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10h06m24s ago ...
On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:09:45 -0800, Questor Jones wrote:

> I have three questions/subjects:
>
> 1) What is the best card/phone combo to use on the LX
> in terms of ease of install, battery life, etc.

See http://www.daniel-hertrich.de
There is variety :)

> 2) I have used HV.exe, does anyone know how to make
> the fonts bigger?

See fonts section in HV.CFG. You can specify fonts for
normal/bold/italics/fixed and also Header1-4.

> 3) I would like to do offline reading with HV.exe, but
> I don't use LXTCP stuff and get.exe seems to want to
> use those.  Is there any easy way to download pages on
> PC for easy viewing using HV.EXE or some other
> program.  I just want to specify a page and depth and
> load it web extracted data onto my CF card to read it
> later.

See http://www.dasoft.com, and look for ROBOWEB/LX

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On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:09:45 -0800, Questor Jones wrote:

> I have three questions/subjects:
>
> 1) What is the best card/phone combo to use on the LX
> in terms of ease of install, battery life, etc.

I use a Ericsson T39m and are satisfied. Batterylife is better than the
Nokia 6210 I had before. But these phones only works with WWW/LXif you
want to use Irda.

Check out Daniel's excellent website about Hplx<->cellphones.

http://daniel.hplx.net

> 2) I have used HV.exe, does anyone know how to make
> the fonts bigger?

I think this is explained in Hv.cfg under Fonts

> 3) I would like to do offline reading with HV.exe, but
> I don't use LXTCP stuff and get.exe seems to want to
> use those.  Is there any easy way to download pages on
> PC for easy viewing using HV.EXE or some other
> program.  I just want to specify a page and depth and
> load it web extracted data onto my CF card to read it
> later.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.

Tony is the man to talk too about this. His ROBOWEB/LX can do anything
you want.

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On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 11:50:18 -0800, Questor Jones wrote:

> Does anyone know of a place that sells a light for the
> 100LX?
>
> I know I can build one, but I think that would cost
> more in time and effort than it would be to buy one
> from someplace.
>
> Also, along the lines of building one, has anyone ever
> adapted a GameBoy Snake light for use with a 100LX?
> Seems like it would be a time-save in the creation
> process.

We have had the Snakelight in the store where I work. I do not think
that it has the quality that is needed to be usefull. We did not sell
many before we stopped. I think we got them all back, because they
stopped working. Not sure why though. They were just dead.

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Thu,  1 Nov 2001 21:55:09 +1300 (NZDT)

01h04m06s ago ...
On Thu,  1 Nov 2001 02:51:03 -0500, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> I use a Ericsson T39m and are satisfied. Batterylife is
> better than the Nokia 6210 I had before. But these phones
> only works with WWW/LXif you want to use Irda.

I have got used to the T39 too - battery seems to last forever
:) Finally when someone calls I now just flip the flap - before
I flipped and pressed "yes", which put the caller on hold
immediately<G>. The local GPRS provider is so concerned about
my poor signal at home they are sending someone out to test!
In the CBD it is fine. One trick I have learned though is the
"battery reboot" - after this GPRS *always* works well. This
could be a problem with the way they "tune" GPRS here - maybe
too high a "re-use factor" and too much "shadowing" or whatever
they call it.

> Tony is the man to talk too about this. His ROBOWEB/LX can
> do anything you want.

Hehe. It can import a tree while totally offline, and re-index
it (w/o POST/LX) but I think Questor may be able to maybe
download his HTML tree direct to a flashcard on his PC, then
just plug that into the palmtop. Maybe a drive letter would
need to be globally replaced to have the links work.

Martin, I got a shock when I received my first GPRS bill .. but
they tell me it will get cheaper "soon" :)

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Does anyone knows why the Alleycat game doesn4t work 100% on my 200lx?
The windows are opening too slow, and no objects are dropping from them.
I can4t enter in the rooms too.
Help please!
Gustavo R Leal.
BRAZIL





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Daniel wrote:

> Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:
> > I don't think playing with the stacks word in config.sys will
> > have anything to do with it.  That's about stacks used by
> > hardware interrupts if I remember right.

> I has not helped indeed.

    The STACKS in CONFIG.SYS is for MS-DOS internal stacks.
MS-DOS uses its internal stacks when servicing interrupts.
Stack overflows occur (usually) when interrupts are happening
faster than they are serviced.  Or when a user's program has
been constained in memory (but usually different symptoms).
There are some PC Magazine utilities to determine how many
stack positions are actually used to set STACKS to the proper
value.  STACKS=0,0 usually works, STACKS=9,256 is for debug
purposes (sort of) when 0,0 dosen't work.

    You could run the stack monitoring utilities before (and
after) your macros to see if something is filling the stacks
and not returning properly.  However, I think you need to
see if something is taking _much_ longer to complete now than
it used to, so MS-DOS is prevented from normal operation and
can't service a recurring interrupt.

    I think the error message can also be generated (in error?)
when COMMAND.COM is corrupted or reloaded incorrectly.  In
that case a hard reset and cold boot to reset memory may help.
Or you may just be out of usable memory at some point in your
macro.

Good luck,

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> I have now removed all TSR which are not _very_
> necessary, and now it worked last night.

There's no way to be sure but there's a pretty good chance
you're just running out of memory.  All programs are supposed to
detect that situation and return an error and just terminate
gracefully.

But in fact that's the easiest place to find a bug in a program.
It's difficult for the programmer to figure out all the places
the program can run out of memory.  Especially in a complex
program.  So they pick the most likely spots and protect them.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Nov 2001 18:31:46 +0200
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Here I must butt in.

I have been a Delphi programmer for the last 5 years.

Borland made the mistake of naming it Delphi rather than "Kickass Visual
Pascal" .
I bet very few of you know about Kylix. Once again Borland not going for a
name like "RAD Visual Pascal for Linux". That is the first RAD cross
platform tool with native compilers for Linux / Solaris, based on Pascal. (I
think). (They call it Object Pascal; I call it Delphi. It's one and the
same, except for the operating system differences.).

Delphi/Pascal is extremely easy to read - more so than C++, creates very
efficient binary code (can be used to create Device drivers, Windows
services, Web Servers, Web applications, Database servers, etc, etc. Low
level stuff in other words.

So Pascal is not dead - not by a long shot. It's just called Delphi / Kylix
these days.

Spread the good news. :-P

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Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal 7.0


> I would agree. Pascal was all the rage in Computer Science departments
about
> 10 years ago, but it has faded away. Just had too many limitations. (I
have
> heard it refered to as a "B&D" -- as in Bondage and Discipline -- language
> because of the restrictions it imposed on programmers.)

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TP 7 is very slow on the 200LX single speed - it also requires a fair amount
of space on the CF card.

You can try ealier versions - Turbo Pascal 5 will work quite well, and Turbo
Pascal 3 / Turbo BSD ?? have been coded with XT's in mind.

Any program developed in TP 7 without "Protected mode" should work fine in
the HP. This was one of my main motivations for buying the HP in the first
place.

I will be happy to assist anyone with Pascal programming - I'm not a guru,
but I'm accomplished. - refer to my other OT mail on Delphi !!!! Much better
to learn Pascal with - you can always apply the knowledge gained from Delphi
(3 and above) to normal HP - Pascal coding...

Donald Klopper
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----- Original Message -----
From: John J Vander Stel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 2:19 AM
Subject: Turbo Pascal 7.0


> Hi all,
>
> I just found a book for $2.50 on the shelf of our local goodwill shop
> called, "Turbo Pascal Programming 101" and it has me intrigued.  It's a
> book aimed at beginners, and it sounds like Turbo Pascal 7.0 for DOS is
> an excellent programming language.  I think that I would enjoy learning
> that language.  Can anyone tell me if it will run on my double speed
> 32meg HP200LX?  If so, are there any installation problems or tips that I
> should be aware of?
>
> Also, does anyone know where I could find a copy of Turbo Pascal 7.0?
>
> Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
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A little more information: Looks like Xybernaut is doing this in
conjunction with Hitachi. Hitachi selling the same product as a
'Wearable Internet Appliance', see
www.hitachi.co.jp/Prod/vims/wia/eng/main.html (page is in English)
Some further info from Xybernaut: Cost estimated to be $1,495 and
battery life of ONLY 3 hours.... This last kills it for me.....
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Longden Loo writes:
> > it worked well, and i included auto123.wk1 in the my'money.zip for anyone
> to
> > try. .. just one question, using auto123 - how do i get an empty
> worksheet
> > in order to create a new file (without leaving Lotus)?
>
> /wey
>
> Worksheet Erase Yes
>
> This just erases the current in-memory worksheet, not the disk file
> version.
>

I have a saved worksheet called ABLANK.WK1 which has only macros defined for
ALT-S "save" and ALT-A "save as". I treat this as a "blank" worksheet. I call
it "ABLANK" so that it appears first when i start up lotus with auto123

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What is Alleycat?

Cheers... Russ


Gustavo R Leal wrote:
> Does anyone knows why the Alleycat game doesn4t work 100% on my 200lx?
> The windows are opening too slow, and no objects are dropping from them.
> I can4t enter in the rooms too.

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<I just moved to a new appartment, and realized that
<there's
<no phone lines.
<So, I began wonder that can Omnigo 700lx with Nokia
<2110 cellular phone
<be used as (slow) wireless modem with a desktop PC? I
<already tried
<Comlink, but it just didn't understand the datacard
<as modem. Any handy
<tricks for this?

Hi,

A program called COMMLINK may be able to help you. It
makes the PCMCIA modem in the palmtop usable by a
Desktop computer. Maybe it will also work with the HP
Omnigo's internal modem. Download this program at
SUPER:
http://www.palmtop.net/super.html

Cheers,

Inigo


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Using POST/LX 3.1a I have a problem if I use an external modem
connected to COM1:

Even with slow baud rate (9600) I have a very poor transmission, often
ending with time out. I have this since IRDA has been introduced in
POST/LX 2.x (I believe Andreas took some measures in POST/LX to make
IRDA connections to mobile phones more reliable (EMI problems)).

This happened with several modems I used (U.S. Robotics, Zyxel,
Ericsson phones with RS232 cables).

N.B. This problem occurs only with POST/LX, but not with HV, FTP, etc!

Mostly I used a PCMCIA modem, but now I tried to connect an Ericsson
T39m mobile phone via RS232 cable and again I found this problem.

Has anybody else experienced the same?

Josef Meyer

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Hi Gustavo

On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:37:21 -0200, Gustavo R Leal <rybarczykbr@YAHOO.COM.BR> wrote:

> Does anyone knows why the Alleycat game doesn4t work 100% on my 200lx?
> The windows are opening too slow, and no objects are dropping from them.
> I can4t enter in the rooms too.

There seem to be various version of alleycat arround (patched / cracked
versions?).

I have a version here which you can play fairly well on the LX, but
which can"t be exited anymore with the usual ctrl-z hotkey. YOu hvae to
reboot in order to quit it.

I can send it to you, if you want. Please, send me your version, I'd
like to compare these two.

Oh - do you have a double speed palmtop? If not, this could also be a
reason that the game is slow.

oops - kitty, kitty, kitty! :-)

daniel

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Date:         Fri, 2 Nov 2001 13:52:18 +0200
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Hi friends,

reviewing my log statistics regarding access to the subpages of my
homepage, I noticed that there were lots of access attempts to
www.daniel-hertrich.de/lxbackup

I'm sorry, but this URL is not correct (I must have referred to it in
one of my postings here).

The correct URL is

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/backuplx

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 2 Nov 2001 14:39:49 +0200
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Hi Josef

On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 12:00:52 +0100, Josef Meyer <meyerj@SWISSONLINE.CH> wrote:

> N.B. This problem occurs only with POST/LX, but not with HV, FTP, etc!

I have never seen such a behaviour, but since it only occurs with
Post/LX, this makes me think it is NOT a general connection problem,
such as a bad phone line or the wrong transmission protocol /
compression on modem (=hardware) layer.

Even TCP should have nothing to do with that, because HV works.

Could it be that it dependson your email provider? Which one is it? Did
you try anotherone? Maybe the email provider's servers are slow and
unreliable.

Or, in the worst case, the email provider uses bad implementations of
the POP and SMTP protocol.

Another source of problems could be bad settings in post.cfg.

If you post your relevant post.cfg lines here (without the password
line, of course!! ;-) ), maybe something gets clearer.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sat, 3 Nov 2001 02:53:59 +1300
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Sat,  3 Nov 2001 02:30:48 +1300 (NZDT)

02h29m56s ago ...
On Fri,  2 Nov 2001 12:00:52 +0100, Josef Meyer wrote:

> Using POST/LX 3.1a I have a problem if I use an external
> modem connected to COM1:

<snip>

> N.B. This problem occurs only with POST/LX, but not with
> HV, FTP, etc!

This means the WWW/LX setup is fine and the hardware
(port/cable etc) is fine.
I wonder if there is something unusual about the way you run
POST.EXE.

> Mostly I used a PCMCIA modem,

Oh, that means your POST/LX setup is fine too!

> but now I tried to connect an Ericsson T39m mobile phone
> via RS232 cable and again I found this problem.

So, again, does HV and FTP work, but not POST/LX, via this
cable?

If so, is their any pattern in where POST/LX times out?
Is it when waiting for a POP server to respond, or while trying
to send an e-mail, or in the middle of receiving an e-mail?

> Has anybody else experienced the same?

I haven't and I can't imagine what the problem could be.
Possibly something to do with data flow patterns using POP3 and
SMTP - as compared with HTTP and FTP? A relation between that
and the serial port UART?

I use a USRobotics 56K external modem here, with WWW/LX. I
have Baud=19200 and ModemInit=AT&F1. Works really well. One
interesting experiment would be to try using a different
palmtop if you have one.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Nov 2001 15:58:27 +0100
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Josef Meyer wrote:
>
> Using POST/LX 3.1a I have a problem if I use an external modem
> connected to COM1:
> Has anybody else experienced the same?

I use POST/LX alternatively with
 - a 3COM USRobotics 56K external modem
 - two 14.4k and one 56k PCMCIA modem and
 - IrDA through a 8810
and I have ZERO problems.

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Micha Klopper wrote:
> Delphi/Pascal is extremely easy to read - more
> so than C++, creates very efficient binary code
> (can be used to create Device drivers, Windows
> services, Web Servers, Web applications,
> Database servers, etc, etc. Low level stuff in
> other words.

C and C++ are used to write those things, too.  Sometimes
assembly is used to optimize things but that happens less and
less as computers get faster.

I don't know much about Delphi but I've played with Pascal a bit
learning how certain algorithms work because the sampe I found
was in Pascal.  I agree that it's a perfectly good language.
And for a Pascal programmer, it's probably a lot more readable.

I'm a C programmer and I think C is easier to read.

Of course I'm totally unbiased. :)

I do think for someone who wants to program his 200lx C is the
better choice because there's so much sample code available for
the 200lx.  I don't think Pascal is a bad choice either.  I do
think I'd reccomend an older version than 7.0 just because of
the speed of the 200lx and the demands of the IDE.  Actually I'd
probably reccomend not using the IDE.  The debugger won't work
on the 200lx anyway.

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Hi friends, especailly Ericsson T39m users!

I'm currently developing a program which should be capable to copy the
HPLX phone book onto a mobile phone via IrDa. It wil be named PDB2PHN.

It does that by using a cdf file created by gdbio as its input,
creating a simpl output file and then robot/lx with the phone.scr
script shall take that output file and send the contents to the phone.

I can already create that file. But everytime I try to use phone.scr to
send it to the phone, it fails. It even overwrites the file it actually
should use to send it. :-(

Martin, Tony, Josef,... does anyone of you have experiences with the
phone.scr script? Does it work without modification with the T39m?

I use this line on my post.cfg external section to transfer the phone
book:

Upload Phone book to &MEM=robot "phone put me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt"

When I try to execute it, phonemem.txt is overwritten by a 0 byte file.
:-(

I saw in the phone.scr itself in the comments that one should place
quotes around the arguments. I tried this either, but then it seemed to
ignore the arguments...

Thanks a lot for your help
daniel


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Date:         Fri, 2 Nov 2001 08:40:18 +0000
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Micha Klopper <micha@ICON.CO.ZA> writes

>So Pascal is not dead - not by a long shot. It's just called Delphi / Kylix
>these days.
>
>Spread the good news. :-P

Thanks for saying what I was going to say. Pascal is indeed a very
elegant and useful language, and Delphi is an incredibly powerful
implementation. In addition to being a RAD product, don't forget that it
is fully object oriented(*) which opens up a whole new world of
excitement to jaded programmers! Chief architect was Anders Hejlsberg,
who was head-hunted by Microsoft to lead the development of C#. I reckon
either he was offered $1 million a year or Mr Gates has the negatives.

The only reason Pascal is "dead", is nothing to do with any failing of
the language or implementation. It's because brain dead IT directors,
particularly in this country (UK) blindly follow the Microsoft trail of
second-rate crashing bloatware. Not for fear of being wrong, but for
fear of being in a minority. I've never spoke to any developer who has
_used_, say MS Visual C++ and Delphi, who wouldn't use Delphi in
preference. I mean _used_ as opposed to used one and look at the other
for 5 minutes.

On the 200, I use Borland's Turbo Pascal 5.5 which is freely available
from their website. Lost the link, but look for "Community" then
"Museum". Full IDE, help files, debugging (some limitations on 200),
etc. I also use their (also free) Turbo C 2.01 and Turbo C++ 1.01. The
C++ compiler is much slower than the C; particularly noticeable on the
200. The benefits of having OO for a program of the size you're likely
to develop _on_ a palmtop (as opposed to _for_ a palmtop) means that the
C compiler is the better bet, IMO.

(*) No multiple inheritance, but most think that's a blessing. In
emergencies, use interfaces, a la COM.
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Date:         Fri, 2 Nov 2001 08:50:26 -0800
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Hi Josef,

I enjoyed the topic of the email you sent privately: SUCCESS!
<G>

As I wrote to you in private on the Post/LX issue, I think it
is not necessarily a Post/LX problem, or a configuration of it
even, but possibly an ISP, as Daniel also speculated. Don't
forget that most ISPs use more than one machine, and they
generally put the functions in separate machines. It is
possible that their email machine is misconfigured. It is
possible their machine is overloaded. When D&A was hosted by
its previous host, the FTP machine was extraordinarily slow -
I think I clocked it at over 60 seconds to respond many many
times. They never figured out why, but I put together D&A's
alternative files download "site" just for that reason.

It is also possible that they misconfigured their own servers
and things are dismal for that reason.

I made a suggestion for you to try out another ISP and also
2 items how to do it.

Pls let us all know, or in private, makes no difference.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Nov 2001 09:38:45 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Help formatting 440MB PC Card
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John,

Sorry to hear yours is doing the same :-(

Got an Email from John Richardson at Mass5thCav. He seems like a stand up
guy! Offered to replace or refund (my Option).
I will forward his msg to you.

Here are the steps I went through:
After installing the acecard3.com driver into the c drive config.sys on my
200lx as
"device=c:acecard3.com /sdp"
In 200lx DS from DOS (in filer, menu, O, D, to get to DOS:

d:\bin\Fdisk100 gives:
 "Fdisk is not needed for card in slot A:"

d:\dos\format A: gives:
"insert new disk...etc"
"Checking existing disk format"
"Formatting 64k"
"Invalid Media or Track 0 bad - disk unusable"
"Format Terminated"
"Format Another (Y/N)?"

Tried a power book. Was not able to see the card in any mode.

Tried an NT laptop(compaq) was not able to sense until card was removed,
then gave
"unknown 16 bit card in D:"
Unable to Fdisk or format the card in the Compaq.

Called Sandisk and described the card and errors. they think that the card
is bad.

Tried my 200lx single speed backup unit :
After installing the acecard3.com driver into the c drive config.sys on my
200lx as
"device=c:acecard3.com /sdp"
 from DOS (in filer, menu, O, D, to get to DOS:

d:\bin\Fdisk100 gives:
 "Fdisk is not needed for card in slot A:"

d:\dos\format A: gives:
"insert new disk...etc"
"Checking existing disk format"
"Formatting 3.07M"
"Invalid Media or Track 0 bad - disk unusable"
"Format Terminated"
"Format Another (Y/N)?"

Let me know how it goes with you as I would like to get a replacement
instead of refund if a 440mb can be made to work.

PS I will forward this to the HPLX list as well

Joe






"John A. Evans - N0HJ" <jaevans@codenet.net> on 11/01/2001 06:43:00 PM

To:    Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM
cc:

Subject:  Re: Help formating 440MB PC Card


Joe,

  I received my card from Mass5thCav today.  Card reacts the same way yours
did, so we are both in the same boat.  My win98 Omnibook 800CT could not
format it.  It sees it in the card slot, but only as a slot 1 device and
not
as an IDE hard drive controller.  I'll take this guy to work tomorrow and
see if I can get a notebook there to recognize it and/or redo the partition
and format it.

  How is your quest going??  I will document each step if I am successful
tomorrow - you do the same if you get further along.

tnx,
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Date:         Fri, 2 Nov 2001 10:07:09 -0800
Reply-To:     Ron Zhang <Ron.Zhang@Sun.COM>
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From:         Ron Zhang <Ron.Zhang@SUN.COM>
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I can only get to the point where auto123.wk1 is opened every time I push
the 123 button, but it won't automatically execute the "\O" macro in cell
A1. I have to push Alt+O to get it to work. Any idea?

Thanks.

Ron

>Date:    Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:57:55 +0100
>From:    Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
>Subject: Re: Lotus for banking
>
>Steve kindly suggested
>
> >Try this...If all goes well you will see a list of = files in
> >c:\_dat to select.
>
>it worked well, and i included auto123.wk1 in the my'money.zip for anyone
to
>try. .. just one question, using auto123 - how do i get an empty worksheet
>in order to create a new file (without leaving Lotus)?
>
> amities -
> Nathalie :)
>
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Date:         Fri, 2 Nov 2001 11:55:02 -0700
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I found the following on deja.com - the win95 machine I tried it on at work didn't have a type 40 drive so I couldn't uncheck/check the Int13 box, but will try this at home tonight on my win98 box.

Any experts who can comment on this??

john

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Partitioning a SanDisk FlashDisk or CompactFlash.

        Click on My Computer
        Click on Control Panel
        Click on System
        Click on Device Manager
        Click on View Devices by Type
        Double Click Disk Drives
        Double Click on GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE 80
        Choose the following settings:
                * Removable
                * Int 13**
        **IF Int13 is already checked, un-check the box, then re-check
the box.
        Choose OK
        Close Device Manager by choosing OK.
        The system will prompt you to restart.  Choose YES.
        Reboot your system by shutting down (Click on Start)

        After rebooting, go to DOS.
        Click on Start
        Point to Programs
        Point to MS-DOS Prompt

        Partitioning your SanDisk Card:
        At the DOS prompt (C:\>), type FDISK <ENTER>
        Type 5 for Change Current Fixed Disk Drive <ENTER>
        "Enter Fixed Disk Drive Number (1-2)"
        Type 2 <ENTER>
        Type 4 for Display Partition Information

        WARNING: MAKE SURE THAT THE "FIXED DISK" YOU HAVE CHOSEN IS
THE
CORRECT ONE (I.E., MAKE SURE THAT THE CAPACITY AGREES WITH THE
CAPACITY OF
YOUR PCMCIA CARD).  IF YOU ACCIDENTLY CHOOSE YOUR MAIN (C:) HARD DRIVE
AS
THE "FIXED DISK" YOU WANT TO PARTITION, YOU WILL LOSE ALL OF THE DATA
ON
THAT DRIVE!

        Now partition your SanDisk Card as you would an ordinary IDE
hard
drive.

        Formatting your SanDisk Card:
        At the C:\> prompt in DOS, type FORMAT D: <ENTER>
                Note: The above command assumes that your SanDisk Card
is
seen as drive D:.  If your situation                    is different,
substitute the appropriate drive letter.

        Now go back and make your SanDisk Card removable:
        Click on My Computer
        Click on Control Panel
        Click on System
        Click on Device Manager
        Click on View Devices by Connections
        Double Click on PCIC or Compatible PCMCIA Controller
        Double Click on SanDisk ATA FlashDisk
        Double Click on GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE 80
        Choose the following settings:
                * Removable
                * Int 13
        Choose OK
        Reboot your system by shutting down (Click on Start)

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Chris,

Boots normaly with the card in. When I go to Filer, display comes up as
full width (not split lik when my CF is in) and when I try read the A:
drive, gives me "Drive not ready"

Joe







Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com> on 11/02/2001 09:45:40 AM

Please respond to Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>

To:    Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM
cc:

Subject:  Re: Help formatting 440MB PC Card


Joe:

You don't specifically say, but what happens after you just boot,
before you start to try and FDISK and FORMAT it.  I presume you've
tried it, but what happens when you just type A: to try and change
to the disk?

-Chris

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Update on the Int13 technique.  I took a 64MB flash card I had, put it in the W95 notebook I have here at work and was able to define a type 80 IDE drive as removable, with the Int13 box checked/rechecked.  Upon reboot, the system sees my 64MB flash card as a removable drive.  Removing it and inserting the 440MB sandisk card does not result in fdisk seeing a second hard drive to be able to format.

If I could get a system to see an IDE device, I suspect I could get it to format.  No joy so far today.

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Date:         Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:44:03 +1300
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Sat,  3 Nov 2001 09:33:33 +1300 (NZDT)

05h54m18s ago ...
On Fri,  2 Nov 2001 16:39:15 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi friends, especailly Ericsson T39m users!

Hi Daniel - If you use the ROBOT.EXE that comes with
ROBOWEB/LX then the original phone.scr will work.

- Tony

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Date:         Fri, 2 Nov 2001 23:13:57 +0100
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Ron,

you need to set the Lotus 1-2-3 configuration accordingly to
auto-execute a macro upon file loading. (Freely translated from a German
200LX,) the steps are /Worksheet, Global, Defaults, and then you already
should see the parameter.

Good luck.
Norbert


Ron Zhang wrote:
>
> I can only get to the point where auto123.wk1 is opened every time I push
> the 123 button, but it won't automatically execute the "\O" macro in cell
> A1. I have to push Alt+O to get it to work. Any idea?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ron

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Date:         Fri, 2 Nov 2001 18:34:05 -0500
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Subject:      Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD
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Russ,

Costco in Hackensack, NJ, has a 128Meg Smartmedia card, ont a CF.  Is =
that what
you meant?  Maybe differnt Costco branches have different cards available.

Ron

>
> I just got a 128Meg Sandisk Compact Flash card at Costco for
> $59.99.
>
> Cheers... Russ
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Date:         Fri, 2 Nov 2001 19:58:24 -0800
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From:         Longden Loo <LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD
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The Costco's in Goleta and Oxnard, California had both
Smartmedia and CF versions of the 128mb card for $60.

- Longden

On 2 Nov 2001, at 18:34, Ron Burnett wrote:

> Russ,
>
> Costco in Hackensack, NJ, has a 128Meg Smartmedia card, ont a CF.  Is
> that what you meant?  Maybe differnt Costco branches have different
> cards available.
>
> Ron
>
> >
> > I just got a 128Meg Sandisk Compact Flash card at Costco for
> > $59.99.

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Date:         Sat, 3 Nov 2001 05:25:37 +0000
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Subject:      Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD
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FWIW
If you go to Costco's website and search on sandisk they sell the 128M CF a=
s available for $59.99.  Of course this is just for those that are "membe=
rs".
bob

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From: Longden Loo <LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 19:58:24 -0800
Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD

The Costco's in Goleta and Oxnard, California had both
Smartmedia and CF versions of the 128mb card for $60.

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Comments: To: Ron Zhang <Ron.Zhang@Sun.COM>
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> I can only get to the point where auto123.wk1 is opened every time I push
> the 123 button, but it won't automatically execute the "\O" macro in cell
> A1. I have to push Alt+O to get it to work. Any idea?

From 123 help:

If you want 1-2-3 to run a macro as soon as
you retrieve the worksheet that contains it,
name the macro \0 (backslash zero) and mark
Auto-execute Macros on in the Default Settings
dialog box or use /Worksheet Global Default
Autoexec.  Then select Update to save the
change in the configuration file so 1-2-3
uses the new setting in future sessions.

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Date:         Sat, 3 Nov 2001 08:32:37 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Tony

On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:44:03 +1300, Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ> wrote:

> Hi Daniel - If you use the ROBOT.EXE that comes with
> ROBOWEB/LX then the original phone.scr will work.
>

Yes, it is this version, I think.
How do you call phone.scr? With all the quotes or without?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 2 Nov 2001 23:45:17 -0800
Reply-To:     Questor Jones <questor_jones@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         Questor Jones <questor_jones@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      SanDisk 128M CF at for $50 on EBay
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All these cards didn't even sell at $50 each ...

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1289828012

Perhaps they will relist them again.

Questor
PS(I am not associated with this seller.)

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Date:         Sat, 3 Nov 2001 21:43:21 +1300
Reply-To:     Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ>
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Sat,  3 Nov 2001 21:28:32 +1300 (NZDT)

01h55m55s ago ...
On Sat,  3 Nov 2001 08:32:37 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> How do you call phone.scr? With all the quotes or without?

Oh, sorry - I see what you mean - this won't work:

Upload Phone book to &MEM=robot "phone put me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt"

From the DOS prompt, this works:

robot phone "put me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt"

so, for the external you need to put the above line in a bat
file, say PHONEPUT.BAT and have

Upload Phone book to &MEM=PHONEPUT.BAT

Or maybe better is to have a more generic bat

say ROBOFONE.BAT:

ROBOT PHONE "%1 %2 %3"

and have

Upload Phone book to &MEM=ROBOFONE.BAT put me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt

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Date:         Sat, 3 Nov 2001 01:01:50 -0800
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Questor Jones wrote:
> 2) I have used HV.exe, does anyone know how to make
> the fonts bigger?

Check the CFG! Also there is a fair amount of info in the HV
documentation.

> 3) I would like to do offline reading with HV.exe, but
> I don't use LXTCP stuff and get.exe seems to want to
> use those.  Is there any easy way to download pages on
> PC for easy viewing using HV.EXE or some other
> program.  I just want to specify a page and depth and
> load it web extracted data onto my CF card to read it
> later.

GET.EXE wants to use WWW.EXE.

WWW.EXE is a commercial product from D&A Software. Check out
http://www.dasoft.com...

  Avi M. D&A
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Your emails come in malformed!

Try making the macro name \0 not \O.

> Content-MD5: 7EncT3IY4+la6xjRzfDBnw=3D=3D
> X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.2 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc
> Message-ID:  <200111021807.KAA13751@homeworld.Eng.Sun.COM>
> Date:         Fri, 2 Nov 2001 10:07:09 -0800
> Reply-To: Ron Zhang <Ron.Zhang@Sun.COM>
> Sender: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> From: Ron Zhang <Ron.Zhang@Sun.COM>
> Subject:      Re: Lotus for banking
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>
> I can only get to the point where auto123.wk1 is opened every time I =
push
> the 123 button, but it won't automatically execute the "\O" macro in =
cell
> A1. I have to push Alt+O to get it to work. Any idea?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ron
>
> >Date:    Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:57:55 +0100
> >From:    Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
> >Subject: Re: Lotus for banking
> >
> >Steve kindly suggested
> >
> > >Try this...If all goes well you will see a list of =3D files in
> > >c:\_dat to select.
> >
> >it worked well, and i included auto123.wk1 in the my'money.zip for =
anyone
> to
> >try. .. just one question, using auto123 - how do i get an empty =
worksheet
> >in order to create a new file (without leaving Lotus)?
> >
> > amities -
> > Nathalie :)
> >
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Date:         Sat, 3 Nov 2001 06:55:05 -0700
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Joe et al,

Just a thought here.  Could our 440MB cards be drawing too much current for
the 200LX??  When I turn on my 200LX with my 440MB Sandisk card in the
slot, I get a battery low message.  Could that have damaged the card?  Joe,
are you seeing the low battery indication, too?  I get this whether I have
the power adapter plugged in or not.

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> I can only get to the point where auto123.wk1 is opened every time I =
push
> the 123 button, but it won't automatically execute the "\O" macro in =
cell
> A1. I have to push Alt+O to get it to work. Any idea?

Start 123 and go to Menu Worksheet Global Default Autoexec then set this =
to
Yes.  Now select Update to save this setting.  Autoexec means 123 automati=
cally
executes the \0 macro when the file is loaded.

 Steve Carder <steve@carderfamily.net>
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Date:         Sat, 3 Nov 2001 06:50:19 -0800
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
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> All these cards didn't even sell at $50 each ...
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1289828012
>
> Perhaps they will relist them again.

The ones on ebay looked different than the ones at Costco (white label for
the former vs red label for the latter).  I wonder if they differ in specs
... I heard Sandisk was switching over to a newer higher capacity chip of
some sort.  If that were the case, maybe they differ in power requirements.

Could be the ebay items were older?

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Date:         Sat, 3 Nov 2001 15:53:57 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

is here anyone on the list with an email address starting with
"boblintw@..."?

I keep getting email viri from this email address, containing text like
"here is a file for your advice" or so.
Today already 7 of these emails!

So, it might be interesting for this person that he sends lots of
emails he probably doesn't know of.


Thanks
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Date:         Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:02:25 +0000
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Over the last couple of month I received about 10 virus emails
of the kind:

> Hi! How are you?
> I send you this file in order to have your advice
> See you later. Thanks

I didn't care much about it and simply deleted them.
But today I got already 7 of those with 0.5 MB each,
and this is really annoying! The header says:

> X-UIDL: d3f36d4eb6e21768
> Return-Path: <boblintw@ms16.hinet.net>
> Received: from ms16.hinet.net (168.95.4.16) by mailin02.sul.t-online.d=
e
>        with esmtp id 15zvPK-1EInOyC; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 08:39:58 +0100
> Received: from MonKey.hinet.net (61-216-14-127.HINET-IP.hinet.net =
61.216.14.127)
>        by ms16.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA25883
>        for <stefan.peichl@t-online.de>; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 15:38:27 +0800 =
(CST)
> Message-Id: <200111030738.PAA25883@ms16.hinet.net>
> From: "boblintw"<boblintw@ms16.hinet.net>
> To: stefan.peichl@t-online.de
> Subject: phdnew1A
> date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 15:33:51 +0800
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=3D"----63B4E278_Outlook_Express_=
message_boundary"
> Content-Disposition: Multipart message

I know that the whole header may be faked, but probably some
of you are also concerned and got similar emails. That could
probably help in identifying the infected computer which I suspect
to be somewhere among the list members. At least those 7
I received today seem to have the same origin.

Sounds <boblintw@ms16.hinet.net> familiar to any of you?

Thanks
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Date:         Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:10:30 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Stefan

On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:02:25 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> Sounds <boblintw@ms16.hinet.net> familiar to any of you?

hehe, yes. ;-)

I have just put it on the GMX anti-spam-list. Now I hopefully don't get
these emails anymore.
But that is of course no real solution. These emails have to be
stopped! So, anyone, even if you are not boblintw, please check your
Outlook folders and try to monitor outgoing traffic! boblintw can be
anyone here. Especially Outlook users!

GTX
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Date:         Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:15:18 +0100
Reply-To:     Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG>
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Le Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:02:25 +0000
Stefan Peichl <Stefan=2EPeichl@T-ONLINE=2EDE> a =E9crit:

> Over the last couple of month I received about 10 virus emails
> of the kind:
>=20
> > Hi! How are you?
> > I send you this file in order to have your advice
> > See you later=2E Thanks

It's Sircam, a very active virus last months=2E

You can get more infos from :

   http://www=2Esymantec=2Ecom/avcenter/venc/data/w32=2Esircam=2Eworm@mm=2Eh=
tml




> I know that the whole header may be faked, but probably some
> of you are also concerned and got similar emails=2E=20

In this case (Sircam) the header is true=2E You can should send an email
to the adress appearing in the "From:" field to say him that his
computer is infected=2E=2E=2E


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Date:         Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:03:45 -0500
Reply-To:     Mike Schneider <mikeschn@AMERITECH.NET>
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I have the users manual only, for Borland Paradox 3.5. First person to email
me can have it, free. You pay for media mail shipping!

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Date:         Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:31:18 -0500
Reply-To:     Mike Schneider <mikeschn@AMERITECH.NET>
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Free to the first person that email's me... The first book of The Norton
Utilities 6 ISBN # 0-672-27384-5
You pay for media mail shipping.

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It just occured to me that I didn't include my email address for anyone who
might want the free book or manual. That happens when you are so engrossed
in looking thru your whole library of books and manuals! :-)  Anyways my
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Attention, 95LX users!
After sorting through some of my old computer 'stuff', I discovered a boxed
HP95LX->IBM Connectivity Pack (code F1001A).
It's in unused condition and includes cable/disk/paperwork.
Anyone want to make me an offer for it (preferably in UK/Europe)... please
email me off-list.
BTW, I think the cable is also suitable for HP-48 calculators?

- Mark
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I just bought a used  AC Adaptor:

STANCOR Model STA-3590A
Input 120 VAC 60Hz 6W
Output: 9VDC 300mA
Class 2 Transformer

It was supposed to work for the 200LX (and I assume the 100LX as well), =
but my 100LX says 12V on the bottom.  The person whom I bought this from =
said they had no problems using it with a 200LX, but I am concerned =
about messing up my palmtop with this adaptor since it only says 9VDC.

Should I be able to use this adaptor wih a 100 LX?

(I should mention the polarity is correct with + on outside and - on =
inside).

Thanks

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I just bought a used &nbsp;AC Adaptor:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>STANCOR Model STA-3590A</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Input 120 VAC 60Hz 6W</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Output: 9VDC 300mA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Class 2 Transformer</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>It was supposed to work for the 200LX (and I assume =
the 100LX=20
as well), but my 100LX says 12V on the bottom.&nbsp; The person whom I =
bought=20
this from said they had no problems using it with a 200LX, but I am =
concerned=20
about messing up my palmtop with this adaptor since it only says=20
9VDC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Should I be able to use this adaptor wih a 100=20
LX?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>(I should mention the polarity is correct with + on =
outside=20
and - on inside).</FONT></DIV>
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Date:         Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:20:40 +0100
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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hi,

I'd suggest to use a voltmeter and measure output voltage.
If the voltage is too low, the adapter will not supply your Palmtop,
but it will not do harm. If your adapter is not regulated it will
probably have a higher output voltage when not connected to a
palmtop. It could be high enough to be sufficient.
So you can use it without problems. Generally regulated power
supplies are better, there you know what you get. Cheap power
supplies only have a transformator, a simple rectifier with a
(ususally too small) condensator to smoothe the ripple and no voltage
control circuit. So the voltage is (much) higher than written on the
badge when the supply is not connected to a consumer. Voltage is
dependent from the load in these devices.

73! de Werner OE9FWV


On 3 Nov 2001, at 23:08, Tralornik wrote:

>
> I just bought a used  AC Adaptor:
>
> STANCOR Model STA-3590A
> Input 120 VAC 60Hz 6W
> Output: 9VDC 300mA
> Class 2 Transformer
>
> It was supposed to work for the 200LX (and I assume the 100LX as
> well), but my 100LX says 12V on the bottom.  The person whom I bought
> this from said they had no problems using it with a 200LX, but I am
> concerned about messing up my palmtop with this adaptor since it only
> says 9VDC.
>
> Should I be able to use this adaptor wih a 100 LX?
>
> (I should mention the polarity is correct with + on outside and - on
> inside).
>
> Thanks
>



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Date:         Sat, 3 Nov 2001 22:46:04 -0800
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Folks,

I was browsing for info on a Win2000 chess program. (Chessmaster=
 6000 does not run) when I came across
"Chenard" by Don Cross. It has a DOS cga version. Freeware. =
 While I have Chessmaster 2100 which works
OK on the I'm always interested in something new. OK new to me.

It seems to run well on my 100lx  And is much easier to see than=
 2100.

  < http://home.intersrv.com/~dcross/chenard.html  >

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Date:         Sun, 4 Nov 2001 10:17:46 +0200
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Hi friends,

is anyone of you using IR connections between the palmtop and an
Omnibook 800?

Finally, someone (Martin Diehl) developed a Linux driver for the
Omnibook 800's IrDA port. Now we are trying to make it work for
connections between the palmtop and the Omnibook.

How does it work in Windows? Do you have to set something special to
make it work regarding IrDA or not IrDA?

Thanks
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From:         Steve Carder <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET>
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> Should I be able to use this adaptor wih a 100 LX?

I would be hesitant.  Some adaptors produce a bit over the rated voltage. =
 So
this one may put out around 10-11 Volts.  The 100LX and 200LX need 12 =
Volts but
can deal with something close to 12 Volts.  So, the adaptor may provide =
just
enough voltage to get by, but there could still be problems.  As the =
palmtop
draws more power, like when using a modem, the adaptor's voltage may drop =
too
low and then the palmtop will switch to using the batteries.  So, you may =
think
the adaptor is working, but it may not help when you need it most.

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Date:         Sun, 4 Nov 2001 11:37:51 -0700
Reply-To:     Bob Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM>
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I have the same Stancor AC Adapter you are referring to. The
200LX User's Guide states a Min voltage of 9.6V and a Max of
14.4V, nominal voltage of 12V. Although I bought this adapter as
a used, secondary unit, it appears to work fine.

Putting the LX in Setup mode on battery power only you will see:
Source: Battery
Turn the unit off and plug the Stancor AC adapter into the unit:
Source: Adapter

Since is being recognized and it is pulling sufficient power to
run the unit, I have no qualms about using it. If I'm not
mistaken, all these adapters are 9Volt+/- 5% or so. If you have
a voltmeter, test the output. I'd be interested to know.

Bob Christopher     Littleton, Colorado USA     bob@palmtop.com

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Date:         Sun, 4 Nov 2001 12:59:58 -0500
Reply-To:     Ed <edwardp@SYMPATICO.CA>
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I recently lost all power to my HP200LX and lost all the data. I had the
Times2Tech memory/speed upgrade.

Upon rebooting/initializing, the Screen is "shifted" about 2 characters to
the right, ie the last 2 characters that should be on the far RIGHT of the
screen appear on the far LEFT.  The screen settles into this condition after
a few seconds of fuzzy flowing in the 2 leftmost characters.

If I use the menu+ < in DOS, the screen shifts, but the 2 leftmost
characters dissappear.

Is there any way to restore the screen to its original "normal" condition?

Thanks

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> I recently lost all power to my HP200LX and lost all the data. I had the
> Times2Tech memory/speed upgrade.


You need to reinstall the speed driver.  The double speed crystal does
that to SOME HP displays based on some inherent characterists of the
individual unit.

So you need to probably add at least the following line to config.sys on
your BOOT drive:

device=c:\spd31.exe

Where c:\ might be the path where you have that file located?

You might also need to add the drivers, etc for the memory upgrade, too,
if you don't see the extra memory.  And whether or not you had it
swapping c: for f: or whatever the large drive would be.

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Date:         Sun, 4 Nov 2001 12:28:01 -0700
Reply-To:     Bob Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM>
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I just bought it from a fellow listmember a few weeks ago. He
said he had used it in his office for several years without any
problem. I've had it in use for about 2 weeks in my office where
it is plugged in to a 200LX for about 10 hours a day.

I am not an EE so I'm not the person to ask re voltage outputs
vs regulated input. Perhaps someone with more EE savvy can tell
us both if the LX itself determines and limits the input into
the unit regardless of what the adapter is putting out, thus
eliminating any overload problems internally.

I wonder, too, why 9v or 12v when the unit runs on 3v worth of
AA batteries. Like I said, I'm no EE.

Bob Christopher     Littleton, Colorado USA     bob@palmtop.com

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Date:         Sun, 4 Nov 2001 20:24:52 +0100
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after using XTGOLD for over 5 years i just stumbled upon its Search feature
in directories. As a result i deleted XGREP. The View feature in XTGOLD
highlights all occurances of the seached item in all tagged files. It also
shows LOTUS 123 files.

nat (still in Australia)

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Date:         Sun, 4 Nov 2001 13:02:09 MST
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Are there adapter to get SmartMedia Cards to work with
the Palmtops?


Bob Love
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Date:         Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:22:42 -0500
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 Bob,

 I just tested it.  It pumps out 15 to 16 volts.

 I also tried my universal adaptor and found that most setting were always a
good 3 to 5 volts over whatever selection I chose.

So if this this puts out 15 to 16 volts, is that okay?  Is it too much?

 How do I know what it is putting out under load of the palmtop?

 Another big question for me is what does the palm need 12 Volts for
anyway...I mean it only uses two 1.5 volt batteries?   If I am not
recharging, where does the need for 12 volts come from?

 By the way, how long have you been using your Stancor adaptor?  How did you
 come to the decision to use that adaptor?  (what is on a compatible adaptor
 list or something?

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Date:         Sun, 4 Nov 2001 14:26:12 -0600
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I've been hunting for a DOS ver. of XTGold....

Anyone know where I can find one?

Just found a clone (actually links to several clones, etc.... some work in
Linux/Unix and Windows) at:

http://www.xtreefanpage.org/

I'll prob. try the DOS clone(s) in my LX....

Hope they work as well as the original....

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Date:         Sun, 4 Nov 2001 23:08:54 +0000
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A further comment on checking voltages; it should be done under
load.  Just checking the votage at the connector without a load
may be quite misleading, especially on an unregulated supply.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:01:35 -0800
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Hi,

I have been able to download the whole phone book of
my NOKIA 8210 via infrared using Ir.exe. My entries
are now stored in a comma delimited text file. I am
trying to convert this file into a database using
gdbload to append it to my already existing phone
database.
I think I have folowed all the steps correctly but I
always get an error from the program stating:

gbolad(1): can't match field   hogar'

My first field is "hogar" and the second field is
"nombre"

The text file I am trying to convert looks like this:

hogar,nombre
609633499,Josu Movil

678678635,Alex Movil

900122508,Josea Irigoyen

etc...

What am I doing wrong? Is gdbload compatible with my
Spanish hp200lx?

By the way I have discovered a very easy method for
downloading the whole phone book of the NOKIA 8210
using IR.exe(No cables needed!!). It may also work for
uploading the whole phone book of the Hp 200lx to the
phone (I am still testing), and sending SMS messeges
using infrared. Anybody interested? i

Thanks,

Inigo


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Date:         Sun, 4 Nov 2001 18:28:02 -0600
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> Tralornik wrote:
>
>
> I just bought a used  AC Adaptor:
>
> STANCOR Model STA-3590A
> Input 120 VAC 60Hz 6W
> Output: 9VDC 300mA
> Class 2 Transformer
>
> It was supposed to work for the 200LX (and I assume the
> 100LX as well), but my 100LX says 12V on the bottom.  The
> person whom I bought this from said they had no problems
> using it with a 200LX, but I am concerned about messing up
> my palmtop with this adaptor since it only says 9VDC.
>
> Should I be able to use this adaptor wih a 100 LX?
>
> (I should mention the polarity is correct with + on
> outside and - on inside).
>
> Thanks

This is the low end of HPLX adapters.  Radio Schlock sells a
500mA 12 volt unit for about $14.  Go for it!

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Date:         Mon, 5 Nov 2001 01:27:03 +0100
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On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:

> after using XTGOLD for over 5 years i just stumbled upon its Search feature
> in directories. As a result i deleted XGREP. The View feature in XTGOLD
> highlights all occurances of the seached item in all tagged files. It also
> shows LOTUS 123 files.

Well, I guess if you don't need Regular Expressions (the real strength of
xgrep, apart from the small size of course), you can save a whole 3.5kb by
deleting it ;-)


Cheers,

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I have gotten A LOT of virus mails from him/her!

> Hi friends,
>
> is here anyone on the list with an email address starting with
> "boblintw@..."?

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Date:         Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:12:40 +0100
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hi Mr Tralornik,

on 4 Nov 2001, at 15:22 Tralornik wrote about:
Fw: Re: AC Adaptor

>  Bob,
>
>  I just tested it.  It pumps out 15 to 16 volts.

thats what I suspected.
unregulated PS with a soft transformator.

>
>  I also tried my universal adaptor and found that most setting were
>  always a
> good 3 to 5 volts over whatever selection I chose.
>
> So if this this puts out 15 to 16 volts, is that okay?  Is it too
> much?

it is the upper limit. But I think the voltage drops as soon as you
connect it.

>
>  How do I know what it is putting out under load of the palmtop?
>
you have to measure the voltage under load. Go for a connector with
attached wires, connect it to your palmtop and then connect the
wires to the plug of your Adapter. I use special clamps for this.
Be careful to keep the correct polarity. The load of the palmtop
will vary dependent on its work status. Loading batteries,
supplying a modem, calculating....
With this cheap Adapter voltage will vary according to the load.
If it never drops under 9.5 and never is above 15 V DC, it is o.k.

I suggest to use an adapter with regulated 12 V DC and 500 mA
power. As written on the list, they are not expensive and better
for the palmtop.

Why the palmtop uses 12 V input?
I think this voltage is very common, and it is brought down to the
5 V most electronic parts use in computers by a voltage control
circuit. You need less powerful power supplies if you use a higher
voltage, and you have no problems to get all internal used voltages
for loading batteries, supply of the IC's c etc.


73! de Werner
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Date:         Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:47:13 +0200
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Hi Tony,

On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 21:43:21 +1300, Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ> wrote:

> Upload Phone book to &MEM=robot "phone put me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt"
>
> From the DOS prompt, this works:
>
> robot phone "put me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt"
>
> so, for the external you need to put the above line in a bat
> file, say PHONEPUT.BAT and have
>
> Upload Phone book to &MEM=PHONEPUT.BAT
>
> Or maybe better is to have a more generic bat
>
> say ROBOFONE.BAT:
>
> ROBOT PHONE "%1 %2 %3"
>
> and have
>
> Upload Phone book to &MEM=ROBOFONE.BAT put me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt

I have done this exactly as you described (the BAT file variant).
I have robofone.bat with the contents

robot phone "%1 %2 %3"
@pause

and I have the externals in post.cfg:

Download Phone book from SIM=robofone.bat get sm a:\_dat\phonesim.txt
Download Phone book from MEM=robofone.bat get me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt
Upload Phone book to SIM=robofone.bat put sm a:\_dat\phonesim.txt
Upload Phone book to MEM=robofone.bat put me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt

But somehow it still doesn't work. I have put the pause line into
robofone.bat to see error messages and indeed:

I tried to do the download from MEM, and the following appeared:

Variable not known
a2"\r
line 11 in phone.scr

Something must still be wrong.
Could you please send me your phone.scr? The I can see if there are any
differences.

TNX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 5 Nov 2001 15:39:40 +0100
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I saw the following announcement from Lotus:

"As of October 31st, 2001 support for cc:Mail will no longer be available."

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Date:         Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:51:48 +0200
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I have HP Omnigo 700LX (almost identical with HP 200LX), and I recently =
began having strange problem with
it. When I turn the machine on, it works fine for about 20 seconds, and =
then it says "main batt very low" and=20
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shuts down again.
I have changed new batteries several times and problem still exists.
When I connect power adaptor to machine, it keeps saying "main battery =
very low" but it doesn't shut down.

When power cord was connected, I monitored battery voltage with ABC/LX, =
and it constantly dropped to 1.61 volts, then
raised again to 2.4 volts, and then again dropped.

Any ideas what could be causing this?

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Date:         Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:09:48 -0800
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I get the HPLX as a digest and sometimes do not rx all the digests. If
someone has them could they send me the digest #'s 295,307,308,320,and 332?
I hate to mmiss even one word of wisdom from the list! :-)

Thanks

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Date:         Mon, 5 Nov 2001 10:19:21 -0500
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Contact the author directly. I've done this before on auctions where
not all quantities sold and made successful purchases.

BTW: as always, caveat emptor.

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> Longden Loo
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 9:50 AM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at for $50 on EBay
>
>
> > All these cards didn't even sell at $50 each ...
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1289828012
> >
> > Perhaps they will relist them again.
>
> The ones on ebay looked different than the ones at Costco
> (white label for
> the former vs red label for the latter).  I wonder if they
> differ in specs
> ... I heard Sandisk was switching over to a newer higher
> capacity chip of
> some sort.  If that were the case, maybe they differ in
> power requirements.
>
> Could be the ebay items were older?
>
> - Longden
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I found the following in the notes I took from this list:

<Has anyone had any success with RAM cards for the 95LX that are
larger than 2MB?
-The 95LX needs a driver to recognize Sandisk flashcards (and it
only works with some models). Apparently, the flashcards made
for (or compatible with) the 95LX came with this driver. You can
read more about the 95LX and Sandisk cards in this PDF file
http://www.sandisk.com/download/techqa2.pdf
- don't think you can boot from a flashcard (because flashcards
require a driver present), but perhaps an SRAM card. Another
option  might be to place a Y2K-fixer TSR in the config.sys?
-Since the 95LX has DOS 3.22, it can only handle flash cards (CF
or regular) of 32MB or less. Using Stacker doesn't get around
this problem, but would limit you to a 16MB card (stacked to
32MB). It has been reported in the list that CF cards will draw
about 22mW power even when the LX is turned off, so they would
need to be removed when not in use to prevent battery drain.




HTH

Etienne
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Subject: 95lx and Compact flash


| Hi,
|
| I finally got a CF-to-PCMCIA-adapter for my 95lx :-)
| Now, can anybody tell me what sandisk CF-cards work with the
95 (I have a
| 8MB card labeled SDCFB) and where I can obtain the drivers?

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Oh, damn... that sucks. ;P

luckily there is http://www.palmtop.com/


> I saw the following announcement from Lotus:
>
> "As of October 31st, 2001 support for cc:Mail will no
> longer be available."
>
> Ulrich Boche

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Actually:

from the web site:

"Costco Membership (optional)
Are you a Costco member? If so, please enter the membership number
from the back of your Costco membership card.  Non-members pay a 5%
surcharge for Costco Online purchases, except for prescription drugs
and gift certificates "

3 bux extra? Maybe still an okay price.


>
> FWIW
> If you go to Costco's website and search on sandisk they
> sell the 128M CF as available for $59.99.  Of course this
> is just for those that are "members".
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I just looked on buy.com, and they are selling a
128MB COMPACTFLASH CARD W/PCCARD ADAPTER
Manufacturer: SANDISK Type: Supplies
$62.95

This sounds pretty good for those of us without a local Costco.

/jack

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Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD


>Actually:
>
>from the web site:
>
>"Costco Membership (optional)
>Are you a Costco member? If so, please enter the membership number
>from the back of your Costco membership card.  Non-members pay a 5%
>surcharge for Costco Online purchases, except for prescription drugs
>and gift certificates "
>
>3 bux extra? Maybe still an okay price.
>
>
>>
>> FWIW
>> If you go to Costco's website and search on sandisk they
>> sell the 128M CF as available for $59.99.  Of course this
>> is just for those that are "members".
>> bob
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Actually, I bought the $60 card at Costco yesterday.  Saving the
extra $10 isn't worth the uncertainty and aggravation, except to the
most diehard penny-pinching sport-shoppers <g>.

> Contact the author directly. I've done this before on auctions where
> not all quantities sold and made successful purchases.
>
> BTW: as always, caveat emptor.

> > > All these cards didn't even sell at $50 each ...
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1289828012

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Mon,  5 Nov 2001 12:43:16 -0500 (EST)

There is also a Kingston 256MB for $109(after $20 Mfr Rebate)

www.us.buy.com/retail/computers/product.asp??loc=3D101&sku=3D10265781

Cheers...AJKind

49m09s ago ...
On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Jack Schudel wrote:

> I just looked on buy.com, and they are selling a
> 128MB COMPACTFLASH CARD W/PCCARD ADAPTER
> Manufacturer: SANDISK Type: Supplies
> $62.95
>
> This sounds pretty good for those of us without a local Costco.
>
> /jack
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Date: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:37 AM
> Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD
>
> >Actually:
> >
> >from the web site:
> >
> >"Costco Membership (optional)
> >Are you a Costco member? If so, please enter the membership number
> >from the back of your Costco membership card.  Non-members pay a 5%
> >surcharge for Costco Online purchases, except for prescription drugs
> >and gift certificates "
> >
> >3 bux extra? Maybe still an okay price.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> FWIW
> >> If you go to Costco's website and search on sandisk they
> >> sell the 128M CF as available for $59.99.  Of course this
> >> is just for those that are "members".
> >> bob
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05h02m05s ago ...
On Mon,  5 Nov 2001 14:47:13 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> > Or maybe better is to have a more generic bat
> >
> > say ROBOFONE.BAT:
> >
> > ROBOT PHONE "%1 %2 %3"

Daniel, sorry, I got this wrong the PHONE needs to be inside
the quotes.

To run as a POST/LX external you probably want to set the Ir
too:

wwwset "Port=-1 Baud=38400"
ROBOT "phone.scr %1 %2 %3"

> Variable not known
> a2"\r
> line 11 in phone.scr

That was because I didn't have the phone in the quotes too.

> Something must still be wrong.
> Could you please send me your phone.scr? The I can see if there are any
> differences.

OK I am sure it is the standard one.
You do need the latest ROBOT.EXE for the "put" part to work.

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>  Subject: IR connection to Omnibook 800
>   Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 10:17:46 +0200
>   From: Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
>
>is anyone of you using IR connections between the palmtop and an Omnibook 800?
>
>Finally, someone (Martin Diehl) developed a Linux driver for the
>Omnibook 800's IrDA port. Now we are trying to make it work for
>connections between the palmtop and the Omnibook.
>
>How does it work in Windows? Do you have to set something special to
>make it work regarding IrDA or not IrDA?
>
>Thanks
>daniel

Daniel
I've connected my palmtop to my Omnibook 425 via infared.
The palmtop uses a predessor to IRDA called SIR (serial
infared).
There are IRDA drivers for the palmtop but I have not used them.
Some laptops (like my thinkpad 560) are supposed to communicate
with the palmtop though I haven't tried it yet.

Good luck

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>   Subject: Can SmartMedia Cards be used in 200LX?
>   Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 13:02:09 MST
>   From: Bob Love <lovebob@USA.NET>
>
>Are there adapter to get SmartMedia Cards to work with
>the Palmtops?

Bob
There are smartmedia to PCMCIA adaptors. I have a New Media
brand adaptor (part number NMT00734). I just tried reading the
smart media card from my Olympus digital camera in mypalmtop and
the JPG files came right up in the  filer (doublespeed 200LX).
One of these days I'll get LXPIC figured out so I can see
pictures on the palmtop.

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Mikko,

Check if one of the batteries is reversed - use the drawing
inside the battery compartment. They DO NOT go in intuitively
so you have to be careful.

Second possibility is that one of the batteries has truly died
and will not charge again (either because it is dead or
reversed?)

You have not said it, so I assume you did not look, but does
ABC/LX tell you that it is charging? If the machine turns off
WHEN ON ADAPTER, then probably the adapter is broken, or the
circuit in the Palmtop that deals with the adapter is broken.

  Avi M.


Mikko Kangas wrote:
> I have HP Omnigo 700LX (almost identical with HP 200LX), and I recently =
began having strange problem with
> it. When I turn the machine on, it works fine for about 20 seconds, and =
then it says "main batt very low" and
> shuts down. When I press it on again, is just beeps, sceen flashes and =
it shuts down again. If I repeatly
> push the on-button, it sometimes work again about 20 seconds and then =
shuts down again.
> I have changed new batteries several times and problem still exists.
> When I connect power adaptor to machine, it keeps saying "main battery =
very low" but it doesn't shut down.
>
> When power cord was connected, I monitored battery voltage with ABC/LX, =
and it constantly dropped to 1.61 volts, then
> raised again to 2.4 volts, and then again dropped.
>
> Any ideas what could be causing this?
>

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The first line is the CSV has to contain the field names
exactly as they are on your phonebook. You may wish to try to
gdbdump on an EMPTY phonebook so your field names come out
EXACTLY.

Then put this line as the first in the CSV you have from the
NOKIA.

There is a program written by Andreas Garzotto called DBIO
which helps deal with the strange interface of gdbload and
gdbdump. Check ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/MISC/dbio.zip

  Avi M.

M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been able to download the whole phone book of
> my NOKIA 8210 via infrared using Ir.exe. My entries
> are now stored in a comma delimited text file. I am
> trying to convert this file into a database using
> gdbload to append it to my already existing phone
> database.
> I think I have folowed all the steps correctly but I
> always get an error from the program stating:
>
> gbolad(1): can't match field   hogar'
>
> My first field is "hogar" and the second field is
> "nombre"
>
> The text file I am trying to convert looks like this:
>
> hogar,nombre
> 609633499,Josu Movil
>
> 678678635,Alex Movil
>
> 900122508,Josea Irigoyen
>
> etc...
>
> What am I doing wrong? Is gdbload compatible with my
> Spanish hp200lx?
>
> By the way I have discovered a very easy method for
> downloading the whole phone book of the NOKIA 8210
> using IR.exe(No cables needed!!). It may also work for
> uploading the whole phone book of the Hp 200lx to the
> phone (I am still testing), and sending SMS messeges
> using infrared. Anybody interested? i
>
> Thanks,
>
> Inigo
>
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Bob Christopher wrote:
> I wonder, too, why 9v or 12v when the unit runs on 3v worth of
> AA batteries. Like I said, I'm no EE.

You confuse the circuits to run the PC which feed off the
batteries, with the circuits to charge the batteries, which
run on nominal 12V. To ponder more on this consider that it
takes anywhere from 0.01mA to run the palmtop (nearly idle) to
about 175mA, so why is the adapter supplying 750ma? Again, the
same reasoning as above.

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Bob Christopher wrote:
> I have the same Stancor AC Adapter you are referring to. The
> 200LX User's Guide states a Min voltage of 9.6V and a Max of
> 14.4V, nominal voltage of 12V. Although I bought this adapter as
> a used, secondary unit, it appears to work fine.

I'd hesitate because it is so low esp. on the current. Palmtop
needs 750mA, Stancor provides 300mA.

> Putting the LX in Setup mode on battery power only you will see:
> Source: Battery
> Turn the unit off and plug the Stancor AC adapter into the unit:
> Source: Adapter

Don't even have to turn off machine for that.

> Since is being recognized and it is pulling sufficient power to
> run the unit, I have no qualms about using it. If I'm not

Not necessarily correct conclusion. It may be enough to run
the palmtop, but consider that you may need to run palmtop,
perhaps a power hungry modem and be on for extended hours -
together this may suck up a lot more power than the tiny test
you propose.

> mistaken, all these adapters are 9Volt+/- 5% or so. If you have
> a voltmeter, test the output. I'd be interested to know.

Voltage is so-so. Nominal Voltage for Palmtop is 12V, and it
can tolerate between 9.6 and 14.4V. Your Stancor is at 9V,
which maybe 8 to 10, maybe even more.

Second, Palmtop needs 750mA current, and Stancor provides
300mA. So it is clearly below the lower limits, and I'd be
cautious about using it, and recommending it. In fact I
recommend AGAINST using it. I'd hate to recommend something
that will damage someone's palmtop.

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We had lengthy threads on this. Conclusion - no one could make
it work :-( ... Could be the SIR vs. IrDA differences?

  Avi M.

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Hi friends,
>
> is anyone of you using IR connections between the palmtop and an
> Omnibook 800?

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In addition to the shift, you may notice that you also run a
lot slower! What happened is that you lost the driver for the
doublespeed. When that happens the cpu runs at factory speed
(7.9mHz) and another telltale sign is that the signal to the
screen is not adjusted, and it shifts by those 2mm or so that
you mention. (the shift varies among machines, even in some
cases hardly any shift is noticeable.)

So you need to put the speed driver in there. Check the site
Mack has www.times2tech.com - good luck.

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It _might_ work. The HP User's Guide says about AC Adapter:

Polarity - negative center is ground, positive is the outer
contact (this is unusual!) minimum voltage 9.6V nominal 12V,
maximum 14V minimum current 750mA.

Your adapter isbarely minimal, which means it will work at
FULL all the time, heating up, probably heating up the Palmtop
too and eventually it will go bad on you.

Either find an HP adapter, or call Thaddeus, they were selling
AC adapter replacements for the HP which meet these
requirements and work extremely well (I have 2 of them).

Going cheap on this is like going to the cheapest doctor you
can find for a heart surgery - not smart.

Years ago I had a 500mA adapter at 9v from Radio Shack. It
always ran HOT. Palmtop was always hot too, the circuit was
working hard trying to suck out enough current from the
adapter. After a year, one day the adapter simply died with a
bright little explosion - melted inside, and destroyed the
power circuitry in the palmtop although palmtop kept working
on batteries alone. I save $15 on the adapter and paid $250
for the repair - not smart at all. Good luck.

  Avi M.

Tralornik wrote:
> I just bought a used  AC Adaptor:
>
> STANCOR Model STA-3590A
> Input 120 VAC 60Hz 6W
> Output: 9VDC 300mA
> Class 2 Transformer
>
> It was supposed to work for the 200LX (and I assume the 100LX as well), =
but my 100LX says 12V on the bottom.  The person whom I bought this from
> said they had no problems using it with a 200LX, but I am concerned =
about messing up my palmtop with this adaptor since it only says 9VDC.
>
> Should I be able to use this adaptor wih a 100 LX?
>
> (I should mention the polarity is correct with + on outside and - on =
inside).
>
> Thanks
>

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Hi Tony,

On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 07:00:14 +1300, Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ> wrote:

> Daniel, sorry, I got this wrong the PHONE needs to be inside
> the quotes.

ah, okay. This makes sense.

> To run as a POST/LX external you probably want to set the Ir
> too:
>
> wwwset "Port=-1 Baud=38400"
> ROBOT "phone.scr %1 %2 %3"

Excellent idea! :-)
Although it didn't work setting the parameters Port and Baud the way
you describe. But if I give an existing www setup name as an argument
to wwwset, if works.

> OK I am sure it is the standard one.
> You do need the latest ROBOT.EXE for the "put" part to work.

What is the latest one?
It seems here it indeed goes into the get loop instead of the put loop,
because it says "retrieving..." even if I choose put.
But I haven' found any newer version of robot.exe than mine:

ROBOT    EXE     24501 05-11-01   6:52p

If this is not the latest, could you please send me yours?

Regarding the wwwset thing:
Is there any way to restore the original setup after launching robot
phone? Something like

SET RESTORE = wwwset
wwwset irdasms
robot "phone %1 %2 %3"
wwwset RESTORE

(it doesn't work this way, of course, because you cannot assign the
output of wwwset to a variable. But maybe you have an idea, since you
are the batch annd robot specialist here?
I could imagine redirecting the wwwset output into a prepared batch file
which then contains "set restore = output" or so - haven't you done
something like that for sr.exe in Roboweb?

Thanks a lot
I hope I can soon come up with a comfortable solution to up- and
download phone books together with a piece of maintaining or at least
synchronizing software...

GTX
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Hi Inigo

On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:01:35 -0800, "M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" <imazagra@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> I have been able to download the whole phone book of
> my NOKIA 8210 via infrared using Ir.exe. My entries

How do you do that exactly?

> What am I doing wrong? Is gdbload compatible with my
> Spanish hp200lx?

Should be, dince GDB format is a general format, not language-specific.
Sorry, no idea.

> By the way I have discovered a very easy method for
> downloading the whole phone book of the NOKIA 8210
> using IR.exe(No cables needed!!). It may also work for
> uploading the whole phone book of the Hp 200lx to the
> phone (I am still testing), and sending SMS messeges
> using infrared. Anybody interested? i

YES! See my other posts regarding phone.scr.
I do it that way out of post/lx with an external entry.
Once all is set up well, it should be _very_ comfortable. But the way
to a proper setup is no easy. ;-)

GTX
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Hi friends

do yourself a favor and buy a regulated one for a few dollars more.

If you take an unregulated AC adaptor, this can heat the palmtop up,
because the voltage regulation circuit inside the palmtop has to work
a lot more than if the voltage comes in already regulated.

In the worst case, this heat can damage the the palmtop permanently.

GTX
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Hi Mikko

please try to avoid HTML postings to the list.

On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:51:48 +0200, Mikko Kangas <mikko.kangas@KOLUMBUS.FI> wrote:

> When power cord was connected, I monitored battery voltage with ABC/LX, and it constantly dropped to 1.61 volts, then
> raised again to 2.4 volts, and then again dropped.

Is this in regular time intervals or does it raise and drop irregular?
If the latter is the case, I think it is a loose contact somewhere in
the wires from the batteries to the mainboard.
Did you drop the 700LX, did you open the case or something?

If you have the necessary skills, I would recommend you to open the
machine and see if the metal wires which connect the battery springs to
the mainboard are loose or maybe it is a cold soldering spot where the
battery contacts meet the mainboard.

Since you seem to be in Finland, Thomas Rundel might be the right
person to send the palmtop to, if you don't get it to work again.

http://www.rundel.net

Or maybe try first to clean all battery contacts.

GTX
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Hi Avi,

On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:14:27 -0800, sponsor@ftel.net wrote:

> We had lengthy threads on this. Conclusion - no one could make
> it work :-( ... Could be the SIR vs. IrDA differences?

Yes, exactly this is the problem.
But there is hope, at least for Linux users.
The IrDA driver actually contains already all needed code to drive the
IR interface in plain SIR (a.k.a. HPSIR) mode, but it doesn't do it,
but it uses all that IrDA stuff in addition.

So if we would strip all IrDA stuff from the driver, it should work.

I'll see if I will make it work some day. These days I'm learning a lot
about IrDA from the programmer of the OB800 IrDA driver. I don't think
he'll want to modify hsi driver that way, but when I have enough time
and IrDA-related experience, maybe I'll do it.
As a first relust of all these things I'M learning I'll update my IR
transmitter page soon. ;-)


Who would be interested in connecting a Linux OB800 to the HPLX?

GTX
daniel


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Hi Avi,

On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:14:21 -0800, Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> In addition to the shift, you may notice that you also run a
> lot slower! What happened is that you lost the driver for the

Oh, I think it runs with double speed even without the driver. The
problem is only that the "peripheral" devices like screen, serial port
etc. cannot handle this double speed by default, so the driver is
needed to let them work properly.

Or am I wrong here?

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Date:         Mon, 5 Nov 2001 15:26:56 -0500
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Wow, I once paid $240 for a 40MB Pretec card.It died on me after less
than a year's worth of use. I'll never buy Pretec again.

> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Al
> Kind
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 12:45 PM

>
> There is also a Kingston 256MB for $109(after $20 Mfr Rebate)
>
> www.us.buy.com/retail/computers/product.asp??loc=101&sku=10265781
>
> Cheers...AJKind
>

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Tue,  6 Nov 2001 09:19:13 +1300 (NZDT)

01h15m09s ago ...
On Mon,  5 Nov 2001 21:04:04 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> > You do need the latest ROBOT.EXE for the "put" part to work.
>
> What is the latest one?

> It seems here it indeed goes into the get loop instead of the put loop,
> because it says "retrieving..." even if I choose put.
> But I haven' found any newer version of robot.exe than mine:
>
> ROBOT    EXE     24501 05-11-01   6:52p
>
> If this is not the latest, could you please send me yours?

Mine is the same as in ROBOWEB.ZIP - it is dated around August
2001 - version 1.8. I can't send it now, I'm on the run :)

> > wwwset "Port=-1 Baud=38400"
> > ROBOT "phone.scr %1 %2 %3"
>
> Although it didn't work setting the parameters Port and Baud
> the way you describe. But if I give an existing www setup name
> as an argument to wwwset, if works.

That wwwset above is what I use in my sms_pdu.bat from POST/LX
- so it does work here. It doesn't matter what the WWW-ISP was,
it only uses the port/baud settings and leaves everything else
the same. So, as long as port/baud is controlled - somehow -
using setcom.bat, or explicitly as above, you don't really need
to restore settings.

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Hi Tony

On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:43:12 +1300, Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ> wrote:

> > ROBOT    EXE     24501 05-11-01   6:52p
> >
> > If this is not the latest, could you please send me yours?
>
> Mine is the same as in ROBOWEB.ZIP - it is dated around August
> 2001 - version 1.8. I can't send it now, I'm on the run :)

Mine is also from Roboweb (ftp.dasoft.com/pub/WWW/roboweb.zip,
but its file date is 05-11-01. Version 1.8. ????!
So probably another thing is wrong here.

> That wwwset above is what I use in my sms_pdu.bat from POST/LX
> - so it does work here. It doesn't matter what the WWW-ISP was,
> it only uses the port/baud settings and leaves everything else
> the same. So, as long as port/baud is controlled - somehow -
> using setcom.bat, or explicitly as above, you don't really need
> to restore settings.

Okay, so I'll try it once more with just these single parameter
settings instead of a whole setup.

Thanks
daniel

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Oh, I think it runs with double speed even without the driver. The
> problem is only that the "peripheral" devices like screen, serial port

   ...snip...

> Or am I wrong here?

You could be right.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> So if we would strip all IrDA stuff from the driver, it should work.

If it does, wonderful.

> Who would be interested in connecting a Linux OB800 to the HPLX?

At least I! Next weekend I am installing Linux on my OB and
then will get more serious about installing it on the rest of
the computers. (I am tired of the M$ rip-off and their
invasions of privacy and all that!)

I suspect several of us here will be interested because we
have both machines. Many of the OB owners are also eyeing
Linux because it is a good way to move forward on this machine
without the M$ bloatware.

I have experimented somewhat and have made _some_ connection
between OB800CT with Win95 and the Palmtop. Here is a summary:


1. Enabled IR in the Setting. It wants to talk over COM1.

2. Loaded IR.COM in a DOS workarea in the Palmtop.

3. Command line input:

   IR oput c:\xyz.pqr    supposed to send the file

The notebook makes a sound of recognition, and tells me it
sees HP200LX, but also tells me there is interference from
other IRs in the vicinity - none that I know of. The Palmtop
displays:

   Opening IrDA for (ultralight) OBEX send
   Talking to "OB-1"...    this is the name of my OB in the
                            IR setup.
   sending...
   ..........
   sent
   closing ...

At that point the OB makes the noise of closing.

After that the Palmtop is locked HARD! requires cold boot.

Next experiment:

1. Similar setup.

2. command

   IR server

Notebook recognizes the palmtop.

Palmtop displays:

   Ir Server - open IrDA for interchange (?)
   talking to "OB-1".....
   IrDA connect failed
   cannot initialize LMP connection

Following this the Notebook makes the sound of disconnect and
the palmtop locks up hard, requiring cold boot.

Hopefully this is somewhat of a start and a help. My Windows
95 is STOCK, right from the CD.

  Avi M.

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(Maybe I forgot to announce this a month ago)

Available at:

http://www.dasoft.com/roboweb/index.html

Same functionality as before, but much faster to start digging.
Some additional built-in features, for weather and quotes.
Now works over IrDA - thanks to Andreas for a new ROBOT.EXE!
Start with README.TXT, and RWEBFAQ.DOC. Previous users need to
read RWHIST.DOC.

(the version at ftp.dasoft.com.. is the original version
  "     "     " www.   "           "    latest      "   )

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Ulrich Boche wrote:
> I saw the following announcement from Lotus:
> "As of October 31st, 2001 support for cc:Mail will no longer be available."

As an HP200LX owner I don't think I'm missing anything with my
cc:Mail permanently burned into ROM.

I wonder how this will affect Martin Paul who runs Palmtop.Com
and those of us with accounts there?

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Is there a way to extract the domaine name of an ISP just by
logging in?

I have a mailbox which only provide the POP server but not the
SMTP server. Normally this not a problem because I just use the
SMTP server of the local ISP. I am going on a trip and I want
to try iPass. I have got a list of numbers to dial up at the
destination, and I can log in and retrieve my mail. But I have
problem sending out, since I am not logged in to my local ISP,
the SMTP server denies relaying the messages.

If I can get the domain name of the ISP at my destination, I
can probably figure out the domain name of the SMTP server,
since it is usually in the form of "smtp.domain name". Then I
can use the trick that Tony Hutchins mentioned -- SMTP=3DISP in
POST.CFG. But I have to find the domain name of the ISP at the
destination first.

Tech support of my local ISP told me that they only have a set
of dial up numbers from iPass and they do not know anything
about the ISP's that use these numbers.

So I have to find a way of getting the domain name by dialling up
and logging in to the ISP of my destination.

Any idea welcome. TIA.

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Time to ask for help.

My 200LX has started having problems opening APPT.ADB every morning.

If I create a new appointment database and merge the old into the new, it =
works fine until the next morning.  I can even
make the "Record Not Found" message appear by advancing the
system date by one day and re-opening the APPT application.

If I turn the date back 1 day, the problem goes away.

DBCHECK can find no problems with APPT.ADB.

Anyone got some idea of what is broken here?

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Hi All,

The program with source code may be downloaded from:

http://www.geocities.com/alfred1520/#vwbattlog

Best Regards,
Alfred

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Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: Small TSR that logs battery voltage readable?


>Hi Norbert,
>
>I have a program to prints battlog.log generated by Battlog (from SUPER)
>in ASCII text.  I'll be glad to send you the program if you are interested.
>
>Best Regards,
>Alfred
>
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>Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 1:20 PM
>Subject: Small TSR that logs battery voltage readable?
>
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>does someone know of a 'small' TSR  that frequently logs the battery
>>voltage with time stamps to a file for further processing? I studied
>>several voltage monitoring packages on S.U.P.E.R., but to  my knowledge
>>they either only display it, or they record it in binary  format, which
>>makes it more difficult for me to decode.
>>
>>Any hint?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Norbert
>>
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Hi Gary,

I haven't encountered the problem as you described.  However, I have seen
many strange behaviours when I have close to ten daily repeating
appointments
and after deleting them daily for more than several weeks.  Problem goes
away after I reset the repeat by setting a new start date.  Hope it helps.

Best Regards,
Alfred


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Date: Monday, November 05, 2001 7:33 PM
Subject: Record Not Found in Appt Every Morning


Time to ask for help.

My 200LX has started having problems opening APPT.ADB every morning.

If I create a new appointment database and merge the old into the new, it
works fine until the next morning.  I can even
make the "Record Not Found" message appear by advancing the
system date by one day and re-opening the APPT application.

If I turn the date back 1 day, the problem goes away.

DBCHECK can find no problems with APPT.ADB.

Anyone got some idea of what is broken here?

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Date:         Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:00:54 +0200
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Hi friends,

First, please be aware that if you want to use phone.scr to up/download
your phone book to/from the cellular phone with robot.exe, you need the
latest robot exe.
There is a little confusion about this, which I could fortunately clear
up together with Tony:

There are two versions of robot.exe which claim to be version 1.8.
One has a file date 05-11-01, this is the older one, which will NOT
work with phone.scr, at least not if you want to PUT your phone book.
GET works.

The other version is dated 08-12-01 and this is the one to use with
phone.scr.

The newest version is available at http://www.dasoft.com/roboweb
ATTENTION: The version on D&A's ftp server is NOT this new version
(ftp.dasoft.com/pub/www/roboweb.zip)!

Avi, how about removing old software versions? ;-)
I also saw an old MM/LX version some time ago, I think it was in the PE
directory of your ftp server.

Secondly: My procedure to synchronize phone books works already, thanks
to Tony, and now I want to refine it ia bit.
Tony, Stefan, other experts:
I sometimes get a timeout error in line 84 of phone.scr when PUTting my
phone book. seems that the phone doesn't answer "OK" because the number
which is to be transferred doesn't match some rules.
Do you know these rules?

1. Seems that the phone requires a "+" at the beginning fo each number.
Strange is only, that if you GET the phone book, there are no "+"s.

2. There seem to be limitations in the string length (of name and
number). Do you know exactly how long they are allowed to be? The same
limitations for all phones?

3. Maybe issues with special characters, such as Umlauts etc.?

4. In my file which phone.scr transfers to the phone, the names and
numbers are stored in this format:
+NUMBER|Lastname, Firstname

But in the phone the entries appear as
Firstname, Lastname

What is the reason? Is phone.scr involved in reordering names?

Any advice appreciated!

GTX
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Date:         Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:11:20 +0200
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Hi T39m users,

please connect a terminal emulation to your T39m (either WWW/LX in dumb
terminal mode or a laptop via IrDA) and issue the commands

at+cpbs="me"
at+cpbr=1,510

to the phone.
The terminal should now display all phone book entries.
Here it stops after the 26th - 30th entry (variable), although there
are 410 entries in the phone book (just sent with phone.scr and
verified that they are really in the phone book).

Also if I "get" the phone book with phone.scr, only abt 30 entries are
transferred.

What's up here? May this be a bug in the phone firmware?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 6 Nov 2001 23:40:00 +1300
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Tue,  6 Nov 2001 22:59:08 +1300 (NZDT)

02h58m14s ago ...
On Tue,  6 Nov 2001 09:00:54 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> The newest version is available at
> http://www.dasoft.com/roboweb

I'm pretty sure a link to this roboweb site does appear on the
www.dasoft front page, and also in the "announcements" and was
also mentioned in a recent D&A newsletter.

> I sometimes get a timeout error in line 84 of phone.scr when
> PUTting my phone book. seems that the phone doesn't answer
> "OK" because the number which is to be transferred doesn't
> match some rules.  Do you know these rules?

No, but was the text part long?
Just when putting to the ME? Maybe it's best to write to the
"SM" only then make the T39 itself transfer the SIM phonebook
to the ME - a cunning trick<G>

> 1. Seems that the phone requires a "+" at the beginning fo
> each number.  Strange is only, that if you GET the phone
> book, there are no "+"s.

Should be OK with or wothout the "+". Maybe the T39 uses a new
syntax for the "Write Phone Book Entry" command?

This is the phone.scr line -

send AT+CPBW=$n1,"$c2",$n2,"$it"\r

you could try without any $n2

send AT+CPBW=$n1,"$c2",,"$it"\r

> 3. Maybe issues with special characters, such as Umlauts
> etc.?

Indeed - and my T39 does not support +CSCS (select TE Character
set)!!!

> 4. In my file which phone.scr transfers to the phone, the names and
> numbers are stored in this format:
> +NUMBER|Lastname, Firstname
>
> But in the phone the entries appear as
> Firstname, Lastname
>
> What is the reason? Is phone.scr involved in reordering names?

No, phone,scr would sent the stuff after the "|" as one unit.

Daniel I wish you all the best in this.

Oh! I just looked up the PBW on page 108 of that T39 AT command
list and they explicitly say that for ME writing the T39
*interprets* the text as lastname,firstname. So, we have an
explanation for that one :) For SM writing it assumes the
opposite. Don't ask me why!<G>

There might be something tricky about the "+" and the type -
that's why I suggest leaving out that $n2 above - this forces
the phone to use its default. BTW its defaults are different
to the old days in fact, yes there is the problem I think. But,
too complicated for me to explain. They have a new type of 161
- we only used 129 and 145 in the script.

BTW I have no clue about the problem you noticed in your next
message. Maybe we need a PHONET39.SCR, carefully crafted with
the AT .PDF in full view :)

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Date:         Tue, 6 Nov 2001 02:36:09 -0800
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Hi Tony
>
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:43:12 +1300, Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ> =
wrote:
>
> > > ROBOT    EXE     24501 05-11-01   6:52p
> > >
> > > If this is not the latest, could you please send me yours?
> >
> > Mine is the same as in ROBOWEB.ZIP - it is dated around August
> > 2001 - version 1.8. I can't send it now, I'm on the run :)
>
> Mine is also from Roboweb (ftp.dasoft.com/pub/WWW/roboweb.zip,
> but its file date is 05-11-01. Version 1.8. ????!

Upload date is 5/11. Tony is quoting the date he got it onto
his machine.

> So probably another thing is wrong here.

Probably not.

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Tue,  6 Nov 2001 23:59:55 +1300 (NZDT)

23m46s ago ...
On Tue,  6 Nov 2001 02:36:09 -0800, Avi Meshar wrote:

> Upload date is 5/11. Tony is quoting the date he got it onto
> his machine.

True :) Very true :)

But it was probably less than a day old when I got it in my
machine - only a small change from the 5/11 version 1.8, so is
still 1.8. My fault really Avi, I should have mentioned it way
back. Normally too small a change (in fact it restored an
original ROBOT command) for a new release, but that
change turns out to be fairly specific to the phone.scr. I
could have suggested a small change to the script, but like to
let the original stand, if possible :)

Still, at least it is available with roboweb.zip.

And, sometimes it is nice to keep the odd old version on board.
But, I guess the robot.zip should now be updated on the ftp.

Caio, Tony

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Date:         Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:02:12 +0200
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Hi Al and list, (BCC goes to Martin Diehl, the OB800 Linux
IrDA driver programmer)

Al, I hope you don't mind that I send your message quoted to the list.
But you say yourself, that this topic could be of interest for some
people.

On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 21:42:43 +0100, mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu wrote:

> IR worked OK on W3.11 (using LapLink) on my OB4000, but when I went to
> W95 it no longer worked. It seems to me it may have worked at one time
> with my IBM760(W95), but I haven't had luck recently(W98). As I said,
> there are many OB800/200LX users, and I'm sure a solution would
> generate alot of interest...but probably more for W95/98 than LINUX?

Okay, What you say about W3.1 and W95 makes clear:
The hardware itself should be compatible to the LX in all Laptops and
IrDA dongles, since they follow the IrDA standard only on the
_physical_ layer, and IrDA's physical layer is SIR a.k.a. HPSIR. And
HPSIR is the standard the palmtop uses.

But IrDA defines a lot of stuff around the actual physical way of data
transmission. Keywords are IrCOMM, IrLPT, IrLAP, IrLMP and so on. I
won't go into detail here. See http://www.irda.org/standards/standards.asp
And all real IrDA-compliant drivers have
this stuff built-in, which is necessary to talk to cellular phones (we
see that in the IrDA implemementation Andreas has managed for WWW/LX.
He says it was a hard piece of work (I now understand what he means.
;-) ), to Palms, to IrDA modems, to IrDA LAN devices etc.

On my Homepage (IR-Device page) there is a description how to disable
all this IrDA stuff in Windows98, found by Juan Belmonte, which enables
you to use the plain HPSIR in Windows 98. At least I hope so.
I don't know if this works at all on an Omnibook 800. But it is
definitely worth a try.
ALthough if it works it would imply that Windows 95 should work okay by
default with the LX.... hm, I'm a little bit confused.
Could anyone please try it?

Go onto my IR device page
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ir_dev, scroll down into the last
section, click on "this document" in the very last paragraph, then
scroll down to the part "Installing with Windows 98" (all above that is
only important for Nokia Datasuite users).

Once all this IrDA stuff is disabled, every software _may_ be able to
use the IrDA (now plain SIR) interface as a COM port to connect to the
palmtop. I don't know. But this could be the solution.

Martin Diehl and I are working on a solution for Linux.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:02:19 +0200
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Hi friends,

I know there are some sed experts out there, so please could you guve
me the right sed command line to do the following:

I want to convert all my existing mindmaps created with MM/LX with the
Indent=| option set to MM/LX format with option Indent=
(i.e. PIM/PE compatible format.)

i.e. the sed should do the following:

Delete every first part of a line, if it begins with a "|" and then
follows an uncertain number of spaces.
i.e. this here (not a valid MM file, only examplary)

This is
|    to be processed
|by sed
to remove all
|          the | lines
please

should end up in

This is
to be processed
by sed
to remove all
the | lines
please


Thanks a lot
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:11:12 +0100
Reply-To:     "Helmuth E. Guenther" <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Daniel,

> 2. There seem to be limitations in the string length (of name and
> number). Do you know exactly how long they are allowed to be? The same
> limitations for all phones?

This is sim card dependent and also cellular sw dependent.

The latest nokia 6210 sw doesn't work using the same script as for
previous versions.

I ended up with a choice either stay with an old 6210 software and be
compatible with my 8110, etc cellulars or adjust the script for the
latest 6210 software.

> 3. Maybe issues with special characters, such as Umlauts etc.?

Using nokia 8110 (with datacard), 6210 Umlauts are OK.

> 4. In my file which phone.scr transfers to the phone, the names and
> numbers are stored in this format:
> +NUMBER|Lastname, Firstname
>
> But in the phone the entries appear as
> Firstname, Lastname
>
> What is the reason? Is phone.scr involved in reordering names?

You need to adjust the table, which might change with the sw version of
the phone; see above.

I contacted Nokia for docs. Answer: No docs are available.


Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:57:45 +0000
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Andrew King wrote:

> There are smartmedia to PCMCIA adaptors. I have a New Media
> brand adaptor (part number NMT00734).

I even saw a "Multi Card Adapter 4 in 1" standard PCMCIA card
which is capable of

-smart media card
-multi media card
-secure digital card
-sony memory stick card

unfortunately only CF is missing :-(

Get more information from:

http://www.carry.com.tw/products/Adapters/sdmca.htm

They also have a type II CF card adapter:

http://www.carry.com.tw/products/Adapters/cfcaii.htm


> One of these days I'll get LXPIC figured out so I can see
> pictures on the palmtop.

Just put LXPIC onto your path, then go to the JPG directory
and simply say LXPIC *.JPG

Stefan

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Tomas Moberg wrote:

> I have gotten A LOT of virus mails from him/her!
> >
> > is here anyone on the list with an email address starting with
> > "boblintw@..."?

Daniel, myself, and now you. Looks to be palmtop related.
Thanks to Jacques Belin for the Sircam info. I wrote to
"boblintw" and informed him/her about the infection.
The email didn't bounce back, but triggered just another
Sircam email. Hope it helped.

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On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 01:02:19PM +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Delete every first part of a line, if it begins with a "|" and then
> follows an uncertain number of spaces.

Dunno about the DOS version, but for good ol' Unix sed:

        s/\| *//

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> > Delete every first part of a line, if it begins with a "|" and then
> > follows an uncertain number of spaces.
>
> Dunno about the DOS version, but for good ol' Unix sed:
>
>         s/\| *//

I'll confirm that this works for DOS as well, using the SED from SUPER.  If
your text is in "a.txt", then the command line:

sed "s/\| *//" a.txt

or

type a.txt | sed "s/\| *//"

will format the output the way you want.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:45:30 -0500
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I had one of the Stancor power adapters and used it for several
years with no ill effects. This may be because I am not a power
user, most of the times my palmtop is unplugged and I don't use
a modem or network card that would require more power.
I used to plug the palmtop in overnight once a week to charge
the batteries.

I would have to agree with those who caution against cutting
corners on the power supply but it's not necessarily fatal (or
perhaps I'm just lucky).

Now I have gone to the other extreme, I am using the F1044A
adaptor from my Omnibook 425. It's rated at 12 volts at 2.5
amps. It even says "for use with HP computer products only" I
actually have an extra F1044A omnibook adaptor which I would
part with for $10 plus postage.

--
Andrew King
Ann Arbor Michigan
technology is the answer, what was the question?

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Date:         Tue, 6 Nov 2001 15:54:50 +0100
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One 2MB 200LX in very good condition: ( Bit dusty though)

Perfect screen and hinges. Nylon HP case. Manuals, connectivity kit ( just
the diskettes plus book, no cable) ( if required, adds to shipping costs.
Asking $200. Shipping in EU about $15.

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sed -e 's/\| *//' file_to_be_processed

-Wayne

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> I know there are some sed experts out there, so please could you guve
> me the right sed command line to do the following:
>
> I want to convert all my existing mindmaps created with MM/LX with the
> Indent=| option set to MM/LX format with option Indent=
> (i.e. PIM/PE compatible format.)
>
> i.e. the sed should do the following:
>
> Delete every first part of a line, if it begins with a "|" and then
> follows an uncertain number of spaces.
> i.e. this here (not a valid MM file, only examplary)
>
> This is
> |    to be processed
> |by sed
> to remove all
> |          the | lines
> please
>
> should end up in
>
> This is
> to be processed
> by sed
> to remove all
> the | lines
> please
>
> Thanks a lot
> daniel
>
> --
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>
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Date:         Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:11:43 -0500
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I got the following:

FORBIDDEN
You do not have permission to access the document you are attempting
to access.

This could be a result of too much bandwidth being used by your
connection, i.e., if you are attempting to download a large number of
files.

If this is the case, please e-mail the webmaster to schedule a time
for you to do so.

Otherwise, please try again later.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:15:38 -0500
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Has anyone heard of a Latin-English dictionary. There should be one
for lxdict but I haven't found it. Kinda handy to have for all those
smartasses always quoting Latin phrases.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:18:58 +0100
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On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, Ed Padin wrote:

> I got the following:
>
> FORBIDDEN
> You do not have permission to access the document you are attempting
> to access.

I didn't, so you might want to e-mail David or Ian... Perhaps they run a
bandwidth module for Apache that's run amok, or you really have been
hogging the bandwidth ;-)


bye,

Laust

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I am looking for offers on the following: Must sell ASAP

1 200LX 2mb with used once in original packaging with everything.
1 used 95 LX broken screen
2 sparcom docking stations for 95lx

1 16mb Olympus smart media cards
2  32mb Olympus smart media cards
1 4 mb Kingmax ata flash card
2 10 mb Intell EXCA flash card series 2
several 24 baud PCMCIA modems new
1 w/o packaging

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Date:         Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:38:52 +0100
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On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, LEONG Ka Tai wrote:

> Is there a way to extract the domaine name of an ISP just by
> logging in?

Depending on your setup, it might be possible. The IP address you are
assigned by the ISP usually translates into a hostname within the ISP's
domain. Using a tool such as "nslookup" you can ask a DNS server for your
IP address' hostname and extract the domain from that. It depends on your
setup, which TCP/IP stack you use, but it should be possible, and it could
be automated through a batch file.


bye,

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Sorry typo 2400 baud modems at least on w/ fax also


I am looking for offers on the following: Must sell ASAP

1 200LX 2mb with used once in original packaging with everything.
1 used 95 LX broken screen
2 sparcom docking stations for 95lx

1 16mb Olympus smart media cards
2  32mb Olympus smart media cards
1 4 mb Kingmax ata flash card
2 10 mb Intell EXCA flash card series 2
several 2400 baud PCMCIA modems new
1 w/o packaging



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Subject:      Re: Latin dictionary
Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman@jdedwards.com>
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Thanks for the lead. has anyone tried this on the LX? it looks like
the minword one is the more practical one for most 200LX
implementations. I think you can't get 600K free unless you have very
few drivers loaded.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Feldman, Robert mailto:Robert_Feldman@jdedwards.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:49 AM
> To: 'Ed Padin'
> Subject: RE: Latin dictionary
>
>
> You might try http://users.erols.com/whitaker/wordsdos.htm
>
> You can also get a plaintext word list from the same site at
> http://users.erols.com/whitaker/words.htm
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Date:         Tue, 6 Nov 2001 15:28:12 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Nokia 8210 and ir
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Hi,

Currently I have been able to download the whole phone
book and then saving it to a text file. I am trying to
get this file transformed into a Phone database file,
but I have not yet managed it.
It is quite easy to download the phone book, although
it may look complicated the first time.

You will need two programs:

IR.exe (24.323 Kbytes) from D&ASOFT and a program
called Concopy.exe (2.100 Kbytes). You can download
Concopy at Simtel and IR.exe from D&ASoft's web site.
It is easier if you copy both programs to the same
folder.
IR.exe enables the IrDa communication and Concopy
redirects the data that is sent to the screen to a
text file. This simply means that everything you see
on the screen wil be saved to a file.

First:
Set the phone and the Hp 200lx with both IR ports
facing each other and enable IR in the Nokia.

Second:

*Start concopy and IR by typing:

concopy c:\tel.txt ir server 9600

*When IR loads type:

AT+CPBR=1,150

*(Upper case please!!)
This AT command will read all phone book entries.

Third: Exit IR, then type:

  exit

* This last command will end Concopy.

Fourth: You will have a file called tel.txt which
contains a list with all of your phones entries!!!

Fifth: Import the file to Lotus 123 and erase all
unnecessary stuff. Leave only phone numbers and names.

I suppose all this could be automated with a batch
file and a macro.

Sixth: Append this entries into your Hp 200lx's phone
database. I haven't been able to do it yet ;)

O.K. it may look terribly complicated, but it isn't.

Cheers,


Inigo







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1 Creation Studio by Emu.  complete desktop music system Ultra high end
audio card with memory and software bundle, "Creative Labs Sound
Blaster"....line in - line out and mic for direct record and playback,
AWE 64 gold with 8mb ram...64 bit sound card unbelievable realistic
sound, "Sonic Sound Forge XP"...Professional award winning digital
audio/sample editor create cut & paste .wav files."Vienna Sound Font
Studio"...Professional sound editor can download sounds to Awe 64
"Jammer Hit Session"...create instruments and sounds based on your own
chords and styles "Cakewalk Express SE"...Midi Sequencer 256 midi
tracks, record & play digital to hard drive sync midi with digital) Too
much more to list. There is nothing that you can't do with this
interactive full featured sound card & audio software package. It will
turn your PC into a real live recording studio. You won't believe the
extent of the magic in one box. Brand new in sealed packaging...........
Originally cost $800. Best offer!
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

1 Digispeech "Portable Sound Plus" 16 bit sound wave and midi sound
module,Includes Lotus - Sound software, does text to speech, "DOSTALK" &
"DOSREADER"applications Built in speaker // Sampling 4 to 44khz //
Complete parallel port sound solution for Windows 3.1 or greater Pass
thru printer port/ audio in and out jacks and mic / under 9 oz. size 7''
x 3''  Retail was $300 Best Offer!
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

6 Media Vision "AudioPort" sound modules Smaller version of Portable
sound Plus (above) many similar features. Very small parallel port sound
card with software retail was $175 each is in sealed packaging. More
info available if serious only. Best offer!

Contact me for anything from computer systems and peripherals to digital
cameras and camcorders. Send specs and target price and I will save you
a good deal of money. The more flexible you are the more I can save you.

All the best Neil Sheppard

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<b>1 Creation Studio by Emu.</b>&nbsp; complete desktop music system Ultra
high end audio card with memory and software bundle, <b>"Creative Labs
Sound Blaster".</b>...<i>line in - line out and mic for direct record and
playback</i>, <b>AWE 64 gold with 8mb ram...</b><i>64 bit sound card unbelievable
realistic sound,</i> <b>"Sonic Sound Forge XP"...</b><i>Professional award
winning digital audio/sample editor create cut &amp; paste .wav files.</i><b>"Vienna
Sound Font Studio"...</b><i>Professional sound editor can download sounds
to Awe 64 </i><b>"Jammer Hit Session"...</b><i>create instruments and sounds
based on your own chords and styles <b>"</b></i><b>Cakewalk Express SE"...</b><i>Midi
Sequencer 256 midi tracks, record &amp; play digital to hard drive sync
midi with digital</i>) Too much more to list. There is nothing that you
can't do with this interactive full featured sound card &amp; audio software
package. It will turn your PC into a real live recording studio. You won't
believe the extent of the magic in one box. Brand new in sealed packaging...........
Originally cost $800. Best offer!
<br>___________________________________________________________________________________________________
<p><b>1 Digispeech "Portable Sound Plus" </b>16 bit sound wave and midi
sound module,Includes Lotus - Sound software, does text to speech, "DOSTALK"
&amp; "DOSREADER"applications Built in speaker // Sampling 4 to 44khz //
Complete parallel port sound solution for Windows 3.1 or greater Pass thru
printer port/ audio in and out jacks and mic / under 9 oz. size 7'' x 3''&nbsp;
Retail was $300 Best Offer!
<br>___________________________________________________________________________________________________
<p><b>6 Media Vision "AudioPort" sound modules </b>Smaller version of Portable
sound Plus (above) many similar features. Very small parallel port sound
card with software retail was $175 each is in sealed packaging. More info
available if serious only. Best offer!
<p>Contact me for anything from computer systems and peripherals to digital
cameras and camcorders. Send specs and target price and I will save you
a good deal of money. The more flexible you are the more I can save you.
<br>All the best Neil Sheppard</html>

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QTY ITEM DESCRIPTION -
1 Phillips "Velo" Palmtop Computer with docking station and accessories.
Very slightly used in excellent condition. Retailed for over $700 with
docking station. Windows CE compatible. In original packaging.
2 PC to TV modules: Lets you view computer or laptop on TV or large
screen. 1 has remote control. Both brand new in the box retail price was
$200 & $250 for the remote unit
1 Ricoh RDC 300 Digital camera. Perfect condition . Very compact easy to
use. Built in led monitor or lens viewing. Also has built in memory,
shoots around 30-40 shots in hi res. More pix in low res. Works without
cards or any outside memory device. Downloads to PC easily. Also has
video thru playback. You can view shots on TV and tape right to VHS.
Solid every day digital camera. Fits in your shirt pocket retail $550.
8 approximately assorted 2400-3600 baud fax/modem cards. (56k baud with
upgrade software)  Various brands/specs some new, some slightly used
some in sealed packaging. Offer on one, or take all. If interested I can
get detailed information.
1 Logitech "Fotoman" digital PC camera w/software and manual.  Slightly
used works in Black and White. May work in color with later drivers.
1 "Epson Photo PC" digital camera. Used in perfect condition comes with
cable and manual.
1 "Practical Peripheral" PM 144MT II 2400 Baud External fax modem.
excellent condition.

Best Offer accepted on all above product

If you would like me to put you on my list for the "new product" which
comes in every now and then please let me know. You must be ready to
commit once you are notified as this product goes in an instant. If that
is not how you would like to work then this is not for you. If you would
like to save money on the refurbished, discontinued, overstock, end of
life, and "open box" product, all with MFR warranty send an email.
Describe what you are looking for. Give me the specs you would like -
as   as the specs you could live without if need be. Also give me a
target price. Example: Between $600-$750 The more flexible your request
- the better chance of locating the item you want and saving you the
greatest amount of money. If you need more information on anything I
will gladly provide it. I have been in the business for many years and
sold to some of the top Internet wholesalers, retail stores and both to
businesses and individuals. I can provide references for all!!

Available now: Dozens of laptop and desktop computers coming off lease.
Various brands and specs.
Available on ongoing basis:  Refurbished, discontinued, all in original
packaging. Everything comes with MFR warranties. This is always
available to me.
Available NEW PRODUCT from time to time. "Brand new systems" digital
cameras, and camcorders etc. at tremendous savings!

I look forward to the best savings for you. Neil Sheppard


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QTY ITEM DESCRIPTION -
<br><b>1 Phillips "Velo" Palmtop Computer with docking station and accessories.</b>
Very slightly used in excellent condition. Retailed for over $700 with
docking station. Windows CE compatible. In original packaging.&nbsp;
<br><b>2 PC to TV modules</b>: Lets you view computer or laptop on TV or
large screen. 1 has remote control. Both brand new in the box retail price
was $200 &amp; $250 for the remote unit
<br><b><i>1 Ricoh RDC 300 Digital camera</i></b>. Perfect condition . Very
compact easy to use. Built in led monitor or lens viewing. Also has built
in memory, shoots around 30-40 shots in hi res. More pix in low res. Works
without cards or any outside memory device. Downloads to PC easily. Also
has video thru playback. You can view shots on TV and tape right to VHS.
Solid every day digital camera. Fits in your shirt pocket retail $550.
<br><b>8 approximately assorted 2400-3600 baud fax/modem cards.</b> (56k
baud with upgrade software)&nbsp; Various brands/specs some new, some slightly
used some in sealed packaging. Offer on one, or take all. If interested
I can get detailed information.
<br><b>1 Logitech "Fotoman" digital PC camera w/software and manual.</b>&nbsp;
Slightly used works in Black and White. May work in color with later drivers.
<br><b>1 "Epson Photo PC" digital camera.</b> Used in perfect condition
comes with cable and manual.
<br><b>1 "Practical Peripheral" PM 144MT II 2400 Baud <u>External</u> fax
modem</b>. excellent condition.
<p>Best Offer accepted on all above product
<p>If you would like me to put you on my list for the <b><u>"new product"</u></b>
which comes in every now and then please let me know. You must be <b>ready
to commit</b> once you are notified as this product goes in an instant.
If that is not how you would like to work then this is not for you. If
you would like to save money on the refurbished, discontinued, overstock,
end of life, and "open box" product, all with MFR warranty send an email.
Describe what you are looking for. Give me the specs you would like - as&nbsp;&nbsp;
as <b>the specs you could live without</b> if need be. Also give me a target
price. Example: Between $600-$750 The more flexible your request - the
better chance of locating the item you want and saving you the greatest
amount of money. If you need more information on anything I will gladly
provide it. I have been in the business for many years and sold to some
of the top Internet wholesalers, retail stores and both to businesses and
individuals. I can provide references for all!!<b></b>
<p><b>Available now: </b>Dozens of laptop and desktop computers coming
off lease. Various brands and specs.
<br><b>Available on ongoing basis:</b>&nbsp; Refurbished, discontinued,
all in original packaging. Everything comes with MFR warranties. This is
always available to me.
<br><b>Available <u>NEW PRODUCT</u> from time to time</b>. <b>"Brand new
systems"</b> digital cameras, and camcorders etc. <b><u>at tremendous savings!</u></b>
<p>I look forward to the best savings for you. Neil Sheppard
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1 Creation Studio by Emu.  complete desktop music system Ultra high end
audio card with memory and software bundle, "Creative Labs Sound
Blaster"....line in - line out and mic for direct record and playback,
AWE 64 gold with 8mb ram...64 bit sound card unbelievable realistic
sound, "Sonic Sound Forge XP"...Professional award winning digital
audio/sample editor create cut & paste .wav files."Vienna Sound Font
Studio"...Professional sound editor can download sounds to Awe 64
"Jammer Hit Session"...create instruments and sounds based on your own
chords and styles "Cakewalk Express SE"...Midi Sequencer 256 midi
tracks, record & play digital to hard drive sync midi with digital) Too
much more to list. There is nothing that you can't do with this
interactive full featured sound card & audio software package. It will
turn your PC into a real live recording studio. You won't believe the
extent of the magic in one box. Brand new in sealed packaging...........
Originally cost $800.

1 Digispeech "Portable Sound Plus" 16 bit sound wave and midi sound
module,Includes Lotus - Sound software, does text to speech, "DOSTALK" &
"DOSREADER"applications Built in speaker // Sampling 4 to 44khz //
Complete parallel port sound solution for Windows 3.1 or greater Pass
thru printer port/ audio in and out jacks and mic / under 9 oz. size 7''
x 3''  Retail was $300

6 Media Vision "AudioPort" sound modules Smaller version of Portable
sound Plus (above) many similar features. Very small parallel port sound
card with software retail was $175 each is in sealed packaging. More
info available if serious only.

Best offer accepted on all items!

Contact me for anything from computer systems and peripherals to digital
cameras and camcorders. Send specs and target price and I will save you
a good deal of money. The more flexible you are the more I can save you.

All the best Neil Sheppard

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<b>1 Creation Studio by Emu.</b>&nbsp; complete desktop music system Ultra
high end audio card with memory and software bundle, <b>"Creative Labs
Sound Blaster".</b>...<i>line in - line out and mic for direct record and
playback</i>, <b>AWE 64 gold with 8mb ram...</b><i>64 bit sound card unbelievable
realistic sound,</i> <b>"Sonic Sound Forge XP"...</b><i>Professional award
winning digital audio/sample editor create cut &amp; paste .wav files.</i><b>"Vienna
Sound Font Studio"...</b><i>Professional sound editor can download sounds
to Awe 64 </i><b>"Jammer Hit Session"...</b><i>create instruments and sounds
based on your own chords and styles <b>"</b></i><b>Cakewalk Express SE"...</b><i>Midi
Sequencer 256 midi tracks, record &amp; play digital to hard drive sync
midi with digital</i>) Too much more to list. There is nothing that you
can't do with this interactive full featured sound card &amp; audio software
package. It will turn your PC into a real live recording studio. You won't
believe the extent of the magic in one box. Brand new in sealed packaging...........
Originally cost $800.
<p><b>1 Digispeech "Portable Sound Plus" </b>16 bit sound wave and midi
sound module,Includes Lotus - Sound software, does text to speech, "DOSTALK"
&amp; "DOSREADER"applications Built in speaker // Sampling 4 to 44khz //
Complete parallel port sound solution for Windows 3.1 or greater Pass thru
printer port/ audio in and out jacks and mic / under 9 oz. size 7'' x 3''&nbsp;
Retail was $300
<p><b>6 Media Vision "AudioPort" sound modules </b>Smaller version of Portable
sound Plus (above) many similar features. Very small parallel port sound
card with software retail was $175 each is in sealed packaging. More info
available if serious only.
<p><b><u>Best offer accepted on all items</u></b>!
<p>Contact me for anything from computer systems and peripherals to digital
cameras and camcorders. Send specs and target price and I will save you
a good deal of money. The more flexible you are the more I can save you.
<br>All the best Neil Sheppard</html>

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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> Depending on your setup, it might be possible. The IP address you are
> assigned by the ISP usually translates into a hostname within the ISP's
> domain. Using a tool such as "nslookup" you can ask a DNS server for =
your
> IP address' hostname and extract the domain from that. It depends on =
your
> setup, which TCP/IP stack you use, but it should be possible, and it =
could
> be automated through a batch file.

Thank you for your prompt response.

You are a bit over my head. :) I do not know anything about
TCP/IP stacks. I am using the WWW/LX suite. Is it possible to use
"nslookup" with WWW/LX? Where can I find "nslookup" and how to
set up the batch file? You have to hold my hand on this.

Actually, I have solved the problem. I sent a message from one
mailbox to the other via the destination ISP. By careful
reading of the internet headers, I found out the domain name. I
edited POST.CFG and now I can send messages through the smtp
server of the destination ISP.

But it is a clumsy method, and probably will not work every
time (I am lucky this time because all the server domain names
include the country codes). So I am very interested in learning
about "nslookup".

Ka Tai

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Just wanted to add that for those of you running the HP95LX the polarity of the
DC connector is IRRELEVANT!  The 95 incorporates a diode bridge on the external
power input and that fact alone make the 95 extremely versatile when running
from an external supply.  The 100/200 used a couple of the bridge diodes for
charging or something (do not have access to a schematic so can't tell for sure)
which necessitated using an AC adaptor who's palm connection has the correct
polarity.

Remember to KEEP SMILING :-)

Nigel R in sunny South Afirca

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The screen shift problem was indeed the spd31 driver.  I've loaded it now
and the problem is resolved.

Thanks to all.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:49:52 +0100
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Hi All!
I've found out that Simcity classic is now available free
at http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/ .
I've tried to run it but no success (no CGA mode availabale)

Is this version different from the commercial one? (regarding display
drivers)

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Zoltan

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 16:40:30 +0100
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Uzi wrote:

> I've found out that Simcity classic is now available free
> at http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/ .
> I've tried to run it but no success (no CGA mode availabale)

From the readme:

VIDEO MODES:
-----------
SimCity Classic can run in several video modes:

Hercules Monochrome
EGA Hi-Res Monochrome (640x350 2 Color)
VGA/MCGA Hi-Res Monochrome (640x480 2 Color)
EGA Hi-Res Color (640x350 16 Color)
VGA/MCGA Lo-Res Color (320x200 256 Color)
VGA Hi-Res Color (640x480 16 Color)

So that does indeed rule out CGA...

> Is this version different from the commercial one? (regarding display
> drivers)

"Simcity Classic" is the slightly revamped version of the original game,
with better sound and music support. "Simcity Classic" was released in
1992 (or thereabouts), including a Windows 3.1 version which was quite
good. The original Simcity is from 1989 and should run in CGA (although I
have never tried it on the LX).

I guess there would be no harm (ethically anyway) in distributing the
original version now that the 1992 revamp is available for free...


bye,

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 10:10:56 -0600
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I've never seen any problem with list members selling something
of interest on this list.  And even when that guy (Scott?) was
selling cards regularly I was all for it.  It's something we all
use and the notices were small.

But the ads from Niel Shephard seem to be just plain spam.  They
guy seems to be running a store on our list.  If this is a one
time thing I see no problem with it.  But he seems to indicate
that he's going to have a steady supply of every kind of
electronic device.

Maybe I'm out of line here.  I'm not sure.  But I'm pretty
concerned.  This took up about 1/4 of the unusually large digest
I received overnight.

Anybody else have thoughts about this?

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I agree. His ads should be something you can opt-in to receive _separately_
from the list, since they don't seem to have much to do with the HP
palmtops.

-----Original Message-----
From: Barry mailto:barry@FBTC.NET
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 10:11 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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I've never seen any problem with list members selling something
of interest on this list.  <snip>

But the ads from Niel Shephard seem to be just plain spam.  They
guy seems to be running a store on our list.  <snip>

Anybody else have thoughts about this?

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 10:29:23 -0600
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Bryan Biggers wrote:

> Yes, that is right. The original version did run on CGA, and I have run
> it on the LX in the distant past. I MAY still have a copy. It was not
> all that much fun to run without a mouse, it was hard to move the cursor
> around all the time with the arrow keys; that gets old fast and
> everything is done by clicking. Bryan
>
>
> Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
>
>
>>
>> "Simcity Classic" is the slightly revamped version of the original game,
>> with better sound and music support. "Simcity Classic" was released in
>> 1992 (or thereabouts), including a Windows 3.1 version which was quite
>> good. The original Simcity is from 1989 and should run in CGA (although I
>> have never tried it on the LX).
>>
>> I guess there would be no harm (ethically anyway) in distributing the
>> original version now that the 1992 revamp is available for free...
>>
>>
>> bye,
>>
>> Laust
>
>
>

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 13:52:46 -0500
Reply-To:     Neil Sheppard <nshep@MAIL.COM>
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You know to me there seems to be something wrong with a person who
always finds time for tiniest little issues to pick at. And rather than
getting to the root of them - he whines to everyone but the person who
seems to be at the cause. Like you In this case...... It's such a big
deal but you can't even say what bothers you! Instead you put out
feelers like "I may be out of line etc," or "Maybe I'm wrong but..."
You're not sure what the problem is, but if you can find a few others
who are as petty as you maybe you can stick pins in someone because they
have something that seems to be working just a little bit, and God
forbid people might like it. Oh what pain!! How that must sting!!

I had a neighbor who moved into my building right into the next
apartment. On the very first day he complained to the super that my
son's bicycle was out in the hall! He could have done the gentlemanly
thing by knocking on my door - introducing himself, and telling me his
legitimate problem you see..only his problem wasn't legitimate. The bike
certainly didn't hurt the decor....there was none! and there was no way
that it was in his way or blocking anything!! I had kept a bike in the
same place (outside MY DOOR)  for 22 years.... Now for the first time it
became a problem! My next door neighbor had to go down to the super who
had to come up so the original message could be delivered by someone
else.... to validate it..... Just as you must!

I became a list member recently. With a computer / electronics sales
background I saw I might be able to help some of the users with product
I have or have access to. So I sent a list out. I usually sell only in
"large quantity" but I thought why not let a few people in on a good
deal if they need something. Rather than disturbing folks I suggested
that those who are interested let me know if they would like me to keep
them on my product list. In that way I wouldn't send it out to anyone
who was not interested. I had a good response and feel as though I am
helping people save a good deal of money. Then I see your message, and
that this somehow has become a problem for you.

I suggest that you have issues and should run ...don't walk, to someone
who can help you with these. Try to understand that life goes on around
you. You should find something you enjoy doing and stick with it. If you
hear laughter don't think people are laughing at you or making fun. Just
do what you do and take pleasure in that. No one will bother you but if
they do just sit down and write a letter telling them to in the most
polite way to make them understand how trivial and foolish they really
are. All the best of luck Neil Sheppard


Barry wrote:

> I've haven't seen any problem with list members selling something
> of interest on this list.  And even when that guy (Scott?) was
> selling cards regularly I was all for it.  It's something we all
> use and the notices were small.
>
> But the ads from Niel Shephard seem to be just plain spam.  They
> guy seems to be running a store on our list.  If this is a one
> time thing I see no problem with it.  But he seems to indicate
> that he's going to have a steady supply of every kind of
> electronic device.
>
> Maybe I'm out of line here.  I'm not sure.  But I'm pretty
> concerned.  This took up about 1/4 of the unusually large digest
> I received overnight.
>
> Anybody else have thoughts about this?
>
> Barry
>
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Why doesn't someone Neil Sheppard come on we're all big boys. If I am offending
someone kindly let me know not the whole world first. Does anybody agree with
this? Neil Sheppard

"Feldman, Robert" wrote:

> I agree. His ads should be something you can opt-in to receive _separately_
> from the list, since they don't seem to have much to do with the HP
> palmtops.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry mailto:barry@FBTC.NET
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 10:11 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 5 Nov 2001 to 6 Nov 2001 (#2001-335)
>
> I've never seen any problem with list members selling something
> of interest on this list.  <snip>
>
> But the ads from Niel Shephard seem to be just plain spam.  They
> guy seems to be running a store on our list.  <snip>
>
> Anybody else have thoughts about this?
>
> Barry
>
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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:00:48 -0800
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All,

Well, it looks like the card that I have is BAD. So far all attempts on
several different types of machines (200lx, Win98, NT,) have all been to no
avail. Card is not recognized by anything I have been able to put it into
including a Compaq photo kiosk at Kinko's!

I will be taking the seller up on his offer of a refund.

Avi,  I would like to thank you publicly for the help you gave me in trying
to format the bad 440MB Sandisk PC card. It's almost worth the trouble to
finally meet another denizen on the HPLX list! :-)

Chris (rclott@ro.com), Yves (leurquin@bigfoot.com),  Pal Al (
hobchi@hotmail.com) and all of the list.

Thanks for your help. It's a pleasure to know so many helpful people.

Joe

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:04:46 -0500
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Why doesn't someone tell Neil Sheppard if he is off the mark or
otherwise inappropriate. Come-on we're all big boys! If I am offending
anyone kindly let me know.. Not the whole world first. Does anybody
agree with this? Neil Sheppard

"Feldman, Robert" wrote:

> I agree. His ads should be something you can opt-in to receive _separately_
> from the list, since they don't seem to have much to do with the HP
> palmtops.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry mailto:barry@FBTC.NET
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 10:11 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 5 Nov 2001 to 6 Nov 2001 (#2001-335)
>
> I've never seen any problem with list members selling something
> of interest on this list.  <snip>
>
> But the ads from Niel Shephard seem to be just plain spam.  They
> guy seems to be running a store on our list.  <snip>
>
> Anybody else have thoughts about this?
>
> Barry
>
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Date:         Tue, 6 Nov 2001 14:53:37 -0800
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Joe and I met for lunch and general get-to-know-you then got down to
business: Trying to beat that 440MB down into service.

Well, :-( Nogo. No matter what we did, it told us no way... Yuck. Unless
the "hail of formatting" did something to the drive to make it forget its
mission in life, it is possible that the drive is simply, summarily, and
unfortunately, just DEAD!

The best part was meeting Joe! I highly recommend that if you have time and
interest and you are near the LAX to give him a shout and meet him. This is
what I call "class". <G> You may not agree with him on everything (I don't)
but he is a great guy to disagree with, really fun.

Joe, when you stop blushing, just let me tell you thank you again for the
face-to-face, I enjoyed meeting you very much.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:19:21 -0500
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I just located my HP 200LX which I was looking for and I found it has a
Hewlett Packard 20 mb flashdisk memory card in it. Does anyone know what
the flashdisk is worth by itself. If you don't have a specific price, it
would be just as helpful to get a range of what might be considered a
fair asking price. Thank you. Neil Sheppard

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:32:30 -0500
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On Mon,  5 Nov 2001 21:04:04 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

Daniel

> Thanks a lot
> I hope I can soon come up with a comfortable solution to up- and
> download phone books together with a piece of maintaining or at least
> synchronizing software...

Looking forward to whatever utility you make :-)

Regards

--
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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:36:03 -0500
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Subject:      Neil Sheppard HPLX-L store (WAS: HPLX-L Digest - 5 Nov 2001 to 6
              Nov 2001 (#2001-335)
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> Why doesn't someone tell Neil Sheppard if he is off the mark or
> otherwise inappropriate. Come-on we're all big boys!

I don't have a problem with it at all. Not everything he's selling is
HP200LX specific stuff but he is selling older/refurb hardware and I
think many people on the list would find that stuff interesting. He's
posted a few ads but it's not like he's doing it every day. I would
hate to discourage vendors participating in the list as long as they
do it constructively. I would have more trust for a vendor that
actively participated on the list then the typical Ebay 'd00d'.

Neil, one thing I would suggest is to keep the messages formatted in
plain text and as terse as possible.

BTW: Whatever happened to that 'Scott' dude? I guess he finally ran
out of flash cards.
ABTW: Yooz guys that get the list in digest form should take time to
edit the subject header.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 21:13:50 +0100
Reply-To:     Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG>
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Sundisk just anounced a new 1GB CF card.

=46rom the press release :

"The 1GB SanDisk CompactFlash card is expected to be available at retail
in Q1 2002. The card is expected to sell for under $800."
   ( http://www.sandisk.com/pressrelease/011105_bigcf.htm )
  =20
Well two questions :   =20

- do it will work on the palmtop ?

- How many weeks to fill it ? (hey, remember in 1985, we thought we
  could never fill a 100 MB hard disk <g>)


Jacques.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:54:12 -0500
Reply-To:     Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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From:         Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>
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Have you ever wanted your palmtop to have the look and feel of your
favorite desktop GUI?

Now you can, with X-Finder and your choice of 14 different OS themes now
available for download now at:
 http://www.angelfire.com/ego/palmtop/

Choose from:

Amiga Workbench 3.x
Aqua (MacOS X)
BeOS
CDE (Common Desktop Environment)
Gnome
IRIX
KDE (K Desktop Environment) 2.x/3.x
MacOS 8.x/9.x
NeXT (NextStep)
OLWM (Open Look Window Manager)
OS/2 Warp 4 (IBM)
PalmOS
QNX Rtos (Photon MicroGUI)
Windows 9.x/ME

Send comments or questions to me via this List, or e-mail me privately at
martinb@NOSPAMidirect.com (without the "NOSPAM", of course) and with
"X-Finder Themes" in the Subject line.

Bruce in Toronto
http://www.angelfire.com/ego/palmtop/

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 22:00:59 +0200
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Hi Andrew

On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:45:30 -0500, Andrew King <aking5@MEDIAONE.NET> wrote:

> Now I have gone to the other extreme, I am using the F1044A
> adaptor from my Omnibook 425. It's rated at 12 volts at 2.5
> amps. It even says "for use with HP computer products only" I
> actually have an extra F1044A omnibook adaptor which I would
> part with for $10 plus postage.

Yes, these adapters (F1044A and F1044B, the latter supplies 3.3A) are
ideal. I also use them daily for my Omnibook and my palmtop.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 22:01:00 +0200
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Hi friends,

On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 07:06:36 -0800, Wayne Thompson <mewayne@PACBELL.NET> wrote:

> sed -e 's/\| *//' file_to_be_processed

thanks for your suggestions. I choose this one and it did its job
perfectly (although I had to replace the single quotes by double
quotes).

If anyone is interested: I have created a set of two batch files which
take all your MM files in the current directory and convert them from

NoteIndent=|

format to

Noteindent=

format, which is compatible to PE's outline format.
The NoteIndent=| variant is also compatible to PE outline, but it is
not as easy to handle and to read, IMO, and there is less horizontal
space for the notes if every line begins with a | and a few spaces.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 22:01:01 +0200
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Hi Inigo

On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 15:28:12 -0800, "M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" <imazagra@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> First:
> Set the phone and the Hp 200lx with both IR ports
> facing each other and enable IR in the Nokia.
> Second:
> *Start concopy and IR by typing:
> *When IR loads type:
> *(Upper case please!!)
> This AT command will read all phone book entries.
> Third: Exit IR, then type:
>   exit
> * This last command will end Concopy.
> Fourth: You will have a file called tel.txt which
> contains a list with all of your phones entries!!!
> Fifth: Import the file to Lotus 123 and erase all
> unnecessary stuff. Leave only phone numbers and names.
> I suppose all this could be automated with a batch
> file and a macro.

If you have a WWW/LX license, you can use WWW/LX in conjuntion with
Robot/LX and the robot script PHONE.SCR for exactly that purpose.
It is a one-line command then. ;-)

This is what I'm currently trying to do.
Actually I concentraate more on uploading the phone book to the phone
after extracting the relevant entries from the HPLX's phone book.
This is working already.

Downloading is a little bit difficult, because every phone behaves
differently when you issue the AT+CPBR command.
So I won't come up with a general solution which works for every phone.
In case my solution doesn't work, the user has to modify phone.scr
himself.

> Sixth: Append this entries into your Hp 200lx's phone
> database. I haven't been able to do it yet ;)

I haven't done so either, but I won't go that deep into it.
I could imagine it is fairly easy to do with gdbio or so. You probably
have to reformat the phone book file. The best choice for that is
probably to write a custom C or pascal  program or use an AWK script.

Good luck!

If you are finished, we could combine our solutions, make up a package
from that and offer it for download somewhere.

If you can automate your download process, it would be really good,
because then also non-WWW/LX-licensees had a way to download their
phone books easily.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 22:49:52 +0200
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Hi friends,

not exactly palmtop related, since the palmtop can only boot to its
own DOS, but:

On my homepage there are now several boot disks for download.
MS-DOS 6.2 installation disks, MS-DOS 7 boot disks, one especially for
the HP Omnibook 800, and Linux boot disks. One of the latter is a very
powerful rescue system which can be used to recover bad partition
tables etc. with all needed tools aboard.

Regarding legality: Since Microsoft announced that DOS becomes
abandoned soon, I think no one should really have a problem with the
DOS disk images offered publicly. But if there are serious problems,
I'll remove them again.

URL:
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/bootdisks

GTX
daniel

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacques Belin" <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG>

> - How many weeks to fill it ? (hey, remember in 1985, we thought we
>   could never fill a 100 MB hard disk <g>)

I could fill about half of it in one day with a single database program I
have, about a quarter more in about a week or so if I scrounge around
desperately for every DOS program and database I can throw at it (Win3.0?
not worth it).   Then I would scratch my head wondering how to fill up the
rest.   :-)

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Date:         Thu, 8 Nov 2001 07:48:25 +0800
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Subject:      Re: Neil Sheppard HPLX-L store (WAS: HPLX-L Digest - 5 Nov 2001
              to 6 Nov 2001 (#2001-335)
In-Reply-To:  <NFBBIIMKOLAOGFKOJCHDAEJJCGAA.ohdamnthathurts@yahoo.com>; from
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On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:36:03PM -0500, Ed Padin wrote:
> Not everything he's selling is HP200LX specific stuff but he is selling
> older/refurb hardware and I think many people on the list would find
> that stuff interesting.

Though an arguably better list for that is SurvPC <survpc@tmonroe.com>,
dedicated to the preservation and daily use of outmoded PC hardware.
(Some folks there might in fact argue that a 200LX /is/ a SurvPC. 8-)
If anyone's interested in checking out that list, send a blank email to
<survpc-subscribe@tmonroe.com>.

We now return you to your regular LX clinic.  8-)

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Wed,  7 Nov 2001 20:35:22 -0500 (EST)

My Officical Stand on "For Sale" postings:

1 - Items of an "LX nature" are welcomed & encouraged

2 - Please prefix all subjects with "FS:" so people can filter them.

3 - If your items are of a "non LX nature", please use the "OT:"
prefix (Off Topic) and please do this sparingly...only if you are sure
someone on the HPLX-L would be interested(from a previous discussion
for instance).

THANKS!

Cheers...AJKind

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Date:         Thu, 8 Nov 2001 03:04:19 +0000
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> Has anyone heard of a Latin-English dictionary. There should be one
> for lxdict but I haven't found it. Kinda handy to have for all those
> smartasses always quoting Latin phrases.

Oh, did you find James Joyce on Guttenburg? (G)

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:58:55 -0800
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Tony Hutchins wrote:
> Tue,  6 Nov 2001 22:59:08 +1300 (NZDT)
>
> 02h58m14s ago ...
> On Tue,  6 Nov 2001 09:00:54 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> > The newest version is available at
> > http://www.dasoft.com/roboweb
>
> I'm pretty sure a link to this roboweb site does appear on the
> www.dasoft front page, and also in the "announcements" and was
> also mentioned in a recent D&A newsletter.

Yes, Left column in main page, about 2/3 way down there is
ROBOWEB with link to www.dasoft.com/roboweb.

It is in the announcements too.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:58:48 -0800
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Russel Brooks wrote:
> I wonder how this will affect Martin Paul who runs Palmtop.Com
> and those of us with accounts there?

Likely no effect unless he needs support. The announcement was
that you cannot buy it or get support on it.

It is a remarkably stable product and probably will not need
support for a long long time.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:58:44 -0800
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Hi Folks,

Tony Hutchins wrote:

Re: ROBOWEB.ZIP

> (the version at ftp.dasoft.com.. is the original version

GONE!!! I deleted it to reduce confusion. Only one version -
the latest - exists, see next line.

>   "     "     " www.   "           "    latest      "   )

This one is good! Tony can update www.dasoft.com/roboweb but
not the ftp.dasoft.com so he has the latest version in his
section of the D&A Website.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Avi, how about removing old software versions? ;-)
> I also saw an old MM/LX version some time ago, I think it was in the PE
> directory of your ftp server.

Daniel, Tony used the latest Robot.exe which he got directly
from Andreas into roboweb.zip.

The problem WAS that there WAS an old roboweb.zip on
ftp.dasoft.com (and I did not even remembered it was there!) -
IT IS GONE now. If you want ROBOWEB.ZIP use Tony's
www.dasoft.com/roboweb ...

As to ROBOT.ZIP It is now the newest as of sometime early on
7th November.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:59:03 -0800
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Maybe jp2@vatican.vt knows? <g> (I am not sure what the CC
for Vatican is.) Write in Polish for faster services <G>...

  Avi M.

Ed Padin wrote:
> Has anyone heard of a Latin-English dictionary. There should be one
> for lxdict but I haven't found it. Kinda handy to have for all those
> smartasses always quoting Latin phrases.
>
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Jacques Belin wrote:
> Sundisk just anounced a new 1GB CF card.
  ...snip...

> - do it will work on the palmtop ?

No idea. I hope so.

> - How many weeks to fill it ? (hey, remember in 1985, we thought we
>   could never fill a 100 MB hard disk <g>)

I have a 512MB card in the Palmtop for about 1 year now. I
still have 88MB available. I keep backups for a long time, and
even cheat: I use it as a way to transport huge files between
my Win98 desktop and other Win and Linux machines <G>... I
also have several complete intranet sites that I am editing
for someone.

Maybe that gives you a sense for the size of a 1GB card.

On the 1G Microdrive (not used on the Palmtop) I loaded Win98,
Win95 many huge upgrades and it is nearly empty still <g>...

So what would you say - maybe 12 months to fill it? I think if
I get one of these I'll put all the Gutenberg texts on it for
example. That might make a dent in it.  Right now I do not
even dare _think_ in such terms.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:59:12 -0800
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Too-too Cool! Makes my mouth water... Maybe I _should_ look at
X-Finder ... <G>...

Bruce Martin wrote:
> Have you ever wanted your palmtop to have the look and feel of your
> favorite desktop GUI?
>
> Now you can, with X-Finder and your choice of 14 different OS themes =
now
> available for download now at:
>  http://www.angelfire.com/ego/palmtop/
>
> Choose from:
>
> Amiga Workbench 3.x
> Aqua (MacOS X)
> BeOS
> CDE (Common Desktop Environment)
> Gnome
> IRIX
> KDE (K Desktop Environment) 2.x/3.x
> MacOS 8.x/9.x
> NeXT (NextStep)
> OLWM (Open Look Window Manager)
> OS/2 Warp 4 (IBM)
> PalmOS
> QNX Rtos (Photon MicroGUI)
> Windows 9.x/ME
>
> Send comments or questions to me via this List, or e-mail me privately =
at
> martinb@NOSPAMidirect.com (without the "NOSPAM", of course) and with
> "X-Finder Themes" in the Subject line.
>
> Bruce in Toronto
> http://www.angelfire.com/ego/palmtop/
>
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Interestin Handheld Chronology

http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/handheld/index.htm

By the way,

Does anyone know how many 95LX, 100LX and 200LX HP sold in US and =
Worldwide?

I mean is it in the tens or hundreds of thousands or in the millions?



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Date:         Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:34:10 +0530
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stefan, daniel : repeating earlier msg :

from what i understand .. palmpc.zip is a program
which can emulate an hplx200 on a desktop ..
correct ?

where to get it ?
the url of geocities.com/SiliconValley/.... doesn't
work .. any other url ?

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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 23:57:22 -0800
Reply-To:     Mike Cheponis <mac@WIRELESS.COM>
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Hi,

My 200LX has developed a symptom I've never seen before.

On the "r" "f" and "c" keys, when pushed, feel like the standard tactile
feedback -but- the characters do not register in the application.

So if I touch type "firetruck" I get "ietuk".

If I press REAL HARD on the key, then I can get it to register.

Anybody else seen this, and anybody have a suggestion on how to fix it?

(No other keys exhibit this behavior.)

Thanks -Mike

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Date:         Thu, 8 Nov 2001 13:35:23 +0100
Reply-To:     "Bel, Michel" <Michel.Bel@ATOSORIGIN.COM>
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Correction / addition:

> One 2MB 200LX in very good condition: ( Bit dusty though)
>
> Perfect screen and hinges. Original Nylon HP slipcase. Manuals,
> connectivity kit software ( just the original diskettes plus book, no
cable)
>
> Asking $200 / acceptable offer. Shipping in EU about $15, rest of the
world $30

Has socketed 1MB board, can accept the Times2tech 4MB board without
soldering.

+ Including original HP Charger: UK wall socket version, plus EU
continental/dutch socket adapter.

+ Including CDR with 125 MB LX freeware, abandonware and shareware. ( from
SUPER, and extra's s.a. Taskbar, MSWord5, etc.

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Date:         Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:20:05 -0500
Reply-To:     Ken Hansen <n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET>
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This mail list is a community of folks using HP 100/200LX palmtops, we try
and keep "on topic" as much as possible, but when members of our community
stray off-topic, it's OK, because by and large, they tend to stay on topic.

Your posts are not "on topic", never have been, and can be quite long.

I believe your initial mailing offered to stop sending us updates if we are
not interested in your offers... Well, we are up to three list members that
are not interested - how many more do you need to see before you will
unsubscribe and take your offers elsewhere?

Thanks,

Ken

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From: "Neil Sheppard" <nshep@MAIL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 1:52 PM
Subject: Reply to your alarm


> You know to me there seems to be something wrong with a person who
> always finds time for tiniest little issues to pick at. And rather than
> getting to the root of them - he whines to everyone but the person who
> seems to be at the cause. Like you In this case...... It's such a big
> deal but you can't even say what bothers you! Instead you put out
> feelers like "I may be out of line etc," or "Maybe I'm wrong but..."
> You're not sure what the problem is, but if you can find a few others
> who are as petty as you maybe you can stick pins in someone because they
> have something that seems to be working just a little bit, and God
> forbid people might like it. Oh what pain!! How that must sting!!

<rambling rant snipped>

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Date:         Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:52:01 +0100
Reply-To:     Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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Hi I have tried to use the information from www.dasoft.com tips &
tricks page.

I do not use SC and I start post/lx in Maxdos.

I would be quite content with Post/lx just opening msg.htm with hv. I
guess I realy wouldnt need pns200.

Why does it not work? I have tried to start post/lx from plain c:/ (no
c:\200) www -d "!post) but when i do a ctrl-M i get the choice to save
or open. I choose open and the screen flickers, but nothing more.

Help.
Thanks

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Interesting article in today's New York Times about the use of handhelds in the military.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/08/technology/circuits/08MILI.html



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There was a discussion of this in July of 2000: see
http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/0007/msg00737.html

One estimate was 1.75 million, but AFIK, no definitive figure emerged.

BTW, as a courtesy to the many list members who don't use Outlook, et al.,
please send your posts as plain text, not html or rtf.

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Interestin Handheld Chronology

http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/handheld/index.htm

By the way,

Does anyone know how many 95LX, 100LX and 200LX HP sold in US and Worldwide?

I mean is it in the tens or hundreds of thousands or in the millions?

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Thanks for the info,
I've found the original as well distributed as shareware.
( http://home.arcor.de/uweramm/spiele3.htm )

And it runs fine!

Thanks again,
Zoltan

Id=E9zet Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK> level=E9b=F5l

>On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Uzi wrote:
>
> > I've found out that Simcity classic is now available free
> > at http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/ .
> > I've tried to run it but no success (no CGA mode availabale)
>
> From the readme:
>
> VIDEO MODES:
> -----------
> SimCity Classic can run in several video modes:
>
> Hercules Monochrome
> EGA Hi-Res Monochrome (640x350 2 Color)
> VGA/MCGA Hi-Res Monochrome (640x480 2 Color)
> EGA Hi-Res Color (640x350 16 Color)
> VGA/MCGA Lo-Res Color (320x200 256 Color)
> VGA Hi-Res Color (640x480 16 Color)
>
> So that does indeed rule out CGA...
>
> > Is this version different from the commercial one? (regarding
display
> > drivers)
>
> "Simcity Classic" is the slightly revamped version of the original
game,
> with better sound and music support. "Simcity Classic" was released in
> 1992 (or thereabouts), including a Windows 3.1 version which was quite
> good. The original Simcity is from 1989 and should run in CGA
(although
> I
> have never tried it on the LX).
>
> I guess there would be no harm (ethically anyway) in distributing the
> original version now that the 1992 revamp is available for free...
>
>
> bye,
>
> Laust
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Avi,

<Blush> <G> It was great to finally meet you as well. If it took a bad
440MB :-( to do it, it was worth it!!!!
We had a great time at lunch (Sizzler) talking 200lx, computers in general
and playing with toys!!!!

I bragged about my new NEXII MP3 player and we verified that it would run a
1GB microdrive. No MP3's on it to play, but I'm sure that will change :-).
At least it powered the drive and showed the directories.

Give me a call any time you get in the area, we'll do lunch again!!!

In fact, if anyone on the list gets into the LAX area let me know.

Perhaps a 200lx party/conference?

Avi, thanks again for your help and the too kind words.

Meeting you as indeed the highlight of what shall become known as the
"440MB Incident"

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Uzi wrote:
> I've found out that Simcity classic is now available
> free at http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/ .
> I've tried to run it but no success (no CGA mode
> availabale)
> Is this version different from the commercial one?
> (regarding display drivers)

The original SimCity had CGA drivers.  Then, sometime after
SimCity 2000, I think, they published SimCity Classic.  I think
it was with some other Sim programs but I don't remember the
details clearly.

Anyway they made a few changes in it.  They took out some of the
graphics modes and made it only run with the CD inserted.
That's probably been cracked over and over by now.

Anyway SimCity Classic isn't quite the same as the original
SimCity.

I probably have my old copy of SimCity somewhere.  I'll see if I
do.  Does anyone know if it's legal to distribute it now?

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Hi,
        I have a few spreadsheets and database files that I've developed
on my 200LX and would like to share.  But I've got a few copyright hurdles
to jump first, so hang on...
        But what I wish to know is what other machines this stuff could be
used on; I mean, which other machines run v2.4 of 1-2-3 (or nearby
versions, anyway)?  Which other machines can take the ---.gdb files from
the 200LX dBase SW without wailing or gnashing of files?
                                        thanks
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Hi Mike

On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 23:57:22 -0800, Mike Cheponis <mac@WIRELESS.COM> wrote:

> So if I touch type "firetruck" I get "ietuk".

Dust or other dirt between the contact foils. I know that.
The only chance to make the keys work as new again is to take the
palmtop including the keyboard apart and clean the contacts.

It is very difficult to do for a person who doesn't have experiences
with the palmtop hardware.
Relatively easy to do if you have taken the palmtop apart once.
To remove the keyboard you have to do a tricky and time-consuming
thing: The whole key array is mounted onto the shell of the palmtop by
many, many little sticks. You have to press all these sticks out of the
plastic shell.

Once you have removed the key array you can lift the upper foil with
the key bubbles (which make this "click" for every keypress) and clean
the contacts with alcohol.

GTX
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I recall some discussion on registering VR. Now that I
started using the program, I am wondering if it is still
possible to get the registered version? Seems like I recall
the author not responding?

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Le Thu, 8 Nov 2001 06:25:15 -0800
"Wayne E=2E Yang" <wayne_yang@YAHOO=2ECOM> a =E9crit:

> Interesting article in today's New York Times about the use of handhelds i=
n the military=2E
> http://www=2Enytimes=2Ecom/2001/11/08/technology/circuits/08MILI=2Ehtml

Isn't during the Gulf War they used HP200lx ?

I dont remember=2E=2E=2E

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Probably not legal, as the publisher still makes and sells versions of the
game.

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<snip>

I probably have my old copy of SimCity somewhere.  I'll see if I
do.  Does anyone know if it's legal to distribute it now?

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Fri,  9 Nov 2001 08:26:01 +1300 (NZDT)

05h34m ago ...
On Thu,  8 Nov 2001 14:52:01 +0100, Tomas Moberg wrote:

> Why does it not work? I have tried to start post/lx from
> plain c:/ (no c:\200) www -d "!post) but when i do a ctrl-M
> i get the choice to save or open. I choose open and the
> screen flickers, but nothing more.

Maybe POST/LX cannot find HV.EXE? What do you have in SYSTEM
for the PNS= value? Where is HV.EXE in your palmtop? Is it in
your DOS path?

As you launch POST/LX with maxdos, you can use the loaded
maxdos tsr to give you the best chance of opening a msg.htm:

PNS=maxdos hv

will work if maxdos.com and hv.exe are in your DOS path, and
you don't have an hv.bat in your path. Otherwise use something
fully explicit like pns=c:\bin\maxdos.com a:\hv\hv.exe

You may be able to shorten it to pns=hv. Later you may want to
try pns=maxdos pns200.exe (handy for pictures or for reading messages
in READ/LX or VR or ..)

Good luck Tomas!

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Wayne E. Yang wrote:

> Interesting article in today's New York Times
> about the use of handhelds in the military.
> http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/08/technology/circuits/08MILI.html

Indeed. Can be got with HV from:

http://www.nytimes.com/nytimes-partners/avantgo/technology.html

(Same article is at both places - I saw them in my
ROBOWEB/LX messages this morning)

- Tony
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bob,

is this true ?

1.75 million HpLx200's sold ?

looks a bit too much ..
where are all those good people ?

from the traffic in this list and in other
forums .. it looks like there are only a
few thousand users .. and of them only
a few hundreds are active on any lists

pk

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> There was a discussion of this in July of 2000: see
> http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/0007/msg00737.html
>
> One estimate was 1.75 million, but AFIK, no definitive figure emerged.

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Tks bob

.. pk


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> I can't find my original zip, so I zipped the palmpc.com file, which is
> attached.
>

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Use one of these compressed air canisters to direct air into
the gap between the keys and the plate where the legend of the
keys is printed. Blast air in there. In most cases the dust
and particles of various debris gets between the keys and the
pressure points they push on to make the "click" (and register
the key), prevents the contacts. Blasting it out with a strong
current of air usually fixes it.

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 >One 2MB 200LX in very good condition: ( Bit dusty though)

That's the one reason why i would not buy this unit - the dust!

If dust gets under the keyboard you need to take it apart. Not an easy task
if you are not a "Daniel" :)

btw. Daniel, how much do you charge for a dust job (Staub-Putz)?

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Laust:
 >Well, I guess if you don't need Regular Expressions (the real
 >strength of xgrep, apart from the small size of course), you can
 >save a whole 3.5kb by deleting it ;-)

so, what is an "Un-regular" expression, and how/what for would you use it on
the LX?

from XGREP.doc:

You can use XGREP to --
 display the lines in a file that contain a particular word, phrase, or
pattern;
 count those lines in which a particular pattern occurs; or
 generate a list of files that refer to a given topic.

XGREP supports the following command line options:

 -c Line count only
 -h No file names
 -l File names only
 -n Number lines
 -o Errors to stdout
 -r Recursively search subdirectories
 -s Silent about inaccessible files
 -v Non-matching lines
 -x No magic: all operators need \
 -y Case-insensitive match

to be frank, i wouldn't need any of this, and XTGOLD finds case-insensitive
matches without parameters anyway

cheers
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Another article at the URL you give includes the following:

"Mr. David W. Packard, the eldest son of one founder of the company,
issued a statement late on Tuesday siding with Walter B. Hewlett, son of the
other founder, who earlier in the day said he and his family's trust would
oppose the merger of HP and Compaq. That places the planned combination
under attack from a growing group of disgruntled relatives of the founders
of the Silicon Valley company. The fate of the deal, analysts say, may well
now hinge on whether other family members join in dissent."

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<snip>

http://www.nytimes.com/nytimes-partners/avantgo/technology.html

<snip>

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Bob,

You'll find the author, Gilles Kohl, at:

Gilles Kohl <gilles@compuserve.com>

I registered mine on April 2 last. AFAIR his postal address is in a
readme file in the unregistered version, and he likes to get a postcard
from your locality.

Richard.

"Robert K. Meyer" wrote:

> I recall some discussion on registering VR. Now that I
> started using the program, I am wondering if it is still
> possible to get the registered version? Seems like I recall
> the author not responding?
>
> Bob

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Le Thu, 8 Nov 2001 01:48:25 -0500
Tralornik <Tralornik@WORLDNET=2EATT=2ENET> a =E9crit:

> Interestin Handheld Chronology
>=20
> http://www=2Eislandnet=2Ecom/~kpolsson/handheld/index=2Ehtm

Missing (for example=2E=2E=2E) :

- 1979 : HP-41 (fisrt alpha-numeric programmable calculator)

- 1981? (before or after the HP75, I don't rememeber) : HP-71 (to be
  very brief, something similar to the HP-75, but more powerful, with
  almost freely available ROM code sources=2E=2E=2E etc=2E=2E)=2E Very muc=
h models
  solds than the HP75=2E=2E=2E

- 1993 (april ?) : HP100

- 1994 (June/july ) : HP200


> By the way,
>=20
> Does anyone know how many 95LX, 100LX and 200LX HP sold in US and Worldwid=
e?

HPHAND members, do you have good archives ? I seems to remember that our
Corvallis friends gave us some precise numbers somewere 1995-1996=2E=2E=2E
=20

Jacques=2E

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Could someone please tell me where to get this as well?

(Or just email it to me...)

Thanks

> stefan, daniel : repeating earlier msg :
>
> from what i understand .. palmpc.zip is a program
> which can emulate an hplx200 on a desktop ..
> correct ?
>
> where to get it ?
> the url of geocities.com/SiliconValley/.... doesn't
> work .. any other url ?
>

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Is there anyway to extract the HP100/200LX built-in
programs so that they can be run on a 286 or 386 CGA
machine?

Thanks

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No,
The built in apps need the ROM in the LX to run.  The HP Connectivity
pack has DOS versions of the programs that will run on EGA (or better)
displays.  There also exists Win 3.1 versions of APPT, HPCALC and
ADDRESS BOOK.

HTH,
Tom


Questor Jones wrote:
>
> Is there anyway to extract the HP100/200LX built-in
> programs so that they can be run on a 286 or 386 CGA
> machine?
>
> Thanks
>
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> ---- Original Message -----
> from: "neil sheppard" <neil.sheppard@worldnet.att.net>
> to: "pksharma" <pksharma@CAL.VSNL.NET.IN>
> sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:13 AM
> Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers?

> There may be a very large list out there. If I locate it would you like me
> to get you on it?  How would you like to wake up and check your email
then
> have to edit about 1.75 million messages before lunch every day?? Hmmm....
> Neil Sheppard




Yes, yes, Oh yes !

please do locate the list for ME ! and for once
receive millions of msgs .. if there are so many
being sent abt the Lx !

i am very very sure that a thing like the Lx200
is not a product .. it is a philosophy .. we have
great guys having great moments .. at all points
of time .. the simplest users to the most
powerful users .. the absolute newbies to the
absolute gurus .. and there are the stefans, the
daniels, the hals and the Avis  :-)

THIS is something to be studied .. logged ..
recorded .. (shit its looks like i'm being
emotional abt it) ..

the birth .. and immortality of the Lx200 and
its kith and kin is a message to entire Mankind.
it is not there by design .. its there because only
IT could be there .. majestically occupying its
place where all other successive PDAs can
never even hope to be .. its universal appeal
is a result of its utility .. it is very very alive
and cannot die .. probably .. until another one
similar or better is born (morphyone is in
hibernation) ..

i have been harping on this philosophical
view for a loooong long time .. it doesn't
seem to have ANY takers .. but everyone
is in love with his Lx200 .. proud of it ..
wanting to keep it going .. even when 1gig
flashcards have come around ..

and people meet people in eating places,
fairs, clubs and drooool over it ..

Hal and Stefan .. palmtop papers, DASoft,
Thaddeus and Sargeant .. these people can
give a REALISTIC estimate of the population
of the LX around the world .. made .. sold ..
serviced .. owned .. used .. whatever ..

So let's get the facts in a realistic frame ..
and see where we and the Lx stand ..

If so many Lx's are really really there all
around .. where are all those good people ?

Its time these good people are called
and put together .. for the pride .. for
the purpose .. what is it that made this
thing tick .. like the studies on the
other areas of human existence .. this
is a very very important area .. and
for the sake of posterity, we need to
STUDY this phenomenon and turn
this chance happening to a solid
reality .. which can be emulated
for the sake of making good things
happen .. and LAST and LAST for
as long as possible

(oh dear .. this msg has really become
tooo long .. sorry guys .. its how i feel
about this GOOD thing .. don't we all?)

.. pk

ob, u cn thro some light on the numbers
made .. the Covalis connection ;-) 

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Could someone tell me why the 200LX goes for so much
more money than the 100LX ??

I mean I know the differences...but they all seem so
minor....couple games, little more memory expansion
(which cost big $$), hot swap (like I care if I need
to turn it off for a second)....

Besides, with a huge CF card and 2MB version, the
upgradability doesn't seem all that great.  (100LX can
be DOUBLESPEEDed at least).

So what gives ?

I am not trying to knock the 200LX, I am really very
curious as to why it seems to be worth so much more
than a 100LX?





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Date:         Mon, 5 Nov 2001 20:47:33 +0530
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Tralornik,

i thought palmpc.com would emulate an hplx200 on a desktop .. it doesn't ?

when i ran it nothing happened ..

send over the 2 programs u r mentioning .. let's see
what they do .. if nothing else .. atleast they
will 'put the PC into CGA mode' :-)

..pk

(that was fast .. r u on line now ? yahoo chat ?)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tralornik" <Tralornik@worldnet.att.net>
To: "pksharma" <pksharma@cal.vsnl.net.in>
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: palmpc.zip


>
> pk,
>
> What are you expecting them to actually do?
>
> I thought they were a zip of the built-in apps, but apparently they are
not.
>
> If you are looking for a program that simply allows you to run .EXE
programs
> written for the palmtop on your PC.  I have one that I know works (on most
> apps) and I would be to glad to send it to you.  (It is called PALRUN, and
> there is also another one called CGAGRAPH).  Both of them basically put
the
> PC into CGA mode to allow the HP programs to run.
>
> Tralornik
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "pksharma" <pksharma@cal.vsnl.net.in>
> To: <cwbrad@attglobal.net>; "Tralornik" <Tralornik@worldnet.att.net>; "Bob
> Christopher" <bob@palmtop.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 9:17 AM
> Subject: palmpc.zip
>
>
> > attached are the files i recd from other members .. if you can get them
to
> > work .. let me know too .. i am not able to make them work .. yet !
> >
> > pk
> >
>
>

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Quicken is the big difference for me.

Plus, the character generator ROM is better; I can distinguish '8' and '0'
(that zero) on the 200LX, while it's harder to distinguish them on the 100LX.
The phone app is arguably better on the 200LX

I think some things are worse:  The stylized letter on the 200LX keycaps
aren't as readable as the 100LX keycaps.  And the Fn shift which is in
purple on the 200LX is not as high contrast as the aqua that is on the
100LX.

Also, jet black is cooler on the 100LX imho than olive drab on the 200LX.

-Mike


On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Questor Jones wrote:

> From: Questor Jones <questor_jones@YAHOO.COM>

> So what gives ?
>
> I am not trying to knock the 200LX, I am really very
> curious as to why it seems to be worth so much more
> than a 100LX?

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ok !

whatever i said about the Lx200 .. read to include
the Lx100 too !

:-)

pk

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> Could someone tell me why the 200LX goes for so much
> more money than the 100LX ??
>
> I mean I know the differences...but they all seem so
> minor....couple games, little more memory expansion
> (which cost big $$), hot swap (like I care if I need
> to turn it off for a second)....
>
> Besides, with a huge CF card and 2MB version, the
> upgradability doesn't seem all that great.  (100LX can
> be DOUBLESPEEDed at least).
>
> So what gives ?
>
> I am not trying to knock the 200LX, I am really very
> curious as to why it seems to be worth so much more
> than a 100LX?
>
>
>
>
>
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On Tue,  6 Nov 2001 13:57:44 +0000 (GMT), Stefan Peichl wrote:

> Tomas Moberg wrote:
>
> > I have gotten A LOT of virus mails from him/her!
> > >
> > > is here anyone on the list with an email address starting with
> > > "boblintw@..."?
>
> Daniel, myself, and now you.

And me..

> Looks to be palmtop related.

Yes it seems to be.

> Thanks to Jacques Belin for the Sircam info. I wrote to
> "boblintw" and informed him/her about the infection.

I did too..

> The email didn't bounce back, but triggered just another
> Sircam email. Hope it helped.

I had the same happend to me.

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hi,

sorry for being off topic, but maybe one of the computer cracks on
the list knows something about my problem.
Our IT dept. wants to give us new computers with Win2000 OS.
We still use a clipper program in our daily routine and in the
tests we had a problem with printing. The program uses its own
printer driver and sends command characters to the printer to
initialize, choose print fonts etc. and under Win2000 these command
characters are not interpreted by the printer but printed.
Additionally the printout starts after 20 seconds, not immediately
like before under Win 98.
I suspect that the command characters are changed by W2k so the
printer does not get the characters I send. The commands start with
ESC, ascii 27 and so on.

TIA for any input.

cheers,
Werner

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Date:         Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:48:46 +0200
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Hi Nathalie

On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:08:54 +0100, Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR> wrote:

> If dust gets under the keyboard you need to take it apart. Not an easy task
> if you are not a "Daniel" :)

For me it is no easy task either. I know how to do it, and I can do it,
but it costs me a lot of time.

> btw. Daniel, how much do you charge for a dust job (Staub-Putz)?

25 US$. Plus shipping costs.

GTX
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Hi nathalie

On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:07:01 +0100, Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR> wrote:

> so, what is an "Un-regular" expression, and how/what for would you use it on
> the LX?

Regular expressions are much more powerful than just a text search.

Read the thread about MM/LX file conversion with sed from the last few
days. It will give you an idea.

I wanted to eliminate all characters of the beginning of a line, if
they begin with a "|" and continue with an uncertain number of spaces.
Following text should be preserved and thus moved to column 1 of each
line.

No problem with regular expressions. A text search (and replace) would
have problems with this uncertain number of spaces.

GTX
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Hi Leo

On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 11:33:53 -0600, Leo Bellantoni <bellanto@FNAL.GOV> wrote:

>         I have a few spreadsheets and database files that I've developed
> on my 200LX and would like to share.  But I've got a few copyright hurdles
> to jump first, so hang on...

I'm curious!

>         But what I wish to know is what other machines this stuff could be
> used on; I mean, which other machines run v2.4 of 1-2-3 (or nearby
> versions, anyway)?  Which other machines can take the ---.gdb files from
> the 200LX dBase SW without wailing or gnashing of files?

Lotus 123 v2.4 runs on every DOS PC I think, the graphical add-on only
on VGA or CGA(?) compatible computers.
No problem to import 1-2-3 files into recent Excel versions and
StarOffice under Linux.

The GDB files are a proprietary format for the LX database.
One way to use them on other machines is to convert them to CSV and
import them into other databases or spreadsheets.
The other way is to use programs written for Linux and Windows which
can open GDBs.
I don'T know any program for Windows, but someone (I think it was
Gerhard Gonter) wrote a perl script for Linux (maybe also usable with a
Perl port for Windows?) whici lets you browse through GDBs and even
modify them.

GTX
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Hi,

Well, I did disassemble the keyboard and washed both the "fingers" and
the conductive "bubble" side of the keyboard matrix with 99% isopropyl
alcohol, and it does seem a little better than before.  It wasn't so bad
with your hints!

But, alas, although it is better than before, sometimes the keys still
miss.

Is is possible I just plum wore out the keyboard?

Thanks again!  -Mike


On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 19:19:11 +0200
> From: Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Keys: Tactile feedback but no electrical contact?
>
> Hi Mike
>
> On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 23:57:22 -0800, Mike Cheponis <mac@WIRELESS.COM> wrote:
>
> > So if I touch type "firetruck" I get "ietuk".
>
> Dust or other dirt between the contact foils. I know that.
> The only chance to make the keys work as new again is to take the
> palmtop including the keyboard apart and clean the contacts.
>
> It is very difficult to do for a person who doesn't have experiences
> with the palmtop hardware.
> Relatively easy to do if you have taken the palmtop apart once.
> To remove the keyboard you have to do a tricky and time-consuming
> thing: The whole key array is mounted onto the shell of the palmtop by
> many, many little sticks. You have to press all these sticks out of the
> plastic shell.
>
> Once you have removed the key array you can lift the upper foil with
> the key bubbles (which make this "click" for every keypress) and clean
> the contacts with alcohol.
>
> GTX
> daniel

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Fri,  9 Nov 2001 22:11:07 +1300 (NZDT)

17h13m18s ago ...
On Thu,  8 Nov 2001 16:57:49 +0100, Uzi wrote:

> Thanks for the info,
> I've found the original as well distributed as shareware.
> ( http://home.arcor.de/uweramm/spiele3.htm )
>
> And it runs fine!

It sure does! I always wanted to find the first version. After
"install" for the palmtop it only takes up 360K and simcity.exe
is only 190K. Very fast!

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Hi all,
         I was wondering if anybody on this list has went over to "the =
other side".  I have been eyeing the new Jornado 568 handheld with it's =
cf slot and strong processor.  The big reason I personally haven't went =
to win ce units was because of the 200lx's database, but I understand =
now that there are database programs for the new handhelds.  Does =
anybody know if the new handhelds running pocket pc 2002 win can run any =
dos programs?  I would be interested to hear of anybody that has went =
from the 200lx to a handheld like the hp 568.  These are expensive units =
and it would really be a pain to get one and find out that there was =
something that I used the 200lx for that I couldn't do with the =
handheld.  Please feel free to respond off list, I know this runs very =
close to "heresy".  Thanks in advance for any replys.

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side".&nbsp; I have been eyeing the new Jornado 568 handheld with it's =
cf slot=20
and strong processor.&nbsp; The big reason I personally haven't went to =
win ce=20
units was because of the 200lx's database, but I understand now that =
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handhelds running pocket pc 2002 win can run any dos programs?&nbsp; I =
would be=20
interested to hear of anybody that has went from the 200lx to a handheld =
like=20
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pain to get=20
one and find out that there was something that I used the 200lx for that =
I=20
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list, I=20
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Date:         Fri, 9 Nov 2001 06:48:50 -0600
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You know, my LX would be just so much more useful if I had a
decent dictonary program for it that would run in DOS. Such a
thing must have existed at one time, does anyone know where I can
get one? Bryan

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> On the "r" "f" and "c" keys, when pushed, feel like the standard =
tactile
> feedback -but- the characters do not register in the application.

You may have dirt under those keys.  Try "blasting" them out with one of =
those
cans of stuff for spray cleaning keyboards.  You could also take the =
keyboard
apart to clean it.  Check www.hplx.net for photos of this operation (I =
think
this is the right web site).

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Date:         Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:08:52 -0700
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PALMPC is like PALRUN and INT5F: it allows you to run programs made for the
LX on your desktop computer. What they do is intercept the special HPLX
video routines (int 5F calls in assembly language) and translate them to
regular CGA/VGA calls. If you want to run Lotus 1-2-3 on your desktop, you
will need to get a copy of that program.

There is GDBWin, however, which is a Windows version of the LX's database
program.

-----Original Message-----
From: pksharma mailto:pksharma@CAL.VSNL.NET.IN
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 9:18 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Tralornik,

i thought palmpc.com would emulate an hplx200 on a desktop .. it doesn't ?

when i ran it nothing happened ..

send over the 2 programs u r mentioning .. let's see
what they do .. if nothing else .. atleast they
will 'put the PC into CGA mode' :-)

..pk

(that was fast .. r u on line now ? yahoo chat ?)

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To: "pksharma" <pksharma@cal.vsnl.net.in>
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: palmpc.zip


>
> pk,
>
> What are you expecting them to actually do?
>
> I thought they were a zip of the built-in apps, but apparently they are
not.
>
> If you are looking for a program that simply allows you to run .EXE
programs
> written for the palmtop on your PC.  I have one that I know works (on most
> apps) and I would be to glad to send it to you.  (It is called PALRUN, and
> there is also another one called CGAGRAPH).  Both of them basically put
the
> PC into CGA mode to allow the HP programs to run.
>
> Tralornik
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "pksharma" <pksharma@cal.vsnl.net.in>
> To: <cwbrad@attglobal.net>; "Tralornik" <Tralornik@worldnet.att.net>; "Bob
> Christopher" <bob@palmtop.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 9:17 AM
> Subject: palmpc.zip
>
>
> > attached are the files i recd from other members .. if you can get them
to
> > work .. let me know too .. i am not able to make them work .. yet !
> >
> > pk
> >
>
>

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Date:         Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:13:38 +0100
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I do not know about palmpc.zip, but I doubt whether it is an LX emulator. I
believe the HP LX Connectivity Pack
(CPack) comes nearest to emulating an hplx200 on a desktop. It is a
commercial product, available from Thaddeus.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:12:46 +0100
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Most pcs running DOS should be able to run these older versions of 1-2-3, I
believe. However, the files can immediately be opened in Excel. There are
just some incompatible features, but not many. GDB files
will run in CPack, the HP LX Connectivity Pack (commercially available from
Thaddeus), on DOS machines, or with GDBWin under Windows. GDBWin was
originally developed in Japanese, but an English version can be downloaded
free from Super and from Thaddeus, if I am right. I have some GDB files with
many fields per record which GDBWin refuses to properly deal with, but in
general it is an excellent program.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:25:39 -0800
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> You know, my LX would be just so much more useful if I had a
> decent dictonary program for it that would run in DOS. Such a
> thing must have existed at one time, does anyone know where I can
> get one? Bryan

The Collins dictionary from Thaddeus made a believer out of me.  Takes
about 10mb of disk space and has some quirks, but is reasonable
comprehensive (at least from my limited verbal perspective) and has some
useful features, such as giving you a list of words "close" to what you're
looking for (if you don't know the exact spelling), and a thesaurus.

Check at http://www.palmtoppaper.com/Store.htm

although their links to the dictionary looks broken right now.

There are cheaper and smaller dictionaries, but hardly one (for DOS) that's
quite as thorough.

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:50:03 -0800
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Hi everybody,
Lower right part of my 200lx (the corner with +(paste)
button)became loose. It looks like I should have a
screw to tighten and make this corner fixed.
Otherwise, a couple of button do not function.
Anybody knows where is that screw or how to tighten
that corner of palmtop?
Thanks, Bulent

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Date:         Fri, 9 Nov 2001 20:43:11 +0200
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Hi friends,

I have just updated my home page:

The Mobile HPLX page is updated, thanks to Radek Svagr there is now a
very interesting section about Sagem phones (I strongly recommend all
Sagem phone owners to read that!), see phone list.

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx

And the page where I have had the guide to build an IR transmitter
device is updated: No guide anymore, reason explained there, but
instead some useful information about IrDA in general and
palmtop-specific. I wanted to reach the aim of my site to be _the_
general palmtop connectivity site! ;-)

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ir_dev

A few minor updates on other sites. Actually not worth mentioning.

GTX
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Date:         Fri, 9 Nov 2001 20:51:48 +0200
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Hi Bulent

On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:50:03 -0800, Bulent Bicioglu <bulentbicioglu@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> Lower right part of my 200lx (the corner with +(paste)
> button)became loose. It looks like I should have a
> screw to tighten and make this corner fixed.
> Otherwise, a couple of button do not function.
> Anybody knows where is that screw or how to tighten
> that corner of palmtop?

It is a Torx-6 screw under the rubber foot in that corner.
Take a small regular philips screw driver to pull the foot out, then
use a Torx-6 to tighten the screw.

Strange that it gets loose. I hope the case is not broken inside.

GTX
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That's what she said! <insert snare drum/symbol crash here>

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Date:         Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:19:25 -0800
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These are the L91 gold and red Energizer batteries which last
for many many hours in the Palmtop. There were reports of them
lasting anywhere from 35 hours to 71 hours. I just got two new
ones and they lasted for about 56 hours, based on using the
Palmtop for about 8 hours, for 7 days. And they are still
going, although I get anxious at about 2.40V - because the
batteries have a steep drop-off at the end of their lifetime,
where they may drop deom 2.39V to 2.32V in a matter of an
hour (I measured that once, a long time ago!)

My tracking of last week is not a methodical scientific
tracking, just a ballpark figure. YMMV, of course.

The main issue with these batteries is that a pair costs about
$7-9. In some cases less, but I am now unable to find them
where I used to.

Anyone has any comments on service life, safe disposal,
pricing, discharge characteristics, places to find them?

All the best,

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Date:         Sat, 10 Nov 2001 11:48:42 +1300
Reply-To:     Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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I don't think its heresy to talk about migration.  One has to be realistic
about benefits and costs; If people stay on the HP200 it should be because
it provides tangible benefits to the owner that outway the cost of
migration.  But hey if sentimentality spins other people's wheels who am I
to criticise them?

For me the HP200 suits me because

1.  It has a numeric keypad.  This gets used almost every day.  Why lug
around a palmtop that can't be readily used as a simple calculator as well?
Its basic things like this that make for great utility.  The HP Calculator
App has always been very useful because my work is in finance.

2.  The alarms work even if I turn the machine "off".  My bacon has been
saved sooo many times.

3.  The PIMS are surprisingly useful and I have managed work arounds using
Buddy for my contact management needs.  Eg Buddy allows me to type Fn-t over
anybody in my phone book and it appears in my Appt application as "Call Joe
Bloggs ph 11-222-3333".  Its simple but so cool.

4.  At work, I coordinate with colleagues through Outlook and Curtis
Cameron's OL2LX applications keeps me in synch with them.

I don't have a need for Internet communications while on the move.  In New
Zealand there are cybercafes in nearly every town and city now so its more
of a pain (both time and cost-wise) finding a telephone connection then it
is to pay $NZ2 to spend 20min checking if there are any urgent emails.

My 2Mb machine is going on to its 7th year now and its a trusted friend.  I
have a backup 4Mb machine when the 2Mb system finally gives up the ghost.
Its already been refurbished once by Thaddeus and it was back in a week.
Globalisation works for me.

HTH
Tony.

> Date: Sat 10-Nov-2001 04:23
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> From: docliv@BLUERIVER.NET
> Subject: Staying with the 200lx
>
> Hi all, I was wondering if anybody on this list has went over to "the
> other side".  I have been eyeing the new Jornado 568 handheld with
> it's cf slot and strong processor.  The big reason I personally
> haven't went to win ce units was because of the 200lx's database, but
> I understand now that there are database programs for the new
> handhelds.  Does anybody know if the new handhelds running pocket pc
> 2002 win can run any dos programs?  I would be interested to hear of
> anybody that has went from the 200lx to a handheld like the hp 568.
> These are expensive units and it would really be a pain to get one
> and find out that there was something that I used the 200lx for that
> I couldn't do with the handheld.  Please feel free to respond off
> list, I know this runs very close to "heresy".  Thanks in advance for
> any replys.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Nov 2001 22:27:27 -0500
Reply-To:     Tralornik <Tralornik@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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That's interesting....The connectivity pack is one of the few DOS programs
that don't run on the Palmtop....becuase they require EGA or better
resolution..

Probably intentional, so other competing hardware (of the timethat was
limited to CGA) could not run anything similar to thier built-in Apps.

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> No,
> The built in apps need the ROM in the LX to run.  The HP Connectivity
> pack has DOS versions of the programs that will run on EGA (or better)
> displays.  There also exists Win 3.1 versions of APPT, HPCALC and
> ADDRESS BOOK.
>
> HTH,
> Tom
>
>

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Date:         Fri, 9 Nov 2001 22:39:55 -0500
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Does anyone still Maintain the SUPER site?  Looks like most pages haven't
been updated in years.  (Although it is still a GREAT site).

If thier are mantainers and they read this newsgroup, I have a
recommendation.

Since all the email addresses of all the authors of the various pieces of LX
software are on thier site, they should consider an automated mailing asking
that all program authors to submit thier source code for thier programs.

I mean alot of good work was done to make some great programs on the LXs and
most of these authors probably don't have LXs anymore and wouldn't mind
sharing the source at this time (although some might, especially those that
are still active).

The source code would enable those few remaining LX programmers the ability
to enhance and add fresh features to old favorites.

Further along those lines would be an multi-program Open-source project so
that programmers can build on each others enhancements and create custom
versions. (although this would hardly be necessary, just making the source
available would be awesome)

Think about it....Most of the custom software for these machines is years
old and has really no copyright value to the original programmers.  I think
a large number of the authors would be more than willing to donate thier
source to a repository of soem sort.

Of course, the only ones that could put this together would be the SUPER
maintainers, since they have all the emails and could automate and
facilitate the first step of aquiring as much source as possible.

What do you all think?

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Date:         Fri, 9 Nov 2001 19:49:27 -0800
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Good day,

I have seen 2 problems lately with the people that have carried their
200lx machines in their back pocket for 4 years (Corvallis facilities
people). Usually the display is starting to streak and the keyboards
start being intermittant. I was able to improve the displays a little.
The keyboards were not easily repaired. The problem was that the
computers were in their pockets. The cases worked loose and were subject
to frequent shear forces. The plastic alignment pins that keep the
keyboard connector lined up were broken off. Without the alignment pins,
the keyboard connector skews.

If this had not been the problem, cleaning the keyboard connector does
help.

I have not dealt with the T guys, but I recommend their rebuild/repair.

(Thaddius of course)

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Date:         Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:56:43 +0000
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Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:

> Our IT dept. wants to give us new computers with Win2000 OS.
> We still use a clipper program in our daily routine and in the
> tests we had a problem with printing. The program uses its own
> printer driver and sends command characters to the printer to
> initialize, choose print fonts etc. and under Win2000 these command
> characters are not interpreted by the printer but printed.

Do you use the same printers as before?
If not, it could be a printer problem. I remember having seen
cheap plain "Windows" printers. AFAIK they no longer support
ESC sequences, because they only print in graphics mode.

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Date:         Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:04:30 +0100
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Hi list, I came across a couple of pcmcia modem at a local flea market and I
wonder if they work with the HP200: have anybody heard of a:

- TDK DF1414 (14.4 modem)

- Kernel FM144D (28.8 faxmodem)

I searched the web and the HPLX archives but didn't find definitive indication
on wether they are suitable for our palmtop (especially the 150mA threshold
problem...)

Cri

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Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
> Our IT dept. wants to give us new computers
> with Win2000 OS.  We still use a clipper program
> in our daily routine and in the tests we had a
> problem with printing.

Something that occurs to me is to change the Clipper program
(assuming you have the source) to print to either a generic
printer or to a text file.  Then use win2000 to print that.

If the formatting on the Clipper output is just tabs that
shouldn't be any problem.  If it's more complex than that it
probably will be a problem.

I suspect that what is happening is Win2000 is sending to the
printer as graphics and everything is going to the printer as
binary data.  That would explain the 30 second delay, also.

There also might be a setting in Win2000 telling it not to treat
the printout as graphics, assuming that's what is happening.  I
haven't used Win2000 so I don't know.

Barry

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Hi,
I am a Japanese lxer. Now I am studying French at the local college.
I don't know how to type French letters with accents. And do you have
any English-French or French-English dictionary on freeware?
Please let me know about that.
My 200lx(2mb ram with 10mb flash card) is very smart with writing
English, Japanese, and Korean. I use the Korean editor "San".
    Akio HIKITA <chez-aki@comlink.ne.jp>

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Date:         Sat, 10 Nov 2001 17:11:26 +0000
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Bryan,

Collins English dictionary is available from Thaddeus. It works fine on
the palmtop and has features like Thesaurus, Wildcard, and Anagram

Richard

Bryan Biggers wrote:

> You know, my LX would be just so much more useful if I had a
> decent dictonary program for it that would run in DOS. Such a
> thing must have existed at one time, does anyone know where I can
> get one? Bryan
>
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Home Depot used to sell Energizer brand Lithium AA's for under $5.00 for a
2-pack.

They probably still do...

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Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a customer) is selling new San Disk =
220 Flash Disk cards for $50/ea - they have several with buy-it-now =
prices at $50. Do a search on the seller - "ssinc1500".

I bought several items from them, and have always been happy...

Here is a link to the one I bought, click on "View other auctions for =
this seller" to see others... =
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1294724938

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a =
customer) is=20
selling new San Disk 220 Flash Disk cards for $50/ea - they have several =
with=20
buy-it-now prices at $50. Do a search on the seller - =
"ssinc1500".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I bought several items from them, and =
have always=20
been happy...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here is a link to the one I bought, =
click on "View=20
other auctions for this seller" to see others... <A=20
href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=3D1294=
724938">http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=3D1294=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hello Klaus !

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> Hi

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Werner,

> sorry for being off topic, but maybe one of the computer cracks on
> the list knows something about my problem.
> Our IT dept. wants to give us new computers with Win2000 OS.
> We still use a clipper program in our daily routine and in the
> tests we had a problem with printing. The program uses its own
> printer driver and sends command characters to the printer to
> initialize, choose print fonts etc. and under Win2000 these command
> characters are not interpreted by the printer but printed.
> Additionally the printout starts after 20 seconds, not immediately
> like before under Win 98.
> I suspect that the command characters are changed by W2k so the
> printer does not get the characters I send. The commands start with
> ESC, ascii 27 and so on.

I have no idea, I do the same using WordPerfect 5.1 and accounting
programs, all DOS based programs and it works fine using the HP
Laserjet Series II and HP Laserjet 2100.. It doesn't make any
difference if I print locally or in the network.

Kind regards

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Akio Hikita wrote:

> Im a Japanese lxer. Now I am studying French at the local college.
> I don't know how to type French letters with accents. And do you have
> any English-French or French-English dictionary on freeware?

First type Fn-R for a ' ( aigue) accent , then the a or e to get =E1 or =
=E9

Type Fn-T for a ` (grave) accent, then e or a for =E0 or =E8

Fn-Y followed by  a or e gets =E2 and =EA etc. ( circonflex)

Fn-c gets you a c-cedille - =E7 - =E7a va?

And LXdict n super gets you the dictionaries.

Iee, des ne ? ( skoshi Nihongo hanashimasu )


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> These are the L91 gold and red Energizer batteries which last
> for many many hours in the Palmtop.

> The main issue with these batteries is that a pair costs about
> $7-9. In some cases less, but I am now unable to find them
> where I used to.
>
> Anyone has any comments on service life, safe disposal,
> pricing, discharge characteristics, places to find them?

I did a search on google for "L91 lithium energizer" and got some hits.

This site has them for $4.50 a pair:
http://www.zbattery.com/zbattery/l91bp-2.html

This site has them for $2.00 each:
http://www.batterystation.com/lithium.htm

This site has some disposal information:
http://data.energizer.com/batteryinfo/application_manuals/l91.htm

Seems to imply you just dump 'em like any other battery:

Disposal
For small quantities, use the same procedures used for other Eveready and
Energizer consumer products

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> Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a customer) is selling new San Disk
220 Flash
> Disk cards for $50/ea - they have several with buy-it-now prices at $50.
Do a
> search on the seller - "ssinc1500".
>
> I bought several items from them, and have always been happy...
>
> Here is a link to the one I bought, click on "View other auctions for
this
> seller" to see others...
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1294724938

Thanks for the tip Ken.

Glad to see these major price drops in storage lately.   Between digicams,
LX's and Omnibooks, my  cards have been making the rounds as the next
bargain comes up <g>.

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w96 - opera OK?

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Yes...

Still seems to work..

(I assumeyou were looking for a response)


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Anyone know how to speed up the initial access time filer takes to =
access a large CF card ?

It takes like 10 seconds to access the card for the first time (or after =
a power-off)

Would double speed help, and even if it would, is their any thing that =
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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ken Hansen=20
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  Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a customer) is selling new San Disk =
220 Flash Disk cards for $50/ea - they have several with buy-it-now =
prices at $50. Do a search on the seller - "ssinc1500".

  I bought several items from them, and have always been happy...

  Here is a link to the one I bought, click on "View other auctions for =
this seller" to see others... =
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1294724938

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Anyone know how to speed up the initial access time =
filer=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>It takes like 10 seconds to access the card for the =
first time=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Would double speed help, and even if it would, is =
their any=20
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  <A title=3Dn2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET =
href=3D"mailto:n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET">Ken=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 10, =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> low-cost 220 SanDisk =
cards on=20
  eBay</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a =
customer) is=20
  selling new San Disk 220 Flash Disk cards for $50/ea - they have =
several with=20
  buy-it-now prices at $50. Do a search on the seller -=20
"ssinc1500".</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I bought several items from them, and =
have always=20
  been happy...</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here is a link to the one I bought, =
click on=20
  "View other auctions for this seller" to see others... <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=3D1294=
724938">http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=3D1294=
724938</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Thanks Ken.

But I personaly think that overall CF Flash with an adaptor is a much =
better investment long term (unless you REALLY REALLY need 220MB instead =
of 128MB).

Think of all the MP3, Digital Cams, (and even other palmtops !)  that =
take CF cards.

Full size PCMCIA cards are really a thing of the past.

Just my thoughts.

(BTW, isn't there a problem with cards over a certain size with the HP =
palmtops?)

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks Ken.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>But I personaly think that overall CF Flash with an =
adaptor is=20
a much better investment long term (unless you REALLY REALLY need 220MB =
instead=20
of 128MB).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Think of all the MP3, Digital Cams, (and even other =
palmtops=20
!)&nbsp; that take CF cards.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Full size PCMCIA cards are really a thing of the=20
past.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Just my thoughts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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I have turned-off HTML on my mail..

Pleas let me know if this email looks better...

I am including web links to verify that HTML is off.

Test of HTML from :
http://www.palmtop.net/

Aegis Technologies' new IR-HP5 is the perfect hardware companion to the =
Transfile Win200 software. It allows you to transfer files and back up =
your palmtop at 57.6K bps over the palmtop's built-in infrared serial =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have turned-off HTML on my mail..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Pleas let me know if this email looks =
better...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I am including web links to verify that HTML is=20
off.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Test of HTML from :</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.palmtop.net/">http://www.palmtop.net/</A></FONT></DIV>=

<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Aegis Technologies' new IR-HP5 is the =
perfect=20
hardware companion to the </FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://www.palmtop.net/transfile.html"><FONT face=3DVerdana =
size=3D2>Transfile=20
Win200</FONT></A><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2> software. It allows you =
to transfer=20
files and back up your palmtop at 57.6K bps over the palmtop's built-in =
infrared=20
serial port. See </FONT><A =
href=3D"http://www.palmtop.net/ir-hp5.html"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana size=3D2>this page</FONT></A><FONT face=3DVerdana =
size=3D2> for more=20
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Hi

I've (probably?) the same infos here in w95-opera
as in linux-netscape. I can do my mail in both, but
posting in the hplx-group isn't possible from
linux-netscape.

Has someone a hint?

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Hi

After some time I had to load up the batteries - a lot of
hours. Then after a time I couldn't it switch on. I removed
all 3 batteries, waited a day put in fresh ones: the same
behavior:
When I press <ctr>+<shi>+<on> I can here a click and
by releasing a second. Are there destroyed some circuit
by too long loading? My other 200lx didn't crash.

Any hint? TiA.

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Date:         Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:51:29 -0500
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On Wed,  7 Nov 2001 19:59:07 -0800, Avi Meshar wrote:

> I have a 512MB card in the Palmtop for about 1 year now. I
> still have 88MB available.

I have a 100mb card with about 70mb free. I think I have what I need on
it. I use it mainly for backup. I am sure that I will use more of the
card when I get the Hplx upgraded to 32mb. The backups will use more
space. But what do I need?

I am sure that I could manage to fill a 1Gb card too if I really tried
:-)

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:51:40 -0500
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On Fri,  9 Nov 2001 00:35:23 +0100, Jacques Belin wrote:

> Le Thu, 8 Nov 2001 01:48:25 -0500
> Tralornik <Tralornik@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> a icrit:
>
> > Interestin Handheld Chronology
> >
> > http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/handheld/index.htm
>
> Missing (for example...) :
>
> - 1979 : HP-41 (fisrt alpha-numeric programmable calculator)

I had a Hp-33E which was also a programmable calculator. I remember
playing "moonlanding" on it. It was back in..can not
remember..bloodsugar very low :-)

It was a long time ago.

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Date:         Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:56:58 -0500
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I have a slightly used Megahertz PCMCIA 28.8 fax/modem card I'm not
positive but I think I can locate the cable for it. Otherwise they are
obtainable. I am not sure what the current value is so I am asking for
offers on this.

I also have an internal PCMCIA card reader/writer for a PC that works
with 1 type III or  2 type II cards It us new in the original box I am
asking $150 for it.

Get back to me if there is interest on either of these items  Thank you
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Date:         Sat, 10 Nov 2001 21:57:19 +0100
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Avi,

> going, although I get anxious at about 2.40V - because the
> batteries have a steep drop-off at the end of their lifetime,
> where they may drop deom 2.39V to 2.32V in a matter of an
> hour (I measured that once, a long time ago!)

I use NiMHydrid batteries from Thaddeus. Their peak level is around
2.75 V and I run them frequently down to 2.1 - 2.2 Volt's.

You must not be paranoid and you have to save your work frequently when
you do this though :)

2.4 should be a safe area in any case.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Le Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:51:40 -0500
Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL=2ECOM> a =E9crit:

> I had a Hp-33E which was also a programmable calculator=2E=20

At this time, I had an HP31=2E Next year, I bought an HP34C=2E=2E

> I remember playing "moonlanding" on it=2E=20

I remember _programing_ "moonlanding" on it=2E  ;-)

> It was a long time ago=2E
=20
A time when the ratio programers/users was much higher=2E=2E=2E

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Date:         Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:22:57 +1300
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It is unlimited period shareware.

On the Fn-t shortcut:  Buddy uses a smartclip to do the job.  You can get it
to select the one you want by putting a ">" character as the first character
in the title of the required smartclip.  I use the one called "name and
business phone".

On the registration:  Once you get into it you'll find out how useful buddy
really is.  There is a feature called Smartcaps that allows you to double
click characters to automatically capitalise them.  I use the world map a
lot because I'm dealing with people in on the other side of the world.  I
would recommend that once you find you really like it and decide to use it
long term I think the right thing to do is to pay him.  Sure $40 seems steep
now but once you've got a feel for the utility it provides... A programmer
should get some compensation for his/her ingenuity, hard work, yes
programming is real work...

Registration also gets you the manual which is real helpful at the start
because there are just so many quick key combinations to access its rich
feature set.

HTH
Tony.

> Date: Sun 11-Nov-2001 09:37
> To: tony.kan@clear.net.nz
> From: bob@palmtop.com
> Subject: RE: Staying with the 200lx
>
> Hi Tony, I am just now getting around to testing out Buddy. I've had
> my 200LX DS 8mb units for years now and run many DOS apps on them.
> Your msg peaked my interest in Buddy:
> >The PIMS are surprisingly useful and I have managed work
> >arounds using Buddy for my contact management needs.  Eg Buddy
> >allows me to type Fn-t over anybody in my phone book and it
> >appears in my Appt application as "Call Joe Bloggs ph
> >222-3333". Its simple but so cool.
>
> - How did you set up the Fn-T paste from Phone to Appts? - What other
> shortcut "tricks" are common to Buddy users? - Is Buddy still
> shareware or is there a freeware bypass to the registration? $40 is a
> bit steep for me.
>
> Thanks, Bob Christopher     Littleton, Colorado USA
> bob@palmtop.com
>
>

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Date:         Sat, 10 Nov 2001 12:44:56 -0800
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I just looked today by coincidence. No batteries like this. "We never carry
them!" Hmmm... I was in a Los Angeles store. And where is your store?

At 11/10/01 -0500, Tralornik wrote:
>Home Depot used to sell Energizer brand Lithium AA's for under $5.00 for a
>2-pack.
>
>They probably still do...

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At 11/10/01 +0100, you wrote:
>I use NiMHydrid batteries from Thaddeus. Their peak level is around
>2.75 V and I run them frequently down to 2.1 - 2.2 Volt's.

Too dangerous. Sorry, I think this not good advise, Hans-Peter. We'll have
a bunch of people losing data now because they push batteries waaay too low.

>You must not be paranoid and you have to save your work frequently when
>you do this though :)

It is not paranoia, that is reserved for those people who constantly follow
me <VBG>. In the case of low batteries, it is anxiety, as I wrote. I am
simply uninterested in losing data, and the exciting life one leads chasing
old data to restore etc. I'd rather get my excitement in other ways.

Thanks for the advice to save, frequently, but you forget my middle name
"Avi BACKUP Meshar"! It is like preaching to the priest <g>

But in any case, I am highly aware of NiMH (and even have several hundreds
for sale, BTW!) and NiCd and alkaline and so on. But I really posted to get
feedback on Lithium batteries usage, not NiMH, and not backups.

So what can you tell me about Lithium batteries usage?

>2.4 should be a safe area in any case.

When you enter it, yes, when you are in it over an hour of writing to
PCMCIA - DEFINITELY NOT SAFE! That is ESPECIALLY true for Lithiums. From
this comment I surmise you really do not use Lithiums and do not know their
characteristics, is this a fair assumption?

Avi

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Date:         Sat, 10 Nov 2001 16:43:41 -0500
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Sounds  like a typical Home Depot employee to me... (Sorry, but my personal
experience with *most* Home Depot employees is that they are less than
helpful...perhaps that is just my local store though...) ...  They never
heard of something in a store with about a million products, so it must not
exist. (yeah, right)

Someone posted that Home Deport no longer carries them (but I assure you
they used to), but I am sure you can get them pretty cheap on the web,
except of course for shipping.


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> I just looked today by coincidence. No batteries like this. "We never
carry
> them!" Hmmm... I was in a Los Angeles store. And where is your store?
>
> At 11/10/01 -0500, Tralornik wrote:
> >Home Depot used to sell Energizer brand Lithium AA's for under $5.00 for
a
> >2-pack.
> >
> >They probably still do...
>
>

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Date:         Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:26:16 -0800
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> But I personaly think that overall CF Flash with an adaptor is a much
better
> investment long term (unless you REALLY REALLY need 220MB instead of
128MB).

Unless you have enough discretionary cash that $50 is more "impulse" than
"investment".

> Think of all the MP3, Digital Cams, (and even other palmtops !)  that
take CF
> cards.
>
> Full size PCMCIA cards are really a thing of the past.

So is LX, so it's a match made in heaven.

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> Anyone know how to speed up the initial access time filer takes to access
a
> large CF card ?
>
> It takes like 10 seconds to access the card for the first time (or after
a
> power-off)
>
> Would double speed help, and even if it would, is their any thing that
would
> help?

One thing to try (if you're inclined to experiment and generally know what
you're doing in DOS) is use the DOS SUBST command (not included on the ROM
so you'll have to get it from a desktop or some full DOS install, version
5.0 or later) and add some lines to the a:\autoexec.bat, near the end:

subst e: a:\
c:
subst a: c:\
200

What this does is makes the card accessible from the e: drive letter and
the a: letter is mapped to c:  So when filer starts up, you essentially get
two c: drive screens.  By changing the subst mapping on the autoexec, you
can probably come up with some arrangement that's more useful.

Note that I played with this and it seems to work, but I don't do this on a
daily basis ... maybe I will after I get my 220mb Sandisk <g>.  Try it at
your own risk!!

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Date:         Sat, 10 Nov 2001 18:53:22 -0500
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> lasting anywhere from 35 hours to 71 hours. I just got two new
> ones and they lasted for about 56 hours, based on using the
> Palmtop for about 8 hours, for 7 days. And they are still

My best is 68 hours with a set of Lithium batteries.  This was in a =
single
speed 100LX.  It had a flash card, but I only read from it.  Writing to =
Flash
cards uses more power.  I also didn't do any modem work.  I timed my =
usage with
Buddy, so I think it is pretty accurate since I stayed inside System =
Manager
the whole time.

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Date:         Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:48:40 +1300
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Fn-T:  There is a smart clip already in your phone app.  Just edit it's
title by putting a ">" character in front of the clip you want transferred
to your to-do list.  Voila.  I use the name and business phone clip because
if I use just the name I still have to look up the phone number.

There is a companion Fn-P where you can highlight a name in Memo and on
pressing Fn-P, it switches to the phone app and looks up the name for you.

OL2LX:  Yup it did create duplications but I have a program called Zoot that
I also synchronise with.  It is able to remove the duplications in Outlook
because that is one of its features.  Zoots a lot like Lotus Agenda but I
gave up on LA because I lost my alarms and it was too slow once the database
got above 200k or so.

Sony Clie:  Don't you find it a hassle carrying around two PDAs?  I find one
big enough.  Boy its hard to find an inside suit jacket pocket that can take
a HP200LX and its leather (yes, genuine leather) case.  I'd be interested in
reading a review with a particular slant toward comparing it with the
HP200LX.  I wonder if the other list members would be interested too.
Hopefully it won't be too off-topic for some(!).

HTH
Tony.

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From: Tim mailto:palmtop@n-link.com
Sent: Sunday, 11 November 2001 10:25 a.m.
To: 'Tony Kan'
Subject: RE: Staying with the 200lx


Hi there,

Saw your message on the HPLX forum and had a question.

re:
>... Buddy allows me to type Fn-t over
>anybody in my phone book and it appears in
>my Appt application as "Call Joe Bloggs....

How do you set Buddy up to do that?!?!?

It's amazing what Buddy can do .... each day, I trip over a new feature or
see someone mention something else Buddy can do for them.... (I'm a
registered Buddy user; so no features are disabled, just didn't see that
one).

Also, do you have much trouble w/ Curtis Cameron's OL2LX applications
causing duplication? I did an Outlook Address Book export and it worked fine
w/ the 200LX; then tried to send it back to Outlook (after modifying one
phone entry) and got DOUBLE the number of entries in Outlook!!! I think I
synched w/ my palm and used a palm utility to delete the duplications; then
made the palm "win" the next synch, to fix the problem. Do you export and/or
synch ToDo, Address Book items AND calendar events (and how well does it
work)?

As you can see, I'm a "dual PDA sorta guy" (have a Sony Clie to augment my
LX now). Still have many uses for the LX that Palms can't do well (like
memos, KB intensive ops and spreadsheets ... even though I DO send Excel
sheets to my Palm w/ a great program called "TinySheet").

Anyway, TIA for any help and advice.

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Avi Meshar wrote:
> These are the L91 gold and red Energizer batteries which last

Energizer Lithium's are now a blue color so any red ones are
left over stock.

I use to use lithiums but switched back to the much cheaper
discount alkylines.  They last almost as long at MUCH lower
price ($0.25 - $.0.50USD).  Lithiums biggest advantage is the
ability to deliver high current without a noticable voltage
drop, this is why they are usually sold for photo use.  My
online use usually has an external modem and an ac supply so I
don't have a need for lithiums advantage.

Another advantage of using cheaper batteries is I can change
them out before the low warning without feeling I'm wasting
money.

I dispose of all my batteries at my company's recycling site.

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> 3.  The PIMS are surprisingly useful and I have managed work arounds using
> Buddy for my contact management needs.  Eg Buddy allows me to type Fn-t over
> anybody in my phone book and it appears in my Appt application as "Call Joe
> Bloggs ph 11-222-3333".  Its simple but so cool.


I had to check you out on that Fn-t since I use Fn-a!  Seems Fn-t opens
a todo which I never use while Fn-a opens the appointment.

The reason I had to check is that I'm the one who got Jeff Mattox to put
that "macro" into Buddy.  I had setup a macro of my own and decided
Buddy would do it better and save a macro for something else.  It took a
bit to convince Jeff as he was always reluctant to add stuff! (G)

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> Home Depot used to sell Energizer brand Lithium AA's for under $5.00 for a
> 2-pack.
>
> They probably still do...

They stopped selling them in the Seattle area - apparently, they can be
processed in some fashion to create Methamphetamine!!!!!!!!!

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> I have turned-off HTML on my mail..
>

Something is still creating an attachment - actually, multiple according
to Post/lx (when I replied)
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> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> <HTML><HEAD>
> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4807.2300" name=GENERATOR>
> <STYLE></STYLE>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2>I have turned-off HTML on my mail..</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2>Pleas let me know if this email looks better...</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2>I am including web links to verify that HTML is
> off.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2>Test of HTML from :</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2><A
> href="http://www.palmtop.net/">http://www.palmtop.net/</A></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Aegis Technologies' new IR-HP5 is the perfect
> hardware companion to the </FONT><A
> href="http://www.palmtop.net/transfile.html"><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Transfile
> Win200</FONT></A><FONT face=Verdana size=2> software. It allows you to transfer
> files and back up your palmtop at 57.6K bps over the palmtop's built-in infrared
> serial port. See </FONT><A href="http://www.palmtop.net/ir-hp5.html"><FONT
> face=Verdana size=2>this page</FONT></A><FONT face=Verdana size=2> for more
> information. </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Date:         Sun, 11 Nov 2001 03:09:28 +0000
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> Anyone has any comments on service life, safe disposal,
> pricing, discharge characteristics, places to find them?

I use them till I get the normal low battery warning from the HP,
including on modem connections altho, that does get hair-raising as the
bytes keep ticking on by or message numbers keep climbing and the HP
beeps it low warning - so far, no data loss.  (fingers crossed)

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From: "Ed Padin" <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>


> That's what she said! <insert snare drum/symbol crash here>

Did you mean cymbal crash, or expensive pda hitting the pavement?  :-)
Sorry, couldn't resist.

Domingo

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Date:         Sat, 10 Nov 2001 23:50:04 -0500
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ICYI, the connectivy pack DOES run on the Palmtop.   Search the archives.
It requires either modification or elimination of a file (don't recall
which).

Domingo

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From: "Tralornik" <Tralornik@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>


> That's interesting....The connectivity pack is one of the few DOS programs
> that don't run on the Palmtop....becuase they require EGA or better
> resolution..
>
> Probably intentional, so other competing hardware (of the timethat was
> limited to CGA) could not run anything similar to thier built-in Apps.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "th" <tom.hornberger@VERIZON.NET>
>
> > No,
> > The built in apps need the ROM in the LX to run.  The HP Connectivity
> > pack has DOS versions of the programs that will run on EGA (or better)
> > displays.  There also exists Win 3.1 versions of APPT, HPCALC and
> > ADDRESS BOOK.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Tom

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Date:         Sat, 10 Nov 2001 22:56:47 -0800
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Now I am confused !

So then why wouldn't the connectivity pack run on a
CGA DOS machine, since the palmtp is CGA as well?

--- Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK> wrote:
> ICYI, the connectivy pack DOES run on the Palmtop.
> Search the archives.
> It requires either modification or elimination of a
> file (don't recall
> which).
>
> Domingo
>


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From:         Patrick West <francis_patrick_west@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 22:56:47 -0800, Questor Jones wrote:
>Now I am confused !
>
>So then why wouldn't the connectivity pack run on a CGA DOS=
 machine,
>since the palmtp is CGA as well?
>
>--- Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>=A0wrote:
>>=A0ICYI, the connectivy pack DOES run on the Palmtop.
>>=A0Search the archives.
>>=A0It requires either modification or elimination of a =A0file=
 (don't
>>recall =A0which).

Here is the bat file that starts cpack, I believe all that one=
 has to do is rem out the file cg.comu
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
@ECHO OFF
un200.exe -V1

IF errorlevel 12 GOTO EL12
IF errorlevel 11 GOTO EL11
IF errorlevel  9 GOTO EL9
IF errorlevel  8 GOTO EL8
IF errorlevel  4 GOTO EL4
IF errorlevel  1 GOTO EL1
IF errorlevel  0 GOTO EL0

:EL4
IF "%1"=3D=3D"" GOTO PARMNO
IF "%2"=3D=3D"" GOTO PARMONE

tkernel.exe %1=3D%2
GOTO RUNCG

:PARMONE
tkernel.exe %1
GOTO RUNCG

:PARMNO
tkernel.exe

:RUNCG
cg.com /Q
launcher.com
cg.com /Q
un200.exe -C

IF errorlevel 12 GOTO EL12
IF errorlevel 9  GOTO EL9
IF errorlevel 8  GOTO EL8
IF errorlevel 4  GOTO EL4A
IF errorlevel 1  GOTO EL1A
IF errorlevel 0  GOTO EL0A

CLS
GOTO END

:EL12
ECHO APP200: Another program has occupied INT 7EH or 7FH. =
 Please
ECHO         remove it and try again.
GOTO END

:EL11
ECHO APP200: Insufficient Memory
GOTO END

:EL9
ECHO APP200: Invalid option specified
GOTO END

:EL8
ECHO APP200: Only one option is allowed (-c or -v)
GOTO END

:EL1
:EL0
ECHO APP200: CPACK200 TSR is already loaded. APP200 can not be=
 run.
ECHO         Try typing EXIT to return to APP200.
GOTO END

:EL4A
ECHO APP200: CPACK200 TSR was not loaded. A serious error has=
 occurred.
GOTO END

:EL1A
ECHO APP200: CPACK200 TSR was not unloaded. A serious error has=
 occurred.
GOTO END

:EL0A
:END

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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Date:         Sun, 11 Nov 2001 08:27:38 +0100
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hello G=FCnther, Stefan and Barry,

I answer to you in one reply.

G=FCnther's answer is encouraging, because I do not think there is much
difference how WP or my clipper program print. G=FCnther, do you know
if there is something in W2K like in W98, where you are asked if you
want Dos programs to print on this printer? Did you choose any
special setting?

To Barry: I have the sources of the clipper program and I could
change it. The printer commands sent to the printers are very simple,
it is a reset, choosing draft font, line feeds, form feeds.
No graphic formatting.

To Stefan: we use the same printers than before. We have different
printers in use, from old Epson needle printers to HP Laserjets
all work fine in a W95 / W98 OS. They work as well in the network and
locally connected to the PC.

Thank you for the input so far.

cheers,
Werner

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Hi!

If I post from linux-netscape:
---------------------0000000000000000
The following message seems to vanish; I got no
error reply and can't see it in the group and therefore
no answers:

If I post from w96-opera all is OK:



HERE is the message postet from linux-netscape:

<-------------  snip --------------->
From - Sun Nov 11 08:26:02 2001
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
Message-ID: <3BEE2809.9AD8AD50@TU-Berlin.DE>
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 08:26:01 +0100
From: Klaus Reinhardt <K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE>
Reply-To: K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE
Organization: RDT
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 de (X11; U; Linux 2.4.7 i586)
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still no success
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Avi Meshar wrote:
>
> At 11/10/01 +0100, you wrote:
> >I use NiMHydrid batteries from Thaddeus. Their peak level is around
> >2.75 V and I run them frequently down to 2.1 - 2.2 Volt's.
>
> Too dangerous. Sorry, I think this not good advise, Hans-Peter. We'll =
have
> a bunch of people losing data now because they push batteries waaay too =
low.

No mention of an advice to anybody - just factual reporting of what I
do. I do it frequently (but not purposefully) when sitting in a plane
with batteries running empty. I never lost data so far but I'm aware
that I'm gambling here.

> So what can you tell me about Lithium batteries usage?

Nothing regarding usage in the LX. Yesterday I got a warning that the
LI battery pack on my Compaq Armada is dead though ;-)

> >2.4 should be a safe area in any case.
>
> When you enter it, yes, when you are in it over an hour of writing to
> PCMCIA - DEFINITELY NOT SAFE! That is ESPECIALLY true for Lithiums. =
From
> this comment I surmise you really do not use Lithiums and do not know =
their
> characteristics, is this a fair assumption?

Your assumption is correct - still I'm sure at 2.4 V there is no need
to panick if you do "standard" work on your LX.
You will always be able to construct a case where your advice is
dangerous. E.g. I would not want to start an online run (downloading a
large file) with Lithiums showing 2.7 V

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Mon, 12 Nov 2001 00:03:18 +1300
Reply-To:     Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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Glad you did because its one of the most useful key combinations I use.
Cheers
Tony.

> Date: Sun 11-Nov-2001 16:09
> To: tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ; HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> From: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net
> Subject: RE: Staying with the 200lx
> > 3.  The PIMS are surprisingly useful and I have managed work arounds
> using
> > Buddy for my contact management needs.  Eg Buddy allows me
> to type Fn-t over
> > anybody in my phone book and it appears in my Appt application as
> "Call Joe
> > Bloggs ph 11-222-3333".  Its simple but so cool.
>
> I had to check you out on that Fn-t since I use Fn-a!  Seems Fn-t
> opens a todo which I never use while Fn-a opens the appointment.
>
> The reason I had to check is that I'm the one who got Jeff Mattox to
> put that "macro" into Buddy.  I had setup a macro of my own and
> decided Buddy would do it better and save a macro for something else.
>  It took a bit to convince Jeff as he was always reluctant to add
> stuff! (G)
>
>

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Date:         Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:25:37 +0000
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After all the questions and information about offers of CF
cards let me quote my own message from earlier this year:

> Sandisk informed the OEM customers about end of life for the
>
> Type I:  48, 96, 160
> Type II: 256, 300
>
> MB CF cards. The above products are being replaced by new
> capacities as part of the transition to NAND memory. The new
> capacities are:
>
> Type I: 64, 128, 192, 256, 384, 512

That means: From the size of the card you may tell, if you buy
an old or a new card. I don't know if there is any difference
of these cards concerning the use in a palmtop. Most likely the
new cards should use less "juice".

I wouldn't be surprised to see the old cards falling in price.
My attention goes towards either an old 160MB or a new 192MB.

Higher capacities (>220MB) need AFAIK a driver to work in the
palmtop. Something I don't want to relay on, because I want to
be able to boot my system from CF card after complete crashs.

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Folks,

Before my 200lx died I ran Procomm Plus 2.01 on it with a pcmcia=
 xjack 14.4 modem.

These days I am using a 100lx (still haven't completed switching=
 the screen from the other 100lx to the 200lx)

So I copied my files over to the pcmcia card and plan to run a=
 optima 14.4 external modem.  I ran a stripped down
version of Procomm to save space.

I have the following files

PCPLUS.DIR
PCPLUS.EXE
PCPLUS.FON
PCPLUS.HLP
PCPLUS.ICN
PCPLUS.KBD
PCPLUS.KEY
PCPLUS.PRM
PCPLUS.XLT


I dug out my old 5.25 inch disks booted up my microsolutions=
 parallel port 5.25 inch drive, attached to a p133 win98 laptop.

Program wouldn't install, got a program too big to fit in memory=
 error. Figgured it was the floppy disk drivers so I copied the
files and tried in a true dos boot off 3.5 floppies made from the=
 5.25 disks.

Same error.

Any suggestions?


Patrick

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On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 11:48:42AM +1300, Tony Kan wrote:
> I don't think its heresy to talk about migration.

Hear hear.  My 200LX screen's turned an icky shade of green
and bubbled up something nasty, and it's always been somewhat
cumbersome to juggle with a cellphone, so I went looking for
a potential replacement (destroyed my Palm IIIx a second time
by reversing the batteries).

To my surprise, I fell in love with the Nokia 9210 (aka
9290 in North America).  GSM data rates here in Singapore
are similar to Tony's provider, but I've actually found it
pretty useful for short emails on the go.

EPOC Word and Sheet are decent MS Word & Excel companions,
good enough to bang out faxes (also sent wirelessly) and
quick projections.  The keyboard works for me, and the backlit
color screen (roughly same rez as the LX) is easy on the eyes.

But now that I've found my new love, I still can't bear
to part with the LX.  Kinda like a high-school sweetheart,
I guess.  8-)

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Tralornik wrote:

> Anyone know how to speed up the initial access time
> filer takes to access a large CF card ?

The reason why it takes so long is the
DOS function 0x36: get free disk space.

Because Filer, List, CHKDSK, DIR etc. use this function,
it takes so long for the first time after a power on of
the card. The card by itself is immediately available.

Try it: Exit to plain DOS and go to the A: drive.
Switch the power off and on again. Then call any program
located on A: which does not check for the free disk space.
It starts up with no delay at all.

To prove my assertion, I allow myself to attach the 78 bytes
test program FREE.COM to this email which I just wrote.
(I know, no attachments allowed here). FREE.COM checks the
free disk space and outputs it in hex. It gives you a good
feeling on how long your card needs to offer this information.

You may indeed use it to check if a large card which you want
to buy has a delay in an acceptable range.

Stefan
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I forgot to explain, why the delay only occurs the first time
after power on: Because the DOS function "get free disk space"
saves and updates this information in a DOS buffer. As long as
no "media change" event occurs, there is no need to get this
information again from the card.

But because a PCMCIA card is a removable media, it may have
changed between a power off and power on event. Hence DOS must
get the information again from the card after a power on.

This leads to a possible solution of the problem: If you tell
DOS, that your A: drive is not removable, it never needs again
to get the information from the card. I don't know, how to tell
DOS, what kind of media is assigned to a drive. And it would be
*VERY* dangerous to change the setting, because changing the
card accidently would write the old directory information to
the new card, thereby destroying the content of the new card!

DOS archeologists remember this happening with floppy disks
in the early 80th. Changing a floppy without letting DOS know
about the media change usually ended in a desaster.

It is therefore absolutely recommended, to change cards only
during power off. You may be lucky if you forgot to power off
and insert the same card again. But if you wrote to the card
in the meantime (on your desktop) you can imagine what could
happen...

Stefan

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From:         knerml <knerml@NEO.RR.COM>
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From what I've seen in new PocketPC 2002 devices going into production early
next year, the use of CF card slots is going away, from a storage
standpoint.

CF card slots are now being used for plug-in wireless devices (cell
phones/modems, wireless LAN and GPS).  SD/MMC card slots are now being used
for storage, because they take up less than 1/2 the space of CF cards on the
boards.

A couple of years from now, CF cards will probably be in the same boat as
full PCMCIA cards today.

BTW, anyone considering buying a PocketPC 2002 PDA should consider waiting
until mid 2002:

  - New XScale devices will be coming out by then with
    twice the performance of current StrongARM devices

  - New media chips are coming out with much higher MP3
    and video performance

  - Current PocketPC 2002 StrongARM devices will probably be discounted

Also, Bluetooth devices should be coming out mid 2002.

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Date:         Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:59:39 +0100
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Hello List,

I created a database containing German providers which have standard phone
numbers. That means that you can dial-in esp. through mobile phone (most
providers don't work via mobile, as they have special numbers) or from the
hotel (for the hotel phone software the numbers are just 'plain' phone
numbers, billed as local or long-distance calls). If you live in Germany
and have a 'XXL' subscription with Telekom, you can even surf for free on
Sundays with these numbers. Note that the Arcor numbers do not work with
mobile phones, as they have a special routing of their numbers.

You can download the database at

http://www.guenther-eisele.de/ortstarif/

I'm currently figuring out if the listed providers also have SMTP servers
which work through these standard numbers. I remember some testing where
that didn't work. In the next update I will add the SMTP servers, if they
work.

I don't know how common SMTP AUTH is for you guys in this list. I even
don't know if the current version of post/lx finally supports this
important feature (my 2.2g version doesn't). This is of course the easiest
solution to the SMTP problem...

Bye
G=FCnther

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Date:         Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:28:42 +0100
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Werner,

> G=FCnther's answer is encouraging, because I do not think there is much
> difference how WP or my clipper program print. G=FCnther, do you know
> if there is something in W2K like in W98, where you are asked if you
> want Dos programs to print on this printer? Did you choose any
> special setting?

Not that I know of and no question regardingDOS programs.


Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:39:06 -0500
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Are you saying Free.com saolves the problem, or just verifies it's
existance?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Peichl" <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: CF card startup.


Tralornik wrote:

> Anyone know how to speed up the initial access time
> filer takes to access a large CF card ?

The reason why it takes so long is the
DOS function 0x36: get free disk space.

Because Filer, List, CHKDSK, DIR etc. use this function,
it takes so long for the first time after a power on of
the card. The card by itself is immediately available.

Try it: Exit to plain DOS and go to the A: drive.
Switch the power off and on again. Then call any program
located on A: which does not check for the free disk space.
It starts up with no delay at all.

To prove my assertion, I allow myself to attach the 78 bytes
test program FREE.COM to this email which I just wrote.
(I know, no attachments allowed here). FREE.COM checks the
free disk space and outputs it in hex. It gives you a good
feeling on how long your card needs to offer this information.

You may indeed use it to check if a large card which you want
to buy has a delay in an acceptable range.

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The processor.   Minimun required is 8186.   Most DOS CGA machines use a
8086 or 8088.   Same problem for Freepad.   I share in your disappointment,
as I still have two such machines.

Domingo

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> So then why wouldn't the connectivity pack run on a
> CGA DOS machine, since the palmtp is CGA as well?
>
> --- Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK> wrote:
> > ICYI, the connectivy pack DOES run on the Palmtop.
> > Search the archives.
> > It requires either modification or elimination of a
> > file (don't recall
> > which).
> >
> > Domingo

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Tralornik wrote:

> Are you saying Free.com saolves the problem, or just verifies it's
> existance?

It verifies it's existence, but once it ran after a power on,
all other programs like Filer, DIR etc. start faster, because
FREE.COM already issued DOS Fkt 0x36.

q.e.d. (as we mathematicians say)

This is indeed no solution, the problem has only shifted from
Filer to FREE.COM

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Subject:      Re: CF card startup. (1)
Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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> > Anyone know how to speed up the initial access time
> > filer takes to access a large CF card ?
>
> The reason why it takes so long is the
> DOS function 0x36: get free disk space.
>
> Because Filer, List, CHKDSK, DIR etc. use this function,
> it takes so long for the first time after a power on of
> the card. The card by itself is immediately available.
>
> Try it: Exit to plain DOS and go to the A: drive.
> Switch the power off and on again. Then call any program
> located on A: which does not check for the free disk space.
> It starts up with no delay at all.
>
> To prove my assertion, I allow myself to attach the 78 bytes
> test program FREE.COM to this email which I just wrote.
> (I know, no attachments allowed here). FREE.COM checks the
> free disk space and outputs it in hex. It gives you a good
> feeling on how long your card needs to offer this information.

(...)

I got rejected again. So I'll have to split the post ...

-----

Yes, I agree with Stefan because I've ``disabled'' the very
DOS service 36h on my Sandisk CF128, so that I can get immediate
response without delay. With ``disabling'' I mean intercepting
this DOS service to return (IRET) without doing anything. In this
case, the programs that call this service will report an undefined
value of free disk space (usually 0 bytes free). Examples of the
programs that call this DOS service are: list.com,
command.com:dir, setup.com (1000CX), df, chkdsk, ...

The implementation is a general purpose TSR: ic.com (3560 bytes)
that is written to intercept ANY interrupt and respond with some
user-specifiable actions upon activation of the interrupt such
as ``speaker-click'' or a screen-flash, so that one can observe the
activity of this interrupt service.  I thus have a line in my
autoexec.bat:

     a:\bin\mein\ic.com 21 ah=36 /t

with the option /t meaning ``trapping'' with IRET.

IntClick v0.7a Nan-shan Chen C20010619
Listen to Interrupts Signaled as Click-Sound
usage: ic hh AH=hh AL=hh DH=hh DL=hh
(all hh's are 8-bit numbers in hexadecimal)

  /s: silent; don't generate click-sound
  /f: flip the display color (HPLX only)
  /a: generate an alarm interrupt Int4Ah
  /e: send EOI (end of interrupt) to 8259
  /t: trap interrupt by IRET (don't chain)
  /n: set AL=1 before chaining (if not /t)
  /2: use the id "XY" for a second copy
  /3: use the id "XZ" for a third copy

I can send to anyone interested in it. But first of all,
I'll have to explain a bit more. The TSR is *general purpose*
and is thus dangerous. No one should try it without knowing
exactly what he is doing. No one without sufficient knowledge
about DOS and HPLX palmtops should try it without consultance
by anyone knowing DOS-details. That being said, this TSR can
of course be used to disable also those messages on HPLX such
as

   BACKUP BATTERY LOW
   CARD BATTERY LOW
   ...

or to catch e.g. the hardware "NOAC" signal, and so on. The
TSR is unloadable and switchable. The default of this program
if called without argument is to respond every keyboard iunterrupt
with a click. (Similar to some program called ``click''). But,
nota bene, one could also *misuse* this program to disable the
whole keyboard!

(to be continues)

Rudi

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Back to DOS service 36h, we should ask:

  1. if it is safe to disable this DOS service,
  2. if it completely solves the problem.

The answer to 1. is: I don't know. The fact is, however, I have
been using it since I got my sandisk CF128 and have written the program
*constantly* without any problem (read/write access to the disk).
I cannot wait
so long every time the palmtop
wakes up from deep sleep (power on). After powering on and after
the first time this DOS service is called, I've observed that
the ``free disk space'' information is saved somewhere, so that
a second call to this function returns immediately with correct
value. By putting the palmtop into deep sleep (power off), this
information gets lost, so that the next call to this function
will require scanning through the whole FAT (file alllocation
table) again. Please note that I don't think this is flash-card-specific,
but it happens on my laptop too and it should be general to all
DOS machines. You may like to try on any PC with a big disk by
typing DIR. For the first time after reboot, a DIR would casue
a delay while on the second time, the command DIR returns
immediately. The delay occurs at the moment when the DIR-command
is displaying the last line

     xxxx bytes free

The delay simply becomes significant due to the
lower speed of the palmtop, that's all. Please note also that
I'm using the CF128 *very intensively* and it is almost full now.
Disabling the DOS service seems to be safe *so far*. It must be
safe because I backup my thesis on this flash. In order to know,
if it is safe, we would need to know how the programmers are
using this service. So, I've put a question on Usenet asking the
programmers how they are uing the service. But I got no response
from them.

The answer to 2. is: No.  If we want to write to the flash,
we'll still need to find free allocatin units. So, upon writing
to the flash, all programs I'm using do not seem to use the
result of DOS service 36h to decide if there is enough disk
space for the write-access to the disk, but they just open a
file for write-access, and if there is not enough space, this
fwrite() function will return a error message which seems to be
independent of the DOS service 36h. A complete solution to this
problem would be to rewrite the DOS service 36h, which compputes
and update this information *in background*. By *in background*
I mean, this service should then be driven by the
DOS-heart-beats, InDOS and critical error flags, as well as the
Dos Idle interrupt. But I cannot afford to start the project
myself.  However, I'm confident that this is feasible, because I
have been using a TSR (isr4a.com) to service the interrupt 4Ah
(alarm) and plays either a melody or the current time in Morse
code totally *in background*, where ``in background'' means if
I'm charging the palmtop and pull out the AC-adapter, the
playing of the Morse signal will not be distyrbed by the message
``BETTERY CHARGING STOPPED'', or, the playing will not disturb
the interlnk/intersvr transfer at all.  Thus, I would say, there
are enough ``time-gaps'' for us to steal even on our
single-speed palmtops. In fact, the above TSR (isr4a.com) not
only plays melody or Morse codes, but it also has enough time to
acomplish a bunch a task, like displaying the time on a corner
of the screen and sending the current time to the wired/IR
serial port simultaneousely.  So, a complete solution to this
problem is possible. It's just a matter of labor and we'll need
the source code of the service 36h.

Please let me know if anyone is interested. And please tell
me if y0ou need the source (portable among ASM/A86/TASM).


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Nan-Shan Chen wrote:

> Yes, I agree with Stefan because I've ``disabled'' the very
> DOS service 36h on my Sandisk CF128...

I knew the experts are here ;-) Rudi, haven't heard from you
for a long time.

> The implementation is a general purpose TSR: ic.com (3560 bytes)
> I thus have a line in my autoexec.bat:
>
>      a:\bin\mein\ic.com 21 ah=3D36 /t
>
> with the option /t meaning ``trapping'' with IRET.

If all you want is to disable this very function from DOS,
one could do it in a 500 bytes TSR, but I see, your IC.COM
is much more powerful.

Good news to see there is a solution for this problem,
but as you say, one should be *VERY* careful in using it.

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Date:         Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:27:24 -0500
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I had a 200lx failure while charging as well. I also have heard of a
few times that it happened to people on this list. I was using a
utility to increase fast charge times and it probably caused a heat
issue. I no longer charge batteries in my lx. I find it easier to be a
conspicuous consumer and use alkaline batteries.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.eduOn
> Behalf Of
> Klaus Reinhardt
> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 3:26 PM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: No screen, click only
>
>
> ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start
> -------------------
> Hi
>
> After some time I had to load up the batteries - a lot of
> hours. Then after a time I couldn't it switch on. I removed
> all 3 batteries, waited a day put in fresh ones: the same
> behavior:
> When I press <ctr>+<shi>+<on> I can here a click and
> by releasing a second. Are there destroyed some circuit
> by too long loading? My other 200lx didn't crash.
>
> Any hint? TiA.
>
>                 K@Rdt
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Do you have a dos 3.3 or 5.0 boot floppy around? try booting the
machine into that and see if you can install.... oh, wait fat32
harddrives won't work. try copying the floppies to your LX flash A:
drive and install the C: drive on the lx?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.eduOn
> Behalf Of
> Patrick West
> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 7:26 AM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: procomm plus 2.01
>
>
> Folks,
>
> Before my 200lx died I ran Procomm Plus 2.01 on it with a
> pcmcia xjack 14.4 modem.
>
> These days I am using a 100lx (still haven't completed
> switching the screen from the other 100lx to the 200lx)
>
> So I copied my files over to the pcmcia card and plan to
> run a optima 14.4 external modem.  I ran a stripped down
> version of Procomm to save space.
>
> I have the following files
>
> PCPLUS.DIR
> PCPLUS.EXE
> PCPLUS.FON
> PCPLUS.HLP
> PCPLUS.ICN
> PCPLUS.KBD
> PCPLUS.KEY
> PCPLUS.PRM
> PCPLUS.XLT
>
>
> I dug out my old 5.25 inch disks booted up my
> microsolutions parallel port 5.25 inch drive, attached to a
> p133 win98 laptop.
>
> Program wouldn't install, got a program too big to fit in
> memory error. Figgured it was the floppy disk drivers so I
> copied the
> files and tried in a true dos boot off 3.5 floppies made
> from the 5.25 disks.
>
> Same error.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
> Patrick
>
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> Date:    Fri, 9 Nov 2001 22:39:55 -0500
> From:    Tralornik <Tralornik@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
> Subject: SUPER Site and Future Source Code Repository?
>
snip
>
> Of course, the only ones that could put this together would be the
SUPER
> maintainers, since they have all the emails and could automate and
> facilitate the first step of aquiring as much source as possible.
>
> What do you all think?

This kinda sounds like SourceForge (www.sourceforge.net). They specialize
in hosting open source projects and provide many services to help
development. For multiple developers working on code, they use what is
called CVS. CVS keeps track of any changes made to any files and can
merge simultaneous changes made by multiple programmers on a single file.
In some ways, CVS can look like FTP if you just download the
lasted-and-greatest or if you need a specific verion of a file, or if you
need to upload a completly new file. You would need a CVS client to talk
to the CVS server, but I don't know if any exist for DOS, and even then
for an XT class PC. Anyone?


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> I use them till I get the normal low battery warning from the HP,
> including on modem connections altho, that does get hair-raising as the
> bytes keep ticking on by or message numbers keep climbing and the HP
> beeps it low warning - so far, no data loss.  (fingers crossed)

And then the last piece of mail turns out to be a 4 line piece of spam =
with
100K of formatting, including the duplicate HTML version..... ;)

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> To prove my assertion, I allow myself to attach the 78 bytes
> test program FREE.COM to this email which I just wrote.
> (I know, no attachments allowed here). FREE.COM checks the
> free disk space and outputs it in hex. It gives you a good
> feeling on how long your card needs to offer this information.

Thanks for the nifty little program.  It works as advertised on my =
palmtop.  It
shows very clearly the difference between the first and subsequent =
accesses of
my 96 Meg CF.  It also shows that the internal 64 Meg C: drive is much =
faster
after power on than the CF.

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Stefan Peichl wrote:
> The reason why it takes so long is the
> DOS function 0x36: get free disk space.
>
> To prove my assertion, I allow myself to attach the 78 bytes
> test program FREE.COM to this email which I just wrote.

Thanks for the explanation and the tool too!

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:26:06 +0000
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> > I use them till I get the normal low battery warning from the HP,
> > including on modem connections altho, that does get hair-raising as the
> > bytes keep ticking on by or message numbers keep climbing and the HP
> > beeps it low warning - so far, no data loss.  (fingers crossed)
>
> And then the last piece of mail turns out to be a 4 line piece of spam with
> 100K of formatting, including the duplicate HTML version..... ;)

Hmmm.  Is this perchance referring to my reply to TEST! (G)

I guess I inadvertantly told Post to use one of those "extra parts" when
replying altho, I usually save ignore or whatever.

I will admit that I do so little traveling lately and that each place I
go has different setup requirements and outrageous room charges or
juggling equipment in the public lobby that I don't hookup remotely as
often as I once did.

And, yes, this account which gets this list gets tons of junk/spam.  I
really would love something enforceable against spam since I really,
really do NOT want to increase my BREAST SIZE - sign me a normal male
with normal breast size!!!!!!!! (G)

And it is not a FREE SPEECH issue - I pay to receive their junk.

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So it would work on a 386?

--- Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK> wrote:
> The processor.   Minimun required is 8186.   Most
> DOS CGA machines use a
> 8086 or 8088.   Same problem for Freepad.   I share
> in your disappointment,
> as I still have two such machines.
>
> Domingo
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Questor Jones" <questor_jones@YAHOO.COM>
>
>
> > So then why wouldn't the connectivity pack run on
> a
> > CGA DOS machine, since the palmtp is CGA as well?
> >
> > --- Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK> wrote:
> > > ICYI, the connectivy pack DOES run on the
> Palmtop.
> > > Search the archives.
> > > It requires either modification or elimination
> of a
> > > file (don't recall
> > > which).
> > >
> > > Domingo
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Date:         Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:11:43 -0800
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From:         Questor Jones <questor_jones@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: SUPER Site and Future Source Code Repository?
Comments: To: Tralornik <Tralornik@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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I think this is a great idea.  Is anyone maintaining
the SUPER site anymore that we could contact?  (IE:
that would reply to email?)



--- Tralornik <Tralornik@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:
> Does anyone still Maintain the SUPER site?  Looks
> like most pages haven't
> been updated in years.  (Although it is still a
> GREAT site).
>
> If thier are mantainers and they read this
> newsgroup, I have a
> recommendation.
>
> Since all the email addresses of all the authors of
> the various pieces of LX
> software are on thier site, they should consider an
> automated mailing asking
> that all program authors to submit thier source code
> for thier programs.
>
> I mean alot of good work was done to make some great
> programs on the LXs and
> most of these authors probably don't have LXs
> anymore and wouldn't mind
> sharing the source at this time (although some
> might, especially those that
> are still active).
>
> The source code would enable those few remaining LX
> programmers the ability
> to enhance and add fresh features to old favorites.
>
> Further along those lines would be an multi-program
> Open-source project so
> that programmers can build on each others
> enhancements and create custom
> versions. (although this would hardly be necessary,
> just making the source
> available would be awesome)
>
> Think about it....Most of the custom software for
> these machines is years
> old and has really no copyright value to the
> original programmers.  I think
> a large number of the authors would be more than
> willing to donate thier
> source to a repository of soem sort.
>
> Of course, the only ones that could put this
> together would be the SUPER
> maintainers, since they have all the emails and
> could automate and
> facilitate the first step of aquiring as much source
> as possible.
>
> What do you all think?
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I would love to have a copy of this program as well as the source.

Thanks so much for the full explanation.  I too find the delay unacceptable
and unlike you, I will probably never fill my CF card anyway.

Thanks so much !


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Date:         Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:18:54 -0500
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Damn! I hate when I do something stupid while trying to be clever! ;P

>
> > That's what she said! <insert snare drum/symbol crash here>
>
> Did you mean cymbal crash, or expensive pda hitting the
> pavement?  :-)
> Sorry, couldn't resist.
>
> Domingo

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Date:         Sun, 11 Nov 2001 21:28:13 +0100
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Hi Avi,

I used those Lithium batteries for quite some time and got always between 35
and 50 hours out of them, sometime up to 60! This was on a DS 32MB
machine, later a DS 96MB. I still always have a spare pair in my car, my office
and my "travel box", just in case (they have an excellent shelf life).

I had tried NiCd rechargeables, but had to recharge almost every day, as I
usually did not make 2 days. Got about 10 to 12 hours out of them. But then I
purchased a set of Mack's (Baggette) super NiMH, and that really sold me! I get
about 20 to 25 hrs out of them, which means I only have to recharge 2 or 3
times a week, which seems to make a big difference for me in ease of use (and
of course cost!). This same set of rechargeables is in my (DS 96MB) 200LX
since more than 3 years, so has been charged (with ABC/LX) many many times
over. Also no memory effect!

I think there must be even higher capacity NiMH out there (I believe in AA size
they now go towards 1800 mAh, mine are 1350 I think) but so far I have no
need to find out if they are also better.

Best regards,

          ...Frank LOUWERS (Belgium)...

On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:19:25 -0800, Avi Meshar wrote:

>
>Anyone has any comments on service life, safe disposal,
>pricing, discharge characteristics, places to find them?
>

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OK folks, some programming questions.

I have a couple of applications that I am developing, for several
handheld platforms (principally my beloved Psion 3mx, but I aim to cover
all possibilities eventually).  What (other than my C compiler) do I
need to create HPLX applications?  I'd like them to run from the icon
screen. Will they work equally well on a 100lx as a 200lx?  Thanks.

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Date:         Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:50:23 -0500
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If I am not mistaken, a 386 is higher than a 186.  :-)    So yes, it would
qualify.   If you are thinking about the DOS 386 palmtop, you would still to
modify the starting batch file to deal with cga graphics (Patrick recently
posted the appropiate change required).

Domingo

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> So it would work on a 386?
>
> --- Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK> wrote:
> > The processor.   Minimun required is 8186.   Most
> > DOS CGA machines use a
> > 8086 or 8088.   Same problem for Freepad.   I share
> > in your disappointment,
> > as I still have two such machines.
> >
> > Domingo
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Questor Jones" <questor_jones@YAHOO.COM>
> >
> >
> > > So then why wouldn't the connectivity pack run on
> > a
> > > CGA DOS machine, since the palmtp is CGA as well?
> > >
> > > --- Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK> wrote:
> > > > ICYI, the connectivy pack DOES run on the
> > Palmtop.
> > > > Search the archives.
> > > > It requires either modification or elimination
> > of a
> > > > file (don't recall
> > > > which).
> > > >
> > > > Domingo
> >
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:30:46 +0800, Adrian Ho wrote:

> EPOC Word and Sheet are decent MS Word & Excel companions,
> good enough to bang out faxes (also sent wirelessly) and
> quick projections.  The keyboard works for me, and the backlit
> color screen (roughly same rez as the LX) is easy on the eyes.

I have tested the 9210 in the store I work, but I can not think of a
situation where I want a colorscreen. Ofcourse it is "nice" to have,
but as somebody said "now we have color..where do we go from here.."

The new Ericsson T68 cellphone also has a colorscreen(256), but other
than that it is a Ericsson T39m with a built in arial.

> But now that I've found my new love, I still can't bear
> to part with the LX.  Kinda like a high-school sweetheart,
> I guess.  8-)

I will never sell the Hplx's I have. But who knows what gadgets I will
"fall" for in the future. Glad that the 92xx do what you need to do.

Regards

--
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Date:         Sun, 11 Nov 2001 22:47:18 +0000
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Ed Padin wrote:
> issue. I no longer charge batteries in my lx. I find it easier to be a
> conspicuous consumer and use alkaline batteries.

I've played with rechargeables but like you I find disposable
alkalines easier.

Cheers... Russ

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Steve Carder wrote:

> Thanks for the nifty little program.
> It also shows that the internal 64 Meg C: drive is much
> faster after power on than the CF.

I cannot agree on that. I also have the 64MB upgrade and a 96MB
Sandisk CF card. The 64MB C: drive is not removable and hence
only the very first access after a reboot (not after power on)
takes long. If you don't want to reboot, you may also just run
CHKDSK on your C: drive. Run FREE.COM after CHKDSK on your
C: drive, and it takes just as long as on A: after power on.

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You need PAL to make your life alot easier...to program for 100LX/200LX

Even has source code I believe so you taylor it to your needs.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/gilles/

(CLICK on PAL LINK)


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To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 3:31 PM
Subject: System development


> OK folks, some programming questions.
>
> I have a couple of applications that I am developing, for several
> handheld platforms (principally my beloved Psion 3mx, but I aim to cover
> all possibilities eventually).  What (other than my C compiler) do I
> need to create HPLX applications?  I'd like them to run from the icon
> screen. Will they work equally well on a 100lx as a 200lx?  Thanks.
>
> Stuart
>
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Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:54:22 +1300 (NZDT)

10h54m43s ago ...
On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:59:39 +0100, Guenther Eisele wrote:

> I don't know how common SMTP AUTH is for you guys in this
> list.

I (like you<G>) know of gmx. Also smtp.cs.com does it.

> I even don't know if the current version of post/lx
> finally supports this important feature (my 2.2g version
> doesn't).

Yes, introduced a year ago to POST/LX.

> This is of course the easiest solution to the
> SMTP problem...

Exactly, one SMTP is then enough :)
It should be more common.

Your database will be handy for visitors to, and of course
natives of, Germany.

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Date:         Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:18:47 -0600
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Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
> To Barry: I have the sources of the clipper
> program and I could change it. The printer
> commands sent to the printers are very simple,
> it is a reset, choosing draft font, line feeds, form
> feeds. No graphic formatting.

Are you describing the commands sent by Clipper to the printer?
If so I was thinking maybe Win2000 was printing in graphic mode
and their might be a way to tell it not to.  That would be your
cleanest solution.  I'm sure Clipper isn't telling it to print
in graphics mode.

If you do change clipper to print to a generic printer or a text
file which you can then print with Win2000 I think you'll have
to leave out the reset and font choices.

If that is what's going on the only thing that Win2000 is likely
to handle properly are tabs, linefeeds and formfeeds.  And maybe
not formfeeds.  I think I remember those are different on a
Laser printer and a dot matrix printer.

Again, I'm just guessing.  I don't know Win2000.  I've dealt
with printer controls a lot but it's been years.  I've been
retired for over 5 years now.

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Date:         Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:48:27 -0500
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> I cannot agree on that. I also have the 64MB upgrade and a 96MB
> Sandisk CF card. The 64MB C: drive is not removable and hence
> only the very first access after a reboot (not after power on)

Good point.  Well, it was a nice theory until the actual data showed up =
<g>.

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>
> > > I use them till I get the normal low battery warning from the HP,
> > > including on modem connections altho, that does get hair-raising as =
the
> > > bytes keep ticking on by or message numbers keep climbing and the =
HP
> > > beeps it low warning - so far, no data loss.  (fingers crossed)
> >
> > And then the last piece of mail turns out to be a 4 line piece of =
spam with
> > 100K of formatting, including the duplicate HTML version..... ;)
>
> Hmmm.  Is this perchance referring to my reply to TEST! (G)

No - that happens to be called "Murphey" (if something may go wrong it
will go wrong)   :)

- Murphey exists
- Murphey hits
- Murphey is especially after YOU !

And then there is Parkinson who claimed that Murphey was an optimist
(G).

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Mike

> From what I've seen in new PocketPC 2002 devices going into production =
early
> next year, the use of CF card slots is going away, from a storage
> standpoint.
...
> BTW, anyone considering buying a PocketPC 2002 PDA should consider =
waiting

I would not bother waiting - I would not buy in the first place ;-)

I have played with my J720 for three months now. Since two weeks it is
sitting in a corner collecting dust. The applications for WinCE
machines are almost useless if you really rely on a PDA.

The only interesting development will be Linux on such machines (I know
it is being done for iPAQ's).

HP Staber/Salzburg

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From:         Alban Pearce <alban@MYCROFT.U-NET.COM>
Subject:      OTY: Re: PCMCIA v. CF Card Discussion, PocketPC comments
Comments: To: HP Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <200111120558.AAA14686@siaar1aa.compuserve.com>

Does Anybody know of a database for linux that is configureable
like the Hplx Phone book ??
( yes i am running Familiar 0.5 with qt 1.3 on ipaq )

On 12 Nov 2001, at 7:00, HP Staber wrote:

> Mike
>
> > From what I've seen in new PocketPC 2002 devices going into
> > production early next year, the use of CF card slots is going away,
> > from a storage standpoint.
> ...
> > BTW, anyone considering buying a PocketPC 2002 PDA should consider
> > waiting
>
> I would not bother waiting - I would not buy in the first place ;-)
>
> I have played with my J720 for three months now. Since two weeks it is
> sitting in a corner collecting dust. The applications for WinCE
> machines are almost useless if you really rely on a PDA.
>
> The only interesting development will be Linux on such machines (I
> know it is being done for iPAQ's).
>
> HP Staber/Salzburg
>
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Date:         Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:31:25 +0100
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Heelo,

Seems that I have a BIG problem. I just doublespeeded my 200LX using Times2tech crystal. From that moment I cannot acess my 128MB Apacer CF card!
I quickly looked on their website - no drivers. I didn't need any driver until now. Any suggestions?

I already  had this problem on 200lx which I doublespeeded myself using normal 32MHz crystal from radioshack, but I thought it was caused by nonstandard crystal. Now with crystal from times2tech with DS31.EXE driver installed I have the same problem.



regards

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Date:         Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:25:20 +0000
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Hi Rudi, hi Stefan,

I see the experts here and I'm going to add my two cents <G>. If I'm
understanding correct it's possible to intercept into the startup
routine after pressing the "on" button.

Here is my strategy (which works at least if you swap your cards _ONLY_
when the palmtop is switched off): On startup check the ID of the card
inserted (you know how to do that, Stefan), compare it to the value
already saved in memory and, if it is identical, just use the saved FAT.
If there is a difference in card ID, just jump back to the basic
routine. This way the delay in reading the FAT can be avoided if no
card swap occured.

Oh, an additional pointer: Inserting a modem card (mostly I swap modem
cards and memory cards) you may jump back to the standard routine
immediately, because I think it's not possible to issue a DIR command
to a modem? For the more seldom cards (e.g. EXP combo or some EPSON or
IODATA combo cards) this should work too, because they are recognized
as modem and the additional memory is driven through a separate driver
or they behave like memory cards (so the ID is different and the FAT
has to be reead).

Well, maybe sometimes I have obvious ideas, but programming is another
matter, so I have to leave that task to you. Go for it, I'll be glad to
beta test nodelay.com <G>

   Gr|_le  Gottfried

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Date:         Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:46:58 +0200
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Hi Stefan,

On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:25:37 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> Higher capacities (>220MB) need AFAIK a driver to work in the
> palmtop. Something I don't want to relay on, because I want to
> be able to boot my system from CF card after complete crashs.

If one really needs such a big card and wants to boot from CF card if
the C: drive gets deleted, one could carry around a second, small CF
card as "emergency boot CF".
A cheap 4MB card is enough if you don't want to caryy a whole 32MB
drive backup on it ;-)

GTX
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Date:         Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:47:04 +0200
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Hi Stefan,

On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:50:11 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> To prove my assertion, I allow myself to attach the 78 bytes
> test program FREE.COM to this email which I just wrote.
> (I know, no attachments allowed here). FREE.COM checks the
> free disk space and outputs it in hex. It gives you a good
> feeling on how long your card needs to offer this information.

I think you whould have permission to attach any self-written program
you want here on the list. No one would really be annoyed, since
1. All your programs are useful for everyone
2. All your programs are so small that it's hardly noticeable that
there is any attachment. ;-)

But seriously:
Couldn't somehow the DOS function 0x36 be modified, so that it doesn't
calculate the free disk space, but give back a dummy value (0 for
example)?
This is of course a drawback if you are used to see the free disk space
and rely on that, but maybe some people don't need that and rather have
fast access to the card through filer and DOS.

Are there functions somewhere in command.com?
Couldn't that be patched with debug?
What do you think?

GtX
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Hi Rudi

On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:09:24 +0100, Nan-Shan Chen <chen@GET.UNI-PADERBORN.DE> wrote:

> DOS service 36h on my Sandisk CF128, so that I can get immediate
> response without delay. With ``disabling'' I mean intercepting
> this DOS service to return (IRET) without doing anything. In this
> case, the programs that call this service will report an undefined
> value of free disk space (usually 0 bytes free). Examples of the

Ah, I see, my idea is not new! :-)

> I can send to anyone interested in it. But first of all,

Yes, please send it to me.


You say the value of free disk space is saved somewhere while toe
machine isn't switched off.

Could't we try to save this value everytime is is calculated in a
non-volatile place (DOS drive / file), so it could be retrieved after
powerdown/powerup with a shorter delay from a file instead of beeing
totally recalculated from the FAT?

GTX
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Date:         Mon, 12 Nov 2001 08:19:40 -0500
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Are you sure it's the keyboard itself?  In my case, a similar problem with
several keys turned out to be in the cable connecting the keyboard with the
main board.  As a test, try pressing the case together at the front below
the <MENU> and <=> keys.  It this improves things then I'd say you've found
the problem and can try just cleaning this contact area.

Alan Striegel
Strategic Technology Consultant
Pioneer-Standard Electronics, Inc.
440-498-6773 Cell: 440-821-7330
striegel@pios.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Cheponis mailto:mac@WIRELESS.COM
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:14 AM
>...
> Well, I did disassemble the keyboard and washed both the "fingers" and
> the conductive "bubble" side of the keyboard matrix with 99% isopropyl
> alcohol, and it does seem a little better than before.  It
> wasn't so bad
> with your hints!
>
> But, alas, although it is better than before, sometimes the keys still
> miss.

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hi Barry, and all who responded to my question,

I found the reason for the Clipper print problem finally. Clipper
programs use 99% of the CPU power of W2K machines, and for this the
print progress was so slowly, that the command characters came not
"in time".
I did some tuning in the W2K Pc and now the printouts are o.k,
still it takes 10 or more seconds for the OS to start printing.
There is a workaround in Clipper programs higher V. 5.2, but not in
our Clipper 5.01 version.
I think we stay with W98 as a solution for now.

Werner

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Date:         Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:33:25 -0700
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Something along this line already exists with the PAL Library. It has a lot
of useful C code for developing LX applications.

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<snip>

Further along those lines would be an multi-program Open-source project so
that programmers can build on each others enhancements and create custom
versions. (although this would hardly be necessary, just making the source
available would be awesome)

<snip>

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Date:         Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:20:25 +0000
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Subject:      Re: Apacer CF & Double speed200lx
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> Seems that I have a BIG problem. I just doublespeeded my 200LX using
>Times2tech crystal. From that moment I cannot acess my 128MB Apacer CF
>card! I quickly looked on their website - no drivers. I didn't need any
>driver until now. Any suggestions?

> I already  had this problem on 200lx which I doublespeeded myself
>using normal 32MHz crystal from radioshack, but I thought it was caused
>by nonstandard crystal. Now with crystal from times2tech with DS31.EXE
>driver installed I have the same problem.

I don't have any answers but some questions that may help others help
solve your problem:

Did you test the card between those different crystals?  Is it possible
the card got messed up in the first crystal test?

Is the card now readable in other devices?

What error or errors do you get?  What happens when you try reading the
card?
I have not heard of the double speed having any affect on cards.

Good luck

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> > DOS service 36h on my Sandisk CF128, so that I can get immediate
> > etc

> Could't we try to save this value everytime is is calculated in a
> non-volatile place (DOS drive / file), so it could be retrieved after
> powerdown/powerup with a shorter delay from a file instead of beeing
> totally recalculated from the FAT?

Ah, darn, what's that secret area in the HP called?  Supposedly holds
whatever data unless all power is lost - retains it even during hard
resets?

Of course, other programs use it so that it cannot be blindly used and
each must check if data is already there.  Or maybe just saving that
info in a tiny file in c:\_dat would be faster - even just reading that
file in the background is faster than refreshing the info filer needs??

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Date:         Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:59:28 -0700
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I need to be able to fax ASCII text files. Any suggestions for
simple programs to use in DOS and on the LX? I'm trying to setup=

BGFAX, but get a lot of errors. Any other programs out there?

Bob Christopher     Littleton, Colorado USA     bob@palmtop.com

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Date:         Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:14:55 -0600
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Hi fellow HPLXers,

        Here is some data about battery types:

   http://www.rayovac.com/busoem/oem/specs/recharge_alk.shtml

                                              Leo
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Date:         Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:37:42 +0100
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> I need to be able to fax ASCII text files. Any suggestions for
> simple programs to use in DOS and on the LX? I'm trying to setup
> BGFAX, but get a lot of errors. Any other programs out there?

You need to go through the hole of that needle! It is worthwhile!

I use BGFAX as faxserver on a hp200lx connected to a network. It is
running flawless since years.

Kind regards

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Hello,

I apologize for this off topic post but I know the members of
this list are skilled in many areas and I would like to ask a
question.

I want to control the thermostat of a vacation home in northern
Minnesota. We have very cold winters in Minnesota and I want to
make a telephone call to activate the furnace before I arrive
for the weekend. This way it will be warm when I get there. I
know there are x-10 and other solutions but I wasn't happy with
any of the products I saw.

I did find a device used to manually reboot a computer from a
telephone in the B & B electronics catalog:
http://www.bb-elec.com/product.asp?sku=pstone. I can call this
device and activate it's 110 volt electrical outlet. I would
like to plug some type of switch into this outlet that when
energized, would close the circuit on the wire between the
thermostat and furnace. My questions:

1) Does anyone know of an off the shelf switch that when
energized by 110 volts would close the circuit on a low voltage
line between the thermostat and furnace?

2) If there is nothing available off the shelf, can someone get
me started on how to make one?

3) General comments about my plan?

Thanks again for your help.

Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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Date:         Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:43:01 -0500
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Hi all;

   A few years ago the topic of file corruption came up here and
I mentioned a CRC program I had written based on a code snippet
I had found to do a 16 bit Cyclic Redunancy Check (CRC).  The
only one that commented on it at the time wanted a 32 bit CRC as
it was more reliable (and he wanted some other features as well).
I revisited my code recently to address some functionality issues
and to fix a Y2K cosmetic blemish.  I had found a document on the
internet "A PAINLESS GUIDE TO CRC ERROR DETECTION ALGORITHMS",
19 August 1993, authored by Ross N. Williams.  Between the fact
that he coded the examples in C (so it wasn't easy for me to see
what was actually supposed to happen), and the code snippet I used
earlier was bad|bogus|non-standard, I decided to code up a table
driven Cyclic Redundancy Check based on the standard 32 bit CRC
polynomial used by PKZIP among others.

   The CRC is a good way to see if a file has changed or become
corrupt.  Which is why I bring the subject up.  For those people
that make automated backups, or otherwise archive files, a CRC
check is a robust way to determine if two files are truely
identical.  As PKZIP uses the same check, it is easy to compare
to a zipped file as well.  I had thought that S.U.P.E.R. had some
file checking programs, but my last search turned up empty.  If
there is any interest I could upload my program to S.U.P.E.R.,
assuming someone reminds me how.

   The relevant output from my program looking at files in the
working directory and PKUNZIP looking at the zipped files follows.
These are just the test and debug files I used to test the
program.

- - - - - - My Program with 16 bit checksum and 32 bit CRC

Program to display file checksums and CRC codes.

File            Date   Time   Size  Checksum  CRC
NUMBERS       7 Nov 01  8:53      9 54537   CBF43926
NUMBERS1      7 Nov 01  8:53     10 54537   00C49E49
NUMBERS2      7 Nov 01  8:53     11 54537   DD02D227
NUMBERS3      7 Nov 01  9:11     12 54537   77D55834
NUMBERS4      7 Nov 01  9:11     13 54537   F3C1CE60
NULL          7 Nov 01 15:20      1 00000   D202EF8D
NULLS         7 Nov 01 16:08      2 00000   41D912FF
ONE           7 Nov 01 14:49      1 00049   83DCEFB7
ONES          7 Nov 01 16:10      2 12593   D65A1577

- - - - - - and PKUNZIP

Searching ZIP: D:NUMS.ZIP

 Length  Method   Size  Ratio   Date    Time    CRC-32  Attr  Name
 ------  ------   ----- -----   ----    ----   -------- ----  ----
      9  Stored       9   0%  11-07-01  08:53  cbf43926 --w-  NUMBERS
     10  Stored      10   0%  11-07-01  08:53  00c49e49 --w-  NUMBERS1
     11  Stored      11   0%  11-07-01  08:53  dd02d227 --w-  NUMBERS2
     12  Stored      12   0%  11-07-01  09:11  77d55834 --w-  NUMBERS3
     13  Stored      13   0%  11-07-01  09:11  f3c1ce60 --w-  NUMBERS4
      1  Stored       1   0%  11-07-01  15:20  d202ef8d --w-  NULL
      2  Stored       2   0%  11-07-01  16:08  41d912ff --w-  NULLS
      1  Stored       1   0%  11-07-01  14:49  83dcefb7 --w-  ONE
      2  Stored       2   0%  11-07-01  16:10  d65a1577 --w-  ONES
 ------          ------  ---                                  -------
     61              61   0%                                        9

- - - - - -

   Comments about the usefulness, layout, or features are of
interest.  I normally use the program to see what gets changed
after program installs or upgrades.  Varients are one that does
all files in a directory and one that does a directory and all
subdirectories below it.

Steve

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Date:         Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:54:13 +0100
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>> Full size PCMCIA cards are really a thing of the past.
 >So is LX, so it's a match made in heaven.

:) :) :)

Sounds like George Burns saying "I can remember when the air was clean and
sex was dirty."

Anyway...heaven or not, i'd really like to lay my hands on one of those
famous Sandisk 220mb cards for $50 - very affordable!

i can't do E-bay - so, guys, anyone who can get one for me i offer $60 incl.
shipping

merci,
Nathalie

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Date:         Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:56:37 +0100
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  >If people stay on the HP200 it should be because it
  >provides tangible benefits to the owner that outway
  >the cost of migration.

 i have been toying with the thought of a Jornada 720 (to possess one) :)
 but .. too heavy, too big, no numeric keyboard, low battery life - and i
 thought i might as well log my laptop around - which was cheaper and can do
 more than the Jornada selling for AUD 1,700.- here down-under. PC-magazine
 in a price comparison rates it as not worth the money.

 nat

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Hi Bob

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:59:28 -0700, Bob Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM> wrote:

> I need to be able to fax ASCII text files. Any suggestions for
> simple programs to use in DOS and on the LX? I'm trying to setup
> BGFAX, but get a lot of errors. Any other programs out there?

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx

there is also a fax section.
I use 2bgfax, the companion of bgfax, for processing, but qfax to send
the faxes.

Good luck
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Hi Fred,

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:20:35 +0000, <fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> Ah, darn, what's that secret area in the HP called?  Supposedly holds
> whatever data unless all power is lost - retains it even during hard
> resets?

I think you mean the nvram?
Yes, this could be a place to hold such data. Probably faster to access
than a file in the FAT file system, but as you say - it is a sensitive
place.

But first question is: _can_ the value be exported in some way so that
a TSR could take it and save it somewhere?
I am not a TSR programmer, I only write little, simple programs on
higher levels.
I think Stefan and Rudi are the ones who know.
Or Barry?

In times when big flash cards get cheaper and cheaper, this may be an
important improvement.
I have also suffered from quite long initial delays after power-up with
my SimpleTech 96MB CF card.
When they are cheap enough, I'll probably switch back to Sandisk again.

Not that i have any problems with the SimpleTech (except that the green
color of the simpletech logo vanishes with time), but I feel better
storing my thesis and mind maps (or better - mind mirrors) on a
Sandisk. ;-)

GTX
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Hi all,

This is a question for the users of statistical analysis packages.
Recently, in the process of cleaning out the office of a deceased faculty
colleague, I came upon a set of 5.25" disks for Statgraphics 4.0 (a 1989
DOS package), but with no manual or any documentation.  I have since
installed this on my 200LX and it runs just fine.  However, without a
manual, there's a number of things I have no idea how to take care of.  I
have done some web searching for this item, as well as computer library
catalog searching, but have had no luck thus far. So, does anyone out there
have a manual for this sitting around gathering dust, perhaps at work, or
know where one might be found?  If so, let me know directly.

Thanks,
Martin




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Hi Tom,

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:45:31 -0600, Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> I did find a device used to manually reboot a computer from a
> telephone in the B & B electronics catalog:
> http://www.bb-elec.com/product.asp?sku=pstone. I can call this
> device and activate it's 110 volt electrical outlet. I would
> like to plug some type of switch into this outlet that when
> energized, would close the circuit on the wire between the
> thermostat and furnace. My questions:
>
> 1) Does anyone know of an off the shelf switch that when
> energized by 110 volts would close the circuit on a low voltage
> line between the thermostat and furnace?

So, you have a switched 110V outlet and want to let control this a
low-voltage line?

No problem at all:

Buy a cheap AC-Adapter (with DC-Output 4.5V for example) and a suitable
relay (which can switch the voltage / current your furnace needs and
which takes as switching voltage the voltage from the AC adapter.

Then mount everything together and it should work.


.                           power source for furnace
.           110V out                   |
.              |                       |
110V=====/_====O =AC-Ad===4.5V======>/_  (<relay)
.        |                             |
.    switched by telephone             |
.                                    furnace


You know what I mean?

> 3) General comments about my plan?

There could be of course a simpler solution with less devices in
between voltage source and furnace ;-)
But this one above is the simplest I think. I would do it this way.


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> I knew the experts are here ;-) Rudi, haven't heard from you
> for a long time.

Hi, Stefan. I dare not show up because I owe too many people!
Too all: I know my palmtop because Stefan sent me his Developer's
Guide (on his own cost :) and then Jorgen Wallgren sent me again
a newer version of the Developer's Guide (on his own cost :).
I plan to keep both of them, so that I'll remember them forever.
But if someone on the list claims that he would have a better
use of the Developer's Guide, then I'll have to send him the one
from Stefan (on my own cost :). And, I have not forgotten I still
owe Longden something, ... since almost two years .....

> > The implementation is a general purpose TSR: ic.com (3560 bytes)
> > I thus have a line in my autoexec.bat:
> >
> >      a:\bin\mein\ic.com 21 ah=36 /t
> >
> > with the option /t meaning ``trapping'' with IRET.
>
> If all you want is to disable this very function from DOS,
> one could do it in a 500 bytes TSR, but I see, your IC.COM
> is much more powerful.
>
> Good news to see there is a solution for this problem,
> but as you say, one should be *VERY* careful in using it.

P-l-e-a-s-e help solving the problem, because I think this
is a quite essential issue for everyone using a larger flash.
It's for you easy as pie while ASM could kill me.  And I need
an even larger disk now, because my CF128 is full -- last night
after posting to the list. BTW. I was using a UNIX-like "cp"
to copy a file to the flash card, while the DOS 26h was disabled.
"cp" (copy) does not use the service at all and told me that
the disk has not enough space. Neither does command.com: COPY
nor XCOPY use the service.  "echo ajdkasdjaasdjkl > x" does not
involve calling the service either, and so on.
But we'll need a proof ... :)

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Hallo Guenther and friends,

this list of providers is very usefull. There were many changes in
the last time (germany.net became nexgo, now it is arcor.de), but I
see, that most of the old access points are working.

I tested Arcor Zossen near to my hometown, and it works very fine
under Win98 with my analog modem and my mobile phone (city option, so
I have a mobile internet access paying just 0.15 DM =3D 0.07 cent) .

It also worked without any problems with the 200LX and the C35i
mobile phone. So Arcor *yes* works with mobile phones.

BTW: With the C35i, I use "ATDI" instead of "ATDT" to enforce a fast
ISDN-like login procedure.

2nd BTW: For german speaking list members: I've updated my homepage
with additional info on HP 200LX and internet providers:

http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/bread/689

Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
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Hello List,

I created a database containing German providers which have standard
phone numbers.

...
Note that the Arcor numbers do not work with
mobile phones, as they have a special routing of their numbers.

...
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Nan-Shan Chen wrote:

> Too all: I know my palmtop because Stefan sent me his Developer's
> Guide (on his own cost :)

I even forgot it. It must have been the old (100LX) version.
You owe me nothing!

> P-l-e-a-s-e help solving the problem, because I think this
> is a quite essential issue for everyone using a larger flash.

I had some thought about it last night. First of all, I suggest
to only chain into INT21h fkt36h and ring the bell whenever the
function is called and then let INT21 do its job. This will
inform you always if any program uses the function. Indeed you
know, that Filer, DIR, List will always ring the bell as
expected. But with the bell you will find out, if any other
program uses it as well.

You bypass already fkt36h, but if you replace your IRET with:

PUSHF
PUSHA
MOV AX,0E07h
INT 10h
POPA
POPF
IRET

you will always hear a beep if someone calls the function. It
will be annoying after a short time, but its purpose is to find
unexpected calls. If there are none, one could almost safely
bypass it, as you do already. But other users may use different
programs and one never knows.

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As a safety, you can add the bell ringing code and add it as a startup
parameter.

That way, people can turn it on off as they get new programs, etc.

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Nan-Shan Chen wrote:

> Too all: I know my palmtop because Stefan sent me his Developer's
> Guide (on his own cost :)

I even forgot it. It must have been the old (100LX) version.
You owe me nothing!

> P-l-e-a-s-e help solving the problem, because I think this
> is a quite essential issue for everyone using a larger flash.

I had some thought about it last night. First of all, I suggest
to only chain into INT21h fkt36h and ring the bell whenever the
function is called and then let INT21 do its job. This will
inform you always if any program uses the function. Indeed you
know, that Filer, DIR, List will always ring the bell as
expected. But with the bell you will find out, if any other
program uses it as well.

You bypass already fkt36h, but if you replace your IRET with:

PUSHF
PUSHA
MOV AX,0E07h
INT 10h
POPA
POPF
IRET

you will always hear a beep if someone calls the function. It
will be annoying after a short time, but its purpose is to find
unexpected calls. If there are none, one could almost safely
bypass it, as you do already. But other users may use different
programs and one never knows.

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> Ah, I see, my idea is not new! :-)

Huh? I have not read about it ... But I don't really go
through every post of list. I've made it to sort the
incoming mails via $HOME/.forward and a filter to a separate
folder and look once in a while to the folder. The vague
impression I got from the list is that you are a very, very,
very busy guy! :)  BTW. I always wanted to purchase one of your
"light" for the palmtop, but never have made it since more
than two years, I think.  Is there any left?

> Yes, please send it to me.
done.

> You say the value of free disk space is saved somewhere while toe
> machine isn't switched off.

I'm not sure that this information gets lost only when the
palmtop is powered off. I vaguely recall something about DOS
that if a big program is loaded for executaion, some part of
the command.com will be overwritten.  After the program terminated
and returned the control to the shell (COMMAND.COM), it will
check the integrity of itself and reload itself if necessary
(using COMSPEC).  Am I right??? Or is this an impression from
the good old CP/M ...

> Could't we try to save this value everytime is is calculated in a
> non-volatile place (DOS drive / file), so it could be retrieved after
> powerdown/powerup with a shorter delay from a file instead of beeing
> totally recalculated from the FAT?

Yes, it's another gut possibility, I think, i.e.
``to assist the DOS service'' instead of disabling it.
(DOS always needs assistance in its whole history. :)
The problem is: I don't know where it is saved and what
critical information the service is using. We need DOS-Gurus
to tell us where. I guess there could be some flag(s) in DOS
signaling necessity of updating this information and, quite
probably, these flags would not be used for this sole purpose.
Another issue, as Stefan has pointed out, is the
medium-change-flag. I did not thought of that at all.
This seems to be another project suitable for team-work.

One the other hand, since I cannot stand wating so long,
I have always disabled this DOS service already for four
months. And last night my flash card was finally full. So,
this approach could be a provisorical solution before a better
one is implemented (Stefan!). The problem remains that we
cannot tell the people this be safe although this has not
caused a problem so far ...  A proof would require checking
*all* compilers that they do not use this service for making
critical decision, and the habits of ASM-programmers count
too ... well, it's almost hopeless  :)   But I'll surely
keep disabling the 36h until ... Stefan!

Oh, yes, I seemed to have suggested to myself in the file
IC.DOC that if we move the occupied allocation blocks to the
end of the disk, once in a while, and keep more free blocks
at the beginning of the disk, the write-access to the disk
should be faster.  Becasue I recall (again, vaguely, sorry)
that the file allocation strategy DOS uses is to find the first
free block from the beginning of the FAT and then the next free
block and so on. (This has little to do with the DOS 36h
service, but it also causes a major delay of the write-access,
somehow, also for the first time, the second write seems to
become must faster.)
But we cannot experiment ... how? All de-fragmentation
utilities I know move the used blocks to the beginning of the
disk.  Well, I also wonder why they do that, and not the other
way, if I'm right about the allocation strategy of MSDOS
filesystem.  Any idea?

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I wonder if this same problem is what causes software carousel to slow
down. I notice that software carousel takes some time to swap
sometimes. It does seem to happen after a on/off/on but also happens
when you have not swapped for some time. Perhaps the buffer gets
flushed? Too bad this is not a linux-like OS where the buffer can be
written in the background. How about a TSR that detects when the free
space buffer is empty or out of date and refreshes it in the
background?


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>
>
> > Ah, I see, my idea is not new! :-)
>
> Huh? I have not read about it ... But I don't really go
> through every post of list. I've made it to sort the
> incoming mails via $HOME/.forward and a filter to a separate
> folder and look once in a while to the folder. The vague

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> you will always hear a beep if someone calls the function. It
> will be annoying after a short time, but its purpose is to find
> unexpected calls. If there are none, one could almost safely
> bypass it, as you do already. But other users may use different
                              
> programs and one never knows.

Yes, that is the very problem. Because I have been hearing
the sound for all four months ... :)  I have in IC.COM
options to either click the speaker or flip the screen.
All programs I'm using (mostly DOS ports of UNIX commands)
behave well, i.e. they do not call this verd**** 36h when a
write access is being intended (incl.  unlink/delete, append,
create, ...).  But we cannot tell the other that it be safe
becasue we don't know what programs they are using ... :(

So, as a assembler-Guru, you don't seem to use this
DOS service for any critical decision, do you? It's
already a big gain, if your answer is you don't.

I've just check my C-programs which were compiled by
Turbo C v2.0. They behave also very well. The C-function
used was fopen() and fprintf(). But, again, I cannot say
anything about a e.g. Fortran compiler that I don't know.

So, a good solution remains to be rewriting the 36h. And
writing 36h does not compleletly solve the problem because
reading a file and writing a file still involve scanning
through the big FAT. I've done no experiemnt here so far.
(See another post.)

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Avi Meshar writes:
> At 11/10/01 +0100, you wrote:
> >I use NiMHydrid batteries from Thaddeus. Their peak level is around
> >2.75 V and I run them frequently down to 2.1 - 2.2 Volt's.
>
> Too dangerous. Sorry, I think this not good advise, Hans-Peter. We'll have
> a bunch of people losing data now because they push batteries waaay too low.
>
> >You must not be paranoid and you have to save your work frequently when
> >you do this though :)
>
> It is not paranoia, that is reserved for those people who constantly follow
> me <VBG>. In the case of low batteries, it is anxiety, as I wrote. I am
> simply uninterested in losing data, and the exciting life one leads chasing
> old data to restore etc. I'd rather get my excitement in other ways.
>
> Thanks for the advice to save, frequently, but you forget my middle name
> "Avi BACKUP Meshar"! It is like preaching to the priest <g>
>

I cannot agree more. I am using NiMh batteries and 2 days ago was running them down too below 2.35V (with a pc card) and all of a sudden the FAT of my C:
drive was all screwed up. For the first time evr I did a hard reset, and typed
"Y" to reinitioalise drive C. I then restored it all from the zipped backup on
drive a:(after changing batteries). Total lost time: 10 minutes. Total lost
info: one new phone number in the address book -which I had written down
anyway.

David (Gibuy) Becher

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Avi

> These are the L91 gold and red Energizer batteries which last
> for many many hours in the Palmtop. There were reports of them
> lasting anywhere from 35 hours to 71 hours. <<

I've been a long time user of lithium batteries for my lx.  I like the =
longer life, the resistance to cold, and the ability to better withstand =
higher current draws with a modem.  I use battlog to keep track of them; =
I get between 50 - 75 hrs on them with about 56 being normal.  That is =
with a sandisk 48mb cf used mostly for backups, and an 8mb 2x lx.  I =
change them out at around 2.4.

The gold and red color on energizers has now been replaced with a blue/sil=
ver scheme.  I usually have to pay $12-14 per 4 pack.

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Bryan,

I use American Heritage Dictionary v1.000 Copyright 1990-1992.
Works well and it is fast. I also have the Collins dictionary
mentioned here elsewhere.

If you are looking for spelling only, PE
(http://www.dasoft.com check products) can use any wordlist,
and there are plenty. Also Quick/LX (www.dasoft.com too) can be used as a =
spelling
checker on-the-fly, with any simple ASCII wordlist (but memory
is a consideration.)

  Avi M.
  D$A Software


Bryan Biggers wrote:
> You know, my LX would be just so much more useful if I had a
> decent dictonary program for it that would run in DOS. Such a
> thing must have existed at one time, does anyone know where I can
> get one? Bryan
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Mike Cheponis wrote:
> Quicken is the big difference for me.
>
> The phone app is arguably better on the 200LX

AFAIK it is identical between the machines.

BTW, on both machines you can load a better font.

> Also, jet black is cooler on the 100LX imho than olive drab on the =
200LX.

Agree with you there! More disnguished looking. I know several
people who bought a 100LX just for the case <G>...

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Jacques Belin wrote:
> Le Thu, 8 Nov 2001 01:48:25 -0500
> Tralornik <Tralornik@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> a =E9crit:
>
> > Interestin Handheld Chronology
> >
> > http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/handheld/index.htm
>
> Missing (for example...) :
>
> - 1979 : HP-41 (fisrt alpha-numeric programmable calculator)

Oh, yes: Several models, in fact.

> - 1981? (before or after the HP75, I don't rememeber) : HP-71 (to be
>   very brief, something similar to the HP-75, but more powerful, with
>   almost freely available ROM code sources... etc..). Very much =
models
>   solds than the HP75...

HP71 - Had one! Great machine. HP75 I built a system for
attorneys to keep track of cases, work done for customers,
billing, receipts, Timeslips, time records, and more. Sold a
large number of these! I held seminars where I demonstrated
these. One joke never went over well: This attorney dies
unexpectedly and at the Pearly Gates he is looking for any
loophole to reverse the death. Then, miraculously, St. Peter
asks him to confirm he is 97 years old. "No! You see? You have
the wrong Joe Blue! Send me back..." St. Peter is unphazed,
and replies "Sorry, but we calculated your age from a reliable
source: Your own time records, the same ones you used to bill
your customers from!" <g>... For some reason, the attorneys
never laughed at that joke! ;-)

> - 1994 (June/july ) : HP200

Augsut 1 1994? I purchased mine the day after release from
Educalc. <g>

I sent an email with a few other additions.

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Questor Jones wrote:
> Could someone tell me why the 200LX goes for so much
> more money than the 100LX ??
>
> I mean I know the differences...but they all seem so
> minor....couple games, little more memory expansion
> (which cost big $$), hot swap (like I care if I need
> to turn it off for a second)....

I don't think 200LX provides a hot swap, but I may be wrong.

Besides, add the following trivia: the Datacomm (built-in) in
100LX is graphical, and thus EXTREMELY slow. 200LX it is
character based. Maybe there is a bug fix or two in the Memo,
but I cannot recall.

> Besides, with a huge CF card and 2MB version, the
> upgradability doesn't seem all that great.

I am not sure this makes sense. Example: Even if you have a
1GB drive, in a 1MB machine, which provides a 352K C: drive,
there is not much you can do online for example, unless you
use also an external modem, not a PCMCIA.

Another example where memory expansio IS a good thing: If you
want to use Souftware Carousel (to imitate holding several
palmtops, each loaded with a different set of apps) the switch
time between these "images" of palmtop machines on a CF drive
is TeRRIBLE! You want to put it in fast "storage", such as a
large C: drive implemented in memory chips (read that as the
Times2Tech expansion modules).

> (100LX can
> be DOUBLESPEEDed at least).
>
> So what gives ?

No idea. There are many many more of the 200LX and the number
200 > 100 maybe gives the sense that it is a dramatically
different machine.

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I find myself agreeing with most bits and pieces that everyone
else wrote in this thread. Including the advice (sane, IMHO)
that one should stay with the 200LX if there are tangible
benefits.

Over and over again, I find that I there are apps on the
desktop which I want to use for various reasons. And still,
over and over I also find that I co-opt the desktop apps to do
work on behalf of the Palmtop. An example is the Win GDB app.
In some of my large databases, it takes a long time to change
view or sort. But with a nice PCMCIA card loaded up with the
database, and the raw speed of an Pentium something 750MHz, a
reorganization is VERY swift! <g>...

Another use is sorting message databases - same usage of raw
speed.

In short, it seems that the desktop (and the notebook) are the
"brute force slaves" of the Palmtop. And then I can take the
resutls with me and work at a place I like, looking at ocean
waves, or trees, instead of an office.

I never feel like a "traitor", or like I abandon the Palmtop,
when I use other machines for what they are good at - brute
force and speed. On the contrary. These machines make my life
easier, and enable the Palmtop to be more useful to me.

And limitations keep being overcome: In the not too distant
past, Andreas created a program called GET - which retrieved
WWW documents and processed them sufficiently to use HV to
read them. Eventually, the development of web documents stood
in the way. Enter Tony. He took a poerful tool, Robot/LX (by
no other than Andreas <g>) and extended it to the point that
it became the newsgroup program of choice in the WWW/LX
package. But then Tony went a step further: He went into
RoboWeb/LX. (see http://www.dasoft.com/ROBOWEB) This is a
powerful tool that exceeds GET many times over, built from
relatively standard "building blocks" (other programs) and
together, this tool lets you treat documents all over the web
as easily and automatically retrievable pieces of information,
and you can even handle them as email items.

Several of the D&A Beta members and others here, are
surpassing many perceived limitations easily and simply,
extending the power and usability of the palmtop.

The best thing to do is listen and encourage these people to
talk. They are pushing their palmtops through amaing "walls",
and move on and on. Ask them to tell you what they do: Helmuth
with his DataPerfect/WordPerfect etc. faxing, networking, and
usage of cellphone in conjunction with WWW/LX. Hans Peter with
his use of RoboWeb to retrieve information he uses at work
(right?) to help him stay ahead of competition, and even ahead
of his own colleagues <g>... Buddy users like Fred, Andreas,
and so on.

This is a machine to STAY with - so far no replacements in
sight - nothing to compete with it in size, simplicity,
sturdiness, functionality and usefulness.

And I won't mention the length of battery life <g>...

What strikes me a hilarious and indicative of how useful the
machine is are the threads we have here about WWW/LX vs. LXYCP
vs. NetTamer, Or XGREP vs. Xtree, etc. Why? What other machine
you know that can run and use so many BEST OF BREED programs?

Long live the HP 200LX Palmtop (and 100LX and OG 700LX and
1000CX)!!! <VBG>

Thank you for your patience while I raved (but sis not
rant...)

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pksharma wrote:
> bob,
>
> is this true ?
>
> 1.75 million HpLx200's sold ?

I think the correct quote would be 1.75 palmtops of various
kinds, not just 200LX.

> looks a bit too much ..
> where are all those good people ?

Most machines were sold to companies who gave it to people who
many times did not use it at all. So there is probably a huge
stash of them in the backs of corporate drawers <g>...

> from the traffic in this list and in other
> forums .. it looks like there are only a
> few thousand users .. and of them only
> a few hundreds are active on any lists

Don't let this fool you. Most vendors in this market niche
compiled a list of many thousand names. In talks with other
vendors, we assume the size of the active market now is about
50,000 people. Many of these have more than one machine. This
number may be a bit high, but it was realistic 1-2 years ago.

Another place for many many such machines is in laboratories.
Medical, physics, and inside companies that do things with
them, have them control various other machines etc.

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Avi Meshar wrote:


>>
>
> Most machines were sold to companies who gave it to people who
> many times did not use it at all. So there is probably a huge
> stash of them in the backs of corporate drawers <g>...
>

This is true. A friend of mine who worked for a Certain Large
Company said that he could requisition them as "office supplies".
  I'm not sure if he actually used it though. Bryan

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Has anyone ever had a problem when using Curtis Cameron, Outlook to HPLX
converter, when you try to Synchornize?

I always get all my contacts duplicated in both, rather than synchronized.

Very frustrating, since I have to delete all the duplicates.

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I would like to do offline reading of the web, but I
don't have a modem for my LX and don't plan to get
one.

I want to use the modem on my PC to download content
into text form for easy reading later.

Is thier anything that does that that does NOT requre
WWW/LX, HV.EXE, or any other software that is limited
in it's trial version.  I respect the efforts of those
that created those programs, but I shell out $$ every
month for an online connection and don't want to have
to spend another $80 so I can use my LX to read web
content, since it will never have a modem attached to
it and I will therefore never get the full value form
the software.

I guess what I am looking for is something that works
like ROBOWEB, but just dump content in Text format
(and importantly repairs the file names to be 8-dot-3
compatible).

I figure theier must be some PC software out there
somewhere that does this, but I have yet to find it.

Thanks.




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Even so, it sounds to me like it they are similar
enough NOT to justify the (upto) 400% increase in
price of the 200LX over the 100LX on EBAY.



> No idea. There are many many more of the 200LX and
> the number
> 200 > 100 maybe gives the sense that it is a
> dramatically
> different machine.
>
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Bingo!

Thanks very much.  I removed the bottom four Torx machine screws and wow
was it dusty in there!  Some isopropyl alcohol on all the contacts,
including the (very dirty) keyboard cable connection, was all it took.

Thanks all for the suggestions.  Any piece of h/w that is supposed to
last a long time has got to be easy to repair, too.  Seems like the 200LX is.

----

What was throwing me off a bit was that when I presssed Really Hard down
on certain keys, they would "work" - but clearly, I was pressing so hard
that it was exerting enough pressure on the machine so that the dirty
keyboard connector made contact!

The fact that I ignored in this was that the keys that weren't working:
f r c were, in fact, in pretty much a vertical line - and I should have
figured that something to do with keyboard scanning was involved, not just
an isolated dirtball under one key.

Again, thanks all!

-Mike


On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Striegel, Alan wrote:

> Are you sure it's the keyboard itself?  In my case, a similar problem with
> several keys turned out to be in the cable connecting the keyboard with the
> main board.  As a test, try pressing the case together at the front below
> the <MENU> and <=> keys.  It this improves things then I'd say you've found
> the problem and can try just cleaning this contact area.
>
> Alan Striegel
> Strategic Technology Consultant
> Pioneer-Standard Electronics, Inc.
> 440-498-6773 Cell: 440-821-7330
> striegel@pios.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Cheponis mailto:mac@WIRELESS.COM

> > the conductive "bubble" side of the keyboard matrix with 99% isopropyl
> > alcohol, and it does seem a little better than before.  It
> > wasn't so bad with your hints!
> >
> > But, alas, although it is better than before, sometimes the keys still
> > miss.

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Check this site out,
http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525
25252520tech.htm
But it is very slow.

Roger
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> That's interesting....The connectivity pack is one of the
few DOS programs
> that don't run on the Palmtop....becuase they require EGA
or better
> resolution..
>
> Probably intentional, so other competing hardware (of the
timethat was
> limited to CGA) could not run anything similar to thier
built-in Apps.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "th" <tom.hornberger@VERIZON.NET>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 9:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications
>
>
> > No,
> > The built in apps need the ROM in the LX to run.  The HP
Connectivity
> > pack has DOS versions of the programs that will run on
EGA (or better)
> > displays.  There also exists Win 3.1 versions of APPT,
HPCALC and
> > ADDRESS BOOK.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Tom
> >
> >
>
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> Hi Fred,
>
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:20:35 +0000, <fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> > Ah, darn, what's that secret area in the HP called?  Supposedly holds
> > whatever data unless all power is lost - retains it even during hard
> > resets?
>
> I think you mean the nvram?
> Yes, this could be a place to hold such data. Probably faster to access
> than a file in the FAT file system, but as you say - it is a sensitive
> place.

Thanks for the reminder - my personal nvram is a bit faulty.

> But first question is: _can_ the value be exported in some way so that
> a TSR could take it and save it somewhere?

Probably, as a binary/hex value, disk space it can't take too much room
but I don't recall how much nvram there is.  And dealing with it is a
mystic art, I think.  I think Andreas and Jeff Mattox used it.  Not sure
of others....

> I am not a TSR programmer, I only write little, simple programs on
> higher levels.
> I think Stefan and Rudi are the ones who know.
> Or Barry?

Well, you seem to have created some nifty programs but as the others
have said, you definitely do a wonderful job of documenting the hp on
your web site.

> In times when big flash cards get cheaper and cheaper, this may be an
> important improvement.
> I have also suffered from quite long initial delays after power-up with
> my SimpleTech 96MB CF card.

Yes, I just got a 128cf sandisk card a few weeks back.  Figuring I can
use in in the HP primarily but also as additional "film" in my digital
camera.  Got into it in the Canadian Rockies two months ago.  Altho,
printing digital is EXPENSIVE!

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Does the connectivity pack emulate the HPLX's System Manager as well as have
the DOS versions of the built-in Apps.

I mean when you run the Connectivity Pack on a Desktop machine, does it look
just like the HP LX palmtop, with all the icons, etc?

Also, If you run it on a portable machine, do the alarm cause the machine to
turn on so they work?

Also, If anyone has this item for sale used, please email me directly.

Thanks

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David Becher wrote:
> Avi Meshar writes:
> > At 11/10/01 +0100, you wrote:
> > >I use NiMHydrid batteries from Thaddeus. Their peak level is around
> > >2.75 V and I run them frequently down to 2.1 - 2.2 Volt's.
> >
> > Too dangerous. Sorry, I think this not good advise, Hans-Peter. We'll =
have
> > a bunch of people losing data now because they push batteries waaay =
too low.
>
> I cannot agree more. I am using NiMh batteries and 2 days ago was =
running them down too below 2.35V (with a pc card) and all of a sudden =
the FAT of my C:
> drive was all screwed up. For the first time evr I did a hard reset, =
and typed
> "Y" to reinitioalise drive C. I then restored it all from the zipped =
backup on
> drive a:(after changing batteries). Total lost time: 10 minutes. Total =
lost
> info: one new phone number in the address book -which I had written =
down
> anyway.

That reinitialising is not necessary. If you do a hard reset you should
type NO or if you can't read because of the missing speed driver just
hit Alt-Ctrl-Del and the machine will reboot as usual.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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>To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:10 AM
>Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx



>What strikes me a hilarious and indicative of how useful the
>machine is are the threads we have here about WWW/LX vs. LXYCP
>vs. NetTamer, Or XGREP vs. Xtree, etc. Why? What other machine
>you know that can run and use so many BEST OF BREED programs?

NO ! Its neither hilarious nor indicative ..
ITS SOLID proof of the goodness of the
product and its philosophy .. which, i say
for the umpteenth time, needs to be studied ..
understood .. preserved .. and most important ..
replicated .. there is nothing like putting
the foundation of permanency on something
GOOD .. once it is known, understood, PROVED
to be good .. why the reluctance .. there
are none here with any ego hassels ..
we are almost unanimously agree on
this slogan of yours :

"Long live the HP 200LX Palmtop (and 100LX and OG 700LX and
1000CX)!!! "

and may i add .. its philosophy .. design ..


(I do have an OG700 .. how many others do ?
and what is an 1000CX ?)

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I KNEW IT .. I lost that program .. some
time back someone wanted to know
if gdb files can be manipulated on a
desktop without converting to other
formats !

here is the answer :

>----- Original Message -----
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>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:10 AM
>Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx




> An example is the Win GDB app. <== THIS IS IT !



>In some of my large databases, it takes a long time to change
>view or sort. But with a nice PCMCIA card loaded up with the
>database, and the raw speed of an Pentium something 750MHz, a
>reorganization is VERY swift! <g>...

>Another use is sorting message databases - same usage of raw
>speed.

>In short, it seems that the desktop (and the notebook) are the
>"brute force slaves" of the Palmtop. And then I can take the
>resutls with me and work at a place I like, looking at ocean
>waves, or trees, instead of an office.

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> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:10 AM
> Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers?

>> 1.75 million HpLx200's sold ?

> I think the correct quote would be 1.75 palmtops of various
> kinds, not just 200LX.

This is a more reasonably correct estimate !


>> where are all those good people ?
> Most machines were sold to companies who gave it to people who
> many times did not use it at all. So there is probably a huge
> stash of them in the backs of corporate drawers <g>...

WOW ! what a goldmine ! "most machines" ? .. just yr
guess or is this based on correct info .. i guess corporates
usually give useful hardware to its people .. who of course
don't agree with the idea that the hardware IS of any use ..
so it lands up in the backs of drawers .. the uselessness of
anything 'free' is a universal phenomenon .. a sad one !

my hands are itching to mine that goldmine ! even by
paying for it ..


>Most vendors in this market niche
>compiled a list of many thousand names. In talks with other
>vendors, we assume the size of the active market now is about
>50,000 people. Many of these have more than one machine. This
>number may be a bit high, but it was realistic 1-2 years ago.

coming from an authoritative source (you) i'll accept is
as totally correct .. an active market of 50k+ people !
that's a very very high figure .. given the leaps and
bounds of technology .. and many have more than one ?
.. THAT speaks volumes for the usefulness of the Lx !


> other place for many many such machines is in laboratories.
> medical, physics, and inside companies that do things with
> them, have them control various other machines etc.

TELL ME ABOUT THESE ! Please .. have them 'control'
other machines .. my local computer club has a member
who is adamant about NOT selling his Lx200 to me ..
uses it to do PLC configureing thru the com port .. on
the machines of many of his clients .. and another one
not willing to give up a Dos machine which fits his
back pocket ..

CALLING ALL GUYS ! while it IS a very good idea
for all us geniuses doing good things  :-)  would
it hurt anyone if we can somehow locate these
users and users and users .. and look into the
reasons for the non-extinction of GOOD things
like the LX ! its a god sent opportunity for us to
study this phenomenon and ensure that it is made
to happen intentionally, with planning, and deliberately
rather than by chance. As it has happened .. without
anyone planning for it to be this way .. i don't
recall another product service similar to this
besides the telephone, tv and bicycle (any car ..
maybe)

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:19 AM
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> This is true. A friend of mine who worked for a Certain Large
> Company said that he could requisition them as "office supplies".
>   I'm not sure if he actually used it though. Bryan


AND ? is he still around ? more important .. r
the machines still around .. go after him Bryan !

:-)

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Subject: Re: Okay, so what is the big deal about the 200LX ?!?


> Even so, it sounds to me like it they are similar
> enough NOT to justify the (upto) 400% increase in
> price of the 200LX over the 100LX on EBAY.

Ah ! price is a consideration .. 4 times more ?
the price - utility relationship has killed
more good things which did otherwise
deserve to live .. can't everything good be
free .. like the sky, sea, air, water, sunshine,
rain, snow, mountains .. i could go on and
on ..

but then humans are not god ! isn't it ?  :-)

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>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:10 AM
>Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx


>I find myself agreeing with most bits and pieces that everyone
>else wrote in this thread. Including the advice (sane, IMHO)
>that one should stay with the 200LX if there are tangible
>benefits.

I don't agree ! i angree !    :-)
Let's do what Corvallis guys left undone !
improve the good thing !

can't we start a wish list ? what features
could be improved ..

can't thaddeus and others make a better
lx than the one we all proudly and
complainingly have to use .. a lighter one
.. more battery life one .. faster one ..
blacker one .. multimedia one .. usb one ..
printer port one .. bluetooth (802.11a the
better standard 2Mbps ? or more) one ..
cellphone built in one .. bigger keyboard
one .. halfkey board one .. microphone
one .. earplugable one .. sms one ..
gps one .. goodness .. how many
improvements !

(count me in .. india is now a cheap
fabrication joint too .. maybe a taiwan
base is a better idea .. morphey one
is in a limbo ..)

>And then I can take the
>resutls with me and work at a place I like, looking at ocean
>waves, or trees, instead of an office.

we can do that with most others WITHOUT
their being able to do what the lx does ..
i saw a similar look on the face only of
one liberetto user .. and that too for a short
time .. battery life was awful for the
libberetto !


>This is a machine to STAY with - so far no replacements in
>sight - nothing to compete with it in size, simplicity,
>sturdiness, functionality and usefulness.

fully agree .. since the corvallis guys abandoned
it .. now hp is abandoning hp .. so the h's and p's
are doing something .. stopping hp from
going the downhill path like everyone else

Bob .. u do know something abt the
dismantling of the Corvallis team ..
the tragedy .. tell us a bit .. how to
create another OPEN SOURCE team
from that experience .. and Avi .. you
too .. you too know abt the Corvallis
geniuses .. and there are the geniuses
at thaddeus and D&A ..

i AM calling all these geniuses ..
this is a tolerating good forum ..
we all owe it to these good people
to do something to make the idea
of the lx into a permanent thing

.. pk




>And I won't mention the length of battery life <g>...

THAT TOO !  :-)

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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Avi Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:10 AM
>Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx

>Several of the D&A Beta members and others here, are
>surpassing many perceived limitations easily and simply,
>extending the power and usability of the palmtop.
>The best thing to do is listen and encourage these people to
>talk. They are pushing their palmtops through amaing "walls",
>and move on and on. Ask them to tell you what they do

OK ! so here goes .. i AM asking those guys .. thru
you AVI .. tell us all what they do .. the several
members of D&A members ..   how sad i'm not
one of them :-(  





> Helmuth
>with his DataPerfect/WordPerfect etc. faxing, networking, and
>usage of cellphone in conjunction with WWW/LX.

and what more Helmuth ?

>Hans Peter with
>his use of RoboWeb to retrieve information he uses at work
>(right?) to help him stay ahead of competition, and even ahead
>of his own colleagues <g>

and Hans .. what is more that u r doing or have done
that we should know more about ?


>... Buddy users like Fred, Andreas,

Fred, Andreas .. tell us all a bit more .. we
deserve to know .. don't you think ?


>and so on.

yes, the unsung heroes of all times .. its not
the sw for the hp lx only .. its the attitude ..
the philosophy .. the effort .. to make things
smaller .. yet better .. and go far beyond
that last mile ..

calling ALL you guys .. tell us about what
you're upto .. were upto .. and would want
to be upto ..

We are missing out Daniel .. he's a big big
asset .. and a new one .. its rare to find
students of classics .. Daniel's web site
is proof of his dedication to the powers
of lx .. albeit told with the power of
the pentiums :-)  .. well done Daniel ..
the only one that i know of who quickly
got the kudos he deserved from THE
Stefan Piechl ! 

I love and respect this group ..

..pk

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Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:02:19 +1300 (NZDT)

1 day 20h07m27s ago ...
On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:54:52 +0200, David Becher wrote:

> I cannot agree more. I am using NiMh batteries and 2 days
> ago was running them down too below 2.35V (with a pc card)
> and all of a sudden the FAT of my C: drive was all screwed
> up.

Maube consider another brand of NiMH?

But, in any case you have a great backup method :)

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04h54m44s ago ...
On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:31:29 -0800, Questor Jones wrote:

> Is thier anything that does that that does NOT requre
> WWW/LX, HV.EXE, or any other software that is limited
> in it's trial version.

HV.EXE is freeware and does not have a trial version. With HV
you can read web pages on your palmtop. HV.EXE does not require
WWW.EXE. "HV get.htm" from the commandline will display get.htm
on the palmtop.

> I guess what I am looking for is something that works
> like ROBOWEB, but just dump content in Text format
> (and importantly repairs the file names to be 8-dot-3
> compatible).

ROBOWEB will dump HTML into text. It uses H2T.EXE for
converting HTML to TXT. H2T.EXE is Freeware, and runs
standalone. From the commandline "H2T.EXE get.htm get.txt"
will dump get.htm into get.txt. Once you dump it to text I
don't know how you intend to "link" it - it is just separate
text files. Roboweb puts the texts in a single ascii file with
headers containing threading information (a POST/LX inbox).

> I figure theier must be some PC software out there
> somewhere that does this, but I have yet to find it.

Seach on yahoo om "HTML2Text" - there is a company with
precisely this product for Win32 - it also re-links HTML. Uses
a binary state machine. Very fast. Looks an excellent product.
Costs under $100. Just a one-off cost, not monthly or anything.

Also you might get value from www.sitescooper.org. And there is
avantgo - they specialise in providing HTML content that needs
to be synchronised with a handheld. Our palmtop though - need
not be "chained" to a desktop :)

Good luck in your search!

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The card stays readable in a Single speed 200lx without any problem. When I try SRAM card and 10MB HP Flash card it works normally in my doublespeeded 200lx. So the problem is Apacer only and it is really sad. Seems that I have to go back to single speed
200lx.
What error messages I get:

- Filer: Drive not ready
VC 4.0:  Can't read the disk in drive A:

I tried different versions of doublespeed drivers without sucess. Anyway I think card should work without driver.

Radek







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> Seems that I have a BIG problem. I just doublespeeded my 200LX using
>Times2tech crystal. From that moment I cannot acess my 128MB Apacer CF
>card! I quickly looked on their website - no drivers. I didn't need any
>driver until now. Any suggestions?

> I already  had this problem on 200lx which I doublespeeded myself
>using normal 32MHz crystal from radioshack, but I thought it was caused
>by nonstandard crystal. Now with crystal from times2tech with DS31.EXE
>driver installed I have the same problem.

I don't have any answers but some questions that may help others help
solve your problem:

Did you test the card between those different crystals?  Is it possible
the card got messed up in the first crystal test?

Is the card now readable in other devices?

What error or errors do you get?  What happens when you try reading the
card?
I have not heard of the double speed having any affect on cards.

Good luck

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Date:         Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:17:57 +1300
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Whatever happened to that DOS based program Grammatik IV?
Tony.

> Date: Tue 13-Nov-2001 14:40
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> Subject: RE: Dictionary program
>
> Bryan,
>
> I use American Heritage Dictionary v1.000 Copyright 1990-1992. Works
> well and it is fast. I also have the Collins dictionary mentioned

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Do you keep your palmtop in a protective case that keeps out dust?  I'm
interested because I do and I'd like to know if it makes much of a
difference.
Tony.

> Date: Tue 13-Nov-2001 17:12
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> Subject: RE: Keys: Tactile feedback but no electrical contact?
>
> Bingo!
>
> Thanks very much.  I removed the bottom four Torx machine screws and
> wow was it dusty in there!  Some isopropyl alcohol on all the
> contacts, including the (very dirty) keyboard cable connection, was
> all it took.
>
> Thanks all for the suggestions.  Any piece of h/w that is supposed to
> last a long time has got to be easy to repair, too.  Seems like the
> 200LX is.
>

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>snip<  From: "Avi Meshar" ...Long live the HP 200LX Palmtop (and 100LX and OG
700LX and 1000CX)!!! <VBG>

Errr, excuse me guy's (and girls!), just wanted to add 'HP95LX' to the list as
although now very much outdated (and forgotten?) it still does what I need out
of a portable system (and I guess for countless others) and therefore should not
be forgotten.  After all, if it were not for the 95 where would your trusty
100/200's have come from?

Best regards from Nigel R in sunny South Africa :-)

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No, I don't use a protective case; I just carry it in my front right
pocket.

However, after seeing all the dust inside, I've put a piece of invisible
tape over the PCMCIA slot (which contains my Flash card).

I figure I'll need to dust it out every few years or so.

-Mike



On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Tony Kan wrote:
> Do you keep your palmtop in a protective case that keeps out dust?  I'm
> interested because I do and I'd like to know if it makes much of a
> difference.
> Tony.
>
> > Date: Tue 13-Nov-2001 17:12
> > Subject: RE: Keys: Tactile feedback but no electrical contact?

> > wow was it dusty in there!  Some isopropyl alcohol on all the

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Date:         Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:05:29 -0500
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Hi,

from earlier DOS-times I have the "Transend"-package from Messiter
Software {UK}. It includes a fax program with editor, viewer and so on.
It works on the 200LX - just tested sending fax with Dr. Neuhaus-Modem =
28800.
(german version 4.23 from 1992)

I receive faxes from a fax-to-email-service {F2M} in Germany. It sends =
received
faxes as tiff-files. How can I view tiff-images on the 200lx?

Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
lennartz-mi@gmx.net
Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57

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...you may need to tighten the screws which are hidden
under the bumpons at the bottom of the palmtop. That's
what I did.
Fyi, Bulent

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Although I do a complete daily backup of my 200LX like this:
1. Via batch file copy drive_c onto 220mb SanDisk flashcard
2. Via batch file copy drive_d onto the same flashcard
3. Remove card from LX, insert it into laptop and copy entire
   flashdisk to a daily directory, ie LX111301.DIR
4. I keep a 7-day running backup of my LX on my laptop.

My backup scheme is just a carryover from my accountant days
where no one but a fool trusts data to a single repository.

So I was thinking...
LXBackup allows you to create any directory as the repository of=

the backup, ie just type in 111301 for the date and that
directory is created. Now, is there any utility out there that
will scan the drives and make a list of the files with just
today's date? Or, for those who don't do daily backups, files
between a range of dates, say 11.01.01 thru 11.12.01? It seems
like a full backup is only necessary occassionally, but data and=

config files should be backed up daily. To be able to back them
up into a directory by date seems ideal. Hence, all files dated
11.12.01 would be in the directory a:\111201\

Any ideas how to implement this?

Bob Christopher     Littleton, Colorado USA     bob@palmtop.com

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hi,

on 12 Nov 2001 at 20:49 Bryan Biggers wrote about:
Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numb

> > Most machines were sold to companies who gave it to people who
> > many times did not use it at all. So there is probably a huge
> > stash of them in the backs of corporate drawers <g>...
> >
>
> This is true. A friend of mine who worked for a Certain Large
> Company said that he could requisition them as "office supplies".
>   I'm not sure if he actually used it though. Bryan
>
a friend of me works for the austrian telecommunication company.
They got the HP95, he has still one in use, but with a partly
malfunctioning display. They have been around in larger quantities.
Most of them ruined by people who did not know what they were good
for.

Werner

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Daniel wrote:

> You say the value of free disk space is saved somewhere while toe
> machine isn't switched off.
>
> Could't we try to save this value everytime is is calculated in a
> non-volatile place (DOS drive / file), so it could be retrieved after
> powerdown/powerup with a shorter delay from a file instead of beeing
> totally recalculated from the FAT?
>
> GTX
> daniel

Nan-Shan Chen wrote:

> One the other hand, since I cannot stand wating so long,
> I have always disabled this DOS service already for four
> months. And last night my flash card was finally full. So,
> this approach could be a provisorical solution before a better
> one is implemented (Stefan!). The problem remains that we
> cannot tell the people this be safe although this has not
> caused a problem so far ...  A proof would require checking
> *all* compilers that they do not use this service for making
> critical decision, and the habits of ASM-programmers count
> too ... well, it's almost hopeless  :)   But I'll surely
> keep disabling the 36h until ... Stefan!

Hi Daniel, Hi Rudi,

   I think the proper way to look at this problem would be
to find the location of the "Media Changed" status.  You
could leave function 36H alone.  You would write a program
to force the removable media changed status to indicate
that nothing was changed.  You would then be required to
"mount" and "unmount" the card manually to update the status.
Function 36H would (should) keep track of everything, just
as if you hadn't turned the 200LX off.

   Most programs that I have seen just make the write to
the disk and check for success.  It is much faster and
simpler than making a separate call to find the free space
and then writing.  So function 36H is not used as much as
you might think it might need to be.  What is the experience
of other programmers?

>   Becasue I recall (again, vaguely, sorry)
> that the file allocation strategy DOS uses is to find the first
> free block from the beginning of the FAT and then the next free
> block and so on. (This has little to do with the DOS 36h
> service, but it also causes a major delay of the write-access,
> somehow, also for the first time, the second write seems to
> become must faster.)
> But we cannot experiment ... how? All de-fragmentation
> utilities I know move the used blocks to the beginning of the
> disk.  Well, I also wonder why they do that, and not the other
> way, if I'm right about the allocation strategy of MSDOS
> filesystem.  Any idea?

   I think that a pointer is used to find the first free space,
so that it does not matter if the free space is "up front".  It
should be just as fast no matter where it is.  Even if a search
must be made, it would not cause long delays.  I think any delay
would be caused by MS-DOS trying to keep track of any number of
things.  (Such as:  Is this file redirected?  Are you opening an
already open file?  Is this a valid device to open a file on?
And so forth.)

   Probably your best bet to minimize delays would be to set
BUFFERS=0 and run SMARTDRV.

$ 0.02
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I'm announcing a new freeware program that I've written for the HP 95LX
(drumroll): HR95. It is a "horizontal reader" with some of the functionality
of the great Vertical Reader program, but tailored to the 95LX's smaller
screen. It displays screens of plain text files using the proportional HFN
fonts, so you can get more than 40 characters per line, and it can display a
variable number of lines, depending on the pixel height of the HFN font. It
is command-line driven (meaning you invoke the program with the name of the
text file). You can move forward and backwards through the text and place
one bookmark. When you exit the program, it saves the page information, so
the next time you open the text, it starts at the page you left off at.

It does work on the 100/200LX (but I have not tested it myself, but Daniel
has verified that it at least doesn't crash your 200LX). The main drawback,
besides being command line driven, is that it only displays the standard
ASCII characters between ASCII 32 (space) and ASCII 126 (tilde), so it is
not as useful to European users as it might be. (The main reason I wrote it,
though, is that I did not like the way VR split lines of text -- especially
poetry -- and left out some carriage returns.)

The zip file is 34KB and contains the exe, a readme, and a number of HFN
fonts. I have sent a copy to S.U.P.E.R., but until it gets up there, send me
an email (robert_feldman@jdedwards.com) and I can email you the file.

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> I have played with my J720 for three months now. Since two weeks it is
> sitting in a corner collecting dust. The applications for WinCE
> machines are almost useless if you really rely on a PDA.
>
> The only interesting development will be Linux on such machines (I know
> it is being done for iPAQ's).
>
Check this out: a Palm clone with Linux inside, just US$99.99. Anyone have
this? Does it actually do anything that a PalmOS machine can't?

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>> The phone app is arguably better on the 200LX
>
> AFAIK it is identical between the machines.
>
> BTW, on both machines you can load a better font.
>
>> Also, jet black is cooler on the 100LX imho than olive drab on the =
>> 200LX.
>
> Agree with you there! More disnguished looking. I know several
> people who bought a 100LX just for the case <G>...
>
The black 100LX case is not only cooler, it doesn't seem to suffer the
200LX Hinge Crack Synndrome. Better plastic? different design?

As for the other differences between the 100LX and the 200LX, the following
is from the FAQ ( http://www.hplx.net/faq.faq.html ):

"Q. What's the difference between the 100LX and the 200LX?"

"- Pocket Quicken from Intuit has been added to the 200LX. This is a
limited version of the Quicken financial management software sold for
MS-DOS and Windows. It does not use the same file format as Quicken for DOS
or Windows, but if you buy the 200LX connectivity kit, you can share data
with the full DOS or Windows version of Quicken (Windows version through
3.0). Pocket Quicken Connect, if you can find it, will allow you to share
data with newer versions of Windows Quicken. Like the 100LX, the 200LX can
also run the full version of Quicken for DOS, which is more powerful but
not as convenient
to access.)

"- The DataComm application is faster in the 200LX. It can pretty much keep
up with a 9600 or 14.4 modem. The painfully slow DataComm application was a
notorious deficiency in the 100LX, so this is a welcome fix.

" - The case has changed color, from the black 100LX to a slate grey color
for the 200LX. The keyboard layout has changed slightly, in order to give
Pocket Quicken its own dedicated key. The labels on the keycaps have a
slightly different, italic, look to them.

"- The default topcard (picture displayed when the machine is turned on,
and the system manager is running, but no apps are yet activated) looks
different.

"- There is an extra megabyte of ROM (3MB in the 200LX, vs 2MB in the
100LX). This is how they managed to add the new built-in software to the
200LX without deleting any of the old 100LX features.

"- There is a power-on "global" password feature.

"- Some extra goodies have been added to the d:\bin drive (in ROM). Hearts
& Bones and Lair of the Squid are two games that are included. A
hexadecimal calculator is also included.

"- LapLink Remote has replaced the redirector for use with the connectivity
pack.

"- The appointment manager has a daily pop-up message reminding users of
"to do's" and appointments.

"- The on-line help has been improved.

"- The phonebook can present phone and address details in "business-card"
or the 100LX-style "form" format.

"- Support for flash cards is improved.

"- Hardware is much more easily upgradable."

Bruce in Toronto

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HP Staber Wrote:
> I have played with my J720 for three months
> now. Since two weeks it is sitting in a corner
> collecting dust. The applications for WinCE
> machines are almost useless if you really rely
> on a PDA.
>
> The only interesting development will be Linux
> on such machines (I know it is being done for
> iPAQ's).

When I retired I considered taking up bird watching but instead
I chose linux-devotee watching.  Their cries can be heard all
over the internet.

Now if I can figure out how having linux on a machine with no or
few linux applications written for it will improve said machine,
I'll have learned something new about linux-devotees.

What strange and improbable creatures they are!  :)

Barry

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> Errr, excuse me guy's (and girls!), just wanted to add 'HP95LX' to the
list as
> although now very much outdated (and forgotten?) it still does what I need
out
> of a portable system (and I guess for countless others) and therefore
should not
> be forgotten.

That's right. My 95lx does everything I want a portable computer to do. No
fancy Icons, no colorful WinCe-crap, just a small thing that helps me along
and reminds me of "ye good ole times"tm

regads,
Oliver

P.S.: The only two things that suck on the 95lx are the small display that
makes it almost impossible to use unadapted software and the crippled
graphics (I would love to produce graphics with Qbasic or GWbasic.....)

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Nan-Shan Chen wrote:
> I've just check my C-programs which were compiled by
> Turbo C v2.0. They behave also very well. The C-function
> used was fopen() and fprintf(). But, again, I cannot say
> anything about a e.g. Fortran compiler that I don't know.

I have the source for the TC 2.0 runtime libraries and I used
grep to check for 36h.  That function is only used in the
function getdfree().

That's no guarantee, of course.  Other functions might call some
Dos function that uses function 36h.

I haven't done anything like this for a long time, being
retired.  But it seems to me that an isr to disable that one
function would only be a few bytes long.  The setup code would
be longer but that could be discarded.

All it has to do that I can think of is monitor int 21h and
check for a 36h in AH and if it finds it do an iret and if not,
let 21h do it's thing.

Unless I've forgotten something that shouldn't be more than 40
or 50 bytes and probably less.

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Hi Avi,

On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:03:16 -0800, Avi Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> I have experimented somewhat and have made _some_ connection
> between OB800CT with Win95 and the Palmtop. Here is a summary:
>
> 1. Enabled IR in the Setting. It wants to talk over COM1.
>
> 2. Loaded IR.COM in a DOS workarea in the Palmtop.
>
> 3. Command line input:
>
>    IR oput c:\xyz.pqr    supposed to send the file
>...

Yes, what you did is trying to establish a real IrDA connection.
This fails probably because IR.EXE is meant to talk to phones and maybe
printers, but Andreas said it will not work with every IrDA device,
since it doesn't implement the full IrDA standard.

What Martin Diehl and I are trying currently is to find a way to modify
the vlsi_ir driver (the OB800's Ir chip is a VLSI one) in a way that it
uses plain SIR for communication and thus doesn't use all that IrDA
connection handling and data overhead.

Martin has sent me a first hack, which works for a few bytes already,
then locks the whole OB so that it needs a reset.

But we are still trying. Martin is a very kind person and promised to
spend a little more time with this.

It will probably take some weeks or months more until we come up with a
really working solution. There are more problems that it seems.

I have offered Martin one of my spare 200LXs for testing. We'll see if
he agrees. ;-)

GTX
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Hi Tony,

On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 23:40:00 +1300, Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ> wrote:

> > I sometimes get a timeout error in line 84 of phone.scr when
> > PUTting my phone book. seems that the phone doesn't answer
> > "OK" because the number which is to be transferred doesn't
> > match some rules.  Do you know these rules?
>
> No, but was the text part long?
> Just when putting to the ME? Maybe it's best to write to the
> "SM" only then make the T39 itself transfer the SIM phonebook
> to the ME - a cunning trick<G>

But not suitable if you want to upload more than 100 numbers. I
currently make all my trials with my HPLX phone book, which has about
410 entries with phone numbers. So the way with the card is not doable
for me. ;-)

> Should be OK with or wothout the "+". Maybe the T39 uses a new
> syntax for the "Write Phone Book Entry" command?
>
> This is the phone.scr line -
>
> send AT+CPBW=$n1,"$c2",$n2,"$it"\r
>
> you could try without any $n2

What is this $n2?
I'll try later - just would like to know first what I'm doing.

> Indeed - and my T39 does not support +CSCS (select TE Character
> set)!!!

mine doesn't either. My old Siemens S35 didn't, too.
So maybe it's Nokia specific?

> Oh! I just looked up the PBW on page 108 of that T39 AT command
> list and they explicitly say that for ME writing the T39
> *interprets* the text as lastname,firstname. So, we have an
> explanation for that one :) For SM writing it assumes the
> opposite. Don't ask me why!<G>

:-
Okay, but I sent to ME and I have the entries in the format
Lastname,Firstname. So it should be okay, but it isn't. Strange!

> There might be something tricky about the "+" and the type -
> that's why I suggest leaving out that $n2 above - this forces
> the phone to use its default. BTW its defaults are different
> to the old days in fact, yes there is the problem I think. But,
> too complicated for me to explain. They have a new type of 161
> - we only used 129 and 145 in the script.

That's this "type"?

Thanks
daniel

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Hi Roger

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:06:27 +0800, "R.S." <roger_shea@I-CABLE.COM> wrote:

> Check this site out,
> http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525
> 25252520tech.htm
> But it is very slow.

WOW, what is this?? I cannot read anything of course ;-) Just see the
images.
How did they get the Application manager into that device?
What are the specs?

GTX
daniel


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From another web site I found using Google, The instant Tech PTV-30 was made
around 1995, so, unfortunately, it is no a currently available unit.

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Hertrich mailto:daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE
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Hi Roger

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:06:27 +0800, "R.S." <roger_shea@I-CABLE.COM> wrote:

> Check this site out,
> http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525
> 25252520tech.htm
> But it is very slow.

WOW, what is this?? I cannot read anything of course ;-) Just see the
images.
How did they get the Application manager into that device?
What are the specs?

GTX
daniel


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----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hi

I got the 2. time a 'message' - not an anttachement! - ,
which is very big, and is trying after a while of loading in
the ram to dial to the internet.
It's very difficult to delete.
        1) 'Editing' the inbox
        2) changing sort, this 'virus' is the last and
            can be deleted with the whole folder.

Has anyone made similar experiences?

                Klaus
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It works for me, though I have not made it all do what I want.  I have not
rationalised my contacts adequately yet, and I did manage to swap first and
last names for everyone the other day.  I use the columnar views in Outlook
to make it easy to clean up the data.

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> Check this out: a Palm clone with Linux inside, just US$99.99. Anyone
have
> this? Does it actually do anything that a PalmOS machine can't?
>
Somehow, Lotus Notes munged the URL for the above. (Sorry for the garbage,
folks.) To see the Linux DA, visit:

http://www.linuxda.com/store/infopda.html

Bruce in Toronto

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For translations of web pages from Japanese, try
http://www.worldlingo.com/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html.  The
results I obtained there when I asked it to convert this page
http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%25252525252520tech.htm
to English were (-ahem-) rough, but serviceable.

Alan Striegel

> From: Daniel Hertrich mailto:daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:39 AM
> > Check this site out,
> > http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525
> > 25252520tech.htm
> > But it is very slow.
>
> WOW, what is this?? I cannot read anything of course ;-) Just see the
> images.

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A Sample Batch Driven Backup System For the xxLX

I went ahead and modified a backup program I wrote years ago for=

an accounting firm. Their's was a 7-day rotational system of Sun=

thru Sat taking files from a PC onto various backup mediums like=

tape drives, zip drives and jazz drives.

In the version below I simply implemented SED.exe to create a
directory based on the date, ie 11132001.DIR into which is
copied the complete contents of a Type I, II or III pc/ATA card
(pcmcia) or a cf card. This then creates a simple 2-step backup
for the 100/200 LX.

I've tested the two batch files a few times to rule out any
critical errors. In each instance a total of 2756 files were
copied successfully in each direction.

Anyone who wants these batch files ready-made along with the
required SED program, contact me off-list at bob@palmtop.com
and I will gladly email the BU.ZIP file to you.

NOTE: THIS ASSUMES THAT YOUR PC CARD HAS ENOUGH ROOM TO HOLD
      ALL THE FILES ON YOUR DRIVE C AND DRIVE D ON YOUR PALMTOP.

Here's how it all works.

Step One - ON THE LX PALMTOP:

Place the following batch file on the palmtop pcmcia card's root=

directory. This batch file copies all of the palmtop's Drive C
and Drive D onto the flashcard/cf media (the pcmcia drive E will=

be seen as drive A by the LX)

*****
  @rem BEGIN BATCH FILE THAT RESIDES ON PCMCIA CARD
=09@echo off
  D:\DOS\assign E =3D A
  A:
=09CD\
  if not exist DRIVE_C MD DRIVE_C
  if not exist DRIVE_D MD DRIVE_D
  CD DRIVE_C
  D:\dos\xcopy.exe C:\*.* A:\DRIVE_C\*.* /S /V /E
  CD..
  CD DRIVE_D
  D:\dos\xcopy.exe D:\*.* A:\DRIVE_D\*.* /S /V /E
  @ECHO OFF
=09@ECHO YOUR PALMTOP'S DRIVE C AND DRIVE D ARE NOW BACKED UP
=09@PLEASE MOVE THE PCMCIA CARD TO YOUR DESKTOP OR LAPTOP SYSTEM
  @rem end of batch file
*****

STEP TWO - ON THE DESKTOP OR LAPTOP SYSTEM:
This batch file gets installed in the root directory of the disk=

on the desktop or laptop onto which you want to copy the files
that now reside on the pcmcia card.

NOTE: Requires SED.EXE in C:\LX subdirectory (or change the
directory name inside the batch file to one of your choosing).

This batch file calls on SED.EXE to create a subdirectory based
on today's date, ie 11132001.DIR for Nov 13, 2001. As it creates=

the directory it also creates these files:
TMP      BAT            57  11-13-01 12:28p tmp.bat
CURRENT  BAT            14  11-13-01 12:28p current.bat

This is how the dated directory appears, once created
11132001       <DIR>        11-13-01 12:21p 11132001

NOTE: This batch file assumes you're running Windows 9x on the
desktop or laptop. If not, edit the last line of this batch
file.

****
=09@rem Begin The  desktop/laptop batch file:
=09@echo off
=09echo.|date|sed "s/-//g" > tmp.bat
=09echo set today=3D%%4> current.bat
=09call tmp.bat
=09echo Todays date is %today%
=09if not exist %today% mkdir %today%
=09cd %today%
=09copy c:\lx\*.*
=09\windows\command\xcopy e:\*.* c:\lx\%today%\*.* /S /V /E
  @rem end of batch file
****

Bob Christopher     Littleton, Colorado USA     bob@palmtop.com

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Friends,
I purchased a Greystone Model GS-220M CardDock of eBay recently.  Everything
looked great and installation seemed to go OK.  I just can't figure out why
it won't "mount" my Sandisk cards as drives.
When I open the PCMCIA icon in the systray it shows the card there as a
Sandisk ATA Flashdisk but a drive letter is not being assigned to it.
When I plug in a modem, the modem is recognized immediately as well.  I have
to admit that I haven't rounded up the drivers so that I could test the
modem in the desktop though.
Any hints on what I missed.  Oh yes, OS is Win ME (YUCK).
Thanks,
bob

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Hi Steve,

>    I think the proper way to look at this problem would be
> to find the location of the "Media Changed" status.  You
> could leave function 36H alone.  You would write a program
> to force the removable media changed status to indicate
> that nothing was changed.  You would then be required to
> "mount" and "unmount" the card manually to update the status.
> Function 36H would (should) keep track of everything, just
> as if you hadn't turned the 200LX off.

I just love the two words "mount" and "unmount"! My feeling
is that too many automaticity (sp?) bring trouble.
(I've been trying to spread my idea of changing all
Microsoft Windows execution-access to a file to a
*triple-click*, but no one seems ot be interested ...
I have been claiming that it be a mistake from the
beginning that Windows does not differntiate read/write-
access from execution-access, because the homo sapiens
is simply not yet in the position to ignore the diff.
between them and replace them with a single concept
called "open" ... :( but it's irrelevant now and I'm
carried away ...)
But, on the other hand, they're using so-called auto-mounter
nowadays too on UNIX boxes. I think I would be interested
in trying that. I'll be highly appreciated if any technical
details are directed to me in any way! Hmmm. would it be
a fixed address? and ... would it be easy ...? Since the
palmtop initializes a bunch of things on powering on/off,
so I'll have to hook to the power-on signal. I've never
communicate with the card servicce yet, but I know at least
Stefan and many more are at home about this if it is
necessary.

And wait a second. I've tried something today while I
was drinkin my Coffee. That's about the reloading of
COMMAND.COM which has been conformed by Russ in another
post.  I started PCMATLAB v3.5 on my palmtop because I thought
it is big and should overwrite the shell. But it did not.
That is, the "saved information" of free disk space did
not get lost after loading and quitting MATLAB. Then
I started NDD (Norton disk doctor, a very old version).
This one (NDD) overwrote the information, or, at least,
the "36h" needed a re-computation again upon "DIR". So,
we are sure now, not only the media-changed-flag should
be taken care of, but also "this". And this, so far as
I'm aware, has nothing to do with a media-change, because
I merely started NDD, did nothing, and then quit NDD.

This would be important because we'd better have the
TSR *interrupt-driven* rather than "polling" actively
some location regularily by hooking to the timer. What
a waste of CPU-time! The difference would not be so
significant, but it is quite important for me at least
psychologically when hacking a TSR. Hooking to the
power-on/off could be made interrupt driven (I recall
having seen such a hook on the Developer's Guide).

>    Most programs that I have seen just make the write to
> the disk and check for success.  It is much faster and
> simpler than making a separate call to find the free space
> and then writing.  So function 36H is not used as much as
> you might think it might need to be.  What is the experience
> of other programmers?

I think I'll have to repost the question again to an
assemler-programming group on Usenet. I've posted once
to
        comp.lang.asm.x86

but I could not found it again on

        http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search
   (best Usenet search-engine I know! Don't worry, no Ad's!)

I got the impression that this group is moderated. Maybe
my article never have shown up in the group. So, it'd be
worth trying it again.

>    I think that a pointer is used to find the first free space,
> so that it does not matter if the free space is "up front".  It
> should be just as fast no matter where it is.  Even if a search
> must be made, it would not cause long delays.

 (... snip, so that I won't have to split the post again!)

Yes, yes. I think you're right. I'm slowly refreshed, that
the directory entries contain pointers to, ..., one-directional
linked list in FAT (?). Now, that's for read-access of an
existing file.  What about a file-creation? I mean, how does
a new file get allocated? I thought that DOS scanned for one
free block. But you mean a pointer is used? Wait, are the
free blocks also linked as a list? And where are the pointers
saved.

>    Probably your best bet to minimize delays would be to set
> BUFFERS=0 and run SMARTDRV.

Steve, could you please do a review on the use of "BUFFER"?
I've never undertsand that and just have some number there
in my config.sys :( And smartdrv, have you tried that?

Rudi

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Grammatik and its maker, a company whose name I escapes me at
the moment, were purchased by WordPerfect Corp. in about 1993.
Wordperfect later merged with Novell (about 1995?), and then
most of the WordPerfect products were later sold off to Corel
(in about 1998?), who now makes WordPerfect. Grammatik is still
included in WordPerfect for Windows as the grammar-checking
facility in the famous word processor. DOS versions are no
longer sold, but may be available at stores that sell older
software and at on-line auctions like eBay. I'm pretty sure that
WordPerfect/DOS is also Y2K compliant, as long as you use
4-digit years.

Regards,
Richard

Tony Kan wrote:

> Whatever happened to that DOS based program Grammatik IV?
>
> Tony.

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Steve wrote:

> I think the proper way to look at this problem would be
> to find the location of the "Media Changed" status.

I'm already searching for it. Mack should probably know
where to find it with his knowledge about the C: drive.
Mack, are you listening?

The idea to keep the free disk space at a separate place and
feed it to every (dummy) call of the 36h function does not
convince me, because the value will be false after the first
copy or delete command. Then I prefer to see just 0 bytes free
as a reminder, that the value is not true.

> Most programs that I have seen just make the write to
> the disk and check for success.

So do I

Stefan

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> I have the source for the TC 2.0 runtime libraries and I used
> grep to check for 36h.  That function is only used in the
> function getdfree().

Baryy, It's exciting to hear that! Thanks! ;) But where did
you get the source from? I thought that Borland just abandoned
the binary. Have you worked for them?

> That's no guarantee, of course.  Other functions might call some
> Dos function that uses function 36h.

> I haven't done anything like this for a long time, being
> retired.  But it seems to me that an isr to disable that one
> function would only be a few bytes long.  The setup code would
> be longer but that could be discarded.

> All it has to do that I can think of is monitor int 21h and
> check for a 36h in AH and if it finds it do an iret and if not,
> let 21h do it's thing.

> Unless I've forgotten something that shouldn't be more than 40
> or 50 bytes and probably less.

Yes, I agree. In fact, I'm always aware of you while I was
lurking around. :)   But no, I did not intend to use a 3KB-TSR
(IC.COM) for this sole purpose, but it is made
general purpose capable of any (exept few special ones) interrupt
and some more registers and more features, unloadable, using
multiplex, multi-copy installable. ....
It's also usable for disabling some annoying message from the
palmtop.  I'd better make some more AD since I think it is a
very useful utility for myself. But I hesitate to post it to
super because I'll have to write more warnings than the actual
doc's. :) But, it does not worth for ASM-programmers to write
such things again just for some tests, becasue it's already
there, and importantly, debugged (while one never knows! :).
Nothing new but comfortable user-interface for myself.
Oh, yes. The most annoying part of such things is *always*
the parsing of the syntax, options, command-line arguments,
numbers. But I've used only hexa for input.

I've even made a flow-chart. Don't know from where I've
stolen the time for this ...

               ===============
               | ISRXX Entry |
               +-------------+
                     |
              ------------------   No
             ( Is TSR enabled?  )----->-------------+
              ------------------                    |
                     |                              |
              ------------------------   No         |
             ( Are Register and Port/ ) -------->---|
             ( Hornet values matched? )
              -----------------------               |
                     |                              |
              -----------------   Yes               |
             ( /s (silence) ?  ) ------>-+          |
              -----------------          |          v
                     |                   |          |
               +--------------+          |          |
               | Click Buzzer |          |          |
               +--------------+          |          |
                     |                   |          |
         No   -------------------        |          |
     +<------( /f (flip video)?  )<------+          |
     |        -------------------                   |
     |               |                              |
     |         +--------------+                     |
     |         | Flip Video   |                     |
     |         +--------------+                     |
     |               |                              |
     |        -----------------   No                |
     +------>( /a (alarm) ?    ) ------>-+          |
              -----------------          |          |
                     |                   |          |
               +--------------+          |          |
               | Int 4Ah      |          |          v
               +--------------+          |          |
                     |                   |          |
         No   -------------------        |          |
     +<------( /e (Send EOI)?    )<------+          |
     |        -------------------                   |
     |               |                              |
     |         +--------------+                     |
     |         | EOI -> 8259  |                     |
     |         +--------------+                     |
     |               |                              v
     |        ----------------    No          -------------- No
     +------>( /t (Trap) ?    ) ------>----->( /n (set AL)? )--->--+
              ----------------                --------------       |
                     | Yes                          |              |
               +------------+                 +--------------+     |
               |    IRET    |                 |   AL = 1     |     |
               ==============                 +--------------+     |
                                                    |              v
                                                 +-------+         |
                                                 | Chain | <-------+
                                                 =========


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Bob Penick wrote:

 yes, OS is Win ME (YUCK).
> Thanks,
> bob

Maybe you don't have a free interrrupt for the drive. Bryan

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Hi Akio,

This came up before. Dr Nathalie Bugeaud, M.D., France, enlightened me,
and I passed it on to the list in August of 2000. Her instructions from
that e-mail are pasted in below.

Take a bow Nathalie

Richard


Nathalie wrote:

"everything works on the LX, just try
Fn r  (followed by the letter on which you want the acute accent)
Fn t   (  ditto ........................................... ditto  the
grave accent )
Fn e )
Fn a )  these give the accented letters directly
etc
Fn u,  the 2 points ( diaeresis); Fn i,  the tilde
Fn y e (for the circonflex on e)
Fn y a             ditto
Fn y i               etc.
Fn y o
Fn y u

(And, re Windows French keyboard)
ok, to get the circonflex you have to use the "" next to the "p" once
and then the letter
(eoau)
to get jtb{ j b
the single  is ctrl+alt+9

have fun,

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Since I gave up using Nicads and NiMH's over a year ago I haven't had a single crash. I leave the LX plugged in when I'm at home to save the AA alkalines. I
never have to worry about the voltage which probably caused the many crashes and many hard resets I had with NiMH.

Richard

David Becher wrote:

> Avi Meshar writes:
> > At 11/10/01 +0100, you wrote:
> > >I use NiMHydrid batteries from Thaddeus. Their peak level is around
> > >2.75 V and I run them frequently down to 2.1 - 2.2 Volt's.
>
>
> I cannot agree more. I am using NiMh batteries and 2 days ago was running them down too below 2.35V (with a pc card) and all of a sudden the FAT of my C:
> drive was all screwed up. For the first time evr I did a hard reset, and typed
> "Y" to reinitioalise drive C.

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Hi Michael

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:05:29 -0500, "M. Lennartz" <lennartz-mi@GMX.NET> wrote:

> from earlier DOS-times I have the "Transend"-package from Messiter
> Software {UK}. It includes a fax program with editor, viewer and so on.
> It works on the 200LX - just tested sending fax with Dr. Neuhaus-Modem 28800.
> (german version 4.23 from 1992)

would you mind sharing this piece of software?

> faxes as tiff-files. How can I view tiff-images on the 200lx?

With the view.exe program which comes with bgfax (on SUPER).

GTX
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Hi Bruce

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:15:03 -0500, Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM> wrote:

> The black 100LX case is not only cooler, it doesn't seem to suffer the
> 200LX Hinge Crack Synndrome. Better plastic? different design?

oh well....
unfortunately it does.
I have a 100LX here which shows first signs of the hinge crack.

Sorry if I disappoint the 100LX fans.

GTX
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Hi Klaus

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:31:15 +0100, Klaus Reinhardt <K.Rdt@TU-BERLIN.DE> wrote:

> aaaaaaaaaa
>
>         aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>
>                 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

_VERY_VERY_ interesting!

You asked me to send a test message from my Linux Netspace Messenger
and I did so about one hour ago.
It didn't appear here.

So this seems to be the source of your problems, your message written
with kmail arrives.

Are here others using Netscape Messenger version 4.77 or 4.67 for
posting to the list? Windows or Linux versions? And known problems?

GTX
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Date:         Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:33:31 -0800
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David Becher wrote:
> >I wrote
> > >HP Staber wrote
> > >You must not be paranoid and you have to save your work frequently =
when
> > >you do this though :)
> >
> > It is not paranoia, that is reserved for those people who constantly =
follow
> > me <VBG>. In the case of low batteries, it is anxiety, as I wrote. I =
am
> > simply uninterested in losing data, and the exciting life one leads =
chasing
> > old data to restore etc. I'd rather get my excitement in other ways.
> >
> > Thanks for the advice to save, frequently, but you forget my middle =
name
> > "Avi BACKUP Meshar"! It is like preaching to the priest <g>
> >
>
> I cannot agree more. I am using NiMh batteries and 2 days ago was =
running them down too below 2.35V (with a pc card) and all of a sudden =
the FAT of my C:
> drive was all screwed up. For the first time evr I did a hard reset, =
and typed
> "Y" to reinitioalise drive C. I then restored it all from the zipped =
backup on
> drive a:(after changing batteries). Total lost time: 10 minutes. Total =
lost
> info: one new phone number in the address book -which I had written =
down
> anyway.

You are VERY lucky the loss was not more extensive. Maybe not,
though! Your backup is good to minimize the losses.

> David (Gibuy) Becher

For those of you who do not speak Hebrew as fluently as David
and I, "gibuy" in Hebrew means "backup" <g>...

I learned my early IT skills in Israel, the hard way - losing
data left and right. Then, magically, I was introduced to
gibuy - what a concept! <g>...

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HP Staber wrote:
> David Becher wrote:
> > Avi Meshar writes:
> > > At 11/10/01 +0100, you wrote:
> > > >I use NiMHydrid batteries from Thaddeus. Their peak level is =
around
> > > >2.75 V and I run them frequently down to 2.1 - 2.2 Volt's.
> > >
> > > Too dangerous. Sorry, I think this not good advise, Hans-Peter. =
We'll have
> > > a bunch of people losing data now because they push batteries waaay =
too low.
> >
> > I cannot agree more. I am using NiMh batteries and 2 days ago was =
running them down too below 2.35V (with a pc card) and all of a sudden
> the FAT of my C:
> > drive was all screwed up. For the first time evr I did a hard reset, =
and typed
> > "Y" to reinitioalise drive C. I then restored it all from the zipped =
backup on
> > drive a:(after changing batteries). Total lost time: 10 minutes. =
Total lost
> > info: one new phone number in the address book -which I had written =
down
> > anyway.
>
> That reinitialising is not necessary. If you do a hard reset you should
> type NO or if you can't read because of the missing speed driver just
> hit Alt-Ctrl-Del and the machine will reboot as usual.

That is not correct. David said the C: drive FAT was corrupt.
That means rebooting will most likely hang up because the
machine cannot find where the files and drivers are. You can
easily check to see: If a DIR shows you have a huge amount of
space of the drives - oh, in the gigabyte range - your FAT is
mooshed and toasted. A plain reboot will get you nowhere.
Restoration of the C: drive, drivers, files and so on is in
order.

  Avi M.


>
> HP Staber/Salzburg
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Hi Steve,

I just finished one life cycle of Lithiums on my main palmtop,
measuring with ABC/LX. Indeed I got 58 hours on the battery
using ABC/LX to count (yes, it matches with Buddy... authors
cooperated.)

I then tried something. I want to start with a


                        WARNING!!!

            It is dangerous to do what I did. This
            can cause the batteries to EXPLODE with
            damages to anything around them:
            Palmtop, person(s), furniture etc.

I tried to charge these batteries using the trickle charging
setting in the Palmtop. The palmtop remained relatively cool,
as did the batteries. The cycle of recharging took about 1-2
hours and voltage went from 2.40V or even lower, to 3.30V.
Once the adapter was disconnected, the voltage dropped almost
immediately to 3.03V or so, then started declining. Each time
I charged like this, I got anywhere from 50 minutes to about
70 minutes of additional service. All in all over three or so
weeks, I went through multiple such cycles. The total time on
batteries measured by ABC/LX was about 175 hours, in
increments of 50 to 70 minutes for each trickle charge cycle.

This lends _some_ credibility to the belief that lithiums can
be recharged. I am sure they cannot be recharged with the
palmtop, and need some specialized device. Besides, I am not
sure if the little bit of additional time (even if one hour)
is worth it.

I noticed that the drops in voltage to the point of
uselessness were rather precipitous after recharges. In fresh
batteries I can usually count on one hour when the voltage
reaches 2.45V. But with recharged batteries, there is only
about 15 minutes before tha batteries are not useful anymore
(the palmtop shuts down.)


Again:

                        WARNING!!!

            It is dangerous to do what I did. This
            can cause the batteries to EXPLODE with
            damages to anything around them:
            Palmtop, person(s), furniture etc.

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The TDK is likely to work. I use a 33.6 TDK and it works fine.

I know nothing about Kernel. You can easily try it: Put the
modem in and if the screen begins to darken or the palmtop
won't turn on, then the modem draws too much. This is not an
exhaustive or perfect test. Many modems draw little when not
in use and beyond what the palmtop can supply when ACTIVE.

  Avi M.

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Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:43:55 +1300 (NZDT)

05h05m19s ago ...
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:38:36 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> 410 entries with phone numbers. So the way with the card
> is not doable for me. ;-)

Oops I forgot about the card limit :(

> > send AT+CPBW=$n1,"$c2",$n2,"$it"\r
> >
> > you could try without any $n2
>
> What is this $n2?

I don't know I just read about it in a book<G>. Don't have my
T39 AT PDF file here at the moment. $n2 is normally a number
denoting the type of the phone number.

send AT+CPBW=$n1,"$c2",,"$it"\r

That might work - otherwise we need to change the phone.scr

> > Indeed - and my T39 does not support +CSCS (select TE Character
> > set)!!!
>
> mine doesn't either. My old Siemens S35 didn't, too.
> So maybe it's Nokia specific?

Also T39 doesn't do text SMS. Actually there is a +CSCS.

> > - we only used 129 and 145 in the script.
>
> That's this "type"?

Phone number type I think. They seem to have 3 types with weird
numbers like 129,145,161! One type has the + in front. One
doesn't<G>. I don't know what the other type is, but it's in
the AT PDF under AT+CPBW

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Date:         Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:18:53 +1300
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I apologise if I sound a bit ignorant here but I haven't used NIMH batteries
before.  So are you saying that its difficult to get sufficient warning when
to charge them in order to avoid crashing the palmtop?
Cheers
Tony.

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Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2001 9:43 a.m.
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Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries?


Since I gave up using Nicads and NiMH's over a year ago I haven't had a
single crash. I leave the LX plugged in when I'm at home to save the AA
alkalines. I
never have to worry about the voltage which probably caused the many crashes
and many hard resets I had with NiMH.

Richard

David Becher wrote:

> Avi Meshar writes:
> > At 11/10/01 +0100, you wrote:
> > >I use NiMHydrid batteries from Thaddeus. Their peak level is around
> > >2.75 V and I run them frequently down to 2.1 - 2.2 Volt's.
>
>
> I cannot agree more. I am using NiMh batteries and 2 days ago was running
them down too below 2.35V (with a pc card) and all of a sudden the FAT of my
C:
> drive was all screwed up. For the first time evr I did a hard reset, and
typed
> "Y" to reinitioalise drive C.

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Nigel Rotherham wrote:
> Errr, excuse me guy's (and girls!), just wanted
> to add 'HP95LX' to the list as although now very
> much outdated (and forgotten?) it still does what
> I need out of a portable system (and I guess for
> countless others) and therefore should not be
> forgotten.

For programming the keyboard is much more logical on the 95lx
than the later models.  It's far easier to use in Dos.  The
problem is the screen size.

I once started writing a screen driver that programs could use
to make the 40x16 the natural size of the screen.  Forget all
that windowing nonsense.

In the back of my mind was the idea to use that driver to write
an editor and debugger that also treated the screen line a 40x16
screen.  Then I got a 100lx and that all got abandoned.  Oh
well. :)

I still keep thinking one day I'll do my own complete
development system on the 95 starting only with debug and
building it from scratch.  I once saw an assembler that worked
by redirecting things through debug, which it ran in a shell,
translating labels to addresses as it went along.  An entire
development system could be built around that principle.

I guess at this point I'm not too likely to ever do it.  But who
knows. :)

Barry

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I use Lithiums, but only in winter.  Early in my LX ownership I forgot and
left my LX (loaded with alkalines) in the car on a fairly cold night.  I had
to go back to my last backup the next day!  The alkalines recovered when
warmed up.  The data didn't!  The Lithiums continue to produce most of their
power near or below 0 degrees (Farenheit anyway).
And yes it does get kinda cold here in South Carolina some winter nights!
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Oliver W. Leibenguth wrote:
> The only two things that suck on the 95lx
> are the small display that makes it almost
> impossible to use unadapted software and
> the crippled graphics (I would love to
> produce graphics with Qbasic or GWbasic.....)

I played around with GWbasic on my 95lx when I first got it.
Maybe with Qbasic, too, but I'm not sure now.

In any case it shouldn't be hard to write an assembly module to
pass control to int 5Fh to use the built in 95lx graphics.

You wouldn't be able to use the Basic graphics, which are more
powerful.  But you could still do a lot.  And new graphic
features could also be added to that module.

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The connectivity pack does look and feel like the LX except that it does not
"wake up" a machine or run an alarm if it is not loaded.  It also will not
run for me as a window so that I can minimize it and work on something else.
It includes Filer, Appointments, Phonebook, Notetaker, Database, Memo,
Setup, HPCalc, DOS prompt, & Xlate/merge.  It does not include Lotus 123,
Quicken, World Time, Datacomm, Laplink, cc Mail, or Stopwatch, but it will
allow you to add new icons so that you can add other applications to the
taskbar.
Thaddeus usually has a copy and it shows up on eBay somewhat regularly.
Hope this helps,
bob
LOL - My spellchecker thought "HPCalc" should be "Phallic"

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> Does the connectivity pack emulate the HPLX's System Manager as well as
have
> the DOS versions of the built-in Apps.
>
> I mean when you run the Connectivity Pack on a Desktop machine, does it
look
> just like the HP LX palmtop, with all the icons, etc?
>
> Also, If you run it on a portable machine, do the alarm cause the machine
to
> turn on so they work?

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              MiniNote 386
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I actually have one of these that I may be putting up for auction soon.
(MiniNote 386 & AC Adaptor- also runs on 4AA Baterries, Runs DOS 5.0)

Unless of course, someone gives a really good offer for it.

(But it doesn't have the LX apps running on it, that will be left upto the
buyer).

http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%25252525252520tech.htm


> -----Original Message-----
> WOW, what is this?? I cannot read anything of course ;-) Just see the
> images.
> How did they get the Application manager into that device?
> What are the specs?
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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The machine is too big compare to HP200LX, it has almost the
same hardware spec as HP200LX.
Here are the details:
CPU              V30 7.16Mhz=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1=
@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@.
Memory ROM     1.5MB, RAM 2MB
Display         CGA 640 x 200 dot
Keyboard=A1@=A1@     Qwerty 82 Key
Battery         AA x 2 CR 2025
I/O =BC=D0=B7=C7=A1@    Serial & Pararel
OS MS-DOS 5.0
PCMCIA Type 2 x 2
Size 235 x 116 x 31 mm
Weight 600 g
Built-in MS work 2.0 - and thus very little memory left for
user.
Compare to HP200lx, the baterry life is short (I'd bought
one used for 20US), too big, too heavy and no numeric
keypad. Booting process from any memory card is slow.
It has 2 PCMCIA slots - but it doesn't recognize my 8M CARRY
PCMCIA memory card, the 48M Sandisk is ok.
bigger key size - but can't do thumb typing.

The screen you saw is the CPack running on that machine,
according to the author it is slow.

Roger
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From: "Daniel Hertrich" <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications


> Hi Roger
>
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:06:27 +0800, "R.S."
<roger_shea@I-CABLE.COM> wrote:
>
> > Check this site out,
> >
http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525
> > 25252520tech.htm
> > But it is very slow.
>
> WOW, what is this?? I cannot read anything of course ;-)
Just see the
> images.
> How did they get the Application manager into that device?
> What are the specs?
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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hi Klaus,

which Email program do you use?

Werner


On 13 Nov 2001 at 19:10, Klaus Reinhardt wrote:

> ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
> Hi
>
> I got the 2. time a 'message' - not an anttachement! - ,
> which is very big, and is trying after a while of loading in
> the ram to dial to the internet.
> It's very difficult to delete.
>         1) 'Editing' the inbox
>         2) changing sort, this 'virus' is the last and
>             can be deleted with the whole folder.
>
> Has anyone made similar experiences?
>
>                 Klaus
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hi,

On 13 Nov 2001 at 6:05, M. Lennartz wrote:

>
> I receive faxes from a fax-to-email-service {F2M} in Germany. It sends
> received faxes as tiff-files. How can I view tiff-images on the 200lx?
>
that's what I also would like to know! Maybe Stephan knows a
solution?

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hi !

good work

yes, send me the file .. i'll try it out too !

.. pk

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11/13/01 10:23 pm

Avi & All:

  I use a TDK "CyberExpress 3000" 33.6kbps MODEM. You cannot insert w/
  the LX on(immediatly draws too much current and enters "backup
  mode"), but if palmtop is off when card is inserted, all is fine...if
  it only had an "X-Jack"!

  Cheers...AJKind

Avi Wrote:

> The TDK is likely to work. I use a 33.6 TDK and it works fine.
>
> I know nothing about Kernel. You can easily try it: Put the
> modem in and if the screen begins to darken or the palmtop
> won't turn on, then the modem draws too much. This is not an
> exhaustive or perfect test. Many modems draw little when not
> in use and beyond what the palmtop can supply when ACTIVE.
>
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:16:47 +0530, pksharma wrote:

> (I do have an OG700 .. how many others do ?
> and what is an 1000CX ?)

I had one but sold it when I bought the Hp200lx..now I will try to get
another one just for the hell of it :-)

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Hallo,

I don't like the idea redirect the 36h function. It is used to find
existing drives, and when the redirection has a small error, then
some programs will not work properly.

In Turbo Pascal the diskfree-function returns -1, if the drive
doesn't exists. I think, in assembler the function works exactly the
same way. When you set the diskfree-dummy to 0 (zero), then you can't
copy anything to C:. A copy-program should check for free disk space.


> Most programs that I have seen just make the write to
> the disk and check for success.

??? Not a good manner.
But not, if you only want to see, if a drive exists. This solution
doesn't work on read-only drives (CDROM, network-drives with ro-mode).

Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
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----- Original Message -----
Steve wrote:

> I think the proper way to look at this problem would be
> to find the location of the "Media Changed" status.

I'm already searching for it. Mack should probably know
where to find it with his knowledge about the C: drive.
Mack, are you listening?

The idea to keep the free disk space at a separate place and
feed it to every (dummy) call of the 36h function does not
convince me, because the value will be false after the first
copy or delete command. Then I prefer to see just 0 bytes free
as a reminder, that the value is not true.

> Most programs that I have seen just make the write to
> the disk and check for success.

So do I

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Questor Jones wrote:
> Is thier anything that does that that does NOT requre
> WWW/LX, HV.EXE, or any other software that is limited
> in it's trial version.

HV is NOT limited. It is freeware, and always was freeware.
You can download on the desktop, move to Palmtop and read HTML
docs on the palmtop with HV. However, it does not support
Java, Javascript, and so on.

> I respect the efforts of those
> that created those programs, but I shell out $$ every
> month for an online connection and don't want to have
> to spend another $80 so I can use my LX to read web
> content, since it will never have a modem attached to
> it and I will therefore never get the full value form
> the software.

The way you have it set up, it would be indeed a folly to buy
WWW/LX Version 3. BTW, just in case, the $$ are spent once,
not monthly, and you can use (very likely) the connection of
the ISP you use on the desktop.

> I figure theier must be some PC software out there
> somewhere that does this, but I have yet to find it.

There are shareware programs, e.g. NetTamer, and freeware,
i.e. LXTCP and probably others you can set up on the palmtop
to connect to the Internet and download Web content.

Good luck.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Hi Avi,
> > I have experimented somewhat and have made _some_ connection
   ...

> Yes, what you did is trying to establish a real IrDA connection.
> This fails probably because IR.EXE is meant to talk to phones and maybe
> printers, but Andreas said it will not work with every IrDA device,
> since it doesn't implement the full IrDA standard.

Yes, understood. I just wanted to let you know how far I have
gone, and to demonstrate that the two machines _could
potentially_ talk, since they recognized each other. They sort
of did some shaky handshaking <g>...

> What Martin Diehl and I are trying currently is to find a way to modify
> the vlsi_ir driver (the OB800's Ir chip is a VLSI one) in a way that it
> uses plain SIR for communication and thus doesn't use all that IrDA
> connection handling and data overhead.

That is delightful. I am so pleased to see that this continues
as an effort. Thank you and thank Martin.

> But we are still trying. Martin is a very kind person and promised to
> spend a little more time with this.

Agree, he is kind to do this.

> It will probably take some weeks or months more until we come up with a
> really working solution. There are more problems that it seems.

Whatever time it takes, it is welcome.

> I have offered Martin one of my spare 200LXs for testing. We'll see if
> he agrees. ;-)

Should have offered him your spre OB too! <G>...

I will be happy to test what Martin produces, because I could
use such a connectivity. I wonder though, if it would also be
reasonable to do some of the work on the Palmtop too, so it
could talk to other IrDA-capable machines, not just the OB800?

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Nigel,

OOPS!!! Sorry. I did not mean to slight the HP95LX by omitting it.
Just a mistake. I used it once or twice, never owned it. I no
longer own an OG 700LX, but have at least one of each 100LX,
200LX, and 1000CX. Sorry.

  Avi M.

Nigel Rotherham wrote:
> >snip<  From: "Avi Meshar" ...Long live the HP 200LX Palmtop (and 100LX =
and OG
> 700LX and 1000CX)!!! <VBG>
>
> Errr, excuse me guy's (and girls!), just wanted to add 'HP95LX' to the =
list as
> although now very much outdated (and forgotten?) it still does what I =
need out
> of a portable system (and I guess for countless others) and therefore =
should not
> be forgotten.  After all, if it were not for the 95 where would your =
trusty
> 100/200's have come from?
>
> Best regards from Nigel R in sunny South Africa :-)
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Hi Richard,

Your experience with crashes is so diametrically opposite to
mine! I do not have crashes with NiMH or NiCds - almost none.
But also not with Alkalines or Lithiums. What crashes I have
are hardly attributable to batteries. And still, I do not do
any scientific exhaustive power extrication from them, just
apply some common-sense rules to usage, and that's it.

I want to take this opportunity to thank everyone who replied
to my questions in this thread. This has been really
instructive and valuable for me. Thank you all!

  Avi M.


Richard E. McEvoy wrote:
> Since I gave up using Nicads and NiMH's over a year ago I haven't had a =
single crash. I leave the LX plugged in when I'm at home to save the AA =
alkalines. I
> never have to worry about the voltage which probably caused the many =
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pksharma wrote:
> (I do have an OG700 .. how many others do ?
> and what is an 1000CX ?)

It is a 100LX without the applications in ROM.

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Pksharma wrote:
> >I find myself agreeing with most bits and pieces that everyone
> >else wrote in this thread. Including the advice (sane, IMHO)
> >that one should stay with the 200LX if there are tangible
> >benefits.
>
> I don't agree ! i angree !    :-)

ROFL! You seem confused a bit <G>...

> Let's do what Corvallis guys left undone ! improve the good thing !

I believe the Corvallis operation moved to Singapore. They
issued the Omnigo 100, 110, and 120 (I think this is right)
which were interesting, but bombed in the market.

They had all the engineering resources, except the people, but
never really did much with it after the OG 1xx failures until
the WinCEs. What a shame.

> can't we start a wish list ? what features
> could be improved ..

This is old, and TOTALLY frustrating. We have done this
probably 3 times. At one point, I collected several hundred
signatures on a set of fairly stable specs and sent it along
to HP's Singapore people who ignored it. Please not again...

> can't thaddeus and others make a better
> lx than the one we all proudly and
> complainingly have to use

Send an inquiry to hal_goldstein@thaddeus.com ...

> (count me in .. india is now a cheap
> fabrication joint too .. maybe a taiwan
> base is a better idea .. morphey one
> is in a limbo ..)

I was involved with a group of people who were interested in
developing the HP 260LX (our name for the the set of specs we
sent to Singapore). This effort died when the banks in Asia
collapsed several years ago, and never revived.

I am aware of one other person who is doing something about a
sequel and is approaching manufacturing 10 machines just for
himself and some friends. (yes, he has some $$$ to burn
<g>...)

> fully agree .. since the corvallis guys abandoned
> it

Not so. HP abandoned it based on marketing information from
their marketing wonks and the lack of demand. The marketing
machine from Redmond (aka Microsoft) got to them with the
promises of WinCE, then PocketPC.

>.. now hp is abandoning hp

<G>

> Bob .. u do know something abt the
> dismantling of the Corvallis team ..

Realignment of the company. The division making palmtop was
combined with the computer division in Singapore, but most
people who knew about making Palmtops would not leave
Corvallis.

  Avi M.

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pksharma wrote:
> >> 1.75 million HpLx200's sold ?
>
> > I think the correct quote would be 1.75 palmtops of various
> > kinds, not just 200LX.
>
> This is a more reasonably correct estimate !

Maybe not. I have some numbers that came from reliable
sources, but uncorroborated(!) which talk about 2.5m. That
would include all the palmtops until WinCE. So I do not know
really if any of these numbers are right.

> >Most vendors in this market niche
> >compiled a list of many thousand names. In talks with other
> >vendors, we assume the size of the active market now is about
> >50,000 people. Many of these have more than one machine. This
> >number may be a bit high, but it was realistic 1-2 years ago.
>
> coming from an authoritative source (you) i'll accept is

I am only one of several vendors, many (were) much larger than
D&A. So your enthusiastic endorsement of "authoritative" is
unwarranted.

> as totally correct .. an active market of 50k+ people !
> that's a very very high figure .. given the leaps and
> bounds of technology .. and many have more than one ?
> .. THAT speaks volumes for the usefulness of the Lx !

Understand what active means: "Active" means this person
bought something some time ago. It includes people who later
sold the Aplmtop and moved on - but we do not know. It
includes people who do not have palmtops but participate. So
the 50K is probably who we know about, so we call them active.

I think it would be an olympic size leap to conclude that 50K+
people are actively using Palmtops from THAT evidence. I think
that of the list I am talking about maybe half NO LONGER use
the Palmtop. But OTOH I think there are many more thousands
with whom we have no contact (i.e. they are not "active" in
our definition) but they are users of palmtops.

Don't forget too: There are probably thousands more that are
used for various purposes _other_ than personal pdas and
personal computers. So all this says there were many sold,
butwe have no idea how many still in use for personal
productivity purposes.

> > other place for many many such machines is in laboratories.
> > medical, physics, and inside companies that do things with
> > them, have them control various other machines etc.
>
> TELL ME ABOUT THESE ! Please .. have them 'control'
> other machines

E.g. numerical control, controlling various measurements,
cameras, machinery. lights in remote buildings and houses. And
more.

> it hurt anyone if we can somehow locate these
> users and users and users

Too expensive to find them.

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Barry,

IMHO you should have taken up bird watching <g>...

or perhaps programming some decent Linux applications for
various Linux platforms, including PalmPilot-like platforms.

Barry wrote:
> When I retired I considered taking up bird watching but instead
> I chose linux-devotee watching.  Their cries can be heard all
> over the internet.
>
> Now if I can figure out how having linux on a machine with no or
> few linux applications written for it will improve said machine,
> I'll have learned something new about linux-devotees.
>
> What strange and improbable creatures they are!  :)

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Go to BGFAX package, and get the VIEW.EXE from there (there is
another VIEW.EXE from a document viewing package, just to add
to the confusion <g>...) It works well with TIFF files. I use
it regularly to view faxes received as TIFF files from my own
fax service.

  Avi M.

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Sheesh! You guys will never forgive, heh? <VBG>

I did not mean to slight HP95LX, I just made a mistake in
omitting it. Please, not the thumbscrews...

Oliver W. Leibenguth wrote:
> > Errr, excuse me guy's (and girls!), just wanted to add 'HP95LX' to =
the
> list as
> > although now very much outdated (and forgotten?) it still does what I =
need
> out
> > of a portable system (and I guess for countless others) and therefore
> should not
> > be forgotten.
>
> That's right. My 95lx does everything I want a portable computer to do. =
No
> fancy Icons, no colorful WinCe-crap, just a small thing that helps me =
along
> and reminds me of "ye good ole times"tm
>
> regads,
> Oliver
>
> P.S.: The only two things that suck on the 95lx are the small display =
that
> makes it almost impossible to use unadapted software and the crippled
> graphics (I would love to produce graphics with Qbasic or GWbasic.....)
>
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Bruce Martin wrote:
> >> The phone app is arguably better on the 200LX
> >
> > AFAIK it is identical between the machines.

    ...snip huge unnecessary quote...

> "- The appointment manager has a daily pop-up message reminding users =
of
> "to do's" and appointments.

aha! I forgot that one.

> "- The phonebook can present phone and address details in "business-card=
"
> or the 100LX-style "form" format.

Really? Hmmm... I changed my Phonebook on the 100LX a long
time before I got the 200LX and just copied the PDB across,
and never really used the original, built-in phonebook. My
mistake. Sorry. Gee, giant differences, too <g>...

> "- Support for flash cards is improved.

Probably most significant for most users.

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On the Palmtop? Are you sure?

If not on Palmtop, can you please not post it here in the
future? Thanks in advance.



Klaus Reinhardt wrote:
> ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
> Hi
>
> I got the 2. time a 'message' - not an anttachement! - ,
> which is very big, and is trying after a while of loading in
> the ram to dial to the internet.
> It's very difficult to delete.
>         1) 'Editing' the inbox
>         2) changing sort, this 'virus' is the last and
>             can be deleted with the whole folder.
>
> Has anyone made similar experiences?
>
>                 Klaus
> ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! -------------------
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> "- Support for flash cards is improved.

Indeed, I can happily use a Simpletech 48MB card on the 200LX/700LX, but it
is not recignized on the 100LX, which is pretty much Sandisk minded. But
then, even a 95LX can use ye olde SDP5... Sundisk cards, albeit with a veery
special driver.

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Hi Avi

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:50:39 -0800, sponsor@ftel.net wrote:

> Yes, understood. I just wanted to let you know how far I have
> gone, and to demonstrate that the two machines _could
> potentially_ talk, since they recognized each other. They sort
> of did some shaky handshaking <g>...

Yes, physically they are fully compatible, since they both support SIR.
The palmtop as the only standard, the OB as its lowest IrDA layer.

> Should have offered him your spre OB too! <G>...

He has an OB800. This is why he wrote the driver. It is really an
Omnibook 800 specific driver (although it might support all IR chips of
this type, but I don't know in which other machines it is used).
We can be glad that this driver went officially into the linux kernel
(I think since version 2.4.9)!

> I will be happy to test what Martin produces, because I could
> use such a connectivity. I wonder though, if it would also be

Okay, if it is time to do more intensive testing, i'll let you know.

> reasonable to do some of the work on the Palmtop too, so it
> could talk to other IrDA-capable machines, not just the OB800?

That would be of course the ideal solution.
May I take that as an offer, that you ask Andreas to implement full
IrDA on the palmtop? :-)

GTX
daniel

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Nigel Rotherham wrote:
>
> >snip<  From: "Avi Meshar" ...Long live the HP 200LX Palmtop (and 100LX and OG
> 700LX and 1000CX)!!! <VBG>
>
> Errr, excuse me guy's (and girls!), just wanted to add 'HP95LX' to the list as
> although now very much outdated (and forgotten?) it still does what I need out
> of a portable system (and I guess for countless others) and therefore should not
> be forgotten.  After all, if it were not for the 95 where would your trusty
> 100/200's have come from?
>
> Best regards from Nigel R in sunny South Africa :-)
>
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Nigel! you got it right I still have my 95lx,200lx the 95lx has a vety
large fonts thanks to the
240x128 dots.  "if it were not for the 95 where would your trusty
100/200's have come from?"

 agree 100%                   Bob E      RAIN OFF AND ON SAN FRANCISCO

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Oh, what a hellish confusion!

Actually my modem says:

     Series 4000
     Fax/V.34 Modem
     GSM/PCN

     Grey Cell
       Systems

If you want to see EXACTLY what it looks like, use the url:

http://www.greycell.com/Support/tdk4000.html

You can reach it via http://www.tdksystems.com then click on
product support, Europe, then scroll down to Series 4000 etc.

Hence my attribution of TDK to the modem.

As far as power, I use it with my Palmtops every now and then
- it is my back up modem which goes with me evrywhere the
Palmtop goes.

My modem was purchased in the UK. I see the US pages for
tdksystems and there appears a CyberExpress series, but not
3000. I also saw a little comment in the non-USa pages, where
they use "TDK Systems Europe (Grey Cell)" --- looks like a
synonym.

BTW, they say replacement cables can be purchased in several
places, see
http://www.tdksystems.com/usa/naspt/faqs/faq003.htm

Anyway, this is why I said the TDK will probably work.

  Avi M.



Al Kind wrote:
> 11/13/01 10:23 pm
>
> Avi & All:
>
>   I use a TDK "CyberExpress 3000" 33.6kbps MODEM. You cannot insert w/
>   the LX on(immediatly draws too much current and enters "backup
>   mode"), but if palmtop is off when card is inserted, all is fine...if
>   it only had an "X-Jack"!
>
>   Cheers...AJKind
>
> Avi Wrote:
>
> > The TDK is likely to work. I use a 33.6 TDK and it works fine.
> >
> > I know nothing about Kernel. You can easily try it: Put the
> > modem in and if the screen begins to darken or the palmtop
> > won't turn on, then the modem draws too much. This is not an
> > exhaustive or perfect test. Many modems draw little when not
> > in use and beyond what the palmtop can supply when ACTIVE.
> >
> >   Avi M.
> >
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Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
> hi Klaus,
>
> which Email program do you use?

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Tony Kan wrote:
> So are you saying that its difficult to get sufficient warning when
> to charge them in order to avoid crashing the palmtop?

I think not. All my NiMH were hovering around the low battery
for long time, much much longer than any lithium battery ever
did. But apparently Richard has that experience.

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Hi Bob in damp San Francisco (e-mail received direct) and all other enthusiastic
HP LX  users wherever you are!

Thanks for the supportive note (Bob), much appreciated :-)

One of my interests / hobbies is amateur radio and there is a fellow ham who has
developed a very good utility (for amateur radio use) that runs under DOS.  It
works on the 95 with no problems except for the unconventional screen size
(40x16) but guess what?  After exchanging some information, he is going to
modify (enhance) the application for me so that the application uses the 40x16
screen!

Who said that 95 development was dead <very big grin>!

Thanks again for the note, all the best to you and your family and until the
next time, KEEP SMILING!

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Nan-Shan Chen wrote:

> I've never communicate with the card service yet,
> but I know at least Stefan and many more are at home
> about this if it is necessary.

I know something about modem cards, but nothing about memory
cards. In Ray Duncan's:"Advanced MSDOS" book, I found valuable
information about the media change subject.

DOS talks to the card through a device driver. This driver is
the "interpreter" between DOS and the hardware and it has to
do several tasks, one of which is to tell DOS, if the media has
changed since the last call. DOS wants to know this information
if there is a pending drive access. The device driver has a
choice of 3 answers:

1-Disk has not been changed.
  DOS proceeds with the disk access

2-Disk has been changed.
  DOS invalidates all buffers associated with this disk,
  including buffers containing data to be written to the disk.
  Then it reads the disk's FAT and directory again

3-Don't know.
  The action taken by DOS depends upon the state of its
  internal buffers. If data needs to be written, DOS assumes no
  disk change has occured and write the data (taking the risk
  to damage the file structure if the disk really was changed).
  If the buffers are empty, DOS assumes the disk was changed
  and will act like described under 2-.

Ray Duncan states: It can be very difficult for the media check
routine to determine with absolute certainty that the disk has
not been changed. Several methods have been suggested:

- checking a hardware door lock signal

- inspecting the volume id of the disk. But they may not be
  unique or available at all

- evaluating timing constraints. It has been determined that a
  disk cannot be physically exchanged in less than 2 seconds.

Non of this methods is completely satisfactory, for obvious
reasons.

Concerning the 200LX, the device driver is a built in TSR.
AFAIK Mack wrote his own device driver for the times2tech
internal memory upgrade and another for flashcards > 220MB,
because the built in driver could not handle these disks.

To me, this means, manipulating the "media changed" status is
much more complicated than I thought. It either requires to
write a new device driver, or to manipulate the existing one
in ROM.

IRETing from DOS INT21 FKT36h is very simple in comparison.

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Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:

> > How can I view tiff-images on the 200lx?
> >
> that's what I also would like to know! Maybe Stephan knows a
> solution?

I have no solution, but an answer: LXPIC will never work with
TIFFs ;-)

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Bob Penick wrote:
> I purchased a Greystone Model GS-220M
> CardDock of eBay recently.  Everything
> looked great and installation seemed to go
> OK.  I just can't figure out why it won't
> "mount" my Sandisk cards as drives.

Last week my brother bought a Nikon camera that wouldn't install
on his computer through the USB port.  I called Nikon support
and asked if the compact flash card was a standard format and
that if it was we'd go get a card reader.  She said it was but
be sure to check what kind of card it was.  They deliver cameras
with Greystone, Sandisk and one other kind of compact flash and
the manufacturer's name would be on the card.

She also said that the Greystone reader was needed to read the
Greystone card and the Sandisk reader was needed to read the
Sandisk card.  The card was Sandisk and we got a Sandisk reader
and everything was fine.  (at the same time my brother returned
the Nikon for a Kodak.  He'd heard of Kodak but never heard of
Nikon and was sure the real problem was the off-brand camera. :)

I was skeptical of her comment about the brand of the card
matching the brand of the reader but now that you're having this
problem I wonder if she was right.  It might be worth looking
into.

Barry

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  Nan-Shan Chen wrote:

> Hi Steve,

> This would be important because we'd better have the
> TSR *interrupt-driven* rather than "polling" actively
> some location regularily by hooking to the timer.
<snip> Hooking to the
> power-on/off could be made interrupt driven (I recall
> having seen such a hook on the Developer's Guide).

Hi Rudi,

   Yeah, that would be the way to do it.  The power-on and power-
off interrupt is what is needed.  The Drive Parameter Block
returned by function 32H "Get DPB" has the "dpbFirstAccess"
showing if the drive has been accessed and "dpbNextFree" showing
the first free cluster.

> I think I'll have to repost the question again to an
> assemler-programming group on Usenet. I've posted once
> to
>         comp.lang.asm.x86
>
> but I could not found it again on
>
>         http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search
>    (best Usenet search-engine I know! Don't worry, no Ad's!)
>
> I got the impression that this group is moderated. Maybe
> my article never have shown up in the group. So, it'd be
> worth trying it again.
   Again, yes it is moderated, and posts are often lost.
From one of the moderaters weekly posting...

- - -
2. If your posts seem to be disappearing into a "black hole",
 try sending an email copy of your post to
 one or more of the following addresses:

clax86-submit@crayne.org

   This is the direct path to the CLAX86 robomoderator,
 and is completely independent of the process by which your news server
 converts moderated posts to email. Currently, this is the most
 reliable way to post your message.

clax86@yahoo.com

   This is the address from which the robomoderator retrieves
 messages posted to your news server. Unfortunately,
 yahoo has become involved with the anti-spam wars,
 and is not as reliable as it once was.
- - -
> Yes, yes. I think you're right. I'm slowly refreshed, that
> the directory entries contain pointers to, ..., one-directional
> linked list in FAT (?). Now, that's for read-access of an
> existing file.  What about a file-creation? I mean, how does
> a new file get allocated? I thought that DOS scanned for one
> free block. But you mean a pointer is used? Wait, are the
> free blocks also linked as a list? And where are the pointers
> saved.

   The pointer is just to where to start the search.  Unused
clusters are marked as such in the FAT.  Find an unused FAT
entry (cluster) and allocate it to a file.

> >    Probably your best bet to minimize delays would be to set
> > BUFFERS=0 and run SMARTDRV.
>
> Steve, could you please do a review on the use of "BUFFER"?
> I've never undertsand that and just have some number there
> in my config.sys :( And smartdrv, have you tried that?

   Disk access is buffered by MS-DOS when BUFFERS are allocated.
More buffers "tends" to speed up access by allowing larger reads
(and writes) to be buffered in anticipation of future reads (and
writes).  Works best on slow devices like floppies, worst on fast
devices like flash cards.  Haven't done testing in a _LONG_ time,
but performance improves till about BUFFERS=9 then larger values
have little effect.  A disk cache like SMARTDRV.EXE or Lightning
make buffers useless and provided much better performance.

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Nan-Shan Chen wrote:
> I started PCMATLAB v3.5 on my palmtop
> because I thought it is big and should
> overwrite the shell. But it did not.  That is,
> the "saved information" of free disk space
> did not get lost after loading and quitting
> MATLAB.

Dos stores it's data in an area of low memory that never gets
overwritten even if command.com is overwritten.  Command.com
isn't Dos.  It's just the command interpetter.  It's the
interface between you and Dos.  In unix it's called a shell.

Dos itself, and it's data area, are never overwritten, except
possibly during a crash.

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Stefan wrote:
> Steve wrote:

> > I think the proper way to look at this problem would be
> > to find the location of the "Media Changed" status.
>
> I'm already searching for it. Mack should probably know
> where to find it with his knowledge about the C: drive.
> Mack, are you listening?

Hi Stefan,

   Found it in the Drive Parameter Block returned by function
32H "Get DPB".  Documented in "MS-DOS Programmer's Reference"
Version 5.  Now if I knew how to write a TSR...  Maybe this
weekend if I find the on/off interrupt vectors.

> > Most programs that I have seen just make the write to
> > the disk and check for success.
>
> So do I
>
> Stefan

   Thanks for the confirmation.

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Stefan Peichl wrote:
>> I think the proper way to look at this problem would be
>> to find the location of the "Media Changed" status.
>
> I'm already searching for it. Mack should probably know
> where to find it with his knowledge about the C: drive.
> Mack, are you listening?

Either int 13h function 1 or function 16h can be used to
determine the disk change status.  If you want the memory area
itself you should be able to step through that function (or
disassemble it) and locate the address.

Then I'd take a look at the code for int 21h function 36h and
make sure that actually uses int 13h.  It very likely does.

If it does use int 13h you could replace that code with your own
that could check that memory area and then return the answer you
choose.  This should assure that every program gets the answer
you want it to.

However, the LX bios might make further checks after a power
down and if it does it's probably best to let it do it's work.
If a card has been swapped during a power down you sure want to
know it.

I think if I were going to play with this I'd do a careful study
of just how all this works.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:37:37 +0000
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I just found another occurence of the card delay after a
power on event:

If you copy a file from c: to a: after power on, it takes just
as long as a DIR on a:. Every subsequent copy is fast until the
next power on. Copy from a: to c: is always fast. That means,
writing to the card also always checks for the media changed
event, but probably not through INT21h FKT36h. Rudi, can please
check this with your TSR?

If writing to the card uses another service, then the IRET
solution only speeds up the DIR command, but not the general
write access to the card.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:37:46 -0700
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One complicating factor to consider in analysing the time it takes to read a
card's free space is where the card was formatted and under which DOS. I
needed to format a 20MB SanDisk PCMCIA flash card (SDP5-20) on my Win 2000
laptop in order for it to be readable there as well as in my 95LX. When I do
a CHKDSK on the card in the 95LX, I get a number of errors, to the extent
that CHKDSK hangs. A DIR on the card brings up the files quickly, but it
takes an additional _10_seconds_ to get the free disk space (on the first
DIR -- subsequent DIR's take only the initial 1 second). It appears that the
card FORMAT under Win 2000 has done something to the card's FAT that makes
getting the free space much more time consuming.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:15:25 +0100
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-----Original Message-----
----snip-----------------
>Feldman, Robert
>It appears that the
>card FORMAT under Win 2000 has done something to the card's FAT that makes
>getting the free space much more time consuming.
----snip

It may be that W2K uses the card more efficient, and uses smaller allocation
units.
As the LX's check/buffer all the allocation unit info on startup ( hence the
delay) it may take twice as long if it has allocated 1K unit instead of 2K
or 4K.

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Barry,
In this case it is NOT true.  After opening up an IRQ the Sandisk card
worked perfectly.  After reading your email I pulled out an older Pretec 20M
memory card and inserted it.  Win ME had to load some additional drivers
above what was needed for the Sandisk, but they both were visible at the
same time.
I'd try a CF that I have to make sure it works (don't expect any problems),
but I can't find it.  Another reason to keep using the original PC cards -
They don't get lost in a bag or on my desktop like the CF ones do!
Later,
bob - still soundless

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> I was skeptical of her comment about the brand of the card
> matching the brand of the reader but now that you're having this
> problem I wonder if she was right.  It might be worth looking
> into.
>
> Barry

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Michel,

You are right. The "normal" allocation unit for the flash card on the 95LX
is 4096 bytes. The Win 2000-formatted card has allocation units of 512
bytes, so it has 8 times as many.

Bob

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-----Original Message-----
----snip-----------------
>Feldman, Robert
>It appears that the
>card FORMAT under Win 2000 has done something to the card's FAT that makes
>getting the free space much more time consuming.
----snip

It may be that W2K uses the card more efficient, and uses smaller allocation
units.
As the LX's check/buffer all the allocation unit info on startup ( hence the
delay) it may take twice as long if it has allocated 1K unit instead of 2K
or 4K.

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Am Mittwoch 14 November 2001 02:47 schrieb Dr. Werner Furlan:
> hi Klaus,
>
> which Email program do you use?
>
Hi Werner

I'm using Opera 5.02 on W95 b.

        Klaus

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----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hi all(?)

Sorry, if I nerved memers. This group is my main group for years and I usually
got good responses and advices. Perhaps I should have prefeixed my subject
with the OT in the first time, isn't it?

                K@Rdt
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Date:         Wed, 14 Nov 2001 21:04:49 +0100
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Avi Meshar wrote:
>
> That is not correct. David said the C: drive FAT was corrupt.
> That means rebooting will most likely hang up because the
> machine cannot find where the files and drivers are. You can
> easily check to see: If a DIR shows you have a huge amount of
> space of the drives - oh, in the gigabyte range - your FAT is
> mooshed and toasted. A plain reboot will get you nowhere.
> Restoration of the C: drive, drivers, files and so on is in
> order.

You are correct - this was then a misunderstanding on my side.

In such a case you should have a recovery procedure at hand which
reinstall's the memory swap driver and the speed driver (if
applicable) before you panik (and I did panik at least three times in
my palmtop life).


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:06:36 +0900
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Bonjour, Nathalie, Michel, Richard.
 Thanks for your advices about the generating accented
characters.  But I have a small trouble with "Jkit".
When I type Japanese just after the accented characters
the accented characters turn to another characters
unreadable. If I put one bite space it's OK. But Japanese
one space(two bites) causes a small trouble like that.
It's just like  "a drop in the bucket" but I want to
just report.

 Akio

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Date:         Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:19:37 +0000
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There is a new version of PDU, fixing a bug concerning
destination adresses with an odd number of digits. At least
in NZ this seems to be a problem, as Tony Hutchins had to
experience.

The bug is fixed in the new version and Tony contributed a
script which reports errors occurring during PDU as incoming
SMS. This is very handy to get an idea on whats going wrong,
especially for beginners who try to setup PDU as a POST/LX
plugin.

Tony, thank you very much!

In order to make everything work together, I had to change the
configuration for PDU.SCR. It now uses POST.CFG instead of
ROBOT.CFG. This simplifies things a lot. Also the whole thing
is called through a batch file, allowing you to use WWWSET to
configure IrDA automatically.

What does that mean? If you are already using PDU and have a
working setup and never errors, then only replace your old
PDU.COM by the new PDU.COM.

But if you have time and want to have errors reported, read
PDU.DOC and do a complete new setup.

Download from

http://peichl.hplx.net/pdu.zip

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Date:         Wed, 14 Nov 2001 21:44:07 -0000
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Subject:      Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers?

I have been following this thread with some interest and reflecting on how I
became acquainted with the HPLX.  I thought you might find my experience of
some interest and perhaps typical of many others.

My neighbor had won an HP100LX in a raffle drawing several years ago and
really found no good use for it.  In about 1997, upon learning that I was
somewhat of an HP calculator collector (HP35, HP15C, HP41CX, HP71B, HP48GX),
she gave it to me.  At that time I did a little research and found out that
Matlab 3.5 Student version could be hosted on this platform.  Initially, that
got me excited, but because of limited memory and my inability to find that
version of Matlab, I lost enthusiasm, and the HP100LX ended up sitting in
the "back of my desk" for two years.  Then in November of 1999, the style of
Franklin Covey paper planner that I was accustomed to using was discontinued,
so I decided to dig out the old HPLX and organize myself electronically
(smaller in size than the paper planner, and no need to buy refills every
year).  After one week of regular use, I was hooked.

I have since upgraded to the HP200LX (primarily for the filer.ini
capability), thanks to Robert Hocking.  I bought the Times2Tech speed upgrade
kit, thanks to Mack.  I found Matlab 3.5, thanks to Barry, and have a 160MB
SanDisk about a third full of ebooks.  After loading the Scriptures onto the
LX, I got tired of the long search-times trying to find a verse, so I
compiled a GDB-based Topical Guide that is very fast.  I love it when another
engineer flippantly remarks that I should get rid of the old technology and
electronically move into the 21st century - by the time I have plotted a few
FFTs in Matlab, the individual has begun salivating.

What I find remarkable is that what once sat in my drawer for two year
because of my lack of vision to see the possibilities, has now become my
constant companion (and it doesn't throw my back out of alignment carrying it
around).  I guess the secret to mining the "goldmine" is that once you
encounter somebody who has an LX and is clueless about its utility, try not
to act too excited while you're endeavoring to talk them out of it.  They
might decide that there is more to it than meets the eye, and just decide to
keep it. ;-)

Thanks to all of you whose contributions to this community have kept this
wonderful little machine alive and have vastly extended its utility.  Sorry
to have gotten carried away with the length this posting, especially for
those of you concerned about bandwidth. ;-)

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Date:         Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:44:55 -0800
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Yeah, I remember when I begged for it before (2 years ago?)
Your explanation was that there appear to be many ways to
format TIF files, and no one standard way, which makes the
code grow in size.

I thought that it would be a shame to blow up LXPIC from its
tiny dimensions to something large just to accomodate one
functionality (display TIF files). It made sense then (and
now). Thanks for all you have done for all of us.

  Avi M.

Stefan Peichl wrote:
> Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
>
> > > How can I view tiff-images on the 200lx?
> > >
> > that's what I also would like to know! Maybe Stephan knows a
> > solution?
>
> I have no solution, but an answer: LXPIC will never work with
> TIFFs ;-)
>
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> > reasonable to do some of the work on the Palmtop too, so it
> > could talk to other IrDA-capable machines, not just the OB800?
>
> That would be of course the ideal solution.
> May I take that as an offer, that you ask Andreas to implement full
> IrDA on the palmtop? :-)

I am sure Andreas reads this list, so he knows, but here it
is, just for the formality of it <g>: Andreas, how about
putting together something that will enable the SIR to talk to
IrDA so Palmtops and Notebooks can connect?

I am not sure Andreas will want to tackle this, but it does
not hurt to ask. Even if not, he may be able and willing to
help out to whoever does tackle it. I assume he has quite a
bit of relevant info ehich may come in handy in this project.

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Barry wrote:

> Either int 13h function 1 or function 16h can be used to
> determine the disk change status.  If you want the memory area
> itself you should be able to step through that function (or
> disassemble it) and locate the address.

Unfortunately the palmtop has no INT13h. The SDK says:

| The INT13h service on the HP palmtop provide two categories of
| services, both of which are nonstandard services. HP palmtops
| do not support standard disk services at the INT13H level.
| Instead, custom device drivers are used.

The INT13h sevices on the palmtop concern the ramdisk c:

> Then I'd take a look at the code for int 21h function 36h

I tried to, but the code is so lengthy (and I didn't reach the
end yet) that I gave up. It is hard to understand reassembled
ASM code. I can do about 1-2 KB, but everything above is just
too time consuming. I guess you know the situation being a
programmer too ;-)

> I think if I were going to play with this I'd do a careful study
> of just how all this works.

I totally agree.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:00:03 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries?

HP Staber writes:
> David Becher wrote:
> > I cannot agree more. I am using NiMh batteries and 2 days ago was running them down too below 2.35V (with a pc card) and all of a sudden the FAT of my C:
> > drive was all screwed up. For the first time evr I did a hard reset, and typed
> > "Y" to reinitioalise drive C.
>
> That reinitialising is not necessary. If you do a hard reset you should
> type NO or if you can't read because of the missing speed driver just
> hit Alt-Ctrl-Del and the machine will reboot as usual.
>

I am using a single speed HP200lx with 4mb memory. My drive c: crashed and I
really DID need to reinitialize it. The point I am emphasising is what has
been repeated here so often: There are 3 things you should do to ensure your
data:
1. Backup
2. Backup
3. Backup

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Date:         Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:02:51 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries?

Tony Hutchins writes:
> Maube consider another brand of NiMH?

No they are fine - it was MY fault. Normally when I go away for more than 2
days I put in alkalines. Its just that when I use rechargeables and with ABC/LX
installed, I plug the palmtop in the adaptor and dont worry all that much about
charging. So I neglected to keep an eye on the voltage.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:44:08 +0200
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Tony Kan writes:
> I apologise if I sound a bit ignorant here but I haven't used NIMH batteries
> before.  So are you saying that its difficult to get sufficient warning when
> to charge them in order to avoid crashing the palmtop?
> Cheers
> Tony.

The warning is plenty sufficient - it just helps not to ignore it!

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Date:         Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:36:53 -0600
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I think that if you can lay hands on a machine running Unix, Linux,
Windows 95/98/00, a Mac, OS/2 or VMS, then with a little work you can get
ImageMagick (www.imagemagick.org) going on it.  This package is probably
too big to fit on the LX series.  For example, I see that the convert
program on this Mac takes up 51Meg.  Anyway, ImageMagick is a pretty nifty
graphics package and will (among other things) between about 80 different
file formats.  No exageration!

<snip>
> > > How can I view tiff-images on the 200lx?
                                              Leo
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Date:         Thu, 15 Nov 2001 01:04:19 +0000
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Some of you probably already use MODEM.COM in your SETCOM.BAT
file in order to detect at which comport a modem is connected.

The new version of MODEM is a merge of UART.COM (discontinued)
and the old MODEM.COM. The functionality concerning SETCOM.BAT
is identical. So you may just replace it. But in its verbose
form it is more powerful now. For example on my palmtop with
external modem at COM1 and PCMCIA modem in COM2 it says:

COM1 =2D 03F8 =2D IRQ4 =2D 16450  UART (no FIFO) =2D Modem found
COM2 =2D 02F8 =2D IRQ? =2D 16550A UART with FIFO =2D Modem found
COM3 =2D N/A
COM4 =2D N/A

But the reason why I improved MODEM was my notebook. I have
a Toshiba Portege 300CT with Win95 for some month now.

It has 2 PCMCIA slots, but they are only accessible under
Win95. Booting to plain DOS keeps them out of the play, because
the DOS version of Win95 has no socket and card services
implemented, which are the basis to access the slots.

In a DOS box under Win95, I had no problems with flash cards
in the PCMCIA slots, but a PCMCIA modem was not recognized.
Win95 could use the modem, but I could not in a DOS box.
Win95 has assigned COM5 to the PCMCIA modem, out of the range
for WWW/LX.

But I found out, that Win95 used the base address 02E8h for
COM5, which is usually assigned to COM4 under DOS. But COM4
under DOS was not known because it had the base address 0000h
written in the bios data area.

All I did was writing the base address of COM4 (02E8h) into the
bios data area and suddenly the modem worked as COM4 under DOS.

Therefore I addded the command line switch 'i' to MODEM.COM,
which causes an init of all 4 base addresses in the bios data
area with the default values.

My SETCOM.BAT on the notebook Iooks like:

 MODEM i4>NUL
 if errorlevel 1 goto one
 wwwset "Port=3D4"
 goto end
 :one
 MODEM 1>NUL
 if errorlevel 1 goto end
 wwwset "Port=3D1"
 :end

It works perfect and I have a copy of my whole WWW/LX and
POST/LX setup running in a fullscreen DOS box under Win95.

Download from:

http://peichl.hplx.net/modem.zip

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Now that I have WWW/LX and POST/LX running on the notebook,
I'd like to tell you for what I use it: Several times per day
I download 20 intraday mini charts from yahoo. This is done
through a batch file called from within POST/LX. The batch file
uses GET to download the charts and then goes offline.

Unfortunately the charts have the ugly interlaced GIF format.
I convert them on the fly to BMP using GIF2BMP and then LXPIC
is called in list mode to display all 20 charts on one screen.

In other words: From the desktop I use one mouse click to start
POST/LX in a fullscrenn DOS box. Then I press the 'c' key,
which is a macro starting the batch file I just described.

One minute later I sit in front of a screen with 20 intraday
charts and can watch them without the "online stress".

I cannot think of a better (and cheaper) solution. Two manual
actions and all the rest is done at max speed (115200 baud
indeed for WWW/LX on a Pentium) and best comfort.

I see the WWW/LX suite as a serious competitor in todays
desktop market, if people only needed productivity.

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Bob Christopher wrote:
> Although I do a complete daily backup of my 200LX like this:
> 2. Via batch file copy drive_d onto the same flashcard

Bob,
There is no reason to backup the 'D:' drive.  All that data is
in read only ROM and can't be lost and for the same reason is
impossible to restore.

Cheers... Russ

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> The connectivity pack does look and feel like the LX except that it does not
> ...............but it will
> allow you to add new icons so that you can add other applications to the
> taskbar.


How do you add additional icons/applications to the taskbar and what
applications have you added?  Thanks.

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Warning (for guys allergic to long msgs
and for those allergice to philosopical
sermons) : This msg is best ignored !


>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Avi Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
>To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:20 PM
>Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx


>> I don't agree ! i angree !    :-)

>ROFL! You seem confused a bit <G>...

:-))


To say that i am angry will make others
angry too .. so i have coined the new word -
agree yet be angry = angree (angrily agree)
Tho i am generally in agreement with the
guys (there seem to be no gals here ?), many
many times i feel that just agreeing is not
enough at all .. as some managment guru
once said for an indian company .. total
agreement is BAD for growth .. friendly
conflicts (not enimical conflicts!) are
very necessary for development .. if
not hurting other peoples' feelings becomes
so very important .. we can live happily
ever after .. WITHOUT any growth or
development .. to be NOT satisfied with
the present state of affairs acts as a
catalyst to growth ..
So i have coined the angree (angry
yet agreeing) syndrome ..

This is a very very nice list .. unlike any
other .. and i see lots and lots of them ..
people here are friendly .. tolerante ..
very very decent .. and GOOD .. the last
being the most important ..

This is the thing I am wanting/trying/
compelling everyone to study, understand
and make happen DELIBERATELY and
with planned implementing .. the lx is
NOT ONLY a good product .. it is the
reason for GOOD THINGS to have
happened .. like the many many postings
here prove .. unfortunately i find no
takers or pickers for this thread of
mine .. lots and lots of posts have come
in .. mostly agreeing with the good part
of the Lx but almost none about the
intentional and deliberate replicating
of the PHENOMENON of a rare thing ..
the GOOD thing surving .. the how of
it .. the why of it .. and most important
the planned repeating of this in OTHER
areas too .. like improving the LX ..


so AVI don't only ROFL .. i like that too ! ..
but DO something on the lines i am
repeating and repeating and repeating ..
you are a part of the HAPPENING .. and
the Lx was the reason for it .. but more
definetly more important is the next
step for you and others like you and for
us (users) .. the 2nd generation of Lx ..
graduate from the harware only version
to better hardware, sure, but to the ideas
version of this phenomenon .. the simplicity
MAKES the lx survive and survive .. and
strangely .. NO OTHER product emulated
this characteristic .. the survival design ..
the survival philosophy .. it was not know ..
certainly not planned .. but now, its known,
realised, understood, and so can be studied,
researched, documented (?) and most
importantly : implemented with planned
deliberation

(i certainly am persistent, isn't it ? but
i keep trying .. to get even 1 follower will
be a reward .. till now i am still looking)

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel Rotherham" <nigel@KEEPSMILING.CO.ZA>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: Staying with the 95/100/200lx


> Who said that 95 development was dead <very big grin>!

I keep coming across such opinions all the time ..
it just proves my iterations .. its good by chance
not be design .. it happened .. not intended to
happen .. if it was intended to happen (like the
later CE based machines 300 400 500 600 700
series .. they never 'happened' to survive tho
intended to do so much), it would be a planned
thing .. since it was not planned yet happened to
survive .. we can learn from the history and the
good fit of this series .. the 'long live ' series ..
and try (at least) to replicate it .. with planning
and intention/deliberatelyness   :-D

..pk

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Date:         Wed, 14 Nov 2001 01:25:15 +0530
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gee ! thanks ! 4 sending it sooo promptly !
will try it out .. tell u later abt how i feel

..p;

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              its philosopy and history (which is the proof)
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Avi Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
>To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:20 PM
>Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx

>> Let's do what Corvallis guys left undone ! improve the good >thing !
>I believe the Corvallis operation moved to Singapore. They
>issued the Omnigo 100, 110, and 120 (I think this is right)
>which were interesting, but bombed in the market.

The MARKET ! ugh .. the final RIP place for most good
things .. the newton .. the apple cube .. the conseqence of
the millions of dollars spent in hyping  and then billions
in unhyping the same products (MicroSoft itself now says
Dos is bad, Windows is bad ) .. why oh why do people
get carried away by the hype and buy worthless junk for
small fortunes ?

>They had all the engineering resources, except the people, but
>never really did much with it after the OG 1xx failures until
>the WinCEs. What a shame.

yes, WHAT A SHAME ! .. what happened to the engg
resources ? lost in the abyss or frozen in a deep freezer ?
(and 'exept the people' .. i take it to mean the original
corvalis team ?)

>> can't we start a wish list ? what features
>> could be improved ..
>This is old, and TOTALLY frustrating. We have done this
>probably 3 times. At one point, I collected several hundred
>signatures on a set of fairly stable specs and sent it along
>to HP's Singapore people who ignored it. Please not again...

i extrapolate from YOUR experience .. sent it along to
HP's singapore people .. meaning sent to the black hole ..
what a tragic end to such a noble effort .. you earn my
respect .. it was a NOBLE effort .. history is witness to
many many such efforts ending up in doing the default
which mankind has set for such efforts : NOTHING
I am still not disheartened .. probably will die wishing
and certainly TRYING to make something HAPPEN ..
HP may be the father of the LX .. but  foster parents
can give more love to the child than the original
father/mother .. don't we all know that ! .. and the
Lx has got a large number of foster parents .. this
list is the proof of that !

>> can't thaddeus and others make a better
>> lx than the one we all proudly and
>> complainingly have to use
>Send an inquiry to hal_goldstein@thaddeus.com ...

Let me share something .. i did send a few
"your'e a good guy" msgs to Hal .. he's too
modest .. he accepted them .. but moderated
me down .. not wanting to accept all that
super buttering (but is was NOT buttering ..
just calling a spade a spade) .. i hope Hal
will understand my strong feelings about
the product and HISTORY .. and give me
just the little support .. blessings .. cooperation ..
guidance .. encouragement  .. that efforts
like these need (just to survive if not thrive)

>> (count me in .. india is now a cheap
>> fabrication joint too .. maybe a taiwan
>> base is a better idea .. morphey one
>> is in a limbo ..)
>I was involved with a group of people who were interested in
>developing the HP 260LX (our name for the the set of specs we
>sent to Singapore). This effort died when the banks in Asia
>collapsed several years ago, and never revived.

Let's revive .. the banks have been revived ..
see .. the revival is a law of nature .. and its
natural that revival takes place .. the specs
for the 260 lx .. send them to me .. if you
can wipe the dust off from the subdirectory
where u stored them in the attic of you hard
disks  :-)) 

>I am aware of one other person who is doing something about a
>sequel and is approaching manufacturing 10 machines just for
>himself and some friends. (yes, he has some $$$ to burn
<g>...)

whoa ! i don't have that many $$ to burn .. a few
yes .. that many .. no ..
but tell me abt him .. status of the project .. his
email .. is he on this list ? what other things
is he into .. which country ?

>Realignment of the company. The division making palmtop was
>combined with the computer division in Singapore, but most
>people who knew about making Palmtops would not leave
>Corvallis.

that makes corvallis a city/town .. good thing they
would not leave their place .. must still be there ..
anyone know how to get to them .. for money or
the love of the Lx ?

.. pk

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Date:         Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:10:30 +0100
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Bruce Martin wrote:
>
> > I have played with my J720 for three months now. Since two weeks it =
is
> > sitting in a corner collecting dust. The applications for WinCE
> > machines are almost useless if you really rely on a PDA.
> >
> > The only interesting development will be Linux on such machines (I =
know
> > it is being done for iPAQ's).
> >
> Check this out: a Palm clone with Linux inside, just US$99.99. Anyone =
have
> this? Does it actually do anything that a PalmOS machine can't?

I have not investigated deeply but I'm aware about products and
activities. The German company TUXIA has just announced a free Linux
suite for iPAQ's as well.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Barry wrote:
>
Barry,

> Now if I can figure out how having linux on a machine with no or
> few linux applications written for it will improve said machine,
> I'll have learned something new about linux-devotees.

I'm no Linux expert - I have just installed it in a multiboot
environment for my kids. I'm convinced that they will "need" it.

WinCE 3.0 on the J720 is a joke. Pocketexplorer is OK, P-Outlook opens
the door to all sorts of virus attacks. P-Access requires you to be an
SQL expert. P-Powerpoint displays slides only, you can not create ore
modify slides. P-Excel lacks a lot of spreadsheet features and does not
allow to make graphs.

I trust (but have not tried personally) that the appropriate Linux
installation has PIM, Mozilla and office programs and a lot more. I
started to check out the requirements to install Linux on a PCMCIA to
run on the J720 but backed off, since the instructions were written in a
techie type language which I did not understand.

I'll try again maybe during Christmas holidays - just for curiosity.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Folks,

Does anyone know any way to use the files from the HP Dictionary=
 card on another card?
--
Patrick West, francis_patrick_west@yahoo.com on 11/14/2001

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Sorry for butting in, but I thought to make a few comments  .  .  .

----- Original Message -----
From: "pksharma" <pksharma@CAL.VSNL.NET.IN>

> Let's revive .. the banks have been revived ..
> see .. the revival is a law of nature .. and its
> natural that revival takes place .. the specs
> for the 260 lx .. send them to me .. if you
> can wipe the dust off from the subdirectory
> where u stored them in the attic of you hard
> disks  :-)) 

If I am not mistaken, when the banks crashed, they took people's money with
them.   The current revival would therefore be with new money, meaning the
old money is not coming back.   Hence, not hplx revival, from that source
anyway.  :-(


> that makes corvallis a city/town .. good thing they
> would not leave their place .. must still be there ..
> anyone know how to get to them .. for money or
> the love of the Lx ?

A few details from previous discussions on this subject.    The list has had
many people come and go, but the size has remained at a constant 800
members, approximately.    Now, if we took the overtly optimistic asumption
that every member of the list would purchase 3 machines each, that would
make a sale of 2400 machines.   It has been mentioned on this list on
several occasions that the size of a special order from HP (if they were
inclined to do so, which they are not) would be about 10,000 (IIRC).   The
details on cost of marketing, parts, and other details, have been hashed
quite a bit here.    The bottom line?   It is not possible.    The only
place where a pipe-dream-user-produced-and-supported palmtop  can come from
(Japan) has not been forth-coming (morphy).    Unfortunately, palmtops
cannot be made from parts off the shelf (except possibly the Palm, for which
there seems to be a significant amount of parts available).

The people who created the hplx did it for the money, and they stopped
working on it for the same reason.   Sadly, that is the state of things.
I am not an expert in these matters, but I did not think the real experts
would be inclined to rehash all the old discussions on this issue, so I
decide to butt in.   :-)

Given the great lack of new users, it's hard to tell in a way why this list
still exist.   We like to hang around each other, old habits die hard, I
guess.  :-)     New users are what drives most of the relevant discussions.

Domingo

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Date:         Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:10:03 -0800
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Subject:      Backup (was Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries?)
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, David Becher wrote:

> 1. Backup
> 2. Backup
> 3. Backup


Here's what I do on my 2M 200LX normal speed w/10M flash card:

I put in a repeating daily appointment:

|c:\zip.exe -u -ex -ba: -o a:\lx @c:\_dat\f

Start time is 23:33, end time is 23:59, Location is "Q" alarm is enabled
Leadtime is 1.

The file c:\_dat\f is:

c:\quicken\*.*
c:\_dat\*.?db
c:\_dat\*.wk?


This updates the file a:\lx.zip on my Flash card every night.  From
time to time, every few weeks, I send the lx.zip file to my bigger
computer, with the name lx010930.zip (for example) to mean the backup
taken on 30 Sep 2001.

Clearly, copies of zip.exe, unzip.exe, and the file f are also on the
a: drive in case of disaster.

-----
This automatic backup feature is one that I find most helpful on the 200LX;
as I understand it, CE devices can't do this.  You have to plug it into
a "master" PC to back it up.  Yuck.

And not having graphing capability on CE's version of Excel?  Pleeeeeze!

And the so-called calculator on CE?  Total joke.

The fact that the 200LX is a full-function -stand alone- PC is another
thing that makes it special.  And people should not be so quick to write
off DOS...that program loader is still useful.
----

-Mike

p.s. I, too, am curious for the specs on the mythical "HP 260LX" - anybody
want to post them?

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David Becher wrote:
> I am using a single speed HP200lx with 4mb memory. My drive c: crashed =
and I
> really DID need to reinitialize it.

That's bad. I did not have this since maybe two years now. Knock on
wood. But then you don't seem to have a memory upgrade with two drives
- a small "boot" drive and a large swapped drive. I am lucky to own a
96meg machine. If the LX freezes the large drive (containing most of
the data) can be easily recovered if you don't panik. In a single drive
situation this may not be the case.

> The point I am emphasising is what has
> been repeated here so often: There are 3 things you should do to ensure =
your
> data:
> 1. Backup
> 2. Backup
> 3. Backup

No question about that. I have grown lazy on doing backups though ;-)

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A belated reply, but....
I have a 7 language (Dutch, french, english, spanish, german,
italian, portuguese)dictionary, Windi7,that works on the
palmtop. You need only install the languages you are interested
in, say french-> english and french -> english. It is not very
extensive, but it helps. It used to be free download, but is no
more on their site

Let me know if you want a copy - Oh, it's 2MB per language,
approx

HTH

Etienne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Akio HIKITA" <chez-aki@COMLINK.NE.JP>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:17 PM
Subject: How to type French letters


| Hi,
| I am a Japanese lxer. Now I am studying French at the local
college.
| I don't know how to type French letters with accents. And do
you have
| any English-French or French-English dictionary on freeware?
| Please let me know about that.
| My 200lx(2mb ram with 10mb flash card) is very smart with
writing
| English, Japanese, and Korean. I use the Korean editor "San".
|     Akio HIKITA <chez-aki@comlink.ne.jp>
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Date:         Thu, 15 Nov 2001 13:50:09 +0100
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> Nan-Shan Chen wrote:
> > I started PCMATLAB v3.5 on my palmtop
> > because I thought it is big and should
> > overwrite the shell. But it did not.  That is,
> > the "saved information" of free disk space
> > did not get lost after loading and quitting
> > MATLAB.
>
> Dos stores it's data in an area of low memory that never gets
> overwritten even if command.com is overwritten.  Command.com
> isn't Dos.  It's just the command interpetter.  It's the
> interface between you and Dos.  In unix it's called a shell.
>
> Dos itself, and it's data area, are never overwritten, except
> possibly during a crash.

Hi, Barry,

with overwritten I meant in short the known behaviour of
command.com re-loading itself.  The fact that loading NDD
(Norton disk doctor), do nothing, and quit resulted in
a re-computation of the "saved value" of free disk space
should be explained.  One possibility is that the program
NDD triggered the reloading of command.com. Other possibilities
would be that NDD did something (some "reset"?), that triggered
the necessity of a re-computation of the free disk space.

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Comments: To: novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM
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Steve wrote:
>
>    Yeah, that would be the way to do it.  The power-on and power-
> off interrupt is what is needed.  The Drive Parameter Block
> returned by function 32H "Get DPB" has the "dpbFirstAccess"
> showing if the drive has been accessed and "dpbNextFree" showing
> the first free cluster.

Hmmm. I think I'll have a look at DPB (Disk/Drive Parameter
Block). Do you think the flag is significant to the behaviour
we're discussing? I've never get the block yet. Has anyone
examined or used that Disk Parameter block?

I could not find "dpbNextFree" for DOS v5.0 but only
for DOS 3.x and 4.x and MS-DOS 7 (Windows95) - FAT32 - "Get_ExtDPB"


                      Fields differing in DOS 3.x
      Offset Size               Description
        1C   word       starting cluster for free space search

(...)
                      Fields differing in DOS 4.x
        1D   word       starting cluster for free space search
(...)

                      MS-DOS 7 (Windows95) - FAT32 - "Get_ExtDPB"
        1Dh  WORD     cluster at which to start search for free space
                      when writing, usually the last cluster allocated
        1Fh  WORD     number of free clusters on drive, FFFFh = unknown
        21h  WORD     high word of free cluster count

(...) by <ralf+no_spam_or_junkmail@cs.cmu.edu>

Question; is that DPB a memory block or a disk block. Where is it?

> explanation of Usetnet groups and moderation.

So many things are going one on the net? I'll need
to update myself! :) Thanks for the explanation of
the BUFFER and SMARTDVR stuffs. I'll play with them.

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Steve wrote:

> Hi Stefan,
>
>    Found it in the Drive Parameter Block returned by function
> 32H "Get DPB".  Documented in "MS-DOS Programmer's Reference"
> Version 5.  Now if I knew how to write a TSR...  Maybe this
> weekend if I find the on/off interrupt vectors.

To save you one minute of searching, Steve. The hook is:

       INT 06, AH=1, AL=1

This is verified by

       IC.COM 06 ah=1 al=1 /f

so that everytime the palmtop wakes up from deep sleep, the
screen is flipped and buzzer clicked. This is one reason
why I made IC.COM general. I think I should send you a copy
... what do you say? :) (*warning*: advertisement)

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Comments: To: Michel.Bel@ATOSORIGIN.COM
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Michel Wrote:

> It may be that W2K uses the card more efficient, and uses smaller allocation
> units.
> As the LX's check/buffer all the allocation unit info on startup ( hence the
> delay) it may take twice as long if it has allocated 1K unit instead of 2K
> or 4K.

Michel, are you implying that DOS on our palmtops keeps a memory
image of the FAT?   I'm only aware that this is a general issue
of Operating System, but have been assuming that DOS does not do
this. Am I wrong?

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Has anyone using a Transcend CF in a DOUBLESPEEDED 200lx? Becasuse my 128MB Apacer doesn't I am looking for another...

Radek

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Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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Stefan wrote:
>I just found another occurence of the card delay after a power on event:
>If you copy a file from c: to a: after power on, it takes just as long as a
>DIR on a:. Every subsequent copy is fast until the next power on. Copy from
>a: to c: is always fast. That means, writing to the card also always checks
>for the media changed event, but probably not through INT21h FKT36h. Rudi,
>can please check this with your TSR?

Positive. Also, I've stated that in the first two posts of mine
(1)(2)/answer to the 2nd question. But I did not interpret this explicitly.
Maybe we should try to. My visualization of these stuffs is currently:

1. Read/Write access to the disk operates quite *independently*
   of computing and maintaining the free disk space inside DOS.

2. Reading a huge disk is piece of pie for DOS. There should not be a delay:

   a) FindFirst, FindNext for Dir-Entry;
   b) Dir-entry contains a pointer to the first block of the file;
   c) all blocks of the files is linked as a list.

   Some people critisize this as a disadvantage for random access
   to a file (OS course). But this should not have anything to do
   with the delay that concerns us for the time being.

3. Writing to a huge disk involves searching linearly for
   free allocatin blocks starting for the beginning of
   the FAT. (A search for the value zero.) Some other
   operating systems use different strategy by putting
   free blocks also into a *linked list* which is kept
   track of. So far as I know, DOS does not do this.

   Now that you've also observed that the second write-operation
   requires much less time. This should be explained.

   This is a wild guess but I hope this would not be true! :

     All programmers maintain their own working variables which are not
     officially documented or standardized.  Let's imagine some internal
     working variable called the "last position of free disk block". And

      a) Use this position to start the search for the next
         free disk allocation block if ...
      b) Use the beginning of the FAT to start the search for
         a free block if ... (after reboot, after disk change,
         after this value is destroyed/initialized somehow, after
         reload of command.com ....)

    Now, it would be a good news, if such variable is protocoled in a
    standard data structure such as the DPB (as Steve has pointed out in
    previous posts).

    But it would be a bad news, if such variable is arranged ad libitum
    without a formal interface for the user. An example is the 100/200LX,
    some events of the palmtop are exposed *formally* to the users by an
    official Hook but some are not.  :(

Support for (3).

I'll be claiming that I can speed-up the write-access to a huge disk even
immediately right after power-on.  Please check and confirm/reject the claim.

Method:

As stated in a previous post of mine, I complained that the defragmentation
utilities move the used blocks "bottom-up".  So that, a search requires scanning
through all used block.  But there is a tedious way to make a free area at the
beginning of the FAT, so that, a free block can be found very quickly.

1. Use some utility to identify any file, which is allocated at the
   beginning of a big flash card. (I used a Norton Diskeditor).

2. Backup this file by copying to another with different name.

3. Delete this file, so that there are now, free blocks at the beginning
   of the flash card. And the linear search should be fast.

Result: Copying a file to A: is always fast even after power-on. (Of
course, until this "gap" is again filled up.)

I think Barry is right that looking into the source codes wil help. But I
cannot do that. Let's hope to hear someting from him. Steve will be checking
the Disk Parameter Block.  I think I myself am in need of a "real weekend"
... What about you, Stefan?

Oh, yes. My 36H is still IRET. But, Michael Lennartz has his
point against that. Still, the only program I know which checks
for free disk space before copying a file is: list.com It will
refuse to copy. But this is still safe so far.  I once also
complained that COPY, XCOPY do not check the free disk space
before copying the files. I complained about they waste me time
by copying most part of the file, and then told me that there
are not enough free space.  *But* I don't know now if this
should be understood as a oblivion or a decision / a feature or
a bug.      Rudi

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> > > How can I view tiff-images on the 200lx?
If you want to convert files on the desktop I have found the
following programs to be useful.

For the MAC I would reccomend Graphic Converter
(www.lemkesoft.com) which takes less than 8 Mb of disk space and
will convert 55 different formats including TIFF. Last time I
registered a copy it cost $40.

For the PC I use IrfanView (I think Barry reccomended this one).
It only converts 15 formats (including TIFF) but it is freeware.
It takes less than 5 Mb on my hard disk.
You can get it from www.irfanview.com

--
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Ann Arbor Michigan
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Stefan Peichl wrote:

> Unfortunately the palmtop has no INT13h. The SDK says:
>
> | The INT13h service on the HP palmtop provide two categories
of
> | services, both of which are nonstandard services. HP
palmtops
> | do not support standard disk services at the INT13H level.
> | Instead, custom device drivers are used.
>
> The INT13h sevices on the palmtop concern the ramdisk c:

>> Then I'd take a look at the code for int 21h function 36h

> I tried to, but the code is so lengthy (and I didn't reach the
> end yet) that I gave up. It is hard to understand reassembled
> ASM code. I can do about 1-2 KB, but everything above is just
> too time consuming. I guess you know the situation being a
> programmer too ;-)

I either didn't realize or didn't remember that int 13h wasn't
used on the palmtop.  So that makes the rest moot.

However, if it was used an easy way to find it in a disassembly
is just look for instances of int 13h in the listing using your
editor's search feature.  Then examine any of these you find,
and possibly their callers.

I have the developer's guide but I haven't looked at it in
years.  Most of my palmtop programming just treated it as a PC.
Obviously I haven't done any LX low-level disk I/O. :)

Barry


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Nan-Shan Chen wrote:

> 1. Read/Write access to the disk operates quite *independently*
>    of computing and maintaining the free disk space inside DOS.

Verified! Doing a first COPY to A: and then running DIR does
not speed up DIR. Doing DIR first and then COPY does not speed
up COPY. I suppose, DOS keeps two different kind of information
in its buffers, but both concerned by the media change event.

> Still, the only program I know which checks
> for free disk space before copying a file is: list.com
> It will refuse to copy.

Now this is extremely bad news! LIST.COM is my one and only
Command Center. I use it xx times a day to do virtually
everything on the palmtop. This diminishes my interest in
this subject to 0.01% :-( I'm not ready to give up LIST!

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Following a number of suggestions, I have added to my page at
http://www.angelfire.com/ego/palmtop/ example screenshots of the various
themes available for palmtops running the X-Finder GUI.

Please take a look and let me know what you think.

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hi sally,

Noted . sorry .. no offence meant .. Nathalie is posting
regularly .. i missed it ..

suggestion : lurk has a bit of sinister connotation .. so
in many forums i have kept on suggesting to change
the description to 'lookers' .. so you are one of those
who 'mostly look'  !

wouldn't you like to comment on my other ramblings ?



> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "COOPER,SALLY (HP-Corvallis,ex1)"  sally_cooper@hp.com>
> To: "'pksharma'" <pksharma@CAL.VSNL.NET.IN>
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 8:50 PM
> Subject: RE: Staying with the 200lx
> Hello pk,
> There are a few of us here, Nathalie posts regularly, I and a few other
gals
> mostly lurk.
>
> Sally
>
> Disclaimer
> I subscribe to the list from my place of employment, there is no other
work
> connection.  I work in the Inkjet supplies division.

and that 'work connection'  has something to do with the Lx ?  :-( ?

..pk

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Hallo all,

I fully agree. And I like productivity-only applications.


Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
lennartz-mi@gmx.net
Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57

Stefan Peichl schrieb am 15.11.2001:

----------<snip>-----------
I cannot think of a better (and cheaper) solution. Two manual
actions and all the rest is done at max speed (115200 baud
indeed for WWW/LX on a Pentium) and best comfort.

I see the WWW/LX suite as a serious competitor in todays
desktop market, if people only needed productivity.
----------<snip>-----------


Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
lennartz-mi@gmx.net
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Thanks for the question!

In the past I added a link to Quicken 8 for DOS because I was so used to
using Quicken from the Palmtop interface.  To add an additional application
you use the F2 key to bring up an form to put in the info to add the app.
When you choose the new icon and press enter it shells you out of the
Connectivity pack to the external app.  Close the app and you return to the
Connectivity pack.  (Usually I get a message to close DOS window in
between.)

In double checking so that I could answer your question correctly, I began
to wonder if I could set up an icon for a Windows based app.  (I had
previously assumed that I could only add a DOS app.)  I tried and it worked.
But more importantly, it place the Connectivity pack on my windows taskbar
and left me in Windows when I closed the windows app.!  I clicked on the
connectivity pack session and it opened with no problem.  I now had
essentially minimized the Connectivity pack and was able to get back to it
quickly.  Something I had not been able to do without screwing up my video
memory in the past.

So, I've learned that I can shell out of the Connectivity pack to a windows
program and come back, I just can't leave an application like Phonebook open
while I do it.  Marginally useful but interesting.

Over seven years of using these things and I still keep learning new stuff!

Also, I would like to verify that you can run the Connectivity pack on the
200LX.  I did it just to see.  But why would you want to.  (I do understand
about the 1000LXs though.)

Later,
bob

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> How do you add additional icons/applications to the taskbar and what
> applications have you added?  Thanks.

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From: "HP Staber" <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: PCMCIA v. CF Card Discussion, PocketPC comments


>Barry wrote:

>> Now if I can figure out how having linux on a machine with no or
>> few linux applications written for it will improve said machine,
>> I'll have learned something new about linux-devotees.

>I trust (but have not tried personally) that the appropriate Linux
installation has PIM, Mozilla and office programs and a lot more.

This is correct .. 'appropriate' is the right word .. actually i've
tried and tried to find a very very small linux .. and have found
it too .. it works on top of dos .. doesn't replace the dos operating
system .. but works along side .. and surprisingly without
destroying or corrupting the dos.

> I started to check out the requirements to install Linux on a
> PCMCIA to run on the J720 but backed off, since the instructions
> were written in a techie type language which I did not understand.
> I'll try again maybe during Christmas holidays - just for curiosity.

probably the J720 works on WinCe .. which is why linux won't run
on it .. i've not come across any Linux distro which was made to
work under of along side WinCe .. as it is, WinCe is soooo
woefully inadequate in itself .. its good .. it works .. but that's where
the goodness ends .. very very few programs have been made to
work under WinCe .. yet there is  a program which 'recreates' the
dos operating system under WinCe .. its a bit costly .. but it works
fine !

..pk

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and my observations on Hans Staber's msg
are given below

..pk


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>To: "pksharma" <pksharma@CAL.VSNL.NET.IN>
>Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:56 PM
>Subject: Re: Brilliant ideas ! From brilliant people

>I'm a Gen Mgr running a 300 people operation and I do that in the
>morning before going to work. While showering and having breakfast the
>palmtop downloads Financial Times, Yahoo business news and market
>information which I read afterwards ;-) Same in the evening. To see how
>I do it check RWEBADV.DOC in the ROBOWEB/LX package.

Wow ! and the Lx fits the purpose .. strange .. even the Lx720
descendant can't do this !

>> and Hans .. what is more that u r doing or have done
>> that we should know more about ?

>I have been checking out a Jornada 720 PDA running WinCE 3.0 Below is
>info/experience that I collected so far.
>HP Staber/Salzburg
>+( J720 Hewlett Packard Jornada 720

excellent stuff .. below .. Hans has really gone a long way
to put it in record .. noticeable is the use of XT-CE .. this
is one good program which gives Dos under 720's WinCe
operating system .. but as i understand from his writeup ..
its not fully functional dos .. freezes in places :-(

(but Hans .. running Foxpro .. on a palmtop ? just
wondering .. it doesn't work on the Lx either)

..pk


the excellent write up follows :


 MINUS
1) different adapter : size and polarity
2) no file search functionality (in explorer)
3) no graphics in Excel and Access
4) no grouping of columns/ranges in Excel
5) screen very dim in sunlight
6) no file conversion utility (WKS<->XLS)
7) software depends on processor (StrongARM), not so popular yet

 PLUS
1) backlight screen in the evening
2) Pocket Internet Explorer
3) file size of p-Excel is much smaller than "real" Excel97 : 140kb->45kB

 SOFTWARE

WinCE :
========
PocketToy,
PocketGraph     produces graphs from PocketExcel tables
SpreadCE        p-Excel alternative, converts to/from CSV and does graphs

not
PUNZIP
AutoGraph

DOS : difficulties in setting up the right screen driver
=====
dBASE III+
Framework II
Lotus 1-2-3 v 2.4 (very slow)
Word55
Lotus Magellan
Quicken v 8
Nierenberg ProjektKickstart
Nierenberg The Art of Negotiation
Collins Dictionary
PIM/PE (very slow)
acCIS4
WWW/LX (very slow)
FTP/LX
PKUNZIP
ROBONEWS/LX
ROBOWEB/LX
POST/LX as standalone reader for ROBONEWS/LX and ROBOWEB/LX

not :
POST/LX v2 and v3 as mailclient together with WWW/LX
SKETCH3 (junior version of AutoCAD)
FoxPro
Nierenberg IdeaGenerator

 IrDA
works
you need to specify the "generic IrDA modem" in the setup

 access to CIS

There are help files in Compuserve PALMTOP forum section 4 for dial up
purposes - it is a terminal connection.


<snip> (the rest of the stuff was on some other issues of memory etc ) ..pk

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Date:         Thu, 15 Nov 2001 20:31:03 +0200
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Hi friends,

I just went to Segor Electronics here in Berlin and asked fir Lithium
batteries.

They have 1.6V AA cells, each costs 16 DEM, i.e. 8 US$.

Is this reasonable?
What about the voltage? Are those you all use also 0.6V or 1.5V?

GTX
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Date:         Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:25:29 -0500
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> (but Hans .. running Foxpro .. on a palmtop ? just
> wondering .. it doesn't work on the Lx either)
>

I've been running foxpro 2.6 on the palmtop for years. You have to
make some changes to the video mode so that it thinks it's on a mono
screen but otherwise works well.

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Etienne,
On Win 98, NT4 and now Win 2000 I could never Alt-Esc and get anywhere.
When I Alt-Tab I can get the Connectivity pack to go to the taskbar.  When I
do this my taskbar reads "C_Pack - FROZEN".  And when I click to reopen, my
video in that session is screwed up and unreadable.  The only thing I can do
then is to do a blind Alt-Q to close it.  Sometimes if I could not remember
where I was or what I had left open, I would have to force it to close.
For me, this was the first time I have been able to work on a Windows
application and return without completely exiting the C_Pack.
bob
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Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: HP connectivity pack


> On my desktop I minimize the connectivity pack with Alt Esc,
> and click on it to get it back- I can leave phone book or appt
> open and return to it. Closing CPack via Menu-Q often freezes
> the PC, but I found that minimizing first, then a right click on
> the CP icon in the taskbar and "close" works flawless. I have
> Win98 SE on my desktop.
> Establishing a link between my desktop and the 200 in Filer
> works only if I first go in remote settings, thenclick OK, no
> need to change anything-assuming the settings were right from
> the start, of course. Just opening filer and hitting F10 always
> fails.
>
>
> Etienne

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> This automatic backup feature is one that I find most helpful on the =
200LX;
> as I understand it, CE devices can't do this.  You have to plug it into
> a "master" PC to back it up.  Yuck.

Actually, my Jornada 690 has a program (provided with it by HP) that will =
back
it up to a Flash card.  You can also restore it from the card, which is =
helpful
when the inevitable major crash comes.  HP also provided a nice scientific=
 and
business calculator (but no Solver function).  I still use my 200LX most =
of the
time, however.  I got the Jornada because we have a specific system at =
work
that requires a WinCE hand held.

 Steve Carder <steve@carderfamily.net>
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I've been unable to retrieve email from Palmtop.com since late
last night. If anyone else on this list uses Palmtop.com for
their email, please let me know if your email is working. Reply
to me at my alternate email: bc@ezlink.com
Thanks.

Bob Christopher     Littleton, Colorado USA     bob@palmtop.com

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> > "- The phonebook can present phone and address details in "business-card"
> > or the 100LX-style "form" format.

> Really? Hmmm... I changed my Phonebook on the 100LX a long
> time before I got the 200LX and just copied the PDB across,
> and never really used the original, built-in phonebook. My
> mistake. Sorry. Gee, giant differences, too <g>...

I think he is speaking of the datacard view which kind of overlays the
underlying simple form.  Looks like GBWin.

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I have been using Olympus Camedia NiMh batteries for a few years
with no problems.
Once a week I plug the palmtop in overnight using the standard
"NiCad" charging setting.
I have never had a crash caused by batteries.
Of course I also used the tiny Stancor AC adaptor for years with
no problem so perhaps I am just lucky (good battery karma?).
More likely it's because I don't ask much of the batteries, I
don't use a modem or network card and I plug the machine in when
I'm writing to the PC card.

--
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Ann Arbor Michigan
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Date:         Thu, 15 Nov 2001 22:41:06 -0800
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1MB HP200LX + 3MB Flash, Connectivity Pack, Manual for Sale plus two PCMICA
14.4 modems. Recently refurbished by Thaddeus.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1298262129&r=0&t=0&sh
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For Scriptures, if you are not aware...

Tom Hoover has written "His Word" for the LX

http://www.qsl.net/n5ntm/

It uses data files from Online Bible

http://www.onlinebible.net/

I have on my LX both programs with...

  AV 1769
  Strong's Numbers w/definitions
  Treasury of Scripture Knowledge
  Scofield's Notes
  Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
  Wesley's Notes
  Gill's Notes

 Topical Items
    Thompson Chain Topics
    New Topical Text Book

 Doctrinal Items
    How to Study Your Bible
    Major Bible Doctrines
    Puritan Confession of Faith
    Spurgeon's Catechism
    Sum of Saving Knowledge Major Index

 Other Material
    AV 1611 Epistle of Dedication
    AV 1611 Preface
    Commenting on the Commentaries
    Harmony of the Gospels
    Index to Misc. Material
    Index to "Treasury of Scripture Knowledge" Notes
    Index to Scofield's Notes
    Influence of the Bible
    Parallel Passages in New Testament
    Parallel Passages in Old Testament

I'm also considering porting over the full blown Matthew
Henry's commentary.


Victor Beazel wrote:
>
> SanDisk about a third full of ebooks.  After loading the Scriptures onto the
> LX, I got tired of the long search-times trying to find a verse, so I
> compiled a GDB-based Topical Guide that is very fast.  I love it when another

--
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steve Carder" <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET>
>To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 3:34 AM
>Subject: Re: Backup


>Actually, my Jornada 690 has a program (provided with it by HP) that will
back
>it up to a Flash card.

my Lx360 has a backup program built in too .. but only for
'data' .. which is only the contact list, todo list .. it doesn't
backup the entire 'C' drive .. saving pocket word, excel,
powerpoint, emails has to be done manually by transferring
files thru the built in file manager

..pk

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Date:         Wed, 14 Nov 2001 04:33:40 +0530
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This is great news, for me at least ..
for years i've been trying to run a very tiny
accounting program under FoxBase2.0/2.1
.. these FoxBase have multiuser simultaneous
file/record access options .. and can work
happily over a network .. but found that
even the compiled version (using Foxpcomp)
with the ' .fox' extension ran rather slow !

I guessed running FoxPro2x would be even
slower. is that not so ?

..pk

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ed Padin" <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
>To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:55 AM
>Subject: Re: Brilliant ideas ! From brilliant people

> I've been running foxpro 2.6 on the palmtop for years. You have to
> make some changes to the video mode so that it thinks it's on a mono
> screen but otherwise works well.

i assume that the foxpro2.6 version is FoxPro for Dos
.. the cursor in that version should be a block type, not
the arrow type as in windows .. right ?
(there is a FoxPro for Windows version too. the cursor
there is a regular arrow and the windows have the look
and feel of the Windows desktop type including 3d
buttons and scroll bars)

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pk,

Have you considered running:
http://www.xt-ce.com/
on your J720, and then running DOS and the connectivity pack on top of that?



----- Original Message -----
From: "pksharma"
> probably the J720 works on WinCe .. which is why linux won't run
> on it .. i've not come across any Linux distro which was made to
> work under of along side WinCe .. as it is, WinCe is soooo
> woefully inadequate in itself .. its good .. it works .. but that's where
> the goodness ends .. very very few programs have been made to
> work under WinCe .. yet there is  a program which 'recreates' the
> dos operating system under WinCe .. its a bit costly .. but it works
> fine !
>
> ..pk
>
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Hi pk

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 00:40:41 +0530, pksharma <pksharma@CAL.VSNL.NET.IN> wrote:

> This is a very very nice list .. unlike any
> other .. and i see lots and lots of them ..
> people here are friendly .. tolerante ..
> very very decent .. and GOOD .. the last
> being the most important ..

True. I also haven't seen any other mailing list or newsgroup which is
as nice and tolerant as this one. The reason may be that we know each
other fairly long and well, only rarely there are newcomers
(unfortunately!), and many different opinions have been discussed
already. So we now are a harmonic group of people wanting all the same:
as much productivity from our litlle companion as possible.
And besides that, we also want to talk a little bit "about god and the
world" as we Germans say. And we do so, and no one is complaining.
"and that is well this way" (as Klaus Wowereit, our mayor of Berlin
has said when he told us that he is a gay) ;-)

> This is the thing I am wanting/trying/
> compelling everyone to study, understand
> and make happen DELIBERATELY and
> with planned implementing .. the lx is
> NOT ONLY a good product .. it is the
> reason for GOOD THINGS to have
> happened .. like the many many postings
> here prove .. unfortunately i find no
> takers or pickers for this thread of
> mine .. lots and lots of posts have come

Well - don't feel offended please, but as yourself say, you are
repeating the same words over and over, and (although you are right, I
think, and you only say what we all may be thinking) this gets
_slightly_ boring.

We all appreciate your kind words about all the other list members, and
everyone is welcome on this list. Your philosophical "touch" was
missing until you joined us, so it is quite "refreshing" to talk also
about the whole philosophy which is behind the LX and its usage.

Okay, I won't say more here, I think you know what I mean. Again, this
is no offense, and others may think different, I don't know, but since
there are not so much people who join your thread, I really think you
should simply repeat a bit less.

Say it once and let your words do the rest.

I at least was fairly impressed by your new point of view of the big
"Phenomenen" HPLX.

> (i certainly am persistent, isn't it ? but
> i keep trying .. to get even 1 follower will
> be a reward .. till now i am still looking)

Yes, you _are_ persistent. ;-)
I really think we are all followers. But it is more "in the
background". We usually don't talk as much about that all. We talk more
about the technical problems and solutions we have. The proof that we
are all followers is that this list still exists and still has so many
members.


GTX
daniel


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Date:         Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:34:14 +0200
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Hi friends,

I have a data cable for sale which connects a Siemens cellular phone
(S25, C25, S35, C35, M35, (S45, ME45?)) to the palmtop (and only to the
palmtop, because it has a custom plug, thus it is very light and
convenient).

This is the only way to establish reliable Internet connections with
these phones,
because the IrDA interface of the Siemens phones are low-power IrDA and
thus have a reduced working range. This limits the distance in which
the phone must be placed from the LX and this causes EMI.

For further information please look at

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/s25_hplx
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/emi
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx

This cable is made with a real printed circuit board, i.e. not exactly
in that way described on my home page (not with that standard SMD
circuit board).
It is NOT transparent, but covered with black heat shrink tubing and
looks fairly professional.

The cable is about 20cm long.

I ask 60 Euro plus shipping for that cable.

First one who wants it gets it. I ship to anywhere (but please be aware
that shipping costs are about 5 US$ overseas, and as a registered letter
with assurance even more; I will not be responsible if it gets lost
during shipping, if it wasn't assured by the mail service).

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

since I got some mails recently asking for one of my LED lights, I'll
eventually build one more bunch of them in the christmas holidays.
But only if there is enough demand.

So, please, anyone who is interested in buying a LED light for 35 US$
(please have a look at
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight
for further information, and you can also ask here on the list for
experiences with the light, since I sold some of them some years
ago to list members),

please drop me a line!

This will be no order. If I receive enough mails that I decide to make the
lights, I'll let you know. I will then ask you to order it obligatory.

The light will cost the same as some years ago: 35 US$, plus shipping.
IIRC shipping to overseas (America, Australia) costs about 5 US$
without assurance.

Preferred payment way is Paypal, I also accept Paybox, cheques or money
orders, which you pay _all_ administrary costs for (that will be
expensive!).

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:08:24 +0100
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pksharma wrote:
>
>
> (but Hans .. running Foxpro .. on a palmtop ? just
> wondering .. it doesn't work on the Lx either)

Had the copy around and simply installed it for a trial :)


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Bob Christopher writes:
snip snip
>
> NOTE: THIS ASSUMES THAT YOUR PC CARD HAS ENOUGH ROOM TO HOLD
>       ALL THE FILES ON YOUR DRIVE C AND DRIVE D ON YOUR PALMTOP.

Why would you want to back up the d: drive? It is ROM!

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HP Staber writes:
> Avi Meshar wrote:
> >
> > That is not correct. David said the C: drive FAT was corrupt.
>
> You are correct - this was then a misunderstanding on my side.
>
> In such a case you should have a recovery procedure at hand which
> reinstall's the memory swap driver and the speed driver (if
> applicable) before you panik (and I did panik at least three times in
> my palmtop life).

Like I said in my 1st email - no panic no fuss. It took me all of 10 minutes
(I didnt time it) and I was fully restored. I have a single speed palmtop so
all I had to do was reinitialize drive C:, wipe EVERYTHING off drive c:
from DOS, recreate the EMSDAT file form emm240 and then pkunzip my backup from the flash disk.

Have Backup - No panic, not even panik!

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Avi Meshar writes:
> Sheesh! You guys will never forgive, heh? <VBG>
>
> I did not mean to slight HP95LX, I just made a mistake in
> omitting it. Please, not the thumbscrews...

Or worse - should we sentence him to (gasp!) a week using wince?

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Stefan,

Stefan Peichl wrote:
> In other words: From the desktop I use one mouse click to start
> POST/LX in a fullscrenn DOS box. Then I press the 'c' key,
> which is a macro starting the batch file I just described.
>
> One minute later I sit in front of a screen with 20 intraday
> charts and can watch them without the "online stress".

Excellent! (Makes me feel even better that you use our product
for part of the process. <G>)

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Klaus,

You misunderstood. I am sure no one objects to an occasional
off topic message (with or without the OT: indication). But
you posted a message with almost NO INFORMATION, just that you
had a virus. That is alarming, don't you think?

If you were attacked by a virus, maybe others can be hit too.
Maybe not. It is speculative, because your message said nearly
nothing.

Maybe to be more considerate in the future you can give a hint
to all of us what the heck you are talking about. I am sure it
was all inside your head, but it was hard for us to read that
material <g>...

Thank you.

  Avi M.


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> Hi all(?)
>
> Sorry, if I nerved memers. This group is my main group for years and I =
usually
> got good responses and advices. Perhaps I should have prefeixed my =
subject
> with the OT in the first time, isn't it?
>
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HP Staber wrote:
> David Becher wrote:
> > I am using a single speed HP200lx with 4mb memory. My drive c: =
crashed and I
> > really DID need to reinitialize it.
>
> That's bad. I did not have this since maybe two years now. Knock on
> wood. But then you don't seem to have a memory upgrade with two drives
> - a small "boot" drive and a large swapped drive. I am lucky to own a
> 96meg machine. If the LX freezes the large drive (containing most of
> the data) can be easily recovered if you don't panik. In a single drive
> situation this may not be the case.

In most cases, the add-on memory will remain fine when the
Palmtop crashes. In several years I have seen many crashes but
only less than a handful affected the add-on memory (such as
the 96M you have).

The boot drive DOES crash in a large number (but not ALL) of
the crashes. That is what an un-upgraded Palmtop sees as the
c: drive.

Even if you panic and reinitialie the boot drive it does
NOTHING to affect the add-on memory! You want to experiment?
Back up your 96MB and boot drive and then reinitialize the
C drive duting a cold boot. The ONLY thing you affect is the
built-in c drive which came from the factory (which you call
boot drive.)

So panic away. The important thing is to understand what you
do and what you affect by the boldboot with reinit.

> > The point I am emphasising is what has
> > been repeated here so often: There are 3 things you should do to =
ensure your
> > data:
> > 1. Backup
> > 2. Backup
> > 3. Backup
>
> No question about that. I have grown lazy on doing backups though ;-)

I agree with Mr David (Gibuy Gibuy Gibuy Becher and with you!
There is not way to get the data from if you do not backup
consistently and frequently.

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I'll be throwing these manuals in the trash this weekend if no one wants
them. Anyone can have them just for the cost of media mail, (slightly over
$2 if I recall).

First person to email me can have either one, or both if you so desire....

The Norton Utilities 6 Book, ISBN 0-672-27384-5

The Borland Paradox 3.5 User's Guide

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Hi Rudi,

Nan-Shan Chen wrote:
> Hmmm. I think I'll have a look at DPB (Disk/Drive Parameter
> Block). Do you think the flag is significant to the behaviour
> we're discussing?

   Well, it seems the best bet to date.  At least it's a
place to start.  To be sure you would need to have the
source code to the HP modified MS-DOS, or dump memory
before and after powering on, and see what changes.  And
then try and find out what is relevant.

> I could not find "dpbNextFree" for DOS v5.0 but only
> for DOS 3.x and 4.x and MS-DOS 7 (Windows95) - FAT32 - "Get_ExtDPB"

   Slight change in structure version 3 -> versions 4+.
Versions 4 through 6 are the same structure and definition.
Don't have any information above version 6.

> Question; is that DPB a memory block or a disk block. Where is it?

   It is a stucture in a block of memory that is used to
define each disk drive to MS-DOS.  It is in MS-DOS itself.

> Thanks for the explanation of
> the BUFFER and SMARTDVR stuffs. I'll play with them.

   As I looked in "Undocumented MS-DOS" to find out more
about the DPB, I found more info on buffers.  My speed
testing was done on a single disk at a time.  If you use
multiple disks at the same time, you will probably want
more buffers.  But a disk cache program still works better
than buffers.

Nan-Shan Chen wrote:

> To save you one minute of searching, Steve. The hook is:
>
>        INT 06, AH=1, AL=1
>
> This is verified by
>
>        IC.COM 06 ah=1 al=1 /f
>
> so that everytime the palmtop wakes up from deep sleep, the
> screen is flipped and buzzer clicked. This is one reason
> why I made IC.COM general. I think I should send you a copy
> ... what do you say? :) (*warning*: advertisement)

   Sure, I can look at it.  But I have spent some time
using CMDSPY and INTERSPY from "Undocumented MS-DOS" to
track interrupts.  So, I'll probably continue to use
them.  And I recently got a hold of a copy of the HP
Developer's Guide, so I will see if I can track down what
that has to say.

Nan-Shan Chen wrote:

> Michel, are you implying that DOS on our palmtops keeps a memory
> image of the FAT?   I'm only aware that this is a general issue
> of Operating System, but have been assuming that DOS does not do
> this. Am I wrong?

   When DOS uses a FAT, it is read into the disk buffers.
The portions that fit will remain in the buffer until
overwritten.  As such, multiple searches of the FAT may
not require multiple disk reads.

HTH
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Tralornik wrote:
>
> pk,
>
> Have you considered running:
> http://www.xt-ce.com/
> on your J720, and then running DOS and the connectivity pack on top of that?

Interesting thought. I will try it.

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Domingo wrote:
> It has been mentioned on this list on
> several occasions that the size of a
> special order from HP (if they were
> inclined to do so, which they are not)
> would be about 10,000 (IIRC).   The
> details on cost of marketing, parts, and
> other details, have been hashed quite
> a bit here.
>    The bottom line?   It is not possible.

I think you miss the point.  It almost seems possible if we
overlook a few things and think of it in the right way.  So we
can talk about it as though it were possible and dream of doing
it.

If it were actually possible we'd either decide to do it or not
to do it.  Nothing to dream about there.  At least not after
it's done.  Not after it's decided not to do it.

It's not possible (at least in any way we can predict now) to
reach the stars.  That's probably part of the reason science
fiction is so popular.  Science fiction about reaching the moon
pretty much stopped after we did it.

Barry (the impossible dreamer)

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FYI, I tried running the Connectivity pack on pocket dos eariler this year,
but that didn't work. Of course I didn't put much effort into it. I am
thinking about writing a Windows PIM that looks almost exactly like the
Conn. Pack. Is there a demand for that? Do most of the 200LX users also use
Windows? I wouldn't know how to sync though. :-(

Mike...

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Tralornik wrote:
>
> pk,
>
> Have you considered running:
> http://www.xt-ce.com/
> on your J720, and then running DOS and the connectivity pack on top of
that?

Interesting thought. I will try it.

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Nan-Shan Chen wrote:
> with overwritten I meant in short the known behaviour of
> command.com re-loading itself.  The fact that loading NDD
> (Norton disk doctor), do nothing, and quit resulted in
> a re-computation of the "saved value" of free disk space
> should be explained.  One possibility is that the program
> NDD triggered the reloading of command.com. Other
possibilities
> would be that NDD did something (some "reset"?), that
triggered
> the necessity of a re-computation of the free disk space.

You're correct that command.com reloads itself if it's
overwritten.  But the information about the state of the disks
isn't kept in command.com.  That's kept in the Dos data area.

NDD is a program that does very low level things to your disk
and probably, as a safety measure, leaves Dos in a state where
it will re-check the status of the drive.  It probably, as you
said, triggers a re-computation.

But this has nothing to do with whether command.com is
re-loaded.  That's a seperate issue entirely.

Repeat this 3 times, slowly:  "Command.com is not Dos".  That
should help.  :)

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If I were to sell my 200LX 32meg DS, how much would it go for?

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> (Japan) has not been forth-coming (morphy).    Unfortunately, palmtops
> cannot be made from parts off the shelf (except possibly the Palm, for
which
> there seems to be a significant amount of parts available).
>
Okay, how about a Palm-type machine that's DOS-compatible? If the "Linux
DA" folks can stuff Linux into a Palm form factor, we can do the same for
DOS! We could approach the manufacturer of the Linux DA, and ask them to
produce a few thousand units with DOS burned in ROM instead of Linux.

Of course, the real work would be in developing the ROM image. Starting
with something like FreeDOS, we would need to develop an implementation
that runs most DOS applications, even though it's on an "alien" hardware
platform. Would it be necessary to actually emulate Intel hardware?

I know almost nothing about such matters, but it seems to me that the
really tough part would be making that tiny Palm screen usable by DOS
applications that expect CGA/EGA/VGA. What else?

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> for years i've been trying to run a very tiny
> accounting program under FoxBase2.0/2.1
snip
> happily over a network .. but found that
> even the compiled version (using Foxpcomp)
> with the ' .fox' extension ran rather slow !

Foxbase also works on the LX. I once tried an old copy but have since
deleted it because I did not need it. It is a whole lot smaller than
foxpro and would be a great choice for someone with space constraints.
I would also advise it for someone that already knows foxbase or dbase
as it's not a good interactive database.

> I guessed running FoxPro2x would be even slower. is that not so ?

I've noticed that Foxpro is actually a lot faster than foxbase for
many tasks (sorting, indexing, searching, etc). It uses extended
memory. It does take much longer to load than foxbase because it's a
large exec with an overlay. I'm also using it on a speed doubled LX so
YMMV.

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I tried to sell mine a while ago and it went as high as $470. It did
not meet my reserve and I chose to keep it as a backup instead. The
unit was not in great shape and needed a keyboard repair so I was
probably asking for too much. Units with less on-board memory   that
are in good shape and come with extras go for a lot of money, tho.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1295316402

Also try looking at ebay completed items to get an idea of final
purchase prices.


http://search-completed.ebay.com/search/search.dll?ht=1&query=200lx&So
rtProperty=MetaEndSort


It's amazing how much more a used 200LX is prized over similar WinCE
machines.


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>
>
> If I were to sell my 200LX 32meg DS, how much would it go for?
>
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> I think you miss the point.  It almost seems possible if we
> overlook a few things and think of it in the right way.  So we
> can talk about it as though it were possible and dream of doing
> it.

If my post were to motive at least the nay sayers to start this thread
again, then perhaps it would have accomplished a good thing.   It would at
least be on topic.     :-)

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> Okay, how about a Palm-type machine that's DOS-compatible? If the "Linux
> DA" folks can stuff Linux into a Palm form factor, we can do the same for
> DOS! We could approach the manufacturer of the Linux DA, and ask them to
> produce a few thousand units with DOS burned in ROM instead of Linux.
>
> Of course, the real work would be in developing the ROM image. Starting
> with something like FreeDOS, we would need to develop an implementation
> that runs most DOS applications, even though it's on an "alien" hardware
> platform. Would it be necessary to actually emulate Intel hardware?

Yes, the whole problem would be hardware.   The Palm hardware doesn't really
have enough juice to run an emulator succesfully, but if one was written,
the most likely candidates would be either the Mac OS or the Newton OS (I
don't remember whether the Newton used the same type of processor or not,
but I know the Mac does).

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> You misunderstood. I am sure no one objects to an occasional
> off topic message (with or without the OT: indication). But
> you posted a message with almost NO INFORMATION, just that you
> had a virus. That is alarming, don't you think?
> Avi M.
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Hi

Thank you very, very much for this reply: Now I my fears (relative to the
group) are gone.

But the message itself was very alarming.
        1.) The 'message' - no attachement!!! -
             I couldn't read, 'cause it's an executable
             from header to end.
        2.) The 'message' tried to redial to the internet,
             'cause it's an executable.
        3.) The message I couldn't delete, 'cause it's an executable.

Well, since now I haven't got it once more. The next I would arrange some
filtering.

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From: "Domingo" <dvm123@gmx.co.uk>
To: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>; <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:42 AM
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
>
>
> > I think you miss the point.  It almost seems possible if we
> > overlook a few things and think of it in the right way.  So
we
> > can talk about it as though it were possible and dream of
doing
> > it.
>
> If my post were to motive at least the nay sayers to start
this thread
> again, then perhaps it would have accomplished a good thing.
It would at
> least be on topic.     :-)

Making new 200lx's probably is possible if you get the volume
high enough and have the capital.  But we're talking about a lot
of capital.

Besides, those of us on this list already have 200lx's.  I have
3 of them.  Also a 100lx and 2 95lx's.  Why do we need new ones?

I don't want color.  It eats up batteries.  A backlight would be
nice but again it will drain the batteries faster and I do
pretty well without it.  I sure don't want anything that will
make it bigger or heavier.  I don't feel a need for a faster
cpu.  I could get a memory upgrade but I've never felt the need.
I never even bothered with the double speed upgrade.  It's fast
enough.

So I'm not sure what would induce me to buy a new one.  Well,
maybe if the case was off-white or pale yellow.  That might be
kind of nice.

They're perfect just as they are and everybody that wants one
has one and the rest will hear that it has dos and be afraid to
get near it.

But that doesn't mean it's not fun to contemplate what else we
might do.  I really wouldn't mind having 256 colors and vga
compatibility and a 386 and double the battery life.  Let's do
that.  And while we're at it let's make the screen twice as
large but make the whole unit half it's current size.  And also
add a second PCMCIA slot.  Or maybe a compact flash slot.  We
could mount a camera lens somewhere so it can take pictures and
build in a virtual 12" speaker so it can play MP3 and I think
DVD is essential.

Impossible, you say?  Ok.  Let's hear how you would do it. :)

Barry

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In an earlier off list msg to PK I presented the idea of a
"paper white" display. These were common in the mid-80's in the
beginnings of desktop publishing. These screens were a delight
to look at because they were so bright, being black characters
on white background.

I could never figure out why this display wasn't incorporated
into a palmtop since it all but eliminates the need for
backlighting. Were they CGA, EGA, VGA? I don't recall. I do
recall the amber CGA screens that were very bright compared to
the green. Anyone else remember these?

Bob Christopher     Littleton, Colorado USA     bob@palmtop.com

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> ....... It almost seems possible if we
> overlook a few things and think of it in the right way.  So we
> can talk about it as though it were possible and dream of doing
> it. If it were actually possible we'd either decide to do it or not
> to do it.  Nothing to dream about there.  At least not after
> it's done.  Not after it's decided not to do it.

This is solid feet-on-the-ground logic .. BUT barry, it IS being
done, no ? the japanese web page .. we can tell a bit more after
someone deciphers it .. Roger .. Rudi .. do you know japanese ?
the japanese web page of a palmtop look alike posted a few
days ago is very impressive .. but totally in japanese .. need help

> Science fiction about reaching the moon
> pretty much stopped after we did it.

strange .. true, never noticed it .. nowadays it about other places !

> Barry (the impossible dreamer)

that's a cute way of descibing yourself  :-)

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>From: "Tralornik" <Tralornik@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
>Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:07 PM

> Have you considered running:
> http://www.xt-ce.com/
> on your J720, and then running DOS and the connectivity pack on top of
that?

i've done it on the Lx360 .. loaded the Dos shell with xt-ce .. its nice,
cute, ok, made me feel sooo happy .. even tried out a few dos programs ..
acceptable .. didn't run the connectivity pack on top of that tho' ..

ARE you suggesting trying out linux on top of that .. would be an
adventure .. running an app on linux OS which is on top of the
dos OS which is on top of a WinCe OS .. whew ! i'me very
tempted to try it out .. only my lx360 is lying around .. its not
a 'suitable' thing ..

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From: "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:00 AM


> For Scriptures, if you are not aware...
> Tom Hoover has written "His Word" for the LX
> http://www.qsl.net/n5ntm/

> It uses data files from Online Bible
> http://www.onlinebible.net/
> I have on my LX both programs with...

what did i do NOW ? scriptures .. goodness .. i'm
talking about the Lx philosophy .. looks like it got
into an extended discussion .. philosophy of life
itself ! .. wow ! ..  :-))

the rest is Robert Meyer's use of the laptop :

(i must confess .. the uses to which this liliput
computer has been put are a revealation to me !
never even imagined that it was being used for
so many really critical jobs .. even space
shuttle ! .. amazing)


> AV 1769 ........
>  ..... Henry's commentary.



> Victor Beazel wrote:
> >
> > SanDisk about a third full of ebooks.  After loading the Scriptures onto
the
> > LX, I got tired of the long search-times trying to find a verse, so I
> > compiled a GDB-based Topical Guide that is very fast.  I love it when
another

oh ! i see .. this was in response to Victor's post !

..pk







> --
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i'm changing the subject Daniel .. new thread ..
i'm curious .. 'about god and the world as we germans say ' ..
what's it .. and i thought that we are too much given to
accepting everything in the name of fate and destiny as
ordained by the Almighty ..

tell me some more .. lite enlightenment  :-)

..pk

From: "Daniel Hertrich" <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:04 PM


> And besides that, we also want to talk a little bit "about god and the
> world" as we Germans say. And we do so, and no one is complaining.
> "and that is well this way" (as Klaus Wowereit, our mayor of Berlin
> has said when he told us that he is a gay) ;-)


;-)

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From: "David Becher" <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:01 AM


> Avi Meshar writes:
> > Sheesh! You guys will never forgive, heh? <VBG>
> >
> > I did not mean to slight HP95LX, I just made a mistake in
> > omitting it. Please, not the thumbscrews...
>
> Or worse - should we sentence him to (gasp!) a week using wince?

will he gasp or will he wince ! i wince under the pain  :-D

(sorry, it was too tempting to pass)

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From: "Daniel Hertrich" <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:04 PM

> Well - don't feel offended please, but as yourself say, you are
> repeating ... this gets  _slightly_ boring.

you ARE being modest ! Its too much really ! even i feel so .. and for
that reason i've started putting a warning so that such msgs can be
skipped by the uninterested ..

> Your philosophical "touch"

i am 'touched' by your good words Daniel .

>  I really think you  should simply repeat a bit less.

no offence taken .. point taken .. less repeats henceforth ..

> I at least was fairly impressed by your new point of view
> of the big  "Phenomenen" HPLX.

don't be impressed by my new point .. look at THE
phenomenon .. its not the Lx .. it everything the Lx has
brought about .. unplanned .. but happened .. and THAT
is what should be studied and made to happen .. planned !
(sorry, is that repeating ?)

> Yes, you _are_ persistent. ;-)

;-))


> I really think we are all followers.

i mean followers of MY views on what you have termed
'the' phenomenon

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Hi all !

a public apology is in order .. so i apologise !

it appears that i recd several msgs .. which i
replied .. but i addressed it to the list .. under
a misunderstanding ..

to all the good people who were interested
enough in my looong msgs .. and who emailed
to me .. i DID think that your msgs were being
forwarded to me by the list ..

if it hurt your feelings or offended you that i
posted a 'public' reply .. sorry again .. never
meant to do so .. won't happen again !

I AM INCLUDING GARY'S MSG BELOW
(with his permission) .. it will explain matters
a bit more ..



Hi Gary,
replying to you only ..  i take it this is a direct
mail to me

> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:10 AM
> Your enthusiasm on the palmtop mailing list is very refreshing

enthu .. refreshing .. i AM a fresher here !  :-)

>however I hope you will consider the following points.

your point is taken .. it was an overlooked point on my
part .. i mistook our list method .. and thought that it was
like yahoo clubs .. every msg is from the person posting ..
but in the 'To : ' section .. only my name is mentioned ..
actually the clubs on yahoo automatically forward it ..
sorry for the confusion .. won't happen again ..


> I notice you quoting a number of people who appear to have replied to you
in
> private. In general this is probably not a good idea unless they approve
it
> before hand.

come on ! its totally bad manners ! publishing pvt mail ! ugh !
i kept on at it .. looks like a public apology is in order ..
expalanations are explanatios .. but the damage is done !
i feel awful and silly !


> It would also be useful if you could edit your quoted messages
> down as a number of people use their palmtops to obtain this list (I know
I
> do when on travel).

this is a good tip .. will do !

thanks for the rest of your data based on experience !

..pk



>Having made these suggestions it is only fair that I tell you about my
>palmtop useage. I have been a palmtop user for over 5 years. I design
active
>optical remote sensing instruments and use the palmtop as an extended
>organiser and design tool. I have programs for electronic and optical
design,
>symbolic mathematics, satellite orbit determination, optical atmospheric
>propagation, laser design and eye safety, lidar (laser radar) sensitivity
>analysis and project managment as well as the more typical fax, email, appt
>and phone type applications. The instruments I have designed with the aid
of
>the palmtop have been designed for everything from ground based through
>aircraft to space based (space shuttle and satellite) operation. My
>employer also holds the altitude record for a 200LX (about 350km orbit
>height as a controller for an experiment on the space shuttle) although I
was
>not involved in that project.

Whew ! never even imagined so much ! Wow !

> And yes you can quote this on the list if you wish ;-)

gee ! thanks .. made my 'public' apology easier

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Mike Schneider wrote:
> If I were to sell my 200LX 32meg DS, how much would it go for?

$50 ... where should I send my check?  :-)

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ha ha ha...

for $50 I'll send you my Sharp EL-5500III.

It may not be DOS, but it does Basic. Does that count? :-)

Mike...

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Mike Schneider wrote:
> If I were to sell my 200LX 32meg DS, how much would it go for?

$50 ... where should I send my check?  :-)

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>
> Date:    Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:06:36 +0900
> From:    Akio HIKITA <chez-aki@COMLINK.NE.JP>
> Subject: A small trouble with "JKIT"
>
> Bonjour, Nathalie, Michel, Richard.
>  Thanks for your advices about the generating accented
> characters.  But I have a small trouble with "Jkit".
> When I type Japanese just after the accented characters
> the accented characters turn to another characters
> unreadable. If I put one bite space it's OK. But Japanese
> one space(two bites) causes a small trouble like that.
> It's just like  "a drop in the bucket" but I want to
> just report.
>
>  Akio

Kon'nichi wa Akio-san.

I have had *some* experience in Japanese computing. I might be able to
explain this although I don't know the details exactly; I apologize in
advance. Maybe someone else can correct me.

I don't know how much you know about ASCII so I'll start towards the
beginning. ASCII has 255 characters and each letter has a value, A=65,
B=66, and so on. Almost all english text has a value of 127 or less.
Extra characters like accented letters will have a value greater than
128, in the second half  of the ASCII table.

Japanese uses more than 255 'letters' (of course) so one way to handle
this is to use *2* ASCII characters for each Japanese character. There
are already a couple of standards that do this, like JIS, Shift JIS, NEC,
etc. I don't remember what JKIT uses, but I will use SJIS as an example.

For example, KANJI is written with 4 ASCII characters: KAN is 138 and 191
and JI is 142 and 154. In SJIS, the *first* ASCII character of any
Japanese character is always greater than 128. This makes it easy for
programmers to mix Japanese and english text in the same document.
Anytime the programmer sees a byte that's greater than 128, that byte and
the next byte should be used together to draw a Japanese character. If
the byte is less than 128, and the previous byte is also less than 128,
than that byts is treated as an english letter.

So I assume that your accented letters is treated as Japanese text,
especially when they are right next to each other and mess each other up.

I hope this makes sense. If not, let me know and I will explain it
better.

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Figured I would change the subject (G)

> FYI, I tried running the Connectivity pack on pocket dos eariler this year,
> but that didn't work. Of course I didn't put much effort into it. I am
> thinking about writing a Windows PIM that looks almost exactly like the
> Conn. Pack. Is there a demand for that? Do most of the 200LX users also use
> Windows? I wouldn't know how to sync though. :-(

I would guess that many users to use Windows in one incarnation or
another.

Knowing this group, I have no doubt folks would love it.  Have you seen
gbwin?  It was originally written in Japanese but a version with a lot
of the menus translated exists but there are still holes in the
translation and Menu or prompt boxes that are meaningless.

As for syncing - well, Curtis Cameron has produced an Outlook sync.

It would be nice to roll a lot of this stuff together, even if only with
some intermediary module of some kind.

Just my thoughts

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> If I were to sell my 200LX 32meg DS, how much would it go for?


WAIT!!! You were just offering to write a Windows Cpack for the HP! (G)

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At 12:00 AM 11/17/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Mike Schneider wrote:
> > If I were to sell my 200LX 32meg DS, how much would it go for?
>
>$50 ... where should I send my check?  :-)

I'll go $55

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Mike Schneider wrote:
>
> FYI, I tried running the Connectivity pack on pocket dos eariler this year,
> but that didn't work. Of course I didn't put much effort into it.

I tried under PocketDOS but APP200 froze the J720. I could not try
under XT-CE as the trial periode was over.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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For $50 send him and envelope to put the REAL check for the
Palmtop! <G>

  Avi M.


Mike Schneider wrote:
> ha ha ha...
>
> for $50 I'll send you my Sharp EL-5500III.
>
> It may not be DOS, but it does Basic. Does that count? :-)
>
> Mike...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.EduOn Behalf Of
> Russel Brooks
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:31 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
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>
> Mike Schneider wrote:
> > If I were to sell my 200LX 32meg DS, how much would it go for?
>
> $50 ... where should I send my check?  :-)
>
> Cheers... Russ
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David Becher wrote:
> Avi Meshar writes:
> > Sheesh! You guys will never forgive, heh? <VBG>
> >
> > I did not mean to slight HP95LX, I just made a mistake in
> > omitting it. Please, not the thumbscrews...
>
> Or worse - should we sentence him to (gasp!) a week using wince?

I want the thumbscrews, please! <VBG>

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Does anyone have a method for forcing Lotus 123 on the 200LX to open in its
high resolution mode. Currently I have to press Fn-Space every time which is
a nuisance.

TIA

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Laurence Harvey writes:
> Does anyone have a method for forcing Lotus 123 on the 200LX to open in its
> high resolution mode. Currently I have to press Fn-Space every time which is
> a nuisance.

I agree!  Please share with the list, if anyone knows.

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>  And while we're at it let's make the screen twice as
> large but make the whole unit half it's current size.  And also
> add a second PCMCIA slot.  Or maybe a compact flash slot.  We
> could mount a camera lens somewhere so it can take pictures and
> build in a virtual 12" speaker so it can play MP3 and I think
> DVD is essential.
>
> Impossible, you say?  Ok.  Let's hear how you would do it. :)

Actually, I've seen this on my own LX after a couple packs of cheap
beer.  I hear it also works on an ugly blind date.

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Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:43:18 -0500 (EST)

Hello All:

  I apologize for the OFF TOPIC Request, but I am desperate, and need
  to make a plea to the collective genius on the LIST.

  My main email address is getting SPAMMED by a collegue in Australia
  who seems to have contracted a VIRUS that keeps sending the same
  message over, and over, and over...well, you get the idea...I have
  not kept an accurate count, but over 200 in the last 24Hr at lease. I
  was able to reach them yesterday morning(their time) and they said
  they were working on it, but I'm still receiving posts this morning.

  Is there anyway I can TELNET to the POP server and delete all pending
  messages from a single address, or better, with a certain subject
  header, without having to download them? Sorry for my ignorance on
  the subject? FWIW the mail is served by an IBM virtual mainframe
  system.

  aTdHvAaNnKcSe & Cheers...AJKind


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Bob Christopher wwrote:
> In an earlier off list msg to PK I presented
> the idea of a "paper white" display. These
> were common in the mid-80's in the beginnings
> of desktop publishing. These screens were a
> delight to look at because they were so bright,
> being black characters on white background.
>
> I could never figure out why this display wasn't
> incorporated into a palmtop since it all but
> eliminates the need for backlighting. Were they
> CGA, EGA, VGA? I don't recall. I do recall the
> amber CGA screens that were very bright compared
> to the green. Anyone else remember these?

I remember the paper white displays.  A lot of them also had a
resolution that enabled them to portray a sheet of 8.5" x 11"
paper.  Some were shaped so they could portray 2 sheets of
paper.  They were mostly designed for use by word processors.  I
don't think I ever knew of one on a computer that wasn't
dedicated to word processing.

I found them unbearable.  After 10 minutes of looking at one my
eyes would begin to water.  A lot of people loved them but they
would be impossible for me to use.  They were a bright light
pointing at my face and I had to squint to see the letters on
that light.

Anyway they couldn't do that on a palmtop.  That was a CRT.  An
LCD display in those days didn't offer that possibility.  Today
my Palm 3c has a white background but that screen and it's
backlight uses a lot of power.

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pksharma wrote:
> This is solid feet-on-the-ground logic .. BUT barry,
> it IS being done, no ? the japanese web page .. we
> can tell a bit more after someone deciphers it .. Roger
> .. Rudi .. do you know japanese ? the japanese web
> page of a palmtop look alike posted a few days ago is
> very impressive .. but totally in japanese .. need help

I missed that.  Do you still have the url?

And I'm not saying it's impossible to make a 200lx.  After all,
HP made them.  But it takes a lot of money.  HP had a lot of
money.  If the people in this group have that kind of money
maybe we should consider buying HP.  Then we can build whatever
we want.

I suspect it can be had pretty cheap right now.

I can contribute $10.

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Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:20:54 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

  I have started to become a little more interested in eBay. it there a
  text gateway for viewing items?(I realize bidding has to be done thru
  secure channels).

  aTdHvAaNnKcSe & Cheers...AJKind

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Date:         Sat, 17 Nov 2001 18:58:15 +0100
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Hi!
On my Cassiopeia E-115 I am using a CF sized wireless network card
(Symbol)

I would like to have it in the machine that I use instead  :)

I tried it in the hp200lx just to see if it would fit or crash the
hp200lx.

It did fit nicely if I used a PCMCIA adapter

I then tried (with no hope for success) this bat file:
lxcic
lxen2216 0x66

The hp did not explode, but it looked as if it worked (but it did not).
The card was found and initialized etc etc.

So, what are the chance to get this thing to work?
Could any one tell me I am out of luck so that I can drop this idea.

Thanks.

      /tomas moberg
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Date:         Sat, 17 Nov 2001 10:36:03 -0800
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While a Windows CPack would be nice, doesn't the original one already run under
Windows?  I've run it successfully on every version of Windows except for XP
and ME, which I don't have to test.  Can anyone say if there is a Windows where
you can't run the CPack?

J. P. Grenert
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Hi.
I saw on the HPLX list that you are having video problems with the CPack under
Windows 2000.  I am using that setup and do not have any problems.  Perhaps
this will help:
When I originally, tried running CPack under Win2K, I could get the program to
start up, but once I got to the AppMan screen, it would just freeze up.  This
was strange to me, since it worked fine under Win98.  Then, I looked into the
APP200.BAT file, which actually starts up the program.  I toyed around with
things in there, and I ended up with a solution for me.  In the section which
loads the CGA video driver, I changed one line:

:RUNCG
cg.com /Q      <-----  This line
launcher.com
cg.com /Q
un200.exe -c

I removed the "/Q" part and it works fine now, including doing ALT-TAB back and
forth with Windows.  I don't know what the /Q setting does, but it doesn't
cause a problem.

Let me know if this works for you.
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Date:         Sat, 17 Nov 2001 18:37:29 +0530
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
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Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 8:30 PM
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> pksharma wrote:
> > This is solid feet-on-the-ground logic .. BUT barry,
> > it IS being done, no ? the japanese web page .. we
> > can tell a bit more after someone deciphers it .. Roger
> > .. Rudi .. do you know japanese ? the japanese web
> > page of a palmtop look alike posted a few days ago is
> > very impressive .. but totally in japanese .. need help
>
> I missed that.  Do you still have the url?



Yes :
http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525252520tech.htm

and the link works !

..pk

(rudi, roger ! know japanese ? cud u translate for us )
(this pda looks just like the Lx200 .. looks great !)

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Date:         Sat, 17 Nov 2001 16:35:34 -0500
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I have a Japanese teacher staying at my house who could translate this for
us. Unfortunately, she is at a conference in DC and won't be back to NC
until Sunday night.

Perhaps Monday night I can get it posted.

Jim


At 08:07 AM 11/17/01, you wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
>To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 8:30 PM
>Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy
>
>
> > pksharma wrote:
> > > This is solid feet-on-the-ground logic .. BUT barry,
> > > it IS being done, no ? the japanese web page .. we
> > > can tell a bit more after someone deciphers it .. Roger
> > > .. Rudi .. do you know japanese ? the japanese web
> > > page of a palmtop look alike posted a few days ago is
> > > very impressive .. but totally in japanese .. need help
> >
> > I missed that.  Do you still have the url?
>
>
>
>Yes :
>http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525252520tech.htm
>
>and the link works !
>
>..pk
>
>(rudi, roger ! know japanese ? cud u translate for us )
>(this pda looks just like the Lx200 .. looks great !)
>
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If you go to this url:
http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%25252525252520tech.htm

(It seems to have an extra "25" in the url from the one below.)

It shows this Instant Tech with what likes the CPack 200 running on it.

Also, on a search I found that Educalc offered this computer for sale in 1995.

Jim



At 08:07 AM 11/17/01, you wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
>To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 8:30 PM
>Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy
>
>
> > pksharma wrote:
> > > This is solid feet-on-the-ground logic .. BUT barry,
> > > it IS being done, no ? the japanese web page .. we
> > > can tell a bit more after someone deciphers it .. Roger
> > > .. Rudi .. do you know japanese ? the japanese web
> > > page of a palmtop look alike posted a few days ago is
> > > very impressive .. but totally in japanese .. need help
> >
> > I missed that.  Do you still have the url?
>
>
>
>Yes :
>http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525252520tech.htm
>
>and the link works !
>
>..pk
>
>(rudi, roger ! know japanese ? cud u translate for us )
>(this pda looks just like the Lx200 .. looks great !)
>
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Hi Ted and Laurence,

On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 08:17:24 -0500, Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET> wrote:

> > Does anyone have a method for forcing Lotus 123 on the 200LX to open in its
> > high resolution mode. Currently I have to press Fn-Space every time which is
> > a nuisance.

I have also need for such a feature. I doubt that it is configurable
from within 1-2-3 (have never really searched for it, though). So the
only way I can imagine is to create a system macro which invokes 1-2-3
and then does a Fn-Space and call 1-2-3 using that macro.
Using Exkey or some keystuffing / -mapping program it may even be
possible to put such a macro onto the 1-2-3 key.

GTX
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Date:         Sat, 17 Nov 2001 23:03:48 +0200
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Hi Al,

here is a message written by Stefan Peichl some time ago.
Maybe this is a starting point for you. I have never tried something
different than viewing items on the palmtop, though.

GTX
daniel

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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:10:51 +0000
From: Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject: eBay on the Palmtop
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

I'm new to eBay, but if I remember right, I thought, one could
not bid on the palmtop? I didn't try the initial bid on the HP,
but after my first bid I received a confirmation email through
POST/LX and later another, that someone had put a higher bid.

The second email contained a full URL to the subject I was
bidding for. I used the grab function of POST/LX (key G) and
appended the URL to HV.HOT. Then I entered HV, opened that URL
from HV.HOT and increased my bid. It worked with no problem.

Because I do all my email on the palmtop, this is a very
convenient way of bidding fast on the HP from wherever I am.

BTW: I'm informed by SMS about every new email I received.
I think these tools (Palmtop, WWW/LX, SMS) are close to perfect
for eBay stuff.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Nov 2001 23:29:25 +0100
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Jim Westley wrote:

> If you go to this url:
> http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%25252525252520tech.htm
>
> (It seems to have an extra "25" in the url from the one below.)
>
> It shows this Instant Tech with what likes the CPack 200 running on it.

Amikai, an online web-based translator translates the text above the CPack
pictures as:

"* KONEPAKU was put in.

Although are installed using INT5F and CGACG.COM, and both startings are
carried out, an application does not work so that a memory may be tight.
Especially the way of INT5F will be annoyed by too much lateness. It is a
starting screen once."

It's clears as mud (yet still useful for someone who knows very little
Japanese ;-), but I think it's a safe bet that KONEPAKU is the
Connectivity Pack software.


bye,

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I was actually thinking about a windows PIM, not a CPack. It would look
similar and use the same keystrokes, but it would run at windows speed, for
better or worse as it were. If there is no need, or if there is no interest
because of the lack of sync. I would understand.

The only reason I am even considering it is because I missed the PIM sooooo
much when I migrated from the 200Lx to the J720. Now I am migrating from the
J720 to a Sony Picturebook, and running the connectivity pack is an option. In
fact, possibly a more viable option than writing a new pim, since Curtis
already wrote a sync program.

Your thoughts?

Mike..

>===== Original Message From James Grenert <grenert@YAHOO.COM> =====
>While a Windows CPack would be nice, doesn't the original one already run
under
>Windows?  I've run it successfully on every version of Windows except for XP
>and ME, which I don't have to test.  Can anyone say if there is a Windows
where
>you can't run the CPack?
>
>J. P. Grenert
>grenert@yahoo.com
>
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Schneider" <mikeschn@AMERITECH.NET>


> I was actually thinking about a windows PIM, not a CPack. It would look
> similar and use the same keystrokes, but it would run at windows speed,
for
> better or worse as it were. If there is no need, or if there is no
interest
> because of the lack of sync. I would understand.
>
> The only reason I am even considering it is because I missed the PIM
sooooo
> much when I migrated from the 200Lx to the J720. Now I am migrating from
the
> J720 to a Sony Picturebook, and running the connectivity pack is an
option. In
> fact, possibly a more viable option than writing a new pim, since Curtis
> already wrote a sync program.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Mike..

Are you thinking about the HP PIMs for Windows?  You can get it at the link
below (copy it as one line):
http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl?dbname=hppim.zip&URL=http://ww
w.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/hppim.zip

HTH

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Before you laugh at this request, let me say that it is serious.  An
executive at a client recently decided he needs the "best" palmtop.
I was asked if I could make a suggestion, I guess since they always
see me carrying my HP200.

This guy is about as computer illiterate as they come, so I wouldn't
dare suggest a 200LX.  For example, a couple years back he had to get
a laptop (all the other executives carried one).  He got one, but
only carried around the case with papers in it - the laptop made it
too heavy.  As far as I know, he didn't use the laptop.  He reads/
sends e-mails by having his secretary print it out/type it in for him.
Once on a business trip we were sent to the airport to pick up an
urgent package for him - it turned out to be his e-mail that his
secretary printed for him!  You get the idea.

I would think the obvious choice would be a Palm or WinCE machine.  I
haven't been keeping up with these, however.  Could any of you who are
"up" on these units please drop me a note with any comments or
suggestions?

Thanks,

-Chris Lott



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On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Chris Lott wrote:

...

> I would think the obvious choice would be a Palm or WinCE machine.  I
> haven't been keeping up with these, however.  Could any of you who are
> "up" on these units please drop me a note with any comments or
> suggestions?

You don't think you could get away with giving him an etch-a-sketch in a
Palm casing? Sounds like it will be just as useful ;-)


bye,

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D&A kindly handed me over once more the Palrun source code,
because I wanted to make some improvements since I use it
more often on my notebook.

I made the following corrections and improvements:

- no more scrambled screens in PE after GOTO LINE or FIND AND
  REPLACE...

- scrolling up and down is fast now

- the whole writing to the screen is much faster now

Any more known bugs or suggestions I should look after?

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Lott" <rclott@RO.COM>


> I would think the obvious choice would be a Palm or WinCE machine.  I
> haven't been keeping up with these, however.  Could any of you who are
> "up" on these units please drop me a note with any comments or
> suggestions?

If he is that computer illiterate, a Palm would be the best choice (Wince is
overkill).    Narrowing the choice from there requires research on his part,
but any of the cheaper monochrome Palms would do for what you described
(Palm IIIx or Palm Vx).   However, the built-in Mail program would not do
for serious email use.   Again, some research on the choices available is
required.   Check  www.palmgear.com.
If graphity or an external keyboard are not an option, then Wince is the way
to go.   I know little about it.   For more comparative study of the
different platforms, check http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/

HTH

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VGA support.   IIRC, Palrun does not have it.   Palmpc is buggy, so not a
great alternative.

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Peichl" <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>


D&A kindly handed me over once more the Palrun source code,
because I wanted to make some improvements since I use it
more often on my notebook.

I made the following corrections and improvements:

- no more scrambled screens in PE after GOTO LINE or FIND AND
  REPLACE...

- scrolling up and down is fast now

- the whole writing to the screen is much faster now

Any more known bugs or suggestions I should look after?

Stefan

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Date:         Sat, 17 Nov 2001 22:35:04 -0500
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Would this be for Windows (95/98/NT/XP, etc, etc)  or Windows CE?

If for Windows (95/98/NT/XP, etc, etc)  then I think it would be GREAT !


----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack issues and thoughts


> I was actually thinking about a windows PIM, not a CPack. It would look
> similar and use the same keystrokes, but it would run at windows speed,
for
> better or worse as it were. If there is no need, or if there is no
interest
> because of the lack of sync. I would understand.
>
> The only reason I am even considering it is because I missed the PIM
sooooo
> much when I migrated from the 200Lx to the J720. Now I am migrating from
the
> J720 to a Sony Picturebook, and running the connectivity pack is an
option. In
> fact, possibly a more viable option than writing a new pim, since Curtis
> already wrote a sync program.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Mike..
>
> >===== Original Message From James Grenert <grenert@YAHOO.COM> =====
> >While a Windows CPack would be nice, doesn't the original one already run
> under
> >Windows?  I've run it successfully on every version of Windows except for
XP
> >and ME, which I don't have to test.  Can anyone say if there is a Windows
> where
> >you can't run the CPack?
> >
> >J. P. Grenert
> >grenert@yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> >Do You Yahoo!?
> >Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals
> >http://personals.yahoo.com
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James Grenert wrote:
>
> While a Windows CPack would be nice, doesn't the original one already run under
> Windows?  I've run it successfully on every version of Windows except for XP
> and ME, which I don't have to test.  Can anyone say if there is a Windows where
> you can't run the CPack?

Here it did run under WinME, WinNT and Win2K. I had to create a
multiboot environment allowing to boot into plain does however. Filer
would not transfer files over the serial cable in the DOS window under
Windoze.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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It would be for Windows (95/98/NT/XP, etc, etc)

Mike...

>===== Original Message From "Tralornik" <Tralornik@worldnet.att.net> =====
>Would this be for Windows (95/98/NT/XP, etc, etc)  or Windows CE?
>
>If for Windows (95/98/NT/XP, etc, etc)  then I think it would be GREAT !
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike Schneider" <mikeschn@AMERITECH.NET>
>To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
>Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 5:44 PM
>Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack issues and thoughts
>
>
>> I was actually thinking about a windows PIM, not a CPack. It would look
>> similar and use the same keystrokes, but it would run at windows speed,
>for
>> better or worse as it were. If there is no need, or if there is no
>interest
>> because of the lack of sync. I would understand.
>>
>> The only reason I am even considering it is because I missed the PIM
>sooooo
>> much when I migrated from the 200Lx to the J720. Now I am migrating from
>the
>> J720 to a Sony Picturebook, and running the connectivity pack is an
>option. In
>> fact, possibly a more viable option than writing a new pim, since Curtis
>> already wrote a sync program.
>>
>> Your thoughts?
>>
>> Mike..
>>
>> >===== Original Message From James Grenert <grenert@YAHOO.COM> =====
>> >While a Windows CPack would be nice, doesn't the original one already run
>> under
>> >Windows?  I've run it successfully on every version of Windows except for
>XP
>> >and ME, which I don't have to test.  Can anyone say if there is a Windows
>> where
>> >you can't run the CPack?
>> >
>> >J. P. Grenert
>> >grenert@yahoo.com
>> >
>> >
>> >__________________________________________________
>> >Do You Yahoo!?
>> >Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals
>> >http://personals.yahoo.com
>> >
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Hi Folks,

I'll make it simple <g>

MindMap/LX, TimeTracker/LX, and Quick/LX are now copyrighted
freeware.

You can download and use them freely.

The details were posted on D&A Sotware website Thursday/Friday
night, and announced first to the Mailing List (hint: This is
an incentive to join the list.)

There are a few changes to the site in addition:

- The splash page (index.html) was simplified to make it
easier to read and use. You can click on the rather largish
invitation to enter the main page.

- The splash page also has some useful links if that is all
you need.

- One of the links is called "File Index". It is a rather
exhaustive list of all the files we offer to you to download.
They are grouped roughly by product. Some of the files will
disappear, since they are contained in the ZIP archives.

- Also on the splash page someone will surely ask what the
meaning of the H link and the T link is. Click on them: H will
bring up the indexHV.html - the main page that HV users get
when they enter the site (I check out the identity of the
browser used.)

The T link stands for "Tony" <G>... You will see what he works
on - Roboweb/LX. Roboweb/LX of course has a prominent spot on
the main page (index1.html and the corresponding
indexHV.html).

- I believe all the pages that needed to be updated, were. If
you find otherwise, please feel free to notify me!

- Andreas just sent to me MindMap/LX 2.0 which has a few
things added, and I will try to upload it this weekend.

- The source code for these programs is not available, please
do not ask.

Enjoy!

  Avi Meshar
  D&A Software
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sat, 17 Nov 2001 23:13:48 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Lotus 123 Zoom Mode

Daniel Hertrich writes:
>
> I have also need for such a feature. I doubt that it is configurable
> from within 1-2-3 (have never really searched for it, though). So the
> only way I can imagine is to create a system macro which invokes 1-2-3
> and then does a Fn-Space and call 1-2-3 using that macro.
> Using Exkey or some keystuffing / -mapping program it may even be
> possible to put such a macro onto the 1-2-3 key.

That sounds like a possibility, but I don't think I want the feature
badly enough to put that much effort into it.  Thanks for thinking
about it, though.

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Stefan Peichl wrote:
>
> Any more known bugs or suggestions I should look after?

In the GUI screens of PIM/PE the appointment entries do not display
well (palmpc display is better). My secretary is complaining (g).

PALMPC displays the rectangular screen of the palmtop while PALRUN uses
full screen mode. I'm not sure about the advantages/disadvantages of
this.

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cut & pasted from my isp :

This is the Postfix program at host cal.vsnl.net.in.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.

For further assistance, please contact <postmaster@cal.vsnl.net.in>

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the message returned below.

The Postfix program

<sponsor@FTEL.NET>: connect to mail.ftel.net205.138.219.7: Connection
refused


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Hi Tomas,

On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 18:58:15 +0100, Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE> wrote:

> I then tried (with no hope for success) this bat file:
> lxcic
> lxen2216 0x66
>
> The hp did not explode, but it looked as if it worked (but it did not).
> The card was found and initialized etc etc.
>
> So, what are the chance to get this thing to work?
> Could any one tell me I am out of luck so that I can drop this idea.

Usually Wireless LAN cards draw too much power for the LX while
actively sending packets.
This might have changed with CF sized cards, but actually I doubt it.
Try to find technical specs for hte card!

Regarding initialization and communication issues, Stefan is probably
the one who can advise you.
I know that wlan cards have a mode in which they look to the system as
normal Ethernet cards, this makes necessary the use of the so-called ad hoc
mode. But I don't know if this is implemented in the card firmware or
if you have to use a driver for that purpose.

Good luck, and please report if you got it to work!

GTX
daniel



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Comments: To: daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE
In-Reply-To:  <HPLX-L%2001111807520810@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> from "Daniel
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> > The hp did not explode, but it looked as if it worked (but it did not).
> > The card was found and initialized etc etc.
>
> Usually Wireless LAN cards draw too much power for the LX while
> actively sending packets.

For testing, don't forget that you can supply power to the card using
the DoubleSlot adaptor and an external power supply.  Obviously not
useful for portable use, but it could at least demonstrate the
software feasability of your experiment.

-Chris Lott


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> > pksharma wrote:
> Yes :
>
http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%2525252525
20tech.htm
>
> and the link works !
>
> ..pk
>
> (rudi, roger ! know japanese ? cud u translate for us )
> (this pda looks just like the Lx200 .. looks great !)

Thanks for that link.  I'd like to know more about it, too.

But I'm not sure why you're having trouble reading it.  It seems
pretty clear to me.  It's a  h          palmtop.  The specs are
especially interesting:   q B @ @ @ @ @ .

I'm not sure how to translate the price of  " into American
Dollars, though.

Barry  (I can't believe I'm sending this)

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Chris Lott wrote:
> I would think the obvious choice would be a Palm
> or WinCE machine.  I haven't been keeping up with
> these, however.  Could any of you who are "up" on
> these units please drop me a note with any comments
> or suggestions?

I'm a little biased, having a Palm myself.  But for this guy I
think the Palm is the obvious choice.  It's simple to learn.  It
takes about 30 minutes practice to be very comfortable with
Graffiti.  After that you don't really have to learn to use the
Palm.  You just use it.  It's really all about simplicity.

There's also a tremendous amount of software available for it,
including things that cooperate with Office and just about any
other program.

I'm not really trying to tout the Palm as the better machine.
That depends on the user's needs.  But from your description of
this user I think it makes a lot of sense.

Barry

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> I've run it successfully on every version of Windows except for XP
> and ME, which I don't have to test.

I have run both the 100LX and 200LX Connectivity Packs under Win ME.

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After just a little work, I have been able to run the 100LX Connectivity =
Pack
on my Jornada 690 under XT-CE.  I modified the standard app100.bat by =
REMing
out both references to cg.com /q.  I was then able to run this batch file =
and
open CPack.  I opened and look around in my standard Appt, Phone, Notetake=
r, and
Database files.  I opened Calc, but got "insuficient memory" when I tried =
to
open a Solver file with a lot of formulas in it.  Filer will run as well. =
 I
could not get XT-CE to assign the Jornada's IR port to one of the DOS Com
ports.  I had hoped to make an IR connection between Filer on the 690 and
200LX, but I don't really need that.

Now I can keep the same PIM data on both machines without any conversion
hassels.

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On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 01:04:19 +0000 (GMT), Stefan Peichl wrote:

Stefan

You use a laptop with a pcmciamodem in the slot.

this is what I want to do:

My main desktop machine has a Isdn phone connected to Com1 which I use
to access the internet.

Then this machine is connected to my homenetwork so that all computers
hooked to the network can also access the internet.

The Hplx is also connected and it downloads mail and news just fine.
But it is a bit slow.

What I want to do is to move WWW/LX to the Hplx's memorycard. Stick the
memorycard into my laptop which is connected to the homenetwork and
download mails and news through the network with a much higher speed
than on the Hplx itself.

I tried to set this up a long time ago, but could not do it.

I run Win98SE on the laptop and the latest WWW/LX on the Hplx.

Problem: How to get WWW/LX to use the Pcmcia networkcard which is in
the other pcmcia slot on the laptop.

Have anyone tried something like this before? Can I do this in some
other way?

I could ofcourse set up WWW/LX on the main machine and then move the .i
files, but I would like to do the above if it is possible.

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Hi Martin

On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:45:04 -0500, Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM> wrote:

> I tried to set this up a long time ago, but could not do it.
>
> I run Win98SE on the laptop and the latest WWW/LX on the Hplx.
>
> Problem: How to get WWW/LX to use the Pcmcia networkcard which is in
> the other pcmcia slot on the laptop.

What was the problem?
Couldn't you access one of the cards anymore when you inserted the
second card?

But could you access each card if the other card was NOT inserted?

Then you might have an interrupt problem. The PCMCIA controller uses
one interrupt line and every inserted card needs another. So with two
cards in the slots, you need 3 IRQs at once. Maybe this was the
problem?

GTX
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I use an application launcher that does a keyboard macro to start it
zoomed. Wouldn't it be possible to use exkeys to launch 123 and then
do a fn-zoom right after. You can even assign this to the '123' key
using exkey. let's see.... yes, I reprogrammed the 123 key with this
entry on my exkey.ini file and it works:

{123}={123}{zoom}

I know that you could get exkey at palmtop.net but it seems that it's
not around any more. Every time I've tried to go there recently it's
gone. I think I just have the dumb luck to try it only when it's
temporarily down. It's somewhat disconcerting because
www.palmtoppaper.com is also down.... :-/ Hal did say that they're
doing maintenance on it, tho.

BTW: just realized that this will cause the zoom feature to toggle
every time you press 123. Still, it's easier than pressing fn-zoom as
you just have to press it again to zoom back.








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> Behalf Of
> Daniel Hertrich
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 4:04 PM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: Re: Lotus 123 Zoom Mode
>
>
> Hi Ted and Laurence,
>
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 08:17:24 -0500, Theodore Heise
> <theise@NETINS.NET> wrote:
>
> > > Does anyone have a method for forcing Lotus 123 on the
> 200LX to open in its
> > > high resolution mode. Currently I have to press
> Fn-Space every time which is
> > > a nuisance.
>
> I have also need for such a feature. I doubt that it is configurable
> from within 1-2-3 (have never really searched for it,
> though). So the
> only way I can imagine is to create a system macro which
> invokes 1-2-3
> and then does a Fn-Space and call 1-2-3 using that macro.
> Using Exkey or some keystuffing / -mapping program it may even be
> possible to put such a macro onto the 1-2-3 key.
>
> GTX
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Does this means Andreas is getting ready to leave us?
It seems you folks are not charging for very many things.  Is this the
beginning of the end?    :-(

Domingo

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MindMap/LX, TimeTracker/LX, and Quick/LX are now copyrighted
freeware.

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Hi Stefan,

On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 03:12:33 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> D&A kindly handed me over once more the Palrun source code,
> because I wanted to make some improvements since I use it
> more often on my notebook.
>
> I made the following corrections and improvements:

GREAT! I'm glad someone is still improving it!

IIRC I have had problems when using it on my laptop (HP Omnibook
800CT):
In Post/LX the screen mode seemed to switch to a kind of text mode when
switching from one view to another (e.g. message list to folder list or
when returning from PE to Post/LX after editing a message).

There were lots of coloured blocks (looked like ASCII character 177 or
so), some of them blinking, and if you watched the "picture" exactly,
you could eventually recognize the actual layout. But of course
couldn't read anything. I could try to send you a screenshot of that if
you think it could help you.

This was pretty annoying since I had to restart Post/LX everytime this
appeared. IIRC, it happened with Palrun as well as with Palmpc.

GTX
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A good suggestion.  I just tried the same, using the built-in key200
program (d:\bin\key200.com) and it worked.  When I press {123}, I
get 123 in the normal mode for a split second before it toggles over
to the hi-res mode.

My autoexec.bat has this line:

        key200 a:\key200.map

and the file a:\key200.map has several mapping lines to which I've
added this:

        123             :  123 Zoom

Works like a charm and is quite easily done with the built-ins, tho
as Ed pointed out, pressing 123 now also toggles the zoom mode,
tho that's not necessarily a bad thing.

- Longden

> I use an application launcher that does a keyboard macro to start it
> zoomed. Wouldn't it be possible to use exkeys to launch 123 and then
> do a fn-zoom right after. You can even assign this to the '123' key
> using exkey. let's see.... yes, I reprogrammed the 123 key with this
> entry on my exkey.ini file and it works:
>
> {123}={123}{zoom}
>
> BTW: just realized that this will cause the zoom feature to toggle
> every time you press 123. Still, it's easier than pressing fn-zoom as
> you just have to press it again to zoom back.

> > > > Does anyone have a method for forcing Lotus 123 on the
> > 200LX to open in its
> > > > high resolution mode. Currently I have to press
> > Fn-Space every time which is
> > > > a nuisance.

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Oops, it does have it, but it looks like blown out cga.  Do hplx programs
take advantage of the added space?  If not, then I don't seee the point of
that display.

Domingo

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> VGA support.   IIRC, Palrun does not have it.   Palmpc is buggy, so not a
> great alternative.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stefan Peichl" <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>

> Any more known bugs or suggestions I should look after?
>
> Stefan

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Hi Everyone

Charge, the replacement tsr for the built-in System Manager battery charging
system, has been updated with some bug fixes and features. If anyone hasn't
tried Charge out and would like to but hasn't been able to get it because
S.U.P.E.R. is having problems just send me an email. I'll attach it to you. I
also have a copy of BattLog which I can send along with it. Thanks.

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Hi Everyone

I have been using a Viking 56k analog cellular ready modem in my 200LX with the
Startac 7868W phone with absolutely no problems. It is a nice backup solution
in remote areas without digital coverage. Has anyone been using any other
cellular modems that work with the 200LX?

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Hi Domingo:  I had another message with speculation. I think
it is useless to speculate - it is like talking about sex
<G>...

As to what you wrote: The beginning of the end? NO!!! Does it
represent changes? Sure. The market for the products we
released as freeware is extremely narrow and to reduce fixed
expenses, we made these products freeware. It takes now a lot
less time (and expense) to sell TimeTracker/LX or MindMap/LX
for example <g>... If anyone has a product in their head (or
working) which he/she wants to sell through D&A, let me know!

So changes? yes! End? God, I hope not! (Nathalie, sorry for
using the word "God". No context, other than an exclamation,
intended. <g>...)

I remember that years ago, when the 300LX (Wince) came out,
people speculated it was "The End". That was years ago, and
plenty was done in this market since. So much for "The End"
proclamations. Maybe we'll see the end of "The End"
proclamations? <G>

  Avi M.


Domingo wrote:
> Does this means Andreas is getting ready to leave us?
> It seems you folks are not charging for very many things.  Is this the
> beginning of the end?    :-(

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Does anyone know how to create an Icon on Sys Mgr that opens the database
ALWAYS to a certain database?

In other words, I want one Icon that ALWAYS opens database A and one Icon
that ALWAYS opens database B.

I know I could do this through Macros, But I would rather have ICONS.

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Anybody know of any? One would work on the LX nicely.

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Look into thos new RIM/Blackberry pagers with wireless email,
contacts, etc. If he relies heavily on his secretary/assistant, that
won't change. It's too easy to call someone and say 'do this' than to
start doing it yourself (and time _is_ money, after all). What this
guy needs is better ways of saying 'do this' to people and getting the
feedback from their execution of his directives. Wireless email is the
killer app for this guy.

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 8:08 PM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: OT: "BEST" Palmtop for Executive?
>
>
> Before you laugh at this request, let me say that it is serious.  An
> executive at a client recently decided he needs the "best" palmtop.
> I was asked if I could make a suggestion, I guess since they always
> see me carrying my HP200.
>
> This guy is about as computer illiterate as they come, so I wouldn't
> dare suggest a 200LX.  For example, a couple years back he
> had to get
> a laptop (all the other executives carried one).  He got one, but
> only carried around the case with papers in it - the laptop made it
> too heavy.  As far as I know, he didn't use the laptop.  He reads/
> sends e-mails by having his secretary print it out/type it
> in for him.
> Once on a business trip we were sent to the airport to pick up an
> urgent package for him - it turned out to be his e-mail that his
> secretary printed for him!  You get the idea.
>
> I would think the obvious choice would be a Palm or WinCE
> machine.  I
> haven't been keeping up with these, however.  Could any of
> you who are
> "up" on these units please drop me a note with any comments or
> suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Chris Lott
>
>
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hi Chris,

On 17 Nov 2001 at 19:08, Chris Lott wrote:

> I would think the obvious choice would be a Palm or WinCE machine.  I
> haven't been keeping up with these, however.  Could any of you who are
> "up" on these units please drop me a note with any comments or
> suggestions?
>
after all you told us about this man, I would suggest him a new
dictation gadget. Or a WinCE machine with voice recording capability
;-)

cheers,
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Hear, hear....

--------reply seperator---------


Hi Domingo:  I had another message with speculation. I think
it is useless to speculate - it is like talking about sex
<G>...

As to what you wrote: The beginning of the end? NO!!! Does it
<snip>

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> Does anyone know how to create an Icon on Sys Mgr that opens the database
> ALWAYS to a certain database?
>
> In other words, I want one Icon that ALWAYS opens database A and one Icon
> that ALWAYS opens database B.
>
> I know I could do this through Macros, But I would rather have ICONS.

If you just want to view the databases, you could associate an icon with
the freeware dbv.exe (DB View) from the SUPER site.  The command line for
the icon would take the path and filename of the GDB/NDB you wanted to
open.

If you actually want to open the databases using the Database app, there
are several ways, but I use the OPEN.exe program along with kbuf128.sys
(works like some other keyboard stuffing programs but is small), and setup
an icon on SysMgr to run OPEN, again with the pathname and filename of the
database as the argument.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:55:09 -0500
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> After just a little work, I have been able to run the 100LX Connectivity=
 Pack
> on my Jornada 690 under XT-CE.

With further "playing", I found that I can't add a new appointment.  When =
I try
to add a new one, the whole XT-CE program shuts down and I end up back at =
the
WinCE main screen.  So, for now I will just use it for viewing my 200LX =
files.

 Steve Carder <steve@carderfamily.net>
 PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:21:06 +0100
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Steve Carder wrote:
>
> > I've run it successfully on every version of Windows except for XP
> > and ME, which I don't have to test.
>
> I have run both the 100LX and 200LX Connectivity Packs under Win ME.

could you transfer files ?

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:10:41 -0500
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Hi,

I have been running SMMx 1.00b beta on my HP200LX, DS/8MB/440MB for a few
years w/ only minor problems i.e., locks up when adding apps, etc. but now I
am experiencing a new problem.  When I try to run an app e.g., .exm, .exe,
etc. I get the following message displayed at the bottom left of the SMMx
screen "Not Free Table Block".  The app fails to run...any and all
suggestions welcomed.  FWIW I read the SMMx.doc but I failed to resolve the
problem.  Finally, is SMMx 1.00b beta the latest release?  I like SMMx but
this latest problem has me looking at alternative solutions.

--
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Date:         Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:25:59 -0800
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Can someone please advise me (off list) re: domains (parking,
activating, forwarding, etc..)  How does this stuff work?
Tommy

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Date:         Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:13:29 -0500
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:24:11 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi Martin

Hellu there..

> On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:45:04 -0500, Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM> wrote:
>
> > I tried to set this up a long time ago, but could not do it.
> >
> > I run Win98SE on the laptop and the latest WWW/LX on the Hplx.
> >
> > Problem: How to get WWW/LX to use the Pcmcia networkcard which is in
> > the other pcmcia slot on the laptop.
>
> What was the problem?

Well first what I do now:

Main desktop connected to internet and also connected to my home hub.

Hplx connected to hub running WWW/LX. This is my batchfile:

lxcic
e:
lxen2216 0x66
cd \
cd w
Www.exe isp_ether

I then can have the Hplx download mail/news while I surf the web on the
desktop.

What I want to do is to run WWW/LX on one of my machines that are
connected to my hub. I want to run it on a faster machine than my Hplx.

Either run it directly on the memorycard which I then insert in my
Hplx. Or run WWW/LX on one of the machines and transfer the files after
the online run to the card.

That way I can surf on my main machine and still download mail and news
with WWW/LX and much faster.

I can run WWW/LX on my main desktop machine and have it dial in and
connect, but then only WWW/LX "sees" the connection and I can not surf
while it does this.

How can I do what I want to do? Somebody mention a package which made
it possible for WWW/LX to use the "normal" connection that I have.

Please advice. I have the necessary hardware but need some software to
make this happend.

> Couldn't you access one of the cards anymore when you inserted the
> second card?
>
> But could you access each card if the other card was NOT inserted?

I think it will be to complicated to do it this way. I need a
softwarepackage that runs on the laptop in Win 98 that lets WWW/LX on
the inserted memorycard access the internet through the network.

> Then you might have an interrupt problem. The PCMCIA controller uses
> one interrupt line and every inserted card needs another. So with two
> cards in the slots, you need 3 IRQs at once. Maybe this was the
> problem?

I do not think I can get it to work this way. I will try some more
setting up WWW/LX on the laptop and then use Lxcic, Lxen2216 and
dhcp.exe.

But there must be some other clever way of doing this. All I want to do
is to run WWW/LX on the connection that are already there through the
network.

Regards

--
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Date:         Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:16:17 -0500
Reply-To:     Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
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I was going to simply ignore the beginining of Avi's reply, since I did not
understand it, but since it appears John understood it, what was Avi
refering to?   I was not asking about speculation, but about the future of
D&A and Andreas intentions, since it seems he won't be making much money for
much longer.   What with giving away  everything and all  .  .  .

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Musielewicz" <jmusielewicz@PALMTOP.COM>


> Hear, hear....
>
> --------reply seperator---------
>
>
> Hi Domingo:  I had another message with speculation. I think
> it is useless to speculate - it is like talking about sex
> <G>...
>
> As to what you wrote: The beginning of the end? NO!!! Does it
> <snip>

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Date:         Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:35:54 +0800
Reply-To:     "R.S." <roger_shea@I-CABLE.COM>
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Comments: To: pksharma <pksharma@CAL.VSNL.NET.IN>
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Here is the spec for Instant tech PTV-30.
I thought I'd sent it to the list, hmmm....?

Sorry I can't read Japanese.

Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.S." <roger_shea@i-cable.com>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; "Daniel
Hertrich" <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications


> The machine is too big compare to HP200LX, it has almost
the
> same hardware spec as HP200LX.
> Here are the details:
> CPU              V30 7.16Mhz=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1=
@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@.
> Memory ROM     1.5MB, RAM 2MB
> Display         CGA 640 x 200 dot
> Keyboard=A1@=A1@     Qwerty 82 Key
> Battery         AA x 2 CR 2025
> I/O =BC=D0=B7=C7=A1@    Serial & Pararel
> OS MS-DOS 5.0
> PCMCIA Type 2 x 2
> Size 235 x 116 x 31 mm
> Weight 600 g
> Built-in MS work 2.0 - and thus very little memory left
for
> user.
> Compare to HP200lx, the baterry life is short specially
when the memory card is pluged in.
> and it's too big, too heavy and no numeric
> keypad. Booting process from any memory card is slow.
> It has 2 PCMCIA slots - but it doesn't recognize my 8M
CARRY
> PCMCIA memory card, the 48M Sandisk is ok.
> bigger key size - but can't do thumb typing.
>
> The screen you saw is the CPack running on that machine,
> according to the author it is slow.
>
> Roger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Hertrich" <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications
>
>
> > Hi Roger
> >
> > On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:06:27 +0800, "R.S."
> <roger_shea@I-CABLE.COM> wrote:
> >
> > > Check this site out,
> > >
>
http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525
> > > 25252520tech.htm
> > > But it is very slow.
> >
> > WOW, what is this?? I cannot read anything of course ;-)
> Just see the
> > images.
> > How did they get the Application manager into that
device?
> > What are the specs?
> >
> > GTX
> > daniel
> >
> >
> > --
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Other thing is that the resale value of every license of MindMap/LX, TimeTracker/LX and Quick/LX just went to zero.

But, never mind that. I agree that it's great to have great free software, but I can't see how selling these licenses was
much hard work, through Paypal or Billpoint or anywhere else. If anything, the amount of work would depend on the
intricacies of the copy protection system. Never seems to have stopped the guy who made Buddy.

Not that I expect a clear answer, but it would nice. I love to help and pay for software and give feedback when it's
valued. Will feedback have the same value with all this software being copywrited freeware? I could hear how someone would
be told "hey, stop complaining: it's free". Heck, on the other hand, every time I gave feedback I ended up feeling like it
was summarily dismissed as "feature cramming" or something similar and then regretting I ever got into it.

Which is why you never hear me give feedback ever anymore. I can tell when a creator or writer truly wants feedback, and
that's never been the case with the D&A software, AFAIK.

Thanks,

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Domingo" <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: D&A Software Announces ....


> Does this means Andreas is getting ready to leave us?
> It seems you folks are not charging for very many things.  Is this the
> beginning of the end?    :-(
>
> Domingo
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D&A Software Support" <info@DASOFT.COM>
>
>
> MindMap/LX, TimeTracker/LX, and Quick/LX are now copyrighted
> freeware.
>
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Trying to use WWW on my laptop but computer is hanging(needing power off =
& reboot to regain control).

The trouble occurs when I attempt to go Online(F5). Not sure if I have =
the correct Port for my internal modem?(assume COM 3 =3D PORT 3?).

First time user visa vi Laptop & Palmtop software so I need some very =
basic guidance or point in the direction to where it has already been =
spelt out before.

Thanks in anticipation.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Trying to use WWW on my laptop but =
computer is=20
hanging(needing power off &amp; reboot to regain control).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The trouble occurs when I attempt to go =
Online(F5).=20
Not sure if I have the correct Port for my internal modem?(assume COM 3 =
=3D PORT=20
3?).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First time user visa vi Laptop &amp; =
Palmtop=20
software so I need some very basic guidance or point in the direction to =
where=20
it has already been spelt out before.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks in =
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Date:         Mon, 19 Nov 2001 04:24:31 +0000
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Bob

> Office Depot here in Richmond, VA has a 4 pack for $8.99. |-)

Thanks for the good info.  I just checked at the Office Depot here in =
Amarillo and got the same price!

Larry

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Date:         Mon, 19 Nov 2001 05:27:33 +0000
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Hi Stefan,

>>Any more known bugs or suggestions I should look after?<<

What about emulating the <Menu> key with <alt><m>? Not all programs
work with / to reach palmtop menus... That was implemented before, but
never worked stable, if I remember right.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to Palrun 1.5 (if I count right <G>)

   Bye for now  Gottfried

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Is there a limit on the size of cards supported by a 100LX ?

Also would the card described below require a driver?

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ken Hansen=20
  To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 1:39 PM
  Subject: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay


  Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a customer) is selling new San Disk =
220 Flash Disk cards for $50/ea - they have several with buy-it-now =
prices at $50. Do a search on the seller - "ssinc1500".

  I bought several items from them, and have always been happy...

  Here is a link to the one I bought, click on "View other auctions for =
this seller" to see others... =
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1294724938

  Ken

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Is there a limit on the size of cards supported by a =
100LX=20
?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Also would the card described below require a=20
driver?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dn2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET =
href=3D"mailto:n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET">Ken=20
  Hansen</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3DHPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu=20
  href=3D"mailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu">HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 10, =
2001 1:39=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> low-cost 220 SanDisk =
cards on=20
  eBay</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a =
customer) is=20
  selling new San Disk 220 Flash Disk cards for $50/ea - they have =
several with=20
  buy-it-now prices at $50. Do a search on the seller -=20
"ssinc1500".</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I bought several items from them, and =
have always=20
  been happy...</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here is a link to the one I bought, =
click on=20
  "View other auctions for this seller" to see others... <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=3D1294=
724938">http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=3D1294=
724938</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Date:         Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:23:36 -0800
Reply-To:     James Grenert <grenert@YAHOO.COM>
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regarding CPack use under Windows
> could you transfer files ?
To tell you the truth, I've never tried.  My desktop has a flash card reader,
and my laptops of course have PCMCIA slots, so I just pop the flash card into
the reader and I can read them just like another hard disk.
I think HP Staber said that you need to boot to DOS to get the serial
connection working (i. e., it doesn't work under Windows).

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@yahoo.com


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Date:         Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:09:18 +0200
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The cable is sold!

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Thanks for the specs, Roger.

So the main differences are the 2 PCMCIA slots, the parallel port and
the size and weight.

GTX
daniel


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Danie hertrich wrote:
<<snip

>
> Thanks for the specs, Roger.
>
> So the main differences are the 2 PCMCIA slots, the parallel port and
> the size and weight.

And don't forget it has a V30 processor!!! It can also run 8080 instructions
So for the real diehard CP/M oldies, they can run their old CPM programs in
native mode!!

Michel ( just gave away my old Epson PX-8 last year :-(

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Hey guys,

I use a Lexar USB card reader to copy my files from my 200LX to my desktop.
I use Win2K and upgraded my driver to the Win2K driver on the Lexar site.
However, twice now, I placed my PCMCIA card in the reader, and the reader
wiped it clean. Has anyone else ever had such a problem?

My fix was to reformat the harddrive and reload windows. I also back up my
card more regularly now. :-( Still, I'm concerned that the culprit that
cleaned off my flash card is going to return some day. Any thoughts or
ideas?

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Hallo Alex,

I have an older laptop (Mitac 4020), which has a similar problem. I
can work with WWW and POST. It is _not possible_ to use ROBOWEB.
Entering GET.EXE, the machine is hanging like you wrote. I have no
solution for the problem. On my other laptop all programs work fine.

Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
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Trying to use WWW on my laptop but computer is hanging(needing power
off & reboot to regain control).

The trouble occurs when I attempt to go Online(F5). Not sure if I
have the correct Port for my internal modem?(assume COM 3 =3D PORT 3?).

First time user visa vi Laptop & Palmtop software so I need some very
basic guidance or point in the direction to where it has already been
spelt out before.

Thanks in anticipation.


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Hallo,

this subject may have beeb discussed, however I 'm posing the
question. How to convert the xls dates (contacts) to a modified
pdb database Anyone can help ? Thanks

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Office Depot has a special on the SanDisk 128MB CF for $84.99.  Flyer =
states
that prices are good through 11/24/01.

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Steve Carder wrote:
>
> After just a little work, I have been able to run the 100LX Connectivity Pack
> on my Jornada 690 under XT-CE.  I modified the standard app100.bat by REMing
> out both references to cg.com /q.

Confirm the same with a J720. I was able to launch CPACKin a B&W screen
- speed is rather slow.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> In Post/LX the screen mode seemed to switch to a kind of text mode when
> switching from one view to another (e.g. message list to folder list or
> when returning from PE to Post/LX after editing a message).

I fixed that but now another problem raises: If you spawn to
DOS from POST/LX, the screen mode is no longer changed to CGA
text, but remains VGA graphic. No problem if you don't change
the screen mode in the DOS shell, but if you do and exit from
the shell, POST/LX or PE are running in the screen mode you
have set in DOS. Don't know how to fix that :-(

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Domingo wrote:

> Oops, it does have it, but it looks like blown out cga.  Do hplx =
programs
> take advantage of the added space?

PE, HV and POST/LX use the 640x480 VGA screen. I added the
800x600 UGA mode to PALRUN, but cannot yet convince Andreas'
programs to detect it ;-)

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I can't understand why anyone would see this as the end. D&A has been releasing
freeware for years. True you can't buy these machines new anymore but that is
only because HP screwed up and discontinued the line. If HP would wake up and
see what a good competitor they have, it would be pretty easy with present day
technology and some of the old-fashioned HP innovation to release a x86 200LX
with a much faster processor and color screen that could run anything and just
take over the palmtop market. Its still the smallest notebook computer in the
world.

John

-----------------reply seperator------------
I was going to simply ignore the beginining of Avi's reply, since I did not
understand it, but since it appears John understood it, what was Avi
refering to?   I was not asking about speculation, but about the future of
D&A and Andreas intentions, since it seems he won't be making much money for
much longer.   What with giving away  everything and all  .  .  .

Domingo

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> Hear, hear....
>
> --------reply seperator---------
>
>
> Hi Domingo:  I had another message with speculation. I think
> it is useless to speculate - it is like talking about sex
> <G>...
>
> As to what you wrote: The beginning of the end? NO!!! Does it
> <snip>

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 Hi, Chris,
I don't know that it sounds like he would use ...any... PDA, but I would avoid WinCE, which I find to be a complex OS, esp. for technophobes. The Palm is one of the easier PDAs to use, yet I just cannot see this guy using Graffiti. I echo the recommendation on the Blackberry. If you can use the selection wheel, you are good to go. Synchronization with Outlook is strong. There is a version that allows calendar changes made to Outlook or the device to be updated to the other via wireless. (Good for "secretary mode"). Keyboard is small, but functional and easier to learn than a funky new form of "handwriting" would be on a device like the Palm. I know a lot of people who are comfortable on a Blackberry that have never used any other PDA.
- W
I would think the obvious choice would be a Palm or WinCE
> machine.  I
> haven't been keeping up with these, however.  Could any of
> you who are
> "up" on these units please drop me a note with any comments or
> suggestions?




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<P>I don't know that it sounds like he would use&nbsp;...any... PDA, but I would avoid WinCE, which I find to be&nbsp;a complex OS, esp. for technophobes. The Palm is one of the easier PDAs to use, yet I just cannot see this guy using Graffiti. I echo the recommendation on the Blackberry. If you can use the selection wheel, you are good to go. Synchronization with Outlook is strong. There is a version that allows calendar changes made to Outlook or the device to be updated to the other via wireless. (Good for "secretary mode"). Keyboard is small, but functional and easier to learn than a funky new form of "handwriting" would be on a device like the Palm. I know a lot of people who are comfortable on a Blackberry that have never used any other PDA.
<P>- W
<P>I would think the obvious choice would be a Palm or WinCE<BR>&gt; machine.&nbsp; I<BR>&gt; haven't been keeping up with these, however.&nbsp; Could any of<BR>&gt; you who are<BR>&gt; "up" on these units please drop me a note with any comments or<BR>&gt; suggestions?<BR></P><BR><BR><P>Wayne E. Yang<BR>=============<BR><A href="mailto:wayne_yang@yahoo.com">wayne_yang@yahoo.com</A></P><p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
Find the one for you at <a
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Does the connectivity pack "Synchronize" the desktop
and palmtop NoteTaker, Phone, Appts Databases, etc?

Does it do it well (or does it create lots of
duplicates) ?

Lastly, does it handle custom DB's and does it
synchronized them as well?

Thanks





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> Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> > In Post/LX the screen mode seemed to switch to a kind of text mode when
> > switching from one view to another (e.g. message list to folder list or
> > when returning from PE to Post/LX after editing a message).
>
> I fixed that but now another problem raises: If you spawn to
> DOS from POST/LX, the screen mode is no longer changed to CGA
> text, but remains VGA graphic. No problem if you don't change
> the screen mode in the DOS shell, but if you do and exit from
> the shell, POST/LX or PE are running in the screen mode you
> have set in DOS. Don't know how to fix that :-(


Actually, that sounds like it might be okay since when I use Post/www on
the desktop, I can rarely get a consistent screen (window) size -
sometimes it is full screen dos session and sometimes it is a WINDOW.
And sometimes as Post goes online through www, the screen changes modes
from graphic to text to graphic and the SCREEN MODE can wind up
anywhere.  Maybe this way it will stay WINDOWED???  I prefer windowed
and not full screen.

I will note that I have some control - If I'm running MS word 5.5 and
have the cursor on that window while Post is calling www and then back
into Post, POST will usually stay as a window and not pop back to full
screen mode.

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Thanks J.P.!
That worked and I can now ALT-TAB between the sessions.
bob
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> :RUNCG
> cg.com /Q      <-----  This line
> launcher.com
> cg.com /Q
> un200.exe -c
>
> I removed the "/Q" part and it works fine now, including doing ALT-TAB
back and
> forth with Windows.  I don't know what the /Q setting does, but it doesn't
> cause a problem.
>
> Let me know if this works for you.
> J. P. Grenert

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OOPS!
I spoke too soon.  It worked once, but not the second or subsequent time.
I'm running Win2000 if that makes a difference.
I got the message "C_pack - FROZEN".
bob
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> Thanks J.P.!
> That worked and I can now ALT-TAB between the sessions.
> bob

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Hi all,
        I attempted to obtain a copy of the PAL library from the
S.U.P.E.R. site, but was unable to do so... got a <<page not found>>
message instead.  If someone has a copy of this library that they can send
to me off-list, I would much appreciate it.  It's freeware of course...
                                        thanks!
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> I have started to become a little more interested in eBay. it there a
>   text gateway for viewing items?(I realize bidding has to be done thru
>   secure channels).
>
Hi, Al!

Try this link to view eBay on the palmtop:
http://catalyst.2roam.com/www.ebay.com

Digital Paths will interactively strip a Website down to text-only:
http://www.digitalpaths.net/wince/pie10.htm

If you're feeling adventurous, try IBM Research's "transcoding proxy" at:
http://www.research.ibm.com/networked_data_systems/transcoding/Demos/demos.html

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Barry wrote:

>> my bluner
>
> Repeat this 3 times, slowly:  "Command.com is not Dos".  That
> should help.  :)

done. (mor than 3 times. :)

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Steve wrote:

>> my AD for ic.com
> using CMDSPY and INTERSPY from "Undocumented MS-DOS" to

I have  CMDSPY and INTRSPY (the same?) on my palmtop as well as
INTERCEP.EXE & INTERPRE.EXE. But, no. I'm never willing to
re-invent the wheel. I think, the major reason why CMDSPY was
separated from INTRSPY is that safely calling DOS service from
a TSR is very difficult if possible. I've used once in a while
INTERCEP.EXE that protocols all interrupts with detailed comments.
But I'll have to reboot after I use it every time. Tasks which
cannot be well achieved in such approaches are for example:

1. How does one know that the PC is "loosing its heart-beats"
   or "having irregular heart-beats"? (How do I call it in Latin?)
   Solution:

       ic 08
   or
       ic 1c

2. How does one know, without searching through all documents
   of all utilities currently being used, that the INT 08H
   frequency has been modified and that the hardware heart-beat
   08h and the software heart-beat are functioning well?
   Solution:

       ic 08
       ic 1c /2

3. How does one disable the Ctrl-P (print screen), so that
   mistyping a Ctrl-P won't block the whole system. (I have
   to disable it on my Compaq LTE ELITE, otherwise I'll have
   to reboot.) Solution:

        ic 5 /t

4. How do I stop "BACKUP BATTERY LOW" on my 100/200LX?
   but still keep myself being informed about the event?
   Solution:

        ic 6 ah=7 /nf

5. How do I stop "CARD BATTERY LOW" on my 100/200LX cmpletely
   because I do not have a battery there? Solution:

        ic 6 ah=8 /ns

6. How do I stop beeping of the palmtop? Incomplete solution:
   (incomplete, because one never could do this without degrading
   the performance of a PC.)

        ic 10 ah=0e al=7 /t
        ic 29 al=7 /t /2

7. How do I verify the correctness of catching the event of
   pulling-out or plugging in the AC-adapter? Solution:

        ic 0a hornet=56,80 /f

8. How do I monitor, akustically and intuitively what's going
   on in IRQ2 on my 100/200LX palmtop? Solution:

        ic 0a

9. How do I identify and prevent the applications from ....
   my palmtop? Solution: ic.com

And because IC.COM never does anything dangeous. It never
crashes the system unter correct usage.
again, *warning* these were AD's :)

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Stefan wrote:
> Nan-Shan Chen wrote:
>
> > Still, the only program I know which checks
> > for free disk space before copying a file is: list.com
> > It will refuse to copy.
>
> Now this is extremely bad news! LIST.COM is my one and only
> Command Center. I use it xx times a day to do virtually
> everything on the palmtop. This diminishes my interest in
> this subject to 0.01% :-( I'm not ready to give up LIST!

Well, ... :(  In order to keep you there, I'll have to claim
the following.

1. IRET'ing 36h means returning undefined, thus random, values
   in AX to DX. This is equivalent to reporting a false, but
   large enough value to LIST.COM, so that it won't abort the
   request.

2. We can assume (in fact, I've checked) that the author,
   Vernon D. Buerg will check returned code after a write
   operation. (Only very very very very lazy authors will
   not do this.)

Furthermore,

       Once a decision is made to write to the disk,
       checking for free disk space is *redundant* for
       the write operation and thus does not affect a
       normal write operations. And this remain pratically
       true, so long no one could provide a counterexample.

So, I've made the statement a little bit provocative.
Let's let it be a challenge and see what happens. :)
So, I was also claiming that the 36h is "informative"
but cannot cause damages. If a wrong value could cause
damages, which is equvalent to disabling the service
or reporting a flase value, then ... (see the followiung
from the page:)

       http://www.ise.ufl.edu/esi4161/files/DOSMAN/chap4.txt

36h  Get Disk Free Space
     get information on specified drive
(snip ...)
note (snip ...)

3) Function 36h returns an incorrect value after an ASSIGN command. Prior
   to ASSIGN, the DX register contains 0943h on return, which is the free
   space in clusters on the HC diskette. After ASSIGN, even with no
   parameters, 0901h is returned in the DX register; this is an incorrect
   value. Similar results occur with DD diskettes on a PC-XT or a PC-AT.
   This occurs only when the disk is not the default drive. Results are as
   expected when the drive is the default drive. Therefore, the
   circumvention is to make the desired drive the default drive prior to
   issuing this function call.
4) Int 21h, function call 36h returns an incorrect value after an ASSIGN
   command. Prior to ASSIGN, the DX register contains 0943h on return,
   which is the free space in clusters on the HC diskette. After ASSIGN,
   even with no parameters, 0901h is returned in the DX register; this is
   an incorrect value. Similar results occur with DD diskettes on a PC-XT
   or a PC-AT. This occurs only when the disk is not the default drive.
   Results are as expected when the drive is the default drive. Therefore,
   the circumvention is to make the desired drive the default drive prior
   to issuing this function call.


Rudi

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Hi,

Sorry, if this is already asked. I just got rejected by the
list-server again. The reason was the mail was sent using
the alias (upd.de) instead of (uni-paderborn.de) over which
I do not have control. So, what I've just done is to subscribe
once again using "upb.de". Am I doing it right? Is this again
a blunder on my site. (I've been kicked off the list a couple
of times.)

Also, because I'm using "elm" on a UNIX-box, I have been using
a "g" for "group-reply" to follow an article on the list. Am I
doing this right? Is there a better option?

I apologize for sending two copies to those people involved,
especially when I got rejected (either too long or, this time,
the domsin-alias was not accepted).  I do not seem to be able
to edit To: and Cc: fields under elm ... :(

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I'm following my own message.

And, I get confused. I got 3 three rejections from the
list-server telling me I'm not authorized to post. So,
I subsribed once again and reposted ("group-reply) those
three (see previous post). But I've just found in my
folder 6 posts of mine to the list. Are you see the same?
That is, those "rejected" posts appeared again?

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<fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> Actually, that sounds like it might be okay since when I use Post/www =
on
> the desktop, I can rarely get a consistent screen (window) size -
> sometimes it is full screen dos session and sometimes it is a WINDOW.

I know this behavior of WinXX and finally found out how it
works. A DOS window is always started in CGA text mode. You may
switch to any other text mode without loosing the window.

But the first switch to a graphics mode results in a full
screen DOS box, from which you can Alt-Enter back to a DOS
window. You may now switch to any other graphics mode in this
window. And you may switch back to a text mode.

OK, more analytic:

text    -> text       within window
text    -> graphic    always full screen
graphic -> text       within window
graphic -> graphic    within window

Because PAL applications always use graphics mode, there will
be at least one automatic switch to full screen, unless the
window was already in a graphics mode.

I tried to feed to the key buffer the Alt-Enter keycode, to
switch automatically back to a window, but WinXX eats this
keysequence only from the keyboard, not the buffer :-(

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Date:         Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:42:55 +0200
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Hi friends,

a minor update on the mobile HPLX homepage:

I added a "short phone overview" which describes the advantages and
disadvantages of Nokia, Siemens and Ericsson phones shortly.

This shall help to lead someone who considers buying a new phone
into the right direction.

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx

GTX
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Fry's is selling 128 MB CF for $39.95

-Mike


On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Ron Burnett wrote:

> From: Ron Burnett <ronburnett@COMPUSERVE.COM>
> Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD
>
> Office Depot has a special on the SanDisk 128MB CF for $84.99.  Flyer states
> that prices are good through 11/24/01.

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Anybody know if there are any products of Bluetooth for HP200?
Bing

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With all these post on low flash prices, I wonder whether anyone has seen
low prices on a 500 meg CF or PCMCIA flash card.

TIA

Domingo

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I used to be a BIG fan of rechargeables until I got a new 200LX
with double speed and the 32MB upgrade.  Since then, the NiMH's
just don't give me enough time between charges.

So I wondered around aimlessly between different alkaline
batteries.  I would use whatever brand I could get my hands on
at the time.  The run hours of the different brand alkalines
variaied greatly so I never knew what I was going to get.

During this wandering period, I also used many sets of the
Eveready Lithium batteries and always got excellent service
from them.  My run hours (according to Volt/LX) were usually in
the 30+ hour range.  But these batteries are much more
expensive and much harder to find than regular alkalines.  I
still prefer the Lithium batteries and use them whenever I can.

As for cost, I have seem the prices vary on the Eveready
Lithium batteries quite a bit.  Home Depot used to have a good
price and Radio Shack was always way too expensive.  I cheat
now by getting my Lithium batteries from the supply closet at
work.  Since I am in charge of that closet, I just make sure
there is always some in stock.  ;-

BTW, The new packaging of the Eveready Lithium batteries is now
Blue and Silver, they don't use the Red and Gold anymore.

Right now, I am back to experimenting with rechargeables again.
 So far, I am still getting lousy run times between charges.  I
always keep a pair of the Lithium batteries handy as spares,
though.


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Hello,

I've got a HP200lx (was 1MB model) that has been upgraded to 5MB internal
Storage for sale - it comes with the following accessories:

original manual
Black EB Case
Connectivity Kit w/ cable, all adapters, disks, manual
EXP 14.4 Thinfax modem with 2MB of Flash
HP AC adapter
1 pair of fairly new NiCad batteries
1 pair of NiMH Batteries
A copy of Software Carousel
the 1996 and 97 Palmtop paper archives floppies

I can send digital pictures to show all of the gear.

I'd like to get $400 for everything - but am willing to be honest and say
I'm not sure what it's all worth.  Please feel free to make a reasonable
offer.

I can accept (and prefer) pay-pal; and can also ship COD.

Please contact me at my personal mail address cledford@cw.net if interested.

Thanks,

-Calvin

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My trusted friend locked up on me today while I had one of my most used
databases open.  It would not respond to CTL-ALT-DEL so I used the
CTL-LSHIFT_ON and responded N.  Well the database is hosed and when I tried
to run Garlic on it Garlic basically said it wouldn't fix it.  Could this be
because I used a file password on my database?
Luckily I've got a week old backup and it will only take a couple hours to
get that back up to date.
Any suggestions?
bob

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Hi Everyone,
     I came across an interesting program on SUPER the other day. Its called
Dosline and it lets you write DOS commands from a prompt while still in
Filer. Aside from the "attrib" command, which is not in filer, I can't think
of any uses for this. Still, it seems like a fascinating concept. Has anyone
on the list used this program very much?

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>Hi Everyone,
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I came across an interesting program on SUPER the other day. Its called Dosline and it lets you write DOS commands from a prompt while still in Filer. Aside from the "attrib" command, which is not in filer, I can't think of any uses for this. Still, it seems like a fascinating concept. Has anyone on the list used this program very much?</FONT></HTML>

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Date:         Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:39:00 +0000
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Sorry for repeating so much but I can't figure out where to cut and have
it make sense!

> > Actually, that sounds like it might be okay since when I use Post/www on
> > the desktop, I can rarely get a consistent screen (window) size -
> > sometimes it is full screen dos session and sometimes it is a WINDOW.
>
> I know this behavior of WinXX and finally found out how it
> works. A DOS window is always started in CGA text mode. You may
> switch to any other text mode without loosing the window.
>
> But the first switch to a graphics mode results in a full
> screen DOS box, from which you can Alt-Enter back to a DOS
> window. You may now switch to any other graphics mode in this
> window. And you may switch back to a text mode.
>
> text    -> text       within window
> text    -> graphic    always full screen
> graphic -> text       within window
> graphic -> graphic    within window

> Because PAL applications always use graphics mode, there will
> be at least one automatic switch to full screen, unless the
> window was already in a graphics mode.

Does this possibly mean that I if just opened a dos box and kept it open
in GRAPIC mode (after the first switch) that I could run any PAL run
application (such as post and www and back into post) that it would stay
windowed?  Exit back to a dos prompt and keep that window open but in
the background and then ran post/www again later in that same box it
would always be "within window?"  I probably could do something like
that.  Rather I have a Post icon on the desktop, run it, use it and then
close it entirely.  Later I use the icon again?

> I tried to feed to the key buffer the Alt-Enter keycode, to
> switch automatically back to a window, but WinXX eats this
> keysequence only from the keyboard, not the buffer :-(

If you find a solution I really would appreciate it for Post/accis and
other stuff.  Thanks.

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I use it a lot to fire DOS commands during macro executions. For example, to
automatically switch to Software Carousel session 3, I use the macro
sequence

   {cc:Mail}switchc 3{Enter}

(I installed Dosline in Alt-123)


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Sent: Segunda-feira, 19 de Novembro de 2001 23:31
Subject: Uses for dosline
...Dosline and it lets you write DOS commands from a prompt while still in
Filer. Aside from the "attrib" command, which is not in filer, I can't think
of any uses for this. Still, it seems like a fascinating concept. Has anyone
on the list used this program very much?

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<fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> Does this possibly mean that I if just opened a dos box and kept it =
open
> in GRAPIC mode (after the first switch) that I could run any PAL run
> application (such as post and www and back into post) that it would =
stay
> windowed?  Exit back to a dos prompt and keep that window open but in
> the background and then ran post/www again later in that same box it
> would always be "within window?"

Yes exactly. You open a DOS box, run a utility to switch to VGA
graphics, Alt-Enter back to a DOS window, and now you may run
any PAL application with the new PALRUN always within the
window. I just tried it. You may also minimize the window to
the taskbar and open it again later. But you may not close the
window entirely.

One drawback is, that the screen is no longer cleared when
shelling to DOS. WWW/LX for example dials on top of the last
POST screen. But this is only cosmetic. Don't know if I can
fix it.

Stefan

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On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:06:24 -0500, Ledford, Calvin wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I've got a HP200lx (was 1MB model) that has been upgraded to=
 5MB
>internal Storage for sale - it comes with the following=
 accessories:
>=A0original manual Black EB Case Connectivity Kit w/ cable, all
>adapters, disks, manual EXP 14.4 Thinfax modem with 2MB of Flash=
 HP
>AC adapter 1 pair of fairly new NiCad batteries 1 pair of NiMH
>Batteries A copy of Software Carousel the 1996 and 97 Palmtop=
 paper
>archives floppies
>
>I can send digital pictures to show all of the gear.
>
>I'd like to get $400 for everything - but am willing to be=
 honest
>and say I'm not sure what it's all worth. =A0Please feel free to=
 make
>a reasonable offer.
for a price check look at
<=
 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D129449823=
3 >



>
>I can accept (and prefer) pay-pal; and can also ship COD.
>
>Please contact me at my personal mail address cledford@cw.net=
 if
>interested.
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Calvin
>
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Reply-To:     Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Bob Penick wrote:
>   Could this be
> because I used a file password on my database?

The built in pw protection is not considered very secure.
I don't use it, I keep my sensitive data on a SECDEV encrypted
logical drive. Much stronger encryption and no pw protected DBs
to complicate recovery.

SECDEV14.ZIP on SUPER.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:10:44 -0500
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Hi Steve,

Steve Carder wrote:
> Gee, can I get my Quick/LX registration fee from 8 or so years ago =
refunded?  Just
> kidding.

You bought it from Shier Systems & Software then, you need to
talk to them <G>...

> > - Andreas just sent to me MindMap/LX 2.0 which has a few
> > things added, and I will try to upload it this weekend.
>
> Who can ask for more then updates and improvements to freeware? <g>  =
Thanks for
> both of your hard work and support of my palmtop habit.

You'll be surprised what people feel free tto ask for. It
boggles the mind. I think most of the accolades and thanks
should go to Andreas and the relentless, demanding and
exquisite Beta Team!  <G> I contribute just a little bit.

  Avi M.

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Subject:      Re: databases
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Hi: I use DBL.COM for this. The setup in the icon in appMgr
looks like this:

Name:  databasex
Path:  a:\dbl.com a:\bases\avidb.gdb
i also created a cute icon for the databases. I posted some
time ago instructions on how to insert ANY icon located
ANYWHERE on the palmtop to the entry in AppMgr. Let me know if
you want it.

Finally. here is a little known trick: If you you have a
special icon for the database, move the icon into the same
directory where the database is. If the database and icon have
the same name (aside from the ?db and icn) then the icon will
show up in the datacard when you open the database and display
the databcard.

I believe DBL is on SUPER.

Hope this helps you a little.

  Avi M.


Tralornik wrote:
> Does anyone know how to create an Icon on Sys Mgr that opens the =
database
> ALWAYS to a certain database?

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From:         Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Re: databases
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Avi
How come when I download icons from SUPER many of them aren't recognised by
SysMgr even though the path name to the program is correct and I have put
the icon in the same directory?
Cheers
Tony.

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Subject: Re: databases


Hi: I use DBL.COM for this. The setup in the icon in appMgr
looks like this:

Name:  databasex
Path:  a:\dbl.com a:\bases\avidb.gdb
i also created a cute icon for the databases. I posted some
time ago instructions on how to insert ANY icon located
ANYWHERE on the palmtop to the entry in AppMgr. Let me know if
you want it.

Finally. here is a little known trick: If you you have a
special icon for the database, move the icon into the same
directory where the database is. If the database and icon have
the same name (aside from the ?db and icn) then the icon will
show up in the datacard when you open the database and display
the databcard.

I believe DBL is on SUPER.

Hope this helps you a little.

  Avi M.


Tralornik wrote:
> Does anyone know how to create an Icon on Sys Mgr that opens the database
> ALWAYS to a certain database?

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Tony,

I don't support just any ol' palmtop stuff, but if you
download a .ICN file - all of them 200 bytes long, then they
should be icons for 200LX.

> Avi
> How come when I download icons from SUPER many of them aren't recognised=
 by
> SysMgr

What do you mean not recognizable by SysMgr? SysMgr has no use
for icons, and does not deal with them. AppMger does in the
menu of apps and icons.

secondly, what do you mean does not recognize the icon? When?
Where? Doing what?

I just took an icon at random from my directory, copied and
renamed it ffdb.icn and put it with ffdb.exe. Edit of the
AppMgr entry for FFDB, tab to the icon window, and scroll it
down, and there was the icon I picked. Works everytime. I have
not seen it fail, unless the icon was defective, or not an
icon in the Palmtop environment, etc.

>  even though the path name to the program is correct and I have put
> the icon in the same directory?

The name of the icon and the name of the program MUST BE 100%
the same, except the extension. Could it be the names are not
exactly the same? Is it an .ICO or .ICN file? Size?

I also wrote about how to introduce an icon that has a TOTALLY
different name and sits in a TOTALLY different directory into
the entry of the AppMgr. You may want to go back a few days in
the archives. The same technique lets you intriduce the icon
even if it is the same name and in the same directory.

If the file is 200 bytes, and named .ICN you may want to try
opening it with ICN100LX  which is tucked away in D:\BIN. You
can copy it to the directory where the icon is and try it!
If it does not open the icon is probably broken.

Hope this helps.

  Avi M.

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Hi Alex,

First, the programs were written to run on the Palmtop.
Desktop environments are so varied, and with so many
variables, there is chance for us to really debug problems on
these platforms.

> Trying to use WWW on my laptop but computer is hanging(needing
> power off & reboot to regain control).
>
> The trouble occurs when I attempt to go Online(F5). Not sure
> if I have the correct Port for my internal modem?(assume COM 3
>=3D PORT 3?).

You can find out by checking in the Control Panel under modem,
assuming you use some Windows (non-Nt).

If indeed it is COM3 then you have to manually edit WWW.CFG
and change the Port=3D in the section which represents the ISP
you are trying to connect with and add the 3, so it'll be

Port=3D3

> First time user visa vi Laptop & Palmtop software so I need
> some very basic guidance or point in the direction to where
> it has already been spelt out before.

I am not sure I know what the reference to visa is.

The simple guidance: Believe it or not it runs nearly the same
way, just faster. You need to run either Palrun, or CG.COM or
PalmPC before you start WWW.EXE.

The references to files and all that from the CFG files better
be correct for the laptop.

Post here what you find out and progress.

  Avi M.
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Trying to use WWW on my laptop but =
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> hanging(needing power off &amp; reboot to regain control).</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The trouble occurs when I attempt to =
go Online(F5).
> Not sure if I have the correct Port for my internal modem?(assume COM 3 =
=3D PORT
> 3?).</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First time user visa vi Laptop &amp; =
Palmtop
> software so I need some very basic guidance or point in the direction =
to where
> it has already been spelt out before.</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Larry,

Just got the batteries ordered a few days ago from
ZBATTERY.COM (1800 624 8681, fax 1616 983 0029.

I ordered 8 2-packs L91BP2 (stands for "blister pack 2). Each
pack was $4.50 (there is another place selling them for $2.00
for each, vs. this place at $2.25. Total order $36.00 and UPS
shiping $3.60. They word just fine. Expiration date 2009!

No problems dealing with these folks.

Some batteries measured at 1.67V


  Avi M. D&A


> Bob
>
> > Office Depot here in Richmond, VA has a 4 pack for $8.99. |-)
>
> Thanks for the good info.  I just checked at the Office Depot here in =
Amarillo and got the same price!
>
> Larry
>
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Hi Gottfried:

Long time! <G> Good to see your "face" here.

I agree about the AlT-M issue. It may be hard to fix because
desktop keyboards do not all scan the same way.

  Avi M.



> Hi Stefan,
>
> >>Any more known bugs or suggestions I should look after?<<
>
> What about emulating the <Menu> key with <alt><m>? Not all programs
> work with / to reach palmtop menus... That was implemented before, but
> never worked stable, if I remember right.
>
> Anyway, I'm looking forward to Palrun 1.5 (if I count right <G>)
>
>    Bye for now  Gottfried
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For those of you wondering about the cost/benefit of using
Lithium batteries in the LX, here is an excerpt from a recent
test done by backpacker.com, see:
http://www.backpacker.com/gear/article/0,1023,2645_P,00.html
*****
From: BACKPACKER Rocky Mountain Editor, October 1, 2001
"I recently tested Energizer's upgraded E2 photo AAs. I ran four
pairs through a variety of  backcountry implements, testing
their performance against standard alkaline batteries as well as
older lithium cells."

"During standardized flashlight burn-time tests (using a
tungsten-filament Phillips KPR104 bulb rated at 2.2 volts, 0.47
amps), alkaline batteries ran for 4 hours, 10 minutes. Older
Energizer lithiums ran for 5 hours, 30 minutes. The new E2 photo
lithiums powered on for 7 hours, 25 minutes"

"The same flashlight with the E2 photos burned brightly in
subfreezing weather for just over 7 hours, but survived barely
an hour with the alkaline competitors."
*****
Cheapest Price:
Energizer Lithium AA are available for $2 ea at
http://www.batterystation.com/lithium.htm
Even adding their $6 shipping you're at $38 for 16
batteries vs $39.60 for that same quantity at ZBattery.com (See
Avi's post). I mention this because Zbattery is out of stock at
the moment, so if you need them batterystation.com has them.
BTW, I have no vested interest or experience with either of
these merchants

So, here's how the cost/benefit (run time) stacks up, using the
flashlight run-times in the review and my own experience using
the absolutely cheapest alkalines I've found, Wallgreens:

AA Alkalines, Wallgreens* .18   150 minutes =3D 7 cents per hour
AA Alkalines, cheap      =09.24   250 minutes  =3D 6 cents per hour
AA Lithium (red/gold)=09=09 2.25   330 minutes =3D 41 cents per hour
AA Lithium (E2)=09=09=09=09 2.25   430 minutes =3D 31 cents per hour

* The cheapest AA's I've ever found were at Wallgreens, they
occasionally have a hopper full of various blister-pack
batteries for $1.99. These are usually within 6-12 months of the
expiration date. The AA's come 12 for $1.99 plus tax,
total $2.14 or $0.18 ea. They ran for about 2 1/2 hours in a
Maglight flashlight, NOT the same flashlight as the  reviewer's
test subject flashlight, but maybe close enough for the purposes=

of this comparison ;)

FORGET THE FRIGGIN' FLASHLIGHT - WHAT ABOUT THE LX?
I've been watching the posts re Lithium run-times in the LX
which seem to garner between 35 hours and 58 hours. Say 46 hours
average. Forgetting for a moment the above flashlight run-time
comparison (thus avoiding the apples-to-oranges conflict),
running the LX costs about 5 cents per hour using the "old"
red/gold Energizer lithiums.

IF the 30% increase in run-time between the "old" red/gold
Lithiums and the "new" E2 blue/silver Lithiums holds true, that
translates to a run-time cost of 3.5 cents per hour in the LX.
Obviously, The extra cost of Lithiums over regular alkalines is
the cost of convenience in not having to change the batteries
out so often, not tossing so many batteries into the landfill
and not encountering power drop-off problems inherent with
alkalines.

Since one of the major advantages to Lithiums is their ability
to sustain output through their discharge life and not drop off
like alkalines, could a "remaining battery life" utility be
written that simply shows the hours of battery life remaining in=

a pair of Lithiums in the LX? Might be handy.

Bob Christopher     Littleton, Colorado USA     bob@palmtop.com

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 Sorry, I could be wrong. But I think that the one which you need is to
 install a proxy program in your desktop. (Or Internet Connection Sharing
 from Win98SE itself)
 It allows you to do Intenet on every computer connected to your home LAN
 through your desktop dial-up Internet connection. If you use xDSL or cable
 it may be more difficult.

 I expect that this is you useful.

 Juan Belmonte


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 1:13 AM
> Subject: Re: ANN: MODEM V2.0
>
>
> > On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:24:11 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Martin
> >
> > Hellu there..
> >
> > > On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:45:04 -0500, Martin Bergvill
<hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I tried to set this up a long time ago, but could not do it.
> > > >
> > > > I run Win98SE on the laptop and the latest WWW/LX on the Hplx.
> > > >
> > > > Problem: How to get WWW/LX to use the Pcmcia networkcard which is in
> > > > the other pcmcia slot on the laptop.
> > >
> > > What was the problem?
> >
> > Well first what I do now:
> >
> > Main desktop connected to internet and also connected to my home hub.
> >
> > Hplx connected to hub running WWW/LX. This is my batchfile:
> >
> > lxcic
> > e:
> > lxen2216 0x66
> > cd \
> > cd w
> > Www.exe isp_ether
> >
> > I then can have the Hplx download mail/news while I surf the web on the
> > desktop.
> >
> > What I want to do is to run WWW/LX on one of my machines that are
> > connected to my hub. I want to run it on a faster machine than my Hplx.
> >
> > Either run it directly on the memorycard which I then insert in my
> > Hplx. Or run WWW/LX on one of the machines and transfer the files after
> > the online run to the card.
> >
> > That way I can surf on my main machine and still download mail and news
> > with WWW/LX and much faster.
> >
> > I can run WWW/LX on my main desktop machine and have it dial in and
> > connect, but then only WWW/LX "sees" the connection and I can not surf
> > while it does this.
> >
> > How can I do what I want to do? Somebody mention a package which made
> > it possible for WWW/LX to use the "normal" connection that I have.
> >
> > Please advice. I have the necessary hardware but need some software to
> > make this happend.
> >
> > > Couldn't you access one of the cards anymore when you inserted the
> > > second card?
> > >
> > > But could you access each card if the other card was NOT inserted?
> >
> > I think it will be to complicated to do it this way. I need a
> > softwarepackage that runs on the laptop in Win 98 that lets WWW/LX on
> > the inserted memorycard access the internet through the network.
> >
> > > Then you might have an interrupt problem. The PCMCIA controller uses
> > > one interrupt line and every inserted card needs another. So with two
> > > cards in the slots, you need 3 IRQs at once. Maybe this was the
> > > problem?
> >
> > I do not think I can get it to work this way. I will try some more
> > setting up WWW/LX on the laptop and then use Lxcic, Lxen2216 and
> > dhcp.exe.
> >
> > But there must be some other clever way of doing this. All I want to do
> > is to run WWW/LX on the connection that are already there through the
> > network.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > --
> > Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway

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Date:         Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:54:51 -0700
Reply-To:     Bob Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM>
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Just got a price quote on the red/gold Energizer Lithium
batteries from wholesaleadvantage.com, a firm I've done a lot of=

business with in the past and been very satisfied with. I had
asked them to match or beat the $2 per battery price posted at
http://www.batterystation.com/lithium.htm. Here is the reply:
****
Hi Bob,
For 16 L91BP2  batteries shipped in the continental USA we
would charge $1.89/battery plus $5.50 shipping...Grand total
$35.74...Please mention this special quote if ordering,
otherwise you'll get charged the  regular price..
These batteries are not the E2 package, they are the previous
style  package but are fresh dated 2009 and are "the exact same
battery" as the E2...
Regards,
Allan
Wholesale Advantage bette@wholesaleadvantage.com 20 Nov2001
****
I have no affiliation with any of these companies, just a
satisfied customer of wholesaleadvantage.com. Again, be sure to
mention this pricing per Allan when ordering.

Bob Christopher     Littleton, Colorado USA     bob@palmtop.com

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Date:         Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:21:12 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

I have created a little utility which creates PIM/PE compatible time
stamps. If someone wants to have a copy, please let me know.

I use it for the report of my nightly backup: The backup creates output
which I redirect into a PIM file and this utility creates the time
stamp for each backup.

It is simply called

TIMESTMP

and it creates e.g.

+. 20-11-2001

or call it
TIMESTMP /t

and it creates a timestamp with time:

+. 20-11-2001 11:53


It is made for German format of time and date. You can have the source
code (C) and adjust it to your needs.

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:49:13 -0600
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Hi James & Questor,
      I've been using the HP Connectivity pack to backup/synch my
200LX for years to my Win98 desktop.  I do indeed reboot to DOS, and
have a couple of simple BAT files there which start the llra code.  That
code maps the 200LX disks to desktop disks - so the HP's A: disk appears
as the D: disk to the desktop for example.  Then I do a bunch of copies
in the BAT file.  Only mildly tricky part is keeping a mirror of the
200's directory structure on the desktop.  And one can copy back, of
course; a sufficiently adept DOS person could probably develop a BAT
file that will check dates and copy the latest version over the older
version.  Custom DB's, no problem, multiple duplicates, not.  There are
a couple of other features of the connectivity pack which I don't use,
but I should mention that the emulator of the 200 code which runs on
the desktop doesn't seem to include Lotus 1-2-3; I think it might not
have Memo either.  However, those files can be handled (more or less)
with almost any office suite; if you have the Lotus SmartSuite you can
run most any 1-2-3 macro that doesn't make a graph.

                                              Leo
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Date:         Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:51:34 -0500
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Hello Stephan.   This is most likely impossible, I'll ask anyway:  Any
chance of supporting CPU's lower than 186?   It would be really helpful,
though I have an idea of the difficulties involved.

TIA

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Date:         Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:47:16 -0500
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> How come when I download icons from SUPER many of them aren't recognised
by
> SysMgr even though the path name to the program is correct and I have put
> the icon in the same directory?
>
For a new icon to be recognized by the Applications Manager, you must:
1) place the icon in the same directory as the program you wish to
associate it with
2) give the icon the same 8-character name (not 3-character extension) as
the program you wish to associate it with (e.g. EXAMPLE.ICN to go with
EXAMPLE.EXE)
3) in the Applications Manager, press MENU and choose Applications, Edit,
Icon, then scroll up/down through the images to pick your new one
4) press F10 for "Ok".

If you have reason to doubt that it is a valid 44 x 32 x B&W .ICN, try
opening it with the icon editor at D:\BIN\icn200lx.exe (or download
icn100lx.exe from SUPER). Invalid icons just won't open.

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> CTL-LSHIFT_ON and responded N.  Well the database is hosed and when I
tried
> to run Garlic on it Garlic basically said it wouldn't fix it.  Could this
be
> because I used a file password on my database?
> Luckily I've got a week old backup and it will only take a couple hours
to
> get that back up to date.
> Any suggestions?
>
Start the database app, create a new database (e.g. RESCUE.GDB), Merge the
corrupt database into your new one, then save it. Then re-open RESCUE.GDB.
If you are lucky, it contains your missing information, restored!

If not, well, that's what back-ups are for...

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Hi

Do anyone has the adress to where it was possible to convert
pdf - files?



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Date:         Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:19:14 -0600
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> Do anyone has the adress to where it was possible to convert
> pdf - files?

Try this:

  pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu

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On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Leo Bellantoni wrote:

>   ... I think it CPACK might not have Memo either.

It does.

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Hi!

My Hp200 crashed BIGtime lastnight and I lost a lot of stuff.
Unfortunately I haven't made a backup for a few months, because the
serial connection failed to work for some strange reason. This is very
frustrating...:)(
I have got a few backups in transfile compressed format. I want to use a
few old files on the pc running connectivity software. Any chance I can
decompress the transfile files without having to use the 200LX?

Thanks very much!

Jasper
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Date:         Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:45:29 -0500
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From:         Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay
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Well, just got mine and it seems to work well. No drivers needed. I
ran chkdsk and that defrag util that comes with SC with no hiccups.
now I can fill it with a lot more crap I never use. Anybody want to
buy a slightly used 150MB type-2 sandisk card really cheeeep? ;>




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Tralornik
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 1:32 AM
To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
Subject: Re: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay


Is there a limit on the size of cards supported by a 100LX ?

Also would the card described below require a driver?

----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Hansen
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 1:39 PM
Subject: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay


Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a customer) is selling new San Disk
220 Flash Disk cards for $50/ea - they have several with buy-it-now
prices at $50. Do a search on the seller - "ssinc1500".

I bought several items from them, and have always been happy...

Here is a link to the one I bought, click on "View other auctions for
this seller" to see others...
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1294724938

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These cost $165 (#145 Irish) here in Ireland, and the cheapest I've seen in the UK
adverts is #120 sterling - roughly the same.

When I read this correspondence, I tried Costco. They took all details an then
said they could not ship to this region. I then tried Amazon.com who had it for
$69.99. They made a distinction between billing area and shipping area, so I
bought and had it shipped to my cousin in NY state. He forwarded it to me. It
worked out at #66 Irish.

Richard.

Mike Cheponis wrote:

> Fry's is selling 128 MB CF for $39.95
>
> -Mike
>
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Ron Burnett wrote:
>
> > From: Ron Burnett <ronburnett@COMPUSERVE.COM>
> > Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD
> >
> > Office Depot has a special on the SanDisk 128MB CF for $84.99.  Flyer states
> > that prices are good through 11/24/01.
>
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This might be a workaround for you because your serial connection isn't
working:

Over the last few months I have been backing up via my compact flash card
and just using it like a floppy.  My laptop has a pc card slot and Win2k
seems to recognise the sandisk card without having to install drivers.  Then
I just copy the files into a backup directory.

HTH
Tony.

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Subject: compressed transfile files


Hi!

My Hp200 crashed BIGtime lastnight and I lost a lot of stuff.
Unfortunately I haven't made a backup for a few months, because the
serial connection failed to work for some strange reason. This is very
frustrating...:)(
I have got a few backups in transfile compressed format. I want to use a
few old files on the pc running connectivity software. Any chance I can
decompress the transfile files without having to use the 200LX?

Thanks very much!

Jasper
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Where can I download a copy of LXREF? The link in the faq and in a post from
a year ago (http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5463/files.html)
is no longer valid.

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On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:01:18 -0500, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> Right now, I am back to experimenting with rechargeables again.
>  So far, I am still getting lousy run times between charges.  I
> always keep a pair of the Lithium batteries handy as spares,
> though.

What exactly is "lousy"? I have a 8mb DS machine now, but will get a 32mb
DS machine in january. I use NIMH now, and I get about 8 hours max with
mine.

This is lousy, but if you get even worse I need to consider to go
alkalaine too when I get my 32mb DS machine.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:28:35 -0500
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I posted this originally October 9, 2001. This is based on an
old message and library item in Compuserve which I believe I
posted in HPHAND in 1995 or 1996?

This deals with installing icons in AppMgr. The myth is they
must be named the same as the application and be in the same
directory. Not exactly. Read below.

(However, to display the icon in the datacard of a database,
it MUST be in the same directory and have the same name. I
have not found, nor looked for a way around this.)

Hope this is useful for someone.

  Avi M.

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Here is the secret: When you install the icon, its image is
placed in APPMGR.DAT (see c:\_dat) so you can take the icon -
usually said to have to be in the same directory as the app -
an move it somewhere else, or even delete it.

Having said that, I published many years ago the following
procedure, which let's you install an icon, no matter where it
is located:

1. Press the blue &... - that puts you in the applications
manager program.

2. Highlight the program you want to give an icon or change its
icon. If you are entering the program for the first time, see
below...

3. press Edit F3

4. Tab to Path field, where there is info on the program that
is activated by this icon.

5. Press Fn =3D (Copy) the info.

6. Type on top of the program info the icon location:
A:\misc\info\iconlist\icon1.icn or whatever the FULL PATH name
is.  Don't worry that this destroys the program information,
because in step5 you copied that information to the SysMgr
clipboard!

7. Tab to the icon area and scroll (up / down arrows) until
you see your selected icon. If you do not see it, then you did
not type the full path name of the icon correctly, or the icon
is invalid. If invalid path, tab to PATH field and retpe the
proper path name. If invalid icon, tab to PATH, press PAST (Fn
.) and go find a valid icon. You are finished for now.

8. If you see the icon, it means that it is now included
inside the APPMGR.DAT file!

9. Tab to the PATH field (which still has the icon path name)

10. Press PASTE (Fn .) to paste back in the program
information.

11. Press OK, F10.

12. The end.

Now you have an icon you like, which was not only in the same
directory as the icon, but did not even have to have the same
name as the application.

Try it! This has worked for many years on my 100LXs, 200LXs
and even I am told on OmniGo 700LX.

Hope this helps.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:54:23 -0800
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:01:18 -0500, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

>> Right now, I am back to experimenting with rechargeables again.
>>  So far, I am still getting lousy run times between charges.  I
>> always keep a pair of the Lithium batteries handy as spares,
>> though.

> What exactly is "lousy"? I have a 8mb DS machine now, but will get a 32mb
> DS machine in january. I use NIMH now, and I get about 8 hours max with
> mine.

Just out of curousity, what brand, how old and how are you charging your
batteries? I get a good 16 to 18 hours, with plenty of juice left, out of my DS
32 Mb with 1600 mAh Sanyo NiMH that are about a year- year and a half old,
charge them in the LX once a week and they are good to go for another week.
Panasonics 1500 mAh are just as good and seem to withstand heavier drains a
little better.
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Date:         Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:26:43 -0500
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> could you transfer files ?

I could not get the Jornada's IR port associated with an XT-CE DOS Com =
port.  I
will try some more work later.

 Steve Carder <steve@carderfamily.net>
 PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:57:01 -0800
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FYI - MM/LX version 2.0 is now on the download sites of D&A Software. When
you d/l MM.ZIP you'll get Version 2.0.

This version has no Registration requirements. That code was removed.

Enjoy.

   Avi Meshar
   D&A Software

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Date:         Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:54:25 +0200
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Hi Robert,

On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:53:05 -0700, "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman@JDEDWARDS.COM> wrote:

> Where can I download a copy of LXREF? The link in the faq and in a post from

What is LXREF?

GTX
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Date:         Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:03:02 +0200
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Hi Avi,

On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:57:01 -0800, info@DASOFT.COM wrote:

> FYI - MM/LX version 2.0 is now on the download sites of D&A Software. When
> you d/l MM.ZIP you'll get Version 2.0.

Fine. I just downloaded the new version.
But so far, I could not find any improvement, which you spoke about
recently. Is somewhere a "what's new" collection? I would be interested
mainly in which bugs are fixed.

GTX
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Steve Carder wrote:
>
> > could you transfer files ?
>
> I could not get the Jornada's IR port associated with an XT-CE DOS Com port.  I
> will try some more work later.

I have tried with the USB serial cable which came with the J720 but
forgott that I don't have CPACK running in the WinNT DOS window.

Ired does not work on the WinNT either. Swapping PCMCIA cards is much
more obvious anyway.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Hi Leo,

>       I've been using the HP Connectivity pack to backup/synch my
> 200LX for years to my Win98 desktop.  I do indeed reboot to DOS, and

you mean you shut down Win98 and restart it in MSDOS mode, or
really boot say DOS from a diskette?

The first case still has Win98 under the covers, and I wonder
how you set up things to let it run LLRA. I did not think
this worked, with Win choking on LLRA code. But I never tried
running it like that, so maybe this is the trick! Worth
trying.

And the other question: When we talked on the phone, I believe
I understood your AUTOEXEC.BAT has the LLRA code REMmed out.
Is it not required to "talk" with the desktop complement of
these programs? I suppose it is possible to run that on the
Palmtop in a batch file right before the connection is made,
though.


> the desktop doesn't seem to include Lotus 1-2-3; I think it might not
> have Memo either.  However, those files can be handled (more or less)

Has Memo but not 123. I bet the Lotus crew who developed the
System Manager applications for the 200LX expected that
naturally everyone will have Lotus 12-3 on their desktops <g>...

> with almost any office suite; if you have the Lotus SmartSuite you can
> run most any 1-2-3 macro that doesn't make a graph.

That is correct. We exchanged our experiences and indeed WK1
sheets are very compatible with Lotus 97, except all the
graphics stuff. I aso move worksheets between the two
platforms with almost no troubles. The main source of
occasional problems is that the Palmtop is limited in memory
and cannot take huge sheets.
>
>                                               Leo
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Date:         Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:17:19 +0000
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Domingo wrote:

> Hello Stephan.   This is most likely impossible, I'll ask anyway:  Any
> chance of supporting CPU's lower than 186?   It would be really helpful,
> though I have an idea of the difficulties involved.

You took the question out of my mouth (german proverb).
I just wanted to ask, if anybody is using Palrun on a 8086,
because I intend to compile it for 80186 opcodes.

This is a speed relevant decision, because I can use PUSHA and
POPA opcodes, saving 10 instructions for *EVERY* pixel written
to the screen.

If most PAL applications use 80186 opcodes, Palrun would be
silly to not use them too.

But if your question was, if Palrun could let a 80186 PAL
application run on a 8086, then the answer is: Impossible

Palrun does not emulate a processor, it only emulates the
built in graphics functions of the palmtop.

So the main question remains:

     Does anybody want to use Palrun on a 8086 processor?

If only very few have this requirement, I'd rather like to do
custom compilation for them instead of letting the rest not
take benefit from the speed improvement.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:11:18 +0100
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Hi!

As I've told you yesterday, my hp200 crashed bigtime.
Before that happened, I couldn't connect my pc and hp200 anymore.
I tested it on 2 pc's with no luck. It has worked... I guess it can be
either the cable (which looks quite sturdy) or the serial port on my
200.
Is there a way to test the latter?

Thanks!
Jasper
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... I'm sorry about my posts, but I'm seeing a lot of work getting more
and more lost.
I located an old .gdb file on one of my backup cd's, but now I find the
connectivitypack database util can't read it!!! It's not protected by
password or anything.
Does anyone have a solution? If you want you can try it yourself:
http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural/track.gdb

Thanks very much!

Jasper
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FYI:

SanDisk ATA PC Cards Type II
----------------------------
end of life: 8-48-96-440-660-880-1000 MB
new product: 16-32-64-128-192-256-348-512-640-896-1024-1536-2048 MB


SanDisk ATA CF Cards Type I
---------------------------
end of life: 8-48-96-160 MB
new product: 16-32-64-128-192-256-348-512 MB


SanDisk MultiMedia Cards
------------------------
new product: 8-16-32-64 MB


SanDisk SD Cards
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new product: 8-16-32-64 MB

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Date:         Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:09:04 -0600
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Hi Avi,
        Good to hear from you!

> you mean you shut down Win98 and restart it in MSDOS mode, or
> really boot say DOS from a diskette?

No diskettes; I do the shut down proceedure with the "Re-start as MS-DOS"
option.  The connectivity pack asserts that this is required in its
documentation.   Being the finger poker that most of us on this list seem
to be, I tried it from the MS-DOS window opened directly from Win98 a few
times.  Itsa no good.  The only real trick was that I had to realize that
my desktop has its modem in COM1, and the serial port on the back is
COM2.  I don't have a copy of my BAT files on hand, but I can post them
(after Thanksgiving probably) if people want... I think the relevant
statements are something along the lines of "llra /2" and then "llra /off"
&/or "llra /u" at the end of the exercise.  "llra /?" I think is useful.

> And the other question: When we talked on the phone, I believe
> I understood your AUTOEXEC.BAT has the LLRA code REMmed out.
> Is it not required to "talk" with the desktop complement of
> these programs? I suppose it is possible to run that on the
> Palmtop in a batch file right before the connection is made,
> though.

Ah, yes.  Rather, I start the LapLink code from the system manager when I
connect up the ports; this is prior to the start of llra from the desktop.
So the palmtop is slave, the desktop is master.


                                        cheers
                                              Leo
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Date:         Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:09:23 -0800
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Ed,

I agree. So far I have bought 2 from Silicon Salvage. Been very pleased.
Theyb are on my way home from work so I do a buy it now and stop by to pick
it up (and test it) a couple of hours later. I dont know what they charge
for shipping, but I just sent one out to a friend for $3.90 Priority mail.
If anyone is interested, contact me off line. So far they have only charged
me $50 ea, No tax and No Shipping (i Pick up).

Joe

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Date:    Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:45:29 -0500
From:    Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay

Well, just got mine and it seems to work well. No drivers needed. I
ran chkdsk and that defrag util that comes with SC with no hiccups.
now I can fill it with a lot more crap I never use. Anybody want to
buy a slightly used 150MB type-2 sandisk card really cheeeep? ;>

<clip>

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Subject: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay


Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a customer) is selling new San Disk
220 Flash Disk cards for $50/ea - they have several with buy-it-now
prices at $50. Do a search on the seller - "ssinc1500".

I bought several items from them, and have always been happy...

Here is a link to the one I bought, click on "View other auctions for
this seller" to see others...
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1294724938

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Date:         Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:18:16 +0000
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Hi Avi,

>>I agree about the AlT-M issue. It may be hard to fix because
desktop keyboards do not all scan the same way.<<

AFAIK the scan code of the <menu> key is absolutely unique to the HP
palmtops. No other keyboard can generate that code. Having said that
the only possible solution would be to develop a "table translator
routine" which grabs the scan code of the <alt><m> keys and stuffs the
<menu> scan code instead into the palmtop program running on a "big" computer.

Well, I never was a programmer in practice and I'll never be.... <G>

   Bye for now  Gottfried

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Date:         Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:35:33 -0500
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Hi all,

   I have found a few things out about the pause that
occurs when first accessing drive A: upon powering on.
A couple of people mentioned this was an annoyance,
and Rudi went so far as to disable the recalculation
of the free space by DOS that seems to cause this.

   Dredging up some old DOS memories, I thought that
this should be easy to solve.  The Drive Parameter
Block (DPB) holds the media changed and free space
available information.  Write a TSR to save this
information on power down, and restore it on power
on.  That didn't work as the media changed information
is not now held in the DPB.

   The Developer's Guide says that "CardDRV" is what
does the media changed update when the system wakes up.
The DPB has an address of the driver for drive A: so
that gives an approximate starting point to look for
things.  It is apparently not in a register or "special"
memory location.

   The diskette I got with the Developer's Guide has
a program called FIXEDA.COM.  This fixes the problem
that someone brought up a while back of not writing
data to drive a: when powering off.  It patches
CardDRV to make DOS a little happier and allow writes
to occur on power on, rather than reporting media
changed and invalidating the file pointers.  It does
not affect the pause and the documentation says there
are three values for media changed; yes, no, and maybe.
FIXEDA changes media changed from yes to maybe.  I've
looked at FIXEDA.COM in DEBUG and ran it through a
disasembler.  That (as usual) does not tell me too
much about what's going on.  Are there any "old hands"
here that might have access to the source code of
FIXEDA.COM or CardDRV?

   The Developer's Guide also says that if the power
off was caused by the main batteries being too low,
the media changed status is left alone to allow writes
to A: to recover from inadvertent power offs caused by
the large current requirements of a flash card.  Implies
that there will be no annoying pauses if you turn your
machine off by removing the batteries.  I don't think
I'll test that one, but someone might know if the power
off interrupt could be faked to change a normal power
off to a main battery failure.  And if there are caveats
to this.

   By the by, there is a DPB for drive B:.  The Developer's
Guide says this is for a second partition on a flash card.
It then says it might have been used for a second slot if
such had ever been incorporated in a 200LX.  It looks like
the address of the driver for B: is different for B: than
A: in the DPB.  Anyone have a flash card with more than one
partition?  You could change the address of the B: driver
to that of the A: driver and see if anything happens.

   Any other ideas on tracking down a specific status byte
in memory?

Happy Thanksgiving
Steve

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Date:         Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:08:37 +0100
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My .02$....

There were 2 instances were I could not connect to my palmtop:
1)Win 95, after I installed a wireless mouse

2)after installing Win 98

The followiong tips from the list solved the problem:

1)To force Windows to release it's serial ports we include the
following additional lines under the heading "386Enh" in the
system.ini file in the windows directory:
ComBoostTime=5
Com1AutoAssign=2
Com2AutoAssign=2
Com3AutoAssign=2
Com4AutoAssign=2
Com1FIFO=1
Com2FIFO=1
Com3FIFO=1
Com4FIFO=1
This stops windows from mothering you with concern over having
two programs attempting to access the same port at the same
time.


2)
<I'm running CPACK200 under Windows 98. I have a strange problem
connecting to my HP200.
If I go into the filer app (under CPACK) and try to connect, it
reports "Cannot establish a remote connection". However, if I
first go to Communications -> Remote Settings and simply OK the
settings that I see (making no changes) then connect, the
connection is successful. It stays happy until I quit CPACK200.
-I run CPACK200 under Win98.  I have found that I get much more
reliable connections if I have it run in MS-DOS mode.  To do
this, right-click on the CPACK icon and select Properties.  The
select Program and Advanced and check the box for MSDOS mode.
Now click OK and try it out.

At least, it worked for me..


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I have a Sandisk 160Mb CF Type II card that works fine in ALL my 200lx's.
It was formatted using the DOS 5.0 in the 200lx as Format A: /u when I
first got it (after I picked up a CF Type II adaptor to PCMCIA Type
II)(BTW- Thanks Avi, I found one at Bel Air Camera). It was checked with
Norton and appears to be fine.

The problem is that my NEX II MP3 player does not see it!? I also have a
Simpletech 48Mb CF Type I and a Sandisk 160Mb CF Type 1 that both work
fine!

An Email response from  Frontier Labs (maker of the NEX II) asks "Do you
have a CF card reader which you can use to format the  CF card to FAT 16 on
your PC?"! I thought that DOS 5.0  formatted in FAT 16. Am I wrong? How can
I tell what FAT is used, 12, 16 or 32(32, fat chance)?

Thanks

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Date:         Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:28:16 +0100
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Hallo all,

is it possible to use POST/LX and similar programs on a different
handheld like Highscreen/Peacock Organizers? Win 3.0 works on it, but
I don't know, what processors works inside.


Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

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I have HP Omnigo 700/LX (almost identical with 200lx)  in constant use, =
but now some strange problem is being
occur. When I start the machine, it works fine about 15 seconds and then =
says that bckup
battery and main battery are very low and then shuts off. When I try to =
restart
the machine again, is just beeps, screen flicks and then it shuts down =
again.

It does this with brand new alkaline batteries and with loaded nimh too. =
With AC-adaptor
it gives same warnings but does'nt shut off. The setup says that main =
batteries and
backup battery are low.
I monitored the voltage with ABC/LX and it jumped constantly to 2,58 =
volts and then down
to 0-1 volts and again to over 2 volts.

All wires and connectors inside the machine seem connected and clean to =
me, so can the problem be
that the circuit what measures battery power is broken, and gives
false information about batteries causing system to soft off?
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> If most PAL applications use 80186 opcodes, Palrun would be
> silly to not use them too.

Perhaps it would be better to ask if ANY Pal application doesn't use 80186
opcodes.   If not, then that would settle the issue.

> So the main question remains:
> Does anybody want to use Palrun on a 8086 processor?
> If only very few have this requirement, I'd rather like to do
> custom compilation for them instead of letting the rest not
> take benefit from the speed improvement.

If the issue is not moot as above, may I suggest two compilations on the
distribution?   It should add only a few kbytes to the zip file.

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Domingo wrote:

> Perhaps it would be better to ask if ANY Pal application doesn't use =
80186
> opcodes.   If not, then that would settle the issue.

I think its more important to know the target machine for
Palrun, because a 80186 compiled Palrun will execute 8086 and
80186 PAL applications. There is no need of an extra 8086
compiled Palrun to execute 8086 PAL applications.

> If the issue is not moot as above, may I suggest two compilations on =
the
> distribution?   It should add only a few kbytes to the zip file.

But besides Palrun there will be a new MINIPAL only using 3KB
of memory at the cost of the custom fonts (MINIPAL only uses
the 8x8 BIOS font). Distributing 4 versions are likely to
confuse the user and will rise questions to be answered by Avi,
because the zip file will indeed go to the D&A page ;-)

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Peichl" <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>

> I think its more important to know the target machine for
> Palrun, because a 80186 compiled Palrun will execute 8086 and
> 80186 PAL applications. There is no need of an extra 8086
> compiled Palrun to execute 8086 PAL applications.

Perhaps I missunderstood you.   I thought you were considering NOT
supporting 8086 code for speed purposes.


> But besides Palrun there will be a new MINIPAL only using 3KB
> of memory at the cost of the custom fonts (MINIPAL only uses
> the 8x8 BIOS font). Distributing 4 versions are likely to
> confuse the user and will rise questions to be answered by Avi,
> because the zip file will indeed go to the D&A page ;-)

If MINIPAL will be able to trick programs into running on a true XT at the
cost of some of the appearance, that would be a reasonable compromise.    As
far as D&A, I thought they didn't support freeware (or at least did not feel
obligated to).   I understood one reason they are releasing some programs as
freeware was to cut down on support costs.    Either way, I recently heard
from Avi privately, so I think I know what you mean.  :-p

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Hi friends,

finally I was able to repair a screen with missing vertical lines.

It was _not_ (as I always thought) a loose contact between the display
electronics board and the screen glass (there is a conducting rubber
band between them, rather don't take it apart, I have done so several
times and once it was a real mess to reassemble it!).

But it was a bunch of bad soldering points at one IC on the
electronics board. This is a failure which no one can see, you can only
'see' it indirectly by connecting the screen to a HPLX mainboard and
try to press gently on each IC on the back uf the screen.

Pressing on the edge of the screen, as I recommend on
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair ,
sometimes also let the missing lines reappear, even in my case, and
thus this may not necessary mean that the problem is a bad contact
between electronics and glass.
But you also mechanically work (only a little bit, but it
may be enough) the board itself and thus you may establish missing
contacts between any IC and the circuit board.

So please, don't throw awy any screen which only misses some lines. It
can probably be fixed!

My theory is that a tight hinge also affects the circuit board, because
it is bent a little bit each time you open and close the screen.
If my theroy is right, we should see that most missing lines will be in
the right part of the screen, preferrably the 5 or 10 very right
pixel columns. Is this correct? Please, if you also have a screen with
missing lines, please let me know which lines are missing! It would be
very interesting.

Unfortunately, I will NOT repair your screens. I cannot do so, because
I don't have the tools for SMD soldering. For the one reair I did today
I had the opportunity to use the SMD tools in a laboratory in my
university. But this was an exception. You need a soldering iron which
blows hot air onto the contacts of the ICs.

Please note: There are two kinds of screens: The one kind has ICs which
are really soldered onto the board, with accessable contacts.
The other kind has ICs of which the contacts are NOT accessable. These
cannot be repaired that way. But I doubt that these screens will be
affected by the bending anyway.

GTX
daniel


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Date:         Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:27:16 +0200
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

by chance anyone who does something like that?

Everytime I try to edit a message in Post/LX or everytime I leave PE
when PE is the only app. running, DOSEMU crashes with a segmentation
fault. :-(

Maybe the new Palrun will avoid that?
With PalmPC the error occurs, too.

Does anyone know if modem access or even networking is possible under
DOSEMU?

And: Mindmap looks fairly nicely under palrun under DOSEMU under Linux.
;-)

But Everything which doesn't fit on the right side anymore continues on
the left side of the screen, this is annoying! Has anyone a solution
for that? (looks like the following: The item "Thisistoolong" is too
long.

olong          Thisisto
.              /
.             /
.     Main item
.            \
.             \
.             Thisfits


You know what I mean? Everything else seems to work. Except of course
editor access again. Pressing F3 to edit a note with PE results again
in the segmentation fault of DOSEMU.

I'm running version 1.0.1.0 of DOSEMU (xdos) under SuSE Linux 7.2
on an HP Omnibook 800CT.

Thanks
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:10:46 +0100
Reply-To:     Harry Wellner <hwellner@PLANET.NL>
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Hallo list,

Daniel Hertrich is out of stock.

Anyone not in use anymore of a HPLX data cable for a Siemens
M35 ? Please contact me directly mailto:hwellner@planet.nl

Harry WELLNER - The Netherlands

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Date:         Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:14:03 +0000
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Jasper de Jong wrote:
> I located an old .gdb file on one of my backup cd's, but now I find the
> connectivitypack database util can't read it!!! It's not protected by
> password or anything.

I'm really sorry to read about your troubles, unfortunately I
have no recovery suggestions.

However this can serve as a good example to everyone else...

Do frequent BACKUPS !!
  Do frequent BACKUPS !!
    Do frequent BACKUPS !!
      Do frequent BACKUPS !!
        Do frequent BACKUPS !!
          Do frequent BACKUPS !!
            Do frequent BACKUPS !!
              Do frequent BACKUPS !!
                Do frequent BACKUPS !!

...And make sure they can be read Ok in case you need them.
(My father was good about backing up his pc.  Unfortunately they
were unusable when it came time to need them.  :-(  )

Cheers... Russ

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Jasper de Jong wrote:
> I tested it on 2 pc's with no luck. It has worked... I guess it can be
> either the cable (which looks quite sturdy) or the serial port on my
> 200.
> Is there a way to test the latter?

Doesn't the CP come with loop back connectors to test the serial
port?  If not Norton Utilities (use to?) come with them.

Cheers... Russ

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After my crash this week, I've been double-checking everything  to make sure
that I have found and fixed all the gotcha's.
I've run Curtis Cameron's DBCHECK against all my ?db's and it reports that
my appt.adb had errors.

APPT.ADB:
File type: Appointment
.................
Error - data record 503 not found in recurring list
.....
1 db header, 0 card def
0 categories, 27 fields defined
0 view point defs, 1 view point tables
2 smart clips, 1 lookup tables
641 data records, 48 with notes
Found records:     725     Garbage records:   0
Expected records:  724     Deleted records:   0
Error: links in record(s) point to other non-existent records.
Error: Data record 0 was linked incorrectly.
APPT.ADB had errors.

I've tried extracting records earlier and later than various dates and I
still get the same error.
I've even  tried creating a new adb and then merging older subsets in.  When
I do this it hangs c_pack at 85% and I have to force the session closed.
The strange thing is that (I don't think) the appointment program seems to
run OK.

So, how do I delete record 503 or otherwise clean up my APPT.ADB and hang on
to most of my history?
Thanks friends,
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Date:         Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:03:36 -0500
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Russel,
I think you remember the old PC Tools.  I have a set that came when I bought
the "deluxe" upgrade.
bob
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> Jasper de Jong wrote:
> > I tested it on 2 pc's with no luck. It has worked... I guess it can be
> > either the cable (which looks quite sturdy) or the serial port on my
> > 200.
> > Is there a way to test the latter?
>
> Doesn't the CP come with loop back connectors to test the serial
> port?  If not Norton Utilities (use to?) come with them.
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
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>

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Avi,
>
> Just got the batteries ordered a few days ago from
> ZBATTERY.COM (1800 624 8681, fax 1616 983 0029.
>
> I ordered 8 2-packs L91BP2 (stands for "blister pack 2). Each
> pack was $4.50 (there is another place selling them for $2.00
> for each, vs. this place at $2.25. Total order $36.00 and UPS
> shiping $3.60. They word just fine. Expiration date 2009!
>

Pretty good deal!  A lot better than what I WAS paying - I won't do that =
again soon.

Larry

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> Ah, darn, what's that secret area in the HP called?  Supposedly holds
> whatever data unless all power is lost - retains it even during hard
> resets?

It is called the XBRAM.  It is a small section of write
protected memory.  It cannot hold up through a power failure
that erases all RAM, but it is not cleared by a Initialize RAM
boot function.

There is a specific protocol required to allocate space in the
XBRAM and to read and write it.  It is all documented in the HP
Developers Docs, but it is not very well done.  And there is a
bug in the ROM routines around this.

But I don't think the XBRAM is needed for the stuff be are
talking about here.  The TSR can store the free-space value in it's
own variable space.  There is no need for this free space
value to hold up through a reboot or a RAM initialization.  And
it is not a hardship for there to be a delay the first time the
card is referenced after a reboot as long as the TSR returns
the value instantly all times thereafter.

BTW, I just ordered a 128MB Sandisk CF card.  I is time for
more storage space.


Stan

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Date:         Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:03:05 -0500
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Bob Penick writes:
> After my crash this week, I've been double-checking everything  to make sure
> that I have found and fixed all the gotcha's.
> I've run Curtis Cameron's DBCHECK against all my ?db's and it reports that
> my appt.adb had errors.
>
> APPT.ADB:
> File type: Appointment
> ..................
> Error - data record 503 not found in recurring list

Run dbcheck with the /d switch, and direct the output to a file:

  dbcheck /d c:\_dat\appt.adb > c:\test-out.txt

Then search the file for the string "mber: 503"

This should identify which record is the culprit.  Deleting it may clear
up the problem.

Hope this helps.

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From: "Steve" <novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:05 PM

> A: in the DPB.  Anyone have a flash card with more
> than one partition?

THIS is interesting .. as i understand, the entire
pcmcia card, normal or compact, is looked upon
as one drive .. is it possible to use fdisk to partition
the pcmcia card .. that would be very useful to
me for reasons of my own .. (loooong reasons,
and i HAVE been pointed out, politely, by good
people here of my 'long' posts to be kept short)

:-))

..pk

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>From: "Daniel Hertrich" <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 8:57 PM

> Re : Post/LX under Palrun under DOSEMU under Linux

Wow ! an app under another ap under an OS
under another OS !

Amazing things still do happen !

:-)

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>From: "Steve" <novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:05 PM

> looked at FIXEDA.COM in DEBUG and ran it through a
> disasembler.  That (as usual) does not tell me too
> much about what's going on.

i need a disassembler for finding out how the small
program abcd.com works .. it was made by a friend
who has since left for USA .. he is now too busy ..
this program changes the layout from qwerty to
alphabetic .. a is on top left key .. b is on the 2nd top
left key .. z is on the bottom right key .. very very
useful for all my staff who refused to work on the
'difficult' qwerty keyboard .. i need to do some
changes to make the keyboard into fitaly kind of
keyboard .. can you help please ?  its a 2k program !

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>From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
>Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 3:44 AM

>             Do frequent BACKUPS !!
>               Do frequent BACKUPS !!
>                 Do frequent BACKUPS !!

a point which cannot be emphasized enough !

i always felt like that when i faced an unreadable
backup media .. when i needed it most !

and frequently the large number of floppies
created by MSBackup program .. ugh ! .. a
break in the link (one unreadable floppy of
the many) and the rest goes into never never
land !

> ...And make sure they can be read Ok in case you need them.
> (My father was good about backing up his pc.  Unfortunately they
> were unusable when it came time to need them.  :-(  )

once upon a time .. long long ago .. i was asked to write
an article in my computer club mag on backups .. what
i felt then .. i feel even now ..

backups are not available when you need them most !

the various media .. tapes .. 3.5" floppies .. CDs ..
develop strange securities and funguswalls .. even
the backupper doesn't get the goods back ..

my solution then .. and now too .. is use a similar
medium .. hdd to be backed up to another hdd ..
flashcard to another flashcard .. much much more
reliable .. and almost 100 % certain ..

i do another thing tho' .. i swap the hdd or flash
card .. keeps me informed that is works ..

3.5" floppies are awful .. 1.2MB floppies are
better (strange .. old tech better than new ! )
CDs are always a problem .. shouldn't be ..
but are ..

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On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:27:15 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi friends,

Hello there.

> finally I was able to repair a screen with missing vertical lines.

That sounds good. I have a backup 1mb machine that has some missing
lines. Good to know that it can be fixed.

> It was _not_ (as I always thought) a loose contact between the display
> electronics board and the screen glass (there is a conducting rubber
> band between them, rather don't take it apart, I have done so several
> times and once it was a real mess to reassemble it!).

I will not take it apart, because I know I will have problems with
getting it back together again.

> But it was a bunch of bad soldering points at one IC on the
> electronics board.

Is this on the back on the screen or on the motherboard?

> This is a failure which no one can see, you can only
> 'see' it indirectly by connecting the screen to a HPLX mainboard and
> try to press gently on each IC on the back uf the screen.

Okey on the back of the screen then..

So this is nothing I can do myself (or get my father to fix). You need
to dissamble the whole Hplx?

> Pressing on the edge of the screen, as I recommend on
> http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair ,
> sometimes also let the missing lines reappear, even in my case, and
> thus this may not necessary mean that the problem is a bad contact
> between electronics and glass.

My main machine has a problem where the screen goes black and pressing
on the left corner fixes it. But the backup Hplx I can press right of
the vertical lines and the lines dissapear.

> But you also mechanically work (only a little bit, but it
> may be enough) the board itself and thus you may establish missing
> contacts between any IC and the circuit board.
>
> So please, don't throw awy any screen which only misses some lines. It
> can probably be fixed!

Probably..

> My theory is that a tight hinge also affects the circuit board, because
> it is bent a little bit each time you open and close the screen.
> If my theroy is right, we should see that most missing lines will be in
> the right part of the screen, preferrably the 5 or 10 very right
> pixel columns. Is this correct?

My lines goes vertical from about where it says F6 and to F7 and all
the way verticle over the screen. If I press on the screen where it
says F7 then the lines goes away. I have to push on the lower part of
the screen to make them go away

> Please, if you also have a screen with
> missing lines, please let me know which lines are missing! It would be
> very interesting.

Are the IC's that you did the soldering on below where I push to make
the lines go away?

> Unfortunately, I will NOT repair your screens. I cannot do so, because
> I don't have the tools for SMD soldering. For the one reair I did today
> I had the opportunity to use the SMD tools in a laboratory in my
> university. But this was an exception. You need a soldering iron which
> blows hot air onto the contacts of the ICs.

I can have my dad fix this for me. He has all the SMD soldering thingys
at work so that is not a problem. But I need to know step by step how
to dismantle the Hplx. I am a bit scared to take it apart. How much do
I have to take it apart to get to these IC's?

> Please note: There are two kinds of screens: The one kind has ICs which
> are really soldered onto the board, with accessable contacts.
> The other kind has ICs of which the contacts are NOT accessable. These
> cannot be repaired that way. But I doubt that these screens will be
> affected by the bending anyway.

How to tell what kind of screen I have.

The serialnumber on the one I have problems with is:

SG44302736

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On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:07:30 +0100, Juan Belmonte Moreno wrote:

>  Sorry, I could be wrong. But I think that the one which you need is to
>  install a proxy program in your desktop. (Or Internet Connection Sharing
>  from Win98SE itself)

I run Win2000Pro on the main computer which is connected to the
internet. Then I have Win98SE on the other desktop computer and laptop
computer. I can surf on the laptop through the network connection. So
the IS is already working.

>  It allows you to do Intenet on every computer connected to your home LAN
>  through your desktop dial-up Internet connection. If you use xDSL or cable
>  it may be more difficult.
>
>  I expect that this is you useful.

I do that already, but how to get WWW/LX to "see" the connection which
is already there.

I will try some more when I get the time, but I am sure that somebody
wrote here at the list about some utility which he installed on the
Winxx machine which made WWW/LX "see" the connection which was already
there. I will have a look at the archives.

Regards

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On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:54:23 -0800, John Musielewicz wrote:

> Just out of curousity, what brand, how old and how are you charging your
> batteries?

They are maybe a year old and Varta Accuplus Ultra 1100 MAh 1.2V

> I get a good 16 to 18 hours, with plenty of juice left, out of my DS
> 32 Mb with 1600 mAh Sanyo NiMH that are about a year- year and a half old,

Okey maybe I should try some other batteries. I have some NIMH "photo"
batteries at work.

> charge them in the LX once a week and they are good to go for another week.

I also charge them in the Hplx using ABC/LX. I charge them over night
approx 16 hours. I get them up to approx 2.91V

> Panasonics 1500 mAh are just as good and seem to withstand heavier drains a
> little better.

I have to throw mine away and buy another brand then.

Regards

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I may be showing too many hours without time off, but I cannot seem to get
WinGDB to run. I get an error saying that the .dll file cannot be found. Is
it so simple as copying the .dll file to a specific Windows directory, or is
something sinister going on here?

Thanks all,
Dennis
(The Exhausted)

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Hi friends,

forgive the off-topic; for those who are interested:

I'm currently selling an Omnibook 800CT on ebay (shipping to Europe
only). Item 1300577431

GTX
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Gottfried Burckhardt wrote:

> AFAIK the scan code of the <menu> key is absolutely unique to the HP
> palmtops. No other keyboard can generate that code. Having said that
> the only possible solution would be to develop a "table translator
> routine" which grabs the scan code of the <alt><m> keys and stuffs the
> <menu> scan code instead into the palmtop program running on a "big" =
computer.

it has been done exactly that way in previous versions of
Palrun, but was then removed for stability reasons. The code is
still in the source (commented out), I see it every day.

I will not go into that for the version to come. Keyboard TSRs
can become very complicated already under DOS, not to talk about
all kinds of WinXXXX, where Palrun is inteded to be executed.

If I remember right, one problem was to handle Alt-M in cases,
where the application was already aware of Alt-M,

I have no problem with the menu key, All of Andreas' programs I
use, either support Alt-M or allow to create a macro to assign
any key to the menu key.

But I know, you don't give up easily. I'm looking forward to
the discussion when we have our next beer ;-)

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pksharma wrote:

>  .. is it possible to use fdisk to partition
> the pcmcia card ..

We had this A: B: partition discussion years ago. Many from
this list were involved trying to achive a partition visible
for the palmtop. All kind of tools were used under all kind
of operating systems to no avail! The palmtop refuses to
know B:

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Hello,

I bought a pair of 1000mAh Ni-Cd batteries for use in my 200LX. The
datasheet is available here:

http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/battery/oem/images/pdf/p-100aasjft.pdf

Can you suggest me a setting profile for use with the (now freeware)
ABC/LX charging software?

Thanks in advance, Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

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Steve wrote:

> The Developer's Guide says that "CardDRV" is what
> does the media changed update when the system wakes up.

CardDRV is just the DOS device driver I talked about recently.
There is another installable device driver for C: on your
palmtop, if you have the memory upgrade: RDT2T.EXE by Mack.

Usually device drivers have the extension SYS, but this is not
mandatory, they may also hide behind EXEs, using a different
program segment prefix.

AFAIK Mack also wrote a CardDRV replacement driver for the
bigger flashcards. I know of no other person than Mack who
could enlighten us in the start up delay problem.

> Any other ideas on tracking down a specific status byte
> in memory?

I feel there is none. The device driver is where you have to
drop the anchor.

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Hi Martin

On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:38:35 -0500, Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM> wrote:

> Is this on the back on the screen or on the motherboard?

on the back of the screen

> Okey on the back of the screen then..

exactly. ;-)

> So this is nothing I can do myself (or get my father to fix). You need
> to dissamble the whole Hplx?

Yes. I have once tried to take the scren apart without dismantling the
whole LX, but that doesn't work, because the left hinge has to be opened in order to
remove the screen from its case. For that you have to remove the hinge
tube, for that you have to remove the two white screw-like snap things
under the batteries, and there you only get by dismatling the whole LX
:-(


> My main machine has a problem where the screen goes black and pressing
> on the left corner fixes it. But the backup Hplx I can press right of
> the vertical lines and the lines dissapear.

Thiy _may_ mean it is only one loose contact per missing line on that
rubber band inside the screen. But it _may_ also mean it is one ot
these ICs on the back. You never know exactly, because the force you
apply when pressing can have effect on both.

> My lines goes vertical from about where it says F6 and to F7 and all
> the way verticle over the screen. If I press on the screen where it
> says F7 then the lines goes away. I have to push on the lower part of
> the screen to make them go away

As said aboce - that doesn't explicitly tell us where the problem is.
Unfortunately.

> Are the IC's that you did the soldering on below where I push to make
> the lines go away?

:-
The ICs are on all the back of the screen, I haven' counted, but I
think there are 10 ICs, each almost as large as a AppMgr icon.
But since I think it has something to do with the bending each time you
open/close the palmtop, only ICs on the right side should be affected,
and these ICs are responsible for the right side of the screen.
Hence my assumtion that mostly lines on the right are missing.

> I can have my dad fix this for me. He has all the SMD soldering thingys
> at work so that is not a problem. But I need to know step by step how
> to dismantle the Hplx. I am a bit scared to take it apart. How much do
> I have to take it apart to get to these IC's?

Totally.
Be sure you have a working spare LX. ;-)
It is tricky to do it the first time. However, if you have successfully
done it once, you don't want to stop anymore to dismantle LXs.

There is a good description of the process (at least for the lower
part, I don't know id David described also the screen part) an
www.hplx.net.

A link to the correct page on hplx.net is also on my homepage at
www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair

> How to tell what kind of screen I have.
>
> The serialnumber on the one I have problems with is:

I don't know how the dependencies arebetween manuf. date and used
screen. But I guess newer screens will have these covered ICs and only
older ones the ICs wiwth the free legs. I don't know where the
threshold is, though.

GTX
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On   Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:27:15 +0200 Daniel wrote:
>Hi friends,
>
>finally I was able to repair a screen with missing vertical lines.
SNIP
My backup backup palmtop has both the hinge crack and some missing vertical lines.
It is serial number SG54300657.

>Pressing on the edge of the screen, as I recommend on
>http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair ,
>sometimes also let the missing lines reappear, even in my case, and
>thus this may not necessary mean that the problem is a bad contact
>between electronics and glass.
SNIP
I tried pressing on the left side of the display as well as above and below the missing lines without any
change.

>My theory is that a tight hinge also affects the circuit board, because
>it is bent a little bit each time you open and close the screen.
>If my theroy is right, we should see that most missing lines will be in
>the right part of the screen, preferrably the 5 or 10 very right
>pixel columns. Is this correct? Please, if you also have a screen with
>missing lines, please let me know which lines are missing! It would be
>very interesting.

Mine is missing one vertical line just right of the "F5" label and five vertical lines over the "F7" label, it
does have a tight hinge.

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Hello All
All this discussion of display emulators for palmtop programs on x86 systems has got me thinking about running
WWWlx on my Omnibook 425.
Also my Thinkpad 560 is has developed an ominous symptom (when I right click on a file in explorer it takes a
minute or two before the pop-up menu appears) which reminds me that all my e-mail is on a fundamentally
unreliable system.
If anyone is using WWWlx on one of the early Omnibooks (300 or 425) could you let me know what your set-up is? I
have the Accton ethernet card to connect to the cable modem. I suppose I should figure out the dial-up
connection as well.
Thanks

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Hi Stefan,

On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:15:55 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> PE, HV and POST/LX use the 640x480 VGA screen. I added the
> 800x600 UGA mode to PALRUN, but cannot yet convince Andreas'
> programs to detect it ;-)

I think you rather should try to convice Andreas than his programs. ;-)

GTX
daniel

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Hi Stefan

On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:15:54 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> I fixed that but now another problem raises: If you spawn to
> DOS from POST/LX, the screen mode is no longer changed to CGA
> text, but remains VGA graphic. No problem if you don't change
> the screen mode in the DOS shell, but if you do and exit from
> the shell, POST/LX or PE are running in the screen mode you
> have set in DOS. Don't know how to fix that :-(

Does that also affect running externals? i.e. can't another than a PAL
editor be run when editing a message in order to let Post/LX use the
correct mode after exiting the editor?

I don't think it is necessary to change screen modes in a DOS session,
though.

GtX
daniel

P.S.: When will the new version be available?


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Hi PK

On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:49:05 +0530, pksharma <pksharma@CAL.VSNL.NET.IN> wrote:

> Wow ! an app under another ap under an OS
> under another OS !
>
> Amazing things still do happen !

Well, I simply want to be able to use Post/LX under Linux.
I have tried vmware, but that runs waaay to slow on the 166MHz
Omnibook. So I tried DOSEMU. Runs fast, but - unfortunately problems. I
hope these problems are somehow related to the graphics mode swiching,
so the new version of palrun _may_ avoid that.

I'll report how things go on.

GTX
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Hi Bing

On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:48:09 -0500, Bing Xu <bxu@SITE.UOTTAWA.CA> wrote:

> Anybody know if there are any products of Bluetooth for HP200?

There aren't.

But I hope we'll someday find a serial port Bluetooth dongle, which is
not too expensive and very small, so it can either be attached to the
serial port, or maybe even placed directly inside the case of the LX.

Serial dongles exist, but they are large, need external power sources
and so on...

PCMCIA cards etc cannot be used, because noone is writing DOS drivers
dor such devices. So it must be a totally transparent solution, which
looks for the palmtop as a standard serial RS232 connection, which
doesn't need any driver.

There is a product calld the "pico plug", sold for example by
www.hantz.de, (.com?), but this one is one of these too large dvices,
and the people at hantz were not very eloquent about the device when I
asked a bunch of question which should lead me to enlightenment if it
can be used with the HPLX or not.

GTX
daniel

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Has anyone created a CD with all the HPLX programs and files on
S.U.P.E.R.? Are copies available?

Bob Christopher     Littleton, Colorado USA     bob@palmtop.com

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16 hours charge time, 4 to 6 hours stall time probably 5, the peak voltage can be
ignored. Start charging at 2.32 volts or less. Depending on how low you set the
stall you might want to enable trickle charging. The thing about
Ni-Cads is they really need to be fully discharged before recharging to
consistantly get a good charge. 1000 mAh is about the max battery
capacity you'll want to use with abc/lx since it is limited to 16 hours
in the fast charge. You can find the charging time by the formula Time
in hours=battery Capacity in mAh*1.5/Charging current. The LX has two
charging currents 100mA for the fast and 40 mA for the trickle.

> Hello,
>
> I bought a pair of 1000mAh Ni-Cd batteries for use in my 200LX. The
> datasheet is available here:
>
> http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/battery/oem/images/pdf/p-100aasjft.pdf
>
> Can you suggest me a setting profile for use with the (now freeware)
> ABC/LX charging software?
>
> Thanks in advance, Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.
>
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>
> > Panasonics 1500 mAh are just as good and seem to withstand heavier drains a
> > little better.
>
> I have to throw mine away and buy another brand then.
>

One thing about both the panasonics and sanyos is they seem to have
pretty high self discharge rates. They are ok if you use them right
away but not too good if you let them sit around after charging.

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Stefan Peichl wrote:
>
> If I remember right, one problem was to handle Alt-M in cases,
> where the application was already aware of Alt-M,
>
> I have no problem with the menu key, All of Andreas' programs I
> use, either support Alt-M or allow to create a macro to assign
> any key to the menu key.

I can't verify this since I'm on the road, but ...

Alt-M or any other key in PRO/LX under Palrun on a Compaq laptop
running on WinNT will not call the menu.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Hi all - I also did not use the to-do's because I thought that they were
hooked to a specific date unless you F9'ed and purposely made them to repeat
daily.

Being a programmer I tested the to-do's, by creating a new to-do on today's
date, then scrolling to tomorrow, and the to-do did not re-appear there,
although I checked the Checkbox (whatsitcalled??).  Then I created a todo
tomorrow, and scrolled back to today and once again it did not re-appear.

So I thought the to-do's were a load of bull.

However, months later when I actually created a todo, I noticed that in
fact, as stated in the help / manual / mailing lists, the to-do item
actaully re-appears on TODAY's date, always, and on no other date other than
TODAY and the date on which it was created.

Well that made it worthwhile for me !!

Donald Klopper
Africa's last HPLX stronghold. :-P


> I had to check you out on that Fn-t since I use Fn-a!  Seems Fn-t opens
> a todo which I never use while Fn-a opens the appointment

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>> either the cable (which looks quite sturdy) or the serial port on my
>> 200.
>> Is there a way to test the latter?
>
> Doesn't the CP come with loop back connectors to test the serial
> port?  If not Norton Utilities (use to?) come with them.

I don't know where to get the loop-back connector, but if you did have one,
there is a serial port test in the palmtop's built-in test suite.

***WARNING!***
Never select the test suite's "card" test (and never select "all tests") if
you have any kind of flash card in the slot -- YOU WILL LOSE YOUR DATA AND
MAY HARM YOUR CARD!!! This test is meant for older SRAM cards ONLY!!!

To access the test suite, turn the palmtop off, remove your card, hold down
the Esc key and press On.

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There are two kinds of data:
1. The backed up kind.
2. The kind that has not been lost *YET*.

> If not, well, that's what back-ups are for...
>
> Bruce in Toronto

Wild Wisdom
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Just a thought - remember that files copied from CD are flagged as
"read-only" by Windows.

Have you  tried removing that readonly flag?

Donald

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> ... I'm sorry about my posts, but I'm seeing a lot of work getting more
> and more lost.
> I located an old .gdb file on one of my backup cd's, but now I find the
> connectivitypack database util can't read it!!! It's not protected by
> password or anything.
> Does anyone have a solution? If you want you can try it yourself:
> http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural/track.gdb
>

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Did you in fact replace the backup battery? (The small watch-type battery
next to the IR port)
I don't see you mention that in your mail.



>It does this with brand new alkaline batteries and with loaded nimh too.

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And didn't I learn that the hard way!!!!!!! Fortunately I had a backup,
fdisk and format handy.

Donald

> ***WARNING!***
> Never select the test suite's "card" test (and never select "all tests")
if
> you have any kind of flash card in the slot -- YOU WILL LOSE YOUR DATA AND
> MAY HARM YOUR CARD!!! This test is meant for older SRAM cards ONLY!!!

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Finally the flash card delay after power on is solved. Steve
Novosad gave the idea by mentioning FIXEDA from the SDK, which
is almost what we needed. FIXEDA reports "don't know" if the
card has changed. I only had to change it to "card not changed"

The new TSR is called NODELAY and it changes from the DOS point
of view your flash card to a fixed (unremovable) disk. Now this
means, you should treat your card like a fixed disk, if you use
NODELAY. Be sure to read the DOC. Only use it if you have a
good backup. Loss of all your data is very likely to happen.
It probably could even destroy your card. I don't know.

Find a way to lock your PCMCIA slot if you use NODELAY.
I would only recommend it to users who have only one flash card,
which is never removed from the slot. Then it is save and very
useful.

Don't put NODELAY in your AUTOEXEC.BAT! If you forgot to
unload NODELAY before removing a card, you still have a chance
to reboot your system thereby removing NODELAY from memory so
that the next card inserted is recognized as new card.

It's a very dangerous utility comparable to atomic power
plants: You feel save as long as nothing happens. But if
something happens, the damage is so tremendous, that you
wish, the technology should have been never invented.

Download from:

http://peichl.hplx.net/nodelay.zip

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Hi friends,

> > Doesn't the CP come with loop back connectors to test the serial
> > port?  If not Norton Utilities (use to?) come with them.
>
> I don't know where to get the loop-back connector, but if you did have one,
> there is a serial port test in the palmtop's built-in test suite.

The loopback connector which is needed for this test can easily made
with the connectivity cable and some pieces of insulated wire:

Based on the info on my homepage http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/rs232 I
tried  to simply shorten each pair of lines (Rx-Tx, DTR-DSR,
CTS-RTS, RI and DCD simply shortened to ground and shield. This only
with a few wires and the connectivity cable.

This made the test routine at least show "Ctl Line" instead of "no
loop", so it is a beginning, ;-)

Does anyone know the correct loop wiring? I have left Ri, DCD and
shield away, this resulted also in the Ctl line error. So there must
still be something wrong.

GTX
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To all of you who celebrate this holiday, I wish you a Happy
thanksgiving Day!

  Avi Meshar
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  http://www.dasoft.com

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I am trying to set up my Jornada 690 to run as many of my 200LX programs =
as I
can.  I can get acCIS 4 to run just fine.  Post/LX, however, is not =
working.  I
copied my c:\www directory to d:\www on the CF card in my Jornada and =
changed the drive
references.  When I try to run Post, it aborts with a message about Not =
being
able to find the mailbox named Mail.  I have a "mail" entry, since I =
copied it
directly over from the working version on my 200LX.  Any ideas?

 Steve Carder <steve@carderfamily.net>
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> IF the 30% increase in run-time between the "old" red/gold
> Lithiums and the "new" E2 blue/silver Lithiums holds true, that
> translates to a run-time cost of 3.5 cents per hour in the LX.
> Obviously, The extra cost of Lithiums over regular alkalines is
> the cost of convenience in not having to change the batteries
> out so often, not tossing so many batteries into the landfill
> and not encountering power drop-off problems inherent with
> alkalines.

But then factor in the fact that the lithium's can be used in other
electric items such as flashlights which is what I do with them.  They
will continue powering things like flashlights even if they do not have
sufficient power for the HP.

I use them in my camping headlight.  I think I even shoved a pair into
my gps but don't recall.

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Just some serial port questions?

Are you running buddy and is the port locked?

Does your desktop speed (baud) and the hp match?

Is the com port on your desktop only used for the HP or might a mouse or
palm device also be using that port or modem?

Obviously, you can try another cable.

There is some loop back test using a paper clip and connecting to the
hp's pins but I don't know how to run it.  If you do run a self-test, DO
NOT run the card test on a FLASH or compact flash card - it is designed
ONLY FOR SRAM (old tech) cards.

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> Hi Avi,
>
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:57:01 -0800, info@DASOFT.COM wrote:
>
> > FYI - MM/LX version 2.0 is now on the download sites of D&A Software. =
When
> > you d/l MM.ZIP you'll get Version 2.0.
>
> Fine. I just downloaded the new version.
> But so far, I could not find any improvement, which you spoke about
> recently. Is somewhere a "what's new" collection? I would be interested
> mainly in which bugs are fixed.

Correct. What needs to be added is known. There is NO known
schedule right now when these items will be added.
Speculatively, I would say that maybe if there is a good
discussion of what is missing still, item by item, then it
will possibly help in coming up with the additions. I cannot
guarantee this right now. However, I am encouraged that
Andreas says he is aware of a list of things that should be
added.

I also found out he is NOT lurking here as I thought he was,
do not know when he stopped. This means that I and the betas
who are here active will relay the items to him. So if
something is badly missing, can we get a good definition of
the need? Will make it easier to tell Andreas what people
want.

here is the list he provided me:

Open Issues:

- JPEG/GIF support?

- HTML loses hierarchy if 1 child at level 1 and no Children?

- Check referrential integrity

  (I don't know, so don't ask me <g>... Assuming making sure
  things that think they point to something indeed do.)

- Add children to collapsed

- CTRL-RIGHT etc. in dialogs

- Cut, paste to different level

  |   notes are not indented correctly

I understand that some of you use MindMap/LX on non-Palmtop
platforms. Unfortunately, I doubt that Andreas will support
problems there, so the proper forum for that would be to post
here, not to ask D&A or him to support these platforms. Theere
is simply no way for us to test and try out the many varieties
in Notebooks, and desktops and offer help. Sorry.

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Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:07:11 +1300 (NZDT)

07h25m33s ago ...
On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:41:38 -0500, Steve Carder wrote:

> I am trying to set up my Jornada 690 to run as many of my
> 200LX programs as I can.  I can get acCIS 4 to run just fine.
> Post/LX, however, is not working.

I think HP Staber reported the same on his Jordana 720. HV
worked under XT-CE, albeit slowly with WWW.EXE, but POST.EXE
wouldn't work. Or maybe that was with PocketDOS.

- Tony

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If you find anything useful, please post it.

Thanks,
Larry Mittell

At 10:38 PM 11/21/01, Martin Bergvill wrote:
>On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:07:30 +0100, Juan Belmonte Moreno wrote:
>
> >  Sorry, I could be wrong. But I think that the one which you need is to
> >  install a proxy program in your desktop. (Or Internet Connection Sharing
> >  from Win98SE itself)
>
>I run Win2000Pro on the main computer which is connected to the
>internet. Then I have Win98SE on the other desktop computer and laptop
>computer. I can surf on the laptop through the network connection. So
>the IS is already working.
>
> >  It allows you to do Intenet on every computer connected to your home LAN
> >  through your desktop dial-up Internet connection. If you use xDSL or cable
> >  it may be more difficult.
> >
> >  I expect that this is you useful.
>
>I do that already, but how to get WWW/LX to "see" the connection which
>is already there.
>
>I will try some more when I get the time, but I am sure that somebody
>wrote here at the list about some utility which he installed on the
>Winxx machine which made WWW/LX "see" the connection which was already
>there. I will have a look at the archives.

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I want to try to fix the hinge crack of my HP 200LX by putting a little
drop of superglue or epoxy glue into the crack. Are there any recommendat=
ions
about glues that are available in Germany?

Thanks,

Carsten






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Hi Stefan,

>>But I know, you don't give up easily. I'm looking forward to
the discussion when we have our next beer ;-)<<

LOL, I see you got my aim. now I feel like a mole... <VBG>

>>If I remember right, one problem was to handle Alt-M in cases,
where the application was already aware of Alt-M,<<

Well, there were places it helped and worked and there were places
where the "interferences" crashed the computer. May I suggest that you
add an additional parameter to enable the <alt><m> translation if
somebody wants to try using the already available routine? Just an idea
worth another beer <G>.

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Hi ..pk,

I don't think you need a disassembler for modifying the keyboard
layout. You may use the little utility key200.com in d:\bin to alter
any key on the keyboard (that works for me using a German keyboard on a
US motherboard).

Generate a file named keynew.lst with the key assignments you want to
use. The file should look like (one key assignment per line)

 q : a a q
 w : b b w
 e : c c e
 r : d d r
 t : e e t
 ...and so on.

Installing: Issue d:\bin\key200 keynew.lst at the command promt (or add
that line to zour autoexec.bat).
Removing: just run d:\bin\key200 a second time.

Hopefully this is what you're looking for without using one of these
disassemblers who give you lots of information, but probably not what
you need <G>.

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Hi Stefan,

a second front for making beers <G>. Thanks for NODELAY.COM and please
think about NODELAY2.COM|

If I understand what NODELAY does: Every time the palmtop is powered on
the status byte is set to "card not changed". I assume that you know
how to hook into the system to perform any task at power on. Please try
to add a simple logic to NODELAY:

 - read the unique card number and compare it to the saved value (which
   you saved the last time calling NODELAY, on first start of NODELAY
   this number is set to zero)
 - if the value has changed, don't change the status of the card (or
   set to "card changed")
 - if the value is identical, change to "card not changed"
 - save the actual unique card number to NODELAY-stack
 - proceed power on as usual

Comments: AFAIK any flash card (disk) has an unique number (which is
generated during a format). To read this number and to compare it to a
stored value is the trick to make NODELAY working in any situation.
Well, of course the palmtop has to be switched off to swap cards...

That should even work with modems and other cards: No unique number
just leads to clearing the internal stack of NODELAY (if there is no
number) before proceeding with the startup routine (status set to "card
changed"). Because of this stack reset changing back to a memory card
just invokes the re-read of the FAT (because the card change is
detected). IMHO no lock of the PCMCIA slot is needed when using
NODELAY2. Should be safe <G>.

Well, having said that we should go back to talking about beers <VBG>.

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Gutten tag Gottfried!
Are you sure it works for you?  ;-)
bob

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{Clip}
> (that works for me using a German keyboard on a US
> motherboard).
{Clip}
> that line to zour autoexec.bat).

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hi,

does someone know if there are 220 MB Sandisk flashcards available
in Europe at prices mentioned on the list recently?
The auctions at ebay were only shipping to U.S.

txs,
Werner


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Dennis,
I just have the dll file in the same directory that I have the executable,
but I imagine that if you put it in either the windows directory or another
directory that is in the search path it should work.
Hope this helps - bob
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> I get an error saying that the .dll file cannot be found. Is
> it so simple as copying the .dll file to a specific Windows directory, or
is
> something sinister going on here?

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Thanks Gottfried

my mistake .. in my eagerness abt the disassembler i should
have mentioned that it was not for the lx200 but for my
regular deskop .. in dos environment

i take it key200.com works for the hp lx200 .. will it
work for a desktop too ?

From: "Gottfried Burckhardt" <GBurckhardt@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 3:57 PM

> I don't think you need a disassembler for modifying the keyboard
> layout. You may use the little utility key200.com in d:\bin to alter
> any key on the keyboard (that works for me using a German keyboard on a
> US motherboard).

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pksharma wrote:

> i need a disassembler for finding out how the small
> program abcd.com works .. it was made by a friend
> who has since left for USA .. he is now too busy ..
> this program changes the layout from qwerty to
> alphabetic .. a is on top left key .. b is on the 2nd top
> left key .. z is on the bottom right key .. very very
> useful for all my staff who refused to work on the
> 'difficult' qwerty keyboard .. i need to do some
> changes to make the keyboard into fitaly kind of
> keyboard .. can you help please ?  its a 2k program !
>
> ..pk

Hi,

   Yes, but...

   1) You can zip up the file and send it to me.  I'll
run it through the disassembler.  But there is not much
chance that you will get something all that useful.
Especially if it was written in C or BASIC.  The start-
up code tends to muddy things.  Also there are a lot of
options to set, and they may do something different than
you expect.  With that in mind.  What CPU are you targeting
(8088 or 80386+)?  What assembler are you using?  The
default is to actually make it not assemble!

   2) If you can use the disassembler's code, you can
use DEBUG to generate the code.  (Unless you have 386
instruction codes.)  And for small changes, it might
be easier.

   3) You could go to Simtel (an MS-DOS program repository),
and download a keyboard remapper that has source code.
They have a disassembler there as well.

   4) Dosen't the 200LX have a key remapper built in,
that would work?

   5) You can remap the keyboard using ANSI.SYS, which
is a part of MS-DOS.

   And I guess this is off topic.  So we should take
it off the HPLX list.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:33:27 -0500
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I just wanted to publicly thank D& A Software for the
recently available freeware.  ABC/LX, MM/LX,
QUICK/LX, and TT/LX are all excellent programs.

David Solinas

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Steve Carder wrote:
>
> I am trying to set up my Jornada 690 to run as many of my 200LX programs as I
> can.  I can get acCIS 4 to run just fine.  Post/LX, however, is not working.  I
> copied my c:\www directory to d:\www on the CF card in my Jornada and changed the drive
> references.  When I try to run Post, it aborts with a message about Not being
> able to find the mailbox named Mail.  I have a "mail" entry, since I copied it
> directly over from the working version on my 200LX.  Any ideas?

I failed to load POST/LX together with WWW/LX such as in the command

    www -d "!POST"

under PocketDOS on my J720. I have no idea why.

In your case you should check_all_path statements related to the mail
directory. On the Palmtop it is most likely c:\mail. What is the drive
letter under XT-CE where you have \mail ? What is in your .cfg ? Etc.

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Hello folks,

I can resist anything but this kind of temptation, so two days ago I bought
one for $50. They won't ship internationally if your purchase is less than
$500, but I got it shipped to my N.Y. cousin. When you "Buy now" they send
an e-mail telling you to phone them to learn the shipping charge and to make
payment, which I just did; the shipping cost $6.50.

I'm on a new Dell with WinXP using Internet Explorer, and I'm not too
familiar with either. Please let me know if this is going out in HTML - I
think I've configured things to send plain text to the list .
Apologies if it is Html.

Regards,

Richard.

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Subject: Re: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay


> Ed,
>
> I agree. So far I have bought 2 from Silicon Salvage. Been very pleased.
 $50 ea, No tax and No Shipping (i Pick up).
>
> Joe
>
>> From:    Ed Padin> Subject: Re: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay
>
> Well, just got mine and it seems to work well. No drivers needed.

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Hi Avi & Beta

On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:21:54 -0500, Avi <info@dasoft.com> wrote:

> Open Issues:
>
> - JPEG/GIF support?

Can't that be easily handled by links and lxpic?

> - CTRL-RIGHT etc. in dialogs

That's a matter of PAL, not MM. But Andreas said he evetually wanted to
modify even the PAL library that this becomes possible.

>   |   notes are not indented correctly

Can you please say in detail what is meant here?
I have never had a real problem with notes, besides that MM removes
leading spaces, as we discussed earlier. But once I understood why it
does, I'm now simply add a dot in front of each note line which shall
begin with spaces.
Another issue are the two different kinds of file format:
NoteIndent=
and
NoteIndent=| (equal to
;NoteIndent=
(commented out it defaults to "=|").

I have made a little BAT file which uses sed to convert from
Noteindent=|
to
Noteindent=
format. Works very well. But I don't know how to manage the oppowite
conversion.

May I suggest another feature:
It would be cool if maps could be saved with their status of shown /
collapsed items (maybe, if the mm file should be kept ASCII-only)
simply in a seperate file, say for FILE.MM these info could be saved in
FILE.INI or so...
Other data could easily be saved there, too.
Or _at_least_ it would be good to be able to save a different collapse
level for each map. So the central "Collapse=x" entry in mm.cfg vould
be replaced by a section Collapse and then there could be one entry
for each MM file describing its collapse level.

Collapse
FILE1.MM=2
FILE2.MM=4
FILE3.MM=0

and so on.

What do you think?

GTX
daniel

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> I just wanted to publicly thank D& A Software for the
> recently available freeware.  ABC/LX, MM/LX,
> QUICK/LX, and TT/LX are all excellent programs.
>
> David Solinas

I concur.   If all companies made such decisions at least once in a while,
this would be a better world.   :-)

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Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:45:16 +1300 (NZDT)

01h56m01s ago ...
On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:49:15 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi Avi & Beta
>
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:21:54 -0500, Avi <info@dasoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Open Issues:
> >
> > - JPEG/GIF support?
>
> Can't that be easily handled by links and lxpic?

I think that refers to support similar to .icn support. For
eample the following .MM automatically displays the pictures
when it is loaded.

   d:\bin\maze.icn
      d:\bin\hexcalc.icn
      c:\www\www.icn

Caio,
Tony

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Bob Christopher wrote:
> Has anyone created a CD with all the HPLX programs and files on
> S.U.P.E.R.? Are copies available?

I'd buy one if available.

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On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:20:04 +0200, Micha Klopper wrote:

> And didn't I learn that the hard way!!!!!!! Fortunately I had a backup,
> fdisk and format handy.
>
> Donald
>
> > ***WARNING!***
> > Never select the test suite's "card" test (and never select "all tests")
> if
> > you have any kind of flash card in the slot -- YOU WILL LOSE YOUR DATA AND
> > MAY HARM YOUR CARD!!! This test is meant for older SRAM cards ONLY!!!

Donald

You are nnot alone...:-)

I "nuked" my card with this test also. Had a recent backup, but lost
some because of this..

Regards

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> From: "Steve" <novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM>
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 11:56 PM

 >    1) You can zip up the file and send it to me.  I'll
> run it through the disassembler.

Will do ..


> What assembler are you using?


This was done using MASM (vers 6 probably)
> The default is to actually make it not assemble!

meaning ?


>    3) You could go to Simtel (an MS-DOS program repository),
> and download a keyboard remapper that has source code.

any hints of the name of the remapper program ? ..
but i would think that key200 in d:\_bin of the lx200 is better ..
provided that it does work on the desktop keybd too


> They have a disassembler there as well.

again .. any hints of the name of the disassembler prog ?


>    4) Dosen't the 200LX have a key remapper built in,
> that would work?

key200.com in d:\_bin .. see earlier posts .. but still to
be informed whether it works on desktop .. i've posted
that question to Gottfield


>    5) You can remap the keyboard using ANSI.SYS, which
> is a part of MS-DOS.

yes .. i did it in dos a long time ago .. i've forgotten how ..
anybody remember .. i detest the need to press shift to get
the colon character everytime i have to mention the
C: drive .. so i had just switched the colon and semicolon
with the ansi.sys


>    And I guess this is off topic.  So we should take
> it off the HPLX list.

yes .. i've mentioned "OT" on the subject ..
so please send replies to me direct .. this should be
the last msg on this topic here everybody .. thanks
for your responses :-)

..pk

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Bob,
Both files were unzipped to the same directory, but I still get the error
message. Thanks for the help, though.

Dennis

> I just have the dll file in the same directory that I have the executable,

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Just a thought...

Could NODELAY be modified to allow you to change cards PROVIDED, you powered
on while holding a key...Or be enabled/disabled via a key combination?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Peichl" <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
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Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 3:50 PM
Subject: ANN: NODELAY.COM


Finally the flash card delay after power on is solved. Steve
Novosad gave the idea by mentioning FIXEDA from the SDK, which
is almost what we needed. FIXEDA reports "don't know" if the
card has changed. I only had to change it to "card not changed"

The new TSR is called NODELAY and it changes from the DOS point
of view your flash card to a fixed (unremovable) disk. Now this
means, you should treat your card like a fixed disk, if you use
NODELAY. Be sure to read the DOC. Only use it if you have a
good backup. Loss of all your data is very likely to happen.
It probably could even destroy your card. I don't know.

Find a way to lock your PCMCIA slot if you use NODELAY.
I would only recommend it to users who have only one flash card,
which is never removed from the slot. Then it is save and very
useful.

Don't put NODELAY in your AUTOEXEC.BAT! If you forgot to
unload NODELAY before removing a card, you still have a chance
to reboot your system thereby removing NODELAY from memory so
that the next card inserted is recognized as new card.

It's a very dangerous utility comparable to atomic power
plants: You feel save as long as nothing happens. But if
something happens, the damage is so tremendous, that you
wish, the technology should have been never invented.

Download from:

http://peichl.hplx.net/nodelay.zip

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> I may be showing too many hours without time off, but I cannot seem to get
> WinGDB to run. I get an error saying that the .dll file cannot be found. Is

I have hpdbdll.dll in the same directory as gdbwin's main exe file

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I used the cheapest superglue I found. NOT for fixing hinge crack, but for COMPLETELY SNIPPED display. I degreased it and made a rough surface on it. I found that cheap superglues have low viscosity. I found it better for fixing this. The snipped display
now lasts 4 months on 200lx which is used very frequently.

Radek




                    Carsten Homburg
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                    2001-11-23 09:24
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                    Please respond
                    to Carsten
                    Homburg






I want to try to fix the hinge crack of my HP 200LX by putting a little
drop of superglue or epoxy glue into the crack. Are there any recommendations
about glues that are available in Germany?

Thanks,

Carsten






________________________________________
Schreib mal wieder eine Karte! ePostkarten gibt es jetzt bei http://www.epost.de

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Is there anyway to expand memory on a 100LX?

I thought I recalled that certain 100LX's (with a certain serial number
range) were capable of a memeory upgrade.

Does anyone know how to do this, or if anyone does it?

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Gottfried Burckhardt wrote:

> a second front for making beers <G>.

To enlighten the rest of the list: we meet each other
frequently at the "swabian" palmtop regulars table in
Waiblingen, South Germany and take some beer or Trollinger
wine ;-) Newcomers are welcome. It is organized by Tom Rundel.

> Please try to add a simple logic to NODELAY:
>
>  - read the unique card number and compare it to the saved value (which
>    you saved the last time calling NODELAY, on first start of NODELAY
>    this number is set to zero)
>  - if the value has changed, don't change the status of the card (or
>    set to "card changed")
>  - if the value is identical, change to "card not changed"
>  - save the actual unique card number to NODELAY-stack
>  - proceed power on as usual

This is insufficient, because a card with the same number can
have modified FAT and directory entries. The card was possibly
in your notebook in the meantime, and you copied to the card.

But I see what you mean. NODELAY could be made more comfortable,
but comfort also often results in carelessness of the user,
which is absolutely unwanted in this very case. A lack of
comfort deters potential users, but keeps them save on the
other hand.

Besides, some cards have to be sacrificed to test a new NODELAY
in various situations. Very costly and time consuming.

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Folks,
Decided to clean out my closet, so the following gadgets all looking
for a good home :-) Everything as is.. they all worked the last time I
fooled with them and I'm sending all the pieces I have, but won't
guarantee anything, since they've been sitting unused for quite a while:
a) Motorola PM100D - worked with Ardis until they dumped us a couple of
years ago. May only be good for WinCE. Cost =3D shipping only.
b) Delorme Earthmate - hardware only. Cost =3D shipping only.
c) Pegasus 3JTech 56 Modem. Small, only "problem" is that it's
powersource is a keyboard pass-thru dongle. Cost =3D shipping only.
d) Caldera Openlinux 2.2 + Powerquest Partition Magic 4.0 Cost =3D
shipping only.
e) Matsucom onHand wearable PC. Cost =3D $10 + shipping.
f) Cross Pad XP. All pieces except the training paperwork. Cost =3D
shipping.
Here's how it goes: Please reply off list to snirody@clarian.org If
someone will take the whole lot I'd greatly prefer that (less work for
me shipping), otherwise first request I receive for each part gets it.
Once again - AS IS, but the price is right!!
Suresh

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Stefan,

Nodelay doesn't seem to have any effect on my lx. I have a
sandisk 350mb card and use the acecard driver. Could there be a
conflict with this, or with the T2T drivers for a DS32LX?

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> Bob Christopher wrote:
> > Has anyone created a CD with all the HPLX programs and files on
> > S.U.P.E.R.? Are copies available?
>
> I'd buy one if available.
>
> Cheers... Russ

If no one from SUPER comes forward I could burn a few copies.

Mike Kopplin

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And if I got one, I could start distributing the things at about cost (plus
a euro for effort ;-) inside Europe. So, I'll take one if someone burns it
first..

If people are interested (EU only for starters) I have about 125MB available
for the LX's now, being:
a) Some 320 programs LX /Dos (40 MB), including fairly unfindable
(non-SUPER) oddities like Taskbar, flashfile drivers etc etc
b) plus the full HPLX listserver message logs.
c) Photo's, other LX docs and sundries

I am NOT going to set up production, but won't mind burning some CD's.
Conditions: Paypal, Europe.

Michel

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Kopplin mailto:kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU
Sent: 24 November 2001 16:17
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: SUPER Files on CD


> Bob Christopher wrote:
> > Has anyone created a CD with all the HPLX programs and files on
> > S.U.P.E.R.? Are copies available?
>
> I'd buy one if available.
>
> Cheers... Russ

If no one from SUPER comes forward I could burn a few copies.

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Date:         Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:04:05 -0800
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Bob Christopher wrote:

> Has anyone created a CD with all the HPLX programs and files on
> S.U.P.E.R.? Are copies available?

No, because of the difficulties in obtaining permission from the authors
of all the software -- in fact, copies of SUPER on CD cannot be legally
distributed because a number of authors of software on SUPER have
specifically prohibited the inclusion of their software on a CD of any
sort.

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Date:         Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:28:30 -0700
Reply-To:     Kiyoshi Akima <k_akima@HOTMAIL.COM>
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I'm surprised nobody mentioned the disassembler built into the ROM of the
200LX. It won't generate files that can easily be passed back into an
assembler but it does do a passable job of disassembling 8086 code.

I refer, of course, to D:\DOS\DEBUG.EXE .

Kiyoshi Akima

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Date:         Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:35:47 -0600
Reply-To:     Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
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I'll second Ian's admonition about copying files from SUPER and putting them
on a CD; and add that I'm still stinging from the vitriolic email received
from several authors when we inadvertently posted their software on SUPER.
(Some of it had to be removed, some remained but only after profuse
apologies and 'gifts' to the authors.)

OTOH: The CD InfoBase from Thaddeus Computing has about 90% of the files
currently on SUPER plus many more that never made it to SUPER, plus so many
other goodies that it would take the life time of an LX to go through it
all. It's missing the last year's worth of uploads to SUPER (but these could
probably fit on a floppy disk). The search engine/viewer for the past issues
of The HP Palmtop Paper may or may not work in WinME/XP but the duplicate
set of documents in HTML will do so.

BTW: www.PalmtopPaper.com is back in business with a brand new shopping
cart, thanks to the Webmaster, Matt Arrant.

.ed. (no longer affiliated with the company: once again just a satisfied
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Date:         Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:29:58 +0530
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Debug.exe .. the regular msdos debug program ..
This was the 1st to be mentioned in other not
related posts .. meaning not related to my
request .. it's a bit difficult to follow what
its does ..

..pk

(also now it is OT - off topic ! no more
postings on this pl .. any one wanting to
communciate on this .. send me an
email : pksharma@india.com )


From: "Kiyoshi Akima" <k_akima@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: disassembler


> I'm surprised nobody mentioned the disassembler built into the ROM of the
> 200LX.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:44:07 +0100
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From:         Jasper de Jong <djdjo000@WXS.NL>
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Hi!

First of all, thanks for all your help guys!

> Just some serial port questions?
> Are you running buddy and is the port locked?

I was, but now the HP has completely reset and it still doesn't work...

> Does your desktop speed (baud) and the hp match?

Yes, I check the settings over and over again.

> Is the com port on your desktop only used for the HP or might a mouse or
> palm device also be using that port or modem?

It's dedicated to the HP. I've also tried my laptop, but with no luck.

> Obviously, you can try another cable.

Yeah, that'd be the most simple solution. the only thing is I can't find
a cable in this neighbourhood. I guess I have to try to check the cable
with a multimeter...

Thanks again!

Jasper
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Date:         Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:35:37 -0500
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Sorry folks,
Al put in the first bid for the entire lot, so that's where I'll be
sending it.
Suresh

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Date:         Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:32:39 -0500
Reply-To:     Keith Grider <k.grider@EARTHLINK.NET>
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I used to subscribe and am re-subbing.  I have not needed any of the general
discussions and used to read the list on the HPLX news server until it went
belly up and lost my username/password. Is this group still healthy? I know
that there is not another unit currently available that satisfies MY needs
like the trusty 200LX. I just got DSL at home and am now trying to get
Ethernet capability for the LX and was dismayed that SUPER as well as HPLX
was down. I thought that they may have 'ceased to be' (as in ex-parrot).
Relief was that I just logged in and all was still well in LX land as both
Super and HPLX.net were back up. Is there any other solution for Ethernet
other than the Accton 2216? I know that this or the Silicom used to be the
only ones that work. Any other PCMCIA solutions out there (low power with
drivers)?

Regards,

Keith Grider
200LX 2mb+6mb 2x speed
modem
CF backup

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Date:         Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:54:16 +0100
Reply-To:     Jasper de Jong <djdjo000@WXS.NL>
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From:         Jasper de Jong <djdjo000@WXS.NL>
Subject:      email and tcpip
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Hi!

I've been on this list for a week or so now and I guess a lot of people
are actually using their 200 to read their mail.
I'm going abroad for a few months and I'm thinking about turning my 200
into an email-reader/writer.
What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to buy the D&A
packet unfortunately...

thanks
jasper

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Date:         Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:25:00 -0500
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From:         Tralornik <Tralornik@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: email and tcpip
Comments: To: Jasper de Jong <djdjo000@WXS.NL>
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I know very little about this, but check out:

http://www.palmtop.com/

for email usage.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jasper de Jong" <djdjo000@WXS.NL>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 6:54 AM
Subject: email and tcpip


> Hi!
>
> I've been on this list for a week or so now and I guess a lot of people
> are actually using their 200 to read their mail.
> I'm going abroad for a few months and I'm thinking about turning my 200
> into an email-reader/writer.
> What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to buy the D&A
> packet unfortunately...
>
> thanks
> jasper
>
> --
> djdjo000@wxs.nl
> http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural
>
> Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298
>
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Date:         Sun, 25 Nov 2001 09:39:34 +0100
Reply-To:     Etienne Lemaire <stelem@attglobal.net>
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From:         Etienne Lemaire <etienne.lemaire@PANDORA.BE>
Subject:      Re: email and tcpip
Comments: To: Jasper de Jong <djdjo000@WXS.NL>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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I am a long time user of Goin'Postal, which is free, easy to use
and very reliable; a bit hard to get working on some GSM's.
I seem to remember that Post/LX offers more in this regard: SMs,
address book, I think.

GP (on Super) lets you have access to multiple providers, and
mailboses, send and receive attachments.

Etienne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jasper de Jong" <djdjo000@WXS.NL>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 12:54 PM
Subject: email and tcpip


| Hi!
|
| I've been on this list for a week or so now and I guess a lot
of people
| are actually using their 200 to read their mail.
| I'm going abroad for a few months and I'm thinking about
turning my 200
| into an email-reader/writer.
| What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to
buy the D&A
| packet unfortunately...
|
| thanks
| jasper
|
| --
| djdjo000@wxs.nl
| http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural
|
| Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298
|
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|
|

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Date:         Sun, 25 Nov 2001 08:42:09 +0000
Reply-To:     Gottfried Burckhardt <GBurckhardt@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Hi Bob,

>>> that line to zour autoexec.bat).<<

>>Gutten tag Gottfried!
Are you sure it works for you?  ;-)
bob<<

well... yes.... most time. Hmm, too much fiddling without reboot or
reinstalling key200 (you see, now it works again <G>).

   Bye for now  Gottfried

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Date:         Sun, 25 Nov 2001 08:42:11 +0000
Reply-To:     Gottfried Burckhardt <GBurckhardt@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Hi Stefan,

>>This is insufficient, because a card with the same number can
have modified FAT and directory entries. The card was possibly
in your notebook in the meantime, and you copied to the card.<<

good point. Hmm. So we need a second indicator. Any writing to the card
results in rewriting the FAT, but for sure not the whole one.

Do you know about a register (or a cell) which is rewritten if a write
to the card occured? Something like "size of the FAT". Or another cell?
If you know such a byte you can sense the content or at least you can
write a signature into that place which will be deleted, overwritten or
altered when something was written to the card from another
computer...

>>Besides, some cards have to be sacrificed to test a new NODELAY
in various situations. Very costly and time consuming.<<

Regarding scrapping a card. I'd risk one, if I understand what you're
doing <G>. BTW there is a rumor about the next meeting in Waiblingen on
Dec. 14th, check your plans <G>.

   Bye for now  Gottfried

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Date:         Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:33:01 +0200
Reply-To:     Nigel Rotherham <nigel@KEEPSMILING.CO.ZA>
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From:         Nigel Rotherham <nigel@KEEPSMILING.CO.ZA>
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Just a minute Donald!  Would actually prefer you to revise your signature line
from

"Donald Klopper
Africa's last HPLX stronghold. :-P"

to:

Donald Klopper
One of Africa's last HPLX strongholds. :-P
                                             

as I also am a enthusiastic (albeit HP95) LX user <big grin>!!!!

Best regards to all from Nigel R who is also in sunny South Africa :-)

P.S. Hope no offence taken as nothing other that a SMILE intended...

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Date:         Sun, 25 Nov 2001 06:43:41 -0500
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Write to me in private at info@dasoft.com about what you do and what the trip you plan is all about. If my guess is right=
, maybe something can be done <G>...

Avi

<< What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to buy the D&A
packet unfortunately... >>


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Date:         Sun, 25 Nov 2001 13:28:01 +0100
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Subject:      email from PC to 200lx ?
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Hi All,

how can i read/synchronize my email from PC(Eudora) to HP 200lx? need i
like a IntelliSync (like a palm etc)?

many thanks!

edy

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Date:         Mon, 26 Nov 2001 00:15:06 +1100
Reply-To:     Tim Pitman <tpitman@SOUTHCOM.COM.AU>
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From:         Tim Pitman <tpitman@SOUTHCOM.COM.AU>
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Several years ago, I wrote a program called "palm link" (which is on Super)
which will sync between Eudora and the palmtop.  Has anyone else made a
similar program for Outlook or Outlook Express?

Regards,

Tim

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From: "Edy Wijaya" <wijaya@HITNET.RWTH-AACHEN.DE>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 11:28 PM
Subject: email from PC to 200lx ?


> Hi All,
>
> how can i read/synchronize my email from PC(Eudora) to HP 200lx? need i
> like a IntelliSync (like a palm etc)?
>
> many thanks!
>
> edy
>
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Date:         Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:37:10 +0100
Reply-To:     Michael Lennartz <lennartz-mi@GMX.NET>
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From:         Michael Lennartz <lennartz-mi@GMX.NET>
Subject:      Re: email and tcpip
In-Reply-To:  <000b01c1758c$b59cade0$6401a8c0@thispest>
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Hallo all,

I sometimes tried to download Goin' Postal, but the link is dead.
Seems, that there is no way to get it. Any ideas?


Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
lennartz-mi@gmx.net
Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57


----- Original Message -----
I am a long time user of Goin'Postal, which is free, easy to use
and very reliable; a bit hard to get working on some GSM's.
I seem to remember that Post/LX offers more in this regard: SMs,
address book, I think.

GP (on Super) lets you have access to multiple providers, and
mailboses, send and receive attachments.

Etienne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jasper de Jong" <djdjo000@WXS.NL>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 12:54 PM
Subject: email and tcpip


| Hi!
|
| I've been on this list for a week or so now and I guess a lot
of people
| are actually using their 200 to read their mail.
| I'm going abroad for a few months and I'm thinking about
turning my 200
| into an email-reader/writer.
| What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to
buy the D&A
| packet unfortunately...
|
| thanks
| jasper
|
| --
| djdjo000@wxs.nl
| http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural
|
| Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298
|
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|
|

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Date:         Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:41:57 +0100
Reply-To:     Etienne Lemaire <stelem@attglobal.net>
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From:         Etienne Lemaire <etienne.lemaire@PANDORA.BE>
Subject:      Re: email and tcpip
Comments: To: Michael Lennartz <lennartz-mi@GMX.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

SUPER, of course. But otherwise, drop me a line and I'll send it

Etienne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Lennartz" <lennartz-mi@GMX.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 02:37 PM
Subject: Re: email and tcpip


Hallo all,

I sometimes tried to download Goin' Postal, but the link is
dead.
Seems, that there is no way to get it. Any ideas?


Mit freundlichem Gru_ / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
lennartz-mi@gmx.net
Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57


----- Original Message -----
I am a long time user of Goin'Postal, which is free, easy to use
and very reliable; a bit hard to get working on some GSM's.
I seem to remember that Post/LX offers more in this regard: SMs,
address book, I think.

GP (on Super) lets you have access to multiple providers, and
mailboses, send and receive attachments.

Etienne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jasper de Jong" <djdjo000@WXS.NL>
To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 12:54 PM
Subject: email and tcpip


| Hi!
|
| I've been on this list for a week or so now and I guess a lot
of people
| are actually using their 200 to read their mail.
| I'm going abroad for a few months and I'm thinking about
turning my 200
| into an email-reader/writer.
| What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to
buy the D&A
| packet unfortunately...
|
| thanks
| jasper
|
| --
| djdjo000@wxs.nl
| http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural
|
| Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298
|
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|
|

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Date:         Sun, 25 Nov 2001 08:48:45 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: email and tcpip

Jasper de Jong writes:
> Hi!
>
> I've been on this list for a week or so now and I guess a lot of people
> are actually using their 200 to read their mail.
> I'm going abroad for a few months and I'm thinking about turning my 200
> into an email-reader/writer.
> What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to buy the D&A
> packet unfortunately...

Actually, there are several options.  I've used all of them, so have
put together a little table to summarize the characteristics:


package    cost  setup  multPOP  addr  news   www  ftp  telnet
-------    ----  -----  -------  ----  ----  ----  ---  ------
WWW/LX      yes   easy      yes  good   yes   yes  yes    yes?
Goin'Postal  no   easy      yes  good    no    no   no     no
LXTCP/PNR    no   hard      yes  weak   yes    no  yes    yes
cc:Mail      no   easy       no  okay    no    no   no     no


NOTES

Cost reflects only software.  If using cc:Mail you must dial a phone
number in California which incurs long distance phone charges.  The
cost would probably be prohibitive from abroad.

You can get telnet (and news, www, or ftp?) with GP if you track down
the extra programs.  You would use GP to establish the connection and
escape out of it to run the others.  I'm not sure how hard it is to
configure them.

WWW/LX has pretty capable filtering functions, LXTCP/PNR has only a
simple kill function.  I'm not sure about GP, but think it is somewhere
inbetween the two.

I get web access with LXTCP/PNR by opening a telnet session to a Unix
shell account and running Lynx on the remote server.  It's pretty
limited, but meets many of my needs.

DataComm is another option, if you have a dial-up account somewhere.
Of course the the same calling cost issues would exist as with cc:Mail.
You would also be managing your e-mail on another server somewhere, not
on your HPLX.


CONCLUSIONS

If you only want e-mail, I would suggest Goin' Postal.  If you want
more function I would suggest either WWW/LX ot LXTCP/PNR, whichever
works with your budget and computer prowess.

Hope this information helps.  I trust others will correct any mistakes
I've made in my presentation.

--
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Date:         Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:22:23 +0100
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Hello List,

and sorry for this second announcement: I updated the database with German
dial-in providers which you can use via mobile phone, hotel or (in
Germany) for free surfing on Sundays (like I do at the moment).

There is a possibility for subscription on the homepage, through which you
can receive update announcements.

Bye
G=FCnther

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Mike Kopplin wrote:

> Nodelay doesn't seem to have any effect on my lx. I have a
> sandisk 350mb card and use the acecard driver. Could there be a
> conflict with this, or with the T2T drivers for a DS32LX?

It must be the acecard driver, the T2T driver I'm using myself.
Probably the acecard driver is not compatible to the original
carddrv of the palmtop in terms of function dispatcher list
entries and the like.

FYI: I'm not using NODELAY, change cards to often and really
must rely on my 96MB CF content. My default drive is anyway
the fast 64MB T2T C:

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<<
package    cost  setup  multPOP  addr  news   www  ftp  telnet
-------    ----  -----  -------  ----  ----  ----  ---  ------
WWW/LX      yes   easy      yes  good   yes   yes  yes    yes?
Goin'Postal  no   easy      yes  good    no    no   no     no
LXTCP/PNR    no   hard      yes  weak   yes    no  yes    yes
cc:Mail      no   easy       no  okay    no    no   no     no
>>

I'll also add the old text-based NetTamer (available at
http://www.nettamer.net/tamer.html).

package    cost  setup  multPOP  addr  news   www  ftp  telnet
-------    ----  -----  -------  ----  ----  ----  ---  ------
NetTamer    yes   hard       no  okay   yes   yes  yes     yes
(v1.08)

I've only used the 1.08 version for palmtops (probably no longer available)
and they're now up to 1.11.2, so I don't know how the new features compare
to the old.  Lifetime registration is $35.

They have desktop and palmtop versions, but I've always just used the same
palmtop version on both machines.  Highly configurable, but definitely not
for the faint-hearted. Some supplemental shareware utilities can be had to
ease the pain.  The 1.08 web browser is pretty lame, and even tho it has
some other bells and whistles, I'll fess up that I've never had use for
anything other than simple email (with attachments) and some news groups.

The emails that you send are simple text files (prior to sending), so
editing (via my favorite vi text editor) and transferring the proto-email
from LX to desktop and back (sometimes a good note takes more than one
sitting if you're on the move) is easily done with basic file transfer.

Of the emailers listed by Ted, I've only used the built-in cc:Mail, which
you can see, lacked somewhat in flexibility.

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contradiction in terms ..
how can it be a 'stronghold'
and also 'last' .. a stronghold
is a STRONG HOLD ! so
cannot be the last ..   :-)

Nigel .. good thing .. your correction ..
it indeed should be ONE of the MANY
last strongholds .. i am also holding out
in one of the many many last strongholds
of the lx 200 ! .. in india .. also a sunny
land  :-D

.. pk , calcutta

From: "Nigel Rotherham" <nigel@KEEPSMILING.CO.ZA>
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 3:03 PM

> One of Africa's last HPLX strongholds. :-P
> as I also am a enthusiastic (albeit HP95) LX user <big
grin>!!!!

> Best regards to all from Nigel R who is also in sunny
South Africa :-)
>
> P.S. Hope no offence taken as nothing other that a SMILE
intended...

no offence taken ! :-D  .. pk

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me too ! i've been searching for GP all over ..
the few links i got didn't work ..
cud u send me one too please Etienne ?

thanks in advance

.. pk

>From: "Etienne Lemaire" <etienne.lemaire@PANDORA.BE>
>Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 7:11 PM


> SUPER, of course. But otherwise, drop me a line and I'll
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>
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unfortunately i learned edlin, debug, linker
when i picked up the dos2.11 manual ..
not knowing that it was not necessary ..
so i know a bit abt debug from 14 years
ago .. the u, d, p, commands ..

FYI, i once used it to change my boot
sector, fat area, directory area, and
simple files too .. besides using it
to understand the com files .. but it
IS a bit too technical ! no ?

..pk

tks 4 yr help :-D


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kiyoshi Akima" <k_akima@hotmail.com>
To: <pksharma@india.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 10:44 PM
Subject: debug


> DEBUG will disassemble .com files. You may need to go to a
library and find
> an old MS-DOS book to find how to use it, but it's what I
use for simple
> disassemblies.
>
> kiyoshi
>
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> <<
> package    cost  setup  multPOP  addr  news   www  ftp  telnet
> -------    ----  -----  -------  ----  ----  ----  ---  ------
> WWW/LX      yes   easy      yes  good   yes   yes  yes    yes?
> Goin'Postal  no   easy      yes  good    no    no   no     no
> LXTCP/PNR    no   hard      yes  weak   yes    no  yes    yes
> cc:Mail      no   easy       no  okay    no    no   no     no
> >>
>
> I'll also add the old text-based NetTamer (available at
> http://www.nettamer.net/tamer.html).
>
> package    cost  setup  multPOP  addr  news   www  ftp  telnet
> -------    ----  -----  -------  ----  ----  ----  ---  ------
> NetTamer    yes   hard       no  okay   yes   yes  yes     yes
> (v1.08)
>
> I've only used the 1.08 version for palmtops (probably no longer available)
> and they're now up to 1.11.2, so I don't know how the new features compare
> to the old.  Lifetime registration is $35.

And I, too, was going to remind folks of Nettamer, my first foray into
email and newsgroups and the web.  And would add a slight revision - it
can do different email addresses and accounts, if I recall right, but
NOT on the same run.  You have to dial and log to each account
separately.

I've since moved on to the much more comfortable
setup/interface/multiaccounts of WWW/POST/ETC (and I disclose I am a
beta tester).

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Is it just me, or is there some kind of weird delay with some of
the HP list messages? I'm constantly getting messages dated two
days prevously from the list, but some are current. Thanks, Bryan

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Le Sat, 24 Nov 2001 02:56:24 +0530
pksharma <pksharma@CAL=2EVSNL=2ENET=2EIN> a =E9crit:

> me too ! i've been searching for GP all over =2E=2E
> the few links i got didn't work =2E=2E
> cud u send me one too please Etienne ?

The last known link was:
     http://gfys=2Enet/gp/gp5r1=2Eexe
    =20
But, if the domain name (gfys=2Enet) seems always to be owned by Steve
Lawson (the author of GP), the site is not accessible at this time=2E

Wait a few days=2E=2E=2E


Jacques=2E

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Bryan Biggers wrote:
> Is it just me, or is there some kind of weird delay with some of
> the HP list messages? I'm constantly getting messages dated two
> days prevously from the list, but some are current. Thanks, Bryan

Interesting question.  I currently have 19 posts in my LX List
folder with the following dates (as shown by Alt-D in Post/LX).

11/23 -  1
11/24 -  3
11/25 - 14
11/26 -  1 ...good trick, it's now 11/25 17:00 PST in California :-)

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Hi
Walgreens batts (a jap brand) are good
value and give 25+ hrs.  The new NMh
giving 18oo mah is good value too.

yor pal al...............

--- Stanley Dobrowski <stan.hplx@VERIZON.NET>
wrote:
> I used to be a BIG fan of rechargeables until I
> got a new 200LX
> with double speed and the 32MB upgrade.  Since
> then, the NiMH's
> just don't give me enough time between charges.


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> -----Original Message-----
> Date:    Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:11:50 +0100
> From:    "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
> Subject: low cost Sandisk Flash cards in Europe?

> does someone know if there are 220 MB Sandisk flashcards available
> in Europe at prices mentioned on the list recently?
> The auctions at ebay were only shipping to U.S.

I was quite excited to discover that my local, tiny camera shop is
selling SanDisk 128MB CF cards for =A389 (something like $125 depending =
on
ROE). This is _really_ cheap for this part of the world - UK. This was
in Lincoln, a sort of sleepy backwater where time stood still. Probably
cheap because nobody knows what they're for - yet ;-)

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sponsor@ftel.net writes:

> http://www.dasoft.com/filelist.htm#telnet.zip
>
> I think the list can also take NetTamer with similar attributes to WWW/LX.

Thanks for the confirmation on telnet, Avi.  Also for the reminders
on Net-Tamer, Avi and Longden.  When I started writing the summary
I intended to include Net-Tamer, but somehow I forgot.

The question gets asked enough here that I thought I'd make a table
that could be reused.  With Longden's permision I'd like to include
some of his notes next time it comes up.

--
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hi all,

can you also receive these hplx news messages via a compuserve forum with the
programm ACCIS?

bye
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Hi list,

I want to do some experiments with a Compac GSM Radio PC
Card. I was able to obtain this card as second hand. This
dubble sized PC Card is able to cummunicate under DOS.
However, the HP200LX slot is too small.

I am looking for a extender solution. Also interested to
learn for a work around from USB to PC-Card interface if
known.

Many thanks

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Gottfried Burckhardt wrote:

> >>This is insufficient, because a card with the same number can
> have modified FAT and directory entries. The card was possibly
> in your notebook in the meantime, and you copied to the card.<<
>
> good point. Hmm. So we need a second indicator. Any writing to the card
> results in rewriting the FAT, but for sure not the whole one.

I think, if a bullet proved solution existed, one would not
have invented the "media changed" event in device drivers
for disks.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:57:27 -0500
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I couldnot find the GP either. Could you please send me the software to
bing@engga.uwo.ca
Thank you.
Bing

On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Etienne Lemaire wrote:

> SUPER, of course. But otherwise, drop me a line and I'll send it
>
> Etienne
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Lennartz" <lennartz-mi@GMX.NET>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 02:37 PM
> Subject: Re: email and tcpip
>
>
> Hallo all,
>
> I sometimes tried to download Goin' Postal, but the link is
> dead.
> Seems, that there is no way to get it. Any ideas?
>
>
> Mit freundlichem Gru_ / Regards / Saluton
>
> Michael Lennartz
> lennartz-mi@gmx.net
> Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> I am a long time user of Goin'Postal, which is free, easy to use
> and very reliable; a bit hard to get working on some GSM's.
> I seem to remember that Post/LX offers more in this regard: SMs,
> address book, I think.
>
> GP (on Super) lets you have access to multiple providers, and
> mailboses, send and receive attachments.
>
> Etienne
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jasper de Jong" <djdjo000@WXS.NL>
> To: <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 12:54 PM
> Subject: email and tcpip
>
>
> | Hi!
> |
> | I've been on this list for a week or so now and I guess a lot
> of people
> | are actually using their 200 to read their mail.
> | I'm going abroad for a few months and I'm thinking about
> turning my 200
> | into an email-reader/writer.
> | What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to
> buy the D&A
> | packet unfortunately...
> |
> | thanks
> | jasper
> |
> | --
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My first impressions of the HP (95LX) was during university studies (civil
engineering) when I had a Sharp Basic programmable calculator, and I saw
some lucky guy with this thing that could run DOS programs. Well, true as
Bob eight years later I could afford my own, (a 700LX and a 200LX), and the
little thing still amazes me. That's why I will continue to tinker with the
HP until I die (or it or my eyesight dies).


> Just a minute Donald!  Would actually prefer you to revise your signature
line
> from
>
> "Donald Klopper
> Africa's last HPLX stronghold. :-P"
>
> to:
>
> Donald Klopper
> One of Africa's last HPLX strongholds. :-P
>                                              
>
> as I also am a enthusiastic (albeit HP95) LX user <big grin>!!!!
>

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The email account I use to archive the HPLX-L posts was
automatically unsubscribed in October, and I did not catch this
until early this month. As a result, I am missing most of the
posts from October 7 to November 7.

Does anyone have these posts saved? The raw email messages would
work best but I can also use the digests.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:03:19 -0500
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Subject:      Re: email and tcpip
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Richard,

Thanks for the heads-up. It was meant for Jasper who was looking for ways to use email on the Palmtop. Hmmmm... I hope he=
 reads this because I do not have his email address now. If he reads it, then please write to me in person, and tell me w=
hat you do (I mean Jasper) - and if Jasper does what I think he does, I may have some sort of help in solving his problem=
 in obtaining D&A's WWW/LX... There, less cryptic. I can see why you thought it was cryptic <g> Thank you again...

Avi D&A



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From: Richard E. McEvoy remce@gofree.indigo.ie
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 20:23:39 -0000
To: sponsor@ftel.net
Subject: Re:      Re: email and tcpip


Avi,

It seems this (cryptic) message came to me by mistake. I'm mentioning this
in case it causes complications or embarrassment elsewhere :)

Richard

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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: email and tcpip


Write to me in private at info@dasoft.com about what you do and what the
trip you plan is all about. If my guess is right, maybe something can be
done <G>...

Avi

<< What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to buy the D&A
packet unfortunately... >>


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> 11/26 -  1 ...good trick, it's now 11/25 17:00 PST in California :-)

Nah! There are timezones outside California, really! Some of them even ahead of California, say Arizona, New York, New Ze=
aland <G>... We californian pride ourselves on being the center of the universe, the most advanced and all that, but the =
fact is there are people who trick us out of that distinction by living in places like Wellington NZ which are almost alw=
ays tomorrow! <G>

 Best Regards,

  Avi

  A california, ahead of California by 2 hours
  in just-began-to-be-snowy Minnesota!


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Hi Ted,

<< When I started writing the summary I intended to include Net-Tamer, but somehow I forgot. >>

Senior moment! <G> We are all here to help those in senior monets <VBG>

<< The question gets asked enough here that I thought I'd make a table
that could be reused. >>

Yes, it was a good piece of compact information. We seem to specialize in certain items we answer over and over. Kinda fu=
n. Reminds me of the people who lived outside the established society in the movie Fahrenheit 451. Each was assigned a sp=
ecific book to learn by heart so it is not lost in a society that burned written words <VBG>

   Avi D&A


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It will not show up in a Compuserve forum, but you can signup to the list and give your compuserve email address, then pi=
ck up the email with acCIS.

<< can you also receive these hplx news messages via a compuserve forum with the programm ACCIS? >>


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Mike Kopplin wrote:
> The email account I use to archive the HPLX-L posts was
> automatically unsubscribed in October, and I did not catch this
> until early this month. As a result, I am missing most of the
> posts from October 7 to November 7.
>
> Does anyone have these posts saved? The raw email messages would
> work best but I can also use the digests.

Al should have them as he makes archives of each month's posts.

Cheers... Russ

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> > The email account I use to archive the HPLX-L posts was
> > automatically unsubscribed in October, and I did not catch this
> > until early this month. As a result, I am missing most of the
> > posts from October 7 to November 7.
> >
> > Does anyone have these posts saved? The raw email messages would
> > work best but I can also use the digests.
>
> Al should have them as he makes archives of each month's posts.

I checked with Al first. Unfortuneately, he is no longer
maintaining a digest archive.

I assumed this meant the monthly logs as well. Is that correct
Al? I could use that format also if not.

Regards,
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Date:         Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:32:13 -0500
Reply-To:     Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: ANN: MODEM V2.0
Comments: To: Martin Bergvill <hplx@BERGVILL.COM>
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There's a program at www.danlan.com. He charges $15 FOR IT. nOT SURE
HOW IT WORKS ON OTHER WINDOWS BUT IT WORKS ON MY WIN98se BOX. It makes
the MS IP stack appear to be a packet driver in a dos window. All the
LX apps that use packet driver should work with it (www/lx, post/lx,
WatTCP stuff, etc.).


BTW: I wasn't shouting. My caps key was stuck and I'm too lazy to edit
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.eduOn
> Behalf Of
> Martin Bergvill
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 1:39 AM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: Re: ANN: MODEM V2.0
>
>
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:07:30 +0100, Juan Belmonte Moreno wrote:
>
> >  Sorry, I could be wrong. But I think that the one which
> you need is to
> >  install a proxy program in your desktop. (Or Internet
> Connection Sharing
> >  from Win98SE itself)
>
> I run Win2000Pro on the main computer which is connected to the
> internet. Then I have Win98SE on the other desktop computer
> and laptop
> computer. I can surf on the laptop through the network
> connection. So
> the IS is already working.
>
> >  It allows you to do Intenet on every computer connected
> to your home LAN
> >  through your desktop dial-up Internet connection. If you
> use xDSL or cable
> >  it may be more difficult.
> >
> >  I expect that this is you useful.
>
> I do that already, but how to get WWW/LX to "see" the
> connection which
> is already there.
>
> I will try some more when I get the time, but I am sure
> that somebody
> wrote here at the list about some utility which he installed on the
> Winxx machine which made WWW/LX "see" the connection which
> was already
> there. I will have a look at the archives.
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway
>
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Date:         Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:46:55 -0800
Reply-To:     Questor Jones <questor_jones@YAHOO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: To-do's WAS Staying with the HPLX
Comments: To: Micha Klopper <micha@ICON.CO.ZA>
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HP 95/100/200LX palmtops RULE.

Someone had to say it.

8-)

--- Micha Klopper <micha@ICON.CO.ZA> wrote:
> My first impressions of the HP (95LX) was during
> university studies (civil
> engineering) when I had a Sharp Basic programmable
> calculator, and I saw
> some lucky guy with this thing that could run DOS
> programs. Well, true as
> Bob eight years later I could afford my own, (a
> 700LX and a 200LX), and the
> little thing still amazes me. That's why I will
> continue to tinker with the
> HP until I die (or it or my eyesight dies).
>


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Subject:      200LX
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Ed,

Are you still using the 200LX as your primary PDA or
have you moved on to newer models of PDAs?

Just curious since you don't seem very active on the
list and you were arguably one of the biggest 200LX
supporters.






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First of all I would like to thank the D&A Soft team for the great programs
they have produced, and for making TT/LX free. I had already evaluated TT/LX
in the past and found it very good, but too much for what I needed then.

Now I decided to give it a second chance, and I am quite happy with it.

I managed to integrate PE/PIM (which I use to track all my appointments and
to-dos) with TT/LX in a very neat way:

- I've changed the default extension of the TT/LX memo files from .MEM to
.PIM (make a backup copy of tt.exe, open it in PE, search for "MEM" without
the quotes, replace it with "PIM", and save)

- I create my TT/LX database in the same directory as the PE/PIM cur.pim
file.

With these changes in place and whenever I have an important meeting, I use
the Memo feature of TT/LX to create an automatic file 1YYMMDDx.PIM in the
PIM directory. I enter there a +a appointment entry, with info about meeting
goals and participants, and +t entries for all the action items resulting
from the meeting.

This way I can search from both TT/LX and PE/PIM for the decisions of a
meeting and track the status of all resulting tasks.

Hope this can help anyone,

Regards,
Paulo

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Date:         Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:57:43 +0000
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Mike Kopplin wrote:
> > Al should have them as he makes archives of each month's posts.
>
> I checked with Al first. Unfortuneately, he is no longer
> maintaining a digest archive.
>
> I assumed this meant the monthly logs as well. Is that correct
> Al? I could use that format also if not.

Huh? (!!!)
Al, I hope this isn't true.  Please say you'll continue building
the monthly LOGyymm.Zip archives.  I haven't saved any of the
daily posts because I assume I can get the archives later.
I have all the archive zip files thru Sept 2001.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Mon, 26 Nov 2001 22:27:13 +0000
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Mike,
If you still don't have them, I have them in digest form.  Let me know and =
I'll send them.
bob
(I've got most digests for the last 4 or so years.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:32:03 -0700
Subject: Re: Help: Lost posts in archive

I checked with Al first. Unfortuneately, he is no longer
maintaining a digest archive.

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> > > Al should have them as he makes archives of each month's posts.
> >
> > I checked with Al first. Unfortuneately, he is no longer
> > maintaining a digest archive.
> >
> > I assumed this meant the monthly logs as well. Is that correct
> > Al? I could use that format also if not.
>
> Huh? (!!!)
> Al, I hope this isn't true.  Please say you'll continue building
> the monthly LOGyymm.Zip archives.  I haven't saved any of the

Al informed me that the monthly logs are still created, and this
solves my problem for the archives.

Thanks Al,

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Date:         Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:37:15 -0700
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Bob Penick wrote:

> Mike,
> If you still don't have them, I have them in digest form.
> Let me know and I'll send them.
> bob
> (I've got most digests for the last 4 or so years.)

Thanks. I found that the monthly logs are still available so my
problem is solved. Good to know there's another archive of the
list though.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Nov 2001 23:54:48 +0100
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Hi All,

i have tried some assembly-progs on my hp,none could run 'normally'.
I've used maxdos too.maybe i need dos assembly 16-bit,but i can't find that
with IDE.

Thanks for the helps.

edy
NASM(IDE) need too big ram and more power-CPU :-(

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I'm trying to set up my project schedules using Pro/LX but am having a bit
of a problem. Having looked at the user doc I think I might be using it in
a way that I shouldn't, hence, this email :)

I have about eight projects that I want to track. Most of the projects
overlap. I might work on Project A for two days and then work on Project B
for the next three. Project A might be due on the 27th and Project B on the
15th of the following month. I don't necessarily need to track tasks for
each project, just the start and end dates.

If I put all the projects in one PIM file, I can see how much of each
project is done, but I can't use some of the Pro/LX features, like Check.

If I create a PIM for each project, I can't see the "big picture" and I
can't go back and forth between projects without closing Pro/LX and opening
it again.

So, my questions are:

1. Is there some way to open a new project PIM without closing Pro/LX?
Something like File>Open?

2. Any suggestions on how to organize my projects to get the best results,
given the above scenario?

Thanks,
Don (the Project Challenged)

PS -- Thanks to D&A for making their wonderful programs available for the LX.

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What a great system!  Thanks for sharing it with us.

Kat

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All,

 Has anyone put togather a way to use the lx with one of the folding =
keyboard that are now on the market?  I use the newton keyboard now and =
it works fine, but the folding keyboard would be handier on trips.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:57:41 -0800
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 I cannot reprint the article here yet, but I wanted everyone to know that my essay on the HP 200LX appears in the current issue of Pen Computing. "Mourning a Lost Platform," Pen Computing, pp. 80-81. Please let me know what you think.
Best regards,
Wayne



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<P>&nbsp;I cannot reprint&nbsp;the article&nbsp;here yet, but I wanted everyone to know that my essay on the HP 200LX appears in the current issue of Pen Computing. "Mourning a Lost Platform," Pen Computing, pp. 80-81. Please let me know what you think.
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Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:00:26 +1300 (NZDT)

12h52m ago ...
On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:08:26 -0500, sponsor@ftel.net wrote:

> but the fact is there are people who trick us out of that
> distinction by living in places like Wellington NZ which
> are almost alw ays tomorrow! <G>

Avi, Greetings to snowy Minnesota from Wellington, NZ :)

You explain posts from the CA's future <G>, but from the past
is harder<G>.

Those apparently from the past (judging from the Date: header)
seem to come from clients with either the local date set wrong,
or they post long after writing (and the client stores the
composition date - unusual AFAIK). Or .. there were a few with
long delays getting from the local SMTP to HPLX. But HPLX
itself seems to be prompt at resending. That implies maybe a
local routing problem.

>   A california, ahead of California by 2 hours
>   in just-began-to-be-snowy Minnesota!

Keep warm :)

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How many people on this list (or out of this list
too !) use an external keyboard ?

i understand that there are quite a few types
of keyboard which work thru the com port for
inputting into the lx .. is this correct ? or are
there only one or two types ? which is the
smallest keyboard which can be used for
all fingers typing ? and what does it cost ?



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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:23 AM
Subject: Folding Keyboard


All,

 Has anyone put togather a way to use the lx with one of the
folding keyboard that are now on the market?  I use the
newton keyboard now and it works fine, but the folding
keyboard would be handier on trips.

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:32:13 -0500, Ed Padin wrote:

> There's a program at www.danlan.com. He charges $15 FOR IT. nOT SURE
> HOW IT WORKS ON OTHER WINDOWS BUT IT WORKS ON MY WIN98se BOX. It makes
> the MS IP stack appear to be a packet driver in a dos window. All the
> LX apps that use packet driver should work with it (www/lx, post/lx,
> WatTCP stuff, etc.).
>
> BTW: I wasn't shouting. My caps key was stuck and I'm too lazy to edit

Thanks Ed I will check it out. This sounds like what I want.

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Hi,

Maybe it's no so OffTopic...

The main use of my HP200LX is C programming for ArizonaMicrochip's PIC
micrcocontroller family.

In my desktop  I have PICstartPlus (also from Microchip) but I want to use
an home made JDM programmer (also known as Ludipipo and some other aliases)
with my lovely and useful 200LX.

The standard COM84 driver for PIP-02 programmer HANGS very easily.
I don't know if it's PIP2 or driver itself, but HANGS and I need to remove
power to reboot (bye bye C: data!!)

Anyone knows what software can work on the 200LX??

Another option:
I have an public domain source code for an PIC16F84 programmer (in Pascal).
Mainly I'm using PIC 16F87x (16F84 & 16F628 also).
I can modify / recompile to my needs...
But I don't want to learn Pascal. (I don't like pascal and have no time,
sorry)
If it's being ANSI C...

(Sorry for my BAD english)

Thanks to all

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I tried Shift+Esc+ON too. Any idea? Thanks, Bulent

--- "J. Belmonte" <jbmbhs@ERESMAS.COM> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Maybe it's no so OffTopic...
>
> The main use of my HP200LX is C programming for
> ArizonaMicrochip's PIC
> micrcocontroller family.
>
> In my desktop  I have PICstartPlus (also from
> Microchip) but I want to use
> an home made JDM programmer (also known as Ludipipo
> and some other aliases)
> with my lovely and useful 200LX.
>
> The standard COM84 driver for PIP-02 programmer
> HANGS very easily.
> I don't know if it's PIP2 or driver itself, but
> HANGS and I need to remove
> power to reboot (bye bye C: data!!)
>
> Anyone knows what software can work on the 200LX??
>
> Another option:
> I have an public domain source code for an PIC16F84
> programmer (in Pascal).
> Mainly I'm using PIC 16F87x (16F84 & 16F628 also).
> I can modify / recompile to my needs...
> But I don't want to learn Pascal. (I don't like
> pascal and have no time,
> sorry)
> If it's being ANSI C...
>
> (Sorry for my BAD english)
>
> Thanks to all
>
> Juan Belmonte,
>
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I do full backups of my HP200LX DS 8MB
c:\ drive using Filer's Bacup option to my SanDisk
60MB flashdisk card.

I mark "All
directories and files", "Modified files
only" and "Overwrite existing files".

Now it stops and says: "Error Invalid
file or path name."

Any ideas?

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I had a request for the HP200LX PDF manual. It is 4MB and I
no longer have an account at mydocsonline since they are no
longer free. Does anyone know of a free web storage site for
upload? Or is there another location that I could recommend
a download of the manual?

Bob
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Edy Wijaya wrote:
> i have tried some assembly-progs on my hp,
> none could run 'normally'.  I've used maxdos
> too.maybe i need dos assembly 16-bit,but i
> can't find that with IDE.

For years assembley programmers chuckled quietly when young
programmers who were brought up with C compilers with IDEs asked
for an IDE for their assembler.  For the most part there weren't
any good ones and the ones that existed spent a lot of time in
the programmer's way.  Besides, what was the point?  With a good
assembler and editor and debugger what purpose did an ide serve?
Built in help is nice, I guess.

But this is the first time I've heard someone say an assembler
won't run on a platform because the IDE doesn't run.  I feel the
real world shifting and sliding away beneath my feet. :)

Anyway, try using Masm or Tasm or A86.  They don't have an IDE
but they run just fine on the palmtop.  And if you need built-in
help try HELPPC or the Norton Guide assembley reference.  Use a
good editor with a shell feature that swaps to disk when you go
to dos (I use qedit, now TSE Jr) and you'll find that easier to
learn and use than any ide and far more powerful.

But there is a problem.  Symbolic debuggers (the ones in IDEs
and the ones not in IDEs) fail on the 200lx.  Most lock up
regularly.  Some lock up as soon as you run them.

The solution to this is symdeb, the symbolic debugger shipped by
Microsoft with Masm 4.0.  It's kind of like debug but it's
symbolic.  It's really the foundation that Codeview was built
on.  But unlike Codeview there's no full screen interface.  It
looks like debug.

It comes with a program called mapsym that builds symbol tables
from link maps.  It can do source level debugging if you're
using C, although it's not as smooth as newer debuggers.  Still,
it works well.    I use it with TC 2.0 as well as Tasm. It will
also work pretty well with maps generated by tlink.  I usually
use Tasm and MS link.

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Today is the 20th aniversery of Bill Gates and Paul Allen naming
Microsoft.

How's that for a red letter day!  :)

Barry

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There was one called X-drive 20MB storage on
their hardware .. no charge.. only registration ..
want me to dig it up ?

..pk

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 7:16 PM

> Does anyone know of a free web storage site for
> upload? Or is there another location that I could
recommend
> a download of the manual?

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And it looks like it all happened only
yesterday !

Lucky us !

..pk

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> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:49 PM


> Today is the 20th aniversery of Bill Gates and Paul Allen
naming
> Microsoft.
>
> How's that for a red letter day!  :)
>
> Barry

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Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:58:54 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

   I thought I'd play with MochaPPP & my LX as an alternative to the
   ACCTON NIC. Does anyone have this setup? Would you share your
   config?

   aTdHvAaNnKcSe

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If you need web space, I have cable and can setup an FTP server on my own
machine.
Also I can upload to my web space. How you can send me the PDF??
 DCC-chat, email, ...

(reply in private)

Juan Belmonte


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> I had a request for the HP200LX PDF manual. It is 4MB and I
> no longer have an account at mydocsonline since they are no
> longer free. Does anyone know of a free web storage site for
> upload? Or is there another location that I could recommend
> a download of the manual?
>
> Bob

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<<  First of all I would like to thank the D&A Soft team >>

You are welcome, but I think our hard team will be taking you to task for calling us "soft team" <G>..

BTW, the business name is D&A Software <g>...

<< Now I decided to give it a second chance, and I am quite happy with it.>>

Amazing how price changes open new vistas, eh? <G>

<<  I managed to integrate PE/PIM (which I use to track all my appointments and to-dos) with TT/LX in a very neat way: >>=


Fascinating way to go... I'll post this in the Beta so that Andreas can also see it. Maybe there is something interesting=
 to do in TimeTracker/LX? I cannot promise anything (even if it is a tiny change), but we'll see.

Very creative.

Avi

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<< You explain posts from the CA's future <G>, but from the past
is harder<G>. >>

Not at all. Same context: Some servers are in California, and they simply lay back, take another sip of Dos Equis beer, a=
nd yawn, before the ypass along messages... <VBG>

<< Keep warm :) >>

You bet. It is fun.

You can see three pictures comparing the same spot in Minnesota in Sptember and the last two days, check out http://www.m=
eshar.org

Enjoy...

<< Caio  >>

I meant to ask you: What does "Caio" mean? Looks a little like the italian ciao, and even like the (US) western "yipee ai=
ee caio" or some such, but I speculate... Just curious.


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At 06:46 AM 27/11/01 -0700, you wrote:
>I had a request for the HP200LX PDF manual. It is 4MB and I
>no longer have an account at mydocsonline since they are no
>longer free. Does anyone know of a free web storage site for
>upload? Or is there another location that I could recommend
>a download of the manual?
>
>Bob

Hi all

I've posted this b4 but for those that need it, The 200LX Manual 4MB PDF
converts to 180k zip file in TXT format (Unzipped is 603k). I keep this zip
file on my LX for easy fast searchable reference. Its the same as PDF
without the screen shots, ie has all the info we need.

I get a lot of emails so if you want it please email me with HPLXMAN in the
subject line and I'll send.

If anyone finds storage online I'll upload for web based solution yet there
has been mumblings about copyright of this manual.

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I went to check it out. First 15 days is free, after that
its $4.95 USD/mo.

Bob

pksharma wrote:
>
> There was one called X-drive 20MB storage on
> their hardware .. no charge.. only registration ..
> want me to dig it up ?
>
> ..pk
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 7:16 PM
>
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> > upload? Or is there another location that I could
> recommend
> > a download of the manual?
>
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How unfortunate ! X-Drive has to be xxx'd out !

..pk


From: "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@union-tel.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:16 PM


> I went to check it out. First 15 days is free, after that
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Wed, 28 Nov 2001 06:58:20 +1300 (NZDT)

01h19m18s ago ...
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:39:02 -0500, sponsor@ftel.net wrote:

> << Caio  >>
>
> I meant to ask you: What does "Caio" mean? Looks a little
> like the italian ciao, and even like the (US) western "yipee
> ai ee caio" or some such, but I speculate... Just curious.

Thanks for that correction Avi! It was an unintended mispelling
of Ciao!!!!!

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Hi friends,

thanks for your feedback regarding your interest in more LED lights. I
have decided to build one more bunch of them.

So, please place your binding orders NOW (to my private address, of
course).

I'll accept orders until Saturday, December 8th 2001

For details about the light see http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight


Conditions are:
One light costs 35 US$. (thirtyfive US-Dollars)
I ship to anywhere in the world.
Shipping costs for one light to
-> Europe: 3 EURO
-> Anywhere else: 6 US$
(These shipping costs are only for simple letters with sufficient
packaging around the light to prevent damage. If you want a registered
letter with assurance or any other shipping method, prices will
probably grow a lot! I will not be responsible if a letter doesn't
arrive, except it is a registered letter).
For orders of more than one light, shipping costs may be slightly
higher, but never more than 8 US$ for a not registered letter.

I accept Paypal (indirect payment via credit card, prefered method),
paybox (via mobile phone), Western Union and cheque.
If you plan to pay with cheque and you order more than one light, I
have to ask you to send me ONE CHEQUE PER LIGHT, because I have to pay
horrible fees if one cheque is beyond the value of 100 DM.

If you sign up with Paypal, please do me a favour and use this link:
https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=HBF4ZT2XMWHVC
I'll get a little reward for that. ;-) This could even make your light
a little bit cheaper!
Paypal is really the easiest and cheapest of all methods, and for all of us
the most convenient one. Noone doesn't have to mess around with unnecessary
fees, it is fast, secure, and Paypal really seems to be a very reliable
and serious service, since they already have millions of happy
customers (this is my real opinion, no ad).

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:53:48 +0100
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Hoi,

27.11.2001, 19:52, I wrote:

> There is a possibility for subscription on the homepage, through which you
> can receive update announcements.

...and this homepage is http://www.guenther-eisele.de/ortstarif/

Bye
G=FCnther

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Date:         Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:55:18 -0500
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I played with it for a while. I tried using it with nettamer.
Unfortunately, nettamer will not do straight PPP. It needs to talk to
a modem. I was able to fake it out by 'pretending' to be a modem using
windows terminal and typing out 'connect 14,400' then switching to
mochappp. It worked well. I'm sure you can get www/lx working without
having to do this. You may have to use a really dumbed down login
script.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.eduOn
> Behalf Of Al
> Kind
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 10:00 AM
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> Subject: MochaPPP & WWW/LX
>
>
> Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:58:54 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hi All:
>
>    I thought I'd play with MochaPPP & my LX as an alternative to the
>    ACCTON NIC. Does anyone have this setup? Would you share your
>    config?
>
>    aTdHvAaNnKcSe
>
>    Cheers...AJKind
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Date:         Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:17:44 +0200
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Hi Harry,

I have deleted your mail, so I don't know your email address.
Please contact me privately.

I have a surprise for you. ;-)

GTX
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Date:         Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:33:22 +0200
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Hi friends,

I forgot to say that it will take some time until the lights are ready!
Probably several weeks. I have just begun to prepare the circuit
boards, I have yet to order the LEDs. They are not easy to get, and I
have to wait until Saturday next week to see how much I need.

On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:16:52 +0200, Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

> https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=HBF4ZT2XMWHVC

Regarding this link, it is only relevant if you are not yet signed up
with paypal.
You can then use it to sign up. The link will automatically fill out
the "Referral ID" of the person "who referred you" (i.e., my ID in this
case). I will get five dollars then for each new member. I thought we
could share this little gift, so if you make them give me 5 US$,
you can pay me 2.50 $ less for the lights.

Simply use that link above (it works - someone reported it to cause an
error, but for me it seems to work fine) and then click on "Sign Up
Now!".

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:54:17 -0800
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What would you advise as a service:for missing lines,
broken hinge, old keyboard, broken battery cover...
And what would be the cost?


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Date:         Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:17:19 -0500
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Hi Stefan,

On the Palrun issue.

Space on the web site is not an issue.

Confusing people with 4 programs, that is an issue.

I am not aware of _any_ PAL8086 programs. Are there any?

So what remains is this: Will Palrun run on 8086 machines?

I think your question is good: How many people have a need to
run Palrun on 8086 machine. If it is a significant number,
perhaps it makes sense to make it. What is "a significant
number"? I leave that to you to decide, you do the work.

What I would do is actually leave Palrun as a 80186 program,
targeted for 80186 and up.

Then make a separate set with a slightly different name, maybe
PALRUN86 or something. IOW leave the "classic" name to point
to what it always did, including any changes to it. And the
"new" product, or off-shoot, give it a new name. Docs in each
should cross point. MiniPal should maybe follow same naming
convention, what do you think?

This will probably satisfy those in need, and tend to remove
comnfusion.

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Date:         Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:17:24 -0500
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Larry,

> Pretty good deal!  A lot better than what I WAS paying - I won't do =
that again soon.

Glad to help. See if you can find the other source too,
Longden Loo posted both links, I think, or was it Bob? Good
luck.

  Avi M.

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Date:         Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:17:29 -0500
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              1000mAh,Ni-Cd?
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> 16 hours charge time, 4 to 6 hours stall time probably 5, the peak =
voltage can be
> ignored.

Don't ignore that, and instead put 2.95V. This is not such
good advice. ABC/LX will stop charging when one of the
conditions is reached. If you set the peak voltage to an
admittedly unreasonable - but possible 2.35V - you will not be
able to put much into the battery.

> Start charging at 2.32 volts or less.

Not good. Start charging at 2.50V, because it leaves you with
some buffer time in case you need to yank the Palmtop to go
somewhere and use it for an hour. Starting at 2.32V leaves you
right on the edge. Not so good!


> The thing about
> Ni-Cads is they really need to be fully discharged before recharging to
> consistantly get a good charge.


That is true only every now and then, not effective or useful
to do EACH recharge cycle. In any case, once every 10 cycles,
take your NiCd out of the palmtop and discharge it completely
either in a professional device, or just put it to work in a
clock or someother device.

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Date:         Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:17:33 -0500
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Hi Stefan,

Just wondering: The previous attempts to partition the A:
drives on Palmtop seem to have all failed because the Palmtop
regrded the drive a removable.

> card has changed. I only had to change it to "card not changed"

Now it seems maybe you have made the Palmtop think the drive
is fixed. Maybe it would be willing to partition A: drive now?

Thank you for the program!

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Date:         Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:23:17 -0500
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Telephone: 641-472-6330             800-373-6114
Fax: 641-472-1879

Postal address:
Thaddeus Computing, Inc
110 N Court
Fairfield, Iowa 52556 USA

http://www.palmtoppaper.com

They have a flat rate for repairs and provide excellent work. I've been
dealing with them for a few years now and found them to be among the best!



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393
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Date:         Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:32:31 -0500
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Check out these folks.

Postal address:
Thaddeus Computing, Inc
110 N Court
Fairfield, Iowa 52556 USA

Telephone: 641-472-6330             800-373-6114
Fax: 641-472-1879

http://www.thaddeus.com/

http://www.palmtoppaper.com

They have a flat rate for repairs and provide excellent work. I've been
dealing with them for a few years now and found them to be among the best!



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Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992
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Date:         Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:20:54 -0500
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---- Original Message -----
> So what remains is this: Will Palrun run on 8086 machines?

FWIW, I am running MMLX on a Poqet Plus (NEC V30 CPU) with Palrun.   The
only problem I notice is that very large maps which run off the screen
appear on the opposite side for some reason.
By way of comparison, Flexpad will not run on that machine.

0.02

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Date:         Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:32:49 -0600
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> > 16 hours charge time, 4 to 6 hours stall time probably 5, the peak voltage can be
> > ignored.
>
> Don't ignore that, and instead put 2.95V. This is not such
> good advice. ABC/LX will stop charging when one of the
> conditions is reached. If you set the peak voltage to an
> admittedly unreasonable - but possible 2.35V - you will not be
> able to put much into the battery.

Actually trying to set a maximum voltage to stop charging will under
charge the batteries. Set the peak voltage to something the batteries
will never reach like 3.3 volts.

>
> > Start charging at 2.32 volts or less.
>
> Not good. Start charging at 2.50V, because it leaves you with
> some buffer time in case you need to yank the Palmtop to go
> somewhere and use it for an hour. Starting at 2.32V leaves you
> right on the edge. Not so good!

If a person keeps charging Ni-Cads before they are fully discharged
he will ruin the batteries. Setting such a high voltage to recharge is
just not very smart. If a person needs to charge sooner occaisionally he can
simply go to setup in system manager and enable charging.

>
> > The thing about
> > Ni-Cads is they really need to be fully discharged before recharging to
> > consistantly get a good charge.
>
> That is true only every now and then, not effective or useful
> to do EACH recharge cycle. In any case, once every 10 cycles,
> take your NiCd out of the palmtop and discharge it completely
> either in a professional device, or just put it to work in a
> clock or someother device.

This is wrong. This is what you do to revitalize NiMH and it doesn't
work very well. A person doesn't
have to do it even with NiMH if they properly discharge and recharge
their batteries every cycle.

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sponsor@ftel.net wrote:
> I meant to ask you: What does "Caio" mean? Looks a little like the italian ciao, and even like the (US) western "yipee ai
> ee caio" or some such, but I speculate... Just curious.

Ciao - pronounced "chow".

It's Italian.  It's one of the words that can be used for both
greeting and farewell.  A similar sort of word is the Hawaiian
"Aloha".

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Lillebjorn Nilsen wrote:
> I do full backups of my HP200LX DS 8MB
> c:\ drive using Filer's Bacup option to my SanDisk
> 60MB flashdisk card.
>
> I mark "All
> directories and files", "Modified files
> only" and "Overwrite existing files".
>
> Now it stops and says: "Error Invalid
> file or path name."
> Any ideas?

Do a "chkdsk /f" on the drive, you may have some corruption that
is causing the backup copy process to fail.  If that doesn't fix
it then do "dir c:\*.* /s/b >a.a".  This will create a file
called "a.a" that will list all the non-hidden filenames.  View
that file looking for odd filenames.  It is possible to create
files with invalid filenames that other commands can't deal
with.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:25:14 +0200
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Hi Robert,

On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:46:35 -0700, "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM> wrote:

> I had a request for the HP200LX PDF manual. It is 4MB and I
> no longer have an account at mydocsonline since they are no
> longer free. Does anyone know of a free web storage site for
> upload? Or is there another location that I could recommend
> a download of the manual?

Send it to me at omnibook(AT)daniel-hertrich(DOT)de and I'll upload it
on my home page.

Hoe about legality issues?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:43:18 -0500
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Tony Hutchins writes:

> or they post long after writing (and the client stores the
> composition date - unusual AFAIK).

I'm pretty sure the Palmtop News Reader (PNR) bases the Date: header on
the time of composition.

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ok, fess up, who outbid me on the latest Accton card on EBAY? I was away
from my terminal and lost track of time (it WAS work...) and I did not get
to bid over on it!!! bummed!

KeithG

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Hello all;

I have a Targus Model CH100 belt-clip carrying case for my
200LX, but it's getting worn out and I think it's time to
replace it. It appears that Targus no longer makes this case.
Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas? Manufacturers and
model numbers would be helpful. Thanks.

Richard Smith

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I was reading that the Accton card 2216-1 was sold as a market brand through
CompUsa-type places. Is there any further information on what, specifically
these are? Any hints? I am looking for one and thought I had one until I was
out bid.

Thanks,

Keith Grider

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Richard,

I recommend Ripoffs Model CO-29 for the 200LX. It fits the
palmtop well, but the stitching around the clip could be better.

www.holster-depot.com/shoppro/electronics1.html

Dale Batson

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From: Richard and Patti Smith mailto:seronac@FREEPORT.COM
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:00 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: New belt case

Hello all;

I have a Targus Model CH100 belt-clip carrying case for my
200LX, but it's getting worn out and I think it's time to
replace it. It appears that Targus no longer makes this case.
Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas? Manufacturers and
model numbers would be helpful. Thanks.

Richard Smith

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> Senior moment! <G> We are all here to help those in senior monets <VBG>

I like both senior Monets and well as early Monets!

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> There's a program at www.danlan.com. He charges $15 FOR IT. nOT SURE
> HOW IT WORKS ON OTHER WINDOWS BUT IT WORKS ON MY WIN98se BOX. It makes
> the MS IP stack appear to be a packet driver in a dos window. All the
> LX apps that use packet driver should work with it (www/lx, post/lx,
> WatTCP stuff, etc.).

I think I visited the site the last time you posted but (my senior
moment or more likely HOUR) I could not quite fathom what programs I
would need and had not the least idea about how to set it up!  I've
Win98, too.  But then I don't know much about networking or dun-ing.

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Hi Domingo

On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:20:54 -0500, Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK> wrote:

> FWIW, I am running MMLX on a Poqet Plus (NEC V30 CPU) with Palrun.   The
> only problem I notice is that very large maps which run off the screen
> appear on the opposite side for some reason.
> By way of comparison, Flexpad will not run on that machine.
>

I have also seen that behaviour of MM/LX under Palrun.
Not on a NEC V30, but on a Pentium 166 ;-)

Avi, Stefan, is this an issue of Palrun, or of MM/LX?

GTX
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Hi friends,

sorry for this off-topic, but I have to ask the experts. ;-)

I have a "Personal account" at Paypal. Now that I'm selling the LED
lights it's the first time for me to receive money there.
Well, I have received two payments yesterday: One without any problem.
I have the money now on my Paypal account.
The other one resulted in a message from Paypal which you see excertps
from below. They want me to upgrade to a Premium account, which I have
to pay fees for when receiving money. So why should I do this?

They say, the person has done a credit card payment, and I can only
accept this with the premium account.

But aren't all payments via paypal credit card payments?

What may be the difference between this first payment and the second
one? The Paypal website couldn't enlighten me.

So, LED light buyers, pease don't pay yet, I have to make this clear
first.
But note that signing up and _paying_ is always free, regardless how
you do it!

Thanks
daniel

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Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:28:30 -0800
From: service@paypal.com
To: daniel.hertrich@gmx.de
Subject: Upgrade your account to accept the credit card payments

You have received a credit card payment. However, to reduce credit card
processing costs for accounts that do not pay fees, the ability to receive
credit card payments is limited to Premier and Business accounts.

If you upgrade to a Premier account, all your pending credit card payments
will immediately be completed.  With your upgraded account you will receive
a range of premium features in addition to the ability to accept unlimited
credit card payments.  And the fees on incoming payments are low -- just
2.9% + $0.30 to receive payments. For more details, go to
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/fees-outside.)

If you would like to keep your Personal account, you may login and deny
this payment. Personal asccounts may still accept payments funded with a
bank account or PayPal balance at no charge.

To learn more about PayPal's Credit Card Receiving Policy, please go to
https://www.paypal.com/udp/id=LJeMokWOtO1eIdbBatMzpz8MvpX-LYXLQHSMdA.

Thank you for using PayPal!

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Date:         Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:17:56 +1300
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Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:52:04 +1300 (NZDT)

03h47m27s ago ...
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:04:37 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> But aren't all payments via paypal credit card payments?

Only if the sender has zero money in their paypal account when
they send. If I have $100 in my paypal account and send $50
then it is "funded by" my paypal account. If I sent $200 then
$100 comes from my paypal account and the other $100 from
elsewhere - this "elsewhere" can be either a credit card or a
bank account. But I think only US "paypals" can use a bank
account in this way.

> What may be the difference between this first payment and
> the second one? The Paypal website couldn't enlighten me.

Maybe the first came from a "paypal-wealthy" person<G> They
already had sufficient funds in the paypal system.

The second came from a pauper with no paypal dollars, just a
credit card - and paypal now demands their 2.9% + $0.30 the
first time any credit card transaction gets into their system.
They never charge the sender - only the receiver. Their
"system" can only do this for premiere accounts - I think it
must be fairly new that they have this requirement.

I could be wrong of course.

Maybe upgrade to Premiere so you can accept credit card
payments but tell folk paying by credit card to send

(X + .3) / .971

For example instead of $35 this comes to $36.36

( about 4% extra)

For $70 it comes to $72.40, an extra 3.4%.

Oh no that's no good because it seems like it is not free to
send.

But as you say, if the credit card option increases the sale
volume then it's good for the venture.

Just my 2c <G>

ciao, Tony

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>
>  /"\  ASCII Ribbon Campaign
>  \ /
>   X         No HTML in
>  / \       email & news
>

Interesting campaign I saw in a tag line on rec.guns.
I think it should apply in email lists too.  (hint hint)

Cheers... Russ   :-)

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Date:         Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:29:39 +0200
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Hi friends,

I'm cleaning out stuff which I don't need anymore to prepare myself for
the arrival of a cute 32MB DS machine! 8-)

So I sell my rarely used 200LX 3MB Single speed backup palmtop on ebay,
auction number 1303394605.

Shipping to Europe only.


GTX
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Avi wrote:

> I am not aware of _any_ PAL8086 programs. Are there any?

I don't think so.

> So what remains is this: Will Palrun run on 8086 machines?

no

> I think your question is good: How many people have a need to
> run Palrun on 8086 machine. If it is a significant number,
> perhaps it makes sense to make it. What is "a significant
> number"? I leave that to you to decide, you do the work.

until today nobody from the list said, yes, I use Palrun on a
8086 processor. So I compiled for >=3D80186.

Let's see what happens.

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Domingo wrote:

> FWIW, I am running MMLX on a Poqet Plus (NEC V30 CPU) with Palrun.   =
The

do you know if V30 is 80186 compatible (i.e. supports PUSHA
and POPA opcodes)?

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Avi wrote:

> Now it seems maybe you have made the Palmtop think the drive
> is fixed. Maybe it would be willing to partition A: drive now?

very good idea. I don't know, if this side effect exists and I
don't want to experiment with my single 96mb card.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:52:21 +0200
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Sorry, folks, I have to modify my offer:

I now know that I definitely won't make more than 16 LED lights.
8 of them are already ordered.

So if you are interested, don't wait until Saturday next week, but
please order as soon as possible, after I have the order for the 16th
light, I will stop to accept orders.

I think the lights will be ready to ship in about 3-4 weeks.

Regarding payment via Paypal:

It seems that if you pay using your "virtual money" on you paypal
account or via direct bank debit by paypal, I won't have any problem.

I only had to upgrade my Paypal account to a non-free one, if you try
to pay via credit card. So, please, if possible in any way, please use
bank debit and not your credit card.

If you have to use your credit card for whatever reason, I'll upgrade
my account. But I will do that AFTER I have received all other
non-credit-card payments, because I will be charged ~3% for each
payment once the account is upgraded.

So if you want to order a LED light, please tell me how you plan to pay
- but don't do so yet! I'll ask you to pay when it's time for that!

I hope everything is clear now, if not, please ask! ;-)

Thanks

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Date:         Wed, 28 Nov 2001 06:37:47 -0700
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Hi Keith,

I was one of those who outbid you, but I got outbid myself. There have been
a few EN2216's up recently, though, so more should pop up. I might have a
line on a few. If it works out, I'll let you know in a week or so.

Cheers,
Bob Feldman
(a.k.a. InkaDinka100)

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Subject: Accton card on EBAY


ok, fess up, who outbid me on the latest Accton card on EBAY? I was away
from my terminal and lost track of time (it WAS work...) and I did not get
to bid over on it!!! bummed!

KeithG

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The recent thread on charging NiCads has been interesting. Some people have
mentioned that they charge NiMH cells in the palmtop. What are the settings
for them? Also, I know that the same charger can be used for both NiCads and
NiMH, but aren't there some differences? Are there any reasons _NOT_ to
charge NiMH cells in the 200LX?

TIA,
Bob Feldman

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Date:         Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:47:46 -0500
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Robert,

Thanks for the response. I recently got DSL at home and at work and want to
move teh hp to a hews/email machine for some stuff. The ethernet would be
very helpful. Let me know if you learn anything on a line. I could've
'bought it' for 26.95, but got greedy. I did not realize that there were
more out there that wanted one as well.

Keith

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> Hi Keith,
>
> I was one of those who outbid you, but I got outbid myself. There have
been
> a few EN2216's up recently, though, so more should pop up. I might have a
> line on a few. If it works out, I'll let you know in a week or so.
>
> Cheers,
> Bob Feldman
> (a.k.a. InkaDinka100)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Grider mailto:k.grider@EARTHLINK.NET
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:36 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Accton card on EBAY
>
>
> ok, fess up, who outbid me on the latest Accton card on EBAY? I was away
> from my terminal and lost track of time (it WAS work...) and I did not get
> to bid over on it!!! bummed!
>
> KeithG
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Date:         Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:51:23 -0500
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Ed,

Hi again. I have been using 1500 mAhr NiMH in my palmtop for teh past 2+
years with no problems. Just make sure that you use on of the charging
programs (I use Charg-it) and hammer them with full power for a12hrs or so
before it goes to trickle.

Keith
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> The recent thread on charging NiCads has been interesting. Some people
have
> mentioned that they charge NiMH cells in the palmtop. What are the
settings
> for them? Also, I know that the same charger can be used for both NiCads
and
> NiMH, but aren't there some differences? Are there any reasons _NOT_ to
> charge NiMH cells in the 200LX?
>
> TIA,
> Bob Feldman
>
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Hallo Daniel,

I took a look at PayPal and found the following point:

* Receive money for FREE (non-credit card payments only)

That means, that you can send money for free, but you can't get money
for free, if the sender uses a credit card. The sender should have a
paypal account with money (like Tony wrote). So I think.

Who stands behind PayPal?

Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton

Michael Lennartz
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Hi friends,

sorry for this off-topic, but I have to ask the experts. ;-)

I have a "Personal account" at Paypal.
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As I will get a digital camera in a few days, I plan to change my 64Mb
Compact Flash card to a bigger capacity (128 Mb, I think).

I seen Pretec cards at good price in the shop where I think to buy the
camera, but I would know to have some returns about speed and battery
usage for these cards on the palmtop.

Do anyone use them ?


Jacques.

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I second the recommendation for the Ripoffs case.
Here's a tip for that case:  Place some rolled-up gauze or fabric in the bottom
of the case so that it occupies the bottom 1/2-3/4" of the case.  Then, the
palmtop will stick out just a little bit at the top, making it much easier to
pull out.  The top flap will still close just fine.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@yahoo.com


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> I second the recommendation for the Ripoffs case.

I tried one of these a few years back, and couldn't stand the noise
made by the velcro upon opening.  It was most conspicuous in a room
of people if I whipped, er, ripped, out my palmtop.

-Chris Lott

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> The recent thread on charging NiCads has been interesting. Some people have

Glad you enjoyed it.

> mentioned that they charge NiMH cells in the palmtop. What are the settings
> for them? Also, I know that the same charger can be used for both NiCads and

Pretty much the same but you will have a longer charge time because
NiMH are much higher capacity.

> NiMH, but aren't there some differences? Are there any reasons _NOT_ to

The main differance is the fast charge termination when using a 1C
charge. NiMH have a much smaller dV drop and if you use a ni-cd charger
you will probably over charge NiMH. But at the 200LX trickle charge?
No.

> charge NiMH cells in the 200LX?
>
> TIA,
> Bob Feldman
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Date:         Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:35:58 +0100
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 Our next meeting is planned for Saturday, Dec 1, 14.00 in
Brussels.

If any readers of the list happen to be around, you are welcome

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From: "Stefan Peichl" <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>


> > FWIW, I am running MMLX on a Poqet Plus (NEC V30 CPU) with Palrun.   The

> do you know if V30 is 80186 compatible (i.e. supports PUSHA
> and POPA opcodes)?

From a web search, it is Intel i8086 CPU pin compatible.  This is as opposed
to the V20, which is Intel i8088 CPU pin compatible.

Most of the other 'pocket' machines are 8086 compatible.  What's so unique
about the Poqet Plus is that it has a backlight.

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              Panasonic1000mAh,Ni-Cd?
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Hi John,

> > > 16 hours charge time, 4 to 6 hours stall time probably 5, the peak
> > > voltage can be ignored.
> >
> > Don't ignore that, and instead put 2.95V. This is not such
> > good advice. ABC/LX will stop charging when one of the
> > conditions is reached. If you set the peak voltage to an
> > admittedly unreasonable - but possible 2.35V - you will not be
> > able to put much into the battery.
>
> Actually trying to set a maximum voltage to stop charging will under
> charge the batteries. Set the peak voltage to something the batteries
> will never reach like 3.3 volts.

Good! I am glad we agree that the peak voltage should not be ignored. Many NiMH batteries cannot even reach 2.95V so we a=
gree even more. I am not sure ABC/LX can take 3.3V setting anyway...

> > > Start charging at 2.32 volts or less.
> >
> > Not good. Start charging at 2.50V, because it leaves you with
> > some buffer time in case you need to yank the Palmtop to go
> > somewhere and use it for an hour. Starting at 2.32V leaves you
> > right on the edge. Not so good!
>
> If a person keeps charging Ni-Cads before they are fully discharged
> he will ruin the batteries.

I am sure this is NOT the case. Perhaps this may have been true for the older NiCd batteries and even those they changed =
the technology quite a bit so there is less crystallization.

> Setting such a high voltage to recharge is just not very smart. If a
> person needs to charge sooner occaisionally he can simply go to setup in
> system manager and enable charging.

Except that you ignore the reason why! Doing it like I suggest keeps you ALWAYS with some backup power in the batteries, =
so if you suddenly need to rush out before the batteries are fully charged you have some backup. Using your method, once =
I am done, I cannot use the machine until I built up SOME power in the batteries.

> > > The thing about
> > > Ni-Cads is they really need to be fully discharged before recharging to
> > > consistantly get a good charge.
> >
> > That is true only every now and then, not effective or useful
> > to do EACH recharge cycle. In any case, once every 10 cycles,
> > take your NiCd out of the palmtop and discharge it completely
> > either in a professional device, or just put it to work in a
> > clock or someother device.
>
> This is wrong. This is what you do to revitalize NiMH and it doesn't
> work very well. A person doesn't have to do it even with NiMH if they
> properly discharge and recharge their batteries every cycle.

IOW what you said above about discharging them to low levels is not necessary either. I agree with that assertion <G>

You an I obviously read different technical manuals about batteries and certainly different materials about their chemist=
ry and technology of packing the materials for the exchanges that occur within batteries. Still, I have no intention to t=
urn this into a religious war. I think it is the dumbest thing to do. over a 100 cycle life or 300 cycle life of recharge=
ables your cost is measured in pennies per recharge cycles. This is so small and negligible that spending much more time =
than we hve so far on this issue is pure silliness. So, Thanks for the posts., and forgive me if I no longer respond in t=
he thread - let me go take another nice picture of Minnesota Snow - it is a much better to spend the time <G> Take care, =
my friend.

Avi

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Date:         Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:32:19 -0500
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I had a 40MB Pretec card once and boy did suck. The damned thing was
really slow and after about a year it totally quit on me. I would not
recommend anything with the Pretec name on it. Don't fool around. Get
a Sandisk card. It'll be worth the extra dollars to know you're
getting good product.


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> Jacques Belin
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> Subject: Pretec CF cards ?
>
>
> As I will get a digital camera in a few days, I plan to
> change my 64Mb
> Compact Flash card to a bigger capacity (128 Mb, I think).
>
> I seen Pretec cards at good price in the shop where I think
> to buy the
> camera, but I would know to have some returns about speed
> and battery
> usage for these cards on the palmtop.
>
> Do anyone use them ?
>
>
> Jacques.
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Had a couple of systems go south so I'm getting on with a Toshiba=

Portege 7010 for the time being. Problem is I really miss using=
 Goin'
Postal for my email. The Portege has a built in modem at Com2 but=
 GP
won't recognize it since it's under the control of Win98. If I=
 put a
PCMCIA modem card in it is recognized as Com3. Anyone have the=
 DOS
Assign program that will work under Win98 so I can Assign=
 Com3:=3DCom2:
and perhaps get back to using GP? Thanks.

Bob Christopher     Littleton, Colorado USA     bob@palmtop.com


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<p>Had a couple of systems go south so I'm getting on with a=
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<br>
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<< > Now it seems maybe you have made the Palmtop think the drive
> is fixed. Maybe it would be willing to partition A: drive now?

very good idea. I don't know, if this side effect exists and I
don't want to experiment with my single 96mb card. >>

All I can say is "Very good idea!" referring of course to NOT experimenting with the only 96MB PC card you have <G>

If I wanted to try, what do I do? What is the worst outcome? How likely is that outcome? What software do you suggest to =
use to do the partition itself? How? I mean run the partition s/w on the Palmtop? On another machine? (I am limited now s=
everely because I am not at home and do not have access to my usual arsenal of software and hardware.)

It would be very exciting to break down this long-standing limitation for Palmtoppers.

All the best!

  Avi

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Date:         Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:57:11 -0500
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> I have a Targus Model CH100 belt-clip carrying case for my
> 200LX, but it's getting worn out and I think it's time to
> replace it. It appears that Targus no longer makes this case.
> Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas? Manufacturers and
> model numbers would be helpful. Thanks.
>
Take a look at Case Tech (
http://www.dxshop.com/_shop/home.mhtml?shop=casetech )

They make three or four leather belt cases for the 95/100/200LX, in soft
"executive" leather or rugged cowhide. I believe the most expensive is
CAN$60 (about USD$40). You can also add on wrist or shoulder straps, if you
like.

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--- Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com> wrote:
> I tried one of these a few years back, and couldn't stand the noise
> made by the velcro upon opening.  It was most conspicuous in a room
> of people if I whipped, er, ripped, out my palmtop.
>
I know what you mean.  Usually, I tuck the cover flap inside the case; the
palmtop will still fit.  Unless it totally flies off your belt or you do a
headstand, the palmtop should probably stay put even without the flap attached.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
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Date:         Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:59:16 +0100
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Hi Robert,

I use the 1350 mAh (or so, speaking from failing memory) NiMH from Mac for
more than 2 years. I use ABC/LX to charge them. Mac recommended me the
following settings:
Start charging at or below 2.40V
Stop fast charging at 2.97V or if voltage stalls for more than 5 hrs  or after 16 hrs
Then trickle charge for 6 hrs

I am still on the same set, charge  about 2 or 3 times a week, and many times
(50% ?) I force the charging cycle without waiting for the voltage to drop below
2.40V and most of the times the complete charging cycle is not finished, and half
of the times the cycle would be just in the trickle part
.
e.g. if I foresee a heavy use day, and voltage would be at say 2.50, I plug in the
night before and unplug in the morning, where it might be in the trickle part or
not yet. I never take them out of the 200LX to fully discharge. This does not
seem to have afected the capacity of the NiMH at all. So I think it is not that
critical. (I have a different experience with the Li-Ion cell of my mobile phones,
they seem to get worse after about a year).

Best regards,

          ...Frank LOUWERS (Belgium)...


On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:10:27 -0700, Feldman, Robert wrote:

>The recent thread on charging NiCads has been interesting. Some people have
>mentioned that they charge NiMH cells in the palmtop. What are the settings
>for them? Also, I know that the same charger can be used for both NiCads and
>NiMH, but aren't there some differences? Are there any reasons _NOT_ to
>charge NiMH cells in the 200LX?
>
>TIA,
>Bob Feldman
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I have a Sandisk 160MB CF Type II card that does not work in my NEXII MP3
Player. I also does not work in the 200lx until the acecard3 driver is
loaded. Has anyone else had this problem or can quantify the differences
between the Sandisk 160MB CF Type II  and the Sandisk 160MB CF Type I?

Also, the 220MB ATA card that I got from Silicon Salvage 2 weeks ago had a
very bad failure over the Thanksgiving weekend. I use a .bat file to backup
my critical files(appt.adb, Notes.ndb, Phone.pdb, etc. I went to run it and
got several "Path not found" errors. It seemed to occur on the first set of
copy functions after the file was dbchecked. I separated out the first
dbchecked file and ran it alone, after it aborted with a "Path not found"
error, I found bogus Large files on my A: drive (220mb Sandisk). I used
Norton to try to recover , but 2 complete directories were damaged beyond
repair. They were not even directories that I was using. I continued to try
this bat file and found that occasionally it would work, but most of the
time it would seem to mess up the FAT. Going to filer after the bat file
ran and got a  "Path not found" error, I would find bogus files and missing
directories. Norton would say there were NO errors and going to Filer after
I used Norton showed the directories and files as fine. The I just tried to
read the A:drive after the I got a  "Path not found" error, and the
directory remained bad until I powered down  for a moment. When I powered
back up, it went through it's read cycle and the disk looked fine. This
type of behavior occurred both with and without the acecard3 driver loaded.

Any suggestions?

Joe

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Date:         Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:37:57 -0600
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> I have a Sandisk 160MB CF Type II card that does not work in my NEXII MP3
> Player. I also does not work in the 200lx until the acecard3 driver is
> loaded. Has anyone else had this problem or can quantify the differences

Have a Sandisk CF 160 meg type II. Works fine in both my LXs without any
drivers.

John

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Date:         Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:51:56 -0600
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Does anyone know if such a program has been written for the 200LX or
know of a dos based one that would run on the LX? Anyone have a dos
version of Pspice 3 for sale?

John

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Tony,

> I use have the Newton Keyboard (from Thaddeus?) but it locks up occasion=
ally
> so I stopped using it.  What driver are you using?

I got mine from Thaddeus a long time ago and am using the driver that =
they provided with it.  I don't ever recall having it lock up on me - =
although I usually don't bother to pull it out of the desk drawer unless =
I am working on something large. I have a 8mb DS 200lx and I don't use =
either buddy or carousel.

Larry

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Chris,

> I've purchased one, and nearly hooked it up successfully, with a little =
help from Mack at Times2Tech.  But work projects have kept me too busy to =
complete it.<

Sounds good! Keep us posted.

Larry

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> Also, the 220MB ATA card that I got from Silicon Salvage 2 weeks ago
> had a very bad failure over the Thanksgiving weekend. I use a .bat
> file to backup my critical files(appt.adb, Notes.ndb, Phone.pdb, etc.
> I went to run it and got several "Path not found" errors. It seemed to
> occur on the first set of copy functions after the file was dbchecked.
....
> Any suggestions?

Run scandisk on the card from a notebook computer and do a full
surface scan, in addition to the normal file/directory scan, to make
sure it's OK to start with.

Maybe the card is intermittently drawing too much power?

I have the same card from Silicon Salvage and use it without the
driver .. so far without problems.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 25 Nov 2001 11:11:33 +0100
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>Don't put NODELAY in your AUTOEXEC.BAT! If you forgot to unload
>...
>It's a very dangerous utility comparable to atomic power plants: You
>feel safe as long as nothing happens. But if something happens, the
>damage is so tremendous, that you wish, the technology should have
>been never invented.

The germans again! They are closing all their nuclear reactors, because
of environmental concerns. They are going to purchase electricity from
the french. France produces more than 60% of its electricity by nuclear
powerplants. Figure that!

As a hungarian, whose nationals had significant role in the invention of
nuclear science, I feel proud of this achievement of mankind. Nuclear
powerplants are still much better than littering the seas with oil and gas
mining platforms, which often capsize, collapse and go ablaze. Not to
mention the supertankers which frequently come in too close contact
with banks, cliffs and other dangerous objects commonly found on
seashores, then leak. Somehow seals are never asked about their
preference of oil or atom.

Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

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Bob Christopher wrote:

> The Portege has a built in modem at Com2 but GP
> won't recognize it since it's under the control of Win98. If I put a
> PCMCIA modem card in it is recognized as Com3. Anyone have the DOS
> Assign program that will work under Win98 so I can Assign Com3:=3DCom2:
> and perhaps get back to using GP? Thanks.

Sounds like a candidate for my new MODEM.COM

Go to a DOS box and run MODEM. It tells you, at which comport
a modem is assigned under which base address. In your case,
most likely no modem is found.

Then run MODEM/i to initialize all comports with the default
addresses.

Now run MODEM again without switches and see, if any modem
is detected. Hopefully your built in COM2 modem should appear.
If yes, you may now use it for GP.

If this works for you, you have to do it every time you open
a DOS box, because WinXX removes the comport settings from
the bios data area, everytime you leave DOS. Make a batch file
and just put in MODEM/i.

http://peichl.hplx.net/modem.zip

I had a similar problem on my Portege 300 and solved it this way.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> I have also seen that behaviour of MM/LX under Palrun.
> Not on a NEC V30, but on a Pentium 166 ;-)
>
> Avi, Stefan, is this an issue of Palrun, or of MM/LX?

It was Palrun. Thanks to Michel Bel for informing me about
the V30, which indeed supports PUSHA and POPA.

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Hi John,

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:51:56 -0600, John Musielewicz <jmusiele@MNINTER.NET> wrote:

> Does anyone know if such a program has been written for the 200LX or
> know of a dos based one that would run on the LX? Anyone have a dos
> version of Pspice 3 for sale?

Since you refer to PSpice, I assume you mean a circuit simulator,
rather than an emulator. (As I understand, there is a big difference).
Such a program really exist, I own a license and am very satisfied with
it. Palmtop Circuit:

See
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/paci

Tamas Feher, who is asl oa list member, can probably help you if you
decide to buy this product.

GTX
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I downloaded and installed mm/lx, it is really a good software and
powerful. But it seems unable to start from application manager, and I
have to terminate all applications to run it. The worse, its editor is
PE/lx designated in mm.cfg. In fact, pe/lx is unable to run with other
application. Needless to say, I can't open the editor. Can I do sth. for
this? Or I want to change the editor to MEMO, how to designate MEMO in
mm.cfg?
Thanks.
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I've a Pretec 20 MB card that I've had for a couple years.  Works OK but
seems to use more batteries than when I keep a 20 MB Sandisk in the 200.
Also, I had lots of problems with it when I inserted it into my laptop.  The
Sandisk cards I have never give me a bit of problem.  I'd gladly pay a
little more for the Sandisk!
bob
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From: "Jacques Belin"
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 10:03 AM
Subject: Pretec CF cards ?


> I seen Pretec cards at good price in the shop where I think to buy the
> camera, but I would know to have some returns about speed and battery
> usage for these cards on the palmtop.
>
> Do anyone use them ?

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I use this every day. Its easy and nice to use to share Your LAN with
Your hp200lx via the serial port.
Part of my www.cfg looks like this:

...
Setup
PPP=PPP
...

Script
PPP=PPP
...

PPP
s=\r
Port=1
OmniGo=0
PPP=1
Modem=0
Baud=38400
My_IP=
DNS_IP=
DNS2_IP=
Script=PPP
Password=



Al Kind wrote:
> Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:58:54 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hi All:
>
>    I thought I'd play with MochaPPP & my LX as an alternative to the
>    ACCTON NIC. Does anyone have this setup? Would you share your
>    config?
>
>    aTdHvAaNnKcSe
>
>    Cheers...AJKind
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>

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> Date:    Tue, 27 Nov 2001 07:16:41 -0600
> From:    Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
> Subject: Re: Assembler for  200lx

> But this is the first time I've heard someone say an assembler
> won't run on a platform because the IDE doesn't run.  I feel the
> real world shifting and sliding away beneath my feet. :)

You've just reminded me of my neighbour who said how remarkable it was
that the proprietary e-mail system he used at work had exactly the same
"To", "CC", "BCC", etc. sections...(wait for it)...just like Microsoft
invented!

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> The recent thread on charging NiCads has been interesting. Some people =
have
> mentioned that they charge NiMH cells in the palmtop. What are the =
settings
> for them? Also, I know that the same charger can be used for both =
NiCads and
> NiMH, but aren't there some differences? Are there any reasons _NOT_ to
> charge NiMH cells in the 200LX?

I charge NiMH batteries in my 200LX all the time.  I haven't removed this =
set
of batteries in many months.  In fact, I just had to flip my palmtop over =
and
look to remember what kind they are <g>.  They are Radio Shack 1600 mAh. =
 In the
past, I have used various charge controlling programs.  Now, however, I =
have a
simple approach.  I believe that even the palmtop's "fast charge" amounts =
to a
trickle charge for batteries of this capacity.  So, I have my palmtop =
always
set to charge the batteries.  I plug it in most nights and they get =
charged all
night.  Mack's DS drive can disable the palmtop's switch from fast to =
slow
charge after six hours.  So, my batteries get a fast charge for as long =
as I
have them plugged in.

Now, on to reasons NOT to charge in the palmtop.  Charging generates =
heat.
Heat can shorten the life of electronics.  So, I am risking a shorter =
life for
my palmtop and batteries with my system.  For me, the simplicity and =
convience
are enough to outweigh this risk, but others may well decide differently.

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Le Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:04:10 -0500
Bob Penick <bnj@MYREALBOX=2ECOM> a =E9crit:

> I've a Pretec 20 MB card that I've had for a couple years=2E  Works OK but
> seems to use more batteries than when I keep a 20 MB Sandisk in the 200=2E

Thanks Bob (and Ed)=2E

Seems that I will search for another card=2E=2E=2E <g> I will check the
current prices for the Sandisk cards=2E=2E=2E

BTW, it would be intersting to mak a list of all known CF cards, with an
indication about their consumption and their speed=2E=2E=2E

My entry : The 64Mb Samsung card=2E Good speed, but I have less than 15h
of autonomy on my 1Mb DS 200LX, instead of 35h with my 8Mb Sandisk card=2E=
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AFAIK the external battery chargers are different.  Last night I found a =
new product at Sam's Club:  a brand-name charger with a switch for NiCad =
or NiMH, plus 8 NiMH high capacity batteries.  Priced right at $20.

>>> "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman@JDEDWARDS.COM> 11/28/01 09:10AM >>>
The recent thread on charging NiCads has been interesting. Some people =
have
mentioned that they charge NiMH cells in the palmtop. What are the =
settings
for them? Also, I know that the same charger can be used for both NiCads =
and
NiMH, but aren't there some differences? Are there any reasons _NOT_ to
charge NiMH cells in the 200LX?

TIA,
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I am using WordPerfect 5.1 on my hp200lx and unfortunately the language
modules for Italy are missing.

These are the files:

WP{WP}IT.LEX
WP{WP}IT.SUP
WP{WP}IT.HYD

I call Corel, the language modules are no longer available.

Could any one help out.

Kind regards

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How much memeory did you assign to mm/lx?

Kind regards

Helmuth

> I downloaded and installed mm/lx, it is really a good software and
> powerful. But it seems unable to start from application manager, and I
> have to terminate all applications to run it. The worse, its editor is
> PE/lx designated in mm.cfg. In fact, pe/lx is unable to run with other
> application. Needless to say, I can't open the editor. Can I do sth. =
for
> this? Or I want to change the editor to MEMO, how to designate MEMO in
> mm.cfg?
> Thanks.
> Bing
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Hi friends,

a short update about the LED light project II:

First the bad news: The LEDs I have used for LED light project 1 some
time ago are not available anymore. :-(

Now the good news: The company which made them has improved them and
now sells for the same price LEDs with over 20% more light intensity! I
have just bought them and tried one pair of them out: Amazing! :-) They
are really brighter than the ones which I used before.

Another good news: I have already all parts necessary to build the
lights. I have expected to get them not before 15th December.
So I will probably be able to ship in two weeks. Maybe three.

And one more good news: There are still some lights available. So you
can still place your orders.

So much for now

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Stefan Peichl wrote:

> do you know if V30 is 80186 compatible (i.e. supports PUSHA
> and POPA opcodes)?

Yes, the V20/V30 are 80188/80186 compatible.  They
also have some NEC specific instructions, and can
support 8080 opcodes.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Wellner"
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 7:42 AM
Subject: PC-Card dubble sized


> Hi list,
>
> I want to do some experiments with a Compac GSM Radio PC
> Card. I was able to obtain this card as second hand. This
> dubble sized PC Card is able to cummunicate under DOS.
> However, the HP200LX slot is too small.
>
Harry,
There is a product available called "Doubleslot" that fits in the 200LX slot
and gives you two type 2 slots or one type 3.  It also supplies the power to
the cards by an external ac adapter so the LX limit is no longer an issue.
I seem to recall that it retails for about $100 or so.  I have one that I
used to copy files from one card to another.
Wish you luck!
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Hi Steve

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:45:01 -0500, Steve Carder <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET> wrote:

> night.  Mack's DS drive can disable the palmtop's switch from fast to slow
> charge after six hours.  So, my batteries get a fast charge for as long as I
> have them plugged in.

What is the parameter for the driver to disable this switch?

Is there a recent overview of parameters for thsi driver? It seems to
be pretty powerful ;-)

GTX
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I would like to kill two birds with one stone.
  1. Bone up on Morse code while driving
  2. Listen to text files in code while driving

So, what I am looking for is a Morse code program for the LX
that will play back text files.

Niceties are at least
  1. Easily to use/read the program on the LX
  2. Adjust speed on the fly
  3. Easy to load & repeat text file
  4. Reasonable small

I have looked at about a dozen or so programs in the past.
One command line program I've found is "morse" from GHZ
Engineering, but it only goes to 25 wpm.

Do any of you hams have a favorite code text reader/practice
program for the LX?

Bob

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On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:26:12 -0800, James Grenert wrote:

>I second the recommendation for the Ripoffs case.

Yes I agree fully, very handy (and sturdy) case. I am now 2 years or so on my
second one and still have the first one which served me well for I think at least 4
or 5 years. The Velcro loops got a bit fluffy, that was the only real wear.

>Here's a tip for that case:  Place some rolled-up gauze or fabric in the bottom
>of the case so that it occupies the bottom 1/2-3/4" of the case.  Then, the
>palmtop will stick out just a little bit at the top, making it much easier to
>pull out.  The top flap will still close just fine.
>

Excellent tip. When the case is new, it _is_ a bit more difficult to grasp the top
of the machine to extract it from its case. This tip solves that, but I put a 2 spare
batteries (wrapped) in there when I was still using non rechargeable batteries.
When I switched to rechargeables I stopped that: the case had given a bit and
grasping was easier.

Best regards,

          ...Frank LOUWERS (Belgium)...

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Heeellloooo!?
Harry, are you out there?

maybe you missed my previous message, so I'll send another one:

I have a Siemens data cable for you! Please contact me privately. I
have lost your email address, so I have to mail you via the list.

GTX
daniel


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> I used Norton showed the directories and files as fine. The I just =
tried to
> read the A:drive after the I got a  "Path not found" error, and the
> directory remained bad until I powered down  for a moment. When I =
powered
> back up, it went through it's read cycle and the disk looked fine. This
> type of behavior occurred both with and without the acecard3 driver =
loaded.

Is this the only card you use, or are you swaping cards?  Do you use =
Software
Carousel version 6.x?  On my palmtop, the following can happen.  Lets say =
I
reboot with Flash Card A in the slot.  I then start up all three of my SC
sessions.  Now I swap to SC session 2 and switch to Flash Card 2.  If I
switch back to SC session 1 and try to read or write to Card 2, I will =
get
errors.  The DOS loaded in session 1 doesn't know I have swaped cards and
thinks it is still looking at Card 1.  If I turn the palmtop off and back =
on,
DOS in session 1 will re-read the card and realize it is now card 2.  Now =
I
will be able to use card 2 properly.  Perhaps this is happening to you?

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Hi

HP Sweden had no seriecable to the LX, they wanted to send for
one in US for 100 dollars!


Luckily I found one at a private dealer of HP things. He took
25 dollars.


Seems like spareparts soon will be hard to get?


Lars

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Date:         Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:09:48 -0500
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Comments: To: "Helmuth E. Guenther" <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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less than 300k, I think.
Bing
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Helmuth E. Guenther wrote:

> How much memeory did you assign to mm/lx?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Helmuth
>
> > I downloaded and installed mm/lx, it is really a good software and
> > powerful. But it seems unable to start from application manager, and I
> > have to terminate all applications to run it. The worse, its editor is
> > PE/lx designated in mm.cfg. In fact, pe/lx is unable to run with other
> > application. Needless to say, I can't open the editor. Can I do sth. for
> > this? Or I want to change the editor to MEMO, how to designate MEMO in
> > mm.cfg?
> > Thanks.
> > Bing
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Date:         Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:28:53 -0600
Reply-To:     Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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Chris Randle wrote:
> You've just reminded me of my neighbour who said
> how remarkable it was that the proprietary e-mail
> system he used at work had exactly the same
> "To", "CC", "BCC", etc. sections...(wait for it)...just
> like Microsoft invented!

You have a smart neighbor.  None of my neighbors would have made
the connection.  I guess everybody feels free to copy Microsoft.

Look at Xerox calling their machine a "copy" machine, just like
that command in Dos.

I'm sure the phrase "without form and void" was borrowed from
the look and feel of Windows.

Barry (who knows the hot rock caused the sun to rise)

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Date:         Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:26:22 -0600
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> Hi
>
> HP Sweden had no seriecable to the LX, they wanted to send for
> one in US for 100 dollars!
>
> Luckily I found one at a private dealer of HP things. He took
> 25 dollars.
>
> Seems like spareparts soon will be hard to get?
>
> Lars

The cable is fairly easy to build, if you are handy, both Digi-Key and
Mouser sell the 2mm female end along with pins. Mouser has no minimum
order. www.mouser.com or www.digikey.com. One thing I am having trouble
finding is the screws. Anyone know of a source? I think the battery
cover and the backup battery cover will be impossible to find.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:38:41 -0700
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HP Parts Direct still has the Maintenance Kit, but it is "in short supply."
I need a IR cover for my 95LX and a left hinge cap for a 200LX. I was
thinking of getting a Maintenance Kit and splitting it with someone. Anyone
interested? It would be $12 (perhaps plus some shipping) for 1 battery door,
1 backup battery tray, 4 rubber feet, 2 hinge caps, 1 IR cover, 1 name
plate, and 2 torx screws. Email me off-list.

Bob

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> Hi
>
> HP Sweden had no seriecable to the LX, they wanted to send for
> one in US for 100 dollars!
>
> Luckily I found one at a private dealer of HP things. He took
> 25 dollars.
>
> Seems like spareparts soon will be hard to get?
>
> Lars

The cable is fairly easy to build, if you are handy, both Digi-Key and
Mouser sell the 2mm female end along with pins. Mouser has no minimum
order. www.mouser.com or www.digikey.com. One thing I am having trouble
finding is the screws. Anyone know of a source? I think the battery
cover and the backup battery cover will be impossible to find.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:11:20 -0600
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Hi Everyone

I just recently obtained a copy of ACT. I had never heard of it before
and am wondering who wrote it and how to use it. It looks like
a contact manager, is that what it is? Are there other contact managers
written for the LX? Thanks.

John

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Date:         Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:23:07 -0600
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I need the whole kit. Can you help me with a part number, 800
number and/ or web link? Thanks very much.

Regards,
Tom Salwasser

>
> HP Parts Direct still has the Maintenance Kit, but it is "in
short supply."
> I need a IR cover for my 95LX and a left hinge cap for a
200LX. I was
> thinking of getting a Maintenance Kit and splitting it with
someone.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:14:21 -0700
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Part F1216-60998, Phone 1-800-227-8164, URL: https://partsdirect.hp.com

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I need the whole kit. Can you help me with a part number, 800
number and/ or web link? Thanks very much.

Regards,
Tom Salwasser

>
> HP Parts Direct still has the Maintenance Kit, but it is "in
short supply."
> I need a IR cover for my 95LX and a left hinge cap for a
200LX. I was
> thinking of getting a Maintenance Kit and splitting it with
someone.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:28:22 -0700
Reply-To:     Bob Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM>
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Hello All,

Had a HDD die on my OB430. Replaced it with a Viper340,
formatted just fine, sys'd it, copied all the backup files
to it and it boots from Drive C now just fine.

Problem is in the COM port assignments. On boot up I press
ALT then F2 for COM port assignments. I choose C so that my
PCMCIA port will be COM2. But instead of taking that
keyboard input, the OB is reading my keypress of C as the
boot option to boot from drive C even though it's on the
Port Assignment screen.

If I got back and check, it indeed held my choice of C in
the port assignments, but no program or utility is finding
any COM2 on my system.

I only run DOS on my OB430, there is no Win3x loaded.
Any ideas, suggestions?

Bob
..........................................................
 Bob Christopher  Littleton, Colorado USA  bob@palmtop.com
 . HP200LX Palmtop .Submini Cameras. Vintage Mechanicals .

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Date:         Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:11:04 -0500
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Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:41:11 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

  I have an ISA slot PCMCIA reader to go to a good home. $3.50 ships
  USPS Priority to US destinations. First responce gets it!

  Cheers...AJKind

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Date:         Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:32:33 +0000
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Robert K. Meyer wrote:
> Do any of you hams have a favorite code text reader/practice
> program for the LX?

I've been wanting to relearn the code and in preparation I
picked up a couple of morse code programs (listed below).
I haven't actually used any of them so I can't say which is best
or will do what you want.

Super Morse ... SM416
Morse Code Trainer ... MC12
Morse Practice Program ... Mpp110

Cheers... Russ   N6EGJ

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Date:         Sat, 1 Dec 2001 00:26:05 +0000
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> Hi Everyone
>
> I just recently obtained a copy of ACT. I had never heard of it before
> and am wondering who wrote it and how to use it. It looks like
> a contact manager, is that what it is? Are there other contact managers
> written for the LX? Thanks.

It was/is a contact manager.  I believe Symantec took it over and I
THINK but am not sure that the hp available version was not y2k
compliant????

It was very popular for a while as I recall.  Never used it and never
even saw a copy.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Nov 2001 20:11:46 -0500
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Whoever the guy was who started Act! started a company called Saleslogix,
who makes more complicated corporate sales software. Saleslogix bought Act!
a year or two ago from Symantec. Saleslogix now calls themselves Interact
Commerce Corporation. Act! is still supported by them I believe, but ACT!
2000 was the last release.

I think they have been bought again by The Sage Group.

>>I believe Symantec took it over<<

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Date:         Sat, 1 Dec 2001 02:31:18 +0000
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Tony Hutchins improved PDU once more by merging the pdu.scr and
pdu_err.scr script into the single script pdu.scr. He also
simplified the setup and added new features. Tony, many thanks!

Version 2.5  -Improvements by Tony Hutchins:
(01-DEC-01)  -Removed dependence on directories in the setup
             -Allow optional usage of ROBOT.CFG
             -Message ref. number can be recorded for sent SMS
             -More than one SMS box allowed

Download from:

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Date:         Fri, 30 Nov 2001 20:58:06 -0500
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> What is the parameter for the driver to disable this switch?

Below is an excerpt from the documentation for Mack's speed driver:

      /B - kills the "MAIN BATTERY LOW" message
      /U - kills the "BKUP BATTERY LOW" message
      /C - kills the "CARD BATTERY LOW" message
      /E - kills the "*BATTERY ERROR*" message
      /V - kills the "MAIN BATT VERY LOW" message
      /M - kills the charging related messages
      /N   - sets constant full rate charging with no time out
      /N-  - same as above except start off with batteries not charging
      /K   - installs a 64 key keyboard buffer
      /L   - turns on backlighting control
      /L?? - selects the backlighting hotkey where ?? should be
             replaced with a 2 digit hex code
      /P   - makes sure the serial port stays powered off

 Steve Carder <steve@carderfamily.net>
 PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:27:26 -0500
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Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:27:30 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

  Card is spoken for, Thank You!

  Cheers...AJKind


06h16m26s ago ...
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Al Kind wrote:

> Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:41:11 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hi All:
>
>   I have an ISA slot PCMCIA reader to go to a good home. $3.50 ships
>   USPS Priority to US destinations. First responce gets it!
>
>   Cheers...AJKind
>
> --
> * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
> * Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**
>
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Date:         Fri, 30 Nov 2001 23:32:04 -0500
Reply-To:     "Don E. Weatherly" <weather@EXIS.NET>
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For sale as a package only:

- HP200LX, 32MB, Single Speed.   (It's one of my backups, so it's in like
new condition.)
- AC adapter.
- Serial cable.
- Case.
- Light.

I'm willing to sell the entire package for $510.00 including shipping (only
in the US).

If you are interested, please contact me OFF the mail list at weather@exis.net.

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