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Hi!

Anyone on this list which lives in Singapore, have a Singnet Account=
 and
using Post/LX in order to retrieve News Groups? I have not been able=
 to
connect to Singnet's News server for the last 5 weeks or so. This despite=
 of
re-installing WWW/LX & Post/LX, so I suspect that Singnet has changed=
 some
settings in their News server which the News program in Post/LX can't=
 handle.

Please send me a message if you have the same setup as me and inform=
 me if
you can get the News Groups or not. Singnet doesn't give me a proper=
 reply or
service, so I can forget them.

Thanks,

Jorgen

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|wallgren@singnet.com.sg |------------------------------------------------|
|wallgren@newspage.com.sg|Unlike fine wine, bottled-up emotions do not    |
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CNET announced that Compuserve will be going to a flat rate some time
this month. Unlimited will be $25.00 a month.

Regards,
Qman

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I have enjoyed this group and the sharing of information. Now it's my turn.

If any of you are interested in any Astronomy graphic files point your web browser to:

http://www.mich.com/~rbird2/palmsky.html

This is a hidden link available to only this group for now.

On this page you can download some of the graphic files I use on my HP100LX.

You will find moon maps, star finder (planisphere) views, Views from North, South, East, and West, and a detailed September 1997 map.

Most of  the maps are created for the northern hemisphere of the United States.

Check it out! The price is right - FREE.

Rodger

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> Anyone on this list which lives in Singapore, have a Singnet Account
>  and
> using Post/LX in order to retrieve News Groups?

Jorgen, no, I live in New Zealand and use ibm.net but that's
never stopped me<G>. I once had the exact same problem with an
old ISP here. Syddenly their newsserver was uncontactable -
whereas other folk could still contact it. It turned out they
had kindly *changed the IP address*. So I deleted

C:\_DAT\WWW.CAC

and... all was well again!

You have probably tried that already I suppose :(

Otherwise I am sure D&ASoft will be really interested to solve
this one - there is a way to get a big log file - put DL=3D47 in
the [NEWS] section of the CFG file, and I think the log will go
to the DEBUG folder.


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There are several adapters that come with the Connectivity Kit.
How can you tell what they are for?  Are some designed to
change the null modem back to a straight serial?  How can you tell?


At 11:49 AM 8/28/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I am using the HP cable with the HP combination gender/null adapter that
>comes with the connectivity kit.
>It works fine as a serial cable for connecting to a serial printer and my
>desktop with this adapter.
>Ron
> ----------
>From: David R. Birch
>To: TATHAM; HPLX-L
>Subject: Re: Thumbelina and Word5 for DOS
>Date: Thursday, August 28, 1997 11:29AM
>
>What kind of cable are you using?  The serial cable for the HP is also a
>null modem cable, so you need another null modem to switch the cable
>lines back to straight serial.
>
>David
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From:         Roy Stroud <Agentrapid@AOL.COM>
Subject:      mouse on hp200lx

anyone know how to do this ? with a thumbelina?or glidepoint. a textfile from
KevinL1022 was posted to the pda new text files around 1-08-96 but i can't
find and kevin is not having e-mail delivered right now. so if anybody has
info . super has a file to enable arrow keys for mouse simulation. i will try
that. thanks Roy

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Date:         Mon, 1 Sep 1997 11:55:26 -0700
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Sorry, I forgot the Eudora Lite version doesn't make the URLs clickable.
I'm using the full blown version of Eudora (version 3.0)

Netscape mail works, though.


At 05:45 AM 8/31/97 -1000, you wrote:
>Which version of Eudora are you using.  I'm using Eudora Lite and can't seem
>to get it to work the way you describe -- wish I could.
>
>Aloha - bob    \ooo_
>
>>Date:    Sat, 30 Aug 1997 11:28:40 -0700
>>From:    Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
>>Subject: Re: Hp200LX Programs
>>MIME-Version: 1.0
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>>
>>Give the full URL and don't put any punctuation marks (like colons),
>>next to it.
>>
>>For example, instead of just putting:
>>
>>    www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
>>
>>in your signature, you could put:
>>
>>   http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
>>
>>It doesn't work if you put a period, comma, colon, etc
>>next to the URL.
>>
>>Eudora (email reader) and Netscape's email reader both
>>show this link in a different color and make the link clickable
>>directly in email.    In Eurodra, if Netscape is not in memory,
>>Netscape will be fired up and will go to the URL that I clicked on.
>>
>>While Netscape is loading the site, I click back on Eudora and
>>continue reading other email.  Then later I switch back to Netscape
>>to take a look at the web site.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 09:05 AM 8/28/97 -0700, David R. Birch wrote:
>>>Can you tell me how to enter a WEB link into a message so it is
>>>"clickable?"
>>>
>>>David
>>
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From:         Vincent Mollimard <Vincent.Mollimard@ESSTIN.ESSTIN.U-NANCY.FR>
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Bill Gossage wrote:
>
> Are there any good DOS databases that run well on the 200LX?  I don't
> need relational, but want one with good reporting and more robust
> searching and subsets.
>
> I tried Paradox 4.5 and couldn't get in to run.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Bill

Bill,

You may try zephyr, available at
http://www.mabb.com/$webfile.send.DATASPRD./ZEPHYR4A.ZIP
http://www.mabb.com/$webfile.send.DATASPRD./ZEPHYR4B.ZIP
http://www.mabb.com/$webfile.send.DATASPRD./ZEPHYR4C.ZIP

it is compatible with fox pro 2 and designed for non programmer
it support:
   QBE and SQL
   25 open data bases
   255 indexes and 256 field per file

it takes around 2 meg space with the help file
The shareware fee is $50 + $5 ($10) shipping US (foreign).

if you want the readme.doc (42 Kbyte) in private e-mail, let me know.

Vincent.

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From:         "Tatham, Ronald" <TATHAM@BURKE.COM>
Subject:      Thumbleina now works on my HPLX

I tried loading the mouse driver in autoexec.bat and could never get it to
work.  This might be some function of using MaxDos  to load Word5.  However,
I discovered that I could load the mouse driver, turn in on, and access
word5 using a .bat file. The file ( call it word.bat)is:
C:
cd apmouse
apmouse ON
cd\
cd word5
word
cd\
cd apmouse
apmouse OFF
exit

The mouse driver is in directory apmouse.  It is the dos driver that comes
with the Thumbelina mouse.  I do not load it with autoexec.bat.  I only call
it in front of an application that will use it.  I turn it off (which
unloads it) immediately after use.  If I don't turn it off and exit after
quiting word5, my HP freezes up and I have to reboot.  However, by turning
it off and exiting, I go right back to the appmgr with no problem.  My
application icon is set up as:
Name: Word5
Path: c;\maxdos.com c:\word5\word.bat
Comments: (use upside down exclamation and question mark here)
Icon:
Hope is of use to the group.
Ron

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From:         "Tatham, Ronald" <TATHAM@BURKE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Connectivity kit null modem convert

the adapter that is marked 5181-6639 (in my kit it is the long skinny one -
male on both ends) changes the cable back to a straight serial cable with a
male fitting.  A couple of the others have symbols on them e.g. an outline
printer.  Thats about the best I can do from my limited us of the connectors
in the kit and I seem to have lost any documentation that may have come with
it.
Ron
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From: Philip Seyer
To: TATHAM; HPLX-L
Subject: Re: Thumbelina and Word5 for DOS
Date: Monday, September 01, 1997 2:35PM

There are several adapters that come with the Connectivity Kit.
How can you tell what they are for?  Are some designed to
change the null modem back to a straight serial?  How can you tell?


At 11:49 AM 8/28/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I am using the HP cable with the HP combination gender/null adapter that
>comes with the connectivity kit.
>It works fine as a serial cable for connecting to a serial printer and my
>desktop with this adapter.
>Ron
> ----------
>From: David R. Birch
>To: TATHAM; HPLX-L
>Subject: Re: Thumbelina and Word5 for DOS
>Date: Thursday, August 28, 1997 11:29AM
>
>What kind of cable are you using?  The serial cable for the HP is also a
>null modem cable, so you need another null modem to switch the cable
>lines back to straight serial.
>
>David
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From:         Jim Gonzalez <gonzalez@LADS.IS.LMCO.COM>
Subject:      Re: mouse on hp200lx
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Mon, 01 Sep 1997 14:38:40 EDT."
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Roy Stroud <Agentrapid@AOL.COM> wrote:

> anyone know how to do this ? with a thumbelina?or glidepoint. a textfile from
> KevinL1022 was posted to the pda new text files around 1-08-96 but i can't
> find and kevin is not having e-mail delivered right now. so if anybody has
> info . super has a file to enable arrow keys for mouse simulation. i will try
> that. thanks Roy

I successfully used a Cirque Glidepoint Touch 'n' Tap (Model 150), back
in February.  I used some combination of parts from the HP connector
kit, plus glide.exe (archived in tp2.exe on Cirque's driver page:

        http://www.glidepoint.com/driver.htm

It worked well enough with Fingerpaint.  PalDraw didn't appear to have
mouse support, so I set the whole thing aside.

                                -Jim.

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From:         Reed Kennedy <FireMage@USA.NET>
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 This was getting to little attention in the newsgroup, so I posted it here.
Lets give this guy our support!  He was talking about NO external battery
pack!!

E-mail him with happy messages at mdh2+@andrew.cmu.edu  (I don't know if the
+ should be there or not)  Lets get our palmtops backlight!!

Thanks,
Reed

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From: Michael D Hendricks <mdh2+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Date: Sunday, August 31, 1997 8:30 PM
Subject: Backlighting for HP*00LX



>Would anyone be interested in an upgrade to the HP*00LX palmtops that
>would provide it with backlighting capabilities such as those found on
>the Cassiopeia, and HP320LX.
>
>The cost of the upgrade would probably be around $100 but I can't know
>for sure until I see how large of an order I could make for the parts.
>
>Please post a message here if you would be interested.
>
>Mike
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YES, please count me in.

cpwong@tm.net.my

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Date: Sunday, August 31, 1997 8:30 PM
Subject: Backlighting for HP*00LX



>Would anyone be interested in an upgrade to the HP*00LX palmtops that
>would provide it with backlighting capabilities such as those found on
>the Cassiopeia, and HP320LX.
>
>The cost of the upgrade would probably be around $100 but I can't know
>for sure until I see how large of an order I could make for the parts.
>
>Please post a message here if you would be interested.
>
>Mike
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Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
>  This was getting to little attention in the newsgroup, so I posted it here.
> Lets give this guy our support!  He was talking about NO external battery
> pack!!
>
> E-mail him with happy messages at mdh2+@andrew.cmu.edu  (I don't know if the
> + should be there or not)  Lets get our palmtops backlight!!
>
> Thanks,
> Reed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael D Hendricks <mdh2+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
> Date: Sunday, August 31, 1997 8:30 PM
> Subject: Backlighting for HP*00LX
>
> >Would anyone be interested in an upgrade to the HP*00LX palmtops that
> >would provide it with backlighting capabilities such as those found on
> >the Cassiopeia, and HP320LX.
> >
> >The cost of the upgrade would probably be around $100 but I can't know
> >for sure until I see how large of an order I could make for the parts.
> >
> >Please post a message here if you would be interested.
> >
> >Mike
> >
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please count me in
thank very much

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Yes. I would be interested as long as it was cosmetically OK and didn't
involve an external power supply.


> From: C P Wong <cpwong@TM.NET.MY>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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> Date: Monday, September 01, 1997 10:59 PM
>
> YES, please count me in.
>
> cpwong@tm.net.my
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael D Hendricks <mdh2+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
> Date: Sunday, August 31, 1997 8:30 PM
> Subject: Backlighting for HP*00LX
>
>
>
> >Would anyone be interested in an upgrade to the HP*00LX palmtops that
> >would provide it with backlighting capabilities such as those found on
> >the Cassiopeia, and HP320LX.
> >
> >The cost of the upgrade would probably be around $100 but I can't know
> >for sure until I see how large of an order I could make for the parts.
> >
> >Please post a message here if you would be interested.
> >
> >Mike
> >
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Does anyone know how to get this card and it's packet driver to work? I got one of
these, and it is amazing! It uses only 0.05volt on the palmtop! I want to use this to get
onto the Unix server on campus. Any help is appreciated!

BTW, I tried the accton drivers; no luck.

Also, a good GSM/PCN/DCS 1800 modem is the Ericsson DC23 (landline and
cellular). It also takes only 0.05volts when placed in the HP as compared to other
landline modems which take over 0.2 - 0.6volts. The Megahertz 28.8 Landline+cellular
is a good example. Place it in, and the entire system hard hangs.
... Windows Error: 005 - Multitasking attempted.  System confused.

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Nicholas Chan wrote:

> Does anyone know how to get this card and it's packet driver to work? I got one of
> these, and it is amazing! It uses only 0.05volt on the palmtop! I want to use this to
> get
> onto the Unix server on campus. Any help is appreciated!
>
> BTW, I tried the accton drivers; no luck.

I don't think it can be done; it probably requires a level of Card and Socket Services
which the palmtop neither comes with nor has available.  If you do manage to get it to
work, let us know.

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To Mike Hendricks via Reed Kennedy,

The backlighting deal sounds great - please count me in!  I shall also
pass the message on to our local Users' Group.

Thanks,

Barry Collins
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Hi Micheal

Sure I am interested, but does this include international members,
why I'm asking, I live in South Africa and the question is if I buy the parts can I do the upgrade myself, or must I send my palmtop in to you, if so this would worry me knowing the postage system and packaging, I certainly would not like to lose my favorite toy.
If sending it to you, what sort of costs are we now talking about, if not what would the costs be. I know these are not easy questions considering this prospect is in its infancy, but sure this must be a consideration.

Thanks for this possibility
Waiting to here from you soon

John Fowler
john@gims.com


Centurion
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On Sun, 31 Aug 1997, Ignacio Garc=EDa P=E9rez wrote:

> Hi:
>=20
> As far as I know, the 200LX has two NiCd batteries charging mode: fast an=
d
> trickle. In the PAL library, I haven't been able to find a function for
> selecting the charging mode. Charge mode only allows to enable/disable
> charging, and BattFast tells if the battery if being fast-charged, but
> nothing to select fast/trickle.
>=20
> Can anybody help ?
>=20

=09Trickle recharging starts after 6 or 7 hours of 'fast' recharging ( I
don't remember it exactly now... look in the manual ), so, using PAL you mu=
st
make the charging time change to that time, and you will be using 'trickle'=
=20
recharging.=20

=09Doing a program to do that is quite easy, I made one for myself quite
a time ago... if you have any difficulty I can show you the source... :))


=09=09Bye,
=09=09=09=09Alberto

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Is it possible to import a Lotus 123 file to the built in database (for instance : address book) ?

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Datum: Mittwoch, 27. August 1997 08:13

 Save the Excel spreadsheet as a Lotus 123 file (wk1)

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At 11:20 2/09/97 +0200, you wrote:
>On Sun, 31 Aug 1997, Ignacio Garc=EDa P=E9rez wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>=20
>> As far as I know, the 200LX has two NiCd batteries charging mode: fast=
 and
>> trickle. In the PAL library, I haven't been able to find a function for
>> selecting the charging mode. Charge mode only allows to enable/disable
>> charging, and BattFast tells if the battery if being fast-charged, but
>> nothing to select fast/trickle.
>>=20
>> Can anybody help ?
>>=20
>
>       Trickle recharging starts after 6 or 7 hours of 'fast' recharging ( I
>don't remember it exactly now... look in the manual ), so, using PAL you=
 must
>make the charging time change to that time, and you will be using 'trickle'=
=20
>recharging.=20
>
>       Doing a program to do that is quite easy, I made one for myself quite
>a time ago... if you have any difficulty I can show you the source... :))

No, thanks. I managed to discover that just a few hours ago.

But found what at least is an undesired behaviour of the BattSetTime in the
PAL library. This function takes an int as an argument, then, internally,
it converts to long, do the required adjustment seconds/ticks and update
the timer.

So, the highest useable time is 32767 seconds. If you use 32768, this is
0x8000, that when converted to long is 0xFFFF8000, which is clearly an
incorrect value (and will make the timer overflow AND START FAST CHARGING
AGAIN after 0x7FFF seconds). If you use higher numbers, the overflow will
happen sooner.

I just don't know why those two functions (BattGetTimer and BattSetTimer)
don't deal with unsigned longs instead of integers, when the timer *IS* an
unsigned long number. I've modified them and sent a suggestion to the PAL
maintainer to do the same.

Saludos. Nacho.

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Tony Wallace wrote:
>
> Yes. I would be interested as long as it was cosmetically OK and didn't
> involve an external power supply.
>
> > From: C P Wong <cpwong@TM.NET.MY>
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Backlighting for HP*00LX
> > Date: Monday, September 01, 1997 10:59 PM
> >
> > YES, please count me in.
> >
> > cpwong@tm.net.my
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael D Hendricks <mdh2+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
> > Date: Sunday, August 31, 1997 8:30 PM
> > Subject: Backlighting for HP*00LX
> >
> >
> >
> > >Would anyone be interested in an upgrade to the HP*00LX palmtops that
> > >would provide it with backlighting capabilities such as those found on
> > >the Cassiopeia, and HP320LX.
> > >
> > >The cost of the upgrade would probably be around $100 but I can't know
> > >for sure until I see how large of an order I could make for the parts.
> > >
> > >Please post a message here if you would be interested.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >
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I'm in.

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How is this backlighting "upgrade" going to impact battery life?

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Can we keep the "Me, too" down on this list a bit?  I'm getting tired
of getting message after message that includes 60 lines of included
message and a "Me, too!" at the end.  If this sort of thing doesn't
stop, I'm going to have to drop the list.  I don't have the time or
space to read all that junk.

Other wise this list has been quite useful and I hope that we can
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Jaime Viehweg wrote:
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> Can we keep the "Me, too" down on this list a bit?  I'm getting tired
> of getting message after message that includes 60 lines of included
> message and a "Me, too!" at the end.  If this sort of thing doesn't
> stop, I'm going to have to drop the list.  I don't have the time or
> space to read all that junk.
>
> Other wise this list has been quite useful and I hope that we can
> get past this!
>
> jaime
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Subject:      Cellular PC Card modem and the palmtop
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I'm looking for a PC Card modem to use with my 200lx and Startac 6000e cell
phone that won't damage the palmtop.  22.8 or 33.6 would be preferable but
14.4 is fine.

Here's some power ratings I found out:

  Megahertz XJ1144 14.4 XJack - 130mA - Works fine on palmtop
  Megahertz XJ2288 28.8 XJack - 275mA - overheats the palmtop
  Megahertz XJ4336 33.6 Cell XJack - 160mA

I'm wondering if the XJ4336 is a potential possibility since it's close to
the rating the palmtop can handle (150mA according to the FAQ).  Has anyone
tried using it with a HP palmtop?  Are there any other possibilities out there?

Jeffrey Veiss (jsv@bms.com)                   PO Box 5200
Network Engineer                              Princeton, NJ 08543-5200
Corporate Telecommunications                  (609) 419-6141
Bristol-Myers Squibb, Inc.                    (609) 419-7110 (fax)

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>Jorgen, no, I live in New Zealand and use ibm.net but that's
>never stopped me<G>. I once had the exact same problem with an
>old ISP here. Syddenly their newsserver was uncontactable -
>whereas other folk could still contact it. It turned out they
>had kindly *changed the IP address*. So I deleted
>
>C:\_DAT\WWW.CAC
>
>and... all was well again!
>
>You have probably tried that already I suppose :(

Hi!

Since my e-mail & sufring worked, I never tried to delete WWW.CAC! It's=
 now
done and my News is working again- THANKS Tony!

Regards,

Jorgen

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     Hello,

     I have recently been evaluating both NetTamer and WWW/LX.  My short
     answer is: they both work.  If you are cost conscious and do not need
     as many features nor palmtop integration, you will be happy with
     NetTamer.  I have chosen to use WWW/LX because, although I am also
     cost conscious, the program was written for the palmtop and therefore
     is easier to use.  Simple things like Zoom and PAL menus and fonts
     make a difference.  WWW/LX also allows user input in a dialing script
     which is important to me since I use on-time passwords provided by
     SecureID.

     P.S. I recommend a memory upgrade or a PCMCIA modem with memory (such
     as ThinFax) if you plan on using your palmtop to go online. 2MB fills
     up quickly with email and news messages.

     Sincerely,
     Dennis Faucher
     Professional Services
     Hewlett-Packard Company
     Burlington, MA
     (617) 221-5090
     dennis_faucher@hp.com

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Subject:      Re: 3Com EtherLink III PCMCIA card
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I am working on writing a packet driver for it. I don't know how long
it's going to take me,  but as soon as I have a working beta, I'll let
everyone know.

BTW, I suspect that it uses more than 0.05 volts. When the card is put
into the PCMCIA slot, it resets itself, turning off the transceiver. Maybe
that's what you're seeing.

-Ryan

>
> Does anyone know how to get this card and it's packet driver to work? I got one of
> these, and it is amazing! It uses only 0.05volt on the palmtop! I want to use this to get
> onto the Unix server on campus. Any help is appreciated!
>
> BTW, I tried the accton drivers; no luck.
>
> Also, a good GSM/PCN/DCS 1800 modem is the Ericsson DC23 (landline and
> cellular). It also takes only 0.05volts when placed in the HP as compared to other
> landline modems which take over 0.2 - 0.6volts. The Megahertz 28.8 Landline+cellular
> is a good example. Place it in, and the entire system hard hangs.
> ... Windows Error: 005 - Multitasking attempted.  System confused.

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Subject:      Re: Opinion: NetTamer vs. WWW/LX
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On Tue, 2 Sep 1997, Dennis Faucher wrote:
<snip>
>      make a difference.  WWW/LX also allows user input in a dialing script
>      which is important to me since I use on-time passwords provided by
>      SecureID.

I got WWW/LX way back, and didn't see any way to provide user input during
dialing (or maybe I didn't look closely enough).

Is this a feature of the newer version (I'm running 1.0d)? Can you tell me
(us) how this feature works?  I have the same situation, a one-time
password per login.  Thanks.

- Longden

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From:         "Douglas V. Mashek" <ctmashdv@ECSS04.NSD.FMC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Using a Cisco 7000 Flash Card?
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Can you use the PCMCIA 2 slot adapter for modems and ethernet cards as
well, or just storage devices? Will it take a type III PCMCIA hard
drive?  Will it handle the 32 bit cards like the xircom 100BaseT card?
Will it handle other misc cards?  How is it connected to the system?

Thanks,
Doug


John Ramos writes:
 > I have tried a number of OEM cards, they're usually for loading updates to
 > the customers system. If it's Cisco, it's UNIX. The dos machines can't
 > handle the format. If you or a friend had a PCMCIA adapter for your PC, you
 > can drop to the dos level and reformat the disk unless it's read only.
 > It'll work fine after that.
 >
 > If anybody needs a PCMCIA 2 slot adapter for the PC, I have them brand new
 > in the box for $90. Latest software and supported by all popular OS. 3.5"
 > form factor, same size as a 3.5" floppy.
 >
 > JR
 >
 > At 04:17 PM 8/29/97 -0500, you wrote:
 > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
 > >
 > >I have a couple of flash cards that I would like to be able to use. They
 > >say (on the front):
 > >
 > >    CiscoSystems
 > >    FLASH
 > >    Intel Series 2+
 > >    16 Mbyte Memory Card
 > >
 > >As best as I can figure out, http://developer.intel.com/design/flcard
 > >describes this product.
 > >
 > >I asked this at the end of July and got a pointer to TRUEFSS.ZIP at
 > >http://www.ziplink.net/~maxm/omnigo/programs.html
 > >
 > >But, it did not work for me.
 > >
 > >Anyone else have a hint? Anyone else want to give it a try?
 > >
 > >Thanks
 > >
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 > >On loan to: Texas Instruments IS&S                   Fax: 972/818-6374
 > >TI EMail: JKane@ti.com          Voice: 972/575-4927  Fax: 972/575-4853
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     Longden and Group,

     WWW/LX has a "q=" option which accepts user input and sends it to the
     modem.  Here is how I implemented it in my script:

     [HP_NAM_Script]
     e=Initializing Modem
     m=
     s=\r
     w=5 OK
     e=Dialing
     d=
     s=\r
     w=75 Login:
     e=Logging in
     l=
     s=\r
     w=10 Password:
     e=Sending Password
     s=\r
     w=20 Enter next password:
     q=SecureID?
     s=\r
     w=20 MTU is
     e=Starting PPP
     s=PPP\r

     Glad to help.

     Sincerely,
     Dennis Faucher
     Professional Services
     Hewlett-Packard Company
     Burlington, MA
     (617) 221-5090
     dennis_faucher@hp.com

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I just my new replacement Viking 4MB 5 volt flash back today and it
still wouldn't work in my 100/LX.

I'm inclined to believe that a driver maybe needed before this card=

will work in the 100/lX. Any input|

The card is a:
4MB PCMCIA ATA 5V
# FL4M5VA


Looking forward to your replies,
Qman

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If you can call me, it would be a lot easier to explain.

John Ramos
408-377-8096

At 11:47 AM 9/2/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Can you use the PCMCIA 2 slot adapter for modems and ethernet cards as
>well, or just storage devices? Will it take a type III PCMCIA hard
>drive?  Will it handle the 32 bit cards like the xircom 100BaseT card?
>Will it handle other misc cards?  How is it connected to the system?
>
>Thanks,
>Doug
>
>
>John Ramos writes:
> > I have tried a number of OEM cards, they're usually for loading updates to
> > the customers system. If it's Cisco, it's UNIX. The dos machines can't
> > handle the format. If you or a friend had a PCMCIA adapter for your PC,
you
> > can drop to the dos level and reformat the disk unless it's read only.
> > It'll work fine after that.
> >
> > If anybody needs a PCMCIA 2 slot adapter for the PC, I have them brand new
> > in the box for $90. Latest software and supported by all popular OS. 3.5"
> > form factor, same size as a 3.5" floppy.
> >
> > JR
> >
> > At 04:17 PM 8/29/97 -0500, you wrote:
> > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > >
> > >I have a couple of flash cards that I would like to be able to use. They
> > >say (on the front):
> > >
> > >    CiscoSystems
> > >    FLASH
> > >    Intel Series 2+
> > >    16 Mbyte Memory Card
> > >
> > >As best as I can figure out, http://developer.intel.com/design/flcard
> > >describes this product.
> > >
> > >I asked this at the end of July and got a pointer to TRUEFSS.ZIP at
> > >http://www.ziplink.net/~maxm/omnigo/programs.html
> > >
> > >But, it did not work for me.
> > >
> > >Anyone else have a hint? Anyone else want to give it a try?
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
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> > >
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> > >On loan to: Texas Instruments IS&S                   Fax: 972/818-6374
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Subject:      Re: Latest IrDA drivers
Comments: cc: ncknight@PACIFIC.NET

Text of message from ncknight@PACIFIC.NET.SG, 30 Aug 1997, 11:54 AM
>[...]
>
> I would like to know if there is any applications/addons that might be
> useful for this IrDA device. The company I am contracted by has made an
> IrDA module to plug DIRECTLY into any printer for direct printing, and
> it's pretty good with the new drivers. I am looking into any other apps
> that I might be able to suggest to them.
>
> And finally, does anyone want this driver? If so, I can post it to
> SUPER, if I know how to.  ... Hand in hand with OS/2. Hell with NT

I would definitely be interested.  What would be the advantage over the
current IrDA drivers?  One thing that concerns me is that if I increase
the speed of my 200LX (through Times2Tech), nobody seems to be able to
verify that IrDA printing will still work.  Perhaps that could be
addressed in the newer version?

Also, there is a need to be able to print from DOS programs or Lotus.

Thanks.

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Thought this might interest many of you.

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If you'll notice, people, the original message was FORWARDED from
comp.sys.handhelds.  It's not doing any good to post your "Me, too!"
messages here.  Send them to mdh2@andrew.cmu.edu instead.

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Greg Smith wrote:

> How is this backlighting "upgrade" going to impact battery life?

Negatively, of course, the same as the speed upgrade and the memory
upgrade.  The question is, is it worth your battery life for being able
to flip on a light and use your palmtop anywhere?  I would suspect that
most if not all of us would rather have the backlighting available when
we need it, than the assurance that we will never use any extra battery
power to light the screen.  This is, of course, assuming that you can
turn the backlight on and off, which would have to be a feature for the
backlight to be feasible.  Then again, the only method currently used to
backlight 200LX's (electroluminescent panels inserted behind the screen)
requires that the backlight be on all the time to use the palmtop.
Otherwise, you can't see anything.  To fix THIS problem, you need to
peel the white sticker off the back of the LCD and replace it with a
transreflective sticker... which is why so few palmtops are backlit so
far.  It really is a very difficult undertaking.

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Just got off the line with Viking Tech Support and was told that the HP
palmtop's
(100 & 200LX )  bios is not true ATA compatible. So the Viking flash cards
would'nt work with them. I was told to see if I could get the bios
upgraded. Is this possible?


I could have sworn that, I read a thread here where someone was using a
Viking card on their palmtop. Strange! The card works fine in my wife's
Compaq C140. :(

Any input on this?
Looking forward to your replies,
Qman

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At 01:09 PM 9/2/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Just got off the line with Viking Tech Support and was told that the HP
>palmtop's
>(100 & 200LX )  bios is not true ATA compatible. So the Viking flash cards
>would'nt work with them. I was told to see if I could get the bios
>upgraded. Is this possible?
>
>
>I could have sworn that, I read a thread here where someone was using a
>Viking card on their palmtop. Strange! The card works fine in my wife's
>Compaq C140. :(
>
>Any input on this?
>Looking forward to your replies,
>Qman
>
I have a Viking 2 meg SRAM card that works fine with my 200.
So, I'm not sure what they mean.



Mark Sailer
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If I were you, just return that card and get something that is compatible.
I've used anything from 2 megs to 40 megs in the LX200 with no problem.

JR

At 04:28 PM 9/2/97 -0400, you wrote:
>At 01:09 PM 9/2/97 -0700, you wrote:
>>Just got off the line with Viking Tech Support and was told that the HP
>>palmtop's
>>(100 & 200LX )  bios is not true ATA compatible. So the Viking flash cards
>>would'nt work with them. I was told to see if I could get the bios
>>upgraded. Is this possible?
>>
>>
>>I could have sworn that, I read a thread here where someone was using a
>>Viking card on their palmtop. Strange! The card works fine in my wife's
>>Compaq C140. :(
>>
>>Any input on this?
>>Looking forward to your replies,
>>Qman
>>
>I have a Viking 2 meg SRAM card that works fine with my 200.
>So, I'm not sure what they mean.
>
>
>
>Mark Sailer
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There has been some speculation on this list about the cost for current WinCE users to upgrade to v2.0, when it comes out.

Philips has announced today that users who purchase a Velo 1 between September 2, 1997 and December 31, 1997 will get the Win CE v2.0 upgrade for free..  For all current Velo 1 owners, Philips will offer a Windows CE 2.0 upgrade for $99.99.

It is probably a good assumption that HP will follow Philip's lead, to a certain degree.
______________________________________________

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           9/2/97 6:44:14 PM EDT
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Re. ATA cards in 100LX:

>From my understanding, the 100LX has never been ATA compliant, and needs an
additional driver for ATA Cards to work on it. The 200LX, however, is ATA
compliant and does not need additional drivers.

The bios is in ROM, which is not upgradeable. However, you should be able to
find a DOS driver that works, with some luck.


Francois Ennesser

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Yes - I know we couldn't care less about wince but in response to Michael's
posting of the Velo upgrade info:

HP Announced to-day (hot my news via Business wire) that people buying
HP300 series HPCs can get a free ROM upgrade to WINCE 2.0. The ROMs will
ship in Dec 1997 and will then also be available to other people for USD
129. ROMs will be available until 28 Feb 1998. US readers of this list can
get further info via (800) 443-1254.

I checked HP's Web sites - no details there though the press release did
say that one could get further info there.

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IN>> I have just bought a HP200lx and i would like to have a game of chess for
IN>> it. Does anybody know of a shareware/freeware chess game (like gnu chess)?

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hi !

well...i have one, it's not a "pro" one, but, it do the work, i think
that it came with an issue of the "palmtop paper" a time ago.

it's very small, about 5k, and it's written in assembler (very strong
platform).

if you want it, please email me, and i'll send you a copy of the game.

i have also: casino, sokoban, and some very, very old, car games



regards



martin
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Try  Power Chess 5.3. It's shareware. For 30$. And it is powerful.=20
Don't know, where you can get it.

Jens


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On Tue, 2 Sep 1997, Quinton Jones JR wrote:

> Just got off the line with Viking Tech Support and was told that the HP
> palmtop's
> (100 & 200LX )  bios is not true ATA compatible. So the Viking flash cards
> would'nt work with them. I was told to see if I could get the bios
> upgraded. Is this possible?
>
>
> I could have sworn that, I read a thread here where someone was using a
> Viking card on their palmtop. Strange! The card works fine in my wife's
> Compaq C140. :(
>
> Any input on this?
> Looking forward to your replies,
> Qman
>
        I'm using a 8mb Viking ATA flashcard in my 4mb HP200, part #
9615343B-04, with no problems or drivers. I bought the Palmtop with the
card used. I have now compressed the card and of course am using drivers
for that.



Dave Sprinkle - dsprinkl@indiana.edu
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At 12:13 PM 9/2/97 -0400, you wrote:
>     Hello,
>
>     I have recently been evaluating both NetTamer and WWW/LX.  My short
>     answer is: they both work.  If you are cost conscious and do not need
>     as many features nor palmtop integration, you will be happy with
>     NetTamer.  I have chosen to use WWW/LX because, although I am also
>     cost conscious, the program was written for the palmtop and therefore
>     is easier to use.

Thanks for your advice.  Silly question, from a relatively new user of a
200LX:  when you browse web pages, how do you activate the links?  Without
a mouse, can you actually do this?  What do you do, tab around to the links
and then hit enter?  Does it work like that??  And how about the graphics -
pictures, etc. - do they show up?  And how well?

Thanks for your help.  I think it'd be great to be able to take full
internet capabilities with me when I'm traveling!  With your
recommendation, I'd probably spring for WWW/LX.  Can you recommend a good
modem?  I checked the LX users manual and they say you should call them to
get the latest list of recommended modems.  I'll do that, but I'd like to
hear your opinion as well!

Thanks,
Harris

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-> For all current Velo 1 owners, Philips will offer a Windows CE 2.0
->upgrade for $99.99.

Sounds like standard Windows behavior to me!  It takes many a $99.99 to
make several billions.

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>

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I sincerely hope that was a joke - not only did that "we'll miss you" sta=
tement
appear rude at first glance, you also included Jaime's _entire_ message, =

_including_ the server's signature, which is exactly what pissed her off =
in the
first place.

Beyond that, it seems to me that it is pointless to "me-too" a message =
_forwarded
from another group_!

Jaime - don't drop the list.  What if you or someone at Lucent comes up =
with a way
to make the 200 fast enough to compete with an Alpha?  Besides, a few hun=
dred
K of included text never hurt anyone. ;)

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
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> > stop, I'm going to have to drop the list.  I don't have the time or
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What about battery drain? What's it look like? What will it draw, how
much decrease in battery life? Would it use incandescent bulbs or LEDs?
(And, does anyone know if there are WHITE LEDs yet?)

Bob Aldrich

> >Would anyone be interested in an upgrade to the HP*00LX palmtops that
> >would provide it with backlighting capabilities such as those found on
> >the Cassiopeia, and HP320LX.
> >
> >The cost of the upgrade would probably be around $100 but I can't know
> >for sure until I see how large of an order I could make for the parts.

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> I would like to know if there is any applications/addons that might be
> useful for this IrDA device. The company I am contracted by has made an
> IrDA module to plug DIRECTLY into any printer for direct printing, and
> it's pretty good with the new drivers. I am looking into any other apps
> that I might be able to suggest to them.
>
> And finally, does anyone want this driver? If so, I can post it to
> SUPER, if I know how to.  ... Hand in hand with OS/2. Hell with NT

>I would definitely be interested.  What would be the advantage over the
>current IrDA drivers?
Newer, more optimised for Memo printouts. I have not tried any other outputs yet.

> One thing that concerns me is that if I increase
>the speed of my 200LX (through Times2Tech), nobody seems to be able to
>verify that IrDA printing will still work.  Perhaps that could be
>addressed in the newer version?
Hmmm..... I would need to see whether I can add in a 1x or 2x logic to the driver. I
thought that was supposed to be done by the timing driver from Times2Tech?

>Also, there is a need to be able to print from DOS programs or Lotus.
Please do try it and give me feedback, I do not have much time to test myself.
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>I am working on writing a packet driver for it. I don't know how long
Hey thanks man!

>it's going to take me,  but as soon as I have a working beta, I'll let
>everyone know.
Sure thing, I can hold onto this card!

>BTW, I suspect that it uses more than 0.05 volts. When the card is put
Maybe, but it's far more well behaved than Prolink/Megahertz/USR modems which
either suck 0.6 - 1.0volt or straight hard hang the system....

>into the PCMCIA slot, it resets itself, turning off the transceiver. Maybe
>that's what you're seeing.
I see the LED on the connector turn on. That seems to me that it works.

-Ryan

>
> Does anyone know how to get this card and it's packet driver to work? I got on
> these, and it is amazing! It uses only 0.05volt on the palmtop! I want to use
> onto the Unix server on campus. Any help is appreciated!

... If at first you don't succeed, work for Microsoft.

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>IN>> I have just bought a HP200lx and i would like to have a game of chess for
>IN>> it. Does anybody know of a shareware/freeware chess game (like gnu
>chess)?

>hi !
>
>well...i have one, it's not a "pro" one, but, it do the work, i think
>that it came with an issue of the "palmtop paper" a time ago.
>
>it's very small, about 5k, and it's written in assembler (very strong
>platform).
>
>if you want it, please email me, and i'll send you a copy of the game.
>
>i have also: casino, sokoban, and some very, very old, car games

Hi, I would like the chess game very much, I am not interested in other
games except if you have backgammon too.

thank you in advance
Kjeld Jensen

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Thats what I thought! But wasn't sure.

Thanks,
Qman

>From my understanding, the 100LX has never been ATA complaint,
and needs an
additional driver for ATA Cards to work on it. The 200LX,
however, is ATA
complaint and does not need additional drivers.

The bios is in ROM, which is not upgradeable. However, you
should be able to
find a DOS driver that works, with some luck.


Francois Ennesser

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On Tue, 2 Sep 1997, Jeff Malka wrote:

> -> For all current Velo 1 owners, Philips will offer a Windows CE 2.0
> ->upgrade for $99.99.
>
> Sounds like standard Windows behavior to me!  It takes many a $99.99 to
> make several billions.

I wonder if they guarantee compatibility with existing 3rd party apps
(what few there are), or whether the 2.0 upgrade will necessitate a few
app upgrades as well.

Anyone know what the users get (feature-wise) for their $100 upgrades?
Maybe a spreadsheet that can graph? Presumably it doesn't just fix bugs.

- Longden

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I know Alpha4, version 2.1 works well on the 200LX.

I have heard a rumor that Alpha4, versin 3 also does. Can anyone confirm
or deny this with authority (i.e., experience)?

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 Jim Saklad                                      mailto:jimdoc@iname.com

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Me too, I ... er ... I mean "I agree".

It isn't just these 'Me Too's but many people don't take the time to
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Hey folks, just include a line or two of the previous message, you don't
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<< From: "Jeffrey Veiss (CTG)" <jsv@BMS.COM>
   Subject:      Cellular PC Card modem and the palmtop

<<I'm looking for a PC Card modem to use with my 200lx and
Startac 6000e cell
phone that won't damage the palmtop.  22.8 or 33.6 would be
preferable but
14.4 is fine. >>

I use an Apex 33.6 - 138mAh draw. Works on some 6 phones out
of the package. Mine (DT22X) was not among them, but their Web
page had the proper program to do it. Works fine.

  (: Avi M. :) [D&A]

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  << From: Harris Paltrowitz <upstate@PIPELINE.COM>
     Subject:      Re: Opinion: NetTamer vs. WWW/LX >>

<<Silly question, from a relatively new user of a 200LX:
when you browse web pages, how do you activate the links?
Without a mouse, can you actually do this? >>

Not a silly question. You tab until the link changes color
then press enter. Don't let the MS marketing machine brainwash
you that life stops without a mouse or a Windows 95 machine!
;-)

<<  What do you do, tab around to the links and then hit
enter?  Does it work like that??  And how about the graphics
- pictures, etc. - do they show up?  And how well? >>

Yes. Yes, They show. As glorious as 4 colors on a CGA can show
graphics. HV (the HTML viewer program) is available as
freeware from our Web page at
ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/HV/hv.zip

Download a few of your favorties with another browser and save
the pages, then copy them over to the palmtop and fire up HV.
Make sure to d/l the graphics too, and you may have to adjust
references on the original docs you d/l.

<<  With your recommendation, I'd probably spring for
WWW/LX.>>

If you want it, I'll dig up the announcement text for WWW/LX
and Post/LX, (the email and newsgroups client program) so you
can be even more informedd before you spring :-)...

<< Can you recommend a good modem?>>

Max speed Palmtop can handle is about 14.4 (speed upgraded
modems can go a bit higher).

(disclosure: I am President and CEO of D&A, producer of WWW/LX
Plus. My opinions about this product are glowing <g>, for
obvious reasons, so take other people's opinions seriously
too!)

Best regards.

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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 << From: "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
    Subject:      Re: Opinion: NetTamer vs. WWW/LX

<<I got WWW/LX way back, and didn't see any way to provide
user input during dialing (or maybe I didn't look closely
enough).>>

Look in WWW/LX Manual in the section on commands for the
script. There is something called q=3D - if my memory is not
failing me <G>... Allows you to prompt and sends along
whatever you type in.

  (: Avi M. :) [D&A]

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<< From: Dennis Faucher <DENNIS_FAUCHER@HP-USA-OM11.OM.HP.COM>
   Subject:      Opinion: NetTamer vs. WWW/LX>>

<<  I have chosen to use WWW/LX because, although I am also
    cost conscious, the program was written for the palmtop
    and therefore is easier to use. >>

Blush!!! Thanks. <G>...

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Jorgen:

I see Tony gave you same advice, and it works.

<< Since my e-mail & sufring worked, I never tried to delete
WWW.CAC! It's now done and my News is working again- THANKS
Tony! >>

The IPs for these servers are different. Glad it works.

(Thanks, Tony!)

  (: Avi M. :) [D&A]

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There was an ACT for the LX200? Couldn't find it on Symantec's Web Site.

JR

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Jorgen:

<< Anyone on this list which lives in Singapore, have a
Singnet Account and using Post/LX in order to retrieve News
Groups? >>

I am not sure either what is going on. I'll pass along the
message to the author of News.exe (if he has not already seen
it!)

One quick possible fix: Delete WWW.CAC (to see where it is
located, view WWW.CFG and look for the location.)

I have just gotten on this list, and it seems VERY active.

  (: Avi M. :) [D&A]

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Hello,

Thanks for the information Dennis.  One addition I can offer is that
NetTamer does support user input in a dialing script--it's just not
documented.  I use SecureID as well and asked David Colston about this.
He sent me the following information:

1) You can use a script like this:

WAIT User:
Blast Username$
WAIT word:
Blast Password$
WAIT Id:
INPUT
DELAY 10
PPP

[end excerpt]

The INPUT command allows the user to enter interactive input
to the script.

I'm still trying to make the NetTamer vs WWW/LX decision so I appreciate
this discussion.

Regards,

Rich Seiter

>
> Date:    Tue, 2 Sep 1997 12:13:10 -0400
> From:    Dennis Faucher <DENNIS_FAUCHER@HP-USA-OM11.OM.HP.COM>
> Subject: Opinion: NetTamer vs. WWW/LX
>
>      Hello,
>
>      I have recently been evaluating both NetTamer and WWW/LX.  My short
>      answer is: they both work.  If you are cost conscious and do not need
>      as many features nor palmtop integration, you will be happy with
>      NetTamer.  I have chosen to use WWW/LX because, although I am also
>      cost conscious, the program was written for the palmtop and therefore
>      is easier to use.  Simple things like Zoom and PAL menus and fonts
>      make a difference.  WWW/LX also allows user input in a dialing script
>      which is important to me since I use on-time passwords provided by
>      SecureID.

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I'm also looking for a PCMCIA modem to use with my 200lx and Cell Phone
(would settle for a pocket modem if necessary).

My phone is a Motorola DPC 650.

Most of the cellular sales people in this area haven't had a great deal
of experience with the issue, so if anyone has a "tried and proven"
setup for the 200LX's and Motorola phones in general, that info would be
greatly appreciated.

The cable required to connect any Cellular compatible Modem and
Cell Phone also seems be an "optional accessory" that the providers here
don't normaly stock. (?) so, recommended 3rd party sources and part
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John,

The current version of ACT! runs on 95/100/200LX.  You might want to note that all displays are in 95LX mode, so each contact record has several screens.

There is no product info on ACT! that I could find at Symantec's web site.  All I could find is the ACT! HP v1.1.1 upgrade, which is on their FTP site, located in the ACT! DOS directory.

The v1.1.1 upgrade is a fully functional copy of ACT! HP.  But, you need to have a set of ACT! data files already in you ACT! directory for the program to run.  The program can not create these files on its own.

--- On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:41:24 -0700  John Ramos <MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET> wrote:

>There was an ACT for the LX200? Couldn't find it on Symantec's Web Site.
>
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 How reliable is the 200lx's PCMCIA slot and ejection mechanism?  That
 is, are "frequent" (more than 2/day) card insertions/removals OK?

 No problems -- just curious.  Previous comments re. bad hinge & latch
 design made me wonder.

--
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I tried the configuration below, and this is what I get:

c:\MAXFLASH> tformat a:
TFORMAT Version 3.2.12-SP (ES)
Copyright (C) M-Systems, 1992-1995

WARNING: All data on drive a: will be destroyed. Continue ? (Y/N)  y

Medium physical size is 2048 KBytes  (NOTE: the card is 16MB)
Boot-image size is 0 KBytes

Finished 2048 KBytes
Format failed. General failure

As can be seen, it kinda sorta works, but not really. The card is
truely a 16MB card. fdisk100 refuses to do anything with it. tinfo
thinks it is 2MB, as does tformat. tcheck thinks it is 2mb and will
attempt to fix the "broken" format on the card, but it too fails.

I have several of these cards. I would like to use at least one of
them. So far, no dice. I would be willing to send one to someone
who really knows they can get it to work.

Any more suggestions?

At 07:46 AM 8/31/97 +0200, you wrote:
>> > I asked this at the end of July and got a pointer to TRUEFSS.ZIP at
>> > http://www.ziplink.net/~maxm/omnigo/programs.html
>> >
>> > But, it did not work for me.
>> >
>> > Anyone else have a hint? Anyone else want to give it a try?
>
>
>
>  I use the TRUEFSS programs in my HP100LX with a  4Mb INTEL flash card
>with no problems.
>
> This is my config.sys:
>
> buffers=20
>files=50
>stacks=0,0
>rem dos=high
>shell=d:\dos\command.com d:\dos  /p
>device=c:\maxflash\tffs.com /drive=a /sice=4096
>
>
>
>My autoexec.bat
>echo off
>Rem
>Rem To customize DOS startup files, copy config.sys and
>Rem autoexec.bat from the D drive to the C drive and
>Rem edit the C drive versions to meet your needs.
>Rem
>Rem
>Rem Set prompt, path, and select C drive.
>Rem
>prompt $p$g
>path c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;a:\;a:
>c:
>Rem
>Rem Following assign enables referencing the plug-in card as
>Rem drive E (in addition to A).  Using E allows some programs
>Rem to run which refuse to run from a drive that is normally
>Rem associated with a floppy drive.x
>rem assign e:=a:
>Rem
>Rem Remove Rem from following cic100 line to load support
>Rem for PCMCIA modem cards.
>Rem
>Rem d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1
>Rem
>Rem Following 100 command starts the System Manager which
>Rem provides access to the built-in applications.
>Rem
>maxdos -l -wa:\max
>CLICK
>100
>maxdos -r
>
>I use the TFORMAT to format the FLASH card.
>and TCHECK as CHKDSK substitute.
>
>All is working OK , with any compatibility problems.
>
>(all programs are included in TRUEFSS.ZIP package, I first unzip it and
run
>install program  in my desktop PC, and then copy the suggested files to my
>HP100Lx)
>
>
>Best regards.
>EA3BKZ
>Salvador Caballe Micola
>salvador@caballe.com
>http://www.ctv.es/USERS/inradio/


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evd@GWIS.COM wrote:
>
>  How reliable is the 200lx's PCMCIA slot and ejection mechanism?  That
>  is, are "frequent" (more than 2/day) card insertions/removals OK?
>
> I eject my cards several times a day since I have RadioMail and an Allpoints wireless PC card.  I have had no problems with the ejection mechanism but the spring on the card slot door seems to be broken or worn out.  It doesn't close.  Not a problem for me, though, since I always have a card inserted.

JS

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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Viking 4MB Flash
Comments: cc: qman@earthlink.net

i have a viking ata flashcard which works very will in my hp200lx. the
designation on the back is "9610333-02 flash card".  on the front it just
says "viking components" at the top, and "flash card" at the bottom.  when i
bought it, it also had the designation, "PCMCIA ATA 5V FL4M5VA" somewhere or
other.

INTERESTING NOTE: i just checked the card in my wife's 100lx.  it does NOT
work there. other cards (a sram card, and an hp brand flash card) which do
work in the 100lx.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Text of message from ncknight@PACIFIC.NET.SG, 3 Sep 1997, 02:12 AM
>[...]
> > One thing that concerns me is that if I increase
> >the speed of my 200LX (through Times2Tech), nobody seems to be able to
> >verify that IrDA printing will still work.  Perhaps that could be
> >addressed in the newer version?
> Hmmm..... I would need to see whether I can add in a 1x or 2x logic to
> the driver. I thought that was supposed to be done by the timing driver
> from Times2Tech?

Mack tells me that he doesn't think the slow-down driver wil help because
it is a software-level fake-out slowdown (not his exact words).

I will try it, but I still want to know if anyone has used the IrDA with
the Times2 acceleration?

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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I'm looking for a version of Nethack that will run on my
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Rudy Moore mumbled something about ...
>
> I'm looking for a version of Nethack that will run on my
> 200LX.  Has anyone out there done this already?  the versions
> that exist that I've spotted easily are too big and require too
> much memory.

  You might try looking for a version called 'rogue'.  I forget where I
found it, but you should be able to find it on one of the HPLX sites.

> Thanks,
> Rudy

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I used Alpha IV version 3 for over a year.  Alpha IV try's to make
everything easy for nontechnical people.  It implements this by having
the user access all it's features via predefined menus.  I found this
very frustrating.  (The nontechnical types thought it was too hard
anyway)  I wish they would have included standard SQL.  All query
statements are limited to 255 characters.  Sometimes this is not enough
considering you have to use it's 'easy' proprietary script.
Additionally,  interfacing it's data with a Windows database was a pain
in the you-know-what.  However, this may be the case with most DOS based
database's.  In short, if you already know how to use Alpha products it
may be the best solution.  Otherwise, I'd find something better.

David Brady


Jim Saklad wrote:
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> I know Alpha4, version 2.1 works well on the 200LX.
>
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Does it sychronize well with the Windows version?

David Brady

mdstockr wrote:
>
> John,
>
> The current version of ACT! runs on 95/100/200LX.  You might want to note that all displays are in 95LX mode, so each contact record has several screens.
>
> There is no product info on ACT! that I could find at Symantec's web site.  All I could find is the ACT! HP v1.1.1 upgrade, which is on their FTP site, located in the ACT! DOS directory.
>
> The v1.1.1 upgrade is a fully functional copy of ACT! HP.  But, you need to have a set of ACT! data files already in you ACT! directory for the program to run.  The program can not create these files on its own.
>
> --- On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:41:24 -0700  John Ramos <MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET> wrote:
>
> >There was an ACT for the LX200? Couldn't find it on Symantec's Web Site.

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What are these programs?

Mark

At 10:57 AM 9/3/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Rudy Moore mumbled something about ...
>>
>> I'm looking for a version of Nethack that will run on my
>> 200LX.  Has anyone out there done this already?  the versions
>> that exist that I've spotted easily are too big and require too
>> much memory.
>
>  You might try looking for a version called 'rogue'.  I forget where I
>found it, but you should be able to find it on one of the HPLX sites.
>
>> Thanks,
>> Rudy
>
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Is there a PIM that will use the raw HPx00LX files without any conversion?
I'm getting tried of all these "sync" apps that don't work or don't carry
all the fields between the desktop PIM and the HP200 apps. Looking for
either a Windows program or a UNIX (SunOS or Solaris)program.

Anyone want to buy InteliLink 3.4.x (software and Manual) for $35
and ECCO 4.01 CD-ROM & Manuals for $55.

InteliLink 3.4.x will only support up to ECCO 3.x (It supports a ton of
other PIMs too. Email me for details) and PUMA is not developing any more
software for the HPx00LX line. They are now going after the WinCE machines.

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THINK I SAW IT IN THE EDUCALC CATALOG.

SPENCE K4KEP

mdstockr wrote:
>
> John,
>
> The current version of ACT! runs on 95/100/200LX.  You might want to note that all displays are in 95LX mode, so each contact record has several screens.
>
> There is no product info on ACT! that I could find at Symantec's web site.  All I could find is the ACT! HP v1.1.1 upgrade, which is on their FTP site, located in the ACT! DOS directory.
>
> The v1.1.1 upgrade is a fully functional copy of ACT! HP.  But, you need to have a set of ACT! data files already in you ACT! directory for the program to run.  The program can not create these files on its own.
>
> --- On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:41:24 -0700  John Ramos <MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET> wrote:
>
> >There was an ACT for the LX200? Couldn't find it on Symantec's Web Site.
> >
> -----------------End of Original Message-----------------
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YES!

If fact, I do most of may work on the desktop and then sync the data files with the HP.

ACT! HP seems to have about the same level of functionality as ACT Win. But, the ACT! HP user interface is weak.  It is difficult to determine how to call up some features without the manual.

Although I've been using ACT! Win for about 4 years, I just started using ACT! HP last week.  So, I'm still learning.

--- On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:21:32 -0700  David Brady <davbrady@concentric.net> wrote:

>Does it sychronize well with the Windows version?
>
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If you're looking for good sources of mail order PIM software, including ACT! HP, go to:

http://uvision.com/idx/SOFTWARE/PROJECT___TIME_MANAGEMENT/DOS/x.html

--- On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 16:09:28 -0400  "BOYD S. MINER" <k4kep@IX.NETCOM.COM> wrote:

>THINK I SAW IT IN THE EDUCALC CATALOG.
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     Hi!
     I have 3 20Mb Flash cards and one 6 Mb one and one Modem. Change them
     more then 5 time each and every day. in 2 years no problems. Just make
     sure your Palmtop is OFF.

     Helmut in Colorado


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 How reliable is the 200lx's PCMCIA slot and ejection mechanism?  That
 is, are "frequent" (more than 2/day) card insertions/removals OK?

 No problems -- just curious.  Previous comments re. bad hinge & latch
 design made me wonder.

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I think some people might be using the term "Volt" when they might mean
"Amp".  An electronic device such as a PCMCIA card "draws" current
(Amp), and operates within a range of potential called "Volt".  Please,
and I realize I might be nit picking here, try to keep your terms
correctly assigned to the phenomena you are trying to catalog.

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On the other hand, it's tough to measure either with the thingey in
the slot, unless one uses the battery monitor program to see by how
much the supply voltage drops when a particular card is installed...
Terminology still needs some work, but that's the way *I* would
determine whether or not a device dragged the supply down
enough to make the *LX function....

/mark
>
> I think some people might be using the term "Volt" when they might mean
> "Amp".  An electronic device such as a PCMCIA card "draws" current
> (Amp), and operates within a range of potential called "Volt".  Please,
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> correctly assigned to the phenomena you are trying to catalog.
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Helmut Grossinger wrote:

>      Hi!
>      I have 3 20Mb Flash cards and one 6 Mb one and one Modem. Change
> them
>      more then 5 time each and every day. in 2 years no problems. Just
> make
>      sure your Palmtop is OFF.

I've been hearing lately about how you aren't supposed to hot-swap with
the 200LX.  However, if any of you recall the bargain 15MB ram cards
that were being sold last year, they included a page on the LX series
that said it was not okay to hot-swap with the 100LX but it WAS okay
with the 200LX.  Were they just crazy, or is there some difference in
the machine hardware here?

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Phil Drummond wrote:

> I think some people might be using the term "Volt" when they might
> mean
> "Amp".  An electronic device such as a PCMCIA card "draws" current
> (Amp), and operates within a range of potential called "Volt".
> Please,
> and I realize I might be nit picking here, try to keep your terms
> correctly assigned to the phenomena you are trying to catalog.

I assume you're referring to the ethernet card that "only used 0.05
volts" when inserted.  That reading was probably taken from watching a
battery status (either LXPRO, ABC, or just in Setup) and seeing how much
it went down when the card was inserted.  Which is the only way I've
ever seen to tell how much power a card will use.  Does anybody know of
any other way to measure it?

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Rogue is a stupid game.  As such, it was widely cloned.  If you have ever
played Kroz or ZZT, it's like that except it isn't any fun.

Or at least that's my opinion.

I like to play ZZT on the 200 tho, I don't know where you can get it any
more, but it was produced by Epic Megagames.  AS FOR ALL YOU CHESS
PEOPLE, JUST GET AN ANSI DRIVER AND GNUCHESS FROM THE
GNUISH PROJECT.  Not really related to this thread, but one of my pet
peeves is getting 40 messages about people who can't find it. ;)

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

"P.S.  People like you ought to be shot." -- Myself

----------
> What are these programs?

> >> I'm looking for a version of Nethack that will run on my
> >> 200LX.  Has anyone out there done this already?  the versions
> >> that exist that I've spotted easily are too big and require too
> >> much memory.
> >
> >  You might try looking for a version called 'rogue'.  I forget where =
I
> >found it, but you should be able to find it on one of the HPLX sites.

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     Hi!
     I guess I am just a chicken and will not play Russian roulette. Also
     the manual says so.

     Helmut in Colorado

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Someone volunteered to email me the data files for ACT, can't remember who,
but yes, I'd love a set to look at.

John Ramos

>>
>> John,
>>
>> The current version of ACT! runs on 95/100/200LX.  You might want to
note that all displays are in 95LX mode, so each contact record has several
screens.
>>
>> There is no product info on ACT! that I could find at Symantec's web
site.  All I could find is the ACT! HP v1.1.1 upgrade, which is on their
FTP site, located in the ACT! DOS directory.
>>
>> The v1.1.1 upgrade is a fully functional copy of ACT! HP.  But, you need
to have a set of ACT! data files already in you ACT! directory for the
program to run.  The program can not create these files on its own.
>>
>> --- On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:41:24 -0700  John Ramos <MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET>
wrote:
>>
>> >There was an ACT for the LX200? Couldn't find it on Symantec's Web Site.
>> >
>> -----------------End of Original Message-----------------
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If anybody else wants to know where the ACT 1.1.1 upgrade is, here it
is.


<underline>http://service1.symantec.com/DISCUSS/SUPPORT/files.nsf/all?OpenView&Start=1&Count=1000&Expand=2.1.1#2.1.1

</underline>

JR


At 04:09 PM 9/3/97 -0400, you wrote:

>THINK I SAW IT IN THE EDUCALC CATALOG.

>

>SPENCE K4KEP

>

>mdstockr wrote:

>>

>> John,

>>

>> The current version of ACT! runs on 95/100/200LX.  You might want to
note that all displays are in 95LX mode, so each contact record has
several screens.

>>

>> There is no product info on ACT! that I could find at Symantec's web
site.  All I could find is the ACT! HP v1.1.1 upgrade, which is on their
FTP site, located in the ACT! DOS directory.

>>

>> The v1.1.1 upgrade is a fully functional copy of ACT! HP.  But, you
need to have a set of ACT! data files already in you ACT! directory for
the program to run.  The program can not create these files on its own.

>>

>> --- On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:41:24 -0700  John Ramos <<MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET>
wrote:

>>

>> >There was an ACT for the LX200? Couldn't find it on Symantec's Web
Site.

>> >

>> -----------------End of Original Message-----------------

>>

>> ______________________________________________

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>>   "Michael Stocker" <<mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>

>>            9/3/97 11:56:15 AM EDT

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Could anyone recommend a leather carrying case for the HP200LX? I'd like
to have one with some space for a notepad, pen, etc. If you're using one
like that, I'd like to hear from you. Thank you.


Ron

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I've been using a TimeBoss black leather for >5 years and it works great.

Originally bought it for a 95LX, use it every day and still looks like new.

It is designed so that you can use your 200LX while its in the case.

Closure is by magnetic clasp on a leather strap.

Pockets for credit cards, PCMCIA cards, notepad and calendar or checkbook.  Also includes pen loop.

When closed, it measures 4.25" wide x 7" deep x 1.5" thick.  This includes 200LX, pen, credit cards and receipts.

The only negative is you have to remove the HP to connect cable or AC adapter, or to insert PCMCIA card.

--- On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 18:49:03 -0400  Ron Zhang <rzhang@KOBC0000.DELCOELECT.COM> wrote:

>Could anyone recommend a leather carrying case for the HP200LX?

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My eject slide broke months ago for unclear reasons. It actually works
on a plastic pivot which is part of the lower case. The trouble was that
the assembly is held together by melting over the top of the plastic
post-a fairly flimsy arrangement, though I realize vertical space is at
a premium.

I fixed it by remelting it, together with a very thin washer. This
worked until recently, when I dropped the machine-for the first time-on
carpet from not too high. Everything else survived intact.

The electrical socket itself looks like it has no limits on
pluggability-omly the eject mechanism looks suspicious for failure.

You can get cards out with a good fingernail-I do, though it's not
elegant.

By the way, I haven't yet had the time to re-open and fix the machine.
Does anybody have any ideas about a better fix for the retention of the
slide mechanism on the pivot?

(My latch gave up recently too-this seems endemic. Otherwise the 200LX
has been a very reliable soldier.)

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On  3 Sep 97 at 6:40, Longden C. Loo wrote:

>>Anyone know what the users get (feature-wise) for their $100
upgrades? Maybe a spreadsheet that can graph? Presumably it
doesn't just fix bugs.<<

I was invited to beta version 2 WinCe. I signed up too
late for it. But the invitation and Microsoft web
page provided info on some of the new features.  They
included zoomable windows in PWord and PExcel, spell checking
in PWord, Pocket PowerPoint, and more.

My September column in _mobilis_ (not yet available) goes into
some of these things. The September issue of _mobilis_ will be
posted to the internet in a few days. The address:

http://www.volksware.com/mobilis

will always take you to links for the current issue or back
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> I've been hearing lately about how you aren't supposed to hot-swap with
> the 200LX.  However, if any of you recall the bargain 15MB ram cards
> that were being sold last year, they included a page on the LX series
> that said it was not okay to hot-swap with the 100LX but it WAS okay
> with the 200LX.  Were they just crazy, or is there some difference in
> the machine hardware here?

  Page 16 of the "FlashDisk Data Storage System User Manual" bu SanDisk
says: "Hot insertion is not supported on the the HP 100LX or 200LX. Always
turn off the HP 100LX or 200LX prior to card insertion or removal. Failure
to do so may cause the computer to reset causing loss of data".

  I personally try to not only take off the machine, but to also close all
applications under System Manager before swapping cards. Three seconds is
nothing compared to losing data. The hard part is to make it a good habit
<g>

Best regards,


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Where did you get this Timeboss case?  How much?

David

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Jagdesh Maraj wrote:

>   Page 16 of the "FlashDisk Data Storage System User Manual" bu SanDisk
> says: "Hot insertion is not supported on the the HP 100LX or 200LX. Always
> turn off the HP 100LX or 200LX prior to card insertion or removal. Failure
> to do so may cause the computer to reset causing loss of data".

Hmmm... anybody know exactly what sort of problems could occur if cards are hot-swapped?
I mean, besides removing a RAM card while you still have a file on the card open...
Personally, I do it all the time, and haven't had any problems.  I've even hot-swapped
JAMmed flash cards (set up as separate drives) with no problems.  But now I'm getting
nervous and have begun turning it off before pulling the card.  When I remember.

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Do you know how to get ahold of alpha 4?  Is there a trial version?

Paul

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Hi,
   As a Windows ACT user, I bought the ACT-HP version for keeping up while
travelling.  Big mistake.  First the interface is completely different from the
Windows version and second it only uses part of the screen because it was
designed for the HP-95LX.  The interface is just amazingly bad.  Instead I
bought Intellisync and use it to load the ACT data into the HP-200Lx native
phonebook and to-do list.  This makes it much faster to find things when using
the HP 200LX.

   Make me an offer for the software if you really want it.

Joel Berman
Iatric Systems
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# help

-Yuzuru Goto(yuzurugoto@post1.com)
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Paul Medrek wrote:

> Do you know how to get ahold of alpha 4?  Is there a trial version?

Not only is there not a trial version, but any version that would run on the palmtop is no
longer sold.  The new DOS versions all require 386+ and 4MB ram.  Perhaps you can find a
used copy.

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Like I said, I purchased the case over 5 years ago.

However, I noticed in the palmtop catalog dated 9/96 that came with my 200LX that Global Connections is offering the case for $44.95  They are calling it the XLC100.  Phone: 800-709-9494.

--- On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 22:37:37 -0700  "David R. Birch" <drbirch@EXECPC.COM> wrote:

>Where did you get this Timeboss case?  How much?
>
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You might want to note that IntelliSync does NOT currently sync with ACT! Win95 v3 (current version).  I called Puma Technology and they stated that no release date has been set for an upgrade, at this time.

Also, Intellisync does not sync ACT! notes with any built in 200LX application.  It can just dump notes into an ASCII file.

Comment - I would think that it would be hard to keep software of this type up to date
          with the current rev. levels of all of the applications that it is supposed
          to sync with.  And, as the 200LX market continues to slow down, their interest
          in maintaining this product will dwindle over time.

I do agree that the ACT! HP's user interface is very poor.  However, there seems to be a lot a depth in the functionality of this software, similar to the PC version.

--- On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 22:32:27 -0700  Joel Berman <iatricjb@PALMTOP.COM> wrote:

>   As a Windows ACT user, I bought the ACT-HP version for keeping up while
>travelling.  Big mistake.  First the interface is completely different from the
>Windows version and second it only uses part of the screen because it was
>designed for the HP-95LX.  The interface is just amazingly bad.  Instead I
>bought Intellisync and use it to load the ACT data into the HP-200Lx native
>phonebook and to-do list.  This makes it much faster to find things when using
>the HP 200LX.
>
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Hi

Is there any ACT! 1.1 for HP demonstration copy? I tried to buy on the
software.net (credit card $82,95), but they can sell only for United States!!

>>> The v1.1.1 upgrade is a fully functional copy of ACT! HP.  But, you need
>>> to have a set of ACT! data files already in you ACT! directory for the
>>> program to run.  The program can not create these files on its own.

I have the upgrade, but i need the data files for the program to run! I
cannot to execute it!

Thank you very much!

At 16:04 03/09/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Someone volunteered to email me the data files for ACT, can't remember who,
>but yes, I'd love a set to look at.
>
>John Ramos
>
>>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> The current version of ACT! runs on 95/100/200LX.  You might want to
>note that all displays are in 95LX mode, so each contact record has several
>screens.
>>>
>>> There is no product info on ACT! that I could find at Symantec's web
>site.  All I could find is the ACT! HP v1.1.1 upgrade, which is on their
>FTP site, located in the ACT! DOS directory.
>>>
>>> The v1.1.1 upgrade is a fully functional copy of ACT! HP.  But, you need
>to have a set of ACT! data files already in you ACT! directory for the
>program to run.  The program can not create these files on its own.
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:41:24 -0700  John Ramos <MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET>
>wrote:
>>>
>>> >There was an ACT for the LX200? Couldn't find it on Symantec's Web Site.
>>> >
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On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, Conrad Cox wrote:
>
> I was invited to beta version 2 WinCe. I signed up too
> late for it. But the invitation and Microsoft web
> page provided info on some of the new features.  They
> included zoomable windows in PWord and PExcel, spell checking
> in PWord, Pocket PowerPoint, and more.
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
There you go. Now I'll have to dig up an old copy of Harvard Graphics or
Applause just to keep up with the Jones' <g>.

Thanks for the info Conrad.

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Hi:

I own a 4mb HP200LX. It comes with cc:Mail rommed. As far as I have
investigated, cc:Mail needs an special mail server, but, like many people,
my ISP only provides POP3 and SMTP for receiving and sending email.

I've been investigating a little bit about internet connection with the
palmtop and have found it quite easy to do: I use a DOS ppp driver for
connection, and then, any DOS tool that uses packet drivers will work. This
includes pegasus mail, an excelent mail program that uses an external
program for mail transport.

This is: you use that program for importing messages while on-line. Those
messages are left in a directory in a format that pegasus mail can import.
More or less the same, but opposite direction for outgoing messages.

I was wondering if something like that could be done with cc:Mail, this is,
a program able to connect via TCP/IP/packet driver, retrieve unread
messages, and provide them to cc:Mail in the format it expects. And, for
outgoing mail, taking messages generated by cc:Mail, translate them into
SMTP format, and send them.

Is there such a program ?

I've thought that using the mail transport program for pegasus mail would
be easy, and then just a program for converting from pegasus mail message
forma to cc:Mail format would be needed. I would be willing to program it
if I had the format of cc:Mail messages (or message database).

Can I find that information anywere ?

Regards. Nacho.

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>Yes. Yes, They show. As glorious as 4 colors on a CGA can show

But as far as I know, you can show 4 grayscales only in graphic mode
320x200, isn't that too little resolution for web browsing ?

Regards. Nacho.

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David N Sargeant <istate@ANV.NET> wrote:

> I assume you're referring to the ethernet card that "only used 0.05
> volts" when inserted.  That reading was probably taken from watching a
> battery status (either LXPRO, ABC, or just in Setup) and seeing how much
> it went down when the card was inserted.  Which is the only way I've
> ever seen to tell how much power a card will use.  Does anybody know of
> any other way to measure it?
>

There are several other ways to tell how much power a card will use. But
I know no other way without external equipment.

At least you will need a current meter to measure the current taken by
the card. As far as I know it is only possible to get the voltage measured
by the palmtop and not the current.

The best would be to use a slot extention adapter and measure the current
direktly by inserting the meter into the power-supply. That would give
the current taken at the 5V of the slot.

An indirekt way is to measure the current taken off the batteries.
You will just isolate one pole and loop the meter in. The current measured
is more than taken by the card because of the voltage upconversion insite
the palmtop.

The last way is quite easy done with a minimun of equipment. It also
can be used to calculte the change of the battery life when using a card.
I used this way to determine the current used by a thinfax card in
standby and working modus.

The drop of the voltage depends to much on the battery type and the state
of charging to give any reliable information about the card. So a voltage
drop of 0.05 volts can be 1mA or 300mA.

Karsten

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If anyone knows of a good Cribbage game that runs well on the 200LX
please post some details.

Thanks,
Russ

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On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, Ignacio Garcua Ptrez wrote:

> I've thought that using the mail transport program for pegasus mail would
> be easy, and then just a program for converting from pegasus mail message
> forma to cc:Mail format would be needed. I would be willing to program it
> if I had the format of cc:Mail messages (or message database).
>
> Can I find that information anywere ?

My web connection is down right now so I can't confirm, but I thought
there was something in the SUPER site ( http://www.palmtop.net ) that had
info on the cc:Mail files.

- Longden

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On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, Ron Zhang wrote:

> Could anyone recommend a leather carrying case for the HP200LX? I'd like
> to have one with some space for a notepad, pen, etc. If you're using one
> like that, I'd like to hear from you. Thank you.

I use a standard (more or less) leather organizer with a zipper. Measures
5.25"x8"x1.75", so it's not as compact as Michael's TimeBoss.

The organizer is a ring binder type, something that I preferred over a
notepad, but which adds to the size....and is only 1/2 full with the LX
sitting on top (nothing holds it in place....convenient to use and to
remove in a hurry...but probably an accident waiting to happen).

I keep a penlight in the ring area and that gives me a spare set of AA
batteries, without taking up any added space.

PC card modem and other cards are in the credit card pockets in the rear.

I wanted zipper closure so nothing would drop out during a fall.

The brand of the organizer is Sculley, but I'm sure the above would work
with just about any type of that size.

- Longden

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>> Could anyone recommend a leather carrying case for the HP200LX? I'd like
>> to have one with some space for a notepad, pen, etc. If you're using one
>> like that, I'd like to hear from you. Thank you.

I have a case that is made by PalmTree.
The HP goes into a zippered pocket on the left, so it doesn't fall out.
There are quite a few pockets for PC Cards, pocket for Business Cards,
Pen loop in the center, some other side pockets and I believe you can put a
small
pad of paper into the top.
I have to take a look tonight, as I don't have it with me.
It is black Leather. Closes with a strap held with velcro.

I have 2 ( I bought 2 used HPs), so one is 4sale.
$33 shipped by Priority Mail.

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Now if someone would only design the perfect carrying case.
Pockets for pc cards, power supply, pens. A holder for the
HP200LX and choice of either notepad or ring binder capable
of holding standard size paper (8.5x11). Plus a magazine or
book as needed.

I use a 8x11x2 inch case (yes metric) By EB. It has side pocket for
cards slots and mesh for cable. Main opening hold LX and power supply
plus modem. And what ever else I can stuff in it. Mine is the polyester
version but it also comes in leather.

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Longden C. Loo [SMTP:lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 1997 09:50 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Leather Case for HP200LX
>
> On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, Ron Zhang wrote:
>
> > Could anyone recommend a leather carrying case for the HP200LX? I'd
> like
> > to have one with some space for a notepad, pen, etc. If you're using
> one
> > like that, I'd like to hear from you. Thank you.
>
> I use a standard (more or less) leather organizer with a zipper.
> Measures
> 5.25"x8"x1.75", so it's not as compact as Michael's TimeBoss.
>
>

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> I use an Apex 33.6 - 138mAh draw. Works on some 6 phones out
> of the package. Mine (DT22X) was not among them, but their Web
> page had the proper program to do it. Works fine.

If it is not a secret, what money did you pay for this Apex 33.6? And where
did you buy it?

Yours ever, Igor Grabelnikov
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     Harris,

     The Web browser provided with WWW/LX, HV, draws a box around each
     hyperlink so that you know where they are. You then tab between links
     and press Enter to visit.  You can download HV from www.palmtop.net
     and try it with a local HTML file.  GIF graphics are the only format
     supported, but display well.  You can display other graphics
     externally with LXPIC, but I turn graphics off for speed.  A well
     written HTML page includes ALT= tags so that images have textual
     representations as well.  I can not speak from much experience with
     modems.  I got a good deal on a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA fax modem which
     works great.  If you have a little more money, I would recommend
     buying a modem with some storage on it such as the EXP LXM models
     available from Notebook Supply Warehouse (800-566-6832).  The problem
     with using a normal PCMCIA modem is that all your communication
     programs need to be stores on your C: drive which leaves little room
     for mail download.  Another option may be one of these external
     battery powered modems I have seen discussed in this forum.

     Sincerely,
     Dennis Faucher
     Professional Services
     Hewlett-Packard Company
     Burlington, MA
     (617) 221-5090
     dennis_faucher@hp.com

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----- forwarded message -----

I'm looking for a trainning programm for april, someone told me that=
 I
could ask to Genplus but I loose his mail. If you are reading this mail
please send me back the informations again.

                          Thanks.

Je cherche un stage a partir d'Avril, quelqu'un m'a donne des info pour
en faire un chez Genplus mais j'ai perdu son mail. Si vous lisez ce=
 mail
est que vous etes la personne qui m'a ecrit pourriez vous me renvoyer
les info?
                       Merci

                                  F.X.

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At 14:43 3/09/97 -0700, you wrote:
>On the other hand, it's tough to measure either with the thingey in
>the slot, unless one uses the battery monitor program to see by how
>much the supply voltage drops when a particular card is installed...
>Terminology still needs some work, but that's the way *I* would
>determine whether or not a device dragged the supply down
>enough to make the *LX function....

The battery voltage drop when inserting a card is of very little use:

A battery or a pair of batteries are modelled as a ideal voltage source
plus a series resistor. When the battery energy decreases, it can be seen
as an increase of the series resistance, not as a voltage drop in the
voltage source.

This is ideal, of course the voltage source doesn't remain constant, but
believe me, the resistor increase effect is much more important.

This is why measuring a battery voltage with no load is useless. I've seen
almost empty alkaline batteries that showed 1.4V with no load, but dropped
to 0.5V with little load.

SO, the voltage drop in the batteries when a card is inserted is I*R, where
I is the card's current drain, and R is the internal resistance of the
battery. Unless R is known, the voltage drop is meaningless.

And R depends not only on the battery charge, but on battery type and brand
too.

Salu2. Nacho.

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At 15:28 3/09/97 -0600, you wrote:
>     Hi!
>     I have 3 20Mb Flash cards and one 6 Mb one and one Modem. Change them
>     more then 5 time each and every day. in 2 years no problems. Just make
>     sure your Palmtop is OFF.

Just curious: what do you need so much storage for ?

Salu2. Nacho.

P.S: Why must the palmtop be OFF ?, as far as I know the 200LX slot is
hot-swapable, and I swao my ATA card and my modem with no problems at all.

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Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:
(
( I use a 8x11x2 inch case (yes metric) By EB. It has side pocket for
( cards slots and mesh for cable. Main opening hold LX and power supply
( plus modem. And what ever else I can stuff in it. Mine is the polyester
( version but it also comes in leather.

  Do you have to take the unit out to connect it to an AC adaptor or the
serial cable? Thanks.


Ron

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The HP200LX can be used/charged in the case but it is easier
to remove and use the HP outside the case. There is a holder
to clip the HP in place. Velcro is used to hold the holder so
you can arrange it however you like.

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Zhang [SMTP:rzhang@KOBC0000.DELCOELECT.COM]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 1997 01:25 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Leather Case for HP200LX
>
> Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:
> (
> ( I use a 8x11x2 inch case (not metric) By EB. It has side pocket for
> ( cards slots and mesh for cable. Main opening hold LX and power
> supply
> ( plus modem. And what ever else I can stuff in it. Mine is the
> polyester
> ( version but it also comes in leather.
>
>   Do you have to take the unit out to connect it to an AC adaptor or
> the
> serial cable? Thanks.
>
>

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On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, Ignacio Garcua Ptrez wrote:

> P.S: Why must the palmtop be OFF ?, as far as I know the 200LX slot is
> hot-swapable, and I swao my ATA card and my modem with no problems at all.

Do you say the 200LX slot is hot-swappable based on experience or is that
claim founded on something you know of the electronics?

The manual (p 1-7) says "Be sure to turn off the palmtop before inserting
or removing a plug-in card". Is this in error? Or were they just being
overcautious (or maybe it applied to 100LX and not 200LX?).

- Longden

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For those who care:
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I have updated some pages on our site http://www.port-home.com

There are still several "Under Constuction" Links.

If you would like to browse thought the site and mail
me your commects, I would be glad.

Start here:  http://www.port-home.com

HP 200 page: http://www.port-home.com/hp200
WinCE page:  http://www.port-home.com/wince

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Hi. This is the 2nd time of asking, couldn't see any replies to my
first. Sorry if I missed yours.

HELP !!

I have acquired a couple of Intels 20mb Flash Cards (series 2) at what
I though was a bargain price. Trouble is, I can't get either to work
in my 200lx. They wouldn't work in my Toshiba notebook either until I
loaded Card Services, even though my HP 5mb flash card had worked fine
in both without Card services.

Please don't tell me they don't work in the HP 200lx, do please tell
me what the secret is hi.

Otherwise I guess it was just another of my "bargain" buys that turned
into a waste of valuable cash resources.

Any and all help is gratefully received.

Many thanks from Malcolm in Bristol UK
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At 06:58 4/09/97 -0700, you wrote:
>On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, Ignacio Garcua Ptrez wrote:
>
>> I've thought that using the mail transport program for pegasus mail would
>> be easy, and then just a program for converting from pegasus mail message
>> forma to cc:Mail format would be needed. I would be willing to program it
>> if I had the format of cc:Mail messages (or message database).
>>
>> Can I find that information anywere ?
>
>My web connection is down right now so I can't confirm, but I thought
>there was something in the SUPER site ( http://www.palmtop.net ) that had
>info on the cc:Mail files.

I got that file already. It's a bunch of example programs. Not very
documented. I was wondering if the cc:Mail stuff format would be documented
somewhere. If not, maybe I'll go with those programs...

Regards. Nacho.

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Subject:      Re: Leather Case for HP200LX

People who want a leather case that can hold the LX *and* the AC
adapter might take a look at the Newt Boot.  It's marketed to Newton
owners, but can accomodate the LX.  It came to my attention when they
ran a promotion for subscribers to a Macintosh email list a few months
ago.

The manufacturer appears to be a running this as a side business,
accepting orders on her answering machine.  If you're more comfortable
ordering through a human being, I just discovered that it's also
available from PDA Direct.

    http://www.wyoming.com/~cavenewt/newtboot/
    http://www.pdadirect.com/

                                -Jim.

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     Hi!
     HP does not want you to hot swap just like it tells you in the manual.
     some one is playing Russian Roulette.

     Helmut in Colorado


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On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, Ignacio Garcua Ptrez wrote:

> P.S: Why must the palmtop be OFF ?, as far as I know the 200LX slot is
> hot-swapable, and I swao my ATA card and my modem with no problems at all.

Do you say the 200LX slot is hot-swappable based on experience or is that
claim founded on something you know of the electronics?

The manual (p 1-7) says "Be sure to turn off the palmtop before inserting
or removing a plug-in card". Is this in error? Or were they just being
overcautious (or maybe it applied to 100LX and not 200LX?).

- Longden

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Eben Rubin wrote:

> My eject slide broke months ago for unclear reasons...

The problem is thus how to get PCMCIA cards out of the slot in a
relaiable fashion...

I sw the solution on a Trimble PS navigation unit fittes to a Cessna
caravan.  The card has glues onto it a tab that you can grab to pul and
remove it:

----------------------------
:                                        :
:                                      ========
:                                      ========  <--------Tab glues onto
card
:                                        :
:                                        :
----------------------------

Another solution might be to put some sellotape on with a part sticking
out.  The part sticking out might be doubled back onto itself ...

Regards,

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Hello,

Is anyone using Telnet/LX successfully?  I can connect to a number of
UNIX machines, but only get as far as the password prompt or some times
the welcome banner before the program locks up.  I just ran the PALRUN
and Telnet/LX on my PC and everything worked fine.  Thank you for your
input.

Sincerely,
Dennis Faucher
HP Professional Services
dennis_faucher@hp.com
617-221-5090

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>
> I got that file already. It's a bunch of example programs. Not very
> documented. I was wondering if the cc:Mail stuff format would be documented
> somewhere. If not, maybe I'll go with those programs...
>

There is a program at that ftp site called "eddie", called
something like "Qua!lx" that may be just what you want. I've
forgotten all the details of program name, site name, sorry,
but the program uses ccmail "offline" for internet mail
downloaded from your ISP is a special format I think (uquick?).


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At 11:54 4/09/97 -0700, you wrote:
>On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, Ignacio Garcua Ptrez wrote:
>
>> P.S: Why must the palmtop be OFF ?, as far as I know the 200LX slot is
>> hot-swapable, and I swao my ATA card and my modem with no problems at all.
>
>Do you say the 200LX slot is hot-swappable based on experience or is that
>claim founded on something you know of the electronics?
>
>The manual (p 1-7) says "Be sure to turn off the palmtop before inserting
>or removing a plug-in card". Is this in error? Or were they just being
>overcautious (or maybe it applied to 100LX and not 200LX?).

Well, as far as I know PCMCIA cards must be electricaly protected against
hot insertion/removal. But how PCMCIA is implemented in the 200LX is
something I just don't know, and, of course, card's functionality depends
very much on the software. My modem is not recognized without the CIC100
TSR. This is because PCMCIA cards must be configured before they are used
(think of it as some sort of plug and play). But if CIC100 is installed,
it's probably checking every while if a modem is inserted, because my modem
is recognized as soon as I insert it (or maybe there's some interrupt that
happens when inserting a card, just don't know until I get the internals
documentation).

I use to swap my ATA flash card and my modem with no problems at all. Of
course, if you have files open in the ATA card, data loss may happen.

The manual says that "data loss may happen", but no hardware damage can
happen, otherwise they would state it FOR SURE.

Regards. Nacho.

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Does it actually run at 33.6 on the HP?
>
>I use an Apex 33.6 - 138mAh draw. Works on some 6 phones out
>of the package. Mine (DT22X) was not among them, but their Web
>page had the proper program to do it. Works fine.
>
>  (: Avi M. :) [D&A]

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Native DOS does not have a function for creating a nice DOS batch menu.  In
a later
post I will show how you can create an external DOS command using your LX
called, say, "reply.com"
that will enable you to make your own batch menus.  Reply.com will halt the
Batch program
and wait for the user to reply by pressing a key.  The Batch program can
then branch to
different code depending on the key that was pressed.

I'd reveal the secret now, but I left my notes at work and I'm writing this
from home.

I'm sure you could download such a utility from somehwere.  Norton
Utilities has such
a command, but it is fun to create it  yourself.....using.._____________.

(Can anyone guess? You don't need any compiler
or any assembly language program!)









Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Philip Seyer -- Phone:  415-665-8933  -- author of  *What Makes Music Work*
"A lucid, well-organzied introduction..." - American Library Assoc.
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--Shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.

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>...
>         ... And, as the 200LX market continues to slow down, their interest
>          in maintaining this product will dwindle over time.


Why would the LX 200 market slow down if we do our part in letting the
world know how
much superior the LX is to those Wince toys?  Windows is not always needed,
but
most users have been made to think that is is.

In my regular job, we have developed a so called GUI interface to help
salesmen.
In runs in Windows NT 4.0

Oh it is nice, but we could have done the whole thing in DOS.  The DOS
program would
have the same basic functionality with drop down listboxes, etc., it could
even
have some pretty icons if we used special DOS graphic libraries.  It would
run much faster
and we could have developedit in much, much less time.

Windows is appropriate for artists and musicians who need a lot of graphics
and fine
shades of color.  But for fast, basic business functionality, DOS is really
just as good
as Windows if the program is designed well.  Some DOS business programs I
wrote in 1990
are still in production and doing their job well without the need for Windows.

Even today, as I work in Windows NT developing applications with
PowerBuilder, I find DOS
useful for automating a lot of routine tasks that would be very tedius if I
had to point and
click, point and drag, shift-click, open this folder, open that folder, and
on and on.
Windows may be easier for beginners because it is more visual.  But for
experienced
computer users, it is often easier to develop a batch file, and then start
a DOS batch menu system
and then press, say, "C"and sit back and watch the system do the work by
firing off another batch process.




Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Philip Seyer -- Phone:  415-665-8933  -- author of  *What Makes Music Work*
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>>Mark Sailer <msailer@ML.COM>

>>InteliLink 3.4.x will only support up to ECCO 3.x (It supports a ton of=

other PIMs too.<<

Intellilink can translate Ecco 4 files. However, you have to have Ecco 3 =
up
and running, which means only Ecco loyalists can use it.

>>I'm getting tried of all these "sync" apps that don't work or don't car=
ry
all the fields between the desktop PIM and the HP200 apps.<<

Intellilink does most of the translation, if you're willing to spend enou=
gh
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with duplications because you can't control what field the software uses
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At 22:44 4/09/97 GMT, you wrote:
>>
>> I got that file already. It's a bunch of example programs. Not very
>> documented. I was wondering if the cc:Mail stuff format would be documented
>> somewhere. If not, maybe I'll go with those programs...
>>
>
>There is a program at that ftp site called "eddie", called
>something like "Qua!lx" that may be just what you want. I've
>forgotten all the details of program name, site name, sorry,
>but the program uses ccmail "offline" for internet mail
>downloaded from your ISP is a special format I think (uquick?).

You don't give me many clues :)

I'll try to find that program and report my progresses to the list. Thanks.

Salu2. Nacho.

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Look for qualx13.zip at:

 ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/hp95lx/NEW/


> >
> >There is a program at that ftp site called "eddie", called
> >something like "Qua!lx" that may be just what you want. I've
> >forgotten all the details of program name, site name, sorry,
> >but the program uses ccmail "offline" for internet mail
> >downloaded from your ISP is a special format I think (uquick?).
>

It is meant for using UQWK messages on a UNIX account.

Works great for me

Frank

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 I would bw interested provided no bugs to cause crashes
Thanks David

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>

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> Look for qualx13.zip at:
>
>  ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/hp95lx/NEW/

Thanks Frank! Saved me lookin it up. Might just be what Nacho
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Regards, Tony

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On Thu, 4 Sep 1997 17:10:23,
Dennis Faucher <dennis_faucher@HP-USA-OM11.OM.HP.COM> Wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Is anyone using Telnet/LX successfully?  I can connect to a
> number of
> UNIX machines, but only get as far as the password prompt or
> some times
> the welcome banner before the program locks up.  I just ran the
> PALRUN
> and Telnet/LX on my PC and everything worked fine.  Thank you
> for your input.


I use TELNET/LX routinely to connect to the UNIX (AIX ver 4) box here=

at UCONN with few problems. The only difficulty I have had has been
related to the fact that the program is not very sophistocated, as
Andreas admits in the documentation. I personally like the TELNET
utility in NetTamer better as it is a little more functional. I have
not seen the "lock-up" that you have experienced w/ TELNET/LX. (BTW:my
200LX is 2x by Times2Tech, so that is not a factor)

Cheers,



*Al Kind, Tech Lab Mgr: Microchemistry Lab, Univ of CT, U-193
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Hi,

eddie
        ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/hp95lx/

has some new software. Just loaded today. Including several programming
languages (Turbo C, Pascal, Basic, a C interpreter(!), and prolog)

Some games, and some pcx images. Haven't had a chance to try anything,
but thanks to whoever did it!

Brendan

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INHO, the eva movie player is, as the SUPER site claims, "very cool".

But are there any more eva movies available for it? And if so, where?


I think something like snippets of Seinfeld, or Dave Barry's Exploding Whale
could approach an equivalent level of coolness...

Very impressed.

Brendan

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The sad reality is, sometimes perception is more important than fact.

People buy based on perception, simply because they typically don't have the time or resources
to check out new purchases thoroughly.

Because of this, the best products do not necessarily succeed.

Microsoft products are a good example.  Microsoft rarely has the best product on the market,
especially when it is first released.  But, because of the market's perception of Microsoft and
its products, Microsoft dominates the PC industry.

Another good example of this is Sony and their Beta VCR tape format.  The Beta format produced
superior quality recordings than the VHS format (today's standard in North America).  However,
Beta was only marketed by Sony and the VHS standard was marketed by a large number of companies.
 VHS volumes where higher and costs where lower.  The total VHS marketing effort was also
greater.  In the end, VHS became the standard and Beta is gone.

HP 200LX vs. WinCE is basically the same scenario as Sony Beta vs. VHS.  Today, the 200LX is
clearly a better product.  But, HP is no longer actively marketing it and WinCE will probably
dominate this market segment long term, for the same reasons as above.

Another thing to keep in mind.  From the standpoint of software manufacturers, WinCE is much
more attractive than 200LX.  The 200LX is stable, so the only way you can sell software upgrades
and maintain your revenue stream is to add functionality.

With WinCE, all you have to do is wait for the next rev. level of the OS and you can market a
new upgrade with little or no added functionality.  And, on top of that you are not dependant on
one hardware vendor.

I believe that the future hope for the 200LX is to find several vertical market segments where
its superior functionality along with innovative software will be appreciated by the customer.

--- On Thu, 4 Sep 1997 21:15:38 -0700  Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM> wrote:

>>         ... And, as the 200LX market continues to slow down, their interest
>>          in maintaining this product will dwindle over time.
>
>
>Why would the LX 200 market slow down if we do our part in letting the
>world know how
>much superior the LX is to those Wince toys?  Windows is not always needed,
>but
>most users have been made to think that is is.
>
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           9/5/97 7:57:58 AM EDT
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I'M NOT SHOUTING. I CAN READ ALL CAPS MUCH EASIER THAN LOWERS.

RECENTLY, AND MY ARCHIVE IS TOO BIG TO FIND IT, SOMEONE GAVE THE
INFORMATION ON SOURCES, MANUFACTURERS AND PART NUMBERS TO THE 10 PIN
SERIAL PORT CABLE CONNECTOR FOR THE 200LX.

COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE IT AGAIN. I'LL PRINT IT OUT THIS TIME.

I NEED TO MAKE UP SEVERAL SERIAL CABLES N TEH NEAR FUTURE FOR GPS AND
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HP>>hi !
HP>>
HP>>well...i have one, it's not a "pro" one, but, it do the work, i think
HP>>that it came with an issue of the "palmtop paper" a time ago.
HP>>
HP>>it's very small, about 5k, and it's written in assembler (very strong
HP>>platform).
HP>>
HP>>if you want it, please email me, and i'll send you a copy of the game.
HP>>
HP>>i have also: casino, sokoban, and some very, very old, car games

HP>Hi, I would like the chess game very much, I am not interested in other
HP>games except if you have backgammon too.

HP>thank you in advance
HP>Kjeld Jensen

HP>_______________________________
HP>Stud.scient Kjeld Jensen
HP>Applied Mathematics and Physics
HP>Odense University, Denmark
HP>http://www.imada.ou.dk/~kjeld

  Dear, Kjeld, please send me an email address where i cand send all
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> Is anyone using Telnet/LX successfully?

Yes. If you run it under System Manager, make sure you start WWW/LX
from the Application Manager and put an upside down exclamation mark
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the serial port and make any communication impossible.

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I have a SPARCstation 5 and am trying to figure out how to transfer
files to and from my HP200LX. I have looked back in the posting archives
and found some postings relating to a SPARC/HP connection but most were
pretty specific. I wanted to see if anyone had a more general approach.

I gather that I will need something like lxtools for the software but
will I also need a compiler in order to convert this code into an
executable file (C++ Turbo maybe)?

I have to admit that most of my experience has been under the Windows OS
and I'm kind of a newbie at using a UNIX/xterm environment (but I'm
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Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Hello,

Cgahlp and moreexm seem to conflict with WWW/LX and Telnet/LX. When=
 I
have cgahlp loaded, the WWW/LX dialer has trouble connecting to my ISP
and when I have moreexm loaded, Telnet/LX locks up during my welcome
banner.  To solve this problem I have stopped using cgahlp and I run
moreexm -r before Telnet/LX and moreexm after.  I hope this helps
someone else.

Sincerely,
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On Fri, 5 Sep 1997 10:43:08,
Dennis Faucher <dennis_faucher@HP-USA-OM11.OM.HP.COM> Wrote:

> Cgahlp and moreexm seem to conflict with WWW/LX and Telnet/LX.

Hmm... I run both CGAHLP & MOREEXM on my machine w/ no problem. I do
run WWW/LX in a MaxDOS shell, could it just be a low memory problem?

- on the other hand, if you got it working, I guess there is no longer
any need to keep trying to fix it ;-)

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Mgr: Microchemistry Lab, Univ of CT, U-193
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>         Do you have any plans to "enhance" this application? Graphic

I just sent you a private message and asked what you would like to =
see
:-)

> support (for programs like PINE) and file upload/download would be
> nice...just thinking out load.

What kind of graphics do you mean? Tektronics emulation? Or just the
VT100 graphics? Upload/download of ASCII files? Or any other protocols?

>         Have you been able to get any more cycling trips in? The

Unfortunately not. Sometimes, I have to work :-)

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Can somebody tell me where to find  a program to find files in any
directory in the lx200?  I have one but it is almost 80K; I am sure there
must be something lighter.  Thank you in advance...

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At 11:36 05-09-97 -0700, Felipe Mellado wrote:
>Can somebody tell me where to find  a program to find files in any
>directory in the lx200?  I have one but it is almost 80K; I am sure there
>must be something lighter.  Thank you in advance...
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There is an ancient tiny dos utility (413 characters) called
whereis.com which, at the risk of violating the List's charter and
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in DOS and can use wild cards.  That is if you type "whereis back*"
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Felipe Mellado wrote:
>
> Can somebody tell me where to find  a program to find files in any
> directory in the lx200?  I have one but it is almost 80K; I am sure there
> must be something lighter.  Thank you in advance...
>
>                 Felipe Mellado
>
> How about exiting to DOS and use the DIR /S command syntax?  This will display directory location and requires no extra RAM.  Of course, it works with wildcard extensions as well.

Jim Smith

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While looking around on Eddie I found a program called Turbo.zip that
speeds up the 100/LX. The DOC. stated that the effect would be that your
CPU will seem to run at about 14 MHz instead of its normal 10 MHz.

But was unable to find (Turbot C, Pascal, Basic, a C interpreter(!), and
prolog).


At 09:47 PM 9/5/97 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>eddie
>        ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/hp95lx/
>
>has some new software. Just loaded today. Including several programming
>languages (Turbo C, Pascal, Basic, a C interpreter(!), and prolog)
>
>Some games, and some pcx images. Haven't had a chance to try anything,
>but thanks to whoever did it!
>

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At 10:50 5/09/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Look for qualx13.zip at:
>
> ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/hp95lx/NEW/
>
>
>> >
>> >There is a program at that ftp site called "eddie", called
>> >something like "Qua!lx" that may be just what you want. I've
>> >forgotten all the details of program name, site name, sorry,
>> >but the program uses ccmail "offline" for internet mail
>> >downloaded from your ISP is a special format I think (uquick?).
>>
>
>It is meant for using UQWK messages on a UNIX account.

So, a shell account is needed. What I want is a program capable of getting
messages from a POP3 server, and sending messages through a SMTP server.
All, with a local format suitable for cc:Mail. That program would be only
the "transport" layer.

I would DO that program. The POP3 and SMTP protocols are simple and easy to
implement. TCP/IP over packet driver is easily done (well, not so easily)
with WATTCP. My ONLY problem is to know the format in which cc:Mail stores
it's messages.

Regards. Nacho.

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At 07:57 5/09/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Another good example of this is Sony and their Beta VCR tape format.  The
Beta format produced
>superior quality recordings than the VHS format (today's standard in North
America).  However,
>Beta was only marketed by Sony and the VHS standard was marketed by a
large number of companies.
> VHS volumes where higher and costs where lower.  The total VHS marketing
effort was also
>greater.  In the end, VHS became the standard and Beta is gone.


You forget a very important point on this topic: you had to pay Sony for
using Beta format. Not with VHS. I guess it makes a big difference.

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At 11:36 5/09/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Can somebody tell me where to find  a program to find files in any
>directory in the lx200?  I have one but it is almost 80K; I am sure there
>must be something lighter.  Thank you in advance...

http://oak.oakland.edu/simtel.net/

Go to DOS section, "dirutil" directory. Lots of programs for file finding.

I use FileFinder (search for that chain in the directory), which comes in a
large ZIP file contaning lotsa flavours and stuff. I erased everything and
only use a file called FF2.COM which is 23K or so.

Regards. Nacho.

P.S: WIZ is very good and fast too, and is ONLY 12K. But I'm not sure if it
will work on device-driven drives (because it does direct disc accesses in
order to perform so fast) as the HP200LX are. Bit is worth the try, sure.

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At 08:01 5/09/97 -0600, you wrote:
>I have a SPARCstation 5 and am trying to figure out how to transfer
>files to and from my HP200LX. I have looked back in the posting archives
>and found some postings relating to a SPARC/HP connection but most were
>pretty specific. I wanted to see if anyone had a more general approach.
>
>I gather that I will need something like lxtools for the software but
>will I also need a compiler in order to convert this code into an
>executable file (C++ Turbo maybe)?

As far as I know lxtools come in source code for UNIX machines. Your unix
machine MUST have a C compiler. Just unzip the sources a type "make" (If
they have a makefile, of course).

In UNIX machines, you can think of the C compiler almost as part of the
operating system distribution.

>I have to admit that most of my experience has been under the Windows OS
>and I'm kind of a newbie at using a UNIX/xterm environment (but I'm
>willing to learn).

So, you need to transfer files to/from HP200LX <---> UNIX. I don't know
about lxtools, but maybe they are just what you need.

The second and very easy solution is XMODEM/ZMODEM. In Simtel you can find
lotsa ZMODEM programs, and you can also get the sources for unix and
compile them in your machine.

Regards. Nacho.

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Robert, you have perpetrated obnoxiousness in the first degree. You knew
that you were not supposed to do it and still sent an attachment. This is
not very smart, quite stupid, in fact. You have created an instant
reputation for yourself. Whatever the list moderator does, I am putting
your name into my Inbox Assistant, for permanent deletion of any mail from
you.

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| There is an ancient tiny dos utility (413 characters) called
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| incurring the wrath of our moderator, I am attaching. It works fine
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| Cheers,
| Bob Kirk
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Talk about obnoxiousness...who died and made you GOD?????

John Ramos

At 02:42 PM 9/5/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Robert, you have perpetrated obnoxiousness in the first degree. You knew
>that you were not supposed to do it and still sent an attachment. This is
>not very smart, quite stupid, in fact. You have created an instant
>reputation for yourself. Whatever the list moderator does, I am putting
>your name into my Inbox Assistant, for permanent deletion of any mail from
>you.
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>| From: Robert Kirk <rkirk1@UMBC.EDU>
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>| Subject: Re: File Finder
>| Date: September 5, 1997 2:11 PM
>|
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>| There is an ancient tiny dos utility (413 characters) called
>| whereis.com which, at the risk of violating the List's charter and
>| incurring the wrath of our moderator, I am attaching. It works fine
>| in DOS and can use wild cards.  That is if you type "whereis back*"
>| it will return all files starting with "back" in all directories.
>|
>| Cheers,
>| Bob Kirk
>|
>|
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From:         Laurence Harvey <harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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As a newish member to the list who has not contributed anything, I though=
t
I ought to share an idea I have with any interested parties on the list.

I maintain a database of interesting Internet addresses I encounter using=

the in-built database application and have developed a simple method of
generating an HTML file from that database that can be loaded into my
desktop Web Browser and present a "Favorites Web Page" providing hot link=
s
to those interesting addresses, together with brief comments for each sit=
e
(extracted from a Notes field in the in-built database). =


The technique is simply:

1)  Create database with Site Name, Web Address and Notes fields (at leas=
t)

2)  Create a SmartClip in the database that creates a HTML tag e.g.
    <P><A HREF=3Dhttp://WEBADDRESS>SITENAME</A>NOTES</P>
3)  Using Print menu option Print either Selected or All items to File
using
    Style of SmartClip defined above
4)  Open Memo and load file printed above, and insert a predefined header=

file
    at the start of the text, and a predefined footer file at the end of
the text
    to complete the HTML page definition.

    Header file format (HEAD.TXT) should be something like:

    <HTML>
    <HEAD>
    <TITLE>My Favorites Web Page</TITLE>
    </HEAD>
    <H1 ALIGN=3D"Center">My Favorites Web Page</H1>
    <BODY BGCOLOR=3D008080>

    Footer file format (TAILT.TXT) should be something like:

    </BODY>
    </HTML>

5)  Save the resultant file and transfer to desktop. Open it in your
browser and =

    hey presto - a Web Page with your favorite links complete with notes.=


Extensions to this idea could include:

a) Make the process even easier by fully automating steps 3 & 4 with a
single macro

b) Add an EMail field to the database and then Email addresses could be
added to the Web Page.

c) Add a Category field to the database, and then sort the database by
category and create headers in the Web Page at the start of each category=

of link. =


Hope someone finds this idea interesting

Laurence Harvey

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I have just purchased a Simple Technology 16Meg Flash Memory card for my =
HP
200 LX which works great with one reservation. Battery life has dropped
from around 12 hours to 6 hours. Is this typical for Flash cards? =


I am using 900mAH NiCads. =

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Sounds like cutting the time in half is a bit much! You might try "deep
cycling" the batteries. Replace them with Alkaline and put them in a
flashlight or kids toy and leave them on until drained and recharge them.
Do this a couple of times if not done for awhile and the current handling
capacity should be better. NiMH batteries are better.

I have run a 40 meg in mine and not seen much difference. I run a thin fax
w/4 meg and don't see much difference either.

JR


At 03:30 PM 9/5/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I have just purchased a Simple Technology 16Meg Flash Memory card for my HP
>200 LX which works great with one reservation. Battery life has dropped
>from around 12 hours to 6 hours. Is this typical for Flash cards?
>
>I am using 900mAH NiCads.
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>> Can somebody tell me where to find  a program to find files in any
>> directory in the lx200?  I have one but it is almost 80K; I am sure there
>> must be something lighter.  Thank you in advance...
>>

How about FileFind from an old version of Norton Utilities?

I have NU v4.5 and ff.exe uses only 9kb.
______________________________________________

  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           9/5/97 4:25:49 PM EDT
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I have a old dos utility called Super Finder (SF.com) less than 3K.
checks subdirectories and all. Also have Borlands whereis that will
check subs and perform a chain function.

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: mdstockr [SMTP:mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM]
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 1997 16:27
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: File Finder
>
> >> Can somebody tell me where to find  a program to find files in any
> >> directory in the lx200?  I have one but it is almost 80K; I am sure
> there
> >> must be something lighter.  Thank you in advance...
> >>
>
> How about FileFind from an old version of Norton Utilities?
>
> I have NU v4.5 and ff.exe uses only 9kb.
> ______________________________________________
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- Please address policy comments(positive or negative) to me personally
not to the LIST.

- Please also resist the urge to "flame", that's not why we are here.

Cheers,



*Al Kind, Tech Lab Mgr: Microchemistry Lab, Univ of CT, U-193
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA   Tel / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124

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Mikhail Epelbaum wrote:

> Robert, you have perpetrated obnoxiousness in the first degree. You
> knew

<snip>

The complaint you wrote was at least 3/4 of the size of the file he
attached.  Plus you quoted his entire message.  Granted, he shouldn't
have posted it to the list, but please direct complaints to Al or the
author of the post.
--
Visit the HP200LX web pages at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Subject:      Re: Battery Life & Flash Cards
Comments: cc: mack@times2tech.com

>I have just purchased a Simple Technology 16Meg Flash Memory card for my HP
>200 LX which works great with one reservation. Battery life has dropped
>from around 12 hours to 6 hours. Is this typical for Flash cards?

comment:
in my experience, some flash cards have a much bigger impact on battery usage
than others.  i have a viking 4 meg (stacked to 9) which uses up batteries
much more quickly than an hp 10 meg card (stacked to 20)

using lithium batteries, and a 200lx with both the double speed mod and the
6meg memory mod, the viking 4 meg card had the batteries down to empty in 16
hours of use, over a month.

with no changes in set-up, other than changing my full-time flash card to the
hp 10 meg card, i am currently at 23 hours over 2 months, and the batteries
are still at about 2.7, according to buddy.

(incidently, i use the machine A LOT mor than that, but i have A/C addapters
at my desk at work and by my reguar chair at home. i plug in when ever i am
planning on doeing anything intensive or time consuming.)

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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JOHN IT PAYS TO "READ INSTRUCTIONS"

THE LIST OPERATOR IS "GOD ON THISLIST" HE SAID "NO" BINARY ATTACHMENTS.
READ INSTRUCTIONS AT END OF EVERY MESSAGE.
73 SPENCE K4KEP
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John Ramos wrote:
>
> Talk about obnoxiousness...who died and made you GOD?????
>
> John Ramos
>
> At 02:42 PM 9/5/97 -0400, you wrote:
> >Robert, you have perpetrated obnoxiousness in the first degree. You knew
> >that you were not supposed to do it and still sent an attachment. This is
> >not very smart, quite stupid, in fact. You have created an instant
> >reputation for yourself. Whatever the list moderator does, I am putting
> >your name into my Inbox Assistant, for permanent deletion of any mail from
> >you.
> >
> >----------
> >| From: Robert Kirk <rkirk1@UMBC.EDU>
> >| To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> >| Subject: Re: File Finder
> >| Date: September 5, 1997 2:11 PM
> >|
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> >| There is an ancient tiny dos utility (413 characters) called
> >| whereis.com which, at the risk of violating the List's charter and
> >| incurring the wrath of our moderator, I am attaching. It works fine
> >| in DOS and can use wild cards.  That is if you type "whereis back*"
> >| it will return all files starting with "back" in all directories.
> >|
> >| Cheers,
> >| Bob Kirk
> >|
> >|
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From:         "Mazie, Kenneth C (kmaz)" <KMAZ@CHEVRON.COM>
Subject:      Networking a 100LX

I'm new to this distribution list and don't know if anyone has posted
this information anywhere or not (mainly because everywhere I looked on
the web I couldn't find it), so I'll post it for the benefit of those
who can use it.

I still use a 100LX and am quite happy with it.  I have no intention of
upgrading anytime in the near future.  I'm a netwark admin and wanted to
get the palmtop on our ethernet network.  I determined that the Silicom
10baseT looked like the one to use and bought one.  The docs are very
vague and it took me a while to tweek everything so it worked.  I am now
able to log into any of our Novell servers and run any of the
administration tools I like.  All noted files exist on the C: ram disk.
I have a 10 meg flash disk and have copied it to a server.  I then map
the A drive to the server directory and am able access the files as if
the flash disk were installed.  The one problem being keeping the server
and flash disk syncronized.  Anyway, here are the settings I used:

Autoexec.bat :
@ECHO OFF
PROMPT $P$G
PATH=C:\;C:\_DAT;d:\bin;d:\dos;c:\utility
c:\utility\diet -P -Z -TC:\
rem d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1
c:\utility\diet -D C:\_DAT\*.?db
c:\utility\diet c:\net\*.*

Config.sys :
files=35
buffers=35
lastdrive=z
device=c:\netware\sehp.exe
shell=d:\dos\command.com /e:512 /p
device=c:\utility\emm200.exe c:\emm200.dat

Net.bat :
@echo off
c:
cd\netware
lsl
speodi
ipxodi
vlm
cd\
f:
login

Net.cfg :
link driver speodi
  noenable
  frame ethernet_ii
preferred server=<your server name here>

Using the above files I have 601200k available RAM before loading the
network.  After loading the network and logging in I have 470784k
available RAM.  Using the NETX program rather than VLM saves some memory
and leave 518944k.  Being very selective about which VLM modules load
also will same RAM, I'm loading more than I need and plan to weed some
out.  The EMM200 utility sames me a small amount becuase DIET will use
it, VLM however will not use it.  I'm still determining if it saves more
not to load it at all.

In this configuration I have not been able to load up the internal app
manager due to low memory.  The aftermarket HDM app manger however does
seem to work.  I'm still working on attaching our NT servers and
tweeking the memory.  If anyone's interested I can post the results of
those experiments.  Hopefully this note will get archived somewhere for
future reference.

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Subject:      Game reviews [was: New software at eddie!]
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> But was unable to find (Turbot C, Pascal, Basic, a C interpreter(!), and
> prolog).
Whoops; it was a just a *list* of languages available on the palmtop - not
actually available on eddie. But they were in the format of a directory
listing, so in my frenzied haste, I feel it was an understandable error (^&
Sorry to dash any hopes. )^;

--- GAMES ---
OTOH, I had a play with "goldmine". I think it's pretty good.
"Spacewar"'s movement was smoother than I thought it'd be; but rotation is
in only 8 orientations.

I *think* these are the full paths (look for the sept 1997 dates):
        ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/hp95lx/hp100lx/NEW/ZARSOFT/lang.lst
        ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/hp95lx/hp100lx/NEW/GOLDMINE

I also had a play with "starwars" a little while ago (forgotten where from).
The actual game plays way too fast, and the perspective stars in the
background are all but invisible on the palmtop. However, it has a demo
mode in which a 3D texture-mapped logo of Borderbound (sp?) can be very
smoothly and slickly rotated. I was very surprised that it was possible on
the palmtop. Cool.

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On Fri, 5 Sep 1997, Jim Smith wrote:

> Felipe Mellado wrote:
> >
> > Can somebody tell me where to find  a program to find files in any
> > directory in the lx200?  I have one but it is almost 80K; I am sure there
> > must be something lighter.  Thank you in advance...

> How about exiting to DOS and use the DIR /S command syntax?  This will
> display directory location and requires no extra RAM.  Of course, it
> works with wildcard extensions as well.

I used Norton's FileFind myself, but Jim's DIR solution is much more
elegant. Thanks for that gem!

Amazing how even as old as DOS 5 is, there's still alot I tend to overlook
(I quit the upgrade cycle after DOS 3.2, until I bought my pentium with
DOS 6.22)

- Longden

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From:         "Ignacio Garca Prez" <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
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Hi:

I've had a look to a program in eddie site, sound/sndplay.zip is called.

It's supposed to reproduce sound samples in a 95LX, and comse WITH sources.

I've tried it in my 200LX and no sound at all.

>From the examination of the sources, it seems that the 95LX has an internal
DAC capable of driving the speaker. BUT some hardware difference results in
the 200LX not playing any sound.

The program is tiny, and so very easy to read and understand. So, I beg to
anyone with the hardware internals documentation of the 200LX to have a
look to that program and try to find why it's not working. I guess it must
be fairly easy with the documentation in hand, and I insist, the program is
tiny, with just some in/outs there.

Regards. Nacho.

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Subject:      Re: File Finder: dir/s/b file.ext
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FWIW I speed-tested [whereis.com] vs [dir/s]. To my surprise, they are
about the same. They differ more in report size: whereis's is more compact -
but this seems to be exactly the same as:

        dir/s/b file.ext
                (ie sub-directories and bare. [dir /?] gives these options)

Hmmm. DOS is always better than I expect it to be. But I don't expect much! :)

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> - Please also resist the urge to "flame", that's not why we are here.

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humour and atmosphere and ambience. Its charm is worth protecting.

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>I *think* these are the full paths (look for the sept 1997 dates):
>        ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/hp95lx/hp100lx/NEW/GOLDMINE

Has anyone be successfull runnig this game. Doesn't seem to work in my 4MB
HP200LX :(

Regards. Nacho.

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On Fri, 5 Sep 1997, Mikhail Epelbaum wrote:

> Robert, you have perpetrated obnoxiousness in the first degree. You knew
> that you were not supposed to do it and still sent an attachment. This is
> not very smart, quite stupid, in fact. You have created an instant
> reputation for yourself. Whatever the list moderator does, I am putting
> your name into my Inbox Assistant, for permanent deletion of any mail from
> you.

Aw, c'mon, Mikhail: tell us how you REALLY feel!

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> >I *think* these are the full paths (look for the sept 1997 dates):
> >        ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/hp95lx/hp100lx/NEW/GOLDMINE
>
> Has anyone be successfull runnig this game. Doesn't seem to work in my 4MB
> HP200LX :(

Yes. Works on my 4MB HP200LX... sometimes a lack of drive space can upset
some programs (quite apart from a lack of 640K RAM, eg when you have the
application manager running). How many "bytes free" when you dir?

Also, there's an uppercase (Goldmine) and lowercase (goldmine) directory
at eddie. They look the same, but... My working copy came form the one that
appears first on the site. (forgotten case)

Brendan

[Lack of drive space stopped "vim" (vi editor clone) from shelling; and now I
think it's the reason "rogue" mysteriously stopped working too. Not that I
play games all the time. (^& I haven't heard this problem mentioned before:
perhaps it could go in the FAQ?... er, anyone maintaining a FAQ these days?]

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Subject:      Re: SNDPLAY
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> I've had a look to a program in eddie site, sound/sndplay.zip is called.
>
> I've tried it in my 200LX and no sound at all.

Sometimes I switch the speaker off in Setup F5. And then I wonder why
the Audio Visual movies player is only audio.

> >From the examination of the sources, it seems that the 95LX has an internal
> DAC capable of driving the speaker. BUT some hardware difference results in
> the 200LX not playing any sound.

OTOH the DAC of the 95lx became the battery measurer in the 200lx; so if
sndplay uses that, no dice. But other programs (such as eva and lxmidi)
do manage to drive the speaker to emit samples. So, sndplay may be able to
also.

Brendan

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Check the S.U.P.E.R. Site. I think its call Global Find or Search.

Hope this helps,
Qman

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sure there
must be something lighter.  Thank you in advance...

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Brendan Macmillan wrote:
[Lack of drive space stopped "vim" (vi editor clone) from shelling; and now I
think it's the reason "rogue" mysteriously stopped working too. Not that I
play games all the time. (^& I haven't heard this problem mentioned before:
perhaps it could go in the FAQ?... er, anyone maintaining a FAQ these days?]

Do you use Diet?  When loaded as a TSR, it creates temporary files of the
expanded program.  If there isn't space for the temporary file, it won't
work.  I noticed this when I tried to run Procomm Plus off my C: drive
with a PC card modem.  The Dieted copy was only 130K or so, but the
temporary file was 250-300K.  Wiped out all my remaining space so that I
couldn't download anything.

J. P. Grenert
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I apologize for sending my message about binary attachment to the list. I
meant to send it to the originator only. But when I hit Reply, it went to
all of you.

A couple of other lists, to which I am subscribed, automatically put
original author's name in TO field, and I have to manually readdress my
replies in order to send them to the list. This one is the opposite.

Anyway, the resultant traffic made for interesting reading.

Mikhail

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     Hi!
     Mikheil I thought you did the right thing and thanks for whereis.com
     it made my day.

     Helmut in Colorado

     P.S. I know it is going to the net

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I have the same one that Stephen has and have found it very useful, =
albeit a little bit of luggage to drag around.  I too am looking for a =
product that will let me carry cards, batteries etc and still not take =
up much room.  Leather is a lux for me.  Poly is better.  I am not =
trying to impress.

Ray Wick

-----Original Message-----
From:   Souza, Mr Stephen [SMTP:ssouza@EXCHG.CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL]
Sent:   Thursday, September 04, 1997 10:50
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: Leather Case for HP200LX

Now if someone would only design the perfect carrying case.
Pockets for pc cards, power supply, pens. A holder for the
HP200LX and choice of either notepad or ring binder capable
of holding standard size paper (8.5x11). Plus a magazine or
book as needed.

I use a 8x11x2 inch case (yes metric) By EB. It has side pocket for
cards slots and mesh for cable. Main opening hold LX and power supply
plus modem. And what ever else I can stuff in it. Mine is the polyester
version but it also comes in leather.

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Longden C. Loo [SMTP:lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 1997 09:50 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Leather Case for HP200LX
>
> On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, Ron Zhang wrote:
>
> > Could anyone recommend a leather carrying case for the HP200LX? I'd
> like
> > to have one with some space for a notepad, pen, etc. If you're using
> one
> > like that, I'd like to hear from you. Thank you.
>
> I use a standard (more or less) leather organizer with a zipper.
> Measures
> 5.25"x8"x1.75", so it's not as compact as Michael's TimeBoss.
>
>

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> Brendan Macmillan wrote:
> [Lack of drive space stopped "vim" (vi editor clone) from shelling; and now I

I use vi also on the LX...mostly Calvin 2.2 and XVI.  Don't think I've
ever heard of "vim" tho.

Does anyone know how it compares to the other two?

I use Calvin over XVI most of the time cuz it runs in 132K (the size of my
DOS memory allocation), but XVI seems to handle a wider range of vi
functions and settings (such as global search and replace). Calvin uses
temporary files (and I have alot of disk space to spare), so I use it as
both viewer and editor for most text files, knowing that I'll rarely run
out of memory as with most other editors.

Anyway, I'd like to know the merits of vim.  Guess I have a "vi"
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Ignacio Garc=EDa P=E9rez wrote:

> >I *think* these are the full paths (look for the sept 1997 dates):
> >        ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/hp95lx/hp100lx/NEW/GOLDMINE
>
> Has anyone be successfull runnig this game. Doesn't seem to work in my
> 4MB
> HP200LX :(
>
> Regards. Nacho.

It works on my HP Omnigo 700LX!!

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> Can somebody tell me where to find  a program to find files in any
> directory in the lx200?  I have one but it is almost 80K; I am sure there
> must be something lighter.  Thank you in advance...

I have GDE.COM (2kb). Scans all directories to find the file specified.
Interested?

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>Not only is there not a trial version, but any version that would run on
>the palmtop is no longer sold.  The new DOS versions all require 386+
>and 4MB ram.  Perhaps you can find a used copy.


I got one a copy from Alpha Soft a fe months ago.

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> I use vi also on the LX...mostly Calvin 2.2 and XVI.  Don't think I've
> ever heard of "vim" tho.

[comp.editors is the newsgroup for vim; FAQ should be there.]

I use calvin too because it's so fast. xvi doesn't grab me personally
because it just doesn't feel like vi to me. There's also elvis and stevie.

Vim is amazing. Short for "VI iMproved", it's continuously developed,
available on several platforms (unix, atari st, amiga, dos, win95 etc).
It is full unix vi, plus heaps more functionality. I use it only as a
programmer's editor, because it can be tediously slow on the hp; and the
executable is over 400K. But you want to hear about all that functionality!

        - It can parse the output of make, and then load and position
          the correct file for each error.

        - It can find the local (or global) definition of a c function,
          type, variable etc. Of whatever is under the cursor.

        - It uses tags - a kind of hyper-text: a tag program compiles an
        index for the functions in your multi-file project. When you want
        to walk-through a routine, you hit ^t on the function invocation,
        and vim automatically loads the file defining it, with the cursor
        positioned at that line.

        - It has an undo/redo stack.  - It has multiple on-screen windows.
        - define macros etc

This is just the stuff that I've heard that some editors have ... so I've
looked for it in Vim's on-line help. And there it is. I haven't yet heard of
any cool programming-editor trick that vim doesn't have implemented already.
Source is available.

If you know of a vi clone with some of these features, but faster and
smaller, please tell me so I can free up some disk space!

> Anyway, I'd like to know the merits of vim.  Guess I have a "vi"
> fetish <g>.
You Are Not Alone.

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OK, I just found a ZX spectrum emulator that works on the hp200lx, and a
zx81 emulator, too! But don't bother checking these out unless you have
found memories of those sinclair computers from the early 80's...


The spectrum one is really far too slow; but the quality of emulation seems
excellent in every other sense.  It's called, simply:   z80
Heaps of games available, of course.

The zx81 emulator has the opposite problem: way too far for the LCD screen.
But you can slow it down. It's called:  xtender
Haven't really checked yet, but I think there are very few games around
for it.

If anyone is interested, I'll try to retrace my steps to where I got them
from!

Brendan

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At 10:36 6/09/97 +1000, you wrote:
>FWIW I speed-tested [whereis.com] vs [dir/s]. To my surprise, they are
>about the same. They differ more in report size: whereis's is more compact -
>but this seems to be exactly the same as:
>
>        dir/s/b file.ext
>                (ie sub-directories and bare. [dir /?] gives these options)

If I remember properly, whereis has a very useful feature DIR hasn't: it
allows you to execute a command for each file found.

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At 11:07 6/09/97 +1000, you wrote:
>> >I *think* these are the full paths (look for the sept 1997 dates):
>> >        ftp://eddie.mit.edu/pub/hp95lx/hp100lx/NEW/GOLDMINE
>>
>> Has anyone be successfull runnig this game. Doesn't seem to work in my=
 4MB
>> HP200LX :(
>
>Yes. Works on my 4MB HP200LX... sometimes a lack of drive space can upset

It works too now in mine. I swear it didn't last time I tried (and my C:
drive was emptier for sure) =BF?=BF?=BF?

>Also, there's an uppercase (Goldmine) and lowercase (goldmine) directory
>at eddie. They look the same, but... My working copy came form the one that
>appears first on the site. (forgotten case)

I've tried both. One is v1.0 and the other is v1.1.

By the way: it's quite a bad clone of boulder dash. I remember of boulder
dash as being one of the most amazing games I ever played. I'd like to
program a *real* port to the 200LX. The only bad thing is to design the
caves, but maybe I can rip the off the old Amstrad CPC version I own.

Regards. Nacho.

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At 11:14 6/09/97 +1000, you wrote:
>> I've had a look to a program in eddie site, sound/sndplay.zip is called.
>>
>> I've tried it in my 200LX and no sound at all.
>
>Sometimes I switch the speaker off in Setup F5. And then I wonder why

I checked that. Speaker was on.

>the Audio Visual movies player is only audio.

I guess you mean only video.

>> >From the examination of the sources, it seems that the 95LX has an
internal
>> DAC capable of driving the speaker. BUT some hardware difference results in
>> the 200LX not playing any sound.
>
>OTOH the DAC of the 95lx became the battery measurer in the 200lx; so if

So, if it's a DAC, it must me fed together with battery voltage to a
comparator, and then, the output read to do a software-controlled A to D
conversion. This approach still allows to play audio, provided there's a
way to disable speaker control by the DAC (otherwise, battery voltage reads
would "sound"). It's a very simple engineering problem and I would be
dissapointed if 200LX designers hadn't left a way to still control the
speaker with the DAC. Of course, then, there should be a way to enable it,
and that would be 200LX-specific, resulting in no sound with sndplay. Maybe
when I get my SDK...

>sndplay uses that, no dice. But other programs (such as eva and lxmidi)
>do manage to drive the speaker to emit samples. So, sndplay may be able to
>also.

When I read that first I thought that those programs may be using the
speaker output in PWM mode. It's little tricky to do but works. I made a
program for that. But the problem is that for average quality very high
interrupt frequency is needed (10KHz or so), so, I doubt EVA player can
display images and still achieve such high interrupt rate for PWM. Maybe
it's really using 200LX DAC for speaker output...

Regards. Nacho.

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> > I use vi also on the LX...mostly Calvin 2.2 and XVI.  Don't think I've
> > ever heard of "vim" tho.
>
> [comp.editors is the newsgroup for vim; FAQ should be there.]
>
> I use calvin too because it's so fast. xvi doesn't grab me personally
> because it just doesn't feel like vi to me. There's also elvis and stevie.
>

(vim omitted)


> If you know of a vi clone with some of these features, but faster and
> smaller, please tell me so I can free up some disk space!
>
> > Anyway, I'd like to know the merits of vim.  Guess I have a "vi"
> > fetish <g>.
> You Are Not Alone.

Here's another one. I'm using CALVIN.  It's the best poorman's vi clone.
Beside(sp?) the small size, plesant speed and high flexibility/PC-
compatibility (it edits my Big5-texts) CALVIN does not seem to require
extra-disk space for temp-file.

I've noticed that because I'm constantly running out of disk-space.
Usually, if we want to edit a file of size 100 KB, we'll have to
have at least another 100 KB of free space. But CALVIN does not require
that extra disk-space (ELVIS would hang the palmtop).  I don't know
if Calvin creates a temp file or not, but if it does, it seems to be
clever enough to handle this situation.

It's a pity that regular expression is not fully supported. No global
replacement. No ~ command.... (I'll use q, ed or sed to do the job).
I've written the author twice (friendly response from him too).
Seems to me that he's not going to continue his Calvin.

So, the main point of my post:

Would you please write the author too, just in order to let him
know that his program ist "still" so important to people in some
corner of the world and that we appreciate his work.

The author of Calvin: Paul A Vojta <vojta@IAS.EDU>

Maybe we'll have luck to see Calvin v2.3 ...  Or maybe, you're
able to persuade him to release or sale his source codes, so that
we could hack some more functions into Calvin.

What do you say?

regards

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ACE Flash Driver

This maybe a long shot but,
I'm looking for the ACE Flash Card ID Driver for my 100/LX.
The ATA flash ID is not recognized in the HP100LX, but is recognized in the
HP200LX.

So I  needs this ACE driver. If you have such an animal contact me personally.

Thanks,
Qman

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At 11:14 PM 9/6/97 +1000, you wrote:
>OK, I just found a ZX spectrum emulator that works on the hp200lx, and a
>zx81 emulator, too! But don't bother checking these out unless you have
>found memories of those sinclair computers from the early 80's...
>

I'm interested, please tell us where you found them.  I wonder of a hp200lx
with the speed upgrade would run the games better?


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At 11:36 05-09-97 -0700, Felipe Mellado wrote:
>Can somebody tell me where to find  a program to find files in any
>directory in the lx200?  I have one but it is almost 80K; I am sure there

How about:  dir c:\fn.ext /s/b
                   ------

You'll have to issue it once per drive but on the LX that shouldn't
be too much trouble.  :-)

You could create a FIND.BAT like:

@echo off
:: Find.Bat
dir a:\%1 /s/b
dir c:\%1 /s/b

Cheers,
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Hi there:

I just found a couple of sites that I think might be of interest to people
on this list:

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/5803/
http://boxotrix.it-ias.depaul.edu/abandonware/

There are lot of very old games, that work on a CGA and thus on the 200LX.

Regards. Nacho.

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I'm just breaking in my 320LX, and miss many of the features of the
200!  OK, I know I could go back, but is there anything (yet) that will
help?
Examples: hotkeys to go directly to applications, quickkeys to category
listings, on-screen macros (ie, function keys), etc.

Help!
Toni

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> >OK, I just found a ZX spectrum emulator that works on the hp200lx, and a
> >zx81 emulator, too! But don't bother checking these out unless you have
> >fond memories of those sinclair computers from the early 80's...
>
> I'm interested, please tell us where you found them.  I wonder of a hp200lx
> with the speed upgrade would run the games better?
A ZX-Specturm emulator:
        ftp://ftp.nvg.unit.no/pub/sinclair/emulators/spectrum/pc/dos/z80-305.zip

But, it runs at only 22% speed on my 8MHz 200lx.... so I guess a speed
upgrade would make little difference. But the emulation is very good
quality. Wierd seeing it on the 200lx....

If anyone finds a faster one...

A good general ZX-Spectrum page:
        http://www.grendel.cz/hry/spectrum/index.html

[comp.sys.sinclair] is the newsgroup for the zx-spectrum and zx81 etc

The zx81 emulator should come up from a search on [xtender]. I'll have
another look for it.

Brendan

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> > I use calvin too because it's so fast.
>
> Here's another one. I'm using CALVIN.  It's the best poorman's vi clone.

> Would you please write the author too, just in order to let him
> know that his program ist "still" so important to people in some
> corner of the world and that we appreciate his work.
>
> The author of Calvin: Paul A Vojta <vojta@IAS.EDU>

> Maybe we'll have luck to see Calvin v2.3 ...  Or maybe, you're
> able to persuade him to release or sale his source codes, so that
> we could hack some more functions into Calvin.

> What do you say?

Yes, Calvin is ace, and I'm sending off a note right away. Good idea!

But a question for you calvin/vi users: I *think* I've got a hold of all
calvin's features, but just what does !<motion> and !! do?

I think they pass the addressed text into the stdin of the program
indicated - eg fmt - and then write the stdout of that origram back into the
file. BSo you can add a little functionality that way (but still, it's a
few key presses).

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Hello,

I would like to know, whether who bought 33.6 FaxModems or Flash Cards of
Pretec Electronics Corp.? How they have recommended themselves from the
point of view of quality and compatibility with 200LX?

Use of the 33.6 modem for connection with U.S.Robotics Courier 33.6 is
supposed. Whether somebody tried such a combination?

Thanks in advance.

Yours ever, Igor Grabelnikov
igg@sbcorp.ru

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.  You visual editor people think you're all that.  But =
I
found the _real_ editor.  PCTECO is available under "editors" on SimTel
(http://www.simtel.net/SimTel.Net/).  That's right, boys and girls, the =

infamous line-noise based editor - for the 200!  My life is complete. ;)

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

"P.S.  People like you ought to be shot." -- Myself

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> > I use vi also on the LX...mostly Calvin 2.2 and XVI.  Don't think I'v=
e
> > ever heard of "vim" tho.
>
> [comp.editors is the newsgroup for vim; FAQ should be there.]
>
> I use calvin too because it's so fast. xvi doesn't grab me personally
> because it just doesn't feel like vi to me. There's also elvis and stev=
ie.
>
> Vim is amazing. Short for "VI iMproved", it's continuously developed,
> available on several platforms (unix, atari st, amiga, dos, win95 etc).
> It is full unix vi, plus heaps more functionality. I use it only as a
> programmer's editor, because it can be tediously slow on the hp; and =
the
> executable is over 400K. But you want to hear about all that functional=
ity!
<snip>
> If you know of a vi clone with some of these features, but faster and
> smaller, please tell me so I can free up some disk space!

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I use a program I found somewhere called "Supersonic Search Tool".  It's
the fastest file finder I have ever used, and has a lot of options that =
make it
really powerful.  It's about 45K.  I use it on my big computer a lot more=
 than
I do on my palmtop, but it works just fine.  I don't remember where I got=
 it, but,
as always, check SimTel.

Ian Butler
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200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

"P.S.  People like you ought to be shot." -- Myself

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> > > Can somebody tell me where to find  a program to find files in any
> > > directory in the lx200?  I have one but it is almost 80K; I am sure=
 there
> > > must be something lighter.  Thank you in advance...

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Does anyone know of a small program that will search all files in a drive for a specific
text string in the files' contents, similar to the "Find" program in Win95?

Thanks,

Michael
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>
> Does anyone know of a small program that will search all files in a drive for a specific
> text string in the files' contents, similar to the "Find" program in Win95?

You want 'grep'.
-d option will search sub-directories.
SimTel should have it.

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>
> > > I use calvin too because it's so fast.
> >
> > Here's another one. I'm using CALVIN.  It's the best poorman's vi clone.
>
> > Would you please write the author too, just in order to let him
> > know that his program ist "still" so important to people in some
> > corner of the world and that we appreciate his work.
> >
> > The author of Calvin: Paul A Vojta <vojta@IAS.EDU>
>
> > Maybe we'll have luck to see Calvin v2.3 ...  Or maybe, you're
> > able to persuade him to release or sale his source codes, so that
> > we could hack some more functions into Calvin.
>
> > What do you say?
>
> Yes, Calvin is ace, and I'm sending off a note right away. Good idea!
>
> But a question for you calvin/vi users: I *think* I've got a hold of all
> calvin's features, but just what does !<motion> and !! do?
>
> I think they pass the addressed text into the stdin of the program
> indicated - eg fmt - and then write the stdout of that origram back into the
> file. BSo you can add a little functionality that way (but still, it's a
> few key presses).

I'd also like to know some tips you're using too. Would you
please post yours.  Here's some of mine.

I don't use ":!" quite often but I'm typing ":r !" constantly.
I type

        :r !check

to time-stamp the texts or programs I'm editing; where CHECK
is a simple program I've written to just print a date/time-
stamp in the format I want. And I'm doing the same on Sparce-
Workstations all the time. Strange enough, the /bin/vi on a
Sun Ultra is doing the same thing much slower than Calvin
does on my HP200LX (I love typing this word).

For writing something on my diary (plain text files), I have
an alias called "ego" that does:

        check -p "--- " -f filename & vi +$ filename

and the following line will be appended to the file and calvin
is positioned to the end of file and I can start writing things
instantly.

--- So 1997.09.07/15:18:02 (DST)

Once in a while I'll type e.g.

        :! ls -CF

to check the current diectory or something like that, typing

        :!!

will repeat the last :! command (ls -CF) I've typed.

I've forgotten if formatting a paragraph works in Calvin.
But I seem to have the impression that it did not work.



Since you that is reading this post use vi and would
work frequently under plain DOS, please allow me to
mention the following utilities without which I cannot
live with on my palmtop.

1. simtelnet/msdos/keyboard/wced18c.zip

   This is a replacement for DOSKEY. I cannot think of
   a reason why people don't use it as replacement for
   doskey... It is windows-aware if you want.

   if properly configured, it provides you a tcsh-like
   command-line editing envoronment including filename-
   completion (Tab) and even executable file-competion.
   So, I'm typing the [Tab]-key all the time like on
   a UNIX-workstation. And Ctrl-U, Ctrl-D, Ctrl-K,...
   even "!!".  This is one of the the main reasons why
   one could claim that working with the keyboard be
   much faster than using a pointing devices for some
   jobs.

2. simtelnet/msdos/txtutl/xgrep103.zip

   It's a grep written in assembly language! The file size
   is 3380 bytes! fast! recognizes both UNIX-and DOS-style
   newline-character (0Dh, 0Ah). I.e. you don't get the
   error messages:

        "line too long"

   like some other ports of grep. And it has an additional
   option -r to search recursively into subdirectories.
   (I don't know if I should post it once again with the
   subject "text search ...."?) NB. The author said that
   regular expression is "partially" implemented". But
   it's enough for me. (I'm not a so heavy reg. exp. user).
   Also, I don't see any reason why one does not load
   this program onto his/her palmtop.


regards
Rudi

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In a message dated 97-09-07 00:25:22 EDT, toni  write:

<< I'm just breaking in my 320LX, and miss many of the features of the
 200!  ... [I]s there anything (yet) that will help? >>

your best bet is to find out whether on not your 320 is covered by your home
owners insurance for loss or damage.  if it is, ...

cordially,

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I like FASFF360.zip, its 19K with an application of lzexe or
pklite. It can search multiple drives, go within zips, and allows
searching for several file names on one pass. It's in the Garbo
collection, the easiest way to get it is to go to www.cdrom.com
and search for the file name.

> ----------
> > > > Can somebody tell me where to find  a program to find files in any
> > > > directory in the lx200?  I have one but it is almost 80K; I am sure there
> > > > must be something lighter.  Thank you in advance...
>
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Maxfnd33.zip allows you to search for up to 15 strings at once
with and/or/not. Allows you to search within a line or paragraph for
your combinations. Try www.cdrom.com and search for the file name.
It's very fast. I am the author.

mdstockr wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a small program that will search all files in a
> drive for a specific
> text string in the files' contents, similar to the "Find" program in Win95?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael

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what does calvin let you do? where can it be found? Roy

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I have an Intel Series 2+ 4 meg flash card and have
had no luck installing on an HP 100LX or a Compaq Aero.
The # in the card is IMC004FLSP and the Compaq Win setup
identifies it as 4 meg ROM (Intel S2E4 SW).
These are the relevant lines in Config.sys:
(device=cpqdos\)ssvlsi.exe
  cs.exe
  csalloc.exe
  icardrv1.exe  (from an Intel disk)
  ms-flash.sys
If I use memdrv.exe (instead of icardrv1) the boot procees
hangs and I have to power off to get going again.
When I use "flashfmt /SOCKET 1" (from Compaq) I get this msg:
  Fatal error: GetStatus failed, error - BAD SOCKET (0B)

I am not at all sure the icardrv1.exe is a match for the card.

Can I get this to work with the Aero, and more particularly,
with a HP 100LX? (The HP runs fine with a Maxtor Flash using
M-Systems trueFFS.)

If not, what use is the card?  Newton?

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I accidently spilled a little coffee on the bottom row of my 200LX's keyboard.

Most of the bottom row keys are not responding properly.  In fact, they where not
responding at all at first.  Now there is some response, but it is not correct.  For
example:

    KEY   DISPLAY
     , ->   hn,
     . ->   gm.
     0 ->   710
     . ->   82.
     = ->   93=
     + ->   /-+

I am going to let thing dry out.  And, if the problem continues, clean it with a little
alcohol.

Any suggestions???

Thanks,

Michael
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The keyboard is about three layers of stuff, it has to come apart.
Lots of little pins from one layer hold the flexible membrane
in between it, and a layer with lots of matching holes, they
all sort of friction fit.  Come apart carefully, gently, little bit
on this corner, work across, up, down, around etc., so that
the whole thing moves maybe 1/16 inch at a time.

Wash with water, dry out, put it back.  not a nice one, since it
means you've gotta take the bottom half apart, also lots of littl
pins.  See the coyote site
D
that's http://coyote.... etc.

have fun / mark

D
D
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Can the person who responded with the ACE drivers please resend your reply.
My EXP crashed again and I lost your message.

Regards,
Qman

At 12:10 PM 9/6/97 -0700, you wrote:
>ACE Flash Driver
>
>This maybe a long shot but,
>I'm looking for the ACE Flash Card ID Driver for my 100/LX.
>The ATA flash ID is not recognized in the HP100LX, but is recognized in the
>HP200LX.
>
>So I  needs this ACE driver. If you have such an animal contact me
personally.
>
>Thanks,
>Qman
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> VHS volumes where higher and costs where lower.  The total VHS marketing
effort was also
>greater.  In the end, VHS became the standard and Beta is gone.
>

No, I still buy blank Beta tapes from Wallgreens and I really like my old
Beta Video recorder.
True, I can't rent any beta tapes, but I can record and play back.

12 years from now I will probably still enjoy my 200LX.

Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--Shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Philip Seyer -- Phone:  415-665-8933  -- author of  *What Makes Music Work*
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mdstockr wrote:

> I accidently spilled a little coffee on the bottom row of my 200LX's keyboard.

Somebody referenced my web site in a response to this problem.  I haven't actually taken
the keyboard unit itself apart yet, which is what would need to be done to clean it
manually.  (As opposed to just pouring a little alcohol where the keys are and letting it
hopefully dissolve the coffee residue.)  I hesitate to take the keyboard itself apart,
because it's not as easy to get apart as the rest of the unit.  I have a feeling it will
require pulling off the plastic overlay that goes around the keys.  I'd say let it dry out
overnight and see if the problem goes away.  Coffee is mostly water anyway, so it
shouldn't be too bad; on the other hand, if it was loaded with cream or sugar or anything,
it could be a problem even after it's dry.  If that's the case, it might be high time I
put some stuff about opening the keyboard itself on the web site.

If anyone else has taken apart the keyboard, let me know so I won't have to.  :)

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Subject:      Re: Coffee in keyboard - help

In a message dated 97-09-07 20:19:35 EDT, you write:

<<  Coffee is mostly water anyway, so it  shouldn't be too bad; on the other
hand, if it was loaded with cream or sugar or anything,  it could be a
problem even after it's dry.
  >>

which makes is clear why all reasonably developed civilizations have
considered it a serious moral error to put cream or sugar in coffee.  if we
were intended to have sweet white coffee, we would have been provided with
sweet white coffee beans.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Lynn M. Cavendish wrote:

> which makes is clear why all reasonably developed civilizations have
> considered it a serious moral error to put cream or sugar in coffee.  if we
> were intended to have sweet white coffee, we would have been provided with
> sweet white coffee beans.

I find it hard to believe that the reason all reasonably developed civilizations have
considered it a serious moral error to put cream or sugar in coffee is in case the coffee
gets spilled on the keyboard of a 200LX.  But maybe I should review my history books... :)

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> No, I still buy blank Beta tapes from Wallgreens and I really like =
my old
> Beta Video recorder.
> True, I can't rent any beta tapes, but I can record and play back.

Same here. The only difference is that I can *still* get beta tapes =
to
rent.. :-)

> 12 years from now I will probably still enjoy my 200LX.

I'll endorse this also... provided the 200LX will live that long <g>

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Actually, it seems to be clearing up.  Only one key is acting up now, ALT.  Hopefully the
moisture will be gone by morning.

Thanks for suggestions.
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Are you by ANY chance the Michael Stocker I'm related to? If you are, I
haven't seen or spoke to you in years, but by memory, I kind of doubt
you'd be on a computer bulletin board exchanging info on a pocket
computer.

Ergo, you're probably not THAT Michael Stocker.
====================
I hope your keyboard has dried and works. But I disagree with some of
what has been suggested. There's enough residue left from dried coffee
(even without milk & sugar) that I'd want to disassemble and clean the
keyboard, particularly in light of the degree of dysfunction you said it
initially displayed.

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>
>
> what does calvin let you do? where can it be found? Roy
It's a clone of vi, a VIsual editor for unix. It's kind of (very) hard to
learn, but offsets this by being pretty powerful with few key-strokes. And
once you are used to it, other editors don't feel right.

Best to download it and read the doc file - there are too many features to
state here.

Pretty sure SimTel has it; email me if you have trouble.

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Thanks a lot for those tips! Here's some of mine.
Dos stuff, unix stuff, and Calvin stuff:

>         :r !check
>
> to time-stamp the texts or programs I'm editing; where CHECK
> is a simple program I've written to just print a date/time-
> stamp in the format I want.
That's funny! i just wrote a little batch file for time-stamping
a program:
                @echo off
                echo /*-----------
                more < t.dat | date
                echo ------------*/

where t.dat contains just a CR, so that date doesn't hang while waiting
for a new date. Pretty it ain't. That's all I can say really. :)

>         :! ls -CF
On unix, ls is aliased to "ls -F"! After reading your post, I aliased it
to "ls -CF".
dir is aliased to ls -l, so that I don't have to remember what machine
I'm on.
On the palmtop, ls.bat is

        @echo off
        dir /w /l /on %1 %2 %3 %4
        Rem wide, lowercase, in order of name

I'm using ^6 alot now: it's an alias for :e #, which means swap to the
previous file you looked at. Pressing a second time swaps back. This is
great for any cutting & pasting, or tracing programs, or comparing
program output or....


Another programming trick someone just told me is to use /// comments in C++
for very worthwhile comments. Then, you grep /// and redirect to create a
man page automatically!

Brendan

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qman if you get that driver send it to me mine is bad too agentrapid@aol.com
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So many possibilities!
I include a doskey macro in my autoexec.bat like so:
doskey /insert
doskey ff=dir\$1/s$bmore
doskey view=type $1$bmore

Then I just type ff file.
If I want to look at it I type view file.
Seeya,
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A couple of keys started playing up a little on my lx so I gave them a
blast with CRC's CO Contact Cleaner - a precision electronic cleaning
solvent. It leaves no residue and containd no lubricants - so the lable
says!

Worked for me,

Peter.

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Text of message from KMAZ@CHEVRON.COM, 5 Sep 1997, 07:00 PM
> [...]  I'm still working on attaching our NT servers and
> tweeking the memory.  If anyone's interested I can post the results of
> those experiments.  Hopefully this note will get archived somewhere for
> future reference.

I am interested.  Let me know if you are able to attach to NT.

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Text of message from igg@SBCORP.RU, 7 Sep 1997, 04:15 AM
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know, whether who bought 33.6 FaxModems or Flash Cards
> of Pretec Electronics Corp.? How they have recommended themselves from
> the point of view of quality and compatibility with 200LX?

I can't say anything about use with a modem, but I tried a 40 Meg pretec
flash card (they have about 2 different types, this was supposedly the
best of them) and it worked fine from a compatibility standpoint.  I
wasn't satisfied with performance, however (it performed slower than my 10
meg SanDisk which had been Stacked).  No drivers needed.

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Does anyone know how I can defragment my palmtop drive(s) other than backing
everything up, removing everything, and putting everything back?  I have a
full copy of DOS 5.0 on floppy but defrag doesn't seem to be included until
DOS release 6 which doesn't seem to work on the palmtop.

Jeffrey Veiss (jsv@bms.com)                   PO Box 5200
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> That's funny! i just wrote a little batch file for time-stamping
> a program:
>                 @echo off
>                 echo /*-----------
>                 more < t.dat | date
>                 echo ------------*/
>
> where t.dat contains just a CR, so that date doesn't hang while waiting
> for a new date. Pretty it ain't. That's all I can say really. :)

It's a nice tip not limited to vi-users. So, I've quoted it again for
those who missed you post.  I've done something like that before for
FORMAT (??).

> I'm using ^6 alot now: it's an alias for :e #, which means swap to the
> previous file you looked at. Pressing a second time swaps back. This is
> great for any cutting & pasting, or tracing programs, or comparing
> program output or....

I don't follow, Brendan. How do you "alias" things in Calvin since
"map" is not supported. I need that to save some life of my LX-keyboard!
More about using ":e" please.

And I think I'll have to start getting used to editing multiple files
after reading your post. I've been writing things out to disk-files
and restart vi to edit new files and read them in.  It is idiotic.  :(

> Another programming trick someone just told me is to use /// comments in C++
> for very worthwhile comments. Then, you grep /// and redirect to create a
> man page automatically!

Very nice tip. I'll have to do this for C-comments too!!  But I don't
understand why does it have to be three slashes instead of two????

By the way, do you know some way in Calvin to APPEND texts to
named BUFFER. Calvin does not seem to differentiate between
"a and "A.  I need this to collect declarations of C-functions
and put them in header file as prototypes.

regards
Rudi

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> Pretty sure SimTel has it; email me if you have trouble.
simtelnet/msdos/editor/calvin22.zip (file size: 37823)

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You might want to consider the fact that you really don't need to defragment a RAM disk,
since it is a solid state device with no mechanical seek time to optimize.

--- On Mon, 8 Sep 1997 09:18:37 -0400  "Jeffrey Veiss (CTG)" <jsv@BMS.COM> wrote:

>Does anyone know how I can defragment my palmtop drive(s)

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HP>Does anyone know how I can defragment my palmtop drive(s) other than backing
HP>everything up, removing everything, and putting everything back?  I have a
HP>full copy of DOS 5.0 on floppy but defrag doesn't seem to be included until
HP>DOS release 6 which doesn't seem to work on the palmtop.

HP>Jeffrey Veiss (jsv@bms.com)                   PO Box 5200
HP>Network Engineer                              Princeton, NJ 08543-5200
HP>Corporate Telecommunications                  (609) 419-6141
HP>Bristol-Myers Squibb, Inc.                    (609) 419-7110 (fax)

  you can use norton utilities for dos, i've that utilities on mine, so
everytime i have a problem or a lost cluster, i run NDD (disk doctor),
or Speedisk, this version is old, but it works fine on the palmtop, and
it speeds up the disk access too.


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On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Peter Scarth wrote:

> So many possibilities!
> I include a doskey macro in my autoexec.bat like so:
> doskey /insert
> doskey ff=dir\$1/s$bmore
> doskey view=type $1$bmore
>
> Then I just type ff file.
> If I want to look at it I type view file.

Thanks for that tip. Another DOS tidbit I slept thru while they went from
DOS 3.2 to 6.22.

I had been using DOSKEY cuz I do cmdline stuff alot and it's helpful to
recall cmds.

I also had several one line batch files (ie, a.bat to just do "a:") that
would be better handled using DOSKEY (like "alias" in Unix).

This should free up several K-bytes as each "simple" one liner batch file
takes a minimum of 1024 bytes on my 20mb card.

Thanks again.

- Longden

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How about the old Norton FindFile "FF".

John


At 07:26 AM 9/8/97 -0700, you wrote:
>On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Peter Scarth wrote:
>
>> So many possibilities!
>> I include a doskey macro in my autoexec.bat like so:
>> doskey /insert
>> doskey ff=dir\$1/s$bmore
>> doskey view=type $1$bmore
>>
>> Then I just type ff file.
>> If I want to look at it I type view file.
>
>Thanks for that tip. Another DOS tidbit I slept thru while they went from
>DOS 3.2 to 6.22.
>
>I had been using DOSKEY cuz I do cmdline stuff alot and it's helpful to
>recall cmds.
>
>I also had several one line batch files (ie, a.bat to just do "a:") that
>would be better handled using DOSKEY (like "alias" in Unix).
>
>This should free up several K-bytes as each "simple" one liner batch file
>takes a minimum of 1024 bytes on my 20mb card.
>
>Thanks again.
>
>- Longden
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<<12 years from now I will probably still enjoy my 200LX.>>

This statement is so true, and this is a statement that cannot be said of=

any of today's Win95 machines or WinCE machines. It is because the 200LX =
is
a uniquely capable stand-alone PC which does all that most people need a =
PC
to do.

     Carl

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<<> 12 years from now I will probably still enjoy my 200LX.

I'll endorse this also... provided the 200LX will live that long <g>>>

The 200LX will continue to be produced as long as people keep buying it,
according to Khaw. The problem for most people is finding it. If anyone h=
as
some excellent, low cost ideas on getting it more widely sold, I'll liste=
n.
We have a rewards program for sales leads too if anyone wants to inquire
privately with me.

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On Sat, 6 Sep 1997, Nan-shan Chen wrote:

> Would you please write the author too, just in order to let him
> know that his program ist "still" so important to people in some
> corner of the world and that we appreciate his work.
>
> The author of Calvin: Paul A Vojta <vojta@IAS.EDU>
>
> Maybe we'll have luck to see Calvin v2.3 ...  Or maybe, you're
> able to persuade him to release or sale his source codes, so that
> we could hack some more functions into Calvin.

Good point. I'll probably email him with an "attaboy" that he probably
deserves.

- Longden

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wced:

I tried this, but the up-arrow key doesn't work (^p works, but I'm used
to DOSKEY now!) Any idea why?

calvin:
> > I'm using ^6 alot now: it's an alias for :e #, which means swap to the
> > previous file you looked at. Pressing a second time swaps back. This is
> > great for any cutting & pasting, or tracing programs, or comparing
> > program output or....
>
> I don't follow, Brendan. How do you "alias" things in Calvin since
> "map" is not supported. I need that to save some life of my LX-keyboard!
> More about using ":e" please.

"^6" is a built-in alias, according to vi.doc. You're right: you can't add
any more. )^: If calvin had this feature, we could extend it however we
wanted. )^;

> And I think I'll have to start getting used to editing multiple files
> after reading your post. I've been writing things out to disk-files
> and restart vi to edit new files and read them in.  It is idiotic.  :(
Try using "calvin file1 file2" to start with.

You can invoke calvin with many files at once:
        calvin file1 file2 file3
":n" will then go to the next file in this argument list; ":rew" will rewind
to the first one.

":e file" means edit file; if you then say ":e #", calvin will return to
the original file in the position you left it. However, calvin needs to
write out the file when changing, so it's exactly the same as what you are
doing, but automated.
NB ":e #" [or ^6 - which is on the same key as "'", which returns to the
last /search - a similar function] doesn't know about the argument list;
you must actually load another file before you can swap between them.

A pleasant surprise I had with calvin is that any motion command can be
used anywhere: so "yG" yanks to the end of file; and "df)" deletes up to
and including the next ")"

> > Another programming trick someone just told me is to use /// comments in C++
> > for very worthwhile comments. Then, you grep /// and redirect to create a
> > man page automatically!
>
> Very nice tip. I'll have to do this for C-comments too!!  But I don't
> understand why does it have to be three slashes instead of two????
Thanks, Rudi! It's to differentiate between the comments you want to go
into the man page, and the others that are just comments.

> By the way, do you know some way in Calvin to APPEND texts to
> named BUFFER. Calvin does not seem to differentiate between
> "a and "A.
> I need this to collect declarations of C-functions
> and put them in header file as prototypes.
Yeah, collecting proto-types is a hassle, isn't it! There are utilities to
do this for you, but I haven't tried them...

vi doesn't differentiate case for named buffers, so I guess that's why
calvin doesn't and I don't think you can append to buffers either...

perhaps you could write a program that reads in standard in, and appends
it to a file. Actually, I think "more >> file" will do this. Put that in
a file called a.bat, and then say with cursor at the start of the
prototype:
        "!$a<CR>"
                - NB calvin jumps to the command line after you hit $
                        ($ is the motion to take you to the end of line)
        or just try:
        "!$more >> file"
I just tried this, and it does work, but: file must exist first for the
appendation (sp?) to work; and the line is effectively deleted, because
more's output is redirected to the file, and there is nothing for calvin
to replace what it sent out, except for some <CR>s.

You're better off writing your own little program to do this, I feel.
Ie to append stdin to a file; and to also write it to stdout, so calvin
has something to put back in the text. [":w !more >> file" seems more
appropriate, but always sends the whole file you are editing out: you
can't specify with a motion.]

Brendan
PS what a long post I have produced! I hope some other people are interested
in this, or we should go to email, to avoid cluttering up everyone's mail
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On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, John Ramos wrote:

> How about the old Norton FindFile "FF".
>
> >On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Peter Scarth wrote:
> >
> >> So many possibilities!
> >> I include a doskey macro in my autoexec.bat like so:
> >> doskey /insert
> >> doskey ff=dir\$1/s$bmore
> >> doskey view=type $1$bmore
> >>
> >> Then I just type ff file.

If you're already using DOSKEY (ie, for recalling old commands), then
adding the lines he suggested will not take anymore RAM resources nor the
9k needed for Norton FF.

- Longden

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As I wade through the date stamp and file find threads I wonder if
this list is the best forum for questions and discussions about DOS.
It seems that less and less of the traffic on this list is HP LX
specific.  I guess I may get flamed for making this suggestion though
it's not meant to antagonize anyone.  Anticipating a common
counter-thread, I know how to filter mail; that's not the point.
Lists which become unfocussed eventually serve no one's interest.

/breck

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On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, breck witte wrote:

> As I wade through the date stamp and file find threads I wonder if
> this list is the best forum for questions and discussions about DOS.
> It seems that less and less of the traffic on this list is HP LX
> specific.  I guess I may get flamed for making this suggestion though
> it's not meant to antagonize anyone.  Anticipating a common
> counter-thread, I know how to filter mail; that's not the point.
> Lists which become unfocussed eventually serve no one's interest.

We might be guilty of some digression (to vi editors and DOS, et al), but
in the end, it's because some of us find that's a way for us to milk more
functionality out of our LX...and that's really the purpose of this list
isn't it?

Admittedly we would like to talk about functions that serve a wider
audience, but the LX being as flexible as it is, is different things to
different people (otherwise we'd be WinCe users <g>).

That notwithstanding, I think several of us have already taken our
discussion to private email so as to not totally bore the rest of you.

- Longden

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DEFRAG NOT NEEDED ON SRAM OR FLASH RAM MEMORY.

YOU GAIN NOTHING.

SPENCE K4KEP

Jeffrey Veiss (CTG) wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how I can defragment my palmtop drive(s) other than backing
> everything up, removing everything, and putting everything back?  I have a
> full copy of DOS 5.0 on floppy but defrag doesn't seem to be included until
> DOS release 6 which doesn't seem to work on the palmtop.
>
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On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, BOYD S. MINER wrote:

> DEFRAG NOT NEEDED ON SRAM OR FLASH RAM MEMORY.
>
> YOU GAIN NOTHING.

Unless you need a large contiguous space (such as required by Times2Tech
for EMM, or recommended for Software Carousel).

Also, undeleting files would probably be more successful with defragged
disk than otherwise.

Tho I agree that there's probably zero benefit in disk performance.

- Longden

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Hello,

>                 more < t.dat | date

> where t.dat contains just a CR, so that date doesn't hang while waiting
> for a new date. Pretty it ain't. That's all I can say really. :)

Why don't you use

        echo. | date

with exactly the same effect? ;-)

Yours ever, Igor Grabelnikov
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Hello,

> I can't say anything about use with a modem, but I tried a 40 Meg pretec
> flash card (they have about 2 different types, this was supposedly the
> best of them) and it worked fine from a compatibility standpoint.  I
> wasn't satisfied with performance, however (it performed slower than my
10
> meg SanDisk which had been Stacked).

Whether you have any results of testing? Is it so appreciable?

Yours ever, Igor Grabelnikov
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On Mon, 8 Sep 1997 07:43:08 -0700, you wrote:

>How about the old Norton FindFile "FF".
>
>John
This program works VERY Well for me...
Hope others will give it a try... =09
        Dean

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Text of message from igg@SBCORP.RU, 8 Sep 1997, 12:45 PM
> Hello,
>
>[...]
>
> Whether you have any results of testing? Is it so appreciable?
>

I no longer have the results, but it was noticeable enough that I went to
the trouble of performing the test.  I found another SanDisk OEM'es by
Magic Ram at the same price.

- Danny

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>
> wced:
>
> I tried this, but the up-arrow key doesn't work (^p works, but I'm used
> to DOSKEY now!) Any idea why?

Yes, this happens on different computers. You must re-run the
configuration program with the key-data-file. (Forgotten how
it is called). I'll mail you my config-data and binary privately.

I remember having spent some time to configured it to the
"optimal" state I want. So you could just start with modidying
my configuration. It works wonderfully.  Are you sure you don't
need the [Tab]?  :)

Also, there is no chance to test WCED with DOSKEY already loaded.
One has to start the system without DOSKEY in order to be able to
test WCED.  WCED is surely interesting for all LX-users.

> calvin:
>  ......
>
> Brendan
> PS what a long post I have produced! I hope some other people are interested
> in this, or we should go to email, to avoid cluttering up everyone's mail
> boxes...

So, I've cut them. Thanks for the efforts. I'll keep them and
try it out.  There are lots of new things to me... and it's
exciting to know Calvin does something more than I currently
know.

regards
rudi

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Hi,

Sorry, it's me again bringing the Calvin up. But I've
forgotten to mention it in the thread and it's general.
I'll try to be short.  Under SysMgr, you probably will have
no difficulties finding the cursor. So you might like to
skip this post.

For those, who are using Calvin, or other things that switch
the cursor to a line, such as the Calvin editor, so that you
don't find the cursor, just drop me a mail for a tiny TSR
called "bcursor" coded in assembler.

No, that one in eddie dos not work. TSR would probably be the
only way out. This program occupies you only one allocation
unit of your disk and minimal amount of memory (forgotten
how many).  I've loaded it since I've coded it without any
problem. (Unloadable, because I don't know how).

It is the best solution of the cursor-problem under Calvin
I've found so far. If you'd like to hack it yourself, and
make it unloadable, please let me know, and I'll append
the assembly-source.

regards
Rudi
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Are all these engines really faster than the Global Search on SUPER?
(Or am I missing the point, that a file finder only finds the name of a
file?)
Thanks.


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Has anyone downloaded and used any of these files?

Rodger


Original Massage:

I have enjoyed this group and the sharing of information. Now it's my turn.

If any of you are interested in any Astronomy graphic files point your web browser to:

http://www.mich.com/~rbird2/palmsky.html

This is a hidden link available to only this group for now.

On this page you can download some of the graphic files I use on my HP100LX.

You will find moon maps, star finder (planisphere) views, Views from North, South, East, and West, and a detailed September 1997 map.

Most of  the maps are created for the northern hemisphere of the United States.

Check it out! The price is right - FREE.

Rodger

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I feel your pain!  I am trying to support users that have this ..stuff..  Has anyone run across a forum like this for HP300/320 users?

Appreciate any help.
Ray

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I'm just breaking in my 320LX, and miss many of the features of the
200!  OK, I know I could go back, but is there anything (yet) that will
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Examples: hotkeys to go directly to applications, quickkeys to category
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I hit the site and looked at the pics.  Didn't look of interest to me so I didn't try it on my HP

Ray

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Sent:   Monday, September 08, 1997 18:28
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Subject:        Astronomy (the night sky) Graphic files available.

Has anyone downloaded and used any of these files?

Rodger


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I have enjoyed this group and the sharing of information. Now it's my turn.

If any of you are interested in any Astronomy graphic files point your web browser to:

http://www.mich.com/~rbird2/palmsky.html

This is a hidden link available to only this group for now.

On this page you can download some of the graphic files I use on my HP100LX.

You will find moon maps, star finder (planisphere) views, Views from North, South, East, and West, and a detailed September 1997 map.

Most of  the maps are created for the northern hemisphere of the United States.

Check it out! The price is right - FREE.

Rodger

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> You might want to consider the fact that you really don't need to
> defragment a RAM disk, since it is a solid state device with no mechanic=
al
> seek time to optimize.

Actually there is at least one time when you need to do this and that's
when a program or utility needs a large portion of contiguous free =
space
(like EMS200 or Software Carousel).

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>For those, who are using Calvin, or other things that switch
>the cursor to a line, such as the Calvin editor, so that you
>don't find the cursor, just drop me a mail for a tiny TSR
>called "bcursor" coded in assembler.

Another way is to use the "block cursor in DOS" option in Buddy.

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Put subscribe in the subject line and go there. Plenty of meatheads on this
group!

"Windows CE Talk List" <WindowsCE-Talk@WindowsCE.com>


At 06:50 PM 9/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I feel your pain!  I am trying to support users that have this ..stuff..
Has anyone run across a forum like this for HP300/320 users?
>
>Appreciate any help.
>Ray
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:   Toni/Otis Marechaux [SMTP:marechau@CLARK.NET]
>Sent:   Sunday, September 07, 1997 00:15
>To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject:        Make my 320 act like my 200?
>
>I'm just breaking in my 320LX, and miss many of the features of the
>200!  OK, I know I could go back, but is there anything (yet) that will
>help?
>Examples: hotkeys to go directly to applications, quickkeys to category
>listings, on-screen macros (ie, function keys), etc.
>
>Help!
>Toni
>
>marechau@clark.net
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     Hi!
     Yes at WindowsCE-Talk@WindowsCE.com.

     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-Chainsaw (Chainsaw@DMV.COM) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    9/8/97 4:50 PM


I feel your pain!  I am trying to support users that have this ..stuff..  Has an
yone run across a forum like this for HP300/320 users?

Appreciate any help.
Ray

-----Original Message-----
From:   Toni/Otis Marechaux [SMTP:marechau@CLARK.NET]
Sent:   Sunday, September 07, 1997 00:15
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Make my 320 act like my 200?

I'm just breaking in my 320LX, and miss many of the features of the
200!  OK, I know I could go back, but is there anything (yet) that will
help?
Examples: hotkeys to go directly to applications, quickkeys to category
listings, on-screen macros (ie, function keys), etc.

Help!
Toni

marechau@clark.net

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     Hi!
     You got that right about the M............ If you say something like
     "I can do that on my 200LX". They all sound like a punch of KKK's
     ready to lynch you. So I just read there digest. but there is nothing
     good in it.


     Helmut in Colorado

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I've had luck in the past cleaning out electronic components from spills
by re-wetting the object (ideally immediately before it has a chance to
dry inside the unit) with distilled water and vacuuming it out
immediately. Repeat a number of times, dry it out, and hopefully the
solids will be dissolved and it will work again. If you don't use too
much water, (so it doesn't run down into the computer itself) you might
even do it without taking the unit apart.

Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles


Mark fraser wrote:
>
> The keyboard is about three layers of stuff, it has to come apart.
> Lots of little pins from one layer hold the flexible membrane
>

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On Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:17:07 -0400, breck witte wrote:

>As I wade through the date stamp and file find threads I wonder if
>this list is the best forum for questions and discussions about DOS.
>It seems that less and less of the traffic on this list is HP LX
>specific.  I guess I may get flamed for making this suggestion though
>it's not meant to antagonize anyone.  Anticipating a common
>counter-thread, I know how to filter mail; that's not the point.
>Lists which become unfocussed eventually serve no one's interest.

I can understand your point, but we must bear in mind that the beauty
of the HP LX *is* the MSDOS. The hints and tips we've seen recently
are extremely useful, and I've archived a lot of it. Even though I've
been using MSDOS since v1, I've never really delved into some of the
more unusual ideas seen here. In a tiny machine, these ideas help to
keep it running at its optimum.

--=20
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Actually,

I put a little bit of alcohol on a q-tip and applied it around the affected key, and
worked them several time with all batteries removed.  Now they all work OK, without
problem.

Luckely, I did a complete back-up about an hour before this happened, so nothing was lost.

Thanks.

--- On Mon, 8 Sep 1997 18:54:00 -0700  Bob Aldrich <robert@COLUMNIST.COM> wrote:

>I've had luck in the past cleaning out electronic components from spills
>by re-wetting the object (ideally immediately before it has a chance to
>dry inside the unit) with distilled water and vacuuming it out
>immediately. Repeat a number of times, dry it out, and hopefully the
>solids will be dissolved and it will work again. If you don't use too
>much water, (so it doesn't run down into the computer itself) you might
>even do it without taking the unit apart.
>
>Bob Aldrich
>Los Angeles
>
>
>Mark fraser wrote:
>>
>> The keyboard is about three layers of stuff, it has to come apart.
>> Lots of little pins from one layer hold the flexible membrane
>>
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>>Subject:        Make my 320 act like my 200?
>>
>>I'm just breaking in my 320LX, and miss many of the features of the
>>200!  OK, I know I could go back, but is there anything (yet) that will
>>help?
>>Examples: hotkeys to go directly to applications, quickkeys to category
>>listings, on-screen macros (ie, function keys), etc.
>>
>>Help!
>>Toni

I wish I could help but the 320LX is not that good of an actor!

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Could it really be that counter-productive to simply advertise the
200LX,  using some of the salient points that have been brought up here
recently? The little tyco may not have broad appeal, just as DOS never
did, but certainly there is a "cult" appeal, for those who know they are
better than all those windows junkies out there! A market could
conceivably be cultivated and continued on some basis like this for a
very long time!


Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles
> The 200LX will continue to be produced as long as people keep buying it,
> according to Khaw. The problem for most people is finding it. If anyone has
> some excellent, low cost ideas on getting it more widely sold, I'll listen.
> We have a rewards program for sales leads too if anyone wants to inquire
> privately with me.

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Hi Rudi,

> For those, who are using Calvin, or other things that switch
> the cursor to a line, such as the Calvin editor, so that you
> don't find the cursor, just drop me a mail for a tiny TSR
> called "bcursor" coded in assembler.

Yes, please send me a copy! I compiled a cursor change program
from "snippets" that makes the cursor bigger and easier to find;
but as soon as you switch to insert mode in Calvin, it gets
small again. Does "bcursor" maintain the large size *within*
Calvin? My main problem was that I couldn't find the cursor
after a "/"

Thanks!

BTW "snippets" has got a lot of great stuff in it. I'll post the
URL if I can find it; but pretty sure I got it on SimTel.

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It might be interesting to do a survey of the list and get some data about what sort of
person typically buys a 200LX.

Bob Aldrich wrote:

> Could it really be that counter-productive to simply advertise the
> 200LX,  using some of the salient points that have been brought up here
> recently? The little tyco may not have broad appeal, just as DOS never
> did, but certainly there is a "cult" appeal, for those who know they are

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<<Could it really be that counter-productive to simply advertise the
200LX,  using some of the salient points that have been brought up here
recently? The little tyco may not have broad appeal, just as DOS never
did, but certainly there is a "cult" appeal, for those who know they are
better than all those windows junkies out there!>>

It's just not that simple. In what do you advertise? Advertising is
expensive and there is a very slim margin on these with little room for
marketing expenses. What magazines or journals have the type of readershi=
p
that could attract sufficient buyers to pay for the ad? How big and what =
do
you say in the ad? Not so easy when you really think about it.

     Carl

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One of the file finders I found had a *lot* of extra options!
It's called, FF.COM (like the old Norton utility)..
It written in assembly language so it is very small and super fast.
It always reports how long it takes to do anything.
You can do things like:

   Jump into a subdirectory after finding a file.
   Search the found files for text.
   Perform some DOS command on the file that is found.
   Copy a set of files somewhere.
   Delete a set of files (dangerous!)
   Delete a set of files (asking for confirmation before deletion of each one)
   Send a Form Feed to the printer (Guess why)

Etc.

I'll give specifics on how to get this FF.COM utility later,
if anyone is interested.   (Don't have the details at time of this writing)


At 05:14 PM 9/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Are all these engines really faster than the Global Search on SUPER?
>(Or am I missing the point, that a file finder only finds the name of a
>file?)
>Thanks.

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I don't get it.  The HP is one of the new (only?)
DOS based machines.  So DOS and the HP 200 LX
go hand-in-hand.  I don't think you can separate these
topics.  We need to understand DOS and understand
it well to get the most out of our HP.  Where else
is there really much motivation to use DOS?


At 11:17 AM 9/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
>As I wade through the date stamp and file find threads I wonder if
>this list is the best forum for questions and discussions about DOS.
>It seems that less and less of the traffic on this list is HP LX
>specific.  I guess I may get flamed for making this suggestion though
>it's not meant to antagonize anyone.  Anticipating a common
>counter-thread, I know how to filter mail; that's not the point.
>Lists which become unfocussed eventually serve no one's interest.
>
>/breck
>
>breck witte     Brevis esse laboro, Obscurus fio.       witte@columbia.edu
>
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It's not advertising that's needed.  It is education through
articles and letters to editors, etc.  This discussion group, itself,
is one way.

BTW, I had a rough time buying an LX once I finally decided
against the WINCE machines.  I called HP several times.
Everywhere I called, the salespeople tried to discourage me--
even the places that carried the LX were not supportive.
"That's an older model; you don't want that," etc.

At 12:22 AM 9/9/97 -0400, you wrote:
><<Could it really be that counter-productive to simply advertise the
>200LX,  using some of the salient points that have been brought up here
>recently? The little tyco may not have broad appeal, just as DOS never
>did, but certainly there is a "cult" appeal, for those who know they are
>better than all those windows junkies out there!>>
>
>It's just not that simple. In what do you advertise? Advertising is
>expensive and there is a very slim margin on these with little room for
>marketing expenses. What magazines or journals have the type of readership
>that could attract sufficient buyers to pay for the ad? How big and what do
>you say in the ad? Not so easy when you really think about it.
>
>     Carl
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NetGuide Magazine had an article on palmtops.  Again the 200LX was
not mentioned.  When this happens we need to write to such
magazines and explain the advantages of the 200 LX.

DOS is spoken of as "archaic" elsewhere in this magazine.
We need to educate people that for some purposes, well-written DOS
programs much more appropriate than Windows or
WINCEs appliations.  We need to explain how and why.

My colleagues, who for the most part use Windows NT and
PowerBuilder, now really appreciate the little DOS utilities
and DOS batch file programs that I have been writing for them.
But it has been a struggle.

At 10:40 AM 9/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
><<> 12 years from now I will probably still enjoy my 200LX.
>
>I'll endorse this also... provided the 200LX will live that long <g>>>
>
>The 200LX will continue to be produced as long as people keep buying it,
>according to Khaw. The problem for most people is finding it. If anyone has
>some excellent, low cost ideas on getting it more widely sold, I'll listen.
>We have a rewards program for sales leads too if anyone wants to inquire
>privately with me.
>
>     Carl Merkle
>     Shier Systems & Software, Inc.
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Hello all,

I have an old copy of Stacker 2, and Stacker 3.  Does anyone have any
tips on which one I should use?  Pro's, Con's.

I have a 200LX 2mb, with 1mb and 2mb SRAM (not flash) cards. I would
be looking at stacking the lot.  My storeage is 50/50
programs/data(mostly from built in apps).

Thanking you kindly

David Eggins
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Hello All,

Has anyone noticed this bug in the built in database apps?

1 Create Database with Notes field (must not be
up against bottom of screen).
2 Put more than one screen worth of data in the
notes field.
3 Scroll the notes field up so there is some
data below the last visible line.
4 Go to the end of the last visible line. 5 Hit the Delete key.
6 Now keep hitting the down arrow.

If you have the same bug as me, you should see the cursor has gone
below the notes field.  Each time you press the down arrow, the lines
entering the screen are displayed twice!!

Hiting the up arrow until the duplicated lines dissapear will restore
the screen, and data to normal.  It is only a display problem, your data
is not affected.

Cool Huh!  :-)


David Eggins
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PS.  The only reason I found this is because I have a mega database in
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HP will not but supportive because they will look at HP 200LX sales as lost 300/320LX
sales.

Too bad that they don't look at 75% of all 200LX sales as being lost sales for competitor
WinCE machines!

--- On Mon, 8 Sep 1997 22:58:29 -0700  Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM> wrote:

>BTW, I had a rough time buying an LX once I finally decided
>against the WINCE machines.  I called HP several times.
>Everywhere I called, the salespeople tried to discourage me--
>even the places that carried the LX were not supportive.
>"That's an older model; you don't want that," etc.

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When you write to magazines, try not to be confrontational about the issue.  Instead, try
to be informative.  This way, the letter will more apt to be published.

--- On Mon, 8 Sep 1997 22:19:08 -0700  Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM> wrote:

>NetGuide Magazine had an article on palmtops.  Again the 200LX was
>not mentioned.  When this happens we need to write to such
>magazines and explain the advantages of the 200 LX.
>
>DOS is spoken of as "archaic" elsewhere in this magazine.
>We need to educate people that for some purposes, well-written DOS
>programs much more appropriate than Windows or
>WINCEs appliations.  We need to explain how and why.
>
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Jeffrey Veiss (CTG) wrote:

> I'm wondering if the XJ4336 is a potential possibility since it's
> close to
> the rating the palmtop can handle (150mA according to the FAQ).  Has
> anyone
> tried using it with a HP palmtop?  Are there any other possibilities
> out there?
>

I have one of these and have not been successful using it with the 100
or 200lx,
although--much to my chagrin--it seems to work fine in the Cassiopeia I
got for
Christmas!  I don't think you can use those high speeds via cellular
anyway, so
I'd recommend one of the 14.4 models which can be had cheaply these
days.

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David Eggins wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have an old copy of Stacker 2, and Stacker 3.  Does anyone have any
> tips on which one I should use?  Pro's, Con's.
>
> I have a 200LX 2mb, with 1mb and 2mb SRAM (not flash) cards. I would
> be looking at stacking the lot.  My storeage is 50/50
> programs/data(mostly from built in apps).
>
> Thanking you kindly
>
> David Eggins
> Canberra, Australia
> davee@iname.com

I have used Stacker 3 for several years on a 100 and 2 200's with no
problems.  It virtually doubles the space on my 10MB and 20 MB flash
cards.

Jim Smith

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> > For those, who are using Calvin, or other things that switch
> > the cursor to a line, such as the Calvin editor, so that you
> > don't find the cursor, just drop me a mail for a tiny TSR
> > called "bcursor" coded in assembler.
>
> small again. Does "bcursor" maintain the large size *within*
> Calvin? My main problem was that I couldn't find the cursor
> after a "/"

Yes, within Calvin too. The TSR is monitoring any call to the
interrupt (forgotten which one I've used). Therefore, if any
program tries to change cursor size by interrupting, he's got
no chance.  I also had this very annoying problem; even now
with a block-cursor. But I'll just issue a '|' or '0' command
to move the cursor to the first column in order to locate it.

> BTW "snippets" has got a lot of great stuff in it. I'll post the
> URL if I can find it; but pretty sure I got it on SimTel.

I could not find the URL either. There are very useful codes.
Rudi

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----- forwarded message -----

Date Tue, 09 Sep 1997 14:54:50 +0000 From Al <wyn@alphalink.com.au>
Subject Re: Coffee in keyboard - help

> Date          Mon, 8 Sep 1997 22:13:07 -0400
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> From          mdstockr <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
> Subject       Re: Coffee in keyboard - help
> To            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> I put a little bit of alcohol on a q-tip and applied it around
> the affected key, and
> worked them several time with all batteries removed.  Now they
> all work OK, without
> problem.
>

TRY WITH A GOOD COGNAC OR A GOOD RHUM

IT'S REALY GOOD WITH THE COFFE

;o ))

Alain


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Bob Aldrich wrote:

> I've had luck in the past cleaning out electronic components from
> spills
> by re-wetting the object (ideally immediately before it has a chance
> to
> dry inside the unit) with distilled water and vacuuming it out
> immediately. Repeat a number of times, dry it out, and hopefully the
> solids will be dissolved and it will work again. If you don't use too
> much water, (so it doesn't run down into the computer itself) you
> might
> even do it without taking the unit apart.
>
> Bob Aldrich
> Los Angeles
>
> Mark fraser wrote:
> >
> > The keyboard is about three layers of stuff, it has to come apart.
> > Lots of little pins from one layer hold the flexible membrane
> >
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 and compressed air! Get one of thoses cans of  "dust off" and use that
to dry the keyboard out (blows all the gritty bits out from between the
layers)

--
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Here's a summary of the responses I've received concerning a defrag program
for the HPLX Palmtop:

Reasons for defrag'ing a palmtop "disk":

        When you need contiguous uncompressed disk space for certain software.
        (e.g. Jam, Stacker, EMS200, Software Carousel)

        To optimize the chances of undeleting files.

        NOT to optimize file access speed since the "disks" are solid state
        devices with no mechanical seek time to optimize.

Software available:

        Norton Disk Doctor's Speed Disk for DOS (not sure what version).

        OPTIMIZE.EXE which ships with the palmtop version of Software Carousel.

        If the drive is compressed, use the utilities that came with the
        compression software (e.g. use JMAX for Jam'd drives).

Thank you all for your responses.  My original reason for wanting this was
so that I could lay down a new Jam drive without deleting everything, laying
it down, and putting everything back since it requires contiguous disk space.

Jeffrey Veiss (jsv@bms.com)                   PO Box 5200
Network Engineer                              Princeton, NJ 08543-5200
Corporate Telecommunications                  (609) 419-6141
Bristol-Myers Squibb, Inc.                    (609) 419-7110 (fax)

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>As I wade through the date stamp and file find threads I wonder if
>this list is the best forum for questions and discussions about DOS.
>It seems that less and less of the traffic on this list is HP LX
>specific.  I guess I may get flamed for making this suggestion though
>it's not meant to antagonize anyone.  Anticipating a common
>counter-thread, I know how to filter mail; that's not the point.
>Lists which become unfocussed eventually serve no one's interest.
>
>/breck

Last time I switched on my HP 200LX it was running on DOS. :) DOS discussio=
ns
are highly motivated on this list. Many HP 95/100/200LX users use the=
 palmtop
for more than appointments, phone book etc. With old DOS programs and=
 trix we
can use this palmtop an do VERY powerful things. Only because we have=
 a
SysMgr, should we leave out DOS when it can enhance our usage?

Regards,

Jorgen


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Jorgen Wallgren writes:
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 < Last time I switched on my HP 200LX it was running on DOS. :) DOS discussio=
 < ns
 < are highly motivated on this list. Many HP 95/100/200LX users use the=
 <  palmtop
 < for more than appointments, phone book etc. With old DOS programs and=
 <  trix we
 < can use this palmtop an do VERY powerful things. Only because we have=
 <  a
 < SysMgr, should we leave out DOS when it can enhance our usage?
 <

Of course we all use DOS; I spend about 95% of my time in DOS; but why
limit yourself to other HPLX users when getting advice about DOS?  If
I buy a car (let's say it's a Porsche) and want to talk about car
audio, why should I limit myself to what other Porsche owners know
about car audio?  That's what asking generic DOS questions (finding
files for instance ) on this list is like.  If on the other hand I
want to know specific things about speaker placement within my car, a
group of Porsche owners is the appropriate forum.  Asking questions
about HPLX specific settings or quirks relative to DOS programs (video
modes, ways of launching etc.) makes more sense to me.

If responses to this thread are indicative of the overall consensus of
this list's subscribers then I'm probably in a small minority in
holding these views, therefore I'll let this drop.  I did want to
clarify my views however, and suggest that sarcasm ("the last time I
switched on my HP 200 LX...") is not necessarily the most productive
tool at our (collective) disposal.

And, no I don't care if I have the last word, so feel free to reply.

thanks,

/breck

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Hi! Everybody!!!

How can I set this list in DIGEST mode?

Thanks in advance.


Pablo KIM
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You should probably keep in mind the lists like this are self moderating, to a certain
degree.

If there is no interest in a post question or issue, then there will be no responses.

--- On Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:32:08 -0400  Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET> wrote:

>>As I wade through the date stamp and file find threads I wonder if
>>this list is the best forum for questions and discussions about DOS.
>>It seems that less and less of the traffic on this list is HP LX
>>specific.  I guess I may get flamed for making this suggestion though
>>it's not meant to antagonize anyone.  Anticipating a common
>>counter-thread, I know how to filter mail; that's not the point.
>>Lists which become unfocussed eventually serve no one's interest.
>>
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> And, no I don't care if I have the last word, so feel free to reply.

Hi Breck,

As a person who knows him personally, I assure you Jorgen did
not mean to be sarcastic to you or he just tried to be sarcastic
to himeself, so please don't take it seriously.  Jorgen was the
guy who wrote the amusing, funny story about toasters ...

Also, I got reminded on reading your post and have tried to
be short on the thread about Calvin that interests only few
people (I guess 3 or 4) in the list.  My thanks to you too.

regards
Rudi

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Longden C. Loo wrote:
>I also had several one line batch files (ie, a.bat to just
>do "a:") that would be better handled using DOSKEY (like
>"alias" in Unix).

Another space-saving approach to this is combining the small
batch files into one larger one.

bob

Example follows:

@echo off
rem B.BAT -  consolidate small batch files to save room
rem bob russell  rev 09/08/97

rem Test for lack of params
set LBL=3D[%1]
if %LBL%=3D=3D[] goto needparam
set %LBL%=3D

rem Run routine, warning first because we can't afterward
echo If first command line parameter is not a valid label in B.BAT,
echo you will get a 'Label not found' error.
goto %1
Rem DOS halts the bat file on 'label not found'

:needparam
echo Command line parameters required
echo .   form:  b  x [y] [z] etc.
echo Where 'x' is the routine to run, and
echo .      y z etc. are any parameters required by x.
goto end


REM 'batch' routines follow
:dc
rem goto c:\_dat
c:
cd \_dat
goto end

< snip >

:pe
f:\pe\pe %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
goto end

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>I have used Stacker 3 for several years on a 100 and 2 200's with no
>problems.  It virtually doubles the space on my 10MB and 20 MB flash
>cards.

How much memory takes Stacker loaded ?

Regards. Nacho.

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>        If the drive is compressed, use the utilities that came with the
>        compression software (e.g. use JMAX for Jam'd drives).

Can anyone post a comparison between Stacker and JAM ?

I use JAM actually and seems to me a pretty good piece of software.

Regards. Nacho.

P.S: I also like the "do it yourself" approach. You modify the config.sys
yourself and control each parameter.

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Ignacio Garca Prez wrote:
>
> >I have used Stacker 3 for several years on a 100 and 2 200's with no
> >problems.  It virtually doubles the space on my 10MB and 20 MB flash
> >cards.
>
> How much memory takes Stacker loaded ?
>
> Regards. Nacho.

41.2k

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Comments: cc: david.eggins@USA.NET

   >If you have the same bug as me, you should see the cursor has gone
   >below the notes field.  Each time you press the down arrow, the
   >lines entering the screen are displayed twice!!
   >Hiting the up arrow until the duplicated lines dissapear will
   >restore the screen, and data to normal.  It is only a display
   >problem, your data is not affected.

I have also noticed this problem at times with the inbuilt Memo
program. It always disappears when you scroll back up and the data
never seems to be affected.

Steven English

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Is anyone running QNX on their HP200lx?

Julie

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I have a copy of the old Norton's Commander which I use on my palmtop for
a lot of things.  Among other things, that dos jewel will also find files
for you and take you to the file if desired, etc.  Just press Alt F7 and
type what you are looking for including wildcards, etc.

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->BTW, I had a rough time buying an LX once I finally decided against the
->WINCE machines.  I called HP several times.
->Everywhere I called, the salespeople tried to discourage me--
->even the places that carried the LX were not supportive.
->"That's an older model; you don't want that," etc.

I had the identical experience.  I knew I wanted a 200LX to replace my old
one, but could not find it on sale anywhere in the real world and bought
it on the internet from one the LX mail suppliers.  That is a lot more
effort than a normal person is likely to do assuming that person "knew"
that it still existed.  That is why shelf space is so important.  The
200LX presently has no, -- none, nada -- shelf space in any store I have
visited and is not stocked by any of them.  I wish it were - I could buy
it a discount! ("One dumb man's garbage is another's treasure").


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Educalc (and someone else, I can't recall) have offers to buy "old"
palmtops.
I wonder where those units go, and what happens to them...

Phil

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On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:
> Educalc (and someone else, I can't recall) have offers to buy "old"
> palmtops.
> I wonder where those units go, and what happens to them...

I got a fantastic offer from Thaddeus!  $75 for my HP100LX plus manuals
plus connectivity kit, but only if they're all in excellent condition!

Who are they kidding?  I could sell it within a week or two for $200
elsewhere.

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HP>Is anyone running QNX on their HP200lx?

HP>Julie

   Dear Julie.....What is QNX ?

   Regards,

   martin
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QNX is a realtime operating system.

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                On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Jeff Malka wrote:
>
> I had the identical experience.  I knew I wanted a 200LX to replace my old
> one, but could not find it on sale anywhere in the real world and bought
> it on the internet from one the LX mail suppliers.  That is a lot more
> effort than a normal person is likely to do assuming that person "knew"
> that it still existed.  That is why shelf space is so important.  The
> 200LX presently has no, -- none, nada -- shelf space in any store I have
> visited and is not stocked by any of them.  I wish it were - I could buy
> it a discount! ("One dumb man's garbage is another's treasure").
>
Service Merchandise has the HP200LX 2mb in  stock and on sale frequently.

Dave Sprinkle - dsprinkl@indiana.edu
Indiana University Physics Dept.
Swain West Rm. 117
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> Service Merchandise has the HP200LX 2mb in  stock and on sale frequently.
>
> Dave Sprinkle - dsprinkl@indiana.edu

Fry's have the hp200lx 4mb in stock. (Portland, OR)

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Does anyone know of a checkers game that will run on the 200LX? I really
enjoy playing chess on my palmtop but everynow and then it might be kinda
fun to play a simple game of checkers :)


73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net

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In a message dated 97-09-09 11:00:18 EDT, :

<< You should probably keep in mind the lists like this are self moderating,
to a certain degree.   If there is no interest in a post question or issue,
then there will be no responses.
  >>
i agree. the only threads which i have found annoying are the ones that
start, "is this really the best place to discuss ..."

(so how did i get sucked into this one??   oh well.)

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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> QNX is a realtime operating system.

Could anyone elaborate on that?

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

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I've heard that RAM cards after a certain amount of usage can "wear out" or at
least certain sectors become unusable. I'm curious if the internal RAM of the
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any comments on this subject?

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No, only flash ram is subject to wear, and modern algorithms
make it unlikely with an HP card.
The internal ream on the HP is Sram.
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> least certain sectors become unusable. I'm curious if the internal RAM of the
> LX series of palmtops suffers from the same type of "wear"? Does anyone have
> any comments on this subject?

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   Hello

   I was surprised to see that Doskey has macro capeabilities.
   Thanks for that tip, I have put all my small batch files in
   there no, saving space.

   I have some more info, after some searching:

   In doskey,  _T   will separate commands, so wou can have more
   than one command associated with a macro. Ie:

   doskey gf=dir c:\_1 /s _b more _t Pause Search C drive. _t dir
   a:\_1 /s _b more

   (this is all one line).  The pause is to allow you time to

   read the outbut from the last screen of the c: before the
   first screen from the a: starts.

   I also added a help command to find out what macros I have
   available:

   doskey help=doskey /macros


   Hope this helps.


   David Eggins
   Canberra Australia


   PS.  I think any good DOS tips are worthwhile. Keep em
   comming.

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>
>  and compressed air! Get one of thoses cans of  "dust off" and use that
> to dry the keyboard out (blows all the gritty bits out from between the
> layers)
>

seems to me that would blow the dust etc. further IN between the layers,
not OUT.

Bob

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From:         "Michael R. Melancon" <melancon@PRYSM.NET>
Subject:      Re: QNX

I downloaded the 1.44 floppy demo - Gee Whiz factor is pretty impressive -
(on my desktop computer) it loads the OS and pops up a GUI (similar in look
to Win 95) and allows you to enter your dialup info and log in to your ISP
to browse the WWW.  Whole thing fits on one 3 1/2" floppy -  and unpacks
into high memory when you run it.  This demo won't run on 200LX - I don't
know enough to say if QNX would be a practical on the palmtop.

If you are curious take a look

Here's the address for the demo

http://www.qnx.com/iat/index.html

Here's the address for their home page

http://www.qnx.com/

Mike
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> QNX is a realtime operating system.

Could anyone elaborate on that?

Ian Butler
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Agreed.  Ahem, when *we* write to magazines...etc.  Let's try to be
specific --
for example tell things that we can do with our HP that we couldn't do with
the WINCE.  In my case, a partial listing includes:

     Program and compile code in a 5th generation language (Prolog)
     Practice musical ear training.
     Study Japanese.
     Have fun searching through an extensive treasurechest of shareware on
the Internet.

    (In a windows a magazine the comment was made.  "Yes, you can
     find some shareware for the WINCE machines if you search hard enough.
     I had to smile at that.)

    Write and test batch programs that I can use at home at work to
     make myself more productive.
     Instantly jump into applications by pressing keys dedicated to
applications.
     Pop up an inspirational/or educational message.
     Turn the LX sideways and read it like a book.
     Change batteries every few weeks.
     Print labels on a eiko INstruments Smart Label Printer Plus.
     Use and develop FoxPro applications.
     Use (and further develop) my own hypertext editor:  SHE (Seyer
Hypertext Editor)
     Control a musical instrument through MIDI (haven't tried this one yet,
but I think it might be possible
          using a special serial interface and software originally
developed for laptops.)


Anyone else use the LX200 in ways that that they could not use a WINCE?

What can't we do with a 200LX that can be done with an WINCE?  Can we sync.
with
Windows applications like Ms Schedule+?

At 05:13 AM 9/9/97 -0400, you wrote:
>When you write to magazines, try not to be confrontational about the
issue.  Instead, try
>to be informative.  This way, the letter will more apt to be published.
>
>--- On Mon, 8 Sep 1997 22:19:08 -0700  Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM> wrote:
>
>>NetGuide Magazine had an article on palmtops.  Again the 200LX was
>>not mentioned.  When this happens we need to write to such
>>magazines and explain the advantages of the 200 LX.
>>
>>DOS is spoken of as "archaic" elsewhere in this magazine.
>>We need to educate people that for some purposes, well-written DOS
>>programs much more appropriate than Windows or
>>WINCEs appliations.  We need to explain how and why.
>>
>-----------------End of Original Message-----------------
>
>______________________________________________
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>  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
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I wonder if WINCE people have something like stacker.

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It seems you are definitely in the minority.
>If responses to this thread are indicative of the overall consensus of
>this list's subscribers then I'm probably in a small minority in
>holding these views, therefore I'll let this drop.
I hope so.

As others have said, we want to get most out of DOS.  In
other lists there is little motivation to discuss DOS -- it's
regarded as archaic.

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Nice to know that stacker works so well.  Be sure to backup your stuff.
Stacker ran fine for me on my DOS machine for five years.... and
then the hard disk started having problems and it was difficult
to recover with stacker in there.  (I never did recover the disk --
I had some things backed up.)

>I have used Stacker 3 for several years on a 100 and 2 200's with no
>problems.  It virtually doubles the space on my 10MB and 20 MB flash
>cards.
>
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>      Control a musical instrument through MIDI (haven't tried this one yet,

Yes, it works. I reccommend "gsplay" of the approx. 5 I tried. [SimTel]
NB it does stumble a little on very complex pieces (around 12 parts moving
fast). Works fine on a faster computer.
cakewalk also works, but it's a pain.

I'm using a Kawai GMouse - $200 Australian (about $US150) - needs 6 AA
batteries. Has reverb and good orchestral sounds.
But Yamaha MU-5 also works, and is probably more available.

You need another null-modem to compensate for the one built-in the palmtop's
cable. Or make your own. [This was a discouraging headache to figure out!]

===
FWIW I think the next quantum improvement in palmtops tech will not be faster,
smaller, lighter, or more memory. Not even video, sound or wireless.

But simply a much higher contrast display -- compare your hp with a newspaper!
Such LCD colour displays are available as a spin-off from laptop tech; but
are too expensive. Now.

Brendan

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> Is anyone running QNX on their HP200lx?
>
> Julie
>
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Are you joking?
This is an OS like unix but  a real time system

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Are you using a special MIDI interface, like KeyTronics?

At 02:27 PM 9/10/97 +1000, you wrote:
>>      Control a musical instrument through MIDI (haven't tried this one yet,
>
>Yes, it works. I reccommend "gsplay" of the approx. 5 I tried. [SimTel]
>NB it does stumble a little on very complex pieces (around 12 parts moving
>fast). Works fine on a faster computer.
>cakewalk also works, but it's a pain.
...

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     Hi!
     As a ex HP320LX user the answer is yes. But it is done by the Op Sys.
     You have no control over it. There is also no DIR command so you do
     not know how much you got on the flash card until it is full. I got
     about 34Mb on a 20 Mb card.

     Helmut in Colorado


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I wonder if WINCE people have something like stacker.

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On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:

> Educalc (and someone else, I can't recall) have offers to buy "old"
> palmtops.
> I wonder where those units go, and what happens to them...

This is like the mystery of where elephants go to die.

Maybe someone could write a Sci-Fi/horror story like "Soylent Green" (I'm
really dating myself on that one) where old HP 95/100/200 LX's are carted
off to some sinister recycling factory and emerge as......

WinCe palmtops <long scream....fadeout>

- Longden

PS - Maybe we should ship a couple of them to Mir.

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On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, David Eggins wrote:
>    I was surprised to see that Doskey has macro capeabilities.
>    Thanks for that tip, I have put all my small batch files in
>    there no, saving space.
>
>    I have some more info, after some searching:
>
>    In doskey,  _T   will separate commands, so wou can have more
>    than one command associated with a macro. Ie:

Thanks for that tip David....now I really know I've got to crack open that
DOS manual.

- Longden

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Longden C. Loo wrote:

> PS - Maybe we should ship a couple of them to Mir.

Yeah.  They're probably using WinCE units up there right now.  That's why things are in
such a mess.

--
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> Are you using a special MIDI interface, like KeyTronics?
No. It has a serial interface built-in - all you need is the cable. An extra
MIDI interface would have discouraged me, as too cumbersome(sp?).

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On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Jeffrey Veiss (CTG) wrote:

> Here's a summary of the responses I've received concerning a defrag program
> for the HPLX Palmtop:
<snip>
>
> Software available:
>
>         Norton Disk Doctor's Speed Disk for DOS (not sure what version).
>
>         OPTIMIZE.EXE which ships with the palmtop version of Software Carousel.
>
>         If the drive is compressed, use the utilities that came with the
>         compression software (e.g. use JMAX for Jam'd drives).

Once upon a time, I used a freeware/shareware(forget which) defragger
called DOG (Disk OrGanizer) which was fairly good. It lacked the graphical
frills of Norton and Optimize, but it did the work and actually gave you a
fair amount of control.

You can probably find it in Simtel or Garbo....its been 5 years since I've
used it, so I can't remember the name of the author, just remembered that
his spelling was atrocious (to which even he admitted in his doc...at
least he had a sense of humor).

And if you want something more contemporary, you can just get DEFRAG from
your desktop copy of DOS 6.x.  DEFRAG is just a warmed over older version
of Norton's SpeedDisk. I haven't tried it on the LX, but I would think
that it'd work.

- Longden

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at least something would work on that orbitting junkyard :)

jay

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>
> On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:
>
> > Educalc (and someone else, I can't recall) have offers to buy "old"
> > palmtops.
> > I wonder where those units go, and what happens to them...
>
> This is like the mystery of where elephants go to die.
>
> Maybe someone could write a Sci-Fi/horror story like "Soylent Green"
> (I'm
> really dating myself on that one) where old HP 95/100/200 LX's are
> carted
> off to some sinister recycling factory and emerge as......
>
> WinCe palmtops <long scream....fadeout>
>
> - Longden
>
> PS - Maybe we should ship a couple of them to Mir.
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>As I wade through the date stamp and file find threads I wonder if
>this list is the best forum for questions and discussions about DOS.
>It seems that less and less of the traffic on this list is HP LX
>specific.                      [snip]
>Lists which become unfocussed eventually serve no one's interest.

This post really made me think. It is very reasonable, but for some reason
doesn't strike me as quite right. However, after a few days of pondering,
I think I have put my finger on it. And yes, I do think it has a very valid
point, which is discussed at the end of this post. But first:


==="unfocssed list"
Not every porche-owner installs a sound-system; so sound-systems aren't
the focus of a porche mail-list. But what if every one of them did install
one? Wouldn't it seem silly to exclude discussion of sound-systems through a
black-letter construction of the mail-list's charter? Would not this also
exclude rally driving, sun-roofs and crash repairs <g> on the basis they
aren't 100% specific to porches? What would they have left to talk about? <g>

To obey the proposed prohibition against non-specific DOS threads,
we couldn't talk about most software to download, either. Because it's
DOS; and better discussed in a DOS forum. We would be limited to software
written specifically (and only) for the hplx. We couldn't even talk about
Quicken, or Lotus 123!

But the real difference between a porche's sound systems and a hplx's DOS
is that DOS is not an optional extra for hplx[*] users: If you want a hplx,
you get DOS. It's more like saying that porche-owners should not discuss
what's under the hood, because, apart from minor differences, it's just an
engine.


==="wading through DOS threads"
However, the DOS threads have brought out an awful lot of responses -
hence, there is a lot to wade through. But is the popularity of a thread a
reason to ban it? <g> Of course, if there *was* a more appropriate
alternative, the intense DOS posts should go there. And an in-depth discussion
of some DOS issues could benefit from the gurus in various newsgroups:

        alt.msdos.programmer           For the serious MS/DOS programme
        comp.os.msdos.misc
        comp.binaries.ibm.pc           Binary-only postings for IBM PC/
        alt.ms.programmer              For the serious MS/DOS programme
        microsoft.public.basic.dos
        alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.dos  ?
        alt.msdos.batch                MS-DOS batch files

But *there is no XT PC CGA newgroup*. Hence, this list is just about it!

Unless someone knows of such a newsgroup? There is a bit of a resurgence in
"classic" computers and games; perhaps we could hive off such a mailing
list? But I think most people are happy as things are, at least for the
moment. <g>

Brendan
[*] it's not an option for wince users, either <g>

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> > PS - Maybe we should ship a couple of them to Mir.

In a news report, they mentioned a lap-top computer being in the abandoned
section. A lap-top!? A hp200lx would be lighter, and more energy efficient:
a $20 solar cell recharges it in 5 hours of strong sunlight.

This is sounding disturbingly plausible to me...

Of course, even harder to operate that keyboard with space-suit gloves on.

Brendan

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To the tiny minority of calvin users out of the huge majority of DOS users
on this list:


        I had a dream ... of a totally independent programming workstation.
A hp200lx with a solar cell is that: you can program indefinitely in the
woods ... or on the moon. But to many people, this is a wildly weird idea -

        "But how can you type on it? How can you *read* it?"

        "I have dextrous fingers and exceptional eyesight... er, had."

This post is for you! That tiny minority of hp200lx on-the-unit-programmers...
in C, who also use calvin! Please email if you'd like to get cc: on posts on
this most archane of esoteric pursuits...

        bren@cs.monash.edu.au


And here's the promised tips:
============================

===     get "threads" [SimTel yet again]. It's a 70K C reference manual.
So you can check ">>=", "precedence", and the "printf" escape characters
that you don't use often.
        Then, in calvin, just type
                :!threads
and you have on-line help! I use a batch file cc.bat
NB you need to set calvin's "thouroughshell" for batch files to be executed.

===     get the 267K CFAQ from [comp.lang.c] - it's big. It's excellent. It
can be viewed with a batch file "c.bat":
        cavlin +/%1 cfaq
                so that it looks up the word you want, too!

===     A simple batch file help.bat:
                calvin help.doc
        This allows you to ref all your little tips and reminders. Just
type "help" when you need it, and it's be there <g>.


===[POSSIBLY FORTHCOMING:]
        In "snippets" [SimTel] there is a little mathematical expression
parser called "eval". In it's initial form, it takes the string from the
command line. So you say:
        eval 20*20-1

        If I change it to take input from stdin. And *then* you can be in
calvin, type an expression (or paste it from the result file you are
examining), and type:

                !$ eval

        And your expression will be magically replaced with the answer!
But I'm not sure of the redistribution qualifications on snippets, to when
I get a round tuit...

Please, email me with *your* hard-won tips, dear fellow on-the-unit-programmer,
in-C, using-calvin! Or have I *completely* marginalised myself here? <G>

Brendan
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Hi

I just got a new EXP modem with 4MB or ram. How do I stack the ram portion
of the drive.  Does anyone know where to buy the stacker software?





Thank You



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>
>
> > > For those, who are using Calvin, or other things that switch
> > > the cursor to a line, such as the Calvin editor, so that you
> > > don't find the cursor, just drop me a mail for a tiny TSR
> > > called "bcursor" coded in assembler.
> >
> > small again. Does "bcursor" maintain the large size *within*
> > Calvin? My main problem was that I couldn't find the cursor
> > after a "/"
>
> Yes, within Calvin too. The TSR is monitoring any call to the
> interrupt (forgotten which one I've used). Therefore, if any
> program tries to change cursor size by interrupting, he's got
> no chance.  I also had this very annoying problem; even now
> with a block-cursor. But I'll just issue a '|' or '0' command
> to move the cursor to the first column in order to locate it.
>
> > BTW "snippets" has got a lot of great stuff in it. I'll post the
> > URL if I can find it; but pretty sure I got it on SimTel.
>
> I could not find the URL either. There are very useful codes.
> Rudi
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The computer did it. Or I hit the wrong key. Sorry.

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Michael R. Melancon wrote:

SNIP

 This demo won't run on 200LX - I don't
> know enough to say if QNX would be a practical on the palmtop.
>
> If you are curious take a look
>
> Here's the address for the demo
>
> http://www.qnx.com/iat/index.html
>
> Here's the address for their home page
>

Do you know why the demo won't work on the 200LX?

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<<One of the file finders I found had a *lot* of extra options!
It's called, FF.COM (like the old Norton utility)..>>

Now that sounds pretty powerful!  Please do post where it might be obtained!
Thanks

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At 10:56 PM 9/9/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I downloaded the 1.44 floppy demo - Gee Whiz factor is pretty impressive -
>(on my desktop computer) it loads the OS and pops up a GUI (similar in look
>to Win 95) and allows you to enter your dialup info and log in to your ISP
>to browse the WWW.  Whole thing fits on one 3 1/2" floppy -  and unpacks
>into high memory when you run it.  This demo won't run on 200LX - I don't
>know enough to say if QNX would be a practical on the palmtop.
>

This is for the current version 4.0  I have a friend that is pretty sure
that an older version could run on an 80186.

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SNIP
>
> This is for the current version 4.0  I have a friend that is pretty sure
> that an older version could run on an 80186.
>
> Julie

Do you know if there are any demo versions of the one that would run on
the 80186?

                        Brenda

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On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Zyg. Poliniak wrote:

> QNX is a realtime operating system.
QNX is very fast and efficient, but I'm pretty sure you need a 386 or
better (or their proprietary embedded RISC board) to run it.  It's been a
while since I've talked to them, so I can be wrong.  It's been known to
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On Wed, 10 Sep 1997 04:12:06 -0400
        "Thomas H. Fitzgerald" <tom5e@PIPELINE.COM>
>
> Hi
>
> I just got a new EXP modem with 4MB or ram. How do I stack the
> ram portion
> of the drive.  Does anyone know where to buy the stacker
> software?


Check out the STAC website:

http://www.stac.com

they should have purchasing info there.

For info on how to compress a flashcard/palmtop, search the HPLX mail
list archives at:

http://www.palmtop.net

for "stacker"

or check EXP's website

If you need more info, contact me via private EMail.

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Mgr: Microchemistry Lab, Univ of CT, U-193
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At 21:35 9/09/97 -0500, you wrote:
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
>I've heard that RAM cards after a certain amount of usage can "wear out"
or at
>least certain sectors become unusable. I'm curious if the internal RAM of the
>LX series of palmtops suffers from the same type of "wear"? Does anyone have
>any comments on this subject?

You've probably heard that about FLASH RAM. It's not the same. The storage
media in those cards is flash eprom, which, as you said, suffers from wear
on every erase-write cycle, though the minimum number of write cycles is
guarantedd to be very high.

ATA flash cards, differ in that the memory is not offered to the system as
such (a linear memory space), but though an ATA controller, which makes it
more like a disk. The ATA controller optimizes flash access in several
ways, for example:

1- Distributes erase-write cycles, so, the "wear" is distributed all along
the memory. If the same group of cells where used more frequently, they
would die sooner (think that, for example, when you write to a disk, the
first unused space is used, resulting in a more frequent use of the first
sectors of the disk).

2- Manages bad memory blocks. When a block of cells gets tired and is no
more useable, it's mapped out, so the rest of the memory is still useable.


I still don't know why the call some cards "flash ram", since flash and
sram are different technologies. I have a guess, and would like to know if
anyone has further information on this topic:

Normal flash memories (such as 29C040), do write cycles a byte at a time.
And it takes about 1ms (typical) to program each byte. This means one
second for 1K. Clearly, our flash cards are much faster writing to disk.
Ease cycles are done in blocks, which is much faster (64K at a time).

But disk writes are always in cluster units, so, all bytes can be written
simultaneously, but for that, they must be stored temporaly somewhere while
they are being transfered to the card. Maybe it's done in SRAM and that's
why they call it flash RAMS.

This is just a guess, because I'm sure that there's no way to retain data
in RAM without (at least a little) power, and flash ram cards have no
battery.

Regards. Nacho.

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>> How much memory takes Stacker loaded ?
>>
>> Regards. Nacho.
>
>41.2k

25K for JAM, two compressed volumes. It's quite a big difference. Would be
very interesting to do a performance comparison between JAM and Stacker on
the 200LX.

Regards. Nacho.

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Take a look at "alt.binaries.misc"  for the message "FF"=20
This may help your testing.
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HP>On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:

HP>> Educalc (and someone else, I can't recall) have offers to buy "old"
HP>> palmtops.
HP>> I wonder where those units go, and what happens to them...

HP>This is like the mystery of where elephants go to die.

HP>Maybe someone could write a Sci-Fi/horror story like "Soylent Green" (I'm
HP>really dating myself on that one) where old HP 95/100/200 LX's are carted
HP>off to some sinister recycling factory and emerge as......

HP>WinCe palmtops <long scream....fadeout>

HP>- Longden

HP>PS - Maybe we should ship a couple of them to Mir.

   CLAP,CLAP,CLAP,CLAP :)

   I think that "Norton Commander" should be useful....

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On Wed, 10 Sep 1997 04:12:06 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi
>
>I just got a new EXP modem with 4MB or ram. How do I stack the ram portion
>of the drive.  Does anyone know where to buy the stacker software?

There is an article in the 1995 Palmtop paper PC card review on page
15 which explains how to do this. I'm awaiting delivery of a 4MB Exp
myself so I don't know of it works. If you don't have the relevant
issue I can post the instructions if no-one objects.


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>From what I've been able to determine from their Web site, when QNX
says "generic x86" they mean 80386 and up.  I wouldn't even waste my time
trying it on the LX.

On the other hand, Minix 2.0 will run on the 8088 and up.  In fact
there are two different variants, x86 and x386.  It comes with instructions
for setting it up on an XT, so "in theory" it should work on the LX.  I
say "in theory" because the installation requires a floppy disk drive.
A floppy disk drive, not a DOS file system on a PCMCIA card
masquerading as drive A:.  But I'm thinking of installing it on a notebook and then
transferring the system to a PCMCIA card.  Obviously it's not just a
file copy because it's a totally different file system.  Also it would
need new drivers to handle the PCMCIA "disk".

For the curious, Minix is the "father of Linux", written as a small,
educational, free U**X clone:
  As an aside, a few words about LINUX and its relationship to
  MINIX may be of interest to some readers.  Shortly after
  MINIX was released, a USENET newsgroup was formed to discuss
  it.  Within weeks, it had 40,000 subscribers, most of whom
  wanted to add vast numbers of new features to MINIX to make
  it bigger and better (well, at least bigger).  Every day,
  several hundreds of them offered suggestions, ideas, and
  snippets of code.  The author of MINIX successfully
  resisted this onslaught for several years, in order to keep
  MINIX small enough and clean enough for students to
  understand.  Ever so gradually, it began to become clear
  that he really meant it.  At that point, a Finnish student,
  Linus Torvalds, decided to write a MINIX clone intended to
  be a feature-heavy production system, rather than an
  educational tool.  Thus was LINUX born.
"Operating Systems Design and Implementation", Tanenbaum and Woodhull.

Despite its educational background, it is a fully functional,
multi-tasking system, complete with development tools.

Kiyoshi Akima
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>> How much memory takes Stacker loaded ?
>>
>41.2k

> 25K for JAM, two compressed volumes. It's quite a big difference.=
 Would be
> very interesting to do a performance comparison between JAM and Stacker=
 on
> the 200LX.

Stacker indeed requires more low ram but it can be partially loaded=
 into
EMS if any is available, however the resulting low ram usage would still
exceed Jam's very economical driver. There are advantages for the extra
mem however...

Some time ago I posted to this list some basic comparisons that I had=
 made
between Jam and Stacker (version 4 I believe). Maybe they can be found=
 in
the list archives? From what I recall Jam's overall disk access for
copying files was on par with stacker but not faster. They had basically
similar compression ratios but stacker 4 was slightly better here (1.9=
 for
Jam vs 2.3 for stacker if I remember correctly) with the same mix of=
 files.
Jam's ratio was superior to stacker 3 however.

Another interesting observation I made was during a disk intensive routine=

such as reindexing deleted msgs in post/lx. During this routine stacker
ran at approx. 4~5 times faster than Jam on my machine (no speed-doubling)=

showing clear superiority here. A similar result may occur when doing
searches on a built-in database file but I didn't test that theory...

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The 1994-1995 HP Palmtop Paper Subscribers PowerDisk Gameslx.exe.
It contained three, classic games for the 95LX:

1. Checkers
2. Poker Solitaire
3. MasterMind

The programs will work on the 100/200LX in 40X16 mode.

Hope this helps,

Qman



At 07:24 PM 9/9/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Does anyone know of a checkers game that will run on the 200LX? I really
>enjoy playing chess on my palmtop but everynow and then it might be kinda
>fun to play a simple game of checkers :)
>
>
>73 de KF4KGQ
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On the Super site is now a scrabble game. Has anybody been able to get it
to work? I know it says that you can't run any TSRs so I've tried to use
its batch files to reboot with its autoexec.bat file. I corrected for the
problem missing config.sys with a dummy config.sys file but the program
still hangs up when it tries to load the program.
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Date:         Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:34:26 -0400
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From:         David Satterfield - High End Server Systems
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Subject:      IMAP4

I sent this question out a while ago, but didn't get an answer. Maybe
someone knows now. I am looking for an email program that does the
IMAP4 protocol. I know that POP3 programs exist(nettamer, POST/LX), but
since I get email with attachments that are sometimes quite large, I
need to see the subject and size of email messages before I download
them to the 200LX (otherwise I risk filling the palmtop disk). I
believe that the IMAP4 protocol allows you to download the headers for
your messages, and then selectively download individual email messages.
I would think that alot of palmtop users are in the same boat that I
am, and need to be selective about email downloading. Any ideas?


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Date:         Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:38:18 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Fluff (was Re: Where do they go?)
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     Hi!
     Soylent Green Now I know how old you are.
        Helmut in Colorado

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Author:  Non-HP-lloo (lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    9/9/97 11:38 PM


On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:

> Educalc (and someone else, I can't recall) have offers to buy "old"
> palmtops.
> I wonder where those units go, and what happens to them...

This is like the mystery of where elephants go to die.

Maybe someone could write a Sci-Fi/horror story like "Soylent Green" (I'm
really dating myself on that one) where old HP 95/100/200 LX's are carted
off to some sinister recycling factory and emerge as......

WinCe palmtops <long scream....fadeout>

- Longden

PS - Maybe we should ship a couple of them to Mir.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:17:07 -0400
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Hi group-

I'm hoping someone on the list knows the answer to this...

I've been working with Pygmy Forth v 1.4  - trying to set up graphics
routines (using the HP's int 5Fh graphic functions). Everything works
well so far, but my reference material doesn't mention how to position
or enable the cursor in graphics mode. It could be faked by XORing a
solid black rectangle with the background (and repeating to make it
blink), but there is probably a cursor function built in. Anybody know
what the needed register assignments/values and interrupt number happen
to be?

Thanks in advance...

-PR
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Date:         Wed, 10 Sep 1997 23:07:35 +0200
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > > PS - Maybe we should ship a couple of them to Mir.
>
> In a news report, they mentioned a lap-top computer being in the
> abandoned
> section. A lap-top!? A hp200lx would be lighter, and more energy
> efficient:
> a $20 solar cell recharges it in 5 hours of strong sunlight.
>
> This is sounding disturbingly plausible to me...
>
> Of course, even harder to operate that keyboard with space-suit gloves
> on.
>

Often I wondered how many 200LX buffs are ex-HP41 users?

And remember - HP41CV, later CX, was the back computer on the earlier
Space Shuttle missions.  Used my 41 to gain sponsorship for air rally,
used it for myriad other things...

Regards,

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Date:         Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:25:24 -0800
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>
>Fry's have the hp200lx 4mb in stock. (Portland, OR)

The Fry's in Woodland Hills, CA also has some in stock, but I would be very
careful about buying it from them.  I bought one which was in an open box.
They claimed someone probably just wanted to look at the manual and gave me
$50 off.  They only had the one (4MB), so I had little choice.  It turned
out that the main batteries, registration card and other literature was
missing and the backup battery was installed and dead.  I returned it and
bought one from CDW (mail order).  It came with all kinds of things, and
the unit itself was in an HP-sealed plastic bag.  It was cheaper than Fry's
with the $50 off and it came with a trial version of PUMA's Intellisync (or
something like that) and a serial cable.

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Date:         Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:35:18 -0700
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              tirade)
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>The Fry's in Woodland Hills, CA also has some in stock, but I would be very
>careful about buying it from them.

I've bought many things from Fry's... including my 4MB 200LX... BUT, I
always try and open the package in the parking lot before I leave to make
sure they haven't pulled one of their "open-box specials".  I've been
burned by them more times than I can count due to their lame return/rebox
policy.

Bill



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Date:         Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:07:59 -0400
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Where do they go?

>got a fantastic offer from Thaddeus!  $75 for my HP100LX plus manuals
>plus connectivity kit, but only if they're all in excellent condition!
>Who are they kidding?  I could sell it within a week or two for $200
>elsewhere.

can you really blame them for reaching for the low-hanging fruit? they don't
need to find many suckers to pay for a free add in their own publication.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Date:         Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:33:34 -0700
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Let's get it over with. What are the cheapest prices anyone has found on
NEW LX200s anywhere, Repeatable deals, not "I bought one at the Flea for a
$1."

JR


At 03:35 PM 9/10/97 -0700, you wrote:
>>The Fry's in Woodland Hills, CA also has some in stock, but I would be very
>>careful about buying it from them.
>
>I've bought many things from Fry's... including my 4MB 200LX... BUT, I
>always try and open the package in the parking lot before I leave to make
>sure they haven't pulled one of their "open-box specials".  I've been
>burned by them more times than I can count due to their lame return/rebox
>policy.
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>Bill Childers                                   * 640K ought to be enough
>Computer Consultant                             * for ANYBODY."
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I give up, what is a Thaddeus? Something from the old Testament?

JR

At 07:07 PM 9/10/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>got a fantastic offer from Thaddeus!  $75 for my HP100LX plus manuals
>>plus connectivity kit, but only if they're all in excellent condition!
>>Who are they kidding?  I could sell it within a week or two for $200
>>elsewhere.
>
>can you really blame them for reaching for the low-hanging fruit? they don't
>need to find many suckers to pay for a free add in their own publication.
>
>cordially,
>
>lynn m. cavendish
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Date:         Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:31:30 -0700
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From:         "Jay Carlson (Volt Computer)" <a-jaycar@MICROSOFT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Where do they go?

thaddeus publishes the palmtop paper

> ----------
> From:         John Ramos[SMTP:MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET]
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> Sent:         Wednesday, September 10, 1997 4:35 PM
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>
> I give up, what is a Thaddeus? Something from the old Testament?
>
> JR
>
> At 07:07 PM 9/10/97 -0400, you wrote:
> >>got a fantastic offer from Thaddeus!  $75 for my HP100LX plus
> manuals
> >>plus connectivity kit, but only if they're all in excellent
> condition!
> >>Who are they kidding?  I could sell it within a week or two for $200
> >>elsewhere.
> >
> >can you really blame them for reaching for the low-hanging fruit?
> they don't
> >need to find many suckers to pay for a free add in their own
> publication.
> >
> >cordially,
> >
> >lynn m. cavendish
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Date:         Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:36:53 -0500
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From:         "Michael R. Melancon" <melancon@PRYSM.NET>
Subject:      Re: QNX

I think it takes a minimum 386 and display is vga - so 200LX is out on 2 counts for the demo.

As for QNX I don't have a clue if it could be tailored for a palmtop enbvironment or not -

Mike
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From:   Brenda Clyde
Sent:   Wednesday, September 10, 1997 7:02 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: QNX

Michael R. Melancon wrote:

SNIP

 This demo won't run on 200LX - I don't
> know enough to say if QNX would be a practical on the palmtop.
>
SNIP


Do you know why the demo won't work on the 200LX?


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I'm contemplating purchasing the 4MB TechRAM upgrade from Times2 Tech and
installing it myself. I've received an email from them stating that many of
their customers do the upgrade themselves and if I should screw it up, they
more than likely can fix it. I'm just curious if anybody on the list has
performed the upgrade themselves and if so, how well did the modification go?
I'm an avid amateur radio operator who loves to build kits, so I do have decent
soldering skills. I'd just like some firsthand info before I go tearing into my
trusty 200LX. Thanks in advance for the info.

73 de KF4KGQ
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Does anyone know where I can get battery operated modem for my 200LX. I was
using a newton before with an external modem and it worked very well for
me. I did not have to remove my flash card to use the modem.

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The quintessential IMAP program is UNIX Pine, which has in the past had
ports to DOS, OS/2, etc. Hopefully you could find a copy of PC-Pine and
some suitable packet drivers for use in DOS?

-Peter

On Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:36:52 -0400, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>Date:    Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:34:26 -0400
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>
>I sent this question out a while ago, but didn't get an answer. Maybe
>someone knows now. I am looking for an email program that does the
>IMAP4 protocol.

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EduCALC.  $459 for the 2-meg model or $569 for the 4-meg.  That's where
I bought mine.  A very nice, respectable firm which I would say accounts
for 95% of the 200LXes in this newsgroup.  I did have a recurring hinge
problem with my first 200LX but after I had them replace it I found out =
it was
a lemon (which is pretty rare).
        http://www.educalc.com/products/hp200lx.htm

Wholesale Products.  $549 for the 4-meg model.  I've heard mixed results
from people buying their stuff, so step carefully.
        http://www.wholesaleproducts.com/200lxannouncement.html

Buy EduCALC.  It's worth it.

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

"P.S.  People like you ought to be shot." -- Myself

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NEW LX200s anywhere, Repeatable deals, not "I bought one at the Flea for =
a
$1."

JR


At 03:35 PM 9/10/97 -0700, you wrote:
>>The Fry's in Woodland Hills, CA also has some in stock, but I would be =
very
>>careful about buying it from them.
>
>I've bought many things from Fry's... including my 4MB 200LX... BUT, I
>always try and open the package in the parking lot before I leave to mak=
e
>sure they haven't pulled one of their "open-box specials".  I've been
>burned by them more times than I can count due to their lame return/rebo=
x
>policy.
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>Bill Childers                                   * 640K ought to be enoug=
h
>Computer Consultant                             * for ANYBODY."
>Novell Netware, Windows 95, Windows NT          * - Bill Gates, 1981.
>http://www.garlic.com/~childers                 *
>childers@garlic.com                             *
>Amateur Radio: KE6VVW                           *
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> >Laptop in mir:
> >A lap-top!? A hp200lx would be lighter, and more energy efficient:

> And remember - HP41CV, later CX, was the back computer on the earlier
> Space Shuttle missions.

And the "sojourner" on Mars has a 80186 (mod) in it.

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Kiyoshi Akima wrote:

>   Thus was LINUX born.
>
> Despite its educational background, it is a fully functional,
> multi-tasking system, complete with development tools.
Very interesting! Has anyone got MINIX working on their hplx?

PS
For the curiouser, Knuth (of "The Art of Computer Programming" fame) was
the author of MINIX. One crazy dude.

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I asked the very same question previously and for the exactly same reason.

Pocket modems are now passe (surpassed by PCMCIA modem cards).  But, you still might be
able to find one if you look around.

--- On Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:59:49 +0800  Jose Locsin <chuck@WEBQUEST.COM> wrote:

>Does anyone know where I can get battery operated modem for my 200LX. I was
>using a newton before with an external modem and it worked very well for
>me. I did not have to remove my flash card to use the modem.
>
-----------------End of Original Message-----------------

______________________________________________

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           9/10/97 10:30:11 PM EDT
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Subject:      Re: (Pocket Modems)

i finally found one by browsing the used classifieds on the net, the one
from practical peripherals is well regarded

> ----------
> From:         mdstockr[SMTP:mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM]
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> Sent:         Wednesday, September 10, 1997 7:33 PM
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> Subject:      (Pocket Modems)
>
> I asked the very same question previously and for the exactly same
> reason.
>
> Pocket modems are now passe (surpassed by PCMCIA modem cards).  But,
> you still might be
> able to find one if you look around.
>
> --- On Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:59:49 +0800  Jose Locsin
> <chuck@WEBQUEST.COM> wrote:
>
> >Does anyone know where I can get battery operated modem for my 200LX.
> I was
> >using a newton before with an external modem and it worked very well
> for
> >me. I did not have to remove my flash card to use the modem.
> >
> -----------------End of Original Message-----------------
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Subject:      Re: QNX (and Minix)

> ...
>
> PS
> For the curiouser, Knuth (of "The Art of Computer Programming" fame) was
> the author of MINIX. One crazy dude.
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Minix was written by Andrew Tannenbaum (spelling?) to go along with his
operating systems book. In the book they go into great detail on the
structure of a micro-kernel based OS like Minix. The reason I know is that
I used to use it in our labs, at the time it was a pretty good imitation of
Unix. Now we use Linux, and I personally have used Linux since version 0.10.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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Business Division
Tidewater Community College

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Hi.
Does  anyone have any data on the HP F1027A accessory cradle.
Thanks,
IZT

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There is an interesting web page that shows 1st and 2nd best prices on
various models and accessories.  It quoted $430 for the 2-meg from Computer
Market Place.

I only discovered it about 2 days ago, so I have no knowledge of its'
reliability, etc.
Anyway, it's at  http://www.pdapage.com/hppalm.htm  if anyone wants to take
a look.

Mike
Round Rock, TX
----------
> EduCALC.  $459 for the 2-meg model or $569 for the 4-meg.  That's where
> I bought mine.  A very nice, respectable firm which I would say accounts
> for 95% of the 200LXes in this newsgroup.  I did have a recurring hinge
> problem with my first 200LX but after I had them replace it I found out
it was
> a lemon (which is pretty rare).
>         http://www.educalc.com/products/hp200lx.htm
>
> Wholesale Products.  $549 for the 4-meg model.  I've heard mixed results
> from people buying their stuff, so step carefully.
>         http://www.wholesaleproducts.com/200lxannouncement.html
>
> Buy EduCALC.  It's worth it.
>
> Ian Butler
> ----------
> Let's get it over with. What are the cheapest prices anyone has found on
> NEW LX200s anywhere, Repeatable deals, not "I bought one at the Flea for a
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i purchased my 2 meg from pc zone for $359, altho that was just before
the ce release, so that might have been a fire sale price. might be
worth a call tho

> ----------
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>
> There is an interesting web page that shows 1st and 2nd best prices on
> various models and accessories.  It quoted $430 for the 2-meg from
> Computer
> Market Place.
>
> I only discovered it about 2 days ago, so I have no knowledge of its'
> reliability, etc.
> Anyway, it's at  http://www.pdapage.com/hppalm.htm  if anyone wants to
> take
> a look.
>
> Mike
> Round Rock, TX
> ----------
> > EduCALC.  $459 for the 2-meg model or $569 for the 4-meg.  That's
> where
> > I bought mine.  A very nice, respectable firm which I would say
> accounts
> > for 95% of the 200LXes in this newsgroup.  I did have a recurring
> hinge
> > problem with my first 200LX but after I had them replace it I found
> out
> it was
> > a lemon (which is pretty rare).
> >         http://www.educalc.com/products/hp200lx.htm
> >
> > Wholesale Products.  $549 for the 4-meg model.  I've heard mixed
> results
> > from people buying their stuff, so step carefully.
> >         http://www.wholesaleproducts.com/200lxannouncement.html
> >
> > Buy EduCALC.  It's worth it.
> >
> > Ian Butler
> > ----------
> > Let's get it over with. What are the cheapest prices anyone has
> found on
> > NEW LX200s anywhere, Repeatable deals, not "I bought one at the Flea
> for a
> > $1."
>
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Jeff,
I've taken apart a spare 200LX I have (french model, it's good for spare
parts).  The connector that must be soldered in for the daughterboard is a
surface mount style, relatively tiny.  I repair/modify radios on the side, and
after looking at the job at hand, I decided that when I upgrade my other 1mb
200, I'll have Mack do it for the $25 and get the warranty.

Just my 2 Cents,
Bill

Bill Childers                   |  This was email was
Computer Consultant             |  blasted from a
Novell, Windows 95, NT          |  HP200LX...
childers@garlic.com             |  The Road Warrior's
http://www.garlic.com/~childers |  Weapon!

****************
You Wrote:
--------------------------------------------------------------- - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - -
I'm contemplating purchasing the 4MB TechRAM upgrade from Times2 Tech and
installing it myself. I've received an email from them stating that many of
their customers do the upgrade themselves and if I should screw it up, they
more than likely can fix it. I'm just curious if anybody on the list has
performed the upgrade themselves and if so, how well did the modification go?
I'm an avid amateur radio operator who loves to build kits, so I do have decent
soldering skills. I'd just like some firsthand info before I go tearing into my
trusty 200LX. Thanks in advance for the info.

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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Knuth? Author of MINIX? I had the impression it was Andrew S. Tanenbaum.
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        Perhaps the original poster was confusing MINIX [OS] and MIX
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where exactly are the used classifieds on the net???

At 07:40 PM 9/10/97 -0700, you wrote:
>i finally found one by browsing the used classifieds on the net, the one
>from practical peripherals is well regarded
>
>> ----------
>> From:         mdstockr[SMTP:mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM]
>> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List
>> Sent:         Wednesday, September 10, 1997 7:33 PM
>> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>> Subject:      (Pocket Modems)
>>
>> I asked the very same question previously and for the exactly same
>> reason.
>>
>> Pocket modems are now passe (surpassed by PCMCIA modem cards).  But,
>> you still might be
>> able to find one if you look around.
>>
>> --- On Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:59:49 +0800  Jose Locsin
>> <chuck@WEBQUEST.COM> wrote:
>>
>> >Does anyone know where I can get battery operated modem for my 200LX.
>> I was
>> >using a newton before with an external modem and it worked very well
>> for
>> >me. I did not have to remove my flash card to use the modem.
>> >
>> -----------------End of Original Message-----------------
>>
>> ______________________________________________
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>>   "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
>>            9/10/97 10:30:11 PM EDT
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From:         "Jay Carlson (Volt Computer)" <a-jaycar@MICROSOFT.COM>
Subject:      Re: (Pocket Modems)

i actually got mine from a used newton site. at some point i'll put up a
list of a few of the ones i browse regularly.

> ----------
> From:         Jose Locsin[SMTP:chuck@WEBQUEST.COM]
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>
> where exactly are the used classifieds on the net???
>
> At 07:40 PM 9/10/97 -0700, you wrote:
> >i finally found one by browsing the used classifieds on the net, the
> one
> >from practical peripherals is well regarded
> >
> >> ----------
> >> From:         mdstockr[SMTP:mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM]
> >> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List
> >> Sent:         Wednesday, September 10, 1997 7:33 PM
> >> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> >> Subject:      (Pocket Modems)
> >>
> >> I asked the very same question previously and for the exactly same
> >> reason.
> >>
> >> Pocket modems are now passe (surpassed by PCMCIA modem cards).
> But,
> >> you still might be
> >> able to find one if you look around.
> >>
> >> --- On Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:59:49 +0800  Jose Locsin
> >> <chuck@WEBQUEST.COM> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Does anyone know where I can get battery operated modem for my
> 200LX.
> >> I was
> >> >using a newton before with an external modem and it worked very
> well
> >> for
> >> >me. I did not have to remove my flash card to use the modem.
> >> >
> >> -----------------End of Original Message-----------------
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From:         "Michael R. Melancon" <melancon@PRYSM.NET>
Subject:      Re: (Pocket Modems)

Whatever you are interested in finding in newsgroups - For Sale - or
otherwise, I've found by searching at dejanews.com - try different keywords
for instance "For Sale"  will find some posts and "FS" will find others.
 These are not "classified" ads - but I've found more items this way than
by searching  web pages.  If you want classifieds, there are lots of pages
related to newspapers which have their classifieds.  Odds are you won't be
able to respond to most of these ads online though.

Good luck,

Mike

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From:   Jose Locsin
Sent:   Wednesday, September 10, 1997 11:31 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: (Pocket Modems)

where exactly are the used classifieds on the net???

At 07:40 PM 9/10/97 -0700, you wrote:
>i finally found one by browsing the used classifieds on the net, the one
>from practical peripherals is well regarded
>
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On 10 Sep, Jeff Johns wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I'm contemplating purchasing the 4MB TechRAM upgrade from Times2 Tech and
> installing it myself. I've received an email from them stating that many of
> their customers do the upgrade themselves and if I should screw it up, they
> more than likely can fix it. I'm just curious if anybody on the list has
> performed the upgrade themselves and if so, how well did the modification go?
> I'm an avid amateur radio operator who loves to build kits, so I do have decent
> soldering skills. I'd just like some firsthand info before I go tearing into my
> trusty 200LX. Thanks in advance for the info.

Jeff,
you are experienced with a soldering iron & very careful installing
both kits (speed & memory) is a breeze.  I found Macks instructions
clear & concise and installed both kits myself.  I did not need to do
any soldering for the memory upgrade which makes it a bit more
difficult.

Don't forget to back up your palmtop & wear a static strap!
Good Luck
regards
Murray

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Hello, David...

I just want to add Pete's information. The latest  PC-Pine for DOS so far I know
of is version 3.96. You can find this software from the University Of Washington
at :   ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/ .

The following is the first page of it's introduction (is it legal just to send
part of it here?):

=============================
 Pine 3.96 RELEASE NOTES
                         Specific To PC-PINE
                            February 1997

Copyright 1989-1997 University of Washington.
Pine and Pico are trademarks of the University of Washington.

INTRODUCTION

The general release notes for this version of Pine are available via
the "R" command on the Main Menu.  This file contains information that
is particular to PC-Pine.  We assume that you are generally familiar
with Pine; if not, additional information resources include:

  o The builtin context-sensitive Help screens in Pine.
  o The comp.mail.pine newsgroup.
  o The World-Wide-Web page at http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine
  o The anonymous FTP archives at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine

PC-Pine is available for the following environments:

  o 32-bit Windows: Windows95, NT (pcp_w32.zip)
  o 16-bit Windows: version 3.X (pcp_w16.zip)
  o DOS: FTP Inc's PC-TCP (pcp_pct.zip)
  o DOS: Novell's LAN Workplace for DOS (pcp_lwp.zip)
  o DOS: Sun's PC-NFS (pcp_pcn.zip)
  o DOS: WATTCP/Packet Driver (pcp_wat.zip)

The Winsock versions are not full Windows GUI applications; they have
basically the same user interface as the Unix and DOS versions of Pine
though modest GUI interaction is supported.

......etc...etc.
=================================

If you follow the instructions written in the Pine User Guides, you'll find
anything you need to run the PC-Pine. You can have several ppp packet drivers of
DOS version from http://www.simtel.net/simtel.net/msdos. Two examples are Minuet
and DOSlynx (shareware).

Regards,

d.hendra
dxhendra@usa.net.

> From: Peter W <peterw@CLARK.NET>
>
> The quintessential IMAP program is UNIX Pine, which has in the past had
> ports to DOS, OS/2, etc. Hopefully you could find a copy of PC-Pine and
> some suitable packet drivers for use in DOS?
>
> -Peter
>
> >From:    David Satterfield - High End Server Systems
> <david@DORMO.EAST.SUN.COM>
> >Subject: IMAP4
> >
> >I sent this question out a while ago, but didn't get an answer. Maybe
> >someone knows now. I am looking for an email program that does the
> >IMAP4 protocol.
>
>

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I tried to download the latest addition of the SUPER base (an
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Anyone else noted?

Cheers


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>         Perhaps the original poster was confusing MINIX [OS] and MIX
> [pseudo Assembler Language.] Knuth WAS the author of MIX.
Yes, silly me, that's what confused me.

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On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > >Laptop in mir:
> > >A lap-top!? A hp200lx would be lighter, and more energy efficient:
>
> > And remember - HP41CV, later CX, was the back computer on the earlier
> > Space Shuttle missions.
>
> And the "sojourner" on Mars has a 80186 (mod) in it.

Doubtless with Pocket Quicken loaded to keep down the mission expenses.

- Longden

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Subject:      Re: (Pocket Modems)

What are addresses of classified on the net? Last time I searched I
couldn't bring up on pocket modems except outdated web pages.
---
Dave Hart (hartd@poboxes.com)
Beavercreek (Dayton), OH USA
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - G. Marx

>
>Date:    Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:40:26 -0700
>From:    "Jay Carlson (Volt Computer)" <a-jaycar@MICROSOFT.COM>
>Subject: Re: (Pocket Modems)
>
>i finally found one by browsing the used classifieds on the net, the
>one
>from practical peripherals is well regarded

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For those in the So. Calif / Los Angeles area, I was at a local Vons
market and found their Energizer lithium batteries on sale for $3.18 per
pair. Price tag seemed to indicate there was no limit and that the sale
would run for 12 months...sounds like they're trying to unload their stock
of these.

This is a reasonably good price for this area (usual here is $5-$7 per
pair). While I don't want to get back into discussing the merits and
faults of lithiums vs NiCads vs Alkalines et al.... those who do in fact
use them (as primary or backup cells) may find the pricing worthwhile to
check out.

- Longden

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        From Pete:
        The quintessential IMAP program is UNIX Pine, which has in the past
        had ports to DOS, OS/2, etc. Hopefully you could find a copy of
        PC-Pine and some suitable packet drivers for use in DOS?

        From D.Hendra:
        I just want to add Pete's information. The latest  PC-Pine for DOS so
        far I know of is version 3.96. You can find this software from the
        University Of Washington at :
        ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/ .

Has anyone succesfully done this on the HP200LX? If so, any comments?


David Satterfield
Sun Microsystems, Inc.            Phone:     (508) 442-2669
5 Omni Way, MS UCHL05-105         Fax:       (508) 442-1612
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Does anyone know of a vector-based drawing package that'll run on the LX?
(as opposed to a paint program like "Finger Paint" or "PC Paintbrush",
which saves as .pcx).

Drawing packages are usually limited to lines and simple curves and are
usually more efficient in performance and storage. Would be nice to have
something like this in conjunction with a decent touchpad to take notes in
class where the instructor draws a lot of pictures on the white/black
board.

The ideal software would be more like a SIMPLE word processor with limited
graphics capabilities (or conversely, a vector drawing package with
limited word processing). This is just a marginal use application, so I
don't want to load in a 2+ mb CAD/paint/DTP package (whatever the cost).

OTOH, I could just take a Pilot with me to class <g> (or even my
Zoomer....my first PDA...'cept it's so s-l-o-w).

On a related note, Price Club/CostCo. stores have a touchpad called
VersaPad that I'd like to try with the LX. Anyone try that one yet? Sells
for $40 and has absolute X-Y referencing (like a digitizer) and can be
used with/without a stylus (unlike a digitizer), and can detect
differences in stylus pressure (unlike Alps).

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HP>Does anyone know of a vector-based drawing package that'll run on the LX?
HP>(as opposed to a paint program like "Finger Paint" or "PC Paintbrush",
HP>which saves as .pcx).

  Why don't you try Harvard Graphics ?
  It works fine on the palmtop !

HP>Drawing packages are usually limited to lines and simple curves and are
HP>usually more efficient in performance and storage. Would be nice to have
HP>something like this in conjunction with a decent touchpad to take notes in
HP>class where the instructor draws a lot of pictures on the white/black
HP>board.

HP>The ideal software would be more like a SIMPLE word processor with limited
HP>graphics capabilities (or conversely, a vector drawing package with
HP>limited word processing). This is just a marginal use application, so I
HP>don't want to load in a 2+ mb CAD/paint/DTP package (whatever the cost).

HP>OTOH, I could just take a Pilot with me to class <g> (or even my
HP>Zoomer....my first PDA...'cept it's so s-l-o-w).

HP>On a related note, Price Club/CostCo. stores have a touchpad called
HP>VersaPad that I'd like to try with the LX. Anyone try that one yet? Sells
HP>for $40 and has absolute X-Y referencing (like a digitizer) and can be
HP>used with/without a stylus (unlike a digitizer), and can detect
HP>differences in stylus pressure (unlike Alps).

  There was a program (cad-type), that i've tried once, (from the web),
  but it was very slow !!!, so...i decided for Harvard, it's fast, very
  small (in disk space), graphics are great, and it works fine with
  hundreds of printers, Video Cameras, and all kind of stuff !

HP>- Longden

  regards,

  martin
  marseb@giga.com.ar


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Date:         Thu, 11 Sep 1997 13:23:12 -0400
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From:         "S. Piper" <cryophil@CRYOGEN.COM>
Subject:      25 Games for LX
Comments: To: alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp@myriad.alias.net,
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Hey, you should see this!

There's a zip of the best tested LX games. 25 ARCADE and CLASSIC games that
work on the 100/200LX. Including:

Joust, BuckRogers, Asteroids, STARWARS, Defender, ROBOTRON, Q-BERT
PACman, Ms. pac... Frogger, INVADERs, AtariAdventure, SHAMUS, PINBALL,
PCPOOL, ZAXXON, ...

All are small, none over 50K, most between 10-20K in size, and one even 3K.

Grab all at (450K - zip):

ftp://207.245.67.67/site/graphiti/filez/arcadeLX.zip

May not be there long.

Some don't have keys well defined.  If you figure them out, post to the
list/group so we can all know.
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On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Martin Sebastian wrote:

> HP>Does anyone know of a vector-based drawing package that'll run on the LX?
> HP>(as opposed to a paint program like "Finger Paint" or "PC Paintbrush",
> HP>which saves as .pcx).
>
>   Why don't you try Harvard Graphics ?
>   It works fine on the palmtop !
<snip>
>
>   There was a program (cad-type), that i've tried once, (from the web),
>   but it was very slow !!!, so...i decided for Harvard, it's fast, very
>   small (in disk space), graphics are great, and it works fine with
>   hundreds of printers, Video Cameras, and all kind of stuff !

Thanks. I'll have to dig up a copy and see. What version were you using?
BTW, how small is "very small"?

And how practical is it to use for my note-taking purposes (I mean it IS a
presentation graphics pkg).

- Longden

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I tried a very old version of Autocad (2.something, I think) I seem to
recall that it worked, but I can't recall why I put it aside.  It might
have been before I figured out how to "mouse" on my palmtop.

Phil

>----------
>From:  Longden C. Loo[SMTP:lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM]
>Sent:  Thursday, September 11, 1997 10:24 AM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Vector based drawing?
>
>Does anyone know of a vector-based drawing package that'll run on the LX?
>(as opposed to a paint program like "Finger Paint" or "PC Paintbrush",
>which saves as .pcx).
>
>Drawing packages are usually limited to lines and simple curves and are
>usually more efficient in performance and storage. Would be nice to have
>something like this in conjunction with a decent touchpad to take notes in
>class where the instructor draws a lot of pictures on the white/black
>board.
>
>The ideal software would be more like a SIMPLE word processor with limited
>graphics capabilities (or conversely, a vector drawing package with
>limited word processing). This is just a marginal use application, so I
>don't want to load in a 2+ mb CAD/paint/DTP package (whatever the cost).
>
>OTOH, I could just take a Pilot with me to class <g> (or even my
>Zoomer....my first PDA...'cept it's so s-l-o-w).
>
>On a related note, Price Club/CostCo. stores have a touchpad called
>VersaPad that I'd like to try with the LX. Anyone try that one yet? Sells
>for $40 and has absolute X-Y referencing (like a digitizer) and can be
>used with/without a stylus (unlike a digitizer), and can detect
>differences in stylus pressure (unlike Alps).
>
>- Longden
>

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I don't remember how. can anyone help me?

regards


Poul & Kista
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send the following to: LISTSERV@UConnVM.UConn.Edu

SIGNOFF HPLX-L

no subject is required, if you do it correctly the server will tell you
it worked.
I don't know your reason for leaving, but good luck. :)

Phil

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>
>regards
>
>
>Poul & Kista
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Subject:      Re: Do it yourself mem upgrade

Heard much about RAM upgrading of the HP200. Is it possible to upgrade an old
HP100LX (1MB) from 1993?

73 de Andreas, DC3AFA (from Heidelberg)

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Shier Systems & Software will carry and sell a complete modified Newton
Keyboard for $129, plus applicable sales taxes and shipping.

To help us with purchasing and production, I'd like to accumulate request=
s
and send them out in batches. We can ship the first batch within 3 weeks =
of
this e-mail. Shipping will be first come, first served.

Completed product includes the modified Newton keyboard and its standard
carrying case [which can hold the 200LX in a very tight fit], a 3.5 inch
diskette with software driver necessary to run, and our special printed
instructions. The cable on the keyboard will be Shier's 9 pin connector t=
o
the 200LX's serial port. The cable will be approximately nine inches,
unless a longer length is specified.

Please respond by private e-mail to my address to place an order. I'll
forward those on to the office who'll contact you by e-mail for payment a=
t
the appropriate time.

     Thank you,

     Carl Merkle
     Director of Corporate Projects
     Shier Systems & Software, Inc.

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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Do it yourself mem upgrade
Comments: cc: mack@times2tech.com

i ordered the kit, opened the hp200lx, stared at the surface solder job for
about 2 hours, and wimped out.

i put everything back together & sent it to mack for assemble.

i hated to lose it for any time at all, but mack is quick.  he did the mod
the day he got it, and had it back in the mail the next day.  total
turnaround time is only dependent on how much you are willing to spend for
postage.

  8^)

highly recommend that you let mack do it!

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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From: Leo Theron <leot@ISDIAL.COM>
Subject:      Re:Fluff (was: Where do they go?)
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Status:

> Often I wondered how many 200LX buffs are ex-HP41 users?
>
> And remember - HP41CV, later CX, was the back computer on the earlier
> Space Shuttle missions.  Used my 41 to gain sponsorship for air rally,
> used it for myriad other things...

  Count one more Leo! Bought my HP 41CX in 1987 and swore by it. Hence=
 my
reason for buying HP again. BTW, the 41 is still around..just stuck=
 in my
school bag though. Can't walk into an exam room with the 200LX!

Best regards,






Jagdesh Maraj <joshuam@carib-link.net>

Trinidad, West Indies.

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Subject:      Re: HP#00LX list or DOS list?

In a message dated 97-09-10 02:27:34 EDT:

<< But the real difference between a porche's sound systems and a hplx's DOS
 is that DOS is not an optional extra for hplx[*] users: If you want a hplx,
 you get DOS >>

the real point is, if you want dos, you buy an hplx.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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I'd like to order one of these sets, Carl.  You can reach me here or
over on CIS: 71231,3244.

Thanks,

Tim Ingham

Carl Merkle wrote:

> Shier Systems & Software will carry and sell a complete modified
> Newton
> Keyboard for $129, plus applicable sales taxes and shipping.
>
> To help us with purchasing and production, I'd like to accumulate
> requests
> and send them out in batches. We can ship the first batch within 3
> weeks of
> this e-mail. Shipping will be first come, first served.
>
> Completed product includes the modified Newton keyboard and its
> standard
> carrying case [which can hold the 200LX in a very tight fit], a 3.5
> inch
> diskette with software driver necessary to run, and our special
> printed
> instructions. The cable on the keyboard will be Shier's 9 pin
> connector to
> the 200LX's serial port. The cable will be approximately nine inches,
> unless a longer length is specified.
>
> Please respond by private e-mail to my address to place an order. I'll
>
> forward those on to the office who'll contact you by e-mail for
> payment at
> the appropriate time.
>
>      Thank you,
>
>      Carl Merkle
>      Director of Corporate Projects
>      Shier Systems & Software, Inc.
>
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OK man,
rehaps you are not french, and you don't use a french keyboard
but I am and because I'm living in Australia I have a US keyboard.
So if you want to sell the keyboard, don't forget me.

regards

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I've been trying to get Acad to run with no success due to the CGA
driver not working with the 640x200 screen.  I've tried ACAD R10 and
V2.6.  How did you configure the video to work?  I tried using the EGA
driver, which gives me the menus on the left and the command area
clearly, but no graphics area. CGA gives me what looks like half of an
interlaced screen on each side of the display, with the side menu and
command area unreadable. Please reply, this has been driving me nuts!

David

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Al <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>>  wrote:

>OK man, rehaps you are not french, and you don't use a french keyboard
> but I am and because I'm living in Australia I have a US keyboard.
> So if you want to sell the keyboard, don't forget me.

This tip might be of interest to other international users...

I am an Israeli and also have a US keyboard. When I bought my LX I asked if
there was such a thing as Hebrew keyboard and the salesman gave me an
interesting stare (usual level of customer service that all Israelis learn
to know and love). Anyhow I now have a Hebrew/English LX keyboard thanks to
white rub-on letters which I rubbed onto the keyboard. I used white letters
which are about 3mm high and there is room to the right of each key where
you can place the letters. I did this when a first got my LX and the
letters are still there as good as new because you never manage to press
between the keys..

------------------------
David Becher
(davidb@netmedia.net.il)
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Just out of curiousity, how many of us are in Austrailia?
        Brendan, Melbourne

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The S.U.P.E.R. site likes DraftChoice, it's a 450K zip

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Dear Sir:
Couldn't see your actual email address, because my mailer only says HPLX
Mailing List, but:
Would you be interested in trading... My French LX for your US one?  Please
mail me at childers@garlic.com if you're interested.

Sorry to clutter the list with this, but cc:mail doesn't have all the features
of other mailers.

Thanks,
Bill


Bill Childers                   |  This was email was
Computer Consultant             |  blasted from a
Novell, Windows 95, NT          |  HP200LX...
childers@garlic.com             |  The Road Warrior's
http://www.garlic.com/~childers |  Weapon!

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OK man,
rehaps you are not french, and you don't use a french keyboard
but I am and because I'm living in Australia I have a US keyboard.
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regards

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Hello to the Mailing List and Brendan in particular,

On Friday, 12 September 1997, Brendan wrote:

< Just out of curiosity, how many of us are in Australia?

You probably didn't get a message that I sent to you personally a
number of weeks ago, Brendan, so maybe I can crave the indulgence of
the friendly folk on the HPLX Mailing List to briefly give you all
some information.  This may go a little further than your question,
since presumably you mean how many in the HP Mailing List are in
Australia.

For a start, there are 19 of us in the relatively new Palmusoz Users'
Group (not an official name, but the group's address is
<palmusoz@forensic.sa.gov.au> ).  Of  these, 18 of us are in Australia
and one in New Zealand.  I and at least six others are on the HP
Mailing List, but as yet details of members' activities are not
complete, so there may be others on it as well.  I am the contact
person and with the help of a colleague (Mike, our Unix guru)  here at
the Forensic Science Centre in Adelaide, I organise the list.  In a
couple of hours I am off on holiday and will not be able to reply to
any other membership queries for two weeks, when I hope to put
together a summary of members' interests.

I came into this situation really by default.  Having very little
experience, despite using an HP100LX for several years and feeling
very much alone as the others here now say they did too, I expressed
to Thaddeus an interest in a group.  Some time later I found to my
surprise that I was listed in their Palmtop Paper as the Australian
contact!  One of our earliest members is David Lawrence of New Zealand
who has just told me that he is now listed in the Palmtop Paper as the
New Zealand contact for "Expressions of Interest" in a user-group for
HP Palmtop owners.  There are several known users in NZ.

Regarding Australia, there are other users in Canberra and Melbourne
that I have heard of, and one of our members in Perth promotes
palmtops to trainees in his area of work; and of course there was the
recent e-mail today from our keyboard-hungry Frenchman, Al, living in
Australia.

As to how many HPLX Mailing List members are from Australia and/or New
Zealand, let's hear from you!  I almost wish that I were not going on
holiday, now; there might be a flood of interesting OZ - e-mail.

Finally, I hope that one of our members will not mind my mentioning
that the Palmtop Paper has suggested that he produce an article on
aspects or problems of using the Palmtop "Down Under" (a term which
covers Australasia).  It took me a while reading e-mail upside down,
but when I complained, HP said that I must be putting the modem card
in the wrong way round <G>.

Cheers,

Barry Collins
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> Subject: Icons file
> Hi, you can get the file from
>
> ftp://www.palmtop.net/pub/jpicons.zip
>

Thanks to all replied.  I tried later, and then it worked.

Charles Stroom, Estec/YCV

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From:         "Ignacio Garca Prez" <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
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At 13:34 10/09/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I sent this question out a while ago, but didn't get an answer. Maybe
>someone knows now. I am looking for an email program that does the
>IMAP4 protocol. I know that POP3 programs exist(nettamer, POST/LX), but
>since I get email with attachments that are sometimes quite large, I
>need to see the subject and size of email messages before I download
>them to the 200LX (otherwise I risk filling the palmtop disk). I
>believe that the IMAP4 protocol allows you to download the headers for
>your messages, and then selectively download individual email messages.
>I would think that alot of palmtop users are in the same boat that I
>am, and need to be selective about email downloading. Any ideas?

According to RFC 1939, the POP3 protocol optionally supports the TOP
command, which returns the header of the message, the blank line that
sepparates it from the body, and the number of lines specified from the
body (which can be zero).

If your POP3 server AND client both support that command, there is no
problem in retrieving only the headers of the messages.

On the other hand, the LIST command (NOT optional) returns the size of each
message. For example, Eudora allows you to skip retrieving of messages
larger than N KB. When that happens, only part of the message is retrieved,
so you can see the header and normaly the text (because the attachment uses
to go at the end).

So, the POP3 protocol is enough for your purpose, provided your software
has the functionality.

Regards. Nacho.

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Hi!

Anyone have had success with Panasonic PCMCIA CDROM to work on a HP
Palmtop?

Thanks in advance...

Pablo KIM
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I hope this isn't an intrusion for me to post this, but I
thought my new website might be of interest to other gagdet
freaks out there.

Check out The Gadgeteer at:

http://www.geocities.com/~thegadgeteer


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Subject:      Panasonic PCMCIA CDROM...

HP>Hi!

HP>Anyone have had success with Panasonic PCMCIA CDROM to work on a HP
HP>Palmtop?

   No  with the 200lx, only with a laptop (toshiba), I think that is
because it's too much for the AA batteries.... :(

   In theory, it should be possible, because the drivers are for DOS
too, but for me, it was impossible to make it work.

   I'm trying to make work a Bernoulli drive (230mb), with the hp, i
know it's possible with the pcmcia adaptor, but it's possible using only
a serial-parallel converter cable ? (it's the same for printing)



HP>Thanks in advance...

HP>Pablo KIM
HP>hyunspak@movi.com.ar

   regards,

   martin
   marseb@giga.com.ar


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From:         Martin Sebastian <marseb@GIGA.COM.AR>
Subject:      Re: Vector based drawing?

HP>On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Martin Sebastian wrote:

HP>> HP>Does anyone know of a vector-based drawing package that'll run on the L
HP>> HP>(as opposed to a paint program like "Finger Paint" or "PC Paintbrush",
HP>> HP>which saves as .pcx).
HP>>
HP>>   Why don't you try Harvard Graphics ?
HP>>   It works fine on the palmtop !
HP><snip>
HP>>
HP>>   There was a program (cad-type), that i've tried once, (from the web),
HP>>   but it was very slow !!!, so...i decided for Harvard, it's fast, very
HP>>   small (in disk space), graphics are great, and it works fine with
HP>>   hundreds of printers, Video Cameras, and all kind of stuff !

HP>Thanks. I'll have to dig up a copy and see. What version were you using?
HP>BTW, how small is "very small"?

       well, i'm using version 2.30 for dos, and the program without,
symbols, clips, charts, libraries, helps, it's about 650k
       the full program (with all kind of stuff), it's about 2.3 mb




HP>And how practical is it to use for my note-taking purposes (I mean it IS a
HP>presentation graphics pkg).

HP>- Longden

     martin
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Hi, all

As I live in the town in a tiny flat and spend all the weekends in my
family=B4s country house I don=B4t own a desktop. I use a notebook for
personal and academic purposes. The time has arrived to put aside my
old notebook (my 12 y. old godson is thrilled, I'm going to give it
to him) a Compaq Contura, and so I ordered a Compaq Armada due to
arrive any day now. As the Armada has an IR port I would like to know
if I need some special software to connect my LX to it.

Can anybody help me?

Antonio


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Subject:      Re: New website
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A fair amount of good info there Julie, but I think your link reference to
HPLX Mailing Lists should point directly to Al's site at:

        http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml

rather than http://www.palmtop.net/hplist.html

Thanks.

- Longden

On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Julie Strietelmeier wrote:

> I hope this isn't an intrusion for me to post this, but I
> thought my new website might be of interest to other gagdet
> freaks out there.
>
> Check out The Gadgeteer at:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/~thegadgeteer

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On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Antonio Queiroz Menezes wrote:

> arrive any day now. As the Armada has an IR port I would like to know
> if I need some special software to connect my LX to it.
>
> Can anybody help me?

My son had the same question/problem with his 200LX and notebook. I don't
believe he ever got 2-way comm established and I believe the dialogue on
the list went that most IR ports are IRDA standard (the LX's IR pre-dates
IRDA). You may be stuck with using the serial cable.

There's an IRDA driver available that will allow the LX to print to an
IRDA printer, but not one (to my knowledge) that will allow bi-directional
communication with an IRDA port on a computer (ie, running Conn. Pack or
Laplink).

The LX's IR port is supposed to be an IR implementation of the serial
protocol and several notebooks apparently offer some options in how to
configure their IRs (maybe to the same type as the LX). However, to my
knowledge, no one I know has claimed to connect with either Laplink or
ConnPack to a non-LX IR port.

If I'm wrong on this and someone has actually done this (not
"theoretically"), I would like to know the magic words also.

- Longden

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Subject:      Fix hard to see colors on LX.  was: 25 Games for LX
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thanks for the link to the games...
I'm including a link to a file called pc-bw.  this will 'fix' your color
problems so that you will only see black and white. I've used this on
the LX and it works great!

Here you go!
http://www.bsoftware.com/a19c134p4.htm
just scroll down to pc-bw.zip

.M
> ----------
> From:         S. Piper[SMTP:cryophil@CRYOGEN.COM]
> Sent:         Thursday, September 11, 1997 10:23 AM
> Subject:      25 Games for LX
>
> Hey, you should see this!
>
> There's a zip of the best tested LX games. 25 ARCADE and CLASSIC games
> that
> work on the 100/200LX. Including:
>
> Joust, BuckRogers, Asteroids, STARWARS, Defender, ROBOTRON, Q-BERT
> PACman, Ms. pac... Frogger, INVADERs, AtariAdventure, SHAMUS, PINBALL,
> PCPOOL, ZAXXON, ...
>
> All are small, none over 50K, most between 10-20K in size, and one
> even 3K.
>
> Grab all at (450K - zip):
>
> ftp://207.245.67.67/site/graphiti/filez/arcadeLX.zip
>
> May not be there long.
>
> Some don't have keys well defined.  If you figure them out, post to
> the
> list/group so we can all know.
> --sp
>

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And for us here in Argentina:

How many  HP PALMTOP users are in Argentina?


Pablo KIM  from BUENOS AIRES
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I am trying to run the HP CPACK200 under NT3.51
I have run into problems in particular with the Appoinment app.
I can not enter times. The Start field will only accept 3 digits and then
beeps.
If I backspace, it says NONE and it can't be changed.

Any ideas???

Also, it seems that the CPACK can't be run in a window, it must be full
screen.
Anyway around this?

Also, I can no longer find the manual for the Connectivity Software.
Would someone be willing to make a photocopy?  I pay postage or whatever.

Does anyone syncronize between the Desktop and HP200?
How well does it work?

Mark Sailer
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Has anybody got a copy of the program called Stereo Shell. I used to have
a copy and can't seem to find it. I also can't seem to find it on the Net
using search engines. Thanks in advance for the help.

73 de KF4KGQ
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Sorry! No Ram upgrading for the 100/LX, only the TechSpeed Upgrade is
availabe for that unit.:(

Goto: http://www.times2tech.com

Regards,
Qman


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>Heard much about RAM upgrading of the HP200. Is it possible to upgrade an old
>HP100LX (1MB) from 1993?
>
>73 de Andreas, DC3AFA (from Heidelberg)
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:0 Stereo Shell (sts410.zip). I remember it well.

It can be found at:
http://www.simtel.net/simcgi-bin/dosfind.cgi?Stereo+Shell+

Regards,
Qman




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>Has anybody got a copy of the program called Stereo Shell. I used to have
>a copy and can't seem to find it. I also can't seem to find it on the Net
>using search engines. Thanks in advance for the help.
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The Armada and the LX can talk via IR full speed with no problems.
Just upgrade the IR drivers  to version 2 from the Ms site and then
select the serial IR HP driver during setup.

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Carl,
   You describe a "modified Newton Keyboard".  In what way is the
keyboard modified?  You are describing a bundle of an unmodified keyboard
and an adaptor cable.  Could you instead modify the keyboard so it had a
10 pin hplx connector one the outside end of the cable and a 6pin apple
connector on the end inside the keyboard where it attaches to the circuit
card?



On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Carl Merkle wrote:

> Shier Systems & Software will carry and sell a complete modified Newton
> Keyboard for $129, plus applicable sales taxes and shipping.
>
> To help us with purchasing and production, I'd like to accumulate requests
> and send them out in batches. We can ship the first batch within 3 weeks of
> this e-mail. Shipping will be first come, first served.
>
> Completed product includes the modified Newton keyboard and its standard
> carrying case [which can hold the 200LX in a very tight fit], a 3.5 inch
> diskette with software driver necessary to run, and our special printed
> instructions. The cable on the keyboard will be Shier's 9 pin connector to
> the 200LX's serial port. The cable will be approximately nine inches,
> unless a longer length is specified.
>
> Please respond by private e-mail to my address to place an order. I'll
> forward those on to the office who'll contact you by e-mail for payment at
> the appropriate time.
>
>      Thank you,
>
>      Carl Merkle
>      Director of Corporate Projects
>      Shier Systems & Software, Inc.
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I found a bug in notes in the Appiontment application.  ROM version 1.02a

The largest font does not work in Appt notes (full screen or not)

If I create the note in the large font, then close it and the appt app,
finally go back, then the largest font shows as the smallest, so there are
two smallest fonts, with differing line separation.

Furthermore, If before I begin typing the note text (after pressing F3) I
ZOOM to the largest font size, then type the note,  when I go back to the
day view, the note indicator on the left is a dot--just like the repeat
indicator.  Now if I go to another app and come back, the little note
indicator icon is correct.  As long as the note indicator is a dot, I can
use the ZOOM to see it in the largest font size.  Once it goes to a little
paper icon, the zoom doesn't work.  If I create a repeating event, then a
note in the same appoint, it won't zoom correctly after the repeat is set.

Here's how I get the first bug:  With everything closed, and the title
screen showing, press APPT.  Goto DAY view (F9).  Press ADD (F2).  Type in
a description "test" or whatever.  Press NOTE (F3). Type in a note,
"Another test."  Press OK (F10).  Press DONE (F10).

The note indicator is a little paper icon.  Now try to view the note in the
largest font.  It will space the lines accordingly, but the character size
is the tiniest.  And there are three levels of zoom.

Second bug:   With everything closed, and the title screen showing, press
APPT.  Goto DAY view (F9).  Press ADD (F2).  Type in a description "test"
or whatever.  Press NOTE (F3). Press Fn-SPACE and zoom to the largest
Cursor size before typing in a note.  Press OK (F10).  Press DONE (F10).

The note indicator should be a dot.  The zoom should work until you leave
the appt app.

Anyone else see this?

--sp

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 >I tried a very old version of Autocad (2.something, I think) I seem to
>recall that it worked, but I can't recall why I put it aside.  It might
>have been before I figured out how to "mouse" on my palmtop.
>
>Phil

How do you 'mouse' on the palmtop?


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I'm sorry, I should have said "how to use a mouse", I guess the damage
to my brain (from the war 'tween the left brain and right brain) got in
the way of understandable communications.

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><snip>  It might have been before I figured out how to "mouse" on my
>> palmtop.
>>
>>Phil
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>How do you 'mouse' on the palmtop?
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S. Piper wrote:

> I found a bug in notes in the Appiontment application.  ROM version
> 1.02a
> <snip>
> Anyone else see this?

Yep, there does indeed seem to be a bug in the zooming in the
appointment book.  And it's independent of whether or not you have an
external font TSR (i.e., ANDREW) loaded.  I guess it could be
inconvenient.

Gee, I wonder how long it will take HP to come out with an upgrade to
fix this bug!  Hmmm... shall we say, NEVER?  Not that I'm cynical about
HP or anything...
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Try http://www.filepile.com

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<< You are describing a bundle of an unmodified keyboard
and an adaptor cable.>>

Not what I meant to say if that's how you interpreted it.

 << Could you instead modify the keyboard so it had a
10 pin hplx connector one the outside end of the cable and a 6pin apple
connector on the end inside the keyboard where it attaches to the circuit=

card?>>

This is how it has been modified.

     Regards,
     Carl Merkle

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Martin Sebastian wrote:

> HP>Anyone have had success with Panasonic PCMCIA CDROM to work on a HP
>
> HP>Palmtop?
>  No  with the 200lx, only with a laptop (toshiba), I think that is
> because it's too much for the AA batteries.... :(

Actually, the card should be able to work in the 200LX.  The problem is
the drivers.  The PC Card controller in the 200LX is not Intel PCIC
compatible, so you can't load Card and Socket Services 2.1, which most
of the newer PC Card devices require.  If somebody wrote a C&SS 2.1
driver for the 200LX's controller, then it would work.  So far, though,
nobody's done it.  And, who knows, maybe nobody can.  But it sure would
be nice to have 600MB of data available on your palmtop...

Alternatively, of course, what we need is a CD-ROM drive that works off
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On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Andrea Basso wrote:

> The Armada and the LX can talk via IR full speed with no problems.
> Just upgrade the IR drivers  to version 2 from the Ms site and then
> select the serial IR HP driver during setup.

Is this true for just the Compaqs or for most notebooks?

- Longden

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<nervous about asking an untelligent question>
There must be something I'm not aware of so. . . .

Would it be possible to buy the 1000CX and add the connectivity pack
software to it?

just wondering . .

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I'M NOT SHOUTING. I CAN READ ALL CAPS MUCH EASIER THAN LOWERS.

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE YOU CAN GET A CONNECTOR FORTHE DATA OUTPUT FOR
THE TRIMBLE SCOUTMASTER GPS? ALSO WHAT SERIES IS THE COAX CONNECTOR FOR
THAT SAME UNIT?

IF ANYONE HAS ACCESS TO A GPS LIST, ANY ASSISTANCE WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

73
SPENCE, K4KEP

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On Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:53:10 -0400, you wrote:

>The Armada and the LX can talk via IR full speed with no problems.
>Just upgrade the IR drivers  to version 2 from the Ms site and then
>select the serial IR HP driver during setup.

I just checked the MS site, and the Irda driver there is the same as
the one I downloaded a long while back. The files are dated 08/95. Can
you give a pointer to these *new* drivers you claim to have.

--=20
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I know this is a FAQ and I've read all I could in the list archives,
faq, etc, but aside from the Silicom 10BT and Accton 2216 has anyone
been able to get any other pc card ethernet adapters to work on the 200LX?
The Silicom seems very hard to find & the Accton uses twice as much
power.  The Socket EA appears to have the lowest power consumption
(60ma for Silicom, 110 for Accton, 40 for Socket, 10 base t only models),
but the last faq said the drivers don't quite work.

Again, sorry if this is a FAQ.  Info seems really hard to find.
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>
> > The Armada and the LX can talk via IR full speed with no problems.
> > Just upgrade the IR drivers  to version 2 from the Ms site and then
> > select the serial IR HP driver during setup.
>
> Is this true for just the Compaqs or for most notebooks?

I never tested other laptops but I estimate it should work on all

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At 13:53 12/09/97 -0400, you wrote:
>The Armada and the LX can talk via IR full speed with no problems.
>Just upgrade the IR drivers  to version 2 from the Ms site and then
>select the serial IR HP driver during setup.

Upgrade drivers where ?, 200LX or Armada ?, what's the "Ms" site ?

Regards. Nacho.

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At 02:26 PM 12/09/97, you wrote:
>Hi, all
>
>As I live in the town in a tiny flat and spend all the weekends in my
>family=B4s country house I don=B4t own a desktop. I use a notebook for
>personal and academic purposes. The time has arrived to put aside my
>old notebook (my 12 y. old godson is thrilled, I'm going to give it
>to him) a Compaq Contura, and so I ordered a Compaq Armada due to
>arrive any day now. As the Armada has an IR port I would like to know
>if I need some special software to connect my LX to it.
>

You have to enable your IR port on your notebook at the setup screen. If you
are using the PCMCIA port, you have to set it to com3, at least I had to on
mine, as it was conflicting with the IR port which is com2. Set your HP to
57600 baud and Infrared and load the HP Connectivity software, set the same
baud rate for your notebook and the appropriate com port. Works for me. Good
luck.

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Subject:      Re: ethernet card

> I know this is a FAQ and I've read all I could in the list archives,
> faq, etc, but aside from the Silicom 10BT and Accton 2216 has anyone
> been able to get any other pc card ethernet adapters to work on the 200LX?
> The Silicom seems very hard to find & the Accton uses twice as much
> power.  The Socket EA appears to have the lowest power consumption
> (60ma for Silicom, 110 for Accton, 40 for Socket, 10 base t only models),
> but the last faq said the drivers don't quite work.
>
> Again, sorry if this is a FAQ.  Info seems really hard to find.
> --
> Jeff Chan,  Senior Network Services Engineer
> Best Internet Communications, Inc.
> mailto:jeffc@best.net  *  (650) 944-8276  *  http://netserv.best.com/

I have a Socket EA and its point enabler doesn't work on the LX. I have a
couple Omnibooks and it specifically supports the Omnibook 300 so I had
hopes it would work with the LX since I think they use the same PCMCIA
controller but no go. It starts up and goes through this pcm test and it
fails saying there are two few IO windows, it checks up to 7 or 8 and I
think it wants to go to 10. If anyone had any clues I would be really happy.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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Hi Barry | everyone,

I'm not sure how this mailing list works yet; I've sent this to
palmusoz@forensic.sa.gov.au, and I guess I'll see what happens!

> You probably didn't get a message that I sent to you personally a
> number of weeks ago, Brendan,
I don't remember seeing it...   :^(

Thanks for the info!

----
In case this gets mailed to all, here's my little contribution to hplx's
in Australia:

I bought my hp200lx from USA, because they were *breathtakingly*
expensive here - we're talking $400 extra here in Melbourne.
Unfortunately, Australia is somehow excluded from HP's worldwide
warranty, so I'll have to send it O/S if it breaks. SO far, none of its
falls to concrete have been fatal. <g>

Brendan

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On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Carol Bernstein wrote:

> Would it be possible to buy the 1000CX and add the connectivity pack
> software to it?
>
> just wondering . .

Given the dropping prices for the 200LX and the hassles involved in
installing CP on a non-desktop, not to mention the disk space
required...it may be possible, but probably not practical. Even if it were
done, probably would still be just a shadow of the 200LX (no 123, PQ).

- Longden

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Marta Pierce wrote:
>
> Hi,
>  I followed the instructions from the palmtop.net regarding this.  I did
>  everything it says, except that instead of placing the programs in an A
>  drive it is in my f drive.
>
>  I always get the error, can't find file f:\m ....any key continues.
>  this prompt is from the gdspell program, not from dos.
>
>  If someone can help me, I would gladly appreciate it.
>
>  I have all 3 programs in my f:\gdspell directory
>  spell.exe
>  mf.exe
>  memochk.bat which has this line in it. (f:\gdspell\mf spell \M)
>  I also placed mf into my path file.
>
>  I think that it is the mf program that is not working right.  It
> doesn't
>  seem to be passing the last doc file from memo to the spell program.  I
>  am using a hp200lx 1mg w/ a 15 mg card jammed w/ 30+ mg.
>
>  TIA
>  Marta

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Barry Collins <collib@ATOM.FORENSIC.SA.GOV.AU> wrote:

>Finally, I hope that one of our members will not mind my mentioning
>that the Palmtop Paper has suggested that he produce an article on
>aspects or problems of using the Palmtop "Down Under" (a term which
>covers Australasia).  It took me a while reading e-mail upside down,
>but when I complained, HP said that I must be putting the modem card
>in the wrong way round <G>.

To the best of my knowledge, there is an appendix in the HP200LX
instruction manual regarding using PC cards in Australia. You dont have to
put them in upside down - just spread a fine (0.01mm thick) layer of
vegemite on the underside of the card. This prevents them falling out while
travelling Down Under ;)



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Do you remember how you set up the video mode for Autocad on your HP?
Did you use some special video driver from Autodesk or HP, or just the
CGA/EGA driver in Acad?  Did you have to fiddle with the video mode on
the HP before loading Acad?

David

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Subject:      del \_dat\notes.ndb
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hi,

can i delete c:\_dat\notes.ndb without crashing the application manager?

i'm scratching for extra memory, and this 20K file seems to just be the
little tour you get the first time you open an application. ie Fn! and
Fn? for installing DOS programs in the app manager etc.

thanks.

brendan
ps just a case of feeling a bit lower today <g>

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On Sat, 13 Sep 1997, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> can i delete c:\_dat\notes.ndb without crashing the application manager?
>
> i'm scratching for extra memory, and this 20K file seems to just be the
> little tour you get the first time you open an application. ie Fn! and
> Fn? for installing DOS programs in the app manager etc.

This is the default notes file created when the system powers up for the
first time ever (there should be an identical copy in d:\_dat\notes.ndb
unless you've made changes to the c: version, and it sounds like you
haven't).

You Notes app (Ctrl-Memo) probably points to a file on your A: drive.

If you take your PC card out and try to bring up the Notes apps, it'll
probably recreate the C: version again by copying it from D:.

In short, yes you can delete it, as long as you don't have any personal
info on it that you want to keep.

>
> thanks.
>
> brendan
> ps just a case of feeling a bit lower today <g>

It's a wonder how you guys keep from falling up down there<g>.

- Longden

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From:         Eduardo Cesana <ecesana@E-NET.COM.BR>
Organization: ECOLOGICA
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>And for us here in Argentina:

>How many  HP PALMTOP users are in Argentina?

I'm not in Argentina but in Brasil . May I help you ?



[]s


Eduardo Cesana

ECOLOGICA Tecnologia & Controle Ambiental Ltda
Tel +55 (0)71 375-3311  Fax +55 (0)71 375-1141
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Does anyone have a copy of palclf.zip that they could email me? It's a
program that allows you to close Filer on the 200LX. I've tried the
program on the SUPER site but haven't had any luck getting it to work
even though I have followed the instructions. Maybe it's because of
certain TSR's I have loaded. Anyway, I read about the palclf.zip in the
Palmtop Paper and would like to give it a shot. Thanks in advance!

73 de KF4KGQ
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Subject:      200lx support device

i'm thinking of buying an omnibook 300 as support equipment for my 200lx.  it
seems like it would accomplish all the the interface challanges i have.
 flash card back-up would be very fast, by simply moving it over & backing it
up.

all the things which you can do with a doubleshot or a pcmcia parallel port
could be done.  besides, you get a bigger key board and a bigger screen,
whenevever you are using this particular piece of support gear.

of course it doesn't fit in a pocket, but then neither do all those other
things.  When ever i have my brief case close by (80% of the time), i will
have the added capability.  it's as easy to take along as any of that other
support equipment. maybe even a neater package.

any relevent experience?

thanx,

lynn m. cavendish

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I use an Omnibook to do just that. I have a parallel port network adapter
and I run win3.11 on the omnibook. You will need a later series Omnibook
than the 300. I will not run windows in enhanced mode, and that is need for
win3.11

karl

I can move files the of flash card with out any problems.


At 06:49 PM 9/13/97 -0400, you wrote:
>i'm thinking of buying an omnibook 300 as support equipment for my 200lx.  it
>seems like it would accomplish all the the interface challanges i have.
> flash card back-up would be very fast, by simply moving it over & backing it
>up.
>
>all the things which you can do with a doubleshot or a pcmcia parallel port
>could be done.  besides, you get a bigger key board and a bigger screen,
>whenevever you are using this particular piece of support gear.
>
>of course it doesn't fit in a pocket, but then neither do all those other
>things.  When ever i have my brief case close by (80% of the time), i will
>have the added capability.  it's as easy to take along as any of that other
>support equipment. maybe even a neater package.
>
>any relevent experience?
>
>thanx,
>
>lynn m. cavendish
>
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Lynn,

My experience has been that notebook computers are not a rugged as the 200LX, so be
careful.

Once, while living in Minnesota, I slipped on some ice and fell.  Even though by PC was in
a briefcase, the screen was cracked.  I do not believe that it would have been a problem
for the 200LX.  This is because notebook PCs are not as torsionally stiff and any angular
deflection of the top-half of the case will crack the screen.  Plus, the 200LX has less
mass to cause a problem when dropped.

BTW, I think that HP makes great notebook PCs.

Michael

--- On Sat, 13 Sep 1997 18:49:07 -0400  "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM> wrote:

>i'm thinking of buying an omnibook 300 as support equipment for my 200lx.  it
>seems like it would accomplish all the the interface challanges i have.
> flash card back-up would be very fast, by simply moving it over & backing it
>up.
>
>all the things which you can do with a doubleshot or a pcmcia parallel port
>could be done.  besides, you get a bigger key board and a bigger screen,
>whenevever you are using this particular piece of support gear.
>
>of course it doesn't fit in a pocket, but then neither do all those other
>things.  When ever i have my brief case close by (80% of the time), i will
>have the added capability.  it's as easy to take along as any of that other
>support equipment. maybe even a neater package.
>
>any relevent experience?
>
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Hello,

I use an HP 5000 Laptop with infrared. Both Connectivity Pack and TransFile=
 work for me.  All I did was enter BIOS setup mode (most computers allow=
 this on cold boot) and map the Infrared port to COM1.  Hopefully, the=
 Armada will allow this as well. If not, you could alway buy HP :-)

Sincerely,
Dennis Faucher
Professional Services
Hewlett-Packard Company
Burlington, MA
(617) 221-5090
dennis_faucher@hp.com

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On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Antonio Queiroz Menezes wrote:

> arrive any day now. As the Armada has an IR port I would like to know
> if I need some special software to connect my LX to it.
>
> Can anybody help me?

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Mark,

I have used the Connectivity Pack under NT 3.51 and NT 4.0. It worked=
 fine for me under both OSs. Long file transfers seem to time out from=
 Filer to Filer.  I get around this problem by using TransFile or booting=
 from a DOS floppy and using CPACK.

Sincerely,
Dennis Faucher
Professional Services
Hewlett-Packard Company
Burlington, MA
(617) 221-5090
dennis_faucher@hp.com

----- forwarded message -----
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Does anyone syncronize between the Desktop and HP200?
How well does it work?
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I have an PCMCIA Intel Flash Series 2+ card that
I wanted to use with my HP 100LX. M-systems TrueFFS
software fixed me up. I got trueffs.zip from:
 http://www.ziplink.net/~maxm/omnigo/programs.html
The most recent files are from July 1996 and it includes
software for using the flash cards with the Omnigo.

The 100LX needs this line in config.sys:
  device=c:tffs.com /drive=a /size=4096
The supplied install program does this.
However the format program failed.
So I used my Compaq Aero (installing TrueFFS).
The Compaq has Card Services installed so its config.sys
uses tffscs.com. (The HP has the lower level socket services).

Its Very handy managing file transfer when the card is my
486 notebook d: drive.

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>Message-ID:  <Chameleon.873727492.mdstockr@default.neo.lrun.com>
>Date:         Mon, 8 Sep 1997 10:05:00 -0400
>From:         mdstockr <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
>Subject:      Re: Defrag for the palmtop
>Does anyone know how I can defragment my palmtop drive(s)

The RAM drive do not need to be defragged.
and defragging a FLASH card could take valuable
life cycle away (it performs a program called in
layman term leveling).
Regardz.....

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<Snip>
program that allows you to close Filer on the 200LX. I've tried the
program on the SUPER site but haven't had any luck getting it to work
even though I have followed the instructions. Maybe it's because of
certain TSR's I have loaded. Anyway, I read about the palclf.zip in the
<Snip>

I had similar trouble: I ran the file according to the directions, was
able to close the filer once, but after I re-activated it I haven't been
able to close it since (despite re-boots and re-installs with closefiler).
??? Anyone else???

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where can i get a copy of the POP3 program POST/LX? are there other e-mail
programs for the lx that support PPP?

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You both sound like you probably know this, but it is so easy to overlook
that I'll remind you just in case.

>From the filer, go directly to the application manager by pressing the MORE
key.  If you use menu quit from the filer, closefiler won't work.  Then go
on and highlight the filer and press F6 (close).

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> <Snip>
> program that allows you to close Filer on the 200LX. I've tried the
> program on the SUPER site but haven't had any luck getting it to work
> even though I have followed the instructions. Maybe it's because of
> certain TSR's I have loaded. Anyway, I read about the palclf.zip in the
> <Snip>
>
> I had similar trouble: I ran the file according to the directions, was
> able to close the filer once, but after I re-activated it I haven't been
> able to close it since (despite re-boots and re-installs with closefiler).
> ??? Anyone else???
>
>      G A T E S 9 9 @ M E D C O R . M C G I L L . C A

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>Sorry! No Ram upgrading for the 100/LX, only the TechSpeed Upgrade is
>availabe for that unit.:(

>Goto: http://www.times2tech.com

>Regards,
>Qman >>

It's my turn to say _sorry_ ;-)
Thanks for your reply!

Andreas with greetings from Heidelberg, Germany

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> Hello,
>
> I use an HP 5000 Laptop with infrared. Both Connectivity Pack and TransF=
ile work for me.  All I did was enter BIOS setup mode (most computers allo=
w this on cold boot) and map the Infrared port to
COM>
> Sincerely,
> Dennis Faucher

Sorry Dennis,

Regarding calculators, palmtops,  desktops and printers (only at my
workplace I use a desktop) I=B4m a HP man, but regarding notebooks (or
portables)  I'm a Compaq man for over 7 years. As for palmtops I hope
HP doesn't forget us 200LXers.

regards

Antonio






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Jeff,

> Does anyone have a copy of palclf.zip that they could email me? It's a
> program that allows you to close Filer on the 200LX. I've tried the
> program on the SUPER site but haven't had any luck getting it to work
> even though I have followed the instructions. Maybe it's because of

The best utility to close the filer app on the fly is FCLOSE.EXM --
created by Hiro Sekiya -- bundled in the package of Tasklist.  It is in
the BONUS pack in the Tasklist package.  You can find it on SUPER site.

Since it is a EXM program, all you need to do is press a HOT KEY.

Other utility in the Bonus Pack, such as Closeall.exm, is also
interesting to some.  Please check it out.


Toshiki Sasabe
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On the 100LX, filer, application submenu has a terminate all entry.

Michael S Goggin wrote:
>
> You both sound like you probably know this, but it is so easy to overlook
> that I'll remind you just in case.
>
> >From the filer, go directly to the application manager by pressing the MORE
> key.  If you use menu quit from the filer, closefiler won't work.  Then go
> on and highlight the filer and press F6 (close).
>
> ----------
> > <Snip>
> > program that allows you to close Filer on the 200LX. I've tried the
> > program on the SUPER site but haven't had any luck getting it to work
> > even though I have followed the instructions. Maybe it's because of
> > certain TSR's I have loaded. Anyway, I read about the palclf.zip in the
> > <Snip>
> >
> > I had similar trouble: I ran the file according to the directions, was
> > able to close the filer once, but after I re-activated it I haven't been
> > able to close it since (despite re-boots and re-installs with closefiler).
> > ??? Anyone else???
> >
> >      G A T E S 9 9 @ M E D C O R . M C G I L L . C A
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Brendan wrote:

> I'm using a Kawai GMouse - $200 Australian (about $US150) - needs 6 AA
> batteries. Has reverb and good orchestral sounds.
> But Yamaha MU-5 also works, and is probably more available.


Kawai GMouse -- sounds like a fancy mouse cable, but apparently
it's a music synthesizer of some sort - right?


At 02:27 PM 9/10/97 +1000, you wrote:
>>      Control a musical instrument through MIDI (haven't tried this one yet,
>
>Yes, it works. I reccommend "gsplay" of the approx. 5 I tried. [SimTel]
>NB it does stumble a little on very complex pieces (around 12 parts moving
>fast). Works fine on a faster computer.
>cakewalk also works, but it's a pain.
>
>I'm using a Kawai GMouse - $200 Australian (about $US150) - needs 6 AA
>batteries. Has reverb and good orchestral sounds.
>But Yamaha MU-5 also works, and is probably more available.
>
>You need another null-modem to compensate for the one built-in the palmtop's
>cable. Or make your own. [This was a discouraging headache to figure out!]
>
>===
>FWIW I think the next quantum improvement in palmtops tech will not be
faster,
>smaller, lighter, or more memory. Not even video, sound or wireless.
>
>But simply a much higher contrast display -- compare your hp with a
newspaper!
>Such LCD colour displays are available as a spin-off from laptop tech; but
>are too expensive. Now.
>
>Brendan
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Hey Carl,

I was told by Debbie you'd ship this coming week.  Come on Shier let's pony
up the keyboard on time!

Get those buns rolling.

At 06:03 PM 9/11/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Shier Systems & Software will carry and sell a complete modified Newton
>Keyboard for $129, plus applicable sales taxes and shipping.
>
>To help us with purchasing and production, I'd like to accumulate requests
>and send them out in batches. We can ship the first batch within 3 weeks of
>this e-mail. Shipping will be first come, first served.
>
>Completed product includes the modified Newton keyboard and its standard
>carrying case [which can hold the 200LX in a very tight fit], a 3.5 inch
>diskette with software driver necessary to run, and our special printed
>instructions. The cable on the keyboard will be Shier's 9 pin connector to
>the 200LX's serial port. The cable will be approximately nine inches,
>unless a longer length is specified.
>
>Please respond by private e-mail to my address to place an order. I'll
>forward those on to the office who'll contact you by e-mail for payment at
>the appropriate time.
>
>     Thank you,
>
>     Carl Merkle
>     Director of Corporate Projects
>     Shier Systems & Software, Inc.
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FF is a file finder utility that can also do a lot of other stuff.

FF.COM is stored as ff211.zip at simtel.  Try:

    HTTP://www.simtel.net/simcgi-bin/dosfind.cgi


At 08:02 AM 9/10/97 -0400, you wrote:
><<One of the file finders I found had a *lot* of extra options!
>It's called, FF.COM (like the old Norton utility)..>>
>
>Now that sounds pretty powerful!  Please do post where it might be obtained!
>Thanks
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Agreed.  Fry's is overpriced.


At 03:25 PM 9/10/97 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>>Fry's have the hp200lx 4mb in stock. (Portland, OR)
>
>The Fry's in Woodland Hills, CA also has some in stock, but I would be very
>careful about buying it from them.  I bought one which was in an open box.
>They claimed someone probably just wanted to look at the manual and gave me
>$50 off.  They only had the one (4MB), so I had little choice.  It turned
>out that the main batteries, registration card and other literature was
>missing and the backup battery was installed and dead.  I returned it and
>bought one from CDW (mail order).  It came with all kinds of things, and
>the unit itself was in an HP-sealed plastic bag.  It was cheaper than Fry's
>with the $50 off and it came with a trial version of PUMA's Intellisync (or
>something like that) and a serial cable.
>
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Hello everyone,

I purchased a new HP 200LX about 2 months ago, and am quite pleased with
its functionality so far, but  I'm wondering if someone could answer a
question for me.

The left side hinge area of the palmtop is starting to have a lot of
play in it whether its open or closed, and it makes a clicking sound
when you move the left hinge back and forth (note: when the palmtop is
open the screen doesn't flop down).  Is this normal for the palmtop, or
is this the loose hinge problem stated in the HP 200LX FAQ?

Oh one more thing, when the palmtop is closed the top isn't flush with
the bottom anymore.  If you look at it from the latch side of the
palmtop, you can see there is a 1/16" gap at the right corner, and I
don't leave it in the sun or sit on it.  Could this be related to the
above problem!

If anyone can shed some light on this I'd much appreciate it.  Thanks!

Regards,

Jim

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Hi.   Would some kind soul send me a copy of the data files for ACT! , =
so that I can try the ACT! download from the Web?

TIA,

Domingo

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Hi folks.   Anyone knows how to get the facilities of MSWindows Write in =
a program for Dos?  The idea is that the program should not be huge, and =
hopefully available on the net.
I use MsWorks, and Wordperfect does something similar, but nothing comes =
quite close to Write  except some huge windows program.   Any ideas?

TIA

Domingo

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Oh boy, another Nettamer vs. Post/LX thread!   8=3D)

Hi again.   I have broken down to try again Nettamer, and like with my =
provider in Michigan, here in Florida I can do anything with Nettamer exc=
ept send e-mail (seems like nobody knows why that is).   The last version=
 that worked for me is 106, but I cannot find it on the net anymore.   =
I have though about Post/LX, but unlike Nettamer, it cannot be run in bot=
h the palmtop and the desktop (I know because I tried HV, which used to =
work on my desktop, but the latest version doesn't).  Why would I want =
to do that?  Because I find it easier to dowload messages to my flash car=
d on my desktop, then switch to my palmtop for reading throughout the day=
 (fooling around with cables is too cumbersome for me).  It seems that =
Post/LX will require you to either have a portable modem with your palmto=
p, or a pcmcia modem with a memory upgraded palmtop (I have a pcmcia mode=
m, a flash card and no memory upgrade, which would seem to make using tha=
t program impossible.   Any ideas or alternatives?

I have tried Minuet, Pegasus, PCPINE, and some other programs, all huge. =
  Seems like there should be a way . . .

TIA

Domingo

P.S.  My new provider has no unix shell.  8=3D(

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<<where can i get a copy of the POP3 program POST/LX? are there other
e-mail
programs for the lx that support PPP?>>

Assuming you are in the Americas or Australia, you can get it from:

   Shier Systems & Software (805) 371-9391http://www.shier.com or,

   D&A Software http://www.dasoft.com

     Regards,

     Carl Merkle
     SS&S

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I've got a copy of Microsoft Flight Simulator 4.0 which runs great on the
200LX. You can use the keyboard or the HPMOUSE program off the SUPER
site. I picked it up at a flea market. I've got the 3.5" disk, orginal
box and the manual. If anybody would like it please make me an offer.

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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> To the best of my knowledge, there is an appendix in the HP200LX
> instruction manual regarding using PC cards in Australia. You dont
> have to
> put them in upside down - just spread a fine (0.01mm thick) layer of
> vegemite on the underside of the card. This prevents them falling out
> while
> travelling Down Under ;)
>
[Stephen Robb]  does Marmite work as well? ;-)

Regards,

Stephen

Stephen Robb
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In case anyone is interested ...

I have been able to use Transfile Win 200 with a 95LX w/o problem.
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  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
           9/14/97 5:30:12 PM EDT
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mdstockr wrote:
>
> In case anyone is interested ...
>
> I have been able to use Transfile Win 200 with a 95LX w/o problem.
> ______________________________________________
>
>   "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
>            9/14/97 5:30:12 PM EDT
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>
That is wonderful new indeed!  When I upgraded, I gave my 95 to my
husband and we never tried using Transfile.  It will save us alot of
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Does anyone know of a good program that will decompress .lzh files on the
200LX?

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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On Sun, 14 Sep 1997 19:00:41  Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

> Does anyone know of a good program that will decompress .lzh files=
 on
> the 200LX?

Check on SimTel in the MSDOS/ARCERS subdirectory for LHA255. This will
decompress and create .lzh files (also self-extracting .exe files)

Hope this helps...

-PR
---------

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Jose,

You must buy WWW/LX to get POST/LX.  It is worth it.  You may also want=
 to try Nettamer (palmtop.net) as an Email/Internet/PPP suite.

Sincerely,
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Over the past year of using my 200LX I've heard much talk of the Stacker
program. I'm sure there are some other folks out there like me who are
wondering about it so let me pose a couple of questions:

1) Can you compress your C drive? If so how much can you compress it?
2) How safe and reliable is the program?
3) Where can you get Stacker and approx. how much does it cost?

I am hoping that I can just compress the C drive to keep from having to
send off my "little buddy" to have a 4MB upgrade installed. Thanks in
advance!!!

73 de KF4KGQ
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Hi Folk

Yesterday, I saw TV news which contain the detail about there is one child
from Newzealand who can solve year 2000 problem. I don't know in detail.
Anyone who can get more detail. Could you please post it to this mailing
list since I think there are many people would like to know.

Thanks

Fong

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> The left side hinge area of the palmtop is starting to have a lot =
of
> play in it whether its open or closed, and it makes a clicking sound
> when you move the left hinge back and forth (note: when the palmtop =
is
> open the screen doesn't flop down).  Is this normal for the palmtop, =
or
> is this the loose hinge problem stated in the HP 200LX FAQ?

I think that a bit of play (not excessive) can be considered normal =
- mine
does practically the same thing. No cause for alarm here really.

> Oh one more thing, when the palmtop is closed the top isn't flush =
with
> the bottom anymore.

Are you sure this wasn't the case when you first got it? Perhaps you =
didn't
notice it until now. FWIW I have a similar gap but it doesn't affect =
the
latch or anything else for that matter.

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> I have though about Post/LX, but unlike Nettamer, it cannot be
> run in both the palmtop and the desktop (I know because I tried HV, =
which
> used to work on my desktop, but the latest version doesn't).

Post/Lx is a great choice and there is a utility available on SUPER
(http://www.palmtop.net/super.html) that should allow you to run post/lx
quite easily on a desktop PC. Here is some brief information from its
documentation:

-------------------------------------------------------------
 PALRUN Vr.1.0: Desktop PAL Application Launcher - June 1997
-------------------------------------------------------------

PALRUN is a utility that allows PAL applications to be used on any =
IBM
compatible computer. Usually, a PAL application is a program which =
is
designed to run only on the HP100/200LX series of palmtops. The reason
that PAL applications won't run directly on regular desktop computers =
is
that the HP palmtops are using a special graphics mode which is not
available on other computers.

HV, the famous HTML viewer for the HP100/200LX palmtops (written by
Andreas Garzotto), PalEdit, and DBView have been successfully tested =
on a
desktop computer using PALRUN. Some "PRA" (PalRun-Aware) applications =
such
as PalEdit and HV (from D&A Software Inc.) take advantage of the VGA
display mode of PALRUN and display more information on the screen.

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Hi
> From: James Lee <leejames@INTERGATE.BC.CA>
> The left side hinge area of the palmtop is starting to have a lot of
> play in it whether its open or closed, and it makes a clicking sound
> when you move the left hinge back and forth (note: when the palmtop is
> open the screen doesn't flop down).  Is this normal for the palmtop, or
> is this the loose hinge problem stated in the HP 200LX FAQ?
Same as my HP200LX (SG70 and SG43) and old HP100LX (SG41)
=Normal
> Oh one more thing, when the palmtop is closed the top isn't flush with
> the bottom anymore.  If you look at it from the latch side of the
> palmtop, you can see there is a 1/16" gap at the right corner, and I
> don't leave it in the sun or sit on it.  Could this be related to the
> above problem!
NO as HP200's are both with gap on right side when closed but HP100
 (with very loose Left hinge) sits dead even. Possibly the top was never
"flush with the bottom" but after 2 months you have mastered the inside
of your HP200 and and have just started to look at the outside! I noticed
that my latest HP200 came a little twisted after breaking the screen on
my old one.

Regards
John Shaw
1414lxm@ihug.co.nz

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Hoooooooooo boy, this is a cool solution.  I'm using it myself.  Here's =
what I did.

* Grab a copy of Windows 2.03 or 1.01 off Trixter's Abandonware site
(http://boxotrix.it-ias.depaul.edu/abandonware/)
-- btw, 2.03 is smaller, runs better, and looks nicer than 1.01.  All 1.0=
1 is good for
  is admiring the "ancient"  MICR(=3D)SOFT logo.

* Find a copy of the DOS 5 version of SETVER and make it so Windows think=
s it's
running under DOS 3.1.  Then, go for it.  The whole thing is a complete =
installation

of Windows, but you can delete extras and stuff and get it down to about =
1.5 megs.

You can then run Windows under System Manager using Maxdos, or you can =
run
System Manager under Windows using MS-DOS Executive.  Falls under "intere=
sting
but pointless."  Kewl anyway.

NB - I don't remember which, but there is some keyboard enhancer for the =
200 that
lets you do important things such as OFF when you're running Windows.  =
I'd suggest
you get it.

I'd upload my installed copy of Win 2.03 with SETVER but I have no idea =
what
the legal implications would be.  Besides, who wants old Microsoft trash =
anyways?
(Actually, I think Windows 2 is the nicest one they made.  That's what =
I'm running
on my K5 right now. ;)

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

"P.S.  People like you ought to be shot." -- Myself

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Hi folks.   Anyone knows how to get the facilities of MSWindows
Write in a program for Dos?  The idea is that the program should
not be huge, and hopefully available on the net. I use MsWorks,
and Wordperfect does something similar, but nothing comes quite
close to Write  except some huge windows program.   Any ideas?


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Hi
Saw this briefly on local tv and the 14yo boy said that his fix was for
HARDWARE
only. Showed him in DOS on his computer.
The TV station is at  http://www.tvnz.co.nz  if that is any help
There are already PC Bios fixes such as year2000.com and I am not sure
if the boy's program does any more...

Regards

John Shaw
1414lxm@ihug.co.nz
New Zealand


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> From: Rattipat Aramwatanapong <fong@CHEERFUL.COM>
> Yesterday, I saw TV news which contain the detail about there is one
child
> from Newzealand who can solve year 2000 problem. I don't know in detail.
> Anyone who can get more detail. Could you please post it to this mailing
> list since I think there are many people would like to know.
> Thanks
> Fong

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I need technical data on the F1027A accessory  cradle for HP-100LX.
Also, if anyone could e-mail me a demo file for Act!, would be
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> Over the past year of using my 200LX I've heard much talk of the =
Stacker
> program. I'm sure there are some other folks out there like me who =
are
> wondering about it so let me pose a couple of questions:
>
> 1) Can you compress your C drive? If so how much can you compress =
it?

Yes. You can achieve the maximum compression ratios based on the version
you select. Stacker 4.x gives approx 2.5:1 compression so 'stacking' =
340K
should yield about 850K but remember this figure depends on what *type* =
of
files you wish to store on the stacker drive. It could be less! Since =
the
stacker device driver will occupy some of the uncompressed C: drive =
the
gains may not be worth the effort on a 1Mb machine.

> 2) How safe and reliable is the program?

Its as good as compression software comes and rock solid on the 100/200LX!
Of course compression adds an additional layer of complexity to your
machine and as such no compressor can truly boast 100% reliability =
100% of
the time. Perhaps one may argue that the same is true for a harddisk =
as
well...

> 3) Where can you get Stacker and approx. how much does it cost?

Sorry, can't help with this one but an alternative to consider is JAM =
- a
shareware compression program (free for personal use I believe) available
on the net, which is also very reliable and achieves almost as good
compression and speed as stacker 4.x.

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> It seems that Post/LX will require you to either have a portable =
modem
> with your palmtop, or a pcmcia modem with a memory upgraded palmtop =
(I
> have a pcmcia modem, a flash card and no memory upgrade, which would =
seem
> to make using that program impossible.   Any ideas or alternatives?

These limitations that you outline do not apply exclusively to post/lx =
but
rather to your use of any communications, internet or faxing applications.
If you use a 1mb machine with a pc card modem in the slot you will =
run
into problems regardless of which software you choose for any of the =
tasks
I mentioned earlier.

In order to take advantage of the internet, email, faxing etc. on your
palmtop it will require the use of a modem and sufficient storage space =
to
be present *at the same time*. My suggestions are:

1- An external or pocket modem with a flashcard,
2- A combination memory/modem card,
3- A suitable pc card modem with a c: drive upgrade of 4 or 8Mb.
4- A 2 or 4mb factory unit with a suitable pc card or external modem.

I see no other alternatives...

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> > I'm using a Kawai GMouse - $200 Australian (about $US150) - needs 6 AA
> > batteries. Has reverb and good orchestral sounds.
>
> Kawai GMouse -- sounds like a fancy mouse cable, but apparently
> it's a music synthesizer of some sort - right?

Right! It's about the same size as a computer mouse. It's a music
synthesiser - though they say "tone generator". It implements the GM
midi standard - which includes about a 100 drum sounds. Sounds great!
So, those are the two sources of the name G M ouse.

It has lots of great sounds; I only mentioned the orchestral ones, because
these are better than the equivalent sounds on more expensive units. The
rock sounds (distorted guitar etc) are about the same.

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Jeff wrote:
>
> Over the past year of using my 200LX I've heard much talk of the Stacker
> program. I'm sure there are some other folks out there like me who are
> wondering about it so let me pose a couple of questions:
>
> 1) Can you compress your C drive? If so how much can you compress it?
> 2) How safe and reliable is the program?
> 3) Where can you get Stacker and approx. how much does it cost?
>
> I am hoping that I can just compress the C drive to keep from having to
> send off my "little buddy" to have a 4MB upgrade installed. Thanks in
> advance!!!

(JEFF. EDUCALC HAS A NEW 5 MEG SRAM CARD. YOU MIGHT CONSIDER THAT. I AM
WAITING FOR MINE NOW. SPENCE - K4KEP)

>
> 73 de KF4KGQ
> Jeff Johns
> jeffj@scott.net
>
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Yes, what do you want version 3 or 4. A local store  is recycling old
software and has copies of stacker 3 for $10.00 and version 4 for
$15.00.

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com

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>
> Hi
>
> I just got a new EXP modem with 4MB or ram. How do I stack the ram
> portion
> of the drive.  Does anyone know where to buy the stacker software?
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Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:
>
> Yes, what do you want version 3 or 4. A local store  is recycling old
> software and has copies of stacker 3 for $10.00 and version 4 for
> $15.00.
>
> Stephen Souza
> mailto:ssouza@iname.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas H. Fitzgerald [SMTP:tom5e@PIPELINE.COM]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 1997 04:12
> > To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject:      EXP MODEM
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I just got a new EXP modem with 4MB or ram. How do I stack the ram
> > portion
> > of the drive.  Does anyone know where to buy the stacker software?
> >
> >
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I have used Stacker 3.0 for several years and it has performed
flawlessly for me.  Those of you who want to use Stacker should probably
acquire it now.  I just received a notice that as of September 30, 1997
Stac, Inc. will discontinue both sales and support of Stacker.  Of
course, you will probably be able to find it in bargain bins for a while
but who knows.

JS

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Subject:      Re: IR connection with notebook

I tried all types of configurations with my Fujitsu lifebook and cannot
connect via IR.

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>>Date:         Mon, 8 Sep 1997 10:05:00 -0400
>>From:         mdstockr <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
>>Subject:      Re: Defrag for the palmtop
>>Does anyone know how I can defragment my palmtop drive(s)
>
>The RAM drive do not need to be defragged.
>and defragging a FLASH card could take valuable
>life cycle away (it performs a program called in
>layman term leveling).


Just a tiny expansion on that.  Defragmentation is needed in hard drives
because they have relatively slow seek times with relatively fast read
times.  A Flash doesn't suffer from slow seeks - it's as instant as it's
possible to get.  Therefore, there should be no real reason to need a
defrag.

Rudy

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I downloaded Mitch (KC8GJI) Hamm's 'Hambands' database off of the SUPER
site.

It's a really great listing of the ham bands with pictoral
representation of the various bands.

Does anyone have any database info for shortwave listening?  Something
that might list the various frequencies and times the BBC broadcasts in
English, etc.

Any pointers would help.  Thanks.

Marty

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HP>Does anyone know of a good program that will decompress .lzh files on the
HP>200LX?

   The LHA program is the one, it'll decompress all kinds of lzh files.
   It's a shareware, you cand find it anyware....


HP>73 de KF4KGQ
HP>Jeff Johns
HP>jeffj@scott.net

   martin
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Where can I get the most inexpensive floppy drive for my HP200lx?

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In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Thu, 11 Sep 1997 08:24:10 PDT."
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> Does anyone know of a vector-based drawing package that'll run on the LX?
> (as opposed to a paint program like "Finger Paint" or "PC Paintbrush",
> which saves as .pcx).

Perhaps I misunderstand what you're looking for, but I'm surprised that
no one has mentioned PalDRAW.  It's the shareware Draw/CAD package by Ariel
Rocholl, specifically for the LX:

    http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ariel_rocholl/pd_home.htm

It uses the cursor keys to move around, so no mouse is required.  It
would be nice if a mouse was supported; I'd happily use (and register)
the software if it did.

                                -Jim.

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> where can i get a copy of the POP3 program POST/LX? are there other =
e-mail
> programs for the lx that support PPP?

Check out http://www.dasoft.com. There is a list of dealers that carry
POST/LX.

NetTamer, a shareware product, supports PPP too.

Andreas [D&A]

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> I have though about Post/LX, but unlike Nettamer, it cannot be run =
in bot
> h the palmtop and the desktop

FYI, POST/LX was written for the palmtop, but it also works on the
desktop. You need PALRUN though. It is available from
http://www.dasoft.com.

> It seems that
> Post/LX will require you to either have a portable modem with your =
palmto
> p, or a pcmcia modem with a memory upgraded palmtop (I have a pcmcia =
mode
> m, a flash card and no memory upgrade, which would seem to make using =
tha
> t program impossible.

Why would it seem to make that impossible? There are many people doing
it. You need a 2 meg machine though. On a 1 meg machine, it gets too
dense.

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On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, Jim Gonzalez wrote:

> > Does anyone know of a vector-based drawing package that'll run on the LX?
> > (as opposed to a paint program like "Finger Paint" or "PC Paintbrush",
> > which saves as .pcx).
>
> Perhaps I misunderstand what you're looking for, but I'm surprised that
> no one has mentioned PalDRAW.  It's the shareware Draw/CAD package by Ariel
> Rocholl, specifically for the LX:

I'm the original poster and it seems I've mucked up describing what I'm
looking for....which was a basic text editor with rudimentary sketching
capabilities so that I could use it in a class where the lecturer draws
alot of diagrams during the lectures.

All suggestions have been appreciated...but most of the drawing pkgs
mentioned here have text entry that's not optimal for note-taking.

What's needed is something simple and nimble that can combine text and
basic line graphics on a page for note-taking.  The Zoomer was able to do
it and I know the Pilot is also (via 3rd party software).  Many pen
computers come with something like this, but usually windows based (so
much for simple and fast).

- Longden

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Marty wrote:

> Does anyone have any database info for shortwave listening?  Something
> that might list the various frequencies and times the BBC broadcasts in
> English, etc.

I don't know of any LX-compatible databases, but you can find pointers
to many of the broadcaster sites from the "Shortwave/Radio Catalog" at
North Carolina State University:

    http://itre.ncsu.edu/radio/

In particular, it mentions the BBC site:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/

which has a separate page for their "World Service", including
shortwave frequencies and schedules:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/

                                -Jim.

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From:         Stefan Peichl <stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE>
Subject:      ANN: LxPic 5.0

A new version of LxPic is now available. This is what the DOC
file says:

Version 5.0  -Color reduction and color dither
(14-SEP-97)  -JPEG 'extended sequential DCT' support (SOF1)
             -JPEG 'progressive DCT' support (SOF2)
              (only DC coefficients are displayed)
             -JPEG application segment processing toggle {F10}
             -Start up with best possible resolution

Most changes concern JPEG. There are more and more progressive
JPEG images on the net. This is comparable to interlaced GIFs,
where the picture is refined in several scans. This was done
for 300 baud connections in the late 80'ies, so that you can
see quite fast, how the picture will look like. Unfortunately,
the situation on today's net is even worse than 300 baud.
Transfer rates are often extremely low. This is why these modes
are in fashion again, whereas from the programmer's point of
view they are terrible.

You should now see only few LxPic messages like 'unsupported
mode of operation'. But the most important enhancement is color
reduction. JPEG true color pictures are now displayed in color
in every color screen mode. The same applies for GIF in the 16
color VGA mode. This makes LxPic more valuable on the desktop,
where, as I know, you use it as well.

I'm now prepared for a DOS based color VGA palmtop.
Where is it?

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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Stacker Question
Comments: cc: pcitech@erols.com

In a message dated 97-09-14 21:52:51 EDT, you write:

<< 3) Where can you get Stacker and approx. how much does it cost?
  >>

used software if the straight forward approach.  practical computer here in
northern virginia normally has copies.  (i personally use 4.0 & have had no
problems.)  if you do not have a local solution, try e-mailing practical at:

      pcitech@erols.com

if memory serves, you are probably talking $10 or $15, including manuals and
original distribution disks, but i could be wrong.  i'm guessing you will
have to add postage.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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At 01:24 9/16/97 +0200, you wrote:
>A new version of LxPic is now available.
snip:
>You should now see only few LxPic messages like 'unsupported
>mode of operation'. But the most important enhancement is color
>reduction. JPEG true color pictures are now displayed in color
>in every color screen mode. The same applies for GIF in the 16
>color VGA mode. This makes LxPic more valuable on the desktop,
>where, as I know, you use it as well.
>
>I'm now prepared for a DOS based color VGA palmtop.
>Where is it?
Maybe we HPLX users, programmers and modifiers should design and build our
own!  Then we can quit waiting for HP......Just a thought.
Owen Samuelson  KU4ET
Macon, GA USA
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LOOK IN EDUCALC. I DID NOT GET THE CHEAPES ONE. HOPEFULLY THE SERIAL
INTERFACE SPARCOM IN CAT 72 WILL EVENTUALLY WORK WITH A EMBEDDED  MICRO
AND WITH A PC ALSO. JUST TAKES  TIME BUT THE PCMCIA CARM ACCURITE MODEL
WOULD TAKE A LOT LONGER TO INTERFACE THAT WAY.

73 SPENCE K4KEP

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> Where can I get the most inexpensive floppy drive for my HP200lx?
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Thanks to those kind souls at SUPER for putting calvin up! Now more
users can experience the power of this tiny vi-style editor...:

        http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html

BTW, while I'm plugging, wced is another great unix-style utility - it's
like DOSKEY, but with filename completion etc

Brendan

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What about using the graphics editor of your choice, saving as a PCX, and
then incorporating it in one of the built in applications using IPEX (I
think that was the name of the software which allows showing a PCX in the
database program).  Again a memory stretch, but I think this program
looked for specific text on the screen and then overlayed the image,
adaptable?  Make a 'note-taking' database?
Jay
"Very clever program for adding ICN or PCX graphics to the built-in PIM
applications. Uses a small TSR (1536 bytes) for fast graphic processing.
Very flexible image placement and display options. Freeware. "

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> Does anyone have any database info for shortwave listening?  Something
> that might list the various frequencies and times the BBC broadcasts in
> English, etc.
>

Not being into HAM radio I am not sure if this is what you are looking
for but there is a database on the Palmtop Database repository that has
scanner frequencies:
http://www.iinet.net.au/~muzza/hp_db.html

regards
Murray

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> >I'm now prepared for a DOS based color VGA palmtop.
> >Where is it?

> Maybe we HPLX users, programmers and modifiers should design and build
our
> own!  Then we can quit waiting for HP......Just a thought.
> Owen Samuelson  KU4ET
> Macon, GA USA

How much are you willing to pay, and how many units do you think you could
sell?

If price * quantity > $1,000,000, then I think its worth discussing - at
least for me. Of that, I'd like to get $100,000 up front for tooling,
development, prototypes, regulatory approvals, etc.

So, get a hundred people to plunk down their $1,000 each. Then wait 8
months or so and you'll get your wish (as long as its likely that another
900 would likely buy one of these).

Of course, you could pay your money in stages and have the option of
backing out and as investors, you could probably hold votes on the feature
set and determine the direction of development. Sort of like Linux but for
hardware.

I run projects like this for a living. Anyone want to be a venture
capitalist? :-)

rick

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> Date          Mon, 15 Sep 1997 12:05:51 -0700
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> From          "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
> Subject       Re: Vector based drawing?
> To            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> I'm the original poster and it seems I've mucked up describing what=
 I'm
> looking for....which was a basic text editor with rudimentary sketching
> capabilities so that I could use it in a class where the lecturer=
 draws
> alot of diagrams during the lectures.
>

I was using        e!
This a sharware runing on dos (one version is for windows)
It easy to use
and all the power you need is there.

Al

I can found it again if you need. (and email it)


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> Date          Mon, 15 Sep 1997 13:23:52 -0300
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> From          Martin Sebastian <marseb@GIGA.COM.AR>
> Subject       .LZH files
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>    The LHA program is the one, it'll decompress all kinds of lzh files.
>    It's a shareware, you cand find it anyware....
>

Sorry mate
LHA is a freeware.
Yes free!!

free and great (lha.exe can compress and decompress)
This is the raison I don't understand
people are usink pkzip

Regards
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
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On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Jay Gates wrote:

> What about using the graphics editor of your choice, saving as a PCX, and
> then incorporating it in one of the built in applications using IPEX (I
> think that was the name of the software which allows showing a PCX in the
> database program).  Again a memory stretch, but I think this program
> looked for specific text on the screen and then overlayed the image,
> adaptable?  Make a 'note-taking' database?

Too much trouble for simple note taking....I may as well be using a Pilot.

- Longden

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On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Al Kind wrote:

> > I'm the original poster and it seems I've mucked up describing what I'm
> > looking for....which was a basic text editor with rudimentary sketching
> > capabilities so that I could use it in a class where the lecturer draws
> > alot of diagrams during the lectures.
> >
>
> I was using        e!
> This a sharware runing on dos (one version is for windows)
> It easy to use
> and all the power you need is there.
>
> Al
>
> I can found it again if you need. (and email it)

I'd like a copy to look at. Email or point me to an FTP site...either
would be appreciated. Thanks.

- Longden  (lloo@world.northgrum.com)

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Hi

I got JAM on internet yesterday, and it is a great shareware program!
It can compress your C: drive, and makes it very well!

JAM can be found on

http://search.shareware.com/code/engine/File?archive=coast-msdos&file=archiver%2fjam125sw%2ezip&size=209649

that is on the shareware.com site as jam123sw.zip.

Celson Aquino
http://www.svn.com.br/celson

Lynn M. Cavendish wrote:
>
> In a message dated 97-09-14 21:52:51 EDT, you write:
>
> << 3) Where can you get Stacker and approx. how much does it cost?
>   >>
>
> used software if the straight forward approach.  practical computer here in
> northern virginia normally has copies.  (i personally use 4.0 & have had no
> problems.)  if you do not have a local solution, try e-mailing practical at:
>
>       pcitech@erols.com
>
> if memory serves, you are probably talking $10 or $15, including manuals and
> original distribution disks, but i could be wrong.  i'm guessing you will
> have to add postage.
>
> cordially,
>
> lynn m. cavendish
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> I was using        e!
> This a sharware runing on dos (one version is for windows)
> It easy to use
> and all the power you need is there.
>
> Al
>
> I can found it again if you need. (and email it)

Sounds like a good candidate for SUPER. Would you please send it to
Mitch? (mitch@palmtop.net)

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is there a digest form of this list? how do I subscribe?

danifer@BWAY.NET

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Subject:      QNX on 200LX:

Hi Julie;
   It doesn't appear that anyone really answered your original question
fully.  Hopefully I can help.
   For those that are curious, QNX is a unix-like OS with a very tight
and highly efficient kernel, designed to run on Intel-based systems.
It's a real-time multi-user, multi-tasking networking OS and is used
alot in data acquision and process control applications--manufacturing,
etc.  I've been a QNX2 programmer for quite some time.  QNX's real power
lies in its highly efficient kernel and its pier-to-pier networking
architecture, where one can create a virtual machine that's as big as
one wants--just by adding additional PCs to the network and distributing
the process load.  I used QNX 2.13 on a V20 machine with a bunch of
extra serial ports on it and, using old H89s as dumb terminals, had 8
users on that machine doing e-mail, simple word processing and
spreadsheets.  It's a very powerful OS, but a little pricey for a
single-user installation.  On a network, it makes DOS/Windows look like
a Model-T.
   QNX version 2 runs quite happily on an XT if you use the real mode
version of the OS; 2.15G or H.  I am not sure if version 2.2 will,
though--if I remember correctly--the only difference between 2.15 and
2.2 is the date stuff.  The date handling stuff under 2.15 wouldn't take
them beyond 1999 or something like that so they had to issue 2.2.  I
never installed 2.2, but 2.15 comes in a real mode version and a
protected mode version (which is actually version 3.15).
   Since that time they came out with version 4 which looks more like
unix.  They moved to the WATCOM compiler, moving away from their own
TRUE K&R C compiler (there was vertually NO differences between their
compiler and what K&R wrote in the original bible--it was wonderful!).
Since then I haven't kept track.
   But to answer your question,  even though the 200LX should
theoretically be able to run QNX (2.15 needs only a mono monitor to run,
no VGA is necessary, CGA is okay, to clarify another poster's point), I
am not sure that the 200LX could BOOT QNX.  It's a matter of the boot-up
sequence that the 200LX goes through.
   From my understanding (which is somewhat limited), the boot ROM in a
standard DOS machine--after going through the system checks--starts
loading the OS from a particular location on the "A" or "C" drive; a
location that's hard-coded in to the boot ROM.  On a standard DOS
machine, at that location will be found the DOS OS file, which gets
loaded, and which then, at some point, executes the shell COMMAND.COM.
QNX replaces these OS files, so the boot ROM loads them instead of the
DOS OS files.  In the 200LX, however, the "hidden OS files" are actually
in ROM, and can't be replaced by the QNX OS files.  If one could change
the "memory" address that the boot-up code in ROM points to when it
comes time to load the OS, to--perhaps--an address on the flash card,
one could do it.
   There were some earlier posts to the list--about 8 weeks ago or
so--that also had some info on running unix-like OSs on the palmtop; you
might want to dig through the archives.
   Good luck!  I hope I've answered your question.
   Martin

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Anyone know of a simple cheep Shell account I can sign up for?
I live in a small town in NW Iowa and all the providers can think of
is a PPP account with Netscape...=20
Kind of hard to get in with a LX  and a VT-100..
        Thanks   Dean

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Thanks Martin.  I too was wondering what QNX was.

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I would recommend Netcom IF I did not think they stunk like a pit toilet
in a public park.  I had a shell through them for two years.  _When_ it
was working, it was great.  When it was not, Netcom was the poster child
for stupid.  The account department could not understand the concept of
pre-payment, and they still haven't removed my account from the machine.
(it's going on a year now, and it's still there.)

Sorry, got carried away there...

Phil

>----------
>From:  Dean L[SMTP:Deanl@BIGFOOT.COM]
>Sent:  Tuesday, September 16, 1997 10:31 AM
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>
>Anyone know of a simple cheep Shell account I can sign up for?
>I live in a small town in NW Iowa and all the providers can think of
>is a PPP account with Netscape...
>Kind of hard to get in with a LX  and a VT-100..
>        Thanks   Dean
>

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Try concentric.net, they offer a shell account, you can telnet to
concentric.net for more info. I have used them in the past and they
probably have a local dial-up number in your area.

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**




On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Dean L wrote:

> Anyone know of a simple cheep Shell account I can sign up for?
> I live in a small town in NW Iowa and all the providers can think of
> is a PPP account with Netscape...
> Kind of hard to get in with a LX  and a VT-100..
>         Thanks   Dean
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On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:

> I would recommend Netcom IF I did not think they stunk like a pit toilet
> in a public park.  I had a shell through them for two years.  _When_ it
> was working, it was great.  When it was not, Netcom was the poster child
> for stupid.  The account department could not understand the concept of
> pre-payment, and they still haven't removed my account from the machine.
> (it's going on a year now, and it's still there.)
>
> Sorry, got carried away there...
>
> Phil

Understandable.  I had a netcom account when they were REALLY abd a year
or so ago.  Now I have an account with concentric.net.  Depending on how
much you're willing to prepay, it will be 17.90/mo to 19.90/mo.
http://www.concentric.net.  Shell accoun, 5MB storage, web page, news,
etc.

>
> >----------
> >From:  Dean L[SMTP:Deanl@BIGFOOT.COM]
> >Sent:  Tuesday, September 16, 1997 10:31 AM
> >To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> >Subject:       Shell account?
> >
> >Anyone know of a simple cheep Shell account I can sign up for?
> >I live in a small town in NW Iowa and all the providers can think of
> >is a PPP account with Netscape...
> >Kind of hard to get in with a LX  and a VT-100..
> >        Thanks   Dean
> >
>
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i've got an Omnibook 425 that I use as a companion to the 200LX I own.  I have
a batch file that backs up my C: drive nightly to my flash card, then I
occasionally copy the contents of the card to my Omnibook's C: drive.  The
whole setup works great, and my 200LX's phone and appt books migrate to the
omni flawlessly.


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****************
You Wrote:
i'm thinking of buying an omnibook 300 as support equipment for my 200lx.  it
seems like it would accomplish all the the interface challanges i have.
 flash card back-up would be very fast, by simply moving it over & backing it
up.

all the things which you can do with a doubleshot or a pcmcia parallel port
could be done.  besides, you get a bigger key board and a bigger screen,
whenevever you are using this particular piece of support gear.

of course it doesn't fit in a pocket, but then neither do all those other
things.  When ever i have my brief case close by (80% of the time), i will
have the added capability.  it's as easy to take along as any of that other
support equipment. maybe even a neater package.

any relevent experience?

thanx,

lynn m. cavendish

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Has anyone had any luck printing to a HP Laserjet 6P using the
infrared link. I've loaded the IRDA driver but can't seem to get it to
print. To make things worse, my colleague has managed it first time
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Any advice welcome

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The 1998 RadioShack catalog (free, this year) lists NiMH batteries and
chargers.  They offer the following sizes:

    AA  1.2V 1250 mAh $9.99 /2
    AAA 1.2V 550  mAh $9.99 /2
    9V  8.4V 130  mAh $10.99 ea

The cylidrical cells pictured are unlabeled, with a dull green
coating.  The "9V" is black, with a yellow RadioShack label.

This is the first retailer I can recall offering NiMH in AAA.  This
size is of particular interest to owners of the palmtop.net light.

They also offer a 1-hour (1.7 hours for NiMH) charger for $27.99 and
a 5-hour (7 hours for NiMH) charger for $16.99.  Both are compact, but
appear to be corded.

                                -Jim.

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<< From: Gavin Hui <gavin@INFORAMP.NET> >>

<<  Does it actually run at 33.6 on the HP? >>

I thought I said it in the post. Not at all! The max you can
get from 200LX is about 19200 - modem to computer, so that is
the limiting factor. Speed upgraded machines can do a little
better, but not reach 33.6. Some measurements in ideal
conditions showed as much as 30,000baud, but I am not 100%
convinced! <G>...

With the cell phone speed was below 10,000baud.

Sorry for replying so late - I am still sick and barely get
any work done.
  (: Avi M. :) [D&A]

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 <<From: Ian Melville <ianmel@OPUS.CO.TT> >>

 << Same here. The only difference is that I can *still* get
beta tapes to rent.. :-) >>

T&T must be one special place! :-)

  (: Avi M. :) [D&A]

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Igor:

<< > I use an Apex 33.6 - 138mAh draw. Works on some 6
phones... <

If it is not a secret, what money did you pay for this Apex
33.6? And where did you buy it? >>

I got it as a present, so no idea where and how much. I saw a
price posted in HPHAND forum in Compuserve, and someone said
$180 - but I do not recall exactly. Suggest you call Apex for
info.

Sorry I am so late on replies - I am still far from being my
normal self, and only work about 30% capacity now.

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Another bug in Database:

Someone mentioned the double line bug in the note field of a
database.

I encounter a nasty one: In a database, I created various
clips and use Menu - File - Print to print various records.
There is a way to specify the clip, which I do. Then when I
print, the printout is in pieces. Turns out the Number of
lines per page on the Setup screen form Menu File Print cannot
remember the settings after the file is closed and reopened.

Anyone met this bug? has a solution? (I know about macros to
reset the field!)

TIA
  (: Avi M. :) [D&A]

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Text of message from pthomson@NETCOMUK.CO.UK, 16 Sep 1997, 01:42 PM
> Has anyone had any luck printing to a HP Laserjet 6P using the
> infrared link. I've loaded the IRDA driver but can't seem to get it to
> print. To make things worse, my colleague has managed it first time
> with his Psion 3c.
>
> Any advice welcome

have you tried with any other IRdA printers?  Mine works fine with the 5p
and through a JetEye.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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Hello,

> LHA is a freeware.
> Yes free!!
>
> free and great (lha.exe can compress and decompress)
> This is the raison I don't understand
> people are usink pkzip

Take the watch and compare the work time of lha and pkzip. And you should
understand, why. ;-)

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I have used the IRDA drivers and they do work.  I used the following
lines in my Autoexec.bat.

@echo off
prompt $p$g
path=c:\_dat;d:\bin;c:\_sys;c:\;d:\dos;d:\;
assign e:=a:
lamptsr /L /i
comtsr /L
200

I think you also must set the printer to use the IR port in the Config
for the palmtop's PIM.  Hope this helps.
Phil

>----------
>From:  Peter Thomson[SMTP:pthomson@netcomuk.co.uk]
>Sent:  Tuesday, September 16, 1997 12:42 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       HP Laserjet 6P Printing
>
>Has anyone had any luck printing to a HP Laserjet 6P using the
>infrared link. I've loaded the IRDA driver but can't seem to get it to
>print. To make things worse, my colleague has managed it first time
>with his Psion 3c.
>
>Any advice welcome
>
>--
>Peter Thomson. Wrexham, UK
>pthomson@netcomuk.co.uk
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Perhaps it's because I'm getting tired of paying $4.50 for a set of
Lithiums, but are these capable of powering a 200LX with a 10 MB Flash
card (Ace Doubleflash)? I was under the impression that only Lithiums
would be satisfactory. Any idea how long they would last?

Thanks!

Larry


On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Jim Gonzalez wrote:

> The 1998 RadioShack catalog (free, this year) lists NiMH batteries and
> chargers.  They offer the following sizes:
>
>     AA  1.2V 1250 mAh $9.99 /2
>     AAA 1.2V 550  mAh $9.99 /2
>     9V  8.4V 130  mAh $10.99 ea
>
> The cylidrical cells pictured are unlabeled, with a dull green

<snip>

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I have been using NiMH 1000MA generics for a year with no problem.
Figure an external modem and a 16Meg card and re charge every five or
six days using ABC/LX to insure proper charging. I have not had problems

with NiMH. Of course I like the generics due to low price. I picked them
up last year at a Amateur Radio Ham Fest for $1.00 a piece. I would
like some of the AAA's for my pager but not at that price.

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Feldman [SMTP:lfeldman@VOICENET.COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 14:20
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: NiMH From RadioShack
>
> Perhaps it's because I'm getting tired of paying $4.50 for a set of
> Lithiums, but are these capable of powering a 200LX with a 10 MB Flash
> card (Ace Doubleflash)? I was under the impression that only Lithiums
> would be satisfactory. Any idea how long they would last?
>
>
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On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:

> I have been using NiMH 1000MA generics for a year with no problem.
> Figure an external modem and a 16Meg card and re charge every five or
> six days using ABC/LX to insure proper charging. I have not had problems

I use ABC/LX with the 1100mAh Panasonic NiCads and get less than five-six
days per charge...maybe we differ in usage, but how much "battery-time"
do you show before recharging? (I usually get about 3hrs "battery-time"
before the voltage drops to 2.37 or so and the low battery warning starts
to show.

Just wondering if this is normal or if I have a bad set of cells. Could
also be related to my flashdisk type (Kingston).

- Longden

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Does anyone have DERIVE 4.0 for DOS?

I have derive 4.0 for windows, and would like to trade for the DOS version.
 Must by 4.x.

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At 12:57 PM 9/16/97 -0700, you wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:
>
>> I have been using NiMH 1000MA generics for a year with no problem.
>> Figure an external modem and a 16Meg card and re charge every five or
>> six days using ABC/LX to insure proper charging. I have not had problems
>
>I use ABC/LX with the 1100mAh Panasonic NiCads and get less than five-six
>days per charge...maybe we differ in usage, but how much "battery-time"
>do you show before recharging? (I usually get about 3hrs "battery-time"
>before the voltage drops to 2.37 or so and the low battery warning starts
>to show.
>
>Just wondering if this is normal or if I have a bad set of cells. Could
>also be related to my flashdisk type (Kingston).
>
>- Longden
>
I've been using a set of VARTA 1100mah NiMH with a 10 meg card and heavy
Serial
port usage.  I plug into SUN Sparc stations for configuring and monitoring.
I'm presently 6.5 hours of usage with 2.62v of battery as reported by BUDDY.

What does ABC/LX do for you?

Mark Sailer
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The internal resistance of the NiMH cells is not the same as a standard
alkaline cell.  You may experience problems using NiMH cells in a pager.
 The pager, depending on the manufacturer may not actually fail or be
damaged, but you may have problems relating to receiver sensitivity.
(Motorola for one, actually includes the presence of the battery when
doing antenna design work.)

>----------
>From:  Souza, Mr Stephen[SMTP:ssouza@EXCHG.CNSL.SPEAR.NAVY.MIL]
>Sent:  Tuesday, September 16, 1997 2:32 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: NiMH From RadioShack
>
>I have been using NiMH 1000MA generics for a year with no problem.
>Figure an external modem and a 16Meg card and re charge every five or
>six days using ABC/LX to insure proper charging. I have not had problems
>
>with NiMH. Of course I like the generics due to low price. I picked them
>up last year at a Amateur Radio Ham Fest for $1.00 a piece. I would
>like some of the AAA's for my pager but not at that price.
>
>Stephen Souza
>mailto:ssouza@iname.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Larry Feldman [SMTP:lfeldman@VOICENET.COM]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 14:20
>> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>> Subject:      Re: NiMH From RadioShack
>>
>> Perhaps it's because I'm getting tired of paying $4.50 for a set of
>> Lithiums, but are these capable of powering a 200LX with a 10 MB Flash
>> card (Ace Doubleflash)? I was under the impression that only Lithiums
>> would be satisfactory. Any idea how long they would last?
>>
>>
>>
>
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On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Mark Sailer wrote:

> At 12:57 PM 9/16/97 -0700, you wrote:
> >On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:
> >
> >> I have been using NiMH 1000MA generics for a year with no problem.
> >> Figure an external modem and a 16Meg card and re charge every five or
> >> six days using ABC/LX to insure proper charging. I have not had problems
> >
> >I use ABC/LX with the 1100mAh Panasonic NiCads and get less than five-six
> >days per charge...maybe we differ in usage, but how much "battery-time"
> >do you show before recharging? (I usually get about 3hrs "battery-time"
> >before the voltage drops to 2.37 or so and the low battery warning starts
> >to show.
> >
> >Just wondering if this is normal or if I have a bad set of cells. Could
> >also be related to my flashdisk type (Kingston).
> >
> >- Longden
> >
> I've been using a set of VARTA 1100mah NiMH with a 10 meg card and heavy
> Serial
> port usage.  I plug into SUN Sparc stations for configuring and monitoring.
> I'm presently 6.5 hours of usage with 2.62v of battery as reported by BUDDY.
>
> What does ABC/LX do for you?

ABC/LX monitors the battery charge system. It tells you what the current
battery level is and can be set to automatically enable charging when the
level drops below a preset number. More importantly, it monitors the
voltage level during charging and stops (disables) the charging system
when a preset voltage is reached (to prevent overcharging).

In other words, I just leave my batteries in the case and just plug in the
charger in the evenings. The software takes care of whether(and when) to
turn charging on or off.

I'm not sure Buddy hours equate to ABC/LX hours. Maybe someone who's used
both can enlighten?

- Longden

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I have the following Accessories For Sale:

Palmtree Black Leather Case for HP100/200/95
measures 8 x 5.5 x 3/4
It has 13 pockets for PC Cards
A windowed pocket for Business Cards
A large zippered pocket to put the HP into, plus others.
Closes with a velcro'd strap
$33 shipped US Priority Mail

SMART FAX/Modem & Memory PC Card
Installs as com2
Modem: 2400 baud
FAX: 14.4k transmit
         9600 send
4 meg of memory
with box, manuals, drivers
$103 shipped US Priority Mail

2 meg Verbatim SRAM Card
Extra Battery
$63 shipped US Priority Mail

IntelliLink for Windows
Supports: ACT 1&2
Commence
DayTimer
ECCO 3.x ( not 4.x)
Lotus Organizer 1.x/2.x
PackRat 4.1/5.0
Schedule+ 1.0/7.0
SideKick
plus more

Manual and original disks
$33 shipped US Priority Mail


ACE Link
by ACE Technologies
File Transfer Program
$15 shipped US Priority Mail

Email Directly if interested.
Mark

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I've recently updated my web site, including a new editorial and a new
product review (33.6 PCMCIA modem).  If interested, visit the site!

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Marty wrote:

> I downloaded Mitch (KC8GJI) Hamm's 'Hambands' database off of the
> SUPER
> site.
>
> It's a really great listing of the ham bands with pictoral
> representation of the various bands.
>
> Does anyone have any database info for shortwave listening?  Something
>
> that might list the various frequencies and times the BBC broadcasts
> in
> English, etc.
>
> Any pointers would help.  Thanks.

Go and have a look at the BBC's site.

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>  <<From: Ian Melville <ianmel@OPUS.CO.TT> >>
>
>  << Same here. The only difference is that I can *still* get
> beta tapes to rent.. :-) >>
>
> T&T must be one special place! :-)

Avi, you must have been here before... <g>

Regards,
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Mark,

Im interested in the Modem/4mb Card combo. Have you tried this with the
WWW/LX or NetTamer for web access? Also how long do an LX's batteries last
with the modem in use?

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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> Date: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 3:57 PM
>
> I have the following Accessories For Sale:
>
> Palmtree Black Leather Case for HP100/200/95
> measures 8 x 5.5 x 3/4
> It has 13 pockets for PC Cards
> A windowed pocket for Business Cards
> A large zippered pocket to put the HP into, plus others.
> Closes with a velcro'd strap
> $33 shipped US Priority Mail
>
> SMART FAX/Modem & Memory PC Card
> Installs as com2
> Modem: 2400 baud
> FAX: 14.4k transmit
>          9600 send
> 4 meg of memory
> with box, manuals, drivers
> $103 shipped US Priority Mail
>
> 2 meg Verbatim SRAM Card
> Extra Battery
> $63 shipped US Priority Mail
>
> IntelliLink for Windows
> Supports: ACT 1&2
> Commence
> DayTimer
> ECCO 3.x ( not 4.x)
> Lotus Organizer 1.x/2.x
> PackRat 4.1/5.0
> Schedule+ 1.0/7.0
> SideKick
> plus more
>
> Manual and original disks
> $33 shipped US Priority Mail
>
>
> ACE Link
> by ACE Technologies
> File Transfer Program
> $15 shipped US Priority Mail
>
> Email Directly if interested.
> Mark
>
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> > It seems that Post/LX will require you to either have a portable mode=
m
> > with your palmtop, or a pcmcia modem with a memory upgraded palmtop =
(I
> > have a pcmcia modem, a flash card and no memory upgrade, which would =
seem
> > to make using that program impossible.   Any ideas or alternatives?
>
> These limitations that you outline do not apply exclusively to post/lx =
but
> rather to your use of any communications, internet or faxing applicatio=
ns.
> If you use a 1mb machine with a pc card modem in the slot you will run
> into problems regardless of which software you choose for any of the =
tasks
> I mentioned earlier.
>
> In order to take advantage of the internet, email, faxing etc. on your
> palmtop it will require the use of a modem and sufficient storage space=
 to
> be present *at the same time*. My suggestions are:
>
> 1- An external or pocket modem with a flashcard,
> 2- A combination memory/modem card,
> 3- A suitable pc card modem with a c: drive upgrade of 4 or 8Mb.

> 4- A 2 or 4mb factory unit with a suitable pc card or external modem.
>
> I see no other alternatives...

I am not sure you understood my message.  The alternative that I spoke =
of is to run a program, such as Nettamer, from the flash card in a destop=
 pc, so as to use the modem in the desktop pc, then after dowloading, swi=
tch the flash card to the palmtop, then continue reading messages through=
out the day.  That to me is the *BEST* solution of all.   It can be done =
with Nettamer, but Nettamer won't let me send e-mail out, so that's the =
only reason why I have not registered it.   I had a shell account in mich=
igan which I liked, but now I can only use POP3, so hence my post.

Domingo

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At 01:57 PM 9/16/97 -0700, you wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Mark Sailer wrote:
>
>> At 12:57 PM 9/16/97 -0700, you wrote:
>> >On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have been using NiMH 1000MA generics for a year with no problem.
>> >> Figure an external modem and a 16Meg card and re charge every five or
>> >> six days using ABC/LX to insure proper charging. I have not had problems
>> >
>> >I use ABC/LX with the 1100mAh Panasonic NiCads and get less than five-six
>> >days per charge...maybe we differ in usage, but how much "battery-time"
>> >do you show before recharging? (I usually get about 3hrs "battery-time"
>> >before the voltage drops to 2.37 or so and the low battery warning starts
>> >to show.
>> >
>> >Just wondering if this is normal or if I have a bad set of cells. Could
>> >also be related to my flashdisk type (Kingston).
>> >
>> >- Longden
>> >
>> I've been using a set of VARTA 1100mah NiMH with a 10 meg card and heavy
>> Serial
>> port usage.  I plug into SUN Sparc stations for configuring and monitoring.
>> I'm presently 6.5 hours of usage with 2.62v of battery as reported by
BUDDY.
>>
>> What does ABC/LX do for you?
>
>ABC/LX monitors the battery charge system. It tells you what the current
>battery level is and can be set to automatically enable charging when the
>level drops below a preset number. More importantly, it monitors the
>voltage level during charging and stops (disables) the charging system
>when a preset voltage is reached (to prevent overcharging).
>
>In other words, I just leave my batteries in the case and just plug in the
>charger in the evenings. The software takes care of whether(and when) to
>turn charging on or off.
>
>I'm not sure Buddy hours equate to ABC/LX hours. Maybe someone who's used
>both can enlighten?
>
>- Longden
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Hi folks-

Just thought I'd jump in with my $.02 worth about NiMH batteries. There
were several questions & comments about these.

        Will they work with the ACE DoubleFlash 10M card?  Yep, The
manual recommends NiCd, NiMH, and Lithium cells (in that order).

        Radio Shack's new 1 hr & 5 hr chargers: I haven't seen the 1=
 hr
model, but just bought the 5 hr one. It is corded, and about 5 1/4 x=

3 1/2 x 1 1/2 inches. Appears well made. It's switch selectable for
NiCd or NiMH, and has separate slots for AA, AAA, and 9V batteries
(with different charging currents for each size). Actual charging time
will vary from about 4 hrs to a little over 7 hrs depending on cell
type and capacity.

        How do Buddy hours match up with ABC/LX hours?  Identical on=
 my
100LX. Both show 7.20 hours. Voltage readings are slightly different
though. (2.43 on ABC/LX  -  2.42 on Buddy).

Haven't found the NiMH cells at either of the 2 RS stores I tried.

Another new RS item that might be of interest - a regulated, switching
type AC adapter with selectable 3, 4.5, 6, 9, and 12V output @ up to=
 1
amp. About the size and weight of the HP adapter. Bad news is the price
  -  $39.95

-PR
---------

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Larry Feldman wrote:
>
> Perhaps it's because I'm getting tired of paying $4.50 for a set of
> Lithiums, but are these capable of powering a 200LX with a 10 MB Flash
> card (Ace Doubleflash)? I was under the impression that only Lithiums
> would be satisfactory. Any idea how long they would last?
>
> Thanks!

Larry,
Why don't you go to some of the local one-hour photo places, and ask for
batteries. They have to legally dispose of them as toxic material and
the first place I asked gave me about fifty with no hesitation at all!
That was two months ago and I'm still using them!

Bob Aldrich
Los Angeles

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 16:38:45 -0400
From: Mark Sailer <msailer@ML.COM>
Subject: Re: NiMH From RadioShack

> I've been using a set of VARTA 1100mah NiMH with a 10 meg card and=
 heavy
> Serial
> port usage.  I plug into SUN Sparc stations for configuring and monitorin=
g.
> I'm presently 6.5 hours of usage with 2.62v of battery as reported=
 by BUDDY.

  Compared with the pair I have, that is impressive. Would appreciate
  anyone letting me know of any store in the Miami area that might carry
  these.

Best regards,




Jagdesh Maraj <joshuam@carib-link.net>

Trinidad, West Indies.

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 18:57:54 -0400
From: Ian Melville <ianmel@OPUS.CO.TT>
Subject: Re: Lx 200 market slow down? (long tirade)

>> T&T must be one special place! :-)

>  Avi, you must have been here before... <g>

   Could not have said it better Ian! Hope the others on the List don't
   think that all the HPs end up here!

Best regards,


Jagdesh Maraj <joshuam@carib-link.net>

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From: Jim Gonzalez <gonzalez@LADS.IS.LMCO.COM>
Subject:NiMH From RadioShack

>     AA  1.2V 1250 mAh $9.99 /2

> The cylidrical cells pictured are unlabeled, with a dull green
> coating.

  Sounds similiar to the pair I bought 3 months ago. Dull green colour=
 with
  a barely legible "Made in Hong Kong". The supplier I bought it from
  placed his own stick-on label and charged me US$15.00/pair (ouch!).

  The punch line is that I am *not* happy with the performance. I use=
 the
  HP very sparingly on battery, yet I have to recharge every two days!=
 I
  saw in a later post some very impressive stats on Varta. I guess this=
 would
  be a better buy.

Best regards,




Jagdesh Maraj <joshuam@carib-link.net>

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What site?

JR

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Try www.shier.com
They have a downloadable demo to install and play with!

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net

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> What site?
>
> JR
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On Tue, 16 Sep 1997 18:44:57  John Ramos <MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET> wrote:=


> What site?


ABC/LX is from D&A Software. It's commercial software, not share - or
free ware. Check their web page at:

        http://www.dasoft.com

I use this and it makes battery maintenance a breeze.

-PR
---------

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>I happen to have gotten to the contracted developers of the IrDA drivers,
>and I have
>obtained a new build; It appears they have been refining the drivers for
>quite some
>time, but HP just didn't put the updated drivers online. As it is, I will
>be proceeding to
>continue development on these drivers.
>
>I would like to know if there is any applications/addons that might be
>useful for this IrDA
>device. The company I am contracted by has made an IrDA module to plug
>DIRECTLY into any printer for direct printing, and it's pretty good with
>the new drivers. I
>am looking into any other apps that I might be able to suggest to them.
>
>And finally, does anyone want this driver? If so, I can post it to SUPER,
>if I know how to.

I never saw these posted to SUPER.  If you email them to me, I will be glad
to get them posted for you.

Have you looked into two way IrDA for the HP yet?

-David

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        I have used BCC, the prececessor to ABC/LX, and in conjunction with
Battlog, also on the SUPER site.

        I suppose I could have missed something elementary, but the charge
curve - voltage against time - did not look very similar with or without
BCC running. It looked to me, as judged from the voltage curve, that
without BCC running, the voltage rose faster and continued rising longer,
and the HP 200LX was usable for longer afterwards in consequence. If simply
running ABC/LX was causing significant power consumption - most noticeable
in TRICKLE mode, where the charging rate was more comparable to the power
usage rate, then simply discontinuing ABC/LX would improve your effective
battery life per charge, at the expense of giving you a much more worrisome
time about the hazards of overcharging, and possibly - given the occasional
mishap and consequent overcharge - reducing overall battery life in months.

        Of course, ABC/LX may indeed be much improved over BCC, and the
above may not apply, if it even applied to BCC.
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Date:         Tue, 16 Sep 1997 20:53:38 -0700
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Russel Brooks wrote:
>
> If anyone knows of a good Cribbage game that runs well on the 200LX
> please post some details.
>
> Thanks,
> Russ

What I've been using is a program called Crib-Master 1.1 which is for
DOS (dated 3-24-90).  I have no idea where I got it from, because I got
it so long ago.  I tried to find it on www.ftpsearch.com, but no luck.
The closing screen has the following author info:

Jeff Bangle
56 Indiantown Road
King George, VA  22485

All I have is the cribmast.exe file, but I'd be glad to send it to you.

-clark

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Can ABC/LX be used with "Buddy?"

JR


At 09:54 PM 9/16/97 -0400, you wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Sep 1997 18:44:57  John Ramos <MTX@SJ.BIGGER.NET> wrote:
>
>> What site?
>
>
>ABC/LX is from D&A Software. It's commercial software, not share - or
>free ware. Check their web page at:
>
>        http://www.dasoft.com
>
>I use this and it makes battery maintenance a breeze.
>
>-PR
>---------
>
>Peniel Romanelli   peniel@web2000.net   d021785c@dc.seflin.org
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>      "We have met the enemy, and he is us"       - Pogo
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On your desktop computer, sometimes you may want to paste something from a
Windows Program into a DOS program (like say the appointment book in the HP
connectivity
kit)  If you are running the connective kit under windows, you can
do it.

   To copy from a DOS program to the clipboard:

         1. Within a windows program, copy text to the windows Clipboard in
the usual way.

         2.  Make sure you are running the DOS program in a window.
              If you are not, press Ctrl-Enter to put it into a window.

         3.  Press Ctrl-Spacebar to bring up the Windows Control menu for
the DOS program.

         4.  Press  E P to paste text into the DOS program.  (E P is short
for Edit/Paste)


   You can also paste text from DOS to windows.  While in the Windows Control
    Menu for the DOS program, pick Edit/Mark.  Then use the mouse or
   shift-arrow keys to mark text.  Press Enter when done.

    Back in windows, you can paste the text with Ctrl-V

Hope you find this helpful.  I find it helps me integrate my DOS and
Windows programs.

Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!

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From: Ariel Rocholl Gullon on 09/17/97 09:15 AM


Maybe you can try PalDRAW, a specific application designed to run in HP
palmtops,
which support PCX, ICN and Vector drawing, It is very small (100kb on your
disk)
and very fast.

You can download it and see more information on:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ariel_rocholl/palmtop.htm

Regards,
Ariel Rocholl
aroch@geocities.com

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> Subject:      Re: NiMH From RadioShack
> On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:
>
>
> I use ABC/LX with the 1100mAh Panasonic NiCads and get less than five-six
> days per charge...maybe we differ in usage, but how much "battery-time"
> do you show before recharging? (I usually get about 3hrs "battery-time"
> before the voltage drops to 2.37 or so and the low battery warning starts
> to show.
>

I have 1100 mAh "GP" NiMH cells (never seen this mark before) and run
~15 hrs, with 40 Mb flashcard, as reported by battlog.  Batteries
run from ~2.54 down to 2.40 when I recharge on an external NiMH
charger.  I am quite happy with this as I had similar
experiences with NiCads before: ~3 hrs use.

Charles Stroom, Estec/YCV

charles@yc.estec.esa.nl
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JUST TALKED TO BRENT AT EDUCALC. THE 200LX-2 MEG IS A BIT SHORT IN SUPPY
FROM TIME TO TIME BUT HE SAYS THE 4 MEG MODEL IS EASY TO GET. CURRENTLY
569.

73 SPENCE K4KEP

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FOOIE....... TELL IT LIKE IT IS. THEY STILL DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT
CUSTOMER RELATIONS IS. THEY LIE AS BAD AS AOL..... THEY BOTH STILL SUCK.

73 SPENCE K4KEP

Phil Drummond wrote:
>
> I would recommend Netcom IF I did not think they stunk like a pit toilet
> in a public park.  I had a shell through them for two years.  _When_ it
> was working, it was great.  When it was not, Netcom was the poster child
> for stupid.  The account department could not understand the concept of
> pre-payment, and they still haven't removed my account from the machine.
> (it's going on a year now, and it's still there.)
>
> Sorry, got carried away there...
>
> Phil
>
> >----------
> >From:  Dean L[SMTP:Deanl@BIGFOOT.COM]
> >Sent:  Tuesday, September 16, 1997 10:31 AM
> >To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> >Subject:       Shell account?
> >
> >Anyone know of a simple cheep Shell account I can sign up for?
> >I live in a small town in NW Iowa and all the providers can think of
> >is a PPP account with Netscape...
> >Kind of hard to get in with a LX  and a VT-100..
> >        Thanks   Dean
> >
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>         Of course, ABC/LX may indeed be much improved over BCC, and =
the
> above may not apply, if it even applied to BCC.

They are hardly comparable. I should know because I wrote them both =
:-)

Andreas [D&A]

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> I'm not sure Buddy hours equate to ABC/LX hours. Maybe someone who's =
used
> both can enlighten?

Buddy and ABC/LX use a slightly different method to measure time, so
the displayed time usually differs a bit. However, the difference is
usually not that much. For me, it is about in the 5% range.

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> Can ABC/LX be used with "Buddy?"

Yes. They do not conflict.

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On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> > I'm not sure Buddy hours equate to ABC/LX hours. Maybe someone who's used
> > both can enlighten?
>
> Buddy and ABC/LX use a slightly different method to measure time, so
> the displayed time usually differs a bit. However, the difference is
> usually not that much. For me, it is about in the 5% range.

Thanks for confirming Peniel Romanelli's own observations on this.

- Longden

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On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Charles Stroom wrote:

> > I use ABC/LX with the 1100mAh Panasonic NiCads and get less than five-six
> > days per charge...maybe we differ in usage, but how much "battery-time"
> > do you show before recharging? (I usually get about 3hrs "battery-time"
> > before the voltage drops to 2.37 or so and the low battery warning starts
> > to show.
>
> I have 1100 mAh "GP" NiMH cells (never seen this mark before) and run
> ~15 hrs, with 40 Mb flashcard, as reported by battlog.  Batteries run
> from ~2.54 down to 2.40 when I recharge on an external NiMH charger.  I
> am quite happy with this as I had similar experiences with NiCads
> before: ~3 hrs use.

I'm the original poster and should have added that my LX is a 6mb,
double-speed model. That accounts for some of the low battery life (Mack
Baggette had estimated a 10-25% drop in battery life due to the speed
upgrade).

Guess I should hit the stores and look for the 1100-1200 mAh NiMH cells,
tho I don't want to recharge the cells out of the LX (convenience was one
of the reasons for going to rechargeables and ABC/LX). Anyone know if the
NiMH charge OK in the LX (and with ABC/LX)?

- Longden

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HP>On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Charles Stroom wrote:

HP>> > I use ABC/LX with the 1100mAh Panasonic NiCads and get less than five-si
HP>> > days per charge...maybe we differ in usage, but how much "battery-time"
HP>> > do you show before recharging? (I usually get about 3hrs "battery-time"
HP>> > before the voltage drops to 2.37 or so and the low battery warning start
HP>> > to show.
HP>>
HP>> I have 1100 mAh "GP" NiMH cells (never seen this mark before) and run
HP>> ~15 hrs, with 40 Mb flashcard, as reported by battlog.  Batteries run
HP>> from ~2.54 down to 2.40 when I recharge on an external NiMH charger.  I
HP>> am quite happy with this as I had similar experiences with NiCads
HP>> before: ~3 hrs use.

HP>I'm the original poster and should have added that my LX is a 6mb,
HP>double-speed model. That accounts for some of the low battery life (Mack
HP>Baggette had estimated a 10-25% drop in battery life due to the speed
HP>upgrade).

HP>Guess I should hit the stores and look for the 1100-1200 mAh NiMH cells,
HP>tho I don't want to recharge the cells out of the LX (convenience was one
HP>of the reasons for going to rechargeables and ABC/LX). Anyone know if the
HP>NiMH charge OK in the LX (and with ABC/LX)?

   yes, they charge ok, i have the 1250 MAh NIMH cells with abc/lx
(demo), installed, and it charges  the batteries in about 12 hours, with
no problem, remember that the nimh batteries have 1.2 v, so don't try to
config it (abc) to reach 3.0, because it will never be reached, config
abc to reach 2.85, and they will be full.



HP>- Longden


    martin
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Does anyone know where I can get Software Carousel for the HP 200 LX? What
does it cost?

TIA

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I have a Hayes Optima 144 Pocket Edition Smartmodem I bought for my wife's
Pilot. It is for a Mac, but is new, in the sealed box. Hayes has a PC cable
available, or make your own. Uses 4 AA batteries and includes AC adaptor.

My wife says she wants the regular Pilot modem instead so I am wondering if
anyone wants the Pocket modem. The Pilot modem is on the web for $99 plus
shipping so that's what I'm looking for.

Thanks,
Mike Kilpatrick

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Has anyone had experience with adding IR capabilities to their desktop
machine, for cable-less connection with the 200LX?

I tried a Belken RED EYE, which sort of worked, at 9,600.  Even at that low
speed (with a cable I can run at 57,600), it was unreliable.  It would lose
contact in the middle of longer files.  It was too slow & unreliable to be
of use.
I saw ads for a "litelink" from Parallax Research in ancient copies of the
Palmtop Paper.  Has anyone used this product?  Did it work (how well)?

Thanks for any help.

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Hi folks-

Back with more about ABC/LX and Buddy timers. I had originally written
that they gave IDENTICAL readings. Not quite. After several checks of
both, they're very close but not identical. Also, Buddy reports decimal
hours, and ABC/LX uses hours:minutes format. The difference on my
machine is less than 1%.  "Close enough for government work..."

-PR
---------



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On Tue, 16 Sep 1997 13:28:12 -0500, Phil Drummond
<phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM> wrotc:

>I have used the IRDA drivers and they do work.  I used the following
>lines in my Autoexec.bat.
>
[..]

Thanks. After a day of tinkering I've finally got it working, but only
if I boot from the C:\ drive. Either there's something in my autoexec
that is causing the problem, ot it's my Doubleflash card.

At least I'm getting there though.

Pete
Peter Thomson, Wrexham, UK
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From:         Charles Stroom <charles@YC.ESTEC.ESA.NL>
Subject:      Re: NiMH From RadioShack
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> Subject:      Re: NiMH From RadioShack
> On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Charles Stroom wrote:
>
> >
> > I have 1100 mAh "GP" NiMH cells (never seen this mark before) and run
> > ~15 hrs, with 40 Mb flashcard, as reported by battlog.  Batteries run
> > from ~2.54 down to 2.40 when I recharge on an external NiMH charger.  I
> > am quite happy with this as I had similar experiences with NiCads
> > before: ~3 hrs use.
>
> I'm the original poster and should have added that my LX is a 6mb,
> double-speed model. That accounts for some of the low battery life (Mack
> Baggette had estimated a 10-25% drop in battery life due to the speed
> upgrade).

Forgot to mention: mine is a hp200lx, with Techram upgrade to 5 Mb +
Techspeed upgrade, stil ~ 15 hrs.

Cheers,
>

Charles Stroom, Estec/YCV

charles@yc.estec.esa.nl
European Space Technology Centre, Noordwijk, the Netherlands
Phone: (+31)-71-565.4014 Fax: (+31)-71-565.6142

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Date:         Wed, 17 Sep 1997 18:05:44 EDT
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Text of message from dspenner@PCS.MB.CA, 17 Sep 1997, 03:23 PM
> Has anyone had experience with adding IR capabilities to their desktop
> machine, for cable-less connection with the 200LX?
>

I tried with a JetEye but found it too unreliable (it did not work with
certain programs) and not worth it.  I finally bought a docking station
which is fool-proof, speedy, and wonderful.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
  ___/    Center for Clinical Computing
 (__      Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr / Harvard Medical School
 ___)     V:(617)667-0010 F:(617)667-1002 clinquery.bidmc.harvard.edu

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At 06:05 PM 9/17/97 EDT, you wrote:
>Text of message from dspenner@PCS.MB.CA, 17 Sep 1997, 03:23 PM
>> Has anyone had experience with adding IR capabilities to their desktop
>> machine, for cable-less connection with the 200LX?
>>
>
>I tried with a JetEye but found it too unreliable (it did not work with
>certain programs) and not worth it.  I finally bought a docking station
>which is fool-proof, speedy, and wonderful.
>
>- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
>  ___/    Center for Clinical Computing
> (__      Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr / Harvard Medical School
> ___)     V:(617)667-0010 F:(617)667-1002 clinquery.bidmc.harvard.edu

What docking station did you get?

Mark

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Text of message from msailer@ML.COM, 17 Sep 1997, 06:14 PM
> At 06:05 PM 9/17/97 EDT, you wrote:
> >Text of message from dspenner@PCS.MB.CA, 17 Sep 1997, 03:23 PM
> >> Has anyone had experience with adding IR capabilities to their
> >> desktop machine, for cable-less connection with the 200LX?
> >>
> >
> >I tried with a JetEye but found it too unreliable (it did not work with
> >certain programs) and not worth it.  I finally bought a docking station
> >which is fool-proof, speedy, and wonderful.
> >
> >- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
> >  ___/    Center for Clinical Computing
> > (__      Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr / Harvard Medical School
> > ___)     V:(617)667-0010 F:(617)667-1002 clinquery.bidmc.harvard.edu
>
> What docking station did you get?
>
> Mark

SmartDock.

- Danny

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  I suspect all are aware of this, but you don't have to have a 'special'
NiMH charger to charge them.  You just need to figure out (read) the
mAmps that your current (no pun intended) charger generates and calculate
the time for the NiMH's storage capacity (again, recommended charging
rates are often included with the battery).
  That sounds more complex than I hoped, but you can use any charger!

(the RS charger takes 7 rather than 5 hours because the NiMH have a higher
capacity than NiCd's...)

Also: if the 1 hour charger doesn't automatically shut off or switch to
tricke charge, watch out! (I'm sure it does...)

PS: I just started keeping track of battery longevity with a
spreadsheet.  If anyone would like to contribute to this 'database' you
could e-mail me the
1) battery type, cost,and brand name (NiCd, NiMH, Alkaline, Carbon, etc...)
2) The voltage on first insertion (by BattLog, please for all readings)
3) The number of minutes until 2.6 volts is reached (for alkaline or carbon)
  or- The # mins till 2.2V reached for NiCd and NiMH
4) The number of minutes until 2.10 volts is reached (or when you take it
out)
That's it; obviously, charging isn't allowed, but adapter use is ok.
 Also obviously, I have too much time on my hands. I'll post it when I
have about 10 'runs' in a given category.

     G A T E S 9 9 @ M E D C O R . M C G I L L . C A
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Is buddy and ABC/LX compatible? Can they be used at the same time?

JR


At 03:02 PM 9/17/97 +0200, you wrote:
>> I'm not sure Buddy hours equate to ABC/LX hours. Maybe someone who's used
>> both can enlighten?
>
>Buddy and ABC/LX use a slightly different method to measure time, so
>the displayed time usually differs a bit. However, the difference is
>usually not that much. For me, it is about in the 5% range.
>
>Andreas [D&A]
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> > It seems that
> > Post/LX will require you to either have a portable modem with your =
palmto
> > p, or a pcmcia modem with a memory upgraded palmtop (I have a pcmcia =
mode
> > m, a flash card and no memory upgrade, which would seem to make using=
 tha
> > t program impossible.
>
> Why would it seem to make that impossible? There are many people doing
> it. You need a 2 meg machine though. On a 1 meg machine, it gets too
> dense.
> Andreas [D&A]

With all the programs I run on my palmtop, even 2megs is not enough, judg=
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e I heard, Post/LX seems rather high for a program I never tried, hence =
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>Of course, ABC/LX may indeed be much improved over BCC, and
the
>above may not apply, if it even applied to BCC.

>>They are hardly comparable. I should know because I wrote
them both :-)

I am using BCC and never thought it much different from
ABC/LX. How do they differ? Cos' I'm only getting about 4 hrs
from 1100 NiMH? I have a 5MB double speed 200LX and 20MB card.
Would ABC/LX improve on this with same usage pattern?

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I have a 1 meg HP200LX which I've owned for 3 years now.  I bought it for
$530.00 new and consider that some of the best money I've ever spent.  As
with a lot of you, I take it everywhere.  Is it just me, or does anyone
else think HP is dragging their feet releasing an upgrade (DOS based) to
the 200LX?  I want a newer faster processor, more memory, at least 16
levels of gray scale display (256 color would be nice but I'll give a
little), 2 type II PCMCIA slots, figure out a way to squeeze in 4 AA
batteries at 3V to give 2x current for longer runtime between charging.
There's more...boy, I sure want a lot.
I'm trying to decide whether to wait a little longer OR get the speed and
memory upgrade for my good old friend.  Well, HP what will it be.  If
theres no new DOS palmtop comming, just tell me.  I promise I won't jump of
the next bridge with my 200LX in hand.
I know this stuff has been discussed before, but I had to blow of some steam.

Have a good one,
Owen

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Ditto!!!  :-)

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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Has anyone used Notebook Supply Warehouse (NSW) for 200 LX upgrades. Any
comments?

TIA

Karl

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Does anyone have a utlity the will change the cursor from the little
underline type to either a block or preferably a blinking block in DOS?
I've tried server from Simtel but can't find one that works well with the
CGA display on the 200LX. Thanks in advance!

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net

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This is not the first reference I've seen to docking stations. Could you or
someone else provide a description? Where can i get one? How much do they
cost? Thanks...

At 06:05 PM 17/9/97 EDT, you wrote:
>I tried with a JetEye but found it too unreliable (it did not work with
>certain programs) and not worth it.  I finally bought a docking station
>which is fool-proof, speedy, and wonderful.
>
>- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
>  ___/    Center for Clinical Computing
> (__      Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr / Harvard Medical School
> ___)     V:(617)667-0010 F:(617)667-1002 clinquery.bidmc.harvard.edu
>
>
_____
Gavin Hui                      "Shared despair is squared;
gavin@inforamp.net    shared hope is cubed (or better)."
Mississauga, ON                               -Lady Sally McGee
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If anyone is interested I've found a checkers game that runs great on the
200LX. In fact, I have yet to beat it :) It's got a CGA mode that looks
really nice. It is fully functional but is shareware with some "nag"
screens when you quit the program. If anyone wants a copy, just drop me a
line.

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net

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Text of message from gavin@INFORAMP.NET, 17 Sep 1997, 10:26 PM
> This is not the first reference I've seen to docking stations. Could you
> or someone else provide a description? Where can i get one? How much do
> they cost? Thanks...

I found out about it from someone on this list.  I seem to recall it was
Al Kind.  What say you?

I'm not in my office.  If sobody answers by the time I'm there sometime
tomorrow, I can answer.

- Danny

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I bought my 6 meg HP200LX from NSW in Feb'97 and have had no problems,
with good support for the questions I've called about.

David

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There is one called Station 100 which can be seen at

http://www.sparcom.com/davinci/st100.htm

I know nothing more about it than what is on the web page
and in the article about the vet that uses one (in the HP
Palmtop Paper Volume 6 Number 3).  I'd also be interested
in more information about SmartDock (sp?).
John Stafford -- http:/www2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.htm --
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You know, I've had the line about a 200 programmer's group coming soon
for the past 5 billion years and haven't done a thing about it.  It may =
look like
I'm an irresponsible little ____ who can't do a derned thing without bein=
g
asked constantly, and believe me, it's true, but that ain't what ....

Forgot what I was going to say.

. . . ah.  What I mean is that I've finally gotten into the monospaced =
stapled
notebooked scheduled school mode after a couple of weeks of actually
attending it and I think I can manage my time a little better.  During =
the
summer my family would take spontaneous road trips, leaving me with only
my trusty 200.  You _can_ author Web pages on a palmtop, but it is a roya=
l
pain in the butt.  Anyways, look for that programmer's group in about two
or three weeks.  I've almost finished writing the HTML code, and I made =

this cool banner with XPaint.

I suppose I should close now.  Shore beats me how we're gonna do some of =
the
stuff I and some other people have come up with, but I'll stick the ideas=
 on
the page anyway.  PLEASE, if you have a "killer app" idea, or just someth=
ing
that would be really cool, SEND IT TO ME.  Private email, please, my
address is ianrb@caspers.net.  Current apps are a free Internet suite and
something else I can't remember.

(The internet suite is going to be UNREAL if we use LXPic 5 and pppd, btw=
!)

Bye.

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

"P.S.  People like you ought to be shot." -- Myself

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> of the reasons for going to rechargeables and ABC/LX). Anyone know =
if the
> NiMH charge OK in the LX (and with ABC/LX)?

It is not officially supported by HP (neither is the speed upgrade =
;-)
but I do charge NiMHs in the palmtop for more than 2 years, and so =
do
many other people. I never heard of any damage caused by that.

Andreas [D&A]

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Hi Richard,

Here's an novel idea for a show segment:  show how an older computer
is vastly superior to a newer models.  The older computer isn't getting
any attention from the usual computer mags; apparently  they have to
constantly
hock new products.  This older, yet superior computer isn't usually
available on store
shelves but you get it the next day by mail order.

What am I talking about?  The HP 200LX -- a *real* computer
that you can run hundreds, maybe thousands of programs on.
Many people who had a 200LX tried to upgrade to an HP 320 LX, but
they were so disappointed they returned the 320 and went back to
their 200Lx.  They decided to "upgrade to from WINCE to DOS."

The 200LX  is vastly super because:

        * You can do software development on it.  (You can't on a WINCE
palmtop.)
            You can use languages like:

                   C
                   Turbo PROLOG  (a fifth generation language for
developing smart applications)
                   PASCAL
                   FOXPRO
                   dBASE
                    AWK
                    LISP

        * You can run many unique applications not available on WINCE's:

                With a HP 200LX any time, any place, you can:

                    Create your own customized data entry system using
FoxPro or other database languages.
                    Use the existing built-in database by tapping a hotkey.
                    Record notes and find them later almost instantly with
a few keystrokes.
                    Learn Japanese (Japanese writing: hiragana and katakana
-- or basic vocabulary)
                    Do multililngual word processing in Arabic, Fars,
Gaelic, Greek, Spanish, French, Italizan, German, Danish etc.
                    Print labels using Seiko Instruments Smart Label Plus
                    Train yourself to identify all the fundamental musical
intervals.
                    Read books in a convenient narrow column by turning the
HP sideways and running a Vertical Reader program.
                    Do global searches for information.
                    Control MIDI instruments.
                    Automate downloading of information from electronic
scales.
                    Develop your own self-study tutorials.
                         and on and on, most DOS programs can be run on the
HP 200LX.
                    Do project management
                    Learn inside secrets of credit repair.
                    Manage credit card payments so you owe zilch (Using Zilch)
                    See an inspirational thought everyday.
                    Lookup zipcodes.
                    Study the Bible or the Koran.
                    Track church membership.
                    Choose from 3,500 cooking recipes.
                    Analyze your personality
                    Learn Origami (ancient art of paper folding)
                    Check your biorhythm.
                    Organize your family tree.
                    Look up the full definition of a word (not just its
spellling)
                    Learn Algebra
                    Get ready for calculus.
                    Check your English grammar.
                    Learn to touch type [HP200 LX can be connected to a
special Newton keyboard for touch typing!]
                    Edit text files using a hypertext editor than can
easily jump from file to file by tapping a hotkey.
                    Create software agents that can help programs work
together in new ways  using EasyShare --
                       a DOS sofware agent system.  EasyShare can watch the
screen for key words,
                       issue keystrokes, read and write files, make
decisions, control other programs or be activated
                       from other programs.  Nothing like this is available
with a WINCE machine.

                      and on and on...

                                No DOS program can be run on a WINCE!  Very
little softtware is available for WINCEs.
                                 If you look very hard, you might be able
to find *some* shareware.


        *   You can run a full blown built-in to ROM spreadsheet program
(Lotus 1-2-3) not a stripped down version
              of Excel that is missing a lot of functionality.

        NOTE:  For many purposes DOS programs are actually more appropriate
than Windows Programs.
        Windows has been pushed on consumers because it forces them to buy
bigger more
        expensive machines.  DOS can be much faster, easier to develop and
more reliable.
        Of course, for some purposes Windows is much superior--for art and
music.  But
        for many everyday business tasks, it simply is not needed.

       * You can jump into built-in applications by tapping special
hardware buttons.

       *  You can communicate with a large base of highly technical users
and developers over the internet.

                 To join the email discussion group, send email to
                 to LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU   In the body of the email put
                 "SUBSCRIBE HPLX-L"

                 [ HP200LX users seem to be more technical than the WINCE
users.]

       *  The batteries last much longer on an HP 200LX than on a WINCE.

A special Newton Keyboard is available from Shier Systems (Phone:
805-371-9391)

* Note:  many of the progams listed above are available from Software Labs
(800-569-7900) for about $3.95 each.  Many others
are available on the internet and can be downloaded for free.
I am not affiliated with Software Labs, Shier Systems or HP.  Just a
satisfied customer.

Thanks for reading this.  I'm sure your viewers will benefit from knowing
about the HP 200LX.
I'm looking forward to seeing it on your show.


Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!

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While we're at it,
http://www.walsintech.com/nimh.htm
has some interesting flavors of NiMH batteries...
They have the regular AA, 1200mAh, and they're working on some 1400mAh.

BUT: They also have something called a 4/5A battery which carries a
whopping 1800mAh.  'Trouble' is that it is 6mm SHORTER and 2.7mm WIDER
than a generic AA.

However, having looked at the page of the fellow who recently <placed>
his 200LX in a sink full of H2O for 300 seconds, I believe it would be an
easy modification to the current battery compartment; it looks like
there's that kind of room (really, you <might> be able to just shove
2.7mm!), and the length thing could be compensated for by the springs
(and a bit of stretching).

I'm waiting on a price for them at this time. (Oh, and they're working on
a 2000mAh version!).

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From: Ariel Rocholl Gullon on 09/18/97 09:09 AM




>>I tried PalDraw way back when it was introduced and it struck me as more
of a CAD package than a word processor. Sorry if the subject heading was
misleading....yes I want a simple vector line drawing function (to
conserve disk space on the drawings), but I want it mostly to function as
an adjunct to a text editor.<<

>>In your opinion, is PalDraw something to use in a classroom for lecture
notes when the mix is about 80% text and 20% line drawings?<<

No, I don't think so because the text capabilities of PalDRAW are limited
in comparison with a word processor.

>>Thanks for your input....as a CAD programmer myself (mainframe), I was
impressed with PalDraw when I first saw it...tho I didn't have a need for
it on my LX. Keep up the good work!<<

Thanks,
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I posted my latest build of the drivers to you to put on the site, but I cannot see them
there till this day. What is happening?

FYI, the drivers are developed by Parallex Technologies, and I am doing part of the
dev now, but due to HP screwups (yeah, they stink with old support) and our constant
posting of the new builds to them and REQUESTING for them to put it on the hp site,
with NO reply, I have sent the new build (with no date adjustment, but bigger exec and
dat file) to mitch. I hope the file can spread fast enough so I can eliminate any possible
errors ASAP. Thanks.
... "Luke!  I'm your father!"  Bill Gates, 1980

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Text of message from gavin@INFORAMP.NET, 17 Sep 1997, 10:26 PM
> This is not the first reference I've seen to docking stations. Could you
> or someone else provide a description? Where can i get one? How much do
> they cost? Thanks...

Okay:

SmartDock for 100LX/200LX
Sparcom Corp
PO Box 927
Corvallis, OR 97330
USA

(503) 757-8416
support@sparcom.com

It was a bit more than I'd imagined but worth it in the end.  (somewhere
between $70-90?)

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Text of message from johnws@IX.NETCOM.COM, 18 Sep 1997, 12:12 AM
> There is one called Station 100 which can be seen at
>
> http://www.sparcom.com/davinci/st100.htm
>

That's the SmartDock to which I referred.

- Danny

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> Does anyone have a utlity the will change the cursor from the little
> underline type to either a block or preferably a blinking block in DOS?
> I've tried server from Simtel but can't find one that works well with the
> CGA display on the 200LX. Thanks in advance!

Hi Jeff,

I got one TSR which runs on HPLX and Desktops.  I've mentioned it
a few days ago in a thread discussing the Calvin (vi) editor.

I'll mail it to you if you just drop me a line.  Well, I'm asking
myself if it should be put on the SUPER-site?

regards
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I checked out the site and it has a version of RISK
for the HP200 or dos systems. Who says you need
windows for newer games.

http://www.evt.bme.hu/~gergo/100lx/risk.htm

Stephen Souza
LAN Administration
757-322-3204
mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff [SMTP:jeffj@SCOTT.NET]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 22:44
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Checkers Game
>
> If anyone is interested I've found a checkers game that runs great on
> the
> 200LX. In fact, I have yet to beat it :) It's got a CGA mode that
> looks
> really nice. It is fully functional but is shareware with some "nag"
> screens when you quit the program. If anyone wants a copy, just drop
> me a
> line.
>
> 73 de KF4KGQ
> Jeff Johns
> jeffj@scott.net
>
>     **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC
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Ok, I know this is the HP200 list but just for information I found a web
listing
for a pocket computer that is a 386/25SX with 16 gray levels and 2 meg
of ram
expandable to 4 meg. It has 2 card slots and has dos 5 in ROM along with

MS works. It uses 4 AA's, and has both serial and parallel ports.
It is called Prolinear PS-3000. the size listed 9.5" (W) x 4.5" (L) x
1.25" (H)

Stephen Souza
mailto:ssouza@iname.com


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> From: Owen Samuelson [SMTP:owensam@HOM.NET]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 22:05
> To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Give me an upgrade or give me death!(not)
>
> I have a 1 meg HP200LX which I've owned for 3 years now.  I bought it
> for
> $530.00 new and consider that some of the best money I've ever spent.
> As
> with a lot of you, I take it everywhere.  Is it just me, or does
> anyone
> else think HP is dragging their feet releasing an upgrade (DOS based)
> to
> the 200LX?  I want a newer faster processor, more memory, at least 16
> levels of gray scale display (256 color would be nice but I'll give a
> little), 2 type II PCMCIA slots, figure out a way to squeeze in 4 AA
> batteries at 3V to give 2x current for longer runtime between
> charging.
> There's more...boy, I sure want a lot.
> I'm trying to decide whether to wait a little longer OR get the speed
> and
> memory upgrade for my good old friend.  Well, HP what will it be.  If
> theres no new DOS palmtop comming, just tell me.  I promise I won't
> jump of
> the next bridge with my 200LX in hand.
> I know this stuff has been discussed before, but I had to blow of some
> steam.
>
> Have a good one,
> Owen
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Oh, HP, you're missing it...

> for a pocket computer that is a 386/25SX with 16 gray levels and 2 meg

> It is called Prolinear PS-3000. the size listed 9.5" (W) x 4.5" (L) x
> 1.25" (H)
Did the web listing mention the weight?

You know, I don't think I'd upgrade except to something at least 10 times
faster - say, like the 120(?)Mhz RISC CPU in the Newton Message Pad 2000.
Though I won't buy the MP2000... There's a 200Mhz version of this chip
with tiny power consumption.

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> Oh, HP, you're missing it...
>
> > for a pocket computer that is a 386/25SX with 16 gray levels and 2
> meg
>
> > It is called Prolinear PS-3000. the size listed 9.5" (W) x 4.5" (L)
> x
> > 1.25" (H)
> Did the web listing mention the weight?
>
        [Souza, Mr. Stephen]   about 19 oz.

> You know, I don't think I'd upgrade except to something at least 10
> times
> faster - say, like the 120(?)Mhz RISC CPU in the Newton Message Pad
> 2000.
> Though I won't buy the MP2000... There's a 200Mhz version of this chip
> with tiny power consumption.
>
>

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Try www.prolinear.com -  they say it weighs 19 oz.

Why would anyone would have chosen Micrisoft Works?

Seems like a terrific waste of ROM.

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On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Jay Gates wrote:

> PS: I just started keeping track of battery longevity with a
> spreadsheet.  If anyone would like to contribute to this 'database' you
> could e-mail me the
> 1) battery type, cost,and brand name (NiCd, NiMH, Alkaline, Carbon, etc...)
> 2) The voltage on first insertion (by BattLog, please for all readings)
> 3) The number of minutes until 2.6 volts is reached (for alkaline or carbon)
>   or- The # mins till 2.2V reached for NiCd and NiMH
                        ^^^^

> 4) The number of minutes until 2.10 volts is reached (or when you take it
> out)
> That's it; obviously, charging isn't allowed, but adapter use is ok.
>  Also obviously, I have too much time on my hands. I'll post it when I
> have about 10 'runs' in a given category.

I assume the voltages mentioned above are from Battlog. It must differ
significantly from ABC/LX cuz I use NiCds and start getting "low battery"
warnings at around 2.35v.

Just wondered if anyone here knew the conversion from ABC/LX to Battlog,
since we've already heard that ABC/LX and Buddy were close.

- Longden

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On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:

> Ok, I know this is the HP200 list but just for information I found a web
> listing for a pocket computer that is a 386/25SX with 16 gray levels and
> 2 meg of ram expandable to 4 meg. It has 2 card slots and has dos 5 in
> ROM along with MS works. It uses 4 AA's, and has both serial and
> parallel ports.  It is called Prolinear PS-3000. the size listed 9.5"
> (W) x 4.5" (L) x 1.25" (H)

I know this will fit the bill for some people but for me, given the size
and weight change, it falls under "creeping expansionism".

Still, I probably wouldn't pass it up at a computer swap meet<g>.

- Longden

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On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Owen Samuelson wrote:

> I'm trying to decide whether to wait a little longer OR get the speed
> and memory upgrade for my good old friend.  Well, HP what will it be.
> If theres no new DOS palmtop comming, just tell me.  I promise I won't
> jump of the next bridge with my 200LX in hand.  I know this stuff has
> been discussed before, but I had to blow of some steam.

I think Brendan's already summed it up earlier. Our LX is the product of
an alien culture that was left behind long ago, only to resurface at some
gypsy curio shop.

Upgrades are forthcoming with the aliens' return (although they may
confiscate all LX's to prevent interfering with our planet's normal
development .... WinCE <g>)

I'm enjoying my LX immensely after 2 years (warts and all), but I don't
see anything that grabs my eye in the horizon. If not aliens, the people
would put this baby together must have been an inspired bunch, and I would
expect the same kind of inspiration will give us something that's a
quantum leap over most of what's out there today (LX included)...hope it
happens before my LX bites the dust.

- Longden

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On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, John Stafford wrote:

> There is one called Station 100 which can be seen at
>
> http://www.sparcom.com/davinci/st100.htm
>
> I know nothing more about it than what is on the web page
> and in the article about the vet that uses one (in the HP
> Palmtop Paper Volume 6 Number 3).  I'd also be interested
> in more information about SmartDock (sp?).

It's listed in the 1997 Educalc catalog (#74) and on their website:
        http://www.educalc.com/products/hp200lxa.htm#connec

FYI, Educalc also carries the Prolinear MiniNote that Stephen Souza
mentioned earlier (386sx, runs on 4AAs, 9.5x4.5x1.25")...it's also in
their catalog....probably also on their website.

- Longden

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>Oh, HP, you're missing it...
>
>> for a pocket computer that is a 386/25SX with 16 gray levels and 2 meg
>
>> It is called Prolinear PS-3000. the size listed 9.5" (W) x 4.5" (L) x
>> 1.25" (H)
>Did the web listing mention the weight?

weight = 1.4 lbs with batteries. Wonder if it can use nicads and charge
them internally though?
Check out http://www.prolinear.com/palmbk/palmbk.htm
Owen

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On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Andreas Garzotto wrote:

> > of the reasons for going to rechargeables and ABC/LX). Anyone know if the
> > NiMH charge OK in the LX (and with ABC/LX)?
>
> It is not officially supported by HP (neither is the speed upgrade ;-)
> but I do charge NiMHs in the palmtop for more than 2 years, and so do
> many other people. I never heard of any damage caused by that.

How many hours (ABC/LX...or course<g>) do you get off the NiMH? Is your LX
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> I am using BCC and never thought it much different from
> ABC/LX. How do they differ?

It is easier to dexscribe what is *equal*: they both help you charging
batteries. There is hardly anything else in common - apart from the
author :-)

I suggest to get the demo version at www.dasoft.com.

Andreas [D&A]

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For anyone who's interested there's a new version of my Palmtop Periodic
Table at http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html
It will also be on S.U.P.E.R. soon. (next time they upgrade the page)
This version has a molecular weight calculator function.
Have a good one,
Owen
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On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, John Stafford wrote:

> There is one called Station 100 which can be seen at
>
> http://www.sparcom.com/davinci/st100.htm
>
> I know nothing more about it than what is on the web page
> and in the article about the vet that uses one (in the HP
> Palmtop Paper Volume 6 Number 3).  I'd also be interested
> in more information about SmartDock (sp?).
> John Stafford -- http:/www2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.htm --
> johnws@ix.netcom.com
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( I apologize if this is a duplicate post, my trusty LX is at Mack's for
a "tune up" and I am using Pegasus on my Laptop for EMail, and I suspect
my previous post was lost)

I got SmartDock about a year ago from:

da Vinci Technologies Group
899 NW Grant Ave
Corvallis OR 97330-4935
v: (541)757-8416
f: (541)753-7821

There are 3 models:

Station 100: AC adapter and serial cable, allows access to PCMCIA slot on
left side...$79.95 ($99.95 w connectivity software)

Print Station: same as above w/ serial to parallel converter...$199.95

Mail Station: same as Print Station w/ MODEM...$289.95

They also have 3 models for the 95LX and a 3.5" FDD for $379.95.

Cheers,

        AJKind

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> I'm trying to decide whether to wait a little longer OR get the speed =
and
> memory upgrade for my good old friend.  Well, HP what will it be. =
 If
> theres no new DOS palmtop comming, just tell me.  I promise I won't =
jump of
> the next bridge with my 200LX in hand.

>From where I sit I can't see a worthy successor to the 200LX anywhere =
in
sight :-(  The speed and mem upgrades are superb and will probably =
make
you fall in love with your machine all over again <g>. I *highly*
recommend them - no need to wait...

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> Has anyone used Notebook Supply Warehouse (NSW) for 200 LX upgrades. =
Any
> comments?

In addition to being an avid 200LX user myself, I also sell 200LX'ers =
in
trinidad (supplied directly from NSW) and I have received no less than =
8
mem upgraded machines from them (including my own). Not only do the
machines perform flawlessly but you are not likely to get a more pleasant,
courteous and efficient service from many other outfits... The mem =
chip
seems to be the very same one that mack ships (at least it behaves =
that
way) and the 2x from mack works fine with the NSW upgrade also.

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> Does anyone have a utlity the will change the cursor from the little
> underline type to either a block or preferably a blinking block in =
DOS?
> I've tried server from Simtel but can't find one that works well =
with the
> CGA display on the 200LX. Thanks in advance!

No need to look so far... Buddy will do the job!

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Has anyone received their new copy of the latest HP Palmtop Paper? I have lost track of when the new issue is due and I am starting to get the shakes.. :-)

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At 09:44 PM 9/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
>If anyone is interested I've found a checkers game that runs great on the
>200LX. In fact, I have yet to beat it :) It's got a CGA mode that looks
>really nice. It is fully functional but is shareware with some "nag"
>screens when you quit the program. If anyone wants a copy, just drop me a
>line.
>

Jeff

where can I get a copy ?

Rich
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About a week ago Nan-shan Chen posted the list with an offer of a little
TSR
that does what you want. EMail him privately at:

                                    chen@get.uni-paderborn.de

and he will EMail a copy back to you. I have a copy and it works perfectl=
y.

On  Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:40:22 -0500  Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET> wrote:

>Does anyone have a utlity the will change the cursor from the little
>underline type to either a block or preferably a blinking block in DOS?
>I've tried server from Simtel but can't find one that works well with th=
e
>CGA display on the 200LX. Thanks in advance!

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        I have downloaded the new version of Hisword and the King James
Version fo the Bible (AV) onto my flash card.  I go & menu A T and then go
to the a: and Hisword directory. At A:\Hisword>  I type   hisword
a:\hisword\av   and nothing happens.  I have to reboot to get out.
        Anybody have any suggestions?
        I am really looking forward to using it.

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All,

I am considering purchasing a 100lx which I have found at a good price, but
have a few questions about connectivity on the machine. I currently have a
95lx with the connectivity kit which served well until it was replaced by a
Newton 110 a few years back. (My Newton 110 was stolen).

So anyway here are my questions...

All I need to do as is file transfer between the 100lx and a PC, can I get
buy with just a connection cable or do I need the full connection kit?

Also, if I can get buy with just a cable, could I purchase an IR
connection. CompUSA here locally has an 100/200lx IR dock for around $50.

Also, I am thinking about using the HP with a Modem/Ram card to access the
internet. Is a 2400 modem on the lx fast enough for NetTamer or WWW/LX
usage?

Thanks In Advance,

Dan
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In response to one of your questions ...

--- On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:01:55 -0500  Card Catalog <driden@STLNET.COM> wrote:

>All I need to do as is file transfer between the 100lx and a PC, can I get
>buy with just a connection cable or do I need the full connection kit?

    All you need is a cable and to download a free copy of Transfile Win 200 from HP.
    This cable is available from Educalc and includes an adapter so that you can use
    it with the 95LX also.

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I never have had a connection kit, but I did buy a serial cable with my
200 (2 1/2 years ago).  I used Intersvr.exe and Interlnk.exe (DOS 5.0)
to manage my file transfers for about the first year or so.  Then I
found two 3rd party products, IntelliSync and Trans File 200 (TF200 is
on the web for free).

Phil

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On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:

> I never have had a connection kit, but I did buy a serial cable with my
> 200 (2 1/2 years ago).  I used Intersvr.exe and Interlnk.exe (DOS 5.0)
                                                                    ^^^
> to manage my file transfers for about the first year or so.  Then I
> found two 3rd party products, IntelliSync and Trans File 200 (TF200 is
> on the web for free).

I use Interlnk/Intersvr (still), but I believe they weren't available till
DOS 6.0.

- Longden

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>         I have downloaded the new version of Hisword and the King James
> Version fo the Bible (AV) onto my flash card.  I go & menu A T and then go
> to the a: and Hisword directory. At A:\Hisword>  I type   hisword
> a:\hisword\av   and nothing happens.  I have to reboot to get out.
>         Anybody have any suggestions?
>         I am really looking forward to using it.

Have you created a subdirectory of A:\Hisword called AV and
transferred the files to it?

regards

Antonio



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I think you are correct, I could not recall so I guessed.  :)

Phil

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>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:
>
>> I never have had a connection kit, but I did buy a serial cable with my
>> 200 (2 1/2 years ago).  I used Intersvr.exe and Interlnk.exe (DOS 5.0)
>                                                                    ^^^
>> to manage my file transfers for about the first year or so.  Then I
>> found two 3rd party products, IntelliSync and Trans File 200 (TF200 is
>> on the web for free).
>
>I use Interlnk/Intersvr (still), but I believe they weren't available till
>DOS 6.0.
>
>- Longden
>

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Phil,

Thanks for the info about Trans File 200. I just went to HP's site and
tried to downlaod it but it kept giving an error message when I clicked on
the link. Is this program available anywhere else?

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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> From: Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: 100lx Connectivity?
> Date: Thursday, September 18, 1997 3:33 PM
>
> I never have had a connection kit, but I did buy a serial cable with my
> 200 (2 1/2 years ago).  I used Intersvr.exe and Interlnk.exe (DOS 5.0)
> to manage my file transfers for about the first year or so.  Then I
> found two 3rd party products, IntelliSync and Trans File 200 (TF200 is
> on the web for free).
>
> Phil
>
> >----------
> >From:  Card Catalog[SMTP:driden@stlnet.com]
> >Sent:  Thursday, September 18, 1997 3:01 PM
> >To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> >Subject:       100lx Connectivity?
> >
> ><snip>
> >All I need to do as is file transfer between the 100lx and a PC, can I
get
> >buy with just a connection cable or do I need the full connection kit?
> ><snip>
> >Dan
> >driden@stlnet.com
> >
>
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     Hi!
     Yes, but you have to buy it. It's from Yellow Computer Inc. in
     Germany.
     You can find them at WWW.yellow.com

     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-driden (driden@STLNET.COM) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
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Phil,

Thanks for the info about Trans File 200. I just went to HP's site and
tried to downlaod it but it kept giving an error message when I clicked on
the link. Is this program available anywhere else?

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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> From: Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: 100lx Connectivity?
> Date: Thursday, September 18, 1997 3:33 PM
>
> I never have had a connection kit, but I did buy a serial cable with my
> 200 (2 1/2 years ago).  I used Intersvr.exe and Interlnk.exe (DOS 5.0)
> to manage my file transfers for about the first year or so.  Then I
> found two 3rd party products, IntelliSync and Trans File 200 (TF200 is
> on the web for free).
>
> Phil
>
> >----------
> >From:  Card Catalog[SMTP:driden@stlnet.com]
> >Sent:  Thursday, September 18, 1997 3:01 PM
> >To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> >Subject:       100lx Connectivity?
> >
> ><snip>
> >All I need to do as is file transfer between the 100lx and a PC, can I
get
> >buy with just a connection cable or do I need the full connection kit?
> ><snip>
> >Dan
> >driden@stlnet.com
> >
>
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At 15:06 9/18/97 -0500, you wrote:
>        I have downloaded the new version of Hisword and the King James
>Version fo the Bible (AV) onto my flash card.  I go & menu A T and then go
>to the a: and Hisword directory. At A:\Hisword>  I type   hisword
>a:\hisword\av   and nothing happens.  I have to reboot to get out.
>        Anybody have any suggestions?
>        I am really looking forward to using it.

Did you unpack the AV files using the online bible program on you desktop
machine before transfering to the HPLX?  This has to be done.
Owen

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Does anyone have any suggestions on a convenient way of keeping a time/activity log on the
200LX and generating bills to customers.

I am thinking of using Lotus w/macros for creating date and time stamps.  But, is there a
better way?

Thanks.

______________________________________________

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           9/18/97 6:08:37 PM EDT
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I have a Smartdock docking station and extra ac/dc adoptor I might sell.
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Dan,
this was actually distributed to the list by accident last month (despite
the 'No Binaries' message on the footer). So I guess some people would have
copies of it and could send it to you and NOT the LIST !!.

I'd be happy to do so but unfortunately I'm having problems with my EMAIL
client and whenever I try and send an attachment it ABENDS - re-booting the
machine - nasty !! and of course I don't have time at the moment to wipe my
machine and re-install everything.

Anyone else out there who could send a copy of Trans File to Dan ???

Zyg.


>Phil,
>
>Thanks for the info about Trans File 200. I just went to HP's site and
>tried to downlaod it but it kept giving an error message when I clicked on
>the link. Is this program available anywhere else?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan
>driden@stlnet.com

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Zyg. Poliniak wrote:

> this was actually distributed to the list by accident last month
> (despite
> the 'No Binaries' message on the footer). So I guess some people would
> have

Actually, just for clarity's sake, I must point out that the "No
binaries" message didn't exist at the time.  It was a response to that
800K posting, as well as a couple others, that led to the "DO NOT POST
BINARY FILES" message.

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>Did you unpack the AV files using the online bible program on
you desktop
machine before transfering to the HPLX?  This has to be done.<

Owen

If our friend downloaded AV from Tom's site the module is already
unpacked and ready to use with HisWord(tm)

regards

Antonio



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Michael

Ask Avi Meshar. D&A is developing such a program and as per his
information in July is due to be marketed any day now.

regards

Antonio

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Zyg and Everyone,

Thanks, I have received a couple copies of the file from other list members
via E-mail. Ive never seen a list with this fast of a response. Thanks
Again.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: 100lx Connectivity?
> Date: Thursday, September 18, 1997 5:30 PM
>
> Dan,
> this was actually distributed to the list by accident last month (despite
> the 'No Binaries' message on the footer). So I guess some people would
have
> copies of it and could send it to you and NOT the LIST !!.
>
> I'd be happy to do so but unfortunately I'm having problems with my EMAIL
> client and whenever I try and send an attachment it ABENDS - re-booting
the
> machine - nasty !! and of course I don't have time at the moment to wipe
my
> machine and re-install everything.
>
> Anyone else out there who could send a copy of Trans File to Dan ???
>
> Zyg.
>
>
> >Phil,
> >
> >Thanks for the info about Trans File 200. I just went to HP's site and
> >tried to downlaod it but it kept giving an error message when I clicked
on
> >the link. Is this program available anywhere else?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Dan
> >driden@stlnet.com
>
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<<Has anyone received their new copy of the latest HP Palmtop Paper?>>

I haven't. Thought they went to the printer this week, but I might be
wrong.

     Carl

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    I am new to HP Palmtops (well, palmtops in general) and have a few
questions.

1.    Can you hook a mouse to a 200's serial port?
2.    What kind of rechagable batteries are the best to use with a 200?
3.    Also, does anyone have an inexpensive (<$30) flash card (1 meg+)?
I know this is kind of a long shot but I figured I should at least ask.

    Could someone send me a schematic or instructions (or both) about
building a cable to connect the palmtop to a PC?  I would really
appreciate it.

    I am working on a new HP palmtop site.  If you want your's or
another's site listed or if you have some info for me to put on it, I
would be happy to add it.  The site will be at the following location
(and should be up by October 1st):
        http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/9861/

    Thanks in advance!

-Jeremy Klukan

P.S.:  I am working on a pseudo-backlight for palmtops (and other things
with large, unlit LCD displays).  Let me know if your interested and how
much you would want to pay for one.  It will have an external battery
pack that should last for just as long as the palmtop's batteries, if
not longer.  I'll repost when I have everything ready.

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Text of message from mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM, 18 Sep 1997, 06:14 PM
> Does anyone have any suggestions on a convenient way of keeping a
> time/activity log on the 200LX and generating bills to customers.
>
> I am thinking of using Lotus w/macros for creating date and time stamps.
> But, is there a better way?
>
> Thanks.

There was a thread on this about 6 months ago.  Options include custom
database, Quicken, custom application.

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At 18:45 9/18/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>Did you unpack the AV files using the online bible program on
>you desktop
>machine before transfering to the HPLX?  This has to be done.<
>
>Owen
>
>If our friend downloaded AV from Tom's site the module is already
>unpacked and ready to use with HisWord(tm)
>
>regards
>
>Antonio
>
Your right Antonio,
I just check Tom's site. Last time I download from there the files had to
be unpacked.
Thanks,
Owen
>
>
>________________________________________________
>Antonio Queiroz Menezes M.Sc. (Econo)
>Porto - Portugal
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Greetings All:

        Just to clairify, the "No Binaries" rule has always been in effect
(see the WELCOME file if you still have it ;-) ), it was just after a
few transgressions that It became necessary to enforce it
religiously. The rationale is two-fold: first is to keep posts to a
limited legnth for those of us who read this list from their palmtops
and disk space is at a premium, second is that binary files cause the
GLIMPSE search engine to slow to a crawl.

        I am also curious if anyone is successfully subscribed to the INDEX?
I have my test EMail address subscribed. I get the nightly digest
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>From "Jim Carlson" <carlson2@startext.net>
To HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Date Wed, 18 Sep 1997 20:10:28 +0000
Subject Re: memory upgrades

I have a 1MB 200LX which was upgraded to 5MB by NSW.  It worked great
for a while.  Then I started losing files on the C: drive and it would
not recognize other files.  I returned the unit to NSW and they
replaced the memory module.  I just received it today so I don't know
if the problem has been corrected.

Jim

> Date          Wed, 17 Sep 1997 19:32:31 -0700
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> Has anyone used Notebook Supply Warehouse (NSW) for 200 LX upgrades.
> Any comments?
>
> TIA
>
> Karl
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Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:
>
> Ok, I know this is the HP200 list but just for information I found a web
> listing
> for a pocket computer that is a 386/25SX with 16 gray levels and 2 meg


So give us the web address already!

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FYI,

Zoom 14.4 pocket modems (can run on 9v battery) appear
to be orderable from http://www.isn.com.  The web page
said there were 7 in stock as of 2000 PDT on 9/17.  They
are $186 + change.

I don't own one of these modems and I have no connection
with this company other than as a customer.

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> Has anyone received their new copy of the latest HP Palmtop Paper? =
I have
> lost track of when the new issue is due and I am starting to get =
the
> shakes.. :-)



I can certainly understand your concern <g>. The last issue was July/Augus=
t
which means that the upcoming issue should become available within =
another
week or two (for US subscribers at least)...

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> I am considering purchasing a 100lx which I have found at a good =
price, but
>
> All I need to do as is file transfer between the 100lx and a PC, =
can I get
> buy with just a connection cable or do I need the full connection =
kit?

As mentioned in an earlier reply, the free transfile200 program (available
at hp's site) should do the job - at least on a win95 pc - not sure =
about
win3.x. However the connectivity pack run from dos is much faster (and
reliable). Another *very* good utility is acelink from ace technologies.
This is possibly the best piece of software they produced but it maybe
difficult to find now? Although I've never really had to use this it =
should
also be possible (but very awkward) to transfer using a terminal emulation
program on the desktop running zmodem or xmodem.

> Also, if I can get buy with just a cable, could I purchase an IR
> connection. CompUSA here locally has an 100/200lx IR dock for around =
$50.

This sounds like an interesting option... do you have any further details
on this item?

> Also, I am thinking about using the HP with a Modem/Ram card to access =
the
> internet. Is a 2400 modem on the lx fast enough for NetTamer or WWW/LX
> usage?

I owned one of the apexdata combination memory/modems (which I assume =
is
what you are referring to) and it worked very well indeed with both =
the
programs you mentioned. If you intend to use it for mainly email and
newsgroups you will be happy with it but if you expect to be handling =
more
file attachments and d/l's from the web it can tax your patience a =
bit <g>.
Power consmption was very good though and the flash portion can be =
'jammed'
or 'stacked'...

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> 1.    Can you hook a mouse to a 200's serial port?

Sure can but if you're thinking about using it with the built-in apps
you're out of luck since these don't support a mouse. However many =
dos
apps do and you also have a choice of using the 'hpmouse' keyboard =
mouse
emulator available on www.palmtop.net/super.html. If you're thinking =
of
using it with windows then you'll need the shareware 'keymouse' emulator
instead.

> 2.    What kind of rechagable batteries are the best to use with =
a 200?

Aaah... the million dollar question! Varta NiMh seems to hold the coveted
top spot from what I've read recently on this list.

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>         Just to clairify, the "No Binaries" rule has always been in effect
> (see the WELCOME file if you still have it ;-) ), it was just after a
> few transgressions that It became necessary to enforce it
> religiously. The rationale is two-fold: first is to keep posts to a
> limited legnth for those of us who read this list from their palmtops
> and disk space is at a premium,

I'd like to take this opportunity to raise the issue of excessive quoting,
which also uses up that ol' disk space. Even with plenty of disk space, it
uses up another valuable resource when wading through it all - time.

Please, take a moment to delete unneccessary lines when replying - seeing
3 or 4 copies of the "Do not post binaries to this list" warning always
strikes me as particularly ironic, given its rationale above. :)


"Concise is nice" should surely resonate with the deep Philosophy
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> All I need to do as is file transfer between the 100lx and a PC, can I get
> buy with just a connection cable or do I need the full connection kit?

If you are comfortable with DOS, you might consider Zip, which I just got
from the SUPER site. You can use it on both the 100lx and PC: It's much
faster and more convenient than the built-in DataComm...

Brendan

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Have you tried "Simply Accounting" or "Quickbooks" for DOS, to do your billing?
They work great.

Adios, Jeffcom

At 06:45 PM 9/18/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Michael
>
>Ask Avi Meshar. D&A is developing such a program and as per his
>information in July is due to be marketed any day now.
>
>regards
>
>Antonio
>
>________________________________________________
>Antonio Queiroz Menezes M.Sc. (Econo)
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>Using Post/LX
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> How many hours (ABC/LX...or course<g>) do you get off the NiMH? Is =
your LX
> speed doubled?

It differs a lot. Somewhere between 4 and 10 hours. Usage of a PCMCIA
modem and flash memory makes a lot of difference. I have a memory
upgrade and a speed upgrade. The memory upgrade needs more power too,
but in total it is still better for me for battery life because compiling =
on C:
seems to need much less power than compiling on A:.

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I hit the same download problem about 6 months ago, but got it to work
using WS_FTP instead of a web browser.
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> Thanks for the info about Trans File 200. I just went to HP's site and
> tried to downlaod it but it kept giving an error message when I clicked on
> the link. Is this program available anywhere else?

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Hi Michael  (and the rest of HP gang)


How about this:

   You run a DOS program called TimeTrack.exe (or something similar)

  A *free form* editor opens and you log your time like this:

Client
=====
    Sam Chapman Enterprises
    1415 L Street
    Sacramento, CA  94127
=======================

      Project                                Task
                                        Date                 Time

==============   ===================================       ======
========
Sales Automation    Develop automated backup procedure
09/18/1997            3.5
                                    Review Upload requirements from bus.
people                                      1.5
Issues Log                 Design Data Entry Screen
                 09/19/1997            3.0

etc.

If you forget the required format you press F7 to import a sample or you
press F1 for help.  The only real requirement is that any time amounts are
always specified at the end of a line.

When done, you press F10 to exit the editor.

The system asks you if you want to prepare an invoice.  You respond by
picking the "yes" option. The system then parses the file and adds up the
times in the right column and multiplies  the sum by your hourly billing
rate.  The total owed is printed at the bottom of the invoice.

The invoice would look basically like the log itself except that it would
have your name at the top, the billing date, and "Please pay this amount: "
at the bottom (or something like that)

TimeTrack doesn't exist, but I could write TimeTrack quite fast in PDC
Prolog.  If you're interested, let me know what you want the invoice to
look like and I'll knock it out for you.  Also, if you see any limitations
or concerns in this design let me know. I think the idea of using a free
form for the log is rather unique.  I'm assuming, here, that you could use
a single billing rate for all the tasks -- no matter what the project is.
If you had different billing rates for different projects it would be a
little more complicated.

Actually, the log file could be prepared in any editor.  You could use the
built-in notes system in the HP (Ctrl-Memo) and
then when you're ready to prepare an invoice, you could save the note as a
time and ask TimeTrack to read the file
and prepare the invoice.

[NOTE: I'm also thinking that an AWK program could also be written to scan
the text file and make the invoice.]
AWK is free and comes with the VR program on the SUPER site (I think).  It
takes a bit of study to learn AWK, though.

I know, I know, there's already a Time and Billing Program out there that
probably does all this.

At 06:14 PM 9/18/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Does anyone have any suggestions on a convenient way of keeping a
time/activity log on the
>200LX and generating bills to customers.
>
>I am thinking of using Lotus w/macros for creating date and time stamps.
But, is there a
>better way?
>
>Thanks.
>
>______________________________________________
>
>  "Michael Stocker" <mdstockr@neo.lrun.com>
>           9/18/97 6:08:37 PM EDT
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Owen Samuelson wrote:
>
> I have a 1 meg HP200LX which I've owned for 3 years now.  I bought it for
> $530.00 new and consider that some of the best money I've ever spent.  As
> with a lot of you, I take it everywhere.  Is it just me, or does anyone
> else think HP is dragging their feet releasing an upgrade (DOS based) to
> the 200LX?  I want a newer faster processor, more memory, at least 16
> levels of gray scale display (256 color would be nice but I'll give a
> little), 2 type II PCMCIA slots, figure out a way to squeeze in 4 AA
> batteries at 3V to give 2x current for longer runtime between charging.
> There's more...boy, I sure want a lot.
> I'm trying to decide whether to wait a little longer OR get the speed and
> memory upgrade for my good old friend.  Well, HP what will it be.  If
> theres no new DOS palmtop comming, just tell me.  I promise I won't jump of
> the next bridge with my 200LX in hand.
> I know this stuff has been discussed before, but I had to blow of some steam.
>
> Have a good one,
> Owen
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Hi Owen:
I know the feeling.  After an exhaustive search on my own I'm not sure
there are any alternatives like the trusty 200LX.  I was never so pissed
off as when I walked into one of the CompUSA stores here in Denver to
have one the less than concerned or interested sales staff tell me
"sorry, did you not hear DOS IS DEAD."  What a pile of dung.  Sorry
about the strong words.... If only we could convince HP to re-introduce
and next time with a 16550 riding the serial port.  Long live the 200LX.
Good Day,

Roger

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I just downloaded TF200 from the HP site. No problem.
They needed my name, e-mail address & serial # of my 200LX.
(I have a 100LX.)

Adios, Jeffcom.
>----------
>> Thanks for the info about Trans File 200. I just went to HP's site and
>> tried to downlaod it but it kept giving an error message when I clicked on
>> the link. Is this program available anywhere else?
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> I was never so pissed off as when I walked into one of the CompUSA
> stores here in Denver to have one the less than concerned or
> interested sales staff tell me "sorry, did you not hear
> DOS IS DEAD."  What a pile of dung.

Dung indeed. If DOS is so DEAD, then why does microsoft include it in
Windows95? And these are the supposed assasins! From what I have heard, it is
WINCE that is feeling UNWELL. :)


But if they can get Java running reasonably in WinCE 2.0, they may have
something there... Unless! Someone writes a Java interpreter for DOS!! Yes!

Now *there* is a worthy programming project for a meddlesome god! It
would wreck *havoc* in the mainstream world if all those old computers
were suddenly compatiable with the latest software again... and ...

[heavenly music]

... the hplx would have a new lease of life as it joyfully splashes back
into the mainstream. :)

Brendan

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>If you are comfortable with DOS, you might consider Zip, which I just got
>from the SUPER site. You can use it on both the 100lx and PC: It's much
>faster and more convenient than the built-in DataComm...

I tried zip once and it seemed to gag on password protected files; other than
that (and maybe I did something wrong instead of it being at fault), it was
fast...

John Stafford -- http:/www2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.htm --
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        It may be more interesting than that [Java potentially being the
salvation of WinCE.] There was an item on Reuters News as located on Yahoo
this week, about Microsoft declaring their WWWeb Pages a "Java-free zone."
It would appear, that if SOMEBODY ELSE (Sun) controls the standard, that
Microsoft doesn't want to play. I wouldn't expect Java on a WinCE platform
any time soon. [Of course, that Reuters news item on Yahoo might be a
temporary aberration on someone's part, and they might be over-ruled.]
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For sale or trade:

Infotel 14.4 pocket modem (9v or wall adapter). Includes box, manual, wall adapter

$100 or trade towards 56Kflex modem

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Subject:      Re: 100lx Connectivity?

How does "Transfile 200" differ from what comes packaged with th HP Connectivity Kit?

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Date:         Fri, 19 Sep 1997 10:47:18 -0300
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Subject:      close filer

dear people


anyone can email me a copy of the program to close the filer ?

i'm in the south of chile now, and i don't have access to my web account
so, i can't download from the super site now

today, i bought a new batteries, SAF brand (france) Nimh, 1400 !!! for
about $10, they last for about 2000 re-charges (they say...)

another thing....if we press SHIFT+0(caps)+FN the palmtop hangs for a
while, it's a bug or what ?

thanks for all !


martin
marseb@giga.com.ar

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DOS is dead???  DOS is dead???  What a load of ...uhh... organically
recycled fertilizer!

If DOS is dead, then howcome there's a magazine - DOS World - dedicated
to it?

If...   howcome a major software house (Corel) recently released
WordPerfect Suite 6.2 for DOS?

...  howcome there's new shareware and freeware for DOS coming out=
 all
the time?

AND...  howcome there's a DOS emulator for wince in the works? Sheesh=
 -
imitation DOS on machines running imitation WinDoze. Speaking of
organic fertilizer!

<end of rant>

-PR
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At 10:48 PM 9/18/97 -0700, you wrote:
<Big SNIP>

>If only we could convince HP to re-introduce
>and next time with a 16550 riding the serial port.  Long live the 200LX.
Maybe the 8550 is a single surface mount device?
Anyone know??   Mack??
If it is, maybe Mack at Times2 could start doing the conversion.
The 8550 and 16550 are pin compatible as DIP chips.

Mark

Long Live the HP200 with upgrades!

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Transfile Win 200 is a Windows application.

Very easy to use to transfer file to/from PC and to back-up LX.

--- On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 08:53:35 -0400  "Ken A. Moore" <KenAMoore@OMNITRAINING.COM> wrote:

>How does "Transfile 200" differ from what comes packaged with th HP Connectivity Kit?
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BE SURE YOU GET THE LATEST VERSION, CURRENTLY 204G. IT WORKS FLAWLESSLY
WITH OR WITHOUT PASSWORD. BUT!!!! IT YOU USE PASSWORD YOU HAVE TO DO IT
RIGHT.

73 SPENCE K4KEP (EX W9QNI)

John Stafford wrote:
>
> >If you are comfortable with DOS, you might consider Zip, which I just got
> >from the SUPER site. You can use it on both the 100lx and PC: It's much
> >faster and more convenient than the built-in DataComm...
>
> I tried zip once and it seemed to gag on password protected files; other than
> that (and maybe I did something wrong instead of it being at fault), it was
> fast...
>
> John Stafford -- http:/www2.netcom.com/~johnws/index.htm --
> johnws@ix.netcom.com
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GOOD NEWS ON TRIMBLE SCOUTMASTER "TOPO" MODEL. TALKED TO A TECH AT "TNI"
AND GOT A DIFFERENT STORY THIS TIME. HE SAID LOOK AT THE APPLE SERIAL
CONNECTOR.

THE SERIAL DATA PORT IS MORE OR LESS COMPATABLE WITH THE APPLE CONNECTOR
MINI DIN 8P. NOT THE 5P OR 6P.

I GOT ONE LOCALLY (35 MILES AWAY) AND ALTHOUGH IT HAS A LITTLE SLOP IN
IT(IT DOES NOT FIT TIGHT), I THINK IT WILL WORK OK. THE TRIMBLE
CONNECTOR IS A RIGHT ANGLE MODEL AND THE APPLE MDIN8P IS STRAIGHT.

THANKS TO ALL THAT HELPED OR TRIED TO HELP ON THIS ITEM

73

SPENCE, K4KEP (EX W9QNI ORIGINAL ISSUE)

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Date:         Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:36:34 -0400
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CLARI-NET SIENCE NEWS HAD A ARTICAL ABOUT 2 WEEKS AGO THE MICROSOFT WAS
TRING TO CRUSH JAVA AND MS WAS SAYING THAT JAVA HAD MAJOR FLAWS AND
NEVER SHOULD BE USED.

SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER OF BILL GATES SKY-WASH.(THAT IS BLUE SKY HOG WASH)

73 SPENCE K4KEP (EX W9QNI)

Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> > I was never so pissed off as when I walked into one of the CompUSA
> > stores here in Denver to have one the less than concerned or
> > interested sales staff tell me "sorry, did you not hear
> > DOS IS DEAD."  What a pile of dung.
>
> Dung indeed. If DOS is so DEAD, then why does microsoft include it in
> Windows95? And these are the supposed assasins! From what I have heard, it is
> WINCE that is feeling UNWELL. :)
>
> But if they can get Java running reasonably in WinCE 2.0, they may have
> something there... Unless! Someone writes a Java interpreter for DOS!! Yes!
>
> Now *there* is a worthy programming project for a meddlesome god! It
> would wreck *havoc* in the mainstream world if all those old computers
> were suddenly compatiable with the latest software again... and ...
>
> [heavenly music]
>
> ... the hplx would have a new lease of life as it joyfully splashes back
> into the mainstream. :)
>
> Brendan
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Just another friendly service of the HPLX-L ;-)
        How many copies did you get?

> Date          Fri, 19 Sep 1997 10:47:18 -0300
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> From          Martin Sebastian <marseb@GIGA.COM.AR>
> Subject       close filer
> To            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> dear people
>
>
> anyone can email me a copy of the program to close the filer ?
>
> i'm in the south of chile now, and i don't have access to my web account
> so, i can't download from the super site now
>
> today, i bought a new batteries, SAF brand (france) Nimh, 1400 !!! for
> about $10, they last for about 2000 re-charges (they say...)
>
> another thing....if we press SHIFT+0(caps)+FN the palmtop hangs for a
> while, it's a bug or what ?
>
> thanks for all !
>
>
> martin
> marseb@giga.com.ar
>
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Has anybody succesfully installed & used an IBM Home & Away Card (Ethernet /
14.4kb) in their HP200lx...
Actually it is an HP1000cx (same exact thing except only runs DOS no APP/SYS
manager)...
So what i'm looking for is a way to connect my Hp Palmtop to my LAN at work
& test to see if an Ethernet connection is functioning or not, would also
like to be able to do basic Network Admin stuff (transfer/move files)...
Preferably it will be a DOS based Ethernet program so I can log in to my
network ,etc...


thanks!


josh

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>Have you created a subdirectory of A:\Hisword called AV and
>transferred the files to it?

        Thanks.  I did not do that.  I had put everything into the Hisword
directory.  I have now made that change.  However, it will still not run.
        Do you have any other suggestions?

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e-mail me Agentrapid@aol.com i have three cursor tsr's in a zip file none
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send on to super also i wrote some of these back in 1980. dos lives!

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Anyone interested in battery consumption and/or the effects of Flash
Memory read on - I'm sorry, it gets a bit involved.

I recently pruchased a Simple Technology 16MB Flash Memory Card =

for the 200LX and was a little dissapointed in the reduction in battery
life =

since using it. The time between charges reducing form 12 hours to 6 hour=
s
(approximately) when using 900mAH NiCad batteries.

As a result I decided to take a few measurements to establish what the =

current consumption of the 200LX was, and when the Flash disc was having =

an effect. The measurements are reproduced here in case they are of
interest to anyone. The measurements were taken by inserting an ammeter
in series with the batteries.

With 200LX turned off it consumes 0.45mA, with and without flash card

Without flash card, current consumption was 25mA average, flctuating in
sync
with the 1 second clock. When typing this increased to between 40 and 60m=
A.
The same test with the flash card inserted consumed 70mA, and was constan=
t =

under all conditions - so this is where my battery life is going :-(

Booting up (after CTRL-ALT-DEL) fluctuates wildly, peaking at 70mA withou=
t
the flash card, and 190mA wth it.

Whilst measuring currents, I took the following additional readings:

High Charge Current =3D 110mA
Low Charge Current =3D 50mA
Serial interface turned on but no lead connected =3D 5mA extra (less than=
 =

I expected)
Serial interface turned on with lead connected to desktop PC =3D 12mA ext=
ra,
this does not change when transferring data.

The result of all this is that the flash memory card is consuming about
45mA
yet Simple Technology quote less than 1mA consumption in the quiescent
sleep mode. It would seem that the 200LX does not correctly drive this
particular brand of memory card in order to achieve the best results.
Simple Technology quote about 20mA current consumption when active
(reading) which, taking into account the inverter in the 200LX which =

presumably generates 5V from the 2.6V battery voltage, equates to about =

40mA at the battery,  which is what I am seeing.

Has anybody encountered similar experiences with this card type, or any =

other card types? I have posed a similar question on the list before and
the
only response I received indicated that this was unusual.

Another thought - my current consumption is around 70mA, and I am using =

900mAH batteries (new and fully charged), I should be getting >12 hours
usage - can we believe everything battery manufacturers stamp on their
batteries?

Laurence Harvey

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I use an Appointment Book alarm to run a DOS batch file each day that
copies all changed files from my C drive to my non-volatile A drive
expecting that everything that has changed will be copied (based on =

the DOS attribute flag). Unfortunately, his was not the case whan I calle=
d
upon the backup. My APPT.ADB file was not being backed up.

Further investigation has showed that when the appointment book is
open, as it must be for the alarm to operate, the APPT.ADB file attribute=
s
are changed, clearing the archive attribute, and making the file read onl=
y.

Making the file read only is OK, but why clear the archive attribute and
hence
stop the backup from operating correctly - is this a bug?

It would appear that the same situation exists for Phonebook, Notetaker =

and Database files (and possibly others), but not memo files. Basically
most
files that are open will not be backed up using this method. The only saf=
e
way
is to use copy all files to be sure.

Just thought I would warn anyone who may be using the same XCOPY =

command for their backups

Laurence Harvey

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<<Unless! Someone writes a Java interpreter for DOS!!>>

How would this work on a 200LX. As I understand it, Java needs a 32 bit
chip and the 80186 on the 200LX is only 16 bit. Is it even feasible?

     Carl

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<<"Concise is nice" should surely resonate with the deep Philosophy
of the hplx...>>

Here, here. Cheers from the gallery. I obviously agree wholeheartedly.

     Carl

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My sincere apologies to all of you!!!=20

        I meant to send CLSFLR via private message. As mentioned before I am =
using an unfamiliar EMail client on my laptop while my LX is at =
Times2Tech for upgrade. This never would have happened w/ PostLX ;-).

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>How does "Transfile 200" differ from what comes packaged with the HP Connectivity Kit?
--
>Transfile Win 200 is a Windows application.

>Very easy to use to transfer file to/from PC and to back-up LX.

Just curious:
1. Does that mean it is easier/better to transfer and backup than HP Connectivity Kit?
2. Does it work on Win3.1?

I am very happy with the HP Conn. Kit but if this is BETTER, then <rolling up his sleeves> let me at it.

Thanks,
Ken Moore

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Subject:      Re: Current Consumption Figures

-snip-

>Another thought - my current consumption is around 70mA, and I am using
>900mAH batteries (new and fully charged), I should be getting >12 hours
>usage - can we believe everything battery manufacturers stamp on their
>batteries?

>Laurence Harvey

The way battery capacity is measured is weird. I don't remember all the details, but it depends on alot of things, temperature and current being two. A battery
that can put out 1A of current for an hour will not necessarily be able to put out 2A for 1/2 hour or 100ma for 10 hours. Likewise, a battery that is cold will not have nearly the capacity of a warmer one. I know this response is in general terms, but I wanted to get the idea across that you can't divide maH by ma to get hours of life.


David Satterfield
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>----------
>From:  Laurence Harvey[SMTP:harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM]
>Sent:  Friday, September 19, 1997 12:40 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Appointment Book File Not Backed Up
>
><snip>
>Further investigation has showed that when the appointment book is
>open, as it must be for the alarm to operate, the APPT.ADB file attributes
>are changed, clearing the archive attribute, and making the file read only.

The appointment application does not need to be open for alarms to
"function".
To use xcopy for unattended backups, you need two alarms, one macro and
one batch file.  Build them as follows:

MACRO           :this macro closes all the open applications in
preparation for doing a backup.

        Description: Close All Applications
        Contents: {More}{Menu}al

BACKUP.BAT  :usually stored in the directory where your backups will
reside.

        xcopy c:*.* f:\backup\ /s/m/v

ALARM NUMBER 1  :this alarm closes any open applications (including APPT
manager).

        Description: ||9
        Start Time: <insert time of desired backup>
        End Time: <default>
        Location: no data required
        Alarm
          [x] Enabled
          Leadtime: 0
all other fields as desired.

ALARM NUMBER 2  :this alarm calls the backup.bat file.

        Description: |f:\backup\backup.bat
        Start Time: <one minute after ALARM NUMBER 1's time>
        End Time: <default>
        Location: Q                <--- this is not a typo, a "Q" is required
here.
        Alarm
          [X] Enabled
          Leadtime: 0
all other fields as desired.

This method is outlined in an issue of The Palmtop Paper, published
sometime this year.
Good luck!

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Yes it works under 3.1 (and 3.11 WFW) and I don't know the other answer.
 :)

Phil

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>Sent:  Friday, September 19, 1997 1:00 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       Re: 100lx Connectivity?
>
><snip>
>Just curious:
>1. Does that mean it is easier/better to transfer and backup than HP
>Connectivity Kit?
>2. Does it work on Win3.1?
>
><snip>

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<<>How does "Transfile 200" differ from what comes packaged with the HP
Connectivity Kit?>>

<<1. Does that mean it is easier/better to transfer and backup than HP
Connectivity Kit?>>

It's not easier/better than the HP Connectivity Kit. Both are easy. But y=
ou
don't have to exit to DOS or run a DOS window to get it to work.

TFWin200 is just the equivalent of Filer program on connectivity kit.
Excludes other apps such as database, phone, calendar, HP calc, etc that
come with the HP Connectivity Kit.

<<2. Does it work on Win3.1?>>

Yes.

Also, it's free, whereas HP Connectivity Kit is not.

     Carl

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Subject:      Re: 100lx Connectivity?
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     Hi!
     No, if you run windows 3.xx stay with the connectivity kit. It is much
     faster then transfile win 200 Ver 1.3.

     Helmut in Colorado



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Date:    9/19/97 12:00 PM


>How does "Transfile 200" differ from what comes packaged with the HP Connectivi
ty Kit?
--
>Transfile Win 200 is a Windows application.

>Very easy to use to transfer file to/from PC and to back-up LX.

Just curious:
1. Does that mean it is easier/better to transfer and backup than HP Connectivit
y Kit?
2. Does it work on Win3.1?

I am very happy with the HP Conn. Kit but if this is BETTER, then <rolling up hi
s sleeves> let me at it.

Thanks,
Ken Moore

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     Hi!
     Just to show you we all are just human. There was one man perfect and
     we know what they have done to Him.

     Helmut in Colorado

     But still my eyes almost came out at the post.

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Look at http://www.port-home.com/hp200 for more information
about IRD and HP 200 LX.

Sincerely

JS

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HP>Just another friendly service of the HPLX-L ;-)
HP>        How many copies did you get?

   heheheheheh....yeah....it's incredible right ? :)
   well al, i get 3 copies, one from you, one from jeff, and one from a
guy in australia i think.

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>
>         Thanks.  I did not do that.  I had put everything into the Hiswo=
rd
> directory.  I have now made that change.  However, it will still not run=
.
>         Do you have any other suggestions?
>
Randy,

Have you run hisword c:\hisword\av from the DOS prompt again?
If you have check that *all* dat files from the zip file you
downloaded from Tom's site  are in the AV subdirectory.
If they are check your C:\_dat directory for hisword.cfg, it must be
there, if it isn=B4t move it from the hisword directory to c:\_dat.
Under the [User] section you must have the following:
Path=3Da:\hisword\av (caution, Path is word sensitive).

If you have all this ok I can=B4t help you further and I suggest that
you contact Tom at mailto:thoover@pobox.com.

Regards

Antonio





If you

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> My sincere apologies to all of you!!!
>
> I meant to send CLSFLR via private message. As mentioned before I =
am using
> an unfamiliar EMail client on my laptop while my LX is at Times2Tech =
for
> upgrade. This never would have happened w/ PostLX ;-).

Okay, you're off the hook this time but only if you promise to share =
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the list your comments on the 2x upgrade... <vbg>

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> Just curious:
>
> 1. Does that mean it is easier/better to transfer and backup than =
HP
> Connectivity Kit?

Not in the least! The backup utility bundled with cpack200 is far better
and faster in my opinion to anything transfile has to offer. Also the
transfile backup does not allow selective backup or restore - its all =
or
nothing! Transfile's only real purpose is to provide file transfer
capability while running win95 and an 'inexpensive' (okay its free...)
option for those who haven't any other transfer progs.

> 2. Does it work on Win3.1?

Good question!

> I am very happy with the HP Conn. Kit but if this is BETTER, then =
<rolling up
> his sleeves> let me at it.

May I suggest that you keep your originial disks of the connectivity =
pack
in a fireproof safe or safety deposit box. <g>  There's just nothing =
quite
like it...

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On Fri, 19 Sep 1997, josh wrote:

> Has anybody succesfully installed & used an IBM Home & Away Card (Ethernet /
> 14.4kb) in their HP200lx...
> Actually it is an HP1000cx (same exact thing except only runs DOS no APP/SYS
> manager)...
> So what i'm looking for is a way to connect my Hp Palmtop to my LAN at work
> & test to see if an Ethernet connection is functioning or not, would also
> like to be able to do basic Network Admin stuff (transfer/move files)...
> Preferably it will be a DOS based Ethernet program so I can log in to my
> network ,etc...

I tried it as a modem and could never get it working...not so much as a
flash or beep! I think someone said it draws too much power and I ended up
returning it.

- Longden

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Subject:      Re: Give me an upgrade or give me death!(not)
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> <<Unless! Someone writes a Java interpreter for DOS!!>>
>
> How would this work on a 200LX. As I understand it, Java needs a 32 bit
> chip and the 80186 on the 200LX is only 16 bit. Is it even feasible?

Well, I don't know the specifics, but ... any Turing machine can simulate
any other Turing machine (though it may not be very fast). As an
example, my hplx has run as both a ZX81 (Timex-1000) and a ZX Spectrum!

Java is an interpreted language, which runs on a virtual machine on top
of your hardware. The virtual machine is simulated anyway.

I'm sure many of the security mechanisms of Java would be more easily
*implemented* on a 32 bit chip (which have memory protection etc), but I
can see no barrier to simulating them.

However, the feasibility issue may arise through a DOS java being too
slow. On top of this, a Java programmer friend reckons that java is
around 10 times slower than C; so the whole lot would shamble more
than run on a hplx. :)

Brendan

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Subject:      Re: Fluff (was Re: Where do they go?)

on a related subject, a while back we were discussing the lowest prices
for lx's, and i'm wondering if anyone might be able to suggest a good
place to post for sale lx ads?

> ----------
> From:         Martin Sebastian[SMTP:marseb@GIGA.COM.AR]
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> Subject:      Fluff (was Re: Where do they go?)
>
> HP>On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:
>
> HP>> Educalc (and someone else, I can't recall) have offers to buy
> "old"
> HP>> palmtops.
> HP>> I wonder where those units go, and what happens to them...
>
> HP>This is like the mystery of where elephants go to die.
>
> HP>Maybe someone could write a Sci-Fi/horror story like "Soylent
> Green" (I'm
> HP>really dating myself on that one) where old HP 95/100/200 LX's are
> carted
> HP>off to some sinister recycling factory and emerge as......
>
> HP>WinCe palmtops <long scream....fadeout>
>
> HP>- Longden
>
> HP>PS - Maybe we should ship a couple of them to Mir.
>
>    CLAP,CLAP,CLAP,CLAP :)
>
>    I think that "Norton Commander" should be useful....
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Has anyone got their hplx working entirely from solar power?

> When typing this increased to between 40 and 60mA.
> High Charge Current = 110mA
> Low Charge Current = 50mA

For a while, I recharged my NiCds soley (sic) by a solar recharger -
5 hours on a sunny day would seem to fill the smaller 550mAH.

But I heard the way to go is to charge an intermediate accumulator -
say, a 12V lead acid battery (which can be much smaller than a car
battery!), and then charge the NiCds from the accumulator. Sure, the
extra steps lose efficiency, but you can recharge on overcast days.
You can also use a bigger solar panel.


A palmtop that fell to Earth needs an independent power source. <g>


Brendan
PS It's spring here in the southern hemisphere, and the sunny days turn
one's mind to things solar.

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> on a related subject, a while back we were discussing the lowest prices
> for lx's, and i'm wondering if anyone might be able to suggest a good
> place to post for sale lx ads?

There are *heaps* of FS ads for hplx on comp.sys.palmtops
Don't know if they are going or not, though... but a sensible place for
buyers to look, really.

Brendan
PS I think this mailing list should be advertised in comp.sys.palmtops
I, for one, only found out about it by accident. Now, how do you
subscribe? Where's that WELCOME file?



> > old HP 95/100/200 LX's are carted off to some sinister recycling
> > factory and emerge as......

> > HP>WinCe palmtops <long scream....fadeout>

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->I use an Appointment Book alarm to run a DOS batch file each day that
->copies all changed files from my C drive to my non-volatile A drive
->expecting that everything that has changed will be copied (based on  the
->DOS attribute flag).

Does the alarm act to do this even if your LX is turned off?

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>

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Ok, I have to put in my 2 cents worth. I can't belive that HP still sells
the "Connectivity Kit" and for $99. It doesn't work with Quicken 5 or 6 for
windows, only 4 and under. I'm happy with Transfile from Yellow Computing
(Hp Website), wish it could selectively restore and I'm sure that YC hasn't
made enough money to keep up the excellent work.

Did you know that USR lost a law suit with Pilot of France (Really crappy
Pens) and has to rename and take off the shelves all product that has the
Pilot (Palm) name on it, boxes, product, accessories, get the picture?

Also PalmPilot or....(thing with a screen) is coming out with a CE unit in
early 98 or for stocking stuffers. Let's have a new name contest!!!!

JR

At 02:13 PM 9/19/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Yes it works under 3.1 (and 3.11 WFW) and I don't know the other answer.
> :)
>
>Phil
>
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>>Sent:  Friday, September 19, 1997 1:00 PM
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>>Subject:       Re: 100lx Connectivity?
>>
>><snip>
>>Just curious:
>>1. Does that mean it is easier/better to transfer and backup than HP
>>Connectivity Kit?
>>2. Does it work on Win3.1?
>>
>><snip>
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Does this work with Windows NT 4.0 WS


On Friday, 19 September, 1997 10:07 PM, mdstockr [SMTP:mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM]
wrote:
> Transfile Win 200 is a Windows application.
>
> Very easy to use to transfer file to/from PC and to back-up LX.
>
> --- On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 08:53:35 -0400  "Ken A. Moore"
> <KenAMoore@OMNITRAINING.COM> wrote:
>
> >How does "Transfile 200" differ from what comes packaged with th HP
> >Connectivity Kit?

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Does anyone have information on the syntax used to communicate with the
Filer when it is in remote mode?  I want to make some custom programs under
Win95 to communicate with the Filer.
-David

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One of the best mails posted to the list reg. CEs, I like it!

I think you are using the builtin ccMAIL (I'm guessing from
your mail address.)  Does your ISP offer a reliable service?
Or do you hook up to it from LAN?  The problem with the service
to me is that they don't have any AP in Tokyo.

POST/LX fixed my mailing problems in using 200LX, but I'm
still interested in the service as a back up.  I'd appreciate
your advice.

BTW, I wonder why people ask (indirectly..) others' opinions
about CEs or CE machines.  I guess after all they are not
certain about them while telling good things about them.




Asushi Hanai, Tokyo

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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      hard reset

hum.

on some occasions, when i perform a hard reset {ctl}{lft shft}{on} i loose
the time and date.  other times, i do not.

does anyone know:
  a)  what is the condition which occasions this?
  b)  is there anything the user can do to avoid this?
  c)  is there anything which the programmer should do to avoid this?

thanks in advance for any hints.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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This thread has probably been around once or twice already but I'm 2 mont=
hs
new to the list.  I excised the 170mb hard drive from my Compaq Aero and
bought a Valu Stor (sp?)  hard drive kit with ext power to house it.  Doe=
s
anyone have any experience with this with the 200LX?  Also just noted in
the literature which indicates one must use a 286 or above to support it.=
 =

Thoughts or suggestions?
Tom Nemeth
late of Damascus, Syria
but waiting in the labor/delivery room in Tampa for our first born.
(Yep, I thought labor was like on tv, 1-2-3.  Not!)

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> Another thought - my current consumption is around 70mA, and I am =
using
> 900mAH batteries (new and fully charged), I should be getting >12 =
hours
> usage - can we believe everything battery manufacturers stamp on =
their
> batteries?

I'm not a chemist but during a discharge cycle the voltage drops so
that inverter you mentioned will cause a proportionate increase
in current draw at battery. So 70mA at 2.6V might be 80mA at 2.28V =
if
the batts ever get that low. Maybe you have to start recharging way
before the full 900mA are consumed. I don't know. Agreed it seems to =
be
out by a factor of 2!! Very interesting post.

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Comments: To: WindowsCE-Talk@windowsce.com

Decided on the Velo1 (bought and will keep!). Selling 2 month old HP 320LX, 4
megs for $425/BO preferably in San Francisco Bay Area but can ship.
Also, Smartcom HP200/100LX dock station for $85, ac/dc adapters (2) for
$15.00
Exp 1414 modem/4megs $125.

gerry
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HI LAURENCE. I US A VERY SHORT BU.BAT AND THIS IS IT.
@A:
@CD \
@C:
@CD \
@XCOPY C:\*.* A:\*.* /E/S/V
@CD \
*********************
WORKS WITHOUT FAIL EVERY TIME.'

73 SPENCE K4KEP (EX W9QNI)

Laurence Harvey wrote:
>
> I use an Appointment Book alarm to run a DOS batch file each day that
> copies all changed files from my C drive to my non-volatile A drive
> expecting that everything that has changed will be copied (based on
> the DOS attribute flag). Unfortunately, his was not the case whan I called
> upon the backup. My APPT.ADB file was not being backed up.
>
> Further investigation has showed that when the appointment book is
> open, as it must be for the alarm to operate, the APPT.ADB file attributes
> are changed, clearing the archive attribute, and making the file read only.
>
> Making the file read only is OK, but why clear the archive attribute and
> hence
> stop the backup from operating correctly - is this a bug?
>
> It would appear that the same situation exists for Phonebook, Notetaker
> and Database files (and possibly others), but not memo files. Basically
> most
> files that are open will not be backed up using this method. The only safe
> way
> is to use copy all files to be sure.
>
> Just thought I would warn anyone who may be using the same XCOPY
> command for their backups
>
> Laurence Harvey
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Use www.dejanews.com to find where the action is.
Try this "(fs or sale) and (100lx or 200lx)"
Magic!

Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > on a related subject, a while back we were discussing the lowest prices
> > for lx's, and i'm wondering if anyone might be able to suggest a good
> > place to post for sale lx ads?
>

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>Does the alarm act to do this even if your LX is turned off?

Yes, just set an alarm with a Description field containing the batch file=

you
wish to automatically run when the alarm time comes, preceeded by a |
e.g. |backup.bat

When the alarm time comes, the 200LX will power on, run the batch file an=
d
power off.

Check Phil Drummonds response to my original mailing which gives a full =

description of how to setup the alarm system to avoid the problems I =

originally found with open files not being backed up - thanks for that
Phil.
I still wonder if this is a bug, although Phils technique gets around the=
 =

problem, why does the HP remove the archive flag when a file is open, =

but only in some of the built in applications. I guess we'll never know..=
=2E.

Laurence Havey

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I decided to do the same measuring someone else did, in order to provide
something to compare with.

This is my equipment:

HP200LX 4mb
Verbatim 10MB PCMCIA ATA flash card (Sundisk manufactured).
Megahertz XJ2144 PCMCIA modem with XJACK

These are the results:

Power off:

No PCMCIA:              420uA, raises to 510uA momentary every two seconds.
With ATA flash:         Same.
With modem:             Same.

Power on:

No PCMCIA:              Waiting for keystrokes: 33.1mA, Processing: 65.7mA
With ATA flash: Waiting for keystrokes: 35.2mA, Processing: 68.6mA
With modem:             Waiting for keystrokes: 55mA, Processing: 88.1 mA
                        Initializing modem: 160 mA.
                        Certain stages of dialing/connecting: 340mA.
                        Online: 290 mA.

Notes:

"Waiting for keystrokes" means just that. Letting the palmtop boot a doing
absolutely nothing.

"Processing" means any type of processing activity in the palmtop, from key
pressing to intense number crunching. In the case of ATA flash, seems that
the card goes to low power mode a second after any access to the card. This
is, when entering "A:" power consumption raises to 68.6mA, remains there
for a second, and then gose down to 35.2mA. If the card is not inserted,
raises and falls of power are rapid when starting/stoppin processing.

Seems that the palmtop disables most of the parts whenever it's possible in
order to save power. When the modem is online, the extra power consumption
seems to be due not only to the modem itself but also to the constant
processing and extra circutry permanently active.

Seems that the flash card doesn't affect very much to battery life, because
just that 1 second delay in going to stand-by mode. I didn't measure power
consumption when WRITING to the card, which according to flash technology
specs, is the most power hungry use.

Assuming the palmtop runs from 5V, and a 90% efficiency in the DC-DC
converter (sure it's below) two 1.2V 750mAh NiCd batteries would last about
1:07 with modem online.

With no modem, battery life depends very much on real processing time,
varying from 5h to 9h. Seems too little.

Salu2. Nacho.

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>Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 23:23:51 -0400 (EDT)
>From: GERRYSOCCO@aol.com
>To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu, WindowsCE-Talk@WindowsCE.com
>X-Processed-By: HSKT 1.0fc2 by Joshua Baer
>Subject: [CE] FS: HP 320 LX-4megs $425/Bo in SF
>
>Decided on the Velo1 (bought and will keep!). Selling 2 month old HP 320LX, 4
>megs for $425/BO preferably in San Francisco Bay Area but can ship.
>Also, Smartcom HP200/100LX dock station for $85, ac/dc adapters (2) for
>$15.00
>Exp 1414 modem/4megs $125.
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Transfile Win200 is a windows application which gives you the ability
to copy files between the Palmtop and a PC. It works nicely (in my
experience) under Windows for Workgroups 3.11 and also reputedly under
Win95 and NT. (I will try NT tomorrow at work and report to the group).
By the way it fits on one 1.44Mb diskette and can be run from the diskette
and only creates an ini file in the Windows directory, so it is also good
for "jumping" from PC to PC. I use it mainly when I need to quickly copy a
couple of files between computers.

The connectivity pack has two components: The DOS connectivity pack and
LapLink.
The DOS connectivity pack is a DOS package which can run in a DOS window,
which aside from connecting to the PC also has a set of system manager
applications which run on the PC when the palmtop is not around. I
personally find it handy for accessing my phone book and appointment book
when sitting at my PC. It also gives my wife access to my phone book, which
I consider an advantage though some others might differ (G).
The DOS part of the connectivity pack can also be put on a diskette, giving
you something esle to casrry around when travelling! (See the SUPER site)

Laplink gives you access to your palmtop from the pc by "mapping" the
palmtop drives A C D etc to drives on your PC which laplink "creates" eg
drives G H I. I find this useful as then once a week I back up the palmtop
to my PC using PKZIP to zip each palmtop drive into a zip archive, using a
batch file.



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Does anyone have a picture of the port on the HP200LX that is used to
connect it to a PC?  What about the plug that fits into the port?  If no
one has a picture, I would appreciate an illustration (text or
graphic).  Thanks!

-Jeremy

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DOS programs can be automated rather easily.  I am automating certain
aspects of the Connectivity Kitalready .  With Windows
programs you are usually stuck with a manual drag and drop process.

Why go backwards to a manual process just for pretty pictures?
When Windows ia appropriate -- for painting, music, graphical reports --
use it.  When speed and automation of text processes is important,
appropriate use DOS!  When you want to choose from a vast array of programs
on a palmtop, use DOS..


At 04:02 PM 9/19/97 -0400, you wrote:
><<>How does "Transfile 200" differ from what comes packaged with the HP
>Connectivity Kit?>>
>
><<1. Does that mean it is easier/better to transfer and backup than HP
>Connectivity Kit?>>
>
>It's not easier/better than the HP Connectivity Kit. Both are easy. But you
>don't have to exit to DOS or run a DOS window to get it to work.
>
>TFWin200 is just the equivalent of Filer program on connectivity kit.
>Excludes other apps such as database, phone, calendar, HP calc, etc that
>come with the HP Connectivity Kit.
>
><<2. Does it work on Win3.1?>>
>
>Yes.
>
>Also, it's free, whereas HP Connectivity Kit is not.
>
>     Carl
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Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!

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How can I start Lotus 1-2-3 with an alarm.  (I can't find the correct
pathname for the Lotus 1-2-3 app.)


Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
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You can automate Windows using WinBatch.

--- On Sat, 20 Sep 1997 17:33:31 -0700  Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM> wrote:

>DOS programs can be automated rather easily.  I am automating certain
>aspects of the Connectivity Kitalready .  With Windows
>programs you are usually stuck with a manual drag and drop process.
>
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           9/20/97 9:26:25 PM EDT
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Greetings,

        Well I have my LX back (no more "binary blunders"). I just
wanted to pass along that Times2 Tech is offering their 8mB upgrade=
 for
$249. They will also give you a $100 credit (as they did me) for your
preexisting 4mB chip. FedExed it out on Wed...had it back on Friday.

Those of you worried about voiding your warranty, need not; Mack will
honor the remaining months of HP warranty if you can supply proof of
date of purchase (this does not include LCD screens or physical damage).
LXs outside the 1yr are given 3 months.

FYI the phone is (205)620-1408, FAX is (205) 620-5205

Cheers,


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I've got kind of a trivial question. I regularly use a Megahertz XJ144
modem in my 200LX and I use Banana Comm Lean for my terminal program.
Whenever I dial into my ISP or BBS's it says that I'm connected at
57600bps. I know thats not true, but what I'd like to know is there a way
to find out what the quickest speed you can connect with the XJ1444. When
I use my EXP Thin Fax Basic LX modem I only connect at 2400bps, which is
what the modem is rated for when being used for data transfer. Oh well I
know it's trivial but I was curious about it.

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**

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I'm savin my pennies to get my 200LX upgraded to 6MB and plan to use
Mack, hopefully it will be soon as swapping these SRAM cards is a real
pain in the rear :(

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
jeffj@scott.net

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the reported speed is the speed of the other guy's modum.  it will support
anything up to the reported speed.  your actual speed is limited to 14.4K
bps.  it could be either a little or a lot slower, depending on the quality
of your phone connection;

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Gerry,
Do you have anything left. I'm interested in an ac adaptor and the modem?

Thanks,
Mike

At 11:23 PM 9/19/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Decided on the Velo1 (bought and will keep!). Selling 2 month old HP 320LX, 4
>megs for $425/BO preferably in San Francisco Bay Area but can ship.
>Also, Smartcom HP200/100LX dock station for $85, ac/dc adapters (2) for
>$15.00
>Exp 1414 modem/4megs $125.
>
>gerry
>gerka@pacbell.net
>gerrysocco@aol.com
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Here it goes. Looking at the socket, from left to right,
top row              1 2 3 4 5
bottom row           6 7 8 9 10
1 Data carrier detect
2 Receive data
3 Transmit data
4 Data terminal ready
5 Signal ground
6 Data set ready
7 Request to send
8 Clear to send
9 Ring indicator
10 Signal ground

Hope this helps you,
Adios, Jeffcom.

At 04:57 PM 9/20/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Does anyone have a picture of the port on the HP200LX that is used to
>connect it to a PC?  What about the plug that fits into the port?  If no
>one has a picture, I would appreciate an illustration (text or
>graphic).  Thanks!
>
>-Jeremy
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Israel Tokayer wrote:

> Here it goes. Looking at the socket, from left to right,
> top row              1 2 3 4 5
> bottom row           6 7 8 9 10
> 1 Data carrier detect
> 2 Receive data
> 3 Transmit data
> 4 Data terminal ready
> 5 Signal ground
> 6 Data set ready
> 7 Request to send
> 8 Clear to send
> 9 Ring indicator
> 10 Signal ground
>
> Hope this helps you,
> Adios, Jeffcom.

Is it like a serial port or more like a phone jack or PCMCIA
connection?  Is the bump on the top or on the bottom?  Thanks!

-Jeremy

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Where can I get a copy of Stacker or a similar (very similar) program?

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Jeremy, when you look at the right side of your palmtop, the notch is on
top, and the pins are numbered from left to right, 1 - 5 top row, 6 - 10
bottom row.
This is the best explanation I can give you in English.

Adios amigo, Jeffcom.
At 09:58 PM 9/20/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Israel Tokayer wrote:
>
>> Here it goes. Looking at the socket, from left to right,
>> top row              1 2 3 4 5
>> bottom row           6 7 8 9 10
>> 1 Data carrier detect
>> 2 Receive data
>> 3 Transmit data
>> 4 Data terminal ready
>> 5 Signal ground
>> 6 Data set ready
>> 7 Request to send
>> 8 Clear to send
>> 9 Ring indicator
>> 10 Signal ground
>>
>> Hope this helps you,
>> Adios, Jeffcom.
>
>Is it like a serial port or more like a phone jack or PCMCIA
>connection?  Is the bump on the top or on the bottom?  Thanks!
>
>-Jeremy
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Israel Tokayer wrote:

> Jeremy, when you look at the right side of your palmtop, the notch is
> on
> top, and the pins are numbered from left to right, 1 - 5 top row, 6 -
> 10
> bottom row.
> This is the best explanation I can give you in English.
>
> Adios amigo, Jeffcom.

Thanks.  My palmtop won't arrive until Monday or Tuesday.  I'm just
trying to absorb as much info about it as possible before I get it, so I
know what I'll need to get for it and all.  Later!

-Jeremy

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Okay, everyone.  My new site is up and the HP 200LX part has the most so
far (if you call one page a lot).  There should be quite a bit on it by
Wednesday.  Please visit it and sign my guestbook.  Thanks!

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/9861/

-Jeremy

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Thanks!  Is there a site detailing how to use it?  Later!

-Jeremy

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The XJ uses the V32 protocol, which means hardware compression on both
ends (modems).  Three speeds can be reported with a bbs connection:
1. The sender (BBS) com port -> modem, this is probably the 57600 you see
2. The modem->modem speed which won't be more than 14400 and is
     often the first thing reported when you connect to the BBS
3. Your modem -> com port. Look to your modem and Banana comm manuals
     to see if that can be reported.

Look for a large text file on a bbs and download it with zmodem. On highly
compressible date maybe 3000 bps

Jeff wrote:

> I've got kind of a trivial question. I regularly use a Megahertz XJ144
> modem in my 200LX and I use Banana Comm Lean for my terminal program.
> Whenever I dial into my ISP or BBS's it says that I'm connected at
> 57600bps. I know thats not true, but what I'd like to know is there a way
> to find out what the quickest speed you can connect with the XJ1444.

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The modem  and adapter are still available.Email me asap !

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Both are still available!

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        Someone on the LIST sent me a note last week because they
had signed up on the LIST under one account and could not send posts
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I accessed your site and the HP200LX page just fine, but all others after
that result in a Geocities error page reporting a "not found" condition.

I tried it with both IE 3.0 and Navigator 3.0 Gold... both on Win 3.1 (in
case that matters).

----------
> Okay, everyone.  My new site is up and the HP 200LX part has the most so
> far (if you call one page a lot).  There should be quite a bit on it by
> Wednesday.  Please visit it and sign my guestbook.  Thanks!
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On Sat, 20 Sep 1997 17:53:56 -0700  Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM> =

wrote:
>How can I start Lotus 1-2-3 with an alarm.  (I can't find the correct
>pathname for the Lotus 1-2-3 app.)

You could create a macro consisting of {123} and then run that macro
automatically at the alarm time by creating an alarm with the =

Description field containing only ||n (where n is the function key number=

the macro is assigned to)

See 200LX Users Guide page 3-15 for more details.

Laurence Harvey

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Can anyone share what is the best source of games, specifically designed for
the Palmtop, a la Tetris?

Thanks for your help.
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You may want to try the eddie site, they have nyet there which is a
tetris game, they also have another version of tetris. The SUPER site
has several games including a version of Risk for the palmtop. Good luck
and happy gaming!

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**




On Sun, 21 Sep 1997, Carlos Quintero wrote:

> Can anyone share what is the best source of games, specifically designed for
> the Palmtop, a la Tetris?
>
> Thanks for your help.
> Carlos
> cq9302@aol.com
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jeff
Thanks for the response
Please advise on the eddie site.  Do you have their address?

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Michael S Goggin wrote:

> I accessed your site and the HP200LX page just fine, but all others
> after
> that result in a Geocities error page reporting a "not found"
> condition.
>
> I tried it with both IE 3.0 and Navigator 3.0 Gold... both on Win 3.1
> (in
> case that matters).

Those pages do not yet exist on the server.  I will be uploading them
shortly.  I will post to the list when I do.  The only pages that are
done are the Links, New Stuff, and the Feedback.  I will get the others
done by Wednesday (I hope!!!), except for the classifieds and the
store.  Both of those will be using CGI scripts which I will have to get
working.  Thanks for visiting!

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Is it possible to upgrade the palmtop's processor?  If so, how high can
you go and how much trouble is it to upgrade?

-Jeremy
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Al -

> I just wanted to pass along that Times2 Tech is offering their 8mB
> upgrade for $249. They will also give you a $100 credit (as they did me)
> for your preexisting 4mB chip.

I thought he was doing 4MB and 6MB _upgrades_, resulting in machines with
5 or 6MB _total_ in the former case, and 7 or 8MB _total_ in the latter.
Or is that what you meant?

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Yes, you can auomate Windows using WinBatch -- that's why
I said you can automate DOS programs *rather easily*

I still can *not* automate a lot of Windows programs with Winbatch because
they don't
have keyboard equivalents for those time consuming mouse movements!  There
are ways
around this, perhaps, but it is not easy.  You need yet another utility to
capture
the dialog boxes, etc.

Also with 32 bit windows, you cannot read the the screen with Winbatch
like you can with EasyShare in DOS.    I understand that reading the screen
under windows 3.1 doesn't work well with Winbatch -- you need an extra
utility program and the results are not so good  (according to a Winbatch
tech support person).  EasyShare in DOS works well!  You can
search the entire screen for a keyword or simply wait until the keyword
appears
on the screen, etc.  I like Winbatch and use it, but only when I it is
appropriate.


At 09:28 PM 9/20/97 -0400, you wrote:
>You can automate Windows using WinBatch.
>
>--- On Sat, 20 Sep 1997 17:33:31 -0700  Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM> wrote:
>
>>DOS programs can be automated rather easily.  I am automating certain
>>aspects of the Connectivity Kitalready .  With Windows
>>programs you are usually stuck with a manual drag and drop process.
>>
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I've had far too many coffees this morning, so I had these ideas. Enjoy!


Enlarge the hlx display with a defraction grating magnifying glass.

(I *think* that's what they're called - a thin sheet of plastic with
a circular grating). The hplx display is very high resolution, but a bit
small - to enlarge it to the full top half of the clamshell case would
be a significant increase in size.
Just stick a sheet of magnifying on - perhaps with springs (so the case
closes) with a uniform expansion (so the sheet is flat)


Put a hp200lx in a hp300lx case.

You get the larger, higher resolution screen (and a larger keyboard, too).
The hp200lx board should fit in physically unaltered, because the hp300lx
case is larger. All you need is a modified screen driver - and the
middle magnified font should be about right for the larger screen. An
appropriate video mode would allow DOS software to use the wider screen.
They could also add extra RAM, and a faster clock while they are at it.
This would be a very easy upgrade step.


Dictaphone

Speech recognition software is pretty good these days, apparently - 19/20
words correct, but you must speak slowly. So you buy an old 8 bit sound
blaster PCMCIA card, and connect a lightweight telephonist's
headphone/microphone headset. Then, you can dictate in the car. If the
software lags behind, it just stores the incoming sound sample until you
pause, and it can catch up. Hopefully there is a cache in the card, so
you need not write time-sharing code. You might need 6MB or 8MB internal
RAM to hold the speech-to-text program, and store sound-files, with
nothing else on it.
The Velo & Psion could already do this with their built-in microphones.
I wonder why they don't? The Newton MP2000 does do an analogous trick
with handwriting; but I think speech recognition would be much more
useful on a palmtop.


Remote controlled hp!

The reverse of using your hplx as a remote control unit: use your remote
control unit to control your hplx! This could be good for the eva viewer,
which looks better from a distance, but it's more of a silly trick. Like
laser light was. <g>


Yours in wakefulness,

Brendan

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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> I've had far too many coffees this morning, so I had these ideas. Enjoy!

Man, those Australian coffees must have some kick!  :)

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>> 2. Does it work on Win3.1?

>Good question!

I got Transfile from the Hp web site. After installation on my
Windows 3.1 PC Transfile popped up with a greek font! I spent
some time to find out how to force Transfile to use another
(readable) font but without success.
Finally I wiped all the greek fonts from my disk and now Transfile
is using a normal font, although I still would like to know how
to change it.

Had anyone experienced something similar?

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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> I've had far too many coffees this morning, so I had these ideas.
> Enjoy!
>
> Enlarge the hlx display with a defraction grating magnifying glass.
>
> (I *think* that's what they're called - a thin sheet of plastic with
> a circular grating). The hplx display is very high resolution, but a
> bit
> small - to enlarge it to the full top half of the clamshell case would
>
> be a significant increase in size.
> Just stick a sheet of magnifying on - perhaps with springs (so the
> case
> closes) with a uniform expansion (so the sheet is flat)

That's called a fresnal (spelling??) lens.

> Put a hp200lx in a hp300lx case.
>
> You get the larger, higher resolution screen (and a larger keyboard,
> too).
> The hp200lx board should fit in physically unaltered, because the
> hp300lx
> case is larger. All you need is a modified screen driver - and the
> middle magnified font should be about right for the larger screen. An
> appropriate video mode would allow DOS software to use the wider
> screen.
> They could also add extra RAM, and a faster clock while they are at
> it.
> This would be a very easy upgrade step.
>
> Dictaphone
>
> Speech recognition software is pretty good these days, apparently -
> 19/20
> words correct, but you must speak slowly. So you buy an old 8 bit
> sound
> blaster PCMCIA card, and connect a lightweight telephonist's
> headphone/microphone headset. Then, you can dictate in the car. If the
>
> software lags behind, it just stores the incoming sound sample until
> you
> pause, and it can catch up. Hopefully there is a cache in the card, so
>
> you need not write time-sharing code. You might need 6MB or 8MB
> internal
> RAM to hold the speech-to-text program, and store sound-files, with
> nothing else on it.
> The Velo & Psion could already do this with their built-in
> microphones.
> I wonder why they don't? The Newton MP2000 does do an analogous trick
> with handwriting; but I think speech recognition would be much more
> useful on a palmtop.
>

You will probably need more that 6 or 8 MB for speech recognition.  IBM
has some software that comes with Corel WP Suite 7 that lets you control
the menus and a few keys (no typing) and it is over 40 MB.  It requires
you to speak one phrase and then it will recognize you after that.
NOTE:  This program is Windows95-based.

> Remote controlled hp!
>
> The reverse of using your hplx as a remote control unit: use your
> remote
> control unit to control your hplx! This could be good for the eva
> viewer,
> which looks better from a distance, but it's more of a silly trick.
> Like
> laser light was. <g>
>

Good idea, however, the remote may not be able to reach the infrared
port of the HP.

> Yours in wakefulness,
>
> Brendan
>
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On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> Enlarge the hlx display with a defraction grating magnifying glass.
>
> (I *think* that's what they're called - a thin sheet of plastic with
> a circular grating). The hplx display is very high resolution, but a bit

That's called a Fresnel lens.

David

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On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, Brendan Macmillan wrote:
> I've had far too many coffees this morning, so I had these ideas. Enjoy!
Did you bring enough for the whole class?

> Enlarge the hlx display with a defraction grating magnifying glass.
>
> (I *think* that's what they're called - a thin sheet of plastic with
> a circular grating). The hplx display is very high resolution, but a bit
Diffraction grating is when you have a picture that changes when you look
at it from different angles (done with tiny prisms).  What you're thinking
of are fresnel lenses (pronounced "frenel" cuz it's French).  Actually
been done before.  Not only is there one at RatShack for their LCD
televisions, but there's something similar for the GameBoy-type games.
Also, they were used in the movie Brasil.

>
> Remote controlled hp!
>
> The reverse of using your hplx as a remote control unit: use your remote
> control unit to control your hplx! This could be good for the eva viewer,
> which looks better from a distance, but it's more of a silly trick. Like
> laser light was. <g>
This one could be done, too.  Since the IR port can be linked to a comm
port, just write a person that watches that comm port, match incoming
series of pulses to stored patterns, and execute the matching commands.

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On Sun, 21 Sep 1997 16:46:09,
        Jim Saklad <jsaklad@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU> Wrote:

> I thought he was doing 4MB and 6MB _upgrades_, resulting in
> machines with
> 5 or 6MB _total_ in the former case, and 7 or 8MB _total_ in
> the latter.

I started w/ a 1mB 200LX.


        After upgrade I have:


   7681024 bytes total disk space
   7474176 bytes in 4 hidden files
      2048 bytes in 2 directories
    201728 bytes in 25 user files
      3072 bytes available on disk

      1024 bytes in each allocation unit
      7501 total allocation units on disk
         3 available allocation units on disk

    651264 total bytes memory
    524144 bytes free


7681024 + 651264 =3D 8332288 or 8.137 mB
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Does anyone have a spare 200 LX-serial cable they'd want in exchange for a
complete set of manuals?

Over the last 2 years, I've bought 3 LX's so I have more manuals than I
need, but fewer cables than I want.

Reply by email if interested. Buyer pays to ship cable and I'll pay to
ship manual (in the US only please).

- Longden

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>If they are check your C:\_dat directory for hisword.cfg, it must be

        I can't find this file.  I have tried downloading Hisword from the
web site again and still can't find hisword.cfg.

        I have gotten his word to start up though.
        However, when I hit F3 for View Verse, I get:
PTRADD-Offset larger than compiler can handle: Damage stack or heap
or
GETEXT-Word number to large: Damage stack or heap

        Have I done something else wrong?

        Thanks for your help and patience.

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On Mon, 22 Sep 1997  Klukan <renegade@BMT.NET> wrote:

> You will probably need more that 6 or 8 MB for speech recognition.=
  IBM
> has some software that comes with Corel WP Suite 7 that lets you control =

> the menus and a few keys (no typing) and it is over 40 MB.  It requires
> you to speak one phrase and then it will recognize you after that.

Probably - but maybe not.  About 15 years ago, I modified a tiny,
published program that ran on the old Sinclair (or Timex) ZX81. (IF
YOU DON'T QUIT LAUGHING, YOU'RE GONNA SPILL YOUR COFFEE IN YOUR LAP!)
Mostly assembly language - less than 1K, plus a little BASIC, and a
few K of workspace. Whole thing fit easily in 16K with lots of room
to spare.It was speaker-dependant, and could be trained to a
vocabulary of about 8 - 10 words.  Didn't do anything useful, but had
a good "Gee whiz" factor at the time.  A slightly modified version,
using a single word, had some ability to recognize different
speakers.

> NOTE:  This program is Windows95-based.

Uh huh. So divide the size by 4 to 10 for a DOS version...

One thing about programming on the little Sinclair (ARE YOU LAUGHING
AGAIN???) was that with a 4MHz Z-80 processor and 16K of RAM (with
expansion) you HAD to learn efficient coding to accomplish anything.


-PR
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On Fri, 19 Sep 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:

> To use xcopy for unattended backups, you need two alarms, one macro and
> one batch file.  Build them as follows:

Thanks for the hint.

I've modified it one further by having just one alarm to run a macro that
closes all apps and then runs the backup batch file. The easiest way to do
this was to add an icon in AppMgr which I labeled "&LX-Backup", so the
tradeoff is that you use 1 less alarm but you have to add an icon. If
anyone can do a 1 alarm backup without adding an icon, I'd like to know
how.

The macro (Fn-7 in my case) looks like this:
        {More}{Menu}aL{More}L

The &LX-Backup icon setup is:
        Name: &LX-Backup
        Path: <path of your batch file for backup> |
        Comments: <inverted ? .... Fn-?>   ==> this suppresses the "Press
                                                any key" msg

The alarm setup is (much borrowed from Phil):

  Description: ||7
        Start Time: <insert time of desired backup>
        End Time: <default>
        Location: no data required
        Alarm
          [x] Enabled
          Leadtime: 0
all other fields as desired.

Incidentally, in my backup batch file, I pkzip the entire C drive to A
since I have the space and it's easier for me to manage.

I previously ran my backups by invoking MaxDOS to increase my chances of
running in case I'd left alot of apps running and didn't have much free
memory. The concern about open apps during backup was always in the back
of my mind, but until Phil's note I hadn't taken the time to investigate
triggering macros to do the close...thanks again Phil.

- Longden

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Any news lately on the proposed backlight solution?


Chris

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If you are looking for a good deal on 1300mah
NIMH batteries these seem to work good for me.
I bought the charger and 2 sets of batteries.


http://www.yessolar.com/products.htm


Chris

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> If you are looking for a good deal on 1300mah
> NIMH batteries these seem to work good for me.
> I bought the charger and 2 sets of batteries.
>
> http://www.yessolar.com/products.htm

Chris, what kind of 'mileage' have you been getting from these nimh's? =
Do
you use a flashcard or perhaps a memory/modem card with them? If you =
don't
use buddy or abl/lx perhaps battlog (from super) could help. I've also
been looking around (with some help from a dear friend in the us) for =
a
high-capacity nimh battery as longer runs between charges would be =
a great
benefit to me.

At present I'm using some older radio shack 650 nicads which are about =
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3.5
abc/lx hrs from the best of the lot.

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Co-worker has seen my 200LX and thinks he will die if he doesn't have
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i currently have a 2mb lx (light use) for sale with a 6mb card and a
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I'm looking for a HP100lx. Thanks

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I have an extra 100LX 1mb and 5 mb flash card. How much are you willing to pay?

Joe Hwang


At 04:51 PM 9/22/97 -0400, you wrote:

>I'm looking for a HP100lx. Thanks

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IBM's OS/2 Warp 4 had continuous speech recognition that required a
Pentium 125 or 150. Discrete words on a 75. IE, about 100 times the
CPU power of the LX.
Speech recognition may be the killer app. for the MMX chips

> > You will probably need more that 6 or 8 MB for speech recognition.  IBM
> > has some software that comes with Corel WP Suite 7 that lets you control
> > the menus and a few keys (no typing) and it is over 40 MB.  It requires
> > you to speak one phrase and then it will recognize you after that.
>
> Probably - but maybe not.  About 15 years ago, I modified a tiny,
> published program that ran on the old Sinclair (or Timex) ZX81. (IF
> YOU DON'T QUIT LAUGHING, YOU'RE GONNA SPILL YOUR COFFEE IN YOUR LAP!)
> Mostly assembly language - less than 1K, plus a little BASIC, and a
> few K of workspace. Whole thing fit easily in 16K with lots of room
> to spare.It was speaker-dependant, and could be trained to a
> vocabulary of about 8 - 10 words. -PR
> ---------
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If you are a moderate user ( 2+ weeks out of alkaline), NiMh
is
probably not for you. They loose 5-10% of there charge per
day even
when they are not used. And even when well treated, they are
only
good for 500 recharges, and they start loosing capacity
before that.

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Who said it was?
Obviously, as amember of this list server, you realize that DOS isn't dea=
d --
it's living very happily inside all of our palmtops!

I agree with you completely -- but who are you ranting at?


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> From: "Chris H." <HudakC@AFCPO.WPAFB.AF.MIL>
> Subject:      Backlight ?
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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> Form: Memo
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>
> Any news lately on the proposed backlight solution?
>
> Chris
>
> "Being a genius is just knowing what you're
> not very good at, and avoiding that subject"
>                 A. Einstein, 1943

I am currently finalizing the designs and locating materials to
construct them with.  I order to compete with existing light solutions,
I will be selling these at a comparable price.  There will be
information available on my site as soon as I get the designs finished.

-Jeremy
 http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/9861/

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Well, I do not know.  I've been thinking about that company that has a =
PCMCIA-
IDE controller but I haven't had the interest to check it out.  It is sup=
posed to be
used with 2 1/2 in. hard drives, which unfortunately draw power from the =
host thru
the IDE cable.  This would draw way more current than the 200 can provide=
.  If
however the controller can actually support 3 1/2 in drives (no reason =
why it shouldn't)
then we're all in luck and someone will make a fortune selling external =
boxes.  I'm
certainly looking forward to it. ;)

N.B. - Such an external box could tap the DC plug on the palmtop -- have =
a Y adapter
for your transformer and run both palmtop and HD off the same power suppl=
y.  Hard
drives run off 12V dc, just like our beloved HP.  You would need a small =
converter to do
the 5v line on the power harness, tho.

Just mah thoughts, have fun...

P.S. The HP doesn't _really_ run off 12V, it runs off 3.  But the power-i=
n jack is 12v, which
is where we'd be tapping the power off of anyway.

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> This thread has probably been around once or twice already but I'm 2 =
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> new to the list.  I excised the 170mb hard drive from my Compaq Aero =
and
> bought a Valu Stor (sp?)  hard drive kit with ext power to house it. =
 Does
> anyone have any experience with this with the 200LX?  Also just noted =
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> the literature which indicates one must use a 286 or above to support =
it.
> Thoughts or suggestions?

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Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Sep 1997  Klukan <renegade@BMT.NET> wrote:
>
> > You will probably need more that 6 or 8 MB for speech recognition.
> IBM
> > has some software that comes with Corel WP Suite 7 that lets you
> control
> > the menus and a few keys (no typing) and it is over 40 MB.  It
> requires
> > you to speak one phrase and then it will recognize you after that.
>
> Probably - but maybe not.  About 15 years ago, I modified a tiny,
> published program that ran on the old Sinclair (or Timex) ZX81. (IF
> YOU DON'T QUIT LAUGHING, YOU'RE GONNA SPILL YOUR COFFEE IN YOUR LAP!)

Actually, I don't drink coffee!  (And, I have an old TRS-80 sitting in
my room, although I am going to get rid of it, since I never use it
anyway!)

> Mostly assembly language - less than 1K, plus a little BASIC, and a
> few K of workspace. Whole thing fit easily in 16K with lots of room
> to spare.It was speaker-dependant, and could be trained to a
> vocabulary of about 8 - 10 words.  Didn't do anything useful, but had
> a good "Gee whiz" factor at the time.  A slightly modified version,
> using a single word, had some ability to recognize different
> speakers.

I believe the original article said something about dictation, however a
phoneme (spelled right?) program might do the trick in a very small
amount of memory.  That might be something to check out.  I myself often
program in QuickBASIC 4.5 (more so now, since C/C++ programs compiled
with DJGPP cannot be run on a palmtop) and might be able to whip
something like that up, in time...

> > NOTE:  This program is Windows95-based.
>
> Uh huh. So divide the size by 4 to 10 for a DOS version...

Tell me about it.  Just look at WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS compared to 5.1
for Windows.  I can understand a meg or two for the Windows interface
stuff but not 10 or 15!

> One thing about programming on the little Sinclair (ARE YOU LAUGHING
> AGAIN???) was that with a 4MHz Z-80 processor and 16K of RAM (with
> expansion) you HAD to learn efficient coding to accomplish anything.

At that time, 16K programs were huge.  Now, they are miniscule.  Almost
any DOS executable will be at least 50K (usually much more).  It's a
good thing we have hard drives!

> -PR
> ---------
> Peniel Romanelli   peniel@web2000.net   d021785c@dc.seflin.org
>     *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
>       "We have met the enemy, and he is us"       - Pogo

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1.  has anyone tried to run doublespace on the palmtop, instead of stacker?
 if it will run on an omnibook 300, it sould work here.

2. does anyone possess the ace software which makes 600+ of low memory
available on the ob300? without it, there are plenty of programs which will
run on the 200lx, but not on the ob300.

{ This is not really off subject, since i am trying to adapt a used ob300 to
provide parallel port support, access to additional pcmcia slots, access to
spinning media hard disks, access to a bigger key board & screen, etc.  it
takes up no more space than the other solutions to those chalanges.  8^)  }

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        Actually, it was the other way around. Continuous speech, which is
for OS COMMANDS and WWWeb Navigation, has 75 MHz. for its box-specs.
requirement. Discrete Speech, which is for DICTATATION [as opposed to
commands], and has the entire vocabulary of the user's language as its
domain, required the 100 MHz. Pentium or better, and is comparatively
accurate, which has not been said of the continuous speech system. Users
who report SATISFACTION with Voice Type Dictation, tend to be running with
64 Meg. or RAM or more, which is about double box-specs. Apparently it
takes somewhere around that to contain the entire "working" vocabulary of
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R.W. Hutchinson. wrote:

>         Actually, it was the other way around. Continuous speech,
> which is
> for OS COMMANDS and WWWeb Navigation, has 75 MHz. for its box-specs.
> requirement. Discrete Speech, which is for DICTATATION [as opposed to
> commands], and has the entire vocabulary of the user's language as its
>
> domain, required the 100 MHz. Pentium or better, and is comparatively
> accurate, which has not been said of the continuous speech system.
> Users
> who report SATISFACTION with Voice Type Dictation, tend to be running
> with
> 64 Meg. or RAM or more, which is about double box-specs. Apparently it
>
> takes somewhere around that to contain the entire "working" vocabulary
> of
> the English language ready for instant use.
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What if the palmtop were to store the phonetics of the speech (sounds)
and then convert them later?  What I mean is storing the syllable
information (short a (a), long a (A); cheese -> chEz; chemistry -> kem i
strE).  The program would not have to be so extensive and the
information could be transferred to a desktop or notebook for
conversion, which would be much faster, more efficient, and would have
the advantage of using a dictionary of words, a fast processor, and lots
of memory.  That just might work, and I have (I think) a program in
BASIC that will work with phonetics.  A simple training program could be
set up to recognize the different sounds (a, A, e, E, ch, k, st, etc.)
and then the dictation program could listen and recognize the different
patterns from the training information.  It actually might work!  Anyone
who would be willing to explore this venture should post to this
thread.  Later!

-Jeremy
 http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/9861/

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>I am currently finalizing the designs and locating materials to
>construct them with.  I order to compete with existing light solutions,
>I will be selling these at a comparable price.  There will be
>information available on my site as soon as I get the designs finished.
>

Jeremy, what does pseudo-backlight mean exactly?

Julie

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Julie Strietelmeier wrote:

> Jeremy, what does pseudo-backlight mean exactly?
>
> Julie
>
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A pseudo-backlight (in this case) means that it mimics the operation of
a true backlight, but is not really one.  This light fits over the
existing screen and makes it look like a backlight.  For everyone who is
curious about this, I should have some stuff on my site about it within
a week or two.  I will post to the list when they become available.
Here are some specs:
    *Designed for HP 200LX Palmtop Computers
    *Snap onto existing screen (palmtop unit cannot be closed while this
light is attached)
    *Separate battery pack with controls (see below) - snaps onto side
of palmtop
    *Three models will be available:
Standard Model:
    *6 individual light sources
    *AC Adaptor Plugin
        **Includes accessory adaptor to allow the HP's AC adaptor to be
used for both
    *Runs on 2 AA batteries (not included)
    *Available with Red, Green, or Yellow light sources (white may also
be available - I'll have to check my parts supplier)
    *Control for power
Enhanced Model:
    *6 individual light sources (maybe 8??)
    *AC Adaptor Plugin
        **Includes accessory adaptor to allow the HP's AC adaptor to be
used for both
    *Runs on 2 AA batteries (not included)
    *Available with Red, Green, or Yellow light sources (white may also
be available - I'll have to check my parts supplier)
    *Digital controls for power and brightness
    *Battery low indicator
Professional Model:
    *6 individual light sources
    *Includes IR signal booster to increase transmission range of IR
signals (both can be run independantly of each other or from the same
power source)
    *AC Adaptor Plugin for Light (if IR booster is connected it will
also use this)
        **Includes accessory adaptor to allow the HP's AC adaptor to be
used for both
    *Runs on 2 AA batteries (not included) [Light] and 1 AA battery [IR
signal booster]
    *Available with Red, Green, or Yellow light sources (white may also
be available - I'll have to check my parts supplier)
    *Digital controls for power, brightness, and IR booster

The IR signal booster will also be available separately, however the
cost for the professional model will be less that the combined cost for
the items separately.  I may also offer HP->PC and HP->HP cables for
less than the retail people.  The IR signal booster (and Professional
model light kit) will not be available right away, since I must explore
different ways of boosting the signal.  The Standard light will be
available very soon and the Enhanced model will follow shortly after.

-Jeremy
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yes, yes, and will there be a vaporware program to control the
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Sascha Brodsky wrote:
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> I'm looking for a HP100lx. Thanks
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Hi Sascha,

I have a 100lx that can't have more than 20 hours on it (based on looks
alone).  I use my 200 but the 100lx,w/books just sits for a rainy day.
Are you still looking?  Let me know.

Roger (KA4LDN) rogerd@chisp.net

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Lynn M. Cavendish wrote:

> yes, yes, and will there be a vaporware program to control the
> pseudo-backlight's brightness?

Well, if you really must know,
    The brightness controls will be mounted on the battery pack with the
power switch.  This is useful for adjusting the brightness as to not
affect other people around you.  The standard model does not have this
and the enhanced will not be more than a few dollars extra.

-Jeremy

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Roger,

Im also looking for an HP100lx. If the other person has already found one,
what would you want for yours?

Thanks,

Dan
driden@io.com

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> > I'm looking for a HP100lx. Thanks
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> Hi Sascha,
>
> I have a 100lx that can't have more than 20 hours on it (based on looks
> alone).  I use my 200 but the 100lx,w/books just sits for a rainy day.
> Are you still looking?  Let me know.
>
> Roger (KA4LDN) rogerd@chisp.net
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>
> A pseudo-backlight (in this case) means that it ....

You can definitely count my money in on this venture!  Just let us know
when it is completed!  Sounds absolutely terrific!

Marta

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What sort of price range are we talking about for these pseudo-backlights?
Sounds pretty promising...

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Not yet. Someone offered my asking price but another upped it to $140.00. How
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is there a way to set lotus 123's default directory. I store my files in a
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Due to a recent change to a Nokia 9000 Communicator I have the following HP200LX for
sale.    The unit was purchased from Rundel Datentechnik for < 1900DM and is
only 9 months old.

1 - HP200LX 2M English Version
1 - 2Meg SanDisk Flash Card
1 - HP Connectivity Pack
1 - Leather Wallet
1 - ABC/LX Battery Voltage Software
1 - Itellilink Software
1 - UK Power Adapter
1 - Swiss Power Adapter

NiMH Batteries fitted.

Reasonable offers accepted.

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to change the lotus default directory:
drill down through the menus

Worksheet
Global
Default
Directory
now set the directory you want as default
when you touch "enter" you will be back at "directory"
tab over to "Update"
touch "enter"
your config file has now been updated to default to the new directory.

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David Sargeant wrote:

> What sort of price range are we talking about for these
> pseudo-backlights?
> Sounds pretty promising...
>
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I would have to say no more than $35 for the standard model.  It depends
on the costs of materials (mostly).  I will try to make them about the
same price as the other lights available (to create some competition)
even though my light and the others are completely different.  I will
have more information about it when I finish the prototype.  Thank you
all for your interest!

-Jeremy
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Card Catalog wrote:
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> Roger,
>
> Im also looking for an HP100lx. If the other person has already found one,
> what would you want for yours?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
> driden@io.com
>
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> > Sascha Brodsky wrote:
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> > > I'm looking for a HP100lx. Thanks
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Hi Dan,

I guess I'd like to get $200 plus shipping.  That is less than I paid
for it.  It is in really fine shape with NO, appreciable wear, books,
and box for what that's worth.  Basically, it hasn't seen much use.

Let me know if this is what you've looking for.

Roger (KA4LDN)

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Ken,

Drive D: is a ROM drive, meaning you can only read information from that drive and not
write to it.

To change your topcard go:

(CTRL)(FILER) - (F4)Owner - (ALT)(p)Picture

>From there enter the location/name of the new topcard's pcx file, which can be located on
either C: or A: drive.

Michael

--- On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 07:53:33 -0400  "Ken A. Moore" <KenAMoore@OMNITRAINING.COM> wrote:

>If the D: drive is write protected, how do I delete a file from it or copy a file onto
it? I want to change the Topcard and keep getting the message that the drive is write
protected. I think I have solved this problem before but don't recall how.

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On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, Klukan wrote:
> What if the palmtop were to store the phonetics of the speech (sounds)
> and then convert them later?  What I mean is storing the syllable
> information (short a (a), long a (A); cheese -> chEz; chemistry -> kem i
> strE).  The program would not have to be so extensive and the
> information could be transferred to a desktop or notebook for
> conversion, which would be much faster, more efficient, and would have
> the advantage of using a dictionary of words, a fast processor, and lots
> of memory.  That just might work, and I have (I think) a program in
> BASIC that will work with phonetics.  A simple training program could be
> set up to recognize the different sounds (a, A, e, E, ch, k, st, etc.)
> and then the dictation program could listen and recognize the different
> patterns from the training information.  It actually might work!  Anyone
> who would be willing to explore this venture should post to this
> thread.  Later!

Being hard of hearing, this topic has always been near and dear to me.

I've heard before that the number of phonemes, that is the number of
sounds possible in human speech is actually quite limited (something on
the order of 50 I think...but don't quote me). It always seemed that a
phoneme-based dictation using a computer and a mike would be rather quick
and straight-forward.

Transciption could be done as you say, at the desktop, but also semi-
interactively (ie, during lull periods, the software can do look-ups and
replace recognized phonemes with words). At the worst case, you could end
up with a document that had a hodge-podge of words and phonemes, but it
would probably still be quite readable.

If I knew phonetics better, I might have done something with this. As it
is, I would have only rare use for this anyway, and even less time to
experiment....but it's an interesting thought. Seems like you'd be able to
caption any movie (maybe that's a business opportunity), or do
transcription (medical, legal or lectures).

Let me know when it's ready to market<g>.

- Longden

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On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 07:53:33 -0400, you wrote:

>If the D: drive is write protected, how do I delete a file from it or =
copy a file onto it? I want to change the Topcard and keep getting the =
message that the drive is write protected. I think I have solved this =
problem before but don't recall how.
>Thanks,
>Ken Moore
D: drive is a "Read Only Memory"  ROM.   It is programmed at the
factory so what you see is what you get..
Try to copy that topcard file to C: drive than using the same
filename.ext  make your changes.
You may find the 200LX will look for that file first in the C: drive
then if it don't find it look in the D: drive..
        73   Dean

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Jeremy

Sounds like you are on go to produce this product - with some very
interesting features.  I can't be sure from the description, but it sounds
like it might be possible to incorporate a magnifying lens - in case you
are very young, it may not occur to you that some of us geezers have to put
on reading glasses to use our palmtops.

I have looked at the accessories for Nintendo Gameboys - a light and
magnifier combo and wondered why nobody made one for the palmtop.  I'm glad
you are tackling the light and hope you can add a magnifying option.

Good luck with your product - I'm looking forward to seeing it.

Mike

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Julie Strietelmeier wrote:

> Jeremy, what does pseudo-backlight mean exactly?
>
> Julie
------------CLIP
A pseudo-backlight (in this case) means that it mimics the operation of
a true backlight, but is not really one.  This light fits over the
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Okay... assuming we can get the software to work on the 200LX, what sort of
hardware can we use to get the sound into the 200LX?  The original post
mentioned something about a Sound Blaster, but how could that work?  I don't
think any of the existing PC Card sound cards will work in the 200LX, either.
Maybe the "Voice Recorder" documents on SUPER?

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Are there A/D channels available for this use?

I assume A/D is used to measure battery voltage.  Maybe there is a spare channel?

--- On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 07:29:44 -0700  David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM> wrote:

>Okay... assuming we can get the software to work on the 200LX, what sort of
>hardware can we use to get the sound into the 200LX?  The original post
>mentioned something about a Sound Blaster, but how could that work?  I don't
>think any of the existing PC Card sound cards will work in the 200LX, either.
>Maybe the "Voice Recorder" documents on SUPER?
>
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Ok, is this thread a place to voice aloud a dream?  If so...

I dream of a palmtop (OS or no OS) with the capability of accepting its
entire operating system/processor on a PCMCIA card.  This way, you could
buy a palmtop with the user features you wanted (or could afford) and
decide as needed what OS you used.  Example, my HP gets used for
diagnostic work on systems requiring DOS based communications
applications (as well as being used for the usual APPMGR stuff), however
I would like to see a future that does not exclude these special purpose
applications.

[dream mode off]

Phil

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At 04:51 PM 9/22/97 -0400, Sascha Brodsky <Sabrodsky@AOL.COM> wrote:
>I'm looking for a HP100lx. Thanks

  I have one I'm willing to part with.  It's a fresh refurb direct from HP.
My old one was having some problems so I sent it to HP and got this one
back.  In the meantime, a friend sold me a 200lx unit that he didn't need...

  So, I've got what's essentialy a brand new HP-100lx (2meg) in perfect
condition that I was saving for a backup, but I really don't need it.  This
is as close to a brand-new 2meg 100LX as you're going to find anywhere.

  Make me an offer....

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Phil Drummond wrote:

> I dream of a palmtop (OS or no OS) with the capability of accepting
> its
> entire operating system/processor on a PCMCIA card.  This way, you
> could

I tried a while back to load DOS 6.22 on a PCMCIA card and boot it.  But
unfortunately, it seems that the 200LX is hard-wired to boot to its ROM
DOS.  Which brings up the next point: does anyone know if the ROM is
built in to the Hornet chip, or if it's a separate IC?

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I was wondering, since Ace Technologies have officially closed down, is there a way
for their previous programs to be freely distributed? I am curious on what they carried
(coz I became part of the HP Users only AFTER they closed down.....). Hope someone
can figure this out.
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Hi:
That sounds good but I am looking for a fairly low-end unit because of
cost-I'd like to pay about $100.
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On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, Nicholas Chan wrote:

> I was wondering, since Ace Technologies have officially closed down, is
> there a way for their previous programs to be freely distributed? I am
> curious on what they carried (coz I became part of the HP Users only
> AFTER they closed down.....). Hope someone can figure this out.  ...

This issue developed into quite a thread back in the old list-group around
January.

The result seemed to be "no", you can't freely distribute their software
which are still copyrighted and, to quote a post from that time:

"Copyrights do eventually expire, but computers are young enough that
that hasn't started happening yet for any useful programs. For works
created after January 1, 1978, the term is the life of the author plus
50 years (for individual works); or either 75 years from first
publication or 100 years from first creation (for works for hire)."

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Longden C. Loo wrote:

> The result seemed to be "no", you can't freely distribute their
> software
> which are still copyrighted and, to quote a post from that time:

Personally, I think that once the company goes out of business so you
can't get support on the product, it should be public domain.  It's
legal, but not fair, to sell software and then not provide support for
it; hence, it should be legal to violate the copyright, since the entity
that owned the copyright (in this case, Ace Technologies) no longer
exists.  On the other hand, if the program was copyrighted by an
individual who just happened to sell it through Ace, then it should
remain copyrighted.  But let's hear other opinions!
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I agree with David.  Once the software's no longer supported, it should be
released to the Public Domain, unless the manufacturer or another entity
wishes to pick up the copyright and sell the software.  A good example of
this is Windows 3.0.  I may want to install this on my palmtop, and my
buddy may want a copy.  If I give him a copy, technically I'm breaking the
law.  However, Micro$oft doesn't support it (they even act like they never
made it), and they aren't receiving revenue from it any longer.  So why
can't I give away a copy?  I'm certainly not taking money out of Mr. Gates'
hands, since he doesn't offer the software for sale anyway.  There's a term
floating around on the internet that encompasses this principle, and it's
called "abandonware".  For more information on abandonware, as well as
sites to download abandonware, check out
http://boxotrix.it-ias.depaul.edu/abandonware/

The gentleman who runs the web site has a huge disclaimer that explains the
abandonware concept in detail.  He even had old copies of Sierra games
available for download, until Sierra On-Line asked him to remove them as
they are still offering them for sale on their web page.  He complied and
Sierra left him alone after that.

Just my 2 cents,
Bill




At 12:35 PM 9/23/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Personally, I think that once the company goes out of business so you
>can't get support on the product, it should be public domain.  It's
>legal, but not fair, to sell software and then not provide support for
>it; hence, it should be legal to violate the copyright, since the entity
>that owned the copyright (in this case, Ace Technologies) no longer
>exists.  On the other hand, if the program was copyrighted by an
>individual who just happened to sell it through Ace, then it should
>remain copyrighted.  But let's hear other opinions!
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Good question.  Makes me want to dig out my developer's kit and re-read
it.

Phil

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>
>
>I tried a while back to load DOS 6.22 on a PCMCIA card and boot it.  But
>unfortunately, it seems that the 200LX is hard-wired to boot to its ROM
>DOS.  Which brings up the next point: does anyone know if the ROM is
>built in to the Hornet chip, or if it's a separate IC?
>
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Hawkes,

What do you think of the Nokia 9000. It looks good, but how functional is
it? etc.
Your the first person Ive seen who has one. <g>

Thanks,

Dan
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> Date: Tuesday, September 23, 1997 1:51 AM
>
> Due to a recent change to a Nokia 9000 Communicator I have the following
HP200LX for
> sale.    The unit was purchased from Rundel Datentechnik for < 1900DM and
is
> only 9 months old.
>
> 1 - HP200LX 2M English Version
> 1 - 2Meg SanDisk Flash Card
> 1 - HP Connectivity Pack
> 1 - Leather Wallet
> 1 - ABC/LX Battery Voltage Software
> 1 - Itellilink Software
> 1 - UK Power Adapter
> 1 - Swiss Power Adapter
>
> NiMH Batteries fitted.
>
> Reasonable offers accepted.
>
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>
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> Okay... assuming we can get the software to work on the 200LX, what sort of
> hardware can we use to get the sound into the 200LX?  The original post
> mentioned something about a Sound Blaster, but how could that work?

Some of the Sound Blaster sound cards - from *very* early on - included
an A-to-D converter for capturing sound. These early cards would work with
early XT's <g>. Hopefully, the PCMCIA versions included the A-to-D
converter...

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> >From:  David N Sargeant[SMTP:istate@ANV.NET]
> >
> >I tried a while back to load DOS 6.22 on a PCMCIA card and boot it.  But
> >unfortunately, it seems that the 200LX is hard-wired to boot to its ROM
> >DOS.  Which brings up the next point: does anyone know if the ROM is
> >built in to the Hornet chip, or if it's a separate IC?

> Good question.  Makes me want to dig out my developer's kit and re-read
> it.
> Phil

Would this also be relevant to booting ELKS (the linux for XT's)?

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     Hi!
     Yes, no matter what you do the 200LX will always boot from d:

     Helmut in Colorado


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> >From:  David N Sargeant[SMTP:istate@ANV.NET]
> >
> >I tried a while back to load DOS 6.22 on a PCMCIA card and boot it.  But
> >unfortunately, it seems that the 200LX is hard-wired to boot to its ROM
> >DOS.  Which brings up the next point: does anyone know if the ROM is
> >built in to the Hornet chip, or if it's a separate IC?

> Good question.  Makes me want to dig out my developer's kit and re-read
> it.
> Phil

Would this also be relevant to booting ELKS (the linux for XT's)?

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> > What if the palmtop were to store the phonetics of the speech (sounds)
> > and then convert them later?

Separating computation into (1) sound capture & phoneme recognition; and
(2) phoneme-to-text translation is a great idea! A specific problem with
this is addressed in the second half of this post; but first some
general thoughts <g>:

---

Phonemes take up less memory themselves, and would not need the huge
dictionaries and processing required by phoneme-to-text translation.
This fits nicely with the palmtop's great portability, and modest
computation power. Though I suppose one could say

        "Why not use a dictaphone, and plug *that* into your
         desktop computer for processing? That would be an equally good
         division between portability and power, wouldn't it? Heh, heh, heh"

I'm not sure about that, but it would have a much lower "Gee-whiz factor",
wouldn't it? And maybe the hplx could manage some useful phoneme-to-text
translation itself. Thus, the (1) and (2) separation would still be useful.

---

> It always seemed that a phoneme-based dictation using a computer and
> a mike would be rather quick and straight-forward.
Yes, my friend Mike agrees, but he gets bored rather easily <g>

Actually, speech recognition is one of those problems that is always
harder than everyone expected. Even when taking this into account.

Our familiarity with written text is deceptive: we are accustomed to
seeing words written down clearly and distinctly, where there is no question
of the phonemes making up the words. "Accustomed", for example. We hear
speech in a similar way, but that is after the miracle of human perception:
there are actually no pauses between words in speech; and many phonemes are
distinguishable only by context.

And context is the key to speech recognition: a human listener has an
extraordinarily good idea of what a speaker will say next, and sometimes
mis-hearing is due to unexpected words, rather than the straightforward
sound transmission problem that it seems: eg

        "*What* did you just say!!?"

If you are not on the same wavelength with someone, it can be very
difficult to understand their words.

---

But, there is a solution to all this! Firstly, you pause between words,
as has been mentioned already; and secondly, instead of your program
recording a single best-guess at the phoneme uttered, record several
of its best guesses: a probability distribution over all phonemes. eg

        'e' 50%; 'a' 25%; 'E' 25%       (ignoring conditional probabilities:
                                         that is the job of phase (2)!)

This provides more information for the phoneme-to-text phase, and is also
a better model of phoneme recognition itself: rarely would a phoneme
perfectly match one of the 50 (or so). This would still use much less
memory than recording the samples directly, one of the qualities we seek.

Then, the phoneme-to-text translator could choose the best fit between the
inputted phonemes and the phonemes that make up the words in its
dictionary. A more sophisticated model could distinguish between words
based on their ordering, to disambiguate homonyms, for example, which
could not be otherwise differentiated: eg "to", "too", "two", "2", "tu".


Brendan
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Peniel Romanelli wrote about the ZX81:

Ah, it's good to hear of another programmer of that tiny wedge of black
plastic <g>

> About 15 years ago ... on the old Sinclair ZX81 ...
... in a galaxy far, far away ...

> One thing about programming on the little Sinclair was that with a
> 4MHz Z-80 processor and 16K of RAM you HAD to learn efficient coding
> to accomplish anything.

Don't forget that the Z-80 was also the video driver, so you only got
a quarter of that speed if you wanted to see something happening! (SLOW
mode). So it's no surprise that the Zx81 emulator runs many times
faster on the hp200lx than a real zx81 does itself -
        "The ZX81 - slower than an XT"

Brendan
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> Brendan Macmillan wrote:
> > I've had far too many coffees this morning, so I had these ideas. Enjoy!
>
> Man, those Australian coffees must have some kick!  :)

Half coffee, half vegemite.

<g>

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> Sounds like you are on go to produce this product - with some very
> interesting features.  I can't be sure from the description, but it sounds
> like it might be possible to incorporate a magnifying lens - in case you
> are very young, it may not occur to you that some of us geezers have to put
> on reading glasses to use our palmtops.

Yes! Why not a "fresnel" lens? (with thanks to the several learned
corrections)

> I have looked at the accessories for Nintendo Gameboys - a light and
> magnifier combo and wondered why nobody made one for the palmtop.  I'm glad
> you are tackling the light and hope you can add a magnifying option.
>
> Good luck with your product - I'm looking forward to seeing it.
>
> Mike

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Michael R. Melancon wrote:

> Jeremy
>
> Sounds like you are on go to produce this product - with some very
> interesting features.  I can't be sure from the description, but it
> sounds
> like it might be possible to incorporate a magnifying lens - in case
> you
> are very young, it may not occur to you that some of us geezers have
> to put
> on reading glasses to use our palmtops.
>
> I have looked at the accessories for Nintendo Gameboys - a light and
> magnifier combo and wondered why nobody made one for the palmtop.  I'm
> glad
> you are tackling the light and hope you can add a magnifying option.
>
> Good luck with your product - I'm looking forward to seeing it.
>
> Mike
>
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> Sent:   Monday, September 22, 1997 10:06 PM
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> Subject:        Re: Pseudo-Backlight [was: Backlight?]
>
> Julie Strietelmeier wrote:
>
> > Jeremy, what does pseudo-backlight mean exactly?
> >
> > Julie
> ------------CLIP
> A pseudo-backlight (in this case) means that it mimics the operation
> of
> a true backlight, but is not really one.  This light fits over the
> existing screen and makes it look like a backlight.
> ------------CLIP
> -Jeremy
>  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/9861/

I will look into it.  I think I can get fresnel lenses for a fairly good
price.  I'll let you know.  I got my palmtop today and tried to use one
type of plastic for the backlight but it scratched too easily.  I will
try to find something that won't scratch easily (this is supposed to be
a high quality product!).  Later!

-Jeremy
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David Sargeant wrote:

> Okay... assuming we can get the software to work on the 200LX, what
> sort of
> hardware can we use to get the sound into the 200LX?  The original
> post
> mentioned something about a Sound Blaster, but how could that work?  I
> don't
> think any of the existing PC Card sound cards will work in the 200LX,
> either.
> Maybe the "Voice Recorder" documents on SUPER?
>
> --
> Visit the HP200LX pages at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

It shouldn't be too hard to build an adaptor that plugs into the serial
port.  It could have a port for a microphone, or a mic built in.  That
will be the easy part!

-Jeremy
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David N Sargeant wrote:

> Phil Drummond wrote:
>
> > I dream of a palmtop (OS or no OS) with the capability of accepting
> > its
> > entire operating system/processor on a PCMCIA card.  This way, you
> > could
>
> I tried a while back to load DOS 6.22 on a PCMCIA card and boot it.
> But
> unfortunately, it seems that the 200LX is hard-wired to boot to its
> ROM
> DOS.  Which brings up the next point: does anyone know if the ROM is
> built in to the Hornet chip, or if it's a separate IC?
>
> --
> Visit the HP200LX web pages at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

When the system boots (after a hard boot), press ALT when prompted.
>From there you can change the boot sequence.

-Jeremy

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Klukan wrote:

> When the system boots (after a hard boot), press ALT when prompted.
> From there you can change the boot sequence.

Yeah, but unfortunately that only changes were it loads config.sys and
autoexec.bat from (or if it loads them at all).  The basic system files are
always loaded from the ROM.  Even a PCMCIA card formatted with the /s
option doesn't boot it.

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David Sargeant wrote:

> Klukan wrote:
>
> > When the system boots (after a hard boot), press ALT when prompted.
> > From there you can change the boot sequence.
>
> Yeah, but unfortunately that only changes were it loads config.sys and
>
> autoexec.bat from (or if it loads them at all).  The basic system
> files are
> always loaded from the ROM.  Even a PCMCIA card formatted with the /s
> option doesn't boot it.
>
> --
> Visit the HP200LX pages at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

I was checking in the boot menu and I remember something about booting
from A: first.  If you have command.com, autoexec.bat, and config.sys on
A:, it should boot from there.  That is a DOS sort of thing.  Use the
SYS command to transfer the system to the flash card.  If it isn't on
the ROM, copy it from another DOS 5.0 machine (6.0 or 6.22 will not
work:  Incorrect Version).  That should work.  If not, then I guess you
are out of luck!

-Jeremy

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Klukan wrote:

> I was checking in the boot menu and I remember something about booting
> from A: first.  If you have command.com, autoexec.bat, and config.sys on
> A:, it should boot from there.  That is a DOS sort of thing.  Use the
> <snip>

Well, what I was trying to do was, make it so I could actually RUN dos 6.22
on the palmtop.  But IO.SYS, MSDOS.SYS, and COMMAND.COM are always loaded
from the ROM.  If you put config.sys and autoexec.bat on the A: drive,
though, those are the ones that will be processed.  Unfortunately, that's
not enough to allow us to run a newer version of DOS... so we'll just have
to desolder the ROM.  :)
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The latest version of OS/2 has built in speech recognition.  Requires a
32MB machine, pentium or faster.  May need to infuse 200lx with same
caffeine dose.
:)

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Is there a utility for converting GDB and NDB databases to comma
delimited text files?
Thanks,
Jay Gates

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        Those were just the Box-specs. People who have reported their
experiences with Voice Type Dictation have stated that not until RAM was
upgraded to 64 Meg. did usage of the swapfile drop to essentially nil, and
performance became acceptable.
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   OK, heres an idea:

   Take the built in memo, or PALEdit, and build an addon to
   easily create line drawings.

   With a predefined keystroke, the editor drops into draw mode.
   A drop down list of line styles appear, single, double, curved
   etc.

   Now the whole keyboard, except the leftmost and rightmost
   columns is mapped to the its corresponding location on the
   screen. You would treat the keyboard as a touch screen to
   create a simple line drawing.

   The lines would be linked from the last pen down position to
   the next position, as pressed on the keyboard.

   There would have to be a pen up/down key, menu key, exit/enter
   draw mode key, and scroll keys.

   Is this possible?

   Has anyone else got some good ideas for a simple facility to
   create line drawings inside an editor on the palmtop?

   David Eggins
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Has anyone tried GoodMood?

It's a very interesting program -- if you are depressed about something,
the program will help you pick up your spirits.  It's really deep; a weakness
is that it is a bit hard to read -- a little to pedantic.
Iit was written by a UCLS professor who
uses a lot of big words.  The program gives you a lesson (more like
a lecture) and then engages you in discussion.  You can type in
complete sentences and the program parses your input
and usually makes an appropriate "shrink" like response.  The Shrink will
break from the conversations now and then to lecture you about
psychogical depression theory.

It encourages you to think about your problem situation
in new ways.  You can print out your discussions with
the "shrink" for later study.

I'd like to see something like that on a WINCE machine.  Not likely!

You can get GoodMood (Item 15237) for $3.95 from Software Labs 800-569-7900
It is shareware, so it would be good to send a donation if you intend to
really use it
after trying it.  I could not find it on the Internet.

(I have no connection with Software Labs, except as a customer.)




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Date- Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:58:30 -0400 (EDT)
From- David Kramer <Dskramer@concentric.net>

On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, Bill Childers wrote:

> Date- Tue, 23 Sep 1997 12:53:07 -0700
> From- Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
>
> I agree with David.  Once the software's no longer supported, it should=
 be
> released to the Public Domain, unless the manufacturer or another=
 entity
> wishes to pick up the copyright and sell the software.  A good example=
 of
> this is Windows 3.0.  I may want to install this on my palmtop, and=
 my
> buddy may want a copy.  If I give him a copy, technically I'm breaking=
 the
> law.  However, Micro$oft doesn't support it (they even act like they=
 never



I think the logic is that they may not sell Windows 3.0 anymore, but=
 they
do sell competing products.  And if people pass around Windows 3.0,=
 some
people might use that for free instead of paying for Win95 or some other
version they still sell.

I'm not saying I agree with it, but this is what I've heard.

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Subject:      Two Questions re: Appt Book

I rely heavily on the Appt Book, and I have 2 questions:

1) Is there any kind of DOS browser available for it (like DBView)?  I
often find myself in MaxDOS sessions unable to view my calendar.

2) Our organization is likely moving to Lotus Organizer 97 / Lotus
Notes Scheduler for group scheduling.  Puma's ItelliSync does not work for
Org 97, only for 2.1.  Has anyone had any experience using Org 97 with the
HP?  Any way to download selected appts, for example?  I can live without
the sync feature, if I had to.  I know you can use Org 97 and IntelliSync
to work with Pilots and WinCE machines.  What are we, chopped liver?

Thanks.

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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 97 08:57:41
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It is possible that Ace might have sold licenses for their software to other vendors, who
now have the rights to the software.

Also, Ace may not be the exclusive licensee of the software.  Others may have rights that
would be infringed upon if the software where released to public domain.

--- On Wed, 24 Sep 1997 07:33:27 -0400  Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> wrote:

>Date- Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:58:30 -0400 (EDT)
>From- David Kramer <Dskramer@concentric.net>
>
>On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, Bill Childers wrote:
>
>> Date- Tue, 23 Sep 1997 12:53:07 -0700
>> From- Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
>>
>> I agree with David.  Once the software's no longer supported, it should be
>> released to the Public Domain, unless the manufacturer or another entity
>> wishes to pick up the copyright and sell the software.  A good example of
>> this is Windows 3.0.  I may want to install this on my palmtop, and my
>> buddy may want a copy.  If I give him a copy, technically I'm breaking the
>> law.  However, Micro$oft doesn't support it (they even act like they never
>
>
>
>I think the logic is that they may not sell Windows 3.0 anymore, but they
>do sell competing products.  And if people pass around Windows 3.0, some
>people might use that for free instead of paying for Win95 or some other
>version they still sell.
>
>I'm not saying I agree with it, but this is what I've heard.
>
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           9/24/97 8:57:41 AM EDT
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On Wed, 24 Sep 1997  Michael Stocker <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM> wrote:

> It is possible that Ace might have sold licenses for their software=
 to
> other vendors, who now have the rights to the software.

Yep.  Shier Systems is marketing MAGNIFY and possibly others. Check
with them to see what's available.

BTW ACE's FASTWRITE was a version of VDE. The latest version of VDE
(1.82 I think) is available on the SUPER site.

PR
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Print to file using a smart clip.  Set up a Smartclip with everything on
one line (no carrage returns/line feeds) put a comma between each
"field".  When printing, select all items, Custom Style (pick the
Smartclip you designed), and print to file.  I think this works, haven't
actually tried it, but I think it will work.

Phil

>----------
>From:  Jay Gates[SMTP:gates99@MEDCOR.MCGILL.CA]
>Sent:  Wednesday, September 24, 1997 1:35 AM
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>Is there a utility for converting GDB and NDB databases to comma
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An interesting concept. Something I would like for my class notetaking
where I sometimes need to copy down a simple chart or diagram.

I think there are enough keys on the LX where an entire row (and/or
column) can be made to perform special duty as menu and drawing function
keys.

The problem will be how to store this file which now has text and
graphics (after we find someone to make this program of course).

- Longden

On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, David Eggins wrote:

>    OK, heres an idea:
>
>    Take the built in memo, or PALEdit, and build an addon to
>    easily create line drawings.
>
>    With a predefined keystroke, the editor drops into draw mode.
>    A drop down list of line styles appear, single, double, curved
>    etc.
>
>    Now the whole keyboard, except the leftmost and rightmost
>    columns is mapped to the its corresponding location on the
>    screen. You would treat the keyboard as a touch screen to
>    create a simple line drawing.
>
>    The lines would be linked from the last pen down position to
>    the next position, as pressed on the keyboard.
>
>    There would have to be a pen up/down key, menu key, exit/enter
>    draw mode key, and scroll keys.
>
>    Is this possible?
>
>    Has anyone else got some good ideas for a simple facility to
>    create line drawings inside an editor on the palmtop?

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Another option is to use one of the utilities that read/write databases.

GDBIO is on the SUPER site, tho I don't believe it handles Note fields
(others will correct me if I'm wrong on this).

There's also GDB102 (aka GDBDUMP/GDBLOAD) at
ftp://ftp.cc.monash.edu.au/pub/palmtop/

I use this one since it handles Notes. Anyone here know why GDB102 isn't
on the SUPER site? It seems the more complete program, or does someone
have an opinion otherwise?

- Longden

On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:

> Print to file using a smart clip.  Set up a Smartclip with everything on
> one line (no carrage returns/line feeds) put a comma between each
> "field".  When printing, select all items, Custom Style (pick the
> Smartclip you designed), and print to file.  I think this works, haven't
> actually tried it, but I think it will work.

> >----------
> >From:  Jay Gates[SMTP:gates99@MEDCOR.MCGILL.CA]
> >Sent:  Wednesday, September 24, 1997 1:35 AM
> >To:    HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> >Subject:       GDB/NDB to TXT?
> >
> >Is there a utility for converting GDB and NDB databases to comma
> >delimited text files?

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     Hello,

     Has anyone had this problem with NEWS/LX?  Two of my 6 newsgroups will
     not successfully complete quickscan.  I have removed all the
     associated files, recreated the newsgroups through setup, even
     recreated them with different filenames, but am still having this
     problem.  The XOVER step goes fine and then:

     Done with XOVER request
     Message scanmode
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     Any help is appreciated.

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> > Klukan wrote:
> >
> > > When the system boots (after a hard boot), press ALT when prompted.
> > > From there you can change the boot sequence.
> >
> > Yeah, but unfortunately that only changes were it loads config.sys and
> >
> > autoexec.bat from (or if it loads them at all).  The basic system
> > files are
> > always loaded from the ROM.

I checked DOS 6.2. IO.sys, msdos.sys, and command.com sum 128k bytes.On the
100LX  D:  drive there is only a 1k command.com. So there aren't any files
to transfer to make a bootable device.


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I'm currently enrolled in a math class that requires a TI 85 graphing
calculator.
My first thought was that there has to be something far superior that is
available and runs on a 200LX.

If anyone has any personal favorites, please let me know what they are
and where I might find them.

Thank you,
.M

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My EXP 1414 LXM 4MB will dial out but would'nt connect to the other modem.
EXP Computer, INC. suspects that the HP 100LX is faulty and has requested
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Looking forward to your reply,
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Erling, Marshall N wrote:

> I'm currently enrolled in a math class that requires a TI 85 graphing
> calculator.
> My first thought was that there has to be something far superior that
> is
> available and runs on a 200LX.

Well, there's always Derive.  But it'll cost more than a TI-85 would,
and it's not as good for basic arithmetic and math functions.

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To anyone who's interested...
I've stumbled across a configuration of PC-Pine that works great on the HP
palmtop.  It uses the IMAP mail protocol... so you don't xfer the messages
across the wire, just the headers, until you choose to read them.
Unfortunately, it's an "on-line" mailer, and I don't think it can be used
"off-line".  However, it works well if you've got a UNIX shell account.  If
there's interest, I can post the version along with some support files
(packet driver, modem dialer, etc.) to SUPER.  One more thing, this version
of Pine can read and post to newsgroups as well.

Bill


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Erling, Marshall N wrote:

> I'm currently enrolled in a math class that requires a TI 85 graphing
> calculator.
> My first thought was that there has to be something far superior that
> is
> available and runs on a 200LX.
>
> If anyone has any personal favorites, please let me know what they are
>
> and where I might find them.
>
> Thank you,
> .M

I am looking for something of that sort also.  Since I haven't found
anything like a TI (especially the 92), I was planning on writing
something that would be fairly close.  The ability of the TI to run
programs might be elminated in the first version of this program, due to
the complexity and size of something needed to run programs.  I will
work on it as soon as I get done with my mail.

-Jeremy
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I've just uploaded the file to SUPER, pending Mitch's approval and posting.
 It's called HPPINE.ZIP.

Bill



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lotus 1-2-3 and/or solver should do just about anything.  what is it that
can't be done in lotus?

you may have to think through the set-up a little, but if you are in a class
...

for an idea of what lotus on the hp will do, down load the scientific lotus
templets on the super site, a load surface.wk1, and press f10.

cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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You could send it t the SUPER guys, but dont most UNIX shell accounts
already have PINE, ELM  already installed so you don't have to waste
valuable disk space. You can just use a terminal program to use them. I
do however like the Qua!-lx that can snag my mail and news from the
server and upload at the same time. Anyway, it's just my 2 cents worth.
Everybody have a great evening!

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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    **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC !!!**




On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, Bill Childers wrote:

> To anyone who's interested...
> I've stumbled across a configuration of PC-Pine that works great on the HP
> palmtop.  It uses the IMAP mail protocol... so you don't xfer the messages
> across the wire, just the headers, until you choose to read them.
> Unfortunately, it's an "on-line" mailer, and I don't think it can be used
> "off-line".  However, it works well if you've got a UNIX shell account.  If
> there's interest, I can post the version along with some support files
> (packet driver, modem dialer, etc.) to SUPER.  One more thing, this version
> of Pine can read and post to newsgroups as well.
>
> Bill
>
>
> Bill Childers
> Computer Consultant
> Novell Netware, Windows 95, Windows NT
> http://www.garlic.com/~childers
> childers@garlic.com
> Amateur Radio: KE6VVW
>
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At 01:26 PM 9/24/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Erling, Marshall N wrote:
>
>> I'm currently enrolled in a math class that requires a TI 85 graphing
>> calculator.
>> My first thought was that there has to be something far superior that
>> is
>> available and runs on a 200LX.
>
>Well, there's always Derive.  But it'll cost more than a TI-85 would,
>and it's not as good for basic arithmetic and math functions.
>
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I'm a new 200lx user who has owned a TI-92 calc for about a year and a half.
As far as I'm concerned the TI-92 rivals just about any calculator out there
(coming in close with the HP48GX).  As far as programs for the LX goes I'm
not so sure there are anything that are out there that would be price
competitive to and 85 (Walmart just had them on sale for $85).  I am a firm
believer in the mathematic capabilities of my 92 so just consider that as an
option.  Also, the new TI-86 which runs like the 85 but has assembly ability
built in is really cool too-about $120.

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Kevin Barnhart wrote:

> I'm a new 200lx user who has owned a TI-92 calc for about a year and a half.
> As far as I'm concerned the TI-92 rivals just about any calculator out there
> <snip>

 From what I've heard (from my calculus teacher last semester) the TI-92
software is by Soft Warehouse, the same company that made Derive.  So if you
want software that acts like the TI-92, Derive is the way to go.  Unfortunately,
the lack of dedicated keys on the 200LX limits its usefulness as a calculator.
What we need is a calculator program that redefines the keyboard and comes with
a keyboard overlay.  Then we'd have a calculator program to rival the TI series,
the HP48, or any other calculator.

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David Sargeant wrote:

> Kevin Barnhart wrote:
>
> > I'm a new 200lx user who has owned a TI-92 calc for about a year and
> a half.
> > As far as I'm concerned the TI-92 rivals just about any calculator
> out there
> > <snip>
>
>  From what I've heard (from my calculus teacher last semester) the
> TI-92
> software is by Soft Warehouse, the same company that made Derive.  So
> if you
> want software that acts like the TI-92, Derive is the way to go.
> Unfortunately,
> the lack of dedicated keys on the 200LX limits its usefulness as a
> calculator.
> What we need is a calculator program that redefines the keyboard and
> comes with
> a keyboard overlay.  Then we'd have a calculator program to rival the
> TI series,
> the HP48, or any other calculator.
>
> --
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>
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I have been trying to write a program for this (for the past hour or so)
but I am having trouble with CGA.  Since you can only have two colors
with BASIC's screen mode 2, it is very hard to generate different colors
or differentiations between different areas.  I am also having trouble
accessing foreground and background colors in BASIC (I am currently
working with QB4.5 but QBasic will produce the same results) for text.
I will look into this but if I have to do everything through pixel
manipulations the size of the program will be fairly substantial.

-Jeremy

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David Sargeant wrote:

> Kevin Barnhart wrote:
>
> > I'm a new 200lx user who has owned a TI-92 calc for about a year and
> a half.
> > As far as I'm concerned the TI-92 rivals just about any calculator
> out there
> > <snip>
>
>  From what I've heard (from my calculus teacher last semester) the
> TI-92
> software is by Soft Warehouse, the same company that made Derive.  So
> if you
> want software that acts like the TI-92, Derive is the way to go.
> Unfortunately,
> the lack of dedicated keys on the 200LX limits its usefulness as a
> calculator.
> What we need is a calculator program that redefines the keyboard and
> comes with
> a keyboard overlay.  Then we'd have a calculator program to rival the
> TI series,
> the HP48, or any other calculator.
>
> --
> Visit the HP200LX pages at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

Hey, everyone!
    I just found the HP's built-in graphing functions.  It is in the HP
Calc under the Applications menu.  The solver will graph functions quite
well.

-Jeremy

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>    Now the whole keyboard, except the leftmost and rightmost
>    columns is mapped to the its corresponding location on the
>    screen. You would treat the keyboard as a touch screen to
>    create a simple line drawing.

This is a cool idea! I had a similar idea once: you treat the entire hplx
keyboard as a touch pad (like those on some laptops). If your finger
starts at the bottom of the keyboard, and moves up, this is registered
as upward movement. Thus, we have a simple pointing device.

Run your finger across the hplx keyboard - it's quite smooth? You couldn't
do that on a 'proper' keyboard.

Or, we can take pressure information from the number of keys depressed
- this is very important if you ever want to simulate charcoal drawing,
to give shades of grey (best if pixelatted) varying with pressure.


Of course, such gross, sloppy 'natural' control where the whole keyboard is
active would require a very special sequence to toggle that mode!

I also suspect that the keyboard cannot register so many keys at once ...

Brendan

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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> >    Now the whole keyboard, except the leftmost and rightmost
> >    columns is mapped to the its corresponding location on the
> >    screen. You would treat the keyboard as a touch screen to
> >    create a simple line drawing.

On the other hand, wouldn't it be easier just to hook up a serial pointing
device?  Speaking of which... the Cirque Easy Cat is pretty small, just right
for the 200LX.  It's also supposed to work with a standard Microsoft mouse
driver, when hooked up to a serial port.  It works immediately when I swap it
for my mouse on my desktop.  But unfortunately, when I replace a mouse (which
works fine) on the 200LX with this touchpad, it suddenly moves the pointer up
to the upper right corner of the screen and stays there.  Anybody have any
ideas?


> This is a cool idea! I had a similar idea once: you treat the entire hplx
> keyboard as a touch pad (like those on some laptops). If your finger
> starts at the bottom of the keyboard, and moves up, this is registered
> as upward movement. Thus, we have a simple pointing device.
>
> Run your finger across the hplx keyboard - it's quite smooth? You couldn't
> do that on a 'proper' keyboard.
>
> Or, we can take pressure information from the number of keys depressed
> - this is very important if you ever want to simulate charcoal drawing,
> to give shades of grey (best if pixelatted) varying with pressure.
>
> Of course, such gross, sloppy 'natural' control where the whole keyboard is
> active would require a very special sequence to toggle that mode!
>
> I also suspect that the keyboard cannot register so many keys at once ...
>
> Brendan
>
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Quinton Jones JR wrote:
>
> My EXP 1414 LXM 4MB will dial out but would'nt connect to the other modem.
> EXP Computer, INC. suspects that the HP 100LX is faulty and has requested
> that the unit be sent to them with the modem for testing. Because this will
> the second exchange for the same problem.
> Has any one experienced this problem?
>
> Looking forward to your reply,
> Qman
>
Hi Quinton,
try to connect to a mailbox or other computer modem. I guess that it's
not a fault of the LX, because dial out is ok. So the driver is working
and all the other handshake seem to be ok.
Check also for modem parameters that are responsible during negotiation.
Kindly regards

Ulrich Ringwald

email: ulrichr@karlsruhe.sgi.com

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I have nearly the same problem as you and i got this answer from D&A
support:

It sounds like the server that provides the news articles does
not function well.

Change the order of downloading of newsarticles.

  (: Avi M. :) [D&A]


But it's still not work?????


Michael

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Erling, Marshall N wrote:
>
> I'm currently enrolled in a math class that requires a TI 85 graphing
> calculator.
> My first thought was that there has to be something far superior that is
> available and runs on a 200LX.
>
> If anyone has any personal favorites, please let me know what they are
> and where I might find them.
>
> Thank you,
> .M

A few years ago I appreciated using a program called Calculus Calculator
(I think the issue was CC4). Really great. May be still available on
some shareware server, but don't know where...
Hope this helps.

Regards,

Pierre

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On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 21:36:24 -0700, you wrote:

>Well, what I was trying to do was, make it so I could actually RUN dos =
6.22
>on the palmtop.  But IO.SYS, MSDOS.SYS, and COMMAND.COM are always =
loaded
>from the ROM.  If you put config.sys and autoexec.bat on the A: drive,
>though, those are the ones that will be processed.  Unfortunately, =
that's
>not enough to allow us to run a newer version of DOS... so we'll just =
have
>to desolder the ROM.  :)

Someone with a little determination could fairly easily write a
loader.

--=20
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Phil Drummond writes:
 > Ok, is this thread a place to voice aloud a dream?  If so...
 >
 > I dream of a palmtop (OS or no OS) with the capability of accepting its
 > entire operating system/processor on a PCMCIA card.  This way, you could
 > buy a palmtop with the user features you wanted (or could afford) and
 > decide as needed what OS you used.  Example, my HP gets used for
 > diagnostic work on systems requiring DOS based communications
 > applications (as well as being used for the usual APPMGR stuff), however
 > I would like to see a future that does not exclude these special purpose
 > applications.
 >
 > [dream mode off]
 >
 > Phil
I don't see why this couldn't be pulled off with our current product.
If somebody would design a PCMCIA card with ARM(or other low power
risc cpu), memory, and eeprom.  The arm could run a port of a Java OS
that would be loaded into the eeprom.  The 80186 would be used to
communicate with the rest of the system(serial ports, keyboard, system
ram, screen, and keyboard).

I bet you could make Java run fast enough on an ARM cpu to be useful,
and still fit in the 150mA requirement.

Maybe this is better done with a WinCE machine?  Some of them have a
seperate CompactFlash port that could fit upto 15MB of flash.  Then
you would have the pcmcia card handle the cpu, and the system ram.

Any computer hardware designers out there that could pull this one
off?

Doug


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Erling, Marshall N wrote:
>
> I'm currently enrolled in a math class that requires a TI 85 graphing
> calculator.
> My first thought was that there has to be something far superior that is
> available and runs on a 200LX.
>
> If anyone has any personal favorites, please let me know what they are
> and where I might find them.
>
> Thank you,
> .M
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Did you take a look at EX? You can find this program at
http://www.freeflight.com/wrotniak/hpsoft.html?

John Cobb

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unknown wrote:
>
> Phil Drummond writes:
>  > Ok, is this thread a place to voice aloud a dream?  If so...
>  >
>  > I dream of a palmtop (OS or no OS) with the capability of accepting its
>  > entire operating system/processor on a PCMCIA card.  This way, you could
>  > buy a palmtop with the user features you wanted (or could afford) and
>  > decide as needed what OS you used.  Example, my HP gets used for
>  > diagnostic work on systems requiring DOS based communications
>  > applications (as well as being used for the usual APPMGR stuff), however
>  > I would like to see a future that does not exclude these special purpose
>  > applications.
>  >
>  > [dream mode off]
>  >
>  > Phil
> I don't see why this couldn't be pulled off with our current product.
> If somebody would design a PCMCIA card with ARM(or other low power
> risc cpu), memory, and eeprom.  The arm could run a port of a Java OS

There is already a complete PC Mainboard on PCMCIA. Look for
http://www.pfu.co.jp/e_sales/e_pd2100.html
If this thing works, one could build a completely modular palmtop.

At the moment I see a disadvantage: There won't be these handy little
function
keys anymore that make the 100/200LX a good thing.


Ruediger

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        From owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU  Wed Sep 24 18:00:47 1997
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        To anyone who's interested...
        I've stumbled across a configuration of PC-Pine that works great on the HP
        palmtop.  It uses the IMAP mail protocol... so you don't xfer the messages
        across the wire, just the headers, until you choose to read them.
        Unfortunately, it's an "on-line" mailer, and I don't think it can be used
        "off-line".  However, it works well if you've got a UNIX shell account.  If
        there's interest, I can post the version along with some support files
        (packet driver, modem dialer, etc.) to SUPER.  One more thing, this version
        of Pine can read and post to newsgroups as well.

        Bill


Sounds great! Tell me more...

David Satterfield
Sun Microsystems, Inc.            Phone:     (508) 442-2669
5 Omni Way, MS UCHL05-105         Fax:       (508) 442-1612
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Simtel (www.cdrom.com) has these:

cc4_9206.zip  B  273235  920607  Calculus learning tool & graphing calculator
azmath1.zip   B  447940  891112  Pre-Calculus/Calculus math review
jkmath14.zip  B  489457  941031  Matrices;graphs/calculus;probability;RPN
calc.

Pierre VIGNACQ wrote:

> Erling, Marshall N wrote:
> >
> > I'm currently enrolled in a math class that requires a TI 85 graphing
> > calculator.
> > My first thought was that there has to be something far superior that is
> > available and runs on a 200LX.
>
>
> A few years ago I appreciated using a program called Calculus Calculator
> (I think the issue was CC4). Really great. May be still available on
> some shareware server, but don't know where...
> Hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre
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From: Bruce Martin@MANULIFE on 09/25/97 11:10 AM

There wouldn't be a problem storing the file, because it would be all text
-- no graphics. The drawn portion would be made up of ASCII "line drawing"
characters, as was the case with many DOS "screen design" programs of the
'80s. Sort of like

Perhaps the best example of this I ever saw was PAINT.COM, one of the many
PC Tools from Ziff-Davis' PC Magazine. It's fast, easy and very very tiny.
Unfortunately it seems to barf on the HPLX's slightly non-standard way of
handling the cursor keys, which are used to draw the lines.

I agree this would be a real boon to HPLX users! Imagine whipping up quick
charts, diagrams, even maps that you could store in the Notes sections of
Address Book, Note Taker or Database (because after all they're just text)!

Is there anyone here who can program assembler and who could take a look at
modifying this little gem to work on the HPLX?

On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, Longden C. Loo wrote:
<snip>
>    The problem will be how to store this file which now has text and
>    graphics (after we find someone to make this program of course).

On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, David Eggins wrote:
>>    OK, heres an idea:
>>
>>    Take the built in memo, or PALEdit, and build an addon to
>>    easily create line drawings.
<snip>
>>    Has anyone else got some good ideas for a simple facility to
>>    create line drawings inside an editor on the palmtop?

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Klukan wrote:

When the system boots (after a hard boot), press ALT when prompted.
>From there you can change the boot sequence.

David Sargeant wrote:

Yeah, but unfortunately that only changes were it loads config.sys and
autoexec.bat from (or if it loads them at all).  The basic system files
are
always loaded from the ROM.  Even a PCMCIA card formatted with the /s
option doesn't boot it.

I'm adding:

Dave's right--by the time you get to that boot sequence menu, the
machine is already WAY booted; it's only asking you which set of
start-up files to execute (config.sys, autoexec.bat).  The O/S and
command interpreter are already loaded and running.

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From:         Roy Stroud <Agentrapid@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Versa Pad Hookup?

Anyone ever try this? Thoughts and ideas about using this product. Could
solve the problem related to drawing. Made by Interlink Electronics E-Mail?
They also make a
VersaPoint Wireless Keyboard using "Broadbeam Infrared Technology"  Hmmm?
Found this info in the Micro Warehouse Cat. Page 156.
Thanks for your input.
Roy

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David Runge@AIRTOUCH
09/25/97 02:45 PM

INDEX HPLX-L

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I discovered that the TI-85 has a z80 processor and that an emulator
exists!
I have an actual ti85 so I can legally dump the roms and give it a shot.
I do not
Have any idea whether the emulator will work on an LX.  The docs are a
bit scant.
If nothing else, getting connectivity between an LX and a TI would be
nice.
Btw: there are tons of games for the ti85 too.

http://www.wpi.edu/~poder/emulator.html
There's the site for the emulator in case anyone else has the urge to
check out the possibilities of getting the emulator running on their LX.

.M

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Is there a mailing list for the 300 series. It seems a little light in this
one. Any web sites devoted to these machines?

Thanks for the help.


<mailto:dalpert@doitnow.com>
<http://www.doitnow.com/~dalpert>

Do you have change for a paradigm?
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When I get a little money, I buy books;
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                Erasmus

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                Groucho

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Subject:      ata card driver

i have two cards which run fine on my hp200lx, but are not recognized by my
wife's 100lx.  they are a viking 5v ata card, and the pny 8meg ata card from
sears.

two other cards (an hp flash and an hp sram) run just fine on the 100lx.  it
seems to be a driver problem.  does anyone have a driver which will solve
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thanks,

lynn m. cavendish
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You might want to try the following newsgroup:

alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp

This group seems to be focusing more and more on WinCE as time goes by.

--- On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 16:50:31 -0700  Dave Alpert <dalpert@DOITNOW.COM> wrote:

>Is there a mailing list for the 300 series. It seems a little light in this
>one. Any web sites devoted to these machines?
>
>Thanks for the help.
>
>
><mailto:dalpert@doitnow.com>
><http://www.doitnow.com/~dalpert>
>
>Do you have change for a paradigm?
>               author unknown
>
>When I get a little money, I buy books;
>And, if any is left, I buy food and clothes.
>                Erasmus
>
>Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend,
>inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
>                Groucho
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     Hi!
     Try www.windosce.com.
     Why buy a HP320LX or any winCE machine I never know.
     Lot's of lock there. They are a punch of people who keep on hoping for
     something better but it does not come until Win CE ver 999.

     Helmut in Colorado


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Is there a mailing list for the 300 series. It seems a little light in this
one. Any web sites devoted to these machines?

Thanks for the help.


<mailto:dalpert@doitnow.com>
<http://www.doitnow.com/~dalpert>

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               author unknown

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I have included the text found on SUPER relating to pine and two
utilities (netdial and epppd)
Could somebody please tell me about those apps and where I can find
them?

Thanks,
.M

Pine (555 K) added 09/25/97
Version 3.91 by University of Washington

Pine is a classic emailer and newsreader that will work on the HP
100/200LX with Netdial/EPPPD to send and receive email
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At 12:07 PM 9/25/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I discovered that the TI-85 has a z80 processor and that an emulator
>exists!
>I have an actual ti85 so I can legally dump the roms and give it a shot.
>I do not
>Have any idea whether the emulator will work on an LX.  The docs are a
>bit scant.
>If nothing else, getting connectivity between an LX and a TI would be
>nice.
>Btw: there are tons of games for the ti85 too.
>
>http://www.wpi.edu/~poder/emulator.html
>There's the site for the emulator in case anyone else has the urge to
>check out the possibilities of getting the emulator running on their LX.
>
>.M
I've tried connectivity between my LX and my TI-92, but haven't been able to
get it to work.  I've been using the gray graphlink cable+male to male
serial+hp connectivity cable.  Let me know if anyone gets this to work.

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From:         Mark Jordan <mjordan@MAIL.COM>
Subject:      Windows NT & LapLink

I've been thru palmtop.net's and Al Kinds message archives and am
unable to find any direct referneces regarding the use of LapLink (DOS
or Windows version) between my Windows NT PC and HP 200LX.

I was wondering if anyone has had any success in doing this, either
with the Windows version that comes with the Connectivity Pack, or by
transfering the LLRA files from the HP to the PC and connecting that
way.

With the DOS version. every time I try, I can't seem to get a
connection thru the port even though the LLRA TSR's seem to execute OK.

And when I try with the Windows version, I get an error message (can't
remember right off hand what it is).

Anyone have any luck with NT? I've gotten both versions to work with
Windows 95 fine... just not NT.

Thanks.

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I have two friends who are interested in purchasing HP 200LXs.  Please
E-Mail me personally if you have one available.  Thanks!

-Jeremy

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From:         Rob Blasdel <dlr.pub.grp@MEDIASOFT.NET>
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Transfer all the files from LLRA to a seperate directory on the PC using
the Data Comm program. (You ddon't need ALL the files , but I have
forgotten which ones are needed do copy them all unless someone out
there can tell us just the ones needed.) Change the Ttsi.ini file (on
the PC) to reflect the settings of your tranfer cable. Mine are as
follows:

[General]
ComputerName=PC

[Redirector]
Enabled=Yes
Sound=Yes
REM EnableAtPowerUp=Yes
EnabledTimeout=0
ConnectionTimeout=10
Private=B

[COM2]
Enabled.Redir=Yes
Type=Wire
Baud=0
TransferMode=Best
IRQ=4
Address=3F8

Then change everything in the LLRA.bat file (again this is on the PC) to
reflect the proper directory and drive on your machine. My LLRA.bat is
run from the F: drive and is as follows:

echo off

if not exist F:\llrapc\llra1.exe goto NOFILES
if not exist F:\llrapc\llra2.exe goto NOFILES
if not exist F:\llrapc\llra3.exe goto NOFILES

F:\llrapc\llra2 /# %1

if errorlevel 3 goto LLCMD
if errorlevel 2 goto UNINSTC
if errorlevel 1 goto UNINSTNC

F:\llrapc\llra1
F:\llrapc\llra2
F:\llrapc\llra3 %1 %2 %3
if errorlevel 1 goto END
if not exist F:\llrapc\llra4.exe goto end
F:\llrapc\llra4
goto END

:NOFILES
echo
echo Cannot run LapLink Remote Access because one (or more) files are
missing.
echo
goto END

:LLCMD
F:\llrapc\llra3 %1
goto END

:UNINSTC
F:\llrapc\llra4 /u
:UNINSTNC
F:\llrapc\llra3 /u
if errorlevel 1 goto END
F:\llrapc\llra2 /u
F:\llrapc\llra1 /u

:END
echo

Connect the 200LX to the PC and start the 200LX LapLink program. Go to
the directory on the PC where the LLRA files reside and run the LLRA.bat
file. Both machines should give a series of tones indicating each is on
line.

On the PC, type LLRA /M [enter] to get a map of drive letters. The PC is
the client. Then use any decent file manager, obviously DOS, to transfer
files back and forth. I use an ancient Word Perfect File Manager, dated
6-14-90, that works great.

Rob Blasdel

> Subject: Windows NT & LapLink
> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 23:05:48 -0400
> From: Mark Jordan <mjordan@MAIL.COM>
>
> I've been thru palmtop.net's and Al Kinds message archives and am
> unable to find any direct referneces regarding the use of LapLink (DOS
> or Windows version) between my Windows NT PC and HP 200LX.
>
> I was wondering if anyone has had any success in doing this, either
> with the Windows version that comes with the Connectivity Pack, or by
> transfering the LLRA files from the HP to the PC and connecting that
> way.
>
> With the DOS version. every time I try, I can't seem to get a
> connection thru the port even though the LLRA TSR's seem to execute OK.
>
> And when I try with the Windows version, I get an error message (can't
> remember right off hand what it is).
>
> Anyone have any luck with NT? I've gotten both versions to work with
> Windows 95 fine... just not NT.
>
> Thanks.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Mark J. Jordan
> Par Computer Solutions, Inc., Grand Rapids, MI
> mjordan@mail.com
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Date:         Fri, 26 Sep 1997 07:55:37 -0400
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From:         Angelica Wilson <Rhyanna26@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: wanted: program for LX that rivals a TI 85 calculator

I don't know exactly what you are trying to do but have any of you looked
into the slover application built into the hp calculator program. The
calculator built into the sysmgr is capable of preforming scientific function
including plotting. The scientic function are accessable from either the math
or sover application but the plot function is only available in the solver
application. To use this application you must first enter the formula but as
I see it this has many advantages. Once the formula is entered you can save
it so instead of constantly having to reenter thes formula you just call it
up when you need it. I have done something of this sort having seperate files
containing formula for basic ohm's law, area and volume calculation for
circles spheres etc, and a couple more for various other functions.
I have looked at Excalc and Unicalc and found them being of little use
because the rom software already does everything these do and it doesn't take
up valuable drive space.

Angelica Wilson :-)

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Subject:      Re: Caffeine Dreams

I am going to add my experience to this thread.

Although it isn't possible to load io.sys or msdos.sys from a pcmcia card it
is possible to load command.com from a flash card. I know this is possible
because I've done it. The command.com located is rom is not the same one that
comes with the complete version of dos 5.0 . I copied a complete version of
command.com from my version of dos 5.0 onto my flashcard and then changed my
config.sys to load this version rather then the one loacated in rom. This
change doesn't seem to affect the built in software but this version of
command.com consumes more of you dos memory. I haven't tried this with the
command.com from dos 6.22 and don't know if it will work

Angelica Wilson

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>Dave's right--by the time you get to that boot sequence menu, the
>machine is already WAY booted; it's only asking you which set of
>start-up files to execute (config.sys, autoexec.bat).  The O/S and
>command interpreter are already loaded and running.

Just a minor nit.  At this point the command interpreter is NOT
loaded, let alone running.  In config.sys you can specify which command
interpreter you want, for example 4DOS or NDOS instead of command.com.

However, once the machine is booted and DOS is running, there is
nothing keeping you from rebooting a new operating system from the PCMCIA
card.  That OS doesn't have to be DOS, it could be a Un*x clone like Minix.
 With a little work, one could probably have the USCD P-system or
CP/M-86 running on the palmtop.

I'd better stop here before this turns into Caffeine Nightmares.

Kiyoshi Akima
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Date:         Fri, 26 Sep 1997 08:59:02 -0700
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From:         Quinton Jones JR <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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The Viking Flash will work just fine on the 100LX with the add of the
acecard.com driver.
It should be installed in your config.sys as follows:

device:=c:\ace\acecard.com /sdp

drop me a line and I'll send it to you,

Regards, Qman

At 08:03 PM 9/25/97 -0400, you wrote:
>i have two cards which run fine on my hp200lx, but are not recognized by my
>wife's 100lx.  they are a viking 5v ata card, and the pny 8meg ata card from
>sears.
>
>two other cards (an hp flash and an hp sram) run just fine on the 100lx.  it
>seems to be a driver problem.  does anyone have a driver which will solve
>this problem?
>
>thanks,
>
>lynn m. cavendish
>cavendishl@aol.com

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I used to have an old DOS game that was called Air Tracks. It was an air
traffic control simulation that wasn't much graphically but was a lot of
fun. Any ideas where it might  be found? =


Phil Godden
Phil_Godden@bigfoot.com

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Check out : http://cgi.skylist.net/WindowsCE-Talk.Home

This list is provided by www.windowsce.com.  It is dedicated to the
discussion of all things WindowsCE.  This list is open to the public so
that anyone can subscribe.  You may contact info@windowsce.com with any
questions, comments or suggestions.

Hope this helps,
Qman

At 04:50 PM 9/25/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Is there a mailing list for the 300 series. It seems a little light in this
>one. Any web sites devoted to these machines?
>
>Thanks for the help.
>
>
><mailto:dalpert@doitnow.com>
><http://www.doitnow.com/~dalpert>
>
>Do you have change for a paradigm?
>               author unknown
>
>When I get a little money, I buy books;
>And, if any is left, I buy food and clothes.
>                Erasmus
>
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>inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
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David Runge@AIRTOUCH
09/26/97 10:35 AM


Hi Al,

Thanks for the help yesterday.  Yes, I was trying to get the INDEX with
that command and accidently sent it to the list instead of the LISTSERV.
After I sent it to LISTSERV I got a reply back, tried "GET HPLX-L LOG9708"
and got a reply back.  So, it worked for me.

I tried "http:\\www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml" as you suggested, but
got a no server found error.  Maybe its down right now?

I'm basically trying to find out what's new with HP palmtops again (used to
be heavily into HPHAND on CompuServe 1 1/2 years ago) now that I've decided
to invest in a RAM upgrade to my HP200LX 2mb to bring it up to 8MB and also
a double speed upgrade rather than waiting for a 320LX to have the
available software I want.  These upgrades will allow me to use Stacker
again with my 20mb flash disk to use with Software Carousel and have the
speed and EMS memory I need for my apps.  I'll also be able to use a PCMCIA
modem without a hassle, so I'm thinking of getting a web browser and
offline reader along with lots of other new software!

Any good tips on newsgroups or web sites?

David Runge




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Greetings David,
        Your request:
> INDEX HPLX-L
was posted to the HPLX-L which I assume is not what you intended.
        Are you trying to see which files are available for download,
i.e. notebook files? these files are available in compressed format
(.ZIP) on the WWW site:
http:\\www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
        Are you trying to subscribe to the INDEX (daily posting of
subject headers of which you can select which posts you which to
download)? I have yet to get this to work on my end but the "Docs" say
it should work.
        I apologize for the documentation with regards to this. It is a
"canned" file from L-SOFT and I personally don't think all the features
are implemented correctly here at UCONN.
        If you drop me a personal note back with your intentions, I6ll
see what I can do.
Cheers,

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Subject:      Re: 100lx Connectivity?
Comments: cc: mikeg@WANS.NET

On 1997-09-19 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to ddv*teach*@digita
l.net
   >I hit the same download problem about 6 months ago, but got
   >it to work using WS_FTP instead of a web browser.
   >----------

   What is WS-FTP?  Just wondering.

   Domingo
Net-Tamer V 1.06H For HP100/200 & OG700 - Test Drive

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Comments: cc: Ace@ddi.digital.net, Technologies@ddi.digital.net,
          Software@ddi.digital.net

On 1997-09-23 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to ddv*teach*@digita
l.net
   >I was wondering, since Ace Technologies have officially
   >closed down, is there a way for their previous programs to
   >be freely distributed? I am curious on what they carried
   >(coz I became part of the HP Users only AFTER they closed
   >down.....). Hope someone can figure this out. .... OS/2:

   If I recall correctly, there was a certain company (name?)
   which purchased Ace's remaining stock to resell.  But I guess
   that doesn't answer the copyright issue.   *IF* the abandonware
   concept is valid, that means we should wait 3 to 5 years from
   the last known time of availability before making copies.
   Just a thought . . .

   Domingo
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Subject:      >On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, David Eggins wrote: >>    OK,
              heres an idea: >>    Take the built in memo, or PALEdit,
              and build an addon >>to     easily create line drawings. >>
              With a predefined keystroke,
              the editor drops into >>draw mode.     A drop down list of line
              styles appear, >>single, double,
              curved     etc. >>    Now the whole keyboard,
              except the leftmost and >>rightmost     columns is mapped to the
              its corresponding >>location on the     screen. You would treat
              the keyboard >>as a touch screen to     create a simple line
              drawing. >>    The lines would be linked from the last pen down
              >>position to     the next position,
              as pressed on the >keyboard. > >>    There would have to be a pen
              up/down key, menu key, >>exit/enter     draw mode key,
              and scroll keys. >>    Is this possible?
Comments: cc: Drawing@ddi.digital.net, program@ddi.digital.net

     Regretfully my desktop pc crashed last week (I now only have my
     palmtop).  In it I had a simple editor from Simtel, which does
     text & ascii graphics.  I don't recall the name, but I think
     there is more than one which does this (Infoselect does it as
     well).  It works not only by entering ascii codes, but also
     by pressing some hot keys to change characters, then using
     the cursor to draw.  This might be good enough for some people.
     For more advanced needs, Envisopublisher (spelling?) works
     on the palmtop, but I don't know how to use it without a mouse
     (Jorgen mentioned using this program on the old list; perhaps
     he can comment).   It does great graphics, but it is huge, and
     it won't run if you erase ANY of its files.  It's also at Simtel.

Domingo Diaz-Vazquez
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A very good suggestion, Rob... been doing this for years. I have a DOS
batch file on my Desktop side of the connection that will do a full
backup of my palmtop every week using Pkzip. Its great because the
desktop will recognize my palmtop drives, mapped as J: & L: for A: &
C:.

My problem is that I've recently been assigned an NT machine, whereas
I've survived Win 3.11 for Workgroups and W95 using this method. I just
can't seem to get and established link when trying this on the NT
machine... when I run LLRA on both sides, I get the proper message that
they are loaded, but no successive tones, and no connection.

I just wanted to confirm that at least someone else has had success on
an NT machine.

On Fri, 26 Sep 1997 01:57:29 -0400 you wrote:
> Transfer all the files from LLRA to a seperate directory on the PC using
> the Data Comm program. (You ddon't need ALL the files , but I have
> forgotten which ones are needed do copy them all unless someone out
> there can tell us just the ones needed.) Change the Ttsi.ini file (on
> the PC) to reflect the settings of your tranfer cable. Mine are as
> follows:

[snip]

> Connect the 200LX to the PC and start the 200LX LapLink program. Go to
> the directory on the PC where the LLRA files reside and run the LLRA.bat
> file. Both machines should give a series of tones indicating each is on
> line.

[snip]

> Rob Blasdel

> > Subject: Windows NT & LapLink
> > Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 23:05:48 -0400
> > From: Mark Jordan <mjordan@MAIL.COM>
> >

[snip]

> > Anyone have any luck with NT? I've gotten both versions to work with
> > Windows 95 fine... just not NT.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >


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All,

Does anyone know of a DOS route planner / mapper like Automap (Now
microsoft streets) that would run on the HP100/200 series machines?

Any Info would be appreciated.

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>    >I was wondering, since Ace Technologies have officially
>    >closed down, is there a way for their previous programs to
>    >be freely distributed?

>    [...] that doesn't answer the copyright issue.   *IF* the abandonware
>    concept is valid, that means we should wait 3 to 5 years from
>    the last known time of availability before making copies.

The "abandonware concept" *is* a valid concept, but it is not a legal
concept - it's a pre-legal concept. However, if it becomes accepted
custom, it may *become* a legal concept. Once such a custom is firmly
established, courts will often enforce it. Thus, it becomes Law.

Already, the abandonware concept is analogous to the exisiting legal
concept of "adverse possession". Imprecisely, this is: if A owns some
land, but does not use it to produce anything, or assert his title in
any other way (eg fences etc); and B comes along who *does* make use of
it, then B will eventually gain title to the land. The catch is, it
takes around 20 years (varying between jurisdictions).

One step would be to extend the scope of adverse possession from real
property to include the intellectual property of copyright. However,
20 years is still a bit too long for software; a second step would be to
reduce this time to 5 years or so(?). Note that the clock starts
ticking only when ownership is not asserted, so this is no problem to
old software that is still being sold... just as the abandonware concept
holds.

We can nourish the abandonware legal concept by establishing and
respecting an "abandonware custom": a just and valid way to allocate
rights between copyright holders and copyright users that maximises the
common good.

I understand that this is just what is happening. :)

Brendan

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>>I hit the same download problem about 6 months ago, but got
>>it to work using WS_FTP instead of a web browser.
>>----------

>What is WS-FTP?  Just wondering.
>
>Domingo

It's a winsock file transfer protocol program, available from
http://www.tucows.com
(The Ultimate Collection of Winsock Software... or something close to
that).  It sort of resembles the HP filer when you have the screen split
and one side set to remote, but in this case remote is some other computer
on the net.

It only came up on this mailing list because people were trying to download
Transfile Win 200 (windows to HP interface) and having trouble using their
browsers to do it.

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I'm taking a JAVA course via the internet and the required text is in HTML
format.
I downloaded the book from ZDNet  University.

I can read it with Netscape on my desktop computer by using
the File/Open File in Brower option.


========>  Is there a browser I can use on my HP 200LX to read the book?

[The book is mostly just text file with .HTM extensions.  But
there are also some images (in a separate image subdirectory) ]


BTW, if you're interested in taking a course via the internet, the URL is:

          http://www.zdu.com/


Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more info.
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Philip Seyer wrote:

> I can read it with Netscape on my desktop computer by using
> the File/Open File in Brower option.
>
> ========>  Is there a browser I can use on my HP 200LX to read the book?

HV works very well for viewing HTML files on the palmtop.

Alternatively, you could convert them to plain text... but that's not nearly
as much fun as being able to view regular HTML files.

--
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Philip,

There is a freeware Html viewer called HV from the people who do WWW/LX
that you should be able to use. Its available for dl on SUPER and a number
of other sites.

Dan

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> From: Philip Seyer <pseyer@BEST.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Viewing HTML book on HP200 LX
> Date: Friday, September 26, 1997 11:23 PM
>
> I'm taking a JAVA course via the internet and the required text is in
HTML
> format.
> I downloaded the book from ZDNet  University.
>
> I can read it with Netscape on my desktop computer by using
> the File/Open File in Brower option.
>
>
> ========>  Is there a browser I can use on my HP 200LX to read the book?
>
> [The book is mostly just text file with .HTM extensions.  But
> there are also some images (in a separate image subdirectory) ]
>
>
> BTW, if you're interested in taking a course via the internet, the URL
is:
>
>           http://www.zdu.com/
>
>
> Visit http://www.ilovemusic.com  to explore music and dance!
> Ear Trainer-software to improve your ear (HP 200LX or desktop PCs)
> SHE--shareware Hypertext editor for HP 200 LX call or write for more
info.
> MASTERY--shareware program to help you master any subject!
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Is there a way to hook my HP 200LX to my PC?  Both have 14.4 modems.  My
PC is running Win95 and I have QModem Pro (Lite), HyperTerminal, and an
assortment of other programs, as well as access to the Internet
(obviously).  Please let me know if this has been done.  Thanks!

-Jeremy

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sure would like to know that co. name

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As far as I know, this method will only run from DOS. How about slipping
a 5 or 6+ DOS boot disk (with all the LLRA files on it) in the machine
before you fire it up?

-------Mark Jordan mjordan@MAIL.COM> wrote: --------------------------
A very good suggestion, Rob... been doing this for years. I have a DOS
batch file on my Desktop side of the connection that will do a full
backup of my palmtop every week using Pkzip. Its great because the
desktop will recognize my palmtop drives, mapped as J: & L: for A: &
C:.

My problem is that I've recently been assigned an NT machine, whereas
I've survived Win 3.11 for Workgroups and W95 using this method. I just
can't seem to get and established link when trying this on the NT
machine... when I run LLRA on both sides, I get the proper message that
they are loaded, but no successive tones, and no connection.

I just wanted to confirm that at least someone else has had success on
an NT machine.

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On Sat, 27 Sep 1997  Roy Stroud <Agentrapid@AOL.COM> wrote:

> sure would like to know that co. name

Shier Systems & Software is now marketing ACE's MAGNIFY. Don't know
about other software. Their URL is:
        http://www.shier.com
Email:
        info@shier.com

Check with them to see what else is available.

ACE had a product called FASTWRITE that was a version of VDE 1.71
VDE 1.82 is available on the SUPER site:
        http://www.palmtop.net/super.html

Hope this helps.

-PR
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Text of message from renegade@BMT.NET, 27 Sep 1997, 12:52 AM
> Is there a way to hook my HP 200LX to my PC?  Both have 14.4 modems.  My
> PC is running Win95 and I have QModem Pro (Lite), HyperTerminal, and an
> assortment of other programs, as well as access to the Internet
> (obviously).  Please let me know if this has been done.  Thanks!

Forget the modems (although you could probably use the built-in DataComm
to do it this way).  Two classes of methods:

1) PCMCIA Flash Disk

If you use a PCMCIA flash disk in the 200LX you can buy a slot for your
PC.  Workds great.

2) Serial connection

Get (or make) a serial connection cable and connect the machines.  Then
run software on both that allows communication.  Transfile Win200 is
available for registering on the HP web site (you supply the cable).  HP
sells a Connectivity Pack which includes a cable and DOS software for the
desktop.  The software, which you need to run in a full screen session in
most Win95 configurations, allows you to transfer some files and sync
others.  It also includes desktop versions of the palmtop's appt book,
notetaker, database, calculator, and a few others (not Quicken, 1-2-3, or
ccMail).  It works well but they overcharge for it.  Finally, if you have
a serial connection, Eric Meyer has a great file transfer program which
runs in DOS under Win95.  It's called Zip (not to be confused with PKZip)
and is available on Super and other sites.

I hope this helps.

- Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
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Daniel Z. Sands wrote:

> Forget the modems (although you could probably use the built-in
> DataComm
> to do it this way).  Two classes of methods:
>
> 1) PCMCIA Flash Disk
>
> If you use a PCMCIA flash disk in the 200LX you can buy a slot for
> your
> PC.  Workds great.

I don't have a slot and because of #2 it is not necessary.


> 2) Serial connection
>
> Get (or make) a serial connection cable and connect the machines.
> Then
> run software on both that allows communication.  Transfile Win200 is
> available for registering on the HP web site (you supply the cable).
> HP
> sells a Connectivity Pack which includes a cable and DOS software for
> the
> desktop.  The software, which you need to run in a full screen session
> in
> most Win95 configurations, allows you to transfer some files and sync
> others.  It also includes desktop versions of the palmtop's appt book,
>
> notetaker, database, calculator, and a few others (not Quicken, 1-2-3,
> or
> ccMail).  It works well but they overcharge for it.  Finally, if you
> have
> a serial connection, Eric Meyer has a great file transfer program
> which
> runs in DOS under Win95.  It's called Zip (not to be confused with
> PKZip)
> and is available on Super and other sites.

I successfully made a cable (that actually works no less) and have been
on the computer for the last two hours transferring stuff between my PC
and my palmtop.  I have been using TransFile because it works for me.

> I hope this helps.
>
> - Danny   Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH  *  dsands@bidmc.harvard.edu
>   ___/    Center for Clinical Computing
>  (__      Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr / Harvard Medical School
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Thanks for your help.

-Jeremy

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That would work... however, because the NT's have the NT file system, vs.
FAT or FAT3-32, booting from a regular DOS 5.x or 6.x disk would render
the hard drive(s) unreadable.

Thanks for the suggestion, though. I guess its just not possible...
shame... I gave M....$oft a chance, and was let down again. So what
else is new.

On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:06:16 -0400 you wrote:
> As far as I know, this method will only run from DOS. How about slipping
> a 5 or 6+ DOS boot disk (with all the LLRA files on it) in the machine
> before you fire it up?

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I was reading the newsgroups today and saw a posting about a Virtual Pet
game like the Giga-Pets and Tomagtchi which is written to run on the Palm
Pilot. I was just curious if anyone knew of or has seen any such program
which will run on our little DOS machines?

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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On Sat, 27 Sep 1997, Mark Jordan wrote:

> That would work... however, because the NT's have the NT file system, vs.
> FAT or FAT3-32, booting from a regular DOS 5.x or 6.x disk would render
> the hard drive(s) unreadable.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, though. I guess its just not possible...
> shame... I gave M....$oft a chance, and was let down again. So what
> else is new.
>
> On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:06:16 -0400 you wrote:
> > As far as I know, this method will only run from DOS. How about slipping
> > a 5 or 6+ DOS boot disk (with all the LLRA files on it) in the machine
> > before you fire it up?
>
> [snip]
>
>
>
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I do not currently have a web page for HisWord, or at least one that
is reliable.  My dfwmm.net account is gone, and the space that I just
obtained on qsl.net is unacceptably slow.  Does anyone know of an
ISP that can provide about 10 meg of ftp/web space for cheap?  Even
telnet only access would be OK, as I plan to keep my AT&T Worldnet
account.

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What are LLRA files?


At 04:32 PM 9/27/97 -0400, you wrote:
>That would work... however, because the NT's have the NT file system, vs.
>FAT or FAT3-32, booting from a regular DOS 5.x or 6.x disk would render
>the hard drive(s) unreadable.
>
>Thanks for the suggestion, though. I guess its just not possible...
>shame... I gave M....$oft a chance, and was let down again. So what
>else is new.
>
>On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:06:16 -0400 you wrote:
>> As far as I know, this method will only run from DOS. How about slipping
>> a 5 or 6+ DOS boot disk (with all the LLRA files on it) in the machine
>> before you fire it up?
>
>[snip]
>
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From:         Domingo Diaz-Vazquez <ddvteach@DIGITAL.NET>
Comments: cc: 100lx@ddi.digital.net, Connectivity?@ddi.digital.net

On 1997-09-26 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to ddv*teach*@digita
l.net
   >>What is WS-FTP?  Just wondering.
   >>Domingo
   >It's a winsock file transfer protocol program, available
   >from http://www.tucows.com

     Rats, and I thought it might be a neat new program for my
     palmtop!  8=)

     Thanks anyway.

     Domingo
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Dan,
        I use the DOS version of Automap on my HP200.  I run it off a 10 meg.
card.
I reduce the program down to essential files and it takes up approx. 2.7
meg.  Runs much faster than Automap Trip Planner under Windows 95 with a
486/75.

Ron

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> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Route Planning / Mapping Software?
> Date: Friday, September 26, 1997 8:37 PM
>
> All,
>
> Does anyone know of a DOS route planner / mapper like Automap (Now
> microsoft streets) that would run on the HP100/200 series machines?
>
> Any Info would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
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          Transfer@ddi.digital.net, Programs@ddi.digital.net

This thread gave me the initial impression that it was about a much
simpler way to connect to a pc.  Now I have the impression that
it is just about connecting laplink on both ends (that's what the
LLRA files are).  If so, I don't see what the great revelation
is.  I for one find laplink a pain to use.  Any terminal program
on the desktop pc will connect to the palmtop terminal program,
with the proper settings, a serial cable, and no modem.

Domingo



On 1997-09-28 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to ddv*teach*@digita
l.net
   >What are LLRA files?
   >At 04:32 PM 9/27/97 -0400, you wrote:
   >>That would work... however, because the NT's have the NT
   >>file system, vs. FAT or FAT3-32, booting from a regular
   >>DOS 5.x or 6.x disk would render the hard drive(s)
   >unreadable. >
   >>Thanks for the suggestion, though. I guess its just not
   >>possible... shame... I gave M....$oft a chance, and was
   >>let down again. So what else is new.
   >>On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:06:16 -0400 you wrote:
   >>> As far as I know, this method will only run from DOS.
   >>>How about slipping  a 5 or 6+ DOS boot disk (with all the
   >>>LLRA files on it) in the machine  before you fire it up?
   >>[snip]

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I know that this topic has been discussed quite a few times on the
list recently but I have come across a very interesting site listing
some of the other 'palmtop' offerings that are available including =
the
new and very pricey Libretto 60 and the IBM PC110. Those with the
desire to have a win95 pc that's easy to carry around may wish to look
carefully at the PC110 before venturing into the winCE abyss... :-)
Users of frame-ready browsers may go directly to:

        http://www.mmjp.or.jp/jpd/

or those using HV or similar browsers not capable of supporting frames
go directly to the main frame:

        http://www.mmjp.or.jp/jpd/frmain.htm

Even for die-hard 200LX'ers like myself I'm sure you will find the
visit very worthwhile and informative! Now if only we can get HP to
move in the direction of the PC110 - maybe an HP210LX... <g>

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These are the files for the LapLink program, found at D:\bin on the HP
200LX. They are used to form a LapLink network connection with another PC
via the serial or parallel ports. I believe they were included on the HP
for use with the Connectivity Pack.

On Sun, 28 Sep 1997, Philip Seyer wrote:

> What are LLRA files?
>
[snip]

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The difference is this: on the PC side, I can reference the HP's A: drive
as J:, or the C: drive as L:. This allows me to perform activities on my
PC, with my HP connected, while accessing the data on the HP just like
the HP's drives were local to the PC.

Example: I connect my HP to my PC via LapLink. Then I fire up Word
Perfect 5.0 on my PC desktop... the one with the big screen, normal size
keyboard, etc 8^). Then I retrieve a document from j:\_dat\. Work on it,
save it back, maybe even print it... I've just made modifications to the
document on the HP.

Example 2: You can also redirect the LPT1 printer port from the HP to the
printer hooked up to LPT1 on the PC. For instance, while on the road, I
create several documents in WP 5.1, then print them to file in a
directory called a:\queprt. Then when I get home, I simply fire up
LapLink, type the command, "type a:\queprt\*.* > lpt1:", and all of my
documents are printed on the printer of the PC. You can even fire up WP
on the HP and print to the printer while connected.

Example 3: Every Monday, I do a full backup of my HP... both drives, A:
and C:. I connect the HP to the PC, fire up LapLink, and have a batch
routine on the PC that recursively PKzip's j:\*.* and l:\*.*... it takes
awhile, but its being done while I'm taking my shower.

In summary, LapLink connects remaps the logical disk drives and printers
for both ends of the link, to be accessable to the other end, just like
it was local.

And its really nice when I can goto work, connect the my palm top to my
PC, and access files from it through the PC just by accessing another
logical drive. When using Datacomm of other terminal emulation and file
transfer programs, file transfers are required before doing anything, and
PKzip certainly cannot be performed without either transfering all files
first then zipping, or zipping first then tranferring.

Apparently NT will not allow this now, though...

Incidentally, if the impression is that a modem is required for LapLink,
this is not true.

On Sun, 28 Sep 1997, Domingo Diaz-Vazquez wrote:

> This thread gave me the initial impression that it was about a much
> simpler way to connect to a pc.  Now I have the impression that
> it is just about connecting laplink on both ends (that's what the
> LLRA files are).  If so, I don't see what the great revelation
> is.  I for one find laplink a pain to use.  Any terminal program
> on the desktop pc will connect to the palmtop terminal program,
> with the proper settings, a serial cable, and no modem.
>
> Domingo
>

[snip]

Mark Jordan
Par Computer Solutions, Inc.
Grand Rapids, MI
mjordan@mail.com

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> This thread gave me the initial impression that it was about a much
> simpler way to connect to a pc.  Now I have the impression that
> it is just about connecting laplink on both ends (that's what the
> LLRA files are).  If so, I don't see what the great revelation
> is.  I for one find laplink a pain to use.  Any terminal program
> on the desktop pc will connect to the palmtop terminal program,
> with the proper settings, a serial cable, and no modem.

Yes, it does seem terribly involved. By the "palmtop terminal program",
I assume you mean the built-in one, "Datacomm". I find this *hideous*
to use. A terrible, shocking, outrageous, inflammatory, degrading,
frustrating and royal pain.

I reccommend "zip" (avail on the SUPER site). Really, really FAST, TINY,
SIMPLE and JUST PLAIN GOOD. <g>

Brendan

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Greetings again to the HPLX Mailing List,

Having just got back after a break of two weeks, I find that there is
indeed a mountain of mail and other things to get through, so I'll
temporarily acknowledge collectively all of you who responded to my
last message, mainly on HPLX Australia.  In due course you will all
get a proper reply.

The vegemite comments were appreciated - obviously it helps to spread
the word!

Keep smiling.

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Has anybody made experiences with LXDIAL? It is a great program written
by  Carl-Werner Oehlrich and Rob Koenis that takes the clipboard and
dials the number.
I successfully installed it, but the sound is a little bit strange, it
is somewhat distorted on my 100LX. I wonder if there is something wrong
with my LX or if the program does not work. What I can say is, that it
somewht dials here in germany, but it always gives wrong connections.
One time I was was connected to anywhere in spain.

Any hints?

Ruediger

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Shucks guys! My 200LX is dead!
It was soaked in Soya Bean Drink, and after I tried to rinse the entire thing in clean water
and drying it completely, it STILL didn't start!!!!!!!! ARG!!! Guess I am one of the people
who are not as lucky as the others whose 200LX could be revived.. :<

I am sending it to the HP service center here in Singapore, and I **HOPE** they can get
it back to me by the next 3 days....... The last 2 days were torture....... Not to mention 1
week worth of data lost.... I think I should get a serial switch box so I won't have to defer
my backup (because of the swapping of cables). Oh well.......
... Windows NT: Vapourware of the desperate and scared.

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My HP sucks batteries empty in only one day (in shutoff-mode!).

Question:
How long should normal alcalines last with a speed-upgraded and
memory-upgraded HP?

What could by defect?
No more guarantee :-(

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Manfred Geiler wrote:
>
> My HP sucks batteries empty in only one day (in shutoff-mode!).
>
> Question:
> How long should normal alcalines last with a speed-upgraded and
> memory-upgraded HP?
>
> What could by defect?
> No more guarantee :-(


I had one that did the same thing, HP had to fix it. The only
description of the resolution was "fixed logic". Don't leave the
batteries in there while it's doing that cause they'll leak.

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On Saturday, September 27, 1997 8:06 AM, Rob Blasdel
[SMTP:dlr.pub.grp@MEDIASOFT.NET] wrote:
>
> My problem is that I've recently been assigned an NT machine, whereas
> I've survived Win 3.11 for Workgroups and W95 using this method. I just
> can't seem to get and established link when trying this on the NT
> machine... when I run LLRA on both sides, I get the proper message that
> they are loaded, but no successive tones, and no connection.
>
> I just wanted to confirm that at least someone else has had success on
> an NT machine.

I use Transfile and have not tried Rob's suggestion on my NT box; however,
NT has this 'neat' feature called the 'hardware abstraction layer' which
prevents many DOS type apps from directly contacting the hardware. We use
HP ISA bus net adapters. In order to set their EEPROM parameters, I must
use a DOS boot disk in order to gain hardware access.

Tom L

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What pain Domingo? Plug in the 200LX to the cable, highlight the LapLink
icon and press enter. Then go to the LLRA directory on the PC and type
LLRA. In a few seconds you're connected. Use a decent DOS file manager
and transfer files back and forth. And, using the LLRA, it's nice to get
all the drive letters to work with. What could be simpler? Besides, you
don't have to buy any software, just use the TERM program to put the
LLRA files you already own, from the 200LX to the PC.
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DOMINGO wrote:
This thread gave me the initial impression that it was about a much
simpler way to connect to a pc.  Now I have the impression that
it is just about connecting laplink on both ends (that's what the
LLRA files are).  If so, I don't see what the great revelation
is.  I for one find laplink a pain to use.  Any terminal program
on the desktop pc will connect to the palmtop terminal program,
with the proper settings, a serial cable, and no modem.

Domingo

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>I successfully made a cable (that actually works no less) and have been
>on the computer for the last two hours transferring stuff between my PC
>and my palmtop.  I have been using TransFile because it works for me.

I don't know if Shier Systems have the cable (info@shier.com). If not
try Educalc 800 677 7001 (www.educalc.com). They may also have the
HP connectivity Pack F1021B (which comes with the cable and the
connections you need).



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> ========>  Is there a browser I can use on my HP 200LX to read the book?
There is a freeware (perhaps shareware) which I think can be found at
www.dasoft.com
It is HV.ZIP

It comes bundled by the way with a combined email program ($) called
POST/LX. So, not
only will you be able to do your assignments on the HP, but you will be
able to Email
them via you 200 as well.




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Does anyone know if the PC-SIG shareware collection is online anywhere or=

how to contact them?


Phil Godden
Phil_Godden@bigfoot.com

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I was trying to find the same thing a couple of weeks ago.

Found an old 1989 catalog and called their 800-245-67170 number -- disconnected.

Also, could find no references by searching the net.

--- On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 08:39:38 -0400  Phil Godden <Phil_Godden@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>Does anyone know if the PC-SIG shareware collection is online anywhere or
>how to contact them?

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New Question, Same Thread.

Someone (perhaps Mr. Brendan?? or are you just the most enthusiastic
poster so I remember your name?) posted a little tidbit on "how to use
LapLink under Win95." I've lost the message. I have figured out how to
get the connectivity stuff -- back up & 200LX apps -- running, but
bottom out whenever I try to get LapLink going.

Could the helpful soul who posted this re-post or e-mail it to me?

Thanks y'all.
-joe

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On Mon, 29 Sep 1997, Joe Rooney wrote:

> Someone (perhaps Mr. Brendan?? or are you just the most enthusiastic
> poster so I remember your name?) posted a little tidbit on "how to use
> LapLink under Win95." I've lost the message. I have figured out how to
> get the connectivity stuff -- back up & 200LX apps -- running, but
> bottom out whenever I try to get LapLink going.
>
> Could the helpful soul who posted this re-post or e-mail it to me?

I'm not the poster you mentioned, nor do I even use LapLink (or Zip or
Datacomm....at least for file transfers). But I think the hints you
mentioned were probably excerpted from an article by Peter Jordan, posted
at Mitch's palmtop website. Try looking at

        http://www.palmtop.net/~jorgen/w95.htm

If you can't get to that page, then email me and I'll try sending you the
contents as it's quite lengthy.

- Longden

PS. One of these days, we'll all have to have another Zip-vs-Laplink-vs
Datacomm-vs-Interlnk discussions. As an Interlnk user myself, I've never
quite figured out the merits and faults of each approach.

Interlnk came with DOS 6.x and works like Laplink (maps disk drives vs
specific file transfer approach), but you only need 1 executable on each
end and no config files in order to set things going....seemed simpler,
tho I realize that having DOS 6.x isn't a "given" as it was a year or two
ago.

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I use Mr. Loo's post as a starting point...  Does anyone know how to use
Interlnk with Windows 95?

Phil

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>
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The following was found at HPHAND on CompuServe. I am posting it in case
any should have an interest

>Date:    Tue, Sep 23, 1997 8:46:25 AM
>Subject: #394830-8 MB upgrade
>From:    HalGoldstein/PalmtopMag 75300,2443
>To:      Bill Buzan 71670,3206 (received)
>Reply:   #395178 (1 reply)
>
>We (Thaddeus Computing) will be offering Mack's 8 Meg double speed upgrade
>for $299 and a upgraded used palmtops for $575 starting at the beginning
>of October. (Shipping $9.50 in U.S, $35 for overseas -- only the $575
>option). 90 day warranty extendable to 1 year for $25. If you or anyone is
>interested you can send me private email and we'll respond with details.
>You can also call 800 373 6114 and ask for David.





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Does anyone know a way to tie a field in the built-in database to the
daily reminder screen that pops up when you turn on the 200LX at the
beginning of the day. I built a small database that has a date formatted
field. I put due dates in this field for each record and would like to
have a note pop up on the day when this date arrives.

Thanks for any suggestions

Tom
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Sorry, got exactly the same experiences on my 200LX, and already have given up!

FRAX
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Datum: Montag, 29. September 1997 09:52

Has anybody made experiences with LXDIAL? It is a great program written
by  Carl-Werner Oehlrich and Rob Koenis that takes the clipboard and
dials the number.
I successfully installed it, but the sound is a little bit strange, it
is somewhat distorted on my 100LX. I wonder if there is something wrong
with my LX or if the program does not work. What I can say is, that it
somewht dials here in germany, but it always gives wrong connections.
One time I was was connected to anywhere in spain.

Any hints?

Ruediger

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On Mon, 29 Sep 1997, Phil Drummond wrote:

> I use Mr. Loo's post as a starting point...  Does anyone know how to use
> Interlnk with Windows 95?

Due to restrictions at work on "customizing" our Win 95 machines, I'm
limited to one scenario: Win95/desktop acts as client and LX acts as
server. My setups are as follows:

1) Add interlnk to the Win95 "safelist". On my system, this is
        c:\windows\ios.ini

        the line added looked like:

        interlnk.exe    ; MS-DOS

2) Add the following line to config.sys (desktop):

        device=c:\util\interlink.exe /com:1 /noprinter

        (of course, the path for interlnk depends on your own setup...
        the above sets up desktop Com-1 for connection and disables
        printer re-direction).

3) On the LX, exit AppMgr to DOS and run the intersvr command. I prefer to
run from within AppMgr and have an icon pointing to a batch file called
intersvr.bat. The AppMgr setup looks like this:

                Path: a:\utils\intersvr.bat|

                Comments: ?!   (inverted, using Fn keys to keep SysMgr
                                from interfering).

        My intersvr.bat looks like this:
        @echo off
        timeout ld
        d:\bin\serctl /w
        a:\msdos\intersvr.exe /baud:115200 /com:1 /b
        d:\bin\serctl /o
        timeout le

        Explanation: "timeout" is a program on SUPER that turns the LX
        timeout feature on/off. "serctl" turns power for the serial port
        on/off.

Comments: you don't need the above AppMgr setup nor batch file if you just
run intersvr from straight DOS.

Good: Connected to my desktop, I can "Save As" from any windows
application directly to the LX (ie, MS Exchange notes). I can access my LX
drives (A: and C:) as drives D: and F: from Windows Explorer.

Bad: If I'm not careful, the Win95 naming conventions seem to bite at the
LX by creating bogus files on the A: or C: drive that the desktop file is
being copied to (Win95 seems to want to build something that will retain
the long filenames). As a result, I usually save or copy anything from the
desktop to my LX's C:\TMP directory which is flushed out nightly with a
DELTREE command which also cleans out any win95 droppings.

Ugly: I can't use any DOS command from Win95 (ie from a DOS window) to
access the LX. I think it's because I'm prevented from altering the
properties of the DOS window (a work restriction..Grr Grr). However,
during bootup, I can choose to work in DOS vs Windows and then from there
I can use DOS commands as I normally do at home on Win 3.11 (where the
connection is completely transparent to the desktop).

Prior to Win95, life with interlnk/DOS6.x-Win3.11 was quite sweet 8(

All computers at work, at home and (almost anywhere else) already had DOS
6.x on it and was connection ready (I usually ran the desktop as server in
that case, since hardly anyone lets strangers play with their
config.sys<g>).

Parting shot: when I did use Laplink to make the connection, it seemed
faster than Intersvr, tho I never really timed it. Laplink use requires
that you load a TSR on the LX, and I'm TSR-adverse (unless I really need
it). Another problem I had with using LL on other people's machines was
that they generally didn't like the idea of me copying several files onto
their machine (same principal as playing with their config.sys).

If anyone has more information on improving the process, I'd like to hear
from you.

Apologies if this was too long-winded and a rehash for alot of you.

- Longden

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I think I have one or two of their CDROMs around. Hard to search
as they don't have a convient exportable index or use the semi-standard
xxxxxxxx.zip naming. What do you need?

mdstockr wrote:

> Found an old 1989 catalog and called their 800-245-67170 number -- disconnected.
>
> Also, could find no references by searching the net.
>
> --- On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 08:39:38 -0400  Phil Godden <Phil_Godden@COMPUSERVE.COM>
> wrote:
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> >Does anyone know if the PC-SIG shareware collection is online anywhere or
> >how to contact them?
>
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I don't think you can. Interlink was replaced with Direct
Cable Connnection (DCC) with Win95. I guess MS is trying
to encourage us to buy more Win95.

Phil Drummond wrote:

> I use Mr. Loo's post as a starting point...  Does anyone know how to use
> Interlnk with Windows 95?
>
> Phil

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I have gotten INTERSVR to run under Windows 95, in a DOS box, before.=

It disables multitasking, though, until you exit (with ALT-F4).

It gives me errors about the com ports which are in use (such as mouse,
and modem port) and then disables multitasking.  Just make sure that,
in the properties for that program, MS-DOS mode is unchecked.  If
you're daring, go ahead and check the "Prevent MS-DOS programs from
detecting Windows" button.  Then you'll be able to multitask.  But I
don't know how well it'll work.

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Is it possible to change the date of summer time adjustment ?
My hplx changed the time on the 26th of september but the official
winter time begins (in Germany) on the 26th of October...
I didn't find anything about it in the manual.

Ciao
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Did you try filepile on the Web?

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TO:   hplx-l @ uconnvm.uconn.edu
cc:
SUBJ: Ham log soft for 200LX




To all amateur radio station who use 200lx,

Please let me know the useful and simple logging soft fittable
for 200LX.


Thanks.....

JA0KSB

T. KUrosaki

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At 15:16 9/29/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Is it possible to change the date of summer time adjustment ?
>My hplx changed the time on the 26th of september but the official
>winter time begins (in Germany) on the 26th of October...
>I didn't find anything about it in the manual.
>
>Ciao
>Christof

The answer is yes. Here's how:
there is a file in the ROM directory D:\_sys\timezone.dat
copy this file to the c:\_dat directory, then you can edit this text file
with memo and change the format to the following:

European
3:25-31   6 1:00
10:25-31 6 0:00
Northern
4:1-7       6 1:00
10:25-31 6 0:00
Southern
3:1-7       6 0:00
10:25-31 6 1:00

the world time function looks for timezone.dat in the c:_dat directory
first.  If it doesn't fine one there it goes to d:\_sys

Good Luck,
Owen Samuelson


Have a good one!
Owen Samuelson  KU4ET
My HP200LX page:  http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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>SUBJ: Ham log soft for 200LX
>To all amateur radio station who use 200lx,
>Please let me know the useful and simple logging soft fittable
>for 200LX.
>Thanks.....
>JA0KSB
>T. KUrosaki

You could create your own LOGBOOK.GDB using the database application built
into the 200LX
73's
Owen KU4ET

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TO:   HPLX-L @ UConnVM.UConn.Edu
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Mr Owen

Thank you for kind(?) advice.
To be sure your suggestion is best !! By the way did you create your own
log database
into 200LX ???

And you post this mail by 200LX  ???  Or Desk Top PC or NOte PC ??


Thank you


Kurosaki








>SUBJ: Ham log soft for 200LX
>To all amateur radio station who use 200lx,
>Please let me know the useful and simple logging soft fittable
>for 200LX.
>Thanks.....
>JA0KSB
>T. KUrosaki

You could create your own LOGBOOK.GDB using the database application built
into the 200LX
73's
Owen KU4ET

Have a good one!
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Hi Tom,

I tried the URL http://pobox.com/~thoover without luck. So I did a sear=
ch on
Hotbot for "HisWord" and found the following:

 Your home page referenced as http://www.qsl.net/n5ntm/index.html which=

 I couldn't connect to!

 A URL http://www.thaddeus.com/p26/p2600024.htm at Thaddeus, which did =
work.
 It had another link to a non-existant page!

 Another email for you: tom-hoover@genie.com

I would like to get in touch with you. And I would like to get a good, =
usable
Bible
text on my HP200LX. It is running with a 16MB ATA flash card and 5MB in=
ternal
memory.

Please contact me directly, if you get this.

I am waitng eagerly...

Paul Szilard
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HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu on 28-09-97 12:23:20
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Subject: HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible web page


I do not currently have a web page for HisWord, or at least one that
is reliable.  My dfwmm.net account is gone, and the space that I just
obtained on qsl.net is unacceptably slow.  Does anyone know of an
ISP that can provide about 10 meg of ftp/web space for cheap?  Even
telnet only access would be OK, as I plan to keep my AT&T Worldnet
account.

---
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    - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
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Hey! I laughed so much that I had to wipe my eyes after reading the
editorial on the referenced URL! The rest was very wirth while too.

Highly recommended...

Regards,
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Philip Seyer wrote:

> I can read it with Netscape on my desktop computer by using
> the File/Open File in Brower option.
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>  Is there a browser I can use on my HP 200L=
X to read the book?

HV works very well for viewing HTML files on the palmtop.

Alternatively, you could convert them to plain text... but that's not n=
early
as much fun as being able to view regular HTML files.

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Why don't you just make an appointment for that day and
type your note in the appointment note field.


At 09:32 AM 9/29/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Does anyone know a way to tie a field in the built-in database to the
>daily reminder screen that pops up when you turn on the 200LX at the
>beginning of the day. I built a small database that has a date formatted
>field. I put due dates in this field for each record and would like to
>have a note pop up on the day when this date arrives.
>
>Thanks for any suggestions
>
>Tom
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At least you got it to make some sounds.
I wouldn't get any sound out of it.

At 05:47 PM 9/29/97 +0200, you wrote:
>Sorry, got exactly the same experiences on my 200LX, and already have
given up!
>
>FRAX
>Regensburg - Germany
> ----------
>Von: HPLX Mailing List
>An: o=INTERNET;p=SCN;a=DBP;c=DE;dda:RFC-822=HPLX-L(a)UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU;
>Betreff: LX-DIAL
>Datum: Montag, 29. September 1997 09:52
>
>Has anybody made experiences with LXDIAL? It is a great program written
>by  Carl-Werner Oehlrich and Rob Koenis that takes the clipboard and
>dials the number.
>I successfully installed it, but the sound is a little bit strange, it
>is somewhat distorted on my 100LX. I wonder if there is something wrong
>with my LX or if the program does not work. What I can say is, that it
>somewht dials here in germany, but it always gives wrong connections.
>One time I was was connected to anywhere in spain.
>
>Any hints?
>
>Ruediger
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So does Transfile work on WinNT?  Are there any challenges? Problems?


At 07:44 AM 9/29/97 -0400, you wrote:
>On Saturday, September 27, 1997 8:06 AM, Rob Blasdel
>[SMTP:dlr.pub.grp@MEDIASOFT.NET] wrote:
>>
>> My problem is that I've recently been assigned an NT machine, whereas
>> I've survived Win 3.11 for Workgroups and W95 using this method. I just
>> can't seem to get and established link when trying this on the NT
>> machine... when I run LLRA on both sides, I get the proper message that
>> they are loaded, but no successive tones, and no connection.
>>
>> I just wanted to confirm that at least someone else has had success on
>> an NT machine.
>
>I use Transfile and have not tried Rob's suggestion on my NT box; however,
>NT has this 'neat' feature called the 'hardware abstraction layer' which
>prevents many DOS type apps from directly contacting the hardware. We use
>HP ISA bus net adapters. In order to set their EEPROM parameters, I must
>use a DOS boot disk in order to gain hardware access.
>
>Tom L
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On Monday, 29 September 1997, Christof wrote:

< Is it possible to change the date of summer time adjustment?
< My hplx changed the time on the 26th of September but the official
< winter time begins (in Germany) on the 26th of October...I didn't
< find anything about it in the manual.

The short answer is "Yes".

Presumably the manual referred to is that for the 200LX, which sounds
as if it is not as extensive in some areas as the 100LX edition.  In
the latter there are nearly two pages of information on this subject
which (presumably again) can be applied to the 200LX.  The manual also
has some further space devoted to examples of time conversions and
changing daylight saving time.

Daylight saving is always a tricky business in more ways than one,
even in trying to explain the situation.  For instance, in Australia
not all states adopt it, nor do the changes occur at the same time and
may even vary from year to year.  In addition, we in South Australia
have to do things by halves since we are 30 minutes officially behind
Eastern Standard Time.  The HPLX attempts to cover these sorts of
difficulties by offering three daylight saving time (DST) settings:

YES:  For locations always on DST; and those currently on it but which
will go off it on an irregular basis (you can change the setting).

NO:  For locations that do not use DST; and those currently off but
which will go onto it on an irregular basis (which again you can
change).

AUTOMATIC:  For locations that go on and off DST on a regular
schedule.  The northern schedule (N. America) ranges from the first
Sunday in April till the last Sunday in October.  The southern
hemisphere schedule ranges from the last Sunday in October to the
first Sunday in March.  The European schedule is from the last Sunday
in March to the last Sunday in September.  The "None" schedule is the
same as No DST.

It is actually more tricky than this since some countries are set for
convenience (according to HP) to an Automatic DST even if they are not
quite regular.  According to the manual "some" of these schedules are
changeable.  Apparently, too, when the change time comes, the World
Time application (which you have to open) will offer a prompt before
actually changing the system clock and the Local City's time.  There
are also shortcuts for changing the DST setting.

Phew!

Why your time changed on  Friday, 26th September, Christof, remains a
mystery - certainly the 26th of October is a Sunday - but you can
change things to suit.  I must apologise for passing on in summary
form information which I have not had the time (forgive the pun) to
check out in detail myself.  Maybe your query will goad me into
action.

Hopefully this will encourage you to investigate the matter further on
your HPLX.  Please let me know if you need any more information from
my 100 LX User's Guide.

Barry Collins
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Philip,
try lxdt /D
and hit some number buttons. This is the direct dial and you should at
least
be able to play some music :-)
maybe dialing works with your phone, too.

Ruediger

BTW, the tones seem to sound the same on a 200LX



Philip Seyer wrote:
>
> At least you got it to make some sounds.
> I wouldn't get any sound out of it.
>
> At 05:47 PM 9/29/97 +0200, you wrote:
> >Sorry, got exactly the same experiences on my 200LX, and already have
> given up!
> >
> >FRAX
> >Regensburg - Germany
> > ----------
> >Von: HPLX Mailing List
> >An: o=INTERNET;p=SCN;a=DBP;c=DE;dda:RFC-822=HPLX-L(a)UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU;
> >Betreff: LX-DIAL
> >Datum: Montag, 29. September 1997 09:52
> >
> >Has anybody made experiences with LXDIAL? It is a great program written
> >by  Carl-Werner Oehlrich and Rob Koenis that takes the clipboard and
> >dials the number.
> >I successfully installed it, but the sound is a little bit strange, it
> >is somewhat distorted on my 100LX. I wonder if there is something wrong
> >with my LX or if the program does not work. What I can say is, that it
> >somewht dials here in germany, but it always gives wrong connections.
> >One time I was was connected to anywhere in spain.
> >
>

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        Your problem is linguistic. "Summer Time" is U.K. English.
"Daylight Savings Time" is U.S. English, which is found in the manual. The
appropriate section is 5-8. There are three "automatic" options: North
American, Southern Hemisphere, and European. Manual adjustment is also
possible, e.g. by setting a reminder in your "To Do list."
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>N.B. - Such an external box could tap the DC plug on the palmtop -- have a
Y adapter
>for your transformer and run both palmtop and HD off the same power
supply.  Hard
>drives run off 12V dc, just like our beloved HP.  You would need a small
converter to do
>the 5v line on the power harness, tho.

Just a comment about this matter: the external plug ground doesn't need to
be connected to the HP200LX ground (and thus, the drive ground). This can
cause nasty current loops, and very nasty things can happen (from
malfunction to permanent damage). I actually don't know how the DC-DC
converter at the plug input is, but think a check would be needed before
attempting to power an external device connected to the 200LX while the
200LX is being powered by the same supply.

Regards. Nacho.

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I USE UTAH EDIT AND KEEP MY LOG IN JUST PLAIN ASCII IN COLLUMS. UTAH
EDIT IS PLAIN, NO CONTROL CHARACTERS OR ANYTHING. ALTERNATIVES MIGHT BE
QEDIT OR MULTI-EDIT SHAREWARE.

LOTUS OR A DATABASE COMPATABLE PROGRAM TAKE TOO MUCH EXTRA MEMORY. IF
YOU WANT TO KEEP IT IN SHORTEST FORM, THEN USE THE DATABASE COMMA
DELIMITED FORM AND IMPORT TO VIEW ONLY. THIS WILL KEEP YOUR STORAGE
SPACE TO A MINIMUM. I JUST DO NOT LIKE THE HP 200LX NOTE TAKER OR MEMO
FORM.

BOYD S. (SPENCE) MINER K4KEP
(EX W9QNI, KA7MB[JAPAN], F7AH, VE4/W9QNI, VE5/W9QNI, VO2/W9QNI

TOSHIAKI KUROSAKI wrote:
>
> TO:   hplx-l @ uconnvm.uconn.edu
> cc:
> SUBJ: Ham log soft for 200LX
>
> To all amateur radio station who use 200lx,
>
> Please let me know the useful and simple logging soft fittable
> for 200LX.
>
> Thanks.....
>
> JA0KSB
>
> T. KUrosaki
>

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Hi everyone,

I have a 200LX with 2 Panasonic P3SPA NiCa batteries (1.25 650mAh each).
Anyone knows if it's a problem if I plug the charger to use the palmtop,
even if the batteries are loaded? I don't have (yet) ABC/LX to take care of
the charging so I'm afraid off damaging the batteries. Any light?

Thanks

Take care...



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As long as those cells are normal NiCa formula... nothing exotic, then
you can use the NiCa setting.

Phil

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>
>Hi everyone,
>
>I have a 200LX with 2 Panasonic P3SPA NiCa batteries (1.25 650mAh each).
>Anyone knows if it's a problem if I plug the charger to use the palmtop,
>even if the batteries are loaded? I don't have (yet) ABC/LX to take care of
>the charging so I'm afraid off damaging the batteries. Any light?
>
>Thanks
>
>Take care...
>
>
>
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Does anyone have a 12V lx powersupply for sale, or know where to get a
good one for a good price?

.M

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Erling, Marshall N wrote:

> Does anyone have a 12V lx powersupply for sale, or know where to get a
>
> good one for a good price?

Get the HP adapter.  It'll run you a little money-- ~$35 or so
mail-order-- but it's well worth it.  It's very small, has a long cord,
and the prongs that plug into the wall fold into the adapter!  Very
high-tech.  It's definitely worth the money.

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radio shack #273-1653

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Hi,

Does anyone knows of anything against the use of the new Phillips
graphite batteries in the 200LX?

regards

Antonio

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At 09:56 AM 30/09/97 +0200, you wrote:
>>N.B. - Such an external box could tap the DC plug on the palmtop -- have a
>Y adapter
>>for your transformer and run both palmtop and HD off the same power
>supply.  Hard
>>drives run off 12V dc, just like our beloved HP.  You would need a small
>converter to do
>>the 5v line on the power harness, tho.

I have a parrallel port hard drive in a little box that hooks into any
normal Parrallel port. Do any of you technical types know how it may be
converted to work on the LX? Maybe a PCMCIA Card that has a parrallel I/O?
If it can be done the Box can print through to a Parrallel printer as well.

BTW it uses 5v power from either the keyboard or a plugpack adapter on a
desktop computer. It was demonstrated I believe on a palm sized XT (Not
sure). I've used it on 286/386/486 and 686 Machines running dos,3.11 and
Win95 although win95 screams that it is being slowed down <grin>  More good
news is that the circuit board and box hold a 2 1/2 inch standard drive.
There is also one that holds a 3 1/2 inch drive but needs a 12v power
supply. What I have done is use old drives as backups as I increased the
size of my disks in various machines. 500 Meg is the size at present in a
box       1"X3 1/2"X4 3/4 " Approx price of the box is US$120 each ex Taiwan.


On the tech side I believe the software hooks into INT 13 on bootup. I am
not familiar if a serial connection could allow this on the LX. The software
is only 13K so should be ok size wise.  I've faxed the manufacturer to find
more info.

Thanks for all the suggestions and shortcuts from all. For me the info in
this list is invaluable.

Cheers from Brisbane Australia.

Russell

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I've heard that it is useful to discharge NiCad batteries from time to
time.
Is there an application on the LX that can accomplish this in addition
to charging?

.M

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Erling, Marshall N wrote:

> I've heard that it is useful to discharge NiCad batteries from time to
>
> time.
> Is there an application on the LX that can accomplish this in addition
>
> to charging?

Sure... play a lot of Tetris.  :)
Actually, there's not really an application that I know of that will
discharge the batteries.  The only thing you could do to increase power
usage is write to the screen and disk a lot.  A PCMCIA modem would
probably be the surest bet you have-- slap it in and stay connected
until the batteries die.

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The LX will not charge the batteries unless you tell it in Setup/Batter=
y.
So - no problems

Regards,
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As long as those cells are normal NiCa formula... nothing exotic, then
you can use the NiCa setting.

Phil

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>
>Hi everyone,
>
>I have a 200LX with 2 Panasonic P3SPA NiCa batteries (1.25 650mAh each=
).
>Anyone knows if it's a problem if I plug the charger to use the palmto=
p,
>even if the batteries are loaded? I don't have (yet) ABC/LX to take ca=
re of
>the charging so I'm afraid off damaging the batteries. Any light?
>
>Thanks
>
>Take care...
>
>
>
>******************************************
>             Cadu Pennachin
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>       mailto:cadu@u-netsys.com.br
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On Tue, 30 Sep 1997  "Erling, Marshall N" wrote:

> I've heard that it is useful to discharge NiCad batteries from time=
 to
> time. Is there an application on the LX that can accomplish this in
> addition to charging?


Nope. If you COMPLETELY discharged your NiCads in the palmtop, you
would almost certainly lose the contents of drive C. If it could be
done, it would take at least a couple of hours of on-time after the
Lo-bat warning comes on. During which the palmtop would try to use the
backup coin cell.

Incidentally, the best way to completely discharge NiCads is
individually. Completely discharging the cells in groups results in=
 the
weakest cell being subjected to reverse voltage. You can get single=
 AA
cell holders at RadioShack, wire them each to separate bulbs (in
sockets) put in your NiCads, and let 'em run down. After this
conditioning, you'll usually find that they'll charge to a somewhat
higher voltage, and give longer use.

-PR
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Hello,

Is there anybody that is a member of Compuserve? I need an archive
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Please, can anybody help me?

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I've got an EXP ThinFax Basic LX modem with the built-in ThinFax
software. What I'd like to do is install the fax software to my C drive
since my Megahertz XJ144 modem is so much quicker than the EXP card. I
can copy the files with no problem to my C drive but the software won't
run without having the EXP card in the slot. I guess the reason this is
done is to keep people from pirating the software to their friends and
neighbors :-) but since I'm the "legal licensee" I should be able to use
it as I see fit. Does anyone know how I can configure the software or
even the HP to run the software without the EXP card? I really like the
software but also like the speed and convienence of my X-Jack since I
don't have to carry around an extra adapter. Any comments would be welcomed.

73 de KF4KGQ
Jeff Johns
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Jeff,

Ive got a question about your XJ144 modem. Are you able to use it with the
HP without the AC adapter connected. Ive got one and it works fine on my
notebook, but it refuses to operate on the HP. Im not sure if its power, or
if
I need a drive or what?  Any ideas?

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 9:21 PM
>
> I've got an EXP ThinFax Basic LX modem with the built-in ThinFax
> software. What I'd like to do is install the fax software to my C drive
> since my Megahertz XJ144 modem is so much quicker than the EXP card. I
> can copy the files with no problem to my C drive but the software won't
> run without having the EXP card in the slot. I guess the reason this is
> done is to keep people from pirating the software to their friends and
> neighbors :-) but since I'm the "legal licensee" I should be able to use
> it as I see fit. Does anyone know how I can configure the software or
> even the HP to run the software without the EXP card? I really like the
> software but also like the speed and convienence of my X-Jack since I
> don't have to carry around an extra adapter. Any comments would be
welcomed.
>
> 73 de KF4KGQ
> Jeff Johns
> jeffj@scott.net
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The Xjack works great in my 200LX, granted the battery life isn't that
great, but it's good enough to grab my mail several times a day. The
longest I can stay online with the AC adapter is about 20-30 minutes
continuosly depending on how well charged the NiCds are. I use the the
Radio Shack High Capacity Nicads. By the way, do you have the card modem
driver installed in your autoexec.bat file?

73 de KF4KGQ
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I don't think you and I are on the same wavelength, Nacho.  I
don't understand what you're talking about, but here's what I
was thinking of.

                                        hard drive
AC power --- Plug-in 12V transformer ----------- <
                                        200LX

So one transformer, attached to a mains supply (an outlet) supplies
power to both devices.  I think it would work.  The only thing is,
3 1/2 inch drives need a 5v power source as well as a 12V source.
You would need to add a small step-down transformer inside the
box with the hard drive in it, to supply the proper voltage.

The little book of ads that came with my 200 had a PCMCIA to
IDE converter card.  It allowed you to plug a 2 1/2 inch hard
drive into anything with a PCMCIA slot.  The problem inherent
with that is that 2 1/2 HDs take all their operating power from the
adapter card -- something which I believe would tax the system
power beyond the 150mA limit.

I've considered the issue further, however.  If I recall correctly, the
IDE (or ATA, if you prefer) setup is a system-level interface, which
means hard drive specifics (such as disk diameter) are irrelevant.  If
this is true, it means the adapter could run 3 1/2 inch IDE drives as
well.

<10 minutes later, Ian returns to his computer, after having discovered
that he wasn't just rambling.  A quick check with his hardware bible
was all he needed to convince himself that he was correct.  Indeed, the
IDE interface _is_ system level, which is what he was preaching all
along.>

Ian Butler
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
Check the dull homepage at <http://www.caspers.net/ianrb/>
200LX Programmers Group page coming soon! <~/200lx.html>

"P.S.  People like you ought to be shot." -- Myself

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>N.B. - Such an external box could tap the DC plug on the palmtop -- have=
 a
> Y adapter for your transformer and run both palmtop and HD off the
> same power supply.  Hard drives run off 12V dc, just like our beloved =
HP.
> You would need a small converter to do the 5v line on the power harness=
, tho.

Just a comment about this matter: the external plug ground doesn't need =
to
be connected to the HP200LX ground (and thus, the drive ground). This can
cause nasty current loops, and very nasty things can happen (from
malfunction to permanent damage). I actually don't know how the DC-DC
converter at the plug input is, but think a check would be needed before
attempting to power an external device connected to the 200LX while the
200LX is being powered by the same supply.

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On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Erling, Marshall N wrote:

> I've heard that it is useful to discharge NiCad batteries from time to
> time.
> Is there an application on the LX that can accomplish this in addition
> to charging?

1)Plug HP200LX into powersupply.
2)Remove NiCad batteries.
3)Insert batteries into cheap flashlight.
4)Turn on flashlight.
5)Go away for several hours.
6)Come back and find batteries discharged.

David

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I use and XJ144 on my 200LX all the time. I have two and both work. Though
I have seen one that did not.

karl

At 09:31 PM 9/30/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Jeff,
>
>Ive got a question about your XJ144 modem. Are you able to use it with the
>HP without the AC adapter connected. Ive got one and it works fine on my
>notebook, but it refuses to operate on the HP. Im not sure if its power, or
>if
>I need a drive or what?  Any ideas?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan
>driden@stlnet.com
>
>----------
>> From: Jeff <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
>> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>> Subject: ThinFax Software
>> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 9:21 PM
>>
>> I've got an EXP ThinFax Basic LX modem with the built-in ThinFax
>> software. What I'd like to do is install the fax software to my C drive
>> since my Megahertz XJ144 modem is so much quicker than the EXP card. I
>> can copy the files with no problem to my C drive but the software won't
>> run without having the EXP card in the slot. I guess the reason this is
>> done is to keep people from pirating the software to their friends and
>> neighbors :-) but since I'm the "legal licensee" I should be able to use
>> it as I see fit. Does anyone know how I can configure the software or
>> even the HP to run the software without the EXP card? I really like the
>> software but also like the speed and convienence of my X-Jack since I
>> don't have to carry around an extra adapter. Any comments would be
>welcomed.
>>
>> 73 de KF4KGQ
>> Jeff Johns
>> jeffj@scott.net
>>
>>     **This message was sent via UNIX, PINE and an HP200LX Palmtop PC
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Date:         Tue, 30 Sep 1997 19:48:57 -0800
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>At 09:56 AM 30/09/97 +0200, you wrote:
>>>N.B. - Such an external box could tap the DC plug on the palmtop -- have a
>>Y adapter
>>>for your transformer and run both palmtop and HD off the same power
>>supply.  Hard
>>>drives run off 12V dc, just like our beloved HP.  You would need a small
>>converter to do
>>>the 5v line on the power harness, tho.
>
>I have a parrallel port hard drive in a little box that hooks into any
>normal Parrallel port. Do any of you technical types know how it may be
>converted to work on the LX? Maybe a PCMCIA Card that has a parrallel I/O?
>If it can be done the Box can print through to a Parrallel printer as well.

I'm currently using a Transdigital PC card parallel port for my Shark 250
drive and it works great. The card is default configured for standard LPT1
irq's etc. and driver install is fully configurable. Re; the power I use a
separate adapter for the drive unit.

Bill Buzan

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Date:         Tue, 30 Sep 1997 22:20:23 -0500
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Dan Ridenhour wrote:
>
> Jeff,
>
> Ive got a question about your XJ144 modem. Are you able to use it with the
> HP without the AC adapter connected. Ive got one and it works fine on my
> notebook, but it refuses to operate on the HP. Im not sure if its power, or
> if
> I need a drive or what?  Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
> driden@stlnet.com
>
>
Dan, I have an XJ2144 modem (14.4) that I use in my 200LX.
The modem works fine without an AC adapter (I don't even own
one!). It will drain a pair of AA alkaline batts. in about 40
minutes on line though. Is the XJ2144 the modem that you are talking
about?
-Bryan

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Date:         Tue, 30 Sep 1997 23:39:07 -0400
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On Sun, 28 Sep 1997, Ron Beckley wrote:

> I use the DOS version of Automap on my HP200.  I run it off a 10 meg.
> card.  I reduce the program down to essential files and it takes up
> approx. 2.7 meg.  Runs much faster than Automap Trip Planner under
> Windows 95 with a 486/75.

Is the DOS version still available?

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> Incidentally, the best way to completely discharge NiCads is
> individually. Completely discharging the cells in groups results in the
> weakest cell being subjected to reverse voltage. You can get single AA
> cell holders at RadioShack, wire them each to separate bulbs (in
> sockets) put in your NiCads, and let 'em run down. After this
> conditioning, you'll usually find that they'll charge to a somewhat
> higher voltage, and give longer use.

Better yet, look for a small penlight flashlight that takes a single AA
battery, put them in one at a time, and leave it on....

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> From: B Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: ThinFax Software
> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 10:20 PM
>
> Dan Ridenhour wrote:
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Ive got a question about your XJ144 modem. Are you able to use it with
the
> > HP without the AC adapter connected. Ive got one and it works fine on
my
> > notebook, but it refuses to operate on the HP. Im not sure if its
power, or
> > if
> > I need a drive or what?  Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dan
> > driden@stlnet.com
> >
> >
> Dan, I have an XJ2144 modem (14.4) that I use in my 200LX.
> The modem works fine without an AC adapter (I don't even own
> one!). It will drain a pair of AA alkaline batts. in about 40
> minutes on line though. Is the XJ2144 the modem that you are talking
> about?
> -Bryan

Brian, I am using an XJ2144 modem as well. I think my problem is a really
stupid one. I have lost my Serial Cable, and had not installed the software
driver for the modem on my HP.

Thanks,

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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