of car adaptor with their HP200?  Does HP make one?  Where did you
> get it?  How much did it cost?  What are the specs one should look
> for?  Etc., etc.
>
> Thanks.
>
> jaime
> --
I have never encountered such a thing and I doubt seriously that HP
would encourage it's use. The main point is that anything that you
connect to the car's power has the whole power of the car battery behind
it. Thus, If you connect the HP200LX to the car battery and then perhaps
connect the GPS to the car battery. Then connect the GPS to the HP, The
results might be unpredictable. However, if you were careful and tested
everything along the way, there should be no real difficulty. I would
put a regulator on the line from the cigarette lighter with a really
powerful zener diode across the incoming power. When the starter
disconnects, it puts some real spikes (150V.) on the power line. That is
why your car radio is shut off when the starter runs. The car voltage
can easily go up to 16 volts. Also check and make sure that there are no
polarity or grounding implications with the GPS. The HP seems completely
covered in a non conductive case. However, when you connect it to the
GPS, the GPS becomes part of the battery circuit. I don't know if anyone
still makes a car with the plus terminal grounded but if so, that could
be dangerous. Probably not hazardous to life but to the equipment.
Include a fuse.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Insta Tech PTV-30 Dos palmtop
        - $250 brandnew in the box
        - with built-in standard RS-232 9pin serial port
        - with built-in standard DB25pin printer port
        - touch-type-able standard U.S. keyboard
                (Attn: HP200LX HP100LX owners)
        - 20 hrs battery life (use AA)
        - WYSIWYG (640X200 screen)

No more wishing for a bigger keyboard....
no more getting all kinds of cables & adaptors...
..this may be the answer for HP palmtop owners.

X-mas special & limited quantity.
SALE is FINAL & in person in CA only b/c maker is oversea.
You must check it out & be satisfied before buying.
NO MAIL ORDER...CA ONLY!!!!

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I just wanted to let the folks who have been busy making the EVA files
know that I have really been enjoying them :) Also, it amazes friends and
family when I show them these "mini" movies on my palmtop. One of my
friends who is a "computer geek" just stood there with his mouth wide
open, hehehe. Once again, thanks!!!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Patrol/Enforcement Division
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd


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I have the following for sale:

EXP Thin Fax Modem
2400/9600 Fax Modem
Thin Fax Software built into card (use no precious RAM)
Designed for HP100/200LX
Includes Original Box & Manual

This modem is no "speed demaon" but would be agreat modem for someone who
sends a lot of faxes from their palmtop. Actually, when accessing the net
via a shell account or a BBS the 2400 speed is quite acceptable. If
interested, email me with an offer. I also would be willing to trade for
a X-jack Megahertz modem.


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Patrol/Enforcement Division
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd


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Date:         Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:28:35 +1100
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> I just wanted to let the folks who have been busy making the EVA files
> know that I have really been enjoying them :) Also, it amazes friends and
> family when I show them these "mini" movies on my palmtop. One of my
> friends who is a "computer geek" just stood there with his mouth wide
> open, hehehe. Once again, thanks!!!

Please, please, please, could you send me one! Or pop them on the
SUPER site. It's very, very cool!

Also, someone else mentioned they had some eva's of BMW ad's - but I must
have missed them.

Thank you, thank you, thank you
        bren@cs.monash.edu.au

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D'oh! My apologies! I didn't realise that these are *already* on the
SUPER site!

Now, I have to make a heap of disk space!
> > One of my friends who is a "computer geek" just stood there with
> > his mouth wide open, hehehe. Once again, thanks!!!

hp200lx beats WinCE!
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Jeff wrote:

> I have the following for sale:
>
> EXP Thin Fax Modem
> 2400/9600 Fax Modem
> Thin Fax Software built into card (use no precious RAM)
> Designed for HP100/200LX
> Includes Original Box & Manual
>
> This modem is no "speed demaon" but would be agreat modem for someone who
> sends a lot of faxes from their palmtop. Actually, when accessing the net
> via a shell account or a BBS the 2400 speed is quite acceptable. If
> interested, email me with an offer. I also would be willing to trade for
> a X-jack Megahertz modem.
>
> 73 de KF4KGQ
> Jeff Johns
> jeffj@scott.net
> Reserve Captain
> Patrol/Enforcement Division
> Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
> Birmingham, Alabama USA
> http://www.bham.net/jcsd
>
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  Hello I'm looking for modem like Yours.
what price is?

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zot2u@earthlink.net wrote:

> Insta Tech PTV-30 Dos palmtop
> No more wishing for a bigger keyboard....
> no more getting all kinds of cables & adaptors...
> ..this may be the answer for HP palmtop owners.


This is the machine I've been talking about... it's gigantic.  However,
it could be useful if somebody needs a built-in parallel port.
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Hello,

I have a problem that has been nagging me for years.

I have accumulated a number of modems connected to various computers.
These in general work ok but when I install new software, I am always
asked questions like, is this a class 1 or class 2 fax modem. The user's
manual never gives a clue to this information. I have one modem that has
the creative name, "Pcmcia Fax Modem Card 28.8 Kbps." I have the
original manuals for this and all the manual is is a generic list of
Hayes commands.

My answer so far is to wing it and hope for the best. However, I don't
think that this is the best way to solve the problem. Please, someone
who knows a better answer, pass it along.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Hello All,

The quoted email is from a contact of mine in Miami who, for the second
time, reported that the date shown is out of whack. I do all my email=
 on
the 200LX using PostLX. I have heard no comments from anyone else regarding=

dates on my email and out of curiosity wanted to know if anyone out=
 there
is using AK and know about this.

> Thanks for the e-mail. It arrived to us with a very strange date (1/1/70)=

> Are you having this problem with anyone else?  We use an odd little=
 mail
> program called AK-Mail (2.0b), so I suppose it is possible that there=
 is a
> conflict on our end. We have not had this problem with anyone else.

Best regards.

"Money is an asset to earthly life. It procures facilities. But attachment =

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>I just wanted to let the folks who have been busy making the EVA files
>know that I have really been enjoying them :)

Would it be possible for you (Jeff) or another EVA guru to put together a
mini how-to on producing them? I would like to try my hand and figure it
would save some time not having to learn the whole process from scratch. I
will be happy to place your how-to on palmtop.net for all to see.

Mitch

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Date:         Wed, 3 Dec 1997 07:42:10 -0600
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I wish I knew how to make them, Mitch, but I don't. I just really enjoy
watching them. Hopefullt, someone will write a "how to".


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Patrol/Enforcement Division
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd


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On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:

> >I just wanted to let the folks who have been busy making the EVA files
> >know that I have really been enjoying them :)
>
> Would it be possible for you (Jeff) or another EVA guru to put together a
> mini how-to on producing them? I would like to try my hand and figure it
> would save some time not having to learn the whole process from scratch. I
> will be happy to place your how-to on palmtop.net for all to see.
>
> Mitch
>
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>From:    David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
>
>So I assume that such a utility exists.  What we need, then, is a more
>advanced encryption program.  I say we should create a little utility--
>maybe a TSR-- to enhance the password protection built in, since it is
>now not-so-secure.

Secure encryption exists for any DOS machine; it's called SecureDevice.
From the program doc...

>SecureDevice is a device-driver that will help you keep your private data
>private. It creates 'extra drives' on your system that are accessible
>just like normal disk drives, but everything you transfer to the volume
>will be encrypted using the IDEA encryption algorithm, and when you
>transfer data from the volume it will be automatically decrypted. The
>encryption/decryption mechanism is transparent to DOS and other
>application programs.

Of course this wouldn't enhance the built in HPLX password protection.
Instead you wouldn't use HP's passwords at all and instead you'd store
your files in the encrypted SecureDevice drive.

Cheers...
Russ

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You can download SecureDevice from...

  ftp://utopia.hacktic.nl/pub/replay/pub/disk/secdev14.arj

Cheers...
Russ

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Date:         Wed, 3 Dec 1997 05:39:23 -1000
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              Bob Graham <bgraham@ALOHA.NET>
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David - If I remember right it is an IBM version I picked up 10-12 years ago
to run on a PC -- don't even remember the version.  I've used it on
everything from an old XT to a Pentium and it works fine -- now I'm going to
have to try it on my HP200LX.  Usually I write the programs on the HP200LX
using Memo because it is handy, them move them to my desktop or laptop to
compile, debug and run.

Thanks for remembering BEARS.

Aloha - bob    \ooo_

>Date:    Mon, 1 Dec 1997 23:11:43 -0800
>From:    David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
>Subject: Re: MS FORTRAN advice
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>Bob Graham wrote:
>
>> I still play around with FORTRAN, it's my native language<grin>.  Let me
>> know what you find out.  The version I'm using would take 342K, plus 266K
>> for the FORTRAE.LIB.  One of these days I'll try it.
>
>
>Which version is that, a different version of Microsoft Fortran, or some
>other Fortran altogether?
>
>And don't forget, everybody-- this is the Bob Graham of "BEARS.TXT" fame (the
>sample files that come with VR.  :)
>--
>Visit the HP200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp
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Date:         Wed, 3 Dec 1997 05:39:25 -1000
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Longden - can you send me the sample "double precision whetstone program"
and I'll see if it'll run on my compiler.  Just attach it to e-mail or if it
is too big zip it down with PKZIP and attach it.

Thanks and aloha - bob    \ooo_

>Date:    Tue, 2 Dec 1997 14:13:57 -0800
>From:    "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
>Subject: Re: MS FORTRAN advice
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>
>Since you asked <g>.....
>
>I'm still fussing with the install, but I got it down to 1.7mb of disk
>space (in 26 files) so far. This omits graphics libs, uses medium-model
>not large, runs from command line omits online help & descriptive error
>msgs (in keeping with a great FORTRAN tradition <g>).
>
>I tried to install using 8087 support, but got a floating point run-time
>error (guess the 8087 emulation on the LX isn't close enough) and had to
>re-install using the option to compile with 8087 emulation.
>
>I was able to compile and run the sample "double precision whetstone
>program" without apparent problems (meaning I don't have a clue as to what
>a good result would be....only that I didn't get any obvious run-time
>errors). The program calls a variety of FORTRAN trig and log functions so
>I know the math libraries are being used.
>       .....snip......
>- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 3 Dec 1997 08:33:05 -0800
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The exact dimension is:
11.6cm(L) X 23.5cm(W) X 32cm (H)

The exact same size as a Libretto (EXACTLY in width and height except it
is longer half an inch).
Don't take anyone's words for it.  See it for yourself when you buy it.

It beats carrying a GIGANTIC external keyboard around.  It is better to
have everything there and flip up the screen and you have a good
keyboard ready to go.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Dec 1997 12:01:32 -0500
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>By releasing the util and/or source code to the list you may provide some
protection via a wariness factor for those that rely on the inbuilt
protections..

I wonder if the same argument can be made for gun control here in the US.
By allowing anyone to carry arms, you provide some protection via a
wariness factor for those whom rely on the inbuilt protections...(of
society?).

IMHO, the utility will be a very useful tool. I'm a realestate/computer
consultant primarily training executives and professionals how to use the
Palmtop (and other PDA's) to run their businesses. I've had more than one
occasion of a client calling up and saying, "Hey...I lost my password! Do
you know what it is?"

Now I can say....Well, Yeah...I guess I do!

Alex Arancio
Trout, Segall & Doyle LLC

Email:  store4u@troutsegall.com
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Date:         Wed, 3 Dec 1997 12:09:04 -0500
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Anyone try the EVA movies on a Double Clocked HP200?

On mine the audio is just noise.  Is this because of the clock rate?
I don't have my second HP200 with me today to test on a "normal" unit.


Mark

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Date:         Wed, 3 Dec 1997 12:40:36 -0500
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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>On mine the audio is just noise.  Is this because of the clock rate?
>I don't have my second HP200 with me today to test on a "normal" unit.

EVA audio sounds like noise most of the time anyway. You're not missing much. :)

Mitch

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Date:         Tue, 2 Dec 1997 23:56:32 +0000
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> So what do you think? Would you prefer to have the master key to all the
> doors,

No, by all means.

> or would you instead like to suppress the key and hide your secrets
> behind those doors knowing that a master key exists?
>

YES !
Everyone should be aware of the fact that the built-in password
protection is not absolutely safe, that is true. But such a program
on S.U.P.E.R. would turn the feature to be useless at all.

Regards,
Christof

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Date:         Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:17:16 -0500
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>protection is not absolutely safe, that is true. But such a program
>on S.U.P.E.R. would turn the feature to be useless at all.

Alas, you are too late Christof. Pandora's box is open...

Mitch

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Date:         Wed, 3 Dec 1997 10:03:56 -0800
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              John Stafford <johnws@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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fyi there is a mailing list for CDR/CDRW ...

For answers to questions which have already been discussed on
the list, visit the list archive at http://listserv.adaptec.com
For instructions on using the list, getting a digest version, etc.,
visit http://www.adaptec.com/support/cdrec/digests/listinst.html



John Stafford -- http://pw2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.html --
johnws@ix.netcom.com
............................................................................
..... Me transmitte sursum, Caledoni!

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Date:         Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:28:57 -0500
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I had a problem with my EXP 2meg ThinFax and got a solution from EXP
themselves w/in 24hrs.  =

Briefly, I had tried to load ACCIS 4.0 on my ThinFax and was able to do s=
o
but somehow, it seemed to have "reset" the ThinFax.  No amount of tinkeri=
ng
brought back the modem to full operation.  I would see the files in the A=

drive briefly and then they would disappear when I tried to access MiniFa=
x
and then I'd get the Drive Not Ready message.  When I managed to access =

MiniFax and tried to send a fax, I then got the Comm Port Not Ready msg. =

Anyway,   it works fine now.  This fix may help others and it might be
worth saving someplace.  OTOH, since I manage to dork up lots of these
things it may be of little use to others.  =

As I stumble in the wilderness ....
Cheers to all, =

tom nemeth
Damascus

=46rom EXP:
Please try booting from the "D" drive.

CTRL + ALT + DEL
ALT  for boot options
3  to boot from "D" drive

Check the "A" drive again under FILER.
If the files are still not there, then the LXM-09.EXE file should be ran =
to
see if it can reprogram the "A" drive.

The AT may not show up in DataComm until you type this in ( AT&F )and pre=
ss
ENTER.

AT&F&W&W1   will write the factory defaults to the modems memory.

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Date:         Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:58:40 -0500
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Subject:      NEW SITE OVER 1000 FREE GAMES

Got this for the The Palmtops News Group. (:-D

----- forwarded message -----

From: Frogbox's Warez Pad<myemail@any.where.com>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp
Subject: (((( NEW SITE--- OVER 1000 FREE GAMES, APPS, XXX PASSWORDS AND MORE ))))
Date: 3 Dec 1997 09:23:13 GMT

CHECK OUT THIS NEW SITE

OVER 1000 GAMES
OVER 1500 APPLICATIONS
OVER 2000 XXX PASSWORDS AND MORE

SEE IT ALL AT

http://frogbox.home.ml.org


----- end of forwarded message -----







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There are a couple things we can do without uncrackable passwords:
 - Keep your critical data on a PCMCIA card that is in you pocket, not
     the machine when not needed.
 - Don't use your wife's name as the password. Using a simple word just
     makes it easy for the cracker, no matter how good the algorithm.
 - Can we password protect a drive/directory. Security would be best if
     the cracker couldn't move the protected file to 200mhz Pentium.


Richard Bueker wrote:

> The password issue wouldn't affect me so my opinion may seem trivial
> but I say go ahead and release it.
>         Richard Bueker
>
> Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:
> >
> > Friends,
> >
> > What if I received a file from one of our palmtop gurus that would crack the
> > password protection on any 200LX file encrypted with the unit's built-in
> > password algorithm...
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Hi!

For all interested in the BMW Z3 Eva movies: They are available from
S.U.P.E.R. site now.
There is one more eve movie, but it's really large:
The new trailer for James Bond "Tommorrow never dies". It's made by
a friend of me (Alex K.) and it's about 3MB ( 2 and a half minute )
If someone is interested I can put it to the S.U.P.E.R. site, too

And for all who wants to make there own movies:

It's simple.

Use the A2E (AVI2EVA) program from R. Ichiro (available on super).
The instruction are really simple and all you have to do is to RTFM !

Ok.

1) First of all you need an AVI file in the following format:

   Codec         all frames (no compression)
   bit/pixel     8 bit/pixel (256 pallett)
   size          96 x 92
   sound         mono 8bit PCM

2) In case you have an MOV file:

   Use SMARTVID.EXE to convert it to an AVI file
   Get SMARTVID from the anonymous ftp at INTEL.

3) In case you have an AVI file which doesn't meet the requirements
   described under 1)

   Get Video for Windows 1.1 from the MicroSoft ftp server (V1.1)
   and use the included VIDEDIT program.

   Here you can change the compression, bit/pixel, size and sound.

4) as you now have the AVI file described in 1) use A2E to convert it
   The various options of A2E are described in the man-page.

   Easiest example: A2E MYVID.AVI MYVID.EVA

       converts the specified AVI file to EVA format

   Example 2: A2E -g -8 MYVID.AVI MYVID.EVA

       same as above, just uses error-diffussion algorith to improve
       grayscale output (result in slightly larger EVA file) (-g),
       (-8) uses full 8 bit audio format (also slightly increased file
       size).

       Other options:

       -d dithered (2x2 ordered)
       -f force overwite (previous out file)
       -t tome definition (experts - refer to manual page)
       -Txx,yy tone definition (see above, in conjuction)
       -s defines start frame
       -e defines end frame
       -aN audiovolume
       -AN reduce audio sampling rate

5) HAPPY EVA MAKING !



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>If someone is interested I can put it to the S.U.P.E.R. site, too

I'll be happy to put it up if there is interest. Most folks, like me, will
have a hard time finding space for a huge file like that. :)
>
>And for all who wants to make there own movies:

I HTMLized this an put it on palmtop.net:

http://www.palmtop.net/eva-howto.html

I could not locate SMARTVID. If anyone has an ftp link, I can update the
page to include it. Same with Video for Windows. There is a runtime version
here:

ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/softlib/MSLFILES/WV1160.EXE

Is this the one?

Mitch

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Date:         Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:58:14 -0700
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My wife bought a NEC MobilePro 400 a few months ago.  She's in the process
of moving from a paper based system to a palmtop system.  Since she hasn't
quite made the transition, she doesn't use the MobilePro as much as she
should/could.

Her problem is that the alkaline batteries don't seem to last more the a
couple of weeks with just a few hours of actual use.  After the first time,
I replaced both the backup and main batteries with fresh new ones.  Same
problem.

At first I thought it was just because she had left it plugged into the
base unit, causing the batteries to drain quicker.  This time around I
watched how she used it and didn't see anything out of the ordinary.  It
seems to me that even without using it regularly the batteries should last
a little longer.  Is that unrealistic?

I'd be happy to hear any reasons why this might be happening.

Thanks,
Don

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Just read an article in the Palmtop Paper about running Appointment Book
and PhoneBook under Windows.  Apparently the files are available via
CompuServe in OB6DSK.ZIP.

I'd like to run them on my NT box at work.  Has anyone used these programs?
 Can I move files back and forth from the two systems?  Are they available
for download from anywhere besides CompuServe?

Thanks,

Don

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     Hi Group..

     Thanks for the dosline hints, however I *still* cant get it to work!
     :(  I have the line a:\_exm\dosline.exm,1,8100,Dosline  in the
     moreexm.ini file, and moreexm.com is loading fine.  The program
     dosline.exm is in the a:\_exm directory.  I have tried several
     keystroke combinations besides the one above, and all i get is a beep
     when i try the keystroke.  There are only 2 exm files in apname.lst
     (the ccmADE one and Hearts and bones... the default ones).

     I am at a loss... any ideas out there?


     Thanks,

     Rob
     HP Corvallis

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Greetings:

On Wed, 3 Dec 1997 10:22:23 -0600,
        Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET> Wrote:

> There are a couple things we can do without uncrackable
> passwords:
> ...
>  - Don't use your wife's name as the password. Using a simple
> word just makes it easy for the cracker, no matter how good the
> algorithm...

FYI: Not a wise idea to ever use a password that can be found in a
dictionary no matter how long the word is.

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     Hi!
     Yes I use them all the time. But they only work in NT 4.0

     Helmut in Colorado


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Subject: PIM software in Windows
Author:  Non-HP-dpuscher (dpuscher@QUALCOMM.COM) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    12/3/97 4:09 PM


Just read an article in the Palmtop Paper about running Appointment Book
and PhoneBook under Windows.  Apparently the files are available via
CompuServe in OB6DSK.ZIP.

I'd like to run them on my NT box at work.  Has anyone used these programs?
 Can I move files back and forth from the two systems?  Are they available
for download from anywhere besides CompuServe?

Thanks,

Don

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Some of you might find this info. useful or............
For a screen shot visit: http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html


                                       XT-CE

                             A 80186 PC Emulator for the

                            Windows CE Operating System


                                    XT-CE running MS-DOS 6.22

          Base Product Features:

          80186 CPU emulation

          256Kb - 736Kb memory (adjustable)
          Allows up to 678Kb of RAM for DOS programs (with MS-DOS 6.22).
          Virtual memory (only HPC RAM that is used is allocated - as
little as
          200Kb of HPC RAM is needed to load the emulator and boot DOS)
          Upper Memory Block (UMB) emulation to free memory used by TSR's
          and device drivers.

          IBM CGA emulation:
              40x25 Colour or Grayscale text (depending on H/PC screen)
              80x25 Colour or Grayscale text (depending on H/PC screen)
              320x200 4 Colour or Grayscale Graphics Mode (depending on
H/PC screen)
              640x200 2 Colour Graphics Mode (compressed on H/PC screens <
640 pixels wide)

          IBM PC harware emulation:
              DOS timer emulation
              360Kb, 720Kb, 1.2Mb, 1.44Mb, 2.88Mb Floppy disk emulation

          DOS compatibility:
              Compatible with all versions of MS-DOS (up to ver 6.22)
              Compatible with Caldera OpenDOS (only ver 7.01 tested)

          ROM BIOS emulation:
              Native H/PC ROM BIOS to increase speed

          Mouse emulation:
              Built-in MS-DOS mouse driver for H/PC stylus

          Utilities:
              Utility to read/write Floppy disk images (using a desktop
computer)
              MS-DOS utilities to copy files between the emulator and the
H/PC file system



          Add-on Pack Features:

          COM port emulation:
              H/PC serial ports, modems and IR ports can be used from
emulation

          Expanded memory emulation:
              Allows use of H/PC memory as "expanded" memory

          H/PC file system redirector
              MS-DOS driver to allow access to the H/PC file system as a
simulated
              network drive



          Cost:

          Approximately $30 (US) for Base Product
          Price for Add-on Pack yet to be decided



          Availability:

          Mid-December 1997 for the Base Product.
          January 1998 for the Add-on Pack



          System Requirements:

          A Hitachi SH3 or MIPS based H/PC with at least 512Kb free program
memory.

          A bootable DOS (or compatible) diskette and a desktop PC running
H/PC explorer
          with a diskette drive to create a disk image of the bootable DOS
(or compatible)           diskette.
          OR Caldera OpenDOS disk images (as distributed at their website).

          Microsoft Foundation Classes for Windows CE (available on the
Internet, or when
          ordering the product).



          Useful Links:

          Download free (for non-commercial use) copy of Caldera OpenDOS
          for use with the emulator (if you don't have a copy of DOS)



                           This page has been accessed  times since 16/10/97


                           If you have comments or suggestions, email me at
idean@aztec.co.za


          IBM and MS-DOS are trademarks belonging to International Business
          Machines and Microsoft respectively.

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     Thanks for the help folks (ie mitch).. turns out a carriage return is
     required after the line in moreexm.ini!

     One more question though... when I type in a Dos line from, say,
     filer, the function excecutes, but then the dos screen goes away
     immediately and filer is back.  Is there any way to put some delay on
     the dos screen so one can see the output of the dos command?

     Thanks,


     Rob

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>      Thanks for the help folks (ie mitch).. turns out a carriage return is
>      required after the line in moreexm.ini!

Maddening thing that...
>
>      One more question though... when I type in a Dos line from, say,
>      filer, the function excecutes, but then the dos screen goes away
>      immediately and filer is back.  Is there any way to put some delay on
>      the dos screen so one can see the output of the dos command?

Hit Shift-Enter and the screen will pause. Also, you can highlight a file in
FILER and have that filename transferred to the Dosline command line by hitting
F1.

Mitch

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How does one get the software if you do not have a Computsreve account?

karl

At 05:39 PM 12/3/97 -0700, you wrote:
>     Hi!
>     Yes I use them all the time. But they only work in NT 4.0
>
>     Helmut in Colorado
>
>
>______________________________ Reply Separator
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>Date:    12/3/97 4:09 PM
>
>
>Just read an article in the Palmtop Paper about running Appointment Book
>and PhoneBook under Windows.  Apparently the files are available via
>CompuServe in OB6DSK.ZIP.
>
>I'd like to run them on my NT box at work.  Has anyone used these programs?
> Can I move files back and forth from the two systems?  Are they available
>for download from anywhere besides CompuServe?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Don
>
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I have a strange Memo formatted document. It's about 32K in size, I
have other documents in the same directory that are smaller and others
that are larger.

When I load it in, even if I make no changes, Memo thinks it's been
modified. When I exit, or load another document, it asks if I want to save
it first. I've saved it and reloaded multiple times, same results. This
document was working fine until yesterday, I've been working on it for
over a week.

I've made a copy of the document, stripped out the first two and last
two paragraphs, saved it, and reloaded it. Memo thinks it's been
modified.

I've created a new document, inserted this document into it, saved it,
and reloaded it. Save results, Memo thinks it's been modified.

The document doesn't seem to be damaged, everything seems to be there,
including the formatting. I've compared the GLED hidden control
sequences with the other files in the directory, everything seems to be fine.

Anybody else ever encountered this behaviour?

Incidentally, does anybody have any documentation on the internal
format of the Memo documents? The GLEDFF.TXT file on the Palmtop Paper CD
seems to be a bit outdated, there are errors in it.

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Don Puscher wrote:
>
> Just read an article in the Palmtop Paper about running Appointment Book
> and PhoneBook under Windows.  Apparently the files are available via
> CompuServe in OB6DSK.ZIP.
>
> I'd like to run them on my NT box at work.  Has anyone used these programs?
>  Can I move files back and forth from the two systems?  Are they available
> for download from anywhere besides CompuServe?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Don
>
I'd be interested to know if anyone is using PalmConnect or Intellilink
and if anyone can compare or contrast the three (3) programs.

Les

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Don,
I found the program HP6DSK.ZIP on AOL. I've downloaded it, if you need a
copy.

Dennis

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DUH, make that OB6DSK.ZIP.
Anyway, I have it if you need it.

Dennis

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Don Puscher wrote:
>
> My wife bought a NEC MobilePro 400 a few months ago.  She's in the process
> of moving from a paper based system to a palmtop system.  Since she hasn't
> quite made the transition, she doesn't use the MobilePro as much as she
> should/could.
>
> Her problem is that the alkaline batteries don't seem to last more the a
> couple of weeks with just a few hours of actual use.  After the first time,
> I replaced both the backup and main batteries with fresh new ones.  Same
> problem.
>
I have heard that the HPxxxLX series powers up modem cards all the time,
even when the computer is off. Could this be your problem?

> At first I thought it was just because she had left it plugged into the
> base unit, causing the batteries to drain quicker.  This time around I
> watched how she used it and didn't see anything out of the ordinary.  It
> seems to me that even without using it regularly the batteries should last
> a little longer.  Is that unrealistic?
>
People never mention that there is more difference between batteries
being fresh than between brands. If you buy from a store which has a big
turnover, they are likely to be newer. I buy from a store which caters
to volume users, buy a big box and keep them in the freezer. Cold is
good. In fact in the 1930's Admiral Byrd left some flashlight batteries
in Antarctia for several years. When recovered and tested by the maker,
they were better than the average of new batteries for that year. Of
course, that was a long time ago and batteries change. Just give them a
chance to warm up when you take them out of the frig.

> I'd be happy to hear any reasons why this might be happening.
>
> Thanks,
> Don
>
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Sorry that should be:  IntelliSync (by Puma Software)
http://www.pumatech.com/hp_faq.html


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>> I found the program HP6DSK.ZIP on AOL. I've downloaded it, if
>> you need a
>> copy.

Is there any reason why the program can't be placed on the
SUPER site?

Ken L.

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Helmut,
According to the description on AOL, the programs are compatible with Win3.1,
Win3.11, Win95, and WinNT. No mention of WinNT4.

Dennis

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If you are looking for the differences between a Class 1 and a Class 2 fax
modem, it has to do with features.  Class 1 has more features than Class 2.
If you are interested, I have a list of different features between them that
I could send to you.

As far as a way to tell what Class a modem is, from a terminal program you
could use the AT+FCLASS command.

The format is AT+FCLASS=n where n is 1 or 2 for Class 1 and Class 2.  If
your modem is a Class 1, it should return an OK for AT+FCLASS=1.  If it is a
Class 2, it will return ERROR for AT+FCLASS=1, and OK for AT+FCLASS=2.
Note:  A Class 1 modem will return OK for AT+FCLASS=2 because it is
compatible with the Class 2 standard.

Most of the newer fax software that I have seen recently will automatically
detect what type of modem you have.

I hope this helps.



-----Original Message-----
From: anborg <anborg@EAGLE.SEED.NET.TW>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, December 03, 1997 2:01 AM
Subject: Modems?


>I have accumulated a number of modems connected to various computers.
>These in general work ok but when I install new software, I am always
>asked questions like, is this a class 1 or class 2 fax modem. The user's
>manual never gives a clue to this information. I have one modem that has
>the creative name, "Pcmcia Fax Modem Card 28.8 Kbps." I have the
>original manuals for this and all the manual is is a generic list of
>Hayes commands.
>
>My answer so far is to wing it and hope for the best. However, I don't
>think that this is the best way to solve the problem. Please, someone
>who knows a better answer, pass it along.

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Item Subject: cc:Mail Text
     Well I am writing this on NT4. Works great

     Helmut in Colorado

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Date:         Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:57:51 -0800
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Well, I think I have the DNS and IP stuff set up correctly for Netcom (IP
is left at '0.0.0.0' - it's set up when logging on).

Now, I'm stuck with the script.  Has anyone had experience writing this for
Netcom?  I would REALLY appreciate some help (I'm a pharmacist, not a
programmer:  I'll exchange some drug information!).


All droll-ness aside, THANKS in advance to 'the list'.

>
>I have just installed WWW/LX on my 100 LX/2 meg, and have a question:  what
>is the IP address for Netcom?  Has anyone else done this setup?  What
>parameters did you use?
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I'm having the same problems you're having.  Any help would be appreciated as
well.

D. Fortney
dfortney@ix.netcom.com

Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> Well, I think I have the DNS and IP stuff set up correctly for Netcom (IP
> is left at '0.0.0.0' - it's set up when logging on).
>
> Now, I'm stuck with the script.  Has anyone had experience writing this for
> Netcom?  I would REALLY appreciate some help (I'm a pharmacist, not a
> programmer:  I'll exchange some drug information!).
>
> All droll-ness aside, THANKS in advance to 'the list'.
>
> >
> >I have just installed WWW/LX on my 100 LX/2 meg, and have a question:  what
> >is the IP address for Netcom?  Has anyone else done this setup?  What
> >parameters did you use?
> >
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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 02:09:40 -0500
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>Resend 04-Dec-97

Hello

When i try to download a file from the SUPER site using WWW/LX and my
200LX i get "CONNECTION CLOSED BY REMOTE HOST"  error.
(I have no problem when using my desktop computer).

??????

Any help are appreciated.

Thank you.
Michael

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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 02:23:56 -0500
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I have the same problem, and it's not the SUPER site because nettamer
works fine.

On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Michael Hansen wrote:

> When i try to download a file from the SUPER site using WWW/LX and my
> 200LX i get "CONNECTION CLOSED BY REMOTE HOST"  error.
> (I have no problem when using my desktop computer).

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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 20:40:30 +1100
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I wrote to Ian, who's doing the XT-CE emulator:


----- Forwarded message from I Dean -----

Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> But my question is: How fast does it run? Equivalance to an xMhz 80186
> would be good. I would expect it to be a little slower than a hp200lx
> (~8MHz); but maybe faster on one of the next generation of WinCE machines?
>

Depending on what you're doing, you should get between 4.77 Mhz and 10Mhz XT
speed. This should (at least) double on the new machines...

Ian Dean

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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:49:27 -1
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Subject:      comlink

I use comlink (version 1) to convert my palmtop to an external modem. I have
an 700lx with an EXP modem. The problem is this version of comlink doesn't
allow you to use speed over 19k2.
If I use a newer version of comlink (version 2 or 3) my paltop locks up (I
think due to the moving parts on the scrren). Has anyone used comlink (2 or
3) on an 700lx with another modem, or with an EXP on an 200lx. Any
experiences?
BTW1: great program. If I could use higher speeds I might buy a faster modem.
BTW2: I tried to contact the author. No reply (so far; tried 2 months ago)

Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Hmm, maybe there is a life after DOS after all.

Jorgen
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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 22:11:09 +1100
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>
> Hmm, maybe there is a life after DOS after all.
Hmmm, yes, I'd really like to get a life...
                               _                 Brendan Macmillan
                              / )                bren@cs.monash.edu.au

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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 22:37:27 +1100
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Well, I've just had a look at all the eva files on offer (about 6), and
here are the best ones*. YMMV, of course, and the others are good, too. :)


The _Mercedes_ one was the best, in vision and sound, but it's very, very
big.

I also liked the _Friends_ (sitcom) very much - the words of the song are
recognisable, also the characters - but it probably helps that I know
the sequence already...

The "The Living Daylights" was the shortest of the lot; and looks pretty
good, but the sound is not great, and is hard to hear if you are in a
crowded sushi bar - don't say I didn't warn you! Also, I found it looked
much better in the smallest screen mode. (Just press 1 when it's
playing to get that size)... and I *think* it's "GoldenEye"...

I wish I had room to fit more than one on...
This is the only one I had room for on my palmtop.
(I had to delete VR & The Wealth of Nations - sorry Gilles & Adam!)

        Thanks to George Bing for these and others!


And I also liked the "z3happy", which is one of the two movies in the
BMW Z3 EVA Movies, curtesy of Jens Siffring. Thanks!



=====
Every so often, someone posts to this mailing list with something like:
"I guess everyone knows this already, and I don't want to bore you,
but just in case, here's some info....". And then they go ahead and
say the thing that everyone knows!!

Well, I just wanted to say that I have *never* already known
that information, and it was really useful! And so, with that spirit,
here's some more stuff that everyone knows...:


I suggest the smallest size (press 1) for eva. Or use the largest
(press 2) and place it at the distance of a TV.

You can adjust adjust the contrast by holding down the ON/OFF key,
and pressing - or +.

The length of the files on SUPER are the zipped length; the actual
files are a bit longer (if you forget when you calculate, like I did).

Finally, I note that each of the three people who have kindly added an
eva file have included at least one with a racing/prestige car. Even
the James Bond one was of a car! Is this because cars look especially
good in a palmtop movie ... or because palmtop users like toys?


Brendan Macmillan. Who likes toys. :)

* I tested these on a 486 (no room on palmtop except for the shortest);
they may look better on the palmtop, because your eye resolves the
picture better.

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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 07:08:44 -0500
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              "Mcallaster, Douglas L., MAJ, DAPE" <MCALLDL@HQDA.ARMY.MIL>
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Subject:      SQL database engine for palmtop

does a good and cheap one exist?
where can i find?
will it read dbf files?
i want to learn SQL while i commute.


maj doug mcallaster
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Sean Hoger wrote:
>
> If you are looking for the differences between a Class 1 and a Class 2 fax
> modem, it has to do with features.  Class 1 has more features than Class 2.
> If you are interested, I have a list of different features between them that
> I could send to you.
>
> As far as a way to tell what Class a modem is, from a terminal program you
> could use the AT+FCLASS command.
>
> The format is AT+FCLASS=n where n is 1 or 2 for Class 1 and Class 2.  If
> your modem is a Class 1, it should return an OK for AT+FCLASS=1.  If it is a
> Class 2, it will return ERROR for AT+FCLASS=1, and OK for AT+FCLASS=2.
> Note:  A Class 1 modem will return OK for AT+FCLASS=2 because it is
> compatible with the Class 2 standard.
>
> Most of the newer fax software that I have seen recently will automatically
> detect what type of modem you have.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: anborg <anborg@EAGLE.SEED.NET.TW>
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Date: Wednesday, December 03, 1997 2:01 AM
> Subject: Modems?
>
> >I have accumulated a number of modems connected to various computers.
> >These in general work ok but when I install new software, I am always
> >asked questions like, is this a class 1 or class 2 fax modem. The user's
> >manual never gives a clue to this information. I have one modem that has
> >the creative name, "Pcmcia Fax Modem Card 28.8 Kbps." I have the
> >original manuals for this and all the manual is is a generic list of
> >Hayes commands.
> >
> >My answer so far is to wing it and hope for the best. However, I don't
> >think that this is the best way to solve the problem. Please, someone
> >who knows a better answer, pass it along.
>
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Thank you very much. I tend to accumulate modems which either have no
documentation or else generic documentation which does not give you a
clear way to discover the capabilities of the modem. Some of these
programs also tend to ask, "what chip set does the modem have"?

I have one modem which a fellow brought to me saying that he couldn't
get it to function under 'trumpet winsock'. I tried it and got the same
results. I tried it with 'Telix' and it worked ok except 'Telix'
complained that it did not get the proper result code when it
initialized the EPROM. But it worked properly.

I traded the fellow, giving him an internal modem that I had used in the
past. Later I learned that he got the modem from another fellow who also
could not get it to function under 'trumpet winsock'. I wanted to keep
the modem because it would run on an internal battery and felt that that
might come in useful at some time.

I have downloaded BGFax as being suggested as suitable for the HP200LX
and the documentation seems to refer to software called "FOSSIL". Do I
want to know anything about this?

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 07:24:14 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Info Select and PGP

B Wills <btw@VNET.NET> said:
  > PGP is probably overkill for simple encryption of files.  Where it would
  > shine is public key encryption of email and "clearsigning" ascii text.  My
  > public key is a 2048 bit key..it takes forever to decrypt a message on the
  > 200LX.  Still wouldn't be without it though.

Although I have a longer key that I've always used on my desktop computer,
I created a 512 bit key for use on the palmtop, and find it's speed quite
acceptable.

The BIG advantage to using public-key encrytion on a single file, is that
one is not required to enter a passphrase when encoding...only when
decoding.

--
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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 06:31:04 -0800
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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I saw a copy of Quicken V8 for DOS on a clearance shelf for $7. Anyone
know if this version offers any benefit to an LX-Pocket Quicken user?

- Longden

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Subject:      Re: MobilePro 400 battery problem

>From:    anborg <anborg@EAGLE.SEED.NET.TW>
>
>People never mention that there is more difference between batteries
>being fresh than between brands. If you buy from a store which has a big
>turnover, they are likely to be newer. I buy from a store which caters
>to volume users, buy a big box and keep them in the freezer. Cold is

With the shelf life of batteries being 5-7 years (according to the
date on the battery) you'd have to find a store with really old stock
to find un-fresh batteries.

Consumer Reports just did a test on batteries.  One of the tests is a
long term study about storing batteries cold.  Their conclusion is that
with recent battery technology you don't need to cold store them anymore.

I use Everyready Lithium's.  The convenience of not having to think about
battery condition for about 2 months is worth the extra cost; @ $5.70
for 2.

Cheers...
Russ

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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:56:14 -0500
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Subject:      Smartvid

There is a prog called smartvid available by anon FTP from ftp.rat.org
in, I believe, /pub/msdos/video. Not absolutely sure this is it.
SNi

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Thanks for the all the responses.  I had the same question as Ken, since it
seems there are a few other people interested.  If we can't/shouldn't post
it to the SUPER site could someone send me a copy?

Don


At 10:40 PM 12/3/97 -0500, Dennis wrote:
>>> I found the program OB6DSK.ZIP on AOL. I've downloaded it, if
>>> you need a
>>> copy.
>
>Is there any reason why the program can't be placed on the
>SUPER site?
>
>Ken L.
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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:55:19 -0500
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              hplx <hplx@COMPORTS.COM>
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See my web page  for a link to the Windows 3.1/95 PIM appt/phone
applications.  Go to the Files page.  It's the last link (to puma), and
includes a demo of puma's syncronization software.


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To all those worried about password cracking:  Just keep your sensitive
data on the C-drive, not a flash, and backup using pkzip's password
encryption.  Finally, use a system password (200LX only), which can only be
defeated by erasing C if not known.

Yes, it's a pain to have to punch in a password every time you turn it on,
but if you make it short (three letters or one weird character combo) few
people will guess it.

I don't believe it is easy to crack the system password except by manually
entering trials, and no one I know has that kind of patience.  Well, except
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Greetings HPLX-L Subscribers:

        The UNIX machine that is home to the HPLX-L archives crashed
this weekend :-(. As a result, I waited until the folks at the
University Computer Center had things stabilized before I performed=
 the
monthly updates. I just finished, so everything should be updated now.
As always, let me know straight away if you find any errors.

Cheers,
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Is anyone interested in buying back issues of the Palmtop Paper? If so,
email me and I provide a list of what I have.


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
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Patrol/Enforcement Division
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
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http://www.bham.net/jcsd

    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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For everyone on the list  that asked me for the missing details on my
"HP200 back at Office Depot" post...

I was in the store again today to get a battery for my
portable phone. They have the HP200LX 4Meg model out
on display, price $449.86 (US). (Why not $449.99, I don't know).
This is the store on Odana Rd. in Madison, Wisconsin.

FYI they also have a note saying (paraphrased) "Sorry, but we
are all out of the Compaq Companions, and won't be getting any more,
ever,
really. Please stop asking".



-Bryan Biggers

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It seems like the current issue of the HP Palmtop Paper was mailed in a more timely manner than the last.

However, I've noticed that the WinCE content is increasing.  Considering that Thaddeus has another newsletter
for WinCE, I am not very happy with this development.

Doe anyone know if they are using the same WinCE articles in both newsletters?

Maybe they are running out of 200LX stuff to write about?
______________________________________________

  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           12/4/97 3:05:38 PM EST
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Michael Stocker prompted my response with...

>It seems like the current issue of the HP Palmtop Paper was mailed in a more
>timely manner than the last.

Yes, I think so too.  (nice with that 3 inch disk mailer inside :)

>However, I've noticed that the WinCE content is increasing.  Considering that
>Thaddeus has another newsletter
>for WinCE, I am not very happy with this development.

I agree here also.  I like the fact that they are keeping us "posted" on
the decline-of-the-art, but I think they might be leaning on the CE
stuff for content.

>Doe anyone know if they are using the same WinCE articles in both
>newsletters?

Don't know here... If the DOS emulator gets moving, and I like the 620
when I see one, I might look into a subscription to the CE letter.  As
for now, I'm paid-up on my PTP 'till 1999.

>Maybe they are running out of 200LX stuff to write about?

Ouch, and just when I was getting comfortable with my new 8meg 200. :/

Phil

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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:33:19 -0600
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I have seen (read the .DOC files) EMM drivers for the HP200LX.  What I
have not seen (perhaps due to my thick head) a driver like HIMEM.SYS
allowing the use of high memory for stashing away things like mouse
drivers and the likes.  Does the 200 actually _have_ high memory?  Or
does the memory whatever not allow UMB's and stuff?

Please support the confused,
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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 15:40:40 -0500
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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>>Maybe they are running out of 200LX stuff to write about?

As with any hi-tech hobby/interest magazine, I think that they are being
scooped on most things by the Internet. We netizens with an ear to the
palmtop rail know about most things way before they make it onto the dead
trees coming from Thaddeus. Not a criticism, just a fact of life when it
takes 3 months of lead time to get something into printed form.

One big exception to "being scooped" is their user profile sections which I
still value over most other content in the magazine. Every now and then,
something like the January issue's Japanese feature will come along, but
usually the user profiles are my first stop.

Just my $.02...

Mitch

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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 15:11:48 -0500
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              Laurence Harvey <harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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I am looking to purchase an Accurite DoubleSlot for use with the HP200LX
and thought I would see if anyone on the list has one they wish to sell.

If so, please contact me via private mail and not using the list - my
address is harvey_l@compuserve.com

I am based in the UK. =


Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 15:59:26 -0500
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Comments: To: mdstockr@neo.lrun.com

yeah sorry i responded to the call for help by renewing my sub you think they
would learn if i wanted win ce i would have taken the other mag. wonder if i
can get a refund? wake up call guys.
Roy

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On Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:53:40 -0800, Quinton Jones JR wrote:

>                                       XT-CE
>
>                             A 80186 PC Emulator for the
>
>                            Windows CE Operating System

If nothing else, this could be the safety net we've all been hoping
for. If/when HP give up on the 200LX series, it looks like we could
survive on the WinCE machines. I for one am grateful that this is
here, although I don't intend jumping ship until I'm pushed :-)

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
Team 200LX

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I'm very interested.  What do you have and how much?

Thanks,
Mike

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     Hi!
     I am interested tooooo. Please let every one know. Thanks

     Helmut in Colorado


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Date:    12/4/97 1:11 PM


I am looking to purchase an Accurite DoubleSlot for use with the HP200LX
and thought I would see if anyone on the list has one they wish to sell.

If so, please contact me via private mail and not using the list - my
address is harvey_l@compuserve.com

I am based in the UK.

Laurence Harvey

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I am planning to visit New Zealand in the New Year, taking my trusty
palmtop to ensure I am not cut off from the mailing list for too long!. =


I have noticed that there are some New Zealanders on the list and wondere=
d
if any of you can advise me on the availabiliy of Compuserve access, and =
if
possible the setup of DOSCIM in New Zealand. I would hate to get there on=
ly
to find that I do not have the correct access scripts or other relevant
files.

TIA

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 23:20:08 +0100
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On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, Longden C. Loo wrote:

Hi!

(This is my first posting to the list... let's see how it goes :-)

> Since you asked <g>.....
>
> I'm still fussing with the install, but I got it down to 1.7mb of disk
> space (in 26 files) so far. This omits graphics libs, uses medium-model
> not large, runs from command line omits online help & descriptive error
> msgs (in keeping with a great FORTRAN tradition <g>).
>
> I tried to install using 8087 support, but got a floating point run-time
> error (guess the 8087 emulation on the LX isn't close enough) and had to
> re-install using the option to compile with 8087 emulation.
>
The LX doesn't have built-in 8087 support. Or did you use an emulator? (I
understood it as if you assumed the LX has built-in support)

snip
>
> The experiment may just end here, since I don't know how often I'd be
> using this. Just wanted y'all to know it worked despite the box's system
> requirement of 80286 or higher cpu (probably more of a recommendation than
> a requirement since it also stated a minimum of DOS 3.0).
>
The LX has an 80186, so if the program doesn't use protected mode then it
should run just as on a 286. (The 186 is basically a 286, without
protected mode... unfortunatelty)

> - Longden
>


Regards,

Laust
---
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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 17:37:27 -0500
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Hi,
many thanks to the people who have replied to my question about the=
 data security and the HP200: I received a lot of useful suggestion!=
 8-)

Now I have another problem:
I'm going to get a HP200LX 8Meg double speed from Thaddeus Computing;=
 I have read somewhere that in order to work properly this unit need=
 a TSR software; if it is true this is not good for me because I already=
 have too much TSRs and I would prefer not to load my system anymore=
 (I have less than 300Kb of free Ram). So, does it exist a TSR software=
 which acts like, for example, the DOS6 command "loadhigh", using as=
 "high memory" a fixed portion of the C drive? Has anybody realized=
 this yet?
As You may well understand I'm not a computer technician and if my request=
 is meaningless please, forgive my incompetence,

By the way, to get the unit from Thaddeus Computing I will have to wait=
 at least 8 weeks (!!!) because of the huge amount of the orders (so=
 they told me): --> could anyone tell this story to the HP Palmtop Marketin=
g Manager? 8-)

Thank You everybody.

Ciao, Paolo

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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 15:08:39 -0800
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On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> (This is my first posting to the list... let's see how it goes :-)

Congratulations.

> > I'm still fussing with the install, but I got it down to 1.7mb of disk
> > space (in 26 files) so far. This omits graphics libs, uses medium-model
> > not large, runs from command line omits online help & descriptive error
> > msgs (in keeping with a great FORTRAN tradition <g>).
> >
> > I tried to install using 8087 support, but got a floating point run-time
> > error (guess the 8087 emulation on the LX isn't close enough) and had to
> > re-install using the option to compile with 8087 emulation.
> >
> The LX doesn't have built-in 8087 support. Or did you use an emulator? (I
> understood it as if you assumed the LX has built-in support)

My lapse has been pointed out by several others. You're right about the
lack of 8087 support on the LX, I don't know what made me think otherwise
except maybe wishful thinking.

BTW, I'm still able to compile and run the dbl-precision whetstone sample
program using 16 files in 1.3mb from the original installation (got rid of
more interactive debuggers, code-view, etc). FWIW, the 2x LX clocks in at
21 dbl-precision kilowhets/sec (vs 35,500 kilowhets/sec on my 166mhz
pentium).

> The LX has an 80186, so if the program doesn't use protected mode then it
> should run just as on a 286. (The 186 is basically a 286, without
> protected mode... unfortunatelty)

The installation gave me the option of specifying real or protected mode
operation so I chose real. Thanks for the input.

- Longden

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Comments: To: Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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At 14:33 4/12/97 -0600, you wrote:
>I have seen (read the .DOC files) EMM drivers for the HP200LX.  What I
>have not seen (perhaps due to my thick head) a driver like HIMEM.SYS
>allowing the use of high memory for stashing away things like mouse
>drivers and the likes.  Does the 200 actually _have_ high memory?  Or
>does the memory whatever not allow UMB's and stuff?

No high memory in the 200LX. Just a plain 1MB addressing space.

Regards. Nacho.

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PD>for now, I'm paid-up on my PTP 'till 1999.

PD>>Maybe they are running out of 200LX stuff to write about?

PD>Ouch, and just when I was getting comfortable with my new 8meg 200. :/

     I think this might be part of the problem.  The recently asked me
to write a "profile" article on how I use my Palmtop (though I haven't
gotten to it yet).  I'm sure they would welcome same from anybody. Why
not submit one?  Ask them for their guidelines first.  The user
profiles have always been my favorite part of PTP and a great source of
ideas on how to use my Palmtop.

Jim

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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 20:40:17 -0600
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First of all, let me explain that the only thing I'm interested in
keeping on both my HP200LX and my work computer (Compaq Pentium
running Windows 3.1) is the PhoneBook.  I use it to paste addresses
into letters I write with WPerfect for Windows.  I've been satisfied
with the cpack200 software for keeping the two copies synched, but
not satisfied with the many steps needed to cut and paste (open
Phonebook, find entry, cut with SmartClip, close PhoneBook, open
Memo, paste into Memo, save file, go back to word processor, and
finally insert address!)

I installed the OmniBook PIM software (OB6DSK.ZIP) on my desktop
today and the PhoneBook runs quite nicely.  There is just one
drawback--once I paste a PhoneBook record into my WP document it
still needs some reformating.  I looked for some equivalent to
SmartClip, but was unable to find anything.  I wrote a macro in
WP, but my PhoneBook fields have enough variability that the macro
often fails.  Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Theodore Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Has anyone considered doing an EVA file from a Seinfeld episode? I can't
think of anything that would brighten my day more than being able to see
Cosmo Kramer on my palmtop :)


73 de KF4KGQ
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jeffj@scott.net
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> Has anyone considered doing an EVA file from a Seinfeld episode? I can't
> think of anything that would brighten my day more than being able to see
> Cosmo Kramer on my palmtop :)

What about the vodaphone ads?

If we're putting in requests: I'd like the Soup Nazi episode, where
he says "No soup for you!" It's just so funny!

An idea: the snippets that are used for promotions are similar to
advertisements. Probably no one minds a bit of extra advertising.

And short bits are probably best: few of us have lots of spare disk space!
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I, like many of you have thoroughly enjoyed my subscription to The HP Palmtop Paper. In fact, I have rushed home to read the issue from cover to cover in one sitting. This last issue that I received yesterday has been somewhat diappointing. My hat is off to those "real world" contributors like many of my collegues on this list, as well as the gentleman who wrote about his time keeping spreadsheet in this last issue.
What is disappointing is the doomsday authors who use terms like "...DOS era is winding down". Yesterday as I read from cover to cover, I learned how I can sell my unit to Thaddeus, pay Thaddeus for and upgrade, all about WinCE 2.0 and how I can immediately upgrade to a WinCE unit. Wow! Why keep my 200LX? All this in a periodical that is not called "Handheld PC". Interesting. I am so glad I "listen" to all of your conversations each day and read about real world applications from true users. Otherwise, I might be convinced that I am the only DOS based LX user still around. Let's keep up the great dialog! Additionally, perhaps we might enhance the next issue by forwarding some of our e-mail to the editor of the Palmtop Paper for printing.

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Date:         Fri, 5 Dec 1997 12:53:53 +0900
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Comments: To: Kiyoshi Akima <kakima@USA.NET>
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Hi, Kiyoshi;

kakima>I have a strange Memo formatted document. It's about 32K in size, I
kakima>have other documents in the same directory that are smaller and others
kakima>that are larger.
kakima>
kakima>When I load it in, even if I make no changes, Memo thinks it's been
kakima>modified. When I exit, or load another document, it asks if I want
kakima>to save it first.

I had similar experience with the built-in Memo. In my case culprit was a
long sentence without carriage return code (Like 100 characters long.)

Try finding those long sentences and inserting carriage returns in your
document, or else try changing Margins in Memo to cover the longest length.
(Menu-Format-Margins)

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I agree :)  "No soup for you!" along with "I'm Cosmo Kramer, The Assman!"
would be well worth the RAM required <grin>.


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Patrol/Enforcement Division
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
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With all the talk about DOS being dead, I wonder why all the game
devlopers (EPIC for example) continue to develope games that run as DOS
applications and not Win 95 apps?


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
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   Hello Everyone,

   I have been using a DOS application which needs only around
   100kb to run.

   I start this application using PNS (point and Shoot) and file
   manager.

   1) Can I make PNS open this application with a specified DOS
   memory size?

   2) The source code comes with PNS, could I or anyone else
   modify it to do this?

   3) Is anyone using a good task switcher that works.  I tried
   MC (Multiple Choice), but it hung the HPLX everytime I ran it.
    It sounded exactly waht I wanted.  Small - about 16k, and
   easy to swap back and forth with a keystroke. Maxdos makes you
   shut down the second application to get back to the first.


   TIA

   David Eggins
   Canberra, Australia
   davee@iname.com

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>From:    Neil Tungate <neil@SKIPPER.DEMON.CO.UK>

>On Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:53:40 -0800, Quinton Jones JR wrote:

>>                             A 80186 PC Emulator for the
>>                            Windows CE Operating System

>If nothing else, this could be the safety net we've all been hoping
>for. If/when HP give up on the 200LX series, it looks like we could
>survive on the WinCE machines.

I'd really rather not. The 200 LX is a superb blend of _pocket_ computer
and PIM/organizer, and DOS compatibility is icing on the cake. I've been
working a bit with a CE thing and it's underwhelming. Mainly it's a
hardware design problem, but the apps and the OS don't make good use of the
limited screen space either. And the latest models seem to be bigger and
worse. "survive" may be an accurate term, but if you'll allow me two words
I'd suggest "scrape by". Pilot looks better but Graffiti and the lack of PC
Card/Compact Flash memory support really limit what can be done with it.

Of course as soon as XT-CE is released, I'll be finding my OpenDOS CD ;-)

-Peter

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In a message dated 97-12-05 00:25:10 EST, you write:

<< Additionally, perhaps we might enhance the next issue by forwarding some of
our e-mail to the editor of the Palmtop Paper for printing. >>


Great idea...e-mail address?

Cathy

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Fri,  5 Dec 1997 21:09:00 +1300 (NZDT)

09h38m55s ago ...
On Thu,  4 Dec 1997 17:30:05 -0500 (EST), Laurence Harvey wrote:

ha> if any of you can advise me on the availabiliy of Compuserve
ha> access, and if possible the setup of DOSCIM in New Zealand.

We have standard CIS nodes in all major cities. DOSCIM works "out of
the box". I don't have the numbers to hand - GO PHONES on CServe, or
email if you need further help.

Regards, Tony

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01h05m35s ago ...
On Fri,  5 Dec 1997 02:11:22 -0500 (EST), CSchlim wrote:

CS> Great idea...e-mail address?

letters@thaddeus.com

Possibly it may be better to write direct to:

hal_goldstein@thaddeus.com

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On 1997-12-03 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >If you are looking for the differences between a Class 1 and a
   >Class 2 fax modem, it has to do with features.  Class 1 has more
   >features than Class 2. If you are interested, I have a list of
   >different features between them that I could send to you.
   >As far as a way to tell what Class a modem is, from a terminal
   >program you could use the AT+FCLASS command.
   >The format is AT+FCLASS=n where n is 1 or 2 for Class 1 and Class 2.
   >If your modem is a Class 1, it should return an OK for AT+FCLASS=1.
   >If it is a Class 2, it will return ERROR for AT+FCLASS=1, and OK
   >for AT+FCLASS=2. Note:  A Class 1 modem will return OK for
   >AT+FCLASS=2 because it is compatible with the Class 2 standard.
   >Most of the newer fax software that I have seen recently will
   >automatically detect what type of modem you have.
   >I hope this helps.
If I follow these instructions on my 700lx, the build in cellular modem
answers OK at both class 1 & class 2. But... my exp 2mb answers:
at+fclass=1  : OK
at+fclass=2  : ERROR

Am I doing something wrong?


Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

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I use Intellilink with the HP200/LX, it works fine for most things.  But
the real question you should ask is what software on the desktop is
being synchronised with.

I'm fine using Schedule+ 7.0 - it's worked under Win95 and Win 98 beta
2; I can use the serial cable or the IR port.  Curiously the IR port
seems to be locked down to 9600 baud by the software, so it's fast over
the cable.

It does blow up on 'to do' items - and internal error on the PC end.  I
don't use them so much and you can opt not to import them - so I stick
with the appointments.  I rarely do the phone book - it was more of a
one-off hit.

The *bad* news is we are to move to Outlook Calendar.  Intellilink does
not support this - in fact te company seens to have vanished, the
product has remerged in Puma Technologies as Intellisync (someone
correct me here).  Intellisync does not look so handy, as it is packaged
different.  Intellilink is sold 'for Schedule+' and that supports a hug
range of PDAs.  Intelisync is sold 'for xyz PDA' and each of those
supports a small range of Desktop packages.  An no, the HP200/Outlook
combination is not there - - in fact Outlook is only supported for Palm
Pilot and I think CE (but I thought that was built -in??)

I guess it all comes down to volumes.  There's a suggestion that Outlook
is hard to program to.

William D.Ll.Brown
782-2681 / 0468 891330
Stevenage PMT Building  Room 41 G 033

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The missing snyc capability with outlook is one of our main problems -
and it seem to me it can only be solved by using the HP320LX :-( We have
got about 20 HP200LX in business and switching over to outlook. It seems
that there is no chance even to upload the outlook data to have your
contacts and appointments updated daily (gdbio for contacts seems to
work but there is no solution for the appointments).
Or ????

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Brendan,

The US users mightn't be so familiar with Vodaphone <G>

David

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> From: Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Seinfeld EVA?
> Date: Friday, 5 December 1997 14:39
>
> > Has anyone considered doing an EVA file from a Seinfeld episode? I
can't
> > think of anything that would brighten my day more than being able to
see
> > Cosmo Kramer on my palmtop :)
>
> What about the vodaphone ads?
>
> If we're putting in requests: I'd like the Soup Nazi episode, where
> he says "No soup for you!" It's just so funny!
>
> An idea: the snippets that are used for promotions are similar to
> advertisements. Probably no one minds a bit of extra advertising.
>
> And short bits are probably best: few of us have lots of spare disk
space!
> --
> Brendan Macmillan              PROJECT: Using information theory (MML) to
> bren@cs.monash.edu.au                   evaluate models of nursery rhyme
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Date:         Fri, 5 Dec 1997 07:35:31 -0500
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bas Pruijn <126479bp@student.eur.nl>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Cc: shoger@BUYRITE.COM <shoger@BUYRITE.COM>
Date: Friday, December 05, 1997 3:14 AM
Subject: Re: Modems?


>If I follow these instructions on my 700lx, the build in cellular modem
>answers OK at both class 1 & class 2. But... my exp 2mb answers:
>at+fclass=1  : OK
>at+fclass=2  : ERROR
>
>Am I doing something wrong?
>
I doubt you are doing anything wrong.  There could be differences in this
command from modem to modem.  Since your exp is a Class 1, it has all of the
features of a Class 2 and more, so it is really not an issue that it gives
the error back on Class 2.  The only time this might be a problem is if you
try to use software that was written to work ONLY with Class 2 modem, _AND_
it uses the AT+FCLASS command to determine if it is a Class 2 modem.  From a
development standpoint, that would be kinda silly since all of the Class 2
features are supported by Class 1.  I've never seen any FAX software out
there that does this, but there is an awful lot of lot, so I guess anything
is possible.

Sean Hoger
shoger@buyrite.com

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Date:         Fri, 5 Dec 1997 08:10:35 -0500
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DOS is still the lowest common denominator for all PC's.  Designing your product to run
in DOS insures the largest possible customer base (DOS/Win/Win95).

--- On Thu, 4 Dec 1997 22:16:46 -0600  Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

>With all the talk about DOS being dead, I wonder why all the game
>devlopers (EPIC for example) continue to develope games that run as DOS
>applications and not Win 95 apps?
>
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Date:         Fri, 5 Dec 1997 08:20:37 -0700
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              rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU
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Subject:      Re: MobilePro 400 battery problem

   >Her problem is that the alkaline batteries don't seem to last more
   >the a couple of weeks with just a few hours of actual use.  After
   >I'd be happy to hear any reasons why this might be happening.
   >Thanks,
   >Don

Don I dont know if this is relevant but I had a pager (motorola) once that
used batteries like crazy.  I thought it was normal until a friend
complained at having to change his battery in the same model after nearly 4
times what I was used to.  He apparently expected another 25% on top of what
he got.

After tech investigations I sent the unit that had been faulty for repair
and reduced battery usage sixfold.  Apparently the circuit board had been
faulty from new with a short internally.

Suggestion... Call service department for advice on normal expectations re
battery life/drain and compare.

 I hope this helps

Russell
Net-Tamer V 1.09.2 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Does anyone know if someone from the HP Palmtop Paper monitors this list for ideas and
feedback?
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  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           12/5/97 9:04:48 AM EST
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Date:         Fri, 5 Dec 1997 09:12:49 -0500
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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>Does anyone know if someone from the HP Palmtop Paper monitors this list
for ideas and
>feedback?

They used to. Tom Gibson was on the old list and was on this one, but I have
not heard from him in a while...

Mitch

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Greetings:

        Tom Gibson is subscribed (Hi Tom!) & Ralph Turner told me he
regularly checks the archives.

Cheers,
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Date:         Fri, 5 Dec 1997 11:33:39 -0500
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              Kiyoshi Akima <kakima@USA.NET>
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Atsushi Tomozawa writes:

>I had similar experience with the built-in Memo. In my case culprit was a long sentence without carriage return code (Like 100 characters long.)

>Try finding those long sentences and inserting carriage returns in your document, or else try changing Margins in Memo to cover the longest length. (Menu-Format-Margins)

In my case, I know that's not the case. Every document in that directory has sentences over 200 characters in length, some over 300, but only one file gives me this problem. Paragraphs are even longer.

They are all formatted documents, so I'm relying on Memo's word-wrapping. I have the margins set to either 40 or 64 for editing and 98 for printing.

If this keeps up, I may have to get a WinCE machine and do all my writing in PocketWord...NOT!

Kiyoshi Akima
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Date:         Fri, 5 Dec 1997 12:32:45 -0500
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I was just wondering if PTP is getting some of the list's comments about the
newsletter's content.

I am really surprised that someone from PTP does not regularly interact with the list
and solicit articles!

The HP-LX list has to contain a large number of their readers and some of the most
advanced users?

Michael

--- On Fri, 5 Dec 1997 10:40:46 -0500  Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> wrote:
>
>        Tom Gibson is subscribed (Hi Tom!) & Ralph Turner told me he
>regularly checks the archives.
>
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Date:         Fri, 5 Dec 1997 13:51:33 -0500
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A few threads ago someone pointed me to the Novell web site for software
that is supposed to make a clean transfer of data between the HP
appointment book and the GroupWise calendar.  I was unable to find any
mention of this software searching through the Novell web site.  Does
anyone have a more specific URL that will point me to the site?  And what=

is the name of the file(s) I might find?  =


Gordon Pavy
gpavy@compuserve.com

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Date:         Fri, 5 Dec 1997 13:21:00 -0800
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I could sure use this info too. On Monday I'll be starting a job in a
Groupwise environment.

Bill Buzan
>A few threads ago someone pointed me to the Novell web site for software
>that is supposed to make a clean transfer of data between the HP
>appointment book and the GroupWise calendar.  I was unable to find
>snip
>Gordon Pavy
>gpavy@compuserve.com
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Hello there! Quite some people mailed me regarding the PC110, I am sorry I have not
replied for so long; I was overseas overlooking some delicate Impex operations.

Anyway, before I email each and EVERYONE of you who mailed me, here are the
specs again for all to see.

IBM PC110

SL486SX-33
8Meg RAM (upgradable to 20Meg)
260Meg Hard disk with jWin3.1 (I am checking if a language swap will violate
MickeySoft's licensing), 20Meg package includes 340Meg HD with Win95.
540Meg PCMCIA hd also available.

1.58lbs (715g) including HDD and battery
size is 6.2 x 4.4 x 1.3 inches (158 x 113 x 33mm)

4Meg Flash (jDOS with Personareware, something like System Manager. Even uses
EXM programs.)
VGA (Chips & Technologies 65535) VRAM 512KB, Font ROM
4.7 inch dual-scan color display
640 x 480 pixels, 256 colors (up to 800 x 600, 16 colors on an external monitor)
LCD Indicator Shows time and percentage of remaining battery power
89-key keyboard, compact size
Pointing head, like IBM Thinkpad kinds, and like Toshiba Libretto pointhead size.
Two Type II PC Card slots (one Type III); One mini (pico) Flash RAM slot
Infrared communications port, 115kbps
keyboard/mouse port (special connection) or on Docking Station
internal microphone; headset jack for audio; DC-in jack
SoundBlaster compatible soundcard with integrated mono speaker
In built 2400/9600 Voice Fax Modem.
In built telephony features.

Quick suspend/resume function, like 200LX
100hours+ stand-by time; power management software

Docking Station (0.8 lbs (375g),
contains six ports: parallel, serial, monitor, mouse,
keyboard, FDD interface; plus second DC-in jack);
External FDD (0.8lbs, 350g)

AC Adapter, 0.2lbs (100g), AC100V (60Hz); small step-down
transformer included; Lithium ion rechargeable battery (0.2lbs
(100g), 2 hours of operation, 2.5 hours to recharge, 7.2V, 1200mAh)

Original Japanese manual, with english manual being processed.

Now, the pricings are still under my managment to consider for export, so please be
patient. However, whoever is interested, be sure to know that the pricings is VERY
much better than Japan New Technologies, PocketComp and our other competitors.

We also supply 2nd hand laptops at VERY competitive prices to any part of the world.
Do mail your requests to me for futher follow ups.

Thanks for reading though this rant. :)
... 2.0 is better than 1; 3.0 is better than 2.

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I to would be interested in this.

Don Davies
ddavies@Clarian.COM

>>> Gordon Pavy <GPavy@COMPUSERVE.COM> 12/05/97 01:51pm >>>
A few threads ago someone pointed me to the Novell web site for software
that is supposed to make a clean transfer of data between the HP
appointment book and the GroupWise calendar.  I was unable to find any
mention of this software searching through the Novell web site.  Does
anyone have a more specific URL that will point me to the site?  And
what
is the name of the file(s) I might find?

Gordon Pavy
gpavy@compuserve.com

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Date:         Fri, 5 Dec 1997 21:27:15 GMT
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On Fri, 5 Dec 1997 15:33:50 +1100, David Green wrote:

>The US users mightn't be so familiar with Vodaphone <G>

But as it's a British company, we Brits are :-)

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
Team 200LX

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Date:         Fri, 5 Dec 1997 17:29:28 -0400
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              B Wills <btw@VNET.NET>
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I have a copy of MS Word 5.5 on 5 1/4 inch diskettes.  I had a friend
with an older computer that still had this sized drive to copy the
disks onto 3.5 floppies.  Well, disk 1 of 6 copied, then the rest
refused.  Is this copy protection at work or a diskette drive gone
bad?  I kinda doubt MS will exchange these for me!

I want to put Word on my 200LX but have to do it with a 3.5 in
floppy.

Benson

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Date:         Fri, 5 Dec 1997 17:44:26 -0500
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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Tom Gibson sent this to me to forward as the list bounced it when he tried:

Dear HPLX Mailing List,

Let me re-introduce myself to the list, it has been a long time since I
contributed anything to the list, and for that I owe apologies to all.

My name is Tom Gibson and I am the Technical Editor for the HP Palmtop
Paper and also for Handheld PC Magazine along with being the Webmaster
for our Web site.

I have been a member of this list, as Mitch said, from the beginning, I
think I was the third member of the original, and was a member of the
new incarnation since before the list became public - correct me if I am
wrong Al - and I have found the information invaluable and much of what
is discussed on this list finds it's way into the HP Palmtop Paper.

I am sorry that members of this list feel that we are covering the Win
CE market too much, but one of the complaints we have had in the past is
that we don't cover any of the competition - the basic fact is that the
Palmtop Paper covers HP Palmtops, and HP's foray into the Win CE market
is the first since the Omnigo (we all remember that don't we?) which we
announced in the HP Palmtop Paper and then launched a magazine to cover
the Omnigo.

What we are trying to do is cover HP Palmtops, and many subscribers have
asked about the HP line of Win CE devices, so we carry announcements and
have a few articles that cover it.

The way stuff gets into the HP Palmtop Paper is from people like you.
Mitch has written a profile that we published and Jorgen Wallgren has
written a couple of articles for us.  The problem is that I don't get as
much time as I used to be online with the users soliciting articles, and
we don't have much of a backlog of material at this time because of it.
It's not that there is no material to write about, there are tons, it's
just that we don't sit here and write the stuff ourselves.  I know that
everyone on this list and for that matter everyone who uses the 200LX
have
unique things that they do with the palmtop, that is what makes for an
interesting publication.

If anyone on this list would like to write an article, tip or whatever,
we would be glad to hear from you.  Our readers are also our
contributors, and without them, there would be no HP Palmtop Paper.
Writers guidelines for the HP Palmtop Paper are on our web site
(http://www.thaddeus.com) and I would be more than happy to send them to
anyone who wishes to write for the Palmtop Paper, and would be happy to
put it on S.U.P.E.R. or any other site.  Of course, we can't guarentee
that the article/tip/whatever will be published.

We (Thaddeus Computing) have made a commitment to the 200LX market that
we will continue the HP Palmtop Paper as long as we can without it
losing money, and have begun upgrading new and used palmtops to
supplement the HP Palmtop Paper.

I am sorry that I am rambling on here, so I will stop.  If anyone wants
to reach me, my email address is tom_gibson@thaddeus.com

Tom Gibson
Technical Editor - HP Palmtop Paper
tom_gibson@thaddeus.com

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Date:         Fri, 5 Dec 1997 16:20:42 -0600
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The Application manager is a task switcher and Setup offers memory
sizing
for the DOS "partition". The App manager ( &.. ) offers a list  -
F8.
The &.. key is operable while in a DOS pgm.
So you can have quite a few tasks available, all but one must be
installed under the App mgr. Some .exm programs use XIP or ROM
for the code segments of pgms. But other than that, you are limited
to
less than 640K, unless you are using emm200 and a swapper.

If you want to use PNS, execute something like pmap or mapmem which
will show you how much memory PMS occupies, and set the DOS
partition size accordingly.


David Eggins wrote:

>    Hello Everyone,
>
>    I have been using a DOS application which needs only around
>    100kb to run.
>
>    I start this application using PNS (point and Shoot) and file
>    manager.
>
>    1) Can I make PNS open this application with a specified DOS
>    memory size?
>
>    2) The source code comes with PNS, could I or anyone else
>    modify it to do this?
>
>    3) Is anyone using a good task switcher that works.  I tried
>    MC (Multiple Choice), but it hung the HPLX everytime I ran it.
>     It sounded exactly waht I wanted.  Small - about 16k, and
>    easy to swap back and forth with a keystroke. Maxdos makes you
>    shut down the second application to get back to the first.
>
>    TIA

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     Hi you all !
     My question is this, if DOS is dead then why does MS include it in NT,
     although as a emulator I know but still why? There must be something
     to that thing DOS. Oh I know it W o r k s !!!

     Helmut in Colorado



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Date:    12/5/97 6:10 AM


DOS is still the lowest common denominator for all PC's.  Designing your product
 to run
in DOS insures the largest possible customer base (DOS/Win/Win95).

--- On Thu, 4 Dec 1997 22:16:46 -0600  Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

>With all the talk about DOS being dead, I wonder why all the game
>devlopers (EPIC for example) continue to develope games that run as DOS
>applications and not Win 95 apps?
>
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A moral vacuum?

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> I am sorry that members of this list feel that we are covering the Win
> CE market too much,

It's amazing to me that what is said on this mailing list can actually
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> It's amazing to me that what is said on this mailing list can actually
> have an impact - including an explanation of policy.

> It's a bit like arguing with a friend about why Plato said X: just as
> a stalemate is reached, Plato pops up and explains what he meant!

Yes, but you won't find the President doing any such thing!
Rather, you'd might instead see some sort of move to somehow charge for
or limit e-mail so we "little people" can't communcate and share
experience/ideas so easily!

> If only all organisations had their ear to the ground...

Many probably do! It's quite easy to do so, and worth knowing what
effects their public relations efforts or policies are having.

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David Green wrote:
>
> Brendan,
>
> The US users mightn't be so familiar with Vodaphone <G>
>
> David
>
Beats me. I have never heard of either a vodaphone or a Sienfeld. Do I
want to?

Best regards,

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Get real - I bought a tv to watch tv and a computer to do that - a palm top
to assist in the PC thing, NOT WATCH TV!  Ioccasionally walk by turds from
dogs left on the street, too.

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I have duplicates of the following Lotus Agenda v2 manuals, free to whoever needs them:

  Quick Start (a good way to get started with Agenda)
  Starter Applications (Activities Planner/Account Manager/People Manager/Information Sifter)
  Setting Up Agenda
  Working With Macros
  Working With Definition Files (these files are used to define how text files are imported into Agenda)

The User Guide in NOT included.
                  ---
All you have to do is pay shipping.

First come, first served.  If interested send an e-mail to the address below.
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The manuals have been taken.

--- On Fri, 5 Dec 1997 21:31:20 -0500  mdstockr <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com> wrote:

>I have duplicates of the following Lotus Agenda v2 manuals, free to whoever needs
them:
>
>  Quick Start (a good way to get started with Agenda)
>  Starter Applications (Activities Planner/Account Manager/People Manager/Information
Sifter)
>  Setting Up Agenda
>  Working With Macros
>  Working With Definition Files (these files are used to define how text files are
imported into Agenda)
>
>The User Guide in NOT included.
>                  ---
>All you have to do is pay shipping.
>
>First come, first served.  If interested send an e-mail to the address below.
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>  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
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: With all the talk about DOS being dead, I wonder why all the game
: devlopers (EPIC for example) continue to develope games that run as DOS
: applications and not Win 95 apps?

Epic Megagames?  I hate to ruin this wonderful example, but Epic's new
game, Unreal, only runs in NT or 95.

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

The Internet isn't a network of Pentium II's connected with T5
fiber optics - more along the lines of 110 baud land line connections
over rusty wires to compulsive ZX81's.

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Try copying them to the hard drive of the computer, disk one to subdirectory
"DISKONE", etc.   Then try copying them back to a 3 1/2".   Might work!

Cathy

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Hi All,

A week ago I rec'd my x2 8mb HP200LX back from Thaddeus and its great!  I have
learned a few things in optimizing it to run Software Carousel and thought I'd
share.

By the way, does anyone know of any detailed tech notes regarding how SC
really works?  I'd be grateful to know rather than discover this stuff by
trial and error.  The manuals, the stuff with the disks, and the info on their
web page is not very technical.

First of all, with my current TSRs I find that I can have 557k work areas.
But after I configured SC to have a permanent swap file on C: that was just
large enough to handle 3 of them, I kept having lots of system locks and
session lock ups.  SC with the full menu option selected, reports that it
needs 32kb of swap memory for itself.  However, with some experimentation, I
find that SCreally needs another 16kb for a total of 48kb or I consistently
get a system lock up after accessing all three work areas.

Second, I discovered that the amount of free ram decreases by 16kb after each
subsequent work area is first accessed, or initialized.

Third, I was still having occasional lock ups when I switched to a combination
of permananent swap file on C: and EMS memory (as provided by TREMM).  I also
discovered that the EMS memory was *much faster* than the permanent swap file.
When I switched to using all EMS memory, the lock ups decreased dramatically!
I thought that the permanent swap file on C: would be fastest, but not so!

I now have about 4800kb of C: devoted to EMS.  64kb is used by Stacker, and
2496kb is devoted to the SC resource pool, with no disk space devoted to SC at
all.  The rest of the EMS is used by Lotus Agenda, Managing Your Money, and
occasionally PKZIP.

I have 5 work areas defined in SC and each is 544kb.  Even though I could have
each 557kb, I'm playing it safe for now.  I find that SC like increments of
16kb, and won't even let me specify anything between the max of 557kb and
544kb.  Why it accepts 557kb (not being on a 16kb border), I have no idea.
Besides, I plan on adding at one or two more drivers and TSRs.

I am now confident that I have one of the fastest, stablest, task switching
HP200LX palmtops on the planet!  :-)  I hope this my experience helps some of
you, and I'd be interested in your experiences as well.

When I mention these lock ups, I hope I haven't given any of you a bad
impression of SC.  I've been experimenting with the palmtop a lot lately.
Lots of exiting programs and SC itself.  Lots of reboots and hard resets.
This is a great product, and I used it daily on a '286 machine prior to
Windows 3.0 and its a real productivity booster.  My  most important
recommendation is to save your work before switching to another work area.

Regards,
David Runge

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Probably volume labels on the diskettes differ. I have installed
several MS applications by copying all the diskettes to a
single directory. Then running setup (install) from that
directory. Install goes quick and pgm never asks for a diskette.

B Wills wrote:

> I have a copy of MS Word 5.5 on 5 1/4 inch diskettes.  I had a friend
> with an older computer that still had this sized drive to copy the
> disks onto 3.5 floppies.  Well, disk 1 of 6 copied, then the rest
> refused.  Is this copy protection at work or a diskette drive gone
> bad?  I kinda doubt MS will exchange these for me!

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Hi Dennis,

> DUH, make that OB6DSK.ZIP.
> Anyway, I have it if you need it.

Could you please send me OB6DSK.ZIP.

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Any feelings on the comparison of Stacker 4.0 vs. 3.0 on the palmtop?
Primarily with flash cards?  Greater compression, stability, reliability,
speed, security, conventional RAM footprint, installation, etc.?

Any help would be appreciated.

David Runge

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This sounds serious. I never use the built-in stuff (except the
calculator) so I have only followed this with half an eye; therefore
apologies if I happen to repeat earlier suggestions.

- Have you tried running chkdsk on the disk?
- Try dumping the file in hex and see if there is a length byte up front
  which has been corrupted.
  You can use the LIST program and type ALT-H to see the hex dump OR
  I can email you a tiny 489 byte DUMP program.
- copy the file to a desktop computer and see which size it has.

Jorgen

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Can somebody send me a copy of the modified ACECARD.COM driver that works with
the double speed upgrade?  Or know where I can get it?

I've got a 2x HP200LX and a 20mb DoubleFlash+ flash card purchased from Ace
Technologies in 1995.  I understand that the ACECARD.COM that came with it
doesn't work with the new double-speed driver.

Regards,

David Runge

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CSchlim wrote:
>
> Try copying them to the hard drive of the computer, disk one to subdirectory
> "DISKONE", etc.   Then try copying them back to a 3 1/2".   Might work!
>
> Cathy
>
Cathy has a good answer. However, the disks may have become bad because
of a fungus growth that affects computer floppies, cassette tapes, VCR
tapes and so on in damp climates. If you have a disk that will not read
in a drive which has been working with no problem, before you put a
second disk in the drive, put a cleaning disk with a little alcohol on
it. Run that disk for a few seconds, stop, let it dry for a few seconds
and then try your next disk.

In this climate, this is a common problem and the residue from the first
disk collects on the head in the drive and wears through the oxide on
the next disk and ruins it. Been there, done that.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Has anyone else out there heard of, or used "Sante' (For Good Health)" by
Hopkins Technology?  I think that is a great diet and exercise (calorie
expenditure) program that runs fine on the HP200LX.  It has one of the most
extensive food value databases I have ever heard of.  Its a great recipe
program too that allows you to create recipes of your own with nutrient values
for each serving, shopping lists, history graphs of calorie intake and
calories expended.  I've only touched on its capabities.

I used this program about a year ago and it helped me tremendously.  Now that
I have more disk space, I'm using it again.  I only wish it had a more up-to-
date fast food database.  The version I'm using is 2.21 from 1990.  I chose
this program after doing extensive research into palmtop and desktop programs
of this type.  This is the best I found, because, if you don't have it with
you, and if it isn't easy, you won't stick with it!

They had a web site, and I'd find it for you but my ISP is having some
difficulty at the moment.  I think the cost was something like $35.  As I
recall, the program installation insisted on being run in a directory called
SANTE just off one level from the root directory.  Other than that
installation was flawless.  Install to desktop, then transfer to a SANTE
directory on the palmtop.  Size is a little large for full installation at
2mb, but hey, there's compression right?  And it compresses to greater than
1.7:1 overall with Stacker 3.0 on my machine.  Down to about 750kb with PKZIP.

BTW, I have no association with Hopkins Technology.

Regards,
David Runge

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On Sat, 6 Dec 1997 00:00:20 -0500, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>From:    Andreas Hense <Andreas_Hense@FLENSBURG.EURO.CSG.MOT.COM>

>It seems
>that there is no chance even to upload the outlook data to have your
>contacts and appointments updated daily (gdbio for contacts seems to
>work but there is no solution for the appointments).

I don't know what import/export capabilities Outlook has, but if you can
get CSV data in/out, my hero Andreas Garzotto wrote an app called ADBIO
which functions like gdbio, but for appointment book databases. I have not
tried it myself, but you might find it useful. I'll send to Mitch for
inclusion on SUPER.

Oh, definitely, if anyone finds Groupwise tools, let us all know!

-Peter

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David,

Try Mack Baggette at times2tech.com. He provided the new driver on a
3.5" when mine was upgraded.

Cameron

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Jeff,
Got the Topcard switcher properly installed and looking through my downloads
found a total of 29 possible topcards.
They come from several sources and I have them compressed in a self
decompressing exe file(approx. 76 Kb).
I remember that you were looking for some topcards. Want them?


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 an>Date:         Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:33:39 -0500
 an>I have a problem that has been nagging me for years.
 an>I have accumulated a number of modems connected to various
 an>computers. These in general work ok but when I install new software,
 an>I am always asked questions like, is this a class 1 or class 2 fax
 an>modem. The user's manual never gives a clue to this information. I
 an>have one modem that has the creative name, "Pcmcia Fax Modem Card
 an>28.8 Kbps." I have the original manuals for this and all the manual
 an>is is a generic list of Hayes commands.
I also have several modems for which I do not have documentation or where the
documentation does not give a satisfactory answer. I am using Volpes
Modem doctor and am mostly able to get all the answers I need. Did try
modem doctor once out on the HP100LX and had a nice crash of the system.
Never tried it out any more on the 100LX but on my other computers it works
fine.


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Subject:      charging batteries

My 100LX 1Mb behaves strange when charging batteries.
It does not keep the settings Nickel Cadmium and Enable charging.
When I OK the setting it will (sometimes) start charging but only few times
it will fully charge the batteries.
In most cases it will give the message *BATTERY ERROR* - Press ESC.
and stops charging al together. I thought that may be my rechargeable
batteries were defect (Hitachi Nickel Cadmium 700mA) and just got myself
two new Varta High Cap (1200mAh Nickel Metal Hydride) batteries.
I also downloaded ABC/LX program in order to monitor the charging better.
In order to process the configuration I followed the instructions and all
went well. The first time I needed recharging (battery low warning) it
started charging, reached the max charge (2,92) very fast and stopped.
Battery value after this super fast charge 2.70 volt.
After that every time I tried to charge battery error again and again.
Can I force the responsible .env file to keep charging enabled or is there
something broke in my HP or is my charger defect? How could I find out? Any
ideas?
PS
as a matter of fact, charging is going on right now after lots of battery
errors. Won't touch my Palmtop in order not to disturb the charging. Perhaps
it charges again without difficulties.


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Subject:      Megahertz PCMCIA modem

From a friend I got a Megahertz Pcmcia 2.0 Data/fax Modem 14.400/14.400 bps.

This is the model which does not yet have the X-jack but uses a cable.
This cable is not available. Got lost somewhere. I have checked the modem on
my HP100LX and I get it started but due to the missing cable that is as far
as I get. Does somebody knows where I could get a cable. To make one
by myself is difficult if not impossible I presume because there
is not much room to make the contacts.


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Subject:      lightning and telephone lines

Living in a region where severe lightnings are common (according to experts
approx 400 lightnings per year) my ISP warns its users
to disconnect the telephone lines from the modem if not in use.
Although I have my HP100LX not always connected to the telephone line that
is different with my other computers. Has anybody ever had lightning damage?


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Hi
Poss ans to your modem ques.
since u only have 2 choices and it works on some apps.
whatever you installed it as, it is.  Note it.
Some apps will even tell you what its using.
As for Modem Doc, try again or try using an older version
that can be gotten from an old large BBS.
yor pal al............

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Date:         Sat, 6 Dec 1997 16:34:26 +0100
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> started charging, reached the max charge (2,92) very fast and stopped.

This sounds to me as if there was a problem with measuring the battery
voltage. 2.92 volts is pretty high for NiMHs and if this is reached
*fast*, then something seems to be wrong. Battery error usually means
the measured voltage is higher than what is "normal" for the type of
battery you use. If you have a voltage meter, you might want to compare
the voltage it measures with the voltage the palmtop displays.

Andreas D&A

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Date:         Sat, 6 Dec 1997 11:57:43 -0500
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A new major release of LXPIC is available:

Version 6.0  -Low, medium, high resolution list modes {J,K,L}
(06-DEC-97)  -640x200x4 grayscale CGA mode (Palmtop only)
             -Grayscale/B&W toggle key {W} added on the Palmtop
             -Save CGA thumbnail screen as B&W PCX file {F5}
             -Gamma correction added {6,9}
             -Better text color selection (desktop only)
             -Low resolution VESA start up mode (desktop only)

The new 640x200x4 grayscale CGA mode may look a little strange
dependant on the picture you are looking at, because it has not
so much contrast. But it sure has more information than the
640x200x2 B&W mode. If you don't like the new mode, simply
press {W} once, to enable B&W display. Please see also the
PALMTOP ADVICE section of the doc, if your screen flickers in
the new mode.

I could not find the color bit of the display controller, but I
keep on searching. :)

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Date:         Sat, 6 Dec 1997 11:19:52 -0500
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I do a lot of work with modems and phone systems.  Take your ISP's advice!
Lightning can and will wreak havoc on electronic devices connected to phone
lines.  Have you ever seen an example of a telephone handset that has been
through a lightning strike?  It's not a pretty site, and usually the person
holding the handset does not fare to well.  Your best bet is to unplug your
equipment from the phone line, or invest in a lightning arrest specifically
for telephone lines.  I usually install these where the phone line comes
into the building (house) so that everything attached to the line is
protected.


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From: Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Saturday, December 06, 1997 9:00 AM
Subject: lightning and telephone lines


>Living in a region where severe lightnings are common (according to experts
>approx 400 lightnings per year) my ISP warns its users
>to disconnect the telephone lines from the modem if not in use.
>Although I have my HP100LX not always connected to the telephone line that
>is different with my other computers. Has anybody ever had lightning
damage?
>
>
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sounds like he intends to continue win ce in the palmtop paper. maybe some
pages dedicated to lotus 123,agenda Q and A.Profiles of  HP palmtop
greats.lists of www links and resources.maybe a contest  a treasure hunt on
the internet for clues to find a 200lx a new clue a month. come on you guys
and gals he said he wanted ideas and input. lets cover him up and bury that ce
forever. roy

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>I am sorry that members of this list feel that we are covering the Win
>CE market too much, but one of the complaints we have had in the past is=

>that we don't cover any of the competition - the basic fact is that the
>Palmtop Paper covers HP Palmtops, and HP's foray into the Win CE market

Bah, I have had a look at the web-version of the Palmtop Paper and got
the impression 1) that the paper *only* cover the competition and 2)
that they are trying to buy up all the HP200LX's to ensure that people
change to the competition. Any HP200LX owner ought to feel cheated and
react immediately.

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Date:         Sat, 6 Dec 1997 11:16:38 -0800
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Microsoft will replace damaged diskettes for a nominal charge - I had some
replaced for about $20, if I recall correctly.  You might call them.

At 12:20 AM 12/6/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Probably volume labels on the diskettes differ. I have installed
>several MS applications by copying all the diskettes to a
>single directory. Then running setup (install) from that
>directory. Install goes quick and pgm never asks for a diskette.
>
>B Wills wrote:
>
>> I have a copy of MS Word 5.5 on 5 1/4 inch diskettes.  I had a friend
>> with an older computer that still had this sized drive to copy the
>> disks onto 3.5 floppies.  Well, disk 1 of 6 copied, then the rest
>> refused.  Is this copy protection at work or a diskette drive gone
>> bad?  I kinda doubt MS will exchange these for me!
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Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 20:17:26 -0800
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When I go to you files page, I get bounced back to your home page
whether I want to or not.  Is this a feature?


At 11:55 AM 12/4/97 -0500, you wrote:
>See my web page  for a link to the Windows 3.1/95 PIM appt/phone
>applications.  Go to the Files page.  It's the last link (to puma), and
>includes a demo of puma's syncronization software.
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At 08:40 PM 12/4/97 -0600, you wrote:
>First of all, let me explain that the only thing I'm interested in
>keeping on both my HP200LX and my work computer (Compaq Pentium
>running Windows 3.1) is the PhoneBook.  I use it to paste addresses
>into letters I write with WPerfect for Windows.  I've been satisfied
>with the cpack200 software for keeping the two copies synched, but
>not satisfied with the many steps needed to cut and paste (open
>Phonebook, find entry, cut with SmartClip, close PhoneBook, open
>Memo, paste into Memo, save file, go back to word processor, and
>finally insert address!)
>

You could make an EasyShare agent to simplify the process.

1. Open phonebook yourself and search for record.
2, Hit a hot keyto activiate EasyShare. EasyShare grabs data,
closes Phonebook, opens Memo, pastes into Memo, saves file
and returns you toWord Processor.  EasyShare could also grab
data from phonebook and write it directly to some file.  If you were using a
better program than WP for Windows, (like WP for DOS),
 Easyshare could  also easily automate it, too.

DOS programs are much easier to automate than Windows.
Windows is just good for babies who need to do everything
visually and *manually.*


Just kidding.  I love some Windows programs, too--especially
ones that capitalize on the use of graphics


You might also explore the use of WinBatch to automate WP for
Windows.


>Thanks for any suggestions.
>
>Theodore Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
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Date:         Sat, 6 Dec 1997 11:31:44 -0800
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Can you tell me where you got the topcard switcher program?  And, if they
are available, I would like a copy of the topcards.

At 04:53 AM 12/6/97 +0900, you wrote:
>Jeff,
>Got the Topcard switcher properly installed and looking through my downloads
>found a total of 29 possible topcards.
>They come from several sources and I have them compressed in a self
>decompressing exe file(approx. 76 Kb).
>I remember that you were looking for some topcards. Want them?
>
>
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Date:         Sat, 6 Dec 1997 19:41:04 GMT
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Subject:      Re: lightning and telephone lines
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On Sat, 6 Dec 1997 11:19:52 -0500, you wrote:

>I do a lot of work with modems and phone systems.  Take your ISP's =
advice!
>Lightning can and will wreak havoc on electronic devices connected to =
phone
>lines.  Have you ever seen an example of a telephone handset that has =
been
>through a lightning strike?  It's not a pretty site, and usually the =
person
>holding the handset does not fare to well.  Your best bet is to unplug =
your
>equipment from the phone line, or invest in a lightning arrest =
specifically
>for telephone lines.=20

> I usually install these where the phone line comes
>into the building (house) so that everything attached to the line is
>protected.
>
This bothers me.. It looks like you are stating that if you put on a=20
LIGHTNING ARRESTER on you phone line you will have NO MORE
WORRIES....    WRONG!!
It will Help, but if you get hit,  the lightning will Still Zap to ground=
 what ever
is in the path..

We don't need to go hide our heads in the sand.
But we Do Need to think about thigs just a little..
When a storm is coming if we can, unplug the phone line from=20
the modem and unplug the AC power from the wall outlet..

We are thinking type lets use our heads when it comes to a storm.
Lets not just stand around and shake our hands..


>
>Sean Hoger

>>Living in a region where severe lightnings are common (according to =
experts
>>approx 400 lightnings per year) my ISP warns its users
>>to disconnect the telephone lines from the modem if not in use.
>>Although I have my HP100LX not always connected to the telephone line =
that
>>is different with my other computers. Has anybody ever had lightning
>damage?

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      73  Dean W5GXL
          deanl@bigfoot.com

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Date:         Sat, 6 Dec 1997 14:33:00 -0500
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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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-> Bah, I have had a look at the web-version of the Palmtop Paper and
-> got the impression 1) that the paper *only* cover the competition and
-> 2) that they are trying to buy up all the HP200LX's to ensure that
-> people change to the competition. Any HP200LX owner ought to feel
-> cheated and react immediately.

        I don't see how you've drawn that conclusion.  They are
upgrading and re-selling the Palmtops that they buy.

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Date:         Sat, 6 Dec 1997 12:02:29 -0800
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Dump programs are convenient, but don't
forget you can use debug to view the contents
of *any* file.

debug <filename>
then enter d
to start displaying the dump on screen.



At 03:52 AM 12/6/97 -0500, you wrote:
>This sounds serious. I never use the built-in stuff (except the
>calculator) so I have only followed this with half an eye; therefore
>apologies if I happen to repeat earlier suggestions.
>
>- Have you tried running chkdsk on the disk?
>- Try dumping the file in hex and see if there is a length byte up front
>  which has been corrupted.
>  You can use the LIST program and type ALT-H to see the hex dump OR
>  I can email you a tiny 489 byte DUMP program.
>- copy the file to a desktop computer and see which size it has.
>
>Jorgen
>
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Date:         Sat, 6 Dec 1997 12:04:47 -0800
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And it works better and faster for some things than sissy mouse clicking
here and there.


At 04:41 PM 12/5/97 -0700, you wrote:
>     Hi you all !
>     My question is this, if DOS is dead then why does MS include it in NT,
>     although as a emulator I know but still why? There must be something
>     to that thing DOS. Oh I know it W o r k s !!!
>
>     Helmut in Colorado
>
>
>
>______________________________ Reply Separator
_________________________________
>Subject: Re: DOS Dead? Not!
>Author:  Non-HP-mdstockr (mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
>Date:    12/5/97 6:10 AM
>
>
>DOS is still the lowest common denominator for all PC's.  Designing your
product
> to run
>in DOS insures the largest possible customer base (DOS/Win/Win95).
>
>--- On Thu, 4 Dec 1997 22:16:46 -0600  Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:
>
>>With all the talk about DOS being dead, I wonder why all the game
>>devlopers (EPIC for example) continue to develope games that run as DOS
>>applications and not Win 95 apps?
>>
>-----------------End of Original Message-----------------
>
>______________________________________________
>
>  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
>           12/5/97 8:08:30 AM EST
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Date:         Sat, 6 Dec 1997 15:19:19 -0500
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Subject:      1-2-3 passwords

If you forget the password to a Lotus 1-2-3 file, are you dead or is there
a way to get into the file anyway?

Thanks.


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Date:         Sat, 6 Dec 1997 22:27:35 +0200
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              Leo Theron <leot@ISDIAL.COM>
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Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

> Living in a region where severe lightnings are common...

Well, here in the Gauteng Province of South Africa - that is close to
Johannesburg - we are supposed to live in the inhabited area in the
world with the high number of lightning strikes per sq km.  The record
is an area in Australia, but it is not inhabited.

But,

A few years ago the lightning hit quite close to my house and it
destroyed:

Modem;  Pieces were falling around inside...
Portable Telephone - Base station.  Now I have two handsets!
Printer - My priced NEC Spinwriter.  Only said
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr when switched on.
Olivetti XT Machine.  Dead with the smell of burnt plastic

So, Yes it can and will happen.  So where we hear the rumblings in the
distance, everything in my household is unplugged.

Not worth taking any chances.

Regards,

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   / /__ __    / _// /_  ___  _____  ___
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Date:         Sat, 6 Dec 1997 15:26:57 -0500
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From:         Jeff Peterson <jeff@DLTASSOC.COM>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX and Netcom

Here is the script that I use to log into Netcom:

Netcom
Port=2             #PCMCIA 14.4 MODEM
Baud=19200
Modem=1
PPP=1
Login=XXXXXXXX     #YOUR LOGIN (MAKE SURE YOU PRECEED WITH "#")
;ATTENTION: password is encoded!
Password=xxxxxxx   #YOUR PASSWORD
ModemInit=ATZ      #GENERIC MODEM INT STRING
Dial=ATDTXXX-XXXX  #YOUR LOCAL DIALIN NUMBER
DNS_IP=199.182.120.203
DNS2_IP=199.182.120.202
Script=ISP_PPP_Script
OmniGo=0
My_IP=0.0.0.0

; script sections -------------------------------

ISP_PPP_Script
e=Initializing Modem
m=
s=\r
w=5 OK
e=Dialing
d=
s=\r
@=25
s=\r
w=10 in:
e=Logging in
l=
s=\r
w=10 word:
e=Sending Password
p=
s=\r
w=5 ....
e=Starting PPP

This should work for you, let me know if it doesn't.
Jeff Peterson
jeff@dltassoc.com
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Date:         Sat, 6 Dec 1997 14:05:52 -0800
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Where can you find EasyShare>

At 08:10 PM 12/4/97 -0800, you wrote:
>At 08:40 PM 12/4/97 -0600, you wrote:
>>First of all, let me explain that the only thing I'm interested in
>>keeping on both my HP200LX and my work computer (Compaq Pentium
>>running Windows 3.1) is the PhoneBook.  I use it to paste addresses
>>into letters I write with WPerfect for Windows.  I've been satisfied
>>with the cpack200 software for keeping the two copies synched, but
>>not satisfied with the many steps needed to cut and paste (open
>>Phonebook, find entry, cut with SmartClip, close PhoneBook, open
>>Memo, paste into Memo, save file, go back to word processor, and
>>finally insert address!)
>>
>
>You could make an EasyShare agent to simplify the process.
>
>1. Open phonebook yourself and search for record.
>2, Hit a hot keyto activiate EasyShare. EasyShare grabs data,
>closes Phonebook, opens Memo, pastes into Memo, saves file
>and returns you toWord Processor.  EasyShare could also grab
>data from phonebook and write it directly to some file.  If you were using a
>better program than WP for Windows, (like WP for DOS),
> Easyshare could  also easily automate it, too.
>
>DOS programs are much easier to automate than Windows.
>Windows is just good for babies who need to do everything
>visually and *manually.*
>
>
>Just kidding.  I love some Windows programs, too--especially
>ones that capitalize on the use of graphics
>
>
>You might also explore the use of WinBatch to automate WP for
>Windows.
>
>
>>Thanks for any suggestions.
>>
>>Theodore Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
>>
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Date:         Sat, 6 Dec 1997 17:41:45 -0500
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From:         Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: charging batteries

Sat, 6 Dec 1997 04:56:07, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

> My 100LX 1Mb behaves strange when charging batteries.
> It does not keep the settings Nickel Cadmium and Enable charging.
> When I OK the setting it will (sometimes) start charging but only few
> times it will fully charge the batteries.
> In most cases it will give the message *BATTERY ERROR* - Press ESC.
> and stops charging al together.

I use Radio Shacks Nickel Cadmium 850mA and Nickel Metal Hydrid
1200mAh. Both work great w/ ABC/LX.

When I first switched to the 1200mAh and forgot to change the settings
I got a *BATTERY ERROR*. But after I made the necessary changes, It
hasn't happened since.

Make sure that you have the correct settings for the batteries being
used.

Also did you let ABC/LX do an Auto Tune on you batteries?
Try deleting your old ABC/LX config and run the AUTO Tune again. (:-)













Regards,

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/ /_/ / / / / / / / /_/ / / / / _ _
\___\_\/_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/_/ /_(_|_|_)

hp 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Sat, 6 Dec 1997 17:42:22 -0500
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Subject:      Re: ACECARD.COM for 2x Palmtop

Sat, 6 Dec 1997 08:31:20, C. Vaught wrote:
> David,
> Try Mack Baggette at times2tech.com. He provided the new driver on a
> 3.5" when mine was upgraded.
>
> Cameron

I just took a look at the times2tech web page and got the following
info.

The TechSpeed Upgrade includes the following:
 Crystal
 Software Driver (v1.5b is the latest)
 Torx bit
 Documentation

I didn't find any mention that the updated ACECARD.COM driver would be
included or is the Software Driver and ACECARD.COM one in the same?













Regards,

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  / __ \  ____ ___  ____ _____
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Has anyone any experience with the GeoClip or another clip type holder
I've seen advertised in the Palmtop Paper.  I need something that holds
the little thing while I drive.

Les
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Date:         Sun, 7 Dec 1997 02:44:54 +0100
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On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Helmut Grossinger wrote:

>      Hi you all !
>      My question is this, if DOS is dead then why does MS include it in NT,
>      although as a emulator I know but still why? There must be something
>      to that thing DOS. Oh I know it W o r k s !!!
>
>      Helmut in Colorado
>
>


DOS is dead, as far as mainstream use goes. The reason it is supported in
NT is that a huge amount of software exists for DOS, software that has not
yet, or might never, be written as native NT applications. DOS has been
reduced to being used for special purposes, such as on small computers
(the palmtops). On a modern day desktop computer, an application running
under DOS has no advantages over the same application written as an 95/NT
app, running under 95/NT. On the contrary, I would say. NT has the
advantage of multitasking, better use of resources, etc. You can do this
with dos multitaskers/taskswitchers, but it is not as effective. This is
not to say that I am a 95/NT convert :-) My Word Processor of choice is
still Word Perfect v5.1 for DOS, and it doesn't look as if I'm going to
change soon.

The advantage of using DOS on a palmtop, as opposed to a custom made OS,
is the large amount of software already written and just as importantly
the large amount of availiable programming languages. That I could run
Pascal, Forth, and a few more obscure languages (ML, anyone?) languages on
my 200LX was one of the main reasons I bought it. I was rather tempted by
the Psion 5 series, but it simply didn't have enough programming languages
availiable and the ones that were, were either cross-platform or costed
money... A lot of DOS software is free. (It did have a Sinclair Spectrum
emulator... something I really miss on the 200LX ;-)  I think the Spectrum
was called the Timex in the States BTW.)

Well, it seems I have gotten a bit off subject here. Oh, well... ;-)

Regards,

Laust

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   Dear HPLX Mailing List,

   Let me re-introduce myself to the list, it has been a long time
   since I contributed anything to the list, and for that I owe
   apologies to all.

   My name is Tom Gibson and I am the Technical Editor for the HP
   Palmtop Paper and also for Handheld PC Magazine along with being
   the Webmaster for our Web site.

   I have been a member of this list, as Mitch said, from the
   beginning, I think I was the third member of the original, and was
   a member of the new incarnation since before the list became public
   - correct me if I am wrong Al - and I have found the information
   invaluable and much of what is discussed on this list finds it's
   way into the HP Palmtop Paper.

   I am sorry that members of this list feel that we are covering the
   Win CE market too much, but one of the complaints we have had in
   the past is that we don't cover any of the competition - the basic
   fact is that the Palmtop Paper covers HP Palmtops, and HP's foray
   into the Win CE market is the first since the Omnigo (we all
   remember that don't we?) which we announced in the HP Palmtop Paper
   and then launched a magazine to cover the Omnigo.

   What we are trying to do is cover HP Palmtops, and many subscribers
   have asked about the HP line of Win CE devices, so we carry
   announcements and have a few articles that cover it.

   The way stuff gets into the HP Palmtop Paper is from people like
   you.  Mitch has written a profile that we published and Jorgen
   Wallgren has written a couple of articles for us.  The problem is
   that I don't get as much time as I used to be online with the
   users soliciting articles, and we don't have much of a backlog of
   material at this time because of it.  It's not that there is no
   material to write about, there are tons, it's just that we don't
   sit here and write the stuff ourselves.  I know that everyone on
   this list and for that matter everyone who uses the 200LX have
   unique things that they do with the palmtop, that is what makes for
   an interesting publication.

   If anyone on this list would like to write an article, tip or
   whatever, we would be glad to hear from you.  Our readers are also
   our contributors, and without them, there would be no HP Palmtop
   Paper.  Writers guidelines for the HP Palmtop Paper are on our web
   site (http://www.thaddeus.com) and I would be more than happy to
   send them to anyone who wishes to write for the Palmtop Paper, and
   would be happy to put it on S.U.P.E.R. or any other site.  Of
   course, we can't guarentee that the article/tip/whatever will be
   published.

   We (Thaddeus Computing) have made a commitment to the 200LX market
   that we will continue the HP Palmtop Paper as long as we can
   without it losing money, and have begun upgrading new and used
   palmtops to supplement the HP Palmtop Paper.

   I am sorry that I am rambling on here, so I will stop.  If anyone
   wants to reach me, my email address is tom_gibson@thaddeus.com

   Tom Gibson
   Technical Editor - HP Palmtop Paper
   tom_gibson@thaddeus.com

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Date:         Sun, 7 Dec 1997 14:51:19 -0500
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Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

I
>  an>have one modem that has the creative name, "Pcmcia Fax Modem Card
>  an>28.8 Kbps." I have the original manuals for this and all the manual
>  an>is is a generic list of Hayes commands.
> I also have several modems for which I do not have documentation or where the
> documentation does not give a satisfactory answer. I am using Volpes
> Modem doctor and am mostly able to get all the answers I need. Did try
> modem doctor once out on the HP100LX and had a nice crash of the system.
> Never tried it out any more on the 100LX but on my other computers it works
> fine.
>
> Abandon the search for truth; settle on a good fantasy!
>
That sounds like good stuff. Where can I buy some of this "Volpes modem
doctor"?

Your second solution is not bad either.

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Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
>
> Living in a region where severe lightnings are common (according to experts
> approx 400 lightnings per year) my ISP warns its users
> to disconnect the telephone lines from the modem if not in use.
> Although I have my HP100LX not always connected to the telephone line that
> is different with my other computers. Has anybody ever had lightning damage?
>
I have never had lightning damage to a computer but I have lost a fax
machine to lightning. I had a computer modem (turned off) on the same
phone line at the same time. It really changed my mind about using
internal modems. All telephone lines are supposed to have a lightning
arrester and fuses on the line. Most lightning is a jolt induced from a
discharge some distance away. A direct lightning strike would just leave
a charred path where the phone line used to be. Fortunate that that is
so rare. I believe that even these little PCMCIA modems have a varistor
across the phone line and capacitors to ground but it is obvious that
these little parts could dissipate only a little power.

Best regards,

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Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
>
> My 100LX 1Mb behaves strange when charging batteries.
> It does not keep the settings Nickel Cadmium and Enable charging.
> When I OK the setting it will (sometimes) start charging but only few times
> it will fully charge the batteries.
> In most cases it will give the message *BATTERY ERROR* - Press ESC.
> and stops charging al together. I thought that may be my rechargeable
> batteries were defect (Hitachi Nickel Cadmium 700mA) and just got myself
> two new Varta High Cap (1200mAh Nickel Metal Hydride) batteries.
> I also downloaded ABC/LX program in order to monitor the charging better.
> In order to process the configuration I followed the instructions and all
> went well. The first time I needed recharging (battery low warning) it
> started charging, reached the max charge (2,92) very fast and stopped.
> Battery value after this super fast charge 2.70 volt.
> After that every time I tried to charge battery error again and again.
> Can I force the responsible .env file to keep charging enabled or is there
> something broke in my HP or is my charger defect? How could I find out? Any
> ideas?
> PS
> as a matter of fact, charging is going on right now after lots of battery
> errors. Won't touch my Palmtop in order not to disturb the charging. Perhaps
> it charges again without difficulties.
>
I will give you a free suggestion and it is worth everything that you
paid for
it. It may be that the HP100LX is working properly (in it's limited
world view). If you put in normal alkaline cells and attempted to charge
them, they would behave much the way that you described. Rise quickly to
about 3 volts (per pair). This might make the HP believe that you are
doing something wrong. If it continues to trouble you, I would buy a set
of alkaline batteries, install them and set the computer to non
rechargable cells. Then when these are used up, put the NiCD cells back
in and try them again. Actually, I have a pair of the HItachi 700 ma.
hr. cells that I am going to install when the present cells are
finished. Your cells may be defective. If mine behave the same way, I
will let you know.

My thinking is that, when the HP100LX was made, these newer kinds of
batteries were not in existance. Thus, when the computer sees something
that does not fit the programmed pattern, it makes the only assumption
that it can. I have heard that someone is writing or has written
software for the HP200LX to accomodate charging the NiMh cells. I have
also heard that the voltmeter in the HP200LX doesn't control charging.
Hope this helps.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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HOBCHI wrote:
>
> Hi
> Poss ans to your modem ques.
> since u only have 2 choices and it works on some apps.
> whatever you installed it as, it is.  Note it.
> Some apps will even tell you what its using.
> As for Modem Doc, try again or try using an older version
> that can be gotten from an old large BBS.
> yor pal al............
>
My problem comes when I decide to add fax software and the software asks
a lot of questions like what chip set does your modem have?

Best regards,

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Andreas Garzotto wrote:
>
> > started charging, reached the max charge (2,92) very fast and stopped.
>
> This sounds to me as if there was a problem with measuring the battery
> voltage. 2.92 volts is pretty high for NiMHs and if this is reached
> *fast*, then something seems to be wrong. Battery error usually means
> the measured voltage is higher than what is "normal" for the type of
> battery you use. If you have a voltage meter, you might want to compare
> the voltage it measures with the voltage the palmtop displays.
>
> Andreas D&A
>
Two choices. Either defective cell or dirty contact so that it is not
really measuring the cell voltage.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
>
> On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Helmut Grossinger wrote:
>
> >      Hi you all !
> >      My question is this, if DOS is dead then why does MS include it in NT,
> >      although as a emulator I know but still why? There must be something
> >      to that thing DOS. Oh I know it W o r k s !!!
> >
> >      Helmut in Colorado
> >
> >
>
> DOS is dead, as far as mainstream use goes. The reason it is supported in
> NT is that a huge amount of software exists for DOS, software that has not
> yet, or might never, be written as native NT applications. DOS has been
> reduced to being used for special purposes, such as on small computers
> (the palmtops). On a modern day desktop computer, an application running
> under DOS has no advantages over the same application written as an 95/NT
> app, running under 95/NT. On the contrary, I would say. NT has the
> advantage of multitasking, better use of resources, etc. You can do this
> with dos multitaskers/taskswitchers, but it is not as effective. This is
> not to say that I am a 95/NT convert :-) My Word Processor of choice is
> still Word Perfect v5.1 for DOS, and it doesn't look as if I'm going to
> change soon.
>
As I was reading this, I thought about my old junk 'logic analyser'. It
is
really only a toy but I have used it several times to solve a problem
that
I had no other tool to attack. This thing connects to a computer as a
display
The software is DOS and IIRC uses CGA for the display. While no
reasonable
person would ascribe any value to this device, If the software were
gone, it
would be unusuable and to replace would be expensive beyond belief. The
company
who made the machine is long since out of business .... However, I would
bet
that I could run this on the HP200LX. On Windows? Not a chance.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Hi, I have 3 new in box Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA modems w/Xjack and 1 new
in bag Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA modem with cable connector for sale.  I am
currently using one of these in my HP100LX flawlessly. Buyer pays
shipping.  See below for more details.

Megahertz XJ1144 14.4kbps data/fax PCMCIA modem with Xjack connector in
sealed retail packaging
  Includes:
    modem
    FaxWorks data 3.0 for Windows (DOS software available by mailing in
enclosed request card.
    user manuals
    6 ft telephone cord
    trial memberships to Prodigy, AOL, Compuserve (oooohh!! :-)
  Features:
    xjack connector uses regular phone cord, no special cables needed.
Connector pushes in flush with modem when not in use.
    V.42 and MNP 4 error correction
    V42.bis and MNP 5 data compression
    Hayes AT command set
  Price:
    $50 + shipping
    trade for flash RAM

Megahertz CC4144 14.4kpbs data/fax PCMCIA modem with special cable
sealed new in bag
  Includes:
    modem
    user reference
    special cable (6ft? modem to standard telephone rj-11)
    (no software)
  Features:
    cellular phone cablable (need cable from Megehertz Cellular upgrade)
    FLASH ROM upgradable (available from MHZ BBS and/or Upgrade kit)
    V.42 and MNP 4 error correction
    V42.bis and MNP 5 data compression
    Hayes AT command set
  Price:
    $40 + shipping
    trade for flash RAM

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Comments: To: stefan.peichl@metronet.de

     Hello!

     Where do i get lxpic?


     Thanks Yehuda.



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Subject:      ANN: LXPIC 6.0
Author:  MIME:stefan.peichl@metronet.de at INTERNET2
Date:    12/6/97 7:04 PM


A new major release of LXPIC is available:

Version 6.0  -Low, medium, high resolution list modes {J,K,L}
(06-DEC-97)  -640x200x4 grayscale CGA mode (Palmtop only)
             -Grayscale/B&W toggle key {W} added on the Palmtop
             -Save CGA thumbnail screen as B&W PCX file {F5}
             -Gamma correction added {6,9}
             -Better text color selection (desktop only)
             -Low resolution VESA start up mode (desktop only)

The new 640x200x4 grayscale CGA mode may look a little strange
dependant on the picture you are looking at, because it has not
so much contrast. But it sure has more information than the
640x200x2 B&W mode. If you don't like the new mode, simply press
{W} once, to enable B&W display. Please see also the PALMTOP
ADVICE section of the doc, if your screen flickers in the new
mode.

I could not find the color bit of the display controller, but I
keep on searching. :)

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Quinton,

As I recall, spd31.sys and spd31c.com are the new drivers. They were
added to C:\ during the upgrade and were included on a disk.

If you have an ACE DoubleFlash Ram card, you need to remove the
acecard.com driver from config.sys.

Cameron

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>Any feelings on the comparison of Stacker 4.0 vs. 3.0 on the palmtop?

Stacker 4.0 works better than 3.0. The compression ratio is higher. However,
for best results stacker 4.0 requires DOS version 6 or later. The stacker
device driver can be configured to use expanded memory, with a EMM, thus it
still leaves more room for  DOS programs under 640 kB.

>Primarily with flash cards?  Greater compression, stability, reliability,

I tried to use stacker 4.0 on my flash cards, but it does not functioning as
I want . The card is mouunted as a stacker anywhere A: drive !.  However, it
is true, the compression is better, and I think it is more stable. The
compression ratio becomes very high when I put databases or text data more.
However, if I put binary file more and more then the compression ratio
decreased, pretty the same with the stacker 3.0. My 5 MB flash card
compressed into 12.5 MB with Stacker 4.0, but only 10 MB with stacker 3.0.
But again, it depends on type of data we put on the card.

>speed, security, conventional RAM footprint, installation, etc.?

Speed is quite the same like what we already have on our built in flash card
compression stacker 3.0. Stacker 4.0 requires more conventional memory. I
did not install  EMM200 driver on my palmtop (at least I failed to install
it correctly :-) ), thus I used the normal conventional memory. With the use
of conventional memory, I still have 555,760 B free  when I terminate all
built-in applications. With the program manager running, the conventional
memory free is 377K which is more than enough to run multiple built-in
programs (123, Memo,calculator, database, etc.).
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>David Runge
>

Hope this helps you .

Rgds,

D.Hendra
dxhendra@usa.net

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Hello, all.

I tried to expand several zip files from S.U.P.E.R , such as HV.ZIP and
VR100.ZIP with no success. The WINZIP / PKZIP software does not recognize
the format of those zip files. The error messages were "BAD ZIP File".
Anyone can help?.

Thanks & regards.

D.Hendra
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LXPIC 6.0 is available at:

http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/topfiles.pl
http://www.palmtop.net/super.html
http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/lxpic.zip

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On Sat,  6 Dec 1997, DMRunge <DMRunge@AOL.COM> wrote:

DM> Any feelings on the comparison of Stacker 4.0 vs. 3.0 on the palmtop?
DM> Primarily with flash cards?  Greater compression, stability, reliabili=
ty,
DM> speed, security, conventional RAM footprint, installation, etc.?

Hi David.

First off thanks for the sc installation tips - very useful.

I have used stacker 3 & 4 on my palmtops and found them both extremely
solid and 100% reliable. I have never lost data due to a stacker
problem on my palmtop. They work equally well on a flashcard or on the
c: drive however I do not recommend them on a 1 megger (jam is more
appropriate).

Version 4 has superior compression and as a result suffers a trifle
speed penalty over v3. The trade-off is worth it IMHO. As for low ram,
4 uses more of course but with ems available you can whittle the
dependency down to about 35k. Installation is a breeze with either
version.

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I've seen several tips so far. Maybe the following helps.
format your 3.5" disk with a capicity of 360k/1.2M. You can do this by
setting the3.5" drive in you compters bios as being a 5.25" diskdrive. (If you
need 1.2M check your bios for japanese standaard. This must also work.)

After formatting the 3.5" floppies as being 5.25" ones you can perform a
diskcopy from disk a: to b: (5.25" to 3.5"). This should work. Maybe you
have to fool the bios to use the disks afterwards. I've done this with Lotus
disks. Worked perfectly.


Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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I have only recently "found" this discussion group and have spent the
last several days reading the digests  - which at over a meg a month is
quite a (enjoyable and productive) task. I have a couple of inputs, and a
couple of questions. I'll give you my background so you'll understand my
biases! I have ah HP-100LX with a 10 Mb flash card and have used both
extensively since 1993. I used mostly the HP SysMgr software, with many
databases (adb, ndb, and gdb's), some spreadsheets, and Quicken in DOS. I
have the following inputs:
1. I use a standard 10in x 8in  Daytimer case for my HP. I put a strip of
velcro on the big plastic sheet that is in the back, put it in the front,
and a matching strip on the back of my HP makes it work. I keep a disk
holder, a calendar, and a pocket with junk (stamps, eraser, etc) and it
makes a useful, small package. I can't put it in my pocket, but I haven't
sat on it yet either! The padding in the Daytimer case protects well.
2. I saw a thread regarding a good math package for use on the HP - I use
a product called (depending on what version you get) Calculus Calculator
or (X)Plore. You can get (X)Plore by going to www.shareware.com and quick
search on "calculus" - I found the cdrom.com site to work and got a more
recent version. Very powerful.  I have modeled several systems with this
package and been very pleased with the results.
3. I program in both Turbo C and Turbo Pascal - they work well.

I was thinking of "upgrading" to a WinCE platform, but a few weeks of
moderating that discussion group made me look for this group, and here I
am, having decided that I want to upgrade to an HP-200 LX (with x2
doubler) for the following reasons:
1. 2MB base memory
2. Software support for syncing files with MS95 products (though I
perceive this isn't all it's cracked up to be)
3. Quicken in ROM (WIll give me another Meg or so on my Flashdisk)
4. Better BIOS/modem support
Besides, with the availability of used 200's, the price is too good not
to move up.
My questions:
1. How hard is NetTamer to setup? What ISP support is required? I am
really interested in email support only - what is my best option?
2. What's missing in Pocket Quicken?
3. Has anyone solved syncing with Outlook (that is the scheduling
software I use at work)
Thanks !
Brian

"The meek shall inherit the earth. About six feet of it."  - R. A.
Heinlein

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:05:45 +1300
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Laurence Harvey wrote:
>
> I am planning to visit New Zealand in the New Year, taking my trusty
> palmtop to ensure I am not cut off from the mailing list for too long!.
>
> I have noticed that there are some New Zealanders on the list and wondered
> if any of you can advise me on the availabiliy of Compuserve access, and if
> possible the setup of DOSCIM in New Zealand. I would hate to get there only
> to find that I do not have the correct access scripts or other relevant
> files.
>
> TIA > > Laurence Harvey
>
Hi Laurence
I use DisCim from my 200LX here in Wellington NZ
(not so often as its slow and expensive)

Local dial CompuservePacific numbers are
     CITY             AreaCode    Number
Auckland                 09     357 6642
Hamilton                 07     838 9966
Wellington               04     473 7949
Christchurch             03     365 4621
Dunedin                  03     477 8839
(in the city use "Number" only)

The phone connectors at the wall here are not RJ11 but a 6
connector variant that may be called RJ43 - my Wall to
RJ11 converters are marked 431A (available at the airport
when you arrive) Most newer phones have an RJ11 on the phone
end of the wire from the wall which means you can unplug at the
phone and connect with an RJ11 double female addapter.

Enjoy your trip & pack for summer
Cheers
John
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DMRunge wrote:
>
> Has anyone else out there heard of, or used "Sante' (For Good Health)" by
> Hopkins Technology?  I think that is a great diet and exercise (calorie
> expenditure) program that runs fine on the HP200LX.  It has one of the most
> extensive food value databases I have ever heard of.  Its a great recipe
> program too that allows you to create recipes of your own with nutrient values
> for each serving, shopping lists, history graphs of calorie intake and
> calories expended.  I've only touched on its capabities.

> They had a web site, and I'd find it for you but my ISP is having some
> difficulty at the moment.

http://www.hoptechno.com/santeall.htm

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Date:         Sun, 7 Dec 1997 16:08:27 -0500
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>This bothers me.. It looks like you are stating that if you put on a
>LIGHTNING ARRESTER on you phone line you will have NO MORE
>WORRIES....    WRONG!!
>It will Help, but if you get hit,  the lightning will Still Zap to ground
what ever
>is in the path..

>We don't need to go hide our heads in the sand.
>But we Do Need to think about thigs just a little..
>When a storm is coming if we can, unplug the phone line from
>the modem and unplug the AC power from the wall outlet..

>We are thinking type lets use our heads when it comes to a storm.
>Lets not just stand around and shake our hands..



Maybe so, but my point is that a lightning arrester can help.  I agree that
the best prevention is to unplug all of your electronic devices from the AC
and phone lines, but this is not always possible.  I have replaced quite a
few lightning arresters after storms that have been destroyed by lightning
where the equiptment downline was saved.


Sean Hoger
shoger@buyrite.com

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Cameron,

Actually, I understand there is a modified ACECARD.COM that *will* work with
the doublespeed upgrade.  It provides enhanced low battery warning protection
and use of BATMAN.

Regards,
David Runge

In a message dated 97-12-07 08:34:06 EST, you write:

<< Quinton,

 As I recall, spd31.sys and spd31c.com are the new drivers. They were
 added to C:\ during the upgrade and were included on a disk.

 If you have an ACE DoubleFlash Ram card, you need to remove the
 acecard.com driver from config.sys.

 Cameron
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Subject:      Stacker 4.0 vs. Stacker 3.0 - Round 2
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Thanks for the Stacker 4.0 vs. 3.0 info.  I could use more help please.

I read that Stacker 4.0 requires 17kb of conventional RAM vs. about 21kb with
Stacker 3.0 when using EMS as I intend to do.  Can anyone confirm this?

Also, one big reason I'd like to use 4.0 is because I think it might be able
to provide an uncompressed and compressed portion of a flash card and both can
be accessed simultaneously using different drive letters (like I used to do
years ago on a desktop machine using Stacker, and like DoubleSpace works).
However, from at least one reply, it sounds like Stacker doesn't do this.  Can
someone confirm this?  (An uncompressed area for speed, and a compressed drive
for space would be ideal).

Also, I tried to install 4.0 using the commercial product for desktop machines
but I had great difficulty.  First, I loaded Laplink on both machines, hoping
I could install direct to the redirected C: drive of the palmtop, which was
referenced as Drive F.  However, the installation program insisted on
installing to C:\STACKER.  I thought, OK, fine, let it install there and I'll
move the necessary files to the palmtop after installation, but noooo...

The host machine I was installing from has a Doublespace drive (created under
Win95) and before installation would complete, Stacker said it needed to
convert it to a Stacker drive and reboot the machine.  This I did not want and
canceled the install immediately.

I then tried manually moving over just the files I thought I needed from the
Stacker install that made it before I cancelled out.  (I didn't copy the
Windows files and DOS 6 specific files, as identified by the FILELIST.TXT).  I
then ran the setup from the palmtop's C: drive, but SETUP said it needed to
run from the original diskettes.

Can someone identify/ provide the necessary files and step by step
installation instructions?  (Al, is 4.1 better?  I want to be able to use some
of the tools too.)  The Stac web page that I printed out a couple of months
ago pertains only to stacking a palmtop's C: drive.

Do we need a Web page on this?  Does one already exist?

BTW, I got my copy new, in the box, about two years ago, from a friend who
used to work at Stac.

David Runge

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I'm looking for good arcade games that run on the HP200lx for those long
plane trips.  I'm especially looking for flying/defender type games.
Anyone have any recommendations?

Thanks!
-David

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I have "Days of Thunder" running on my HP200lx (well, it starts up at
least) but I can't for the life of me figure out the keys to play it.  Does
anyone know what they are?

Thanks!
-David

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> application running > under DOS has no advantages over the same
> application written as an 95/NT app, running under 95/NT. On the
> contrary, I would say. NT has the advantage of multitasking, better
> use of resources, etc.

You make valid points; but all that graphics overhead *costs* cycles. That's
why you need grunt to run NT. And linux on the same machine is *much*
faster (I believe). If you don't need multitasking, I bet that a DOS
application is faster than an NT version. (But I *like* multitasking!)


> the large amount of availiable programming languages...
> ...my 200LX was one of the main reasons I bought it.
Yes!

> tempted by the Psion 5 series, but it simply didn't have
> enough programming languages
*exactly* my reasons! and *only* OCP (?) on-the-unit
I'm programming in C, scripting in sed and awk, and have Steve Summit's
cfaq on-line. Edit using vi, and all the filtering tricks...


> Sinclair Spectrum emulator... something I really miss on the 200LX ;-)

Laust, you will be pleased to learn that there *is* a ZX spectrum emulator
for DOS (which pre-dates the Psion one considerably :) ) - several different
versions, in fact. I've had it running on my 200lx; it runs perfectly, but
at about 25% of full speed (with the Ultimate game "Pssst!"). Other versions
may run faster; and combining a double speed would probably do the trick.
The ZX81 emulator is many times faster than a ZX81!

How fast was the Psion version? and how accurate was the graphics emulation?
(This is what slows it down.)

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Date:         Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:44:52 -0800
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At 02:05 PM 12/6/97 -0800, Claud G. Cameron wrote:
>Where can you find EasyShare>
>

You can find a free trial version of EasyShare at

    http://www.adisoft-inc.com/

There is also an online reference manual for EasyShare there.
In addition there is a tutorial, but it is not yet available.

It should be soon, especially if you remind the folks at
Adisoft that it is not available on there web-site.



It's shareware.  If you like it and use it, you need to pay for it.


>At 08:10 PM 12/4/97 -0800, you wrote:
>>At 08:40 PM 12/4/97 -0600, you wrote:
>>>First of all, let me explain that the only thing I'm interested in
>>>keeping on both my HP200LX and my work computer (Compaq Pentium
>>>running Windows 3.1) is the PhoneBook.  I use it to paste addresses
>>>into letters I write with WPerfect for Windows.  I've been satisfied
>>>with the cpack200 software for keeping the two copies synched, but
>>>not satisfied with the many steps needed to cut and paste (open
>>>Phonebook, find entry, cut with SmartClip, close PhoneBook, open
>>>Memo, paste into Memo, save file, go back to word processor, and
>>>finally insert address!)
>>>
>>
>>You could make an EasyShare agent to simplify the process.
>>
>>1. Open phonebook yourself and search for record.
>>2, Hit a hot keyto activiate EasyShare. EasyShare grabs data,
>>closes Phonebook, opens Memo, pastes into Memo, saves file
>>and returns you toWord Processor.  EasyShare could also grab
>>data from phonebook and write it directly to some file.  If you were using a
>>better program than WP for Windows, (like WP for DOS),
>> Easyshare could  also easily automate it, too.
>>
>>DOS programs are much easier to automate than Windows.
>>Windows is just good for babies who need to do everything
>>visually and *manually.*
>>
>>
>>Just kidding.  I love some Windows programs, too--especially
>>ones that capitalize on the use of graphics
>>
>>
>>You might also explore the use of WinBatch to automate WP for
>>Windows.
>>
>>
>>>Thanks for any suggestions.
>>>
>>>Theodore Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
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>>Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
>>Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
>>SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
>>MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
>>Phil Seyer (415) 665-8933, ext. 333
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SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
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Dear Philip Seyer,

You are guilty of lots of quoting, including 2 of the
         'post no binaries, because they use lots of memory' tags.

I hearby sentence you to receive one `very mild flame'. This is it! :)


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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:50:57 +2000
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   >lightning strike would just leave a charred path where the phone
   >line used to be. Fortunate that that is so rare. I believe that
   >even these little PCMCIA modems have a varistor across the phone
   >line and capacitors to ground but it is obvious that these little

Dear all,

I had the chance to work with some R&D guys (Taiwanese) on modem design and
what I do know (I couldn't remember the details so there might be some
boo-boo here):
:

1. the phone line voltage is about 50VDC in my region and any thing higher
than 100 volts kills your modem. Higher than that and you will have
components on the modem getting fried.

2. The modem (internal 33.6k and 56k) that I was working on has a capacitor
of 500VDC as a surge protector of some sort in front of the modem circuit.

3. We are still getting modem fried esp. after a heavy thunderstorm with
characteristic of no dial tone, fax ok but data part dead, etc.


4. If a lightning hits a phone pole some miles away, your connected PC or
whatever gets charred and that it.

Got a friend whose house got hit (don't know how near but near enough) that
his fridge,TV and everthing in-between was dead. I understand that his PC
was plugged in but not switched on and afer the hit, the only thing that was
working is his serial port mouse!

So, the moral is that switching off is not enough, the plug has to be
completely removed if you are living in the area like mine. (I'm living in a
city where we even have a Insitute of Lighning Research which is just 15 km
away...)

cpwong
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   >Bah, I have had a look at the web-version of the Palmtop Paper and
   >got the impression 1) that the paper *only* cover the competition
   >and 2) that they are trying to buy up all the HP200LX's to ensure
   >that people change to the competition. Any HP200LX owner ought to
   >feel cheated and react immediately.
   >Jorgen
   >=

Dear all,

I tend to agree you Jorgen that PTP seem to be moving towards CE and less of
HP?00LX. Latest copy of the PTP have attest to that.Looks like there are
reviews previews of mostly CE machines and also very pro-HP (the CE
version).

Thaddeus not going to get my renewal if the format remains.

If I'm a palmtop newbie, I would be 'pesuaded' to look at CE first and not
otherwise. They also ran an article on the improvements of CE2.0, Again
spelling out all the wizz and bang of CE 2.0.

I have to confess that I do enjoy the interview with Mack Baggette.

Seems like the new managing editor, Ralph Turner wants to slowly merge
another Thaddeus publication (Windows CE) with PTP.

Jorgen, you did contribute and article on cc:Mail to PTP (thereby making you
a contributing writer) so I'm sure your e-mail to Hal Goldstein about your
displeasure would hold more 'weight' that us.


cpwong


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At 02:39 PM 12/8/97 +1100, you wrote:
>Dear Philip Seyer,
>
>You are guilty of lots of quoting, including 2 of the
>         'post no binaries, because they use lots of memory' tags.


By the way, that was no flame, mild or otherwise.
just a gentle reminder.


Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
Phil Seyer (415) 665-8933, ext. 333

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:36:07 +0900
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Comments: To: Kiyoshi Akima <kakima@usa.net>
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kakima>They are all formatted documents, so I'm relying on Memo's word-wrapping.
kakima> I have the margins set to either 40 or 64 for editing and 98 for
kakima> printing.

Perhaps the one doc that's giving you trouble may have been saved with "ASCII"
format? You can verify this by going Menu-File-saveAs with the bad file loaded
and see if "ASCII" is checked. Uncheck this box to save as Memo format. (That
is, to keep bold, underlines, et cetra.)

kakima>If this keeps up, I may have to get a WinCE machine and do all my writing in PocketWord...NOT!

Me either. Hope your problem gets solved.
--
Atsushi Tomozawa     | e-mail: tomozawa@neec.ho.nec.co.jp

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 00:44:18 -0600
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  Well, it really happened...  That heart stopping moment ten minutes ago,
as I was going down the stairs to my basement as I realised that the loud
banging noise I was hearing was the sound of my trusty 200LX as, having
slipped out of its padded pouch, it crashed end-over-end down ten feet of
bare wooden stairs and crashed to an abrupt stop over 15 feet away on the
hard concrete floor.  As I rush to the side of my fallen companion I spot
the flash card, both batteries, and the battery cover each laying several
feet from my palmtop.  I quickly reassemble things and with a sense of
dread, i pressed the ON button...  flicker...  totaly random garbage screen.
<eeeek!>  I hit the standard 3-finger reboot...  NOTHING happens...  (At
this point I'm already mentaly consulting my checkbook and wondering how
long I'll have to live on peanut butter sandwiches and macaroni before I'll
be able to afford a replacement...)

  With a sense of dread I hold my breath and hit the hard-reset...  A
momentary pause, then I faintly make out the familiar reboot message amongst
an array of dead and always-on pixel columns.  With a sinking feeling I tap
the palmtop gently to see if it's a loose connector only to have the
(formerly unnoticed) broken battery cover dump itself and the batteries on
the floor.  After replacing the batteries and several attempts at tapping
and (gently) flexing the display, a miracle occurs...  The screen briefly
flickers and then clearly displays the reboot message.  Salvation!!

  I've owned quite a few handhelds, but of all of them, none but the HPLX
series could have come thru something like this with not a single scratch,
only a broken battery cover and (perhaps) a touchy display connector.  I
just thought, after all the drop stories I've read here, that I'd share this
minor miracle with you all.

  Now, anyone know where I can get a battery cover without having to buy one
of those maintenance kits with a little bit of everything in it?  <grin>

  Regards to you all,
                   ... JLS


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Software Developer -- Dynasoft Systems

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:40:59 +1100
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Thank goodness this story had a happy ending!

Brendan Macmillan              PROJECT: Using information theory (MML) to
bren@cs.monash.edu.au                   evaluate models of nursery rhyme
http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren       melodies; and then compose tunes.

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Date:         Sun, 7 Dec 1997 11:08:43 -0500
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I'm trying to keep a running database of my inpatients and outpatients.
Database on the 200lx is good, but it only allows one note.  I need to be able
to have multiple fields where I can enter things like lists of medications,
ongoing problems, and inpatient course.

What solutions have you all come up with to deal with this?  I've considered
using a Lotus123 file, but that can be daunting and a little unformatted.

Thanks!

-- Terry

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 09:08:29 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > application running > under DOS has no advantages over the same
> > application written as an 95/NT app, running under 95/NT. On the
> > contrary, I would say. NT has the advantage of multitasking, better
> > use of resources, etc.
>
> You make valid points; but all that graphics overhead *costs* cycles. That's
> why you need grunt to run NT. And linux on the same machine is *much*
> faster (I believe). If you don't need multitasking, I bet that a DOS
> application is faster than an NT version. (But I *like* multitasking!)
>
Yes, a DOS application will probably be faster, since the machine doesn't
have to manage other programs.

>
> > the large amount of availiable programming languages...
> > ...my 200LX was one of the main reasons I bought it.
> Yes!
>
> > tempted by the Psion 5 series, but it simply didn't have
> > enough programming languages
> *exactly* my reasons! and *only* OCP (?) on-the-unit
> I'm programming in C, scripting in sed and awk, and have Steve Summit's
> cfaq on-line. Edit using vi, and all the filtering tricks...
>
I just use PalEdit and a Basic compiler... ;-)
>
> > Sinclair Spectrum emulator... something I really miss on the 200LX ;-)
>
> Laust, you will be pleased to learn that there *is* a ZX spectrum emulator
> for DOS (which pre-dates the Psion one considerably :) ) - several different
> versions, in fact. I've had it running on my 200lx; it runs perfectly, but
> at about 25% of full speed (with the Ultimate game "Pssst!"). Other versions
> may run faster; and combining a double speed would probably do the trick.
> The ZX81 emulator is many times faster than a ZX81!
>

Yeah, I know. There are *tons* of speccy emulators, but they all run
rather slowly. I did have success with one, though. If I disabled sound
and colour (what colour? ;-), Chaos would run at an acceptable speed. You
should be able to get almost full speed on a 200LX, though. One emulator I
tried was very fast indeed, but it always crashed very quickly. I don't
know why, though, but I think it was a protected-mode problem. One time
it crashed and displayed part of a Laplink error message... very odd,
Laplink wasn't even loaded...
(The emu is called Warajevo, btw. and if anyone has any succes getting it
to run, please let me know. It can be found at:
http://www.void.demon.nl/emulators.html )

> How fast was the Psion version? and how accurate was the graphics emulation?
> (This is what slows it down.)
>
I haven't seen the emulator in action, but I got the impression that it
ran at least full speed, except when there was a lot of moving
graphics.


Regards,

Laust
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/// "Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes."             ///

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 05:46:58 -0500
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>Jorgen, you did contribute and article on cc:Mail to PTP (thereby making=

>you a contributing writer) so I'm sure your e-mail to Hal Goldstein
>about your displeasure would hold more 'weight' that us.

Nope, not me - must be another "Jorgen".

I took a look at the web-site after reading the editors letter as I
would be interested in a mag about the LX and perhaps write an article.

BTW my remark about buying up LX'es should not be taken literally -
well, it should not "be taken at all" as I should not have written it.

I felt cheated - the website did not reflect the contents of the
encouraging letter from the editor. But then again, being in his shoes
can not be easy these days when an ill wind is blowing from from (the)
Gates.

Jorgen

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 07:49:44 EST
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I currently use a 4 page database file to follow my inpatients, I have room
for demographics including insurance info, 12 meds, 8 problems and date and
E/M level for up to 14 visits. I use one note field to keep brief running note
on pt to use an aid when dictating d/c summary or "presenting" pt to colleage
or person on call for me.
I only track the current meds and use the note section for any overflow.
When pt comes into the office for 1st time after d/c I refer to this data base
to remind myself of outstanding labs, meds that were changed or anything else
that needs follow up. Also this is a nice place to start when patients need to
be readmitted, Gives me a starting place for meds and problems.
I also use the smart clip feature to then print out a billing card that
includes the demographics and all the visit dates and E/M levels.
I usually have only a small hospital practice, currently my 34 patients over
the past year are in a file that is just over 26K in size.

I have not yet been able to come up with a format for my office pts although
often at night on call I wish I had lists of meds when pts called.

Andy Zarick, MD
Family Practice

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Well,  I still have to boot up DOS to back up my Windows 95 (tm) partition,
and the "emergency boot disks" for Windows are DOS, so I hope that DOS
continues to be included in future releases from Microsoft if only as an
emergency way to get the machine booted so that you can do something
when you mess up your giant bloated overly complex operating system.
   I also personally have several applications that I use which will never be
re-written for Windows, and most arcade-type games secretly use DOS
mode for speed. (some, most notably Age of Empires, are now entirely
Windows based, but (correct me if I'm wrong!) when speed counts
DOS is used, even if there is a Windows launcher).
   I've also seen DOS used as a boot-up for network installations of
Windows where a lot of machines are involved; you need some way to get booted
up from a floppy to log in to the server to get the installation process started.
   I'm not as familiar with what NT does in these cases, is NT small enough to
boot from a floppy to a command line  for emergency work like OS/2 was?
Someone can fill us in.


-Bryan


Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 09:40:45 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Would someone define "dead" as used when referring to the status of OS,
software, or anything else.  I'm quite clear on "dead" as it applies to
animals and plants.

If anyone cares, I think the word 'dead' and 'virus' or any other word
used to describe organic systems should not be used to describe the
state of being for inanimate objects, systems, or practices not related
to conditions of living systems.

As for the status of DOS, if people (like myself, and you, if you use an
HPxxxLX) continue to buy, sell, write software requiring, or simply
discuss DOS, it is still "current" and should be supported by system
manufacturers like HP, Intel, and (sorry, I am about to speak the "G"
word) bill gates.

I spin, the box breaks, and I move on.

Phil
>

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:58:35 -0500
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BTW my remark about buying up LX'es ... as I should not have written it.

Folks of this fine mailing list an occasional lurkers... Please pay
attention when responding to posts. The "Jorgen" that made the comments
regarding the PTP, is Jorgen Wallgren. The "Jorgen" that did not make the
comments is Jorgen Dybdahl.


an ill wind is blowing from from (the) Gates.

Very clever! Ill will from the Gates...I like description!

Alex Arancio
Trout, Segall & Doyle LLC

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        Realestateconsultant@erols.com (personal)

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 09:56:32 -0600
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To all;
Of my experience with the new dbl spd.  I got the new
dbl spd which I proceeded to load over the weekend.
Loading my personal goodies, I ran an old text editor
to edit my new auto and config files.  I got a cursor in
the upper left hand corner and the machine hangs, dead.
Nothing can get me out, no three finger or sft-on/off works.

The next morning, I try taking out all the batts and after
residual energy depleted, I get the boot.  Great, but C:
is now gone and now I'm in the process of reloading
everything from scratch.  I suspect its the speed (or
corrupted pgm) with some pgms that don't work, but in
a case like this you can't tell tilll you try.

The lesson from this is how to resolve the situation (with
a good recent back up on A:).

Any comments from anybody?

yor pal al.............................................................

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:12:24 -0600
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Don't see too much of a problem,
perchance I don't understand the problem.

How about one DB per patient and within
the DB, all the details is a seperate record by
nmonic title or date?

Or One DB for all patients (one  for In one for Out)
and in ea patient record have seperators as:
_____________ subject ot date ___________________
You can have 30 screens, is that enough.

Of course it'd be best to have several large
flash cards of 64M+
Don't forget to dump to desktop for BU and update.

yor pal al...........................................................

PS: where are you located?

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:33:40 -0500
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              mdstockr <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
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We have had several posting about potential problems with double speed upgrades.  Are all these problems
coming from one or different vendors?

I am thinking about upgrading my 200LX and I am wondering if anyone has run Lotus Agenda on a double speed
200LX?  And, if so, where there any problems with Agenda?

Thanks,
Michael
______________________________________________

  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           12/8/97 11:29:54 AM EST
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Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 1997 12:35:23 +0400
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              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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>Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
> Living in a region where severe lightnings are common (according
>to experts  approx 400 lightnings per year) my ISP warns its users
> to disconnect the telephone lines from the modem if not in use.
> Although I have my HP100LX not always connected to the telephone
>line that  is different with my other computers. Has anybody ever
>had lightning damage? >

Thanks for all your answers. Getting out the telephone line every time that
lightnings are expected (at least 200 days a year) would be the best thing
as I understood. But you know, the little plug at the back of the computer
is not very ideal for such a practice.
A surge protector on the telephone line would seem second best. What kind of
specs do I have to know? Is that the same thing that ACE formerly offered as
ModemSaver?

*no electrons were harmed in the posting of this message*

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Subject:      Re: topcards

On 1997-12-06 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
 HP>Can you tell me where you got the topcard switcher program?  And,
 HP>if they are available, I would like a copy of the topcards.

 HP>>*no electrons were harmed in the posting of this message*
Try the SUPER site.;-)


A little inaccuracy saves tons of explanation.

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Andy, Just a few thoughts...


I currently use a 4 page database file to follow my inpatients...

Would you be willing to post a template of your database on the SUPER site,
or on AOL, CIS, etc.?

Also, your use of the Palmtop is fascinating and would make a great User
Profile for the PTP. I wrote a User Profile a couple of years ago "Staying
Motivated, Organized and Informed" and can tell you that it helped a lot of
people.

Contact Hal Goldstien or Tom Gibson at Thaddeus for details if your
interested.

Alex Arancio
Trout, Segall & Doyle LLC

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Could this editor have attempted something that conflicted with the TSR
that manages the speed upgrade?
I have a Thaddeus x2/8meg and to date, the only thing I have seen in the
way of "weirdness" is that it slows down from time to time, causing me
to have to re-boot.  To this end, I modified my AUTOEXEC.BAT to record
every re-boot (or execution of the AUTOEXEC.BAT file) to a file
BOOTLOG.DOC.  Now I have a history, including a comment, of each
re-boot.  If I think it has become a problem I will ask Thaddeus about
it.  :)

Phil
BTW, I use several specialized programs to control/diagnose radio
systems, and to date none of them has crashed my x2/8meg.  I am also
using MAXDOS to "find" space for one of these applications.

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><snip> I ran an old text editor
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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:29:42 -0600
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I am using the Newton keyboard driver (0.5) with my HP 200 with good results.
The only problem I have seen is when using Buddy 3.0C, that the Macro labels
do not always appear.  I press the Newton Fn key (Apple+CapsLock) and about
half the time the macro labels do not appear.   Has any one else seen this and
or have any recommendations about this???

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:04:29 -0500
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I'd like to thank those of you who have sent me suggestions. I had tried most of those before I posted the query, but I still appreciate your efforts.

This past weekend another document has started to act up the same way. When I load it in, the 'modified' indicator stays lit, and when I exit or load another document, the app asks if I want to save it first.

I've rebooted several times. I've closed all other apps, same results.

I've looked at the hex dump, comparing with another document that works fine. No differences, besides the obvious difference in content.

There seems to be nothing wrong with the disk. I get the same behavior whether the file is on a flash card or the built-in RAM disk.

When I save the file in response to the prompt, the resulting file is byte-for-byte identical to the original. The new file also exhibits the same behavior.

The documents are definitely formatted. They print fine. The docs are English text, no accents or other diacriticals.

I've even used the DOCRTF program from S.U.P.E.R. to convert to RTF, load it in M$ Word, save it again as RTF, and DOCRTF it back to DOC format. Memo still leaves the modified indicator on. I think this rules out a funny byte somewhere in the file.

One thing the two misbehaving files have in common: they are the only two documents that are between 32k and 34k in size. Other documents may have had this problem before they grew beyond 34k. I've currently got over a dozen files, ranging from 18k to 40k.

However, it's not purely a matter of size. I just added a bunch of long, blank paragraphs, stopping occasionally to save and reload the file. Sometimes, it works fine. Even when the file got past 34k, sometimes it would not work right. Maybe it's a boundary condition on some internal buffer.

This isn't a show-stopper (yet). It's just an annoyance, not knowing for sure if I had made any changes or not. If I go ahead and save it the time stamp gets modified, and I later wonder what I had changed since the last time I printed it out. Yeah, I suppose I could use Database or Notetaker to track the latest change times to each doc, but...

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 09:04:56 -0800
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I'm considering getting one of the 8MB doublespeed HPs from Thaddeus but
have a question:  are there any incompatibilities I need to be aware of
with the doublespeed conversion?  Anyone know what the current price for
these units is?  I went to their homepage but didn't see a price.

Do their palmtops come with Software Carousel?

...lars

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:16:36 -0700
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I have an HP 9V AC adapter for my HP 95LX palmtop, and it is quite hefty.  I
had heard these palmtops will work just as well with 9V DC but a recent post
started me wondering about whether it matters if the post gets negative or
positive.  I have a selection of small 9V adapters, and some have positive on
the inside, while most have it on the outside.  Does anyone know if it matters,
and if it does, what the proper setup is?

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:49:47 -0500
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Does anyone know if it is possible to access a Lotus Notes server from a
100/200LX ? I am only concerned with the e-mail portion of Notes and not
the database functions.

TIA

Marc Maxwell

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:07:47 -0500
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On Sun, 7 Dec 1997 17:38:25 EST,
        DMRunge <DMRunge@AOL.COM> Wrote:

> I read that Stacker 4.0 requires 17kb of conventional RAM vs.
> about 21kb with
> Stacker 3.0 when using EMS as I intend to do.  Can anyone
> confirm this?

I don't know about 3.0, but 4.1 uses 33904bytes conventional &
65536bytes EMS.

> Also, one big reason I'd like to use 4.0 is because I think it
> might be able
> to provide an uncompressed and compressed portion of a flash
> card...

I have been able to have a compressed & uncompressed section of my C:\
using the SW or NS options in the STACKER.INI but it does not seem to
accept these options for a FLASH card.

> Also, I tried to install 4.0 using the commercial product for
> desktop machines
> but I had great difficulty...

There are two basic methods:

1- create a STACVOL.DSK on your desktop machine, then use LapLink(or
similar) to move that file as well as STACKER.COM & STACKER.INI to your
LX.

OR

2- copy STACKER.COM, CREATE.COM, SCREXEC.EXE, SCREXEC2.EXE to the LX
and type drivepath create a: /s=3D0 /r=3D2.5. You will also need=
 to
create a STACKER.INI file to mount the drive.

I will send you details on this method privately (Ian Melville wrote=
 it
up, and it is available on Mitch's archives by searching "STACker 4.x".
The message was from 3/10/97)

BTW: I think the only difference between v4.0 & 4.1 is W95 support.

Cheers,




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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:01:19 -0600
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Yes it does matter! I don't have a 95LX but in the manual it show tell
you if the post is negative or positive. Godd luck!


73 de KF4KGQ
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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 20:06:24 GMT
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On Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:50:57 +2000, cpwong wrote:

>So, the moral is that switching off is not enough, the plug has to be
>completely removed if you are living in the area like mine. (I'm living =
in a
>city where we even have a Insitute of Lighning Research which is just 15=
 km
>away...)

If you live in a high risk area, you should also consider unplugging
all the other leads from your computer - mouse, printer etc. A nearby
strike can induce very high voltages in these wires - they act like
aerials - which can still fry your computer even if the mains is
disconnected.

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:17:00 -0500
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Lars,

LO>I'm considering getting one of the 8MB doublespeed HPs from Thaddeus but
  >have a question:  are there any incompatibilities I need to be aware of
  >with the doublespeed conversion?  Anyone know what the current price for
  >these units is?  I went to their homepage but didn't see a price.

I bought one from Thaddeus about a month ago and am very happy with it.
 It DID crash as soon as I loaded a bunch of stuff onto the C drive,
came up with a hard re-boot and initialized the ram disk without even
asking.  That taught me a lesson and I re-organized a few things and
now keep most of my data on A:, apps on C:.  That hasn't happend again
though and I'm very happy.

LO>Do their palmtops come with Software Carousel?

No.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:19:48 -0800
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Well guys, I'm sorry to say I've fallen prey to the PalmPilot.  I held
out as long as I could, but for what I need, it's a better product.  So
now my trusty 200lx is for sale.  I wanted to offer it to you guys
before I "give" it to Thaddeus.

HP 200lx  2 meg.  Mint Condition.  Not a scratch!
Connectivity Kit w/cable
All manuals, no boxes though, sorry!
EB Leather Case, model 60  (I think)

$300.00 / BO

I also have a Serial to Parallel converter (the good one, no battery)
that I will sell for $50.

Please write to me directly.

Thanks
Raymond

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 23:45:09 +0100
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On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Bryan Pearson wrote:

> I have an HP 9V AC adapter for my HP 95LX palmtop, and it is quite hefty.  I
> had heard these palmtops will work just as well with 9V DC but a recent post
> started me wondering about whether it matters if the post gets negative or
> positive.  I have a selection of small 9V adapters, and some have positive on
> the inside, while most have it on the outside.  Does anyone know if it matters,
> and if it does, what the proper setup is?
>
I found this in one of the 95LX faqs:

<<<
Q21. What are the specs for the AC power supply?

A21. The HP AC adapters output 9 VAC, 13.5 VA max. The HP 95LX accepts
both AC and DC (either polarity).
>>>

The FAQ can be found at http://www.asta.uni-essen.de/~twahl/

Regards,

Laust
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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:57:36 -0600
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I believe a reconditioned one go for $575 and a new one is $795 (about).
Both with double speed and 8MB or RAM.

....but here is a waitlist for the reconditioned one.

800-373-6114 for info and details, go for it.

yor pal al......................

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:38:38 -0600
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I see no problem having a stacked file with the
unstacked host.   Just make a file smaller than
max size of the flashcard or drive.  You almost
always have an unstacked section anyway for
stacker and DOS utils plus the auto/config files.

yor pal al...............................

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:48:53 -0600
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Thanks for comments.  Good to hear that you have
had no problems.  Then I can look decisively at my
own doings instead of the THING.  Another good
thing is in the doing and being ore familar. with it.

yor pal al..................................


Could this editor have attempted something that conflicted
with the TSR that manages the speed upgrade?
I have a Thaddeus x2/8meg and to date, the only thing I
have seen in the way of "weirdness" is that it slows down
from time to time, causing me to have to re-boot.
To this end, I modified my AUTOEXEC.BAT to record
every re-boot (or execution of the AUTOEXEC.BAT file) to
a file BOOTLOG.DOC.  Now I have a history, including a
comment, of each re-boot.  If I think it has become a problem
I will ask Thaddeus about it.  :)

Phil
BTW, I use several specialized programs to control/diagnose radio
systems, and to date none of them has crashed my x2/8meg.  I am also
using MAXDOS to "find" space for one of these applications.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:20:00 -0500
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-> I believe a reconditioned one go for $575 and a new one is $795
-> (about). Both with double speed and 8MB or RAM.
->
-> ....but here is a waitlist for the reconditioned one.
->
-> 800-373-6114 for info and details, go for it.

It took about 2 weeks for my reconditioned one to arrive, and you know,
I couldn't tell it form a brand new unit.  How DO they do that? <g>

Jim Henry - System Administrator
AirPower Information Services

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Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 1997 09:56:16 +1100
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Rod, or anyone else, is it possible to use the newton keyboard on a win 95
machine. It would be perfect for the job, that I'm thinking of.

David

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Hello,

As the subject says, I'd like to know if anyone has gotten the freeware
EMS driver to work on a 6meg upgraded 200LX. I don't know much about the
HP's internals, so I'd rather not mess with it myself...

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 19:01:20 EST
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i recommend the times2tech double speed modification without hesitation.  i
have nothing to do with t2t, except for being a happy customer.

i have run many dos and 200lx specific program without a problem.

cordially

        lynn m. cavendish

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:49:44 -0600
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I was wondering the same thing.  Under the Accessibility Options (if you have
that installed) there is something about "SerialKey" support, which I believe
is a serial keyboard support.  I have searched the Web and didn't find and
didn't find any decent info on it, and the Microsoft site only has information
for their "premium support $$$" people.  Maybe their is a Newton keyboard
driver for that.

--- On Tue, 9 Dec 1997 09:56:16 +1100  David Green <dgreen@wr.com.au> wrote:
Rod, or anyone else, is it possible to use the newton keyboard on a win 95
machine. It would be perfect for the job, that I'm thinking of.

David
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<HTML>
i have a 320 LX with a flashdisk of 4 MB.&nbsp; i find that windows CE
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i need to run to enable the 320 LX to recognize the whole ramdisk as main
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lotus agenda runs quite nicely on my times2tech 2x 6meg machine.

i'm still learning, but the machine works just fine.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:39:23 +1300
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Is anyone on this list synchronising their HP100/200LX with MS Outlook.
Puma (Intellisync) doesn't do it and sound like they won't since it
means rewriting thier app as 32-bit.

I really need to be able to do this and if I can't with my 100 will need
to change to a 360 (or a PalmPilot).

I can do a one-time import from LX to Outlook if I had the time (in fact
I've done it in a rough way before) and going the other way (using CSV
output from Outlook and gdbio into the 100) isn't be too hard either.
This only gives a one-way dump to replace everything on the other end
and doesn't do record level (let alone field level) synchronisation. I
want to at least do record level synchronising.

Any help would be appreciated, particularly if you can point me to some
software to use.

Regards,
Stephen


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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 22:55:27 -0500
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C P Wong wrote:
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> I had the chance to work with some R&D guys (Taiwanese) on modem design and
> what I do know (I couldn't remember the details so there might be some
> boo-boo here):
> :
>
> 1. the phone line voltage is about 50VDC in my region and any thing higher
> than 100 volts kills your modem. Higher than that and you will have
> components on the modem getting fried.

It is important to remember that the telephone company puts 40-50 volts
DC on the telephone line to sense if the phone is removed from the hook.
When that happens,
the resistance of the telephone lines and the telephone instrument (or
modem) drop the voltage at the telephone set connections to say 8 volts
DC. The 5-10 ma. going through the line from the telco office to the
subscriber closes a relay at the office which calls up switching
equipment and gives you a dial tone. The signaling signal (bell) can
easily be about 100 volts at low frequency AC (16-20 cy,) This tells you
(or the fax machine or modem) to pick up the phone. These are all normal
signals on the system. The modem (or phone) has only a protective
varistor across the line with a capacitor and bell (or equivalent) until
the connect signal is given.
>
> 2. The modem (internal 33.6k and 56k) that I was working on has a capacitor
> of 500VDC as a surge protector of some sort in front of the modem circuit.
>
> 3. We are still getting modem fried esp. after a heavy thunderstorm with
> characteristic of no dial tone, fax ok but data part dead, etc.

When I was in Malaysia, there were heavy thunder stormes each afternoon.
The parts in the telephone or modem can only give a little protection.
Outside the building, the telco has a lightning arrestor, and a fuse on
each line. The lightning arrestor is connected to a ground. In my case,
this is a stake driven into the ground behind the house. I live in
Taiwan and where I live, the telephone circuits seem well done and well
installed. Much better than in Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA where GT&E has
the franchise. None of this is going to do any good against a direct
strike. It will help against an induced voltage as long as it is not too
large.

Keep in mind that the telephone was probably the first electrical device
in many homes. In the Western world the telephone came into peoples
homes at almost the same time as the tram or electric street car became
their transportation to work. These were powered by 500-600 volts DC.
The principal reason for the protection was if the overhead phone lines
got mixed with the overhead power lines for the electric street cars.
Thus, the lightning protector was set to arc at 500 volts and a
continued arc would cause it to short and open the fuse.
>
> 4. If a lightning hits a phone pole some miles away, your connected PC or
> whatever gets charred and that it.

As I said earlier, I had the modem in a fax machine burned out but have
not yet lost a modem or phone. If you get a driect strike, probably all
you will see is a black mess where your phone used to be. This does not
happen often.
>
> Got a friend whose house got hit (don't know how near but near enough) that
> his fridge,TV and everthing in-between was dead. I understand that his PC
> was plugged in but not switched on and afer the hit, the only thing that was
> working is his serial port mouse!
>
> So, the moral is that switching off is not enough, the plug has to be
> completely removed if you are living in the area like mine. (I'm living in a
> city where we even have a Insitute of Lighning Research which is just 15 km
> away...)

Perhaps they located the Institute of Lightning Research near where you
live because of the frequent occurence of lightning storms.
>
> cpwong
> Net-Tamer V 1.10.1 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
Best regards,

Art Borg

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I don't know if they are still in business, but, MacroMed sold a product
called
"Smart Rounds" for doctors. I only have the phone number but it is
(800-848-8726).

Best regards,

Art Borg

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THINGS YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW WITHOUT THE MOVIES

During all police investigations it will be necessary to visit a strip
club at least once.

All telephone numbers in America begin with the digits 555.

Most dogs are immortal.

If being chased through town, you can usually take cover in a passing
St. Patrick's Day parade - at any time of the year.

All beds have special L-shaped cover sheets which reach up to the armpit
level on a woman but only to waist level on the man lying beside her.

All grocery shopping bags contain at least one stick of French Bread.

It's easy for anyone to land a plane providing there is someone in the
control tower to talk you down.

Once applied, lipstick will never rub off - even while scuba diving.

The ventilation system of any building is the perfect hiding place.
No-one will ever think of looking for you in there and you can travel to
any other part of the building you want without difficulty.

If you need to reload your gun, you will always have more ammunition,
even if you haven't been carrying any before now.

You're very likely to survive any battle in any war unless you make the
mistake of showing someone a picture of your sweetheart back home.

Should you wish to pass yourself off as a German officer, it will not be
necessary to speak the language. A German accent will do.

If your town is threatened by an imminent natural disaster or killer
beast, the mayor's first concern will be the tourist trade or his
forthcoming art exhibition.

The Eiffel Tower can be seen from any window in Paris.

A man will show no pain while taking the most ferocious beating but will
wince when a woman tries to clean his wounds.

If a large pane of glass is visible, someone will be thrown through it
before long.

The Chief of Police is always black.

When paying for a taxi, don't look at your wallet as you take out a bill
- just grab one at random and hand it over. It will always be the exact
fare.

Interbreeding is genetically possible with any creature from elsewhere
in the universe.

Kitchens don't have light switches. When entering a kitchen at night,
you should open the fridge door and use that light instead.

If staying in a haunted house, women should investigate any strange
noises in their most revealing underwear.

Word processors never display a cursor on screen but will always say:
Enter Password Now.

Mothers routinely cook eggs, bacon and waffles for their family every
morning even though their husband and children never have time to eat
it.

Cars that crash will almost always burst into flames.

The Chief of Police will always suspend his star detective - or give him
48 hours to finish the job.

A single match will be sufficient to light up a room the size of RFK
Stadium.

Medieval peasants had perfect teeth.

Although in the 20th century it is possible to fire weapons at an object
out of our visual range, people of the 23rd century will have lost this
technology.

Any person waking from a nightmare will sit bolt upright and pant.

It is not necessary to say hello or goodbye when beginning or ending
phone conversations.

Even when driving down a perfectly straight road it is necessary to turn
the steering wheel vigorously from left to right every few moments.

All bombs are fitted with electronic timing devices with large red
readouts so you know exactly when they're going to go off.

It is always possible to park directly outside the building you are
visiting.

A detective can only solve a case once he has been suspended from duty.

If you decide to start dancing in the street, everyone you bump into
will know all the steps.

Most laptop computers are powerful enough to override the communication
systems of any invading alien civilization.

It does not matter if you are heavily outnumbered in a fight involving
martial arts - your enemies will wait patiently to attack you one by one
by dancing around in a threatening manner until you have knocked out
their predecessors.

When a person is knocked unconscious by a blow to the head, they will
never suffer a concussion or brain damage.

No-one involved in a car chase, hijacking, explosion, volcanic eruption
or alien invasion will ever go into shock.

Police Departments give their officers personality tests to make sure
they are deliberately assigned a partner who is their total opposite.

When they are alone, all foreigners prefer to speak English to each
other.

You can always find a chainsaw when you need one.

Any lock can be picked by a credit card or a paper clip in seconds
-unless it's the door to a burning building with a child trapped inside.

An electric fence, powerful enough to kill a dinosaur will cause no
lasting damage to an eight year old child.

Television news bulletins usually contain a story that affects you
personally at that precise moment.

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 20:52:06 -0500
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>Would someone define "dead" as used when referring to the status of OS,
>software, or anything else.  I'm quite clear on "dead" as it applies to
>animals and plants.

Sure, it is regrettably dead in terms of marketing value - something
computer companies seems to find important.

It is very much alive in practical use. My 686 with W95 actually boots
directly to DOS as that is where I prefer to be.

Jorgen (me, not the other one)

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>I am thinking about upgrading my 200LX and I am wondering if anyone has run
Lotus Agenda on a double speed
>200LX?  And, if so, where there any problems with Agenda?
>
>Thanks,
>Michael

I run Agenda on a Times2Tech speed doubled machine.  Works beautifully.


David

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 23:01:01 GMT
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All these DOS is dead posts are for me Deja vue time and time again.

Since I use OS/2 as my main operating system, I read about death reports
every other day of the week. Reports about the death of OS/2 have been
appearing since something like 5 years ago...

This in spite of native software being developed for it, now more than
ever before. Super stellar support and improvements by IBM, Active and
supportive user community, pioneering innovations, etc

I see it as the the marketing forces (and not the market) wanting us to
move to the next big thing, up to the next big thing, and the next, ad
infinitum...

The fact is: Dos is NOT DEAD. period!

While there are users like us, pushing our machines to the limit in
every conceivable way, making creative uses for it, adapting old
software to new environments then DOS is alive !

Ultimately it depends on the users, not on some stupid magazine report!

And judging from this list. DOS is not only alive, its kicking ...



Shafik Mahomad
-----------------> Deliriously happy with OS/2 !
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  > Can you tell us how you use PGP with Info Select?

I automate it with a simple .bat file.  BTW- the "tch" in the encrypt
command line is my pgp key id.  It encrypts the file using my public key
without me having to provide any input.


@echo off
zoom c8
a:
cd\is

:decrypt
  echo decrypting !.pgp...
  pgp -o !.wd !.pgp
  del !.pgp
  echo ...done
  echo.

:start IS and load !.wd
  is n L!

:encrypt
  echo encrypting !.wd...
  pgp -ew -o !.pgp !.wd tch
  del !.wd
  echo ...done


--
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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:41:37 -0800
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> On the contrary, I would say. NT has the
>advantage of multitasking, better use of resources, etc. You can do this
>with dos multitaskers/taskswitchers, but it is not as effective. This is
>not to say that I am a 95/NT convert :-) My Word Processor of choice is
>still Word Perfect v5.1 for DOS, and it doesn't look as if I'm going to
>change soon.


>DOS is dead, as far as mainstream use goes. The reason it is supported in
>NT is that a huge amount of software exists for DOS, software that has not
>yet, or might never, be written as native NT applications. DOS has been
>reduced to being used for special purposes, such as on small computers
>(the palmtops). On a modern day desktop computer, an application running
>under DOS has no advantages over the same application written as an 95/NT
>app, running under 95/NT.

No, there are advantages:

For small utility programs or tutorials that don't need fancy graphics,
DOS is simply much better and faster than Windows.

1)  The application can be *written* much faster, hence the application
may spring to life rather than just being a possibility that is never
realized.

2)  The application is more portable.  I can put it on a diskette
and easilly move it to another machine as needed and do this
quickly.  I don't have to deal with a long, complicated windows
install and worry about dlls, the registry, initialization files, etc.

3) I can *easily* distribute the application via email since it is
so small compared to a windows application.  (I'm doing that
now with EAR.EXE, an ear training program for musician
and music students.)

4) It's possible to automate things with DOS in ways that you can't
with Windows.  That's because you can easily capture and
scan text on a DOS screen, but that's nearly impossible with
Windows because the text is really a bit map.  With windows,
I need to click here and click there, highlight this and drag it
there, etc., again and again.  It's very a manual and tedius process
and it can't be easily automated even with tools like Winbatch.

With DOS, I just enter a keyword and that's it.  The Batch
process or agent system takes over and does the rest.

I actually use small DOS utilties quite a lot as control programs
in the building of GUI applications for Windows NT.

We're still building a GUI application for Windows NT at work.
If we had written it in DOS, in my humble option, we would have
finished it about 6 months ago (at least!) and the application would
do essential the same thing as the Windows version without the benefit
of all of the GPFs.

>
>The advantage of using DOS on a palmtop, as opposed to a custom made OS,
>is the large amount of software already written and just as importantly
>the large amount of availiable programming languages. That I could run
>Pascal, Forth, and a few more obscure languages (ML, anyone?) languages on
>my 200LX was one of the main reasons I bought it. I was rather tempted by
>the Psion 5 series, but it simply didn't have enough programming languages
>availiable and the ones that were, were either cross-platform or costed
>money... A lot of DOS software is free. (It did have a Sinclair Spectrum
>emulator... something I really miss on the 200LX ;-)  I think the Spectrum
>was called the Timex in the States BTW.)
>
>Well, it seems I have gotten a bit off subject here. Oh, well... ;-)
>
>Regards,
>
>Laust
>
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> ///  Laust Brock-Nannestad - laustbn@diku.dk  -  HPLX+C64+SID   ///
>/// "Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes."             ///
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Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:52:42 -0800
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I'd like to add this list to my DOS thought for the day program
(THOUGHT.EXE) Who is the author?


At 05:39 PM 12/9/97 -0800, Richard Bueker wrote:
>THINGS YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW WITHOUT THE MOVIES
>
>During all police investigations it will be necessary to visit a strip
>club at least once.
>
>All telephone numbers in America begin with the digits 555.
>
>Most dogs are immortal.
>
>If being chased through town, you can usually take cover in a passing
>St. Patrick's Day parade - at any time of the year.
>

etc.

Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
Phil Seyer (415) 665-8933, ext. 333

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Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 21:51:53 -0500
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>Date:    Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:39:32 +1100
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>
>Dear Philip Seyer,
>
>You are guilty of lots of quoting, including 2 of the
>         'post no binaries, because they use lots of memory' tags.
>
>I hearby sentence you to receive one `very mild flame'. This is it! :)
>
>
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>Brendan Macmillan              PROJECT: Using information theory (MML)
to
>bren@cs.monash.edu.au                   evaluate models of nursery rhyme
>http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren       melodies; and then compose
tunes.
>
Actually, there were 3, but who's counting? ;#)

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> >You are guilty of lots of quoting, including 2 of the
> >         'post no binaries, because they use lots of memory' tags.
> >
> >I hearby sentence you to receive one `very mild flame'. This is it! :)

> Actually, there were 3, but who's counting? ;#)
Ahem. 2 quoted, one automatically appended.     :P

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Well it finally came home to me what everyone's been talking about.  I
called Puma (and after 25 minutes on hold) talked to one of their
technicians.  I don't even know if he had heard of the 200LX.  Said that
all their efforts are being spent towards WinCE (wince).  I had
downloaded a version of their IntelliSynch and it came with a couple of
crippled version Appointments and Phone Book Applications that Hewlett
Packard must have licenced to Puma.    They look good on the screen, but
one problem is that the Notes field in the Phone Book cannot be made
"full screen" so therefore is virtually unreadable and worthless.
And of course no Data Base or Notebook functions.

Would like to hear about what others are using.  Makes the old HP DOS
Connectivity Pack look good when you see what's out there.

But transfering files is not synch-ing.

Les
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The Enlightened man does not trouble himself whether DOS is dead or not.
He merely sits quitely by a stream, perhaps with a small etext of poetry,
enjoying DOS to his heart's content.
        - from "The DOS is Silent", a paraphrase

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Virtually all (maybe all) people on this list us the HP95LX, HP100LX,
or HP200LX. Virtually all (maybe all) people on this list think the
HP320LX sucks, and they know nothing else about it.

Try your question on newsgroups:
comp.sys.handhelds
alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp
microsoft.public.windowsce
comp.sys.palmtops

Best regards,

Duane Edgington


Benito Yu C. B. wrote:
>
> i have a 320 LX with a flashdisk of 4 MB.  i find that windows CE
> recognizes the flashdisk only as a ramdisk.  What memory manager do i
> need to run to enable the 320 LX to recognize the whole ramdisk as
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I accidently posted some jokes about movies here. I meant to forward
them to some friends and I included this list by mistake. Again, my
apologies.

                Richard Bueker

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Actually, IMHO, the jokes were a nice break from the usual technical
questions and answers and the debating we have here on the list :) And
now... back to the show!!!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd

    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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I haven't heard of them  (too young I guess?), and I am wondering what
games or apps are out there to run with what emulator... Anyone?
Thanks,
Jay Gates

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What Emulator?  I know there is an emulator for the ZX Spectrum for the
Series 5 but hadnt heard of one for the HP 100/200 series.

Dan
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>
> I haven't heard of them  (too young I guess?), and I am wondering what
> games or apps are out there to run with what emulator... Anyone?

ZX-SPectrum came out in 1982.

There are several DOS emulators (pre-dates the Psion one); not specific
for the hp200lx. The one I tried ran *slow*.

There are more ZX-Spectrum games out there on the Web than you can
poke a stick at. But don't bother - they mainly have nostagia value,
for us old-timers. (How can I possibly be an `old-timer'?)

Do a web search.  It's just as quick as me digging out the web addresses,
from where-ever they are.

Once you know something exists, you can find it real quick with a web
search. Ask again if you have trouble.


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Hi Everyone,

Sorry for the late posting of this one.

On Friday, 28 November 1997, Art Borg said:

<snip>

> There is another point that could be mentioned.  Someone recently
>mentioned that his lithium backup battery has never been changed.
>He is on very dangerous ground.  With time, all batteries tend to
>dry up and lose the ability to supply current.  The terminal voltage
>remains high but when called on to deliver electricity, they fail.
>It is much better to replace the backup battery each year as HP
>suggests.

> If there is someone who is familiar with the internals of the HP
> 200LX power supply, inquiring minds would like to know what is in
> the thing.

I am the person with the "magic" backup battery!  I appreciate your
concern, so I thought that your mind should be put partly to rest;
but first of all, let me confirm that my backup battery has never been
changed and at the time of writing has a recorded voltage of 2.99,
measured on more than one system.

While I am not disagreeing with what you said, for ages I have been
carrying around a new backup battery just in case.  I also carry spare
main batteries and regularly check the voltage of both kinds, always
changing the normal batteries the moment that there is a warning.

Also, lithium batteries are renowned for their long shelf life.

Finally, I make regular data backups as an ultimate precaution.

I am genuinely intrigued to find out just how long the backup battery
will last; it's not just that my Scottish background has made me too
mean to replace it!  In our local user's group one member has
complained that his backup batteries are forever being used up.  I
suspect that there is a fault in his system.  My Palmtop is in regular
use every day, so it's not just a question of the backup battery never
seeing any action, either.

I suspect that this type of lithium battery may be capable of taking
up a limited charge.  Also, in measuring the voltage of many of this
type of cell, I have found one with a slight reversed charge.  If we
don't experiment carefully, we'll never get an answer.  When I get my
new 200LX, I shall keep the old backup battery in the old 100LX and
continue the experiment.  One day I'll let you all know the result.

Anyway, thanks again for your concern.

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX

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I have the same need, and it does not look like it is available unless
you stay with Exchange and Schedule+, not Outlook.   As you say, unless
Puma do it there does not seem to be any other product or shareware.

It seems to imply that the Puma software is not very modular..as they do
support Outlook for the Palm Pilot, and they have a perfectly good
interface to the HP200LX.  You'd think they could just glue the two
halves together.

William D.Ll.Brown

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Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 1997 20:27:42 +0800
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>Folks of this fine mailing list an occasional lurkers... Please pay
>attention when responding to posts. The "Jorgen" that made the comments
>regarding the PTP, is Jorgen Wallgren. The "Jorgen" that did not make the
>comments is Jorgen Dybdahl.

Who have used MY name when giving comments about the PTP????? I (Jorgen
Wallgren) have not sent in any e-mail with comments about PTP- which by the
way is a GREAT magazine!!!! However, there is to much of Win CE talk in it-
I agree!

Regards,

Jorgen WALLGREN

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I would like to keep my HP200LX - but if nobody comes up with a
resolution to sync between HP PIM and Outlook I have to switch over :-(

Regards
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Duane Edgington wrote:

> Virtually all (maybe all) people on this list us the HP95LX, HP100LX,
> or HP200LX. Virtually all (maybe all) people on this list think the
> HP320LX sucks, and they know nothing else about it.
>
> Try your question on newsgroups:
> comp.sys.handhelds
> alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp
> microsoft.public.windowsce
> comp.sys.palmtops
>
> Best regards,
>
> Duane Edgington
>



well i had a 95LX, I had a 100LX, I still have my 200LX, and none of
them suck.  can't you tell how much i love these HP palmtops?

the question still stands.

best regards. bycb

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On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Philip Seyer wrote:

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> No, there are advantages:
>
> For small utility programs or tutorials that don't need fancy graphics,
> DOS is simply much better and faster than Windows.
>

Yes, utilities are *usually* smaller under DOS. This can be
very annoying; I once went looking for a program that could disable/enable
the screen saver in Win95 (a systray thingy). I found one, but it was a
800Kb download! I never downloaded it, but found another instead. The
other one was under 80Kb... This is just one example. I have several
utilities for windows that are small in size, just as their DOS
equivalents would be.
(But, yes, I have to agree. Overall, Windows programs are larger than
their DOS counterparts).


> 1)  The application can be *written* much faster, hence the application
> may spring to life rather than just being a possibility that is never
> realized.
>
> 2)  The application is more portable.  I can put it on a diskette
> and easilly move it to another machine as needed and do this
> quickly.  I don't have to deal with a long, complicated windows
> install and worry about dlls, the registry, initialization files, etc.
>
I haven't verified this, but I don't think that todays programs are much
bigger than their DOS counterparts, when you take the increase in memory,
diskspace, CPU speed, etc. into consideration. It is just that the
disk-drive haven't increased in capacity along with the other hardware.

> 3) I can *easily* distribute the application via email since it is
> so small compared to a windows application.  (I'm doing that
> now with EAR.EXE, an ear training program for musician
> and music students.)
>

Please remember that I was talking about mainstream software (graphics,
word processing, office packs, etc). If I understand you right, EAR is
more of a hobby program? (Don't take this the wrong way. I'm not implying
anything about the quality of your program, nor is it my intention to
insult you. I merely meant that a program such as yours would probably
be bought by single users, not by companies.)

> 4) It's possible to automate things with DOS in ways that you can't
> with Windows.  That's because you can easily capture and
> scan text on a DOS screen, but that's nearly impossible with
> Windows because the text is really a bit map.  With windows,
> I need to click here and click there, highlight this and drag it
> there, etc., again and again.  It's very a manual and tedius process
> and it can't be easily automated even with tools like Winbatch.

Text isn't always a bitmap, but overall I have to agree, batch-processing
in Windows is harder than in DOS. OTOH, Windows applications interact and
exchange data better than their DOS counterparts as they are, so there is
less need for filters, fileconverters and batch processing.

> With DOS, I just enter a keyword and that's it.
The Batch > process or agent system takes over and does the rest.
>

You still have a CLI under NT and under 95. Several enhanced CLI shells
also exist. 4DOS is pretty good (I use it myself).

> I actually use small DOS utilties quite a lot as control programs
> in the building of GUI applications for Windows NT.
>
> We're still building a GUI application for Windows NT at work.
> If we had written it in DOS, in my humble option, we would have
> finished it about 6 months ago (at least!) and the application would
> do essential the same thing as the Windows version without the benefit
> of all of the GPFs.

GPFs under NT? I've never encountered one. Besides, I would have thought
that MS would have called it something else as it was under Win 3.0 ;-)

snip

I would still say that the DOS market is pretty much dead. This is not to
say that DOS software is not being used or developed. Heck, I know people
who use their old Commodore machines for Internet, Word Processing, etc. I
simply mean that DOS isn't the place where you will a lot of money and
that the larger companies have abandoned the market (some) completely.
Still, for hobby programmers and people with older machines, DOS is great,
as I mentioned in my earlier post.

Regards,

Laust
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Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:56:51 +0100
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On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Brendan Macmillan wrote:


Let me just add a little to Brendan's post

> >
> > I haven't heard of them  (too young I guess?), and I am wondering what
> > games or apps are out there to run with what emulator... Anyone?

Believe me, there are no apps that you'd want to run on the emulator...
either they are not worth it or better DOS versions exist... or both!
>
> ZX-SPectrum came out in 1982.
>
> There are several DOS emulators (pre-dates the Psion one); not specific
> for the hp200lx. The one I tried ran *slow*.
>
There is one called ZX that runs faster than 25%... It can be found at
ftp://ftp.nvg.unit.no/pub/sinclair/emulators/spectrum/pc/dos/
zxspectrum_v3_67.zip
(all on one line!)

It is not perfect, and for some odd reason it always starts up in VGA
mode, meaning that you won't see anything on screen. Pressing F10 will
bring up a menu, where you can change it to CGA.

There is one other emulator (in the same dir) that I would really like to
get running. It is called Warajevo and it is *much* faster than anything
else I have seen. It always crashes, but I don't know why. Perhaps someone
on the list is feeling adventurous enough to try it out? (It crashes, but
hasn't erased my RAM-disk... yet!). If someone can get it running, I'd be
eternally grateful... Well, almost.

> There are more ZX-Spectrum games out there on the Web than you can
> poke a stick at. But don't bother - they mainly have nostagia value,
> for us old-timers. (How can I possibly be an `old-timer'?)
>
> Do a web search.  It's just as quick as me digging out the web addresses,
> from where-ever they are.

The FAQ can be found at:

http://www.kendalls.demon.co.uk/cssfaq/index.html

Regards,

Laust
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Duane Edgington wrote:

> Virtually all (maybe all) people on this list us the HP95LX, HP100LX,
> or HP200LX. Virtually all (maybe all) people on this list think the
> HP320LX sucks, and they know nothing else about it.


Hey, I had both a 95LX and a 100LX, then a Zaurus 5800 (well, anyone can make a mistake), and I now have the 320LX. For my
needs, this is the best machine that I have ever used. The ability to seamlessly port Excel and Word 97 files back and forth
is what I had hoped for with the the Zaurus (and didn't get), but the 320LX is perfect.

I loved the 95 and 100, I have been a loyal HP user for years, from the the HP-25 onwards to the HP48GX and the LXs, but life
goes on... I'm happy to progress.

Imagine your chagrin had you asked a question about your 95/100/200LX and gotten the reply that you posted. Lighten up, Duane,
others can have just as much passion and inquisitiveness about their machine as you do for yours. These lists are to quench
that thirst for knowledge.

--
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Simon Hughes, Manager of Planning
Shaw Cablesystems
234 Newkirk Rd., Richmond Hill
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I have been running Lotus Agenda using a 12MB ATA flash card from Pretec on a stock 4MB 200LX.

With Agenda and it's data files stored on the flash card, it was VERY SLOW!  Things where to the point where I
was seriously thinking about getting the 2X upgrade.

Lynn Canvendish provided me with some performance figures on a 8MB 2X 200LX and Agenda was running over twice
as fast as on my stock palmtop.

Last night I moved all of my Agenda program and data files onto C: drive, and checked performance.  Now Agenda
is running twice as fast as previously.  The following are the benchmark figures:


                         MY        MY       LYNN'S
            Config:     STOCK     STOCK       2X
             Drive:      A:        C:         A:
                        -----     -----     -----
             Start:      25         7        13 sec
         Load file:      21         9         9 sec
  Save file & quit:      14         9         7 sec

RECOMMENDATION: If running a stock 200LX and if you have room on your C: drive, run Agenda off of C: drive to
get acceptable performance, unless your A: drive is a SRAM card.  In other words, do not run Agenda off an ATA
flash card unless you have the 2X upgrade.

______________________________________________

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           12/9/97 9:31:29 AM EST
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I think so too, the main thing I use it for is the appointments.  I want
to start to use MS Team Manager too, that makes heavy use of the ToDo in
Schedule+ or Calendar.  And BTW when I try to import ToDo using
Intellilink it crashes.

But where else can I have the 'instant on', long battery life (so long I
can't tell you how long) and all those other nice software.  I think
Psion 5 beckons, once they have Outlook synch (which they are writing).
But $$$ so I will have to see if the company will buy it.

William D.Ll.Brown

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>Folks of this fine mailing list an occasional lurkers... Please pay
>attention when responding to posts. The "Jorgen" that made the comments
>regarding the PTP, is Jorgen Wallgren. The "Jorgen" that did not make the
>comments is Jorgen Dybdahl.

I think you're mistaken. The list archives for Dec. 6 and Dec. 8 shows the
posts did come from JD.

Hope I'm not committing a breach of Netiquette by pointing this out, but
I'll take my lumps (as with all of you) if I'm wrong or responded out of
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Two problems. Flash memory is much slower that semiconductor
ram,
particularly when writing. Your ATA disk emulates a hard
disk and is
addressable by sector, ... Some applications (perhaps not
the organizer
functions in the CE) can use the flashdisk for file storage.

Benito Yu C. B. wrote:

>  i have a 320 LX with a flashdisk of 4 MB.  i find that
> windows CE recognizes the flashdisk only as a ramdisk.
> What memory manager do i need to run to enable the 320 LX
> to recognize the whole ramdisk as main memory?

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Time for a funny!


A man was crossing a road one day when a frog called out to him and
said, "If you kiss me, I'll turn into a beautiful princess." He
bent over, picked up the frog, and put it in his pocket.

The frog spoke up again and said, "If you kiss me and turn me back
into a beautiful princess, I will tell everyone how smart and brave you
are and how you are my hero." The man took the frog out of his pocket,
smiled at it, and returned it to his pocket.

The frog spoke up again and said, "If you kiss me and turn me back into
a beautiful princess, I will be your loving companion for an entire
week." The man took the frog out of his pocket, smiled at it, and
returned it to his pocket.

The frog then cried out, "If you kiss me and turn me back into a
princess, I'll stay with you for a year and do ANYTHING you want."
Again the man took the frog out, smiled at it, and put it back into his
pocket.

Finally, the frog asked, "What is the matter? I've told you I'm a
beautiful princess, that I'll stay with you for a year and do anything
you want. Why won't you kiss me?"

The man said, "Look, I'm a computer programmer. I don't have time for a
girlfriend, but a talking frog is cool."

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Hi!
   I've been really busy lately, and I didn't have much time to post
messages to the list (sorry) But here comes something very important to
me: What are the pros and the cons of an internal memory upgrade
compared to a memory card? What are the speed differences?
Andres.

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Date:    Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:49:47 -0500
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>Does anyone know if it is possible to access a Lotus Notes server from a
>100/200LX ? I am only concerned with the e-mail portion of Notes and not
>the database functions.
Nope, I guess the only way is to use a notebook or the PC110, which I use personally
for my company's notes server. The PC110 is a 486sx-33 palmtop (about the same
size as the HP200LX), and I have 20Meg on it, running OS/2 Warp 4 and Notes 4.5. So if
you want, I can send you more info? Please post me off the list if so.
... You said Windows was a Power Tool???

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Fair enough. Sorry I snapped at you, Benito. It was uncalled for. Hope
you get a helpful answer to your HP320LX question, either from here or
another forum.

Duane

Benito Yu C. B. wrote:
>
> Duane Edgington wrote:
>
> > Virtually all (maybe all) people on this list us the HP95LX, HP100LX,
> > or HP200LX. Virtually all (maybe all) people on this list think the
> > HP320LX sucks, and they know nothing else about it.
> >
> > Try your question on newsgroups:
> > comp.sys.handhelds
> > alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp
> > microsoft.public.windowsce
> > comp.sys.palmtops
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Duane Edgington
> >
>
> well i had a 95LX, I had a 100LX, I still have my 200LX, and none of
> them suck.  can't you tell how much i love these HP palmtops?
>
> the question still stands.
>
> best regards. bycb

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Here's a statment that I'm sure Bill Gates would like to take back. From the Micro$oft FORTRAN PowerStation 1.0 box:

 "How much more data could you analyuze or model if
 you spent less time programming? With Microsoft FORTRAN
 PowerStation, you'll know: Develop 32-bit applications
 in Windows(TM) for pure productivity, then run in
 MS-DOS(R) for pure speed."

The last two words seem to underline some of the recent discussions on this list.

The box is (C)Copyright 1993 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

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Virtually all (maybe all) people on this list use the HP95LX,
 HP100LX, or HP200LX. Virtually all (maybe all) people on
this list think the HP320LX sucks, and they know nothing
 else about it.

Not exactly. I don't think people (especially) on this list
rejected it simply because they know nothing about it. On
the contrary, but............

You may be right and that's a good reason to get the 320.
I need to run DOS and run its apps.  Its OS will not run my
DOS apps will it?  If it will, I'd have been the first to have
gotten it.  The fact is, it does suck, glad you like it tho.
enjoy.

yor pal al.....................................

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   >> How fast was the Psion version? and how accurate was the graphics
   >>emulation?  (This is what slows it down.)
   >I haven't seen the emulator in action, but I got the impression
   >that it ran at least full speed, except when there was a lot of
   >moving graphics.
I have an emulator wich emulates a psion series 3a on a PC. I don't know of
this is the emulator you're talking about. The on I have needs at least an
80386 processor and 4 megs of mem. Since an 200/700LX doesn't meet this
system config. this emulator doesn't work on my palmtop. Anyone who has an
other psion-emulator, or mannaged to solve this problem, please let me know!

Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

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Subject:      something wrong?

Recently I receive some of the mailings from the list twice. Not all, just
some. Is there anyone else having this problem, or is it my ISP having some
problems. (Their mailserver crashed end of November; Don't remember when the
problems started). If I am the only one I'll complain to my ISP, but since I
only receive e-mails from the list on this account, I want to make sure:-)

Any replies are welcome.

BTW: Anyone using comlink on the 100/200/700LX? I have some problems: total
lockup :-(


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Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:37:03 -0500
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Is it possible to install a memory upgrade in a 100LX? I seem to remember a
thread about what was and wasn't an acceptable candidate for an upgrade.

TIA

Marc Maxwell

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Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:44:50 -0500
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> Is anyone on this list synchronising their HP100/200LX with MS Outlook.

Stephen, let me know what you find out and I'll do the same. I have the
same need as you do. Although, I'll never give my 200LX for anything
ever!!!!!!!!!!

Alex Arancio
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        OH MY LORD!

>I think you're mistaken. The list archives for Dec. 6 and Dec. 8 shows the
posts did come from JD.

Well, you're not mistaken...I was. I was referring to a different posting
when I made the comment about the two Jorgens. Since I was not very clear
in my explanation, and this is all very non-productive, I would appreciate
it if you fine folks would drop the subject.

I've always regarded the folks that frequent this list to be very busy and
involved people. I think I am mistaken since the number of people who have
sent me flaming spams and other corrections is so pathetic, it proves that
maybe...just maybe...there are a few of us that have too much time on their
hands...me included. If I notice some mis-information that is not relevant
to the Palmtop in the future, rest assured I will ignore it.

Some of you people need to grow up, get a life and just plain relax. Those
of you who publicly sent me a correction, I appreciate your kindness. Those
of you who sent me flaming spams privately, should have their <ENTER> key
surgically removed!

Hope I'm not committing a breach of Netiquette by pointing this out,

No breach in netiquette...I thank you and the 25 other messages I received
with kindness. The 15 or so that lost it...well...don't be surprised when
Santa gives you a bag of coal this year.

Alex Arancio
Trout, Segall & Doyle LLC

Email:  store4u@troutsegall.com (business)
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Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:57:29 -0800
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If I recall correctly from the time2 people, the 100LX's memory is =
totally non-upgradeable. Only the late 200LX are upgradeable. Both =
machine are upgradeable from the crystal point of view though. Someone =
please correct me if I am wrong.

George



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Is it possible to install a memory upgrade in a 100LX? I seem to =
remember a
thread about what was and wasn't an acceptable candidate for an upgrade.

TIA

Marc Maxwell

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:56:02 +1300
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Nicholas Chan wrote:

> >Does anyone know if it is possible to access a Lotus Notes server from a
> >100/200LX ?

> Nope, I guess the only way is to use a notebook or the PC110, which I use personally
> for my company's notes server. The PC110 is a 486sx-33 palmtop (about the same
> size as the HP200LX),

Hi Nicholas & List
I am not impressed by your deception on the size of the PC110 that you
are advertising on this mailList.
The HP200LX is 160x86x25mm and 329gm
the PC110   is 158x113x33mm at 630gm
The PC110 is 25% larger and twice as heavy which is NOT "about the
same"!
(with no PIM or instant on)

In my opinion getting useful facts about similar machines to the HP200LX
on this HPLX mailingList is useful but repeated deceptive advertising
for
different products is not.

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Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:56:14 -0600
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I think you can upgrade memory, but not 2x the speed.

Marc Maxwell wrote:

> Is it possible to install a memory upgrade in a 100LX? I seem to remember a
> thread about what was and wasn't an acceptable candidate for an upgrade.
>
> TIA
>
> Marc Maxwell
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I think I am, but maybe it is just marking the already read as unread.

Bas Pruijn wrote:

> Recently I receive some of the mailings from the list twice. Not all, just
> some. Is there anyone else having this problem, or is it my ISP having some
> problems. (Their mailserver crashed end of November; Don't remember when the
> problems started). If I am the only one I'll complain to my ISP, but since I
> only receive e-mails from the list on this account, I want to make sure:-)
>
> Any replies are welcome.
>
> BTW: Anyone using comlink on the 100/200/700LX? I have some problems: total
> lockup :-(
>
> Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive
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Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:13:18 -0800
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Hi,

I am having a problem with NetTamer 1.10 on my 100LX. Here are the
hardware details:  - V1.04a BIOS, 1Mb 100LX  - 2Mb SRAM card  - HP serial
cable with adapters  - external USR Courier V.everything x2 modem

I config NetTamer according to instructions and connect successfully.
(BTW, I am running NetTamer from outside SysMgr. I terminated SysMgr
before running NT.) I can pick up mail, browse and telnet and I was
really impressed with what can done. BUT when I go to disconnect from my
ISP, the 100LX, after successfully hanging up the modem, locks up
completely . The machine is so locked up that I have to pull both the
main and the backup batteries to recover. I have sent mail to
nettamer@nettamer.net but gotten no replies. Any other suggestions/fixes?
I note that most people that are successfully running NetTamer are on
200LX. Is there any 100LX owners running NetTamer?

Other than this rather fatal problem, I look forward to using it. I also
tried installing it on my desktop machine and I was quite happy with what
it could do. But I think I will have to get a flash card to do anything
substantial like Usenet.

George

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Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:44:25 -0800
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I use nettamer on an HP 100LX all the time. I use a megahertz PCMCIA modem
though. I hae used an external modem without any problems. Could it be that
you have a corrupted nettamer or one of its files?





At 02:13 PM 12/9/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am having a problem with NetTamer 1.10 on my 100LX. Here are the
>hardware details:  - V1.04a BIOS, 1Mb 100LX  - 2Mb SRAM card  - HP serial
>cable with adapters  - external USR Courier V.everything x2 modem
>
>I config NetTamer according to instructions and connect successfully.
>(BTW, I am running NetTamer from outside SysMgr. I terminated SysMgr
>before running NT.) I can pick up mail, browse and telnet and I was
>really impressed with what can done. BUT when I go to disconnect from my
>ISP, the 100LX, after successfully hanging up the modem, locks up
>completely . The machine is so locked up that I have to pull both the
>main and the backup batteries to recover. I have sent mail to
>nettamer@nettamer.net but gotten no replies. Any other suggestions/fixes?
>I note that most people that are successfully running NetTamer are on
>200LX. Is there any 100LX owners running NetTamer?
>
>Other than this rather fatal problem, I look forward to using it. I also
>tried installing it on my desktop machine and I was quite happy with what
>it could do. But I think I will have to get a flash card to do anything
>substantial like Usenet.
>
>George
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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 01:17:41 +0100
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On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Bas Pruijn wrote:

>    >> How fast was the Psion version? and how accurate was the graphics
>    >>emulation?  (This is what slows it down.)
>    >I haven't seen the emulator in action, but I got the impression
>    >that it ran at least full speed, except when there was a lot of
>    >moving graphics.
> I have an emulator wich emulates a psion series 3a on a PC. I don't know of
> this is the emulator you're talking about. The on I have needs at least an
> 80386 processor and 4 megs of mem. Since an 200/700LX doesn't meet this
> system config. this emulator doesn't work on my palmtop. Anyone who has an
> other psion-emulator, or mannaged to solve this problem, please let me know!
>
We were talking about a Spectrum emulator for the Psion series 5, not a
Psion emulator :-)
A Psion emulator for the palmtop doesn't exist and it probably never
will... That RISC processor in the Psion packs quite a punch!

Regards,

Laust
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> Recently I receive some of the mailings from the list twice. Not all, just
> some.

If someone replies to your post, you'll get it twice. AFAIKS

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On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Bas Pruijn wrote:

> Recently I receive some of the mailings from the list twice. Not all, just
> some. Is there anyone else having this problem, or is it my ISP having some
> problems. (Their mailserver crashed end of November; Don't remember when the
> problems started). If I am the only one I'll complain to my ISP, but since I
> only receive e-mails from the list on this account, I want to make sure:-)
>
You might recieve two mailings if they are replies to one of your own
messages. This is because the listserver sets adds both the listserver's
and your own e-mail address to the "Reply-To:" field. Usually people
remove the extra e-mail address, but It might slip once in a while.
For example, I can guarantee that you will recieve this message twice,
because I have intentionally left your e-mail address in the Reply-To
field.

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:55:00 +0900
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Comments: To: Kiyoshi Akima <kakima@usa.net>
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kakima>They are all formatted documents, so I'm relying on Memo's word-wrapping.
kakima> I have the margins set to either 40 or 64 for editing and 98 for
kakima> printing.

Perhaps the one doc that's giving you trouble may have been saved with "ASCII"
format? You can verify this by going Menu-File-saveAs with the bad file loaded
and see if "ASCII" is checked. Uncheck this box to save as Memo format (That
is, to keep bold, underlines, et cetra.) and save it.

Once you saved the doc with ASCII unchecked, it will always open as Memo
formatted document.

kakima>If this keeps up, I may have to get a WinCE machine and do all my writing in PocketWord...NOT!

Me either. Hope your problem gets solved this time.

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Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 1997 20:24:36 -0600
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I noticed that you can't name a field with a "number".  For example if
I tried to create a database with 3 field names: 2MB, 4MB & 8MB it
doesn't allow it.  It gives me an error message "An equivalent field
name already exists '2MB' is equivalent to '2MB'.  Is there a way around
this?  Sometimes you need to use a "number" to name a field.

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Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:32:30 -0800
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i reformated an ace doubleflash 3MB/6MB and it is giving me a media error,
i played around with it, i can create a 2MB stacker volume (out of the
total 3MB), but i cannot access the remaining 1MB.

i seem to remember(?) that there is a utility for deallocating the bad
portion of a doubleflash, am i right? where can i get it?

thanks.
d bernardo

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 00:27:23 EST
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Phil,

I *think* I noticed this speed slow down once or twice in a week and a half
with my upgraded unit.  Could I get your listing of AUTOEXEC.BAT so I can keep
track of this myself?

Regards,
David Runge

In a message dated 97-12-08 13:25:59 EST, you write:

<< Could this editor have attempted something that conflicted with the TSR
 that manages the speed upgrade?
 I have a Thaddeus x2/8meg and to date, the only thing I have seen in the
 way of "weirdness" is that it slows down from time to time, causing me
 to have to re-boot.  To this end, I modified my AUTOEXEC.BAT to record
 every re-boot (or execution of the AUTOEXEC.BAT file) to a file
 BOOTLOG.DOC.  Now I have a history, including a comment, of each
 re-boot.  If I think it has become a problem I will ask Thaddeus about
 it.  :)

 Phil
 BTW, I use several specialized programs to control/diagnose radio
 systems, and to date none of them has crashed my x2/8meg.  I am also
 using MAXDOS to "find" space for one of these applications.
  >>

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In a message dated 97-12-09 09:32:41 EST, you write:

<< RECOMMENDATION: If running a stock 200LX and if you have room on your C:
drive, run Agenda off of C: drive to
 get acceptable performance, unless your A: drive is a SRAM card.  In other
words, do not run Agenda off an ATA
 flash card unless you have the 2X upgrade.
  >>

Hi Michael,

Actually, there are other ways to speed it up.  On Compuserve years ago, there
was much discussion and a document in one of the libraries written by David
Hamacek that I still have.  Does anyone out there know David, and/or is it
okay to resend it to everyone that wants it?  I don't think it was
copyrighted.

As I recall, the best thing you can do is devote lots of EMS memory.  In
Agenda or a F10, Utilities, Customize to view how Agenda is using EMS, if any.
If there's enough allocated, 384kb will be used for the program and the rest
(if you let it) will be used for data.

The other thing you can do is plug in the palmtop, let Agenda run until it has
finished "WRKG", then exit Agenda, then start it up again.  I don't know why
he recommended exiting Agenda, but he did, and so I do it.

If you're interested in the David Hamacek document, let me know.

Regards
David Runge

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In a message dated 97-12-08 19:40:10 EST, hobchi writes:

<< I see no problem having a stacked file with the
 unstacked host.   Just make a file smaller than
 max size of the flashcard or drive.  You almost
 always have an unstacked section anyway for
 stacker and DOS utils plus the auto/config files.
>>

Yes, but can you access both simultaneously?  I can't with Stacker 3.0.  I
have to unmount the drive to access the unstacked section.

Regards,
David Runge

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I concur with this after having my Thaddeus unit for 1 1/2 weeks!

Regards,
David Runge

In a message dated 97-12-08 19:39:11 EST, you write:

<< i recommend the times2tech double speed modification without hesitation.  i
 have nothing to do with t2t, except for being a happy customer.

 i have run many dos and 200lx specific program without a problem.

 cordially

         lynn m. cavendish >>

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 00:27:24 EST
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Michael,

You'll love letting Agenda run all day with the speed and memory you'll have!

I've had my upgraded 8mb 2x unit for 1 1/2 weeks and I have used Agenda on the
palmtop for years.  Much improved performance!  Especially with plenty of EMS
and especially if you can keep the data on the C: drive.

I sometimes do experience just a blinking cursor in the upper left corner and
have to hard reset.  Most of the time, its when I am exiting Agenda or another
app.  However, I've never lost my C: drive or any other data that I've already
saved.  I run Software Carousel version 6.92 and I think this is more a
problem with SC than anything else since I got this problem before the
upgrade.  I recommend saving your work often.

I don't want to scare you.  I think I'm a *very* heavy user.  I bounce back
and forth quite often between 5 work areas, probably 50 times a day or more.
I use my palmtop probably 8 hours a day to keep my to do list and misc info
that comes my way.

Regards,
David Runge

In a message dated 97-12-08 13:47:39 EST, you write:

<<
 We have had several posting about potential problems with double speed
upgrades.  Are all these problems
 coming from one or different vendors?

 I am thinking about upgrading my 200LX and I am wondering if anyone has run
Lotus Agenda on a double speed
 200LX?  And, if so, where there any problems with Agenda?

 Thanks,
 Michael >>

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Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 1997 23:12:48 -0800
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just got info select and am having trouble finding a "friendly" color
scheme.  i'm using one of the "black" background ones so i can
make out the menu "buttons" (white text), current and non-current cards
(black text on white windows) and help (dark text on half white)...
what are other folks using?

John Stafford -- http://pw2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.html --
johnws@ix.netcom.com
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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 02:31:52 -0600
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  I'd still appreciate a message from anyone who has an HP-200LX battery
cover for sale or advice from anyone who knows where I can get one fairly
cheaply...

  Thanks,
       ... JLS
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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 10:41:17 MET
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Has someone else the same problems I have with the new lxpic 6.0?
- funny character set for the "help" F1 display
- pressing "W" (B/W) and than "space" (next picture) displays a
  few lines of funny words (seems like debug info)
- starting lxpic in a directory without pictures (or exiting
  lxpic) produces a series of horizontal lines (21)
- and finally, it (sometimes) halts my entire hp200 and I have
  to do a hard reset (ctrl-shft-on)

I have a 5 Mb 200lx, with Carousel, and tried the above in a
Carousel session which has the MKS sh.exe as command.

Charles Stroom

charles@yc.estec.esa.nl
European Space Technology Centre, Noordwijk, the Netherlands
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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 12:23:50 +0100
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On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Charles Stroom wrote:

> Has someone else the same problems I have with the new lxpic 6.0?
Yes!

> - funny character set for the "help" F1 display
Yes. I guess this has something to do with the new greyscale mode. It
doesn't happen when you press F1 when in B/W mode.

> - starting lxpic in a directory without pictures (or exiting
>   lxpic) produces a series of horizontal lines (21)
I also get this when I exit LxPic.

> - and finally, it (sometimes) halts my entire hp200 and I have
>   to do a hard reset (ctrl-shft-on)

Fortunately, this haven't happened to me yet...

> I have a 5 Mb 200lx, with Carousel, and tried the above in a
> Carousel session which has the MKS sh.exe as command.
>
I have a 6 Mb 200lx. Sometimes I run it under plain DOS, sometimes under
SysMgr (w. MaxDos). It doesn't seem to make any difference.
Perhaps the problem is related to expanded 200LXs?

Regards,

Laust
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Access both the host drv and the stacked drive
simultaniously?   Is there such an animal?     If
you have a smaller room inside a larger one
with the exits on the outside yu can go into one
or the other.  Have you ever been able to do
both?   Doesn't sound logically poss.

If you have, do explain how its done,  neat trick.


yor pal al.........................

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 08:58:05 -0600
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I use a program, ENTER.COM to "push a carriage return to the keyboard in
the following excerpt from my AUTOEXEC.BAT file to record my re-boots of
my palmtop.  (sorry, no access to S.U.P.E.R. or the internet, so you
will have to fine ENTER.COM somewhere.)

@ECHO OFF
:
: lines you don't need
:
ENTER
DATE>>BOOTLOG.DOC
ENTER
TIME>>BOOTLOG.DOC
ECHO Enter reason for re-boot (end entry with <enter><ctrl-z><enter>
COPY CON BOOTDESC.DOC
IF EXIST BOOTDESC.DOC TYPE BOOTDESC.DOC>>BOOTLOG.DOC
IF EXIST BOOTDESC.DOC DEL BOOTDESC.DOC>NUL
:
: remainder of stuff in AUTOEXEC.BAT
:

I also built a simple macro to "clean-up" the BOOTLOG.DOC file.

<soapbox>
The simple batch file excerpt above is a classic example of just how
useless windows can be.
</soapbox>

Phil


>I *think* I noticed this speed slow down once or twice in a week and a half
>with my upgraded unit.  Could I get your listing of AUTOEXEC.BAT so I can
>keep
>track of this myself?

>  To this end, I modified my AUTOEXEC.BAT to record
> every re-boot (or execution of the AUTOEXEC.BAT file) to a file
> BOOTLOG.DOC

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:10:33 -0600
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Not to cause any alarm, as I have just experienced this, but so far
(with my x2/8meg from Thaddeus) on one occasion I had to re-initialize
my palmtop and re-load all my "stuff" as it seems that the serial port
(IR included) stopped receiving data.  The transmit still worked, but
receive was not working.  I have also noticed occasional "slow-downs"
requiring re-boot.  I use several programs that might be to blame, but
my old normal palmtop never exhibited the serial port thing (not to
mention it never got any slower than it ever was :)

Phil
>
>I'm considering getting one of the 8MB doublespeed HPs from Thaddeus but
>have a question:  are there any incompatibilities I need to be aware of
>with the doublespeed conversion?  Anyone know what the current price for
>these units is?  I went to their homepage but didn't see a price.
>
>Do their palmtops come with Software Carousel?
>
>

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 08:33:57 -0600
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I'd still appreciate a message from anyone
who has an HP-200LX battery cover for sale
or advice from anyone who knows where I
can get one fairly cheaply...

The cheepest you can do is to spring for the
kit at theddas (whatever).  UNLESS someone
got the kit and wanted it for something else
and will sell you the cover.

all the best, yor pal al..................................

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 11:08:06 -0500
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For those of you who are interested, I am still working of the list and web page for Lotus Agenda and Symantec
ACT! users.

I am hoping to have the PIM-list up and running this week.

The PIM web page is up, however there is no content at this time.

Michael

_____________________________________________

  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
         11:02:15 AM EST    12/10/97
_____________________________________________

Future home of the Agenda/ACT! PIM web page:
   http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:13:14 -0800
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On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:

> I use a program, ENTER.COM to "push a carriage return to the keyboard in
> the following excerpt from my AUTOEXEC.BAT file to record my re-boots of
> my palmtop.  (sorry, no access to S.U.P.E.R. or the internet, so you
> will have to fine ENTER.COM somewhere.)
>
> @ECHO OFF
> :
> : lines you don't need
> :
> ENTER
> DATE>>BOOTLOG.DOC
Actually, you can do the same function as ENTER.COM using plain DOS.

Create a file containing just a carriage return (the following assumes you
know your way around a DOS command line):

        1) Get to DOS prompt
        2) Type "copy con cr.dat" and press ENTER
        3) You'll be on a blank line, press ENTER again
        4) Press Ctrl-Z
        5) Press ENTER again, you'll get a msg: 1 file(s) copied

This process creates a file called cr.dat that has just a carriage return.

Now in your batch file, in place of:

ENTER
DATE>>BOOTLOG.DOC

you can use:

DATE<CR.DAT >>BOOTLOG.DOC

This tells DOS to feed the cr.dat file as input to the DATE command and
append the command's output to BOOTLOG.DOC.

Options....that's what we want right? <g>

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 11:43:46 -0600
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I have not tried this, would REMKEY work to this end?

Phil

>Rod, or anyone else, is it possible to use the newton keyboard on a win 95
>machine. It would be perfect for the job, that I'm thinking of.
>

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:32:45 +0100
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hi all,

My name is Peter from Dordrecht in the Netherlands.

I am new to the list, but I own a HP-200LX with 1 Mbyte and a 10 Mbyte
Sandisk.

All is working OK and I am very happy with it, but I would be more happy
if some one can tell me if there is a programm (preferably freeware (Yes
I am really Dutch:) ) available to exchange the appointment/ to do files
from the HP-200LX with the files of Schedule+ and/or outlook from
MicroSoft. I have surfed the Net and did not find what I need. Exact
File descriptions of the Date Files will help also as I will be able to
write a conversion programm myself, but I hardly can imagine that
someone else already did this in the past

Please advise if you have any solution.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 12:53:21 -0600
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This is good!  I like it when someone else can add to whatever nonsense
I create. :)
Batch is good, too bad more was not made of it in "the good old days" or
we would find more to like in the newer "modern" OS offered today. :)

Phil

>Actually, you can do the same function as ENTER.COM using plain DOS.
>Create a file containing just a carriage return (the following assumes you
>know your way around a DOS command line):
>        1) Get to DOS prompt
>        2) Type "copy con cr.dat" and press ENTER
>        3) You'll be on a blank line, press ENTER again
>        4) Press Ctrl-Z
>        5) Press ENTER again, you'll get a msg: 1 file(s) copied
>This process creates a file called cr.dat that has just a carriage return.
>Now in your batch file, in place of:
>ENTER
>DATE>>BOOTLOG.DOC
>you can use:
>DATE<CR.DAT >>BOOTLOG.DOC
>This tells DOS to feed the cr.dat file as input to the DATE command and
>append the command's output to BOOTLOG.DOC.
>Options....that's what we want right? <g>
>

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 12:09:03 -0700
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I have just started using my HP 95LX on a regular basis, and this has included
the purchase of a couple of sets of Ni-cad rechargeable batteries.  (And a
charger, since the 95LX doesn't charge batteries.)

It seems to me that previously, when I had the AC adapter on the unit, that the
battery levels always reported full.  This is not the case now.  Now the level
seems the same whether the adapter is plugged in or not.  Is this the way it
ought to be?

I would appreciate any tips on power management for this machine.  For
instance, under what circumstances besides use of the serial port, does the
port get powered on?  And is there a TSR which will help keep it turned off
when not in use?

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:35:23 -0700
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Does anyone have the documentation that goes with these utilities?  I can't get
the DCS95 program to do anything but hang the system.  There isn't much online
help on the disk.  I fact, it only describes how to connect the cables.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:41:16 -1
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              Bas Pruijn <126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL>
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Subject:      Nettamer

I see some users on this list use nettamer 1.10.1. Where do you find this
version,since it is not on the homepage of nettamer (I followed the link on
the SUPER-site).

BTW: This link on SUPER still refers to NT 1.08. Mitch??


Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Comments: To: duane.edgington@acm.org
Comments: cc: dedgington@EARTHLINK.NET

On 1997-12-08 duane.edgington@acm.org said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >Benito Yu C. B. wrote:
   >> i have a 320 LX with a flashdisk of 4 MB.  i find that windows CE
   >> recognizes the flashdisk only as a ramdisk.  What memory manager
   >>do i  need to run to enable the 320 LX to recognize the whole
   >>ramdisk as  main memory?
IMHO: You cannot! The flash is used for datastorage. Can try to save as much
data as possible on the flashdisk. Then you can use all (or most of) the
internal ram as memory. You don't need a big disk in the internal memory.

BTW: The 320 is a nice machine for users who do not want to learn dos. (yes
they exist). If it were a little (or a lot) faster it would be a pleasure to
work with (for those people again:-)

Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 15:54:04 -0500
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>BTW: This link on SUPER still refers to NT 1.08. Mitch??

Since it is on offsite link, I have not paid much attention to the version
number. Uncle Dave changes so often that it would be a full time job just to
keep versions current. I think I will remove that and things will be good as
the link still works.

SUPER update coming tomorrow most likely...

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Anyone have a used copy of Info Select/DOS they'd be willing to part
with?
Benson

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Bryan,

You might want to check out Buddy for the 95LX at:

http://www.buddy.com/

This is an indispensable utility that adds true functionality to the 95LX.  Plus I
believe that it has some power management features, including control over serial port
on/off.

I believe that the serial port is on when filer and com apps are running.

Michael

--- On Wed, 10 Dec 1997 12:09:03 -0700  Bryan Pearson <bryan@ONYXGFX.COM> wrote:

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     Hi!
     When you say "datastorage" that is not really the right word. Because
     you CAN NOT store any database type files on any flash disk.
     Addresses, appointments, personal finance, will not store on flash
     disk.

     Helmut in Colorado


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Date:    12/10/97 3:41 PM


On 1997-12-08 duane.edgington@acm.org said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >Benito Yu C. B. wrote:
   >> i have a 320 LX with a flashdisk of 4 MB.  i find that windows CE
   >> recognizes the flashdisk only as a ramdisk.  What memory manager
   >>do i  need to run to enable the 320 LX to recognize the whole
   >>ramdisk as  main memory?
IMHO: You cannot! The flash is used for datastorage. Can try to save as much
data as possible on the flashdisk. Then you can use all (or most of) the
internal ram as memory. You don't need a big disk in the internal memory.

BTW: The 320 is a nice machine for users who do not want to learn dos. (yes
they exist). If it were a little (or a lot) faster it would be a pleasure to
work with (for those people again:-)

Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

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Has anyone been successful in running HPPIM on NT4.0 workstation?

Upon installing the 2 applications the Appts.exe works fine and
Phone.exe  causes an error stating that an error has occured in the
application. This eventually causes a GPF.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

Bradley A. Johson
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Some asked yesterday if a DB element can
start with a number as: 69holes.
YES it can if followed by an alpha as shown.

otra cosa:
Does anyone know of a way to change
a TEXT to a NOTE?

or is compact (1/2 size) flash cards are worth
the cost and effort?

all the best, yor pal al...

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I had a similar problem.  My guess is that either my phonebook is too big
or since I've modified my phonebook file it won't read it.

Don


At 02:08 PM 12/10/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Has anyone been successful in running HPPIM on NT4.0 workstation?
>
>Upon installing the 2 applications the Appts.exe works fine and
>Phone.exe  causes an error stating that an error has occured in the
>application. This eventually causes a GPF.
>
>Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thank you in advance.
>
>Bradley A. Johson
>bjohnson@platsoft.com
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     Hi!
     Yes I use it every day. And i had the same problem. There is nothing
     wrong with the phone.exe but with the phone PDB file that it is trying
     to load.

     Helmut in Colorado


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Date:    12/10/97 3:08 PM


Has anyone been successful in running HPPIM on NT4.0 workstation?

Upon installing the 2 applications the Appts.exe works fine and
Phone.exe  causes an error stating that an error has occured in the
application. This eventually causes a GPF.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

Bradley A. Johson
bjohnson@platsoft.com
KD6EPG

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:07:20 -0600
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              Mary and Mike Kilpatrick <mikemary@MCIPNET.COM>
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I have a friend at work that was selling a copy but he was wanting
something like $30. What does it sell for new?

Mike Kilpatrick

At 03:54 PM 12/10/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Anyone have a used copy of Info Select/DOS they'd be willing to part
>with?
>Benson
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> > I use a program, ENTER.COM to "push a carriage return to the keyboard"

> DATE<CR.DAT >>BOOTLOG.DOC
Actually, this is the exact solution I hit upon to do this. But then
some wise soul on this list advised me of an arcane (and undocumented
feature, AFAIK) of echo. The following should do what you want:

ECHO. | DATE

>         2) Type "copy con cr.dat" and press ENTER
So con is a virtual file, which is just whatever you type: stdin in C.
Thanks for this tip!



Disclaimer: NONE of these methods presently work on my palmtop! It must be
all the TSR's I have loaded...

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Text of message from: HELMUT_GROSSINGER@HP-COLSPRINGS-OM1...,
             written: on Wed, 10 Dec 1997 at 05:46 PM
>      Hi!
>      Yes I use it every day. And i had the same problem. There is
>      nothing wrong with the phone.exe but with the phone PDB file that
>      it is trying to load.
>
>      Helmut in Colorado
>

I had the same problem trying to run under Win95.  I couldn't read my PDB
file, NDB file, or GDB files for the same reason.  They read fine under
CPACK applications.

Helmut, can you give us any pointers?

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Does the file transfer program "zip" still work with the x2 upgrade? Thanks.

Ron

>
> I concur with this after having my Thaddeus unit for 1 1/2 weeks!
>
> Regards,
> David Runge
>
> In a message dated 97-12-08 19:39:11 EST, you write:
>
> << i recommend the times2tech double speed modification without hesitation.  i
>  have nothing to do with t2t, except for being a happy customer.
>
>  i have run many dos and 200lx specific program without a problem.
>
>  cordially
>
>          lynn m. cavendish >>
>
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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:33:58 -0600
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When you say "datastorage" that is not
really the right word. Because you CAN
NOT store any database type files on
any flash disk.  Addresses, appointments,
personal finance, will not store on flash
disk.

Are we talking about flashcards or RAM?
WHY NOT?  Isn't it just memory?

Wow, what a bummer, what can this 320 do?

yor pal al......................................................

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 16:59:35 -0700
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     Hi!
     I am talking about that little thing you insert on either side of the
     HP3X0LX called flash disk or compact disk. It will not store database
     type files there and WinCE 2.0 did not change that at all. That is
     the exact reason why I gave my HP320LX back and got me a HP200LX with
     4 MB RAM. I know the difference between RAM and flash disk.

     Helmut in Colorado


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When you say "datastorage" that is not
really the right word. Because you CAN
NOT store any database type files on
any flash disk.  Addresses, appointments,
personal finance, will not store on flash
disk.

Are we talking about flashcards or RAM?
WHY NOT?  Isn't it just memory?

Wow, what a bummer, what can this 320 do?

yor pal al......................................................

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     Hi!
     What I did was re install the phone app and then it worked. The
     Omnibook PIM Does not like modified *.PDB files.

     Helmut in Colorado


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Text of message from: HELMUT_GROSSINGER@HP-COLSPRINGS-OM1...,
             written: on Wed, 10 Dec 1997 at 05:46 PM
>      Hi!
>      Yes I use it every day. And i had the same problem. There is
>      nothing wrong with the phone.exe but with the phone PDB file that
>      it is trying to load.
>
>      Helmut in Colorado
>

I had the same problem trying to run under Win95.  I couldn't read my PDB
file, NDB file, or GDB files for the same reason.  They read fine under
CPACK applications.

Helmut, can you give us any pointers?

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

snip

> >         2) Type "copy con cr.dat" and press ENTER
> So con is a virtual file, which is just whatever you type: stdin in C.
> Thanks for this tip!
>

con is short for console (No, not your Nintendo :-). It is actually a
left-over from Unix or possibly CP/M?.  When you have written whatever you
want, end the "copying" with a Ctrl Z followed by ENTER.  It is worse than
Edlin (just...), but better than nothing... Actually it's quite handy for
small one-liner batch files :-)

If you really want control of your command-line, try a program
like 4DOS (www.jpsoft.com). It does a much better job than COMMAND.COM, at
the cost of ~200kb (not counting the help files, which are ~700kb!).

Regards,

Laust
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On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

(Replying to my own post... sorry)

I just browsed the Double Speed thread, which turned out not to be about
double speed at all! Since it was about boot-logging and DOS, I decided to
add this to my previous post.

4DOS/NDOS features a bootlog and an improved batch-language. It runs
*almost* perfect on the 200LX.

(And, no I don't have anything to do with JP software, except that I have
happily used their shell, or rather a version licensed to Symantec called
NDOS, for several years.)


Regards,

Laust
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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 08:37:00 +0800
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Bas Pruijn wrote:

> On 1997-12-08 duane.edgington@acm.org said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
>    >Benito Yu C. B. wrote:
>    >> i have a 320 LX with a flashdisk of 4 MB.  i find that windows
> CE
>    >> recognizes the flashdisk only as a ramdisk.  What memory manager
>
>    >>do i  need to run to enable the 320 LX to recognize the whole
>    >>ramdisk as  main memory?
> IMHO: You cannot! The flash is used for datastorage. Can try to save
> as much
> data as possible on the flashdisk. Then you can use all (or most of)
> the
> internal ram as memory. You don't need a big disk in the internal
> memory.
>
> BTW: The 320 is a nice machine for users who do not want to learn dos.
> (yes
> they exist). If it were a little (or a lot) faster it would be a
> pleasure to
> work with (for those people again:-)
>
> Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

thanks Bas.

you're right, the only complaints i have about the 320LX are the need to
turn on the backlighting, and the time it takes to scroll an Excel
worksheet.  it either needs more main memory or a faster chip.  any way
i can upgrade this tiny tech marvel?

bycb

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:21:34 -0600
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I can see where you wouldn't want your PIM files on the card.
It is after all, an Organizer Plus, and you don't want to delete the
organizer.

Can you store Word and Excel documents? And perhaps additional
applications such as a database program? And then data for that added
database?

If the answer to the above is no, I guess I can store my virtual toothbrush
for my imaginary teeth.

Helmut Grossinger wrote:

>      Hi!
>      I am talking about that little thing you insert on either side of the
>      HP3X0LX called flash disk or compact disk. It will not store database
>      type files there and WinCE 2.0 did not change that at all.

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Hi

If you know of a company who may be able to replace a broken (cracked) LCD
screen on my 200LX please advise..  Any idea of pricing??

I am situated in Philadelphia if there are any close to here.

Thanks in advance

Russell

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Author:  Non-HP-speters (speters@kdsi.net) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    12/10/97 6:21 PM


I can see where you wouldn't want your PIM files on the card.
It is after all, an Organizer Plus, and you don't want to delete the
organizer.

     Whynot? On my 200LX I got everything on the card. The "C" drive has
     only that what is realy necessary.


Can you store Word and Excel documents? And perhaps additional
applications such as a database program? And then data for that added
database?
     No, no, no, you cannot store database files on the card they must
     remain in RAM.

     So tiny tech marvel as some one else wrote. i for one just do not see
     it. All it is up load somethging from the desktop read it and then put
     it back on the desktop. I take my 200LX on top of Pikes Peak and do
     all the nice things a computer should be able to do.

     Helmut in Colorado



If thsome ee answer to the above is no, I guess I can store my virtual
toothbrush for my imaginary teeth.

Helmut Grossinger wrote:

>      Hi!
>      I am talking about that little thing you insert on either side of the
>      HP3X0LX called flash disk or compact disk. It will not store database
>      type files there and WinCE 2.0 did not change that at all.

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I am going to look at doing something myself.

MS have an Exchange Server Development Kit.  Can anyone tell me where I
can find it.  I've had a look on our MS Developer Network CDs and the MS
WWW site and can't locate it.  I'm hoping this will give me some classes
for updating Outlook contacts and appointments.

Stephen Robb

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:51:22 -0600
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I just browsed the Double Speed thread, which turned out not to be about
double speed at all! Since it was about boot-logging and DOS, I decided to
add this to my previous post.    (It was at the begining.)


4DOS/NDOS features a bootlog and an improved batch-language. It runs
*almost* perfect on the 200LX.     Any particular version or will any ver
do?

(And, no I don't have anything to do with JP software, except that I have
happily used their shell, or rather a version licensed to Symantec called
NDOS, for several years.)   Laust or me, yor pal
al..............................

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:00:13 -0600
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   I am talking about that little thing you insert on either side of
   the HP3X0LX called flash disk or compact disk. It will not store
  database type files there and WinCE 2.0 did not change that
  at all. That is the exact reason why I gave my HP320LX back
  and got me a HP200LX with 4 MB RAM. I know the difference
  between RAM and flash disk.    Helmut in Colorado

  Not knocking yu buddy, I couldn't fathom a disk (of any kind)
  not being able to hold a specific type file, so in my ignorance,
  I asked.  Another stupid question, why not?   How does it know
  what kind of file, mag impulses they are?  Presuming it stores
  some kind of mag file data.

  yor pal al..................................

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:51:32 EST
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Subject:      Re: memory on a 320LX

> Can you store Word and Excel documents? And perhaps additional
> applications such as a database program? And then data for that added
> database?
>      No, no, no, you cannot store database files on the card they must
>      remain in RAM.
>

Actually that only applies to the built in PIM apps and any database app
that uses the ObjectStore Database file format. Other apps and their
associated data files CAN be stored on Flash RAM cards, I currently have
alot of apps and other files on my 8M Flash.

>      So tiny tech marvel as some one else wrote. i for one just do not see
>      it. All it is up load somethging from the desktop read it and then put
>      it back on the desktop. I take my 200LX on top of Pikes Peak and do
>      all the nice things a computer should be able to do.
>
>      Helmut in Colorado
>

Thats funny, I sure seem to be able to do "all the nice things" on my Velo1
as well, I CAN add things to the PIM databases and they DO get syncronized
with my desktop apps. I can also surf the web with graphics, I can email, I
can remotely control my desktop machine, I can telnet into my Linux boxes
to do administration, I can play games (of course), and I can do any number
of other things that "a computer should be able to do". Also, with a tiny
little app I can copy PIM databases to Flash and back and even have more
than on database file per PIM app if I wanted.

Also, yes I do own an HP200LX and it is a really nice machine. It runs
thousands of DOS programs and can be used to do hundreds of things. It also
is a pain to get connected to the internet. It can't have a modem and a
flash disk at the same time without an external modem. It is too expensive
to upgrade internal memory (not that HPCs are great either). It is rather
slow (or else we wouldn't have all these double speed upgrades would we).
The worst part, though, is that it is a dead end. There will never be a NEW
HP200LX from HP. Of course there are similar machines but they are few and
far between, seldom as nice as the HPLX and cost a fortune. If HP would
have come out with a 386 based machine with 8M of memory I would have
bought one in an instant but they didn't and they never will. Sorry to say
but thats the way it goes.

Another thing, don't jump all over me about being someone who needs the
latest and greatest. I collect old computers, have about 50. I really like
alot of them, they were and still are better platforms that our so called
standard WINTEL box. But owning and using an obsolete (I prefer the term
orphan) computer is like owning and using a really old car. Every year it
gets more expensive and harder to keep up and I certainly wouldn't want to
depend on one for a cross country trip.


>
>
> If thsome ee answer to the above is no, I guess I can store my virtual
> toothbrush for my imaginary teeth.
>
> Helmut Grossinger wrote:
>
> >      Hi!
> >      I am talking about that little thing you insert on either side of the
> >      HP3X0LX called flash disk or compact disk. It will not store database
> >      type files there and WinCE 2.0 did not change that at all.
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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:58:12 EST
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Subject:      Re: Memory file storage on a 320LX

>    I am talking about that little thing you insert on either side of
>    the HP3X0LX called flash disk or compact disk. It will not store
>   database type files there and WinCE 2.0 did not change that
>   at all. That is the exact reason why I gave my HP320LX back
>   and got me a HP200LX with 4 MB RAM. I know the difference
>   between RAM and flash disk.    Helmut in Colorado
>
>   Not knocking yu buddy, I couldn't fathom a disk (of any kind)
>   not being able to hold a specific type file, so in my ignorance,
>   I asked.  Another stupid question, why not?   How does it know
>   what kind of file, mag impulses they are?  Presuming it stores
>   some kind of mag file data.
>
>   yor pal al..................................

The reason isn't the type of file as much as the type of FILE SYSTEM on the
device. Windows CE has as its underlying storage system for RAM a thing
they refer to as ObjectStore, basically just a new file system. It includes
compression and other attributes that make it ideal for a small system like
an HPC. Logically MS chose not to implement objectstore on external media
since that would make it incompatible with other systems. The file system
on a flash disk is 100% win95 compatable and can be read by any DOS system
with a PC Card slot. If the Flash card had ObjectStore on it nothing could
read it unless it also supported this new file system. The PIM apps use a
feature of ObjectStore for their data files that makes them faster but
incompatable with a "normal" file system. There are utilities that allow
you to copy these database files to flash and back. The big mistake MS made
was in not including some simple means of manipulating these database files
in the PIM apps themselves. I would like to be able to have different
shortcuts for different contact databases, maybe a command line arguement
to the PIM app to tell it to load the database from some other "normal"
file.



Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Business Division
Tidewater Community College

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 22:26:29 -0500
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I don't know if anyone has been thinking about upgrading the memory in their HP
and just haven't yet, but NSW just instructed me to lower the price in their
banner ad to $99.

http://www.palmtop.net/nsw_special.html

I would normally not mention something like this on the list, but NSW has been
financially supporting the Palmtop Network and the SUPER Site now for almost 11
months. Without them, I could not have afforded to keep the site running and I
figure I owe them the favor of a public announcement.

Thanks!

Back to your regularly scheduled programming...

Mitch

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 22:46:17 -0500
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Hi Guys and girls

I was wondering if any of you may be able to share some wisdom?

I have just converted my 486 laptop to windoze95.  During the process I
changed my old PCMCIA drivers to win95 compatibility for speed.

It works and recognises the card....only one problem.. The card from my
trusty HPLX is stacked using version 3.0.  When trying to access the cards
stacked data as I used to under dos/win 3.x I get the message "exit windows
and run under dos".  The driver to recognise the card is win95 dependent
therefore under dos...no card..  :(((

Does anyone know of a way to get this combination working as is or do I need
to revert to the old MSDOS drivers so I can use Stacker??

Any help appreciated..

10MB Sundisk Stacked ATA Flash card.

Cheers

Russell

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:15:26 -0600
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>    I am talking about that little thing you insert on either side of
>    the HP3X0LX called flash disk or compact disk. It will not store
>   database type files there and WinCE 2.0 did not change that
>   at all. That is the exact reason why I gave my HP320LX back
>   and got me a HP200LX with 4 MB RAM. I know the difference
>   between RAM and flash disk.    Helmut in Colorado
>
>   I couldn't fathom a disk (of any kind) not being able to hold a
     specific type file, so in my ignorance,   Another stupid question,
     why not?   How does it know what kind of file, mag impulses
     they are?  Presuming it stores some kind of mag file data.

The reason isn't the type of file as much as the type of FILE SYSTEM on the
device. Windows CE has as its underlying storage system for RAM a thing
they refer to as ObjectStore, basically just a new file system. It includes
compression and other attributes that make it ideal for a small system like
an HPC. Logically MS chose not to implement objectstore on external media
since that would make it incompatible with other systems. The file system
on a flash disk is 100% win95 compatable and can be read by any DOS system
with a PC Card slot. If the Flash card had ObjectStore on it nothing could
read it unless it also supported this new file system. The PIM apps use a
feature of ObjectStore for their data files that makes them faster but
incompatable with a "normal" file system. There are utilities that allow
you to copy these database files to flash and back. The big mistake MS made
was in not including some simple means of manipulating these database files
in the PIM apps themselves. I would like to be able to have different
shortcuts for different contact databases, maybe a command line arguement
to the PIM app to tell it to load the database from some other "normal"
file.

Peter W. Borders
Network Support Technician     Business Division
Tidewater Community College   tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

A masterful elucidation, clap,
clap,clap..........................................

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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 22:05:59 -0600
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Helmut Grossinger wrote:
>      Yes I use it every day. And i had the same problem. There is nothing
>      wrong with the phone.exe but with the phone PDB file that it is trying

Does anyone know if in the HPPIM phone application you can get a "full
screen" Note?  I can only do that in the Appointment application.

Les
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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 22:53:06 -0500
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David Runge said on the list:

> Actually, there are other ways to speed it up.  On Compuserve years ago, there
> was much discussion and a document in one of the libraries written by David
> Hamacek that I still have.  Does anyone out there know David, and/or is it
> okay to resend it to everyone that wants it?  I don't think it was
> copyrighted.

I had tried to reach David Hamacek last year without success.  I took
the liberty of forwarding a copy of his file with the Agenda FAQ to
those people who requested it so I expect that most people on this list
who have tried Lotus Agenda on their 100/200 have seen the article.

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Hey Mike -

Your PIM site is looking good.  Keep up the good work!

Brian
Agenda User on HP200lx

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Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:
> http://www.palmtop.net/nsw_special.html
>
> I would normally not mention something like this on the list, but NSW has been
> financially supporting the Palmtop Network and the SUPER Site now for almost 11
> months. Without them, I could not have afforded to keep the site running
I just placed an order from NSW and was very pleased with the courtesy
and knowledge of their sales personnel.  Assuming the order arrives when
they say... then I'll be delighted.

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Hi;

Sounds good, $99 for what?
I already have 6MB, $99 for 2MB to 8MB?

Do I get a rebate for the old chip?

yor pal al...............................

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Hey guy
I'll tell you what.
I'll give you $100 toward a new card.
Sound good?
If you live near me in CHI.

yor pal al.............................

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The problem is that Nettamer has *two* websites.  The one that is current
is http://www.nettamer.net

-David

On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:

> >BTW: This link on SUPER still refers to NT 1.08. Mitch??
>
> Since it is on offsite link, I have not paid much attention to the version
> number. Uncle Dave changes so often that it would be a full time job just to
> keep versions current. I think I will remove that and things will be good as
> the link still works.
>
> SUPER update coming tomorrow most likely...
>
> Mitch
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Russell,
I have a copy of Stacker 3.1 I use. It was upgraded to access the dblspace.bin
file included in DOS 6.0 (and later versions too, I assume). It appears that
Windows had (has) problems with 3.0 and they upgraded.

I know that there are help files at the stacker website, but no online support
there. It is either www.stac.com or www.stacker.com, I can't recall which. I
hope this helps.

Dennis

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> Wow, what a bummer, what can this 320 do?

It is an excellent machine! It is very easy to use and you can do
*lots* of things with it! For example, you can use it as a paper weight
(that's how I use it successfully) or as a door stopper. I even heard
about somebody who uses it to stabilize a wobbling table - what proves
that the WinCE platform is very stable. It is really an excellent tool.
Just don't try to use it as a computer or even as a PIM. That's not
what it is made for.

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Can't get to SUPER site from here...no www access.  Can someone, out of t=
he
goodness of their heart,  please send me a copy of the password breaking
program?  This miserable non-hacker has 2 docs he can't recall the
passwords to.  I know, pretty lame, but I am good at it!
Thanks!
Tom Nemeth
Damascus, Syria

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Can anyone supply me with an Email address or FAX # for a Software Carous=
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s!
Tom Nemeth
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Puma (www.puma.com) do Intellisync - there was a product Intellilink
from Intellilink Corp. - I guess Puma bought them.  It does Schedule+,
but *not* Outlook.  There is nothing for Outlook.  Nothing free/share
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I have an extra HP-200 LX cover BUT one of the two "things" on it that
keep it "locked" in place are broken off. It works fine but it is not
"complete." If your battery cover is in worse shape, or if you are
missing it completely, you can have my extra. It will cost you some
stamps or a mailer though.
         If you have a pre-stamped/pre-addressed mailer you can mail that to me
and I'll put the battery cover in that and send it to you. If you mail
me some postage stamps I will tape some cardboard around the cover and
mail it to you. If you send extra stamps I can put more packaging around
it. I live close to (north of) San Francisco so you can figure out the
postage necessary. If you are interested e-mail me and I'll send you my
address. Now, you do just mean the plastic battery cover and not the
whole back plate right?

John Stanley wrote:
>
>   I'd still appreciate a message from anyone who has an HP-200LX battery
> cover for sale or advice from anyone who knows where I can get one fairly
> cheaply...
>
>   Thanks,
>        ... JLS
> ---
>  John L. Stanley <jls@goldengate.net>
> Software Developer -- Dynasoft Systems
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I just wanted to say thanks to all of the people who wrote me to say
that they liked the "movie jokes" that I accidently posted here.
I also wanted to say Happy Holidays to everyone and good luck during
finals to any of you who have them next week. ( I do ).

        Richard Bueker

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My brother-in-law has had the same dilemma for over a year. He was not
able to get his working in DOS the way he wanted too. His PCMCIA cards
are the thick type 4 kind that have little 135 meg hard drives in them.
He uses some only with Win95 (stacked) and the others in DOS but
un-stacked.

Russell Hemery wrote:
>
> Hi Guys and girls
>
> I was wondering if any of you may be able to share some wisdom?
>
> I have just converted my 486 laptop to windoze95.  During the process I
> changed my old PCMCIA drivers to win95 compatibility for speed.
>
> It works and recognises the card....only one problem.. The card from my
> trusty HPLX is stacked using version 3.0.  When trying to access the cards
> stacked data as I used to under dos/win 3.x I get the message "exit windows
> and run under dos".  The driver to recognise the card is win95 dependent
> therefore under dos...no card..  :(((
>
> Does anyone know of a way to get this combination working as is or do I need
> to revert to the old MSDOS drivers so I can use Stacker??
>
> Any help appreciated..
>
> 10MB Sundisk Stacked ATA Flash card.
>
> Cheers
>
> Russell
>
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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 18:06:02 +0800
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Very interested in this, David.  If you're not sure about the copyright,
perhaps you could direct us to the relevant file name on CompuServe?


David
-----Original Message-----
From: DMRunge <DMRunge@AOL.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: 10 December 1997 13:34
Subject: Re: Agenda Performance on 200LX


>In a message dated 97-12-09 09:32:41 EST, you write:
>
><< RECOMMENDATION: If running a stock 200LX and if you have room on your C:
>drive, run Agenda off of C: drive to
> get acceptable performance, unless your A: drive is a SRAM card.  In other
>words, do not run Agenda off an ATA
> flash card unless you have the 2X upgrade.
>  >>
>
>Hi Michael,
>
>Actually, there are other ways to speed it up.  On Compuserve years ago,
there
>was much discussion and a document in one of the libraries written by David
>Hamacek that I still have.  Does anyone out there know David, and/or is it
>okay to resend it to everyone that wants it?  I don't think it was
>copyrighted.
>
>As I recall, the best thing you can do is devote lots of EMS memory.  In
>Agenda or a F10, Utilities, Customize to view how Agenda is using EMS, if
any.
>If there's enough allocated, 384kb will be used for the program and the
rest
>(if you let it) will be used for data.
>
>The other thing you can do is plug in the palmtop, let Agenda run until it
has
>finished "WRKG", then exit Agenda, then start it up again.  I don't know
why
>he recommended exiting Agenda, but he did, and so I do it.
>
>If you're interested in the David Hamacek document, let me know.
>
>Regards
>David Runge
>
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> Can't get to SUPER site from here...no www access.

Anyone who has this same problem can reach all the SUPER files at:

ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm

Mitch

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> Wow, what a bummer, what can this 320 do?

It is an excellent machine! It is very easy to use and you can do
*lots* of things with it! For example, you can use it as a paper weight
(that's how I use it successfully) or as a door stopper. I even heard
about somebody who uses it to stabilize a wobbling table - what proves
that the WinCE platform is very stable. It is really an excellent tool.
Just don't try to use it as a computer or even as a PIM. That's not
what it is made for.

It can be used as a rock to throw at people (the jerks who invented
this out of the ashes of a good machine). Let's do something
construtive and send a cumlative (snowballing) list to HP and let them
know they screwed up.  Maybe they don' know.............

yor pal al chin (Just add yor name below and see how many we get)

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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 06:16:44 -0800
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On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > > I use a program, ENTER.COM to "push a carriage return to the keyboard"
>
> > DATE<CR.DAT >>BOOTLOG.DOC
> Actually, this is the exact solution I hit upon to do this. But then
> some wise soul on this list advised me of an arcane (and undocumented
> feature, AFAIK) of echo. The following should do what you want:
>
> ECHO. | DATE

Thanks Brendan. Someone had mentioned this a long while ago (maybe back in
Mitch's mail list), but my poor brain is still stuck in the DOS 3.1 era
(maybe this fixation on old things explains my affection for the LX).

I've modified my desktop's autoexec.bat to record bootup times using your
new suggestion, and in concert with the "find" command in DOS (not
included on the LX....you have to get a copy off a full DOS 5.0 system).
The commands are:

echo. |date |find "Current" >>boot.log
echo. |date |find "Current" >>boot.log

The "find" command filters out the extraneous "Enter new date/time" line
from the date/time commands.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 09:32:53 -0500
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The PIM-List is now active!

For those of your who have not been following this thread, the PIM-List was originally proposed for Lotus
Agenda and ACT! Palmtop/DOS users, to provide mutual technical support.

I have expanded the scope of this list to include all personal information management (PIM) software and
hardware users.

To find out how to subscribe to this list, goto the PIM-List web site at:

         http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/list.htm

Please note that there is currently a typo error in the "Welcome" message sent to new subscribers.  To post
messages after subscribing to the PIM-List, send e-mail messages to:

         pim-list@wizardtech.net

For those of you with access to Compuserve, please forward my invitation to join the list to Agenda forum
members.

Thanks,

Michael

_____________9:32:03 AM EST, 12/11/97_____________

e-mail: "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 22:39:32 -0500
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David Spoelstra wrote:
>
> The problem is that Nettamer has *two* websites.  The one that is current
> is http://www.nettamer.net
>
> -David
>
> On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:
>
> > >BTW: This link on SUPER still refers to NT 1.08. Mitch??
> >
> > Since it is on offsite link, I have not paid much attention to the version
> > number. Uncle Dave changes so often that it would be a full time job just to
> > keep versions current. I think I will remove that and things will be good as
> > the link still works.
> >
> > SUPER update coming tomorrow most likely...
> >
> > Mitch
> >
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>
Yes, it is ver 1.08 as of a few days ago. I downloaded it thinking that
it was newer and then found out that it is older than the 1.10 that I
already have.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Helmut Grossinger wrote:
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
> Subject: Re: memory on a 320LX
> Author:  Non-HP-speters (speters@kdsi.net) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
> Date:    12/10/97 6:21 PM
>
> I can see where you wouldn't want your PIM files on the card.
> It is after all, an Organizer Plus, and you don't want to delete the
> organizer.
>
>      Whynot? On my 200LX I got everything on the card. The "C" drive has
>      only that what is realy necessary.
>
> Can you store Word and Excel documents? And perhaps additional
> applications such as a database program? And then data for that added
> database?
>      No, no, no, you cannot store database files on the card they must
>      remain in RAM.
>
>      So tiny tech marvel as some one else wrote. i for one just do not see
>      it. All it is up load somethging from the desktop read it and then put
>      it back on the desktop. I take my 200LX on top of Pikes Peak and do
>      all the nice things a computer should be able to do.
>
>      Helmut in Colorado
>
> If thsome ee answer to the above is no, I guess I can store my virtual
> toothbrush for my imaginary teeth.
>
> Helmut Grossinger wrote:
>
> >      Hi!
> >      I am talking about that little thing you insert on either side of the
> >      HP3X0LX called flash disk or compact disk. It will not store database
> >      type files there and WinCE 2.0 did not change that at all.
>
I am certainly not any expert but from what I have seen, DBase files are
normally taken out of memory and then run up and down to find the active
entry but are swapped into and out of disk (read slow memory) while the
program is running. Use a DBase program and the power goes off, You have
a big problem. However, word processor and
most others only write to disk at intervals. The older ones only when
commanded, the newer, at regular intervals. Thus you always have a
mostly up to date file in memory. Thus, my guess is DB files not on
flash memory, WP files probably on flash memory.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 06:51:31 -0800
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On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:

> I don't know if anyone has been thinking about upgrading the memory in their HP
> and just haven't yet, but NSW just instructed me to lower the price in their
> banner ad to $99.
>
> http://www.palmtop.net/nsw_special.html

Thanks for the info Mitch. I have a backup LX (2mb) that I'd like to make
compatible with my T2T upgraded 6mb "workhorse". I see from the ad that
the $99 upgrade is for 4mb (ie, 2mb upgraded to 6mb, 1mb to 5mb), which
makes it an attractive offer.

Unfortunately (and <anyone> please correct me if I'm wrong), the upgrade
is not fully compatible with the T2T upgrade (ie, I wouldn't be able to
use the T2T EMM drivers). I know there's another EMM driver out there, but
ideally, I'd like to make the 2nd unit close enough to just swap flash
cards and go...not have to worry about which EMM driver is needed for
which.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 07:03:44 -0800
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On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, anborg wrote:

> David Spoelstra wrote:
> >
> > The problem is that Nettamer has *two* websites.  The one that is current
> > is http://www.nettamer.net
> >
> Yes, it is ver 1.08 as of a few days ago. I downloaded it thinking that
> it was newer and then found out that it is older than the 1.10 that I
> already have.

The one at http://www.nettamer.net is at 1.10.1 (at least as of 10 minutes
ago...I just downloaded and ran it).

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:08:45 +0100
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On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, HOBCHI wrote:

>Any particular version or will any ver do?
>
Any version should do, although you probably won't find anything but the
newest version of 4DOS on the net. NDOS was shipped with Norton Utilities,
although I don't know with which versions. Version 6 and 7 had it for
sure.
4DOS is shareware, BTW.

Regards,

Laust
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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 15:45:54 GMT
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              W5GXL <Deanl@BIGFOOT.COM>
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How do we keep this list for 200LX only??

All I see any more is 320LX ,  320LX, 320LX...

Why don't someone start a nice mail list for the 320LX???

Must I turn on filters to keep all this out?

___
      73  Dean W5GXL
          deanl@bigfoot.com

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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:03:44 -0500
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              Kiyoshi Akima <kakima@USA.NET>
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>It HP200LX can't have a modem and a flash disk at the same time without an external modem.

It's a good thing my HP200LX doesn't do natural language processing. I've got a 14.4k modem AND a 20M flash disk in it at the same time. In fact it's difficult to not have both in there at once, they're on one PCMCIA card, specifically designed for the HP200LX. It's the PCMF-144/20 card, from I-O Data.

If you can read Japanese, you can read more about it at
 http://www.iodata.co.jp/products/pcmcia/pcmf1420/pcmf1420.htm

The latest issue of the Palmtop Paper had a brief mention of it. The price has come down since I bought mine this spring.

I have no affiliation with I-O Data, other than being a satisfied customer.

Kiyoshi Akima
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How do we keep this list for 200LX only??
All I see any more is 320LX ,  320LX, 320LX...
Why don't someone start a nice mail list for the 320LX???

Must I turn on filters to keep all this out?
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          deanl@bigfoot.com

Maybe my list will let the HP mgmnt know of our plight.

yor pal al..............................

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Subject:      More jokes....        1/2

                   -------------------------------------
                            IN  THE  BEGINNING
                   -------------------------------------


  In the beginning there was the computer. And God said

  %Let there be light!

  %God

  #Enter password.

  %Omniscient

  #Password incorrect.  Try again.

  %Omnipotent

  #Password incorrect.  Try again.

  %Technocrat

  #And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Sunday, March 1.

  %Let there be light!

  #Unrecognizable command.  Try again.

  #Done

  %Run heaven and earth

  #And God created Day and Night. And God saw there were 0 errors.
  #And God logged off at 12:02:00 AM, Sunday, March 1.
  #Approx. funds remaining: $92.50.

  #And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Monday, March 2.

  %Let there be firmament in the midst of water and light

  #Unrecognizable command.  Try again.

  %Create firmament

  #Done.

  %Run firmament

  #And God logged off at 12:02:00 AM, Monday, March 2.
  #Approx. funds remaining: $84.60.

  #And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Tuesday, March 3.

  %Let the waters under heaven be gathered together unto one
  place and let  the dry land appear and....

  #Too many characters in specification string. Try again.

  %Create dry_land

  #Done.

  %Run firmament

  #And God divided the waters. And God saw there were 0 errors.
  #And God logged off at 12:02:00 AM, Tuesday, March 3.
  #Approx. funds remaining: $65.00.

  #And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Wednesday, March 4.

  %Create lights in the firmament to divide the day from the night

  #Unspecified type. Try again.

  %Create sun_moon_stars

  #Done

  %Run sun_moon_stars

  #And God created the heavens. And God saw there were 0 errors.
  #And God logged off at 12:02:00 AM, Wednesday, March 4.
  #Approx. funds remaining: $54.00.

  #And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Thursday, March 5.

  %Create fish

  #Done

  %Create fowl

  %Run fish, fowl

  #And God created the great sea monsters and every living
   creature that creepeth wherewith the waters swarmed after
   its kind and every winged fowl  after its kind. And God
   saw there were 0 errors.

  #And God logged off at 12:02:00 AM, Thursday, March 5.
  #Approx. funds remaining: $45.00.

  #And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Friday, March 6.

  %Create cattle

  %Create creepy_things

  #Done

  %Now let us make man in our image

  %Create man

  #Done

  %Be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth and subdue
   it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the
   fowl of the air and over every living thing that creepeth
   upon the earth.

  #Too many command operands. Try again.

  %Run multiplication

  #Execution terminated. 6 errors.

  %Insert breath

  #Done

  %Run multiplication

  #Execution terminated. 5 errors.

  %Move man to Garden of Eden

  #File Garden of Eden does not exist.

  %Create Garden.edn

  #Done
>>> Continued to next message
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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:27:26 -0300
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Subject:      More jokes....        2/2

>>> Continued from previous message
  %Move man to Garden.edn

  #Done

  %Run multiplication

  #Execution terminated. 4 errors.

  %Copy woman from man

  #Done

  #Execution terminated. 3 errors.

  %Insert woman into man

  #Illegal parameters. Try again.

  %Insert man into woman

  #Done

  %Run multiplication

  #Execution terminated. 2 errors.

  %Create desire

  #Done

  %Run multiplication

   Garden.edn

  #Warning: No time limit on this run. 1 errors.

  %Create freewill

  #Done

  %Run freewill

  #And God saw man and woman being fruitful and multiplying in
   Garden.edn

  #Warning: No time limit on this run. 1 errors.

  %Undo desire

  #Desire cannot be undone once freewill is created.

  %Destroy freewill

  #Enter replacement, cancel, or ask for help.

  %Help

  #Desire cannot be undone once freewill is created.
  #Freewill is an inaccessible file and cannot be destroyed.
  #Enter replacement, cancel, or ask for help.

  %Create tree_of_knowledge

  #And God saw man and woman being fruitful and multiplying in
   Garden.edn
  #Warning: No time limit on this run. 1 errors.

  %Create good, evil

  #Done

  %Activate evil

  #And God saw he had created shame.

  Garden.edn.
  #1 errors.

  %Scan Garden.edn for man, woman

  #Search failed.

  %Delete shame

  #Shame cannot be deleted once evil has been activated.

  %Destroy freewill

  #Freewill is an inaccessible file and cannot be destroyed.
  #Enter replacement, cancel, or ask for help.

  %Stop

  #Unrecognizable command. Try again

  %Break

  %Break

  #ATTENTION ALL USERS *** ATTENTION ALL USERS: COMPUTER GOING
   DOWN FOR REGULAR DAY OF MAINTENANCE AND REST IN FIVE MINUTES.
    PLEASE LOG OFF.

  %Create new world

  #You have exceeded your allocated file space. You must destroy
   old files before new ones can be created.

  %Destroy earth

  #Destroy earth: Please confirm.

  %Destroy earth confirmed

  #COMPUTER DOWN *** COMPUTER DOWN. SERVICES WILL RESUME
   SUNDAY, MARCH 8 AT 6:00 AM.  YOU MUST SIGN OFF NOW.

  #And God logged off at 11:59:59 PM, Friday, March 6.

 *****************************************************************

  Hope all of you enjoy this...

  Merry Christmast, and a happy new year...and of course....happy
  holidays !!! :)

  Best Regards,

  Martin
  Marseb@giga.com.ar

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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 08:32:56 -0800
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Subject:      I-O Data flash/modem card
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On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Kiyoshi Akima wrote:

> I've got a 14.4k modem AND a 20M flash disk in it at the same time. In
> fact it's difficult to not have both in there at once, they're on one
> PCMCIA card, specifically designed for the HP200LX. It's the PCMF-144/20
> card, from I-O Data.
>
> If you can read Japanese, you can read more about it at
>  http://www.iodata.co.jp/products/pcmcia/pcmf1420/pcmf1420.htm
>
> The latest issue of the Palmtop Paper had a brief mention of it. The
> price has come down since I bought mine this spring.

For my benefit (and others who either can't read Japanese nor get the
PTP), can you tell me what's the approx current price and what kind of
battery life you get? Thanks.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:52:53 -0600
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On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Kiyoshi Akima wrote:
> I've got a 14.4k modem AND a 20M flash disk in it at the same time. In
> fact it's difficult to not have both in there at once, they're on one
> PCMCIA card, specifically designed for the HP200LX. It's the PCMF-144/20
> card, from I-O Data.
>
> If you can read Japanese, you can read more about it at
>  http://www.iodata.co.jp/products/pcmcia/pcmf1420/pcmf1420.htm
>
> The latest issue of the Palmtop Paper had a brief mention of it. The
> price has come down since I bought mine this spring.

For my benefit (and others who either can't read Japanese nor get the
PTP), can you tell me what's the approx current price and what kind of
battery life you get? Thanks.

- Longden

I am interested in this GOTTA HAVE and will be going to TYO, Japan
I can have them expidite modems to you if you will send me yor adrs.
before 12/22.   HOBCHI.MCI2000.com  or call 312-527-9256
yor pal al.........................................

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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 12:11:43 -0500
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I read the post about NSW's $99 upgrade and started salivating!!  I =
could upgrade my LX and have something that would be clearly superior =
for my purposes to the PalmPilot which I am thinking about buying.  So I =
waited a few hours until they opened and gave them a call.  I had a =
question regarding whether the upgrade was end user installable.  And =
guess what...I got an answering machine that basically said..."There's =
noone to take this call and we won't take a message either so fax us or =
call back later."  It did not include a hint of "we're sorry but..."  =
Well, that attitude from a vendor really hacks me off.  Especially when =
I can walk down the street and get a PalmPilot pro for $350.  Maybe I'm =
just too old fashioned but I've gotten to the point where I refuse to =
buy from a company that exhibits the attitude that customers are some =
kind of second class citizens.  I guess I'll be taking a walk...

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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:24:00 -0500
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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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RZ>Does the file transfer program "zip" still work with the x2 upgrade? Thanks.

     It works great on mine Ron!

Jim

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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:16:30 -0600
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This works very nicely!  Thanks!

Phil
>
>ECHO. | DATE
>
>

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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:19:55 -0600
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Normally I avoid adding a one-liner to the list, but to this I say "me
too".

Phil

>From:  W5GXLSMTP:Deanl@BIGFOOT.COM
<snip>
>All I see any more is 320LX ,  320LX, 320LX...
>

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> All I see any more is 320LX ,  320LX, 320LX...
>
> Why don't someone start a nice mail list for the 320LX???

<flame shield on>

I assume 320LX users do not have the knowledge needed to start a
mailing list. They do not miss even the most basic features such as
being able to search an appointment in the appointment book. So I
would not assume they even know what a mailing list is nor how you
set up one without a mouse. Maybe we should help them.

<flame shield off>

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> Has anyone been successful in running HPPIM on NT4.0 workstation?
>
> Upon installing the 2 applications the Appts.exe works fine and
> Phone.exe  causes an error stating that an error has occured in the
> application. This eventually causes a GPF.
>
> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

I had the exact same problems on my computer.  The trouble seems to be using a
modified phone.pdb.  I copied the original phone.pdb off of the d: drive of the
palmtop and it appears to read it correctly.  However it will not read my
modified version of the phone.pdb where I added a couple of fields.

Jonathan Haase

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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 09:39:44 +1300
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Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:
>
> >BTW: This link on SUPER still refers to NT 1.08. Mitch??
>
> Since it is on offsite link, I have not paid much attention to the version
> number. Uncle Dave changes so often that it would be a full time job just to
> keep versions current. I think I will remove that and things will be good as
> the link still works.
>
> SUPER update coming tomorrow most likely...
>
Hi Mitch
I prefer 1.08pt for email & news as its smaller with no
time lookup hassles so it may be good to keep this option
as 1.10.1 can be found at the Nettamer page.
As with the **LX's the latest is not always the best!

cheers
John
Team HP200LX NZ

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I read the post about NSW's $99 upgrade and started salivating!!  I could
upgrade my LX and have something that would be clearly superior for my
purposes to the PalmPilot which I am thinking about buying.  So I waited a
few hours until they opened and gave them a call.  I had a question
regarding whether the upgrade was end user installable.  And guess what...I
got an answering machine that basically said..."There's noone to take this
call and we won't take a message either so fax us or call back later."  It
did not include a hint of "we're sorry but..."  Well, that attitude from a
vendor really hacks me off.  Especially when I can walk down the street and
get a PalmPilot pro for $350.  Maybe I'm just too old fashioned but I've
gotten to the point where I refuse to buy from a company that exhibits the
attitude that customers are some kind of second class citizens.  I guess
I'll be taking a walk...

Bill Rodgers
Software Consultant
Currently in NYC

I agree with you, ............. but tell them off after the upgrade, its
worth it.
NO, I don't work for them or even know them, maybe try times2 and they'll
do it for $99 bucks or less.
yor pal al....................................................

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Has anyone else had any trouble unzipping the Topcards.zip program on the
SUPER site? I've downloaded it 3 times today, but can't get it to unzip
correctly :(


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
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        Worked just fine here.

        Bradley Johnson
>
>
> Has anyone else had any trouble unzipping the Topcards.zip program on
> the
> SUPER site? I've downloaded it 3 times today, but can't get it to
> unzip
> correctly :(
>
>
> 73 de KF4KGQ
> Jeff Johns
> jeffj@scott.net
> Reserve Captain
> Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
> Birmingham, Alabama USA
> http://www.bham.net/jcsd
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On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Jeff wrote:

> Has anyone else had any trouble unzipping the Topcards.zip program on the
> SUPER site? I've downloaded it 3 times today, but can't get it to unzip
> correctly :(

FWIW, I just tried it. The file downloads, but pkunzip gets:

Searching ZIP: TOPCARDS.ZIP
PKUNZIP: (W04) Warning! TOPCARDS.ZIP - error in ZIP use PKZipFix

PKUNZIP: (E11) No file(s) found.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 17:35:15 -0500
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> FWIW, I just tried it. The file downloads, but pkunzip gets:
>
> Searching ZIP: TOPCARDS.ZIP
> PKUNZIP: (W04) Warning! TOPCARDS.ZIP - error in ZIP use PKZipFix

Sorry folks, looks like an incomplete ftp transfer when I sent the file up. It
is on a non-internet machine right now and (hoping that I saved a copy) I will
retrieve it and replace it tomorrow.

Mitch

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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:10:02 +1100
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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> I've modified my desktop's autoexec.bat to record bootup times using your
> new suggestion, and in concert with the "find" command in DOS (not
> included on the LX....you have to get a copy off a full DOS 5.0 system).
Thanks for the compliment, but it's really due to the Mystery Originator :)

> The commands are:
>
> echo. |date |find "Current" >>boot.log
>
> The "find" command filters out the extraneous "Enter new date/time" line
> from the date/time commands.
My guess is, you still get the "Current date is" prefix? Use sed!


I highly reccommend "sed", a stream editor (20K, SimTel & SUPER). You
send it a stream - like the output of date that you sent to "find" - and
it performs editing commands on it, based on good 'ol unix ed (which I
have *never* used).

The (s)ubstitute command in particular is just like the vi one,
using regular expressions:


We can say:
        echo. | date | sed -n "/Current/ s/Current date is //p"
and we get:
        Fri 12-12-1997


This simple format is:
        <address to identify a line> <command to operate on that line>
        /Current/       ...is a reg exp to match the line we want
        s/Current date is//     ...substitutes the first string with the
                                second; that is, "Current date is" with ""
        p                       ...the trailing p means to print the result
        (the -n option presents sed from echoing *all* lines, which is the
                default. Instead, it only prints what it is told to; here,
                that's the output of the substitute p

Regular expressions are breath-takingly powerful; it's easy to swap the
format of the date around, for example. In one simple line, I can replace
all C++-style comments with C-style comments, for example.

There's also the seders mailing list (full of truly crazy but nice people)
& FAQ & tutorial, accessible from:
        http://www.wollery.demon.co.uk/


How's that for unrequested information!? But I think you'll enjoy.

--
Brendan Macmillan               PROJECT: Using information theory (MML)
bren@cs.monash.edu.au                     to evaluate generative models
http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren         of nursery rhyme melodies.
"Orthogonal, unambiguous, non-redundant; and acknowledges subjectivity."

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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 21:45:49 -0300
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From:         Eduardo Cesana <ecesana@E-NET.COM.BR>
Organization: ECOLOGICA
Subject:      Re: Schedule/outlook Appointments HP200LX
Comments: To: "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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I found an interesting feature in the Netscape 4. It is the
Calendar, the Netscape's  "contender" to Schedule/Outlook from M$.

The nice feature is that the calender can syncronize and import/
export the Appointment to/from HP100/200LX.

Of course the Netscape device only import from Schedule .....  ;->))

ݨs


Eduardo Cesana

ECOLOGICA Tecnologia & Controle Ambiental Ltda
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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 17:35:46 -0600
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Is it just me, or does the NetTamer web browser really not even compare
with using Lynx over a telnet connection.  I have been testing NetTamer out
to see if I want to register it or go with WWW/LX (wish I could evaluate
it!, my decision would have been made already) and I have given up on the
web browser and use Telnet to a Unix box and use Lynx.  Am I missing
something?

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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> From: Longden C. Loo <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Nettamer
> Date: Thursday, December 11, 1997 9:03 AM
>
> On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, anborg wrote:
>
> > David Spoelstra wrote:
> > >
> > > The problem is that Nettamer has *two* websites.  The one that is
current
> > > is http://www.nettamer.net
> > >
> > Yes, it is ver 1.08 as of a few days ago. I downloaded it thinking that
> > it was newer and then found out that it is older than the 1.10 that I
> > already have.
>
> The one at http://www.nettamer.net is at 1.10.1 (at least as of 10
minutes
> ago...I just downloaded and ran it).
>
> - Longden
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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 17:59:36 -0600
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You're not missing anything in my opinion :) But then again, it's just my
opinion. I too wish I could evaluate WWW/LX but it's hard to beat Lynx.


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd

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On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Dan Ridenhour wrote:

> Is it just me, or does the NetTamer web browser really not even compare
> with using Lynx over a telnet connection.  I have been testing NetTamer out
> to see if I want to register it or go with WWW/LX (wish I could evaluate
> it!, my decision would have been made already) and I have given up on the
> web browser and use Telnet to a Unix box and use Lynx.  Am I missing
> something?
>
> Dan
> driden@stlnet.com
>
> ----------
> > From: Longden C. Loo <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Nettamer
> > Date: Thursday, December 11, 1997 9:03 AM
> >
> > On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, anborg wrote:
> >
> > > David Spoelstra wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The problem is that Nettamer has *two* websites.  The one that is
> current
> > > > is http://www.nettamer.net
> > > >
> > > Yes, it is ver 1.08 as of a few days ago. I downloaded it thinking that
> > > it was newer and then found out that it is older than the 1.10 that I
> > > already have.
> >
> > The one at http://www.nettamer.net is at 1.10.1 (at least as of 10
> minutes
> > ago...I just downloaded and ran it).
> >
> > - Longden
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              David Green <dgreen@WR.COM.AU>
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Dear Bill,

A little too much coffee from Starbucks before you made the call. A little
to much Coke before you typed the message below.

I think you'll find that there are a couple of timezones between NYC and
the west coast where NSW are located. So there will be some times of the
day when you wont catch them at work? This geography lesson bought to you
by an Aussie.

I purchased a NSW 6 meg machine a year ago or so and the were quite
prepared to co - ordinate it's arrival at a hotel in NYC with my arrival at
said hotel.

Also, even though I mainly lurk here, I enjoy the list, and as Mitch
pointed out, they advertise with him and make this list possible. That
doesn't excuse bad service, but it would appear that yours might have been
more of a perception of bad service based on personal bias?

I think it best in our community we don't cut off our nose despite our
face.

David

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> From: Bill Rodgers <rodgersb@MS.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: NSW Lack Of Service
> Date: Friday, 12 December 1997 4:11
>
> I read the post about NSW's $99 upgrade and started salivating!!  I could
upgrade my LX and have something that would be clearly superior for my
purposes to the PalmPilot which I am thinking about buying.  So I waited a
few hours until they opened and gave them a call.  I had a question
regarding whether the upgrade was end user installable.  And guess what...I
got an answering machine that basically said..."There's noone to take this
call and we won't take a message either so fax us or call back later."  It
did not include a hint of "we're sorry but..."  Well, that attitude from a
vendor really hacks me off.  Especially when I can walk down the street and
get a PalmPilot pro for $350.  Maybe I'm just too old fashioned but I've
gotten to the point where I refuse to buy from a company that exhibits the
attitude that customers are some kind of second class citizens.  I guess
I'll be taking a walk...
>
> Bill Rodgers
> Software Consultant
> Currently in NYC
>
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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:32:27 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: 320LX

> > All I see any more is 320LX ,  320LX, 320LX...
> >
> > Why don't someone start a nice mail list for the 320LX???
>
> <flame shield on>
>
> I assume 320LX users do not have the knowledge needed to start a
> mailing list. They do not miss even the most basic features such as
> being able to search an appointment in the appointment book. So I
> would not assume they even know what a mailing list is nor how you
> set up one without a mouse. Maybe we should help them.
>
> <flame shield off>
>
> Andreas
>

Must be nice to feel so superior to everyone else, of course getting your
head through doorways must be tough.

To be technical this list IS called the HPLX list, not the
HP95LX+HP100LX+HP200LX-ONLY list. It might be nicer, and show that you are
a decent and intelligent person, if you directed people with questions
about HPC's to the HPC list, which currently enjoys about equal volume and
alot better mannered people.

WindowsCE-Talk <WindowsCE-Talk@WindowsCE.com>

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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 20:08:40 -0500
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> Also, even though I mainly lurk here, I enjoy the list, and as Mitch
> pointed out, they advertise with him and make this list possible.

Not true. The list is hosted by Al Kind and the University of Connecticut.
Thanks Al! You're doing a great job.

The NSW and Shier Systems sponsorship is used to host the web server at
Palmtop.Net and the ftp site at One Net Communications.

Mitch

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> I think you'll find that there are a couple of timezones between NYC and
> the west coast where NSW are located.

I think Bill was more irked by the attitude of the message; than that there
was no-one there:
> It did not include a hint of "we're sorry but..."  Well, that attitude
> from a vendor really hacks me off.


I have noticed an alarming increase in grumpiness on this list recently.

Too much caffiene? I don't know - it used to inspire flights of
fancy...  Perhaps it's just the natural aggression and intolerance of
human beings - it has to be expressed somewhere: in squishing that
(programming) bug; or on the football field. But perhaps, dear reader,
this list is not the best place for it. There are many newsgroups
apparently dedicated to it <g>

But if we have to live in a jungle, why not take out the anger on
the 320lx? <G> As a lesser of two evils, that's probably a better target;
until the 6**lx series come out, of course.  Then the boot will be on
the other foot; those that lived by the sword etc etc.


But really, I don't think we should persecute the 320lx users;
instead, we should *forgive* them.  For they know not what they do. <g>


--
Brendan Macmillan               PROJECT: Using information theory (MML)
bren@cs.monash.edu.au                     to evaluate generative models
http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren         of nursery rhyme melodies.
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Somebody wrote:
>
> > All I see any more is 320LX ,  320LX, 320LX...
> > Why don't someone start a nice mail list for the 320LX???

Relax....
Questions from 300/320/360LX users will be better
asked on the WinCE List, available from
           http://HPC.net/
(available as individual message or daily digest)
or mailto:windowsce-talk@windowsce.com?subject=subscribe

A new processor based HPC List is at:
  http://scribers.midwest.net/phusion/mg.html
  HPC-SH3 processor Mailing List 1/12/97
  mailto:mdaemon@wearehope.com
  Put "subscribe phus" in the body

OR for more discussion go-to:
    news:comp.os.ms-windows.ce
    news:microsoft.public.windowsce
    news:comp.sys.handheld
*Please do not cross-post "wince" chat in
 comp.sys.palmtops as "palmtops" refers to a
 smaller size than "Handheld" (which is the
 "H" in HPC) rather than how you hold the box)

cheers
John
Team HP200LX NZ

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: I have noticed an alarming increase in grumpiness on this list recently.
:
: Too much caffiene? I don't know - it used to inspire flights of
: fancy...  Perhaps it's just the natural aggression and intolerance of
: human beings - it has to be expressed somewhere: in squishing that
: (programming) bug; or on the football field. But perhaps, dear reader,
: this list is not the best place for it. There are many newsgroups
: apparently dedicated to it <g>

I think we should remember that we _are_ human beings.  (Well,
most of us. ;)  Anyone heard of Earl Vickers?  I didn't think so.
In any case, he made a song about the WELL conference system,
which was very similar to a mailing list.  Here's the lyrics, and I
think we should all abide by them:

They say respect is circular
They say your karma returns
They say what you do
will come back to you
They say lots of things but some folks never learn

        Don't Piss in the WELL
        You'll be drinking that same yellow water
        You are what you think
        So don't pee where you drink
        or you'll be more peed off than you ought'er

        Don't Piss in the WELL
        Don't pollute the waters we're drinking
        You get what you give
        So don't sh*t where you live
        or we won't give a sh*t what you're thinking

You can't expect to love everyone
But hate is like a disease
Life's full of hassles
Some people are assholes
and some of them have their own user-I.D.'s

        But Don't Piss in the WELL
        and don't poison the thoughts of each other
        Don't piss off your sisters
        and bother your brothers
        and possible future significant others

        Don't Piss in the WELL
        ...We don't login to your toilet
        This is our monochrome cyberspace home
        and we wouldn't want someone to spoil it

(Urinstrumental)

        Don't Piss in the WELL
        and don't act like you didn't do it
        You're what you pretend
        Better watch what you send
        Take care who you flame
        or you'll get back the same
        We're all human beings
        So watch where you're peeing
        and Don't Piss in the WELL, oh no,
        Don't Piss in the WELL (what I said)
        Don't Piss in the WELL
Copyright 1995 Earl Vickers

That's copied straight from his web site.

Got an MPEG 2 or Sun Audio player?  Go here.  It's worth it.
http://www.well.com/user/earl/dontpiss.html

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

The Internet isn't a network of Pentium II's connected with T5
fiber optics - more along the lines of 110 baud land line connections
over rusty wires to compulsive ZX81's.

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Author:  Non-HP-TCBORDP (TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us) at HP-ColSprings,shargw1
Date:    12/11/97 5:32 PM


> > All I see any more is 320LX ,  320LX, 320LX...
> >
> > Why don't someone start a nice mail list for the 320LX???
>
> <flame shield on>
>
> I assume 320LX users do not have the knowledge needed to start a
> mailing list. They do not miss even the most basic features such as
> being able to search an appointment in the appointment book. So I
> would not assume they even know what a mailing list is nor how you
> set up one without a mouse. Maybe we should help them.
>
> <flame shield off>
>
> Andreas
>

Must be nice to feel so superior to everyone else, of course getting your
head through doorways must be tough.

To be technical this list IS called the HPLX list, not the
HP95LX+HP100LX+HP200LX-ONLY list. It might be nicer, and show that you are
a decent and intelligent person, if you directed people with questions
about HPC's to the HPC list, which currently enjoys about equal volume and
alot better mannered people.

I sure like to object to that. I was with does people and when someone
said why can't it do this and why can't it do that and why can the 200lx
do all that it looked like the entire list came unglued. I think WinCE
user drink to much coffee or coke. They should learn to relax and take
there beloved WinCE machine on top of a mountain like Pikes Peak and
program an new game or something. Oh I forgot they can't do that with out
the Desktop. So sorry.!

Helmut in Colorado

WindowsCE-Talk <WindowsCE-Talk@WindowsCE.com>

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> I think you'll find that there are a couple of timezones between NYC and
> the west coast where NSW are located.

I think Bill was more irked by the attitude of the message; than that there
was no-one there:
> It did not include a hint of "we're sorry but..."  Well, that attitude
> from a vendor really hacks me off.

I have noticed an alarming increase in grumpiness on this list recently.

Too much caffiene? I don't know - it used to inspire flights of
fancy...  Perhaps it's just the natural aggression and intolerance of
human beings - it has to be expressed somewhere: in squishing that
(programming) bug; or on the football field. But perhaps, dear reader,
this list is not the best place for it. There are many newsgroups
apparently dedicated to it <g>

But if we have to live in a jungle, why not take out the anger on
the 320lx? <G> As a lesser of two evils, that's probably a better target;
until the 6**lx series come out, of course.  Then the boot will be on
the other foot; those that lived by the sword etc etc.

But really, I don't think we should persecute the 320lx users;
instead, we should *forgive* them.  For they know not what they do. <g>

Do you mean to say that the 6xx will be a better machine, an
enhanced 200LX or another deadbeat loser like the 32x?

yor pal al....................................................

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Longden - I'm prpobably asking a dumb question but if your files are on the
flash card, once you set up each machine with it's own EMM driver, can't you
just swap flash cards and go?  What am I missing?

Thanks for any help you can give me on this.

Aloha - bob    \ooo_
.........................................
>Date:    Thu, 11 Dec 1997 06:51:31 -0800
>From:    "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
>Subject: Re: New memory prices...
        ....snip.....
>Thanks for the info Mitch. I have a backup LX (2mb) that I'd like to make
>compatible with my T2T upgraded 6mb "workhorse". I see from the ad that
>the $99 upgrade is for 4mb (ie, 2mb upgraded to 6mb, 1mb to 5mb), which
>makes it an attractive offer.
>
>Unfortunately (and <anyone> please correct me if I'm wrong), the upgrade
>is not fully compatible with the T2T upgrade (ie, I wouldn't be able to
>use the T2T EMM drivers). I know there's another EMM driver out there, but
>ideally, I'd like to make the 2nd unit close enough to just swap flash
>cards and go...not have to worry about which EMM driver is needed for
>which.
>
>- Longden

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At 05:07 PM 12/10/97 -0600, you wrote:
>I have a friend at work that was selling a copy but he was wanting
>something like $30. What does it sell for new?

$49.95

John Stafford -- http://pw2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.html --
johnws@ix.netcom.com
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Hi Brian,

I just got around to reading the 3 documents that Michael Stocker sent me at
the end of November.  And yes, one of them is a document that David Hamacek
wrote.  I assume that is the document you're referring to.  I'll check to see
if that is the same one I have a copy of from one of the Compuserve libraries
(I'm sure it is).  It seems different somehow.  Its probably just because I
saw so many of his other postings during that time.  He really helped a lot of
people with Agenda!  Just as you have just done by forwarding the docs.  :-)

Regards,
David Runge

In a message dated 97-12-11 01:04:04 EST, you write:

<< I had tried to reach David Hamacek last year without success.  I took
 the liberty of forwarding a copy of his file with the Agenda FAQ to
 those people who requested it so I expect that most people on this list
 who have tried Lotus Agenda on their 100/200 have seen the article.

 Brian
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I've got it around here somewhere I'm sure.  If someone else didn't already
give it to you through the list, I'll find it for you.  You don't have web
access?

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Hi Tim,

Some other group now supports SC.  They *are* on the web.  I think I found it
by searching for Software Carousel.  Oh, wait... just found their Email
address in my trusty palmtop phone book.  Write to support@group32.com.  I
think their phone number is 954-581-3330.

I got the update about 2 months ago when I got my new 2mb unit through HP
Express Exchange and wanted to make sure I had everything up to date.  Don't
know of any enhancements.  Maybe some bug fixes?  I had a little trouble
installing it from the .ZIP file they sent me via Email 'cause they screwed up
and also didn't give me detailed instructions.  (You *must* run the
installation program.)  If you have any trouble, let me know.  They gave the
update to me for free after I proved I was a registered owner (from a couple
years ago, I was among the first dozen or so people to get it).

Regards,  David

In a message dated 97-12-11 04:33:05 EST, you write:

<< Hi David,
        I'm a Software Carousel user but I'm stuck with version 6.80.  When did
 you get 6.92?  Do you know what the chnages are between 6.8 and 6.92?  I
can't
 find Sunshine Software on the web, dou you know of a web site?

 Cheers,
 Tim. >>

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I am sure it has been posted here before, but I am looking for a list of
14.4K and 28.8K modems that work with the 200LX.

Can someone point me to the right place?

Karl

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It's not a dumb question. I frequently reboot the LX and I load autoexec
and config.sys from a: (which right now refers to device=c:\tremm.sys).

If I were to use another EMM scheme on another machine, you're correct in
saying that I should be able to just swap cards... but if I had to reboot
the machine (such as after my daily modem use or after the occasional
runaway program locks up the system), I'd have to remember to edit the
a:config.sys to refer to another EMM driver. A small hassle to be sure,
but I REALLY LIKE to keep my life SIMPLE <g>.

If I have another EMM driver, that's another set of instructions, files
and command options to keep track of in order to do essentially the same
thing, and that's a redundancy I'd prefer also not to deal with...even at
the cost of a few more $$.

And who's to say that the applications won't be affected by a difference
in the EMM? Guess I'm a worry wart...comes from doing disaster planning.

- Longden


On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Bob Graham wrote:

> Longden - I'm prpobably asking a dumb question but if your files are on the
> flash card, once you set up each machine with it's own EMM driver, can't you
> just swap flash cards and go?  What am I missing?
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me on this.
>
> Aloha - bob    \ooo_
> .........................................
> >Date:    Thu, 11 Dec 1997 06:51:31 -0800
> >From:    "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
> >Subject: Re: New memory prices...
>         ....snip.....
> >Thanks for the info Mitch. I have a backup LX (2mb) that I'd like to make
> >compatible with my T2T upgraded 6mb "workhorse". I see from the ad that
> >the $99 upgrade is for 4mb (ie, 2mb upgraded to 6mb, 1mb to 5mb), which
> >makes it an attractive offer.
> >
> >Unfortunately (and <anyone> please correct me if I'm wrong), the upgrade
> >is not fully compatible with the T2T upgrade (ie, I wouldn't be able to
> >use the T2T EMM drivers). I know there's another EMM driver out there, but
> >ideally, I'd like to make the 2nd unit close enough to just swap flash
> >cards and go...not have to worry about which EMM driver is needed for
> >which.

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anborg <anborg@eagle.seed.net.tw> wrote;

anborg>The question is, can you run Chinese on the HP200LX? I saw a reference
anborg>somewhere to
anborg>Japanese. Japanese being derived from Chinese has similar problems of
anborg>displaying non-Western characters. Otherwise, the character sets are
anborg>different and the entry systems are different. However, it seems to me
anborg>that it should be possible. Anybody done this?

Art;
The short anser is yes.
I can not give you the generic perspective because I'm not the expert.
But, I can give you one program name which I tured-up from the Palmtop
Paper. It is called NJCGA.EXE. The following is extract of the readme
file. I have not used this program myself.

>NJCGA.EXE is a CGA version of NJSTAR V2.1, it can only display 11 lines
>of Chinese and there is no pull-down menu due the CGA resolution.
>     :
>It is free to use NJSTAR CGA version. use of NJSTAR EGA/VGA/SuperVGA version
>should be registered after 30 days trial period. If you have installed
>Windows 95, you should visit our web site (www.njstar.com.au) to download
>NJWIN Multilingual Support System, and NJSTAR Chinese WP 4.0 for Win95.
>     :
>Hongbo Date Systems,  PO Box 40,  Epping NSW 2121,  Australia
>Tel: +61-2-(9)8690821 Fax: +61-2-(9)8690823  CIS: 100032,2724
>Email: hongbo@njstar.com.au    Web: http://www.njstar.com.au/

You can check their web site, or post your query on the ML if you
want more info.

bye for now.
--
Atsushi Tomozawa
NEC Engineering, Ltd. | e-mail: tomozawa@neec.ho.nec.co.jp

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Hi,

In The HP 100LX/200LX Developer's Guide- page 7-227 you find following:
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m_getdtm

This call returns the system time as represented by the DTM stucture.

* Syntax:    void m_getdtm(DTM far *dtmp)
* Parameters DTM far *dtmp    Pointer to the DTM structure
* Returns    None
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I need to get the System Time with this function, but I can't figure out
how the Pointer works and how I should initialize it. In which format do I
get the time?
As I understand, I can't use traditional ways to get the time since this
will be an EXM program. So if anybody knows how the above function works-
Please let me know.

Thanks and Regards,

Jorgen
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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 07:55:40 -0600
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              "Steindorf, Eric" <estein@KCC.COM>
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The thread on Stacker has me interested in compressing the 4M flash ram
on my EXP combo card. I don't have Stacker, but have DBLSPACE from my
MS-DOS 6.2 disks.
Anyone know if DBLSPACE will work, or would I be opening a nasty can of
worms trying?
Any suggestions on where to get my hands on Stacker 4.0? I haven't seen
it as a stand-alone product & don't really want to buy DOS 7 just for
Stacker.

Thanks,
Eric

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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 08:09:52 -0600
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Does there exist a database of U.S. (Phone) Area Codes in .GDB format?
I checked the S.U.P.E.R. database site and couldn't find one.  Anyone
have one?  (I know the World Time Database is close, but is old and
doesn't reflect many changes in large metro cities now having added
other codes.)

Les

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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 06:14:54 -0800
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              Jay Carlson <jaycar@MICROSOFT.COM>
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Comments: To: "HELMUT_GROSSINGER@HP-COLSPRINGS-OM1.OM.HP.COM"
          <HELMUT_GROSSINGER@HP-COLSPRINGS-OM1.OM.HP.COM>

bravo helmut. it's really high time for all the ce bitching to stop. the ce
and lx platforms are targeted for two different user markets. like
everything else economic, if the demand is there for the lx, it will
continue to be offered. if the demand is not there, then it'll be up to us
to be innovative and clever enough to keep our favorite platform alive.

Jay

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> List;HELMUT_GROSSINGER@HP-COLSPRINGS-OM1.OM.HP.COM
> Sent:         Thursday, December 11, 1997 6:49 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: 320LX
> Importance:   High
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator
> _________________________________
> Subject: Re: 320LX
> Author:  Non-HP-TCBORDP (TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us) at
> HP-ColSprings,shargw1
> Date:    12/11/97 5:32 PM
>
>
> > > All I see any more is 320LX ,  320LX, 320LX...
> > >
> > > Why don't someone start a nice mail list for the 320LX???
> >
> > <flame shield on>
> >
> > I assume 320LX users do not have the knowledge needed to start a
> > mailing list. They do not miss even the most basic features such as
> > being able to search an appointment in the appointment book. So I
> > would not assume they even know what a mailing list is nor how you
> > set up one without a mouse. Maybe we should help them.
> >
> > <flame shield off>
> >
> > Andreas
> >
>
> Must be nice to feel so superior to everyone else, of course getting your
> head through doorways must be tough.
>
> To be technical this list IS called the HPLX list, not the
> HP95LX+HP100LX+HP200LX-ONLY list. It might be nicer, and show that you are
> a decent and intelligent person, if you directed people with questions
> about HPC's to the HPC list, which currently enjoys about equal volume and
> alot better mannered people.
>
> I sure like to object to that. I was with does people and when someone
> said why can't it do this and why can't it do that and why can the 200lx
> do all that it looked like the entire list came unglued. I think WinCE
> user drink to much coffee or coke. They should learn to relax and take
> there beloved WinCE machine on top of a mountain like Pikes Peak and
> program an new game or something. Oh I forgot they can't do that with out
> the Desktop. So sorry.!
>
> Helmut in Colorado
>
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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:20:25 +0100
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On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Steindorf, Eric wrote:

> The thread on Stacker has me interested in compressing the 4M flash ram
> on my EXP combo card. I don't have Stacker, but have DBLSPACE from my
> MS-DOS 6.2 disks.
> Anyone know if DBLSPACE will work, or would I be opening a nasty can of
> worms trying?
> Any suggestions on where to get my hands on Stacker 4.0? I haven't seen
> it as a stand-alone product & don't really want to buy DOS 7 just for
> Stacker.
>
Stacker is included with OpenDOS (www.caldera.com), but I'm not sure that
that particular version will work with anything but OpenDOS. So unless
you install that as well it will be useless. (I'm guessing here, but it
would seem to make sense. In any case, you'd better check)

A shareware alternative to Stacker is Jam, which I've run (on my desktop,
though) with good results.

Regards,

Laust
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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 09:29:49 -0500
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              Bill Rodgers <rodgersb@MS.COM>
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Dear Bill,

A little too much coffee from Starbucks before you made the call. A =
little
to much Coke before you typed the message below.

No, not this time.

I think you'll find that there are a couple of timezones between NYC and
the west coast where NSW are located. So there will be some times of the
day when you wont catch them at work? This geography lesson bought to =
you
by an Aussie.

I regularly travel between all points east and west US.  I am intimately =
familiar with time zones, thank you very much.  I used the appointments =
facility in my 200LX to schedule the call during west coast business =
hours.  If you would re-read my original post, you will see that I =
mentioned this.  It would be better if you stuck to the facts and your =
opinions of those facts when publishing in a public forum such as this.

I purchased a NSW 6 meg machine a year ago or so and the were quite
prepared to co - ordinate it's arrival at a hotel in NYC with my arrival =
at
said hotel.

Good to hear.

Also, even though I mainly lurk here, I enjoy the list, and as Mitch
pointed out, they advertise with him and make this list possible. That
doesn't excuse bad service, but it would appear that yours might have =
been
more of a perception of bad service based on personal bias?

Yes, maybe.  I perceive bad service if I can't reach a vendor or leave a =
message when I call.  IMNSHO, this is a reasonable perception in today's =
US business environment.  I don't know about other countries.  Does =
anyone on the list think I'm off-base on this perception?

I must say that I have received, via email, an apology from an official =
at NSW.  I consider that sufficient to correct for any discourteousness =
I experienced from NSW's answering system.  I do recommend that they =
re-record the message I received so it is a little more customer =
friendly.

I think it best in our community we don't cut off our nose despite our
face.

True.  And in addition, this is an excellent forum for airing such =
complaints and getting resolutions started.  If it were not for this =
forum, I, as a single customer, would have no influence with NSW.  =
However, when I can publish the facts and my opinions thereof on a =
public forum such as this, I get their attention.  I believe this is =
good for both the customer and the vendor.

Since I posted the message on this forum, I have heard from more than =
one satisfied customer which tells me and everyone else on the list that =
what I experienced was an anomoly.  NSW has a good customer service =
reputation and I just happened to stumble across a weakness in their =
system.  Now they know about it.

If I can contact them, I will initiate the purchase of the upgrade.

-- Bill
David

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> From: Bill Rodgers <rodgersb@MS.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: NSW Lack Of Service
> Date: Friday, 12 December 1997 4:11
>
> I read the post about NSW's $99 upgrade and started salivating!!  I =
could
upgrade my LX and have something that would be clearly superior for my
purposes to the PalmPilot which I am thinking about buying.  So I waited =
a
few hours until they opened and gave them a call.  I had a question
regarding whether the upgrade was end user installable.  And guess =
what...I
got an answering machine that basically said..."There's noone to take =
this
call and we won't take a message either so fax us or call back later."  =
It
did not include a hint of "we're sorry but..."  Well, that attitude from =
a
vendor really hacks me off.  Especially when I can walk down the street =
and
get a PalmPilot pro for $350.  Maybe I'm just too old fashioned but I've
gotten to the point where I refuse to buy from a company that exhibits =
the
attitude that customers are some kind of second class citizens.  I guess
I'll be taking a walk...
>

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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:41:42 +0800
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              "Benito Yu C. B." <bycb@MNL.SEQUEL.NET>
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Jay Carlson wrote:

> bravo helmut. it's really high time for all the ce bitching to stop.
> the ce
> and lx platforms are targeted for two different user markets. like
> everything else economic, if the demand is there for the lx, it will
> continue to be offered. if the demand is not there, then it'll be up
> to us
> to be innovative and clever enough to keep our favorite platform
> alive.
>
> Jay
>
> >

i can't understand why 200LX users can't nicely co-exist with 320LX and
so forth.  it's just a natural progression in the hp palmtop evolution.
some say i should have waited for the color screen version, but i
realize too that i'd have to wait some time for the battery consumption
to improve to make that a practicable solution.  when they get that
battery problem solved, then maybe i might just get the next model.  and
i hope the other people don't say that that new machine "sucks".

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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:15:40 -0500
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              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Greetings List Members:

        A few items have surfaced recently which I feel must comment
on:

1- HP WinCE machines: The main focus of this LIST is the support of=
 the
DOS based HPLX series. Many of members own WinCE machines as well.
There is a significant knowledge base here and I expect WinCE questions
to surface  occasionally.

        - If you must interject your Anti-WinCE opinion, please do it
in the spirit of humor! The WinCE machine you trash today, may be
burning your toast tomorrow.

        - If a WinCE question appears, respond off LIST so as not to
waste the time who would rather not be bothered by this material.


2- General LIST anger: I do not support this LIST so you can vent you
anger at XYZ Co. or the XYZ9000 WinCE device. If you  have a problem
with someone/thing, make your inquiry in the vain of "Has anyone else=

had a problem with XYZ Co." rather than "XYZ Co. S**Ks".

        - Too much hate & anger in this world already, please keep it
off this LIST.

Have a Nice Day :-)


PS: Please address any comments on this post to my personal EMAIL.

Cheers,
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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 07:17:37 -0800
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Software Carousel was being sold by Sunshine Software. But someone told me
that Sunshine has sold out to another software company. I don't know if this
is true but Sunshine's old number was (800) 553-0400.



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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:08:43 +0000
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I wonder if the HP can be configured with multiple com ports???
Laurence Young
Design Engineer
Pannier Corporation

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For the person on the list who asked what the new price of IS is:

Info Select is available from Micro Logic Corp. 201-342-6518. Make sure you
ask for the DOS version. All their development efforts are devoted to their
Windows 95 version of their software, so the old version is somewhat
unsupported. However they still sell it with the manual.

I know the Agenda users on this list like Agenda, I think you'll find IS much
quicker (well its quicker than almost any PIM). Also I don't have to run daily
cleanup routines to make sure my PIM works. I've never had IS crash.

Also if you call ask if the Win Ver 1.0 is still available. I don't think it
is but if it is I'd like to know. Win Ver 1.0 and the DOS version of IS used
the same file format. I'd like to get my hands on the 1.0 version of IS.
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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 08:44:54 -0600
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Bravo Helmut. it's really high time for all the ce bitching to stop. the ce
and lx platforms are targeted for two different user markets. like
everything else economic, if the demand is there for the lx, it will
continue to be offered. if the demand is not there, then it'll be up to us
to be innovative and clever enough to keep our favorite platform alive.

yea boo, can we put our money where our mouths be.
Are there enough of us with the bread and expertise to start a
business?  Alternatively to collaborate with someone like Times2?
to perpetuate, better still to enhance the LX, to go out on out on our
own to a real 3xx like to 386 or perchance to dream of a 486/vga in
a LX case.  The technology is there, the problem is to put the pieces
together into the package.

yor pal al..............................................................

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any way to keep the 320 lx stuff from my mail box ? bad enough with all the
other junk mail i get.
tx roy

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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:03:13 -0500
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              Kiyoshi Akima <kakima@USA.NET>
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>For my benefit (and others who either can't read Japanese nor get the
PTP), can you tell me what's the approx current price and what kind of
battery life you get? Thanks.

I was trying to avoid sounding like a commercial, but due to popular demand:

The list price is given as 58,000Yen, which at yesterday's exchange rates is about $450US. The power consumption is given as 50mA max for the memory card (with the modem powered off, there's a program provided to turn power on/off) and 170mA max for the modem and memory.

I know HP lists the max power at 150mA, but I have had no trouble with it. In fact I had more trouble with another modem that was listed at 160mA, that card is now 'permanently' installed in a Libretto.

I really can't comment on battery life, I change my batteries (Rayovac Renewal brand rechargeable alkalines) about every two months. But then, I have AC adaptors at my desk in the office and at my desk at home. And if I'm near a phone line, I'm usually near a power outlet.

Also, this is not my 'primary' card. I have a 40M flash card that contains most of my software, and this card is the one in the machine most of the time. The 20M combo contains all of my telecom software, including various fax software.

Again, I have no affiliation with I-O Data other than being a satisfied customer.

Kiyoshi Akima
kakima@usa.net

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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:14:13 -0500
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Why not assign a subject prefix to all WinCE related postings, such as CE:

This way listees can set up their e-mail to filter out such messages?

--- On Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:55:25 EST  Agentrapid <Agentrapid@AOL.COM> wrote:

>any way to keep the 320 lx stuff from my mail box ? bad enough with all the
>other junk mail i get.

_____________11:12:18 AM EST, 12/12/97_____________

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In response to the NSW issue, I've gotten my upgrade through them mostly
because at the time, they offered a better warrantee than T2T.  Since then,
I've conversed with them on various matters including a warrantee fix and
advice on products.  I've found them to be extremely helpful and have been
very satisfied with their service and pricing.  I highly recommend them for
all your palmtop needs.

Jeffrey Veiss (jsv@bms.com)                   PO Box 5200
Network Engineer                              Princeton, NJ 08543-5200
Corporate Telecommunications                  (609) 419-6141
Bristol-Myers Squibb, Inc.                    (609) 419-7110 (fax)

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Does anyone know where I might be able to acquire a copy of the version of
Norton Utilities that works with the 200lx?  I think I've heard that either
version 4.5 or 5.0 works.  In particular, I'm trying to find UNERASE.EXE
I'm hoping it'll handle undeleteing files on JAM'd disks better than the
DOS 5.0 undelete.exe.

Thanx!

Jeffrey Veiss (jsv@bms.com)                   PO Box 5200
Network Engineer                              Princeton, NJ 08543-5200
Corporate Telecommunications                  (609) 419-6141
Bristol-Myers Squibb, Inc.                    (609) 419-7110 (fax)

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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 17:33:58 +0100
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Hi:

I'm trying to program directly the IR port on the HP200LX but had no success.

What I want is to transmit modulated data using the UART. I have a
modulated receiver for 56KHz, and according to the developer's manual, the
IR port can be set up to transmit modulated data using the UART 16x  clock
as modulation source.

What I do is:

1- Use the BIOS to select IR communication. I let bios deal with powering
on the IR and such things.
2- I program directly the IRFMT and IRCNT Hornet registers (BIOS doesn't
provice methods to do this).

I program the IRCNT register to all zeros, and enable the IRURT and MDSEL
bits in the IRFMT register. UART is configured for 3600 bps (x16 clock =
57600). This should transmit the UART data with single pulse transmission,
which is NOT what I need. Well, It works somehow, but random bits are
transmitted when I send bytes to the UART.

Then, if I enable the PMOD bit in the IRFMT register, which should turn the
IR into pulse train transmission mode which IS what I need. And strange
things happen:

As soon as I enable that bit, the receiver output gets stuck to 0. This
means that the IR led is transmitting a continuous 57.6 KHz pulse train.
But why ?... I still haven't sent ANY data to the UART, and according to
the developer's guide, UART output is '1' and that should leave modulation
OFF.

But after one or two seconds of this behaviour, a transient of strange
pulses can be seen (I still haven't sent ANY data to the UART, just enabled
the PMOD bit) and then transmission is disabled.

The only explanation I can find to the last is that there's some circuitry
to protect the LED driver from overload, and it disables the LED if it's ON
too much time (or it's modulating at 50% too much time).

But still don't know why the transmission gets activated with this
configuration:

IRFMT (Hornet register index 10h) = 00011100b (IRURT, MDSEL and PMOD enabled)
IRCNT (Hornet register index 11h) = 00000000b

Any clues ?

Thanks. Nacho.

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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:01:00 -0600
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Al -
Thanks for the offer! I'd be forever in your debt for the files...send
them on!
You're right about STAC. I found there technical repository on STACKER ,
but it didn't help me much.

Thanks again,
Eric Steindorf, EStein@KCC.com

>         AFAIK: STAC does not support STACKER anymore. I can send you
> the necessary files if you like (a couple 100kB), and directions how
> to
> install. I use STACKER on my 1414LXM 4mB and it works great! It will
> chew up a bit of conventional memory if you don't have EMS though;
> still 4mB -> 10mB makes it worth while for me. I have a double speed
> 8mB machine and I have my c:\ stacked as well.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> *       ____           __      _     __    _         __
> * ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
> */ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
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Comments: To: "Jeffrey Veiss (CTG)" <jsv@BMS.COM>
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At 11:14 AM 12/12/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Does anyone know where I might be able to acquire a copy of the version of
>Norton Utilities that works with the 200lx?  I think I've heard that either
>version 4.5 or 5.0 works.  In particular, I'm trying to find UNERASE.EXE

v5.0 works

i bought mine from a private party via www.ebay.com



John Stafford -- http://pw2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.html --
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Greetings:

        Did the "Hinge Crack Survey" data ever get coalesced & posted
anywhere?

Cheers,




*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
*                        |___/
*Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124

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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 19:46:24 -1
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   >>than the 1.10 that I  already have.
   >The one at http://www.nettamer.net is at 1.10.1 (at least as of 10
   >minutes ago...I just downloaded and ran it).
   >- Longden
Any updates? new features?

Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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On 1997-12-12 NOSPAM.palmtop@ihug.co.nz said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >I prefer 1.08pt for email & news as its smaller with no
   >time lookup hassles so it may be good to keep this option
   >as 1.10.1 can be found at the Nettamer page.
   >As with the **LX's the latest is not always the best!
   >cheers
   >John
   >Team HP200LX NZ
This link says version 1.08, but is a link to (one of) the nettamer site(s).
On this site is (at least was) the only version ready for download 1.10. I
wondered where 1.10.1 came from and took the liberty to point mitch to this
typo/outdated description.
I had no intention to create a new tread on this.

Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:37:43 PST
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>Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>,
>              Al Kind <MCHEM1@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
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>Subject:      Hinge Crack Survey
>To:           HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>
>Greetings:
>
>        Did the "Hinge Crack Survey" data ever get coalesced & posted
>anywhere?
>
>Cheers,

Has HP even accepted that there is a hinge crack problem and are they
willing to replace the covers?

Sal>
>
>
>
>*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:07:08 -0600
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If I wanted to network my palmtop, or perhaps a PC in the same
processor/OS class, using TCP/IP protocol, what software should I begin
collecting to this end?  I am using NetBIOS/NetBEUI stuff now, but would
like to explore TCP/IP and as I want to do this any place _but_ windows,
I can't find any current stuff.  Please keep in mind, I have access to
email only, no internet.  Read this and if you get board post a
follow-up, thanks.

Phil

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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:35:37 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Can someone out there tell me where to find Easy Share?  At least, I think
that's the name of it - a program that allows sharing data between
different databases.

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On Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:15:40 -0500, Al Kind wrote:

snip

>        - Too much hate & anger in this world already, please keep it
>off this LIST.

Good points Al.

Additionally, I have noticed a few posts recently where the quoted
material uses no quote character, which makes it very difficult to
decipher the quoted material from the reply. Could I please make a
plea for folks to take a little more care in preparing replies, to
make it easier for the rest of us. A little more snipping wouldn't go
amiss either

Thank you all for reading, and we now return you to normal service.

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
Team 200LX

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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:15:49 -0500
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>Are there enough of us with the bread and expertise to start a
>business?
>...

I doubt it. Creating a 200LX clone is not easy. I have yet to see a
company capable of matching HP when it comes to quality and power
consumption.

Can any of the CE's be forced to boot DOS on an A: drive?

Perhaps a HP-LX systems programmer would be interested in developing and
selling a modified freeDOS and some specialized device drivers that could=

be used in a modified 320LX?

Jorgen

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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:30:48 -0500
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>i can't understand why 200LX users can't nicely co-exist with 320LX and
>so forth.  it's just a natural progression in the hp palmtop evolution.

I think many of us believe it is an "unnatural degression" or something t=
o
that effect? Very few of us are interested at the moment and with a spare=

200LX, we do not have to be interested for some considerable time.

I believe we should keep the two machines apart or at least mark the
messages clearly (and only if the list-server can reject unmarked message=
s
automatically!). The overlap of interest is minimal and there are more th=
an
enough HP95/100/200LX messages.

Jorgen
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>* Syntax:    void m_getdtm(DTM far *dtmp)
>* Parameters DTM far *dtmp    Pointer to the DTM structure
>* Returns    None

This is a pointer to a structure called DTM. "far" means that it is calli=
ng
a segment different from the one of the program.
The structure is already defined somewhere, probably in a .h file.

{
  DTM mydtmp;

  ...
  m_getdtm(&mydtmp);


will read the data into the fields of the structure. I don't believe it
should be necessary to init it.

You can then fetch the fields with normal dot notation:

  printf("%02d/", mydtmp.hour);

(I do not have the kit so I don't know the actual names of fields).
Email me directly if problems.

Jorgen
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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 19:07:00 -0500
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Comments:     Originally-From: jim.henry@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)
From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193
Subject:      TCP/IP and DOS-5, how?
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Phil,

-> If I wanted to network my palmtop, or perhaps a PC in the same
-> processor/OS class, using TCP/IP protocol, what software should I
-> begin collecting to this end?  I am using NetBIOS/NetBEUI stuff now,
-> but would like to explore TCP/IP and as I want to do this any place
-> _but_ windows, I can't find any current stuff.  Please keep in mind,
-> I have access to email only, no internet.  Read this and if you get
-> board post a follow-up, thanks.

I know I'm picking a nit here, but.... if you have access to email, you
do indeed have Internet access.  Many people new to the online world
seem to equate the www to the Internet, or being "online".  The truth is
that the www is just one service running on the Internet, and  IMO, not
even the most important one. 5 or 6 years ago there was no www, but
there definitely was an Internet and many of us had Internet access.
You can always retrieve files and web pages via email.  (Sorry but as
someone  who offers Internet access but does not offer www access, I
couldn't keep quiet. <g>) Back to your question now, the only suggestion
I have is to check out guesswork.com to see how they are doing it, as
they sell a palmtop/nic card/ network analyzer package. I know
Desqview/x supports DOS based networking and server services, but I
know that won't run on a 100/200LX.

Jim

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From:         Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      IR programming question
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I would guess that the BIOS routines are too slow. You will probably have=

to make the program interrupt driven. You can try to do it without timeou=
t
(using the clock interrupt) if it is only for a printer as the printer is=

probably way too slow (if you point in the right direction, that is). If =
it
is binary data, you should have a timeout.

I have never been able to send faster than about 2400 over a modem with
BIOS routines.

I would be very interested in your progress!

Unless there is a general interest in this, maybe further correspondance
should be private? Anybody else interested?

Jorgen
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Date:         Fri, 12 Dec 1997 19:57:46 EST
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Benito Yu C. B wrote:

...i can't understand why 200LX users can't nicely co-exist with 320LX and
...so forth.  it's just a natural progression in the hp palmtop evolution.

the answer is in the question.  to 200lx users, the wenCE operating system is
neither natural nor progress from dos.  it is a perverse turn away from
progress.  it dehumanizes the user.  it says,

     "do a few simply things, and do them out way.  if you can't do it our way
      you don't need to do it any way.  resistance if futile."

to a winCE user, this reaction makes no sense.  the two can surely work
together, but there is no good reason to try to make them play together.  the
dos people will all be laughing, and the winCE people will not get the jokes.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish
                team hp260lx

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->Can any of the CE's be forced to boot DOS on an A: drive?
->Perhaps a HP-LX systems programmer would be interested in developing
->and selling a modified freeDOS and some specialized device drivers that
->could be used in a modified 320LX?

There is apparently an XT-CE emulator  in the works and due out in Q1 98.
I have no idea how effective it is but it is an interesting development.
There is information about it and screen shots at
http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html.

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...i can't understand why 200LX users can't nicely co-exist with 320LX and
...so forth.  it's just a natural progression in the hp palmtop evolution.

I will tell you one reason - it is certainly true for me.  Jealousy, plain and
simple.  Here we have GREAT palmtops, with loads of features, advanced screens
and interfaces, and they don't run anything we want to run!  A low-power
386-compatible chip in a chassis like this would be SO welcome.  I saw a 360LX
the other day - the screen is AWESOME!  And I like the whole stylus thing much
more than I thought I would when I first saw the 300LX.  HP can really put out
a great product.  And we are put out that they are not targeting the same
market that made their initial palmtops - the 95, 100, and 200LX - a very
successful venture.
        I am encouraged by IBM's PC 110, with a 486 chip in it.  When (oh, please, let
it be soon) it is available in the US I WILL BUY ONE.  I think it is a much
more logical successor to the 200LX than the 300 series is.  Though it is
pretty chunky, it has the functionality I want.

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Cameron

http://www.adisoft-inc.com

is the web site you want.

Can someone out there tell me where to find Easy Share?  At least, I think
that's the name of it - a program that allows sharing data between
different databases.

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I don't know where you might find one, but keep an eye out @ BestBuy - I =
have found GREAT deals there on some of their books (NT 4.0 Server, =
Workstation, 95/NT 4.0 Regedit book, numerous language (Java, Dbase, C++ =
etc).  $9.99 each (at least in Maryland U.S.A.)  Wouldn't be superised =
to see development kits there too (they have NT resource kits on sale =
too.)
  Don't know if they have BestBuy in NZ or not, but this may be of =
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Ray
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MS have an Exchange Server Development Kit.  Can anyone tell me where I
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Has anyone ever had problems with their power sockets on an HP200LX?  I
have to twist and turn and replug the power cord to have it stay powered
on consistantly.  I no longer have warranty on the machine and if I
returned it to HP they would remove my much required and apreciated
memory and speed upgrades.  I have not been able to disassemble the
machine.  I tried and after removing all of the screws, it still would
not come appart.  Is there some trick to taking it appart?  Also does
anyone know if HP sells parts for these things besides the replacement
part kit?  Hopefully the power socket is a seperate part and not part of
the motherboard.

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On Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:03:18 -0500, you wrote:

My 200LX just experienced the hinge crack thing... Damn!

PS From first hand experiences, I think if we all started to complain
to HP directly, it might influence them to do something for us...

Season's Greetings to all...

>Greetings:
>
>        Did the "Hinge Crack Survey" data ever get coalesced & posted
>anywhere?
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>
>
>*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
>* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
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My 200LX just experienced the hinge crack thing... Damn!

PS From first hand experiences, I think if we all started to complain
to HP directly, it might influence them to do something for us...

What about.

Season's Greetings to all...

>Greetings:
>
>Did the "Hinge Crack Survey" data ever get coalesced & posted anywhere?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Would magik glue lovingly applied help with this hinge
problem?????????????
>
yor pal al.........................................................

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     Hi!
     I used supper glue on mine. It cracked after just two weeks. Used a
     fine needle and applied the supper glue on both sides of the crack and
     pressed them together and guess what? they have been together ever
     since May this year.


     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-hobchi (hobchi@MCI2000.COM) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    12/12/97 8:54 PM


My 200LX just experienced the hinge crack thing... Damn!

PS From first hand experiences, I think if we all started to complain
to HP directly, it might influence them to do something for us...

What about.

Season's Greetings to all...

>Greetings:
>
>Did the "Hinge Crack Survey" data ever get coalesced & posted anywhere?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Would magik glue lovingly applied help with this hinge
problem?????????????
>
yor pal al.........................................................

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Hi.. I need to know if the 4M 200LX is really $450 at Office Depot or
not.  I don't have one in my state and don't really have time to call them
either.

Getting stuff stolen sucks.  I'm just hoping it does cost $450, because
that I can afford.  Not $600.

Thanks in advance.

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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fiber optics - more along the lines of 110 baud land line connections
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>->Can any of the CE's be forced to boot DOS on an A: drive?
>->Perhaps a HP-LX systems programmer would be interested in developing
>->and selling a modified freeDOS and some specialized device drivers tha=
t
>->could be used in a modified 320LX?
>
>There is apparently an XT-CE emulator  in the works and due out in Q1 98=
=2E

I would prefer not to use an emulator if it can be avoided. A such is an
extra level of bugs and I will be surprised if it runs much faster than a=

200LX. I would rather continue with 200LX. But just imagine: a 320 with r=
aw
DOS would run as fast as a raped ape!

But thanks for the info. And yes, it is great news for 320 owners.

Jorgen
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Date:         Sat, 13 Dec 1997 04:50:17 -0500
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>So you know EXM programming- have you played around with NKIT? NKIT is
>great and together with Borland's Turbo C 2.0 which I found on the

No, I have never tried EXM programming. I never use the PIM stuff (though=

it like all HP's stuff probably is very good).

I am a professional C-programmer and have been teaching computer science
the past couple of years here in London.

I am a great fan of Borland's products too! I am a heavy user of their
assembler, C and Pascal.
 =

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Phil Drummond wrote:
>
> If I wanted to network my palmtop, or perhaps a PC in the same
> processor/OS class, using TCP/IP protocol, what software should I begin
> collecting to this end?  I am using NetBIOS/NetBEUI stuff now, but would
> like to explore TCP/IP and as I want to do this any place _but_ windows,
> I can't find any current stuff.  Please keep in mind, I have access to
> email only, no internet.  Read this and if you get board post a
> follow-up, thanks.
>
> Phil
>
I don't know if this information is of any help to anyone but I am truly
surprised. I saw an ad in BYTE magazine by QNX software. They said visit
their web site. <http://www.qnx.com/iat> and you can download on one 3.5
inch disk their complete rtos with windowing system, html browser,
embedded web server, TCP/IP, internet dialer, and so on. I downloaded
this and I am really amazed that they really do provide all of that and
on a single floppy. Of course, it is heavily compressed. They are
selling to embedded systems. However, their disk requires a 386
processor and VGA display. In a sense, this sounds like a commercial
version of Linux.

This seems like an offer of an alternative to MS that is almost too good
to be true. The only thing that bothers me is that I have not yet found
a pointing device that I really like, and, using a windowing system
intended for a mouse without the mouse is too painful to endure. I would
certainly be interested in hearing other peoples comments.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:
>
> I would guess that the BIOS routines are too slow. You will probably have
> to make the program interrupt driven. You can try to do it without timeout
> (using the clock interrupt) if it is only for a printer as the printer is
> probably way too slow (if you point in the right direction, that is). If it
> is binary data, you should have a timeout.
>
> I have never been able to send faster than about 2400 over a modem with
> BIOS routines.
>
> I would be very interested in your progress!
>
> Unless there is a general interest in this, maybe further correspondance
> should be private? Anybody else interested?
>
> Jorgen
>
Perhaps, they could just copy me at my E-Mail address. I am interested
but do not expect to be able to follow up with anything useful for
several months.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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> > bravo helmut. it's really high time for all the ce bitching to stop.
Yes

> i can't understand why 200LX users can't nicely co-exist with 320LX
Yes

> it's just a natural progression in the hp palmtop evolution.
But I can't agree here: similar size, similar company; but more like
parallel evolution. More like Macintosh vs PC.

Hence the religious wars; and yet each has its points.


--
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bren@cs.monash.edu.au                     to evaluate generative models
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somebody wrote:
> >Did the "Hinge Crack Survey" data ever get coalesced & posted anywhere?
Hi
I am not the original crack surveyor,
but unofficially I counted :
23 Cracks and 24 NO Crack out of about 295 list
contributors since the crack posts started.

Any update on these numbers?

cheers
John
Team HP200LX NZ
Remove "NOSPAM." from reply address OR mailto:palmtop@ihug.co.nz

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>
> >So you know EXM programming- have you played around with NKIT? NKIT is
> >great and together with Borland's Turbo C 2.0 which I found on the
>
> No, I have never tried EXM programming. I never use the PIM stuff (though=
>
> it like all HP's stuff probably is very good).
>
> I am a professional C-programmer and have been teaching computer science
> the past couple of years here in London.
>
> I am a great fan of Borland's products too! I am a heavy user of their
> assembler, C and Pascal.

So, Jorgen.  You may be the right person whom I can put the
following question.

I stay always under DOS and almost never start SysMgr either.
I use a command-line editing TSR called WCED which support
tcsh-like filename-completion ... etc. (instead of DOSKEY).
I'm quite satified.

Now that I use vi as my primary editor. I'd like to change
the codes of vi (calvin), so that I filename-completion of
WCED works while it tries e.g. to read external files.

I've noticed that within DEBUG and GNUPLOT, the filename-
completion still works, but not within KERMIT, ....

What I'd like to know is: what's the difference? I mean
which function should one use, so that the filename-completion
of WCED or DOSKEY works?  Probably not fgets() ...? Which
function? or DOS/BIOS-service should I use to get command-line?

Or how do GNUPLOT and DEBUG get thier command-line input
string while a prompt is displayed?

Any info will be appreciated. I think such topic would be
too technical for the list... ?

regards
Rudi

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I have to agree. I own both machines (someone stop me!).
I have a speed enhanced 5MB HP200, and a Compaq Companion
that I got at the $99 sale at Office Depot. I find that each has
its strong points. If an upgraded HP200 were available with the
keyboard and backlight and faster processor of the WinCE machine
I wouldn't even have been tempted by the $99 price.
    As it is, I still use my HP200 every day. The WinCE machine is
sitting on a shelf upstairs, I've been using it to surf the net late at
night;
it is good at that. If I had to throw out one machine, it would be the
Compaq
because I have to run some DOS communications software for my business
on the HP that is NEVER going to be ported to Windows. I like the
flexibility of the HP200; I can get software for it to do just about
anything.
Not so with WinCE. The programs that are available for the WinCE machine
are slick though, and fun to use.

I don't see anything wrong with walking the line between the two machines
because they are really totally different. After having a WinCE machine I
can see that it has it's strong points, but that it isn't going to replace
my HP200.

-Bryan




Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > > bravo helmut. it's really high time for all the ce bitching to stop.
> Yes
>
> > i can't understand why 200LX users can't nicely co-exist with 320LX
> Yes
>
> > it's just a natural progression in the hp palmtop evolution.
> But I can't agree here: similar size, similar company; but more like
> parallel evolution. More like Macintosh vs PC.
>
> Hence the religious wars; and yet each has its points.

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> I can't understand why 200LX users can't nicely co-exist with 320LX

Yes

>It's just a natural progression in the hp palmtop evolution.
But I can't agree here: similar size, similar company; but more like
parallel evolution. More like Macintosh vs PC.

Hence the religious wars; and yet each has its points.

.....but some points are more correct (better) than others.
as some products are better than others..............
else get a WinCE.....................................

yor pal al.....................................

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> Does there exist a database of U.S. (Phone) Area Codes in .GDB format?
> I checked the S.U.P.E.R. database site and couldn't find one.  Anyone
> have one?  (I know the World Time Database is close, but is old and
> doesn't reflect many changes in large metro cities now having added
> other codes.)

I have one which I believe came from Library 11 on Compuserve several
months ago.  It needed some upgrading to include the latest area codes
but, on the whole, was reasonably complete.

Joe Casey

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On 1997-12-10 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
 HP>I'd still appreciate a message from anyone who has an HP-200LX
 HP>battery cover for sale or advice from anyone who knows where I can
 HP>get one fairly cheaply...
Well I am looking for a HP 100LX cover. Somebody out there knows where to
find one?


After they make styrofoam, what do they ship it in?

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On 1997-12-10 bryan@onyxgfx.com said:
 br>Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:35:23 -0700
 br>Does anyone have the documentation that goes with these utilities?
 br>I can't get the DCS95 program to do anything but hang the system.
 br>There isn't much online help on the disk.  I fact, it only
 br>describes how to connect the cables.
Well I looked into the HP Cpack utilities and did not even find a program
named DCS95. What should it do anyhow?


A program is just a big bug that happened to work.

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 17:34:08 +0000
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On 1997-12-12 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >>The one at http://www.nettamer.net is at 1.10.1 (at least as of 10
   >>minutes ago...I just downloaded and ran it).
   >>- Longden

   >Any updates? new features?

Sorry, I just downloaded it to confirm that the version was at 1.10.1
for the benefit of others who may have thought otherwise. I'm unaware as
to the changes/improvements in 1.10.1.

I continue to use version 1.08pt, as I don't have the time or inclination
to upgrade, especially given a flurry of bug reports on the Nettamer mailing
list after 1.10's release (sorry, I don't have specifics).

- Longden

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Subject:      Re: 320LX and..................

Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 17:34:14 +0000
Message-ID: <19971213173406.AAB8079@12.64.8.106>

On 1997-12-13 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >>->Can any of the CE's be forced to boot DOS on an A: drive?
   >>->Perhaps a HP-LX systems programmer would be interested in
   >>->developing and selling a modified freeDOS and some specialized
   >->device drivers that could be used in a modified 320LX?

   >>There is apparently an XT-CE emulator  in the works and due out in
   >Q1 98

   >I would prefer not to use an emulator if it can be avoided. A such
   >is an extra level of bugs and I will be surprised if it runs much
   >faster than a 200LX.

I believe the web page mentioned that the emulation was something like
a 10 mhz XT....not much faster than a plain 200LX and slower than a 2x
LX. But if the guy's claim is legit (and to me this is still a big IF),
we should keep in mind that this appears to be a one-man show, written
in a few months....and this is the first cut.

Faster and better emulators may follow if the first was that easy to write.

Maybe we'll eventually find Linux booting on a WinCE and then wouldn't
that gladden our hearts <g>.... (but I still wouldn't hold my breath).

- Longden


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Subject:      Re: 320LX

Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 17:34:27 +0000
Message-ID: <19971213173406.AAD8079@12.64.8.106>

On 1997-12-13 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >> it's just a natural progression in the hp palmtop evolution.

   >But I can't agree here: similar size, similar company; but more like
   >parallel evolution. More like Macintosh vs PC.

   >Hence the religious wars; and yet each has its points.

A profound statement of the human condition.

As they say, "different strokes for different folks".

- Longden

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Comments: cc: caseyjl@WORLDNET.ATT.NET

Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 17:34:21 +0000
Message-ID: <19971213173406.AAC8079@12.64.8.106>

On 1997-12-13 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >> Does there exist a database of U.S. (Phone) Area Codes in .GDB
   >>format?  I checked the S.U.P.E.R. database site and couldn't find
   >>one.  Anyone  have one?  (I know the World Time Database is close,
   >>but is old and  doesn't reflect many changes in large metro cities
   >>now having added  other codes.)

   >I have one which I believe came from Library 11 on Compuserve
   >several months ago.  It needed some upgrading to include the latest
   >area codes but, on the whole, was reasonably complete.
   >Joe Casey

I have one also that I cobbled together from various lists (including one
at work). Unfortunately, it has alot of duplicate entries for area codes
tho those duplicates have complimentary information (ie, one may have
state and the other may have specific locations). I have 347 entries and
have been reluctant to clean up the list because:
1) it changes all the time
2) I don't need to check area codes that often.

Hard to believe that an actively maintained current area code list can't
be easily found somewhere on the Net (and then converted to CSV for import
into a .GDB automagically).

If anyone knows of such a list, please email me.

Joe, I'd like to get a copy of your list via email if you're not planning
to post it on SUPER. Thanks.

- Longden

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anyone have a schematic of  a 200lx i need to do some after lightning repair
work i hope it is only the power supply area.
tx Roy

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Date:         Sat, 13 Dec 1997 13:24:18 EST
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I know that they have used copies of stacker 4.0 at:

   Practical Computer
   703-321-3003
   pcitech@erols.com

they are located in Springfield, Virginia.  I saw a couple of copies (manuals
& all) there just this morning.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Date:         Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:27:02 -0800
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I agree - they (me included) have a site for CE; let's quit flaming and get
on with life.  I have valid uses for my CE palmtop, same as my home
powerhouse and my weakling but networked workplace PC & a major powerful
CADDworkstation.  They all interconnect (sort of)...
The point is they all contribute to gettin my work & life better....
(if my Aunt had a Hoover & my Mom an Electrolux....
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uses for my CE palmtop, same as my home powerhouse and my weakling but =
networked workplace PC &amp; a major powerful CADDworkstation. =
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ENUFF FLAMING!  get back to what this list is about - you flamers are worse
than the CE owners looking to hook onto a list - maybe a footer w/a link on
the bottom of the page?

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Glad you spoke out !!!
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Date:         Sat, 13 Dec 1997 22:07:12 -0500
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On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Helmut Grossinger wrote:

>      I used supper glue on mine. It cracked after just two weeks. Used a
>      fine needle and applied the supper glue on both sides of the crack and
>      pressed them together and guess what? they have been together ever
>      since May this year.

An extra tip I just figured out the other day:  Superglue does not attack
scotch tape.  So I put scotch tape over the crack, then cut a slit along
the crack.  Then, as hulut did, I used a needle to get the glue in the
crack.  However, the scotch tape prevented the outside of the case from
melting from excess glue.  It was very effective.  I can't say that the
crack isn't noticable, but I've heard horror stories on this list of some
palmtop casess that got pretty distorted from superglue.

Good luck!

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Date:         Sat, 13 Dec 1997 20:00:57 -0600
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Phil, For the HP 100 or 200LX you can use either MINUET from the
University of Minn. or NETTAMER which is a program written specifically
for the HP LX palmtop. You Nettamer uses PPP (Point to Point Protocol) to
connect, and Minuet uses SLIP (Serial Line Internet Protocol) to connect
but I think it also is possible to use a program called etherppp.exe to
make a PPP connection with Minuet. I have not as yet tried that
combination of software. I have tried Nettamer to connect my HP 200LX to
the University network here.

I hope this helps. Good luck in your endeavors.
Steve
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On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:

> If I wanted to network my palmtop, or perhaps a PC in the same
> processor/OS class, using TPC/IP...
> I would like to explore TCP/IP and as I want to
> do this any place _but_ windows,
> Please keep in mind, I have access to email only, no internet.
> Phil

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Date:         Sun, 14 Dec 1997 06:02:57 -0500
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Few users reported screen problems after exiting LXPIC 6.0.
(Dots or whole lines remain on the screen). This happens only
on some palmtops. I fixed the problem through a patch in
LXPIC.COM. If you are concerned, please download LXPIC again
from the known sites, the ZIP file is updated.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Dec 1997 00:06:37 +1300
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From:         John Shaw <palmtop@IHUG.CO.NZ>
Subject:      Re: Still looking for a battery cover...
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Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

> Well I am looking for a HP 100LX cover.

The battery covers on the 100lx and 200lx are identical and
interchangeable except for colour 100LX=black 200LX=greenish

Cheers
John

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Date:         Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:56:44 +0000
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Hi everyone, i'm new to this list and I have a few question for you.
I hope you can help me.
I have a HP 200LX and I am thinking in connecting it to the Internet.
I am thinking in using Nettamer, but I don't know if I can use it with a
IRC client program (Which one?).
I also Would like to know if i can use a normal external modem with the 200LX.

Thnk you for your help.
Miguel Reis

genio@mail.telepac.pt

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Date:         Sun, 14 Dec 1997 09:05:25 -0700
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Greetings list members,

I am working to document the many uses of handheld and palmtop computers. My
interest spans the many different models and makes (e.g., all varieties of
HP*LX, Newton, Psion, Pilot, etc.) and I am sending similar requests to lists
representing each particular device. In the present case, I'm focusing on the
HP95LX through HP200LX.

I could be happy with the uses documented in the user-manuals of each machine
(and my relatively new 200LX manual is surprisingly worn!), but I'm
particularly interested in your own ingenuity and "non-standard" uses. With
that in mind, I would like to make a request to members of this list. Please
send me an E-mail and respond to the following questions:

     1. What were the _intended_ uses of your machine, when you bought it?
     2. How well did the machine fulfill those intended uses?
     3. What else have you discovered could be done with your machine,
        that assists you?
     4. How did you learn about those new things?

Of course, I'm also very curious to hear your anecdotes, horror-stories, etc.

To reduce the potentially distracting bandwidth to this list, please respond to
me directly. I will compile a publicly accessible Internet listing of my
findings. This listing will report data from all of my queries to users of each
different type of device.

Finally, if a similar resource already exists, please point me in that
direction -- there is no need to repeat this job if it has already been done.

Happy holidays.

_don

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Date:         Sun, 14 Dec 1997 11:54:32 -0500
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              Jim Gonzalez <gonzalez@LADS.IS.LMCO.COM>
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In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:34:58 EST."

Longden Loo wrote:

> Hard to believe that an actively maintained current area code list can't
> be easily found somewhere on the Net (and then converted to CSV for import
> into a .GDB automagically).

Bellcore (Bell Communications Research) is the home of the North
American Numbering Plan Administration.  They are the authoritative
source of area code information for "the United States, Canada,
Bermuda, and eighteen Caribbean nations."  I've found one listing on
their site:

    http://www.bellcore.com/BC.dynjava?NANPAreaCodesCHPGeneralContentHomePage

Unfortunately, the data is wrapped in lots of HTML, some with
hyperlinks.  A sed or awk wizard might manage to make some us of this.

                                -Jim.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Dec 1997 21:01:31 +2000
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Beginning october there was some commotion about cookies,
"eat them or you do not have access".
What is the progress? Could somebody inform us about the developments?



  This   tagline   is   slightly   buggy.  

Net-Tamer V 1.10  - Registered

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Date:         Sun, 14 Dec 1997 15:36:25 +0100
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Subject:      Re: Hinge Crack Survey
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>>      I used supper glue on mine. It cracked after just two weeks. Used a
>>      fine needle and applied the supper glue on both sides of the crack and
>>      pressed them together and guess what? they have been together ever
>>      since May this year.
>
>An extra tip I just figured out the other day:  Superglue does not attack
>scotch tape.  So I put scotch tape over the crack, then cut a slit along
>the crack.  Then, as hulut did, I used a needle to get the glue in the
>crack.  However, the scotch tape prevented the outside of the case from
>melting from excess glue.  It was very effective.  I can't say that the
>crack isn't noticable, but I've heard horror stories on this list of some
>palmtop casess that got pretty distorted from superglue.

Just a suggestion:

Has anybody tried epoxy to glue the crack ?

Some kinds of epoxy have similar color than the 200LX case, and once solid,
they're hard as a rock.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Sun, 14 Dec 1997 12:38:36 -0600
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Do a save-as   .txt and your almost there.

>



> American Numbering Plan Administration.  They are the authoritative
> source of area code information for "the United States, Canada,
> Bermuda, and eighteen Caribbean nations."  I've found one listing on
> their site:
>
>     http://www.bellcore.com/BC.dynjava?NANPAreaCodesCHPGeneralContentHomePage
>
> Unfortunately, the data is wrapped in lots of HTML, some with
> hyperlinks.  A sed or awk wizard might manage to make some us of this.
>
>                                 -Jim.
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Date:         Sun, 14 Dec 1997 11:19:50 -0700
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              Brian_Girling <girling@ICA.NET>
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From:         Brian_Girling <girling@ICA.NET>
Subject:      Re Hinge crack survey

It's interesting that someone said on the list a time ago that 1994 models
(Serial numbers SG4...) don't seem to have the problem.

I have a 94 model and did not respond earlier to the survey because mine did

not have a problem.  Still doesn't :-)

Perhaps it would be interesting to get a true yes/no response from EVERYONE
on the list. I would be happy to compile a list.  This might help those with

the problem with some recourse if we keep track of serial numbers with the
problem.

To keep the list from clogging up, please email me directly at
GIRLING@ICA.NET with:

Name
Email address
HP Model
Base or upgraded ram amount (upgrading might be looked negatively by HP
because case has been opened)
Serial number


Cheers and Merry Christmas



Brian Girling
Travel Ventures Canada Inc.     http://users.ica.net/girling/ventures

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Date:         Sun, 14 Dec 1997 21:28:47 -1
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              Bas Pruijn <126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL>
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Subject:      filename completion
Comments: cc: chen@GET.UNI-PADERBORN.DE

   >I stay always under DOS and almost never start SysMgr either.
   >I use a command-line editing TSR called WCED which support
   >tcsh-like filename-completion ... etc. (instead of DOSKEY).
   >I'm quite satified.
I am familiar with doskey. Is wced the same kind of program, or is it more
like the filenamecompletion under unix. (pres esc. or tab and the filename
is filled in further)? If so: where can I find wced; does it work under
win95/winnt?

Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

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Date:         Mon, 15 Dec 1997 09:49:04 +1300
Reply-To:     NOSPAM.palmtop@ihug.co.nz
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From:         John Shaw <palmtop@IHUG.CO.NZ>
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Brian_Girling wrote:
>
> It's interesting that someone said on the list a time ago that 1994 models
> (Serial numbers SG4...) don't seem to have the problem.

Out of the 24 people who mentioned CRACK there were 4 that were
SG4** year serial nos

> I have a 94 model and did not respond earlier to the survey because mine did
> not have a problem.  Still doesn't :-)

28 responded with a NO-crack message and 8 were SG4** serial
including yours and my 100-410 & 200-430.

PRESENT SURVEY INTERPRETATION:
-The possibility of a crack appears similar to all serial numbers
 (without HP production figures for each weekly batch)
-the posibility of a crack is not related to left or right handed
 opening or closing
-The probability of a crack is less with older and more with newer
-some 7** numbered cracked very early in their life
-Hinge friction rating is more relevent than serial number
 (newer models with tighter hinge had more problems)

There are about 250 who have passed through this list since the
crack survey who are yet to respond although I believe most will
be a NO

I am not the original surveyor and as you saw from the last
survey its better discussed in the list so we can all keep track
of it.

cheers
John
Team HP200LX NZ
Remove "NOSPAM." from reply address OR mailto:palmtop@ihug.co.nz

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Hi all,

<yawn>

It was mentioned we could get together to complain to HP about this, and
then up pops Helmut at HP Corado Springs to say that he had the same
problem and solved it with a spot of superglue.

When mine went, it was a few months old, I called HP Palmtop Support here
in the UK, and they sent me a new one (with no serial number) by return of
post. I was able to download my files by IR port, and sent the old one back.

The serial number of the old one is handwritten on a sticker inside the
battery compartment.

</yawn>

Bye,


Tony

ICQ :        3166307
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I believe the majority of the people of this country are decent, honest,
moral and hard-working. The minority are just the opposite, but it's our
fault........we elected them.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Dec 1997 09:02:05 +0900
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anborg <anborg@eagle.seed.net.tw> wrote:

anborg>Thank you very much. That is great. I realize about the number of lines.
anborg>I had already figured that one out. Then there are some little matters
anborg>like, 'are these the simplified or the orthodox characters' and, 'what
anborg>sort of entry system is used'. However once there is some solution, I
anborg>can have a lot of fun with my Chinese friends.

I'm glad you found my piece of information usefull. My message is to indicate
'Yes' to your question. I am sure there are a lot of other Chenese Language
processing softwares in the field, and I hope you find usefull software for
you.

# I am sending this through ML, because my server wouldn't take your address.

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Date:         Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:44:55 -0800
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For those of you who use NT 4.0., keep in mind that you can get a
nice concise explanation of any DOS command, by typing:

    HELP <command-name>

For example, by typing

   HELP xcopy

Then you can find out how to do a lot of things,. like:

    Overwrite existing read only (protected files) without warning
(dangerous but sometimes very useful)
    Preserve the status of a file when copying it to another drive.
    Make the system stop and prompt you before copying.
    Overwrite existing files without a warning.
    Set the status of files to "read only"

See DOS is not dead on Window NT, but supported with a very nice
on-line help system!

I think you can get a list of all DOS commands by simplying typing HELP.


At 10:08 AM 12/11/97 +1100, you wrote:
>> > I use a program, ENTER.COM to "push a carriage return to the keyboard"
>
>> DATE<CR.DAT >>BOOTLOG.DOC
>Actually, this is the exact solution I hit upon to do this. But then
>some wise soul on this list advised me of an arcane (and undocumented
>feature, AFAIK) of echo. The following should do what you want:
>
>ECHO. | DATE
>
>>         2) Type "copy con cr.dat" and press ENTER
>So con is a virtual file, which is just whatever you type: stdin in C.
>Thanks for this tip!
>
>
>
>Disclaimer: NONE of these methods presently work on my palmtop! It must be
>all the TSR's I have loaded...
>
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>bren@cs.monash.edu.au                     to evaluate generative models
>http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren         of nursery rhyme melodies.
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Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
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Date:         Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:01:12 +1100
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Comments: To: dwiniec@bsu.idbsu.edu
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_don,

>      1. What were the _intended_ uses of your machine, when you bought it?
C programming; MIDI file playing; lecture note-taking; idea jotting;


>      2. How well did the machine fulfill those intended uses?
C programming;
        Excellent. Did my best programming for my Masters of Computing
        in cafes on the hp200lx, accompanied by several lattes.
        But the screen & keyboard really are too small (obviously)

MIDI file playing;
        Sounds good, but akward (using a separate MIDI device), so I
        don't actually use it very much.

lecture note-taking;
        This works; but again it's a bit fiddely; I'm considering the
        external keyboard (Newton), but on the other hand, the less
        practice you have at hand writing, the slower you are in the
        exam...

idea jotting;
        this is good. But again it's more natural on paper.


>      3. What else have you discovered could be done with your machine,
>         that assists you?
Various unix-style script programming languages: sed, awk
Other things I've considered, but don't actually use:
        external Newton keyboard
        internal memory upgrade


>      4. How did you learn about those new things?
Usenet mainly. Also from colleagues in the Department I computer science I
study in, to a lesser extent. (This hplx mailing list is very interesting,
but it's focus is not on unix & DOS: however, I have met several people
on this list who have given me many useful tips.) Software from the
SUPER site.


> Of course, I'm also very curious to hear your anecdotes, horror-stories, etc.
I've dropped it on concrete so many times now, that I don't worry about
it anymore (almost).




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Date:         Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:03:55 +1100
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>    >I use a command-line editing TSR called WCED which support
>    >tcsh-like filename-completion ... etc. (instead of DOSKEY).
>    >I'm quite satified.
> I am familiar with doskey.

> is it more like the filenamecompletion under unix. (pres esc. or
> tab and the filename is filled in further)?
That's right

> If so: where can I find wced;
Garbo, I think; but probably SimTel too.

> does it work under win95/winnt?
It's a DOS program. But how would you use filename completing in Win95,
anyway? :)



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Hi all.

I calculated the space requirements of some folders I wanted to place
on an uncompressed 8mb exp lxm flashcard and concluded that I'd have
2.1mb of free space when i loaded everything. To my surprise after
loading the drive there was only 1.4mb of free space! Double checked
the arithmetic and sure enough I *should* have had 2.1 - that meant
that dos 'ate' over 700k due to the 4k clusters on this drive! Wow...
that is a lot to give away when pc card real estate prices per mb is
still very high (especially on this card).

Does anyone know of a utility to reduce the amount of 'slack space' on
this flashcard? I tried the 1kcluster program on super but it doesn't
work because the exp apparently does not keep two copies of the file
allocation table... Any suggestions other than compression software to
avoid this problem?

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On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Ignacio Garc=EDa P=E9rez wrote:
> Just a suggestion:
> Has anybody tried epoxy to glue the crack ?
>=20
> Some kinds of epoxy have similar color than the 200LX case, and once soli=
d,
> they're hard as a rock.

My first guess is that it would not work as well because epoxies will fill
the crack.  Superglue bonds the two halves of the crack directly, thereby
restoring it to (close to) it's original form.  If the epoxy fills the
space inside the crack, the two pieces of plastic are being forced apart,
adding more stress.  It may be possible to carve away some of the plastic
then fill in the larger area, so the two pieces are not stressed.  Don't
know if this really matters.

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DK KD                           http://www.concentric.net/~dskramer
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              Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
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If anyone is interested I have the Puma Intelli Sync software for the
200LX that I would like to sell. Ihaven't registered the software and it
still includes the registration card. It includes the three disks, and
the owners manual and the original packaging. If anyone is interested
email me with an offer.


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd

    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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: I calculated the space requirements of some folders I wanted to put
: on an uncompressed 8mb exp lxm flashcard and concluded that I'd have

They're directories, dammit.  Methinks the computer industry made
"folders" to represent someone or another's view of a hierarchial
filesystem.
Just like some computers use the typewriter's "Return" instead of data
processing's "Enter".  Real Computers don't have mice or return keys.  I
have a Real Computer.  You have a 200.  It's a Real Real Computer, as it
has directories, enter, no mouse, and a Real attitude (i.e. DOS 5). This is
a 200LX list.  We're Real People, and we use Directories.  Get that? :)

Sometimes I just kill myself.

Now to what I was going to talk about.  Has anyone considered writing an
e2fs driver for DOS?  e2fs would work better than FAT on flash cards because
of its distributed allocation table.  The card would wear more evenly, thus
making it last longer.  I did this with a hard drive: the FAT area wore
out, so
I put it in my Linux box and formatted it e2fs and it runs just fine,
because e2fs
doesn't have to use the dead part.

Just a thought.  I have no idea how quickly or efficiently it would run on
a
200.

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

The Internet isn't a network of Pentium II's connected with T5
fiber optics - more along the lines of 110 baud land line connections
over rusty wires to compulsive ZX81's.

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Subject:      Re: Slack space

Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 06:29:15 +0000
Message-ID: <19971215062913.AAA4300@12.64.36.107>

On 1997-12-15 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >Just like some computers use the typewriter's "Return" instead of
   >data processing's "Enter".  Real Computers don't have mice or
   >return keys.  I have a Real Computer.  You have a 200.  It's a Real
   >Real Computer, as it has directories, enter, no mouse, and a Real
   >attitude (i.e. DOS 5).

Is that a slogan for the LX? "The palmtop with an attitude".

Ian, I take it that you've managed to replace your stolen LX...found it
at the Office Depot? I looked there this last weekend, but there weren't
any LX's to be found...tho I did find that OD was clearing out their stock
of Kodak DC20 digital cameras...the ones that can connect to the LX.

They were selling those for $99, tho most of the boxes they had seemed to
be returns from dissatisfied customers. I cobbled together a complete set
to keep myself busy during the holidays. Hopefully this doesn't debase my
"Real Computer" significantly <g>.

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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On Sun, 14 Dec 1997 11:54:32 -0500, you wrote:

>Bellcore (Bell Communications Research) is the home of the North
>American Numbering Plan Administration.  They are the authoritative
>source of area code information for "the United States, Canada,
>Bermuda, and eighteen Caribbean nations."  I've found one listing on
>their site:

Anyone requiring UK dialling code information should look at:

http://www.oftel.gov.uk

where they will find a file called codelist.zip. This contains various
files relating to UK codes, and it is updated monthly. They are all in
comma separated format to make importation into the database of your
choice very simple.

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
Team 200LX

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>    >Just like some computers use the typewriter's "Return" instead of
>    >data processing's "Enter".  Real Computers don't have mice or
>    >return keys.  I have a Real Computer.  You have a 200.  It's a Real
>    >Real Computer, as it has directories, enter, no mouse, and a Real
>    >attitude (i.e. DOS 5).
>
> Is that a slogan for the LX? "The palmtop with an attitude".

Or maybe the subject line...?



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>Now to what I was going to talk about.  Has anyone considered writing an
>e2fs driver for DOS?  e2fs would work better than FAT on flash cards because
>of its distributed allocation table.  The card would wear more evenly, thus
>making it last longer.  I did this with a hard drive: the FAT area wore
>out, so

ATA flash integrate a controller that transparently distributes writes so
all the flash gets more or less the same wear. If a flash sector dies, it's
automatically mapped out of the disk.

What you suggest would be good for linear flash cards.

Regards. Nacho.

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Nacho,
You are very right about different colored epoxy glues. The parts outlet at
your nearby boat store can fix you up with epoxy and tint to match it.

Dennis

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Subject:      frq. program

     Hello!

     Does any one know of a program for the hp200lx that can manage list of
     frq. .

     Thanks Yehuda.

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Subject:      Re: FS: 4 New Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA modems for sale or trade
              ($40/$50)
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Hi Ken,

I still have the non Xjack PCMCIA modem for $40 if you are interested.
Also I may be able to get ahold of two more of the xjack modems.  I have
one person that is interested, if you are willing to commit on the other
one it would be worth my effort to get them.  Let me know soon.

Thanks,

Stan


Ken A. Moore wrote:
>
> Stan,
> Do you still have a PCMCIA modem available?
> If so, I am interested in one that works well on the HP200LX. My purpose is mostly to use it on WWW/LX and WWW/Post.
> I live in Southern California.
> Please let me know. Thanks.
> Ken Moore
> KenAMoore@OmniTraining.com

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On Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:41:17 -0700 (CST), Bryan Pearson wrote:

br> I am encouraged by IBM's PC 110, with a 486 chip in it.  When (oh, =
please,
br> let
br> it be soon) it is available in the US I WILL BUY ONE.  I think it is =
a much
br> more logical successor to the 200LX than the 300 series is.  Though =
it is
br> pretty chunky, it has the functionality I want.

Bryan, I agree with you 150%. The pc110 not only seems to be a fine
machine but packs just about every feature that found its way onto the
recent palmtop 'wish-lists' that were posted here a few months ago...

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Well you would think that I would look where I am sending messages.
Sorry about sending my private response to the list.

If anyone has any Flash RAM cads for sale I would be interested.

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Dear palmtop users,
I'm quite new to the world of the HP200, as I just own one for a week....
I would like to use it as a kind of controller/datalogger using the COM1 port.
I already have some software written in Microsoft Quick Basic V 4.5 available
and running on a desktop / notebook PC.
Running the same software on the HP200 in DOS-mode results in a "can't execute"
error.

My questions :

what about compatibility of the HP200, specially concerning COM1 functions
(i.e. direct access to handshakelines, portadresses etc), in relation to a PC

what about software written in QB45 on a HP200

who has any info that could be usefull


Looking forward for any reply, thanks in advance!


Willem van der Veer
Institute for Forestry and Nature Research (IBN-DLO)
Wageningen, The Netherlands

e-mail : w.vanderveer@ibn.dlo.nl
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>From:    John Shaw <palmtop@IHUG.CO.NZ>
>somebody wrote:
>> >Did the "Hinge Crack Survey" data ever get coalesced & posted anywhere?
>I am not the original crack surveyor,
>but unofficially I counted :
>23 Cracks and 24 NO Crack out of about 295 list

I would question the Crack Survey numbers.  I know that when I replied
it was before I saw the really good picture of where the crack was
located so I said I didn't have the crack.  Now that I know exactly
where to look I can see the discoloration of the plastic which I believe
to be the plastic stressing and starting to form the crack.

If a survey is going to be valid I think it should be done via a web
site where the picture can be shown and a yes/no question can be asked.
Actually I think the responses should be yes/no/and I think I see one
starting for form.

Cheers...
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Date:         Mon, 15 Dec 1997 06:26:30 -0800
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On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, W.vander Veer wrote:

> I'm quite new to the world of the HP200, as I just own one for a
> week....  I would like to use it as a kind of controller/datalogger
> using the COM1 port.  I already have some software written in Microsoft
> Quick Basic V 4.5 available and running on a desktop / notebook PC.
> Running the same software on the HP200 in DOS-mode results in a "can't
> execute"  error.

Willem, there are several ways to run in DOS-mode on the LX and they can
greatly vary in the amount of conventional memory available to your
application. Your error message sounds like a low-memory problem. You can
allocate more memory to DOS by using <Setup><F5><advanced><DOS> and
changing the default memory for DOS (I think it's 90k).

Also, you can try running your application from outside the AppMgr menu
system (from icon screen: <menu><application><terminate all><ok>.

This should leave you in plain DOS and with a larger memory space. There
are several other options as well.. Email me if you don't find this (or
any other proposed option from the mail list) useable.

> what about compatibility of the HP200, specially concerning COM1
> functions (i.e. direct access to handshakelines, portadresses etc), in
> relation to a PC

The LX is supposed to behave very much like a PC-XT with a CGA display.
There appears to be very little written for that class of machines that
doesn't work on the LX, including a host of communication programs, so I
would have to think that COM1 compatibility is good...but I'll defer that
to the LX programmers in the group)

> what about software written in QB45 on a HP200

I believe several people use this already on the LX (I'm not one),
including performing the code development and compiles on the LX.

If you check the website mentioned on the sig line:

> HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml

It references 2 FAQ sites that would be worthwhile reading.

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:51:05 -0600
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I haven't read through the whole thing, but David Sargent's web site
appears to have a pretty thorough set of instructions (with nice photos)
for dismantling a 200. Check it out at:
http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/inside.htm

Good luck!
Eric
EStein@KCC.com

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> From:         Dan CarringtonSMTP:dc_grafx@MICROWORKS.NET
> Sent:         Friday, December 12, 1997 7:58 PM
> Subject:      HP200LX power socket
>
> Has anyone ever had problems with their power sockets on an HP200LX?
> I
> have to twist and turn and replug the power cord to have it stay
> powered
> on consistantly.  I no longer have warranty on the machine and if I
> returned it to HP they would remove my much required and apreciated
> memory and speed upgrades.  I have not been able to disassemble the
> machine.  I tried and after removing all of the screws, it still would
> not come appart.  Is there some trick to taking it appart?  Also does
> anyone know if HP sells parts for these things besides the replacement
> part kit?  Hopefully the power socket is a seperate part and not part
> of
> the motherboard.
>
> Dan Carrington
> dc_grafx@microworks.net
>

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On Sun, 14 Dec 1997 22:32:47 -0800 (PST), Ian Butler wrote:

ia> : I calculated the space requirements of some folders I wanted to put
ia> : on an uncompressed 8mb exp lxm flashcard and concluded that I'd =
have
ia>
ia> They're directories, dammit.  Methinks the computer industry made
ia> "folders" to represent someone or another's view of a hierarchial
ia> filesystem.
ia> Just like some computers use the typewriter's "Return" instead of =
data
ia> processing's "Enter".  Real Computers don't have mice or return keys. =
 I
ia> have a Real Computer.  You have a 200.  It's a Real Real Computer, as =
it
ia> has directories, enter, no mouse, and a Real attitude (i.e. DOS 5). =
This is
ia> a 200LX list.  We're Real People, and we use Directories.  Get that? =
:)

Wouldn't it be a great age if everyone else subscribed to our own
views....?

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On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Longden C. Loo wrote:

Just a little additional information.

snip
> Willem, there are several ways to run in DOS-mode on the LX and they can
> greatly vary in the amount of conventional memory available to your
> application. Your error message sounds like a low-memory problem. You can
> allocate more memory to DOS by using <Setup><F5><advanced><DOS> and
> changing the default memory for DOS (I think it's 90k).
I just checked with QB and "Can't execute" is not a QB error, but a DOS
error (command.com). This would indicate a memory problem.

> Also, you can try running your application from outside the AppMgr menu
> system (from icon screen: <menu><application><terminate all><ok>.

This is what I would suggest as well. You can then later fiddle with it in
the System Manager settings to see how much memory it actually needs.

> This should leave you in plain DOS and with a larger memory space. There
> are several other options as well.. Email me if you don't find this (or
> any other proposed option from the mail list) useable.
>
> > what about compatibility of the HP200, specially concerning COM1
> > functions (i.e. direct access to handshakelines, portadresses etc), in
> > relation to a PC

The only problem I could think of is that when you run DOS from the System
Manager, the COM port might be disabled in the setup (Check by doing
Ctrl-F1). (This is not the cause of your problem, but it might solve other
problems you get once you get the problem running.) This isn't a problem
in plain DOS, since it defaults to on. The utility SERCTL can force the
port on or off. SERCTL /O turns it off, while options /W and /I select
wire and infrared, respectively.

> The LX is supposed to behave very much like a PC-XT with a CGA display.
> There appears to be very little written for that class of machines that
> doesn't work on the LX, including a host of communication programs, so I
> would have to think that COM1 compatibility is good...but I'll defer that
> to the LX programmers in the group)
>
> > what about software written in QB45 on a HP200
>
> I believe several people use this already on the LX (I'm not one),
> including performing the code development and compiles on the LX.

I've had it running on my 200LX and it works.

Regards,

Laust
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Date:         Tue, 16 Dec 1997 08:41:43 -0800
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Hi Yehuda,

        Frq. means frequencys, as in radio to my brain.  Is that what you
intended?

Colin

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     yes!


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Hi Yehuda,

        Frq. means frequencys, as in radio to my brain.  Is that what you
intended?

Colin

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Hi Yehuda,

        I have been using Scancat Gold for two years. Scancat will also allow
the HP to control of many current radios including loading memories.
Please let me know if you have specific questions regarding you
particular application.   http://www.scancat.com/

Colin

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Can someone out there tell me where to find Easy Share?  At least, I think
that's the name of it - a program that allows sharing data between
different databases.

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Date:         Mon, 15 Dec 1997 10:15:29 -0800
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Has anyone on this list used a USRobotics 28.8 K modem with their 200 LX?

Thanks,

Karl

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Date:         Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:53:02 -0600
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I need a 100LX/200LX battery cover if anyone has a spare one from the HP
parts kit. I can trade a sealed PC Tools Deluxe for DOS v5.1 or a Stacker
3.0 for DOS Users Guide and disks (5-1/4").

Thanks to the group,
Mike Kilpatrick

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Date:         Mon, 15 Dec 1997 13:39:42 -0500
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>I would question the Crack Survey numbers.  I know that when I replied
>it was before I saw the really good picture of where the crack was
>located so I said I didn't have the crack.  Now that I know exactly
>where to look I can see the discoloration of the plastic which I believe
>to be the plastic stressing and starting to form the crack.

I would have to agree with this.  When I first looked for a 'crack,' I was
sure it was _NOT_ there.  It was not until I saw a very clear picture that I
was able to see the start of a stress fracture.  It hasn't split at this
point, but it is there none the less.


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Jeff,

I'll offer $25 including shipping.

Mike

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> have to twist and turn and replug the power cord to have it stay
* powered

You may have luck with using steel wool (or something similar) to brush off any
oxidation that may be present on the metal contacts, on the adpater plug or the
band of metal respnsible for the contact in the 200.  Be careful that you
minimize the filings or bit of abrasive that may get into the 200.

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: Is that a slogan for the LX? "The palmtop with an attitude".

In the words of countless masses of people: "Answer: Yes."

: Ian, I take it that you've managed to replace your stolen LX...found it
: at the Office Depot? I looked there this last weekend, but there weren't
: any LX's to be found...tho I did find that OD was clearing out their stock
: of Kodak DC20 digital cameras...the ones that can connect to the LX.

No.  I'm still 200-less <sob>, and it's very hard for me.  I had heard
from someone else on this list (sorry can't remember who) that some
store in Wisconsin or somewhere had 4M models for $450-something.
I guess I'll have to call that store, and come up with $450.  I can
call the store.  $450 will be a bit harder.  Maybe if 45 people sent
me ten bucks I'd be alright.  I guess it's time to write some piece
of killer software ...

: They were selling those for $99, tho most of the boxes they had seemed to
: be returns from dissatisfied customers. I cobbled together a complete set
: to keep myself busy during the holidays. Hopefully this doesn't debase my
: "Real Computer" significantly <g>.


Nice.  A digital camera for $99 is as good as they come, and,
hey, if you can connect a cheap camera to an expensive device and
not fry one or the other, you're doing great.  I remember
toasting my 386 some years ago while trying to make a serial
connection with one of my older computers - that wasn't fun.
20V AC is no good if you're sending it to the Tx line of a cheap
serial card.  Remember the simple rule when fashoning cables:
        rx -> tx, tx -> rx, except after c. ;)

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: > what about compatibility of the HP200, specially concerning COM1
: > functions (i.e. direct access to handshakelines, portadresses etc), in
: > relation to a PC

Go for it.  First you want to set the IRQ and base address in
Setup, as it defaults to nothing.  I think on most systems COM1
is 3F8h, IRQ 3.  Other than having selectable addresses, the COM
port runs a standard 8250 UART.

: The LX is supposed to behave very much like a PC-XT with a CGA display.
: There appears to be very little written for that class of machines that
: doesn't work on the LX, including a host of communication programs, so I
: would have to think that COM1 compatibility is good...but I'll defer that
: to the LX programmers in the group)

As I said above, COM1 compatability is basically guaranteed.

: > what about software written in QB45 on a HP200
:
: I believe several people use this already on the LX (I'm not one),
: including performing the code development and compiles on the LX.

Again, go for it.  I used QB45 on my 200 all the time.  It's a
wonderful portable development platform for small/old systems.

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Hi,

I was passing by Shier and found that they carry the EXP flash+modem =
card. I'm interested in the 4Mb/14.4 combo. What has people's experience =
been with the EXP combo cards?=20

I currently have a 1Mb 100LX with a 2Mb SRAM card and am very interested =
in expanding its capabilities. Most notably, I want to switch from DOS =
Quicken 3 to DOS Quicken 7 and add either Nettamer or WWW/LX. Thanks in =
advance.

George

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actually, ian, it only comes to about $1.12 per list-member.

all the same, i would be willing to pitch in my $10 bucks, if you have
something particularly "killer" in mind.  (i haven't heard of anyone proposing
a winCE 2.0 emulator for the dos platform.)

   ;-)

cordially,

lynn m, cavendish
             team hp200lx

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Hi everybody,
                I've finally decided to take the plunge and buy a flash
memory card for my 200lx.  I would be interested in what you all thought
about the current crop. Is it any advantage to get the compact flash
with adapter (in case, agh!, a guy had to go to a CE unit, or just for
future compatability with ?). Any particular models better, faster, more
or less expensive than others. Any help would be appreciated as I value
your opinions. If you don't want to name names (or possibly step on any
toes) email me privately. I won't tell. I just need feedback, memory is
high and I hate to spend my money unwisely. Thanks in adance.

                                                Terry Livingston
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I'm sorry, but it's Christmas and I just can't let this pass.  I agree on
all points, but RETURN is correct - not ENTER!  The key in question sends a
Ctrl-M which is ASCII code 13 which is "Carriage Return".  There never was
an ASCII code for ENTER.

... and all because of the teletype terminals which we started with.


David

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Date: 15 December 1997 14:09
Subject: Re: Slack space


>: I calculated the space requirements of some folders I wanted to put
>: on an uncompressed 8mb exp lxm flashcard and concluded that I'd have
>
>They're directories, dammit.  Methinks the computer industry made
>"folders" to represent someone or another's view of a hierarchial
>filesystem.
>Just like some computers use the typewriter's "Return" instead of data
>processing's "Enter".  Real Computers don't have mice or return keys.  I
>have a Real Computer.  You have a 200.  It's a Real Real Computer, as it
>has directories, enter, no mouse, and a Real attitude (i.e. DOS 5). This is
>a 200LX list.  We're Real People, and we use Directories.  Get that? :)
>
>Sometimes I just kill myself.
>
>Now to what I was going to talk about.  Has anyone considered writing an
>e2fs driver for DOS?  e2fs would work better than FAT on flash cards
because
>of its distributed allocation table.  The card would wear more evenly, thus
>making it last longer.  I did this with a hard drive: the FAT area wore
>out, so
>I put it in my Linux box and formatted it e2fs and it runs just fine,
>because e2fs
>doesn't have to use the dead part.
>
>Just a thought.  I have no idea how quickly or efficiently it would run on
>a
>200.
>
>Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
>Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
>
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Season's Greetings to All,

        I am new to this forum but my computer time goes back to PDP days and
punch cards.  These were also the glory days for RPN and programable
calculators.  HP's used RPN and had an ENTER key!  Isn't it a wonder
that most of the TI people dropped out of engineering school but the HP
folks got their degrees?  This proud heritage lives on the the HP
palmtops.  Return keys have no place here.

Respectfully,

Colin Thompson

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David Mather wrote:
>
> I'm sorry, but it's Christmas and I just can't let this pass.  I agree on
> all points, but RETURN is correct - not ENTER!  The key in question sends a
> Ctrl-M which is ASCII code 13 which is "Carriage Return".  There never was
> an ASCII code for ENTER.
>
> ... and all because of the teletype terminals which we started with.
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Butler <ianrb@CASPERS.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Date: 15 December 1997 14:09
> Subject: Re: Slack space
>
> >: I calculated the space requirements of some folders I wanted to put
> >: on an uncompressed 8mb exp lxm flashcard and concluded that I'd have
> >
> >They're directories, dammit.  Methinks the computer industry made
> >"folders" to represent someone or another's view of a hierarchial
> >filesystem.
> >Just like some computers use the typewriter's "Return" instead of data
> >processing's "Enter".  Real Computers don't have mice or return keys.  I
> >have a Real Computer.  You have a 200.  It's a Real Real Computer, as it
> >has directories, enter, no mouse, and a Real attitude (i.e. DOS 5). This is
> >a 200LX list.  We're Real People, and we use Directories.  Get that? :)
> >
> >Sometimes I just kill myself.
> >

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George Chow wrote:
> Hi,
> I was passing by Shier and found that they carry the EXP
> flash+modem card. I'm interested in the 4Mb/14.4 combo.
> What has people's experience been with the EXP combo cards?

I have an EXP1414LXM/4m and I would recommend it
-Use rechargeable Bats (NiMh) as your 100LX will use more
 power with the modem installed.
-Data speed is faster than the max. possible during any
 busy time on the internet anyway
-MiniFax (comes with card) works well send & receive.
>
> I currently have a 1Mb 100LX with a 2Mb SRAM card and am very
> interested in expanding its capabilities. Most notably, I want
> to switch from DOS Quicken 3 to DOS Quicken 7 and add either
> Nettamer or WWW/LX. Thanks in advance.

I use Quicken Dos6 on the 200lx and it works fine & prints ok
-Reconcile takes a long time / data entry is quick

I use NetTamer V108pt (on EXP modem ram) and it is excellent
for email & newsgroups. If you NEED to web browse you may
prefer WWW/LX at about 3x the price.

You may want to "Stack" or "Jam" your 2M card to get 4Megs.

Cheers
John
Team HP200LX NZ

Hi George

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: actually, ian, it only comes to about $1.12 per list-member.

That would be neato.  But, you have two consider two things:
1) I wouldn't beg for money, because I can make it, and 2)
No one would send me money if I asked, anyway.

: all the same, i would be willing to pitch in my $10 bucks, if you have
: something particularly "killer" in mind.  (i haven't heard of anyone
proposing
: a winCE 2.0 emulator for the dos platform.)

_GOOD._ ;)

Let's think here.  WinCE runs SLOWER than the 200LX on a 40MHz
32bit chip.  Can you _imagine_ what it would act like EMULATED
on an 8MHz 16bit processor?  It'd take two weeks just to turn
on!  I know you were joking, but just think about what it
would be like.  Ouch.

My current ideas are:
        - newsgroup digest reader (yes, there is one already,
          but let's face it, it sucks)
        - encryption system (maybe one that uses the UN*X
          password generator to make keys? I don't know much
          about encryption.)
        - 48G emulator (very hard, I'm not at all sure I could
          do it, but I'll look at some emulator sources)
        - Pop up calculator - this one would be nice.  I
          think the HP Calc is icky, and it's a seperate
          application.  Just a straight 4-level RPN would
          suffice.

Other ideas?  I'm open to suggestions.  In the meantime, I'll
study up on MoonRock, a new BASIC compiler I found.  Fellow
programmers may or may not hate BASIC, but with full inline
assembly and optimization systems, it works very well with
small things like the 200.  It'll make whatever I create very
small and very fast.

        hello.com           222   12-14-97   19:52
                            

Nifty.

Send _good_ ideas to the list for review and expansion by
other members.


Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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     Hi!
     This is not so much about the HP 200lx but Christmas. If any of has so
     time on his hand brows on over to:

     www.mihummel.com/xmas/xmas_recipes.html

     Now before some one calls me a German, I am not.

     To all marry Christmas from

     Helmut in Colorado

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> : a winCE 2.0 emulator for the dos platform.)
>
> _GOOD._ ;)
>
> Let's think here.  WinCE runs SLOWER than the 200LX on a 40MHz
> 32bit chip.  Can you _imagine_ what it would act like EMULATED
> on an 8MHz 16bit processor?

Hmmmm. But what if it was just the Microsoft *implementation* of
WinCE that makes it so slow? Perhaps by writing it properly, it would
run *faster* on a hp200lx. Now that would turn some heads!

Of course, if you throw out the graphics (use ASCII graphics), this is
a real possibility...

>         - Pop up calculator - this one would be nice.  I
>           think the HP Calc is icky, and it's a seperate
>           application.  Just a straight 4-level RPN would
>           suffice.
I've written a command-line calculator if anyone wants one. It's
pretty straight-forward, if you stay with post-fix; but has the
advantage that you can add your own functions that you use often -
that's log2() and adaptive compression for me.

Say if anyone wants the source, so they can add their own functions -
or maybe I could add some popular ones in, if the demand is there?


> Other ideas?  I'm open to suggestions.  In the meantime, I'll
> study up on MoonRock, a new BASIC compiler I found.

Have a play with awk and sed. Very fast development time; and sed is
quite fast in execution. You can do things in a few minutes you might
at first think are impossibly difficult! I've heard Perl's good too; but
too big for me.

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On Mon, 15 Dec 1997 10:15:29 -0800 (PST), Karl DeLyria wrote:

kd> Has anyone on this list used a USRobotics 28.8 K modem with their 200 =
LX?

Karl, i have successfully used a usr 33.6 external w/voice with my
200lx and post/lx (as well as nettamer) with no problems at all. I
throttled the baud rate back to 19200 and it worked like a charm...

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I've reached the point where I really have to have an uncomplicated,
free-form text database.  From discussion in the HPLX ListServ, the two
most prominent candidates are Agenda and InfoSelect.  My impression is
that Agenda is probably unnecessarily complex for use on the HP200 (or
other).  But I have questions regarding useability constraints in
InfoSelect (Vers 3.-).  Any help in these questions would be greatly
appreciated:

1.  Will a text search locate the text string *within* an individual
window?  Each location within the window, if there are more than one
ocurrences?  Or, will the text search locate only the individual windows
containing the text string?

2.  Is it possible to print a specified subset of the data fields in an
IS form?

3.  Once an IS form is set up, with data entered in a few windows, how
difficult is it to add new fields?

4.  Can one query specific data fields on an IS form?  Usual Boolean
search criteria?

5.  What file formats can be imported into IS?  DBF? HTM? XLS? WinWord
DOC?

6.  Will the Win version of IS preserve formatting when using clipboard
to copy from another source?

7.  What are the biggest constraints you've discovered with the version
of IS you're using?




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> My current ideas are:
>         - encryption system
   PGP runs nicely outside of sysmgr

>         - 48G emulator
   Only if it runs Pheonix 8-)

If you want my money you could write a nice .exm learning remote controller.
I'm about to pay for remcom (if the author replies to my email) but it's got a
95lx gui which is a bit grim and you can't paste a sequence of keys in from the
cut buffer.

This is part of the ultimate killer app for the couch potato: TV schedules
downloaded from the web into a .GDB file and a single key to program the video
with VideoPlus numbers.  The web page fetching is done, Videoplus source code is
available (sort of), .GDB creation is done, all I need is a way of turning a
database entry into an infra-red stream that the video recorder can understand.

Cheers,
Tim Phipps.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Dec 1997 13:28:05 +0100
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On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Ian Butler wrote:


snip
> Other ideas?  I'm open to suggestions.  In the meantime, I'll
> study up on MoonRock, a new BASIC compiler I found.  Fellow
> programmers may or may not hate BASIC, but with full inline
> assembly and optimization systems, it works very well with
> small things like the 200.  It'll make whatever I create very
> small and very fast.
>

MoonRock is very neat, although also *very* slow when compiling. The
language is also somewhat primitive (no nested parenthesiss for example).
It does create tight code, however, and providing you have a proper
assembler (I use an old version of tasm and tlink), it can optimize for
the 186/286.  Its functions for writing directly to the screen do not work
on the 200LX, however, but then I prefer StdOut anyway... Lets just hope
that Rowan makes a new version soon (The current beta is from March this
year).

BTW. The link is

http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/moonrock.html

Regards,

Laust

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On Tue, 16 Dec 1997, David Mather wrote:

> I'm sorry, but it's Christmas and I just can't let this pass.  I agree on
> all points, but RETURN is correct - not ENTER!  The key in question sends a
> Ctrl-M which is ASCII code 13 which is "Carriage Return".  There never was
> an ASCII code for ENTER.
>
> ... and all because of the teletype terminals which we started with.
>
My 200LX has an ENTER button. It just happens that it is mapped to ASCII
code 13 :-)

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Date:         Tue, 16 Dec 1997 09:08:09 -0500
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I read a post in the USENET this morning that Educalc is going out of
business completely.

------------
N.B. Our last official sale day is Friday the 19th. by phone, and the 20th
for 10AM to 4PM walk in. That is the best time for the best deals.
------------

Can anyone confirm or supply more info? I know they have been a bit less
than realistic on prices for quite some time, but I had understood that they
were just getting out of the HP palmtop business...

Mitch

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> When you are using a Internet search engine,

do you get the feeling you're pawing thru a dumpster?

> The Internet isn't a network of Pentium II's connected with T5
> fiber optics - more along the lines of 110 baud land line connections
> over rusty wires to compulsive ZX81's.
>

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>> Can anyone confirm or supply more info?

It was my understanding from following some of the threads
in the HP48 newsgroup that their demise, in part at least, stems
from the decision by HP to relocate the calculator division to
Australia.

Ken Lewis
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Date:         Tue, 16 Dec 1997 11:13:04 EST
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Comments: To: sward@flash.net

Text of message from sward@flash.net, 16 Dec 1997, 12:57 AM
>..
> 1.  Will a text search locate the text string *within* an individual
> window?  Each location within the window, if there are more than one
> ocurrences?  Or, will the text search locate only the individual windows
> containing the text string?

Locates all strings within windows and highlights them.

>
> 2.  Is it possible to print a specified subset of the data fields in an
> IS form?

I don't think so.  You need to print all the fields within a form (or a
window).  The forms features are more developed in the IS for Windows
versions >= 3.

>
> 3.  Once an IS form is set up, with data entered in a few windows, how
> difficult is it to add new fields?

It's easy, since data not stored in fielded form.

>
> 4.  Can one query specific data fields on an IS form?  Usual Boolean
> search criteria?

Not in the DOS versions.

>
> 5.  What file formats can be imported into IS?  DBF? HTM? XLS? WinWord
> DOC?

I believe only comma-delimited files can be imported into the DOS
version.

>
> 6.  Will the Win version of IS preserve formatting when using clipboard
> to copy from another source?

I think so, but the Win version is totally different from the DOS
version.

>
> 7.  What are the biggest constraints you've discovered with the version
> of IS you're using?


IS for DOS is a good product and have used it for years.  Biggest problems
are underdeveloped database and PIM functions, only text-based monospaced
fonts in each window, and, on the 200LX, a lack of SysMgr compliance.

Hope this helps.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
  ___/    Center for Clinical Computing
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Froeliche Weinachten, Helmut!  Und, bei der weg, es ist 'Merry' Christmas,
nicht 'Marry'.  Entschuldigen, Ich habe alles mein Deutsch ganz vergessen.

At 08:38 PM 12/15/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Item Subject: cc:Mail Text
>     Hi!
>     This is not so much about the HP 200lx but Christmas. If any of has so
>     time on his hand brows on over to:
>
>     www.mihummel.com/xmas/xmas_recipes.html
>
>     Now before some one calls me a German, I am not.
>
>     To all marry Christmas from
>
>     Helmut in Colorado
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I know of several people (including myself) who have been using the EXP
for years. You'll need the external power supply for the LX if you want
to use the modem for more than about 5 minutes (drains batteries). And
I've heard of a couple of instances where the modem won't register a
dial tone,  which may have been a result of plugging them into a digital
phone line. However, I personally have been very satisfied with mine.

Also...I just STACKED my 4meg EXP to 10meg and it seems to be working
fine.

-Eric

> ----------
> From:         George ChowSMTP:gchow@MERCURY.BC.CA
> Sent:         Monday, December 15, 1997 7:27 PM
> Subject:      Request for experience with EXP flash+modem card...
>
> Hi,
>
> I was passing by Shier and found that they carry the EXP flash+modem
> card. I'm interested in the 4Mb/14.4 combo. What has people's
> experience been with the EXP combo cards?
>
> I currently have a 1Mb 100LX with a 2Mb SRAM card and am very
> interested in expanding its capabilities. Most notably, I want to
> switch from DOS Quicken 3 to DOS Quicken 7 and add either Nettamer or
> WWW/LX. Thanks in advance.
>
> George
>

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HP>I know of several people (including myself) who have been using the EXP
HP>for years. You'll need the external power supply for the LX if you want
HP>to use the modem for more than about 5 minutes (drains batteries). And
HP>I've heard of a couple of instances where the modem won't register a
HP>dial tone,  which may have been a result of plugging them into a digital
HP>phone line. However, I personally have been very satisfied with mine.

HP>Also...I just STACKED my 4meg EXP to 10meg and it seems to be working
HP>fine.

HP>-Eric

    Eric, i have a 8 meg EXP card, with 1400 Nimh batteries, and i can
be online almost 4 hours.

I'm using "telemate" or "telix"

And i also had that problem of the "tone missing"....but i did'nt ever
plug it into a digital line, so i don't why, maybe because i leave it
all night recharging ?

The fax, was working ok, but no the "data" modem.

I sent my card to EXP, and they *said*, they are going to replace it.


Best regards,


Martin
Marseb@giga.com.ar

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Thanks John and Eric for your responses.

I also did a search on Deja News yesterday on EXP and Thinfax and got a =
few things that I want to clarify. The posts were about a year or 2 old =
at least so perhaps things have changed.

1.  Some posters mentioned that the EXP card could not be stacked or =
jammed because a device driver was 'in the way'. Since you Eric =
mentioned that you stacked your's, it would seem not to be the case. Is =
there anything special about how you stacked the card? I have never used =
flash memory before but am told that it is slow cf SRAM. Wouldn't =
compression slow that down even more?
2.  Some posters mentioned that you can't use the modem unless you =
install a driver. Is that so? How big is this driver?
3.  How big is a typical fax? If the MiniFax software could receive =
faxes into the flash card, that would be really handy. Is there a viewer =
available on the LX?

How reputable is Shier? Is there any other sources for the modem that =
anyone can suggest? Shier has the 4Mb/modem combo for USD269 and the 8Mb =
for USD339. I also hear that EduCalc is closing. Can anyone confirm =
this?

George

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Has anyone on the list successfully used the 200LX as a real-time CW
generator to key a transmitter?

If so I would appreciate info on how you accomplished it.


        TNX,

        Gnen
        WA4HHP

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Hi Eugene,

        I can't find the manual for my MFJ SAM CW program.  It thought there
was a way to do this.  You might check with MFJ.

Colin

>
> Has anyone on the list successfully used the 200LX as a real-time CW
> generator to key a transmitter?
>
> If so I would appreciate info on how you accomplished it.

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Date:         Tue, 16 Dec 1997 14:19:22 -0500
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>Has anyone on the list successfully used the 200LX as a real-time CW
>generator to key a transmitter?

You might give Super Morse a try:

http://www.murrah.com/sm/

It will run on the 200LX and I am pretty sure it has keying capabilities.

Mitch N8XS

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Date:         Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:32:16 +1300
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Dan Carrington wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever had problems with their power sockets on an HP200LX?
Not on my 100lx or 2 200lx's

> I have to twist and turn and replug the power cord to have it stay powered
> on consistantly.
Could it be a problem with the wire as it leaves the plug?
Are you using the genuine HP Power supply?
The socket is quite robust and solders on to the main board
<snip>
> I have not been able to disassemble the machine.  I tried and after
> removing all of the screws, it still would not come appart.
> Is there some trick to taking it appart?

Did you have the batteries/PC Card removed first? (& Backed up data?)
The base cover should prise off with thumb-nails pulling the halves
appart (only 4x torx#6 screws right?)
David Sargent has some good "inside" photos on his web site:
http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/inside.htm
The motherboard is held in place by guide pins that are part of
the case halves so open it up gently. There are no bits that
fly off but the battery connector "rods" clip off the motherboard
leaving the springy end in the case.

> Also does anyone know if HP sells parts for these things besides
> the replacement part kit?
NO

> Hopefully the power socket is a seperate part and not part of
> the motherboard.
Yes but no as it's soldered on to the motherboard but easy to get
at with the cover off.

Have fun exploring
Cheers
John
NZ
Remove "NOSPAM." from reply address OR mailto:palmtop@ihug.co.nz

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Tim Phipps wrote:

> If you want my money you could write a nice .exm learning remote controller.
> I'm about to pay for remcom (if the author replies to my email) but it's got a
> 95lx gui which is a bit grim and you can't paste a sequence of keys in from the
> cut buffer.
I tried a remote controller program and found you had to be so close
to the TV you could reach out and push the buttons. The 200lx has a
lower power IR port than the 95lx. My 95lx (1992-3) had great range
and could zap that airport TV from across the waiting hall but not
the 200lx.  Check it out with your **lx before you spend any money.

> This is part of the ultimate killer app for the couch potato: TV schedules
> downloaded from the web into a .GDB file and a single key to program the video
> with VideoPlus numbers.  The web page fetching is done, Videoplus source code is
> available (sort of), .GDB creation is done, all I need is a way of turning a
> database entry into an infra-red stream that the video recorder can understand.
>
good luck
John
NZ

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George Chow wrote:
>
> Thanks John and Eric for your responses.
> I also did a search on Deja News yesterday on EXP and Thinfax and got
> a few things that I want to clarify. The posts were about a year or 2 old
> at least so perhaps things have changed.
>
> 1.  Some posters mentioned that the EXP card could not be stacked or
> jammed because a device driver was 'in the way'. Since you Eric
> mentioned that you stacked your's, it would seem not to be the case.
> Is there anything special about how you stacked the card? I have never
> used flash memory before but am told that it is slow cf SRAM. Wouldn't
> compression slow that down even more?
Early EXP Ram could not be stacked but new ones can (97).
       http://www.expnet.com/spec/tflxm.htm
Overall speed of modem is limited by 14.4 or Internet and the reduction
in speed from Stacker is not a problem.

> 2.  Some posters mentioned that you can't use the modem unless you
> install a driver. Is that so? How big is this driver?
LXMDRV.SYS is 11.1k on C:  (comes with modem)
I set autoexec.bat on C: to load EXM drivers
and reboot to autoexec.bat on A: for my DFlash card)

> 3.  How big is a typical fax?
How big is a ball of string? springs to mind!
about 2-4k per page of text to about 13k

> If the MiniFax software could receive faxes into the flash card,
> that would be really handy. Is there a viewer available on the LX?
The Minifax software is in ROM on A: of the EXP card and the Ram will
be F: you should have plenty of room for many fax pages. The minifax
software is only for use with the EXP card.
View the fax with MiniFax and delete or reply or save as *.txt on C:
or F: for later viewing in Memo.

> How reputable is Shier?
Very!

Cheers
John
NZ

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Comments: cc: bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU

   >It's a DOS program. But how would you use filename completing in
   >Win95, anyway? :)
   >--
I was thinking about dos mode / dos emuator-mode. Like to know if it
supports long filenames.

Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

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At 09:42 AM 12/17/97 +1300, John Shaw wrote:
>Early EXP Ram could not be stacked but new ones can (97).

How can you tell a new model from an older one?

Mike Kilpatrick

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Greetings,

        I telephoned Educalc today.  They are going out of business.
Apparantly HP has been more interested in shipping product to the big
discount office supply chains than getting small orders filled.  If you
can't get product, you can't maintain you business.

Colin Thompson

Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:
>
> I read a post in the USENET this morning that Educalc is going out of
> business completely.
>
> ------------
> N.B. Our last official sale day is Friday the 19th. by phone, and the 20th
> for 10AM to 4PM walk in. That is the best time for the best deals.
> ------------
>
> Can anyone confirm or supply more info? I know they have been a bit less
> than realistic on prices for quite some time, but I had understood that they
> were just getting out of the HP palmtop business...
>
> Mitch

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Russel Brooks wrote:
>
> >From:    John Shaw <palmtop@IHUG.CO.NZ>
> >somebody wrote:
> >> >Did the "Hinge Crack Survey" data ever get coalesced & posted anywhere?
> >I am not the original crack surveyor, but unofficially I counted :
> >23 Cracks and 24 NO Crack out of about 295 list contributors since 10/97

> I would question the Crack Survey numbers.  I know that when I replied
> it was before I saw the really good picture of where the crack was
> located so I said I didn't have the crack.  Now that I know exactly
> where to look I can see the discoloration of the plastic which I believe
> to be the plastic stressing and starting to form the crack.

You are still a NO on my count and I hope you remain a NO!
-how stiff is your hinge?

> If a survey is going to be valid I think it should be done via a web
> site where the picture can be shown and a yes/no question can be asked.

That may leave out some results as not all List users have internet
access and of those that do some do not have forms access.

I think originally someone wanted support to push HP into seeing the
"crack" problem as a warranty fault and from responces since the first
survey this has happened.

Cheers
John
NZ

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George:

i have the exp 8 meg and I think its great.  For the little extra money the extra space is great.  An additional plus, is the included fax software "mini fax" it works great....

Bill

George Chow wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was passing by Shier and found that they carry the EXP flash+modem card. I'm interested in the 4Mb/14.4 combo. What has people's experience been with the EXP combo cards?
>
> I currently have a 1Mb 100LX with a 2Mb SRAM card and am very interested in expanding its capabilities. Most notably, I want to switch from DOS Quicken 3 to DOS Quicken 7 and add either Nettamer or WWW/LX. Thanks in advance.
>
> George
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>Its functions for writing directly to the screen do not work on the
>200LX, however, but then I prefer StdOut anyway... Lets just hope

Strange - writing to the screen on the 200LX is no different from
writing to the screen on any other computer???? Are you sure it works on
*any* computer?

Jorgen

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On 15 Dec 97 at 17:27, George Chow wrote:


> I was passing by Shier and found that they carry the EXP flash+modem
> card. I'm interested in the 4Mb/14.4 combo. What has people's
> experience been with the EXP
>combo cards?

I bought an EXP LXM 1414 8M from NBW one month ago. It works fine for
3 weeks.The card suddenly lost all the content of drive F and the
access to MODEM/FAX. I'm sending it back to EXP for replacement. I
believe that the product is a nice device but I have had this bad
experience to loose all the content (only programs) of drive F.

I don't use Staker but use PKZIP instead.

The MiniFax (from EXP) has limitations. I do prefer the
QFAX - QuickStar Fax 1.10 with possibilities of 2
size of Fonts, spacing/size adjustment and the insertion of PCX
images in the body of text ( like signature, logo, etc). It has also
devices to access an data file for FAX numbers and automated
multiple fax. I'm trying to register QFAX but the owner doesn't
answer and the version I have has limited capabilities. Check it with
qfax@qfax.com

> I currently have a 1Mb 100LX with a 2Mb SRAM card and am very
> interested in
>expanding its capabilities. Most notably, I want to switch from DOS
>Quicken 3 to DOS Quicken 7 and add either Nettamer or WWW

I run Nettamer and found it run nice but a little bit slow -
unregistered version. I decided to order WWW/LX from Shier and
will test it as soon I receive the new card from EXP.

ݨs


Eduardo Cesana

ECOLOGICA Tecnologia & Controle Ambiental Ltda
Tel +55 (0)71 375-3311  Fax +55 (0)71 375-1141
mailto:ecesana@ax.apc.org
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: I read a post in the USENET this morning that Educalc is going out of
: business completely.

: Can anyone confirm or supply more info? I know they have been a bit less
: than realistic on prices for quite some time, but I had understood that
they
: were just getting out of the HP palmtop business...

Two things: They are getting out of the HP business completely, and
the HP business was their only business.  So, they're closing.

It's a sad story, really, for anyone who's done business with them.
I'll retype here what Joseph Horn of HP48 fame had to say about it.
For those that haven't dealt with EduCALC, Jim Carter is the big
cheese and Richard Nelson is an outstanding tech - very nice, very
knowledgeable.  I've dealt with Richard, and it's really too bad
that he's losing his job.


----------
From: Joseph K. Horn <joehorn@usa.net>
Subject: EduCALC 1976-1997, R.I.P.
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 19:12:49 -0600
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

ANNOUNCEMENT: EduCALC PULLS OUT OF THE HP BUSINESS
==================================================

Sad to tell, the end of 1997 will also see EduCALC close its
doors for good.  After serving the HP Handheld user community
so well for 21 years, EduCALC is folding its tents and going
out of business... at least, out of the business of being the
world's largest outlet of HP calculators and related products.

On December 31, 1997, Jim Carter will lock the door of their
famous warehouse and showroom on Cabot Road in Laguna Niguel,
California, and drive away for the last time.  It will be
totally empty, and the EduCALC signs will have been taken
down.  EduCALC is *not* in bankruptcy, and Jim Carter has made
it clear that he's closing the business down "cleanly" with
all shipments due being shipped, all payments due being paid,
and all accounts receivable *hopefully* being received.  The
big "parking lot sale" during the past two days was held to
help clear out the warehouse.  It's pretty empty now.

The reasons for EduCALC's demise are many, and I hope that they
tell the whole story some day (hopefully Richard Nelson or Jim
Carter.)  In a nutshell, Hewlett-Packard did EXACTLy the same
thing that Commodore did to the Amiga.  After getting so many
dealers to carry HP calculators, HP then screwed their own
dealers by selling calculators at brainless mega-stores like
Office Depot.  The dealers simply could not match the profit
margin of these mega-stores, and they either dumped HP and went
into other products lines, or went out of business.

In the heydey of HP calculator sales, 1 out of every 4 phone
calls to EduCALC were sales-related.  Recently that ratio had
dropped to 1 out of 20!  To add insult to injury, EduCALC was getting
more and more calls that went like this:

Caller: Can you tell me the difference between the HP 48G and GX?
EduCALC: Sure! detailed explanation snipped
Caller: Thanks; it sounds like I'd rather buy the GX then.
EduCALC: Good choice.  Would you like to order it now?
Caller: Oh, I'm not buying it from *you*, I'm going to get it here at
   name of brainless store snipped
EduCALC: What??
Caller: Yeah, their price is lower, but they didn't know anything
   about it, so they called HP, and HP said to call EduCALC,
   so you answered my question, thank you very much, and
   now I can buy it cheaper from somebody else. *click*

On top of this, HP Corporate has gotten too big and stupid for
its own good.  Their engineers are the greatest bunch of men and
women anywhere, but HP Corporate is a pack of incompetent fools.
Proof: They predict how many palmtops (or whatever) will probably
sell in the next few months, and they make that many, and then
STOP PRODUCTION ENTIRELY.  Last year EduCALC got a huge backorder
for palmtops, and HP told them "Sorry, we're not making any more
palmtops until next Janurary."  What kind of idiocy is that???  Believe it
or not, HP even told Jim Carter that the way to avoid that problem
this year was not to sell any palmtops during December.  WHAT?!?!?!
EduCALC depended on the back-to-school rush and the Christmas rush
for survival!  Hewlett-Packard is making all of Commodore's stupid
mistakes, all over again.  Sheesh.

Sooner or later you'll hear that EduCALC was also hurt deeply by
the embezzlement of about a quarter million dollars of funds and
products by a former employee.  Although this may be true (the
details will only be known for sure after the police investigation
and legal red tape are taken care of), it's *possible* that EduCALC
would have survived that problem if it hadn't been for the other
problems mentioned above.  Then again, $250,000 was not pocket
change for EduCALC, which struggled to keep about water on the
smallest possible profic margin.  In any case, it didn't help.

I am personally saddened because Richard Nelson will lose his job
there in two weeks.  He's hosted the weekly HP48 Programming Class
which will now end; he's been the prime mover and shaker of the
Souther California Chapter of PPC (the original and oldest HP
calculator group) which will now probably evaporate.  He told
me that he's looking into moving to Northern California to go back
into teaching, and I wish him luck, but ... he's been my friend
for 21 years, and it really bums me out to have to say goodbye
because HP Corporate is so freaking STUPID.

Enough rambling.  Goodbye, EduCALC.  It was fun.  I'll miss you.
A *lot*.

PS: If you call EduCALC, remember a few things: they have only a
few people left; they have very little stock left; they are VERY
eager to sell the remaining stock at almost ANY price; and do it
SOON!  Their famour 30-day return policy, of course, is no longer
offered.  All sales are final.  They're in mop-up mode now.

-Joseph K. Horn-
joehorn@usa.net
Disclaimer: I didn't work for EduCALC.
-------

10 minutes later, Ian discards the hard copy of the above document
in favor of returning you to your normal programming.


My parents had a craft store and the same thing happened, except for
no embezzlement (that we know of) occurred.  They had a huge selection
of products, and the mall kept raising the lease, and Wal-Mart came in
across the parking lot, with a smaller selection of cheaper stuff.
We told them what they needed, they went over to Wal-Mart and got it.
It's an evil world, people.


Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

The Internet isn't a network of Pentium II's connected with T5
fiber optics - more along the lines of 110 baud land line connections
over rusty wires to compulsive ZX81's.

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Date:         Wed, 17 Dec 1997 03:05:44 -0500
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(I posted this a month ago, but due to time constraints, I didn't get around
to following up with some of the people who were interested, so I'm trying
again...)

Forsale:

- HP200LX, 1 MB, 2yrs old, excellent condition (one of the 1995 models
with the stiffer plastic), including manual (and maybe the box if I
can dig it up), plus an HP Support Pack (3 yr exchange warantee, I
think...I bought it for $90 at the time, but I seem to have forgotten
to send in the card, so you can have that too, FWIW...)

- IBM 5 MB (uncompressed) Flash RAM card

- HP 200LX to serial cable

- HP AC adaptor

- E&B leather case (the smallest zip-around kind, without credit card
slots but with a pen loop and velcro for attaching to the HP (which I
didn't do.)

I'd like to get $275+shipping for the lot, but basically best offer
within the next two weeks or so takes it.  Shipping prepaid or COD, or
pickup in the Boston area.  Preference given to those who'd like more
than one item.

Thanks,
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Hi everybody,
                First of all, thanks to everyone who responded to my
request for experience with different flash cards. Now back to the well
again. I run a cadd program (gen cadd 6.1) which is a dos program that I
purchased from autodesk (they bought it from programmers, it was in
competition with autocad) and now they no longer support it (imagine
that!). My problem is it won't run on the palmtop and it should. I can
run gen cadd on any other machine from 286 to pentium. I have it set to
cga with low memory requirements. I keep getting error message of
"incorrect version of gcadd.ovr" (an overlay file). I did notice that
transfile for windows changes the date when you copy files. I don't know
why, but it does. Some of the cadd files (including the gcadd.ovr file
is date 9/19/94, so I get the idea of changing the system date to make
sure the file has this date when I run cadd.exe, but no luck, same
problem.
I realize this is not a cadd forum, but the only place gen cadd is
discussed is on compuservere (I think) and I don't have access. Any help
or ideas would greatly appreciated. Being able to use this program in
the field would greatly extend the capablility of my 200lx.  Thanks in
Advance.
          Terry Livingston

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Date:         Wed, 17 Dec 1997 01:48:37 +1100
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Subject:      Re: HP200LX power socket

 NO>> Has anyone ever had problems with their power sockets on an
 NO>HP200LX? Not on my 100lx or 2 200lx's
YES
I have the same problems with my LX100.In the mean time I believe that I got
an idea what is happening. I have installed ABCLX in order to find out why
the battery did not wanted to stay on charging.I found out that from time to
time the voltage very fast (2 to 5 minutes) reached a high value (passing
the maximum I found for my batteries of 2,92 volts) and than just give a
battery error or stopped charging.In the beginning I thought that it was the
contact of the HP (original) loader but after working on that no
improvements were found. In the mean time I tend to believe that the HP LX
just thinks due to the behavior of the battery and it contacts, there
must be a normal battery in the compartment. -I have really no idea how the
Palmtop would know the difference between both but I am sure there is
somebody out there who could explain -. Next thing to do for me will be
to clean all connections from the palmtop. There must be some corrosion
inside which causes these regular shut offs. (Living in a region with high
humidity, using my Palmtop daily since early 1993). Additionally I found
that my Palmtop some times just hard booted after a some rougher handling,
thereby loosing everything which was not saved up to then. Not dropping to
the ground but just some heavy vibration of a table and such things.


If it doesn't fit, force it; if it breaks, it needed replacement

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Hi there!

Is there anyone who made above card working in a HP200LX?

Sometimes the HP200LX tells me that the "card battery is low" (also in
system configuration).
The software enabler.exe, shipped with the card, says "Fatal error 2:
The TCIC PC Card Controller not found".

Is there a possibility to supply the card with extern power if less
power is the problem?

Andreas

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     Hello,

     You will be happy to know that HP is still adding new content to
     www.hp.com positioning the 200LX.  See
     <http://www.hp.com/handheld/communicators/700lx_or_200lx.html>

     Sincerely,
     Dennis Faucher
     Consultant
     Hewlett-Packard Company
     Burlington, MA
     (617) 221-5090
     dennis_faucher@hp.com

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On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Dennis Faucher wrote:

>      You will be happy to know that HP is still adding new content to
>      www.hp.com positioning the 200LX.  See
>      <http://www.hp.com/handheld/communicators/700lx_or_200lx.html>

Thanks for the info Dennis. They must still be working on it tho. The
HP200LX hypertext link gets the msg "The requested object was not found on
this server".....the adjacent HP OmniGo 700LX link correctly gets to the
700LX page. Maybe you can point this out to them in case they're clueless.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:03:07 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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On Tue, 16 Dec 1997, Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:

> >Its functions for writing directly to the screen do not work on the
> >200LX, however, but then I prefer StdOut anyway... Lets just hope
>
> Strange - writing to the screen on the 200LX is no different from
> writing to the screen on any other computer???? Are you sure it works on
> *any* computer?
>
Both the precompiled programs and the ones I compile myself refuse to
display any output when I use the direct screen functions. Perhaps they
are VGA only?
(Another look at the documentation is in order, methinks. Perhaps it will
explain)

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:48:23 -0800
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From:         Bob Aldrich <robert@COLUMNIST.COM>
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Dennis Faucher wrote:
>
>      Hello,
>
>      You will be happy to know that HP is still adding new content to
>      www.hp.com positioning the 200LX.  See
>      <http://www.hp.com/handheld/communicators/700lx_or_200lx.html>

Bravo!

Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles

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Date:         Wed, 17 Dec 1997 21:56:38 -1
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              Bas Pruijn <126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL>
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Subject:      Re: Request for experience with EXP flash+modem card...
Comments: cc: gchow@MERCURY.BC.CA

   >1.  Some posters mentioned that the EXP card could not be stacked
   >or = jammed because a device driver was 'in the way'. Since you
   >Eric = mentioned that you stacked your's, it would seem not to be
   >the case. Is = there anything special about how you stacked the
   >card? I have never used = flash memory before but am told that it
   >is slow cf SRAM. Wouldn't = compression slow that down even more?
If you want to use stacker try the www.expnet.com site. There is an
explanation on how to stck the exp. cards. I tried usin jam on a 2MB card
and that didn't work because of (I think) driver-conflicts.

   >2.  Some posters mentioned that you can't use the modem unless you =
   >install a driver. Is that so? How big is this driver?
Not true. You will have to load a driver for any modem you want to use on
the 200LX. This driver is (most of the times) already loaded in you
autoexec.bat (cic100.*)

   >3.  How big is a typical fax? If the MiniFax software could receive
   >= faxes into the flash card, that would be really handy. Is there a
   >viewer = available on the LX?
You can (as far as I know) put your faxes on the flashpart of the drive. The

viewer is build in the Minifax-software.


Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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              George Chow <gchow@MERCURY.BC.CA>
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Thanks for all the replies regarding the EXP modem+flash combo card. It =
seems that most people have had great experience with the flash+14.4k =
combo card with the exception of Eduardo. (Eduardo: I hope your get =
your's fixed.) I am surprised that no one has pointed out the EXP has a =
newer combo card that has a 33.6k modem (and it's cheap too at USD329). =
The only odd thing is that the power consumption of that is rated at =
180mA and yet it is considered OK. It does come with an external battery =
pack. I'll have to contact EXP's tech support to find out more about =
this.

A side note to people who use DOS Quicken on their LX. I was passing by =
Intuit's site and saw a link about Quicken & the Y2K problem. The gist =
of it is that DOS Quicken 1 to 3 have the Y2K problem; those versions =
cannot handle entries on and beyond January 1, 2000. Version 4 and =
onward are okay. Since I am running version 3, this is part of the =
reason I'm moving on and therefore needing a bigger memory card.

And a final problem about Quicken, I was testing out DOS Quicken 7 =
yesterday night on the 100LX and just could not get the graphics to =
work. When I select the graph option, I get the "Creating Graph..." =
prompt and the machine just sits there. I waited 5/10/20 minutes and =
still no graph. I can press ESC to cancel and all but just no graph. Any =
hints/suggestions about the cause?

George

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              HOBCHI <hobchi@MCI2000.COM>
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Nina;
Can you tell me what the total charges are from your slip?
This is so I can leave the money at my PU/delivery desk.
How did it go? Next day air?
Thanks

Happy Holidays.

yor pal al......................

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Date:         Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:40:00 -0600
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Hi.
Does anyone on this list use the Megahertz CC4144 cellular PCMCIA
modem for faxing?  It is a Fax Class 1 modem, which is different from the
Megahertz X-Jack modems which are Class 2.  I really would like to use
QFAX, which is simple, small, and easy to use (it seems), but I haven't
been able to get it to work with QFAX.  Has anyone gotten this or another
program to work with this modem?

Any help is appreciated.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Wed, 17 Dec 1997 20:05:51 -0500
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              Ron Beckley <rbeckley@SHORE.NET>
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Subject:      Re: FS: HP200LX/1MB and accessories
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  I do volunteer work for non-profit,Angel Flight of New England, Beverly
Airport, Danvers, MA..  Angel Flight, www.angelflightne.org,  provides air
transportation to needy individuals using private aircraft.  A 200LX would
enable our flight coordinators to access the computerized pilot database
after hours.  You add up the price of all the parts and you might get more
in a deduction than selling it.  If you have any interest let me know as a
reply to this message (my home email) or to
angelflight@angelflightne.org.

    Thanks for your time

Ron Beckley
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From: Nina H. Yuan <nhy@PANIX.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, December 17, 1997 3:14 AM
Subject: FS: HP200LX/1MB and accessories


>(I posted this a month ago, but due to time constraints, I didn't get
around
>to following up with some of the people who were interested, so I'm trying
>again...)
>
>Forsale:
>
>- HP200LX, 1 MB, 2yrs old, excellent condition (one of the 1995 models
>with the stiffer plastic), including manual (and maybe the box if I
>can dig it up), plus an HP Support Pack (3 yr exchange warantee, I
>think...I bought it for $90 at the time, but I seem to have forgotten
>to send in the card, so you can have that too, FWIW...)
>
>- IBM 5 MB (uncompressed) Flash RAM card
>
>- HP 200LX to serial cable
>
>- HP AC adaptor
>
>- E&B leather case (the smallest zip-around kind, without credit card
>slots but with a pen loop and velcro for attaching to the HP (which I
>didn't do.)
>
>I'd like to get $275+shipping for the lot, but basically best offer
>within the next two weeks or so takes it.  Shipping prepaid or COD, or
>pickup in the Boston area.  Preference given to those who'd like more
>than one item.
>
>Thanks,
>-nhy
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              Class3Dep <Class3Dep@AOL.COM>
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Does anyone know where I can get a serial/parallel converter that plugs
directly into the lx? The one I have requires the cable from the connectivity
pack, and I would like to streamline as best I can.

I believe I sent a copy of the HP Windows PIM to all who Emailed me. If I
missed anyone, please drop me a line.

Dennis

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Date:         Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:45:45 -0600
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              "Michael R. Melancon" <melancon@PRYSM.NET>
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From:         "Michael R. Melancon" <melancon@PRYSM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Serial/Parallel cable

I remember seeing reference to a S/P converter hardwired to a cable with a
200LX connector on the other end.  I'll look and see if I can locate the
name and any other particulars.

I may be misunderstanding your request, but a couple of thoughts.

If you want to use a single cable from the LX to the converter, you might
try to snag one of the Build it yourself cables Educalc sells with an LX
connector on one end -you add whatever connector you want on the other end
(I understand they are going out of business so it may be too late for this
option).

A source for the 10 pin lx connector is Digikey.

Hope this helps.

BTW I missed the HP windows PIM - I would appreciate it if you would send
me a copy to melancon@prysm.net

Mike

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Sent:   Wednesday, December 17, 1997 11:56 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: Serial/Parallel cable

Does anyone know where I can get a serial/parallel converter that plugs
directly into the lx? The one I have requires the cable from the
connectivity
pack, and I would like to streamline as best I can.

I believe I sent a copy of the HP Windows PIM to all who Emailed me. If I
missed anyone, please drop me a line.

Dennis

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On Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:56:59 -0500 (EST), Class3Dep wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can get a serial/parallel converter that plugs
> directly into the lx? The one I have requires the cable from the =
connectivity
> pack, and I would like to streamline as best I can.

I got one with a second-hand palmtop I bought from Germany. It's a
cable with a "connector for the serial port of the palmtop on one end
and a standard Centronics connector that plugs directly into the
parralel port of a printer on the other end. The serial/parallel
interface is contained in the housing of the connector. Requires no
batteries and no external power supply. Works with almost all printer
models."

Quoting above from the April 1997 catalogue of Rundel Datentechnik -
email: support@rundel-d.com, WWW: http://www.rundel-d.com

In the USA email info@shier.com - I think Greenwich Instruments makes
them for about $80 - called "Link-A-Printer II".

Regards, Tony

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Date:         Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:07:43 -0000
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Excuse my ignorance I just joined the list, what is the "HP Windows PIM ".

_________________________________
Russell.D.Albert
Excelsior Systems Ltd
russell@excelsys.co.uk
http://www.excelsys.co.uk/~russell
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Date:         Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:22:55 -0500
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              Clint Schertzer <schertz@XAVIER.XU.EDU>
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I must have missed earlier announcement.  Would love to have a copy of the
HP Windows PIM.  Thanks.

Clint

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Date: Thursday, December 18, 1997 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: Serial/Parallel cable


>Does anyone know where I can get a serial/parallel converter that plugs
>directly into the lx? The one I have requires the cable from the
connectivity
>pack, and I would like to streamline as best I can.
>
>I believe I sent a copy of the HP Windows PIM to all who Emailed me. If I
>missed anyone, please drop me a line.
>
>Dennis
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I must have missed that thread.  Would love to have a copy of the HP Windows
PIM.  Thanks

Clint
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Date: Thursday, December 18, 1997 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: Serial/Parallel cable


>Does anyone know where I can get a serial/parallel converter that plugs
>directly into the lx? The one I have requires the cable from the
connectivity
>pack, and I would like to streamline as best I can.
>
>I believe I sent a copy of the HP Windows PIM to all who Emailed me. If I
>missed anyone, please drop me a line.
>
>Dennis
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I would like to know about this product also.  Thanks in advance.

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To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Thursday, December 18, 1997 4:27 AM
Subject: HP Windows PIM


>Excuse my ignorance I just joined the list, what is the "HP Windows PIM ".
>
>_________________________________
>Russell.D.Albert
>Excelsior Systems Ltd
>russell@excelsys.co.uk
>http://www.excelsys.co.uk/~russell
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Subject:      Re: Serial/Parallel cable

Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:56:20, Class3Dep wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can get a serial/parallel converter that plugs
> directly into the lx? The one I have requires the cable from the
> connectivity pack, and I would like to streamline as best I can.

What you seek can be found at the following locations:

NSW (hppt://www.nssupply.com)
1800-566-6832
GA945 - Direct HP-parallel cable $75.00

Greenwich Instruments USA
1800-476-4070
Link-A-Printer II $79.00






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Date:         Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:20:09 -0400
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I seem to have misplaced the correct url for the transfile200 software.
Does anyone have this handy?

Thanks,
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Date:         Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:44:41 -0500
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Ian (and and anyone else who is interested):

The URL for Yellow Computing's TransFile program is:

http://hpcc998.external.hp.com:80/handheld/getting_help/software/palmtops/transfile.html

Cheers,
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Date:         Thu, 18 Dec 1997 11:46:02 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Transfile url
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On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Ian Melville wrote:

> I seem to have misplaced the correct url for the transfile200 software.
> Does anyone have this handy?

The registration page is at (join these as 1 URL):

http://hpcc920.external.hp.com/
        handheld/getting_help/software/palmtops/transfile.html

But it looks like it can be gotten directly via:

ftp://hpcvbbs.cv.external.hp.com/dist/hp200lx/backup/tf103.exe

- Longden

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Samson Cables out of Utah just emailed me that they are sending me one of
the Yellow Computing's (Germany) CD of software for the HPLX's that has
been talked about here. They have them in stock for $34.95.

Try:    http://muffet.com/cgi-src/hp_form.html

I think it is item #17 on the order form but am not sure. Their email
stated they would have descriptions posted in a few days.

Thanks,
Mike

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From: Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH <dsands@enterprise.bidmc.harvard.edu>
To: Samson Cables <samson@muffet.com>; HPLX List <hplx@palmtop.net>
Subject: Re: PIM Utils on CD ROM
Date: Thursday, December 18, 1997 2:54 PM

Fellow LX users, this is a good source for the HP Windows PIM utilities and
other software.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH * dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
   __/    Center for Clinical Computing
  (__     Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr / Harvard Medical School
  ___)    V:(617)667-0010 F:(617)667-1002 clinquery.bidmc.harvard.edu


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> From: Samson Cables <samson@muffet.com>
> To: Daniel Sands <dsands@enterprise.bidmc.harvard.edu>
> Subject: Re: Secure Message
> Date: Thursday, December 18, 1997 2:05 PM
>
> We got these CDs in and I will ship this out to you today.  If you
> have any other friends who are interested in this you can inform them
> that we have them in stock now and can order them using the form
> at:
> http://muffet.com/cgi-src/hp_form.html
>
> I have added 4 new CDs there, including this Palmtop one.  I
> don't have all the description for the items up, yet, but they
> should be up in a few days.
>
> Thanks for your order and sorry about the long wait.  I'll
> be sending the CD Priority mail (at no extra cost).
>
> Oh - your total is $38.44 and it will show up on your credit
> card statement as Bolder Mountaineering.
>
> Happy Holidays.
>
> Chris
> At 01:34 PM 11/25/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------


> >
> >realname: Daniel Sands
> >
> >email: dsands@enterprise.bidmc.harvard.edu
> >
> >Notes: I would like to order the Yellow Computing HP Palmtop Software
> >CD-ROM for $35 + 10% shipping 1st class in the US.  I understand it may
> take several weeks.
> >
> >Please ship to:
> >
> >Daniel Sands, MD
> >Center for Clinical Computing
> >350 Longwood Ave.
> >Boston, MA  02115
> >617-667-0010
> >
> >Please send me a receipt.
> >
> >Call with any questions.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >- Danny
> >
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------


> >HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.02; Update a; Windows
95)
> >
> >
>
> Christopher Edmunds           http://muffet.com/samson/index.html
> Samson Cables                 samson@muffet.com

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     Looks like this link got away from our webmaster.  Try
     http://www.hp.com/handheld/palmtops instead of
     http://www.hp.com/handheld/Palmtops

     Sincerely,
     Dennis Faucher
     Consultant
     Hewlett-Packard Company
     Burlington, MA
     (617) 221-5090
     dennis_faucher@hp.com




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 You said:

    You will be happy to know that HP is still adding new content to
     www.hp.com positioning the 200LX.  See
     <http://www.hp.com/handheld/communicators/700lx_or_200lx.html>

But,

When I clicked on the "HP200LX" link on that page, I got a "Not Found" error!!!
nda scary!

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> Does anyone know where I can get a serial/parallel converter that plugs
> directly into the lx? The one I have requires the cable from the
> connectivity pack, and I would like to streamline as best I can.

What you seek can be found at the following locations:

NSW (hppt://www.nssupply.com)
1800-566-6832
GA945 - Direct HP-parallel cable $75.00

Greenwich Instruments USA
1800-476-4070
Link-A-Printer II $79.00

To these add:
Cables and Chips
Fulton St,  NYC
It may be cheeper there.

BTW, To all ye see this, greetings...........
Radio Shack has a pair of NMH batts (12MAh) fer only $10 smackeroos.

yor pal al......................................

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Tranfer file URL

Start off with HP Palmtop and SUPER
Somewhere in there it'll go

http://hpcc998.external.hp.com:80/handheld/getting_help/software/palmtops/tr
ansfile.html

BTW, To all ye see this, greetings...........
Radio Shack has a pair of NMH batts (12MAh) fer only $10 smackeroos.

Happy Holidays
yor pal al......................................

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Subject:      Pointer to interesting shareware DOS utility: LINK

I've been playing with an interesting utility called LINK.  By using
zero length COM & EXEC files, a small 'index' file and a 600 byte TSR
It allows you to establish links on your disk that point to the real
code elsewhere.

   ftp.tu-clausthal.de/msdos/utils/dostools/linkln11.zip

The idea is to reduce the length of your path and also to eliminate
having to copy certain executables in some directory in your path by
have a 'link' directory in the path that just points to the real COM/EXE
somewhere else in your system.  You can achieve similar results with
BAT files but they take at least 1 cluster.  The link files are zero
length so all they use is one directory entry (@32 bytes I think).
I don't it can replace all my BAT files as some also do useful setup but
it can definitely replace those 1 liners that only call something in
another directory.

cheers...
Russ

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Date:         Thu, 18 Dec 1997 19:13:57 -0500
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->     Looks like this link got away from our webmaster.  Try
->     http://www.hp.com/handheld/palmtops instead of
->     http://www.hp.com/handheld/Palmtops

Huh?

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On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Russel Brooks wrote:

> I've been playing with an interesting utility called LINK.  By using
> zero length COM & EXEC files, a small 'index' file and a 600 byte TSR
> It allows you to establish links on your disk that point to the real
> code elsewhere.
>
>    ftp.tu-clausthal.de/msdos/utils/dostools/linkln11.zip
>
> The idea is to reduce the length of your path and also to eliminate
> having to copy certain executables in some directory in your path by
> have a 'link' directory in the path that just points to the real COM/EXE
> somewhere else in your system.  You can achieve similar results with
> BAT files but they take at least 1 cluster.  The link files are zero
> length so all they use is one directory entry (@32 bytes I think).
> I don't it can replace all my BAT files as some also do useful setup but
> it can definitely replace those 1 liners that only call something in
> another directory.
>

Actually, I find this very useful for adding your own MaxDos'ed programs
to the SysMgr. Here is an example, although it is probably not that hard
to figure out.

Suppose I wanted to add QuickBasic to the SysMgr, but I wanted it to have
it's own icon and wanted it to use MaxDos so that it got all the memory
availiable. Obviously I could create an icon named maxdos.icn, but this
would give problems if I were to add more programs using MaxDos.

What I do is create a zero length com file called qb.com that refers to
maxdos.com. In the sysmgr I then add the newly created .com file qb.com
with the path/commandline "c:\icons\qb.com -d c:\qb qb.exe"
This tells MaxDos to start qb, but the SysMgr thinks it is qb it is
starting! (Icons is the directory where I keep all my icons and
zero-length .com files)

Obviously you can use a menu program such as HDM (which I also use). There
are, however, a few programs that I like to start without going through
another menu, and Link/LN serves this purpose.

The only thing about Link/LN that bothers me is that LN.EXE, the program
you use to add/view links is slow.

Oh, and I believe the program is freeware/cardware (for private use), not
shareware.


Regards,

Laust
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Date:         Thu, 18 Dec 1997 19:51:59 -0500
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Hello friends,
In the recent HP Palmtop Paper another very good article was written by an automobile mechanic here in Southern California.
(BTW, I really appreciate these kind of articles).
In it he mentioned having written a macro that allows him to change sets of Macros so as not to be limited to just the ten.
I wish I could figure out how to do this.
Any instructions?
Thanks,

Ken Moore

Training Manager

Omni Training Corp (Soldering Training Services & Materials)

http://www.OmniTraining.com

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For one thing, you can install Buddy.  This will allow you 10 different macros per application and give you
the ability to display labels for each macro.  Buddy also adds many other features to you HP-LX.

Check out this web site for more info:

http://www.buddy.com/

--- On Thu, 18 Dec 1997 19:51:59 -0500  "Ken A. Moore" <KenAMoore@OMNITRAINING.COM> wrote:

>Hello friends,
>In the recent HP Palmtop Paper another very good article was written by an automobile mechanic here in
Southern California.
>(BTW, I really appreciate these kind of articles).
>In it he mentioned having written a macro that allows him to change sets of Macros so as not to be limited to
just the ten.
>I wish I could figure out how to do this.
>Any instructions?

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It appears that the Silicom SPE ethernet adapter does not work with a
double speed 200LX.  Has anyone ever gotten any ethernet adapter to work
with a double-speed 200LX?  It shouldn't be that big of a deal to modify
the driver to work with the new crystal, should it?  There's only one
HP-specific program, SEHP.EXE, that enables the card.  Anybody have any
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if you are a macro lover, you should at least consider buddy 3.0.  it allows
you to have a whole slew of macro sets - specific sets for specific
applications.  i don't remember the details, but this may sell buddy to those
who have passed in the past.

        www.buddy.com

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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The windows PIM is a Zip file meant to install copies of the LX PIMs on an
Omnibook laptop running Windows.

Dennis

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I remember an old program called Brooklyn Bridge that allowed one PC to u=
se
another PCs drives over a serrial cable. Anyone using anything like that
now or know where to find it?

Phil Godden
Christmas, then the Cross, changed EVERYTHING!

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Date:         Thu, 18 Dec 1997 22:13:36 -0800
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And if you are a true macro lover, you might want to consider
EasyShare which is a super macro program that can
watch the screen, scrape the screen, read files, readfiles,
control Mainframes etc.

   see: http://www.adisoft-inc.com

At 08:32 PM 12/18/97 EST, Cavendishl wrote:
>if you are a macro lover, you should at least consider buddy 3.0.  it allows
>you to have a whole slew of macro sets - specific sets for specific
>applications.  i don't remember the details, but this may sell buddy to those
>who have passed in the past.
>
>        www.buddy.com
>
>cordially,
>
>lynn m. cavendish
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Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
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On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Phil Godden wrote:

> I remember an old program called Brooklyn Bridge that allowed one PC to use
> another PCs drives over a serrial cable. Anyone using anything like that
> now or know where to find it?

Sounds like what Laplink (built into the LX) and Interlnk (bundled with
DOS 6.x) does.

I run interlnk all the time at work, usually accessing drives A: and C: on
the LX from the Windows 95 Explorer on my desktop using a serial
connection. To my desktop, they look like drives F: and G:.

If you have DOS 6.x, you have interlnk. The instructions are there if you
do a "help interlnk.exe" from the DOS prompt.

I think the "how-tos" on using Laplink to do likewise are detailed in one
of the FAQs at the website on the tagline for this list group.

- Longden

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: I remember an old program called Brooklyn Bridge that allowed one PC to
use
: another PCs drives over a serrial cable. Anyone using anything like that
: now or know where to find it?

Don't know where you'd find that old dog.  But, if you have DOS 6.22 - and
who
doesn't - you can use a pair of programs called Interlnk and Intersvr to
make
one computer's drives "network" drives on the other computer.  Intersvr is
usu.
run on your big computer, and you put Interlnk in CONFIG.SYS on your
palmtop.

I'm in a HOWTO mood, maybe I'll make one for using Interlnk as a file
sync/copy
tool.  It's free (to those of us who use DOS 6) and works very well.  The
other option
is FILELINK, included with Caldera OpenDOS 7, but it _really_ doesn't work
well
at all compared to Interlnk.  Actually, OpenDOS 7 itself doesn't work well
at all
either, but we won't go into that right now. ;)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

The Internet isn't a network of Pentium II's connected with T5
fiber optics - more along the lines of 110 baud land line connections
over rusty wires to compulsive ZX81's.

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Date:         Fri, 19 Dec 1997 09:57:46 +0100
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Other links for tf103.exe are :

ftp://ftp.uni-magdeburg.de/pub/mirror/ftp-boi.external.hp.com/handheld_computers/software/tf103.exe

and also

ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub3/vendor/hp/handheld_computers/software/tf103.exe


I've found these links with the search engine
http://ftpsearch.ntnu.no/ftpsearch

It's very useful to find ftp sites when you know the file's name.

Cheers,

        Vincent
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I'm not sure if I've seen a "how-to" or "it can't be done" on adding a
signature to the exp minifax function.  This is, in my opinion, a major
constraint of the utility of this program.  I usually end up typing up a
doc on the 200 or in word on my subnotebook (compaq aero w/aftermkt 710 m=
eg
drive) and faxing it "by hand".  =

Can anyone tell me how to add a signature to minifax or should i just try=

qfax.  I presume that qfax will be able to take a signature.  What's the
procedure for doing that?  =

Thanks a bunch!   =

PS Too bad about Educalc - nice outfit with nice people.  Nowadays, nobod=
y
knows anything about their stock. Too many  zombie order takers and not
enough professionals or at least folks who take pride in their work. =

although once in a while there's a highly motivated employee.  Then they
leave. Anyway, it's just another reason to hate chain places whether it's=

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Merry Christmas, Season's Greetings, Happy Kwanzaa, Happy Hanukah and
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For those interested in WinCE running DOS, here's some speed related stuff
from the program's author.

rick


In my performance testing of XTCE and the machines it runs on I've been
using a benchmark program which I've compiled for DOS and WinCE. I've been
using this program to determine roughly how efficiently XTCE is running on
a
particular machine...

On a Pentium MMX and Pentium II (under Windows CE emulation), XTCE scores
1/10th of the benchmark result that the Windows CE version gets.

On a Velo, XTCE scores 1/30th of the benchmark result that the Windows CE
version gets.

On an HP320, XTCE scores 1/40th of the benchmark result that the Windows CE
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On an HP360, XTCE scores 1/30th of the benchmark result that the Windows CE
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.
.
.

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Phil Godden wrote:
>
> I remember an old program called Brooklyn Bridge that allowed one PC to use
> another PCs drives over a serrial cable. Anyone using anything like that
> now or know where to find it?
>
> Phil Godden
> Christmas, then the Cross, changed EVERYTHING!
>
Yes, there are at least two possibilities. For anyone using a recent
version of
MS-DOS should have on their computer a program called "intersvr". With
this program,
the HP serial cable and a 'null modem' you can make any other computer
act as a
remote to the first computer. By the way, I have not tried this yet on
the HP200LX
but I use it frequently to transfer files that are too big for the
sneaker net. The
other is the well known laplink program. With either of these you can
transfer files
from one computer to another. There is a third alternative that I
frequently use.
That is, I take the memory card from the HP and put it in the PCMCIA
slot in the
laptop and copy files either direction.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Ian Butler wrote:
>
> : I remember an old program called Brooklyn Bridge that allowed one PC to
> use
> : another PCs drives over a serrial cable. Anyone using anything like that
> : now or know where to find it?
>
> Don't know where you'd find that old dog.  But, if you have DOS 6.22 - and
> who
> doesn't - you can use a pair of programs called Interlnk and Intersvr to
> make
> one computer's drives "network" drives on the other computer.  Intersvr is
> usu.
> run on your big computer, and you put Interlnk in CONFIG.SYS on your
> palmtop.
>
> I'm in a HOWTO mood, maybe I'll make one for using Interlnk as a file
> sync/copy
> tool.  It's free (to those of us who use DOS 6) and works very well.  The
> other option
> is FILELINK, included with Caldera OpenDOS 7, but it _really_ doesn't work
> well
> at all compared to Interlnk.  Actually, OpenDOS 7 itself doesn't work well
> at all
> either, but we won't go into that right now. ;)
>
> Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
> Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
>
Funny how that works. I bought DR-DOS 6.0 many years ago and used it on
all of my computers. Later I added devices that were not DR-DOS
compatible and the DR-DOS had to go. Anyway, the filelink program first
appeared with DR-DOS 6.0 and I used it to my advantage for years.
However, MS put something in their later OS's that made filelink
incompatible with their OS and also their programs not work if the other
computer had another OS besides MS. I felt and still do that MS has
deprived me of legitimate use of software that I owned by this sort of
dealing.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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This is interesting, but I'm not entirely sure how to interpert these... it
seems
to indicate that the emulated version is pretty slow, as might be expected
due to all the extra work the machine has to do.

The big question is...
I'd really like to see a comparison of the DOS version run on
XTCE and on the HP200.  Maybe the author would release the DOS
benchmark program so that we could compare a machine
running XTCE to a machine running DOS like the HP200.
It is almost impossible to compare, but if a (200MHz?) Pentium II is
running programs at 1/10 the speed of a 40MHz RISC processor
(boy how do you compare these...), my gut feeling is that the emulator
is very slow.


Thanks, Bryan

Rick Kozak wrote:

> For those interested in WinCE running DOS, here's some speed related stuff
> from the program's author.

(deleted results to save list space).

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Thanks to all those who quickly responded with the url for the
transfile s/ware! I have d/l'd it and have it already installed and
running on a new win95 box.

Tis really is the season for giving... :-)

Happy Holidays everyone!

Regards,
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>This is interesting, but I'm not entirely sure how to interpert these... it
>seems
>to indicate that the emulated version is pretty slow, as might be expected
>due to all the extra work the machine has to do.
>
>The big question is...
>I'd really like to see a comparison of the DOS version run on
>XTCE and on the HP200.  Maybe the author would release the DOS
>benchmark program so that we could compare a machine
>running XTCE to a machine running DOS like the HP200.
>It is almost impossible to compare, but if a (200MHz?) Pentium II is
>running programs at 1/10 the speed of a 40MHz RISC processor
>(boy how do you compare these...), my gut feeling is that the emulator
>is very slow.
>
>
>Thanks, Bryan

Hi guys,

I agree with you Bryan- very interesting information- but I am also not
sure how to interpret the results. It's good to have some benchmark
results, but in the end, I think it's the result that counts. I mean that
if you want to have a REDRAW of a complex CAD drawing- how long time will
it take to get it on a Win CE machine, HP 200LX and on Desktop with 200 MHz
MMX 64MB SDRAM and the latest Windows version of Acad??? It depends of
course on the type of drawing. But my EasyCAD on my HP 200LX is often
faster than any Pentium machine with the latest version of Acad. It's not
easy to check which machine is the fastest, but for me is the result that
counts!

Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Sat, 20 Dec 1997 09:25:51 -0800
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Greetings,

        I will throw in my second hand information.  Richard Nelson at Educalc
told me that the DOS emulators he had tried for WinCE were painfully
slow.  As usual, he told me not to buy a new machine.

Colin

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Date:         Fri, 19 Dec 1997 12:24:15 EST
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Is there an easy way to convert Quicken 5.0 for DOS files into Pocket
Quicken files?

B. McIlvaine

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Date:         Fri, 19 Dec 1997 22:13:05 +0200
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Hello,

I have HP100LX and very interested to use it as network analyzing tool.
Do anybody knows any software to do it?
Please answer me who have tryed it.

Thanx.

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Date:         Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:49:00 -0500
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Alexander,
        There was an ad for just such a product in a recent issue of the
Palmtop paper.  check out www.guesswork.com.
Jim

-> I have HP100LX and very interested to use it as network analyzing
-> tool. Do anybody knows any software to do it?
-> Please answer me who have tryed it.

--
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Yes Thank You I look at this site and I found very good solution, but it
costs about eight times more than my palmtop.
Maybe something knows freeware or trial versions of software like this
POCKETWatch?
Thanx in advance.

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> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Network Analyzer for dos
> Date: Friday, December 19, 1997 10:49 PM
>
> Alexander,
>         There was an ad for just such a product in a recent issue of the
> Palmtop paper.  check out www.guesswork.com.
> Jim
>
> -> I have HP100LX and very interested to use it as network analyzing
> -> tool. Do anybody knows any software to do it?
> -> Please answer me who have tryed it.
>
> --
>  (jim.henry@airgunhq.com)
>  AirPower Services BBS - (610) 259-2193 - info@airgunhq.com
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Date:         Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:53:33 -0500
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I have two IBM 2mb SRAM pcmcia cards that I am getting rid of (I have
everything on flash cards). A local used parts vendor has offered me $100
per card. I would prefer that they go to a fellow palmtopper so if anyone
is interested they can have them at the same price. Both are working fine.

I also have a 128kb HP SRAM card from my 95LX days. The battery is dead but
if there is a 512k-95LX'er it would make a little extra space for you. It
is free to anyone with a 95LX who needs a little extra space. Just let me
know.

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Date:         Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:21:47 -0500
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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote in thread: Pointer to interesting shareware D=
OS
utility: LINK:

>What I do is create a zero length com file called qb.com that refers to
>maxdos.com. In the sysmgr I then add the newly created .com file qb.com
>with the path/commandline "c:\icons\qb.com -d c:\qb qb.exe"
>This tells MaxDos to start qb, but the SysMgr thinks it is qb it is
>starting!

Following on from this suggestion, I have found an alternative method whi=
ch
allows the user to select any icon for an application as follows:

When installing an application in SysMgr, the user is only provided a
choice of three standard icons, or an icon of the same name as the progra=
m
being installed (if one exists in the same directory as the application
being installed). This is a nuisance when installing applications that lo=
ad
under MaxDos, as the SysMgr only allows the custom icon to be maxdos.icn =
in
the MaxDos directory. =


It is possible to set an icon to be different in name to the program it
runs by first installing a program having the same name as the custom ico=
n
file you wish to use (or use a dummy *.BAT as the initial program if
required), select the custom icon and then change the name of the program=

to the one required. The icon remains at the original  icon.

For example:
1) Create a directory called ICONS in which you place all your icons and
for each icon a matching empty batch file of the same name with the .BAT
extension
2) Enter Add application mode in SysMgr
3) Set path to point the the batch file having the same name as the icon
you wish to use
4) Select custom icon required
5) Reset path to the actual program you want to load - can be a MaxDos ty=
pe
command line
6) Exit Add application mode and SysMgr will show the custom icon
7) The dummy *.BAT can then be removed if required.

I'm not sure if this is a feature or a bug but it is useful.

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:29:15 EST
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Subject:      Re: Speed of Dos under Win CE

> Hi guys,
>
> I agree with you Bryan- very interesting information- but I am also not
> sure how to interpret the results. It's good to have some benchmark
> results, but in the end, I think it's the result that counts. I mean that
> if you want to have a REDRAW of a complex CAD drawing- how long time will
> it take to get it on a Win CE machine, HP 200LX and on Desktop with 200 MHz
> MMX 64MB SDRAM and the latest Windows version of Acad??? It depends of
> course on the type of drawing. But my EasyCAD on my HP 200LX is often
> faster than any Pentium machine with the latest version of Acad. It's not
> easy to check which machine is the fastest, but for me is the result that
> counts!
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>

The real test, though, would be to run easyCAD on BOTH the hp200 and the
pentium, in THE SAME screen resolution (Ie CGA 4 color) and THEN see which
is faster. It is not suprising that AutoCAD in some VGA or higher
resolution is slower than a similar but simpler program running in a much
lower resolution. In MANY cases programs are significantly slowed down by
the video manipulations they are required to do.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Business Division
Tidewater Community College

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Russel Brooks wrote:
>
> I've been playing with an interesting utility called LINK.  By using
> zero length COM & EXEC files, a small 'index' file and a 600 byte TSR
> It allows you to establish links on your disk that point to the real
> code elsewhere.
>
>    ftp.tu-clausthal.de/msdos/utils/dostools/linkln11.zip

Hi Russ
thanks, sounds interesting
the path needs "pub"
ftp://ftp.tu-clausthal.de/pub/msdos/utils/dostools/linkln11.zip
Cheers
JS

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Date:         Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:13:36 -0600
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Hi all;
I came upon an unusual problem that's so odd I can't believe its happening.

I MENU, TERMINATE and go into DOS.
Do all kinds of stuff in DOS with no problem.
The problem is when I do a 200 to get back into Sys Apps
the )*$#*#$%( machine blanks and locks up TIGHT.
Three finger or Shift/On don't do noth-thing.
The only way I can get out of this is to take all the batteries out.
Then of course, I gots to reload C:
I redid the routine and it happens all 3 times I tried.
Seems like an imbeded problem as I see no way to get into sys apps once in
DOS.

Can anyone shed some light on this problem?
Is it a weirdo or did I forget to plug it in somewhere?

all the best, yor pal al......................

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Date:         Fri, 19 Dec 1997 22:07:40 EST
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In a message dated 97-12-19 20:06:35 EST, you write:

<< The real test, though, would be to run easyCAD on BOTH the hp200 and the
 pentium, in THE SAME screen resolution (Ie CGA 4 color) and THEN see which
 is faster. >>

if you can find me anyone who runs a pentium in cga4, i will agree that that
is a fair test -- at least for him.  the true test is how long it takes to do
measurable work in each environment, working the way one works in that
environment.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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as i understand it, your problem is this:

1.  in systems manager, everything is as it should be.

2.  close all applecations.

3.  select, {&} {menu} {A} {T} {enter}

4.  type, {200} {enter}

5.  now, your system is dead.  "ctl-left shift-on" gives no results.

6.  batteries out for a while, and it starts again.

first, delete config.sys and autoexec.bat from a: and c:  (or at least rename
them)

take any card in the pcmcia slot out.

do another hard re-boot, starting with the d:\bin's start-up files.

exit systems manager.

type {200} {enter}

if that locks you up, i believe that you have a hardware problem, or a virus.

you could also search for hidden or archived files.

you could also leave the batteries out for a day or two, to drain all residual
data.

apprehensively,

lynn m. cavendish

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    Hi all, I'm back to this list after almost a year of lapse.  If you
don't remember me, I'm the one that submitted FingerPaint to SUPER, and also
that cuted little game, rogue.
    Anyway, I own a copy of Software Carousal for the palmtop, but my
palmtop died a horrible death, and I lost the disk.  Would anybody kind
enough to email me the disk?  I'm not asking to pirate software, I can show
proof of ownership, SC user manual, registeration card, etc.  If anybody
wants, I can fax to him/her the registeration card of SC, or put a photo of
it on the web.
    Well, how did my palmtop died?  Here's my story...
    About a year ago, my poor 200LX got crushed between the door frame of a
friend's car, the screen broke, but the little thing went on working.
    Heart broken, I sold the remains of 200LX to someone on the net for
parts for $75.  Since then, I went through the USR Pilot, then the Psion
series 5, and now finally I traded the Psion for a 200LX.  Nothing beats the
little palmtop pc.
    So, anyone take pity on me and email me a copy?  I'll gladly show proof
of ownership.

        Thanks, and happy holidays.

                    Yi

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Date:         Sat, 20 Dec 1997 12:38:49 +0800
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-----Original Message-----
From: HOBCHI <hobchi@MCI2000.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: 20 December 1997 10:13
Subject: 200 Lockup

>I MENU, TERMINATE and go into DOS.
>Do all kinds of stuff in DOS with no problem.
>The problem is when I do a 200 to get back into Sys Apps
>the )*$#*#$%( machine blanks and locks up TIGHT.

This happened to me using Times2Tech TREMM.SYS.  Earlier versions have this
bug.  If you're using TREMM, ask the vendor for a later version, or get it
from Mack Bagette.


David

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Date:         Sat, 20 Dec 1997 09:42:26 -0500
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Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
>
> I agree with you Bryan- very interesting information- but I am also not
> sure how to interpret the results. It's good to have some benchmark
> results, but in the end, I think it's the result that counts. I mean that
> if you want to have a REDRAW of a complex CAD drawing- how long time will
> it take to get it on a Win CE machine, HP 200LX and on Desktop with 200 MHz
> MMX 64MB SDRAM and the latest Windows version of Acad??? It depends of
> course on the type of drawing. But my EasyCAD on my HP 200LX is often
> faster than any Pentium machine with the latest version of Acad. It's not
> easy to check which machine is the fastest, but for me is the result that
> counts!
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>
Jorgen,

Please tell me about "easyCAD". What does it do? Where do I find it? How
much does it cost? Thanks a lot.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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I am as happy as a kid with a new toy. Thanks to people in this mail
group and an Australian company, I have a Chinese lnaguage text editor
running on my HP200LX. I talked to Chinese friends here and got the
thought that this was not possible. In fact, ho one had ever seen
Chinese on a CGA screen. I think that it is almost certain that it will
not be seen on Win-CE.

This system which has been abandoned by its creators lets you enter,
edit, display, and print in Chinese. You can use either the simplified
characters used in the PRC or the orthodox characters used in Singapore,
Taiwan and elsewhere.

Thanks all around.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Date:         Sat, 21 Dec 1996 08:30:14 -0500
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 Anyone have a old broken LX for sale?
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Date:         Sat, 20 Dec 1997 15:48:11 +0100
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> Hello,
>
> I have HP100LX and very interested to use it as network analyzing tool.
> Do anybody knows any software to do it?
> Please answer me who have tryed it.
>

Try ethload by E. Vynke at http://www.ping.be/~pin01407/ethload.html with
the Silicom PCMCIA ethernet card. Works just fine!

-fix

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On Sat, 20 Dec 1997, David Mather <david@mather.com> wrote:

da> >I MENU, TERMINATE and go into DOS.
da> >Do all kinds of stuff in DOS with no problem.
da> >The problem is when I do a 200 to get back into Sys Apps
da> >the )*$#*#$%( machine blanks and locks up TIGHT.
da>
da> This happened to me using Times2Tech TREMM.SYS.  Earlier versions =
have this
da> bug.  If you're using TREMM, ask the vendor for a later version, or =
get it
da> from Mack Bagette.

David, i also suffer from this problem and it seems to have appeared
after my 2x upgrade because i can't remember having it all along. My
machine also locks up tight but a hard reset gets me going again. I
have tried removing tremm from memory but the problem persists. Seems
to be related to the 2x somehow...

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On Sat, 20 Dec 1997, Ian Melville wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Dec 1997, David Mather <david@mather.com> wrote:
>
> da> >I MENU, TERMINATE and go into DOS.
> da> >Do all kinds of stuff in DOS with no problem.
> da> >The problem is when I do a 200 to get back into Sys Apps
> da> >the )*$#*#$%( machine blanks and locks up TIGHT.
> da>
> da> This happened to me using Times2Tech TREMM.SYS.  Earlier versions have this
> da> bug.  If you're using TREMM, ask the vendor for a later version, or get it
> da> from Mack Bagette.
>
> David, i also suffer from this problem and it seems to have appeared
> after my 2x upgrade because i can't remember having it all along. My
> machine also locks up tight but a hard reset gets me going again. I
> have tried removing tremm from memory but the problem persists. Seems
> to be related to the 2x somehow...
>
> Regards,

#include <Your/Mileage/Will/vary.h>

Very curious. I'm using the Times2Tech product happily. I have a HP200lx
I've had the machine both upgraded in memory and in speed, and I have no
problems.

If you wish, I could always upload my AUTOEXEC.BAT, and relevant files
my machine uses to an ftp directory in the interests of trying to debug
( I'd want to check with Mack that this was cool tho, shouldn't be a
biggie. )

I've not seen *knocks*on*wood* any problems with ANY of the products that
have come out of Times2Tech.


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Subject:      T, theTiny editor, less than 10k

Editors are like religions, everybody likes their own and you take your
life in your hands when trying to convince someone to change.

However, if you're between religions, ...I mean editors, let me recommend
a really good one when you consider its size.

  ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/os2_ews/tinyed.zip

T.EXE (from the above zip) is under 10k in size which makes it an ideal
candidate for a DOS palmtop like the HPLX.  It can be configured via
an included program to match your needs.

If you decide to give T a try the following screen colors are what I
used when configuring the editor for my HP200LX.

   color data lines    = white on black
   color mark lines    = black on white
   color show lines    = white on black
   color shadow cursor = black on white
   color command line  = black on white
   color status line   = white on black
   color help line     = white on black
   color message line  = white on black

T can do automatic line wrap at a margin you specify.  It can reflow
lines.  It has search and replace commands.  It has line and blocks of
lines, copy and move (and delete).  ..,and many other functions.

I am sure there are many more powerful editors out there, you probably
are using one already, but I doubt they are as small as T.

T is also good for that emergency diskette you keep near your desktop
for recovery when the pc crashes.  10k on a diskette leaves a lot of
room for other tools you may also need.

Happy Holidays!
Cheers...
Russ

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Markus Fix wrote:

> Try ethload by E. Vynke at http://www.ping.be/~pin01407/ethload.html with
> the Silicom PCMCIA ethernet card. Works just fine!


As long as you don't have a speed-doubled 200LX.  Silicom apparently doesn't
care about supporting anything other than a factory-fresh palmtop.
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Last night I decided to try a little experiment on my speed-doubled
200LX.  I recently bought a Silicom ethernet card without knowing that
it didn't work in the 2x 200LX.  Silicom didn't seem to care.  So I
wondered what would happen if I hooked up BOTH crystals, the 1x and the
2x, and switched between them while the machine was on-- kind of like
the Turbo switch on a desktop.  Well, unfortunately, in the process of
rigging it up, I damaged SOMETHING on the motherboard, because when I
was done, there were vertical columns of pixels missing approximately
every 8 pixels all the way across the screen.  The ribbon cable was
fine, the white video connector seems fine, but those pixels just
wouln't come back.  I tried every possible combination, and have come to
the conclusion that it must be something on the board itself.  Mack
Baggette, great guy that he is, was up until 2:30 in the morning mailing
me back and forth about it.  Anyway, despite this tragedy, I somehow
worked through the blinding stream of tears :) and continued on with the
experiment.  Well, to make it short, it seemed to work.  I could switch
the crystals back and forth, and the only noticeable effect was the
screen would shift over slightly when the 2x crystal was on, and it
would shift back with the normal crystal.  (I didn't have the speed
driver loaded-- if I had, it probably would've been normal for the 2x
and have had a "strobe" effect for the 1x.)  Anyway, I'm now doing a
couple more experiments before I ship this baby off to Times2Tech on
Monday.  So my questions are:
1) Does anybody know what could cause every eighth pixel to be missing?
2) Does anybody have a 200LX 2MB for sale?
3) Can anybody think of a good place to store two crystals inside the
200LX and a place to put the switch on the outside?  Bear in mind, the
area immediately to the left of the PCMCIA socket has already been used
by a speaker jack.
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Today I found the Cyber Exchange at 7344 Kenwood Road Cincinnati, Ohio
ph 513-794-4488 email cyber@choice.net
Dave Appleby runs it.  He has in stock Lotus agenda, lotus 123 (3 dos
versions), harvard graphics, various cad programs, dbase, etc.  all in
the boxes with manuals (and virus checked).  I bought Harvard graphics
($12.99) and 123 3.0 for dos ($17.99).  He said he would welcome email
and he also keeps a "wanted" list as he picks up old software.
Cheers
Ron

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Okay, I've done a little more with the "turbo switch" concept.  It seems
that sometimes when you flip the switch the calculator will have to be
rebooted.  But if you turn it off first, then flip it, then go back on,
you can do it safely.

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> > easyCAD on hp200 and pentium, with SAME resolution - CGA 4 color
>
> if you can find me anyone who runs a pentium in cga4, i will agree that that
> is a fair test -- at least for him.  the true test is how long it takes to do
> measurable work in each environment, working the way one works in that
> environment.

Hmmmm... a *very* interesting point! And what if our pentium hero found that
well, yes, CGA easyCAD *was* productive for most work! And 10(?) times
faster? Just not as pretty, impressive or cool...

This reminds me of the latest version of Word, which requires a Pentium to
run reasonably...



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Hi,

Can someone direct me to a tiny program to turn the port on, and another
to turn it off?

I need to have the serial port on to play midi-files (through a separate
midi device). But I don't want to have it on *all* the time because
it drains power... presently, I turn it on and off from the (S)etup
program in System Manager... but I know that some programs turn it
on and off automatically (such as zip, the file transfer program).

I can call these two tiny programs from the batch program I use to invoke
the midi-player...

Thanks!
PS this is for a presentation of my MML music composition, Wednesday...


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I'm interested in the IR programming. I have a portable printer with an IR
interface from Japan which was made for Sharps (Japanese original) Zaurus,
but that the company (Logitec, KK; not the U.S. Logitec, Inc. {coyright
infringement??? I don't know}) was going to make an interface for the
HP200LX but didn't. I guess when they discovered that the HP200LX's IR was
not IRDA. Anyways, ever since I've be wanting to figure out a way to
modify the HP's IR interface to be able to print to the Logitec printer.

Anyone else in a similar situation?
Best regards and happy holidays!
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On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:

> I would guess that the BIOS routines are too slow. You will probably have
> to make the program interrupt driven. You can try to do it without timeout
> (using the clock interrupt) if it is only for a printer as the printer is
> probably way too slow (if you point in the right direction, that is).
>
> I would be very interested in your progress!
> Unless there is a general interest in this, maybe further correspondance
> should be private? Anybody else interested?

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The Pentium running emulated WinCE presumably 'corrects' for the speed of
the WinCE machine so things aren't flying around the screen, as well.
Benchmarks (I guess hardware independent) would be the most interesting,
such as the CAD comments.  Now we need a CAD program for WinCE <vbg> :)

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As someone that actually have hands on experience with the WinCE SDK and
compiler, the WinCE running on Pentium under Windows NT 4.0 aren't really
"emulated".

Other than a small part of WinCE that's actually hardware dependent, the
whole OS is actually recompiled to run NATIVELY on the pentium.  Likewise
during software development for WinCE, the programs are compiled into x86
opcodes to run on the PC.  When the program is ready, it is then that a
cross-compiler is used that compiles to the target platform opcode.

Nothing is emulated.  (Only the WinCE api is layered on top of the Win32 api
on the PC.)

            Yi

BTW, doesn't anyone have Software Carousal?  There haven't been any reply to
my original request.

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The Pentium running emulated WinCE presumably 'corrects' for the speed of
the WinCE machine so things aren't flying around the screen, as well.
Benchmarks (I guess hardware independent) would be the most interesting,
such as the CAD comments.  Now we need a CAD program for WinCE <vbg> :)

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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 05:53:38 +0000
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On 1997-12-20 david@mather.com said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >-----Original Message-----
   >Date: 20 December 1997 10:13
   >>I MENU, TERMINATE and go into DOS.
   >>Do all kinds of stuff in DOS with no problem.
   >>The problem is when I do a 200 to get back into Sys Apps
   >>the )*$#*#$%( machine blanks and locks up TIGHT.

   >This happened to me using Times2Tech TREMM.SYS.  Earlier versions
   >have this bug.  If you're using TREMM, ask the vendor for a later
   >version, or get it from Mack Bagette.

So do you happen to know version numbers for the "earlier" and "later"
versions?  I have the T2T 2x upgrades also, but haven't seen the kinds
of lockups you describe.

- Longden

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On 1997-12-21 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >Can someone direct me to a tiny program to turn the port on, and
   >another to turn it off?

Isn't this what the built-in d:\bin\serctl.com does? When I want to run the
DOS intersvr program to transfer files via the serial port, I go to DOS and
run a batch file that does the following:
        d:\bin\serctl /w
        a:\dos\intersvr.exe /com:1
        d:\bin\serctl /o

I don't have my LX manual in front of me, but I think the /w option turns
on power for the wired serial port; /i turns on power for the IR port; and
/o turns off the power.  I normally have Setup configured with Com1 port
power in DOS=off.

   >PS this is for a presentation of my MML music composition,
   >Wednesday...

Good luck to you.

- Longden

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Hi all,

I remember there was a thread some time back on backlight for the 200LX
and the project was to build the backlight, going for about USD100.00 or
so. I wonder what happen to it? Is it still on?

To me, one of the biggest problem with the 200LX is the lack of
backlight (also, one of the biggest temptation for me to go over to the
Psion camp)

One cannot work if one cannot see properly.


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Hi all,

I bought a flashcard 2 weeks ago from a photoshop for about MYR650.00.
This flashcard is meant for the Kodak DC25 digital camera. It's a
compact flash (10Mb) with a PC card adaptor. It works perfectly on the
200LX.

Thought I let the list know that there's another flashcard in the market
for the 200LX.

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On 19 Dec 97 at 22:07, Cavendishl wrote:

> In a message dated 97-12-19 20:06:35 EST, you write:
>
> << The real test, though, would be to run easyCAD on BOTH the hp200
> and the
>  pentium, in THE SAME screen resolution (Ie CGA 4 color) and THEN
>  see which is faster. >>
>
> if you can find me anyone who runs a pentium in cga4, i will agree
> that that is a fair test -- at least for him.  the true test is how
> long it takes to do measurable work in each environment, working the
> way one works in that environment.
>
> cordially,
>
> lynn m. cavendish
>

Thats entirely true if all you are talking about is functionality but
the original content was dealing with benchmarks. If you are going to
use a program to benchmark a system for speed comparisons you have to
make the systems as similar as possible for a reasonable result.
Otherwise the results are totally meaningless. I can always say that
my 11 year old honda can beat a brand new corvette in a race any day
any time, as long as the corvette is pulling a 10000 pound trailer,
but of course that doesn't mean anything.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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> I bought a flashcard 2 weeks ago from a photoshop for about MYR650.00.
What's MYR?  US$ is probably easiest for comparison.


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figure I'd rather have the 100LX's loose hinge/popping  problem than
the 200LS's hinge cracking problem :-)

thanks for taking the time
Regards,
Tony
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OK, I've slowly started working on making LXFileman a bit more useful in
dealing with using the LX with a UNIX workstation, drawing on ideas from
other connection kits. The first phase is transferring word processing
documents. I'd like to have it (optionally) convert MEMO .doc files to
.rtf for use in WordPerfect, Applixware, etc.

I have a package called rtfmemo.zip which has two apps, MEMO2RTF and
RTF2MEMO, along with source. First, does anyone know who wrote this?
There's no attribution in the source, no READMEs, etc... Second, I'm
having trouble with the RTF2MEMO code, as it has some _asm{} blocks that I
assume are x86 assembly code. While I'm using i386 Linux and might be able
to convert the C to get it to run here, I'd prefer to make something that
is not CPU-specific. After all, there are some Sparc Solaris folks using
LXFileman. Briefly, here's the three _asm chunks:

_asm{
mov al,buffer0        ; get the first character
shl al,1                ; shift it left 4 places
shl al,1
shl al,1
shl al,1
add al,buffer1        ; or in the second character
mov buffer0,al        ; save character in buffer0
}

_asm{mov al,0};

_asm{ mov ds:di,al};

Any help would be most appreciated. Also, the pristine rtfmemo.zip archive
is available at http://www.clark.net/pub/peterw/LXFileman/

-Peter

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Hi C P,

Are you talking about Sun Disk?  Does it work like a hard disk without
additional program and driver?

Thanks,

Raymond

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At 02:11 PM 21/12/97 +2000, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I bought a flashcard 2 weeks ago from a photoshop for about MYR650.00.
>This flashcard is meant for the Kodak DC25 digital camera. It's a
>compact flash (10Mb) with a PC card adaptor. It works perfectly on the
>200LX.
>
>Thought I let the list know that there's another flashcard in the market
>for the 200LX.
>
>cpwong@tm.net.my
>
>
>Net-Tamer V 1.10.1 Palm Top - Test Drive
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Hi CP
Are you doing everything with the COMPACT
flash card with no problems?

BTW: Are you in Kuala Lumpur?
MYR ar ringitts?

yor pal al.....................................................

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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 17:09:56 +0000
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On 1997-12-21 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >> I bought a flashcard 2 weeks ago from a photoshop for about

   >MYR650.00. What's MYR?  US$ is probably easiest for comparison.

According to David Eggins "cntry.gdb" that he uploaded to Rob Tillotson's
database area, MYR is Malaysian Ringgit. And according to the LX currency
convertor, this translates to roughly US$234.

Given that I haven't updated the currency figures for several months and
the recent turmoil in the Asian markets, I'd recompute the number with more
current exchange values before making any other conclusions about the pricing.

- Longden

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Does anybody have a summary of which flash cards work on
the 95/100/200 palmtops?

I recently switched to NiCad's on both my 95 and 100 - that
makes it a lot more fun and useful when not being concerned
about eating up the batteries.  So useful, in fact, it's time
to upgrade the memory...

Thanks,

Bill
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Bill Vodall wrote:
>
> Does anybody have a summary of which flash cards work on
> the 95/100/200 palmtops?
>
> I recently switched to NiCad's on both my 95 and 100 - that
> makes it a lot more fun and useful when not being concerned
> about eating up the batteries.  So useful, in fact, it's time
> to upgrade the memory...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
> wa7nwp@bigsky.com
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I believe only SRAM works on HP95's.  Was told so by rep at www.alix.com
who sells SRAM and flash mem.  Their SRAM worked seamlessly on my HP95
but was expensive per MB.

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Date:         Sun, 21 Dec 1997 19:41:52 -0500
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I have just bought a 10Mb compact flashcard (SanDisk) for my 2Mb 200LX: a=

PCMCIA adapter with a compact card - no drivers or anything else as it is=
 a
real 10Mb card, not a compressed 5Mb. Works like a dream but it is of
course early days.

Merry Christmas and a brilliant new MS-DOS year to you all!
May your future become WinCE-free!

Jorgen
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1) translates to (you are allowed to put brackets anywhere and can
therefore declare local variables close to the place they are used):

  {
    char c =3D buffer0;
    c <<=3D 4;          // c *=3D 16;
    buffer1 +=3D c;
    buffer0 =3D c;
  }
NOTE: you don't really need to declare c but it makes the code more
readable? This is how I would code it for myself:

  *buffer <<=3D 4;
  *(buffer+1) +=3D *buffer;

which will do the same. (I have not testet any of these as I need the ful=
l
code anyway for the rest)

2) I need the context for this.
_asm{mov al,0};

3) same here. ds:di is a pointer to somewhere in a buffer.
_asm{ mov ds:di,al};

Send me the full code and I will have a go at the full code.

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Seasons Greetings to All,

On Sunday, 21 December 1997, Bill Vodall wrote:-

< Does anybody have a summary of which flash cards work well on the
< 95/100/200 palmtops?

This must be one of the most important issues to a lot of people in
these memory-hungry times.  In fact our Group in Australia/New Zealand
is currently canvassing this very issue, not only to find a
satisfactory card but perhaps to reap the benefits of bulk buying.  We
are interested in the higher end of the storage capacity range, some
of us wishing to double the capacity using Stacker or equivalent.

Although we have not got a definitive or exhaustive answer and still
await some information, it looks on paper (or should that be disk?) as
if the best buys in terms of reliable make combined with low prices
are:-

Simple Technology, 40Mb..$286
Vicing Components, 32Mb..$289

However, even with these cards there are still some points to be
clarified, if any of you can help.  For instance, there have been
suggestions that the Simple Technology cards are not compatible with
Stacker.  There have also been warnings that the LX Palmtops cannot
handle storage cards above 80Mb and that speed of information transfer
is reduced.

Obviously there could be many permutations in trying to compromise,
for it is certainly that.  I have been perfectly satisfied with my
Sandisk 4Mb ATA card which I use on my 100LX (with Double Speed) in
conjunction with Stacker to get to nearly 8Mb.  I have observed no
difference in speed of information transfer to and from the card as
compared to the C: drive and it is just as easy to write directly to
it.  When transferring the card to my new 200LX8Mb Double Speed the
install file was immediately presented on the A=E: drive and simply by
highlighting it and pressing ENTER the decompressed files appeared
literally in a flash!

However, such cards are at the more expensive end of the market and
this counts when ranging up to 40Mb.  What we really need is some sort
of "Consumers' Guide" organisation to investigate such cards.  Short
of that, it is in our own interests to pool information.

Regards,

Barry Collins
<collib@atom.forensic.sa.gov.au>
TEAM 200LX

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Looking for ideas for faxing from the palmtop:
 1) built-in apps (especially Memo, 1-2-3)
 2) DOS apps, e.g. WordPerfect 5.1

A friend is looking into palmtops for word processing & email, which the
200LX sounds great for (Newton, CE, others depend on big brother desktop to
convert file formats, are not good for extended periods spent away from a
"regular" computer), but I know he'll also want to fax occasionally and I
haven't got a clue how that is done.

Also, any suggestions DOS apps to convert between commercial file formats?
Unfortunately WP 5.1's CONVERT.EXE does not support RTF, and 5.1 predates
HTML, so the only "standard" that WP 5.1 buys you is... WordPerfect <= 5.1

Thanks.

-Peter

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Date:         Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:20:51 +0100
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>Can someone direct me to a tiny program to turn the port on, and another
>to turn it off?

Try LxPro. It's a very nice TSR with lotsa features. Switching serial port
power on/off is among them, and you can pop it up almost anywhere.

Regards. Nacho.

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Nowadays, there are following memory cards readily available on the market.
 I would like to have some guidance which one is most cost effective in
terms of speed and power consumption to go for with ongoing future.

ATA flash card                  Cheapest
CompactFlash card               Modest
SmartMedia SSFDC card   Expensive

Thanks and regards,

Raymond

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Nowadays, there are following memory cards readily available on the market.
 I would like to have some guidance which one is most cost effective in
terms of speed and power consumption to go for with ongoing future.

ATA flash card                  Cheapest
CompactFlash card               Moderate
SmartMedia SSFDC card   Expensive

Thanks and regards,

Raymond

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On Tue, 16 Dec 1997, George Chow <gchow@MERCURY.BC.CA> wrote:

gc> 1.  Some posters mentioned that the EXP card could not be stacked or
gc> jammed because a device driver was 'in the way'.

You do not have to worry about this George because exp has built support
for stacker into its lxm cards for about a year and a half now - even
says 'stacker compatible' on the box. I have used both ver 3 and 4 very
successfully on this card (mine is about 16mths old).

gc> 2.  Some posters mentioned that you can't use the modem unless you
gc> install a driver. Is that so? How big is this driver?

That's right but the driver you need is in the 200lx's rom (cic100) and
this sets up the slot as com2 - which is what the modem uses. The
driver uses 6.912k of conventional mem when installed.

NB: If you use this card w/maxdos or carousel you should ensure to have
cic100 loaded at all times or in each work area even if the modem isn't
used in that area to avoid enexpected problems with the flash memory.

gc> 3.  How big is a typical fax? If the MiniFax software could receive
gc> faxes into the flash card, that would be really handy. Is there a =
viewer
gc> available on the LX?

A single page of text (ie: a fax coversheet) will soak up 48~52k.
However the software is very reliable (most of the time <g>) and i use
it to successfully receive faxes all the time - got a 17-pager from
halfway around the world just the other day without a problem on any of
the pages! As i recall that mfx file was almost 1mb in size...

Viewing received faxes is a breeze (especially with minifax's great fax
log) however the faxes cannot be scaled to fit the width of the lx's
screen and you must pan left and right as well as up and down to view
each page. Tedious with a 17-pager but you can send the fax to a
nearby fax machine or printer if you desire. Images of an outgoing fax
can be retained if desired but these are removed by default but it is
possible to preview an outgoing fax before it is sent by retaining the
image.

gc> Is there any other sources for the modem that
gc> anyone can suggest? Shier has the 4Mb/modem combo for USD269 and the =
8Mb
gc> for USD339.

The lxm cards are pricey i'll admit but represent tremendous
convenience and utility for the 200/100lx's. I got mine from NSW in
California (nsupply@nsupply.com) - you will surely get top pricing and
service from the guys over there!

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On Tue, 16 Dec 1997, George Chow <gchow@MERCURY.BC.CA> wrote:

gc> If the MiniFax software could receive
gc> faxes into the flash card, that would be really handy...

Oops... forgot the best part: yes, the fax receive path is user
selectable and it can most definitely be the flash portion of the card
(which is designated drive F:).

Also worthy of note is the fact that if you choose to fax an ascii
file that resides on your c: drive then you must also have about 50k
free for each page of the fax because the temp fax image is stored
where the file resides! This can be avoided by moving the file to be
faxed to your f: drive or another drive with sufficient free space.
MinFax will fax only ascii and memo-formatted files - sorry, no pcx or
bitmap images so including your signature is not possible.

Regards,
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Date:         Mon, 22 Dec 1997 07:24:19 PST
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      REXX programming language

Interested in a new programming language?  How about REXX?

  http://www.quercus-sys.com/rexxdemo.htm

You can download a demo version of Quercus's Systems REXX for DOS at
the above URL.  It's only cripple is that it is limited to programs
of 50 lines or less.  REXX.EXE is about 130k in size.

I've been using REXX for about 13 years and love it!  REXX is an
interpreted language so you just write the code and run it; no
compiling necessary.  Of course this also means Rexx can not match
compiled languages for speed.  REXX's strong point is ease of use.
Most anyone can write small useable programs almost immediately.

Cheers...
Russ

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Subject:      Standing in line for OB6DSK.ZIP

I would very much like to download the file: OB6DSK.zip. However, the only place I know to do it is America On-Line. I haven't used AOL for quite some time and was under the impression that their hook up and overload problems had been resolved.
I have now tried to download the above mentioned file several times and keep getting the message, "too many requests pending at this time, try again later when we catch our breath".
My question is this:
Is there a real web site that carries this file yet, or do I need to continue to stand in line at the AOL post office?
Trying to be kind and maintain etiquette,
Ken Moore

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Date:         Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:42:38 -0500
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Joe:

Your final grade in MKTG901, Marketing Strategy this semester
is an "A".  Good work.

Clinton B Schertzer, Ph.D.
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Date: Monday, December 22, 1997 11:03 AM
Subject: Standing in line for OB6DSK.ZIP


>I would very much like to download the file: OB6DSK.zip. However, the only
place I know to do it is America On-Line. I haven't used AOL for quite some
time and was under the impression that their hook up and overload problems
had been resolved.
>I have now tried to download the above mentioned file several times and
keep getting the message, "too many requests pending at this time, try again
later when we catch our breath".
>My question is this:
>Is there a real web site that carries this file yet, or do I need to
continue to stand in line at the AOL post office?
>Trying to be kind and maintain etiquette,
>Ken Moore
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Date:         Mon, 22 Dec 1997 09:46:58 -0700
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I am very interested in the 128K ram card.   It is worth some money to me.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent:   Friday, December 19, 1997 2:54 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        FS 2mb SRAM

I have two IBM 2mb SRAM pcmcia cards that I am getting rid of (I have
everything on flash cards). A local used parts vendor has offered me $100
per card. I would prefer that they go to a fellow palmtopper so if anyone
is interested they can have them at the same price. Both are working fine.

I also have a 128kb HP SRAM card from my 95LX days. The battery is dead but
if there is a 512k-95LX'er it would make a little extra space for you. It
is free to anyone with a 95LX who needs a little extra space. Just let me
know.

Marc Maxwell
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I'm hoping someone might know the answer to this (or at least be in
the market for a flash card :-) ) I just got a flash card that I
purchased from a private party. I thought I had followed the common
wisdom on what does/doesn't work but... The card is a Simple
Technologies 20 meg ATA flash. When I insert the card, the 100lx does
not recognize it. When I attempt to write to it, the HP says A: is
not ready or available. When I try to format it, it tells me the
format is not supported.
So, is there a way to use this card in the 100lx? Does it work in the
200lx ? I thought I had seen info on using ATA cards in these. If
there's no way to make this work, best offer gets it. It is by the
way brand new with all packaging and warranty. TIA
In His Service,
Pastor Mike Gibson

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Hi, folks:

I own a factory 4MB HP200LX, and I'm planning to upgrade it to 6 or 8MB. As
the 4MB model is a 2MB with a HP 2MB memory board, the upgrade will replace
it and in the end I'll be stuck with it.

Would anybody be willing to buy it for a reasonable price ?

Regards. Nacho.

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----- forwarded message -----
Date  Mon, 22 Dec 97 10:10:13
From  "TOM GIBSON" <TOM.GIBSON@thaddeus.com>
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Subject  Re: Standing in line for OB6DSK.ZIP


     Ken,

     You can find the file at:

     http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/Ob6dsk.zip

     Tom Gibson
     Technical Editor - The HP Palmtop Paper


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I would very much like to download the file: OB6DSK.zip. However, the=
 only place
I know to do it is America On-Line. I haven't used AOL for quite some=
 time and
wa s under the impression that their hook up and overload problems had=
 been
resolved .
I have now tried to download the above mentioned file several times=
 and keep
gett ing the message, "too many requests pending at this time, try again=
 later
when w e catch our breath".
My question is this:
Is there a real web site that carries this file yet, or do I need to=
 continue to
stand in line at the AOL post office?
Trying to be kind and maintain etiquette,

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I might be interested.  If all 200's can take the upgrade. What is a
reasonable price?  Also, since I would be installing it myself, is there
instructions on how to get into the 200lx.

Mike Irwin

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Date:         Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:01:54 -0800
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>figure I'd rather have the 100LX's loose hinge/popping  problem than
>the 200LS's hinge cracking problem :-)

Being an HP100LX owner, I have to point out that the 100LX is *NOT* immune
to the hinge crack problem.  That is exactly what happened to my 100LX a
year and a half ago.

I ended up sending it to Corvallis for repair.  Besides the broken hinge,
they repaired the latch, replaced my keyboard (despite my having repaired
it several times), and replaced the scratched screen.  Best of all, it was
done free of charge out of warranty.  I'll say, I was rather impressed
with the service HP gave me.

regards,

Jose

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Date:         Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:06:39 -0500
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              Yi Wang <yi@SPRINTMAIL.COM>
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From: MIKEIR <MIKEIR@AOL.COM>
>I might be interested.  If all 200's can take the upgrade. What is a
>reasonable price?  Also, since I would be installing it myself, is there
>instructions on how to get into the 200lx.

Speaking of instructions, you can call Notebook supply warehouse, and ask
them about the 4meg memory upgrade, and they'll fax you forms and detail
instructions how to install the memory upgrade yourself.

            Yi

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Date:         Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:40:58 -0500
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              Laurence Harvey <harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>Can someone direct me to a tiny program to turn the port on, and another=

>to turn it off?

Use the SERCTL command built into the 200LX as follows:
SERCTL /O       Turns off power to active port
SERCTL /W       Turns on power to serial port
SERCTL /I               Turns on power to the IR port

It's amazing what you find when you read the 200LX manual - page 25-9

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Mon, 22 Dec 1997 12:24:24 -0800
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Okay, I've done a little more research into the possibility of hooking
up a double-speed crystal and a single-speed crystal and switching back
and forth between them.  I've had mixed results.  For the most part, it
worked well if the switch was changed while the machine was off, but
sometimes it would result in a dark line across the screen, requiring a
hard-reset.  Occasionally (when I shorted crystal wires) a hard-reset
would not work for several minutes.

The Silicom ethernet card only works when the unit is in single-speed
mode.  If you load the drivers and access the network in single-speed
mode, then switch over to 2x mode hoping to gain some performance, it
won't work, as far as I could tell.  Therefore, the only use I can think
of would be to be able to use the machine in single-speed mode while on
the network and in 2x mode the rest of the time.  There might be some
other programs that require a single-speed unit, but I'm not aware of
any.

So, I'm back to my original question: can anybody think of a good place
inside the 200LX to store both crystals, and a place on the outside of
the case to install a switch to choose between them?

--
Visit the HP200LX web pages at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:55:13 -0600
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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I have seen a technique used to switch between two antennas at a very
high clock speed ( <140mhz) using varactor (sp) diodes and AND gates.
The AND gates are used to "find" the zero crossing point in the sign
wave of the running antenna's signal (could be a crystal in this case)
and "hold-off" the switch until the zero voltage point.  You still need
a toggle switch to direct the switch operation (or I guess if you got
real busy, you could decode an address for this).  I have only
seen/heard of this technique, and there is no way I have the skills to
implement it, so please don't ask.

Phil

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>
>Okay, I've done a little more research into the possibility of hooking
>up a double-speed crystal and a single-speed crystal and switching back
>and forth between them.  I've had mixed results.  For the most part, it
>worked well if the switch was changed while the machine was off, but
>sometimes it would result in a dark line across the screen, requiring a
hard-reset
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Date:         Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:54:49 -0600
Reply-To:     Stephen Christie <schristi@midway.uchicago.edu>
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Subject:      Re: HP200LX Chinese
Comments: To: anborg@ksts.seed.net.tw
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Well, why keep the rest of us in the dark. What's the name of the program?
Where can others find it for their systems?

I apologize if I missed a posting but I read the initial request and
haven't notice a reply giving an answer, so I guess they replied to you
directly. But it would be nice to share such information with the rest of
us.

For those interested in Japanese, check-out Jim Breen's page at monash:

http://www.rdt.monash.edu.au/~jwb/japanese.html

Have a good holiday season!
Steve
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University of Chicago

On Sat, 20 Dec 1997, anborg wrote:

> I am as happy as a kid with a new toy. Thanks to people in this mail
> group and an Australian company, I have a Chinese lnaguage text editor
> running on my HP200LX. I talked to Chinese friends here and got the
> thought that this was not possible. In fact, ho one had ever seen
> Chinese on a CGA screen. I think that it is almost certain that it will
> not be seen on Win-CE.
>
> This system which has been abandoned by its creators lets you enter,
> edit, display, and print in Chinese. You can use either the simplified
> characters used in the PRC or the orthodox characters used in Singapore,
> Taiwan and elsewhere.
>
> Thanks all around.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Art Borg
>
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Subject:      Comlink

I tried this before; got no reaction.
Is there anyone out there using comlink. This pgm is used for setting up you
pcmcia modem and your palmtop as an external modem to your PC. I use version
1 without problems, but when I try to use version 2 or 3, my palmtop
crashes. I then only can use ctrl+shift+on. Anyone? Please!


Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Mon, 22 Dec 1997 15:51:52 -0600
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I have and use version 3.0 and it works ok.  I have not tried it on my
x2/8meg palmtop.  Comlink is a resource pig, I assume you have tried it
with all other applications closed, if not...

Phil

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>Sent:  Monday, December 22, 1997 4:38 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Comlink
>
>I tried this before; got no reaction.
>Is there anyone out there using comlink. This pgm is used for setting up you
>pcmcia modem and your palmtop as an external modem to your PC. I use version
>1 without problems, but when I try to use version 2 or 3, my palmtop
>crashes. I then only can use ctrl+shift+on. Anyone? Please!
>
>
>Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn
>

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I would like to try comlink. Where can I find it?

karl

At 10:38 PM 12/22/97 -1, you wrote:
>I tried this before; got no reaction.
>Is there anyone out there using comlink. This pgm is used for setting up you
>pcmcia modem and your palmtop as an external modem to your PC. I use version
>1 without problems, but when I try to use version 2 or 3, my palmtop
>crashes. I then only can use ctrl+shift+on. Anyone? Please!
>
>
>Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn
>
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On Sun, 21 Dec 1997 19:41:52 -0500, you wrote:

>I have just bought a 10Mb compact flashcard (SanDisk) for my 2Mb 200LX: =
a
>PCMCIA adapter with a compact card - no drivers or anything else as it =
is a
>real 10Mb card, not a compressed 5Mb. Works like a dream but it is of
>course early days.

Enjoy!  Keep us informed.

>Merry Christmas and a brilliant new MS-DOS year to you all!
>May your future become WinCE-free!

And the same to you, but surely you meant "stay" WinCE-free?

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
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i had the same problem with my wife's 100lx.  she could not use any of my ata
cards.  i added the ace card driver (can't remember if it went in autoexec or
config.sys.  i'll check if no one else has an answer.)  now they work like a
charm.  it was an easy fix.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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> Hi, folks:
>
> I own a factory 4MB HP200LX, and I'm planning to upgrade it to 6 or 8MB. As
> the 4MB model is a 2MB with a HP 2MB memory board, the upgrade will replace
> it and in the end I'll be stuck with it.

I'm in the same position...


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I recently got a used MHz modem - 28.8 fax modem- but it does not have
the driver disk.  What is needed to get this running.  I figure from the
discussions on this list in the past that I will need to use the power
adapter on this, no problem, I just want to get it running.  Do I need
to get the card socket drivers and load them when booting?

TIA,
scott
sbarrett@concentric.net

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I too use a Mhz modem all I use is the cic100 file that can be found on
the d: in the bin directory. It is loaded when my autoexec.bat file funs.
I think it looks something like this:

d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1

I hope this helps, good luck!!!

By the way, Happy Holidays everyone (more politically correct than Merry
Christmas :-)   )


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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Bill Vodall wrote:
>
> Does anybody have a summary of which flash cards work on
> the 95/100/200 palmtops?

I use a 10MB SANDISK flash card both for my Ricoh RDC-2 Digital Camera and my
HP-200LX. The flash card works very well. The card is plug & play, nothing to
do with it. Just insert onto the PCMCIA slot, and it ready for use. However, I
do not compress the card with any compression software, to keep it compatible
between both machines. Anyway, the file format of *.J6I (RDC-2 file format) or
*.JPG is binary and they could not be compressed any better with most
compression software.

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Greetings:

     This is my first visit to HPLX-l, so if I make any mistakes, please
excuse and correct me.

    I am using (or trying to use) Intellisync with my HP-200LX and not
getting good results. The version of Intellisync for the Palm Pilot
(Yeah, I've got one of those too. It was a gift, honest.)

    Anyway, the Intellisync version for the HP seems to put things in
the wrong places, adds entries when it shouldn't and a myriad of other
problems.

    Has anybody out there used this combination with good results.

    Oh, yes, I'm syncing to Daytimer-98 in both cases, and my address
book has both business and personal entries in it. I have noted that
Puma Software in not going to support Intellisync to HPs after the LX.
Maybe that should tell me something.

    If anybody can help, it will be greatly appreciated. If not, I guess
that I'll have to use the PalmPilot.

    Frank

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Comments: To: "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Indeed Dennis was right about HP's 200lx web page being abandoned.
I for one don't like it when a manufacturer abandons a product (and
distributors {eg Educalc} of a product) I have made a sizable time and
financial investment in. So I wanted them to know how I felt. You can do
the same at their feedback URL:

http://www.hp.com/handheld/feedback/feedback.htm

Perhaps if enough of us let them know how we feel they'll abandon that
personal opinion here misadventure with Microsoft in yet another
attempt to take over yet another market in its (Microsoft's) quest for
world domination in all areas of computing with another lame first
generation product (ie Windows CE) wherein they let the poor consumer do
all the trouble-shooting for them and ID all the bugs. Perhaps like
Windows 3.x, Windows CE 3.x will finally be a product people can put to
good use. Unfortunately, HP has jumped on the Microsoft bandwagon and
embraced the CE platform. But worse yet is to add insult to injury by
abandoning the people who have made the palmtop products a viable market,
the 95,100,200LX owners of the world.

Well, I've gone on my rant. Happy holidays to all.
P.S. Don't think from what I've written that I don't want to see 320LX
postings. I love to hear about their tribulations. It just adds support to
the arguement that HP made a mistake in partnering with Microsoft's WinCE
platform. Keep those postings of WinCE shortcomings coming!

And to all a happy new year!
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University of Chicago

On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Longden C. Loo wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Dennis Faucher wrote:
>
> >      You will be happy to know that HP is still adding new content to
> >      www.hp.com positioning the 200LX.  See
> >      <http://www.hp.com/handheld/communicators/700lx_or_200lx.html>
>
> Thanks for the info Dennis. They must still be working on it tho. The
> HP200LX hypertext link gets the msg "The requested object was not found on
> this server".....the adjacent HP OmniGo 700LX link correctly gets to the
> 700LX page. Maybe you can point this out to them in case they're clueless.
>
> - Longden
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At 22:38 22/12/97 -1, you wrote:
>I tried this before; got no reaction.
>Is there anyone out there using comlink. This pgm is used for setting up you
>pcmcia modem and your palmtop as an external modem to your PC. I use version
>1 without problems, but when I try to use version 2 or 3, my palmtop
>crashes. I then only can use ctrl+shift+on. Anyone? Please!

All I can tell is that I've used Comlink version 3 in my single-speed 4MB
HP200LX with no problems at all.

Regards. Nacho.

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On Mon, 22 Dec 1997, Bas Pruijn <126479bp@STUDENT.EUR.NL> wrote:

> Is there anyone out there using comlink. This pgm is used for setting
> up you pcmcia modem and your palmtop as an external modem to your PC.
> I use version 1 without problems, but when I try to use version 2 or
> 3, my palmtop crashes. I then only can use ctrl+shift+on. Anyone?
> Please!

Bas, i have used comlink 3 on my existing 200lx (before the 2x
upgrade) without any problems. Also ran it on a friend's 2mb 200lx
again without problems. It is an extremely useful utility and i always
keep a copy handy on my machine - don't know why you're having
problems tho.

Are you sure your copy has not been corrupted in some way? I have had
programs that mysteriously stop working and after reloading a fresh
copy of the executable its on the road again...

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Would someone please point out to me the (shareware?) or commercial
software available to convert from Quicken 5.0 to Pocket Quicken?
Thanks.

Brian McIlvaine

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Brian,

Intuit has a program that allows synchronization between Pocket Quicken and the desktop versions.  It's called
Quicken Pocket Connect.

You might want to check their web site.  I got my copy with my HP 200LX.

Michael

--- On Tue, 23 Dec 1997 08:40:28 EST  Brian A McIlvaine <bamcilvaine@JUNO.COM> wrote:

>Would someone please point out to me the (shareware?) or commercial
>software available to convert from Quicken 5.0 to Pocket Quicken?
>Thanks.
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A big thank you to all those who responded to my cry for help. With
all the suggestions, diagnostic work, and a kind soul who sent me the
missing driver I now have a fully operational card. An especially big
thanks to Quinton and Lynn for all they did. I thought we had a great
group of people here, now I KNOW.
In His Service,
Pastor Mike Gibson

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Pastor Mike Gibson wrote:
>... The card is a Simple Technologies 20 meg ATA flash. When I insert the card,
the 100lx does not recognize it. When I
> attempt to write to it, the HP says A: is not ready or available. When I try
to format it, it tells me the format is not
>supported. So, is there a way to use this card in the 100lx? Does it work in
the 200lx ? I thought I had seen info on
>using ATA cards in these. If there's no way to make this work, best offer gets
it. It is by the way brand new with all
>packaging and warranty. TIA

I'm afraid I have bad news for you: I experienced the same thing with my 100LX
and two different ATA Flash cards I tried -- a Simple Technologies 8MB and  a
Viking 10MB. Both cards DO work in a 200LX, however.

Although I can't find this mentioned in any FAQ, it seems that the only ATA
Flash cards that work in 100LXs are those manufactured by Sandisk and sold under
the labels Sandisk, Sundisk, HP, IBM and Epson.

Can any 100LX users in the group confirm that they have been able to use ATA
Flash cards other than those above? If so, what version/build date is your
100LX? (To find out your version, reboot and watch the opening screen. To find
out your build date, look at your  serial number on the bottom -- it's
SGywwnnnnn where "y" is the last digit of the year and "ww" is the week. Mine is
1.01a, built in 1993, week 15.)

By the way, I have a Maxtor LINEAR (non-ATA) Flash card that works fine in my
100LX, albeit slow, but I have to keep the TFF (True Flask File) device driver
loaded in RAM to operate it.

Bruce Martin

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Bruce,
As the guys showed me, ATA cards DO work with the 100lx when the Ace
card driver is installed. :-)
In His Service,
Pastor Mike Gibson

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On 19 Dec 97 at 3:54, thomas e. nemeth wrote:


> Can anyone tell me how to add a signature to minifax or should i just try
> qfax.  I presume that qfax will be able to take a signature.  What's the
> procedure for doing that?

I didn't figure how to add a signature to minifax. Succefully a
tested Qfax and the program is able to insert PCX files in a text
file before compose and send the FAX. I believe that QFAX is better
than Minifax. You can find QFax at SUPER ( read the
instructions in version 1.08 and 1.11) and if you get any contact
with the Qfax author please let me know.


Merry Christmas, Season's Greetings, Happy Kwanzaa, Happy Hanukah and
Ramadan Kareem, Feliz Natal e Boas Festas

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Date:         Tue, 23 Dec 1997 11:42:45 -0500
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> I own a factory 4MB HP200LX, and I'm planning to upgrade it to 6 or 8MB.
As the 4MB model is a 2MB with a HP 2MB memory board, the upgrade will
replace
> it and in the end I'll be stuck with it.

Please excuse my ignorance...but I don't understand what you will be stuck
with? Your HP that you just upgraded? I'm confused and I don't like to be
that way. Could you elaborate for those of use who are a little brain dead,
maybe one of us could help?

Alex Arancio

Email:  store4u@troutsegall.com (business)
        Realestateconsultant@erols.com (personal)

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From:         Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Help! ATA flash in 100lx?

Tue, 23 Dec 1997 09:53:36, wrote:

> Can any 100LX users in the group confirm that they have been able to use
> ATA Flash cards other than those above? If so, what version/build date is
> your 100LX? (To find out your version, reboot and watch the opening screen. To
> find out your build date, look at your  serial number on the bottom -- it's
> SGywwnnnnn where "y" is the last digit of the year and "ww" is the week.
> Mine is 1.01a, built in 1993, week 15.)

I can confirm it!

As with the Linear type cards a separate driver is some times needed for
ATA and compact flash ( 100LX only).

Driver needed:
acecard.com

If any one else is in needed of this driver drop me a line. (:-D







Regards,

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/ /_/ / / / / / / / /_/ / / / / _ _
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Date:         Tue, 23 Dec 1997 10:46:37 -0800
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              David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
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> Please excuse my ignorance...but I don't understand what you will be
stuck with?

He'll be stuck with the 2MB memory card.  The 4MB 200LX has 2MB on the
motherboard and a 2MB daughterboard.  The 6MB or 8MB upgrade will
replace the 2MB daughterboard with a 4MB card or a 6MB card (and a
little more, in the case of the 8MB upgrade) resulting in a spare 2MB
card.  Same problem the owners of the early 2MB units faced-- 1MB on
board and 1MB on card.  Replace the card, lose a meg in the transaction.

--
Visit the HP200LX web pages at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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     Hi!
     I just attempted do go to the feedback URL of HP but there is no such
     thing. Just to let you all know.

     To al from 6000ft. + all the best.


     Helmut in Colorado

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>The 2 mb memory card... Replace the card, lose a meg in the transaction.

Thanks for the obvious explanation. I reread it and I guess the brain has finally kicked in.

Alex Arancio
Trout, Segall & Doyle LLC

Email:  store4u@troutsegall.com (business)
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Date:         Tue, 23 Dec 1997 18:33:28 -0500
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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I am in process of getting a 2X Upgrade and have been running turbocpu on a
single speed. Has anyone played with upping the speed of a 2X??

Curious

Russell

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Ken (et al.),
I downloaded the file from AOL. I will forward to anyone who requests.

Dennis

Ken, if you haven't gotten the file by now, drop me a line.

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Date:         Wed, 24 Dec 1997 12:21:03 -1
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On 1997-12-22 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >I tried this before; got no reaction.
   >Is there anyone out there using comlink. This pgm is used for
   >setting up you pcmcia modem and your palmtop as an external modem
   >to your PC. I use version 1 without problems, but when I try to use
   >version 2 or 3, my palmtop crashes. I then only can use
   >ctrl+shift+on. Anyone? Please!

I think I have to add some more info to the above posting. I am using an
HP700lx. (this should be an extended 200lx, but...?) My modem is an exp
lxm1414 with 2MB of flash. When comlink 2 or3 starts to move parts of the
screen, my machine locks up. Now I also have some problems with version 1.
After some time online I get an message: Sorry, error 15. The only thing
left for me to do is to close comlink, and thereby lose my connection to the

ISP.
Anyone out there who is using a 700lx? Can you confirm these problems?

Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

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Subject:      nettamer

Could someone please point out to me what is new in nettamer version 1.10.1
w.r.t. 1.10 for the palmtop. I started downloading it about 15 times, but
every time my connection dropped before receiving the whole zipfile.

thanks

Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

PS  merry X-mas to Y'all

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Greetings Bas:

        On Wed, 24 Dec 1997 12:21:10 -1, You Wrote:

> Could someone please point out to me what is new in nettamer
> version 1.10.1 w.r.t. 1.10 for the palmtop...

        I had a problem with the first v1.1 In that when I tried to=
 run
GDSpell, the screen was garbeled. I pointed this out to Uncle Dave (
this problem has occurred in the first release of the previous two
revisions as well). Anyway, the screen is OK in v 1.01.1. There may=
 be
other minor bug fixes as well.

        While we are on the subject, the "N" key while viewing messages
used to skip to the next message didn't it? I don't see that working=
 in
v 1.10.1?

Cheers & of course, Merry Christmas!

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Subject:      Big database on LX?

I have a friend who collects books, and needs to keep track of 10,000 books.
He'd like to do it on his LX, but his IS guys tell him that our HPs can't
sort on more than 1000 or so entries/records in a database. I've mentioned
using dBASE III, but he replied that they were adamant on having exhausted
all possibilities.

Anyone have some contrary info? How do we keep track of his books?

TIA!

wally

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Subject:      Mirror III

Item Subject: cc:Mail Text
     Hi!
     Has any one ever used Mirror III program by Softklone? Any information
     would be very much appreciated.

     Thank you and all the best from 6000 ft up.

     Helmut in Colorado

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Date:         Wed, 24 Dec 1997 11:58:57 -0500
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I realize that this question is blasphemy, but here goes:

How can I move my Phonebook data from my 200LX to a non-HP WinCE machine? I know HP provides conversion software with their WinCE machines, but the one I'm trying out isn't HP.

No, I'm not abandoning the 200LX. Thus far the WinCE box serves two purposes, and one of them is games. The other is writing, PocketWord is superior to Memo in terms of formatting and fonts, not to mention printing. The 200LX isn't far away, though. It's at the bottom of my briefcase, where it's spent all but five minutes thus far this week. I guess that tells you how important my Phonebook data is....

Kiyoshi Akima
kakima@usa.net

____________________________________________________________________
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              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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Subject:      Re: Standing in line for OB6DSK.ZIP
Comments: cc: Class3Dep@AOL.COM

On 1997-12-24 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
 HP>Message-ID:  <25ed4db5.34a0abb7@aol.com>
 HP>Date:         Wed, 24 Dec 1997 01:29:09 EST
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 HP>Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com)
 HP>Ken (et al.),
 HP>I downloaded the file from AOL. I will forward to anyone who
 HP>requests. Dennis
 HP>Ken, if you haven't gotten the file by now, drop me a line.
Would be interested to receive OB6DSK.ZIP
Thanks beforehand.


Styrofoam Hot Drink Cup and Press Any Key! - Registered

Net-Tamer V 1.10  - Registered

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Subject:      Closing filer
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Hi:

Filer always open was getting on my nerves, because it consumes 53K of
memory and I hardly use it. So, I downloaded that program from S.U.P.E.R.
that does just that, allow you to close filer.

But just don't work. I've done it in a dozen of different ways, and it
always says it was successfull, but still can't close filer.

Has anybody any clue about what I'm doing wrong ?

Regards. Nacho.

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Nacho,

I just tried it (used to use it all the time before Software Carousel) to
refresh my memory.

What I do is execute the program from within Filer (by highlighting it and
pressing enter twice?  I use Buddy and PNS so your method may be a little
different), then go to SysMgr, highlight filer, and press F6 to close it.

Regards, David

In a message dated 97-12-24 13:05:00 EST, you write:

<< But just don't work. I've done it in a dozen of different ways, and it
 always says it was successfull, but still can't close filer.

 Has anybody any clue about what I'm doing wrong ?

 Regards. Nacho. >>

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Date:         Wed, 24 Dec 1997 12:04:22 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Macro to change Macro Set
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On 18 Dec 1997, Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM> wrote:

> ... EasyShare which is a super macro program that can
> watch the screen, scrape the screen, read files, readfiles,
> control Mainframes etc.

Can it work within System Manager? TIA

  Avi M. D&A

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On Sun, 21 Dec 1997, Brendan Macmillan <bren@cs.monash.edu.au>
wrote:

> Hmmmm... a *very* interesting point! And what if our pentium hero found =
that
> well, yes, CGA easyCAD *was* productive for most work! And 10(?) times
> faster? Just not as pretty, impressive or cool...

when you get paid for what you produce, "cool", "impressive",
and "pretty" does not amount to much pay! Unless you are an ad
agency, or artistic something <G>...

  Avi M. D&A

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On Fri, 19 Dec 1997 Laurence Harvey <harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM>,
wrote:

> Following on from this suggestion, I have found an alternative method =
whi
> ch
> allows the user to select any icon for an application as follows:
>
> When installing an application in SysMgr, the user is only provided a
> choice of three standard icons, or an icon of the same name as the =
progra
> m
> being installed (if one exists in the same directory as the application
> being installed). This is a nuisance when installing applications that =
lo
> ad
> under MaxDos, as the SysMgr only allows the custom icon to be maxdos.icn
> in
> the MaxDos directory.
>
> It is possible to set an icon to be different in name to the program it
> runs by first installing a program having the same name as the custom =
ico
> n
> file you wish to use (or use a dummy *.BAT as the initial program if
> required), select the custom icon and then change the name of the =
program
>
> to the one required. The icon remains at the original  icon.
>
> For example:
> 1) Create a directory called ICONS in which you place all your icons =
and
> for each icon a matching empty batch file of the same name with the =
.BAT
> extension
> 2) Enter Add application mode in SysMgr
> 3) Set path to point the the batch file having the same name as the =
icon
> you wish to use
> 4) Select custom icon required
> 5) Reset path to the actual program you want to load - can be a MaxDos =
ty
> pe
> command line
> 6) Exit Add application mode and SysMgr will show the custom icon
> 7) The dummy *.BAT can then be removed if required.
>
> I'm not sure if this is a feature or a bug but it is useful.

Harvey, I discovered and posted this trick on HPHAND lib on
Compuserve two or three years ago, ICONSET.ZIP.

The method is even more flexible. You start by entering the
path for an icon, whereever it is! Does not have to be in same
library as app or on an icons directory (though it is useful
to group them). Then tab until you see the icon in the little
window. Once it is there, then APPMGR.DAT contains the icon
file. Tab back to the path, and enter the path for the
application. Do NOT tab back to the icon window. Press F10 and
you are set. You can even delete the icon from the disk,
because a copy of it was already placed in the APPMGR.DAT.

AFAIK it is not a bug, but not necessarily how they intended
it. Nevertheless, as you know it works.

  Avi M. D&A

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Date:         Wed, 24 Dec 1997 12:04:16 -0800
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On Dec. 18 1997 Lynn M. Cavendish wrote:

> if you are a macro lover, you should at least consider buddy 3.0.  it =
allows
> you to have a whole slew of macro sets - specific sets for specific
> applications.  i don't remember the details, but this may sell buddy to =
those
> who have passed in the past.

I am one who passed Buddy over in the past because of the
heavy penalty in memory for many features that I would not use.
I tested Buddy several times for extended periods.

I found two things about Buddy:

1. It is an incredibly well-written and smart application!

2. The feature set I tend to use is narrow, and therefore the
memory price of Buddy too high for my particular needs.

Everyone I recommended it to (over 30 people), has been raving
about it! I'd recommend it in a heartbeat to anyone, even if I
do not use it.

  Avi M. D&A>

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On  Wed, 24 Dec 1997 13:05:00 EST, you wrote:

> But just don't work. I've done it in a dozen of different ways, and
> it  always says it was successfull, but still can't close filer.


What I do is execute Filer from SysMgr, then hit the More (&...) key
to go back to SysMgr, highlight filer, and press F6 to close it.

There's really no need for the extra closefiler program. Try it!







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Date:         Wed, 24 Dec 1997 15:49:38 EST
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actually, according to the hp200lx manual, the theoretical max is about 5,000
items. (see page 4-30).  if there are logical divisions so that your friend
could break his books into 3 groups -- fiction, non-fiction, text books,
foreign language, or whatever, he could do it that way.

i certainly don't see why dbase wouldn't work, although it seems like a pretty
big gun for a limited task.  there are quite a few simpler data bases.

agenda data bases are limited to 4meg. that would only allow 400 bytes per
book.

i don't know what the max data base size for lotus 2.4.  if it is too small,
later versions, or a proper version of quatropro, would do the trick.

those are just a few ideas.  i'm sure someone else will have even better
ideas.

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Message-ID: <19971225031206.AAA8204@202.188.22.221>

Dear all,

   >> I bought a flashcard 2 weeks ago from a photoshop for about
   >MYR650.00. What's MYR?  US$ is probably easiest for comparison.

My apologies, but with the exchange rate going like a yo-yo in
Malaysia... Anyway, I think it's about USD100.00. In any case, it's not
a good idea to compare with what I have 'cos it's definitely more
expensive here when compared to the same thing bought in USA.

cpwong



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        Well, there is an obvious, if kludgy, solution. First, MANUALLY
subdivide his 10,000 books into 10 equal sized categories with 1,000 books in
each. Second, store the records for the books in 10 separate databases, each
within the capabilities of the HPLX database application.

        The books are unlikely to subdivide naturally into 10 EQUAL
categories, but e.g. 12 somewhat unequal categories may still yield a largest
category that is still practical.
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Merry Christmas to all and to all a good nights. (:-D



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EasyCAD sounds terrific.  Is it shareware and where does one find it?

Thanks.


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->> ... EasyShare which is a super macro program that can
->> watch the screen, scrape the screen, read files, readfiles,
->> control Mainframes etc.

Where does one find EasyShare?  Is it commercial, shareware, etc.?


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Hello !

I am a new enthousiastic HP 200 Lx user from Switzerland ! I have a
problem with my Flash memory card and wonder if anybody had the same
problem ?
I am using a "Magic Ram 20 MB  PC Card": As soon as I insert my
memory card (or if I switch it on with the RAM card in it) my palmtop stops
working for about 10 seconds ...  This is very ennoying when you use the
palmtop often. If I extract my PCMCIA card during this "frozen" period, the
palmtop is working immediatly again...
If  you have an idea of what I could do, thank you for a little e-mail at:
                  axel.finckh@hcuge.ch

Thank you, and happy new year !
                                                              Axel

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Axel,

When you call up the Filer program with a flashcard installed, it
appears to re-read the card, which takes a long time with a 20MB card
installed.  You should not notice the delay using any other program
on the 200LX.  To avoid multiple delays, do not leave the Filer as
your active program.  Use the appointment calendar.

Jim

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Subject: Big database on LX?

   Date:
        Tue, 23 Dec 1997 07:45:18 -0800
  From:
        Waldemar Kowalski <wally@NCAG.EDU>

I am running dbase II on an HP95LX for my wife's bird list.

It works fine, doesn't use more than about 110K of memory, and 10,000
records should easily be within capacity, given a large enough card to
store the data.

Because of the time necessary to index, I create the index and/or
re-index on a PC and then download the files to the HP.

Bob

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In know that the best English dictionary runing under dos, on HP *00lx is
American Heritage definition plus. But I have never seen it.
My question is: how big is it? Can I run it without a memory card (I have a

200LX with 4 Meg)? If yes, I would be interested to buy one, so let me
know about any source.

Currently I use JORJ, fairly good, but missing specialized terms and the
possibility of adding new words.
My second question: is there any English dictionary able to add new words
and definitions?

Finaly, as I learn French and German, are there any good dictionaries for
these languages, or smaller ones able to add words?

I could start programming in BASIC an upgradable dictionary from scratch,
to be used for each of these languages, but first I want to see if anything
is
already available.

Regards,
Consuel Ionica
ionica@acsu.buffalo.edu
Dept. Anthropology
SUNY Buffalo

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Avi -

> 2. The feature set I tend to use is narrow, and therefore the
> memory price of Buddy too high for my particular needs.

I do not use many of Buddy's features, but have chosen to pay this penalty
for those that I DO use. I was, however, a late adopter.

I would be interested to know which Buddy functions you DO utilize (even
if their functionality is provided, in your case, by other software), and
what other software you use for these purposes.

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Axel FINCKH wrote:

> I am using a "Magic Ram 20 MB  PC Card": As soon as I insert my
> memory card (or if I switch it on with the RAM card in it) my palmtop stops
> working for about 10 seconds ...  This is very ennoying when you use the


In my experience, every time this happens, the flash card is about to go bad.
It should be no more than a fraction of a second pause.  I'd get it fixed as
soon as possible, and don't trust important data to the card.
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Jim Carlson wrote:

> When you call up the Filer program with a flashcard installed, it
> appears to re-read the card, which takes a long time with a 20MB card
> installed.  You should not notice the delay using any other program
> on the 200LX.  To avoid multiple delays, do not leave the Filer as
> your active program.  Use the appointment calendar.


It still takes a moment when you insert it to figure out what kind of
card it is and allow access to the flash card.  I've had several cards,
all greater than 20 megs, and on the two that've died the first sign of
impending doom was a much-inreased time between insertion and when the
machine would respond to keys.  Once the cards were fixed (under
warranty) the problem went away, and it is only a split second between
insertion or turning the machine on and the time it can be used.
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              Cavendishl <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
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hp200ls manual, page 2-8:

Caution    Turn the palmtop off befor inserting or removing
                any plut-in memory card.  Otherwise, the
                information on the card may be lost.

since i have always taken that comment seriously, i have no experience with
hot-swapping cards.  i know some people get away with with some regularity.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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              "Rodger N. Bird II" <rbird2@MICH.COM>
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The Version I have takes up 5 meg. It is a dictionary and thesaurus. I run it from the flash card Drive A;

Rodger

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To:  HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:  American Heritage definition plus and other dictionaries

In know that the best English dictionary runing under dos, on HP *00lx is
American Heritage definition plus. But I have never seen it.
My question is: how big is it? Can I run it without a memory card (I have a

200LX with 4 Meg)? If yes, I would be interested to buy one, so let me
know about any source.

Currently I use JORJ, fairly good, but missing specialized terms and the
possibility of adding new words.
My second question: is there any English dictionary able to add new words
and definitions?

Finaly, as I learn French and German, are there any good dictionaries for
these languages, or smaller ones able to add words?

I could start programming in BASIC an upgradable dictionary from scratch,
to be used for each of these languages, but first I want to see if anything
is
already available.

Regards,
Consuel Ionica
ionica@acsu.buffalo.edu
Dept. Anthropology
SUNY Buffalo

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Date:         Fri, 26 Dec 1997 08:22:58 +0800
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        Hi,

        On Christmas day a new 14.4 Megahertz modem was first plugged
into my 200LX.  The first attempt to connect to the host was successful
from ccMail.  However as I reconnect it again with the same setting and
configuration, the error says "Could not detect modem".  The same
problem occurs in DataCom.  Instead when I do a connect from DataCom,
the whole system hangs.

        Same cable, same modem, same setup but failed to connect the
second time.  Can someone shed a light on this?


        Regards,
        Catherine

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Date:         Fri, 26 Dec 1997 09:52:16 +0800
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Hi All Rex Users,

I would like to hear the comments and usage of Rex from the actual user.
Especially, the current users who are using HP 200LX as their PDA.

Thanks and regards,

Raymond

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At 04:53 PM 12/19/1997 -0500, you wrote:
>I also have a 128kb HP SRAM card from my 95LX days. The battery is dead but
>if there is a 512k-95LX'er it would make a little extra space for you. It
>is free to anyone with a 95LX who needs a little extra space. Just let me
>know.
>
>Marc Maxwell
>TSS Network Services
>mmaxwell@mail.tds.net
>
I still use my 95lx but it now has 1meg - I'm interested if your offer if
you still have it& it might work....

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On 1997-12-23 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >I am in process of getting a 2X Upgrade and have been running
   >turbocpu on a single speed. Has anyone played with upping the speed
   >of a 2X??
   >Curious
   >Russell
Hi russell,
can you, or anyone else explain to me what turbocpu is?

Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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This is a probably a frequently asked question, but the FAQ didn't really
have a good answer... Does anyone know of a particularly good brand of
rechargable batteries for the LX200? I just got a 14400 PCMCIA modem, and
when i plug it in, the battery meter drops several notches. I guess the best
solution is to get some great batteries and an AC adapter and recharge every
night.

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Mike Schiraldi wrote:

> This is a probably a frequently asked question, but the FAQ didn't really
> have a good answer... Does anyone know of a particularly good brand of
> rechargable batteries for the LX200? I just got a 14400 PCMCIA modem, and
> when i plug it in, the battery meter drops several notches. I guess the best
> solution is to get some great batteries and an AC adapter and recharge every
> night.


Times2 Tech has great NiMH batteries.  1350 mAh.  There are some benchmarks up
in the "Reviews" section of my site.  I've been meaning to add it to the faq at
my site, but I haven't done it yet.  Guess I better get on the ball.  :)
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Date:         Fri, 26 Dec 1997 08:37:46 -0500
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              Jorgen Dybdahl <JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>In know that the best English dictionary runing under dos, on HP *00lx i=
s
>American Heritage definition plus. =


For those with more humble needs: I have Roget Thesaurus in ASCII format
on mine: 1.5Mb. Buerg's LIST.COM can be used for reading. I downloaded
it from Gutenberg.


For those with plenty of space: Gutenberg has Webster in two formats:
HTML (one big file!) and "home grown" codes.

I have an AWK script that is quite successful (I have lost at least one
line for some reason and have to assume there are problems in other
places) in converting the special codes to ASCII: the end result is
28Mb.

Webster comes with pronounciation codes which makes it difficult to
search for a word:

<hw>Ab"ba*cy</hw> <pr>(#)</pr>, <pos>n.</pos>; <plu>pl.
<plw>Abbacies</plw> <pr>(#)</pr>.</plu> <ety>L. <ets>abbatia</ets>, fr.
<ets>abbas</ets>, <ets>abbatis</ets>, abbot. See <er>Abbey</er>.</ety>
<def>The dignity, estate, or jurisdiction of an abbot.</def>


My AWK script will however insert a clean version of the word and put
the original word in parentheses like this:

Abbacy  (Ab"ba*cy)  (#), n.; pl.  Abbacies (#).  L.  abbatia, fr.
abbas, abbatis, abbot.  See =BBAbbey=AB. The dignity, estate, or
jurisdiction of an abbot.

(my homemade browser use the ASCII 16 and 17 characters. This is easily
changed in the script).

Email me if interested.

I expect one day to finish a C version (the AWK script is piped through
a formatting filter taking an awful long time even on a Pentium Pro).
I have finished the "fun" part and halfway lost interest as I am happy
with the result. I will however give the project a priority if I can
spot a huge interest (or at least try to find the error in the AWK
script).

Jorgen

   =

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Comments: To: Jim Carlson <carlson2@STARTEXT.NET>

Text of message from carlson2@STARTEXT.NET, 25 Dec 1997, 09:03 AM
> Axel,
>
> When you call up the Filer program with a flashcard installed, it
> appears to re-read the card, which takes a long time with a 20MB card
> installed.  You should not notice the delay using any other program
> on the 200LX.  To avoid multiple delays, do not leave the Filer as
> your active program.  Use the appointment calendar.
>
> Jim

My solution is that if I leave it active I do a full screen display of the
C drive.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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Subject:      How to Remove JAM from Flash PC Card?

I tried to fit a real large program on a JAM'd 15 Mb Sandisk flash PC
card.  I filled the disk to overflowing and locked my HPLX 200 up tight.
I pulled the batteries and am starting from scratch.  Can someone tell me
how to either remove JAM from the card or to reformat it.  I seem to
remember reading somewhere that I can ruin the card by reformating it
with the DOS format command so have been a little reluctant to do that.

Anyone give me any free advice on how to re-initialize my PC card?
Thanks for your help.

Joe Murphy
jpmurphy1@juno.com
jmurphe@ibm.net

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              "Don S. Penner" <dspenner@PCS.MB.CA>
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At 01:29 12/24/97 EST, you wrote:
>Ken (et al.),
>I downloaded the file from AOL. I will forward to anyone who requests.
>
>Dennis

I would be grateful to receive a copy of the file.

Thanks very much

Don Penner

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Date:         Fri, 26 Dec 1997 14:51:30 -0500
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A more convenient place to get MiMH batteries at a bit lower mAh is Radio
Shack.  They have 1200 mAh MiMH pair of batteries selling for $10.  Another
place that sells lots of different kind of recharagable batteries and
chargers is www.realgoods.com.

>> This is a probably a frequently asked question, but the FAQ didn't really
>> have a good answer... Does anyone know of a particularly good brand of
>> rechargable batteries for the LX200? I just got a 14400 PCMCIA modem, and
>> when i plug it in, the battery meter drops several notches. I guess the
best
>> solution is to get some great batteries and an AC adapter and recharge
every
>> night.
>
>
>Times2 Tech has great NiMH batteries.  1350 mAh.  There are some benchmarks
up
>in the "Reviews" section of my site.  I've been meaning to add it to the
faq at
>my site, but I haven't done it yet.  Guess I better get on the ball.  :)
>--
>Visit the HP200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Fri, 26 Dec 1997 12:01:16 -0800
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Yi Wang wrote:

> A more convenient place to get MiMH batteries at a bit lower mAh is Radio
> Shack.  They have 1200 mAh MiMH pair of batteries selling for $10.  Another
> place that sells lots of different kind of recharagable batteries and
> chargers is www.realgoods.com.


Keep in mind, though, that one of the chief drawbacks of NiMH batteries is that
they discharge rapidly when not in use.  You can charge them up, put them in a
drawer, and a week later they're dead, even though they haven't been used.  The
batteries Times2 Tech sells don't have this problem, which was the main reason I
didn't use NiMH batteries before.
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David Sargeant wrote:

> Keep in mind, though, that one of the chief drawbacks of NiMH batteries is that
> they discharge rapidly when not in use.  You can charge them up, put them in a
> drawer, and a week later they're dead, even though they haven't been used.  The
> batteries Times2 Tech sells don't have this problem, which was the main reason I
> didn't use NiMH batteries before.
> --

Ok, what is different in the chemistry of the Times2 Tech NiMH batteries
from the standard NiMH?

Colin

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David Sargeant replying to Jim Carlson ("When you call up the Filer=
 program with a flashcard installed, it appears to re-read the card,=
 which takes a long time with a 20MB card...."), wrote: "...I've had=
 several cards, all greater than 20 megs, and on the two that've died=
 the first sign of impending doom was a much-inreased time between insertio=
n and when the machine would respond to keys..."

I have a 40 Mb Ram Card from MagicRam and I also noticed a little delay=
 (about 8 seconds) ONLY when I call up the Filer FOR THE FIRST TIME=
 after I switch on my Hp200 (or when I switch it on and Filer is the=
 current application); no one delay instead when I switch on the HP=
 with the card inserted and Filer is not the current application, a=
 less than 2 seconds delay when I move from other applications to Filer=
 after the first time. This has always happened, also the first time=
 I used the card (that I bought new from Magic Ram). My card seems to=
 work very well indeed and I am very happy for the purchase, but now=
 I am a little bit worried by what David has said about this problem.
Can anyone reassure me?

Thank You

Paolo

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I just tried the following on my times2tech modified 2x, 6meg machine:

1.  enter filer.
2.  power off.
3.  remove 15 meg ata card, stacked to ~37 meg.
4.  insert 8 meg ata card, unstacked.
5.  power on.

the delay is about 1.5 seconds while the display is chanced from the 1st card
to the second.  during this time a "please wait" message is displayed.  after
the 1.5 sec., full control is returned.

6.  power off.
7.  remove 8 meg card.
8.  insert 15 meg stacked card.
9.  power on.

the reaction is still the same.  1.5 sec. for control to return.  if it
matters, there is about 7.7 meg on the 8 meg card, and 24 meg of data on the
15 meg card.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Date:         Fri, 26 Dec 1997 20:45:32 -0300
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Subject:      Failed to detect modem?

HP>        Hi,

HP>        On Christmas day a new 14.4 Megahertz modem was first plugged
HP>into my 200LX.  The first attempt to connect to the host was successful
HP>from ccMail.  However as I reconnect it again with the same setting and
HP>configuration, the error says "Could not detect modem".  The same
HP>problem occurs in DataCom.  Instead when I do a connect from DataCom,
HP>the whole system hangs.

HP>        Same cable, same modem, same setup but failed to connect the
HP>second time.  Can someone shed a light on this?


HP>        Regards,
HP>        Catherine



Catherine, you should try the "Reset String"

Open Datacomm, and type "ATZ", this is the "Reset String", if this don't
work, look for the "Factory String", on the modem manual.

Martin
Marseb@giga.com.ar

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G'Day all,
here is a little program that I wrote to switch on/off the COM port in
DOS, good for use in batch files.  Some portions are no doubt copyright
the PAL group, thanks also to Harry Konstas who gave me the snippets to
swap between infrared & wire and to check the status of the port.  The
code compiled fine with Power C on my palmtop.

Disclaimer: this code worked for me no promises what it will do on your
box!

To show the current port status just type "lxser".  To switch the
current port on type "lxser on" and "lxser off" to switch it off.
"lxser on ir" will turn on the infrared port and "lxser on wire" will
switch on the wire port.

My flash disk took a dive and presently I don't have the funds to
replace it so I no longer have room for power C on my 200lx :-(

I wouldn't mind a copy of the code for any improvements any-one makes
to this program - plenty of room for improvement I am sure :-)

regards
Murray


#include "pal.h"
#include <dos.h>     /* required for SelectPort() function */

void SetSerialPort(int Mode);

/* --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        local prototypes
   -------------------------------------------------------------------- */
void ShowStatus();
void SelectPort(int Mode);

/* --------------------------------------------------------------------
                           Functions
   -------------------------------------------------------------------- */
void ShowStatus(){
   unsigned char x,s;

   s=inportb(0x22);     /* save index */
   outportb(0x22,0x51); /* select index 51h */
   x=inportb(0x23);     /* read port status */
   outportb(0x22,s);    /* restore index */

   if ( x == 0x92)
   printf("Serial Port off\n");
   else if ( x == 0xb2)
   printf("Serial Port (wire) on\n");
   else if ( x == 0x93)
   printf("Serial Port (infrared) on\n");
}


void SelectPort(int Mode){
   union REGS regs;
   struct SREGS segregs;

   regs.h.al = Mode;     /* Mode: 0=Wire 1=InfraRed */
   regs.h.ah = 0x49;
   int86x(0x15, &regs, &regs, &segregs);
}


void main(int argc, char *argvݨ){

    int Wire = 0;
    int InfraRed = 1;

    if ( argv1 == NULL)
       ShowStatus();

    if (! strcmp(strupr(argv1), "OFF")){
       SetSerialPort(SERIAL_OFF);
       ShowStatus();
    }
    else if (! strcmp(strupr(argv1), "ON")){
       if (! strcmp(strupr(argv2), "WIRE"))
          SelectPort(Wire);
       else if (! strcmp(strupr(argv2), "IR"))
          SelectPort(InfraRed);
       SetSerialPort(SERIAL_ON);
       ShowStatus();
    }
}


/*end code*/

--
Murray Barton                     Perth, Western Australia
muzza@iinet.net.au                http://www.iinet.net.au/~muzza/
When a man despoils a work of art we call him a vandal; when he despoils
a work of nature we call him a developer. - Joseph Wood Krutch

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Date:         Fri, 26 Dec 1997 20:44:27 EST
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    I just purchased a 128MB Flash card from PreTec Electronics (arrived
today, $952).  My business program is about ready to be upgraded and the size
will possibly quadruple.  I have a 2mb 100lx now and have purchsed a 200lx
from Thaddeus Computing (so when one breaks and needs repair I can send the
other and still work on a computer in the field).
    I have been using a HP 20MB card (stacked with Stacker 3.0 and Stacker 4.0
running on the main computer atmy office/home).  I use a Thin Dard Drive from
Data Book to upload and download to the 20MB card.  This system has worked
well for me.
     I inserted the 129 MB card in the 100 lx straight out of the box and it
recognized it.  I have stacked the card with Stacker 3.0 (using stacpalm) and
the 100 LX recognizes the card.  The card reader, however, doesn't.  I get the
infamous "not reading drive E: abort, retry, fail message.  I did try
formating the card while in the card drive and get a message "card not
supported."
     Do I need to call Data Book?  Pretec?  Do I need a different driver?
This is Friday night and I would like to take the time this weekend to get it
running if I can.  Anyone have any ideas.
     And, yes, so far, you can add Pretec and its 128 MB card to the list of
cards that work... but I haven't given it a complete test run yet and don't
have it actually working in the 100 lx.
      Thanks for any help.
       Jean F. Feldman, DVM
       Hamburg, NY

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Hi Jean,

        Two questions.  How do I get in touch with the folks that sold you your
128 meg card?  My brother is a Vet.  Any thoughts on software or
applications for the equine end of his practice?
        I am looking forward to the answers to your HPLX list questions as I
have an HP100LX/HP 20meg card.  I have also just ordered a 8 meg double
speed HP200LX from The Palmtop Shop.  I paid $959 for my 20 meg card
when they first came out.  Can't imagine a 128 meg card for $952!
        Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Colin Thompson

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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 18:03:36 -0800
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Greetings,

        My humble apologies to the list members.  Apparently I hit the wrong
button on my browser.  It wis not my intention to take the entire list's
bandwitdh with the Vet software inquirey.  Perhaps I need a DOS web
browser!

Colin Thompson

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> I have an AWK script that is quite successful (I have lost at least one
> line for some reason and have to assume there are problems in other
> places) in converting the special codes to ASCII: the end result is
> 28Mb.
That is absolutely *MASSIVE*! But what an extensive dictionary!!
Just think: a 40MB card, and you have an incredibly compact dictionary!

Also, the Gutenburg files aren't always complete... perhaps that line
was already lost?

> I expect one day to finish a C version (the AWK script is piped through
> a formatting filter taking an awful long time even on a Pentium Pro).
I was wondering when you were going to say that... an easy suggestion:
perl is a superset of awk (I beleive), and perl is compiled. Therefore
it should run *heaps*1 faster; and you shouldn't have to change it.

I've really got to get a 40 MB card!!

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1 heaps: Aust collq; much

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Could someone point me to a resource/FAQ for memory cards?

I'm looking at
        http://www.pdapage.com/HPpalm.htm
Which seems to give pretty good prices for cards. But these terms?
        4MB SRAM Memory Card                    $288.00
            
        40MB ATA Flash Single Density           $234.00
               
        Double Flash+ 40M                       $449.00
         
IE all the terms but the capacity and price!

        THANKS!!


I've really got to get that dictionary! A 28MB (The Wealth of Nations
is about 1.5MB!), weighing 300g? You gotta be kidding!

And I need to get Vim back on my palmtop, too.

-- Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
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Having somewhat tamed Chinese on the HP200LX, I tried something
additional over the holidays. I have an old old shareware drafting
program. It seems to load and run on the HP200LX. The name is
PC-Draft-Cad. I first saw a shareware version on C-serve many years ago
and bought a registered copy. It runs on the CGA display of the HP and
doesn't require a mouse. However the program author reccomends a mouse.

Has anyone used a mouse on the HP200LX? What does it do to battery life?

The only contact that I have for the writer is "Natural Software" 19
South Fifth Street., St. Charles, Il 60174. Phone (708) 377-7320.

If anyone is having trouble with the Chinese, send me a note. Happy
holiday.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 14:35:34 +1100
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> Could someone point me to a resource/FAQ for memory cards?
        ftp://ftp.cc.monash.edu.au/pub/palmtop/100lxfaq.txt

        ~Subject: 13. PCMCIA Cards
Q: What's the difference between flash memory and SRAM?
A: SRAM is fast, expensive, requires battery back-up, doesn't take
much power to use.  Flash memory is cheaper per megabyte, available in
larger sizes, will hold data forever without power, very slow for
writing (on the order of the speed of a floppy disk), requires
significant power for writing, and will eventually wear out when
written to many times (though some flash cards have a lifetime
guarantee, and nobody has yet posted that their flash card wore out).

>         4MB SRAM Memory Card                  $288.00
>             
>         40MB ATA Flash Single Density         $234.00
>                
>         Double Flash+ 40M                     $449.00
>          

So, SRAM is like primary internal memory; and FLASH is secondary storage.
...and ATA flash is Sundisk-style (whatever that means...)

Hmmmm... I might guess that SINGLE and DOUBLE density are to do with
built-in compression... but then why the price differential? ie
$234.00 vs. $449.00?


I seems best to get an internal upgrade ($99 for 4 MB) instead of an SRAM
card; and get a big - say 20MB or 40MB - FLASH card for massive storage.
        ...you could reuse the card if ever an upgrade path...
If you accept it's slow secondary storage, double-stacking it shouldn't
worry you - just make it slower. Though impact dictonary look-up?



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ANOTHER memory question! Just what is EMS, and how well does it work
on the palmtop?


Q: Is there an EMS driver?
A: Yes, EMM100.EE, available on eddie.  It uses a paging file on C:
and supports EMS 4.0 almost completely.

I no nothing about EMS... does it enable you to run programs needing
more than 640K?


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Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 03:38:33 +0000
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On 1997-12-26 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >> This is a probably a frequently asked question, but the FAQ
   >>didn't really  have a good answer... Does anyone know of a
   >>particularly good brand of  rechargable batteries for the LX200? I
   >>just got a 14400 PCMCIA modem, and  when i plug it in, the battery
   >>meter drops several notches. I guess the best  solution is to get
   >>some great batteries and an AC adapter and recharge every  night.

   >Times2 Tech has great NiMH batteries.  1350 mAh.  There are some
   >benchmarks up in the "Reviews" section of my site.

You may also want to take stock of the 14.4 modem you're using. There's
quite a variation in the power consumption rates for various brands and
my take on it was that while many modems will work, only a few are
power-miserly enough to use on the LX with some abandon. I believe the
card socket is rated to handle 150ma.

My first 14.4 was the ATT Keep In Touch and it was rated around 165ma.
It worked, but also drew a "low battery" warning and sucked the batteries
dry FAST. My current modem is the MegaHertz XJ3144 which I had heard was
about 130ma, and it runs for at least an hour on rechargeables with nary
a complaint.

The point is only that you should keep your eyes open for a low-power
modem which is a solution in conjunction with finding good rechargeables.

- Longden

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In a message dated 97-12-26 22:15:52 EST, you write:

<< Having somewhat tamed Chinese on the HP200LX, I tried something
 additional over the holidays. I have an old old shareware drafting
 program. It seems to load and run on the HP200LX. The name is
 PC-Draft-Cad. I first saw a shareware version on C-serve many years ago
 and bought a registered copy. It runs on the CGA display of the HP and
 doesn't require a mouse. However the program author reccomends a mouse.

 The only contact that I have for the writer is "Natural Software" 19
 South Fifth Street., St. Charles, Il 60174. Phone (708) 377-7320. >>

I did some research and found the maker of this program.  It looks good and I
intend to follow up on it.    Seems it will export to an AutoCAD .DXF file.

 <A HREF="http://home.earthlink.net/~naturalsoft/homemsie.htm">Natural
Software</A>

The cost is $65.00

Thanks for the tip!

Cathy

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Date:         Fri, 26 Dec 1997 20:59:16 -0800
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Colin Thompson wrote:

> Ok, what is different in the chemistry of the Times2 Tech NiMH batteries
> from the standard NiMH?

I'm not certain, but I believe it has something to do with the chemicals in the Times2
Tech batteries being in a gel form which prevents charge dissipation.
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Paolo Piovano wrote:

> I have a 40 Mb Ram Card from MagicRam and I also noticed a little delay (about 8 seconds) ONLY when I call up the Filer FOR THE FIRST TIME after I switch on my Hp200 (or when I switch it on and Filer is the current application); no one delay

<snip>

> Can anyone reassure me?


Yes.  The Filer delay is normal.  It's just gathering statistics about the drive.  It's the delay that pauses the whole computer, so it won't respond to keystrokes, that you have to worry about.  This one would only occur when you insert the card if the machine is on, or when you turn on the machine with a card in it.
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Can anyone tell me what Turbocpu is and where it is available?

Brian
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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 00:49:05 -0600
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The drivers that come with Times2Tech's speed upgrade specifically state
that they are not compatible with the software speed-up programs.  I don't
know about the freeware drivers.

I used to run Robert Williams, MD's turbo program, available at:
ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/hp95lx/hp100lx/turbo.zip
and it made a measurable difference (maybe 15%?) when I timed the FIND
function in the database program.  Mack removed it after doing the speed
upgrade.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
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This is my first messagge on the list. I live in Italy, I have an HP100lx 1 mb (since 1993) with an explxm 8 mb. To back up my hp on desktop I use an Simple tech. pcmcia drive reader/writer. At moment Exp drivers for win 95 aren't yet available, so I must read my flash memory in dos. For e-mail I use Accis 4.0 but even if is nice to see, it seem to be slow of old version during download.
Marcello Bernabucci

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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 10:29:49 +1300
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Longden,

 > Given that I haven't updated the currency figures for several months and
 > the recent turmoil in the Asian markets, I'd recompute the number with more
 > current exchange values before making any other conclusions about the pricing.

The currency converter that I wrote may help you to have :
  - Automatic daily update of your choice of currencies
  - 3 letter ISO code of all major currencies

Just have a look at the super site and make a search on "currency".

And all this is freeware.

Regards,

 \/
 /ves

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Subject:      Re: Flashcards on LX palmtops > > Does anybody have a summary of
              which flash cards work on > > the 95/100/200 palmtops?

 > I believe only SRAM works on HP95's.  Was told so by rep at www.alix.com
 > who sells SRAM and flash mem.  Their SRAM worked seamlessly on my HP95
 > but was expensive per MB.

Dear All,

I have been using a Sundisk (now Sandisk) 10MB flash card model SDPL5-10 in a
HP95LX for years. It needs a driver that was supplied with the card. This
card works also perfectly in the 100LX/200LX.

Regards,

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I was wondering if there exists an lxdir-like program for Windows NT?
What I mean by lxdir-like is that this is a command line program which
allows to do basic operations such as a DIR listing, copy local/remote
files, delete files BY COMMUNICATING WITH the lx file manager?

Ideally, I'd like this in source form to be able to integrate this
into a perl-win32 application.

Failing that does anyone know of example code for NT/rs-232 port
communications?

Thanks for any help,
Mike.


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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 15:21:43 +0100
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Does anyone has tried to install latex2e on a hp palmtop?
I hope you'll answer... :)

        Ciao
                Raffaele Gaioni

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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 15:43:07 +0100
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On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> ANOTHER memory question! Just what is EMS, and how well does it work
> on the palmtop?

EMS is short for Expanded memory, it adds more memory (abouve 1MB) to your
system in small chunks. It was designed before protected mode became
availiable (Plugin boards). For backwards compatibility, newer verisons of
DOS include EMM386, which emulates EMM, using extended memory.

> Q: Is there an EMS driver?
> A: Yes, EMM100.EE, available on eddie.  It uses a paging file on C:
> and supports EMS 4.0 almost completely.

I couldn't find this, but I presume it has been replaced with emm200
(found in /NEW)

> I no nothing about EMS... does it enable you to run programs needing
> more than 640K?

Some programs, yes. Word Perfect for instance, uses the extra memory, as
does Lotus 123 (DOS version). The built-in apps do not benefit from the
extra memory, however. Unless a program states that it supports EMS, it
will not benifit from it. Also, it will not allow you to run programs that
require 286/386 protected mode programs (although you probably knew this
already)

If you use TSRs, you might be able to save a little conventional memory by
loading some of the drivers into EMS. Stacker supports this for instance.
EMS is not the same as High Memory on a new PC, though, since the driver
specifically has to support EMS. (pretty much any driver can be loaded
into High Mem on a modern PC)  EMS is also faster than diskswapping, so
any program that supports both (the ones that use diskswapping usually
support ems as well) will be faster. MaxDos and DesqView are to such
programs.

There is another EMS driver, but it is not freeware and only availiale to
Times2Tech costumers.
AFAIK the freeware EMS driver doesn't work with 4MB upgraded units (and
that's what I have boo hoo :-(

(This should be correct, otherwise I'm sure I'll be corrected :-).  I did
try and find a computer glossary (using Yahoo!), but it wasn't helpful at
all.)

Regards,

Laust
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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 10:25:09 -0700
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Hi all -

Now that the weather is cooler, and drier, I notice a buildup of static
electricity which usually discharges when I get out of my car.

Do I have to worry about static electricity and the palmtop?  What could the
consequences be if I am holding the palmtop in my hand as it discharges to
my car door?

Season's Greetings!


Brian Girling
Travel Ventures Canada Inc.     http://home.ica.net/~girling/ventures

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It happened that I poured sugar containing liquid over the
keyboard. Now, the "Y"-key makes a noise every time I press it.
The noise disappeares when I press the button several times (50-70
times) but it is there again after a few minutes...

Can anyone help ?

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Grettings to you all, I'm in a fix and perhaps someone in this forum can
help me solve it. Because of my job I will be goin to Madrid, Spain and
from there I will be traveling back and forth between Rio de Janeiro
(Brasil),  Montevideo (Uruguay) and Madrid. The thing is, what do I need to
do and to buy, in order to keep in contact with my family using the hp 200
lx and internet mail?. Also; maybe someone out there is aware of places
and/or phone number from where one can access the net either very cheap!!!!
:-) or free (much better:-)))) in these three countries. If by mistake I'm
sending the message the wrong place,  please bear with me and forgive my
ignorance.
Thank you all and happy new year


I will fear no evil

Arturo Galindo

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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 09:37:05 -0800
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David Sargeant wrote:
>
> Yi Wang wrote:
>
> > A more convenient place to get MiMH batteries at a bit lower mAh is Radio
> > Shack.  They have 1200 mAh MiMH pair of batteries selling for $10.  Another
> > place that sells lots of different kind of recharagable batteries and
> > chargers is www.realgoods.com.
>
> Keep in mind, though, that one of the chief drawbacks of NiMH batteries is that
> they discharge rapidly when not in use.  You can charge them up, put them in a
> drawer, and a week later they're dead, even though they haven't been used.  The
> batteries Times2 Tech sells don't have this problem, which was the main reason I
> didn't use NiMH batteries before.
> --
> Visit the HP200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp
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I use D cells in my HP95.  Well, maybe not IN my HP95.  The HP95 draws
200 ma when the serial port is on for multi-day datalogging.  I clip a
4-cell D battery holder to the AA cell springs, and wire
series/parallel.  This arrangement will last about 4 days until the HP95
balks and turns off.  Two D cells, with double the draw rate, won't
quite last 2 days.  1/5 amp seems a lot for the serial port on the HP95
since this port is a two-wire and doesn't supply any power to the port.

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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 09:52:36 -0800
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> Could someone point me to a resource/FAQ for memory cards?
>
> I'm looking at
>         http://www.pdapage.com/HPpalm.htm
> Which seems to give pretty good prices for cards. But these terms?
>         4MB SRAM Memory Card                    $288.00
>             
>         40MB ATA Flash Single Density           $234.00
>                
>         Double Flash+ 40M                       $449.00
>          
> IE all the terms but the capacity and price!
>
>         THANKS!!
>
> I've really got to get that dictionary! A 28MB (The Wealth of Nations
> is about 1.5MB!), weighing 300g? You gotta be kidding!
>
> And I need to get Vim back on my palmtop, too.
>
> -- Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
> http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
>      "MML analysis and composition of nursery rhyme melodies."
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I accidentally deleted a recent message on using Sandisk 10MB flash
memory on an HP95.  Would whoever posted that message please re-post.  I
have accessed the Sandisk website but am not sure exactly which product
can be used in the HP95.

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>> I have an AWK script that is quite successful (I have lost at least on=
e
>> line for some reason and have to assume there are problems in other
>> places) in converting the special codes to ASCII: the end result is
>> 28Mb.
>That is absolutely *MASSIVE*! But what an extensive dictionary!!
>Just think: a 40MB card, and you have an incredibly compact dictionary!>=
>
>
>Also, the Gutenburg files aren't always complete... perhaps that line
>was already lost?

No, I checked the original.
There are a few errors in the dictionary in the form of misspelled
codes. I have not corrected these.

I did not know that the Perl compiler was finished. My Linux and DOS
versions are interpreters.

Speed is not really an issue as the conversion is something you only do
once in your lifetime.

Anyhow: the codes in the dictionary are for typesetting and the script
generally just zap them. The AWK script is therefore mainly a number of
gsub()'s which simply replaces one string with another. Non-programmers
will not have any difficulty in changing the script.

It is called "The Gutenberg Webster's Unabridged Dictionary" (September
1996), is free of charge and can be found at www.gutenberg.com as

pgwtwxxx.xxx, pgwsxxxx.xxx, pgwrxxxx.xxx, pgwpqxxx.xxx, pgwmoxxx.xxx,
pgwilxxx.xxx, pgwfhxxx.xxx, pgwdexxx.xxx, pgwcxxxx.xxx, pgwabxxx.xxx

in both zipped and text format. The AWK script grinds for about 20-25
mins per 2.5Mb on a Pentium Pro under DOS. Under Linux it would be
much faster.

There is also a single very large file (30-40Mb) which must be the HTML
version. I know nothing about it.

But, honestly, how many people need such a large dictionary in their
shirt pocket (apart from English teachers and homeless people?)?
Gutenberg's Roget Thesaurus or the American Heritage Dictionary must
cover any normal needs!

Now, Webster take up a rude amount of space. People having a really
offensive amount of free space on their LX (i.e. 7 40Mb flash cards)
could consider the Gutenberg encyclopedia (I think only volume 1 is
finished, but imagine: you could be THE authority on any subject
beginning with A!). This is what I know about it:

Jan 1995 The Project Gutenberg Encyclopedia Volume 1 of 28 pge0110x.xxx=

-rwxr--r--  1 hart     8913645 Dec 10  1994 pge0110.rtf
-rwxr--r--  1 hart     8441343 Dec 11  1994 pge0112.txt

Jorgen

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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 12:18:48 -0500
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Hi everyone, and Happy Holidays to you all.

My wife bought me the NSW 4 meg upgrade board (the price was too good to
pass up) for my 1 meg 200lx for Christmas.  My 200LX had the memory board
connector already on the motherboard.  From reading the directions with the
upgrade, I got the impression that some motherboards don't have the
connector installed at the factory and you have to solder it in yourself.
Since my unit had the connector already, the installation took all of 10
min. and I love it.

I stacked the C drive to 10 meg which leaves 9.3 meg for storage. Between
that and my stacked flashcard, I can keep the programs I want including the
bible data files for Hisword.



Best Regards,
Owen Samuelson
Amateur Radio Call: KU4ET
HP200LX page: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 13:22:47 -0500
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At 03:49 12/27/97 -0500, you wrote:
>This is my first messagge on the list. I live in Italy, I have an HP100lx
1 mb (since 1993) with an explxm 8 mb. To back up my hp on desktop I use an
Simple tech. pcmcia drive reader/writer. At moment Exp drivers for win 95
aren't yet available, so I must read my flash memory in dos. For e-mail I
use Accis 4.0 but even if is nice to see, it seem to be slow of old version
during download.
>Marcello Bernabucci
>
Welcome to the list Marcello,
Glad to have you here.  If you have any questions just ask the list
members, we're glad to help.


Best Regards,
Owen Samuelson
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HP200LX page: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 20:47:30 +0100
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On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, Jorgen Dybdahl wrote:

several things snipped

> >> I have an AWK script that is quite successful (I have lost at least one
> >> line for some reason and have to assume there are problems in other
> >> places) in converting the special codes to ASCII: the end result is
> >> 28Mb.
> >That is absolutely *MASSIVE*! But what an extensive dictionary!!
> >Just think: a 40MB card, and you have an incredibly compact dictionary!>>

I'm curious. How recent is this dictionary? (Roget's is from 1911).

> It is called "The Gutenberg Webster's Unabridged Dictionary" (September
> 1996), is free of charge and can be found at www.gutenberg.com as

gutenberg.com is "Gutenberg Internet Services Inc.", www.gutenberg.net (or
.org) are related to the project.

> in both zipped and text format. The AWK script grinds for about 20-25
> mins per 2.5Mb on a Pentium Pro under DOS. Under Linux it would be
> much faster.

25 mins? that is kinda slow. Don't try this on your LX, it'll run forever
:-)

> There is also a single very large file (30-40Mb) which must be the HTML
> version. I know nothing about it.

Yup, it is.

> But, honestly, how many people need such a large dictionary in their
> shirt pocket (apart from English teachers and homeless people?)?
> Gutenberg's Roget Thesaurus or the American Heritage Dictionary must
> cover any normal needs!
>
Is AHD free as well or is it commercial?

> Now, Webster take up a rude amount of space. People having a really
> offensive amount of free space on their LX (i.e. 7 40Mb flash cards)
> could consider the Gutenberg encyclopedia (I think only volume 1 is
> finished, but imagine: you could be THE authority on any subject
> beginning with A!). This is what I know about it:

What we really need is some kind of compression library and a
search/viewing utility. Then you could have a compressed version on your
HP and it would unpack the relevant pages. This would work for other texts
as well. (Obviously, compression wouldn't be as good as pkzip, because of
speed limitations (It's got to be fast), but it would still be smaller
than the uncompressed version.) Anyone want to make such a program?

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 16:06:33 -0500
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Hello,

The time has come to part with my trusty 100LX. The folks at One Stop
Palmtop Shop have offered me $150 on a trade-in. If anyone is interested
they can have it for the same price. The only flaws with it are the cover
latch stopped latching (I inserted a small piece of black adhesive foam
tape to restore its spring) and it is missing 1 rubber foot. It lives in a
zippered leather case (included). All the manuals and original box are
included.

I am also selling the following:
2 - HP AC adapters (#F1011A) $25 each
HP Connectivity Pack (#F1021A)
        This includes the HP serial cable, connectivity software on
        3.5 and 5.25 floppies, 4 adapters (printer, modem, computer
        and 100LX to 95LX) as well as the manuals.  $25
HP 5-mb Flash Card (#F1012A)
        This includes the Stacker software from HP  $100
Newton Keyboard and zippered carrying case
        This has the Apple cable replaced with a HP serial cable $100

Will sell as a whole for $400 and I'll pay shipping in the US or will sell
separately without shipping included.

Thanks,

Marc Maxwell

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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 15:49:32 -0600
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Hi all! I purchased Stacker 2.0 at a secondhand software shop here in
town today and was wondering if someone would be kind enough to help me
set it up on my 2MB 200LX. Any help would be greatly appreciated!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
http://www.bham.net/jcsd

    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 22:52:49 +0100
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Hi Frank,

I honestly bought intellisync from PUMA 2 weeks ago and I  am very
statisfied with the product until now.

I am synchronizing  Schedule+ 7.0 with the HP200LX phonebook,
appointments and to do list and it is working excellent.

I guess if some things are coming in the wrong places you have it
strangly configured ( in the setup you can tell which field of the
HP200LX must be synchronized with which field of schedule+) However the
default settings are pretty OK to me.

You do get strange results if you do not have Schedule+ open when
synchronizing.

Hope you will get it working......

Peter


Frank G. Pratt wrote:

> Greetings:
>
>      This is my first visit to HPLX-l, so if I make any mistakes,
> please
> excuse and correct me.
>
>     I am using (or trying to use) Intellisync with my HP-200LX and not
>
> getting good results. The version of Intellisync for the Palm Pilot
> (Yeah, I've got one of those too. It was a gift, honest.)
>
>     Anyway, the Intellisync version for the HP seems to put things in
> the wrong places, adds entries when it shouldn't and a myriad of other
>
> problems.
>
>     Has anybody out there used this combination with good results.
>
>     Oh, yes, I'm syncing to Daytimer-98 in both cases, and my address
> book has both business and personal entries in it. I have noted that
> Puma Software in not going to support Intellisync to HPs after the LX.
>
> Maybe that should tell me something.
>
>     If anybody can help, it will be greatly appreciated. If not, I
> guess
> that I'll have to use the PalmPilot.
>
>     Frank
>
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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 22:57:14 +0100
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Hi Waldemar,

You are 100% right!

I am using a complete customer dbase 6500 addresses about 6,5 Mbytes of
data with my HP200LX
I am running DBASE4 on my SANDISK 10Mbyte Flashcard.

The only disadvantage is that you have to terminate all tasks (with
..&, Menu,A, T) to get enough free DOS memory. But it give me my
complete customer base when I am travelling.

Peter


Waldemar Kowalski wrote:

> I have a friend who collects books, and needs to keep track of 10,000
> books.
> He'd like to do it on his LX, but his IS guys tell him that our HPs
> can't
> sort on more than 1000 or so entries/records in a database. I've
> mentioned
> using dBASE III, but he replied that they were adamant on having
> exhausted
> all possibilities.
>
> Anyone have some contrary info? How do we keep track of his books?
>
> TIA!
>
> wally
>
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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 14:31:15 -0800
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peter wrote:

> I am using a complete customer dbase 6500 addresses about 6,5 Mbytes of
> data with my HP200LX
> I am running DBASE4 on my SANDISK 10Mbyte Flashcard.
> The only disadvantage is that you have to terminate all tasks (with
> ..&, Menu,A, T) to get enough free DOS memory. But it give me my
> complete customer base when I am travelling.


This is the kind of thing Software Carousel is good for.  You could run
dBase IV in a work area and still have the System Manager open in another.
Speaking of which: does anybody know who sells Software Carousel now, and
what the phone number is?  I need to update the FAQ and my reviews page.
--
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Date:         Sun, 28 Dec 1997 09:30:56 +1100
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> Does anyone has tried to install latex2e on a hp palmtop?
> I hope you'll answer... :)

Someone has got at least TeX; not me, but I hope they'll answer, too.

They said it runs only slightly slower than a 486...! Presumably LaTeX2e
would be similar. BTW, installing TeX should be pretty straightforward...
but I haven't ever tried installing LaTeX2e

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Thanks for the detailed info, Laust!

> EMS is also faster than diskswapping, so
> any program that supports both (the ones that use diskswapping usually
> support ems as well) will be faster. MaxDos and DesqView are to such
> programs.

Hmmm... is diskswapping with the hplx's RAM disk as fast as EMS, which
is using the same storage device? Or is it some other factor which
makes it faster?

I don't suppose you'd think that DesqView might be able to do proper
background execution, if it had this extra memory to play with?


> There is another EMS driver, but it is not freeware and only availiale to
> Times2Tech costumers.
> AFAIK the freeware EMS driver doesn't work with 4MB upgraded units (and
> that's what I have boo hoo :-(
Me too boo hoo hoo



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Subject:      Installing NSW Memory board very easy.

HP>Hi everyone, and Happy Holidays to you all.

HP>My wife bought me the NSW 4 meg upgrade board (the price was too good to
HP>pass up) for my 1 meg 200lx for Christmas.  My 200LX had the memory board
HP>connector already on the motherboard.  From reading the directions with the
HP>upgrade, I got the impression that some motherboards don't have the
HP>connector installed at the factory and you have to solder it in yourself.
HP>Since my unit had the connector already, the installation took all of 10
HP>min. and I love it.

HP>I stacked the C drive to 10 meg which leaves 9.3 meg for storage. Between
HP>that and my stacked flashcard, I can keep the programs I want including the
HP>bible data files for Hisword.



HP>Best Regards,
HP>Owen Samuelson
HP>Amateur Radio Call: KU4ET
HP>HP200LX page: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html



   Dear Owen...


   Do you know what type of 200's could "support" this upgrade ?
   How much did you paid for the upgrade ?

   Best Regards,

   Martin
   Marseb@giga.com.ar

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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 14:49:52 -0800
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> Hmmm... is diskswapping with the hplx's RAM disk as fast as EMS, which
> is using the same storage device? Or is it some other factor which
> makes it faster?

No, EMS is still faster on the 200LX, even though it's the same memory.  I'm
not sure why.  But Software Carousel works faster if configured with EMS than
with a disk file.


> I don't suppose you'd think that DesqView might be able to do proper
> background execution, if it had this extra memory to play with?

Probably not; Desqview also needs processing time to run things in the
background.  And besides that, Desqview eats up so much conventional memory
(~150K or so) that it's hard to get much to run.  The System Manager would
load, but not with any TSR's loaded before it.  Besides all this, Desqview
doesn't work with the EMS the 200LX provides.  It freezes if you try to load it
after loading one of the EMS drivers.


> > AFAIK the freeware EMS driver doesn't work with 4MB upgraded units (and
> > that's what I have boo hoo :-(
> Me too boo hoo hoo


There may be a way to get it to work; after all, it has been modified to work
with the newer 2MB units and the 4MB unit.  But how to do it is beyond me.  :)
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Martin Sebastian wrote:

> HP>My wife bought me the NSW 4 meg upgrade board (the price was too good to
> HP>pass up) for my 1 meg 200lx for Christmas.  My 200LX had the memory board
> HP>connector already on the motherboard.  From reading the directions with the
> HP>upgrade, I got the impression that some motherboards don't have the
> HP>connector installed at the factory and you have to solder it in yourself.
> HP>Since my unit had the connector already, the installation took all of 10
> HP>min. and I love it.

With regards to the connector: for the 2MB units, the older ones (from 1994 and
1995 and early 1996, I believe) have the connector already, with a board in it.
This is because they have 1MB on the motherboard and a 1MB expansion card.  The
newer ones have 2MB on board and no expansion board connector.  Thus, this must be
soldered in before the 4MB board can be installed.  The advantage here, of course,
is that you won't lose a 1MB card, so you can go to 6MB instead of 5MB like the
older 200LX's can.  ALL 200LX models can be upgraded to 8MB, though.



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> I did not know that the Perl compiler was finished.

Maybe our wires crossed: I understood that Perl worked by compiling
first, then running - every time. It looks like interpreting from
the outside, but is much much faster for larger files. But truly,
this is hearsay.

> The AWK script grinds for about 20-25 mins per 2.5Mb on a Pentium Pro
> under DOS. Under Linux it would be much faster.
Don't try this on your hplx, kids! (though with the RAM disk, it would
be faster than you'd guess...)


> >Just think: a 40MB card, and you have an incredibly compact dictionary!

> But, honestly, how many people need such a large dictionary in their
> shirt pocket (apart from English teachers and homeless people?)?
> Gutenberg's Roget Thesaurus or the American Heritage Dictionary must
> cover any normal needs!
The *ideal* gift for your favourite homeless English teacher...

I have never found a word in the Concise Oxford Dictionary that I didn't
know the meaning of already (I often don't know how to *spell* the
blighters, though). It just doesn't include the words I look up!*
("Concise:" that's the 1454 page one.)


I guess I missed the start of all this: how big is the American
Heritage Dictionary? Is it free? Where can I get it?

> Now, Webster take up a rude amount of space.

> People having a really offensive amount of free space on their LX
> (i.e. 7 40Mb flash cards) could consider the Gutenberg encyclopedia
> (I think only volume 1 is finished, but imagine: you could be THE
> authority on any subject beginning with A!).

That guy with the 2 GB drive should get this! The complete 28 volumes
won't even be half a gig! *easy* - only around 485 MB.

> Jan 1995 The Project Gutenberg Encyclopedia Volume 1 of 28 pge0110x.xxx
> -rwxr--r--  1 hart     8913645 Dec 10  1994 pge0110.rtf
> -rwxr--r--  1 hart     8441343 Dec 11  1994 pge0112.txt


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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > >Just think: a 40MB card, and you have an incredibly compact dictionary!
> The *ideal* gift for your favourite homeless English teacher...
> I guess I missed the start of all this: how big is the American
> Heritage Dictionary? Is it free? Where can I get it?

It's not free; there are also different versions.  I got a version that takes
up 14MB and includes, word for word, the entire text of the printed version--
pronunciation, word origins, everything.  But I don't use it.  I use the
Writer's Toolkit, which is a popup dictionary/thesaurus/encyclopedia/grammar
checker/quotation source/abbreviation expander in one package.  It takes up a
little over 7.1 megs when installed with everything.  (You can install the
components separately, depending on your available space.)  It's great; it has
most everything I've ever looked up.  There are two chief complaints I have
with it: it doesn't pop up over a graphics screen, limiting its usefulness with
the System Manager.  You can DO it, you just have to shell to a DOS text screen
first.  Secondly, it swaps to disk when you press the hotkey, before the window
pops up.  I'd like to find a way to configure it to swap to the C: drive
instead of A:, which would speed it up immensely (currently it takes 7-8
seconds to come up after pressing the hotkey) but I can't figure out how to
change it so it swaps somewhere besides the directory it's been installed in.


> > People having a really offensive amount of free space on their LX
> > (i.e. 7 40Mb flash cards) could consider the Gutenberg encyclopedia
> > (I think only volume 1 is finished, but imagine: you could be THE
> > authority on any subject beginning with A!).
> That guy with the 2 GB drive should get this! The complete 28 volumes
> won't even be half a gig! *easy* - only around 485 MB.


That shouldn't be too bad.  The 128MB Pretec card is already out.  Word on the
street is that there should be 256MB and 512MB cards out before the end of
1998...
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On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, David Sargeant wrote:

> Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> > Hmmm... is diskswapping with the hplx's RAM disk as fast as EMS, which
> > is using the same storage device? Or is it some other factor which
> > makes it faster?
>
> No, EMS is still faster on the 200LX, even though it's the same memory.  I'm
> not sure why.  But Software Carousel works faster if configured with EMS than
> with a disk file.

I guess EMM is faster because it goes _directly_ to the Hornet chip
instead of using DOS routines. AFAIK, the EMM driver writes directly to
the RAM chip, not to the mapped C drive. This has to make an improvement
in speed.

>
> > I don't suppose you'd think that DesqView might be able to do proper
> > background execution, if it had this extra memory to play with?
>
> Probably not; Desqview also needs processing time to run things in the
> background.  And besides that, Desqview eats up so much conventional memory
> (~150K or so) that it's hard to get much to run.  The System Manager would
> load, but not with any TSR's loaded before it.  Besides all this, Desqview
> doesn't work with the EMS the 200LX provides.  It freezes if you try to load it
> after loading one of the EMS drivers.
>
>
> > > AFAIK the freeware EMS driver doesn't work with 4MB upgraded units (and
> > > that's what I have boo hoo :-(
> > Me too boo hoo hoo
>
>
> There may be a way to get it to work; after all, it has been modified to work
> with the newer 2MB units and the 4MB unit.  But how to do it is beyond me.  :)

In my original post I meant the units upgraded with 4MB, that is the 6MB
units. I didn't make this very clear, though...

Regards,

Laust
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> HP>My wife bought me the NSW 4 meg upgrade board (the price was too good to
>
> With regards to the connector: for the 2MB units, the older ones
> (from 1994 and 1995 and early 1996, I believe) have the connector
> already, with a board in it.  This is because they have 1MB on the
> motherboard and a 1MB expansion card.  The newer ones have 2MB on
> board and no expansion board connector.  Thus, this must be soldered
> in before the 4MB board can be installed.  The advantage here, of
> course, is that you won't lose a 1MB card, so you can go to 6MB
> instead of 5MB like the older 200LX's can.

> ALL 200LX models can be upgraded to 8MB, though.
er, the guy offering the 4 MB said that factory 4MB hp200lx's had 2MB
mother and 2MB daughter boards - so you can only upgrade to 6MB by
replacing the daughterboard with a 4MB one.
So ... you must have ... Another Way... <etheral music> :)


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Maybe if I just visit this site, it will tell me...


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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> er, the guy offering the 4 MB said that factory 4MB hp200lx's had 2MB
> mother and 2MB daughter boards - so you can only upgrade to 6MB by
> replacing the daughterboard with a 4MB one.
> So ... you must have ... Another Way... <etheral music> :)

Oops, I forgot about the 4MB units.  Yes, they're easy to upgrade; they have 2MB
on board and a 2MB card.  So you lose 2MB in the trade-up.  The BEST way to go to
get 6MB is to get a new 2MB unit.  The board connector will have to be soldered
on, but then you'll have 6MB without losing any.


> Maybe if I just visit this site, it will tell me...


I don't think I have any info on the site about the memory upgrades... but I'm
probably wrong.  I have some in the FAQ, but I don't know if I go into detail.
If not, I'll have to remedy that... :)
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> > > >Just think: a 40MB card, and you have an incredibly compact dictionary!
> > *The* ideal gift for your favourite homeless English teacher...
> > how big is the American Heritage Dictionary?
>
> But I don't use it.  I use the
> Writer's Toolkit, which is a popup dictionary/thesaurus/encyclopedia/
> grammar checker/quotation source/abbreviation expander in one package.
> It takes up a little over 7.1 megs when installed with everything.  (You
> can install the components separately, depending on your available space.)
> It's great; it has most everything I've ever looked up.

And it's not free, either? :(


> Secondly, it swaps to disk when you press the hotkey, before
> the window pops up.  I'd like to find a way to configure it to swap
> to the C: drive instead of A:, which would speed it up immensely
> (currently it takes 7-8 seconds to come up after pressing the hotkey)
> but I can't figure out how to change it so it swaps somewhere besides
> the directory it's been installed in.
You might like to try the "Rudi Manoeuvre*" - do a grep on the .exe
for swapfile, if you know the name! Then figure out a way to change it
to C:\swapf (perhaps losing some chars)


* We actually have the Concise Oxford installed on the unix system I'm
using now. It's great; but I could not get the correct spelling of
"manoeuvre" out of it. It *is* a weird looking word - I think I must
never have seen it written down before... I had to look it up in
the paper version - took only a few seconds to browse for it. You
can't do this easily on a computer...OTOH, this dictionary is
optimised for finding definitions, not spelling words...


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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> And it's not free, either? :(

Unfortunately not.  It was being sold by Surplus Direct for a while, but I haven't
seen it for a long time.


> You might like to try the "Rudi Manoeuvre*" - do a grep on the .exe
> for swapfile, if you know the name! Then figure out a way to change it
> to C:\swapf (perhaps losing some chars)

If I only knew the name... :)


> * We actually have the Concise Oxford installed on the unix system I'm
> using now. It's great; but I could not get the correct spelling of
> "manoeuvre" out of it. It *is* a weird looking word - I think I must
> never have seen it written down before... I had to look it up in
> the paper version - took only a few seconds to browse for it. You
> can't do this easily on a computer...OTOH, this dictionary is
> optimised for finding definitions, not spelling words...


That's true.  That's why it's handy to have a dictionary with a "sounds-like"
search option.  I believe JORJ had this option... but I'm not sure what other
dictonaries do.  I'll check.
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At 03:43 PM 12/27/97 +0100, you wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

>


EMS is short for Expanded memory, it adds more memory (abouve 1MB) to
your

system in small chunks. It was designed before protected mode became

availiable (Plugin boards). For backwards compatibility, newer verisons
of

DOS include EMM386, which emulates <bigger>EMM,</bigger> using extended
memory.

<<


Do you mean that EMM386 emulstes EMS?  You haven't explained what

EMM is.




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On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, Philip Seyer wrote:

> At 03:43 PM 12/27/97 +0100, you wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> >
>
snip
>
> Do you mean that EMM386 emulstes EMS?

Yes, it does. A quote from MS-DOS 6.22's help system:

"EMM386 uses extended memory to simulate expanded memory for programs that
can use expanded memory"

emulate/simulate - it is pretty much the same.

> You haven't explained what EMM is.

I gave examples of how EMM is used. The reason I didn't give a technical
description of what EMM is, is that I'm not 100% certain myself, and I
don't want to misinform anyone. I look around (in a few books and on the
net)  for a good description, but didn't find any. That is why my
description was somewhat non-technical.

Regards,

Laust

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> On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, Philip Seyer wrote:
>
> > You haven't explained what EMM is.
>
> I gave examples of how EMM is used. The reason I didn't give a technical
> description of what EMM is, is that I'm not 100% certain myself, and I
> don't want to misinform anyone. I look around (in a few books and on the
> net)  for a good description, but didn't find any.
Yeah! Whenever I begin looking into EMM, I quickly stop.


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          rudi <chen@get.uni-paderborn.de>, longden <lloo@world.northgrum.com>,
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Here is our goal: you say
        diary
and you are placed at the end of the file, just after the day's date.


OK for those who came in late:
automatically date stamping a file you edit. The problem: the DOS
date command wants a <CR>. The solution: you pipe it a file containing
a <CR>, or you do this:

        echo. | date

in calvin:

        :r !echo. | date
which reads in the output of the command following !

BUT!! If you use the incredibly cool and useful wced (filename completion
par excellence), this doesn't work. I don't know why. But you can do this:

        date &
The ampersand supplies a &



*OR* you can write a little C program that does the same thing (if you
discover the & trick too late :-) ). ANd choose the format you want etc.
Here is an example:

d.c, Turbo C++ (automatically includes stdio.h, I guess)
        (WARNING: may be typos!)
------
#include <dos.h>

int main()
{
struct  date    date;           //in dos.h
        getdate(&date);
        printf("===\ni%/%i/%i\n",       //Aussi format
                (int) date.da_day,              //cast, because it's a char
                (int) date.da_mon,              //ditto
                date.da_year);
        return(1);                              //I know, too much time on clc
}



Now, to get ridiculously cool, you invoke this with a .bat file:
diary.bat
------------
        vi "+$|r !d|$" c:\_dat\diary.doc

Right, this is for a diary:
        + tells calvin colon commands follow
        The first $ moves to the end of file;
        the | separates commands
        the r !d invokes the above C program - the surrounding quotes
                are to hide the space from the command line interpretor,
                which would otherwise allocate it as another argument.
        $ leaves us right at the end of the file, after the date.

HOWEVER! We must account for a little bug in Calvin: although the commands
in the line are executed correctly (ie $, r, $), too much of the argument
is sent to DOS! That is, instead of just "d", "d|$" is sent. To cope
with this, we use an unorthogonal hack: we make a $.bat which is just the
DOS command more. This merely pipes on the stdin to stdout, unaffected. IE

$.bat
-------
more

So it doesn't matter that the command is d|$    !


But this is now really nice! You say:
        diary
and you are placed at the end of the file, just after the day's date!
(Of course, you shouldn't write your diary more than once a day...)


Oh, and seasons greetings!
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Quinton,
   Thanks for your reply.  I'll try and answer questions one by one.
"Is the 20MB card stacked with stacpalm?
Did the 129MB card work in the card reader before you stacked?"
   Yes, I stacked the card with stacpalm (the same stacpalm that came with the
HP 20MB card and was used to stack it.... although, I can't vouch that it was
exactly the same process... it's been a long time between cards.  And, no, I
wasn't clever enough to pop the card in the reader before I tried it in the
100lx.
 And, yes, so far, you can add Pretec and its 128 MB card to the list of
> cards that work... but I haven't given it a complete test run yet and
> don't have it actually working in the 100 lx.
    Not actually working in terms of running my business program... several
really large files that are hard to get on even with copying onto the palmtop
C: drive and then onto the 128 MB flash card.  I'm pretty sure I can use
interservr to do this along with my serial cable, but uploading and
downloading from the card to my business program (I do daily updates) would be
real difficult due to software setup on the main program.   Yes, I can save
and read files to the card using memo, so from the point of view of this list
it is working.
"Have you tried using Stacker 4.0 on the cards?
How many stacked drives do you have setup on your Desktop PC?"
   No, I haven't tried using stacker 4.0 on the cards.  I could, but I'd have
to change the setup (new stacker.com) on the old card, too.  I don't really
want to do that unless I need too... I have to keep using this system every
day (and sometimes at night) so down time and goof ups have to be minimized.
Besides, If I can't read the card it would be tough to stack it.  I have a
second hard drive (with programs I don't care that much about loosing and a
backup copy of the business program) that is stacked on the main computer.
The C: drive isn't stacked.  Only other stacked drive is the "E:" drive (card
reader).
   I've never used interserver but I am going to try tonight to see how that
might work.  Since I intend to get a new computer late spring/summer I don't
want to buy lots of extra things for this one right now.  Thanks for any help
as to why the crad isn't recognized in the Thin Card Drive.   Jean F. Feldman,
DVM
            Hamburg, NY

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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 20:57:15 -0500
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Ok, I don't keep up with this stuff, but apparently Thaddeus Computing
sells palmtops.  My question is, "Eh?"  First off, I thought they were
a magazine company.  Second, there's nothing on their web page about it.
So, what's the deal?  How do you get them?  How much do they cost?

Thanks for any input.

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

Volkswagen: It's not a car, it's a cult.

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Subject:      Re: FS: 4 New Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA modems for sale or trade

Stan,
On Wednesday, December 17, I sent you a cashiers' check for the Xjack modem and shipping as previously discussed in our correspondance. Please provide a confirmation that you have received the check and when I can expect to receive the modem as I haven't heard anything from you as of yet.
Thanks,
Ken Moore
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Stan Hall wrote:
Hi Ken,

I still have the non Xjack PCMCIA modem for $40 if you are interested.
Also I may be able to get ahold of two more of the xjack modems.  I have
one person that is interested, if you are willing to commit on the other
one it would be worth my effort to get them.  Let me know soon.

Thanks,

Stan Hall
Pillar Communication
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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 21:19:51 EST
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ian,

what thaddeus sells is used 200lx's, reconditioned & modified to times2tech
specs.  double speed & 8 meg.

don't know what they cost, but think it probably reasonable.  e-mail them &
get a quote.  they had a BIG add in the last issue i saw.

all reports are that they are up to mack's usual standard of excelence -- but
i can't comment from personal experience.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Hi and seasons greetings from Bristol in the South West of England.

Can you help me to get a "working" system going whereby my HP200 can
use the same PCMCIA Flash cards as the Toshiba notebook ?

The cards are series 2 cards, some are 10mb but a couple are 20mb and
it seems such a waste to be unable to use them on the HP. I've tried
the "ACE" flash driver but it doesn't recognise the card and I have no
utility (that I am aware of) to format the card again on the HP.

Win 95 on the Toshiba (OEM2 Version) also failed to recognise the
cards until I'd loaded the Swap FTL Software from SCM Microsystems
that is available on their internet site.

Anyone with any fresh thinking out there among you after all those
Christmas Calories and Litres of Alcohol ?????

Best wishes to you all.
Malcolm Viney

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Date:         Sat, 27 Dec 1997 22:22:01 -0500
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>   Dear Owen...
>
>   Do you know what type of 200's could "support" this upgrade ?
>   How much did you paid for the upgrade ?
>
>   Best Regards,
>
>   Martin
>   Marseb@giga.com.ar
>
Martin,

I paid $99.00+UPS 2nd day.  However a week later the upgrade price dropped
for a holiday special (12/20/97 to 12/31/97) to $69.00.  Just a month ago
it was 129 dollars.  You can see the add from NSW on the SUPER site at:
http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html

As far as I know, every HP200LX will support the upgrade.

Here's the way I think it breaks down:

If you now have a:     after the upgrade you will have:

1meg HP200LX           5meg HP200LX

 (this is what I have. Depending on when your 200LX was made, you may have
 to install (solder in) the memory board connector before plugging in the
board.)

older 2meg HP200LX     5meg HP200LX

 (These units have 1meg on the motherboard and 1meg on a plug in card. You
 would replace the 1meg plugin card with the 4meg upgrade card.)

newer 2meg HP200LX     6meg HP200LX

 (These units have 2meg on the motherboard and no plug in card. I think the
    plug is installed on the motherboard at the factory so the 4meg upgrade
    is easy to install here.)

4meg HP200LX           6meg HP200LX

 (These units have 2meg on the motherboard and a 2meg plug in card.
  you would replace the 2meg memory board with a 4meg memory board.)

By the way Notebook Supply Warehouse will do the installation for free if
you send you 200LX to them. I would check to see if the memory card plug is
installed on the motherboard before I sent my unit in because if the plug
is there then the installation is easy for you to do.

Hope this info helps.


Best Regards,
Owen Samuelson
Amateur Radio Call: KU4ET
HP200LX page: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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Date:         Sun, 28 Dec 1997 09:30:01 -0500
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Brian_Girling wrote:
>
> Hi all -
>
> Now that the weather is cooler, and drier, I notice a buildup of static
> electricity which usually discharges when I get out of my car.
>
> Do I have to worry about static electricity and the palmtop?  What could the
> consequences be if I am holding the palmtop in my hand as it discharges to
> my car door?
>
> Season's Greetings!
>
> Brian Girling
> Travel Ventures Canada Inc.     http://home.ica.net/~girling/ventures
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.09.2 Palm Top - Test Drive
>
Probably no problem. That is a normal exercise in product design 101.
Test product for static electric discharges before release to
production. I would have to believe that HP wouldn't miss such an
obvious test.

Years ago, one of my engineers discovered a ***** brand TV set that had
not passed the test. He scuffed his feet on the carpet in the store and
walked up to the electronic tuner, a big spark jumped from his finger as
he pressed the button and the set no longer tuned. Can happen.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Chris England wrote:
>
> David Sargeant wrote:
> >
> > Yi Wang wrote:
> >
> > > A more convenient place to get MiMH batteries at a bit lower mAh is Radio
> > > Shack.  They have 1200 mAh MiMH pair of batteries selling for $10.  Another
> > > place that sells lots of different kind of recharagable batteries and
> > > chargers is www.realgoods.com.
> >
> > Keep in mind, though, that one of the chief drawbacks of NiMH batteries is that
> > they discharge rapidly when not in use.  You can charge them up, put them in a
> > drawer, and a week later they're dead, even though they haven't been used.  The
> > batteries Times2 Tech sells don't have this problem, which was the main reason I
> > didn't use NiMH batteries before.
> > --
> > Visit the HP200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp
> >
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> I use D cells in my HP95.  Well, maybe not IN my HP95.  The HP95 draws
> 200 ma when the serial port is on for multi-day datalogging.  I clip a
> 4-cell D battery holder to the AA cell springs, and wire
> series/parallel.  This arrangement will last about 4 days until the HP95
> balks and turns off.  Two D cells, with double the draw rate, won't
> quite last 2 days.  1/5 amp seems a lot for the serial port on the HP95
> since this port is a two-wire and doesn't supply any power to the port.

Seems like a lot to me also. I realize just how inconvenient it is but I
would attempt to either get the bigger G cells or take a lantern battery
and build a little switch mode down converter to give you three volts
from the six as using batteries in parallel is not really a good plan.
The higher voltage cell tries to charge the lower voltage cell and that
wastes electricity.

I wish people would mention the brand of the battery rather than the
brand of the store. We don't have any of the stores mentioned but I can
find many different brands of batteries.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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Greetings,

        I got a phone quote from Thaddeus last week.  Used 8 meg double speed
200lx for $525 and new for $799, both a little high.  $749 buys a new
unit from the Palmtop Shop.

Colin

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While we are discussing dictionaries;

Has anyone found different language dictionaries and/or translators that
are
free/inexpensive.

I am especially looking for French,Italian,Spanish and German - to
English.

Wouldn't it be GREAT to have a portable translator/foreign dictionary
for
traveling?

Thanks,

Bob

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   >Would be interested to receive OB6DSK.ZIP
   >Thanks beforehand.
   >Styrofoam Hot Drink Cup and Press Any Key! - Registered
What is the size of OB6DSK.zip? If it not too big (< 400k) I6d like to
receive it. otherwise... can someone make it downloadable via ftp?
(I read my e-mail on my palmtop. that is why I have to limit the size of the
e-mailfiles.)


Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Sun, 28 Dec 1997 17:00:23 +0800
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Is anyone using REX with HP200LX?  Could you please share your comments in
terms of usability and data synchronization.

Thanks,

Raymond

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Bas Pruijn wrote:

> What is the size of OB6DSK.zip? If it not too big (< 400k) I6d like to
> receive it. otherwise... can someone make it downloadable via ftp?
> (I read my e-mail on my palmtop. that is why I have to limit the size of the
> e-mailfiles.)


Even without the explanation, it's apparent that this message was typed on the
200LX.  Nowhere else that I know of can you get "I6d" for "I'd".  I do that all
the time when I'm typing something up in DOS.  Buddy has spoiled me into just
hitting 6 for ' and * for ".  Oh well; it's a small price to pay for the
convenience of word processing on-the-go.
--
Visit the HP200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Does anybody know of a good astronomy program that will run on the 200LX
that will show the positions of the planets for a given location at a
given time?  I got a new telescope and I'd like to be able to figure out
which objects in the sky are interesting to look at.  I have Redshift on
the desktop, which is an excellent program, but unfortunately it needs
Windows and all that... :)

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Date:         Sun, 28 Dec 1997 20:14:06 +1100
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> I paid $99.00+UPS 2nd day.
Anyone know how much this postage (UPS) would be to Australia?


Is any kind of driver needed? I would expect it to just work like the
normal RAM - there's nothing about the upgrade to confuse the
poor thing? Surely a silly question!


What happens to the warranty? I mean, I fit it, I void the warranty;
NSW aren't supervising me, so they won't be taking it on (certainly
not for 69 bucks!).

If I do this thing, I better stop dropping my palmtop on concrete...




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http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
     "MML analysis and composition of nursery rhyme melodies."
PS
> However a week later the upgrade price dropped for a holiday special
> (12/20/97 to 12/31/97) to $69.00.
This sounds a little like the "Nintendo-64 Marketing Strategy". :)
...and my masters thesis is due on that date; so I may end up waiting
(written 588 lines    4236 words  25727 chars today; and it's only 8pm!
and it's lookin' good.)

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Date:         Sun, 28 Dec 1997 06:48:38 -0500
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Personally I do not like using fixed-length records for book databases
as the title field have to be quite long, resulting in a massive amount
of vasted space and make the LX-platform unfeasable. The following is
the good old UNIX way (which I have used for years for a variety of
purposes):

An ASCII database with one record per line and each field delimited
with, say, a tilde ('~') or a TAB should suffice. One can then search
info using a browser (such as LIST), GREP etc. The data could be entered
in an editor or in a simple specialized data entry program.

COMP~Tanenbaum, Andrew S.~Modern Operating Systems~Prentice-Hall~1992~728=
pp
CHESS~Soltis, Andrew~Opening Ideas and Analysis for Advanced Players Vol.=

1~Chess Digest~1992~220pp
=2E..

(Note: your version GREP may and not need double-quotes around the first
argument)

  grep CHESS~ books.txt            ('' =3D start of line)
  grep Tanenbaum books.txt
  grep "~Prenti.*" books.txt
  grep ~1992~ books.txt
  grep -c "~Prentice" books.txt     (count the number of entries)

piped into UNIX-like utilities such as sort, head, tail and a smal
formatting program would enable some nice reporting. Multiple GREP's
piped from one to the next could simulate boolean-AND.

grep ~Prentice books.txt | grep ~1992~
  (Prentice-Hall books from 1992)

Boolean-OR can either be expressed as a regular expression or as two
GREP commands redirected into a temporary file.

  efgrep "(~Prentice|~1992~)"
    (list Prentice-Hall books OR (as-well-as) books from 1992)

With a few AWK/PERL templates at hand, non-programmers would be able to
hack some more advanced searches:

 awk '$5 > 1990 { print }' books.txt      (books later than 1990)
 awk '$6 <=3D 500 { print }' books.txt      (books with <=3D 500 pages)

 grep "~Prentice-Hall" books.txt | awk '$5 > 1990 { print }' | ...
   (Prentice-Hall books later than 1990)

This may look cryptic but is quite easy to learn once you get started.
A few batch files would suffice for most reports.

The disadvantage is that such a database is not indexed. However, I
don't think DBASE is much faster (if at all) - DBASE is no sprinter and
the vasted space in the database would make it really slow.

The best thing is that one could start off in ASCII and anytime import
the ASCII data into, say, DBASE, Paradox or whatever.

Jorgen

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> piped into UNIX-like utilities such as sort, head, tail and a smal
> formatting program would enable some nice reporting. Multiple GREP's
> piped from one to the next could simulate boolean-AND.

That's the spirit! You want a database, you *make* one out of
unix utilities!

We never had none of this 'application program' schmantsy pantsy stuff
in my day!


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SKYGLOBE (shareware) seems to work fine on the LX but could benefit from =
a
colour screen as it shows the sky much like Redshift.

My version is probably old (version 3.5 from 1992):

skyextra.dat   108000
skyglobe.reg      175
skyglobe.cfu       85
skyglobe.exe   139443
skyglobe.ico      766

+ 71K doc file.

There is also a screen saver crystal.exe (80K) which is very nice.

I seem to remember that ASTROCLK apart from showing the time for various
NASA projects also showed the heliocentric angles + right ascention and
declination + some other stuff (angular size probably).

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Date:         Sun, 28 Dec 1997 07:37:49 -0500
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At 20:14 12/28/97 +1100, you wrote:
>> I paid $99.00+UPS 2nd day.
>Anyone know how much this postage (UPS) would be to Australia?
>

Don't know but it's probably still worth $69 + UPS to Australia.

>
>Is any kind of driver needed? I would expect it to just work like the
>normal RAM - there's nothing about the upgrade to confuse the
>poor thing? Surely a silly question!
>

No drivers needed, just plug and play.

>
>What happens to the warranty? I mean, I fit it, I void the warranty;
>NSW aren't supervising me, so they won't be taking it on (certainly
>not for 69 bucks!).
>

Will void any remaining HP warranty. Don't know if any warranty is provided
by NSW if you do the work. But they say the price includes installation by
them. They have a webpage: http://www.nsupply.com

>
>If I do this thing, I better stop dropping my palmtop on concrete...
>

I don't know what HP would do with your upgrade board if you had to send
them the 200lx for repair.  I'd be upset if they just took it out without
talking to me first.  Best bet is to remove it yourself before sending in
for repair, then re-install it when the lx returns from HP.



Best Regards,
Owen Samuelson
Amateur Radio Call: KU4ET
HP200LX page: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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Date:         Sun, 28 Dec 1997 21:29:17 +0800
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Can anyone who is using HP 200LX and 3Com PalmPilot Pro tell if the address
book and appointment of HP 200LX can be synchroized with PalmPilot Pro.  If
possible, please advise the details.

Thanks,

Raymond

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Date:         Sun, 28 Dec 1997 11:02:31 -0500
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In the past, I've seen people mention using Skyglobe on the LX.  I haven't
tried it myself, but you might look into it.  I think it's pretty widely
available.


At 01:04 AM 12/28/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Does anybody know of a good astronomy program that will run on the 200LX
>that will show the positions of the planets for a given location at a
>given time?
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You should try SkyGlobe 3.6.
Works nice on the LX.
On www.palmtop.net/super.html


Raffa
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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Subject:      Re: Thaddeus palmtops?

Ian,

IB>Ok, I don't keep up with this stuff, but apparently Thaddeus Computing
  >sells palmtops.  My question is, "Eh?"  First off, I thought they were
  >a magazine company.  Second, there's nothing on their web page about it.
  >So, what's the deal?  How do you get them?  How much do they cost?

     I bought mine from them and am very happy.  $575 for a refurbished
8 meg, double speed 200LX.  It looks and acts brand new.  I am very
happy I bought this instead of a new one.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   Jim Henry
 AirPower BBS
jim@airgunhq.com
jim@airpower.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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>> piped into UNIX-like utilities such as sort, head, tail and a smal
>> formatting program would enable some nice reporting. Multiple GREP's
>> piped from one to the next could simulate boolean-AND.
>
>That's the spirit! You want a database, you *make* one out of
>unix utilities!
>
>We never had none of this 'application program' schmantsy pantsy stuff
>in my day!

Yep - let's get back to the 60ies - eh, well ... 80ies and do away with
those fluffy application programs. Nothing beats UNIX when it comes to
data. But with the DOS versions of MKS toolkit, one can get the same
feel - even a Korn shell.

I hope to get my web-site up soon - look forward to some 4-500 byte unix
utilities!

And I suppose the LX brings memories back of slow computers but that is
another story.

Jorgen

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Date:         Sun, 28 Dec 1997 12:47:32 -0800
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I have received from Jorgen Wallgren a video driver that seems to give
full "CGA" graphics function of Acad R10 on my 200LX.  When exiting, it
requires a three finger salute to restore the video to standard mode.  I
also have not been able to get it to work with LaunchCAD, a ahareware
Acad shell has that made R10 much more manageable.  No problem with
EM87, though.  I've been using the arrow keys for cursor control, but
that doesn' give access to the top and side menus, so I'm going to try
HPmouse.  Are you interested in a copy of that driver?

David

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Date:         Sun, 28 Dec 1997 12:38:55 -0600
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I've often been able to answer questions that come up
on this board in just a few seconds. You can too, if
you have a good search engine and download a few files.

Maxfind is a search program that lets you search text files
for multiple words in and/or/not combinations from the Dos
command line.  It is quick, scanning text at 100K per
second on the LX or 2 meg per second on a Pentium 75.

To illustrate, lets search the index file for Simtel (at
oak.oakland.edu/simtel.net, 800k text) for editors.  This a
collection of 12000 of the best DOS free/shareware.  At the
DOS prompt enter:
   mf  editor simms.txt
This produces about 400 "hits". So lets look for editors
with spell check:
   mf  -a editor spell simms.txt
The -a option is an "and", both editor and spell must
be on the line. This produces 6 "hits".
Whenever I am browsing for downloads on the Web, I am on
the lookout for text to capture that describes downloadable
files. These I capture with a suffix of .ix so I can search
locally for the files.


At times, I want to search within more than a single line.
Maxfind will let you search a span of lines or a block
which can be defined in several ways.  One lets you specify
a word that delimits a block.  Lets use the archive of this
list (at www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml, about 1.5 meg
/ month).  Each message starts with the word "Date:", so
make that the block delimiter - -ps"Date:".  So we can do
and/or searches of the messages.  EG:
    mf  -ps"Date:" -a battery nicad/nimh  log97*.*
searches for messages that contain battery and nicad or nimh.

Maxfind is available in the Simtel library as maxfnd33.zip.
It has about 20 options, including fuzzy spelling. The zip
contains a 20 page manual. I am the author and I will answer
questions here. I can also attach the zip to an E-mail msg.

Maxfind will work on non-text files such a word processor and
database files, with varying degrees of success.

Other files of interest on Simtel
  v13n07.zip   This is a set of PC-Mag utilities that include Peruse,
               a backscroll program that recalls text scrolled off the
               screen. Useful when scanning the LX msg archives.
               Requires emm200
  disk766.zip  thru disk772.zip King James Bible (6 meg of text)
               with an ASCII 31 as a verse seperator so that
               -ps\31 works for Maxfind.

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Date:         Sun, 28 Dec 1997 13:16:35 -0800
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Chris England wrote:
> I use D cells in my HP95.  Well, maybe not IN my HP95.  The HP95 draws
> 200 ma when the serial port is on for multi-day datalogging.  I clip a
> 4-cell D battery holder to the AA cell springs, and wire
> series/parallel.  This arrangement will last about 4 days until the HP95
> balks and turns off.  Two D cells, with double the draw rate, won't
> quite last 2 days.  1/5 amp seems a lot for the serial port on the HP95
> since this port is a two-wire and doesn't supply any power to the port.

Why is this better than using a 117VAC to 12VDC converter?

David

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Ken A. Moore wrote:
>
> Stan,

I recieved your payment in fridays mail.  Mail service has been horrible
over the Christmas holiday. Though most the of the mail I received
friday was dated the 23rd, I have no idea why yours was delayed so
long.  I mailed your package saturday morning via priority mail.  I
expect that you should receive it by wednesday, hopefully sooner.  Let
me know when you receive it.

Thanks,

Stan

> On Wednesday, December 17, I sent you a cashiers' check for the Xjack modem and shipping as previously discussed in our correspondance. Please provide a confirmation that you have received the check and when I can expect to receive the modem as I haven't heard anything from you as of yet.
> Thanks,
> Ken Moore
> -----------------
> Stan Hall wrote:
> Hi Ken,
>
> I still have the non Xjack PCMCIA modem for $40 if you are interested.
> Also I may be able to get ahold of two more of the xjack modems.  I have
> one person that is interested, if you are willing to commit on the other
> one it would be worth my effort to get them.  Let me know soon.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stan Hall
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              ???????? HELP
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On Sun, 28 Dec 1997 02:47:33 GMT, you wrote:

>Hi and seasons greetings from Bristol in the South West of England.

Hi to you too.

>Can you help me to get a "working" system going whereby my HP200 can
>use the same PCMCIA Flash cards as the Toshiba notebook ?
>
>The cards are series 2 cards, some are 10mb but a couple are 20mb and
>it seems such a waste to be unable to use them on the HP. I've tried
>the "ACE" flash driver but it doesn't recognise the card and I have no
>utility (that I am aware of) to format the card again on the HP.

I had a similar problem, and someone pointed me to
http://www.magicram.com/dir/suport.htm
which has a True Flash File System package (tffs.zip).  It's designed for
the MagicRAM product, but works just fine with my Intel cards.

It could well be worth you giving it a try.

--=20
Neil Tungate (neil@skipper.demon.co.uk)
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Date:         Sun, 28 Dec 1997 18:50:21 -0500
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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 23:50:12 +0000
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On 1997-12-28 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >> You haven't explained what EMM is.

   >I gave examples of how EMM is used. The reason I didn't give a
   >technical description of what EMM is, is that I'm not 100% certain
   >myself, and I don't want to misinform anyone. I look around (in a
   >few books and on the net)  for a good description, but didn't find
   >any. That is why my description was somewhat non-technical.

If memory serves me correctly (tho lately it's somewhat suspect), EMM was
a memory managment technique introduced by a consortium of Lotus, Intel
and MS way back when the 640K memory limit was severely hamstringing
users with big needs.

Their EMM spec was supposed to be a "bank-switching" scheme whereby user
data was swapped to mapped memory areas outside the conventional 640K
as needed by the program code (I don't believe code swapping was supported,
nor was there any way to execute code in the EMM memory area). What this
allowed were huge spreadsheets and bought the software people some more
time as their apps had been swelling so large that there was no longer any
room for the user's data <g>.

Sorry if this isn't technical enough, or if I've seriously maligned someone's
elegant memory solution (it sounded like a hack way back then tho).

- Longden

PS. I haven't a clue as to the difference between EMM and EMS in terms of
what they can do and how they do it.


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David R. Birch wrote:
>
> Chris England wrote:
> > I use D cells in my HP95.  Well, maybe not IN my HP95.  The HP95 draws
> > 200 ma when the serial port is on for multi-day datalogging.  I clip a
> > 4-cell D battery holder to the AA cell springs, and wire
> > series/parallel.  This arrangement will last about 4 days until the HP95
> > balks and turns off.  Two D cells, with double the draw rate, won't
> > quite last 2 days.  1/5 amp seems a lot for the serial port on the HP95
> > since this port is a two-wire and doesn't supply any power to the port.
>
> Why is this better than using a 117VAC to 12VDC converter?
>
> David
>
I would guess that it depends on whether you have 117VAC or not.

Best regards,

Art Borg

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On Sat, 27 Dec 1997 20:24:52 -0500, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>Date:    Sat, 27 Dec 1997 12:14:12 MET
>From:    Mike Bright <mjb@HPTNOCOU.GRENOBLE.HP.COM>

>I was wondering if there exists an lxdir-like program for Windows NT?

>Ideally, I'd like this in source form to be able to integrate this
>into a perl-win32 application.

I'd start with Andreas Garzotto's LXTOOLS source, it'll be a good test of
just how POSIX-compliant NT really is (hah!). The Cygnus tools just might
compile it (?) If you get my latest variant --
http://www.clark.net/pub/peterw/LXFileman/lxtools-1.1a-Tkb.tar.gz you'll
also get Ed Falk's really nice LXBACKUP source code, modified a little bit
so it can deal with DOS-style filesystems.

If you run into real trouble, either load Linux on your NT box or get your
boss to buy you a workstation with an open OS like HP-UX  ;-)

-Peter

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Is there a simple PPP dialer that one can use on a 200LX? I need to
beable to dial my ISP and establish a PPP link. I know the Nettamer will
do this but I don't want or need email, news or WWW that Nettamer
provides. I just need to establish the link so I can use a IRC client
that I have (using ircII is kinda cumbersome for me). Any comments or
suggestions would be welcomed.


73 de KF4KGQ
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Happy Holidays to all,
   At 06:50 PM 12/28/97 -0500, you wrote:
   > You haven't explained what EMM is.

   As I recall, the EMM component is a method of arranging formating
memory above 1mb so that it could be used by any program that supported the
standard.  EMS then used some or all of that memory to create emulate a
bank-switched environment.  More programs supported the LIM (Lotus, Intel,
Microsoft standard than the direct addressing scheme of EMM.  EMM could
also be used for a RAM disk instead of EMS.
   Bank switched means that a given segment of memory, say 16mb, is
designated as a window into the high memory.  To access the memory,
different 16mb segments or banks of high memory are switched to be within
the designated range, thereby providing access to the entire amount, given
enough time.  Hence the name bank switched.
  Hope this helps.



      ...Gary, KB7QWC

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Date:         Sun, 28 Dec 1997 22:32:24 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Installing NSW Memory board very easy.

Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 03:32:15 +0000
Message-ID: <19971229033213.AAA993@12.64.7.45>

On 1997-12-28 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >Is any kind of driver needed? I would expect it to just work like
   >the normal RAM - there's nothing about the upgrade to confuse the

I have the T2T upgrade and it needs no driver....I'd rather expect NSW
to be the same. But a word on differences. T2T supplies an excellent
EMM utility that I heard won't work on NSW upgraded LXs. I don't know
how the T2T utility compares to the freeware version that I believe
the NSW people are using.

   >What happens to the warranty? I mean, I fit it, I void the warranty;
   >NSW aren't supervising me, so they won't be taking it on (certainly
   >not for 69 bucks!).

Don't know about that either. But for those of you with a few bucks to
spare (and I understand if there are only a few) and who use the PIM
functions alot...buy a 2nd LX. Find one cheap, used, unenhanced as your
backup machine cuz your life truly comes to a halt when your main
unit heads for the shop for a week (paid for or not).

   >If I do this thing, I better stop dropping my palmtop on concrete...

Ouch!

- Longden

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Skyglobe works great on my 200LX. It is available from the "Simtel"
site. It is shareware.

David Sargeant wrote:
>
> Does anybody know of a good astronomy program that will run on the 200LX
> that will show the positions of the planets for a given location at a
> given time?  I got a new telescope and I'd like to be able to figure out
> which objects in the sky are interesting to look at.  I have Redshift on
> the desktop, which is an excellent program, but unfortunately it needs
> Windows and all that... :)
>
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On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, peter <pewemo@CYBERCOMM.NL> wrote:

pe> I am using a complete customer dbase 6500 addresses about 6,5 Mbytes =
of
pe> data with my HP200LX
pe>
pe> The only disadvantage is that you have to terminate all tasks (with
pe> ..&, Menu,A, T) to get enough free DOS memory. But it give me my
pe> complete customer base when I am travelling.

Peter, have you tried installing MaxDos? This utility is available on
www.palmtop.net and allows you to run very large dos apps within the
sysmgr that normally would need you to terminate sysmgr first.

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On Sun, 28 Dec 1997, Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU> wrote:

br> Hmmm... is diskswapping with the hplx's RAM disk as fast as EMS, =
which
br> is using the same storage device? Or is it some other factor which
br> makes it faster?

Swapping into ems produces the fastest results since the routines
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              "S.Todd" <70312.462@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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On Dec 14 + 15 (I'm _way_ behind on my reading), there were some postings=

on area code info.

Another source of North American area codes, and international country
codes, is:

http://www.555-1212.com/aclookup.html

You can search for a particular code, or select a list. The lists are in
html.

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At 20:35 28/12/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Is there a simple PPP dialer that one can use on a 200LX? I need to
>beable to dial my ISP and establish a PPP link. I know the Nettamer will
>do this but I don't want or need email, news or WWW that Nettamer
>provides. I just need to establish the link so I can use a IRC client
>that I have (using ircII is kinda cumbersome for me). Any comments or
>suggestions would be welcomed.

Try http://oak.oakland.edu/pub/simtelnet/msdos/pktdrvr/dosppp05.zip

Regards. Nacho.

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              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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Comments: To: speters@kdsi.net

On 1997-12-28 speters@kdsi.net said:
 sp>Maxfind is available in the Simtel library as maxfnd33.zip.
 sp>It has about 20 options, including fuzzy spelling. The zip
 sp>contains a 20 page manual. I am the author and I will answer
 sp>questions here. I can also attach the zip to an E-mail msg.
Could you send me MAxfind. It looks more versatile as filefind from Norton
which by the way I have not been able to run on my Palmtop.


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I'd recommend that you use a power supply ( the HP one) when running the
modem rather than your batteries.

>----------
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>
>        Hi,
>
>        On Christmas day a new 14.4 Megahertz modem was first plugged
>into my 200LX.  The first attempt to connect to the host was successful
>from ccMail.  However as I reconnect it again with the same setting and
>configuration, the error says "Could not detect modem".  The same
>problem occurs in DataCom.  Instead when I do a connect from DataCom,
>the whole system hangs.
>
>        Same cable, same modem, same setup but failed to connect the
>second time.  Can someone shed a light on this?
>
>
>        Regards,
>        Catherine
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Subject:      Re: Info sources for LX users and Search engines.

Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 17:39:46 +0000
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On 1997-12-31 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >Could you send me MAxfind. It looks more versatile as filefind from
   >Norton which by the way I have not been able to run on my Palmtop.

Several of us use Norton's FileFind on the LX. I use version 4.5.

- Longden

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Does anybody know if it's possible to run the Accton EN2216 card
(drivers for which can be found on the SUPER site) on a Netware
network?  I can't seem to make the included MLID driver recognize the
card when its in the 200LX.  Also, does anybody know if this card will
work in a double-speed 200LX?

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It will scan for text within files based on filename, wildcard
filename, or a list of filenames (ala unix). It can also search
within files in subdirectories (recurse).

Daniel Z. Sands wrote:

> > Maxfind is a search program that lets you search text files...
>
> Will it scan directories or just named files?
>

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Comments: To: speters@kdsi.net

   >Maxfind is available in the Simtel library as maxfnd33.zip.
Sounds great. What is the size of the zipfile, and what is the size it uses
on the 200lx. Further: is it shareware or freeware?

It would be nice for searching the asci database described before.

Yours,

Bas Pruij

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Date:         Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:12:26 -0300
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From:         Martin Sebastian <marseb@GIGA.COM.AR>
Subject:      Re: Installing NSW Memory board very easy.

HP>Don't know but it's probably still worth $69 + UPS to Australia.

HP>No drivers needed, just plug and play.


HP>Best Regards,
HP>Owen Samuelson
HP>Amateur Radio Call: KU4ET
HP>HP200LX page: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

I almost forgot Owen, thanks for the info ! :)

I've tried to access NSW, but it seems, the server, was out of service


Anyway, thanks!


Martin
Marseb@giga.com.ar

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Date:         Mon, 29 Dec 1997 12:51:27 -0700
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I have started using Panasonic rechargeable batteries in my HP 95LX and I get a
pretty fair amount of use out of  each pair - generally between 10-14 days.  I
got about three to four weeks from my last set of alkaline batteries.  I
discharge them fully by putting them in a flashlight for a half hour before
recharging them.
        I had been swapping pairs before getting the low battery warning before now.
 This time, I got the warning, and actually waited for shutdown before
swapping.  After I popped the fully charged pair in, I got the low battery
warning every time I turned the machine on.  This in spite of the fact that the
indicator showed the batteries to be at 75%.  I tried plugging in the adapter,
resetting the machine (without reinitializing memory) and neither worked.
        I put a pair of alkaline batteries in for just long enough to check the
battery gauge in setup - it showed 100% of course.  Then I shut the machine
off, and put in the Ni-Cads again.  Still showing 75%, but no more low battery
warnings!
        Can anyone help me understand this?  And maybe tell me a location I can hit
with DEBUG that will reset the low battery warning so I don't have to put up
with it all the time until I can swapp for alkalines for an irritating ten
seconds?

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Date:         Mon, 29 Dec 1997 13:49:54 -0600
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I've been reading the digest for two or three weeks, and learned a lot,
so I wandered thru a few web sites, and decided to order some cables
from Educalc, and the memory upgrade from NSW.

Alas, to my surprise, when I called Educalc to get the status of my
order, they said the cables were not in stock, and would never be since
they were going out of business on Wednesday.

So then I called NSW to see about procedures for sending them my 200,
and they said send it fast because they were not accepting any computers
after Wednesday, since the boss would be deciding on Friday about
shutting the business down also.

Just an FYI for folks looking to do business with either of these
companies.

Henry

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Date:         Mon, 29 Dec 1997 12:13:02 -0800
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Subject:      Re: HP 95LX and Ni-Cad Batteries
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I can't say much about your problem, but I've had no end of grief with
my cards when the batteries fail in the HP200LX.

I'm running a 6MB flash memory with fax/modem card by Smart Modular
Techologies.  It can seize up and all data become unavailable until a
hard reboot with re-initialization of memory.  The card doesn't really
like to get reinstalled without drivers etc which are now not available
as the HP doesn't know they are there on the F:  drive.  Basically you
need to use another PC to laplink the drivers in then edit the
autoexec.bat and config.sys.

Obviously this is really a pain and can be avoided by using something
like Buddy to track battery voltage.

P.S.

I don't like to remove a PCMCIA card while the HP is running for very
similar to the above reasons.



>----------
>From:  Bryan PearsonSMTP:bryan@onyxgfx.com
>Reply To:      bryan@onyxgfx.com
>Sent:  December 29, 1997 11:51 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject:       HP 95LX and Ni-Cad Batteries
>
>I have started using Panasonic rechargeable batteries in my HP 95LX and I get
>a
>pretty fair amount of use out of  each pair - generally between 10-14 days.
>I
>got about three to four weeks from my last set of alkaline batteries.  I
>discharge them fully by putting them in a flashlight for a half hour before
>recharging them.
>        I had been swapping pairs before getting the low battery warning
>before now.
> This time, I got the warning, and actually waited for shutdown before
>swapping.  After I popped the fully charged pair in, I got the low battery
>warning every time I turned the machine on.  This in spite of the fact that
>the
>indicator showed the batteries to be at 75%.  I tried plugging in the
>adapter,
>resetting the machine (without reinitializing memory) and neither worked.
>        I put a pair of alkaline batteries in for just long enough to check
>the
>battery gauge in setup - it showed 100% of course.  Then I shut the machine
>off, and put in the Ni-Cads again.  Still showing 75%, but no more low
>battery
>warnings!
>        Can anyone help me understand this?  And maybe tell me a location I
>can hit
>with DEBUG that will reset the low battery warning so I don't have to put up
>with it all the time until I can swapp for alkalines for an irritating ten
>seconds?
>
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Date:         Mon, 29 Dec 1997 14:34:54 -0600
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I may be adding to the obvious, but have you set the palmtop for Ni-Cad
when you replaced the alkalines with Ni-Cads?

Phil

>----------
>From:  Bryan PearsonSMTP:bryan@ONYXGFX.COM
>Sent:  Monday, December 29, 1997 1:51 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       HP 95LX and Ni-Cad Batteries
>
>I have started using Panasonic rechargeable batteries in my HP 95LX and I get
>a
>pretty fair amount of use out of  each pair - generally between 10-14 days.
>I
got about three to four weeks from my last set of alkaline batteries
<snip>
>        I put a pair of alkaline batteries in for just long enough to check
>the
>battery gauge in setup - it showed 100% of course.  Then I shut the machine
>off, and put in the Ni-Cads again.  Still showing 75%, but no more low
>battery
>warnings!
>

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Date:         Mon, 29 Dec 1997 12:42:51 -0800
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              David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
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Yikes!  If NSW goes out of business, who will financially support the
SUPER site?  This could be bad for all of us...

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Date:         Mon, 29 Dec 1997 14:06:09 -0700
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There is no such setting for the 95LX.  There is no built-in charging for them
either.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Phil Drummond SMTP:phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM
Sent:   Monday, December 29, 1997 1:35 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: HP 95LX and Ni-Cad Batteries

I may be adding to the obvious, but have you set the palmtop for Ni-Cad
when you replaced the alkalines with Ni-Cads?

Phil

>----------
>From:  Bryan PearsonSMTP:bryan@ONYXGFX.COM
>Sent:  Monday, December 29, 1997 1:51 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
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>
>I have started using Panasonic rechargeable batteries in my HP 95LX and I get

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Date:         Mon, 29 Dec 1997 21:01:44 GMT
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From:         Stacy Marsella <marsella@ISI.EDU>
Subject:      Problem with POST/LX

Hello everyone. I just this list about a couple of weeks back -
it's nice to see there is an active community of HP/LX palmtop users.

Hopefully, someone can help me with the problem I am having or has
experienced a similar problem.  I just bought D&A's WWW/LX PLUS (from
Shier Systems). I have been trying to set up POST/LX to a) not delete
mail on the server but b) just download previously unretrieved
email. It is not working, it always retrieves all the mail including
previously retrieved mail. I verified that my ISP is putting in the
X-UIDL header line and it works on my other machines (a NeXT and a
Mac). I have set up POST with the email setting box "Delete Messages
After Download" unchecked which D&A support informed me is the way to
do it. But still POST retrieves all messages.

In case it helps, here are the details on what version of POST I am
using -

post.exe   bytes: 26,321  date :05-26-97  5:08pm
reader.exe bytes: 64,276  date: 05-19-97  6:59pm

The About Menu item in reader.exe returns the following:
 Reader/LX 1.0  S/N registered
 ... (c) 1992-1997  ... by Thomas Rundel
 ...

Any ideas or suggestions as to what I should try next?

Thanks very much
 & Happy Holidays

Stacy C. Marsella

marsella@isi.edu

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Date:         Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:13:38 -0500
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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>Yikes!  If NSW goes out of business, who will financially support the
>SUPER site?  This could be bad for all of us...

Well, he paid through January and didn't ask for a refund on the unused
month so things are OK for now. Problem is, there're not too many businesses
left to advertise on the site. :(

Things, they be a-changin'...

Mitch

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Date:         Mon, 29 Dec 1997 15:23:16 -0600
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Sorry about that, I guess I should actually be reading posts before
replying to them. :)

Phil

>----------
>From:  Bryan PearsonSMTP:bryan@ONYXGFX.COM
>Sent:  Monday, December 29, 1997 3:06 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: HP 95LX and Ni-Cad Batteries
>
>There is no such setting for the 95LX.  There is no built-in charging for
>them
>either.
>
>

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Date:         Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:22:32 -0500
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Bryan,

There is a design flaw in the 95LX's battery monitoring system where it does not reset the low battery warning
with some batteries.

I never ran across this myself because I always used alkalines, but I have seen where others had reported it.

There is a utility out there that corrects this problem, but I don't know the name of it is, off hand.

Buddy might also fix this problem, but I'm not sure.

Sorry to be so vague.  Have not had to address 95LX issues like this for several years.

Michael

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Can someone suggest me a way to download jpeg formatted pictures from Toshiba digital
camera PDR-2. The camera uses smart media flash memory card. POST /54613008405376883430631/gmm_multiplex.femail
HTTP/1.1



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You are the first person that I have found that is running the same card as
myself.
Nothing but trouble. I heard that you weren't supposed to use alkaline with
memory cards, so I changed to Eveready rechargeables. Things started to
improve. Any compressing/decompressing I do on the C drive because of problems
when trying to accomplish the same thing on the F drive.
Did you try AOL1.6 on your modem yet? If you've been successful, let me know.

Gary

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Date:         Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:31:54 -0500
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Gary,

You should not use alkaline batteries with ATA flash cards.  Alkaline batteries are no problem with SRAM
cards.

95LX's can only use SRAM cards.

--- On Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:15:44 EST  GSmoot1938 <GSmoot1938@AOL.COM> wrote:

>You are the first person that I have found that is running the same card as
>myself.
>Nothing but trouble. I heard that you weren't supposed to use alkaline with
>memory cards, so I changed to Eveready rechargeables. Things started to
>improve. Any compressing/decompressing I do on the C drive because of problems
>when trying to accomplish the same thing on the F drive.
>Did you try AOL1.6 on your modem yet? If you've been successful, let me know.
>
>Gary
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Date:         Tue, 30 Dec 1997 00:49:21 +0100
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On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Longden Loo wrote:

> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 17:39:46 +0000
> Message-ID: <19971229173944.AAA7674@12.64.36.174>
>
> On 1997-12-31 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
>
>    >Could you send me MAxfind. It looks more versatile as filefind from
>    >Norton which by the way I have not been able to run on my Palmtop.
>
> Several of us use Norton's FileFind on the LX. I use version 4.5.
>
I use Xgrep from garbo (garbo.uwasa.fi - a must see for DOS software).
It is pretty efficient and coupled with a few other Unix utils it is hard
to beat :-)

Still, its Unix and not everyone's cup of hot milky beverage.

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Sun, 28 Dec 1997 11:42:08 -0800
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> > I paid $99.00+UPS 2nd day.
> Anyone know how much this postage (UPS) would be to Australia?

Try the UPS page at:  http://www.ups.com


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Date:         Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:27:02 -0600
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The zip is 33K, mf.exe is 17K and needs less than 64K to execute.

Bas Pruijn wrote:

>    >Maxfind is available in the Simtel library as maxfnd33.zip.
> Sounds great. What is the size of the zipfile, and what is the size it uses
> on the 200lx. Further: is it shareware or freeware?

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From:         Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
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It is shareware. registration is $15 and is non-mandatory.
The pgm is not crippled in any way.

Bas Pruijn wrote:

>    >Maxfind is available in the Simtel library as maxfnd33.zip.
> Sounds great. What is the size of the zipfile, and what is the size it uses
> on the 200lx. Further: is it shareware or freeware?

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Date:         Mon, 29 Dec 1997 19:44:55 -0600
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Yes, in fact there is a built-in T option to get screen and
file output at the same time.

I use mf with the dir command to get a quick media cataloging system.
First use the DOS label command (swiped from DOS 6.2) to add
an electronic label. Then:
    dir  a:\   >>catalog.ix
Run this for your disks or PCMCIA cards - (the >> means 'add new
text to the end of the file'). Then I have this one line batch file
(mfix.bat):
    mf volume %1 %2 %3 catalog.ix   |   mf -psvolume %1 %2 %3
Then searching for a file (ie:  mfix buddy ) show the file location,
date
and size in a couple seconds on two lines.


Daniel Z. Sands wrote:

Sounds interesting.  Can I direct output to a text file for further
processing?


> Text of message from speters@kdsi.net, 29 Dec 1997, 12:50 PM
> > It will scan for text within files based on filename, wildcard
> > filename, a list of filenames (ala unix) and it can also search
> > all subdirectories (recurse).
> >
> > Daniel Z. Sands wrote:
> >
> > > > Maxfind is a search program that lets you search text files...
> > >
> > > Will it scan directories or just named files?
> > >
>
> - Danny

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Comments: To: di970225@diku.dk

Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 02:31:11 +0000
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On 1997-12-29 di970225@diku.dk said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >> Several of us use Norton's FileFind on the LX. I use version 4.5.

   >I use Xgrep from garbo (garbo.uwasa.fi - a must see for DOS
   >software). It is pretty efficient and coupled with a few other Unix
   >utils it is hard to beat :-)
   >Still, its Unix and not everyone's cup of hot milky beverage.

I'm still learning Unix. When I'm a bit more comfortable, I'll be gunning
to use more of those utilities too <g>.

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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For what's it's worth I've been trying to install a PPP packet driver on
my 200LX for the past couple of days and I've finally got it to work a
couple of different ways:

1) I compiled slirp on my Linux shell account to simulate a ppp connection
   and use etherppp to hook up to it.

2) I use etherppp to dial my ppp account and directly grab an IP

I have been usuing irc101 from the Simtel site to do irc, it's just
really amazing to me what these little machines can do! Now if I could
just use Netscape, hehehe :)

On an unrelated note, to Al Kind, I got the files and let you know how it
works!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net
Reserve Captain
Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept
Birmingham, Alabama USA
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    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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David Sargeant wrote:
>
> peter wrote:
>
> > I am using a complete customer dbase 6500 addresses about 6,5 Mbytes of
> > data with my HP200LX
> > I am running DBASE4 on my SANDISK 10Mbyte Flashcard.
> > The only disadvantage is that you have to terminate all tasks (with
> > ..&, Menu,A, T) to get enough free DOS memory. But it give me my
> > complete customer base when I am travelling.
>
> This is the kind of thing Software Carousel is good for.  You could run
> dBase IV in a work area and still have the System Manager open in another.
> Speaking of which: does anybody know who sells Software Carousel now, and
> what the phone number is?  I need to update the FAQ and my reviews page.
> --
> Visit the HP200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp
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Phone: (954) 581-2200.  Technical support is (954) 581-3330.

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At 10:02 AM 26/12/97 -1, you wrote:
>On 1997-12-23 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
>   >I am in process of getting a 2X Upgrade and have been running
>   >turbocpu on a single speed. Has anyone played with upping the speed
>   >of a 2X??
>   >Curious
>   >Russell
>Hi russell,
>can you, or anyone else explain to me what turbocpu is?
>
>Bas Pruijn          pruijn@few.eur.nl        http://surf.to/pruijn
>
Hi Bas

Turbocpu is a program I found on SUPER I think that increases the speed of
the LX. I used an old speed detection program that advised the speed of the
LX at 4.5 MHZ  with turbocpu it goes to 6.5MHZ and there is another called
maxcpu that put it at 9 MHZ but the screen flickered so I stayed at the 6.5
speed.  It really speeds up access to things like the Database.

With the 2X upgrades there is a 31MHZ crystal to replace the 16MHZ standard
I believe.  I presume the software fixes screen flicker.  To eke out the
most of speed I was curious if the turbo program would run on the upgraded
crystal to give a little better performance.

Has anyone tried it??

Russell

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Date:         Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:05:44 -0800
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              Gene Johnson <krcaddis@THEGRID.NET>
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At 04:22 PM 12/29/1997 -0500, mdstockr wrote:
>Bryan,
>
>There is a design flaw in the 95LX's battery monitoring system where it
does not reset the low battery warning
>with some batteries.There is a utility out there that corrects this
problem, but I don't know the name of it is. Buddy might also fix this
problem, but I'm not sure.
>

I love my ol' 95' - and short of the battery messaging problems & wierd
screen anomolies ( ever had to massage your screen to activate the LCD? -
it went away when running on the adapter Double ??)

My point is ( and I have one ) - I'd be interested in buying a good
95/100lx w/ 1 meg or more; LOW END IS OK- upgraded one if such anomaly
exists- at a very reasonable price - due to the relative age - (one notch
up from my collegate K&E sliderule!)  EMail me privately if you still have
one in your desk or trunk that runs well and is under utilized as a
paperweight/wheel chock.

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In a message dated 97-12-28 03:00:31 EST:

<< While we are discussing dictionaries;

 Has anyone found different language dictionaries and/or translators that
 are
 free/inexpensive.
  >>

How about Portugese as well???

Dennis

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David R. Birch wrote:
>I have received from Jorgen Wallgren a video driver that seems to give
>full "CGA" graphics function of Acad R10 on my 200LX.  When exiting, it
>requires a three finger salute to restore the video to standard mode.  I
>also have not been able to get it to work with LaunchCAD, a ahareware
>Acad shell has that made R10 much more manageable.  No problem with
>EM87, though.  I've been using the arrow keys for cursor control, but
>that doesn' give access to the top and side menus, so I'm going to try
>HPmouse.  Are you interested in a copy of that driver?

>David

Are you kidding me? Of course I am interested! I'd be thrilled to get that
driver. Actually, I had the same problem with AutoCad as you did and I was
pissed off because it couldn't work. If you recall, this theme was already
discussed on the Mailing list a month ago, but noone offered any solution. I
already said Goodbye to AutoCad, and then you came up with this driver like a
Santa Claus. If it's not too big, and if it's not bothering you too much,
please send it to me by E-mail.

Happy New Year!

Dejan,
dradic@sezampro.yu

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On Sun, 28 Dec 1997, Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

ll> I have the T2T upgrade and it needs no driver....I'd rather expect =
NSW
ll> to be the same. But a word on differences. T2T supplies an excellent
ll> EMM utility that I heard won't work on NSW upgraded LXs.

Longden, the nsw mem upgrades are 100% compatibile with the t2t's tremm
expanded memory manager. The only problem is that t2t does not sell its
ems utility separately afaik....

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Date:         Tue, 30 Dec 1997 08:47:19 -0500
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              Yi Wang <yi@SPRINTMAIL.COM>
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>Yikes!  If NSW goes out of business, who will financially support the
>SUPER site?  This could be bad for all of us...


This is pretty bad, I just sent in a 200LX to NSW to get the $69 memory
upgrade!

Would I ever be able to see my 200LX again?  =(

            Yi

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Date:         Tue, 30 Dec 1997 08:55:48 -0500
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>This is pretty bad, I just sent in a 200LX to NSW to get the $69 memory
>upgrade!
>
>Would I ever be able to see my 200LX again?  =(

You should have no problems. I got an email from NSW last night saying that
they had gotten a lot of upgrade sales all at once. They may keep the
special going until they sell out of chips (about 40 more).

As for warranty, out of the nearly 3000 upgrades they have performed, they
have had no failures according to them.

Mitch

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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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I try to resist the "me too", one liners, but...
Autocad has always been a big plus to me and the idea of being able to
use it on my palmtop, even if only for fun would make me very happy.
Please include me on your "distribution list".  :)

Phil

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>
>
>Are you kidding me?
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TINYED.ZIP can also be found at

ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/os2/ibm/ews/tinyed.zip

(I had no luck at the site Russ cited).
-Eric
> ----------
> From:         Russel BrooksSMTP:rlbrooks@POBOX.COM
> Sent:         Saturday, December 20, 1997 11:23 AM
> Subject:      T, theTiny editor, less than 10k
>
> Editors are like religions, everybody likes their own and you take
> your
> life in your hands when trying to convince someone to change.
>
> However, if you're between religions, ...I mean editors, let me
> recommend
> a really good one when you consider its size.
>
>   ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/os2_ews/tinyed.zip
>
> T.EXE (from the above zip) is under 10k in size which makes it an
> ideal
> candidate for a DOS palmtop like the HPLX.  It can be configured via
> an included program to match your needs.
        <clip>

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There's a site I stumbled across devoted to PalmPilots, that has a lot
of interesting .txt-based and .csv type files.  (e.g.  Hotel 800#,
Airline 800#, Food, calories, etc.)

For those interested... it is:   http://www.memoware.com/

The *.doc files are specific for PalmPilots but there are many *.txt and
.csv files that can be used.

Les
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>There's a site I stumbled across devoted to PalmPilots, that has a lot
>of interesting .txt-based and .csv type files.  (e.g.  Hotel 800#,
>Airline 800#, Food, calories, etc.)
>
>For those interested... it is:   http://www.memoware.com/

Good find. MemoWare was created by my friend Craig Froehle and began life on
a server at the University of Cincinnati, then moved to my web server, then
moved off to it's own server. Craig stopped by my office yesterday and said
he had gotten over 1000 hits (a good day) to his front page last Sunday
(normally a slow day). There is lots of good data there.

Mitch

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Date:         Tue, 30 Dec 1997 11:36:09 -0600
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Mitch,

Is there a way to translate the PalmPilot "*.doc" files on the Memoware
site?

Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:
>
> >For those interested... it is:   http://www.memoware.com/
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Let me know if you can't get it.   You need to go to ftp.cdrom.com   first.
Then click on pub and then on os2.   Keep going by clicking on ibm and then
ews.   There you will find tinyed.zip

It downloaded fine.  Remember that ftp is different access than htp.

Cathy

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Can't remember (old age!!!) if I am included on the email  (ACAD) list so this
may be redundant.

I am an AutoCAD instructor and would LOVE to be able to run some form of it on
my palmtop.

Cathy

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I use Eudora on my desktop PC.  I would like to transfer my e-mail messages
to my HP200 for reading.  I do not use my HP200 to access my mail service
or the internet at all.  Other than transfering the messages as a giant
text file - are there any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

Carol

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On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:

> >Yikes!  If NSW goes out of business, who will financially support the
> >SUPER site?  This could be bad for all of us...
>
> Well, he paid through January and didn't ask for a refund on the unused
> month so things are OK for now. Problem is, there're not too many businesses
> left to advertise on the site. :(

Well, there's HP....

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>> month so things are OK for now. Problem is, there're not too many businesses
>> left to advertise on the site. :(
>
>Well, there's HP....

Oh, I can see this one now!

ME: Hi, I'm Mitch Hamm and I run a website devoted to your 100/200LX palmtop
computers.

HP: Our what?

:)

Mitch

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>>Yikes!  If NSW goes out of business, who will financially support the
>>SUPER site?  This could be bad for all of us...
>
>Well, he paid through January and didn't ask for a refund on the unused
>month so things are OK for now. Problem is, there're not too many =
businesses
>left to advertise on the site. :(
>
>Things, they be a-changin'...

Maybe those of us with some spare, free, web space could host areas of =
the
site, with someone holding the main pages with links off to the other
sites. After all the database stuff is already held in Australia, so
there's no reason why it shouldn't work.  It's more a case of *who* could
host the main site, and whether we can get by without a nice specific URL
like palmtop.net!  I'm certainly prepared to dedicate a section of my web
site to palmtop software. The only problem would be if the number of hits
gets so large that my ISP complains, but I rather think that's unlikely =
:-)

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Subject:      Utility to convert from OUTLOOK to Appointment Manager

If anyone is interested in a utility to transfer apppointments and tasks
from Outlook to HP-100/200, please give me an email. If there is
sufficient interest I will send to SUPER or if not will send to
individual users. Right now it is one way only (outlook to HP) and does
not do repeating appointments as repeating appointments - each one is
treated as its own event - I still am working on it though! (grin).

I hope everyone had a happy holiday and wish you all a properous new
year!

Brian

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If space becomes a problem...
Ok, this is a short story to explain my reply.
Over a year ago, I discontinued my subscription to internet service with
Netcom.  This was no easy task.  To this day, the account I "closed" is
still there, and the FTP space is still "on-line".
<ftp.netcom.com\pub\gr\greymouse> or something, I don't recall exactly.
If the password to that account was let's say, to "leak"...

Phil

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>Sent:  Tuesday, December 30, 1997 2:52 PM
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>
>>>Yikes!  If NSW goes out of business, who will financially support the
>>>SUPER site?  This could be bad for all of us...
>>
>>Well, he paid through January and didn't ask for a refund on the unused
>>month so things are OK for now. Problem is, there're not too many businesses
>>left to advertise on the site. :(
>>
>>Things, they be a-changin'...
>
>Maybe those of us with some spare, free, web space could host areas of the
>site, with someone holding the main pages with links off to the other
>sites. After all the database stuff is already held in Australia, so
>there's no reason why it shouldn't work.  It's more a case of *who* could
>host the main site, and whether we can get by without a nice specific URL
>like palmtop.net!  I'm certainly prepared to dedicate a section of my web
>site to palmtop software. The only problem would be if the number of hits
>gets so large that my ISP complains, but I rather think that's unlikely :-)
>
>--
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>Team 200LX UK
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Is it possible to synchronize my palmtop to outlook folders stored in
exhange server? I can synchronize to presonal folders, but that is not
good since all my data (appointments etc.) is allways in my mailbox in
server (for others to look at). Any help will be highly appreciated!!

Thanks,

Timo


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Tried Intellsync?

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>
>If anyone is interested in a utility to transfer apppointments and tasks
>from Outlook to HP-100/200, please give me an email. If there is
>sufficient interest I will send to SUPER or if not will send to
>individual users. Right now it is one way only (outlook to HP) and does
>not do repeating appointments as repeating appointments - each one is
>treated as its own event - I still am working on it though! (grin).
>
>I hope everyone had a happy holiday and wish you all a properous new
>year!
>
>Brian
>
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Anyone know of some way or some good software that allows a person to
turn off the feature which times out the HP after a while?  I'd like to
use mine to log some data so the unit can't turn itself off after 3 ro 5
minutes of no input.

Thanks

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On Tue, 30 Dec 1997 11:05:57, you wrote:

> I use Eudora on my desktop PC.  I would like to transfer my e-mail
> messages to my HP200 for reading.

Some time ago a list member wrote such a program.
Check the S.U.P.E.R. Site. If its not there let me know and I'll send to
a copy.




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Dear Sir,

I want to know your solution. Can you send a copy?

Thank you very much.

Celson Aquino
http://www.svn.com.br/celson

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Date:         Mon, 29 Dec 1997 14:43:45 +1100
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Subject:      Re: Big database on LX?
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> But with the DOS versions of MKS toolkit, one can get the same feel
> - even a Korn shell.

Tell me, is that Korn shell any good? I'm using wced - which gives
better filename completion than tcsh.

I've also gone slightly backwards for feel - I use a del alias on unix.


> Nothing beats UNIX when it comes to data.
I also managed to write a keyword completion program in sed, and DOS
batch files!

So, you *must* be using calvin, or some other vi clone. I'm putting
Vim back when I get the room - it has keyword completion built-in,
a big bonus if you like to avoid typing on your lx!



> I hope to get my web-site up soon - look forward to some 4-500 byte unix
> utilities!
Cool!

> And I suppose the LX brings memories back of slow computers but that is
> another story.
A ZX81 emulator runs about 5 times faster on the LX than a ZX81...


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On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > But with the DOS versions of MKS toolkit, one can get the same feel
> > - even a Korn shell.
>
> Tell me, is that Korn shell any good? I'm using wced - which gives
> better filename completion than tcsh.

Isn't this rather big? The korn shell you can find on Garbo is ~800kb
zipped. It is also from 1994 so it might not be the same version or even
run on the LX.

> I've also gone slightly backwards for feel - I use a del alias on unix.
As long as you don't "alias cd.. (cd ..)" :)

snip
>
> > I hope to get my web-site up soon - look forward to some 4-500 byte unix
> > utilities!
> Cool!
Yeah, eagerly being awaited...

> > And I suppose the LX brings memories back of slow computers but that is
> > another story.
> A ZX81 emulator runs about 5 times faster on the LX than a ZX81...

Okay, this is slightly off topic, but...
I read somewhere (although I cannot remember where) that the 0-286 is
actually faster than the 386+ because the instructions are only 16bit
long. This would mean that a 286-16 would be noticeably faster than a
386-16. This was hearsay, so can anyone confirm/deny? Perhaps this is the
reason that there has been some reports of the LX being almost as fast as
a 486 when doing some tasks (someone mentioned that TeX ran very fast).

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:34:10 -0600
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Try Shift+Ctrl+On to reset the LX, not just Shift+On.

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On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, HOBCHI wrote:
> Three finger or Shift/On don't do noth-thing.
> The only way I can get out of this is to take all the batteries out.
>
> Can anyone shed some light on this problem?

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Date:         Tue, 30 Dec 1997 20:56:26 -0500
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>> > But with the DOS versions of MKS toolkit, one can get the same feel
>> > - even a Korn shell.
>>
>> Tell me, is that Korn shell any good? I'm using wced - which gives
>> better filename completion than tcsh.
>
>Isn't this rather big? The korn shell you can find on Garbo is ~800kb
>zipped.

Get hold of an old MKS toolkit. At least the software tools in the old
versions were *VERY* small and of *VERY* good quality.

I stopped upgrading after version 3.1 as I started getting the feeling
that MKS began thinking the traditional way: make things larger and
larger i.e. with a low facility/byte rate. I could easily be wrong; for
me it was more important to have the same version on the portable and
the desktop computer. For the Windozers there is a Windows version which
I have never seen.

I should add that I am actually not running the MKS Toolkit on the LX
but have it running on all other computers. Couldnt live without it!

The shell alone is 74K. You can add as many or as few of your favourite
utilities as you like.

You do not add passwd etc (unless you want your LX to look like a UNIX
machine). You can go in and out of the shell as you please. If you just
want to run a shell script once in a while, you can execute "sh abc.ksh"
or whatever it is called.


>> > And I suppose the LX brings memories back of slow computers but that=

>> > is another story.
>> A ZX81 emulator runs about 5 times faster on the LX than a ZX81...

Ah, I was actually thinking of an old NCR Tower with plenty of users and
little memory!

According to SI.EXE (don't remember where it came from), the CPU speed
is 2.2 times faster than the original IBM XT. The c: drive is of course
faster than the floppy on this.

I cannot imagine LaTeX to run fast on an LX.

Jorgen

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>    >Is any kind of driver needed? I would expect it to just work like
>    >the normal RAM - there's nothing about the upgrade to confuse the
>
> I have the T2T upgrade and it needs no driver....I'd rather expect NSW
> to be the same. But a word on differences. T2T supplies an excellent
> EMM utility that I heard won't work on NSW upgraded LXs.

If it is just plain RAM, it's hard to see how the EMM would be affected...
Has anyone actually tried the EMM utility on a NSW upgraded LX?

> ...buy a 2nd LX. Find one cheap, used, unenhanced as your backup machine
> cuz your life truly comes to a halt when <snip>
One of the perils of keeping part of your brain in a box...


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  >
  > TINYED.ZIP can also be found at
  >
  > ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/os2/ibm/ews/tinyed.zip
  >
  > (I had no luck at the site Russ cited).
  > -Eric

This is an older version (v2.0).  I just uploaded v2.20a to my web site.
Click the FTP link at the bottom of my main page to access the ftp
directory, or ftp directly to ftp://ftp.qsl.net/pub/n5ntm/.

  > >   ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/os2_ews/tinyed.zip

BTW- this is also the older version.

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Date:         Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:24:31 -0500
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Can this memory upgrade be used in a HP100LX?

Rodger

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> Turbocpu is a program I found on SUPER I think that increases the speed of
> the LX. I used an old speed detection program that advised the speed of the
> LX at 4.5 MHZ  with turbocpu it goes to 6.5MHZ and there is another called
> maxcpu that put it at 9 MHZ but the screen flickered so I stayed at the 6.5
> speed.

This is really freaky! I read of those programs, but didn't believe it...

Before compiling, I would like to call one of these (and turn the screen off,
too, perhaps - LXMIDI doc says that takes 9%(?)); and then remove it
after. Doubling compilation speed has gotta be good!

Anyone know of any other problems with these tricks?


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> >> month so things are OK for now. Problem is, there're not too many
> >> businesses left to advertise on the site. :(
> >
> >Well, there's HP....
>
> Oh, I can see this one now!
>
> ME: Hi, I'm Mitch Hamm and I run a website devoted to your 100/200LX palmtop
> computers.
>
> HP: Our what?
>
> :)

:) but :( but true

Does anyone have a FAQ section of testimonials, where the hplx was
really useful? I don't mean cute, or cool, or fun; but where it really
made a difference? No need to hype it all; but the facts.


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At 11:05 AM 12/30/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I use Eudora on my desktop PC.  I would like to transfer my e-mail messages
>to my HP200 for reading.  I do not use my HP200 to access my mail service
>or the internet at all.  Other than transfering the messages as a giant
>text file - are there any other suggestions?

I wrote a program to convert Eudora mailboxes to zip files; it is freeware on
my web page (it needs PKZIP which is not included and it is a DOS pgm).
You can use PKUNZIP or any of several zip browsers on the palmtop.

I also have a freeware DOS RPN 64-bit hex calculator on the same page.

URL in signature.

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> Okay, this is slightly off topic, but...
> I read somewhere (although I cannot remember where) that the 0-286 is
> actually faster than the 386+ because the instructions are only 16bit
> long. This would mean that a 286-16 would be noticeably faster than a
> 386-16. This was hearsay, so can anyone confirm/deny? Perhaps this is the
> reason that there has been some reports of the LX being almost as fast as
> a 486 when doing some tasks (someone mentioned that TeX ran very fast).

Interesting point! memory management has to cause a little overhead
at some point

But I tend to think a big reason is that *everything* is on a fast RAM
disk (ie the C drive) - whereas TeX on a 486 will be accessing various
files on the hard drive like mad

More generally, Window95 has *lots* to do apart from working for you.


> > I've also gone slightly backwards for feel - I use a del alias on unix.
> As long as you don't "alias cd.. (cd ..)" :)

Hmmm, I just checked my aliases, and...
        alias cd.. "cd .."


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>Get hold of an old MKS toolkit. At least the software tools in the old
>versions were *VERY* small and of *VERY* good quality.
>
>I stopped upgrading after version 3.1 as I started getting the feeling


How about some pointer to where to get this old version of MKS toolkit?

Thanks,

            Yi

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> >> Tell me, is that Korn shell any good?

> Get hold of an old MKS toolkit. At least the software tools in the old
> versions were *VERY* small and of *VERY* good quality.

> I should add that I am actually not running the MKS Toolkit on the LX
Why not? Speed? Memory? Or you just don't do that sort of thing on
the palmtop?


> The shell alone is 74K. You can add as many or as few of your favourite
> utilities as you like.
This sounds excellently cool.

> I cannot imagine LaTeX to run fast on an LX.
It does boggle one, doesn't it?
But is LaTeX so much worse than TeX - which is reputed to run?


And a big "Me Too" for a pointer to these old versions, if avail.

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>Does anyone have a FAQ section of testimonials, where the hplx was
>really useful? I don't mean cute, or cool, or fun; but where it really
>made a difference? No need to hype it all; but the facts.

Well for starters, the 200LX makes a difference anywhere it is applied.  I
don't mean to sound to generic, but that's about the size of it.  It can be
used in process control, portable data logging, communications (internet and
as a terminal), or just whatever you feel like doing.

HP does maintain one story of the use of its 200 - Coca-Cola Brazil (or S.A.,
or whatever they call it) bought 1500 palmtops and issued them to their sales
people.  Apparently, it was like switching from a horse to a Ferrari, coming
from their old paper/fax/voice system.

I don't know.  But I used mine for word processing and software development,
as well as for bookkeeping.

Happy new year...
Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
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I'm curious about the extent of interest in unix tools on the palmtop.


A big part of the reason is familiarity - you want to use the same
tools, regardless of platform.

Another reason is that unix is text-based and efficient - as is the hp200lx.

And finally, unix tools were written by clever people, they have
evolved and stood the test of time, and they are (generally) part of
the freeware gift-economy.


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Date:         Wed, 31 Dec 1997 14:22:20 +1100
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> But I used mine for word processing and software development,
> as well as for bookkeeping.

I too use mine for word processing and software development; also
as a midi-device player. But, it's really only for my own convenience -
I like to work in cafes (with access to strong espresso). But I think
this is more a lifestyle choice than 'useful'.

Hmmmm - a cool piece of sequencer software could really be a huge market
for it, actually... you want portability...



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hp200lx: It's not a car, it's a cult.
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For you fellow palmtoppers who want ppp email capabilities without using
Nettamer, I've finally come-up with a combination that works great for
me! I'm using etherppp for a packet driver and popmail for dos. Both
utilities are available at www.agate.net/~tvdog/internet.html

Popmail even has a built-in telnet terminal window, ping utility and IP
lookup function and best of all it fits VERY comfortably on my 2MB 200LX.
Today is the first day that I've used it but it seems to work great so
far. It's nice to be able to retrieve email from ppp servers such as
bigfoot.com and hotmail.com that don't have dial-up access. If anybody
wants more info just drop me a line!


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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At 02:12 PM 12/31/97 +1100, you wrote:
>I'm curious about the extent of interest in unix tools on the palmtop.

>A big part of the reason is familiarity - you want to use the same
>tools, regardless of platform.

Yes.

>Another reason is that unix is text-based and efficient - as is the hp200lx.

Yes.

>And finally, unix tools were written by clever people, they have
>evolved and stood the test of time, and they are (generally) part of
>the freeware gift-economy.

Yes.  Although, since they don't need marketing to survive, they get a lot of
weird names (bash and gimp come to mind.)  On the other hand, the 200 doesn't
get any marketing either.  I'm sure we'd fit right in to the Unix crowd.

I for one would be _very_ interested in bash.  For non-Unix people, it's 4DOS
on steroids.  Lots of steroids.  I don't know how big it is, but it would be
a lot nicer to have than the Krap shell or Command.  Anyway, I would have bash
running on all my systems but I don't have any idea whether it exists for DOS.

>"I get knocked down But I get up again You're never gonna keep me down"

A local radio station had an interesting and thought provoking discussion
about the line, "pissin' the night away", which in the interest of taste
I won't discuss here. ;)
Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
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>I don't know.  But I used mine for word processing and software
development,
>as well as for bookkeeping.

Kind of hard to do word processing on that small keyboard.
Sure, software development if you still use C and assembly.

Who doesn't use C++ or Java with multiple windows open on a big 21 inch
monitor these days (for software development)?  =)

            Yi

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These are available in Simtel:

4dos552.zip   B  531614  960423  4DOS command processor v5.52 4-17-96 rel.
csh4.zip      B   45231  890107  Unix csh -like shell v4.0, w/C source
cshel131.zip  B   36138  890326  C-Shell for MS-DOS, some features of UNIX
pschel35.zip  B   36693  861002  PC-Shell: UNIX System V-like csh for MS-DOS
sh1-111.zip   B   80565  871027  Unix-like DOS shell with novel features
tvdsh171.zip  B   20344  950220  Unix-like shell, DOSKEY/recall/mouse/cut-paste


Ian Butler wrote:

> At 02:12 PM 12/31/97 +1100, you wrote:
> >Another reason is that unix is text-based and efficient - as is the hp200lx.
>
> Yes.
> I for one would be _very_ interested in bash.  For non-Unix people, it's 4DOS
> on steroids.  Lots of steroids.  I don't know how big it is, but it would be
> a lot nicer to have than the Krap shell or Command.  Anyway, I would have bash
> running on all my systems but I don't have any idea whether it exists for DOS.

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Sure, I should know better, but I must respond to this troll... :)


> Sure, software development if you still use C and assembly.

But C++ is available; in fact, I have it on my palmtop as we speak. Java
is being developed for DOS (though not for the XT...)


> Who doesn't use C++ or Java with multiple windows open on a big 21 inch
> monitor these days (for software development)?  =)

I don't. I don't work in a cubical either.


MONITOR
I'm writing up my masters thesis (due today) on a slightly bigger (22 inch,
I think) monitor, which I've had for the last three years...

...but *all* the development was done on the hp200lx in cafes... and in
C, because it is simply better for the experimental work I was doing;
using information theory, compression and conditional probability on
melody.  You can try out ideas whereever you are - this is handy if you
get out a lot; you can easily show someone what you are up to. Few
scientists are lucky enough to have a laboratory that fits in a pocket...


C++ or JAVA
Java & C++ may be better for multi-person projects, that are strongly
GUI based, and where the problem is well-understood - and hopefully
largely based on reuse of existing code.

Basically, C++ and Java are great if you are not doing anything new; but
just want it to *look* new. And rather than cutting to the heart of the
problem, you just throw more resources at it: Windows 95 and Word are
such examples of C++, I understand.

Personally, I find doing the same old thing over and over again pretty
boring.  YMMV.  On the other hand, graphic design of GUI's can be a lot
of fun; but it's not programming...

BTW Java is *massively* inefficient. Only really good for remote GUIs,
and marketing at present.


MULTI-WINDOWS
As for multi-windows; well, they *are* pretty helpful, but 6 does quick
file changes in vi; and Vim's tag support eliminates the most of the need
of seeing many files open at once (though it does also have multi-windows.)
But for me, I work better by writing things down on paper (did you know
that you read monitor text 75% as fast as printed text? LCD is faster than
conventional monitors, I believe)



The hype surrounding Java and C++ can be reassuring; but don't believe it.
And don't sell the hp200lx short. It's incredible.


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Date:         Wed, 31 Dec 1997 00:42:14 -0500
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Does anyone know if it is possible to receive Lotus Notes e-mail on an HP
200LX?   I know that IBM/Lotus is working on doing this for the
PalmPilot.....just wondered if anyone's been successful doing it with the
HP200LX?  Don't want to have to shelve the HP unit for the latest whizbang
gizmo on the market.

Thanks...Jim Johnson
Carmel, Indiana
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Yi Wang wrote:

> Kind of hard to do word processing on that small keyboard.
> Sure, software development if you still use C and assembly.
> Who doesn't use C++ or Java with multiple windows open on a big 21 inch
> monitor these days (for software development)?  =)


Word processing isn't so difficult on the small keyboard.  Over the past
week I had my double-speed 200LX down and I was using a single-speed unit.
It made me realize just how processor-dependent your typing speed is.  I
could type 70 wpm on the keyboard on my double-speed unit.  On the
single-speed, it was continually lagging behind me.  I had to slow down and
let it keep up.  That's one of the main reasons I can think of to get a
speed upgrade: easier typing.
And I use C++ on the palmtop all the time.  Borland C++ 2.0 and Turbo C++
1.01 both work quite well.  Although the giant, slow IDE editors have been
removed and replaced with PalEdit and a batch file.  :-)
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> > Kind of hard to do word processing on that small keyboard.
>
> could type 70 wpm on the keyboard on my double-speed unit.  On the
> single-speed, it was continually lagging behind me.  I had to slow down and
> let it keep up.

What can I say?
        (a) great typing
        (b) bad software

If a 7,000,000+ cycle per second processor can't handle 420 events per
minute (assunming ave word length of 5); that's 7 events per second,
there is something seriously wrong. What's it doing in those 1,000,000
cycles per event? You're not using a microsoft editor, by any chance? ;)

But to my astonishment, I just tried typing randomly at the DOS prompt,
to my amazement, I too could get ahead of the text!

However, in my editor (calvin, a vi clone, small and nimble) it was
impossible for me to get ahead, even bashing the keyboard. Have
you considered installing calvin on your single-speed?


Another suggestion (if editor familiarity is more important) is to
install a TRS, 256key, which expands the keyboard buffer to 256
keypresses - then, you may get ahead, but won't have to pause so
often!


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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> What can I say?
>         (a) great typing
>         (b) bad software
>
> If a 7,000,000+ cycle per second processor can't handle 420 events per
> minute (assunming ave word length of 5); that's 7 events per second,
> there is something seriously wrong. What's it doing in those 1,000,000
> cycles per event? You're not using a microsoft editor, by any chance? ;)

Mmm... no, this was in the note taker, and also the memo editor.


> But to my astonishment, I just tried typing randomly at the DOS prompt,
> to my amazement, I too could get ahead of the text!

> However, in my editor (calvin, a vi clone, small and nimble) it was
> impossible for me to get ahead, even bashing the keyboard. Have
> you considered installing calvin on your single-speed?

Well, now that my 2x is back, I don't need to.  It can keep up with me again.
:-)


> Another suggestion (if editor familiarity is more important) is to
> install a TRS, 256key, which expands the keyboard buffer to 256
> keypresses - then, you may get ahead, but won't have to pause so
> often!

You know, I tried to change the keyboard repeat rate once, with Norton Utilities,
but it said "The repeat rate on this computer cannot be modified."  I assume this
must be because the keyboard is different from a standard desktop keyboard.  I've
never tried a buffer expander, though...


> "I get knocked down But I get up again You're never gonna keep me down"

Not sure what song this is from, but I've heard it on the radio.  Seems
appropriate for the 200LX after the release of the Windows CE devices.  :-D
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Date:         Tue, 30 Dec 1997 23:39:21 -0800
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              John Stafford <johnws@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Has anyone tried a Geofox-One (only available ordered direct).  It
uses the Psion EPOC32 O/S, has backlight, 13.6 oz, reasonable
claimed battery life, and a fair set of built-in apps (the web browser
is only html 3.2 though).  I know nothing more about it than having
stumbled across their web page www.geofox.com this evening; the
price seems reasonable (but I'd like to hear from someone who has
used one).

John Stafford -- http://pw2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.html --
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On 1997-12-30 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to 126479bp@student.eur.nl
   >If anyone is interested in a utility to transfer apppointments and
   >tasks from Outlook to HP-100/200, please give me an email. If there
   >is sufficient interest I will send to SUPER or if not will send to
   >individual users. Right now it is one way only (outlook to HP) and
   >does not do repeating appointments as repeating appointments - each
   >one is treated as its own event - I still am working on it though!
   >(grin).
   >I hope everyone had a happy holiday and wish you all a properous new
   >year!
   >Brian
What kind of utility is this. Does it run on the PC or th HP? What is the
size of it to download? Where can I download it?

greetings,
Bas Pruijn

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Mitchell B. Hamm wrote:
>
> >> month so things are OK for now. Problem is, there're not too many businesses
> >> left to advertise on the site. :(
> >
> >Well, there's HP....
>
> Oh, I can see this one now!
>
> ME: Hi, I'm Mitch Hamm and I run a website devoted to your 100/200LX palmtop
> computers.
>
> HP: Our what?
>
> :)
>
> Mitch

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How I can put a Latex2e environment on my hp200lx.
Please help me, I'm not so "guru" to do it myself :(

                HELP ME!
                Raffaele Gaioni
                Happy new year !!!

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Hello HPLX users,

I've a HP 700 LX just for 3 days and now
this system has crached.

(i was try'ng to use a pcmcia modem card 28k8 Xircom and
i had to reboot serveral times )

Now it looks that my file system is corrupt
I can't delete a directory named QUICKEN when I want to delete
this DIR it says no such file or directory, but it is named in the filer.

Does anyone know how to clean this dir (on the C drive)

the other problems ar the th icons on the program-manager dont look
as they should look :(

I also cant remove those icons from the program-manager
does anyone know which file I've to edit to clean the mess up.

Thanks in advance

Happy Newyear
(here in Amsterdam 12 hours to go from now)

Greetings

= eelco van kesteren=

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Date:         Wed, 31 Dec 1997 21:31:16 +1100
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>
>
> How I can put a Latex2e environment on my hp200lx.
> Please help me, I'm not so "guru" to do it myself :(
>
>                 HELP ME!
>                 Raffaele Gaioni
>                 Happy new year !!!

You know not what you ask!!
First, you need TeX - it probably installs itself OK (get it from SimTel)

Second, you'll need meta-font.

Third, you need LaTeX - I'm not sure where this is


BUT you'll need *lots* of memory, and I think it will be slow. An alternative
solution to your problem would be a better bet (even if desparate!).
Relax a bit, and see if the problem can be solved in some other way...

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Date:         Wed, 31 Dec 1997 22:33:17 +1100
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> I've a HP 700 LX just for 3 days and now this system has crached.
>
> (i was try'ng to use a pcmcia modem card 28k8 Xircom and
> i had to reboot serveral times )
Make sure you have enough power coming in: ie use the power adapter,
or really fresh alkalines. The modem uses up batteries really fast!



> Now it looks that my file system is corrupt
> I can't delete a directory named QUICKEN when I want to delete
> this DIR it says no such file or directory, but it is named in the filer.
The QUICKEN directory is where the built-in application 'Pocket Quicken'
stores its files. Don't try to delete it! Same goes for the _DAT
directory.


> the other problems ar the th icons on the program-manager dont look
> as they should look :(
This sounds very serious!

Assuming you want to start from fresh all over again, and lose
everything in memory, so that the machine becomes just like it was
when you first bought it; and you are really, really sure, do this:

WIPE IT'S MIND: This is the LAST DITCH solution:

        SHIFT + CONTROL + ON
        (I think you may have to use the LEFT shift key)

When it asks you if you want to initialise the RAM, say yes.

There! It's mind is wiped!

> Happy Newyear
> (here in Amsterdam 12 hours to go from now)
1.5 hours from here, Melbourne, Australia


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Date:         Wed, 31 Dec 1997 06:42:55 -0500
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Hi Brian,

Count me in for that converter of outlook to appointment.

Richard

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> This sounds very serious!
>
> Assuming you want to start from fresh all over again, and lose
>
> WIPE IT'S MIND: This is the LAST DITCH solution:
>
>         SHIFT + CONTROL + ON

Thanks, it worked perfect ! that is just what i needed

A new start with a clean C:drive

thanks

= eelco

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On 1997-12-31 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
 HP>Hello HPLX users,
 HP>I've a HP 700 LX just for 3 days and now
 HP>this system has crashed.
 HP>I also cant remove those icons from the program-manager
 HP>does anyone know which file I've to edit to clean the mess up.
My 2 cents of thoughts, Icons from programs which are on the chip cannot be
deleted. Quicken is one of those programs. So don't try. As you surely have
already a backup of all the files that you have transferred to your C: drive
I would suggest to make a hard reset and as answer on the question if you
want to "initialize Ram Disk" answer that with Y. That will erase everything
from your C: drive. See your manual under "rebooting the system"
Wish you luck.


Nothing is illegal until you get caught.

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On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, Yi Wang wrote:

> >Get hold of an old MKS toolkit. At least the software tools in the old
> >versions were *VERY* small and of *VERY* good quality.
> >
> >I stopped upgrading after version 3.1 as I started getting the feeling
>
>
> How about some pointer to where to get this old version of MKS toolkit?

I cannot help you with the MKS version, but there is Korn shell availiable
fron Garbo (ms_sh23b.zip in /unix). The zip is 800kb large but don't let
that put you off. The size is so large because it includes versions for
OS2, NT, and others as well. Remove the others and the shell is ~200kb.
Remember to have EMS or some swapspace on C: - it eats 200kb of memory as
well, which is then swapped out. Although I'm no judge of shells it does
seem to be a solid and comprehenve version. It is free and comes with
source. Be sure to grab a version of less (also somewhere on Garbo) so you
can read the included man-page. (And if you want to do anything with the
shell, you'll probably need a few unix utils as well - ls, rm, etc.)

Regards,


Laust

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Text of message from jjohnson@TMCC.COM, 31 Dec 1997, 12:42 AM
> Does anyone know if it is possible to receive Lotus Notes e-mail on an
> HP 200LX?   I know that IBM/Lotus is working on doing this for the
> PalmPilot.....just wondered if anyone's been successful doing it with
> the HP200LX?  Don't want to have to shelve the HP unit for the latest
> whizbang gizmo on the market.

I'd also like to know, but my solution is to forward a copy of my Notes
mail messages to an internet address where I can pick them up using the
DataComm application (unix login) or WWW/LX or Nettamer.

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Jeff wrote:
>
> For you fellow palmtoppers who want ppp email capabilities without using
> Nettamer, I've finally come-up with a combination that works great for
> me! I'm using etherppp for a packet driver and popmail for dos. Both
> utilities are available at www.agate.net/~tvdog/internet.html
>
> Popmail even has a built-in telnet terminal window, ping utility and IP
>SNIP


Could you sen dme specifics of how you set it up? How much space does it
really take?

                                Brenda

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David Sargeant wrote:
SNIP
> Although the giant, slow IDE editors have been
> removed and replaced with PalEdit and a batch file.  :-)

Could you sen dme the batch file and configuration info for PALedit?


                                        Brenda

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>Basically, C++ and Java are great if you are not doing anything new; but=

>just want it to *look* new. And rather than cutting to the heart of the
>problem, you just throw more resources at it: Windows 95 and Word are
>such examples of C++, I understand.

Ah, you had me fooled for a while - I got it now: the US of A has the
equivalent of the Aprils fools day on New Years Day?

This is, however, not the place for a discussion on software development.=


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Date:         Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:33:04 -0600
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Hello.
I know that the palmtop-specific version of Software Carousel is a great
program, and I should try to support LX software, but the price for this
program ($70) is WAY more than I can afford, considering that I wouldn't
use it a whole lot and I only paid $200 for the paltmop itself (used, of
course).

SO...
Has anyone gotten the DOS version of SC to work on the LX?  I have asked a
couple of folks so far, and they both said that it was no-go.  Anyone else
have better luck with this setup?  I don't need to run multiple
SysManagers; I just want to sometimes be able to run a couple of DOS
programs at once.

Any help is appreciated.
J. P. Grenert
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Date:         Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:58:40 -0500
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>Do you know where to find the older versions of MKS toolkit?

I have looked: www.mks.com or email sales@mks.com.

There was a heavy smell of W95, NT and OS/2 around their website. =

Better email first to make sure the DOS system still is for sale.

If they have abandoned it, try asking if it is now in the public domain.

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>How about some pointer to where to get this old version of MKS toolkit?

MKS is a canadian company (not shareware) specializing in software tools
for DOS and Windows why can't I find that kind of work in the UK?. They=

must have a website in Canada (they do in the UK: www.mks.co.uk, I think)=
=2E

Re MKS shell: The shell I have cannot match the shells in Linux. But it i=
s
very stable, vastly smaller and part of a great set of utilities.

Jorgen
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Don't ask me to explain it, but I have noticed in our children's
literacy program (PS/2 286,386,486) that the fastest computers seem
to be the lowly 1meg 286-16's. this is using  the same programs
(Win3.1, various educ., Print Shop).
As far as the HP vs. a 486, I agree that a large portion of the
speed is due to the configuration i.e. no hard disk to access/
spool, etc.

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Date:         Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:55:57 -0600
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Hello!
I would like to put in a plug for LXSTAT.  This is an outstanding
freeware utility that allows you to adjust just about any setting on the
LX, including:
Auto-power-off time
Screen contrast
Serial port on/off
Speaker off/on/volume
...much more!

It has allowed me to replace a lot of simpler utilities.  I have no
connection to this program except as a very happy user.  It is available
via FTP from Eddie at:
ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/hp95lx/NEW/lxstat.zip

While I'm on the topic of plugs, I have updated my JPICONS file with some
new icons, including HisWord and Word Perfect.  Check it out on the SUPER
site!
http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html
I DO have a connection with this program :)

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
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Date:         Wed, 31 Dec 1997 12:09:27 -0500
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Phenix,Bryan PYR wrote:

> Anyone know of some way or some good software that allows a person to
> turn off the feature which times out the HP after a while?  I'd like to
> use mine to log some data so the unit can't turn itself off after 3 ro 5
> minutes of no input.
>
> Thanks
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Hi Bryan :

There is a small, good utility program to set the time of power off the hp
200LX. It's easy to use and its freeware. I don't remember where I got it so
I sent you to your email.

best regards. Happy new year to all in the list !!!

Juan M. Alvarez C.
Bogot, Colombia.
jalvarez@multiphone.net.co

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Date:         Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:26:13 -0800
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Okay, I need some ideas here.  I returned my Silicom card because it
doesn't work with a double-speed 200LX, and got an Accton card instead.
However, I was able to use the Silicom card to log in to a Netware
server.  The Accton card says "Settings error!" when loading the driver,
but it will load anyway.  But I can't access the network.  Basically,
what I need is an ODI driver that will work with this card in the
200LX.  The packet driver works fine, and I can run Lanwatch to view
packets just wonderfully (on a double-speed unit, too!) but I need to be
able to log into the Netware server.  Anybody have any ideas?

Alternatively, does anybody have any ideas on how to transfer files
between the 200LX and a desktop computer with a network connection?  My
desktop is running Windows 95.  I'm thinking there might be some server
software that would allow me to log in and copy files.
Any ideas?
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>

  I'm definitely interested in seeing this utility!

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In a message dated 97-12-31 00:23:39 EST, Brendan write:

<<
 Sure, I should know better, but I must respond to this troll... :)
  >>

Excelent answer!  However, you forgot:

1.  The key-board is not all that bad.
       a.  I, for one, like it a lot better than the bigger keys used with the
wince machines.
        b.  Its a LOT quicker than writing things out in long hand, and then
still having to type it in once you get home.

2.  21" monitors have 2 serious drawbacks:
      a.  They really make your clothes droop, if you can even fit them in
your pockets.
      b.  They really eat up batteries.

             8-)

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Date:         Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:40:59 -0800
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Does anybody know where Rob Tillotson is...?  He had a pretty good 200LX
site up but it hasn't been updated since February 1, 1997.

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->Well, he paid through January and didn't ask for a refund on the unused
->month so things are OK for now. Problem is, there're not too many
->businesses left to advertise on the site. :(
->Things, they be a-changin'...

Have you tried HP?  They really would owe it to you after all you and the
rest of the HP palmtoppers have done for them.

Jeff


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-> This time, I got the warning, and actually waited for shutdown before
->swapping.  After I popped the fully charged pair in, I got the low
->battery warning every time I turned the machine on.  This in spite of
->the fact that the indicator showed the batteries to be at 75%.  I tried
->plugging in the adapter, resetting the machine (without reinitializing
->memory) and neither worked.

I have had a similar experience with my 200LX.  I would get a low battery
warning even when the Buddy indicator showed that the batteries (alkaline,
non rechargeables) were still good.  I gave up worrying about it and
simply changed batteries, but it has always perplexed me because I never
had that happen with my old 100LX at much lower battery levels.  Does the
200LX need higher power levels?  Is the warning level set differently?

Hope someone can explain it. <g>

Jeff

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For those of you who are interested in Unix on the HP200LX, has anyone
looked at "Minix"? Minix is not unix. However it is a Unix like OS that
will run on an XT and doesn't require a transinfinite amount of storage
space. If you want to know how memory is protected, read the book.

The latest "Operating Systems: Design and Implementation" by Tannenbaum
and Woodhull is out and includes a CD-ROM of Minix 2.0. Woodhull is
running the Minix web site with Minix. I forget the address but if
anyone cannot fine it, let me know.

I have run Minix 1.7 on an XT with 20 Mb. HD. It is a little hard to
imagine the HP200LX as a multiuser machine but I guess that it would
probably be possible even in only as demonstration.

Best regards and Happy New Year,

Art Borg

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Date:         Wed, 31 Dec 1997 19:46:12 -0900
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    Well, since I have received only one response to my previous plea
for help, and that response was based on an erroneous assumption; I
guess that I should repeat it before I bail out of this forum that fills
my mailbox with 10 or 20 useless items each day.

    I am trying to use Intellilink from PUMA Software to sync the Phone
Book in my HP-200LX with Daytimer-98. Since they produced the program,
one would think that PUMA would have the answer; however, PUMA's support
is worthless. I have PUMA's Intellilink version for the PalmPilot also,
and it works without a flaw.

    The 200LX is running Buddy and has a Seagate 5mb flash card as drive
A:, if that is any help.

    If this sync problem is not solved soon, the HP-200 with the Flash
Card will be up for sale...cheap. More details to follow.

    P.S. Yes, I know, "why would anyone want to use Daytimer and the
HP-200?" Well, I use Daytimer in the desktop so that I can print out
calendar and address pages for my wife's business Daytimer binder.

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